Barack Obama Flees, Bibi Netanyahu Leads

Nature abhors a vacuum, so does power. As Barack Obama fails daily, Binyamin Netanyahu has risen to the challenge of leadership.

Last Thursday and yesterday Barack Obama attempted to force Israel into a negotiating posture which amounts to national suicide. As he did when he ordered an attack on Libya then flew to Rio, Barack Obama dropped his bombs on Israel then flew off to a European vacation. As he did when Bill Clinton came to the White House, Barack Obama waved good-bye and surrendered the floor to Bibi Netanyahu.

We know what European leaders will say and do while Obama visits because we have seen it before – they will pump up his ego with all sorts of public spectacles while privately they mock him. In Great Britain we learn today that the British police have codenamed Obama “Chalaque”. That codename is a Punjabi word which “is sometimes used when we want to denigrate someone who we think is too clever for their own good.

Chalaque indeed. What boobery is it that challenges someone like Binyamin Netanyahu and then abandons the stage? Tonight Netanyahu will speak with the very group that Obama spoke to yesterday. Tomorrow, Netanyahu will address a joint session of Congress. It is doubtful, despite the polite and warm words that will be utilized at both venues, that Netanyahu will rescind the sharp rebuke he dealt Obama last week.

Some in the hausfrau left applaud Obama’s flog and flee tactic as some sort of brilliant move. They applaud as some sort of three dimensional chess move Obama’s odd behavior. Obama knob polisher Steve Clemons is cited as somehow on to hidden wisdom when he wrote, “I get Barack “Rocky Balboa” Obama now He’s letting Netanyahu kick crap out of him round after round & wearing Bibi down. Obama stays in ring.” Somehow these rarely traveled backyard foreign policy experts do not understand the reaction against Obama’s words is, according to Gallup overwhelming and bipartisan because support for Israel in the United States has almost never been stronger and is trending towards Israel even more so:” Barack Obama and his Big Media allies think they can fool Americans, but as of a month ago at least 63% say “stick with Israel” not “stick it to Israel.”

It is difficult to discern what the Obama apologists are defending. On the one hand some of them say that Obama said nothing unusual. On the other hand they write that Obama has leveled a masterstroke of foreign policy. The knee-pads clad Peter Beinart rejoiced in the masterstroke contingent of Obama worshipers. Beinart wrote a near incomprehensible essay extolling Obama’s genius which declaredIn his Mideast speech, President Obama rejected Bush’s blind allegiance to Israel and put himself squarely on the side of human rights.”

On the side of human rights? Tell that to gay people and women Petey.

Obama defenders really want to have it both ways. They say Obama said nothing new but at the same time it was a brilliant and bold speech and realignment of American policy. Which is it? Even the JournoListers are perplexed and trying to figure out what Obama means or intends to do:

“The tension here is that while Obama advanced the new framework out of “urgency” — and while perhaps, in the medium term, that will be borne out — there’s no accompanying action, no plan or institutional move to restart the peace process and make it real.”

The New York Times is confused too by the foolish flood of words from Mr. Footloose and fancy free:

“WATCHING President Obama deal with the cascading uprisings in the Middle East this year has been a little like watching the Army Corps of Engineers try to stay one city ahead of the Mississippi River floodwaters. Every week, it seems, has brought a new decision: [snip]

The contradictory approaches have startled some of America’s allies. [snip]

Now, as Mr. Obama heads to Europe, the question is: Which American president are they dealing with? The hard-headed pragmatist who bombed Benghazi to prevent a massacre and then violated Pakistan’s sovereignty to knock off Osama bin Laden? Or the former law professor who has now promised 400 million people — among them dissidents in Bahrain and Iran who say they have been abandoned — that “if you take the risks that reform entails, you will have the full support of the United States”?

This is only part of a doctrine,” said Vali Nasr, who left the State Department a month ago after working with the late Richard Holbrooke on Afghanistan and Pakistan. “It explains the ideal, but he has to couple it with an implementation. [snip]

Mr. Obama’s bet, it appears, is that half a doctrine is all he needs right now. It is a moment when American policy needs coherence, even as Mr. Obama insists that a consistent set of tactics is impossible. [snip]

Still, comparing the Arab uprisings to the American Revolution or the civil rights movement is not without risk.

Does anyone know what is going on?

We do know that in 2008 Barack Obama flim-flamed Jewish voters and Israel supporters when he went before the same group, AIPAC, and stated that Jerusalem must remain undivided and in safe Israeli control.

We also know that Barack Obama, because of the logic of his statements, demands that Israel be cut in half. By demanding that “The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state” Obama was in effect saying that Israel could not be a contiguous state – it would have to be dismembered If Gaza and the West Bank are made “contiguous” it would require a territorial link that would chop Israel in half. Israel would have to be dismembered.

Netanyahu, to Obama directly, stated the obvious:

“”For there to be peace, the Palestinians will have to accept some basic realities. The first is that while Israel is prepared to make generous compromises for peace, it cannot go back to the 1967 lines,” he said, as Obama gazed intently with a hand under his chin. “It’s not going to happen. Everybody knows it’s not going to happen. And I think it’s time to tell the Palestinians forthrightly it’s not going to happen.

A number of lawmakers have echoed those concerns, including Reps. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) – who warned that the 1967 borders “were were simply not defensible” – and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.), who said the move would threaten Israel’s security. [snip]

Another critic, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), has promised to introduce a resolution rejecting Obama’s position on Israel’s border lines.

“This is not only ridiculous, but dangerous,” Hatch said this week.”

“Ridiculous” and “dangerous” are good words to describe what is happening in the world while Barack Obama occupies the White House and Air Force One.

Saudi Arabia, disgusted with Obama’s behavior during the Egypt crisis is now looking for new strategic partners, including China. Pakistan too is running away from the United States.Pakistan has asked China to build a naval base at its south-western port of Gwadar and expects the Chinese navy to maintain a regular presence there, a plan likely to alarm both India and the US.” The Pakistani defense minister referred to “our Chinese brothers” when he confirmed the very provocative move of a naval base near India.

Not only is this an audacious move by China, a port far from Chinese shores, it is a direct challenge to India – nuclear armed India. Obama’s response: proceed with the European vacation.

A well armed terrorist attack against a major Pakistani naval air base in the center of Karachi? No reason to worry, it’s time to vacation. Over one hundred dead from tornadoes in a state that he did not win in 2008 and will not win in 2012? Devastation as far as the eye can see? Time to vacation and drive the car into the ditch, again.

While Barack Obama travels and pubs it up, Bibi Netanyahu is fighting the good fight for the people of Israel. Where’s our Bibi? All we have is a Bobo.

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290 thoughts on “Barack Obama Flees, Bibi Netanyahu Leads

  1. Indeed, we have more like a big BooBoo, than a leader like BiBi. What a freakin’ mistake BØ is.

  2. Another good article. Thanks for mentioning the “continguous” line from Øbama’s speech. I questioned that in the comments here the other day, but no one responded to my comment.

    Also, I am glad that you mentioned the fact that China is building the naval base in Pakistan, near India. China is playing with fire, and I am hoping that they get burned.

  3. The Muslim states never fail to disappoint me with their hypocrisy. Moving towards China is just another example.

  4. admin, yes, Pakistan is out whoring herself to China and trying to make US jealous. India is worried but I would not worry about its nukes. One thing is sure, Chinese will be ruthless to Pakistan but I guess Pakistan does not care — hey, they are hoarding terrorists and their military openly conducts terrorist attacks. What can be worse than that?

  5. As for “human rights”, please don’t forget that besides women and gays, there are the Christians, and other non-Muslim religions that suffer from abuse of their human rights in these Muslim dominated countries.

  6. nomobama, Chinese have the upper hand (over India).. They are ruthless and in no way as gullible as India.

  7. I agree nomobama
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    nomobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
    SHV
    May 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
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    I don’t know, but generalizing about all Christian “fundamentalist” over one website that you visited seems a bit unfair. I guarantee you that you are wrong with that sentence that you made. Perhaps some Christians are anti-Jew, but that sentence kind of pissed me off a little bit when I read it, and I am not a Christian fundamentalist either.

  8. pm317
    May 23rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
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    I am hoping that India is coming of age as far as its foreign policy is concerned. I believe that India is becoming more savy with their dealings. I agree that the Chinese are ruthless. The massacre in Tianmen Square will forever lead me to believe this.

  9. gonzotx
    May 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
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    I don’t get the distrust sometimes. America, an arguably Christian country depending on who you talk to, props Israel up for 60 years, and yet there are those who doubt our sincerity and committment. If we were not Christian, I think we would not have done this for Israel.

    Understandably, with Øbama’s recent speech on the Palestinians, I can see why some Jews and their supporters will become concerned, as I am, but Øbama is not typical (and not Christian as far as I am concerned).

  10. nomobama,

    my friend in India who is very smart paints a bleak picture about China wrt India and geographically India is at a huge disadvantage and with neighbors like Pakistan..

  11. pm317
    May 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    I can only hope that India meets any challenges from the commies in China.

  12. The American Civil Liberties Union said the court had “done the right thing” by addressing the “egregious and extreme overcrowding in California’s prisons.”

    David Fathi, director of the ACLU national prison project, said “reducing the number of people in prison not only would save the state taxpayers half a billion annually

    ==================

    It might also make room to keep the really dangerous, violent convicts off the streets longer, instead of letting them out on parole to attack other victims.

  13. It might also make room to keep the really dangerous, violent convicts off the streets longer, instead of letting them out on parole to attack other victims.
    ***

    Don’t bet on it

  14. The religious fundamentalists who are the BFFs of Israel have no love for Jews. I clicked on a Christian Fundamentalist “Bible Study” site

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    If you want to look wider, there might be a chain of clues starting with elites’ comments on Palin’s ‘blood libel.’ Those who didn’t accuse her of ignorance accused her of knowing too much about the term, having learned it from fundamentalist Christian churches who ‘identified’ with the ‘persecuted Chosen People’ of the OT. If any of those critics bothered to give cites, those cites might lead to some fundamentalist Christian denominations that really are BFF to Israel.

  15. Islamists have threatened to exterminate the Jews from Israel and do the same to the Christians in America. Christians have much in common with the Jews.

  16. nomobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
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    I consider myself a Christian, but went to a majority Jewish public HS and dated a Jewish guy for 6 years. I grew up after WW2 and felt such a connection to the Jewish people but couldn’t bring myself to let go of Jesus as the Son of God. I use to day dream as a child that I either was hunting Nazi’s (which I wanted to do so badly), or I was a reincarnated from a Jewish girl that lost her life in WW2. Strange I know, but growing up when I did and hearing of the Holocaust, and my father fighting the Nazi’s under Patton…well you know the fertile mind.

    But I still feel a strong connection, always will.

  17. Good post Admin.

    Yes, our country is a joke with the jester running the country.

    Pretty much any adult with half a brain could outshine the BooInOffice.

    Letting Clinton, then Bibi talk to the country while SirBoob has more important social things to do, like attend a party or go one another vacation…what a moron Ubama is.

    When will the voters take over and get all these darn idiots out of office instead of listening to the stupidos that fill the airwaves?

  18. Here we go again…

    On Hannity, Dick MorrisTheHillaryHater just said he met with Trump, and that Trump didn’t sound like a ‘non-candidate’ to him. Hannity got a little excited, and Morris said Trump asked him a lot of questions about the race and how he felt the candidates running couldn’t beat Obama.

  19. I think I remember who it was, too. Either mj or the blogger who passed away (basement angel).

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    In any case, wasn’t it said long before Lorac arrived?

  20. I went and rewound the story Dick Morris said about Trump.
    He met with Trump today.

    I wonder if Trump is trying to see if the Rethug talking heads would support him instead of attack him IF he got into the race?

  21. America, an arguably Christian country depending on who you talk to, props Israel up for 60 years, and yet there are those who doubt our sincerity and committment. If we were not Christian, I think we would not have done this for Israel.

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    As a native of the Bible Belt, I agree that supporting Israel is a fundamentalist Christian thing (yes, somewhat identifying with the ‘persecuted Chosen People’ of the OT). However that doesn’t mean the whole of the US is committed to the same view; the BB fundamentalists are a minority nationwide.

    Between the BB, the real US Jews, and the people who saw the movie Exodus, there is probably a majority sentiment for supporting the existence of Israel in general. But not necessarily supporting all Israel’s current policies.

  22. Islamists have threatened to exterminate the Jews from Israel and do the same to the Christians in America. Christians have much in common with the Jews.

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    Well, apparently they share that undistributed middle. 😉

  23. Thanks, admin- for posting a follow up to the Bibi v Obama tune -up. US news broadcasts are soft peddling Obama’s demands for Israel redefining it’s borders back to the 1967 boundary lines.

    Not so with the news coming from Israel. It appears Israel has drawn a line in the sand if Obama continues his pompous pronouncements as if he is an almighty King issuing dictates ordering Israel’s boundaries redefined.

    Obama Demands Israeli Retreat to 1949 Armistice Lines

    by Eitam Abadi

    In a landmark speech regarding the changes sweeping the Middle East, United States President Barack Obama called for Israel to withdraw to the 1949 armistice lines in order to surrender all lands liberated from Jordan during the 1967 Six-Day War to the Western-backed Palestinian Authority.

    In a wide-ranging address at the State Department on Thursday, Obama devoted considerable attention to pushing for an Israeli retreat, which he called “more urgent than ever.”

    “We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps,” he declared. “So that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”

    Obama further criticized Jewish building in Israel’s heartland and called for a “full and phased withdrawal” of Israeli forces to be coordinated with the PA during a transition period with a clear time table.

    “These principles provide a foundation for negotiations,” he stated.

    Obama’s comments codify long-standing American foreign policy in a more transparent, explicit and detailed format than his predecessors offered. US President George W. Bush was the first to officially call for a “Palestinian state” and later referred to “mutually agreed changes” to the 1949 armistice lines as its basis in a 2004 letter to then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

    Opposition leader Tzipi Livni (Kadima) responded to Obama’s speech by maintaining her loyalty to Washington and a policy of opposition to the Netanyahu government.

    Saying Obama’s plan was “clearly in Israel’s interests,” while at the same time blaming Netanyahu for threatening Jerusalem’s relationship with the US, Livni departed from her own party’s established criteria for peace in favor of Obama’s.

    Member of Knesset Otniel Schneller (Kadima) challenged Livni by calling on his faction head to display maturity and act responsibly by making a strong stand and backing Netanyahu on issues of foreign policy in light of Obama’s speech.

    “Obama’s speech has placed before Israeli society and its representatives the challenge of unity and national agreement. The political disagreements and aspiration of the opposition parties should not overpower their responsibility for the future of the state,” Schneller asserted.

    “On the level of diplomatic policy, even Kadima believes in the same principles presented by the prime minister, which constitute the basis for a diplomatic program that the previous government under [Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni tried to advance,” he added.

    “It would be appropriate if during the prime minister’s meeting with President Obama, everyone knew that the prime minister has no opposition when it comes to realizing his diplomatic initiative. We should expect mature leadership from the heads of all of the Zionist parties on the existential questions facing Israel and its strategic interests,” Schneller said.

    Shevah Stern, chairman of the ruling Likud party’s branches in Judea and Samaria, expressed his hope Thursday night that Netanyahu will know how to stand firmly opposite President Obama and faithfully present Israel’s interests when they meet on Friday in Washington.

    Stern added that he did not envy Netanyahu in his difficult mission.

    Member of Knesset Zevulun Orlev (Jewish Home) went even further by calling on the prime minister to consider cancelling his scheduled meeting with Obama, calling it “unnecessary.”

    Orlev said that Obama’s policy speech does not leave a chance for dialogue because it contradicts Israel’s national consensus.

    He added that Israel will have no choice but to enter a crisis with the American president.

    Obama’s words, which most analysts have understood to indicate a renewed wave of US pressure for Israeli concessions, come at a time when the PA leadership is threatening to go to the United Nations General Assembly for a unilateral declaration of statehood in Israel’s Samaria and Judea regions.

    http://www.indynewsisrael.com/obama-demands-israeli-retreat-to-1949-armistice-lines

  24. turndownobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
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    I’m not too sure about that. The admin’s post mentions a poll that shows increased support for Israel, something like 63% of respondents. That is just one poll, so I would like to see more on these sentiments.

  25. turndownobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
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    I don’t know how long Lorac has posted here.

  26. On a quick look, the earliest result for Googling “site:hillaryis44.org lorac” is Oct 29, 2010

    I think such google results are often not complete, I wish I knew how to make sure of getting all mentions.

  27. God ya all it was NOT lorac! It was not one but two posters that continue to post there days. Let it go

  28. I am looking on the link that the admin provided for Netanyahu’s speech, but all I see is that dufus Harry Reid which I believe was recorded yesterday. Anyone else have a better link?

  29. Thanks Tim. I think that I will turn the weasel down since I can’t stand Reid. I’ll have to keep checking back to see when Bibi is on.

  30. nomobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    LOL, me as well, I have the weasel on mute, I’ll turn the volume back up once Bibi comes on, I think he’s on next. I haven’t looked at the schedule yet, but I know Bibi is speaking sometime today.

  31. God ya all it was NOT lorac! It was not one but two posters that continue to post there days. Let it go

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    Yes, all that matters is that it was not Lorac. Now maybe Mrs. Smith will stop accusing Lorac of saying it.

  32. c-span is showing Tim Pawlenty’s presidential announcement. He was introduced by his wife and they coordinated his tie to her dress. I guess this was to show that his wife if fully on board for his campaign.

  33. The admin’s post mentions a poll that shows increased support for Israel, something like 63% of respondents.

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    I couldn’t find that. But I’d expect the support to be even higher, if it were just the very general question like ‘Do you support Israel?’ or something. But when it came to various specific issues, like some specific pieces of disputed land, then I’d expect less support.

  34. The admin’s post mentions a poll that shows increased support for Israel, something like 63% of respondents.

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    I couldn’t find that. But I’d expect the support to be even higher, if it were just the very general question like ‘Do you support Israel?’ or something. But when it came to various specific issues, like some specific pieces of disputed land, then I’d expect less support.

  35. Why do people like Pawlenty even think they can win? They are not interesting, they don’t have ideas, nothing going for them.

  36. turndownobama
    May 23rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
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    The end of the 5th paragraph.

  37. pm317

    Why do people like Pawlenty even think they can win? They are not interesting, they don’t have ideas, nothing going for them.
    ——–

    I have no clue.

    To me it’s if someone isn’t hated, they are therefore okay?

  38. Obnoxious obots.

    Pawlenty is repeating all the repub postions on everything – nothing new that I heard, so I changed the channel, but he is still talking.

  39. My gut feeling is Trump wants very badly (like us) Obummer defeated but he (like us) is not happy with the Repub choices. Yeah, that Pawlenty will put up a fight against the Chicago thuggery. This may be another reason why they all want Christie to run — he seems brash and fearless.

  40. BigCatLover
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Trump will be crucified if he tries to get back into the race.
    ———-
    That’s nothing new.

    They are digging up dirt on Cristy and he isn’t even running.

    They crucified Hillary and Sarah, anyone that isn’t a timid milktoast that can’t win.

  41. Why do people like Pawlenty even think they can win? They are not interesting, they don’t have ideas, nothing going for them.

    +++++

    I sometimes suspect there’s something about being ASKED whether you’re running, that drives men mad. They suddenly are dazzled with the idea that it might be possible. All common sense disappears….

  42. Look at this joker — he who could not win on his own, thinks he can take the back door to the WH after being a nominal VP..

    Biden tells donors: Keep me in mind for 2016

    Vice President Joe Biden surprised a gathering of donors in Cincinnati last week when he floated the prospect of his succeeding President Barack Obama in the White House.

    Biden, who started in the Senate young and would be just 70 in 2012, raised the possibility unprompted during a wide-ranging conversation at the May 19 dinner with major Democratic Party donors, a source in the room said.

  43. I no longer believe Trump can withstand a crucifying by the repubs and the media after he backed out before. I would be interested if he did get back in but I’m surprised that the was surprised that they went after him so hard the first time.

  44. Our Girl on the road again:

    4:50 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with the staff and families of Embassy London, in London, United Kingdom.

    5:30 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with UK Foreign Minister William Hague, in London, United Kingdom.

    6:30 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton holds a joint press availability with UK Foreign Minister Hague, in London, United Kingdom.

    7:10 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with UK Foreign Minister Hague, in London, United Kingdom

  45. Pawlenty wants to cut back SS and raise the age, “Straight talk the voters want to hear”.
    —-
    Hell no, keep your mitts off Social Security.

    I like Trump’s idea, charge other countries for our services, putting money back in our country, jobs back so seniors can keep the SS they paid into.

  46. pm317
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Look at this joker — he who could not win on his own, thinks he can take the back door to the WH after being a nominal VP..

    Biden tells donors: Keep me in mind for 2016

    ————-
    Maybe Biden is the ‘Icebreaker’. 😆

  47. BigCatLover
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I no longer believe Trump can withstand a crucifying by the repubs and the media after he backed out before. I would be interested if he did get back in but I’m surprised that the was surprised that they went after him so hard the first time.
    ———
    I can’t remember where I heard it, but I think it was on the video I posted on the last thread (Fox and Friends today) where Trump said the ribbing was expected and not why he backed out.

    Maybe he met with Dick Morris today to find out if he had any support from the party boyz or not. He did have the tea party support. Many independents like him too.

    Funny, I think Hannity likes him too.

  48. why is there a man on the stage with Bibi? I think that’s one of the security guards, but he’s on the stage just a few feet away, I don’t think I saw this even with Waffles. Maybe Bibi is getting lots of threats, the security people are right there on the stage just a few feet away.

  49. BigCatLover
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Shadowfax
    Has Trump been on Greta yet?
    ———-
    Not yet, it was one of the first things she mentioned at the top of her show……….

  50. Oh my God, BIBI is talking about the flooding in MO during his AIPAC speech and the fraud is over in Ireland trying to convince the world he is a black Irish

  51. Why did Trump say he could beat Obama, but not Obama, the repubs and the media too. I think he was surprised at the vehemenant way they went after him. It will be worse if he tries to get back in, but if he can withstand it, I say great.

  52. gonzotx
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    How about the government keeps their hands off SS and pays back what it has stolen!
    ——-
    Yup to that!

  53. Now that’s a leader and he just stuck it to the fraud again by showing his compassion for our nation while Nero fiddle in Dublin

  54. my 2 cents, Trump’s business empire was threatened — 2 friday’s ago, the CNBC interview revealed just how much the NYT was willing to lie, he probably didnt except those attacks against his biz to be that ruthless, maybe he thinks he can lay low for a while, figure out how and who is going after his businesses, and then at the very least fight back harder, if he runs or not.

  55. Bibi is the man the fraud will NEVER be

    You hear that you incontinent fool with the urine running wildly down your leg?

    I hope you shit on yourself

  56. “fraud is over in Ireland trying to convince the world he is a black Irish”

    LOL, this is just making me laugh out loud so much! 🙂 thanks for the laugh, that was funny!

  57. They all think they ran Trump out of the race. If he gets back in, they will attack even harder to try to run him out for good. If it were me, I’d fight back, but I don’t have as much to lose as he does.

  58. 50 billion dollars in Israeli investment in the US in the past decade. That is substantial for a small country.

  59. I no longer believe Trump can withstand a crucifying by the repubs and the media after he backed out before.

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    What was Ross Perot’s thinking in ‘quitting’ the race then coming back in at the last minute? Get out of the line of fire for a while to save money?

  60. jobs back so seniors can keep the SS they paid into.

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    That sounds like what Hillary said a couple of years ago. Nothing wrong with SS itself, just need the overall economy and budget to do better so what’s been borrowed from SS can be paid back.

  61. He is right about not blaming Israel for the mideast region’s problems, but it’s obvious that change does not necessarily mean positives for Israel. Egypt has shown this. Their population wants change, and government corruption to stop, but also seems to blame Israel for their problems, too. Israel may want to see democratic neighbors, but that does not necessarily equate with better security.

  62. He’s now hitting back on the 1967 borders and promises he will discuss this further tomorrow when he addresses Congress.

  63. tim
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
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    Thanks. I was wondering if it was developed by Israel or if the US gave it to Israel.

  64. Bibi was good , albeit several times had to stop as protestors were removed. Made it clear once again no return to 67 boders. More detail to come tomorrow . No question Bibi detests Obama and loves Joe Lieberman:)

  65. Yup, Bibi speaking to Congress tomorrow 11am C-Span.

    Thanks for putting up the link for us Tim-

  66. With Bibi there was no (Kerry-like) deer in the headlights look when the heckler was removed. He used the pause to accept applause. 🙂

  67. There was no way Obama could have stood by in the WH knowing Bibi was on LIVE tonight giving a speech solidifying his resolve keeping the borders as is- Obama has left Ireland because of the ash taking to the atmosphere may prevent air traffic over London…

  68. Yes…he made them appear even more foolish…the big secuirty guy standing to the left of him looked very serious..

  69. #
    jbstonesfan
    May 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Yes…he made them appear even more foolish…the big secuirty guy standing to the left of him looked very serious..
    _________________

    Bibi mentioned he was going to announce a plan for Peace tomorrow in front of Congress.

  70. the big secuirty guy standing to the left of him looked very serious..
    ________________

    I think there were one on either side of him- They looked like Israelis, his own security detail maybe.

  71. wbboei-

    you were right about everything you said last night. I’m unplugging my phone tonight, so no answer. Full day tomorrow- ck in tomorrow. cheers!

  72. I was just told on another thread that I was being discussed lol. Thanks for the support guys. Yes, someone was just trying very transparently to take the attention off of herself. Interesting that it was in the context of a “discussion ” on ethics lol

  73. lorac,

    Glad to see you back! We need as much support of logic (and ethics) as we can get. 😉

  74. UK TElegraph:

    There was tepid applause and a couple of isolated boos from the crowd of almost 10,000 members of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, better known as Aipac, the premier and most hardline mainstream group in the powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States.
    The reception was one of intense scepticism. A vast majority of delegates felt that Mr Obama had a need to explain himself after his comments that a Middle East peace deal should be based on Israel’s 1967 border incorporating agreed land swaps with the Palestinians.
    But if they thought that the American president was going to take back his words in Thursday’s speech at the State Department’s Foggy Bottom headquarters, then they were sorely mistaken.
    Wagging his finger repeatedly, Mr Obama adopted the manner of a schoolmaster frustrated that his pupils were too dim or inattentive to pay attention to what he had said.
    Rather than even acknowledge the artlessness of his 1967 comments, or the fact that he had not prepared the Israeli Government for what he was about to say, his tone was of the “I’m sorry you feel that way” variety of non-apology.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8529758/Barack-Obamas-big-Middle-East-gamble.html

  75. Which American president are they dealing with? The hard-headed pragmatist who bombed Benghazi to prevent a massacre and then violated Pakistan’s sovereignty to knock off Osama bin Laden? Or the former law professor who has now promised 400 million people — among them dissidents in Bahrain and Iran who say they have been abandoned — that “if you take the risks that reform entails, you will have the full support of the United States”
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    Bullshit. Obama is not and never has been a hard headed pragmatist. He is a dithering Jarret controlled goof ball. When the going gets tough he hides and Hillary, Gates and Panetta (I damned near said Lou Pinella the former Mariners coach). Those are the hard headed pragmatists who save the country while the New York Times purposely promotes a lie that he was the one who made the decision. In the final analysis the confusion affected by the New York Times is simply a rhetorical ploy to cover up who he is. There is nothing confusing about it.

    There is only one Obama. The former law professor and major league Jarret controlled goof ball. The hard headed pragmatist is Hillary, Gates and Panetta–I almost said the old Mariners coach Lou Pinaella. When the going gets tough Obama dithers and these people step up to the plate. So there is no reason to be confused here. The New York Times has created a false dichotomy to promote a false narrative that he had lead. The only time Obama leads is when the vacation jet hits the runway.

  76. Thanks, turndown. 🙂 I didn’t go anywhere – busy day. I went shopping at some stores after work – I hate shopping lol Then you have to lug it all into the house, then put it all away. Now it’s almost 11 pm already. 🙁

  77. What do you mean about another thread, turndown? Did I say something about another thread? (I’m tired lol maybe I forgot)

  78. Boner, LOL, that is how I read it in my head when I see his name. Poor guy.
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    “Honi soit qui mal y pense’ You tempt me to tell tales out of school. Suffice it to say your metaphor is apt.

  79. ABM90
    May 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
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    Thank you ABM 90 for reminding us what a wonderful leader Hillary is, and how she is out there defending our country every day of the week.

  80. Shadow, I can’t figure out what Trump’s up to. I don’t know a lot about him, so I don’t know if this is just the way he is – ie, is he playing games, or does his money make him so totally free, that he can just do things however he wants…? I just wish he would have followed through on all he was saying he was going to pursue Obama about (grades, etc)….

  81. lorac

    I have no idea what is the real plan of Trump either.
    Part of me would like him to run, and straighten out our economy and kick Barry out of the Oval. I don’t think anyone else can that we have seen so far.

    I do think Trump is more independent because of his wealth and business connections, but his meeting with Dick Morris today was a pretty big thing in my book.
    Trump says he is afraid those running can’t beat obama, and if that is true in his mind, maybe he is willing to take the crap if he is the only one that has the coconuts to take on the O’Chicago machine.

    Either way, I am glad he is thinking of it, speaking out like he said he would, and it is much better than him just being quiet and fading to black.

    Obama needs someone to call him out besides just Sarah and PUMAs, so I hope Trump keeps it up.

  82. Yes, I didn’t understand why he felt he had to decide by such an early date in the first place. Most people don’t pay attention until just before the election, and he certainly doesn’t need to jump in early to get money. Maybe the decision date was imposed by his tv station – maybe he decided he had to say he wasn’t running, to keep his show in place. Maybe it was really too early for him to know if he wanted to run, or needed to. Then it gives him more time while the show is in its “off season” to get a better feel of the land…?

  83. Obama’s Economic Stimulus Went To Tax Delinquents

    WASHINGTON — Thousands of companies that cashed in on President Obama’s economic stimulus package owed the government millions in unpaid taxes, congressional investigators have found.

    The Government Accountability Office, in a report being released Tuesday, said at least 3,700 government contractors and nonprofit organizations that received more than $24 billion from the stimulus effort owed $757 million in back taxes as of Sept. 30, 2009, the end of the budget year.

    The report said the tax delinquents accounted for nearly 6 percent of the 63,000 contractors and grantees examined, and it cautioned that the real number might be higher because the known tax debt does not measure such factors as income underreporting.

    Among the examples was an engineering firm that received a $100,000 stimulus act contract but owed $6 million in taxes. The IRS called it “an extreme case of noncompliance.” A social services nonprofit that received more than $1 million in stimulus funds owed taxes of $2 million.

    The GAO referred those two cases and 13 others to the Internal Revenue Service, the country’s tax collectors, for further investigation.

    On Tuesday, a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee will hold a hearing on the report.

    Federal law does not prohibit tax delinquents from getting government contracts or grants, though there are provisions that enable the government to withhold payments in some cases. While the federal government requires contractors to present documentation that their taxes are paid, some recipients escaped federal review because the money was disbursed at state or local levels.

    Democratic Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the investigations subcommittee holding the hearing, said it has been known for years that a few federal contractors and grantees do not pay their taxes.

    He said a program to recover money from tax delinquents has been strengthened, and “the executive branch has made it clear” that nonpayment of tax can be grounds for denying a specific contract or barring a contractor from bidding on any contract. He added that the executive branch should “get on with it” and bar “the worst of the tax cheats from the contractor work force.”

    “It is a matter of basic fairness that those who take government money should be required to pay their taxes like everyone else,” said Sen. Tom Coburn, the panel’s top Republican. “That such a huge amount of the stimulus money went to known tax cheats should be a wake-up call for Congress.”

    The stimulus package, enacted in February 2009, funneled some $821 billion into the recession-hit economy. Of that, about $275 billion was designated for contracts and grants, of which nearly $200 billion had been paid out as of March 25, 2011.

    The report noted that about 35 percent of the unpaid taxes were for debts incurred before 2003 and that more than half of the apparent violations, $417 million, were from unpaid corporate taxes. Another quarter, $207 million, came from unpaid payroll taxes.

    The most serious documented case was a security firm that owed $9 million, mainly in unpaid payroll taxes from the mid-2000s. IRS records indicated that the company paid other creditors while shirking its tax obligations. The company, which received more than $100,000 in stimulus money, had a history of being uncooperative, missing deadlines and repeatedly filing appeals, according to the records.

    Democratic Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Finance Committee, said every unpaid tax dollar was “added to our deficit or taken from future generations, so I will certainly use the conclusions from this report to look for new ways to ensure everyone pays their fair share.”

    For Republican the report provided another way to criticize Obama’s recovery package. “This shows how fundamentally flawed the failed stimulus has turned out to be when Washington jams through almost a trillion dollars in spending with little scrutiny,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.

    Moira Mack, a spokeswoman for the Office of Management and Budget, which oversees the stimulus program, said her agency last year collected more than $100 million in tax debts and stepped up efforts to prevent tax delinquents from receiving federal contracts.

    “Companies that want federal contracts are now required to certify whether they have a significant tax delinquency and that requirement is deterring tax delinquents from getting federal contracts,” Mack said. “These efforts are consistent with the steps this administration has taken through the Recovery Act to provide an unprecedented level of accountability and transparency on behalf of the American taxpayer

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/23/tax-delinquents-collected-billions-obamas-economic-stimulus-plan-report-shows/#ixzz1NG1XBlSJ

  84. OBAMA’S WAR ON ISRAEL

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on May 23, 2011

    No American Jew who values the existence of the nation of Israel can kid himself any longer. President Obama is against the Jewish state. His speech on Thursday overtly embraces the position of the Palestinians and is designed to force Israel to surrender to their domination.

    How else are we to interpret a demand that Israel return to its 1967 borders and that this be the starting point for further negotiations? The 1967 borders include a waist line across the middle of Israel that is all of twelve miles in length. It can be walked easily in four hours and driven in less than fifteen minutes. A jet would take one minute to overfly it.

    To force Israel into indefensible borders is not a prelude to a solution. It is the prelude to a modern equivalent of the Final Solution – the destruction of Israel and of the seven million Jews who live there.

    Who can pretend that shrinking Israel would appease the Arabs any more than dismembering Czechoslovakia appeased Hitler? The Palestinians, long kept seething with grievances by the United Nations refugee agency, Hamas, and the PA, want the right of return. They demonstrated this just last week as they approached Israel’s borders demanding admission. Short of having their farms and homes back – and driving out the Jews who have lived there for more than sixty years – there is no compromise that they will accept.

    And what is the backdrop for Obama’s embrace of the essential Palestinian demand? It takes place a few weeks after the merger of the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, committing both to the destruction of Israel. This is the entity Obama wants Israel to trust twelve miles from the sea!

    If the last few months of revolutions in the Arab world have demonstrated anything, it is that the Arab street is more concerned with its own economic well being and in getting out from under the despotism of their regimes than about the plight of the Palestinians.

    The consequences for Jewish Democrats of Obama’s remarks are profound. They must each now choose, bluntly and without room for equivocation between their support for Obama and their backing for Israel. It is not Israel or the Republican Party that has forced this choice upon them. It is the President himself whose anti-Israel bias has never been more blatantly on display.

    As President Obama solicits funds from American Jews, let us all remember our family, friends, and compatriots in Israel and honor them by saying no. It is the time for American Jews to choose. Just like it was in 1938.

  85. Steve Clemons is cited as somehow on to hidden wisdom when he wrote, “I get Barack “Rocky Balboa” Obama now He’s letting Netanyahu kick crap out of him round after round & wearing Bibi down. Obama stays in ring.”
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    What a gadfly this asshole Clemmons is. I mean really. One minute he with the Nixon Center, then the Cato Institute, then he is a technical advisor on a film starring Wesley Snipes, then he is over there blogging at DailyKos. He is a case of arresting development as in hey young whippersnapper what do you want to be when you grow up–if you ever do. At the ripe young age of 48 you would think he would know. But evidently not. Quite frankly when he confuses Rocky Balboa with Chicken Little you begin to suspect that he is bi polar. How can he equate running away to Ireland from America’s problems and his own indiscretions while Bibi addresses congress, and worries about America’s problems as well has his own good strategy. Clemmons is the kind of guy who is so lost in the clouds that nobody should take him seriously. I have spent alot of time–alot in a nursing home with my mother listening to people who make no sense to the point that some of it is starting to rub off. But whatever faults these people may have are as nothing compared to what I see in this Clemons.

  86. The true measure of Clemmons’ delusion is the fact that far from staying in the ring and letting his opponent attack him–which is the image Clemmons conjures up, in point of fact Obama instinctively quickly jumps out of the ring, out of the guy and out of the country at the first sign of trouble. and he runs for cover. It is madness to equate Obama with Rocky Balboa, Shaka Zulu or one of the Spartan legion at Thermopylae. Obama is a yellow bellied sap sucker and that is where it starts stops and ends. I think Clemmons could benefit from professional medical help, and possibly valium.

  87. Donald Trump Won’t ‘Rule Out’ Reversing 2012 Presidential Decision (VIDEO)
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    Speaking of madness. He promised to give us a decision and he did. He said he is not running. I do not see how he can reverse that decision. If the polls said no republican could win but he could that could provide a plausible excuse. But how likely is that now that he has thrown in the towel. What made him an attractive candidate to many–including me was the straight talk and the impression that he would not back down. When he backed out of the race he backed down. And at that point the magic is gone, and whenever he says something now people will wonder if he is serious, or will back down under pressure. The precedent is set. He needs to move on.

  88. It is amazing how often wealthy people believe that the rules of society and of human nature do not apply to them. If Trump thinks he can get back in the race and people will believe him, he is whistling dixie.

  89. That fine point is something the Cuban banker is fond of saying. He says the wealthy and the criminal class have much in common, since they both believe that the rules of society do not apply to them.

  90. I woke up to the news that Netanyahu has been busy, and then to this post. admin has been busy too. Harry Reid? Not so much.

    The Dems’ ‘breathtaking’ refusal to pass a budget
    “Let’s see it,” a frustrated Sen. Jeff Sessions said on the Senate floor Monday afternoon. “Let’s bring it forward.” By “it,” Sessions meant a Democratic proposal for a 2012 federal budget. In recent days Sessions, the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, has been asking, pushing, pleading, cajoling and begging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to put forward a Democratic plan. So far, Reid has steadfastly refused. That’s nothing new. The last time the Senate passed a budget was April 29, 2009, which was, if you are counting — and Jeff Sessions is — 755 days ago. Passing a yearly budget for the federal government is a fundamental responsibility of Congress. Lawmakers do not have to spend their time naming post offices or passing health care reform. But they do have to pass a budget. In 2010, neither the House nor the Senate did so. It’s not that members just didn’t get around to it, which would have been scandalous enough. No, Reid and then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi feared that passing a budget would hurt their chances in the November midterm elections. So they did nothing and took a beating at the polls anyway. Now Pelosi is out of the picture. But Reid is still at it. The Republican-controlled House has passed a budget, but Reid will not produce a Democratic spending proposal. And if Reid doesn’t want to pass a budget, then a budget won’t be passed; the majority leader controls what is and what is not considered in the Senate. “There’s no need to have a Democratic budget, in my opinion,” Reid told the Los Angeles Times last week. “It would be foolish for us to do a budget at this stage.” Instead, Reid wants to wait to see if the deficit-reduction meetings led by Vice President Biden bear any fruit. Before that, Reid wanted to wait for the Gang of Six — now nearly defunct — to come up with something. Sessions was appalled when he read Reid’s words. “It was a fundamental statement that they’re playing politics,” Sessions said. “They don’t think it’s politically smart to produce a budget. They’d rather produce nothing and attack Paul Ryan and the Republicans and think they’re going to gain politically by avoiding their fundamental statutory responsibility. It’s pretty breathtaking to me….”
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/05/dems-breathtaking-refusal-pass-budget

  91. This is scary. Pakistan with its new BFF China, I say the US should take out their nukes. I think US should work with China, India, and other countries to see how they can all work together to denuke Pakistan. This is quite serious.

    (via Drudge)

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c7c98ddc-84b1-11e0-afcb-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1NGgQGlEh

    Taliban raid triggers Pakistan shockwave

    By By James Lamont and Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad and Daniel Dombey in Washington

    Published: May 22 2011 21:46 | Last updated: May 23 2011 18:30

    The brazen attack on a Pakistani naval air base has sent shockwaves through the nuclear-armed country, raising concerns about the military’s ability to protect sophisticated weaponry.

    The ease with which six Taliban militants stormed the PNS Mehran base in Karachi, close to the city’s busy commercial airport, and destroyed two newly US-supplied P-3C Orion maritime surveillance aircraft has unnerved Pakistan’s military establishment.

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    The militants held off security forces for more than 16 hours, killed 12 naval personnel and injured 14. Their primary objective appeared to be some of the military’s most sophisticated electronic warfare equipment, as they wiped out Pakistan’s anti-submarine warfare capability in a single stroke.

    Ghazanfar Ali, a former brigadier general, said the Taliban attack would “hurt Pakistan’s reputation as a nuclear weapons state” in the eyes of the international community, by emphasising the country’s vulnerability….

  92. {My comment went into moderation because of multiple links.. Admin, pl. delete it.}

    This is scary. Pakistan with its new BFF China, I say the US should take out their nukes. I think US should work with China, India, and other countries to see how they can all work together to denuke Pakistan. This is quite serious.

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    (via Drudge)

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c7c98ddc-84b1-11e0-afcb-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1NGgQGlEh

    Taliban raid triggers Pakistan shockwave

    By By James Lamont and Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad and Daniel Dombey in Washington

    Published: May 22 2011 21:46 | Last updated: May 23 2011 18:30

    The brazen attack on a Pakistani naval air base has sent shockwaves through the nuclear-armed country, raising concerns about the military’s ability to protect sophisticated weaponry.

    The ease with which six Taliban militants stormed the PNS Mehran base in Karachi, close to the city’s busy commercial airport, and destroyed two newly US-supplied P-3C Orion maritime surveillance aircraft has unnerved Pakistan’s military establishment.

    The militants held off security forces for more than 16 hours, killed 12 naval personnel and injured 14. Their primary objective appeared to be some of the military’s most sophisticated electronic warfare equipment, as they wiped out Pakistan’s anti-submarine warfare capability in a single stroke.

    Ghazanfar Ali, a former brigadier general, said the Taliban attack would “hurt Pakistan’s reputation as a nuclear weapons state” in the eyes of the international community, by emphasising the country’s vulnerability….

  93. Rahm’s testimony could change the complexion of the US landscape if he spills the beans mentioning Obama’s involvement. This trial could be a case and point the by-product of the Blago trial helping America
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    Rahm ready to testify at Blago trial if called

    Mayor Rahm Emanuel changed his tune Monday when asked about the possibility of being called by the defense to testify in the corruption trial of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    Asked last week whether he had been contacted by the Blagojevich defense team about testifying, Emanuel said, “Not to my knowledge.”

    On Monday, the new mayor’s answer was a different one. It was almost as if he was preparing reporters for his appearance in federal court.

    “As you know — as I’ve said before — I’m ready, if asked, to answer questions, as I was in the first trial. . . . In this trial, I’ll answer questions, if asked to,” Emanuel said.

    Emanuel has remained under defense subpoena since last summer’s trial, which ended in a mistrial on 23 out of 24 counts. Emanuel’s name has resurfaced as a possible witness now that it appears that Blagojevich will be putting on a defense, unlike his first trial.

    The former governor’s defense team is expected to begin presenting its case Wednesday.

    Blagojevich’s lawyer said Monday that Emanuel and U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. are “under consideration” to be called as witnesses in the defense case. Attorney Sheldon Sorosky didn’t mention anyone else by name. He made the remarks on his way out of the courthouse Monday.

    Last week, Sorosky would only say people of “some prominence” were under consideration. He also said last week that

    Blagojevich’s own testimony remained in play.

    Emanuel’s conversations with Rod Blagojevich about filling the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama were captured on federal wiretaps. But Emanuel has repeatedly insisted that all he ever offered to Blagojevich was “thanks and appreciation.”

    In an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times before he officially entered the mayor’s race, Emanuel was asked to describe his dealings with Blagojevich — about the Senate seat and the North Side school then-Congressman Rahm Emanuel wanted to build.

    “I provided a list of four credible candidates that the President said could be potential U.S. Senate candidates. . . . When asked, what’s in it for the governor, I’m the one [who] said, ‘All you’re gonna get is thanks and appreciation.’ Then, you also know how the governor then responded to that,” Emanuel said then.

    Pressed on why he was wheeling and dealing about potential Senate candidates, Emanuel said, “That’s a characterization. They’re prosecuting the governor, correct? Am I [being prosecuted]?”

    When it came to negotiations about the school, Emanuel portrayed himself as a victim.

    “I was fighting to get a new high school established — the Chicago Teaching Academy, the first of its kind in the country. . . . I made a pledge and I had secured the resources. . . . The funds weren’t forthcoming and I kept pushing,” he said then.

    “They tried to hold those resources until I helped them with fundraising, which I did not do. Any attempt to extract or get something for them…was also summarily rejected. I rejected both times any overture.”

    Asked whether being on tape or on the witness stand would prove to be embarrassing, Emanuel said, “No. The facts will speak for themselves. Both times, any overture was rejected. … That’s why I have no problem. The public will see those facts.”

    Earlier this month, former Blagojevich aide-turned-government-informant John Wyma testified that Emanuel called him after being chosen to serve as White House chief-of-staff to relay Obama’s support for presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett as Obama’s Senate replacement.

    Wyma also testified about Blagojevich’s alleged attempts to force then-Congressman Emanuel to hold a fund-raiser, or have Emanuel’s wealthy Hollywood agent brother, Ari, hold one, in exchange for releasing state funds to the school in Emanuel’s district. Wyma said Blagojevich’s request made him so uncomfortable he didn’t do it.

    Until he did.

    “At some point did you make a request of Mr. Emanuel for a fund-raiser?” Assistant U.S. Attorney Carrie Hamilton asked.

    “I did,” Wyma said. “Months later … Because the grant issue had been resolved.”

    Blagojevich eventually relented, according to testimony, and released the money to the school.

    “I felt it was wrong to ask him for money while aid was being, kind of, dangled,” Wyma said.

    http://www.suntimes.com/5545459-417/rahm-ready-to-testify-at-blago-trial-if-called.html

  94. Video of the beast getting stuck trying to get out of the gate.. I wanted to see who all got out from there but the video cuts off. Do we know if Obummer was in it?

  95. Obama finding more expenditures for Tax-Payer money- disassembling the Truth of his administration when the Truth hurts his agenda. IOW- Taxpayers to pay for Obama propaganda!
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    White House adds media position to combat unfavorable stories
    The White House is stepping up its rapid response media operation, creating a communications position to respond to unfavorable stories on the Web, the Huffington Post reports.

    HuffPo’s Sam Stein writes that Jesse Lee, a member of the Obama administration’s new media department, will take on a new role in replying — at times aggressively — to stories that paint the administration in a bad light.

    In a preview of what his duties may be, Lee blasted Fox News commentator Glenn Beck in a White House blog post, accusing Beck of lying and engaging in a “partisan attack to boost ratings.”

    “This week, Jesse Lee will move from the new media department into a role in the communications department as Director of Progressive Media & Online Response,” said Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer in an internal memo obtained by the Huffington Post.

    “For the last two years, Jesse has often worn two hats working in new media and serving as the White House’s liaison with the progressive media and online community,” the memo read. “Starting this week, Jesse will take on the second role full time working on outreach, strategy and response.”

    Lee is also expected to deal favorably with the “progressive media,” according to the memo.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110523/pl_dailycaller/whitehouseaddsmediapositiontocombatunfavorablestories

  96. Sen. Hatch To Introduce Resolution Opposing President Obama’s Israel Policy

    May 20, 2011
    By Penny Starr

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) (AP Photo)

    (CNSNews.com) – Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) issued a press release today stating his intention to introduce a resolution next week disapproving of the policy concerning Israel that President Barack Obama announced on Thursday.

    “Israel is the United States’ strongest friend and ally,” Hatch said in the statement. “By calling for a return to the pre-1967 borders, President Obama has directly undermined her.”

    Hatch said the president should be standing by Israel “against consistent, unprovoked aggression by longtime supporters of terrorism.”

    Instead, Hatch said, “President Obama is rewarding those who threaten Israel’s very right to exist.”

    “This is not only ridiculous, but dangerous,” he said.

    Hatch further said that there is “strong disapproval” of Obama’s stance in Congress and that the resolution will affirm Israel’s “right to maintain its territorial integrity.”

    “Now, more than ever, the security interests of the United States and Israel are linked,” Hatch said. “Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons is a clear and present danger to both of our nations.”

    “We cannot distance ourselves from our Israeli friends,” the senator said.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sen-hatch-introduce-resolution-against-p

  97. pm317 May 24th, 2011 at 8:13 am: At least she didn’t push that guy married to the Queen out of the picture this time.
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    Looking at BO in this picture gives me a dizzy sensation. Is he, or is he not, leaning from vertical to his left?
    Maybe that is why people swoon, faint? 🙂

  98. A few comments regarding Obama’s obsequious behavior:
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    Why doesn’t someone ask the president if the USA can go back to its 1967 borders?

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    Barryschreiber [Moderator] 15 hours ago

    Way to go Sen. Hatch. No let’s see if the Democratic leadership votes for or against. Push to the wall and make them vote on it. We win no matter what the Dems do.

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    Rff92604 [Moderator] 16 hours ago

    Did you see Woody Allen’s film “Zelig”. Aren’t their weird similarities between Obama and the fictitious character, Zelig. When he is in the middle east, he becomes enthralled and moved by Islam, when he is Africa he becomes a member of Kenyan tribe, when in Hawaii he becomes…who knows, when he was in Indonesia he became a enthralled with the Muslim call to prayer, when in Chicago he became a “community organizer”, when around a radical pastor he never discovered the real gospel just the “social gospel” espoused by the Marxist, when around Marxist he became a Marxist, when around those that follow Trotsky, (Bill Ayers) he became a follower of Bill Ayers and now that he is in Ireland where he now has become Irish….

    Mr President, all we want is a President that has some semblance of common decency and sense…not a Socialist/Marxist ideologue —

    After his speech on about Israel, those that say “it could never happen again” should rethink that….it is happening right before their very eyes just the way it happened in Germany.

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    Rubies33 [Moderator] 17 hours ago

    Mr. Obama is an seems to think he has it in the bag and can do as he likes. Now he is saying he has royal blood only from Africa…..Kenya was British possession….The Queen probably has the papers…

    Fluff

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    mikemcgoo [Moderator] 17 hours ago

    you can always tell when our CIC is not telling the truth..his lips are moving!!!

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    Mary Schraufnagel [Moderator] 20 hours ago

    Bummer knows that Iran has nuclear weapons and will use them. How many times has Israel been threatened? He is leaving her defenesless. This man absolutely does not know what he is doing. There is no thought behind anything that he does. (Or maybe there is-that’s what scares me). Now he’s off to Ireland. Honest to God, I’m suddenly ashamed of my Irish heritage. And who in the hell is paying for this trip???

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    Cindy in Ca. [Moderator] 17 hours ago in reply to Mary Schraufnagel

    Mary, WE are paying for the trip, of course! Our Pres does not know the definition of debt reduction!!!!

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    Glenn Koons [Moderator] 20 hours ago

    Hamas told our marvy CIC today, ‘no way will we ever allow Israel to exist nor will we ever recognize her.’ Ah the Bama policy of Islamo appeasement.

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    dogman67 [Moderator] 1 day ago

    …The modern day manchurian candidate…
    …only now the candidate has been voted in…

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    GollyG [Moderator] 1 day ago

    Isn’t it creepy? : obama can do anything, say any lie, break any promise, and folks still bow to him. Talk about a sickly mindset!

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  99. This makes my blood boil. It was not just Indians who were murdered. Pakistanis targeted and killed Americans, they targeted a Jewish Center and killed the Rabbi and his pregnant wife. But the Pakistani military has not paid the price, not one iota. They still get the billions. I think US should assemble a coalition along with China and get the nukes out of their hands before it is too late. They will be doing Pakistani people on the street a very big favor.

    CHICAGO—The star witness in a terrorism case that could further strain U.S.-Pakistan relations testified Monday that the Pakistani government helped support a terrorist group that carried out a massacre in Mumbai that killed more than 160 people, including six Americans.

    David Headley, a 50-year-old drug dealer turned informant who has pleaded guilty to helping plan the 2008 massacre, said Pakistan’s intelligence service ISI worked with the terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba. “They coordinated with each other. The ISI provided assistance to Lashkar,” Mr. Headley testified quietly. Asked what kind of assistance, he said, “Financial and military.”

    The testimony came in the trial of Tahawwur Rana, whom Mr. Headley befriended at boarding school in Pakistan. Mr. Rana, of Chicago, has been charged with helping Mr. Headley conduct surveillance ahead of the Mumbai attack as well as an attack on a newspaper in Copenhagen that was never carried out. Mr. Headley agreed to testify against Mr. Rana in exchange for federal prosecutors’ agreeing not to seek the death penalty. Mr. Rana has pleaded not guilty.

    The case has garnered international attention amid accusations that elements of Pakistan’s military may have helped shelter al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who was killed by U.S. forces this month in his home in Pakistan, near the elite Pakistan Military Academy. …………….

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304520804576341243965577156.html?mod=fox_australian

  100. So we pay billions to Pakistan and other countries, yet there is concern about having money to help the people of Joplin, MO rebuild their lives.

  101. pm317
    I was complaining this morning that Mo had a dress and shrug sweater on at Buckingham Palace, but I see from your photo that her sweater is actually a short jacket. Thanks. Wow, is that Kate skinny. The Queen looks like she’s lost weight too. Ok, enough comment on fashion for me this morning.

  102. #
    Southern Born
    May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    So we pay billions to Pakistan and other countries, yet there is concern about having money to help the people of Joplin, MO rebuild their lives.
    ___________________

    The National Guard should be out there SB. Where are they?

    Obama mention in the Friday address, he intends sending Billions to the ME for new construction. Building schools, government buildings and new roads.

    Katrina victims felt the same outrage and still do- Where’s FEMA?

  103. According to what I’ve heard on local news, the Missouri National Guard and also the Arkansas Guard are helping in Joplin.

    Gov. Jay Nixon supposedly called out the guard immediately. I’ll try to check on that to make sure.

    The news people on FOX were just talking about the billion or billions of government money that went to the gulf for Katrina, however, the USA is broke and unless they take money from other programs or places in the gov. we have hit the debt limit and there is not more money.

    I’ll bet we could think of a few places to cut money to help those poor people in Missouri. How about starting with cutting down on BO and MO’s multiple vacations and camapaigning if the Dems are not paying for Air Force One and all that. who b

    By the way, the people of Joplin are not demanding that the government take care of them. The churches, neighbors, and family are stepping in to help. People in St. Louis are having drives to get basic supplies to be trucked over to Joplin and I’m sure this is happening all over Missouri and other states right now.

  104. I’ve seen the damaging results of twisters before but never have I seen such clearcut devastation wiping out huge swaths of land right down to the soil itself. Trees… everything gone-

    There was a pic of the hospital, one side of it completely blown out. Cars stacked end over end in front of the ER entrance.. unbelievable…

  105. I just heard that the Guard is there to help prevent looting, although there is a minimium amount. People are volunteering to help in any way they can.

    More serious weather is forecast for the Joplin area and surrounding areas today.

  106. “The news people on FOX were just talking about the billion or billions of government money that went to the gulf for Katrina, however, the USA is broke and unless they take money from other programs or places in the gov. we have hit the debt limit and there is not more money.”
    _____________

    What they could do is declare a moratorium on the Tax Rebates and Tax Incentives for big corporations and oil companies. Instead of cutting state programs let the government collect their taxes for the next 10 yrs. Stop foreign aid- they never pay us back anyway. Didn’t Obama just forgive $1B in debt to Egypt and ask that we back them for a billion more borrowing on credit?

  107. Mrs. Smith, yes, yes, and yes.

    Just heard on the news how tax delinquents collected billions from the president’s stimulus package.

  108. Thats a relief the governor has deployed the NG. The thing is where do you begin. It would be nice if the president rolled up his sleeves and visited Joplin and afforded some comfort to MO citizens. Sending in temporary housing and prepared food until residents can get back on their feet.

    Where is Obama… the usual expected vacation when tragedy strikes the US.

  109. Heard a blurb on the news the other day- Tax Payer refunds will be delayed until June or July. Geithner dipping into the Refund Fund for interest free money to keeping federal employees pay checks covered besides dipping into their pension funds for covering running the government.

    In your wildest dreams, do you think Bill Clinton could have gotten away with this type of BS without the R’s screaming bloody murder?
    The airwaves would be full of criticism 24/7 of how the Clintons are destroying America.

  110. pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    ****

    I almost never say anything good about MEchelle, but I think she motioning her to be careful, maybe a step?

  111. Mrs. Smith
    May 24th, 2011 at 9:56 am
    *************

    I have, up the road from me about 15 years ago, Jarrell TX- they found people skinned alive in trees many miles away. It actually took up roads completely, a level 5

  112. Gonzotx, I don’t think so, I looked again, it looks like she is saying ‘come stand next to my husband’ as if she was relinquishing her spot.. 🙂

    Bigcatlover, at least she wore something befitting the occasion and her status..

  113. #
    gonzotx
    May 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    I almost never say anything good about MEchelle, but I think she motioning her to be careful, maybe a step?
    ________________

    Most Americans are so disgusted with Obama and his carefee lifestyle they could care less if both of them dropped dead on the spot. If that happened, the grief would be akin to taking a
    good sh** after being constipated for 4 and a half yrs.. Ridding the scum sucking grifters from the payroll would be the best gift we’ve gotten in a very long time-

  114. “In your wildest dreams, do you think Bill Clinton could have gotten away with this type of BS without the R’s screaming bloody murder?”

    ————————–

    This is corruption in the extreme.

  115. HuffPo’s Sam Stein writes that Jesse Lee, a member of the Obama administration’s new media department, will take on a new role in replying
    ———————-
    Too little. Too late. Words cannot erase a track record of failure. They should save their money. Also, big mistake to release this article. We now know their game. Jurnolisters on steroids. It will blow up in their faces.

  116. Obama wrong on Israel, says … Harry Reid?
    Share43 posted at 9:25 am on May 24, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

    If Barack Obama got stung by a lecture from Benjamin Netanyahu last week after publicly insisting on using the 1967 borders as a demarcation for a future Palestinian state, at least he expected the leader of Israel to scold him over the demand. He probably didn’t expect one from Harry Reid. Hours after Obama’s attempt to backpedal at AIPAC from Thursday’s speech, Reid denounced even the concept of issuing demands in speeches and declared that only negotiations between the parties could create mutually defensible borders between Israel and a future Palestinian state. Reid even managed to sound angry about it:

    The most powerful Democrat in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), on Monday night publicly rejected President Barack Obama’s decision to use a recent speech to lay out aspects of a potential peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.
    “The place where negotiating will happen must be at the negotiating table – and nowhere else,” Reid declared in a speech to an annual gathering in Washington of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). “Those negotiations … will not happen – and their terms will not be set – through speeches, or in the streets, or in the media.”

    When the Senate leader added, “No one should set premature parameters about borders, about building, or about anything else,” the lights quickly came up on the vast audience and most in the crowd at the Washington Convention Center rose to their feet and applauded.
    Wow. Reid usually only musters that kind of passion when declaring America the loser in a war.

    The White House refused comment on Reid’s remarks, but they sting. Obama framed his remarks on Thursday as merely a public statement of the principles that have guided American policy on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process for more than a decade, at least, and he’s right about that much. Previous administrations had the good sense to keep that quiet, however, and work on both sides to gain ground (pardon the pun) on an eventual, mutually-acceptable map. Both sides seem to have understood this as well. Now, just as with the earlier fumble on building in Jerusalem, Obama has changed the negotiating dynamic, and not in favor of Israel.

    Reid’s speech puts Obama firmly outside of the mainstream on this issue. The White House is finding itself isolated on the fringe and losing the battle of public opinion. If Obama hoped for a game changer with his speech on Thursday, he got one — but not in the way Obama imagined.

  117. Wow- Biden giving Bibi a Royal Welcome!

    Assigning an escort committee of senators for escorting Bibi into the Chamber.

  118. Did I see only 2 members of Obama’s cabinet introduced for this speech. They said the President’s cabinet and only 2 men walked down the aisle.

  119. Introducing Bibi- The camera just panned over to Mrs N and she looks stunning in an emerald green (satin?) jacket trimmed in black. Applause from all- a great welcome for Israel’s PM.

  120. If Trump thinks he can get back in the race and people will believe him, he is whistling dixie.

    ===================

    How did Perot do after quitting and then re-entering late? Was that in 92 or 96? Were his Nov votes much different?

  121. 13th SO- The conflict has always been about a Jewish state having the right to exist not creating a Palestinian state.

  122. Re the IMF guy accused of molesting a maid:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/imf_leader_assault
    During their investigation, authorities cut out a piece of carpet and swabbed sinks and other surfaces in his hotel room.

    ================

    Swabbing sinks and cleaning carpets is what a hotel maid does. So DNA samples turning up in incriminating places would not be conclusive evidence.

  123. That was a great speech by Bibi. And no teleprompter, just notes.

    On MO, at least her hair looks better when meeting the queen. He skirt is too much though, looks ready to party.

  124. Close but no cigar.

    Blast hits Iran refinery as Ahmadinejad visits

    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — An explosion blamed on a gas leak rocked Iran’s largest refinery on Tuesday around the time of a visit to the plant by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Iranian media reported that up to two people were killed.

    The blast occurred just before Ahmadinejad was to inaugurate and expansion project at the 400,000 barrel per day refinery in the southwestern city of Abadan, and injured 20 people, the semi-official Fars news agency said. The explosion was blamed on a “gas leakage,” but no other details were provided. Ahmadinejad himself was not injured.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-24-06-08-40

  125. As did Nancy Pelosi. Once during a standing ovation when all around her were standing she remained seated.

  126. #
    Southern Born
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Just heard that Bibi was interrupted 56 times by applause.
    ___________

    Yup, and 22 full SO-s I didn’t count the 4 or 5 others where less than half of the audience didn’t all rise.

  127. #
    JanH
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    Biden’s reluctant applause showed over and over again.
    _______________

    I counted the Big Smile on his face as he was clapping, as meaningful.

  128. Queenie and her hubby don’t seem all that happy to be with the ‘gigantic’ Ones. Maybe Queenie is still pist about the iPod videos. 😉

  129. I like MO in the full skirts, it hides her big rear. She does need to tether the hem to her pointy shoes though.

  130. Kate is so classy and understated – it’s almost cruel to have a photo of her next to MO. Like taking a picture of a rose beside a plastic daisy.

  131. Oh dear, now MO will have to redeploy BO’s 101st keyboard infantry brigade to crash her designer’s site too….

  132. O.M.G

    pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    That is so strange!
    About MO, how can she NOT wear stockings? What the he11 does she wear on her feet? Nothing? Is that true?

  133. pm317…MO dressed to coordinate with the furniture when meeting the new Duchess…

    as we were saying yesterday…MO does not dress properly for these kind of occasions…here she is in the middle of the afternoon going to a day event at Buckingham Palace and she wears a dressy, shiny, outfit made for a cocktail party or evening event…and throw on the shocking pink jacket for fun…she goes with the furniture, while the Duchess is stylish but understated…then MO clashes with the queen’s dress…doesn’t she realize the attention does not always have to be on her…

    OR…maybe this is her way of competiting for attention with BO…whatever it is, her style choices are on purpose…and if it were anyone else, the MSM would be all over it…but MO is the next Jackie O! ask Chris Matthews…

  134. basil, she never wears stockings. Now that kind of explains her weird selection in clothing.. if she were to wear tailored suits, then she will have to wear a hose, no?

  135. Mo not wearing hose is a racist thing…she thinks she not like white women and have to cover all the freckles and stuff…black is beautiful and doesn’t need hose to cover the skin….its a black power thing…hopefully I didn’t offend anyone here, but that’s my take on her hoselessness.

    I have to say that the fraud in Ireland trying to convince everyone he’s black Irish was the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while….thanks for the laugh…

    I went to the grocery store this morning….guess what 4 small bags of groceries….$92. damn dollars…what with our dollar?? Are they as low as Pesos now or what????

    Gosh I am sick of this idiot and chief and I’m sorry there is no one on the rethug side I can believe in…everyone I like they dig up some shit on them or threaten them….folks its time to realize the WH is controlled by NOI…and its MOB!

  136. OH great the idiot did not know how to play table tennis???? Where the fuck did he grow up…surely not America! LOL!

  137. This post was adapted from Brian Till’s new book, “Conversations with Power: What Great Presidents and Prime Ministers Can Teach Us about Leadership.”

    Bill Clinton: There Are No Great Generations, Just Different Problems

    May 24, 2011

    The office where I met Clinton high in the UN headquarters building belongs to another era. It is an institution built for a world of the past — one based on Cold War rivalries and the last century’s balance of power. It was Clinton’s first day in the cramped space, and his entourage of bodyguards and assistants were stumbling over one another in the confines. The Secret Service men dispatched a young press aide to inquire why so many UN staffers were loitering near the elevators, though it was clear that they were simply trying to catch a glimpse of the ex-president.

    “Is this the office?” an exhausted Clinton asked after shaking my hand. I nodded, as did most of the swarm that followed him. The entire place felt as if it hadn’t been touched since the early fifties when the building was raised, a lone skyscraper above an otherwise flat block on the East Side of Manhattan. I heard him chuckle to a staffer as he stepped inside, “You know what,” — ‘wahut,’ the final word came out — “It kinda reminds me of Mad Men. Have you seen that show yet?”

    In the 2008 presidential election, Clinton was cast as a villain, an overbearing spouse allegedly eliciting racism1 to propel his ambitious wife forward to the presidency and, conceivably, to reclaim a good deal of power himself. The Democratic presidential primary of 2008 muddled the esteem that had ballooned during eight years of gaffes and incompetence by his successor in the Oval Office. During that span, Clinton largely redefined the post- presidential years; he circled the globe as a nimble, intrepid freelancer, leveraging charisma and a seemingly limitless Rolodex for both the broader good and personal gain.

    “Clinton is a nonprofit conglomerate,” says one former advisor and long-time friend. It’s not an in- accurate characterization. His work fittingly mirrors the rise of social networking and the Internet, a two-point-zero version of previous post-presidential benevolence.

    Among his most important accomplishments is his success drastically reducing the cost of life-saving anti-retro viral treatment for AIDS victims around the world. The latest round of deals with pharmaceutical companies — on the heels of others that have helped two million people access treatment — drops the cost of second-line regiments, for those whose illnesses have overcome first line drugs, by 60 percent. Commitments to charitable work made each year by individuals and corporations attending the Clinton Global Initiative conference reach into the billions of dollars. He launched a ten-year $100 million campaign against extreme poverty in Rwanda and Malawi and, in 2005, raised over a $120 million following Hurricane Katrina with George H. W. Bush.

    As president, his achievements were matched by equally notable shortfalls. He presided over a massive expansion of economic growth, generating surpluses of $122 billion and $230 billion during his last two years in office; he waged a successful campaign to stem genocide in Kosovo, and greatly expanded free trade and global commerce. But his failure to intervene in Rwanda, where some 800,000 were massacred, or to move effectively to stop genocide in Bosnia, or to advance middle east peace, marked high-profile failures. Domestically, he was unable to pass comprehensive health care reform and ambitious campaign finance reforms. He signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999, which had raised a wall between the speculative trading and underwriting of investment banks and the more traditional lending of commercial, depository banks. The law had been in place since the 1930s. Its elimination helped inflate the massive bubble that burst in the 2007 financial collapse, and meant commercial institutions, like Bank of America and Citibank, were allowed to assume massive risk in the form of housing market credit derivatives. They, of course, had to be bailed out to protect the broader economy. “I think they were wrong,” he told ABC in April 2010, referring to his economics advisors, “and I think I was wrong to take [their advice].” The Monica Lewinsky scandal and a myriad of other sex-related allegations forever scarred his legacy and remains the first thought for many when his name is invoked.

    But for most of those who’ve had the chance to interact with Clinton, his warmth and intelligence overpower the more lurid details that special prosecutor Ken Starr seared into the American conscience. Clinton is surprisingly tender in person, a gentle handshake matches the soft white hair and the unmistakable bulb nose.

    He has been called the Michael Jordan of politics, an apt comparison in terms of both talent and intensity. Stan Greenberg, who worked as a consultant for both of Clinton’s bids for the White House, recalled Clinton’s rage at a Ross Perot attack in the closing days of the 1992 campaign: “They are attacking my character and we must attack Perot’s character.” He went on, speaking over the phone with aides after a long day of campaigning, “We need to take a meat axe to his brain, cut his head open.” He demanded a response that was “red meat and passion, no more pussy ads.”

    William Jefferson Blythe III never met his father, a traveling salesman who died in a car accident three months before Bill was born. He took the name Clinton from his hard-drinking and abusive stepfather, Roger, who Bill, at fourteen, demanded never hit his mother again. He hid the abuse from most people in his life. As a junior at Georgetown University, though, he shuttled back and forth to Durham, North Carolina on weekends to make peace with his dying stepfather as he underwent cancer treatments. Clinton almost never drinks; he sleeps little and speaks without reprieve. On the day that we met, the topics of his endless seminar ranged from the evolution of the light bulb to early twentieth-century American film to the beauty of Columbia’s Aburrá Valley and Medellín.

    Perhaps the most interesting dimension of his character is the pace with which he lives. “He had said to everybody over and over and over again,” Chelsea Clinton has said, “that none of the men in his family live past sixty, or much past.” As a result, he has always moved at a rather reckless pace, trying to accomplish as much as possible before a short clock — either real, imagined, or prophetically self-fulfilling — ticks to a stop.
    As members of my generation look around the world today, we see climate change on the rise and nothing in the way of a successor for the Kyoto Protocol, the proliferation of nuclear weapons still un abated, Millennium Development Goals we’re still well short of, a hugely imbalanced global economy that will continue to undermine itself, and I wonder if you worry that you and this post-Cold War generation of leaders will be judged harshly by history?

    No. I think that’s a cheap trick. I mean, all of this “the greatest generation is World War II?” — it just happens that they’re the most horrible parents in human history, right?

    If all of us baby boomers were so bad, then our parents were terrible; they failed. And if we were so bad, how come our kids are so great? We were hellaciously good parents.

    I think it’s phony as a $3 bill. I think they had a chance to win World War II and it was clear. These are much more complex things [now]. We have no idea if the World War II generation would have made the decisions they should make on climate change if they thought doing so would bring an end to their economic prosperity.

    The real problem in climate change is that we’re paying for our past success. The established order has too many self-protecting economic entities, and not enough people who yet understand what it takes to change.

    The World War II generation was thrown into a war by a madman, Hitler, and an expansionist empire in Japan, and we did what we had to do. Look, I admire the World War II generation; I’m just trying to make a point here. I don’t think there are defective generations. There are times and struggles and they present different challenges.

    I believe the United States will pass reasonably good climate change legislation, I believe we will get a successor that will be better than Kyoto, and I think that we’re in a race against time and circumstance.

    This will be calamitous if we don’t do something about it, and the population of the earth will drop hugely over the next 1,000 years, maybe over the next 200 years, if we don’t do something about it.

    We’re really in a race against time. I think history is a relay race and you just got to keep handing off and making things happen. I’m basically pretty optimistic.

    Where the intersection of science and politics is on climate change, I’d leave to others. We might lose. Our minds may not be able to expand enough collectively to avert the worst.

    I think most people are more literal and they learn things in a serial fashion. Most people have all they can do to keep body and soul together — even before this economic collapse — raise their kids, pay their taxes, worry about how to pay for college, deal with their mother’s health, and everything.

    It just takes time to change the mindset, but we’re a much more communitarian country and a much more communitarian world than we were 20 years ago. I basically think you’ve got to get people’s attitudes right, and then they have to have a general analysis that’s right, and you have to organize for action. And you just have to stumble in the right direction. I’m pretty upbeat about it.

    When you’re my age, I hope you’re dealing with a different set of problems. There’ll always be problems, but that’s what I hope will happen

    David Leopolus, a childhood friend of yours, used to joke with friends that if they were bored, they could always go and watch you read. Is that insatiable curiosity critical to being a good leader?

    Well, I think that insatiable curiosity is important in a time dominated by complexity and dynamism, because you have so many things you need to understand. For the last 20 years, insatiable curiosity has been really important.

    I think in order to do one or two big things, you have to know many little things. I think it’s also important in a complex time with a lot of dynamism to be able to relate to all different kinds of people, because, in the end, most political power depends more on persuasion rather than coercion.

    And then I think you have to be able to reconcile the complexities and order them in a pattern. For a lot of people who just follow the evening news or read the morning paper, it’s like the political equivalent of chaos theory in physics.

    But your job, if you’re a leader, is to take superficially random events and organize them into patterns that tell you what you should do to maximize an opportunity or head off the problem.

    Being decisive in the face of complexity and ambiguity is important. Being able to make a call, to decide to act, and then figuring out how to act to support that decision. Yes, be curious; yes, appreciate the complexity and ambiguity; but then organize into patterns and decide what you’re going to do and execute. I think that’s extremely important.

    You know, Machiavelli said in the 15th century that change was hard because the people who would benefit from it were uncertain of their gain and the people who would lose were positive of their loss; that’s pretty much the way it still is. And if you sign on to be a progressive change agent, you had to have a high threshold for pain and you keep throwing yourself under the bridge, but I believe you can really make a difference if you just make these efforts and get up and work at it every day. I left the White House more optimistic than I entered it, after all I went through, and I would wake up every day believing that you can make good things happen.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/bill-clinton-there-are-no-great-generations-just-different-problems-20110524

  138. That not wearing stockings is just too bizarre not to mention it must be uncomfortable, especially in cold windy weather.

    And what about hygiene – especially with shoes. Sounds disgusting to me.

    And I don’t love pantyhose but, come on, for formal affairs, how can you not wear them?

    Honestly, I don’t get it. She is horrible.

  139. confloyd
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Mo not wearing hose is a racist thing…she thinks she not like white women and have to cover all the freckles and stuff…black is beautiful and doesn’t need hose to cover the skin….its a black power thing…hopefully I didn’t offend anyone here, but that’s my take on her hoselessness.
    *************************

    I’m afraid I have to disagree with you on this, Confloyd. It has been considered the fashion for several years for women to go without panty hose. Checking out tv, you will see this look everywhere. Whether you think it is appropriate for the First Lady to mimic this fashion is another matter.

  140. Bill Clinton: There Are No Great Generations, Just Different Problems

    ==================

    True, Bill makes good points.

    However when people talk about ‘the greatest generation’ being entitled to the Social Security and Medicare they paid into, and other benefits — remember that generation suffered the most and made the greatest sacrifices, so they deserve more benefits.

  141. pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    What is the matter with this guy?

    Don’t you know that he is a Brilliant Idiot?

  142. We only saw the date flub because it happened outside the USA. And the msm will be careful to gloss over it.
    Imagine if W or Hillary or Palin had made such a stupid mistake – can you imagine Tweety & Maddow not talking about it 24/7?

  143. Heh, Brits are just so polite when they say MO sticks out like a sore thumb! In what is supposed to be gushingflusff piece, I am impressed at how snide the fashion writer gets.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/michelle-obama-style-upstage-rivals

    Her outfit for the palace visit will perhaps play better at home than it will in Britain: the full-skirted shape and curved collar referenced a gracious, homemade lemonade vision of American womanhood which is perhaps what the US public want her to represent at Buckingham Palace. But to modern British eyes – post Alexander McQueen wedding dress, post-Pippa madness – it looked somewhat stiff and upholstered.

    The contrast with the new Duchess of Cambridge was marked and surprising. The first lady was in girlish, almost princessly sheeny florals; the new princess, by contrast, looked a vision of modern, transatlantic glamour.

  144. Obama flubbing the date 2008-

    Might be wishful thinking on his part.

    The 2012 campaign isn’t remotely like it was in 2007.
    _________________

    HBO New Special:

    The 2008 Banking Crisis

    “TOO BIG TO FAIL”

  145. “The contrast with the new Duchess of Cambridge was marked and surprising. The first lady was in girlish, almost princessly sheeny florals; the new princess, by contrast, looked a vision of modern, transatlantic glamour.”
    ______________________

    Michelle is stuck in the time warp of the 80’s wearing something she dreamed about when she was in her teen years reworked with luxurious fabrics. The only thing missing was a pull on poofy crinoline half-slip. As can be seen on reruns of Happy Days.

  146. stiff and upholstered

    oh no! isn’t that what hillbuzz guys used to say, sofa and curtains.. but this time it matches the palace furniture not just any sofa.

  147. “the new princess, by contrast, looked a vision of modern, transatlantic glamour.””
    _________________________

    That she did- William stood in a wide stance balanced on firm footing when speaking to Obama. Obama stood talking with rt leg bent at the knee as a presupposed gesture unsure whether he should fully genuflect to the man, the future King.

    Looking at the picture gave me a chill. William marking time with his beautiful new bride. The Obamas savoring every last minute drinking in the splendor of the Royal lifestyle something as elusive to them as the thought acknowledging the possibility they may never be invited back to Buckingham Palace if Obama is not reelected in 2012. Both Obamas look awkward and out of place visiting a setting reserved for historical moments.

  148. well, as my husband would say it is not fair to expect the Obamas to feel at home with the royals with so much history and so much luxury. Is that a racist comment? I don’t think so. It is an honest observation looking at their life circumstances and upbringing. In addition, even with the given opportunities they seem to have grown up to be quite low class people with a huge boulder on their shoulders. So naturally they feel out of place. I wish they exhibited the confidence and the assertiveness of being with their young hosts. But on other hand, it is a huge affirmation of what America is all about in that it can elevate this man to a place that old Europe will never do; people here did vote for him (regardless of how he came to be the nominee or that he is a charlatan).

  149. pm, that’s a very generous and kind way to look at it, but I sort of disagree. Other foreign heads of state from humble origins and/or poor countries have met royalty with dignity; their dignity comes from knowing that is an honor for them to represent their country; they have more pride in their country than they do in their persons. BO&MO know that they are frauds and that’s why they overcompensate. Too worried about how they personally look rather than thinking about how they represent their country. Just imo.

  150. votermom, there is no disagreement here only I am sloppy in expressing myself. I tried to cover what you are saying with this sentence “..even with the given opportunities they seem to have grown up to be quite low class people with a huge boulder on their shoulders.” I am talking about their mindset.

  151. Bill Clinton: There Are No Great Generations, Just Different Problems
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    Not true
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    I actually think MO has some serious dressing problems, she has to deal with the over-sized derrière and I think her clothing choice was a step in the right direction for her. A long way to go, but Jesus, think of some of the outfits she has worn. Someone needs to throw out the little sweaters and jackets, not making it.

  152. 1,500 Reported Missing as Teams Search Tornado Wreckage…
    OBAMA: I’LL GET THERE ON SUNDAY…

  153. Biden Does Not Applaud After Netanyahu Says Jerusalem Will Not Be Divided

    “Jerusalem must never again be divided,” Bibi Netanyahu said. Notably visible, Vice President Joe Biden did not applaud after Netanyahu called for an undivided Jerusalem.

    “Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel,” Netanyahu declared.

  154. “..even with the given opportunities they seem to have grown up to be quite low class people with a huge boulder on their shoulders.” I am talking about their mindset.

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    I took ‘boulder’ as meaning a VERY BIG ‘chip on their shoulder.’ Ie a hostile, resentful attitude.

  155. from ACE

    May 24, 2011
    Old And Busted: We Need To Do More Screening To Save Money On Health Care
    New Hotness: Hey Docs, Shut Up About All Those Expensive Screenings
    —DrewM.

    Bait and switch.

    During the health care debate Obama and the Democrats went on and on about how great screenings and preventative medicine would be to keep costs down. Now, it was pretty clear to everyone not trying to shove health care “reform” down Americas throat that was not going to pan out.

    Now liberal wunderkind Ezra Klein has decided that all these screenings are going to cost way too much and not provide enough benefit. What’s a good liberal to do when their talking points run into cold, hard reality? Admit that maybe they aren’t that smart and perhaps should be a bit more humble about their ability to control the health care decisions of hundreds of millions of Americans? Of course not. Obviously the solution is to have doctors stop talking to patients about available options.

    So if you’re anything like me, take a moment to think about how much you don’t want to believe that lung-cancer screenings or breast-cancer screenings may not actually work. And then think about trying to convince yourself they don’t work when your doctor is strongly urging you to get screened.
    That’s why, if you want to control health-care costs, you somehow need to convince, incentivize or otherwise conscript doctors into doing it for you. Robin Hanson can write as many blog posts as he wants, but as long as doctors are telling scared and uncertain patients that they need to get screened, they’re getting screened. The moment they stop telling patients to get screened, screenings will plummet. In health care, doctors are really the relevant decision-makers. And right now, they don’t have the evidence to make good decisions nor the incentives to make cost-effective decisions.

    Remember this line from Obama’s big health care “reform” speech to Congress?

    And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies — (applause) — because there’s no reason we shouldn’t be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse. That makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives.
    Now, having gotten their law passed, the technocrats want to “convince, incentivize or otherwise conscript doctors” into shutting up about the very things they were talking up as part of their sales pitch.

    It’s like liberals have no clue what they are doing but are ready to boldly and persistently experiment with your health. And if some people don’t get the right treatment while the experts tweak and refine their formulas…well you know, eggs and omelets.

  156. “Vice President Joe Biden did not applaud after Netanyahu called for an undivided Jerusalem.”
    _________________

    You know the Obama thugs were taking names of every Rep and Senator that attended Bibi speech. Hillary was smart, she went to London therefore avoiding a clash with her Boss. Biden had to attend. And pretend he is supporting the president.

  157. The Israeli Prime Minister gets it about America in a way our president does not.F rom American Thinker
    *****

    May 24, 2011
    Why Did the Congress Love Bibi?
    Richard Baehr

    As Jennifer Rubin has laid out in her Washington Post blog entry, Bibi Netanyahu delivered a near perfect speech to the joint session of Congress today, capping a remarkable six days in which the U.S Israel relationship has been center stage.

    “Bibi Netanyahu did several critical things: demonstrated that he and members of Congress from both parties are entirely in sync; refocused the world on Iran; publicly stated he would give up land considered by Jews to be part of their historic homeland; left no doubt that the Palestinians’ refusal to recognize a Jewish state is the sole reason there is no Palestinian state; and implicitly made a mockery of President Obama’s fixation on settlements. I will take each in order.

    more at link

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/why_did_the_congress_love_bibi.html

  158. Hey, what have you guys done with my friend wbboei?!

    Tell him I was only joking when I said this:
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    #pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 7:14 am

    oh my, wbboei, you blog hog, you!!!!!! you have outdone yourself this time!!!!!!!!!
    ————————–

    May be he will hog the blog in the wee hours of the morning. But is it really hogging the blog if you are the only commenter? (you know, like a tree falling in the forest, does it make a noise?)

  159. it is not fair to expect the Obamas to feel at home with the royals with so much history and so much luxury. Is that a racist comment? I don’t think so. It is an honest observation looking at their life circumstances and upbringing. In addition, even with the given opportunities they seem to have grown up to be quite low class people

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    First we’d have to look at how other US black people have behaved with European nobility: Colin Powell, Condi Rice, as well as black entertainers.

    Also consider Barak Obama’s own upbringing: white guilt middle or upper class family, white elite limosine liberal schools, Harvard, etc. Looked at simply, that should have made him comfortable, with elite manners. Michelle Obama’s background was middle class Chicago Daley machine. She also went to Ivy League school, as a legacy from her brother. So really neither of them should have the excuse of poverty or ghetto upbringing.

    However as part of the Daley Chicago machine, Michelle’s family had to play the race card, pretend to be low class and oppressed, to get the votes of the blacks who really were. Then Barak came into that role, also having to play ghetto. So maybe that’s what they’re still doing: pandering to their ghetto base, or maybe they’ve really forgotten better behavior.

  160. pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

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    LOL, really, some nights I feel like it’s just Wbb and me wandering through deserted city streets propping up the lamp posts. 😉

  161. I don’t know, I think even poor people expect leaders to behave better. Pretending to be low class and oppressed seems like the Obama invention though. They think that is what sells and they are wrong.

    I am impressed with Condi Rice, Colin Powell not so much. He would not be Colin Powell without the military. Military straightens you out in so many ways, Black or White or other.

  162. 1,500 Reported Missing as Teams Search Tornado Wreckage…
    OBAMA: I’LL GET THERE ON SUNDAY…

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    He’d just get in the way. All his security people. His big car would get stuck in the mud, good riddance.

    In an earlier flood — Ohio? — did he really do a photo op putting down sandbags — WEARING A SUIT?

  163. His big car would get stuck in the mud, good riddance.

    That is funny.. lot of people laughed when the beast got stuck.. see the video above.

  164. LOL, really, some nights I feel like it’s just Wbb and me wandering through deserted city streets propping up the lamp posts.

    I forgot to say at a syncopated pace: an irregular progression between bars. 😉

  165. gonzotx
    May 24th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    The Israeli Prime Minister gets it about America in a way our president does not.F rom American Thinker
    _________________

    Great, great, great, article! Thanks for posting it!

  166. Tear down that wall Mr Gorbachev!

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    Bibi

    So I say to President Abbas: Tear up your pact with Hamas! Sit down and negotiate! Make peace with the Jewish state! And if you do, I promise you this. Israel will not be the last country to welcome a Palestinian state as a new member of the United Nations. It will be the first to do so.

  167. comments about his flubbed toast and signing
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    Interesting to note that Obama signed the guest book at Westminister Abbey….” May 24, 2008″. Maybe it’s time for a mental state exam.

    OBummer needs a teleprompter to make a toast? Either he is the idiot I always thought; was drunk from his Ireland trip; or he is still on drugs?

  168. The explanation seems to be that he should have waited for the song to finish and then pick up his toast and end it.. but he kept talking through the song. Where are his protocol advisers? Does he not have any?

  169. pm317
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    These pics are a lot of fun.
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    Yup, the only fun we have during the rein of this fraud is making fun of them. 😉

    ……….I had to log in twice to post, what’s up with that?

  170. votermom
    May 24th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    pm, that’s a very generous and kind way to look at it, but I sort of disagree. Other foreign heads of state from humble origins and/or poor countries have met royalty with dignity; their dignity comes from knowing that is an honor for them to represent their country; they have more pride in their country than they do in their persons. BO&MO…

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    BO and MO in the same paragraph with the word ‘dignity’…

    😆 😆 Pretty darn funny.

  171. Not sure I would characterize what I do as making fun of them, 😉 They are a case study.. take that flubbed toast example. Why did it have to happen? Awkward things are easily avoidable with preparation. Why wear above the knee full skirt on a windy day? Can’t they check the weather forecast? I am checking the weather forecast for my trip this weekend to see what I should pack. Knowing that they are on camera all the time, can’t prepare themselves better?

  172. for turndown
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    Transcript: Al Gore Got ‘D’ in ‘Natural Sciences’ at Harvard

    Tuesday, May 24, 2011

    By Michael W. Chapman

    (CNSNews.com) – In his commencement speech at Hamilton College on Sunday, former Vice President Al Gore told the graduates that global warming is “the most serious challenge our civilization has ever faced.” But as an undergraduate at Harvard University in the late 1960s, Gore–one of the most prominent spokesmen on climate change today–earned a “D” in Natural Sciences.

  173. Pm

    Well, maybe you are more professional in your critiques 😉

    I am plain out making fun of them for being so full of themselves they don’t bother to look around. This isn’t their first rodeo with Queenie and the gang.

  174. That fashion article snark by the British paper was a riot but not exactly fair. They trashed MO’s full skirt but thought Mrs. Cameron’s was great. They did subtract points from Sam Cameron because she did not have hosiery on either. I’d be nervous and clunky at the Palace also but I think the orchestra striking up God Save the Queen while Obama was still making a toast was the last straw for him. He looks a little disgusted as he puts his glass down and waits for the song to finish. The Queen, Camilla and the other Brits are ramrod straight looking straight ahead as he fumbles to finish the toast while the band plays on. Not a good couple of days for the Obamas.

  175. votermom:

    “BO&MO know that they are frauds and that’s why they overcompensate. Too worried about how they personally look rather than thinking about how they represent their country.”
    ____________________

    Good point- and most of all they are “white hating racists,” with a cherry on top! They didn’t sneer like they usually do. They just stumbled and bumbled their way through for two days thinking they could pull off a special invitation from the Queen. They couldn’t. Their protocol mistakes were as visible as 5 lb pustule sitting on the tip of Obama’s nose.

    I’ll bet they didn’t send a wedding gift to William and Kate because they weren’t invited to the wedding. And never thought to personally present a wedding gift to the Royal couple when they arrived at the Palace. (or there was a gift given to W&K- more plastic toys from the WH gift shop!)

    It wouldn’t surprise me if they omitted telling Obama to wait for the toast until the band concluded it’s music, more as a British slap for their insolence pointing to their ignorance deemed rude and unacceptable behavior coming from heads of state.

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