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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Romney? Newt? Are Republicans Stupid Or Crazy?

As we have written before: Donald Trump beats Barack Obama like a rented mule and many Republicans/conservatives react by beating up on…. Trump! Huh? Ever hear of the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, fellas/gals?

Trump is attacked by some Republicans/conservatives because as a New York businessman he donated to some Democrats and even Obama Dimocrats. The donations angle is a fair line of attack although most people understand the need for businessmen in New York City and elsewhere to bribe/donate/contribute to politicians. There are a lot of reasons for some Republicans/conservatives to oppose Donald Trump but why is he the only target of the “get out” crowd?

Consider Newt Gingrich. Newt Gingrich is running a publicity stunt candidacy. Newt has to know that he is not going to be the Republican nominee for president. It’s not just Newt’s repulsive face either. It’s not just that Wayne Gacy “smile”. It’s not just Newt’s “baggage” – you know, the wife with cancer he dumped for another wife, the impeachment drama of Bill Clinton while Newt was getting the same treatment in parking lots from GOP wives and interns, the temper tantrums, the damaging stories that will come out.



The problem Newt has is that for all intents and purposes, if you saw his 2012 debut appearances yesterday, is running on a platform of nostalgic “bring back the Bill Clinton economy.” Good luck with that Newtie. Newt will try to take credit for the 1990s economy, and many Republicans/conservatives will accept the premise that it was Newt, not Bill, that deserves the credit – but most Americans will laugh at that notion. Newt also does not seem to appreciate the hole he is digging if he persists in praising the 1990s, with those Bill Clinton tax rates.

Unlike with Donald Trump, many Republicans/conservatives will tolerate Newt. But why is it a problem for businessman Trump to cavort with Democrats but OK for Newtie to do this?:



Nasty Newt is not alone on this issue. Most, if not all, of the “serious” Republican candidates have a serious problem with this cap and trade/global warming. But a video with Nancy Pelousy?

Consider Willard Romney. Most Americans hate the Obama health scam. Willard, as a Republican nominee, would not be able to exploit this most potent issue. He just won’t. He just can’t:

Mitt Romney used slide after slide in a PowerPoint presentation Thursday to make the case that the health care reform law he signed in 2006 isn’t much like the one President Barack Obama signed last year.

The catch, as Romney all but admitted: Almost nobody believes him. [snip]

In one PowerPoint slide, Romney said Massachusetts’s goal had been to “Help people get and keep their insurance.” Obama’s goal, he said, was “a government takeover of health care.”

But in the run-up to Thursday’s speech, voices on the right and left reached a moment of rare agreement: “Romneycare” is, in fact, almost indistinguishable from “Obamacare.”

“As everyone knows, the health reform Mr. Romney passed in 2006 as Massachusetts governor was the prototype for President Obama’s version and gave national health care a huge political boost,” The Wall Street Journal wrote in a scathing editorial.

The paper said Romney should apologize for the Massachusetts law — or just “knock off Joe Biden and get on the Obama ticket.”

The similarities between what he championed in Massachusetts and what the president has championed are about 100 percent,” Center for American Progress’s Neera Tanden, who sits on the board of the pro-reform group Protect Your Care, said on MSNBC Thursday morning.

“It doesn’t even seem fair to call them similarities, it seems like they’re identicalities,” says Michael Cannon, health policy director with the Cato Institute.”

Romney garnished his “identicalities” refudiation “I’m not sorry” with a batch of new not-to-be-believed promises. He would provide “Obamacare waivers for all 50 states”. Then repeal, then new reforms, eventually Jesus would land in Missouri – alarming Evangelicals.

Picture Romney with a hat and cane – he’s a song and dance man in a vaudeville hall. Yet no Republican/conservative is calling for the hook to get him off stage. The man would throw away a major issue/strategy/tactic but he is considered “serious.” Willard is seriously flawed. Willard also does not poll well with the white working class and that’s another missed opportunity as the white working class does not like Barack Obama at all.

So laughable was the Willard spectacle of authentically genuine foolery (“a sincere, intelligent, cogent, informed political disaster“), Ron Paul’s odd plea on behalf of Pakistan and the “not necessary” killing of Bin Laden was lost in the gales of laughter. Get the hook!

Of course, Ron Paul is not considered a “serious” candidate either but no one (other than Donald Trump at CPAC) dares say so openly because Paul has a strong and committed army of supporters. Ron Paul is tolerated and allowed to express his view and trust is placed on Republican voters to not vote for Paul. That is as it should be. Let the voters decide.

Sarah Palin is not considered a “serious” candidate either mostly because she is thus far not running and because the Republican establishment and Big Media hates and fears her. They won’t explicitly demand she get out because Palin has an even bigger army of strong and committed supporters than Paul – and she fights like a girl, not one of these weak guys.

Herman Cain, we wrote about him last year:

“We’re not fans of multi-millionaire Cain but he is playing a very shrewd game. As a successful business owner of a very popular food product (we’re not fans of his pizza either but sales figures tell us it is tasty to many), he can easily vault to the top ranks of Republican grassroots leadership as a voice that potentially reaches black voters as well as Tea Party activists. And Cain can do so with a non race based appeal even as his race will certainly be a matter of discussion.

After Republicans dump the failure called Michael Steele the shouts of “racism” will be heard. Cain will provide a valuable counterpoint when the “racism” charge is heard. Cain also fills out (in a sane manner, unlike Keyes) the diversity menu for Republicans.”

Cain is getting a lot of good press lately, but he is not considered a “serious” candidate by the Republican establishment or Big Media either. No one is going to tell Cain to get out however. He won’t be told “get out” partly because he is black and that would be a “racist” disaster but also because he speaks with a force the grassroots appreciates and he has a business background which brings a certain credibility on the economy and jobs. And they like his pizza.

* * * * * *

Before we summarize the above, let’s take a moment to sadly laugh at the news that Osama Bin Laden “didn’t think Vice President Joe Biden was worth bumping off”. And — now on sale — the Barack Obama/Navy Seal action figure. But it’s not just a Barack Obama Seal Team Six Action Figure. It comes with Michelle Obama arms and – no sleeves. Moment of laughter over, let’s summarize.

* * * * * *

Republicans/conservatives want to run off Donald Trump even though Trump is the only one who has brought excitement and pizazz to this election cycle. Trump exploded the birth certificate landmine well before November 2012 and a strong argument can be made that Obama gave the kill order on Binny in order to polish off The Donald. The Donald also “got into Obama’s head” and showed Republicans that Obama has a glass jaw and an empty, clunking head.

But they want to run him off like gray whiskered gold miners at a depleted mine. They squint their eyes at the young stranger in the wagon with a strange new drill type thingy and say “bes’ you be movin’ on stranger – we don’t want no excavator whatchamacallits here. We’ll keep diggin’ with our busted shovels and hands and someday we’ll find us an ol’ vein and we’ll be rich. Rich! So jes keep on yer way stranger.”

Waiting for the old miners to fade away or die is Tim Pawlenty. His entire strategy is to be the last man standing. Rick Santorum, who lost his senate seat in Pennsylvania and would likely lose the Keystone State in 2012, is also hoping that the frontrunners will be caught in a cave-in because he thinks he can battle with Pawlenty once the serious ones are crushed to earth and, after all, he is more serious than the non-serious like Paul, Cain, and Johnson.

Meanwhile Donald Trump, far from being run off, is writing another best seller. It’s a “policy” book published by conservative house Regnery Publishing and is on a “crash schedule” for a late summer release. It appears that The Donald is not about to be run off and he is staking a claim.

Last time we experienced such a “get off my ranch” moment was when the Democratic “leadership” said “Step Aside Woman!” On May 31, 2008 the “Chicago Rules Committee” of the Democratic Party stole an entire election process and the votes of the Democratic Party rank and file. That did not work out so well for the Democratic Party although it was a great career advancement move for a certain flim-flam man from Chicago.

Three years later, the Republican establishment, and Big Media want to run off Donald Trump. They think they have succeeded in running off Sarah Palin and the Tea Party too.

Why is the Republican establishment trying to scare off Donald Trump from announcing at the end of May? To get a “serious” candidate that without serious help cannot be trusted to get voters excited and win the nomination on his own merit.

The Republican establishment has geared up to destroy Trump and Palin and Paul and eventually Cain and others. For what? Newt? Romney? Are Republicans Stupid – Or Crazy?

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225 comments to Romney? Newt? Are Republicans Stupid Or Crazy?

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Why is the Republican establishment trying to scare off Donald Trump from announcing at the end of May? To get a “serious” candidate that without serious help cannot be trusted to get voters excited and win the nomination on his own merit.”
    ______________________

    Because they want Obama re-elected. He owes them Big Time for the help he received from them STOPPING Hillary.

  • Tony Stark

    To paraphrase Obiwan Kenobi, “Trump is our last hope.”

  • S

    Why is the Republican establishment trying to scare off Donald Trump from announcing at the end of May? To get a “serious” candidate that without serious help cannot be trusted to get voters excited and win the nomination on his own merit.

    The Republican establishment has geared up to destroy Trump and Palin and Paul and eventually Cain and others. For what? Newt? Romney? Are Republicans Stupid – Or Crazy?

    ****************************************

    Why?

    …because as Trump has already said and answered that question…and many of us have already realized…BECAUSE T does not belong to the establishment Republican Club

    …and neither does Sarah Palin…btw does anyone else think it is laugh out loud funny that all of a sudden she is in the news because she was a big reformer who worked with dems in Alaska and went against her party…IMAGINE THAT…the MSM just found that out and is writing about it and discussing it this week…years later…

    ***********************************

    Why?

    …a couple of days ago a poll came out that said many Repubs and tea party people want a Third Party…they think it is time for a third party…

    T, Cain, Sarah, and Paul need to stick together and screw the Repub establishment…stand up to them…speak the truth…the rest of us…dems, indeps, repubs, whatever label we/they go by…are ready for some truthtellers and some action…and a NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS…not the pussyfooting around and continued corruption we are getting from both the established dims and established repubs…the same old, same old…

  • Shadowfax

    Donald Trump beats Barack Obama like a rented mule!

    Now that’s a bumper sticker I can support, Admin. ;-)

    BTR

  • JanH

    admin,

    Earlier today I asked “if not Trump then who?” and got no answer.

    I think your new article says it all.

  • Shadowfax

    Republicans/conservatives to oppose Donald Trump but why is he the only target of the “get out” crowd?

    For the same reason both Rep & Dims attacked Hillary. THEY want to pick the party candidate and not have someone they can’t control or make them toe the line.

    Both Trump and Hillary are the people’s candidates, and are not beholding to either party.

    This is essentially what Trump said in his last video.

  • JanH

    And here obama is going to genuflect, speechify, and beg his Arab buddies to forgive him for having their messiah killed…

    ———————–

    How Stupid Can People Be? BHL: Fatah-Hamas alliance a catastrophe for everyone

    Thursday, May 12, 2011- Iyar 8, 5771

    How can so many be so foolish?

    That’s the question French philosopher and writer Bernard-Henri Levy asks about the recently signed Fatah-Hamas alliance, which he calls a “catastrophe” for everyone.

    …how can so many commentators, how can this or that eminence of whatever parliamentary commission, this or that minister or former minister, how can the French Socialist party–in short, how can so many reasonable minds welcome the reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas as good news, a good sign, like the far too long delayed reunion of a too long divided people, when it is, in reality, a catastrophe?

    For the Israelis: because it legitimizes Hamas.

    For Mahmoud Abbas: Because he loses all moral credit.

    For the Palestinians: Because their new rulers are Islamic fascists.

    And don’t think, Levi (who is widely known as “BHL”) writes, that Hamas can “moderate” itself once it comes to power.

    And so, I know that people are saying, “Wait, you’ll see, give it some time, it’s by letting the fascists back into the game, by flattering them, showing them consideration, that we’ll succeed in toning them down, in improving them.”

    Well, we’ll see. Except that the only thing we’ve seen so far, the first strong gesture the candidates for improvement made, the day after this shameful accord, was to condemn the elimination of Bin Laden–this “crime” (as Hamas’s leader, Ismaël Haniyeh put it) which is right in line with the “policy of oppression” founded upon the “bloodbaths” of formerly colonized peoples. That says it all. And there is, not only in his words, but in the deafening silence that echoes them here, something devastatingly distressing.

    Levi compares the situation today with that of 1938, when the French Prime Minister (who accompanied Neville Chamberlain to Munich) returned home to France to cheering crowds:

    As France’s Prime Minister, Edouard Daladier accompanied Neville Chamberlain to Munich and acquiesced to the agreement with Hitler, though, personally, he had no illusions as to Hitler’s ultimate intentions. Returning to Paris, he glanced out the plane window at the cheering crowds and reportedly exclaimed

  • tim

    great article admin. Forwarded it to everyone on my email list.

    I like Trump, Cain and Palin. Cain is actually very much underestimated, now here’s a man, a black man with a degree in Mathematics and computer science. He’s I think mid 60s, actually suffered real racism, never played the victim card, built his career on competence.

    Frankly, if Waffles is relected, all hell will break loose by 2013, Trump is 100% correct, interest rates will shoot up, and those that don’t see it now, those businesses will be wiped out. This is why banks won’t lend and businesses won’t add to their rolls. And Waffles saying “companies need to hire” has created such backlash, especially from all the business people I know, its unbelievable how much this man is a marxist, he has no concept of what a business is.
    (check out the comments when CNBC did a story on this.
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43003679
    200+ comments, absolutely lashing out at the Wafflesman, sadly many of them voted for him)

    At this point, I am convinced if Waffles is relected, America will only be accelerating its downturn. Most business owners I know see this, and they are tempted just to do the John Gault thing, just don’t even fight it anymore, stop hiring, stop producing, etc. Its very depressing to see.

  • Shadowfax

    But it’s not just a Barack Obama Seal Team Six Action Figure. It comes with Michelle Obama arms and – no sleeves.

    OMG, this is so darn funny I almost have to get one to alter and put on my dashboard as a bobble head.

  • Shadowfax

    Admin, your post is great and so darn funny I almost can’t get though reading it….

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • jbstonesfan

    This is why I have said that it is over as faras 2012….they simply have no one to challenge Obama. I think he will win easier than he did against Mccain with the current bottom feeders running against him.

  • Shadowfax

    The Republican establishment has geared up to destroy Trump and Palin and Paul and eventually Cain and others. For what? Newt? Romney? Are Republicans Stupid – Or Crazy?

    ———-

    Ubama should just hand Republican’s a gun…

    so they can just shoot themselves in the feet…again,

    just like they did in 2008 when they advised crossing parties and pretend to support Hillary, then stay home in the General Election and not vote for the Republican candidate.

    How did that one work out for ya Republicans?

    Supreme Elite Stupidity!

  • S

    btw…has the repub party forgotten that Newt Gingrich had to step down as Speaker of the House because of his book scandal among other things…that quitter…

  • tim

    “This is why I have said that it is over as faras 2012″

    No it is not.

  • S

    jbstones…the bottom feeders may not get their chance…there can still be so many twists and turns…the race has not begun…much less over…we have not even gotten to the primaries…there is a revolution going on in the repub party…the karl roves may not have the power they think they have…do not give up so soon…

    if Bill Clinton had believed he could never beat Bush who was at 90% we would never have had Bill Clinton…and we had Bill for two terms…even with everything they threw at him…and Hillary

  • rgb44hrc

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    jbstonesfan
    May 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    This is why I have said that it is over as faras 2012….they simply have no one to challenge Obama. I think he will win easier than he did against Mccain with the current bottom feeders running against him.
    &&&&&&&

    You may say this is being “realistic”, but I see this as unproductive negativity.

    You say, “Obama is now at 60% approval”, to which I’d say, “you are promulgating the lie, that was one AP poll, and the Dem stats were drastically skewed”. Didn’t you read admin’s spiel in the previous thread.

    I know you don’t like Obama, and don’t want him elected, but I think you should be less absolutist about things that are two years off.

    Let’s work on exposing Obama’s flaws and his lies, so that he can’t win the Dem nomination, or lose the general.

    Remember, John Edwards was not outed for his transgressions, it was hidden. For a long time. Until it was not hidden. Then it all came spilling out, fast, real fast. Soon, all the MSM unearthed the info they were sitting on, having been scooped by a “yellow rag”. Ha ha, fuckers, you were exposed as Obama shills. You lost your credibility.

    So, jbstones, let’s at least admit the possibility that Obama will get fucked over, and not make.

    Flash back to 1972. Richard Nixon, unstoppable, unbeatable. Yet hubris did him in, and he was a disgraced man within two years.

    Kapische?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Rip Van Winkle, fresh out of KOOL-AID DETOX into a 12 step program.
    ________________________

    Has Matt Damon Lost His Passion for President Obama?

    http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/11/matt-damon-barack-obama/
    ____________________

    Someone please dribble some bread crumbs through the forest getting this fella home. :lol:

  • admin

    http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/05/insiders-rate-g.php

    At this early stage in the election cycle, political operatives in both parties believe that the Republican chances for winning back the Senate are relatively high, according to the latest National Journal Political Insiders Poll.

    Democrats thought there was a five-out-of-ten chance that the Republicans would net the four Senate seats they need to gain control of the chamber. To put that figure in perspective, back in 2006 when the Democrats picked up six seats and won the Senate majority, during the entire election cycle, Republican Insiders never rated the Democratic chances that good for taking over the Senate. And it wasn’t until an Insiders Poll conducted in mid-October of 2006 that even Democratic Insiders thought their chances of taking control were better than 50-50.

    Most of the Democratic pessimism and GOP optimism comes from the fact that Democrats must defend 23 Senate seats (including two currently held by independents who caucus with Democrats) while Republicans only have 10 seats up in this cycle. “Have you seen the map?” asked one Democratic Insider. “We have to win roughly three-fifths of all the races to maintain our edge. It may be a bridge too far.” Added another: “High unemployment and gas prices will really hurt the D’s, not to mention a slew of Senate [Democratic] incumbents up for re-elect in red-pink states.”

  • Mrs. Smith

    I wonder why Big Media covers for Obama?

    Well wonder no more:
    ___________________

    Why Don’t We Hear About Soros’ Ties to Over 30 Major News Organizations? Ties? How about SPONSORSHIP?

    Pt 1

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/11/dont-hear-george-soros-ties-30-major-news-organizations/#ixzz1M8trgdMt

  • nomobama

    This is another sign of the party establishment paying lip service to the people while they continue on their merry way of doing what THEY WANT to do, when THEY WANT to do it.

    I am all for an anti-establishment candidate. I am tired of the lies that are fed to the voters each election cycle, while these flim flam daddy long legs have no intention of doing what they say they are going to do. The game is old, and it’s time for new players, new rules, and hopefully better results.

  • Shadowfax

    Admin

    “High unemployment and gas prices will really hurt the D’s, not to mention a slew of Senate [Democratic] incumbents up for re-elect in red-pink states.”

    ………

    …plus all the homes that were bought with no money down and are now raising all the low interest rates that were first offered on the Titanic, causing more foreclosures.

    Folks without jobs, with no hope of having enough money to pay their mortgages, credit cards, send their kids to college (and now have to support them because they can’t find a job), and all the other financial disasters that have been happened to the working class and the unemployed since Barry was drug into DC on his paper mache donkey.

    Barry is riding ‘high’ because Binny is dead. That little rise will last as long as a one night stand.

    Barry will be back on the rack before you know it.

  • nomobama

    Mrs. Smith
    May 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
    ========================

    Does “ownership” fit in with any of these organizations?

  • admin

    Despite the hype, there is no Republican frontrunner. Let the voters decide, or else.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/romney-not-front-runner-no-one

    “In two Washington Post articles this morning Mitt Romney is referred to as the front-runner in the race for the Republican nomination. Why? On what basis?

    The first article, headlined “Romney has eye on one prize right now: money,” Dan Eggen and T. W. Farnam refer to Romney as “the presumed front-runner.” In a second article on page A4, headlined “Romney to confront his critics in a speech on health care,” Karen Tumulty more cautiously writes that Romney “is seen as a possible front-runner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination?”

    Presumed by whom? Seen by whom?

    In the realclearpolitics.com average of recent polls Romney gets 16.6% and Mike Huckabee 16.4%. They’re followed by Donald Trump with 12.9%, Sarah Palin with 10.6%, Newt Gingrich with 7.7%, etc. In polls conducted in April and May Romney gets between 11% and 19%. The way I read it he’s a contender, not a front-runner. And not necessarily a strong contender: with greater name recognition than some other potential candidates he’s not running far ahead of them.

    But wasn’t he the runner-up in the 2008 race for the Republican nomination, and don’t Republicans always nominate the candidate who was the runner-up last time? The answer to both questions is, not necessarily. Romney got more voters than any other candidate except John McCain in the 2008 Republican caucuses and primaries. But it wasn’t a close second: McCain got 42%, Romney got 21% and Mike Huckabee got 20%. And Huckabee actually got quite a lot more delegates (270) than Romney (189). So much for the idea that Romney was the clear runner-up.

    What about the tendency of docile, order-obsessed Republicans always voting for the candidate next in line? Well, I suppose the stereotype has some basis in fact. But, as I wrote in my April 26 Examiner column, there are only six cases since something like the current nominating system came into place in the 1970s of the Republicans nominating the next guy in line. And in all of these cases, I would argue, the nominee won because of other much more important factors or the nominee’s win was a very close run thing. Examples: [snip]

    What’s interesting here is that Mitt Romney’s current strategy, as described by Dan Eggen and T. W. Farnam, looks an awful lot like the McCain strategy of January to July 2007. But Eggen and Farnam don’t point that out. Romney like McCain in 2007 (or like Phil Gramm in 1995 or John Connally in 1979) may be able to raise huge amounts of money but that, as the examples of Gramm and Connally illustrate, doesn’t automatically translate into votes.

    Modest proposal: can we all agree to ban the label “front-runner” from coverage of the race for the 2012 Republican nomination, at least until someone wins enough votes and delegates to demonstrate that he or she really is the front-runner?”

  • nomobama

    jbstonesfan
    May 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    =============================

    You have to keep “hope” alive. :)

    It is possible that the “insider” information is actually true, and that Øbama will eventually be hung out to dry. I get this warm, fuzzy feeling when I read Ulsterman. I suspect a lot of truth is in what he writes, and that can only bring a smile to my face.

  • nomobama

    Admin, concerning your previous comment about GOP frontrunners, if I were contacted for that poll, I would be in a conundrum as far as who I would indicate that I would support. I really do like Sarah Palin, but I also would not have a problem supporting Donald Trump. It makes me wonder how many other people out there are torn between those two candidates. If one of them decides not to run, then I will easily move over to the other. The polls should ask for one’s first and second choices to provide a clearer picture of support.

  • SHV

    …plus all the homes that were bought with no money down and are now raising all the low interest rates that were first offered on the Titanic, causing more foreclosures.

    Folks without jobs, with no hope of having enough money to pay their mortgages,…
    ***********
    “If you’re looking to score a great deal on that cute little home, it turns out you may want to wait a little longer to buy — like until next year: U.S. home values dropped 3% in the first quarter, their sharpest quarter-over-quarter decline since the dark days of late 2008, according to the Zillow Home Value Index report released Monday.

    Based on those results, as well as increases in foreclosures and underwater mortgages, Zillow revised its forecast for when U.S. home values will bottom out. The real estate tracking service now expects home values won’t begin to recover until 2012 — at the earliest — instead of later this year.’

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/05/09/home-prices-plunge-zillow/

  • wbboei

    CRITICAL–CRITICAL–CRITICAL–CRITICAL–CRITICAL (Item 3!!!!)

    NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

    ADMIN: the Washington elites would have us believe that Trump is not a serious candidate, that he is only in it for the celebrity high (as if he needs more of that), and that he will throw in the towel now that Obama and his paid assassins took him to the woodshed at the Press Club event and its aftermath.

    This is an absurd hypothesis for the following reasons:

    1. first, Trump cannot throw in the towel. If he does, then the verdict big media has rendered against him will stand. His ego will not permit this, nor will his business interests. He is a fighter, Obama is not and that is all the advantage he needs.

    2. second, Trump was humiliated by Obama, savaged by big media and the comedian who Obama hired to kiss his ass and take down Trump called Trump “a joke” in front of his wife and the world. That comment put big media in stitches and Obama was quick to pile on. How did Trump respond? Is he throwing in the towel. Hardly. He is writing a book to address serious policy issues, to rebut the charge that he is a joke, and to prove to the world that he is running.

    3. Third, when Obama produced the long form birth certificate, he said with a victor’s smile I hope this will put an end to this issue. What he failed to realize was that what he produced–and vouched for is fraudulent on its face, for the following reasons:

    a. The birth certificate Obama produced and vouches for states that his father was a 25 years old and born in Kenya. That is a problem. Why? because the nation of Kenya did not exist at the time he was born.

    b. The birth certificate Obama produced and vouches for states that he was borne at a certain hospital which is identified by name. That too is a problem. Why? Because, name did not exist at the time he was born. It was created many years later when tow hospitals merged.

    c. The birth certificate Obama produced and vouches for identifies his race as African. That is also a problem. Why? Because there was not a racial description of “African” at the time he was borne. That is a geographic designation not a racial one. It was adopted several years later during the black power movement. The term used at the time Obama was borne to describe his father’s race was negroid.

    Conclusion: one document. Three glaring discrepancies. How can this be? There is only one coherent explanation. The long form birth certificate which Obama produced and vouched for was not prepared at the time of his birth, as a legitimate birth certificate would be, but many years later and whoever prepared this fraudulent birth certificate (the third one we have seen to date) was careless, and failed to consult history.

    This is powerful evidence. Why? Because it does not rely on the testimony of expert witnesses as the photo shopped charge does, and it cannot be dismissed as administrative error as the sequential numbering can. It is a matter of simple history and common sense which anyone can understand. Not one discrepancy but three and all of them in a single document. Three glaring discrepancies which our beloved big media did not bother to check.

    My friend discovered this bombshell last night. I will post below the email she sent to me. You should assume Trump is aware of this. This needs to go global asap so if any of you have media people to forward it to feel free to do so. Time is of the essence because this guy is lying with impunity now e.g. todays comment that the border fence is completed when in fact it is only 5% complete and the drug gangs are spilling over our border. Nobody but Trump has the cajones to challenge him least of all the pathetic Republican Party.

    ————————————————————–
    Bill,

    I found a few interesting facts about the Obama birth certificate. One of these things I found quite some time ago but that was before Donald Trump made the main stream headlines again. On the phony birth certificate from his original site and on the certificate just released some things are the same. One day, I decided out of boredom to go from item to item to see if I could find any new goodies. I found one item and then I saw on another blog another item which sounds good but I have not tried to verify it. I’ll tell you both.

    You know my ideas about Obama’s real birth place so I was never too interested in his phony certificate. However, I decided to see what I could learn about Kenya in 1961 and how accessible travel to and from Hawaii would have been. I had no success with the travel thing, but I did find out one interesting fact. Obama was born on August 4, 1961. The phony and most recent birth certificate both list Obama’s father as Barack Hussein Obama who was age 25 and born in Kenya, East Africa. As I said I couldn’t find out too much about travel to Kenya in 1961 for at least one very good reason…Kenya did not exist until 1963!!!! In 1961 what we now know as Kenya was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate.” That is all I found that was absolutely wrong taking the certificate at face value.

    Then I read one other thing on someone’s blog. I have since verified this through my own research. The current birth certificate lists the hospital of birth as the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. However, the blogger claims that in 1961 there were two hospitals or centers, which were called the “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and the “Kapiolani Maternity Home” respectively. These two hospitals eventually merged in 1978 (I did verify this fact) to become the Kapiolani Maternity& Gynecological Hospital. So how could Obama be born in a hospital in 1961 that technically did not exist until 1978? Not possible.

    Mara Zebest, a computer document expert, has taken a close look at the most released form and using a special computer program was able to deconstruct the document finding several errors.She lists several errors but the main one I found to be quite stupid if true is that she claims the file number on the birth certificate 61 10641which is supposed to reflect births in proper sequence is higher than a pair of twins she located born in Hawaii a day later than Obama. Unless the state can’t count, the Obama certificate file number should be lower because he was born first.

    Anyway,I can’t believe I missed the Kenya thing before the election!!!! It is so obvious and if anyone else in the world ie the media did the most rudimentary checks, they would have found it. What a lying, cheating scum we have as a President. And he is so arrogant!!!

    Thought you would enjoy these.

  • SHV

    or this:
    ************
    “US jobs report points to protracted downturn
    By Andre Damon
    7 May 2011

    The Labor Department said Friday that the US unemployment rate rose in April, but that the economy added more jobs than had previously been expected. Behind the increase in jobs, however, is a dismal and in many ways worsening employment situation, combined with a systematic attack on wages and social programs.

    The unemployment rate grew to 9 percent, up from 8.8 percent in March. The number of employees reported by businesses increased by 244,000, higher than the 185,000 that economists expected. This is still barely enough to keep up with the growth in the labor market.

    The Labor Department bases its estimate of the unemployment rate on a survey of households, while the payroll figure comes from a survey of businesses. Because of this, the two do not always move together.

    The 244,000 jobs created in April represent only a small portion of the jobs that were destroyed during the downturn. Since February 2010, the US economy has created 1.8 million jobs. But this figure pales in comparison with the 8.7 million jobs that were lost since the start of the recession.
    (snip)
    The report follows a string of dismal economic news. The Commerce Department said late last month that the US economy grew by 1.8 percent in the first quarter of 2011, significantly less than the 3.1 percent growth in the fourth quarter of last year and 4.5 percent in the third quarter of last year.

    Weekly initial jobless claims likewise continued to edge up. After dipping as low as 375,000 in late February, the figure shot up to 474,000 last week. This was the fourth consecutive week in which initial claims were over 400,000, generally considered a indicator of net job losses.

    The housing market, meanwhile, has continued to worsen. The S&P/Case-Shiller index of home prices in 20 major cities fell by 1.1 percent in February, the latest month for which information is available, according to figures released April 26. Nationwide, home values are down by 3.3 percent over the past year. Since the beginning of the housing market downturn in 2006, over $9 trillion has been wiped out from home values.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/jobs-m07.shtml

  • SHV

    or this:
    *********
    “No prospect of global “economic recovery”
    7 May 2011

    Any conception that the world economy would experience a “recovery” in the wake of the global financial crisis has been shattered by the latest figures coming from Britain and the United States.

    The British economy grew by only 0.5 percent in the first quarter of this year following a contraction of the same amount in the last quarter of 2010. The flatlining of the past six months has prompted warnings that Britain is on the edge of a “double dip recession.”

    In the US, the annualised growth rate for the first quarter was down to 1.8 percent, a decline from the 3.1 percent recorded in the previous quarter. Over the past year, the US economy has grown by only 2.3 percent, less than the 2.5 percent considered necessary just to keep pace with the expansion of the labour force.

    Fears of a global slowdown sparked sell-offs in equity and commodity markets this week as European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Tritchet indicated that an interest rate rise in June was unlikely because of the state of the European economy.

    The employment situation confronting American workers is a social disaster. The average time a worker stays unemployed is now 39 weeks—the longest period on record. Young people are especially hard hit. Last year the jobless rate for 16 to 24 year-olds was 18.4 percent—also a record high.

    The economic situation in both Britain and the US is marked by processes that have not been seen in the post-war period. In Britain, real earnings are set to contract for the fourth year in a row—the first time this has happened since the 1870s. Household disposable incomes are predicted to fall by 2 percent in real terms this year. Far from there being any return to “normal”, the financial situation remains extremely fragile with Bank of England Governor Mervyn King warning this week that any rise in long-term interest rates would have “severe” consequences.
    (snip)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/pers-m07.shtml

  • jbstonesfan

    Flash back to 1972. Richard Nixon, unstoppable, unbeatable. Yet hubris did him in, and he was a disgraced man within two years.

    Kapische?
    ===================

    The media hated Nixon and and were responsible through good investigative journalism to expose him. Today, the same media is a propaganda tool for Obama .

  • wbboei

    No prospect of global “economic recovery”
    7 May 2011
    ——————
    This article is materially misleading . . . China and India are growing–by leaps and bounds–in the 7 to 9% range. So there is a global recovery but it does not inure to the benefit of the western democracies. High cost of living, heavy regulations, tax policy and worst of all free trade has done em in. I knew this would happen years ago and tried to do something about is with congressmen and columnists for major newspapers. No sale. Doors were slammed in my face. Well . . . seeing is believing–perhaps. With these people you never know whether clear cogent and convincing proof is persuasive.

  • wbboei

    The media hated Nixon and and were responsible through good investigative journalism to expose him. Today, the same media is a propaganda tool for Obama .
    ————————–
    There is always a tipping point. For Bush it was Katrina. For this guy, it could yet be the birth certificate, supra. Yeats said it best: everything changes like the waters.

  • wbboei

    “US jobs report points to protracted downturn
    By Andre Damon
    7 May 2011
    ——————–
    That I agree with. And that will be Obama’s undoing.

  • admin

    What we warned about repeatedly early in 2009 during the TARP/stimulus fights – Nina Easton on why Obama could lose:

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/09/news/economy/obama_inflation_threat.fortune/index.htm

    We haven’t experienced real inflation in more than a generation, so this economic blight is mostly an uncertain stranger to pollsters and political strategists — as well as to voters under 50. But if inflation warnings are right, this stranger could become the dark horse of the 2012 election and beyond.

    We know that inflation distorts economic behavior. In the 1970s a combination of high tax rates and inflation prompted investors to flee production in favor of protection. “Give me shelter,” recalls Michael Barone, principal co-author of the annual Almanac of American Politics, referring to not only tax behavior but also investments in assets like real estate to beat inflation rates. But inflation also affects voting behavior — and could exacerbate already widespread anxiety and uncertainty about a struggling economy and President Obama’s reaction to it. With rising prices on everything from big-ticket items like college tuition to food and gas, consumers “feel they don’t have any safe ground to stand on,” Barone notes.

    As both President Carter and the late President Ford could attest, that’s not a good place for an incumbent to be. John Huizinga, an economist at the University of Chicago, rightly notes that while unemployment affects some people — and rattles many more — “inflation affects everyone.” Huizinga co-authored a 1982 study that opened with the conventional wisdom of that era: “It is well known … that the public regards inflation as a more serious problem than unemployment.” Looking back, that seems astonishing. While the double-digit inflation of the 1970s had inched down to 8%, unemployment at that time was still a whopping 9.7%.

    By historical standards, the latest consumer price index showing a 1.2% annual rise remains super low. But consumers are being hit with hikes to two key components that aren’t included in that number — gas and food. Consumer Growth Partners recently called the rise in grocery prices (6.5% in the first quarter) “the sharpest in a generation.” And gas prices are pushing toward $4 a gallon. Including gas and food, the annual inflation rate is more than double the rise in the CPI.

    Even if systemwide inflation doesn’t return in this election cycle, rising gas and food prices will be on the minds of voters. President Obama already faces an unemployment rate that has only recently slipped below 9%, worsened by long-term jobless rates unprecedented since World War II. The Congressional Budget Office now predicts an unemployment rate of 8.2% on Election Day 2012; no President since F.D.R. has been reelected with unemployment over 8%. (President Reagan, facing a similarly painful recession, was elected with a 7.2% jobless rate.)

    Add inflation to that mix and it could become a poisonous stew for Democrats.

  • admin

    Didn’t we write this several weeks ago? – Obama lover Joe Klein is not too sure about 2012:

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2070953,00.html

    Many of the more serious (Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, Newt Gingrich) and less serious (Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich) Republican candidates weren’t there — and so it would be unfair to compare the Republican punytude with the massive presidentiality of Obama during his strongest week. [snip]

    But my third reaction to the Republican debate cuts in the opposite direction. By depriving the Republicans of the birth-certificate and tough-on-terrorism issues in a single week, Obama may ultimately force them to spend most of their time discussing the weakest point of his presidency: the economy. My colleague Mark Halperin has observed that when Trump talks about something other than the President’s birth certificate (or himself), he strikes some very resonant chords. He wants to slap tariffs on the Chinese, and he’s mad as hell about gasoline prices (and wants to seize the Iraqi oil fields). This is the other side of the President’s reserve: he won’t demagogue those issues, or even talk about them very much.

    I came into presidential politics with Jimmy Carter, and I’ll never forget his staff’s derision of a certain washed-up actor-extremist from California named Ronald Reagan. Similarly, I remember the Democratic Party’s despair in 1992, especially after Bill Clinton was linked, lubriciously, to a lounge singer named Gennifer Flowers. Carter had brought Israel and Egypt together. George H.W. Bush had beaten Saddam Hussein and retaken Kuwait; his popularity rating stood at 90%. But both Carter and Bush were beaten by a bum economy.

    Obama could lose too, even to someone who seems silly to fusty opinionators like me. He could lose if he keeps playing on the Republican field — deficits — rather than in the arena preferred by most Americans: the sputtering economy. He needs some big, new, easy-to-understand economic initiatives. He could lose if he doesn’t remind the public that he cut their taxes, as promised, and their Medicare drug bills. He also has to prove that, despite the bailouts, he’s not Wall Street’s sucker.

    There is a grand history of populist loudmouths like Trump making an early impression in presidential campaigns: Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson and Howard Dean all had their moments. And so did John McCain, who lost his shot in 2008 when the financial crisis came and he didn’t know how to react. Obama was calm under fire then, and ever since. It is why he’s likely to be re-elected: we prefer Presidents who are adults over those who are angry. But he is certainly not a lock.

  • wbboei

    klein is a proven liar, and a lightweight to boot. From Wiki:
    ——————————————————–
    In January 1996, Klein anonymously published the novel Primary Colors: A Novel of Politics, based on the 1992 Democratic presidential primary. The book spent nine weeks as number one on the New York Times bestseller list, with its author listed as “Anonymous”. Several people, including former Clinton speechwriter David Kusnet and, later, Vassar professor Donald Foster correctly identified Klein as the novel’s author, based on a literary analysis of the book and Klein’s previous writing. Klein denied writing the book and publicly condemned Foster.[2][3] Klein denied authorship again in Newsweek, speculating that another writer wrote it. Washington Post Style editor David von Drehle, in an interview, asked Klein if he was willing to stake his journalistic credibility on his denial, to which Klein agreed.[4] On July 17, 1996, Klein admitted that the speculation had been correct.[5]

  • wbboei

    I have said it before–it is beyond my comprehension that a dirt bag like Kein could insinuate themselves unto the Council of Foreign Relations. George Kennan must be turning over in his grave to have this little nevish on that august body which he helped found.

  • wbboei

    the public regards inflation as a more serious problem than unemployment.
    ———————–
    Short sighted.

  • turndownobama

    political operatives in both parties believe that the Republican chances for winning back the Senate are relatively high

    ===============

    Great. Then they defund Planned Parenthood, dismantle Medicare….

  • turndownobama

    [Obama cut] their Medicare drug bills.

    ===============

    Really? By how much, compared to what we were saving by buying drugs from Canada — which Obama outlawed.

  • turndownobama

    From Crawdad Hole:
    John McCain in an Op ed this morning skewered the claim that the killing of Bin Laden vindicates torture. But just now, on the Senate floor, he uncorked a new broadside that is quite remarkable, taking direct aim at Bush apologists who are reviving this debate in order to claim Bin Laden’s death as part of the Bush legacy. McCain added new information that amplifies his case, and called on former Bush attorney general Michael Mukasey — whose recent op ed claiming torture led to Bin Laden has been widely cited by the right — to retract his claims.

  • turndownobama

    [Obama cut] their taxes.

    —————

    Reallly? Meaning their contributions to their own Social Security (FICA)? But eliminated the work incentive (“Making Work Pay”) — which totals out to a SMALLER paycheck and LESS Social Security benefits in future. ALso it helps make SS look worse on the books.

  • Mike Marks

    WBBOEI at 11:36 PM

    I believe Kenya achieved independence in 1963, but was known as Kenya long before that. This can be confirmed by this map of 1950′s Africa:

    http://www.mapsales.com/cartoviewer/cartoviewer.aspx?closewindow=true&path=africa-1950&title=Africa%201950%20Wall%20Map&zoom=http://www.mapsales.com/products/NG/images/zoom/africa-1950.gif

    I also remember that the opening of “Sheena – Queen of the Jungle,” a 1950′s TV series, showed a map of Africa and closed in on Kenya, where the show supposedly took place.

  • turndownobama

    BBC:
    nations are racing to “carve up” Arctic resources – oil, gas and even rubies – as the ice retreats.
    They suggest that Arctic states, including the US and Russia, are all pushing to stake a claim.
    The opportunity to exploit resources has come because of a dramatic fall in the amount of ice in the Arctic.

    =============

    Just a hoax, faked measurements….

  • Betty

    I like that Donald Trump said that if we have another market crash it will be because of Obama. I think the manipulated market crash and the media’s reporting everything McCain did as stupid and everything Obama did as 11 dimensional checkers is what defeated the McCain/Palin ticket.
    So if Donald Trump can take that tool away from Obama we all will be a lot better off.

  • wbboei

    Mike Marks
    May 13th, 2011 at 3:57 am
    ======================
    Thanks Mike. I asked the question myself, looked for a map and could not find one. Being a nationalist, he would be inclined to use the African name, which as you point out to me now, appears on the map, rather than the name of the British colony which he despised if Ayers book Dreams of My Father is any indication. Hence THAT discrepancy may be explained. One down two to go. Any reaction to the other two “discrepancies”? I would rather have the attack rest on external discrepancies, because if it is predicated solely on solely on forensic evidence we must assume that they will produce their own expert in which case it will boil down to a battle of the experts, and as the O J Simpson case points up when Marcia Clark and Chris Darden and the nit wit DA they worked for introduces extensive DNA evidence and built their entire case around it, and the dream team abulance chasers (excluding Shapiro who is a class act) played the race card before an all black jury, a guilty murder walked to the wild cheers of big media and the black community. The same factors are in play here. But thanks again Mike. I do appreciate it/

  • Mrs. Smith

    You know it’s Friday the 13th-

    Obama’s nefarious activities know no bounds..
    ______________________

    Obama’s newest ambush

    By Caroline B. Glick

    It is hard to believe, but it appears that in the wake of the Palestinian unity deal that brings the genocidal, al Qaida-aligned, local franchise of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Hamas into a partnership with Fatah, US President Barack Obama has decided to open a new round of pressure on Israel to give away its land and national rights to the Palestinians. It is hard to believe that this is the case. But apparently it is.

    On Wednesday The Wall Street Journal reported that while Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is in Washington next week, and before the premier has a chance to give his scheduled address to a joint session of Congress, Obama will give a new speech to the Arab world. In that speech, Obama will praise the populist movements that have risen up against Arab tyrannies and embrace them as the model for the future. As for Israel, the report claimed that the Obama administration is still trying to decide whether the time is right to put the screws on Israel once more.

    On the one hand, Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes told the Journal that Arab leaders are clamoring for a new US initiative to force Israel to make new concessions. Joining this supposed clamor are the administration-allied pro-Palestinian lobby J-Street, and the administration-allied New York Times.

    On the other hand, the Netanyahu government and the US Congress are calling for a US aid cut-off to the Palestinian Authority. With Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization now partnering with Fatah in governing the PA, it is illegal for the US government to continue to have anything to do with the PA. Both the Netanyahu government and senior members of the House and Senate are arguing forcefully that there is no way for Israel to make peace with the Palestinians now and that the US must abandon its efforts to force the sides to sign an agreement.

    The Israeli and Congressional arguments are certainly compelling. But the signals emanating from the White House and its allied media indicate that Obama is ready to plough forward in spite of them. With the new international security credibility he earned by overseeing the successful assassination of Osama Bin Laden, Obama apparently believes that he can withstand Congressional pressure and make the case for demanding that Israel surrender Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria to Hamas and its partners in Fatah.

    The signals that Obama is setting his sights on coercing Israel into agreeing to surrender its capital and heartland to Hamas and its partners in Fatah came in three forms this week. First, administration officials are trying to lower the bar that Hamas needs to pass in order to be considered a legitimate political force.

    After Fatah and Hamas signed their first unity deal in March 2007, the US and its colleagues in the so-called Middle East Quartet – Russia, the EU and the UN – set three conditions that Hamas needed to meet in order to be accepted by them as legitimate. It needed to recognize Israel’s right to exist, agree to respect existing agreements with Israel and renounce terrorism.

    These are not difficult conditions. Fatah is perceived as having met them even though it is still a terrorist organization and its leaders refuse to accept Israel’s right to exist and refuse to abide by any of the major commitments they took upon themselves in precious agreements with Israel. Hamas could easily follow Fatah’s lead.

    But Hamas refuses. So speaking to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius two weeks ago, administration officials lowered the bar. They said Hamas had made major concessions to Fatah in the agreement because it agreed to accept provisions of the 2009 unity deal drafted by the Mubarak government that it rejected two year ago and because Hamas agreed that the unity government will be manned by “technocrats” rather than terrorists.

    Even if these contentions are true, they are completely ridiculous. In point of fact, all the 2009 agreement says is that Hamas will refrain from demanding to join the US-trained and funded Fatah army in Judea and Samaria. As for the “technocratic” government, who does the Obama administration think will control these “technocrats”?

    And as to the truth of these contentions, in an interview last week with the New York Times, Hamas terror-master Khaled Mashal denied that he had agreed to the terms of the 2009 agreement. Indeed, he said that Fatah agreed to add annexes to the agreement reflecting Hamas’s positions.

    The second pitch the administration and its friends have adopted ahead of Obama’s address next week is that Hamas has become more moderate or may become more moderate. Robert Malley, who in the past advised Obama’s presidential campaign made this argument last week in an op-ed in the Washington Post. Malley claimed that by joining the government, Hamas will be more moved by US pressure. A New York Times editorial last Saturday argued that Hamas may have moderated, and even if it hasn’t, “Washington needs to press Mr. Netanyahu back to the peace table.”

    Adding their voices to the din, Middle Eastern leaders like Amr Mussa, the frontrunner to serve as Egypt’s next president and Turkish Prime Minister Recip Erdogan have given interviews to the US media this week in which they denied that Hamas is even a terrorist organization.

    Here it is important to note that none of the administration’s statements about the Hamas-Fatah deal and none of the media coverage related to it have included any mention of the fact that has deliberately murders entire families and targets children specifically. No one mentions last month’s Hamas guided rocket attack which deliberately targeted an Israeli school bus. Hamas murdered 16-year-old Daniel Viflic in that attack. No one has mentioned the caf� massacres, the bus bombings, the university campus massacres, the breaking into homes massacres, the Passover seder massacres Hamas has carried out and bragged about in recent years. No one has mentioned that when seen as a portion of the population, Hamas has killed far more Israelis than al Qaida has killed Americans.

    The final pitch the administration and its surrogates are making is that the deal needs to be seen as part of the overall regional shift towards popular rule. This pitch too is difficult to make. After all, the first casualty of the Arab world’s shift towards popular rule is the 30-year old Camp David peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Now that Egypt’s citizens have gotten rid of US-ally Hosni Mubarak, they have committed themselves to getting rid of the peace he upheld with Israel throughout his long reign.

    Again, despite the difficulties, the Obama administration is clearly willing to make the case. Regarding Egypt, they argue that the Muslim Brotherhood’s rise to power is a good. This was the point of Obama’s Passover and Israel Independence Day messages.

    As for the regional shift, the fact that Obama reportedly intends to place the so-called Palestinian-Israeli peace process into the regional context signals that he sees potential for an agreement between Israel and Syria as well. His advisors telegraphed this view to Ignatius. Obama’s advisors made the unlikely argument that if Syrian leader Bashar Assad survives the popular demonstrations calling for his overthrow, he will feel compelled to distance his regime from Iran because his Sunni-majority population has been critical of his alliance with the Shiite mullocracy.

    This argument is unlikely given that the same officials recognize that if Assad survives, his will owe his regime’s survival to Iran. As they reminded Ignatius, US intelligence officials reported last month that Iran has “secretly supplied Assad with tear gas, anti-riot gear and other tools of suppression.”

    What is perhaps most remarkable about Obama’s apparent plan to use the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as an excuse for a new round of diplomatic warfare against Israel is how poorly coordinated his steps have been with the PLO-Fatah. Abbas and his predecessor Yassir Arafat always viewed the US obsession with getting the Arabs and Israel to sign peace treaties as a strategic asset. Anytime they wanted to weaken Israel, they just needed to sound the fake peace drum loudly enough to get the White House’s attention. US presidents looking for the opportunity to “make history” were always ready to take their bait.

    Unlike his predecessors, Obama’s interest in the Palestinians is not opportunistic. He is a true believer. And because of his deep-seated commitment to the Palestinians, his policies are even more radically anti-Israel than the PLO-Fatah’s. It was Obama, not Abbas who demanded that Jews be barred from building anything in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. It is the Obama administration, not the PLO-Fatah that is leading the charge to embrace the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Like his belated move to demand a permanent abrogation of Jewish property rights in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, Abbas arguably embraced Hamas because Obama left him no choice. He has no interest in making peace with Israel, so the only thing he can do under the circumstances Obama has created is embrace Hamas. He can’t be less pro-Islamic than the US President.

    All of this brings us to Netanyahu and his trip to Washington next week. Obviously Obama’s decision to upstage the premier with his new outreach-to-the-Arab-world speech will make Netanyahu’s visit more challenging than it was already going to be.

    Obama is clearly betting that by moving first, he will be able to coerce Netanyahu to make still more concessions of land and principles. Certainly, Netanyahu’s earlier decisions to cave to Obama’s pressure with his acceptance of Palestinian statehood and his subsequent acceptance of a Jewish building freeze give Obama good reason to believe he can back Netanyahu into a corner. Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s hysterical warnings about a diplomatic “tsunami” at the UN in September if Israel fails to capitulate to Obama today no doubt add to Obama’s sense that he can expect Netanyahu to dance to his drums, no matter how hostile the beat.

    But Netanyahu doesn’t have to give in. He can stick to his guns and defend the country. He can continue on the correct path he has forged of repeating the truth about Hamas. He can warn about the growing threat of Egypt. He can describe the Iranian-supported butchery Assad is carrying out against his own people and note that a regime that murders its own will not make peace with the Jewish state. And he can point out the fact that as a capitalist, liberal democracy which protects the lives and property of its citizens, Israel is the only stable country in the region and the US’s only reliable regional ally.

    True, if Netanyahu does these things, he will not win himself any friends in the White House. But he never had a chance of winning Obama and his advisors over anyway. He will empower Israel’s allies in Congress though. And more importantly, whether he is loved or hated in Washington, if Netanyahu does these things, he will be able to return home to Jerusalem with the sure knowledge that he earned his salary this month.

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0511/glick051311.php3

  • wbboei

    The nit wit DA was Gale Garcetti. If Vincent Bugliosi had handled that case I believe it would have turned out differently. It Robert Keane had been the judge instead of that limp dick Ito then ditto. At the end of the trial and the successful verdict, Robert Shapiro had this to say about his colleagues–they played the race card from the bottom of the deck. Then as now. Only now the race hustlers do not have an all black jury to bamboozle. But they do have a throughly corrupt big media which posts phony stories, then take phony polls, then write phony headlines based on those phony polls.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “The Israeli and Congressional arguments are certainly compelling. But the signals emanating from the White House and its allied media indicate that Obama is ready to plough forward in spite of them. With the new international security credibility he earned by overseeing the successful assassination of Osama Bin Laden, Obama apparently believes that he can withstand Congressional pressure and make the case for demanding that Israel surrender Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria to Hamas and its partners in Fatah.”
    ___________________

    The US Jewish communities have to storm their Congressional Representatives with inglorious outrage. Turnover Jerusalem to PA?
    Are these people nuts?

  • Lu4PUMA

    Trump trumps BO, but not Hillary. I think they are going to decide what they are going to do when they are sure the Dimocrats will not figure a way to run HRC in place of BO during 2012.

    The Dimocrats sent me a survey about 2012. Guess what I told them.

    http://my.democrats.org/page/s/2011priorities

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin: video worth a repost. (It’d NOT going away!)

    Drudge is headlining 9/11 victim’s mantra, TOO much Obama at GZ..
    ___________________

    Father Of 9/11 Victim: Obama “Putting Too Much Spotlight On Himself”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/05/05/father_of_911_victim_obama_putting_too_much_spotlight_on_himself.html

    David Beamer, father of 9/11 victim Todd Beamer on FOX News: “I feel some chagrin now, though, about how the rest of it has been handled. And frankly it started May Day, 2011 when the president announced what had happened. The excessive use of the personal pronoun that he used in his remarks, I really felt that was the beginning of the Commander-in-Chief putting too much spotlight on himself, taking too much credit for what the remarkable Americans had done. And of course it’s only now accelerated to a greater degree in the media. “

  • turndownobama

    One down two to go. Any reaction to the other two “discrepancies”?

    ============================

    The hospital name might be like that too: a term in use casually before it became official. As for ‘African’, that might be something BO Sr and/or Stanley Ann preferred to ‘negro’.

    The first question would be, who customarily filled out those items in the 1960s? When? The father, the mother, staff?

    Anyway, it’s more likely that odd answers would come from the flakey BO Sr or a young wife in labor — than that the White House would make obvious mistakes on a forgery they’ve had years to work on.

  • turndownobama

    I also remember that the opening of “Sheena – Queen of the Jungle,” a 1950’s TV series, showed a map of Africa and closed in on Kenya, where the show supposedly took place.

    ===================

    Heh. Now that’s my kind of evidence. ;-) Something used in popular fiction — shows what the public was likely to credit at that time.

  • Mrs. Smith

    That pesky Long Form Birth Certificate (forgery) is NOT going away!
    _____________________________

    New ‘birth certificate’ anomalies inexplicable

    May 13, 2011

    Growing question list feeds worries document is ‘crude’ computer forgery…

    A growing list of apparent anomalies in the Obama long-form birth certificate released by the White House continues to fuel suspicion that the document is a crude, computer-generated forgery.

    The Hawaii Department of Health and the White House have insisted that the document made public April 27 after nearly three years of public demand is genuine.

    Web document experts, however, have questioned the document’s authenticity, and now a close inspection of the Hawaii Department of Health state registrar’s stamp on the birth records reveals an apparent typographical error.

    The stamp, affixed April 25, 2011, says “TXE RECORD.”

    Yet, on a copy of a Hawaii long-form birth certificate issued only one month earlier, the stamp says “THE RECORD.”

    WND has the complete rundown of the stupid blunders made by the amateur WH forgers at link.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=298101

  • JanH

    “The signals that Obama is setting his sights on coercing Israel into agreeing to surrender its capital and heartland to Hamas and its partners in Fatah”

    ————————
    First, Netanyahu is not a stupid man. Israel has a second to none intelligence service that knows exactly what obama-enemy-of-state is up to.

    Second, I just knew that bin laden’s death would result in Israel beng shoved around again. What else can bambi do but promise the moon again to his Islamist-terrorist buddies?

    Third, If I were Bibi, I would have his proposal leaked to the media prior to obama’s umpteenth treasonous speech love-in for these same buddies.

    And finally, if Israel gives up the holy city, it might as well just pack it’s back and run for the hills. And what may I ask have the Palestinians given up?

  • JanH

    “might as well just pack it in and run for the hills”

  • JanH

    It must be in the water because for the life of me, I can understand this “pleased with obama” nonsense.

    —————–

    If pushed to choose Obama successor, Iowa Dems lean to Hillary

    May 12, 2011 |

    Most Iowa Democrats are pleased with President Obama’s performance, and they don’t want to see him challenged in a 2012 primary, but their favorite choice to succeed him is Hillary Clinton, a new poll finds.

    The poll, performed by Public Policy Polling of North Carolina, found that 79 percent of Iowa Democrats approve of Obama’s performance. Sixty-six percent said they would vote for him if he were challenged in a primary by a Democrat who is more liberal or more conservative to him. There has been little serious talk of such a challenge.

    Poll participants were given a list of eight possible Democratic candidates to succeed Obama after he leaves office, which would be in 2017 if he wins the 2012 election. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won support from 44 percent, followed by Vice President Joe Biden at 13 percent, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo at 7 percent, former Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold at 5 percent, Oprah Winfrey at 4 percent, Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker at 3 percent, and Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer and Virginia Sen. Mark Warner at 1 percent each. Twenty-one percent were not sure or would prefer someone else.

    Of course, if someone had done such a survey in 2003, the list of possible 2008 candidates surely would not have included an Illinois state senator named Obama. Odds are that someone now toiling in obscurity will rise to become a major candidate by 2016.

    For the new poll, surveyors talked to 484 Iowa Democratic primary voters in mid-April. The

    survey’s margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

    http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/12/if-pushed-to-choose-obama-successor-iowa-dems-lean-to-hillary/

  • JanH

    Hillary Clinton-With a Little Respect-We Need You Now-Run 2012


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  • Mrs. Smith

    I empathize with you Jan- I can’t imagine Bibi giving up Jerusalem to anyone much less Palestine. The push for a takeover of the Holy City has been foretold in the scriptures. If it should ever happen; it will be the trigger for Armageddon.

    As I understand it, the Holy Rock I posted about quite awhile ago is the jewel the PA has longed to destroy. And if that should happen, Armageddon will follow.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “If pushed to choose Obama successor, Iowa Dems lean to Hillary”
    _____________

    Sounds like planted information to me.. Their favorite thing.

    Pouring salt in a wound-

    Still shaking the bushes seeing if Hillary is a stealth candidate who will surface at the 11th hour to primary him.

  • turndownobama

    Obama didn’t need to work for passing what GOP big donors wanted, just stayed out of the way while they pressured Congressmen.

    Maybe President Romney’s job too would be to stay out of the way — after blocking populist candidates like Trump or Palin.

  • turndownobama

    Poll participants were given a list of eight possible Democratic candidates to succeed Obama after he leaves office, which would be in 2017 if he wins the 2012 election. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won support from 44 percent, followed by Vice President Joe Biden at 13 percent

    ====================

    So there’s 57 percent of those voters not worried about age.

  • SHV

    I also remember that the opening of “Sheena – Queen of the Jungle,” a 1950’s TV series, showed a map of Africa and closed in on Kenya,
    **********
    That bit geography in East Africa has been known as Kenya, with that spelling, since the British East Africa Company took it over from the Germans in the late 1880s.

  • turndownobama

    WND has the complete rundown of the stupid blunders made by the amateur WH forgers at link.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=298101

    ====================

    Crazy claim. WH could have hired better forgers.

    Or rather, the HI records people could have made a better forgery. Didn’t the HI records office put up something on their website confirming they had supplied this? Also a letter went out saying they had made a special ‘dispensation.’

    WND is crazy.

  • turndownobama

    what we now know as Kenya was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate.”

    =====================

    Too long to fit in the form.

  • wbboei

    That bit geography in East Africa has been known as Kenya, with that spelling, since the British East Africa Company took it over from the Germans in the late 1880s.
    ============================
    Then that dog won’t hunt. Any thoughts on the remaining two arguments–the identity of the hospital and the racial designation???

  • turndownobama

    If we accept the lfbc as legitimate and harmless, then the question becomes: Why did he fight the lawsuits for two years instead of releasing it immediately? Did the lawsuits also demand something he really wanted to hide?

    Or did he spend that much money on lawyers and let others spend much time and energy on the issue, just as some sort of public relations trick, distraction, trap for ‘birthers’?

  • admin

    Senator Ryan? Wisconsin will not let go of the limelight:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/herb-kohl-to-retire/2011/05/13/AFcfOS2G_blog.html

    Wisconsin Sen. Herb Kohl will announce his retirement today according to an informed Democratic source, a decision that sets up a competitive open seat contest in a state that has already drawn considerable national attention this year.

    Kohl, who is in his fourth term, will make it official this morning with a noon announcement in Wisconsin, the source said. His office did not return an email seeking comment.

    Kohl is the sixth Democratic-aligned Senator to step aside in advance of the 2012 election. Two Republicans aren’t running for reelection next year. [snip]

    National Republican Senatorial Committee spokesman Brian Walsh said in a statement that Kohl’s retirement “immediately presents another key opportunity for Senate Republicans next year.”

    For Republicans, the obvious name is Rep. Paul Ryan, the architect of House Republicans’ controversial budget plan. It’s not clear whether Ryan wants to leave his perch as chairman of the House Budget Commtitee to make a statewide run, however.

  • wbboei

    Our friend Ani wrote a great blog on No Quarter noting the puff pieces the Hillary hating media, in this case the detestable Johnathan Alter among others, is now publishing favorable articles which border on puff pieces about Hillary.

    Why now?

    One theory is that they are offering Hillary a deal whereby she supports Obama again in 2012 and in return they will support her in 2012. If that is indeed their goal then I agree with Ani that this deal is illusory and not to be trusted.

    Let me suggest an alternative theory which I posted at that venue in response. I have no direct evidence to support this theory but it does make sense to me:

    Ani–I am reasonably certain that Alter was ordered to write this article by the editor of Newsweek who discussed the matter with the White House prior to doing so.

    Having assured themselves that she would not run against him, they moved to a secondary objective which is to lure her supporters back to the party.

    Their thinking is that if we say nice things about her now her supporters will forget the slander and scorn we heaped upon her and them during the 2008 campaign.

    I cannot speak for Hillary but as far as I am concerned they are wasting their breath, What they did was and is unforgotten and unforgiven,

  • wbboei

    Kohl,
    —————–
    Seems like their is a toilet seat company by that name out of Wisconsin. If so then I assume he is an heir to that fortune and all that goes with it.

  • turndownobama

    I said:
    Maybe President Romney’s job too would be to stay out of the way — after blocking populist candidates like Trump or Palin.

    What I meant was that maybe the GOP fatcats don’t want a candidate who could defeat Obama, they’re happy with Obama doing their dirty work. They just want a candidate (Romney etc) to block Trump or Palin from getting the GOP nomination.

  • wbboei

    f we accept the lfbc as legitimate and harmless
    ————————–
    Why concede that point when there is strong evidence that is was fabricated? The very fact that big media wants us to is sufficient to convince me to dig in. The forensic evidence of photo shopping, the remaining discrepancies on the face of the document provide a sufficient basis to hold the line and continue to question his legitimacy. At some point, we are bound to strike oil, unless we allow someone we do not trust who has a contingent claim of their own on the same site, to convince us it is a dry well.

  • wbboei

    f pushed to choose Obama successor, Iowa Dems lean to Hillary
    ———————–
    It is all bullshit… This is how it looked before in early 2008. What we have learned since then is that is NOT where the game is at. It is an inside game. And Hillary will never be acceptable to the elites unless she abandons the middle class. That is the dilemma she is faced with. That plus her age is why this is all smoke and mirrors. Do not believe it. This is pure propaganda aimed at her supporters.

  • wbboei

    Six years out and they are conducting polls in Iowa on who his successor will be? Is there any doubt in your mind that this is propaganda–to induce her supporters to fall in line for Obama in 2012?

  • Mrs. Smith

    FYI- WND’s info is always documented with legitimate names and tangible hard evidence. This article happens to be co-written and researched by our friend, Brenda Elliot from BHO.
    ________________________

    Obama adviser compared U.S. Christians to al-Qaida

    Also likened feared terror group to Jewish ‘totalitarians’ in Israel

    May 13, 2011

    By Aaron Klein
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    Eboo Patel

    JERUSALEM – President Obama’s faith adviser, Eboo Patel, compared al-Qaida to what he called Christian “totalitarians” in the U.S. and Jewish “totalitarians” in Israel, WND has learned.

    In February 2010, Obama named Patel to his Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

    Patel, a Muslim activist from Chicago, is the founder and executive director of Chicago-based Interfaith Youth Core, which says it promotes pluralism by teaming people of different faiths on service projects.

    Find out what Islam has planned for you: Get “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America.”

    In an October 2009 article in a Newtopia Magazine, a liberal cultural publication, Obama’s faith adviser made the controversial comparison. The article was adapted from the text of a speech given by Patel to the Interfaith Education for a Global Society Conference in New York City in January 2002.

    Stated Patel: “The problem is that we live in a time when the Muslim totalitarians are dominating. Why? Because they are building powerful institutions that propagate their interpretation of Islam – just as the Christian totalitarians in America have powerful institutions; and the Jewish totalitarians in Israel have powerful institutions; and the Hindu totalitarians in India have powerful institutions.

    “What do I mean by institutions?” asked Patel. “Lobbying groups that pass policies, political organizations that get people elected, television and radio and magazines and publishing houses which articulate ideas, schools and universities, youth organizations and women’s groups, bodies which raise and distribute money.”
    Patel then stated, “Al-Qaida is a network of institutions. Schools and mosques which teach 8-year-olds a certain ideology; organizations which lead them to Afghanistan; training camps which make them soldiers; manuals which offer advice on the prayers to whisper while engaging in violence. The religious identity – which is to say, the ways of being, believing and belonging in relation with the transcendent – of too many young Muslims is being shaped by these institutions.”

    Patel explained his reference to Christian “totalitarianism” stems from a piece by New York Times Foreign Affairs columnist Thomas Friedman who wrote that World War III will be fought against “religious totalitarianism.”

    “Religious totalitarianism is not just the belief that one religion is right,” added Patel, “but also that there is only one correct interpretation of that religion and everyone should practice it or else.”

    Patel failed to explain that so-called Muslim totalitarians, like al-Qaida, use terrorism to spread their belief system.

    American freedom, equality are just ‘myths’

    The Obama faith adviser recently has made other controversial remarks.

    WND reported last week Patel blasted what he called the “myths” of America – describing them as beliefs that the country is “a land of freedom and equality and justice.”

    Patel explained how he used the “faith-based movement” to channel his rage at America “in a direction far more compassionate and far more merciful.”

    Patel further implied that had he grown up in the 1960s, he may have joined the Weather Underground terrorist group led by William Ayers.

    Like Obama, Patel is deeply tied to Ayers.

    In a 2007 interview with NPR to promote a book he wrote that year, Patel was asked about his “affinity” toward the radicalism of Ayers, as described in the book.

    Patel replied that his own life story “is much closer to Bill Ayers,” explaining he “grew up in the same hometown” that Ayers did.

    Continued Patel: “I was kind of taught the same myths about America, a land of freedom and equality and justice, et cetera, et cetera.”

    “And then, when I got to college, I saw people eating out of garbage cans for dinner, and I saw Vietnam vets drinking mouthwash for the alcohol, and I thought to myself, this is not the myth that I grew up with. And, in a way, I was so, I think, immature at that time politically, that all I could do was rage.”

    Patel explained how he used religion to channel his rage toward America.

    “And it was a faith-based movement that came into my life that kind of directed that rage in a direction far more compassionate and far more merciful.”

    Obama’s faith adviser went on to say how he may have joined Ayers’ terrorist group if he was around as an activist in the 1960s.

    “One of the things that I write about in this book is, you know, had it been one of the people involved in the Weather Underground, who were sitting at my kitchen table when I was 18 years old and raging, my life could have been very different,” he said.

    “That I really thank God that it was a set of people who came into my life with a very clear vision of justice. But a sense of justice emanating from Divine Mercy.”

    Patel has a much deeper relationship with Ayers than he admitted in the NPR interview.

    In 2005, he co-authored a book with Ayers’ adopted son, Chesa Boudin.

    The book, “Letters from Young Activists: Today’s Rebels Speak Out,” was co-written by several young radicals, including Ismail Khalidi, the son of Columbia University Professor Rashid Khalidi.

    WND was first to report on Obama’s close relationship with Khalidi, who has been tied to the Palestinian Liberation Organization and who has described Israel as a “racist” state with an “apartheid” system.

    The preface of Patel’s 2005 book, meanwhile, was written by Ayers’ wife, Weather Underground co-founder Bernardine Dohrn.

    Dohrn describes the book as “a clarion call of hope, defiance, critical analysis, humor, irony, and self-conscious insistence that the queer, the Palestinian, the immigrant, the privileged, the children of prisoners and hip-hopsters have arrived.”

    The back cover of the book boasts an endorsement from Mumia Abu-Jamal, the convicted cop-killer and former member of the Black Panther Party.

    On the acknowledgments page, Patel and co-authors thank Ayers himself for “guidance” and “encouragement.”

    Hamas co-conspirator

    Patel is part of the official speaker’s bureau of the Islamic Society of North America, an unindicted co-conspirator in a scheme to raise money for Hamas.

    From his own comments, Patel apparently is a member of ISNA. Upon the August 2007 election of the group’s president, Ingrid Mattson, Patel told USA Today, “I’m proud to have her elected as my president.”

    Patel also served last year on a panel at ISNA’s annual convention in Washington.

    He has written columns for the Washington Post and Huffington Post that promote ISNA events.

    Ground Zero mosque

    Patel is also tied to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the controversial Islamic leader behind the proposed $100 million, 13-story Islamic cultural center and mosque two blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks.

    Rauf wrote the afterword to Patel’s 2006 book, “Building the Interfaith Youth Movement: Beyond Dialogue to Action.”

    Patel is listed as one of 15 “Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow” on the website for the American Society for Muslim Advancement, which is led by Rauf.

    In Patel’s 2007 book, “Saving Each Other, Saving Ourselves,” he recounts discussing with Rauf the future of Islam in the U.S.

    Rauf “understood the vision immediately and suggested that I visit him and his wife, Daisy Khan, at their home the following evening,” Patel recalled.

    Khan founded the society with her husband and has aided him in his plans for the mosque near Ground Zero.

    “The living room of their apartment on the Upper West Side was set up like a mosque, with prayer rugs stretched from wall to wall,” wrote Patel in his book.

    Continued Patel: “I arrived at dusk, prayed the maghrib prayer with Daisy and Imam Feisal and then talked with them about how America, with its unique combination of religious devotion and religious diversity, was the ideal place for a renewal of Islam.

    “In the 20th century, Catholicism and Judaism underwent profound transformations in America,” Patel observed. “I think, this century, in America, Islam will do the same.”

    ‘Critical mass’ of Muslims in U.S.

    “Islam is a religion that has always been revitalized by its migration,” Patel wrote. “America is a nation that has been constantly rejuvenated by immigrants. There is now a critical mass of Muslims in America.”

    Patel last March wrote a Huffington Post piece referring to Obama’s former “green jobs” czar Van Jones as a “faith hero.”

    “In my last post on Van, I called him an American patriot,” wrote Patel. “That is high praise in my book. But watching Van’s speech at the NAACP, I have another title for him, one that I reserve for the true giants of history. Van Jones is a faith hero.”

    Jones resigned in September after it was exposed he founded a communist revolutionary organization and signed a statement that accused the Bush administration of possible involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. Jones also called for “resistance” against the U.S.

    Jones previously stated his advocacy for green jobs was part of a broader movement to destroy the U.S. capitalist system.

    WND reported that one day after the Sept. 11 attacks, Jones led a vigil that expressed solidarity with Arab and Muslim Americans as well as with what he called the victims of “U.S. imperialism” around the world.

    With research by Brenda J. Elliott

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=298017

  • wbboei

    It is a bad thing that primaries should start in Iowa. The people there have shown themselves to be incompetent when it comes to choosing a president.

  • Shadowfax

    Mrs. Smith
    May 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    That pesky Long Form Birth Certificate (forgery) is NOT going away!
    _____________________________

    New ‘birth certificate’ anomalies inexplicable

    The stamp, affixed April 25, 2011, says “TXE RECORD.”

    Yet, on a copy of a Hawaii long-form birth certificate issued only one month earlier, the stamp says “THE RECORD.”

    ———-
    Why they accidentally erased the ‘H’ in the first place and then typoed the ‘X’ without double checking, is amazing to me.

    Also…

    What is even more apparent on that copy/pasted stamp mentioned above is the tiny white edge around all of the text, and white in the middle of letters that are closed, like the ‘D’. This is proof that the original stamp image was cloned in Photoshop, or similar program, erasing all the background of the original image of paper and pasting it on to the second blank document. The erasure of white around the letters wasn’t perfect enough because of the pixels, (low resolution).

    I have quite a bit of experience with Photoshop, and this is 100% proof that this stamp is a fake. (Look at blown up version on that site and you will see it.)

  • Mike Marks

    Wbboei@8:31AM

    I haven’t been following the birth certificate issue that closely; it seems like a dead end unless a verified photographic facsimile of the LFBC is released (I’m more interested in the Natural Born Citizen part of the eligibility issue as I think it’s more potent). Is anyone claiming that the released document is an actual photographic copy of the original LFBC, or is it admitted to be a copy of the short-form document enhanced with some of the missing information? If the latter assumption is correct, the other two discrepencies can be explained rather easily – they can say that the hospital name was given as the current name to clarify which hospital it was, and someone might have just made a mistake in specifying the race as “African” – doesn’t really prove much; however, if the released document is supposed to be an actual facsimile of the original, then it’s a different story. The media was so ecstatic about the Fraud’s “brilliance” in foiling the “centerpiece” of Trump’s campaign that I don’t think they even bothered to look at the released document.

    By the way, the reason the Republicans never jumped on the NBC issue is that they have at least two rising stars who are going to face the same problem if and when they run for pres in the future – Jindal (whose parents were not citizens at the time of his birth) and Rubio (whose Cuban immigrant parents’ status is uncertain at the time of his birth). One would have to wonder why they wouldn’t want to settle the issue now to avoid future complications; it’s not going to go away.

    turndownobama@10:09AM

    “Heh. Now that’s my kind of evidence. Something used in popular fiction — shows what the public was likely to credit at that time.”

    It’s amazing what sticks in our memory from our early TV viewing. I distinctly remember that intro to “Sheena” and associated Kenya with that program ever since. I also distinctly remember Sheena herself, played by the gorgeous, six-foot blonde Irish McCallah (now deceased, unfortunately). Indeed, evidence that would stand up in any court.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax @12:43

    “I have quite a bit of experience with Photoshop, and this is 100% proof that this stamp is a fake. (Look at blown up version on that site and you will see it.)”
    ___________________

    Pretty sloppy job done by the forgers. Obama called and said: “I need something to shut those MFs up.” “Now get me a Long Form Birth Certificate… NOW.” “I want it in my hands tomorrow.”

    Well Obama got what he asked for- a rush job from incompetents without a clue about the importance of proof reading! :lol:

  • wbboei

    Demagoguery 101
    By Charles Krauthammer, Published: May 12

    “I’m going to do my part to lead a constructive and civil debate on these issues.”

    — Barack Obama, speech on immigration, El Paso, May 10

    Constructive and civil debate — like the one Obama initiated just four weeks ago on deficit reduction? The speech in which he accused the Republicans of abandoning families of autistic and Down syndrome kids? The debate in which Obama’s secretary of health and human services said that the Republican Medicare plan would make old folks “die sooner”?

    In this same spirit of comity and mutual respect, Obama’s most recent invitation to civil discourse — on immigration — came just 11 minutes after he accused opponents of moving the goal posts on border enforcement. “Maybe they’ll need a moat,” he said sarcastically. “Maybe they want alligators in the moat.”

    Nice touch. Looks like the Tucson truce — no demonization, no cross-hairs metaphors — is officially over. After all, the Republicans want to kill off the elderly, throw the disabled in the snow and watch alligators lunch on illegal immigrants.

    The El Paso speech is notable not for breaking any new ground on immigration but for perfectly illustrating Obama’s political style: the professorial, almost therapeutic, invitation to civil discourse, wrapped around the basest of rhetorical devices — charges of malice compounded with accusations of bad faith. “They’ll never be satisfied,” said Obama about border control. “And I understand that. That’s politics.”

    How understanding. The other side plays “politics,” Obama acts in the public interest. Their eyes are on poll numbers, political power, the next election; Obama’s rest fixedly on the little children.

    This impugning of motives is an Obama constant. “They” play politics with deficit reduction, with government shutdowns, with health care. And now immigration. It is ironic that such a charge should be made in a speech that is nothing but politics. There is zero chance of any immigration legislation passing Congress in the next two years. El Paso was simply an attempt to gin up the Hispanic vote as part of an openly political two-city, three-event campaign swing in preparation for 2012.

    Accordingly, the El Paso speech featured two other staples: the breathtaking invention and the statistical sleight of hand.

    “The [border] fence is now basically complete,” asserted the president. Complete? There are now 350 miles of pedestrian fencing along the Mexican border. The border is 1,954 miles long. That’s 18 percent. And only one-tenth of that 18 percent is the double and triple fencing that has proved so remarkably effective in, for example, the Yuma sector. Another 299 miles — 15 percent — are vehicle barriers that pedestrians can walk right through.

    Obama then boasted that on his watch 31 percent more drugs have been seized, 64 percent more weapons — proof of how he has secured the border. And for more proof: Apprehension of illegal immigrants is down 40 percent. Down? Indeed, says Obama, this means that fewer people are trying to cross the border.

    Interesting logic. Seizures of drugs and guns go up — proof of effective border control. Seizures of people go down — yet more proof of effective border control. Up or down, it matters not. Whatever the numbers, Obama vindicates himself.

    You can believe this flimflam or you can believe the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office. The GAO reported in February that less than half the border is under “operational control” of the government. Which undermines the entire premise of Obama’s charge that, because the border is effectively secure, “Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement” didn’t really mean it.

    I count myself among those who really do mean it. I have little doubt that most Americans would be quite willing to regularize and legalize the current millions of illegal immigrants if they were convinced that this was the last such cohort, as evidenced by, say, a GAO finding that the border is under full operational control and certification to the same effect by the governors of the four southern border states.

    Americans are a generous people. Upon receipt of objective and reliable evidence that the border is secure — not Obama’s infinitely manipulable interdiction statistics — the question would be settled and the immigrants legalized.

    Why doesn’t Obama put such a provision in comprehensive immigration legislation? Because for Obama, immigration reform is not about legislation, it’s about reelection. If I may quote the president: I understand that. That’s politics

  • admin

    Peggy Noonan rewriting history:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703864204576319723962470838.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
    http://peggynoonan.com/

    The reigning assumption, or cliché, is that the American people have a censorious side and are puritanical about their politicians, demanding a lifetime of personal rectitude. I don’t think that’s been true in the modern era. When Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, he won in spite of being famously surrounded by rumors about his personal life. Gennifer Flowers held news conferences, the National Enquirer was in on the act. People elected Mr. Clinton anyway. They didn’t judge him harshly. They knew that on becoming president he wouldn’t do anything embarrassing. Then came Monica Lewinsky, which was his mistake: The past is the past, but that was the present—and in the Oval Office! For that they punished him, with the strictest punishment there was: impeachment.

    Hypocritical Newt and hypocritical Lindsay Graham (who knows quite a lot about oral sex) were the nuts out to get Bill Clinton. The American people knew how to differentiate between personal behavior and a fantastic president. Democrats won the mid-terms and it was understood to be a signal that they did NOT want Bill Clinton impeached.

    There was a sixteen point permanent “bounce” for Bill when the sex inquisitors began their work. The American people supported Bill and he left office with a much higher approval (mid sixties) than he came in. Noonan either does not know what she is writing about or she is a liar.

  • Shadowfax

    Still shaking the bushes seeing if Hillary is a stealth candidate who will surface at the 11th hour to primary him.
    —–
    On Fox last night Morris mentioned that the Big Dawg did not jump into the Presidential race until October. So we have a long time to keep the fires burning for our gal Hillary.

  • Shadowfax

    wbb

    Quit talking about Hillary’s age as if she is too damn old to run.

    Trump is what, one year younger and you don’t talk about his being to old.

    Damn, this pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BigCatLover

    I’ve always considered Peggy Noonan a nut and she never says anything useful or relevant. I always question why she is a pundit, but then most of the pundits have nothing relevant to say.

  • BigCatLover

    Having assured themselves that she would not run against him, they moved to a secondary objective which is to lure her supporters back to the party.
    ************************
    Sounds like the Obama camp is worried and trolling for votes.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Another view of the border speech.
    EXCLUSIVE: Border Community Organizing Petition to Protest Obama’s Immigration Speech
    …”It is with great wonderment and sadness that we listened to your May 10 speech on immigration issues. All of the joking about moats and alligators cut residents of Portal, AZ, to the core as we sheltered with friends or at a Red Cross evacuation site, to survive a terrible fire that still threatens our lives and property, as well as our ecotourism-based economy,” the letter reads. On Sunday, a massive fire broke out in Horseshoe Canyon, about 50 miles north of the Mexican border, which residents and law enforcement say they believe was started by criminal illegal aliens. Last year, a fire in the same location caused more than $10 million in damages…

    Jeff Gee, one of the organizers behind the petition and a firefighter battling the still-burning fire in Horseshoe Canyon, says he was insulted by Obama’s speech. “I’m really disappointed at current border security, I’m really disappointed at the president’s speech saying that people like me wants moats with alligators, but moats with alligators might work, nothing else,” he told FoxNews.com. “We’re doing everything we can to get the word out that this is serious problem, it’s not just a border issue, the drugs and crime are moving through the corridor and they keep going to major cities. I don’t know if this letter will help, but nothing else is.”

    Cochise County, Ariz., Sheriff Larry Dever, who penned an op-ed in The New York Times Friday describing the plight of border residents, told FoxNews.com that the petition is a plea for the administration to take a closer look at the hardships they are suffering….
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/13/exclusive-border-community-organizing-petition-protest-obamas-immigration/

  • S

    …I haven’t read Alter’s piece on Hillary yet, however I did see him on TV talking about it and her…his tone is always the backhanded compliment…he goes so far, then always pulls back and bows to O…everything he says positive about Hillary on TV is always suggesting that she is doing a pretty good job, but not a great job…she has not accomplished anything great…”she is a good SOS, but not a great SOS”…she has not done anything to distinguish herself as great…or, in other words, she is adequate…

    O is superior to everything Hillary does…they are still trying to marginalyze her and keep her in ‘their’ box…

    I suspect it is her high poll numbers…higher than O…and her amazing work ethic that have the left media frightened by Hillary’s power and intellect

    *******************************************************************

    re: what will do O in…I doubt it will be any BC issue…imho…it will be lack of jobs, more homes foreclosed, the economy…and the pummeling he will take by things that will begin to resonate that people like T will be saying…the USA being ripped off, etc,. oil prices, the USA manufacturing base, etc.

    …and maybe a blago related/Rezco scandal that could surface the second time around…

  • pm317

    uh oh! Trouble ahead for Obummer and the Dims.. consider this scenario: the republican nominee picks Condi as his running mate. That would definitely split the black vote and then in 2016, if she becomes the presidential candidate (at 62), and picks Rubio for VP slot, it is a done deal.

    Daniels accepted an invitation from those 55 students to meet at a spacious bar several blocks away after the event; he sipped Woodford Reserve bourbon as he asked them about their own lives and families. In return, they asked him who he might like to tap as his vice presidential nominee if he runs.

    Hypothetically, he told them, he’d like to pick Condoleezza Rice.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/05/13/getting_to_yes_for_the_danielses_109852-3.html

    Daniels thinks she will cover for his foreign policy ignorance.

  • turndownobama

    Is anyone claiming that the released document is an actual photographic copy of the original LFBC

    ================

    Yes.

  • jbstonesfan

    Tragically Mrs. Smith and JanH, it is the liberal, elite American Jews who have funded and supported Obama’s campaign to destroy Israel as it exists today. These Jewish Americans, by and large, view their liberalism as significantly more important than the survival of Israel. Israel’s only friends now are conservative christians and the small % of conservative Jews in this country. Obama is not worried , even in an election year, b/c he knows in the end, the Jews will raise a ton of money for him like last election and vote for him at around 80% despite his loathsome policies towards the Jewish state. Netanyahu is a great speaker, but whenever he becomes prime minister, he shrinks. We need a Begin now in Israel, and sadly there are no more Begin’s left……Israel may be doomed.

  • JanH

    jbstonesfan

    Agreed. A Begin or Golda for sure.

  • Shadowfax

    Here’s a real Friday the 13th act of desperation:

    Japan to Cover Damaged Nuclear Reactors with Giant Tents

    (Dow Jones) – Giant polyester covers will soon be placed around the damaged reactor buildings at Japan’s Fukushima nuclear complex to help contain the release of radioactive substances into the atmosphere, the plant operator said Friday.

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) will install the first cover at the No. 1 reactor, the focus of recent stabilization efforts, starting next month.

    Workers will erect a steel framework and place a giant polyester tent-like cover around the reactor building. Similar covers will be placed around units No. 3 and 4. The work is expected to be completed by the end of the year.

    http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/news/japan-nuclear-reactors-giant-tents-dpgonc-20110513-fc_13185892

    ——

    Out of site, out of mind…huh?

    The world is royally fu@ked!

  • turndownobama

    wbb,

    What you wisely said about forensics and the Simpson trial applies here also. The bots and media will never accept any kind of evidence of forgery.

    I did not say that all of us as individuals have to accept the lfbc as legitimate. But imo the next step in the public argument is to go on to “IF it is real, why wait so long to release it, etc etc.”

  • turndownobama

    Japan to Cover Damaged Nuclear Reactors with Giant Tents

    =============

    Next week, blue tarps and duct tape.

  • Shadowfax

    NBC places ultimatum on Donald Trump for president?

    Could NBC place an ultimatum on Donald Trump and his decision to run for president in 2012?

    It seems the network is attempting to persuade the Donald to make a decision quickly by reportedly offering him $60 million for next season’s “Celebrity Apprentice.” NBC is pushing Mr. Trump, host of “Celebrity Apprentice,” to make a decision about whether he will run for president—before the network unveils its fall lineup this Sunday. The New York billionaire has said he will announce his decision on the final episode later this month.

    Sources tell the New York Post that NBC has been “calling Trump every hour” with offers of $60 million to stay with the show. It’s unclear whether the $60 million is for one or more years, the Post reported.

    Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/nbc-places-ultimatum-on-donald-trump-for-president/#ixzz1MGMAripA

  • Shadowfax

    Extensive Porn Stash Reportedly Found in Bin Laden Compound

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/13/extensive-porn-stash-reportedly-bin-laden-compound/#ixzz1MGOUAFe8

    This is gonna go over well with the terrorists.

    Binny’s son is gonna sue Ubama for the sea burial, right?

  • admin

    Shadowfax, regarding the porn stash: Release The Photos! :)

  • admin

    Huckster?

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/05/13/does-the-huck-stop-here/

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee looks like he’ll give the 2012 White House campaign a pass, says Mr. Huckabee’s top political operative.

    Mr. Huckabee has told followers to tune in to his Saturday evening show on Fox News for what he calls a major announcement. But Ed Rollins, who directed his 2008 campaign and has been organizing his 2012 campaign-in-waiting, said he has not been consulted.

    “I’ve heard nothing, which indicates to me he’s not running,” Mr. Rollins said in an interview.

    If Mr. Huckabee formally says he’s a no-go, his absence will reshape the still-chaotic campaign for the Republican nomination. He leads or is near the top of virtually every poll of Republican primary voters, and would have been the presumptive front runner in the first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa, which he won in 2008. Without him, a large Evangelical contingent – plus voters drawn to his easy-going personality – will be up for grabs in the Hawkeye State and beyond.

    As recently as a week ago, Mr. Rollins said, he had been meeting with Mr. Huckabee intensively to go over his chances. A month ago, he said, the former governor was “fully engaged.” Two weeks ago, “he started backing off, but he still wanted to go through, could he raise the money, could he put together the operatives,” Mr. Rollins recalled. All the answers were “yes,” the campaign chief added.

    They had assembled a strategy the foresaw him sweeping to victory in Iowa, then focusing on South Carolina, Florida and Texas.

    “There was absolutely nothing that I told him that would back him away from doing the race,” Mr. Rollins said. “If he said tomorrow night, ‘I’m running,’ and came to me, I could put together a campaign in week,” he said.

    Mr. Huckabee has about 10 close political advisers left over from his 2008 campaign, many of whom have held off committing to other campaigns, or even said they would quit their jobs, should he decide to run. This core cadre has met with him over the last month, and has strongly advised that he jump in. “He has by far the clearest path to the nomination of all the 2012 candidates,” one of the would-be Huckabee team said.

    But several member of the inner circle said Friday that they had no knowledge of what Mr. Huckabee planned to announce, and were dumbfounded that he had kept his own would-be campaign in the dark. Mr. Huckabee has already seen most of his main operatives in Iowa and New Hampshire gobbled up by competing campaigns.

    There have been lingering doubts. His Fox show and series of books have made Mr. Huckabee a wealthy man for the first time in his life. He built a mansion in Florida. Fox executives told him he had to decide whether he would run or keep his show.

    “I said, ‘If you don’t have the fire in the belly, don’t go,’” Mr. Rollins said. “I can’t want it more for him than he wants it for himself.

  • SHV

    What you wisely said about forensics and the Simpson trial applies here also.
    *******
    That rings a bell in my fading memory. I never saw a plausible explanation about how EDTA got into the blood spots found at Simpson’s home. (EDTA is a chemical used to prevent blood clotting in the glass collection tubes when a blood draw is done)

  • Mike Marks

    Turndownobama@2:27PM
    Wbboei@8:31AM

    If the WH is claiming that the released document is a photo duplicate of the original LFBC from 1961, and not just a new document containing some of the missing information from the LFBC, then it would be difficult for anyone to explain how the hospital name is stated as the current name and not the name as it was in 1961. Seems too easy; can anyone be that incompetent?

  • jbstonesfan

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee looks like he’ll give the 2012 White House campaign a pass
    ===============

    This is good news..nice guy, un-electable.

  • SHV

    Huckster has always been a penny ante chiseler. The monstrosity that he is building on a Fl beach isn’t finished yet. He has hit the big money. Bye bye politics.

  • Shadowfax

    admin
    May 13th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Shadowfax, regarding the porn stash: Release The Photos! :)

    —–
    Barry probably claimed them, and said it was a National Security issue.

    I wonder how many goats were in the photos. ;-)

  • ani

    Shadowfax
    May 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    wbb

    Quit talking about Hillary’s age as if she is too damn old to run.

    Trump is what, one year younger and you don’t talk about his being to old.

    Damn, this pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ————————

    trump is older than Hillary.

  • turndownobama

    Shadowfax, regarding the porn stash: Release The Photos!

    ================

    ROTFL!

  • admin

    Ron Paul is older than McCain.

  • turndownobama

    His Fox show and series of books have made Mr. Huckabee a wealthy man for the first time in his life. He built a mansion in Florida. Fox executives told him he had to decide whether he would run or keep his show.

    ================

    Hm, is there a pattern here?

  • turndownobama

    it would be difficult for anyone to explain how the hospital name is stated as the current name and not the name as it was in 1961. Seems too easy; can anyone be that incompetent?

    ================

    Exactly. After several years and unlimited money to prepare a forgery, we’d expect the forgers to do their homework. Especially since it would have to be with the cooperation of the HI records office who later vouched for the result. So imo an incompetent forgery is less likely than an imperfect original document.

    To really look into that, you could start with other lfbc’s of the period. What form of hospital name appears on them? And, who customarily filled out the hospital name? The parents, or staff, or did the hospital keep a stack of them with the hospital name already there?

    As with “Kenya”, the new name may have been in popular use before the official name change went through its final stage.

  • Shadowfax

    HuckstersBee

    If Mr. Huckabee formally says he’s a no-go, his absence will reshape the still-chaotic campaign for the Republican nomination. He leads or is near the top of virtually every poll of Republican primary voters, and would have been the presumptive front runner in the first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa, which he won in 2008. Without him, a large Evangelical contingent – plus voters drawn to his easy-going personality – will be up for grabs in the Hawkeye State and beyond.

    As recently as a week ago, Mr. Rollins said, he had been meeting with Mr. Huckabee intensively to go over his chances. A month ago, he said, the former governor was “fully engaged.” Two weeks ago, “he started backing off, but he still wanted to go through, could he raise the money, could he put together the operatives,” Mr. Rollins recalled. All the answers were “yes,” the campaign chief added.

    ———–
    This makes me wonder…

    Before Binny took a swim and the media comedy attack on Trump, The Donald was talking on Fox about time he met with the HuckleberryBee, saying what a really nice guy he was, and not tearing him to shreds like he did other conservative candidates. He made it sound like they had a good talk and not just a few minutes of fluff talking.

    Seems like the HBee was pretty quiet after that, could Donald have asked if the Huckster wanted to be his VP? Running with him will bring in the religious right, the nice cop to Donald’s bad cop, and also Hucks is a party guy.

    This isn’t my choice of a VP, just wondering about this situation.

  • Shadowfax

    Ani
    trump is older than Hillary.

    ——–
    (Thanks Ani)

    Hillary Clinton Birthday is October 26, 1947

    Donald Trump was born on June 14, 1946

    I rest my case!

  • wbboei

    Mike Marks
    May 13th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    Wbboei@8:31AM

    I haven’t been following the birth certificate issue that closely; it seems like a dead end unless a verified photographic facsimile of the LFBC is released (I’m more interested in the Natural Born Citizen part of the eligibility issue as I think it’s more potent). Is anyone claiming that the released document is an actual photographic copy of the original LFBC, or is it admitted to be a copy of the short-form document enhanced with some of the missing information? If the latter assumption is correct, the other two discrepencies can be explained rather easily – they can say that the hospital name was given as the current name to clarify which hospital it was, and someone might have just made a mistake in specifying the race as “African” – doesn’t really prove much; however, if the released document is supposed to be an actual facsimile of the original, then it’s a different story. The media was so ecstatic about the Fraud’s “brilliance” in foiling the “centerpiece” of Trump’s campaign that I don’t think they even bothered to look at the released document.
    ———————————
    Mike, let me give you and everyone else who was good enough to respond to my APB on the birth matter, and has not given up on the issue, some additional facts which prove conclusively that the document Obama presented, vouched for and big media accepted without due diligence is fraudulent. I believe it is not a dead end–unless we make it one.

    By way of background, I spoke to my friend this morning. She has done additional research on the i)the name of the country, ii) the name of the hospital, iii) the major gap in numbering, iv) the procedures which the health departments use for allocating birth numbers, v) the meaning of the term “live birth certificate” and the requirements thereof, vi) the term African, as opposed to negroid and vii) what exactly Obama said about the document at the time he introduced it–which is the question you raised above. On the question of fraud, I believe the results are conclusive. But I need to know if you agree.

    Coincidentally, my friend married a black man in 1968, and had children by him. She cautioned me to not make judgments about what an interracial couple was faced with and would have done based on today’s standards. In 1961, racial attitudes were prevalent in many parts of the country and Hawaii was no exception. Remember this was before Martin Luther King hit his stride, and before miscegenation statutes were declared unconstitutional (Loving vs Virginia (1967). A white woman who was unmarried and had a child by a black man was at risk. The black man, who was travelling on a passport would have been doubly at risk in those days.

    That said, she asked me to tell you that your reaction will be invaluable to the two of us, because, as she put it, if we cannot persuade the people you blog with that the long form birth certificate Obama produced is a blatant fraud (not even a subtle one) based on clear cogent and convincing evidence, then we are wasting our time. Too many people have given up under the blitzkreig orchestrated by Obama and his big media assassins against Trump and others.

    1. A Contemporaneous Document: let me begin by addressing your threshold question, i.e. ” Is anyone claiming that the released document is an actual photographic copy of the original LFBC, or is it admitted to be a copy of the short-form document enhanced with some of the missing information?”

    My friend had the stomach which I did not have to watch Obama when he broke into the Trump show. She reports that Obama was very specific on that point. His exact words were “this document is the REAL DEAL”– I hope this will put this matter to rest, so we can get on with the important problems facing the country”. (Emphasis added)

    What is the plain meaning of those words? Clearly, they mean that the document he presented and vouched for at that time was a true copy of the birth certificate which was issued contemporaneous with his birth, rather than something that was prepared years later, and simply updated. Therefore, the document he vouched for is fraudulent on its face because information set forth therein was neither known or knowable at the time of his birth. Moreover, it is fraudulent on its face for other reasons as well, as we shall see.

    2. Name of Hospital: if this is a contemporaneous document he claims it is, then it would have been prepared by a clerk or nurse who worked at the hospital at that time. Some of that information on the form would be known to the clerk in the ordinary course of business, whereas other information would be known only to the mother and father. The name of the hospital would be something that was well known to the clerk who prepared this document. Thus, it is unlikely that the clerk got the name of the hospital wrong, but it is utterly unconceivable that the hypothetical clerk who prepared this document at that time recorded a name for that hospital which was not its rightful name at the time, and did not come into existence until sixteen years later. Therefore, the inescapable conclusion is this document is fraudulent on its face.

    3. The Number Gap: my friend contacted a number of states, i.e. Iowa, Indiana, Hawaii (refused to disclose) to inquire about their procedures for securing numbers. The procedures do vary to some extent from state to state. But the overall goal is the same and that is to match up numbers with births in a sequential order as nearly as possible.

    Here then is how it works: Every day an authorized official of the hospital contacts the health department and advises how many women are in labor. Whereupon, the health department issues a corresponding batch of sequential numbers. If a child is not delivered that day, then that number is not used and a small gap exists.

    When a large gap exists between the numbers issued to babies who are all supposedly born on the same day, it suggests that there was a home birth, in which case, the number which appears on the birth certificate is the date that home birth was reported to the state. Indeed, the smaller the state, the bigger the gap, the more that inference becomes conclusive. What does that mean? It means that if Obama was born at home then the statement that he was born in the hospital is also fraudulent.

    4. Certificate of Live Birth: this is a term of art. It is issued for births which do not take place in the hospital. The legal requirements are that the birth must be attested to the Health Department by two witnesses. It is reasonable to assume that Obama’s mother and grandmother were the witnesses. Likewise, it is reasonable to assume that this was why he rushed to Hawaii to hover over his grandmother who he did not care for, i.e. typical white person, until she was dead to make sure the press did not uncover the circumstances of his birth. The certificate of live birth which he has, but did not release, coupled with the gap in numbering proves that he was not born in the hospital identified in the birth certificate, ergo the birth certificate is fraudulent for that reason as well.

    5. “African: the term is not a race. It is a continent. The term which was used at that time to describe a race was negroid. My friend’s daughter’s birth certificate lists the race of her father as Negroid. And that certificate was issued in 1970. The term African–as in African-American, was not adopted until years later. The birth certificate purports to be contemporaneous with his birth, but as with the hospital name, it uses a term which was not in existence at that time. That is a third reason why the birth certificate that Obama presented is fraudulent.

    6. Kenya: the information in Wikipedia is not accurate, thanks to the hyperactive bots. Kenya was declared to be part of the British African Protectorate in the 1880s. Also included in that protectorate were Uganda and Tanganyika. During the 1930s the area was named Kenya in honor of the tribe. It was a colony of Britain until 1963. The birth certificate asks what country the father was born in and the entry reflects Kenya. Viewed from the perspective of 1961, Kenya was not a country–it was a colony. The reader can decide for herself or himself whether the distinction is material to the issue of fraud. The case now rests on the three prior grounds, which do not depend on subjective or interpretive judgment.

    Please please please anyone give us your reaction. Shoot holes in it if you wish. But let us know if you agree.

  • Shadowfax

    Ubama’s campaign website, still using the flim flam logo, forgot to dye his hair and also just wants your email address and a donation.

    Fat chance OBucko!

    http://www.barackobama.com/im-in-splash-events

  • turndownobama

    or nurse who worked at the hospital at that time. Some of that information on the form would be known to the clerk in the ordinary course of business, whereas other information would be known only to the mother and father. The name of the hospital would be something that was well known to the clerk who prepared this document. Thus, it is unlikely that the clerk got the name of the hospital wrong, but it is utterly unconceivable that the hypothetical clerk who prepared this document at that time recorded a name for that hospital which was not its rightful name at the time, and did not come into existence until sixteen years later.

    ======================

    This could be shot down if anyone else born in that hospital at the same time or previous to 1961 can show a lfbc with the hospital name in the same form as it is on Obama’s lfbc (or if other documents or references to that form of the name turn up). The new name is not so different from the old names of the two relatec institutions which were finally merged.

  • turndownobama

    The term which was used at that time to describe a race was negroid. My friend’s daughter’s birth certificate lists the race of her father as Negroid. And that certificate was issued in 1970. The term African–as in African-American, was not adopted until years later.

    =====================

    Generallly adopted from pressure by White Guilt Liberals like Obama’s mother and white grandparents, who might well have insisted on using it on the bc. (As might Obama Sr.)

  • SHV

    Hopefully the Huckster will follow his “nature” and go for the money. He is a real looser. He has his own version of Valerie Jarrett and she is a real wacko.

    “Huckabee has joked that he “answers” to “two Janets.” One is his wife, Janet Huckabee. The other is Janet Porter, the onetime co-chair of Huckabee’s Faith and Values Coalition. And Porter, the former governor has said, is his “prophetic voice.” But that voice has said some weird things over the years: Porter has maintained that Obama represents an “inhumane, sick, and sinister evil,” and she has warned that Democrats want to throw Christians in jail merely for practicing their faith. She’s attributed Haiti’s high poverty rate to the fact that the country is “dedicated to Satan,” and she suggested that gay marriage caused Noah’s Flood. And there’s this: In a 2009 column for conservative news site WorldNetDaily, Porter asserted that President Barack Obama is a Soviet secret agent, groomed since birth to destroy the United States from within.”

    “An acolyte of the late televangelist D. James Kennedy, Porter rose quickly through the ranks of the Christian right, first as director of the Ohio Right to Life chapter in the 1990s. Later, she founded and served as president of Faith2Action, a right-wing group that promotes a theory known as Christian Dominionism—in which Christians are duty-bound to control the instruments of government in advance of the second coming of Christ.”

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/mike-huckabee-janet-porter-soviet-spy

  • turndownobama

    The birth certificate asks what country the father was born in and the entry reflects Kenya. Viewed from the perspective of 1961, Kenya was not a country–it was a colony.

    ===================

    Silly nitpick. If Obama Sr was aware of that distinction while giving the bc information, he might well have disagreed, being anti-colonialist. (Same for Stanley Ann and the White Guilt Grandparents.)

  • turndownobama

    Hawaii (refused to disclose) to inquire about their procedures for securing numbers. The procedures do vary to some extent from state to state. But the overall goal is the same and that is to match up numbers with births in a sequential order as nearly as possible.

    Here then is how it works: Every day an authorized official of the hospital contacts the health department and advises how many women are in labor. Whereupon, the health department issues a corresponding batch of sequential numbers. If a child is not delivered that day, then that number is not used and a small gap exists.

    =====================

    To make this stick, you would have to get confirmation from the HI records office (which you say refuses to disclose) or from other people who had HI bc’s issued around that time.
    Iirc a woman from HI says that her baby was given a slightly out of order number because her labor lasted longer than the other mother’s did.

  • wbboei

    Quit talking about Hillary’s age as if she is too damn old to run.

    Trump is what, one year younger and you don’t talk about his being to old.

    Damn, this pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ————————–
    Here is the point: I supported her in 2008 when she was 59. I support her in 2012 when she will be 64. It is not unreasonable for me to say that age will be a factor if she were to run in 2016 because she will be 68. This is a youth obsessed culture and the youth are now politically active. Furthermore, Obama has orchestrated generational conflict in the electorate. Trump will be 65 in 2012 so age is not a factor for him either. But if he decided to run in 2016 that is a different story. McCain was nearly 70 when he ran and great concern was raised about his age apart form anything else. But the bigger problem for Hillary is that the elites want a puppet and that is not what she is, in my opinion.

  • wbboei

    Hopefully the Huckster will follow his “nature” and go for the money. He is a real looser. He has his own version of Valerie Jarrett and she is a real wacko.
    —————————–
    I can hardly wait to know Huckabee better. He sounds like a fascinating guy, who can adopt that avuncular style of his and tell us how much he likes to give amnesty for repeat offenders.

    I still think Gingrich will be the candidate. He is a problem solver and is orders of magnitude smarter than the rest of them. One tip off is the fact that he intends to read into the record all the obscene executive orders Obama has passed sight unseen without any notice or discussion with voters. Also, he would mop the floor with Obama in any debate forum.

  • ImRubberYoureGlue

    Republicans are both stupid and crazy, democrats are ignorant and batshit nutty.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax:

    re: Binny’s porn-stash.

    from the link:

    “Bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound did not have Internet connection or other hard-wired communication networks. But the compound was equipped with televisions after the U.S. government released videos taken from the raid showing the Al Qaeda leader watching himself on TV.

    U.S. officials said materials taken during the raid were the largest cache of intelligence taken from one source.

    The discovery of pornography taken during raids on Islamic militants is not uncommon, officials told
    ______________________

    What BS. When the first round of news reports came out; it mentioned computers were confiscated. There would have been lap-tops at the very least. OBL easily would have had access to a wireless connection from Sandhurst Academy across the street.

    Obama still protecting the Muslim terrorists from embarrassment.

    Release the porn!

  • wbboei

    SHV: I seem to recall that Huckabee is a pastor. We have come along way baby when we are forced to choose between people who want to save our souls their way–the Republicans vs. those who simply want to destroy American civilization and bankrupt the Middle Class–the Obamacrats. I think they call that dilemma Hobson’s choice.

  • wbboei

    What BS. When the first round of news reports came out; it mentioned computers were confiscated. There would have been lap-tops at the very least. OBL easily would have had access to a wireless connection from Sandhurst Academy across the street.

    Obama still protecting the Muslim terrorists from embarrassment.

    Release the porn!
    ———————–
    No, it aint about porn. First, they put out the headline they got all this stuff. They wanted to make asshole look good, and never dreamed they got anything important. Then when the culled through what they confiscated they realized there was so important stuff there. Fearing their prior self serving statement would tip off the enemy, they fabricated a new lie, which is that is was all just porn. They figured smart people would ignore it and dumb people would believe it.

  • Shadowfax

    What BS. When the first round of news reports came out; it mentioned computers were confiscated. There would have been lap-tops at the very least. OBL easily would have had access to a wireless connection from Sandhurst Academy across the street.

    Obama still protecting the Muslim terrorists from embarrassment.

    Release the porn!

    —————-
    Heh, true Mrs. S.
    Porn isn’t just live stream, it comes in all digital format. Anyone go into a movie store in the last decade? Many of them have porn stuff in the back room. This is freakin’ Pack-e-stan, I am sure the fothermuckers sell it on the street corner, that must be another reason why women have to stay home with their heads covered.

    Release the porn? Probably just a pack of female goats. ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    This is what I mentioned above

    Mike Huckabee says he met with Donald Trump in New York last week. (About 3 weeks ago or so)

    Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump had a one-on-one meeting last week, a sit-down that left the former Arkansas governor with the impression that the developer is indeed going to run for president.

    The get-together came as Huckabee, multiple sources said, has been quietly meeting with donors in New York for the past month as he himself weighs a run.

    The meeting, which Huckabee mentioned in passing on Fox News on Monday, was in New York City during a weekend when the 2008 Iowa caucuses winner was in town taping his Fox TV show.

    It’s unclear what the two discussed…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53006.html

  • Shadowfax

    This article thinks the Huckabeeeee will pull the plug on running.

    Mike Huckabee will show his hand on Saturday
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54924.html

  • wbboei

    President
    EXCLUSIVE: Border Community Organizing Petition to Protest Obama’s Immigration Speech
    By Jana Winter

    Published May 13, 2011
    | FoxNews.com

    A United States Border Patrol agent checks an area under a bridge crossing between the United States and Mexico in El Paso, Texas November 14, 2010. El Paso lies across the border from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, a violent city on the frontlines of Mexico’s war against drug cartels. Picture taken November 14, 2010.
    The residents of the Chiricahua-Peloncillo drug and human smuggling corridor that runs from the Mexican border north through eastern Arizona and western New Mexico are circulating a petition to send to the White House in response to President Obama’s recent immigration speech.

    “It is with great wonderment and sadness that we listened to your May 10 speech on immigration issues. All of the joking about moats and alligators cut residents of Portal, AZ, to the core as we sheltered with friends or at a Red Cross evacuation site, to survive a terrible fire that still threatens our lives and property, as well as our ecotourism-based economy,” the letter reads.

    On Sunday, a massive fire broke out in Horseshoe Canyon, about 50 miles north of the Mexican border, which residents and law enforcement say they believe was started by criminal illegal aliens. Last year, a fire in the same location caused more than $10 million in damages.

    “During its first 24-hrs, the fire consumed a greater area than did last year’s fire over a 6-week period. Local residents were roused after midnight, and some slept fitfully in cars after fleeing with family photos and any valuables that could be quickly assembled. Elderly retirees left with medical supplies, including oxygen tanks on which some depend,” the letter reads.

    The petition comes just days after Obama appeared in El Paso, Texas, to plead the case for immigration reform that has been bottled up in Congress for years. During his remarks, the president argued that the border is as safe as it has ever been but Republican opportunists are using the issue to score political points and prevent legal reforms to address illegal immigration.

    “We have gone above and beyond what was requested by the very Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement. All the stuff they asked for, we’ve done,” the president said.

    “But even though we’ve answered these concerns, I’ve got to say I suspect there are still going to be some who are trying to move the goal posts on us one more time. You know, they said we needed to triple the Border Patrol. Or now they’re going to say we need to quadruple the Border Patrol. Or they’ll want a higher fence. Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they want alligators in the moat. They’ll never be satisfied,” he continued.

    Jeff Gee, one of the organizers behind the petition and a firefighter battling the still-burning fire in Horseshoe Canyon, says he was insulted by Obama’s speech.

    “I’m really disappointed at current border security, I’m really disappointed at the president’s speech saying that people like me wants moats with alligators, but moats with alligators might work, nothing else,” he told FoxNews.com.

    “We’re doing everything we can to get the word out that this is serious problem, it’s not just a border issue, the drugs and crime are moving through the corridor and they keep going to major cities. I don’t know if this letter will help, but nothing else is.”

    Cochise County, Ariz., Sheriff Larry Dever, who penned an op-ed in The New York Times Friday describing the plight of border residents, told FoxNews.com that the petition is a plea for the administration to take a closer look at the hardships they are suffering.

    “These people are not overreacting. What they suggest in letter is very deep part of their belief system based on their experience and their experience has been horrific — they see human smuggling and drug trafficking, they sit on their porch and watch people walk through, they’ve had their homes burglarized,” Dever said.

    “It’s a beautiful landscape and for those that moved out there for a sense of tranquility and peace, that’s been destroyed,” he added.

    The letter has been posted at post offices in the border towns of Portal, Ariz. and Rodeo, New Mexico, for signatures to be added.

    Copies of the letter will also be sent to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Arizona Republican Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, and National Public Radio.

    In the letter, petitioners say that despite the president’s protestations, “neither the border nor daily life” is secure.

    “Seizure of record quantities of drugs may pad the statistics of Homeland Security, but it does nothing to ease the burdens we have been forced to bear. Over the years, as our homes have been burgled or invaded, our fences, water lines and windows repeatedly broken, our businesses driven toward bankruptcy, our natural surroundings desecrated by trash and fire, and our lives even obliterated (neighbor Rob Krentz, murdered by a drug scout), it has amazed us how little note is taken of these tragedies by our government and the press,” the letter reads.

    “Is it enough, now that we have suffered back-to-back fires that threaten to erase our very reasons for living here? What must we say or do to garner your attention and help? How is it that, on the same day we took Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, we could not prevent illegals – 50 miles within our borders (!) – from setting a fire along a known smuggling route in an extremely dry year? Why were federal agents (BP, ICE, National Guard, or Special Forces) not posted along this route in anticipation of a repeat of last year’s calamity? Better still, why were the illegals not captured before they had traveled 50 miles north of the border?! Or, in the eyes of our government, do we just reside in a ‘sacrifice zone’?”

    The letter also describes the devastation the fires have caused to the areas unique biodiversity, which attracts bird-watchers and naturalists from around the world.

    The petitioners then asks the president to outline how he plans to fulfill his obligation to protect their constitutional right to defense from foreign invasions “especially as this regards fires set by Mexican drug and human smugglers.

    “We thank you in advance for your anticipated response,” it concludes.

    Dever said the residents of the area are generally self-sufficient and do their part, “but they also expect government agencies to take some responsibility. They’re not, and these people are suffering the consequences,” Dever said.

    The residents will “come together and unite in this front,” he added. “They’re not going to give up. They’re not going to roll over.”

  • wbboei

    This article thinks the Huckabeeeee will pull the plug on running.

    Mike Huckabee will show his hand on Saturday
    ————————-
    I am guessing the same. I do not think he can raise sufficient funds. That is the criterion. The only real contenders that I can see are Trump, Romney and Gingrich. Nobody else can raise the kind of money it will take to survive.

  • SHV

    SHV: I seem to recall that Huckabee is a pastor.
    *********
    Well sorta…He went to “Ouachita Baptist University” for 2 1/2 years and got a BA in Religion…Went to “Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary” and dropped out after a year to work for a TV evangelist…..He did the OJT path to pastoring rather then going to school. If, god forbid, he became President, Huckster would be the least educated President since Harry Truman and Huckster ain’t no Truman.

  • Southern Born

    BO went to Occidental, Columbia? and Harvard. Did it make a difference in the man he is today and his ability, leadership, experience, qualification?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Lt. Col. Terry Laken went to prison because of Barack Obama’s birth certificate. I’m sure you agree that’s a heavy price to pay for standing up for what is right.

    Terry Laken story:

    http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/wherearethebravesoldiers.html
    ____________________________

    Terry Lakin is Free:

    May 13, 2011

    He spent his last 24 hours in a special housing unit set aside for pre-release processing. He enjoyed his last visit with Jim, a local supporter who has visited Terry many times over the last few months. Then after a final night’s sleep Terry was awakened at 5am.

    They brought in his breakfast at 5:30. He had his regulation 20 minutes to eat. Then he waited for the final paperwork to be processed. He turned in all his prison clothes. They gave him his duffel bag and took him to gate for a final strip search. He changed into his own clothes from the package sent to him by Pili. Then into the van and to the bank to cash out his $40 prison account.

    And then the final ride in the prison van to the park-and-ride in eastern Leavenworth.

    Greg Lakin waits for Terry. Across the street Jim and Peggy wait in the parking lot. Any non-registered greeters could cause them to drive by and run Terry back to the prison.

    We wait. The van drives by on the way to the bank. It passes us and turn right into town. Then about 20 minutes later it returns. It is a white panel van with no markings. The only hint that it is Terry’s van is the uniformed MP in the front seat. He pulls up next to our car and steps out. Pulling a small card from his shoulder pocket he checks our Ids.

    As he puts the card back he walks to the back of the van and unlocks the door. Terry is seated in the van without travel shackles for the first time in 5 months. He steps out and embraces Greg in tears. The MP shakes Terry’s hand and wishes him well. He drives the van away.

    Jim and Peggy rush across the street and jump out to embrace Terry. They began visiting Terry in prison shortly after his sentencing. They have provided a room in their house for visitors and visited him two to three times a week since then. They are fast friends.

    More tears and hugs. We hand Terry a netbook running Skype so he can talk to his family. The children are home waiting for his call. Pili appears on the screen with a huge smile. “Come hear kids, your dad is on the phone!” Holly, Jack, and Andrew rush over. Jack, the three year old takes over the screen making faces and laughing. Lot’s of “We love you, dad,” and “See you tomorrow!” Then a call with Terry’s parents. “Hey mom, this is your son, Terry.” “Wait, let me get your dad on the extension.” Lots of how are doings and we love you’s.

    Then off to Terry’s first real meal. A local steakhouse where is savors crab-filled mushrooms, onion rings, steak soup, and of course, a steak. He is loving it. He is free.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Yes. terry paid the price. He is a man of his convictions. I am proud of him and wish I could be like him.

  • turndownobama

    Release the porn? Probably just a pack of female goats.

    ================

    Middle East porn would be Hillary in a plaid pantsuit.

  • admin

    Warning: This is gross. Do not watch and then complain. We have the Bin Laden porn tape:

  • turndownobama

    Scroll down to the image of this HI bc, which shows the combined hospital name “Mat. & Gyn Hospital”. The bc date appears to be in 1949.

    Btw the correspondent gives other interesting info on HI bc policies. Apparently the correspondent was questioning Obama’s story, and this is an anti-Obama site. Note this post was dated April 14, 2011. So this is ‘hostile witness’ evidence of the form of the hospital name.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/14/long-form-birth-certificates-were-available-until-trump-trumped-obama/

  • jbstonesfan

    Lol :)

  • turndownobama

    Here’s another lfbc with “Maternity and Gynecological Hospital” said to be issued one day after Obama’s birth and dated in 1961. Scroll down to the white on black image.

    Again this is another anti-Obama site (WND, Unhruh), and is headed “Posted: April 26, 2011″. Better do a screen capture in case WND decides to scrub it.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292053

  • turndownobama

    Article by Corsi in WND:
    The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
    [....]
    Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier. Nordyke’s twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.
    Read more: Unveiled! Hawaii’s 1961 long-form birth certificates http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347#ixzz1MIEllVsq

    Black and white image shows “Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.”

  • Shadowfax

    Admin

    We have the Bin Laden porn tape…

    :lol: Good one!

  • turndownobama

    Article by Corsi in WND:
    The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
    [....]
    Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier. Nordyke’s twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.
    Read more: Unveiled! Hawaii’s 1961 long-form birth certificates wnd.com/?pageId=105347#ixzz1MIEllVsq

    Black and white image shows “Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.”

    Btw my hat tip for all these mat and gyn links is a current dicussion of the hospital name issue at letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4021592

  • Betty

    Donald Trump owns the birth certificate issue and if he runs for president I hope he invites Lt. Col. Terry Laken to every rally. And over and over at every rally addresses this series of questions to Obama’s supporters: Why? For what reason did Obama persecute this man and his family, ruin his life, make him spend time in jail. Fort Leavenworth is not a club Fed. The man was a doctor and a solder in the services of his country. Why did Obama do it, what excuse is there for Obama’s behavior?

  • JanH

    Bill Clinton: ‘I have no inside information’

    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN 5/13/11

    Former President Bill Clinton says he has never received a national security briefing since leaving office, and had no advance knowledge of the mission that killed Osama bin Laden, despite his wife’s integral role in the administration deliberations.

    The former president says he opted out of the briefings to avoid conflicts with the work his wife, Hillary Clinton, was doing, first on the Senate Armed Services Committee and now as secretary of state.

    “Right after she became a senator, I made up my mind that as long as she was there — and then she became secretary of state — I would never take a security briefing unless asked to do so by the president for a specific reason,” the former president said in an interview with CNBC airing Thursday afternoon, discussing how he learned of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. “My family went out of its way not to be in a position to be compromised.”

    “I have no inside information…. I, like all Americans, knew nothing about the bin Laden operation, which had been debated in the administration in a tiny number of hands for months, until the president called and told me,” Clinton said. “I placed two calls to my wife on that day, and all I was told is, ‘She’s at the White House and can’t talk to you.’”

    In his first extended remarks about bin Laden since the Al Qaeda leader was killed, Clinton said he thought that President Barack Obama did the “right thing” in ordering the raid on the Pakistani compound.

    “Even though it was a difficult decision, I think if it comes out sooner or later that he was in fact there and you had the capacity to go get him and you didn’t do it, I think it would be impossible to explain, after all America had been through and after the risks the world takes,” he said.

    Clinton said he does not agree with the Pakistan skeptics who believe the country’s government must have known bin Laden’s whereabouts, and advocated against cutting off relations, as some have argued for.

    His wife, he said, has it right on this issue.

    “I noticed the secretary of state, with whom I normally agree—makes my life a lot easier, but I also happen to believe it—said the other day that Pakistan was still a key partner in our efforts to contain terrorism. I agree with that. We have no choice but to try to work with them and help the internal battle that is going on there to come out the right way.”

    Clinton also spoke about the federal budget deficit and growing national debt. The U.S. government, he said, will “probably not” be able to balance its budget, but “can make a hell of a dent in it, but only if they can couple a growth strategy with a deficit reduction strategy.”

    In time, though, he thinks the kinds of balanced budgets he had during his second term in the White House could return. “President Obama, let’s say, wins another term, I think by the time he leaves office we’ll be looking at a balanced budget again,” Clinton said, adding that he’ll “be surprised if [Obama] doesn’t win” in 2012.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54950.html

  • wbboei

    Donald Trump owns the birth certificate issue and if he runs for president I hope he invites Lt. Col. Terry Laken to every rally. And over and over at every rally addresses this series of questions to Obama’s supporters: Why? For what reason did Obama persecute this man and his family, ruin his life, make him spend time in jail. Fort Leavenworth is not a club Fed. The man was a doctor and a solder in the services of his country. Why did Obama do it, what excuse is there for Obama’s behavior?
    ——————–
    It will unravel alright. It is just a matter of finding the right string.

  • wbboei

    even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier
    ——————-
    Much earlier if our understanding is correct.

  • wbboei

    Well sorta…He went to “Ouachita Baptist University” for 2 1/2 years and got a BA in Religion…Went to “Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary” and dropped out after a year to work for a TV evangelist…..He did the OJT path to pastoring rather then going to school
    —————————-
    Still a sky pilot, bless his heart. No need for sheepskin.

    This guy is godawful to listen to, but you will get the point:

  • wbboei

    Betty
    May 14th, 2011 at 12:10 am
    —————————
    It is the perfect issue to pit the American People against the Washington elites. Obama is the dandy of the elites, and the enemy of the people. When the American People see the executive orders this jacksass has signed since taking office even the dimmest bulb will realize he is being hosed.

  • turndownobama

    even though Dunham’s baby was born earlier
    ——————-
    Much earlier if our understanding is correct.
    ==============

    More than can be accounted for by Nordyke’s 20 hour labor? And that 20 hours is probably approximate.

  • turndownobama

    The man was a doctor and a solder in the services of his country. Why did Obama do it, what excuse is there for Obama’s behavior?

    =============

    I agree! If the current lfbc is legit and harmless in itself — then we have a serious moral issue with Obama’s concealment of it. This is a simple, understandable human issue.

  • turndownobama

    Ok, we’ve got two dogs that won’t hunt: Kenya and Maternity & Gyn. Now, on to “African”.

    My linguistic instinct says that “the African race” is an expression going way back, a century or so, both in the US and Britain. I bet the White Guilt Grandparents were familiar with it and would have promoted its use, even without whatever Brit influence Obama Sr may have brought.

    I’m too tired to follow up these references; Google found 845,000
    google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1138&bih=519&q=%22the+African+race%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

    Ok, aside from some offensive bot stuff, here’s a pro-Obama site that has some good cites on past instances of “the African race” that match my linguistic instinct. And it makes a good argument that blacks from Africa in that period and earlier described themselves as “African” rather than as “Negro” or whatever. Whether Obama Sr was present at the birth or not, it’s reasonable that his wife and White Guilt In-laws would have used the term “African” also.

    obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/

  • turndownobama

    So did Laken get out early? The site says his release was scheduled for June. Did he recant?

  • Mike Marks

    Wbboei@6:10PM

    I need very little to convince me that fraud has been committed with the BC issue; I just haven’t had the time to research this particular thing thoroughly. In order for me to try and change someone else’s mind about it, the case needs to be airtight in my own mind.

    To play devil’s advocate, your case has a lot of “we can assume that” and “clearly, this is what this means.” For example, for “This is the REAL DEAL” you state:

    “What is the plain meaning of those words? Clearly, they mean that the document he presented and vouched for at that time was a true copy of the birth certificate which was issued contemporaneous with his birth, rather than something that was prepared years later, and simply updated.”

    With all due respect, he didn’t say that at all and it doesn’t clearly mean that; you’re conjecturing. This taints the rest of your case right there. It COULD mean that, but he can also argue that the REAL DEAL means all the information that would prove he was born in Hawaii (hospital, witnesses, etc) presented in some kind of an official form. And he could say he meant a million other things, when pressed.

    My point is that unless someone other than the already-tainted Hawaiian Health Department officials confirm that this is an exact photographic duplication of the LFBC that is in the file cabinet on the first floor of the building…etc., then they can always skirt around the issue. Someone MIGHT have confirmed it, but I haven’t heard that from anyone official. Therefore, until that is established, my previous claims still hold (e.g., they can say the hospital name was changed for clarification, African was mistaken for race, they used an out-of-order number because an unused one was available at the time, etc.).

    Again, I make these counter-arguments as a devil’s advocate; I don’t doubt for a second that this whole issue is suspect, what with the lawsuits to keep the BC sealed and all. But my benchmark is whether I can convince someone else of the truth of my argument without rebuttal and I can’t do that for the reasons stated.

  • turndownobama

    I haven’t seen the specific context of “This is the real deal”, but from the general context of the issue I’d take it to mean “This is a picture of the real long form everyone has been asking for, rather than the computer generated short form.”

  • holdthemaccountable

    Only a Barack Obama has the balls to cut payroll taxes in January
    Then have his lackey Geithner flood news casts on a Friday night in May
    About the emergency of funding Medicare and Medicaid
    Which will be in trouble sooner than thought
    Due in some part to a downturn in tax collections.

  • turndownobama

    Just came across this.

    [[ http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-birth-certificate-released-white-house/story?id=13467977
    The president’s personal attorney, Judith Corley, flew to Hawaii to pick up the original, certified copies and carry them back to the White House, where she arrived around 5 p.m. Tuesday, officials said. ]]

    This story was dated April 27, a Thursday. After so much delay, why wasn’t the copy just mailed, why a special trip to Hawaii to get it? Because Obama wanted to get it up before the Correspondents’ Dinner — and before the Bin Laden raid?

  • turndownobama

    Here’s a ‘press gaggle’ where Carney admits that they delayed asking for the lfbc because they thought the controversy was beneficial politically, hurting the Republicans.

    http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/27/press-gaggle-press-secretary-jay-carney-4272011

  • turndownobama

    I wish I knew an easy way to search H44 archives for my posts made a couple of weeks ago. Having to call up each separate article to use Control-Find is too laborious.

    I remember commenting on a very recent letter by some Hawaiian official about the lfbc. She had written something not quite clear about an exception to their usual computer generated copy.

    If I could find that, I could use her letter in reply to Mike Marks’ “My point is that unless someone other than the already-tainted Hawaiian Health Department officials confirm that this is an exact photographic duplication of the LFBC that is in the file cabinet on the first floor of the building…etc.” The writer probably was in the Hawiian Health Dept … but this was a simple clear statement about something we have now seen.

  • Betty

    wbboei
    May 14th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    “When the American People see the executive orders this jacksass has signed since taking office even the dimmest bulb will realize he is being hosed.”

    Why are we unable to see them now? Don’t we have a right to read them in real time?

    What is the procedure to follow to get copies, does it cost money? Does my Senator have access to them? If they are being held as tightly as other Obama documents then I wish someone would start to leak them.

    We found one model for getting the government to respond to an issue: A very high profile male publicly and repeatedly seeks resolution.

    Can we find another model?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Mike Marks
    May 14th, 2011 at 4:59 am

    Excellent analysis- the primary reason I scroll by third party research and anecdotal evidence retold as fact. In my opinion, our best bet is a forensic review of Jerome Corsi’s book “Where is the Birth Certificate?” Where Corsi takes his evidence beyond the NBC issue integrating his conclusions with the ramifications we face of a Constitutional crisis.

    The author is an attorney with doctorate letters behind his name, who has researched the evidence in his book himself personally for over 3 years stating his conclusions based on fact.

    Subjectively speaking, Trump had taken the BC issue on, I’m sure, with foreknowledge of irrefutable facts stated in Corsi’s book. A shrewd businessman like Trump wouldn’t stake his reputation and credibility on hearsay, or as you mentioned evidence “tainted” by wishful thinking bolstered by his personal endorsement. He wouldn’t be taking aim at the BC’s authenticity matter-of-factly without knowing Corsi’s book provides concrete, irrefutable evidence that would survive the most aggressive cross-examination by Obama’s attorneys. imho-

  • Mrs. Smith

    Betty
    May 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    As far as I know, Executive Orders are published online in the National Register here.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2011.html

    ps- When I’m not sure of where to be looking for information, I state a question to Google as if I know what I’m looking for- Then 9 X out of 10 they provide the answer. If I strike out that way- I restate the answer until I find what I am looking for- :)

    example:

    to find the above link, I put this phrase in Google’s search box:

    “Obama’s executive orders in the register”

  • pm317

    #Betty
    May 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am
    …..

    We found one model for getting the government to respond to an issue: A very high profile male publicly and repeatedly seeks resolution.

    Can we find another model?
    ————————

    We need an old fashioned model.. we need whistleblowers..

  • wbboei

    Betty
    May 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am
    wbboei
    May 14th, 2011 at 1:00 am
    ——————
    Some of them are published and some are not. Those that are published can be found in the National Record. But it is a massive undertaking for any individual to wade through all of them, and reach definitive conclusions on the overall. This has to be done by professionals in a systemic way. That will be the centerpiece of Gingrich’s early campaign, to roll back the rock, to reveal the millions of maggots swarming underneathe, to show how O is rewarding his friends, punishing his enemies, screwing the American People, circumventing Congress, violating the constitution and laying the groundwork for a new world order. This revealation will be highly informative to say the least, and highly definitive of who he really is. The unpublished executive orders we will not see. One of them, in the area of immigration from China, has been languishing on his desk for two years. I do not know whether he has signed it or not since the inside source of his information has dried up. But it is there, and it would not be beyond his low moral character to sign it in the lame duck session just to screw the country when it fails to re elect him. He is that petty and vindictive as we all know.

  • pm317

    If the long form BC is a forgery it is intentional and meant to be another slap in the face of the people — like daring them to cry foul. Now when there is silence as there is now, they think they have the last laugh with their petty trick.

  • Mrs. Smith

    If Obama’s fails to be re-elected, the new president can revoke or rescind his previously written EO’s with the stroke of his/her’s pen.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “to be another slap in the face of the people.”
    ________________

    The slap in the face of the people, is the country is in and has been in a Constitutional Crisis since day 1 of Obama’s presidency. By having an illegitimate president presiding over the country entailing all the decisions he has made declared fraudulent perhaps leading to the very definition of High Crimes and Misdemeanors as mentioned in the Constitution’s Articles of Impeachment.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Amazing that an American president would presume to leave his country unprotected from unknown elements (people unknown) crossing the border. Obama made damn sure his palatial dwelling in Chicago was protected for himself and his family. The deed for Obama’s house is in the names of three different people, one being a Judge. Protecting him from financial repercussions should he be sued later on in the future and found GUILTY!
    _______________________

    Candidate Obama Secures the Vote of Undocumented Democrats

    by Roger Hedgecock

    05/13/2011

    Presidential candidate Barack Obama, seeking the Democratic Party nomination in 2012, stumped for the illegal alien vote in El Paso, Tex., this week, urging Congress to pass an amnesty bill and hitting Republicans for wanting to build a moat at the border and fill it with alligators.

    Obama’s signature soaring rhetoric extolled the beneficial impact of immigration throughout the history of the United States, citing Einstein and I. M. Pei, and the immigrant founders of Google, Yahoo, Intel, and eBay, smoothly blending the importance of these legal immigrants with the tidal wave of illegals swamping the country’s social safety net, prisons, and schools.

    After the inspiring reminder of what America owes to past (legal) immigrants, came the trademark slam, the Alinsky left hook. “At times, there has been fear and resentment directed toward newcomers.” Translation: Enforcing immigration law is racist.

    Then candidate Obama shot a right hook. Apparently aware of the Pew Research Center polling that shows Democrats more split on illegal alien amnesty than Republicans, the candidate pivoted to explain that he himself had enforced immigration law, built the border fence, and cracked down on employers exploiting illegal labor.

    Obama also bluntly acknowledged that illegals have been known to break the law, and if so should pay a fine and any back taxes, “learn English” and “undergo background checks” before being allowed to become citizens.

    The candidate failed to mention what his campaign website makes clear—under his amnesty proposal, before all of the tough paying of fines and learning English requirements, illegals would be eligible immediately for temporary residency cards that make them legal.

    Most states allow legal residents to get a driver’s license, and all states are required (under the federal “Motor Voter” law) to register driver’s license applicants as voters.

    Jackpot! Eleven million new registered Democrat voters just in time for 2012.

    The candidate appeared unfazed by contradictions between his inspiring border-control rhetoric and known facts.

    The number of Border Patrol (BP) officers has indeed increased, reflecting congressional action during the Bush administration. The candidate says that today “fewer people are attempting to cross the border illegally.” But today’s BP is ordered to make the statistics look good by ignoring rather than apprehending those who make illegal crossings.

    A BP agent, armed with a government-issued bean bag gun, recently died in the Arizona desert going up against an illegal with an AK-47. The illegal’s weapon had been sold in the U.S. and smuggled into Mexico under the watchful eyes of Obama’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (a division of the Justice Department) in a sting gone wrong called Operation Gunrunner.

    As to border control, the candidate’s own Government Accountability Office (GAO) has reported that just 44% of the 1,954-mile border with Mexico is under “operational” control, with just 15% totally controlled.

    Candidate Obama asserted that the border fence is “basically complete.” In 2006, Congress passed a law requiring a double fence along 700 miles of the border where smuggling was concentrated. To date, the GAO reports just 36.3 miles of that fence has been built.

    Candidate Obama’s amnesty proposal clashes with political reality too.

    Obama did not propose his “comprehensive” reform when his party dominated the last Congress because he knew that there were not sufficient Democratic votes to pass it.

    Open-border advocate groups have called candidate Obama’s bluff by demanding that he ignore Congress and issue an Executive Order stopping all deportations. The candidate deftly turned these demands aside, asserting “that’s not how democracy works.”

    Illegal alien amnesty failed in 2007 when it was called the McCain-Kennedy Bill, and it will fail today for the same reason—a majority of Republicans and Democrats do not support rewarding lawbreakers. Even candidate Obama acknowledged that it is “also true that the presence of so many illegal immigrants makes a mockery of all those who are trying to immigrate legally.”

    If amnesty (“comprehensive reform”) will not pass Congress and Obama will not issue an Executive Order, how will he get the “undocumented Democrat” vote?

    The 2010 reelection of the wildly unpopular Sen. Harry Reid in Nevada provides the answer. There, challenger Sharon Angle won all but Clark County (Las Vegas), where Reid’s pro-illegal DREAM (Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors) Act rhetoric coupled with union members bused to the polls gave Harry the win.

    Lesson: Mobilize the immigrant vote by promising amnesty. Don’t antagonize citizen voters by actually delivering amnesty. Count on the unions to fund the campaign and bus in the union member voters.

    Last week, a former U.S. intelligence agent told ABC News in San Diego that Hezbollah has training camps in Mexico. The stats on illegal immigration (however manipulated) still show thousands of OTM (Other Than Mexican) apprehensions every year, including young Muslim men from terrorist enclaves.

    Securing the border is about more than protecting American jobs, more even than protecting the rule of law. It’s about national security. It’s about the survival of the United States as a sovereign country.

    To candidate Obama, the border is just about getting reelected.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43474
    ________________

    That and an excuse for paving the way for his own BC problems.

  • tim

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43009299

    “Niall Ferguson’s 4 Reasons Why US Dominance Is Over”

    Makes me sad that so many millions of Americans feel this and see this, and yet the elites in the press and this govt will not see it let alone do anything to turn it around, Waffles is going around reading books like “Post American World” (on how to manage the decline rather than fight that decline), he and his america-loathing wife along with the political elites will not be affected, the middle class will have a lower standard of living for decades to come, and it will come gradually. Like the slowing rising mississippi river in the midwest, people know this slow disaster is coming, and yet no one is putting their politcal life/career on the line to fight tooth and nail to turn it around, tell Americans the truth and turn it around, this will only mean more control by the govt and more debt, less freedom to control one’s own destiny.
    Its like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

  • pm317

    Even if some don’t want to go as far as calling it a constitutional crisis, they still have to recognize the pattern of undemocratic excesses going on while the principals spew some fake ‘inspirational’ gobbledygook..

    Undemocratic excesses starting from his very first election — 1) getting rid of your opponent by extra-judicial means and robbing people of choice; 2) again similar shenanigans in the senate election; 3) caucus frauds; 4) money/donation questions; 5) making press/media impotent by ‘unknown’ means robbing people of an objective arbitrator; 6) keeping everything about your past actions/decisions/heritage secret and fighting requests for public records by extra-judicial means or by making people fools for asking and on and on (add your own).

    The end result of all of this in a democracy is to make people feel helpless. Ask yourself why there was a need for a guy like “Terry Lakin” to arise in a democracy and not only that then pay the price for asking a simple question that should have been answered in the normal course of vetting by standard rules? At least with a dictatorship, you know where you stand as a citizen.

    The irony is most people believe his facade and people like us lament in which case what is the harm to democracy? Should we say thank god for term limits and quadrennial elections for the presidency?

  • JanH

    So sad…

    Third worker dies at Japan’s troubled nuclear plant

    Agence France-Presse May 14, 2011 8:00 AM

    TOKYO — A worker at Japan’s tsunami-crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant died on Saturday, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co said, bringing the death toll at the complex to three since a massive earthquake and tsunami in March.

    Despite the prolonged nuclear crisis, Prime Minister Naoto Kan is set to announce at a G8 summit in France that Japan will keep using nuclear power, the Yomiuri newspaper said.

    The cause of the worker’s death was unknown. The man, in his 60s, was employed by one of Tokyo Electric’s contractors and started working at the plant on Friday. He was exposed to 0.17 millisieverts of radiation on Saturday, Tokyo Electric said.

    The Japanese government’s maximum level of exposure for male workers at the plant is 250 millisieverts for the duration of the effort to bring it under control.

    The worker fell ill 50 minutes after starting work at 6:00 a.m. on Saturday (2100 GMT on Friday) and brought to the plant’s medical room unconscious. He was later moved to a nearby hospital and confirmed dead, a Tokyo Electric spokesman said.

    Working conditions at the plant are harsh. Goshi Hosono, a special adviser to Prime Minister Naoto Kan and a ruling Democratic Party lawmaker, voiced concerns about the working environment at the Fukushima complex on Wednesday.

    “I would like to spend my energy to improve working conditions. Many people told us working environment (at the plant) is way too bad,” Hosono told a news conference.

    The March quake and tsunami triggered cooling system malfunctions at the plant, and caused radiation to leak into the atmosphere and the sea, prompting Kan to review Japan’s nuclear-leaning energy policy from scratch.

    Kan plans to tell the G8 summit at the end of May in Deauville, France, that Japan will rely more on renewable energy, but it will also enhance safety of atomic power and continue nuclear power usage, making it clear the country is not withdrawing from nuclear power generation, the Yomiuri said.

    Engineers are still struggling to bring the Fukushima plant under control. Two Tokyo Electric employees went missing while patrolling the plant soon after the quake and were later found dead.

    The government plans to soon unveil a timetable to show how it aims to proceed with the nuclear crisis-related steps such as containing the radiation leak, and investigating the cause of the accident, the Asahi newspaper said.

    In what might be a fresh hurdle to bringing the troubled plant under control, Tokyo Electric said it found a large amount of water in the basement of the building that houses the No.1 reactor at the Fukushima plant.

    It is likely that water that was injected into the reactor to cool it down leaked out into the basement, a Tokyo Electric official said.

    http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Third+worker+dies+Japan+troubled+nuclear+plant/4784799/story.html

  • tim

    “The end result of all of this in a democracy is to make people feel helpless.”

    Agreed, and that we are subjects rather than citizens, and Col. Lakin was not just some private in the army, this is a air force colonel who had been in the US military for decades, he was not avoiding going overseas to Afghanistan or Iraq, he had already served overseas a couple of times. He had a legimitate question, and the US military slapped him, and even worse the supposed CIC, coward in chief refused to even release his BC (lets say it is real for argument’s sake), just to score political capital and so therefore a member of the US military served in jail just even though it could have been prevented by the coward in chief.

    So we have a coward in chief who will in an instant throw members of the US military under the bus for his own political gain.

  • pm317

    The Repubs should wait to pass an amnesty bill until they have a Rubio on their ticket. Teach the Dims their own tricks.

  • pm317

    Anybody following this? I will post Nikki Haley’s video on this in the next comment.
    ———————
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-dreamliner-nightmare/2011/05/12/AFzqFz2G_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions

    NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C.

    This summer, the huge Boeing assembly plant here will begin producing 787 Dreamliners — up to three a month, priced at $185 million apiece. It will, unless the National Labor Relations Board, controlled by Democrats and encouraged by Barack Obama’s reverberating silence, gets its way.

  • tim

    pm317
    May 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    I am. I thought Haley did a wonderful job in her interview, this is a prime example of why Waffles’s is seen as the most anti-business, anti-growth, anti-jobs president in American history. Never has the NLRB told a company they cannot expand their business in another state, this is not about moving jobs from the state of Washington to SC, this is about Boeing not being able to expand their business in SC. The chilling effect on other businesses will be massive.
    Like when he invited cop killing sympathesizers to the WH one evening, and then the next morning praises the cop heros that were killed in the line of duty.

    Says one thing one time, another thing another time, the only common thread, whose votes can he gain.

  • pm317

    this is about Boeing not being able to expand their business in SC..
    ——————
    Because they are a ‘right to work’ state? Don’t they allow unions there? what is the story?

  • tim

    pm317
    May 14th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Yes, SC is a right work to state, but the thing with right to work state vs non ones is that there is no forced joining of unions as a condition of employment. You can still join a union in a right to work state, it is not a condition for continued/new employment. That is main difference.

    Boeing is not moving those 2000 jobs already in Wash. state to SC, they want to build a new plant in SC, add 1000 jobs, and the NLRB does not want that, which is unheard off! This has never ever happened, where some unelected board in DC tells a private company they cannot expand their business to their state of choice. So essentially the govt is controlling the decisions of a private company, so the chilling effect will be, if a private company cannot expand, operate how they see fit, what’s to stop them from expanding overseas rather than deal with the nonsense they may to deal with in the US, with the NLRB telling them where and how they can expand.

    They can say no to expanding in another state, they cant stop these private companies from moving these jobs overseas. This has to be one of the brazen and chilling decisions I have seen.

  • turndownobama

    Corsi wrote the WND article I quoted at May 13th, 2011 at 11:31 pm which includes an image of Nordyke’s lfbc of 1961 which shows “Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.” That term is used in Corsi’s text also.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Out of the back of my head, I heard them inteviewing Bush II. He said he was glad that they had gotten BL, but he did not think it was something to celebrate about. I finally found something to agree with him on, amazing.

  • turndownobama

    Here’s a readable introduction to the parent side of the Natural Born Citizen issue. Includes text of the resolution re McCain.

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185305

  • lisaque

    Did anyone notice in the clip from pm317 that Harry had a black eye and his arm in a sling. (could this be voter abuse).

  • pm317

    I don’t know how many of you were aware that Google’s blogger had a crash and outage of more than 48 hours making blogspot.com bloggers inaccessible. There was also dataloss it looks like and don’t know how much of the original content has been restored. As Althouse rightly points out, the outage notice was also misleading indicating that the inaccessible blog ‘was removed’ and not ‘temporarily inaccessible’. Weird kind of stuff and everything is concealed — I could only find one article talking about the crash. If you use Google docs extensively and had this happened to Google docs (which I heard has happened before), you would be inconvenienced a whole lot more. I don’t like one company having so much control over access to how information is disseminated.

  • pm317

    lisaque, we wish, ;) Apparently he took a fall jogging..

  • wbboei

    Mike Marks
    May 14th, 2011 at 4:59 am
    Wbboei@6:10PM
    ———————
    I want to thank you and Turndown. This is exactly what my friend and I were looking for in terms of a response. Needless to say, the case must be air tight, and that is problematic in view of the cover-up which has occurred. Beyond that, I hope that you find the time to look into this matter yourself, even though you are more focused on the natural born citizen issue.

    Let me see if I can summarize accurately the objections the two of you have raised to the case which my friend and I have proffered.

    Turndown’s position appears to be as follow: while the document Obama proffered as his birth certificate does contain discepancies,those discrepancies are harmless error and do not amount to fraud. She seems to accept the proposition that this is the original document, but argues that the real issue is the fact that he concealed it.

    Your position appears to be as follows: you are open to the idea that the document is fraudulent, but do not believe the case I have laid out is sufficient to establish that conclusion. Specifically, you dispute my friend’s recollection of Obama’s words, and whether he represented that this was his original birth certificate, as opposed to a facsimile updated to reflect subsequent events.

    Your question could be cleared up quite easily if we had an honest press corps in this country. All it would take would be one simple straight forward question from a harpy like Jake Tapper, but he does not dare ask it because he knows it would end his career, and could adversely affect ABC’s access: ” Mr. President, just to be clear, is the document you introduced to the country a few days ago to prove that you were born in Hawaii THE ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE issued by the State of Hawaii at the time you were born?–a simple yes or no will do”.

    Big media does not dare ask him that question, and if they did, he would be inclined to avoid it through sarcasm, nuance and evasion. Thus, it falls upon the American People to examine his exact words and evaluate their plain meaning.

    As to the first part, I did not watch the press conference myself, relied entirely on my friend’s recollections and said as much in my posting. However, since she is among other things a researcher and political speech writer, I seriously doubt that her recollection would deviate materially from the facts. But in the interest of presenting an air tight case you refer to, I think we do need the transcript, so we can see for ourselves how he may try to wiggle out of it.

    On that fine point, we must be mindful of the fact that Obama is inclined to conflate facts and create false analogies. In his world, there is no such thing as proportionality. Without batting an eye he equates a hang nail to terminal cancer since they are both infirmities and to say that two men are alike since neither one of them is named John. Nobody in big media calls him on it, even though exaggeration is a form of lying.

    Finally, “plain meaning” is a rule of contract construction–a way to determine the intentions of the parties, when they are later subject to dispute. It draws its essence from the words used and the context in which they were uttered.

    In this case, Obama was asked by Donald Trump repeatedly to produce his long form birth certificate which was issued by the state of Hawaii to prove that he was born in the United States as he alleges. Whereupon he belatedly produced a document which he characterized as “the real deal” to put the matter to rest, so they could move on with other matters.

    When you or I are asked to produce a birth certificate we produce the original document. If we produce something that purports to be our birth certificate, but is altered or amended it would be deemed at best an altered document and at worst a forgery. Furthermore, a birth certificate is a document which is issued at or near the time of birth not something which is created forty seven years later. Simply put, if this is a facsimile updated for subsequent events, then it is NOT “the real deal”. And, if it is not the real deal, and he claims that it was then this is not the first time, and he is guilty of fraud.

    What I am suggesting to you here is a different way of looking at this matter which takes it beyond the realm of conjecture, and rankest speculation, and into the realm of logic and common sense. Put differently, if this was not the original document but a facsimile, then he had an obligation to disclose it in the moment. In that case, he has not proven his case and is guilty of bad faith.

  • turndownobama

    Turndown’s position appears to be as follow: while the document Obama proffered as his birth certificate does contain discepancies,those discrepancies are harmless error and do not amount to fraud.

    ===================

    None of the issues I examined appear to be “errors.” ‘Kenya’ and ‘Maternity and Gynecological Hospital’ were normal terms at that time among whites, M&G appearing on other lfbc’s of the period and earlier. ‘African’ was in use BY Africans then and earlier in contexts where whites might refer to them as ‘Negroid’ etc.

  • turndownobama

    wbb,

    Overall, I said before I looked into those details, that the Kenya, M&G, and African issues would need a LOT of background research before you could claim them as important evidence. I said that even a few counter-examples would shoot them down. Then I went and found such counter-examples myself.

    Imo the same objection applies to the serial number. To claim it as an important discrepency (or “error”) you’d have to get very familiar with the usual HI policy in 1961 which you say HI refuses to disclose.

    That’s looking at what you might get a real court to consider. In a court of public opinion. most people are not going to look at such issues as HI numbering at all.

  • wbboei

    I agree Turndown. We need to drill down further on some of these points. The court we need to prove our case in is not a judicial body, but the court of public opinion. The allegations create a prima facie case, but we must be prepared as well for the rebuttal. Your points are duly noted and I will pass them along to my friend.

  • Mike Marks

    Wbboei@12:34PM

    I agree with everything you say. But let’s look further. This issue is being confused by different opinions on what the goal is and Trump is inadvertently partially responsible for muddying these waters, although I’m glad that he at least brought it up. Is the goal to produce an original LFBC or is the goal to provide information to the public to prove that he was born in Hawaii? The Fraud is trying to claim that it is the latter and by providing the additional information COPIED directly from his LFBC (the real deal), but not directly releasing the original document, he is fulfilling that goal. That’s my interpretation of what I see him doing.

    But what’s the bottom line here? People seem to be looking for one of two outcomes from this BC issue. The first is proof that he wasn’t born in Hawaii, the second is the discovery of some unknown information contained in the LFBC that he doesn’t want known. I don’t think either can be satisfactorily resolved until the document is presented in court and people are put under oath. That doesn’t seem to be imminent and is why it seems to be a stalemate at this point.

    I haven’t come across any convincing evidence from any source that he wasn’t born in Hawaii; the grandmother’s statement wasn’t under oath and was in Swahili to boot. Would the LFBC tell us otherwise? Who knows? As for damaging info, it’s a plausible theory due to the amount of time and money spent to fight its release but, again, it seems like a fishing expedition without tangible evidence of what might be in there.

    All aspects of the Fraud’s eligibility should have been resolved at the same time that Senate hearings were held to resolve McCain’s eligibility. At one time, I would have agreed that the press could settle the issue but not anymore. A court determination is the only thing that would resolve it for me now. In its absence, I’m sticking with the NBC aspect as the more convincing claim of his ineligibility to hold the office.

  • turndownobama

    The allegations create a prima facie case

    ================

    In the court of public opinion, I don’t think they do create a prima facie case. In the court of public opinion, Kenya and African (even before the counter-examples are given) seem like perfectly acceptable answers the family might have given. M&G doesn’t seem like a big deal — as indeed the images of other lfbc’s show it was not a big deal.

  • wbboei

    Keep in mind what we are trying to prove:

    a. first, that he produced a document which purports to be his long form birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.

    b. second, that when he produced the document, he assured the country that this was the original birth certificate.

    c. third, that the external characteristics of this document establish that this is not the original birth certificate, and/or-

    d. fourth, that the internal assertions in this document establish that that this is not the original birth certificate.

  • pm317

    wbboei, I think the BC ‘ship’ has sailed, I am afraid. The next argument can be why did he take so long to release it and where are all the other records and why the secrecy? and repeat that the media protects him and there never was a vetting. Somebody else suggested here that Trump should take Lakin with him everywhere. Meanwhile Huckster is saying “Once I Pull the Trigger Saturday Night, Things Will Get Even Crazier, As If That’s Possible” — what does that mean? Pull the trigger?

  • Mike Marks

    Wbboei@2:30PM

    As mentioned previously, I think proving (b) is problematic. He assured the country that he was providing information missing from the short form that was contained in the long form pertaining to his being born in Hawaii (hospital, witnesses, etc) in an attempt to put the issue to rest. Only the media claimed that he was releasing a facsimile of the actual original document, as far as I can tell. But I could have missed something.

    The court of public opinion will not believe anything it doesn’t want to believe, even if your case is airtight. A court of law is what’s needed.

    Did you ever try to convince someone in the court of public opinion that Obama didn’t have enough pledged delegates to declare himself the primary winner on June 3, 2008? Here’s the DNC Rules straight from their website, here’s Obama’s pledged delegate count on June 3, 2008 – case closed, followed by silence, smirk, “racist!”.

  • turndownobama

    Are you objecting because it’s a photocopy? HI can hardly be expected to tear the page out of their book, or send the book itself out of their office.

    I’m sure the certified photocopy that HI sent is available for physical inspection (by chosen people of course) at the WH.

    The HI officials know what they handed over, and surely have the digital file of their photocopy. If the WH web image did not match their copy, they could object.

  • turndownobama

    The next argument can be why did he take so long to release it and where are all the other records and why the secrecy?

    ===============

    Yes. That is a strong, understandable argument. Either there is something embarrassing in the other records, or Obama has been playing silly games for years. This argument depends on the lfbc being legit and NOT embarrassing.

  • turndownobama

    Mike,

    What do you mean by ‘facsimile’? Apparently the image at WH gov is from a photocopy of an actual page in a book of records: you can see the curvature of the page.

    The HI office printed it out on security paper which was not curved, but that doesn’t make the whole thing a ‘facsimile’.

    / Going out in the sunshine now /

  • wbboei

    Turndown, what you appear to be saying is the examples cited are not even discrepancies but accurate answers to the questions posed.

    For example, you say ‘African’ was in use BY Africans then and earlier in contexts where whites might refer to them as ‘Negroid’ etc.

    You have got to consider the context. First of all, that document was prepared by a government official. Second, the government had established specific terms for each racial category. Third, the word which the government used at that time for someone which we today would call African American was not African but negroid. Fourth, when my friend married an African American in 1968 and had his child in 1970 the word that appeared on the birth certificate issued by a mid west state was negroid. Fifth, the people who prepare these birth certificates can be counted upon to use the terminology provided by the government–free thinking, avante garde thinking etc is not encouraged. Again, we must be careful not to judge these matters on th basis of today’s standards. They must be judged by the standards which existed at the time. African was not a racial category at that time, which a government official charged with a legal duty to fill out an accurate form would have entered. Therefore, this document was not prepared at the time of his birth.

  • Mike Marks

    TDO@2:56PM

    I’m just looking for someone other than the HI Health officials to confirm that what was released is exactly what’s in the book, without alteration. I haven’t heard anyone confirm that, but I might have missed it.

    Last year, one of the HI health officials (Fukino, I believe) actually declared in one of her statements that Obama was a “natural born citizen”, without there being an agreed-upon definition of that term. I haven’t trusted the word of those officials since.

  • wbboei

    Thank you Turndown. Your point made me realize that on the question of negroid, the argument needs to be further developed so that people do not dismiss its significance.

  • wbboei

    I’m just looking for someone other than the HI Health officials to confirm that what was released is exactly what’s in the book, without alteration. I haven’t heard anyone confirm that, but I might have missed it.
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    I assume you mean some independent authority. If not then Governor Neil Abercrombe would confirm it I am sure. If memory serves, he is on record as saying that he was present at the creation and personally witnessed the birth of Obama. Therefore, we can be equally certain that he witnessed the birth certificate which was issued at that time, entered into the book and will gladly confirm that there have been no alterations. Among his many other attributes and virtues, Neil is a lying sack of shit.

  • Mike Marks

    Wbboei@3:20PM

    Agreed on all counts. He also publicly claimed that he was going to settle the BC controversy once and for all but never did.

  • wbboei

    As mentioned previously, I think proving (b) is problematic. He assured the country that he was providing information missing from the short form that was contained in the long form pertaining to his being born in Hawaii (hospital, witnesses, etc) in an attempt to put the issue to rest. Only the media claimed that he was releasing a facsimile of the actual original document, as far as I can tell. But I could have missed something.
    ———————
    Thank you. That is important. It does implicate item b. Lets dig into it and see what we can find. I will let my friend know. If it is accurate, then he has once again failed to produce a document which he has the legal right to produce, then there is no closure, the issue is still open, and it is no longer a matter of delay which is hard enough to explain but willful obfuscation.

    As far as the court of public opinion is concerned, there are three factions: the believers, the non believers and the agnostics. We need to pitch our case to the agnostics.

  • wbboei

    Mike Marks
    May 14th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Wbboei@3:20PM

    Agreed on all counts. He also publicly claimed that he was going to settle the BC controversy once and for all but never did.
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    What can we say by way of testimonial about honest public servants like Neil except that when the leave public life they will be sorely missed.

  • Shadowfax

    This whole birth certificate and natural born citizen thing is really depressing when you think of a country that does not have leaders that will stand up and investigate Obama’s legal document to make sure it was legit. Where is the forensic evidence, witnesses, and hospital documents brought forth to compare with what Obama has showed the public?

    I can’t help thinking of someone in Europe, Germany, that wrote a book, saying exactly what his plans were to eliminate some of his fellow citizens. How there were followers that saw it a good opportunity to reap the lives and money of those people and yet, why did the population in GENERAL feel helpless in stopping it?

    Why do our leaders and citizen’s feel helpless in finding out the truth about Obama? The Republican’s went after Monika’s blue dress like bloodhounds, but now with Obama they are willing to sweep it under the rug, or just look the other way.

    Will this ‘evidence’ be brought forth after he is out of office, after the damage has been done, and after this loophole in the ‘natural born’ definition in the Constitution has let in more ‘illegal to run’ crooks in to run our country?

    What the Hell is our oversight committee doing? Someone kick their freakin’ chair and wake them up!!! Almost three years of snoring and citizens are no further ahead in knowing who is fraud really is.

    If the Donald runs, is he going to stop talking about Obama’s history? Is he risking a possible nomination and chance to fix our country by perusing this line of attack on Obama??

  • wbboei

    wbboei, I think the BC ’ship’ has sailed, I am afraid. The next argument can be why did he take so long to release it and where are all the other records and why the secrecy? and repeat that the media protects him and there never was a vetting. Somebody else suggested here that Trump should take Lakin with him everywhere. Meanwhile Huckster is saying “Once I Pull the Trigger Saturday Night, Things Will Get Even Crazier, As If That’s Possible” — what does that mean? Pull the trigger?
    ——————————–
    That is the other concern. But if it is explained properly it really isn’t moot because the issue has changed. Now, he has produced a birth certificate and we have a right to evaluate it. The public appetite may be thin, but the public has the attention span of a flea, so this is hardly a new problem. All we need is a new hook.

  • Shadowfax

    The Huckster –

    Please be patient if I don’t respond immediately to an email because I expect that once I pull the trigger Saturday night, things will get even crazier, as if that’s possible.

    ————–
    “Pull the trigger” = announce he is running, or announce he is pulling out of the race.

    “things will get even crazier..” = why would they get crazier if he runs, that is what his party has expected. To me, pulling out will make things crazier for him, people will wonder why when he was the prime choice for his party.

  • Shadowfax

    And little Barry’s bump is gone…………..

    http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

    Killing Binny didn’t get a rise for Barry for very long.

    The thrill of the one night stand is over.
    Too bad, so sad. :lol: Get bit Barry!!

  • Shadowfax

    A match made in heaven…

    Michael Moore to join Keith Olbermann’s Current TV program

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/306708

  • Shadowfax

    The Obama administration approved 204 new waivers to Democrats’ healthcare reform law over the past month, bringing the total to 1,372.

    The waivers are temporary and only apply to one provision of the law, which requires health plans to offer at least $750,000 worth of annual medical benefits before leaving patients to fend for themselves. Still, Republicans have assailed the waivers as a sign of both favoritism and of major problems with the law.

    “The fact that over 1,000 waivers have been granted….

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/161203-hhs-approves-200-more-new-healthcare-reform-waivers-

  • Mrs. Smith

    A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY

    Gallup: Most still question Obama’s birth

    Less than 1/2 of Americans say prez ‘definitely’ born in U.S.

    Looks like that ship is in dry dock-

    The White House called it “proof positive” of Barack Obama’s Hawaiian birth but there still are significant numbers of Americans – tens of millions in fact – who don’t believe the online image of a “Certificate of Live Birth” represents the full and open truth.

    According to a new Gallup Poll reported by USA Today, only 47 percent of those surveyed say they think Obama “definitely” was born in the United States.

    An additional 18 percent say he “probably was.”

    But the poll, taken May 5-8 of 1,018 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, shows that 5 percent say he definitely was born elsewhere, another 8 percent say he probably was born elsewhere and 20 percent say they don’t know enough to say.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=298501

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Still, Republicans have assailed the waivers as a sign of both favoritism and of major problems with the law.”
    ________________________

    Is “favoritism” a word substitute for discrimination?

  • turndownobama

    First of all, that document was prepared by a government official. Second, the government had established specific terms for each racial category. Third, the word which the government used at that time for someone which we today would call African American was not African but negroid. Fourth, when my friend married an African American in 1968 and had his child in 1970 the word that appeared on the birth certificate issued by a mid west state was negroid. Fifth, the people who prepare these birth certificates can be counted upon to use the terminology provided by the government

    ================

    As with the ‘Mat&Gyn’, even one counter-example would shoot this down: ie, some other HI lfbc of the period that shows some non-standard term (eg nationality) for ‘Race’. To stake credibility on this, as with the other things, you’d need to be VERY familiar with what actually went on in the HI hospitals at that time. You can’t just apply what some other state did. Even if the HI /rulebook/ said x,y, and z, we’d have to know how closely the people on the ground actually followed that rule book. (Especially when dealing with a tall fierce, er, African and/or a fierce White Guilt mother and grandparents.) Sorry to recommend a Bot site, but there is relevant discussion of different localities’ practices at different times at
    obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/

    For one thing, the rules for filling out ‘race of baby’ and ‘race of parent’ are sometimes different.

    Another thing that could shoot this down would be a copy of a HI 1960s worksheet, to see which answers for ‘parent’s race’ were suggested and whether Other ____ was allowed.

    This is not like a crime drama where someone has to make an instant final decision based on scraps of evidence. The complete evidence (other lfbc’s, worksheets, etc) isn’t going anywhere; it’s out there. The more we stir the question, the more Hawaiians will come out of the woodwork with their evidence. We need to be guided by the whole truth — and not make dubious claims.

    In civil law (or in a public debate), a dubious claim may get victory because it’s up to the other side to defend against it. But in the court of wise public opinion, we’ll be judged on whether we did our homework and vetted our own claims before making them.

  • Shadowfax

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=298501

    What did I miss?

    Every time I look at that copy of the BC I stare at it with eyes full of WTF?

    I can’t imagine how that cut on the left side has a longer image of paper, disconnected and curling under.

    What is that all about? Did someone explain this?

  • Carol

    The Republicans aren’t stupid or crazy but they are stuck in their sound bite politics.
    I believe Trump is a moderate with great appeal to the middle. The rethugs are stuck at far right….taking down needed programs like medicare and ss.
    Trump scares all the professional politicians because he can win and because his win would delegitimaize the corrupt political hacks.

  • turndownobama

    Shadowfax,

    It’s scanned/photographed from a big book of records. We’re seeing the curve of the open book and a little of the facing page. If you place an open book face down on your scanner you’ll get a similar effect.

    The scanned image was printed out onto green-patterend security paper. We can see the curve of the lettering from the book but the patten on the paper is not curved.

    Btw I’d suggest referring to the image at whitehouse.gov instead of at WND.

  • BASIL99

    What’s going on with Huckabee?

    I read he was going to announce his POTUS intentions tonight during his 8 p.m. show. I just went to TV Guide and the listing at 8 p.m. is for MLB.

    I’m no MH supporter but did someone pull the plug on his show for tonight? Seems awfully weird after so many blogs, mags, websites and media have been hyping this announcement.

    Anyone know what’s happening?

  • wbboei

    I believe Trump is a moderate with great appeal to the middle. The rethugs are stuck at far right….taking down needed programs like medicare. Trump scares all the professional politicians because he can win and because his win would delegitimaize the corrupt political hacks.
    —————————–
    Absolutely right. The game which exists today favors a certain set of business interests, political leaders and the Washington DC establishment. At the same time, it destroys the middle class and it deconstructs America as we know it. That is what change means.

    Trump is the true “Game Changer”. He did not pass through all the chairs of the party where every special interest on that side of the line gets a piece of his hide. And he is indeed a moderate, and in some respects a liberal, as that term was historically understood.

    O’Reilly has this tag line looking out for you. What is rhetoric for O’Reilly is reality for Trump. You can make book on it.

  • wbboei

    Gallup: Most still question Obama’s birth
    ——————————-
    In which case the issue remains viable, despite the earnest desire of big media to close the record on it to Obama’s advantage.

  • wbboei

    Is “favoritism” a word substitute for discrimination?
    —————-
    or reverse discrimination, as in affirmative action for a fee.

  • wbboei

    And little Barry’s bump is gone…………..

    http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
    ———————–
    Sic transit gloria mundi–all glory is fleeting. Oh but there are still the Obama dolls for impressionable children and Obama supporters aka useful idiots to play with. These dolls portray the cowardly Obama as James Bond, a karate expert and I am sure Richard the Lion hearted for his deadly takedown of Osama. The fact that he did not do it, is of no moment. So far the only buyer is Howard Feinman who is a case of arrested development.

  • wbboei

    The Obama administration approved 204 new waivers to Democrats’ healthcare reform law over the past month, bringing the total to 1,372.

    The waivers are temporary and only apply to one provision of the law, which requires health plans to offer at least $750,000 worth of annual medical benefits before leaving patients to fend for themselves. Still, Republicans have assailed the waivers as a sign of both favoritism and of major problems with the law.

    “The fact that over 1,000 waivers have been granted….
    —————————–
    Tinkers to Evers to Chance.

    1. note who the beneficiaries of those thousand waivers were.

    2. check his donor list to see if they are also contributors to him or to affiliated organizations.

    3. if the correlation is strong, then call it what it is: pay to play thug tactics of the Chicago Machine.

    4. argue that the Machine has taken over the federal government.

    5. show the image of Obama as a ghoul

    6. fade to black

  • AmericanGal

    Basil99, Titan TV tv listings online have Huckabee listed for my area. Perhaps whatever you consulted for the shows tonight just had an error.

  • BASIL99

    AmericanGal,

    I don’t know. I checked earlier, around 5, when I got back from an event and Huckabee was listed at 8 p.m. Then, when I checked again MLB was listed.

    Not that I’m a big Huckabee fan but I was curious to hear what he has to say.

    Oh well. Maybe it’s nothing. I will check tomorrow to hear what, if anything, he announced.

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • BASIL99

    AmericanGal,

    HA has an open thread about it so I guess it’s still on – just not in my region.

    Thanks.