April Is The Besterest Month

Let’s play ‘quote, quote, who’s got the quote?’

On this glorious first day of May we quote our first post of April in which we quoted long-time Dimocrat Bob Shrum on the last day of March:

Robert Shrum, had this to say on the last day of March:

April is the unforgiving month that will make or break the Obama presidency. It will be a fitting climacteric for a half-term in power that has been an unremitting succession of crises. This month, from Moammar Gadhafi to the U.S. Capitol, Barack Obama will have to master events or see his credibility — and America’s — degraded, and his political future — and his party’s — imperiled.

It’s too late Bob. Time for the “A” Team.

April was supposed to be the month Obama would rise to the top. Instead Obama sunk lower.

On this glorious first day of May, with April results completely in, we quote from Dimocrat Dean Debnam of Dimocratic tilted Public Policy Polling:

“’April has definitely not been a good month for Barack Obama,” PPP’s Dean Debnam said.”

The Washington Times editorial, on the last day of April, unwittingly summed it up for us by quoting from T.S. Eliot:

April is the cruelest month,” T.S. Eliot warned, and particularly for President Obama. The White House had been enjoying a robust run-up in the polls since the “shellacking” of Democrats in November’s midterm elections, but over the last month, Mr. Obama was back in freefall.”

Couldn’t happen to a boobier boob. Il boobo di tutti boobi. The boobiest. April was a booberama. It was a boobapalooza. You may quote us.

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  1. April was a booberama. It was a boobapalooza. You may quote us.

    😆

    April was supposed to be the month Obama would rise to the top. Instead Obama sunk lower.

    The link to this quote from Admin, shows the kool-aid media pack booing Trump. What they don’t show is the long conversation he had with that media before he walked away, and then they started the boos. Maybe they booed because he left? Who knows, they don’t show the interview they gave him. I was watching in real time then, and I know this is when Trump and his wife walked away from the press and into the main room.

  2. NYT MONDAY: Dem strategists believe Obama faces ‘tougher-than-anticipated’ re-election… Developing…

  3. I would be remiss if I did not give attribution for my above link to
    Tony Stark.. Thanks Tony- It was getting dreary with the doomsday gloommies who feel beat up, without a lick of faith left today.

  4. From the end of the last thread:

    If you don’t understand how the law works and get hung up on bits and pieces of it you’ll just have to wait and see how this enfolds… fair enough?

    I didn’t say I don’t understand any of how the law works, just that I haven’t taken legal classes. I do know the law is a lot about interpretation, so even people who have taken law classes – even people who actually have a LAW DEGREE – disagree on this issue. So I imagine everyone has to wait – no one has the corner on this prediction. Fair enough?

  5. Mrs. Smith – what does “faith” have to do with the law? I thought we were a secular government lol

  6. NYT MONDAY: Dem strategists believe Obama faces ‘tougher-than-anticipated’ re-election… Developing…
    ——————-
    Well fuck them, i.e. NYT–those lying bastards. When his strongest ally signals he is in trouble that is significant. Especially since up to now they have been promoting the narrative of how weak the opposition party is. That is a fact, they are weak, but obama is weaker and has a bad record to defend. No hope, no change, and is all he can slogan now is winning the future, other people will take a look at what this asshole had done up to now and say we need change not him.

  7. When Obama produced his LFBC and it stated his father was a British subject and a Kenyan Citizen, he never seemed surprised or embarrassed or realized his coverup of that fact was revealed by his own hand in spite of taken an oath with McCain stating he was sure he could prove he is a Natural Born Citizen. Maybe his place of birth can’t be challanged but he stepped in it revealing his father was not a US Citizen and he lied under oath to cover up that fact.

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    That could fit the facts. That would be a reason for concealing the LF till forced to reveal it. By now maybe he had assurance that the courts would cover for him anyway. Or decided that his best chance was to go ahead and bluff it, making fun of Trump, etc — hoping no one would listen to the few who would make the connection.

    Still, I thought it was already common knowledge that Obama Sr was not a US citzen etc.

  8. Until the current US Supreme Court issues a new ruling on who is an NBC, Minor v. Happersett is the last word on the subject, especially where the Court expressed its doubt that the definition included “children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.”

  9. So Obama’s big accomplishment in April was to release a digital copy (!) of the BC and heckling Trump for forcing him to release it.

  10. Here in an interesting comment on Texasdarlin blog

    I am a former student at the University of Hawaii.

    The last time I was at the Outrigger Canoe Club it was not in
    Waikiki Beach. The Outrigger Canoe Club was next door to the Elk’s Club in Diamond Head. Diamond Head is East of Waikiki Beach.

    Barack Obama II was born a Subject of the Sultan of Zanzibar. His dad came to America on a British Protected
    Person’s Passport that stated for nationality “ARAB”.

    From my telecoms with the Home Office in London the listing
    of ARAB was not to state Barack Obama Sr. was an Arab. It
    ment that he was a Subject of an Arab Sultan of Zanzibar.

    Because of the Zanzibar Naturalization Decree of 1919,
    Barack Obama II, at birth, like his father and was a
    Subjects of the Sultan of Zanzibar.

    Remember that in 1949, Barack Obama’s grandfather was
    convicted for being one of the first 19 Mau Mau terrorist.
    He got released in 1951, because of legal error, viz., charged
    as a Subject of King George VI, when in fact he was a Subject
    of the Sultan of Zanzibar.

    If it was not for the fact that Barack Obama Sr. was a Subject
    of the Sultan of Zanzibar, because of the 1919 naturalization
    of Barack Obama’s Sr.’s father, he could not have left Kenya
    to go to the University of Hawaii, because the British Goverment practice at the time was to reject passport applications of children of convicted terrorist. However,
    being a Subject of the Sultan of Zanzibar prevented the
    British Government from not issuing a passport.

    The Zanzibar Naturization Decree of 1919 is multi-generational. Therefore, at birth, Barack Obama II was
    a subject of the Sultan of Zanzibar.

    The current Sultan of Zanzibar lives in Portsmouth, England.

    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/what-do-barbara-nelson-and-the-west-famil-think-about-obamas-long-form-internet-birth-certificate/#comments

  11. lorac
    May 1st, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Well, lorac I had “faith” you would answer my question and you haven’t.

    Do you not know the answer?
    ________________________

    lorac
    May 1st, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    The best example I can give you is the Impeachment of BC. What caught him up in the end? Do you know?

  12. Maybe it needs to be someone who is running against Obama for President, since NBC isn’t required for the Senate. Not that the SC will treat it fairly anyway.

  13. http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/04/sunday-reflection-when-jimmy-carter-your-best-case-scenario-youre-trouble

    People on the right have been comparing President Obama with Jimmy Carter for a while now: The rise from nowhere via inexplicable press adulation, the smarmy moralizing, the excessive faith in his own abilities, the tendency of everything he touches to turn to crap — all seem eerily reminiscent of the Carter presidency.

    But now it’s people on the left who are saying the same thing. Trouble is, at this point a Carter rerun is probably a best-case scenario.[snip]

    First, Obama doesn’t rely on rational description to persuade the American people, but rather on his — now seemingly shrunken — oratorical skills, without regard to substance.

    And, second, rather than pushing a program he thought was rational over the objections of the Democratic congressional leadership, Obama virtually outsourced the stimulus and health care legislation to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, producing a misshapen mass of special-interest giveways that did little for the economy or for health, and that created massive public indignation. Obama here was like Carter without the engineer’s rationality, or force of personality.

    Obama is worse in another way. Though Carter had a mean streak, he was not prone to divide and name-call in the way that Obama has done. From his remarks about bitter clingers to his administration’s increasing willingness to call any criticism racist, Obama’s administration has been far more divisive than Carter’s.

    Likewise, the Obama administration has shown a thuggish streak, involving everything from “jokes” about Internal Revenue Service audits to the recent National Labor Relations Board attack on Boeing’s factory move from a unionized plant in Washington state to a plant in South Carolina where workers had voted to go nonunion, that was not so pronounced under Carter. Call it the difference between Plains and Chicago.

    Carter looked hapless in the face of high energy prices, but Obama actually seems pleased: He announced early on that his policies would necessarily cause electricity prices to “skyrocket,” and his recent town-hall response to a man who complained about the cost of his commute was a suggestion that the man trade his car in and buy a hybrid.

    To Carter, higher energy prices were an insoluble problem; to Obama, they’re a tool to encourage Americans to live more constrained lives — and perhaps to buy a Chevy Volt from the bailed-out General Motors.

    Meanwhile, on foreign policy — another Carter weak point — Obama also looks worse. Carter blew it with Iran, encouraging the Iranian armed forces to stay in their barracks, while Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s radical Islamists (whom Carter thought of as “reformers”) took power, and then approved the ill-conceived hostage rescue mission that ended with ignominious failure in the desert. Obama, by contrast, could only wish for such success.

    At the moment, Obama is involved in three wars, and in two of them he is losing. (The third, ironically, is the war he ran against, in Iraq, where things seem to be going comparatively well).[snip]

    In Egypt, where Obama supported the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak (a reliable, if unappetizing, U.S. client) by a different bunch of reformers, polls now show the United States is disliked by three-quarters, while a similar number look favorably on the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood.

    In Syria, where there is a popular revolt against a genuine U.S. enemy, the Obama administration has been conspicuous by its absence. Apparently, Syria’s reformers don’t pass the test.

    Then, of course, there is the economy. Carter had big government, but Obama has brought us monstrous government, running up bigger deficits in the first half of his first term than Bush did in eight years and increasing the national debt by more than 50 percent.

    The stimulus, which was touted as a way of keeping unemployment below 8 percent, couldn’t even keep it out of double digits, and even now 8 percent looks pretty good by comparison with what we’ve got.

    But while all that spending didn’t stabilize unemployment as promised, it did destabilize America’s credit rating. As bad as things were under Carter, the United States wasn’t at risk of a credit downgrade, as it is now.

    Plus, inflation is beginning to ramp up, as gas and grocery prices skyrocket. Some worry that the inflation rates of the Carter era will look mild by comparison with what’s coming down the pike.

    And that’s the lesson: Up to now, comparisons with Carter were a tool of Obama’s critics. From now on, they’re likely to be a tool of his defenders. Because as bad as Carter was, Obama is shaping up to be worse. Much worse.

  14. But I don’t think that he has been humilitated in the eyes of the nation. He has already pointed out that it was the elite at that function

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    I agree. And I doubt if that many people watched it all through anyway.

  15. Still, I thought it was already common knowledge that Obama Sr was not a US citzen etc.
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    Common knowledge means nothing unless it is backed by solid tangible proof. By Trump asking for proof of his NBC Obama seems to have forgotten the paperwork he signed under oath stating he can prove he is a NBC.

  16. “‘April has definitely not been a good month for Barack Obama,” PPP’s Dean Debnam said.” PPP’s Dean Debnam said.”’

    And I hope it goes over the edge of a cliff after that for Mr. Obama in May.

  17. turndown – you’re right, it was common knowledge, and he even had it on his website, and in his book. But he was allowed to run, he was allowed (enabled) to win, and no one has been granted standing to address the issue, even with that knowledge out there. This isn’t the first evidence of him acknowledging that he knew that his father wasn’t a citizen.

    I’m hoping that Trump will push for the release of other hidden documents, and either his drawing attention to their absence, or his success in getting them released, will sway public opinion and BO will either not run or not win. My guess is that the NBC issue being finally determined is something we have to push for, but for the future, so that future candidates will be certain to be NBC. I think Trump’s pushing on BO’s character is more likely to have immediate effect than the NBC issue being conclusively decided.

  18. admin,

    I just read that scathing comparison between Carter and Mighty Mouth.

    “Though Carter had a mean streak, he was not prone to divide and name-call in the way that Obama has done.”

    Like he vicious way he slammed into Trump Saturday evening, not to mention his despicable treatment of HRC. “You’re likable enough, Hillary. I will NEVER forget that moment!

    “Carter looked hapless in the face of high energy prices, but Obama actually seems pleased: He announced early on that his policies would necessarily cause electricity prices to “skyrocket,” and his recent town-hall response to a man who complained about the cost of his commute was a suggestion that the man trade his car in and buy a hybrid.”

    Reminds me of when his wife told women to buy $400 earrings or showed up at some event wearing designer sneakers. And let’s not forget the arugala.

  19. @democrat1: Remember that in 1949, Barack Obama’s grandfather was
    convicted for being one of the first 19 Mau Mau terrorist.

    ————–
    Oh, great! Palling with terrorists is in his blood.

  20. turndown – Allen Keyes also ran for president against BO in 2008. That was what he was basing his standing on to bring the case.

  21. that it specifically refers to McCain, so “of course” it mentions two citizen parents, because that’s what he had – not that it was meant to refer to everyone – I guess their intimation is that if McCain had happened to have one citizen parent, it would have said he was an NBC because he was born to “a” citizen parent.

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    Oh, very good point! Verdict first, then trial, er, rationale.

  22. Didn’t the LFBC Mighty Mouth released last week state his father’s birth place as Kenya?

    And isn’t it true Kenya did not become a republic until 1964, not in 1961? So wouldn’t the country of origin of the father say something different?

  23. lorac:

    “and no one has been granted standing to address the issue, even with that knowledge out there. This isn’t the first evidence of him acknowledging that he knew that his father wasn’t a citizen.”
    ____________

    You are promoting incorrect information.

    Hillary was granted standing by a court in PA to pursue Obama’s Birth Status. She refused.

    And you still haven’t answered my question about Bill Clinton’s Impeachment.

  24. Mrs. Smith, I did answer it, I just didn’t directly address the patronizing.

    Bill Clinton didn’t lie in his own mind, but public opinion felt he lied. He thought that sex was intercourse – not oral sex. He thought he had intimate relations, but not sex. Many in the public felt that was still “sex”, so he was determined to have perjured himself. It’s all in the interpretation – same as with the NBC issue, until the Supreme Court definitely addresses it. Obama can say that he answered truthfully that he was an NBC, because he was – in the interpretation he believed. NBC is unfortunately not a decided issue – there are different interpretations. If it weren’t murky, how do you suppose he was able to run and win?

  25. Hillary was granted standing by a court in PA to pursue Obama’s Birth Status. She refused.

    I’ve never heard that in three years. It’s very interesting. I wonder why she was granted standing but Keyes wasn’t? Both were presidential candidates. Do you have a link?

  26. Google is your friend lorac- stop peddling BS and muddying up the water on what Obama did and did not do-

    He lied pure and simple and as much as I hated using Bill Clinton as the example, I had to prove that a LIE can get you Impeached… The fact that it took you forever to answer told me you had to look it up because you didn’t know.

    Obama is another case and point. What he has done is not simple perjury. It is a Treasonous Act and a much more serious act when the usurpation of the Presidency is involved.

    Stop bullshitting with inane suppositions you glean from watching tv shows that do nothing but cloud the issues at hand.

  27. Where is Trump’s reply to the dinner last night? I’ve checked the two sites in the link in the post and I don’t see Trump’s reply.

  28. lorac:

    “I’ve never heard that in three years. It’s very interesting. I wonder why she was granted standing but Keyes wasn’t? Both were presidential candidates. Do you have a link?
    ________________

    Thats too bad- suggest you should read more. Go to the website “Obama Crimes” and read the case of Obama’s illegibility to run brought before the PA district court by Phil Berg. The judge ruled the only party having standing to bring a case against Obama is Hillary Clinton.

    Allan Keyes is the least important fact to keep using as some sort of credential as having no standing…

  29. Mrs. Smith – cut the cr*p. I answered it on the last thread, where you presented it. I can’t help if you didn’t see it. We disagree on the issue. You don’t need to stoop to personal attacks. And generally the person who advances the issue is the one to provide the link – they don’t tell someone to google.

    You’re totally missing the point about the role of interpretation in law, and the fact that NBC is not a settled issue. Totally missing it. These two factors directly affect your argument about his “lying”. And I have no idea what tv shows you are talking about.

  30. As I said, I had never heard that a judge had said Hillary would be the only one who would have standing to challenge BO. Although, of course, if she did challenge him, it would have undoubtedly gone before a different judge, and what his judgment about her standing would have been – who knows?

    So I’m thinking, what was the difference between Keyes and Hillary? Keyes was running in republican primary, and Hillary was running in the dem primary, same as Obama. Trump will probably not be running in the dem primary against Obama, as Hillary was.

    I think the Supremes could have given any of these people standing, but didn’t want to. I hope they will change their minds. There surely have been enough cases brought up.

  31. …. unless Trump actually WINS, and it’s him vs. Obama, THEN maybe he would have standing….?

  32. Tim – it’s when the court decides that someone has a right to bring a case to them. If they decide they have standing, then they’ll hear the case. Otherwise, they won’t hear the case. I think it’s been a convenient excuse for the Supremes – because then they don’t have to hear the evidence. If they hear the evidence, they would have to take a stand on Obama. They seem to be running away from that.

  33. Well, Tim, I sort of think it’s all hokey. The people of the U.S. should have standing to make sure their presidential candidates are eligible, but regular people’s cases have been dismissed as not having standing, Keyes running in the republican primary had no standing, that military man who is supposed to defend the constitution had no standing, and even had to go to jail. It seems to me that any citizen should have been granted standing, because presidents are in our employ, so to speak….

  34. I’d like to know about this meme that Obama was magna cum laude – if we actually have proof from Harvard, or just Obama’s word? I HAVE read that Harvard gives (or did at that time?) half of each class magna – so that actually it doesn’t mean as much at that school as it would at others.

  35. “I HAVE read that Harvard gives (or did at that time?) half of each class magna – so that actually it doesn’t mean as much at that school as it would at others.”

    Its funny you say that, I know some people who used to be customers and they have family members from Haravrd law and they have stated the same thing.

  36. Regardless of whether he runs or not, the most important thing that Trump is doing right now is deconstructing the Obama myth – his eligibility to be president, his over-rated intelligence, academic achievements, cool demeanor and, hopefully, even his often-lauded athletic ability (actually, he stinks at basketball, golf, and can’t throw a baseball). This is making Trump an enemy of all media, who constructed and perpetuated the myth, as well as all establishment politicians, who see him as someone they can’t control. The WH Correspondents Dinner roast will be seen as child’s play, if Trump decides to run. I don’t doubt that he knows this, is prepared for it, and is looking forward to it.

    Realistically, though, it’s hard to see how he gets the Republican nomination, with all of the establishment Repubs dead set against it. We all saw what the establishment Dims did to Hillary; the R’s can do the same with Trump and sabotage his campaign if it looks like he’s doing too well. Hope I’m wrong, though.

    As an Independent, the conventional wisdom is that Trump would divide the anti-O vote but that may or may not be the case in this atypical year where both parties are equally despised. I don’t think anybody really knows at this point and that’s why they are scared. It’s often mentioned that Perot got 20% of the popular vote in 1992, but he also didn’t win any states. Anybody have any ideas about any states that Trump might win as an Independent in these strange times?

    Remember to ignore all head-to-head polls generated by the media – they are meaningless. Only the electoral college matters.

    Thanks again to Admin and to all who comment here.

  37. Mike Marks
    May 1st, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    I don’t see Trump running as an independent. Hannity in his interview really pressed him on this, and he was explicit, he would only run as an independent if he knows he can win, or else he stated he will not run as an independent, as that will not kick Waffles out of the WH.

  38. Obama will be speaking from the White House at the half hour mark in about 13 minutes. No one seems to know what the emergency break-in onto the national airwaves is about. Isn’t Donald Trump’s tv show on tonight? Maybe that’s it but at this point no one seems to know. It could be about the Libyan attack last night which might have killed Daffy’s family members. Maybe Daffy was killed?

  39. So far I’ve only seen them present polling of republicans about if they would vote for Trump. I think they should poll everyone, because I think some dems and indies would vote for him. Or – maybe they HAVE polled everyone – and that’s WHY they’re only presenting what the republicans think lol

  40. Geraldo says they’re having the ops guys come in for a meeting at the same time as the announcement. They say that means it’s a big deal.

  41. So the big announcement that BO is going to make at supposedly 1030 tonight is about national security???

  42. Wouldn’t it be wonderful to hear BO say that because of national security that he will not run for president in 2012!

  43. Did any of you hear Lara Logan’s story on 60 minutes?

    OMG, sexual assault is an understatement. That poor woman, she has gone though Hell and back.

    Amazing.

  44. Back to the Supreme Court ruling on the NBC issue. Wouldn’t the two nominees that O appointed have to recuse themselves on this issue since if the court rules against O, then their appointments might be invalid. How many supremes does there have to be to make a valid ruling?

  45. admin
    May 1st, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    It’s a fifteen minute speech.
    ——–
    What station Admin?

  46. also, some of NATO’s missile hit a children’s hospital. I’m trying to scan the news online.

  47. Tim @10:17PM:

    Yes, I saw that Hannity interview also and he definitely seemed to be backtracking from his previous Independent statement. But it’s hard to know what he means by “only if I know I’m going to win.” I agree, though, that I don’t think that he would purposely be a spoiler and allow the Fraud to get another 4 years.

  48. Wolf Blitzer is saying he’s been told the announcement is not about Libya or Gaddafi.

  49. CNN reporting it is not an announcement to just the USA but to the world. The WH officials are not talking…saying they do not want to upstage the president??

  50. ok, so if its not about national security, what the heck? what is more important than national security to be making a statement at 11pm on a Sunday night?

  51. If Bin Laden really is dead, I’m more scared than anything else. His followers will retaliate.

  52. I can only guess that if this a statement this late it has to be national security, and it has to be the death of Bin Laden. Heck if Bin Laden has been killed, I think that is excellent news, that freak of terrorist that killed thousands of innocents on 9/11 will finally have been killed for his crimes. And go US military for their excellent work!

    If its not this news, I cannot imagine what it is.

  53. I hope our military got him–he had kidney problems however so maybe he just kicked the bucket..

  54. AmericanGal
    May 1st, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I was thinking the same thing- his kidneys gave out.

  55. Was he killed or did he die? I read that he was very sick with kidney problems and needed a dialysis machine.

  56. So what did Obama do to kill this bastard? Proabably threatened to do his “comedy rountine” continually and send it on a gift IPOD also loaded with a medley of BO’s speeches.

    Hearing Laden was killed by bomb A WEEK AGO!

  57. He was killed a week ago, they had to test him for a DNA match, and now they can say with certainty.

    LOL Geraldo has upstaged the president’s address.

    Killed by a US missile.

  58. Bin Laden’s been dead for a week now. Odd timing for a late Sunday night “emergency” speech.

  59. So how will our Waffleman take credit for this? It is great that he was killed. But hyperventilating now about it seems kind of silly. I would have had that reaction if he was captured and killed in 2002.

  60. “Bin Laden’s been dead for a week now. Odd timing for a late Sunday night “emergency” speech.”

    Also, DNA tests do not take that long, especially on important cases like this.

    I agree the timing is very odd, I’m giving credit where it is due, I will say Thank you for the US military for finally taking out this terrorist.

  61. #
    admin
    May 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Bin Laden’s been dead for a week now. Odd timing for a late Sunday night “emergency” speech.
    _______________

    I should say so- he’s such a chicken sh*t spoiler…

  62. pm317 – I had the same reaction – kind of underwhelming. I was worried we were going into another war, or something nuclear had happened. It’s good they got him, but he hasn’t been able to do anything bad for a long time. There are new bad guys who took his place.

    admin – they say they had to do DNA testing.

  63. Also could not derail the WHCD with this news. That would have been such a missed opportunity to put Trump in his place, firing Gary Busey.

  64. It may be taking so long for BO to give his message because they are having a heck of a time getting his speech loaded into BO’s tellie!

  65. Jennifer Griffith is saying that this will be a gamechanger. The Taliban will ditch al quaida now, and be willing to negotiate. Pakistan will now go after the taliban in their country.

  66. “Never let a crisis go to waste”

    It doesn’t take a week for DNA testing and the people around OBL knew if it was him or not.

  67. If Obama weren’t always late starting his announcements, he wouldn’t have been upstaged by Geraldo (and anyone on other stations who found out)…. he’s now 1/2 late….

  68. “The Taliban will ditch al quaida now”

    I like Fox’s Griffin, but I have to disagree with her on this, this scenario of ditching al-queda is very unlikely, al-queda was already in decline, they have taken new forms now, al-sha-bab (sp?) in Yemen and in Africa; the underwear bomber and the NYC bomber were helped by al-shabab. Al-queda has already morphed into something else.

  69. ” It is great that he was killed. But hyperventilating now about it seems kind of silly. I would have had that reaction if he was captured and killed in 2002.”

    pm317 I agree with you on this, al-queda has morphed into all sorts of other terrorist organizations now, binladen started it, but its now a whole bunch of other terrorist organizations around the world.

  70. Tim, yes, I don’t know why she’s so convinced of that. It sure didn’t seem like he wielded much power anymore – but maybe she thinks his people still felt he had power…?

  71. Now there’s someone on saying that their ideology is not going to change overnight, just because he’s dead.

  72. If Obama wanted to bask in this announcement he has sure blown it by being late and letting all the news people announce it.

    Trump can stand at the 911 site tomorrow and give his response.

  73. Comment seen on another blog:

    OBAMA’S TO-DO LIST:

    1. Announce candidacy for re-election.
    2. Pull bin-Laden body out of freezer.
    3. Schedule late Sunday night “surprise” news conference to ensure “did you hear” chatter at beginning of work week.
    4. The Donald ain’t gonna fire me!!! Suck it, you comb-over white boy!

  74. Please forgive me for saying this God, but I hope Osama bin Laden died a miserable death. May he rot in hell.

  75. And we should remember that Hillary was the one in Pakistan challenging those fuckers to not provide safe heaven for Bin Laden..

  76. Cool aid drinkers on my facebook page are unbelievable one says have I told u how much she adores Obama. Interesting as I don’t remember obama doting bullets in afganistan!

  77. I can’t help but feeling so happy that this PO$ terrorist is finally killed by our brave US military, but then worried that now that he’s a martyr, all those offshoots of al-queda that are all over the place will get reenergized.

    The terrorist jihadi movement is not gone, it has just strengthened into several other strong movements. I don’t know, with all these stable middle east countries who were pro-US losing or changing, what will they change to? especially with all these terrorist offshoots getting a martyr now from this bin laden’s death.
    I don’t know, it is worrying.

  78. He was living in a mansion in Pakistan when he was killed, they’re saying. Jerk. And what will the Pakistanis have to say about this, I wonder.

  79. CNN saying that BO is going to have to go to some lengths to PROVE that it is really Bin Lauden who is dead because his supporters will deny it.

  80. Has Obama cancelled his offical announcement? Fox isn’t even talking about it anymore..

  81. Southern – they say they got DNA from his family members to compare it to.

    Maybe Obama can write to Pakistan and ask for special permission to get Osama’s long form death certificate to prove it to the naysayers lol

  82. Waffles better not be stupid enought to take credit, I will admit it, the US military and our intellegence agencies deserve full credit, I’ll even give more credit to Hillary and GWB than I will to waffles. But our US military and the intelligence agencies deserve all the credit for this, and Waffles better not use any of this to his credit! his stupid supporters will, but the general public is not that stupid especially when Waffles cannot stand having others get credit over him.

  83. I also had the opportunity to watch the fraud at the Correspondent’s dinner earlier today. I really don’t like watching or listening to him, but since I heard that he went after Mr. Trump, I wanted to hear for myself what was said right out of the jackass’ mouth. He did not disappoint with his lame dialogue. BØ declared war on Donald Trump yesterday, and now BØ better batten down the hatches because Donald will now proceed to annihilate him.

  84. Mrs. Smith
    May 1st, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Obama’s announcement just preempted Trumps show.. can’t see the ending…
    ———-
    You can watch the show online, I am missing it and the Amazing Race, Tivo can only handle so much. 😉

  85. #
    lorac
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Maybe Obama can write to Pakistan and ask for special permission to get Osama’s long form death certificate to prove it to the naysayers lol
    ———-
    LOL.. may be that is what he is doing, getting special dispensation.

  86. So, Bin Laden was living in a mansion in Islamabad? Interesting, don’t you think? He wasn’t hiding in the caves of the border region like everyone wanted to believe. He had friends in Pakistan, that is for sure.

  87. Lots of people on the internet are cynical about the timing of the White House announcement..

  88. kKdos for our men and women responsible for killing this bastard.

    So sorry the fraud will get the credit when we all know if it wasn’t for Hillary it wouldn’t have happened. So appropriate the bastard was bombed in a mansion. He gets young poor children to tie bombs around their chests for pennies so their families can eat and he was living the Vida Loca. Bastard…

  89. They not only had to do the DNA testing, but also put up the red flag to the military and American’s overseas.

  90. FOX…Countries around the world warned to take precauctions since the death of Bin Lauden is being announced.

    Also..BO has known about this for over a week now? He knew it last night when he and the SNL clown were trashing Trump? He knew it when he released his birth certificate? He knew it when he went off to play goff today??

  91. House Intelligence committee aide confirms that Osama Bin Laden is dead. U.S. has the body.
    ******

    Maybe we can put the body on tour in a carnival!

  92. Trump finds White House dinner ‘inappropriate’
    =========================

    Washington (CNN) – Donald Trump reacted to the onslaught of jokes about him by President Barack Obama and comedian Seth Meyers at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner Saturday with his own view of the events.

    “You get to a certain level and you rise to a certain level, let’s say in this case in the polls and boy, does the world come after you,” Trump, a potential 2012 candidate, said on “Fox and Friends” Sunday.

    At the event, Obama made light of Trump’s repeated calls for him to release his birth certificate, something he did Wednesday, and Meyers made fun of everything from his hair to his presidential ambition. Although Trump appeared unamused during Saturday’s dinner, he said he was honored “in a certain way” to be a focal point.

    “I really knew what I was getting into last night. I had no idea it would be to that extent where, you know just joke after joke after joke,” the mogul said. “It was almost like, is there anyone else they can talk about?”

    He also found the event “inappropriate in certain respects” and spent the evening thinking about how “the American people are really suffering and we’re all having a good time.”

    And what was his assessment of Meyers’ comedic timing?

    “His (Meyers) delivery was not good. He’s a stutterer and he really was having a hard time,” Trump said of the “Saturday Night Live” star.

    When asked about a recent profanity-laced speech in Las Vegas Wednesday Trump said he probably won’t use that language anymore, but that it pales in comparison to the rhetoric in “real negotiations.”

    “When people see the real negotiation, the real negotiation that will go on with China and that will go on with OPEC and others, this is very mild compared to what happens in a real room,” Trump said. “The problem is we don’t have a real room because we don’t have anybody that knows how to negotiate.”

  93. Can’t Barry get his TOTUS working. Darn, it takes this man a long time to have people tell him what to say.

    Maybe he was playing bball and had to shower off the stink.

  94. Larry J has a post up. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/05/01/barack-obamas-sunday-night-dramatics-bin-laden-in-custody/#more-58994

    So what does that have to do with Bin Laden? Bin Laden was protected by the Pakistanis for the last decade. With the increased friction between Pakistan and the United States, the Pakistanis finally decided that protecting Bin Laden was too much of a pain. They gave him up. Apparently one of the conditions of the deal was that the body had to be “discovered” in Afghanistan, in order to shield Pakistan from any blowback.

  95. Obama must be waiting for the Trump show to be over out west. Here in the midwest I saw they were running news updates during the show as a news crawl across the bottom–I’m sure they are doing that whereever the episode is showing. More trashing of Trump?

  96. So here we sit waiting for NO DRAMA OBAMA to let the drama build up to a boiling point and for Trump’s show to be over on the West coast before he finally appears from on high.

  97. From Larry J’s post, this if true will bug the hell out of me.

    The immediate benefit is to improve relations with Pakistan. Don’t be surprised if there is a quid pro quo here. Such as? We’re getting ready to prosecute some ISI officers for their role in the Mumbai terror attacks in 2008. The Paks give up Bin Laden and we go easy on the ISI officers. That’s one possibility.

  98. Apparently one of the conditions of the deal was that the body had to be “discovered” in Afghanistan

    Ooops! lol

  99. The best example I can give you is the Impeachment of BC. What caught him up in the end?

    =================

    GOP controlled House. They did it because they had the votes, Barr had been drawing up impeachment papers since spring of 98 with the charges left blank.

  100. News that osama is dead is excellent. I expect o’s poll numbers to go up now….but not for long. The military gets kudos for this.

    I always thought the way to get osama was with an on the ground intelligence team of specialists….not with all out bombing, etc. What a waste of life and money that has been.

    Remember 9/11 and why we went into
    Afganistan. Are we done now?

  101. AmericanGal
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:36 pm
    Someone report what O is saying…I can’t stand to listen to him…
    ******

    You already know what he will say, “I” “I” “I”

  102. I’m not listening either. I like my flat screen too much and don’t trust myself when he comes on.

  103. He’s saying blah blah blah

    But I can tell you that his teleprompter is directly in front of him today – of course, there’s no audience, so I guess they had to do that – the tennis court neck would have looked particularly funny….

    Oh, he said POCKeestahn. I don’t get that. He doesn’t say “Ruh-see-yah” (how Russians say “Russia”), etc.

  104. Oh, phew-eee. BO says when he became president HE directed the national security team to get Bin Lauden.

    So it WAS BO’s direction that was the reason we got him.

    So it really is all about BO just as many here have said…he is taking credit.

    Also wasn’t it BO who hammered Hillary about how only he, the great BO, was against this war?

  105. the tennis court neck would have looked particularly funny….
    —————-

    Yeah without an audience, never thought of that.

  106. Pakistan helped us find him. Obama has always said that if we knew where he was in Pakistan, we would bomb him.

    The chin has gone up quite a few times.

  107. lorac – I am not so sure yet that Pakistan helped, or are just covering their asses. I think the latter. OUR GUYS did it

  108. Admin, about the odd timing, some people are talking about it being a diversion from the court hearing tomorrow on his stolen(?) SSNs..

    Makes you wonder if they did not thaw Bin Laden down from a freezer.

  109. Southern Born
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    Also wasn’t it BO who hammered Hillary about how only he, the great BO, was against this war

    I wonder if Donald Trump will bring this point up in the next couple days (and remind people that we have always been hunting for Bin Laden).

  110. “Unity”

    Now, and in Alabama the other day

    Well yeah, Barack. YOU need to listen to US to be unified – not claim unity when it serves you

  111. We are reminded again tonight that America can do whatever it sets its mind to.

    Oh, BO, you’re so dreamy, and you love America so much, too.

    Now he’s saying the end of the pledge of allegiance.

  112. Just watching and listening to this FRAUD makes me feel like I need to shower off. YUCK

  113. I just heard on the news that there are people outside the WH chanting “USA”, how the hell did they get there before the news was even out?

    WTF? was this whole thing staged? were these people bussed in?

  114. I think the Supremes could have given any of these people standing, but didn’t want to.

    ======================

    Right. They don’t want to disturb Obama’s pillow. Or to set a precdent on the actual question. They want to be able to find for or against each new person according to whether they like him, without any pesky consistency.

  115. It was a gun fight that took out Bin Laden, and they took his body when it was over.

    Congratulations to our troops, and specialists!!

  116. Gretta saying on FOX after a statement read by Bush Jr. that many have responded including Bill Clinton…haven’t hear Bill’s statement read though.

  117. tim
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    I had the same thought on the crowds..they were out there mere minutes after Geraldo broke the news.

  118. I don’t think this is a staged crowd. DC is FILLED with tourists and twitter, etc gets the news out fast.

    This is a good day for America.

    Thanks to our troops, and even to Waffles for not taking five months to make a decision about it.

  119. Norma, you’re right. This explains the case of missing Hillary in the last week.. I bet this was no R & R.

  120. “So it really is all about BO just as many here have said…he is taking credit.”

    Always!
    He also said osama was killed today (Sunday)… how does that square with reports that osama was killed last week??

  121. Any election advantage over Trump that Obama hoped to get from Bin Laden’s death will be short lived since people will soon turn back to skyrocketing gas prices and the economy continuing to tank during the rest of this year and next. As long as Trump keeps Obama’s feet to the fire during the next several months, Obama’s reelection chances will continue to fade.

  122. Shadow – they’ve known since August, someone said that? Well, maybe he had to form some committees and get some consensus before moving forward. Yup.

  123. tony – I was just thinking the same thing

    also, this firefighter speaking on CNN has not mentioned OZer0 at all – but high praise for the military

  124. lorac

    The BoyKing said they first heard he was possibly there in August, and it took them all this time to set it up.
    Then again, we know how long it took Barry to promise a dog to his girls and never got one, only Uncle Teddy got them the dog.

  125. pm317 – that makes a lot of sense. I hope Hillary’s role comes out.

    And BO emphasizing this was “at his direction” – well, big whoop, BO, you ARE the commander in chief. If you had done anything BUT this, it would have been very suspect!

    But won’t BO supporters be upset that they didn’t capture bin laden and put him on trial? Oh, the hypocrisy!

  126. tony, yes I agree with you. I’m glad that terrorist is dead, but the whole jihadi movement has not abated, its only spread out now, and frankly, the economy is horrible and getting worse, the jobs numbers come out this week, and they will not be pretty.

    I read some of what Waffles said, as we expected, all about him! He deserves NO credit, it was the US military, and they deserve 100% of it, the intelleg. people as well.
    I find it disgusting he would keep saying “I”.

  127. Obama: “At My Direction” U.S. Carried Out Operation Against Bin Laden

    Well, dang, thank goodness THE ONE thought of that. Bet that never occurred to President Clinton or Bush.

  128. i must have missed something, court case tomorrow over the stolen SSN, who’s taking it to court?

  129. CNN says that Bin Laden was killed in a mansion in Pakistan.

    ==================

    If that’s true, Obama is too damn lucky. Remember in summer of 2007 when he got in trouble for threatening to invade Pakistan?

  130. Maybe Obama can write to Pakistan and ask for special permission to get Osama’s long form death certificate to prove it to the naysayers lol

    ==============

    LOL!

  131. The crowds they are showing on Fox look like primarily college students–agree that crowds will gather in such an event but knowing Obama its still possible word went out to some of his more ardent supporters to come out and celebrate…

  132. You are right, it is almost ALL young college student age people at the WH. Maybe they have a different area for the adults. 😉

  133. Southern Born
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 am
    Obama: “At My Direction” U.S. Carried Out Operation Against Bin Laden

    Well, dang, thank goodness THE ONE thought of that. Bet that never occurred to President Clinton or Bush.
    ___________

    I’m a cynic because I think it doesn’t matter if bin Laden is dead. The war in Afghanistan was lost a long time ago. And I don’t say that lightly. My one god son spent six months in Afghanistan and the other is going this month. However, it occurs to me that it coincides with Obama needing some real good news. Did he really die/get killed a week ago?

  134. well, saw this comment about the crowd in front of WH:

    OMG! Some have on Bush T-Shirts and are cheering Bush!

    Go GW, Go GW!

    Is that true?

  135. “The crowds they are showing on Fox look like primarily college students”

    Call me a cynic, but to me this seems staged, its 11pm on a sunday night, the closest college to the WH, if I remember, is not that close. If it was 11pm on saturday night, I would say yes there are people about, but this feels staged.

  136. I’m glad that terrorist is dead, but the whole jihadi movement has not abated
    ————
    Exactly. While osama was an inspirational figure, al-qaeda is a hydra, much like US anti-nuke affinity groups were in the 80s. Same end goal but each group acts autonomously.

  137. Not much changed by tonight’s announcement regarding 2012. Here is the Times report posted on Drudge:

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/organizing-now-democrats-expect-tough-bid-in-2012/?ref=politics

    Republicans, with justification, shouted “hypocrisy” last week after former White House aides opened a campaign organization using the sort of anonymous donors condemned by President Obama.

    But they also understood it as a compliment. That’s because, in another springtime full of political disappointment, Democratic strategists have begun concluding that Mr. Obama faces a tougher-than-anticipated re-election fight.

    Just as signs of economic recovery last year faded with the Greek financial crisis and the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the drop in unemployment and a rise in stock values to start off 2011 have been offset by higher gas prices and turmoil in Washington and abroad. Even as a flawed, boisterous group of Republican presidential challengers struggles for traction, Mr. Obama’s own poll standing has drifted down — to 46 percent in the most recent New York Times/CBS News poll.

    “The significant challenges that President Obama will face are being masked by the weakness of the Republican field right now,” said Geoff Garin, a Democratic pollster.

    Mr. Garin is advising Priorities USA, the new political group Republicans criticized. He believes that Democratic activists and donors, chuckling lately over the antics of Donald J. Trump and other Republicans, need a wakeup call.

    “It’s not just, Obama needs to run hard,” Mr. Garin said. “Democrats have to take this seriously.”

    The Shadow of 2008

    Americans have voted for change in each of the last three national elections. And though the economy has recovered somewhat from the financial crisis Mr. Obama inherited, it has done so slowly and unevenly.

    The unemployment rate has fallen from its double-digit peak, but remains high at 8.8 percent; the economy grew in the first quarter of this year, but only at a 1.8 percent annualized rate. The most recent New York Times/CBS News poll showed Americans more downbeat about the country’s direction than they have been since the early weeks of Mr. Obama’s administration.

    “In a way, Obama’s biggest obstacle to overcome in 2012 is Obama 2008,” said Rachel Gorlin, a Democratic consultant. Voters “just get this overall impression of things being out of control, that change hasn’t happened. It’s going to be one of the toughest runs for an incumbent president and his party in a long time.”

    The national economy is Mr. Obama’s biggest problem, but not his only one. Voters link increases in gas prices to the upheaval in the Middle East, as Libya follows Iraq and Afghanistan on the list of American military commitments.

    The political brinkmanship that threatened a government shutdown before Mr. Obama and Republican lawmakers compromised on spending cuts underscored the sense of disorder in government. So has warfare in state capitals over budget problems mirroring Washington’s.

    Voters “lump it all into: everything’s a mess, and people in politics can’t govern,” said Bill Carrick, a Democratic strategist in California. On Mr. Obama, “they’re still trying to figure out what kind of leader he is.

    “Is he effective? They haven’t made up their minds on that.” [snip]

    By highlighting partisan differences on immigration, Democratic strategists see the possibility of expanding Mr. Obama’s 67 percent showing among Hispanics, which helped deliver Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico in 2008.

    The House Republicans’ plan to transform Medicare provides an opening to regain ground among senior citizens, who helped erase the Democrats’ House majority last November. Challenges to organized labor by Republican state leaders like Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin have alarmed a crucial element of the Democratic base.

    And yet Democrats still see Wisconsin, which Republicans have lost in six straight presidential elections, as a battleground.

    After carrying the state by 13 percentage points in 2008, “Obama should be doing enormously better there,” Ms. Gorlin said. “It being in play means he can’t take anything for granted.”

    Ms. Gorlin worked on a recent Wisconsin Supreme Court election in which Democrats counted on a backlash against Mr. Walker to propel a powerful turnout. But Republicans’ turnout was also impressive; their candidate leads in the recount.

    That experience foreshadows the burden facing Democrats across the industrial Midwest and elsewhere in reviving some semblance of the 2008 enthusiasm they capitalized on among young voters, African-Americans and suburban women.

    “This election is still going to be defined by how events unfold over the next year and a half, more than by anything we know for sure today,” Mr. Garin said. “The idea that it’s over before it starts, in these circumstances, is crazy.”

  138. Who was it who said up thread that they might have brought Bin Lauden out of the freezer just for that reason, andyp. So who knows when he was actually killed.

    Would any of us here trust BO about that?

  139. 1. Concerning the killing of bin Ladin, I think it is important to give credit where credit is do, and to not allow politicians who lead from the rear to claim it.

    2. The credit goes to our military and intelligence committee for finally completing a mission which has been ongoing for over a decade. It is symbolic however, and anyone who claims that we can now deal with al Qaeda is a fool.

    3. The blame here goes to Obama. He knew this five days ago, but withheld the information from the American Public so he could override Trump’s program on national television. Obama is a sociopath, and a dangerous one at that.

  140. andyp
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Please thank your godsons for their service, I have friends who have family over there, it has to be the hardest thing I have seen, they are Marines.

    Your assessment of Afghanistan may prove correct, how do you nation build when their entire culture is based centuries ago, I don’t get it, I hope I’m wrong, but when I hear stories of adult men throwing acid in little girl’s faces because they are now getting educated, how do you change that mindset? it will take years, and then what about our country, we are broke.

  141. Five Meetings over Two Months lead to Kill Order (update)
    Posted: May 1, 2011 | Author: dakinikat | Filed under: just because | Leave a comment »
    Ed Henry has just clarified the timing of the Bin Laden killing. Evidently, the President and the National Security Council met five times between March 4th and April 30th. The President issued the kill order during the Royal Wedding. Bin Laden was killed today.

    http://skydancingblog.com/2011/05/01/five-meetings-over-two-months-lead-to-kill-order-update/

  142. jtjames
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 am
    =====================

    I believe that it is Orly Taitz that has the court case tomorrow with regards to the mutliple social security numbers.

  143. On Mr. Obama, “they’re still trying to figure out what kind of leader he is. “Is he effective? They haven’t made up their minds on that.”
    —————————–
    This is from an Obama consultant quoted in the New York Times. Therefore it is a real cherry pick. It seems to me, and Jay Cost has been clear on this point, that most people have made up their minds, and more of them thing he is a poor leader. There is the independent group and they are the ones who may or may not be up in the air. If they are paying attention, then they are waiting to see who the Republicans nominate, and if it is someone they can support, they will bail on sociopath Obama in a New York minute.

  144. DWP, what you wrote:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704569404576297941397558496.html?mod=

    In a recent book on Mr. bin Laden, Michael Scheuer, former chief of the Central Intelligence Agency’s bin Laden unit, wrote that the al Qaeda leader’s goal was to attack the West, and then to move on to Arab states and Israel, but that “he has given no indication that he expects to live long enough to finish the job.”

    Instead, Mr. Scheuer wrote, Mr. bin Laden “has anticipated a war of attrition, one that might last decades,” so he began passing the torch to younger al Qaeda activists.

  145. dwp
    “The President issued the kill order during the Royal Wedding. Bin Laden was killed today.”

    It almost sounds like he didn’t appreciate having all that attention focused on the Royals instead of on himself.

  146. Apparently, GW University is nearby the WH. I am sure they got a tweet or two from OFA after the fact

  147. Thank you, Tim. I think anyone who goes to war to serve his country deserves our praise and thanks, even if I don’t agree with the mission. I would never hold them responsible for what their leaders do. These two young men truly believe that they are going to Afghanistan to protect Canada and other countries. You can’t find fault with that.

    I sure hope Obama did all the travelling to visit family that he ever wants to do because once he loses US military protection he had better not show his face around Kenya, Pakistan, or any other mainly Muslim country that supported bin Laden. The family had better come to him in future.

  148. Five Meetings over Two Months lead to Kill Order (update)
    Posted: May 1, 2011 | Author: dakinikat | Filed under: just because | Leave a comment »
    Ed Henry has just clarified the timing of the Bin Laden killing. Evidently, the President and the National Security Council met five times between March 4th and April 30th. The President issued the kill order during the Royal Wedding. Bin Laden was killed today.
    ————————
    The fact that there were five meeting, confirms his inability to make a decision in real time. He is lucky he did not get away. If he had we never would have heard about it.

  149. andyp

    “I sure hope Obama did all the travelling to visit family that he ever wants to do because once he loses US military protection he had better not show his face around Kenya, Pakistan, or any other mainly Muslim country that supported bin Laden.”

    Especially if some imam issues a fatwa on Obama’s head.

  150. ya know what, his Waffles man, there is something truely narriscisitic, in a very very bad way about it. Guess what today is? the same day several years ago, the “mission accomplished” thing was done by GWB, now what are the chances that Barry did it today of all days just to show off? We know he is that type of pathetic man.

  151. the whole jihadi movement has not abated, its only spread out now
    ——————————-
    not dead at all. They simply have a new martyr/

  152. Tim, my neice also pointed out the date is 5/11 which reminded her of 911. Maybe more symbolism..

  153. CNN Anchor To Trump: It Doesn’t Matter If Obama Wasn’t Born Here

    CNN Anchor Don Lemon:

    “We bring up that issue of the birth certificate, Mr. Trump, because people want to know why you care so much? You realize this, that this whole issue of what exactly is a natural-born citizen is has never been challenged in court. So we don’t even know if it would imply to President Obama if he wasn’t born here?”

  154. Another observation on the crowd–there are a lot of American flags in the crowd..some are small and on sticks–others are large. Don’t mean to be cynical but I agree with someone else who posted earlier…it looks staged. Particularly since the early crowd was literally all college aged…

  155. George W Bush

    Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.

  156. Once the news of this US military operation occurred in Pakistani soil, the Islamic nutbags who have infiltrated Pakistan’s government and military will go apeshit and probably stop cooperating with our military in taking out the Taliban bases on the Pakistani side of the Afghan-Pakistani border.

  157. Southern Born. It was pm317. Found at another blog. Makes perfect sense to me.

    pm317
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
    Comment seen on another blog:

    OBAMA’S TO-DO LIST:

    1. Announce candidacy for re-election.
    2. Pull bin-Laden body out of freezer.
    3. Schedule late Sunday night “surprise” news conference to ensure “did you hear” chatter at beginning of work week.
    4. The Donald ain’t gonna fire me!!! Suck it, you comb-over white boy!

  158. http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0511/bin_ladens_body_c2fb2ffb-5240-40c6-b106-956bf2ebff6a.html

    The United States is treating Osama bin Laden’s body in ‘accordance with Islamic practice,’ White House official says.

    President Obama announced Sunday night that American forces killed bin Laden in Pakistan and that they took his body afterward. He said no Americans were harmed in the fight.

    Asked how bin Laden’s body will be treated, a senior administration official told reporters on a conference call that ‘we are ensuring that is handled in accordance with Islamic practice.’

    The official, who refused to be identified, said the matter is ‘something that we take very seriously, and so, therefore, this is being handled in an appropriate manner.’

  159. admin
    May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 am

    I say we put him on a circus wagon and parade him around the country and then blow him up

  160. admin
    May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 am

    Maybe its just me, but that pisses me off like nothing else. I’m not saying decresate his body, but to treat it with respect like that, when thousands on Americans had no body to bury after 9/11, I don’t know this is just making me angry.

    I get that we have troops everywhere and this bin laden death is likely to stir up antiamericanism, and we have to state we are treating the bin laden body with respect essentially not for bin laden but for the sake of americans serving. But I can’t help but feel angry that we are showing respect to a piece of a turd of a man who didn’t blink an eye when he planned the murder of thousands of innocent Americans.

  161. So what are Islamic practices in handling Osama’s body…in an appropriate manner?

  162. May 2, 2011
    Typo: MSNBC correspondent accidentally reports on Twitter that obama was killed

    suppose to read

  163. I say we take him to New York and drag his body behind a chariot and dump it off at the new mosque, whats left of it!

  164. The President issued the kill order during the Royal Wedding. Bin Laden was killed today.

    ——
    Wow, he was killed today?

    That was a fast DNA test, but then again, he is 6’7″ so that eliminates about 99% of the population.

  165. from ACE
    ****

    No doubt about it, the crowd in front of the white house is staged. There aren’t that many white people in DC outside of working hours.

    Students from Georgetown and GWU.

  166. Drudge has a photo of Bin Laden, upside down!
    Shot in the head.

    Administration officials offered some details of the operation.

    Based on statements given by U.S. detainees, intelligence officials have known for years that bin Laden trusted one al-Qaida courier in particular, and they believed he might be living with him in hiding. In November, intelligence officials found out where he was living, a huge fortified compound in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. It was surrounded by walls as high as 18 feet high, topped with barbed wire. There were two security gates and no phone or Internet running into the house.

    Intelligence officials believed the $1 million home was custom-built to harbor a major terrorist. CIA experts analyzed whether it could be anyone else, but time and again, they decided it was almost certainly bin Laden.

    Three adult males were also killed in Sunday’s raid, including one of bin Laden’s sons, whom officials did not name. One of bin Laden’s sons, Hamza, is a senior member of al-Qaida.

    Obama spoke with Bush and former President Bill Clinton Sunday night to inform them of the developments.

    The president struck a less than boastful tone in his brief announcement, although he said the death of bin Laden was “the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al-Qaida.

    “His death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that al-Qaida will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must and we will remain vigilant,” he added.

    Moments after Obama spoke, the State Department put U.S. embassies on alert and warned of the heightened possibility for anti-American violence. In a worldwide travel alert, the department said there was an “enhanced potential for anti-American violence given recent counterterrorism activity in Pakistan.”

  167. On a different and weird note
    *****

    New Yorkers sample cheese made from human breast milk

    By Jonathan Allen |

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – A New York gallery on Sunday offered adventurous eaters the opportunity to sample cheese made from human breast milk, getting mixed reviews and some puzzled looks.
    The Lady Cheese Shop is a temporary art installation by Miriam Simun, a graduate student at New York University who hopes to use the craft of cheese-making to raise questions about the ethics of modern biotechnologies.
    “Cheese is the conversation starter,” Simun said. “Some people are loving it, and some people are gagging.”
    Simun found three nursing women willing to have their milk turned into cheese. She screened the milk for diseases, pasteurized it and learned the basics of cheese-making.
    Three varieties were available on Sunday — West Side Funk, Midtown Smoke, described as “creamy and just pure heaven,” and Wisconsin Chew, the taste of which apparently reflected the vegetable-filled diet of the woman who provided its milk.
    Jocelyn James, of Manhattan, who works with expectant mothers, declared her favorite was Midtown Smoke, which she said was mild. She described Wisconsin Chew as bland.
    “It’s a lot healthier than cow’s milk, which can be very suspicious,” she said, although she conceded: “It does have a stigma.”
    Frances Anderson sampled the cheese while breast-feeding her infant son Luan.
    “I’m an adventurous eater,” she said. “I know more about the source of this food than going into a supermarket and picking up Cheddar cheese. I don’t know what they pumped into that cow.”
    Passersby seemed perplexed.
    “That there’s so weird,” said Cheryl Coleman, a neighbor walking by.
    “I love this neighborhood,” she added.
    Simun said she hoped her cheese will make people think about the various ways human bodies are used as “factories,” producing blood, hair, sperm, eggs and organs that can all be harvested to be used by others.
    And while the transfusion of human blood is a common practice, uses of human milk raise eyebrows.
    Last year, a New York chef served diners at his restaurant cheese made from his wife’s milk, and earlier this year an ice cream parlor in London began buying women’s breast milk and turning it into frozen treats.
    “You’re putting it in your mouth,” said Simun of human milk and the taboos around it. “There’s something really visceral about that.”

  168. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-05/02/c_13854992.htm

    ISLAMABAD, May 2 (Xinhua) — Local Urdu TV channel Duniya quoted sources as saying that six children, two wives of Osama Bin Laden were arrested along with his four close friends in a search operation launched early Monday morning by the Pakistani forces in a mountainous area located some 60 kilometers north of Pakistan’s capital Islamabad. The report said that one of Bin Laden’s sons was killed in the operation.

  169. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.raid/index.html?hpt=T1

    Sorry, its a CNN article.

    “The U.S. team was at the compound for about 40 minutes, the officials said. There were no casualties on the American side, although a U.S. helicopter crashed during the raid due to mechanical problems. The helicopter was then destroyed for security reasons, senior administration officials said.

    However, a senior defense official said U.S. Navy SEALs were involved.”

    I am so proud of our US military, God Bless everyone of them and their families for the sacrifices they make.

  170. “New Yorkers sample cheese made from human breast milk”

    I can’t even picture this in my head, no, yuck, can’t imagine how people will even want to taste this.

  171. “New Yorkers sample cheese made from human breast milk”

    it won’t be long before the NY Health Department steps in and starts warning about infectious diseases transmitted through human secretions, including breast milk, such as HIV and Hepatitis B and C.

  172. I can’t imagine drinking milk from some woman’s breast milk. But then again, I think it’s weird that humans drink milk from cows lol

  173. While senior Obama administration officials told reporters tonight that Pakistan was not informed about the raid until after it was over, Pakistan’s The Dawn media group says it has been told by a Pakistani security official that it was “a joint operation” between U.S. and Pakistani personnel. In his statement, President Obama said that “our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistanhelped lead us to bin Laden.”

    Still, the senior Obama administration officials told reporters that the U.S. team that conducted the operation “did not encounter any local authorities while performing the raid.”

  174. lorac

    “I can’t imagine drinking milk from some woman’s breast milk.”

    When the US economy becomes officially a depression and thousands become desperately hungry, a need may arise just for it.

  175. Tony – I guess if that ever happened, “my body my choice” would take on a whole new meaning!

  176. Glad the fucker is dead, now they have no more boogeyman to blame for everything, that said however Obama just painted a huge target on his and America’s back, so be vigilant.

    Expect the worst and i hope they dont get one worse in his place.

  177. Moments after Obama spoke, the State Department put U.S. embassies on alert and warned of the heightened possibility for anti-American violence.

    ==================

    Seems odd they would not alert the embassies earlier.

  178. Personally speaking, I find the news that the US government has discarded its No.1 bogeyman to be quite ominous. They will soon need to find a new boogeyman. Thing is Yes, they may have killed a figure head, you can’t kill an idea.

  179. Pundits typically rushing to view that Obama will now win 2nd term. OBL is big boost but it’s economy that counts. Just ask George Bush Snr.

  180. Gonzotx
    May 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 am

    from ACE
    ****

    No doubt about it, the crowd in front of the white house is staged. There aren’t that many white people in DC outside of working hours.

    Students from Georgetown and GWU.
    ———————————–
    Here’s support for that conclusion:

    Obama’s online army quietly gears up
    President Obama’s aides have quietly turned the key in the engine of the massive campaign-in-waiting that’s been operating under the name Organizing for America for the last two years, and will begin his re-election with the sort of online and field organizations most presidential campaigns would be glad to have 16 months from now. The leadership of the field organization – with hundreds of employees, tens of thousands of volunteers and massive online assets (primarily, a giant email list) – is shifting from the Democratic National Committee to the new campaign in Chicago. And in mass emails and in a quiet series of one-on-one meetings with volunteer leaders, the group is resetting its relationship with its supporters. “Nothing like this has ever happened this early or this big,” said Natalie Foster, a former DNC new media director. Obama’s re-election campaign may lack the novelty, and the purity, of his first campaign. Aides hope, though, that any enthusiasm gap – which they believe will close as the race begins to take shape – will be made up for by the sheer scale and capacity of the newly re-tuned organization.
    The online operation, intrinsic to both field and fund-raising operations of the re-election campaign, has also been quietly gearing up. An email message and no-frills video from campaign manager Jim Messina earlier this week returned the messaging to its successful roots in wonky, direct, gimmick-free, and openly political discussions with core supporters….
    http://patriotupdate.com/6277/obamas-online-army-quietly-gears-up

    Sorry it’s not a [cough] more balanced link – but with all 3 NYC stations babbling about OSL since 4 am, where is one to find this information? Hell, you can’t even get the weather out of NYC this morning. And more to the point of this link, people all over NY are shouting USA, USA.

    Globama has launched himself.

  181. BTW, an expert whose name I should remember told CBS’s early morning news show, ‘Up To The Minute’, that OSL was not in a suburb of Islamabad, but significantly north of there. Seems everyone else is saying the suburb of I. If you don’t have your facts straight, you lose credibility….

  182. OLO (one last observation)
    Globama interrupting Trump’s show was the message “I’m more powerful than you.” It reminds me of GWB making Gore’s Tennesee his last stop of the 2000 campaign. Each had to pause to crap on the nemesis’s territory. I think Americans will make note of that.

  183. OOLO (one other last observation)
    NASA Says It Will Not Launch Shuttle Endeavour on Monday; No New Date Set

    See, that photo op with Gabby is just not going to work out. Heard she is back in Texas.

  184. With apologies, readers, I’ve returned yet again to ask:
    Was this, admin’s latest post, the catalyst for Teh One’s decision to go with the story last night?????

  185. Points that need to be addressed:

    1 – the U.S. says they did not tell the Pakistan government until after the assault. Pakistan says they helped plan it.

    2 – the U.S. says they have done DNA tests to confirm the death as well as facial recognition (he was shot in the head)

    3 – was there any outside verifiers to confirm the DNA or facial confirmation prior to getting rid of the body? (or just take our word for it)

    4 – to be technical, the U.S. dropped military personal into the city of a sovereign country and assassinated people without the “approval” from said government. (against international law)

    just saying…

  186. HTA: 5:54, 6:11, 6:21, 6:25

    agreed- especially the hold up of the announcement ensuring all the facts line up, make sure the students are ready for big photo-op, busses ready,

    6:44- synchronicity?
    ____________________

    Obama lies about everything else. Why believe anything he says is true?

  187. democrat1
    May 2nd, 2011 at 7:26 am

    I heard a second inducement for prospective fence sitting suicide bombers is the promise those 72 virgins will be blond! 🙄

  188. So the US knew or suspected Osama’s hiding place since October. Obama has 5 meetings over the last month with our national security team on the matter. He makes the decision during the Royal Wedding (Friday) to attack. But they attack on Sunday. Does the White House usually delay things of this magnitude due to the Correspondants dinner? Obviously they wanted that verbal attack to happen followed by having the announcement occur at the time it did.

    I am wondering..did they also delay having the meetings on planning the attack so it would happen after Obama announced his reelection? Wasn’t that announced in March?

    Another bit of evidence the rally was staged–Geraldo was interviewing the crowd and they were saying “USA!” but also praising Obama. Every person I saw him speak to was a college student.

  189. Yup, so why would Gen Patraeus change places with Leon Pannetta when he would have been the one in charge of this historical event and gotten all the credit?

    Please post admim- thanks!

    video from April 28, 2011

  190. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
    May 2, 2011
    tags: Daily Appointment Schedule, Diplomacy, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of Stateby stacyx

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    9:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the Assistant Secretaries, at the Department of State.

    10:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with interns and fellows from the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute, at the Department of State.

    10:35 a.m. Secretary Clinton speaks to participants in the National Conference of Editorial Writers (NCEW), at the Department of State.

    11:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks at the annual Presidential Rank Awards Recognition Ceremony, at the Department of State.

    11:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd, at the Department of State.

    7:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends President Obama and Mrs. Obama’s Congressional Leadership dinner, at the White House.

    Correction Sorry

  191. Rumsfeld pops up on tv telling us what is going on with al-Quaida and how we should react and proceed at this moment… huh? He has been briefed? Or has Bush2 and Rumsfeld been working all along with the BO administration and never left after 3.5 years? This whole thing stinks to high heaven? We have one party alright- Rumsfeld just confirms it-
    ___________________________________

    OK, Let’s Decline

    May 1, 2011 by Victor Davis Hanson

    “Leading From Behind”

    A recent report in The New Yorker suggested that the Obama’s administration’s weird sort of/sort of not foreign policy is now gleefully self-described as “leading from behind.” Not exercising leadership is a reflection, the article suggests, of Obama’s view that the U.S. is both disliked and in decline. Decline?

    Here are some tidbits from the Ryan Lizza adulatory piece. The following I think is meant as a compliment:

    “The one consistent thread running through most of Obama’s decisions has been that America must act humbly in the world. Unlike his immediate predecessors, Obama came of age politically during the post-Cold War era, a time when America’s unmatched power created widespread resentment. Obama believes that highly visible American leadership can taint a foreign-policy goal just as easily as it can bolster it.”

    I supposed eliminating “unmatched power” would also eliminate “widespread resentment” — in that few are envious of the failed. Here is another assessment also offered as a tribute:

    “One of his advisers described the President’s actions in Libya as ‘leading from behind.’ That’s not a slogan designed for signs at the 2012 Democratic Convention, but it does accurately describe the balance that Obama now seems to be finding. It’s a different definition of leadership than America is known for, and it comes from two unspoken beliefs: that the relative power of the U.S. is declining, as rivals like China rise, and that the U.S. is reviled in many parts of the world. Pursuing our interests and spreading our ideals thus requires stealth and modesty as well as military strength. ‘It’s so at odds with the John Wayne expectation for what America is in the world,’ the adviser said. ‘But it’s necessary for shepherding us through this phase.’”

    What the hell is “this phase”? Where are we “reviled” and by whom? Syria? Russia? Yemen? Somalia? Cuba?

    Decline or Ascend?

    Does “decline” mean inevitable collapse, like an aging person whose mind and body have become enfeebled? That was certainly the view of the ancients, who felt civilizations had finite life-spans (see Jacqueline de Romilly’s The Rise and Fall of States According to Greek Authors.) Do environmental catastrophes, resource depletion, or foreign armies end societies? They can, as the complex pyramidal societies from the Minoans and Mycenaeans to the Mayans and Aztecs learned.

    All that said, decline is far more often a choice, not a preordained destiny. There was no reason that Athens at 338 B.C. needed to lose to Philip at Chaironeia or even that the loss there meant the end of Greek freedom. Macedonian forces were a fraction of the size of a far larger Persian force that had swept from the north into a far weaker Athens in 480 B.C. No law said that drama of the quality of the Orestia, Oedipus, Ajax, Bacchae, and Medea had to give way to the sitcoms of Middle and New comedy of the fourth century B.C. By September 1945, England had far more of its industrial base intact than had Germany or Japan, and had suffered far fewer losses, both material and human, since 1939 than either of the defeated Axis powers whose entire national ideologies had been rendered bankrupt and their people reduced to global pariahs. Why, then, did a country that produced the sort of four-engine bombers en masse that its wartime adversaries could not, or a Spitfire fighter better than any produced by Japan or Germany until the advent of the jet, end up decades later with unsold Jaguars while Mercedes and Lexus swept world markets? And why did a bombed out Frankfurt and Tokyo (200,000 incinerated in March 1945 alone) rather quickly out-produce a less damaged Liverpool (e.g., 4,000 killed in the blitz) or Manchester? Clearly the UKchose a path in 1945-9 that a once flattened Germany and Japan did not.

    If Rome was supposedly “doomed” by the 5th century A.D., why did the Eastern Empire last another 1,000 years? Why was 1978 America a very different place than either 1955 or 1985 or 1996? How did gas lines, stagflation, and malaise lead to the boom of the Reagan and Clinton years?

    Our Choice, Not Others’

    President Obama, listen carefully. By every benchmark, this should be an American century. Our known fossil fuel reserves are soaring, as new finds of coal, natural gas, oil, tar sands, and oil shale keep growing, not shrinking. Demographically, we are expanding; Europe, Japan, and China are shrinking.

    pg 2

    http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/ok-lets-decline/2/

  192. NMF, I heard that they did bury OBL at sea because Islamic practice is to bury within 24 hours of death. To which I say — WTF? The man is a criminal mass murderer who was killed while violently resisting capture. There should have been a post-mortem. That’s how any other criminal killed during capture would have been treated, regardless of religion. Why is he special?

  193. Wondering if Bin Laden is in the same sea (Caribbean)as Ken Lay of Enron fame.

    This event the more info coming out is making my stomach queasy.The Bushes have always been friendly with the Bin-Ladens. Remember just before 9/11 he and their family were flown out of the US when the WTC was hit? Now, this morning Rummy is waxing poetic on tv… the whole thing stinks to high heaven. The photo of OBL on Drudge looks like a younger man. Not at all like the thin haggard faced OBL we are familiar with-

  194. Just to be clear- the BL photo I speak of is the pic in Drudge’s link after he was killed… supposedly.

  195. The Hurrier you get The Behinder you become.I just proved it with my just in post.Time to hang it up my friends. ABM90 soon to be ABM93

  196. I guess I view this as anti climatic. With all our sophistication, and tech expertise, it took us 10 years to find and get rid of him. I am glad it was taken care of, but don’t see that it and he are significant anymore.

  197. Even Al Jazeera was saying OBL was killed on Sunday (which could have been Saturday here since Pakistan is what – 12 hours ahead of EST?)
    I only heard that they took DNA samples, not that they have DNA test results.
    The burial at sea pings my radar though.
    And why did teh WH say BO would make an announcement at 10:30 then keep them hanging more than an hour — were they waiting for the crowd in front of the WH to grow?
    Really I am glad that OBL is dead, and so what if BO takes credit, but I hate to see wag-the-dog behavior.

  198. Got this off the internet:

    Today 1:20 AM Osama Bin Laden Dead: Does It Matter?
    HuffPost’s Andrea Stone and Marcus Baram report:

    WASHINGTON — The words so many Americans have waited to hear for nearly a decade — Osama Bin Laden is dead — were finally spoken on a spring night by a President still grappling with the national security crisis sparked by 9/11.

    But as crowds streamed to the White House to chant “USA! USA! USA!” in ecstatic reaction to the news, experts were divided over whether bin Laden’s end would weaken the terrorist movement he oversaw, or whether it had arrived too late to make a substantial difference: some suggested that al Qaeda is now so established and globally organized that it is likely to continue seeking Western targets.

    “This closes a chapter but the most sobering aspect of this is that this is not the end,” said Jack Cloonan, a former special agent in the FBI’s bin Laden unit. “The reasons they hate us have not subsided and this could reinvigorate things.”

    Read the full report here

  199. Is it Islamic tradition that one is buried facing Mecca? If so, how do your follow tradition when you dump a body at sea?

  200. Thank you for the good news about the Donald, above. Trump has breathed new life into this issue, enough to get me posting again after many moons. If he stays on this thing, Soebarkah will be sunk, I think. If Trump bows out, that will not be good news.

    On that note, I wrote him this morning, and would encourage others to do the same. It was just a little “thank you” card. I brought up the subject of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin being in Leavenworth for asking for verification of Barry’s eligibility, and asked Trump to pursue this. If anyone else is interested in writing, his address is:

    725 Fifth Avenue
    New York, New York 10022

    I used this link for info about Terry Lakin:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/donald_trump_talk_about_terry.html

    There’s also this:

    http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/

    Thanks!

  201. Mrs. Smith May 2nd, 2011 at 8:35 am
    Wondering if Bin Laden is in the same sea (Caribbean)as Ken Lay of Enron fame.
    ——————-
    I guess many Ken Lay’s death was convenient, but I’m glad to note your comment.

    At least Bush was smart enough to have pictures of Saddam’s sons televised in death (correct me if I’ve got the wrong victims here).

    Also, at some level in my soul, I reject the all-too-common practice of celebrating killing of anyone. I accept that it is practical, necessary … but I don’t like the celebration of it.

  202. FWIW – my cloak and dagger analysis

    1 – BO knew Bin laden was dead last week (Monday)
    2 – BO knows trump had critisized him about OBL
    3 – O releases BC Thusrday)
    4 -BO knows trump had critisized him about that
    5 – BO roasts Trump at WHC (Saturday)
    6 – Next Day, during Celebrity Apprentice, BO announced OBL is dead. (Sunday)

    Sound suspicious to you.

  203. I must be really shallow because I am very annoyed that Brian Williams interrupted Celebrity Apprentice so now I don’t know who got fired. And he just kept blathering on that BO was about to speak any minute now to tell us OBL was dead. After 20 min of that we turned the telly off and went to bed.
    Whatever happened to putting a little box in the corner until the President actually is ready to speak? I mean, it’s not OBL was going to come back to life if Brian Williams stopped talking about him.

  204. I don’t buy this pure propaganda bullshit for one second. Even Bhutto herself said Bin Laden was long dead (google it, she’s on tape), shortly before they murdered her.

    How convenient. The Orly Taitz, and Gary Kreep (an idiot or mole), double hearings in court on eligibility are being heard in the 9th Circuit today and are supposed to be broadcast on c-Span. The thought of those two in court for the cause makes me cringe and shudder. Originally I assumed c-Span had opted to cover the hearing for another prime media chance to try to tagteam with msnbc and ridicule Orly, with the added supreme bonus of having Kreep and his dumbass pastor plaintiff spouting off misinformation on what natural born Citizen means. But hey, knocking it completely off the radar is just the Typical Chicago way.

  205. And Tony Stark, would you please let us know who your link leads to and/or tell us what the lie is? Sorry, I will not blindly click on any tinyurls with unknown destination. I’m still boyzcotting many many sites and refuse to give them traffic.

  206. “Also, at some level in my soul, I reject the all-too-common practice of celebrating killing of anyone. I accept that it is practical, necessary … but I don’t like the celebration of it.”
    ____________________

    Just about everything Obama does is always perceived as UN-American and in poor taste. Is that why he bussed(?) in all those kids to be rallying in front of the WH with placards inscribed with USA? Having the press announce there will be a celebration coming at the WTC site?

    You don’t pour salt in the wound after a killing of the most hunted man in the world with a price on his head for 10 yrs of $2,000,000 and suggest having a party celebrating his death- which only perpetuates more hatred from the other side grieving on their loss no matter how bad he was in our eyes, he had a family many relatives.

    I expect this type of (unpresidential) behavior from people living in the Stone Age but hardly worthy of a government and it’s people living in the 21st century in a civilized society.

    This is not an example of the America we were brought up to believe in. A place where American Dreams come true, proud of helping other nations and humanity in times of trouble. No, this is something extracted from a sick mind or minds in need of a long permanent furlough.

  207. Can anyonme help connect the dos? It doess not seem to bode well for the country.

    1 – LFBC released 2 – father outed as an illegal playboy
    4 -Trump excoriates BO
    4 – BO pushes back with a public national flogging
    5 – BO interrupts CA to announce OBL’s death – of one week ago

    “This regime executed a Muslim in his home who was not fighting.

  208. repost.

    “This regime executed a Muslim in his home who was not fighting.”

    I agree. To call for parties? Bizarre.

  209. votermom
    May 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 am
    “were they waiting for the crowd in front of the WH to grow?”

    Yep. Facebook and/or Twitter flash mob to celebrate the historic historicness. Between Obama media thugs inviting to humiliate potential rivals to their celebration of butt kissing and social media mobs we are seeing the intimidation of the population starting up for 2012 just like at the primaries, caucuses and election of 2008. Same damn thing.

  210. Sorry, I will not blindly click on any tinyurls with unknown destination.
    Me too, I hate tinyurl.

  211. It’s like BO is strategically dropping his “Trump cards;

    1 release LFBC – Check (while distracting from stories of his polygamist father) – check

    2 – Decimate Trump – Check

    3 Kill Bin Laden- check

    What’s next?

  212. basil9
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 am
    —————

    Show us the death certificate, 😉

    —————
    I also won’t click on tinyurl. I also won’t click on non-descriptive links too unless there is a brief intro to content.

  213. OK. Please indulge me.. Anyone else feel the announcement of the death was deliberately made during Celebrity Apprentice?

    And, if so, what does that tell you about Mighty Mouth? Reports I’m now hearing is he made the decision to do the hit on Friday. But I though OBL died a week ago.

    Smoke and mirrors. Distract and refocus. Something else going on here.

  214. It’s not the death certificate I want, it’s the autopsy report. Except that there was no autopsy because they were so damn sensitive to OBL’s sympathizers that they can’t risk offending them by keeping his body for more than 24 hours.
    As if the crowds partying in the streets aren’t going to offend OBL’s sympathizers?

  215. Most people here in my law office seem to think this seals his re-election..hard to disagree as it certainly takes away the national secuirty issues from the republicans..The irony is that Bin Ladin was killed by a President who is pro-muslim .

  216. Basil 9
    “This regime executed a Muslim in his home who was not fighting.

    basil9: That is not true. This guy never stopped plotting to kill Americans. If he was not successful all these years, this is not for want of trying.

  217. jbstonesfan
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 am
    Most people here in my law office seem to think this seals his re-election..hard to disagree as it certainly takes away the national secuirty issues from the republicans.

    Doubt it. Americans have short memories. George Bush Sr. thought winning the first Gulf War would seal his election in 1992. By June, many Americans will be back to worrying about the price of gas, rising prices and unemployment.

  218. Call me cynical but I don’t believe they buried the body at sea; I believe they are telling the Muslim community that so they don’t try to rescue the body, but it’s way too convenient that they cannot produce the body now. My first thought when I saw the crowd outside the WH last night that thye were too young to even remember 9/11. Staged. Both Obama’s statement and HRC’s this morning were all about trying to soothe the Muslim populace. I find the intensity of that a little strange.

  219. jbstonesfan, NOTHING stops the fact that Obama has a huge glaring Ineligible Problem. This Constitutional Crisis is not going away. This seals zilch.

  220. It just occurred to me that one possible scenario to explain the burial at sea is that maybe they thought they killed OBL, then the express dna test showed it was a double (he has them after all), ooopsie – let’s bury him at sea.

  221. Obama timed his announcement to Sunday evening in order to make maximum use of the news cycle so that every Big Media outlet will be talking about it till next weekend.

  222. “Most people here in my law office seem to think this seals his re-election..hard to disagree as it certainly takes away the national secuirty issues from the republicans”

    Nope. Especially as he keeps saying “At my direction”, Me, Me, I, I.

    Bin Laden was dead sooner or later anyways, he isn’t the main figure in al-queda anymore, the jihadi movement has morphed into many terrorist orgazniations now, bin laden was not as in charge as he was from 2000-2005.

    And most people know this had mostly if not all to do with the US military and its special forces, this information about Bin Laden’s courier was gotten from Gitmo, ya know the same Gitmo Waffles wants to close, the information was gotten from enhanced water boarding, ya know the same that Waffles condemns.

    Credit to Waffles? Nah. Altough I’m sure Axel-hole will try as hard as hell as he did last night to have those Obots waving their Obot signs rather then the US flags.

  223. If Obama is involved, especailly with the Bush Gang- the whole thing is a ruse. I question the guy on Twitter is legit who just happened to be in the neighborhood and witnessed the raid- Too convenient. I read the comments and some are of the same opinion. May have been a signal to the staged “party goers” putting on their games faces for the WH rally.

    Also plucked this coinkidink from another link in the comments:

    “May 1st 1945, Hitler’s death was announced. May 1st 2003, George Bush announced “Mission Accomplished” on the USS Abraham Lincoln. A week ago, Al qaeda announced that May 1st would be the start of a “spring offensive”. On May 1st 2011, Bin Laden, head of Al quaeda, was announced dead. I’m no numbers guy, but what are the odds? Just sayin’…”

  224. Mrs. Smith,
    Wow, that is some coincidence….all those things announced on May 1st….WOW!

  225. Fox reported over and over last night that Osama was killed a week ago but Obama had to wait a week for DNA results. Where are these reports that he was killed today come from. Announcement timing was way too staged for this to have happened today or Obama is the world’s luckiest man alive NOT. Lies.

  226. #
    Shez ZK
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:37 am

    jbstonesfan, NOTHING stops the fact that Obama has a huge glaring Ineligible Problem. This Constitutional Crisis is not going away. This seals zilch.
    ___________-

    Agreed! His father was a British subject and Kenyan citizen. Does not fit the requirement established by the Founders and the paper Obama signed in Arizona with McCain, that attest Obama can prove he is a Natural Born Citizen. The LFBC documentation Obama provided last week is proof he knew his father was not a Citizen while lying under oath to the State of Arizona in 08′. Proof needed by a court noting Obama has committed Treason against America lying to the State of AZ and disqualifying himself by his own hand.

    Yes, we are definitely in a Constitutional crisis- think anyone will notice?

  227. moononpluto
    May 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 am

    Problem is, Osama is now a martyr. That does not bode well.

    —————–

    Exactly. And it is very naive to think that all will be well now. I’m sure obama will milk this but…Osama bred monsters world over to do his work. I’m sure his succession planning was of the highest quality. If anything, and I am not normally an alarmist, the world needs to be on high alert right now.

  228. I Think that Hillary had much more to do with the removal of OBL than any one else in the WH.Her travels to so many countries and private meetings with world Leaders created the scenario for the operation to eliminate Bin Laden.She was constantly critisized for being too trusting of many leaders.As usual the playboy took all the credit.Just wait and see how he handles the Muslim backlash before his supporting
    yo yo’s turn on him as a war monger.We are now in dangerous waters.Hang in there Hillary we need you now
    more than ever.BO does’nt know his a– from a hole in the ground.

  229. They ought to have hung his body by the heels from a meathook (a la Mussolini) on a rope dangling from a helicopter and flown him back here to drop him on the Trade Center site where we could all throw garbage and whatever remains of the wreckage from the towers on top of him.
    ……….if he really is recently killed, that is. It all smells like long dead fish. I don’t believe anything that comes from the White House. I loathe this administration as much as I do the damned radical muslims. Bare-faced Liar Hussein Obummer is as big an enemy of the western world as any medieval culture out of the ME. And he made sure Bin Laden will live forever by not showing the only proof of his death – the body.

  230. The house he lived in was steps away from the Pakistani Military academy..and we are to believe Pakistani spy agency ISI didn’t know about!

  231. Sept 1st is my target date BD.Only hope I can live to see Hillary rewarded for her loyalty to the world our country and her party no matter how they treat her.

  232. Huh, Obots chanting “yes we can” in front of the WH, funny how they were there right before the annoucenment, isn’t it?
    At least there were some US flags there, in another video I see there were many Obot placards as well.

  233. He is a techie with an education from a univ.. why wouldn’t he use English? I looked for tells in his tweets but can’t find any. Other eyewitness account are corroborating similar timeline. Anyway, who knows.

  234. The house he lived in was steps away from the Pakistani Military academy.

    ==============

    Better check that.

  235. Reuters) – The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.

    “This was a kill operation,” the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.

  236. Be interested to see the new polls as he was gradually moving back up and today is -1.0 on RCP. I suspect he will be a plus 6.8 % by weeks end.

  237. Buried at sea within 12 hours? I smell something fishy here…no pun included.

    Show me the money!

  238. You worry about those fake polls too much jb. He will have a bump but the economy is in the tanker

    Are you better off now than 4 years ago?

    Show me the body, this is complete BS. He could say he killed anyone…where’s the proof?

  239. “This was a kill operation,” the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.

    ===============

    Extradition problems?

  240. Remember what won 2008 was the problem that hit in the economy very close to the election, and the feeling that O could do something about it.

    As the price of gas continues, it will have an effect on the economy, and its recovery, and I feel the American people will put their faith in the candidate they think can do the job of fixing the economy.

    The capture of O will result in a slight bump, but the price of gas will continue to rise.

  241. Joy on the view is on a high. I have to start wondering with her intense high’s and low’s if maybe there are some problems there.

    She is grining, and and making jestures that the next in command should have his throat cut, and of course saying O did a wonderful job. She is practically jumping up and down in her seat. She really has highs, anger, and lows.

  242. Skepticism throughout the world…ya think?
    ****

    White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse
    May 02, 2011 10:55 AM

    The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden’s dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News.

    “There’s no doubt it’s him,” says a US official who has seen the pictures and also reminds us that OBL was 6’4”.

    The argument for releasing them: to ensure that the public knows and can appreciate that he’s dead. There is of course skepticism throughout the world that the US government claim that it killed bin Laden is true.

    The argument against releasing the pictures: they’re gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible.

    In July 2003, the US government released photographs of Saddam Hussein’s dead sons Uday and Qusay Hussain but not until after they’d been touched up by a mortician, making them look not quite real.

    For more on the raid that killed bin Laden, see my Good Morning America report:

  243. I am also wondering about the nations reactions. It feels like we have over blown it. If the war was over, I could understand, but he has a next in command who is really running things.

    I guess it is just the symbolism of it, but what was the reaction when Hitler committed suicide. That was before my time, so I really don’t know.

  244. gonzotx
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    Reuters) – The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.

    “This was a kill operation,” the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.
    _______________

    Something fishy here. He knew too much obviously. He had a CIA connection during the Russisan and Afghanistan war. He would have so much to tell if they had captured him. On one report they held his body for days for DNA testing and the next report he was buried at sea within hours.

  245. I think he is dead…the body would be a problem as if they turned it over they would make a shrine for him, and if they kept it, it would insult their religios beliefs. Perhaps dumping him at sea was the right course of action. I am not saying Barry came up with any of this, but as President he gets credit, warranted or not.

  246. Jane Harman (D) was quite reasonable on Fox giving credit to all three presidents, Clinton, Bush, and Obumba.. in what happened to Bin Laden and I agree with that. The fact that it took so long shows how he was given safe heaven in Afghanistan first and then in Pakistan in the recent years. It goes to show how corrupt and disloyal Pakistani ISI is in spite of the billions they get from the US and the fact that this guy was right under their noses in a military town. Killing him was the most sane option — can you imagine the aftermath if he was captured alive?

  247. A day for prayerful reflection with thanks to God.

    A prayer that this will bring an end to these perpetual wars and a return to America as we knew it.

  248. andyp
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    You are right. It was announced he was killed a week ago and they were doing testing for DNA, then announced he was killed yesterday..No one pouncing on this. Sorry, it does not pass the smell test.

  249. and the US dollar starts plummeting again, it got a smallbounce of the bin Laden killing, but now its headed down again, gold shooting up again.
    Jobs report comes out this week, if it goes down, then that’s horrible news, because it will mean even more people have completely stopped looking for work, and the US workforce has shrunk to its lowest level in over 80+ years.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dollar-plummets-may-2nd-edition

  250. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2011/0502/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-near-Pakistan-s-West-Point.-Was-he-really-hidden

    The world’s most wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, made his last stand in Pakistan – but far from the lawless Afghan border, where he was believed to be hiding out. Instead, US forces killed him in the military town of Abbottabad, a short jog from Pakistan’s version of West Point and 75 miles north of the capital.

    Neither Pakistani nor American military operations have targeted the city in the past. The location raises questions as to how long the Pakistani military knew of the Saudi extremist’s hiding spot and whether they shielded him.

    “It seems deeply improbable that Bin Laden could have been where he was killed without the knowledge of some parts of the Pakistani state,” says Mosharraf Zaidi, a leading Pakistani columnist, noting Abbottabad’s strategic importance.

    Abbottabad residents tell the Monitor that around 1 a.m. Monday morning, US Special Forces battled Bin Laden’s bodyguards some 800 yards from the Pakistani Military Academy.

    Shafiq, a local who was worried about reprisal, says he saw a large fleet of helicopters firing upon the compound. He heard two small blasts, then a huge explosion followed by a helicopter crashing and engulfing the area in flames.

  251. I don’t get why “bury” him at sea that quickly. I’m no military expert, but I remember with Saddam and his sons, the pictures were shown, and then they were buried.

    I’m wondering why do it like this?

  252. RedState
    *****

    Bin Laden Caught through Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay

    According to recent information, Osama bin Laden was killed by the use of information that was obtained by “enhanced interrogation techniques” at Guntanamo Bay Prison. Details are sketchy right at the moment, as this article is going to press the day after America has learned of bin Laden’s killing-but this report appears to be true. “Enhanced interrogation techniques” can be assumed to be waterboarding, or some other form of torture. This information is such a strong rebuke against people who want to close Gitmo that it is eye-watering.

    With no sense of sarcasm, many on the left called for both closing Guantanamo Bay Prison, and an end to the use of waterboarding. Osama bin Laden was caught and killed through the usage of both things. Apparently, al Qaeda terrorists were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay, and they confessed to the CIA the identity of Osama bin Laden’s messenger. From there, the CIA began to track bin Laden’s messenger in Pakistan. The CIA tracked the messenger to Osama bin Laden’s compound, and sent in the Navy Seals to kill him. The Seals, possibly the most elite warriors on the planet, went in with guns blazing and took bin Laden out. America had now achieved one of the biggest military victories since World War II.

    Sadly, the left in America was so naive in its thinking, that the closing of Gitmo and possible end of waterboarding were two of the things that got Obama elected. His promises to do so were undoubtedly things that contributed to him winning his Nobel Peace Prize.

    At the height of the liberals’ treason, actor Matt Damon stated that he thought that George W. Bush should be waterboarded when asked the question by Chris Matthews. If that had happened and presumably George Bush had stopped waterboarding terrorists, Osama bin Laden would still be alive and plotting his next attack against America-maybe with nuclear weapons. Waterboarding also led to the blocking of a 9/11 style attack on Los Angeles which saved thousands of lives. It looks as though Matt Damon wanted to get thousands and thousands of Americans killed. For someone who went to Harvard, Matt Damon seems awfully dumb. It blows me away that his “Good Will Hunting” brain couldn’t figure that out. The thing is that I know that he can figure that out, and he has simply been brainwashed by the Saul Alinsky elements of our society. All the liberals on the left with Matt Damon ought to be branded traitors along with him. And to think-many a conservative’s career has been ended when liberal Hollywood simply learned that they voted Republican.

    The sad thing is that many of the people celebrating out in the streets today over bin Laden’s death are undoubtedly some of the people who called for the closing of Gitmo and an end to waterboarding. This is a massive triumph for conservatives, and I’m interested to see how the Liberal Media will spin this. Will Chris Matthews pretend like he didn’t ask Matt Damon if he thought that George Bush ought to be waterboarded? I”m checking to see the blush on Chris Matthews’s face over the next few weeks, when he sees that he greatly aided Osama bin Laden, and almost helped him escape.

    In any event, we now see that waterboarding and Guantanamo Bay are essential tools for winning the War on Terror, and this is one of the biggest defeats for the liberals ever in the information war. Undoubtedly, America needs to reduce its footprint in the Middle East and eliminate the things that draw the ire of Arab terrorists in the future, but at the same time, we really can’t stand down, and allow the terrorists military victories. I believe that we need to sprint to the finish in destroying al Qaeda, but then focus on a withdrawal from the Middle East, and we need to stop funding Israel. Their problems are their problems, and there is no need to let them draw us into war after war on their behalf. Israel could cover the $2-3 billion we give them every year by taxing their citizens more. Osama bin Laden stated on several occasions that his reasoning for attacking America was the fact that America supports Israel. And certainly, America doesn’t owe Israel any favors.

    In short, this is a triumph, and America is rightfully celebrating, but we definitely need to remember the lessons of the past. When we have an enemy, we commit, and we do anything in order to win. The worst thing we can do is commit halfheartedly, and allow the liberals’ treason to continue. Basically, Matt Damon and Chris Matthews need to shut up, or move into bin Laden’s hideout.

  253. “Instead, US forces killed him in the military town of Abbottabad, a short jog from Pakistan’s version of West Point and 75 miles north of the capital.”

    They knew where this bastard was, they knew it and refused to disclose it.

  254. I am at the point I don’t believe a freaking thing anymore unless there is undeniable proof.

    Sad

  255. Geez, I ‘ve been reading comments by people on the net who think this has sealed reelection for Obama and that he will be remembered as the next Lincoln….

    While Obots are delirious about this event–I think the genuine joy of all Americans at seeing Obama finally gone will eventually fade after a few days as the reality of daily life sinks back into daily conciousness.

    I don’t think Obama will get a long term boost out of this. The man didn’t shoot Osama himself…the White House is enjoying the festive mood right now (and the distraction from other things) but really, can you imagine anyone but the most fervent Obot saying they will vote for Obama simply because Obama was killed while he was president?

    Admin, can’t wait for your take on all this hoopla…

  256. tim
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    I don’t get why “bury” him at sea that quickly
    ****

    Maybe because they never really had him? Or he is locked away,being waterboarded for answers? Who the hell knows? I am sure burial at sea is not a muslim custom. Does anyone know?

  257. I really wish you would stop posting this eyorish comments.

    jbstonesfan
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Most people here in my law office seem to think this seals his re-election..hard to disagree as it certainly takes away the national secuirty issues from the republicans..The irony is that Bin Ladin was killed by a President who is pro-muslim .

  258. BTW,

    I do not believe a single report about OBL’s death. Where’s the proof? Cover-up, distract, change – the -subject.

    It is all BS.

  259. The irony is that Bin Ladin was killed by a President who is pro-muslim .

    ==================

    The irony is that Obama is getting credit for what other people did. The SEALS, and probably Hillary.

  260. Bin Laden Caught through Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay

    =========================

    I had a vision of BL surfing through the Bay….

  261. Maybe OBL had the frauds birth certificate?

    Hahahahaha.

    Maybe they were separated at birth?

  262. basil9
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    I hate to be the same way, but I’m wondering why they wouldn’t want to release the dead bin laden’s pictures? Do they think it will inflame the muslim world more? I mean, its already been declared the man is killed, so what difference would be make to show the proof?

    they did it with saddamn and his sons. I don’t get it, I am willing to be open minded, in the sense if this will endanger US soldiers, etc, but I see no logic in not releasing those pictures of his death.

  263. The Seals, possibly the most elite warriors on the planet, went in with guns blazing and took bin Laden out. America had now achieved one of the biggest military victories since World War II.

    ==============

    Good for the SEALS, and for the Navy guys who shot the Somali pirates, going on doing their jobs in spite of Obama.

    But it’s hardly one of the biggest military victories since WWII !

  264. the body would be a problem as if they turned it over they would make a shrine for him, and if they kept it, it would insult their religios beliefs. Perhaps dumping him at sea was the right course of action.

    ===================

    Or CLAIMING they dumped it at sea, all gone, sorry, move on. While really keeping it for future tests etc.

    That’s one conspiracy I can credit. SEALS against the BAnderlog. I wonder if they’d even tell Obama.

  265. tim
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    I don’t get why “bury” him at sea that quickly
    ****

    Maybe because they never really had him? Or he is locked away,being waterboarded for answers? Who the hell knows? I am sure burial at sea is not a muslim custom. Does anyone know?
    ______________

    On CBC Newsworld they said that they offered his body to Saudi Arabia and other countries who did not want it. It is news that will last a few days. What bounce did anyone get from the capture/killing of Saddam and his two sons? Maybe Obama will use it in order to take the troops out of Afghanistan so that he can think of himself as a hero for the next election. I can hear it all now – we just went in there to get bin Laden. Mission accomplished.

  266. On one report they held his body for days for DNA testing and the next report he was buried at sea within hours.

    =================

    WEll, four helicopters landing and a shootout is something the neighbors would notice and mark on their calendars.

  267. Another report is that he died over 10 years ago and was kept on ice.

    I have a feeling that the reports are going to get worse before they get better.

  268. AmericanGal
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Geez, I ‘ve been reading comments by people on the net who think this has sealed reelection for Obama and that he will be remembered as the next Lincoln….
    _____________

    You are way off the mark, AmericanGal. Obama declared himself the next Lincoln a few years ago and if Obama says he is the next lincoln he is the next Lincoln. Remember!! If he says it, then it is so.

  269. JanH
    May 2nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    Another report is that he died over 10 years ago and was kept on ice.

    I have a feeling that the reports are going to get worse before they get better.
    ____________

    I saw a video (which is obviously a few yeas old) in which Benazir Bhutto said Bin Ladin had been killed a few years prior to that.

  270. Do they think it will inflame the muslim world more? I mean, its already been declared the man is killed, so what difference would be make to show the proof?

    ==================

    Doubters would say the pictures are faked. Believers would be inflamed. Lose/lose.

  271. Mrs. Smith,
    I’m good….and very glad Bin Laden is dead….and I agree with ABM90….Hillary handprints are all over this….did anyone see what she said this morning….she’s the one with the testicles…it sickens me she never gets any credit, but with Hillary that unimportant….she wants us safer….

  272. turndownobama
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Bin Laden Caught through Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay

    =========================

    I had a vision of BL surfing through the Bay….
    *****************************
    Funny.
    Claiming that waterboarding did this is another example of everybody spinning a crisis/big story to their advantage. The right wants to claim that waterboarding gave us his location. How long has it been since waterboarding was stopped – 2 1/2 years or maybe more. This is over the top.

  273. confloyd,

    If you listen to Hillary’s press event that I posted above, she absolutely shines with leadership.

  274. Hi Confloyd: It is good to see you posting. It has been a long time since I have seen you post.

  275. It makes me wonder why he released his BC at all if he was sitting on an operation like this and there was a good chance the outcome was going to be good. Unless they wanted to mock Trump in WHCD and they could not effectively do that without the other thing. It all sounds so juvenile and especially in the context of this bin Laden operation. So the WH and Obama plan the silly political operations and our excellent military plans the navy seal special ops and kills bin Laden. What a combination! Obummer takes credit without as much as acknowledging everyone else including Bush.

  276. It makes me wonder why he released his BC at all if he was sitting on an operation like this and there was a good chance the outcome was going to be good. Unless they wanted to mock Trump in WHCD and they could not effectively do that without the other thing.

    ===============

    Makes sense to me, WHCD or no WHCD. Release bc, say nya nya to Trump, declare victory, declare Trump dead. Then — before Trump has a chance to respond — comes the Bin Laden bombshell to wipe all the bc stuff off the news with this big serious international triumph for Obama.

    Any further talk about bc or records issues will be anticlimax and ‘bringing back old discredited issues’.

  277. I think that the waffles people totally mishandled this. he has appeared like such a small man the past few weeks. The correspondents dinner got more coverage because he attacked TRUMP with the Donald in the audience. People who don’t follow politics found it petty. Snub by the Royals. Etc.
    bin laden may have been killed yesterday or last week but it seems if they knew where he was he wasn’t going anywhere without our intelligence knowing. The decision to take him out now strikes me as a political move. Glad it was done but I think he would have scored more points if he had placed more emphasis on the military and left his own role to be acknowledged by others. And the crowd outside the WH. Really how old were these kids on 9/11? Assembling that fast on a Sunday night, with flags? I just don’t see the visual working. And I’ve already heard people who don’t really follow politics wonder if he intentionally chose to speak during the time The Apprentice aired.
    I would like to believe that it was all done in good faith and with respect to the victims of 9/11 and their families, but it sickens me to think that there was an orchestration of the events for political gain.

  278. The right wants to claim that waterboarding gave us his location. How long has it been since waterboarding was stopped – 2 1/2 years or maybe more.

    =================

    Rightwingers are claiming that several years ago the CIA got the name of a friend of Osama’s (‘courier’) and it took the CIA this long to track down the friend’s address (where they found Osama).

  279. pm317,

    I do not beleive any of it. Acording to some accounts, Osama was killedd last week. If that’s true, and MightyMouth sat on the info just to produce his LFBC and go after Trump, well, all I anc say is I wouldn’t put it past him.

    Remember when no one here believed he had gone to see his granny when she was supposedly dying?

    I believe nothing this POS says. It’s all orchestrated, planned, honed for maximum affect. I say BS to the whole thing until I see proof.

  280. Well, looks like Trump has more class that President WTF ever will, Trump, like a patriot congratualation Waffles and the US military for a “job well done”.

  281. “wonder if he intentionally chose to speak during the time The Apprentice aired.”

    That’s what I believe. It’s too coincidental.

  282. What’s odd to me is the description of the compound. It stood out as odd (high walls, no windows, etc). But it was no help against helicopter landings — which is what they should have expected.

  283. TRUMPS tweet

    Donald J. Trump

    On Monday 2nd May 2011, @realDonaldTrump said:

    I want to personally congratulate President Obama and the men women of the Armed Forces for a job very well done. I am so proud to see Americans standing shoulder to shoulder, waving the American flag in celebration of this great victory.
    We should spend the next several days not debating party politics, but in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9/11 and those fighting for our freedom. God Bless

  284. OBL needed to be tried for the thousands of murders he committed on 9/11. This is BS to me.

    Remember Nuremberg trials anyone?

    Now THAT would have been remarkable!

    No body,no evidence…something very much like his BC. Everything about this fraud is fake.

  285. Acording to some accounts, Osama was killedd last week. If that’s true, and MightyMouth sat on the info just to produce his LFBC and go after Trump, well, all I anc say is I wouldn’t put it past him.

    ==========

    The SEALS and other military people wouldn’t have stood for that. (“Hey, guys, send four helicopters to Attenbad for a fake attack on, let’s see, when is the next episode of The Apprentice?”)

    What I might credit, is that the military planned and timed the attack legitimately (confirm the location then attack before BL finds out what you’re up to) — then Obama hurried up to release his bc just before that bombshell would make bc stuff non-news.

  286. Did anyone else find the chants of USA disconcerting. Reminded me more of a party after your team wins the Super Bowl than a somber reflection on the events of 9/11.

  287. And the crowd outside the WH. Really how old were these kids on 9/11? Assembling that fast on a Sunday night, with flags? I just don’t see the visual working.

    ===========

    Really, that was ridiculous, unbelievble! Tho not as offensive as turning the Tucson memorial into a campaign rally.

  288. Did anyone else find the chants of USA disconcerting. Reminded me more of a party after your team wins the Super Bowl than a somber reflection on the events of 9/11.
    =======================

    I had mixed emotions about it…On the one hand, I was proud as an Ameican that we hunted this killer down. On the other hand, it reminded me of the Palestinians/Muslims who cheered when the towers went down. Perhaps this coming 9/11 it will be a more sobering, respectful display.

  289. the Palestinians/Muslims who cheered when the towers went down.

    =================

    Which turned out to be old footage of people cheering for a sports event. Pls stop circulating that meme.

  290. “I had mixed emotions about it…On the one hand, I was proud as an Ameican that we hunted this killer down. On the other hand, it reminded me of the Palestinians/Muslims who cheered when the towers went down. ”

    That pretty much describes my feelings as well. I remember seeing the cheering overseas, made me very angry.

  291. jbstonesfan
    May 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I think he is dead…the body would be a problem as if they turned it over they would make a shrine for him, and if they kept it, it would insult their religios beliefs. Perhaps dumping him at sea was the right course of action. I am not saying Barry came up with any of this, but as President he gets credit, warranted or not.

    ——-
    I agree, getting rid of the body, where no one can steal it is the best thing.

    I was kind of hoping that his brain would be removed and buried inside a stinky shoe with the soul pointed South, toward Hell.

  292. OK Gang.

    Anyone else with me? I DO. NOT. BELIEVE.THIS STORY.

    I don’t believe OBL has been “buried at sea.” How convenient an ending. Just like scattering what were obstensibly granny’s ashes in Hawaii. I have been listening to Brenna’s PC for the past half hour and I am not convinced.

    Lies. All Lies. Might Mouth has united us all in not believing anything he says.

    I find this account of the capture of OBL a fairy tale.

    It just don’t smell right.

  293. I’m sure the basic facts are as given. Someone suggested the Pakistanis were keeping him under house arrest. But if so, they should have used an undergroudn compound with limited access: not noticeable high walls open to helicopters.

  294. Which turned out to be old footage of people cheering for a sports event. Pls stop circulating that meme.
    ================

    I don’t accept that ….they were very happy and celebrated the death of innocent Americans. This is what their ultimate goal is -death to Jews, Christians, and all other infidels.

  295. They decided not to bomb BLs hide out because there might not be any remaining evidence to prove they killed him when the dust settled.

  296. Congress has seen photos of BL’s dead body. They don’t know if they should release it, gruesome. They say, there is a pretty big hole over his left eye, showing blood and brains.

  297. Honestly, I can’t beleive this POS, who hired truther Van Jones (you-know – the guy who said Bush brought down the towers), who had so little respect for 911 he was for building a mosque there, who wouldn’t even bend at the waste to place flowers at the memorial site, that this POS is now going to take credit for avenging the US for 911.

    This is all so wrong. And I still don’t believe it. Show me the friggin body!

    What’s the muslim reaction? Moononpluto?

  298. I wouldn’t put it past BL to have taped a message that he is still alive, and it was kept just in case he died.

    Maybe even a couple of videos with different colored sheets around his shoulders. 🙂

  299. ‘No body,no evidence…something very much like his BC. Everything about this fraud is fake.’

    My feelings exactly.

  300. Still photos mean nothing; too easy to fake. Really,there’s no kind of evidence that would be conclusive — except word of the many military people involved in this. And accounts from locals who saw the helicopters, and videos of the building burning, etc. And whatever Pakistan releases when they inspect the location.

    They might fake a burial at sea,but not the whole attack.

  301. basil9
    May 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    OK Gang.
    Anyone else with me? I DO. NOT. BELIEVE.THIS STORY.

    I emailed my sis (lives halfway across the world) about the burial at sea, which had not yet been reported there and she said “smells fishy.” So that’s 2 of us who are with you.

  302. I bet Barry had something to do with this…

    He murdered thousands of innocent people and they honor his body………WTF!!!

    ———–

    DEVELOPING: Usama bin Laden was given a religious funeral prior to his burial at sea, senior military officials told Fox News.

    Religious rites were conducted on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier at about 1:10 a.m. Monday in the Persian Gulf.

    In accordance with Islamic practice, bin Laden was washed and wrapped in a white sheet before buried at sea at 2 a.m. local time, senior U.S. military and intelligence officials said.

    Bin Laden, who resisted capture, was “living rather comfortably” in the compound, an official told Fox News.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/02/bin-laden-given-religious-funeral-prior-sea-burial/#ixzz1LDrodgIx

  303. gonzo
    So I guess now we are going to be called what? deathers? burial-at-sea-ers?
    How about “habeas corpsers”?

  304. Shadowfax
    May 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    He always mentioned current events in his videos, just so you would know…we shall see

  305. I believe bin laden was killed don’t think we will ever know the details but I also feel that the timing is suspect. After the years of shame gifted to us by waffles and Bush there seems to be a growing sense of pride, anger and frustration. TRUMP was /is speaking to that and what better way for bambi to take some of the wind out of his sails than to kill America’s enemy number one.

  306. I think that the main area Obama deserves credit is the decision to use ground forces as opposed to bombing from the air. The risk of something going terribly wrong with a ground assault were much higher, yet they pulled it off despite the one helicopter becomming disabled. That decison, which could have left him open to wide critism had it ended like Carter’s botched attemptback in 79 , imo, does deserve some praise. Again, I am sure he listened to his national secuirty teams recommnedations, Hillary, etc, but surprisingly he made the right call and did not vote “present”.

  307. As to whether the person killed was really Bin Laden, the CIA and military’s motive would be to continue the ‘search for Bin Laden’ in Afganistan — not to fake the bogeyman is dead.

    Bin Laden himself might have staked out a double in this obvious location. But the CIA has DNA from his sister to match that of the body.

  308. Being lazy here and not reading later posts..

    admin
    May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 am

    The United States is treating Osama bin Laden’s body in ‘accordance with Islamic practice,’ White House official says.

    &&&&&&&&&

    I heard on the radio news this morning that he would be “buried at sea”. Which immediately brought to mind, “isn’t THAT convenient?”.

    As in, “Yeah, we shot some guy, we get credit for ‘killing bin Laden’, the president gets credit for ‘making it happen’, no doubt leading to another Nobel Peace Prize, and Osama gets to live under cover in Las Vegas.

    The NYT just the other day had a story on the voice of Saddam Hussein, with the conspiracy theorists thinking he was allowed to escape, and Bush gets credit for offing him. Wasn’t he too killed in such a way that confirmation could not be ascertained?

  309. First of all, the press reports coming out are ALL statements by unidentified or anonymous sources. We learned long ago, if a name isn’t attached to a statement- it’s nothing more than BS for framing the drama.

    So, it goes. The plan is always the same- leave a trail of breadcrumbs to be picked up one by one for those following the story until the bread crumbs end either in a circle, convoluted circle or a flat dead end, so layered with lies, it’s impossible to tell Truth from Fiction.

    The more I’ve read today, I don’t believe OBL is even dead. I can believe his health is failing to the point he is in urgent need of a Kidney transplant and a place heal and walk freely out the the loop without the stress of capture or ID for the rest of his days. (Bush/Cheney owe him plenty and have pampered the assassin for the last 30 yrs)

    THe in depth description published of the raid- black helicopters, Navy Seals, the whole extravaganza with Obama starring in the sequel to his last hit movie, “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”, now starring in his latest Thriller, directed by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld new world order productions, “Where’s Bin Laden?” should prove to give his sagging political career a timely boost it so sorely needed.

    International DVD release next Monday- if you’re buying anything the Press Reports and Obama says, is True.

  310. Well, How do you like this:

    just found this @ DU- a few minutes ago- My previous post on the last thread- I swear, I had no knowledge of this… The story just came to me as I was typing… do notice the release date.. another preemptive strike of Jerome Corsi’s book due out on the 19th. His other book ObamaNation is due out on the 7th…
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    Already-Written Book About Navy Seal Group That Killed Osama Bin Laden Suddenly Hot

    Source: Hollywood Reporter

    A book about the Navy Seal group Seal Team Six, members of which killed Osama Bin Laden in a mansion near Islamabad, will be published this May.

    According to Publisher’s Weekly, the book, Seal Team Six is by Howard Wasdin, is due to hit stores on May 24.

    It will chronicle the specialized military group, called Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru for short. It’s a unit of the Joint Special Operations Command, which costs the country more than $1 billion annually to fund.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/written-book-navy-seal-group-184084

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