The Race Card Versus The Trump Card

Hillary Clinton was smeared as a “racist” by the Barack Obama campaign. Bill Clinton was smeared as a “racist” by the Barack Obama campaign. Yet somehow there are Republicans/conservatives who live in a fantasy world in which they believe their favored candidate for president will escape without being called a “racist”. This is just plain stupid.

It’s their party so it is up to Republicans to decide their own fate. But those Republicans/conservatives who choose to trash Donald Trump in order to remove The Donald as an obstacle to their favored candidate should remember the words of Benjamin FranklinWe must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

We have repeatedly warned Republicans/conservatives about what is to come and what must be done. Our first article warning Republicans/conservatives was published in May of 2009 “The Republican Secret Weapon – Hillary Clinton.” Our advice holds true today:

“In that article we advised that every time the “racist” card was played the response should be “you called Hillary Clinton a racist too and nobody believes you. Every attack from Obama thugs should be parried with “you said/did that against Hillary too and we you were wrong then and you are wrong now”. We cited conservative Andrea Tantaros who smartly responded to attacks by Obama thugs by playing the Hillary Clinton card.”

Now the “race card”, as we suggested in “The Trump Card” is being played from the top of the dirty deck against Donald Trump. Not surprisingly the “race card” is dealt by JournoListers Ben Smith and Maggie Haberman at Politico. Here’s now the smearing begins:

“Trump courts black backlash

Donald Trump’s strategy of spurring interest in his presidential campaign by flirting with discredited theories about President Barack Obama’s birthplace is stirring a growing backlash among prominent African-Americans, who are protective of the first black president and, in some cases, concerned that Trump is making a coded racial appeal.

Trump’s confrontational appearances had already begun to raise questions about whether his political flirtation was, as widely assumed, a stunt aimed at raising his profile and ratings, and his willingness to alienate a share of the television audience — and to drag his cautious corporate employers into the incendiary politics of race — have spurred speculation that he has either badly miscalculated or is serious about running for president.”

At first Ben Smith and the JournoLister cohort mocked Donald Trump’s potential campaign as a publicity stunt. After the polls in New Hampshire and nationwide demonstrated that The Donald poses a real threat to the golden calf, the smears began and the lies and misrepresentations began in organized earnest.

As with Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, the race card was initially played with insinuations about raised “questions”. With Donald Trump the not very disguised threat is that he will “drag his cautious corporate employers into the incendiary politics of race.” Take note NBC this is a warning to you from the JournoListers.

JournoLister Ben Smith then takes off the wrapping from the dirty deck and plays the race card followed by another race card:

“There’s a lot of people that I’ve talked to [who] instinctively think that he’s using the issue as a proxy for race,” Urban League President Marc Morial, the former New Orleans mayor, told POLITICO. “I don’t know if it has resonance in the Republican Party but I certainly think it has resonance in certain far right elements of the American public.”

“It’s like a modern day Salem witch trial — because there’s no merit to it,” he said.

Morial’s comment follows escalating criticism from black colleagues of Trump’s in the entertainment industry.

He needs to stop saying that racist bulls— Birther s—,” Grammy Award-winning singer John Legend told The Root last week. “Quote me, please. He should be ashamed of himself. It’s awful, really.”

Bill Cosby has also engaged in a public spat with Trump, who is only running, Cosby said, “his mouth.”

“Donald Trump is such a looser 2 me this morning by trashing our president!” actress Vivica Fox tweeted. “I mean really dude! STFU!” His “Celebrity Apprentice” castmate Star Jones also tweeted her objection to birther views, and suggested they are motivated by race.”

He’s a racist! The threat directed at Trump is made very very clear – shut up or the race card will turn to a race based assault:

Trump’s shows boast a solid African-American viewership and black cast members [and a recent NBC/WSJ poll found, according to NBC’s Domenico Montanaro, that the among the groups that views him most positively is African-Americans], some of whom he’s likely alienating. “As a people, we celebrated his business acumen; purchased his books and anything else with the Trump name we could get our hands on,” Goldie Taylor wrote on The Grio. “Now among African-Americans, the once gilded Trump brand is about as worthless as a plug nickel.”

I’m not calling Trump a racist. But he ought to quit quacking before people start believing he’s a duck.,” she wrote.”

Shut up Donald Trump or you too will be smeared as a RACIST. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton also had that “gilded” brand of popularity among African-Americans. Then the race card was played and life long civil rights activism (not just recent words) was smeared away and they became “racists”.

Donald Trump and every Republican/conservative candidate and website better get ready to be branded as “racists”. Trump better prepare for the attempts to shut him up by going after his supporters and enterprises and labeling them racists. Prepare for an Al Sharpton picket line and crazed protests:

“Hank Ernest, who works in public relations in Atlanta and first pointed this dynamic out to me a couple of weeks ago, said he’d stopped watching The Apprentice and, after joking about a boycott on Facebook, been surprised by his friends enthusiasm for the idea.

I figure that this is Trump’s way of realizing that he won’t get the black vote, so he might as well get all the white vote he can,” he said.”

Republicans/conservatives and even Hillary Clinton supporters who don’t fight back better not complain when other candidates are smeared. If Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and to a much lesser extent Donald Trump can so easily be smeared as “racists” imagine how elementary Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney (one of those behind the scenes and even publicly trashing Donald Trump after secretly trashing Sarah Palin), Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Haley Barbour (already hit with the charge), Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Ron Paul, will be to smear. Herman Cain better not think he won’t be labeled a racist either just because he is black. Marco Rubio better not think he is immune (quite the contrary) to the race card because he is Latino.

Donald Trump will be on the Sean Hannity show tonight. He better be prepared to respond to the race card. The smears are coming from Barack Obama’s closest allies:

“Gov. Patrick: Racism in birther movement

New York (CNN) – In an interview with CNN’s “In the Arena” host Eliot Spitzer, Democratic Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick admitted racism may be playing into the birther movement.

Patrick, a close friend and political ally of the president, campaigned for him in 2008 and plans to appear with Obama during the 2012 presidential campaign.

When asked whether questioning the president’s birth certificate can be linked to racism, Patrick said, “Well, there might be.”

“I think there are people who are organizing around their anger rather than around particular issues.” Patrick said. “Anger and fear has been a tool used politically for a long time in the world and is being used I think by the national republican party today.”

Any smear, any lie will do. Late yesterday a news item by the “respectable” U.S. News and World Report claimed that Republican National Chairman told “Donald Trump and other so-called “birthers”: Shut up!” STFU! The story was completely fake. Reince Priebus has never said such a thing.

The Race Card is being played against Donald Trump because he can potentially win. It’s The Race Card Versus the Trump Card. Republican/conservative Red State ‘splains:

“I’m not surprised Mitt Romney is the front runner right now. I knew that he would be. Large segments of Americans don’t want another George W. Bush traditional Republican. You can beat your head against a wall about that for a long time to come, but that’s what my people say. And my guess is that he’s going to be the Republican nominee in the end. What’s more surprising, though, is that Donald Trump is gaining so much ground, so quickly.

How can this be? I myself am surprised at that, a little, so I’ve tried to think of an answer as to why?

While everyone’s heads are also spinning trying to answer that question, I can give a few guideposts: the fact is that Donald Trump is doing a better job when he’s in front of the camera articulating a message against Barack Obama’s second term in office. He doesn’t pull punches, and he just speaks very plainly. He’s doing an especially good job telling Americans what they want to hear about China, and in terms of the economy he’s pumping out red meat through a firehose. I expect that firehose to turn into a whole Company pretty soon.

But here’s the big lesson, and this is why Trump is rising: In terms of our recent national politics, he’s someone everyone knows but is also a completely fresh face, and when he did reveal himself as a Republican it attracted DROVES of attention. He’s a chimeric figure. He is the middle ground between Barack Obama (who nobody knew) and John McCain (who everybody knew). America also doesn’t want a traditional Republican Conservative and it also doesn’t want another Obama. Donald Trump has gauged the national mood precisely. Obama looks more and more like a train wreck every day, he’s obviously beholden and ineffective, and Americans are looking for something…comfortably radical.”

Donald Trump is doing very well in the polls, at the moment. Even the piano players in the whorehouse have been forced to acknowledge this reality:

“Eccentric billionaire, real estate mogul and reality television star Donald Trump is now tied for the lead in the Republican presidential primary race, according to a CNN poll released today.

That finding caps off a stunning two weeks that have seen Trump rising in the GOP field nationally and polling near the front of the pack in crucial early primary states. And while the primaries are still a long way off, and only a few candidates are officially in the field, it raises the question of just how viable a Trump candidacy would be. [snip]

This is the second poll in as many weeks to show Trump giving the establishment candidates a run for their money. Last week, an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed Trump running in second place at 17%, just behind frontrunner Romney’s 21%.

Romney fell furthest in the CNN survey since March, dropping seven points from his second place finish one month ago.”

Many Republican/conservative websites are scratching their heads and rationalizing that Trump can’t win and that his “threat” to go independent has doomed him. They might be right, they might be wrong. Certainly they know the inner workings of their party better than we do. But Donald Trump is a joke only to those who might not be laughing very soon:

“I’ve been worried that this whole presidential flirtation was little more than a ploy to drive up ratings on “The Apprentice,” but according to Newsmax, he’s set to declare next month.

Oh, also: He’ll be providing details of his announcement press conference during the season finale of “The Apprentice.” [snip]

His timing is perfect: Arizona’s senate finally passed its “Birther bill” just this morning. Rick Santorum may or may not be in the process of announcing his own candidacy on Greta Van Susteren’s show as I write this, which is also good news. The bigger the field, the more fun the race will be to blog. Imagine a southern bloc of Huckabee and Barbour, a libertarian bloc of Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, a “true conservative” bloc of Palin, Bachmann, and Santorum, a bland yet probably electable bloc of Romney, Pawlenty, and Daniels, and … Gingrich somehow left over. Traffic bonanza.”

Yes, it will be a traffic bonanza (Donald Trump denies the report that he will say anything related to his potential run on his TV shows). We will predict now that the final episode of that reality show we have never ever watched will have a traffic/ratings bonanza and that no race baiting “boycott” will bring it low:

“Exclusive: Trump to Announce His Run for President

If you wonder whether Donald Trump is serious about running for president, tune in to the finale of “The Celebrity Apprentice” on May 15.

Trump plans to say on the NBC show that he will be holding a press conference a few days after the May 15th show. At that press conference in the Trump Tower in New York, Trump will be announcing his candidacy for the presidency.

Even then, many will snicker that it’s all a publicity stunt. But that defies the facts and common sense.

Of all the people on the planet, Donald Trump is the last person who needs more publicity. And if he is riding a groundswell of support, why would he—or anyone else—decide not to run?

Since writing the first story in January to report that Trump will definitely run, I have been amazed at how much the idea of a Trump presidency is catching on across the political spectrum. As I wrote in my story, Don’t Underestimate Donald Trump for President, he can be outrageous and boastful. But when it comes to a successful run at the presidency, don’t count him out.”

It’s the Trump Card that all Republicans/conservatives should see as a win/win no matter what candidate they support:

What motivates Trump is his disgust with President Obama, whom he considers a “disaster.” Instead of using euphemisms to describe terrorists, as the Obama administration has done, “I would go after terrorists like nobody in history,” Trump tells me.

Hungry for a change from politicians who speak out of both sides of their mouth, people appreciate Donald’s take-no-prisoners solutions to the problems the country faces. They figure that a guy who has amassed a fortune of $2.4 billion can be trusted to handle the economy and foreign affairs. Unlike other Republican candidates, Donald will have the media on his side.”

That last sentence is pathetic. Big Media will still consider Barack Obama their “darling”. For the moment Big Media, particularly the new owners of NBC/MSNBC have been staggered in The Donald’s success. NBC dares not attack Donald Trump for now. But after the fake reality shows are over, reality will hit the fan and Big Media JournoListers will go all out to smear and cause fear.

That Donald Trump has never had a drink in his life, not even a glass of white wine, will soon be turned into a menace. That he has very good relationships with his five children will be somehow turned into some ugly pimping (call Chelsea and find out what is going to happen to you and your kids Donald). His popularity will be dismissed as “name recognition”. The womanizing between marriages and the multiple marriages will be, like his hair, turned into a “character” issue by the busybodies of the right and the hypocrites of the left.

If he runs Donald Trump will not be caught unawares. He has apparently been planning and thinking:

“From talking with him, I can tell that he has thought through the details of running. Agree with him or not, those who think Trump is pulling a publicity stunt have trouble grasping the novelty of a non-politician caring enough about his country to run for president.”

Those that deride The Donald’s use of the “birther” issue miss the fact that it has indeed galvanized a critical mass in support of him. They also miss the fact that the “birther” issue is not going away until a birth certificate is produced because there are moves in state after state to make sure that there is some transparency, as had been promised, by Barack Obama. Already Arizona is poised to make a major chess move on this issue:

“Arizona’s state Senate approved a bill Wednesday that will require presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before they can be included on a state ballot.

Prompted by challenges to President Barack Obama’s citizenship and, therefore, eligibility for the job, the bill passed 20-9 in the Senate, and now moves to the state House for a final vote before heading to Republican Gov. Jan Brewer’s desk.

The legislation, a revised version of an earlier bill that would have required each candidate to provide a “long-form” birth certificate, also gives candidates the option of instead providing two of the following documents: an early baptismal or circumcision certificate, a hospital birth record, a postpartum hospital record for the mother or an early census record.”

As with any Politico report on the birth certificate issue, this one too misses the mark. The Arizona bill, actually is much more stringent (read it HERE) and requires a candidate for president to prove that he or she is compliant with the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” requirement. Oklahoma and other states are poised to follow Arizona.

If Donald Trump forces Obama to be transparent and produce his birth certificate, even if it turns out everything is clean and above board, Donald Trump will have scored a victory. If Barack Obama persists in not producing documentation then the questions will continue to rise and even the most adoring Obama fans will have to wonder “what is he hiding?” But some Republicans/conservatives don’t want to accept these formulations.

Ann Coulter, known as a fire thrower, someone who is often told herself to STFU, thinks that the best way to help her chosen non-candidate of the moment (Chris Christie) is to mock The Donald:



“Let’s face it: Obama loves when people question his place of birth. Every minute we spend discussing if Obama was born in Kenya is a minute we don’t spend saying that our weakling, perpetually golfing president has only made our economy worse and led us into a third war with nary a word of discussion. It’s time spent not pointing out that Obama promised the most outrageous things in the world – oceans would lower!–and delivered on exactly zero of those promises. Trump dragging this issue back into the spotlight is only good for one person: the American-born Barack Obama.

“Is it unfair, all you birthers out there? Sure, it’s unfair. Republicans waiting for the media to be fair to them will be waiting a long time. The Barack Obama birth certificate story is very similar in nature to the George W. Bush AWOL story. Both have no merit, both are the ‘smoking gun’ opponents hope will end their hated politicians career. Of course, our venerable media picked over the Bush records with a fine tooth comb. Associated Press sued to get the documents. Dan Rather and 60 Minutes wanted so badly to believe that the president had fudged his service that they aired the most obvious forgery of all time in primetime.”

Coulter has friends at Mediaite:

“Ever wondered where Ann Coulter comes down on the controversy surrounding Barack Obama’s birth certificate? Well the following clip from tonight’s episode of Hannity will not only reveal to you that she thinks that Donald Trump’s recent “birther” campaign seems somewhat insane, but that the entire birth certificate was ginned up by the Hillary Clinton campaign and is promoted by the liberal media as a means to delegitimize any criticism of what she thinks is a terrible presidency. Surprise!?

Host Sean Hannity seemed slightly taken aback by Coulter’s defense of the overall legitimacy of Obama’s presidency (at least in the strictest constitutional terms of being born in these United States of America) and pushed his guest to find some common ground with Trump’s seemingly quixotic exploration of Obama’s birth certificate.

Perhaps odder is the fact that Coulter’s fearless attack on Trump’s birther bombast sounds eerily similar to a post written by Mediaite’s own Tommy Christopher published earlier today. Christopher also made a Charlie Sheen reference in another Trump/Birther post. OMG – Ann Coulter is now getting her political talking points from Tommy Christopher?!”

Perhaps, if Trump keeps gaining, Coulter will denounce Trump as a racist too. Coulter has not noticed that Trump speaks not only about the birth certificate but about other matters as well, including high oil prices, which Trump blames on Obama:



“Trump Continues on Offense…

As gas prices continued to climb today, Donald Trump blasted “Mr. Wind Energy” Obama today on the high oil prices.

CNBC reported:

Real estate developer Donald Trump blames President Obama for the rising price of oil, warning, “this country can never, ever recover” if oil prices continue to go up.

“That’s really the life’s blood of the country,” Trump told CNBC in a phone interview on Monday. The Trump Organization chairman, who says he’s considering running for president, plans to decide “before June” on the matter.

He contended that Obama is not a leader and is “in bed with these (OPEC) people. He doesn’t speak the way you have to speak to them.”

Although he blames China for “ripping off our country,” Trump gives them credit for using US funds to rebuild airports, bridges and other infrastructure.”

It’s not an either/or proposition. Oil prices can be discussed, bowing before OPEC can be discussed, the birth certificate issue can be discussed, Obama’s lack of transparency can be discussed, and even Antoin “Tony” Rezko can be discussed.

There are a lot of unanswered questions about Barack Obama that must be asked and answered. IB Times reported:

President Obama “never did a deal in his life except with Tony Rezko,” said Donald Trump on Fox News.

“People should look into that one,” he added.

Trump once again went on the offensive against Obama. His previous point of attack was doubts over Obama’s birthplace. Now, it’s the latter’s long history with Tony Rezko, who Hillary Clinton in 2008 called a “slum landlord.”

Rezko is am Illinoisan political fundraiser who was convicted for fraud and bribery in 2008. He was accused of using his political position to extort money from businesses seeking contracts from the Illinois Teachers System Board and the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board.

Back in the 1990s (before Rezko’s offenses took place), two companies owned by Rezko gave the first ever contributions to Obama’s Illinois Senate campaign. In the 2000s, he served on Obama’s U.S. Senate campaign finance committee.

In 2005, Rezko’s wife bought a lot adjacent to a house Obama purchased for $625,000 and subsequently sold a part of it to Obama. The deal generated much controversy back in Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.”

If the “character issue” matters, it is not Donald Trump’s hair which should be the issue. The issue is Obama’s history and actions and friends. Get it Ann?

Donald Trump it seems is not going away and neither is the birth certificate issue nor the race-baiting “racist” charges. Mike Huckabee knows that when he makes his decision as to whether or not to run for president, Donald Trump will possibly be on the debate stage with him. Maybe Donald Trump will prove to be a boob, maybe not, but Huck thinks Trump will be on that stage:

“Silly fun from today’s Laura Ingraham show, the highlight of which is Huck’s recounting of a recent tete-a-tete between the two. Diplomatic, deferential, and an electoral asset on a national ticket: Clearly, the job profile of a vice presidential candidate screams “Donald Trump.” Although, in fairness, they do complement each other nicely. Deep south and NYC, blue collar and white collar, Christian and Mammon, governor and businessman. Huck’s only problem is figuring out how to convince Trump to be second on the ticket instead of at the top. Has the Donald ever been beta to another guy’s alpha? Maybe we should be thinking about Trump/Huckabee instead.

It looks like Haley Barbour’s a lock to get in, which means he’s also probably a lock for the Huckabee endorsement if Huck decides not to run. But I can’t help wondering… What if Barbour surprised everyone by staying out? Would Huck consider giving Trump a social-con seal of approval by endorsing him before Iowa — if only to boost DT’s numbers to the point where he might credibly threaten Romney in New Hampshire? Or would he target Mitt by backing Pawlenty, who’s a more serious threat for the nomination? Damn, this’ll be a fun campaign to blog.”

It won’t be fun when the “racist” charge is flung at every candidate who opposes Barack Obama. The race card cuts deep and Republicans/conservatives who think their candidate will be immune from that rapier cut are fooling themselves. Donald Trump understands what will happen even if Republicans/conservatives who oppose him don’t:

“The show’s host, Fred Dicker — who is also the New York Post’s state editor, read a recent poll showing Obama’s sky-high support among African-Americans.

Trump said the numbers were troubling and pointed to Hillary Clinton as proof that he probably won’t get the kind of support among African-Americans that he deserves.

“I tell it like it is,” Trump said. “[Y]ou’ll hear a political reporter go on and say it had nothing to do with race. But how come she had such a tiny piece of the vote? And you know, it’s a very sad thing.

I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks. But unfortunately, it seems that, you know, the numbers you cite are very, very frightening numbers.”

Dicker said, somewhat rhetorically, that votes should always be based on merit, not on race.

If that were the case, why did Hillary Clinton do so poorly?” Turmp asked.

The Race Card is being played, and it cuts everyone. Donald Trump has his own cards to play and soon we will see how the race card stacks up against the Trump card. At least Donald Trump, unlike others, understands what the race-baiters will do. We’re betting that the Trump card is Aces high.

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234 thoughts on “The Race Card Versus The Trump Card

  1. reposting from other thread as important.

    Talk about on the job training……………..muppet

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/04/president-barack-obama-exclusive-concedes-senate-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-political.html

    Obama Exclusive: Concedes Senate Vote Against Raising Debt Limit Was ‘Political’

    In my exclusive interview with President Barack Obama, the president acknowledged that Democrats are going to bear the “burden” of extending the national debt limit later this spring – and he explained for the first time that only when he became president did he understand why his 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt limit was wrong:

    George Stephanopoulos: You’ve got to extend the debt limit by May. And it seems like you made up the job– your job is a lot tougher because of your vote in the Senate against extending the debt limit…When did you realize that vote was a mistake?

    President Obama: I think that it’s important to understand the vantage point of a Senator versus the vantage point of a…President. When you’re a Senator, traditionally what’s happened is this is always a lousy vote. Nobody likes to be tagged as having increased the debt limit for the United States by a trillion dollars… As President, you start realizing, “You know what? We– we can’t play around with this stuff. This is the full faith in credit of the United States.” And so that was just a example of a new Senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country. And I’m the first one to acknowledge it.

    George Stephanopoulos: But now Senator McConnell is– is talking to a lot of the Republican Senators about doing the same thing. Saying, “Let’s just have 51 Democratic Senators.”

    President Obama: Right…My suspicion is that the burden is going to fall a lot on Democrats in the Senate to make this happen, but in both chambers, we’re going to need some votes from the other side.

    This was the president’s first broadcast interview since announcing his re-election last week and addressing America’s debt crisis yesterday. He was in an expansive and feisty mood:

    Taking on Rep. Paul Ryan’s contention that yesterday’s speech “poisoned the well” for upcoming budget talks and outlining what he thinks can be achieved right now.
    Saying what he would – and would not – do about rising gas prices.
    Giving his view of the choice voters will face in 2012, and his first take on a re-election pitch.
    And opening up with what he really thinks of Donald Trump riding the “birther” issue to the top of the GOP 2012 field.

    My exclusive interview with Obama will air tonight on “World News” and I’ll be releasing a full transcript right here on my blog at 6:30pm.

    –George Stephanopoulos

    VIDEO included at link, there you go, he just admitted, he votes for scoring political points and not out the best interests of the people.

    “And so that was just a example of a new Senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country. And I’m the first one to acknowledge it.”

    Seriously WTF, if they dont rip him a new asshole for that, i give up, its basically admitting he has qualms in doing what is not in the interest of the country.

  2. The Trump card TRUMPS the Race card!

    I have a gut feeling that the race card will bounce off the Donald and have no affect.

    Just an intuition. I think the race card only works against politicians dependent on feeding at the public trough, not a mega-millionaire like DT.

    What’s more, I think using the race card against DT could infuriate whites. Don’t know exactly why that’s in my head but FWIW that’s my prediction. Maybe it’s coz gazillions of white Americans have seen the fair way DT handles people of all color, many of whom have been black, on his show. I think the show might have given him a certain amount of immunity from the race card.

    AA’s may rise to the bait but I just don’t think anyone else will except for the libtard media. And AA’s won’t vote for a repub anyway, at least not while BO’s on the ticket.

    Trump TRUMPS race.

  3. Brilliant Admin.

    The Republicans should forget about protecting their favorite candidate, waiting to connect the dots, and cowering in the face of a shutdown. Those are defensive strategies, and defense seldom works against a withering attack. The thing they should be concentrating on right now is a growing perception in the country that they are too weak, and too incompetent to defend the middle class against the predations of racist Obama. The deal Boehner cut with Reid suggests that they are not up to the job, so they need an aggressive candidate who will terrorize the enemy. In the final analysis, the race card is all Obama has left, so it is only natural that someone like him who is utterly devoid of moral scruples will play it hot and heavy. The republicans need to study history, confront reality, and put forward a candidate who can win. Also, they must trumpet the words loud and clear that false accusations of racism are the last bastion of scoundrels. They must say it, and they must believe it.

  4. I bet there will be AA that will defend and stand by and even endorse Trump…he’s right he won’t get big numbers but I bet he has studied and learned dearly from what happened to hillary and bill…and he is preparing for the inevitable race card…

    naive is not something one would associate with Donald Trump…he would not go into this brutal of a battle without some shields…and armor…

  5. Trump also has good relations with Unions and the Dems are afraid of that (I read this somewhere but don’t have a link). Republicans are protesting too much instead of embracing him. But that may be because there is nothing in it for them. Should we watch for Republican shenanigans in their primary stealing it from Trump? We can bet one thing if that ever happens — he will cry foul from the top of the mountain (unlike Hillary) and let everyone know what happened.

  6. …and yes, I agree, everytime he mentions Hillary he is intentionally speaking to us…he knows the score…

  7. and yes, I agree, everytime he mentions Hillary he is intentionally speaking to us…he knows the score…
    —————-
    Correct: and we need to be an echo chamber for him on that, i.e. you called Hillary Clinton a racist too. By now, people with common sense have figured out your game. You were lying then and you are lying now, to protect a man who is destroying the country.

  8. Furious labor leaders slammed Obama, Reid at AFL meeting yesterday

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53223.html

    op labor leaders excoriated President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in a closed session of the AFL-CIO’s executive board meeting in Washington Wednesday, three labor sources said.

    Furious union presidents complained about budget cuts, a new trade agreement and what some view as their abandonment, even by their typically reliable allies among Senate Democrats.

    “Now, not only are we getting screwed by the Republicans but the Democrats are doing it too,” said one union official, characterizing the mood at a summit of labor leaders who are worried that Democrats seem unlikely to go to the mat for them as an election year approaches.

    Presidents of several unions and an AFL-CIO spokesman declined to repeat their private criticism to a reporter Tuesday, a sign that labor feels it must still try to maintain a relationship with the Democratic Party, even if it’s deeply troubled . With Republicans increasingly shifting from private antagonism toward open war with organized labor, unreliable Democratic allies are the only allies the movement has, and it remains unclear whether disappointments will dampen enthusiasm among union acvists and voters in the 2012 elections.

    A case in point: The AFL released yesterday a deliberately measured statement on the budget.

    “President Obama does not yet have the balance right between spending cuts and new revenue,” said President Richard Trumka calling for “significant new revenues.” Last week, the federation released a stronger, “deeply disappointed” statement on the free trade pact with Colombia.

    But even the semblance of a polite tone was missing at Wednesday’s board’s meeting, which a labor official described as “raw.”

    The President of the American Federation of State, Municipal, and County Employees, Gerard McEntee, railed against Obama’s budget. Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen lamented the White House’s support for the Colombia trade deal.

    “My understanding is that many presidents at the meeting expressed frustration and disappointment on lots of issues,” said a spokeswoman for Cohen, Candice Johnson who said Cohen wasn’t available to comment.

    A particularly bitter note was sounded by Harold Schaitberger, the president of the International Association of Firefighters, which had mounted a determined, and successful, drive to convince House Republicans to extend waivers to the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s Staffing For Adequate Fire & Emergency Response Grants (SAFER) grant program.

    The House voted in February, by a 267-159 margin, to extend a change to the program that allows fire departments to use the grants to avoid layoffs and to rehire laid off firefighters. The House had initially voted to eliminate the SAFER program and another, similar grant program, but union and local officials had successfully persuaded Republican leaders to back an amendment restoring the funding.

    The measure was then dropped in reconciliation – leaving the firefighters pointing their fingers at the Democratic-led Senate.

    Schaitberger declined to comment, but another official said he had written a letter to Reid discribing himself as “disappointed” at the Democrats’ cut to the program.

    A spokesman for Reid declined to comment on the dispute.

    ……………………………………………………….

    Thats what you get when you back snakes……

  9. moononpluto
    April 14th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    Furious labor leaders slammed Obama, Reid at AFL meeting yesterday

    **********************************************************************8

    …maybe the unions will start paying closer attention to T…he has been speaking to the upcoming trade agreements and how they are stacked against us…and how the chinese manipulate their currency and have put our businesses and workers out of business…he recently mentioned how he had friends in New England that owned businesses and manufactured goods and created jobs and now are gone…New England was once a great manufacturing center…

    in fact I personally know one that T did business with in RI (Mrs S) and it is now gone…

    …Donald can speak up for business and creating jobs in the USA…he is for the free market but not when we are getting cheated and ripped off…that resonates…

    …just like us paying for all these wars that make defense contractors rich while our country goes deeper and deeper in death and debt…

    T has worked with many unions, especially in NY…don’t laugh, NY could go for ‘The Donald’…as stated previously, O can kiss Florida good bye…bye, bye Florida electoral votes, bye, bye…

  10. Well the scandal just keeps flopping out…..well why does anyone who Obama hangs round with, get accused of this.

    Jackson Subject of Gay Harassment Complaint

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/jackson-push-bennett-lawsuit-119861339.html

    A former employee of the Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. at the Rainbow Push Coalition has filed a bombshell wrongful termination and discrimination complaint against the civil rights leader with the City of Chicago’s Commission on Human Rights.

    The complaint, filed sometime last year by Tommy R. Bennett, a regular on the Tom Joyner Radio show and member of Barack Obama’s LGBT Leadership Council, includes shocking details about Jackson’s behavior toward the openly gay staffer including a suggestion that the civil rights leader may have propositioned him

    Jackson has denied the allegations in a legal response that was filed in July 2010 and resurfaced when the Windy City Times published a story Tuesday.

    Bennett, 55, claims Jackson ridiculed him in front of other employees and required him to perform “humiliating tasks” like escorting women to Jackson’s various hotel rooms, cleaning up after alleged trysts and packing his clothing. It also includes an allegation that Jackson asked for oral sex, according to the claim. Jackson flatly denied each claim in his response.

    Jackson could not be reached for comment after multiple attempts by NBCChicago, but his legal representatives did respond to the complaint in July. Bennett also has not commented to NBCChicago.

    Bennett worked for the Rainbow PUSH Coalition for more than two years as the National Director of Community Affairs. The complaint states that Bennett endured a string of discriminatory treatment from multiple supervisors, but his protests were met with deaf ears.

    In 2008, Bennett assumed the duties of Jackson’s travel assistant.

    In that capacity, Bennett alleges to “clean his [hotel] room after sexual intercourse with women.”

    Bennett’s complaint requests back and front pay, compensation for emotional distress and punitive damages all to the tune of roughly $450,000. Bennett also wants an amendment to the civil rights organization’s non-discrimination policy to include sexual orientation and gender identity.

    Jackson, a former presidential candidate, has been married to his wife, Jacqueline Lavinia Brown, since 1962, but has had bouts with infidelity. One affair with a staffer resulted in the birth of a girl in 1999.

    He has five children with Brown, including Jesse Jackson, Jr., who represents Illinois’ 2nd District in the United States House of Representatives.

  11. This i can get on board with easily and look not one Dem sponsor, surprise surprise…

    Senators Seek Term Limits for Members of Congress

    Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) introduced today an “amendment to the United States Constitution that would apply term limits to all members of Congress,” according to a press release.

    The legislation, S.J. Res. 11, would limit U.S. Representatives to three terms and U.S. Senators to two terms in office. As an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it would require a two-thirds majority vote approval in the House and Senate and must be ratified by three-fourths of the states.

    Sponsors of this measure:

    Cosponsors include Senators Kelly Ayotte (R-New Hampshire), Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma), John Ensign (R-Nevada), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), Marco Rubio (R-Florida), Pat Toomey (R-Pennsylvania), and David Vitter (R-Louisiana).

  12. Great post Admin, and I hope to God Barry doesn’t have to show his circumcision papers. 😉

    I can’t wait for someone to try and slander the Trumpster with the Race Card. He will not be PC in return.

  13. One must always remember, Obama’s Modus Operandi is to win the election during the primary season. He destroys the strongest candidate before the General Election. There he goes again. This is same strategy GWBush used to get John Kerry and get rid of Howard Dean the Obama team smear is out in force to smear Trump. Trump is hitting a home run with the Birth Certificate attack. And the Obama buffoon goons are yelling foul. I just hope Trump does not fall for the “don’t throw me into that there briar patch routine” that Obama and the goon squad are dreaming up. It is going to down and dirty. The journolisters are in full force to get Trump and get a 3rd stringer for Obama to run against.

  14. The Race Card Versus The Trump Card

    The Obama team will use the Race Card whether it’s true or not- The labeling of the Race Card is to give AA’s an “excuse” to stir up anger and prejudice to vote against the opposition. Any AAs siding with the white candidate will earn the label “Uncle Tom” as they did when it was used against Bill and Hillary.

    The combacks are many, including using Bill and Hillary as you suggested.

    “Hows that workin’ for ya?” is one I can think of off the top of my head-

    Obama has treated his own kind to many broken promises. He hasn’t paid their mortgages, their car payments, hasn’t made them CEO’s of Big business as he promised the CBC at their 08’meeting.

  15. alibe
    April 14th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    One must always remember, Obama’s Modus Operandi is to win the election during the primary season. He destroys the strongest candidate before the General Election.
    ___________________

    Yep,exactly right- Although, Trumps affairs have been public knowledge- I think he’s pretty safe in that respect. That avenue is one the Chicago mafia is very familiar with… as far as I can see for now, the cards they are holding are quite limited.

  16. “as far as I can see for now, the cards they are holding are quite limited.”
    ______________________

    The Race Card cannot TOP the “Birth Certificate” fiasco! heheheh!

  17. Near fell off the chair laughing…………….

    Pres Obama said of his bid for a 2nd term: “I think I’m equipped to help us finish the job.”

    The worst thing is, he thinks he does.

  18. admin

    another superb article. Trump goes right after the race issue

    this paragraph is such a superb interview by Trump:
    ““I tell it like it is,” Trump said. “[Y]ou’ll hear a political reporter go on and say it had nothing to do with race. But how come she had such a tiny piece of the vote? And you know, it’s a very sad thing.

    “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks. But unfortunately, it seems that, you know, the numbers you cite are very, very frightening numbers.”

    Dicker said, somewhat rhetorically, that votes should always be based on merit, not on race.

    “If that were the case, why did Hillary Clinton do so poorly?” Turmp asked.

    What will the intervier say next? not sure why Hillary did poorly, then Trump will say “Well it didn’t help when Obama called Hillary a racist”

    a natural turn of conversation.

    As for th ABC interview, the fact that Waffles even has to bring up that he was born in Hawaii means its a MAJOR problem, because what will Trump counter? Well if Obama says he was born in HI, why the hell won’t he release his long form birth certificate and spend 2 million a year hiding it. (Notice the interviewer idiot didn’t ask him why he is spending 2 million a year hiding the BC??)

  19. “I think I’m equipped to help us finish the job.”
    _________________

    He’s equipped alright, to finish off the country as we knew it. Reason initself to dump the “foreigner’!

  20. Why Obama is scared of Donald Trump

    * April 11th, 2011 11:18 pm ET

    D.K. Jamaal

    Obama is scared of Donald Trump because Trump is a loudmouth with nothing to lose.

    That makes him very dangerous to the President’s re-election prospects – and very valuable to the President’s opposition.

    Obama’s Gallup approval rating is already under 47 percent – and no President has ever won re-election with numbers as low as that in the Gallup survey.

    Trump’s relentless hammering of Obama – particularly on the birth certificate issue – serves to raise doubts in the back of the heads of every voter whether the White House likes it or not.

    Trump is coarse, rudely impolite and confrontational, and Trump thus has the Obama spin machine very, very nervous because he is delegitimizing Obama in the eyes of the swing state independents Obama needs to win.

    The White House cannot shut Trump up. And both camps know it.

    Trump will keep punching and punching and punching, making Obama less and less likely to keep his job.

    Trump’s lack of polish means that he does not know – and does not care – that so-called mainstream politicians cannot touch third rail subjects like why no living person besides the heads of the Hawaii health department have seen the existing original copy of the President’s birth certificate.

    Until that documented is presented for public eyes, voters will continue to wonder.

    The President’s refusal to simply ante up has descended into ‘methinks the man doth protest too much’ category in the minds of most.

    The Donald, having seen this opening, has credibility he probably does not deserve simply because he is the highest-profile person yet to wonder aloud what most Americans are thinking.

    http://www.examiner.com/post-partisan-in-national/why-obama-is-scared-of-donald-trump

  21. I never voted for a Rethug.

    For the first time

    (If Hillary is not a candidate in 2012,) I shall vote for Trump if he is a candidate Republican or Independent.

  22. They kept mentioning the birther thing in that ABC interview, which means they are scared of it.

  23. moononpluto
    April 14th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    moon notice little georgie didn’t ask him why he is spending 2 million a year hiding his BC, as Trump claims, why he hasn’t released his long form BC (which I am 100% sure Trump has of someone who was born in Hawaii in 1961). Little georgie didn’t ask either of these simple questions.

    The fact that brought this up and didn’t resolve it gives Trump tremendous ammo in the next round of interviews Trump does.

  24. Trump is the ultimate political outsider, thats what scares them. He’s not one of them and the public at the moment like candidates who are NOT one of them.

    Trump could actually steal Obama’s theme and run on CHANGE in 2012 and actually mean it.

  25. Harry Reid : “Trump’s a nice man but not presidential candidate”

    and Trump will be answering back: “well you know, Harry is nice man, but he’s not much of a senator or a majority leader in the senate, so his judgement about presidential caliber is pretty much irrelevant”

    these things just write themselves.

  26. moononpluto
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Trump could actually steal Obama’s theme and run on CHANGE in 2012 and actually mean it.
    ________________________

    Love it!

  27. “I think I’m equipped to help us finish the job.”
    ———–

    He thinks, thinks?! and does not know?

    Well, I want to say it is irrelevant if you think you’re equipped. It is whether we the voters think that you’re equipped but after 08 primary, I am hesitant to make that assertion.

  28. #
    blowme0bama
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Waiting for fake long form BC to show up in 3 … 2 … 1

    —————–

    I think it will and Repubs will help in forging it.

  29. Trump is coarse, rudely impolite and confrontational, and Trump thus has the Obama spin machine very, very nervous because he is delegitimizing Obama in the eyes of the swing state independents Obama needs to win.**
    *******

    Rude my ass, he’s brutally honest and that my dear friends is a breath of fresh air and loooog time waiting!

  30. blowme0bama
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    Waiting for fake long form BC to show up in 3 … 2 … 1

    LOL, you know what? with all the resources Trump has, I’ll bet anything Trump already has sample BCs from people who actually were born in HI in 1961. Waffles will present his fake long form BC, Trump will slam him saying, what the hell kind of nonsense is this fake BC?

    I cannot believe Trump is doing all this without some sort of a plan and more importantly the proof.

  31. Tim, more from Harry Reid:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/04/14/harry-reid-embarrassed-by-his-stance-on-debt/

    Harry Reid is ashamed of himself. Why? For helping usher through record deficits? No, for ever arguing against them:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today told ABC News that he feels “embarrassed” that four years ago he argued against raising the country’s debt limit.

    Why is it right to increase our nation’s dependence on foreign creditors?” Reid said on March 16, 2006. “Democrats won’t be making an argument to support this legalization, which will weaken our country.”

    In an interview today on ABC’s “Top Line” with Jonathan Karl and Amy Walter, Reid said those comments were a mistake

    .

  32. D.K. Jamaal makes excellent points. If Trump does not stop on his own, there is going to be very little that can be done to stop him (although the race-bait and threats of boycotts are attempts to do so).

    The Jesse Jackson sexual harassment story which broke today (let’s remember “innocent until proven guilty”) will have tongues wagging because as the National Enquirer advertises, “E[I]nquiring minds want to know.” D.K. Jamaal says that Donald Trump is raising an issue that at first sounds odd but then, after repeated listenings, “inquiring minds want to know.”

    While for years, and especially after 2008 many people thought an political independent or an political outsider could actually win – little did anyone suspect that it would be Donald Trump. We suspected Bloomberg but he has imploded after his ill-advised overturning of the law in order to run for a third term. The third term has been a disaster.

    Enter Trump. Enter trouble for the Chicago mob.

  33. I heard that Trump will be on Hannity’s show and according to Hannity, he’s “uping the ante”.

    I’m getting my popcorn ready 🙂

  34. I am sure the Fraud and his gang are working hard on producing a fake BC and of course they can count on SC to kill any challenges to fake Bc

  35. all that’s needed now is for some higher up retired military to speak to Trump about their doubts and how this whole issue needs to be resolved.

    Trump will never reveal any names, etc, but it will given him more ammo for his next round of interviews, example “well, I’ve had some retired military express the same doubts to me, of course they are too afraid to say anything in the public, how sad that President Waffles will not resolve this immediately and instead spends 2 million a year hiding it”

  36. Compelling analysis by retired ICE officer that BO has a fake selective service registration. Among other things:

    1. The forger screwed up and utilized a 2008 # on one portion of the form
    2. Post stamped with USPO which was discontinued in 1970 though it purports to be mailed in 1980.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions

  37. Obama-lovin’ Lefties have resorted to using slurs: “tea baggers”, “birthers”.

    Yet they demand to be respected as high minded idealists who never put anyone down.

    Which is it, you “ObamaDickSuckers”?

  38. #
    tim
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Harry Reid : “Trump’s a nice man but not presidential candidate”

    and Trump will be answering back: “well you know, Harry is nice man, but he’s not much of a senator or a majority leader in the senate, so his judgement about presidential caliber is pretty much irrelevant”

    these things just write themselves.
    &&&&&&&&

    Good one!

  39. moononpluto
    April 14th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Your link had this Obumma quote:

    “But [it] creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii.”

    “MOST PEOPLE”…

    If “most people” were 98%, Obama would be in good shape. Truth is that at this point, “most people” is about 60% or 70%. 30-40% roughly don’t think he’s addressed his birth certificate issue thoroughly enough yet…

    And here come the states, AZ, OK, whose next???

    Ha ha, fucker, produce a valid birth certificate, or try winning without being on the ballot in several states.

    Imagine election night, CNN reporting: “Well, before a single vote has been counted, Obama is already behind by 86 electoral votes, having been left off the ballot in 12 states due to his unwillingness, or inability, to produce valid proof of eligibility. He’s pretty much got to run the table, and that includes a lot of red states…”

  40. put on hannity and listen to T go…he is a like a boxer…and someone who covers all the bases before anyone things of the direction to go…

    i love how he just said ‘i don’t care what the republican thing is, i will protect the seniors’…this guy is so smart…

    …he is big on Reagan…I am sure given the next prez he admires is Bill…probably did not want hannity’s head to explode…small doses…

  41. what I like about Trump, simple speech, to the point, blunt.

    I know where I agree, where I disagree. I would donate to him, vote for him and campaign for him. I am liking what I’m hearing so far on this Hannity interview, unlike ken doll Romney.

    I agree with Trump, he’s the one who Waffle is most afraid of.
    I didn’t know he donated money to build a park in Israel, and they named it after him.

  42. S
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    He has praised Hillary in 2008, he was a Hillary supported before switching to Mccain/Palin. The only one he really seems to bash, and bash hard is Waffles.

  43. I’m sure most of the Big Pinkers just listened to Trump on Hannity.
    The more this man talks, the more I find I agree with him.

    He thinks the Rethugs have gone out too far attacking Medicare and seniors. The thinks seniors are the life blood of this country and need to be protected.

    He thinks Jews that support Obama are nuts…

  44. S

    …he is big on Reagan…I am sure given the next prez he admires is Bill…probably did not want hannity’s head to explode…small doses…

    ————
    I bettcha Hannity edited out his admiration of the Big Dawg. I heard Trump praise Bill with the same question, just a couple of days ago.

    Hannity thinks Raygun walked on water so he is only going to want to hear that.

  45. meant…anyone thinks of the direction to go…

    in re: to reagan…hannity asked him which prez he admired…he only mentioned Reagan then then switched subjects…however if asked i believe he will speak positively about Bill Clinton…

    T seems one or two or three steps ahead of the game…part two tomorrow

    conversely, when switching channels after AI, i caught the tale end of Lawrence O’Donnell…what a bitter, angry, sarcastic, nasty person he is…so condescending and so full of himself…i don’t watch msnbc but from switching channels i can see that the new talking points are to end Hardball and the O’Donnell shows with a take down and dripping insulting shot at Trump…i can’t bare to watch Shultz but i am willing to bet he is in the same mix that got their orders in the morning meeting to start demolishing Trump…

    Trump has replaced Sarah Palin for msnbc…they are like pitbulls…and so predicably boring…give it a rest…

  46. that is interesting Shadowfax…I have not heard him actually talk about Bill on any of these recent interview…good for him…bravo!

  47. S
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Trump has replaced Sarah Palin for msnbc…they are like pitbulls…and so predicably boring…give it a rest…
    &&&&&&&&&

    Does anyone watch MSNBC anymore?

    Aren’t their ratings below “The Bass Fishing Network”?

  48. rgb44hrc
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    moononpluto
    April 14th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Your link had this Obumma quote:

    “But [it] creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii.”

    “MOST PEOPLE”…

    If “most people” were 98%, Obama would be in good shape. Truth is that at this point, “most people” is about 60% or 70%. 30-40% roughly don’t think he’s addressed his birth certificate issue thoroughly enough yet…

    And here come the states, AZ, OK, whose next???

    Ha ha, fucker, produce a valid birth certificate, or try winning without being on the ballot in several states.

    Imagine election night, CNN reporting: “Well, before a single vote has been counted, Obama is already behind by 86 electoral votes, having been left off the ballot in 12 states due to his unwillingness, or inability, to produce valid proof of eligibility. He’s pretty much got to run the table, and that includes a lot of red states…”
    _______________________________

    Boy, that puts Dims and Obama in a tough position, doesn’t it?

    What do the Dims do? (1) Run a guy who can meet the eligibility requirements, meaning not O; (2) file lawsuit, follow through to supreme court challenging states for REQUIRING A LONG FORM BIRTH CERT? rather than just telling Barry to “cough one up”?; (3) produce a fake ass BC?; (4) Not run Barry in those states?

    They’re going to have to do one of these.

    Any one of these is going to look bad.

  49. S

    I have seen so many interviews with Trump I can’t remember where he talked about Bill, either O’Riley or Greta a few days ago.

  50. BTW, I will admit to have been a regular Olbermann/MSNBC viewer back when Bush was president, but by 2007 I could smell the Obamaphilia, and just couldn’t stand KeithO anymore. They are all putrid scum.

  51. you know what I was wondering today…especially after that post I think Moonpluto posted about Jesse Jackson and his latest scandal…

    how come we never, ever, ever hear about any old girlfriends of O? i know there was a little noise about a Vera during the primaries and that got shut down quickly…but how about old girlfriends, pre MO? are we too believe there was no one but MO in his whole life?

    this is another wierd thing about O and the mystery of O…very wierd…there is a whole lifetime of O that no ones knows anything about and no friends seem to come forward to validate…only so called political friends, like Deval Patrick…but no old buddies or old girlfriends ever surface…

    Bill and Hillary have friends from when they were five years old for goodness sakes…

  52. what a bunch of crap.

    some Hillary dem person on Hannity said “People accept Obama to be born in Hawaii is because he is president” NO DUMBA$$, its the other way!
    People first want to make sure any candidate is qualified -i.e. born in the US — before they will accept them as president.

    What makes me sick is all these Hillary paid operators from 2008 act like nothing happened to her supporters, this is beyond Hillary at this point, it is about a fraudulent corrupt political party that annoints its candidates, steals people’s votes and then acts like oh, no big deal.

  53. tim
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    I heard that Trump will be on Hannity’s show
    __________________

    tim- is that tonight?

    _____________________

    democrat1
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    who is SC?

  54. rgb44hrc…i left msnbc also by the end of the democratic primaries because i could not take them anymore…however if i am flipping channels and i get the chance i will try to catch the ‘flavor/talking points/direction, etc’ of the final last words…because there is where you get the whole theme of where the show is slanted…just to stay tuned with what brainwashing and propganda they are dumping on the public…

    ALERT: ******** Hannity just admitted he was wrong, he should never have started the ‘Stop Hillary Express’ OMG…even Hannity realizes and is publically admitting the mess he helped create…

  55. ADMIN…if you can edit and get that clip of Hannity admitting he was wrong and should never have started the “Stop Hillary Express’ it should be posted somewhere front and center…

  56. Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Mrs Smith – part two is tomorrow at 9 pm… Hannity repeats tonight at midnight so you can still catch part one later tonight

  57. Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    democrat1
    April 14th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    who is SC?
    _________________________________________

    SC= Supreme Court of the United States

  58. S
    April 14th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    ADMIN…if you can edit and get that clip of Hannity admitting he was wrong and should never have started the “Stop Hillary Express’ it should be posted somewhere front and center…

    ———-
    I have this show saved on Tivo so I can play it again Sam.

    Darn, he says how Hillary’s people kept emailing him…no Shit Sherlock, I must have sent him over 500 emails of stuff that we found out, and I know lots of PUMAs that did the same.

  59. and now preaching Huckabes will come on Greta’s show, act all above the fray and tell people how Trump is wrong.

    I am so sick and tired of taking other people’s words for things, what kind of nonsense is this?? the press is useless.

  60. George Stephanopoulos / George’s Bottom Line:
    Obama Exclusive: I Was Born in Hawaii and I Don’t ‘Have Horns’
    —————

    Headline see on memeorandum.. No Horns?! May be the head scar explains that.

  61. democrat1
    April 14th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    _______________

    According to my research- it is near impossible for Obama to produce the Long Form Birth Certificate. The information contained on the long form is in such specific detail, it would be almost impossible for it to survive cross examination and be considered authentic and valid.

  62. Even Greta — who I normally like — is now pissing me off, the issue is not where waffles is a US citizen, its whether he was a natural born citizen. Huckabee is now sort of taunting “maybe Trump wants to see my Arkansas BC”
    Note to Huckabee: you can actually produce that document within 24 hours, Waffles cannot.

    Seriously, frankly, I do not think I will vote for any of these spineless, gutless fools. Trump I will vote for, the rest, cowards, all of them cowards, I see no point in voting for any of these fools. Trump gives me some hope, I am so disgusted with the rest of them.

  63. S
    April 14th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    …and yes, I agree, everytime he mentions Hillary he is intentionally speaking to us…he knows the score…
    *********************
    And he’s sticking the knife into the press’s back for allowing the race card to be played in 2008 and never calling the campaign or the black leaders on it.

  64. “According to my research- it is near impossible for Obama to produce the Long Form Birth Certificate. The information contained on the long form is in such specific detail, it would be almost impossible for it to survive cross examination and be considered authentic and valid.”
    ____________________

    I think Obama’s legal team is well aware of Obama’s predicament and why they have chosen the current path of defense for him which is obfustication. Otherwise, if a Long Form appears out of no where, they would be complicit in aiding and abetting the Fraud perpetrated on the American people and be as guilty, as Obama is… by omission.

  65. “So I want to thank you, ladies, for holding it together, because you all look great. You all look pretty doggone good. And we’re just so proud of you all. Proud of you all, proud of you for holding it together while your man is doing something hard. (Laughter.) And there’s nothing like having a man that’s doing something hard, right, Jill? (Laughter.) Sheesh. (Laughter and applause.)”

    MO at that Military baby shower from the link before.

  66. Who was it here…Dija?(sp) or someone – had a real inside track to Hannity back then. Almost or nearly or really the “personal email” and kept sending stuff (as did we all) to him about what was happening and how DESTRUCTIVE OBAMA WOULD BE TO THE COUNTRY. Hannity, like all these frootloops just had CDS SO BADLY they couldn’t see the forest for the trees. Damn them all to hell. YEs, admitting the errors of your ways is a good thing, but like Obama and the original debt ceiling vote – it was all political. The Country be damned!

    Now the eternally CDS Deranged Beck was harping today on that letter in HuffnPuff about Hillary needing to save us from the “centerist” Obama – says she made a deal to come in and save the Party after we could no longer stand O – and then SHE (that evil woman!) would move us off the cliff to our national destruction.

    I wanted so much to be able to tell him to come read Big Pink. That almost NO ONE HERE believed that tripe on HuffNPuff – and IMO – that letter was a plant BY the O Team to make HRC looks crazier than Barry to set up yet another straw dog for him to fight. HE being the “sane one” of the two.

    Clear the field in the Primaries? Including HRC? You betcha! Go ask Alice (Palmer)

  67. “and IMO – that letter was a plant BY the O Team to make HRC looks crazier than Barry to set up yet another straw dog for him to fight. HE being the “sane one” of the two.”

    and the WH KNOWS Beck, et al, will jump all over anything Hillary Hate. It was just WAY too convenient. And since when did HuffPoop start publishing “Pro_Hillary” stuff? Hmmmm? Smells like a Chicago Fish.

    Anyway, food for thought. I have been working my tail off and have to hit the hay.

    Later all!

  68. Everywhere I went today everyone was talking about the Donald, bus stop, buses, a bar a restaurant. Family friends
    Poll that cnn
    He has so blindsided them all. I am elated

  69. When Whoopi accuses Donald Trump of racism after clearing Mel Gibson’s name, you can be sure the race card has lost it’s effectiveness. Unfortunately, after having been so successfully exploited by the DNC for the last few years, the black community is going to be the last to figure this out.

    Personally, I appreciated how The Donald ended up comforting and reassuring Whoopi that he “loves” her, it was effective. I hope he holds on because I think he can trump the race card and it’s high time someone did.

  70. henry – one more thing. Me too. Dems, reps, Indies – Trump had it going on.

    He’s on Limbaugh tomorrow – hour 2.

  71. BTW
    When sending all this info to Hannity, I also sent it to Greta, O’Riley, Drudge, CNN, ABC, NBC…………everyone on the same email so they could see everyone had it, and no one talked about it.

    Lynette Long’s caucus fraud website, with all the data, the whole shootin’ match…..

    ………..crickets.

  72. Lynette Long’s caucus fraud website, with all the data, the whole shootin’ match…..

    ………..crickets.

    ________________

    Yep!

    THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY

  73. Norma
    Egads, Limbaugh? Don’t know if I can go that far

    By the way I asked my die hard union cousin why the unions weren’t going all lady gaga over Trump.

    To her credit she responded that she likes the guy but sadly the union itself was stuck in a “Bad Romance”

  74. Ya know what is really sad when you think about it…

    The last time Hillary said, “No! No! No!” She wouldn’t run or be in politics again………..

    On some level we all believed her, or we wouldn’t even care about Trump possibly running right now.

    That is sad.

  75. Norma Desmond
    April 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Obama tonight

    “and that we want a country that is reflective of generosity and compassion; and that we want every kid to be able to be a governor or the head of a big company, regardless of where they were born,”
    __________________

    This is the argument Team Obama wants to bring before the SCOTUS-
    Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hinderance to children seeking the American Dream…

    imo- The Founders were under the same pressure. The 1700s saw transient people from all over world in the US at that time… in the 21st century, volume of immigrants and following a dream is not reason enough to change the Constitution. and the Founders still held to their ideal maintaining NBC as a candidate’s requirement for the US presidency. Loyalty to the homeland their primary concern.

  76. Shadowfax
    What is sad is that even if Hillary wanted to she could never do what Trump is. Male or female I can think of no one else who could pull this off. Huckleberry and mittens must be losing it. Bet they called the rnc and old on him.
    I Love me some Donald

  77. I’d like to hear T come back when the subject turns to racism or his critics attempting to attack him with the race card…i’d like to hear T come back and say

    “Is there anyone at all that is a critic of O that is not considered a racist? or are you just a racist by default if you do not support O?”

    …and then “don’t you think it is racist to support O just because he is black…is there any such thing as reverse racism?” can a black person be a racist or is it just ‘the whites’ that are racist?

    enough already…the president is a divider…he has set race relations backwards and split and divided people by color…we have moved on…

  78. OT

    The radiation problems in Japan are growing- Reactor 4 is in big trouble now-
    Their fish and veggies are contaminated… I don’t have any idea how they are ever going to contain and stop the radiation from contaminating the ocean. Things have to be pretty bad if they are moving the capital from Tokyo elsewhere. Hillary would do well to postpone her trip scheduled on the 18th to another time…

    Hawaii, is not that far away from Japan-
    __________________________

    Japan Mulls to Move Capital over Disaster Worries

    As powerful earthquakes continue to jolt Japan and radiation levels near Tokyo are rising, the Asian country’s authorities are considering moving the capital to another city.

    The most probable location for a new capital are Osaka and Nagoya, according to ITAR-TASS. Both cities are located near international airports.

    The main conditions the new capital has to provide are a population over 50 000 and a sufficient capacity to accommodate the parliament, the government, the Emperor’s residency and the foreign diplomatic missions.

    According to experts, should a 7.2 magnitude earthquake shake Tokyo, the casualties will be around 11 000, some 210 000 will be injured and the material damage will be worth about USD 1 B. (damage estimates seems low or miscalculated like everything else the gov of Japan releases to the press.)

    http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=127294

  79. just wait for the photo opps that come out of this event Sat…T will demolish the “O myth to smithereens’

    dailycaller.com/2011/04/14/trumpwest-2012-allen-west-not-closed-to-idea-of-being-donald-trumps-vp/

    Florida Congressman and Tea Party favorite Allen West isn’t opposed to the idea of joining possible presidential contender Donald Trump, West told The Daily Caller Thursday.

    When pressed repeatedly if he would rule out the possibility of running with Trump, the Republican House freshman did not say that the idea was off the table.

    “Who knows what’s going to happen,” West said when asked if he’d accept a veep invitation from Trump. “If the people think that I have an ability to continue my service of my country in a different capacity, first of all we gotta talk to God, we gotta talk to my family, we gotta talk to the constituents.”

    Trump and West will speak at the same Tea Party rally in Boca Raton, Florida this Saturday.

    While Trump’s early polling numbers are strong, the Apprentice television host’s rumored run against President Barack Obama has been criticized as a publicity stunt. But Trump continues to travel around the country to tell people that he is deeply considering making a run.

    West was careful to say that his statements were not an endorsement of Trump, or any of the other possible contenders.

    “I’m not endorsing anybody,” he said.

  80. Yes, Henry…Hillary can’t even run on all her hard work and loyalty.
    Obamacrats and Rethugs knew the Clinton brain power would put them all to shame, so they lied, cheated and stole everything they could from them, and when that wasn’t enough, they stole our votes and even with that, she won the popular vote, they took away her earned delegates and crucified her on the convention floor in front of 18 million of her supporters.

    Until those evil people are purged along with the liars in the media, Hillary will not waste her time being their pinata.

  81. Also from where I loiter it seems the gay card has reached its expiration date. No one I know is surprised or offended by The Donald’s stance on gay marriage. Trust me the rich gays have a long memory and give no credit to bambi for ending don’t ask don’t tell. Spin away dnc but for the 6/7 figure(income not dress size) gay man cspan can be scarier than chrystal meth

  82. Shadowfax
    Three years we have been talking, screaming, emailing, posting, protesting, boycotting. Thought we got no where, but it seems someone heard the collective cry from the wilderness. It may be easier for the lame stream media to take down a woman but save Donald I don’t think there exists a man in politics who could have handled 1/10th of what HRC and SP have

  83. tim
    April 14th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    ….some Hillary dem person on Hannity said “People accept Obama to be born in Hawaii is because he is president” NO DUMBA$$, its the other way!

    A couple of weeks ago on The View, Whoopi used the same backwards logic. She said that he was President, that proves he must be American. Are people this stupid, or do they think that WE are that stupid????

    What makes me sick is all these Hillary paid operators from 2008 act like nothing happened to her supporters

    Yes, unfortunately, a lot of Hillary paid people jumped on the gravy train (so they thought). I think in this instance you may be talking about Mo Ellerbe. He’s black. It’s a pretty fargone conclusion for whom he voted, and perhaps for whom he even planned to vote while still working for Hillary.

  84. Shadowfax
    April 14th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
    Yes, Henry…Hillary can’t even run on all her hard work and loyalty.
    Obamacrats and Rethugs knew the Clinton brain power would put them all to shame, so they lied, cheated and stole everything they could from them, and when that wasn’t enough, they stole our votes and even with that, she won the popular vote, they took away her earned delegates and crucified her on the convention floor in front of 18 million of her supporters.

    ***********************************8

    very well said…so true…

  85. He thinks the Rethugs have gone out too far attacking Medicare and seniors. The thinks seniors are the life blood of this country and need to be protected.

    He thinks Jews that support Obama are nuts…

    **************

    He speaks my language, always the Repugs read the tea leaves wrong…

  86. I’m dreaming again…

    What if Trump runs and wins…and pulls Hillary into his cabinet, like his VP and actually lets her work on straightening out the hell care bill and SS, etc.
    Then he walks away after his first term, letting her run for Pres in 2016.

  87. Trump and West..Really? Not feeling it, too much inexperience. Trump will need a savey person, I like West but this is not his time.

  88. Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    I know, it is exactly as I feared and the SC will probably go along with it and the populist outside of a few, Tea Party, Hillary supporters, will not care. This is what dumbing down a society with no walls does to it. Why protect the boarder when it’s been the plan all along.

  89. S
    April 14th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
    I’d like to hear T come back when the subject turns to racism or his critics attempting to attack him with the race card…i’d like to hear T come back and say

    “Is there anyone at all that is a critic of O that is not considered a racist? or are you just a racist by default if you do not support O?”

    …and then “don’t you think it is racist to support O just because he is black…is there any such thing as reverse racism?” can a black person be a racist or is it just ‘the whites’ that are racist?

    YES!

    I’d also like to see him compare it to slander, saying something like, “if you say something about someone and it’s true, it’s not slander. This is no different! If it’s true it’s not racist!!!”

    He could also collect all the things that Bill and Hillary (and others) have said that led to being called racist – and show how they said truthful statements, give a definition of racism, and tell the interviewer to come up with an excuse!

    I’d ALSO like him to point out how all the black “leaders” need to forment a sense of victimization in their followers – or else, there goes their income stream. Granted, we’re all in a bad economy right now, but so many blacks have moved into middle class. Do the black “leaders” ever talk about that? NO! It would be like a coach or parent who ONLY talks about your problems, and NEVER praises what you’ve done, or encourages further efforts of your own. The black “leaders”, IMO, are solely in it for themselves. No matter how good life continues to get for blacks as a group, they’ll still be out there trying to make them feel they are owed something from long dead people.

    True leaders raise the followers up, they encourage them to engage, they praise them for their upward momentum (in social class, or in number of sport points made, or getting better grades in school, etc.)

    Ego-driven leaders have their own agenda. To have people beholdened to them, they instigate themes of us vs. them, get them feeling victimized, angry, and ready to vote.

    So a true leader helps a person develop their own abilities, and the benefit is to the follower. The’ve been taught to fish. They’ve been taught to have faith in their own talents and to enjoy healthy competition.

    An ego-driven leader is only helping himself. He doesn’t encourage his followers to work hard to overcome any barriers – no, he encourages them to get OCD over the barriers and never move on in life. They’re definitely NOT taught to fish. They’re supposed to remain the loyal foot soldiers to the entitlement/retribution/divisive meme. It’s so sad – they can’t learn to lead a free life, because they are taught they must remain locked in that tiny box. Except I understand the qualifications for getting $50 thousand for not being able to farm has been SO watered down, that even the ones living in the little boxes can still get that taxpayer money.

  90. Henry – It may be easier for the lame stream media to take down a woman but save Donald I don’t think there exists a man in politics who could have handled 1/10th of what HRC and SP have

    Henry, I think that a big variable here is not so much the gender issue, but the party issue. Trump isn’t a part of a party, he’s not in any office – just as Sarah Palin isn’t – he can say whatever he wants. Plus, he’s apparently mega rich, so he doesn’t have to bow down to sponsors. He can be really free. Hillary is part of a party, and currently working for it, so she can’t speak out. It will be interesting to see if she challenges, and if she does not, will she campaign for someone? I wonder how close on some issues the two may be….

  91. Shadowfax
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Almost, Shadow-

    Here is how I think it will happen- Trump is the R nominee.

    The Dems can’t nominate O because he is polling in the low 30’s.

    The Dems draft Hillary, she accepts. Trump says, he doesn’t want to run against Hillary, he withdraws from the race.

  92. Shadowfax
    I love playing pretend
    Casting for bewitched was always my fave. Jim Carrey playing Darwood and then with no explanation Jimmy Fallon takes over. Ellen plays Doctor Bombay. Bewitched so rife with characters that a bunch of kids born 20 yrs after the show ended still wait tables and play cast bewitched during their sow time.

    Might be funny to do the same thing with our elected offiils

  93. lorac
    Huh?
    I don’t get what you are saying?
    I am only saying I can think of no one who can handle the biased press like Trump.

    Female/male he is giving bambi an over due wake up

  94. Norma: This is the argument Team Obama wants to bring before the SCOTUS-
    Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hinderance to children seeking the American Dream…

    What a bunch of baloney. If they move here and become citizens, then subsequent children can later run for the presidency. Not so complicated at all.

    But,IMO, we have to stop all of this illegal immigration. We already lead the rest of the world in numbers of LEGAL immigrants we allow in. There’s absolutely no legitimate reason to billions in illegally.

    I met another 80 year old today. HE doesn’t speak English, family doesn’t speak English. But, oh looky!, he has Medicare. You know what the pieces mean? His mother crossed the border 80 years ago, dropped him and he got citizenship, then they went back home to Mexico for the rest of their Spanish speaking lives. So they’re drawing off Medicare all this time, without having paid any money into the system. They are intentionally taking our hard-earned taxpayer money. One of many reasons that our country is going broke, and California in particular.

  95. Trump is a smart guy. He can drag out the BC/eligibility question by revealing small hints and details as to what his PIs have found to tantalize anyone who has doubts about Obama’s background. This will also keep Big Media and Obama’s drones hyperventilating until they pass out, giving Trump the kind of publicity that millions in campaign funds can’t buy.

  96. I may have misunderstood – I thought a part of your argument was that Hillary couldn’t make those arguments against Trump. And I’m certain she could – if she didn’t have the problem of being in the administration, and of being in the same party as the Fraud. So I was focusing on the difference not being between genders, but between how much latitude to speak their own voices they have in their respective jobs.

    It seems unlikely that Hillary will challenge (but I’m still holding my breath!), but if she does, I’m wondering if this second time around it will be no holds barred – since the “standard, appropriate, kids’ gloves approach” to a person in your own party” didn’t work last time. And just as I hope Trump is looking ahead for pitfalls, I sure hope Hillary also is. Maybe she should start doing the Obama “breathe in, breathe out, give a speech”, and each time list everything she has done for blacks over all the years.

    Anyway. I’m feeling pretty good that a lot of good stuff is FINALLY being said! I hope he gets more specific about what happened in the election – he said today something about, Hillary lost so badly – well, HELL no! He needs to address the caucus fraud, May 31, 2008 stealing of the delegates, and find out whatever they did to her to not allow her to stand at the convention.

  97. Tonight Hannity referred to his interview with Trump as “exclusive”. That kind of threw me. Trump has been on a hundred shows lately – but the last guy to get him can call it “exclusive”???

    “Exclusive” used to mean you and only you had snagged an interview with an otherwise media-shy person.

    I don’t get it.

  98. Well, if Trump is willing to just throw things out there, and if it’s true that they stick in a person’s mind after they keep hearing them, he should talk about the full requirements for NBC. It’s true, it would probably have to go to the SCOTUS. But if Trump starting challenging Obama on the fact that his father was not a citizen, let alone an NBC, and/or that his mother was too young to bestow citizenship, maybe people would finally learn about what NBC is (my god what’s wrong with our high school government classes?) AND it may stick in their heads.

    What really drives me crazy if when the politicos say that they’re not interested in the birther issue, what they’re interested in is (fill in some current, major issue in the country). Certainly they’re all important, but the ONLY reason not to be interested in the BC issue is after it has been proven false. A person (and many helpers) screwing the constitution, possibly setting themselves up for treason, is a HUGE story, with repercussions for our future. They should ALL be interested in it, as it has not been settled. And they know it. They have not seen the BC themselves – not the real one, nor the computer image.

  99. lorac says:

    I hope he gets more specific about what happened in the election – he said today something about, Hillary lost so badly – well, HELL no! He needs to address the caucus fraud, May 31, 2008 stealing of the delegates, and find out whatever they did to her to not allow her to stand at the convention.
    ********************************************************

    I hope so too…but T is only go to say as much as is helpful to him…I don’t have any illusions…he is self serving and if he does get in the race, he wants to win…I agree, if Hillary were in the race, I don’t think T would bother running, but with O in the race T will use what he knows about Hillary to help him win, not necessarily to help Hillary per se…

    T is a very cagey guy…the more I listen to him the more one can see that he is always one step ahead and he is a “master at the art of the smooze” you can see his business skills at work in almost every discussion so far…at the risk of sounding crude (please forgive me) but there is an expression that goes something like
    ‘you can’t BS a BSiter’ if you know what i mean…O is not going to out BS T…!!!

  100. Someone said that Huckabee joked about should he show HIS BC. I think whenever anyone asks that question, lots of voices should say YES! and hold him to it. After it happens a few times, it will further show how others can get their full BCs but poor Bawack can’t.

  101. Tony Stark, in a way you can say Trump is the Iron Man against paunchy Obama. 🙂 (Apologies for the weak humor, but with your name choice we could not resist.);

    And welcome to the discussion.

  102. I really want Trump to explain the difference between a short form and a long form BC. There is all kinds of data that can be verified on the long form. Oh, there’s the hospital – let subpeona their records. Oh, a doctor’s name – let’s get his input, too. Oh, the job his father worked when baby was born – compare it to the Official Messiah Story. The short form gives very little information, but the long form contains information which can be used to verify the document itself!

    So, if they do come up with a fake BC, figure that the hospital will have burned down, the MD will have passed and somehow he didn’t pass his records on to the partner who bought him out, oh the job BO Sr worked at when baby was born no longer exists, etc.

  103. Lorac, it has always amazed us how on this birth certificate issue there is so little curiosity from the very people who generally would be very interested.

    For instance, don’t you think that the hospital in which Obama was born would be proud, would really really want, to be recognized for being the hospital in which it was born? Wouldn’t that hospital want to put up a plaque or some sort of commemorative outside his hospital room? Wouldn’t the hospital want a “First African-American president was born in this room in this hospital” type message on the plaque?

    Maybe the hospital is ashamed of what they brought into this world. That would explain the lack of curiosity or lack of desire to generate publicity for the hospital. If shame is the motivation then we fully understand the desire for secrecy. 🙂

  104. admin says:

    For instance, don’t you think that the hospital in which Obama was born would be proud, would really really want, to be recognized for being the hospital in which it was born? Wouldn’t that hospital want to put up a plaque or some sort of commemorative outside his hospital room? Wouldn’t the hospital want a “First African-American president was born in this room in this hospital” type message on the plaque?

    ****************************************

    yes, just like all those missing friends…friends from his youth, middle school, high school, old girlfriends, etc…

    it’s like he is an alien that just dropped in and suddenly appeared during the coke days, Occidental college and then Harvard…community organizer, US Senator, and viola…President of USA

  105. Its official, its off to Brewer, now lets see how Bambi responds to this.

    Arizona lawmakers OK requiring proof of citizenship to run for president

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/04/14/20110414arizona-lawmakers-approve-proof-of-citizenship-to-run-for-president.html

    The Arizona Legislature has become the first in the nation to pass a measure requiring presidential candidates to provide proof of citizenship in order to get on the state’s ballot.

    House Bill 2177 got final approval Thursday night from the House. It will be transmitted to Gov. Jan Brewer, who will then have five days to sign it, veto it or do nothing and allow it to become law.

    If Brewer chooses to veto the bill, Republican lawmakers could attempt an override vote. The bill would become law if two-thirds of legislators supported the override.

    “It’s essential that we bring back the integrity to the office,” Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, said during a recent debate on one of the so-called “birther” measures.

    HB 2177, sponsored by Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, would require presidential and vice presidential candidates to provide the Arizona secretary of state with documents proving they are natural-born citizens.

    Those documents can be either a long-form birth certificate or two or more other permitted documents, including an early baptismal certificate, circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, postpartum medical record signed by the person who delivered the child or an early census record.

    If a candidate failed to submit required documents or the secretary of state deemed them insufficient, the candidate would not be listed on Arizona’s ballot.

    The bill has come before the Legislature several times in the past two years in various forms and has been proposed so far unsuccessfully in several other states in recent years.

    It stems from questions about President Barack Obama’s origin. Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama’s birth in their state, but some continue to believe that he was born in Kenya, his father’s homeland.

    Rep. Ruben Gallego, D-Phoenix, voted against the bill and said he was embarrassed by his fellow lawmakers.

    “Arizona is the first state to pass a birther bill. We look pretty much backward,” Gallego said. “You might as well change Arizona to Alabama.”

    Supporters of the bill said it had nothing to do with Obama but is a way to assure Arizona voters that presidential candidates meet federal requirements for the position.

    Speaker of the House Kirk Adams, R-Mesa, said he voted for the bill only because the final version, he believes, is constitutional and the bill requires all candidates – including those for local office – to show that they meet the individual requirements of their office.

    “I believe this particular piece of legislation does not add to or detract from the qualifications for president as stated in the United States Constitution,” Adams said.

  106. and as usual all the Obots are having a cow over this.

    Simple, show the BC, its not so fucking hard morons.

  107. S, its like a recent Doctor Who episode where the Master suddenly becomes Prime Minister because he’s used satellites as a psychic network blocking his true identity from everyone into think he’s something else creating a false identity and life.

    or Angelina Jolie’s Salt film where the girl goes off to a holiday when she’s 5 and she’s kidnapped and another girl who is a sleeper agent is returned in her place waiting until she’s activated.

    Surely the lack of anything veryifying anything in his life should have set off alarm bells.

  108. votermom
    April 14th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Means testing is a mistake. It leads to more red tape which inevitably costs more than any “savings”. It also leads to corruption and scams. Social security is not “charity” that should only go to “deserving poor.” It is for everyone who ever paid into it because we all, hopefully unless we die first, grow too old to work.

    ===============

    Great good sense!

  109. borrowing from the SS fund by our government has created a perception that SS is broke when it’s actually been looted.

    Thanks for using the proper terminology. Looted. And those who do not want to pay it back and do not pay their debts are DEADBEATS.

    ================

    The SS trust fund is supposed to earn interest. That means being loaned out at interest. So it needed to be loaned to someone.

    Maybe it was loaned to the wrong people, who now do not want to pay it back. Or maybe the people who want to loot it, are just talking nonsense.

  110. Lorac –

    lorac
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Norma: This is the argument Team Obama wants to bring before the SCOTUS-
    Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hinderance to children seeking the American Dream…

    Lorac: What a bunch of baloney…

    For the record – that was Mrs. Smith’s argument. 🙂

  111. At some level, this debate highlights the deeply rooted philosophical difference between the Democrat and Republican Parties. Mike Wallace represents the former and Ayn Rand the latter. They represent fundamentally different view of morality. If you have not been exposed to objectivism before (I had not) then this may be of some interest.

  112. Well, I have been thoroughly enjoying Trump’s pommeling of BO but I have to confess that when I caught most of the Hannity interview last night I came away less than dazzled with Donald’s rhetorical skills.

    He’s great at the one-liner, the passion, the cut-to-the-chase bluntness but there were many instances of him repeating the same line to different questions which, to me, conveyed either a dearth of quickly accessible responses or less than a surface knowledge of some topics.

    I think he’s going to have to hit the books to go on. He’s got a great first act but theres’ far more to come.

    He can do it, if he wants.ro

  113. 😳

    BO, of course, has similar intellectual shortcomings but you will never hear a peep from the media about that.

    SO Donald is going to have to be super-prepared.

  114. #
    gonzotx
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    I know, it is exactly as I feared and the SC will probably go along with it and the populist outside of a few, Tea Party, Hillary supporters, will not care. This is what dumbing down a society with no walls does to it. Why protect the boarder when it’s been the plan all along.
    _________________

    Here’s another thought and as remote as it sounds, it just may be an outside possibility- Playing the Devil’s advocate here for a second-

    Just suppose the SCOTUS is aware, ( through the attorney grapevine ) IF they decide to take on the “natural born citizen issue” Obama is going to use: “Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hindrance to children seeking the American Dream… as his defense”. ( as was heard yesterday in Obama’s almost verbatim comment alluding to this exact example ) The SCOTUS may feel this argument will open a Pandora’s Box which because of public outcry supporting Obama’s position, they will feel forced to change the Constitutional requirement of NBC as a prerequisite for a candidate for the US Presidency. Thus allowing foreign born citizens running for the office of the presidency (just because they took the case!)

  115. #
    Norma Desmond
    April 15th, 2011 at 6:53 am

    Lorac –

    lorac
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Norma: This is the argument Team Obama wants to bring before the SCOTUS-
    Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hinderance to children seeking the American Dream…

    Lorac: What a bunch of baloney…

    For the record – that was Mrs. Smith’s argument. 🙂
    ____________________

    I guess, I didn’t miss anything then- maybe cocktails caused the confusion?

  116. Obama tolerates environmental degradation by multinational corporations so long as the violators support his re election campaign. We saw this in Illinois, with Excelon. Are we seeing again in Alaska? A friend of mine is involved in this issue, and I have similar concerns based on my own time up there. Just to give you an idea of what is at stake here, Bristol Bay is the largest salmon producing area in the world. During 2-3 weeks in the summer 20 million sockeye salmon go up a four river system –Naknek Kivjak Nushigak and Egegig Rivers.

    By the way, do not expect Robert Redford to connect those dots. He is a blind Obama disciple, and therefore is not a credible voice in this debate, despite all his preening and self congratulatory eminence on environmentalism. His support for environmentalism is no different really than what you get from other limousine liberals, which is to say that it is honorific and decorative.
    ———————————————————
    Dear Thomas,

    Are they crazy?

    Corporate giants are planning to put a toxic mega-mine — with colossal dams holding back an estimated 10 billion tons of contaminated mining waste — in the heart of an American wilderness and active earthquake zone.

    This Earth Day, please help Robert Redford and NRDC rally the American people against this corporate madness.

    We have a powerful, full-page print ad ready to go. It features Robert Redford’s very moving and personal call to arms against building the Pebble Mine in Bristol Bay, Alaska — a plan he rightly calls “an environmental tragedy waiting to happen.”

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    We need to raise $70,000 right away to get this ad placed next week and spark nationwide opposition to this outrageous attack on an American paradise by the Anglo American and Rio Tinto corporations.

    We will reach our goal in just 24 hours if a few thousand supporters like you each make a small tax-deductible donation. Will you help get us there?

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  117. He’s great at the one-liner, the passion, the cut-to-the-chase bluntness but there were many instances of him repeating the same line to different questions which, to me, conveyed either a dearth of quickly accessible responses or less than a surface knowledge of some topics.
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    Basil- I feel just the opposite. Repetitive sound bites are what works in a media age where people are more impressed by images than analysis, are half listening and have the attention span of a flea. There is however one caveat: he must be prepared to defend those sound bites when they are challenged. That is where Sarah is vulnerable. One way to do that is to tell the asshole journalist who tries to pose a have you stopped beating your wife question (either way you answer it you lose), tell them I do not agree with your question. In other words, cannot allow them to control you or put words in your mouth. Remember how that numbnutz David Gregory tried to do that to Hillary. She told the asshole to stop putting words in her mouth.

  118. Wbboe,

    I mostly agree but I thought I heard a lot of bluster in Trump’s responses as the interview wore on and when Hannity asked slightly different questions rather than fine-tuning his responses he would just repeat what he had said in the previous response and the answers weren’t always relevant.

    His inexperience as a politician can help him but could also hurt him, IMHO. For example, the article over at Drudge with Trump calling Carter, then Bush, then Obama the worst president in history shows he’s got to start realizing the full impact of his words.

    I’m rooting for DT but I want him to be unbeatable. That’s all. I will watch the 2nd part of the interview tonight.

    Maybe it’s just me. Don’t get me wrong. I am eager for DT to succeed. It just seemed like he didn’t bring his A-game last night. Did you see the video?

  119. Obama playing the wealthy very well this time around; won’t need any of the small stuff from small people, but will take it to make them feel good:

    Two million dollars. That’s the figure President Obama is expected to bring in Thursday evening in Chicago as he headlines three fundraising events in the Windy City. The first fundraisers will take place in Chicago restaurants, with about 225 attendees at each dinner, a Democratic source tells Fox News. The final event at the Navy Pier will have about 2,000 people, and is hosted by Gen44, a group of young supporters jumping in to help for the re-election. Former White House Chief of Staff and Chicago Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel will be in attendance. Tickets start at $100 and range up to the max of $35,800.
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/04/14/president-obama-heads-chicago-campaign-fundraising

    Politico reports this upcoming NY fundraiser:
    President Barack Obama’s first New York event since he launched his reelection will be at the home of former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, with the former Goldman Sachs financier set to host a high-dollar, small dinner, an invitation to the event shows. [NJN reported it to be held at Corzine’s girlfriend’s place; she too is a financier. NJN also placed the price per head in the mid to high $30K range] After dinner there will be a reception for roughly 350 people at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, with tickets ranging from $2,500 a head to $25,000 per person. The highest level gets guests a spot at the VIP reception and in the photo line with the president. Then, there will be a low-dollar event, ranging from $250 to $1,000 per person, which is a “kick-off reception” with the president. The site hasn’t yet been announced.
    The events are part of a series of big-city fundraising stops the president is expected to make….

  120. Admin- please post video, thanks-

    #
    wbboei
    April 15th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Repetitive sound bites are what works in a media age where people are more impressed by images than analysis, are half listening and have the attention span of a flea. There is however one caveat: he must be prepared to defend those sound bites when they are challenged. That is where Sarah is vulnerable. One way to do that is to tell the asshole journalist who tries to pose a have you stopped beating your wife question (either way you answer it you lose), tell them I do not agree with your question. In other words, cannot allow them to control you or put words in your mouth. Remember how that numbnutz David Gregory tried to do that to Hillary. She told the asshole to stop putting words in her mouth.
    __________________________

    I agree- and Trump is also backing Jerome Corsi’s due out in the next week or so- Trump has plenty of ammo in reserve asking this most damaging question.

    The title of Dr. Corsi’s book: “WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?”
    The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKT4OJ9tuU&feature=player_embedded#at=20

    By Dr. Jerome Corsi will be promoting via tv adverts a short video clip asking the question face to face with Dr Corsi having more to say about the research done in Hawaii, Kenya and live witness accounts.

  121. Obama got caught off mic again, i have my doubts, this seems like he knew it was on, it sounds like he’s campaigning, he did this deliberately.

    Obama: GOP tried to “sneak” agenda into budget

    In what he thought was a private chat with campaign donors Thursday evening, President Obama offered the most revealing behind-the-scenes account to date of his budget negotiations with GOP leaders last week.

    CBS Radio News White House correspondent Mark Knoller listened in to an audio feed of Mr. Obama’s conversation with donors after other reporters traveling with the president had left the room.

    In the candid remarks, Mr. Obama complains of Republican attempts to attach measures to the budget bill which would have effectively killed parts of his hard-won health care reform program.

    “I said, ‘You want to repeal health care? Go at it. We’ll have that debate. You’re not going to be able to do that by nickel-and-diming me in the budget. You think we’re stupid?'” recalled the president of his closed-door negotiations on the bill to fund the federal government until September.

    What’s in the budget bill?

    Mr. Obama said he told House Speaker John Boehner and members of his staff that he’d spent a year and a half getting the sweeping health care legislation passed — paying “significant political costs” along the way — and wouldn’t let them undo it in a six-month spending bill.

    The bill, approved by Congress on Thursday, trims about $38 billion from the government’s spending authority, though confusion and consternation over the size of the bill’s actual spending cuts increased Thursday in the wake of a report showing the legislation would only bring a reduction of $352 million in non-war government outlays for the rest of this fiscal year since most of the cuts come from authorized funds not intended to be spent right away.

    (At left, hear the remarks in Bill Plante’s report on the event)

    Speaking into a microphone which he may not have realized was still relaying his remarks to the White House press room — where Knoller had been listening to earlier remarks that were open to the press — Mr. Obama bemoaned GOP leaders’ attempts to attach a measure to the budget bill which would have cut funding for Planned Parenthood.

    “Put it in a separate bill,” the president said he told Boehner and his staff. “We’ll call it up. And if you think you can overturn my veto, try it. But don’t try to sneak this through.”

    In the end, the deal that was struck did see the Planned Parenthood measure, and a separate effort to defund parts of the health care program, voted on as stand-alone bills Thursday prior to the budget vote. Both measures failed in the Senate.

    With the limited 2011 budget now set to hit Mr. Obama’s desk following Thursday’s vote, both he and his opponents across the aisle are expected to move quickly into negotiations on a much larger, multi-year budget, which both sides hope will trim trillions, rather than mere millions, from the nation’s towering deficit.

    Obama deficit reduction plan leaves deficits
    It’s on: Obama takes iron fist to GOP
    Is Social Security on the table as Obama, Congress tackle the deficit?

    The president told his backers Thursday night that he expects Republicans to continue using that process to enact their political agenda under the guise of cutting spending. He specifically called into question the sincerity of Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who crafted the House GOP’s controversial 2012 budget which includes significant and controversial cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

    “When Paul Ryan says his priority is to make sure, he’s just being America’s accountant … This is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for, voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for,” Mr. Obama told his supporters. “So it’s not on the level.”

  122. On Yahoo! news right now…

    Democrats’ Disgust With Obama

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/13511_budgetshowdowndemocratsdisgustwithobama;_ylt=AizMH6KQNrBmPYZWqgmxSG4UewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTQ5Z2huZ2kzBGFzc2V0A2RhaWx5YmVhc3QvMjAxMTA0MTUvMTM1MTFfYnVkZ2V0c2hvd2Rvd25kZW1vY3JhdHNkaXNndXN0d2l0aG9iYW1hBGNjb2RlA21wX2VjXzhfMTAEY3BvcwM1BHBvcwM1BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDZGVtb2NyYXRzZGlz#mwpphu-container

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    My comment below (to rub some Øbama supporting noses in the dirt & to show that not all Democrats supported the fraud)…

    Poor DemocRATS. I supported Hillary Clinton in the Florida primaries in 2008 only to have my vote not count. When that happened, I knew that the Democratic party was no longer a party that I could support, at least not with the current leaders (including Nancy Pelousy). I knew Øbama would suck, and I have been proven right. I have voted straight Republican ever since, and I intend on voting AGAINST Democrats again in 2012. The Democratic party in its current form is a group of lowlife progressives who are leading the party into the abyss, and who still can’t admit that they were wrong in 2008 for supporting him. I for one couldn’t be any more happy about this situation. Øbama’s supporters in 2008 were nasty, duplicitous people. Can you say BITTER now, you scumbags? How about teabagger? I am loving every darn minute of this.

  123. I think on race, Trump will tell the truth and that will win the day. The truth is that it is the AAs that are racist as race is the obvious facot in their strong support of O……it doesn’t matter who he is or what he stands for …he’s black…they support him.

    I like Trump more and more. I had told all my liberal, dem friends who hated Palin and were going to vote O, that his election would drive the country back to the far right….and it did for the last election. But now the American people seem to have had enough of the right wing nuts and the left wing nuts. There are opportunities in life that only come once. More and more I think Hillary made a terrible mistake in accepting and participating in a O’s presidency. In her heart she must have known he was wrong for the country and the job. Now she is forever linked to him with her support…..however qualifiedand tepid that support.

    Trump is stepping up to fill the void. I believe Hillary should have fought harder and not given up against O. Perhaps I am naive, but I believe she could have run as an independent in that race for potus and beaten McCain and O without even campaigning. The majority of the country just did not want either one of them.

    So now Trump. Unless the dems dump O…and I see little chance of that happening….I hope it will be Trump vs O. Trump will win. I have no doubt about it. The country wants competent leadership and wants to find the center. Americans yearn for common sense at the highest level of government…..an enemy is an enemy and a rip off is unfair. We need to defend ourselves, our values and our standard of living. I don’t agree with all of Trump’s politics, but that doesn’t matter at this point.

    One thing is for sure. Nothing stays the same. The world is always changing. Our counntry’s politics has just about hit rock bottom after Bush and now O. I mean how low can we go? I really think a Trump presidency would be a step on the path out of decline.

  124. “and that we want a country that is reflective of generosity and compassion; and that we want every kid to be able to be a governor or the head of a big company, regardless of where they were born,”
    ****************************
    ‘regardless of where they are born”.
    Is this Obama’s first step toward caving on his bc problem, but changing the argument beforehand once again?

  125. Carol
    April 15th, 2011 at 10:06 am
    ——————————-
    Excellent commentary. In 2008 the issue was hope and change. By 2012 it may be survival. Think about a 40% increase in gasoline prices this summer and how that will ripple through the economy, and how Obama has contributed to that problem by his refusal to drill in this country, and his use of taxpayer money to fund drilling in Brazil where his godfather Soros is invested, and his internet arm Blue State Digital is working. I agree that Trump is the answer. The establishment republicans strike me as a bunch of eunuchs who lack the courage of their convictions. I think they are not merely disgusting they are pathetic. That notion is creeping into the mindset of their base. I watched Orin Hatch last night. I remember what a fire breathing dragon he was when he first came on the scene thirty years and led the charge against common situs picketing. Today he is a shell of what he once was, and needs to retire.

  126. BigCatLover
    April 15th, 2011 at 10:10 am
    …to be able to be a governor or the head of a big company, regardless of where they were born…

    I did not know that there were any constitutional requirements to be a governor or head of a big corporation. He is trying to equate being CEO of Ford Motor company or governor of California with being Prez. And if that is being switched something else will be switched also such as we don’t want to embarrass people by requiring their birth certificates as it shows a cultural insensitivity or some such nonsense as if every ethnicity does not have little surprises on their birth records throughout history. Of course very few people base their entire careers on a “fairy tale”. This is a head fake to change the subject away from that.

  127. When I say the issue is survival, I mean not only the 20% of the population who are unemployed or underemployed. I also mean the people who are working and will retire on a modest pension. Those people have cause to wonder whether their money will run out before they die and what will happen to them then. Having spent the past year in that environment with my mother, I can tell you for a fact that the back 9 is not pleasant. And where Obama is taking all of us is infinitely worse. Simply put, he and his mentor Soros do not care about old people. Useless eaters is how Soros sees them.

  128. Mrs. Smith – no big mystery; easy misattribution. I find it very interesting that cocktails would be suggested. But perhaps it was an invitation, and I as I don’t drink, I’ll have to turn your offer for morning cocktails down. lol

    Mrs. Smith
    April 14th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Norma Desmond
    April 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Obama tonight

    “and that we want a country that is reflective of generosity and compassion; and that we want every kid to be able to be a governor or the head of a big company, regardless of where they were born,”
    __________________

    This is the argument Team Obama wants to bring before the SCOTUS-
    Claiming the diversity of ethnicities is a hinderance to children seeking the American Dream…

  129. DECENT ANALYSIS BY NOONAN:

    peggynoonan.com

    Obama Is Likely to Lose
    But Republican unseriousness may be his trump card.
    The Wall Street Journal: April 14, 2011

    Suppose everything we think we know about the president’s political position is wrong? That’s what I think became clear this week.

    You know the conventional wisdom. It is that unemployment ticking down, plus the economy inching back, plus the power of the presidency to affect events, equal a likely Obama victory in 2012. Smart people, especially Republicans, believe this. But how about this for a thought: It’s not true. It’s all wrong. Barack Obama can be taken, and his adversaries haven’t even noticed. In fact, he will likely lose in 2012. Only one thing can save him. More on that further down.

    Let’s start with the immediate and go to the overarching. The president is immersed in another stressed and unsuccessful spring after a series of losing seasons. Internationally, he’s involved in a confused effort that involves bombing Libyan government troops and sometimes their rebel opponents, leaving the latter scattered and scurrying. Responsibility to protect is looking like tendency to deflect. Domestically, the president’s opponents seized the high ground on the great issue of the day, spending and debt, and held it after the president’s speech this week. In last week’s budget duel, the president was outgunned by Republicans in the House and outclassed by Paul Ryan, who offered seriousness and substance as a unique approach to solving our fiscal problems.

    In this week’s polls: An Ipsos survey says 69% of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track, up five points since March. Zogby has only 38% of national respondents saying Mr. Obama deserves re-election, with 55% wanting someone new. Mr. Obama carried Pennsylvania in 2008 by double digits; a poll there this week shows only 42% approving his leadership, with 52% disapproving. Gallup had the president’s support slipping among blacks and Hispanics, with the latter’s numbers dramatic: 73% supported him when he was inaugurated, 54% do now. Support among whites on Inauguration Day was 60%. Now it is 39%.

    We’re all so used to reporting the general trend of these polls that we fail to see their significance: The more that people experience his leadership, the less they like his leadership. There’s no real reason to think upticks in this direction or that will seriously change this. Another way to say it is that there have been upticks that might have benefited the president, and so far they haven’t.

    At this point everyone mentions Mr. Obama’s personal approval numbers, which are consistently higher than his leadership numbers. The RealClearPolitics average puts his personal approval at 47.6%, which doesn’t sound bad. But let me offer a hunch based on conversations with people from many walks of life and all regions the past 18 months. The president’s personal numbers are probably lower than the polls report. Not that the polls are dishonest, but the American people don’t want to not like Mr. Obama. They don’t want to tell a young pollster that hey don’t like a man they elected two years ago, with excitement and hope, by a margin of 9.5 million votes. There are two things I have never heard, not once, in the past year: “I love this guy—I love Obama,” and “If only John McCain were president, everything would be better.”

    I suspect, and it’s only a suspicion, that there’s a degree to which people tell pollsters they like Mr. Obama to take the sting out of the fact that they just told the pollster they don’t approve of his leadership.

    We all get stuck in the day-to-day and lose sight of the overarching, but the overarching fact of Mr. Obama’s presidency is that he made a bad impression his first years in office and has never turned that impression around. He spent his first 14 months moving on what he was thinking about—health care—and not what the public was thinking about—the economic crash, jobs, spending. He seemed not to be thinking like everyone else, which underscored the idea that he was unresponsive to the crises they were seeing. It’s hard to get past that.

    His speech this week brought together all the strands of his flawed leadership. It was at moments clever, but merely clever, not up to the needs of the moment—and cleverness in a time of crisis comes as an affront. The speech seemed oblivious to recent history, as if the president had just discovered something no one knows about, a problem with spending, and has decided to alert us to the danger. He said other politicians attempt to cut by focusing on “waste and abuse,” but he knows the real secret: The problem is entitlement spending. But addressing entitlements is all anyone serious has been talking about for years; it’s what the Ryan plan is all about!

    The speech was intellectually incoherent. An administration that spent two years saying, essentially, that high spending is good is suddenly insisting high spending is catastrophic. The president appealed for bipartisan efforts but his manner and approach leave his appeals sounding like diktats. His attempts to seem above the fray leave him seeming distanced and unwilling to risk anything.

    Most important, the speech signaled that the White House, after all this time, sees the question of spending as a partisan tool, a weapon to be deployed in an election, and not an actual crisis. This is disrespectful toward citizens who feel honest alarm.

    Because of these flaws, the speech will have no afterlife, and a major speech with no afterlife might as well not have been given.

    You would think Democratic professionals, who read the same numbers Republicans do and pick up similar trends, would be hanging their heads in despair.

    They are not. They have hope. Their hope is that Republicans in the early caucus and primary states will go crazy. They hope the GOP will nominate for the presidency someone strange, extreme or barely qualified. They hope that in a mood of antic cultural pique, or in a great acting out of disdain for elites, or to annoy the mainstream media, Republican voters will raise high candidates who are unacceptable to everyone else. Everyone else of course being the great and vital center, which hires and fires presidents. The Democrats’ hope is that centrists will look at the Republican nominee and, holding their nose, choose the devil they know. Especially if the one they don’t know seems to have little horns under his hair.

    Republicans voting in recent presidential primaries have tended to pick the candidates who are viewed as the moderate in the race—Bob Dole in 1996, George W. Bush in 2000, John McCain in 2008. But in truth, there are some pretty antic candidates out there this year.

    The great question of the coming year is not, “Will Obama reignite his base?” or, “Will the Democrats outraise and outspend the GOP?” It is: Will the GOP be serious? Will Republicans be equal to their history, their tradition and the moment? If they are—if they recruit and support candidates who can speak to the entire country, who have serious experience and accomplishments, who are grounded and credible, then they will win centrist support. And with it they will likely win the thing without which they cannot achieve the big changes they seek, and that is the presidency.

  130. wbboei
    April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 am
    Carol
    April 15th, 2011 at 10:06 am
    ——————————-
    Think about a 40% increase in gasoline prices this summer and how that will ripple through the economy, and how Obama has contributed to that problem by his refusal to drill in this country, and his use of taxpayer money to fund drilling in Brazil where his godfather Soros is invested, and his internet arm Blue State Digital is working.
    _________________________________________________

    And, covertly, fomenting upheaval in the mideast so as to create instability and raise fuel prices, ushering in commercial viability of bogus “alternative energy”. I know that is going on as sure as I’m breathing.

    If someone could ever get their hands on that blackberry of his …..

  131. CHARLIE COOK SUDDENLY THINKS POORLY OF “PUBLICITY-HUNGRY REALITY-SHOW” TYPES.

    But isn’t that what Obama is?
    A joke?
    A no-show?
    A lightweight?
    A ribbon-cutting Mayor-in-Chief?
    A sports analyst celebrity?

    nationaljournal.com/columns/cook-report/the-cook-report-trump-s-a-joke-20110414

    Legitimate presidential candidates are at risk of being marginalized by a publicity-hungry reality-show host.

    [the article itself was excised because it props up the standard Repub and MSM argument, that Trump is a nobody and should be ignored. This implies that his “birther” status makes him a joke. The joke is on people who believe that constitutional requirements for presidency should only apply to certain people, but exemptions can be made. THEY SHOULD NOT.]

  132. hat we want every kid to be able to be a governor or the head of a big company, regardless of where they were born,”
    ————————–
    That is a bizarre statement indeed. It is subject to the interpretation you suggest. Or it could be a reiteration of the Soros demand for open borders. As far as I know, foreigners have headed up US corporations in the past, so the statement is superfulous on that level. As far as governors are concerned there are eligibility requirements that vary state to state. But where the presidency is concerned the law is very specific. Indeed, it is so specific that it was used to prevent Hamilton who was born a bastard in the West Indies could never ascend to that position. As it turned out a bullet fired from a dueling pistol in New Jersey in an early morning light ended any challenge he might have launched.

  133. And Noonan’s piece above also implies that only “serious” Republicans should run, implying that Trump is a joke.

    Peggy, back in 2008, you waxed on eloquently about Obama being a transformational candidate. Go read your own stupid articles from 2-3 years ago, and contrast with what you write now. See a disconnect???

    Did Obama change since 2007? NO! He’s the same idiot he ever was. You just chose to believe the mirage. You bought the Brooklyn Bridge for $10,000. You bought that nice little property in the swamp. Enjoy it. Here’s your DEET spray.

  134. I have never seen anything like this. I stopped in a Starbucks this am on what is basically Point Park University’s campus for the wifi. The kids were talking Donald. Uh oh bambi the unorthodox Trump is registering with your base. Add in the union stiffs which salivate every time DT says China and what you got left waffles?

    I am so loving this

  135. OBUMMA SUCKING IN TECHNICOLOR NOW…

    latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-approval-rating-gallup,0,7897019.story

    Obama job approval hits 5-month low in Gallup poll
    ====================

    By Michael A. Memoli and Peter Nicholas

    April 14, 2011, 12:50 p.m.

    It could be gas prices, the budget debate, or simply the usual ups and downs of public opinion polling. But President Obama’s approval rating has dipped to a five-month low in Gallup’s daily tracking poll, reverting to post-midterm election lows.

    The survey, a three-day rolling average conducted April 11-13, pegs Obama’s approval at 42%, the lowest since Nov. 10-12. For only the 13th time in his term and the first time since late October, his disapproval rating has reached 50%.

    Since the self-described “shellacking” of his party last November, Obama’s numbers have zig-zagged within a 9-point range, from the low of 42% to a high of 51%. He enjoyed a sustained upward trend after the tax cuts compromise in December’s lame duck session of Congress.

    Any boost he may have gained from last Friday’s 11th hour compromise may be offset by other economic concerns, particularly higher fuel prices.

    The White House routinely dismisses polling data. But it’s a troublesome footnote as the president kicks off his re-election effort Thursday.

    Obama’s low approval rating is not the result of the major speech he delivered on Wednesday. Some of the polling took place before he delivered the speech. Rather, a Gallup official believes the results reflect broad public dissatisfaction with the economy.

    “You can never discount the economy as a reason,” said Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll. “It’s important to remember that Americans are down on the economy right now. We saw some glimmers of uptick, but that’s faded. And there’s no way that can’t help but rub off” on the president.

    The new numbers suggest that gains Obama had recorded after the productive lame duck session of Congress last December have been wiped out. Obama’s approval rating registered at 50% by the end of the lame duck session, where Obama reached rare compromises with Republicans on taxes and other major legislation.

    “There’s a lot going on in the political environment right now, including the (budget) agreement reached last Friday and the wrangling this week over his speech,” Newport said. “The economy is perceived as bad, economic confidence data is bad, gas prices are up – so there are a number of proximate causes” for the downturn.

  136. Legitimate presidential candidates are at risk of being marginalized by a publicity-hungry reality-show host.
    ————————————–
    Fuck Charlie Cook. Is that all Donald Trump is to him? A publicity hungry reality show host? How about a billionaire who has made his money in real estate and other endeavors, with a proven track record of success that could be applied to solving the country’s problems rather than kicking the can down the road. And who are these legitimate politicians who are being marginalized? Is the spawn of the Chicago machine a legitimate politician? Is he Charlie? I do not mean just his birth certificate, I mean his proven track record of selling out his constituents to big business interests? Is he legitimate Charlie–yes or no. And what about the Republican side. There they stand committed to fiscal responsibility. That is all they talk about. But action talks and bullshit walks. The American People give them the purse strings and what do they do? Why they roll over for Obama not once but twice, in exchange for what can only be described as illusory promises. He played them for suckers. Are they legitimate? Is it wrong that they should be marginalized by Trump who has a track record of success when all they can offer is a track record of failure. Help me understand your logic here Charlie–you dullard.

  137. SHOCK! Obama’s budget proposal relies 60 percent on higher taxes not 25% as WH claims (via Goldman Sachs)

  138. wbboie
    what is being marginalized in a big way is the scant significance lame stream media had left. None give Trump any props in fact they tear into him and yet his popularity grows.

    Again I m so loving this

  139. Well off to see Atlas Shrugged. Heard on the radidio that there are protesters. Should be interesting. I have to take two buses to get there. I wonder how hard it is to sneak in a box of wine. Me thinks I might need it.

  140. HOW CLOSE IS OBAMA TO BECOMING “UNELECTABLE”

    Jay Cost dissects the most recent speech and its intended purposes. Quite excellent!

    Some highlighted quotes:

    “I often wonder to myself, is President Obama by any chance up tonight as well, worrying about the deficit and the feasibility of his own plan? On Wednesday, I got my answer: No, he’s fast asleep.”

    “Not only was Obama’s speech on Wednesday political, it was completely rote, by-the-book Obama politics. He couldn’t even bring out an interesting twist to his stock partisan speech.”

    “What Obama cannot suffer is a drop in support among Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents. That’s how he could fall from the mid-40s into the high-30s. And that makes a huge psychological difference – like the price of oil going above $100. A president in the mid-40s is still in the game vis-à-vis the next election. A president in the 30s is flailing, in deep trouble, and appears headed for defeat. That’s a perception Team Obama just cannot tolerate.”

    “A big part of their electoral strategy is to make him seem invincible. Why else would an incumbent president need a billion dollars?”

    “After Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, the Bush tax cuts, bailing on the public option, and now the budget deal, it isn’t hard to envision some Democrats, maybe just 10 percent, walking away, at least in the short term. That would drop his numbers down into the 30s in some polls, puncturing this absurd notion among many that he’s a virtual lock to win next November.”

    weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-obamas-speech-was-meant-shore-left_557437.html?nopager=1

    Morning Jay: Obama’s Speech Was Meant to Reassure the Left
    =================

    6:00 AM, Apr 15, 2011
    By JAY COST

    Lately, I’ve been staying up late at night because I’m just too stressed over the state of the union. Unable to sleep, I often find myself toggling between scores of Excel spreadsheets, crunching all sorts of numbers to get my mind around the gaping budget deficit that is threatening the country. It isn’t pretty, as we all know, and unfortunately my computations have only made me feel worse.

    For instance, take the president’s FY 2012 budget. CBO’s analysis of it indicates that it will add about 8.8 trillion in inflation-adjusted dollars to the deficit by 2021. That’s a lot. But it could be a lot more. CBO projects that real economic growth over the next decade will average 2.9 percent per year. If, however, real growth over the next decade mimics what we saw in the last 10 years (1.7 percent on average), my back-of-the-envelope calculation suggests we’d be talking about at least an $11.3 trillion inflation-adjusted deficit. That’s an additional $2.5 trillion just over an assumption about the economy.

    Late at night, while deriving these sorts of utterly depressing numbers, I often wonder to myself, is President Obama by any chance up tonight as well, worrying about the deficit and the feasibility of his own plan?

    On Wednesday, I got my answer: No, he’s fast asleep.

    Not only was Obama’s speech on Wednesday political, it was completely rote, by-the-book Obama politics. He couldn’t even bring out an interesting twist to his stock partisan speech. Here’s how it always goes, with Wednesday being no exception:

    I. Introduction of some grand narrative of American history.

    II. Introduction of the policy problem, making clear that Obama had nothing to do with it.

    III. Argument that the proposal of Obama’s opponents is inconsistent with that grand narrative.

    IV. Argument that Obama’s proposal is consistent with that grand narrative.

    V. Conclusion that Obama’s proposal is the only “American” solution to the policy problem.

    So, the only interesting question to me is: If this was a political speech, what was its purpose?

    If we look at the “proposals” to curb the deficit in this speech, we see three big ones:

    1. Tax increases.

    2. Military spending cuts.

    3. Giving the unelected Independent Payment Advisory Board even more power to make cuts to Medicare.

    None of these proposals will appeal to independent voters in the center. Not a single one. In fact, Bill Clinton enacted deficit reduction in the early 1990s by pushing the first two items, and they contributed to the Democratic debacle in 1994.

    So, if it wasn’t to win over the center, what was the political point? Check out how the New York Times gushed over the speech:

    &&&&&&
    “The man America elected president has re-emerged. For months, the original President Obama had disappeared behind mushy compromises and dimly seen principles. But on Wednesday, he used his budget speech to clearly distance himself from Republican plans to heap tax benefits on the rich while casting adrift the nation’s poor, elderly and unemployed. Instead of adapting the themes of the right to his own uses, he set out a very different vision of an America that keeps its promises to the weak and asks for sacrifice from the strong.”

    “The deficit-reduction plan he unveiled did not always live up to that vision and should have been less fixated on spending cuts at the expense of tax increases. It may give up too much as an opening position. But at least it was a reasonable basis for a conversation and is far better than its most prominent competitors. That is because it is grounded in themes of generosity and responsibility that, until recently, had been shared by leaders of both parties.”
    &&&&&&&&& end Times quote &&&&&&&

    Lefties all across the blogosphere were similarly feeling that old familiar thrill run up their legs.

    I think that was the point. Here’s why.

    If you look carefully at Obama’s job approval numbers, you’ll notice that they are being propped up by strong support among Democrats. In last week’s Gallup poll, for instance, Obama was holding 80 percent of Democrats, and just 39 percent of independents and 11 percent of Republicans, for a total job approval of 45 percent. Given that most party battles happen between the 45 yard lines, the Gallup numbers suggest that most of the voters that both sides actively play for are no longer on Obama’s side, at least for now.

    What Obama cannot suffer is a drop in support among Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents. That’s how he could fall from the mid-40s into the high-30s. And that makes a huge psychological difference – like the price of oil going above $100. A president in the mid-40s is still in the game vis-à-vis the next election. A president in the 30s is flailing, in deep trouble, and appears headed for defeat. That’s a perception Team Obama just cannot tolerate. A big part of their electoral strategy is to make him seem invincible. Why else would an incumbent president need a billion dollars? What is that going to buy him? You could spend a billion dollars trying to convince me that the sun rises in the west, but I can assure you it wouldn’t work. Similarly, you could spend a billion trying to convince millions of former supporters that Obama’s done a good job, but if they think he stinks, your money will have been wasted. A campaign based on, “Who ya gonna believe…me or your lyin’ eyes?” will not be a very effective one. No, the billion is all about generating the perception of invincibility. It’s all about astroturfing a seemingly inexorable Obama bandwagon, which was a core component of his 2008 primary and general election strategies. And that perception would shatter if he sinks into the 30s. That’s George H. W. Bush and Jimmy Carter territory. That’s no good.

    The budget deal that Obama cut with congressional Republicans last week is unlikely to buy him much of anything with independents or Republicans in the electorate, but the negative reviews it garnered from the liberal intelligentsia were a potential problem for the president. After Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, the Bush tax cuts, bailing on the public option, and now the budget deal, it isn’t hard to envision some Democrats, maybe just 10 percent, walking away, at least in the short term. That would drop his numbers down into the 30s in some polls, puncturing this absurd notion among many that he’s a virtual lock to win next November.

    In other words, this speech was meant to shore up his political base in advance of 2012. A little of that old magic to remind them that he’s still “The One” for them.

    And here we find the Rosetta Stone that helps us decipher the Obama enigma: While representing himself as totally unconcerned about politics, he is in reality totally absorbed by politics. A huge budget deficit staring us down? Time is of the essence? A Republican leader in Paul Ryan who seems genuinely interested in figuring out a solution? Who cares! There’s an election in 18 months. An election, for goodness sake! Is anything more important?

  141. Interestingly, Drudge posting links showing Trump in supposedly contradictory statements from the past..

  142. borrowing from the SS fund by our government has created a perception that SS is broke when it’s actually been looted.

    ========
    To put m point another way: It hasn’t been looted yet. The looters are claiming it’s broke as an excsue to loot it.

  143. The IOU’s are coming due. Cutting or eliminating benefits is a sovereign default of debt owed to their own people. The Republicans, Democrats, Wall St and Obama will do anything in their power to obfuscate the federal government defaulting which is exactly what they intend to do.

    ===================

    Yes. It’s like borrowing money from someone, then trying to force him into bankruptcy rather than pay him back.

  144. democrat1
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    How come Obama is having 2 Social security numbers one from hawaii and another from Connecticut. Connecticut number belongs to another older person but being used by Obama. is it not identity theft?

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/show-us-the-money/#respond
    __________________________________________

    Check out the link I posted last night to debbieschlussel.com on the fraudulent selective service registration. It is a high grade analysis and the registration on file with selective service is a bad forgery.

    The guy is a fraud from top to bottom.

  145. Mourning Holbrooke, Clinton defends Taliban talks

    BERLIN: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday voiced understanding for talks with the Taliban as she mourned late diplomat Richard Holbrooke, an avid proponent of reconciliation in Afghanistan.

    At a memorial service, Clinton credited Holbrooke — who died unexpectedly at the age of 69 in December — with setting the troubled US relationships with Pakistan and Afghanistan on the right track as special envoy to the countries.

    “Those who found negotiations with the Taliban distasteful got a very powerful response from Richard — diplomacy would be easy if we only had to talk to our friends,” Clinton said at the American Academy in Berlin, which was co-founded by Holbrooke, a former ambassador to Germany.

    “And negotiating with your adversaries wasn’t a disservice to people who had died, if by talking you could prevent more violence,” Clinton said.

    Holbrooke was seen as the main force in President Barack Obama’s administration seeking a political deal in Afghanistan, despite calls by conservatives and the military to try to crush the Taliban insurgency.

    Obama has tripled the number of troops in Afghanistan to around 100,000 but his administration has also increasingly signalled it does not believe there is a military solution to the conflict.

    Clinton, while supporting the diplomatic push, made clear in talks Thursday with NATO foreign ministers that the United States would stay committed militarily in Afghanistan well beyond a July drawdown date originally set by Obama.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/15/mourning-holbrooke-clinton-defends-taliban-talks.html

  146. Clinton urges Russia transparency for treaty
    (AFP) – 5 hours ago

    BERLIN — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton voiced hope Friday for reviving a treaty with Russia on conventional weapons but insisted that Moscow be fully transparent on its military deployments.

    Russia suspended compliance in 2007 with the Conventional Forces in Europe treaty amid rising tension with the United States. But relations have improved since President Barack Obama took over, with the two sides sealing a landmark treaty on reducing nuclear arms.

    Clinton, meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, said an agreement on conventional weapons would follow up on the goodwill seen last year in Lisbon when President Dmitry Medvedev visited a NATO summit in Lisbon.

    “Nothing would advance the spirit of Lisbon like launching new negotiations to strengthen and modernise conventional arms control for the 21st century,” Clinton told Lavrov on the sidelines of NATO talks in Berlin.

    “But to get there, Russia must be willing to talk to its neighbours about its equipment and forces in disputed territories,” she said, according to the prepared remarks.

    “And in light of the extensive reorganisation of the Russian military over the last few years, it must be completely transparent about its military forces,” she said.

    The Conventional Forces in Europe, a key agreement at the end of the Cold War, was signed in 1990 in Paris and governed the deployment of weapons all the way from the Atlantic Ocean to the Ural Mountains. It was updated in 1999.

    But NATO countries refused to ratify the amended treaty until Russian troops withdraw from the ex-Soviet republics of Georgia and Moldova. The Western alliance said the deployment violated the deal, charges denied by Moscow.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiJ1d6D1okBhCCGCIja49JsUe6aw?docId=CNG.0c0e73fc7132745ad87c51b2202111ce.31

  147. SHOCK! Obama’s budget proposal relies 60 percent on higher taxes not 25% as WH claims (via Goldman Sachs)

    =====================

    Whatever he claims now, they’ll change the fine print to favor his donors in the end.

  148. Democrat1

    I laughed like crazy after seeing this ad at Pumas Unleashed
    ______________________________

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  149. #
    democrat1
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Now we have a complete fraud sitting in the Office of the President. Clearly the most corrupt, inexperienced, and ignorant President in the history of the United States who’s only quality is that he can lie with a straight face.

    Barry Soetoro is as much of a fraud as Bernie Madoff and his house of cards will soon fall down.

    Read

    http://nowewont.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-may-have-a-criminal-past
    ——–

    Holy Crap Cakes Batman, how much of this true??????????

    And if it is true, are there no members of the CIA or FBI that can also confirm this???????????

    Have they all been mainlining the Koolaid or is it just made up??

  150. Shadowfax
    April 15th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Holy Crap Cakes Batman, how much of this true??????????

    And if it is true, are there no members of the CIA or FBI that can also confirm this???????????

    Have they all been mainlining the Koolaid or is it just made up??
    ________________________________________

    The info about his fake SSN and forged selective service registration is true. The info about his whereabouts in September 1980 (e.g., Occidental) comes from Zero’s book. The rest of it is speculation.

  151. One more time. Follow this link – this is from 2008. Look at the analysis from a retired ICE agent from legally obtained through FOIA requests and simple online review with selective service website using Barry’s fake SSN which anyone can do. It is damning. I have heard something about this before, but never really looked into it until last night. There is a forged selective service regisration which purports to be created in September 1980 but is on a 2008 form.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions

  152. Shadowfax
    As someone who deals with a child daily I thank you all the way to outer space for “Holy Crap Cakes Batman”
    I have grown so weary of saying holy guacamole batgirl

    Tried to see Atlas Shrugged but missed the bus

  153. I’ve been seeing an awful lot of comments about Øbama and his “Jew handlers”. I am totally dumbfounded that people believe this. Any comments about this type of belief?

  154. blowme0bama
    April 15th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
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    I just got done finishing the link that you provided. Wow. Øbama needs to go, but those who also knew of this and allowed it to happen by protecting Øbama need to go, too. Those in government, business, or anyone else who helped perpetrate this fraud need to be arrested en masse, and brought to trial.

  155. Waiting for fake long form BC to show up in 3 … 2 … 1

    ===============

    That’s the next step.

    I just hope several of them show up, different.

  156. sample BCs from people who actually were born in HI in 1961.

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    Real ones should be pretty valuable.

  157. “But [it] creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii.”

    ================

    That’s re-shaping the issue. I expect the odds are he was born in Hawaii. But it’s worth noting that he’d handling the issue very badly. It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up….

  158. nomobama
    April 15th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    blowme0bama
    April 15th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    ===========================

    I just got done finishing the link that you provided. Wow. Øbama needs to go, but those who also knew of this and allowed it to happen by protecting Øbama need to go, too. Those in government, business, or anyone else who helped perpetrate this fraud need to be arrested en masse, and brought to trial.
    ___________________________________________

    I agree. It is plainly obvious that there has been some coverup here involving more than just the Obama campaign.

  159. it is near impossible for Obama to produce the Long Form Birth Certificate. The information contained on the long form is in such specific detail, it would be almost impossible for it to survive cross examination and be considered authentic and valid.

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    By “produce”, do you mean “forge”?

    If so, good points if he has no long form bc at all, or major changes would be needed. But if the embarrassing information is just a few details, that might be handled by forgery.

    Anyway, a forgery may be the next step: more confusion, and get some ‘experts’ to support it.

  160. it would be almost impossible for it to survive cross examination and be considered authentic and valid.”

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    Examination by who? As has been well said, “Who ya gonna call?”

  161. There is already an online copy of a long form BC from one of the Nordyke twins (who were born within 2 weeks of fraud’s birth at the hospital he was allegedly born at).

    He doesn’t have a long form BC, at least, not one issued by a hospital or a state agency within the United States.

  162. FYI Hawaii 4000 mi. from Japan. California 5000 mi. I think the important thing would to see the currents. Here in NorCal there was some radiation in our dairy cows milk (Ferndale) after Chernobyl. I suspect that will be the case again.

  163. The last time Hillary said, “No! No! No!” She wouldn’t run or be in politics again………..

    On some level we all believed her, or we wouldn’t even care about Trump possibly running right now.

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    Well, I don’t necessrily believe that’s final. But 2012 is very unlikely for Hillary so Trump2012, like Palin2012, might lead to Hillary 2016.

  164. HOT OFF THE PRESSES:
    OBAMA TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP ASKING HIM ABOUT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE

    What’s he worried about?

    A smarter politician wouldn’t step in the trap.

    news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/obama-says-birther-talk-will-be-a-liability-for-gop

    Obama says ‘birther’ talk will be a liability for GOP
    ==================

    Fri Apr 15, 9:11 am ET
    By Rachel Rose Hartman

    In a rare move, President Obama directly addressed “birther” conspiracies Thursday, suggesting that presidential candidates who’ve decided to entertain the theories may find themselves in electoral trouble.

    Obama told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that most general election voters are not “birthers,” people who question Obama’s birthplace of Hawaii:

    I think that over the last two and a half years there’s been an effort to go at me in a way that is politically expedient in the short-term for Republicans. But [it] creates, I think, a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was–in Hawaii. He–he doesn’t have horns…we’re not really worrying about conspiracy theories or–or birth certificates.

    Obama added that most people are more concerned about the economy and candidates who provide solutions to the nation’s fiscal woes than about questioning the president’s birthplace.

    The president and his administration have largely avoided weighing in on “birther” talk.

    But that doesn’t seem to be the new strategy.

    Last night, Obama took a jab at “birthers” during his appearance at a Chicago fundraiser saying, “I wasn’t born here–just want to be clear … I was born in Hawaii,” he said to audience laughter and applause. “But I became a man here in Chicago.”

    He similarly made light of the controversy in front of another Democratic audience last month, saying: “I think there’s nothing–there’s no weakness in us trying to reach out and seeing if we can find common ground. Now, there are going to be times where we can’t. I was born in Hawaii, what can I say? I mean, I just … I can’t change those facts.”

  165. Someone said that Huckabee joked about should he show HIS BC. I think whenever anyone asks that question, lots of voices should say YES!

    ==================

    Better they should all shout: “Long form! Long form!”

  166. ‘we don’t want to embarrass people by requiring their birth certificates as it shows a cultural insensitivity or some such nonsense.”

    You could be on to something. The dims are so desperate they’ll try anything, including last week’s accusations tht repubs were killing women, BPO’s comments that Ryan’s plan will cut off medicare for 50 million seniors and kids with disabilities.

    No mention anywhere in the MSM that since BO took office the debt hads almost doubled from around $10 trillion to over $14 trillion. No mention of the way the dims brazenly splurged on every friggin thing they wanted and now they want the taxpayers on the hook for the extra $4 trill. I think that was the purpose all along. Not to get out of a financial crisis but to sink the US into an even bigger one for reasons which I am sure are not going to be beneficial to us..

    I don’t know about everyone else but today I paid $4.10 a gallon for gas. My taxes (which I pay yearly) have gone up to almost $13G. I just paid the bill. And the IRS just sent me a letter claiming I owe another $700 from last year. Where the F**K do they think people are going to get the money? It is outrageous. (sorry for the rant. I’m sure everyone else is tying themselves into knots about their tax bill).

    But it pisses me the hell off that we are paying blood money into that POS’s coffers.

  167. The SCOTUS may feel this argument will open a Pandora’s Box which because of public outcry supporting Obama’s position, they will feel forced to change the Constitutional requirement of NBC as a prerequisite for a candidate for the US Presidency. Thus allowing foreign born citizens running for the office of the presidency (just because they took the case!)

    ================

    Not just public outcry, but also that the Bush-Obama SC wants to keep Obama-the-DINO in office. But they don’t want to set a precedent, as you say.

    If any other borderline-foreign candidates come along, the SC would want to be able to support or eliminate each one separately, on some different technicality.

  168. democrat1
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Much as that article intrigues me there is no attribution for the author.

  169. Mr. Obama bemoaned GOP leaders’ attempts to attach a measure to the budget bill which would have cut funding for Planned Parenthood.

    “Put it in a separate bill,” the president said he told Boehner and his staff. “We’ll call it up. And if you think you can overturn my veto, try it. But don’t try to sneak this through.”

    In the end, the deal that was struck did see the Planned Parenthood measure, and a separate effort to defund parts of the health care program, voted on as stand-alone bills Thursday prior to the budget vote. Both measures failed in the Senate.

    ===============

    Hm? This claims Obama actually said and did something decent….

  170. basil9
    April 15th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Much as that article intrigues me there is no attribution for the author.

    —————

    This was posted by Rick Perry on his blog No We Won’T.

    The author remains anonymous for obvious reasons

  171. democrat1,

    Yes, I understand the author’s anonymity but I can’t put that much stock in something, no matter how much I’d like to believe it’s true, without some proof about the source.

  172. Fascinating article on Trump. (IMHO)

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/that_donald_trump_is_pretty_sh.htmlThat Donald Trump Is Pretty Shrewd

    By Kyle-Anne Shiver

    Well, I don’t even pretend to know everything there is to know about Donald Trump, but from what I’ve seen over the past several weeks, I can easily declare that that man is one pretty shrewd guy. “The Donald,” as I’ve heard him referred to by businessmen I know, hasn’t amassed a fortune as a builder/developer/real-estate tycoon without knowing precisely how to acquire the land he seeks, how to demolish any existing buildings and how he plans to develop the property into another golden chunk of Trumpland.

    Now that we can pretty well assume Mr. Trump is running for president, it’s obvious that he has done a prerequisite full survey of Obamaland. He has, as all successful builders are wont to do, gotten the plans of the existing structure and knows precisely which cornerstone and support beams are holding President Obama’s house upright. And as any truly great builder would, Trump has carefully, critically, logically listed every risk/benefit ratio of every strategy we now see him publicly employing.

    Every time Donald Trump attacks a piece of the Obama narrative to a dumbfounded interviewer, he knows exactly what he is doing. He has considered the risk beforehand and calculated its rewards. He knows the media is most vulnerable because early on in 2008, the collective media declared these Obama truth-searches out of bounds for respectable people, who were obliged (in the media elitists’ minds) to give Obama’s blackness all benefit of doubt in every instance. For nearly three full years now, the media has held its locked grip on every tidbit of missing or discordant information regarding the Obama narrative and are now shocked — shocked, I tell you — that anyone would dare to broach these media-deemed taboo subjects.

    John McCain accepted these media-imposed, stacked-deck rules and the rest is history.

    But Donald Trump is no John McCain. Donald Trump is a great American entrepreneur. And he is the quintessential builder/developer.

    I’ve a great deal of respect for builders. I grew up in a family of them. And even as a child, I delighted in just listening to these men deliberate over whether to take on a new development project. The problem-set of each individual undertaking was immense and I loved observing how the builders never, ever allowed problems to take them by surprise if they could possibly help it beforehand. To this end, they each played devil’s advocate on every detail — from how hard and expensive it might be to acquire the land, to how formidable the permit obstacles might be, to how much it would cost to demolish existing structures.

    In my mind, as I grew older, I began to believe that these brothers were successful builders not due to any great vision or design skills they possessed, but because of their ruthless willingness to preemptively tear their own plans apart if they could not determine feasible solutions to every conceivable problem in advance — before the first penny was ever laid down upon the banker’s table.

    I think Americans can be fairly certain at this point in Donald Trump’s presidential bid that he knows precisely which beams in the Obama-built house are providing the only support this president has. In poll after poll after poll, actual Obama policies have the approval of only about one fourth to a third of the American people.

  173. If you look at the pic of him at that Chicago event, notice the first few rows filled with woman who are extremely excited to be so close to him..sort of like the women who would go up to Elvis and kiss him or wipe his face with a hanky….it is still infuriating how many women betrayed Hillary to vote for this “rock star”.

  174. turndownobama
    April 15th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    borrowing from the SS fund by our government has created a perception that SS is broke when it’s actually been looted.

    ========
    To put m point another way: It hasn’t been looted yet. The looters are claiming it’s broke as an excsue to loot it.
    ***************************
    Just to set the record straight, the original sentence you quote above saying that SS has been looted not broke was my sentence. You picked up and expanded on it several times, but I wrote it. LOL

  175. What has Obama done so far?
    Posted on April 15, 2011 by JWS

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/what-has-obama-done-so-far/#more-3102

    Killed between 300-500 civilians in Pakistan.

    Caved on the public option.

    Caved on Bush tax cut repeal

    Flip flopped on KSM trial

    Flip flopped on rendition.

    Flip flopped on Egypt.

    Flip flopped on the debt ceiling.

    Watched sublimly as gas prices have risen 100%.

    Wildly missed the mark on unemployment figures

    Exploded the deficit.

    Libya: too many ways to count.

    Appointed a corporate stooge as 2012 campaign manager.

    Insulted the Special Olympics.

    Appointed G.E. douchebag to head employment panel

    Infested his White House with Goldman Sachs vermin

    Forced Americans – for the first time – to buy a product from a private corporation.

    Held secret meetings with health care/drug corporate titans.

    Flip Flopped wildly on the Patriot Act

    Now imagine what the Obama apologists would be doing if W did any of the above

  176. You picked up and expanded on it several times, but I wrote it. LOL

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    Ya. Good sentence, worth repeating. “My point” was my several expansions.

  177. crazy horse
    April 15th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    FYI Hawaii 4000 mi. from Japan. California 5000 mi.
    ________________

    Just curious- Thanks crazy horse!

  178. He doesn’t have a long form BC, at least, not one issued by a hospital or a state agency within the United States.

    ==============

    That’s the most likely explanation. Maybe he really can’t show it because it doesn’t exist.

    Though that doesn’t mean he was really born somewhere else.

  179. The info about his fake SSN and forged selective service registration is true.

    ==================

    This sort of issue is unrealistic not because it’s untrue (who knows?) but because nobody knows and nobody cares.

  180. turndownobama
    April 15th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
    The info about his fake SSN and forged selective service registration is true.

    ==================

    This sort of issue is unrealistic not because it’s untrue (who knows?) but because nobody knows and nobody cares.
    ___________________________________________

    Guess I’m missing it then. A President using a fakeass SSN and in 2008 forging a draft registration is pretty big to me. Guess I’m a kook.

  181. A President using a fakeass SSN and in 2008 forging a draft registration is pretty big to me.

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    If it were proved beyond argument that this happened and none of it was just snafu and Obama himself knew and did it all (as some charges against Nixon were — ie accepted by high courts and press and even his own party), then it might be important to some people. But to get any of it accepted — as said, Who ya gonna call?

    The kind of evidence we can get now about things like that is just not credible to most people. One blogger says Kenya, another says Canada. Different documents are called forgeries by different people. There’s just too much craziness and confusion.

    There are too many other possible causes for SSN and form snafus — including forgery by some anti-Obama people. And research at sites along with anti-Muslim and anti-global warming stuff doesn’t help credibility either.

  182. I should have said: “There are too many other possible causes for APPARENT SSN and registration form discrepancies, including forgeries by anti-Obama people — and ordinary snafus.”

  183. turndownobama
    April 15th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    I should have said: “There are too many other possible causes for APPARENT SSN and registration form discrepancies, including forgeries by anti-Obama people — and ordinary snafus.
    _______________________________________

    There’s no ordinary (or extraordinary) snafu on that selective services registration form. Its a forgery by O, or anti-O.

  184. urndownobama
    April 15th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    He doesn’t have a long form BC, at least, not one issued by a hospital or a state agency within the United States.

    ==============

    That’s the most likely explanation. Maybe he really can’t show it because it doesn’t exist.

    Though that doesn’t mean he was really born somewhere else.
    __________________________________

    Correct. But it means there’s a governmental coverup involving lying Hawaiian officials who undoubtedly were acting at the request of someone.

  185. But it means there’s a governmental coverup involving lying Hawaiian officials who undoubtedly were acting at the request of someone.

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    Or there’s a real long form with embarrassing details that the officials didn’t notice (or didn’t understand the implications of) or kept quiet about.

    IN which case, at some point the embarrassment of public outcry will outweigh the embarrassment of whatever is on the long form. Or they’ll release a forgery with only the few embarrassing details changed, which the officials can pretend not to notice.

  186. selective services registration form. Its a forgery by O, or anti-O.

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    Which gets us nowhere. The bots could accuse the anti-O’s of forging … any evidence that turns up, really.

  187. New York court system to lay-off up to 500 employees to close a $10 million budget gap

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/15/us-newyork-courts-layoffs-idUSTRE73E81H20110415

    The New York State court system will lay-off as many as 500 workers in the coming weeks, according to a union memo released on Friday, as the state works to close a $10 billion budget gap.

    New York state lawmakers recently passed a spending plan for fiscal year 2012 that includes across-the-board cuts to state agencies.

    New York is not alone. Many cash-strapped states across the United States have been firing workers, delaying big building projects and raising taxes after the 2008 recession and financial crisis left state coffers severely depleted.

    David Bookstaver, a spokesman for the court system, confirmed that layoffs are in the works but said it’s too early to tell how many jobs — or which ones — will be lost.

    “In the next two or three weeks we’ll have a firm understanding of numbers,” Bookstaver said.

    New York is not alone in slashing expenses in its court system. Connecticut’s top judge on Friday testified at a budget hearing that a proposed 10 percent cut to that state’s court system could result in layoffs and courthouse closings.

    Cuomo, a Democrat, has threatened 9,800 layoffs if public employee unions do not concede $450 million in savings from wages and benefits.

    The New York state memo, prepared by the Civil Service Employees Association, says that no decisions have been made regarding what positions would be eliminated.

    The court system currently has 15,350 employees, not including judges.

    The cuts follow tense budget talks. After Governor Andrew Cuomo publicly criticized the court administration for proposing to hold spending flat, the court system agreed to a $100 million cut, but lost an additional $70 million in the final week of budget talks.

    A Cuomo spokesman was not immediately available to comment on the CSEA memo, which says that some layoff notices could be sent out as early as next week, and would be effective May 4.

    The freshman governor this week announced an accord with a relatively small law enforcement union, including a three-year wage freeze and increased health care contributions. But the state’s two largest unions said that they rejected those proposals.

    In a video message last month, State Court of Appeals Chief Judge Jonathan Lippman said that the budget cuts would have “an unprecedented impact on the court system.”

    “The impact of our reduced budget will hurt our ability to serve all New Yorkers, in particular those who come to our courts seeking justice,” Lippman said.

    The judge went on to warn of a “significant number of layoffs across a broad range of operations,” as well as cuts to legal aid, town and village courts and mediation.

  188. Pres Obama says he signed the budget bill despite “strong objection:” to provisions barring his transfer of detainees from Guantanamo.

    Did anyone have a clue that was in there. Thats what Obama got annoyed about in the budget?, seriously WTF.

  189. lol, Despite those objections, Pres Obama says he signed the bill to avoid a lapse in funding for the Govt, including the military.

    Oh get down off the cross honey, someone else needs the wood.

  190. Oh get him, arrogance abound

    In a written signing statement, Pres. Obama says he’ll ignore a provision to eliminate so-called ‘czar’ positions in his Administration.

    Pres Obama said that anti-“czar” provision violates the separation of powers and will be deemed “not to abrogate” presidential prerogatives.

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  191. I think the Red Stater is right. Conservatives need to get that a Repub House and Senate plus Huckabee or Christie will not happen. Hegemony stinks, regardless of party. I see nothing that makes Romney look like a winner. Hillary, Palin, McCain have all grown their profiles since 2008. But Romney?

    Obama’s strategy is to elevate himself from poison to gruel. He’ll win if the election is boring — and if the alternative is another Bush-style alignment, that’s no better than Obama-Pelosi. Now, Republican Congress and Trump, I like that chemistry.

  192. Y’know, we’re really coming downhill in coverups.

    FDR covered up his wheel chair, with full press cooperation.
    Nixon, burglaries and other crimes.
    Clinton, blow job.
    Obama, birth cert problems.

  193. He’ll win if the election is boring

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    Imo more likely to win against a colorful GOP like Palin or Trump. Bots might not come out to vote FOR Obama, but could come out to vote AGAINST a demonized GOP woman or white man.

  194. Right heres one for the flip flop books

    During his presidential campaign, then-Senator Obama was quite critical of the Bush administration’s uses of signing statements telling the Boston Globe in 2007 that the “problem” with the Bush administration “is that it has attached signing statements to legislation in an effort to change the meaning of the legislation, to avoid enforcing certain provisions of the legislation that the President does not like, and to raise implausible or dubious constitutional objections to the legislation.”

    Then-Sen. Obama said he would “not use signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law.”

    I guess he lied again for convenience.

  195. He negotiated for this to be in there and now he wants to ignore it, you hear that GOP, what you negotiate, Obama will simply ignore anyway when passed, you hear that loud and clear, now, right?

    You cannot trust him at all, he just lied to your face.

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