Fibya – The Obama Speech In-Between Vacations And Golf

The clown prince of boobery is taking a break from vacations and golf tonight. Tonight (7:30) is a publicity stunt night. Call it Fibya.

It’s not going to be a fun night for someone who rather be president of China because presidentin’ the good ol’ USA be a hard job. It’s not an easy job when the Black Panthers are calling you the “N” word and telling lantern jawed Michelle Obama to kick your ass to the curb.



When you’ve lost your very own race-baiting Black Panthers

It is a kindness to say that Barack Obama did not want to talk Libya. Obama has not really consulted with anyone in congress. Ya got a lot of ‘splaining to do Barack:

“So when Obama takes the stage at the National Defense University at Fort McNair on Monday evening, there is a sense of urgency that he make an airtight case for his decision to intervene in Libya — and skeptics and supporters alike will also be looking for an endgame.”

Barack won’t be ‘splaining from the Oval Office:

“An address from the Oval Office has at least three problems for President Obama. Among other things, it implies the nation is at war — and if there is one thing the administration is rather emphatic about, it’s that we are involved in a limited military action in Libya, not a war.

The president also is not great in an Oval address — few are. Tense and alone at the Resolute desk, reading off a teleprompter into a network camera while a few staffers and TV crew stand silently by — it’s an isolating, airless moment that does not always convey confidence.

There is also an unfortunate Saturday Night Live effect, with frankly unavoidable visual references to Fred Armisen. Not a winner for the White House, although obviously of minor concern.

“The Oval Office calls to mind too many other images,” said Stephen Hess, a presidential scholar at the Brookings Institution. “When you are going to war, you do the Oval — if you claim it’s not a war, you don’t.”

Obama tonight heads to National Defense University, a facility in Southwest Washington that provides higher education for the military. It’s a good spot — presidents use it from time to time as a backdrop for military-themed addresses. But it’s also not without potential problems.”

During the 2008 campaign Obama promised he would not sign laws until after they were up for public discussion for days. That promise was never kept. But one would have thought that his happy Hopium gobblers would have been told about war before war.

Tonight’s speech comes very late. Obama was on vacation in Rio. Maybe he’ll “splain tonight:

“But until now, Obama had resisted calls to formally articulate the underlying principles, goals and endgame for his seemingly spur-of-the-moment commitment of U.S. forces to combat operations in the North African country. He agreed to make a nationally-televised speech Monday night at the National Defense University in Washington only under pressure from critics, on the left and right, and only after the U.S. officially handed off command and control responsibility to NATO.

What he has to do in the speech, according to Paul Begala, a longtime adviser to former President Bill Clinton, is clear: provide a “rationale — why we are involved…; a strategy — why burden-sharing is better than going it alone; and a path to success — what is victory? How and when do we disengage?”

What can the few viewers who tune in for tonight’s publicity stunt expect? In one word: Fibya.

Don’t expect much. Expect fibs about Libya and how brilliant he is. Fibya.

On Libya expect Fibya.

From Obama it’s always Fibya.

Share

356 thoughts on “Fibya – The Obama Speech In-Between Vacations And Golf

  1. He is good at delivering sermons that rally the troop, he is not good at explaining anything, because he does not think he has too.

  2. Admin: WOW! That’s some kind of video….great article and spot on….the lies they keep coming….the last time I’ve seen Obama…he looks like he’s lost more weight….that coke is taking it off him….

  3. The White House just released a text of the president’s remarks at National Defense University. How long? 3,386 words.

    eurgh……………

  4. lol

    3 minutes…3,apply hair dye; 2. apply blue lipstick; 1. get your best bs face on! That’s the ticket!

  5. evacuated….not until the last bloody minute, when the shit hit the fan after everyone else had. even the turks got 25000 out before you did.

  6. moon, he does that ALL the time – has to keep reminding everyone that he is the president, the commander in chief, etc. It’s a tic with him – shows his narcissistic insecurity.

  7. er noooooooooooooo, you joined in after the french, british and Hillary twisted your arm behind your back.

  8. Who knew that BO or MO read Big Pink! He must have heard us commenting about his “tennis headed” speeches.

    NOW…BO is actually stopping occassionally in the center and looking at the camera for a second or so.

    Surely he heard us!

  9. i’m guessing 3rd teleprompter in the middle.

    I wanna be clear, mark it off on your bingo card.

  10. Can someone explain to me why the make-up guy thought the silver-blue eye shadow up to his eyebrows might make him look “presidential”?

  11. You are right…it looks like a third tellie! Now some poor stage grip is going to have to lug around three instead of two.

    If BO listened to us at Big Pink about his speeches, hope he read the part about RESIGNING as soon as possible.

  12. Obama has discussed everything in sing-songy unicorn and rainbow storybook terms, conjuring up all sorts of things, yet has evaded all issues of legality or national security.

  13. “As President I refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.”

    You were late to that party love.

  14. The american people will not get the jist of this, it will go right over their heads, its bull after bull.

  15. Moon, the blue/silver eye shadow is to send us a subliminal message. BO is coordinated, organized…his eyeshadow was chosen to match his lips.

  16. He’s completely and totally vindicating President George W. Bush with every single word tonight!

  17. oh here comes the “i’m commander and chief” again.

    No-one believes you Barack to be a strong military leader. ooh he got Al Qaeda in, Iraq.

  18. In one sentence, we can sum this speech up….

    Obama: Look, I realize none of you understand my decision making, but at the end of the day, you can rest easy knowing I’m right.

  19. He basically told that nutjob in Libya we can’t do this for the long haul (in other words “hang in there..”).

  20. CNN

    Blitzer concludes that the Obama Doctrine is whenever any country has problems going on, we can bomb the hell out of them.

  21. Speaker Boehner’s spokesman: helpful Americans heard from Commander in Chief, “Unfortunately…waited a long time to get few new answers”

    Boehner spokesman says “Americans still have no answer to the fundamental question: what does success in Libya look like?”

    Marc Ambinder (shocked) : By the way, Obama seems to be saying that the US will not act to overthrow Assad, the Iranian mullahs, etc, under almost any circumstances.

  22. lol, best quote

    Regardless of our political beliefs, surely we can all agree that President Bush has never sounded more eloquent tonight.

  23. So, he now decrees that he doesn’t need congressional approval to farm out the US military to UN control.

    IMPEACH, plz.

  24. Glad I missed his stinker of a speech. I really find it difficult to listen to this guy. I don’t like the tone of his voice, his insincerity, his waffling, and his smarminess. Ugh.

  25. Dang, missed the entire Fibya speech…hotdamn!

    Great post admin and to moon and Big Pinkers that blogged the OFib.

    Barry wearing silvery eye shadow again, to make his lips appear pink or to show he learned something from his male nanny?


    Before the BigFibya, I fully expected the smelly BO to walk the Big Dawg out on the stage with him, look at his watch and say Bill would have to take over the speech since his mama was waiting for him.

  26. Thanks moononpluto and everyone else who blogged the speech.

    I just got home so I didn’t have to listen to it.

  27. That being that, it still was a compliment from a conservative site and well deserved I might add.

    ===============================

    In context, and considering HOW the expression was first applied to Hillary — I think it’s great! It’s making fun of the men.

    If you want to be serious, maybe we need a gender-neutral word for
    ‘ovaries/testicles as symbol of courage and strength’. Maybe the word ‘cojones’ is starting to fill that gap.

    WAsn’t it Cargill who said “If Hillary gave one of her cajones to Obama, then they’d both have two?” Of course even that is crediting Obama unduly.

  28. Shadowfax
    March 28th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    I would never vote for Gingrich, either. I will never forget what he did to BC in the 1990’s.

    ———
    That makes three of us

    ============

    Four.

  29. . Julie Menin, chairwoman of Community Board 1, told the New York Post:: ‘It’s appropriate to have a mix of diverse organizations as a part of the lower Manhattan community. We want it to reflect the melting pot that is America.’
    […]
    Board members at the Anne Frank Center said they had no problem about a mosque so close to their proposed museum.

    ==================

    Nice to see some sanity though it is buried in an article that seems to imply that the Third Reich was Muslim?!?

    Imagine if someone had said they “had no problem with a Jewish temple so close” to a non-Jewish museum?

  30. Shadowfax
    March 28th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    I would never vote for Gingrich, either. I will never forget what he did to BC in the 1990’s.

    ———
    That makes three of us

    ============

    Four.
    *******
    Five

    Gingrich is smarter and better educated than Obama but both share the same level of honesty and integrity…..Zippo

    Here’s Newtie pandering to the right wing fundie theocratic wackos at Rev. Hagee’s Cornerstone Mega-fundie church:

    “”I have two grandchildren: Maggie is 11; Robert is 9,” Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church here. “I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they’re my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American.”

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/gingrich-fears-atheist-country-dominated-by-radical-islamists/?hpt=C2

    How the F*ck can a country be a “Secular Atheist Country”….dominated by Radical Islamists????

  31. and its goodnight from me, I’m off to have dreams about repeatedly wiping that smug grin off the unicorn humpers face.

  32. This will smart…..et tu Snowe.

    Snowe: “President Obama failed to answer the question of how our current involvement in Libya will end.”

  33. PS.
    Imagine if someone had said they “had no problem with a Jewish temple so close” to a non-Jewish museum?

    This would fit right along with “Some of my best friends are ___ but I wouldn’t want them to have a church next to my museum.”

  34. A brilliant inspiring transcendental speech by the WMN. Unfortunately, it satisfies no one and it leaves more unanswered questions than when he started. Personally, I resent bringing race into the equation as the NBP spokesman did. I would prefer to call him simply a global capitalist shill and the golden calf of big media. Now that we have engaged in that battle we must win. Anything less than total victory will be perceived by the world as another US defeat in a time and place where we need to preserve our deterrent capabilities. The fig leaf of UN support cannot disabuse the world of the notion that this is a US war. But that was the risk we took however when we jumped into this civil war. Time will tell whether it was an improvident one. The test is not taking out Gadafi–that will happen within a short period. The test is what comes next.

  35. How the F*ck can a country be a “Secular Atheist Country”….dominated by Radical Islamists????
    ————————–
    Do you not think secular atheism is a religion?

  36. My 88 YO friend – who has lived through the Great Depression, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam and more said

    “Why does he have to go on and on?”

    and switched to CSI

  37. I completely forgot about O’s speech since it was early this time and not in prime time. Unfortunately, I tuned in in time to catch some of CNN’s post speech nonsense about how effective it was. Other than that, it was a good day.

    PJ Crowley was on Fox tv earlier today and is now on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Apparently, he landed on his feet.

  38. Well, Bill O’ said it was a wonderful speech, his guests Mary Catherine Hamm and Juan Williams agreed, what more do we want? Obozo’s job is done!

  39. I will say one thing for mainstream Republicans: when the bugle blows, they salute the flag faster than a bunch of dirty old men at a burlesque show, and they manage to find virtue in any war we are dragged into. And they believe that old lie: dulce et decorum est pro patria mori–sweet is it to die for ones country.

  40. Watching Hannity for the first time in MONTHS. Bob Beckle looks very ill. Like Timmeh Russert did…..before he met his maker.

  41. O’reilly is for O’reilly, makes sense why he’s such a waffles fan, they both have the same arrogant trait.

  42. Donald Trump is on CNN slamming our going into Libya. But he says if we have to do it, it should have been sooner.

  43. Well, Bill O’ said it was a wonderful speech, his guests Mary Catherine Hamm and Juan Williams
    ———————-
    Pretty words to cover up the torturous and protracted process by which a decision was reached. Vague emanations of where we go from here. Time will tell whether it was right to attack Libya. Does anyone know who the rebels are, and what they would do when Gadafi is overthrown? If past is prologue, Obama and his minions have not thought that far ahead. This is not unprecedented. When Heinz Guderian’s tanks rolled over France and reached the English Channel, he wired back to Berlin what do we do now. Crickets from Keitel and the high command. No one had thought that far ahead.

  44. Not only WAS BillO anti Clinton…he still IS anti Clinton and takes every opportunity to nail her while sucking up to BO.

    YUCK! YUCK! YUCK! Two Creeps!

  45. wbboei

    did you hear Trump’s interview on Fox today, he slammed Waffles and openly said he has doubts about Waffles, bluntly said, not born in America? cannot be president.

    I don’t know how to embed videos, but if you go to foxnews.com, go under the videos tab to see that clip, he was very precise in his words.
    I’m curious what you think about this latest thing by Trump.

  46. Well, Bill O’ said it was a wonderful speech…


    Oh what a shock, guess this earns him another interview.

  47. parts from Obozo’s speech. How nice how nicely he has wiggled out of his empty pronouncement ‘Gaddafi must go’ but don’t expect him to do anything.. whatever ‘pursuing it through non-military means’ means. Maybe he will send his buddies Wright and Farrakan as his envoys and sweet talk Gaddafi to leave his cushy perch voluntarily. Or now that the famous speech is made, and Obozo has explained himself, Gaddafi will leave.

    Of course, there is no question that Libya — and the world — will be better off with Gadhafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal, and will actively pursue it through non-military means. But broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake….

    If we tried to overthrow Gadhafi by force, our coalition would splinter. We would likely have to put U.S. troops on the ground, or risk killing many civilians from the air. The dangers faced by our men and women in uniform would be far greater. So would the costs, and our share of the responsibility for what comes next.

  48. Trump saying OPEC is laughing at us about the price of oil which they are setting. He says there is so much oil on ships on the ocean that they don’t know what to do with. Yes, I thing the Donald is running for prez.

  49. Donald Trump is on CNN slamming our going into Libya. But he says if we have to do it, it should have been sooner.
    ——————————————
    Amen on both accounts. Let us pray.

    The third point: since we have gone in there is no substitute for victory. (See above).

    God damn it to hell–During the eighteenth century, Britain grew into an empire on which the sun never set by avoiding being pulled into continental wars which sapped the treasure and vitality of other nations.

    The United States grew into a global power in the first half of the twentieth century by avoiding–or postponing entry into wars that sapped the treasures of Europe and the flower of their youth.

    And Red China is growing into a military and economic power by waiting on the sidelines, and watching morons like Bush and wmn Obama throw us into wars that sap our economy and our vitality as a nation.

    And that is why Trump alone is right. I do not think he is a Republican and he is certainly not a dimocrat. He is an American. In the words of Kipling east is east and west is west and ner the twain shall meet. Amen again.

  50. “Do you not think secular atheism is a religion?”
    ********
    Could be, in the same sense that Scientology is a “religion”. I guess that I am put off by the the juxtaposition of Atheism with Radical Islam. Since Newt converted to the Roman Catholic Church, his statement makes as much sense as me saying the the next Pope will be elected by the Rabbinical Council in Israel. Newt was just pushing buttons in peoples mid-brain.

  51. So in a nutshell, Obozo is saying he is not Bush and insults Bush by repeatedly saying he will not do what Bush did and the Republicans are happy?!

  52. Donald Trump and Anthony Weiner get into a pissing match on CNN over NYC and their respective popularity there.

  53. pm317
    March 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    wtf?? I’ve read that paragraph 4 or 5 times, it makes no sense. I’ll give Bush credit, at least he said bluntly Saddam Hussein will be killed & then had operations to do just that, what the hell is Waffles even saying? NATO is headed by a US commander, the entire operation is led by American, the world knows that, so Gaddaffy must go, but we won’t do it, yet we will still use the US military to bomb his army, etc.
    so what the hell are we doing? either bomb him to get rid of him or don’t. What will happen if gaddaffy stays, how long do americans stay in this, until gadaffy leaves? and then do we leave? or do we help these rebels, who have said there are al-queda links to them, now rebuild Libya?

    one of my collegues is a former marine, said something to the effect military operations are like surgical operations, specific purpose has to be known going in before the operation itself is started on.

  54. Shadow – i think he looks sick. He has grown a LOT heavier and he is all puffy, red and sweaty.

  55. Now Donald Trump will be on Greta and I think she said he will show his bc. Sarah Palina also on Greta now talking about the speech.

  56. I bettcha that mainstream Retughs hate that Trump will run. Trump can pull in folks that don’t like the BoyKing nor any religious right hypocrites.

    Because of Bush, we ended up with the cheating Barry.

    Because of Barry, we may end up with Trump.

    While the well earned and deserving Hillary may give up on her party and never run for office again.

  57. I think Trump is running, and I’m appaulding him, if the far far right ideologues cannot understand that Trump can actually win, then they are stupider than I thought.

  58. wbboei
    March 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    Does anyone know who the rebels are, and what they would do when Gadafi is overthrown?
    _____________________________________

    Run down and kill Kadaffi supporters? Ooops, a new humanitarian crisis!

  59. “History is not on Quadaffi’s side”

    No, Barry, the man is like a cockroach, he survived Reagan bombing him, he has survived as a dictator for 42 years!, almost double of Mubarack. The chances are good he will survive this.

  60. im
    March 28th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    pm317
    March 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    wtf?? I’ve read that paragraph 4 or 5 times, it makes no sense. I’ll give Bush credit, at least he said bluntly Saddam Hussein will be killed & then had operations to do just that, what the hell is Waffles even saying? NATO is headed by a US commander, the entire operation is led by American, the world knows that, so Gaddaffy must go, but we won’t do it, yet we will still use the US military to bomb his army, etc.
    so what the hell are we doing? either bomb him to get rid of him or don’t.
    _____________________________________________

    The fucktard is all over the map with this stupid-assed speech of his – he’s trying to appease all elements of the coalition as well as the internationalists while blowing a mist of overarching rhetoric.

    By any non-sycophantic measure, the speech was TERRIBLE.

  61. Can’t stand the sound of BO’s voice, so I skipped the speech. Instead of delivering yet another blathering and narcissistic speech he should have just said “winning!” and called it a night.

  62. Finally, I caught the Donald on Greta. He is fired up and shooting with both guns. Wow.

    The entire phone interview was great, he was on fire.

  63. Opinion
    MICHAEL GOODWIN: The Obama Doctrine Is All About Obama
    By Michael Goodwin

    Published March 28, 2011
    | New York Post
    Print Email Share Comments (128) Text Size As the first Tomahawk mis siles rained on Libya, armchair generals rushed to define “The Obama Doctrine.” Most assess ments focused on Obama’s antiwar statements as a candidate and decisions by past presidents to take military action in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan.

    All fair game — except the conclusions were flawed. No discussion of Obama’s view of a just war is complete unless it examines the impact of his magical thinking.

    By that I mean his supreme confidence in his own vision and powers to remake the world. Fueled by a mixture of hubris and faculty-lounge idealism, his words and actions suggest he believes his presidency is exempt from the lessons of history and human nature.

    Just as he claimed his election would mark “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal,” his wars defy traditional military doctrine. For example, his approach in Libya, as in Afghanistan, features a promise of timed withdrawal, but not a clear mission. In both he talks of “success” but not “victory,” leaving the yardstick vague. The refusal to be precise reflects a belief that his intentions are virtuous, as distinct from his predecessors’, and that he should be judged on that basis, not on results. His goal in Libya is so abstract that he refuses to call it a “war.” That would make it sound brutal — and ordinary.

    We thus meet the term “kinetic military action” as a White House talking point.

    Despite the endless slogs in Iraq and Afghanistan, and despite objections from Defense Secretary Robert Gates and other brass, the president was confident that Libya would be easy in, easy out and that a civil war in an oil-rich tribal nation would be settled in days. After bypassing Congress and the public to cut a deal at the United Nations, we could fire missiles from ships at sea, drop bombs from 40,000 feet and be home in time for dinner.

    It would be so surgical, the commander in chief could take his family on a trip to Brazil and points south while the military went into battle. We wouldn’t need a single boot on the ground and could hand command to NATO or France or anybody who wanted it.

    Meanwhile, after 42 years in power, a brutal and mad Muammar Qaddafi would see our righteousness, lay down his weapons and quit his throne.

    Presto. That’s how a just war should end, and this time it would — because of Obama.

    That, I submit, is the real “Obama Doctrine.”

    That doctrine is not disturbed by the nagging war-gaming questions of “what if.” As in, what if Qaddafi refuses to quit? What if he does quit — what is our plan for Libya? What if Islamists turn it into a safe haven?

    Most of Obama’s foreign policy is the fruit of the same poisoned tree. The laws of diplomacy were supposed to bend before his transforming breeze. Only they haven’t cooperated.

    The hot spots are growing, and in exchange for apologies and accommodations, we get more aggression. Not a single new ally has been recruited to our side.

    Old friends are dispirited while adversaries such as Iran are emboldened. The “reset” with Russia and the Muslim world turns out to be another word for “retreat.”

    Despite the era, the challenges for every president are fundamentally similar: Secure America and promote the common good under the laws of the land.

    Or, in the words of the presidential oath, “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God.”

    It’s a remarkably concise and direct pledge, demanding only dedication and integrity and a faith in the Almighty. Luck helps, too.

    But belief in the magical powers of History’s Great Man? That way yields only discord and disaster.

  64. MICHAEL GOODWIN

    yes Mr.Goodwin, you make your living now critizing Waffles, yet in 2008, praising his turd, voting for him and come 2012, you will vote and promote him yet again and then pretend you had nothing to do with it.

  65. wbboei
    March 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    Does anyone know who the rebels are, and what they would do when Gadafi is overthrown?
    _____________________________________

    Run down and kill Kadaffi supporters? Ooops, a new humanitarian crisis!
    ————————————
    Trump says according to his sources, the rebels that Obama is protecting through this no fly zone, and whatever else may follow in its wake, have direct ties to Iran and al Qaeda. If so then this is more than incompetence–it is insanity.

  66. MICHAEL GOODWIN

    yes Mr.Goodwin, you make your living now critizing Waffles, yet in 2008, praising his turd, voting for him and come 2012, you will vote and promote him yet again and then pretend you had nothing to do with it.
    ———————–
    Tim, if it is any consolation, I wrote Goodwin an email a couple years ago calling him a maggot for the way he treated Hillary and I told Lou Dobbs that Goodwin was a maggot as well when Lou came to town.

  67. yikes, I just read some of the comments at zerohedge, I cannot believe with all the nasty things they are now writing on that financial site, that they promoted Waffles in 2008.

  68. How the F*ck can a country be a “Secular Atheist Country”….dominated by Radical Islamists????

    =================

    LOL! And what kind of idiots does Gingrich think he’s talking to?

  69. Gringrich thinks he is talking to the same idiots who hired a special prosecutor and tried has hard as they could to IMPEACH a president for lying about sex after they set him up…those idiots!

  70. Now that we have engaged in that battle we must win. Anything less than total victory will be perceived by the world as another US defeat

    =================

    Hm? Hillary’s purpose is to prevent Gadaffi’s threatened massacre. (And to get rid of Gadaffi because otherwise he will keep causing trouble, as she said; but not necessarily get rid of him by our own bullets.)

    We don’t need to bring other objectives into the definition of ‘victory.’ The more we bring in, the less possible ‘total victory’ becomes.

  71. Does anyone know who the rebels are, and what they would do when Gadafi is overthrown? If past is prologue, Obama and his minions have not thought that far ahead.

    =============

    Has Hillary?

  72. Maybe Hillary wrote his speech?

    “Of course, there is no question that Libya — and the world — will be better off with Gadhafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal, and will actively pursue it through non-military means. But broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake….”

  73. Newt was just pushing buttons in peoples mid-brain.

    ==================

    Objection, counselor. Brain not in evidence.

  74. “Do you not think secular atheism is a religion?”

    =================

    / Backs away slowly from undistributed middle. /

    Wbboei, let me buy you a drink, friend.

  75. Gringrich thinks he is talking to the same idiots who hired a special prosecutor and tried has hard as they could to IMPEACH a president for lying about sex after they set him up…those idiots!

    ===============

    We need a Gingrich bingo card. Has he got around to saying, “But *I* wasn’t under oath”?

  76. Shadowfax, from last thread –
    I totally agree with you about the balls term. People used to always say “s/he has a spine” or “needs to get a spine”. Very gender neutral. I totally object to the “best” being something a man has. It perpetuates women being perceived as second class, because we can never have (nor would ever want!) balls.

    turndown, from this thread –
    “conojes” won’t solve the problem – AFAIK, it means “balls” in spanish. I don’t think spanish speaking women have conojes any more than we have balls.

  77. lorac
    March 29th, 2011 at 12:42 am

    lorac and shawdow, I am a woman and I really do not have a problem with it. We ourselves use it often on this very blog.

  78. Ace
    ****
    Obama in 2002:

    Now let me be clear — I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.
    He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

    But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

    Compare that to his new position that the US, as a nation, cannot sit idly by as a slaughter occurs.

    Seems to me he was pretty cool with Saddam’s slaughter.

  79. wbboei – I haven’t checked, but I’m pretty sure that a key “ingredient” of a religion is organization. A religion is an organized spirituality. It is something that is taught, indoctrinated some might say. Religion so permeates our society, that it’s hard to imagine someone coming to religion “on their own”, but they might individually feel a “call” to spirituality. But there’s no way they would come up with a spirituality that matched a religion without having been exposed to that religion, that set of “rules” and proscribed “beliefs”.

    Atheists and agnostics don’t have an organized structure of rules, gods/prophets/saints/agreed upon leader, or anything like that. And they didn’t come to their beliefs based on being taught by their family, reinforced by a place of worship and society, etc. They come to their beliefs individually. I think it’s very different. Oh, and of course, people don’t proselytize atheism and agnosticism as they do religion. You don’t see them going door to door trying to get people to quit religion, and you don’t see them going on missions to africa trying to get them to quit their religions….

    I don’t know why people (I don’t mean you) seem so frightened or threatened by agnostics and atheists. I believe 97.something percent of people say they are religious. Fewer than 3% of the population can’t be a threat! Especially when they’re not organized and have no wish to be.

  80. “conojes” won’t solve the problem – AFAIK, it means “balls” in spanish.

    ===============

    Words sometimes have a different meaning when borrowed by a different language. This word is getting liberated, fast.

    I never liked expressions like “ballsy lady” in the past, for the reasons some people have mentioned here. But AFAIK, ‘cojones’ came into political talk referring to what some women have and certain men do not have. 😉

  81. gonzo, I know you’re a woman, I’ve “known” you a long time, from long ago on NQ/the place we went after (can’t remember the name). I understand you don’t have a problem with it. I wanted to let Shadowfax know she wasn’t alone.

  82. Shoot – I didn’t mean NQ – was it Taylor Marsh? Sorry, I can’t remember but I used to see you all the time starting from before the primaries. My brains are leaking out.

  83. gonzotx
    We ourselves use it often on this very blog.

    ———-
    No kidding, that is why I brought it up in the first place. I was trying to say that it seemed as though I am one of the only women here that find it offensive to women in general, and I went on to explain why, as did Lorac.

  84. Shadowfax
    March 29th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    I get that YOU think it is an insult but that doesn’t give you a license to insult people that don’t agree with you. Easy to do behind a computer.

  85. We are supposed to be secular here, in our country. It refers to the government (the state) being separate from the church. It doesn’t mean that the citizens can’t be or aren’t religious. I believe they used to refer to Iraq as secular, in that Saddam didn’t have religion in the government

    (although I seem to recall he belonged to the minority religion, and he gave a lot of government jobs to people in that same religion – the sunni/shia thing – but I think that’s also a cultural difference..?)

    “secular atheism” always sounds redundant to me. Secular means worldly, not supernatural, not religious. Atheism is not believing in a god or religion. IMO, redundant.

  86. Lorac, some Atheists have been very organized and have had a profound effect on American society.
    *****

    Madalyn Murray O’Hair (April 13, 1919 – September 29, 1995) was an American atheist activist, and founder of the organization American Atheists and its president from 1963 to 1986. Her son, Jon Garth Murray, was the president of the organization from 1986 to 1995, while she remained de facto president during these nine years[citation needed].
    She is best known for the Murray v. Curlett lawsuit, which led to a landmark Supreme Court ruling ending government sponsored prayer in American public schools. O’Hair later founded American Atheists and became so controversial that in 1964 Life magazine referred to her as “the most hated woman in America.”[1][2]
    In 1995 she was murdered, along with her son and granddaughter (whom she had adopted), by a member of the organization, David Roland Waters.[3]

  87. “secular atheism” always sounds redundant to me. Secular means worldly, not supernatural, not religious. Atheism is not believing in a god or religion. IMO, redundant.

    =================

    Probably it’s supposed to sound like ‘secular humanism.’

    You know, with a capital T that rhymes with P that stands for Pool.

  88. Shawdow,

    “Too bad other women just don’t get what an insult it is to their gender”…very superior of you, I am so dumb that I just don’t get it.

    And that really is the end of my discussion on this.

  89. Interesting
    ***
    Shortage of RAF pilots for Libya as defence budget cuts bite
    The RAF risks running short of pilots for operations over Libya as cuts to the defence budget threaten to undermine front-line operations, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

  90. gonzotx

    If you don’t get my intention and want to take it as an insult on your intelligence, then go for it.

    My intention was to try and point out that this kind of ‘almost as good’ as a man, really isn’t much of a compliment to women in general.

    You and I are very different, so be it.

  91. turndown

    which led to a landmark Supreme Court ruling ending government sponsored prayer in American public schools

    Cool – they made the schools follow the constitution, separation of church and state lol

  92. Shadow – I can’t imagine a single man agreeing to refer to strength as “having ovaries” lol

    Gosh, they don’t even call each other “bast*ard” anymore. That’s not bad enough. Now they call each other “b*tches” – THAT is an insult! I don’t even like when people call men names like “pussy” – again, to demean them, to say they’re weak, they imply the other is like a woman. To say they’re strong, they refer to their own body part. Woman = weak, inferior, second class. I can’t stand how our language perpetuates the supposed inferiority of women. So, I totally get where you’re coming from.

  93. Well at least Greta doesn’t buy the frauds speech or her guests.
    ———————-
    No they do not. I think the best comment came from Boulton in response to a question about what Obama thought when he authorized the no fly zone. The answer was that Obama has no idea what he has done and made the decision on the fly in response to efforts by France and Britain to seek a Security Council Resolution. He should have been at the head of the train stoking the boiler and giving direction. Instead, he was corking off in the caboose for weeks. The second best comment was that in the absence of a clearly defined goal, mission creep is already underway, since we have moved beyond the initial justification of a no fly zone to directing offensive strikes against Gadafi forces to support rebel advances.

    I think it is a mistake to characterize what has happened here as The Obama Doctrine. He tried to do that tonight when he laid out the putative justification. It did not sell. And it required a level of nuance and evasion which any careful listener would find troubling. Furthermore, he does not understand the impact of his actions. Gates was right that Libya is not a strategic interest, but once we entered that war we put our credibility at stake throughout the middle east, and we cannot walk away from it by saying it is now in NATO’s competent hands. Hillary knows this, but Obama does not. Finally, when his three big Irishmen tell us we are not care about consistency or precedents, they sound like the amateurs they are. The proper answer to people like Hannity who say we pursue humanitarian wars everywhere is that is correct but neither can we stand by and watch innocent people be slaughtered. It is the fall back position of a great power on the decline and it goes like this: it may well be that we can no longer be all powerful, but we can at least be unpredictable, and that may be harder for potential enemies to deal with than if we state our intentions up front and lack the will and capacity to see them through.

  94. lorac

    I know what you mean, that when a man cuts down another guy, he might say, he acts like, (cries, yells, runs, etc.) ‘a little girl’…the weakest of all females.

    Sometimes I think the guys don’t know how to treat women in general, part of their identity thing, of wanting to be the protector, the strong one…and when it comes to intelligence, they don’t want to think of some women as being more gifted or ‘stronger’ intellectually than they are.

    I also see SOME guys that are raised by a strong mother, with no father present, as having more of a ‘masculine’ identity problem. Possibly a guy like Barry, looking to strong women to make decisions for him???

    It isn’t cut and dry between men and women, but it is a constant struggle.

  95. It is the fall back position of a great power on the decline and it goes like this: it may well be that we can no longer be all powerful, but we can at least be unpredictable, and that may be harder for potential enemies to deal with than if we state our intentions up front and lack the will and capacity to see them through.

    ====================

    Makes sense to me. Random enforcement may be better than none at all.

  96. Evidently Bill Mahr is up to his old tricks making sexist remarks against conservative women politicians, while posing as a proponent of women’s rights. Typical hypocritical left wing scumbag. Beyond that he is an ugly human being. Wouldn’t it be a shame if someone decided to rearrange his face? That would have three obvious advantages: first, it would improve his appearance. Second, it would be cheaper than plastic surgery. Third, it would give him better comic material to work with.

  97. Makes sense to me. Random enforcement may be better than none at all.
    ————————-
    Yup. It is Sun Tzu on steroids. The day may come when that very dynamic becomes our navy doctrine vis a vis China. The reason I say that is because they are gaining a financial stranglehold over our economy thanks to Obama and if that is not stopped by someone like President who knows the score and is willing to look them in the eye and say J’accuse like Zola, then we will not be able to afford to build ships. We cannot kick the can down the road much longer. It grates on me that they call this fraud president. My dog would make a better one, and I do not even have a dog–other than Obama.

  98. wbboei – he doesn’t like some dem women, either. He used to say nasty things about Hillary. I used to watch him. He doesn’t believe in relationships, and there was a lot of misogyny in him. I suspect women really are mainly objects to him. I think he’s one of those men who only likes women for what they can give to him – he doesn’t respect them.

  99. Could it be true? Could Obama be giving air cover to al Qaeda in Libya. It is part and parcel of the real Obama Doctrine which is based on two unshakable principles: punish thine friends and protect thine enemies. And now you get these wide eyed Obama supporters telling us that it is unpatriotic to question a president in a time of war even thought he did that very thing himself with the Iraq War. And then they scream that politics stops at the waters edge, even though he has gone around the world criticizing the country he represents and apologizing for us to the world’s worst dictators. His people go to Red China and complain about Arizona. No sir. Politics no longer stops at the waters edge. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

  100. Shadow, I’ve even seen women say “s/he cries like a little girl”, and I always think, you’re a mother of sons, is your memory that bad, do you REALLY think that little boys don’t cry?

  101. Shadow, I’m sure your theory holds true for some people. But statistically, most black boys are raised by strong women, no father around, and the boys turn out anything but weak. I think Barry is his own case. Matter of fact, there were a bunch of years there, when all black men decided en masse to shave their heads, when it was very rare to see a black man smiling – it was the thing to always look tough and solemn. I didn’t think it was very attractive, myself. I much more prefer the Earth Wind and Fire “style”, uplifting songs and big smiles all the time.

    Personally, I think for him it (geez it’s hard to type with a cat continually trying to sit on my lap!) traces back to his youth. I’m not convinced he has any strong principles, and I think that leads to his indecision and need to gather large groups of people to get “consensus”. He needs to be told what to do. He wants to be all things to all people (for his own benefit, the adoration), so he doesn’t like to make choices. Unfortunately for him, he’s now president, and he can’t vote “present” anymore. Plus, he’s not in the insular Chicago anymore, now he’s on a national/world stage, and everyone can see his vascillation now. But – that’s just MY theory lol

    Although, I do agree with what I think wbboei is saying – I don’t personally think he’s religious, but I do think he leans toward the Muslim culture – although I suspect he wouldn’t want to live in one.

  102. wbboei – he doesn’t like some dem women, either. He used to say nasty things about Hillary. I used to watch him. He doesn’t believe in relationships, and there was a lot of misogyny in him. I suspect women really are mainly objects to him. I think he’s one of those men who only likes women for what they can give to him – he doesn’t respect them.
    —————————-
    Lorac– yes, I realize that. I cringed at the kind of crap he threw at Hillary. I guarantee you he has a drug and alcohol problem. As such, he is beyond he pale of civilized norms. I would love the break that big Canadian honker nose of his, but the better solution would be to take his meal ticket away from him. How about picketing the home of the CEO of HBO. Then buy stock in their company, go to annual meetings and demand his ouster. Give the little prick something to think about besides misogyny.

  103. Yes, he’s disgusting. I didn’t realize he was Canadian – first person from Canada I don’t like, then. And I heard what he was saying about Sarah and Bachman. I think he prides himself on “pushing the envelope”. He was fired from his previous station, but I forget for what. That’s when he went to HBO, because you can get away with more. (you probably already know that!)

    But, yeah, it drives me nuts. And you know he would never try to demean black people. So many people are like that – don’t demean black people (can’t even honestly criticize a black president), but you can totally demean women. They’re both wrong. But people like him don’t see that.

  104. The other thing brought our by Greta was the way that liberal women do not object to sexism directed against conservative women. A case in point is the National Organization for Women which turned a blind eye to rabid sexist attacks against Hillary, and later Sarah by Obama, the dims and big media. (Note: there are chapters of NOW like the New York Chapter and at one time the Los Angeles chapter who do speak on principle and are a credit to the cause, but the national organization has morphed into a fixture of Washington and a front organization for the Democratic Party. This of course is the fate of other industry groups who move to Washington and soon become more interested in power than the interests of their constituents. Thus, Sarah’s response was a classic: I need NOW support like a fish needs a bicycle.

  105. wbboei – I think Greta mentioned it both ways – women from each party don’t object to sexism being directed to a woman of the other party. Anyway, that’s how I see it, myself. That’s why I hoping The New Agenda makes some gains, because that’s their whole point – to stop sexism, regardless of party.

    But I do think that the dems win the prize – they direct it at repub women, and directed it at their own, Hillary. And it’s even worse, because they’re *supposed* to be the party that believes in equality for women. I’m glad I’m an independent now.

  106. Where Maher is concerned there has got to be some way to cut the umbilical cord between him and HBO. Vulgarians like him do not belong on national television. They belong dark smoky drug and alcohol invested dives, spewing their hate filled diatribes to stoned audiences. He is a blight on the cultural landscape and deserves be blackballed. A friend of mine appeared on his show and he went out of his way to insult her.

  107. wbboei – I think Greta mentioned it both ways
    ——————————————-
    You are absolutely right. I started to say that in a footnote and then forgot. I did not mention it in the same sentence because I wanted to make a different point. But the better point is that in the words of the old Teamster constitution–an offense to one is an injury to all. I think it surprised a lot of people to see how vicious the attacks against Hillary were from the radical left wing of her own party. But that is the nature of these people. When they were attacking Bush, I made the mistake of thinking they could be allies and were genuinely interested in the country. It took the Hillary campaign for me to realize that my original take on them was the right one and that is they nut jobs and if they gain power Katie bar the doors. That is one mistake–thinking a working alliance was possible– I will never make again. With the old liberals like Bartles Bull, with the newer liberals like Hedges, I find there is much common ground. But with the radical left it is as the French say–impossible.

  108. But I do think that the dems win the prize – they direct it at repub women, and directed it at their own, Hillary. And it’s even worse, because they’re *supposed* to be the party that believes in equality for women. I’m glad I’m an independent now.
    —————————————
    There is a reason for this. The Democratic Party sees itself as the champion of civil rights and the spokesman for women and minorities. They define themselves against the Republican Party in those very terms. Much of it is rhetorical however. When they are in power, they reward careerists in those categories, but very little trickles down. In some cases, they treat the people in these groups like trophies and expect them support the party without exception. Thus, when women or minorities become spokesmen for the other party, it shows the world that the Democratic Party is not what it claim to be–the exclusive representative of those groups. Therefore, they must destroy those spokesmen and spokeswomen. It is a dirty business.

  109. I have had a thousand discussions with friends about the decline and fall of big media. One of the factors that sophisticated people mention is the rise of the 24 hour news cycle thanks to FOX, CNN, et al.

    Frankly, I did not grasp the full significance of this until it was explained to me recently by a friend who is in the business. What it boils down to is this.

    In the old days, you had morning and evening news. And between the two there was time to check out stories. There was even time to do investigative journalism.

    The 24 hour news cycle has changed this. Why? Because it requires a real time news room which is always adjusting to new stories. But the even larger problem is that set up takes most of the time, and content takes short shrift.

    It is nerve racking and there is little or no time to check out stories. They just go to press with whatever comes in and let the chips fall where they may. At one time they would check out White House talking points, whereas now there is no time. So they broadcast them as is, and become a propaganda mill.

    That is why we must get our news from other sources.

  110. But statistically, most black boys are raised by strong women, no father around, and the boys turn out anything but weak. I think Barry is his own case.

    ==================

    Again, look at the White Guilt Grandparents who raised Obama from 10-college. The grandmother may have been the financial support, but not very strong in other ways. Again, see DREAMS excerpted in Steve Sailer’s blog (if it’s still around).

  111. Makes sense to me. Random enforcement may be better than none at all.
    ————————-
    Yup. It is Sun Tzu on steroids.

    =================

    So what is it with these people who want the ‘objective’ not only set in stone in advance — but published TO the enemy?

  112. Re Libya:

    You hear an altercation, a domestic violence situation, the big man threatening violence to his family. So you go in to see what’s happening and what you CAN do.

    Vowing to kill him, or vowing not to kill him — locking ourselves into anything is counter-productive. Especially if we broadcast our limits TO him.

  113. WTF

    Sky Sources: Traces of radioactive iodine from Japan’s Fukushima 1 nuclear plant found in Glasgow, Scotland.

  114. Our declaration of war is set for April 14th…..gear up for battle girls and boys.

    March 29, 2011

    Obama Finalizes Re-Election Plans
    President Obama “is fewer than three weeks away from formally announcing his reelection campaign, and will make it public with an online video his aides will post on his new campaign website,” National Journal reports.

    “Obama’s team will try to keep the exact date and time a surprise, letting supporters know first by text message and e-mail… But a major Democratic National Committee fundraiser is set for April 14 in Chicago, and Democratic donors are being told that it will coincide with the announcement. Obama will attend the event.”

  115. “The 24 hour news cycle has changed this. Why? Because it requires a real time news room which is always adjusting to new stories. But the even larger problem is that set up takes most of the time, and content takes short shrift.

    It is nerve racking and there is little or no time to check out stories. They just go to press with whatever comes in and let the chips fall where they may.”
    _____________________

    The Internet is responsible for the the demise of newspapers. Newspapers are a product of word of mouth translated in print to paper. The Internet/Twitter is word of mouth, communicated in real time translated to print reaching worldwide in an instant.

    Newspapers do not have that capability and never will. Therefore they are traveling head long into a tsunami and into obsolescence, if change is not implemented .

    In the interests of survival, newspapers should be entertaining new ideas revamping the way their news is delivered. Publishing a single newspaper at week’s end with special reports on various topic published the following Wednesday on the previous week’s news, reporting conclusions, mistakes and corrections consolidated into one day’s publication.

    I believe this method has the realistic potential of being successful. Daniel Webster did-

  116. Currently at FoxNews.com

    Breaking News: Syria’s Cabinet Resigns Amid Anti-Government Unrest

    Urgent: NATO reportedly puts planned takeover of Libya mission on hold as U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. says the White House hasn’t ruled out arming rebels in their fight against Qaddafi’s forces.

  117. @lorac: Atheists and agnostics don’t have an organized structure of rules, gods/prophets/saints/agreed upon leader, or anything like that. And they didn’t come to their beliefs based on being taught by their family, reinforced by a place of worship and society, etc. They come to their beliefs individually.
    —————–

    Not true.. Indian history documents an atheists’ ‘organization’ called Chakravaka who had a leader and who advocated living in the moment, living well.

  118. moononpluto
    March 29th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Obama Finalizes Re-Election Plans
    President Obama “is fewer than three weeks away from formally announcing his reelection campaign, and will make it public with an online video his aides will post on his new campaign website,” National Journal reports.

    “Obama’s team will try to keep the exact date and time a surprise, letting supporters know first by text message and e-mail…
    &&&&&&

    “I do de-clah, my heart is aflutter in anticipation…”

    Here we go again, the Cool Guy Prez dude bonds with his online Geek Squad. But he’s got big problems.

    Normally, presidents seeking re-election are in a stronger position than when they seeking their first term, without the trappings of the incumbency. But I think it is fairly safe to say that Obama in 2012 is a much weaker candidate than in 2008, despite his having his feet up on the Oval Office desk already.

    In 2008, he was the Blank Slate, guy with no paper trail, and he could fudge that “presidential” thing with rigged crowds, faux presidential seals on lecterns, and Britney Spears’ Grecian columns. Now, he’s been outed, being forced to do the job he conned the American public into selecting him for. And he’s really quite sucky at it:

    * He’s not a natural at the podium, as “everyone” (that is, everyone in MSM) promised he’d be, stammering and going all deer-in-the-headlights, even with a teleprompter.

    * He’s no policy wonk (a la Clinton, Gore, or Clinton, HRC), so he can’t talk the issues, nor get Congress to see his vision. He has no “vision”, legistlatively. It’s all about “How’s this going to make me look?”. Starting with that as your goal, you are bound to fail. I think if there is a “vision”, it is “Be historical”. Mini-vomit.

    * He’s no maestro conductor of legistlation, a la LBJ, who knew how the system worked. He’s still reviewing the Sesame St. episode, “This is how a Bill becomes a Law”.

    * He’s a weak and indecisive leader when it comes to foreign relations and crises. Don’t make me list the examples. If you want examples, look at the period from Jan. 1. 2009 through the present…

    * His domestic strategy is to realize he is going to lose badly in 2012, either in the primaries or the general, and he’s trying to throw enough pork around to buy people’s good will. They’ll take their local pork spending anyway, then continue the process of getting him out of office.

    * He delegates everything.

    * He is extremely closed off, with only his inner circle having his ear. He is not “engaged”.

    * “Birthers” are still making coherent arguments, and some states will pass laws that require verification of eligibility. Put that in your purple lips and smoke it.

  119. I went to the grocery store shopping yesterday, and one of those rags had a headline: KENNEDY’S BEG HILLARY TO RUN. I did not read the article, so judging on that headline, all I can say is I LOL. You got what you paid for, and now you expect her to save you.

    I would not blame Hillary for sitting in a rocking chair on front porch, smiling and waving at you saying enjoy what is left of your country. However, we all know she is too loyal to do anything like that.

    So what possible could happen during this announcement to embarass the man. But then, would he even notice anything that does not judge him as JESUE CHRIST SUPER STAR.

  120. rgb44hrc
    March 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am
    ———————-

    Apparently ‘Hope’ and ‘Change’ are making a comeback, the two most used words in his speech last night, it seems.

  121. wbboei – I haven’t checked, but I’m pretty sure that a key “ingredient” of a religion is organization. A religion is an organized spirituality.
    **********
    I don’t want to go to far into the “weeds” but the “organize” seems to be a fundamental point of contention for the definition of religion. I personally think that humans are “hard wired” for religion. People who reject that concept do so because they consider “organized” as part of the definition of religion and the organization isn’t “hard wired.”

  122. @SHV:I personally think that humans are “hard wired” for religion.
    ————–
    I am curious as to why you would think that..

  123. pm317
    March 29th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Apparently ‘Hope’ and ‘Change’ are making a comeback, the two most used words in his speech last night, it seems.
    &&&&

    That works when you are not yet in office. It doesn’t work when you are the incumbent.

  124. rgb44hrc

    Amen, and also especially when you don’t have a record. I am praying everynight that the Reps come up with a really exciting candidate. That is the only thing that will prompt him to quit, as he does not want failure on his record. It is hard to ignore a defeat for re-election.

  125. “I am curious as to why you would think that..”
    *********
    Not an area of special interest for me, however, I can’t think of a human culture that didn’t/doesn’t show evidence of spirituality/religion, no matter how isolated in time or geography. I am one of the humans that didn’t receive the wiring. Despite growing up in a “conventional mainstream Protestant” family and going to church for 16+ years, I don’t ever remember believing any of the religious doctrine, at any age.

  126. Well Pawlenty just killed off his presidential aspirations before it started

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/29/pawlenty-calls-out-trump/

    (CNN) – Donald Trump should quit questioning President Obama’s birthplace, says Tim Pawlenty, a potential future opponent of Trump’s for the Republican presidential nomination.

    Appearing on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Pawlenty said he doesn’t doubt Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii and says members of his party should stop pushing the issue.

    “I, for one, do not believe we should be raising that issue,” the ex-Minnesota governor said. “I think President Obama was born in the United States.”

    ………………….

    Moron.

  127. moononpluto:

    Well Pawlenty just killed off his presidential aspirations before it started, saying:

    “I think President Obama was born in the United States.”
    ________________

    I agree- How can Pawlenty “think” Obama is telling the Truth; when Obama has been proven over and over again to be a pathological LIAR!.

  128. Mrs. Smith,

    The link didn’t work for me, but I can’t help wondering why now? Why are the Kennedys switching to Hillary.

    And what do the bogs think of this…lol…

  129. Maybe Pawlenty is auditioning for the 2004 Kerry role – weak opponent meant to lose against unpopular president.

  130. Pawlenty bases his beliefs on WHAT.
    ————————–
    Political ambition gone awry. Evidently, the secret handshake among all the establishment elites is NOT to question Obama’s birth certificate, because it opens the door to hundreds of embarrassing questions. He was not born in this country, period. But if that fact is ever admitted then why did congress and state legislators give him a pass? In that case, would the system unravel? No. Would it prove embarrassing to the people who lied? Yes. Would it send them looking for scapegoats to save their own careers? Yes. Would it shake confidence in the system? Yes, what little is left of it. Would it prove devastating to the black population? That depends on whether they have grown up and now see him for what he is rather than what they hoped he would become. In sum, this is how a self serving oligarchy behaves when it is confronted with an embarrassing truth. They circle the wagons.

  131. Pawlenty has two important things going for him, which should end his political ambitions once and for all: i) dull as paint, ii) dumb as a post. Whoever thought he was presidential material. Then again, look at the idiot who holds that job right now, by hook or crook–mostly by crook.

  132. I myself am inclined to believe that BO was born in Hawaii but that there is something else he is hiding in his BC. What, I cannot say.
    And I think that his grades in college probably stink, or else he would have released his transcript.

  133. SHV
    March 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am
    ————–
    I guess it is timely to write this note because it addresses both religion and status of women that is going on here. According to Merlin Stone (and may be others) there was a female religion that worshiped female deities as early as 7000 BC (or even earlier 25000 BC to the last goddess temple in 500 AD. One of the reasons was that women giving birth was not necessarily well understood and viewed as divine. Once that understanding dawned on the humans and the role male played, male religions took over but both religions existed for thousands of years until finally it suppressed most forms of female divinity.

    The book by Merlin Stone that talks about this is ‘When God was a Woman’.

    Incidentally there are still many matriarchal societies in India most prominent of which is in a state called Kerala where property, inheritance are passed from mother to daughter/children to this day.

  134. votermom, I agree, he would have crowed if the grades were good and he didn’t have anything on it that was incriminating. If the grades were good, his ego and ‘audacity’ would not have let him keep the transcripts under wraps. You know the smartest president ever.. We can take opposite of everything they have said about him to the bank.

  135. Maybe Pawlenty is auditioning for the 2004 Kerry role – weak opponent meant to lose against unpopular president.
    ——————————————
    There are built in biases in the system which favor continuity and a change in the presidency works against them. From foreign policy to domestic policy to who controls the NLRB long term planning for this country becomes difficult. Still you do see in Obama the mirror image of Bush, so there is in fact a degree of continuity that people have begun to appreciate only now. But it is my theory that this is not like a rigged prize fight where one voter is paid to take a dive. I do think the Republicans fully intend to win the presidency in 2012 and they will move heaven and earth to do so. The two big advantages the asshole in office held in 2008–the novelty of his race and his promise to provide that great come and get it day to the people who fell down on their and prostrated themselves to him, has proven to be a lie, the world is in chaos, and he has a bad habit of running from a fight. Using a basketball analogy Bennett called him an outside shooter, not a guy who gets in near the hoop and fights for the ball. I think Bennett is too kind. I think he is a coward, and no one who is honest should kowtow to him. When someone tells me you must respect him because he is president, I say he stole the office, he is ruining the country and I refuse to someone who does that even if he happens to reside for now at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

  136. The political goal of the Libyan adventure is to change the historical narrative of US involvement in the middle east, and to do so on the cheap. At least, that is the view of this writer, and I for one believe it is accurate to a point. The problem of course is this entire policy has what Bork once described as the smell of the lamp to it–meaning it is overly academic (as in Samantha Power)and if it turns out that the rebels we are treating as allies are tied to Iran and al Qaeda, then pray tell where are we with this vaunted strategy which they refuse to fess up to. On second thought it has the smell of something else. Years ago, the Idaho potato baron Simplot opened a cattle ranch in close proximity to a residential area, creating a nuisance for which they took him to court. On the witness stand he was asked whether he had been to the farm and taken a whiff of the air to which he answered yes. Whereupon the opposing attorney asked him what does that smell like to you? He answered it smells like money. In this case, it smells like oil.

    Overall, it was a cold speech. And a particularly dishonest one, since the reason for the US intervention in Libya really has nothing to do with preventing a threatened slaughter in Benghazi or cobbling together an international coalition to forestall the advances of a madman. The US sits back and lets slaughters large and small happen all over the world. We do it all the time. We’re doing it right now in Syria, in Iran, in Africa. The US sits back and does not intervene while madmen and tyrants drive their nations insane. We do that every day; in Asia, in Africa and in the Middle East.

    We intervened in Libya because the President and his advisors saw an opportunity for the US to change the historical narrative of US involvement in the Middle East; from supporters of corrupt (and often deranged) despots to supporters and enablers of this new “Arab Spring.”

    Libya was chosen because it was easy. We fought there because we knew we could neutralize Qaddafi’s military forces in a matter of days. Faced with overwhelming US-led air power, we assume that Qaddafi’s generals will take matters into their own hands and facilitate their own “regime change.” Why wouldn’t they? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Much better to make their peace with NATO and be done with their old boss.

    President Obama understands that in the business of changing narratives, the one thing you cannot do is lose. That’s why we didn’t organize a coalition to intervene in Syria or Iran. That’s why we chose Libya. We knew we would win (militarily) and in the process of supporting “good Muslims” who rose up in opposition to a very bad Muslim (Qaddafi), we would gain some cred on the Arab Street. Play a positive role in Egypt, assist democracy movements elsewhere in the region and — who knows? — the white-heat hatred of the US across the Middle East might soften and abate.

    That’s the play. The larger strategy was laid out in a lengthy op-ed piece by former British Prime Minister Tony Blair that was published in the Wall Street Journal ten days ago. Mr. Blair’s piece is worth reading in full. It’s the outline of how a “new narrative” might be written in the Middle East. Lacking any bright ideas of their own and feeling the full weight of the burden of US support for the region’s despots and tyrants over the last half century, it is no wonder that Mr. Obama and his advisors made a small piece of Mr. Blair’s strategy their own.

    In and of itself, this is not a bad thing. It’s something, anyway. It’s a fairly bold move, in fact; a calculated roll of the dice but a roll of the dice nonetheless.

    What makes it unattractive is its disguise: the presumed precision, the self-congratulation with regards to process, the gratuitous shots at Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush, the chilly and almost faux appreciation of the military, topped off by an unnerving egomaniacal conceit: “I refused to let that happen.” By “that,” President Obama meant the threatened massacre in Benghazi.

    The speech would have been better if President Obama had addressed the issue of the “Arab Spring” (and all that it implies, for better or for worse) as directly as Tony Blair did in his op-ed essay. That would have required some hard strategic thinking, perhaps a complete re-think of US policy in the Middle East and toward the Muslim world generally.

    To a large degree, that is exactly what we were hoping we might get with President Obama; someone who would think differently about America’s role in the world and position us in new and interesting ways. What we got tonight was politics masquerading as policy. And not even in prime time. If it was prime time, the Administration reasoned, you might be alarmed. No need to be alarmed.

    No worries there. The moment it was over you forgot every word.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-i-refused-to-let-that-happen-2011-3#ixzz1I0KULu8P

  137. “Gaddafi! Kadafi! Qaddafi! Let’s call the whole thing off”

    Is it just me, or do you have no frikkin’ clue as to spell the Libyan strong man’s last name or first name. So you consult newspapers or the internet, and you just get more conflicting info.

    Then there is beloved “son”, who goes by either Barack, or Barry, etc.

    csmonitor.com/World/2011/0222/Gaddafi-Kadafi-Qaddafi-What-s-the-correct-spelling

    Gaddafi? Kadafi? Qaddafi? What’s the correct spelling?
    ============================

    You say, Gaddafi, we say Qaddafi. Other variations on the leader of Libya include “Gathafi,” “Kadafi,” and “Gadafy,” creating an unholy mess for newspaper editors.

    (photo caption: A multitude of spellings of the Libyan ruler’s name appear on signs held by demonstrators near the White House Saturday.)

    Each time Libya appears in the news, scores of newspaper editors go bananas. Once possessed of faculties that could detect a breaking story as readily as a dangling participle, these poor souls are now reduced to a jabbering stupor, as though they had gazed into the tentacled maw of Cthulhu himself.

    Blame it on the name of the country’s head of state, Colonel Gaddafi. Wait, no, that’s Kaddafi. Or maybe it’s Qadhafi. Tell you what, we’ll just call him by his first name, which is, er … hoo boy.

    Part of the problem here is that there’s no universally accepted authority for transliterating Arabic names. Normally, news outlets will just go with whatever spelling the subject prefers, but this particular subject hasn’t settled on a single Roman orthography for his name.

    Instead, Libya’s Brother Leader lets a hundred flowers bloom. The banner at the top of his official website spells it, “AL Gathafi.” But if you go deeper into the site, you’ll see it variously rendered as “Al Qaddafi,” “Algathafi,” and “Al-Gathafi.” Adding to the multitude of his spellings is the increasingly ironically named “Al-Gaddafi International Prize for Human Rights.”

    And that’s just the surname. Variations on his given name include Muammar, Moammar, Mu’ammar, and Moamar, and many others. Once you’ve settled on how to spell his first and last names, you then have to decide whether you want to add the Arabic prefix “al-” before his last name. Which can also be spelled “el-.” And then you have to decide whether the prefix should be capitalized.

    This is the point where most editors give up and run a story on Justin Bieber instead.

    For those few brave editors who press on, the result is a multiplicity of spellings. The Associated Press, CNN, and MSNBC spell it “Moammar Gadhafi.” The New York Times spells it “Muammar el-Qaddafi.” At the Los Angeles Times, it’s “Moammar Kadafi.” Reuters, the Guardian, and the BBC go with “Muammar Gaddafi.” The Irish Times goes with “Muammar Gadafy.” ABC News – which spells it “Moammar Gaddafi” – has posted a list of 112 variations on the English spelling of the Libyan strongman’s name.

    At The Christian Science Monitor, we go with “Muammar Qaddafi,” a spelling that is no more or less defensible than anyone else’s.

    All this would just be a matter of idle curiosity if it weren’t for the Web. Go to Google News and type in “Gadhafi.” Now try “Qaddafi.” And now try “Gaddafi.” Notice how it returns three completely different lists of stories? How you choose to spell it determines what news you get.

    This may be the point at which one feels one’s grip on reality loosening. Do we change the spelling to whatever is the most-Google-searched-for rendering? What if it changes again? How do we find stories on our own site if we keep changing the spelling of the guy’s name? And where did all these variations come from in the first place, if not the news media? Can’t we just get together at the next ASNE conference and all agree to spell it one way? At this point, having a dictator doesn’t sound all that bad.

    But don’t feel sorry for us. After all, it’s rare that we can write about someone whose job security actually may be more tenuous than our own.

  138. wbboei
    March 29th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    ——————–

    You are truly an amazing analyst and writer rolled up in one.

  139. And here we have a noxious writer who blames Hillary for everything while bambi walks on water. Hillary Clinton continues to be a humanitarian and care about the people of the world who are suffering. Her decisions are based on that alone.

    March 29, 2011
    Hillary’s War
    By Victor Sharpe

    Let us first look back to the bombing of Serbia by President Clinton and who was most instrumental in encouraging him. According to Dean Murphy in the New York Times of October 2000, “Hillary Clinton called for the US to reject isolationism and aggressively engage itself in world affairs in the tradition of President Truman at the end of WWII.

    “She cited American involvement in Bosnia and Kosovo as examples of foreign engagements she favored on moral and strategic grounds, but also suggested that Americans needed to consider becoming involved in solving crises that are not only military in nature.”

    In other words Hillary urged Bill to launch the first “human rights war” in Bosnia and Kosovo. But in doing so she laid the foundation for an Islamic beachhead in territory previously fought over for centuries by Christian Serbs who were resisting Muslim invasion and conquest.

    Again, according to Gail Sheehy writing on December 9, 1999 in Hillary’s Choice, page 345: On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb. The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. The President expressed what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance?

    “Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?”

    The next day the President declared that force was necessary. Thus it was Hillary Clinton who urged her husband to bomb Serbia. And it was done, predominately, with the use of U.S. aircraft wearing NATO insignia and bombing from thousands of feet. Inevitably such indiscriminate force led to the destruction of bridges in Belgrade with untold numbers of Serbian civilians killed. Some humanitarian war!

    The same thread appeared in June 1999 when Hillary spoke at the Sorbonne in Paris. She again defended the bombing of Serbia by claiming that:

    “We will not turn away when human beings are cruelly expelled or when they are denied basic rights and dignities because of how they look or how they worship. When crimes against humanity rear their ugly heads, we have to send such a message as an international community.”

    She was referring to the Muslim victims of the war but she lost sight both of the Serbian victims who had died at the hands of Muslims she was defending or who themselves had been expelled from their lands by Muslim aggressors. She misread the strategic and humanitarian disaster to the West that increasingly jihadist Muslim states in the Balkans were bound to create. It was not America’s finest hour.

    Now Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, is doing the very same in Libya that she set in motion in Bosnia and Kosovo. Like the pressure she brought to bear on President Clinton, Hillary has repeated it with President Obama.

    So we have Obama signing on to United States bombing in Libya in order to protect the so-called Libyan rebels against the deplorable President Gaddafi. But, like the Muslims in the Balkans that Hillary wept over, we have no true idea who these rebels really are. There are commentators who believe that, as Gaddafi himself suggested, the rebels are members of Al Qaida or the Muslim Brotherhood.

    It is instructive to read Tom Dickinson writing in the far from conservative website, Rolling Stone, on March 21, 2011. Though Dickinson is critical of Obama, remember it was Hillary Clinton who pressured the present president, as did Samantha Power, one of his most influential foreign policy advisors, and Susan Rice, his ambassador to the United Nations. Dickinson wrote:

    “In recent years, at mosques throughout eastern Libya, radical imams have been “urging worshippers to support jihad in Iraq and elsewhere, according to Wiki-Leaked cables. More troubling: The city of Derna, east of Benghazi, was a “wellspring” of suicide bombers that targeted U.S. troops in Iraq.

    “By imposing a no-fly zone over Eastern Libya, the U.S. and its coalition partners have effectively embraced the breakaway republic of Cyrenaica. A West Point analysis of a cache of al Qaeda records discovered that nearly 20 percent of foreign fighters in Iraq were Libyans, and that on a per-capita basis Libya nearly doubled Saudi Arabia as the top source of foreign fighters.

    “The epicenter of Libyan jihadism is the city of Derna – the hometown of more than half of Libya’s foreign fighters. The city of 80,000 has a history of violent resistance to occupying powers – including Americans, who captured the city in the First Barbary War.

    “A surprisingly readable cable titled “Die Hard in Derna” makes clear that the city “takes great pride” in having sent so many of its sons to kill American soldiers in Iraq, quoting one resident as saying: ‘It’s jihad – it’s our duty.'”

    So here we see Hillary at it again. Having brutally harmed Serbia and forced it to lose its heartland of Kosovo — what Serbs call their Jerusalem — she aided and abetted Muslim jihadist ambitions and is now doing the same in Libya.

    Let us also not forget that in Frankfurt, Germany, two U.S. servicemen were recently murdered by a Kosovo Muslim terrorist screaming Allahu Akbar (Allah is greater) as the unarmed soldiers sat in a bus at the airport.

    Is Hillary so naïve as not to realize that these are not Libyan rebels in the true sense of the word? No, I believe she fully understands what she is doing and that makes for one truly frightening scenario.

    The rebels are jihadists, murderers of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are enemies of the West; enemies of Jews and Christians and of all other non-Muslim faiths. What is shameful is that Americans are being put yet again in harm’s way in another Muslim country and at the urgings of the Arab League: that ever corrupt body that is using American and European forces as cannon fodder.

    The jihadists are now the creatures that Barack Hussein Obama, with the connivance and urgings of Hillary, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice and so many other “progressive” denizens of the White House and State, are supporting. If this were a novel it would be considered too far-fetched.

    It will be interesting to see how the far left views Obama’s and Hillary’s War? Unhappy, to say the least, with the protracted conflict in Iraq, Afghanistan and now the Libyan imbroglio, one thing is certain: they cannot this time blame Bush.

    Oh, what noxious weeds has Hillary Clinton sown!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/hillarys_war.html

  140. Just watched some of the speech.

    moononpluto is right that BO seems to be wearing eye shadow. His lips seemed colored to match his tie. Anyone else notice how conspicuously the American flags were arranged behind him?

    This was just another showbiz production. He couldn’t deliver remarks until Monday because all the props, the rehearsals, the new teleprompter had to be set up.

    BTW, Reuters claims the Libyan “rebels” are fleeing in panic as Daffy’s forces advance.

  141. JanH, I hope wbboei does not mind me pointing out that except for the first para(?) the rest of that comment is from the link he cites at the bottom. (Sorry, citation and attribution are in my blood, I think). Using blockquotes will be nice. I also don’t particularly like copy/paste of the complete article. It deprives the original author the clicks.

  142. I should add to my comment directed at JanH, ‘not to take away anything of what you said about wbboei..’

  143. pm317,

    Thanks. Yes I realize that only the first paragraph is wbboei’s. I just wanted to give wbboei some well overdue praise for always posting extremely valid comments on this great site.

  144. lorac
    March 29th, 2011 at 2:58 am
    Shadow, I’m sure your theory holds true for some people. But statistically, most black boys are raised by strong women, no father around, and the boys turn out anything but weak
    *************

    Depends on your definition of strong. To me a strong man has an ethic, moral compass, employed and sticks around to raise a family. I will try to look it up, but I believe that the percentage of unwed mothers in the Black community is at absurd high’s and and you can bet you ever depreciating dollar, you and I are supporting most by welfare.

  145. Lorac

    I am just tossing theories out there about what I think might cause some struggles between men and women. As a single mom raising a son, I have my own lens, and sense I am not a guy, I can only guess why they act the way they do and try my best to raise my son to respect women, which he does.

    ——-

    Although, I do agree with what I think wbboei is saying – I don’t personally think he’s religious, but I do think he leans toward the Muslim culture – although I suspect he wouldn’t want to live in one.

    —–> Ya know, it would sure be great to actually know who the BoyKing really is, we know more about what he isn’t…

    He isn’t a leader.
    He isn’t a hard worker.
    He doesn’t believe all races and genders are equal.
    He isn’t honest.
    He doesn’t like to make a decision unless people first call him weak.

  146. Really sad stats about how the American child is being raised today.
    *****

    Fifty to 65% of first marriages end within the first 15 years.
    Most people who divorce will remarry, usually within 5 years. Remarriages are more likely to end than first marriages are.
    When divorce occurs, mothers usually get custody of children.
    24 million children in the United States live without their biological father.*
    In 1970, fewer than 400,000 homes in the United States had children being raised by single fathers. By 2000, that number had risen to 2 million.*
    In 2000, there were about 1.35 million out-of-wedlock births in the United States.*
    Over 3 million children in the United States live with an unmarried parent and his/her partner.*
    About 40 % of children who do not live with their biological father have not seen him during the past 12 months; more than half of them have never been in his home and 26% of those fathers live in a different sate than their children.*
    In 1960, only 9% of children in the United States lived with single parents. By 1995 that figure rose to 27%.*
    Ninety percent of Americans believe children should live in the same home with their mother and father.*
    Eighty-five percent of Americans feel the number of children who are born to single parents is a “serous” issue.*
    Almost 18 million children in grades 1 to 12 do not live with their biological father.*
    About 27% of White children do not live with their biological father, 35% of Hispanic children and 66% of Black children.*
    About 80% of African American can expect to spend “a significant” portion of their childhood living without their biological father.*
    In 1990, almost 5 million children lived in neighborhoods in which single mothers were head of household in more than half of all families in those neighborhoods, 80% of those children were African Americans.*
    Nationally, over 19.2 million children live with single parents. About 3 million live with single fathers while over 16 million live with single mothers.*
    Most single mothers with children younger than 6 years old have never been married.*
    Unmarried parents accounted for over 30% of children born in 2000.*
    In 2000, among White mothers about 27% of all births were out-of-wedlock, among Hispanic mothers about 43% and Black mothers about 70%.*
    In 1996, over 9 million children under 18 years old who were born out of wedlock did not have a father who was legally identified.*
    Girls, whose mothers were teenagers at the time of their birth, are over 80% more likely to become teenage mothers as well.*
    In 1970, there were about 4 million divorced Americans. By 1998, the figure rose to over 19 million.*
    Since 1970, men have been divorcing at a median age between 32 and 36 years old.*
    About 60% of couples who divorce have at least one child.*
    Divorce is more common among people who marry before they are 21 years old, those who are not religious; those are of a lower socio-economic status and those who marry because of pregnancy.*
    Studies on families with a great deal of conflict suggest that children raised in those families do better if their parents stay together than if they divorced.*
    Studies suggest that boys might be more adversely affected by divorce than girls might. However, studies of college students suggest that girls whose parents divorced are more likely to develop depression, have problems in their relationships and have children out-of-wedlock.*
    Generally, people whose parents never divorced tend to feel more satisfied with their lives that others whose parents did.*
    Men who divorce are two times more likely to commit suicide than those who stay married.*
    One study suggested that children with stepfathers are three times more likely to be abused. Another indicated that 17% of female victims were sexually abused by their stepfather.*
    Biological parents are on average more loving towards their children than stepparents are. Stepparents also tend to be more hostile and indifferent towards step-children.*
    Problems associated with single parenting do not disappear when single mothers marry.*
    The fathers of over 1 million children in the United States are in prison.*
    African American children are 9 times more likely than White children are, to have an incarcerated parent.*

    *Reproduced from “Father Facts,” Fourth Edition (2002), with permission from the National Fatherhood Initiative.

  147. pm317
    March 29th, 2011 at 11:32 am
    We can take opposite of everything they have said about him to the bank.
    _______________________________________

    Every time.

  148. moononpluto

    Well Pawlenty just killed off his presidential aspirations before it started.

    ——
    I wonder if he can walk on that foot that he just shot with a double barrel shotgun.

    Moron- yup to that!

  149. pm317,

    #
    moononpluto
    March 28th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Can someone explain to me why the make-up guy thought the silver-blue eye shadow up to his eyebrows might make him look “presidential”?

    After viewing the clip I thought it did look like he was wearing eye shadow. To me, he is a ghoulish character. Scrawny, brooding and dark. I noticed his facial expressions looked forced and tense, especially around his mouth. He did not seem relaxed, to me.

  150. Not true.. Indian history documents an atheists’ ‘organization’ called Chakravaka who had a leader and who advocated living in the moment, living well.

    ==================

    What is their US tax exempt status? /sarcasm

  151. votermom

    And I think that his grades in college probably stink, or else he would have released his transcript.

    ——
    Just a side note to that, if he were a superstar…professor’s would have come out and sung his prises.

    He was never a Professor, he was a lecturer, that is someone that can teach a class in college, but is not on a tenure track, and is not a professor at all, not an Associate Professor, not a Adjunct Professor, nada.

  152. I am praying everynight that the Reps come up with a really exciting candidate. That is the only thing that will prompt him to quit, as he does not want failure on his record. It is hard to ignore a defeat for re-election.

    ==================

    His big money backers will want him to hang in, even if he will lose in Nov 2012. Their main priority is to block Hillary (or any other honest Dem).

  153. And I think that his grades in college probably stink, or else he would have released his transcript.

    ==================

    The same lawsuits that demand the bc also demand college (and work?) records. That could be a reason for fighting the lawsuits, and for misdirecting attention to the ‘birther’ issue.

  154. Shadowfax
    He was never a Professor, he was a lecturer, that is someone that can teach a class in college, but is not on a tenure track, and is not a professor at all, not an Associate Professor, not a Adjunct Professor, nada.
    *************************
    That is one of my pet peeves when MSM call him a constitutional law professor. They say it knowing it’s not true. Pundit of both parties also do it. Perpetuating the lies.

  155. Looks like Barry got mad that the three ladies got credit for joining the Libya fight…the spin begins.

    White House aide Samantha Power, a former news reporter turned anti-genocide advocate, said President Obama’s two-year campaign to promote human rights helped trigger the uprising in Libya against Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s rule.

    In a speech Monday at Columbia University, Ms. Power, director of multilateral affairs at the National Security Council, defended her support for the military operation against Libyan government forces and said the president’s efforts, through speeches in various foreign capitals, made it easier for other nations to stand with the United States against tyrants.

    “The president has argued our interests and our values cannot be separated,” Ms. Power said, speaking to a friendly crowd of about 130 people. “These values have caused the people of Libya to risk their lives on the street.”

    Ms. Power sidestepped questions about reports she was among three female Obama administration aides who pressed the president to go to war in Libya.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/28/aide-credits-obama-for-libyans-uprising/

  156. I respect him for not jumping into the rig just because he is popular and not ready for the top job…

    After persistent questioning, Rubio ruled ruled out a run for president; at least in 2012.

    “I am not running for president in 2012,” Rubio told me.

    Rubio, however, was less definitive in his response to media speculation that he is the odds-on choice to be the GOP vice presidential nominee.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-senator-marco-rubios-national-television/story?id=13243131

  157. the reason for the US intervention in Libya really has nothing to do with preventing a threatened slaughter in Benghazi or cobbling together an international coalition to forestall the advances of a madman.

    ================

    So why did Hillary push for it?

  158. Shadowfax
    March 29th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    ———————-

    I saw that earlier, the spin.. if anything, it was Hillary recently when she was in the region warning the Arabs of what is coming to them. Bill Clinton makes a mention of that in the video with Tina Brown I linked up thread. She asked if George Bush should get some credit for all the uprising and he said yes, maybe. Now Obozo’s fools are rushing in to cash the check.

  159. Clinton meets with Libya rebel leader

    By: Jennifer Epstein
    March 29, 2011 07:40 AM EDT

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is calling on the world to speak with one voice in resistance to Muammar Qadhafi’s regime in Libya.

    “This has been truly an international effort and a reflection of our shared concern for the safety of civilians and our support for the legitimate aspirations of the Libyan people,” she said Tuesday in London at a conference of foreign ministers from more than 30 countries contributing to the effort to protect civilians from forces fighting for Qadhafi.

    Clinton’s opening remarks at the meeting came just hours after President Barack Obama’s Monday night speech in which he touted the accomplishments that the U.S.-led effort has achieved in its first week of operations.

    Clinton also applauded the international coalition’s progress so far in Libya. “We have prevented a potential massacre, established a no-fly zone, stopped an advancing army, added more partners to this coalition and transferred command of the military effort to NATO,” she said. “That’s not bad for a week of work at a time of great, intense international concern.”

    “This is a time of great change for Libya, for its neighbors across the region and around the world,” Clinton said in her opening remarks. “Under different governments, under different circumstances, people are expressing the same basic aspirations – a voice in their government, an end to corruption, freedom from violence and fear, the chance to live in dignity and to make the most of their God-given talents.”

    While “these goals are not easily achieved,” they are “worth working for together,” she said. “I’m very proud that this coalition has come to this place at this time to try to pursue those goals.”

    Clinton also met early Tuesday with Mahmoud Jibril, a leader of the National Transition Council, the Libyan opposition group fighting Qadhafi’s forces on the ground.

    And, as the United States looks to strengthen ties and better understand the objectives of the Libyan rebels, the State Department will send Chris Stevens, who was deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, back to the country in the next few days. The United States has not formally recognized the opposition movement, and Stevens’s trip is not intended to signal a U.S. endorsement, a U.S. official told The Associated Press.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52124.html

  160. The US sits back and lets slaughters large and small happen all over the world. We do it all the time. We’re doing it right now in Syria, in Iran, in Africa. The US sits back and does not intervene while madmen and tyrants drive their nations insane.
    [….]
    Libya was chosen because it was easy. We fought there because we knew we could neutralize Qaddafi’s military forces in a matter of days.

    =================

    What’s wrong with intervening when there’s a good chance of success? In some countries bad things are happening but the chance of success is small and the risks (to us and to the locals) are greater. Probably we should intervene in more places (openly or not) — but don’t knock doing the right thing where we can.

    At least when the Clintons recommend intervening.

  161. Dumbasses…..caught.

    March 29, 2011

    When Senators Forget the Mute Button

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/on-a-senate-call-a-glimpse-of-marching-orders/

    Moments before a conference call with reporters and “apparently unaware that many of the reporters were already on the line,” Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) “began to instruct fellow senators on how to talk to reporters about the contentious budget process,” the New York Times reports.

    Schumer told them to portray House Speaker John Boehner (D-OH) “as painted into a box by the Tea Party, and to decry the spending cuts that he wants as extreme.”

    Said Schumer: “I always use the word extreme. That is what the caucus instructed me to use this week.”

    “A minute or two into the talking-points tutorial, though, someone apparently figured out that reporters were listening, and silence fell.”

    Then the conference call began in earnest, with the Democrats right on message.

    “We are urging Mr. Boehner to abandon the extreme right wing,” said Ms. Boxer, urging the House to compromise on the scale of spending cuts and to drop proposed amendments that would deny federal financing for Planned Parenthood and for government agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency.

    Mr. Carper continued with the theme, referring to some House Republicans’ “right-wing extremist friends.” Mr. Cardin decried Mr. Boehner giving into “extremes of his party.” Mr. Blumenthal closed by speaking of the “relatively small extreme group of ideologues” who are “an anchor” dragging down the budget negotiation process.

    How news is made . . .

  162. BigCat

    Perpetuating the lies.

    ——–
    Yup, and they might have gotten away with that lie if they didn’t miss scrubbing that one little fact off the internet.

  163. pm317

    Now Obozo’s fools are rushing in to cash the check.

    ——-
    Yup, and to prop up their weak puppet. Trying to give him credibility.

  164. What’s wrong with intervening when there’s a good chance of success?
    I agree. The same lefties who were always blaming Bill for Rwanda are now the ones saying Libyan intervention is immoral. I used to think I was on the far-left but really some of them are so idiotic.

  165. Hillary Clinton continues to be a humanitarian and care about the people of the world who are suffering. Her decisions are based on that alone.

    ===============

    Yes. *hugs*

  166. pm317
    March 29th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Gee, what do you guys make of this? Does this explain the scar on his head?

    http://www.rense.com/general84/brck.htm
    ___________________________________________

    Anything on Rense is nuts. I’m not saying it is absolutely impossible and never happened, but there is something very fishy about that site, beyond the outrageous stories posted there. There used to be tons of zionist conspiracy theories posted there.

  167. The same lefties who were always blaming Bill for Rwanda are now the ones saying Libyan intervention is immoral. I used to think I was on the far-left but really some of them are so idiotic.

    ==================

    Yes. It’s like ‘far left’ is just a club or something now – who you like and who you hate – rather than actual positions on actual issues.

  168. White House spokesman Reid Cherlin leaving to write, has piece coming in NY Magazine

    another one wanders off the reservation.

  169. BigCatLover
    March 29th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Shadowfax
    He was never a Professor, he was a lecturer, that is someone that can teach a class in college, but is not on a tenure track, and is not a professor at all, not an Associate Professor, not a Adjunct Professor, nada.
    _________________

    It’s strange. When Obama first announced he was running for President, I went on the university website and they said that he was not a law professor, but a senior lecturer. They said in order for him to become tenured and become a law professor he would have to apply, which he did not. They also said that had he applied he would have been rejected because in order to achieve tenure and become a law professor you had to have published and he had never published anything. I went back a month later and they said he was, indeed, a law professor. Someone got to them.

  170. A partial list of what BO has not released. (from a blogger at Geller’s site).

    •Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — Lawyers fees — greater than $1,000,000 — birth certificate — $15.
    •Certification of Live Birth — Released – Counterfeit – Case and Affidavits
    •Admitted British citizenship at birth — Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
    •Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery
    •Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    •Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    •Kindergarten records – Records lost (this is a big one — see here – read two frames)
    •Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    •Soetoro adoption records — Not released
    •Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
    •Punahou School records — Not released
    •Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
    •Selective Service Registration — Released – Counterfeit – Document Locator Number update – another FOIA request
    •Occidental College records — Not released
    •Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
    •Columbia College records — Not released
    •Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
    •Harvard College records — Not released
    •Harvard Law Review articles — None
    •Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
    •Baptism certificate — None
    •Medical records — Not released
    •Illinois State Senate records — None
    •Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
    •Law practice client list — Not released
    •University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

  171. Southern Born
    March 28th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    You are right…it looks like a third tellie! Now some poor stage grip is going to have to lug around three instead of two.

    *****************************************

    absolutely a third teleprompter down the center…however did you notice how that threw his timing off…he kept losing his place and having to wait for the tellies when he turned to the right and left…having to correct his word choice, etc.

    …that is probably the reason they don’t use the center tellie…its too much for him (he problably gets too nervous)…it is bad enough it is so obvious he is reading…and shows no inflection or emotion at all…so dry with no connection at all to the words he is speaking…check that…words he is reading…

    it is like…who is this man talking to with his eyes going side to side and connecting with blank space…

    (if he were in front of the american idol judges, Jennifer Lopez would lay into him to connect with your audience…he’d be voted off…)

    I find it another example of the hypocrisy of the left that they went on and on about Bachmann focusing on one camera when she responded to the SOTU speech and then we get this awkward and unbelievable delivery from O every single time he speaks…the man who speaks to the right and left blank space…

    his speeches and delivery for anyone else would be crucified, but the media just gives him a pass…

    …my guess is that the O camp are also getting complaints and maybe doing focus groups regarding his listless speeches…boring! dullsville…

    …the thrill is gone…

  172. Question: what price do we pay for Obama’s incompetence.–WBB Answer: No country is looking any longer to the US for a solution or guidance. It is every man and muslim for themselves. It is the ultimate game of survivor–LJ
    ————————————–

    Barack Obama, Community Organizer? BULLSHIT!

    By Larry Johnson on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM in Current Affairs
    It is full on belly laugh territory watching Barack Obama strut peacock like on TV taking credit for organizing the international coalition to impose a no fly zone over Libya (but keep Qaddafi in place) when the United States played only a bit part. The lion’s share of the work behind the scenes was carried out by France. The USA was MIA and Barky was busy trying to get his Samba groove going in preparation for his excellent Brazilian adventure.

    Watching Obama pathetic speech tonight it is clear he still does not understand military force, strategies or tactics. A no fly zone does not and cannot protect civilians who are in a city with enemy troops. Why? Because a pilot zipping along at 300 miles per hour 10,000 feet above the ground cannot distinguish between the friendlies and the bad guys. Air cover and close air support/bombing can be very effective in open areas against fixed targets. Air power can be devastating for armored columns moving methodically down the road.

    But air power is useless if two warring sides hunker down in buildings and bunkers inside a city. Dropping a bomb on such a target is just as likely to kill women and children as it is Qaddafi soldiers. All of the premature celebration yesterday and earlier today about the collapse of Qaddafi support is now exposed as so much wishful thinking.

    Is this really the best Obama can do? Good Christ!! Is this his equivalent of the Community Organizer fastball? He clearly does not know the first thing about organizing people to accomplish something. We’ve now spent close to $300 million in less than two weeks in Libya and Qaddafi is still holding on. And the US plan? Turn over the leadership and the mission to NATO. Except NATO can’t agree on anything other than the need to “protect the people” and “maintain” a No Fly Zone.

    Two forces are emerging as important throughout the Middle East–a resurgent Muslim Brotherhood and Iran. It is important for you to understand that the Muslim Brothers and Iran are not allies in any sense of the word. Muslim Brothers are Sunnis. Iran is Shia. The true believers in each group despise the other. It appears that Muslim Brothers are busy working behind the scenes in Syria (probably with encouragement and money from Saudi Arabia). Creating problems for Syria is one way to try to create an indirect problem for Iran.

    Muslim Brothers also appear to be expanding their influence in Egypt. It is no mere coincidence that rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel have escalated over the last two weeks.

    Iran, meanwhile, is busy sowing unrest in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. No country is looking any longer to the US for a solution or guidance. It is every man and muslim for themselves. It is the ultimate game of survivor.

    And Barack Obama? He’s just pleased that he got to fire off some cruise missiles but is now responsible for nothing because he has punted to NATO. That’s orgainizing?

  173. andyp

    There is quite a bit more to becoming tenured than just publishing. The published article has to be a piece of work that others, outside that school see worthy enough to write a letter of recommendation for tenure about, for that candidate. Also, the letters are averaged, not one good one outranks others.

    Then there are hoops in that (law) school that need to be met, teaching, benchmarks, etc.

    Then when all the requirements are met, the tenure faculty as a whole, in the entire Law school have to vote in favor of that candidate being accepted.

    It is not a shoe in situation, nor can a couple of people push someone though the system.

  174. Maybe some here can have fun with this as it certainly meets Obama’s criteria for transparency:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — There may be less than meets the eye to President Barack Obama’s statements Monday night that NATO is taking over from the U.S. in Libya and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Moammar Gadhafi’s forces. In transferring command and control to NATO, the U.S. is turning the reins over to an organization dominated by the U.S., both militarily and politically. In essence, the U.S. runs the show that is taking over running the show….
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iFWACvAYca3zjwTnnLh1JG8l2Rtw?docId=f1839ff6dd0e4265b2952651c972f4a5

  175. “No country is looking any longer to the US for a solution or guidance.”

    ——————
    Through his incompetence, obama has done such irreparable damage.

  176. JanH
    March 29th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    “No country is looking any longer to the US for a solution or guidance.”

    ——————
    Through his incompetence, obama has done such irreparable damage.
    _____________________________________________

    Malevolence and incompetence. I strongly suspect that all this going on in the ME is being fomented by these cretins. The stability, albeit far from perfect, took generations and a cold war to create. Obama is sowing chaos.

  177. Big Sis has the brain of a centipede and the body of a hippo. As someone noted recently this is just a minor distraction from the looming threat of a Tea Party take over in wherein government will be forced to comply with the constitution and protect our liberty. Pretty scary stuff whereas this is a minor distraction. If they were white Obama would label them them terrorists, but since they are Muslim we must be tolerant of anything, anything they decide to do and must nevah evah impose our values on them. If they get a little . . how shall I put it . . . frisky . . and there are . . . trying to think of the right word that Obama would use . . . mortal consequences . . . hey that is a good term to use because nobody is offended and nobody has the foggiest idea what the asshole is talking about. Oh by the way, whose side are you on Barack—the terrorists? Oh, I see, just the Muslim terrorists.
    ————————————————————

    DOJ memo: Somali man is bringing terrorists into U.S. via Mexican border

    But in a rare admission, a Justice Department memo and other documents obtained by the San Antonio Express-News say federal authorities know terror suspects are in this country and know who allegedly helped bring them here through Mexico and Texas: a Somali man in custody near San Antonio.

    Last year, Houston-area news outlets reported that homeland security issued a vague bulletin to Texas law enforcement to be on the lookout for Mohamed Ali, a purported member of Somalia-based Al-Shabaab, which has aligned itself with al-Qaida and Osama Bin Laden…

    Locally, the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force has been trying to retrace the steps and untangle the contacts of Ahmed Muhammed Dhakane…
    Five of Dhakane’s clients are listed in the memo — Mohamded Ma’alin, Mohammed Ereg, aka “Idris,” Hassan Yare and two whose last names authorities didn’t know: Adani and Abirizak, aka “Al Qaeda.”
    Three of them are known to have entered the U.S., according to the memo.

  178. I know this is a Hillary site, but this upsets me so much. Why is there so much hatred again?

    European Left Applying Libya Precedent to Israel, Calling for Military Action

    Omri Ceren 03.27.2011

    The junior partner in the Norwegian government, the Socialist Left Party of Kristin Halvorsen, (Sosialistisk Venstreparti), plans to vote on a measure calling for military action against Israel if it decides to act against the Hamas in Gaza… Here is the less than lucid reasoning behind the motion: The credibility of the world community in its confrontation with the Gadafi regime is undermined when there is no reaction against other states in the region who commit injustices against civil population. The greater world community must therefore also react against Israeli air attacks on the Gaza strip.

    Admittedly Norway might be a special case. The country’s level of institutionalized anti-Israel hostility is pathological. Norway is where the Israelis are being evicted from their embassy because there are too many security threats against their building. Those security threats are incited in part by Norwegian authorities who fund anti-Israel hatefests, whether in the form of Israel-hating all-star academic seminars or via blood-soaked exhibits that line up dead Palestinian babies with Nazi-style IDF helmets. The Israelis are trying to relocate elsewhere, but no one is willing to rent land to the country’s favorite Two Minute Hate target. So it’s unclear what’s going to happen.

    Norway also has a long tradition of trying to shield genocidal partisans from Israeli retaliation. In 1992 Norwegian UNIFIL troops smuggled Lebanese terrorists away from the IDF, one of many stunts before and after that caused the Israelis to distrust their participation in the international force. The country is also an incubator for creative anti-Israel lawfare, as happened when the Red Cross floated the idea of prosecuting dual Israeli-Norwegian citizens for war crimes. So it’s no surprise that Oslo would be at the forefront of trying to apply the Libya Responsibility-to-Protect precedent to Israel.

    But with due deference to Norway’s status as a particularly toxic cesspool of anti-Israel incitement, the idea won’t stay in Oslo. Ambassador Rice and President Obama have succeeded in linking the use of national force with a particularly flexible interpretation of international humanitarianism. Contemporary international humanitarianism, in turn, is a pretext seething activists and government officials use to obsess over Israel. With every juridical tool imaginable already being turned against the Jewish state, it’s inevitable that this newer and more expansive precedent will soon become very popular.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/03/27/european-left-applying-libya-precedent-to-israel-calling-for-military-action/

  179. JanH
    March 29th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    And here we have a noxious writer who blames Hillary for everything while bambi walks on water.
    &&&&&

    Exactly! If Obama is SUCH A GENIUS, why cannot he sort out good advice from bad advice? If he’s not a genius, if he’s fairly inexperienced in foreign affairs and must rely on advice from others, then he’s obviously not good enough to be president.

  180. JanH
    March 29th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
    I know this is a Hillary site, but this upsets me so much. Why is there so much hatred again?
    ______________________________________________

    This will likely offend folks, but fuck it. Its because they are God’s children and satan fills the world with hate to destroy the good. Many, many lies, perversions and fairy tales have shaped the mind of self-deluded modernity because they play into man’s weaknesses – susceptibility to flattery and arrogance.

  181. Ha! Stealing a comment from Crayfisher.

    “Right on Geraldine. Like Hill, more heuvos than BO.”

    Is that feminist enough for you?

  182. turndownobama
    March 29th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    the reason for the US intervention in Libya really has nothing to do with preventing a threatened slaughter in Benghazi or cobbling together an international coalition to forestall the advances of a madman.

    ================

    So why did Hillary push for it?
    ************

    Oil, lots of it, big bubbly crude that is …

  183. jbstonesfan
    March 29th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    How did someone like the fraud get such a prominent position like POTUS?

  184. 03/29/2011
    By David Lawder
    WASHINGTON | Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:16pm EDT
    (Reuters) – The United States on Monday gave a green light to sales of Libyan crude oil from rebel-held territory, giving a potential boost to forces battling Muammar Gaddafi.

    A U.S. Treasury Department official said Libyan rebels would not be subject to U.S. sanctions if they avoid entities linked to Gaddafi’s regime, which would allow them to sell oil under their control.

    “The rebels are not part of the government of Libya. They are not subject to the sanctions,” the official said.

    But the rebels, who retook a number of oil fields and terminals in eastern Libya over the weekend and were advancing west toward Gaddafi’s hometown of Sirte, must first establish clear lines of control and payment systems that do not involve Libya’s National Oil Corp, its central bank nor any other government entity, the official said.

    U.N. diplomats echoed these sentiments, helping further clarify the status of rebel-held oil, which could provide vital revenues to forces trying to topple Gaddafi.

    “There is no U.N. embargo on Libyan oil,” a U.N. Security Council diplomat told Reuters on condition of anonymity. “The rebels can sell oil. But they can’t do it through the Libyan National Oil Corporation.”

    No special permission would be needed from the Security Council’s Libya sanctions committee, which oversees compliance with the sanctions, for the rebels to sell oil, envoys said.

    The Treasury on February 25 banned U.S. transactions with Libya’s state oil producer, the central bank and other state entities in an effort to cut off revenues to Gaddafi’s regime, in line with sanctions imposed by the U.N. and European Union.

    It later put another 14 subsidiaries of the National Oil Corp, or NOC, on its blacklist, which also seeks to freeze any Gaddafi regime assets under U.S. jurisdiction.

    With the backing of Western air strikes, Libyan rebels have retaken the main oil terminal cities in eastern Libya, including Es Sider, Ras Lanuf, Brega, Zueitina and Tobruk.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/28/us-libya-oil-rebels-idUSTRE72R6X620110328

  185. I hear an interview, part of one where they asked Hillary if Al-Qaeda was part of the Rebel force in Libya and she sort of danced around the question.
    ****

    Intelligence on Libya rebels shows “flickers” of Qaeda

    By Missy Ryan and Susan Cornwell | Reuters – 2 hours 19 minutes ago
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Intelligence on the rebels battling Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi has shown “flickers” of al Qaeda or Hezbollah presence, NATO’s operations commander said, but U.S. officials said there were no indications militant groups are playing a significant role in Libya.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/libya-intelligence-shows-flickers-al-qaeda-u-20110329-074729-524.html

  186. How did someone like the fraud get such a prominent position like POTUS?
    =================

    That is a much better question!!!!

  187. Schumer needs to go
    ******

    BELTWAY CONFIDENTIAL
    POLITICS FROM THE NATION’S CAPITAL

    Schumer coordinates Dem budget attack on GOP

    TAGS: barbara boxer ben cardin budgets California connecticut delaware GOP Maryland richard blumenthal Sen. Charles Schumer Tom Carper
    COMMENTS (0) SHARE PRINT
    By: Susan Ferrechio 03/29/11 1:42 PM
    Chief Congressional Correspondent Follow Us @Examinerpolitic

    Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a member of the Democratic Senate leadership, got on a conference call with reporters Tuesday morning without realizing the reporters were already listening in. Schumer thought he was on a private line with four Democratic senators who were to talk with reporters about the current budget stalemate.

    Schumer instructed the group, made up of Sens. Barbara Boxer of California, Tom Carper of Delaware, Ben Cardin of Maryland and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, to tell reporters that the GOP is refusing to negotiate.

    He told the group to make sure they label the GOP spending cuts as “extreme.”

    “I always use extreme, Schumer said. “That is what the caucus instructed me to use.”

    Someone must have finally told Schumer that the media were listening and he stopped talking midsentence.

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/03/schumer-coordinates-dem-budget-attack-gop#ixzz1I2ZrEOZ2

  188. Someone on the site compared The US action in Libya to cops being called in for domestic abuse. I read the posting earlier and am unable to cite the individual who posted. After reading that analogy I was reminded of a scene on some network tv show I watched as I struggled with insomnia– One cop asked another cop who is most in danger when the police arrive at a domestic disturbance case? Other cop the responding officers.

    I called a friend who worked for NYPD and asked if the statement held any truth. She said absolutely and the danger is often from the victim. She said sometimes its a case of yes he was beating me but you are not going to beat him and other times as the police come in with force and by doing so by their nature represent a totalatarian type regime echoing what she was trying to escape. I was told the aggressor and the victim have to neutralized upon entry for everyone’s safety but big time for the responders.
    Additionally lots of back and forth here about testicles and is it sexist to say Hillary has them. Reflecting on that and spending a lot of time talking to former cops I was surprised to learn that according to those in blue that I know, I refer to the men in uniform as cops and the women as police officers. Have no idea why I do, but something others picked up on.
    Anywho I just thought that the domestic disturbance protocol was relevant as someone else had mentioned it.
    We went in as they needed help but let’s make sure they don’t turn on even one of our proud members who are offering the succor.
    We really need to scream and ask who are the rebels and if we are going to play policeman we need to make sure each side is neutralized at the pivotal moment of arrest.

  189. My brother-in-law has been a policeman for 25 years. He has had his nose broken twice on the job. Both were domestic disturbance cases.

  190. Southern Born
    All i mean is that we have to apply the same techniques when we act as a the world’s police. No man should ever hit a woman or vice versa but most domestic disturbances have more to do with power than anything else. When police arrest a guy for beating on a woman they do not give her a gun they advise her on how to be proactive and smart. Yes a woman has a right to be out at a bar flirting with other men but should she choose to go to the one her ex/beater frequents? It is a theme.

  191. blowme0bama
    March 29th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    ——————–
    I really don’t want to believe that. It’s just too evil for me.

  192. Henry, I should never comment when I’m so tired I can hardly see straight. What I meant to say was YEP..not yes as if I was answering your question.

    Headed for bed.

  193. the reason for the US intervention in Libya really has nothing to do with preventing a threatened slaughter in Benghazi or cobbling together an international coalition to forestall the advances of a madman.

    ================

    So why did Hillary push for it?
    ************

    Oil, lots of it, big bubbly crude that is …

    ===================

    Huh? You think that’s HILLARY’s only reason?

  194. The more I think about the speech, the angrier I get. How arrogant and how fucking audacious of this incompetent boob in the WH? He basically bashed his predecessors and said I am not like them and better. Where is the professional courtesy? where is the decorum? Where is the grace and dignity? And to top it, he did even do the right thing at the right time and how dare he? How dare he when he does not have any smart ideas about anything? It is all a teleprompter game to him with his fucking speechwriter.

  195. turndownobama
    I am very interested what is your stance on homosexuality? You champion a belief that allows and advocates murder of persons that may be homosexual and yet you scream of defending rights. Who are you? Guess you were born in 1950 but I am confounded as to whuy you would ever advocate for a religion that diminishes women? Please if you can explain to me how in any eay ever it is positive for a woman to exist in the environment you describe.

  196. henry
    March 29th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    And because damn more than ever I wish she was my president

    ———-
    Every time you appear, I think of this song…and then you post it.

    It always makes me feel better and a little sad.

  197. Someone on the site compared The US action in Libya to cops being called in for domestic abuse.

    ===============

    Me, though I didn’t say cops.

    Point is, you hear screams and find a family altercation where the father is threatening to kill the kids. So you protect the kids, usually by restraining or evicting the father. You don’t stop to find out what the fight was about or what club the kids belong to.

    You sure don’t stay away saying, “Well, if the wife left him, she might marry someone else who would be worse.”

    But also you don’t move in and try to control the family’s whole life from (ie ‘nation-building’). That would make you their next enemy. (So there’s a tie-in to your point about the ‘cop’ being in danger.)

  198. Clinton condemns Syrian govt “repression”
    1:26pm EDT
    LONDON, March 29 (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the Syrian government on Tuesday for the harsh way it had responded to pro-democracy protests.

    “In a series of side meetings I also had the chance to discuss a number of issues, including Syria,” Clinton said after a London meeting of international powers on Libya.

    “I expressed our strong condemnation of the Syrian government’s brutal repression of demonstrators, in particular the violence and killing of civilians in the hands of security forces,” she added.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/29/syria-clinton-idUSLDE72S27Y20110329

  199. Yep…obama gets the soft tap shoe and inane questions while Hillary and Gates take the fall for his ineptitude.

    Senate preps for Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates

    By MEREDITH SHINER | 3/29/11

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen are coming to the Hill Wednesday — and according to top lawmakers, they better be prepared to answer tough questions on Libya President Barack Obama didn’t answer in his Monday night speech.

    The three administration officials are slated to give a classified briefing to senators at 5 p.m. Wednesday, and both Republican and Democratic leaders told their rank-and-file members in their weekly lunches Tuesday not to be afraid to press the Obama surrogates for answers on what some fear might be a larger commitment than initially indicated.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) even told his colleagues that if they felt like the information they received in the briefing was unsatisfactory, they could explore legislative options to challenge the White House.

    “I told my caucus to come loaded with all your questions, ask questions in this classified setting and then if you want to do more legislatively, you’re entitled to do that,” Reid said Tuesday afternoon. “The war powers act, we believe is valid and very clear, setting forth a time line, and I read it to my caucus today.”

    Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) called the meeting with Clinton, Gates and Mullen “an opportunity for us to follow up further on what’s happening in the last 24 hours,” adding that the president’s remarks in a speech to the nation Monday “were a step in the right direction.”

    But in line with many members of his caucus who have expressed reservations about the U.S. mission in Libya, McConnell also said Obama “didn’t answer every question,” but that Republicans would “continue to post those questions to Secretary Gates and Secretary Clinton” in the classified briefing.

    When asked which questions he’d like to see answered, McConnell was suggested that even the most basic questions about American engagement in the North African country have yet to be answered.

    “What is the ultimate outcome? What’s the desired outcome?,” McConnell asked reporters. “If our policy isn’t regime change, what is our policy?”

    Clinton, Gates and Mullen are likely to face tough questions from senators who span the ideological spectrum.

    Maine Republican Olympia Snowe, one of the more moderate members of her conference, for example, came out with one of the strongest statements questioning the president’s address Monday.

    “In March 2003, as our nation began the invasion of Iraq, then Major General David Petraeus, who at the time was commander of the 101st Airborne Division, said ‘Tell me how this ends,’” Snowe said in a statement. “Unfortunately, President Obama failed to answer the question of how our current involvement in Libya will end and how long it will take to get there.”

    And Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) questioned Tuesday whether the White House went through the proper Congressional channels before beginning the mission in Libya.

    “The President has acknowledged no role for Congress in authorizing American participation in the intervention in Libya, despite the fact that by his own description, this was clearly an elective war. Neither the U.N. Security Council Resolution, nor the briefings provided by the Administration to members of Congress are a substitute for a declaration of war or other deliberate Congressional authorization,” Lugar said.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52163.html

  200. US senators press Clinton on anti-Israel ‘incitement’

    WASHINGTON — Twenty-seven US senators pressed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Tuesday to make clear to Palestinian leaders that any incitement to violence against Israel or Jews is “not tolerable.”

    “We would like to know what specific steps you are taking to press for an end to this dangerous incitement,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter to Clinton urging action after the grisly stabbing slayings of a family of five Israelis, including three children.

    “The Itamar massacre was a sobering reminder that words matter, and that Palestinian incitement against Jews and Israel can lead to violence and terror,” the group, which included Democrats and Republicans, said in their message.

    “We urge you to redouble your efforts to impress upon the Palestinian leadership that continuing to condone incitement is not tolerable. We also urge you to consider focusing adequate training and educational programs in the West Bank and Gaza that promote peaceful coexistence with Israel,” they said.

    Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas has denounced the early March attack at the Itamar settlement in the West Bank near the northern city of Nablus as “abominable, inhuman and immoral.”

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has blamed Palestinian incitement for creating an atmosphere that led to the killings — widely believed to have been carried out by Palestinians — and Abbas has flatly rejected the charge.

    In the wake of the Itamar attack as well as a bomb attack on a crowded Jerusalem bus stop last week, US lawmakers have stepped up appeals for President Barack Obama’s administration to do more against Palestinian “incitement.”

    The 27 US senators told Clinton they had “serious concern over continuing incitement directed against Jews and Israel within the Palestinian media, mosques and schools, and even by individuals or institutions affiliated with the Palestinian Authority.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jKJC_kLi9em4-bt3ZOHF6V2TeOYg?docId=CNG.e56cc9d762fa430a90fd4ad4e960a848.ba1

  201. turndownobama
    Missed the point or manipulate as you frequently do
    When A cop responds they have a duty to protect. You went from your last reference to it being about a cop going into a situation where there where no children or otherwise other dependent persons to where that is now the big bad guy cop having to take all things into consideration.
    I agree the cops job is to protect all with the best possible outcome– which means the officers must have a plan going in.
    I am one proud islamaphobic. Call me it all you want. I think islam sucks.
    I make zero apologies.
    How you defend something which espouses subjugation of women in extreme measures makes me think that you just post here to get a rise and have been doing it for quite a while.
    Sadly I think you are extremely perceptive but a tool none the less

  202. pm317 – I stand by my belief that there is a huge difference between religion and agnosticism/atheism, both in the practice and in the original path to it. IOW, I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks that agnosticism/atheism is like a religion.

  203. I read an article which said that we don’t get oil from Libya, it goes to two different European countries (I believe France may have been one). So if we’re fighting for oil, we’re not fighting for OUR oil.

  204. Heuvos means “egg” (may be plural, I don’t know) in Spanish. I assume this was put forward tongue in cheek.

    If not, I’d also turn that one down. It’s not gender neutral, so it wouldn’t be fair to men. Also, if a person really wanted to get picky, it could be ageist – since we are born with all the eggs we’ll ever have, we continually have fewer and fewer. Therefore, an older woman could never have the “eggs” (sorry, I speak English) that a younger one could.

    “Spine” is a long established term, eg. “s/he needs to get a spine”. I personally don’t feel any need for another term. Others will do as they will.

    Maybe it would be more palatable if it were translated into another language…? How do you say “spine” in Arabic?

  205. If people like Gingrich and Santotum ran this country, pretty soon they’d be escalating their own means of abuse of women and glbt’s.

    All fundamentalist sects should be condemned equally on grounds of WHOM they persecute, rather than on the weapons they are able to use. We shoudn’t let people like Gingrich distract us from the Pope’s sins, by pointing at Muslims. All such sects, Christian as well as Muslim, do as much persecution of women and glbt’s as the Secular Humanists(tm) in their nations will let them get away with.

  206. I read an article which said that we don’t get oil from Libya, it goes to two different European countries (I believe France may have been one). So if we’re fighting for oil, we’re not fighting for OUR oil.
    ********
    Oil is a world wide commodity so if Europe needs oil, price goes up and oil will follow. Oil is not entirely “fungible” because of varying grades of oil requiring different types of refinery capacity, etc.

  207. More evil, bat-shit crazy Rehugs. Unfortunately, the Dims, Greens, Libertarians aren’t that far behind.

    “Indiana official urged Wisconsin governor to stage fake assassination attempt”

    An Indiana deputy prosecutor urged Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker to stage a violent provocation in order to discredit opposition to his attack on public employees and facilitate a police crackdown on protesters, according to February 19 email uncovered by the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism.

    Carlos F. Lam, a deputy prosecutor from southern Indiana and a long-time Republican operative, told Walker “the situation in WI presents a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation. If you could get an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions’ cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the public unions.”

    The fake assassination attempt, Lam argued, would be attributed to protesters and undercut the view that the demonstrations against Walker were “a democratic uprising.”

    Lam’s email was sent the same day another Indiana prosecutor, state Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox, used his private Twitter account to suggest Wisconsin police “use live ammunition” to clear out the thousands of protesters occupying the State Capitol building in Madison. Cox was forced to resign after Mother Jones magazine made his comments public last month.

    Lam’s first response to the exposure was to deny he sent the message to Walker, even though it bore his email and Internet Protocol (IP) address. “I am flabbergasted and would never advocate for something like this,” he told a reporter from the Madison-based Center for Investigative Journalism. Lam then suggested political enemies had hacked into his account.

    In the early morning hours of last Thursday, however, as the story by the investigative journalism group was about to be published, Lam submitted his resignation, admitting he had sent the email.
    (snip)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/wisc-m29.shtml

  208. “All fundamentalist sects should be condemned equally on grounds of WHOM they persecute, rather than on the weapons they are able to use.”

    OKAY I HAVE TO SAY THAT IS BAT SHIT CRAZY

    Sorry had to yell

  209. SHV we both used bat shit crazy independently of one another at the same time, if I were my half Cherokee half Irish great grandmother I’d be looking at how “bat shit crazy” corresponded to the numbers on the telephone and playing those numbers tomorrow.

  210. Shadowfax
    March 29th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    andyp

    There is quite a bit more to becoming tenured than just publishing. The published article has to be a piece of work that others, outside that school see worthy enough to write a letter of recommendation for tenure about, for that candidate. Also, the letters are averaged, not one good one outranks others.

    Then there are hoops in that (law) school that need to be met, teaching, benchmarks, etc.

    Then when all the requirements are met, the tenure faculty as a whole, in the entire Law school have to vote in favor of that candidate being accepted.

    It is not a shoe in situation, nor can a couple of people push someone though the system.
    _____________

    Obama didn’t get that far. He had published nothing to examine. I swear I read the Chicago Law School website and I saw what I said I saw on the front page. It was very, very early that I checked. However, it got scrubbed and changed shortly thereafter and they said that he was, indeed a law professor. I saw it with my own eyes.

    I did a lot of checking on him in the beginning because there was no record. I checked the Illinois senate site as well and saw how often he voted present. I determined early on that he really accomplished nothing in his life but used his charm to have others carry the heavy work while he got the credit.

  211. I want to see icky icky pooh pooh’s birth certificate. So do several million people. yahoo posted via ap that people don’t care
    hogwash
    I care. i want to see it!
    Really i am confounded by the fact that he can send my nephew into harms way but he will mot show his birth certificate.

  212. “Spine” is a long established term, eg. “s/he needs to get a spine”.

    ==============

    “Guts” has more of the attitude wanted.

  213. Obama Approval Hits New Low….. and thats the fellating Quinnipac.

    A new Quinnipiac poll finds American voters disapprove 48% to 42% of the job President Obama is doing and say 50% to 41% that he does not deserve to be re-elected in 2012, both all-time lows.

    http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1575

    lowest ever with them. wonder how low it actually is.

  214. Past ties between Gadhafi, Farrakhan, Obama, U.S. Muslim groups raising questions

    WASHINGTON — As President Barack Obama sought Monday to explain to the nation the U.S. military action in Libya which he authorized, past associations between Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi and U.S. Muslim organizations, some of which have been linked to Obama, are attracting attention.

    Thus far mainstream political and media figures are not making an issue of those associations, but longtime observers of the Washington political scene are taking note. In 2009, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) asked the Libyan ruler for what was estimated to be tens of millions of dollars to distribute one million copies of the Koran to Americans, particularly government officials.

    “We hope for your noble generosity in taking this project under your wing, so you will be in the vanguard, as we have come to expect of you,” CAIR executive director Nihad Awad told Gadhafi in a meeting in New York. “God willing, you will as you have promised us, be the first to take the lead in this project.”

    The meeting was said to have been one of several between leading American Muslims and Gadhafi. They included leaders of the Nation of Islam, with which Barack Obama was associated in the 1990s, specifically in assisting with the organization of the 1995 Million Man March.

    The head of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, has attacked Obama for U.S. participation in the NATO assault on Libya.

    On March 21, Awad acknowledged that CAIR solicited Gadhafi. But the American Muslim director said the Libyan ruler did not respond.

    “We never received a penny from his group, from his government,” Awad said.

    Awad as well as two colleagues, CAIR chairman Larry Shaw and spokesman Ibrahim Hooper, met Gadhafi during his visit to the United Nations in September 2009. The three Americans called Gadhafi “the world Islamic popular leader” and then asked for Libyan funds to launch the Muslim Peace Foundation. One goal of the foundation was to distribute one million Korans throughout the United States in an effort to bolster the image of Islam.

    Until 2007, Americans were prohibited from receiving money from Libya, which was on the State Department’s list of terrorist sponsors. CAIR also sent a delegation to Saudi Arabia to solicit $50 million for the group.

    “We want to assure you that Muslims in America are your brothers and supporters,” Shaw, a southern state representative, was quoted as telling Gadhafi. “They share with you your interests and aspirations.”

    A minister and attorney has asserted that Farrakhan was a major influence on both Obama and the black community. E. W. Jackson, bishop of the Exodus Faith Ministries, cited Obama’s role as organizer and “enthusiastic supporter” of the Nation of Islam leader during the so-called “Million Man March” in Washington in 1995.

    “Obama clearly has Muslim sensibilities,” Jackson, who does not claim a personal friendship with Obama, said. “He sees the world and Israel from a Muslim perspective. His construct of ‘The Muslim World’ is unique in modern diplomacy. It is said that only The Muslim Brotherhood and other radical elements of the religion use that concept. It is a call to unify Muslims around the world.”

    In 2004, Abdul Rahman Al Amoudi, founder of several American Muslim groups, was sentenced to 23 years for receiving money from Gadhafi as part of a plot to kill Saudi King Abdullah. During the 1990s, Al Amoudi served as an Islamic adviser to then-President Bill Clinton.

  215. lorac, I was just trying to say that atheistic response is also well organized historically not that one has to label it a religion.

  216. http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/03/29/obama-libya-address-ratings/

    President Obama’s speech viewership keeps on slipping.

    Monday night’s policy address on Libya delivered 25.6 million viewers, continuing the president’s trend of declining ratings for his issue-oriented telecasts.

    The speech was down 12% from Obama’s address on Iraq last August (29.2 million), which fell 9% from his speech on the Gulf Coast oil spill in June (32.1 million), which in turn dropped 21% from his Afghanistan speech back in December of 2009 (40.8 million). Last night’s address could have been dinged by starting slightly before primetime, at 7:30 p.m. (which also kept Obama from making ABC choose between the commander-in-chief and airing Dancing With the Stars at its usual time).

    The president’s telecast was carried across eight networks, including ABC, CBS, NBC, TEL, CNN, CNBC, Fox News, and MSNBC.

  217. No one cares what President “Who Give a Crap” has to say anymore. Maybe because it is all lies, half-truths or all about him. See Tom in Paine article cited above.

    Admin – thanks.

  218. SHV
    March 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am
    ————–
    I guess it is timely to write this note because it addresses both religion and status of women that is going on here. According to Merlin Stone (and may be others) there was a female religion that worshiped female deities as early as 7000 BC (or even earlier 25000 BC to the last goddess temple in 500 AD. One of the reasons was that women giving birth was not necessarily well understood and viewed as divine.
    ___________________

    Giving birth is divine, woman is co-creator with god, she can do what no man can – create a human being, give life. That is the reason why she is now, and for the most part always has been, Feared.

    Any woman who reads what I just wrote and is startled wants to bow your head and say “no, no”. You need to know that is a learned response and not a true one.

    A source of good information on some early humans is Marija Gimbutas. She formulated a whole new area of study called archaeomythology. She doesn’t claim, and rightly I think, that in the culture she studied women ruled, she says everyone seemed to be equal, that they settled in beautiful places – the bends in rivers etc. Their remains can be found in individual graves with something from their lives which said something abut them. Later invaders came and conquered these early people and they settled in fortified hill tops. The remains of a man from this culture is found with other sacrificial bodies, animals and other humans.

    I found Marija through a comment on this blog linking to an article called “Hidden in plain sight”. Her work and the products of her excavations were on display in NYC and being co-opted by a man with no mention of her or credit given to her. One of the artifacts from that exhibition fascinated me and I have focused on it and let it lead me for almost a year now. It has been a deep and rich experience.

  219. turndownobama
    March 29th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    ===============================

    This was a very lame attempt at being funny.

  220. Instead of criticizing the Pope, I applaud his stand with regards to Islam. The real sin is that there are many who are afraid to confront a religion that promotes world jihad in the name of their god. Where Jesus said “love thy neighbor…”, Mohammed exhorted his followers to use the sword as a means to conquer and subjugate them.

  221. I wonder if the Insider has been a trump plant all along?

    So now I want to talk about the candidate I think could defeat President Obama and make him a one-termer. Never considered this person until a couple months ago when I was told he was thinking very seriously about being the Republican candidate. At first I thought it was something of a joke, or some kind of marketing gimmick, but since then others have confirmed its legit – and considerable money is already being spent in preparation. And you know what – I think this guy could win. He really could. And I would gladly work for this campaign…

    Donald Trump.

    He has name recognition that is as great as Obama’s – perhaps greater. He could easily spend $50 million or more of his own money on the campaign – that alone makes him as viable as any of the others. And there are stirrings of significant donors – companies fed up with Obama’s draconian attacks on American business, who could easily raise tens of millions more on behalf of a Trump campaign. He’s well versed in dealing with the media. He already has a boots on the ground organization that could readily engage in a national campaign. He has far more international experience than any other candidate would – including the current President of the United States. And here is something that most aren’t talking about – but it has the Obama reelection team already worried…Donald Trump enjoys strong support among the union rank and file. His words against China – jobs going to China, is brilliant. Union members – not the far left union leadership, but the union members themselves…many of them would vote for Trump over Obama. Similar to what we saw with Reagan in the 1980s. While the union leadership bitched and moaned about Reagan, many of the union members themselves quietly voted for the guy. It infuriated us, but there was nothing we could do about it. The blue collar union guys trusted Reagan. The same thing would play out with Trump. Donald Trump would make Obama have to spend money in places like New York, while he would also likely win a state like Florida, which is home to a lot of New York big money. The dynamics of a Trump campaign – I find it a fascinating prospect. He could defeat Obama – he really could. And he can play tough. All of the baggage Obama carries that Republicans are too afraid to bring up – too willing to remain politically correct. Too afraid to be seen as attacking the “Black” president…I don’t think Donald Trump would have that fear. And you can’t tell me there aren’t a lot of voters out there screaming at their televisions or radios or whatever, wondering why somebody doesn’t call Obama out on his bullshit. Just lay it out there. Stop playing nice, right. The goddamn country is at stake here and the Republicans are still playing nice. The frustration of that must be huge among conservative voters in America – and they still make up the largest block of overall voters. That frustration is waiting to have somebody speak to it, and Donald Trump, in my opinion, is the best potential candidate right now to do just that.

    Trump 2012.

    Defeat Obama 2012.

    I would love to work for that campaign…

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-election-2012-how-obama-wins-who-can-defeat-him/#ixzz1I5guNYYm

  222. Although my gut feel is that Ghadaffi would have gone on a murdering rampage if the US and others did not prevent him from doing so, I too wonder who these rebels are. Is the US being the fool here? I have read bits and pieces of comments from these rebels in which they seem to appreciate the help that we are offering, but will this appreciation turn to disdain immediately after their leaders take power in Libya? If 20% of the foreign fighters in Iraq are of Libyan background, it has to make one wonder about them. For a country that is Islamic, yet run by someone like Ghadaffi who I believe uses force to keep radical Islam in check, I have to wonder who our friends are in Libya, or if we even have any. I suspect that we really don’t have friends there. I think Ghadaffi is as Muslim as Hilter was Christian. They are/were not true believers, but use/d religion to further their own personal agendas.

  223. I smell a big ole coverup because there is no way in hell that was not political pressure and dodginess.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-clears-doj-in-black-panther-case/2011/03/29/AFY6bTzB_story.html

    Report clears Justice Department in Black Panther case

    After reviewing thousands of pages of internal e-mails and notes and conducting 44 interviews with department staff members, the OPR reported that “department attorneys did not commit professional misconduct or exercise poor judgment” and that the voter-intimidation case against the Panthers was dismissed on “a good faith assessment of the law” and “not influenced by the race of the defendants.”

    The OPR’s findings were released in a letter Tuesday to Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) that was signed by department attorney Robin Ashton.

    The probe was an outgrowth of a political controversy over a 2008 voter-intimidation case against members of the New Black Panther Party. Some conservative lawyers, politicians and commentators have said that the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division improperly narrowed that case — part of broader allegations among conservatives that the Obama Justice Department has failed to protect the civil rights of white voters. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and other Justice officials have strongly denied the charge.

    In a statement, Smith, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee and is expected to hold hearings on whether the department is politicized, said the review — which was limited to the actions of attorneys in the case — “did not address the Civil Rights Division’s misguided policy of using racial considerations when determining whether to enforce voting rights laws. The Division should protect the voting rights of all Americans, regardless of race, gender, religion or political affiliation.”

    Michael Yaki, a liberal member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, disagreed. The department was “vindicated” by the report, he said. “There was no evidence of racial bias in the decision making of the Justice Department under Attorney General Holder.”

    An investigation by Justice’s inspector general is ongoing.

  224. well I must confess I was prepared to go tete-tete with turndown regarding domestic abuse cases even to go so far as to cite instances where the “abused” recanted and attempted to file charges against the responding officers in situations where sharia has been evoked, but par for the course when it knows it is losing a battle it retreats.

  225. I am too cynical to get excited by a Trump run, but if he runs, I suppose he’s marginally better than the rest of the GOP doodz. At least there will be drama and much firing.

  226. moononpluto
    March 30th, 2011 at 7:02 am
    Obama Approval Hits New Low….. and thats the fellating Quinnipac.
    &&&&&&&

    A little more from moonpluto’s link:

    American voters disapprove 48 – 42 percent of the job President Barack Obama is doing and say 50 – 41 percent he does not deserve to be re-elected in 2012, both all-time lows, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

    This compares to a 46 – 46 percent job approval rating and a 45 – 47 percent split on the President’s re-election in a March 3 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. In a hypothetical 2012 matchup, President Obama gets 36 percent of the vote to 37 percent for an unnamed Republican challenger.

    Democrats approve 80 – 13 percent of the job Obama is doing, but disapproval is 81 – 9 percent among Republicans and 50 – 39 percent among independent voters. Men disapprove 52 – 41 percent while women split 44 – 44 percent.

  227. henry, you’re funny today. I know you are not intending to be so, but I write the previous sentence with admiration.

  228. I have a friend who is getting friendly with the century mark.
    He is a homosexual and been there done that for almost everything you can think of. he is beyond a hoot and when I think of him I think Quinten Crisp meets Truman Capote meets Target. He retired almost- fifty years ago from the financial sector and is still a figure in what I call “the widows two pennies” charity club. Several

  229. More on the funny polling numbers:

    RCP Average 47 46.8 +0.2
    Quinnipiac 42 48 -6
    Gallup 48 45 +3
    Rasmussen 43 56 -13
    CBS News 49 41 +8
    CNN 51 47 +4
    FOX News 49 44 +5

    Rasmussen has gotten worse for him, and CBS is propping him so the RCP Average is just barely in the positive, +0.2. And CNN is the only one showing him with over 50% approval.

  230. At my Dad’s reception after his funeral, I reconnected with two elderly white women, one a family member through marriage, and another, a friend of my Dad’s through marriage. Both voted for Øbama, and both were still making comments in support of him. I think that they were suprised when I said to them that I was a Democrat who did not like him, and voted against him. They went in defensive mode after I said that, with the relative being a little more aggressive in her comments which I can’t even recall right now because they were media inspired caca de toro. On the other hand, the friend was more timid in her support of him, basically saying that she voted for him, but they are all the same. Big cop out in my opinion, but I think she is the type of person that could be persuaded to vote against him this time if the right opponent is found. By the way, I let them know that I supported and voted for Hillary. I also said that since my vote did not count in the primary in Florida, the Democrats were not going to get my vote for their messiah. For me, I don’t think that there are many Democrats who will argue my point without feeling a bit uncomfortable. How would they like to feel that their vote didn’t count? I will continue to say that I supported Hillary, but not Øbama. They need to know that there are Democrats that actually feel this way so that they themselves can break the chains that bind them.

  231. Unlike wannabe obama, movie star of B movies, Hillary has earned her popularity internationally.

    The evolution of Hillary Clinton
    A Global View

    By Beth Day Romulo
    March 30, 2011

    MANILA, Philippines – When Hillary Rodham Clinton recently announced that at the end of her term as US Secretary of State, she will not seek any further public office, it came as a shock to many men as well as women who have followed her remarkable career in public service. At 63, she would appear to be in her prime. At one time, rumors circulated that she would again run for president. But as her husband, former President Bill Clinton joked, Hillary is more interested in the title of grandmother than that of commander-in-chief.

    First Lady, Senator, Secretary-of-State – she has held the top positions available to American women in political life, and she has travelled more, as Secretary of State according to a Newsweek profile, than any of her predecessors, visiting 79 different countries in all, including Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, and Yemen. Since she spends so much time in flight, her plane is fitted with a pull-out bed, a humidifier, and a roomy closet. So far as press photos indicate, her wardrobe seems to consist of well-cut pant suits, a comfortable and classy uniform for busy women, which German Chancellor Angela Merkel has also adopted.

    Hillary Rodham first came to international attention with her commencement speech at Wellesley College in 1974, when she called for an end to the war in Vietnam. In 1995, she made the cover of Time magazine as honorary chairman of the US delegation to the United Nations World Conference on Women in Beijing where she seized the opportunity to spell out American values in regards to women, before an audience of thousands of women and men from 180 countries. “If there is a message that echoes from this conference,” she said, “it is that human rights are women’s rights… As long as girls and women are valued less, fed less, fed last, overworked, underpaid, not schooled, and subject to violence… the potential of the human family to create a peaceful, prosperous world will not be realized.”

    The enthusiastic international reception of her Beijing speech convinced her that she could be a voice for the powerless. The second most popular woman in America today, according to a Newsweek poll (the most popular is talk show host and philanthropist Oprah Winfrey), Clinton’s message to the American people is “Let us stand up for those who are vulnerable to being left out or marginalized.” At the State Department, she has set up a small grants program to support gender equality.

    As those of us who had the good fortune to meet her when she visited Manila with her husband, realize, Hillary Clinton is an approachable, practical, hands-on public official. She pays regular visits to schools, town meetings, and shelters for abused women, wherever she goes. She talks to individual women, makes notes, and follows up on special cases. Describing her method of promoting human rights, she told a reporter: “You just keep at it. Take it piece by piece. Seize the ground and then hang onto it, and then move forward a little bit more.” It reminds me of Carlos Romulo’s instruction to his junior officers in the Department of Foreign Affairs about how to conduct a diplomatic negotiation. “You never start at the top which may be fraught with problems. You start with something simple you can agree on. And then move on from there.”

    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/312088/the-evolution-hillary-clinton

  232. I see that I created a new spelling for Gaddafi above. Sorry. I will try to remember to use the more prevalant spelling.

  233. 55% Have a Favorable Opinion of Hillary Clinton

    30/03/2011

    The FINANCIAL — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is viewed by many as the chief advocate of U.S. military intervention in Libya, and voters view her slightly less favorably than they did just over a month ago.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters have at least a somewhat favorable impression of Clinton, down five points from last month. Thirty-eight percent (38%) now view the former New York senator unfavorably. The latest findings include 26% who have a Very Favorable opinion of Clinton and 19% who share a Very Unfavorable view of her.

    Clinton’s favorables have consistently been in the mid- to high 50s since she became secretary of State in January 2009.

    Forty-four percent (44%) of voters continue to hold a favorable view of Defense Secretary Robert Gates, showing virtually no change since November 2008 when President Obama decided to hold him over from the Cabinet of his predecessor, George W. Bush. Twenty-nine percent (29%) have an unfavorable opinion of Gates who recently announced that he will step down this year. This includes 12% with a Very Favorable opinion of him and eight percent (8%) who view him Very Unfavorably. Twenty-seven percent (27%) still don’t know enough about Gates to voice any kind of opinion of him.

    Eighty-four percent (84%) of Democrats have a favorable impression of Clinton, a view shared by a plurality (49%) of voters not affiliated with either major political party. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Republicans hold an unfavorable opinion of the former first lady.

    Democrats view Gates, a Republican, more favorably than do unaffiliated voters and members of his own party.

    Voters have mixed feelings about Obama’s decision to use the U.S. military to help rebels in Libya, and nearly half agree that he should have gotten Congress’ okay first. Few voters view the North African country as important to America’s own security.

    Clinton and Gates are two of the more well-known members of the president’s Cabinet. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is also one of the better-known members, but only 25% of voters have at least a somewhat favorable impression of her.

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is a top player on the administration’s economic team, but more than one-third of voters now say they don’t know enough about him to venture an opinion of the longtime government official. Attorney General Eric Holder, too, is an unknown political figure to slightly more than one-third of voters. Both men are viewed favorably by just one-in-four voters.

    Other Cabinet members who are far less well-known are Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, Energy Secretary Steven Chu, Education Secretary Arne Duncan and Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of the federal Department of Health and Human Services.

    http://finchannel.com/news_flash/World/84228_55%25_Have_a_Favorable_Opinion_of_Hillary_Clinton/

  234. basil9
    March 30th, 2011 at 9:54 am
    ==============================

    Thanks for the link. To answer you, I don’t think that the Insider is a Trump plant.

  235. One other comment before I go today. It’s sad for me to realize that the first female president of the US is Valerie Jarrett. Talk about monsters!

  236. I think we have to factor into our analysis the very likely possibility that through sustained NATO action, Gadafi will fold, and the further possibility that this will happen sooner rather than later. In that case, Obama and big media will seize that opportunity to proclaim his greatness and laud the putative success of the so called Obama doctrine. Such hypocrisy must be shown for what it is, and I rather suspect that the foreign press will be willing to give credit where credit is due, which is to France. And we must try to ensure that Hillary gets the credit as well for doing the heavy lifting and working with the international community to not only respond to the humanitarian crisis, but to undercut Obama’s initial position of non intervention. Pictures of him on vacation, dithering and avoiding the problem must be front and center to rebut the revisionist history served up to the ignoranti by the corrupt and manipulative media.

  237. lorac:
    “I can’t imagine a single man agreeing to refer to strength as “having ovaries”.

    “Gosh, they don’t even call each other “bastard” anymore. That’s not bad enough. Now they call each other “bitches” – THAT is an insult! I don’t even like when people call men names like “pussy” – again, to demean them, to say they’re weak, they imply the other is like a woman. To say they’re strong, they refer to their own body part. Woman = weak, inferior, second class. I can’t stand how our language perpetuates the supposed inferiority of women. So, I totally get where you’re coming from.”

    **************

    And I totally get where you’re coming from.

    However, you’re off tune in saying “our language perpetuates the supposed inferiority of women”. It is not the fault of the language. The language is a neutral quantity; the wrongs you correctly see are the fault of the people who use the language, specifically in their desire to insult, demean or, on the contrary, to glorify or exonerate.

    The Brits, Canadians, Scots, Irish, etc., use the same language we do but are not prone to misusing the language for the purpose of demeaning or glorifying other people or groups. The idea of throwing insults at people is an American cultural trait which, in my experience, can only be overcome on a one-by-one basis: in your communications with your family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, occasional acquaintances, or on blogs. In such contexts, you can set the example of respectful speech by yourself and even demand it of others.

    If you do so, you may not think your speech has all the impact you want to give it; but if you watch your language closely and avoid exaggerations, expletives and the like, you actually get more of a rise out of your interlocutors, especially when you disagree with them. I’ve seen this with my own interventions here on this blog, but also with my brother’s neighbors in New Jersey and my mother’s neighbors in Florida. It drives people nuts to see that their attacks have no effect on you.

  238. Hillary has left her mark in so many positive ways…

    Should post Hillary Clinton era be a concern for Southeast Asia?
    March 30, 2011

    The Cable’s Josh Rogin shared an open secret in an edition last week, namely that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton does not plan to continue in the Obama administration should the president win a second term in office. A post-Clinton Foggy Bottom is a real concern for Southeast Asia.

    Southeast Asia’s worry is this: Clinton and Assistant Secretary of State Kurt Campbell clearly saw the need and opportunity to engage the region, and they grasped it — firmly and decisively. The timing could not have been more important.

    An ascendant China was naturally bound to test the limits of the regional influence it garnered during its effective charm offensive, kicked off after the Asian financial crisis at the end of the 1990s.

    A post-Clinton Foggy Bottom is a real concern for Southeast Asia.
    Beijing tested its power by asserting its sovereignty and ‘core interests’ in the South China Sea, taking on Tokyo over the Senkaku and Diaoyu Islands. Southeast Asia’s atavistic anxieties were immediately triggered, and it sought strong and enduring signals of US commitment and engagement in the region. Clinton and her Asia team, led by Campbell and supported strongly by Jeff Bader and his Asia directorate at the National Security Council, responded.

    They signed the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation (TAC); forthrightly articulated an engagement strategy with Burma, which allowed the United States to have a place at the table with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN); and immediately institutionalised that opening with the US-ASEAN Leaders Meeting and by joining the East Asia Summit, with clear guidance from Clinton that the United States saw ASEAN as ‘the fulcrum’ of emerging regional architecture.

    Additional steps have been taken by the State and Defence Departments to shore up traditionally weaker relationships in Indonesia and Vietnam, as well as welcoming the warm embrace from Prime Minister Najib Razak in Malaysia to reinforce ties and take them to a new political level. Importantly, the United States has climbed back into the trade game — or is leaning in that direction at least — through reinvigorating the Korea-US Free Trade Agreement (KORUS) and putting its backing behind the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

    The effect of these collective actions has been impressive, but the question ASEAN is asking now is will the United States sustain its engagement through an enduring strategic focus and institutionalise that engagement? Is the current level of focus dependent on a highly committed Secretary Clinton and her super-motivated Asia team led by Assistant Secretary Campbell?

    The region would welcome further signals of commitment and specifically wants to see the United States institutionalize its presence in the region. At a time when Congress seems divided along partisan lines, and some members so narrowly focused on trimming deficits that national interests may come in second, there is reason for concern.

    The unimaginably tragic events in Japan will only heighten Southeast Asia’s concerns about long-term US commitment. Secretary Clinton should seal her legacy as ‘the Pacific secretary’ by working with Congress, civil society, the business community, and the administration to put enduring institutions in place to underpin the US commitment to a region of the world that is vital to our long-term national security and economic interests.

    http://thailand-business-news.com/asean/30002-should-post-hillary-clinton-era-be-a-concern-for-southeast-asia

    ———————-

    LOL…yes I know I am cheerleading for Hillary today. It’s so rare that so many positive articles come out about her at the same time. 🙂

  239. oops hit return to soon
    Anywho he is old as dirt but sharp as a tack and he told me he is so far beyond disgusted with the dims that as of this year he is stopping all donations the straw that broke his camels back was a benefit he went to that he believed was to support arts in education but 90% went to the Pittsburgh cultural Trust which supports the ballet/opera/orchestra. he says those of us who can afford 100 dollars a seat can easily pay 110 for the same seat and his 6 figure donation he thought was buying construction paper for toddlers.
    He is loaded and ancient and he feels betrayed. he is/was a huge Hillary supporter and finds bambi to be a sociopath. Questions where he should leave his considerable wealth as he is disgusted by it all. I of course said he should bequeath unto me, that was a no go– but I believe I have convinced him to donate 100% to St Judes

  240. Wbboei on news: “The 24 hour news cycle has changed this… because it requires a real time news room which is always adjusting to new stories. But the even larger problem is that set up takes most of the time, and content takes short shrift.
    It is nerve racking and there is little or no time to check out stories. They just go to press with whatever comes in and let the chips fall where they may.”
    _____________________

    Mrs. Smith: “The Internet is responsible for the demise of newspapers.”
    *****
    (1) wbboei was talking about TV coverage, not newspapers.
    (2) The success of some news organs on the Web, like Huff Po, is due to the Internet itself only insofar as Huff Po has no production costs and can publish a new article at any time it pleases.
    (3) The demise of newspapers began long before the advent of the Internet, and was due to a tendency of the public to prefer TV news, where you don’t have to make the effort to read, you get your news earlier, and you have the “advantage” of moving pictures.

    You have a good solution for newspapers:

    “Publishing a single newspaper at week’s end with special reports on various topics published the following Wednesday on the previous week’s news, reporting conclusions, mistakes and corrections consolidated into one day’s publication.”

    ***********

    I am no longer familiar with US newspapers, but there are examples of news organs in Europe that have done exactly what you propose. That is, they open special weekend editions or special reports with reviews of specific subjects or events. It essentially means converting to magazine format but with a current events orientation.

    But there is also the successful example of Le Parisien, a newspaper which remains a daily newspaper with no special reviews and enjoys an ever-rising popularity in France with newsstand/subscription rates covering the costs of a vast operation while the advertising revenues are just icing on the cake. It’s a family-owned (Amaury) enterprise and intends to remain so, though they now have a world-scale CEO, Philippe Carli, who is not of the family.

    Le Parisien does not owe its popularity to its centrist political orientation but to the results of extensive polling it did in the 90’s to find out what interested people most in a newspaper. They organized their editorial/writing staff and page layout accordingly. More importantly, the subjects they address are all down-to-earth and written in an everyman style much like that of the NY Daily News, but filled with in-depth investigative details and not entirely devoid of Jon Stewart-style humor.

    Better yet, their idea of a news conference is not to send in their primed-up journalists to drill a politician, but rather to call in a dozen of their readers to ask questions to a celebrity. That way, the celebrity – who is usually a politician – gets to handle questions that are on the common man’s mind and give an answer directly to them, without interference from journalists. The draw of this kind of ‘news conference’ is so great that even Sarkozy lined up for it, twice – once when he was Minister of the Interior (after the suburban car burnings of 2006) and once as President.

    So, there are ways for a newspaper to remain a newspaper and still succeed in today’s TV/Internet world. I think the NY Daily News is having less of a problem than the NY Times, and rightly so.

  241. AS of yet, a sad but true commentary – no matter who the WOMAN is….

    “First Lady, Senator, Secretary-of-State – she has held the top positions available to American women in political life,…”

    “available to American Women’ – WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE THIS!

  242. One other comment before I go today. It’s sad for me to realize that the first female president of the US is Valerie Jarrett. Talk about monsters!
    ——————-
    No I do not think she is president. She is more like Martin Boreman–a devious manipulative bureaucrat who hides in the shadow of power.

  243. wbboei – a good friend and a dogged and respected researcher would argue that. She seems to know who wears the pants in Obama’s Administration, and it is, alas, Jarret. I asked her point-blank.

  244. wbboei
    March 30th, 2011 at 10:46 am
    =========================

    Put it this way, she’s way too close for comfort. I believe that she has more say in the oval office than any female before her. I think Øbama is her mouthpiece.

  245. Please Please Please cannot waffles cry racism as the reason he will not seek a second term. if he gets out now and cries everyone was unfair to me he can make hundreds of millions as an ex-prez. he can golf and travel to his hearts content. I would contribute the max for hi to not run.

  246. JanH, thanks for sharing that. Beth Day Romulo is someone who can really appreciate the grace with which Hillary wield her diplomatic power, she is an American writer who is also the widow of Carlos P. Romulo, an incredible Philippine statesman who served as UN President in 1949 and was Gen Douglas MacArthur’s aide-de-camp in WWII.

  247. I need to create an “Impeach Valerie Jarrett” bumper sticker or something similar… mainly to get people familiar with her name, and to question who she is, and what her role is in the White House. The light needs to shine on that cockroach.

  248. There is no real public support for getting further engaged in Libya if this FOX poll is any indiction.

    Should US arm the rebels?

    Undecided. Qaddafi must go, but escalating the U.S. role is a concern. 3.75% (2,891 votes)

    Not yet. It’s always an option, but let’s learn more about the rebels. 28.21% (21,744 votes)

    No. Providing arms changes the U.S. mission to regime change. 59.3% (45,710 votes)

    Yes. If arming the rebels rids us of Qaddafi, so be it. 6.52% (5,025 votes)

    Other (post a comment). 2.21% (1,707 votes)

  249. wbboei
    March 30th, 2011 at 10:46 am
    =========================

    Put it this way, she’s way too close for comfort. I believe that she has more say in the oval office than any female before her. I think Øbama is her mouthpiece.

    ———————
    True. If Rove was Bush’s brain, this low life Jarrett is Obama’s . . . no the word brain does not work . . . maybe the word is consigliere–which was the advisor in a Mafia family. The line positions were boss, underboss, capos and soldiers. Consigliere was a staff position position. It is generally a bad thing for an organization when staff people acquire too much power. And so it is here.

  250. “she is an American writer who is also the widow of Carlos P. Romulo, an incredible Philippine statesman who served as UN President in 1949 and was Gen Douglas MacArthur’s aide-de-camp in WWII.”

    —————
    I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

  251. wbboei – a good friend and a dogged and respected researcher would argue that. She seems to know who wears the pants in Obama’s Administration, and it is, alas, Jarret. I asked her point-blank.
    ————————————-
    Well, you are right in the sense that nature abhors a vacuum. And when it comes to leadership, Obama himself is just that–a vacuum. He is risk adverse, indecisive and cannot confront problems. As a result, a staff person and long time confidante of low moral character has assumed that position to the great detriment of our nation. The resultant damage is present everywhere you look–from racist politics, to quid pro quo, to foreign policy failure, to job destruction, to bankrupting the country–you name it. a powerful position in an administration to the detriment of this nation. This is perhaps the sorriest chapter in our history. But Jarrett is still a staff person. If the American People understand what she is all about then they will want no part of her. We are better than that.

  252. JanH, and somewhat similar to Hillary, Carlos Romulo would probably have been president except for some primary floor vote trickery from his opponent within the party. After that he kept getting appointed Secretary of Foreign Affairs (I think he served 3 presidents in that role).

  253. JanH
    March 30th, 2011 at 10:35 am
    Unlike wannabe obama, movie star of B movies, Hillary has earned her popularity internationally.

    The evolution of Hillary Clinton
    A Global View

    By Beth Day Romulo
    March 30, 2011

    But as her husband, former President Bill Clinton joked, Hillary is more interested in the title of grandmother than that of commander-in-chief.
    &&&&&&&&

    I guess the key word there is, “joked”. You have to be in some kind of alternate universe, or hitting the hopium real hard, to think that for one second, Bill is withdrawing from the world of politics, and that Hillary should come home and plant petunias. If/when she becomes president, she can also be a wonderful grandma, albeit a rather busy one.

    But heck, think about all those grandmas, whether in inner cities, or out in the sticks, who have to fill in the void left by irresponsible children (on drugs, or up and left), and at age whatever are still raising little kids and working one or two jobs.

    So I think she’ll manage just fine. Little kids love running on the White House lawn! And as for planting petunias, if she’s too busy navigating important international and domestic issues, she can tell the gardner which colors she wants planted where.

    She’ll have time for retirement WHEN SHE’S GOOD AND READY!!

  254. I think Hillary and Bill decide to make all those remarks about Hillary quitting soon, and not running for President just so they could finally convince Obama to say ok to Libyan intervention.
    Obama is so paranoid about Hillary outshining him that he was probably dragging his feet just to make her look bad, thinking it’s all about 2012.

  255. Obama’s speech fell flat, did nothing. Not persuading anyone.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2011/voter_views_on_libya_show_little_change

    President Obama’s address to the nation Monday night doesn’t appear to have made voters more confident about his handling of the situation in Libya, nor has it made them feel more strongly that Libya is important to U.S. national security.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 43% of Likely U.S. Voters rate the Obama administration’s response to the Libya situation as good or excellent, marking little change from two previous surveys. Thirty percent (30%) give the administration poor marks, up from 21% earlier this month before the president committed U.S. forces to Libya. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Forty percent (40%) of voters felt at that time that the administration was doing a good or excellent job responding to the political crisis in Libya. Last week, with the U.S. military actively involved in Libya, 41% rated the Obama administration’s response as good or excellent, but 28% said it was doing a poor job.

    The numbers also worsened slightly for the president from last week when voters are asked if Libya is vital to U.S. national security these days. Twenty-seven percent (27%) of voters say yes, while 48% say no, up six points from a week ago. Twenty-four percent (24%) remain undecided.

    The latest survey was taken Monday and Tuesday nights, and the findings from the first night prior to the president’s speech and the second night after the speech show virtually no change on either question.

  256. no ones listening……it seems

    Unexpected: CNN goes to commercial; MSNBC has anchor talk over Obama speech; Fox News stays live with the president.

  257. lol, times have changed….

    CNN is skipping Obama’s speech to talk about Donald Trump’s questions about Obama’s birth certificate.

  258. So he goes to Harlem of all places with 50 rich cats from New York willing to pay $30,000.00 + for dinner with him at of all places Red Rooster. The residents of Harlem can’t afford to eat with him.

    What the “H” is he trying to prove?

  259. “I haven’t checked, but I’m pretty sure that a key “ingredient” of a religion is organization. A religion is an organized spirituality.”
    **********

    SHV: “I don’t want to go too far into the “weeds” but the “organize” seems to be a fundamental point of contention for the definition of religion.”
    *********

    You’re right, “religion” means just a subject that brings people together for collective activities. It usually refers to spiritual stuff, but scientology is rightly seen as a religion even though it doesn’t touch upon any religious matters, and free masons say they are a religion too, although no spiritual matters are imposed or discussed in free masonry. I often refer to the Rep party as a religion and its corporate free market ideology as Rep theology. Buddhism is a religion but it is godless and is nothing other than practical philosophy and not-so-practical ideals.

    As for “organization”, that is another thing altogether. The epitome of an organized religion is the Catholic Church. Some protestant sects have copied that organization to some degree, but generally the strongest level of organization in protestant sects is the pastor chosen by a given congregation. Same goes for Judaism, Islam, etc.
    Organization is not endemic to religion, but congregation around a given idea or set of ideals/rules is essentially to the meaning of religion. Taking it to an extreme, we could say that this blog constitutes a religion with common friends and adversaries.
    ********

    SHV: “Despite growing up in a “conventional mainstream Protestant” family and going to church for 16+ years, I don’t ever remember believing any of the religious doctrine, at any age.”
    ****

    What you’re saying here is that you, unlike humans, are not hard-wired for religion. What does that make you?

    In my own case, I also grew up with a strong evangelical education, much of which I have retained not because I was hard-wired for it or browbeaten into it but because it made sense to me and continues to make sense to me now that I am far beyond the age where I can be tricked into believing the unbelievable.

  260. To continue about WJC, Bill would view a HRC presidency as a chance to resume working on the vision that he and Hillary have shared over their lives together. Idealism tempered with centrist pragmatism, and the list of things to accomplish is daunting.

    THAT is why he sought the power of the presidency; not out of some need to seek glory and adulation. And this is why Hillary sought this office in 2008, and there are many in our country who hope she’ll be pursuing in the near future.

    The list of causes to fight for is long. The wrongs to be righted are numerous, left over damage from eight year of W and O’s first (and ONLY) term. In the process, faith can slowly be restored in the Democratic party (current reputation status: “Skeered and runnin'”) and restored in the country.

    It’s hard work, as Obumma has found out. His solution, as he’s done all his life, is to dodge it. “Hey, I never really played golf; the pres

    Her solution: “Let’s roll up our sleeves”. This is already being demonstrated as SoS, and you should see her front page photo on today’s NY Times, she looks to be the focus of the meeting of world (specifically NATO) leaders. I guess they are glad she’s there to negotiate, rather than Obama showing up, clueless and seeking to hog the limelight.

  261. It’s hard work, as Obumma has found out. His solution, as he’s done all his life, is to dodge it. “Hey, I never really played golf; the presidency seems like a great time to take up a hobby, and by golly, I’m going throw myself into it.”

    &&&
    Aide: “Sir, have you looked at the report”.

    Obama: “Not now, can’t you see I’m entertaining NBA Hall of Famers and we’re watching the Final Four NCAA game??!”

  262. I have to wonder who our friends are in Libya, or if we even have any. I suspect that we really don’t have friends there.

    [[ Bill said we should help those in Libya who asked for our help. Dunno how many friends we had in Kosovo before we helped them, but we sure have many friends in Kosovo now. ]]

    I think Ghadaffi is as Muslim as Hilter was Christian. They are/were not true believers, but use/d religion to further their own personal agendas.

    [[ I agree. And Obama too. ]]

  263. It drives people nuts to see that their attacks have no effect on you.

    =============

    I think Hillary and Sarah have noticed that too. 😉

  264. (Bill O’Reilly) Tonight on ‘The Factor’ Donald Trump enters the No Spin Zone! ooh hope Trump rips him a new one tonight.

  265. moononpluto

    (Bill O’Reilly) Tonight on ‘The Factor’ Donald Trump enters the No Spin Zone! ooh hope Trump rips him a new one tonight.

    ——
    Yup, I can’t wait until the spin doctor tries to control the conversation with the Donald.

  266. Jeswezy gave good info and also quoted wbboei:
    It is nerve racking and there is little or no time to check out stories. They just go to press with whatever comes in and let the chips fall where they may.”

    ======================

    For a good example of tv news — Hillary even said so publically — see Al Jazeera. A recent story I linked to here (h/t to Crawdad Hole) had a lot of European leaders and Hillary on in short clips, no hype, no visible narrative, etc. Dunno how much checking it takes to just let each leader have his/her say.

  267. Jeswezy gave good info and also quoted wbboei:
    It is nerve racking and there is little or no time to check out stories. They just go to press with whatever comes in and let the chips fall where they may.”

    ======================

    For a good example of tv news — Hillary even said so publically — see Al Jazeera. A recent story I linked to here (h/t to Crawdad Hole) had a lot of European leaders and Hillary on in short clips, no hype, no visible narrative, etc. Dunno how much checking it takes to just let each leader have his/her say.

  268. I need to create an “Impeach Valerie Jarrett” bumper sticker

    ====================

    People might just think she was on the Supreme Court or something. “Impeach President Jarrett”? “Impeach POTUS Jarrett”?

  269. If/when she becomes president, she can also be a wonderful grandma, albeit a rather busy one.

    =====================

    I hope she invites Sarah and Bristol for coffee, and all bring their babies. A playpen in the Oval Office!

  270. CNN is skipping Obama’s speech to talk about Donald Trump’s questions about Obama’s birth certificate.

    ===================

    Same time slot? ?!?

    Maybe Trump just bought CNN?

  271. Despite the strongly felt sentiments of the American People (see poll above) who are paying for this charade and must live with what is done in their name by corrupt Obama, if Gadafi does not fold within 72 hours, I believe you will learn that we are arming the rebels–just like we armed the Mojaadeen who later turned the weapons we gave them against them. The political imperative is now in play. As previously noted, what they want here is a fine little war in the middle east, which costs no American lives, has NATO cover, and which lets them argue that we are not on the side of dictators who repress their people, but democratic movements. The policy contradictions however are open and notorious, and the end result beyond regime change are far from clear given how little we know about this rag tag group. The worst moment for me last night came when that disgusting Lindsey Graham came on and compared them to our Revolutionary War patriots. He is a beady eyed little prick who loves to shoot them up.

  272. When I spoke of organization in religion, I was talking about shared rules, shared agreement to believe certain things (somebody parted seas, etc), shared meeting places, a structure (generally hierarchical) for the “professionals” of the religion, usually a shared book with the stories and beliefs, shared god within that religion, shared songs to be sung at the worship services within that religion, shared practices (some eat wafers, some lay on hands, some speak in voices, etc, depending on religion/sect). Organization and rules. Lots of it. Very organized.

  273. However, you’re off tune in saying “our language perpetuates the supposed inferiority of women”. It is not the fault of the language. The language is a neutral quantity

    Really? Words have meanings. Insults are not neutral.

Comments are closed.