Presidents’ Day In Hell

It’s Presidents’ Day so the Hell called MSNBC decided to acquire viewers, or a viewer, by airing a special broadcast featuring a real president. Jabba The Hut Chris Matthews thinks he can avoid the fate of Keith Olbermann by doing a special program featuring President Bill Clinton. Chris Matthews, the slimy host of Mudball, thinks we will end the boycott/girlcott of the cable snoozefest in order to get a glimpse of Bill Clinton. Ain’t gonna happen.

The boycott/girlcott of MSNBC is still on. We are imposing Sharia law. Anyone who watches MSNBC will have their eyes gouged out, their ears cut off, their hands and feet amputated, and their nostrils stuffed with Michelle Obama’s armpit hairs.

The Bill Clinton special is being sold as a glowing portrait but no doubt the loathsome Chris Matthews will find little and big ways to slime the guest. Matthews will also skew events with his twisted version of history. We won’t watch and neither will you – or else. We won’t watch no matter how the show is sold:

“Hardball host Chris Matthews offers a Presidents’ Day gift to Bill Clinton with a new documentary.

“President of the World” is how Matthews titled his special on the ex-president, airing Monday at 10 p.m. Eastern on MSNBC.

The premise is that Clinton’s post-presidency has been unlike any other: Theodore Roosevelt’s “international stardom” combined with Herbert Hoover’s “public redemption” and Jimmy Carter’s “low-key humanitarian work.”

Today Bill Clinton produced new cause for great amounts of silly outrage when he and George H.W. Bush announced a new University of Arizona center The National Institute for Civil Discourse. We’ll stick with our version of Sharia law and issue fatwas.

Anyone who watches the Hellish MSNBC risks incurring the wrath of our fatwa. Because we are merciful (bleeding heart liberals that we are) we will consider pleas for forgiveness from those unable to resist the lure of Bill Clinton, the spectacle of Chris Matthews crawling to Bill for rating(s), those who wish to figure out why Bill Clinton would humiliate Matthews this way, or scholars/writers who for various reasons believe they need to watch the show so that others are kept informed but are not burdened with watching.

The above does not mean that absolution will be granted automatically. To qualify for exemption from our fatwa justice the potential viewer (this loopy hole is valid for tonight only and only for one hour) must recite the Big Pink catechism before and after the show begins:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

* * * * * *

It’s not difficult to understand why Chris O’Tingles would choose to ignore his love crush, Barack Obama, on this Presidents’ Day. Even O’Tingles understands that Obama is a boob. An unpopular boob with a 55% disapproval rating.

The boob in the White House is having a dramatic impact on those who foolishly allied themselves with him. Big Labor is about to suffer a Hellish defeat in Wisconsin that will cripple the Obama Dimocratic Party as Wisconsinitis spreads to other states.

The White House response to the coming catastrophe is to lie and run away by pretending they never played a role in the Wisconsin disaster. However earlier White House “tweets” prove again that Obama and his thugs are lying. Barack Obama is running away from his earlier position because he knows the gig is up and his poll numbers are down. Obama simply cannot be trusted – and Big Labor is about to learn that lesson, again.

As we wrote earlier, the battle of Wisconsin is not going to end well. The “optics” for labor indeed look very bad. We earlier made the point that the Thunderball in Wisconsin should be attributed to the labor movement and the Democratic Party having effectively merged. Labor leaders cared mostly about electing politicians and politicians mostly cared about wooing the Big Labor leaders. Now the foolishness of that union for both labor and what once was the Democratic Party (but is now the Obama Dimocratic Party), can be witnessed. A labor union official makes the point we elaborated on:

“Whatever happened to the vague sense 10 years ago of the need to develop a community unionism?” asked another official, who suggested labor leaders on the ground in Wisconsin shouldn’t have been surprised by the Walker attack, yet were clearly caught off guard. “They’ve been talking only to themselves for too long.”

In 2008 the Democratic Party ignored the rank and file voters and imposed their chosen boob on the party. The “leaders” talked to themselves for too long. They choose a boob over an experienced and ready on day one, ready to answer a 3:00 a.m. phone call, leader. In the same way Big Labor bosses have ignored their own rank and file and now they are about to get hit.

American organized labor is going to have to go back to the basics. At the beginning labor unions were very representative of the workers. But eventually as the unions grew, received substantial dues collected directly from the checks of the workers – the unions and the workers separated in their interests.

Big Labor became a bureaucracy interested in its own survival. Labor unions increasingly saw their bureaucratic interests as paramount. The workers lost when their representatives cared more about themselves and transformed into what amounted to a second boss. Power corrupted.

American organized labor is going to have to go back to the basics and focus on the workers, not politicians, as their primary concern if they want to get out of the Hell they are about to enter. All over the world leaders are learning to get back to the basics and listen to the people.

Libya’s Qaddafi is learning that lesson in his own very public Hell. Qaddafi’s reign is crumbling. Barack Obama should watch and learn before the gates of Hell close in on him. But Obama won’t learn. Obama will have to be pushed out, forced out.

Barack Obama should start packing his bags. He’s got a one way ticket on this Presidents’ Day. It’s not a ticket to paradise.

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252 thoughts on “Presidents’ Day In Hell

  1. JanH posted this previously:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i9UnJ6rkXibK3-R93xcc2QMuvkHA?docId=CNG.aa651167cd0af745b3cb395cf1d402e3.ad1

    Libya must stop ‘unacceptable bloodshed’ now: Clinton
    (AFP) – 19 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged Libya on Monday to immediately put an end to “unacceptable bloodshed” as she condemned Moamer Kadhafi’s protest crackdown.

    The world is watching the situation in Libya with alarm,” Clinton said in a written statement. “We join the international community in strongly condemning the violence in Libya.”

    “Now is the time to stop this unacceptable bloodshed,” she implored. “Our thoughts and prayers are with those whose lives have been lost, and with their loved ones.

    “The government of Libya has a responsibility to respect the universal rights of the people, including the right to free expression and assembly.”

  2. Wow, admin! What delicious prose! You are on fire today.

    And I think you are so right about labor and the dims having stopped listening to the people and for that, hopefully, they will be punished.

    From your lips to god’s ears; “Barack Obama should start packing his bags. He’s got a one way ticket on this Presidents’ Day. It’s not a ticket to paradise.”

  3. Report from Al Jazeera that Libyan military officers are telling soldiers to go to Tripoli and remove Gaddafi. This is from Twitter so don’t know if there are other sources..

  4. MSNBC fatwa. “The boycott/girlcott of MSNBC is still on. We are imposing Sharia law. Anyone who watches MSNBC will have their eyes gouged out, their ears cut off, their hands and feet amputated, and their nostrils stuffed with Michelle Obama’s armpit hairs.”

    Too funny.

  5. Repost from previous thread;

    Liveblogging Libya on Al-Jazeera.

    FYI.

    As protests in Libya enter their eighth day, following a “day of rage” on Thursday, we keep you updated on the developing situation from our headquarters in Doha, Qatar.

    (All times are local in Libya)

    Blog: Feb17 – Feb18 – Feb19 – Feb20

    AJE Live Stream – Twitter Audio: Voices from Libya – Benghazi Protest Radio (Arabic)

    Benghazi Webcam – Libyan Youth Movement – LibyaFeb17.com

    February 22

    12:34am: Images of bodies gutted in the attacks are too harrowing to be shown. Our colleagues on the TV side of the newsroom have had to pixellate the bloodied bodies, where limbs have been hacked off and torsos maimed.

    12:32am: Saif Gaddafi denies any airstrikes on Libyan cities

    12:30am: Further reports that Libyan border guards have abandoned the eastern border with Egypt

    12:22am: Deputy FM denies use of mercenaries against Libyan citizens

    12:20am: Still waiting for that speech from Gaddafi.

    12:17am: Once the Libyan foreign minister comes off air, we’ll bring you a translated transcript of the fascinating exchange as soon as possible. Watch this space. Or follow Al Jazeera correspondent Rawya Rageh on Twitter @RawyaRageh who is tweeting about it constantly…

    12:15am: Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, says: “Now is the time to stop this unacceptable bloodshed”

    12:11am: Al Jazeera Arabic presenter tries to corner Khaled al-Gaeim, deputy foreign minister, to allow the network into the country to report on events there.

    If you don’t trust our coverage, why are you on air with us now?

    Deputy FM:

    I called in to tell you about your dismal coverage, and to say that you do not own the airwaves

    12:09am: Libyan deputy foreign minister denies any massacres have occurred in Benghazi or anywhere else in the country. He then blames Al Jazeera for “inciting strife”.

    What do you gain from your coverage? More employees?

    12:06am: Calls for solidarity protests around the world spread globally across online social networks.

    12:03am: Al Jazeera’s Anita McNaught, reporting from Istanbul, says a plane sent earlier today to pick up some of the 25,000 Turkish workers in Libya had to turn back after approaching the country – because there was no-one left in air control facilities

    12:01am: Online reports say Darnah city now under attack from “mercenaries”.

    AmericanGal, I responded to you on the previous thread. Keep fighting the good fight.

  6. Republican/conservative Chris Stirewalt repeats what we wrote about previously and the consequences for labor but primarily for Obama and the Dimocratic Party in 2012:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/18/dems-dependence-government-workers-poses-peril/

    “Some have been puzzled by the decision from Obama and the leaders of his campaign operation to become so deeply involved in the labor protests now gripping Wisconsin, Ohio and other cash-strapped states. It is unusual for a president to put his credibility on the line for a state budget battle, especially one so bitter and controversial. [snip]

    But remember that Obama must win in states like Wisconsin and Ohio if he expects to have another term. And without well-funded government worker unions to provide ground troops and campaign cash for Democrats, victory in those swing states looks unlikely.

    What Walker and his fellow fiscal hawks are doing is not just talking about trimming back very lavish benefits for government workers (Who wouldn’t like to have a $57-to-$1 match from their employers for retirement benefits and no-cost health insurance?). The GOP plan poses an existential threat to government unions and, by extension, the viability of the Democratic Party.

    Team Walker is trying to strip government workers of the power to push for better pay, better benefits and more lenient work rules. Instead, pay hikes for state workers beyond the usual cost of living bumps would have to go before voters. More dangerous for big labor and the Democrats it supports is the plan to have the state stop collecting dues for unions.

    The way it works now is that state workers’ dues are taken out on payday by the government, which then passes the dough on to union leaders. And since working in many state agencies or schools means you must join the union, there’s no choice but to pay up. The Walker plan would make government union dues voluntary, which would no doubt put a serious dent in the campaign coffers of state Democrats.

    Walker is talking about defunding the Democratic Party in a key swing state and that’s cause for serious alarm for Obama.[snip]

    When party coalitions get out of whack, there is always a political price to pay. Republicans, for example, have suffered in the past at different times for overreliance on big business and social conservatives.

    And with many years of fighting between government workers and taxpayers, Democrats will find themselves on the losing side again and again.”

  7. Great post as usual. So sad about Unions. They were once great…

    now a repost

    gonzotx
    February 21st, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    You know all this talk about SE kids and do any of you have one? I do, and it wasn’t easy to get him the help he needed. I had him tested, schooled and tutored on my own dime at a cost of over 100,000 dollars. Yes, I repeat a $100,000. The school district fought me at every turn. They poured more money into NOT educating my son then it would have taken to educate him. I sympathize with the SE kid. It is not an easy life. He had reading deficits of comprehension of a second grader in 10th grade. I could list all his deficits but won’t. He has many gifts as well and that is what I promoted, but I will be damned if I was just going to let him “pass” and not receive an education. This is a kid that I read to everyday and as he got old enough had him read to me everyday. I taught him how to multiple because the “new” math didn’t seem to think it was important, they use calculators you know ( At least that is what I have been told). Yes, I had a lawyer and yes I sued the ISD twice and won twice. And before the teachers in the audience speak up and think I am anti-teacher, my daughter is one, and quite good AND dare I say certified in SE. There are two sides to this story. When I was in school we didn’t have a lot of SE because they just dropped out. I now know why. In the end, I think the effects of the disintegration of the family has played out in the school room. Society is expecting the schools and teachers to make up for the failure of the family for our society as a whole to survive and it just can’t meet that expectation. It is impossible. I don’t have an answer.

  8. Basil, thanks for your comments on the earlier thread.

    Gonzotx–that school district was clearly wrong–your child had a reading disability. There is no excuse…

    Now, on to the Libya situation–thanks to all who are posting info here…..

  9. Interesting perspective, gonzo. You are right; there are always many sides to any issue.

    moononpluto, I just heard Anitat McNaught on Al-Jazeera livestream say that the Turkish government was very concerned about the safety of the 25,000 Turks in Libiya and was warning their people not to say much about the situation as they are afraid it would endanger them.

    McNaught also said something about the airplanes being turned back becasue of no landing and something about boats being sent. According to mcNaught, there were a few modest protests in Turkey today including one at the Libyan Counsel in Istanbul. The protesters were asking why the world was not helping Libya.

    What else can you tell us?

  10. I saw someone on another blog say that the reason the Turkish planes were turned back is because there is no air traffic control anymore – the ATC personnel have fled. Not safe to land.

  11. Hillary the were told not to land, refused permission, the libyans wont let the people go. This much i know.

  12. Re: the article admin just posted, there was short-term gain for the unions in becoming tied foot and hand to the Democratic Party. But the long-term downside is that the public ceased viewing them as the voice of the workers, and began to view them as the voice of corrupt politicos, and solely Democratic politicos. They did not stick to only labor issues – they put their muscle behind any and every policy the Dems wanted done, and any and every candidate they wanted elected. They became footsoldiers for things not really related to labor at all.

    They are paying the price for that now. Why should over half the country that is not particularly leftist want to support organizations that do not speak for them? Who suspect that their agenda is less “Power to the workers” and more “power to the Democratic Party”? The unions dug this hole for themselves.

  13. This is really going to get ugly, maybe violent…
    *************

    New York’s Teamsters Local 237 to bus in support to union protestors in Wisconsin

    BY CORKY SIEMASZKO
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    Originally Published:Tuesday, February 22nd 2011, 4:00 AM
    Updated: Monday, February 21st 2011, 5:40 PM

    Thayer/Getty
    Protesters rally inside the Wisconsin State Capitol.
    TAKE OUR POLL
    A Union Fight
    Do you support the Wisconsin workers protesting against Gov. Scott Walker?

    Yes.
    No.
    I’m not sure.

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    The Wisconsin workers who have staged a week-long protest against their union-busting governor are getting some Big Apple reinforcements.

    Teamsters Local 237, which represents various city workers, intends to “bus a couple hundred” members to Madison – possibly this week, Deputy Director Pete Gutierrez told The Daily News.

    “This governor has awakened a sleeping giant,” Gutierrez said of Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican. “We’re going to bring down as many people as possible. It’s an important issue and legitimate cause.”

    The standoff in Madison erupted last week after Walker tried to get a bill passed by the GOP-dominated state Senate that would force government workers to chip in for their pensions and health insurance – and deny them the right to bargain for better wages.

    Wisconsin is the state where collective bargaining was pioneered. And while workers said they were willing to bend on the pensions and insurance, they refused to give up their bargaining rights.

    Meanwhile, all 14 Democratic state senators got out of town – paralyzing state government and denying the Republicans the quorum needed to vote on the bill.

    In a sign that some of the Republicans might be wavering, GOP Sen. Dale Schultz suggested a compromise that would temporarily take away bargaining rights to get through the state’s next two-year budget and then restore them.

    Walker rejected that idea.

    “It will never get to me because other than that one state senator, all the rest of the Republicans are firmly behind our proposal,” Walker told MSNBC, dismissing Schultz’s idea as a “short term fix.”

    Outside the state capitol, tens of thousands of Wisconsin public workers braved freezing winds and temperatures barely in the 20s march again, waving signs that read “Stop the attack on Wisconsin families” and “Solidarity.”

    Public sector unions say Scott created a deficit last month by pushing through two massive business tax breaks. They say he’s now trying to balance the books on their backs – and has not gone after the the police and firefighter unions that backed him in the election.

    While Madison is the focus of long-simmering union anger, similar proposals to strip public employees of collective bargaining rights also have been proposed in cash-strapped Ohio.

    In Tennessee and Indiana, the GOP has also pushed bills to limit bargaining rights for teachers

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/21/2011-02-21_new_yorks_teamsters_local_237_to_bus_in_support_to_union_protestors_in_wisconsin.html#ixzz1EdrHm5bC

  14. I just saw footage of the two Libyan pilots who defected to Malta. On Fox. The report is that more pilots are following their lead. Analysts are saying there is no comparison between the Libyan situation and that in Egypt. Mohabarack’s worse action was sending some thugs on camels and horses into the crowds of protesters. Khaddafi is murdering Libya’s citizens.

    There is a dismay that BO has not ssaid anything. We at Hillaryis44 are not surprised.

    Reports that Khaddafi just appeared on TV for 4 seconds and said he was in Tripoli and not in Venezuala.

    Very weird.

  15. We are in a Holy War…WAKE UP AMERICA…
    *****
    World
    Feb 20 2011 10:17PM

    US must be removed from Islamic world: Khamenei

    A handout picture released by the official website of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

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    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Sunday called on Muslims to “remove” the US from the Islamic world.

    “The main problem in the Muslim world is the presence of the United States. It is the biggest problem. We need to address that,” he told a gathering of Shiite and Sunni scholars in Tehran for an international conference on Islam.

    “It is necessary to remove the US from the Islamic world,” the all-powerful cleric and Islamic republic’s commander-in-chief said, adding that the country’s arch-foe was currently weak.

    Khamenei urged Muslims worldwide to preserve the “people’s movement in Egypt,” saying it was the duty of both the people and dignitaries of Arab nations and the entire Islamic community.

    He reiterated that the Arab revolts were “Islamic” and must be consolidated.

    “The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated,” he said.

    Khamenei also urged that “the conspiracy of enemies to create differences between Sunnis and Shiites” be confronted.

    On February 4, in his Friday prayer sermon, Khamenei called for an Islamic regime to be installed in Egypt, a week before that country’s strongman Hosni Mubarak was ousted.

    Iranian officials expressed support for the uprising in the Arab world’s most populous nation. -Sapa-AFP

  16. HillaryForTexas, the disconnect is not just limited to unions or the political parties (wasn’t the Tea Party a reaction to a lot of this?). How about the more dangerous military vs public disconnect?:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49838.html

    Spouses of service members are badly stressed from years of long deployments — so stressed that some have taken their own lives. Children who’ve had a parent away at war for almost their entire conscious lives are leaving home to go off to college. And the troops themselves continue to struggle with substance abuse, post-traumatic stress, and devastating physical and mental wounds.

    Some of Washington’s top national security leaders are worried that Americans don’t know — or worse, don’t care.

    Top Defense Department officials and other leaders began talking quietly last year about a “gap” or “split” between the military and the general population. But in recent weeks, they’ve been expressing those concerns more often and more boldly.

    Former House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (D-Mo.), who lost his seat in Congress in November, warned early this month that “those who protect us are psychologically divorced from those who are being protected.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told House lawmakers on Wednesday that there’s a “growing disconnect between the American people and the military.” The public knows generically that their troops are at war, but “the day to day connections are less than they used to be, the depth and breadth of who we are and what we’re doing, isn’t there.”[snip]

    How could the U.S. military fight for almost a decade and yet drift away from — not closer toward — the public consciousness? And just how divorced from the realities of today’s military is the general public?

    A smaller military, one that depends less on junior newcomers than on highly trained, professional volunteers, means fewer Americans have a diminishing number of relatives or friends who serve, Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said.

  17. Agreed, gonzo. And have you heard of the new Danny Glover film – Mooz-lum (sp?) about the terrible discrimination American Muslim youth face in this country? WTF????????

    I am so sick and tired of moving over for yet another religious/political/racial/minority group.

    As Sarkozy and the UK now say, multiculturalism is a death blow and does not work. Assimilation first should be the focus, not retaining differences brought over from other countries. By all means, keep your traditions and customs but the priority should be fitting into the American traditions, not vice-versa.

  18. admin, I read about that. I cover a lot of military types and it is embarrassing how grateful area top brass are for any positive, or at least neutral coverage.

    A local VFW women’s group recently got a letter from “a grateful soldier” and the 10 men under his command in Afghanistan. He and his group were just so thankful that anyone would think to send them holiday baskets,letters from kids, positive reinforcement. It is heartbreaking.

    A case in point is the Iraqi vet who was shot 11 times and is now a sttudent at Columbia being booed, heckled and called a racist at a recent meeting.

    What a disgrace.

  19. Admin: Bravo! Bravo! He has got a one way ticket out…oooh! I can’t wait!

    Great analogy! I’m not watching so I won’t have to seek forgiveness…LOL!

    I love that “Mudball”, it fits! Jabba the Hut Mathews…that fits too! ROTFLMAO!

  20. DON’T FORGET FOLKS-

    PRESIDENT CLINTON IS ON TONIGHT @ 10PM EST.

    MATTHEWS interviewing him as “The President of the World”!

    ya gotta know, MO, BO and Jarret will be imbibing heavily tonight-

  21. Back to the Wisconsin union brouhaha for a second.

    What I have seen in Albany County indicates NYS schools are in for some deep deep sh!t, as bad as if not worse than Wisconson.

    Anecdotally, Cuomo’s call for a 2 percent property tax cap, the loss of fedral stimulus funds and other funding and normal inflation has put the district I cover in the red for more than $3.5 million. That amount would barely cover the next year’s budget when accounting for 15% health benfits increases, 7 % employee retirement costs, etc. $3.5 million is about 70 % higher than last year’s shortfall which resulted in 45 staff losing their jobs. It’s going to be a bloodbath at schools across the state. There is no money. Property owners are tired of being squeezed and if the legislature passes the property tax cap there’s no way for districts to raise money needed to plug the hole.

    That means huge cuts in school programs. It’s just a nasty reality. NYS is over-extended, tapped out and cuts are inevitable across the board.

  22. That’s disturbing, admin. Yes, the co-opting of Big Labor is in some ways similar to how the feminist organizations became less about women and more about propping up Democratic politics in general, even at a cost to women.

    And yeah, the Teaparties were largely a rebellion against how the R party and conservative groups were co-opted by party politics and corporate special interests. Both sides of the aisle, both legacy parties, try to de-fang their populists. And do they their utmost to either a) co-opt them or b) above all prevent the populists on both sides from ever joining forces on anything.

    This is why I still talk to and have sympathy for the teaparty folks I know. I don;t agree on everything, but the ones I know are populists at heart, and we do agree on there being too much concentrated power in Washington and on Wall Street pulling the strings in ways that have NOTHING to do with the People, or with representative govt.

  23. Why isn’t obama making a speech about Libya? As much as I hate his otherwise useless speeches, why isn’t he saying that America is standing by the Libyan people?

    He did it with Egypt. He did it with Bahrain.

  24. In other words, we often disagree on how much we want govt to do, but we absolutely agree that the control needs to be back in the hands of the voters, not the various political heavyweights – whether parties, unions, corporate lobbyists, think tanks, talking heads, or other para-political organizations.

  25. Pardon me while I puke…with all these school districts going down…if we’d raised taxes to the Bill Clinton level as Hillary suggested we’d be closer to and able to give more to the state’s….if you can read this…THANK a teacher….if your school closes Thank a republican! We bailed out the banks and they kept the money and DID NOT make loans so therefore there are NO jobs….yet everyday Boner was screaming “WHERE’S THE JOBS”, well BONER WTF are they???

    The rich folks are going to get richer and send their kids to private school and our kids will travel great distances as school district’s merge to save money…ain’t this the Rethug’s freaking wet dream or WHAT?

  26. Janh,
    This is what I’ve been asking all day….where’s odumboat??? His ship is sinking quickly…it’s time for him to start bailing out the water!!!

  27. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe obama will come out and speak about Libya just as they air the Clinton documentary.

    It’s all in the timing.

  28. Good lord, Quaddafi appeared on Libyan TV sitting in a car wearing some kind of weird hat with EARMUFFS and holding a HUGE UMBRELLA over his head though there is no rain.

    CNN has the video – it’s very Michael Jackson-esque. He’s a complete loony tune – he’s lost it. I can’t embed here, so here’s the link from HotAir:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/21/video-qaddafi-appears-on-libyan-tv-carrying-giant-umbrella-wearing-hat-with-earflaps/#comments

  29. JanH,
    Your prolly right….he’ll interupt Bill’s show, he does it everytime Hillary is on…

    You know in the back of my mind…when I see Khadaffi and all his craziness…it makes me think of Obama…I wonder why that is??? LOL!

  30. JanH
    February 21st, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    I’m sure the ME fiasco hasn’t gone the way they planned it. In Egypt, El Baradei should be in power, the MB’s should have a seat at the table and they should be injecting creeping Sharia Law into their new government. Sorry- wrong number!

    The UN Resolution should have passed last Friday. Palestinians making ready for a takeover of Israel. Gadaffi, volunteering soldiers backing up off loaded soldiers from Iranian warships. Jordan on full alert, Turkey as well.

    All this to be celebrated with a toasted tinkling of glasses in the
    Obama WH- Sorry, if your plans have been spoiled. Suggest a Ski Trip to Vail getting the wife out of town w/kids… toodles!

    Tis’ a very good Presidents Day except for the tumult in Libya which will be dealt with very soon… (I can feel it moon) (Tell your friend to sit tight if you make contact…) (I don’t want to say it but I will… help is on the way..)

  31. confloyd, he always stages press conferences or speeches when Hillary is going to be on. He’s done it several times.

    He’s such a petty, small little man.

  32. We all know how Hillary feels about Khadaffi…she walked out on him when he addressed the UN….she doesn’t like him!

  33. Maybe obama will come out and speak about Libya just as they air the Clinton documentary.
    It’s all in the timing.

    =============

    Heh. Very likely. Maybe Gadafi will upstage them both. But once they’ve spoken, they’ll be old news. At least the Clinton documentary can be shown again later, because it’s prepared as a tape feature and won’t lose it’s flavor on the bedpost overnight.

  34. Mrs. Smith,
    I think your right…that’s why we got a statement from Hillary…
    Keep me posted on Jabba the Hut! OK?

  35. “when I see Khadaffi and all his craziness…it makes me think of Obama…”
    __________________________

    If Obama can be related to King George, he’s probably related to Gadaffi too! 😆

  36. #
    confloyd
    February 21st, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Mrs. Smith,
    I think your right…that’s why we got a statement from Hillary…
    Keep me posted on Jabba the Hut! OK?
    __________________

    I’m recording Bill’s interview. I know Hillary- If the Libyan civilians are imperiled because of Gadaffi dethronement, she will be moving heaven and earth working to quell the violence until innocent people can safely be taken the heck out of there.

  37. Back to WI. Iirc, 48% support Walker’s bill, 38% oppose it, 14% undecided — and someone said only 20% of WI residents were in a union, so the unions have got some outside sympathy.

    In a POTUS election, 10% margin would be very good, compared to how POTUS elections usually go. However, when it’s a law that people are going to have to live with, 38% strongly, emotionally opposed is not good. And adding insult to injury by ramming it through is worse (and raises suspicion).

    Imo Walker should take a more normal pace and try to educate the opponents.

  38. On the last thread, there was a piece posted that said Walker’s hurry on this bill was something about meeting a deadline to get some bonds out at better interest. If so, perhaps he should separate that bond part to get it approved in time, tabling the rest of the bill till there has been more discussion and consensus.

  39. Hillary Clinton Urges Libyan Leader Muammar al-Gaddafi to ‘Stop Bloodshed’
    “We join the international community in strongly condemning the violence in Libya,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement released to reporters. “Our thoughts and prayers are with those whose lives have been lost, and with their loved ones.”

    Mrs. Clinton says the world is watching the events unfold with “alarm” as the government takes action to suppress protesters with violence.

    “Now is the time to stop this unacceptable bloodshed,” she said. “We are working urgently with friends and partners around the world to convey this message to the Libyan government.”

    Mrs. Clinton’s comments come as protests in Libya continue in the capital of Tripoli after a dozen people were killed in neighboring Benghazi.

    The heir-apparent son to Mr. al-Gaddafi, Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi, warned that the protests could lead to civil war.

    “Libya is made up of tribes and clans and loyalties,” he said. “There will be civil war.”
    _________________

    Cartoon of a RL cartoonish character, Gaddafi!

    http://politicallyillustrated.com/images/uploads/ph-clinton-libya.jpg

  40. Okay, the WI union is in trouble for sure, and internal polling on the issue sucks ass. How do I know? Because Friday Obama came out of the gate supporting them, calling Walker’s bill an “assault” on unions. But now? Well, now his administration says this to the NYT:

    Administration officials said Sunday that the White House had done nothing to encourage the demonstrations in Wisconsin.

    Hmmm. If there is one thing I know about Obama it’s that he will ride any winning horse and bail on a losing one faster than you can blink. If the WH is backtracking on their statements, then you can bet yer sweet butt that internal polls are telling him to back off

  41. “If so, perhaps he should separate that bond part to get it approved in time, tabling the rest of the bill till there has been more discussion and consensus.”
    _______________

    can’t, because the state Dems are hiding out… not enough legislators left for a quorum..

  42. They can pass anything not fiscal with no quorum, but all budget stuff (and bonds would be that) need a quorum.

  43. Mrs.Smith,
    If Obama can be related to King George, he’s probably related to Gadaffi too!
    ———————————

    Great minds think alike…LOL! Exactly!

  44. I question the sanity of bringing the New York City Municipal Union (Local 237) into the midwest on this issue. It is not their turf and their presence will be deeply resented by voters. Local 237 is part of Joint Council 16 which is part of the Eastern Conference. Wisconsin is in the Central Conference, and there are a whole different set of players. And I am not sure how many municipal workers are Teamsters. I suspect that most of them are AFSME. And the Teamsters are not part of the AFL-CIO whereas the Municipal workers are . This has got to be a favor by Hoffa to Obama. If the Republicans do their homework on that local they can vilify them with no difficulty. I have never had a problem with them myself. In fact I liked their leaders. But they do have a checkered history. For these reasons I believe is a mistake and a sure sign of desperation.

  45. Anothr thing about the NYS school budget situation. Property owners already pay the highest rates in the country. They can not, will not tolerate another 10 percent increase. It would be suicidal. It’s not uncommon for people in modest %150-$200G homnes to owe close to $10 g just in property taxes. It is unsustainable.

    I am lucky because I have a tiny old former summer cottage as my abode and my taxes are affordable. Not so for those who live in normal housing. And what I owe in combined federal and state taxes rises over $10G a year. I don’t even have children in the school systema and never have.

    This getting blood from a stone approach has grown fast real quick. Old timers in the area remeber being taught (thoroughly) in a one room schoolhoues doublng up sessios at the high school level, working in classes of 40 – 5- kids. And yet they still mostly passed the regents exms.

    They are tired of coddling, supporting, financing a generation of students who expect to sit passively back and learn no real-life skills. There is a grand stand-off approaching, common sense vs. waste.

  46. February 21, 2011
    Michelle Obama’s big ‘sacrifices’ on her Vail vacation
    Jeannie DeAngelis

    It has been almost a month and a half since the Obama family returned from 10 days in Oahu. With all the breastfeeding advice she’s been giving out lately, an exhausted First Lady is long overdue for some R & R.

    Relinquishing her role as tireless workaholic, Michelle decided to revisit last year’s mother/daughter ski trip to the Ski Liberty Resort in Carroll Valley, Pennsylvania. Only this year, the Obama women have taken to the slopes in Vail, Colorado on a “private family trip” accompanied by “several close friends.”

    When unveiling his budget, Michelle’s husband reminded Americans, “Everybody’s going to have to give a little bit.” The President even suggested: “If you’re a family trying to cut back, you might skip going out to dinner, you might put off a vacation.”

    According to Obama, “Just like every family in America, the federal government has to … live within its means.” Which is exactly what Mrs. Obama is doing, spending time with her daughters at a resort that is much more modest than she’s used to.

    Actually, the whole excursion to Vail Mountain is one of self-sacrifice. According to administration officials, the First Lady and friends are merely “chaperoning…children on a ski trip,” otherwise Michelle would likely be home hunkered down, tirelessly working in the “Let’s Move” office of the White House.

    On a tight budget, the ski trip is but a few steps above a school-sponsored field trip. The chaperones are staying at the Sebastian Hotel, where lodging starts at “$605 per night … and head north of $2,000 for multi-bedroom suites.” Those rates are certainly more modest than the $6,600 a night Mrs. Obama was rumored to have spent at the Hotel Villa Padierna in Costa del Sol.

    The Sebastian touts “spas, a Frost Bar, a Market for nibbles, a mountain-view pool, hot tubs and a fire pit.” A bevy of ski valets assist patrons “into warm boots and out onto the mountain,” which is just the kind of pared-down amenity that penny-pinchers across America can easily relate to.

    Michelle arrived with “A motorcade of about a dozen vehicles, including 15 state and local law enforcement officers, traveled from the Eagle County Regional Airport to Vail…Roads were temporarily blocked to make way for the motorcade.”

    Despite the extravagant entourage, when it comes to frugality Mrs. Obama is a pro. A flight from DC to Colorado is 1,700 miles and takes approximately 3 hours. Although the First Lady usually employs a large Air Force jet to ferry her from vacation spot to vacation spot, this time she answered the call to live within the Obama family means in the following way: To save money, instead of Air Force One, which costs about $100,000 per hour to fly, Michelle chose a less expensive jet.

    Not including the weight of ski equipment, a fair guesstimation would be that the Michelle Vail Vacation one-way flight cost much less than what would otherwise have set the American taxpayer back $300,000.

    Moreover, Michelle’s savvy decision to travel as often as possible without Barack also eliminates about 180 pounds of excess baggage weight, and in the long run helps in tamping down overall costs.

    As an added budgetary bonus, the President joined Michelle in setting an example of prudence. Barry saved coaching fees for Sasha’s basketball team when another coach failed to show up. Although Sasha was on the bunny slope with Mom in Vail, our thrifty President paused stirring up union trouble in Wisconsin long enough to serve America as a “parent coach” for a team of nine year-old girls, and selflessly did it for free.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/02/michele_obama_big_sacrifces_on.html

  47. Mrs. Smith
    February 21st, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    Hillary Clinton Urges Libyan Leader Muammar al-Gaddafi to ‘Stop Bloodshed’

    Why didn’t O come out and say something like this? About one third of O’s 2008 campaign funds – about $250 M – came from unaccounted, mostly foreign, sources. There is speculation that much of it came from Libya, Saudi and other sources. No wonder he is keeping quiet tonight, unlike the time when Mubarak was going down. Hillary’s statement today, while it is correct US policy, was trying to smoke Obama out and make him face his predicament. If O says anything negative about Gaddafi, I don’t think he would silently go down without ratting O out.

  48. Just watched Mathews promoting show on Maddow and as administrator pointed out, he did mamage to take a shot at Bill and Hillary, while calling Obama a man whose heart is with the people.

  49. confloyd
    February 21st, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    😎
    ______________________

    He’s Back- so he says?

    Latest update… Good, Jordan lending refuge to escaped civilians..
    ______________

    Gadhafi goes on Libyan TV amid wave of protests

    By SARAH EL DEEB and MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press Sarah El Deeb And Maggie Michael, Associated Press – 34 mins ago

    CAIRO – Deep rifts opened in Moammar Gadhafi’s regime, with Libyan government officials at home and abroad resigning, air force pilots defecting and a bloody crackdown on protest in the capital of Tripoli, where cars and buildings were burned. Gadhafi went on state TV early Tuesday to attempt to show he was still in charge.

    World leaders expressed outrage Monday at the “vicious forms of repression” used against the demonstrators.

    The longest serving Arab leader appeared briefly on TV to dispel rumors that he had fled. Sitting in a car in front of what appeared to be his residence and holding an umbrella out of the passenger side door, he told an interviewer that he had wanted to go to the capital’s Green Square to talk to his supporters, but the rain stopped him.

    “I am here to show that I am in Tripoli and not in Venezuela. Don’t believe those misleading dog stations,” Gadhafi said, referring to the media reports that he had left the country. The video clip and comments lasted less than a minute — unusual for the mercurial leader, who is known for rambling speeches that often last hours.

    Pro-Gadhafi militia drove through Tripoli with loudspeakers and told people not to leave their homes, witnesses said, as security forces sought to keep the unrest that swept eastern parts of the country — leaving the second-largest city of Benghazi in protesters’ control — from overwhelming the capital of 2 million people.

    State TV said the military had “stormed the hideouts of saboteurs” and urged the public to back security forces. Protesters called for a demonstration in Tripoli’s central Green Square and in front of Gadhafi’s residence, but witnesses in various neighborhoods described a scene of intimidation: helicopters hovering above the main seaside boulevard and pro-Gadhafi gunmen firing from moving cars and even shooting at the facades of homes to terrify the population.

    Youths trying to gather in the streets scattered and ran for cover amid gunfire, according to several witnesses, who like many reached in Tripoli by The Associated Press spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said people wept over bodies of the dead left in the street.

    Warplanes swooped low over Tripoli in the evening and snipers took up position on roofs, apparently to stop people outside the capital from joining protests, according to Mohammed Abdul-Malek, a London-based opposition activist in touch with residents.

    Gadhafi appeared to have lost the support of at least one major tribe, several military units and his own diplomats, including Libya’s ambassador in Washington, Ali Adjali. Deputy U.N. Ambassador Ibrahim Dabbashi accused the longest-serving Arab leader of committing genocide against his own people in the current crisis.

    The eruption of turmoil in the capital after seven days of protests and bloody clashes in Libya’s eastern cities sharply escalated the challenge to Gadhafi. His security forces have unleashed the bloodiest crackdown of any Arab country against the wave of protests sweeping the region, which toppled leaders of Egypt and Tunisia. At least 233 people have been killed so far, according to New York-based Human Rights Watch. The difficulty in getting information from Libya made obtaining a precise death toll impossible.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called on Gadhafi to “stop this unacceptable bloodshed” and said the world was watching the events “with alarm.”

    British Prime Minister David Cameron, visiting neighboring Egypt, called the crackdown “appalling.”

    “The regime is using the most vicious forms of repression against people who want to see that country — which is one of the most closed and one of the most autocratic — make progress,” he said.

    Communications to Tripoli appeared to have been cut, and residents could not be reached by phone from outside the country. State TV showed video of hundreds of Gadhafi supporters rallying in Green Square, waving palm fronds and pictures of him.

    State TV quoted Gadhafi’s son, Seif al-Islam, as saying the military conducted airstrikes on remote areas, away from residential neighborhoods, on munitions warehouses, denying reports that warplanes attacked Tripoli and Benghazi.

    Jordanians who fled Libya gave horrific accounts of a “bloodbath” in Tripoli, saying they saw people shot, scores of burned cars and shops, and what appeared to be armed mercenaries who looked as if they were from other African countries.

    Many billboards and posters of Gadhafi were smashed or burned along a road to downtown Tripoli, “emboldening” protesters, said a man who lives on the western outskirts of the capital.

    The first major protests to hit an OPEC country — and major supplier to Europe — sent oil prices jumping, and the industry has begun eyeing reserves touched only after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the first Gulf War in 1991.

    Tripoli was largely shut down Monday, with schools, government offices and most stores closed, except for a few bakeries, said residents, who hunkered down in their homes. Armed members of pro-government organizations called “Revolutionary Committees” hunted for protesters in Tripoli’s old city, said one protester named Fathi.

    Members of the militia occupied the city center and no one was able to walk in the street, said one resident who lived near Green Square and described a “very, very violent” situation.

    “We know that the regime is reaching its end and Libyans are not retreating,” the resident said. “People have a strange determination after all that happened.”

    The heaviest fighting so far has been in the east. Security forces in Benghazi opened fire Sunday on protesters storming police stations and government buildings. But in several instances, units of the military sided with protesters.

    By Monday, protesters had claimed control of the city, overrunning its main security headquarters, called the Katiba.

    Celebrating protesters raised the flag of Libya’s old monarchy, toppled in 1969 in a Gadhafi-led military coup, over Benghazi’s main courthouse and on tanks around the city.

    “Gadhafi needs one more push and he is gone,” said lawyer Amal Roqaqie.

    Gadhafi’s son went on state TV early Monday with a sometimes confused speech of nearly 40 minutes, vowing to fight and warning that if protests continue, a civil war will erupt in which Libya’s oil wealth “will be burned.”

    “Moammar Gadhafi, our leader, is leading the battle in Tripoli, and we are with him,” he said. “The armed forces are with him. Tens of thousands are heading here to be with him. We will fight until the last man, the last woman, the last bullet,” Seif al-Islam Gadhafi said.

    He also promised “historic” reforms if protests stop. State TV said Monday he had formed a commission to investigate deaths during the unrest. Protesters ignored the vague gestures. Even as he spoke, the first clashes between demonstrators and security forces in the heart of Tripoli were still raging, lasting until dawn.

    Fire raged Monday at the People’s Hall, the main building for government gatherings where the country’s equivalent of a parliament holds sessions several times a year, the pro-government news website Qureyna said.

    It also reported the first major sign of discontent in Gadhafi’s government, saying Justice Minister Mustafa Abdel-Jalil resigned to protest the “excessive use of force” against unarmed demonstrators.

    There were reports of ambassadors abroad defecting. Libya’s former ambassador to the Arab League in Cairo, Abdel-Moneim al-Houni, who resigned his post Sunday to side with protesters, demanded Gadhafi and his commanders and aides be put on trial for “the mass killings in Libya.”

    “Gadhafi’s regime is now in the trash of history because he betrayed his nation and his people,” al-Houni said in a statement.

    A Libyan diplomat in China, Hussein el-Sadek el-Mesrati, told Al-Jazeera, “I resigned from representing the government of Mussolini and Hitler.”

    Two Mirage warplanes from the Libyan air force fled a Tripoli air base and landed on the nearby island of Malta, and their pilots — two colonels — asked for political asylum, Maltese military officials said.

    A protest march Sunday night sparked scenes of mayhem in the heavily secured capital. Protesters had streamed into Green Square, all but taking over the plaza and surrounding streets in the area between Tripoli’s Ottoman-era old city and its Italian-style downtown.

    That was when the backlash began, with snipers firing from rooftops and militiamen attacking the crowds, shooting and chasing people down side streets, according to witnesses and protesters.

    Gadhafi supporters in pickup trucks and cars raced through the square, shooting automatic weapons. “They were driving like madmen searching for someone to kill. … It was total chaos, shooting and shouting,” said a 28-year-old protester.

    The witnesses reported seeing casualties, but the number could not be confirmed. The witness named Fathi said he saw at least two he believed were dead and many more wounded. After midnight, protesters took over the main Tripoli offices of state-run satellite stations Al-Jamahiriya-1 and Al-Shebabiya, a witness said.

    “Gunfire was echoing across the capital all night last night,” said Adel Suleiman, a Jordanian adviser to the Libyan Central Bank governor.

    “I saw scores of burned cars and shops in the capital,” said Suleiman, who was among about 260 Jordanians evacuated from Tripoli.

    Mahmoud Shawkat, a 28-year-old computer engineer, said his Libyan neighbor was shot in the head during a protest in Green Square. “I’m not sure if he died,” Shawkat said. “I had to flee to the airport.”

    A Jordanian engineer who identified himself as Abu Saleh, 30, said armed militias were in Green Square on Monday morning, and many of them appeared to be foreigners from other parts of Africa “who were shooting randomly at people and in the air. Some of them were carrying swords.”

    He said he also saw bloodstains on the road on my way to the airport and “pictures of Gadhafi were also torched.”

    Fragmentation is a real danger in Libya, a country of deep tribal divisions and a historic rivalry between Tripoli and Benghazi. The system of rule created by Gadhafi — the “Jamahiriya,” or “rule by masses” — is highly decentralized, run by “popular committees” in a complicated hierarchy that effectively means there is no real center of decision-making except Gadhafi, his sons and their top aides.

    An expert on Libya said she believed the regime was collapsing.

    “Unlike the fall of the regime in Tunisia and Egypt, this is going to be a collapse into a civil war,” said Lisa Anderson, president of the American University in Cairo, and a Libya expert.

    Seif has often been put forward as the regime’s face of reform and is often cited as a likely successor. His younger brother, Mutassim, is the national security adviser, with a strong role in the military and security forces. Another brother, Khamis, heads the army’s 32nd Brigade, which according to U.S. diplomats is the best-trained and best-equipped force in the military.

    In Benghazi, cars honked their horns in celebration and protesters in the streets chanted “Long live Libya” on Monday, a day after bloody clashes that killed at least 60 people.

    Benghazi’s airport was closed, according to an airport official in Cairo. A Turkish Airlines flight trying to land in Benghazi to evacuate Turkish citizens was turned away Monday, told by ground control to circle over the airport, then to return to Istanbul.

    There were fears of chaos as young men — including regime supporters — seized weapons from the Katiba and other captured security buildings. “The youths now have arms and that’s worrying,” said Iman, a doctor at the main hospital. “We are appealing to the wise men of every neighborhood to rein in the youths.”

    Youth volunteers directed traffic and guarded homes and public facilities, said Najla, a lawyer and university lecturer in Benghazi. She and other residents said police had disappeared from the streets.

    After seizing the Katiba, protesters found the bodies of 13 uniformed security officers inside who had been handcuffed and shot in the head, then set on fire, said a doctor named Hassan, who asked not to be identified further for fear of reprisals. He said protesters believed the 13 had been executed by fellow security forces for refusing to attack protesters.

    Tunisia’s official news agency said at least 2,300 Tunisians fled neighboring Libya on Sunday and Monday out of concerns over the unrest, crossing at the border post of Ras Jedir. Other reports suggest the figure was much higher.

  50. Lansing— Swift and severe changes are coming to Detroit Public Schools.

    State education officials have ordered Robert Bobb to immediately implement a financial restructuring plan that balances the district’s books by closing half of its schools, swelling high school class sizes to 60 students and consolidating operations.

    This week, Bobb, the district’s emergency financial manager, said he is meeting with Detroit city officials and will set up a meeting with Wayne County Regional Educational Service Agency to discuss consolidation opportunities in areas such as finance, public safety, transportation and other areas.

    Bobb also is preparing a list of recommended school closures and Friday said layoff discussions are under way and would be announced closer to April, when notices would be issued. “We are moving forward with the plan,” he said “Right now my focus is on my transition plan and the DEP (deficit elimination plan).”

    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110221/SCHOOLS/102210355/Michigan-orders-DPS-to-make-huge-cuts#ixzz1EeVXvnll

  51. The politics between Hoffa and Obama are interesting. There were two reasons why Hoffa went to bed with Obama. The first reason was to protect his members against low cost competition from Mexican truckers. The second reason was to lift the federal government trusteeship. That trusteeship was imposed over twenty years ago as a result of a RICO action brought by then US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. It has been a drain on the Union Treasury and a wonderful cash cow for former US Attorneys and Judges who serve in various administrative capacities under the consent decree at $500 per hour. Interestingly the Teamsters and Obama went to some lengths to deny that lifting of the trusteeship was the quid pro quo, but those denials are a lie. I have it on the best authority. What I do not know is whether any action has been taken on this yet, or whether Obama is holding it in his quiver for 2012. If not, and if Obama loses in 2012, the trusteeship will most likely continue because it is so beneficial to well placed Justice Department officials, who can always find some excuse not to lift it.

  52. “Why didn’t O come out and say something like this?”

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    He’s waiting to see which way the wind blows. Casualties be damned.

  53. Just watched Mathews promoting show on Maddow and as administrator pointed out, he did mamage to take a shot at Bill and Hillary, while calling Obama a man whose heart is with the people.
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    How does Matthew know this shit? Heart is with the people? Oh, he means Wall Street, not main street. He needs to be more specific. There is no evidence that Obama’s heart is with the American People. There is a mountain of evidence to the contrary. I think Matthews is on controlled substance–quite possibly seroquel and other anti psychotic drugs. I mean it. The guy is totally deranged.

  54. #
    ecoast
    February 21st, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    February 21st, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Hillary Clinton Urges Libyan Leader Muammar al-Gaddafi to ‘Stop Bloodshed’

    Why didn’t O come out and say something like this? About one third of O’s 2008 campaign funds – about $250 M – came from unaccounted, mostly foreign, sources. There is speculation that much of it came from Libya, Saudi and other sources. No wonder he is keeping quiet tonight, unlike the time when Mubarak was going down. Hillary’s statement today, while it is correct US policy, was trying to smoke Obama out and make him face his predicament. If O says anything negative about Gaddafi, I don’t think he would silently go down without ratting O out.
    ______________

    Agreed, ecoast- Hillary is dealing with one crisis after another more as a co-President than SOS-
    _______________

    “If O says anything negative about Gaddafi, I don’t think he would silently go down without ratting O out.”

    Time for Hillary to crack the whip and force him into making a statement (mistake) in support of the protesters and get Gaddafi roiling mad…

    from the latest story above… I believe this is True…

    ““We know that the regime is reaching its end and Libyans are not retreating,” the resident said. “People have a strange determination after all that happened.”

    AND this:

    “Gadhafi needs one more push and he is gone,” said lawyer Amal Roqaqie.”

    I do NOT believe this is True:

    Gadhafi’s son went on state TV early Monday with a sometimes confused speech of nearly 40 minutes, vowing to fight and warning that if protests continue, a civil war will erupt in which Libya’s oil wealth “will be burned.”

    “Moammar Gadhafi, our leader, is leading the battle in Tripoli, and we are with him,” he said. “The armed forces are with him. Tens of thousands are heading here to be with him. We will fight until the last man, the last woman, the last bullet,” Seif al-Islam Gadhafi said.

  55. Mathews was opining on the current unrest, and basically was suggesting that Clinton has always been with the people as a politician, Obama is with the people in his heart , and then made a comment about Hillary/Wisner regarding Egypt suggesting Obama was unhappy with their comments.

  56. Something to the effect that Hillary takes a more traditional/conservaative approach…I would call that a mature appraoch.

  57. Carter was the worst President of my lifetime…He did some nice work post presidency helping the poor, but his bias towards Israel nullifies any good he had done in my mind.

  58. jbstonesfan
    February 21st, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Matthews can propagandize for Obama all he wants- All people care about are RESULTS- So far, Obama’s lays a Big Fat Goose-Egg in that dept. However, the People have a very long memory of the Clinton Presidency that produced Peace and Prosperity, Homes and a Chicken in every Pot..

    They will do anything to have and encore of the 90’s- and will dump Obama at the first opportunity. Show them a way- and it will happen..

  59. #
    JanH
    February 21st, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    To elevate Carter to Bill Clinton’s level is such a joke.
    ______________________

    Cater has been included in the BC Special. More as a token showcasing his Habitat achievements rather than the mistakes made while president.

    The Carter clip showed him carrying bricks, while Clinton is shown carrying the People onto a wave of success.

  60. Bill’s knack for philanthropy has eclipsed the Billions and Billions of dollars Soros has given to philanthropic organizations. (to benefit his ulterior motives at future dates)

    Money can’t buy LOVE and Happiness!

    Bill’s formula for making people happy is helping them help others…

  61. Mrs.Smith,
    Thanks for the update….I’ve been busy tonight! I figured Jabba the Hut would take a couple of jabs at Bill and Hillary when he could…they did it today too on Fox…comparing Berlesconi to Clinton….I’m sick of all these POS’s. The world is falling into chaos and all we get is more sex jokes….for heaven’s sakes!

  62. Admin-

    The boycott/girlcott of MSNBC is still on. We are imposing Sharia law. Anyone who watches MSNBC will have their eyes gouged out, their ears cut off, their hands and feet amputated, and their nostrils stuffed with Michelle Obama’s armpit hairs.

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    Yeeehaw Admin, I wasn’t planning on watching tingles anyway, but the threat of MO pit hairs is too much to even imagine that torture.

    No way Jose’ will I watch it. I am doing laundry and trying to learn to read a knitting pattern for the first time in my life…that should keep me busy with some dump reality show in the background.

    Maybe someone will edit out tingles and we can watch just the Big Dawg.

  63. Shadowfax,
    That’s it lets edit O’tingles and just watch Bill, perfect fix to the problem!

    I haven’t heard crapo from Obama….where’s he at anyway hiding in MO’s suitcase for a trip that no one knows he’s on….LOL!

  64. confloyd
    February 21st, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Mrs.Smith,
    Thanks for the update….I’ve been busy tonight! I figured Jabba the Hut would take a couple of jabs at Bill and Hillary when he could…
    ___________________

    Surprise! I took one for the TEAM! Admin- will have to come over here and personally administer the punishment.. 🙂

    Matthews was on his Best Behavior tonight. It was ALL the glory of Bill tonight.. No slick moves from Matthews- No innuendo. (sigh)

    I will say this… Matthews had on his “human” mask tonight, though.. kinda a scary thought about Tweety!

  65. Mrs.Smith,
    Hell must have frozen over then, if Tweety was acting like a human being tonight! Geez with everything else going on in the world, it really must be Armagaddeon! LOL!

  66. One thing I did pickup on… was at the very end of the show.. Terry Mac said something strangely significant… he said something about an International incident happening- and thats it..

    This Special was made at least a month ago.. (I’ll have to go back on the recoding and listen a little harder for his exact words and their context..)

  67. There were so many good clips of Bill listening to people rather than just talking. To MSNBC’s credit, they did find some excellent clips from Indonesia, India (riding elephant with a child-like grin), North Korea, South Africa, other African countries, Northern Ireland, Haiti – and South Carolina. I liked the way he was lecturing at a university in Northern Ireland on how to improve their economy – more fish exports, more tourism, artisans, handicrafts, etc.
    He looked great too.

    Tingles has put on some weight. He is not on Michelle’s diet.

    Sorry admin – went against your fatwa. Couldn’t resisit Bill.

  68. admin
    February 21st, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Shadowfax, we need a volunteer to collect those armpit hairs. The job is still open. 🙂
    ———–
    I’m gonna have to pass on that offer Admin….I’m way too busy, but I am sure that confloyd with her scrubs and surgical garb would love the job. 😉

  69. @Shadowfax

    Scrubs and surgical garb my ass – you’ll need a flamethrower and a hazmat suit to get up in that.

  70. I say, send Michelle’s armpit hairs back to the WH.
    Address a manila envelope in c/o the man that brung her
    with a note… “Happy Presidents Day”!

  71. Admin. You had it so wrong.The ribute to Bill and Hill was great. Mathews had it right for them.Even if it had been an anti-Clinton special we must not be just one-sided.In order to form opinions and present them as we see them both sides must be heard.After all many talking heads and paid propagandists are beginning to see the error of their political choices.Obama was held out there for all to see hear and realize what a danger he has been to our country and world politics.I enjoyed every bit of the special and the inclusion of Hillary as this countrys best choice for the presidency.I have always felt that listening to both side makes me more ready to do battle for my choices.
    We all make mistakes Admin and we learn from them.
    BO and MO Pack your Bags.

    By ABM90 Now off to good nights sleep.

  72. Angry constituents confront John Kerry in Northampton

    By Associated Press
    Sunday, February 20, 2011

    NORTHAMPTON — A loud and angry crowd in Northampton confronted Sen. John Kerry over his support for the war in Afghanistan, the government’s response to the recession and other issues.

    Anti-war protesters interrupted Kerry numerous times Saturday as he met with constituents. Kerry apologized to a woman who said he called her a Neanderthal for not believing in global warming. The Democratic Party’s 2004 presidential candidate said he was referring generally to those who do not believe in global warming.

    Resident Steve Ganzel of Northampton criticized Kerry for failing to stem credit-default swaps, which insure against default of securities tied to mortgages and were blamed for partly causing the collapse of large banks. Kerry said he tried unsuccessfully to gather support for measures that would have imposed regulations.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1318170&format=comments&cnum=2

    and to boot- there are 135 angry comments at the link

  73. I hear echoes of Admin here. Whether you agree with Walker or not, it is pretty evident that this whole WI thing is a disaster for Obama and the Dims:

    It is becoming clear that the Wisconsin battle was a strategic political blunder for President Obama and the Democratic Party. The decision by the Democratic Party and its allies to draw a line in the sand in Wisconsin was the wrong strategy, in the wrong state, at the wrong time, on the wrong issue, and executed in the wrong way.

    The White House, which for the last two years seemed so tone deaf over health care, jobs, and the economy, may again be displaying a stunning political miscalculation. Unless the Democrats pull the plug on their ill-conceived Wisconsin campaign, the statewide and national backlash now beginning to emerge may continue to resonate all the way to the 2012 presidential elections.

    It will take time to unearth exactly who designed and sold the Wisconsin strategy to the president. But what is emerging is that the White House may have developed two strategies for 2011, not one. The first track, clear to us all, was for the president to tack to the right on the national stage, seek the statesmanlike high road, and negotiate deals with national Republicans.

    The second strategy, now emerging, was to pick a target outside the beltway that could serve as a broad political narrative, attack it, nationalize it, and use it to rally Obama’s demoralized political base. It was a bold strategy. They chose Madison, Wisconsin, Gov. Scott Walker’s budget-tightening initiative, and his effort to rein in public employee unions. They further decided to let loose angry union members serve as shock troops. Wisconsin would be the first test case, which would be replicated in other states, including Ohio, Indiana, and Idaho.

    The plan seems to have been born both within the war room of the Democratic National Committee and within the Oval Office. The overall coordination for the operation was the remnants of the president’s 2008 political campaign organization, Organizing for America (OFA). The strategy would be launched by the DNC and by the president, who, during the height of the Egyptian crisis, incongruously granted an exclusive interview to a Milwaukee TV reporter over union policy. While Cairo burned, he took time to decry a Wisconsin governor’s effort to rein in the budget and limit union benefits. Shaping the narrative for the attack, he said that Gov. Scott Walker’s effort “seems like more of an assault on unions.”

    The Wisconsin political blitzkrieg on Gov. Walker was not a spontaneous eruption. It is now clear that it was a highly organized operation planned in Washington, D.C., to unleash a national counterattack on the gains made by Republicans and Tea Party activists. Getting OFA and the president to act in close coordination was itself no small feat. The plan included busing in thousands of government employees, arranging for Democratic lawmakers to flee to an adjoining state, flying speakers and political organizers into Madison, organizing thousands to leave their jobs in public safety and in classrooms, and staging rallies inside and outside the statehouse. They even enticed sympathetic doctors to draft bogus doctor excuses for government workers.

    It all worked like a charm. Except that it struck all the wrong notes and portrayed all the wrong images. There is nothing more unseemly that to see a president serve as healer in Tucson and a political hack in Madison.

    For in the end, the images and messages tell the story. The showdown in Madison pits pampered public employees against hard-pressed taxpayers. It portrays union workers as an angry mob against those seeking orderly legislative deliberation. It paints Democratic lawmakers as outlaws on the run, undermining the democratic process. It launched a national debate about the generous salaries and benefits for government workers during a time of economic shortages. And it showcased school teachers who abandoned their children in favor of narrow, partisan political gain.

    This is a bad unraveling of a political campaign.

    More here: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/why-obama-and-the-dems-blundered-in-wisconsin/?singlepage=true

  74. ecoast,
    Jabba has gained some weight, huh? LOL! Well WHY isn’t he on Mo’s diet, she is obviously on it, from the backside pic Mrs. Smith posted the other night and anyone could see how little Mo’s butt is…LOL!

    Yeah, for sure a hazmat suit and a flamethrower…surgical garb won’t do for those, LOL!

  75. confloyd, MO’s diet is for the little people, not for HER. Last I read she was chowing down on burgers and cheese dip for the Superbowl, and short ribs on her ski holiday.

    The rules are for the peons, silly, not the rulers.

  76. ABM – was this actually said on the special?

    I enjoyed every bit of the special and the inclusion of Hillary as this countrys best choice for the presidency

  77. I’m with you, Admin.

    MSNBC (and Tweetie in particular) could have my mother on the air, and I still wouldn’t watch them.

  78. Who the hell would teach in that environment?
    ********

    Last Updated: February 21. 2011 11:12AM

    Michigan orders DPS to make huge cuts

    Bobb told to consolidate services, close half of schools to end deficit
    Jennifer Chambers / The Detroit News
    Lansing— Swift and severe changes are coming to Detroit Public Schools.
    State education officials have ordered Robert Bobb to immediately implement a financial restructuring plan that balances the district’s books by closing half of its schools, swelling high school class sizes to 60 students and consolidating operations.

    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110221/SCHOOLS/102210355/Michigan-orders-DPS-to-make-huge-cuts#ixzz1Ef6VjVHp

  79. But so many people have left Detroit – there has been a mass exodus. I’m surprised that consolidating schools would produce classrooms of 60 kids – seems like if they consolidated, they’d once again have normal sized classrooms, instead of undersized…

  80. That trusteeship was imposed over twenty years ago as a result of a RICO action brought by then US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. It has been a drain on the Union Treasury and a wonderful cash cow for former US Attorneys and Judges who serve in various administrative capacities under the consent decree at $500 per hour.

    ===============

    Paid from union dues collected by the government from members’ paychecks?

    A law letting those workers resign from the union and start a new one would be — unlikely to pass.

  81. I question the sanity of bringing the New York City Municipal Union (Local 237) into the midwest on this issue.

    =================

    I read that as ‘mideast’.

  82. Jimminy Cricketts, I had not heard of the volcano in the Phillipines, I did hear about the earthquake in New Zealand and Soros starting civil wars everywhere including here….I think the sheat is hitting the fan everywhere! WTH is happening!

    That pic of Khaddafi with an umbrella in a van….priceless!….It reminded me of Obama and Mo and that umbrella he was holding over her. They are cut off the same tree!

  83. According to the Jerusalem Post…the Iranian Warships are now crossing the Suez Canal…nothing from Potus on this….I hear nothing!

  84. turndown, yeah, he was over the top there. But the rest of the article is pretty good analysis of the bungling of this issue by the Dems and the union.

  85. Excuse me, but this is worse than a normal Conspiracy Theory. Look at all the people it says were not acting on their own but were put up to it by OFA.

    ————–

    The overall coordination for the operation was the remnants of the president’s 2008 political campaign organization, Organizing for America (OFA). [….]
    The plan included busing in thousands of government employees, arranging for Democratic lawmakers to flee to an adjoining state, flying speakers and political organizers into Madison, organizing thousands to leave their jobs in public safety and in classrooms, and staging rallies inside and outside the statehouse. They even enticed sympathetic doctors to draft bogus doctor excuses for government workers.

  86. I watched the President of the World special and did hear a jab or too at Bill. Most of it was pretty lightweight but great pictures of Bill and Hillary. However, Mathews couldn’t help saying near the end that Bill was angry and BITTER over the fact that the voters preferred Obama to Hillary. Wrong, the voters did not give the nomination to O, the party did. This is called reinforcing a lie until no one remembers the truth. We will.

  87. admin
    February 21st, 2011 at 11:05 pm
    Recall campaigns in Wisconsin?
    ***********************
    Please, please do not post videos with Stewart Varney in them. I watch a fair amount of news on Fox but when Varney comes on I immediately turn it off. He is a rabid rightwing partisan and you can’t believe, much less quote a word he says. He is slimy. Now I have to go wash my hands.

  88. Oh yeah and Mathews showed the Fairytale comment during the campaign and repeated that Bill had just gotten too political and over the top during the campaign, so it was not all sweetness and light. The pictures, the huge crowds, the screaming people and the children with Bill overrode all the usual media negative nonsense.

  89. Just to set the record straight-

    It was John Harris,(biographer) not Tweety, that said Bill was shocked and embittered over the superior choice of Hillary for the democratic nomination and there was a short clip in Bill’s own words saying “after 15 debates, Obama saying how he was against the War, when he never voted against it is nothing more than a fairytale.”

    Tweety volleyed a nice dig at the “fruitless” investigation of White Water and by association, Ken Starr. Tweety’s special was a fair and balanced representation of not only the Clinton presidency, Hillary’s 08′ campaign and the good works of The Clinton Global Initiative that the show itself was a fine historical representation of Bill Clinton’s Legacy as the greatest president of modern times.

    There was NOTHING off-putting at all in the Bill Clinton Special- it was all True to life and a true representation of historical facts as they happened for the good or not so good…

    Theres no reason not to watch it when it plays again, if you get the chance.
    _______________

    As far as admin’s comments in her original post, I for one took it as a joke thinking the satire was a little mean spirited and over the top and never took it seriously and why I channeled back- “I took one for the team” later in the night.

    The special showed a clip where Bill said- There’s an 80% chance when you say and do things when you’re mad, you’ll make a mistake. Over time, I’ve learned that lesson myself and cool off before I venture saying something in print, I may regret later on-

  90. it is the Street Supervisor who responded to a resident’s email that it was wrong for the Salt Trucks to engage in protest rally while on duty

    ====================

    The resident is lucky the Salt Trucks were on duty at all that day.

    And both sides need several grains of salt, imo.

  91. turndownobama
    February 22nd, 2011 at 1:37 am

    Excuse me, but this is worse than a normal Conspiracy Theory. Look at all the people it says were not acting on their own but were put up to it by OFA.

    ————–
    There are a few rational people around who don’t hold pajamasmedia in high regard…

    “Last year, Phyllis posted a pictorial at that God awful Pajamas Media, a website I will boycott till the day I die for removing Phyllis’ column from their otherwise batshit crazy lineup. Her time-lapse pictorial showed graduating classes from Cairo University from 1959 through 2004. … Behold what has happened to women in Egypt since 1959. Let me know what you see and whether you think anybody should bother being concerned for the rights of women in Cairo during this time of “Revolution’”.

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

  92. Watched Letterman last night as he had Rumsfeld on. He has written a book on President he has known. At the end of this Letterman asked what sort of grade he would give Obama. He never answered that question. What he did say is he was very disappointed in the Budget that Obama had presented. This morning I went to look for a clip that showed that. Guess what, that part of the conversation was eliminated from that interview.

  93. February 22, 2011

    The ABA’s Jihad

    By Pamela Geller

    The American Bar Association (ABA) has decided to undertake the fight for Sharia law. The ABA’s Executive Counsel “has organized a Task Force to review the legislation of 14 states — Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wyoming — in which anti-Sharia legislation has been introduced.”

    The goal of the ABA’s Task Force is to fight against these legislative initiatives by free people, and to develop “an informal set of ‘talking points’ that local opponents of these initiatives could use to make their case in each of these states.”

    Here’s the relevant extract from the ABA’s International Policies 2010:

    Oklahoma referendum related Rule of Law initiatives.

    The Section’s Executive Counsel has organized a Task Force to review the legislation of 14 states — Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wyoming – in which anti-Sharia legislation has been introduced. The goal of the Task Force is to have a Report and Recommendation against such legislation as well as an informal set of “talking points” that local opponents of these initiatives could use to make their case in each of these states. We received a lot of interest from members and have forwarded your interest. At this point, the task force is in the planning and organizing stage. We will keep you updated as to the progress and we may call upon some of you who expressed their interest in this matter to volunteer.

    In reality, Islamic law is the most radical and intolerant system of governance on the face of the earth. It denies the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and legal equality for women and non-Muslims. That’s why so many states are trying to ban it. The ABA should be on the forefront of this battle. The Oklahoma ban was brilliant but poorly worded (which is why a liberal judge found it so easy to overrule the will of the people) and had 70% of voters approving of it — it is clear that American people understand the Islamic threat to our constitutional republic.

    Instead, our cultural warlords in the mainstream media, academia and entertainment strictly enforce the blasphemy laws of Islam, which command that one must not insult or slander Islam. In Muslim countries, blasphemy is punishable by death; in the West, it is your character that is assassinated if you dare to speak out against the Islamic supremacist agenda. Our last line of defense was always the rule of law. So it is particularly jarring and deeply disturbing to come upon this latest initiative from the ABA, the last line of defense against sharia creep.

    Furthermore, the ABA’s “Middle East Law committee” has promoted Sharia finance for some time, with the same warmly positive slant.

    Unfortunately, the ABA is not alone in this. In late January, New York State Senator Kevin Parker introduced a bill to set up an alternative bond market that would comply with Islamic law regarding financial transactions.

    Has Kevin Parker ever heard of the separation of church and state, or in this case, mosque and state? I’ll be damned before my hard-earned taxpayer dollars go to zakat (jihad), or to the prohibition of pork, alcohol, and some forms of adult entertainment.

    This is the financial jihad.

    Meanwhile, the Los Angeles City Council passed a resolution recently that decried “Islamophobia.”

    The term “Islamophobia” itself is an enforcement of Islamic blasphemy laws. Islamic law commands that there be no candor about Islam or criticism of Islam. Any truthful statements about Islamic supremacism and violence are considered blasphemy. That’s why it is shocking that Los Angeles, which is just this side of Sodom and Gomorrah, is passing resolutions that accord with Islamic law. No one in America cares what and who you worship; just don’t force it upon us. I don’t care if you worship a stone, just don’t stone me with it. And stop telling us how many Muslims don’t commit jihadi acts. Of course they don’t. So what? I don’t believe in rewarding people for doing the right thing. I don’t believe in congratulating people for not committing acts of violence against people outside their religion.

    Thus the Los Angeles City Council’s passage of this resolution opposing “Islamophobia” and repudiating violence against Muslims is a step back centuries into the dark ages. According to the FBI, “hate crime” against Muslims is at its lowest in a decade, but acts of jihad are accelerating at warp speed. Yet the Los Angeles City Council passes no resolutions against jihad, honor killings, misogyny, gender apartheid, Islamic antisemitism, kuffarophobia, etc.

    Sharia is being imposed across state lines, across the country, by way of these varying initiatives. We must push back.

    And the ABA has nothing to say about any of this; it is too busy fighting against anti-Sharia, pro-freedom laws. It is yet another terrible sign of a morally inverted world.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_abas_jihad.

  94. When your opponents feel this strongly … don’t run over them.

    http://badger2305.livejournal.com/98233.html
    So it’s 2am here in Madison.

    I’ve just returned from the state capitol. Assembly Democrats are continuing to hold hearings to take testimony from ordinary people scared half to death by SB11 – Gov. Walker’s “Budget Repair Bill.” [….]
    I had my opportunity a little after 1am – please note that time. There were no Republicans present. [….]

    But it was the sleepers that left an impression with me.

    You see, hundreds if not thousands of people, worried about what the Republicans might do, decided that they needed to occupy the Capitol all day – and all night. [….]

    So I found myself weaving through an amazing number of people in sleeping bags and air mattresses, covered in blankets and winter coats, all sleeping in the people’s house.

  95. Pakistan is going after Musharaff’s head (in connection with Bhutto’s assassination).. Don’t know what the angle is.

  96. Bill Clinton special:
    Theres no reason not to watch it when it plays again, if you get the chance.
    ***********************
    I agree. Like I said, all the videos and interviews with Bill Clinton were wonderful and make it worth watching, even if it is moderated by Chris Matthews. Just get admin’s absolution first.

  97. NewMexicoFan
    February 22nd, 2011 at 10:02 am

    I just got a breaking news email that said the American’s kidnapped by the Pirates are dead.

    —————–

    What a tragic waste.

  98. I watched last night’s Clinton special in Canada. I found the host/interviewer to be like a gnat, huffing and puffing just to keep up with Bill.

    His questions to Bill were inane for the most part. Good coverage was tempered by mean obama worship coverage. But if the interviewer’s and msnbc’s goal was to humiliate and reduce Clinton’s accomplishments, they didn’t succeed.

  99. Fox is confiming that the people on the kidnapped yacht are dead. I haven’t heard the reason, did they try to fight back? I’ll wait for a statement from the govt. about if they plan to take any action on this.

  100. Fox is reporting that Obama is headed to Columbus Ohio to support the union protestors there. Well, that will make whatever support the protestors had plummet, as Obama has a knack for pissing people off when he sticks his nose in.

  101. Now Fox is saying that Obama is acrually headed to Cleveland to make a jobs speech and will he weigh in at Columbus? So it isn’t confirmed that he will go to the protest site.

  102. Michelle may take a Vail vacation now and then–mostly now, but like her hubby her heart is with the people. If they have no bread let them it cake, and if they have no water let them sip champagne from a glass slipper. Desperate times breed desperate measures, and the Obama’s are lighting the path to salvation between food orgies and lavish vacations. A fitting tribute to that pair of fraudsters:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFabjc6mFk4

  103. Do you suppose we could rush over to the Columbus strikers, set up a 60′ screen and speakers and play the Flineo “Modern Times” video? Madison?

  104. BigCatLover 10:37

    The only additional I heard were they were killed during negotiations. Now why would you kill all of them, as you have nothing to bargain with now. How terrible.

  105. So is Obie supporting the unions or not?
    Chuckulous Schumer is collecting campaign money on it (and in the process, accusing Repubs of doing what Dems did for 2 years):

    Here’s Chuckie: I’m sure you’ve watched as the hard-right governor of Wisconsin is doing everything he can to eliminate collective bargaining rights for the men and women working in state government. He may wish to take America back to the 1920s, when workers had no rights, but the rest of us certainly don’t.
    Tens of thousands of people at a time have been demonstrating at the state capitol for almost a week now, refusing to bow to this attack in the national battle over our rights. Let’s turn their attack into our strength. Show Wisconsin’s Governor Walker and his national hard-right allies that his attacks will only make us stronger — join me in making a contribution to go toward electing more Democrats to the Wisconsin State Senate. Of course, this uproar happened because Governor Walker tried to ram this rollback of workers’ rights through the legislature without adequate analysis, debate and discussion. snip

    This is worth a repeat:” Tens of thousands of people at a time have been demonstrating at the state capitol for almost a week now, refusing to bow….”
    Maybe Schumer could also persuade Obie not to bow.

  106. 2 pirates also dead on the yacht. CNN says there were 19 pirates on the boat and they are speculating that there was disagreement between the pirates because the US Navy says the 2 pirates were dead when they arrived.

  107. Last night I watched Bill Clinton show. This is the first time after New Hampshire primary in 2007 I tuned in MSNBC.

    On the whole it is good and every one here must see when it is rebroadcast.

    I am sure the fraud and his obnoxious wife were not happy at MSNBC. The title President of the World must have made them mad.

  108. In a Rassmassen poll 47% think the Reps have a plan, and 41% think the Dems do. Ya sure, Obama had a plan, and he was ready to implement it from day one. What do people based their opinions on, because actual performance of any sort of plan does not seem to be one of them. Words are so cheap.

    Having watched the Dems in action here in 2008, and seeing the union support, particularly the teachers union, if they lose the support of that union, they are in big trouble.

  109. Rights chief throws down gauntlet to UN council
    Tue Feb 22, 2011

    * Pillay urges reluctant rights body to act on Libya

    * Majority of members oppose calling emergency session

    * UN rights structure’s credibility on line

    By Robert Evans

    GENEVA, Feb 22 (Reuters) – United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay challenged the world body’s Human Rights Council on Tuesday to live up to its calling and take urgent action to help stop bloodshed in Libya.

    The move appeared to put Pillay, a former international criminal court judge, on a collision course with the 47-nation forum, which like her office has a mandate to defend and promote human rights around the globe.

    Pillay coupled her call with a stinging denunciation of the “callousness” of the government of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who witnesses said was using tanks and warplanes to fight a growing uprising against his 41-year rule.

    Libya is a member of the council and part of its majority developing-country bloc which works to fend off criticism of any of them and prevent real debate on their rights records.

    Pillay issued a fierce blast earlier this month over killings and kidnapping of protesters in Egypt — spokesman for “non-aligned” countries in the council — before the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak.

    Pillay made clear that she expects the five-year-old council to call a special session on the violence in Libya and back her in urging an international inquiry.

    But there was no sign that the majority — which includes China, Russia, India and 14 Islamic states — would agree. Many members she has criticised would like to curb her independence.

    A total of 16 countries, one third of the membership, must endorse a special session for one to be convened.

    It was not even clear she would be supported by enough Western countries, nervous about oil and gas supplies if a vengeful Gaddafi retained power in Tripoli.

    A senior Pillay aide made clear that she believed the council’s future as an effective body is firmly on the line.

    “It is certainly up to the council members if they want to reinforce or maintain any credibility,” said the aide, Frej Fenniche, who heads the Middle East and North Africa department in her office.

    Pillay herself cannot compel the council to call a special session — six of the 11 so far since 2006 have been on Israel — as it is as independent of her as she is of it.

    Reviewing council procedures over the past two weeks, countries in the majority bloc opposed any change that would make it easier to call special sessions.

    As events in Cairo unfolded, calls from non-government organisations for such a session — meant to highlight crises — went unheeded, leading even normally reticent U.N. officials to speak scathingly of the body.

    “Luckily the Egyptian people did not need to wait for the council to get rid of Mubarak,” said one privately. Another said the rights body had proved “totally irrelevant.”

    The council was set up in 2006 to replace a discredited earlier body that had become deeply enmeshed in wrangling and power-bloc politics. Human rights groups say the new body is now no better.

    “It is nothing more than a mutual protection club for authoritarian governments,” said Roy Brown, delegate to the U.N. in Geneva for the International Humanist and Ethical Union.

    http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE71L17J20110222

  110. ohanson
    February 22nd, 2011 at 11:01 am
    ——————-

    great idea! I wish we Hillary’s army was as organized as either of the union thugs or teaparty..

  111. Christ he has been going for an hour, he’s going to outdo the UN vomit.

    I’m sure he is being fed this, sounds like an earpiece feeding him lines.

  112. Her time-lapse pictorial showed graduating classes from Cairo University from 1959 through 2004. … Behold what has happened to women in Egypt since 1959. Let me know what you see and whether you think anybody should bother being concerned for the rights of women in Cairo during this time of “Revolution’”.
    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

    =====================

    Sounds like a good source of evidence, but I couldn’t find it.

    So, if things have been getting worse under Mubarak, why was the writer supporting Mubarak?

  113. Oh, for those who keep saying that Walker exempted the firefighters and police because they endorsed him – it’s NOT true. There are 314 police and firefighters unions in WI. 4 of the smaller locals endorsed Walker. All the rest endorsed the Democrat.

    Walker and a WI state senator took Chrissy Matthews to the woodshed over this – video at the link:

    During the campaign last November, leaders of the Milwaukee Professional Firefighters Association and Milwaukee Police Association appeared in an ad supporting Walker and blasting his opponent, Democrat Tom Barrett. Walker also won endorsements from the West Allis Professional Police Association and the Wisconsin Troopers Association

    Walker didn’t get the endorsements of two statewide unions, the Wisconsin Professional Police Association and the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin, which both backed Barrett.

    For the record, the governor told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the charge that he was exempting police and firefighters was “ridiculous.” He said he didn’t recommend changing the rules for police officers and firefighters because he didn’t want public safety work disrupted.

    We then contacted the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, the statewide union that endorsed Walker’s opponent last year. Executive director Jim Palmer said the statewide organization is much larger than the local Milwaukee police union that endorsed Walker. The state group has approximately 11,000 members versus Milwaukee’s roughly 1,400, he said.

    Similarly, the state firefighters association has more than 3,000, compared with the Milwaukee union’s 875.

    In reality, if Matthews or any of his staff knew had to do a Google search, this information is all a few keystrokes away. For instance,”THE WPPA ENDORSES TOM BARRETT FOR GOVERNOR”:

    Surrounded by law enforcement officers at a May 12th [2010] event, Tom Barrett received the endorsement of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association in his race to become the state’s next governor. […]

    The WPPA represents over 11,000 active and retired members from over 375 locals statewide. With over 70 years of service to law enforcement personnel, the WPPA is recognized as the leading law enforcement association in Wisconsin.

    Or how about “Wisconsin Professional Fire Fighters endorse Tom Barrett for governor.”

    Finally, on an even grander scale, “Barrett endorsed by National Association of Police Officers”:

    On behalf of the more than 240,000 men and women of law enforcement it represents, the National Association of Police Officers (NAPO) today endorsed Tom Barrett for Wisconsin governor in recognition of his long record of support for and public safety officials and issues.

    “NAPO is pleased to support your campaign and is confident of your support of Wisconsin’s law enforcement community,” NAPO executive director William J. Johnson wrote in a letter to Tom.

    NAPO is a coalition of police unions and associations from across the United States that serves to advance the interests of America’s law enforcement through legislative and legal advocacy, political action and education. Founded in 1978, NAPO now represents more than 1,000 police units and associations, 241,000 sworn law enforcement officers, 11,000 retired officers and more than 100,000 citizens who share a common dedication to fair and effective crime control and law enforcement.

    As such, this media meme advanced by Matthews Monday is a total fabrication.

    Either the “Hardball” host and his staff are completely incompetent and are incapable of identifying what is clearly available on the internet, or they are intentionally misinforming their viewers in order to show support for the protesters in Madison.

    Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/21/wisconsin-state-senator-smacks-down-chris-matthews-youre-completely-u#ixzz1Ehv0ErkN

  114. Show Wisconsin’s Governor Walker and his national hard-right allies that his attacks will only make us stronger — join me in making a contribution to go toward electing more Democrats to the Wisconsin State Senate. Of course, this uproar happened because Governor Walker tried to ram this rollback of workers’ rights through the legislature without adequate analysis, debate and discussion. snip

    =================

    His final point is sensible, moderate, and thank God with less snake oil!

    But as for a contrabution … lots of people are donating by phoning Madison pizza parlors to order pizzas for the protestors. 😉

  115. Obama hits loewst strong approval ever.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 21% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

    Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove.

  116. This is so not a clever idea…

    BREAKING: Indiana House Democrats have left the state (another bunch run away)

    They are going to get a bad name.

  117. moon, the sinking approval rating plus the Indiana Dems pulling a WI-style fleeing says to me that the Dims are doubling down on stupid.

  118. turndownobama
    February 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Her time-lapse pictorial showed graduating classes from Cairo University from 1959 through 2004. … Behold what has happened to women in Egypt since 1959. Let me know what you see and whether you think anybody should bother being concerned for the rights of women in Cairo during this time of “Revolution’”.
    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

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    Sounds like a good source of evidence, but I couldn’t find it.
    *****************************
    It was on a thread from last week. I’m trying to find it for you.

  119. Voice of America internet site hacked by IraniansBy the CNN Wire Staff

    February 22, 2011

    CNN) — A group calling itself the “Iran cyber army” claimed responsibility Tuesday for hacking into a number of Voice of America internet pages, according to reports from both Voice of America and Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency.

    The group displayed a message on Voice of America’s Farsi page, calling for an end to U.S. “interference” in the Muslim world.

    “Ms. Clinton, do you want to hear the oppressed voices of nations from the heart of America?” the group asked. “The Muslim world does not believe in U.S. deceit. We tell you, stop intervening in Muslim countries.”

    The action was taken “in response to the propagation of lies and plots of anti-revolutionary sites,” Fars reported, claiming that a total of 95 sites affiliated with Voice of America were hacked.

    Fars said that Voice of America acts as “part of the United States’ spying organizations.”

    Voice of America indicated that the cyber attack may have been launched in response to a recent ABC interview with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. During the interview, Clinton referenced the State Department’s opening of Twitter accounts in Arabic and Farsi, stating, “We want to be joining young people who, like young Americans, seek their right to express their views.”

    Voice of America noted that websites in other languages — including Azeri, Dari, Pashtun, and Urdu — were also targeted by the hackers.

    The Iranian government is among a number of regimes in the broader Middle East and Muslim world targeted by protesters in recent weeks.

    Thousands of security officers cracked down on landmark sites in Iran’s capital and other major cities Sunday, striking at throngs of protesters with batons and rushing others on motorcycles, according to witnesses.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/22/iran.voa.hacking/

  120. Would Hillary Clinton have been a better president than Obama?

    By Don Smith

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, most progressives probably judged that Hillary Clinton was more pro-war than Barack Obama. Because of her association with her husband and with business interests, she seemed tainted by centrist corporatism.

    On the other hand, she seemed more knowledgeable about health care and had had substantial national experience as first lady and in the US Senate.

    Moreover, in view of President Obama’s compromising and forgiving stance towards Republicans, and because of Hillary’s first-hand experience of nasty dirty-tricks that Republicans had inflicted on her and her husband, it’s reasonable to surmise that she would have been a more effective fighter for Democratic ideals. Perhaps she would have prosecuted Bush-era officials for their many criminal acts.

    Do you think Hillary Clinton would have made a better president than Barack Obama?

    I may follow this poll with another one asking: would you vote for Hillary Clinton if she chooses to run for president in 2012?

    Go to this site, scroll down, and vote…

    http://www.opednews.com/Poll/Would-Hillary-Clinton-have-by-Don-Smith-110222-721.html

  121. Lol….the next issue of Natl Geographic will track migratory patterns of fugitive runaway Dems across the great plains

  122. The restaurant chef in Vail where MO ate short ribs came back saying her ribs have only 600 cals, yeah right..

    For Confloyd, some good tip to keep us on our toes and on our treadmills.

    According to experts, a person who eats just 100 extra calories a day for a year can gain about 10 pounds in that time. Meanwhile, eating 100 calories less a day for a year will lead to either weight maintenance or even better, weight loss.

    http://www.forbes.com/2006/10/03/calories-dieting-fall-life-health-cx_sy_1004fatfood.html

  123. It may be a preemptive strike at the Ohio repub governor..
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    They are taking on the wrong guy. This guy looks like a boy but looks can be deceiving. He is the son of a postal worker and he is tough as nails. And there are no skeletons in his closet for the dims to blackmail him with.

  124. Lol….the next issue of Natl Geographic will track migratory patterns of fugitive runaway Dems across the great plains
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    There is a foldout map which marks the safe houses, speakeasies and the rat line of retreat for these cowards.

  125. moon @ 12:47, some are calling the absconding dems “Fleabaggers” LOL!

    I have a lot more reservations about public unions than private unions (which I wholly support in theory, though I have beefs with some). I think that’s true of many people. And I think that the public-sector unions, if they wish to have widespread support, need to acknowledge that their situation is not the same as a mine worker, and allow some brakes/reasonable limits on their collective bargaining because the intrinsic brakes of “the company having to compete and make a profit” don’t exist in their case.

    I’m not utterly opposed to public unions in any form. But I see problems with them that they’d do well to address if they don’t want even more backlash than they are getting. Trying to pass themselves off as the poor downtrodden being abused by the greedy employer is kind of STUPID, when the employer is not a private corporation but the voters and taxpayers, who don’t appreciate being painted as .a robber baron. They are really playing this badly from a public opinion standpoint.

  126. Kerry is such a brown nosing weasel. He wants her job, because he thinks she’s leaving. And she likely is.

    I said over a year ago that my dream, my hope (other than a presidential run) was that Hillary would choose the perfect time to walk out as SOS. That she would wait until the 2012 campaign got underway, at the worst possible time for negative press for BO, and pick precisely that moment to stab that arrogant fucker in the back and leave in a very public way, hurting his re-election chances badly, and smiling the whole time.

    I’d LOVE to see that!

  127. HillaryforTexas

    I guess I have to disagree about your generic use of the word Public Unions. I think you have had experience with specific public unions in the past in which they were fraudulent or wrong.

    My experience with public unions is they are hard to form, they ruin your career if you represent or orgaize them, and at one activity I worked with any idea of forming a union people were in fear for their lives. As a result management there was doing just as they please to include discriminating against older workers.

    I really feel even when Admin talks about the fat benefits and retirements that these Public Servants have you place that blanket on everyone, and it is just not true. In addition, many employees took lower yearly salaries Pcompared to Private industry, feeling their reward would come in the retirement, and benefits years. That was true for a lot of year. Some people in the Private sector were made rich with salaries and bonus that most Public employees could never obtain.

    Now that the economy has tanked and the private sector employees are not doing well, they are hot after a group of people that never made the salaries and benefits obtained in the Private sector in the past.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe in the over blown salaries given to Political appointed employees. But please do not generically state that the public sector have such embellished benefits and retirement. THAT SIMPLE IS NOT TRUE. They forfeited much to get what they have, the vast majority had adaquate retirement and benefits (remember no SS for them), and they for many years did not match the salaries, retirements, and benefits given in Prior years.

    In addition, they will be asked to balance this budget in a very significant way. Already Active and Retired Federal employees will not get ANY raise for 2 year with probably another 2 years to come. That sacrific is made even though their retirement accounts have the money, even though they talk like they can use this money toward the national debt, they can only use the money of the Active not the retired employees. Therefore, the retirees sacrifice their raises even though it has no impact on the debt.

    Please be very specific when you take about the Public Sector salaries. State the exact situation you know about, and remember even though that looks plush, for many years were not plush. Don’t worry they will sacrifice like everyone else, but please realize they have no way of recouping any of this in the future with bonuses, etc. In the private sector, if things turn around, the bonuses, especially for the Exective, and management will flow like the land of milk and honey.

    I personnel would never sign up to teach in the American School system, especially in the inner cities. Discipline has become a thing of the past, and many teachers fear for their lives.

  128. NMF, I agree that some particular unions have abused their power more than others. But the fact remains that it’s a widespread phenomenon, and one must speak in generalizations to some degree, if you are going to speak about the subject at all.

    And no, it is no longer true that public employees give up salary in order to get benefits. That WAS true in earlier decades, but it has not been true for quite some time now. Public employees on average make much more than their private sector counterparts, IN SALARY ALONE, not even counting generous benefits, and this was true before the financial crash ever happened.

    This chart is from the Bureau of Labor Statistics for 2009. This is not cherry-picked examples, it is the average of ALL public workers vs. private workers:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_otfwl2zc6Qc/S5gJ5bPx22I/AAAAAAAAM-Y/pMm66XAKRa8/s1600-h/employercost.jpg

    If the public unions continue, as you seem to be doing, denying that a widespread problem and discrepancy even exists at all, then expect public opinion to turn even more vehemently against them, to the point of getting rid of them altogether. I would actually prefer to NOT see that happen. But it will, if a stubborn refusal to face the facts persists. I’m not telling you what I personally want to see happen – I’m telling you what likely WILL happen if they continue to defend their advantages at taxpayer expense, without admitting to the problem.

  129. El Rushbo was on a roll this morning….I think he must read this blog too!! We were all talking about Mo’s behind yesterday….LOL! You go Rushbo!

    So what’s up with Khadaffi this morning….???

    You know what they are planning in Wisconsin…..they are going to fire all those teachers…ship in some illegal aliens to take their jobs and their houses from this horrid housing market and give them govt. backed loans to buy the houses Americans lost because there are NO jobs….Reaganomics to the hilt! As God is my witness I believe this is what the rethugs want to do…it’s what they’ve done numerous times!

  130. JanH,
    Kerry on Libya….please I just had breakfast and I’d like to keep it down…LOL! Old lantern jaw at it again, huh? How blatantly can you troll for someone’s job anyway???

  131. Gaddafi’s Last Hurrah! He prefers going down in a blaze of Glory taking hundreds of innocent civilians with him!
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    Defiant Gaddafi vows to die as martyr

    (Reuters) – Muammar Gaddafi vowed to die in Libya as a martyr in an angry television address on Tuesday, as rebel troops said eastern regions had broken free from his rule in a burgeoning revolt.

    “I am not going to leave this land, I will die here as a martyr,” Gaddafi said on state television, refusing to bow to calls from his own diplomats, soldiers and protesters clamoring in the streets for an end to his four decades at the helm.

    “I shall remain here defiant,” said Gaddafi, speaking outside one of his residences, which was heavily damaged in a 1986 U.S. bombing raid that attempted to kill him.

    Outside the building stood a monument of a giant fist crushing a U.S. warplane.

    In a trademark rambling address, Gaddafi urged his supporters to take to the streets, saying protesters warranted the death sentence. He also promised a vague overhaul of government structures

    Earlier, witnesses streaming across the Libyan border into Egypt said Gaddafi was using tanks, warplanes and mercenaries in an effort to stamp out the growing rebellion.

    In the eastern city of Tobruk, a Reuters correspondent there said sporadic blasts could be heard, the latest sign that Gaddafi’s grip on the oil and gas exporting nation was weakening.

    “All the eastern regions are out of Gaddafi’s control now … The people and the army are hand-in-hand here,” said the now former army major Hany Saad Marjaa.

    The White House offered its condolences for the “appalling violence” in Libya and said the international community had to speak with one voice on the crisis.

    The U.N. refugee agency meanwhile urged Libya’s neighbors to grant refuge to those fleeing the unrest, which was triggered by decades of repression and popular revolts that toppled leaders in Tunisia and Egypt.

    On the Libyan side of the border with Egypt, anti-Gaddafi rebels armed with clubs and Kalashnikov rifles welcomed visitors. One man held an upside-down picture of Gaddafi defaced with the words “the butcher tyrant, murderer of Libyans,” a Reuters correspondent who crossed into Libya reported.

    Hundreds of Egyptians flowed in the opposite direction on tractors and trucks, taking with them harrowing tales of state violence and banditry.

    In the eastern town of Al Bayda, resident Marai Al Mahry told Reuters by telephone that 26 people including his brother Ahmed had been shot dead overnight by Gaddafi loyalists.

    “They shoot you just for walking on the street,” he said, sobbing uncontrollably as he appealed for help.

    Protesters were attacked with tanks and warplanes, he said.

    “The only thing we can do now is not give up, no surrender, no going back. We will die anyways, whether we like it or not. It is clear that they don’t care whether we live or not. This is genocide,” said Mahry, 42.

    3 pgs

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/22/us-libya-protests-idUSTRE71G0A620110222

  132. HillaryforTexas.

    First of all, who computed those figues. Second, those figues are only true of State and local public employees. Third, does figures include bonuses. Exactly what was compared there. I don’t believe any figures anymore, unless I know exactly how they were figured, and were comparables included. Private industry employees have gotten a lot of benifits on the job in the past that public could not get away with. For instance, their base salary was low but their bonuses were obnoxious. If you are comparing the base salary of a sales person in Private, to those who performa sales function in the government, you will find that Private sales people get sales bonses and performance bonses. No such thing in the public sector.

    Yes, unfortunately, I do not have my head in the sand. I am sitting here with no chance of an increase in retirement for two maybe four years, any investments I made gone in the 9/11 wallstreet crash which i had no time to recover from, increase in medical, decreases in what medicare covers, increase in drug cost, and decrases in what they are going to pay, and health deteriorating.

    If you go to the Federal Retirement Wage and Grade schedules, figures published by the federal government, and I would assume accurate, the average Federal employee make maybe $60k with retirement maybe being 2/3 of that if they are lucky. If you were going to fairly gage the local and state employees, you would have to look at what they make vs local people in those areas.

    I am sorry, Texas, looking at one chart, not understanding what might have been behind the preparations of that chart, and the specifics is like painting everyone a witch in Boston because they made some concoction that bubbled.

  133. Mrs.Smith,
    Did you see Hillary making comments this morning about Libya? They let her talk for about 2 minutes and then cut her off…how long did they let Kerry talk???

    Every channel cut her off…I find that appalling!

    Is Muammar dead yet?

    Has anyone heard from Moon?

  134. NMF, I’m not going to change your mind, and you are not going to change mine. The figures are from the US govt. There are lots more out there if one cares to look.

    But I will tell you that you are hurting your own cause. And the blowback is going to be bad.

  135. Mrs. Smith,
    They cut her off! She only got on for a few minutes…Fox said they carried it online live….but I have to get ready for work….

  136. Republicans and the CIA installed these dictators and now innocent people have to pay the piper to get rid of them. For What? Protecting their GD “OIL”!
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    U.S. oil companies’ interests in Libya

    (Reuters) – A burgeoning revolt in Libya led to a call from Senator John Kerry, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, for all oil companies to cease operations in the country immediately.

    Many U.S. oil companies have interests in Libya. The following are details of their exposure, based on their latest annual reports:

    CONOCOPHILLIPS

    ConocoPhillips, the third-largest U.S. oil company, holds a 16.3 percent interest in Libya’s Waha concessions, which encompass nearly 13 million gross acres. Net oil production from Libya averaged 45,000 barrels per day in 2009 — or 2 percent of worldwide output — down from 47,000 bpd in 2008.

    MARATHON OIL CORP

    Marathon has a 16 percent interest in the outside-operated Waha concessions in the Sirte Basin. Its 2009 exploration program included the drilling of four wells, along with five development wells. Net liquid hydrocarbon sales from Libya were 46,000 bpd in 2009, or 19 percent of its total. Marathon said on Tuesday its Waha production was normal.

    HESS CORP

    In 2009, Hess produced 22,000 bpd of crude from Libya, or 8 percent of its crude output. At the end of 2009, 23 percent of its proved reserves were in Africa, with Libya making up 11 percent of that. Along with its Oasis Group partners, Hess has operations in Waha, with an interest of 8 percent. Hess also owns all of Area 54 offshore, where it drilled an exploration well in 2008, followed in 2009 by a down-dip appraisal well.

    OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM CORP

    Occidental, the fourth-largest U.S. oil company, earned $243 million in net sales from Libya in 2009, or less than 2 percent of its total. Production increased in 2010, and Oxy has plans to double its output from Libya by 2014.

  137. confloyd
    February 22nd, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Mrs. Smith,
    They cut her off! She only got on for a few minutes…Fox said they carried it online live….but I have to get ready for work….
    _____________________

    So, Kerry is the foreign policy rising star ready to step into her shoes after they push her out..

    Here he is again… the outwardly most corrupt Senator working for the elites.

  138. Clinton: Libya must end violence against protesters

    Tue Feb 22, 2011

    WASHINGTON Feb 22 (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday Libya must end violence against protesters seeking to end Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s 41-year rule and the United States would take “appropriate steps” in time.

    “As we gain a greater understanding of what actually is happening — because you know, of course, that communication has been very effectively shut down and we are trying to gather as much information as possible — we will take appropriate steps in line with our policies, our values and our laws,” she told reporters. “But we are going to have to work in concert with the international community.”

    http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFWEN823120110222

  139. Clinton to answer questions from Egypt’s youth in online interview
    By Bradley Klapper (CP) – 1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will answer questions from Egyptian young people, in an online interview meant to show U.S. support for the country’s pro-democracy movement.

    The interview will be posted Wednesday on an Egyptian social media website. The State Department says users already have submitted almost 6,500 written questions, videos and audio files through that website, called Masrawy, or through the State Department.

    Masrawy attracts nearly 600,000 visitors each day, mostly Egyptians and many below age 35.

    Many young people in Egypt have a low opinion of the United States after its decades of support for the autocratic ruler Hosni Mubarak, who was removed from office this month.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gVSr0tvT5S5c0UUsk-pCcw9FDSEQ?docId=6031440

  140. US sends search team to NZealand
    (AFP) – 2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — The United States sent a search and rescue team to New Zealand on Tuesday to help in the aftermath of a powerful, deadly earthquake that hit the country’s second city.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sent a message of support to the people of New Zealand saying she was “deeply saddened by the news that a second major earthquake in six months has struck Christchurch.”

    “The United States stands ready to provide assistance to the government of New Zealand and to the brave people of Christchurch,” Clinton said in a statement, sending condolences on behalf of President Barack Obama.

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this terrible tragedy, especially the families of the victims, and with all the people of New Zealand,” she added…

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hzQsRsq1wlkFVsus2QZbRJpm6lAQ?docId=CNG.6958fb04d3c57d0b70f59e2da6073d5e.6b1

  141. Obama’s strange silence on Libya

    Once again, the White House has fluffed its lines on the Arab revolution. With Gaddafi’s helicopter gunships strafing his own people, with corpses piling up on the streets of Tripoli, President Barack Obama has remained silent.

    He did make a speech today, in Ohio, at a “Winning the Future Forum on Small Business”. Winning the future is the president’s new slogan. Boosting small business is essential to strengthening the American recovery.

    But winning the future in the Middle East and north Africa matters too. This was a ready-made opportunity to make brief remarks that would have not just urged restraint on the Libyan dictator but urged him, if not to step aside, then recognise the forces for change in his country.

    There must be many, many people in Libya who are fence-sitting at the moment; the right words of support from the president of the United States could make all the difference to a tribal leader, an army colonel, the head of a provincial lawyers’ guild uncertain about throwing in their lot with those already brave enough to take to the streets or disown Gaddhafi.

    The administration’s output on Libya has been thus: a brief written statement from the president condemning violence and supporting basic rights, issued on Friday; a similar statement issued by Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, on Monday, and a televised statement by Clinton today, in which she strongly condemned the violence. The Secretary of State is of course a powerful voice, but this was on occasion when the top man was required.

    The White House is perhaps worried that supporting the opposition too strongly would only inflame Gaddhafi and his sons even further. It would point to the fact that behind-the-scenes rather than public pressure on Bahrain’s ruling family led to the troops lowering their guns.

    But Libya provides an opportunity to divert from the script now prepared for the rest of the Middle East – condemning violence, calling for restraint and respecting the rights of protestors. Col Gaddhafi may not listen to the US, which has little or no leverage on his oil-rich fiefdom, but that is even more reason for the president to forcefully place himself on the right side of history.

    The flames of change are already lit in Libya, and the president needs to do his best to make sure they blow in the right direction.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/alexspillius/100077264/obamas-strange-silence-on-libya/

  142. imo…msnbc’s ‘BC Prez of the world’…was Bill Clinton lite…yeah, it was essentially positive with many photos but from my POV did not rise to the occasion and give BC the true respect he deserves…and Dave Maraniss had his usual snarky comments…ie…”Bill running his whole life for the prez”…”now bill running to be pres of the world”…that kind of snarky observation laced with sarcasm…as opposed to focusing on the amazing good he has done, what a great man he is, etc…

    yeah, Matthews is enamored evidently because his son worked with the CGI in Africa and CGI was successful in cutting out the corruption to get needed medicine to people…guess Matthews has a soft spot from his ‘peacecore’ days…

    however Matthews did take the usual veiled shots at Bill and Hill in promoting the show…as was stated by JBStones…as Bill is all politician but O has his ‘heart’ with the people…bla, bla

    my observation is Matthews thought to capitalize, on the hard to miss, amazing good works Bill has created all over the world and the profound love the world has for Bill and Hill…further, Matthews has been hard pressed to find any criticism of how hard Bill supported the election efforts for the Dem party and how Bill and Hill supported O to get him elected…

    MSNBC may be idiots but they know who are the most powerful, popular and important democrats…and they know to try to keep their dimwit in office they cannot afford to keep the vendetta against the Clintons public, but must rather pay homage to Bill and Hill because they will be dearly needed for dimwit’s chances in 2012…

    Matthews and MSNBC are motivated to spotlight the Clintons because they need them…they, along with O, cannot be trusted…

    ****************************

    btw…I, and I am sure many others, noticed Bill was President of the World long, long ago…years ago…duh! Matthews seems to think he just woke up to this ‘amazing phenomenon’

  143. These developments in Bill C’s show on Mudball are so disgusting! The man is a great man and he was a Great President and his wife would have been a great President if it wouldn’t of been for these men with the “little dick syndrome”.

  144. BCL said:
    Here is the link to the thread with the photos of the Cairo Univ graduating class since 1959:
    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/women-of-egypt-then-and-now/

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    Thanks, BCL. Uppity sure writes well!

    Here’s a comment from over there:

    An interesting thing about those photos is that the percentage of women in the photos keeps going up. The last one has to be at least 2/3s women, if not more. Why is that, are the men going abroad to study? Or are women just going to college in ever increasing numbers, like here?

  145. Lol….the next issue of Natl Geographic will track migratory patterns of fugitive runaway Dems across the great plains

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    LOL!

  146. HillaryforTexas
    February 22nd, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    —–
    Since I also work in the public sector and know what is going on around me, I am surprised that the link you provided was a little chart on a blog.
    To me, that doesn’t prove public employees are over paid compared to private employees.

    Here is an article that discusses how this isn’t cut and dry based on things like a person’s education, etc…

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    Rutgers University studies public versus private employee salaries

    Nothing destroys the fun of an argument more than facts. They get in the way of rhetoric and turn black-and-white issues into muddy shades of gray. That’s nowhere more true than in the fight over pay for New Jersey public employees.

    Leave it to Rutgers, New Jersey’s state university, to hold a conference that raises questions about popular contentions — for example, that public employees make much more than private, that they are the highest paid anywhere, or that their numbers are multiplying out of control.

    Not necessarily so, say some experts on labor and management relations who presented their findings in New Brunswick the other day. Jeffrey Keefe, an associate professor at the university’s School of Management and Labor Relations, said public employees do not make more than comparable private employees.

    • The 2010 New Jersey State Budget
    According to Keefe, comparing private and public employees with the same educational level, experience and work schedule shows private employees make 11 percent more in wages and 5 percent more in total compensation than public workers.

    “It’s hard to show that public workers are overpaid compared to private sector workers,” said Keefe, but he quickly added: “Even though their wages are lower, it’s also hard to argue they are underpaid.’’

    In other words, it’s not simple.

    Using the latest federal data, Keefe said the average total compensation for workers in the private sector with bachelor’s degrees is $89,041 compared with $56,641 for public workers.

    For workers with professional degrees — lawyers, say, or doctors — the gap is more dramatic: $175,141 in the private sector, $79,330 in the public.

    Where public outdoes private is among workers without much education. The average compensation for a public worker without a high school diploma is $41,000, compared with $27,719. With diplomas, employees in both sectors make $44,000.

    Public workers are more educated than private — 57 percent have college degrees and higher, compared with 44 percent. Because workers in all sectors are paid according to education and skill levels, lumping them all together — the least skilled with the most — is misleading.

    Using older data, another Rutgers faculty member, economist William Rodgers, said that between 1970 and 2000, the private employment market for less educated workers — especially men — collapsed. At the same time, the introduction of collective bargaining in the public sector allowed public workers to maintain wages and benefits.

    In 1970, Rodgers said, male private employees earned more in wages alone than male public employees. By 2000, the gap had closed and public workers made “slightly” more — 3 percent for state employees. In 2000, female workers were making nearly 13 percent more than private sector workers.

    Public jobs opened for educated women just as private jobs for less educated men disappeared. New Jersey’s manufacturing base, which once provided good jobs for less educated men was history, along with union protections and benefits the jobs provided.

    But the public sector has not grown substantially in the last 30 years, According to Carl Van Horn, another professor just appointed to the state’s Council on Economic Advisers by Gov. Chris Christie, about 16 percent of all New Jersey workers are employed by government, compared with 14 percent 40 years ago.

    Much of that growth was driven by federal spending, not state.

    Van Horn, who opened the conference, said he hoped the presentation of facts showing the complexity of the issue would “start a dialogue” about public employee compensation, but he conceded he was not optimistic.

    “It’s very depressing to hear and read all the vitriol,” he said.

  147. Eh- For the first positive documentary ANY media has given the Clintons. I see it as a WIN!

    I’ve been reviewing commentary about the Clintons since 98′ during the Impeachment Hearings… and believe you me, this is truly a first for them getting this much solid positive publicity in their lives.

    So, yeah, you can fine tooth comb the interview and find a tetch here and there, a tongue and cheek moment, but overall… it’s the best the Clintons are going to get from the teeth grinding media who have treated them from day one like second class citizens and ignored all they have done over the last 35yrs. The persecution of the Clintons began after he announced he was running against GHWBush in 91′ then adding insult to injury… He WON!!
    ___________________

    aside:

    My favorite quote from the docu-drama:

    “That Special Relationship” the relationship between Tony Blair and Bill Clinton when Tony became PM that made me laugh out loud..

    It was when Bill said to Hillary:

    “He/she’s from Liverpool, thats the Arkansas of England”… I just lost it when he said that and couldn’t stop laughing…

  148. NewMexicoFan
    February 22nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    HillaryforTexas

    I guess I have to disagree about your generic use of the word Public Unions.

    +++++++++++++

    Very good points in your post, NMF! I favor “right to work”, but let’s not screw the public employees. By choosing public sector, they GAVE UP SOCIAL SECURITY. So let’s not screw with the pensions and benefits they do have.

    Bad guys are trying to raid ALL pension funds. Social Security has plenty of defenders, it’s nationwide, we all understand it, most of us have family members collecting it. So the bad guys are going after the separate pension funds one by one.

  149. Gaddafi’s Last Hurrah! He prefers going down in a blaze of Glory taking hundreds of innocent civilians with him!

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    Does he have The Bomb?

  150. Republicans and the CIA installed these dictators and now innocent people have to pay the piper to get rid of them. For What? Protecting their GD “OIL”!

    =======================

    Very good point!

    I saw a bumper sticker, “Biodiesel, no war required.”

    Try, “Green energy, no dictators required.”

  151. Shadowfax, good info in the NJ workers study:

    Public workers are more educated than private — 57 percent have college degrees and higher, compared with 44 percent. Because workers in all sectors are paid according to education and skill levels, lumping them all together — the least skilled with the most — is misleading.

    And that’s just in New Jersey. In an agricultural state, there would be more discrepancy.

    h4t, I admire your posts, but imo here you are looking at too abstract, too generalized a level. You can’t really prove much by arguing that the average American has one ovary and one testicle.

  152. Admin: what a fine essay you have posted above. It dovetails nicely with Chris Hedges’ astute observation in his seminal book Death of the Liberal Class below. In a larger sense it is symptomatic of what is dangerously wrong with out culture:

    “The election of Obama was one more triumph of illusion over substance. It was a skillful manipulation and betrayal of the public by a corporate power elite*. We mistook style and ethnicity–an advertising ploy pioneered by Calvin Klein and Benetton –for progressive politics and genuine change. The goal of band Obama–as with all brands–was to make passive consumers mistake brand for experience. And this is why Obama was named Advertising Age’s Marketer of the Year for 2008, beating out Apple and Zappos. (* Soros, Immelt, Goldman Sachs, Jamie Dimon–my note).

    Obama had almost no experience besides two years in the Senate where his voting record was a dismal capitulation to corporate power. But the electronic hallucinations that assaulted us rendered most voters incapable of thought and response. The superficial, the trivial and the sensational mask our deep cultural, economic, political and environmental disintegration as well as the newest political diversion approved by the corporate state.

    Celebrity culture (epitomized by Obama) is a culture of faux ecstacy, since the passions it generates derive from staged authenticity rather than genuine forms of recognition and belonging. Materialism and the revolt against materialism are the only possible responses. Neither is capable of engineering the unifying beliefs and practices that are essential to religious belief. The cult of distraction is both a means of concealing the meaningless of modern life and reinforcing the power of a commodity culture. Celebrity culture provided monumental images of elevation and magic. The psychological consequences of this enjoin us to adjust our material circumstances and forget that life has no meaning. The belief that we can make things happen by visualizing by wanting them and by tapping into our inner strengths is peddled to us by all aspects of culture from the Christian Right to Oprah.

    Our mediocre and bankrupt elite concerned with its own survival, spends its energy and our resources trying to save a system that cannot be saved. Once credit dries up for the average citizen, once massive joblessness creates a permanent and enraged underclass, once the cheap manufactured goods that are the opiate of our consumer culture, once water and soil become too polluted to sustain pockets of human life, we will probably evolve into a system that resembles classic totalitarianism. Cruder more violent forms of repression will be employed as the softer mechanisms of control prove useless.”

  153. Now this is playing hardball. I am laughing, Gov Walker played hardball.

    State senators who miss two or more session days will no longer get paid through direct deposit. They’ll have to pick up their checks in person on the Senate floor during a session.

    The new rule is aimed at forcing the return of 14 Senate Democrats who have been hiding in Illinois since Thursday. They fled the state to stall a vote on an anti-union bill, and have threatened to stay away until Republican Gov. Scott Walker agrees to compromise. Tuesday’s vote was along party lines. The three Republicans on the Committee on Senate Organization voted for it and the two Democrats opposed it.

  154. Shadowfax
    February 22nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    The figures in this article are interesting in how they compare to the figures given for Ohio public employees on Columbus on the Record, WOSU last Friday night. Public workers make 4-6% less than peers in the private sector; those with college degrees make even less than their private sector peers (25%).

    And this part of the article is the most upsetting in that Americans are being encouraged to attack each other rather than actually dispassionately discussing the issues:
    “Van Horn, who opened the conference, said he hoped the presentation of facts showing the complexity of the issue would “start a dialogue” about public employee compensation, but he conceded he was not optimistic.

    “It’s very depressing to hear and read all the vitriol,” he said.

  155. At this rate, Malta is gonna have a whole new fleet for free.

    Al Jazeera breaking: @AJArabic Correspondent: A Libyan battleship arrives in Malta after refusing Gaddafi’s orders to shell Benghazi

    Gaddafi must be pissed.

  156. Shadowfax, I have no idea, i cannot get any info and they cannot get info out.

    I’m really terrified now considering Gaddafi has gone completely mooey loco, he may well use foreigners as human shields. He is that sort of man.

  157. Mrs. Smith
    but overall… it’s the best the Clintons are going to get from the teeth grinding media who have treated them from day one like second class citizens and ignored all they have done over the last 35yrs. The persecution of the Clintons began after he announced he was running against GHWBush in 91′ then adding insult to injury… He WON!!
    ***************************
    You sure are right there! I was pleased and a little suspicious at the flattering and positive things they did say in the show. In other words, they were pretty honest about Bill Clinton for a change.

    I read Tony Blair’s recent book he wrote on his time as Prime Minister and he makes no bones about what a fan his is of Bill Clinton. It’s nice to hear from someone who was also a top policician and went through some of the same things in his political life. I read his book to find out how he managed to solve the Irish problem and was surprised to hear how much BC helped out there. At the time, I had no idea Bill had helped bring the English and Irish together.

  158. moon – has cell service been cut or the internet?

    I can’t imagine what you or your friends are going though.
    Do you feel safe in Turkey?

  159. Last i heard there was 100 of them sheltered together but this can only last for so long, because food will soon become an issue and other stuff, I can’t sleep with worry.

  160. Menendez unveiled “a Senate resolution Tuesday condemning Moammar Gaddafi”

    Yeah that’s told him, ffs.

  161. I think the unions are making a big mistake in Wisconsin. If they follow through on their threat to launch a general strike across the state, the public will be enraged. In good economic times, the public is inclined to respect the rights of union to engage in peaceful picketing, and to withhold services. But that it not what they are talking about here. A general strike which of any duration will cause food shortages and a breakdown of civil order. We know what these people are capable of from what we saw in the primaries–and their assaults on Tea Parties. A general strike would take the entire state hostage, and many people across the country will see this for brown shirt tactics. Bottom line: if the unions take this step they will be cutting their own throat. And they will forfeit any sense of the moral high ground. 88% of the workforce today is non union, and they will have no patience with massive civil unrest orchestrated by union goons and anarchists who have descended upon the state from New York and other states. And neither for that matter will many of their members–who will resent being pawns in this game. If I were advising the union, I would tell them they need to back off. This is the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  162. Evening news update LIVE from Libya 6:30pm est:

    Libya’s military has abandoned their quarters and are officially standing with the people. Rebels are confiscating powerful weapons from military compounds are arming themselves against rumors Gaddafi is hiring mercenarys to shut down protesters. (mercenarys want to get paid (up front) Otherwise why would they bother if Gaddafi is ultimately doomed now that 30% of Libya is in the hands of the rebels/protectors ?)

    Libya’s border is wide open- no border guards- walk in and out at will.

  163. wbboei
    Bottom line: if the unions take this step they will be cutting their own throat.
    *************************
    The unions would say if they don’t take this step they will be cutting their own throat. I plan to withhold judgement and watch how this plays out. We’ll see just how far each side is willing to go.

  164. Egypt has been setting up refuge camps along the border to take in Libyan refugees. Considering that Egypt just went through this, it sounds like a nice humanatarian gesture.

  165. Heres another one……

    Running battles and Gun battles erupt in Ivory Coast’s main city. I’m starting to feel left out, its all going on around me and i’m sat on the Med just looking out at the sea and wondering where its all gonna end. All i need is Greece to go off again and i am fully surrounded.

    I’m bordered by Georgia where the russians are fighting with them for a longtime, Armenia which the Turks hate, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Greece, Cyprus across the water, and if i drove a boat straight south, i’d hit Libya and Egypt.

    Seriously what the fuck am i doing here, lol.

  166. As signs in Wisconsin announce support for Egypt, and as new nations daily add their voice to the call for justice, it is clear that each of these protests is no local phenomenon. Humanity as a one is reacting against the last four decades of globalization, against food prices artificially increased due to the hyperinflationary bailout of Paulsen, Bernanke and Obama, which has distributed trillions of dollars to the bankrupt, casino-style financial system recently identified by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission report to have been a fraud, and to have caused the financial crisis we are now deeply engaged in.

    Governors, city councils, public service employees, and citizens in general are turning on each other, blaming one another as the cause of “excess spending;” but these attacks are missing the point. What the FCIC report details, which British-puppet President Obama has refused to acknowledge, is that this crisis was caused by the decades-long process of eliminating critical banking regulations, which separated the worthwhile functions of the economy from the speculation of financial predators, as seen especially in the deregulation of financial derivatives, and the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall. Now cities and states are bankrupt, drowning in a situation of collapsing revenue and increased demands for aid, with no hope of change in sight.

    Glass-Steagall, if reinstated last year, would have prevented this condition. President Obama opposed it then, as now, because the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall will destroy the entire system of the London-centered empire, as not only hedge funds and other financial institutions would be forced into bankruptcy, but as governments everywhere, led by the United States, would have reasserted the priority of their citizens’ welfare, and the integrity of their national economies, over the failed bets of Wall Street whores and their City of London imperial mother. Once reinstated, and the trillions of dollars of worthless gambling debts wiped off the books, the Federal government can issue credit towards productive projects, to reverse the collapse of physical production, and give emergency aid to the states.

    We are at a moment of history in which what was seemed true yesterday, has been proven false today. The question, as posed by the “headless” outcome of the French Revolution, is, will the decisions we make in this moment of opportunity, create a stable, lasting change towards a higher quality of existence? It is for this reason, that our slate of candidates is demanding a reassertion of the “self-evident” principles of our Constitution and Declaration of Independence, beginning with the removal of clinically insane President Obama, and the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall.

    The founding principles of this nation were always intended to represent all of humanity, and being “self-evident,” are now appearing, as if spontaneously, but in truth lawfully, as a response to decades of destructive policies around the globe. As Hamilton wrote in The Farmer Refuted, “The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of divinity itself.”

    Our government, created as an institution of the people, must be a vehicle of those interests again.

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    Harley Schlanger on the Non-Local Crises
    1 hour ago

    LPACTV Editor Chris Landry interviews Harley Schlanger, Lyndon LaRouche’s Western State Spokesman. Harley debunks the idea that the seemingly different protests going on around the world are local phenomenon. From Wisconsin to Bahrain a process is underway in which the people of the world, who’s entire way of life is being changed forever, are rejecting the British Empire. (video – stream or download. Harley should be on national TV.)

    http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17569

  167. Cannon is a brain dead bot. He claims to support class struggle, but worships Obama who is a puppet of the corporate state. He is typical of what Hedges talks about above. Gullible and seduced by the brand.

  168. The OIL Co’s are having a Hay-Day reaping record profits..
    OIL is over $100+ a barrel. (like $108 pbr)

    Is this the result of Sen John Kerry suggesting OIL Co’s shut down oil production in Libya today? If So, when is Obama going to release oil from our Reserves, a stock pile of millions of gallons in case of emergencies. Or are we going to wait until pump prices reach $5-$10 dollars a gallon driving up the food prices further then they have ever been in US history?

    Apples $3.00/ea.. Apple Pies $75.00… $10.00 a slice.

  169. Ohanson–Harley is a friend, and he is absolutely right. We need Glass Steegle. There is a direct connection between Wall Street and the City of London. The Swiss and German Banks as well. We have proof that they helped plan Obama’s campaign. Wolf of UBC was one of them. The Soros connection is more blatant. The tragedy here is that if we had taken the money which was appropriated for tarps and given it to the states rather than foreign banks this problem would be mitigated.

  170. wbboei
    February 22nd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
    Cannon is a brain dead bot. He claims to support class struggle, but worships Obama who is a puppet of the corporate state. He is typical of what Hedges talks about above. Gullible and seduced by the brand.
    ******************************
    LOL. I know, I know. I said read the comments, not the article since he can be pretty far out. However, he does slam Obama in the article.

  171. Frank and Dodd nixed Glass-Steagall, said it was an antiquated unnecessary component hamstringing business. The Tobin Tax is the next line of defense. Don’t know what is the consensus on that. Krugman liked it in 09′. (?) Tarpley is in favor as well.

  172. If they would just pass Glass/Stegall again, there might be a ray of hope for the future economics. Wouldn’t solve every problem but would be a start.

  173. ohanson
    February 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
    As signs in Wisconsin announce support for Egypt,
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    This afternoon CNN showed a guy in Egypt saying in English that he supported Wisconsin. CNN thought it was a hoax at first but confirmed that he was indeed in Egypt and wanted to support the protestors in Wisconsin. Small world.

  174. I guess I better fill up the truck while I can still get it filled up for $100….Geez, I may be moving to rusk….

  175. Rhode Island protesters rallyd at the State House today in support of WI.. This thing is going viral. Huzzah! 😀

  176. Yes, moon- don’t take any unnecessary chances..
    __________________

    Frontline has a one hour special on tonight @9pm featuring the youth movement and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    wonder how much of it will be propaganda selling the MBs as just your regular down to earth friendly Joes?

  177. Mrs. Smith,
    Isn’t Rhode Island kind of known for its protesting?? Yeah, I think the whole globe is pist off at the rich assholes….what you think???

  178. Libyan diplomats resign in protest of bloody crackdowns

    Ambassadors to US, India, Arab League, Indonesia take a stand against Gaddafi’s regime.

    Libyan diplomats all over the world resigned from their positions on Tuesday, in protest a bloody crackdown against protesters by their government.

    Libya’s ambassador to the United States Ali Aujali resigned on Tuesday and said that he no longer represents his country’s “dictatorship regime,” Reuters reported.

    Aujali called on Muammar Gaddafi to depart during an interview on ABC television’s “Good Morning America.”

    “I resign from serving the current dictatorship regime. But I will never resign from serving our people until their voices reach the whole world, until their goals are achieved,” Aujali said.

    Also Tuesday, Libya’s ambassador to Indonesia Salaheddin M. El Bishari, resigned and told the English-language Jakarta Post newspaper in an exclusive interview: “Soldiers are killing unarmed civilians mercilessly. Using heavy weaponry, fighter jets and mercenaries against its own people. It is not acceptable.”

    He said, effective Tuesday, he also was stepping down from his posts in Singapore and Brunei Darussalam.

    “I have enough of it. I don’t tolerate it anymore,” he said.

    Michael Tene, a spokesman for Indonesia’s Foreign Ministry, said he had been informed about the decision, but provided no details.

    At the same time, key Libyan diplomats disowned Gaddafi’s regime and the country’s deputy UN ambassador called for an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council that will take place Tuesday.

    Libya’s ambassador to Bangladesh, A.H. Elimam, also resigned to protest the killing of family members by government soldiers in Libya, said a senior official at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Dhaka.

    The official said Elimam informed the foreign ministry about his resignation late Monday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue, and provided no other details.

    In India, Libyan Ambassador Ali al-Essawi told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he had resigned his post, effective Tuesday…

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=209374

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    I find it very hard to take these diplomats seriously. Their master, Gaddafi, has been a tyrant and murderer for years and now that it is politically expedient they quit?

  179. BigCatLover
    February 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    “I read his book to find out how he managed to solve the Irish problem and was surprised to hear how much BC helped out there. At the time, I had no idea Bill had helped bring the English and Irish together.”
    _____________________

    A big rift developed between them after that- Tony took all the credit for it… and BC was rightfully pissed. Tony eventually apologized but BC was not impressed nor was he in a forgiving mood.

    However, after seeing the glowing references from Cherie and Tony last night, I imagine, the relationship has since been patched up and most likely has deepened now that Tony’c critics have been busy roasting him on the barbie.

    The DVD ‘A Special Relationship’ can be rented or it may still be available @ HBO. The actress playing Hillary was excellent and Dennis Quaid gave a convincing performance as Bill Clinton.

  180. #
    confloyd
    February 22nd, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Mrs. Smith,
    Isn’t Rhode Island kind of known for its protesting?? Yeah, I think the whole globe is pist off at the rich assholes….what you think???
    ________________________

    I don’t know about that, con. but Union Carpenters haven’t been put to work since BO was elected. Commercial building has been Bid out to non-Union Contractors. I haven’t talked to my Union contact in a couple of months.. I don’t know if he is still paying his Union dues or if he’s abandoned hope of ever going back. Fortunately, he is an ambitious guy supporting a wife and 2 little kids who has the Luck of the Irish at his back and has hardly missed a week without a paycheck.

  181. Mrs. Smith
    Thanks for the tip on the DVD. I’ll check my local library and see if they have it. The other thing that struck me in Tony Blair’s book was the size of his ego.

  182. Mrs.Smith,
    I know, its horrible all these people out of work…if the retards get to get rid of “collective bargaining” this country is done for….that’s all they “the corporate” state is waiting for to turn us in to China. This country’s greatness was founded on “collective bargaining”. Now I’m not saying they shouldn’t take a cut with the condition the economy is in, but I don’t think they should get rid of “collective bargaining”.

    Did you read what China did to the Jasmine protesters, it was a gimmick to find out who they were so they could round them up and imprison them or hang them one. Who knows its China…BTW…Walmart stock is down….everything is going to hell in a hand basket!

  183. wbboei
    Bottom line: if the unions take this step they will be cutting their own throat.
    *************************
    The unions would say if they don’t take this step they will be cutting their own throat. I plan to withhold judgement and watch how this plays out. We’ll see just how far each side is willing to go.
    ————————-
    That is what they will say. But I do not think it is true. There is a different tack they could take, one that unions in the private sector have taken when the economic outlook is dire and that is to convince their members that some concessions are necessary, create a firewall between those concessions and the interests that must be protected, make sure the burdens are equally shared among unions and management personnel, and insist upon a snap back provision when and if economic conditions improve. In other words, the smart thing to do is get out ahead of these things, behave like problemsolvers and not let management seize the initiative. When the payor is the taxpayer, they need to be mindful of the public relations aspect, and here they have not. They will get sucker punched by taking this tack. This is not Armageddon, but if there is a general strike of any duration it will turn out to be and that may be great for Obama but it is bad for their members. For now at least they are artless.

  184. A Republican state senator in Wisc. was just on Parker/Spitzer and he proposed that the unions make all the concessions that they have already agreed to make and also that their collective bargaining rights be suspended for 2 years. The governor rejected the compromise out of hand. The republican senator said that Walker has gone out on a limb and cannot or will not walk back.

  185. Great, BCL-

    Don’t forget to let me know what you think of it! 😉
    __________________

    “I don’t think they should get rid of “collective bargaining”.

    No, of course not. This is just a secretive ploy to control workers salaries, one of the primary goals of the PNAC Agreement, Newt’s Contract with America.

    Their aim is to make the Pay Scale universal throughout the New World Order. If the WI Union folds it will set a disastrous precedent reverberating throughout the country in every and ALL careers that are unionized.

  186. Governors, city councils, public service employees, and citizens in general are turning on each other, blaming one another as the cause of “excess spending;” but these attacks are missing the point. What the FCIC report details, which British-puppet President Obama has refused to acknowledge, is that this crisis was caused by the decades-long process of eliminating critical banking regulations, which separated the worthwhile functions of the economy from the speculation of financial predators, as seen especially in the deregulation of financial derivatives, and the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall. Now cities and states are bankrupt, drowning in a situation of collapsing revenue and increased demands for aid, with no hope of change in sight.
    ——————————–
    Harley is right about this piece, but there is more to the story. There was a bi partisan decision during the second term of the Reagan Administration to tilt the economy away from manufacturing and toward finance. That is where the outsourcing began. Felix Rohatyn who is an investment banker,leading democrat money man and executor of the Kennedy estate was party to this decision which was a sell out of the American People. The subsequent elimination of Glass Steegal was simply another step along that pre-determined path.

  187. “I don’t think they should get rid of “collective bargaining”.
    ———————–
    I agree. That should be on the other side of the firewall. The governors argument is that the civil service system protects the workers, and that will remain. But that deprives employees of a voice. What I see missing here is leadership on the union side. I know a guy who was with the Teamster local in Milwaukee years ago who could have resolved this thing, but when you have the White House and Trumpka trying to nationalize this dispute, that would be difficult.

  188. “The subsequent elimination of Glass Steegal was simply another step along that pre-determined path.”
    ____________________

    It was Bob Dole (R) and Trent Lott (R) who pushed Bill Clinton to help repeal Glass-Steagall. At the time, BC could not foresee how it would let loose the Investment Brokers and Hedge Fund operators to run wild with investor portfolios.

  189. Dole and Lott knew exactly what they were doing. It was eliminating language in legislated Banking guidelines that when put on Clinton’s desk,he would not Veto it. He regrets that decision to this day.

  190. If the WI Unionists walk away, we will bearing witness to total destruction and the fall of the American/Roman Empire.

    Soros will have Won-

  191. There’s a real patten going on here, the same folks that wanted Meg Whitman to win in my state are the same folks that believe the Rethug spin that all unions should be broken and the little workers should be stripped bare naked and thrown out in the snow.

    Oh whadda shock. 😉

  192. I don’t know about you, but when ever I see that WI gov. on tv, my blood boils. He looks like a younger version of Axelbutt, with hair.

  193. #
    Shadowfax
    February 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    I don’t know about you, but when ever I see that WI gov. on tv, my blood boils. He looks like a younger version of Axelbutt, with hair.
    ____________________

    I know Axelrod is Jewish but with that mustache, he looks like Hitler!

  194. https://hillaryis44regroup.wordpress.com/

    Please make a note of above. The thread “To flee or not to flee” seems to have too many posts and won’t load for me, so I’ve set up an emergency space to maintain contact (above link). We can regroup there till this problem is overcome.

    Of course, right here will work better. As long as it is available–best not to fill it or we’ll run out of space. Think before posting. Presumably lots of space at new emergency blog above.

    Gotta run or I’ll be late for work.

    This is post I just put at above link:

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    First Quick Post
    Posted on March 1, 2011 by ohanson

    Barely know what I’m doing here. This blog intended for use only if main blog goes down. I am not admin at main blog, only a new contributor. I’ll pass on control of this blog to older contributors if we need to use it.

    I’m assuming you can comment below for starters.

    My email is ohanson at hushmail dot me
    Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment | Edit
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  195. ohanson-

    I checked out the new His44 patio site,

    I think I have to register and wait for confirmation from you to post there- that is the way it’s usually done.. nes pas?

  196. Hi Mrs Smith,

    There is a new post up now. Looking quickly, I didn’t see you’ve posted in in yet.
    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2011/02/28/checkmate-at-the-end-libya-oscars-wisonsin/
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    so everything is back to normal. Wish we could say the same for our nation and the world (whatever normal is).

    I quickly set up the regroup site before I thought to come here to the old thread. I tried to post notice of the regroup site at the full thread (“To flee or not to flee”), but could not post. That’s when I got the idea to come back to this thread.

    As for the “Patio site” (I’ve never heard that term before!) nobody has to register to comment, but I had to set it (just now at my lunchtime) so comments don’t need moderation. I think it is set now, but I’ll have to check from another computer to be sure. Looks as if it is not needed now. I hope it never will be. Maybe I’ll just delete it… but I’ll wait a bit. I like the idea of a fallback plan, but am not enamored with the idea of me the newcomer being the one to cobble it together. It was just for temporary communication and regrouping.

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