Hillary Clinton Strikes Back At Obama And Iran

Any doubts about the accuracy of our many reports (list of links HERE) on the secret and sometimes not so secret war by Barack Obama against Hillary Clinton should have been completely dispelled this week. Proof emerged that last week John Kerry was enlisted by Barack Obama to specifically target and undermine, on a nationally broadcast (Meet The Press) television show, the Secretary of State.

The ostensible issue for the combat was the overthrow of Mubarak in Egypt. Hillary knew that the situation in Egypt was not as simple as many wanted to believe. For all the Hope and Change, Hillary knew things could turn ugly very quickly and that there was a danger of going from the frying pan into the fire. The Iron Veil threatened to fall.

Today in Egypt the same military that has been in charge since the 1950s is still in charge. The people of Egypt are less secure in their homes than they have ever been. We now know that at the height of the protests a brutal sexual assault (“Jew! Jew!” was also heard) occurred against a woman CBS correspondent.

She was surrounded in the same way Israel is surrounded. She was rescued by women and the Egyptian military. The assault against a prominent woman correspondent was only mildly noted at the White House. For some on the left, it was all a joke to be laughed about.

As events progressed the unrest continues to spread. This week the not so secret war against Hillary Clinton also continued to spread. Hillary Clinton struck back.

On Tuesday, Hillary Clinton delivered an important speech on internet freedom. The speech was widely advertised and expected to generate lots of news. Barack Obama in a brazen attempt to marginalize Hillary Clinton chose that day to hold a rare press conference.

By Wednesday, John Kerry was in Pakistan in an attempt to further marginalize Hillary Clinton:

“Senator John Kerry, the former US presidential candidate, is holding high-level meetings in Pakistan in an attempt to defuse a diplomatic crisis involving a US embassy worker who shot dead two Pakistanis last month.”

A United States embassy worker is under arrest in Pakistan. One would expect that the ultimate authority for the embassy, the United States Secretary of State, would be the one to speak out. But no, John Kerry was on the job in Pakistan to help Barack Obama further undermine Hillary Clinton.

All the attempts to undermine if not destroy Hillary Clinton were futile. This smart woman knows she is under attack and she knows how to fight back. Recently she agreed to be interviewed by glamor magazine Harper’s Bazaar. In the interview it was noted how popular Hillary Clinton is and the misogyny and sexism which drive many of the attacks against her:

“So often vilified during her time as first lady of the United States, Clinton is now often cited as the country’s most admired woman. [snip]

She seems resigned to gender being an issue in politics. “Being a serious candidate for president as a woman brought out all the stuff that still exists about that,” she says. “Some of it was personal, some of it was gender based, and you kind of accept it. I think that if you live long enough, you realize that so much of what happens in life is out of your control, but how you respond to it is in your control. That’s what I try to remember.”

If Harper’s Bazaar was not enough, Hillary also was featured on CNN. In a long article, Hillary explained herself on many issues including Egypt:

“On one show after another, she gave them the new mantra — the U.S. wanted an “orderly transition.” It was a carefully crafted phrase which acknowledged the importance of moving to democracy in Egypt, but took into account the need to avoid chaos and a power vacuum that could bring to power a radical Islamist movement, as it did during the 1979 Iranian revolution.

The interviews were done, but Clinton’s day was just starting.”

The article ignored the Obama ordered attack by John Kerry on Meet The Press. But for all the pro-Obama tilt in the article what was significant was that Hillary was utilizing her ability to access Big Media – that is what Obama and his henchmen fear the most.

The secret and not so secret war against Hillary Clinton by Barack Obama is important. This is not a personality driven war. Barack Obama wants to commit boobery and/or treachery on a world wide stage and that is dangerous. The latest danger is the proposed outrage at the United Nations by Obama lackey Susan Rice:

In major reversal, U.S. agrees to rebuke Israel in Security Council

The U.S. has informed Arab governments that it will support a U.N. Security Council statement reaffirming that the 15-nation body “does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity,” a move aimed at avoiding the prospect of having to veto a stronger Palestinian resolution calling the settlements illegal. [snip]

Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, outlined the new U.S. offer in a closed door meeting on Tuesday with the Arab Group, a bloc of Arab countries from North Africa and the Middle East.”

Weakness and a betrayal of allies is not the proper role for the United States. Obama cannot be trusted by friend nor foe. From the outset Susan Rice was stationed at the U.N. and given cabinet status by Obama in order to undermine Hillary Clinton and now Susan Rice is doing her real job.

Susan Rice and Barack Obama will help the enemies of Israel instead of concentrating on the real enemies of peace. The problem is not Israel or settlements even though very few are stating this simple fact.

Hillary Clinton is doing what she can, in the sub rosa war, to resist Susan Rice and Barack Obama’s attacks on Israel:

“US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Thursday that UN Security Council resolutions are “not the right vehicle” for forging ahead towards a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

“Our focus is on doing what is best to advance negotiations between the parties that will lead to a two-state solution,” she told reporters after a closed-door briefing with senators covering unrest throughout the Middle East.

“And we have consistently — over many years — said that the United Nations Security Council, and resolutions that would come before the Security Council, are not the right vehicle to advance that goal,” said Clinton.”

It was on Iran that Hillary exhibited the greatest skill. Hillary not only beat up on Iran, she used Iran to beat up on Obama – all in a sub rosa war that few notice let alone dare mention.

Hillary knew that it was American allies (most if not all corrupt) in the Middle East that have been under attack. America’s enemies appeared safe from demonstrations. So Hillary played a little smart power politics and decided to turn the tables. Hillary went after Iran as the corrupt, hypocrites they are. By going after Iran she also forced Obama to criticize an American enemy (something he is always loathe to do).

After a discussion with Speaker Boehner, in which she argued for funding for the State Department, Hillary merged the topic of funding with the topic of Iran:

“QUESTION: Thank you, Madam Secretary. When you were First Lady 16 years ago, we had a Republican Congress that imposed some very deep cuts, particularly in the diplomacy and foreign aid sectors. Is this reminiscent of that? And did you communicate that to the Speaker in your meeting today?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think that what we learned – and certainly I think the lessons from the ‘90s are very important today – is that we cannot recede from our presence anywhere in the world. What we’re living through is a historic period where all kinds of changes – some of them in support of American values and some of them directly opposed to American values – are occurring. And I think it’s important not to have to keep learning those lessons. [snip]

QUESTION: Madam Secretary, we’re receiving reports – NBC News is receiving reports there’s thousands in the streets all around Iran right now, the opposition party headquarters is possibly under siege. There are thousands of protestors. Internet lines are being jammed. The phone lines are being jammed. Can you comment on the situation in Iran, and what’s your message to the Iranians in the streets tonight?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first, let me very clearly and directly support the aspirations of the people who are in the streets in Iran today. All through the crisis in Egypt, we had three very consistent messages: We were against violence, and we stated it often and we communicated it directly to Egyptian authorities. Secondly, we supported the universal human rights of the Egyptian people. And third, we stood for political change that would result in positive outcomes that would give the Egyptian people a better economic and political future.

We believe the same for Iran. We are against violence, and we would call to account the Iranian Government that is, once again, using its security forces and resorting to violence to prevent the free expression of ideas from their own people. Secondly, we support the universal human rights of the Iranian people. They deserve to have the same rights that they saw being played out in Egypt and that are part of their own birthright. And thirdly, we think that there needs to be a commitment to open up the political system in Iran, to hear the voices of the opposition and civil society.

And I would add that what we see happening in Iran today is a testament to the courage of the Iranian people and an indictment of the hypocrisy of the Iranian regime, a regime which over the last three weeks has constantly hailed what went on in Egypt, and now, when given the opportunity to afford their people the same rights as they called for on behalf of the Egyptian people, once again illustrate their true nature. So our message has been consistent and it remains the same, and we wish the opposition and the brave people in the streets across cities in Iran the same opportunity that they saw their Egyptian counterparts seize in the last week.”

Hillary Clinton reference a “civil society” to a theocratic power. Hillary called out Iran on its hypocrisy on freedom for Egyptians but the Iron Veil for its own people. Hillary spoke out on behalf of “universal human rights” not as a scold but as a weapon on behalf of American interests and our core values to beat up on the Iranian theocrats.

Hillary spoke up repeatedly for the demonstrators in the streets of Iran. Hillary did not restrict herself to one time comments. Hillary almost grabbed the flags on the Arab street and called for revolutionary change by herself:

“U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised increased support today to civil society activists fighting repressive governments around the world.

Pointing to the uprisings in Egypt and other Arab nations, Clinton said support for non-governmental civil society groups will play a key role in advancing democratic reforms.

If we’re going to take advantage of this historic moment, we have to tap the expertise, experience and energy of civil society,” Clinton said as she convened the inaugural Strategic Dialogue with Civil Society at the State Department, bringing together representatives from groups in more than 20 nations.”

Is it not amazing that such a meeting was convened at such a remarkable moment by such a remarkable woman? Not really. It’s Hillary:

“The U.S., she said, will double its financial support to protect civil society groups, though she offered no specifics.

A fund managed by the U.S. Agency for International Development to protect civil society groups from efforts by governments to censor or otherwise restrict their work will be increased to about $3.4 million, from $1.5 million, said Tomicah Tillemann, a senior adviser, in a later briefing. [snip]

Along with the participants at the State Department, Clinton said, thousands were participating in today’s forum from 50 embassies and through live online chats conducted in Arabic, Russian and Spanish.”

Hillary and the State Department are keeping their eyes and axes on Iran:

“Another focus, he said, will be on supporting civil groups in Iran.
“Iran historically has had some of the strongest civil society in the Middle East, and we are eager to do what we can to strengthen that civil society,” Tillemann said. “We think it’s very unfortunate the regime has turned its back on that rich tradition.”

Laura Rozen took the Obama side on criticism of Iran:

“Obama offers cautious support on Iran

It’s advice Obama largely seems to have heeded in his comments on the Iran protests in his news conference today, the Washington Post reports:

In his news conference, Obama continued to focus on the demonstrations underway and not on his preferred outcome, a balance he also maintained during the 18-day uprising in Egypt. […]

Obama’s caution stems from the same fear that appeared to guide his response in June 2009: that a clear U.S. call for regime change in Iran would allow President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to cast the protest movement as a creation of Western governments and Israel.

“Each country is different, each country has its own traditions, and America can’t dictate what happens in these societies,” Obama said, adding that his administration would lend “moral support to those seeking better lives.” […]

Obama on Tuesday endorsed the Iranian demonstrators’ right to protest against their government without explicitly aligning the United States with their goals.

“My hope and expectation is that we’re going to continue to see the people of Iran have the courage to be able to express their yearning for greater freedoms and a more representative government, understanding that America cannot ultimately dictate what happens inside of Iran any more than it could inside of Egypt,” he said.

Hillary Clinton, by contrast, more full-throatedly backed Iran’s protesters in remarks yesterday, saying she “clearly and directly supports the aspirations” of the demonstrators — perhaps part of an orchestrated good cop/bad cop routine.”

It was not a “good cop/bad cop routine”. Hillary was defending American interests by supporting demonstrators in the streets of theocratic Iran. There is almost no downside in strongly supporting those against the Iranian regime. Obama however appears to prefer to attack America’s friends and coddle its enemies. That’s a tough and ugly thing to say but it is hard to dispute. We’re not the only ones who have noticed this. The Washington Post has noticed too:

“President Obama cautiously criticized the Iranian government Tuesday for carrying out a deadly crackdown on street demonstrations, as hard-line legislators in Tehran called for the execution of several prominent opposition leaders.”

What was the Obama verbiage against the theocratic killers of their own people?

“Obama’s careful formulation – calling on the government to allow protesters to express their grievances but stopping short of calling for a change in leadership – highlighted the sharp differences between the political dynamic that his administration faces in Iran and the one that shaped the recent revolt in Egypt.

In Egypt, Obama had to balance the United States’ long-standing support for a secular ally against the reality that popular backing for President Hosni Mubarak had all but evaporated. But in Iran, Obama confronts an Islamist regime hostile to U.S. interests and eager to turn any opposition movement into a proxy for the United States and Israel.”

The Iranian theocrats will always blame the Jews or the Americans or the Zionists or Martians for their troubles. What is needed in Iran is support for the demonstrators and to let them know they are not alone and that America will call attention to their struggle. But for Obama, it’s coddle the enemy, be cautious in denouncing the foe:

“Earlier in the day, scores of Iranian lawmakers led a demonstration on the floor of parliament, calling for the execution of Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, who have been under house arrest for some time. In a statement, 221 members of parliament said: “We believe the people have lost their patience and demand capital punishment.”

The threat provided an ominous turn to the Iranian unrest, which Obama had yet to comment on publicly until his Tuesday news conference.”

When it comes to America’s friends, Obama is quick to denounce and undermine:

In the days before the Egyptian turmoil reached its climax, Obama aligned himself with the demonstrators’ demand for a new government. With Iran, he has not been so bold.

His call for Iran’s government to allow peaceful protest echoed the one he made after the opposition Green Movement emerged on Tehran’s streets in June 2009 following a disputed presidential election, a response many conservatives criticized as tepid. [snip]

“What’s been different is the Iranian government’s response, which is to shoot people and beat people and arrest people.”

This defies logic. If a government does not kill people or beat them then they get treated with contempt and attacks by Obama. If a government kills people or beats them they they get treated with respect and kid gloves by Obama. Something is very wrong with this. What is wrong is Obama. The problem is Obama.

The problem is Obama. The solution is Hillary.

The secret and not so secret fight will continue.

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239 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton Strikes Back At Obama And Iran

  1. Great post Admin, and I agree that Hillary has been fighting back, and when she speaks clearly, not hiding her intentions nor snow flocking the meaning of her words, it leaves Barry running to try and give a ‘bigger and better’ speech to undermine her.

    So far, he is doing a very poor job at it, other leaders don’t fall for the dog and pony show either.

    Hillary is the only leader that doesn’t disappoint me with her actions.

  2. JanH
    That song is too sad for me, it brings back memories of her laying down her sword in Denver…I think of Hillary as much more aggressive now, and I love that she is spreading her wings and taking care of business.

    Go Hillary, Go get um girl!!!!!

  3. Something is very wrong with this. What is wrong is Obama. The problem is Obama.

    —————-

    Admin: Something is sooooo weird about this…I wish I could figure it out….but I bet you really know, but its unprintable at this time…
    It just gets weirder everyday!
    Great analysis!

  4. This is such a shame…just when we need her the most they put in this nincompoop! I think the whole thing was planned!

  5. admin:

    Great post, thanks-

    Tell Hillary we are behind her 110%.

    We are watching every move Obama makes and reporting it here just in case.. Susan Rice is a boob as well- His harem (Jarret-Rice and Power) of ner do-wells all have something in common, they are playing with a Cobra that knows only two things, sleep or strike. Heads will roll when he runs out of scape goats.

  6. Please tell Hillary we are behind her 110%.

    We are watching every move Obama makes and reporting it here just in case.. Susan Rice is a boob as well- His harem (Jarret-Rice and Power) of ner do-wells all have something in common, they are playing with a Cobra that knows only two things, sleep or strike. Heads will roll when he runs out of scape goats.

    Great post admin-

  7. Shadowfax
    February 17th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    JanH
    That song is too sad for me
    ————
    It is sad, but it also reminds me of how she just kept going when the media and dims came after her. I don’t see it as her giving up. I see it as her living to fight again.

  8. The full story…US catching up with Mideast unrest

    Jane Cowan reported this story on Friday, February 18, 2011

    TANYA NOLAN: The upheaval spreading across the Middle East presents a growing diplomatic quandary for the United States.

    Accused of being caught off-guard by the Egyptian uprising the Obama administration is now trying to negotiate the simultaneous outbreaks of violence across the region.

    North America correspondent Jane Cowan reports.

    JANE COWAN: It’s a road the US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has been down before – trying to maintain relationships with friendly governments on the one hand.

    HILLARY CLINTON: Bahrain is a friend and an ally.

    JANE COWAN: While supporting nascent democracy on the other.

    HILLARY CLINTON: We call on restraint from the government.

    JANE COWAN: The stakes are high. The US relies on cooperative Arab regimes in the fight to root out Al Qaida, to secure access to oil reserves and as strategic bases for its military.

    But questions are being asked about America’s handling of its allies in the Middle East.

    At the outset of the Egyptian uprising Hillary Clinton assessed Hosni Mubarak’s regime as “stable”. And just two months ago in December she was lauding Bahrain as a “model partner” and saying how impressed she was by the government’s commitment to walk a democratic path.

    HILLARY CLINTON: We stand very strongly behind you and I hope to come back to Bahrain many times.

    JANE COWAN: The criticism of the Obama administration’s strategy has only become more strident since revelations that the US president Barack Obama ordered his advisers back in August last year to produce a secret report on unrest in the Arab world – one that’s understood to have concluded that countries from Bahrain to Yemen were ripe for popular revolt unless there was widespread political change.

    According to the New York Times the report identified four likely flashpoints described as one country trying to move toward change, another that had resisted any change and two with deep strategic ties to the US as well as religious tensions – descriptions that suggest the countries were Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain and Yemen.

    The report today made tough going for press secretaries charged with explaining the Obama administration’s approach.

    At the State Department briefing spokesman Mark Toner defended Hillary Clinton’s handling of first Egypt and now Bahrain.

    REPORTER: Was she not one of those who had this report circulated to her?

    MARK TONER: And you also heard her in Doha speak quite eloquently and forcefully about the need for governments across the region to address their young people’s rather legitimate concerns for political reform, for social reform, for economic opportunity. And so she was quite clear in her message to the region.

    REPORTER: It seems she misread both situations, didn’t she?

    MARK TONER: I’m sorry both situations, Egypt and Bahrain?

    REPORTER: Mhmm.

    MARK TONER: Again I would just say go back to her message couldn’t have been clearer in Doha.

    JANE COWAN: At the White House Barack Obama’s spokesman Jay Carney also came under pressure.

    REPORTER 2: If you’re doing all these preps why are you still struggling here?

    JAY CARNEY: Well, I, I, Ed I definitely do not accept the idea that we’re struggling.

    JANE COWAN: Jim Phillips is a Middle East analyst at the conservative Washington think tank the Heritage Foundation.

    JIM PHILLIPS: I think really it shows a lack of experience in foreign policy especially the Middle East.

    JANE COWAN: What does this mean then for the Obama administration’s ability to manage a difficult region that’s only getting more difficult?

    JIM PHILLIPS: Well hopefully they’re learning on the fly. I think the administration has been getting more realistic.

    Unfortunately its first campaign for Israeli/Palestinian negotiations really broke up on the shoals of the settlement issue which was pretty predictable.

    But hopefully he will pull back and look for incremental progress on these type of issues rather than huge, dramatic advances that would require a lot of input from a lot of countries because in the Middle East that’s like herding cats. It’s very difficult.

    JANE COWAN: And not getting any easier.

    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3142688.htm

  9. Sorry, wrong number:

    http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=208687

    Former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak refused to respond to telephone calls from US President Barack Obama becase he still felt offended by Obama’s statement in which he called on Mubarak “to step down immediately,” London-based Arabic language daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi reported on Thursday.

    Mubarak, still living in “presidential style” in Sharm el-Sheikh, according to the report, refused an invitation from Saudi King Abdullah to come to the kingdom, telling him he preferred to die on Egyptian soil.

    The report said that it was not clear if Mubarak had been in contact with Egypt’s new military rulers through his former deputy Omar Suleiman.

  10. JanH
    I don’t see it as her giving up.
    ——
    I didn’t take it that way either, just to see the video of when she cried and them media wanted to know if it was acting on her part………all of it was too darn sad for me at the time. It took me a long time to feel good for Hillary and now I really enjoy watching all the videos of her, almost on a daily basis.

    I remember some thinking Barry would want her on the supreme court, to get her out of the public view…and that would have been torture to not see her any more.

  11. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/Criticism_on_Israel_move_builds_on_Hill.html?showall

    Rep. Steve Rothman of New Jersey, a pretty loyal White House ally, said in a statement today that “any failure to stand with Israel during these difficult times in the Middle East will only encourage the enemies of America and Israel.”

    And Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley and Rep. Joe Walsh, a Republican, are currently circulating a letter to colleagues describing the offer of a statement criticizing settlements as “unprecedented” and “a disconcerting change in U.S. foreign policy.” [snip]

    Reps. Eric Cantor and Steny Hoyer also put out a statement blasting the Palestinian-backed resolution, though it is silent on the statement offer:

    Instead of negotiating directly with Israel to achieve a peaceful solution to the conflict, Palestinian leaders continue to seek to circumvent the negotiating process by advocating anti-Israel measures at the U.N. Security Council, U.N. General Assembly, and U.N. Human Rights Council. The U.S. should not condone or reward this behavior by supporting their resolutions. We strongly urge the Administration to veto this resolution and to uphold our longstanding commitment to Israel’s security.

    But the U.N mess — a waste of a controversy, as the Palestinians rejected it — along with the deep freeze in relations between Netanyahu and Obama, and fears of what will happen in Egypt have all contributed to a deep discomfort in pro-Israel circles.

    “People are taking the weakness on display yesterday as a symbol that previous administration public and private assurances that they will stand by Israel at the UN are not solid,” said one pro-Israel insider. “That’s why the statements you are seeing have moved beyond the shocking pandering of yesterday to the more critical question of what else is up for grabs with this administration.”

  12. admin
    February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    It’s so obvious Obama has no recollection of the past history between the US and Israel and the relationship that has gone on without a breach for over 60 yrs. When Soros lays down his orders to Obama, Obama just plunges in head-first without giving it a second thought of what it will take to accomplish the task and has no plan B if plan A fails. (good for us):lol:

    a thumbnail summary of the US relationship w/ Israel:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations

  13. “As the navel is set in the centre of the human body,
    so is the land of Israel the navel of the world…
    situated in the centre of the world,
    and Jerusalem in the centre of the land of Israel,
    and the sanctuary in the centre of Jerusalem,
    and the holy place in the centre of the sanctuary,
    and the ark in the centre of the holy place,
    and the foundation stone before the holy place,
    because from it the world was founded.”

    Midrash Tanchuma, Qedoshim.

  14. I cant believe the Dem caucus has done a runner in Wisconsin, the cops are out hunting for them.
    *******************
    You have a short memory. This same thing happened in Texas about 1 1/2 years ago. Much ado about nothing in the end. The Dem Senators in Wisc fleeing the Senate is a delaying tactic to slow down the unamerican train wreck taking place in Wisconsin. [….] the people are demonstrating outside the statehouse in the tens of thousands against the bill.

    ==================

    Wasn’t the Dems’ ‘runner’ in Texas to prevent re-districting? Nice to see them acting on principle in WI for a change.

  15. “That’s why the statements you are seeing have moved beyond the shocking pandering of yesterday to the more critical question of what else is up for grabs with this administration.”

    ——————-

    Exactly.

  16. People are taking the weakness on display yesterday as a symbol that previous administration public and private assurances that they will stand by Israel at the UN are not solid,” said one pro-Israel insider. “That’s why the statements you are seeing have moved beyond the shocking pandering of yesterday to the more critical question of what else is up for grabs with this administration.”
    ————————
    Fair enough. But weakness alone does not explain what is going on. Obama has a clear and unambiguous bias against Christians and Jews, and a clear and unambiguous bias in favor of Muslims. It is pervasive.- Time and time and time again we see it in domestic affairs and international relations. It is who he is. Furthermore, the advisors he relies on–Power, Rice and Jarrett share that bias. Politico fails to to acknowledge the bias and in failing to do so fails to tell the whole truth. The closer they come to the truth, the more powerful people begin to feel uncomfortable. But it cannot be helped. They know they were wrong, and so do their colleagues.

  17. That’s why the statements you are seeing have moved beyond the shocking pandering of yesterday to the more critical question of what else is up for grabs with this administration.
    ————————
    The answer to that question is short and sweet: everything and everyone is up for grabs–in order to get him a second term. I went to the University Bookstore tonight. There I found sixteen (16) books on Obama besides the autobiographies which Ayers wrote. Sixteen (16). And every single one of them dealt with the campaign. Not one of them had a word to say about governing. The authors ranged from Jonathan Altar–that reject from a Men’s Hair Club commercial to Richard Werewolf lately of MSNBC. The Woodward book was nowhere to be seen and the fiction by Halperin has yet to be written. What good is is to win a campaign if you cannot govern–or your pathetic attempts to govern are crowned with no conspicuous success, only failure and kicking the can down the road. His utter incompetence condemns millions of Americans to a life of poverty. It did not have to be this way.

  18. HILLARY CLINTON: Bahrain is a friend and an ally.

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    With friends like these … we’ll wake up with fleas.

  19. WIN….Obama did NOT win the nomination…it was given to him just like the Nobel prize was….so did they know then that all this unrest was going to take place….so many coincidences….just too many for my liking!

    Fake election, by a fake candidate, given a fake nobel prize for fake peace…WHY??? WHO??? He isn’t governing, he faking that too!

    Obama the fraudulent Resident!

  20. Moon,
    Glad they are cutting off some of those Czars…I wonder how much he pays them…of coarse they’ll stay on just to keep things screwed up!

  21. admin: please post when you have a minute, thanks-

    Obama destroying US Economy for years to come:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WdcQGJF_jmY

    Sen. Jeff Sessions: “…Under your budget, the interest increases each year. It was $187 billion in 2009, under your proposal it increases to $844 billion”

    Treasury Tim Geithner: “Senator, absolutely, it is an excessively high interest burden, it’s unsustainable”

    Sessions: “Well it’s your plan. That’s the plan the President submitted.”

    Geithner: “You’re absolutely right that with the president’s plan, even if Congress were to enact it, and even if Congress were to hold to it and reduce those deficits to three percent of GDP over the next five years, we would still be left with a very large interest burden and unsustainable obligations over time”

    Sessions: “It’s not acceptable. I’m sorry, but that’s not a plan for winning the future, that’s a plan for losing the future…”

  22. Wbboei: Fair enough. But weakness alone does not explain what is going on.
    Yesterday you named the term “disappointed” as the dirty garment for betrayal that it is, today you do the same thing for the label of “weakness”.
    It is what we need, to have those more harmless labels ripped out of the spinners hands.

    Thank you.

  23. Who is Christian Witon, Former Advisor Under Sec. of State for Deomcracy???

    Any day now FOX, CNN, etc are going to be bringing on some dude to twist something Hillary said back in third grade and explain with authority that it was a weak contradictory statement.

    I guess there is an endless supply of these little weeneys.

  24. Southern Born

    OMG- This is an agency run by Soros. Probably designed to send a wrong or confusing message as a press report from Hillary-

    I hope she is aware of this and admin can contact her to let her know, just in case- The title of this agency is NO coincidence and could be used if they create a contradictory news buzz to make her look incompetent, especially now with Obama’s intention of harassing her with what is going on in the ME.

    Here is the link:

    http://www.redstate.com/republican_michigander/2010/04/21/dont-let-soros-and-the-secretary-of-state-project-take-over-your-state/

  25. She is between a rock and a hard place.

    Clinton Silent on U.S. Plan to Join U.N. Condemnation of Israel

    Published February 17, 2011

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday would neither confirm nor deny whether the U.S. will join in a U.N. condemnation of Israel that gets around the tricky business of breaking from U.S. practice of vetoing resolutions against the Mideast ally.

    The end-run around the Security Council’s resolution process would be in the form of a non-binding U.N. Security Council presidential statement that condemns Israel for continuing to build settlements in East Jerusalem, which the Palestinians want to claim as a future capital.

    Presidential statements have repeatedly been used by the Security Council to criticize Israel as it negotiates with Palestinians on a two-state solution. Brazil is serving as president of the council for the month of February.

    Speaking Thursday on Capitol Hill, Clinton said “a lot of rumors” are flying around, but she wouldn’t get into specifics about a statement, which could follow Friday’s scheduled vote at the international body.

    But Clinton also didn’t bat down the speculation.

    “Our focus on doing what is best to advance negotiations between parties that will lead to a two-state solution. And we have consistently said that the U.N. Security Council and resolutions that would come before the Security Council are not the right vehicle to advance that goal,” she said.

    “So we’re working with our partners in the Security Council, with our partners in the region to find a consensus way forward that is consistent with our overall approach,” Clinton added.

    Language of a presidential statement would likely be similar to a proposed resolution offered to the council by the Palestinians. It expresses the Security Council’s “strong opposition to any unilateral actions by any party, which cannot prejudge the outcome of negotiations and will not be recognized by the international community, and reaffirms, that it does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity, which is a serious obstacle to the peace process.”

    President Obama reportedly called Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday to persuade the Palestinians to withdraw the resolution. Israeli press said that the request fell on deaf ears.

    Foreign Policy magazine was first to report that U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice is considering signing on to the presidential statement as a means to prevent the resolution’s harshly worded condemnation. Rice cast the move as a compromise measure, but it would still be a sharp departure from decades of U.S. policy on Israel.

    U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and five other senior members of Congress from both sides of the aisle wrote President Obama last month to urge the administration to veto the resolution on Israel and hold Palestinian leadership accountable for its actions that undermine opportunities for peace and security.

    Ros-Lehtinen said Thursday that she had not received a response, but called support for the presidential statement “a major concession to enemies of the Jewish state and other free democracies. It telegraphs that the U.S. can be bullied into abandoning critical democratic allies and core U.S. principles.”

    “Offering to criticize our closest ally at the U.N. isn’t leadership, it’s unacceptable,” she said. “Pretending that criticism of Israel is OK if it comes in a ‘presidential statement’ instead of a resolution isn’t leadership, it’s unacceptable. Twisting and turning and tying yourself in knots to avoid using our veto to defend our allies and interests isn’t leadership, it’s unacceptable.”

    House Democratic and Republican Party second-in-commands, Reps. Eric Cantor, R-Va., and Steny Hoyer, D-Md., both of whom were signatories the Ros-Lehtinen letter to the president, also issued a statement saying Palestinian leaders are playing games by continuing “to seek to circumvent the negotiating process by advocating anti-Israel measures at the U.N. Security Council, U.N. General Assembly and U.N. Human Rights Council. The U.S. should not condone or reward this behavior by supporting their resolutions.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/17/clinton-silent-plan-join-condemnation-israel/

  26. Mrs. Smith
    February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
    The link is to an article about the Democrat sec of state in states, not in the federal govt. and is kind of old news now that the 2010 election is over. It spends a lot of time on Jennifer Brunner of Ohio who was the dem sec of state in Ohio in 2008 and who was defeated in her run for the Senate in 2010. Ohio now has a repub sec of state. This trend to put your man or woman in the sec of state position so they can influence elections, has been a trend practiced by both parties since about 2000. Luckily, it seems to be a stepping stone to move up in the party, so they only serve one term and run for a bigger office. Keeps the turnover in the office constant. And I’m happy to report that in Ohio after the sec of state pulls outrageous election shenigans, they are soundly defeated in their run for the next elective position.

  27. BigCatLover
    February 18th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    What I’m saying is Soros is going to use a bastardized version of the title associating Hillary’s name with it.

  28. Mrs.Smith,
    Thanks the recipe sounds easy and good.

    I am going to have to turn off Fox…I am sick of them….WE bailed out all these business’s…they got welfare off us and now they want to stop ours….this is total bullshit!

    I hate these rethugs!

  29. TD,
    Thanks for posting the Perry abstinence works bullshit….well another thing I love about rethugs…they would rather not give birth control and then they want all folks off welfare…guess that doesn’t work. It seems the poorer you are the more sex you have and more often with lots of difference people….It’s what people do who have nothing else to look forward too.

    Look at India…lots of poor people and lots of people…these rethugs are stupid and of coarse the ultra left is even more ignorant. The center, a nice balanced out look on life, money, and politics….that’s what I like.

    It must be that Hillary is going to run, why else would they berate her daily on FOx now???

  30. I just don’t know how much longer I can listen to all these lies on TV….and not stay down in the dumps….

    Got to go to town! Talk to you guys later!

  31. (snip)
    “In an extraordinary move, the regime has freed 110 members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Gaddafi banned this organisation after it attempted to assassinate him in 1996. It is thought to have worked with the British intelligence agency MI6. Since September 11, 2001, Gaddafi has used his campaign against this group to get closer to Washington. Head of Libyan external security Abu Kusa recently identified exiled members in the US who it was claimed posed a security threat to America.

    With mass protests breaking out across the country as the popular uprising that began in Tunisia only weeks ago spreads across the region, Gaddafi has turned to his once bitter opponents for support. Just as the Muslim Brotherhood has been brought into the fold in Egypt, so the LIFG has been found to pose less of a threat to the regime than the enraged masses.

    Supporters of the current protests are being rounded up and detained while the Islamists are being released.”
    (snip)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/feb2011/liby-f18.shtml

    I think that all of the breathless excitement from commentators about freedom and democracy spreading across North Africa and the ME will be a “little” disappointed when the results look more like Iran.

  32. Just like Henry’s song he often posts about Hillary, this can never be said too many times:

    (confloyd)

    WIN….Obama did NOT win the nomination…it was given to him just like the Nobel prize was….

    Fake election, by a fake candidate, given a fake nobel prize for fake peace…WHY??? WHO??? He isn’t governing, he faking that too!

    Obama the fraudulent Resident!

  33. Hillary Clinton to urge Taliban to reject al-Qaeda

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will say on Friday that Taliban fighters in Afghanistan face a stark choice between war and peace, as US pressure mounts on them.

    “They cannot defeat us. And they cannot escape this choice,” Mrs Clinton will say in a speech in New York.

    The US plans to begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan this summer, with full withdrawal expected by 2014.

    Currently, the US has about 78,000 troops there.

    Mrs Clinton is also expected to announce that retired diplomat Marc Grossman will replace the late Richard Holbrooke as chief US envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    ‘Wrong choice’

    Speaking at the Asia Society research organisation, Mrs Clinton is to reiterate US’s three-track strategy in Afghanistan: a military offensive against al-Qaeda and the Taliban; a civilian-led effort to strengthen the Afghan and Pakistani governments, economies and civil societies; and a diplomatic effort to end the Afghan war.

    She will say the US aims to bolster an Afghan-led effort to split the Taliban from its al-Qaeda allies and reconcile those willing to renounce violence with the Kabul government.

    “In 2001, after 9/11, the Taliban chose to defy the international community and protect al-Qaeda,” she is to say, according to excerpts of the speech released on Friday.

    “That was the wrong choice, and they have paid a heavy price. Today, the escalating pressure of our military campaign is sharpening a similar decision for the Taliban: break ties with al-Qaeda, give up your arms, and abide by the Afghan constitution and you can rejoin Afghan society; refuse and you will continue to face the consequences of being tied to al-Qaeda as an enemy of the international community.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12508074

  34. BREAKING: Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) to announce his retirement later today, source says.

    Oooh unexpected.

  35. On Wisconsin and public sector unions in general, I agree with FDR:

    All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.

    Govt workers are an arm of the govt, which is accountable to the people. If the people, via their elected officials, want to make decisions about the pay and benefits that will accrue to the govt itself, then I don’t see that as anti-labor. I see it as democracy in action. In short, I don’t view public sector unions as the same animal as labor unions. Not at all.

  36. “I can think of no more damaging indictment of the Obama Administration’s strategic thinking than this: it never once considered a scenario in which Mubarak faced a popular revolt. Yet the very essence of rigorous strategic thinking is to devise such a scenario, and to think through the best responses to them, preferably two or three moves ahead of actual or potential adversaries. It is only by ranking priorities and gaming scenarios–that a coherent foreign policy can be made. . . All Obama and his NSC team have done is draft touchy feely speeches like the one he delivered in Cairo early in his presidency. These were his words back in June 2009:

    America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap and share common principles–principles of JUSTICE and progress; TOLERANCE and the DIGNITY of all human beings. (My Note: yes Messiah Sharia law is well known for those virtues . . . )

    Those lines will come back to haunt Obama if, as cannot be ruled out, the ultimate beneficiary of his BUNGLING in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood, which remains by far the best organized opposition force in the country–and wholly committed to the restoration of the caliphate and the strict application of Sharia.

    Grand strategy is all about the necessity of choice. Today it means choosing between a daunting list of objectives: to resist the spread of radical Islam, to limit Iran’s ambition to become dominant in the Middle East, to contain the rise of China as a economic rival, to guard against a Russian reconquista of Eastern Europe–and so on.

    The defining characteristic of Obama’s foreign policy has been not just a failure to prioritize but also a failure to recognize the need to do so. A succession of speeches saying, in essence, I am not George W Bush is no substitute for strategy.

    Bismark knew how to choose. He understood that riding the nationalist wave would enable Prussia to become the dominant force in Germany, but thereafter the number one objective must be to keep France and Russia from uniting against his First Reich. When asked for his opinion about colonizing Africa, Bismark famously replied: My map of Africa lies in Europe. Here lies Russia and here lies France and we are in the middle. That is my map of Africa.

    Tragically, no one knows where Obama’s map of the Middle East is. At best it is in the heartland states of America where the fate of his presidency will be decided next year, just a Jimmy Carter’s was in 1980.

    At worst, Obama has no map at all . . .——Nail Ferguson: Egypt: How Obama Blew It (Newsweek Magazine 2/21/11.

    ———————-
    This is of course the truth. The question is how much of this does the clueless bastard who drives around with Obama bumper stickers on his car understand–will ever understand? And how much of it will the rest of America who are too busy with their busy busy busy little lives to care about what is happening the their country? Will they make their decision at the voting booth based on an understanding of his job performance or lack thereof? Or will they make their decision based on his canned Hollywood poses (like the hand in the suit pocket slight tilt flap up–which was Kennedy but before Kennedy Astaire, or the canned pictures of his two children hiding under his desk while he takes a phone call with that casual Astaire look which again is the mirror image of a Kennedy pose in life magazine. He may not be able to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the bottom side, but he is so likeable that I have just got to vote for him. Besides, he is black, and that proves what a saint I am to vote for him. Mind rot.

  37. CHICAGO (AP) — Democrats who fled Wisconsin to block a vote on a sweeping anti-union bill could stay in hiding for days or even weeks.

    Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach spoke to The Associated Press at a Chicago hotel on Friday.

    …………………………

    Firstly who’s paying for this jaunt and second they need to go back and do the job they are paid to do and fight for their beliefs, not hide out in some hotel room.

  38. The media is all over the place about this apparent/non-apparent heckler/ex-cia person who got thrown out from Hillary’s speech on the internet.

    They are complaining that he was treated brutally and some group is asking for Hillary to apologize.

  39. Egypt to Let Iran Warships Use Canal on Way to Syria

    By Mariam Fam and Benjamin Harvey – Feb 18, 2011

    Egypt approved a request from Iran to send two naval ships through the Suez Canal on their way to Syria, a move that has ratcheted up Middle East tensions and driven oil prices higher as Israel calls it a “provocation.”

    News of the decision was reported today by Egypt’s state television network and confirmed by an Egyptian military official who declined to be identified in line with policy. Iran’s application to use the waterway specified that the vessels don’t hold any nuclear or chemical materials, and aren’t carrying or delivering weapons, the official said earlier today.

    The ships will go to Syria, where they will anchor “for a few days” after a trip through the canal that is “routine according to international law,” Iran’s state-run Islamic Republic News Agency said, citing the country’s ambassador to Syria, Ahmad Mousavi.

    Crude oil rose to the highest level in a week in New York as anti-government demonstrations continued in Yemen, Bahrain and Libya, heightening concerns that instability in the Arab world will affect energy supplies.

    Crude for March delivery increased $1.06, or 1.2 percent, to $87.42 a barrel at 11:59 a.m. on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Earlier, it touched $87.79. The contract, which expires Feb. 22, has risen 2.4 percent this week. The more active April contract gained $1.66, or 1.9 percent, to $90.50.

    The U.S. is “monitoring” Iran’s plan to send warships through the Suez Canal, White House press secretary Jay Carney said today. Iran doesn’t show “responsible behavior in the region, which is always a concern to us,” Carney told reporters traveling on Air Force One to an appearance by President Barack Obama in Portland, Oregon.

    Key Route
    The 120-mile (190-kilometer) Suez Canal carries about 2.5 percent of world oil output, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc., and is a key route for ships carrying Asian consumer goods to Europe.

    The ships are a British-built, 1960s-era Mk-5 frigate and a supply vessel, according to Israel’s Yedioth Ahronot newspaper.

    The passage of the Iranian vessels would be a “provocation” to Israel, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said two days ago. He warned the international community that Israel would not “ignore forever” such acts.

    After the Egyptian approval for the ships’ passage, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said by telephone that he had nothing to add to what Lieberman had said on the issue.

    Iran hasn’t sent warships through the canal in “many years,” Lieberman said yesterday.

    Iranian Dissent
    Iran has accused the U.S. and Israel of stoking domestic dissent, which has revived in the past week under the influence of Arab revolts, and rejects international sanctions against its nuclear program. Iran has said discussions of Israel’s nuclear development should be part of any talks on its own atomic work. Israel hasn’t confirmed or denied possession of nuclear weapons.

    Israel and the U.S. suspect that Iran’s nuclear program is aimed at producing weapons. Iran says it is for generating power. The United Nations has imposed four rounds of sanctions on Iran over its nuclear development.

    The Islamic nation deployed security forces to put down a Feb. 14 rally by opposition groups that was the biggest since the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in June 2009 prompted mass rallies claiming the vote was fixed.

    Nationwide Demonstrations
    Nationwide demonstrations are planned for Feb. 20 to mourn those killed in this week’s protests, according to the website of former Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi, who ran against Ahmadinejad in 2009 and led protests after the vote. Opposition groups liken Iran’s regime to those of ousted Arab autocrats such as Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak. Iranian state-run Press TV said two people were killed in this week’s unrest.

    Mousavi, the Iranian diplomat, accused the Israelis of “perverting the truth,” calling passage through the Suez “routine” and part of Iran’s strategic relationship with Syria.

    “The Israeli side is interpreting international law according to its own interests and is perverting the truth,” IRNA quoted him as saying.

    According to international law, Egypt cannot forbid any vessel from passing through the canal unless that country is at war with Egypt, Ahmed El-Manakhly, transit director at the Suez Canal Authority, told Bloomberg Television yesterday.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-18/iran-seeks-clearance-for-warships-to-use-suez-canal-egypt-official-says.html

  40. How are they going to replace all those teachers when the fire the teachers that are going to get fired for not showing up to work…. My guess HB1 visa’s….I think that’s what they are going to do with us healthcare workers too…they have overabundance of homes to sell and so why not open the flood gates for the educated workers to come over here and take our jobs….this is all planned!

  41. #
    JanH
    February 18th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    The media is all over the place about this apparent/non-apparent heckler/ex-cia person who got thrown out from Hillary’s speech on the internet.

    They are complaining that he was treated brutally and some group is asking for Hillary to apologize.
    —————

    Read LJ’s post at NQ.

  42. confloyd
    February 18th, 2011 at 2:28 am
    Moon,
    Glad they are cutting off some of those CzarsI wonder how much he pays themof coarse theyll stay on just to keep things screwed up!
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    a) they are wealthy enough not to need pay, but….

    b) they use their positions as Czar of This or Czar of That to enrich the corporations they represent (they never resign from their companies out of concern for “conflict of interest”).

  43. BADDA-BING!

    moononpluto
    February 18th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    BREAKING: Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.)
    &&&&&

    Yes, another rat jumps the ship. Who wants to stick around for the bloodfest in 2012, when Obama will be the Democrats’ cement shoes?

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/18/jeff_bingaman_to_retire_108948.html

  44. Funny, the above article has at the end a funny spin on it, that the Dem Senatorial Campaign Committee is pushing for retirements:

    “Democratic Senate strategists note that the early retirement announcements from senators like Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and now Bingaman are all part of a larger strategy put in place by Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chair Patty Murray of Washington. The committee hopes to avoid late retirement announcements that would lead to shortened campaigns for new candidates. Instead, they hope to see candidates – including those such as Heinrich, potentially – hit the ground running early.”
    &&&&&&&&

    If that’s their plan, can’t they convince Obama that they need him to quit NOW, so that a suitable candidate can hit the ground running early????

  45. BROOKS USES OBAMA’S “CAN KICKING” ANALOGY AGAINST HIM.

    nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

    Tomorrow Never Comes
    ===============

    By DAVID BROOKS
    Published: February 17, 2011

    Jonathan Alter wrote a book about Barack Obama’s first year in office called “The Promise.” That’s a great title because it works on so many levels. For example, over the past four years, Obama’s career has been marked by a constant promise: He has continually said he is on the verge of doing something serious abut the national debt.

    He started making the promise back when he was in the Senate. In “The Audacity of Hope,” published in 2006, he expressed alarm at the “mountain of debt” caused by $300 billion annual budget deficits. (They’re now $1.6 trillion.) During the presidential campaign, he pledged to put away childish things and tackle the tough budget issues.

    During the transition, he said the time to act on the debt is now. “What we have done is kicked the can down the road,” he told The Washington Post. “We are now at the end of the road and are not in a position to kick it any further.” He said he would start a budget initiative in February 2009.

    After the stimulus package passed, he and his aides said it would soon be time to turn to deficit issues. The same promise was made after health care reform. He made the pledge yet again at a press conference this week. Right now is not the time, the president always says, but tomorrow we will get serious.

    But tomorrow never comes.

    The biggest tease came last year when the president’s debt commission announced its report. That report produced a series of great conversations. But, yet again, words do not translate into action. The message of the president’s 2012 budget is: Not yet. We’ll get serious tomorrow.

    The budget has some fine features. I’ll soon be writing a column about how many of its provisions are better than anything the Republican Party is proposing. But it is laughably inadequate compared with the fiscal problems before us.

    In 2012, the only year this budget controls, the president would actually increase the deficit with more spending. Roughly two-thirds of the alleged savings would nominally kick in after 2016. The budget imagines that $328 billion in financing for transportation projects will magically appear. While ignoring tax reform, it lards up the tax code with another layer of special preferences. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget calculates that $780 billion of the proposed deficit cuts are politically dubious.

    The budget gets a lot of little things right, but it squanders the opening created by the debt commission. It fails to touch the big programs or ask for any shared sacrifice from the American people.

    Two explanations are commonly offered to explain why the White House decided to kick the can down the road. Some analysts say the Democrats are trying for a repeat of 1995: Do nothing on the deficit; goad the Republicans into announcing entitlement cutbacks and then savage them on the campaign trail for cutting off granny.

    I don’t believe this is in the president’s head. It would be morally reprehensible to bankrupt the nation for the sake of a campaign theme. Obama is not that sort of person.

    The other explanation is that Obama is following the model of the 1983 Social Security deal. Be patient, the president argued at his press conference this week. If I lead from the front my proposal will get stymied in the partisan circus. Better to lead from the back and have negotiations in private with Republican leaders. Then when the time is ripe, we’ll cut a deal outside the glare of the scream machine.

    The president and his aides may really believe in this strategy, but it is wrong. This is not like fixing Social Security in the early 1980s. The current debt problem is of an entirely different scale. It requires a rewrite of the social contract, a new way to think about how the government pays for social insurance.

    The president has enormous faith in getting smart people around the table and initiating technocratic reform. But you can’t renegotiate the social contract in private. You have to have public buy-in. You have to spend years out in public educating voters about the size of the problem and what will be required. You have to show voters what a solution looks like.

    The New Deal wasn’t passed by a president who led quietly from the back. Neither was the Great Society or the Reagan Revolution. President Obama’s softly, softly approach is a rationalization, not a coherent strategy. It’s the latest version of Obama’s eternal promise: I’ll do it tomorrow.

    So the mantle of leadership has passed to Capitol Hill. While Obama asked for patience yet again, Eric Cantor announced that Republicans will put entitlements on the table. It may be politically risky, but it looks more like leadership to me.

  46. WHOLE LOTTA SITTING

    Great quote from this link about Jay Carney’s tenure as “Deceiver of Press Corps”.

    reuters.com/article/2011/02/18/us-obama-carney-idUSTRE71H0Y120110218

    Carney largely declined to take the bait on Thursday when asked about a blast from House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner that Obama “wasn’t elected to just sit there in the Oval Office, he was elected to lead.”

  47. Part of the problem that has corrupted many (not all) unions in this country is the way our campaigns are financed.
    Without public campaign financing, the muscle and money of unions become a way to “buy” politicians, who then dispense special favors, benefits, and dispensations (see the healthcare waivers, etc) in return. None of that has much to do with collective bargaining between labor and management – which was the entire purpose of unions in the beginning.

    The screwiness of our system requiring millions to get elected has a corrupting influence that goes far beyond just the candidates themselves. The unions we see today are not Norma Rae – they are political arms of the Dim party.

  48. These were his words back in June 2009:

    America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap and share common principles–principles of JUSTICE and progress; TOLERANCE and the DIGNITY of all human beings.

    ==========================

    Hillary said something very like that in 2010. “Human values are AMerican values”, or vv, or something like that.

  49. his canned Hollywood poses (like the hand in the suit pocket slight tilt flap up–which was Kennedy but before Kennedy Astaire, or the canned pictures of his two children hiding under his desk while he takes a phone call with that casual Astaire look which again is the mirror image of a Kennedy pose in life magazine.

    ===========================

    Good grief. Someone should make a flyer juxtaposing those pictures, with the caption, “But you are no JFK.”

  50. David Brooks wrote:
    I don’t believe this is in the president’s head. It would be morally reprehensible to bankrupt the nation for the sake of a campaign theme. Obama is not that sort of person.

    ====================

    ROTFLMAO!

  51. The unions we see today are not Norma Rae – they are political arms of the Dim party.
    *******
    Exactly…The workers are just the pawns in the game.

    “At the evening rally Wisconsin AFL-CIO President Phil Neuenfeldt made it clear the unions were not against budget cutting in principle. “We understand these are tough times. We know that we have to sit down and work things out. But don’t act like a bully to the unions.”

    The unions, in other words, are demanding the “right” to be involved in overseeing wage-cutting and the rollback of working conditions. The workers and youth demonstrating in Madison, on the other hand, are driven by aspirations for basic social rights—good jobs, health care, housing, and education. This will bring them into conflict with the unions and the entire political establishment.”

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/feb2011/inte-f18.shtml

    Just ask the auto workers who their union was working for.

    From what I am reading, the budget crisis in WI was precipitated by recent rethug tax cuts for the rich and corps. What I don’t understand is what is their “vision” for the country. Laissez faire and Social Darwinism has already been tried and it ended with the Great Depression. Forcing the American middle class into poverty isn’t a strategy for a healthy country.

  52. Holy Mary…hell froze over.

    Helen Thomas “Obama Lacks Courage & He’s NOT A Liberal!”

    hahahahahahahaha

  53. House votes to defund health care law

    The House of Representatives voted Friday to bar any federal agency from spending money to implement the new health care law.

    The vote was on an GOP amendment to a bill that would cut government spending for the rest of this fiscal year, and fell mostly along party lines, 239-187.

    The Republican-led House passed a measure last month repealing health care, but that bill is unlikely to go anywhere in the Senate where Democrats are in control. The Friday vote was the first attempt by House Republicans to block the law by denying money to agencies – such as the Department of Health and Human Services – which are responsible for implementing the various provisions of the health care law. The measure applies to 2011 funds. The biggest parts of the law take effect in 2014.

    Montana Republican Denny Rehberg sponsored the amendment and argued that the law, which he called “Obamacare” was “big government” and needed to be repealed. He said if it can’t be repealed, Republicans “are going to try and defund it to the best of our ability.”

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/18/house-votes-to-defund-health-care-law/

  54. Anjeanette Damon, Host of To The Point, has learned from multiple sources that Reno City Manager Donna Dreska abruptly resigned from her post Friday morning. News 4’s Mackenzie Warren spoke Dreska late this morning. Dreska refused to comment until a 2:00pm news confernce today.

    Dreska had met last week with the State Department of Taxation about whether city staff had illegally transferred funds between accounts. There is no proof of any connection between the investigation and today’s resignation. (yeah but you can join the dots……)

  55. moononpluto
    February 18th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Holy Mary…hell froze over.

    Helen Thomas “Obama Lacks Courage & He’s NOT A Liberal!”

    hahahahahahahaha

    ————-

    I read the other day that she also said that anti-semitism ended with the holocaust.

  56. I don’t know how authentic this is but if true it could be the end for O.
    —– Original Message —–

    I received photos of these documents but was unable to copy and paste them here.

    Here is the magic document almost everyone was waiting to surface.

    Snopes say’s it’s true

    The document we have been waiting for! Now will Congress or the Supreme Court act on this?

    If these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be, Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally!

    This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.

    Here’s a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent’s names, etc….

    A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
    After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said “Sir Edward F. Lavender” Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
    Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library.”

    And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read “Coast Providence of Kenya ” and the
    official signature of the Deputy Registrar…..

    The above document is a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”, but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth…
    the real-deal legal kind of certificate.

    The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama’s birth certificate from Coast ProvinceGeneral Hospital in
    Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
    directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is…..

    Note the footprint!!

    The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.

    The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa
    ……

    “On August 4, 1961 Obama’s mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival inMombasa , Kenya .
    Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obama’s went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial
    General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!). Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

    Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya ……

    “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic ofKenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy”. My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s
    birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

    The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

    Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at theMombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

    It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

    I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as
    my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau”

    So, how much more proof do we need?

    Well, Here it is…

    Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.

    This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi
    school inJakarta, Indonesia , shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
    Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

    Name: Barry Soetoro
    Religion: Islam
    Nationality: Indonesian

    How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child – Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama)
    get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?

    PART 2:
    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the
    group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s
    college transcripts from Occidental College …

    The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
    foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released
    by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
    Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial
    aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
    To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking –
    that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States – necessary to be President of these
    United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is
    no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..
    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
    of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
    in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block
    disclosure of any of his personal records.

    Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided
    to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.

    I don’t know how authentic this is but if true it could be the end for O.
    —– Original Message —–

    Here is the magic document almost everyone was waiting to surface.

    Snopes say’s it’s true

    The document we have been waiting for! Now will Congress or the Supreme Court act on this?

    If these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be, Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally!

    This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.

    Here’s a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent’s names, etc….

    A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
    After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said “Sir Edward F. Lavender” Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
    Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library.”

    And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read “Coast Providence of Kenya ” and the
    official signature of the Deputy Registrar…..

    The above document is a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”, but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth…
    the real-deal legal kind of certificate.

    The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama’s birth certificate from Coast ProvinceGeneral Hospital in
    Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
    directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is…..

    Note the footprint!!

    The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.

    The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa
    ……

    “On August 4, 1961 Obama’s mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival inMombasa , Kenya .
    Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obama’s went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial
    General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!). Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

    Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya ……

    “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic ofKenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy”. My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s
    birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

    The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

    Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at theMombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

    It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

    I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as
    my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau”

    So, how much more proof do we need?

    Well, Here it is…

    Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.

    This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi
    school inJakarta, Indonesia , shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
    Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

    Name: Barry Soetoro
    Religion: Islam
    Nationality: Indonesian

    How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child – Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama)
    get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?

    PART 2:
    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the
    group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s
    college transcripts from Occidental College …

    The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
    foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released
    by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
    Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial
    aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
    To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking –
    that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States – necessary to be President of these
    United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is
    no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..
    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
    of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
    in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block
    disclosure of any of his personal records.

    Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided
    to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.

    LET OTHERS KNOW OF THIS NEWS – THE MEDIA WON’T!

  57. The video above is a direct slam at Hillary. They completely omit to mention her tough-love speech in the Middle East recently and place little or no blame on bambi.

  58. Obama and Rice gave the PALS every opportunity for the US to join in the resolution by changing the languge which Abbas refused….The PALS have their best friend ever in the WHite House and they still thankfully blew it….

  59. Yes Hillary new ahead of time what was happening to the Middle East…Egypt et al. And you can be sure she briefed the idiot about it and warned him of the consequences.

    And yet Fox continues to point the finger at Hillary. I guess those stupid young bots he has working for him who refuse to do their homework are blameless as well.

  60. #

    #
    HillaryforTexas
    February 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Part of the problem that has corrupted many (not all) unions in this country is the way our campaigns are financed.
    Without public campaign financing, the muscle and money of unions become a way to “buy” politicians, who then dispense special favors, benefits, and dispensations (see the healthcare waivers, etc) in return. None of that has much to do with collective bargaining between labor and management – which was the entire purpose of unions in the beginning.

    The screwiness of our system requiring millions to get elected has a corrupting influence that goes far beyond just the candidates themselves. The unions we see today are not Norma Rae – they are political arms of the Dim party.
    ———

    The problem shouldn’t be solved by union busting, which hurts the workers that make low wages and need to ban together to avoid sweat shops.

    The problem is politicians getting money for their campaigns and giving favors to big donors. Just going after the unions and not corporations and the rich donors is just hypocritical.

    Hypocritical is the middle name of the Republican party.

  61. Helen Thomas “Obama Lacks Courage & He’s NOT A Liberal!”


    And when the fog cleared, Helen had a rare moment of clarity!

  62. I don’t see how Richardson can expect to run for the Senate in this state, when he left he state under some low clouds, and his approval rating was in the Toilet. New Mexican’s have long memories.

  63. Carol
    February 18th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    I don’t know how authentic this is but if true it could be the end for O.
    ——————————————————————————-

    Carol, Getting this incompetent liar out of the White House is not going to be so easy. You should select sentences from what you posted and search in Google to see how long that stuff has been around and explore some of the discussion on it.

    Here is some fresh news along the same lines that I think is worthy of note:

    Thursday, February 17, 2011
    Shock: Supreme Court of the United States to give the Obama eligibility case ‘Hollister v. Soetoro’ another look on March 4, 2011…

    …the Colonel Gregory Hollister v. Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, et al, Petition for Writ of Certiorari, filed in the United States Supreme Court, was denied without comment and with no recusal from jUstice Sotomayor and jUstice Kagan. WND is now reporting that the Supreme Court of the United States will give the case another look. The case was Distributed for Conference on February 16, 2011 and is set for conference on March 4, 2011…

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/supreme-court-of-united-states-to-give.html

  64. ohanson,
    hmmm,hmmmm March 4th….well there’s a day for you! Isn’t that the day the republicans are suppose to shut down the government unless Obama and his dimorats approve of everything they want??? Is there more blackmail going on here….just who’s blackmailing who…I think Admin…had something along these lines not too long ago…

    Well lets hope the rethugs get this no good for nothin out of office before this country becomes a third world country and I’ll have to wear a burka. Geez! I fall down in regular clothes, just imagine the kind of spills I’ll take if I have to wear those tents with eyehole’s cut out…YUK! I’ll die first!

  65. American Gal…That article is from the Nation…consider the source
    *************

    I don’t believe this is in the president’s head. It would be morally reprehensible to bankrupt the nation for the sake of a campaign theme. Obama is not that sort of person.
    ************

    yes he is, yes he is, yes he is, yes he is…..

  66. On the Republican side, I see Heather Wilson will probably try for the seat. Both Pearce and Wilson were Reps, and both ran against each other in the Primary for seat that Udall won. Pearce, has just won his Rep seat back. Wilson did not go against the Dem who took her seat. I suspect she will run, and Pearce might be silly enough to try it again. Wilson was bearly beaten by Pearce, and she has a lot of Republican followers. She headed the transition team for the new Republican Gov. So I am thinking Wilson. The people in the Southern part of the state are going to be mad if Pearce leaves that rep seat again to run for Senate.

    Wilson’s Rep Seat was won by Martin Heinrich a Dem. Even though he is new, he did win a hard fought reelecton, and I don’t put it past him to give it a try. However, if Richardson is foolish enough to run, he will not challenge him, as he was a mentor. So then I would have to think about who would challenge Richardson in the Primary. One might be the former Albuquerque Mayor, Marty Chavez. Really I think Henrich would be the stronger candidate.

    So if it is Wilson Against Heinrich, I really cannot predict a winner. Both have excellent campaign staffs.

  67. Yes, Jesse is there..who knew (CHUCKLE)…and physical threats to the senator’s by, let me see, is Sarah Palin present? It has to be Sarah’s fault…maybe Hillary’s

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    Madison — The Assembly teetered on the brink of chaos late Friday but then adjourned peacefully after Republicans rescinded a vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s budget-repair bill that was taken by the GOP lawmakers without Democrats present.

    GOP lawmakers had quickly taken a key vote on the bill to repeal union bargaining rights for public workers as Democrats charged into the chamber in an attempt to stop them. That vote would have put the bill into a stage in the legislative process in which it could not have been amended. Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca (D-Kenosha) called the move an “illegal vote” and demanded that Republicans rescind it.

    Republicans had called lawmakers to the floor at 5 p.m., but they began voting minutes before that, when Democrats were not yet on the floor.

    As Democrats entered the chamber and shouted to stop the proceedings, Republican staff urged leaders to “keep going, keep going.” Republicans took their vote before finally recognizing Barca.

    “Unbelievable!” Barca screamed. “Unprecedented! Un-American! Not in keeping with the values of the state. You should be ashamed of yourselves.”

    The Assembly then went into a loud and angry debate on how to proceed. But Republicans then agreed to cancel the vote and allow Democrats to offer amendments at a later time. Democrats may have dozens of them, and the debate – whenever it happens – is expected to take hours.

    The high political drama comes as the standoff on the budget repair bill drags, a throng of thousands demonstrate at the Capitol, and national figures weigh in on the events.

    Meanwhile Friday, the head of the largest state workers union said that his group is willing to give in to Walker’s demand for concessions on their benefits if the governor gives up his bid to repeal nearly all bargaining rights for public worker unions.

    But the Republican governor said that would not be enough to solve the state’s budget problems without overburdening local governments.

    Marty Beil, head of the Wisconsin State Employees Union, which represents some 23,000 blue-collar state workers, said his group would agree to pay more of their pension contributions and health insurance benefits.

    “We are prepared to implement the financial concessions proposed to help bring our state’s budget into balance, but we will not be denied our God-given right to join a real union . . .  we will not – I repeat we will not – be denied our rights to collectively bargain,” Beil said in a statement.

    But Walker said he needed to give local governments more flexibility to deal with their employees. He said they will need that flexibility to cope with cuts in aid to schools and local governments that Walker wants to make to help balance the state budget.

    “It doesn’t work,” Walker said of Beil’s offer in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “My goal all along has been to give all these governments the tools to control their own budgets.”

    In another development Friday, Walker will deliver his budget address on Tuesday as planned but delay for at least a week the unveiling of the 2011-’13 state budget bill.

    With only Republicans present and Senate Democrats still missing, the Senate voted Friday afternoon to give Walker another week to introduce the proposal, which is expected to include big cuts in state aid to schools. The Senate has enough lawmakers present to vote on the delay measure but not enough to vote on a repair bill for the current budget that Walker is seeking to have passed.

    The measure was also adopted by the Assembly.

    The Wisconsin Assembly convened at 9 a.m. Friday to take up Walker’s repair bill as activists continue to fill the Capitol, drinking coffee, banging drums and digging in for another daylong drama.

    On the first floor of the Capitol rotunda, Democratic activist Jesse Jackson was cheered by the crowd Friday at noon. Surrounded by people on all sides and peering down at the ground floor from the upper-level railing, Jackson addressed the crowd with a bullhorn and most of his speech could not be heard clearly. But he lead the throng in chants of “we’re not going away” and “kill the bill” and in singing the civil-rights era standard “We shall overcome.”

    Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) responded that Jackson’s appearance and recent comments by President Barack Obama on the budget standoff showed that Wisconsin has become a national leader for states that are struggling with difficult budget deficits in the face of a prolonged economic downturn.

    “It proves that Wisconsin has become the tip of the spear,” Fitzgerald said.

    But Fitzgerald said national figures wouldn’t influence the actions of the Legislature. He said Walker will still give his budget address at a Madison business as planned on Tuesday.

    John Hogan, Fitzgerald’s chief of staff, said Republican senators have received threats and that he won’t release their locations once they leave the Capitol.

    Sen. Randy Hopper (R-Fond du Lac), who has a number of state workers such as prison guards in his district, said he had received threats such as “I have a billy club and I will use it.” Hopper said he “ought never be frightened in doing my job” but vowed he would not be intimidated.

    In the Senate, Republicans came to the floor at 9:30 a.m. and did a call for all senators to come to the floor. But for the second straight day, Democrats did not show up – a move that blocks a vote on Walker’s bill to cut public worker benefits and strip public unions of most bargaining rights.

    Andrew Welhouse, a spokesman for Fitzgerald, said that State Patrol troopers have been sent to the Monona home of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller, a Democrat, to see if he is there and bring him back for a vote on the measure. Welhouse said that at the direction of Senate President Mike Ellis (R-Neenah), Senate Sergeant at Arms Ted Blazel requested the action from the troopers after the call for Democrats to return to the Senate was made by GOP leaders.

    But Democrats are hiding out in Illinois, outside the jurisdiction of the State Patrol.

    In a statement, Miller said he was sorry he couldn’t thank the troopers for their work.

    “My colleagues and I continue to work to stop state government from taking away rights from workers,” he said. “We continue to call on the governor and Republicans to allow us to get serious about addressing fiscal issues and creating jobs and drop the unrelated items that do nothing to help us balance our budget.”

    In an interview from an undisclosed location in Illinois, Sen. Jim Holperin (D-Conover) said he and his Democratic Senate colleagues aren’t in Freeport, Ill., where most spent Thursday night, or in Rockford, where they also met on Thursday.

    “We will be back eventually. We won’t obstruct the vote forever,” Holperin said.

    “We are within range of the Capitol if we need to be.”

    But Sen. Spencer Coggs (D-Milwaukee) said it was doubtful that he and his colleagues would return on Friday.

    Inside the Capitol, the noise had built up to Thursday’s deafening levels. Outside, the showdown in Madison is now reverberating across the state and nation. Public schools in Wisconsin’s two largest cities, Milwaukee and Madison, are shut down Friday because of a “sick out” by teachers, leaving tens of thousands of parents and students scrambling to make other plans.

    Organized labor is also gearing up a national effort to back the Wisconsin unions. At a noon rally in front of the Capitol, national AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka is expected to join thousands of demonstrators. His appearance, and behind-the-scenes organizing help from unions with national reach, shows just how great the stakes are in Wisconsin for the national labor movement.

    Meanwhile, tea party activists are busily organizing a counter rally that is scheduled for Saturday between noon and 3 p.m. in front of the State Capitol.

    Yet for all the activity, Walker’s budget-repair bill is bogged down by one fact: Senate Democrats have fled the state. Without the Democrats, the Senate is unable to vote on the bill.

    Democratic senators boycotted a Senate vote Thursday on Walker’s budget-repair plan, forcing Republicans to put off further action in that house until Friday at the earliest. As of Friday morning, their whereabouts were still unclear.

    With Democrats hiding out just over the Illinois border and drawing national media attention, Republicans had too few lawmakers to take a vote Thursday and had to adjourn. With thousands of demonstrators swarming the Capitol Square, GOP lawmakers vowed to come back Friday morning to try to take up the proposal, which would help solve a state budget shortfall by cutting public employee benefits and most public union bargaining rights.

    Democrats holed up for a time in the Clock Tower Resort & Conference Center in Rockford, Ill., while Republicans said they wanted law enforcement to bring them to the Capitol if they were still in Wisconsin. Walker called for Democrats to call off their “stunt” and “show up and do the job they’re paid to do.”

    “It’s either a matter of making reductions and making modest requests of our government employees or making massive layoffs at a time when we don’t need anyone else laid off,” Walker said.

    Walker said that he had received more than 8,000 e-mails on the issue, with the majority of them backing his stance.

    Democrats and union leaders said their concerns were focused on losing decades-old bargaining rights, not the financial concessions. In a telephone interview from an undisclosed location, Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) said he was upholding the rights of workers by allowing for more debate on the bill.

    “This is a watershed moment unlike any that we have experienced in our political lifetimes,” Miller said. “The people have shown that the government has gone too far . . .  We are prepared to do what is necessary to make sure that this bill gets the consideration it needs.”

    Several Democratic senators declined to comment on how long they’d stay away from the Capitol. Sen. Bob Jauch (D-Poplar) said late Thursday the decision on when to return had not been made yet.

    The political drama played out amid a massive demonstration of union members that clogged the hallways of the Capitol and made the rotunda ring with chanted slogans as loud as the revving of a motorcycle engine.

    For the third straight day, thousands demonstrated inside and outside the Capitol. With drums pounding in the background, the crowd blocked the main entrance to the Senate by sitting down in front of it, though police kept a side entrance open.

    The scene and mood on the marble floors was part angry protest, part carnival and part sleep-in. There were placards, Valentine balloons, banjos, air horns and an American flag.

    At least nine people were arrested in the protests at the Capitol, the state Department of Administration reported Thursday afternoon. Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney said those were mostly disorderly conduct charges and no one had been taken to jail.

    Mahoney, a Democrat and former union leader, said officers are in the Capitol to protect the free speech rights of both sides. He said there are roughly a dozen law enforcement groups at the Capitol.

    “We are exercising extreme measures of tolerance,” Mahoney said.

    Assembly action possible

    Assembly GOP leaders have not ruled out the possibility of voting on the bill early Friday, said John Jagler, a spokesman for Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald (R-Horicon).

    Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca (D-Kenosha) said Assembly Democrats were focused on drafting amendments to the bill. He left open the possibility that Assembly Democrats would leave town like the Senate Democrats to prevent the Assembly from acting.

    But that scenario appears unlikely. To pass a budget bill in that house, 58 members of the Assembly must be present. There are 57 Republicans in the Assembly, and Rep. Bob Ziegelbauer (I-Manitowoc) said he plans to vote for the bill.

    Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) said that Democrats in his house were “not showing up for work” and that he wanted law enforcement to bring them back.

    “That’s not democracy. That’s not what this chamber is about,” Fitzgerald said of the boycott.

    The state constitution says lawmakers can be compelled to attend floor sessions. Senate Chief Clerk Rob Marchant said he was “researching the extent to which law enforcement can be involved” in doing that.

    Sen. Tim Cullen (D-Janesville) first confirmed Thursday morning that Democrats were boycotting the Senate action on the bill in efforts to block a quorum and keep the measure from passing. Because 20 senators of the 33-member house are needed to be present to pass a fiscal bill, the body’s 19 Republicans are not enough to pass the budget repair bill without at least one Democrat present.

    Cullen said Democrats hope delaying the bill will give more time for union demonstrators to win over any possible wavering Republicans or force Walker to negotiate. Walker has said he hopes to finish the bill in the coming days by Feb. 25 for an offering of state bonds that would be affected by the budget-repair bill.

    The Rockford Register Star reported that Democratic senators arrived at the Clock Tower at about 10:30 a.m. and left later in the day. State Sen. Jim Holperin (D-Conover) told the Illinois newspaper that Democrats wanted more time to understand the bill and debate its impacts.

    “This is pretty significant legislation that would take away decades of collective bargaining rights,” Holperin said.

    Scott Fitzgerald said he believed the last time such an action happened was in October 1995. At that time, then-Sen. Joe Wineke (D-Verona) fled the Senate to block passage of the $250 million Miller Park stadium deal that raised the sales tax in the Milwaukee area.

    The Senate Democrats’ tactic didn’t win over Sen. Rob Cowles (R-Green Bay), a moderate whom unions had been trying to convince to vote against the bill. Cowles called the blockage of the Senate vote an attempt to “shut down democracy.”

    Lack of quorum

    The Senate convened at 11:30 a.m., with 17 Republicans but no Democrats present. After a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, action was immediately disrupted by demonstrators in the gallery shouting, “Freedom, democracy, unions.” One of the two missing Republicans arrived shortly afterward and an aide to the nineteenth, Sen. Dale Schultz (R-Richland Center), said his boss was unable to make it to the Senate through the demonstrators.

    Senate President Mike Ellis (R-Neenah) made a call of the house to bring the additional senators needed to vote on the bill to the Senate floor.

    Walker and Scott Fitzgerald have said they were confident that the GOP lawmakers had the votes they needed to pass the bill without further changes. Walker said Thursday that the proposal’s cuts to worker benefits and union bargaining laws are financially necessary and that he wouldn’t accept changes that compromised the savings he’s seeking.

    The state has a $137 million budget shortfall for the fiscal year ending June 30 and a more than $3 billion shortfall over the next two years. The cuts to benefits would save taxpayers nearly $330 million through mid-2013.

    Republicans control the Senate 19-14, meaning they can lose only two votes and still pass the bill if all Democrats oppose it. Some Republicans have shown reluctance about the bill, though so far none have said publicly that they will vote against it.

    Sen. Luther Olsen (R-Ripon) said he was uncomfortable about the bill’s effects on workers but also concerned about the other alternatives to fix the budget.

    “I will probably vote for it” on the Senate floor, Olsen said.

    Top GOP leaders in the Legislature have said they expect the bill to pass both houses with the changes adopted by the Joint Finance Committee late Wednesday on a party-line vote. Some GOP senators attempted to make changes to the bill Wednesday that would go further than the Joint Finance Committee changes but had no success.

    The biggest change approved by the Joint Finance Committee would require local governments that don’t have a civil-service system to create one that would have to address grievances for employee termination, employee discipline and workplace safety.

    The committee left major elements of the bill in place. It would require most public workers to pay half their pension costs – typically 5.8% of pay for state workers – and at least 12% of their health care costs. It applies to most state and local employees but does not apply to police, firefighters and state troopers, who would continue to bargain for their benefits.

    Except for police, firefighters and troopers, raises would be limited to inflation unless a bigger increase was approved in a referendum. The non-law enforcement unions would lose their rights to bargain over anything but wages, would have to hold annual elections to keep their organizations intact and would lose the ability to have union dues deducted from state paychecks.

    Don Walker and Lee Bergquist of the Journal Sentinel staff contributed to this report.

  68. NewMexicoFan
    February 18th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
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    I know Heather Wilson. She graduated at or near the top of her class at the Air Force Academy. I played golf one time with the chief pilot for Alaska Airlines and he had a very high opinion of her. She served in a staff capacity in Bush 41. She ran for the Congressional seat and won. Then she had that bizarre run in with the reporter over a police report involving her husband and some Jane Doe. It was made to appear that she used her office to bury it. I am not sure what the investigation revealed but the negative press cost her critical support in the election she lost. She is pretty conservative as I recall. If that business got all sorted out and there is no blackmail material lurking below the surface, then she probably will run.

  69. gonzotx
    February 18th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
    FOX TV reported in their 7 pm eastern hour that one of the first things Gov. Walker did after becoming governor of Wisc. is to cut taxes. Now he wants to bust public unions to save the state budget.

    A local tv show in Columbus Ohio where similar protests are taking place after public pension systems made many concessions on retirement age and benefits, but the repub governor still wants to cut more to ‘cut the deficit’, is discussing how little this will actually cut the deficit and that this same governor who took office in January has already cut estate taxes.

  70. bstonesfan
    February 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    ——————–
    I don’t know what to think. I guess I’ll wait and watch the actual interview.

  71. I do not know what is going on in Wisconsin. I understand there is a budget crisis, but the answer to that is to bargain–not to do away with collective bargaining. If I were tasked with bargaining concessions, I would leave pensions alone and focus on free retiree medical if it exists. If you do away with collective bargaining, which seems to be the governors strategy, the next step will be statewide strikes. This ain’t rocket science. And crooks like Trumpka come out looking like heroes. The dim legislators are cowards. They should stand their ground rather than retreat. The people of the state of Wisconsin pay them to represent them, not to hide out.

  72. I have not studied Governor Christie’s battles over budgets, but from the sound bites, he is doing it the right way. I do not see him doing away with collective bargaining. I see him taking on his opponents and getting the people of the state on his side. He gets down in the pit with his adversaries and argues his position. He may not win, but at least he does it honestly, the way a public official should. If Trumka strikes him, Trumka will come out the villain. In Wisonsin, it is the other way around. You cannot take away vested rights from people, and collective bargaining is a critical component of labor peace and democracy.

  73. Jan-

    I have the story that goes along with your video at 8:49pm-

    Hillary’s words are the words that should be spoken of a president.
    ______________________

    Clinton urges Pakistan to implement reforms

    Amid an escalating and potentially explosive diplomatic dispute, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday that Pakistan risks major instability at home that will threaten the success of the U.S.-led war effort in next-door Afghanistan if it doesn’t implement reforms and stop fomenting anti-American sentiment.

    By MATTHEW LEE

    AP NEW YORK — Amid an escalating and potentially explosive diplomatic dispute, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday that Pakistan risks major instability at home that will threaten the success of the U.S.-led war effort in next-door Afghanistan if it doesn’t implement reforms and stop fomenting anti-American sentiment.

    “Shocking, unjustified anti-Americanism will not resolve these problems,” she said.

    In a strongly worded speech to The Asia Society, Clinton said Pakistani cooperation is critical to the success of the fight against Taliban and al-Qaida extremists in Afghanistan.

    She spoke as U.S.-Pakistan tensions are soaring over the killing of two Pakistanis by an American embassy worker.

    Although she did not specifically mention the diplomatic impasse over the fate of a jailed American in Pakistan, Clinton was unusually blunt about Pakistan’s responsibilities.

    She cautioned against letting problems escalate into crises. The case has become a focal point for rampant suspicion about U.S. motives and activities in Pakistan, and U.S. insistence on a quick resolution has seemed to only harden Pakistani resolve not to bend.

    “Distrust lingers on both sides,” Clinton said. “We need to work together carefully to prevent misunderstandings and disagreements from derailing the progress we have made in the past two years.”

    Without serious efforts from Pakistan, a main thrust of the Afghan operation – splitting Taliban fighters from hard-core al-Qaida members and drawing them back in society – will not work, she said.

    She also warned that Afghanistan’s leaders themselves must reform and address rampant corruption if the roots of extremism are to be eliminated.

    Relations with Pakistan have plummeted to their lowest point in recent years since the arrest of the embassy employee in Lahore. The employee, Raymond Allen Davis, shot and killed two Pakistani men he says were trying to rob him on Jan. 27.

    The U.S. insists that Davis was acting in self-defense and qualifies for diplomatic immunity because he worked for the embassy. U.S. officials are demanding Davis be released immediately.

    Pakistani authorities have refused thus far to release Davis and have questioned his immunity status while some in Washington complain the case is being manipulated to foment anger and draw attention away from domestic woes.

    Despite an urgent diplomatic mission to Pakistan by Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman John Kerry, the situation remains unresolved with the Pakistani government in a tight spot.

    If it releases Davis, it risks angering violent elements in its population – including the Taliban, who have threatened to attack any official involved in letting Davis go. The ruling party also risks further alienating voters already unhappy with its performance.

    In Lahore, some 200 protesters associated with Jamaat-u-Dawa, a charity alleged to be a front for the banned militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, demanded Davis be hanged.

    Clinton noted that Pakistan’s public finances are in disarray and that energy shortages are hampering economic growth and causing political instability there.

    But whatever its problems, Pakistan has a responsibility to ensure that the Afghan Taliban cannot continue to conduct the insurgency from Pakistan’s territory, Clinton said.

    “Pressure from the Pakistani side will help push the Taliban toward the negotiating table and away from al-Qaida,” she said.

    She said the two groups are distinct and warned Taliban members that as the U.S. increases military pressure on them, they must choose between war by staying aligned with al-Qaida or peace by abandoning arms, renouncing terrorism and accepting the Afghan constitution.

    “This is the price for reaching a political resolution and bringing an end to the military actions that are targeting their leadership and decimating their ranks,” she said.

    “They cannot wait us out. They cannot defeat us. And they cannot escape this choice.”

    The U.S. says it has the Taliban on the run in key areas of the country. Heavy fighting is expected this spring, along with a continued heavy reliance on unmanned drone attacks and secret ground raids targeting militant leaders along the Pakistan border.

    The United States plans to begin withdrawing troops this summer, and President Barack Obama has promised that the U.S. combat role will end in 2014.

    The administration will begin assessing conditions for possible troop drawdowns next month as it determines where Afghan security forces can take the lead.

    The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, said last week that intelligence reports indicate Taliban leaders are worried and that there is “friction and discord” between the guerrillas in the field and their leadership in Pakistan.

    Last year’s troop surge, led by the United States, boosted the international fighting force in Afghanistan to about 150,000 troops. NATO and Afghan President Hamid Karzai hope to have more than 300,000 Afghan army and police in action by next autumn facing a much smaller organized insurgent force.

    Last year was the deadliest of the nearly decade-long war for international troops, with more than 700 killed. This compares to about 500 in 2009, previously the worst year of the war. Record numbers of insurgents and civilians also have been killed.

    Clinton also formally announced the appointment of retired veteran diplomat Marc Grossman to succeed the late Richard Holbrooke as the administration’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. Holbrooke died in December.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014265621_apususafghanistanpakistan.html?syndication=rss

  74. My opinion JanH is that Hillary’s statement was to mitigate the fallout over the US veto of the “illegatily” resolution today. Illegitimate as opposed to “illegal” allows some wiggle room . The problem, unfortunately, is that the whole settlement issue has and today more than ever continues to serve as red-herring for Arab/Muslim dictators use as a scapegoat so their repressed citizens. Now with all the chaos occuring in these repressed socities, we see that Israeli settlements have very little to do with the core issues facing Arab/Muslim society. This is entirely Obama’s fault for making the settlements the core issue for his middle east policies.
    While the Clintons do oppose the settlements, they understood there was no reason to make it even more unlikely that the PALS would have direct talks by making the settlements the threshold issue. Bill had the best deal ever for the PALS with Barak and they once again in the words of Abba Eban ” The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”.

  75. Mrs. Smith
    PBS is covering the gas fracking spoiling groundwater water story on Need to Know airing right now, if you’re interested.

  76. Excerpts from the above article:
    ______________

    “Despite an urgent diplomatic mission to Pakistan by Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman John Kerry, the situation remains unresolved with the Pakistani government in a tight spot.

    If it releases Davis, it risks angering violent elements in its population – including the Taliban, who have threatened to attack any official involved in letting Davis go. The ruling party also risks further alienating voters already unhappy with its performance.”
    ……

    So, for all the press and fanfare Kerry created going to Pakistan in a hostage removal mission using all the clout and political capital he could muster for influencing authorities to release Davis, he Failed.

    Perhaps had he offered to trade places with Davis demonstrating his passion and resolve, the government of Palestine might have recognized and respected him as a principled man on a mission to free a fellow American guilty only of the crime of self-defense.

    “Pressure from the Pakistani side will help push the Taliban toward the negotiating table and away from al-Qaida,” she said.

    “She said the two groups are distinct and warned Taliban members that as the U.S. increases military pressure on them, they must choose between war by staying aligned with al-Qaida or peace by abandoning arms, renouncing terrorism and accepting the Afghan constitution.”

    “This is the price for reaching a political resolution and bringing an end to the military actions that are targeting their leadership and decimating their ranks,” she said.

    “They cannot wait us out. They cannot defeat us. And they cannot escape this choice.”

    ___________________________

    The last line quoting Hillary is truly Churchillian!

    BRAVO!

  77. #
    BigCatLover
    February 18th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    PBS is covering the gas fracking spoiling groundwater water story on Need to Know airing right now, if you’re interested.
    _____________________

    Thanks, BigCatLover- Wonderful! The Gasland documentary is also available anytime on HBO Demand for FREE-

  78. Yes, they talked about tonight on the local news. They also mentioned Lujan, who is the Rep in the North.

    So what happens not 10 minutes ago, I get a survey call from the democratic party running down at least 7 names (can you believe they did it that fast). They also asked about Diane Denish, who ran for Gov, and lost to the Republican Martinez.

  79. Mrs. Smith
    February 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
    Jan-

    I have the story that goes along with your video at 8:49pm-

    Hillary’s words are the words that should be spoken of a president.

    ——————

    Agreed.

  80. jbstonesfan
    February 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    ——————

    “This is entirely Obama’s fault for making the settlements the core issue for his middle east policies.”

    ——————

    Well said. He is a one-man wrecking machine who has done more to destroy world peace than anyone in recent history. He may not be another Hitler, but he is a very corrupt and evil man in his own right.

  81. A Wisconsin resident’s view of the governor versus public employee unions:

    lahana, on February 18, 2011 at 2:14 pm said:
    As someone who lives in Wisconsin, here is a little background. As soon as he was elected (and before he was installed), Walker convinced the legislature to throw out the contracts that had been negotiated with state workers and were up for approval, stating that he wanted to negotiate with the unions himself. Then late last week the with only a notice on the capital bulletin board, this proposal was put forth with the expectation that that it could come up for a final vote in the assembly and senate by Thursday (yesterday). The state workers are already taking a 3% cut in wages by taking furlow days (usually the Friday before Monday holidays), and the contracts that were thrown out included I believe $100 million in additional concessions. One of the reasons that he wanted to get it done so quickly is that next Tuesday, he is submitting his budget which is believed to include a $900 million cut in general state school aid over the next 2 years. And today, the newspapers noted that if this law pases, communities in Wisconsin could lose federal transit money because federal law requires collective bargaining for their workers to receive the transit money. Not that I expect that to bother Walker, as soon as he was elected, he threw out the money that had been allocated to Wisconsin for high speed rail between Milwaukee and Madison — there is already a rail line between Chicago and Milwaukee, and the plan was to extend the line in the future between Madison and Minneapolis. This action cost Wisconsin somewhere between $500 and $900 million dollars and caused the company that was going to build the rail cars to relocate to another state, taking all their jobs with them. Walker has lots of plans, and all of them seem to involve cutting costs on the backs of the poor and middle class.
    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/im-sick-of-it/#comments

  82. I am with the WI protesters, the Gov. trying to bust the unions so he can say he isn’t raising taxes. WI will set the mood, the unions have to win or other Rethugs will try it in their state.

    That’s why the folks in my state made sure Meg Whitman didn’t win. If she had won, this WI protest would like like a calm day in the park.

    CA union employees, fire fighters, cops, teachers, staff and all others that are not making a killing from being in the union would burn down Sacramento if Meg did this to us. We decided to let her waste 160 million dollars of her own money to lose the election.
    Ahhhhhhhhhhh, that felt good!!

  83. Carl Rove needs to STFU. “It’s illegal for teachers to strike, it’s against the law…”


    So was starting the Fu@king war in Iraq to get the magical WMD, you JackWagon!!!

  84. CA union employees, fire fighters, cops, teachers, staff and all others that are not making a killing from being in the union would burn down Sacramento if Meg did this to us. We decided to let her waste 160 million dollars of her own money to lose the election.
    Ahhhhhhhhhhh, that felt good!!
    ******************
    Spend 160 million dollars to get an office where you can take pensions away from workers making 35,000 a year. Our country’s priorities are so screwed up. Of course Calif is in such a mess because it elected another screwball celebutician/grade b movie actor just like so much of the rest of the country seems to be trying to do.

  85. As a tree-hugger, I don’t like the sound of this fracking stuff. 😉 Still not a reason to reject all natural gas, which has been produced by other means for years, and is cleaner than gasoline.

    Here’s the State Dept pushing it. What does Hillary know that we don’t?

    http://naturalgasforamerica.com/a-shale-gas-bonanza.htm
    The State Department has begun promoting the technology abroad, saying that if it were adopted in China, Eastern Europe, and India, it would boost exports, significantly reduce Russian and Middle Eastern influence in those regions, and fight climate change. Still, many environmentalists are unimpressed.
    “The reason for doing this is that we think that shale gas can be the kind of game-changer in the global energy market that it has been in the U.S.,” David Goldwyn, the State
    Department’s coordinator for international energy affairs, told National Journal. “For energy-security reasons, we’re interested in having countries like China and India and Eurasian countries develop their own means so they don’t get it from countries of concern for the U.S.”
    [….]
    Environmental groups and people who live in places where hydrofracking has begun say that the process—which is not subject to federal regulation—pollutes water supplies. Efforts are afoot in Congress and at the Environmental Protection Agency to rein in the industry.
    The State Department, meanwhile, sees geopolitical opportunities in the prospect of newly accessible natural-gas resources around the world and aims to make the most of them. By promoting new methods of exploration and extraction, it seeks to make other countries less dependent on imported natural gas. In India and China, in particular, the State Department hopes that new discoveries of gas deposits could replace coal and reduce emissions from coal use.

  86. Netanyahu to Nasrallah: Stay in your bunker

    By JPOST STAFF AND HERB KEINON

    02/16/2011

    “Don’t doubt Israel’s ability to defend itself,” PM says after Hezbollah leader threatens to conquer Galilee.

    Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, at the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations gathering in Jerusalem, responded to Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah’s speech Wednesday.

    “Whoever hides in a bunker should stay in the bunker,” Netanyahu said. “No one should doubt Israel’s strength or its ability to defend itself”

    He added: “Nasrallah said he would capture the Galilee, I have news for you – you won’t.”

    “We have a strong army,” he added. “We seek peace with all of our neighbors, but the IDF is prepared to defend Israel from any of its enemies.”

    Netanyahu also discussed the protests in Egypt.

    “No one knows what the future holds for Egypt,” he said. “In Washington they don’t know, in Tehran they don’t know, and even the columnists in The New York Times don’t know.”

    Netanyahu added that “Israel is interested in a democratic Egypt that will live peacefully with its neighbors.”

    “On the other hand, the leaders in Tehran want to see a different Egypt,” he explained, “that is ruled by Iranians that oppress human rights. They don’t want an Egypt that looks to the 21st century, but one that looks to the ninth century.”

    The prime minister added that an “Egypt that supports Iran will support terror.”

    Nasrallah: The Israelis are afraid

    Nasrallah spoke earlier Wednesday, at a “Resistance Martyrs Day” ceremony.

    “I tell the fighters of the resistance that one day they might be asked to liberate the Galilee,” he said.

    “The Israelis are afraid,” Nasrallah said. “I want to assure you and tell the Israelis that they should be careful because the blood of Imad Mugniyeh will not go to waste.”

    “Gantz came to visit the Lebanon border – welcome,” Nasrallah said, referring to the new IDF chief of staff. “He is the one that was defeated and pulled IDF troops out of Lebanon. You have a completely weak chief of staff.”

    The Hezbollah leader also discussed Israel’s reactions to the protests across the Middle East, citing Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s assessment that the Middle East is “changing in front of our eyes.”

    Nasrallah added that Israel is no longer as confident as it once was.

    He explained that the Middle East’s main problem is “the existence of Israel…that killed and slaughtered, confiscated the lands and kicked people put, with sponsorship from the West.”

    “Israel is the one that expanded toward Lebanon and Syria,” Nasrallah said.

    Speaking to US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, Nasrallah said that “justice means that property should be returned to its owners. In light of such justice, there will be stability in the region. However, searching for justice through peace talks cannot achieve peace.”

    Nasrallah also lamented the relationship between the US and Israel, saying “the US categorizes you in the ‘axis of evil’ if you are against Israel. When an Arab or Islamic system does not give in [to the US] it becomes isolated.” He expressed admiration for the Iranian revolution, that “kicked the Americans out and severed relations with Israel.”

  87. shadowfax,
    Poor little Meggie wasting all that money….poor little thing!!!

    I stand with the workers too, freak the rich ass rethugs….they can learn to shovel their own snow, wipe their own asses and cook their own damn food…freak them!

    We baled out the banks but the poor teachers can’t be unionized….theyve got an education…but you see…most are women…so the money people (rethugs) feel OK freaking them!

  88. ““The reason for doing this is that we think that shale gas can be the kind of game-changer in the global energy market that it has been in the U.S”
    *******
    The jury is still out with shale gas. It may be a financial bubble/scam with cash flow and profits based on the investors (suckers??) The cost of production isn’t really known but it likely to be twice the going rate for NG. The environmental impact is also unknown. In addition to possible ground water contamination from fracking fluid (which often contains diesel oil) the total greenhouse gases produced may be worse than burning coal.

    Here is a recent summary of some issues with NG, especially shale gas.

    “Don’t count on natural gas to solve US energy problems”

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7460#more

  89. TD,
    I’ll ask my new friend…this fracking is what he does…I ask him if he knows whether it pollutes the water…he’ll tell me the truth…he’s a Clinton Democrat…although he voted for Odumbo….that’s a bad strike against him….but at least he hates rethugs as much as I do. I hope Obama doesn’t run again…don’t know if I could stomach someone everyday that votes for that fool….????

    Get this, the money people drilling the gas well today called him and told him they needed to cut expenses, could he live in a trailer at the site instead of at the hotel…he told them he’d retire first…they shut up…no doubt the rethug oil men are getting their second wind….trying to freak all the working stiff’s. There’s only one word that describes rethugs…its starts with a B and ends with a d. LOL!

  90. Mrs. Smith,
    Got a new cell and a new number, I’ll email it to you tomorrow…so watch for it…I’m sorry its AT&T.

  91. Obama Speaks with Forked Tongue on Wisconsin
    February 18, 2011 • 10:21AM

    In remarks that are being played almost everywhere as showing “strong support” for the unions, President Obama told WTMJ Radio in Milwaukee, yesterday, that “Some of what I’ve heard coming out of Wisconsin, where they’re just making it harder for public employees to collectively bargain generally, seems like more of an assault on unions.” But then he went on to say that everyone has to recognize the “fiscal realities,” and that “everybody’s got to make some adjustments.” Like Obama’s budget proposal to freeze the wages of federal workers for the next three years.

    Obama’s duplicity runs even deeper, of course.

    So, Obama’s claiming to support the unions against Gov. Scott Walker, but insists that the government employees have to give in to budget austerity to support the Wall Street fraud and gambling operations [supra-national cartels, actually.]

    Of course, none of this would even be happening if Obama weren’t standing in the way of the restoration of Glass-Steagall, which blocking gave the Republican Party the opening it needed to elect fascist governors like Walker and several more in other states. Blocking the restoration of Glass-Steagall legislation, prevents the Federal Government from providing the states with the support they need.

    Serious as the ‘state government vs the unions’ thought-object, being carefully crafted for viewing and discussion may be, it diverts attention from bloody reality and sets the people fighting among themselves.

  92. Bloody Reality
    – that which big media works to keep the citizens from grasping

    Throughout the entire crisis, in fact, the government has taken exactly one serious swing of the bat against executives from a major bank, charging two guys from Bear Stearns with criminal fraud over a pair of toxic subprime hedge funds that blew up in 2007, destroying the company and robbing investors of $1.6 billion. Jurors had an e-mail between the defendants admitting that “there is simply no way for us to make money — ever” just three days before assuring investors that “there’s no basis for thinking this is one big disaster.” Yet the case still somehow ended in acquittal — and the Justice Department hasn’t taken any of the big banks to court since.

    All of which raises an obvious question: Why the hell not?

    Gary Aguirre, the SEC investigator who lost his job when he drew the ire of Morgan Stanley, thinks he knows the answer.

    Last year, Aguirre noticed that a conference on financial law enforcement was scheduled to be held at the Hilton in New York on November 12th. The list of attendees included 1,500 or so of the country’s leading lawyers who represent Wall Street, as well as some of the government’s top cops from both the SEC and the Justice Department.

    Criminal justice, as it pertains to the Goldmans and Morgan Stanleys of the world, is not adversarial combat, with cops and crooks duking it out in interrogation rooms and courthouses. Instead, it’s a cocktail party between friends and colleagues who from month to month and year to year are constantly switching sides and trading hats. At the Hilton conference, regulators and banker-lawyers rubbed elbows during a series of speeches and panel discussions, away from the rabble. “They were chummier in that environment,” says Aguirre, who plunked down $2,200 to attend the conference.

    Aguirre saw a lot of familiar faces at the conference, for a simple reason: Many of the SEC regulators he had worked with during his failed attempt to investigate John Mack had made a million-dollar pass through the Revolving Door, going to work for the very same firms they used to police. Aguirre didn’t see Paul Berger, an associate director of enforcement who had rebuffed his attempts to interview Mack — maybe because Berger was tied up at his lucrative new job at Debevoise & Plimpton, the same law firm that Morgan Stanley employed to intervene in the Mack case. But he did see Mary Jo White, the former U.S. attorney, who was still at Debevoise & Plimpton. He also saw Linda Thomsen, the former SEC director of enforcement who had been so helpful to White. Thomsen had gone on to represent Wall Street as a partner at the prestigious firm of Davis Polk & Wardwell.

    Two of the government’s top cops were there as well: Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, and Robert Khuzami, the SEC’s current director of enforcement. Bharara had been recommended for his post by Chuck Schumer, Wall Street’s favorite senator. And both he and Khuzami had served with Mary Jo White at the U.S. attorney’s office, before Mary Jo went on to become a partner at Debevoise. What’s more, when Khuzami had served as general counsel for Deutsche Bank, he had been hired by none other than Dick Walker, who had been enforcement director at the SEC when it slow-rolled the pivotal fraud case against Rite Aid.

    “It wasn’t just one rotation of the revolving door,” says Aguirre. “It just kept spinning. Every single person had rotated in and out of government and private service.”

    The Revolving Door isn’t just a footnote in financial law enforcement; over the past decade, more than a dozen high-ranking SEC officials have gone on to lucrative jobs at Wall Street banks or white-shoe law firms, where partnerships are worth millions. That makes SEC officials like Paul Berger and Linda Thomsen the equivalent of college basketball stars waiting for their first NBA contract. Are you really going to give up a shot at the Knicks or the Lakers just to find out whether a Wall Street big shot like John Mack was guilty of insider trading? “You take one of these jobs,” says Turner, the former chief accountant for the SEC, “and you’re fit for life.”

    Fit — and happy. The banter between the speakers at the New York conference says everything you need to know about the level of chumminess and mutual admiration that exists between these supposed adversaries of the justice system. At one point in the conference, Mary Jo White introduced Bharara, her old pal from the U.S. attorney’s office.

    “I want to first say how pleased I am to be here,” Bharara responded. Then, addressing White, he added, “You’ve spawned all of us. It’s almost 11 years ago to the day that Mary Jo White called me and asked me if I would become an assistant U.S. attorney. So thank you, Dr. Frankenstein.”

    Next, addressing the crowd of high-priced lawyers from Wall Street, Bharara made an interesting joke. “I also want to take a moment to applaud the entire staff of the SEC for the really amazing things they have done over the past year,” he said. “They’ve done a real service to the country, to the financial community, and not to mention a lot of your law practices.”

    Haw!

    Hey, we are having a great time here, right?

    All of this paints a disturbing picture of a closed and corrupt system, a timeless circle of friends that virtually guarantees a collegial approach to the policing of high finance. Even before the corruption starts, the state is crippled by economic reality: Since law enforcement on Wall Street requires serious intellectual firepower, the banks seize a huge advantage from the start by hiring away the top talent. Budde, the former Lehman lawyer, says it’s well known that all the best legal minds go to the big corporate law firms, while the “bottom 20 percent go to the SEC.” Which makes it tough for the agency to track devious legal machinations, like the scheme to hide $263 million of Dick Fuld’s compensation.

    “It’s such a mismatch, it’s not even funny,” Budde says.

    But even beyond that, the system is skewed by the irrepressible pull of riches and power. If talent rises in the SEC or the Justice Department, it sooner or later jumps ship for those fat NBA contracts. Or, conversely, graduates of the big corporate firms take sabbaticals from their rich lifestyles to slum it in government service for a year or two. Many of those appointments are inevitably hand-picked by lifelong stooges for Wall Street like Chuck Schumer, who has accepted $14.6 million in campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and other major players in the finance industry, along with their corporate lawyers.

    If such as this were on the evening news regularly, would the people rise up against it?

    Start here:
    http://www.senseoncents.com/2011/02/matt-taibbi-exposes-wall-streets-regulatory-capture-strongly-recommended/

  93. Shit, I forgot…

    As for President Obama, what is there to be said? Goldman Sachs was his number-one private campaign contributor. He put a Citigroup executive in charge of his economic transition team, and he just named an executive of JP Morgan Chase, the proud owner of $7.7 million in Chase stock, his new chief of staff. “The betrayal that this represents by Obama to everybody is just…

  94. It is amazing how the President and other political races can be bought today. You keep thinking that surely someone will come forward and do the right thing. However, I guess the little folk are the only ones that have a conscious, and they are probably scared to death, if they know anything.

    Yet, greater leaders than O have been brought down by the lowlests of people.

  95. Morris’s take on Wisconsin:

    The union mobs have taken to the streets in Wisconsin to protest hotly against having to pay 12.6% of their health insurance (the private sector average is 20%) and 5.8% of their pensions (private sector average is 7.5%). They want us to subsidize them so they can get to be richer than we are! Upward redistribution of income!

    Governor Scott Walker, the courageous, young Republican just elected in Wisconsin also wants to limit teachers union bargaining to wages and benefits, but to leave work rules in the hands of school administrators. His ideas are vital to good schools but outrageous to the entrenched defenders of bad education in the teachers unions.

  96. The mental stumbling block, for most Americans, is that financial crimes don’t feel real; you don’t see the culprits waving guns in liquor stores or dragging coeds into bushes. But these frauds are worse than common robberies. They’re crimes of intellectual choice, made by people who are already rich and who have every conceivable social advantage, acting on a simple, cynical calculation: Let’s steal whatever we can, then dare the victims to find the juice to reclaim…

    To reword the last few words of that report:

    …human dignity and the best of humanity’s heritage, so that our sons and daughters can pass on to upcoming generations a platform upon which to stand, to build and develop our world yet further.

    and to recall the vision of a great President, who, sadly, died too soon, in his 63rd year of life:

    In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.

    The first is freedom of speech and expression — everywhere in the world.

    The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way — everywhere in the world.

    The third is freedom from want — which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants — everywhere in the world.

    The fourth is freedom from fear — which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor– anywhere in the world.

    That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.

    To that new order we oppose the greater conception — the moral order. A good society is able to face schemes of world domination and foreign revolutions alike without fear.

    Since the beginning of our American history, we have been engaged in change — in a perpetual peaceful revolution — a revolution which goes on steadily, quietly adjusting itself to changing conditions — without the concentration camp or the quick-lime in the ditch. The world order which we seek is the cooperation of free countries, working together in a friendly, civilized society.

    This nation has placed its destiny in the hands and heads and hearts of its millions of free men and women; and its faith in freedom under the guidance of God. Freedom means the supremacy of human rights everywhere. Our support goes to those who struggle to gain those rights or keep them. Our strength is our unity of purpose.

    To that high concept there can be no end save victory.

    From Congressional Record, 1941, Vol. 87, Pt. I.
    The “Four Freedoms,” Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Address to Congress January 6, 1941

  97. BigCat
    Spend 160 million dollars to get an office where you can take pensions away from workers making 35,000 a year. Our country’s priorities are so screwed up. Of course Calif is in such a mess because it elected another screwball celebutician/grade b movie actor just like so much of the rest of the country seems to be trying to do.
    ———
    Yup, it is a sad statement that so many vote for someone that looks the way they like instead of someone that will be the best person for the job.

    I think of that many times that I see so many pretty women or handsome men in office that all talk the same bs and act like a herd of sheep instead of leaders.

    I also think the Retugs are wrong to think that Repubs winning the House meant that all voters want them to slash the middle and lower class to shreds and give all the freebie breaks to the rich. Makes me sick.

  98. One of the things I just love about this blog – are all the conversations that go on at the same time. You can pick the one you want to talk about and run with it, or start another.

    It’s like being at a huge party with friends and walking into one circle after another.

    Sometimes feathers get a little ruffled, but mostly we all have similar interests and that’s something when you talk politics and all the bs going on in our country.

    Thank you Admin for giving us this wonderful space, just wished you blogged more with us.

  99. ohanson
    February 19th, 2011 at 12:14 am
    Bloody Reality
    ———————-
    I have seen this very thing in action, with the SEC, the DOJ, and the old Organized Crime Strike Forces. These government attorneys are always on the look-out for lucrative jobs in the private sector, and often they end up getting jobs with the same firms they were investigating, or with the law firms who represent them. There should be a five year moratorium on any government attorney going to work in the private sector and defending any company or individual he previously prosecuted or investigated as a government official. The only exception I would make is for Honest Tom Dachel who is so bloody honest that we do not need to worry about him having a conflict of interest. One look at that honest face and that 1970 gas guzzler he drives when the campaign cameras are running and you just know where he stands.

  100. NewMexicoFan
    February 19th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    It is amazing how the President and other political races can be bought today. You keep thinking that surely someone will come forward and do the right thing. However, I guess the little folk are the only ones that have a conscious, and they are probably scared to death, if they know anything.

    Yet, greater leaders than O have been brought down by the lowlests of people.
    ————

    I wonder how a democracy can exist where only the wealthy can worm their way into office, or sell their soul to the wealthy for backing.

    Good old Abe wasn’t rich, was he?

    We need to change the system in so many ways to get the best person, not the one that raises the most money or is the most successful cheat.

  101. wbboei
    February 19th, 2011 at 1:14 am
    Morris’s take on Wisconsin
    ——————————–

    I confess that not having watched TV for some 20 years, Dick Morris is not a personality I have much familiarity with. So I put the following into Google:

    “hillary clinton” site:dickmorris.com

    I am not impressed. These are the top ones. It goes on and on.

    #
    HILLARY CLINTON GOOFS AGAIN! at DickMorris.com
    15 Feb 2008 …
    #
    FOLLOW HILLARY CLINTON’S MONEY! at DickMorris.com
    11 Feb 2008 … Hillary Clinton’s decision to lend her presidential campaign $5 million raises a key question: Where did the money come from? …
    #
    HILLARY NOMINATION WOULD BE AN OBAMA-NATION at DickMorris.com
    23 Nov 2008 … It is still hard to believe but, if Hillary Clinton’s “confidantes” are to be trusted, Barack Obama is about to appoint her secretary of …(“Neither Clinton nor Obama has spent five minutes conducting any aspect of foreign policy in the past. Neither has ever negotiated anything or dealt with diplomatic issues. It is the blonde leading the blind.”)
    #
    NUTS ON NUKES: HILLARY’S MAD NEW POLICY at DickMorris.com
    21 Apr 2008 …
    #
    IRAN CONS HILLARY ON NUKES at DickMorris.com
    21 Oct 2009 … That Hillary Clinton would allow herself to be conned into believing …

  102. Shadowfax
    February 19th, 2011 at 1:28 am

    One of the things I just love about this blog – [snip only for brevity]

    Thank you Admin for giving us this wonderful space, just wished you blogged more with us.

    ——————————–

    I second that. Thank you.

  103. wbboei
    February 19th, 2011 at 1:15 am
    The American People should vote against ANY candidate who takes money from Goldman Sachs. Period.
    —————————————————————————————————-

    We the people should put the crooks in jail and regulate the hell out of financier gambling with our nation’s future activities.

    At present, things may be so inside-out that a candidate for national office wouldn’t stand a chance without money from the crooks. Take their damned money then prosecute them, I say.

    Then fix the system.

  104. PORTLAND, Ore. — Senior staffers of U.S. Rep. David Wu were so alarmed over the Oregon Democrat’s erratic behavior just days before the November election that they demanded he enter a hospital for psychiatric treatment, a newspaper reported Friday evening.

    The Oregonian, citing interviews with a number of anonymous staff members, reported on its website that Wu was increasingly unpredictable on the campaign trial and in private last fall, and had several angry and loud outbursts and sometimes said “kooky” things to staff around potential voters and donors. The Willamette Week newspaper carried a similar report Friday on its website.

    The fact that the Wu was in the middle of a difficult re-election campaign from his Portland-area district made his behavior particularly worrisome to staff who organized a meeting with the congressman at his campaign headquarters on Oct. 30, with a psychiatrist joining by speaker phone.

    “This is way beyond acceptable levels and the charade needs to end NOW,” wrote Lisa Grove, a senior and long-serving campaign pollster, in an e-mail to colleagues the day of the meeting. “No enabling by any potential enablers, he needs help.”

    Wu was defiant and left the meeting, saying he was going to a movie, sources told The Oregonian.
    …………………………

    and they still let him run…….dereliction of duty to the american people i think by staffers.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41676073/ns/politics-capitol_hill

  105. limit teachers union bargaining to wages and benefits, but to leave work rules in the hands of school administrators.

    ==================

    Well my goodness gracious. Doesn’t he have that backwards?

  106. February 18th 2011 • 4:57PM
    Humor, Culture, News Update

    LaRouche PAC provides you with a necessary warning of what may happen to you (and civilization) if you look to the news media for anything relevant. Two minutes and twenty seconds (video). Highly recommended.
    http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17539

  107. sorry my mistake

    H.R. 1, containing over $100 billion in cuts – the largest in modern history, has passed.

  108. Includes defunding ALL Planned Parenthood services: eg mammograms, pap tests,etc. And defunding contraceptives of course. Great way to prevent abortion.

  109. Dick Morris is a LEECH.He has no doubt sucked a lot of Toes over at Fox.With all the beautiful Blond Heads over there He must work and play for free.He hates Hillary big time.She must have been wearing Her pointed shoes when she kicked him out of the WH.He must be fathering all the Stink Bug Invasion.

    Have a good day All ABM90

  110. I have always felt that admin not only blogs as admin, but under another name. Why should they miss all the fun.

  111. So, why was it we needed a Cap and Trade Tax again? Oh, right, (almost forgot) the elites, led by George Soros could have made billions off the backs of humans causing Global Warming(?) bleeding their anemic bodies dry until their only recourse for generating capital could have been “organ donation”- tsk-tsk!
    _________________________

    U.S. Has Cut Emissions … Without Cap and Tax

    While the federal Environmental Protection Administration is about to impose regulations and taxes on carbon emissions by executive fiat — in the name of stopping global climate change — the United States has already dramatically cut its emissions and probably has already complied with the Kyoto/Copenhagen goals for reduced emissions. And this has been done without taxes, without regulations and without government intervention.

    In 2007, the U.S. emitted 6.12 billion metric tons of carbon. In 2008, emissions fell to 5.92. In 2009, while President Obama was promising that the U.S. would cut its emissions to 5.0 by 2015, the American economy and public — on their own — cut the emissions to 5.5 billion. Most likely, by the time the 2010 measurements are in, we will have reached the Obama goal.

    While many attribute the cut to the recession, which presumably will end sometime, the fact is that emissions dropped before the recession hit and have continued to fall. A big part of the reason is the reduction in the use of coal to generate electricity.

    Coal accounted for 52 percent electric generation in 1996 but only for 45 percent today. In the past 12 months, coal’s share has dropped form 49 percent to 45 percent. Natural gas has almost doubled its share from 13 percent in 1996 to 23 percent in 2009, while renewables have risen from 2 percent to 4 percent.

    Source —- 1996 —- 2009

    Coal —- 52 percent —- 45 percent

    Natural gas —- 13 percent —- 23 percent

    Nuclear —- 20 percent —- 20 percent

    Renewable —- 2 percent —- 4 percent

    Source: US Energy Information Administration

    The free market, free enterprise system has responded to persuasion and incentives like it does in free societies without the heavy hand of taxation, government regulation and coercion.

    These data expose the basic truth: Cap-and-trade or carbon regulation is not necessary to lower U.S. emissions. The government bureaucratic/environmentalist alliance wants these measures to increase public control over our economy, not to fight global warming. Just as the Obama stimulus package was designed to increase public spending, not to stimulate anything, so the environmental regulations are exploiting public concern over climate change to ratify a growth in government power and oversight.

    And that’s the “Inconvenient Truth”!

  112. Tea party ‘don’t want to pay your pensions with our taxes’ versus Unions ‘let us keep our benefits while others go bankrupt’
    Did Wisconsin governor indirectly and unwittingly help Obama?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260065/whos-polarizing-america-stanley-kurtz

    American politics just keeps getting more polarized. Be assured that Obama wants it that way. I argue in Radical-in-Chief that Obama’s long-term hope is to divide America along class lines (roughly speaking, tax payers versus tax beneficiaries). Obama’s attack on the Supreme Court at his 2010 State of the Union address, his offensive against the Chamber of Commerce, his exhortation to Hispanics to punish their enemies, and several similar moves were all efforts to jump-start a populist movement of the left. Like his socialist organizing mentors, Obama believes that a country polarized along class lines will eventually realign American politics sharply to the left. Yet the entire strategy is based on the need for an activated, populist movement of the left. So far, Obama has failed to create such a movement. His expensive economic agenda has provoked a populist counter-movement of the right instead: Obama’s nightmare.

    Now, however, Obama may belatedly be getting his wish. The very success of the Tea Party is calling forth an opposing movement of the left. Obama’s exhortations may have failed to polarize the country along class lines, but his policies have finally provoked the long-sought battle. The once-dormant legions of Obama’s group, Organizing for America, have now been activated. This is the moment they were created for.

  113. #NewMexicoFan
    February 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    I have always felt that admin not only blogs as admin, but under another name. Why should they miss all the fun.
    ——————————-

    I wonder who that might be. I can come up with a list who it is definitely not.

  114. ohanson
    February 19th, 2011 at 2:10 am
    wbboei
    February 19th, 2011 at 1:14 am
    Morris’s take on Wisconsin
    ——————————–

    I confess that not having watched TV for some 20 years, Dick Morris is not a personality I have much familiarity with. So I put the following into Google:

    ——————–
    The mere mention of Morris’s name causes some Hillary supporters to reject anything he says. Personally, I say it is fine to shoot the messenger, but it is a mistake to ignore the message, if it adds new facts to our understanding of the problem. Like you I do not watch television, but I get enough off the internet to stay reasonably well informed. But not always. And this was a case in point. I was under the impression that the Republicans in Wisconsin were demanding the end of collective bargaining, because that is what was being reported by some big media outlets. Thus my comments were directed at defending the institution of collective bargaining which I firmly believe in as a vehicle to resolve labor disputes and provide industrial peace. But after reading Morris, I realized that my understanding of what the governor is doing was wrong. Therefore, I posted the Morris article to set the record straight. According to Morris, the governor’s position would preserve collective bargaining for economic items. That is important. Furthermore, I learned that far from having their health care benefit taken away from them, that governor is simply demanding that they pay 12% of it, while in the private sector the average is 20% and many of us–myself included pay 100% of our health care cost. I know any increase in co pay can be tough on working families. But there are many people who are much worse off. And when government workers are involved, the taxpayers are compelled to pay the cost of health care, whereas when it is private companies, customers who can come and go as they please pay the freight. One is coercive and the other is voluntary. It has been pointed out that the governor cut taxes at the same time increased the co pay for employees. Trumka would say there he goes–typical Republican balancing the budget on the backs of working people. Trumka would say this is unjust and we must increase taxes. In that respect, he will find common ground with a rump group of Republicans including Tom Coburn (R-Ok) and to my shock and awe Mike Crapo (R-Id) who I knew when he was Congressman from the second congressional district. The economic situation must be dire–dire for him to jump over the moon on that one. And I suspect any increase in taxes will be predicated on major cuts in spending. Nevertheless, many working families who Trumka and people of his ilk want to protect, will be equally in jeopardy if they are subjected to major tax increases–they will be driven into bankruptcy because they are sailing that close to the wind. I know some people in that category. And that is why I believe spending cuts must come first and increasing the co pay is a step in the right direction. My background is in transportation, and it is a leading indicator of the economy. When the economy is slow, shipping volume goes down and you have to cut costs. 70% of the cost of doing business for a transportation company is labor–and 90% of station operating cost. Thus, if you are going to cut costs to stay alive, then you must cut jobs. The Teamsters Union with whom I dealt across the country, understood that principle and did not object. It was seen to be a management right, so long as those people were paid what they were owed. Trumpka and his ilk know the facts of life here. You could say he is fighting them because he does not want the camel to get its nose under the tent. But the larger truth is Trumka does not give a flying fuck about his members, he wants to be a player in the national political scene. Let me just say, in the contemporary labor movement he is hardly alone. Where these assholes should have drawn the line is with outsourcing, but they did not. That is where they failed the working class they claim to represent. They rolled over to Wall Street–Trumka included.

  115. ohanson
    February 19th, 2011 at 2:10 am
    If Morris is Dick Morris, and I’m sure it is, he is a thoroughly discredited EX advisor to the Clintons who was finally exposed as a prostitute toe sucking creep. But since all discredited and criminally indicted right wing creeps get a new life on Fox tv, he appears from time to time to spout nonsense, as in his statement posted here.

  116. wbboei
    Read Morris’s statement again on wisconsin. It is so full of hyperbole and spin, how could anyone read it and take it seriously. Add in the fact that he is so partisan that he has no credibility as far as judging a political situation objectively, and you have propaganda.

    Morris’s take on Wisconsin:

    The union mobs have taken to the streets in Wisconsin to protest hotly against having to pay 12.6% of their health insurance (the private sector average is 20%) and 5.8% of their pensions (private sector average is 7.5%). They want us to subsidize them so they can get to be richer than we are! Upward redistribution of income!

    Governor Scott Walker, the courageous, young Republican just elected in Wisconsin also wants to limit teachers union bargaining to wages and benefits, but to leave work rules in the hands of school administrators. His ideas are vital to good schools but outrageous to the entrenched defenders of bad education in the teachers unions.

  117. pm317
    February 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Tea party ‘don’t want to pay your pensions with our taxes’ versus Unions ‘let us keep our benefits while others go bankrupt’
    Did Wisconsin governor indirectly and unwittingly help Obama?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260065/whos-polarizing-america-stanley-kurtz

    American politics just keeps getting more polarized. Be assured that Obama wants it that way. I argue in Radical-in-Chief that Obama’s long-term hope is to divide America along class lines (roughly speaking, tax payers versus tax beneficiaries
    ——————————-
    These forces were in motion long before Obama came on the scene and they have been gathering momentum. He is merely exploiting them to his own personal advantage. To say he is a good man with bad policies as many Republicans do, is to miss the essential point. He is a bad man with bad policies, in the Nietzsche sense of the word. Several years ago, Nina Easton’s then husband Ron Brownstein wrote a book called The Second Civil War in which he sought to describe the forces tearing our nation apart. One thing he did not anticipate at the time was the promiscuous use of race baiting by Obama and his ilk which has created a further divide. It will be very difficult for any leader to put Humpty Dumpty together again after this. But Brownstein’s analysis takes you only so far. Thus, it was the comments of the reviewer who is a liberal which give you the deeper logic of what is going on, and why Obama who cares nothing for this country has managed to exploit it with the business owned and controlled big media.

    “The turbulent politics of the 1960s and ’70s introduced newly ideological perspectives to the two major parties and inaugurated what Brownstein calls “the great sorting out” — a movement of politicians and voters into two ideological camps, one dominated by an intensified conservatism and the other by an aggressive liberalism. By the end of the 1970s, he argues, the Republican Party was no longer a broad coalition but a party dominated by its most conservative voices; the Democratic Party had become a more consistently liberal force, and had similarly banished many of its dissenting voices. Some scholars and critics of American politics in the 1950s had called for exactly such a change, insisting that clear ideological differences would give voters a real choice and thus a greater role in the democratic process. But to Brownstein, the “sorting out” was a catastrophe that led directly to the meanspirited, take-no-prisoners partisanship of today.

    There is considerable truth in this story. But the transformation of American politics that he describes was the product of more extensive forces than he allows and has been, at least so far, less profound than he claims. Brownstein correctly cites the Democrats’ embrace of the civil rights movement as a catalyst for partisan change — moving the white South solidly into the Republican Party and shifting it farther to the right, while pushing the Democrats farther to the left. But he offers few other explanations for “the great sorting out” beyond the preferences and behavior of party leaders. A more persuasive explanation would have to include other large social changes: the enormous shift of population into the Sun Belt over the last several decades; the new immigration and the dramatic increase it created in ethnic minorities within the electorate; the escalation of economic inequality, beginning in the 1970s, which raised the expectations of the wealthy and the anxiety of lower-middle-class and working-class people (an anxiety conservatives used to gain support for lowering taxes and attacking government); the end of the cold war and the emergence of a much less stable international system; and perhaps most of all, the movement of much of the political center out of the party system altogether and into the largest single category of voters — independents. Voters may not have changed their ideology very much. Most evidence suggests that a majority of Americans remain relatively moderate and pragmatic. But many have lost interest, and confidence, in the political system and the government, leaving the most fervent party loyalists with greatly increased influence on the choice of candidates and policies.”

  118. wbboei
    February 19th, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Very clear and understandable eplanation of the political party situation now.

  119. Mrs. Smith,

    First the media says Egypt won’t allow passage, then they say they will, now they say they won’t?

    I think the real message is being missed here. Why is Iran sending ships and war ships at that? Why aren’t media all over this?

  120. Is this the beginning of the end for the US? Scarce and dwindling riches/resources, bankrupting policies, severe divisions along political parties fighting for the scarce resources, lack of leadership to bring about balance and shared sacrifice all lead to conflicts as we have seen all over the world…Obama is probably the worst president for this time in history of the US.

  121. limit teachers union bargaining to wages and benefits, but to leave work rules in the hands of school administrators.

    ==================

    Well my goodness gracious. Doesn’t he have that backwards?
    ——————
    No actually they have got it right. The important thing here is productivity. You can afford to pay people good wages, and you can afford to keep them employed, IF you can use them efficiently. Very often work rules are the culprit. If you can schedule people around the available work, if you can cut overtime, if you can make the workforce more efficient then you may not have to lay people off. Once you lay them off they go their own separate way and you lose all the training and experience you have invested. I know in the age of Obama experience is a bad thing, but in most employment situations it is critical because it drives productivity. If it reaches the point where wages must be cut or people laid off, I favor cutting wages. And if wages are cut then management wages should be cut as well, by an equivalent percentage.

  122. This quote by Nietzsche about the bad man describes Obama:

    “I know my fate. One day there will be associated with my name the recollection of something frightful — of a crisis like no other before on earth, of the profoundest collision of conscience, of a decision evoked against everything that until then had been believed in, demanded, sanctified. I am not a man. I am dynamite. Ecce Homo.”

  123. wbboei
    February 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    —————-

    Only a crook without conscience can whip up a frenzy in the weak minded like he did in 2008 and then not follow through. Because a ‘good man’ will not have that kind of ‘audacity’.

  124. wbboei, Thanks for explaining where you are coming from, and perspective from your real-life experiences. I don’t know any more about Trumpka than Gov. Morris. The only thing “I knew for sure” was apparently the Gov. had threatened to call out the national Guard in the face of peaceful protests. And his hyperbole and exclamation points. Then I googled his name with Clinton

    That and (as I am constantly saying) the fact that the major events of the day are all happening in the context of the collapse of the monetary economic system. This is not a business cycle thing. This is much more.

    Here’s messenger Trumpka’s message:

    We’ve got an idea for these Wall Street wreckers: Instead of tucking billions of dollars away in the pockets of a handful of individuals, how about putting that money toward creating jobs — a few billion dollars can go a long way. Just $8.4 billion spent on transit would create 253,539 jobs — and generate untold positive economic reverberations throughout communities starved for dollars to keep them viable. Just $1 billion would fund the Clean Water State Revolving Fund (H.R. 2847) and result in 27,823 jobs. Another $10 billion would rebuild the infrastructure of our nation’s deteriorating schools and create the jobs to do it.

    Main Street has helped Wall Street — and it’s time for Wall Street to pay the bill to create jobs and fix the economy it wrecked. From March 15-26, the AFL-CIO and our allies are holding rallies and demonstrations at branches of the Big Six Wall Street banks–Bank of America, Chase, Citigroup, Wachovia-Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley–across the country. We are telling the banks: Make Wall Street Pay for Creating New Jobs.

    So-called ‘green shoots’ and rises in stock prices aren’t going to fix our economy. We will not be out of the recession until we are creating good jobs on a large level. We need 11 million jobs to get out of the hole dug by the recession. And we need to make sure this kind of financial crisis never happens again.

    One way Big Bankers can help honestly rather than playing at responsibility is to back a financial speculation tax on securities transactions to curb financial guessing games. A modest financial speculation tax will help curb harmful Wall Street practices — and raise $100 billion to $300 billion annually to pay for job creation. This would go a long way toward creating the jobs we need, and also would help curb churning, high frequency trading and other speculative activity that harms capital markets.

    huffingtonpost.com/richard-trumka/make-wall-street-pay-for_b_500529.html

    That strikes me as more sane than austerity for the workers and teachers.

  125. #
    JanH
    February 19th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Mrs. Smith,

    First the media says Egypt won’t allow passage, then they say they will, now they say they won’t?

    I think the real message is being missed here. Why is Iran sending ships and war ships at that? Why aren’t media all over this?
    _________________________

    Well, thank goodness for that- Seeing the Iranians do have the right to access the Canal by International Law. I believe, the yes, then no approval/un-approvals was a stall tactic allowing the time for the US Navy fleet to maneuver our ships into the most advantageous placement of our ships in strategic areas to preempt any egregious activity the Iranians may have in mind regarding Israel.

    Enterprise Strike Group Transits Suez Canal, Enters US 5th Fleet
    http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=58633

  126. #
    JanH
    February 19th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    And why is obama staying silent?
    _______________________

    Doesn’t he always?

    Sending his message through surrogates, waiting for the final curtain, then coming out strong on the side of the winner-

  127. Read a post on Ben Smith via Drudge which read 12 states considering dropping primaries due to budget constraints in 2012.
    Mass. is the only state referenced in the article. and they say they may not have the money.
    A million questions pop into my mind. When would they have to make the decision? Mass has a democrat gov bambi clone. Waffles is a given so is this an attempt to create dissonance among the republicans. mittens one of their guys but the tea party is passionate. newt praised the caucus system a few weeks ago and celebrated how it enabled this unknown (with the largest war chest in the history of politics) to overcome and triumph.

    Newt knows what happened in Iowa. Yet he celebrates it. Perverse.
    I wish I was back in my own persona dark ages when I thought the d party represented something.

  128. NewMexicoFan
    February 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    I have always felt that admin not only blogs as admin, but under another name. Why should they miss all the fun.
    ——-
    I’ve wondered that too and also who that person might be……..no one seems to fit perfectly though. I laugh when I think of some possibilities.
    😆 Nope, not her, nope, nope, for sure not her, him…nope. Hehehe….

    I also wonder about the ability some have to post in pink blocks, besides Admin……….special powers?

    Another XFile.

  129. I guess it was spaces after the the beginning quote code, and after the last item in the quote before the second quote command.

  130. Morris is dead wrong on this union issue. Wbb, do you have a career as a cop, a fireman, a teacher or staff? Last time I checked, attorney’s made good money.

    If you walk in their shoes, you would know why they are protesting. I have those shoes on and I fully support them, many of us qualify as the working poor and to pay an increase of 12% on health care, along with furloughs and potential layoffs is enough to make paying our rent and buying enough food for our families impossible. Notice I didn’t say, pay our mortgage, for many of us do not own a home and never could afford one!!!

    I guess you can believe Morris if you walk in other shoes and think teachers, cops, and the rest must be wealthy now and should just get back to work and accept their rethug fate.

  131. henry,

    12 states considering dropping primary in 2011
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    I don’t know if its true, but I will tell you without a primary then the party heads will decide who we get to vote for right??? That’s what happened in 2008….the party heads decided who was going to be the nominee. THe new campaign finance law that will allow the corporation’s to decide how much to give candidates will cause the same thing to happen….they’ll decide who the President will be.

    So what I’m getting at is that we’ve installed a Potentate system here in the U.S. and it all began in 2000….when GWB stole the election from Gore….they manipulated the system and now the parties know how to use it and these huge companies did not want Hillary in there worrying about the middleclass and poor people. We are all screwed! Dammit I’ve sold my donkey’s…I had that peasant thing all ready to go….sheat!!!!

  132. I was talking about Dickhead Morris, not Gouveneur Morris. As you can see, Gouveneur Morris was one of the draftsmen and signers of the Constitution. Indeed, he was part of that generation that Chief Justice Marshall described as The Patriots. He represented New York and was by all accounts a heavy hitter within that august group. I would never accuse Dickhead of being a patriot, and too often his political insights are off base. His preoccupation with Hillary is pathological. But in other areas, he puts forth rational arguments. He is convenining a War College on how to defeat Obama in Dallas in April. The cost is $1700, but if you are one of the first to sign up then he will give you a private session of one hour for $5000. He also sells viagra drugs and other things which are helpful to his fellow citizens, because his love of this country has no bounds. Still, I would be hard pressed to call him a patriot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouverneur_Morris

  133. Shadowfax,
    I agree. Teachers, cops and fireman….how will all those rich bastards make it without these people??? I image we healthcare workers will be on the chopping block next.

    Like I said last night…these rich assholes can hire their own cops, fireman, cooks and they can wipe their own asses while they are sick…I guess if they are rich enough they can do that…just like they do in Saudi!

  134. NMF

    At the end of the quote you wish to highlight, you need the forward slash /blockquote at the end of the text.

  135. NewMexicoFan, Shadowfax, we do not “sock puppet”. Sorry. 🙂

    There are no comments from the Pink Cloud disguised with another name. There are some wily comments we sometimes read which have in the past lead us to think there is a “leak” in the Cloud. When it is clear the “leak” is just another very smart comment which hits close we head to the phones for a good giggle.

  136. I was wrong. He represented Pennsylvania. He was born in New York. He and Franklin must have worked closely together. I guess I was thinking of Francis Lewis when I said New York.

  137. Admin – no sockpuppets…….ah, I knew you blog as confloyd. 🙂

    Can you tell me how many are in the ‘cloud’? The ‘we’ is = ?
    I am just very curios…

  138. I agree. Teachers, cops and fireman….how will all those rich bastards make it without these people??? I image we healthcare workers will be on the chopping block next.

    Like I said last night…these rich assholes can hire their own cops, fireman, cooks and they can wipe their own asses while they are sick…I guess if they are rich enough they can do that…just like they do in Saudi!
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    Which is why we have a Second Amendment. God created man, and Smith and Wesson (now defunct) made them equal. It is also why those “rich assholes” are always trying to take away our guns–under any pretext. The mere fact that we have them operates as a deterrent to their totalitarian ambitions. And that is enough to tip the scales ever so slightly in our favor–if worst comes to worst. It is a fact they cannot ignore. It is also a means of personal protection. The people who have guns are among the most loyal in this country, and if there is a threat to our liberty it will not come from them.

  139. I am w/you Shadow on the Union debate-

    My DIL is a teacher and the nurses here are unionized. I hate seeing their bargaining power diminished in any way by not having proper representation during the negotiating process.

  140. admin
    February 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    NewMexicoFan, Shadowfax, we do not “sock puppet”. Sorry. 🙂
    __________________

    Oh dear- I was hoping for something Wild like Wild West, Wild Wolf, or Wild Flowers ho-hum! 🙂

  141. Here’s messenger Trumpka’s message:
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    It is a fine message. But it is like Obama. Just words. The man does not walk the walk. Trumpka is perfectly willing to deal with Wall Street behind the scenes. He has been in key positions for two decades now. He did little or nothing to stop outsourcing. That is the eight hundred pound gorilla that organized labor let get out of the cage. In my book, Trumka is a labor bureaucrat, and a political player. If you compare him to George Meaney who was a trade unionist you will see the difference. I never liked Meaney but I respected him. After him you had Lane Kirkland, then Sweeney and now this guy. It is hard for me to like or respect Trumka.

  142. Shadowfax,

    So I’m unique…well heck that’s the first time anyone has called me that….LOL!

    I’m just an ol’ red neck….one that thinks Hillary is our only chance for this nation to survive. I really like all you guys on here too….the TRUE BLUE Hillary supporters!

  143. Wbboei,
    I agree….I just wished I owned a gun…I have a complete aversion to them…guess I’ve seen what gunshot wounds look like up close and personal. I’ve seen my share of bullet fragments in bodies, but when it comes right down to it…I know enough people who will loan me if it ever comes to that!

  144. I will say this for union people. When I was campaigning for Hillary in Kokomo Indiana, one our our strongest allies was the Association of Federal State and Municipal Employees, as well as the Machinists. I walked down the street from our campaign office, to their operation and watched them in action. I have worked for companies that had world class customer service operations, but I will tell you for a fact, those AFSME people put all of them to shame. It was the best run operation for reaching voters (customers) of anything I have seen anywhere bar none. Union leadmen and union callers–the sychronization, the crispness of their message, the way they handled objections and closed the deal was absolutely positively the best. I would put that group up against any non union or foreign operation here, in India or wherever. They were that good.

  145. Yes Mrs. S. the rethugs take the worst aspect of the unions, the top leaders that give away some of the dues paid by the workers and give it to creeps like Barry, and the Republican party uses that as an example that all union members are alike – how they get a free ride with benefits. That is taking advantage of all the workers and feeding bs to the public.

    The rethugs are the biggest hypocrites, they pay the God card, they play the “we are always picked on and no body loves us” Card, while they store away their money like chipmunks and destroy the working class and send jobs out of the country.

  146. “I am w/you Shadow on the Union debate-

    My DIL is a teacher and the nurses here are unionized.”
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    I have a good friend who teaches 4th grade in an “inner city” school. I can guaran-fuc****-tee you that the rethugs who talk about how well teachers have it, wouldn’t last two hours in her class room. She has taught 15 years in the school district and for the last five they have been trying to get rid of her and replace her with new grads. The fact that, year after year, her class scores at the top of the proficiency exam, means nothing.

  147. confloyd
    I have talked to everyone I know about the Wisconsin situation as I a was born and raised in a steel town. Teachers, Boilermakers, iron workers and even my own 62 year old mother expressed a tremendous gratitude for unions but all agreed that the public service contracts are unsustainable. No way it can continue. Consensus amongst everyone was that everyone who was hired before yesterday under those terms had a valid contract but anyone hired today got what the job was offering. In Pennsyvania the clerks in the state run liquer stores earn 14 to 20 an hour. And can retire with a pension after 25 years. And yet they want to add another three dollar per bottle tax onto a bottle of wine that is already 3 dollars more expensive than a state that doesn’t run the stores. Public transportation seems to be going up about .35 cents per year in Allegheney County even after they added a 10% drink tax to all alcholic beverages sold in the county. And the service is disappearing. Transportation stopping to some of the poorest neighborhoods from downtown around midnight. Dishwashers, buspersons, waiters cannot afford 15 dollar a day cab fares. The city is selling leasing its most valuable properties(parking garages) because if it doesn’t it will default on pension obligations and the state will take over.

    I just want common sense. A bus driver who was earning thirty an hour with full retirement benefits has in my word the right to continue, but we need to start fresh with all new empoyees. Police/fire/emt is a whole different animal.
    Teachers. Different story. Tough job– so are most. But you want to hang on for x number of years and then collect a pension. And then work elsewhere and make money off of the experience and the free continuing education you have been afforded.

    Pensions do for the most part not exist! How can they. My bus fare is now 250 and 167 goes to the entitlements. Great those people worked for it lets give it to them but do not charge me to take a bus to pay for ill-managed/negotiated contracts.

  148. yes…they are Mrs. Smith!

    Of coarse, I would be afraid to shoot it….LOL! I’m an unusual Texan….most are gun toting boneheads…guess I have a little “california” in me….LOL!

    Well Beck is suggesting that there will be riots here….who knows there might be, but my back is too bad to kick up much of a fuss unless they bring out those Burkas….then I’ll turn into a wildcat!

  149. This teaparty is beginning to look alot like regular old rethugs to me…if they want to cut the salary and benefits of teachers, cops and workers…then they are rethugs! Why can’t we cut down some of the salaries of all those Senators and Congressman….lets cut some of their retirement benefits???

  150. confloyd
    I just wished I owned a gun…I have a complete aversion to them…
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    How can you be a good redneck and have an aversion to guns? 😉

    I don’t own one either, I have an Irish temper and a great aim, (whooped all the males asses when the one and only time they badgered me into having a contest with a bb gun that shot like a real gun), I am dangerous with a gun so I don’t own one. 😆

    If I owned one, my ex-husband would be in the ground right now.

  151. bigcatlover, I tend to agree with you here.

    “Read Morris’s statement again on wisconsin. It is so full of hyperbole and spin, how could anyone read it and take it seriously. Add in the fact that he is so partisan that he has no credibility”

    The snake oil, the loaded words, are so thick, that most intelligent readers will drop it very quickly. So then he can say anything he wants to the less critical, who by then will have their brains lubricated by the snake oil.

    wbboei is an exception, being a lawyer and already lubricated by sharp spirit. But still, w, double check anything before accepting it, pls.

  152. “the knish is mightier than the sword!”

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    LOL…Mrs. Smith… If you are talking about the Jewish Knish, then I agree wholeheartedly. My grandmother and mama made the best knishes in the world. 🙂

  153. SHV

    I have a good friend who teaches 4th grade in an “inner city” school. I can guaran-fuc****-tee you that the rethugs who talk about how well teachers have it, wouldn’t last two hours in her class room.

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    No kidding, people like Rove sit on his fat butt on Fox telling bs and wouldn’t last a day in one of the union jobs he thinks is getting a free ride. Put him in a a firefighter for a month and see how well he does.

  154. confloyd
    cuts have to be made
    they are not that extreme. i respect you and have for years but please take a look at what the average teacher in Wisconsin is making before making a decision. Each side will spin so I will hit low middle– Salary and benefits is 80,000.
    Check it out

  155. ‘Clinton threatened to cancel aid to PA’

    While the Palestinians continue to express their anger over the US veto against a UN vote condemning Israel’s settlement construction policy, new details have surfaced regarding the pre-veto discussions. Fatah elements claimed Saturday that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton threatened to halt financial aid should the Palestinian Authority not withdraw its draft from the Security Council’s agenda. Nevertheless, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas stressed that the PA will not boycott the US.

    A senior Fatah element told the Palestinian news agency Sama that Clinton threatened Abbas on Friday to cancel US aid. According to the source, US President Barack Obama told Abbas on Thursday night that no other American president has promoted the Palestinian issue more vigorously .

    Following Yasser Abed Rabbo’s statements against the US and his pledge to take the matter up to the General Assembly, Abbas stressed Saturday that the Palestinians do not wish to boycott the US administration but that they were interested in maintaining their rights and protecting their national interest.

    The Palestinian president described the effort to gain the support of 14 members of the Security Council as a “diplomatic success.”

    Meanwhile, the US administration has taken a series of precautionary steps for fear their envoys in the region will be targeted. The US Consulate in Jerusalem has banned US representatives from entering Jericho, driving on West Bank roads and visiting the Allenby Border Crossing in the next three days.

    A US source said that no violence targeting US envoys in the West Bank has been recorded as of yet.

    Palestinian protest

    Tawfik Tirawi, a member of the Fatah central committee, called for a day of rage to be held in the West Bank next Friday and said the veto had revealed the US’s true face.

    Palestinian outrage was also noted on the streets. “Hateful Obama, the settlements won’t last,” hundreds of Palestinians chanted during a protest in Nablus. Several hundred demonstrators marched towards the separation fence in the Tulkarem area and hurled stones at IDF soldiers. A man was arrested.

    Dozens in Tel Aviv also protested the US veto and carried signs reading “Apartheid Israel” “Stop the US support of the occupation” and “veto the settlements, choose justice.”

    Roni Barken, an activist and member of the international movement to boycott Israel said that the veto is “part of a longtime US policy providing Israel and its criminal policy with absolute support”. He added, “The protest attracts the world’s attention and aimes to pressure the US into aligning itself with international law and consensus.”

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4030816,00.html

  156. The important thing here is productivity. You can afford to pay people good wages, and you can afford to keep them employed, IF you can use them efficiently. Very often work rules are the culprit. If you can schedule people around the available work, if you can cut overtime, if you can make the workforce more efficient then you may not have to lay people off.

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    That may be true in private businesses where demand varies. But this is school teachers. The available work (ie babysitting the kids) is constant.

    I’d take ‘work rules’ here to mean things like teaching to some political theatre rules such as NCLB tests, teachers having to make extra reports, multiple conferences before they can flunk a student, etc etc.

  157. After Long Exile, Sunni Cleric Takes Role in Egypt

    CAIRO — Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an influential Sunni cleric who is banned from the United States and Britain for supporting violence against Israel and American forces in Iraq, delivered his first public sermon here in 50 years on Friday, emerging as a powerful voice in the struggle to shape what kind of Egyptian state emerges from the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak.

    On the same day, other signs of a changing Egypt emerged. The military warned restive workers that it would stop what it declared were illegal strikes crippling Egypt’s economy, declaring “it will confront them and take the legal measures needed to protect the nation’s security.”

    It also allowed two Iranian Navy ships to pass through the Suez Canal — a first since the 1979 Iranian revolution and a move that some Israeli officials called a provocation. Egyptian officials reportedly said the ships did not contain weapons.

    Sheik Qaradawi, a popular television cleric whose program reaches an audience of tens of millions worldwide, addressed a rapt audience of more than a million Egyptians gathered in Tahrir Square to celebrate the uprising and honor those who died.

    “Don’t fight history,” he urged his listeners in Egypt and across the Arab world, where his remarks were televised. “You can’t delay the day when it starts. The Arab world has changed.”

    He spoke as the authorities in Libya, Bahrain and Yemen were waging violent crackdowns on uprisings inspired in part by the Egyptian revolution. The sermon was the first public address here by Sheik Qaradawi, 84, since he fled Egypt for Qatar in 1961. An intellectual inspiration to the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, Sheik Qaradawi was jailed in Egypt three times for his ties to the group and spent most of his life abroad. His prominence exemplifies the peril and potential for the West as Egypt opens up. While he condemned the 9/11 attacks, he has supported suicide bombers against Israel and attacks on American forces in Iraq.

    On Friday, he struck themes of democracy and pluralism, long hallmarks of his writing and preaching. He began his sermon by saying that he was discarding the customary opening “Oh Muslims,” in favor of “Oh Muslims and Copts,” referring to Egypt’s Coptic Christian minority. He praised Muslims and Christians for standing together in Egypt’s revolution and even lauded the Coptic Christian “martyrs” who once fought the Romans and Byzantines. “I invite you to bow down in prayer together,” he said.

    He urged the military officers governing Egypt to deliver on their promises of turning over power to “a civil government” founded on principles of pluralism, democracy and freedom. And he called on the army to immediately release all political prisoners and rid the cabinet of its dominance by officials of the old Mubarak government.

    “We demand from the Egyptian Army to free us from the government that was appointed by Mubarak,” Sheik Qaradawi declared. “We want a new government without any of these faces whom people can no longer stand.” And he urged the young people who led the uprising to continue their revolution. “Protect it,” he said. “Don’t you dare let anyone steal it from you.”

    As the uprising here intensified in recent weeks, Sheik Qaradawi had used his platform to urge Egyptians to rise up against Mr. Mubarak. His son, Abdul-Rahman Yusuf al-Qaradawi, is an Egyptian poet who supported the revolution, and, though Sheik Qaradawi is considered a religious traditionalist, three of his daughters hold doctoral degrees, including one in nuclear physics.

    Scholars who have studied his work say Sheik Qaradawi has long argued that Islamic law supports the idea of a pluralistic, multiparty, civil democracy.

    But he has made exceptions for violence against Israel or the American forces in Iraq. “You call it violence; I call it resistance,” said Prof. Emad Shahin of the University of Notre Dame, an Egyptian scholar who has studied Sheik Qaradawi’s work and was in Tahrir Square for his speech Friday.

    “He is enormously influential,” Mr. Shahin added. “His presence in the square today cemented the resolve of the demonstrators to insist on their demands from the government.”

    Egyptians streamed back into Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the revolution, for a rally that was part prayer service, part celebration and part political protest. State television put attendance at two million.

    A raucous spirit of flag-waving celebration prevailed. Women in full face veils painted their daughters’ faces in the colors of the Egyptian flag. Young men danced to thrumming drum beats on balconies, lampposts and trucks. There were many signs bearing the dual images of a crescent and cross, the symbol of Muslim-Christian unity.

    Many said they had come to remember “the martyrs — the people who gave their lives to change Egypt to a new society of justice and freedom,” as Wael Lotfi el-Said, 39, put it. Vendors sold plastic cups emblazoned with the pictures of the “martyrs” — many now easily recognizable here from posters that have hung in the square and portraits that have appeared in newspapers. The Egyptian Health Ministry has said at least 365 people died in the uprising.

    But many, including Mr. Said, said they were prepared to return every Friday “if necessary” to ensure that the Egyptian military kept its commitment to hand over the government to a civilian democracy as quickly as possible. Many said they worried that the military had not yet clearly ended the so-called emergency law allowing detention without charges or trial. Nor has the military yet incorporated any civilian input into the interim government.

    And many complained that the military had kept most of the cabinet ministers put in place during the last days of Mr. Mubarak’s rule. Mohamed el-Beltagui, a Muslim Brotherhood leader who played a leading role in the square during the protests, pointed at Prime Minister Ahmed Shafiq, a retired general and businessman appointed by Mr. Mubarak. “Can we stop the protests when the government of Ahmed Shafiq is still there?” Mr. Beltagui asked. “No, no, no,” the crowd answered.

    There were signs that the demonstrators had not forgotten their disappointment with what seemed to be American support for Mr. Mubarak until the end of the revolt. Though the demonstrators had returned to remove most of the graffiti around the square, one billboard remained inscribed with a message in English: “USA Admin — we will get democracy with our will. Play your games with the tyrant.”

    By nightfall, however, most politics were forgotten. Fireworks exploded over the square to mark the first week since Mr. Mubarak’s fall, and after midnight the square was still packed with revelers.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/world/middleeast/19egypt.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

  158. That may be true in private businesses where demand varies. But this is school teachers. The available work (ie babysitting the kids) is constant.

    I’d take ‘work rules’ here to mean things like teaching to some political theatre rules such as NCLB tests, teachers having to make extra reports, multiple conferences before they can flunk a student, etc etc..
    *******
    Threatened by parents, expected to make up for total disinterest of the parent in their child’s education, spending their own money for additional school supplies, providing additional food to children who won’t get fed over the week-end..etc…etc…

  159. Salary and benefits is 80,000.

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    Well that is interesting if you find out what is boated as benefits…how much is for Kaiser health insurance? How much is pension that is paid in by the worker and counted as a benefit? How much are sick days that are only earned after working for years?

    Sort of like saying the hospital bill you are sent is the cost of things needed to pay for your being in their bed. The oxygen on the wall that they didn’t use, but had ready for use…that they charge for every person that comes there.

    Look deeper.

  160. An insight from Mr Tarpley:

    Very interesting commentary for an accurate retrospective later on.
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    Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
    TARPLEY.net
    February 18, 2011

    Washington DC, Feb. 18, 2011 — There never was an “Egyptian revolution,” but rather a behind-the-scenes military putsch by a junta of CIA puppet generals who evidently could not succeed in their goal of ousting Hosni Mubarak without the help of a heavy-duty ultimatum from Washington in the night between Thursday, February 10 and Friday, February 11, 2011.

    There is growing evidence that the threat in question involved the seizure or blocking of the Suez Canal, the Egyptian waterway which carries over 8% of all seaborne world trade, which the imperialists tried to grab back in 1956, and from which they would today like to exclude China, Iran, and Russia.

    As for Mubarak, there are strong indications that he was toppled by Washington and London because he opposed the current US-UK plan to organize a block of Sunni Arab states such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the Gulf states — under a US nuclear umbrella and shoulder to shoulder with Israel — for purposes of confrontation and war with Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and their Shiite and radical allies.

    This means that, with the fall of Mubarak, the Middle East has taken a big step on the road to general war. As for the junta, they have now dissolved parliament, shredded the constitution, and announced six months of martial law.

    In the days after Mubarak’s fall, the Anglo-American controlled media chorus chanted obsessively that this was one regime change in the Arab world which had been brought about by the Egyptian people, all by themselves. In reality, the relatively limited popular agitation was actually the least important factor in toppling the long-serving Egyptian rais. Since there was no real mass organization capable of seizing power, and no program of economic reconstruction, development, and reform which could have united the efforts of larger sectors of the Egyptian population, Egypt was left to the tender mercies of the now standard CIA/National Endowment for Democracy color revolution, people power coup, or postmodern putsch.

    According to this recipe, the destabilization was begun by gathering the privileged youth of the upper middle classes — the ones with access to the Internet, Google, Facebook, and Twitter — in Tahrir Square, where, despite their relatively anemic numbers in a city as big as Cairo, they provided a photo opportunity for the Al Jazeera television network, which shamelessly served as the demagogic speaking tube of British intelligence, the former colonial power in Egypt.

    The incendiary role played by Al Jazeera also reflects the strange brinksmanship currently going on in Doha, Qatar, where this network is based.

    As Gamal Mubarak supposedly told US Senator Joseph Lieberman in February 2009 according to a State Department report purloined by Wikileaks, ‘Unfortunately, Qatar is playing “spoiler” in order to get “a seat at the table….” They are coordinating closely with Syria and Iran, Gamal said, “in an orchestrated attack on Egypt and other moderate Arab states.”‘1 Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani and the other Al Thani royals of Qatar may soon find themselves hoisted by their own petard of regional destabilization.

    So it was therefore the golden youth of Cairo who kept up some kind of a presence before the TV cameras , allowing the Al Jazeera agitators and provocateurs to argue that these young dupes, anarchists, and nihilists represented the incarnation of Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s popular will, and therefore the court of last resort for all political decisions regarding the future of Egypt. Sometimes there were only a few hundred young enthusiasts in the square, but for Al Jazeera they were the supreme oracle of what Egypt wanted.

    Egypt has upwards of 80 million people, and the Cairo metropolitan area numbers almost 20 million, but the anti-Mubarak forces had a very hard time ever getting above 50,000 or so — even in the days when they bombastically promised a Million Man March or even a Two Million Man March. Compared to Kiev, a smaller city, in November 2004, Cairo was a feeble effort.

    The gaggle in the square was simply a made for television moment, and its participants — what ever their subjective intentions — were reduced to props, scenery, extras, or walk-on parts at the very most. They hated Mubarak. They wanted the entire regime out. They rejected hierarchy. They wanted transparency. With such a pathetic and primitive level of political consciousness, the mob in the square could never hope to determine events, but was always condemned to become the tool of some organized force which actually knew what it wanted — such as the CIA.

    The mob was not organized, but there were organizations inside the mob. One was the April 6 Movement, which turned out to be a clone or knockoff of the original color revolution vehicle, the Serbian Otpor! of 1999-2000 which had been used by the National Endowment for Democracy to overthrow Milosevic. Apparently feeling the pinch of budget austerity, the CIA had recycled the fist salute logo of the Serbian group directly into the Egyptian one. Other aspects of the mob also reflected the recycled debris of earlier color revolution attempts — the much-vaunted slogan “Game Over” was in fact left over from an attempt to destabilize Tibet in the service of the Dalai Lama.

    A century and a half ago a certain British agent, looking at the London-backed coup of Napoleon III of France, wrote that the tradition of past generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living. Today we would say that the accumulated junk from past color putsches, now recycled by the CIA to save money, is making their discredited destabilization techniques even easier to identify. It is amazing to see intelligent but gullible adults fall victim to the romantic Schwärmerei of The Revolution, even to the point of believing that the emotionally crippled Assange is Lord Byron, or the subversion operative Ghonim of Google is Robespierre, instead of a refugee from the Revenge of the Nerds.

    When the golden youth needed numerical reinforcements, they called in the British Freemasonry known as the Moslem Brotherhood. The Ikhwan provided the big battalions, but also brought public-relations problems. To neutralize these, a propaganda campaign was mounted by a number of CIA alumni, including Bruce Riedel, to assure the US public that there was nothing to worry about.

    It should be stressed that the Egyptian destabilization became quite violent very early on. On Friday, on January 28, protesters committed a massive act of arson by burning down the large office building in central Cairo which housed the headquarters of Mubarak’s political party. It is not known whether there were fatalities on this occasion. Other protesters systematically burned police stations. Several policemen were reportedly lynched by the mob. There was also an armed attack by gunmen on the headquarters of the Interior Ministry, which was repelled after a firefight with riot police. This violence by the shining heroes of democracy was not noticed, much less condemned, by Ban-ki Moon, the European Union, or other guardians of world morality.

    The Anglo-Americans evidently believe that the current combination of the world economic breakdown crisis or depression (complete with rising prices for food and fuel as well as high unemployment and economic despair), plus the presence of a youth bulge throughout the Arab world offers the opportunity of toppling governments like bowling pins, somewhat on the model of what the British did to the Metternich system or Holy Alliance in Europe in 1848, or of what the Anglo-Americans did to the Soviets in Eastern Europe in 1989.

    This time the goal is to overthrow the entrenched authoritarian rulers of the Arab world, among them Ben Ali of Tunisia, who had been in power for some 23 years; Mubarak of Egypt (31 years), followed then by Gaddafi of Libya (41 years), Bouteflika of Algeria (12 years), the Assad dynasty in Syria (about 40 years), Saleh of Yemen (21 years), plus Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and other nations. Some of the more manic denizens of Foggy Bottom and Langley seriously believe that they can ride the current wave of destabilizations all the way to Tehran, Beijing, and Moscow. Continue reading Mubarak Toppled by CIA Because He Opposed US Plans for War with Iran; US Eyes Seizure of Suez Canal; Was this the Threat that Forced Mubarak to Quit?

  161. Maybe all the union workers should just quit their ‘over paid’ jobs and let folks like Rove, Bush and Barry read MY PET GOAT to school children every year or two, and see how well educated our kids will be.

    Let the firefighters walk off their jobs and let the castles the top earner make, burn to the fu@king ground.

    Let the cops walk off their jobs and let the thugs steal all they own.

    Degrade the workers, cut their benefits and wages until they leave those professions and maybe some of them will rally up and run for congress to kick all the freeloaders out that only put in a work schedule that should same any of us. Make the commentators on tv work for 10 bucks and hour with no perks nor freebies either. Spread the damn pain!!!!

  162. henry
    February 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    My DIL is the youngest teacher in her high school. She did 4 yrs in 3 because time was an important factor to her…. (marrying my son)

    In our location in New England, teachers salaries vary from town to town, city to city. In our town, She doesn’t make anywhere near $80K/yr… more like $45K plus benefits. If blanket legislation is passed either by state or federal regs then some will suffer in the process instead of negotiation on a case by case basis.

  163. She doesn’t make anywhere near $80K/yr… more like $45K plus benefits.

    Those are the wages for teachers in Calif. too, and if they claim 45k in wages some how bloats up to 35k in benifits = $80k, someone is cookin’ the books and spinning the situation.

    Union staff workers don’t make any were near 45k unless they are top management, then they might make 50 or 60k. Principles, maybe a little more.

  164. Yes Mrs. S. the rethugs take the worst aspect of the unions, the top leaders that give away some of the dues paid by the workers and give it to creeps like Barry, and the Republican party uses that as an example that all union members are alike – how they get a free ride with benefits. That is taking advantage of all the workers and feeding bs to the public.
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    The Republicans I worked with were not at all anti union. And I was able to arrange union audiences for them–legislative forums was the vehicle. As far as unions go, my premise is that in many cases they have been poorly led–and they have sold out the people they represent. And in some cases, they were controlled by the Mafia. I know this from personal experience. But that does not in any way shape or form diminish the value of unions AS AN INSTITUTION. They can give working people a voice in their work lives, they can make sure they are not disciplined except for just cause, and in a global environment when corporations are hell bent on this race to the bottom, vigorous union representation can protect those workers. The problem is we have not had it. Instead we have had union leaders who talk out of both sides of their mouth. Take Andy Stern of the SEIU. Many of his members are paid minimum wage, while he played politics in the big leagues. Like Trumka he talked the talk, but never walked the walk. I have met the other kind of union leader, and those are the ones the country needs. I had many conversations with union leaders about the dangers of outsourcing and tried to get them to be proactive. It was like I was having to do their job for them they just were not interested.

  165. sorry not been posting, i have a friend trapped in Libya who cannot get out and things are getting really bad, they are trapped in the compound unable to move, apparently Libya is falling, its bad, heard rumours one of Gaddafi’s sons has been captured by opposition protestors and the protests are spreading like wildfire.

    I’m getting really stressed that he cannot seem to be able to get out.

  166. Mrs. Smith
    February 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

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    There are so many statements in Tarpley’s article that shame the world powers.

  167. OMG- moon…

    Tarpley predicted Libya was next because the next take down is Gadaffi! Didn’t think it would be so soon…

    Hearts and prayers for your friend, moon- keeping him safe..

    Keep us posted…

  168. Gallup Poll: Americans Rank Reagan, Lincoln, Clinton As Greatest Presidents

    n a deafening blow to institutional memory, a new Gallup poll asking Americans to rank their favorite presidents finds the nation’s favorite presidents mostly to have lived within their lifetimes, with three of the top five having served during the second half of the 20th century. This year, Ronald Reagan won the top spot, with Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy and, straggling behind, George Washington rounding out the top 5…

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/gallup-poll-americans-rank-reagan-lincoln-clinton-as-greatest-presidents/

  169. Admin
    We??

    I’ve heard all my life what low salaries teachers make and now supposedly, they make $80,000 a year conservatively? Thanks to others for pointing out the obscure ‘and benefits’ included in these figures. Private workers get benefits too, but they are not currently in the crosshairs of the neocons.
    THIS IS CLASS WARFARE. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.

  170. #
    JanH
    February 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    February 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

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    There are so many statements in Tarpley’s article that shame the world powers.
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    from Tarpley’s article:

    “This time the goal is to overthrow the entrenched authoritarian rulers of the Arab world, among them Ben Ali of Tunisia, who had been in power for some 23 years; Mubarak of Egypt (31 years), followed then by Gaddafi of Libya (41 years), Bouteflika of Algeria (12 years), the Assad dynasty in Syria (about 40 years), Saleh of Yemen (21 years), plus Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and other nations.”
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    If his predictions are TRUE.. seems so, Libya’s leader the next to fall.. The tumult in the ME is going to be in the news for months to come. I hope King Abdullah of Jordan is omitted. He has had an amicable relationship w/Israel and has always been a friend to the US. I read that Muslim Extremists were moving on the monarchy calling for him to leave. I hope this is not true.

    As I was reading Tarpley’s article, I was thinking this isn’t the impression that was sold to the world via the media.. His article personalizes the cast of characters in the protests as a well to do
    under 30 crowd giving the impression they are standing up for democracy.

    I thought Egypt troubles were a fluke.. noticing Iran was missing from the list of targeted countries. That we would be waiting for things to settle down in the ME… quite disconcerting…

    If ayatollah al khomeini is a target, which he should be, the Muslim world would instantly be a all the better for it. I read it is him that runs Ahmadinejad..as the mouthpiece of Iran with the intention of ruling the Christian world under Sharia Law….

    I’d sooner see him taken out of the picture than risk innocent lives caught in the crossfire transition…and see how that shakes out.

    I have another article from Tarpley I’ll be posting momentarily.

  171. Some of you posted earlier about teacher salaries and benefits:

    I am a teacher in Minnesota. I make about $52,000 yearly–thats with a Master’s degree and 16 years in the district. The highest salary a teacher can make in my district is roughtly $59,000–thats with 20 years experience and several additional credits past a Master’s degree. Benefits: As a single person, I get my health care paid by the district–teachers wanting family coverage must pay for it (nearly $500 per month). When I retire, I no longer get free health insurance I have to pay for it.

    Money is taken from my paycheck each month for my teacher retirement pension. I also pay union fees.

    One of the things that makes me so angry about the Wisconsin situation is how teachers are being portrayed as greedy, overpaid, and receiving benefits that are somehow grossly unfair.

    I am in my mid 50s–I just completed my masters degree two years ago and will be paying back student loans (including previous ones) for at least 10 more years (over $500 per month). My additional education has made me more valuable in my district and has allowed me to participate in a wide variety of teaching situations. I also have previous undergraduate degrees (for which I get no monetary compensation) that also increase my usefulness to the district as they provide background knowlege and skills that can be applied in my special needs classroom.

    I can’t imagine a situation like in Wisconsin where suddenly, with no debate, discussion or look at the consequences for students, they want to cut teacher’s salaries by thousands of dollars. I realize states are in dire straits, but teachers did not cause the financial problems they are having. I am not against a reasonable debate on teacher unions and teacher’s salaries but to try to ram through legislation in the manner the Wisconsin governor is choosing does not problem solve, does not respect teachers, and only serves to further divide the electorate. It probably won’t solve that states financial problems either.

    We are hearing rumblings of similar legislation here in Minnesota. We are watching this very carefully…I am not astute on all the issues and ramifications of what is going on in our neighboring state but like my colleagues I am getting educated in a hurry…

    On another note: Its upsetting to read comments on websites about how “cushy” our jobs are and how we are paid even though we don’t work in the summer. The reality is that during the school year I work my contracted hours then go home, every single day, and work throughout the evening (until bedtime) preparing lessons, doing special ed. paperwork, contacting parents and grading papers. This extra, non-contract time in the evening is more time doing work related tasks then the time that school is out in the summer. No one is getting paid for doing.

    The amount of teacher hate I am seeing online is truly frightening and sad. What’s going to happen is that the best and brightest will no longer consider teaching as a career and I guarantee that will impact the classroom. It doesn’t have to be this way…

  172. I’m posting Tarpley’s article as written.. We can comment on specifics later because there are players not mentioned yet in his article..
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    Not Dependent Enough: Why the CIA Wants to Overthrow the Existing Arab Rulers

    Webster G. Tarpley

    The goal of these operations is to remove entrenched client rulers who have been in power so long that they have acquired a significant degree of autonomy vis-à-vis the imperial dictates coming from Washington and London, and have grown accustomed to acting to some degree as national rulers, rather than as the pure puppets the CIA and the State Department are always seeking. The Washington consensus is that these multi-decade rulers are not dependent enough on NATO, the International Monetary Fund, and so forth. Washington and London need total kamikaze puppets, who will be willing to take the point in coming confrontations with Iran, China, and Russia.

    One US hypothesis for the future of Egypt is simply a continuation of the existing regime, largely based on the Army, the state bureaucracy, and the security forces, and led by military officers in civilian clothes. But in this case the rulers would be the Suliemans, the Tantawis, or the Annans, or perhaps the Baradeis or Moussas, all much weaker figures than Mubarak. Another possibility is a period of chaos — such as what is happening right now in Tunisia — followed by a seizure of power on the part of the Moslem brotherhood, leading to the creation of a de facto Cairo Sunni caliphate which the US could use to challenge (and consolidate) the de facto Shiite caliphate in Tehran. Both of these alternatives could then be used to support the fundamental US-UK strategy for the Middle East, which is to assemble a block of Arab and Sunni countries (notably Egypt, Saudis, Gulf states, and Jordan) which, formed into a front with the participation of Israel, would collide with the Iranian Shiite front, including Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, and various radical forces. Another possibility is that Egypt and many other countries simply descend into chaos, leaving the imperialists the possibility of intervening to seize selected assets, such as the Algerian or Libyan oil fields, or Egypt’s Suez Canal.

    As a manufactured, synthetic, color revolution, the Egyptian exercise had certain glaring technical weaknesses from the point of view of branding and marketing, which are crucial in such an operation. It had no color or catchy symbol, like the orange of Ukraine, the roses of Georgia, with the cedars of Lebanon. It had no hegemonic slogan, such as the Georgian “Enough!”, the Serbian “He’s Finished!”, the Obamabots’ “Yes we can!”, or the Ukrainian “It’s time!”. They had no charismatic, telegenic demagogue such as the Georgian Saakashvili. The Mubarak regime deprived them of Facebook and Twitter on January 27, and after that Al Jazeera became their main electronic medium, until this channel was shut down as well.

    Mubarak also had strengths and weaknesses. His regime evidently knew that the destabilization was coming, and had taken the elementary precaution of preparing a way to quickly shut down the Internet almost completely. On the other hand, the regime proved incapable of keeping out foreign television correspondents who were little more than destabilization agitators. As the world’s largest grain importer, with much of the grain either coming from the United States or being financed by US food aid under the Camp David treaty, Egypt also has a dangerous vulnerability to use of the food weapon by Washington.

    Mubarak’s two most salient weaknesses can be seen by comparing his response to Iranian leader Ahmadinejad’s successful resistance to the CIA’s Twitter Revolution in Tehran in June 2009. When the NED unleashed its protests, Ahmadinejad was quick to mobilize the basij — drawn significantly from the underprivileged classes — against the CIA’s golden youth and desperate housewives of north Teheran. Mubarak had his equivalent to the basij in the form of the so-called baltagies, but they were not deployed until the destabilization was more than a week old, and then soon retreated after having been shelled by army tanks. The other thing Mubarak lacked was visible international support. When the Anglo Americans made their move against Ahmadinejad, he was able to fly to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit, where he met with Putin and others, visibly demonstrating the falseness of the Anglo-American propaganda line that he was totally isolated. Mubarak, although he got some support from Russia, Berlusconi, and the PLO, was not able to make use of similar options.

    The Egyptian protesters, of course, did have valid grievances — no destabilization is possible without them. Food prices in fuel prices had been rising rapidly, and Egypt’s highly beneficial system of price subsidies for low income workers had been mercilessly slashed over recent years under pressure from the IMF, although it could still provide some degree of protection. Egyptian wages remained much too low. Unemployment was very high, especially among college-educated youth. Many of these problems are of course of the responsibility of Wall Street and London zombie bankers and hedge fund hyenas, and are beyond the purview of the Mubarak regime. Finally, there was a heavy weight of authoritarian repression under the emergency laws which Mubarak had implemented in 1981, in the wake of the assassination of his predecessor Anwar Sadat by the US-UK — with the help of networks inside the Muslim brotherhood, including one led by Zawahiri, later the legendary right-hand man of Osama bin Laden.

  173. One more thing…when you see reports of teachers making very high salaries ($80,000)–this would be from large districts and even then, that salary would be from someone near retirement, with beyond masters degree credits (perhaps even with a Phd). I worked in a district with a Phd. lane (yes, they do exist in some public school districts).

    Keep in mind that most school districts are not large–we do not have anywhere near that type of salary.

    Another note:

    Administrators, however, make a lot of money even in small districts. In mine they make over $100,000. I read yesterday that the superintendent of the Madison school district makes nearly $200,000.

  174. Mrs. Smith and Jan H
    Can you copy your last couple of posts on the new thread. We’re discussing some of these subject over there and your comments will fit right in. Thanks.

  175. AmericanGal

    I will stand up for you and teachers, cops, firemen and hard working American’s any day of the week.

    Thank you for your hardworking service.

  176. American Gal
    Your personal experience as a teacher needs to be read by all too

    Thank you…this is a very difficult time to be a teacher in the midwest. I have family members who are politcally conservative–they are having a field day as they hate teachers and public schools (liberals, overpaid for what they do) and now feel free to vent their views wholeheartedly. It’s hard enough reading the utter teacher hate that is being posted on the internet these days–it’s even harder to be demeaned by your own relatives.

    For what it’s worth—I think most teachers would listen and participate in a reasonable, calm and rational discussion of the role of labor unions in the public sector. I think they would also listen to a reasonable, calm and rational discussion of teacher salaries and benefits. We know there will be inevitable changes happening due to the economic crisis–but to just ram through something without looking at alternatives, formulating a reasonable plan for implementation, or even looking at the consequences for eduation isn’t acceptable. I understand why the Wisconsin teachers are outraged. It makes me sick too…

  177. Moon- I hope your friend gets to safety.
    CNN is covering Libya now (has been) and people are calling in, risking their lives to call with video. People are crying, calling in.

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