Bros Before Hos, TraumPolitik And Obama Versus Hillary Clinton In Egypt, Part I

We said there would be a price to be paid for having a boob in the White House. We stated that American policy must be to prevent interests such as the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Syria, from intervening in Egyptian affairs. We warned that the perils in Egypt were many and that the demonstrations in the streets could take a very dangerous course.

When we referenced Tienanmen Square it was to remind all that in China there was a much much greater outpouring in the streets (recall the Goddess of Democracy?) and even more hope for great change.

At Tienanmen the Chinese people rose up in a year when several communist governments had already been crushed by people power and usually silent Western intervention. In cities throughout China there were uprisings. For seven weeks the demonstrations grew in number and power and the government appeared to be in danger and fearful. Tienanmen Square, usually reserved for demonstrations of governmental power, was occupied far longer than Tahrir Square in Egypt. The People’s Liberation Army, we were repeatedly assured, would never fire on the people. Then in one June night it was over. As PUMA PAC details, violence is a very useful tool.

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Did anyone really believe that Egypt was Czechoslovakia? Did anyone really believe that the Velvet Revolution and the Velvet Divorce which gave peaceful birth to the Czech Republic and Slovakia would be replicated in Egypt? The question in Egypt always was how violence would break out and who would employ violence first. Mubarak has been the first to covertly throw the first stone, but there should be no delusion that the stones would fly sometime.

The New York Times yesterday published a very rosy scenario for Egypt and a lovely portrait of the Muslim Brotherhood. It is an Op-ed article called “Egypt’s Bumbling Brotherhood”. We hope the op-ed piece is on target. In the op-ed article we are told that Americans and Europeans have little or nothing to fear as to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. The article states that the Muslim Brotherhood has tried to get power in Egypt but that “in 83 years it has botched every opportunity”. We are told the Muslim Brotherhood is “marginal” to the “spirit of revolt” in today’s Arab world.

The op-ed further tells us that “The error was compounded when the Brotherhood threw in its lot with Mohamed ElBaradei” because ElBaradei only impresses fools in the West. The op-ed tells us that the Muslim Brotherhood has forsworn violence, has a rivalry with Al Qaeda, is too centrist for real radicals, is against Israel but Egyptians don’t want that, and:

“What we are seeing in Egypt is a revolt led by digitally informed young people and joined by families from all rungs of society. Though in one sense it happened overnight, many of its young proponents have long been working behind the scenes, independent of the Brotherhood or any old guard opposition.”

The op-ed ends with this:

“But there is little reason for the United States to fear a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood. If Egypt is allowed to find its own way, as it so promisingly began to do over the past week, the problems of violent extremism and waves of emigration that America and Europe most fear from this unhappy region could well fade as its disaffected youth at last find hope at home.”

Let’s hope against hope that the op-ed is absolutely correct in it’s assessments. Our fingers are crossed and our prayers are directed towards our total humiliation and the triumph of the analysis in that op-ed. We hope we are totally wrong, that the Egyptian events are a true wave of democracy and that all the region’s dictators will be sent packing and that soon we will hear celestial choirs and a democratic wave of peace and wonderfulness and pie. We hope for all that, but we don’t think so. We remember that “bros before hos” Obama T-shirt.

We think that op-ed is demented. It is as demented as those who think that if Mubarak leaves all will return to normal and that Egypt has no role for the United States to play. This type of personality driven analysis (“Mubarak is the problem”) and foolish traumpolitik which suggests that countries are somehow isolated and therefore the United States has no role in Egypt are the opposite of what we suggest – a coldblooded realpolitik analysis of American interests.

That New York Times op-ed nonsense was followed today by an article in the news section of the New York Times called “As Islamist Group Rises, Its Intentions Are Unclear”:

“After maintaining a low profile in protests largely by secular young Egyptians, the Muslim Brotherhood, the country’s largest opposition force, appeared to be taking on a more assertive role Thursday, issuing a statement asking for President Hosni Mubarak to step aside for a transitional government. [snip]

But one of the few near-certainties of a post-Mubarak Egypt is that the Muslim Brotherhood will emerge as a powerful political force.

The unanswered question, according to experts on the region, is whether that will prove a manageable challenge for the United States and Israel or a catastrophe for American interests in the Middle East. [snip]

Mr. Hamid said the Muslim Brotherhood’s deep hostility to Israel — which reflects majority public opinion in Egypt — will pose difficulties for American policy. Its conservative views on the rights of women and intolerance of religious minorities are offensive by Western standards.”

“Bros before Hos” – after all it is not the Muslim Sisterhood. Those that advocate a role for the Muslim Brotherhood are spouting nonsense for whatever reason. “’Yes, in their heart of hearts, they hate Israel,” Mr. Hamid said”. They also have a fear and hatred of women and will not tolerate other religious belief systems – or atheists for that matter.

In that news article, as opposed to the traumpolitik op-ed, we are informed that the Muslim Brotherhood has renounced violence but only “as a means of achieving power in Egypt”. We are enlightened that:

The group did not, however, reject violence in other circumstances, and its leaders have endorsed acts of terrorism against Israel and against American troops in Iraq.”

Is that clear enough? Not for George Soros. George Soros blames Israel for the problems in Egypt. George Soros thinks the Muslim Brotherhood and Mohamed ElBaradei are just ducky. According to Soros the Muslim Brotherhood will play a “constructive role” and “The main stumbling block is Israel.”

Democrat Kirsten Powers joins us in warning about the Muslim Brotherhood and the traumpolitik delusions many in the left are engaged in:

When the protests first began in Egypt, I was in constant contact with an Egyptian relative who is a successful businessman, university professor and astute student of world politics. As my husband and I panicked for our family’s safety, this relative was calm, assuring me that Hosni Mubarak would appoint an interim government and that there would likely be an important role for Omar Suileman, who is a well respected leader in Egypt. Both these things quickly came true. Day after day he assured me that everything would be fine. He was sure that the Muslim Brotherhood—which he regards as a radical Islamist group – was not organized enough to gain any significant power.

Today, he was not so calm. Our family in Egypt is shocked and alarmed by what they are hearing from Western voices and even the apparent leading opposition candidate Mohamed ElBaradei—who has partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood — who claim that the Brotherhood is a moderate group that should not be feared.

As Coptic Christians—native Egyptians who comprise the largest religious minority in the Middle East—they are especially attuned to the double-speak of Islamist groups trying to attain power.

During the last elections, the Brotherhood’s slogan was “Islam is the solution.” Its logo is a black flag with a sword and the Koran.

This reminded me of a trip my husband and I made to Saudi Arabia last year. While driving in from the airport we passed a gigantic statue of a gold sword. I asked our guide what the inscription said, and he told me that it was from the Koran and translated to, “Sometimes the sword is better than words.”

Powers is sure to be accused of Muslim bashing. But Powers is engaged in looking reality in the face and reporting the results of that experience. No doubt there are many Muslims and Arabs engaged in the protests in Egypt who just want to live their lives and be the equivalent of “cafeteria Catholics”. This type of Catholic accepts the basic tenets of Catholicism but rejects certain aspects of church teaching (such as on abortion).

“Cafeteria Muslims” who also want to live their lives and not live by the sword are the ones we cheer on. But there are certain well funded, well organized Muslims who indeed do want to live by the sword.

Our politics, in regard to the various strains and elements in the Arab/Muslim world, should be guided by reality – not by dreams and hopes. It is realpolitik versus traumpolitik, or dream politics.

Kirsten Powers gazes in wonder at the traumpolitik dementia at Brookings and segments of the left:

“I spent much of yesterday interviewing American experts on the region—including two Brookings Institution scholars who are experts on the Muslim Brotherhood—and was reassured over and over that the organization has reformed and does not seek to establish a fundamentalist state. One claimed that Brotherhood officials have said they view Copts as equal citizens.

My relative laughed at this. He says when Brotherhood members have been asked about how they would treat Christians they are vague. When asked about whether they would nationalize the banks, they are vague. Even one of the Brookings scholars told me that the Brotherhood would probably segregate the sexes. This is far from a secular group.

Our family in Egypt always makes the point that if the current regime—which is considered moderate and quasi-secular—arrests people who convert from Islam to Christianity, what do you think it will be like if power is seized by a group that has as its explicit goal the spread of Islam?

One of the things I consistently hear from the Egyptian Christians I know is that Islamists know the right things to say in order to gain power. They are sophisticated. They are especially astute at telling Westerners what they want to hear.”

Egypt is to be considered “liberal” in the Arab world. Powers describes the daily oppressions in Saudi Arabia even as guides parrot words about how things are growing more liberal and open – in a society that cuts men’s hair on the street if it is too long and death is the reward for conversion from Islam. Yet many in the West, many liberals, many women “progressives” think we in the West have to embrace the oppressors.

Powers discusses Shadi Hamid, who we discussed above, of Brookings:

“Shadi Hamid, a Brookings Institute scholar and expert on the Muslim Brotherhood (which he maintains is not radical) made the case to me that Egypt is a very Islamic country, and if the people want an Islamic government that is their choice. It’s not for the U.S. to decide.

As a liberal, I have a very hard time with the idea that I’m not supposed to care about a potential government that is oppressive to minorities and women. I also do not support theocracies—Muslim, Christian or otherwise even if they aren’t fundamentalist. If find it strange that so many American liberals aren’t concerned about the Muslim Brotherhood’s stated mission to “spread Islam.” It’s hard to imagine them being so unconcerned about a Christian political group with the stated mission of establishing a Christian theocracy gaining power in a new government.

If the Muslim Brotherhood wants to evangelize Islam on its own time that is fine; but it shouldn’t be able to use government power to do so. I should also note that it is already against the law for Christians to share their faith in Egypt—and that’s under a quasi-secular government. (Human Rights Watch last year accused Egypt of “widespread discrimination” against Christians and other religious minorities.)

This isn’t to say that Mubarak deserves our support. He’s an oppressive dictator. But all the Americans who are supporting the participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in the new government need to understand who they really are. Beyond my own personal concern for the treatment of Christians and women, fundamentalist Islamic governments generally aren’t known for being pro-American.

I shared with my Egyptian relative that most experts I spoke to here believe that Turkey is the model that Egypt will follow.

Again, laughter.

It is disgusting that many American liberals don’t understand, or pretend not to, what is happening in Egypt and the threat of the Muslim Brotherhood and allies. Like the American left who shamed themselves with support for Stalin and oppressive communist regimes the present day is littered with these fake liberals and loathsome fake progressives. Many writers and critics in the left who denounce Christianity regularly and applaud atheism then turn their heads and pretend they just do not see as systems of oppression against women are implemented in Muslim/Arab countries.

Those “liberals” who think that Egypt should be abandoned or allowed to do whatever it wants are fools. The American revolution was a product of direct intervention by France. The destruction of the “Evil Empire” was accomplished by a strong Pope who used Vatican power to end the Soviet domination of the East. It is rare that counties have revolutions or changes in power without intervention of outside forces.

The idiot left wants American intervention in places like Sudan but want hands off in countries like Egypt which could determine oppressions for generations if not centuries to come. The threat of an “Iron Veil” from Northern Africa through the Middle East and beyond is an ugly possibility. To say “it’s their country” is an abdication of reality.

The idiot left also has those attention seekers whose entire knowledge comes from attending conferences hosted by other members of the idiot left who blame Israel for everything. It is a noxious Judenrein viewpoint that states Israel should not exist because the Jews in their homeland are the problem (“The “Zionist experiment” and Pres. Harry Truman’s risks finally proved a bridge too far in a hostile region where Israel stands alone.”)

“Zionist experiment” indeed. These PINO’s and their Hausfrau affiliates want to blame Israel for everything bad in the Middle East. These PINOs and their Hausfrau affiliates ignore reality and engage in traumpolitik delusions.

Egypt, as we have written from the outset is not just an inning, it is the ballgame. The ballgame is not going well.

Hosni Mubarak has not forgotten the lessons of Tienanmen and reporters are getting beaten up and the people shut up. As the fighting begins in Tahrir Square Mubarak told the truth about Obama: He does not understand. Or is it that Obama is too busy worrying about reelection, continuing the war on Hillary Clinton, and pretending he really truly cares about being a Christian?

It’s bound to get worse.

Next: The war on Hillary Clinton; Hosni Mubarak; and the battle for the future.

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707 thoughts on “Bros Before Hos, TraumPolitik And Obama Versus Hillary Clinton In Egypt, Part I

  1. This is a repost from the previous thread:

    BCL, Yes my hot water pipes is still frozen, I am heating my bath on the stove…I love it too, LOL!

    For all of those who want to know Odumbo’s idea of the middle east here it is by the real Potus….

    Why Obama has to get Egypt right

    By George Soros
    Thursday, February 3, 2011

    Revolutions usually start with enthusiasm and end in tears. In the case of the Middle East, the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. Although American power and influence in the world have declined, our allies and their armies look to us for direction. These armies are strong enough to maintain law and order as long as they stay out of politics; thus the revolutions can remain peaceful. That is what the United States should insist on while encouraging corrupt and repressive rulers who are no longer tolerated by their people to step aside and allow new leaders to be elected in free and fair elections.

    That is the course that the revolution in Tunisia is taking. Tunisia has a relatively well-developed middle class, women there enjoy greater rights and opportunities than in most Muslim countries, and the failed regime was secular in character. The prospects for democratic change are favorable.

    Egypt is more complex and, ultimately, more influential, which is why it is so important to get it right. The protesters are very diverse, including highly educated and common people, young and old, well-to-do and desperately poor. While the slogans and crowds in Tahrir Square are not advancing a theocratic agenda at all, the best-organized political opposition that managed to survive in that country’s repressive environment is the Muslim Brotherhood. In free elections, the Brotherhood is bound to emerge as a major political force, though it is far from assured of a majority.

    Some have articulated fears of adverse consequences of free elections, suggesting that the Egyptian military may seek to falsify the results; that Israel may be adamantly opposed to a regime change; that the domino effect of extremist politics spreading to other countries must be avoided; and that the supply of oil from the region could be disrupted. These notions constitute the old conventional wisdom about the Middle East – and need to be changed, lest Washington incorrectly put up resistance to or hesitate in supporting transition in Egypt.

    That would be regrettable. President Obama personally and the United States as a country have much to gain by moving out in front and siding with the public demand for dignity and democracy. This would help rebuild America’s leadership and remove a lingering structural weakness in our alliances that comes from being associated with unpopular and repressive regimes. Most important, doing so would open the way to peaceful progress in the region. The Muslim Brotherhood’s cooperation with Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who is seeking to run for president, is a hopeful sign that it intends to play a constructive role in a democratic political system. As regards contagion, it is more likely to endanger the enemies of the United States – Syria and Iran – than our allies, provided that they are willing to move out ahead of the avalanche.

    The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves. Fortunately, Obama is not beholden to the religious right, which has carried on a veritable vendetta against him. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community. The main danger is that the Obama administration will not adjust its policies quickly enough to the suddenly changed reality.

    I am, as a general rule, wary of revolutions. But in the case of Egypt, I see a good chance of success. As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East. I hope President Obama will expeditiously support the people of Egypt. My foundations are prepared to contribute what they can. In practice, that means establishing resource centers for supporting the rule of law, constitutional reform, fighting corruption and strengthening democratic institutions in those countries that request help in establishing them, while staying out of those countries where such efforts are not welcome.

  2. Great piece, admin.

    I, too, find it strange that liberals are so eager to embrace any form of islamist theocracy. I listen to commentators talking about the MB and other “moderate” organizations and actually mentioning, almost as an afterthought, (paraphrase) “Women would have some restrictions, but other than that they are very reasonable…”

    As if this is acceptable. As if so long as they aren’t oppressing most men overly much, the fact that they would oppress women, or Jews, or Christians is merely an easily overlooked peccadillo of sorts, not anything of importance. I find that sort of thinking being so easily absorbed by the left to be frankly disgusting, and frightening.

  3. “World food prices rose to a record high in January, according to the UN’s Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO).

    The FAO Food Price Index, which measures the wholesale price of basic foods within a basket, averaged 231 points last month – its highest level since records began in 1990.

    It was up 3.4% from December, the seventh monthly rise for the index.
    (snip)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12354402

    If this continues, more world political destabilization is on the way…

  4. SHV,
    I think that is part of the plan….

    Here I am at work waiting for the darn snow, it pretty close…I just love waiting on stuff like this, LOL!

  5. Crony Capitalism Or Raw Corruption?

    Favoritism: It’s good to have friends in high places. Last month, the White House issued tough new rules on CO2 emissions. This month, its biggest corporate supporter wins an exemption. Something smells here.

    This has become a pattern for this administration: Impose costly new regulations on the economy, then let some corporations and unions avoid them.

    That’s just what happened in California, with the so-called Avenal Energy project. That badly needed energy plant uses two natural gas-fired General Electric 7FA gas turbines and one General Electric steam turbine to generate electricity. Under the EPA’s tough new rules, the Avenal project wasn’t going to be built.

    Don’t get us wrong: We support the project. The nation needs energy. We just don’t like how the White House seems to play favorites with who gets exemptions and who doesn’t.

    “Maybe GE CEO Jeff Immelt’s closeness to President Obama, and his broad support for Obama’s agenda, had nothing to do with this exemption,” the WashingtonExaminer.com pointed out. “But we have no way of knowing that.”

    Or maybe we do. Immelt heads Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. According to Washington Examiner writer Tim Carney, GE has spent $65.7 million lobbying the White House — more than any other company. Given the White House record over the past two years, it’s reasonable to assume it’s playing favorites.

    It isn’t just the new regulations issued by the Environmental Protection Agency, either. The EPA rules are just the most recent case.

    Under Obama’s Affordable Care Act, some 773 companies and unions — big contributors to the Obama cause — now have exemptions from the overhaul’s costliest provisions, affecting an estimated 2 million workers.

    What does that matter, you ask? Well, those companies and their unions now get to operate at a competitive advantage to their would-be competitors, both foreign and domestic. How fair is that?

    The answer, of course, is not very. Things have gotten so bad that liberal blogger Mickey Kaus has called for investigations of this unsavory corporatist trend by the White House. “Shouldn’t Republicans hold hearings on the general threat of Putin-like corporatism — i.e., an insidious alliance between big government and favored corporate and labor interests?” he asked in a blog post last month.

    We think the answer is yes. Maybe Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, new chairman of the House Budget Committee, would be the man to do it. As he noted recently, crony capitalists “get ahead through subsidies, special tax breaks, regulatory favors and other forms of political favoritism.” And he wants it stopped.

    The insidiousness of this is obvious. First, make businesses and their owners totally dependent on the whims of bureaucrats. Then, make them beholden to you — partners, if you will, in the corruption of government favoritism.

    This distorts markets and makes our economy less efficient. It also makes all of us a lot less free.

    Think also of the Chevy Volt, which couldn’t exist in a free market. It’s a child of subsidies paid to government and union-controlled and owned General Motors Corp.

    How about ethanol? We now use something like 40% of all our corn for fuel, even as food prices soar to record highs. Big agriculture companies, which give millions in political contributions each election cycle, are no doubt grateful.

    Those in the private sector who get bailed out, subsidized or co-opted have a funny way of ending up working in the administration, overseeing the very industries in which they once worked. As Conn Carroll of the Heritage Foundation has noted, the Obama White House in just the last two months has:

    • Sent budget director Peter Orszag to Citibank (recipient of a $306 billion bailout).

    • Taken Gene Sperling as National Economic Council director from Goldman Sachs (beneficiary of the $173 billion AIG bailout).

    • Added Bill Daley, former Fannie Mae ($135 billion bailout so far) lobbyist and JPMorgan ($12 billion bailout) executive” as President Obama’s chief of staff.

    Bailouts, exemptions, subsidies — all of this tilts the playing field in favor of political cronies and away from the rough-and-tumble competition that free-market capitalism requires. It’s yet another reason why businesses have stopped investing and hiring.

    Congress should put this on the ever-lengthening list of things that this administration has done that now need to be undone.

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/562088/201102031859/Crony-Capitalism-Or-Raw-Corruption-.htm

  6. hmmm…

    US to Jewish leaders: We won’t recognize Muslim Brotherhod

    By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, JPOST CORRESPONDENT
    04/02/2011

    WASHINGTON – The White House is seeking to reassure Jewish leaders concerned about the turmoil in Egypt, telling them in a conference call late Wednesday that US policy is not to deal with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Many in the pro-Israel community have been concerned that the waning position of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his regime will empower the Muslim Brotherhood and are fearful that the US could contribute to its rise by viewing the Islamic group as a legitimate Egyptian political player.

    On Monday, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that “it is clear that increasing democratic representation has to include a whole host of important non-secular actors,” and since then US officials have given varying signs on their openness to seeing the Muslim Brotherhood take part in a coalition government.

    At the same time, the US has increased its calls for Mubarak to oversee a transition immediately, and for the installment of a widely representative democratic governance system.

    On a call to Jewish organizational officials, senior Middle East National Security Council adviser Dan Shapiro said US policy is not to deal with the Muslim Brotherhood, which has ties to Hamas, a US-designated terrorist organization, according to participants in the off-therecord call.

    But Shapiro also indicated that the US would not dictate the composition of the next Egyptian government.

    Martin Indyk, a former US ambassador to Israel and now the vice president of the Brookings Institution, pointed out that America’s options for dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood are limited given its strong role in the Egyptian political scene, and that its participation in a new government in some capacity might be inevitable.

    “It’s a very risky proposition, but that’s the world that we now live in, in which the Muslim Brotherhood is a powerful [institution], and it will be extremely difficult to exclude it from the political process,” he said.

    Shadi Hamid, director of research at the Brookings Doha Center, who joined Indyk in a discussion on the Egyptian turmoil Thursday, said that while the Muslim Brotherhood would pose challenges to the US given its stance on the peace process, counter-terrorism, minority rights and other issues, right now the group is planning to have a low political profile.

    “Up until now the Brotherhood has played a very limited role. They have not been very visible in the protests, but that’s by design,” he said. “The Brotherhood is well aware that if they have a prominent role, this will stoke the fears of the international community and particularly the US, so the Brotherhood is sensitive about that.”

    The group does plan to become more active but is emphasizing that it doesn’t plan to take a leadership role and will instead support a coalition led by Mohamed ElBaradei, the former UN International Atomic Energy Agency head, according to Hamid.

    Some members of the Brotherhood have been so concerned about a backlash that they have made a statement to “allay some fears,” saying they would abide by the peace treaty with Israel, Hamid added. He noted, however, that many question the sincerity of such statements.

    “I think we have to recognize that they aren’t extremists like in Iran or elsewhere. In terms of what their objectives are here, they aren’t going to try to win an election even if they could,” he said, suggesting that the group instead would focus on rebuilding the organization after years of repression. “They are aware this would either provoke the regime or provoke the international community.”

    http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=206712

  7. “We think that op-ed is demented.”

    Thank God, I was starting to get bewildered. I have been troubled all day – not that anything I think has any impact on Egypt, but still.
    My thoughts on what is going on in Egypt are starting to diverge from what I am being told is going on in Egypt. I don’t know if I am right or wrong. And again, what I think has no impact on the people of Egypt except for what my prayers can do. I do want the best for them as we all do.

    Think how many times we have been stampeded, the Irak war, Bushes bail out (too big to fail), Obama’s bail out, the patriot act. I am sick of it, and that makes me sympathetic to Mubarak when he says slow down. I just heard Bolton talk sense, he says rushing an election in Egypt benefits the MB.

  8. ”Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose”.

    1. Wikipedia: In 1958, a NEW YORK TIMES reporter, Herbert Matthews, came to interview Castro in the Sierra Maestra, attracting interest to Castro’s cause in the United States. The New York Times front page stories by Matthews presented Castro as a romantic and appealing revolutionary, bearded and dressed in rumpled fatigues.[38][39] Castro and Matthews were followed by the TV crew of Andrew Saint George, said to be a CIA contact person.[40] Through television, Castro’s rudimentary command of the English language and charismatic presence enabled him to appeal directly to a U.S. audience.

    In 1957, Castro also signed the Manifesto of the Sierra Maestra [41] in which he agreed to call elections under the Electoral Code of 1943 within the first 18 months of his time in power and to restore all of the provisions of the 1940 Constitution of Cuba that had been suspended under Batista. While he took steps to implement some of the measures in the Manifesto upon coming into power, Cuba failed to have elections, the most important part of the program, within time.

    In February 1958, Castro published in Coronet Magazine a famous statement of the goals of the movement.[42] He stated that “we are fighting to do away with dictatorship in Cuba and to establish the foundations of genuine representative government” and promised to “prepare and conduct truly honest general elections within twelve months” after success. He also stated, “we have no plans for the expropriation or nationalization of foreign investments here”. He also justified his attacks on Cuba’s economy as the only way to bring down the Batista dictatorship. Despite his denouncement of dictatorships, Castro himself has been described as a dictator.[43][4)

    2. Admin: Yesterday, THE NEW YORK TIMES published a very rosy scenario for Egypt and a lovely portrait of the Muslim Brotherhood. (snip) In the op-ed article we are told that Americans and Europeans have little or nothing to fear as to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. The article states that the Muslim Brotherhood has tried to get power in Egypt but that “in 83 years it has botched every opportunity”. We are told the Muslim Brotherhood is “marginal” to the “spirit of revolt” in today’s Arab world.

    The op-ed further tells us that “The error was compounded when the Brotherhood threw in its lot with Mohamed ElBaradei” because ElBaradei only impresses fools in the West. The op-ed tells us that the Muslim Brotherhood has forsworn violence, has a rivalry with Al Qaeda, is too centrist for real radicals, is against Israel but Egyptians don’t want that, and:

    “What we are seeing in Egypt is a revolt led by digitally informed young people and joined by families from all rungs of society. Though in one sense it happened overnight, many of its young proponents have long been working behind the scenes, independent of the Brotherhood or any old guard opposition.”

    The op-ed ends with this:

    “But there is little reason for the United States to fear a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood. If Egypt is allowed to find its own way, as it so promisingly began to do over the past week, the problems of violent extremism and waves of emigration that America and Europe most fear from this unhappy region could well fade as its disaffected youth at last find hope at home.”

    3. Conclusion: NEW YORK TIMES is seldom right but never in doubt when it comes to these sorts of things. There is something in their left wing genetic make-up which predisposes them to romanticize the leaders of these revolts, rather than taking a cold pragmatic approach to the individual and what he will actually do when hie comes to power.

  9. by John Hammer
    no background in international diplomacy, other than the fact that Clinton had tea with the spouses while the heads of state discussed matters of international concern.

    ==============

    So much for his credibility.

    /scrolling on past/

  10. Southern born – I think this is it:

    Go back to the last post, down to a comment by basil at 5:59 – an article by John Hammer

  11. Southern, Hammer is a writer that BAsil quoted in the previous thread.


    basil9
    February 3rd, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Here’s an interesting take on the BO-MB connection from rhinotimes.

    Under the Hammer

    John Hammer image
    by John Hammer

    write the author

  12. Well, I went ahead a drove home, which now I’m glad I did..since my pipes thawed out and I have a leak somewhere, so I managed to dry out the new cabinets and put towels and a pan in there before the cabinet got damaged…

    I hope I can get back to work tonight….oh well if I can’t!

  13. A very good read, admin, and I focus on this statement pulled from your post: One of the things I consistently hear from the Egyptian Christians I know is that Islamists know the right things to say in order to gain power
    —————————
    Makes perfectly clear why the Chameleon in Chief is going to such great lengths in the past few days to affiliate himself with Christianity. I offer no links as I can barely listen to this stuff on TV, but he did the National Prayer Service this year? And in running by Gateway just now, saw where he has asserted that his father was a non-believer. I’ve checked no links and verified nothing; by now it is easy to find these things credible: he needs to distance himself as best as he can from anything Muslim.

  14. Obama to face reporters’ questions on Egypt crisis

    This has to be good for a plam in hands moment, he’s bound to um and ah the whole way through it.

  15. Soros’ article via confloyd: “…some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves.”

    This is certainly a true statement, as I have repeatedly noted and pointed out on this blog.

  16. Q:What could be worse than a “political naif”?

    A: A “CORRUPT” political naif!!
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    US response to Egypt draws criticism in Israel

    By AMY TEIBEL

    JERUSALEM (AP) – President Barack Obama’s response to the crisis in Egypt is drawing fierce criticism in Israel, where many view the U.S. leader as a political naif whose pressure on a stalwart ally to hand over power is liable to backfire.

    Critics – including senior Israeli officials who have shied from saying so publicly – say Obama is repeating the same mistakes of predecessors whose calls for human rights and democracy in the Middle East have often backfired by bringing anti-West regimes to power.

    Israeli officials, while refraining from open criticism of Obama, have made no secret of their view that shunning Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and pushing for swift elections in Egypt could bring unintended results.

    “I don’t think the Americans understand yet the disaster they have pushed the Middle East into,” said lawmaker Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who until recently was a Cabinet minister and who is a longtime friend of Mubarak.

    “If there are elections like the Americans want, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Muslim Brotherhood didn’t win a majority, it would win half of the seats in parliament,” he told Army Radio. “It will be a new Middle East, extremist radical Islam.”

    Three decades ago, President Jimmy Carter urged another staunch American ally – the shah of Iran – to loosen his grip on power, only to see his autocratic regime replaced by the Islamic Republic. More recently, U.S.-supported elections have strengthened such groups as Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in the Palestinian territories and anti-American radicals in Iran.

    “Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as ‘the president who lost Iran,'” the analyst Aluf Benn wrote in the daily Haaretz this week. “Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who ‘lost’ Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America’s alliances in the Middle East crumbled,” Benn wrote.

    Israel has tremendous respect for Mubarak, who carefully honored his country’s peace agreement with Israel after taking power nearly 30 years ago.

    While relations were often cool, Mubarak maintained a stable situation that has allowed Israel to greatly reduce its military spending and troop presence along the border with Egypt.

    He also worked with Israel to contain the Gaza Strip’s Hamas government and served as a bridge to the broader Arab world. Israeli leaders have said it is essential that whoever emerges as Egypt’s next leader continue to honor the peace agreement.

    For more than a week, Egyptians fed up with deepening poverty, corruption and 30 years of Mubarak’s autocratic rule have massed across the country to demand his ouster. The backlash has forced Mubarak to announce he won’t run in September elections, but that has not appeased protesters, who want him out now.

    In the course of the turmoil, the Obama administration has repeatedly recalibrated its posture, initially expressing confidence in Egypt’s government, later threatening to withhold U.S. aid, and lastly, pressing Mubarak to loosen his grip on power immediately.

    “We want to see free, fair and credible elections,” State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Wednesday. “The sooner that can happen, the better.”

    Critics say the U.S. is once again confusing the mechanics of democracy with democracy itself.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed similar sentiments this week when he warned that “if extremist forces are allowed to exploit democratic processes to come to power to advance anti-democratic goals – as has happened in Iran and elsewhere – the outcome will be bad for peace and bad for democracy.”

    So far, no unified opposition leadership or clear program for change has emerged in Egypt. Historically the leading opposition in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that favors Islamic rule and has been repressed by Mubarak throughout his tenure.

    Many young people see the former director of the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog agency, Mohammed ElBaradei, as Egypt’s democratic hope, but critics say he is out of touch with Egypt’s problems because he has spent so many years outside of the country.

    The calls for democracy inside Egypt have put the U.S. in an awkward position of having to balance its defense for human rights with its longtime ties to an authoritarian regime that has been a crucial Arab ally.

    In Israel, critics say the U.S. has suffered a credibility loss by shaking off Mubarak when his regime started crumbling.

    “The Israeli concept is that the U.S. rushed to stab Mubarak in the back,” said Eytan Gilboa, an expert on the U.S. at Bar-Ilan University.

    “As Israel sees it, they could have pressured Mubarak, but not in such an overt way, because the consequence could be a loss of faith in the U.S. by all pro-Western Arab states in the Middle East, and also a loss of faith in Israel,” he said.

    Raphael Israeli, a professor emeritus of Middle Eastern Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, echoed a widely felt perception that before the unrest erupted, the Obama administration paid only lip service to the lack of human rights in Mubarak’s authoritarian regime.

    “If Obama were genuinely concerned with what is going on in Egypt, he should have made the same demands two years ago (when he addressed the Muslim world in Cairo) and eight years and 20 years ago. Mubarak didn’t come to power yesterday.”

    “As long as there are no problems, the oppression works,” Israeli said. “If the oppression doesn’t work, suddenly it becomes urgent. That’s unacceptable.”

  17. JanH’s article: “Many in the pro-Israel community have been concerned that the waning position of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his regime will empower the Muslim Brotherhood and are fearful that the US could contribute to its rise by viewing the Islamic group as a legitimate Egyptian political player.”

    “Legitimate”? What would make them ‘illegimate’? They are Egyptian citizens just like the kleptocrats we and Israel have openly imposed on the Egyptian people for the last 30 years.

    In my book, they have a right to express themselves in their own country. They may or may not become a dominant political force therein. If they do come to dominate Egyptian politics, I’m sure there will be policies and actions they implement that I, along with other Americans, Europeans, Israelis, Turks, etc etc, disagree with or deplore; but I’ll be damned if I’m going to tolerate flat-footed American intervention, or that of any other country, in Egyptian affairs.

    I don’t like the basics of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brits instituted this entity in their Empire as a conservative organization, constructed like Free Masonry (which is also an all-male “Brotherhood”) to inform on and undermine any movements of revolt among the subject peoples.

    I don’t like the all-male aspect, and I don’t like the religious undertone of the whole thing; but its overall effect on society is the same as that of Free Masonry from which it was modeled, ie secret meetings where the members are free to express themselves on anything of common concern. No decisions are made to intervene one way or another outside the meetings. There is no equivalent to the Pope who knows everything and tells members what to think and say. That’s why someone like ElBaradei was pegged to speak on behalf of this twilight organization.

    There is also a common suspicion and corresponding fear of Free Masonry in England and France. There, they are suspected of collusion in illicit dealings and exerting inordinate pressure on politicians. They are considered to be a ghost power. Some, but not all, of those suspicions are justified. But Free Masons are a small minority of the electorate and are not disenfranchised as a lot because of these suspicions. The Muslim Brotherhood should not be considered illegimate either.

  18. Mrs. Smith’s article: “Critics say the U.S. is once again confusing the mechanics of democracy with democracy itself.”
    _______

    And how right they are, starting with Netanyahu. Hitler was brought to power by popular vote, so were Obama and the theocrats of Iran.

    And democracy itself is of dubious value in my book, though that’s another story.

  19. San Antonio is completely shut down this morning, all the freeways closed. Solid ice with a dusting of snow. People stuck in their cars all over.

    Just snow is bad enough in areas like this where there is no equipment, no sand or salt etc. But ICE? Fuggedabouddit.

  20. it’s the most creative numbers scheme I’d ever seen, but everyone knows it’s just an outright lie.

    Unemployment falls to 9.0 pct., only 36K new jobs (yeah right)

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The unemployment rate dropped sharply last month to 9 percent, the lowest level in nearly two years. But the economy generated only 36,000 net new jobs, the fewest in four months.

    i smell Bullshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

  21. NDP tycoon & Gamal Mubarak promoter Ibrahim Kamel to BBC “The West has betrayed Egypt”

    Obama, ya better get your flack jacket on, i think the egyptian regime is about to turn its guns on you.

  22. admin: Sorry I’m going to have to disagree with you here about the Op-Ed and Kirsten Powers’s story. I adopt the reverse opinion of these two stories.

    It is the groundwork and conclusions of Kirsten Power’s story that is demented. She starts out knowing nothing and quickly winds up being scared mostly by wild extrapolations of what she wouldn’t want to see happen in the US, but without bothering to think or research the Egyptian side. Thumbs down.

    The Op-Ed may be a little rosy, but at least it’s based on knowledge of this nebulous entity and its history. I give it a couple of kudos.

    It’s no secret that the only reason we consider Egypt to be so important is because it is Israel’s neighbor and a potential enemy of Israel. For once, we could just let the Israelis handle this themselves and stop worrying about things in their place.

    Everything we do in the Middle East pivots around Israel. As far as the Israelis are concerned, they are the tail wagging the dog: They always do exactly what they want anyway, and the US has to back them up. This time, let them take the bull by the horns and keep our shit out of there.

  23. seems to be a consensus from what i’ve heard, the pro and anti govt, they both think he’s screwed them.

    Barack has sat on the fence to his detriment this time,the protestors hate him for still backing Mubarak, the egyptian Govt hate him for not backing Mubarak and all our allies in the middle east no longer trust us because they can see he drops off a cliff them when the tough gets going.

    Hillary’s got a hell of a job ahead of her thanks to Big Ears.

  24. HAHA, The senate expecting to pass a resolution to ask Mubarak to go…go on, yeah that’ll scare them.

  25. moononpluto: “Egyptians now chanting: “Obama must step down!”
    _________

    And exactly to the point: Imagine other countries opining on and intervening in our affairs!!

    What if a posse of Arab nations, for example, had been sent here to install Al Gore in the presidency because they thought the 2000 elections were rigged?

    I mean, they would have been right, of course; but they would never have done it. Yet this is the sort of thing the US does in dozens of countries around the world: shoving, pulling, opining, judging election outcomes, calling for democracy but then working best with the dictators we install.

    I remember RayGun was shocked and outraged when Mitterrand installed 4 communists in his first government. Mitterrand responded through the press: “I didn’t ask him [RayGun] for his opinion, and I won’t ask it next time either,” which enraged RayGun even more… imagine a foreigner who didn’t give a shit what the Leader of the Free World thought of him??!! On the other hand, Mitterrand’s terse reply endeared him to the French and to Europeans in general.

  26. http://www.gallup.com/poll/145937/Obama-Approval-Ratings-Polarized-Year-Year.aspx

    Obama : Most Polarizing President Since Eisenhower

    A new Gallup survey finds President Obama is one of the most polarizing presidents in decades.

    Obama’s approval ratings in 2010 showed a 68 point gap between the percentage of Democrats approving of him and the percentage of Republicans approving — the largest gap in party ratings of any president since President Eisenhower.

    ……………..and they had the cheek to say Hillary was polarizing.

  27. He drops again.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 24% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16

    Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

    thats in 5 days dropped from -8 to -16.

  28. So my guess about the USA wanting VP Suleiman to head an interim government until elections was right, though, if rumor (aka NYT) can be believed, they want it to be a triumvirate with Chief of Staff Gen. Enan and Defense Minister Tantawi.
    The protestors seem to accept Tantawi as being the friendly face of the Army, and the Pentagon is comfortable with Enan.
    Reminds me of the triumvirate after Julius Caesar: I guess Suleiman plays Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, Enan plays Mark Antony, and Tantawi plays Octavius?
    from http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/feb/03/egypt-protests-live-updates#block-131 :
    “The US is working on a deal with the Egyptian government for Mubarak to resign immediately in favour of a three-man junta, according to the New York Times in a news item just posted”

  29. He drops again.
    =======

    moon, this goes with my theory that when nothing is happening and he is doing nothing, his ratings go up. The moment he actually has to function as POTUS, people are reminded again of what an eff-up he is, and they go down.

    😀

  30. “Obama : Most Polarizing President Since Eisenhower”
    ———————-

    Music to my ears. I’m sure the media will bury this as well.

  31. Obama to face reporters’ questions on Egypt crisis
    ————————————————
    Q-1: Ann Compton: do you find that being black makes your job as president more difficult. (Yup, she asked that one 2 yrs ago)

    Q-2: Jake Tapper: the American Public admires the job you are doing Mr. President. Merry Christmas. (Was that a question).

    etc.

    The questions they will never ask:

    Q-4: Truth Seeker: kindly list for us the specific steps you, your campaign and now your regime have taken from the beginning up to now to foment this revolt. Please identify names, dates and actions. Take your time.

    Q-5: Truth Seeker: Murbarak has been an American ally in the middle east, true? Yet you have taken concrete steps to depose him, either directly or indirectly? Would other allies be wrong to say there but for the grace of god goeth I? And if so, then why should they trust you not to do the same thing to them?

    Q-6: Truth Seeker: is it the goal of American Foreign Policy to foment a uprising, totally misread the response of the party in power, make conflicting statements to the opposing parties (there he goes, campaigning again), and end up with both sides distrusting you?

    Q-7: Truth Seeker: I note with passing interest the op ed piece of George Soros supporting this rebellion. Is that the same George Soros who has fomented similar colors revolutions around the world? The one who calls the former Soviet Empire the Soros Empire? The former Nazi collaborator? The man who crashed the British pound? The man who controls the democratic party and manipulates our political system to his own perverse ends? The man who who picked you, funded you and helped plan your campaign? The man whose Open Society Agenda you followed in lock step during your first two years in office? That George Soros? Tell me sir: do you ever tire of being the sock puppet for Soros, Immelt and Golden Sacks, or have you no honor?

  32. Egypt Likely Topic as Hillary Clinton Flies to Munich Security Conference

    By Nicole Gaouette – Feb 4, 2011

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton flies to Germany today for meetings with world security leaders that are likely to be dominated by the upheaval in Egypt.

    Clinton’s agenda at the 47th Munich Security Conference also will include an exchange of documents with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov that will put into force a nuclear weapons treaty between their countries.

    Clinton has meetings planned with UK Prime Minister David Cameron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Afghan President Hamid Karzai, according to the State Department.

    On Egypt, the Obama administration has been pressing President Hosni Mubarak to immediately begin a transition to a new government. Mubarak yesterday refused, telling ABC News in an interview that it would lead to chaos.

    Merkel, Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, along with the premiers of Italy and Spain, called upon Mubarak to step down and facilitate a “quick and orderly transition to a broad-based government” on Feb. 3.

    State Department spokesman Philip J. Crowley said that George Mitchell, the U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East, will attend the conference. There will be a meeting of the so-called Quartet — the U.S., European Union, United Nations and Russia. “I’m not anticipating any meetings with Israelis or Palestinians,” Crowley said.

    On Feb. 5, the Secretary and Lavrov will exchange instruments of ratification for the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, a major priority for President Barack Obama. Once this exchange occurs, the New START Treaty will enter into force.

    The new START Treaty limits each side’s strategic warheads to no more than 1,550, from 2,200 allowed previously, and sets a maximum of 800 land-, air- and sea-based launchers.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/egypt-likely-topic-as-hillary-clinton-flies-to-munich-security-conference.html

  33. Hillary already looked so tired yesterday — it;s like she’s single-handedly pushing the USA safely through a mine-strewed field while the fool in the WH has his feet propped up on the steering wheel drinking his slurpee.

  34. =======
    moon, this goes with my theory that when nothing is happening and he is doing nothing, his ratings go up. The moment he actually has to function as POTUS, people are reminded again of what an eff-up he is, and they go down.
    =======
    HillaryforTexas that’s exactly what happens!

  35. I’m thrilled we can educate Muslim Extremists in the UK and the USA, then have them come back and insist Sharia Law, be the Law of the Land in both countries.. yay!

  36. HECKUVA JOB, O-BAMBI.

    Obama the Job Slayer!

    moononpluto
    February 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
    it’s the most creative numbers scheme I’d ever seen, but everyone knows it’s just an outright lie.

    Unemployment falls to 9.0 pct., only 36K new jobs (yeah right)
    &&&&&&

    Yeah, funny numbers.

    Here’s an analysis that punctures the rosy scenario about a “sharp drop in unemployment”. Good quotes:

    “President Obama’s jobs strategy is a failure.”

    “President Obama’s policies are not creating conditions for businesses to hire those 360,000 workers each month, net of layoffs. At some point the facts will catch up with thinking in the White House, but don’t hold your breath.”

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/04/another_lousy_jobs_report_108780.html

    Another Lousy Jobs Report
    ====================

    By Peter Morici
    February 4, 2011

    Another lousy jobs report!

    The economy only added 36, 000 jobs in January and that is terrible.

    The unemployment rate fell to 9.0 percent, because the labor force decreased by 504,000 and the working age population shrunk by 185,000.

    Despite all the Administration’s claims, things are getting worse, not better. Folks are giving up looking, and the country appears to be losing population to emigration. Many workers are resorting to self employment, not because home-based businesses offer great opportunities, but because real jobs simply are not being created.

    The private sector is creating very few permanent jobs. After health care and social services, which are mostly government funded, and temporary services are backed out, the private sector gained only 49.000 jobs.

    Core jobs outpaced overall jobs growth because even the temp services sector lost jobs-so much for temporary services being the leading edge of a recovery in jobs creation

    Temporary tax cuts, green jobs, waivers from the onerous consequences of the health care law for unions and other supporters of President Obama, and a hallow reevaluation of onerous regulations don’t cut it. Rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

    Same applies to the veiled failure at changing China’s very damaging currency policy and doubling exports. If President Obama won’t act against China’s currency strategy and stop laying big health care and regulatory burdens on business, the U.S. economy won’t create jobs.

    President Obama’s jobs strategy is a failure.

    The economy must add 13 million private sector jobs by the end of 2013 to bring unemployment down to 6 percent. President Obama’s policies are not creating conditions for businesses to hire those 360,000 workers each month, net of layoffs.

    At some point the facts will catch up with thinking in the White House, but don’t hold your breath.

  37. Wonder if there was/will be a payout for Mubarak.

    Moon,

    It would also be music to my ears if you could tell me that Europe and Asia are coming down from their high on Obama as well.

  38. North Carolina Gov. Bev Perdue’s (D) “has hired two of the state’s most prominent criminal defense lawyers as scrutiny of her 2008 campaign activity continues,” the Raleigh News and Observer reports.

    The Hotline: “The investigation could draw unwanted scrutiny for North Carolina Democrats next year, at the worst possible time. Home state governors are typically featured front and center at conventions, and if the probe turns up anything it will undoubtedly draw attention. There is also a possibility that former Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards could face a 2012 trial over whether he inappropriately used campaign funds to cover up his affair with Rielle Hunter.”

    Perdue may lose her seat after this.

  39. moononpluto
    February 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Open Left bites the dust.

    I went right over there and tried to post a comment but couldn’t remember how.

    I wanted to ask: Who will hold Obama’s feet to the fire now? Forget about Hillary, he and Digby said, Obama will provide true health care reform and if not we have the power to force him to.

    Is Digby still out there? Hey Digby is Obama’s foot keeping you warm in this cold spell?

  40. A vertical plunge in employment . . . A concomitant spike in food prices . . . a coming spike in fuel prices . . . the wages of hope and change . . . But nobody can see the disaster coming . . . or as my barber put it to me . . . people do not have time to worry about this, they are too busy making a living . . . and when they do have the time, it will be too late I am afraid . . .
    ————————-

    Labor Force Participation Plunges To Fresh 26 Year Low
    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/04/2011 08:57 -0500

    BLS Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment

    At 64.2%, the labor force participation rate (as a percentage of the total civilian noninstitutional population) is now at a fresh 26 year low, the lowest since March 1984, and is the only reason why the unemployment rate dropped to 9% (labor force declined from 153,690 to 153,186). Those not in the Labor Force has increased from 83.9 million to 86.2 million, or 2.2 million in one year! As for the numerator in the fraction, the number of unemployed, it has plunged from 15 million to 13.9 million in two months! The only reason for this is due to the increasing disenchantment of those who completely fall off the BLS rolls and no longer even try to look for a job. Lastly, we won’t even show what the labor force is as a percentage of total population. It is a vertical plunge.

  41. SoS Kerry reporting to CiC Obama? Now THAT would be a nightmare!
    Who gets to be SecDef & NSA in this scary scenario?

  42. Would not be surprised at all as Kerry has wanted that position since day one. He certainly would fit into the type of foreign policy Obama/Soros want. I hope Hillary stays on just to spite him.
    =============================

    As for the unemployment numbers, a complete farce but truthfully, if the trend continues downward, despite the lack of real job creation, Obama will be in good shape for 2012…..depressing .

  43. No love, it was not the CIA, it was the ineptness of the idiot you put in the WH.
    ———-

    It was also, IMO, partly the result of that wikileaks idiot doing major damage to our intelligence sources. They all clammed up and were afraid to talk to us, lest they be featured and outed in the next leak.

  44. I agree that wikileaks dealt a huge blow to the responsiveness of the State Dept.
    Assange is probably very proud of this.

  45. jeswezey: what is happening now in Egypt is a spectacle, and to the public it is no different than watching a fire. They fear for the victims, fall for the democracy line and accept the heroes who big media coronate. They have their story, and they can write their little essays on it like the college sophomores they are. But behind the whole spectacle, those of us who look at this Soros revolution with a more jaundiced eye see the ghosts of Christmases past, and we know as much as we know anything, that the forces behind this rebellion will ultimately capitalize on it, and even the leaders who big media sees as the heroes and the beacons of hope for their little essays, will in the end turn on us. It is so fucking simple, at least to me. Why should a country which has been in the throes of dictatorship for centuries suddenly do an about face an embrace our version of democracy. It is counterintuitive. The democracy movement will be exploited through mass manipulation, to an end which is hostile to Israel and US. This is the profound stupidity of the left.

    The Ugly Truth About Middle East Populism
    By Michael Goodwin
    Published February 02, 2011
    | FoxNews.com
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    Well, that was fast. Reflecting the growing prospect that events in Cairo will not have a happy ending, a top member of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood says, “The people should be prepared for war against Israel.”

    Muhammad Ghannem also tells an Iranian news outlet that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately and that Egypt should stop the flow of natural gas into Israel, according to the Jerusalem Post.

    The comments rip away the smiley face the Western media has pasted on the push to topple Hosni Mubarak. It is time to temper the heart-tugging romanticism about “the people” in the streets with the ugly truth about what populism usually means in the Mideast.

    Most important, talk of an Egyptian-Israeli war should send shudders through the White House, which seems ready to hand Egypt on a platter to Anybody But Mubarak.

    President Jimmy Carter followed the same course in Iran, with disastrous results. First, he embraced the Shah, then switched to the democracy movement. The Shah fled, the so-called democrats seized American hostages, and, 30 years later, the world is living under the threat of the evil regime.

    Equally instructive is what happened in the Gaza Strip. President George W. Bush pushed for an election that both the Palestinian Authority and Israel said was a mistake. Bush was stubborn, Hamas got 70 percent of the vote, and quickly set to executing moderate Palestinians and firing rockets into Israel.

    Maybe Egypt would be different — but a little evidence would be nice. Certainly, we can’t look for any from Mohamed ElBaradei, who joined ranks with the Muslim Brotherhood to form a united opposition. His Nobel Peace Prize and former role at the United Nations have not sharpened his instincts for danger.

    ElBaradei pooh-poohs talk the Brotherhood, the godfather of radical Islam, would resort to violence. He even predicted that, in a fair election, its candidates would get no more than 30 percent of the vote.
    The number drips with irony. Hamas also was predicted to get 30 percent in the first, and last, Gaza vote.

  46. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) “is running an unofficial campaign to become the next secretary of state,”
    ————————-
    A dangerous bumbling fool with no grasp of reality.

  47. Obama Taps Bill Clinton to be Private Sector Salesman

    by Kelly Chernenkoff | February 03, 2011

    In case “energy innovation” isn’t a flashy enough cause, President Obama has tapped a big name to help sell it to the private sector.

    On the same day that Mr. Obama rolled out his plan to make commercial buildings twenty percent more energy efficient by 2020, the White House announced that “The President has asked President Clinton, who has been a champion for this kind of energy innovation, to co-lead the private sector engagement along with the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, headed by Jeff Immelt, the CEO of General Electric.”

    Clinton has been an outspoken advocate in the past for clean energy and issues such as federally mandating utility companies to separate their profits from their sales. He has also supported cap and trade and renewing and lengthening tax credits for clean energy.

    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/03/obama-taps-bill-clinton-be-private-sector-salesman

  48. BO must be surprised to find that there are repercussions for throwing people under the bus.
    First, while Hillary is trying to finesse Mub’s departure behind the scenes via Wisner, he publicly throws Mub under the bus and basically forces Mub to save face insisting he will stay. BO’s stupid speech is why Mub wouldn’t meet Wisner a 2nd time.
    Now he tries to save face himself by blaming the CIA.

  49. As for the unemployment numbers, a complete farce but truthfully, if the trend continues downward, despite the lack of real job creation, Obama will be in good shape for 2012…..depressing
    ———————————————————-
    That problem is, I think, manageable. Nobody trusts government figures, especially if they can be shown to be a lie, by highlighting the erroneous assumptions on which they are based. But that is the minor premise. The major premise must be a day in the life of the unemploymed, and their slow certain descent into poverty. If that visual of the middle class can be made real, and the numbers can be shown to be a lie, Obama will be toast.

  50. votermom @ 11:30

    Yup. He’s such a boob. Betcha Hillary could have eased Mubarek out quietly and peacefully and allowed him to save face, if Obama hadn’t opened his trap and pushed him into a corner.

  51. El Baradei: I don’t think any of the negotiations with the govt are serious. The demand of the protesters is for Mubarak to leave.

  52. El Baradei: What Omar Suleiman (the new VP) offered are minor concessions. We want to move from a dictatorship to a democracy not remain the same.

  53. El Baradei: We want to move from a dictatorship to a democracy
    ———————–
    My god the man sounds like Castro. (supra).

  54. El Baradei: What Omar Suleiman (the new VP) offered are minor concessions. We want to move from a dictatorship to a democracy not remain the same.

    ————-
    Oh yes. And a marriage between him, the MB, Soros, and obama will definitely ensure a democracy…NOT.

  55. *El Baradei to Austrian paper “I will not run in the next presidential elections”*
    ===============
    If I were cynical I’d say it sounds like ElB wants to be in charge of the interim govt.

  56. Watching AJ to try and catch up on what is happening in Egypt. They are saying that so far, the protests are mostly peaceful again.

    Sounds like the Western news folks there were really thumped and I wonder if the youth is getting out tweet and videos if the Internet is back on for them again?

    With all the media cut, I worried when I went to bed last night, that the protesters would be dead in the morning.

  57. The Soros article was really disgusting. Israel is in jeopardy of losing a peace agreement which at least has prevented a massive war in the Middle East. The Israelis have every right being concerned with an Islamic republic taking hold in Egypt, and America has just as much to lose if that should occur. Russia would glady step in and supply Egypt with the arms we currently send them…

  58. He’s gonna piss them off again.

    THAT’S IT? — President Obama and Canada’s prime minister will call on just two reporters at their “joint press availability” Friday afternoon, according to the White House.

    Reporters have complained that Obama has evaded them all week so he doesn’t have to talk about his handling of Egypt’s political crisis. On Wednesday, press secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed their concerns by saying, “I think you’ll get a chance likely to talk to the president later in the week when Prime Minister Harper is here.”

    But White House spokesman Tommy Vietor says Obama and Harper plan to call on just one reporter each.

  59. I am surprised these protesters still have voices.

    Yelling in Denver, I could hardly talk by the time I flew home, then again, I am no longer 20 and Denver was so dry and I was so exhausted and dehydrated that it was ugly.

    Many of these people are hurt, exhausted and where do they pee? 🙂

  60. Soros is a not merely a man of the left with strong opinions and alot of money. He is a direct ACTOR on the world stage and has thousands of people working for him. His agenda is one of creative destruction. As such he is a clear and present danger to national security, economic survival of the middle class and international order. There is no other way to look at him if you measure his words and his deeds.

  61. *Many of these people are hurt, exhausted and where do they pee?*
    =========
    shadowfax, on the bbc actually they did mention the square is getting quite stinky now because obviously there are no (or not enough) public bathrooms.

  62. Yelling in Denver, I could hardly talk by the time I flew home, then again, I am no longer 20 and Denver was so dry and I was so exhausted and dehydrated that it was ugly.
    ———————————————
    Denver? Our protests were on a small scale and they were not orchestrated by third parties as this one was. In fact, the same people who supported the dictator in Denver are behind this rebellion.

  63. wbboei
    February 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
    As for the unemployment numbers, a complete farce but truthfully, if the trend continues downward, despite the lack of real job creation, Obama will be in good shape for 2012…..depressing
    ———————————————————-
    That problem is, I think, manageable. Nobody trusts government figures, especially if they can be shown to be a lie, by highlighting the erroneous assumptions on which they are based. But that is the minor premise. The major premise must be a day in the life of the unemploymed, and their slow certain descent into poverty. If that visual of the middle class can be made real, and the numbers can be shown to be a lie, Obama will be toast.
    &&&&

    The “employment situation” is not as rosy as their numbers try to paint it.

    Permanent hires are going to remain at a contracted level for quite some time.

    Opportunities for college grads are much more limited in this “new reality”; that is, jobs are harder to find, and the salaries are lower. College grads are taking high school level jobs.

    Older people are getting forced out earlier, but oh yeah, the liklihood of Social Security reform will result in later retirement ages. So you’re going to be told to work longer while there’s nothing out there.

    Jobs keep going overseas.

    So in light of all these developments, the fudged numbers are going keep being produced by a government skewed toward working to keep a president re-electable. But all these hard working people, whether employed, under-employed, unemployed, or self-employed in a crumby economy, are not going to look at the funny numbers in the headlines and say, “Oh goody, I knew Obama would turn things around”.

    As Judge Judy says, “Don’t pee on me and tell me it’s raining”.

  64. From bbc:
    “The BBC’s Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports on the changing composition of the crowd in Tahrir Square: “This did not start as an Islamic uprising, but the actions of the Mubarak regime have forced many of the middle class protesters off the street, and what is left is much more hard line.””

    Imo on a larger scale this is why the sooner Mub goes the better. The more he digs in the more empowered the MB become.

  65. The simplest way to get unemployment numbers down is to apply the Mathusian solution — kill off the excess population. That’s where wars usually come in handy.
    (That is snark; I am definitely not advocating it.)

  66. Big Media did not block our PUMA protests in Denver, we just pushed our way though and mostly women supporting Hillary…they didn’t shut us up.

    A few obots did cross our paths, and I had to be physically restrained by one of ‘my girls’.

    This small woman was ready to take on a 230 lb loud mouth man that chanted next to me, every time we said ‘Hillary’, he screamed at the top of his lungs, “Monica!”
    I blew a cork.

  67. OK, I’m going back over the posts…has Mubarak left or not???

    I am covered in snow and still no hot water and I think I’m getting a cold…grrreeeaaat! My daughter has pneumonia…she’s been running all over Houston getting called out for ultrasounds and her company car has no heat…WHY, has she not been griping to her boss about this….I don’t understand these children!

  68. JOHN FUCKING KERRY is trying to get Hillary JOB???? WTF! YEP, that’s all we need is to have that idiot in charge of the State dept. and saving the world…OMG!

  69. Again another disaster of Obama’s stupidity and bad decision making. Seriously read this, this is serious evidence of Obama putting himself before country. This woman terrorised US Staff. I wonder how many more of these Obama “apointees” there are.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/04/AR2011020400593.html

    Big Obama donor quits envoy job amid criticism

    Report: Big Obama donor ruled Luxembourg embassy with iron fist, made questionable purchases

    WASHINGTON — As a supporter of presidential candidate Barack Obama, Cynthia Stroum was a superstar whose financial backing of the campaign landed her a plum diplomatic posting in Europe.

    As America’s ambassador to Luxembourg, the wealthy Seattle-based businesswoman was a disaster.

    According to an internal State Department report released Thursday, less than a week after she quit, Stroum’s management of the U.S. Embassy in the tiny country was abysmal. The report says her tenure of about one year was fraught with personality conflicts, verbal abuse and questionable expenditures on travel, wine and liquor.

    Stroum’s case illustrates the pitfalls that presidents can face when they appoint non-career diplomats to ambassadorships as a reward for their political support.

    The Luxembourg embassy “has underperformed for the entirety of the current ambassador’s tenure,” said the report, which was prepared last fall before she resigned abruptly. “At present, due to internal problems, it plays no significant role in policy advocacy or reporting, though developments in Luxembourg are certainly of interest to Washington clients and other U.S. missions in the NATO and EU communities.”

    snip ……..But the report paints a picture of a corrosive atmosphere at the small embassy, with the ambassador running roughshod over staff, threatening to read their e-mails, largely concerned about job-related perks and involved in improper purchases.

    The situation was so bad that the inspector general recommended that the State Department dispatch medical personnel to Luxembourg to test the stress levels of embassy employees. It said at least four staffers quit or sought transfers to Iraq and Afghanistan during her tenure, unusual steps for diplomats assigned to a modern, Western European capital.

    “The bulk of the mission’s internal problems are linked to her leadership deficiencies, the most damaging of which is an abusive management style,” the report said. “She has followed a pattern of public criticism of colleagues, including (deputies), who have not performed to her satisfaction.”

    “Those who have questioned or challenged some of the ambassador’s actions state that they have paid a heavy price in the form of verbal abuse and been threatened with dismissal,” it said.

    The report said the State Department was aware of the situation and that a perceived lack of action in dealing with it could be harmful. “It is unfortunate that an impression is being created among officers and local employees at this mission that this kind of behavior may be routinely tolerated by Department of State leadership, particularly for non-career ambassadors.”

    Financial reports say Stroum donated the maximum personal amount to Obama’s campaign. She also donated $2,300 to the failed presidential campaign of former Sen. John Edwards.

    As a fundraiser, the records show she was responsible for ginning up at least $500,000 for Obama, putting her near the top of the campaign’s money generators.

    The inspector general said it had learned in interviews with embassy staffers that Stroum, shortly after her arrival in Luxembourg, discussed with them “the importance she attaches to the perquisites of” being an ambassador. As such, she was particularly concerned about the state of the ambassador’s residence, which was being renovated, it said.

    Because of the renovation, Stroum sought temporary housing. An embassy official spent six weeks searching for an appropriate property and, using contacts in Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany and France along with two officials from the U.S. Embassy in Brussels, screened 200 properties and visited 30 to 40.

    They found only four that met the ambassador’s requirements and she rejected all of them, according to the report, before an acceptable residence finally was found.

    Apart from those difficulties and management problems, the report identified several improprieties while Stroum was in charge in Luxembourg. Among them:

    – Stroum spent $2,400 to fly with an aide to a Swiss “professional school” whose graduates have gone on to work for Buckingham Palace and similar places to interview candidates to replace a retired property caretaker and a fired chef. The purpose of the trip was listed as “management meetings.” Although no one from the school was hired, such recruitment is allowed only if there are no qualified local employees. In addition, they did not get proper authorization for the trip.

    – The embassy purchased $3,400 in wine and liquor a day before the 2010 budget year ended in an effort spend as much of its annual entertainment funds as possible. The booze did not arrive until the next fiscal year and State Department rules say embassies are not allowed “to use excess year-end funds” to buy items unless they are used in that year.

    – Stroum was reimbursed for the purchase of a new bed because she “preferred a queen bed to the king-size bed already provided.” The embassy twice asked Washington to reimburse the amount but was denied because it was a personal choice. Despite the refusals, the No. 2 at the embassy signed off on a voucher “reimbursing the ambassador for the cost of the mattress out of program funds.” The report said the voucher needs to be repaid.

  70. “You can’t make this stuff up,” chuckles Rep. Paul Ryan, on the Dems mtg with 400 lobbyists to fight GOP budget cuts.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/258980/ryan-you-can-t-make-stuff-robert-costa

    In an e-mail obtained by ABC News, a top staffer for the key Senate Appropriations subcommittee called for a meeting of lobbyists and interest groups that would be affected by expected cuts to the Labor and Health and Human Services budget. The Jan. 24 meeting was attended by approximately 400 people, sources told ABC, and served as a “call to arms” for those determined to fight Republican budget cuts.

    “One thing everyone should be able to agree on now is that a rising tide lifts all boats, and that a higher [Labor, Health & Human Services] allocation improves the chances for every stakeholder group to receive more funding,” the committee staffer for Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, wrote in an e-mail inviting people to the meeting.

    “You can’t make this stuff up,” chuckles Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), the chairman of the House Budget Committee, in an interview with National Review Online. “The spending special interests are coming out of the seams. They are activating K Street to work on their behalf.”

  71. *It said at least four staffers quit or sought transfers TO Iraq and Afghanistan during her tenure, *

    ======
    😯

  72. THAT’S IT? — President Obama and Canada’s prime minister will call on just two reporters at their “joint press availability” Friday afternoon, according to the White House.

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    lol…two thoughts come to mind:

    1/ He’s scared shitless to open his mouth.

    2/ Hillary has boxed his ears once and for all and told him to shut the hell up because she is tired of fixing his mistakes.

  73. Wow! This Cynthia Stroum sounds horrid…I’ve worked for people like that…but they were usually men….

  74. I mean putting an Obot donor in an ambassadorship for no reason other than cash, yeah thats not asking for trouble.

  75. Crony government. Big bundlers like Stroum get ambassadorships, CEOs of media & military tech like Immelt get Job Czardoms.

  76. How horrible for San Antonio. As stated on the blog, Albuquerque is reducing their gas consumption because outlying areas of NM are having their gas cut off. We get our gas from Texas, and they are having a shortage, and that has trickled down to other people they supply and must now restrict.

  77. Confloyd, her daughter, Big Cat and all of you buried in the cold and snow, take care of yourselves.
    Bundle up, it’s ain’t Hawaii and drive safely.

    It’s Friday, treat yourself to something. ;-0

  78. Clinton meets Pakistan minorities minister
    (AFP) – 3 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met Pakistan’s minister for minority affairs in a show of support for religious freedom as tensions mount in the country, he said Friday.

    Minorities Affairs Minister Shahbaz Bhatti, who has faced a wave of threats, said he spoke with Clinton on Thursday and explained his initiative to set up local committees around Pakistan to promote inter-faith harmony.

    “She was very supportive of religious freedom,” Bhatti told AFP.

    “She said religious freedom was one of the important areas on which US foreign policy is based and they will continue to pursue this issue in their dialogues, not only with Pakistan but around the globe,” he said.

    Bhatti has campaigned to reform Pakistan’s blasphemy law, which critics say has been abused to persecute religious minorities. He has sought clemency for a Christian mother of five sentenced to death under the law.

    The most prominent supporter of reforming the law — Punjab’s Governor Salman Taseer — was shot dead by his own bodyguard last month. In scenes that raised concern overseas, thousands have rallied in support of the assassin.

    At a recent protest in Lahore, an AFP reporter saw activists carrying effigies of Bhatti and Pope Benedict XVI.

    Bhatti, a Roman Catholic given a full-fledged cabinet position under President Asif Ali Zardari, said he has been receiving death threats “day and night” and that his family was also at risk.

    “I am ready to lay down my life for the principles I believe in. Terrorists and threats cannot hinder my cause to stand for justice and equality and religious freedom,” he said.

    Bhatti is working on a project to form local committees that would promote inter-faith harmony and sort out disputes.

    “This is the way to win the hearts and minds of the people,” he said.

    President Barack Obama’s administration has made the campaign against extremism in Pakistan a top priority. In 2009, the United States devoted 7.5 billion dollars to build school, infrastructure and democratic institutions.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hqeRx8bbWfve7kpauLQaK2O8jFLQ?docId=CNG.b31639fa6d87c5c3f1e98f48717cb3b9.281

    —————-

    “She was very supportive of religious freedom,”

    You can take that to the bank.

  79. The latest from the Insider….WOW! Things are bad!

    White House Insider: Obama is Clueless. Totally Clueless
    Published by Ulsterman on February 4, 2011 in World Politics
    Tags: democrats, Insider, news, Obama, Politics, republicans, ulsterman
    A surprise message from our D.C. Insider reveals an Obama White House completely unprepared for the events in Egypt, and increasingly fearful of Obama’s chances for re-election in 2012.

    Author’s Note: While not expecting this email from Insider, we are very thankful to have received it. Here is that email in its entirety.

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    Had to send you this quick message. Feel free to publish all of it if you wish. First, I am so disappointed in the response by Obama White House to the crisis in Egypt. White House was caught completely off guard on this one despite indications they were informed of just such a scenario a number of times over the past year or so. They ignored the warnings. When the protests started did you notice the confused messaging from the administration? Hillary says one thing. Biden says another thing. Obama says basically nothing. These are the situations where an American president can either rise to the occasion and show strength and wisdom or where they appear weak and uncertain. I don’t need to explain to you what our current president did. If this goes badly, and it appears it very well could, American interests in the region will be placed in very grave danger. The parallels to Carter are stunning. Oh how I miss the days when the party was led by the likes of Scoop. I fear the mishandling of the Egypt situation is going to result in a total chaos in that country soon.

    Read more in World Politics
    « Obama’s Health Care Law a Job KillerObama Has Nothing to Do with What Happens in Other Countries »Obama is clueless. Totally clueless. I am not talking a little out of step here. I am talking the man has no idea what is going on around him. This is not coming from me. I am relaying it from some still around him on a regular basis. These people are getting increasingly concerned over just how “out of it”, that is the phrase repeated to me, Obama has become. His primary focus is now getting elected in ‘12. Everything else has been given over to Jarrett and her group. Everything. The president has no interest in policy. None. No interest in working legislation. None. No interest in forging a specific agenda. None. He is being told what he needs to say and that is it. That is the extent of his interest. “Just make it look good.” Exact words right there. President Obama is obsessed 24/7 with just “looking good”. If something goes well, he gets happy and outgoing. If something makes him look badly, he lashes out and pouts. The man is bouncing off both of those extremes even more now than he used to and it appears to be getting worse and worse. The word “manic” is being used more and more regarding his moods these days.

    FYI there was a closed door meeting recently under the guise of discussions on Egypt. That meeting did not involve Egypt much if at all. This information is relayed second hand but I believe it to be completely reliable. Source told that meeting was run by Jarrett from start to end. Obama said very little. Asked no questions. The primary focus was how to protect Obamacare so it was not a “liability” in 2012 campaign. White House already spending significant time/resources preparing legal argument for the Supreme Court case that is coming. Second focus was apparently “birther” related. Jarrett expressed concern over possible newly passed eligibility requirements in states. If only one or two states clarify eligibility in order to run for office, White House will simply use those states as examples of “anti-Obama racism”. They would likely not win the electorals in those states regardless, but could use the scenario to gain sympathy and support over the challenge from other moderate states. This is the tactic Jarrett and crew have prepared. She is worried though that if more than one or two states challenge the president’s eligibility, the issue would turn against them. Measures are being taken to make certain that does not happen. What those measures are, I don’t know at this point. Oh, and while discussion over eligibility was underway, Obama sat motionless. He said nothing. That strikes me as pretty damn odd don’t you think? People are discussing whether or not you are actually eligible to run for re-election in 2012 and you don’t say a word on the subject? “He just sat there with a weird little smile and didn’t say anything.” Go ahead and print that quote word for word. Others are now willing to let their observations be more known. Concern for the country is now winning over concern for their own political interests. Finally.

    As stated before, Geithner is leaving. That was repeated to me again this past week

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-obama-is-clueless-totally-clueless/#ixzz1D1MJGz5z

  80. Ahem…..

    A senior U.S. official confirms there is evidence of fracturing and growing fissures within the leadership of the Egyptian government – NBC

    Shitfest is coming.

  81. As much as I would like to believe what the “insider” says, I sure would like to know who the “insider” really is.

  82. The idiot is ranting again…

    Chris Matthews on Obama handling of Egypt: ‘I feel ashamed as an American, the way we’re doing this’

  83. If Obama was stting their motionless with just a smirk on his face; then you have to know, there is a plan afoot. The FIX is in, for the next election.

  84. Posted at 11:18 AM ET, 02/ 3/2011
    Obama should just shut up on Egypt
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    By Richard Cohen

    When it comes to crises like the one in Egypt, the trouble with the White House is structural. It has a briefing room. (So does State.) When you have such a room, the pressure is to have a briefing. That means saying something — almost anything in the present case — when prudence, history and the gods of mythology cry out for silence. The Obama administration ought to just shut up.

    The latest from the White House, as reported in The Post, is a reassessment of its relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood. In principle, there’s nothing wrong with that. The U.S. ought to talk to almost anyone about anything. This is called smart diplomacy.

    But now is not the time to make nice to the Brotherhood, not just because it might take any overture as a sign of weakness, but because it is sure to laugh. After generations of supporting Hosni Mubarak, not even the dimmest of Islamic radicals is going to think America suddenly has had a change of heart. At the very least, the U.S. ought to be consistent. Our enemies would respect us for it and our friends, should there any left, would appreciate it. To paraphrase the old Hillary Clinton, if we cannot stand by our man — and we may not be able or want to — then we at least ought to shut up.

    At the moment, whatever talking that needs to be done ought to be limited to the enunciation of broad American principles — democracy, freedom of speech, minority rights and others. We are who we are and we ought to be proud of it. On a more detailed level, the American military ought to talk to the Egyptian military. Theirs is an old and durable relationship. If a latter-day Tiananmen Square is going to be avoided, then it is the American military that can be influential. Soldiers understand one another.

    At times, though, though, the Obama administration seems in such a rush to validate that meaningless cliché about “getting ahead of history,” that it seems to have learned nothing from it. It somehow thinks that by telling Mubarak it is time to go that the Egyptian masses, who had lived under the gun for over 30 years, will suddenly forgive and forget that America has been Mubarak’s partner, that it has supported him in his unpopular and loathsome peace with Israel, that it has given him guns and bullets, that it has welcomed him to the White House and that it has sent radical Islamists to his country so that they could be tortured, a regional specialty. What is Obama thinking?

    The fact is that history cannot be undone or instantly changed. The fact further is that the Muslim Brotherhood is not going to swoon for the U.S. of A. because Obama has nudged Mubarak to leave. The Brotherhood is a vast organization of pious men who are ideological committed to an Islamic state. They loath America and what it stands for. They do not want low-cut jeans and two-piece bathing suits and hip hop music and movies about teenage sex. They want none of that, all of which we have in abundance.

    Why the administration and the president himself has to say anything is beyond me. The crisis in Egypt will play out one way or the other without our statements or actions. We can have very little real influence on what is now going on. This is history in the making, and history is vast, a leviathan of forces that cannot be contained. It’s best to just get out of the way and, in the process, just shut up.

  85. Ignore some ron paul insanity in the comments. As I’ve been saying, the stupid, redneck, truck-driving, dumb-ass, bitter, clinging, blue-collar, mostly populist-conservative, inconsequential hicks of America have a very good grasp of the fact that the power of govt is not helping the people, but is propping up the power of the financiers and the politically connected, and we are all getting reamed.

    I may disagree with the maker of this video on many things – including ideas of solutions. I might disagree with him on how big govt needs to be. But do not tell me that he doesn’t understand that our govt is supposed to function for the benefit of the people, not the powerful. Do not tell me that he doesn’t get what is going on just as much as I do.

  86. VANITY, I agree, but that’s not where most of the money is going. The banks and favored corporations are draining this country dry, along with the vast army of SEIU and other politically connected organizations.

    The key to success is no longer sound investment and production, it is who can best latch on to the govt gravy train of favors, kickbacks, exemptions, waivers, and bailouts. And those doing it on a HUGE and MASSIVE scale put the piddling little amount for welfare checks to shame.

  87. admin, loved the post. glad to finally find a good blog with a ‘pro-Hillary–tell the truth about o’ perspective! i’ll be back.*sigh of relief*

  88. confloyd

    The latest from the Insider….WOW! Things are bad!

    White House Insider: Obama is Clueless. Totally Clueless

    —————
    We don’t know if this is true, but it sure fits what I have been thinking about Barry.

    I hope to Holy Hell that the BC and HellCare scam bring him down like a kite in a rainstorm.

    I would love for his ass to be exposed, the sooner the better.

    To me, Barry is like a zombie just walking the halls of the WhiteHouse. If Jarret is running things, may the curse of American voter’s Karma come down hard on her too.

    Get these spending hypocrites out of our WhiteHouse!!!!

  89. ADMIN suggests…

    Or is it that Obama is too busy worrying about reelection, continuing the war on Hillary Clinton, and pretending he really truly cares about being a Christian

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    right now (ADS) O is focused on partying with Jennifer Lopez during Super Bowl this Sunday
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    below is more of what you can expect from O…we might want to start calling him ‘The Big Zero’

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    propublica.org/article/dems-obama-broke-pledge-to-force-banks-to-help-homeowners

    Dems: Obama Broke Pledge to Force Banks to Help Homeowners

    Before he took office, President Obama repeatedly promised voters and Democrats in Congress that he’d fight for changes to bankruptcy laws to help homeowners—a tough approach that would force banks to modify mortgages.

    “I will change our bankruptcy laws to make it easier for families to stay in their homes,” Obama told supporters at a Colorado rally on September 16, 2008, the same day as the bailout of AIG.

    Bankruptcy judges have long been barred from lowering mortgage payments on primary residences, though they could do it with nearly all other types of debt, even mortgages on vacation homes. Obama promised to change that, describing it as exactly “the kind of out-of-touch Washington loophole that makes no sense.”

    But when it came time to fight for the measure, he didn’t show up. Some Democrats now say his administration actually undermined it behind the scenes.

    “Their behavior did not well serve the country,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), who led House negotiations to enact the change, known as “cramdown.” It was “extremely disappointing.”

    Instead, the administration has relied on a voluntary program with few sticks, that simply offers banks incentives to modify mortgages. Known as Home Affordable Modification Program, or HAMP, the program was modeled after an industry plan. The administration also wrote it carefully to exclude millions of homeowners seen as undeserving.

    The administration launched the program with a promise that it would help 3 million to 4 million homeowners avoid foreclosure, but it’s likely to fall far short of that goal. The Congressional Oversight Panel now estimates [1] fewer than 800,000 homeowners will ultimately get lasting mortgage modifications.

    insert graph

    Over the past year, ProPublica has been exploring why the program has helped so few homeowners. Last week, we reported how the Treasury Department has allowed banks to break the program’s rules with few ramifications [2]. The series is based on newly released data, lobbying disclosures, and dozens of interviews with insiders, members of Congress and others.

    As the foreclosure crisis grew through 2008, the large banks that handle most mortgages were slow to offer modifications to struggling homeowners. Homeowners were left to navigate an onerous process that usually did not actually lower their mortgage payment. More than half of modifications kept the homeowner’s payment the same or actually increased it.

    Many in Congress and elsewhere thought that mortgage servicers, the largest of which are the four largest banks, would make modifications only if they were pressured to do so.

    Servicers work as intermediaries, handling homeowners’ mortgage payments on behalf of investors who own the loans. Since servicers don’t own the vast majority of the loans they service, they don’t take the loss if a home goes to foreclosure, making them reluctant to make the investments necessary to fulfill their obligations to help homeowners.

    To force those servicers to modify mortgages, advocates pushed for a change to bankruptcy law giving judges the power not just to change interest rates but to reduce the overall amount owed on the loan, something servicers are loath to do [3].

    Congressional Democrats had long been pushing a bill to enact cramdown and were encouraged by the fact that Obama had supported it, both in the Senate and on the campaign trail.

    They thought cramdowns would serve as a stick, pushing banks to make modifications on their own.

    “That was always the thought,” said Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC), “that judicial modifications would make voluntary modifications work. There would be the consequence that if the lenders didn’t [modify the loan], it might be done to them.”

    When Obama unveiled his proposal to stem foreclosures a month after taking office, cramdown was a part of the package [4]. But proponents say he’d already damaged cramdown’s chances of becoming law.

    In the fall of 2008, Democrats saw a good opportunity to pass cramdown. The $700 billion TARP legislation was being considered, and lawmakers thought that with banks getting bailed out, the bill would be an ideal vehicle for also helping homeowners. But Obama, weeks away from his coming election, opposed that approach and instead pushed for a delay. He promised congressional Democrats that down the line he would “push hard to get cramdown into the law,” recalled Rep. Miller.

    Four months later, the stimulus bill presented another potential vehicle for cramdown. But lawmakers say the White House again asked them to hold off, promising to push it later.

    An attempt to include cramdown in a continuing resolution got the same response from the president.

    “We would propose that this stuff be included and they kept punting,” said former Rep. Jim Marshall, a moderate Democrat from Georgia who had worked to sway other members of the moderate Blue Dog caucus [5] on the issue.

    “We got the impression this was an issue [the White House] would not go to the mat for as they did with health care reform,” said Bill Hampel, chief economist for the Credit Union National Association, which opposed cramdown and participated in Senate negotiations on the issue.

    Privately, administration officials were ambivalent about the idea. At a Democratic caucus meeting weeks before the House voted on a bill that included cramdown, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner “was really dismissive as to the utility of it,” said Rep. Lofgren.

    Larry Summers, then the president’s chief economic adviser, also expressed doubts in private meetings, she said. “He was not supportive of this.”

    The White House and Summers did not respond to requests for comment.

    Treasury staffers began conversations with congressional aides by saying the administration supported cramdown and would then “follow up with a whole bunch of reasons” why it wasn’t a good idea, said an aide to a senior Democratic senator.

    Homeowners, Treasury staffers argued, would take advantage of bankruptcy to get help they didn’t need. Treasury also stressed the effects of cramdown on the nation’s biggest banks, which were still fragile. The banks’ books could take a beating if too many consumers lured into bankruptcy by cramdown also had their home equity loans and credit card debt written down.

    While the Obama administration was silent, the banking industry had long been mobilizing massive opposition to the measure.

    “Every now and again an issue comes along that we believe would so fundamentally undermine the nature of the financial system that we have to take major efforts to oppose, and this is one of them,” Floyd Stoner, the head lobbyist for the American Bankers Association, told an industry magazine.

    With big banks hugely unpopular, the key opponents of cramdown were the nation’s community bankers, who argued that the law would force them to raise mortgage rates to cover the potential losses. Democratic leaders offered to exempt the politically popular smaller banks from the cramdown law, but no deal was reached.

    “When you’re dealing with something like the bankruptcy issue, where all lenders stand pretty much in the same shoes, it shouldn’t be a surprise when the smaller and larger banks find common cause,” said Steve Verdier, a lobbyist for the Independent Community Bankers Association.

    The lobbying by the community banks and credit unions proved fatal to the measure, lawmakers say. “The community banks went bonkers on this issue,” said former Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT). With their opposition, he said, “you don’t win much.”

    “It was a pitched battle to get it out of the House,” said Rep. Miller, with “all the effort coming from the Democratic leadership, not the Obama administration.”

    The measure faced stark conservative opposition. It was opposed by Republicans in Congress and earlier by the Bush administration, who argued that government interference to change mortgage contracts would reduce the security of all kinds of future contracts.

    “It undermines the foundation of the capitalist economy,” said Phillip Swagel, a Bush Treasury official. “What separates us from [Russian Prime Minister Vladimir] Putin is not retroactively changing contracts.”

    After narrowly passing the House, cramdown was defeated when 12 Democrats joined Republicans [6] to vote against it.

    Many Democrats in Congress said they saw this as the death knell for the modification program, which would now have to rely on the cooperation of banks and other mortgage servicers to help homeowners.

    “I never thought that it would work on a voluntary basis,” said Rep. Lofgren.

    At the time that the new administration was frustrating proponents of cramdown, the administration was putting its energies into creating a voluntary program, turning to a plan already endorsed by the banking industry. Crafted in late 2008, the industry plan gave banks almost complete freedom in deciding which mortgages to modify and how.

    The proposal was drafted by the Hope Now Alliance, a group billed as a broad coalition of the players affected by the mortgage crisis, including consumer groups, housing counselors, and banks. In fact, the Hope Now Alliance was headquartered in the offices of the Financial Services Roundtable, a powerful banking industry trade group. Hope Now’s lobbying disclosures were filed jointly with the Roundtable, and they show efforts to defeat cramdown and other mortgage bills supported by consumer groups.

    The Hope Now plan aimed to boost the number of modifications by streamlining the process for calculating the new homeowner payments. In practice, because it was voluntary, it permitted servicers to continue offering few or unaffordable modifications.

    The plan was replaced by the administration’s program after just a few months, but it proved influential. “The groundwork was already laid,” said Christine Eldarrat, an executive adviser at the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which regulates Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. “Servicers were onboard, and we knew their feelings about certain guidelines.”

    As an official Treasury Department account of its housing programs later put it, “The Obama Administration recognized the momentum in the private sector reflected in Hope Now’s efforts and sought to build upon it.” It makes no mention of cramdown as being needed to compel compliance.

    Ultimately, HAMP kept the streamlined evaluation process of the Hope Now plan but made changes that would, in theory, push servicers to make more affordable modifications. If servicers chose to participate, they would receive incentive payments, up to $4,000, for each modification, and the private investors and lenders who owned the loans would also receive subsidies. In exchange, servicers would agree to follow rules for handling homeowner applications and make deeper cuts in mortgage payments. Servicers who chose not to participate could handle delinquent homeowners however they chose.

    The program had to be voluntary, Treasury officials say, because the bailout bill did not contain the authority to compel banks to modify loans or follow any rules. A mandatory program requires congressional approval. The prospects for that were, and remain, dim, said Dodd. “Not even close.”

    “The ideal would have been both [cramdown and HAMP],” said Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), then the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. But given the political constraints, HAMP on its own was “better than nothing.”

    “We designed elegant programs that seemed to get all the incentives right to solve the problem,” said Karen Dynan, a former senior economist at the Federal Reserve. “What we learned is that the world is a really complicated place.”

    The program was further limited by the administration’s concerns about using taxpayer dollars to help the wrong homeowners. The now-famous “rant” by a CNBC reporter [7], which fueled the creation of the Tea Party movement, was prompted by the idea that homeowners who had borrowed too much money might get help.

    Candidate Obama had portrayed homeowners in a sympathetic light. But the president struck a cautious note when he unveiled the plan in February 2009 [8]. The program will “not rescue the unscrupulous or irresponsible by throwing good taxpayer money after bad loans,” said Obama. “It will not reward folks who bought homes they knew from the beginning they would never be able to afford.”

    While the government had been relatively undiscriminating in its bank bailout [9], it would carefully vet homeowners seeking help. HAMP was written to exclude homeowners seen as undeserving, limiting the program’s reach to between 3 million and 4 million homes.

    In order to prove their income was neither too high nor too low for the program, homeowners were asked to send in more documents than servicers had required previously, further taxing servicers’ limited capacity. As a result, some servicers say eligible homeowners have been kept out. According to one industry estimate [10], as many as 30 percent more homeowners would have received modifications without the additional demands for documentation.

    A lot of the program is focused on “weeding out bad apples,” said Steven Horne, former Director of Servicing Risk Strategy at Fannie Mae. “Ninety percent is not focused on keeping more borrowers in their homes.”

    *********************************************

    imho…this whole thing is such a racket…and sadly on all sides…our govt and treasury gave tons of money to the banks with no regulation at all…and as the article states expecting them to “voluntarily” help the people that many of them were actually screwing…under the facade of ‘weeding out the bad apples’ the banks were allowed to practice what I call essentially ’eminent domain’ and steal homes from people, including military families that we are now hearing about…and that is against the law…but that didn’t stop the banks…

    …and sadly the racket also includes some of the foreclosure defense attorneys as well…I had a chance to see the inside of that set up because of a project I worked on…and all i can say is for the most part, the people, the struggling middle class, is getting screwed from all sides…they have to shell out large retainers on a monthly basis for long periods of time…money that these families could be using to chip away at mortgages…and often all they get for this retainer is some legal assistant performing a administrative task…and believe me, many of them do not want this “problem” to go away…it is one big game…

    this is not meant to bash attorneys…but there really are few champions on the side of the struggling middle class…just a bunch of people with their hands grabbing at the pie…

  90. I just checked Drudge and all the left hand headlines are about lack of energy causing problems across the country from Texas to New Mexico to California and Arizona.

    One reads, “Obama’s blocking of new plants triggers nationwide blackouts.”

    There’s a contempt of order against the government over the failure to lift the oil moratoiums issued after the BP oil spill. The government has just ignored the order.

    I’m beginning to wonder if energy needs could be BO’s waterloo.o;,v

  91. Read about the contempt order at Malkin. Here’s an excerpt.

    The Interior Department’s Culture of Contempt
    by Michelle Malkin
    Creators Syndicate
    Copyright 2011

    Oops, they did it again. President Obama’s grabby-handed environmental bureaucrats have earned yet another spanking from the federal judiciary over their “determined disregard” of the rule of law. Isn’t it time to give these misbehaving government hooligans a permanent timeout?

    Federal judge Martin Feldman in Louisiana excoriated the Obama Interior Department Wednesday for defying his May 2010 order to lift its groundless ban on offshore oil and gas drilling in the Gulf. Nine months later, not a single permit has been issued. Several deepwater platforms have moved out of the area to take their businesses — and an estimated 5,000 jobs — overseas. Billions of dollars in potential oil revenue and Gulf lease sales-related rent have also dried up.

    Interior Secretary Ken Salazar — a.k.a. The Loathsome Cowboy — thumbed his nose at the judge’s preliminary injunction last June and dragged his feet into July, when his bureaucracy lost its bid for a stay from the U.S. Court of Appeals. Salazar then concocted a second “revised” moratorium to replace the one Feldman had nullified as “arbitrary and capricious, and therefore, unlawful.” The second deepwater drilling ban (which oil spill czar Michael Bromwich admitted was “roughly congruent with the original moratorium”) was “lifted” in October, but still no permits were issued.

    This is because Team Obama’s eco-radicals never intend to approve them.

  92. Jim Adams, president and CEO of the Offshore Marine Service Association (OMSA), noted the massive gap between Obama’s words and actions this week: “[T]housands of workers are out of jobs, Americans are paying more for gasoline and heating oil, and our nation is becoming even more dependent on unstable nations for our energy needs. President Obama talks a lot about jobs and energy independence. Now it’s time for him to back up his words with action and call off his de facto moratorium. Americans want an end to this manmade disaster.”

  93. For what it is worth, I just had lunch with old friends who were in town to run in a marathon. He was working in Iran at the time of that revolution. He recounted for me what it was like. I will spare you the gory details of that one. Instead, I will tell you what he sees in this one. On the one hand, he sees the uprising as the fruits a foreign policy based on friendly dictators and he reminded me that this was a rendition nation during the Bush era. But in addition to that, he sees gross incompetence by the Obama Administration, in failing to anticipate these developments and provide for an orderly transition. At almost every point in the decision tree, Obama has made the wrong choice, and his people have given contradictory responses. In addition, he sees several results flowing from this res gestae–none of which are good for America: i) a take over by radical forces, ii) the spreading of similar revolutions in neighboring countries, iii) the rise of Chinese and Iranian influence, iv) the potential collapse of foreign policy, v) the sharp rise in energy prices which will further depress our staggering economy. These are the things big media will not discuss, while they continue fanning the flames.

  94. Sensible analysis from The Financial Times: the United States and others pressure Mubarak to step down now, it will lead to “a long period of instability in the country.” And, not only in Egypt, but possibly other countries in the region as well.
    —————————————

    An Egyptian Warns the United States to Back Off
    By Liz Peek
    Published February 03, 2011

    A Muslim sheikh and a Coptic cleric wave an Egyptian flag and a poster for President Mubarak during a march in Cairo, Egypt, Wednesday, Feb.2, 2011. Thousands of people marched in support of Mubarak Wednesday morning, hours after he made a defiant speech promising to serve out the last months of his term and “die on Egyptian soil.”. Arabic read ” yes for Mubarak”. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)
    Shafik Gabr was one of President Obama’s greatest fans eighteen months ago. Today, as Mr. Obama presses for the immediate resignation of President Hosni Mubarak, not so much. “The United States is siding with chaos if they force Mubarak out now,” says Gabr.

    Gabr is the Chairman of the Artoc Group for Investment and Development, one of Egypt’s leading businesses. He has spent a good portion of his adult life trying to educate Americans about his country — its peace pact with Israel and record on women’s rights, for instance, that distinguish Egypt from many of its neighbors.

    He has hosted scores of business and government leaders from the Middle East and the U.S. at his forums in Washington and Cairo, visited with dozens of Congressmen, invited members of the media to attend President Obama’s 2009 Cairo speech; in short, he has acted as an ambassador for his country at a very high level. His ambition – bringing our two peoples closer together – is not strictly altruistic. He recognizes that closer ties to the west foster Egypt’s growth and boosts the fortunes of companies like his.

    He is, needless to say, sickened by recent developments. He is also alarmed at the response by the Obama administration. “If the transfer of power happens today, the mobs will rule,” he warns. “It will be similar to the circumstances that brought Hamas to power in Gaza.”

    Mr. Gabr recognizes the legitimacy of the protests. He is not mindlessly backing the current regime, but says that the peaceful rally that began several days ago on the streets of Cairo has been hijacked by those with vested interests – specifically the Muslim Brotherhood. He reports that the initial group who received official permission from the police to hold their demonstration, focused on four issues: They demanded a path to democratic elections, programs aimed at reducing unemployment, a lid on rising food and fuel prices and an end to corruption. All these ambitions are supported by the majority of Egypt’s people, according to Gabr.

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    Over Jerusalem’s Dome of the Rock Shrine Stepmother of Dismembered North Carolina Girl Married 7 Times Two days later, seizing the moment, a second group asked permission to demonstrate, and was turned down. That brought on a clash between protesters and the police, which coincided with the torching of 29 police stations across the country. Simultaneously, four prisons were seized and the inmates released. In response, the president addressed the country for the first time, but failed to satisfy the demands of the people.

    Mubarak’s second speech, in which he vowed to hand off leadership through elections in September, did meet the expectations of the majority, according to Gabr. It is, he says, the change that the country wants – a peaceful transfer of power through the ballot box. He reports that after the speech many of the demonstrators were willing to disband.

    “People are not getting paid” says Gabr. “Ordinary Egyptians want a return to normality.”

    Unhappily, the Muslim Brotherhood, which Gabr describes as well organized, refuses to back down. “They want to create upheaval in this country” he says. “Peaceful demonstrators don’t throw Molotov cocktails.”

    He is also skeptical of the pro-democracy credentials of the Muslim Brotherhood. “They will not even negotiate with the administration until Mubarak leaves” he notes. “How is that democratic?”

    Gabr would like to see an election date set for September, and the contest overseen by international observers. He believes if the country has time to prepare for the changeover, the Muslim brotherhood will be defeated. This is the process that, in his view, should be supported by everyone, including the United States.

    If, on the other hand, the United States and others pressure Mubarak to step down now, it will lead to “a long period of instability in the country.” And, not only in Egypt, but possibly other countries in the region as well.

    This is not the first time Mr. Gabr has been disappointed by President Obama. Many in the Middle East responded euphorically to the Cairo speech. Six months later, Gabr was distressed that so few of the initiatives contained in that address, meant to reset relations with the Muslim world, had been pushed forward. While never optimistic that peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians would succeed, Gabr hoped to see other programs, such as broader student exchanges and less restrictive visa policies for Middle Eastern businessmen, flourish. Unhappily, as he said at the time, the lack of follow-up led “Arab Main Street to suspect that it was all just rhetoric.”

    There are many loud voices in Egypt just now; the United States should not necessarily be responsive to the loudest. Mr. Gabr is not alone in urging caution – the Israelis are also weighing in. In its desire to appear on the right side of populism and democracy, the Obama administration could well end up contributing to a political vacuum in Egypt, and collapse of human rights.

  95. KUHNER: Obama empowers radical Islam
    The fruits of appeasement are always more violence

    President Obama likely may have lost Egypt. If he has, it will be one of the most dramatic and devastating foreign policy defeats for the United States in decades. It also will be a significant victory for the forces of radical Islam – a blow that threatens to undermine American interests across the Middle East.

    The regime of Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak is teetering on the brink. He is a spent force. He will be out of office by September, if not much sooner. His son Gamal, who was groomed to be his successor, has fled to London. The rampaging mobs in Cairo and Alexandria dominate the political landscape. They represent the future, Mr. Mubarak the past.

    The downfall of the Mubarak regime should come as no surprise. He has led a corrupt police state for decades. Egypt’s political system is closed. Its statist economy is sterile. The security services imprison and murder dissidents. Mr. Mubarak came to resemble an ancient Egyptian pharaoh: a power-hungry dictator insulated by the luxury and wealth of his lavish court palace. As he grew fat and old, the people bristled under his harsh rule.

    The authoritarian status quo was unsustainable. Yet Washington’s foreign-policy establishment – wedded to the illusion of “stability” – propped up Mr. Mubarak’s regime. America has sent Egypt more than $1.2 billion in annual military aid. Washington provided Mr. Mubarak with the weapons – and support – he needed to suppress political opposition and violate human rights. The United States became an accessory to an unpopular, brutal dictatorship. This is why the mobs on the streets of Cairo hate America. We are paying the price for our pact with the devil.

    Years ago, Washington should have encouraged civil society and political reform. America could have fostered a secular democratic opposition. Instead, by blindly backing Mr. Mubarak, the United States enabled the most militant, unified and organized Islamist party to take advantage of the growing discontent: the Muslim Brotherhood.

    It is the Brotherhood’s supporters who fill the ranks of the protesters. The Muslim Brotherhood very likely will join a national unity government and eventually seize control. Its goal is to erect a Sunni version of Iran’s Shiite theocracy. It champions the hatred of America, war with Israel and a global jihad against the West. It supports Hamas in the Gaza Strip and other terrorist groups. In short, the post-Mubarak regime most probably not only will be anti-Western but will have ties to al Qaeda and Iran’s mullahs.

    Egypt is not some strategic backwater; it is not Yemen, Tunisia or Jordan. Rather, it is the cultural linchpin of the Arab world – the France of the region. For centuries, Egypt has been a trendsetter. In literature, art, radio, cinema, industrialization, nationalism and mass politics, it was Egyptians who showed the way for other peoples of the Middle East. If the land of the pharaohs should go Islamic, it will reverberate across the entire region. The balance of power will tip irreversibly into the hands of Muslim hard-liners.

    Mr. Obama is repeating the fatal mistake of President Carter in 1979. Mr. Carter dithered about whether to back the shah in Iran. Although a ruthless despot, the shah was a pro-American strategic ally. Mr. Carter eventually withdrew U.S. support in the face of massive street protests, delivering Iran to the apocalyptic ayatollahs. Iran’s clerical rulers have proved to be much more murderous and repressive than the shah ever was. Moreover, the Iranian regime is the greatest sponsor of terrorism in the world. It is a fanatical anti-American, anti-Semitic state that is on the verge of acquiring the nuclear bomb. Mr. Carter’s decision not only condemned the Iranian people to an Islamic fascist theocracy but allowed a mortal enemy of the West to seize power.

    History is repeating itself. By publicly standing with the demonstrators – albeit belatedly – Mr. Obama has betrayed a key U.S. partner whose collapse likely may usher in a gang of medieval Islamist butchers. The cause of human rights and democracy will be set back even further under the Muslim Brotherhood – buried under the corpses of religious cleansing. After ignoring Egyptian secular-opposition activists for his entire presidency, Mr. Obama now decides to throw in his lot with militant Muslims. Administration officials already have reached out to top leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood to discuss an orderly transition to power.

    Mr. Obama’s appeasement policies are naive and dangerous. Their net effect has been to embolden and strengthen radical Islam. Under his watch, Muslim extremists are on the march. Egypt is about to fall. Hezbollah controls Lebanon. Iraq is ravaged with suicide bombings, while Christian sects are being exterminated. The Taliban are surging in Afghanistan. Entire regions of Pakistan are infested with jihadists. Turkey is becoming more fundamentalist.

    The riots in Egypt reveal the bankruptcy of Mr. Obama’s Muslim outreach strategy. It was in Cairo in 2009 that he apologized for America’s supposed sins, vowing a new U.S.-Islamic partnership. The Arab street, however, rightly does not respect a leader who speaks ill of his own nation on foreign soil. Mr. Obama’s speech – and his subsequent policies – have demonstrated his complete failure to confront the rising tide of political Islam. His foreign policy is a disaster. American power and prestige are in decline. The vacuum is being filled by the new barbarians who are coming to power in Cairo.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/3/obama-empowers-radical-islam/

  96. As a liberal, I have a very hard time with the idea that I’m not supposed to care about a potential government that is oppressive to minorities and women. I also do not support theocracies—Muslim, Christian or otherwise even if they aren’t fundamentalist. If find it strange that so many American liberals aren’t concerned about the Muslim Brotherhood’s stated mission to “spread Islam.” It’s hard to imagine them being so unconcerned about a Christian political group with the stated mission of establishing a Christian theocracy gaining power in a new government.
    ********
    Let’s get some money together and make a commercial with Daniel Pearl’s beheading..sans the actual of course…maybe then they will remember…I do. I am for it. Anyone know how to do this?
    let

  97. Obama cannot be trusted. He cannot be trusted by his friends. He cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama simply cannot be trusted

    More selling out and backstabbing of our closest allies, just so he can have a photo-op signing something:

    Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.
    Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.

    The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html#

    This fucker sold out the UK in a slimy, secretive, underhanded way to get his meaningless START treaty. God, I never thought I could despise a president more than GWB, but this guy takes the cake.

  98. But in addition to that, he sees gross incompetence by the Obama Administration, in failing to anticipate these developments and provide for an orderly transition.
    ******

    Does that include Hillary, did she not know what the hell was going on in Egypt?

  99. Shadowfax,
    I certainly think Hillary is trying to hold things together while Odumbo and Jarrett call everyone racist’s and continue to blow money while the nation suffers…..I wonder how long it will be before Hillary blows her lid??? She is trying her best to salvage the nation….and I also think Gates is trying all he can to help, but these folks that are running this nation are BAD and I believe they are connected to the Muslim Mafia!

    Only time will tell,but someday I hope the people in this country understand what Hillary and Bill have REALLY done for us thru some pretty fucking hard times with the rethugs and now with this idiot and both his wives!

  100. gonzotx,
    I believe Hillary is trying to hold things together with her hands tied behind her back and a gag in her mouth!

  101. basil9
    February 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    +++++++
    They think they can force us to alternative energy. Have u noticed the blinding light given from those solar lights in the yards?

  102. And BTW, one of the objections that many GOP senators had with START II was that the Whitehouse refused to let them see the record of the negotiating. Only the final document, but not the horse-trading that led to it. That has not happened before, and they were rightly suspicious.

    Well, if he was trading away stuff like this, to get that piece of paper and another “historic” photo for his collection, no wonder they were freaking suspicious.

  103. Confloyd
    I wonder how long it will be before Hillary blows her lid??? She is trying her best to salvage the nation….and I also think Gates is trying all he can to help, but these folks that are running this nation are BAD and I believe they are connected to the Muslim Mafia!

    Only time will tell,but someday I hope the people in this country understand what Hillary and Bill have REALLY done for us thru some pretty fucking hard times with the rethugs and now with this idiot and both his wives!
    —–

    When Hillary went before the press and read that little speech yesterday, that is just how she looked to me.
    As someone pointed out, I think it was Moon, she looked ticked off.
    She also looked like she had just had a big fight with someone and they shoved her in front of a camera and said, “Read this!”

    She did not appear to be speaking her own words, kind of how she talks while looking like she is struggling with what she is doing and couldn’t put an once of heart into it.

    Like she does when she says she is really not interested in being our President. Wants to stay home and write a book….

    I think Hillary is about at the end of her rope with the stupidity of Barry and his little wives and I am wondering when she won’t play their game any longer.

  104. She also looked like she had just had a big fight with someone and they shoved her in front of a camera and said, “Read this!”—————-

    Exactly how she appeared to me, as well.

  105. moononpluto: “Egyptians now chanting: “Obama must step down!”

    moononpluto: “Egyptians now chanting: “Obama must step down!”

    moononpluto: “Egyptians now chanting: “Obama must step down!”

  106. H4T,
    Me too. I can’t blame her, but you know I think she really believes in heart the nation will suffer if she were to quit, which it would. It really pisses me off when people say she is one and the same as Obama…she’s not, no way, no how, no Obama-like!

  107. Hillary need to Resign you can’t defend her and knock Obama down ESP if she is part of the administration. I love my clintons but I just can’t turn a blind eye to this. Obama is the boss…..PERIOD

  108. I heard of the speech hillary did from listening to Michael savage and he even said Hillary look like somebody just through her out there and reading cue cards and that he knows she should know better.

  109. confloyd, I love her, but I DO blame her to some extent. She’s a grown woman. She needs to step away from this trainwreck before she turns into “I went along even though I disagreed because I thought I could be the sane voice behind the scenes” Colin Powell. There reaches a point where the trade-off is not worth it, and you are abetting the insanity, not being a curb on it.

  110. Something is happening

    FOX News reports: Assassination attempt on Egyptian VP kills 2 bodyguards, sources say

  111. Internal power struggle? That would be my best guess, i think there are 2 sepereate Egypian Govts right now.

  112. moon, the VP is not the puppet that the muslim brotherhood wanted in. Betcha anything it was them. They’ve got a deal with the other guy, the VP not so much.

    Heck they are the fuckers that assassinated Anwar Sadat.

  113. DEVELOPING: A failed assassination attempt on Egypt’s vice president in recent days left two of his bodyguards dead, U.S. sources tell Fox News, though that information has yet to be confirmed on the ground in Cairo.

    Such an attempt on the life of Omar Suleiman would mark an alarming turn in the uprising against the government of President Hosni Mubarak, who only recently named Suleiman as vice president in an effort to quell the unrest and possibly line up a successor.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined to address the assassination reports when asked by Fox News.

    “I’m not going to … get into that question,” Gibbs said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/04/egypt-vp-targeted-assassination-attempt-killed-bodyguards-sources-tell-fox-news/#ixzz1D2VCo9GT

  114. Sadat was done by Mubarak himself, you can guarantee that one, same whats going on her with Suleiman, you always keep your worst enemy right at your side so you can keep an eye on the fucker.

    There is a power struggle between the VP and the Mubaraks, you can bet your ass if there was a an assassanation attempt on Suleiman, look no further than Mubarak jr, Gamal.

  115. That fucker Gibbs, he lives on our taxes…I can’t stand the SOB. I will be soooo glad when this administration is gone…it needs to be thrown out on its ear!

    Mubarak is still there I guess….shit I bet he’s not sleeping very well and I hope he’s got some food tasters…hell they poisoned Arafat….these people are capable of anything!

    This is why people like Sadamm and Mubarak have to keep the power the way they do….it’s like that at the insane asylm…you rule with an iron fist…same way in prison…when your dealing with nut cases this is what has to be done.

    Obama is just as crazy as those MB’s…and he’s got the reins of the US with the help of Ayers and Bernadette…you know I heard that those two were in Egypt. Soros likes to watch from his secret place….he doesn’t get any blood on his hands!

  116. Sadat was done by Mubarak himself

    —————

    moon, Sadat was killed by the jihadis, and Mubarek for all his faults despised the jihadis and has actually cracked down hard on them.

    The attackers included four enlisted men, an army major and a lieutenant. The major and two enlisted men were killed in the swarm around the reviewing stand, once other members of the military realized what was taking place. The rest were arrested. The attackers would eventually come to be identified as Islamist nationalists associated with the Muslim Brotherhood under the name of Islamic Jihad.

    The group was subsequently found to have hatched the assassination plot with Al Gamaa al-Islamiyya, a Brotherhood offshoot that would , in the mid-1990s, develop ties with al-Qaeda and be chiefly responsible for the 1997 terrorist attack in Luxor on Nov. 17, 1997, when six men dressed in black attacked tourists visiting the famous site in Upper Egypt. Sixty-two men, women and children were killed.

    Among the group’s leaders: Ayman al-Zawahiri, subsequently al-Qaeda’s Number 2. Zawahiri was tried and imprisoned for three years for his role ion the plot, then expelled from Egypt.

  117. CNN just showed a video where Gabrielle Gifford’s husband Mark Kelly said he will fly on the next space shuttle mission and he is confident that she will be well enough to attend the launch at Kennedy Center. Wow.

  118. BigCat, just watch Obama stick his nose in there and invite himself, hell, he’ll probably push her wheelchair for a phot-op. Glad to think he thinks she’ll be better.

  119. CNN seems to be pushing for the Muslim Brotherhood to take over in Egypt. First they had Fareed Zakaria on who said all the negative information about the MB was just fear talking. That was followed by an interview with Bill Nelson (Fla) on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate. King asked him if he believed the MB when they said they will not run for election in Egypt. Nelson said no he did not believe them and John King almost came across the table to attack Nelson. Nelson held his ground and said he still did not believe them. CNN following orders from the WH?

  120. Yeah, its all a lie, if she were really better she wouldn’t have gotten trached and be still on a respirator.

    She is not even breathing on her own….just like Christipher Reeves…I’d rather be dead!

  121. BCL,
    My dad has been doing that for 4 hours…I think we are going under the house tomorrow and shake the drain pipes a little….prolly has a little grease stuck in there with the ice. If its not one thing its another….it suppose to warm up tomorrow and more snow on Tuesday….

  122. Yeah Confloyd, surely after a gunshot to the head, there must be some, nerve, motor damage, memory problems and the like, she’ll be lucky to get 50% working again properly.

  123. Moon,
    Yes and she was smart and beautiful and a jew…its such a shame! It’s been a lie all along…cover up the real story is what Obama is good at doing….putting whipped cream on shit…that’s what he’s good for….more and more people are realizing this.

    I can’t imagine how he’ll get re-elected unless they fill the stadiums with paid revelers and punch in their own numbers in the voting machines…oh wait..isn’t that what they did the last time???

  124. So Obama is still being a Post Turtle on Egypt, sitting up there with no clue what to do, treading air.

    By the wya, the Sq is still packed with many thousands.

  125. moononpluto
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
    ******

    How do we know this to be truth? Anything can be planted by anyone

  126. gonzotx, dont you know, 98 of all AA’s are supporting him, Powell just went with the flow to be cool.

  127. Hmmm.. Is this the Spanish civil war? I think not…
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    A Google executive who has gone missing in Egypt has been “symbolically” named the spokesman for an opposition group, in an attempt to free him from being held by Egyptian authorities, CBS News reports.

    Wael Ghonim, Google’s head of marketing for the middle east, flew into Egypt last week to participate in the demonstrations against the government. At some point he went missing, and one of his last tweets ominously read, “we are all ready to die.”

    The Egyptian government will not comment on whether it has Ghonim or not, but many suspect he is being held.

    The demonstration where he Ghonim may have been captured was organized “largely” by the April 6 movement, CBS News reports. The April 6 movement is a youth movement in Egypt formed almost three years ago.

    To help free him, April 6 named him their spokesman. The Egyptian government says it wants to start to talk with opposition groups, but the leader of the April 6 group says if the Egyptian government wants to talk, then it has to talk to Ghonim.

    It’s a very odd, showy, act and from here we have no idea what it means.

    Hopefully, Ghonim is alright. Google has no idea about his whereabouts, and it has a hotline and email address set up for any t

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/02/04/businessinsider-missing-google-exec-egypt-2011-2.DTL#ixzz1D2fyTdPZ

  128. Oh Jesus…..
    *************

    Obama Botches Bible Quote; Media Matters Botches Defense
    —Ace

    I don’t really care a lot that Obama missed a clause in a Bible verse. (He missed the part about “renews their strength” and went right into “soar on wings like eagles.”)

    But what is Media Matters being paid for? In spinning for the Divine One who can Maketh No Error, they claim, gee whiz, these winguts apparently don’t know there is more than one version of the Bible, and Obama was quoting accurately from the New International Version.

    Media Matters opines:

    This would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.
    And to prove Obama accurately quoted the New International Version they link the passage in question, which confirms the “renews their strength” part is absent in that translation which also contains the “renews their strength” part, proving that Obama did indeed botch this version of the quotation as well.

    They are linking that to prove he accurately quoted from it, apparently not bothering to click on the link themselves and discover, nope, he was wrong according to that version, too.

    As Media Matters says:

    This would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.
    I heareth thee, brother. I feeleth thee.

    Question: Media Matters is so stupid and makes so many grotesque errors like this — do you think it’s possible they’re smart enough to plan these errors just to drive traffic to their site?

    Gotta be some reason for the stupidity.

    Ahem: “pastordan” at “Religious Dispatches,” which seems to be one of those left-wing fake evangelical organizations that’s so hot for Obama, makes the same error, following Media Matters.

    But like this is supposedly a religious website, right? Unlike Media Matters, they pretend to have a familiarity with the text, right?

    So how come they don’t bother to check the quote either?

    They also get quite huffy that these wingnuts don’t understand their Bibles the way the leftwingnuts do.

  129. Just what does it take to get Obama to do something, WW3.

    No public appearances this weekend by Pres. Obama, though he appears in a taped interview with Fox’s Bill O’Reilly.

    Serious, i forgot, only the whole middle east is falling to crap, I’ll go golfing?

  130. and not to forgot, his celebrity Superbowl party, gee, i do hope he can fit in that pesky middle east somewhere.

  131. Moon,
    To think we pay this bastard for this kind of work ethic, it just really goes against my grain. Americans are working harding than ever to make a living and we pay this SOB for this kind of work ethic…this all started under GWB…My parents taught me that when someone pays you for work….you actually do the job….apparently BO thinks he is a King and not a President!

    What is this with Bambi’s eyes…is he giving signals to the MB with all that blinking or what??? Where’s is our CIA guy on this???

  132. So the Grrek Pres is going to see Mubarak representing the Eu, he’s going to wag his finger and go “you’ve been a very naughty boy”

    Yeah that’ll tell him, he’s bound to listen.

    What are these politicians on.

  133. and now…

    Mubarak Backers Target Journalists as ‘Jews’

    Friday, February 4, 2011

    Convinced by state television that foreign journalists may be Israeli spies, supporters of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak are attacking members of the press on the streets of Cairo while screaming “Yehudi,” Arabic for “Jew.”

    Government-sanctioned violence and intimidation against journalists peaked late in the week as dozens of foreign reporters were arrested and their equipment seized by police.

    Earlier Thursday, ABC News reporter Brian Hartman and his crew were carjacked and threatened with beheading on a road between Cairo’s airport and the city’s downtown area.

    “We thought we were goners,” he said after the ordeal. “We absolutely thought we were doomed.”

    Fox News reports that two of its employees, Greg Palkot and his cameraman Olaf Wiig, were severely beaten and hospitalized in Egypt on Thursday.

    As John Roberts reported on the air on Thursday: They were forced to leave their position when a Molotov cocktail was thrown at it, a large fire erupted. They were forced to flee. They ran out and ran right into the pro-Mubarak crowd and were severely beaten, beaten to the point that they had to be taken to the hospital.

    They were taken to the hospital, spent the night in the hospital. The extent of their injuries was fairly grave, however, they have been released from the hospital.

    The source then told The Wrap that after leaving the hospital, the two were detained by military police, who accused the pair being Israeli spies. “Palkot was blindfolded throughout,” the source said.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/mubarak-jews.php

  134. At this point I think Hillary is in a no-win situation. If she stays, she is tainted with the same damn brush as obama. And if she goes, he and the dims will trash her, blame her, use her as a scapegoat for all his evil and selfish mistakes, and then and only then throw her under the bus and have it drive right over her.

  135. gonzotx
    February 4th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
    Colin Powell.
    ********
    He still is nuts and promotes the fraud any chance he gets. Despise him
    **********************
    Powell is a liar many times over and plays the ‘I’m a repubican, but I think obama is doing a good job’ game over and over. Bill Clinton asked Powell to join his administration and Powell said his wife did not want him to go into politics, then when Bush was appointed in 2000, Powell was sitting right there beside him for the photo op. He lied about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction and his son Michael Powell had to leave his patronage job as head of the FCC after he did some really slimy things. I’m astonished that some people still think Powell is a really swell guy.

  136. JanH
    February 4th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    At this point I think Hillary is in a no-win situation.

    So do I, I can’t even imagine how Hillary is feeling. All I do is sit here and read and I am ready to crawl under my bed and stay there.

    My hope is that Admin will post a new column and tell us how this can all come out right. Should I say Super-Admin.

  137. Confloyd, been at the doctors all day with Mom. With all the weather cancellations, 2 hr wait to be seen. Ehen errands on the way home before the next storm tomorrow. An all day affair.

    They are predicting heavy rains tomorrow. That means flooding for people living near rivers. The temp here overnight has been in the single digits- 3 degrees last night. Nothing is melting, city traffic rerouted to East Japeepee. Taking forever to get from point A to point B. Marketing tomorrow before the rains begin late morning.
    __________________________

    confloyd
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Yes, I agree fully. At least Hillary is witness to the goings on between Obama and Jarrett. Don’t forget, Jarrett is not only Soros’ mouth-piece but she is the mover of the chess pieces on the WH board game. (Too funny! you called her his 2nd wife!) 🙂

  138. JanH
    February 4th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    KUHNER: Obama empowers radical Islam
    The fruits of appeasement are always more violence
    ___________________________
    Excellent well written article, JanH. Thanks for posting it! 🙂

  139. gonzotx
    February 4th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Let’s get some money together and make a commercial with Daniel Pearl’s beheading..sans the actual of course…maybe then they will remember…I do. I am for it. Anyone know how to do this?
    __________________

    Good idea- How about having Mrs Pearl (with her son?) doing the commercial? She must have a publicist for her book appearances..no?

  140. the forces behind this rebellion will ultimately capitalize on it

    ==================

    Which forces do you mean? If certain people were plotting it, why didn’t they provice an easy new leader for the rest of the world to focus on?

  141. Just reading up on the blog, so many things to be pist about, so little time.

    I say, “Bullshit” to those that think Hillary is getting covered with the sink of BO, she will not run in a crisis, she will continue to be one of the only adults watching out for America and human rights.

    I betcha Hillary is gonna blow her cork soon at the ‘Administration’ if she hasn’t already.

    She may quit if Gates leaves, I think he is her buddy. She also has the Big Dawg who is great at seeing the big picture.

    Hillary is tough.

  142. JanH
    February 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Clinton offers Jordan support in ‘difficult times’
    _____________________

    I was happy to hear that- I believe King Abdullah is one of the good guys.

  143. VANITY4USA
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    Hillary need to Resign you can’t defend her and knock Obama down ESP if she is part of the administration. I love my clintons but I just can’t turn a blind eye to this. Obama is the boss…..PERIOD
    ________________________

    Of course we can defend her. And we will until she decides to resign in a time of her choosing. Hillary is doing her best, as confloyd said, “holding everything together”. All we know about what is going on behind the scenes is what we hear from the press. Things could be much worse than we could ever imagine and it’s Hillary who is the only advocate we have standing up for us. Who knows- If Hillary resigned tomorrow, we could be facing WW3.

  144. turndownobama
    February 4th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Didn’t Feinstein support Hillary quite a long time?
    ———–
    Yes she did, and one reason I still support her.
    He set up the meeting between Hillary and the jerk in her home, when Hillary was really upset over the primary and Denver corruption/drama.

    I think that might have been when he asked her if she wanted to be VP, and she said ‘No’. Maybe she told him she would take the SOS job.

    Not sure on this…

  145. moononpluto
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
    Something is happening
    FOX News reports: Assassination attempt on Egyptian VP kills 2 bodyguards, sources say
    _____________________________

    Someone is unhappy their plans have been foiled by Mubarak retaining power. I see it as a good sign Soros is not having his way.

    Otherwise, for him to step out of the shadows and give us a written lecture on his views of “how the World SHOULD spin”… he is anxious and upset things aren’t happening fast enough for him i.e. Mubarak’s departure. I know we differ on this point, but I respect your pov as well.

    Obviously, to me, the attempt on Suliman’s life indicates he will not play ball with Soros and the MBs.

  146. BigCatLover
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    CNN following orders from the WH?
    ____________________

    A..yup!

  147. confloyd
    February 4th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    I wonder if pouring salt crystals down the drain would work? Just a thought-:roll:

  148. Of course we can defend her. And we will until she decides to resign in a time of her choosing.
    ————–
    That’s for sure.
    I am not going to stop defending Hillary because BO is an idiot.

  149. I wonder if pouring salt crystals down the drain would work? Just a thought-

    —–
    If the pipes are inside, maybe the warmth will melt the ice, if outside, that’s another story.

    Salt, I don’t think that is a good idea, it may react with the copper pipes.
    Corrosion is serious.

    Did you let the water run a little bit, Confloyd?

  150. Shadow-

    Hillary and Gates are the only cabinet members we can count on who are working in our best interests.

    Just imagine-

    Hillary leaves and Lurch steps-in taking her place! {{ shudder}}

  151. Shadowfax
    February 4th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I think she has pcv pipes.. I don’t know if salt would work. I do know salt melts ice when it makes contact and if thats the case, it may, if poured down the drain burrow down deep enough to free up the water flow… mayhap-

  152. Mrs. S. Pvc, good to know.

    Here is what State Farm says about frozen pipes:

    http://www.statefarm.com/learning/loss_prevent/learning_lossprevention_frozpipes.asp

    When the mercury drops

    A trickle of hot and cold water might be all it takes to keep your pipes from freezing. Let warm water drip overnight, preferably from a faucet on an outside wall.

    Open cabinet doors to allow heat to get to uninsulated pipes under sinks and appliances near exterior walls.

    Before you go away

    Set the thermostat in your house no lower than 55°F (12°C).

    Ask a friend or neighbor to check your house daily to make sure it’s warm enough to prevent freezing or

    Shut off and drain the water system. Be aware that if you have a fire protection sprinkler system in your house, it will be deactivated when you shut off the water.

    If your pipes freeze

    Don’t take chances. If you turn on your faucets and nothing comes out, leave the faucets turned on and call a plumber. If you detect that your water pipes have frozen and burst, turn off the water at the main shut-off valve in the house; leave the water faucets turned on. (Make sure everyone in your family knows where the water shut-off valve is and how to open and close it.)

    Never try to thaw a pipe with a torch or other open flame. Water damage is preferable to burning down your house. You may be able to thaw a frozen pipe with the warm air from a hair dryer. Start by warming the pipe as close to the faucet as possible, working toward the coldest section of pipe. Do not use electrical appliances in areas of standing water because you could be electrocuted.

  153. #
    JanH
    February 4th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    Is your mom okay?
    ______________________

    As well as can be expected, Jan. Mom is one of 5 sisters and 3 of them developed dementia. There is a 30 question test for evaluating the level of dementia. She answered 18 of 30 correctly. It seems to be affecting her short term memory and she is taking memory enhancing drugs i.e. Aricept and Namenda. She did well calculating math problems, not so well knowing the simpler things, the day, the date, the season…etc.

    Overall she is in perfect health- we do not have any disease in our family. No one has ever developed the Big C, diabetes etc… actually any dabilatating health problems at all. Maybe it’s because the thing we have in common are negative blood types.

    The main reason why, when I was admitted to the hospital last year, I was afraid I was going to be an unwilling organ donor. Their eyes lit up when I gave my health history and believe me, I was frightened.

  154. Hillary is doing her best, as confloyd said, “holding everything together”. All we know about what is going on behind the scenes is what we hear from the press. Things could be much worse than we could ever imagine and it’s Hillary who is the only advocate we have standing up for us. Who knows- If Hillary resigned tomorrow, we could be facing WW3.

    ===============

    I agree. Hillary wouldn’t walk out when needed by the world. She’s not going to put her own career (if any) and her reputation above the good of so many others.

  155. This will likely cause a lot of PC hand wringing:

    “State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron”

    “The prime minister will criticise “state multiculturalism” in his first speech on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism since being elected.

    Addressing a security conference in Germany, David Cameron will argue the UK needs a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to extremism.

    Different cultures are encouraged to live apart, and objectionable views met with “passive tolerance”, he will say.

    He will also signal a tougher stance on groups promoting Islamist extremism.”
    (snip)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

  156. SHV
    February 4th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    For reasons I don’t understand, how did the UK let things get so out of hand with Muslims. Traditionally, when immigrants come to the US they gravitate to similar cultural neighborhoods. Is Sharia law such a big secret they couldn’t have come up with some sort of signed agreement such as : We have freedom of religion here any attempt at forcing Sharia Law on unwilling participants will mean deportation…and a permanent barring from entry into the country.

  157. Mrs. Smith
    February 4th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    ——————-
    My mom took aricept, had the same tests, and had short term memory loss, so I know how you feel.

    I’m glad your mom is otherwise healthy.

    I’m also very glad that you are in better health now. You are such an asset to this board.

  158. #
    gonzotx
    February 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    But in addition to that, he sees gross incompetence by the Obama Administration, in failing to anticipate these developments and provide for an orderly transition.
    ******

    Does that include Hillary, did she not know what the hell was going on in Egypt?

    I think the son Gamal was the orderly transition. Besides, Obama has sold out our allies, Egypt and Israel, probably plotted with Soros since before taking office to do it. The poor Iranians heard his dog whistle and thought he meant them. And now we learn he sold out the British. How could anyone, most especially Hillary whose only aspiration in life is to served this country, see that coming.

  159. It’s hard to imagine [liberals] being so unconcerned about a Christian political group with the stated mission of establishing a Christian theocracy gaining power in a new government.

    ==============

    US liberals don’t seem very concerned about Obama giving power to US Christian theocrats — like Stupak.

  160. The prime minister will criticise “state multiculturalism” in his first speech on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism
    —————————–
    “Things fall apart the center cannot hold.”

  161. May 2010 order to lift its groundless ban on offshore oil and gas drilling in the Gulf. Nine months later, not a single permit has been issued.

    =================

    Nice to see Obama sticking to his guns on something. Maybe he is getting money from South America for driving the drilling down to there.

  162. Is Sharia law such a big secret they couldn’t have come up with some sort of signed agreement such as : We have freedom of religion here any attempt at forcing Sharia Law on unwilling participants will mean deportation…

    But isn’t there a danger even with willing participants of Sharia being here? Many parts of Sharia are against our laws. I think we should all have to follow the same laws, and Sharia should not be allowed here, forced OR voluntary…

  163. Oh, and don’t forget, those willing participants of Sharia will have children here. Those children will be natural born citizens – they couldn’t be deported anywhere…

  164. “My mom took aricept, had the same tests, and had short term memory loss, so I know how you feel.”
    _______________

    You’ve seen it then. {hugs} Some good days and some not so good…sometimes you need the patience of a saint when the same question has been asked and answered for the fifth time. A health care worker said to me .. “she is your baby now”… and she’s right.

    This is kind of funny but Mom always calls me Rose which is not my name but that of the sister she was closest to. Her sister Rose, who is afflicted with the same condition, being a year younger than Mom, calls Mom, Helen which is not her name either but that of another one of their sisters.. My cousins and I are doing the best we can to make them as comfortable as possible. Nursing home as the last resort if she becomes bedridden. Mom’s oldest sister was 98 yrs old when after a fall hitting her head, she passed. She remained healthy as a horse but didn’t remember any of us at the end.

    *******

    Let me just say, it was a good feeling reading the information brought to the board today while I was away. Everyone feeling the same passion and concern seeing our country is heading in the wrong direction and not flinching at staying the course until this nightmare is over. Admin has given us a wonderful place for like minded people sharing and discussing information we feel important enough for all of us to know. I do appreciate the compliment and what I say and do, I wholeheartedly believe in. Do know, the feeling is mutual..

  165. The vast majority of Egyptians want a peaceful transition of power and Mubarak’s speech satisfies that objectives. Radicals, and the American Media want a spectacle of overthrowing Mubark. For that spectacle they are willing to accept the inevitable consequence of more violence and mob rule. The radicals will not back down and they will commit acts of violence to draw a violent response which big media will present in a very one sided fashion. The typical pattern. And nobody gets smarter.

  166. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe you can do what I did for my mom. She actually would remember at times that she had asked the same question many times. She would feel so bad about that. I always smiled and told her I loved talking so she could asking me stuff as often as she wanted.

    My mom had many health issues at the same time so it was a bittersweet time for us. I’m glad things are better for you mom. So much better to have short term and not long term. jmo

  167. lorac
    February 4th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    You’re right, lorac. There are so many issues to deal with it won’t be anything as simple as segregating them because of our Constitutional Laws and their children born here.

  168. “This did not start as an Islamic uprising, but the actions of the Mubarak regime have forced many of the middle class protesters off the street, and what is left is much more hard line.””

    Imo on a larger scale this is why the sooner Mub goes the better. The more he digs in the more empowered the MB become.

    =============

    Good point. Hope the idea of a temporary ‘junta’ or something can be done, asap.

  169. “The vast majority of Egyptians want a peaceful transition of power and Mubarak’s speech satisfies that objectives.”

    ———————-

    Yes but the trust isn’t there. He has made so many promises in the past and not kept them. As well, obama is pushing and pushing. In my opinion, obama is a huge cause of the escalation and I don’t think media is helping at all. Add that to the MB and their manipulations, and things are going to hell in a handbasket.

    The MB and Iran are fomenting hate and more hate. Obama just adds to it. He is involved big time and I wonder if he will ever be tried for all his crimes of world treason.

  170. No public appearances this weekend by Pres. Obama, though he appears in a taped interview with Fox’s Bill O’Reilly.

    O’Reilly did an interview with him before, totally softball. I’m sure this one will be, too. O’Reilly says he’s not going to formulate his questions until 45 minutes before the interview.

    Brett Baier did a good interview of The Fraud. So, he won’t be getting another one, I’m sure!

  171. If I were cynical I’d say it sounds like ElB wants to be in charge of the interim govt.

    =============

    Would that be a bad idea? Especially if he doesn’t want a longer stint.

  172. [Bill} Clinton has been an outspoken advocate in the past for clean energy

    ===============

    Better tell Bill it’s all a hoax.

  173. Mrs. Smith – I knew you knew that 🙂 You know those bumper stickers that say “god allows u-turns” (or something like that)? We need a big sign that says, “This country REQUIRES u-turns for Shariah believers!”

  174. JanH
    February 4th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Sorry for your Mom suffering, Jan. We can always remember the good times with them when we were kids. The holidays, vacations and family events… memories..

    “So much better to have short term and not long term.”

    That I don’t know… It’s been snowing here for a month and a half and every morning Mom asks me if it’s raining out. One good thing, weatherman predicted rain for tomorrow… she’ll hear a “yes” from me. Whether or not it will resonate with her it’s actually raining… I’ll let you know.. 🙂

  175. lol…Mrs. Smith,

    What I meant by that is she remembers all of you. She might not remember day to day, but she remembers you. For me that meant the world.

  176. “No public appearances this weekend by Pres. Obama, though he appears in a taped interview with Fox’s Bill O’Reilly.”

    ——————-

    My goodness. Such a busy weekend. Nothing could make me watch either of those slimes.

  177. confloyd
    February 4th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    Moon,
    To think we pay this bastard for this kind of work ethic, it just really goes against my grain. Americans are working harding than ever to make a living and we pay this SOB for this kind of work ethic…this all started under GWB…My parents taught me that when someone pays you for work….you actually do the job….apparently BO thinks he is a King and not a President!

    ****************************************************

    thank goodness we have Bill and Hillary Clinton working to make things right in this world…can anyone imagine what the world would be like if they were not on the world stage…

    did anyone happen to catch Bill on the Barbara Walters special tonight? OMG…this man is unbelievable…I don’t think we even knew of some of his health setbacks because he just keeps trucking on…going from one hotspot and emergency to another…all over the world doing good works…weeks after his surgery campaigning for that other traitor Kerry who now can’t wait for Hillary to step aside…

    Bill Clinton to Bosnia…to Haiti…to rescue Americans in Korea…..to help tsnaumi victims…to rescue the Democratic party…to save O’s butt…all this and open heart surgery…the man does not stop…Bill Clinton is President of the World…

    …and Hillary…O would be reduced to p—— in his pants without her and her strength and brilliance…she was robbed of her opportunity to do all the good she could do…and now has to cover for him…

    what a joke that we got stuck with him when we have Hillary and Bill, two treasures to the whole world in our lifetime

    instead with got stuck with this amateur…this faker…this poser…this lazy narcissist who would be lost…lost…without his teleprompter

  178. oh…and i forgot to mention all the Clinton charitable works and initiatives…CGI, etc that the Clintons just throw in for good measure while they are saving the world…

  179. JanH
    February 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    “What I meant by that is she remembers all of you. She might not remember day to day, but she remembers you. For me that meant the world.”
    ___________________

    I hope so, Jan. It makes the journey so much easier.

  180. S,

    I did watch him on Barbara Walters. She left the best for last and I thought, in this case, did a great interview with him.

    Like you, I didn’t know just how much he did. Doesn’t surprise me though. 🙂

  181. Jan,

    to be honest, I knew how much he did but I did not know he had so many setbacks with his heart…after that major surgery, he had fluid around his heart and then he had to go back for a stent…i did not know about the stents…

    both Bill and Hillary are such rare and truly amazing people that have given so much…and had to put up with so much…they imprint on this world just can’t even be measured…

  182. Re: the insider’s newest report. I’m reading the thread from end to the top, so before I got to the insider report, I saw someone comment on it, and sorry!, I can’t remember who it was. But they said that if Obama just sat there with a smirk during the eligibility discussion, he must have a plan to rig the elections.

    Assuming the account is truthful, I have a different interpretation. Jarrett is very close to Obama. If they have it rigged, she’d know – maybe be a part of it. She wouldn’t be worried if it’s rigged, right? (Not that I think rigging is “beneath them” – I saw it all in 2008, too)

    Anyway, another thing, if they really are spending all this time on how to minimize the issue, how to keep other states from making proof of eligibility laws, that really suggests there’s an issue, doesn’t it. It sure would be so much simpler to produce the d*mn thing….

  183. The first claim here is well known — though everyone seems to have forgotten about those Muslims since the protests began. The second claim seems likely, though I haven’t seen a good cite for it yet.


    Egyptian Muslims formed human shields to protect Coptic Christians against radical Islamists during their Christmas Mass. Egyptian Christians linked arms and shielded Muslim protesters from Mubarak’s thugs during prayers in Tahrir Square.

  184. Richardson has sealed his Governor records for at least 6 years. They are not even open to the new Governor for reference. I guess he has things to hid, and he wants some distance from them, before they are revealed. It does not play any better than the inability to produce a birth certificate, and now spending 1M+ to fight the issue.

    There obviously is something there in both instances.

  185. if they really are spending all this time on how to minimize the issue, how to keep other states from making proof of eligibility laws, that really suggests there’s an issue, doesn’t it. It sure would be so much simpler to produce the d*mn thing….

    ===================

    Especially if, as they claim, they already put it on a website. Why not just give the judge a copy, too?

    I know, because what they put on a website isn’t the ‘long form’ which is what the suits are demanding.

  186. Here’s a picture of the Muslims praying, though I don’t see any crosses on the guys protecting them. Does “GS” mean something relevant?

    http://yfrog.com/h02gvclj
    A pic I took yesterday of Christians protecting Muslims during their prayers #jan25
    posted by @NevineZaki from Twitter for BlackBerry 2 days 5 hours ago

  187. If Hillary resigned tomorrow, we could be facing WW3.”
    And what if ww3 does happen under her watch. What would you say than? You can’t have it both ways.

  188. I know, because what they put on a website isn’t the ‘long form’ which is what the suits are demanding.

    What they put on the website was also just an image – we have no idea if there is even a hard-copy SHORT form to match it – because they haven’t produced a hard-copy of the long form OR the short form. A while back I followed a link at a blog, it was a blank Hawaiian short form, and you could put any info into it you wanted. Obviously, that wouldn’t be a valid BC – and it’s no different than the image BO posted. I have no idea if this loser was born here or not. But there’s something seriously wrong that he can’t produce an actual BC.

  189. So I am a Obama supporter ? Lol oh dear. Some people go all over the place when one can’t debate sorta remind me of people that scream racist to say all of the white people that go against Obama. You people need to learn what a troll is.
    This is not a lady gaga blog this is about politics. And my once great country.

  190. Turndownobama never been on that site but I have been on this blog as vanity4hillary. And been on 2 other Hillary places before they turned into filthy Obama supporter forums(common ground and some Taylor chick ).
    I have been known as a un-pc type of Hillary supporter on the blogs.

  191. Someone is blowing up the oil terminals and pipes in Sinai, a couple on fire. These pipelines supplying Jordan and Israel….this is not good folks.

    There are reports of tankers coming under fire in Suez today also.

    Aw Bambi’s gonna be awful pissed his party is gonna get interrupted.

  192. With all this animosity towards foreigners coming from state TV, how will tourists feel welcomed/safe when they visit? Who the hell would want to go again now.

  193. At the security conference in Munich, Hillary just said “There will be a perfect storm in the Middle East if reforms do not go through”

  194. VANITY4USA
    February 5th, 2011 at 1:11 am
    If Hillary resigned tomorrow, we could be facing WW3.”
    And what if ww3 does happen under her watch. What would you say than? You can’t have it both ways.
    —————–
    Honestly, I don’t have a problem with this comment. I see it as debating back and forth.

    And I don’t know if the author is on the right blog or not. And believe it or not, I don’t want Hillary around if WW III starts. There is no way on earth that this wouldn’t be a blemish, no matter how much we try to defend her.

  195. US Cable on Genral Tantawi “This incompetent defense minister” is “running the military into the ground” & called him “Mubarak’s poodle”

    US cable: “Egypt’s military is in decline”-“sole criteria for promotion is loyalty”-“fire officers it perceives as being ‘too competent'”

    2008 US cable: Omar Suleiman is “Mubarak consigliere” was “disappointed as far back as 2007 that he had yet to be named vice president.”

  196. Heading to the mkt before the Rains of Ranchipur begin.

    Another consideration about Hillary staying- if WW3 begins.

    Hillary would never leave Bob Gates alone to fend for himself seeing War and Foreign Policy are so closely intertwined, like a hand in glove. Negotiations would begin immediately to STOP the war asap-

    LURCH is lobbying for that job…

    LURCH is so removed from reality, he couldn’t find Egypt with both hands and a map. If he is ever appointed SOS, I’m moving to Canada.

  197. Its big media stupid. Pyromaniacs.
    ————————————

    Mubarak Schools Obama
    By Larry Johnson on February 5, 2011 at 8:45 AM in Current Affairs
    * Bumped Up *

    I don’t want to minimize what has been transpiring in Egypt over the last ten days, but the media has worked overtime to tell a particular story of a people’s revolution ousting a brutal dictator. While Mubarak is in no danger of being described as an Egyptian version of Ghandi, he is not a brutal dictator by any definition. Mubarak is not a Mao, a Stalin or a Castro. He’s not even a Hugo Chavez. He has parlayed his military experience into building some solid institutional support. You don’t see the cult of personality with Mubarak in contrast to the images of Saddam that decorated Baghdad. I agree with Joe Biden, Mubarak ain’t a dictator.

    But you would not know that from the media coverage. Crikey! Mubarak is a murderous thug. Hell, his boys supposedly punched CNN’s Anderson Cooper repeatedly in the face. Sorry, but I’m not buying that hype. Yes, Anderson got chased and pushed. But pummeled? Anderson shows up on TV last night without a bruise or a black eye. I guarantee you I can punch Anderson twice in the puss and his fair face would be not too pretty for the camera. I don’t doubt he was roughed up, jostled and maybe slapped. But punched? A real punch leaves marks.

    So the global media worked itself into a froth anticipating a pulitzer prize image of Husni Mubarak running for a helicopter pursued by angry Egyptians. Obama’s White House bought into this mein and piled on, solemnly and repeatedly insisting that Mubarak was toast and the turnover started now. Only one teensy, little problem.

    The old man is not ready to go. Mubarak is an autocrat and a kleptocrat, but that does not mean he has lost his mind. But he also is dependent on the continued support of the Army. So far a majority of the Generals do not appear willing to kick the old boy to curb. That could possibly change but Mubarak does not strike me as a clueless tool like Romania’s Ceaucescu or Uganda’s Idi Amin.

    After days of 24-7 coverage, the news media has switched off the cameras monitoirng every move in Tahrir Square. Still protesters there but the feeling that the collapse of the Mubarak regime was imminent is dissipating.

    Now this does not mean Egypt is out of the woods and that tough times are over. Just the opposite. Egypt’s tourist industry is very important and the events of the last two weeks have put it in the morgue. Televised images of Egyptians hurling stones, cracking skulls and weilding clubs does not normally inspire folks to book a trip to Cairo. If the violence and protests die down in the next few days it will still take a couple of months, if not more, to get the tourists back and the dollars flowing.

    Obama’s boneheaded decision to insert himself publically into the Egyptian debate has put his prestige and that of America in peril. He says Mubarak must go NOW! Mubarak? He yawns and says he will leave when his term is up. We like to pretend that Egypt has no Constitution and no system for an orderly change of government. I am not saying that Mubarak always played fairly. Hell no. He manipulated and corrupted the system to serve himself. But the framework of the system is intact and provides a reasonable avenue for creating a legitimate successor.

    There is no evidence to support the insane belief that just because a large group of people assemble in the public square in front of the Egyptian National Museum that this represents the views of most Egyptians. If that was the case than Glenn Beck’s crowd at the Lincoln Memorial or Jon Stewart’s fans on the National Mall could each lay claim that they represented the American people. but that’s not democracy. That’s street theater.

    So Mubarak has survived another cycle of Friday prayers and is still in the saddle notwithstanding Obama’s hectoring. If you threaten to kick someone’s ass you better be able to follow thru. Otherwise when your bluff is called you get to become the most popular date in prison.

  198. -17 today……down down down it goesssssssssss

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17 (see trends).

    The president’s Approval Index ratings have fallen nine points since Monday as the crisis in Egypt unfolds. Most of the decline comes from a fall in the number who Strongly Approve of the president’s performance (30% on Monday, 23% now). However, for the first time since mid-December, the number who Strongly Disapprove has moved back over the 40% mark for five straight days. The Strongly Disapprove total had been above 40% for most of 2010 but fell to the high-30s after the president and Senate Republicans reached a deal to extend the Bush Administration tax cuts.

    Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

  199. I just realized that Sarah Palen spoke yesterday at the kick off of celebrations for Reagan’s birthday. Now I know why Soros et el decided to kick off their long planed events in Egypt. And remember this is the month the journolisters called for a black out on information about Sarah.

    “…The 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee delivered a stinging critique of Washington during her speech Friday, part of the national celebration marking the centennial of Reagan’s birth on Feb. 6….”
    By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
    The Associated Press
    Saturday, February 5, 2011; 2:52 AM
    =======

    I wish we would work out a list of actions that seem like they could be laid at Soros/Obams door as well as at any others?

    I wonder what that list would look like.

    The currency crash(? or what ever it was) when McCain started to pull ahead of Obama in the general election.

    The Media and jurnolisters, coordinated attacks on Hillary, the tea party, and Sarah Palen.

    People turning up dead.

    Trying to use the actions of a very disturbed and violent young man to curtail free speech in America.

    Trying to use those same action to demonize and ostracize their political opposition.

    Who knows maybe they moved ahead their time table to install a puppet in Egypt in order to drum out Sarah voice yesterday.

  200. jeswezey
    February 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
    admin: Sorry I’m going to have to disagree with you here about the Op-Ed and Kirsten Powers’s story. I adopt the reverse opinion of these two stories.

    It is the groundwork and conclusions of Kirsten Power’s story that is demented. She starts out knowing nothing and quickly winds up being scared mostly by wild extrapolations of what she wouldn’t want to see happen in the US, but without bothering to think or research the Egyptian side. Thumbs down.

    The Op-Ed may be a little rosy, but at least it’s based on knowledge of this nebulous entity and its history. I give it a couple of kudos.

    It’s no secret that the only reason we consider Egypt to be so important is because it is Israel’s neighbor and a potential enemy of Israel. For once, we could just let the Israelis handle this themselves and stop worrying about things in their place.

    Everything we do in the Middle East pivots around Israel. As far as the Israelis are concerned, they are the tail wagging the dog: They always do exactly what they want anyway, and the US has to back them up. This time, let them take the bull by the horns and keep our shit out of there.

    Wow….I don’t want to be rude, but I do not have enough time to write a response to this ignoant post.

  201. Mubarak actaully resigned as head of his political party but not as President. I’m speculating that he is sending the message that he will not run in Sept since he is resigning from his party.

  202. BigCatLover
    February 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    —————————–
    Correct. Big media will characterize this as a move toward capituation, but that is not what it is. It is what you say it is.

  203. More on the pipeline explosions…

    CAIRO (AFP) – Unknown saboteurs attacked an Egyptian pipeline supplying gas to Jordan, forcing authorities to switch off gas supply from a twin pipeline to Israel, an official told AFP.

    The attackers used explosives against the pipeline in the town of Lihfen in northern Sinai, near the Gaza Strip, the official said. It was initially thought the pipeline to Israel was attacked.

    “The pipeline to Jordan has been attacked and the supply to Israel has been cut off,” the official said.

    The army has taken precautionary measures to stop the fire from spreading, the official added, as rescue services were putting out the fire.

    ————
    Cutting off gas to Israel, sounds like the plan of these people…

  204. Egypt tells Iran: mind your own business

    The Associated Press
    Saturday, February 5, 2011

    CAIRO — Egypt’s foreign minister has told Iran to mind its own business after Iran’s top leader praised the Egyptian uprising as an appropriate response to dictatorial rule.

    Ahmed Aboul Gheit told reporters Saturday that Iran’s Ali Khamenei seems to have forgotten about the crushing of widespread protests in Iran two years ago.

    Aboul Gheit said Khamenei should be more attentive to calls for freedom in Iran rather than “distracting the Iranian people’s attention by hiding behind what is happening in Egypt.”

    The Egyptian foreign minister said that “Iran’s critical moment has not come yet, but we will watch that moment with great anticipation and interest.”

    Egypt has been rocked by two weeks of protests seeking the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/05/AR2011020501596.html

  205. White House delays gun reporting requirement along Mexican border

    By James V. Grimaldi
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Saturday, February 5, 2011

    White House budget officials dealt federal firearms investigators a setback Friday when they rejected an emergency request for a rule meant to help catch gunrunners to Mexico.

    The decision delays for at least two months a proposed requirement that gun dealers along the Mexican border report anyone who buys two or more assault weapons in five days. White House officials said the delay will give the public more time – until Feb. 14 – to comment on the proposal.

    Meg Reilly, spokeswoman for the Office of Management and Budget, said the decision follows President Obama’s directive to curb excessive regulation and “is consistent with the president’s call for more transparency and opportunities for public participation in his recent executive order.”

    The delay marks the second time that the rule, which is strongly opposed by the gun industry and the National Rifle Association, has been put on hold. The idea was shelved by then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel last year and was not reconsidered until after the midterm congressional elections.

    Officials with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had hoped the reporting requirement would help them track potential gunrunners – people such as accused trafficker Sean Christopher Steward, a 28-year-old Phoenix man who purchased more than 100 AK-47s in a single month.

    Steward is one of 34 people charged last week with trafficking about 700 firearms to Mexico. Over two days in early December 2009, Steward purchased 50 assault weapons at two stores. Then, on Christmas Eve, he purchased another 40 at a store in Glendale, Ariz. ATF investigators believe the weapons were meant to arm the Sinoloa drug cartel.

    ATF officials requested the rule on an emergency basis after more than 30,000 people have been killed and more than 65,000 guns from the United States have been seized during the Mexican government’s war with the drug cartels.

    This week, Mexico’s National Security Council secretary, Alejandro Poire Romero, expressed his concern about U.S. officials’ commitment to stopping guns from crossing the border. In an interview, he said, “We need an overwhelming response to prevent these cartels from buying guns in the United States.”

    Under the proposal, dealers in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas would report multiple sales of semiautomatic rifles of greater than .22 caliber with detachable magazines. Rifles such as AK-47s and AR-15s are favored by the cartels.

    ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson had hoped the rule would win broad approval. The purpose, Melson said, “is to identify criminal firearms traffickers, not to prevent the full and free exercise of our Second Amendment rights or to encumber the [dealers] with burdensome paperwork.”

    But the gun lobby rallied opposition on Capitol Hill. Three Democratic senators and 35 House members wrote to the administration opposing the rule.

    “Multiple-sales reporting for long guns is an ill-considered mandate and one that ATF does not have the legal authority to unilaterally impose,” gun industry spokesman Ted Novin said. “This reporting requirement would further burden law-abiding firearms retailers with yet another onerous regulation that would do nothing to curb crime.”

    ATF received good news earlier in the week, however, when the OMB made an unusual announcement that ATF had won a budget battle. Early budget documents obtained by The Washington Post showed that ATF would get a cut of nearly $160 million out of a $1.25 billion budget request – a 12.8 percent reduction that would be 3.6 percent below the current budget.

    “Even as we make tough choices across the government,” Reilly said, “the 2012 budget includes robust support for Southwest border security, including an increase above current funding levels for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/04/AR2011020406858.html

  206. #
    Shadowfax
    February 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    More on the pipeline explosions…

    CAIRO (AFP) – Unknown saboteurs attacked an Egyptian pipeline supplying gas to Jordan, forcing authorities to switch off gas supply from a twin pipeline to Israel, an official told AFP.

    The attackers used explosives against the pipeline in the town of Lihfen in northern Sinai, near the Gaza Strip, the official said. It was initially thought the pipeline to Israel was attacked.

    “The pipeline to Jordan has been attacked and the supply to Israel has been cut off,” the official said.
    The army has taken precautionary measures to stop the fire from spreading, the official added, as rescue services were putting out the fire.
    ————
    Cutting off gas to Israel, sounds like the plan of these people…

    ***********

    Right on schedule. I knew the oil and gas lines would be used as incendiary incentives targeting Israel and Jordan. Applying pressure, hoping to incite a wrong move from either country retaliating in blind haphazard retribution. The mud is in Soros’ eye. An epic fail on his part completing ElBaradei’s installation as president in spite of a cast of millions of protesters failing in giving Mubarak the bums rush. The old man stands firm resigning from his party as a show of faith he will not run again despite the Muslim/Soros/Brzezinski propagandists saying otherwise and plotting their next attempt at an overthrow of the old regime.

  207. Our Hillary on the job summarizing the Egyptian situation to Germany’s Angela Merkel. SMART Power looking for insight and consensus.

    If men would just butt out and spend their days playing basketball or golf; women would make the World a happy and successful place to come home to-
    ________________________

    (nice pic of Hillary talking to German Chancellor Merkel below)

    http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/2/5/201125112726258833_20.jpg

    German chancellor Angela Merkel (left) warned that rapid action in Egypt could prove counterproductive [EPA]

    Clinton warns of ‘perfect storm’

    US secretary of state says rulers in Middle East must enforce political and social reforms or face backlash.

    Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, has warned of a “perfect storm” enveloping the Middle East if leaders do not implement political and social reforms to meet the demands of their people.

    Clinton was speaking on Saturday at a high-level security conference in Munich, where EU leaders have appeared divided in their response to events in Egypt.

    The secretary of state urged European nations to join the US in pressing for broad political and economic reform in the Middle East.

    She said half measures were “untenable” as they would only breed further discontent.

    Some European leaders such as David Cameron, the British prime minister, have also called for a rapid transition in Egypt.

    However, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, fear early elections in Egypt would not be helpful and say the immediate ousting of Hosni Mubarak, the president, could lead to a power vacuum.

    ‘Strategic necessity’

    “The region is being battered by a perfect storm of powerful trends,” Clinton said.

    “This is what has driven demonstrators into the streets of Tunis, Cairo, and cities throughout the region.”

    Clinton said that Washington was backing Egypt’s drive to craft orderly reforms to allow democratic elections.

    “It is important to support the transition process announced by the Egyptian government actually headed by now-vice president Omar Suleiman,” she said.

    “The principles are very clear, the operational details are very challenging.”

    The secretary of state urged leaders across the Middle East to embrace democratic reforms in response to the growing unrest in the region, despite the risk of short-term instability in countries like Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen.

    She said change is a “strategic necessity” that will make Arab nations stronger and their people more prosperous and less susceptible to extremist ideologies.

    Addressing events in Egypt, Merkel said: “Early elections at the beginning of the democratisation process is probably the wrong approach.”

    However, Cameron said a delay would produce an unstable country that the West would not welcome.

    “There is no stability in Egypt. We need change, reform and transition to get stability,” he said at the conference.

    Obama: Mubarak must listen

    On Friday, Barack Obama, the US president, said Mubarak should “listen” to protesters calling for him to resign, but he stopped short of explicitly urging the Egyptian president to leave office immediately.

    “He needs to listen to what is voiced by the people and make a judgement about a pathway forward that is orderly, that is meaningful and serious,” Obama said in carefully worded comments on Egypt’s political future.

    Obama told reporters that in two conversations with Mubarak since mass protests against the Egyptian leader’s 30-year rule began 11 days ago he stressed the need for an orderly transition to democracy in the country, long a cornerstone of US Middle East strategy.

    “Having made that psychological break, that decision that he will not be running again, I think the most important thing for him to ask himself … is how do we make that transition effective and lasting and legitimate,” Obama said.

    “The key question he should be asking himself is: ‘how do I leave a legacy behind in which Egypt is able to get through this transformative period?’ And my hope is … that he will end up making the right decision.”

    Source:
    Al Jazeera and agencies

  208. Bambi and his British poodle dog are joined at the hip. Immediate transition they say. I expect many Republicans are of the same view. The majority of Egyptians however want stability and more gradual change which achieves stability and does not let their current economic malaise deteriorate even further. Obama’s position stands in stark contrast to the position of Germany who warns Obama that abrupt regime change will produce a power vaccuum, and may lead to dire consequences. What I see in all this is an administration that has started something it could not finish because its assumptions were all wrong, and is now attempting to retreat to the role of advisor to a pro American despot who by virtue of Obama’s personal betrayal of him will not listen. The fine words now cannot cover up the strategic mistakes which are the imprimatur of Obama.

  209. This much I can guarantee. If Mubarack stepped down tomorrow, then on the following day, Obama campaign people and their surrogates will flood into Egypt in droves, and initiate a campaign on behalf of whoever their selected candidate is. We have see this movie before. Their hubris is such that they believe they have found the magic formula on how to toppple governments, and it is the same template we saw in the campaign. It is an extension of the colors revolution model and their partner is big media. That is what this push for immediate transition is all about. They do not want the existing power structure to solidify behind a new leader because they have a fundamentally different view of who the next one should be–someone who says the right things to their cameras–another Castro perhaps.

  210. Shadowfax
    February 5th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Cute photo of Hillary, oh no……….she found her large drawer of headbands.
    _____________

    When the hair has gone to headband heaven, the very last resort for a bad hair day is a fabulous tan.

    (Boehner nothwithstanding- there is such a thing as overkill a brown leather tan.)

  211. Listening to AJ for an hour and it sounds like the whole world if falling apart, protesting in many countries from the horrible global economy.

    What crap, folks will all the money must be having a great Saturday while the masses bleed.

  212. Egypt: Why Obama should just shut up.

    A day after Obama made what most analysts called even before he made it, a senseless unnecessary public statement on Egypt, the opposite of everything Obama called for has exploded.

    From the beginning it was clear that Obama just didnt know what to say and everything he did say turned out wrong.

    Tom in Pain

  213. This is like a patter song: Obama tells Mubarak step down. Mubark tells Obama you are a fine man but you do not know what you are talking about or what will happen if I did. Obama says to the world Obama must listen. Egyptians say Obama must step down. Obama says nothing–because he knows by now that Obama has nothing to say that is worth listening to and whatever he does say now will change later. That is what he means by change.

  214. Play it again Sam. Obama changes his position so often even I get confused.

    This is like a patter song: Obama tells Mubarak step down. Mubark tells Obama you are a fine man but you do not know what you are talking about or what will happen if I did. Egyptians say Obama must step down. Obama says to the world Mubarack must listen. Mubarack says nothing in response–because he knows by now that Obama has nothing to say that is worth listening to and whatever he does say now will change later. That is what he means by change.

  215. Thats all we need Serbia going to shit now, we know how that last problems there worked out…
    —————————
    By golly, this hope and change stuff is contagious. Mexico may be next. If Obama would spy on Canada, then I see no reason why he would not depose Caldrone. After all he too who is a reprehensible dictator, contrary to American Public Opinion. Besides, Soros takes a rather benign attitude toward drugs and crony capitalism. So perhaps we should allow drug lords to run the country. After all, they too believe that dictatorship should be replaced by democracy, with the sole proviso that the drug lords would count the votes.

  216. Obama has more positions than a hooker at a Democratic Convention Hotel.
    ————————–
    And when Obama turns a trick, we ALL pay for it.

  217. Okay, I’m only 5′ 1″ and when the snow drifts reach higher than that…well oy vey. I am so very tired of snow and winter wind.

    Enough already.

  218. So tea with the wives comes in handy after all….

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/02/02/Clinton-takes-lead-in-US-Egypt-policy/UPI-45241296685037/

    The State Department said late Wednesday Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had called Egyptian Vice President Omar Soliman “to convey that today’s violence was a shocking development after many days of consistently peaceful demonstrations.”

    “The Secretary urged that the Government of Egypt hold accountable those who were responsible for violent acts,” the State Department said in a news release.”

    Clinton said the Egyptian military has exercised “restraint in the face of peaceful demonstrations” and she also urged all parties in the ongoing clashes to “recommit themselves to using only peaceful means of assembly.”

    The statement said Clinton told the Egyptian vice president she hoped “both the government and the opposition would seize the opportunity, starting immediately, for serious, meaningful negotiations about Egypt’s transition to a more open, pluralistic, and democratic government.”

    Clinton has emerged as key to the Obama administration’s handling of the crisis in Egypt, observers say. It was Clinton who suggested sending former Ambassador Frank Wisner to Cairo to tell President Hosni Mubarak he should not seek re-election, an administration official told Politico.

    She is said to have special insights into Mubarak’s behavior from years of contact with him and his wife, Suzanne.

    “Hillary knows Mubarak is a dictator, and they aren’t close friends,” a former top diplomat told Politico. “But she knows him well enough, well enough to know this guy isn’t Saddam Hussein, and he’s probably the one who told the army not to fire into the crowd.”

    Clinton is even closer to Suzanne Mubarak, supporting her efforts to reduce youth unemployment and to stop human trafficking and the genital mutilation of girls.

    Clinton drew criticism for a 2009 interview when she said, “I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States.”

    “You need someone out there who understands the complexity of this situation,” said former Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer. “And she’s one of the only people who could step in.”

  219. Hillary volleys another black eye at Obama as he stumbles and falls through another crisis created by Soros who so wanted it to end with the ball in his court. GO HILLARY!
    _________________________

    “Clinton has emerged as key to the Obama administration’s handling of the crisis in Egypt, observers say. It was Clinton who suggested sending former Ambassador Frank Wisner to Cairo to tell President Hosni Mubarak he should not seek re-election, an administration official told Politico.

    She is said to have special insights into Mubarak’s behavior from years of contact with him and his wife, Suzanne.

    “Hillary knows Mubarak is a dictator, and they aren’t close friends,” a former top diplomat told Politico. “But she knows him well enough, well enough to know this guy isn’t Saddam Hussein, and he’s probably the one who told the army not to fire into the crowd.”

    Clinton is even closer to Suzanne Mubarak, supporting her efforts to reduce youth unemployment and to stop human trafficking and the genital mutilation of girls.

    Clinton drew criticism for a 2009 interview when she said, “I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States.”

    “You need someone out there who understands the complexity of this situation,” said former Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer. “And she’s one of the only people who could step in.”
    _______________________

    Jan, you might want to read this article.

    There seems to be a ripple of stabilization going on in Egypt.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/05/egypt.protests/index.html?hpt=T1

  220. Seems like the more Barry is walking the halls as a zombie, Hillary is filling the void and doing her own job like a champ.

    I agree, GO HILLARY, GO!

  221. Shadowfax
    February 5th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Obama stumbles and Hillary sparkles. Hillary uses every crisis turning it around for a great opportunity to shine. Amazing!

    GO HILLARY GO!

  222. Mrs. Smith,

    Now if we can just put duct tape on bambi, Hillary can save the day.

    ————-
    Shadowfax,

    I was out shovelling snow for an hour…lol…it’s the heavy, slushy kind…sigh…oh well…good exercise. 🙂

  223. I just have one more room to tile…I am exhausted. Sad news I am going to have to open my pantry 8 inches wider for the doors I bought…I don’t know what I was thinking…Oh well, it won’t take that long and they’ll be better if they open to 6 feet.

    I am really getting sick of remodeling, but my kitchen look fabulous!

  224. “She is said to have special insights into Mubarak’s behavior from years of contact with him and his wife, Suzanne.

    “Hillary knows Mubarak is a dictator, and they aren’t close friends,” a former top diplomat told Politico. “But she knows him well enough, well enough to know this guy isn’t Saddam Hussein, and he’s probably the one who told the army not to fire into the crowd.”

    Clinton is even closer to Suzanne Mubarak, supporting her efforts to reduce youth unemployment and to stop human trafficking and the genital mutilation of girls.

    Clinton drew criticism for a 2009 interview when she said, “I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States.””

    Breaks my heart to see what we have in the WH and the caliber of a person we could have had in Hillary Clinton. I agree with her assement, Mubarack is an autocrat, but he is not in the relm of Saddam Hussein, by no stretch of the imagination, and he did keep the peace for 30+ years, and that cannot be dismissed.
    I hope the Egyptian people get more say in the direction of their country, I just hope it doesn’t get taken over by some radical islamic people.

  225. JanH,
    I am so ready to will my nail gun to my son in law, LOL! I still have sooo much to do, but with every project it looks better and better!

  226. Ok, I’m getting a bath and going to bed….I have worked myself into exhaustion….tomorrow is another day…LOL!

  227. JanH – shoveling snow, I haven’t done that since a winter in Tahoe many moons ago, how about just pushing it downhill? ;-0

    Confloyd, great job remodeling. I love doing it, but it is exhausing when you have a deadline…even if it’s set by yourself.
    Take it easy and sleep well.

    Mrs. S.
    Yes, Mrs Sparkles takes over for the dimly lit zombie.
    Why doesn’t he just go smoke back in Chicago and let the woman that won the election have the job SHE WON?
    Oh, that’s right, they love to spend our money on parties, vacations and sports.

  228. Bush Cancels keynote gig for Jewish Charity Gala in Switzerland

    Pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the Alpine country.

    (Reuters) – Former President George W. Bush has canceled a visit to Switzerland, where he was to address a Jewish charity gala, due to the risk of legal action against him for alleged torture, Rights Groups said on Saturday.

    Bush was to be the keynote speaker at Keren Hayesod’s annual dinner on February 12 in Geneva. But pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the Alpine country.

    Criminal complaints against Bush alleging torture have been lodged in Geneva, court officials say.

    Human rights groups said they had intended to submit a 2,500-page case against Bush in the Swiss city on Monday for alleged mistreatment of suspected militants at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. naval base in Cuba where captives from Afghanistan, Iraq and other fronts in the so-called War on Terror were interned.

    Leftist groups had also called for a protest on the day of his visit next Saturday, leading Keren Hayesod’s organizers to announce that they were cancelling Bush’s participation on security grounds — not because of the criminal complaints.

    But groups including the New York-based Human Rights Watch and International Federation of Human Rights (FIDH) said the cancellation was linked to growing moves to hold Bush accountable for torture, including waterboarding. He has admitted in his memoirs and television interviews to ordering use of the interrogation technique that simulates drowning.

    “He’s avoiding the handcuffs,” Reed Brody, counsel for Human Rights Watch, told Reuters.

    The action in Switzerland showed Bush had reason to fear legal complaints against him if he travelled to countries that have ratified an international treaty banning torture, he said.

    Brody is an American-trained lawyer specialized in pursuing war crimes worldwide, especially those allegedly ordered by former leaders, including Chile’s late dictator Augusto Pinochet and Chad’s ousted president Hissene Habre. Habre has been charged by Belgium with crimes against humanity and torture, and is currently exiled in Senegal.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/05/us-bush-torture-idUSTRE7141CU20110205

    PROSECUTE OR EXTRADITE

    “President Bush has admitted he ordered waterboarding which everyone considers to be a form of torture under international law. Under the Convention against Torture, authorities would have been obliged to open an investigation and either prosecute or extradite George Bush,” Brody said.

    Swiss judicial officials have said that Bush would still enjoy a certain diplomatic immunity as a former head of state.

    Dominique Baettig, a member of the Swiss parliament from the right-wing People’s Party, wrote to the Swiss federal government last week calling for the arrest of Bush for alleged war crimes if he came to the neutral country.

    Bush, in his “Decision Points” memoirs on his 2001-2009 presidency, strongly defends the use of waterboarding as key to preventing a repeat of the September 11 attacks on the United States.

    Most human rights experts consider the practice a form of torture, banned by the Convention on Torture, an international pact prohibiting torture and other cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment. Switzerland and the United States are among 147 countries to have ratified the 1987 treaty.

    more at link:

  229. Tsk, tsk, blowing up the oil and gas lines to Jordan and Israel haven’t gotten the desired results- Next step: The UN- Soros’ home away from home…
    ______________________

    With protests against Egypt’s president showing no sign of abating, many (the number of non-profit orgs Soros is part of is infinite) are petitioning the UN to step in.

    With the protests against Hosni Mubarak, the Egyptian president, showing no sign of abating, many observers are petitioning the United Nations to step in and do something, anything. But UN observers are not holding their breath.

    For the most part, the UN Security Council is considered a venue of last resort that deals exclusively with issues of international peace and security.

    The last Council meeting on Egypt occurred in 1956. That was after Gamal Abdel Nasser nationalised the Suez Canal and Egypt was invaded by England, France and Israel.

    In the current case, what is happening is still considered a domestic affair.

    “The [UN Security] Council is an institution of last resort,” said Maria Luiza Ribeiro Viotti, Brazil’s ambassador to the UN and current president of the Security Council, speaking to reporters on February 2.

    “So far there has not been a request by members for a briefing on the situation in Egypt,” Viotti said. “This situation is being dealt with at the national level.”

    Domestic affairs

    Two permanent members of the Council – China and Russia – are particularly averse to anything suggesting interference with state sovereignty, and would likely oppose a discussion on Egypt. That reaction is consistent with their bristling at forays into their own affairs.

    “I think that the United Nations should be dealing with its many tasks, which do not include poking fingers in the eyes of leaders in other countries,” said Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, speaking to reporters at the UN on Friday.

    “It is our general position of Russia that one has to refrain from interfering in domestic affairs of our countries, especially in a situation where we are dealing with a case of extreme complexity,” said Churkin.

    Churkin also hinted that Russia was loathe to ruffle an ally’s feathers: “And of course it’s a country which is very friendly to Russia and very friendly to many of us.”

    With the exception of gross violations of international law – an invading army or ongoing genocide, for example – the Council has rarely shown an interest in intervening in an ongoing domestic uprising.

    For instance, the Council remained silent as popular protests against another US-backed autocrat, the Shah of Iran, gained steam in 1978. Iran did not get onto the Council’s agenda until November 1979 – ten months after the Shah fled – when Islamic revolutionaries took 52 Americans hostage in the US embassy in Tehran.

    Need for reform

    For some, the inaction around Egypt’s crisis points to a need for Security Council reform.

    “The Security Council was a body established in very different circumstances, where the main threat to peace and security was a conflict between states,” said Carne Ross, a former member of the British Foreign Service and director of Independent Diplomat, a diplomatic advisory group.

    “These days the main threat to human welfare and human life is conflict within states.”

    But the remaining members of the UN in the General Assembly also appear hesitant to take action. The silence could be to avoid charges of hypocrisy.

    The nonprofit organisation Freedom House says 105 of the world’s 194 countries have limited civil and political rights, and the reluctance to criticise Egypt’s crackdown on demonstrators could be for fear of having the spotlight turned back on them.

    The lack of chatter at the UN goes all the way to the top of the Secretariat Building, where Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, also showed restraint.

    Often considered a source of moral authority, the secretary-general has so far issued tame statements condemning the crackdown against protestors.

    “I believe it is important for the Egyptian leadership to listen more attentively and carefully to what the genuine and real wishes [of protestors] are,” Ban told a gathering of journalists in Germany on Friday.

    “Reflecting on their wishes will be very important.”

    Remaining quiet

    Since the end of the Cold War, the secretary-general has tended to speak more forcefully against human rights abuses, but, according to UN experts, has often avoided meddling in domestic affairs – waiting for other countries to take the lead in an attempt to avoid conflict with any member states.

    “You are either meddling, or you’re not in the avant-garde,” said Thomas Weiss, the director of the Ralph Bunch Institute for International Studies in New York.

    “The secretary-general is a civil servant – he answers to government,” Weiss said. “If there is a government, the secretary-general would be very, very reluctant to criticise it, unless the government oversteps some international boundary, like genocide or mass atrocities.”

    “That just isn’t the case in Egypt,” Weiss said.

    In one important exception, Ban has taken a strong stance on Cote d’Ivoire, demanding from the start that Laurent Gbagbo step down as president after losing the November presidential elections.

    But the UN has had a peacekeeping force on the ground there for years, and has a constitutionally mandated role to play in Cote d’Ivoire’s elections.

    So for now, expect this international institution to remain quiet on Egypt.
    ____________________________

    It seems like Karma is having it’s way with the Georges. George Soros and George W. Bush. I wonder if Bush1 is considering changing his first name to something by association is less offensive…

    Perhaps something like William Jefferson Bush maybe?

  230. Here’s Larry . . . . more shrewd canny analysis from a guy who knows whereof he speaks . . . Sounds like Wisener just shit in Obama’s mess kit. Wisener says Murback should stay in office until a clear path forward can be determined, because the alternative is chaos. I would venture to guess that that is Hillary’s position too privately because she is a pragmatist. Publicly of course she must support Obama as he attempts to slide off his early ultimatum to Mubrack with all the finesse of a drowning man. The only one who really supports Obama’s position, I suspect, are Iran, the Brotherhood, Fidel/Hugo and Senator Kerry. Normally there are only two jokers in the deck but in this hand there are four. I guess that whore at the DNC convention who bears has nearly as many positions as Barack would make it a full house.
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Obama’s Egypt Debacle

    By Larry Johnson on February 5, 2011 at 8:59 PM in Current Affairs

    Winston Churchill. Battle of Britain. His finest moment. Barack Obama? Egypt? God save us!! What a debacle. In the last eleven days Obama has succeeded in creating doubts about America’s policy goals in Egypt, fueled uncertainty and fear in Israel, painted his Administration into a no-win policy position and fed the image of America as a paper tiger. Way to go kid!

    The latest gaffe in Obama’s feckless policy towards Egypt comes via his new special envoy, Ambassador Frank Wisner. Ambassador Wisner speaking today said:

    We need to get a national consensus around the pre-conditions for the next step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes,” he told the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.

    “I believe that President Mubarak’s continued leadership is critical – it’s his chance to write his own legacy.

    “He has given 60 years of his life to the service of his country, this is an ideal moment for him to show the way forward.”

    Oops. Seems that Ambassador Wisner, one of the most experienced Americans on the subject of Egypt, had strayed off the Obama reservation:

    But in Washington, state department spokesman PJ Crowley said: “We have great respect for Frank Wisner and we were deeply appreciative of his willingness to travel to Egypt last week.”

    “He has not continued in any official capacity following the trip. The views he expressed today are his own. He did not co-ordinate his comments with the US government.”

    This is one of those “YOU GOT TO BE SHITTING ME” moments.

    An old hand like Wisner does not just happen to casually say something diametrically opposed to the President’s policy one day after leaving Egypt having just carried water for Obama. Obama and his mouthpiece, Robert Gibbs, have been insisting that Mubarak must leave NOW, NOW, NOW! Wisner delivered that message. And Mubarak? He matter of factly told the U.S. to “fuck off.” He wasn’t going to violate Egyptian law just to make some kid from Hawaii happy.

    But Mubarak apparently was not the only one tired of Obama’s weak, silly threats. Ambassador Wisner also signaled unmistakably that he was fed up with the amateur conduct of our boy President. Not-Ready-For Primettime Obama was so inexperienced and so arrogant that rather than keep his mouth shut in public and work quietly behind the scenes to reassure Israel that its border would be secure and persuade Mubarak to leave his office he decided to play it ghetto. IN YO FACE MUTHAFUCKER!!

    The comedy continued. While Wisner was saying Mubarak should stay, Biden was now saying, “he should go:”

    In a phone call with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman, Vice President Biden called for President Hosni Mubarak to spell out when he intends to leave office.

    In the strongest words to date, the White House said that during the phone call to Suleiman, Biden “stressed the need for a concrete reform agenda, a clear timeline, and immediate steps that demonstrate to the public and the opposition that the Egyptian government is committed to reform.”

    Is this Husni Mubarak’s secret song?

    Yep, Barack Obama got out in front of the cameras and lectured and hectored Mubarak, telling him he must go. Only problem is that no President of the United States should be standing in front of a camera saying shit unless he has the ability to deliver on what he’s saying. The rest of the world understands this point very clearly. If Barack Obama says “NOW” then it is expected (and was expected) that Mubarak would be gone. But Mubarak is not going anywhere on Barak Obama’s schedule. He will go when he is good and ready and not a moment sooner. And the world is seeing that Obama is an inexperienced goof. He is the anti-Roosevelt–He talks loudly and carries a toothpick.

    This is not just a personal disaster for Obama. It is dangerous for America. Just wait till the next crisis looms and lilly lips Obama stands before a camera and solemnly intones his line in the sand. Rest of the world will just laugh quietly and know that this man has no deep seated principles. He’ll do anything to win popular support but is too inexperienced and shallow to realize when he is getting into deep water.

    How should Barack have managed the Egypt crisis? Very simple. You ensure that everyone in your Adminstration is saying the same thing. And what is that message? In public the Administration should have reaffirmed its support for Egypt as a valuable ally in fighting Islamic extremism and keeping the peace with Israel. Privately the United States should have sent very strong messages early on via trusted envoys like Wisner that Mubarak’s days were over and that an exit plan must be charted. These details should have been worked out behind the scenes with no public lecturing from Obama.

    But that’s not what happened. Once Obama shook his metaphorical finger at Mubarak the old man dug in his heels and decided he would go on his own terms. Hillary Clinton warned America that Barack was not ready to answer a crisis at an inopportune moment. The last two weeks have proved Hillary’s warnings about Obama to be all too true.

  231. Sarah Palin said obama got his 3:00am call and it went straight to his answering machine. She’s got a good sense of humor and she’s right on. She also seems to be aware that Hill would have picked up. You betcha.

  232. Wisner repudiates Obama. Hillary is of the same view as Wisner, I am sure. But she cannot show it. As for Obama he is trying to slide off his initial position that Mubarak must go now with all the finewsse of a drowning man.
    —————————————————————————

    Obama’s Egypt Debacle

    By Larry Johnson on February 5, 2011 at 8:59 PM in Current Affairs
    Winston Churchill. Battle of Britain. His finest moment. Barack Obama? Egypt? God save us!! What a debacle. In the last eleven days Obama has succeeded in creating doubts about America’s policy goals in Egypt, fueled uncertainty and fear in Israel, painted his Administration into a no-win policy position and fed the image of America as a paper tiger. Way to go kid!

    The latest gaffe in Obama’s feckless policy towards Egypt comes via his new special envoy, Ambassador Frank Wisner. Ambassador Wisner speaking today said:

    We need to get a national consensus around the pre-conditions for the next step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes,” he told the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.

    “I believe that President Mubarak’s continued leadership is critical – it’s his chance to write his own legacy.

    “He has given 60 years of his life to the service of his country, this is an ideal moment for him to show the way forward.”

    Oops. Seems that Ambassador Wisner, one of the most experienced Americans on the subject of Egypt, had strayed off the Obama reservation:

    But in Washington, state department spokesman PJ Crowley said: “We have great respect for Frank Wisner and we were deeply appreciative of his willingness to travel to Egypt last week.”

    “He has not continued in any official capacity following the trip. The views he expressed today are his own. He did not co-ordinate his comments with the US government.”

    This is one of those “YOU GOT TO BE SHITTING ME” moments.

    An old hand like Wisner does not just happen to casually say something diametrically opposed to the President’s policy one day after leaving Egypt having just carried water for Obama. Obama and his mouthpiece, Robert Gibbs, have been insisting that Mubarak must leave NOW, NOW, NOW! Wisner delivered that message. And Mubarak? He matter of factly told the U.S. to “fuck off.” He wasn’t going to violate Egyptian law just to make some kid from Hawaii happy.

    But Mubarak apparently was not the only one tired of Obama’s weak, silly threats. Ambassador Wisner also signaled unmistakably that he was fed up with the amateur conduct of our boy President. Not-Ready-For Primettime Obama was so inexperienced and so arrogant that rather than keep his mouth shut in public and work quietly behind the scenes to reassure Israel that its border would be secure and persuade Mubarak to leave his office he decided to play it ghetto. IN YO FACE MUTHAFUCKER!!

    The comedy continued. While Wisner was saying Mubarak should stay, Biden was now saying, “he should go:”

    In a phone call with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman, Vice President Biden called for President Hosni Mubarak to spell out when he intends to leave office.

    In the strongest words to date, the White House said that during the phone call to Suleiman, Biden “stressed the need for a concrete reform agenda, a clear timeline, and immediate steps that demonstrate to the public and the opposition that the Egyptian government is committed to reform.”

    Is this Husni Mubarak’s secret song?

    Yep, Barack Obama got out in front of the cameras and lectured and hectored Mubarak, telling him he must go. Only problem is that no President of the United States should be standing in front of a camera saying shit unless he has the ability to deliver on what he’s saying. The rest of the world understands this point very clearly. If Barack Obama says “NOW” then it is expected (and was expected) that Mubarak would be gone. But Mubarak is not going anywhere on Barak Obama’s schedule. He will go when he is good and ready and not a moment sooner. And the world is seeing that Obama is an inexperienced goof. He is the anti-Roosevelt–He talks loudly and carries a toothpick.

    This is not just a personal disaster for Obama. It is dangerous for America. Just wait till the next crisis looms and lilly lips Obama stands before a camera and solemnly intones his line in the sand. Rest of the world will just laugh quietly and know that this man has no deep seated principles. He’ll do anything to win popular support but is too inexperienced and shallow to realize when he is getting into deep water.

    How should Barack have managed the Egypt crisis? Very simple. You ensure that everyone in your Adminstration is saying the same thing. And what is that message? In public the Administration should have reaffirmed its support for Egypt as a valuable ally in fighting Islamic extremism and keeping the peace with Israel. Privately the United States should have sent very strong messages early on via trusted envoys like Wisner that Mubarak’s days were over and that an exit plan must be charted. These details should have been worked out behind the scenes with no public lecturing from Obama.

    But that’s not what happened. Once Obama shook his metaphorical finger at Mubarak the old man dug in his heels and decided he would go on his own terms. Hillary Clinton warned America that Barack was not ready to answer a crisis at an inopportune moment. The last two weeks have proved Hillary’s warnings about Obama to be all too true.

  233. Does anyone know what is going on at the Team Hillary Clinton site? I got a final message from the grou. It looks like the Hillary Organization is taking over that Blog.

    Below is the narrative of the message I got.
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    TeamHillary ClintonFebruary 6, 2011 at 1:56am
    Subject: Final Group Message from Team Hillary Clinton
    Hello All,
    Exactly one year ago today, Team Hillary was brought back from the campaign, dusted off, and put back to work in response to Hillary’s exceptional 21st Century Statecraft Speech… After hearing Hillary in the speech call for each of us to do our part in person to person diplomacy we knew that she was calling us back to action and so the group was launched on February 6th 2010, with it’s first post being posted on February 7th 2010 – and over the last 12 months we have evolved, launched Team Hillary Clinton Online, a youtube channel, twitter, the website: www. http://www.facebook.com/l/7d08e7ZVr4Ycy1rbEqdnCDs27-A;teamhillaryclinton.com, istream, vevo, myspace, and more in hopes of bringing Hillary’s work as Secretary of State to those who like to follow and keep up with her and her hard work around the globe on a daily basis.
    We started as 10 members of Hillary’s Campaign, who in our own ways had all been devoting our time daily to promoting Hillary’s causes, belefs, and devotion to duty as we watched her serve the country as America’s 67th Secy of State and who wanted to share it will anyone who also wanted to keep up with Hillary, but didn’t have the time to do all the searching, television watching, and blog reading…
    From that intitial beginning until today we have spawned into a group of over 1,500 with spin off groups, blogs, websites, forums and more!
    It has been an awesome experience watching everyone working together to make sure that none of us missed Hillary’s achievements as they were presented, her speeches as they were given, watched the media coverage as it happened, and read the Op-Eds as they were written.

    Together we are all keeping Hillary’s spirity and legacy alive!
    Starting on January 1st Team Hillary decided to move to a page vs the group to broaden our coverage of Hillary by bringing our photo albums, up to date media coverage, and online editorials about Hillary and all she does through your feeds…

    Today on our one year anniversary the ( Group ) has been handed over to one of Hillary’s daily bloggers, an Original Team Hillary Administrator, and devoted Hill~Star…

    ( Still 4 Hill )

    Still’s hard work, daily blogging, and up to the minute coverage of Hillary is something that we all cherish and her work has become widely praised by all members of our Hillary Clinton community!
    She doesn’t miss one Hillary heartbeat in her blog and her devotion to Hillary deserves it’s own place, it’s central location, and her one stop link posting will hopefully draw her audiences to her fro everywhere…
    So please if you have Hillary~Friends in your friends list…
    Suggest to them Still’s new group…. and stay tuned here for Still’s awesome Hillary One-Stop-Spot for up to the minute Hillary blogger news and take advantage of her beautiful picture tributes (photo-bombs) and always know you can find her daily devotional to Hillary right here waiting for you to read!

    Team Hillary would like to Thank EVERYONE for helping to keep Hillary’s spirit alive and we look forward to hearing from you , interacting with you, and keeping Hillary’s spirit and can do attitude thriving through our interactions with each other!
    Here’s to Hillary, Here’s to 2011, and here’s to many more years of watching Hillary as she makes and writes History for and with each of us!
    Hillary’s journey to the top will and must…. never stop!
    Thanks for your Support !
    Team Hillary Clinton

    Join Us At Our New Page Here:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/TEAM-HILLARY-CLINTON/310937177514
    —————–

    I am not sure what is going on here. Admin do you know?

  234. NMF

    From what I heard, Reezechannel is a small production co that deals in suppying entertainment segments to shows like ET, Hollywood Entertainment… located in LA. After the Kennedys pooh-poohed the latest Kennedy extravaganza pulled from the History Channel no one wanted to touch the project. This little co took the project on in the hopes of raising their profile and branching out to larger projects.

    yay… for the little guy!

  235. ABC this Week just interviewed egypt’s VP Suleiman who says he is not interested in being President, he just took the VP job to help his country thru it’s crisis. El Baradei has been saying he doesn’t want to be president. Mubarak says he is leaving. Who is going to take the Presient’s job? Kerry is now on Meet the Press distancing the admin from US envy Wisners’ recent statements that are different than Obamas. David Gregory asking Kerry how the admin could possibly have been surprised by the explosive protest in Egypt. Kerry blaiming it on the new media?

  236. I thought this was an interesting bit…

    Remember when wikileaks said they would be releasing damaging information about a “certain” bank who was guilty of bad banking practices (w/their knowledge) re: overzealous foreclosures, overcharging interest on CC and late mortgages pmts. Wikileaks said it had intra-office communications between high ranking bank officers using these practices to raise the bottom line of the bank’s asset portfolio. And full transcripts were supposed to be released naming the bank, naming individuals involved etc…sometime in January?…

    We never heard a word because suddenly Wikileaks went silent.

    On Today’s news it was announced the government has fined and penalized BOA $410,000,000 in a Class Action suit brought by defrauded bank customers. It didn’t say the customers were getting any relief or compensation from the suit. But the government is doing fine with $410M in whose pocket?

  237. Those 2 both want to be President, they just wont say it now.

    Exactly right, moon- They’re afraid if they say too much, especially about the Muslim Brotherhood being invited to the table for talks.. it will kill their chances for election.
    ___________________

    Kerry is Obama’s new front man. Although,on DU he has a gaggle of staungh supporters especially Karen(?)… ewww

  238. We never heard a word because suddenly Wikileaks went silent.

    On Today’s news it was announced the government has fined and penalized BOA $410,000,000 in a Class Action suit brought by defrauded bank customers. It didn’t say the customers were getting any relief or compensation from the suit. But the government is doing fine with $410M in whose pocket?
    ****************************
    I commented on here that it was when wikileaks began talking about exposing a big bank, that the push to arrest and shut Assange up began. I think it was the fear that they would expose not only the bank but the govt’s collusion.

  239. SuperBowl Sunday-

    Game begins at 6pm here. Gotta be COLD in Dallas @ 5pm.. no?

    Getting my goodies ready for party 2 doors down from me..

  240. Oh you cynical people (LOL). No one wants to be President of Egypt, they all just want what is best for the country and the little people, doncha know.

  241. “I commented on here that it was when wikileaks began talking about exposing a big bank, that the push to arrest and shut Assange up began. I think it was the fear that they would expose not only the bank but the govt’s collusion.”
    ___________________

    I might be a little more cynical in that respect. I think Geithner, Bernache came up with a number to quash the expose of BOA from Wiki-leaks (Soros) and their going to split the $410M between them. Oh, did I forget Obama… right he’s included in this little Ménage à quatre.

    It was announced last week, Geithner is leaving the Treasury Dept…
    nice severance pkg…

  242. “I think that the United Nations should be dealing with its many tasks, which do not include poking fingers in the eyes of leaders in other countries,” said Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, speaking to reporters at the UN on Friday”

    ———————-
    Really??? I guess Israel is the exception then???

  243. Isn’t this just lovely…

    Top Hamas Terrorist Back in Gaza After Escaping Cairo Prison

    Senior Hamas commander Ayman Nofal returned to the Gaza Strip on Saturday, joining five other Palestinian terrorists who made their way out of Egypt via smuggling tunnels last week.

    The terrorists were among thousands of prisoners who broke free from Egyptian jails as the military and police struggle to contain anti-government chaos throughout the country.

    Egyptian security forces revealed on Friday that a Hezbollah terrorist suspected of smuggling weapons into Gaza had also escaped and has since left the country.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/hamas-escape.php

  244. Clinton: US to Wait-and-See on Brotherhood’s Talks With Mubarak Government

    VOA News February 06, 2011

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says Washington will adopt a wait-and-see approach to the involvement of Egyptian Islamists in talks with Egypt’s government on resolving political unrest in that nation.

    In an interview with U.S. broadcaster National Public Radio broadcast Sunday, Clinton says the Muslim Brotherhood’s decision to engage with the government suggests it is now involved in the type of dialogue that Washington has encouraged. She was speaking while on a visit to Germany.

    Clinton says the United States has been “very clear” about what it expects from the talks, namely, an “orderly transition” of power from Egypt’s long-running President Hosni Mubarak, leading to free and fair elections. She says that is what the Egyptian people want.

    White House officials say U.S. President Barack Obama wants Mr. Mubarak to start such a transition “now.” They say Mr. Obama delivered that message Saturday, during phone calls with British Prime Minister David Cameron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and United Arab Emirates Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed.

    A Downing Street spokesman says Cameron and Obama agree that Egypt needs a “clear and credible roadmap” to political change “as soon as possible.”

    Separately, White House officials say Vice President Joe Biden reiterated Obama’s position to Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman in a phone call Saturday. Biden also asked Suleiman about Egypt’s progress in beginning “inclusive negotiations” to address the aspirations of the Egyptian people.

    The White House says Biden called on the Egyptian government to introduce a concrete reform agenda, a clear timeline, and immediate steps to demonstrate its commitment to reform.

    The U.S. vice president also expressed concern about “raids on civil society,” and appealed for an immediate release of journalists, activists and human rights advocates deemed by Washington to be “detained without cause.”

    Earlier Saturday, Secretary Clinton expressed support for a political transition in Egypt headed by Vice President Omar Suleiman, whom Mubarak appointed as his first-ever deputy last month. Mubarak made the appointment in response to days of huge nationwide protests demanding he step down after nearly 30 years in power.

    Speaking at a security conference in Munich, Clinton said it may take time for Egypt to complete a peaceful transition, and she warned that an absence of orderly change could allow extremists to derail the process.

    Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney praised Mubarak Saturday, saying the United States needs to remember that the Egyptian leader has been a “good friend and ally.”

    Speaking at an event in Santa Barbara, California, Cheney noted that Mubarak sided with the United States against Iraq in the 1991 Gulf War, launched by U.S.-led forces in response to Iraq’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Cheney was U.S. defense secretary at the time.

    Cheney says Mubarak granted overflight rights to U.S. warplanes and contributed troops to the war effort. But, the former vice president acknowledged that the Egyptian people will determine Mubarak’s future.

    http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Clinton-US-to-Wait-and-See-on-Brotherhoods-Talks-With-Mubarak-Governement-115422434.html

  245. JanH
    February 6th, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Isn’t this just lovely…

    Top Hamas Terrorist Back in Gaza After Escaping Cairo Prison
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    No need training fresh recruits when the highly skilled trained can be released from prison. All 10,000 formerly jailed terrorists.

  246. Admin: this is a thoughtful analysis of the Vincent opinion which holds that Obamacare in unconstitutional. This particular lawyer has practiced before Judge Vincent. He comes out where I do on the matter. My only surprise is that it took a seasoned lawyer like him so long to understand the trial strategy of the Obama people (Perkins Coie, et. al.) which was obvious to me at least almost from the beginning. In fact, I wrote about it here. The essence of that strategy was and is to target there whole case to Judge Kennedy, and as I opined previously the removal of the severability clause was an all or nothing game of chicken directed specifically at him–as opposed to an insurance company opt out. In lawyer like language (which he claims falls short),this excellent trial lawyer concludes as I have that it is more probable than not that Justice Kennedy will rise to the challenge and declare Obamacare unconstitutional. Therefore, as the case moves closer to the Supreme Court, you can expect the New York Times/, the Washington Post, and big media to begin attacking the Roberts Court, to put more pressure on Justice Kennedy to fold. I doubt that he will . .

    From my perspective, which trusts neither party to do what is right for the American People, the greatest risk of upholding Obamacare is not that government will take over one sixth of the economy, and not that people who do not want to pay for health insurance would be compelled to do so, and not that at the end of our lives, when the quality of life is gone we would be at the mercy of death panels. Having spent virtually every day of my life this past year with my mother in a nursing home, I have no illusions about that. The curse of Obama care is that it fundamentally alters the balance of power between citizens and government and removes any notion whatsoever that the people of sovereign. You cannot allow government to regulate inactivity, period. That is something which I cannot live with. One example will suffice: the old Soviet Constitution which began “from each according to his ability to each according to his need” imposed an affirmative duty on its citizens to act, and permitted the state to impose draconian penalities on its people if they failed to do so. By contrast, for over two hundred years, the whole idea of the American is to restrict the growth of goverment and to preserve the liberty and sovereignty of the people.
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    Thomas Crown—

    While trying to drum up business on Friday, between meetings, I took the time to read U.S. District Court Judge Vinson’s decision on the constitutionality of the mandate. (Opinion here.) I have a few thoughts; however, fair warning: I refused to violate my personal ban on doing legal research — that is, free legal work — while blogging. Feel free to skip this on that basis.

    It’s worth noting that I’ve been before Judge Vinson before, and even when he kicked my tail (and he has), I’ve found him to be a very thorough, very good, very cautious judge. I mention this because this isn’t the first time I’ve read a Vinson opinion on summary judgment, and while they’re rarely bloodless, they’re never so heartfelt, so earnest as this. It’s pretty remarkable — he obviously cared enough to try to make certain that his rationale was clear for the lawyers in the case and the Eleventh Circuit and Supreme Court. He clearly did the lion’s share on this, rather than merely turning it over to his clerk.

    As an initial matter, I now completely understand why the left side of the political spectrum is treating this as one of the worst affronts in the history of law, reaching back to cuneiform: Aside from their usual, knee-jerk, scalded-cat if-we-like-it-it’s-constitutional/if-we-don’t-it’s-treason response to any event that disrupts their view of how the world should work, I think it’s important to remember that most of the geniuses opining on this are either non-lawyers or lawyers and law professors with no real connection to trial court judgments (which means, not real lawyers). This ruling reads like what it almost certainly is: An attempt to explain a decision the court knows will be controversial in a way lawyers (read: subsequent appellate courts) and more importantly, non-lawyers can understand. It fails on the latter count, precisely because it is doing so in the way that people who’ve been lawyers too long imagine is necessary to communicate to non-lawyers.

    But the non-lawyers reading this are generally self-identified political experts, and for good and for ill, that means these days, they read a lot of Supreme Court opinions, as well as the odd Circuit Court of Appeals opinion, and they expect all opinions to read that way. Those tend to be written in a mix of aimed-at-lawyers and more informal writing style (in dissent, and sometimes in concurrence) that again, for good and for ill, we now take as a given. This is written like a history lesson, with each step taken seriously, calmly, and in an altogether different voice from an opinion that ends with “Breyer, J., concurring in the judgment.” In other words, it likely seems too informal, too personal, for skinning alive a cat on which so many on the left pinned so many hatreds and hopes. Thus, their reaction is visceral, as well as intellectual.

    Also, Ezra Klein is an idiot.

    Second, I now well and truly understand that this entire exercise — from the final passage of the bill through briefing — really has been aimed at the Supreme Court. I’m not sure which sub-moron decided this was a good idea, but rather clearly, the removal of the severability clause in the final version of the bill, and the briefs repeatedly making clear that the mandate could not be severed from the main bill — when, as Judge Vinson notes, everyone knew that would be the very first part challenged — are of a piece. Essentially, this is a gigantic game of chicken, aimed at Justice Kennedy: If you discard the mandate, you’re wrecking this giant piece of democratically-crafted legislation. I didn’t appreciate this before, but it now seems pretty clear they’re relying on Kennedy the federal-incrementalist, rather than Kennedy the who-cares-about-federalism-jurist. It’s a remarkable dare. I think it’s sort of stupid — Kennedy is a bit on the dim side, and asking him to decide not to chuck the bathwater with the baby may be beyond his intellectual grasp, though likely not his ego.

    Third, I’m surprised Judge Vinson ended up with this case. For a case of this importance, I’d expect an active District Court judge to receive the assignment by hook or by crook. A senior status federal judge is on the rotation for case assignments, but they have a lot of discretion to pass on a case. Judge Vinson is happily in senior status — I believe he goes to flower competitions — I can’t imagine he’s looking forward to the inevitable death threats. I suspect the chief judge didn’t push him to recuse because his case load is so light, and Florida courts (state and federal) are so jammed right now. That’s just a hunch.

    Fourth, I have to say I’m amused as Hell to see the port side suddenly so averse to forum shopping and judicial review, problems they don’t seem to register when they get a result they like invalidating a federal law or act out of a District Court in Michigan or California or Massachusetts. I think this goes to a fundamental problem their legislators had when crafting this — they believe that if something (they believe) is so important, so complex, so huge, it must not only be necessary, it must be inviolable. (I’m not sure they believe that the word “constitutional” is relevant unless abortion is involved.) If you look over the government’s briefing, and the amicus briefing, it tends to contain a fairly specific theme: The majority of the bill is constitutional and of critical national importance; the rest of the bill can’t work without the mandate; therefore, it would be judicial activism and a departure from tradition/precedent/deference to strike down the mandate. (Without reading the transcript on oral argument, I infer that they stayed on-message there.) I think this was a terribly bad tack to take with this judge, even allowing for the fact that they’re trying to play chicken with the nine judges who lie at the end of this trail; but more importantly, this insight is the key to understanding the stupid concessions and arguments made in briefing and at oral argument. (Seriously? The government can maybe regulate childbearing?)

    Fifth, this was certainly a fairly decently-reasoned opinion. I don’t agree with all of its nuances, but I’m (promise) trying to keep this brief. (No pun.) However, it’s kind of hard to escape the critical question raised in the opinion, the briefing, and the oral argument: If the federal government can mandate this sort of behavior from inactivity, exactly what aggregated activity can it not? I think all of the steam expended to the effect that the government can mandate any sort of activity that in the aggregate impacts commerce (presumably not even substantially) is debatable tactics and worse strategy. If Kennedy votes to toss this, that is what he’ll focus on. They’ve basically supplied the rope, the beam, and the knot-tying directions, and presume Kennedy won’t go through with it because he hates seeing things swing.

    In the words of a colleague of mine, “you assume at your peril that Kennedy will decide that this is an issue over which Anthony Kennedy should decline to exercise power. Abortion, racial preferences, Bush v. Gore, the death penalty, punitive damages — there’s no way to make any sense of his jurisprudence other than a desire to have the federal courts resolve the issue, and then nearly 100% of it makes sense. It’s O’Connor who would have been horrified by certain things she saw as judicial hubris, not Kennedy.”

    Buckle up, folks. The ride only gets more fun from here.

  247. Somethings gonna give. I have a hard time believing they are going to wait for an an orderly transition after the Sept elections.

  248. Admin, I have a comment caught in the Filter. It has two links, which is why it was trapped by the filter. This comment has to do with the Team Hillary Clinton blog on facebook. It looks to be like they are turning the blog over the Hillary Staff. I would like to have other opinions on this, so go to that blog and tell me what you think.

  249. Muslim Brotherhood Joins Egypt Talks

    Sunday, February 6, 2011

    The outlawed Muslim Brotherhood joined talks Sunday with Egyptian officials in efforts to calm days of street protests and negotiate the possibility of a transitional government to run the country until September elections, the Los Angeles Times reports

    The Brotherhood’s participation in resolving the crisis around President Hosni Mubarak is another dramatic sign in recent days that Egypt is on new political terrain. The government for years has labeled the popular Brotherhood a terrorist organization, closing its offices and arresting thousands of its members.

    Talks between opposition parties, the military and Vice President Omar Sulieman unfolded as tens of thousands of protesters streamed into Tahrir Square amid a heavy army presence. Protesters and opposition groups, including the Brotherhood, have said demonstrations won’t stop until Mubarak steps down or is removed from office.

    According to the Associated Press, the Brotherhood said in a statement that its representatives would meet with Suleiman to press its “legitimate and just demands.” Suleiman has accused the Brotherhood, businessmen and foreigners he has not identified as being behind a wave of looting and arson that swept much of the country last weekend after security forces inexplicably withdrew from the streets.

    Silent footage on state TV showed senior Brotherhood leader Mohammed Mursi seated at a large conference table along with opposition leaders and public figures. Suleiman was shown seated at the head of the table, the AP reported.

    In Munich, Germany, on Sunday, the AP reported that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Obama administration would withhold judgment on the Brotherhood’s decision to enter a dialogue with Mubarak’s regime.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-egypt-unrest-20110207,0,4350829.story

  250. Rabble Rouser @ NQ:

    As of this writing, all of the news sources are reporting one thing – Obama got his demand. That demand, as I have written previously, is that he wants the Muslim Brotherhood to have a seat at the table. And so they will. It is just disturbing beyond belief that a US President would make such a demand for a group like the Muslim Brotherhood, yet he did. Shocking.

    Ms. Powers also speaks about the Christians in Egypt and the difficulties they face. The bombing of a Coptic Church on January 1st in Alexandria in which 23 people were murdered, and 79 hurt, is a case in point. Just the other day, two Coptic Christian families were shot and killed, a total of 11 people, including children.

    It leaves me speechless, and incredibly sad. So, I will return to Ms. Powers’ post:

    [snip] As a liberal, I have a very hard time with the idea that I’m not supposed to care about a potential government that is oppressive to minorities and women.

    During the last elections, the Brotherhood’s slogan was “Islam is the solution.” Its logo is a black flag with a sword and the Koran.

    […]

    I spent much of yesterday interviewing American experts on the region—including two Brookings Institution scholars who are experts on the Muslim Brotherhood—and was reassured over and over that the organization has reformed and does not seek to establish a fundamentalist state. One claimed that Brotherhood officials have said they view Copts as equal citizens.

    My relative laughed at this. He says when Brotherhood members have been asked about how they would treat Christians they are vague. When asked about whether they would nationalize the banks, they are vague. Even one of the Brookings scholars told me that the Brotherhood would probably segregate the sexes. This is far from a secular group.

    I had a similar reaction when an old friend tried to claim that the BBC said the Muslim Brotherhood was moderate now, and opposed to violence (something not in the Profile they did). This organization gave birth to the likes of Hamas and Al Qaeda, and we are honestly supposed to believe this organization, which helped fuel the recent protests, has changed their stripes, with a slogan like, “Islam Is The Solution” (and, “Resistance Is Futile?”)? Uh, sure, okay.

    Ms. Powers seems to be of the same opinion:

    Our family in Egypt always makes the point that if the current regime—which is considered moderate and quasi-secular—arrests people who convert from Islam to Christianity, what do you think it will be like if power is seized by a group that has as its explicit goal the spread of Islam?
    One of the things I consistently hear from the Egyptian Christians I know is that Islamists know the right things to say in order to gain power. They are sophisticated. They are especially astute at telling Westerners what they want to hear.

    […]

    As a liberal, I have a very hard time with the idea that I’m not supposed to care about a potential government that is oppressive to minorities and women. I also do not support theocracies—Muslim, Christian or otherwise even if they aren’t fundamentalist. If find it strange that so many American liberals aren’t concerned about the Muslim Brotherhood’s stated mission to “spread Islam.” It’s hard to imagine them being so unconcerned about a Christian political group with the stated mission of establishing a Christian theocracy gaining power in a new government.

    If the Muslim Brotherhood wants to evangelize Islam on its own time that is fine; but it shouldn’t be able to use government power to do so. I should also note that it is already against the law for Christians to share their faith in Egypt—and that’s under a quasi-secular government. (Human Rights Watch last year accused Egypt of “widespread discrimination” against Christians and other religious minorities.)

    This isn’t to say that Mubarak deserves our support. He’s an oppressive dictator. But all the Americans who are supporting the participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in the new government need to understand who they really are. Beyond my own personal concern for the treatment of Christians and women, fundamentalist Islamic governments generally aren’t known for being pro-American.

    I shared with my Egyptian relative that most experts I spoke to here believe that Turkey is the model that Egypt will follow.

    Again, laughter. (Click here to read the rest.)

    Yeah, I bet. But I’m not laughing. Again, I have to ask, why does Obama have so many connections to this organization? How can that possibly be, and why are so few people concerned about that given for what they stand?

    And in all honesty, I am thankful I had a chance to go to Egypt when I did. Muslims of the Brotherhood variety don’t deal too well with people of my persuasion, or gender, for that matter. Because for what the Muslim Brotherhood stands, “Islam is the Solution,” is to promote Sharia Law. Let me give you just a few more examples of what that means for, oh, let’s just begin with homosexuals (from Top Ten Reasons Why Sharia Is Bad For All Societies):

    In February 1998, the Taliban, who once ruled in Afghanistan, ordered a stone wall to be pushed over three men convicted of sodomy. Their lives were to be spared if they survived for 30 minutes and were still alive when the stones were removed.
    In its 1991 Constitution, in Articles 108—113, Iran adopted the punishment of execution for sodomy.

    In April 2005, a Kuwaiti cleric says homosexuals should be thrown off a mountain or stoned to death.

    On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for ‘gay conduct.’

    Anyone want to take bets on how long those men survived having a stone wall pushed over on them? Yeah, I wouldn’t take that bet, either.

    How do women fare? Well, heaven help you if you are married:

    [snip] The Quran says:
    4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (MAS Abdel Haleem, the Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)
    The hadith says that Muslim women in the time of Muhammad were suffering from domestic violence in the context of confusing marriage laws:

    Rifa’a divorced his wife whereupon ‘AbdurRahman bin Az—Zubair Al—Qurazi married her. ‘Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Apostle came, ‘Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!” (Bukhari)

    This hadith shows Muhammad hitting his girl—bride, Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr: Muslim no. 2127:

    ‘He [Muhammad] struck me [Aisha] on the chest which caused me pain.’

    Oh, sure, that’s the old school talk. But hey – you can check out this cleric describing the proper way for a man to beat his wife a year ago in Egypt. Wait until you see the justification for it:

    Well, okay then – as long as you don’t curse her when you beat her, then things are just peachy keen.

    Good grief. Oh, there is so, so much more to Sharia Law along these same lines.

    Tell me again why, and how, Obama is so connected to the Brotherhood? How is it he asked a member of an outlawed group to attend his big speech? Why does he keep pushing for them to have a seat at the table?? I really want to know.

    What will it take to break through Americans’ naivete about Egypt, about the Muslim Brotherhood, and Sharia Law? I’m with Ms. Powers. I am not okay with Egypt being given over to Islamic Rule, for women, for Christians, for the stability of the Middle East, and the impact on Israel.

    I can only think of our lovely tour guide, how proud she was of how far women had come in her country, how they only had to wear the hijab, that they were able to work, and go to school. I hope, and pray, for her sake and all the women there, that Egypt does not give over to the conservative elements. I guess this is one of the times that, truly, only time will tell.

  251. finally, the British population is waking up to what their government has slovenly allowed coming into their country setting up shop for an eventual take over.
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    Protesters stage anti-Islam demonstration north of London

    Luton, England (CNN) — Chanting “never surrender” and waving signs reading “No more mosques” and “Islam is the devil,” hundreds of protesters demonstrated Saturday just north of London.

    The protest in Luton was organized by the English Defence League, a far-right British organization that pushes an anti-Islamic message. It was formed in the summer of 2009 after a group of radical Muslims protested during a homecoming parade for British troops.

    The crowd at the Luton protest numbered into the thousands, according to some estimates, and the protesters included members from the Swedish, Norwegian, Dutch and Scottish defense leagues. They marched to St. George’s Square in central Luton, where speeches were given and protesters chanted.

    Luton has had a renewed focus in Britain after it emerged that Taimour Abdulwahab, an Iraqi-born terrorist who blew himself up on a Stockholm street in December, had lived there over the past few years and studied at a local university.

    A U.S. pastor, Terry Jones, who had organized a “Burn the Quran” event last September 11, had been invited to speak at the rally, but Jones’ visit was canceled after UK authorities said they might not let him in the country. Jones, of Gainesville, Florida, did not carry out his plans to hold the Quran burning amid increasing pressure from U.S. and international leaders.

    Police deployed some 1,800 officers, along with dogs and horses, for security. Once the protesters had reached the square, they were held there behind mobile metal doors.

    A counterprotest also took place, organized by the group Unite Against Fascism, with protesters holding signs saying, “No to racism, fascism and Islamophobia.” At one point, the UAF protesters tried to push through the police cordon, but officers on horses managed to keep them back and the two groups did not merge.

    Incongruously, as the struggle took place, Bob Marley’s “Three Little Birds” played over the loudspeaker with its lyrics: “Don’t worry about a thing, ’cause every little thing is going to be all right.”

    Eight people were arrested, mostly on suspicion of possessing offensive weapons and assault, authorities said. No injuries were reported.

    Luton’s pubs remained closed Saturday as a safety precaution.

    Earlier Saturday, Unite Against Fascism protesters attempted to block English Defence League protesters from entering Luton by occupying the train station, but police were able to disperse them.

    The protests came on the same day that British Prime Minister David Cameron spoke on Islamist extremism and the threat it poses to security at the global Munich Security Conference in Germany. Islamist extremism differs from Islam, Cameron said, and “the ideology of extremism is the problem. Islam, emphatically, is not.”

    Cameron said those who advocate the West shutting itself off from the Muslim world should look to recent events in Tunisia and Egypt as an example of how Western values and Islam can be compatible.

    He suggested in his speech that Britain has been too tolerant of extremism, however.

    “When a white person holds objectionable views — racism, for example — we rightly condemn them,” Cameron said. “But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn’t white, we’ve been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them. … This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared.

    “All this leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless,” he said. “And the search for something to belong to and believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology.”

    He said that instead of ignoring extremist ideology, “we — as governments and societies — have got to confront it, in all its forms. And second, instead of encouraging people to live apart, we need a clear sense of shared national identity, open to everyone.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/02/05/england.islam.protests/index.html?section=cnn_latest#

  252. UPDATE 3-Egypt gas pipeline attacked, Israel flow hit

    Sat Feb 5, 2011

    * Islamist groups called for pipeline attack – SITE

    * Source – Jordan pipe targeted, blames “foreign elements”

    * Security source says army closes main source of flow

    * Supplies to Israel halted as precaution

    By Tom Perry and Edmund Blair

    CAIRO, Feb 5 (Reuters) – Saboteurs blew up a pipeline that runs through Egypt’s North Sinai, state television said, disrupting flows to Israel, after Islamist groups called on militants to exploit the unrest that has rocked the government.

    State television quoted an official on Saturday as saying that the “situation is very dangerous and explosions were continuing from one spot to another” along the pipeline.

    “It is a big terrorist operation”, a state TV reporter said.

    A security source in North Sinai said “foreign elements” targeted the branch of the pipe that supplies Jordan.

    A security source said the Egyptian army closed the main source of gas supplying the pipeline and were trying to control the fires. Television footage on Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya showed a tower of flames at the scene of the blast.

    Israel Radio said, quoting sources in the consortium overseeing imports, the blast did not target supplies to Israel but they had been halted as a precaution.

    “We are looking into all the details but it is too soon to say how long supplies (from Egypt) will be affected,” a source in the Israeli National Infrastructure Ministry told Reuters.

    Israel gets 40 percent of its natural gas from Egypt, a deal built on their landmark 1979 peace accord.

    The attack happened as demonstrations against President Hosni Mubarak entered their 12th day, with no sign of an end to the confrontation which has pitted the 82-year-old leader against thousands of anti-government protesters.

    “Saboteurs took advantage of the security situation and blew up the gas pipeline,” a state television correspondent said.

    UNREST

    The SITE intelligence group, which monitors al Qaeda and other Islamist websites, said some groups had been urging Islamic militants to attack the pipeline to Israel.

    “Jihadists suggested that Muslims in Sinai take advantage of Egyptian unrest and strike the Arish-Ashkelon gas pipeline, arguing that it would have a major impact on Israel,” SITE said.

    Egypt is a modest gas exporter, using pipelines to export to Israel, Jordan and other regional states. It also exports via liquefied natural gas (LNG) facilities on its north coast, but those are not in the Sinai region.

    The North Sinai source said the attack was carried out by “foreign elements”.

    “We are now relying on Bedouin leadership in the areas surrounding to help security apparatus with the investigation and give us hints of any other destructive acts,” he said. “As soon as the gas lines are attacked, the system suspends the flow immediately.”

    Egypt declared a high state of alert in the area, according to another security source. Gunmen opened fire on a local governorate building in North Sinai but no casualties were reported, the source said. Abdel Wahhab Mabrouk, the governor of North Sinai, told state television: “By closing the taps they contained the fire and we assure the people there are no human losses. It is an act of sabotage.”

    Residents in the area reported a huge explosion and said flames were raging in an area near the pipeline in the El-Arish area of north Sinai.

    SITE quoted one Islamist website author as saying: “To our brothers, the Bedouins of Sinai, the heroes of Islam, strike with an iron fist, because this is a chance to stop the supply to the Israelites.”

    Sinai Bedouins have long grumbled about being neglected and have often sporadically clashed with Egyptian security forces. Many Bedouin were rounded up after a series of explosions in Sinai tourist resorts between 2004 and 2006.

    The Israeli Energy Ministry said its Yam Tetis gas field was under orders to “respond accordingly” after gas supplies from Egypt were stopped as a precaution because of an explosion.

    Israel’s National Infrastructure Ministry’s spokeswoman said disruptions to Israel’s electricity production were not expected.

    http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE71401E20110205?sp=true

  253. U.S. envoy to Egypt: Mubarak ‘must stay’ for now
    By Bridget Johnson – The Hill 02/05/11

    Amid calls for President Hosni Mubarak to not wait until the end of his term to step down, the U.S. special envoy to Egypt told the Munich Security Conference that the 30-year ruler needs to stick around for now.

    Frank Wisner, a former ambassador to Egypt deployed there this past week to apparently urge Mubarak to hand over the reins, said Saturday that the transition “is an ideal moment for him to show the way forward.”

    Wisner spoke to the conference via video link from New York.

    “We need to get a national consensus around the pre-conditions for the next step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes,” he said.

    “I believe that President Mubarak’s continued leadership is critical — it’s his chance to write his own legacy,” Wisner added, according to reports.

    President Obama also referred to Mubarak’s legacy Friday in appealing for him to make “the right decision” and “make a judgment about a pathway forward that is orderly but also meaningful and serious.”

    Wisner said caution should be exercised in the transition because “this is a very volatile and dangerous time.”

    “The more Egyptians hear from the outside world that the president’s got to go, and this has got to happen, that’s got to happen, we create a negative force inside of Egypt itself,” he said in arguing that rhetoric shouldn’t get out of control.

    The White House quickly tried to distance itself from the comments. Agence France-Presse reported that a member of the U.S. delegation said Wisner was speaking as a private citizen and not on behalf of the U.S. government.

  254. NewMexicoFan
    February 6th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Admin, I have a comment caught in the Filter. It has two links, which is why it was trapped by the filter. This comment has to do with the Team Hillary Clinton blog on facebook. It looks to be like they are turning the blog over the Hillary Staff. I would like to have other opinions on this, so go to that blog and tell me what you think.
    ——
    NMF, I’m not a fan of Still4Hill and probably will be dumping that site off my Facebook page.

  255. Suleiman has accused the Brotherhood, businessmen and foreigners he has not identified as being behind a wave of looting and arson that swept much of the country last weekend after security forces inexplicably withdrew from the streets.

    [[ Nobody could think of looting on their own? ]]

    In Munich, Germany, on Sunday, the AP reported that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Obama administration would withhold judgment on the Brotherhood’s decision to enter a dialogue with Mubarak’s regime.

    [[ Withhold judgement till we know more? What a concept! ]]

  256. “Jihadists suggested that Muslims in Sinai take advantage of Egyptian unrest and strike the Arish-Ashkelon gas pipeline, arguing that it would have a major impact on Israel,” SITE said.

    ———————
    What a surprise.

  257. “It is just disturbing beyond belief that a US President would make such a demand for a group like the Muslim Brotherhood, yet he did. Shocking.”

    —————–
    wbboei,

    There is only one name for this fake potus and I can’t say it on here.

  258. it was when wikileaks began talking about exposing a big bank, that the push to arrest and shut Assange up began.

    ======================

    Right. That’s how the dates lined up.

    Afgan helicopter shooting, no response. State Dept cables, no response. Wikileaks announces they’re going to release bank data — and hell breaks loose. Paypal and Amazon and even a Swiss bank freeze Assange’s accounts. Pretty soon the Swedish police send out a red alert Interpol warrant for him on nonsense sex charges.

    I heard that was only the second Interpol sex warrant Sweden sent out in 2010; the first was for a real serial violent criminal. And Assange isn’t even charged; just ‘wanted for questioning’. Sure this should be an Interpol priority.

  259. No one wants to be President of Egypt

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    LOL. Would you, at this point?

    Target for assassination, with an army that doesn’t obey and that is more popular with the people than you are? And police with no more guns, they all got stolen.

  260. And full transcripts were supposed to be released naming the bank, naming individuals involved etc…sometime in January?…
    We never heard a word because suddenly Wikileaks went silent.
    In Today’s news it was announced the government has fined and penalized BOA $410,000,000 in a Class Action suit brought by defrauded bank customers.

    =====================

    I hope Wikileaks hasn’t been that badly damaged. They’re not too far behind schedule yet. Or, I wonder if the class action suit being near resolution made them back off, give BOA a lower priority.

  261. I’ve been trying to get AJ for a couple of hours and it seems the live stream is down for them.

    Tried getting news on Fox and CNN about Egypt, and they are all so freakin’ excited about Ronnie Raygun and the year he would be 100 if he hadn’t died. Makes me sick, the guy was our gov. and really screwed up my state and then all of a sudden when he was Pres. he becomes some Rethug saint.

    Puke.

  262. These bloody journalists, why do i need to know what the Obama’s are eating at their dumbass celeb superbowl party, really is that the heaight of newsworthiness today.

    Obama’s having a cheeseburger. Who the hell cares unless the fucker chokes on it.

  263. Those who are Obama worshpers are called OBOTS. So what are those who unrealistically worship Ronald Reagan called?

  264. WH releases Obama’s healthy Super Bowl party menu PtI: Bratwurst, Kielbasa, Cheeseburgers, Deep Dish Pizza, Buffalo… did michelle pick this cholesterol bomb.

  265. Ray-Gun….that’s what Confloyd calls him.

    Well whatever it is, that unrealistic worship gets a little old!

  266. What was the point of that, really?

    O’Reilly may as well got down on his knees and blew him.

    That was idiotic softball interview ever.

  267. JanH,I love Hillary and always will, but I am disappointed that she has to follow BO’s talking points allowing a terrorist organization who openly calls for the destruction of Israel to potentially be included in a newly formed government.

  268. And we’ll hear for days and days from BillO himself what a tough guy he was but fair to BO in that interview. Then Bill will bring on that gal to analyze his body language to show what a fantastic job he did.

    Can hardly wait until BillO is a has been.

  269. O’Riley has been soft on Obama from day one..compare his coverage of Hillary/Bill and the bias is incredible. The only one worth watching on that channel is Greta Van Sustern.

  270. Our Girl never stops giving of her time and wisdom.

    Travels With the Secretary
    The Secretary of State travels to all corners of the world to do her job. Her duties as Secretary include acting as the President’s representative at all international forums; negotiating treaties and other international agreements, and conducting everyday, face-to-face diplomacy.

    As Secretary of State:
    Total Travel Time: 993.15 hours (41.4 days)
    Total Countries Visited: 79
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  271. jbstonesfan
    February 6th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    JanH,I love Hillary and always will, but I am disappointed that she has to follow BO’s talking points allowing a terrorist organization who openly calls for the destruction of Israel to potentially be included in a newly formed government.

    —————————–

    It’s really hard for me too. I keep wondering if these talking points, as bad as they are, have been whittled down from Bo’s beginning horrendous talking points. In which case Hillary has lessened the degree of damage as well as she can.

  272. But I don’t believe she has been that specific as to name which groups should be allowed at the table (maybe HE did, and she spoke more generally, as Jan has suggested). I’ve just heard her say (not her exact words): we need fair, transparent elections, with parties that respect the rights of ALL the people… (I think this last part is her way of ruling OUT the MB)

  273. have been whittled down from Bo’s beginning horrendous talking points..
    **********
    Barry’s only talking points about the economy, Israel, Egypt, etc is “Don’t bother me with that…”

    Hillary is fighting against Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, probably John Kerry and god knows who else in the WH. Obama just wants to watch the S.B and make plans to meet the winning team. “They” tried to one up Hillary when they sent Wisner to Egypt but that backfired on Barry.

  274. Doing my duty for 44, I just sat through the BOR interview with BO.

    Surprisingly, BOR asked some tough wquestions about heathcare, the MB and how Bo feels about people hating him.

    Naturally, the potus said the hardest thing about the job was that all the easy questions get settled before they get to his desk and he has to make all the hard choices.

    I wanted to smack his purple-lipped mouth and tell him to grow the F**K up.

  275. I thought I read that sending Wisner was Hillary’s idea….?
    *******
    Who knows but usually when things turn to shit the MSM says it was Hillary’s idea. “Special envoys” are usually the WH way of by-passing the SOS, until the special envoy come back and says the President’s position is wrong, then it’s Hillary’s fault.

  276. Lorac,

    He even complained about having to wear a shirt and jacket and said that’s not what he would be wearing if he wasn’t president.

    BOR pointed out he wasn’t wearing a tie. I have to admit, BOR nailed him with a couple of real zingers and BO got all squirmy and fake-smiley.

    What a POS idiot he is. Bush might have said presidenting is hard work but at least, being a rancher, he knew a thing or two about the topic.

  277. The first head of CHEKA was Felix Derjinsky. His motto was the CHEKA does not judge–it strikes. Shortly after the October Revolution he set up an organization calle The Trust. The ostensible purpose of the trust was to be a refuge for white Russians in exile. The real purpose was to draw then out of hiding, and learn their secrets so the CHEKA could strike them. Among their victims was British Spy Master Sidney Reilly. The former British Ambassador Bruce Lockhart told the whole story in a book called Reilly Ace of Spies. And it describes The Trust.

    It is not beyond the realm of possibility that our own CIA is using the Muslim Brotherhood as a front organization to draw terrorist out of hiding–not al Qaeda necessarily but others. That would explain the United States support for that seemingly terrorist organization. It could be flypaper to attract and catch the flies. The only problem is there is absolutely no evidence to prove this theory. Indeed the evidence we do have points to the opposite conclusion namely that despite all the denials this is a terrorist organization. It was implicated in the assassination of Sadat, believes in Shria Law, wants to gouge the west, etc. This fine group that this fine president is supporting with the concurrence of Iran, Cuba and other nations who harbor only good will toward the United States.

  278. Hillary is fighting against Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, probably John Kerry and god knows who else in the WH. Obama just wants to watch the S.B and make plans to meet the winning team. “They” tried to one up Hillary when they sent Wisner to Egypt but that backfired on Barry.
    ———————————-
    My assumption is that he was Hillary’s choice. And I expect it had the backing of the Council of Foreign Relations, who are looking like fools at this point. I doubt Wisener is the kind of individual Obama would select because he could not control him. If Obama People had their druthers they would send Brian Williams or Mrs. Vanderbilt’s precious baby boy. That way they could be sure of getting the phony answers they wanted. However it is doubtful Mubarack would meet with them.

  279. A Bill O’Reilly interview of Bambi is what they call in polite company a circle jerk and total waste of airtime. O’Reilly is a human version of telebama, and by the time he is done with the interview you know less than when you started/

  280. Well, BO smiled and laughed a lot in that interview. That wouldn’t have happened if it had been another Brett Baier interview!

  281. Lorac,

    Very true. Baier is good. Still, I think BO came off looking shifty and uncomfortable. If I hadn’t heard accounts of the interview at other blogs I would not have wasted 14 minutes of my life watching it.

  282. I doubt Wisener is the kind of individual Obama would select because he could not control him..
    ********
    Possible, but I still find it hard to believe that Obama knows or cares enough to select anyone other than Valerie Jarret and Reggie.

  283. Obama dyed his hair again for that interview. If he’s going to dye it, he should do it consistently like Reagan did. O”Reilly asked his questions quickly and made his little disagreement remarks after each answer. And O did well keeping up the pace and squirming out of any direct answers that could be used against him later.

  284. SHV
    February 6th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    —————–
    All these people she is up against and still she works her heart out to do what is right.

  285. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html
    one of the historians of the French Revolution of 1789 wrote that it was not the product of poor people but of poor lawyers. You can have political/economic setups that disappoint the poor for generations – but if lawyers, teachers and doctors are sitting in their garrets freezing and starving you get revolution. Now, in their garrets, they have a laptop and broadband connection.

  286. Mason, same url:
    there are also examples in the UK: much of the political discourse – on both sides of the House of Commons – is treated by many young people as a barely intelligible “noise” – and this goes wider than just the protesters.
    (For example: I’m finding it common among non-politicos these days that whenever you mention the “Big Society” there’s a shrug and a suppressed laugh – yet if you move into the warren of thinktanks around Westminster, it’s treated deadly seriously. Dissing the Big Society has quickly become a “meme” that crosses political tribal boundaries under the Coalition, yet most professional politicians are deaf to “memes” as the youth are to the contents of Hansard.)

    So what is this (UK) ‘Big Society’?

    And what is my ignorance of it an example of?

  287. Well, I can’t post the comments section at the Mason article, but here’s a dumb comment from it. Hillary is SAYING it’s just a matter of time, here as elsewhere.

    Today, I was astonished to see Hilary clinton smile as she said: ‘Some leaders may honestly beleive that their country is an exception, that their people will not demand greater or political oppoertunities, or that they can be placated with half-measures. Again, in the short term that may be true, but in the long term, it is untenable.’

    Either the woman is as deluded as our own political leaders or she is planning on retiring before the very same thing kicks off in the US.

    It’s a matter of time. This year? Next year? Ten years? But it will. And it will here too, sooner or later.

  288. Krugman:

    February 5, 2011, 12:05 PM
    Soaring Food Prices
    What’s behind the surge in food prices? The usual suspects have made the usual claims — it’s all about the Fed, or it’s all about speculators. But I’ve been looking at the USDA World supply and demand estimates, and what stands out from the data is mainly that we’ve had a huge global harvest failure.
    [….]
    Why is production down? Most of the decline in world wheat production, and about half of the total decline in grain production, has taken place in the former Soviet Union — mainly Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan. And we know what that’s about: an incredible, unprecedented heat wave.
    [ links to http://climateprogress.org/2010/08/09/russia-heat-wave-one-thousand-years-global-warming/ ]

  289. “I always thought our first black president would be a Republican. I guess I was right.”

    From the comments at Krugman’s.

  290. Thanks for the BOR link to the discussion with BO.

    My take, Bill asked a couple of hard questions but was easily snowed over with Barry’s smoke and mirrors talk. Bill was too worried about kissing Barry’s ass to continue getting deeper into the BOs answers, and it was all a bunch of mush when said and done.

    What did we learn from the entire interview?
    -Barry likes football, smoozies with folks until the game starts, and wants to wear regular clothes. He things he has to solve too many difficult questions and because he ‘likes’ being pResident more as time goes on……….then he will run in 2012.
    He plans to gum of the HellCare lawsuits in the courts with appeals.

    I didn’t learn a thing new…

  291. Btw I’m a little suspicious of those China photos. One comment said one was dated 2009. Each might have been taken just after building but be filled up by now. Don’t see any trees or grass growing anywhere.

  292. From the Kuwait Times:
    ______________

    Hillary in a good mood

    By Badrya Darwish

    What is this sudden change in the tone of Mrs Hillary Clinton? I was surprised with her statement the other day following the turmoil in Egypt. Here is what she said: “Some leaders may honestly believe that their country is an exception. In the short term that may be true, but in the long term, it is untenable.”

    I was shocked but I loved it. Hooray, Mrs Clinton! I was pleased to see that for a change you are speaking the mind of the men on the Arab street. So far, the Americans did not take any notice of the feelings of the people in our region – I am talking about the Middle East in particular. Thank God, a revolution took place in Tunisia and Egypt and people came out demanding their rights in numbers which governments cannot stop. This is what forced the West to side with the people.

    Mrs Clinton’s statement was great considering the circumstances that she gave a warning to leaders. She further emphasized by saying that “governments who consistently deny people freedom and opportunity are the ones who will in the end open the door to instability”.

    It is not Mrs Clinton who is now preoccupied with the plight and interests of the men on the streets of the Arab world. Mrs Merkel in Germany, Cameron in the UK and Sarkozy in France are all calling and are worried about the safety of the demonstrators. Every now and then they give statements asking governments not to use military action against journalists and peaceful demonstrators.

    I hope that the new shift of tone in the policy of the West, whether it is Europe or the US, will continue to cover the whole Middle East, not just Tunisia and Egypt. The talk of democracy should prevail also for the rights of people from the Atlantic ocean to the Arabian Gulf. Please, Hillary, as you are in a good mood regarding the feelings of the nations, could you do us a favor and kindly reconsider your feelings for the stance of the people who chose Hamas to be their democratically elected governing
    authority. Or is this too far-fetched for you?

    Also, please reconsider the suppression of the people in the West Bank. Give people in the West Bank not the right to demonstrate freely and abuse the Israeli army, but at least the minimum right to stay in their homes and not be evicted from their homes which are then given to settlers.

    Maybe the revolution of the masses could remind the governments in the West to change their planned roadmap for the Middle East.
    _______________

    True: Hamas was elected, we declared it “terrorist”.

  293. wbboei: “It is not beyond the realm of possibility that our own CIA is using the Muslim Brotherhood as a front organization to draw terrorist out of hiding…. It could be flypaper to attract and catch the flies. The only problem is there is absolutely no evidence to prove this theory.”
    _____________

    There is some evidence for this, because that is exactly why the Brits instituted the Muslim Brotherhood in the first place – as flypaper to catch the flies who were itching to revolt against their Empire.

    The MB is committed to non-violence, but that does not mean they don’t have a few loose cannons in their fold. As I said above, it works like Free Masonry.

  294. Civility? TV is going nuts with this:

    Video: Christina Aguilera Screws Up The National Anthem At The Super Bowl
    http://www.businessinsider.com/watch-christina-aguilera-screws-up-the-national-anthem-at-the-super-bowl-2011-2
    —————-
    Sadly, The wonderful and challenging Star Spangled Banner has been made to appear so pi (politically incorrect … to immigrants of course) that patriots rarely have an opportunity to sing it. Even in the best of times, any verse beyond the first was rarely performed. Aguilera had an honorable and plausible reply, but the bashing goes on, which is no surprise to anyone here.

  295. “The MB is committed to non-violence, but that does not mean they don’t have a few loose cannons in their fold. As I said above, it works like Free Masonry.”
    __________________________

    If they are committed to non-violence, why aren’t they punishing and imprisoning the MB’s “loose cannons”?

    Works like Free Masonry? How?

  296. Clusterfuck : This is a PR disaster.

    US envoy’s business link to Egypt dictator Hosni Mubarak revealed

    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-envoys-business-link-to-egypt-dictator-hosni-mubarak-revealed-15075746.html#ixzz1DHEsoQaA

    Frank Wisner, President Barack Obama’s envoy to Cairo who infuriated the White House this weekend by urging Hosni Mubarak to remain President of Egypt, works for a New York and Washington law firm which works for the dictator’s own Egyptian government.

    Mr Wisner’s astonishing remarks – “President Mubarak’s continued leadership is critical: it’s his opportunity to write his own legacy” – shocked the democratic opposition in Egypt and called into question Mr Obama’s judgement, as well as that of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    The US State Department and Mr Wisner himself have now both claimed that his remarks were made in a “personal capacity”. But there is nothing “personal” about Mr Wisner’s connections with the litigation firm Patton Boggs, which openly boasts that it advises “the Egyptian military, the Egyptian Economic Development Agency, and has handled arbitrations and litigation on the [Mubarak] government’s behalf in Europe and the US”. Oddly, not a single journalist raised this extraordinary connection with US government officials – nor the blatant conflict of interest it appears to represent.

    Mr Wisner is a retired State Department 36-year career diplomat – he served as US ambassador to Egypt, Zambia, the Philippines and India under eight American presidents. In other words, he was not a political appointee. But it is inconceivable Hillary Clinton did not know of his employment by a company that works for the very dictator which Mr Wisner now defends in the face of a massive democratic opposition in Egypt.

    So why on earth was he sent to talk to Mubarak, who is in effect a client of Mr Wisner’s current employers?

    Patton Boggs states that its attorneys “represent some of the leading Egyptian commercial families and their companies” and “have been involved in oil and gas and telecommunications infrastructure projects on their behalf”. One of its partners served as chairman of the US-Egyptian Chamber of Commerce promoting foreign investment in the Egyptian economy. The company has also managed contractor disputes in military-sales agreements arising under the US Foreign Military Sales Act. Washington gives around $1.3bn (£800m) a year to the Egyptian military.

    Mr Wisner joined Patton Boggs almost two years ago – more than enough time for both the White House and the State Department to learn of his company’s intimate connections with the Mubarak regime. The New York Times ran a glowing profile of Mr Wisner in its pages two weeks ago – but mysteriously did not mention his ties to Egypt.

  297. Obama’s Role in Empowering the Muslim Brotherhood

    By Ed Lasky

    The Obama administration is claiming that the president has been out in front of the crisis in Egypt. The facts prove otherwise. He has been behind the curve and has badly damaged American interests — perhaps irretrievably so.

    Barack Obama’s campaign was built on spin and speeches. His presidency has used these tools to present a false image. In this case, his chief spin maestro, David Axelrod, has been peddling the story that Barack Obama has been “out ahead of this” (“this” being the crisis in Egypt).

    Politico Journalist Josh Gerstein was skeptical and fact-checked Axelrod’s boastful claim. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has parroted the same story line. Gerstein found it wanting:

    To hear soon-to-depart White House senior adviser David Axelrod tell it, President Barack Obama has long taken a tough line with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak over human rights and political reform issues in his country.

    “The way [Obama has] confronted it, is he went to Cairo and talked about the need, the universal human rights of people. He’s on several occasions directly confronted Pres. Mubarak on it. And pushed him on the need for political reform in his country,” Axelrod told ABC’s Jake Tapper Friday, on the adviser’s last day of work at the White House.

    “To get ahead of this?” Tapper asked.

    “Exactly. To get ahead of this. This is a project he’s been working on for two years, and today the president is working hard to encourage restraint and a cessation of violence against the people of Egypt,” said Axelrod.

    “Nice myth,” said one human rights advocate I asked about Axelrod’s description.

    There are a couple of problems with Axelrod’s account. First, there’s little public evidence that Obama “confronted” Mubarak on these issues. White House officials have said the subjects were raised in meetings between the men, but when the two met publicly there was little indication that Obama was pressuring Mubarak on the issue.

    During the 25-minute press availability during the pair’s Oval Office meeting in August 2009, Obama didn’t mention the issue. Mubarak was the one who brought it up, telling the press how “friendly” their exchange on the subject was and suggesting a rather leisurely timeline to make changes.

    The other sleight-of-hand in Axelrod’s comment is his suggestion that Obama’s visit to Cairo in June 2009 was intended or perceived as speaking hard truths to Mubarak. To the contrary, many in the region, in other Muslim countries and the U.S. ( see here and here) saw the choice of Egypt for Obama’s first speech to the Muslim world as a huge laurel for Mubarak, not an albatross. Obama’s speech made no direct reference to political reform or human rights issues in Egypt, save for a passing reference to Christian Copts there. There were also reports that the U.S. eased up on democracy promotion there.

    However confrontational the Obama administration’s approach to this issue may have been over the past two years, I certainly don’t remember Obama administration officials ever publicly suggesting, as White House press secretary Robert Gibbs did directly on Friday, that U.S. aid to Egypt was in jeopardy.

    He was not ahead of the curve but, in an all-too-rare instance of budget-cutting, slashed aid to groups that might have been key players (and allies of the United States) when a new government is established.

    The Los Angeles Times reports that Barack Obama had not just ignored Egyptian human rights issues over the past two years, but actually cut funding for activist groups trying to reform Egypt:

    Although President Obama has sided firmly with pro-democracy protesters in Egypt, his administration spent its first two years easing the U.S. push for human rights reforms in that country.

    Early in Obama’s presidency, officials cut in half funding to promote democracy in Egypt. They also agreed to restrict certain grants only to organizations licensed by President Hosni Mubarak’s authoritarian regime, reversing a Bush administration policy of funding groups at odds with the government.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, at a March 2009 meeting with Mubarak at an Egyptian resort on the Red Sea, seemed to downplay a State Department report documenting torture, rape and political detentions in Egypt.

    “We issue these reports on every country,” Clinton told a television interviewer. “And so we hope that it will be taken in the spirit in which it is offered, that we all have room for improvement.”

    Egyptian dissidents were distressed by the administration’s message.

    “All this sent a signal that was very damaging,” said Stephen McInerney, executive director of the Project on Middle East Democracy, a Washington advocacy group.

    Indeed, the reviled Bush administration was the administration that was ahead of the curve — though its ardor for change cooled as time went on. But Obama regressed even further on the issue of reform and human rights.

    Obama spoke in general terms about political rights in his seminal address to the Muslim world in Cairo in 2009, but did not explicitly demand reform in Egypt, as former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice did in 2005. Rice’s remarks reflected then-President George W. Bush’s “freedom agenda” for the Middle East, which involved stepped-up pressure for democratic reforms.

    The Bush administration pressured Mubarak into holding elections in 2005 that though flawed, were the fairest in the country’s history, analysts say. But harsh interrogations of terrorism suspects, secret CIA prisons and the Iraq war tainted the Bush approach. And after Palestinian elections in 2006 that brought Hamas to power in Gaza, Bush’s ardor for Arab democracy cooled.

    Obama pulled back further.

    Not only has Barack Obama been behind the curve, but he worsened the dynamic by slashing funding in half for groups that could have been our allies for true Democratic change. Why the budget-cutting? Obama did the same for a Boston-based Iran human rights group that had been monitoring and publicizing and recording for posterity Iranian human rights abuses — except in that case, Obama terminated all funding. The man who has rung up trillion-dollar deficits tries to save a few million dollars by cuts to human rights groups?

    Now, because of his multiple failures, Obama is playing catch-up. Obama is way behind the curve. How has he been playing his own badly self-dealt hand? By chumming up with one of the most radical groups of all, the radically anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Christian, and anti-Semitic Muslim Brotherhood. His administration, while slashing aid to Egyptian human rights groups, actually courted the Muslim Brotherhood and invited members to attend his Cairo Speech. The engagement (and empowerment) has continued apace.

    Robert Gibbs stated that the Obama administration was urging the inclusion of “important non-secular actors” in whatever government takes over from the Mubarak regime. This was widely interpreted to mean the Muslim Brotherhood (this group is by far the most influential and important “non-secular” actor in Egypt). Furthermore, the Obama team’s proposal for the immediate transfer of power calls for the transitional government to include the Muslim Brotherhood, the New York Times reported on Friday.

    David Horovitz of the Jerusalem Post notes that Barack Obama never delivered significant pressure on Mubarak to reform, and this apathy was starkly confirmed by December’s massive fraudulent parliamentary elections. Horovitz writes:

    Washington evidently failed to foresee that embittered Egyptians might then resort to the massed protests of the past two weeks, and it abandoned Mubarak with alacrity as it scrambled to avoid being caught on the wrong side of a largely spontaneous people’s push for freedom and democracy.

    But however one gauges the realpolitik involved in that dramatic recoil from a 30-year ally, the White House’s subsequent reported moves to legitimate Egypt’s Islamists — whose outlook conflicts utterly with the democratic agenda — make no sense, and suggest a frighteningly superficial understanding of the Muslim Brotherhood’s intentions and potential achievements.

    Far from learning the lessons of the Islamists’ skilled subversion of other pro-democracy movements, working with potential leaders of an Egyptian transition to minimize the risk of such a process recurring, and making publicly plain that there will be no ongoing American alliance with an Egypt in which an unreformed Islamist movement has even a marginal role in government, the White House seems to be actively encouraging a transitional outreach to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Horovitz further outlines the history of Middle East regimes that incorporate groups similar to the Muslim Brotherhood. They burrow into governments and then take over, all but destroying the Democratic process that brought them to power — often at the behest of Western powers. They become anti-American and become terror-supporting states. They fall out of the so-called American orbit — perhaps for many years to come (as has Iran). They trample the rights of women, abuse their children by teaching the tools of Islamism and not the tools needed to live in the 21st century, and use their mosques and media to brainwash their people to hate America. They give rise to more terrorism that can wash up on our own shores.

    Now history seems to be repeating itself as tragedy.

    Abe Greenwald at Commentary Contentions notes that the Obama administration seems to be countenancing and endorsing a role for the Muslim Brotherhood in the new Egyptian regime:

    Things could be taking a dangerous turn in Egypt. The Washington Post reports that the Muslim Brotherhood has new interest in participating in talks on the transition of leadership. “The Brotherhood had refused to join talks Saturday, insisting that Mubarak leave first. But leaders of the movement changed their minds Sunday, saying they wanted to play a role in shaping a transition of power and organizing free elections.”

    The American response has been less than inspiring. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told National Public Radio: “Today we learned the Muslim Brotherhood decided to participate, which suggests they at least are now involved in the dialogue that we have encouraged.” Yes, participation does suggest involvement, doesn’t it? “We’re going to wait and see how this develops,” she said, “but we’ve been very clear about what we expect.”

    The only party that has actually been clear about what it expects is the Muslim Brotherhood – and it expects to rule.

    Barack Obama failed to capitalize on his initial worldwide popularity to push for democratic reforms in the Muslim world. He could have funded, supported, and promoted a wide range of true human rights groups that could have brought about a stable Egypt that would uphold its treaties and still be a reliable ally of America. Instead, he slashed funding for these groups, gave them zero moral or diplomatic support, and is now — with alacrity (as Horvitz notes) — abandoning Mubarak and empowering the Muslim Brotherhood.

    So has Barack Obama been ahead of the curve? Only if you think he wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to assume power.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/obamas_role_in_empowering_the.html

  298. Well well well. Seems that we have a Cassandra in our midst, and she must be silenced and intimidated!

    I speak of Meredith Whitney, who recently told the truth about muni bonds being in trouble. So after some bonds crashed, was she lauded for her foresight? Nope. She’s being hauled before congress to “explain” her comments, since the problem is obviously not that the bonds were bad on fundamentals, but that the bitch opened her trap and TOLD people that..

    A congressional subcommittee that’s investigating the implosion of the $3 trillion muni bond market wants Meredith Whitney “to come clean and explain her doomsday prediction of hundreds of billions of dollars in muni defaults over the next year,” Charlie Gasparino reports.

    I find this incredibly amusing, given the following report:

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Federal regulators are investigating Rhode Island’s bond offerings, adding it to the list of state and municipal governments to come under scrutiny by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    This is on top of Illinois and Pennsylvania issuers.

    The problem? Pension funds, among other things. A black hole that I’ve often commented on. Given the state Constitutional issues with these funds, and the lack of a PBGC exit capacity for the States (in present law), there’s little that can be done about it at this point too.

    Will it detonate all municipal debt? No. But that’s not what Merideth said. She said that there would be “many” defaults and reach hundreds of billions in face value.

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=179313

    Below is from the comments. They don’t care if what she said was true or not – they didn’t like her tone:

    The linked article at Business Insider has another link “Click here to see four reasons why everyone thinks Meredith Whitney is garbage”. (How’s that for an ad hominem?) These contain a further link to “Twelve reasons Meredith Whitney is wrong about the Muni crisis”.

    But there is one part of Gasparino’s report that is worrisome, if true:
    Quote:

    As first reported by FOX Business, Whitney’s report differed substantially in tone from her comments. In fact, the report stated that despite large state budget gaps, there would likely be no defaults on the state level, and it made just a passing reference to some defaults among municipalities.

    Many analysts have criticized Whitney for the differences between the report and her public comments.

    Of course, the irony of all this is that they are blaming the entire Muni meltdown on Whitney’s comments and not the underlying “fundamentals”.
    She has one hell of an influential voice if she can accomplish all that single-handedly.
    Quote:

    The call sparked massive panic among small investors

    So now you can get hauled before Congress for looking at the market and opining that the emperor has no clothes?

  299. Hmm.. I remember when George Washington was a jihadist. Advocating jihad because one of the pillars of Masonry is exterminating the non Mason infidels.
    _______________________

    February 07, 2011

    Appeasing the Muslim Brotherhood — Obama’s Rubicon Moment

    By Eileen F. Toplansky

    Signed on September 17, 1978, the Camp David Accords ushered in a peace between Egypt and Israel. This peace is clearly in jeopardy now that Obama has shown that America can no longer be trusted to aid its allies, let alone its own interests. In 2010, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano secretly met with the Muslim Brotherhood, “a movement that uses a religious identity to mask its political agenda.” Also in 2010, the U.N. Security Council “quietly dropped Youssef Nada, a prominent financial and diplomatic representative of the Muslim Brotherhood from an international sanctions list directed at curbing the activities of alleged terrorist financiers.” At the time, Victor Comras, a former adviser on financial sanctions believed that “the Obama administration would have had to signal that it was willing to go along with this decision.”

    The Muslim Brotherhood, long a supporter of Hamas and Hezb’allah, deliberately works to “foster confusion” in order to obfuscate its real message. Thus, conflicting messages come from the Brotherhood leaders, yet it is patently apparent that they are committed to the destruction of Israel. During the Holy Land Foundation case, one of the most interesting exhibits was a “Muslim Brotherhood memorandum by Mohamed Akram, dated May 22, 1991, where he outlines the Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] vision of the future.” Thus, “the Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

    The Brotherhood’s slogan depicting a Koran and swords reinforces the group’s commitment to jihad and worldwide Islamification. On October 27, 2009, the Muslim Brotherhood Sheik Mahdi Akef claimed that the “Arab rulers are more despicable than the Zionists” and urged his listeners “to wage jihad.” In 2007, Akef said that the “Brotherhood has not recognized Camp David from the very first day it was signed.” In 2004, Akef declared “his complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America.”

    More recently, in his February 4, 2011 Friday sermon, Iranian Supreme Leader Al-Khamenei exhorted his listeners as he described the events in Egypt as an “Islamic liberation movement.” He reminded his followers of the Iranian Revolution, also known as the Islamic revolution or 1979 Revolution, and reflected on certain parallels with the current Egyptian uprising. Khamenei called the Camp David peace treaty signed by Egypt and Israel the “Treaty of Shame.” Syria was praised by Khamenei, while Egypt’s Mubarak is cited as a traitor to the Islamic movement. Moreover, Khamenei told his worshipers “not [to] trust the role played by the West and America. … ”

    Ominously, Khamenei explained that “the religious scholars, and Al-Azhar … [would] play a much more significant role [in the new Islamic revolution].” Thus, “when the people embark on its revolution from the mosques and the Friday sermons, and raise the slogan of ‘Allah Akbar,’ the Islamic scholars are expected to play a more prominent role. This expectation is in place.”

    From his pulpit, Khamenei avowed that “the Zionist enemy, not the Egyptian people, should tremble in fear of the Egyptian army,” as he believes the Egyptian army will [eventually] join the masses.”

    In November 2007, Lt. Col. (ret.) Jonathan D. Halevi wrote for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs that the Muslim Brotherhood’s “top priority is constructing a Muslim infrastructure in the West which will slowly but surely enable it to rule during the 21st century. As far as the final goal is concerned, there are no policy differences between al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. The two organizations have the same objective: to place the entire world under an Islamic caliphate.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/appeasing_the_muslim_brotherho.html

  300. More on Whitney being hauled before congress. TBTB are playing to defend the fake markets now. The only way to keep the run going, to keep the bubble inflated, is if investors believe despite all evidence to the contrary.
    If that is the way you think, then it is indeed dangerous for a prominent analyst to stop clapping and saying “I believe in fairies”. If you are propping the markets up on lie upon lie, then you can argue to yourself that anyone exposing those lies is a “threat to the system”.

    “STOP lying and let’s deal with the truth, however painful that truth might be”, is not even a consideration for these asshats. Because then the people might figure out how badly they’d been screwed, and how much wealth TBTB have sucked out of this country. And then the people might hold them accountable. So the pretense must go on, otherwise THEY are screwed.
    And of course, by doing that, by shoving the losses under the rug, and continuing to prop up the banks and not let those losses be realized lest the people revolt, they are dooming our country. The crime was bad, but the cover-up is worse, and is eating away the substance of this country.

    And the ironic thing is, they are not disputing that those bonds were weak and crap on fundamentals, and were inflated merely on a bubble of “belief”.

    They are arguing that she should not have pointed that out to people, and popped their fragile bubble of fantasy. They are basically arguing that if only they could have kept people deluded as to the true value, all would have been well.

    It’s truly Orwellian when you think about it. She killed Tinkerbell because she refused to just “believe”, and urge others to “believe”. This is our fiscal policy in a nutshell these days.

  301. “True: Hamas was elected, we declared it “terrorist”.”

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    And? So what is your point here? The declaration is wrong? Are you frickin kidding me???

  302. “He has been behind the curve and has badly damaged American interests — perhaps irretrievably so.”

    ““Nice myth,” said one human rights advocate I asked about Axelrod’s description.”

    “The Los Angeles Times reports that Barack Obama had not just ignored Egyptian human rights issues over the past two years, but actually cut funding for activist groups trying to reform Egypt”

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    And on and on… Great article by Lasky, Mrs. Smith.

  303. Hillary Clinton Makes It Clear

    Posted by Massimo Calabresi Monday, February 7, 2011

    Through luck or skill or a combination of the two, the Obama administration has seen things go its way over the last week in Egypt. With limited influence, a huge amount at stake and a variety of potential outcomes that ranged from bad to disastrous, the White House and State department have watched as events unfolded along the path onto which they were trying to guide them. Violence has been contained. Mubarak is clearly moving to the sidelines if not entirely off the scene. An interim power center around the well-known and professional if thuggish Omar Suleiman has coalesced. Talks are underway between the two sides. Most important, the timeline of change has been markedly slowed down to a pace where the administration can begin to try and influence things.

    Though they can claim only modest responsibility for these developments, the administration will eventually get around to taking credit for them: there is always time to play politics once the geostrategic earthquakes have passed. Likewise the punditry will exert themselves drawing conclusions about where on the notional and not-that-useful realist-idealist spectrum events have placed Obama.

    For now, the administration is focusing rather responsibly on how to keep things headed in the right direction. One can see this less in the O’Reilly interview with Obama before the Super Bowl, which presented a fairly anodyne repetition of talking points, than in the comments of Hillary Clinton on her way back from the annual security conference in Munich.

    Clinton, who has a well-ordered mind and is on top of her brief, laid everything out.

    SPECIAL STATE DEPARTMENT BRIEFING WITH SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY RODHAM

    CLINTON (AS RELEASED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT)

    EN ROUTE WASHINGTON, D.C. FROM MUNICH, GERMANY SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2011

    First she lays out what the goals have been:

    “We have said consistently, publicly and privately, we do not want to see any violence, we do not want to see violence from the security forces. We want to see peaceful protests. We want to see a process begun that will lead to an orderly transition that has milestones and concrete steps that lead us toward free and fair elections that install a new president who reflects the will and wishes of the Egyptian people. That has been our position. We have said it over and over and over again.

    Then she ticked off the progress:

    “[Mubarak] announced he wouldn’t run again. He announced his son wouldn’t run again. He announced he was resigning his position of the national party, and his son was resigning his position at the national party. He installed a vice president for the first time in 30 years. Those are significant actions.

    Then she laid out what the White House wants next:

    “Now, they do not constitute an orderly transition and the process leading up to it through dialogue and constitutional reform, creating a new approach to political parties, setting up an election, but I think they have to be viewed as a very important set of steps being taken to keep the movement going in the direction that we seek.

    Then she explains the hurdles:

    “They have a constitution which, as I understand it — and I am no expert on the Egyptian constitution, never gave it a moment’s thought, really, so now I am trying to play catch-up — as I understand the constitution, if the president were to resign, he would be succeeded by the speaker of the house. And presidential elections would have to be held in 60 days.

    Then she suggests that things have slowed to a pace where those hurdles can be managed:

    “Now, the Egyptians are the ones who are having to grapple with the reality of what they must do. And maybe I misheard it, but on CNN this morning, when one of your commentators was interviewing one of the leaders in the Muslim Brotherhood, and Al-Baradei, they were saying, ‘Well, it’s going to take time.’ Now, that’s not us saying it, it’s them saying it. Because once the protests have gotten the attention of the government — and we’ve seen what the government has done in response — I think there is an effort underway within the civil society, the opposition, the political parties, to say, “Okay, what comes next? And how do we get from where we are to where we want to end up?” That’s a really hard issue.

    Later, she talked about the knock-on effects Egypt is having in the region:

    “This is a very traumatic event. And it took a while even to accommodate — what did it mean, and was it going to last, and how would it be responded to… But I think that as it sinks in, there is a lot of soul searching going on about what more governments can do. And I hope it is, because there is no one-size-fits all. And — right? A formula that applies to every country in the region. But every country in the region (inaudible) says, “What more can I do to stamp out corruption, because it is a cancer that eats away at the hopes of young people looking for jobs?” I mean the young man who set himself on fire in Tunisia, which sparked their protest, apparently not only couldn’t get a job, even though he was a college graduate (inaudible), but was sick of paying for protection from government officials. I mean at some point, stop it. Open your economy. Make jobs available for young people. Give them a ladder of meritocracy and mobility that will begin to answer their needs.

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/07/hillary-clinton-makes-it-clear/

  304. sources : Jane Harman to quit Congress succeed Lee Hamilton heading Woodrow Wilson Center, DC think tank – will be official tomorrow

  305. Oh, for Heaven’s sake. Here is Obama on TV AGAIN giving a “Winning the Future” Campaign speech we’ve heard a zillion times at the US Chamber of Commerce.

    How could anyone in this country ever take this man seriously again?
    What a waste of TV time.

  306. February 7, 2011, 11:05 AM

    Bill Clinton to Meet With Blue Dogs

    Former President Bill Clinton, whose work with Republicans angered fellow Democrats during his tenure in the White House, speaks to centrist House Democrats later today in New York as members of the Blue Dog Coalition plot a path forward after nearly half of their colleagues lost or retired.

    The surviving Blue Dogs could prove crucial to any bipartisan deal-making that plays out over the next two years, particularly with regard to deficit reduction. But the barriers to cooperation remain high. While members of the coalition remain angry at Democratic leaders for forcing tough votes in the last Congress on health-care, climate-change and stimulus spending, these conservative Democrats have little love for the Republicans who targeted them and their colleagues in the last election.

    “The Blue Dogs are working to find ways to bring people together to develop middle of the road, common sense solutions to our nation’s biggest challenges,” said Arkansas Rep. Mike Ross, a leader of the group. “If we have any hope of doing what the American people sent us here to do – create jobs, pay down the debt and put our economy back on a fiscally sustainable path – both Republicans and Democrats must begin to work together.”

    Mr. Clinton revived his political prospects after a bruising initial midterm election, in part, by eventually working with the Republican majority in the House on deficit reduction and welfare reform. That cooperation earned him a reputation as a master of triangulation — along with a second term — but also generated plenty of scorn from fellow Democrats, particularly liberals. Mr. Obama has similarly pivoted to the political center since his Democrats lost a net of 63 seats in the House in the midterms. The president may seek political cover by enticing Blue Dogs to support any future legislative agreements with the GOP.

    “President Clinton has a proven record of success working with members of both parties to move this country forward,” Mr. Ross said. “His perspective will be invaluable as we continue to strive for a bipartisan Congress.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/02/07/bill-clinton-to-meet-with-blue-dogs/

  307. Actually, I think the title would be more truthful if “obama administration” was taken out so that it reads…Clinton has done more for…

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    Clinton: Obama Administration Has Done More for Israel Security Than Any Other U.S. Administration

    February 07, 2011

    With Egyptian unrest flaring over Israel’s shoulder and Palestinian demands for a capital in East Jerusalem ringing through Mideast peace process talks, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Sunday the Obama administration has done more for Israel’s security than any other U.S. presidency.

    Speaking to reporters during a trip home from Munich where she attended a global security conference of more than 70 nations, the top U.S. diplomat said the nation is “unalterably, unequivocally committed to Israel’s security.”

    “In fact, this administration, under President Obama, has done more in two years for Israel’s security than any administration in the past. So we not only talk about Israel’s security, we have delivered and will continue to deliver,” she said.

    Asked to provide an example of how the administration has ensured Israel’s security, Clinton responded: “I think that the facts speak for themselves about what we have done to help buttress and support Israel’s security. Some of it is unclassified, some of it is classified.”

    Adding that the administration is “on a constant outreach campaign,” Clinton said she is “not going to put any value statement” on her claim.

    Clinton’s comments followed a weekend meeting of members of the Quartet responsible for trying to forge a peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

    Afterward, the group issued a statement citing unrest in Egypt as an example of “how further delay in the resumption of negotiations is detrimental to prospects for regional peace and security.”

    It also emphasized the need for the parties “to undertake urgently the efforts to expedite Israeli-Palestinian and comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace.”

    Israel is on high alert as it deals with the potential of a new Egyptian regime coming into power that would end the 30-year peace agreement between Israel and Egypt and stop trade. On Saturday, a pipeline between Egypt and Israel exploded. Egyptian Judge Abdel Nasser el-Tayeb reportedly issued an investigative study Monday that concluded that four men stormed a terminal, restrained two guards and set off explosives by remote control.

    Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reported Monday that Israel has refused to allow more Egyptian troops into the Sinai, which is demilitarized Egyptian territory ceded by Israel in the 1979 peace accord. Last week, Israel approved the movement of 800 Egyptian troops to the area on Israel’s southern border.

    “We do not want it to seem as if the peace treaty is meaningless, particularly at a time when there could be a regime change in Egypt, which could renounce the treaty altogether,” a senior military source told the Jerusalem Post.

    As Israel looks askance at the potential security problems Egypt’s unrest may cause, it has offered Palestinians a series of goodwill measures to get the peace process going, including approval of new Arab housing projects in eastern Jerusalem, an extension of Palestinian Authority presence in the West Bank through the construction of schools and health clinics, and desalinization plants and gas field development in Gaza that would require shipping construction materials into Hamas-led territory.

    But Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat reportedly has rejected the offer calling it “tricks and procrastination.”

    Construction of 16 new apartments in East Jerusalem was approved by a building committee Monday. The Quartet statement added that it “regrets” Israel’s decision not to renew its 10-month moratorium on building. It also condemned rocket fire from Gaza on Israel.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/07/clinton-obama-administration-israel-security-administration/

  308. 100% correct Wbboei…I am an AOL user as my law office e-mail is unique and I don’t want to lose it. However, I can’t stand anythingg to do with the Huffington Post. The way those posters went after Hillary literally made me ill.

  309. Mr Wisner’s astonishing remarks – “President Mubarak’s continued leadership is critical: it’s his opportunity to write his own legacy” – shocked the democratic opposition in Egypt and called into question Mr Obama’s judgement, as well as that of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
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    Astonishing? Nor really. This is the position of Germany, Italy and other European allies. It makes sense if what you are interested in stability. The United States and Britain instigated this colors revolution based on the same modes we have seen in a half a dozen other venues. It is called a Soros revolution thus it is hardly surprising that he would weigh in. By the only way it works–the lynchpin so to speak is if the foreign leader they target leaves immediately, so the United States and Britain can move in and install their own puppet government. But if the foreign leader stays on long enough to install his own successor, then whoever he installs will not be a US puppet, will remember what we tried to do and will be our enemy. I must tell you that I hope is does not succeed because these colors revolutions can destabilize the world. The counter argument is repressive dictators breed terrorism which threatens US interest. I don’t buy it because if it were true they would have pushed the green rcvolution harder thatn they did in Iran, and they could take on Hugo, Fidel and others.

  310. The United States and Britain instigated this colors revolution based on the same modes we have seen in a half a dozen other venues. [….] if the foreign leader they target leaves immediately, so the United States and Britain can move in and install their own puppet government.

    ==================

    So why didn’t they have their puppets ready before instigating this one?

  311. It’s truly Orwellian when you think about it. She killed Tinkerbell because she refused to just “believe”, and urge others to “believe”. This is our fiscal policy in a nutshell these days.

    ========================

    Tinkerbell’s New Clothes?

  312. So why didn’t they have their puppets ready before instigating this one?
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    You can be certain that the puppets have been selected. And I am quite sure they have cadre of professors, poll watcher, political scientists mostly from Harvard with their bags packed ready to go in. And big media is poised to tell us that these puppets are the Egytian equivalent of George Washington. They have done this often before, and it has become as predictable as an assembly operation. To clarify what I said above, I think a transition here is reasonable but not this way..

  313. The call sparked massive panic among small investors

    So now you can get hauled before Congress for looking at the market and opining that the emperor has no clothes?

    =================

    Well, if not buying X is Interstate Commerce, so is telling people X is a bad bargain.

  314. JanH
    February 7th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    February 7, 2011, 11:05 AM

    Bill Clinton to Meet With Blue Dogs
    ————-

    Once again they send Big Dawg to attempt damage control, because the Blue Dogs are deserting in droves on the state and local level, and it ain’t because of RAAAYCIIISM.

    Meet Ashley Bell, a young man who looked to have a bright future in the Democratic Party. Now he looks for a brighter future — as a Republican. The former national president of College Democrats of America has joined an exodus of moderates and conservatives from the Democratic Party in the South after the midterm elections:

    For Democrats, Ashley Bell was the kind of comer that a party builds a future on: A young African American lawyer, he served as president of the College Democrats of America, advised presidential candidateJohn Edwards and spoke at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston.

    But after his party’s midterm beat-down in November, Bell, a commissioner in northern Georgia’s Hall County, jumped ship. He joined the Republicans.

    Bell, 30, said he had serious issues with the healthcare law and believed that conservative “blue dog” Democrats in Congress who shared his values had been bullied into voting for it.

    The Dimocratic Party has destroyed the old coalitions, as admin says, and are bleeding the sane and centrist from every vein. Soon they will be down to starry-eyed youth (not the sane, thoughtful youth), public unions, and govt hangers-on. Oh, and Wall Street.

  315. JanH, I have to respectfully disagree with Hillary. Obama has made Israel less secure, more isolated, and more threatened than any US administration ….This administartion has also opened up a flood gate of anti-semitism not seen since pre WW2 Nazi Germany.

  316. AJ is now blasting America, I am sure it is making more enemies for us…
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    What are they saying?

  317. Shadowfax
    February 7th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    AJ is now blasting America, I am sure it is making more enemies for us…
    ____________________

    AJ is a UK mounted mouthpiece busy playing good cop, bad cop. lol

  318. JanH
    February 7th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Hillary is going to be on Greta tonight.
    __________________________

    I have a funny story about Hillary.

    I’ll tell what it is after Greta.

  319. Gross incompetence. Just follow the bouncing ball: i) Obana issues a public demand that Mubarak step down now; ii) whereupon his big media cronies blast the headline Departure Day, iii) whereupon Germany and Italy warn him this is stupid, and advise him to pursue an orderly transition, iv) whereupon he sends former Ambassador Wisner in to talk Mubarack into stepping down now, v) whereupon Wisner comes back and publicly declares that Mubarack should not resign now because it would be destabizing, vi) whereupon Obama has his big media allies attack Wiser by suggesting he is on the take because his law firm re0resents Mubarak, vii) whereupon, Obama changes his position and agrees with Wisner.

    In the Navy, we called this comedy of errors being 180 out. Big media however has a different name for it: a series of pivots. Whatevewer you call it, whatever euphemism you deploy, cannot hide the gross incompetence we are seeing her. It is mindboggling on the one hand, and highly detrimental to our country on the other.
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    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration this weekend cast off an unusually candid diplomat sent to urge Hosni Mubarak to step down as president of Egypt, but appears now to be echoing the sentiments of Amb. Frank Wisner that an “orderly transition” can’t take place in a power vacuum.

    While several U.S. officials disowned Wisner, the retired U.S. diplomat whom Obama sent to Cairo last week to push Mubarak out, they agreed that it may be too difficult for Egypt to hold free and fair elections without some time for the institutions necessary to be put into place.

    Wisner shocked a conference of diplomats assembled in Munich Saturday when he said that Mubarak had to keep a leadership role at least temporarily if the “fragile glimmerings” of progress were to take hold as quickly as needed to prevent radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood from filling the void.

    “President Mubarak’s role remains utterly critical in the days ahead while we sort our way toward a future” in which Egypt is peaceful and moderate, and committed to its international obligations, including its peace treaty with Israel, Wisner said via teleconference.

    He added that the international community had to play a “protective and encouraging role.”

    “There is a chance, but we are in the early stages of seeing this take shape,” Wisner said. “It is not certain that matters cannot slip off the rails, that you can’t have renewed violence, violence in which radicals can push their case forward.”
    Nearly immediately the administration distanced itself from Wisner, whom critics say was recalled because of his ties to the Egyptian government — he worked for a firm that represents Egypt in the United States, not an uncommon activity among retired diplomats.

    “Former Ambassador Wisner is not an employee of the government,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Monday. “He was, based on his broad experience in Egypt, asked by the State Department … to travel to Cairo and have a specific conversation with President Mubarak. He did, and reported that back to us. But his views on who should or shouldn’t be the head of Egypt don’t represent the views of our administration.”

    “Oh, we all respect Frank and his service for many years, and appreciate his travel to Egypt. But he does not speak for the administration,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Sunday evening on her way back from Munich.
    But even as Clinton walked Wisner out onto the plank, she agreed that an “orderly transition” will take some time, and suggested that perhaps Mubarak will need to remain until that could occur.

    “As I understand the constitution, if the president were to resign, he would be succeeded by the speaker of the house. And presidential elections would have to be held in 60 days. Now, the Egyptians are the ones who are having to grapple with the reality of what they must do. … I think there is an effort underway within the civil society, the opposition, the political parties, to say, ‘Okay, what comes next? And how do we get from where we are to where we want to end up?'”
    Clinton added that forcing Mubarak to leave office quickly could complicate the already enormous challenges Egypt faces in transforming itself from autocracy to democracy. In fact, Clinton said, Mubarak’s departure could affect “significant actions” he has himself taken to get the reform process started.

    She said that Mubarak should be recognized for the steps he’s taken to retreat from leadership, even if they fall short of what angry protesters in the streets of Cairo are demanding. And she said Mubarak had gotten off to a good start by announcing he would not seek re-election in a scheduled September presidential vote, removing his son from the succession picture and naming a vice president who has now begun a dialogue with the opposition.

    State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley added to that on Monday, saying if Mubarak stepped down today, the constitution does have a system for holding elections, but “whether Egypt today is prepared to have a competitive open election given the recent past where quite honestly elections were free and fair … There’s a lot that has to be done.”
    Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, of which Wisner is a member, told Fox News that “more than not” the administration has gotten it right on diplomatic steps in Egypt, although early on too much emphasis was given on getting rid of Mubarak.

    “I think there’s real risk in terms of the message that sends. I think, though, in the last 48 hours, we’re seeing an interesting shift, first from Frank Wisner, who is the president’s envoy, and then from Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, speaking in Germany. They want to slow down the clock. And the reason is you got to buy time for the politics in Egypt to catch up because the only group right now that’s in a position to take advantage of the mayhem is the Muslim Brotherhood. So what you need to do is buy time to level the playing field,” he said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/07/administration-drop-kicks-ambassador-remarks-mubarak-echoes-sentiment/#ixzz1DJEPNoTk

  320. AJ was talking about how America is out for only it’s own good, oil and for Israel. About how the Administration was caught off guard, defending M, a dictator, Joe saying he wasn’t, Barry flip flopping (which he was), and Hillary slowly coming around.
    That American’s don’t care what any Arab leader does to it’s own people as long as it trades oil and doesn’t hurt Israel.

    I am at work and was not able to hear the whole thing…

    Later I did hear some from a panel that said the US news media is like dogs chasing their own tails, running in the same rut, supporting Presidents. (NYTS)

    Three people on the panel of 4 were Americans that were in gov. positions (at one time…), (I missed part of it again, so not sure who these guys were), and they were saying how Bush attacked Iraq with the HELP of the Egyptian military/gov. The guy was shocked.

    Not easy to listen with little earphones at work when someone comes in and needs my help. 😉

  321. I have to wait another 6.5 hours to hear this?
    Mrs. S. you are such a tease.
    —–

    I have a funny story about Hillary.

    I’ll tell what it is after Greta.

  322. Feb 7, 5:06 PM EST

    Jury convicts NY TV executive of beheading wife

    By CAROLYN THOMPSON
    Associated Press

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WIFE_BEHEADED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-02-07-17-06-05

    BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — The founder of a Muslim-oriented New York television station has been convicted of beheading his wife in 2009.

    Muzzammil “Mo” Hassan (moo-ZAHM’-mel Mo HAH’-sahn) never denied that he killed Aasiyah (AH’-see-ya) Hassan inside the suburban Buffalo station the couple established to promote cultural understanding.

    A jury on Monday rejected his claim he was the victim of spousal abuse.

    Hassan acted as his own lawyer during the trial in Buffalo.

    The Pakistan-born Hassan has been in custody since Feb. 12, 2009, when he walked into the Orchard Park police station and told officers his wife was dead. Her decapitated body was found at the studios of Bridges TV in town.

    The Hassans had two young children.
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    Obviously, Mrs Hassans didn’t understand FULLY her husband’s culture.

  323. more good cheer from the same people who mirror the Masons:

    Ben Franklin would be Proud-
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    Islamic Somali Militants Confiscate Christian Farms

    Washington — International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that members of Al-Shabaab, an Islamic Somali extremist group, confiscated farm lands owned by Somali Christians and Muslims who attended Bible studies in the cities of Afgoye and Baidawa.

    The Islamists have confiscated eight farms since January 19. A Somali church leader confirmed to ICC that five of the farms were owned by Somali Christian converts from Islam and three were owned by Muslims who attended Bible study groups to learn about Christianity. Most of the landowners fled their homes and remain in hiding. There are also unconfirmed reports of additional Christian farm seizures in Dinsor and Burhakaba districts.

    Al-Shabaab handed over the confiscated lands to businessmen who regularly donate to the group. The Islamic group has vowed to cleanse Somalia of any Christian influence. Since January 2009, Al-Shabaab has killed 23 Christians, most of whom were church leaders. Al-Shabaab has also desecrated three Christian cemeteries in Mogadishu and destroyed a Christian library in the Luuq district.

    The Somali church has demonstrated remarkable growth despite intense persecution from Muslim radicals.

    “Christians in Somalia have endured unspeakable persecution for choosing to leave Islam and follow Jesus Christ. Members of Al-Shabaab, like many Islamic radicals, don’t respect religious freedom. We urge Christians around the world to pray for Somali Christians to persevere, and for members of Al-Shabaab to repent of their wicked ways and embrace the love of Jesus Christ,” said ICC’s Regional Manager for Africa, Jonathan Racho.

    http://www.aina.org/news/20110203204132.htm

  324. Wow, Obama really messed this one up.

    The Democratic Leadership Council, the iconic centrist organization of the Clinton years, is out of money and could close its doors as soon as next week, a person familiar with the plans said Monday.

    The DLC, a network of Democratic elected officials and policy intellectuals had long been fading from its mid-’90s political relevance, tarred by the left as a symbol of “triangulation” at a moment when there’s little appetite for intra-party warfare on the center-right. The group tried — but has failed — to remake itself in the summer of 2009, when its founder, Al From, stepped down as president. Its new leader, former Clinton aide Bruce Reed, sought to remake the group as a think tank, and the DLC split from its associated think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute.

    But Reed left the DLC last year himself to serve as Vice President Joe Biden’s chief of staff, leaving Ed Gresser, a trade expert, to lead the group in the interim. Since then the board “hasn’t been able to find someone who wanted to come on in a permanent capacity,” a person familiar with the group’s woes said, with the central problem the difficulty of raising money for a Democratic group that isn’t seen as an ally of the White House.

    Gresser declined to comment on the DLC’s future, and referred a call to From, who didn’t immediately respond to a message left with an assistant.

    The DLC is already showing signs of disrepair.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/Democratic_Leadership_Council_will_fold.html

    ………………………………….

    Obama is dismantling this party right before our eyes.

  325. Ex-Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell and his wife, Judge Marjorie Rendell, announce separation via e-mail – NBC Philadelphia

  326. As if you could’nt mess it up even more…..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8309792/WikiLeaks-Israels-secret-hotline-to-the-man-tipped-to-replace-Mubarak.html

    The new vice-president of Egypt, Omar Suleiman, is a long-standing favourite of Israel’s who spoke daily to the Tel Aviv government via a secret “hotline” to Cairo, leaked documents disclose.

    Mr Suleiman, who is widely tipped to take over from Hosni Mubarak as president, was named as Israel’s preferred candidate for the job after discussions with American officials in 2008.

    As a key figure working for Middle East peace, he once suggested that Israeli troops would be “welcome” to invade Egypt to stop weapons being smuggled to Hamas terrorists in neighbouring Gaza.

    The details, which emerged in secret files obtained by WikiLeaks and passed to The Daily Telegraph, come after Mr Suleiman began talks with opposition groups on the future for Egypt’s government.

    On Saturday, Mr Suleiman won the backing of Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, to lead the “transition” to democracy after two weeks of demonstrations calling for President Mubarak to resign.

    David Cameron, the Prime Minister, spoke to Mr Suleiman yesterday and urged him to take “bold and credible steps” to show the world that Egypt is embarking on an “irreversible, urgent and real” transition.

    …………………………………………

    They are gonna just love that in Cairo. This will go down as well as a bag of sick.

  327. FCC: Presidential emergency alerts to be tested

    Everybody has heard the national Emergency Alert System (EAS). Those familiar “duck calls” that reassure listeners “THIS is a test…this is ONLY a test…”

    The FCC is planning an upgrade to the tests by including presidential announcements in the system.

    Lisa Fowlkes, deputy chief of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau of the FCC, explained to the Federal Drive the Presidential Alert isn’t new.

    “The primary goal is to provide the President with a mechanism to communicate with the American public during times of national emergency,” said Fowlkes. The change, she said, is that prior to last week’s order there was no rule in place to call for or allow a test from top to bottom.

    ——
    Oh great….ugh.

  328. Huffpuff and AOL

    Hehe, the bloggers over there are whining that all their fans are deleting their accounts and leaving the site.

    Tooo bad, sooo sad.

  329. moononpluto
    February 7th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Wow, Obama really messed this one up.

    The Democratic Leadership Council, the iconic centrist organization of the Clinton years, is out of money and could close its doors as soon as next week, a person familiar with the plans said Monday.

    “Obama is dismantling this party right before our eyes.”
    __________________________

    The DLC always has been the fall back position for the Clintons. Obama must feel like a “super” fire-thrower burning down any remaining remnants of the Clinton coalition.

    Just in case Hillary has any ideas. lol

  330. Ex-Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell and his wife, Judge Marjorie Rendell, announce separation via e-mail – NBC Philadelphia
    ————————–
    Not surprising. It is common knowledge in the upper echelons of the Pennsylvania bar that Ed had a difficult time keeping his zipper up.

  331. ” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Monday. “He was, based on his broad experience in Egypt, asked by the State Department … to travel to Cairo
    ————————-
    SHV: that confirms my assumption that Hillary was the one who asked Wiener to meet with Mubarak, knowing that he was his own man and would tell it how it is.

  332. Mrs. Smith
    February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
    Feb 7, 5:06 PM EST

    Jury convicts NY TV executive of beheading wife

    —————————
    And this barbarous act was allowed to take place in America?

    To take a human life like this just breaks my heart. I have never believed in the death penalty, but in this case I could make an exception.

  333. Everybody has heard the national Emergency Alert System (EAS). Those familiar “duck calls” that reassure listeners “THIS is a test…this is ONLY a test…”

    The FCC is planning an upgrade to the tests by including presidential announcements in the system.
    ****************************
    Does this strike anyone else as really creepy. The President will come over our tv’s and radios during an emergency giving us our orders for how we are to respond. This is too close to 1984 and Brave New World for my tastes. Is no one trying to block this.

  334. Shadowfax
    February 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Huffpuff and AOL

    Hehe, the bloggers over there are whining that all their fans are deleting their accounts and leaving the site.

    Tooo bad, sooo sad.
    ***************************
    Shadowfax,

    A question, please. Being that I don’t hang out at HuffPo or use AOL, who is deleting their accounts and do you know why? Many thanks.

  335. AH saing the sale will increase her site numbers from 26 million to well over 100 million so she can sell more advertising on her site (at least she’s honest). She said the larger size will make her site less liberal and cover a broader range of people/ideas. When asked if Obama’s visit to the COC today was a problem she said the WH is in reelection mode and not taking the jobs, etc. problems as seriously as she would like to see them.

  336. ani

    A question, please. Being that I don’t hang out at HuffPo or use AOL, who is deleting their accounts and do you know why? Many thanks.

    ———-
    I don’t hang out there either but I wanted to see how people that comment over there were dealing with the sale.
    Tons of them are commenting on how other people that comment there (like a blog) have deleted their account. If you read someone’s comment, you can reply or rate it as something like agree or disagree or something like that.
    I guess if someone is a regular and agrees with one poster a lot, they are somehow labeled a fan.

    Like I said, I don’t comment or blog over there, but this is what I have seen.

  337. Sahdowfax
    Is this possibly that the Huffers don’t want to be part of the masses of aol and fear a dilution of their ‘purity’ if they remain on a blog that is not pure Obama.

  338. Ariana is all about the money. She was a republican, then jumped on the progressive train because it was hip and popular, and now that the political winds are changing, she’ll try to tack to being a “centrist”.

    She doesn’t care. Her politics will change to whatever is popular and thus can make her a buck.

  339. #
    JanH
    February 7th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
    Feb 7, 5:06 PM EST

    Jury convicts NY TV executive of beheading wife

    —————————
    And this barbarous act was allowed to take place in America?

    To take a human life like this just breaks my heart. I have never believed in the death penalty, but in this case I could make an exception.
    ________________

    I wouldn’t use the term exactly saying, ‘it was allowed’- My reason for posting the article was to point to their initial mission drawing people in to what they believe. The premise for their show was educating people to their culture. The article doesn’t state the reason for the husband’s monstrous act. I take it, it could have been anything that displeased him or something more serious invoking a punishment prescribed by Sharia Law.

    To me this is a sub-culture of Islam in the US that seems to be within the normalcy of what we know as American/Muslim culture. But in the home behind closed doors- becomes a whole different animal unresponsive and disrespectful to our own Laws. This is what I see as problematic to the general integration of Muslims into a democratic society. They could have been born here, educated here and for reasons known only to themselves, Turn into the dangerous radicals making headlines as this man did, killing his wife in the specific way he chose to take her life.

  340. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe the word “allow” was the wrong one to use, but I just find it abhorent that such an action still happens in the world today.

    I pray to God that there were no children to witness this horror.

  341. “she said the WH is in reelection mode and not taking the jobs, etc. problems as seriously as she would like to see them.”

    ——————–

    Um…so what is her excuse for the rest of the time? bambi has been in reelection mode since day one.

  342. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe the word “allow” was the wrong one to use, but I just find it abhorent that such an action still happens in the world today.
    _____________________

    agreed- We are horrified whether it be a man OR a woman, but with radicals, it seems to be the norm. I also saw the discussion between Lieberman, McCain and Graham. They haven’t quite reached the root of the problem. They were mostly talking about Obama’s appeal last year for political correctness sensitive to Muslims (re: Fort Hood) that has been taken to the extreme lately and they want to feel free to call it what it is… Terrorism.

  343. Um…so what is her excuse for the rest of the time? bambi has been in reelection mode since day one.
    _________________

    It’s a given, isn’t it? The rest of Obama’s time is taken up with golf and hoops…

  344. Hillary looked very well in the interview with Greta. Did anyone notice the crawler headline during her interview, Mubarak has left for Germany to see his doctor? haha- he’s going to talk to Merkel. 😆

    ok- I’ll save the story with Hillary for tomorrow..

  345. Shadowfax
    February 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Huffpuff and AOL

    Hehe, the bloggers over there are whining that all their fans are deleting their accounts and leaving the site.

    Tooo bad, sooo sad.
    ***************************************

    shadowfax…thanks for giving me that idea…i had an account there leftover from the primaries but rarely post anything since they never post any comments that are critical of O, supportive of Hillary or Bill…and the majority of posters are clones of each other…most comments are nasty, angry, mean spirited immature and reactionary…and Clinton and Palin haters…

    good riddance…

  346. From Hillary’s interview which I recorded and struggled to watch last night. (party time the night before catching up with my closing eyes)

    Everything she said last night, reflected in today’s news. I think the danger of things getting out of hand is mostly over. Good news for Israel. (not mentioned in this article but read elsewhere.. MB’s backing off)

    Hillary’s analysis has materialized into a definitive plan:

    Egypt has power transfer plan, vice president says

    CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt has a plan and timetable for the peaceful transfer of power, the vice president said on Tuesday, as protesters called more demonstrations hoping to show their campaign to oust President Hosni Mubarak remains potent.

    With signs growing the government may be gaining the upper hand in the struggle for power, Vice President Omar Suleiman also promised no reprisals against the protesters for their two-week campaign to eject Mubarak after 30 years in office.

    “A clear road map has been put in place with a set timetable to realize the peaceful and organized transfer of power,” said Suleiman, Mubarak’s long-time intelligence chief who has led talks with opposition groups including the Muslim Brotherhood — Mubarak’s sworn enemy.

    So far the government has conceded little ground in the talks. The embattled 82-year-old president, who has promised to stand down when his term expires in September, appears to be weathering the storm engulfing Egypt, at least for the moment.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_egypt

  347. I wonder what would happen if Hillary convinced Obama he doesn’t need Soros or ZBig to be the President? At least not any more. Obama’s strong suit is throwing people under the bus… so there shouldn’t be any second thoughts about conscience. He’s done about as much damage to the country and people that Soros requested, so what is preventing him from being a real president that can do something FOR his country?

    Could be the BOR comment telling Obama everyone HATES you… may have pierced his block head like a thunderbolt, bruising his super-ego, lighting a fire under his useless butt and maybe, just maybe, he is going to do a 180 and do something worthwhile for a change.

  348. Mrs. Smith
    February 8th, 2011 at 8:35 am
    Where did this come from? Any examples?

    Maybe Hillary and Bill are trying to woo Obama away from his Svengalis and that is why they spend so much time with him, even though that drives us nuts to watch. They are up close and can see where his is vulnerable to influence and direction. Could explain why they continue to hang in there, but it’s frustrating to us.

  349. From the Washington Post article above:
    The meetings Mr. Suleiman has conducted so far have excluded many of the most important opposition leaders. Instead the general has talked mostly with marginal, officially approved parties and the Muslim Brotherhood.
    ********************
    So who are the most important opposition leaders? I haven’t heard who these might be. WaPo doesn’t say either.

  350. Mrs. Smith
    February 8th, 2011 at 8:35 am
    Where did this come from? Any examples?

    Maybe Hillary and Bill are trying to woo Obama away from his Svengalis and that is why they spend so much time with him, even though that drives us nuts to watch. They are up close and can see where his is vulnerable to influence and direction. Could explain why they continue to hang in there, but it’s frustrating to us.
    ______________________

    Maybe, they told him the Truth. If he follows Soros, he sticking his head in a noose and asked him if he really wants to do this?

    If the Treaty with Israel is broken, War breaking out and the ME blows up because of a MB takeover; does he really want to be found guilty of being part of a conspiracy w/Soros and ZBig of committing WAR CRIMES?

    Look at GWB… they’re out to hang him out to dry for Crimes Against Humanity (Geneva Convention) Torturing captives in Guantanamo with waterboarding. Bush was warned last week if he travels to Switzerland, he could be put under arrest and held for questioning.

  351. Mrs. Smith
    February 8th, 2011 at 8:35 am
    I wonder what would happen if Hillary convinced Obama he doesn’t need Soros or ZBig to be the President?

    ————
    He probably sold his soul to them.

  352. JanH
    February 8th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Mrs. Smith
    February 8th, 2011 at 8:35 am
    I wonder what would happen if Hillary convinced Obama he doesn’t need Soros or ZBig to be the President?

    ————
    He probably sold his soul to them.
    ____________________

    Well, we know for sure, he likes being a puppet. Too lazy to do the hard work of thinking for himself and planning concepts burning the midnight oil until he falls asleep in a chair. Lawyers are like that.. Not all of them but more than not..So few of them are really willing to give you an honest days work and do the research, ask the right questions etc. and win your case for you.

    Easier to cut a deal with the opposition lawyer and depending on the deal, a trade is done… with client referrals, bilking a client with a fortune to spend… until one or the other client’s goes broke, no one is the wiser…it happens all the time.

    If he becomes Bill and Hillary’s puppet, I’d be thrilled.

  353. If he becomes Bill and Hillary’s puppet, I’d be thrilled.

    Me too. But there is also the possibility that he is using Bill& Hill to do the heavy lifting by keeping important things like Social Security etc hostage. Emotional blackmail, so to speak. “Go make me look good or the people get hurt.” (Although if he is doing that it will backfire eventually. Bill&Hill didn’t just fall off a turnip truck yesterday.)

  354. Ok- here’s the true story. Last night, I didn’t realize Greta came on so late, @ 10pm otherwise I would have posted it right along…
    __________________

    I don’t know about you guys, but usually, I never remember my dreams- but this one was special and I took notes when I woke up- 🙂

    Special, because everyone from Big Pink was there. In dreams anything is possible… there weren’t any faces just bodies and voices. (just like on the blog…) Anyway– we were all excited because we had been specially invited to an event where Hillary was to receive an Achievement Award. Hillary invited us because she knew we were her most loyal supporters and she wanted us to meet at this event and meet her.

    When we arrived, we were told to wait in the lobby. As we began assembling in the lobby, an aide from her office met us and said to follow him… Of course,we couldn’t stop giggling and laughing to ourselves from all the excitement of finally meeting each other face to face for the first time and then receiving a special invitation from Hillary herself, we were all practically verklempt…. Confloyd led the way. The venue was very dark inside. I thought I saw Con grab the coat-tail of Hillary’s aide as he was leading the way down the aisle. (he didn’t seem to mind) and we followed behind in sort of a disjointed Conga Line… until we arrived at the very first row… The audience was already seated and the first row was designated reserved with a Pink Ribbon stretched clear across the seats from aisle to aisle… We seated ourselves waiting with great anticipation.

    Speaker after speaker went back and forth to the podium until finally we heard: and this presentation for service above and beyond the call of duty is in recognition of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s outstanding performance as the Best SOS the United States has had the good fortune to have during these perilous times. ( we knew he was talking about the Middle East/Egypt/Israel but didn’t actually mention it.) Hillary accepted the award with a brief speech thanking those giving her the award and promptly walked off stage.

    Next thing we knew, her aide was back.. leading us out the back door exit to a waiting car…. And guess who was waiting for us in the car… yes, it was Hillary… all of us piled into the front seat while Hillary sat alone, well almost alone…. (her itinerary person was sitting next to her with her appointment book on her lap)
    (I know it’s impossible to have more than 3 people in the front seat… but remember in dreams anything is possible…) We all turned around facing Hillary seeing her up close for the very first time… When the introductions were over, we were struck by the fabulous Tan she had… her blue eyes shined like sapphires against her stunningly golden tanned and rested face. Her hair held back with a “headband” (oops, a bad hair day) no matter, she was more beautiful in person, than the photographs we were used to seeing on the internet…

    Without a word being said, I started blushing in embarrassment remembering the headband comment on the blog the week before and my addition of having said: “a fabulous tan is all you need on a bad hair day.”…

    Oh, NO- here it comes… she was going to tell us to mind our own business.. blah..blah…blah.

    Instead, she invited us to her hotel room to help her pick out a gown for a function she was attending the following night…. There were a selection of at least a dozen gowns all luscious fabrics of every conceivable color hanging in the walk-in closet. From beautiful deep Emerald Green, Azure and Electric blue, light Navy, Shocking Pink, skin-toned Beige, jeweled Winter White and basic Black…. Someone ordered champagne sent to the room and it ended up a girlie girls night out fussing over Hillary, dressing her for her next event.

  355. This will pack them in the aisles….not.

    (CNN) – Keith Olbermann will be hosting a primetime show on Current TV – the network backed in part by Al Gore, the former MSNBC host announced Tuesday.

    Olbermann abruptly departed MSNBC two weeks ago. He will begin his show “later in 2011,” according to a statement from Current TV.

    Full statement:

    NEW YORK – February 8, 2011 – Keith Olbermann, the acclaimed broadcaster and writer whose verbal pyrotechnics and moral passion have outraged, informed, and dazzled viewers of “Countdown With Keith Olbermann” for the past eight years, is bringing his slashing wit, analytical eye, and distinctive commentary to Current Media, the Emmy® and Peabody Award-winning TV and digital media company that was founded in 2005 by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt and is now distributed in more than 75 million households around the world.

  356. Gee….the priorities…..

    Obama to call for $53B for high-speed rail

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is calling for a six-year, $53 billion investment in high-speed rail as he seeks to use infrastructure spending to create jobs.

    The White House says Obama will call for an initial $8 billion investment in the budget he is set to release next week…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41474264/ns/politics-white_house/

  357. All change.

    Sean McManus out as preisdent of CBS News; returns to CBS Sports; Jeff Fager to become chairman; David Rhodes to become new president.

  358. Just wanted to check in…I’ll try and catch up later as I am in Sugarland at my friends house. It’s a beautiful house…but a long ways from deep East Texas…LOL! It is actually in civilization!

    I did not get to watch the CIC on Billo….I wondered what happened…guess I need to read upthread!

    What is all this about Obama finally listening to Hillary, is that a joke or what?

  359. #
    JanH
    February 8th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    lol…Mrs. Smith. What a wonderful dream. 🙂
    __________________

    After all this time, It was a first dreaming about Hillary.. and Big Pink..and why I wanted to tell it! 🙂

  360. Blue Dogs praise Bill Clinton after meeting

    By SIMMI AUJLA | 2/7/11

    Blue Dog Democrats in the House took pointers on bipartisanship from master centrist President Bill Clinton at a meeting in New York on Monday.

    The 26-member caucus, which saw its ranks cut nearly in half after the November election, listened closely to Clinton in an hour-and-a-half meeting with the former president.

    Lawmakers at the meeting said that Clinton’s talk covered tensions in Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries, domestic energy and housing policy, welfare reform, the national debt and efficiency in federal government.

    Members of Congress who spoke with reporters after the meeting were ready with high praise for Clinton, who himself navigated tricky waters when Republicans took control of the House of Representatives in 1994.

    “We wanted to talk about ways to bridge the partisan divide,” Utah Democrat Jim Matheson said. “We wanted to meet with folks who could give us ideas about how to grow our economy.”

    Arkansas Democratic Rep. Mike Ross praised Clinton for his record on the national debt.

    “He recognizes that the debt’s out of control and we’ve got to find ways to work together to address it” he said.

    Earlier in the day, vocal Blue Dog and North Carolina Democrat Heath Shuler, who challenged Pelosi in her bid for minority leader last year, said the California Democrat hasn’t made an effort to create a relationship with him and other moderate Democrats.

    “There has really been no communication whatsoever,” he said on MSNBC.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49017.html

  361. confloyd, it must have been because you showed me your pic on Facebook. Otherwise, I have no other explanation…

  362. What is all this about Obama finally listening to Hillary, is that a joke or what?
    ________________

    Too soon to tell.. so far just a hypothesis…

  363. CNN POLL: 51% SEE NO SECOND TERM FOR OBAMA…

    http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/02/americans-think.php

    Americans Think Obama Would Lose In 2012

    More than half of registered voters believe President Obama will lose a bid for a second term, even as more Americans say they approve of his job performance than at any time in more than a year.

    A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, released Tuesday, shows 51 percent of registered voters, and the same percentage of adult Americans, believe Obama will lose if he runs for re-election. 46 percent say he would win.

    And more voters say, at the moment, they will vote against Obama. Fully 51 percent say they definitely or probably will not vote for Obama, while 47 percent say they’re predisposed to vote for him. Independent voters would vote against Obama by a 44 percent to 53 percent margin, while he would win moderates by a much larger 55 percent to 45 percent margin.

  364. Mrs. S.
    What a cute dream, and meeting each other is just what it was like when I met PUMAs in Denver.

    I must not have been your dream because I would have crawled over the seat to touch Hillary.

    I am one of people that HAVE TO touch something to believe it, at least things that are very important to me. I can’t tell you how many times in Europe I had guards chasing me because I touched the toe of the David, and paintings that I love. I a very careful, a very clean finger and ever so lightly…but I need to make the physical connection.

    I am an artist so that’s one of my crazy art things…

    😉 So, sue me. It was sooooo worth it.

  365. moononpluto
    February 8th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Its getting bigger.

    UPDATE: Egypt sees largest demos since start of revolt…

    ———–
    Thanks for the heads-up Moon. Watching AJ again.

    What real pride Egypt must feel, and a boost for all the young people that didn’t give up.
    Looks like they gave courage to the older generation that seem to be coming out of hiding and joining the protest.

    As long as they want a free democracy, power to them.
    Hopefully they are not going to let any tyrant run their country.

  366. Mrs. Smith
    I think we all have some version of your dream in our waking life, but your’s was so vivid and detailed. Thanks for including all of us in your wonderful dream.

  367. Not sure if this was reported on the blog, but on Greta there is something going on behind the scenes…possibly a place for Moobarack to get out of Egypt and live in exile in Germany. Wonder if that is part of the reason Hillary was in Germany?

  368. “CNN POLL: 51% SEE NO SECOND TERM FOR OBAMA…”

    —————–
    Considering that this came from CNN, I would say this is pretty big.

  369. Shadowfax
    February 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    Not sure if this was reported on the blog, but on Greta there is something going on behind the scenes…possibly a place for Moobarack to get out of Egypt and live in exile in Germany. Wonder if that is part of the reason Hillary was in Germany?
    **********************
    Good catch. I never put 2 and 2 together even after seeing the photos of HRC and Merkel, and then hearing that Mubarak went to Germany for medical treatments. Of course HRC set that up.

  370. Mrs.Smith,
    I was just out shopping with my friend and I tripped over a curb at Bed, Bath and Beyond…I couldn’t help but remember as I was going down like a “bowling pin”, your shoulder. I hit my left wrist and rt. orbit and I have two cuts over my eyebrow.
    Just my luck…loose all this weight…start looking like a woman again and fall down and screw up my face…LOL!

    Naw, I’m OK…I’m going to be very sore….thankgoodness my knees held up and did not break…I landed on hard concrete!

  371. Is she kidding? I smell Bullcrap.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, says the intelligence community never warned Congress or President Barack Obama that a potential revolution was brewing in Egypt — partly because it wasn’t reading Facebook and Twitter.

    The performance of the intelligence agencies has been debated since Thursday, when Stephanie O’Sullivan, the Obama administration’s nominee for principal deputy director of national intelligence, told the committee that they warned the administration of instability in Egypt at the end of last year.

    Several senators on the committee challenged O’Sullivan at the hearing, and in an interview today on MSNBC TV, Feinstein indicated that it wasn’t true.

    “There was a good deal of intelligence about Tunisia [but] virtually nothing about Egypt,” Feinstein told NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell. “So there was, to my knowledge, no real warning, either to the White House or, certainly, to the Senate Intelligence Committee or the Congress.”

  372. confloyd,

    Take care of yourself. I slipped on the ice a few weeks ago, hit my head and was bruised lower back and side.

    lol…not fun.

  373. confloyd
    February 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Ouch! A fall happening so fast you can’t defer the impact is brutal, confloyd. I hope you didn’t break anything…

    I hope you haven’t had any residual effect from your fall, Jan- Sometimes symptoms don’t show up for several weeks. Take care!

  374. So why didn’t they have their puppets ready before instigating this one?
    ————————————————————————
    You can be certain that the puppets have been selected.

    ===================

    So what are they waiting for?

  375. JanH and Mrs. Smith,
    Sure glad I’ve got good bones with all the spills I’ve been taking in the last few months..LOL!
    My neck is hurting….I snapped it pretty good when I was falling, but I’ll be fine…you know I used to ride horses and get thrown regularly and NEVER remember it hurting….LOL!

    Mo is now saying that Bo has quit smoking??? Yeah right! LOL!
    Why are they not telling us on US news that Mubarek has left for Germany?

  376. there is something going on behind the scenes…possibly a place for Moobarack to get out of Egypt and live in exile in Germany.

    ====================

    Oh, I pray so! Or live with Marco in Hawaii. 😉 In the Old Dictators’ Home.

    Hm, Arianna Huffington sells out to AOL, Mub sells out to Germany. 😉

  377. “Mo is now saying that Bo has quit smoking??? Yeah right! LOL!”
    __________________

    She omitted, “again”! 🙄
    ____________________________

    “Why are they not telling us on US news that Mubarek has left for Germany?”
    ______________________

    US news exists only to ‘confuse’.

  378. AJ is the only one telling the truth about what is going on in Egypt, I wonder whats up with that??

    We THINK we are free and have unfiltered news….only way is on the internet, yet regular folks don’t believe anything on the internet.

  379. confloyd
    February 8th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    AJ is the only one telling the truth about what is going on in Egypt, I wonder whats up with that??
    ___________________

    Tarpley says, AJ is a UK product.

  380. Tarpley says, AJ is a UK product.
    _________________

    To clarify… he said, they filter their propaganda through AJ…

  381. Someone has been fibbing to us all……

    Wikileak reports Saudi Arabia Oil Reserves may be as much as 40% less than reported.

  382. jbstonesfan,

    Have you heard about this?

    ——————

    Digging on Temple Mount ‘to Erase Traces of Jewish Altar’

    by Gil Ronen

    Muslim religious authorities are concluding a clandestine eight-month dig on the Temple Mount that is intended to erase traces of the Jewish Temple’s Altar, Temple activists charge.

    The digs have been taking place under the Dome of the Chain, believed to have been built over 1300 years ago. For eight months, the dome – which has a diameter of 14 meters – has been surrounded by a metal fence and black cloth, which hide whatever activity has been going on there from outside inspection. The Muslim Waqf religious authority has claimed the activity is simply a refurbishing of the structure, but refuses adamantly to let Jews or tourists near.

    Jewish activists made various attempts to enter the Dome, but met with no success. In the end, the Our Temple Mount news outlet found an Arab who was willing to take photos inside the compound in return for a handsome fee (see below). The man said that it appears the Waqf has already completed its digs and is now covering the dig with dirt.

    Our Temple Mount notes that according to Jewish tradition, the place where the Dome of the Chain is located is the spot upon which the sacrificial Altar stood in Temple times. Temple activists said that the Muslim digs are intended to erase the Jewish connection to the Temple Mount.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142187

  383. Sometimes when we need to hear more from Admin, we cry out and BOINK, there she/he is.

    Let me try it………

    Here in the SamHill is our Admin?

    It’s been a heck of a long thread since our Admin last appeared.

    We hope all is well with you.

  384. Confloyd and JanH we need to get you out of those stilettos and put you in some comfortable shoes so you don’t play bowling for health care, with your bodies.

  385. Thank you JanH as I had not been aware of this . This , in a nutshell, represents why peace is not possible. It is not about land, but about an hatred towards Jews and our histroy, both of which they seek to wipe out.

  386. jbstonesfan,

    I agree. Here we are expected to protect muslim sites in Israel and they do this. They deliberately built the dome of the rock on a former Jewish holy site.

    It is not in me to hate anyone, but I could sure come close with actions like these.

  387. Shariah and democracy are incompatible

    Egyptian army remains the West’s best hope

    Monday, February 7, 2011

    Last Sunday, as the media were reporting that the Muslim Brotherhood was sitting down with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman, the BBC reported in an unrelated story that British Prime Minister David Cameron had announced that “state multiculturalism has failed”:

    “David Cameron has criticized ‘state multiculturalism’ in his first speech as prime minister on radicalization and the causes of terrorism.

    “At a security conference in Munich, he argued the U.K. needed a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to all kinds of extremism. He also signaled a tougher stance on groups promoting Islamist extremism. … As Mr. Cameron outlined his vision, he suggested there would be greater scrutiny of some Muslim groups which get public money but do little to tackle extremism.

    ” ‘Ministers should refuse to share platforms or engage with such groups, which should be denied access to public funds and barred from spreading their message in universities and prisons,’ he argued. ‘Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism,’ the prime minister said.”

    For those of us who have been calling for years for the United Kingdom and Europe to become “intolerant” of the radical Islamist threat to our culture, this is a thrilling and gratifying moment. (See my book “The West’s Last Chance,” Regnery Publishing, 2005, particularly Chapter 7.)

    It is the obligation of both citizen and statesman to avoid both illusion and self-delusion when considering national threats. And so it is ironic that on the same weekend that the British government finally removes the scales from its eyes and looks straight-on at the mortal threat that aggressively asserted Islamist values pose to our civilization, in Egypt – at the constant hectoring of Washington voices – the remnants of the Mubarak government begins its halting, perhaps inevitable march toward the illusion of Egyptian democracy.

    Regarding Egyptian democracy, I agree with the tone of Mohandas Gandhi’s answer while in London in 1931 to the question of what he thought of Western civilization: “I think it would be a very good idea.” I, too, hope for – but doubt – the plausibility of Arab Islamic democracy.

    The sad, failed history of reform in the direction of Western democratic values by Arab – and particularly Egyptian – culture and governance is superbly presented in Lee Smith’s 2010 book “The Strong Horse: Power, Politics and the Clash of Arab Civilization” (Anchor Books).

    As Mr. Smith points out regarding the hopeless Western search for “moderate” Muslims, “It is only Western intellectuals who distinguish between moderates and fundamentalists; people of faith distinguish between believers and non believers.”

    (See also “The West’s Last Chance,” particularly Chapter 3). Edward N. Luttwak confirms that observation, saying, “Mainstream Islam, not just Islamism, rejects the legitimacy of democratic legislation that could contradict Shariah law.”

    In fact, the history of Islamic reform has been the search for and effort to return to a literal interpretation of the text of the inerrant (in the faithful Muslim’s view) Koran. It is a search to purge the corruptions of man from society. It is the effort to be ruled by God, whereas democracy is the effort to be ruled by men.

    Whether the Muslim Brotherhood currently and sincerely believes in violence or not is far less important than its urge and that of most other Islamic peoples in Islamic lands to live under Shariah law.

    In February 1979, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini gave the most honest description of government by Shariah: “This is not an ordinary government. It is government based on the Shariah. Opposing this government means opposing the Shariah of Islam. … Revolt against God’s government is a revolt against God. Revolt against God is blasphemy.” In other words, under Shariah government, dissent is punishable by death.

    Be under no illusion: If the Egyptian government in the future is shaped by the obvious Egyptian majority opinion – whether the path is slow and peaceful or fast and violent, led or not led by the Muslim Brotherhood – the result will not be Western-oriented democracy.

    Regarding the “illusion of stability,” as the successful American policy of the past 30 years has been described sneeringly by those waiting expectantly for democracy: It was no illusion. For 30 years it was a reality, and the reality was good for us and the world. One can’t expect much more value from a foreign policy.

    If we can perpetuate anything like it for another month, year, decade or generation, we and the world will be better off. The only possible path to more stability is to encourage the Egyptian army – the nation’s only trusted national institution and one with which we have the closest working relations – to maintain its guidance on whatever government it can cause to come into being.

    This would be both good policy and good politics. According to a new Rasmussen poll, 60 percent of American voters think it is more important for the United States to be allies with any country that best protects our national security rather than only to ally with freely elected governments.

    There is a lot of dreamy nonsense trying to pass for foreign policy at the moment. The bill for such illusions will come due – probably sooner rather than later. As Jean-Paul Sartre reminded us, we all have an obligation not to act in bad faith by deceiving ourselves – however lamentable the truth may be.

    Tony Blankley is the author

  388. This points toward the problem around which the other happenings revolve.

    … the demise of the dollar is the demise of much more. Greenspan gave away more than anyone knows. [Not true of everyone. Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission’s (FCIC) final report is telling We won’t hear the Otrauma administration admit anything though.] My emphasis in bold below. below.

    Inflation Inflation Everywhere and Not a Drop to Drink

    At last, the doubters have nowhere to hide. The world is starkly revealed as an interconnected political economy force, and not as a disparate grouping of various nations, some authoritarian, some choosing democratically agreed upon policies, creating policy choice and thereby shaping of political outcome. Greece, Ireland, Tunisia, and now, the fulcrum of the Arab world, Egypt, stand as testimony. They are countries caught up in the machinations of a monetary policy to debase the world’s reserve currency.

    All “he” wanted was some inflation, a little inflation to get America and the west out of the deflationary spiral caused by the failure of financial instruments (a.k.a. OTC Derivatives) and un-payable government debt – but he can’t get it. Everywhere it rages, but the place he wants it – home. So it erupts in global food prices and manifests itself in the attempts to bail out stone dead banks on the backs of the marginal economic player – post-destruction of the middle class.

    Most of the world has no savings to get through difficult times. Most of the world cannot “hedge” inflationary outcomes. Those outcomes appear quickly and change realities violently. The inflationary reality is their reality – the difference between starvation and survival. The result? Global upheaval, leading to where, we are not sure… but probably nowhere nice.

    Think American monetary policy was a uniquely sovereign, American affair? Think again. You are watching QE II live on television. American monetary policy and the global “race to debase” is that raging crowd you see on the television from Ireland to Greece and Egypt. It is that nascent force which Chinese leaders awake in terror, wondering what a billion plus people might do if faced with stark choices. If you can’t make the connection between the monetary policy and the political reality, you need to change the causal way you look at the world.

    Nations hold dollars in reserve to meet the demands of running an economy. When debasement takes place, the marginal economic player gets hit first. This is what we see now.

    But there is another, geo-political aspect many are missing. The western attempts to control multiple political outcomes and a global geo-political/military order rests on the ability to finance and control that order. When the money gets degraded, the ability to finance that order goes with it.

    […] Instability rages across a region that could usher in an era of global conflict.

    People say, “be careful what you wish for” when you talk about the end of western hegemony, but while the political hegemony is dying by the hour, the monetary hegemony is currently intact and its results are evident. When those results swing full circle and return to the west, currency upheaval will be guaranteed.

    Global system breakdown, which made its debut in 2008 is now back for its main act. Money printing didn’t quite work out the way it was supposed to. This time, a rush to the security of Treasury instruments is unlikely to be the fallback position for global capital that now sees Fed monetary policy as a destructive boomerang cutting inflationary swathes across the planet… en route to its place of origin.

    http://jsmineset.com/2011/01/30/jims-mailbox-634/

    There is an available remedy, and some are working their asses off trying to make it happen. Most of us are caught in mysterious webs that render us politically impotent.

    (I haven’t posted for some days because of a family emergency.)

  389. Obama White House Icy Silence on FCIC Report

    Wall Street’s effort to bury the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission’s (FCIC) final report has not stopped its [distribution]. [Report free – http://www.fcic.gov/ ]

    Commission chair Phil Angelides is doing his part in putting the report before the American people, this time penning an op-ed for the Sunday (Feb. 6) Sacramento Bee. Reform of our financial system is not assured by the Dodd-Frank law, Angelides wrote, arguing:

    “Every American should have a say in the future of that system…. I hope you will take a look at our report and the evidence we gathered by visiting http://www.fcic.gov, and make your own assessments about how we got into this mess…. What can you do? As our elected representatives and regulators weigh the implementation of the financial reforms already enacted, it is up to all of us to let them know we are vigilant and wiser. Knowing the facts of this crisis is a place to begin…. The greatest tragedy would be to accept the notion that no one could have seen this crisis coming, and thus nothing could have been done. If we accept this notion, it will happen again. Now it falls to all of us to make different choices if we want different results.”

    The report was also promoted by Los Angeles Times columnist Michael Hiltzik in his Sunday column on the FCIC’s “Damning Post-Mortem of the Financial Meltdown.” In an earlier blog entry, Hiltzik wrote that “the commissioners deserve to take their place right next to Ferdinand Pecora.” And Pecora’s investigation was anything but nonpartisan, Hiltzik noted.

    The pro-Obama self-described progressives at the Campaign for America’s Future complained about the White House’s icy silence on the Angelides Commission. Wrote the CAF’s Sam Pizzigati on Feb. 5: “Blue-ribbon reports, to make an impact, need political patrons, elected leaders who’ll talk the report content up, in news conferences and speeches, and demand immediate action to correct the ills that report content identifies. The Pecora Commission report had plenty of those patrons, including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission has had virtually none. The White House has done next to nothing to give the report legs, and neither have many Democratic lawmakers.”

    http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17433

  390. “In other words, under Shariah government, dissent is punishable by death.”

    ————–
    Mrs. Smith,

    Tony Blankley speaks the truth.

  391. #
    JanH
    February 8th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    “In other words, under Shariah government, dissent is punishable by death.”

    ————–
    Mrs. Smith,

    Tony Blankley speaks the truth.
    ______________________

    I agree. This is something that has to be addressed by our government, if we are to maintain the Founders vision and our own.

  392. Forget the Angelides report, the bailout is the solution.

    Paul Sperry, who made his name as a small-time harasser of President Clinton when he was Washington Bureau Chief of Investor’s Business Daily, directs citizens away from legitimate anger against the scum financiers who raked in “bailout” money, while millions of Americans lost their homes, jobs and futures.

    Sperry, is now the Hoover Institute “media fellow.” His present task is to deflect recognition of the truth by making people think it’s a Republican vs. Democrat thing. Attacks Como, former Housing Secretary… total bullshit. His book just came out, as the FCIC report was released, just in time to provide cover for the dispicable scum who are destroying what we hold dear.

    A more blatant defense of the bailouts comes from the City of London mouthpiece, “The Economist,” which attacks the Angelides report in a February 3 editorial.

    The “bailouts” are killing us all. How about we get ourselves together and kill the financier institutions and their gambling debts. Glass-Steagall will do that. Then federal credit will help us rebuild and develop our nation and others for our posterity. That was FDR’s plan; he died too early.

    — above from larouchepac.com/node/17441

    People must learn how long this crap has been going on. Years ago, I was shocked to listen to this interview which reveals an aspect of the takeover of our institutions and our minds. You should take the time to listen (watch) too.

    Rare year 1982 video with G. Edward Griffin & Norman Dodds#1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8cC21jB9EE

    Foundations and their influence in education… Mr Dodds was right there. This is not second-hand stuff. Even when you know much about what’s happening, this is a jaw-dropper.

  393. By the way, since there has been some mention of HuffPo lately, and we watch how the popular media is used…

    Out of the blue, well-known “leftist” economist Dean Baker, a columnist for Huffington Post and Britain’s Guardian, has written a wandering, lengthy, vehement attack on the Angelides Commission Report in the Monday Boston Review. This is not a matter of obscure controversies among academics: Angelides’ report of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission represents the first official U.S. government report on the causes of the financial crisis. And, because it implicitly endorses the forecasts and proposals of economist Lyndon LaRouche, it also represents what may well be the last chance for the U.S. to reverse the current collapse into a new dark age, by reinstating Franklin Roosevelt’s Glass-Steagall protections of 1933.

    Dean Baker’s line of harsh attack against Angelides, hard as it may be to believe, is that the U.S. economy suffers, not from a total systemic breakdown in process, but simply from a “recession” induced by the blowup of a “housing bubble.” Nowhere does he even hint at the incipient hyperinflationary blowout precipitated by the roughly $20 trillions of phony dollars pumped into financial institutions by the “bailout.” Rather, the problem is nothing but a deficiency of demand created by a failed housing market, for which, says Baker, “the solution is simple: the government should spend lots of money.”

    Baker even writes that it makes no difference whether we buy our clothes from foreign manufacturers, or make them here in the U.S. Since when did he believe that? Baker not only repudiated the Angelides Report and sanity today,— he also repudiated himself.

    Clearly, someone has gotten to Baker. This is not the first time. Dean Baker’s readers of today know that he considers the Paulson-Bernanke-Obama bailout to be a massive theft, which it is. But how many know that he supported that bailout, as the saying goes, before he opposed it? Read his Sept. 20, 2008 article in “Talking Points Memo” entitled, “Progressive Conditions for a Bailout,” where he wrote, “there is an urgency to put a bailout program in place.” Or listen to his Oct. 8, 2008 presentation to the New America Foundation’s forum, “Economic and Budgetary Consequences of the Financial Bailout,” where he repeated the same thing.

    John Carney, senior editor of CNBC, which represents the speculators, is circulating Baker’s latest piece as a “must-read response” to Angelides’ FCIC report.

    from larouchepac.com/node/17435

  394. LaRouchePAC representative, Harley Schlanger, spoke to a source on Monday (7 Feb.), who was once highly-connected in neo-con circles. He had read the Conclusion and other sections of the FCIC report, on Harley’s recommendation, and called to say that he found there is a network of neo-con operatives [this in addition to ops from the liberal side as well] working to smear Angelides, and the Report.

    http://www.fcic.gov/

    One key operative is Paul Sperry, who has an article in the New York Post, attacking Angelides as having a “conflict of interest,” due to MBS he bought for the state of California, when he was State Treasurer. (It should be noted that these “investments” were being pushed in the middle of the last decade by all the investment firms, and many state and local governments invested in funds which included MBS as a major component.) Sperry also names FCIC staff director, Chris Seefer, as having a conflict of interest, due to his involvement in a suit against Goldman Sachs.

    The source spoke to one of his friends, who is with the Federalist Society, who said that Sperry made his name in neo-con circles, as a hit man against Bill Clinton in 1999, when Sperry was Washington bureau chief for the Investors Business Daily, and routinely harassed Clinton. Sperry later went to the Hoover Institution, home of fascist George Shultz, where he heads the “Media sector” of Hoover, as a Fellow. His friend told him that Goldman Sachs has a “propaganda front” going against the FCIC report.

    Also involved in the anti-Angelides work is a team at the Cato Institute, which is emphasizing debt and entitlements as the real problem, not deregulation. Cato put out a report last week saying that there are at least $115 trillion in current liabilities in Social Security and Medicare, and this is the real problem with the economy. This figure has been repeated on right-wing talk radio, so it must be making the rounds.

    On Douglas Holtz-Eakin, one of the “dissenters” on the FCIC, the source said that he worked very closely with Pete Peterson, the behind-the-scenes author of the Catfood Commission, and once served as a top official of the Pete Peterson Foundation. Peterson is the billionaire who has been calling for massive cutbacks in government spending, and privatization of Social Security and ending Medicare. Peterson also backs euthanasia. Holtz-Eakin is reported to be very active now in activity to sabotage the FCIC report.

    Also, Harley opened a flank with some Tea Party networks today, briefing them on who opposes the FCIC report: Republicans, who are shills for Wall Street, and the Obama team. One immediately said that Dick Armey is bad-mouthing Angelides; the other will put Harley on one of the “Tea Party radio” programs this week, to get out the significance of the FCIC report, and the corruption of those Repubs and Dems who are opposing its findings, on behalf of the very Wall Street and City of London swindlers that the Tea Party was created to combat. In the field, we [LPAC] are making the point to Tea Party types that the only way to stop the bailouts is with Glass-Steagall, and the opponents of Angelides are the ones who have sabotaged Glass-Steagall.

    larouchepac.com/node/17434

  395. Issa is a virtual traitor to his country.
    Anyone looking from help or relief for our country from him is gravely mistaken.

    Congressional Battle Coming Up Over Angelides Report

    Three Republican House committee chairmen have launched an attack on the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC), or Angelides Commission, whose new report just showed how right economist Lyndon LaRouche was, in insisting that the 2007-08 financial/economic collapse was foreseeable and preventable, and publicizing the measures to prevent it.

    The FCIC’s full budget and spending records, staff records, and over 400,000 internal emails have been demanded, with a subpoena threat, by Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Government Oversight and Reform Committee; Financial Services Committee chairman Rep. Spencer Bachus; and Banking subcommittee chairman Patrick McHenry. In a letter of demand to FCIC chairman Philip Angelides, the GOP three essentially charged that it was the Commission’s fault that four of its Republican members had to write “dissents,” defending Wall Street and specifically denying that the repeal of FDR’s Glass-Steagall Act led to the 2007-08 crash.

    The Republican Congressional attack is sure to draw more attention to the crucial FCIC report, between now and when Angelides testifies on it to Baucus’ committee on Feb. 16. Several blistering attacks on the “dissenting” Republican-appointed commissioners were published yesterday, including one by Rep. Brad Miller (NC), a leading Democrat on that committee. Former Federal bank regulator Prof. William Black, in a contribution to “Mortgage Investor” newsletter, exposed the leading “dissident” commissioner, Peter Wallison of the American Enterprise Institute, as having severe conflicts of interest as Pres. Ronald Reagan’s leading deregulator of banking, and subsequently as a Wall Street banker himself. And a long commentary in “Smart Investor” by Sara Nunelly, co-author of a book on the crash, emphasizes that the key issue involved in the fight is the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1998, “with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999. Many folks believe this repeal was responsible for the buildup of risky assets and investments and contributed heavily to the global financial crisis.” The Angelides Commission report makes that clear.

    Responding in writing to Issa et al., Angelides said that the FCIC is scheduled to finish all work on Feb. 13 and that its remaining staff are working to gather the committee’s historical records for the National Archives. He said it does not have the staff or the funds to comply with the GOP three’s voluminous demands. Ironically, one of Rep. Issa’s charges against the FCIC is that it has spent too much money!

    LPAC

  396. Admin.

    I have a two-link comment stuck in spam filter. Sorry for the bother and thanks for all you do and do and do. 🙂

  397. I thought I was done for now, but one more for my friends in Texas…
    Texas State Senator Responds to Cuts: “Where Is the Outrage?”
    February 5, 2011

    As legislators in Texas began to take up the budget, faced with a demand from Bush League Gov. Rick Perry that they must cut around $28 billion to close the budget deficit, at least one Democratic State Senator raised a sharp objection against draconian cuts, which most seem resigned to implement as the “only choice.” Houston Senator John Whitmire challenged a Committee hearing, demanding to know, in the face of such cuts, “Where is the outrage?”

    “Everyone says this is critical,” he continued, during testimony from the chief of the Department of Family Protective Services, who warned of the negative effects of the cuts, “but I’m waiting for someone to say that this situation is unacceptable.”

    Sen. Whitmire continued, saying “We’re going to have to build an army. You’re going to have to talk to your neighbors, families and employees,” … “It’s going to take hundreds and thousands and millions of Texans. … You’ve got to build an expression of concern we can’t go … just with the cuts.”

    A team of LYM [LaRouche Youth Movement] organizers was in Austin this week, meeting with Senate offices to recruit legislators to fight for the U.S. Congress to adopt Glass Steagall, rather than passively accepting a budget which will kill many poor and elderly Texans.

  398. “the solution is simple: the government should spend lots of money.”

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    There are no words.

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    ohanson,

    Valuable articles contributed by you today.

  399. Dems Test Waters on Obamcare Overhaul – Patriot Update
    February 8, 2011
    Democrats are getting on the record with their opposition to the controversial provision of President Obama’s national health-care law that requires all Americans to purchase private insurance or be enrolled in an approved government program. Sens. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., John Tester, D-Mont., and Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. are reportedly looking at an alternative to the rule at the heart of the Obama law and at the heart of a constitutional challenge to it now moving through federal court. They also all happen to be facing brutal reelection bids next year. Nebraska Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson has been calling for such a change for months, and Oregon Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden has a bill on offer that would allow states to opt out of the mandate. With 27 states suing to block the mandate, it stands to reason that many would jump out of the system. The White House has been careful to not stomp on this line too hard, instead saying that the president is open to “improving” the law and making some changes. But they are not the kind of changes he has in mind since the removal of the mandate would essentially undo his signature legislative achievement.
    http://patriotupdate.com/2848/dems-test-waters-on-obamcare-overhaul

  400. Democrats are getting on the record with their opposition to the controversial provision of President Obama’s national health-care law that requires all Americans to purchase private insurance or be enrolled in an approved government program. Sens. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., John Tester, D-Mont., and Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. are reportedly looking at an alternative to the rule at the heart of the Obama law and at the heart of a constitutional challenge to it now moving through federal court. They also all happen to be facing brutal reelection bids
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    ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS. Two of the three were in the Senate, , VOTED in favor of the bill (strictly along party lines), VOTED against repeal (strictly along party lines), and they did so knowing that it contained no severability clause which might have justified this pivot. Pivot my ass. How about repudiation, make that self repudiation of their own actions. Your honor I betrayed my client but now that it is too late, I want to fix it because I am facing ethical charges. I hope the voters of Montana and Missouri are smart enough to figure this one out. It ain’t rocket science. I hope they also remember the time when McCaskill tried to cop a feel with Obama, and he had to remove her arm. Oh ain’t love grand.

  401. LaRouchePAC representative, Harley Schlanger, spoke to a source on Monday (7 Feb.), who was once highly-connected in neo-con circles. He had read the Conclusion and other sections of the FCIC report, on Harley’s recommendation, and called to say that he found there is a network of neo-con operatives [this in addition to ops from the liberal side as well] working to smear Angelides, and the Repor
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    Ohanson: There is a fatal flaw in that report: it fails to affix blame on some of the architects of the debacle. I am referring here to people like Barney Frank who put political pressure on banks to lend money to people who were a bad credit risk, and when the storm clouds began to gather denied that there was any problem. This ommission is so obvious that it points to one ineluctable conclusion, namely that on a matter which is this important to the nation, Angeledes, a California democrat who ran for lieutenant governor, could not see beyond partisanship, and give the country an accurate picture. I can understand his reluctance to do so, believe me, since it would provide the grist for Republican attacks on all democrats in 2012, but there is no way I can condone it, or give that report the weight that La Rouche people do. Can you see my point?

  402. ohanson
    February 8th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
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    Agree. The Economist is most definitely a City of London mouthpiece. That is an excellent way to put it.

  403. wbboei
    February 9th, 2011 at 8:21 am “I hope the voters of Montana and Missouri are smart enough to figure this one out.”
    ————–
    Sadly, it’s not enough to just get “someone else” elected into office as supposed Congressional representatives–that hasn’t been working out so well. People and candidates must smarten up. We have to move beyond defining ourselves with prefabricated “opinions” which more often than not are products of the public relations (behavior modification) experts.

    Where does the standard for Universal American Healthcare come from? Franklin Roosevelt’s Hill-Burton standard. The current “health reform” comes nowhere close to the breakthrough healthcare policy that Roosevelt established in the 1940’s.

    There are much deeper issues that must be considered in crafting a successful Health Care policy today, issues of mortality, immortality, making decisions based on the future, what is real value versus monetary value and so on. These were the kinds of issues Roosevelt had to confront PERSONALLY, in his near death experience with polio. The discoveries made by Roosevelt in personally overcoming the limitations of his mortality gave him the proper lens through which to situate his identity in the long span of history, and think of policies like healthcare as security for the posterity of the nation and a defense of the general welfare as our constitution dictates, rather than today’s insane austerity cuts to keep the bankrupt financier casinos looting a bit longer.

    The time has come to learn the lessons of Franklin Roosevelt’s approach to public health. Repeal HMO’s and Revive the Hill-Burton standard!

    A. Restoring Hill-Burton
    1. Situating Health-Care Policy: What is Infrastructure?
    2. The RX for Rebuilding Health-Care
    3. The Government’s Role in Health-Care Policy
    4. The Hill-Burton Act–excerpts from 42|U.S.C.|291 et seq., which are, at present, incorporated into current U.S. law by the Hill-Burton Act.

    B. What Not To Do: Obama’s Nazi Plan
    1. How Hitler’s T4 Program is Revived in Obama’s Reform
    2. Outlaw the HMOs
    3. Who Gets Care and Who Dies.
    4. Obama’s Nazi Doctors And Their ‘Reforms’

    http://www.larouchepac.com/health

  404. ohanson
    February 9th, 2011 at 9:02 am
    wbboei
    February 9th, 2011 at 8:21 am “I hope the voters of Montana and Missouri are smart enough to figure this one out.”
    ————–
    Sadly, it’s not enough to just get “someone else” elected into office as supposed Congressional representatives–that hasn’t been working out so well. People and candidates must smarten up. We have to move beyond defining ourselves with prefabricated “opinions” which more often than not are products of the public relations (behavior modification) experts
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    You are right. It does no good to vote one politician out of office if all we end up with is another politician beholden to same interests. But the starting point for me is accountability. There is no way that Barney Frank should have been re elected, and now way George Bush should have been reelected after what they did to this country. But if as we see from Obama we end up with a politician from the opposing party who carries out those same policies, which as a candidate he promised to reverse, then we have accomplished less than nothing. What you end up with is the illusion of change.

  405. As Moon said. Obama has more positions than a hooker at a Democratic National Convention. Larry provides a comprehensive outline of the facts–lest we forget. You will find none of this in big media. This analysis gives open minded people the information they need to evaluate Obama’s competence–or lack thereof. He has permanently damaged US interests in that part of the world, and laid the groundwork for another Iran–as Bibi recently observed. None of this will you see in big media. Their role is to cover up his mistakes and perpetuate the false picture of him as brilliant, decisive and in charge–which is of course the big lie. It is the big lie because it prevents people who are too consumed with their daily lives to follow much of this, without the information they need to evaluate his pathetic performance, hence no ability to exercise an informed decision when they vote.
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    By Larry Johnson on February 9, 2011 at 12:38 AM in Current Affairs

    Man, does Obama have a flat learning curve? The crisis in Egypt has exposed his inexperience and incompetence in a big way. Yes, I know some Republicans, like Arizona’s McCain and Graham of South Carolina, are singing Obama’s praises, but they are off-base. Obama has not had a consistent, steady public position. Worse, his public chiding of the Egyptian regime has not softened them or caused them to pause. Instead, they have dug in.

    It started on 2 February when Obama got out in front:

    Last night, Obama issued a brief public statement that included just one line about a prospective deadline for Mubarak’s exit from power: “My belief is that an orderly transition must be meaningful, must be peaceful and it must begin now,” Obama said.

    But White House press secretary Robert Gibbs was more explicit Wednesday.

    “‘Now’ means ‘yesterday,’” Gibbs explained. “When we said ‘now,’ we meant ‘yesterday’… that’s what the people of Egypt want to see,” Gibbs said, adding that a process that begins one week, one month, or many months from now won’t suffice.

    Then we have Obama’s Special Envoy wade in with this:

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak must stay in power for now to steer the political transition, President Obama’s special envoy for Egypt told reporters Saturday.

    “We need to get a national consensus around the preconditions for the next step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes,” Frank Wisner told a security conference in Munich, Germany, during a video conference from Washington, Reuters reported.

    We talked about this a few days back. Nothing like a mixed message to really destroy your credibility. The Obama team quickly scrambled to distance themselves from Wisner, claiming he was speaking on his own. But the damage was done.

    Next into the political scrum was VP Joe Biden, who modified “now” into “sometime:”

    In a phone call with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman, Vice President Biden called for President Hosni Mubarak to spell out when he intends to leave office.

    In the strongest words to date, the White House said that during the phone call to Suleiman, Biden “stressed the need for a concrete reform agenda, a clear timeline, and immediate steps that demonstrate to the public and the opposition that the Egyptian government is committed to reform.”

    The calls for a “clear timeline” and “immediate steps” demonstrating a commitment to political reform are the latest ratcheting up of public rhetoric about President Obama’s desire that Mubarak exit sooner rather than later.

    So here is today’s position, at least one of them:

    The Obama administration has reconciled itself to gradual political reform in Egypt, an approach that reflects its goal of maintaining stability in the Middle East but is at odds with demands of the protest movement in Cairo that President Hosni Mubarak relinquish power immediately.

    A week after the Obama administration demanded a swift transition to a post-Mubarak era, it has dampened the sense of urgency and aligned itself with power-brokers such as new Vice President Omar Suleiman, who are urging a more stable, if much slower, move to real democracy.

    But U.S. officials privately acknowledged that there is no guarantee that Suleiman, a former intelligence chief closely aligned with the military, is committed to substantial reforms…

    In that vein, the administration now appears satisfied to have Mubarak remain as a figurehead as long as talks with the opposition continue. His resignation would trigger a constitutional requirement for elections in 60 days, and State Department officials warned that opposition parties may not be ready that quickly.

    Except the Obama team just couldn’t help itself and produced this turd of a comment:

    The days of the U.S. calling the shots in Egypt are history. Egypt will fundamentally change as a result of the events of the last three weeks but change is not necessarily good. For starters the close relationship with the United States is dead. Does not matter who takes over they will no longer be willing to readily do our bidding when it comes to protecting Israel’s southwest border. The new Egypt will be more nationalist and there is a real risk that the Peace Treaty with Israel will be scrapped. As someone who has been accused of being anti-Semitic because of my past criticisms of Israel’s policies, I take no delight or joy in this. I don’t see an immediate threat of war but the security situation in the region will almost certainly become more volatile and unstable over the next two years regardless of who is in power in Egypt.

    Reverend Amy has done a great job of reminding folks that the Mulsim Brothers are not democrats yearning for a more open society. While they are not as radical as Al Qaeda and are viewed by the most extreme Islamists as apostates, they are not about to call for a society that respects all religions or that encourages women to participate fully in government and business.

    A preview of a Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian Government came via Kamal al-Halbavi:

    A senior member of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood has expressed gratitude to the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei for his support of the Egyptian revolution.

    Kamal al-Halbavi made the remark in an interview with the state-funded BBC Persian on Sunday night.

    Halbavi further expressed hope that Egypt would have “a good government, like the Iranian government, and a good president like Mr. Ahmadinejad, who is very brave.”

    When asked about the Muslim Brotherhood’s opinion of Ayatollah Khamenei’s statements on Egypt’s developments, Halbavi said, “Many thanks for Imam Khamenei and all who support the revolution in Egypt.”

    Ayatollah Khamenei said in Tehran’s Friday prayers last week that the recent developments in North Africa are the result of “Islamic awakening, which followed the great Islamic Revolution of the Iranian nation.”

    The Leader of the Islamic Revolution made reference to Egyptians’ fight for “dignity and honor” and noted that Mubarak’s biggest crime was turning Egypt into an instrument in the hands of the United States.

    The Muslim Brotherhood member added that he wants his country to develop in all spheres “like Iran, achieving more technological and scientific advances and becoming a regional power.”

    Yep, that’s what we need–a NEW IRAN in the Middle East.

    I realize that all of the romantic revolutionary bullshit being spun on our Cable channels gets some teary eyed and pulling for the PEOPLE to have their way. Unfortunately the real world does not work that way. Those with organization can create a system that is also oppressive and dangerous. The image of a little girl perched on her father’s shoulders waving an Egyptian flag certainly resonates in the West, but that little girl is not going to get a government under the Muslim Brothers that will encourage her to be educated and work in a chosen profession as an equal of men.

    There is no sense in arguing about what Obama should have done. That moment has come and gone. His failure to properly manage this crisis has now put him on the outside looking in. Both sides in Egypt are now pissed at the United States. Down the road I expect the U.S. financial aid to Egypt will be scaled back dramatically, especially if the Muslim Brotherhood gets a significant seat at the table.

    Mubarak and the Egyptian military have gone after the Islamists with a heavy hand and for good reason. Fourteen years ago in Luxor, Egypt a small group of Islamists murdered tourists:

    There is no monolithic Islam. There are almost an infinite variety of groups and factions. The current Government has gone to great lengths to ensure that tourists can visit Egypt without fear of being massacred. We are going back to the future. There will be more incidents like this regardless of whom assumes the reins of power in Egypt. That’s not hope and change that I want any part of.

  406. wbboei
    February 9th, 2011 at 8:44 am … Ohanson: There is a fatal flaw in that report: it fails to affix blame on some of the architects of the debacle. I am referring here to people like Barney Frank who put political pressure on banks to lend money to people who were a bad credit risk, and when the storm clouds began to gather denied that there was any problem. This omission is so obvious that it points to one ineluctable conclusion, namely that on a matter which is this important to the nation, Angeledes, a California democrat who ran for lieutenant governor, could not see beyond partisanship, and give the country an accurate picture. I can understand his reluctance to do so, believe me, since it would provide the grist for Republican attacks on all democrats in 2012, but there is no way I can condone it, or give that report the weight that LaRouche people do. Can you see my point?

    ——–

    wbboei, I think you may have your mind wrapped around this better than I do in a sense, but let me try to respond as I’m able.

    I have a suspicion Barney was doing a clever political gambit (ploy?) with the “helping the poor” crap. We could bust him for worse. He’s a tool of the Boston Vault. But maybe that’s what you are already saying…

    Too true, the report is no Pecora Commission (I wish! God, I’d love to see Pecora or his like tear into those assholes! On teevee, no less) But it’s all we have. You gotta fight with what you have, not what you wish you had. Seems to me anyone bringing up the flaw that “the report fails to affix blame on some of the architects of the debacle” can be answered with, “You’re right, let’s do it!” That’s where I’m at.

    If people understand what the report says, it’s not so hard to come up with names. Names from both parties. People from both parties are attacking the report now–tools and fools.

    Is Angeledes out playing partisan games now? I haven’t had the time and resources to see, but I’m supposing not. If he actually is, and not just assholes concocting strawmen distractions, then, yes, it’s discouraging. (Doe that seem to be the case? Is he acting partisan?)

    We’ve got to get people out of this Dem vs. Repub thinking, and base our approach to reform and policy on principles. The LYM is organizing on the state legislature and even city council level, and I think getting pretty good response. Both parties are deeply corrupt; how do we deal with that? Maybe stirring up a strongly principled party membership–of both parties–so that they join the fight? Fact is, we outnumber the corrupt ones by a long shot. By and large, people are sick of this shit (but not according to teevee). What we need is leadership and organization.

    –begin shamelessly plagiarizing LPAC —

    The crisis was foreseeable, the bailout was unnecessary and the actions of swindlers like Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Hank Paulson and Timothy Geithner amount to criminal frauds against the American population.

    How many opinionated idiots and talking heads have spent the last several years expostulating that the bailouts had to be done to save our economy, even as trillions of those bailouts poured into foreign banks? With so many cowards and fools in positions of influence, is it any wonder that we still have an insane puppet for President, who still thinks that the bailouts are working, and that we are now experiencing an economic recovery?

    The mouthpieces of Wall Street and London are obviously freaked out about the conclusions drawn by the FCIC report. Why?

    Because they know this will be seen as a victory for LaRouche, [if anyone thinks they don’t know he exists, or do not regard him as a threat, I respectfully disagree–they keep a wary eye and do react fearfully.] the only leading U.S. patriot courageous enough to say from the very beginning that the bailout policy as pushed by the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd was “Tantamount to Treason.”

    This crisis could have been avoided. Were LaRouche’s Homeowner and Bank Protection Act of 2007 implemented [you better believe Barney knows exactly what it was.] millions of families would have been spared from home foreclosures. It can still be reversed today: by reinstating the original 1933 Glass-Steagall law, much of the bailout would be retroactively canceled, wiping out some $17 trillion worth of financial claims.

    ———-

    That’s what they rightly fear. That’s the necessary next objective.

    Hope this makes some sense. I’m not sure if I saw your point or not.

  407. House rejects extensions of Patriot Act provisions

    By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer Jim Abrams, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 5 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – The House on Tuesday failed to extend the life of three surveillance tools that are key to the nation’s post-Sept. 11 anti-terror law, a slipup for the new Republican leadership that miscalculated the level of opposition.

    The House voted 277-148 to keep the three provisions of the USA Patriot Act on the books until Dec. 8. But Republicans brought up the bill under a special expedited procedure requiring a two-thirds majority, and the vote was seven short of reaching that level.

    The Republicans, who took over the House last month, lost 26 of their own members, adding to the 122 Democrats who voted against it. Supporters say the three measures are vital to preventing another terrorist attack, but critics say they infringe on civil liberties. They appealed to the antipathy that newer and more conservative Republicans hold for big government invasions of individual privacy.

    Earlier on Tuesday, Republicans also pulled a bill from the floor because of dissatisfaction about extending trade benefits for three South American countries while continuing a program that helps retrain Americans who lose their jobs to foreign competition.

    The Patriot Act bill would have renewed the authority for court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones. Also addressed was Section 215, the so-called library records provision that gives the FBI court-approved access to “any tangible thing” relevant to a terrorism investigation.

    The third deals with the “lone-wolf” provision of a 2004 anti-terror law that permits secret intelligence surveillance of non-U.S. people not known to be affiliated with a specific terrorist organization.

    Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the former Judiciary Committee chairman who authored the 2001 Patriot Act, urged his colleagues to support the extensions, saying they were needed as a stopgap until permanent statutes could be agreed upon.

    “The terrorist threat has not subsided and will not expire, and neither should our national security laws,” he said.

    But Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, said Republican supporters of the tea party movement should show their opposition to big government by joining Democrats in opposing the measure.

    “How about the Patriot Act, which has the broadest reach and the deepest reach of government to our daily lives?” he asked.

    The defeat means that Republicans may have to bring the bill back to the floor under regular procedures that only require a majority for passage but allow for amendments. Time is of the essence: The three provisions will expire on Feb. 28 if the House and Senate can’t agree on how to proceed.

    The House had pushed for a nine-month extension to give lawmakers more time to come up with an approach that would give the measures permanent legal status. The Senate is considering longer-range ideas.

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., last month introduced legislation that would extend the three provisions through 2013 while improving oversight of intelligence-gathering tools. Leahy would also phase out, at the end of 2013, the use of national security letters, FBI demands for information that do not need a judge’s approval.

    The Senate also has on its legislative calendar a bill by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would reauthorize the three measures through 2013 and a Republican proposal that would make them permanent.

    More at:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110209/ap_on_re_us/us_patriot_act

  408. The question/debate on whether obama knew about the mess erupting in Egypt or not is a moot point.

    Flat learning curve is right. But even more, what person reaches the level of potus without keeping track on his own of international affairs without having to be briefed. I’m not talking about the little events, but surely the bigger events, i.e. the middle east turmoil would constitute some home study?

    I can’t see Bill or Hillary not being on top of this without being babysat.

  409. Babysat…Bill and Hill would have changed the diaper, powdered its ass, rocked it to sleep, put it to bed and gone lay on the sofa by the time Obama got of his ass and smoked a cigarette.

  410. Israel’s Barak in US for top-level talks
    (AFP) – 5 hours ago

    JERUSALEM — Israel’s Defence Minister Ehud Barak is to hold a series of top-level talks in Washington later on Wednesday which Israeli media say will centre on the unfolding crisis in Egypt.

    Barak left Israel on Tuesday for a two-day visit to Washington and New York, and is expected to meet US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defence Secretary Robert Gates and National Security chief Tom Donilon, his office said.

    He is to brief Congress on Wednesday and later meet with senior White House adviser Dennis Ross alongside a number of other top defence and intelligence officials, his office said, without saying what would be on the agenda.

    Media reports said he will also meet UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in New York.

    The English-language Jerusalem Post and the Ynet news website both said Barak’s visit will focus on the Egyptian unrest and its impact on Israel and the strategic balance in the region.

    With the Mubarak regime under threat of collapse, Israel fears a power vacuum could be exploited by Islamist elements determined to rescind the 1979 peace treaty between the two countries.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iyjhom72n3Zcz_7Io03KOK6zVhfw?docId=CNG.4f6d274f3aeb88a025c7211f3b0a1ee7.171

  411. moononpluto
    February 7th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Wow, Obama really messed this one up.
    [snip]
    The Democratic Leadership Council, the iconic centrist organization of the Clinton years, is out of money and could close its doors as soon as next week, a person familiar with the plans said Monday.
    [snip]
    Obama is dismantling this party right before our eyes.
    &&&&&&&

    1. I don’t know if you can say that “Obama messed this up”, if taken from the point of view that Obama is threatened by the centrists, and the DLC is a centrist group within the Democratic party. So the starvation of the DLC reveals success in the OBOT wing of the party. Heck, the OBOT party isn’t necessarily comprised of “progressives” and “liberals”. What’s left of the Dems is a structure built to support Obama and raise money for him.

    2. That said, yes, “Obama is dismantling this party right before our eyes.” It was a party I believed in, before they sold their souls for the fake savior.

    And their reward? It will be to taste the tires under the bus. Nobody supports Obama without getting hurt evenutally.

  412. wbboei
    February 7th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
    Ex-Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell and his wife, Judge Marjorie Rendell, announce separation via e-mail – NBC Philadelphia
    ————————–
    Not surprising. It is common knowledge in the upper echelons of the Pennsylvania bar that Ed had a difficult time keeping his zipper up.
    &&&&&&&&

    What? Isn’t this a matter his tailor could handle? Oy vey.

  413. JanH
    February 9th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Flat learning curve is right. But even more, what person reaches the level of potus without keeping track on his own of international affairs without having to be briefed.
    &&&&&&&

    At briefings, Bill or Hillary would be the ones giving the briefing.

    O-turd has to be spoon-fed in digestible little spoonfuls, just like idiot W. Bush was not too swift, and Obama is lazy and uninformed, despite all the claims of him being a TOWERING INTELLECT. His is not. Let’s look at those college recor…oh, never mind.

  414. This article you’ll have to read for yourself and decide. I will say this, Kincaid is an excellent researcher… pdf docs at main link.
    _______________________

    Just received an email from James Simpson referring readers to the research of Cliff Kincaid, on the Egypt and Muslim Brotherhood crisis:

    http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-washington-dc/update-u-s-marxists-conspiring-with-muslim-brotherhood-to-collapse-the-middle

    Update: U.S. marxists conspiring with Muslim Brotherhood to collapse the Middle East

    A series of in depth studies by Cliff Kincaid at America’s Survival provide detailed confirmation of the assertions presented in last week’s article, We are witnessing the collapse of the Middle East. As usual, Cliff has really done his homework. This series is not to be missed:

    U.S. Based Marxists Subvert Friendly Regimes and Support Foreign Terrorist Organizations: Updated with Information About Al-Jazeera (PDF)

    Revolutionary Socialists of Egypt Join with Muslim Brotherhood Against the Mubarak Government, the United States and Israel

    EXPOSED!!! Al-Jazeera is the Muslim Brotherhood Channel

    Let’s help spread this critical information.

  415. Breaking News :

    Sen Jim Webb, D-VA, announces he won’t seek re-election next year. Says he’ll “return to the private sector.”

  416. I was watching the Good Wife last night. The husband is running for office again, and his campaign guy was having a conversation with someone else and he said the candidate wants to appear with it, unlike Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Campaign. I thought that was another subliminal swipe at her. She was doing everything he was, including her job in the Senate. Of course we elected the perceived with it candidate, and now what a mess we have. His crappy legislation on Health Care, which some said, just to get anything passed was a success, now looks like a disaster. I think they felt they could do it and then tweek it. However, that only works if you have a majority. So now they are left with crappy legislation that will be hard to tweek, maybe impossible to tweek after 2012 elections.

    Hillary’s not with it philosophy to pass the best possible legislation you can, because you might have to live with it. If it is your best, then it will not be a disaster if you cannot tweek it.

    I just don’t see how having over 20 states challenging your legislation cannot result in a legislative disaster. He has never been able to sell anything in his life. I am beginning to believe a used car salesmen in there would have been better than he is.

    SO MUCH FOR THE WITH IT CANDIDATE. We need to protest to that show for the subliminal slam.

  417. NMF,

    I saw the show as well and agree with you.

    “She was doing everything he was, including her job in the Senate.”

    While he took the money, followed her lead on when to make an appearance for senate votes, and otherwise concentrated on being an ass.

  418. Mrs. Smith
    Finally the MSM picked up on the firing on the protestors. Fox tv is now doing a report on the 3 deaths, no info on the injuries. How long did that take after you posted it – 35 minutes?

  419. Look whose cage MSNBC has rattled now:

    Please help The National Republican Trust PAC tell the truth about Bill Clinton before he is reinvented as a Democrat campaign superstar. MSNBC’s hour long tribute to Clinton is what propoganda looks like! WE ARE GOING TO PRODUCE A HIGHLY PROVOCATIVE SET OF ADS AND WE WILL BUY COMMERCIAL TIME DURING THE CLINTON BROADCAST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!!! CLINTON, THE DEMOCRATS AND THE LIBERAL MEDIA WILL HATE US FOR THIS! But this will turn the nations focus off of the propaganda and onto the important issues of the corruption in the Democrat party! We will remind America about the true Clinton legacy and prevent the media from reinventing history and resurrecting this shameful politician. Help us get these ads on the air. Donate by credit card using this form…
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    Or did they? I wonder if NRT PAC will come up with these ads, and if MSNBC would air them. This could be a huge mess as was expressed earlier on this blog by someone concerned over an alleged fluff piece about BC. Regret I cannot recall the commenter.

  420. “Please help The National Republican Trust PAC tell the truth about Bill Clinton…”

    ———-
    Really? I mean Really?

    Does that mean that Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. are up for grabs as well?

    He isn’t even president anymore so why are they going after him?

  421. Heard it all now…………………where have i heard something similar before…oh yeah Nazi Germany. Why not go the whole haul and make them sew them onto clothes.

    Obama Care Advocate, advocates making people wear gold stars who refuse Obamacare

    Len Nichols, a health economist who teaches at Virginia’s George Mason University, says without a requirement for coverage, Congress might have to find another way to make the consequences of not having insurance even more dramatic.

    For example, he says, perhaps if people don’t buy insurance when it is first available, “if you ever try to buy insurance again, you’ll have to pay three times the market price, and we will put a gold sticker on your forehead and say to all hospitals, ‘You do not have to treat this person; this person has forfeited their right to uncompensated care.’ ”

    http://www.npr.org/2011/02/08/133503755/alternatives-to-mandating-insurance-maybe