Egypt, Boobery, And The Price To Be Paid

Recall our number one reason why Barack Obama Is Not Qualified To Be President:

Barack Obama was not, and is not qualified to be President of the United States. Put aside Obama’s flim-flam history, the thugs he surrounds himself with, his treacheries, his total lack of accomplishments other than self-advancement, his risible résumé, his stinky body odor, the secretiveness of his past, the lack of documentation about earlier periods of his life, drug use, the self-admitted inability to keep a paper in front of him for 2 seconds before losing it, the lies about lost documents from his Chicago legislative office, the grabbing of credit for work others have done, the race-baiting, the woman-hating, the profitable alliances with criminals which even got him a house, the lack of interest in his constituents, the obvious lies when he denies positions he has even affixed his signature to on questionnaires, his lies about being a reformer when he swims in the swamps of Chicago corruption, the ugly church mentor of 20 plus years, his smearing of opponents with sexual or racial slurs, the gay-bashing, the secret deals, the incompetence, the long list of corruptions and boobery… – put all this history we have documented aside. Barack Obama is not qualified to be President because he does not have a world-view which is congruent with reality.”

We are now witnessing the price to be paid for the election of Barack Obama. Does anyone recall anymore with any level of seriousness the argument once made by Dumb White People (think Andrew Sullivan) the wonderous deeds Obama would accomplish in the Muslim world?

During the general election campaign of 2008 we argued Obama had no idea what to do when a 3:00 a.m. phone call came. Hillary had earlier made that argument and it was denounced as “racist”. During the general election campaign John McCain acted quickly when Russia invaded Georgia. Obama boobed about with generic statements and waited on sidelines. We quoted Roger Simon:

“McCain just pounded away on his central argument: Obama just didn’t “understand” how to deal with Pakistan; how dangerous it is to meet with foreign leaders without preconditions; how serious the Russian invasion of Georgia was; the price of failure in Iraq.

“He doesn’t understand, he doesn’t get it,” McCain said of Obama, also saying, “There is a little bit of naiveté here.”[snip]

“I don’t need any on-the-job training,” McCain said. “I am ready to go at it right now.”

Foreign leaders saw the boobery at the top and laughed knowing they could take advantage of the simpleton American president. “Sucker” they said.

World populations at first celebrated the boob-in-chief. But after the betrayal of the nascent grassroots Iranian revolution world populations understood that Obama could not be trusted. They also learned what we have repeatedly written “if you elect a boob, expect boobery”.

During the Iranian uprising Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tried her best to ameliorate the Obama weakness. Hillary Clinton understands “The Danger Of Obama Weakness“. Hillary tried to help the situation in Egypt today. She warned the Egyptian government to listen to the people and condemned the shutdown of the Internet. But the rebellion in Egyptian streets is not the same as the turmoil in Iran.



Egypt is the ballgame. Since time immemorial the way to regional stability has been a strong Egypt. When the Persians (modern day Iran) rose up the counterweight was Egypt. Whether it was ancient Assyria or ancient Babylon the counterweight was always Egypt. The realpolitik way to modern day peace has always been an Egyptian and Israeli alliance beyond the peace treaty signed by the two countries and imposition of peace in the region.

In Egypt however, the chances are that the overthrow of the Mubarak tyranny (and it is a tyranny) will be replaced by the Islamic Brotherhood. The equation for peace will be turned on its head. With the Islamic Brotherhood in charge the weight on the scales would be on the side of regional war at best and an overthrow of every West friendly regime as well as control of oil and the ports of oil in the hands of the Caliphate (accompanied by cheers in Iran and other Islamic regimes).

The revolution in the Egyptian streets is strong and growing stronger. It is doubtful the current government will survive. While we hope that this Egyptian revolution demonstrates Arab and Muslim population are sick and tired of the tyrannies they are oppressed by – and while change is desperately needed in the Arab/Muslim world and therefore the revolutionaries should be cheered on – we know that Hope is not a strategy and Change is not always for the best.

There are many lessons to be learned and the United States is not helpless. Lessons to be learned are that the Israel and Palestinian battles are a side show. The nonsense from many that the “settlement issue” is an obstacle to peace and needs to be resolved in order to achieve regional peace is bunk. Obama has been and continues to be wrong on the “settlement issue” as well as the entire Palestinian issue.

The United States is not helpless, but as we say, “if you elect a boob, expect boobery”. Thus far Obama has demonstrated he is not fit nor qualified to lead the United States.

We said the same long ago:

“To be an American president means having a world view. Hillary Clinton has a world-view. Hillary Clinton mocked Obama in her insightful “celestial choirs” speech. Hillary Clinton mocked Obama about his foolish “no preconditions, in the first year, anywhere, anytime” meetings with America’s enemies. Hillary Clinton mocked Obama as “naive”. Hillary Clinton was saying that Obama did not know or understand how the world works. Hillary Clinton was saying that Obama’s world view was not congruent with reality. Hillary Clinton has been proved right.

Today, Leslie Gelb begins a very polite and gentle narrative, saying pretty much that Obama better get a reality based world-view, quickly or we all face continued disaster with a boob in charge. Writes Gelb, “If the president wants to be more than a one-term wonder, he needs to have a vision.”[snip]

A world view is not a set of positions, it is a deep understanding which is in the bones of atavistic history. [snip]

Jimmy Carter was a man conflicted. He wanted to be Pope but settled for president. He reacted to events because he did not have a world-view from the outset which comported with reality. Wanting to be an honest man and a peacemaking leader he instead was forced to react to evil in the world and bumbled and stumbled badly. Iran is a great part of his sad legacy. [snip]

Obama is the problem. Obama is not qualified to be president. It’s like asking a chicken to soar with the eagle. It’s like asking Obama to be Hillary Clinton with her lifetime of experience. It’s like asking Obama to be Hillary Clinton with her lifetime fighting to make the world a better place even if she makes enemies while making things better. [snip]

Obama is the problem. Rahm Emanuel was successful in the Clinton White House because Hillary demoted him when he needed to be demoted, disciplined him when he needed to be disciplined, smacked him on the head when he needed to be smacked. All the Clinton era appointees in the world will not help Obama because the problem is Obama. Obama is not qualified to be president. Obama can’t be trusted by friend nor foe. Obama can’t be trusted.”

The United States is not helpless nor without great power. But that great power requires someone who knows how to wield it. It would not help if Barack Obama had as his top advisors all Republicans. It would not help if Robert Gibbs was not an advisor. It would not help if Barack Obama had all neocons as his top advisors. It would not help if Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich were Obama’s top advisors. It would not help if Henry Kissinger, Albright, Baker, Schultz, McNamara, Dulles were Obama advisors. It does not help that Hillary Clinton is supposed to be a top advisor. THE PROBLEM IS BARACK OBAMA.

None of this is to say that the United States nor the American President is solely to blame for the turmoil in the world generally and in Egypt particularly. There is opportunity in every crisis. But the opportunity has to have as the goal a better and stronger United States. Barack Obama however only looks for opportunity as a vehicle for personal celebrity and applause.

The United States is not the problem. The advisors are not the problem. The problem is Barack Obama. The problem is that the 3:00 a.m. calls continue to ring in the office of a man who is not qualified to respond or is either on vacation or at the golf course.

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394 thoughts on “Egypt, Boobery, And The Price To Be Paid

  1. The United States is not the problem. The advisors are the the problem. The problem is Barack Obama. The problem is that the 3:00 a.m. calls continue to ring in the office of a man who is not qualified to respond or is either on vacation or at the golf course.
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    Did you mean ‘The advisors are NOT the problem.?

  2. Barack Obama however only looks for opportunity as a vehicle for personal celebrity and applause.
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    And this is the danger of his presidency.

  3. And his voters only looked for the opportunity to prove what nice white people they were, that they could gang up on a rich bitch and metaphorically gang-rape her with the rest of the guys, that they would under no circumstances vote for the woman or else they might come across as not cute to boys, or else as a childish tantrum that “mommy’s not the boss of me.”

    There you have it. And now, because of all that nonsense, we’re fucked.

  4. Admin: You knocked another one out of the park…it was great…and the video…scary, but so true!

    Boobery from the Boob and we are paying him 400,000 a year for this boobery….horrible!

  5. “In Egypt however, the chances are that the overthrow of the Mubarak tyranny (and it is a tyranny) will be replaced by the Islamic Brotherhood. The equation for peace will be turned on its head. With the Islamic Brotherhood in charge the weight on the scales would be on the side of regional war at best and an overthrow of every West friendly regime as well as control of oil and the ports of oil in the hands of the Caliphate (accompanied by cheers in Iran and other Islamic regimes).”
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    Exactly, admin- The Islamic Brotherhood are infiltrating the civilian protesters and they will break through under cover of civilian demonstrators. Then the takeover will be complete for the Islamic Brotherhood and Sharia Rule.

  6. confloyd
    January 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    BTW, I surely hope Hillary doesn’t quit now.
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    If Hillary doesn’t quit; then OBAMA MUST GO!

  7. Admin-
    Another great post that always shows me the bigger picture and gets me out of the weeds.

    That song/video brings back memories when we thought people learned from their mistakes, but here we are, in two wars with the middle east on fire again.

    Are humans basically stupid, or what?

    Killing over a plot of dirt, killing over 40 pieces of silver, killing over what ever ticks you off.

    It’s just another morning for Sisyphus.

    On that depressing note, Happy Friday Big Pinkers.

  8. “Lessons to be learned are that the Israel and Palestinian battles are a side show. The nonsense from many that the “settlement issue” is an obstacle to peace and needs to be resolved in order to achieve regional peace is bunk.”

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    Indeed.

  9. Mrs.Smith,
    Except for the persistant voice of “common sense” from Hillary, then there would be none strong enough to counter his ignorance….what would happen??

    Is she the only one that stands up to him???

  10. BTW, I can’t imagine how Israel feels tonight? Larry Johnson suggesting to get your loved ones out of Israel quickly! Scary!

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    confloyd
    January 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Mrs.Smith,
    Except for the persistant voice of “common sense” from Hillary, then there would be none strong enough to counter his ignorance….what would happen??

    Is she the only one that stands up to him???
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    Obama doesn’t know what to do- So he does nothing. He makes ad hoc promises to different nations and is caught up in his own selfish gain instead of doing the right thing. Obama operates without a plan the reason why he is lost when all Hell breaks loose.

  12. ADMIN…you are spot on…

    all the cheerleaders thought this was some big game they were playing…all the Clinton haters came out to snatch victory and claim power for O and now over and over again we are seeing with horror how his lack of experience and lack of FOCUS is costing us every day…

    …things are getting worse and worse…not better…

    …and what makes this even alarming is that O is just about to embark on his re-election campaign and be in campaign mode from here on in…we will be getting more distractions, more speeches, more arrogant, snide remarks…his focus and “his adminsistration”, as he calls it, will be focused on his re-election…and securing those billions to win…

    we need an adult in charge…

  13. “Barack Obama however only looks for opportunity as a vehicle for personal celebrity and applause.”

    Gents,
    I have a different view of Zero.
    Yes, he is a boob, interested in “celebrity and applause”.
    But he is foremost a cold hearted Marxist, with Islamic sympathies, looking for every opportunity to weaken the USA and push it into the International Socialist System/NWO.
    By pushing a hard core Islamic fundamentalist regime in Egypt, and, across the Middle East, certainly advances that goal.
    Carter created the mullahocracy in Iran because he was stupid, but our Zero is doing it on purpose in the Middle East.
    So, the problem is much more complex and SCARY, than you guys, are presenting it.
    I wish that were not the case, but I am not kidding myself.

  14. OT a bit…kind of sad…and ironic that one of the very few things we make…and actually have printed “made in the USA” (vs made in china) are the tear gas cannisters choking people today…

    what a mess..

  15. Even sadder, the MADE IN USA Tear Gas canisters were shown on an NBC World report from Cairo. For the entire world to see!

  16. Sean Hannity and Buddy Cianci just both said that they have alot more confidence in Hillary Clinton than Barak Obama

    …now everyone is seeing the truth for what it is

  17. “Carter created the mullahocracy in Iran because he was stupid, but our Zero is doing it on purpose in the Middle East.”
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    That statement is for real. Earlier today, Iwas mocked because I said the ‘Islamist want to take over the World’. Obama is giving away the store to anyone that will help him accomplish this goal. A goal he promised to Islam when he became one himself. This is Obama’s VISION and a good enough reason for his removal from the US Presidency.

  18. Rising food prices and shortages are projected to be worse in 2011 than 07-08. This is likely to be the trigger for more instability in North Africa, Middle East and elsewhere. Libya may be the most stable in the area.

  19. “a rare speaking stumble?” LMAO!

    Obama mixes up Iraq, Afghanistan on YouTube

    By Tom Cohen, CNN
    January 28, 2011

    Washington (CNN) — President Barack Obama experienced a rare speaking stumble Thursday, mixing up Iraq and Afghanistan when responding in a YouTube interview to questions challenging the wars in those countries.

    The president twice referred to Afghanistan when clearly talking about the situation in Iraq.

    He said that the United States would withdraw all combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2011 and that combat operations there had ended, which actually describes the situation and policy for Iraq.

    It was unclear whether Obama realized his mistake. He then correctly stated the situation in Afghanistan, saying the United States would start withdrawing some forces beginning in July, with the goal of handing over full security responsibilities to the Afghan government in 2014.

    The 40-minute interview was part of a White House communications offensive in support of this week’s State of the Union speech, with a series of events in which top administration officials spoke directly to Americans about administration policies set out in the address Tuesday night.

    Questions for the president ranged from the personal, such as what he would give the first lady as a Valentine’s Day gift, to policy issues asking how his administration will pay for its proposals, why prescription drugs are so expensive and how he justified the toll of the two wars in terms of money and loss of life.

    On the wars that his administration inherited, Obama said that the goal in Afghanistan was to dismantle the terrorism network there that directed the September 11 attacks and that progress was being made. He said he opposed the Iraq war and pointed out efforts by his administration to withdraw all combat troops by the end of the year.

    It was during his response that he mixed up the two countries.

    In other answers, Obama repeated many of his proposals from the State of the Union address when asked about his plans for education, economic growth and immigration reform.

    Asked where the money would come from to pay for programs such as his Race to the Top education reform plan, Obama mentioned the proposed five-year freeze on nonsecurity discretionary spending, which he said would save the government $400 billion.

    The freeze would result in spending cuts, including programs he favored such as community action grants that help spur economic development, Obama said. At the same time, he said, the cuts would be targeted — made with a scalpel as opposed to a chainsaw, as he put it — and would allow for increased spending in critical areas such as education and innovation.

    Asked about the lower test scores of Hispanic and other minority students, Obama spoke of his education proposals, including Race to the Top, which rewards states with successful programs by providing increased funding.

    Noting that the U.S. populations of Hispanic, African-American and Asian students were increasing, Obama said that failing to properly educate them and close the “achievement gaps” would be growing problem.

    A question on clean energy provided the president with the opportunity to reiterate his call for increased spending on research and development, as well as setting standards so that specific portions of energy come from clean energy sources.

    When asked about possibly legalizing drugs to save law enforcement costs and reduce drug-related crime, Obama said he opposed outright legalization but favored treating the issue as a public health and safety problem. The goal should be to shrink the demand for drugs by changing attitudes instead of being too strongly focused on arresting and imprisoning people, Obama said.

    In addition, Obama called for more resources for programs to help people dealing with drug addiction and other problems, noting that it can take six months to get into drug treatment programs in some cities.

    Obama spent Wednesday visiting solar and wind energy companies in Wisconsin to tout his push for increased government investment in clean energy as a growth industry of the future, a major theme of his speech the night before.

    Along with Obama’s YouTube interview, Vice President Joe Biden answered questions from the public in a Yahoo interview Thursday, and four top administration officials participated in online discussions answering questions submitted via Facebook, the online social network.

    Such access to top policymakers — the president, vice president and top aides including Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Austan Goolsbee and Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough — is generally unheard of and reflects the administration’s desire to ensure its messages reach the country, particularly younger Americans who are a core constituency.

    “I think it’s a way of bringing people a little closer to decisions that get made here in Washington,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday when asked about the outreach.

    The first event took place Tuesday night after the State of the Union speech, when a panel of White House officials — National Economic Council Deputy Director Brian Deese, Special Assistant to the President for Education Policy Roberto Rodriguez and Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes — answered questions submitted via Twitter, Facebook and a live audience of young adults.

    In the hourlong session, which can be seen in a video posted at http://www.whitehouse.gov/SOTU, questions involved Obama’s economic proposals, policy issues such as education and clean energy, Sudan, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, North Korea and other subjects.

    Some questions were challenging, such as one that expressed skepticism at restoring the United States as a world leader in education, but in general, the inquiries indicated that participants were supporters of the administration instead of ideological opponents.

    When asked whether the United States would remain engaged in Sudan after the recent secession referendum in Southern Sudan, Rhodes called the question a good one for the forum of young people.

    He noted that the issue “simply would not have the attention it has” without pressure from young people, nongovernment organizations, religious groups and others.

    “We see it as a kind of bottom-up activism that can help advance a more responsible foreign policy of the United States” while also helping the people of Sudan, Rhodes said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/27/obama.youth.outreach/index.html?hpt=Sbin

  20. JANUARY 27, 2011

    A Presidency to Nowhere

    High-speed rail and solar shingles are not the answer to America’s “Sputnik moment.”

    By DANIEL HENNINGER

    No president before Barack Obama has been so right and so wrong.

    When in his State of the Union speech Mr. Obama said, “This is our generation’s Sputnik moment,” citing the emergence of global competition from the likes of China and India, he was right.

    Minutes later he proposed to cover the country with high-speed rail and companies making solar shingles.

    High-speed rail and solar shingles? If that’s the president’s idea of meeting our Sputnik moment, then Houston, we have a problem.

    About halfway into the speech, I began to wonder: What is John Boehner thinking? Let’s first welcome back the tradition of House Speakers who bring nothing but a poker face to the State of the Union. (The vice president re-tightening his tie in the middle of the speech was a minor Biden classic.)

    I’m guessing that about the time the president was calling investments in clean energy “the Apollo projects of our time,” the new Speaker was thinking: “This is bunk,” or some word to that effect.

    That probably wasn’t Mr. Boehner’s first thought. Before the bunk arrived, his first thought was: “We’re in trouble.”

    If Barack Obama had come even close to matching policies with the sentiments he spun across the House chamber in the first sections of that speech, the Republicans would have been dealing with a formidable new centrist president.

    The speech’s prelude could have been delivered by Ronald Reagan or written by the conservative entrepreneurial Utopian George Gilder.

    When in his State of the Union speech Mr. Obama said, “This is our generation’s Sputnik moment,” citing the emergence of global competition from the likes of China and India, he was right.

    Minutes later he proposed to cover the country with high-speed rail and companies making solar shingles.

    High-speed rail and solar shingles? If that’s the president’s idea of meeting our Sputnik moment, then Houston, we have a problem.

    About halfway into the speech, I began to wonder: What is John Boehner thinking? Let’s first welcome back the tradition of House Speakers who bring nothing but a poker face to the State of the Union. (The vice president re-tightening his tie in the middle of the speech was a minor Biden classic.)

    I’m guessing that about the time the president was calling investments in clean energy “the Apollo projects of our time,” the new Speaker was thinking: “This is bunk,” or some word to that effect.

    That probably wasn’t Mr. Boehner’s first thought. Before the bunk arrived, his first thought was: “We’re in trouble.”

    If Barack Obama had come even close to matching policies with the sentiments he spun across the House chamber in the first sections of that speech, the Republicans would have been dealing with a formidable new centrist president.

    The speech’s prelude could have been delivered by Ronald Reagan or written by the conservative entrepreneurial Utopian George Gilder.

    In a single generation, “the rules have changed,” he said, propelled by technology. “The naysayers predicting our decline” are wrong. When moments later Mr. Obama said, “We are the first nation to be founded for the sake of an idea,” one felt the ghost of the Gipper hovering nearby. The president called forth more of those spirits, praising “the idea that each of us deserves the chance to shape our own destiny. That’s why centuries of pioneers and immigrants have risked everything to come here.”

    And: “We need to out-innovate, out-educate, and out-build the rest of the world.” Yes!

    And: “Our free enterprise system is what drives innovation.” Oh, yes!

    Even an Obama naysayer was thinking, Go for it, Mr. President. Unleash our nation of pioneer entrepreneurs with incentives to work, save and invest. (But why the weird slap at the all-American competitiveness of the Super Bowl?)

    For a while Tuesday night, it appeared Mr. Obama would replicate Bill Clinton’s almost sci-fi ability to absorb his opposition’s best ideas, such as welfare reform, and re-infuse them into the body politic as his own. But no. We got high-speed rail and solar shingles.

    Barack Obama believes what he believes. The ideas he came in with are the ideas he will go out with, and nowhere in that speech was there a fully formed policy idea reflecting authentic belief in the private economy.

    The recently promised and much-needed regulatory review was offset with a paean to regulation. “It’s why we have speed limits.” He somehow felt compelled to tell productive suburban families that he’ll try to rescind the tax cut for them, the $250,000 “millionaires.”

    Once past the Reagan moment, the Obama policy menu had three entrees: clean energy, education and infrastructure. This was lifted, almost verbatim, from the Obama budget message two months into his presidency: “Our budget will make long overdue investments in priorities—like clean energy, education, health care, and new infrastructure.” He extolled “new jobs that pay well” such as “installing solar energy panels and wind turbines.”

    This isn’t a vision. It’s an obsession.

    Sending the completed trade agreements with Colombia and Panama to Congress for ratification should have been a lay-up for a president seeking the center. That’s not happening.

    What’s ahead? Mainly one thing: November 2012.

    If the State of the Union disappointed policy wonks, it’s because the Obama presidency has entered full campaign mode. His State of the Union was a road map to a second term. Draw the Republican Congress toward the post-November spirit of reform on spending, entitlements and taxes, let these ideas twist in the wind of endless negotiation, pocket the “bipartisan” effort, and run out the clock to a three-point November victory.

    Then what?

    After ObamaCare and financial re-regulation, the remaining Obama years are looking like a presidency to nowhere. Even if you believe in green jobs, that’s an industry off in the future. Beyond the Keynesian liniment oil of public spending, he’s offering almost nothing for the here-and-now economy.

    Rep. Paul Ryan, in his response, was right that “our nation is approaching a tipping point.” Either the government leads the economy, as proposed in the last two-thirds of Mr. Obama’s State of the Union, or it will be driven into the 21st century by the nation’s pioneer legacy of individual innovation, as he seemed to say in the first third of the speech.

    If you believe it’s the latter, six more years of chasing Mr. Obama’s idea of investments will be a waste of precious time. The Super Bowl of global competition is well into the first quarter. The future is now.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703293204576106234062909502.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

  21. http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8150000/newsid_8159700/8159738.stm

    In 1969 American astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first person to walk on the Moon.

    It was an amazing achievement, and not just for the obvious reasons.

    Today, we’re still using things that were developed in the Apollo Moon programme.

    Trainers

    Every time you go out running, you could say you’re moonwalking.

    That’s because the cushioned soles in most trainers are made of padded material that was made for space suits!

    Water

    Do you use a water filter at home? You could be drinking some history.

    The filters are based on technology developed to recycle some of the astronauts’ bodily fluids – their wee – during the long trip to the Moon and back.

    Baby milk

    Baby drinking milk

    Lots of babies drink milk formula. It’s full of something called protein, which helps them grow.

    And it’s based on the concentrated, rich drinks given to astronauts. They contained lots of protein in a small space making them ideal for cramped space ships.

    Computers

    All our computers use circuits. In 1963, more than half of all computer circuits were being developed for the Moon missions.

    That means they drove forward advances in technology which are used in MP3 players, phones or anything which uses computers today.

    The environment

    The Earth from the Moon

    For the first time, people saw the whole of the Earth. Photos of the globe were popular, and changed the way we thought of our home planet.

    Seeing all of it at once made people realise how small and fragile it is, kick-starting the environmental movement.

    People began to think of the planet as something that needed to be protected and saved.

  22. A real President, JFK, answers “Why?”

    http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/jfk-space.htm

    On a very hot late summer’s day in 1962, President Kennedy visited Rice University in Houston, Texas, and gave this speech outdoors in the football stadium. The President spoke in philosophical terms about the need to solve the mysteries of space, reaffirmed America’s commitment to landing a man on the moon before the end of the 1960s and also defended the enormous expense of the space program. Along the way, the President made humorous mentions of the Rice-Texas football rivalry and the blazingly hot weather.

    Listen to the entire speech

    President Pitzer, Mr. Vice President, Governor, Congressman Thomas, Senator Wiley, and Congressman Miller, Mr. Webb, Mr. Bell, scientists, distinguished guests, and ladies and gentlemen:

    I appreciate your president having made me an honorary visiting professor, and I will assure you that my first lecture will be very brief.

    I am delighted to be here and I’m particularly delighted to be here on this occasion.

    We meet at a college noted for knowledge, in a city noted for progress, in a state noted for strength, and we stand in need of all three, for we meet in an hour of change and challenge, in a decade of hope and fear, in an age of both knowledge and ignorance. The greater our knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds.

    Despite the striking fact that most of the scientists that the world has ever known are alive and working today, despite the fact that this Nation’s own scientific manpower is doubling every 12 years in a rate of growth more than three times that of our population as a whole, despite that, the vast stretches of the unknown and the unanswered and the unfinished still far outstrip our collective comprehension.

    No man can fully grasp how far and how fast we have come, but condense, if you will, the 50,000 years of man’s recorded history in a time span of but a half-century. Stated in these terms, we know very little about the first 40 years, except at the end of them advanced man had learned to use the skins of animals to cover them. Then about 10 years ago, under this standard, man emerged from his caves to construct other kinds of shelter. Only five years ago man learned to write and use a cart with wheels. Christianity began less than two years ago. The printing press came this year, and then less than two months ago, during this whole 50-year span of human history, the steam engine provided a new source of power. Newton explored the meaning of gravity. Last month electric lights and telephones and automobiles and airplanes became available. Only last week did we develop penicillin and television and nuclear power, and now if America’s new spacecraft succeeds in reaching Venus, we will have literally reached the stars before midnight tonight.

    This is a breathtaking pace, and such a pace cannot help but create new ills as it dispels old, new ignorance, new problems, new dangers. Surely the opening vistas of space promise high costs and hardships, as well as high reward.

    So it is not surprising that some would have us stay where we are a little longer to rest, to wait. But this city of Houston, this state of Texas, this country of the United States was not built by those who waited and rested and wished to look behind them. This country was conquered by those who moved forward–and so will space.

    William Bradford, speaking in 1630 of the founding of the Plymouth Bay Colony, said that all great and honorable actions are accompanied with great difficulties, and both must be enterprised and overcome with answerable courage.

    If this capsule history of our progress teaches us anything, it is that man, in his quest for knowledge and progress, is determined and cannot be deterred. The exploration of space will go ahead, whether we join in it or not, and it is one of the great adventures of all time, and no nation which expects to be the leader of other nations can expect to stay behind in this race for space.

    Those who came before us made certain that this country rode the first waves of the industrial revolution, the first waves of modern invention, and the first wave of nuclear power, and this generation does not intend to founder in the backwash of the coming age of space. We mean to be a part of it–we mean to lead it. For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding.

    Yet the vows of this Nation can only be fulfilled if we in this Nation are first, and, therefore, we intend to be first. In short, our leadership in science and industry, our hopes for peace and security, our obligations to ourselves as well as others, all require us to make this effort, to solve these mysteries, to solve them for the good of all men, and to become the world’s leading space-faring nation.

    We set sail on this new sea because there is new knowledge to be gained, and new rights to be won, and they must be won and used for the progress of all people. For space science, like nuclear science and all technology, has no conscience of its own. Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man, and only if the United States occupies a position of pre-eminence can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of peace or a new terrifying theater of war. I do not say that we should or will go unprotected against the hostile misuse of space any more than we go unprotected against the hostile use of land or sea, but I do say that space can be explored and mastered without feeding the fires of war, without repeating the mistakes that man has made in extending his writ around this globe of ours.

    There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet. Its hazards are hostile to us all. Its conquest deserves the best of all mankind, and its opportunity for peaceful cooperation many never come again. But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?

    We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

    It is for these reasons that I regard the decision last year to shift our efforts in space from low to high gear as among the most important decisions that will be made during my incumbency in the office of the Presidency.

    In the last 24 hours we have seen facilities now being created for the greatest and most complex exploration in man’s history. We have felt the ground shake and the air shattered by the testing of a Saturn C-1 booster rocket, many times as powerful as the Atlas which launched John Glenn, generating power equivalent to 10,000 automobiles with their accelerators on the floor. We have seen the site where five F-1 rocket engines, each one as powerful as all eight engines of the Saturn combined, will be clustered together to make the advanced Saturn missile, assembled in a new building to be built at Cape Canaveral as tall as a 48 story structure, as wide as a city block, and as long as two lengths of this field.

    Within these last 19 months at least 45 satellites have circled the earth. Some 40 of them were made in the United States of America and they were far more sophisticated and supplied far more knowledge to the people of the world than those of the Soviet Union.

    The Mariner spacecraft now on its way to Venus is the most intricate instrument in the history of space science. The accuracy of that shot is comparable to firing a missile from Cape Canaveral and dropping it in this stadium between the 40-yard lines.

    Transit satellites are helping our ships at sea to steer a safer course. Tiros satellites have given us unprecedented warnings of hurricanes and storms, and will do the same for forest fires and icebergs.

    We have had our failures, but so have others, even if they do not admit them. And they may be less public.

    To be sure, we are behind, and will be behind for some time in manned flight. But we do not intend to stay behind, and in this decade, we shall make up and move ahead.

    The growth of our science and education will be enriched by new knowledge of our universe and environment, by new techniques of learning and mapping and observation, by new tools and computers for industry, medicine, the home as well as the school. Technical institutions, such as Rice, will reap the harvest of these gains.

    And finally, the space effort itself, while still in its infancy, has already created a great number of new companies, and tens of thousands of new jobs. Space and related industries are generating new demands in investment and skilled personnel, and this city and this state, and this region, will share greatly in this growth. What was once the furthest outpost on the old frontier of the West will be the furthest outpost on the new frontier of science and space. Houston, your city of Houston, with its Manned Spacecraft Center, will become the heart of a large scientific and engineering community. During the next 5 years the National Aeronautics and Space Administration expects to double the number of scientists and engineers in this area, to increase its outlays for salaries and expenses to $60 million a year; to invest some $200 million in plant and laboratory facilities; and to direct or contract for new space efforts over $1 billion from this center in this city.

    To be sure, all this costs us all a good deal of money. This year’s space budget is three times what it was in January 1961, and it is greater than the space budget of the previous eight years combined. That budget now stands at $5,400 million a year–a staggering sum, though somewhat less than we pay for cigarettes and cigars every year. Space expenditures will soon rise some more, from 40 cents per person per week to more than 50 cents a week for every man, woman and child in the United States, for we have given this program a high national priority–even though I realize that this is in some measure an act of faith and vision, for we do not now know what benefits await us. But if I were to say, my fellow citizens, that we shall send to the moon, 240,000 miles away from the control station in Houston, a giant rocket more than 300 feet tall, the length of this football field, made of new metal alloys, some of which have not yet been invented, capable of standing heat and stresses several times more than have ever been experienced, fitted together with a precision better than the finest watch, carrying all the equipment needed for propulsion, guidance, control, communications, food and survival, on an untried mission, to an unknown celestial body, and then return it safely to earth, re-entering the atmosphere at speeds of over 25,000 miles per hour, causing heat about half that of the temperature of the sun–almost as hot as it is here today–and do all this, and do it right, and do it first before this decade is out–then we must be bold.

    I’m the one who is doing all the work, so we just want you to stay cool for a minute. [laughter]

    However, I think we’re going to do it, and I think that we must pay what needs to be paid. I don’t think we ought to waste any money, but I think we ought to do the job. And this will be done in the decade of the Sixties. It may be done while some of you are still here at school at this college and university. It will be done during the terms of office of some of the people who sit here on this platform. But it will be done. And it will be done before the end of this decade.

    And I am delighted that this university is playing a part in putting a man on the moon as part of a great national effort of the United States of America.

    Many years ago the great British explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want to climb it. He said, “Because it is there.”

    Well, space is there, and we’re going to climb it, and the moon and the planets are there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are there. And, therefore, as we set sail we ask God’s blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has ever embarked.

    Thank you.

    President John F. Kennedy – September 12, 1962

  23. Sure, we got lots of spin-offs from NASA. If we put that much money into green energy, we’d get spin-offs there too.

    The only thing in your list that really came from the moon, is “People began to think of the planet as something that needed to be protected and saved.”

    And solar shingles are the way to do that.

  24. JFK showed us how a massive government-funded project can work. Fine, let’s do that again, with what we need now: clean energy, cleaning up pollution, etc.

    Spin-offs go in both directions. Energy research will have spin-offs too — which may make further space projects practical.

  25. Brilliant post. Clear cogent and convincing. It is so good that big media will bury it. The actor John Houseman once did a Wall Street commercial asking the rhetorical question how do you measure success. Big media measures success by its ability to print lies and drive poll numbers. They do not tell us what is happening in the world. As for Gelb, he screwed the pooch long ago when he knew Obama was a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen and held his tongue. Utterly disgusting.

    The realpolitic of the matter is this: prior to Obama, the United States was still the most powerful nation in the world, and was therefore able to exert its will on the rest of the world. Foreign relations among nations revolved around that axis. Nonetheless, the signs of geriatric disease were present. Indeed, some of the wiser students realized that the next phase in history would be multi-polar, for reasons which are now obvious.

    When that is the case, a smooth transition of power is essential, and depending upon how it is structured it can definitely work. Hillary and Bill could have maintained US strength and credibility in the world, while transitioning to a new stable order wherein the US was not the sole superpower, but primus inter pares.

    What we got with Mr. Obama, however, was a cloud cuckooland view of the world, and a great reluctance to make any decision which would entail a projection of American power. At a personal level, he lacks gravitas, and our enemies can smell fear in Obama because he wreaks of it. They are connoisseurs of power and they know an easy mark when they see one.

    His failure to support the Iranian revolution and his acquiescence to dictators was indeed a defining moment. That is when the world seemed to catch on. You had on the one hand his Cairo speech which was an invocation to the forces of democracy in the Middle East, but when they answered his call he turned his back and abandoned them to their executions.

    Where was that fucking Gelb while this was going on?????????????????????????????????????? He is so smart. Oh thats right he is with NYT and they do not criticize Obama. It is contra bonus mores and detrimental to their paystub. I am not saying this is easy. It isn’t. But every interest of the United States, the west, Israel—and Egypt depended on toppling the Iranian regime and we had the means to do it. China and Russia played Obama like a fiddle. And he blinked.

    But the real tell came at the beginning of his presidency when he could not give the order to shoot the captors of the hostages. He was so bad in that instance that a blacked out Seal went on CNN and in a disguised voice made it very clear that the reason the military had not acted was because no order had been given by the White House. Shortly thereafter, Obama was forced to give the order. If you were a Chinese military planner studying your adversary so you can predict how he is likely to react in future confrontation, that single episode told you everything you needed to know about the man.

    Getting back to the central point, the world needs a smooth transition from a unilateral to a multilateral arrangement. If it is done too abruptly, it can result in chaos. If the superpower lacks the will to act like a superpower and shrinks from the challenge then the transition will not be smooth and the end result will be chaos.

    Harry Reid has been kind enough to instruct us that China is a dictatorship. And here we thought Tianamin Square was just another version of summer fun at Wildwood New Jersey or Fort Lauderdale, sun fun and no chaperones les bon temps roule. Well, doctor obvious is right. And it there is one thing dictators despise and take advantage of his weakness–and nations who are in a state of decline due to the coward they chose to be their leader. That is why they played a the Quelo of the Korean War to humilate Obama and the country he took an oath to represent.

  26. turndownobama
    January 28th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
    JFK showed us how a massive government-funded project can work. Fine, let’s do that again, with what we need now: clean energy, cleaning up pollution, etc.
    ————–

    The problem is that we have already spent hundreds of times over what the entire Apollo program cost on “green projects”, and they DO NOT WORK. A lot of them are great for small-scale applications, but none have the potential to realistically meet our energy needs in a cost-effective way.

    The only source of power that has a chance in hell of actually replacing oil would be nuclear power. The stickler for that is what to do with the waste. I’d love to see an Apollo style or Manhattan Project style effort by the govt to solve that problem.

    But you’d have to do it the way those projects were done – i.e. provide the backing and the money and then get the hell out of the way. No 157 new agencies, no 3000 pages of regulation as to how to do it, favors for this and that lobbyist, this and that political crony, tying the program up in bureaucracy before it even gets off the ground. Just get the best scientists together, give them the money and the backing, and say “We need a safe nuclear power. Make it happen.”

  27. The original apollo project cost less than ONE SEVENTH (and that’s adjusted for inflation) of what we spent on the first stimulus alone.

    The problem isn’t that we need to spend more money. The problem is that our govt has lost the art of spending in an efficient and targeted way, with a minimum of bureaucracy. They keep pissing away every damn dime we give them.

  28. Admin: Thanks for posting that speech of JFK’s, it was moving…to bad the fraud is nowhere near doing a speech like that…all those that say he can…haven’t listened to this one in a long, long time.

  29. Late Sat. morning here where I live; just beginning to have some free time from demands of work. Found what appears to be a good article on Egypt, including useful links (Al Jazeera’s live video feed from Cairo, the Guardian continuous live-blogging of the events). Then I look here at the big pink to see if Egypt is being discussed and find the above spot-on article.

    This seems good, although I’m embarrassed to admit I don’t know the author:
    Egypt Rising: Washington Dithers as its Factotum Faces Downfall – by Chris Floyd, Friday, 28 January 2011 13:31
    h w chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2080-egypt-rising-washington-dithers-as-its-factotum-faces-downfall.html#disqus_thread

    One more thing separately below.

  30. Apparently, the majority of the American electorate has forgotten that Saturday Night Live skit where Obama appears with the Chinese “dicatator” and Obama is forced to . . well you know. Now that is how he is viewed by the world. No ability to confront when vital interests are at stake. An easy mark, a shill, a push over.

  31. The thing to remember about the JFK moon effort is that it was a coordinated effort.

    Not only was there investment in direct space technology but there was also investment in engineering schools and students to get a science education. When JFK spoke you could understand in detail what the difficulties were and how the effort would impact all aspects of American life. JFK also discussed the foreign policy implications. He discussed the economic costs and the effects on business and how satellites would shape our present and our future. JFK’s was not a misty vision but one based on a vision of America as a world leader for freedom.

  32. Egypt Rising: Washington Dithers
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    That is a grand word to describe Obama–“dithers”. Whenever there is a crisis that is what he does. Even with the Tucson incident we heard nothing of substance from him for how long–five days?

  33. admin
    January 28th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
    A real President, JFK, answers “Why?”
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    A great president alright. Hard to believe his brother was a ner do well named Teddy.

  34. h4t, in Germany home roof solar is working so well that they’re trying to slow down installation because they would have to build better grids to carry the excess electricity generated on the home roofs.

    Pls beware of GOP and fossil fuel talking points — based on GOP and polluters’ sabotage of clean energy projects. Palin is shooting, er, aiming, er hoping for some large proportion of Alaska’s energy to come from clean sources; cite at pumaforpalin.blogspot.com iirc.

    —-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324264/Too-solar-power-overload-national-grid-warns-German-energy-expert.html#ixzz1COlHj1IF
    The move to push people into installing rooftop solar panels has been hugely successful in Germany with citizens encouraged to fit the panels and then sell any surplus power back to the national grid.
    [….]
    A German expert has warned that surges from solar power could take down power grids
    ‘The network is facing a congestion due to solar power,’ Kohler told the Berliner Zeitung newspaper. ‘That’s why the expansion of solar power has to be cut back quickly and drastically.’
    [….]
    Experts forecast between 8 gigawatts and 10 GW of solar power capacity to be installed this year – the equivalent of roughly 10 large coal-fired power plants. In 2009, only 4 GW were installed.
    If the current trends continue, experts expect Germany would have a solar power capacity of nearly 50 GW by 2013.

  35. The thing to remember about the JFK moon effort is that it was a coordinated effort.

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    There may have been some waste and false starts around the edges of JFK’s space program that we don’t hear about. And supplying energy to many different areas can be done in many different ways, so our current project doesn’t have to be quite so co-ordinated.

    But intelligent and sincere direction is needed. Which clean energy has seldom gotten from a president — certainly not from Obama (nor the Bushes).

  36. turndown, I’m well aware of the german solar story. You cannot run trucking, and industry, and mining, etc. on solar panels.

    And those solar panels on homes are HEAVILY govt-subsidized. If you took the govt money away, they might not even pay for themselves. And do not give me the “all opposition to green energy is just propaganda financed by petroleum” crap. Because major corporations with sweet govt deals that stand to make billions and billions in “green” products are pouring more money into the info wars than the oil companies are. If you think that it’s all being funded by starry-eyed altruists out to save the planet, you are wrong.

    I am an adult. I read. Lots of sources. I digest. I have a brain. I can sift and sort and decide for myself. I don’t need to be warned about talking points, thanks.

  37. Because major corporations with sweet govt deals that stand to make billions and billions in “green” products are pouring more money into the info wars than the oil companies are.

    =================

    What is your source for comparative dollars on that?

  38. The solar industry in Germany is a bit panicked that the govt may be withdrawing some of the heavy subsidies.

    “These excessive subsidy cuts are threatening one of our country’s most important job and economic motors,” BSW President Guenther Cramer said.

    According to BSW figures, Germany’s solar sector had a turnover of around 10 billion euros ($14.1 billion) in 2009, and employs some 60,000 people. Germany’s generous incentives have kept the country at the forefront of the solar industry; now, some experts worry that this will no longer be the case. They predict an emigration of leading solar technology companies, more bankruptcies and weakened investor confidence.

    “The cuts which have now been proposed are shaking the very foundations of Germany’s solar industry,” said the Federal Association of Renewable Energies (BEE) President Dietmar Schuetz. “If the environment minister wants to realize his ambitious goal of having Germany be almost completely reliant on renewables by 2050, he has to ensure that stable subsidies are in place, instead of creating uncertainty for investors.”

    See, the issue isn’t just whether the solar panels can generate enough electricity for a house. The issue is also what is the cost to manufacture, install, and service it. “Green technology” would be nonexistent if not HEAVILY subsidized by the govt. I’m not talking about govt money to develop it. I’m talking about it has to have constant influx of tax dollars while in use. Take away the extra money the govt pours in, and every one of those solar panel companies will go bankrupt. Because it may be green, but it is NOT a cost-effective technology. For a reliable energy source, it has to cost less to use than it does to make.

    The solar companies are panicking at the very idea of not ENDING the subsidies, but just cutting them back a bit. Because they know damn well that they cannot produce those panels at anything other than a loss unless the govt pads the balance sheet for them.

  39. Predictably, I look to see what LPAC’s latest on Egypt is…

    International Solution Proposed [by FDR Democrat]

    Opposition to Mubarak has called for mass demonstrations on Friday, and the government has issued an order to keep order on the streets and suppress the demonstrators. The protests have been peaceful, but the threat of violence from the government forces is a serious danger.

    The source emphasized the rapid tempo of the developments — far faster and wider than anyone anticipated. And the situation further escalated with the return on Thursday of Dr. Mohammad El Baradei, former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), who had been welcomed home to Egypt in late 2009 as a potential Presidential candidate–but was then excluded from running because he does not belong to a political party, as required by law.

    Writing in the U.S. web publication, the Daily Beast, on Jan. 27, El Baradei said he would participate in the demonstrations, and used the strongest language since returning to Egypt in 2009.

    I have hoped to find a way toward change through peaceful means. In a country like Egypt, its not easy to get people to put down their names and government ID numbers on a document calling for fundamental democratic reforms, yet a million people have done just that. The regime, like the monkey that sees nothing and hears nothing, simply ignored us.

    As a result, the young people of Egypt have lost patience, and what you’ve seen in the streets these last few days has all been organized by them. I have been out of Egypt because that is the only way I can be heard. I have been totally cut off from the local media when I am there. But I am going back to Cairo, and back onto the streets… [Y]ou hope things will not turn ugly, but so far, the regime does not seem to have gotten that message.

    On Jan. 27, El Baradei held an informal press conference on arriving at the Cairo airport. The London Guardian reported:

    This is a critical time in the life of Egypt, and I have come to participate with the Egyptian people.

    If people — in particular young people — if they want me to lead the transition, I will not let them down. My priority right now…is to see a new regime and to see a new Egypt through peaceful transition.

    I advise the government to listen to the people and not to use violence. There’s no going back. I hope the regime stops violence, stops detaining people, stops torturing people. This will be completely counterproductive.

    But, Lyndon LaRouche warned in comments to a private meeting in Washington, that the unrest of populations in the Middle East and elsewhere is not a result of specific countries’ circumstances, but comes from the global collapse.

    “There is no government on the planet today,” said LaRouche, “which is capable by itself of controlling its destiny,” until the [elite financier financial monetary] Empire’s control of the world financial system is ended.

    Citing Tunisia, he asked, “What can Middle East countries do? What can any part of the world do by itself? The question is, “Is the … Empire going to continue to bring this chaos down upon us, on us all?”

    “Is Tunisia an isolated event based on Ben Ali? No! Absolutely not. It’s a chain-reaction effect, throughout the entire Maghreb and beyond, the Middle East, and everywhere. The whole world is ready to blow up.”

    LaRouche’s lengthy opening statement [transcript: h w larouchepac.com/node/17348] to the meeting advised all sovereign nations like Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen–which is experiencing a round of mass street demonstrations today–to join him in busting up the … Empire system, and implementing a new financial order using the Glass-Steagall banking standard for which he is leading the fight in the United States. [E.g. Based on the principle of the general welfare instead of usury and geopolitical manipulations by the elite. As a first step, get their murderous grasping hands out of necessary banking and financial exchanges–and their fictitious unpayable debts too. Out!]

    As far as I can see, this is the realistic solution to all this, and real leadership. He said, in 2007, that the situation, worldwide, was about to blow up. He put forth a motion, a Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, which was widely supported in the U.S. [Have a look at the list: http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showComment.do?commentId=18067%5D A lot of corrupt muscle was put into preventing the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act from enactment. Had it occurred, we would not be in the present mess. The entire bailout process was a fraud! There was never any legitimacy, or need, for the bailout of the financial empire! Enough. Damn them to hell.

  40. And those solar panels on homes are HEAVILY govt-subsidized. If you took the govt money away, they might not even pay for themselves.

    ===================

    You mean they’d stop transmitting enough power to overload the grid?

    Cost of the panels vs current price of electricity is not the point. Cost will go down with more research and quantity production.

    Solar and other devices do work fine in many applications already. Exceptions do not justify a sweeping statement like “They don’t work” — which suggests that no such device can ever work in any application, as you might say of perpetual motion machines.

  41. Morris’s take on Obama’s State of the Union, in case you have not seen it. I do not agree with everything in it, but it is encouraging that he sees a great shrinking Obama who will lose in 2012.
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    OBAMA SPEECH SHOWS HE’S OUT OF TOUCH

    By DICK MORRIS

    Published on TheHill.com on January 26, 2011

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    Henry Kissinger, in his memoir of the Ford administration, Years of Upheaval, articulated the central rule of governing: “It is a statesman’s duty to bridge the gap between his nation’s experience and his vision. If his vision gets too far out ahead of his nation’s experience, he will lose his mandate. But if he hews too close to the conventional, he will lose control over events.”

    Obama has gone from the first of these dangers to the second.

    In his first two years in office, he was manifestly so far removed from America’s experience and ideals that he lost the election of 2010. His big spending, overregulation, government takeovers and bailouts and healthcare program cost him his mandate. But, in his State of the Union speech, he hewed so close to the conventional that he will now lose control over events.

    His speech marks the real end of his presidency and the ascendancy of congressional government led by the House Republican agenda.

    A president’s major power is his ability to set the national agenda. But Obama’s State of the Union agenda was so boring, mundane, conventional and recycled that it will not capture either the national imagination or even center stage. It cannot drown out the drama of Republican efforts to slash spending, repeal ObamaCare, roll back federal regulations, block carbon taxes, kill union card-check and free community banks from regulatory paralysis. The ball is now in the Republicans’ court.

    The central mission of the Clinton comeback was to eradicate the memory and record of 1993-94. The compelling agenda spelled out by the president captured the nation’s attention and blotted out his early failures. Welfare reform, deficit reduction, tobacco regulation and Clinton’s second two-year agenda stole the stage from health care, gays in the military, Waco and the Clinton tax increases.

    But as the Republicans repeal or defund the discredited Obama programs of 2009-10, they will assure that these failed initiatives dominate the election of 2012. If Obama opts for stalemate — his only alternative to surrender if the GOP holds firm — he will just prolong the shelf life of these issues and assure that they will provide the issues in 2012 — to his detriment.

    On another level, Obama’s speech was a plea for a second chance. But his opposition to the Republican agenda will belie his moderation and will show it to be the same sleight of hand as was his vague embrace of change during his presidential campaign. Americans believe in the old adage: “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” They will give a president a second chance, but not a third one.

    In the meantime, a star was born in the Republican reply delivered by Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan. His articulation of conservative principles was the clearest and most compelling I have heard since Ronald Reagan. The force of his delivery, the reasonableness of his manner and the positive tone with which he undermined and discredited Obama’s program were all admirable. When he said that the president’s spending programs were “stimulus repackaged as investments” he rebutted the bulk of the president’s speech. Ryan, who swears he won’t run for president, may find himself drafted.

    Obama’s proclamation that he had “broken the back of the recession” will inspire howls of disbelief and ridicule throughout the nation. With 9 percent-plus unemployment, how can a president say these words with a straight face?

    To Obama’s credit, this was the first pro-American speech he has given, embracing American exceptionalism, celebrating the American Dream and honoring our servicemen and women — boilerplate for any other president, but unusual for this one. His calls for recruiters to be allowed on campus, his rejection of earmarks and pledge to veto them and his embrace of medical malpractice reform were the only good points in his speech.

    This speech was not enough to save this presidency.

  42. Oh, please, turndown. Read up on the Chicago Climate Exchange. Read up on GE’s cushy govt contracts totaling in the billions for everything from windfarms to high speed rail. There is tons of money to be made in green energy projects and carbon credit swapping. And where there is money to be made, there are vested interests – just like there are for oil.

    I’m not saying the oil companies are daisy-fresh and innocent. Nor am I opposed to less pollution and renewable energy. But to think that there is not billions at stake and propaganda from all sides is just naive. Kind of sweet, but still naive.

  43. Bull, turndown. I never claimed they never worked in any application at all. I merely said that they were not going to replace oil as a viable source for an entire world’s energy needs, heavy industry, etc.

  44. Sure there’s some propoganda from both sides. But to say that green businesses are “pouring more money into the info wars than the oil companies are” is a comparative statement that needs to be supported — and is extremely unlikely.

    Palin is scarcely a misty idealist, and she aims at supplying “50% of Alaska’s electric power needs through renewable energy resources by 2025.”

    That’s a long way from “They don’t work.”

    Here’s a little proportion about how much of our energy is ALREADY being produced clean:
    Right now Alaska gets 24% of its electric power generation from renewable resources, similar to California, which achieved about 23.5% renewable for its electric power supply. California lawmakers are currently developing legislation to increase this to 33% by 2020. While Alaska’s goal is stronger, it is not legally binding, as California’s would be.
    http://www.energyboom.com/policy/new-alaska-energy-plan-improves-upon-palin-original-still-maintains-oil-dependence

    Btw the figures above are based on our CURRENT and straightline projected energy consumptions — not a trick of raising the percentage by using less energy.

  45. h4t,

    I’m glad you don’t really believe what your words above said in ALL CAPS:

    “The problem is that we have already spent hundreds of times over what the entire Apollo program cost on “green projects”, and they DO NOT WORK. A lot of them are great for small-scale applications, but none have the potential to realistically meet our energy needs in a cost-effective way.”

    Palin’s 50% by 2025 is a potential not to be brushed off.

  46. HillaryforTexas
    January 29th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    … I’m well aware of the german solar story. You cannot run trucking, and industry, and mining, etc. on solar panels.

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    Thanks! and there’s something about fire departments having to let places with solar panels on the roof burn because of the danger to them of being electrocuted fighting the fire. Something to look into on the residential level.

  47. wbboei
    January 29th, 2011 at 1:02 am
    Morris’s take on Obama’s State of the Union, in case you have not seen it. I do not agree with everything in it, but it is encouraging that he sees a great shrinking Obama who will lose in 2012.
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    OBAMA SPEECH SHOWS HE’S OUT OF TOUCH

    By DICK MORRIS

    Published on TheHill.com on January 26, 2011
    ************************
    Sorry to disagree, wbboei. Morris also believed Repubs would take back the Senate in 2010. I also think Obama stands an excellent chance of being re-elected — particularly if the Republican field chooses from one of the 6 or 8 options being mentioned now. The ony who could knock him off the perch is Chris Christie — the male Palin in the outspoken and guts dept — and he’s not ready to run in 2012.

    If Palin dares to run, not only will the entire media and Dem power structure go to any lengths to destroy her, but the Repubs who have been “lurving” her gutsy message and hiding behind her skirts until now would show their true elitist colors and likewise do their part to bring her down. If you thought 2008 was bad, wait till you see Palin headlining a ticket. It will make the atrocity done to Hillary and later Palin in ’08 look like a knitting bee.

    There is also no way Hillary will primary Obama. Period. There would have to be a draft Hillary movement of ridiculous proportion in addition to the President having events so conspire against him that there is no way he would run again. Re-election is everything to him. Just as election was. That plus a billion dollars and a too gullible public will likely do the trick.

    His SOTU was the beginning of his 2012 campaign. I read an article this week that stated he was dumping the “austere cuts” agenda in the Republicans’ lap — i.e., let them take charge of the purse, make cuts that will piss the public off and turn them sour and then he can run against them. The Repubs will have to come up with a lot better than they have now…most of the ones in power now are also too chicken and beholden to special interests to do what is required.

    Dear Lord, I hope I am wrong. But in 2004, I didn’t think there was any way Pres. Bush could be re-elected either…

  48. The original apollo project cost less than ONE SEVENTH (and that’s adjusted for inflation) of what we spent on the first stimulus alone.

    The problem isn’t that we need to spend more money. The problem is that our govt has lost the art of spending in an efficient and targeted way, with a minimum of bureaucracy.

    =================

    I don’t think much of the stimulus money even pretended to be for actual green energy research and production. And what little was, was probably inefficiently administered.

    Tax plans labeled ‘green’ of course mean nothing.

  49. You cannot run trucking, and industry, and mining, etc. on solar panels.

    ================

    Other clean sources are practical for trucking, industry, and mining.

  50. Didja miss the part in the very next sentence when I said many are fine for small-scale applications? I qualified my “do not work” statement right from the start.

    And I never claimed that the stimulus was for green energy projects. I was merely comparing the effectiveness and frugality of govt spending then vs. now. They actually knew how to get bang for the buck back then.

  51. Sorry, but that really needed to be expressed better. And ‘small scale’ isn’t relevant anyway. It doesn’t matter how small each project is, if the total from all the projects adds up to even 20% or 30% of the total needs.

    I’ve been seeing a flat ‘They don’t work’ showing up in other contexts, where I don’t think you’d want to support it.

  52. ani
    January 29th, 2011 at 1:31 am
    ———————
    Ani–I am skeptical as you are, and certainly Morris has tended to underestimate the forces behind this fraud. He believed the Republicans would take back the senate as you say, but as it got closer to the election, he became more tentative. He predicted Angel would win in Nevada as did Rove. He predicted Hillary would win, he predicted 70-90 seat gain in the House. Nevertheless, he has a good instinct for trends and what needs to be done. That is different from forecasting. Much of my own thinking now is devoted not to how do we defeat Obama but how do we defeat big media–because without them, he would collapse completely. Whereas with them he has a powerful propaganda machine and a billion dollar wall of money which will turn chicken shit into chicken salad for the uninformed segment of the electorate.

  53. LJ is smoking on this one. Good stuff.
    ————————–
    And We Thought Carter Sucked! Obama’s Iran Moment
    By Larry Johnson on January 28, 2011 at 11:00 PM in Current Affairs

    This is bad and it is going to get worse. I am not just referring to the apparent collapse of the Mubarak regime in Egypt. Barack Obama and his not ready for prime time National Security team have done the equivalent of fumbling the ball in the end zone. Hell, we didn’t have to wait for his failure with a 3am phone call. He screwed the pooch with his 7pm est speech. Barack’s ill-conceived move tonight to give a public speech on Egypt that included a heaping helping of unsolicited advice and criticism may be embraced by some Egyptian protestors and may play well to an American domestic political audience but Obama is burning bridges with the leader of the country that has played a major role in keeping Israel safe during the last 30 years. WTF!!!

    H

    Here’s the speech in case you missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t378kcgRhEw

    How incredibly naive and arrogant can Obama be? This is worse than the idiotic moves of Jimmy Carter surrounding the collapse of the Shah? Why? The Shah going down the toilet did not carry the same threat of copy cat coups in other countries–Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait to mention just three–that increases the likelihood of extremist Islamic regimes coming to power.

    Hopefully you are not crazy enough to believe that there is an unseen corp of Egyptian democrats just waiting in the wings to fashion a western style democracy in Cairo. If you are then you must be an Obama supporter.

    Mubarak may ride this out and survive. I doubt it but I hope he does. But either way, Obama has not only discredited his influence in the Middle East with his stupid speech tonight but he is endangering our national security.

    If Mubarak falls ask yourself one simple question–will the new Egyptian leaders be willing to carry U.S. water in containing Hamas and protecting Israel’s western flank? The answer is not only no, but HELL NO. Egypt’s economy depends heavily on two components–tourism and U.S. aid. Do you think the U.S. Congress is going to pony up new billions to keep Egypt afloat if it is being led by the Muslim Brothers? Hell no!

    Obama should have kept his mouth shut and worked quietly behind the scenes to encourage Mubarak to go easy and find a peaceful way out of this. Instead Barack effectively emasculated Mubarak tonight and Mubarak will neither forget nor forgive the slight. Worse, the other leaders in the region–the King of Jordan, the Saudi royals and Saleh in Yemen–recognize that past loyalty to American means nothing. They will cut their own deals to save their skin and will have little interest in doing our bidding. This will be purely about self-preservation.

    There are four possible outcomes facing Egypt and the world.

    Outcome #1–A group of secular, young democrats emerge to take the reins of government and are backed enthusiastically by the Army. All is well.

    Outcome #2–Islamists loyal to the Muslim Brothers, backed by key elements of the Army, take control of the Egyptian Government.

    Outcome #3–A military coup. Civilian leaders are ousted and the military steps in to save the day. They happily crush all protests.

    Outcome #4–Civil war. The national government breaks down and centers of power emerge in different parts of the country. One thing is sure–terrorism and violence will spiral out of control in Egypt.

    I think Outcome #1 is about as likely as Obama producing his college transcripts and birth certificate. Ain’t going to happen.

    I have no prediction on the other three scenarios. Obama’s ill-advised speech tonight has opened Pandora’s box of political chaos. This is no velvet revolution. The Egyptians are not soft and fluffy like their famous cotton. They are a surly lot.

    Religious extremists of all shades will see their version of God’s hand in these moves. Don’t forget Bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman Zawahiri is an exiled Egyptian. He will certainly celebrate the demise of Mubarak and will do all in his power to promote the twisted version of Sharia law that has fueled his jihad against the West for more than 30 years.

    The country that will face the most immediate security threat is Israel. Even if Mubarak survives don’t expect Mubarak to be eager to incur further domestic wrath by working to help protect Israel. Ain’t going to happen. I can assure you that the Palestinians in Gaza are celebrating their potential deliverance tonight.

    I am watching in horror the reporters and pundits dominating the U.S. airwaves. They are naive, juvenile and devoid of any historical memory. They readily embrace the prospect of revolution in Egypt without pausing to consider the enormous, staggering ramifications of Mubarak’s fall. I can’t help but note the irony of the panic among Democrats at dealing with the innocuous threat of the Tea Party and in the same breath readily embrace the Anybody But Mubarak camp. I despair for this country.

    Like I said at the outset, this is going to be ugly. If you have family in Israel I would advise them to leave.

    How incredibly naive and arrogant can Obama be? This is worse than the idiotic moves of Jimmy Carter surrounding the collapse of the Shah? Why? The Shah going down the toilet did not carry the same threat of copy cat coups in other countries–Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait to mention just three–that increases the likelihood of extremist Islamic regimes coming to power.

    Hopefully you are not crazy enough to believe that there is an unseen corp of Egyptian democrats just waiting in the wings to fashion a western style democracy in Cairo. If you are then you must be an Obama supporter.

    Mubarak may ride this out and survive. I doubt it but I hope he does. But either way, Obama has not only discredited his influence in the Middle East with his stupid speech tonight but he is endangering our national security.

    If Mubarak falls ask yourself one simple question–will the new Egyptian leaders be willing to carry U.S. water in containing Hamas and protecting Israel’s western flank? The answer is not only no, but HELL NO. Egypt’s economy depends heavily on two components–tourism and U.S. aid. Do you think the U.S. Congress is going to pony up new billions to keep Egypt afloat if it is being led by the Muslim Brothers? Hell no!

    Obama should have kept his mouth shut and worked quietly behind the scenes to encourage Mubarak to go easy and find a peaceful way out of this. Instead Barack effectively emasculated Mubarak tonight and Mubarak will neither forget nor forgive the slight. Worse, the other leaders in the region–the King of Jordan, the Saudi royals and Saleh in Yemen–recognize that past loyalty to American means nothing. They will cut their own deals to save their skin and will have little interest in doing our bidding. This will be purely about self-preservation.

    There are four possible outcomes facing Egypt and the world.

    Outcome #1–A group of secular, young democrats emerge to take the reins of government and are backed enthusiastically by the Army. All is well.

    Outcome #2–Islamists loyal to the Muslim Brothers, backed by key elements of the Army, take control of the Egyptian Government.

    Outcome #3–A military coup. Civilian leaders are ousted and the military steps in to save the day. They happily crush all protests.

    Outcome #4–Civil war. The national government breaks down and centers of power emerge in different parts of the country. One thing is sure–terrorism and violence will spiral out of control in Egypt.

    I think Outcome #1 is about as likely as Obama producing his college transcripts and birth certificate. Ain’t going to happen.

    I have no prediction on the other three scenarios. Obama’s ill-advised speech tonight has opened Pandora’s box of political chaos. This is no velvet revolution. The Egyptians are not soft and fluffy like their famous cotton. They are a surly lot.

    Religious extremists of all shades will see their version of God’s hand in these moves. Don’t forget Bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman Zawahiri is an exiled Egyptian. He will certainly celebrate the demise of Mubarak and will do all in his power to promote the twisted version of Sharia law that has fueled his jihad against the West for more than 30 years.

    The country that will face the most immediate security threat is Israel. Even if Mubarak survives don’t expect Mubarak to be eager to incur further domestic wrath by working to help protect Israel. Ain’t going to happen. I can assure you that the Palestinians in Gaza are celebrating their potential deliverance tonight.

    I am watching in horror the reporters and pundits dominating the U.S. airwaves. They are naive, juvenile and devoid of any historical memory. They readily embrace the prospect of revolution in Egypt without pausing to consider the enormous, staggering ramifications of Mubarak’s fall. I can’t help but note the irony of the panic among Democrats at dealing with the innocuous threat of the Tea Party and in the same breath readily embrace the Anybody But Mubarak camp. I despair for this country.

    Like I said at the outset, this is going to be ugly. If you have family in Israel I would advise them to leave.

  54. Eisenhower made this mistake in Cuba when the Baptista Government fell. Carter made this mistake in Iran when the Shah fell. Messiah Obama made this mistake in Palestine and Hamas gained power. And now Messiah Obama is making it again in Egypt, telling Mubarack not to engage in violence to suppress this. Egypt is the fulcrum of stability in the Middle East. If you try to shoe horn democracy into places where it has never existed you get chaos and more often than not what emerges is an implacable enemy. Before you wish for democracy, make sure the end result will be something you can live with. To promote democracy purely for the sake of democracy is a fools errand. Which explains why Obama does it.

  55. Wbboei, the Larry Johnson article (“This is bad and it is going to get worse.”) is similar to a quote from “The Hunt For Red October” posted at Republican/conservative Ace of Spades:

    http://minx.cc/?post=311386

    Crazy day with all that is happening in Egypt this fine Friday. I couldn’t help but think of this quote today after seeing how the Obama Administration has responded so far (and not just to this incident either).

    Admiral Josh Painter: “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.

  56. wbboei
    January 29th, 2011 at 2:00 am

    Yes wbboei, completely agree with you about big media — they are the true culprits/enablers here and the whole house of cards would collapse without them…

  57. His SOTU was the beginning of his 2012 campaign. I read an article this week that stated he was dumping the “austere cuts” agenda in the Republicans’ lap — i.e., let them take charge of the purse, make cuts that will piss the public off and turn them sour and then he can run against them. The Repubs will have to come up with a lot better than they have now…most of the ones in power now are also too chicken and beholden to special interests to do what is required.
    —————————————————————————————-
    I think this whole thing will explode before 2012. I have no idea what the issue will be, but it will. I think the situation is way beyond blaming republicans for acting responsibly. I think a compelling case can be made that the fraud has acted irresponsibily. Events will take over. He is wrestling with a porcupine and there is no easy landing for him. Just quills. This middle east thing may do it. He is mishandling it horribly and he cannot control the outcome.

  58. Foreign Policy 101
    Harvard
    Instructor: Barack Hussein Obama (aks Faculty Lounge)

    Lesson 1: foreign policy is simply an extension of domestic politics.

    Lesson 2: disagreements with Republicans and the State of Arizona do not stop at the waters edge. They are to be aired and discussed with Red China, who can provide creative suggestions on how to suspend civil liberties.

    Lesson 3: any idiot know the lion will lie down with the lamb if he is not hungry. So feed the lion US dollars and he will behave. After all even the meanest creature deserves a second chance.

    Lesson 4: the American People do not deserve the protection of a border fence. But terrorists who aim to murder or have murdered American citizens deserve the full protection of the law and the Constitution when charged with mass murder.

    Lesson 5: be very tough on your allies when they are fighting for their survival. Insist that they play according to the Rules of Hoyle even though their enemies do not. Condescend to them incessantly. Preen before camera and demonstrate your moral superiority whenever you can.

    Lesson 6: be obsequious and apologetic to your enemies. Grab photo ops wherever you can. Pre-empt their criticism of the United States by seizing the moment and criticizing it more vociferously than they ever could. Ignore their furtive smiles and winks. Show them that you are a messiah, a global collossus who strattles the world and rises above any nation.

    Lesson 7: call in the boys from big media. Give them advance copies of your script. Note the applause lines. Send them press releases with directions to print them as is or else no access in the future. Flatter them by addressing them by their first name. Give them seats near the front if they are good. Invite them to parties if they are really good.

    Lesson 8: ignore election results. Do not listen to the American People. Did they go to Harvard? No. Were they given the no show job as President of the Harvard Law Review? No. Then what the fuck do they know.

    Lesson 9: learn how to do a deep bow without splitting the seat of your Saville Row trousers.

  59. President Obama: “All govts must maintain power thru consent, not coercion”

    can you believe the idiot said that considering his record…………

  60. Obama had 30 minute conversation with Mubarak according to WH Pool.

    ………………….

    Don’t you just think they added an extra 0 on the end to make it sound better. I bet it was like only 3 in reality, 0bama cant speak for 30 minutes unless it was all about him.

  61. Very, very scary situation in Egypt. Thank you, Admin for your post.

    I agree with your comments H4T on the solar panels. Also consider that both solar panels and wind turbines need rare earth metals to function, which we get from China. There has been huge environmental degradation to extract the rare earth metals, which are also finite.

    There are also the solar batteries which make the panels work to consider. How do we get rid of them so they don’t pollute our planet?

    It takes machines running on oil to extract those rare earth metals. Is the cost worth it?

    The only rare earth metal plant in the US is in Mountain Pass, CA which was closed, but which I hear is re-opening. Canada just found some up near Thunder Bay and in either the Yukon or NW Territories. However neither country has a refinery.

    So I’m curious Turndown, what do you suggest doing about these problems.

  62. BBC source: Explosion in a state security building in Rafah, Egypt, with a number of casualties (deaths and injuries)

  63. Interesting analysis. Not pleased he refers to Hillary as a henchman but i’m glad to see people realise Hillary is engaged in sorting things out and Obama is well… in hiding and frankly a wimp who votes present every time.

    http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/col-ralph-peters-challenges-obama-to-stop-hiding-behind-hillary-on-egypt-crisis

    Col. Ralph Peters challenges Obama to stop hiding behind Hillary on Egypt crisis

    Col. Ralph Peters challenges Obama to take charge of Egypt crisis, stop hiding behind Hillary. Every time there’s a crisis that involves an uprising somewhere on the planet (especially among the Arabs in the Middle East), it seems that Peters is Fox News’ go-to-guy for no-bull analysis on the subject. And so it was regarding the situation in Egypt, with Hosni Mubarak’s grip on power being severely challenged in several areas of the country. Appearing on The O’Reilly Factor, Peters had some pointed advice for Obama about what he should do to act in the US’ interests. First, the president should stop hiding behind his “henchmen,” the word he used when referring to Hillary Clinton, who seems to be more engaged on the situation than the president himself. And two, the colonel said Obama should stop with his annoying policy of “splitting the difference,” as in not being firmly committed to the winning side in the struggle.

    snip……

    So his advice is that he wants Obama—Aka, President On-The-Wrong-Side-of-History—to stop being so…what did he imply Obama was again? Oh yeah, tame and out to lunch! He asserted that the president has thus far always been putting up henchmen like Hillary and Robert Gibbs out there to talk about this situation. You could really hear the frustration in Peter’s voice as he condemned Obama for being a president who was obsessed with “splitting the difference” as he put it. Essentially, Obama never clearly supports one side in an upheaval situation such as the current one in Egypt; instead, he kind of sits on the sidelines and tries to support whatever side he thinks may win.

  64. I’ve copied parts of a comment from elsewhere. I’ve found posts from this commenter to be of value in the past.
    —————————-

    Charlie Rose on Jan 27, 2011 was interesting (the first half)North African (and Turkey, etc.) unrest.

    guests: Marc Lynch, Robert Malley and Emad Shahin

    Pointed out something I don’t recall ever hearing which was that the “islamist parties” are actually the “government designated opposition” — with all other opposition parties vigorously delegitimized — leaving the people with a “do you want peas or carrots?” choice between the status quo /or/ the islamists who are also largely deeply entrenched in the status quo, power structure.

    Leave most people with absolutely no meaningful way to engage their government. Opposition political organization outside of islamist flavor is simply not tolerated.

    “Social Media” — with it’s bulletin boards and flash crowd and (hard to censor / floating crap game ‘cloud’ quality) other organizing potential — in countries with massive censorship — is truly INNOVATIVE in ways that may be difficult for us to appreciate. [But of course could be used by those with evil intentions too – ohanson]

    MSNBC reports:

    Return of Mohamed El-Baradei, former U.N. nuclear watchdog, could give protesters a figurehead.

    Algeria and Yemen have been simmering and appear to also be approaching a boil.

  65. ohanson, i know, living here in Turkey, the opposition is useless, the islamists have a firm grip and it is not going to loosen, the latest polls have the AKP party on almost 49%, the main opposition parties have barely 40% between them and they will not co-operate, the opposition is effectively dead.

    We plan to move within a year or so i think, in 10 years, this place will be unrecognizable.

  66. FLASH: Al Jazeera TV reports about 1,000 Egyptians try to storm interior ministry in Cairo…Army opening fire on protestors….

    This is turning ugly.

  67. Moon,
    What is Mubarek doing? Is he still in power? If the Army is firing on the protestors, then the Army is with him, right?

  68. Confloyd, its a clusterfuck.

    This is a disaster of epic porportions, its getting worse by the hour. Some idiot on CNN just been saying Mubarak needs to come on and tell the people, he has listened and will promise fair elections……who the hell would believe him? Are these so called experts for real? Its real grasp a minute because these mid east so called experts have not got a fucking clue how this will pan out.

    I will tell what will happen, if Mubarak collapse without a clear succession, you will have a host of outside influences sweep in and it wont be pretty how this ends up.

  69. I just read (in a post labeled “1 day ago”) that police had cut water and power in Suez. Unconfirmed though.

    People are monitoring these events worldwide. Both links below have pretty up to the minute reports.

    www. guardian.co.uk/
    http: //english.aljazeera.net/indepth/spotlight/anger-in-egypt/

  70. Bambi must be pissed though, his flowery crap speech at the SOTU has been killed stone dead with knife in the heart from the middle east. If this craps out the way i think it will crap out, Obama can kiss his ass goodbye in 2012.

  71. Moon,
    Thanks for the info, I’m at work for 16 today, so I will be out of the loop, I’ll be keeping up with your posts today as this blog is not blocked yet.

    So it could be another theocracy….another Iran…the poor people of Israel…I can’t help but feel sorry for them!

    Netanyaho better be fueling up his fighter jets and loading some nuc’s on them, because he’s going to need too.

  72. This sounds plausible to my inexpert mind,

    The Americans cannot afford to lose Egypt, so I believe if the regime shakes tomorrow they will give a green light for a military coup. (It goes on, encouraging the Egyptian people to resist such an action.)

  73. Heres one for Admin to ponder.

    Obama kicked off his presidency with that crap speech in Cairo, it would be the height of irony that his Presidency is today possibly lying in tatters on the streets of Cairo, certainly Obama’s foreign policy is.

    Hillary has done her best but i deeply suspect Obama has undercut her every step of the way, in the end however, foreign policy is his decision, the buck stops there.

  74. Surprised? Anyone hear that damn Nero fiddling again……

    The Pres & First Lady were up in Chevy Chase,MD this morning to watch Sasha in her basketball tournament.

    Not like there is anything else to tend too..hmm lets see, shopping…no, new dress….Egypt….maybe later.

  75. Looking at the map of the ME, it appears the Muslim Brotherhood is attempting to make their move for radical control aka- Phase II.

    They are actively stirring up protesters in Suez, Jordan and Lebanon.
    If Egypt falls to the Muslim Brotherhood, the rest will be taken with less consequence unless Jordan aligns itself with Israel if they are both to survive this bold move by the brotherhood.

  76. Moon-

    You may want to read this commentary for the insights from the WSWS website. Hillary is mentioned but as we know the buck stops with Obama no matter what she recommends.
    ____________________

    WikiLeaks exposes US complicity in murder, torture, by Egyptian government

    By Tom Eley
    29 January 2011

    On Friday, WikiLeaks released dozens of diplomatic cables that together reveal the US has long been aware of the criminality of the Mubarak regime in Egypt and its savage abuses, including torture, random arrest, and extra-judicial killings. The documents also reveal that plans for the military-supervised transfer of power from Hosni Mubarak to his son, Gamal, were presented to Washington.

    The document release, which coincided with mass demonstrations and clashes with police in Cairo, Suez, and other cities, will only serve to further discredit Mubarak, and is a major embarrassment to the Obama administration,

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/wiki-j29.shtml

  77. This new VP Suleman is known to be ruthless and basically more of the same, if the protestors want change, he is the last person they will want as head of Egypt.

    I’m not sure it will be enough to stop this.

  78. moonpluto, I was just going to post that. Agreed, looks bad. At same time, these reports from the streets:

    STILL scenes of relative jubilation btw army & civilians (30 min. ago, maybe prior to notice of VP appointment)

    in last hour protesters took over security bldg. Stole weapons, ammunition. Building torched

    Omar Sueliman and Patreaus meeting cable, June 2009
    http://cablesearch.org/cable/view.php?id=09CAIRO1349&hl=omar++egypt+gaza+soliman
    .

    Meanwhile, China has blocked the word “Egypt” from the country’s wildly popular Twitter-like service, while coverage of the political turmoil has been tightly restricted in state media. A search for “Egypt” on the Sina microblogging service brings up a message saying, “According to relevant laws, regulations and policies, the search results are not shown”. The service has more than 50 million users.

    News on the Egypt protests has been limited to a few paragraphs and photos buried inside major news websites, but China Central Television had a report on its midday broadcast.

  79. Also consider that both solar panels and wind turbines need rare earth metals to function, which we get from China.

    ====================

    The problems you mention are all solvable by further research and by planning. The research is a one-time task — as is building the equipment.

    Contrast the ever-continuing danger of oil spills as in the Gulf, and dependence on foreign oil.

  80. I am upgrading Egypt on Hollywood Crisisometer from “Windy Britney” to “Full Level Lohan” levels as things take a turn for worse.

  81. “While the administration may be considering whether it can do without Mubarak, replacing him directly by the military or by one or another of the “opposition” figures, it also knows that the fall of Mubarak, coming after the flight of Tunisia’s Ben Ali, threatens to unleash a wave of popular revolt that could sweep through the entire region.”

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/pers-j29.shtml
    ___________________________

    I believe the military is necessary to forestall a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood. Unless the military has been so infiltrated with radical Muslims that having the military in place for security and filling the power vacuum becomes a failure.

    What my fear is the MB’s end game is surrounding and overpowering Israel with the takeover of it’s neighboring countries which imo will be the predicted Armageddon.

  82. Top cleric urges ‘blind, deaf, dumb’ Mubarak to go
    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    DUBAI — Influential Arab cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi on Saturday urged Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to step down for the good of the country, saying his departure is the only solution to Egypt’s crisis.

    The Sunni Muslim cleric, who holds Egyptian and Qatari nationalities, also encouraged Egyptians to keep up their peaceful protests demanding an end to Mubarak’s three-decade rule, in an interview with Al-Jazeera television.

    “President Mubarak … I advise you to depart from Egypt … There is no other solution to this problem but for Mubarak to go,” Qaradawi said, accusing the veteran leader of having turned “blind, deaf and dumb.”

    The cleric, spiritual leader of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and longtime resident of Qatar, heads the International Union for Muslim Scholars.

    “There is no staying longer, Mubarak, I advise you (to learn) the lesson of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali,” he said, referring to Tunisia’s deposed president who fled to Saudi Arabia.

    “Go Mubarak, have mercy on this people and leave so as not to increase the destruction of Egypt,” he added.

    He told Egyptians to “continue their uprising” but cautioned against any “attack on state institutions.” The uprising “must come through peaceful means,” Qaradawi said.

    The cleric unnerved Arab leaders earlier this month by sanctioning the popular revolt in Tunisia and hinting other governments in the region had starved and robbed their people.

    Famous in the Middle East for his at times controversial fatwas, or religious edicts, the octogenarian Qaradawi has celebrity status in the Arab world thanks to his religious broadcasts on Al-Jazeera television.

    He has in the past defended “violence carried out by certain Muslims.”

    The West accuses the cleric of supporting “terrorism” because he sanctioned Palestinian suicide attacks in Israel. Britain and the United States have refused to grant him entry visas.

    “Some violence is legitimate in the eyes of both religion and law, such as resistance to the occupation in Palestine, Lebanon or in Iraq,” Qaradawi said last September.

    “We call for peace because our religion orders it, but if war is imposed on us we will take it to our hearts.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i7rGuj9kDLzPVKrvbx2AyFKNt7hA?docId=CNG.e879b80d1011df0465e895c1c65e4e6d.761

  83. all the police stations have been looted and raided, all the guns taken. One little flashpoint is all thats needed to push this over the cliff.

    There is apparently not 1 policeman on the streets of cairo.

  84. hilarious……who are they trying to fool.

    Egypt has no plans for early elections, says speaker of parliament – Reuters via al Arabiya TV

    not one difference from the old govt.

  85. The policemen fled to their stations in Cairo yesterday when the military came in. The police were then reported to have changed into civilan clothing and fled the police stations. That’s why the protestors greeted the army with cries that the army would protest them from the police. Apparently to them the police were the enemy.

  86. I should have said: “Contrast the ever-continuing danger of oil spills as in the Gulf, and endless WAR for foreign oil.”

    Didn’t Palin, who wants to drill here now, say oil production would be a temporary thing till renewables could be built?

  87. The egyptian Govt playing games.

    the missing police…….creating dissent.

    Report from a doctor at Tahrir “the army were beating looters at the museum. They stopped when the looters said they were police.

  88. Moon,
    Good grief, how have the people not gotten to Mubarek and assassinated him??? They killed Sadat when nothing was going on, but I guess that was planned! If I was Mubarek, I’d be leaving and saving my own life…surely he’s packed away loads of money.

    Mrs.Smith,
    Is there somewhere your getting this information on the phases?? Of coarse I probably can’t access it now!

  89. Oh its getting worse, its regime thugs deliberately looting and attacking people, caught with ID’s.

    All over Al Jazeera : This will cause trouble. Complete collapse.

  90. From your link Moon- @ 12:07

    “What this analysis also shows is that a future Islamist revolution in Egypt and Jordan is quite possible.”
    _____________________

    Jordan is the key to this whole puzzle. The Muslim Brotherhood want King AbdullahII gone. If the Muslim Brotherhood takes over Jordan, then I suspect Israel is in serious trouble. If Abdullah is threatened, I believe there will be US Military intervention to aid and assist Jordan meanwhile assisting Israel.

  91. confloyd:

    Mrs.Smith,
    Is there somewhere your getting this information on the phases??
    _____________________________

    I posted several articles I found relevant to the Muslim Brotherhood yesterday beginning here. Also read the next few posts after the ‘Phases’ post regarding the TSA. Obama has given his permission for the TSA screeners to be trained by the Muslim Brotherhood. And also at their granted request to not dis Muslims/.

    Mrs. Smith
    January 28th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    ICNA Details 5-Stage Plan for Global Sharia

  92. I’d like to applaud these men. It seems as if at some point yesterday, the famed Cairo museum was being assaulted by looters.

    One man pleaded with people outside the museum’s gates on Tahrir Square not to loot the building, shouting at the crowd: “We are not like Baghdad.” After the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, thieves carted off thousands of artifacts from the National Museum in Baghdad — only a fraction of which have been recovered.

    Suddenly other young men — some armed with truncheons taken from the police — formed a human chain outside the main entrance in an attempt to protect the collection inside.

    “I’m standing here to defend and to protect our national treasure,” said one of the men, Farid Saad, a 40-year-old engineer.
    Another man, 26-year-old Ahmed Ibrahim, said it was important to guard the museum because it “has 5,000 years of our history. If they steal it, we’ll never find it again.”

    They kept the priceless artifacts safe until the army arrived to help. Good for them!

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2011/0128/Egyptian-army-storms-museum-to-protect-from-looters

  93. Hillary4T…it was govt agents and cops that raided the museum, its disgusting but even worse now. Islamic extremists crossing the border in droves.

    The following is a report from a STRATFOR source in Hamas. Hamas, which formed in Gaza as an outgrowth of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood (MB), has an interest in exaggerating its role and coordination with the MB in this crisis. The following information has not been confirmed. Nonetheless, there is a great deal of concern building in Israel and the United States in particular over the role of the MB in the demonstrations and whether a political opening will be made for the Islamist organization in Egypt.

    The Egyptian police are no longer patrolling the Rafah border crossing into Gaza. Hamas armed men are entering into Egypt and are closely collaborating with the MB. The MB has fully engaged itself in the demonstrations, and they are unsatisfied with the dismissal of the Cabinet. They are insisting on a new Cabinet that does not include members of the ruling National Democratic Party.

    Security forces in plain clothes are engaged in destroying public property in order to give the impression that many protesters represent a public menace. The MB is meanwhile forming people’s committees to protect public property and also to coordinate demonstrators’ activities, including supplying them with food, beverages and first aid.

    http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showheadlines.php?subaction=showfull&id=1296340963&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&var0news=value0news

  94. This is going to be a clusterfuck of epic porportions. The Middle is about to go apeshit.

    Israel will get involved if Hamas stick their nose in, if it seems this is happening from post above.

  95. Hillary4T and all, I noticed the source for the ‘protecting museum’ story not mentioning who the threat was, was the cs monitor. The weekend news from the mass media is going to be god-awful disinfo and bs.

    I shiver to think of the awfulness.

  96. Moon and JanH,
    I just don’t understand the geopolitical moves I guess, but if you don’t mind explaining your thoughts on Turkey not getting involved is surreal…I know I am really uninformed…Sorry!

    I got that from stratfor too….if this turns out to be a Theocracy…this could be bad and what about King Abdullah…they want him out for sure! Is this Al Queda?

  97. Mrs.Smith,
    If Obama has given this permission, then he is with this Muslim Brotherhood Group. Things are moving so fast that and they know Obama’s time as Potus is short, they may just be speeding things up?

  98. Turkey does not want to give its citizens any ideas.

    Basically…end off. With a history of coups, thats the last thing this place needs.

  99. Moononpluto,

    Your posts are most appreciated Since you live near the ME your perspective of what you’re seeing reported is powerful and disquieting. Please keep on sending updates. We’re not getting the same blunt coverage here, surprise, surprise.

  100. I have been in my studio all morning and just came up for a bit of lunch. My brothers says Mubarak is in England. Is that true? How is that allowed. For how many years has he suppressed democratic descent? He hung on to power by fair means and foul and now he has scampered off to England and left the people, supposedly his people to fend for them selves. They will more than likely end up enslaved like the people of Iran. That should be one lesson we should learn – never give a dictator safe harbor. Someone should have been at the airport to bat him right back to Egypt. Telling him to go and sacrifice himself to establish as much of a peaceful transition of power as his life can buy.

  101. confloyd

    you really need to read the articles (when you can) but for the time being, google a map of the Middle East. It makes it easier to understand what the motives are for the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey is not a key position they need right now. There are beginning protests in Yemen. Yemen is based at the lower end of the Suez Canal. The protests are as far west only to Alexandria (afaik) emanating from Cairo. If the MB works on protests in Syria and Lebanon next, they will have isolated Israel. This is why I said, Jordan is the key. Jordan has to remain out of reach of the Muslim Brotherhood if Israel is to survive.

  102. Betty
    What I have heard is that Mubarak’s son is in England, although Egyptain authorities deny that. If Mubarak fled Egypt he must have just done it and I haven’t heard any other reports that he has.

  103. The only problem with Jordan right now is that there are protests going on there as well.

    confloyd,

    This is a powderkeg waiting to explode. Mrs. Smith is right in her assessment. Israel has evacuated the families of it’s embassy workers and is closely watching what is going on. Lebanon has been overtaken by Hezbollah, Syria is alligned with Iran. Saudi Arabia could be the next to explode.

    Turkey is quiet, Iran watching, no one is going to do anything to upset the shaky balance.

  104. FYI…food for thought…

    thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-28/obamas-reelection-chances-12-reasons-hes-likely-to-lose/2/

    (McKinnon gives 12 different reasons…to sum it up…we are sick and tired of him…the thrill is gone)

    ******************************************************************

    moononpluto
    January 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
    Surprised? Anyone hear that damn Nero fiddling again……

    The Pres & First Lady were up in Chevy Chase,MD this morning to watch Sasha in her basketball tournament.

    Not like there is anything else to tend too..hmm lets see, shopping…no, new dress….Egypt….maybe later.
    **************************************************************

    O says:…never mind…let Hillary do it…it’s the weekend, O is busy with ‘fun, family stuff’…O will be back after Hillary does the heavy lifting again and takes any incoming criticism…hey, she is his buffer…

    *************************************************************************

    HillaryforTexas
    January 29th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    I’d like to applaud these men. It seems as if at some point yesterday, the famed Cairo museum was being assaulted by looters.

    ******************************************************************

    H4T…if that is true…it is a beautiful thing…and bravo to them for not giving in to mob mentality…

    ************************************************************************

    OT…

    moononpluto…I know you have mentioned you are in Turkey…anywhere near Istanbul?
    if so, does ‘the pudding shop’ still exist?
    ********************************************

  105. That should be one lesson we should learn – never give a dictator safe harbor.

    ==================

    In general I disagree. If a dictator is willing to leave instead of fighting to keep his position, imo we should encourage that. Buy him off if necessary, like the Phillipine Marcos. And don’t renege later. Treating him well will encourage other dictators to leave peaceably.

    As for whether Mubarak could have make things more peaceful by getting killed in Egypt, well, that’s another question. (I doubt it.)

  106. JanH
    January 29th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    The only problem with Jordan right now is that there are protests going on there as well.
    __________________

    Yes, I read that on a ME blog. However, I do like King Abdullah and he has the means and the education to defend Jordan.

    http://www.kingabdullah.jo/main.php?main_page=0&lang_hmka1=1

    This is why I suggested an alliance between Jordan and Israel. Their alliance would benefit both countries. Jordan is Israel’s back door and between them they have enough firepower to knockout the insurgents before they get started. It may be a question, how far should they go once they get started. Do they go to Suez? The MB seems to want control of the trade going through the canal. That would be disastrous occurrence for the rest of the world.

  107. Mrs. Smith,

    I agree that an alliance between Jordan and Israel would be a good thing. But Jordan is under huge pressure right now for its Arab nations so who knows what will happen.

    The other thing that worries me is whether obama would protect Israel in this mess.

  108. So a military dictatorship. This is ten times worse than what it was before.

    And obama is awol of course.
    —————————
    Worse than AWOL . . . he is watching a basketball tournament. Oh Magoo . . . you’ve done it again–big media was heard to say. And of course there will be the obligatory “there is very little the United States can do in this situation”–which is sort of like saying when you have lit the fuse and it has burned down to the explosive casing there is in fact very little you can do–except watch a basketball tournament.

  109. Clarification: his Periclean speech in Cairo, his failure to deal with Iran, and his inability to deliver the peace deal in Palestine which he promised all combined to light the fuse. At a time of declining American power, he accelerated the projecting weakness, indecision, and America bashing in all quarters. At this point, there is no policeman in the world, no overarching force of stability and the world is the less for it. As you say, elect a boob and expect boobery. And boobery has terrible consequences.

  110. JanH

    I agree that an alliance between Jordan and Israel would be a good thing. But Jordan is under huge pressure right now for its Arab nations so who knows what will happen.
    ____________________

    Jan, read the link to Abdullah’s bio to the end. (He has amicable relations with Israel.)
    ______________________

    The other thing that worries me is whether obama would protect Israel in this mess.
    ______________

    We have always promised protection and support to Israel if need be.
    Obama not respecting or honoring that decades long agreement would mean certain death to his presidency.

  111. The leader of Jordan’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood warned Saturday that unrest in Egypt will spread across the Mideast and Arabs will topple leaders allied with the United States.

    Hammam Saeed’s comments were made at a protest outside the Egyptian Embassy in Amman, inspired by massive rallies in neighboring Egypt demanding the downfall of the country’s longtime president, Hosni Mubarak.

    About 100 members of the fundamentalist group and activists from other leftist organizations and trade unions chanted “Mubarak, step down” and “the decision is made, the people’s revolt will remain.”

    Elsewhere, a separate group of 300 protesters gathered in front of the office of Jordanian Prime Minister Samir Rifai, demanding his ouster. “Rifai, it’s time for you to go,” chanted the group.

    Jordan’s protests have been relatively small in size, but they underline a rising tension with Jordan’s King Abdullah II, a key U.S. ally who has been making promises of reform in recent days in an apparent attempt to quell domestic discontent over economic degradation and lack of political freedoms.

    But as a monarch with deep support from the Bedouin-dominated military, Jordan’s ruler is not seen as vulnerable as Mubarak or Tunisia’s deposed leader. Even the Brotherhood — a fiery critic of Jordan’s moderate government — has remained largely loyal to the king, who claims ancestry to Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

  112. I’ve been trying to watch the news on Fox, now CNN…but I am socked to find Al Jazeera seems to have the best coverage over in Egypt.
    I was also surprised to hear on Fox that NY Times gave kudos to AJ for their reporting on this.

  113. Al Jazeera, i tell you is the most unbiased best reported channel in the world, it reports it as it is, no bias.

  114. moononpluto

    Al Jazeera, i tell you is the most unbiased best reported channel in the world, it reports it as it is, no bias.

    ———-
    I have been wondering about that Moon. I felt uncomfortable going there yesterday, since the last time I was on their site was the beheading of American’s in Iraq, (no I didn’t watch the beheadings)……long time ago. They seem to be on the side of the public but also don’t take a radical stance, they haven’t taken an anti-American stance either, from what I have seen. All the American tv news seems to be running and saying the same thing since yesterday.

  115. Shadowfax, the one thing i can truly say about AJ’s reporting is that it operates under no censorship. Unlike CNN. You see the full reports not the edited version.

  116. Informative articles on Elbaradei (& Muslim Brotherhood):

    “Mohamed ElBaradei: Globalist Pied Piper Of The Egyptian Revolt”

    (Paul Joseph Watson
    1/29/11)

    http://www.infowars.com/mohamed-elbaradei-globalist-pied-piper-of-the-egyptian-revolt/

    “The revolt in Egypt is an organically driven people-power movement to oust a dictator, restore universal freedoms, and wrestle the country free from the clutches of the US military-industrial complex, but the man now being positioned to form a new government is a pied piper working for the very same globalists and NGO’s that autocrat leader Hosni Mubarak has dutifully served for nearly 30 years.” [….]

    *******

    “CFR’s Foreign Affairs on “Egypt’s Hero”

    (Tony Cartalucci
    1/29/11)

    “In the Council on Foreign Affairs’ (CFR) publication “Foreign Affairs,” writer Steven Cook describes ElBaradei as “A lawyer and diplomat by training,” and that he “has always played the role of the ultimate international bureaucrat — a somewhat dour technocrat whose ties to his native country seemed purposely tenuous, to allow him to more freely contribute to improving global governance,” in his piece tilted “Is El Baradei Eypt’s Hero?” He goes on to write about ElBaradei’s “National Front for Change” and how the Muslim Brotherhood has signaled support for it.” [….]

    http://www.infowars.com/cfrs-foreign-affairs-on-egypts-hero/

  117. Shadowfax,
    Of coarse FOx did….Some Saudi money owns part of Fox now…I don’t have a problem with that at all, but they weren’t saying nice things about AJ for any other reason that filling their pillow with feathers!

  118. Mrs.Smith, Jan H, Moon,
    Thanks for the geopolitical lesson…and I did go look at the map of the ME and yes it does appear they are trying to close in Israel, but I’m not a general, so I was wondering you all’s take on it.

    I imagine that they want control over the Suez Canal to have control of all the oil shipping, right?

    Well they better get busy in Alaska and get that oil out and Canada better ramp up its production…cause if we go back to getting gas according to our license plates numbers like we did when Carter was in….we’ll get another Raygun for sure! Dammit I
    want Hillary!

    If all that happens where’s Israel going to get their oil or do they have their own??? Bebe just better dust off those Nuke’s and load them on those planes!

  119. Okay, for the space fans….

    “Husband, McCool, Anderson, Brown, Chawla, Clark, Ramon.
    Komarov, Grissom, White, Chaffee, Dobrovolsky, Volkov, Patsayev,
    Resnick, Scobee, Smith, McNair, McAuliffe, Jarvis, Onizuka.
    These names will be written under other skies.”
    — Ken MacLeod

  120. I feel weird knowing if I walked out of my house, walked to the beach and got on a boat and went due south for a bit, I’d hit Alexandria. Seriously its a clear direct stretch of water with a couple of tiny greek islands in between.

  121. By the way…….i’ve started seeing some people elsewhere tracking a connection from this Egyptian Chaos to Soros…..would you be surprised to know they found several?

  122. Hello

    The Globalists’ Egyptian Gambit: ElBaradei
    From the Council on Foreign Relations to the Brookings Institute, Globalists agree. Mohamed ElBaradei for (Egyptian) President.

    By Tony Cartalucci

    It was previously reported that Mohamed ElBaradei, the self-proclaimed leader of the unfolding Egyptian protests, is actually sitting on the Board of Trustees of the Zbigniew Brzezinski/George Soros globalist think-tank, the International Crisis Group.

    The mainstream media has been backing ElBaradei’s ownership of the protests, hailing this Nobel Laurette and former UN IAEA director as the potential next president of Egypt and the “hero” of the protests. The New York Times refers to him as the “Nobelist” portraying him as standing “toe-to-toe” with hundreds of riot police and promising to run for president if and only if elections were “free and fair.”

    While ElBaradei poses as a critic of the United States, it is not because of their meddling with Middle Eastern affairs, it is because they are not meddling enough. ElBaradei berates the United States for not intervening in what he calls “social disintegration, economic stagnation, and political repression” in Egypt. Apparently ElBaradei isn’t the only one who thinks so either.

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/01/globalists-egyptian-gambit-elbaradei.html

    start digging folks, it will lead all the way back to Obama guaranteed.

  123. moononpluto
    January 29th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Al Jazeera, i tell you is the most unbiased best reported channel in the world, it reports it as it is, no bias.

    ————-
    Are you saying that they are unbiased against Israel and the Jews? Because some of their headlines have suggested differently.

  124. Maybe Obama’s secret Blackberry hasn’t given him his orders yet? You know the one he refused to give up when he took the Presidency and most probably the direct communications device from Lord Soros.

  125. This Sunday…

    CBS “Face the Nation” with Bob Schieffer: William Daley, Obama chief of staff, and Secy. of State Hillary Clinton.

  126. Moon,
    I looked at the map…and it sure looks like your at a vantage point. I have a friend I work with that is from Eritrea….he told me many stories about that stretch of land…he says the water there is beautiful, what about where your at?

    I have always thought MB and Soros/Zbig/Obama are the 3 that are upsetting the applecart in the ME.

    ElBaradai said some ugly things about Hillary apparently!

  127. “Zbigniew Brzezinski ”

    I wonder when he was going to show his globalist ugly face. Looks like he is now popping up.

  128. If you think about it if the globalist’s get their people in power that can control the oil coming out of the middle east…they can control the price…thereby controling the world!

    The Bush’s are in there somewhere too, you betcha! Sarah and the Bush’s are NOT friends!

  129. Hillary, she is just like the Duracell Bunny. I’d have keeled over by now running around like her.

    Confloyd….the water is completely clear unspoilt unpolluted, turquoise or light blue. I sit on the beach with baby fishies swimming round my feet and usually nibbling.

    maybe the 1st question Amanpour needs to asks Zbig is “what the fuck is he and Soros up to”

  130. JanH,
    No I don’t think she ever takes a day off…she’s trying to help, but the others have lives…its disgusting!

    Odumbo out with his kids…well lets all hope Hillary and Bill become grand parents so they will have an excuse to take a day off, LOL!

  131. Moon,
    I do wish they would ask questions…just like that! Then maybe they would be so shocked that they might answer honestly!

  132. I have to say, the last 2.5 years I have learned so much about how all this works, heck in 2006, if someone had asked me whoor what the globalists were, would have had a “deer in the headlights” look.
    With the Internet, much easier to find and filter my own opinion about information.
    And with Waffles, its much easier to see just how corrupt the dem and repub parties have become, and the result is the birth of the Tea Party movement.

  133. Trust me I am comparing the news channels and you guys in the continental US are not getting the half of the info what is coming out of Egypt in info.

  134. tim,
    Yes I feel too that I am more educated with the internet, especially all my “Big Pink” buddies from Turkey to New England to California and all places in between…all prospectives I would of never been subjected to without the good old internet! I love it!

  135. Obama repeats call for restraint in Egypt

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Obama issued a plea for restraint in Egypt after meeting with national security aides Saturday to assess the Cairo government’s response to widespread protests threatening the stability of the country.

    A White House statement said Obama “reiterated our focus on opposing violence and calling for restraint, supporting universal rights, and supporting concrete steps that advance political reform within Egypt.”

    But Obama offered no reaction to Mubarak’s decision earlier Saturday to name a vice president for the first time since coming to power nearly 30 years ago. Mubarak appointed his intelligence chief, Omar Suleiman, who is well respected by American officials. The president also fired his Cabinet.

    Five days of protests have left more than 70 dead.

    Before Suleiman’s appointment, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the U.S. wanted to see Mubarak fulfill his pledges of reform as protests swept the country.

    “The Egyptian government can’t reshuffle the deck and then stand pat,” Crowley said on his Twitter account. “President Mubarak’s words pledging reform must be followed by action.”

    Crowley said Egyptians “no longer accept the status quo. They are looking to their government for a meaningful process to foster real reform.”

    After speaking to Mubarak by telephone late Friday, Obama delivered a four-minute statement calling on the Egyptian leader to take steps to democratize his government and refrain from using violence against his people.

    As events unfolded Saturday, Obama and his advisers kept a low profile.

    The president spent part of the morning watching one of his daughter’s basketball games at a community center in the Maryland suburbs.

    At the White House, top diplomatic, security and intelligence officials gathered for two hours to review the situation in Egypt. The meeting was led by national security adviser Tom Donilon and included White House chief of staff William Daley and CIA Director Leon Panetta. Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Margaret Scobey, the U.S. ambassador to Egypt, participated by teleconference, the White House said.

    Obama did not attend that session.

    His afternoon meeting with many of the same officials also included press secretary Robert Gibbs and adviser David Plouffe.

    Suleiman has played an active role in the peace process, particularly in trying to arrange compromise between rival Palestinian factions, Fatah and Hamas. He has been at the forefront of the Egyptian effort to crackdown on arms smuggling from Egypt into Gaza.

    Suleiman has been “the point person on both the U.S. relationship and the Israel-Egyptian relationship,” said Jon Alterman, Mideast director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “He’s very reassuring both ways.”

    Diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks help illustrate that point. One reports on an April 2009 meeting between Suleiman and Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Suleiman, the cable says, “explained that his overarching regional goal was combating radicalism, especially in Gaza, Iran, and Sudan.”

    The cable reports that Suleiman said Egypt must “confront” Iranian attempts to smuggle arms to Gaza and quotes him as saying “a Gaza in the hands of radicals will never be calm.”

    A 2007 cable discusses scenarios for presidential succession and reports the view of an Egyptian official that Mubarak’s son Gamal viewed Suleiman as a potential threat.

    A second cable from 2007 describes Suleiman as Mubarak’s “consigliore,” a term more typically used to the chief adviser to a Mafia leader. Even then, Suleiman was mentioned as likely to assume the role of vice president. It says Suleiman himself “adamantly denies any personal ambitions, but his interest and dedication to national service is obvious.”

    “He could be attractive to the ruling apparatus and the public at large as a reliable figure unlikely to harbor ambitions for another multi-decade presidency,” the cable states. It also says Mubarak had promised to name Suleiman vice president “several years ago” but then reneged.

    The cables were sent by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

    Alterman said Suleiman’s elevation to vice president is designed by Mubarak to signal resolve.

    “It is intended to send a message that if Hosni Mubarak leaves, the system remains,” he said. “It is not reassuring to the protesters, but it is reassuring to people who fear that Egypt might be slipping into chaos.”

    In New York, Cambridge, Mass., and Washington, protesters, many of them Egyptian Americans, took to the streets demanding that Mubarak step down.

    Outside the Egyptian Embassy a few miles from the White House, demonstrators also criticized the Obama administration’s response to the tumult in Egypt. They waved Egyptian flags and held signs that read “Obama: Democracy or Hypocrisy?” and “Victory to the Egyptian People!”

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-01-29-us-egypt_N.htm#

  136. 5 second time out from the meltdown in Egypt which is likely to gather momentum throughout the middle east while Obama watches hoops and does a remake of the old Mitchum deoderant advertisement–never let them see you sweat called never let them see you work. Big media was feeding us these staged photos of him sitting around a table dispensing wisdom to cabinet members like Socrates, but now we find that he has not spoken to some of those cabinet members in two years. Well, cameras can be deceiving. Here is a bright and cheery note from Webster Tarpley giving us a little more about Jeff Immelt. This is good because 90% of the country do not know who he is. And 80% do not know who the world’s greatest revolutionary George Soros is and how he works with Breznevsky to overturn government. Who the fuck is he and who cares–is what they say. But everybody knows that Messiah Obama went to a basketball game and what Michelle wore to each event thanks to big media.

    Incidently, I tend to agree with Moon that AJ is far more objective and truthful than CNN in general. CNN is managed news, managed to the benefit of big business interests and they have been hostile to Israel in times past. If AJ is unfair to Israel, it is easy to dismiss what they say as bias. But when CNN does it, people tend to believe them because their bias is far less obvious.

    To me, this is exactly how the firing of Olberman read. Exactly.
    —————————————————————————-
    Olbermann Ouster: Immelt Helps Obama with his Left Flank on the Eve of a Monstrous State of the Union Address

    Webster G. Tarpley
    TARPLEY.net
    January 22, 2011

    Last night, Keith Olbermann, the host of MSNBC’s flagship and top-rated Countdown program, abruptly told his viewers that he had been fired by the network. On the same day, Jeffrey Immelt, the top honcho of General Electric, was hobnobbing with Obama at a GE plant in Schenectady, New York – a plant which has received subsidies from the Obama regime. Government financial help for GE has not gone mainly to the firm’s remaining industrial manufacturing divisions, but rather– and in boxcar numbers –to GE Capital, long notorious as a derivatives hedge fund in drag.

    Immelt, a well-known asset-stripper and runaway shop devotee, has also just been appointed as the boss of Obama’s new White House Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which in turn is part of Obama’s sharp right turn towards austerity, tax cuts for the rich, and a new assault on the Social Security-Medicare-Medicaid-jobless insurance complex. In this regard, Wall Street puppet Obama is reputed to be preparing new historical crimes against the American people, and new stabs in the back for his own base. This goes together with Obama’s naming of JP Morgan banker William Daley, an advocate of free trade sellouts, as White House chief of staff, and the new prominence of Goldman Sachs associate and derivatives deregulator Gene Sperling as the successor to Larry Summers as economics czar.

    During the 2007-2008 campaign, Olbermann had thoroughly degraded himself by acting the role of a media toady to the new Messiah, and the implacable defamer of Obama’s rivals. But, over the last few months, Olbermann had launched some critical sallies against the Anointed One. Olbermann was increasingly critical and disillusioned about the administration. He was especially indignant about Obama’s December sellout on the Bush tax cuts for the rich, pointing out Obama’s dangerous erosion of the integrity of Social Security, and the cynical betrayal of the 99ers, the long-term jobless.

    So put two and two together: did Immelt fire Olbermann as a gesture to please Obama by silencing a possible critic of the White House’s stunning rightward lunge? This makes much more sense than the competing explanation, which is that Olbermann was driven out by Comcast, which is buying NBC Universal from GE. MSNBC is still under GE control, and will be for weeks or months.

    Olbermann was still far from breaking with Obama, or for calling for a Democrat to challenge the tenant of the White House in the primaries, or for demanding that Obama be dumped from the Democratic ticket. Even so, with a raft of further capitulations to reactionary demands in the offing for next week’s State of the Union, Olbermann’s response on any given day was unpredictable. The Countdown host was unquestionably a loose cannon, apt to go off the reservation at any moment by embarrassing the Messiah with barbed Special Comments that hit home with the liberal Democratic base.

    For Obama, an obvious part of dropping the mask of hope and change for the second term, revealing the hideous bankers’ stooge underneath, is the need to protect his left flank by suppressing likely political attacks from that quarter. Quite apart from anything Olbermann has done or not done, his ouster is designed to chill any anti-Obama invective that might come from the left-liberal complex of MSNBC-Huffington and their acolytes. Obama is reminding the fatuous left libs that he is after all a brutal thug in his own right, and can be his own Rahm Emmanuel.

    The big MSNBC beneficiary of Olbermann’s sacking is Lawrence O’Donnell, a former congressional aid who regards Capitol Hill as a serious place deserving of respect, rather than a congeries of thieves and cretins, and whose fealty to Obama was shown by his support for the administration’s sellout on the Bush tax cuts, when he was the only MSNBC prime time host to fully back Obama. The philistine Ed Shultz pretends to represent labor, but he will always roll over for Barky, and the same goes for the shrill and unstable Chris Matthews, who still gets that thrill in his leg when he views the Messiah. Rachel Maddow may now find that, without Olbermann’s million-strong audience already tuned in, her own program is not viable. All of these figures can see that, if Immelt is willing to can the biggest moneymaker and most influential figure on the network, all of them are expendable and had better toe the line and watch out. The result is a new example of how Obama’s catastrophic Wall Street presidency is destroying progressive causes in this country for the decades ahead, just as Carter did. The only answer is an immediate primary challenge to Obama, with the intent of dumping Obama in 2012.

  137. and we all know why bambi didn’t attend…

    Top U.S. officials held 2-hour meeting on Egypt: White House

    Sat Jan 29, 2011

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Top U.S. officials including Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a two-hour meeting on Saturday morning about the situation in Egypt, a White House spokesman said.

    President Barack Obama, who did not attend the meeting, was to receive an update from his national security staff later on Saturday, the spokesman said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-usa-whitehouse-idUSTRE70S33R20110129

  138. When I was at Safeway today, I saw a new book out by Kitty Kelly on Oprah.

    I checked the index and found a few pages on Hillary. It talks about what a humongous crush Oprah had/has on Obama and how everyone knows that that was the only reason she supported him.

  139. “President Barack Obama, who did not attend the meeting

    This just stunning, absolutely stunning, how the hell does a president of this country not attend a briefing on a country that is in chaos that is a strategic ally of America.

    The presidency is not some freaking hobby! Our country’s interests are at stake and this pathetic man cannot even attend this urgent meeting?!?!?!?

    I could not stand Bush, but more and more I am respecting Bush in ways I never did before! As least Bush had some sense of what was important.

  140. I thought that crush Oprah has on the “skinny one” was too apparent when she came to get her award from him with her boobs shoved up in her neck and a dress that barely covered the darn things….of coarse the “one” seemed to be oblivious to them…Poor Oprah, I imagine she would like to be First Lady!

  141. Well maybe we should help old Oprah with her lust for the “skinny one” and with her billions, she could help pay down the national debt, LOL!

  142. JanH,
    In otherwards, they don’t need his help, but he’ll come in at the last and screw things up!

    I bet this is how the country is being run…they let Hillary do all the leg work, have meetings get everything all worked out….then someone presents it to Obama and he decides if it makes him look good or if he can figure out how to blame anything bad on Hillary?

  143. moononpluto
    January 29th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Here is where Soros comes in-

    from the WSWS website:

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/pers-j29.shtml

    “To carry forward the struggle, certain basic issues must be clarified. First, absolutely no confidence can be placed in any of the oppositional groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood and Mohamed ElBaradei, who recently returned to Egypt with the express intention of preventing the protests from getting out of hand. All of these forces, as well as the rotten, state-controlled trade unions, are absolutely committed to the defense of Egyptian capitalism and its relationship with imperialism.

    Second, the expansion of the struggle requires the independent mobilization of the entire working class, leading behind it all the oppressed masses of the region. The form of the initial upheavals has already demonstrated that class, not religion, nationality, race or ethnicity, is the fundamental social division in every country.

    It is necessary to reject all those who counsel restraint and seek some deal within the existing anti-democratic social and political structure, and who make their appeals to US and world imperialism. The aim must be to replace the existing state with a workers’ government, controlled by new institutions of popular democracy. Such a government will be the basis for carrying through socialist measures, including the nationalization of all major corporations and banks.”
    _____________________________

    There it is: Nationalization of all major corporations and banks…. a Soros dream.

  144. JanH

    “It talks about what a humongous crush Oprah had/has on Obama and how everyone knows that that was the only reason she supported him.”
    ____________________

    Except her crush was about skin color and how he was the ‘chosen one’!
    She is such a racist. Her hidden views on whites fall in line with that of Rev Wright’s.

    Opie, “The Chickens are coming home to roost!”

  145. There is word coming out of Egypt of over 5,000 prisoners escaping from prisons this evening in Cairo.

    I’ve also been talking to some friends of mine, sources if you will in DC. Terrified would be an understatement of the direction this is heading.

  146. I said to my friends today.

    Obama launched his Presidency in Cairo, quite possibly thats where Presidency lies in ruins today on the streets of Cairo being trampled by thousands of protestors.

    The response i got was “I would not be surprised”.

    DC is to say the least stunned.

  147. By the way, i am hearing nothing of any help in getting US citizens out of Egypt….not a peep.

    Someone needs to get them out soon, there are quite a lot of Americans there. I hope they are positioning a large aircraft carrier nearby. We may need to do a Somalia soon and airlift because when it heads south it will do so very fast.

  148. “Terrified would be an understatement of the direction this is heading.”
    ___________________

    Do they mean “terrified” because of the way Obama is oblivious to Egypt’s state of affairs in chaos. Or are they terrified enough to want to leave the city?

  149. Why is it important for the American People to know what is going on in Egypt right now? Can they do anything about it? Or is it simply a diversion from what is going on in this country? If they had constructive ideas on how to handle this would anyone listen? If it will have a direct impact on them, what is that impact? If it is adverse how can it be avoided? The reason I ask these questions is because all the mistakes which led up to this point have been hidden from the public view, and if they implicate Obama then they will not be revealed by big media. Is this anything more than another event which a derelict big media can use to drive ratings? Don’t tell me this is about creating an informed public, because we know from experience that big media could care less about that. Ultimately is this really no different than watching a fire?

  150. Terrified of how American Foreign Policy has just been blown to smithereens and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Its a gamechanger.

  151. Okay, the reason I am interested in it is because it represents a lapse in leadership by the United States, and the Soros angle interests me. But I doubt most people look at it that way.

  152. Bedouin tribesman have reportedly taken control of two towns in the Sinai Peninsula. These two towns are the closest to the Gaza Strip and right next to the border with Israel. There were reports yesterday that Bedouin tribes had besieged a police station in Suez and it appears that these riots have spread. This would effectively end the Mubarak dictatorship’s control of the region. There are no reports of the Egyptian military stepping in here.

    The more disturbing news is a threat that has been made by the tribes if Mubarak does not step down. According to one report coming from Time Magazine, they are willing to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not leave. The Suez Canal currently is where a third of the world’s oil and six percent of all products passes through. A seizure of the Canal could spike oil prices beyond the current $90 level, perhaps over $110. This could come to pass despite the fact that Egypt is not a major oil producer.

    It has been speculated that the Egyptian army would not allow the Canal, perhaps Egypt’s most important economic element, to be attacked. However, there appears to be little to no protection and one report states that at least one ship has been attacked there. Others have reported fear of passing through due to the unrest.

  153. wbboei,

    If for no other reason, the market is reeling from what is going on in Egypt and the price of oil has the potential to go sky high.

    Other than that, I would hope that most people in all countries would care about what is happening to the people of Egypt.

  154. “they are willing to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not leave.”

    ——————
    My God! It just keeps getting worse and worse. Can we get at least one world leader to step forward and do something?

  155. Terrified of how American Foreign Policy has just been blown to smithereens and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Its a gamechange
    ———————–
    Brilliant Moon brilliant.

    “There is such a difference between the way men act, and the way they ought to act, that anyone who forsakes what is for what ought to be will surely learn something that will ruin him”–Maciavelli.

    Case in point: Messiah Obama and his benighted foreign policy. He who made the waters of the Red Sea part and on the first second third fourth fifth sixth and seventh day rested–and watched hoops when it is in season.

  156. If for no other reason, the market is reeling from what is going on in Egypt and the price of oil has the potential to go sky high.

    Other than that, I would hope that most people in all countries would care about what is happening to the people of Egypt.
    ———————–
    Absolutely right Jan. But with a boob at the helm we are helpless.

  157. The reason this bothers me is there are lynchpin countries in this world and this is one of them.

    1 : Suez
    2 : Its strategically the US’s biggest Ally there in the region
    3 : Look whats to the left and right and south and north….Libya to the left, Saudi to the Right and the Northern islamic genocidal maniac region of Sudan, Gaza
    4 : Israel Israel Israel

    Need i go on, if this one goes to shit, you have fundamentalists from those 4 regions flowing like water over the border and thats what the US is afraid of and the land access for intelligence becomes very hard.

  158. If someone held a gun to my head and asked me to declare on penalty of death what I believed to be true, I would respond that I firmly believe that global interests have outgrown the nation state model, see a global market and are determined to create through the collapse of national borders, the merger of economies, the melding together of legal systems, the toppling of governmnets and the unimpeded movement of goods and labor across borders, a much larger polity comprised of elites, technocrats and the masses over which they can exercise absolute control based on the Orwellian model. We saw prominent examples of this in the early twentieth century, and today the capacity for social control is much greater. The incentive for this is equally great. That to me is what puppet Obama represents and why he must be defeated at all cost.

  159. Tim, don’t believe it, the protestors do not want any of these guys, they are Mubaraks men through and through.

  160. The reason this bothers me is there are lynchpin countries in this world and this is one of them.

    1 : Suez
    2 : Its strategically the US’s biggest Ally there in the region
    3 : Look whats to the left and right and south and north….Libya to the left, Saudi to the Right and the Northern islamic genocidal maniac region of Sudan, Gaza
    4 : Israel Israel Israel
    ————————–
    Obama’s Foreign Policy Masterpiece . . . .

    (And I thought it was Iran we were supposed to be destabilizing–silly me)

    The One Hoss Shay is a metaphor for Obama’s foreign policy–starting with the great Cairo Speech!

    Have you heard of the wonderful one-hoss shay,
    That was built in such a logical way
    It ran a hundred years to a day,
    And then, of a sudden, it — ah, but stay,
    I’ll tell you what happened without delay,
    Scaring the parson into fits,
    Frightening people out of their wits, —
    Have you ever heard of that, I say?

    (snip)

    What do you think the parson found,
    When he got from the basketball game and stared around?
    The poor old chaise in a heap or mound,
    As if it had been to the mill and ground!
    You see, of course, if you’re not a dunce,
    How it went to pieces all at once, —
    All at once, and nothing first, —
    Just as bubbles do when they burst.

    End of the wonderful one-hoss shay.
    Logic is logic. That’s all I say.

  161. I wonder how the stock market will react on Monday. Conventional wisdom is that high oil prices depress stock. But in the age of Obama it may simply levitate on thin air and bullshit. Do I hear a waltz? Or is it only another scripted speech coming on. How bout doing it without notes?

  162. There it is: Nationalization of all major corporations and banks…. a Soros dream.

    =================

    I thought he was an investor.

  163. moon — just as an observer, frankly I would rather have Mubarack stay in power and then transition to another team, I do not want a power vaccuum, nor do I want Mohammed “Muslim Brotherhood ally” El-bariahia in power.

    The egyptian army seems to be still loyal to Mubarack, and to the US, so I am truely hoping yes lots of reform, transition, but in a controlled way, I suspect most of the orginal protestors want reform, but not utter chaos, and certainly the Egyptian most likely do not want a Muslim BrotherHood backed islamic govt. I know a couple of americans of egyptian decent and they are pretty secular, I suspect the protestors, the original ones want reform but done in a controlled way, and certainly not a more restrictive islamic govt.

  164. Tim, oh i agree, a stable govt for us would be good but when things start spiralling out of control, you’d be surprised at how much rational thinking goes out the window. People do things they never would ever do normally and actions have consequences and so on and so on and it reverberates and amplifies.

  165. moononpluto
    January 29th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Terrified of how American Foreign Policy has just been blown to smithereens and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Its a gamechanger.
    _______________________

    Got it!

    To answer wbb question. It’s not that we can do anything about it.. It’s the fear of an uprising in this country, especially if it is Muslim driven; our president will be AWOL. As he is of a mind to handle domestic policy the same as he handles foreign policy.

  166. I hope the stock market can handle this…my friend lost 1900. on Friday….he has worked 7 days a week since high school and he’s retiring in Dec. when he’s 62…I hope this doesn’t go down like I think its going to.

    The CFR and all their manipulating things…may have pulled their own plug and maybe sinking their own ship,which will take us down with them….we will need a true leader then….one that will rise up like a phoenix…..Hillary! I am going to try and watch her tomorrow, of coarse she’ll be under strict orders from the pipsqueak not to say anything important!

  167. I find these rallies here in the US about this whole Egypt crisis pretty amusing, there was a lady on CNN (had no choice in watching this lame station, was at a car repair shop), and the rally woman was saying “yes, get rid of Mubarack”, well then what? the correspondent asked, “let the people decide”, correspondent “would you rather have a muslim brotherhood backed govt?”, the ignorant woman “not sure what the MB is, but yes if the people decide it, then yes, we Americans always should support it”

    yikes!! and double yikes!!

  168. of course this same ignorant woman will complain when gas prices spike, not even making the slightest connection to the events that are going on.

  169. One thing i can say is, I hope to hell we have not been dumb enough to store Arms within Egypts borders.

  170. Terrified of how American Foreign Policy has just been blown to smithereens and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Its a gamechanger.
    ——————————
    Yes. It is a game changer alright. Whatever its drawbacks might be gunboat diplomacy is preferable to chaos. The intellectual roots of this go back to the Cairo speech, and Obama’s inability to confront our enemies. Anyone who claims the messiah is blameless in this affair are either corrupt or naive. And depending on the Soros angle he may be even more guilty than we think.

  171. One thing i can say is, I hope to hell we have not been dumb enough to store Arms within Egypts borders.
    ——————————
    You mean like storing nuclear arms in Pok e tahn? Impossible.

  172. I was speaking to a much older friend of mine who is jewish and he in 2008 said something that I dismissed, but now I am taking more seriously. He was a Hillary dem, but then voted for Mccain/Palin, I remember he said when Waffles was elected, that he actually feared for Israel’s existance, and I remember saying to him, “you mean they will not have an ally in Waffles?”.

    And he said no, he was actually genuinely concerned at the very existance of Israel, Waffles is anti-Israel, he cannot act much on that, but he is, and when the cards are on the table, he cannot be excepted to really stand with Israel.
    Sadly, much of what he has said is now coming true.

  173. global interests have outgrown the nation state model, see a global market and are determined to create through the collapse of national borders, the merger of economies, the melding together of legal systems, the toppling of governmnets and the unimpeded movement of goods and labor across borders

    =====================

    I’m not sure all that is to their advantage, at least not initially. As it is, a multinational corporation (any of several) is larger and more powerful than most nations — as well as having infiltrated most national governments. Thus they can play each nation, each government, off against another, in a situation so chotic that no one else knows what’s going on. Tax havens, Brunei, Caymans … little independent nations with no pesky citizens or production of their own.

    Want to tweak supply and demand of Unobtanium? Get the supplying nation to tax it.

    ===========

    , a much larger polity comprised of elites, technocrats and the masses over which they can exercise absolute control based on the Orwellian model.

    ================

    That gives them a possible adversary of their own size, and no wiggle room. Anyway, it would take decades, and by then they’d all be dead.

  174. wbboei
    January 29th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    do you remember in the speech he as actually apologizing to the audience about what American bloggers were saying on the Internet about them. What a pathetic buffoon.
    Wanna bet how many Muslim Brotherhood and their allies were just laughing and chomping at the bit?

  175. This reminds me so much of 1979 when the Iranian Shah was overthrown and Jimmy Carter just stood back and did nothing. Of course Carter was just an idiot, Waffles is a America-loathing self-serving idiot, much worse.

    “An official at Cairo airport says 19 private jets carrying families of wealthy Egyptian and Arab businessmen have flown out of the capital.”
    ———————–
    Amen.

  176. the “skinny one” is an undercover agent for the MB and CAIR…I think know Dinnerjacket personally. I think its weird that Iran has sent an Armada of ships to the Suez Canal…the left Iran on Jan 23rd.

    I think this whole thing is planned and I think that Odumbo and his buddies have pulled a fast one on the CFR!

    Of coarse I have NO proof, but just a gut feeling!

  177. As I said all these Arab Dr.’s that I worked for in Houston…were for Bambi…all out…so they knew…just like the Arab cab drivers knew to stay out of DT Manhattan on 9/11.

  178. do you remember in the speech he as actually apologizing to the audience about what American bloggers were saying on the Internet about them. What a pathetic buffoon.
    ——————————————
    Obama the dimwitted Messiah. Most likely they were unaware of these comments before he told them about them. After he spoke it is reasonably certain that they went looking for the comments he was apologizing for and got enraged. John Wayne used to say never apologize it is a sign of weakness. Perhaps that is why Obama does it so often.

  179. I don’t have the youtube clip, but all I keep thinking about is Hillary saying no preconditions is stupid, and that if Iran attacks Israel, it would face the full force and wrath of the American military. And Waffles made fun of her for that.

    Then the other youtube clip, when Mccain was going after Waffles for his Pakistan stance, and Mccain was making fun of his naivete, and of course the Obot media went after Mccain for that.

    Any independent thinking American should now have no doubt in their mind that Hillary or Mccain would have been much better than the incompetnent pathetic man that sits in the WH today.

  180. If Brotherhood takes over, IDF will face formidable enemy

    By YAAKOV KATZ
    30/01/2011

    This year is turning into a critical one for Israel, which is becoming more isolated in the ME. Turkey is gone and Egypt appears to be on the way.

    The collapse of Hosni Mubarak’s regime in Egypt is not yet about Israel but soon will be, depending on his successor.

    If the Muslim Brotherhood grabs the reins in the massive Arab country, Israel will face an enemy with one of the largest and strongest militaries around, built on some of the most advanced American-made platforms.

    The collapse of Hosni Mubarak’s regime in Egypt is not yet about Israel but soon will be, depending on his successor.

    If the Muslim Brotherhood grabs the reins in the massive Arab country, Israel will face an enemy with one of the largest and strongest militaries around, built on some of the most advanced American-made platforms.

    The impact on Israel will be immediate – the IDF will need to undergo major structural changes, new units will need to be created and forces in the South will likely need to be beefed up. Since the Yom Kippur War in 1973, the IDF has not had to worry about two fronts at once. Until now.

    The appointment of Intelligence Minister Omar Suleiman as the vice president in Egypt is a reassuring sign for Israel.

    Suleiman has played a key role in Israeli- Egyptian relations over the years and is considered in charge of the “Israeli Dossier” His office has been responsible for coordinating efforts to stop smuggling via tunnels under the Philadelphi Corridor with Gaza and he is considered something of a moderate in comparison to outgoing Defense Minister Mohamed Tantawi.

    In a cable published recently by WikiLeaks, Suleiman told the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2009 that Egypt was stopping Iranian money from making its way through the country to Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

    A new regime in Egypt could change all of that, and the transfer of Iranian funds to Hamas would be the least of Israel’s concerns.

    Due to the peace with Egypt and Jordan as well as the toppling of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, the IDF has spent the last decade focused on the internal Palestinian threat, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. Israel’s military buildup was performed accordingly, including procurement plans regarding the number of tanks, armored personnel carriers and fighter jets acquired.

    “With its current assets, the IDF will currently find it very difficult to be able to deal with two live fronts at once,” a senior defense official admitted recently.

    In the meantime, in Israel the hope is that Mubarak survives the calls for his downfall and that the appointment of Suleiman as well as the dismissal of the government succeeds in easing the demonstrations on the streets.

    At the moment, assessments in Israeli intelligence circles are that Mubarak will survive. The demonstrations throughout Egypt, while large and growing, do not have an organized leadership behind them, and fearing a violent crackdown, the Muslim Brotherhood is staying underground.

    The question, though, is what happens the “day after” Mubarak? Who will succeed him and what role will the Muslim Brotherhood play? Israel’s concerns though are not isolated to Egypt. One former senior Mossad official said on Saturday that Israel needed to be more concerned with a potential revolution in Jordan.

    “In Egypt, Israel has Sinai as a major buffer zone,” the official said. “This is not the case in Jordan, where there is a massive Palestinian population that could directly threaten Israel through the West Bank.”

    This year is turning into a critical one for Israel, which is finding itself increasingly isolated within the Middle East. Turkey is gone and Egypt appears to be on the way.

    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=205797

  181. “This year is turning into a critical one for Israel, which is becoming more isolated in the ME”

    Goal achieved, so thinks Mr. Waffles.

  182. “I was speaking to a much older friend of mine who is jewish and he in 2008 said something that I dismissed, but now I am taking more seriously.”
    _____________________

    And I’ll bet he was sickened at the response from his friends at Temple when they told him they were voting for Obama. And there was nothing he could say to disuade them.

  183. confloyd @7:36

    “I think its weird that Iran has sent an Armada of ships to the Suez Canal…they left Iran on Jan 23rd.”
    ____________________

    confloyd, do you have a link to that story?

    This is an important development.

  184. Jesus H Christ……

    6,000 prisoners have escaped from Abu Zaabel prison in Egypt a short time ago.

    There are also people patrolling neighbourhoods with faces covered with AK47’s.

  185. JanH

    “If the Muslim Brotherhood grabs the reins in the massive Arab country, Israel will face an enemy with one of the largest and strongest militaries around, built on some of the most advanced American-made platforms.”

    “The collapse of Hosni Mubarak’s regime in Egypt is not yet about Israel but soon will be, depending on his successor.

    The impact on Israel will be immediate – the IDF will need to undergo major structural changes, new units will need to be created and forces in the South will likely need to be beefed up. Since the Yom Kippur War in 1973, the IDF has not had to worry about two fronts at once. Until now.”

    __________________________

    The only good news is this:

    “The appointment of Intelligence Minister Omar Suleiman as the vice president in Egypt is a reassuring sign for Israel.

    Suleiman has played a key role in Israeli- Egyptian relations over the years and is considered in charge of the “Israeli Dossier” His office has been responsible for coordinating efforts to stop smuggling via tunnels under the Philadelphi Corridor with Gaza and he is considered something of a moderate in comparison to outgoing Defense Minister Mohamed Tantawi.”
    ________________________

    Which means to me the US is involved.
    ______________

    “At the moment, assessments in Israeli intelligence circles are that Mubarak will survive. The demonstrations throughout Egypt, while large and growing, do not have an organized leadership behind them, and fearing a violent crackdown, the Muslim Brotherhood is staying underground.

    The question, though, is what happens the “day after” Mubarak? Who will succeed him and what role will the Muslim Brotherhood play? Israel’s concerns though are not isolated to Egypt. One former senior Mossad official said on Saturday that Israel needed to be more concerned with a potential revolution in Jordan.”
    ____________________________

    Yes, this is what I was seeing earlier in the day. Jordan is important to Israel’s survival. We have good relations with Jordan and King Abdullah is a rational fair man. He no more wants to be deposed and taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood, than the man in the moon. He has worked hard to advance his country to the latest cutting edge technologies. (I have followed King Abdullah life and career over the years, since 1999.) He has the wherewithal to work comfortably with Israel. (And he is not one of Obama’s followers. In fact when he last visited the US and Obama, Obama, I thought, was rude and ungracious to a very great King that cares about his country and his people.)

  186. Mrs Smith, however none of it is any use if the whole country descends into chaos, there will be no govt.

  187. do you remember in the speech he as actually apologizing to the audience about what American bloggers were saying on the Internet about them.

    =================

    Which bloggers? And ftm, which audience? I missed that.

  188. 6,000 prisoners have escaped
    __________________

    They were probably let loose by the Muslim Brotherhood because many of them formerly incarcerated are members of the Brotherhood just waiting to add to the chaos and confusion.

  189. “potential revolution in Jordan”

    I know there have been some muslim brotherhood inspired protests in Jordon — pretty small, but from what I know of Jordon, the King and the queen, I forget her name, she’s palestian, they are very in touch with their citizens, the queen especially, there was a documentary a while back where they followed her for a week, she volunteers at soup kitches, hospitals, speaks out for women’s rights in Jordon.

    all this will show is who are the extremists in Jordon, but overall I don’t think there will be such a revolution in Jordan.

  190. Any independent thinking American should now have no doubt in their mind that Hillary or Mccain would have been much better than the incompetnent pathetic man that sits in the WH today.
    ————————-
    True. But put the blame on the people who installed him. Big media, the bankers, Immelt, Kennedy, et. al.

    If those elite interests were hell bent on installing their own puppet as president and to rig the entire game to that end, then by the Almighty they had a concomitant obligation to ensure that the puppet they installed was at a bare minimum a competent one who could perform the governing function. Instead they gave us a playboy with the attention span of a flea whose sheer incompetence puts everyone at risk.

  191. #
    moononpluto
    January 29th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Mrs Smith, however none of it is any use if the whole country descends into chaos, there will be no govt.
    ________________

    Oh, I didn’t mean for Jordan and Israel to handle the chaos in Egypt; the US is definitely going to have to be involved. The US cannot afford to let Egypt fall into the hands of Radical Muslims.

    What I meant by Jordan and Israel together is they will have to defend their countries back to back. Strategically, they are in a good position on three sides. The worry would be by SEA, if Iran is sending ships to the Suez that would open up a dangerous vulnerability to Israel.

  192. I’ve counted over 10,000 prisoners escaped and out tonight.

    Fucking crazy. Men with nothing to lose let loose, probably got the police guns and a private army but for who?

  193. #
    JanH
    January 29th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    The United States government CANNOT allow Iran to take over the Suez Canal.
    ______________________

    Exactly! Iran would love to form a blockade and create serious tumult. The US most definitely can kill 2 birds with one stone there. Get rid of Iranian gunboats and clean out the Brotherhood in Alexandria and Cairo at the same time. I hope Bill and Hillary are working overtime on this situation, which I am sure they are.

  194. Tim

    I wouldn’t be unhappy with a cable blackout for a week or so. We get more straight news ourselves on the web and can process information into meaningful discussion putting puzzle pieces together framing the drama as it happens and assign motive as well.

  195. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8290760/Locals-in-Sharm-el-Sheikh-convinced-Mubarak-is-holed-up-there.html

    The president is a frequent visitor to the resort and has hosted a number of world leaders there at his home, which is located inside the sprawling complex of a golf hotel.

    Last night the long entrance driveway to the residence was guarded by a small number of armed police who turned away all approaching vehicles.

    At the nearby main public entrance to the Maritim Jolie Ville Golf Hotel, guards refused to answer questions about the whether Mubarak was at home.

    A worker walking home from the hotel said: “You are not safe here.

    Everyone says he is here and so they are watching for people taking photographs.

    I think he is there because otherwise in Cairo he will be killed.

    “The crowds will not get him in Sharm because the roads all the way from Cairo are heavily guarded by roadblocks.

    “There are not enough people here to cause him harm, and too many police.”

    A tourist shuttle bus driver claimed to have seen Mubarak’s entourage arrive on Wednesday, and that his official plane was at Sharm-el-Sheikh airport but nobody at the airport would confirm if this was true.

    A number of military aircraft were visible from the perimeter fence, but the airport is frequently used by the armed forces for operations and for public airshows.

    ………………….

    and if need be, a boat waiting to take him to Saudi Arabia across the water. Perfect hiding. I thought he might be here.

  196. and if need be, a boat waiting to take him to Saudi Arabia across the water.

    ==============

    Or north to … a Greek island? :-/

  197. Or north to … a Greek island? :-/

    ………………………………………

    unless he wants to pass through the Suez canal…no.

  198. Good find, confloyd, thanks:

    posting the entire article:

    http://debka.com/article/20580/

    Iranian warships coming to Mediterranean and Red Seas (Suez)

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 23, 2011, 5:47 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Less than 24 hours after the breakdown of its nuclear dialogue with the six world powers in Istanbul, Iran announced plans Sunday, Jan. 23, to send a fleet of warships, including a home-made destroyer, on operational and intelligence-gathering missions to the Red Sea and on to the Mediterranean through the Suez Canal.

    debkafile’s military sources: Parts of the fleet will in fact be deployed in the three waters around Israel’s southern and western shores.

    Tehran is taking advantage of the lack of military and diplomatic momentum on the part of US and Israel for a naval thrust to expand its range of operations and encroach on their areas of control.

    It is also a rapid response to the arrival of the USS Enterprise carrier with a strike group carrying 6,000 sailors and marines and 80 warplanes in the Mediterranean at the end of last week on its way to the Arabian Sea opposite Iran. British ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair’s call on the West to stop apologizing and react to Iran with force was not lost on the rulers of the Islamic Republic.

    The Navy Commander, Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari spoke of three or four vessels including Iran’s first home-made destroyer, Jamaran, with back-up operational units standing by for urgent support missions.

    His deputy, Rear-Admiral Gholam Reza Bi-Gham said the deployment would last about a year and at some future time, long-distance submarines would join the fleet.

    Since Nov. 2008, the Iranian Navy has been conducting anti-piracy patrols between the Gulf of Aden Straits of Bab al-Mandeb off Yemen so some of its units are not far away.

    Both admirals reported that a flotilla of Iranian naval officer cadets would soon be dispatched to the Mediterranean and Red Seas to gain experience in these new areas and gather intelligence.
    Iran recently purchased three Kilo class submarines from Russia and is using them in the Persian Gulf. debkafile’s military sources report they belong to a bygone generation of subs and lack advanced electronic systems, making it hard for them to stay deep down underwater for long periods without surfacing.

    For two years, Iranian military shipyards have been building miniature submarines, war ships and fast assault craft. Most Western naval give them low ratings in performance especially in view of their outdated electronics.

    debkafile’s military sources, however, estimate that if deployed in support of the warships assigned to the Mediterranean and Red Seas, those mini-submarines and assault craft could be extremely troublesome and give plenty of headaches to American, Israel and Egyptian naval commanders.
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    No doubt about it- All preplanned…

  199. talk about chuztpah, and I mean that in a bad way.

    The Iranian govt is telling the Egyptian govt not to fire on their citizens.

  200. Jan H,
    I possibly think Obama is an undercover agent of MB…now I know that sounds nuts, but he just sits on stuff to long for me not to think of that.
    Carter was just incapable of confrontation…Obama isn’t like that…he lets all this happen thru sitting on stuff knowing full well what is about to happen.
    They’ve know those ships left and the unrest had begun…Poor Hillary is the only there trying to hold everything together…yes and had GWB not lit the match in this tenderbox…this would not be happening…but he was hired to do just that…lite the match…. GWB/Obama…one in the same!

  201. #
    JanH
    January 29th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    If they left for the Suez on the 23rd of January, why hasn’t obama done anything about it yet?
    ___________________

    We have deployed war ships due to Tony Blair’s prodding. But it seems it was done with reluctance because on the 23rd there was no sign of protests and demonstrations in Egypt.

    No doubt Obama’s fall back position was based in “for what reason? Or, we don’t want to incite by insulting the Iranians.” Whatever Obama is doing is a stall tactic. He may be very close to removal if this thing goes badly for Egypt. That is my next prediction. He has got to have The US Navy Commanders so freaking frustrated as well as Patreaus steaming at the lackadaisical way he is handling our National Security. Something is gonna give…

    “USS Enterprise carrier with a strike group carrying 6,000 sailors and marines and 80 warplanes in the Mediterranean at the end of last week on its way to the Arabian Sea opposite Iran. British ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair’s call on the West to stop apologizing and react to Iran with force was not lost on the rulers of the Islamic Republic.”

  202. tim,
    The Iranians are real good at getting the splinter out of everyone else eye, while they have a timber in theirs….but then again all Dictatorial governments think that way….its the way Odumbo thinks!

  203. Mrs. Smith
    January 29th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    ——————-

    And could this be the part that Hillary disagrees with him about?

    I wouldn’t be surprised.

  204. The only place Obama should be right now is in the War Room… planning US strategy. Don’t tell me he’s at a fundraiser- or sermonizing at a Town Hall.

    Obama is in a very precarious position right now. If he doesn’t produce what he promised the Muslim Brotherhood, he’s dead meat. If he doesn’t behave like a former US President would, protecting US interests around the World, he’s dead meat. Seems he’s done a good job of painting himself into a corner with so many eyes on his actions and behavior he must be chain smoking a pack every few hours unable to get or take advise especially from Hillary because he is, how you say…. phucked, no matter which way he turns.

  205. jbstonesfan,

    You couldn’t be more right. I wonder how the American Jews who voted for him are feeling right now.

  206. Tim,

    Thanks for posting the weaselzipper link. I just saw how and where Obama is conducting a meeting with his advisers. Really and truly, he should be in the War room. He needs to physically see our warships moving into place in the Med and have retaliation plans in place if this thing blows up. He doesn’t have any time left to think how the US should respond.

    This could be it for him. Where is he going to hide? With Mubarek? How fast can Michelle pack a suitcase without an entourage?

  207. It’s very sad JanH….you and I seem to “get it”, but most of my Jewish acquaintances /relatives are still hard core Obama supporters. It is so bad I don’t even discuss politics with these people anymore as it tends to make me extremely angry and dislike people I previously cared for.

  208. Mrs. Smith
    January 29th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    “How fast can Michelle pack a suitcase without an entourage?” LOL! Well sleeveless dresses do tend to pacl lightly, so I’ve heard. LOL!

    notice how Mr.Waffles has that thumb over forefinger in the picture, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a teleprompted there as well, I know he did when he was speaking to his cabinet the last time he spoke with all of them, which was many months ago.

    Actually, I’ll bet some arugula that the photographer asked him to pose like that then took the picture, the military people there were just the background.

  209. Mrs. Smith,
    You know about waffles being in the War Room, well do you think he’s capable of those kinds of plans? He can’t think on his feet…we all saw that at the debates and now during news conferences. He can’t keep anything straight…he even mixes up his kids names with his sister’s….so maybe its better if Hillary and Gates handle everything and they can duck tape the “one’s” mouth shut, while they keep us safe!

    This man is in way over his head and is too stupid to realize it! It’s at our peril that he is left in charge!

  210. tim,
    I bet your right…he is just the personality…that’s it! Then he sticks his nose into things at the most inopertune times and freaks crap up!

    Duck Tape would work wonders in the WH!

  211. confloyd
    January 29th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    You know about waffles being in the War Room, well do you think he’s capable of those kinds of plans? He can’t think on his feet…we all saw that at the debates and now during news conferences. He can’t keep anything straight…he even mixes up his kids names with his sister’s….so maybe its better if Hillary and Gates handle everything and they can duck tape the “one’s” mouth shut, while they keep us safe!
    _____________________

    Confloyd, he dug himself into a hole. You know what the old saying is… when the opposition is in a hole, you let him keep on digging.

    It’s when push comes to shove is when he will be the most vulnerable and they will push him to the brink of a nervous breakdown. They are waiting for him to cry ‘uncle’, asking for help and someone else to do his thinking for him… This will be his Waterloo.

    I’m sure contingency plans are being made unbeknown to him but will not be revealed until and unless he falters.

  212. “I’m sure contingency plans are being made unbeknown to him but will not be revealed until and unless he falters.”

    Agreed.

  213. OOp, Masterpiece Classic is on…

    ‘Downton Abbey’.

    A welcome diversion from the RW-

    Have a good night everyone…

  214. He can’t think on his feet
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    Moses told his people get off your ass, get on your camel, I am your leader, we are headed to the Promised Land.

    Obama told his people sit on your ass, light up your camel, I am the Messiah, this is the Promised Land.

    But don’t hold me to any of those promises–I was just campaigning–as my good friend Austen Goolsbee will tell you.

    This Egypt thing? It will pass. I am more concerned with my Chicago Bulls and who they will be starting.

  215. I truely have no words anymore. I hope this woman runs, if she does I will fundraise like nothing else for her! These people are truely some of the most digusting humans in this country.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703956604576110100251027150.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

    “Montana-childrens-theater-play-calls-for-beheading of Sarah Palin.”
    ————————
    I agree. I will fundraise for her as well. But I disagree that her detractors are disgusting humans. They are sub-humans who belong in a cage.

  216. And praytell what does the great Leslie Gelb former head of the Council of Foreign Relations, foreign policy analyst emeritus for the New York Times–or grey lady if you prefer, and blind supporter of Barack Hussein Obama until recently say this little footnote which by some escaped the eagle eye of our loyal patriotic big media–I wonder why.

    “THE NOW WIDESPREAD OPINION IN THE CAIRO ELITE THAT THE UNITED STATES AIDED THE FOMENT” (Against an ALLY in the middle east)

    It just goes to show that you can have all the degrees in the world and all the recognition on the planet. Bankers, politicians, academicians, reporter too lazy to do their own research, and the whole world can beat a path to your door. But if you do not have a little thing called common sense and if you cannot read people you have got nothing.

    This is not rocket science. We (Soros + Brzezniski + Rand Institute + Open Society + rogue elements of the CIA did the same thing in: i) Russia–failed, ii) Ukraine (Orange Revolution)–succeeded, iii) Georgia (Rose Revolution)–succeeded, iv) Lebanon (Cedars Revolution–failed), v) United States (Obama coup)–succeeded, vi) Iran (failed when he walked away, vii) and now in Egypt. The pattern, with variation, is clear and unmistakable. Put differently, there is a rational basis for this belief and in time the story will emerge. In the meantime Obama has lost a partner for peace and created an implacable adversary. Through his perverse machinations laziness and stupidity Obama has obliterated legacy of Sadat, and reinstated the legacy of Nassar in that critical country. Russia and China will become their new found friends. The sentence cited above assures it, and there is nothing Hillary can do to prevent it. Obama and his cronies have screwed the pooch.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/01/29/junta-cairo-open-thread/#more-55939

    Nota bene: “And what of POTUS Obama (pictured with Hosni Mubarak in happier times during the 2009 Cairo speech adventure) and the now-widespread opinion in the Cairo elite that the US aided the foment? Unknown.”

  217. When Zeib Brzezneski appears to “explain” the situation in the middle east tomorrow, it is important to know something about his backround. He is a descendant of Polish nobility who were ousted when the soviets moved in and for that reason he has harbored a life long grudge against Russia. For that reason, he and the CIA crew he commanded unleashed the forces of radical muslim against the soft underbelly of the Soviet Union. He and Soros served together on the Council of Foreign Relations, and his partner in crime openly refers to the old soviet empire as the Soros Empire. These are the forces reshaping the world yet our benighted big media refuses to touch them with a 10 foot pole. Part of the reason for this is big media mavens like Bill Moyer, Tom Browkaw and Joe klein sit on his boards and draw paychecks. Also, Soros owns an interest in 273 newspapers in 170 countries–so he controls the board. Just as he controls the democratic party.

  218. This real story here will not come out in big media. Rather it will come out in AJ. And when it does, you will know it is true by how vociferously the Obama regime denies it.

  219. “What’s Behind Egypt’s Problems?”

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7425

    The bottom line: >21% population increase since 2000, net decreased revenues from energy exports, rapidly rising food and energy costs, govt debt, etc., etc….These problems are only going to get worse and no change of govt can solve theses basic problems.

  220. I can’t believe anyone would think topling this govt. would be a good idea….with all the unrest over there…its just crazy…but like I said who ever controls the Suez Canal controls the world….you betcha!

    That’s what Soros wants and he doesn’t care if its a total Theocracy in the middle east…I bet Hillary is worrying herself sick over the women and girls over there…probably why she’s stuck it out so long!

    Zbigs on TV tomorrow too??

  221. Caught off guard . . . because he was watching basketball rather than doing his job. Which is why he sends Hillary in to do the job that he should be doing himself–facing the press and answering their questions. The question I have for him is who is he to be telling other nations that they must accept reform. If he tells them he is president they will laugh in his face and say perhaps but the world knows how you got there and who you really represent. So don’t try to bullshit us./
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    White House wobbles on Egyptian tightrope
    Washington needs a friendly regime in Cairo more than it needs a democratic government

    Simon Tisdall
    guardian.co.uk, Friday 28 January 2011 18.20 GMT
    Article history

    Caught off guard by the escalating unrest in Egypt, the Obama administration is desperate to avoid any public appearance of taking sides. But Washington’s close, longstanding political and military ties to President Hosni Mubarak’s regime, plus annual financial support worth about $1.5bn, undermine its claims to neutrality.

    While the US favours Egyptian political reform in theory, in practice it props up an authoritarian system for pragmatic reasons of national self-interest. It behaved in much the same way towards Saddam Hussein’s regime in the 1980s, when Iraq was at war with Iran. A similar tacit bargain governs relations with Saudi Arabia. That’s why, for many Egyptians, the US is part of the problem.

    Like tottering tightrope walkers, the balancing act performed by Barack Obama and the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, has been excruciating to watch. When the protests kicked off, Clinton urged all parties “to exercise restraint”. This phrase is useful when politicians are unsure of their ground.

    Clinton also struck a lopsided note. “Our assessment is that the Egyptian government is stable and is looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people,” she said. Against a backdrop of street battles, beatings-up, teargas, flying bricks, mass detentions and attempts to shut information networks, her words sounded unreal, even foolish.

    Mohamed ElBaradei, the establishment rebel who joined the protests, was flabbergasted. “If you would like to know why the United States does not have credibility in the Middle East, that is precisely the answer,” he said.

    Clinton’s emphasis shifted the next day, as if to correct the balance. Mubarak must allow peaceful protests, she said. “I do think it’s possible for there to be reforms and that is what we are urging and calling for.”

    Today she said: “We are deeply concerned about the use of violence by Egyptian police and security forces against protesters. We call on the Egyptian government to do everything in its power to restrain security forces.” Still she tried to face both ways: “At the same time, protesters should also refrain from violence and express themselves peacefully.”

    Obama maintained he had “always” told Mubarak that reform was “absolutely critical”. But he also wobbled back in the other direction, saying the Egyptian leader was a good friend. “Egypt’s been an ally of ours on a lot of critical issues. Mubarak has been very helpful,” Obama said.

    Amid the juggling, one fact may be pinned down: the US would not welcome Mubarak’s fall and the dislocation a revolution would cause in Egypt and across a chronically unstable region. Gradual reforms of the kind Clinton discussed in a recent speech in Doha about the Arab world, and a competitive presidential election this autumn, would probably be Washington’s preferred prescription. As matters stand now, this is the least likely outcome.

    Either the regime will suppress the unrest, possibly by ever more brutal means, as happened in Iran in 2009; or the uprising will spiral out of control and the regime will implode, with unpredictable consequences, as in Tunisia. In this latter scenario, one outcome could be a military takeover in the name of national salvation. It has happened before in Egypt, in 1952, when the Free Officers Movement forced King Farouk to abdicate. If it happened again, the US might be expected to endorse it.

    That’s because, in the final analysis, the US needs a friendly government in Cairo more than it needs a democratic one. Whether the issue is Israel-Palestine, Hamas and Gaza, Lebanon, Iran, security for Gulf oil supplies, Sudan, or the spread of Islamist fundamentalist ideas, Washington wants Egypt, the Arab world’s most populous and influential country, in its corner. That’s the political and geostrategic bottom line. In this sense, Egypt’s demonstrators are not just fighting the regime. They are fighting Washington, too.

  222. Egypt’s demonstrators are not just fighting the regime. They are fighting Washington, too.
    —————————————–
    And yet, the Cairo elites believe Washington fomented this revolt. That means we will be distrusted by both sides, courtesy of Obama.

  223. I can’t believe anyone would think topling this govt. would be a good idea
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    It is more a question of what is the motive. What we have seen many times in the past is that great banking houses were the clandestine supporters of such revolutions, which were couched in terms of support for democracy. In fact, the New York banking House of Schiff bankrolled the Russian Revolution (along with the Kaisers boys) and the banking House of Cunin Nagel financed the Cuban revolution. The former commandant of the Marine Corps and recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor Smedley Butler once described himself as nothing more than a thug for banking and commercial interests when he fought in the banana wars and overthrew regimes. The apparent belief by Cairo elites that the United States helped foment this revolt by the Muslim Brotherhood may be based simply on the Cairo speech or there may be more to it. We have some lose canons in this Administration, both at the ambassador level and at the deputy secretary of state level–meaning Posner. However, my sense is that the fine hand of Soros is behind it, with his open society programs and his colors revolution tactics. What his particular motive might be in this instance is unclear however. And as noted above Bznezski is the man who was instrumental in unleashing the forces of radical muslim, and anything he might say about this must be discounted accordingly. I do not know what the motive was in this instance, but sure as night follows day there was one. And it was perverse. If there is something to this I am quite sure AJ will put a spotlight on it. If not it will survive as a bias against the United States in general and the Obama regime in particular.

  224. They are doing their best to try and shut down Al Jazeera and they are staying on air no matter what they throw at them.

  225. long but very informative

    http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2011/01/the-pragmatic-fantasy.php
    The pragmatic fantasy
    By Caroline Glick:
    January 28, 2011

    Today the Egyptian regime faces its gravest threat since Anwar Sadat’s assassination 30 years ago. As protesters take to the street for the third day in a row demanding the overthrow of 82-year old President Hosni Mubarak, it is worth considering the possible alternatives to his regime.

    On Thursday afternoon, Egyptian presidential hopeful Mohammed ElBaradei, the former head of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency returned to Egypt from Vienna to participate in anti-regime demonstrations.

    As IAEA head, Elbaradei shielded Iran’s nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He repeatedly ignored evidence indicating that Iran’s nuclear program was a military program rather than a civilian energy program. When the evidence became too glaring to ignore, Elbaradei continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran and obscenely equated Israel’s purported nuclear program to Iran’s.

    His actions won him the support of the Iranian regime which he continues to defend. Just last week he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran telling the Austrian News Agency, “There’s a lot of hype in this debate,” and asserting that the discredited 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate that claimed Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2003 remains accurate.

    Elbaradei’s support for the Iranian ayatollahs is matched by his support for the Muslim Brotherhood. This group, which forms the largest and best organized opposition movement to the Mubarak regime is the progenitor of Hamas and al Qaida. It seeks Egypt’s transformation into an Islamic regime that will stand at the forefront of the global jihad. In recent years, the Muslim Brotherhood has been increasingly drawn into the Iranian nexus along with Hamas. Muslim Brotherhood attorneys represented Hizbullah terrorists arrested in Egypt in 2009 for plotting to conduct spectacular attacks aimed at destroying the regime.

    Elbaradei has been a strong champion of the Muslim Brotherhood. Just this week he gave an interview to Der Spiegel defending the jihadist movement. As he put it, “We should stop demonizing the Muslim Brotherhood. …[T]hey have not committed any acts of violence in five decades. They too want change. If we want democracy and freedom, we have to include them instead of marginalizing them.”

    The Muslim Brotherhood for its part has backed Elbaradei’s political aspirations. On Thursday it announced it would demonstrate at ElBaradei’s side the next day.

    Then there is the Kifaya movement. The group sprang onto the international radar screen in 2004 when it demanded open presidential elections and called on Mubarak not to run for a fifth term. As a group of intellectuals claiming to support liberal, democratic norms, Kifaya has been upheld as a model of what the future of Egypt could look like if liberal forces are given the freedom to lead.

    But Kifaya’s roots and basic ideology are not liberal. They are anti-Semitic and anti-American. Kifaya was formed as a protest movement against Israel with the start of the Palestinian terror war in 2000. It gained force in March 2003 when it organized massive protests against the US-led invasion of Iraq. In 2006 its campaign to get a million Egyptians to sign a petition demanding the abrogation of Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel received international attention.

    Many knowledgeable Egypt-watchers argued this week that the protesters have no chance of bringing down the Mubarak regime. Unlike this month’s overthrow of Tunisia’s despot Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, they say there is little chance that the Egyptian military will abandon Mubarak.

    But the same observers are quick to note that whoever Mubarak selects to succeed him will not be the beneficiary of such strong support from Egypt’s security state. And as the plight of Egypt’s overwhelmingly impoverished citizenry becomes ever more acute, the regime will become increasingly unstable. Indeed, its overthrow is as close to a certainty as you can get in international affairs.

    And as we now see, all of its possible secular and Islamist successors either reject outright Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel or will owe their political power to the support of those who reject the peace with the Jewish state. So whether the Egyptian regime falls next week or next year or five years from now, the peace treaty is doomed.

    SINCE THE start of Israel’s peace process with Egypt in 1977, supporters of peace with the Arabs have always fallen into two groups: the idealists and the pragmatists.

    Led by Shimon Peres, the idealists have argued that the reason the Arabs refuse to accept Israel is because Israel took “their” land in the 1967 Six Day War. Never mind that the war was a consequence of Arab aggression or that it was simply a continuation of the Arab bid to destroy the Jewish state which officially began with Israel’s formal establishment in 1948. As the idealists see things, if Israel just gives up all the land it won in that war, the Arabs will be appeased and accept Israel as a friend and natural member of the Middle East’s family of nations.

    Peres was so enamored with this view that he authored The New Middle East and promised that once all the land was given away, Israel would join the Arab League.

    Given the absurdity of their claims, the idealists were never able to garner mass support for their positions. If it had just been up to them, Israel would never have gotten on the peace train. But lucky for the idealists, they have been able to rely on the unwavering support of the unromantic pragmatists to implement their program.

    Unlike the starry-eyed idealists, the so-called pragmatists have no delusions that the Arabs are motivated by anything other than hatred for Israel, or that their hatred is likely to end in the foreseeable future. But still, they argue, Israel needs to surrender.

    It is the “Arab Street’s” overwhelming animosity towards Israel that causes the pragmatists to argue that Israel’s best play is to cut deals with Arab dictators who rule with an iron fist. Since Israel and the Arab despots share a fear of the Arab masses, the pragmatists claim that Israel should give up all the land it took control over as a payoff to the regimes, who in exchange will sign peace treaties with it.

    This was the logic that brought Israel to surrender the strategically priceless Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in exchange for the Camp David accord that will not survive Mubarak.

    And of course, giving up the Sinai wasn’t the only sacrifice Israel made for that nearly defunct document. Israel also gave up its regional monopoly on US military platforms. Israel agreed that in exchange for signing the deal, the US would begin providing massive military aid to Egypt. Indeed, it agreed to link US aid to Israel with US aid to Egypt.

    Owing to that US aid, the Egyptian military today makes the military Israel barely defeated in 1973 look like a gang of cavemen. Egypt has nearly 300 F-16s. Its main battle tank is the M1A1 which it produces in Egypt. Its navy is largest in the region. Its army is twice the size of the IDF. Its air defense force constitutes a massive threat to the IAF. And of course, the ballistic missiles and chemical weapons it has purchased from the likes of North Korea and China give it a significant stand-off mass destruction capability.

    Despite its strength, due to the depth of popular Arab hatred of Israel and Jews, the Egyptian regime was weakened by its peace treaty. Partially in a bid to placate its opponents and partially in a bid to check Israeli power, Egypt has been the undisputed leader of the political war against Israel raging at international arenas throughout the world. So too, Mubarak has permitted and even encouraged massive anti-Semitism throughout Egyptian society.

    With this balance sheet at the end of the “era of peace,” between Israel and Egypt, it is far from clear that Israel was right to sign the deal in the first place. In light of the relative longevity of the regime it probably made sense to have made some deal with Egypt. But it is clear that the price Israel paid was outrageously inflated and unwise.

    IN CONTRAST to the Egyptian regime, as the popular outcry following Al Jazeera’s publication of the
    Palestinian negotiations documents this week shows, the Fatah-run Palestinian Authority is as weak as can be. Yitzhak Rabin, the godfather of the pragmatist camp famously argued that Yassir Arafat and Fatah would handle the Israel-hating Palestinian Street, “without the Supreme Court and B’Tselem.”

    That is, he argued that it made sense to surrender massive amounts of strategically critical land to a terrorist organization because Arafat and his associates would repress their people with an iron fist, unfettered by the rule of law and Palestinian human rights organizations.

    And yet, the fact of the matter is that Arafat commanded the terror war against Israel that began in 2000 and transformed Palestinian society into a jihadist society that popularly elected Hamas to lead it.

    The leaked Palestinian documents don’t tell us much we didn’t already know about the nature of negotiations between Israel and Fatah. The Palestinians demanded that the baseline of talks assume that all the disputed territories actually belong to them. And for no particular reason, Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert agreed to these historically unjustified terms of reference.

    While this was well known, in publishing the documents, Al Jazeera has still made two important contributions to the public debate. First, the PA’s panicked reaction to the documents exposes the ridiculousness of the notion that the likes of Mahmoud Abbas, Saeb Erekat and Salam Fayyad are viable partners for peace.

    Not only do they lack the power to maintain a peace deal with Israel. They lack to power to sign a peace deal with Israel. All they can do is talk – far away from the cameras – about hypothetical, marginal concessions in a peace that will never, ever be achieved. The notion that Israel should pay any price for a deal with these nobodies is completely ridiculous.

    The Al Jazeera papers also expose Livni’s foolishness. Just as she failed to recognize the inherent weakness of the Lebanese state when she championed UN Security Council Resolution 1701 which called for the Hizbullah-dominated Lebanese army to deploy to the border with Israel at the end of the 2006 war, so Livni failed to understand the significance of the inherent weakness of Fatah as she negotiated away Gush Etzion and Har Homa.

    And she didn’t need Al Jazeera’s campaign against the PA to understand that she was speaking to people who represent no one. That basic fact was already proven with Hamas’s victory in the 2006 elections.

    THE TRUTHS exposed by the convulsive events of the past month make it abundantly clear that Israel lives in a horrible neighborhood. It is a neighborhood where popular democracy means war against Israel.

    In this neck of the woods, it is not pragmatic to surrender. It is crazy.
    Originally published in The Jerusalem Post.
    *****

    Egypt riots are an intelligence chief’s nightmare
    Western intelligence in general and Israeli intelligence in particular did not foresee the scope of change in Egypt, which may require a reorganization of the IDF.
    By Amos Harel
    29.01.11
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/egypt-riots-are-an-intelligence-chief-s-nightmare-1.340027

    The events of the last few days in Egypt – apparently the most important regional development since the Islamic revolution in Iran and the Egyptian-Israeli peace deal of 1979 – are also an expression of the decision-makers’ nightmare, the planners and intelligence agents in Israel.

    While in other countries many are watching with satisfaction at what looks to be possibly the imminent toppling of a regime that denied its citizens their basic rights, the Israeli point of view is completely different.

    The collapse of the old regime in Cairo, if it takes place, will have a massive effect, mainly negative, on Israel’s position in the region. In the long run, it could put the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan in danger, the largest strategic assets after the support of the United States.

    The changes could even lead to changes in the IDF and cast a dark cloud over the economy.

    Western intelligence in general and Israeli intelligence in particular did not foresee the scope of change in Egypt (the eventual descriptor “revolution” will apparently have to wait a little longer). Likewise, almost all of the media analysis and academic experts got it wrong.

    In the possible scenarios that Israeli intelligence envisioned, they admittedly posited 2011 as a year of possible regime change – with a lot question marks – in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, but a popular uprising like this was completely unexpected.

    More than this, in his first appearance at a meeting last Wednesday of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee the new head of military intelligence Major General Aviv Kochavi said to member of Knesset, “There are currently no doubts about the stability of the regime in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood is not organized enough to take over, they haven’t managed to consolidate their efforts in a significant direction.”

    If the Mubarak regime is toppled, the quiet coordination of security between Israel and Egypt will quickly be negatively affected. It will affect relations between Cairo’s relationship with the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip, it will harm the international forces stationed in Sinai.

    It will mean the refusal of Egypt to continue to allow the movement of Israeli ships carrying missiles through the Suez canal, which was permitted for the last two years, according to reports in the foreign press, in order to combat weapons smuggling from Sudan to Gaza. In the long run, Egypt’s already-cold peace treaty with Israel will get even colder.

    From the perspective of the IDF, the events are going to demand a complete reorganization. For the last 20 years, the IDF has not included a serious threat from Egypt in its operational plan.

    In the last several decades, peace with Cairo has allowed the gradual thinning out of forces, the lowering of maximum age for reserve duty and the diversion of massive amounts of resources to social and economic projects.

    The IDF military exercises focused on conflict with Hezbollah and Hamas, at most in collusion with Syria. No one prepared with any seriousness for a scenario in which an Egyptian division would enter Sinai, for example.

    If the Egyptian regime falls in the end, a possibility that seemed unbelievable only two or three days ago, the riots could easily spill over to Jordan and threaten the Hashemite regime. On Israel’s two long peaceful borders there will then prevail a completely different reality.
    ******

    Egyptian update
    From Sheila Raviv’s blog:
    29th January 2011

    I was asked an excellent question today. “What is more dangerous, an Arab dictatorship or an Arab democracy”? I believe the latter.

    Jonathan Mann of CNN suggested that the situation in Egypt bears no resemblance to that of Iran during the reign of the Shah. “Egypt has an educated middle class and has known many years of freedom, even under Mubarak” and what does he think Iran was like during the time of the Shah? Iran was a dictatorship, and not necessarily a benign dictatorship, but it was not a religiously oppressive country either. Business and education thrived and relationships with the West ensured modernisation.

    The greatest mistake the West makes is to assume that democracy ensures freedom; democracy cannot ensure freedom unless those elected into power honour the rights of all their subjects. Carter did it in Iran by removing the Shah (unquestionably a tyrant) and after student and popular rebellion he installed the Ayatollahs giving them the power and finances to wreak havoc in the West and control the Arab world. That mistake brought us Hezb-Allah , the demise of Christian Lebanon and Hamas, Islamic Jihad and, indeed Al Qaeeda.

    We are faced with a popular revolution, with good cause, against the dictatorial regime of Hosni Mubarak. However if the West, led by the United States, does not enter the fray NOW we may see Egypt go the way of Iran. Diplomatic and economic support for Mubarak under the proviso that he hold elections within 6-8 months may just save the day. Promises of reform and extra financial aid to the poor to appease the middle class instigators could just defuse the situation. Mubarak is not a good man, but he is a leader who has kept his country from war, built a strong economy and held the fundamentalist threat at bay. Mubarak is a pragmatic leader; the tough broker for peace in the region, who growled “Chtom ya kalb” (sign you dog) when Arafat threatened to walk out of talks with Israel after days of negotiations; it is Mubarak who is acting as the go-between for the West to the Arab world.

    If US influence is important and since the USA gives no less than $1.3 billion in aid to Egypt the situation presents a rare opportunity to demand protection for the Egyptian Christian community which has been decimated to the silence of the media and apathy of our leaders.

    Changes have been made in government and Egypt’s former air force chief and minister for civil aviation, Ahmed Shafiq, has been designated the new prime minister by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and asked to form the next Cabinet, and Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman was appointed vice president, a position that has been vacant for the past 30 years

    With 500,000 soldiers the army is very much part of Egyptian society, maybe one of the few elements which binds them; most families have someone in the Egyptian military. The police are patently absent from the crowd control situation, hated by the populace for their sheer everyday brutality.

    Wisely Prime Minister Netanyahu has distanced himself and Israel from the Egyptian arena. The last thing we, or Mubarak, need is to make this about the Arab Israeli conflict.

    May G-d protect them and us from extremists and death-wishers
    Sheila

    For those who like percentages and statistics
    The Moslem Brotherhood is the strongest opposition bloc which presents greater problem since there is no charismatic leader to take over from Mubarak leaving these fundamental extremists waiting in the wings.
    Recent polls of the Egyptian population suggest that-
    30 % are pro HezbAllah
    49 % are pro Hamas
    20 % are pro al-Qaeeda.
    82 % want stoning for those who commit adultery;
    77 % want to see whipping and hands cut off for robbery or theft;
    84 % favour the death penalty for any Moslem who changes his religion.
    27 % support modernisation while 59 % want traditional or fundamental Islam:
    That means that a popular revolution is unlikely to bring democracy –

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  226. The military is terrorising the protestors with low fly buzzing of them by military jets.

    Egypt is lost.

  227. Here’s an interesting and informative piece by Juan Cole:

    Egypt’s Class Conflict
    Posted on 01/30/2011 by Juan

    On Sunday morning there was some sign of the Egyptian military taking on some security duties. Soldiers started arresting suspected looters, rounding up 450 of them. The disappearance of the police from the streets had led to a threat of widespread looting is now being redressed by the regular military. Other control methods were on display. The government definitively closed the Aljazeera offices in Cairo and withdrew the journalists’ license to report from there, according to tweets. (Aljazeera had not been able to broadcast directly from Cairo even before this move.) The channel, bases in Qatar, is viewed by President Hosni Mubarak as an attempt to undermine him.

    Why has the Egyptian state lost its legitimacy? Max Weber distinguished between power and authority. Power flows from the barrel of a gun, and the Egyptian state still has plenty of those. But Weber defines authority as the likelihood that a command will be obeyed. Leaders who have authority do not have to shoot people. The Mubarak regime has had to shoot over 100 people in the past few days, and wound more. Literally hundreds of thousands of people have ignored Mubarak’s command that they observe night time curfews. He has lost his authority.

    Authority is rooted in legitimacy. Leaders are acknowledged because the people agree that there is some legitimate basis for their authority and power. In democratic countries, that legitimacy comes from the ballot box. In Egypt, it derived 1952-1970 from the leading role of the Egyptian military and security forces in freeing Egypt from Western hegemony. That struggle included grappling with Britain to gain control over the Suez Canal (originally built by the Egyptian government and opened in 1869, but bought for a song by the British in 1875 when sharp Western banking practices brought the indebted Egyptian government to the brink of bankruptcy). // continues at link. This is about 1/3 of it.

    http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/egypts-class-conflict.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+juancole%2Fymbn+%28Informed+Comment%29

  228. I truly think we have lost Egypt, its lost.

    The administration is completely worried now.

    Hillary Clinton just issued a new statement : “We do not want to see the country be taken over and not become a democracy”

    Obama has screwed it up, he pushed this, he gets the consequences.

  229. wbboei, When you use “AJ” are you referring to Aljazeera? (I’m not sure, but can’t be Alex Jones, alternative journalism?) Just trying to follow your meaning. Thanks.

  230. Hillary now says “we wish to see an orderly transition of govt in Egypt”.

    This basically means, the govt is toast, they have given up on them. What happens now, God help us.

  231. The main issue with Waffles is since 2009, more and more leaders in the Middle East as well as the rest of the world recognize this man DOES NOT have America’s interest, oh yes, he will do the cursury things, but deep down he does not have America’s best interests at heart.

    That could not be said about Bush 1, Bill Clinton, Bush 2, Mccain or Hillary or Sarah Palin. All these Americans when the cards were laid on the table would 100% do everything in their power to promote and defend America and her interests, their own reputations be damned.

    This is not the case with Mr.Waffles, people hated Bush, but they also in the ME feared him because they knew he would not take chit when American interests were at stake.

    Mr.Waffles belives in Waffle’s Exceptionalism, not American Exceptionalism, Mr. Waffles is more concerned with his own “historic” reputation around the world, if that means throwing American interests under the bus, so be it.

    Now millions of Americans know this, I’m sure those who were duped into voting for him know this as well, but now the world know this is the case.

    Just like a child knows if his/her parents do not have his/her interests at heart, America sees this about Mr. Waffles concerning American interests, but even important considering the current events, the world now sees this as well and they will take full advatange of this, to the detrimental of America and her citizens.

  232. The international community is missing in action, this is state sponsored terrorism happening in Egypt, Where is the UN, where is the President.

  233. Bibi is going with the cooler heads prevail tactic. Which is a smart move. He can’t go around accusing everyone, assigning blame for leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood’s advancement into civilian protests. When you begin accusing the US, Brezinski, citing his past history or Obama, by virtue of the Cairo speech, touching every possible base throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. Bibi knows in the real world you need to provide concrete proof when you accuse. It just isn’t done. (he reminds his ministers in the news release)
    _____________________

    Netanyahu on Egypt unrest: Aim is to maintain stability

    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    01/30/2011 11:52

    In first official comments on anti-gov’t protests in Egypt, PM stresses importance of preserving peace, cites conversations with Obama, Clinton.

    In his first official comments on the situation in Egypt, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Sunday that Israel is “anxiously monitoring” the anti-government protests.

    “Our efforts are designed to continue and maintain stability and security in our region,” the prime minister said during the weekly cabinet meeting.

    On Saturday “I spoke with US President Barack Obama and US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton. I also held consultations with Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman and with Israeli intelligence officials,” Netanyahu said.

    “I remind you that the peace between Israel and Egypt has endured for over three decades and our goal is to ensure that these relations continue,” the prime minister explained.

    ***Netanyahu advised ministers not to express their personal opinions on the tensions because of the sensitivity of the issue. “Of course, at this time, we must show maximum responsibility, restraint and sagacity and, to this end, I have instructed my fellow ministers to refrain from commenting on this issue. Naturally, we are also holding consultations in the appropriate government forums,” he said.****

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=205841

  234. Why this is happening – Egypt, etc.

    You have young people, particularly between the ages of 18-25, who are despondent, who are set to explode… We are seeing explosions of frustration and anger all over the world, because the entire global system is dying, particularly in the trans-Atlantic region and much of the developing sector.

    In a very real sense, what we are seeing on the streets of Egypt is a vote of no confidence in President Obama. Both the Obama Administration, and the British who control Obama, have failed miserably, and we have now reached a point of social explosion. The cumulative impact of the failed economic policies, the imperial looting, the sense of no-future for young people, no matter how well-educated they may think they are; all of these factors have reached a breaking point.

    The unfolding events in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Yemen, and many other places, are not the result of some clandestine plot. None of the usual suspects are behind these upsurges. This is the lost generation, the no-future generation, erupting. I have been warning for quite some time that, unless we have a total overhaul of global policy, beginning with a bankruptcy reorganization that wipes out all the tens of trillions of dollars in worthless gambling debts, we are going to be immediately facing French Revolution-type explosions everywhere. We are headed for a new Dark Age of social chaos and mass genocide. This is what we are dealing with, not some so-called color revolutions. And the fact that President Obama is a pawn of the British, and has so far followed British orders to kill any efforts by American patriots to re-enact Glass Steagall* and wipe out the gambling debts, is why we are facing this calamity today.

    * The British actually did. This has been documented to my satisfaction, though I can’t prove it to anyone else. The government said reenacting Glass-Steagall would be tantamount to an act of war. -o’han

    Otherwise, the above are Lyn LaRouche’s words. I don’t claim to have figured it out.

    These damned psychopaths are expert at f^<king thing things up. They are expert at starting wars ("let's you and him fight"). They are expert at looting and subverting or taking control of institutions. They are experts at monetary manipulations and "trading in the free market." They are experts at grabbing money and trinkets and industries and power, but they have not understanding of how the universe actually works, or how to run a system in accord with reality. Their damned empire is crumbling, and they are trying all their tricks, but it's out of hand.

  235. “Netanyahu on Egypt unrest: Aim is to maintain stability”

    Yep, trust Bibi to try and bring come calm to all this. Just like he did at the UN 2 years ago.

  236. Admin. My just submitted post has evaporated without as much as an “in moderation” notice. I don’t know if I should try to recreate it (a little less passionately) or if you can release it. Can you see it/ edit a bit if necessary and release it? Thank you.

  237. this Mohammed Elbaradei fellow sure is pushing for himself, isn’t he, considering he didn’t even live in that country for the past decade.

  238. Why is this happening? Egypt, etc.? (alternate hypothesis)

    You have young people, particularly between the ages of 18-25, who are despondent, who are set to explode, over the horrible state of affairs that they have been dealt. We are seeing explosions of frustration and anger all over the world, because the entire global system is dying, particularly in the trans-Atlantic region, and throughout much of the developing sector.

    Both the Obama Administration, and those who control Obama, have failed miserably, and we have now reached a point of social explosion. The cumulative impact of the failed economic policies, the imperial looting, the sense of no-future for young people, no matter how well-educated they may think they are; all of these factors have reached a breaking point.

    The unfolding events in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Yemen, and many other places, are not the intentional result of some clandestine plot. None of the usual suspects are behind these upsurges. This is the lost generation, the no-future generation, erupting. Unless we have a total overhaul of global policy, beginning with a bankruptcy reorganization that wipes out all the tens of trillions of dollars in worthless gambling debts, we are going to be immediately facing French Revolution-type explosions everywhere. We are headed for a new Dark Age of social chaos and mass genocide. This is what we are dealing with, not some so-called color revolutions. And the fact that President Obama is a pawn who has so far followed British orders* to kill any efforts by American patriots to re-enact Glass Steagall and wipe out the gambling debts, is why we are facing this calamity today.

    The above are basically Lyn LaRouche’s words. I don’t claim to have figured it out, but it seems correct to me.

    *This has been confirmed to my satisfaction, though I can’t prove it to others. The British government said they would consider reenacting Glass-Steagall as tantamount to an act of war.

    The psychotic Masters of the Universe, expert as they may be at geopolitical manipulations, getting wars started and profiting from them, looting whole continents and smaller areas, taking over industries, destroying or subverting institutions, manipulating currencies and manipulating or destroying nations thereby, don’t know diddly about how to actually make things work IN REALITY. They are like a deadly virus in civilization–the one that we may have thought wasn’t so great, but didn’t know what we had till it’s gone one. The whole system they’ve been toying with so proudly is now crumbling down. They have lost control.

    (This is an attempt to recreate the post that evaporated when I submitted it 30 minutes ago.)

  239. Obama getting it with both barrels from a lot of directions.
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    He deserves it. He lit this fire. While he stood there like a collossus strattling the world, and delivered the dog whistle speech is Cairo he planted these seeds. You cannot be a revolutionary on the one hand, and friend of revolutionaries, and also be president of the United States without engendering these kinds of storms. You must measure your worlds with circumspection. Especially given the factors shv alludes to above–a growing population and a declining economy and a radical religious presence. The trick for the west is to build prosperity in that part of the world and to carefully manage our way through this demographic bubble. It is not to disparage your own country and call for a revolt against the established order which is essentially what he did. In this part of the world, stability rests on a thin reed and for the sake of his own ego and delusional view of foreign policy he uprooted it. No wonder the elites in Cairo blame the US for fomenting this. His word and his deeds were the catalyst.

  240. Netanyahu advised ministers not to express their personal opinions on the tensions because of the sensitivity of the issue.
    ————————
    Are you listening Obama?“

  241. tim
    January 30th, 2011 at 9:20 am
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    From this day forward I shall think of you as Dr. Tim, because you have provided the right diagnosis. Far better than we shall see from the cover his ass media. Brilliant.

  242. ohanson
    January 30th, 2011 at 9:14 am
    wbboei, When you use “AJ” are you referring to Aljazeera? (I’m not sure, but can’t be Alex Jones, alternative journalism?) Just trying to follow your meaning. Thanks.
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    Aljazeera

  243. ohanson
    January 30th, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Why is this happening? Egypt, etc.? (alternate hypothesis)

    I generally agree with that explanation. It draws its essence from reality, and the observations of LL and WT. There is another source of support however. His name is Sam Hunnington a Harvard professor and member of the American Enterprise Institute who I have relied on for some of my less intemperate comments about the middle east, and what Obama is doing wrong–not that Hunnington ever said that himself–he merely articulated the premise against which Obama’s gross negligence and malpractice can be measured. At or near the time he articulated this premise, the intellectual elites like Tom Friedman and his ilk were wandering around in a trance proclaiming the end of history and the future belonged to markets. This nonsense was thorougly debunked by Hunnington in his excellent book: The Clash of Civilizations and The Remaking of the World Order. But the end of history premise remains the fight song of globalists who have economic interests they wish to pursue, and for them the idea of a single global marketplace with no borders is manna from heaven. Here is Hunnington link in case you wish to investigate this matter further:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash_of_Civilizations

  244. Hillary just nailed the little pist ant David Gregory, LOL!

    “David, you can’t keep putting works in my mouth”, You gotta love Hillary…David looks like a whipped little boy when she did that…Ha, ha, ha!

  245. wbboei
    January 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Thank you for the kind words, right back at you Dr. Wbboei.

    This blog has to be one of the best on the internet, I learn so much here than I ever do on the lame Obot Media.

    confloyd — LOL! go Hillary! stupid Obot worshiping Gregory, maybe Hillary should ask him if he wants her to fluff a pillow for him to sit on. Waffles is hiding behind Hillary’s pantsuit, nothing new there.

  246. I hate that little fucker Gregory….he almost as bad as the last pig that “Timmy” fellow. Hillary and I have to say now McConnell is speaking with one voice with Hillary…which is good. The situation in Cairo is so touchy that they don’t need to let the media here to put words in the mouths of our politicians!

    BTW, Hillary looks fabulous this morning…she did not look tired…however she did look serious and on top of everything….SHE LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL!!!

  247. Go Hillary. I was switching between the 3 networks when they were interviewing her and when I saw David Gregory ratcheting it up in his interview, I turned the channel so I missed her put him in his place.

    In ther round table Meet the Press had the usual lame stream media types like Chuck Todd and after talking a little bit about Egypt, they went to the SOTU speech and Obama’s re-election campaign. Predictable.

    On abc Christian Amenpour is back in the action reporting in Egypt where she is most happy and Jake Tapper did the show from stateside.

  248. Obama Doctrine is Failing in the Middle East
    Posted January 29th, 2011 at 2:09pm in American Leadership 3 Print This Post

    The Middle East was meant to be the crowning achievement of the Obama Doctrine. Once in the White House, President Obama focused laser-like on a “charm offensive” with Iran. When voices rose against the regime in Tehran in the wake of a disputed national election, Obama offered virtually no support for the cries for freedom. Nevertheless, the “playing nice initiative” with Tehran fell flat. Today, the regime is more aggressive than ever—backing a terrorist take-over of the government in Lebanon, snubbing Western nuclear negotiators, and promoting an Islamist agenda across the region.

    The other prong of the president’s outreach offensive was to throw all his energies into the peace negotiations between Palestine and Israel. Obama’s initiative, however, lacked new and constructive ideas. He has been equivocal in his support for Israel. The White House has failed to press for a hard line against Hamas, an avowed terrorist organization. The results here were all too predictable as well. The president has nothing to show for two years of inept effort.

    Obama also bought into the false belief that improving relations between Palestine and Israel was the solution to “all problems” in the Middle East. That simplistic notion masks the serious challenges in the region—lack of healthy civil societies, a paucity of economic freedom, exploding demographic growth, endemic unemployment, environmental troubles, lurking Islamism, terrorism, and troublemaking from Iran. Much the enmity expressed against the West is more properly the product of homegrown problems. Yet, Obama has done little to address these issues other than try to solve them all with a single speech in Cairo.

    While the troubles sweeping the Middle East today are the result of the failure of the regimes to provide liberty and opportunity to their own peoples, this administration’s halting and tentative response is emblematic of a White House that lacks a serious plan for dealing with a part of the world where the US has vital strategic interests.

    It is time for Obama to jettison the Obama Doctrine, a policy of mostly talk, in favor of a strategy that treats the Middle East as more than a distraction.

    A new approach can start with Egypt where the White House needs to set clear and unequivocal expectations for how the government in Cairo should treat its own people.

    Next, the Administration must make clear it will finish the job in Iraq and keep the U.S. forces and resources in place that the government in Baghdad needs to complete its transition to a secure and sovereign state that can protect itself and look after the needs of its own citizens.

    Obama must also revitalize the partnership with Israel. Israel remains America’s most important and reliable ally in the region.

    And the White House must go after the regime in Iran. Sanctions and political isolation have hurt Iran, but the administration has been reluctant to press for further sanctions or ensure the full implementation of the ones on the books. That is a huge mistake. The most effective means to tame the regime in Tehran and help lay the foundation for its eventual demise is to stiffen U.S. resolve to isolate and punish the regime for fostering terrorism, promoting an Islamist agenda, pursuing nuclear weapons, and causing suffering and loss of liberty to the Iranian people.

  249. Obama : Epic FAIL

    “In the streets of Cairo, many protesters are now openly denouncing the United States”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/29/AR2011012904417.html?wprss=rss_world

    More Egyptian protesters demand that White House condemn Mubarak

    “You see,” the 50-year-old lawyer said, displaying the items. On the bottom of each were the words “Made in the USA.”

    “They are attacking us with American weapons,” he yelled as men gathered around him.

    In the streets of Cairo, many protesters are now openly denouncing the United States for supporting President Hosni Mubarak, saying the price has been their freedom. They say the Obama administration has offered only tepid criticism of a regime that has received billions of dollars in U.S. aid.

    The United States walks a fine line between a weakened leader and the pro-democracy protesters who could overthrow him. But the prospect of Mubarak being ousted by a movement that feels ignored by the United States raises questions about future relations between Washington and a strategic ally in a volatile region of the world.

    “Tell America that we get to choose our president,” Manshawi said. “We choose him, not them.”

    Many protesters said they were stirred by the death of Khaled Said, an activist who was beaten to death by security forces last year. He became a symbol of abuse at the hands of the security forces under Mubarak.

    “We want a government elected by the people, not a government dictated to the people,” said Mohammed Ramadan, 40, an accountant who was demonstrating along the Nile on Saturday, as he has for the past five days.

  250. Good article- Republicans want privatization. TSA director says forget it-
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    TSA shuts door on private airport screening program

    January 29, 2011

    Washington (CNN) — A program that allows airports to replace government screeners with private screeners is being brought to a standstill, just a month after the Transportation Security Administration said it was “neutral” on the program.

    TSA chief John Pistole said Friday he has decided not to expand the program beyond the current 16 airports, saying he does not see any advantage to it.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/01/29/tsa.private/index.html?hpt=T2

  251. confloyd
    January 30th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    The man is backed by the Muslim Brotherhood, he does not really care about egypt, he sides with Iran, hasn’t really lived in Egypt for the past decade, he is trying to be the face of the opposition, he is not!

  252. makes me wonder all those Egyptian elitist families who have now fled Egypt on their private jets what they think of Waffles, considering most of them backed him internationally in 2008.

  253. Well I wonder if it will come to a head today…they are getting Americans out of Egypt starting tomorrow….well it must be getting worse!

  254. “Al Jazeera is showing El Baradei on the streets.”

    Wait until Egyptians find out he’s not on their side either, he sides with Iran. And never taken any interest in Egypt’s wellbeing, nothing but another power hungry politician.

  255. Egypt’s Elbaradei tells crowds in central Cairo “what we have begun cannot go back”

    No shit, this is the endgame, its all or nothing.

  256. “Tunisian Islamist leader Rachid Ghannouchi returns home”

    “The leader of Tunisia’s main Islamist movement has returned home after 22 years in exile following the ousting of President Ben Ali earlier this month.

    More than 1,000 people were at the main airport in Tunis to welcome Rachid Ghannounchi as he arrived from London.

    Mr Ghannouchi, 69, says his Ennahda party intends to work for the popular uprising that toppled Mr Ben Ali.’
    (snip)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12318824

    The “Domino Theory (effect)” didn’t prove to be accurate in the 50’s and 60’s; I suspect that this theory may have a better chance with North Africa/ME and the Islamists.

  257. Mrs. Smith
    January 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Sure, I will try and find some links, I mainly get my info from my friend who is an American of Egyptian descent. He’s (ElBaradei) not openly against teh egyptian people, from what I can understand Egypt is a pretty secular nation, most do not like the Muslim Brotherhood, nor do they want them in charge, just because he no longer want Mubarack in charge either. They want some say in who runs the country, the elections have been a sham all these years.

    Have to go to work now, but I will try and post some later on.

    Have a good day everyone.

  258. Also found this:
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    The NeoCons’ Long Animosity towards Mohamed el Baradei

    January 28, 2011

    As Siun noted yesterday, Mohamed el Baradei issued a statement critical of US support for Hosni Mubarak in advance of returning to Egypt (and, as of now, being put under house arrest).

    Of course, you in the West have been sold the idea that the only options in the Arab world are between authoritarian regimes and Islamic jihadists. That’s obviously bogus. If we are talking about Egypt, there is a whole rainbow variety of people who are secular, liberal, market-oriented, and if you give them a chance they will organize themselves to elect a government that is modern and moderate. They want desperately to catch up with the rest of the world.

    It’s not at all clear that Baradei will serve as the kind of leader in Egypt that he seems to want to. But given that Baradei is one of the few opposition leaders the US press seems to understand, I think it worthwhile to review the Neocons long-standing attacks on him.

    Though the US first supported Baradei’s election to head the IAEA, US support for him soured when, in 2003, he called bullshit on the US propaganda meant to justify our invasion of Iraq, most notably when he declared the Niger case to have been based on amateurishly forged documents.

    Based on available evidence, the IAEA team has concluded that Iraq’s efforts to import these aluminium tubes were not likely to have been related to the manufacture of centrifuges and, moreover, that it was highly unlikely that Iraq could have achieved the considerable re-design needed to use them in a revived centrifuge programme.

    [snip]

    The IAEA has made progress in its investigation into reports that Iraq sought to buy uranium from Niger in recent years. The investigation was centered on documents provided by a number of States that pointed to an agreement between Niger and Iraq for the sale of uranium between 1999 and 2001.

    The IAEA has discussed these reports with the Governments of Iraq and Niger, both of which have denied that any such activity took place. For its part, Iraq has provided the IAEA with a comprehensive explanation of its relations with Niger, and has described a visit by an Iraqi official to a number of African countries, including Niger, in February 1999, which Iraq thought might have given rise to the reports. The IAEA was also able to review correspondence coming from various bodies of the Government of Niger, and to compare the form, format, contents and signatures of that correspondence with those of the alleged procurement-related documentation.

    Based on thorough analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents – which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger – are in fact not authentic. We have therefore concluded that these specific allegations are unfounded.

    Baradei followed that up by refusing to make the sweeping condemnations of Iran’s nuclear enrichment programs the US wanted him to.

    As a result, in the months leading up to the election for his third term, the US tried everything it could to prevent Baradei’s reelection as head of IAEA. As part of that effort, the US scrutinized their wiretaps of Baradei in an unsuccessful attempt to try to find material they could use to claim bias on his part.

    The Bush administration has dozens of intercepts of Mohamed ElBaradei’s phone calls with Iranian diplomats and is scrutinizing them in search of ammunition to oust him as director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, according to three U.S. government officials.

    [snip]

    The intercepted calls have not produced any evidence of nefarious conduct by ElBaradei, according to three officials who have read them. But some within the administration believe they show ElBaradei lacks impartiality because he tried to help Iran navigate a diplomatic crisis over its nuclear programs. Others argue the transcripts demonstrate nothing more than standard telephone diplomacy.

    Shortly after his reelection, the Nobel committee awarded Baradei the peace prize.

    And the NeoCon campaign against Baradei hasn’t let up. On several occasions in 2007, John Bolton publicly accused Baradei of coddling Iran.

    BOLTON: Mohamed ElBaradei is an apologist for Iran. He has taken positions in flat violation of three Security Council resolutions, and he needs to learn that he works for the member governments of his agency, not the other way around.

    BLITZER: But he got a second term. They voted. Despite the Bush administration’s opposition, he was reelected to a second term.

    BOLTON: He got a third term, actually, which is even worse.

    BLITZER: Third, and so there — he does have the confidence of some people.

    BOLTON: I don’t think we were effective in our campaign to oppose him. I don’t think that he did nearly what we should have done, and I think we are paying the price now and will pay it into the future.

    BLITZER: But, you know, in fairness to Mohamed ElBaradei, before the war in Iraq, when Condoleezza Rice and the president were speaking about mushroom clouds of Saddam Hussein and a revived nuclear weapons program that he may be undertaking, he was saying there was absolutely no such evidence. He was poo-pooing it, saying the Bush administration was overly alarming and there was no nuclear weapons program that Hussein had revived. He was right on that one.

    BOLTON: Even a stopclock is right twice a day.

    [snip]

    BLITZER: So you don’t believe, obviously, this guy, anything he’s basically saying?

    BOLTON: I think he’s actually undermining the credibility of the IAEA by his overly politicized role in the Iran crisis.

    Now, as I said, Baradei may end up being a minor figure among opposition leaders for Egyptians. But as NeoCons weigh in on the possibility of democracy in Egypt, it’s worth remembering anti-democratic campaign NeoCons have sustained against the best known Egyptian opposition leader to Americans.

    http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/01/28/the-neocons-long-animosity-towards-mohammed-el-baradei/

  259. Al Jazeera just interveiwed prisoners who escaped from the Cairo prisons last night and now already back in Gaza. They were Army of Islam terrorist prisoners and vowed to keep on attacking Israel, so lets face it, a lot of very dangerous terrorists got away last night. He said there were 1,200 prisoners in his section, all islamic prisoners.

    1200 islamic terrorists let loose in 1 go,

    Israel must be real happy with Obama right now.

    (puts head in hands)

  260. Hillbuzz is moving to a new website, and is finally going to take Hillary off the header. Thank goodness. She probably never heard of them, but I’m sure she would have been aghast to see her picture at the top of a far right website. I’m so glad they’re finally changing the header.

  261. Tim, I think your friend has been giving you wrong information. You might want to read these posts and rethink your position based on good sound information for further discussion.
    __________________________

    A Manifesto for Change in Egypt

    by Mohamed ElBaradei

    On the eve of his return, the former U.N. official who is the Mubarak regime’s most high-profile opponent shared his thoughts on the young people who’ve taken to the streets, political Islam, and the role of the United States. Plus, full coverage of the protests in Egypt.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-26/mohamed-elbaradei-the-return-of-the-challenger/
    ______________

    I have great respect for someone that will put their lives on the line to let the Truth be heard. ElBaradei seems to be doing just that- (If my impressions are wrong, please correct me.)

  262. “1200 islamic terrorists let loose in 1 go”

    ——————–
    DO we know how they got out? Who is responsible for this?

    I can see Israel going on their highest alert now. This has Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah written all over it.

  263. Mrs. Smith,

    I am concerned about ElBaradei’s link to the Muslim Brotherhood. He has met with them recently. They have gone back and forth on whether they will support him.

    It’s just very questionable for me.

  264. Until we know how this thing shakes out it would be foolish to cut off aid. This aid gives us some leverage once the current situation cools down. We do not need another adversary in this part of the world, but given the prevailing view in Cairo, we are likely to get one courtesy of our revolutionary president Barack Hussein Obama. Dollars to donuts his real father is Franklin Marshall Davis.

  265. Muslim Brotherhood is calling for all opposition groups to unite and admits that El Barabei is the leader of the opposition. (Al Jazeera)

  266. Mrs. Smith
    January 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Thanks. I will read it, as I mentioned my info is from a friend, and he seems very set in his opinions, and I have trust in his judgements as he lived in egytpt for a while.

    But, I’d like to read my own information and see what is the real deal, so to speak, so thanks for those links I will take a look at them when I get a chance.

  267. The “Domino Theory (effect)” didn’t prove to be accurate in the 50’s and 60’s; I suspect that this theory may have a better chance with North Africa/ME and the Islamists.
    ———————————————
    Yes. There is a profound difference between the spread of economic theory of Marxism and the spread of religious doctrine. The latter appears to something universal in human nature, it answers the mystery of life–and death, the challenges of modernization, identity and all that. The deterrent is not secular liberalism and capitalism. Those forces do not exert the same grip over the human psyche. And they tend to create few winners and many losers–and the more the middle class erodes the truer that observation becomes. The deterrent is a competing religion with an equivalent hold on the human imagination which answers those same questions of life in a different way. One of the things that makes Islam so attractive to so many is it is an opposition religion, and it does not ask that much from its followers. It is how it gets interpreted that is the problem. Sharia Law, 20 virgins and all that. Today there are a billion Muslims in the world, including Obama. During the 8th century they spread to all corners of the known world. This could happen again. Certainly Barack Hussein Obama has opened to door to them in the United States, and I have not forgotten my promise to find the blog which asserts that he has set aside 20 billion to bring Hamas people over here. I was told about this and I will find out Thursday perhaps whether this is true.

  268. #
    JanH
    January 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    I am concerned about ElBaradei’s link to the Muslim Brotherhood. He has met with them recently. They have gone back and forth on whether they will support him.

    It’s just very questionable for me.

    _________________________

    Yes, JanH, I am as well.

    I have the latest from Aljazeera. My sense is The Muslim Brotherhood is climbing on the bandwagon with the grass roots protesters blending in with the uprising. It is only in this instance that the Muslim Brotherhood is associated with ElBaradei. I’ve read 7 articles prior and not one linking him to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    You have to realize the US does not want ElBaradei any part of the Egyptian government, much less it’s president. It behooves the US to try to use associations to confuse the issue. This is why I checked what Aljazzera has to say about it…

    We have to wait and see-

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011130165636218719.html

  269. wbboei, I wish it were not 1:00 a.m. on Sunday-Monday here. Thank you for the Huntington stuff. I do appreciate your offering it and always look forward to reading your posts.

    I haven’t read Huntington, but have him as a proponent of the dictatorial imposition of free
    trade, a cooker-upper of asymmetric warfare and buddy of Brzezinski, but all that is 2nd hand. Actually, I’ve read bits, years ago and struck me as academic sophistry (a better men than I would tackle it and argue it, but when I smell it I usually tend loose all patience.)

    I just looked at the wiki link. I’ll stand with Said, whom I have read some:

    Edward Said issued a response to Huntington’s thesis in his own essay entitled “The Clash of Ignorance.”[10] Said argues that Huntington’s categorization of the world’s fixed “civilizations” omits the dynamic interdependency and interaction of culture. All his ideas are based not on harmony but on the clash or conflict between worlds. The theory that each world is “self-enclosed” is applied to the world map, to the structure of civilizations, to the notion that each race has a special destiny and psychology.[11] According to Said, it is an example of an imagined geography, where the presentation of the world in a certain way legitimates certain politics. Interventionist and aggressive, the concept of civilizational clash is aimed at maintaining a war time status in the minds of the Americans. Thus, it continues to expand the Cold War by other means rather than advancing ideas that might help us understand the current scene or that could reconcile the two cultures.[11]

    “As a genuine advocate of the often-elusive dialogue of religions and cultures, Pope John Paul II once observed: “A clash ensues only when Islam or Christianity is misconstrued or manipulated for political or ideological ends.” This insight – most applicable to the current crisis – perfectly mirrors that of Edward Said dispelling the myth of the Clash of Civilizations as a mere clash of ignorance.”

    —Hatim Salih

    Finally (if you haven’t given up on me for my curtness and other bad qualities), I was searching to find something on who influenced Hunnington, which I can’t quite recall, but think it was imperialesque, and came across this review I’d read of one of Huntington’s books by Andy C., who is no slouch, a thoroughgoing humanist historian:

    What Do You Mean, `We’?
    Book Review by Anton Chaitkin
    Who Are We?—The Challenges to America’s National Identity
    by Samuel P. Huntington
    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/book_reviews/3120who_are_we.html

    I’d much rather talk with you than sleep to face pressing duties. Goodnight, my friend.

  270. “You have to realize the US does not want ElBaradei any part of the Egyptian government, much less it’s president. It behooves the US to try to use associations to confuse the issue.”

    —————————-

    Exactly. But I think it is too late.

  271. Also, ElBaradei is not a supporter of Israel, he gave a speak recently, someone here posted it some posts ago, but I remember thinking if this was the same man who hed the IAEA.

  272. You have got to bitch slap people like David Gregory and Chuck Todd when they pull their usual crap and try to put words in your mouth. They are irresponsible and useless people and their machinations can cause irreparable harm in situations like this. This is why I am adverse to having responsible people even go on their programs.

    Question: confloyd, do you recollect what words this little bastard tried to put in Hillary’s mouth? I would be very curious to know because it may reflect the globalist strategies of his handlers–Immelt et. al., or it may just be idiosyncratic.

  273. wbboei – I’ve always wondered – how does “bitch slap” differ from “slap”? Everyone always says “bitch slap” and I have no idea what it means… although I have a suspicion it may be misogynist in origin….?

  274. ElBaradei hates the U.S. and Israel.

    We have Bolton to thank for that. During his tenure, the U.S. was the only country to push for not reappointing ElBaradei to the IAEA. Bolton masterminded that.

  275. ohanson
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
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    Thank you for providing me with some insight I did not have.

  276. lorac
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    wbboei – I’ve always wondered – how does “bitch slap” differ from “slap”? Everyone always says “bitch slap” and I have no idea what it means… although I have a suspicion it may be misogynist in origin….?
    ———————————
    Lorac: google to the rescue . . .

    According to the urban dictionary, bitch slap means:

    To open handedley slap someone. Denote disrespect for the person being bitch slapped as they are not worthy of a man sized punch. Suggests the slap was met with little resistance and much whining.

    The original derivation was sexist and it was known by its opposite which is a pimp slap. But over the course of time, the term has become gender neutral. Today, it is more often applied to men.

    The reason is works well in this context is because Gregory is a little wimp, not worthy of a real slap, and he is by all accounts a whiner. Perfect speaking agent for NBC.

  277. the end of history stuff is nonsense like you said. But I think Sam H is too
    ——————————
    Well, I think you are wrong.

  278. so saturday morning spent watching his kid’s b-ball game while the security team held a 2 hr meeting.

    saturday night, spent with jour-o-lists watching another b-ball game at a party. Thank Goodness at least Greta was invited and she actually reported on this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//110129/480/urn_publicid_ap_org_ea6bff0ba7b5497e8f0f42ab55f8ef98/

    what a pathetic loser this man is. I don’t remember Bill Clinton or George Bush being this negligent about anything this serious.

  279. ohanson
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    _____________________

    But lets play it the other way. Lets assume you are right. Give me an alternative template which does not implicate the Queen of England, because for me that is a bridge too far, although I do accept the premise of global banker influence bordering on control.

  280. Israeli analysts fear Islamic takeover in Egypt

    By Steve Weizman (AFP) – 2 hours ago

    JERUSALEM — Israel’s leaders anxiously watched events in Egypt on Sunday as analysts warned that if a new leadership was dominated by Islamists it could threaten 30 years of peace between the two neighbours.

    As the wave of unprecedented protests continued to engulf Egypt, Israeli officials have been nervously eyeing developments and assessing the likely impact on ties.

    “We are attentively following what is going on in Egypt and in our region,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday after holding late-night talks with US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    “Peace between Israel and Egypt has existed for more than three decades and our aim is to ensure that these relations continue to exist,” he said.

    Israel’s two top-selling dailies ran the same banner headline on their front pages on Sunday, proclaiming “A New Middle East” and raising the spectre of Islamic fundamentalists filling the political vacuum left by the expected end of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s autocratic rule.

    “In this kind of chaotic situation, the advantage of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood is that they are the most organised and also the most resolute,” said Benjamin Miller, a Haifa University expert on Middle East conflicts and security.

    Even though Muslim Brotherhood activists had not so far been prominent in the demonstrations, the group had the advantage of having a widespread political infrastructure already in place, he said.

    Israel, which is already facing hostile Islamic groups in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, is deeply concerned at the prospect of Islamic gains in Egypt, with which it shares its longest border.

    But aware of the hypersensitivity of Israel’s relations with the Arab world, Netanyahu ordered his cabinet ministers to make no public statements on the issue, a move which Miller said was wise.

    “Interference in the domestic affairs of another state is always sensitive, especially if it’s an Arab state, especially if it’s the most important Arab state,” Miller said.

    “Definitely Israel is not an asset for any group. Israel is not a winning card domestically.”

    Writing in the top-selling daily Yedioth Aharonot, Eli Shaked, a former Israeli ambassador to Cairo, said that if free elections were held in Egypt the outcome would be inevitable.

    “The most likely result will be that the Muslim Brotherhood will win a majority and will be the dominant force in the next government, he said.

    “That is why it is only a question of a brief period of time before Israel’s peace with Egypt pays the price.”

    Egypt became the first Arab nation to make peace with Israel in 1979, having fought three costly wars with the Jewish state since it was founded in 1948, but relations remain largely cool.

    In 1994 Jordan became the second and so far the last Arab state to make formal peace with Israel.

    “If the Muslim Brotherhood is going to win and become the dominant group, obviously there will be a major deterioration in Egyptian-Israeli relations,” Miller said.

    “It doesn’t mean that there will be a war immediately or in the foreseeable future — even the Muslim Brotherhood shares some interests in avoiding war,” he added.

    “But all this pro-Western, anti-Iranian coalition of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Israel will be undermined.”

    However, Yoram Meital, of Ben Gurion University in southern Israel, told AFP that a victory for the Muslim Brotherhood should not be seen as a foregone conclusion.

    While they dominated opposition to Mubarak’s draconian regime, a more open political system could engender a different kind of politics, he said.

    “What I read is that within a very short time we will get a different political context,” he said.

    “In this context, other sectors — including the silent majority of the Egyptian people — would play a significant role.”

    Meital suggested there could be a future alliance between the Brotherhood and Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate and former UN chief nuclear inspector who has emerged as a dissident leader in his homeland.

    “Dr ElBaradei initiated a dialogue, a very constructive one, with the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt about six months ago and in recent days they coordinated some of their moves,” he added.

    “I would not exclude the possibility that if (presidential) elections take place in Egypt, the Brotherhood would not nominate someone from their ranks but would support someone like Baradei.”

    On Sunday, Egypt’s National Coalition for Change that groups the Brotherhood and other opposition movements charged ElBaradei with negotiating with Mubarak’s embattled regime, Islamist leader Saad al-Katatni told AFP in Cairo.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hkXdfZPq-0a1ZMaY73CxaDMt-r_A?docId=CNG.39f39538caefa02425961c94edf9bff7.b1

  281. ok, I have read up more El-Baradei, he actually seems rather fair, but I wonder how much he will be able to control the radical elements? But still there are speeches where he contradict each other, so am unsure where he really stands.

    Still need to read up more on him to get a clearer picture. Well, have to get going now.

  282. #
    JanH
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    ElBaradei hates the U.S. and Israel.

    We have Bolton to thank for that. During his tenure, the U.S. was the only country to push for not reappointing ElBaradei to the IAEA. Bolton masterminded that.
    ______________________________

    Here is the fly in the ointment between ElBaradei and Israel. ElBaradei was the director of the Nuclear non-proliferation Treaty. The following is his statement made in 02/09′ and link
    _____________________

    “What compounds the problem is that the nuclear non-proliferation regime has lost its legitimacy in the eyes of Arab public opinion because of the perceived double-standards concerning Israel, the only state in the region outside the NPT and known to possess nuclear weapons,” he wrote.”

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/02/16/idINIndia-38051120090216

  283. Confloyd: what was the core message or talking points Hillary conveyed in the five interviews she gave today? Did she leave you with the impression that the Obama Regime has a handle on the situation and a clear strategy moving forward? Or are they being swept along with the course of events, and temporizing in the meantime. Her comments would be of some interest here in the United States, but of far greater interest in the middle east where they will be carefully parsed. Meanswhile, the neocons are loving this. Elliot Abrams is proclaiming this as the vindication of Bush who he claims believed that the Arab world longed for democracy and this revolt is evidence of it. If the end result is a regional upheaval and victory for the Muslim Brotherhood, then you can be sure good old Eliott will day we have got to launch military strikes. They tie the name neo con on Bolton but this is ignorance. He is a bigger thinker than that, which does not mean I always agree with him. He at least had the audacity to suggest what I believe to be true, that Obama helped trigger this “change” inadvertently. And it appears that the Cairo elites believe at least that much, and probably more.

  284. tim
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    ok, I have read up more El-Baradei, he actually seems rather fair, but I wonder how much he will be able to control the radical elements? But still there are speeches where he contradict each other, so am unsure where he really stands.
    ___________________

    The fact that ElBaradei stood up to Bush’s contention Hussein had WMD short of outright calling him a LIAR…. when what Bush was doing at the time, lying to the American people to get the vote for a preemptive strike on Iraq. ElBaradei’s contention was “we have to give the inspectors a chance to search for the WMDs before the US use’s the last resort of going towar with Iraq.”

    ElBaradei calling Bush out and the repercussions to ElBaradei after that is more meaningful and an indication, the man is a fair man.

    I understand Israel’s position and I understand ElBaradei’s point as well taken.

  285. JanH
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Israeli analysts fear Islamic takeover in Egypt

    By Steve Weizman (AFP) – 2 hours ago
    —————————-
    Yes Jan. That seems to me the most likely scenario. The military takes over. The botherhood may have infiltrated them already. More street riots. At the end of the day, you cannot hold back a tidal wave with a bayonette. That tidal wave was precipitated by the perceived decline in American power in the region, the humiliation of Obama by Iran, the failure to achieve a settlement in Palestine and Barack’s great inspiring Cairo speech. If you google that speech you will find it has been so polished and fictionized by bots that one would think that he spoke, the Arab world saluted Israel fell in line behind him because the master spoke. Well how now brown cow. If you are going to impute cause and effect to his words, then it is more plausible that it was a dog whistle and got people in a frame of mind to kick out western influence. And that is an interesting point, because Obama came along after the civil rights movement but he assimilated the views of his alleged father which were anti colonialist in hue and tone. That is not unlike the liberation which is about to occur here thanks to Barack.

  286. tim
    January 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    ok, I have read up more El-Baradei, he actually seems rather fair, but I wonder how much he will be able to control the radical elements? But still there are speeches where he contradict each other, so am unsure where he really stands.

    Still need to read up more on him to get a clearer picture. Well, have to get going now.
    __________________

    During the lead up to the Iraq war, I was most impressed with El-Baredei. If he does manage to become the head of Egypt I hope he remains the kind of person I believe he is. Up until now I have been very impressed with him .

  287. During the lead up to the Iraq war, I was most impressed with El-Baredei. If he does manage to become the head of Egypt I hope he remains the kind of person I believe he is. Up until now I have been very impressed with him .
    ————————-
    Interesting. I hope this proves out.

  288. With Barack it always comes back to one simple proposition: under promise and over deliver. Never the reverse.

  289. wbboei, thanks for the explanation. I’m not sure how it really differs from plain old “slap”, though, except an emphasis on the misogynistic underpinnings. I just don’t like sayings that seem based on the assumption that if a man isn’t manly enough, he is like a woman, which is second class. I guess I just won’t be using the term lol but thanks for getting back to me!

  290. I’m hoping that ElBaradei has learned the political game of stigmatizing through associations. I find it more believable the Muslim Brotherhood is associated with our president than him. And the swiftness with which the media flooded the airwaves tying ElBaradei to radical militants stunning. This happening, as soon as ElBaradei got the go ahead for negotiations with Mubarek.

    The events preceding ElBaradei’s announcement and the media frenzy is reminiscent of exactly what happened to Sarah Palin minutes after the Tuscon massacre. A little Truth inflated to a bridge too far in reality.

    I may be all wrong in the final analysis but my sense for now is.. I’m not. We have to wait and at least see what ElBaradei conclusions are in the final negotiations with Mubarek.

  291. #
    wbboei
    January 30th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    With Barack it always comes back to one simple proposition: under promise and over deliver. Never the reverse.
    ______________________

    Are you sure you mean that?

  292. moononpluto,

    your persepctive is absolutely invaluable. More, please.

    I saw HRC smack Gregory down this morning, too. Later, she did the same thing when Candy Crowley tried to bum rush her. Crowley finally shut her big yap and let HRC have the floor, as it should be.

    Interestingly, I saw Boehner on Chris Wallace this morning and he put a stop to some of Chris’s jabs in a similar way to which HRC handled Gregory and Crawley. It’s about friggin’ time those twerps were put in their place. (Not Chris, so much, and he’s not nasty like the others but just hearing adults take charge was so refreshing).

  293. WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama has been calling foreign leaders to spread word of the U.S. administration’s desire for restraint and an orderly transition to a more responsive government in Egypt.

    ……………………………………….

    well, i wonder what number on his list this was, after a slurpee, ice cream, basketball, walking the dog, scraping up dog pooh, dinner cates, Axelrods leaving party.

  294. Obama talks the talk but can’t walk like an Egyptian, maybe when he was finished talking to World leaders he could have passed the phone to Mooshelle so she could lecture them on diets and arugula.

    I bet they have been fistbumping a lot this wekend.

  295. wbboei
    January 30th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Obama lit this fire. While he stood there like a collossus strattling the world, and delivered the dog whistle speech is Cairo he planted these seeds. You cannot be a revolutionary on the one hand, and friend of revolutionaries, and also be president of the United States without engendering these kinds of storms.

    ==================

    Tragically right.

    He (and his campaign) inspired youth revolutions which he then betrayed. (Iran a couple of years ago, now Egypt.)

  296. ohanson
    January 30th, 2011 at 10:03 am
    My just submitted post has evaporated without as much as an “in moderation” notice.

    =================

    That happens sometimes, to many of us, for no discernable reason. A precaution is always before you hit Send, first hit Ctl-A then Ctl-C. This copies the post into your computer’s memory so you can repost it easily.

    If you forget to do that, sometimes you can use your Back icon to get back to the page with your post still in the “Submit Comment” box, then proceed as above.

  297. in the real world you need to provide concrete proof when you accuse.

    ==================

    What a concept.

  298. Wbboei, I’m not real sure about it, but I think he was trying to get her to commit that she wanted to keep Mubarak in office, but I’m not sure! She put him in down quickly, he was rewording the same question which she caught on to very quickly….that’s what got her to say that to him.

  299. so president boy-wonder started this whole thing with his stupid speech 20 months ago, no plans, nothing, just some flowery speech, cuts funding for pro-democracy movements at the same time slamming America.

  300. At the end of the day, you cannot hold back a tidal wave with a bayonette.

    =================

    So look what they used in Tienaman Square and lately Tehran.

  301. Somehow, I’m just leary of ElBaradei….why I don’t know? I guess he an Obama puppet?? Maybe that’s it. He did however tell the truth to Bush, but he still scares me!

    We just can’t have some MB head of Egypt…that would be a disaster and we have all these undercover MB’s.

  302. basil9,
    Lets just say it…Potus is a disgusting little whimp! I can’t wait until I never have to see his face on the tube again, of coarse look they still put on Carter….we’ll be putting up with that “shit eating grin” for a long, long time! Gak!

  303. Mrs. Smith,
    It is thundering and lightning here and the weatherman expects snow by Wednesday….you wouldn’t be pushing all that nasty weather down South would you….LOL???

  304. Clinton hails cholera progress in Haiti
    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    PORT-AU-PRINCE — Touring a cholera clinic, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday hailed the news that the wave of cholera that has killed more than 4,000 Haitians since October is receding.

    “I want to first of all express my great appreciation and admiration for everyone working to stem and then reverse the cholera epidemic,” Clinton said in baking heat outside the tent-like structure.

    She reiterated the US commitment to Haitians’ health needs “and other needs that are present and in many ways exacerbated by the continuing efforts at reconstruction and redevelopment following the earthquake.”

    Only five percent of Haiti has been rebuilt since the January 12, 2010 quake struck, killing more than 220,000 people and leaving 1.3 million people homeless.

    “It’s a good news story to the extent that the numbers are diminishing but it’s by no means over. They are still admitting patients, as they did today,” the chief US diplomat said during her 15-minute tour.

    “Thankfully we are better equipped to be able to save lives and limit the fatalities but we have a long way to go, just as we have a long way to go with our work in Haiti,” she said.

    Clinton entered a severe-cases ward where men, women and children lay on cots, intravenous drips attached to their arms. The ward, made of wood and tarpaulin, was quiet except for a child crying.

    Like others in her entourage, Clinton entered the clinic after standing momentarily with her shoes in a basin of shallow bleached water and then washing her hands under a spigot of chlorinated water.

    Steven Smith, a health official at the US embassy, told Clinton that “we’re seeing a decrease in the number of cholera cases. Even more important, we’re seeing a decrease in the number of fatalities.”

    But he said there were still hundreds of new cases a day countrywide.

    The number of new patients at the Cholera Treatment Center, managed by US government grantee Partners in Health, has been reduced by half to about 40 per day since the start of the epidemic, a State Department official said.

    Five patients have died at the clinic, the official said.

    The death toll from Haiti’s cholera epidemic is 4,030, the Haitian health ministry said Thursday, while the number of cholera cases totaled 209,034 as of January 24.

    The severity of the epidemic has diminished, but the ministry’s figures show that Haitians are still dying from the bacterial infection, which can strike swiftly with intense diarrhea and vomiting leading to dehydration.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gSG1JuUlX-n_edBmMEm1LAaF7oDA?docId=CNG.7bdc5ae33cb6afa079d4a84588e766f7.861

  305. #
    confloyd
    January 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Mrs. Smith,
    It is thundering and lightning here and the weatherman expects snow by Wednesday….you wouldn’t be pushing all that nasty weather down South would you….LOL???
    ___________________

    Afraid not, confloyd. Weather patterns usually run west to east, south to north. We will be getting your weather, as the crow flies, on Wednesday. Last week we got the Chicago and PA snows colliding into a massive Nor’easter that was undecided if it should come as rain or snow. At the end of it all, it dropped 18″ of fresh snow on top of 4’5″ snowbanks. Treacherous turning on to a main thoroughfare when you can’t see anything coming.

    This is becoming a weekly phenomenon on Wednesdays. 😆
    _________________________

    Just listened to LIVE feed from Aljazerra. The NY correspondent Mona ElTahiq(sp)from Cairo when asked about Mohammed Elbaradei. She gave a positive response about him. She said, he doesn’t represent all groups. He basically represents an organic grass roots group of the people. She did not mention the MB at all or associate him as their leader.

    You can listen to the live feed here and decide for yourself:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

  306. But if the Muslim Brotherhood is now backing him, What has Elbaradei promised them?

    That is something I really want to know. And his anti-Israeli stance isn’t a winner for me either.

  307. It appears that the police, having been off the streets for most of Sunday, have now returned. There had been reports earlier that they would resume patrols on Monday, but Egypt’s state news agency and Al Arabiya TV now say that deployment has already happened.
    ………….

    I imagine the welcome the cops are going to get will be not pleasant considering their activities when they “disappeared” or should i say went looting.

  308. Jan, from what I gather, Elbaradei has a mandate in hand for the meeting negotiating with Mubarek. He is not directly representing the MBs but they have made their terms known to him. The MBs sent several of their representatives to speak with him when it was announced there was a meeting forthcoming. So, saying the MB’s are supporting him is more of an exaggeration expressing him as their leader than depicting his actual relationship with them, in the interests of accuracy, as having a goal in common of removing Mubarek.

    His priority is and always has been the ordinary Egyptian people and the business class people. I wrote earlier in the day; the problem he has with Israel is where he was the director of the NPT (Non-proliferation Treaty) His quote:

    “What compounds the problem is that the nuclear non-proliferation regime has lost its legitimacy in the eyes of Arab public opinion because of the perceived double-standards concerning Israel, the only state in the region outside the NPT and known to possess nuclear weapons,” he wrote.”

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/02/16/idINIndia-38051120090216

    I could argue both sides of that issue easily as I’m sure you could as well. This is something that is still on the back burner and needs to be ironed out between Israel and Elbaradei even though he is no longer head of the NPT agency.

    As I ended the last post with this quote, I will say the same thing. We have to wait and see who eventually will be the head of government in Egypt. It’s way too soon to tell.

    I’m not lobbying for Elbaradei- all my intentions were is to give the guy a fair shake and have a clear vision of who he is and let him handle his own destiny in his own way before we totally 86 him.

  309. Hillbuzz is moving to a new website

    ———–
    I hope they change their website name to:

    AnyoneButObamaBuzz or PalinBuzz.

    They seem to have gone off the Hillary reservation long ago.

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