Hu’s On First, Americans On Second

Last night the Abbott and Costello of the Hyde Park set hosted a dinner for Chinese Prime Minister Hu Jintao. A good time was had by those, with closed eyes, and in attendance. For most Americans however, the night was more Halloween than stately dinner.



After a long day of tricks there were few treats for downtrodden Americans. Regular Americans cannot help but feel like they are second best to the interests of clowns and ghouls who now control our government.

To begin with, the lantern-jawed, muscular member of the Abbott and Costello Obama duo “stunned”, and not in a good way. She performed in a Cirque Du Soleil red dragon costume. For a second, diners might have thought they stumbled into auditions for Chicago’s Medusa. Either that or the fabric for the costume was a loaned backdrop from the intestines scene in the film Fantastic Voyage. The bony husband was the perfect complement to the eye-popping display of obliviousness. He appeared to be pulled from Lurch-like heights by gravity or some great force to bow. We hear he resisted the impulse. We could not watch. It was a night of visual horror.

It was a day of political horror as well. The Republican leadership of the House and Senate decided early not to attend the taxpayer paid for frivolity. They probably made the right decision. Leslie Gelb explains:

“The Chinese side won this test of wills and power for two reasons. First, they had the easier bargaining position: All they had to do was hold the line, while Washington had to gain concessions. Second, Hu was in a far stronger position overall because China’s economy continues to grow in double digits, while the American economy remains troubled. [snip]

Last weekend, some members of the Obama team even considered taking desperate measures. Specifically, they were contemplating either simply dropping the joint communiqué at the end of the summit or canceling the state dinner, according to administration officials. Their thinking was that Hu couldn’t possibly afford to let the whole summit fail, while Obama’s toughness would look good politically. Fortunately, they dropped both ideas.

For Obama, it was precisely the right time to start undoing Beijing’s grossly unfair economic practices. But all the Obama team managed to extract from the visitors was about $45 billion in new contracts to buy American goods and services, particularly civilian airliners from Boeing. Most of these deals had been in the pipeline well before the summit. On the really key economic issues, Hu essentially avoided showdowns and compromises and sounded reassuring. These make-or-break items included China’s unfair currency manipulation to gain price advantages on exports, its stealing U.S. intellectual property to make U.S. goods without paying for them, and its placing high and illegal hurdles in the path of American companies trying to do business in the Middle Kingdom.”

At least our military is stronger than China’s, for now – and we get to keep the pandas for a few more years. Hooray!

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Americans listened to celestial choirs of civility. We kid.

At the capitol the level of civility, was not as bad as accusing a cancer survivor of running a panty business from her basement and providing fellatio to get elected. It was not as bad as the attacks on the parents of a neurosurgeon treating Congresswoman Giffords because they donated money to Tea Party candidate Christine O’Donnell. No it was not that bad.

But it was bad. At the Capitol the civility was to call the other side “Nazis”. Anderson Cooper, no “teabagger” he in the political sense, tried “Keeping Them Honest” and asked for a retraction of the “Nazi” charge. However he failed.

The screams of “Nazi”, like the screams of “racist” came in defense of the Obama health scam flim-flam. Last year and the year before last the fight was all about Obama’s big gift to Big PhaRma and Big Insurance. This year… well not much has changed. What has changed once again is what Evan Thomas chooses to tell us. Last year Evan Thomas loved Obama’s scam. This year, when it is too late, not so much:

“Sometimes criticism comes in the unlikeliest of places.

On Friday’s “Inside Washington,” Newsweek columnist Evan Thomas, once an editor at the magazine with a long track record of having liberal positions (even once having likened President Barack Obama to a deity), noted the modest improvement in the unemployment number reported on Friday. However, nearly a year after Obamacare was passed and signed into law, he admitted Republicans were right for voicing their opposition of it.

“It ain’t because of Congress,” Thomas said. “The unemployment will go down a little bit but the game in Washington will still be this unreal game. Health care though – I got to say, is one place where I think where Republicans are right.

Back in November 2009, Thomas admitted the health care reform bill had flaws, but still voiced his support for it. Now he has proclaimed it a failure.

The health care bill is a disaster,” Thomas continued. “We’re sort of slowly learning – it’s not working. It’s interesting – they’re implementing it and it’s not working out at all as people anticipated. There’s all sorts of wildly wrong projections. As it’s being practiced – it’s failed.”

Some of our readers might recall our article “After The Lovin'” in which we documented how Evan Thomas thought Obama was a Messiah only to tell us what he really thought when it was too late – after the election. Obama is “creepy” Thomas told us – after the election. Tom Brokaw didn’t know anything about Obama either:



Lovely. And don’t miss the tidbits about how none of them know anything about Obama’s attitude or policy towards China. That video is as fresh today as it was in 2008.

With all that history in mind, the House yesterday finally passed a bipartisan health care bill – for repeal of the Obama scam. Obama thugs called the repeal “racist” for no better reason than the word falls trippingly from their tongues. It was a publicity stunt. But perhaps it is a publicity stunt with a purpose.

It is likely the Republicans will be able to rid us of this scam, not now but bit by bit and completely after 2012. But if not, they have set up some great publicity stunts for the rest of the year and into 2012. And there are the courts where now 26 states want the scam repealed.

As publicity stunts go we prefer repeal to an invitation for dinner with Abbot and Costello Obama. Who needs dinner with those two?

The big winner of yesterday possibly agrees with us. Who is yesterday’s big winner? Hu. Madame Hu that is. She stayed home in China.

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541 thoughts on “Hu’s On First, Americans On Second

  1. Gelb ignores the obvious. Reason 3 which is actually Reason 1 why the Chinese won the first round as he calls it is because the United States has a president who is and has always been for sale to the highest bidder. And Hu has got the cash. I am quite sure that Obama is the brunt of the jokes which the Chinese leadership and Peoples Liberation Army tell each other as they formulate their 10 year plan and stick voodoo dolls into Harry Reid. We can hardly blame them for that. But the Chinese leadership are conosseurs of power, and where Barack is concern, let us say they know a Paper Tiger when they see one. And they try to maintain a straight face when he stands in front of a teleprompter and thunders meeeeowww. Tapper and other members of the much esteemed Washington Press Corps respond on que. The quickly proclaim this entire speech consisting of a single word–meeeoowww to be the greatest speech since the Funeral Oration of Pericles. They explain to the great unwashed that it embodies wit, hope for the future, deep insight, concern for the planet, an outstretched hand of peace but its greatest strength lies in its brevity. Soon everyone on the planet will be uttering that all encompassing word meeeeeeowww, when they are not repeating the other idiom de jour–unity. The toughest problem the worlds dictators must contend with is to maintain a straight face when they listen to The Joker. What a pussy cat he is.

  2. Admin says:

    To begin with, the lantern-jawed, muscular member of the Abbott and Costello Obama duo “stunned”, and not in a good way. She performed in a Cirque Du Soleil red dragon costume. For a second, diners might have thought they stumbled into auditions for Chicago’s Medusa. Either that or the fabric for the costume was a loaned backdrop from the intestines scene in the film Fantastic Voyage. The bony husband was the perfect complement to the eye-popping display of obliviousness. He appeared to be pulled from Lurch-like heights by gravity or some great force to bow. We hear he resisted the impulse. We could not watch. It was a night of visual horror.

    snip

    The big winner of yesterday possibly agrees with us. Who is yesterday’s big winner? Hu. Madame Hu that is. She stayed home in China

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    and we wonder why…she has probably seen pictures of MO’s taste and of how MO entertains…

  3. re: the two stories Admin refers to above and the awful, inexcusable behavior on the part of the left media…

    these repubs still do not get it…someone needs to clue Malkin and the rest of them in…shake them into reality…their lists of these sick so call ‘liberals’ misogynists show how disgusting these people are but the expose of the right would pack a much bigger punch if they started with how disgusting these same people were to Hillary, the former first lady of the USA, a two term senator from NY…and how these same creeps went after her…that shows how really depraved these people are…it is beyond politics…they are mean spirited sickos…with political agendas…

    …once these repubs…Malkin, Hannity and the rest of them…can show that these creeps are so despicable and low life that they even took on the most prominent woman in their own party…then their stories and tales of these horrible people will really be put in perspective…the more they keep their story to only the treatment of repub women, the more they lose the complete impact and truth of how low these low lifes are…and how low they will go and have gone…

    clue to the right…start your analysis with Hillary, then list SP and all the rest of the women the PINOS are trying to destroy…that is the crux of this story…

  4. Jeff Zeleny / New York Times:
    Obama to Close Political Office and Start 2012 Campaign — WASHINGTON — President Obama will close the office of political affairs at the White House, aides said, restructuring his organization to prepare for his re-election campaign, which is to start building a fund-raising and grassroots operation based in Chicago by late March.

    gulp…

  5. S, we have been recommending what you wrote for years now. The smarter Republicans/conservatives get it but even they regularly react like Pavlovian dogs instead of wising up. Sometimes they hear “Hillary” and they go to their hate stations automatically. In fairness most of us do the same thing in reverse. For instance we were loathe to include the Rush Limbaugh youtube even though everything in the clip that Limbaugh said was deadly accurate.

    There is also the hate Hillary contingent among Republicans who simply will never resist their hate even when it would be smarter to use Hillary as an example of how Obama cannot be trusted and is treacherous. This contingent is unrepentant and can never be talked into common sense.

    The crew that has most to lose are the Sarah Palin supporters. Their fate is tied to a fight against sexism and misogyny with Hillary as a prime example – whether they like it or not. When we Hillary supporters defend Sarah Palin it is not entirely altruistic. It is to our benefit as well as Palin’s. The reverse is true of Palin supporters vis-a-vis Hillary. Both sides need to understand we either hang together or hang separately.

    As you wrote: “clue to the right…start your analysis with Hillary, then list SP and all the rest of the women the PINOS are trying to destroy…that is the crux of this story…”

  6. Dylan Ratigan cutting eric alterman apart as an O apologist…eric another big protectionist coming up with any excuse for O – pushing his book…the system vs barack obama…

    what a joke..

  7. I know Admin…I have often heard you give this advice…I know we are speaking to the choir…but when I took a look at the current article you linked to by Malkin I was just moved to repeat it…

    …maybe one of the writers/bloggers on the right will read your blog and “get it”

    i think we would all be strengthened by the truth…the honesty of how women are treated by PINOS…these are not the evolved thinkers we once, long, long ago, thought they were…

  8. online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704590704576091962633206964.html

    Palinoia, the Destroyer What’s behind the left’s deranged hatred.
    By JAMES TARANTO
    Why does their hatred of her burn so hot?

    Ask them, and they’ll most likely tell you: Because she’s a moron. But that is obviously false. To be sure, her skills at extemporaneous speaking leave much to be desired. But that can be said of a good many politicians on both sides of the aisle, including George W. Bush, John Kerry and, yes, Barack Obama. And don’t get us started on the man who defeated her for the vice presidency.

    She drives them crazy.
    Whether or not she is presidential timber–and we are inclined to think that she is not–there is no denying that she is a highly accomplished person. She is also a highly accomplished woman, what in an earlier age would have been called a feminist pioneer: the first female governor of the malest state in the country, the first woman on the presidential ticket of the party on the male side of the “gender gap.” Having left politics, whether temporarily or permanently, she has established herself as one of the most consequential voices in the political media.

    They say she is uneducated. What they mean is that her education is not elite–not Harvard or Yale, or even Michigan or UCLA. They resent her because, in their view, she has risen above her station.

    snip

    Therefore, we are going to hide behind the skirts of our friend Jessica Faller, a New Yorker in her 30s of generally liberal politics. Over the weekend, she wrote us this analysis of Palin-hatred, which she has generously given us permission to quote:

    I am starting out with a guess that this stems from her abrupt appearance on the national scene during the McCain-Obama race. She appeared out of nowhere and landed squarely in a position of extreme attention and media power. Her sex appeal might not have been as much of an issue had she been a known entity with a tremendous, watertight political résumé.

    Even lacking that, her sex appeal might not have been such an issue if her demeanor on the campaign trail had been more, well, conservative. But here is this comely woman, in a curvy red suit, giving “shout-outs” during the debate with Joe Biden, giving controversial interviews without apology, basically driving in there, parking the car, and walking in like she owned the place.

    I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. But she couldn’t have pulled it off if she were a gray mouse in a pantsuit, and because the devil in the red dress wasn’t orating like a professor, it roused an unquenchable forest fire of rage and loathing in the breasts of many women, perhaps of the toiling gray mouse variety, who projected onto her their own career resentments and personal frustrations.

    I am amazed at how people still abhor her. I personally do not. I don’t feel she would be a good choice to run this country, but she does not deserve the horrific treatment she gets. I can tell you, being privy to the endless, incendiary rants this past week about her, coming from hordes of liberal women–age demo 25 to 45–they rip her to pieces, they blame her for everything, and the jealousy/resentment factor is so clear and primal. I’ve never seen anything like it.

    We’d say this goes beyond mere jealousy. For many liberal women, Palin threatens their sexual identity, which is bound up with their politics in a way that it is not for any other group (possibly excepting gays, though that is unrelated to today’s topic).

    An important strand of contemporary liberalism is feminism. As a label, “feminist” is passé; outside the academic fever swamps, you will find few women below Social Security age who embrace it.

    snip

    ************************************************************

    the author makes the mistake of including Hillary in this article as the favorite of the left…where was he during the primaries???

    …however, here is a perfect example of how the PINOS…and the PINO women…are as bad as the men and often worse when it comes to taking down other strong, smart, independent women…(feminists, my a–!)

    the author does not realize (how he misses it is beyond me) that regarding the hate factor, he could have interchanged Palin and Hillary…with the exception of Hillary going to Ivy League schools…like Admin has been saying and most of us agree, Hillary has been on the receiving end of the irrational hate from the left and right…if anyone is the pioneer figure for fighting back, it is Hillary…

    so much of the hate resonates from jealousy from women and the need to overpower from men…hillary and palin seemingly manage to have it all…and as hard as you hit them, they bounce back…they are strong outside of their critics…they are centered women, who know who they are and that is good enough for them…and for all the attacks…think Hillary even being dragged in front of a grand jury, etc…for all the attacks, Hillary…and Palin will not be silenced…they will not be told to sit down and shut up…and it drives their critics crazy…

  9. S, here is an example of what we have been discussing. The good professor is a smart man. During the Jared LONER episode Professor Jacobson had a relapse and went nutso on Hillary for comments that are not as controversial as he made them out to be. But today Professor Jacobson has his “I” controlling his “E” (this refers to our formulation “I” over “E” – meaning “intelligence over emotion”).

    Professor Jacobson writes this:
    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/01/we-just-witnessed-medias-test-run-to-re.html

    Having created a false narrative of Palin’s responsibility for the shooting, the mainstream media tried to deprive Palin of the ability to defend herself against the charges. And unfortunately, some who supposedly are on our side have jumped on that bandwagon.

    And all the while, Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media rip Palin apart, much as he left it to his supporters to go after the Clintons during the primary, only then to proclaim that we don’t really know why Jared Loughner did what he did. And the media narrative was how wonderful Obama was, how he helped heal the nation.

    Smart man that professor, he gets “it”. That’s how you do it Republicans/conservatives. That’s how you do “it”.

  10. God help us…………

    Buzz that Ted Kennedy Jr. will run for CT-Sen, spotted having coffee with Dodd today..

  11. Smart man that professor, he gets “it”. That’s how you do it Republicans/conservatives. That’s how you do “it”.

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    Community Organizer stuff. Encourage the street people to break windows. Then come in as mediator to stop them.

  12. admin
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
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    so true!..those who will speak the truth are few and far between…on both sides…

    btw…the repubs should also be aware of the wolves in sheep’s clothing amongst themselves…tip: if they are agreeing with the MSM on CNN and or MSNBC…like…say a ‘Frum’ (and worse, the big whore Joe S)…then do the opposite of whatever they are preaching…

    obviously ‘we’ see what is going on with the right when they turn on SP…the establishment on the right want her out of the picture … they want to clear the decks for ‘their’ boys…

    …so now SP gets the Hillary treatment…the attacks from the left and those within her own party who are out to get her out of the way for ‘their’ guy…

  13. I am very disappointed at the state of political affairs in this country. Where I come from, illiterates, hooligans, corrupt people dominate politics and they do anything to stay in power. I thought it was different here but it is not. It has a polished veneer but underneath it is as rotten, relatively speaking for a country with all its wealth and comfort. I also thought people are more sophisticated politically but they are not. They are as dumb and get swayed as easily. This is the killer — opportunities for women are as limited if not more.

  14. 2012 has begun.. would you look at this video? Apparently she ambushed surprised WH visitors saying

    “I am Michelle Obama. You are in my home,” Mrs. Obama said. “Welcome to my house.”

    First Dog Bo Obama stayed at Mrs. Obama’s side while the line of people filtered though the Blue Room.

    “Hug me and pet Bo,” Mrs. Obama said, encouraging people to spend some time with her dog.

  15. I don’t know what to say about MO greeting WH visitors. My first impression is that she needs more to do but it is kind of nice especially for foreign visitors. But I guess it is actually a campaign tactic. I’d vote for BO in a nanosecond.

  16. Adding to my earlier comment:
    “The aristocrats on the left hate Hillary and the aristocrats on the right hate SP.”

    Since the aristocrats all intermingle & even intermarry, what they do is the aristocrats on the right urge their rank & file to hate Hillary while the aristocrats on the left urge their rank & file to hate SP. Win-win for aristocrats; keep the populists out of power.

  17. votermom
    Saw the drawing of the real designer dress that MO adapted to her taste that you linked to on the previous thread. The original was a truly beautiful dress.

  18. Clinton Opposes Palestinian UN Move on Settlements

    David Gollust | Washington 20 January 2011

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Thursday expressed opposition to a draft U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlement activity. The proposed resolution was introduced Wednesday and has broad support on the council.

    Clinton, for now, is stopping short of threatening a U.S. veto of the resolution if it comes to a vote in the Security Council. But she says the only viable way to get a two-state settlement of the Middle East conflict is through the face-to-face talks the United States has been trying to broker.

    The draft resolution, backed by the Arab league and the Palestinian Authority, declares that Israeli settlements in areas occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, are illegal and a major obstacle to achieving peace.

    The measure is co-sponsored by nearly 120 U.N. member countries and U.N. diplomats say it would probably be supported by 14 countries on the 15-member Security Council if it came to a vote.

    The United States has traditionally vetoed resolutions seen as one-sided against Israel and Clinton’s comments Thursday raised the prospect of another veto.

    At a press event with Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet, the Secretary said the United States continues to believe, strongly, that the only way to a two-state solution of the conflict is through negotiations by the parties themselves.

    “Therefore, we don’t see action in the United Nations or any other forum as being helpful in bringing about that desired outcome. Our position on settlements remains as it has been. I clearly spoke out about that on many occasions, and will continue to do so. But, ultimately, the Palestinian and Israeli people have to make a decision about whether they can engage in negotiations that will result in compromise on both sides to obtain what we believe will be not just two states living side by side in peace and security, but a much better future for the children of both Israelis and Palestinians,” she said.

    U.S. officials have argued that unilateral steps, those taken without Israel’s consent, complicate peace efforts, and the United States has also opposed the recent recognition of Palestinian statehood by several Latin American countries.

    In an open letter to President Barack Obama Thursday, a group of more than 50 former U.S. diplomats, cabinet officials and others urged the administration to support the draft resolution.

    The group, including former Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci, former Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Thomas Pickering and former chief U.S. Middle East diplomat Richard Murphy, said it is time for a “clear signal of U.S. objectivity” on the Middle East dispute.

    They said the proposed resolution is consistent with U.S. policy, and that a veto would undermine U.S. credibility and interests, and put the United States “firmly outside” the international consensus on the issue.

    U.S. policy once held that settlements were illegal but the wording has been softened in recent years.

    In his 2009 speech in Cairo, President Obama said the United States does not accept the legitimacy of settlement activity, which he said undermines peace efforts and should stop.

    The State Department said Thursday that Secretary of State Clinton will discuss peace efforts early next month in a meeting in Germany with fellow foreign ministers of the international Middle East Quartet.

    The informal grouping of the United States, Russia, the European Union, and the United Nations, was formed in 2002 and has focused lately on building the infrastructure for a Palestinian state.

    http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Clinton-Opposes-Palestinian-UN-Move-on-Settlements–114319174.html

  19. I know it’s lame of me, but I do love her hair style in this video…

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    Secretary Clinton Hosts Joint Press Availability With Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet

  20. Great post Admin! …as always, but never should your gift with words and accurate analysis be taken for granted.

    …The smarter Republicans/conservatives get it but even they regularly react like Pavlovian dogs instead of wising up. Sometimes they hear “Hillary” and they go to their hate stations automatically. In fairness most of us do the same thing in reverse.

    ———
    I had a really tough day at work, and I know, I should be happy I still have a job……..but a tough day and home in time to listen to Hannity and his pet Brit whine about how badly they have been treated, for the gazillionth time…………

    I want to throw every shoe in the house at my tv.

    I don’t know if I can stand to listen to the big baby Hannity much more. Same story, night after night, is there no news to report on?

    Shut up Hannity!!!

    —-> Sorry for the rant, had to get it out of my system.

  21. votermom
    January 20th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    The aristocrats on the left hate Hillary and the aristocrats on the right hate SP.
    ————-
    And I hate all of them, so there!

  22. I met a guy at work today that not only saw the Big Dawg up close like I did, but shook his hand. I saw Bill seated in a car, 4 feet away, so I asked if Bill was big. This guy was big and said Bill was huge!
    Said when he shook his hand, his fingers were about 2 or 3 inches beyond his wrist.

  23. Technically downstairs is not really her home. It is the govt offices, if you will. She must think it is her palace. Her home is where the residence quarters are. Incidentally, Carla who is independently wealthy and heir to the CEAT fortune, still lives in her own apartment with Sarkozy living with her. Carla ever so delicately said in an interview that she does not particularly like to live in the palace but go there when the occasion calls for it.

  24. Does anyone else find it unusual that President Hu visits Mayor Daley in Chicago??? So darn unusual and then add Bo’s brother living in China. Then you could add that we have never found out where BO got all his money to run against Hillary, have we? Hmm, hmmm!

    I wonder if this is what the insider is talking about…it starts in DC and goes to Chicago. We know Communist China is nothing but one big mafia…so where does he visit, the mafia city in the United States!

    This is all pretty amazing! The Chinese flag flies in the center where ours is suppose, and the Chinese flag flies last year at the WH and the empire state building is covered with the lights of China….pretty unusual I’d say! All these politico’s retiring…hmmmm!

  25. We also shouldn’t forget the lights of Zbig’s eyes light up when he speaks of China….or for that matter Kissinger’s too!

    What a coincidence!

  26. ….The smarter Republicans/conservatives get it but even they regularly react like Pavlovian dogs instead of wising up. Sometimes they hear “Hillary” and they go to their hate stations automatically. In fairness most of us do the same thing in reverse…
    _______________________

    Even worse when Repubs are forced to recognize Bill for an achievement. That goes for the women as well as men and I know plenty of them. Having lived among them for most of my life, I still can’t figure out how my inborn self isn’t cold, self-serving and hypocritical like they are… I must have been innoculated with anti-venom at birth. 😉

  27. President
    Idaho Set to Nullify Obama’s Health Care Law

    After leading the nation last year in passing a law to sue the federal government over the health care overhaul, Idaho’s Republican-dominated Legislature now plans to use an obscure 18th century doctrine to declare President Barack Obama’s signature bill null and void.

    Lawmakers in six other states — Maine, Montana, Oregon, Nebraska, Texas and Wyoming — are also mulling “nullification” bills, which contend states, not the U.S. Supreme Court, are the ultimate arbiter of when Congress and the president run amok.

    It’s a concept that’s won favor among many tea party adherents who believe Washington, D.C., is out of control.

    Though a 1958 U.S. Supreme Court decision reaffirmed that federal laws “shall be the supreme law of the land,” Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter is promoting the idea, too. In his January 10 State of the State speech, he told Idaho residents “we are actively exploring all our options — including nullification.”

    Sen. Monty Pearce, an Idaho GOP lawmaker who plans to introduce a nullification bill early next week, wanted to be the first one to give Otter a recently published book on the subject, “Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century.”

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    “I took that copy and tried to give it to the governor,” he said, pointing to a copy on his desk. “He already had a copy.”

    Sick of just passing largely symbolic resolutions decrying federal encroachment on states’ rights, proponents like Pearce say their bills will ratchet up the pressure on the feds: This isn’t just some piece of paper to wave about; if it passes — and there’s plenty in Idaho to suggest it will — this would become the law of the state, Pearce says.

    It’s been tried before, a long time ago.

    Back in 1799, Thomas Jefferson wrote in his “Kentucky Resolution,” a response to federal laws passed amid an undeclared naval war against France, that “nullification, by those sovereignties, of all unauthorized acts… is the rightful remedy.”

    Three decades later, South Carolina Sen. John Calhoun pushed nullification of federal tariffs that many in the South deemed discriminatory toward agricultural slave states. President Andrew Jackson readied the military, before a compromise defused the situation.

    In 1854, Wisconsin also sought to nullify the federal Fugitive Slave Act that forced non-slave states to return escapees.

    And more recently, Arkansas defied the federal government’s order to desegregate public schools after the landmark 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision.

    In a unanimous 1958 ruling rejecting Arkansas’ position, the High Court wrote that states were bound by the Constitution’s Article VI mandating U.S. laws, when vetted by justices, “shall be the supreme law of the land.”

    After passing its “Health Care Freedom Act” last year, Idaho is already among 27 states now suing the federal government over the constitutionality of what health-care overhaul foes deride as “Obamacare.”

    Supreme Court justices haven’t yet weighed in on questions like whether residents can be compelled to buy health insurance.

    But Thomas E. Woods, Jr., author of the 2010 book “Nullification” that Otter and Pearce have in their Idaho Capitol offices, argues states have the final say on the gravest issues, like when the government forces citizens to spend their hard-earned money.

    If the U.S. president, Congress, and the Supreme Court get it wrong, Woods said, then Jefferson had it right back in 1799 when he wrote that states, as creators of the federal government, “being sovereign and independent, have the unquestionable right to judge of its infraction.”

    “What do we do when we don’t get proper relief in the court?” Woods told The Associated Press from his home in Auburn, Ala. “We can’t just throw up our hands and say, ‘We tried.’ The creators had to have some way of not having that system destroyed.”

    For Idaho’s Pearce, Obama and the Democratic-led Congress are destroying the American system.

    “There are now 27 states that are in on the lawsuit against Obamacare,” Pearce said. “What if those 27 states do the same thing we do with nullification? It’s a killer.”

  28. This article entitled The New Global Elites in Atlantic Magazine is important. It is about the people who hover over the political process like vultures and use their money to push policies and public figures who will protect their interests. They flexed their muscle and installed Obama, knowing that he was the kind of politician who would advance their interests over those of his constituents. The last paragraph caught my eye, because it projects a binary outcome to this phenomenon. Either the global elites will suppress public opinion or share their wealth. This is why Obama’s use of the word unity is so telling. He does not mean give and take between politicians and the people. In health care, cap and trade and other areas we saw clearly what he means–the suppression of dissent. Just like we saw in the Democratic Party. By the way, I am very proud of the junior senator from my state Maria Cantwell. I got upset with her when she seemed to waffle on her support for Hillary, after Hillary helped her out financially. However, she showd great courage in supporting Glass Steegel and now again in supporting the repeal of Obamacare.
    ——————————————————————————————–

    The Rise of the New Global Elite: The Rise of the New Global Elite
    By CHRYSTIA FREELAND

    F. Scott Fitzgerald was right when he declared the rich different from you and me. But today’s super-rich are also different from yesterday’s: more hardworking and meritocratic, but less connected to the nations that granted them opportunity—and the countrymen they are leaving ever further behind.

    IF YOU HAPPENED to be watching NBC on the first Sunday morning in August last summer, you would have seen something curious. There, on the set of Meet the Press, the host, David Gregory, was interviewing a guest who made a forceful case that the U.S. economy had become “very distorted.” In the wake of the recession, this guest explained, high-income individuals, large banks, and major corporations had experienced a “significant recovery”; the rest of the economy, by contrast—including small businesses and “a very significant amount of the labor force”—was stuck and still struggling. What we were seeing, he argued, was not a single economy at all, but rather “fundamentally two separate types of economy,” increasingly distinct and divergent.

    At Google’s May Zeitgeist gathering, Desmond Tutu, the opening speaker, took direct aim at executive compensation. “I do have a very real concern about capitalism,” he lectured the gathered executives. “The Goldman Sachs thing. I read that one of the directors general—whatever they are called, CEO—took away one year as his salary $64 million. Sixty-four million dollars.” He sputtered to a stop, momentarily stunned by this sum (though, by the standards of Wall Street and Silicon Valley compensation, it’s not actually that much money). In an op-ed in TheWall Street Journal last year, even the economist Klaus Schwab—founder of the World Economic Forum and its iconic Davos meeting—warned that “the entrepreneurial system is being perverted,” and businesses that “fall back into old habits and excesses” could “undermin[e] social peace.” (snip)

    (Dicussion mentions Soros)

    Not all plutocrats, of course, are created equal. Apple’s visionary Steve Jobs is neither the moral nor the economic equivalent of the Russian oligarchs who made their fortunes by brazenly seizing their country’s natural resources. And while the benefits of the past decade’s financial “innovations” are, as Volcker noted, very much in question, many plutocratic fortunes—especially in the technology sector—have been built on advances that have broadly benefited the nation and the world. That is why, even as the TARP-recipient bankers have become objects of widespread anger, figures such as Jobs, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett remain heroes.

    And, ultimately, that is the dilemma: America really does need many of its plutocrats. We benefit from the goods they produce and the jobs they create. And even if a growing portion of those jobs are overseas, it is better to be the home of these innovators—native and immigrant alike—than not. In today’s hypercompetitive global environment, we need a creative, dynamic super-elite more than ever.

    There is also the simple fact that someone will have to pay for the improved public education and social safety net the American middle class will need in order to navigate the wrenching transformations of the global economy. (That’s not to mention the small matter of the budget deficit.) Inevitably, a lot of that money will have to come from the wealthy—after all, as the bank robbers say, that’s where the money is.

    It is not much of a surprise that the plutocrats themselves oppose such analysis and consider themselves singled out, unfairly maligned, or even punished for their success. Self-interest, after all, is the mother of rationalization, and—as we have seen—many of the plutocracy’s rationalizations have more than a bit of truth to them: as a class, they are generally more hardworking and meritocratic than their forebears; their philanthropic efforts are innovative and important; and the recent losses of the American middle class have in many cases entailed gains for the rest of the world.

    But if the plutocrats’ opposition to increases in their taxes and tighter regulation of their economic activities is understandable, it is also a mistake. The real threat facing the super-elite, at home and abroad, isn’t modestly higher taxes, but rather the possibility that inchoate public rage could cohere into a more concrete populist agenda—that, for instance, middle-class Americans could conclude that the world economy isn’t working for them and decide that protectionism or truly punitive taxation is preferable to incremental measures such as the eventual repeal of the upper-bracket Bush tax cuts.

    Mohamed El-Erian, the Pimco CEO, is a model member of the super-elite. But he is also a man whose father grew up in rural Egypt, and he has studied nations where the gaps between the rich and the poor have had violent resolutions. “For successful people to say the challenges faced by the lower end of the income distribution aren’t relevant to them is shortsighted,” he told me. Noting that “global labor and capital are doing better than their strictly national counterparts” in most Western industrialized nations, ElErian added, “I think this will lead to increasingly inward-looking social and political conditions. I worry that we risk ending up with very insular policies that will not do well in a global world. One of the big surprises of 2010 is that the protectionist dog didn’t bark. But that will come under pressure.”

    The lesson of history is that, in the long run, super-elites have two ways to survive: by suppressing dissent or by sharing their wealth. It is obvious which of these would be the better outcome for America, and the world. Let us hope the plutocrats aren’t already too isolated to recognize this. Because, in the end, there can never be a place like Galt’s Gulch.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/01/the-rise-of-the-new-global-elite/8343/1/

  29. wbboei,
    thanks for the really interesting article about the nullification of obamacare. My state is one of the six mentioned and I’ll be poring over the local news to see what our legislature does.

  30. Did I miss this.

    Hawaii governor can’t find Obama birth certificate
    Suggests controversy could hurt president’s re-election chances

    Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

    Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president’s chances of re-election in 2012.

    Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie’s spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

    Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: “You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?”

    In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.”

    Read more: Hawaii governor can’t find Obama birth certificate http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833#ixzz1BfZvjPDB

  31. House GOP begins long drive to dismantle Obamacare
    Everyone knows House Republicans (along with three Democrats) voted Wednesday to repeal Obamacare. But fewer people know what those same House Republicans — this time, with 14 Democrats — did Thursday. By a vote of 253 to 175, the GOP directed key House committees to report on ways to lower health care premiums, allow patients to keep their current health plans, increase access to coverage for those with pre-existing conditions, and decrease the price of medical liability lawsuits. In other words, the committees are beginning work on replacing the House-repealed Obamacare with Republican health policies.

    Repeal got a lot of press coverage. Replacement got far less. If they needed any reminding, GOP lawmakers are learning that controlling the levers of power in the House doesn’t mean controlling the media narrative on health care. “Democrats wanted to characterize repeal as draconian, ignoring the fact that we do have very, very positive alternatives,” says Rep. David Dreier, chairman of the House Rules Committee. “It’s been difficult for us to get that [message] out there. We said repeal and replace, and we’re in the process of replacing.”

    House Republicans are pursuing a three-part strategy. Part One was repeal; they promised to do it, and they did it. Part Two is replace, which in coming months will involve House votes on a series of GOP health care measures. And Part Three — since full repeal can’t win in the Senate — is another series of votes on measures to repeal individual parts of Obamacare. The net result will be that Republicans gradually push more and more House Democrats — and perhaps some in the Senate — away from an all-or-nothing defense of Obamacare….
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/01/house-gop-begins-long-slog-dismantle-obamacare

  32. State workers living on cushioned pensioned plans and their Social Security will be the next layer of the middle class to suffer financial devastation. Watch for the next wave of foreclosures throwing municipal and state pensioners out on the street.
    _______________

    Plans being drawn up to let states go bankrupt

    Policy makers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers.

    Unlike cities, the states are barred from seeking protection in federal bankruptcy court. Any effort to change that status would have to clear high constitutional hurdles because the states are considered sovereign.

    But proponents say some states are so burdened that the only feasible way out may be bankruptcy, giving Illinois, for example, the opportunity to do what General Motors did with the federal government’s aid.

    Beyond their short-term budget gaps, some states have deep structural problems, like insolvent pension funds, that are diverting money from essential public services like education and health care.

    Some members of Congress fear that it is just a matter of time before a state seeks a bailout, say bankruptcy lawyers who have been consulted by Congressional aides.

    Rest at link:

    article gleaned from the NYT:

    h.. w.. msnbc.msn.com/id/41188877/ns/business-the_new_york_times/

  33. some states have deep structural problems, like insolvent pension funds, that are diverting money from essential public services like education and health care.

    ======================

    Hm? Paying pensions is less essential than education? It’s not like the schools taught very much anyway, they are mostly babysitting.

  34. lol……One third of registered voters in Zimbabwe are dead, according to new report.

    ……………………………..

    Still got nothing on Illinois voters and Obama voters.

  35. PAUL RYAN will deliver GOP State of Union response

    ……………………………………………….

    They are gearing up this guy for a very prominent role. I would not be surprised to see him as the VP or Potus nomination slot in 2012.

  36. wbboei
    January 21st, 2011 at 3:06 am

    RE: Last paragraph of article: “…super-elites have two ways to survive: by suppressing dissent or by sharing their wealth.”
    —————

    Yes, BUT.

    Obviously, suppression of dissent is high on the elite’s priority list; as for the other half of the statement, the word “wealth” jumps out. Wealth is not—as we have been conditioned to conceive—money. Sharing the chips of the bankrupt casino would not bring relief to the people of the USA or the world.

    And it’s not so much ” dissent ” that is being increasingly suppressed as the development of right understanding, and actions which expose their wrongdoing or legislate against their wrongdoing.

    We don’t want to share in the “wealth” of the elite. We simply refuse to further tolerate their usurious system, either the dead one on life support or the one they are trying to cook-up to replace it.

    The great and good things we strive maintain and to pass to our children were not taken from the elite. They were created by the minds and hands of sovereign human beings.

    You can splatter paint or bang on drums or play with a rhythm machine or your latest tech gadget; you can express dissent in the form of “opinions,” but true creativity, the discovery of efficient principles and their promulgation, is suppressed.

  37. I heard BO is appointing the GE CEO Jeff Immelt to head the WH jobs panel. This to me just seems so obviously corruption and cronyism. Immelt hasn’t created American jobs in GE, he hasn’t done particularly well as CEO (just look at their stock prices), GE workers pretty much hate him.
    But GE owns NBC which is the number 1 shill for BO, and GE relies heavily on government contracts, and BO needs a billion dollar for his 2012 campaign.
    It’s pure banana republic public policy at this point.

  38. In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.”
    *********************************
    This Hawaii governor is driving me nuts with these unintelligible/enigmatic statements. Does he mean it is so politically or constitutionally unthinkable that he and others will do anything to cover up this story or is he saying that someone has to solve this problem?
    If he is going to pursue this, that’s good but why doesn’t he just say that?

  39. Fox is repoting that Michelle Bachmann has been making trips to Iowa and is she gearing up for a race for the presidency and that she and Palin embraced somewhere. Hmmm. A Palin/Bachman ticket in 2012? That would make the obots bonkers!

  40. Another white out day in the NE dropping 18″ of new snow on top of huge piles of snow blocking your view driving around corners. Plow trucks breaking down from the overbearing strain of clearing the roads and driveways where we live on this mountain. The worst is yet to come. Weather predictions of below zero numbers -5 over the weekend. I feel like we’re living in Alaska or the Tundra without the advantage of seeing beautiful landscapes or breathing pristine pine scented air. heh-

    How long until spring?

    Almost forgot- What is the translation for PINO?

  41. turndown @ 10:24, there was a day (1970’s or before) when govt employees made considerably less than their comparable private sector worker. The trade-off was that they got better benefits, so the public didn’t grumble over it, because it was a fair trade.

    Those days are gone. Thanks to public-sector unions and their political clout, both the salaries and benefits of public-sector employees have been steadily rising, while everyone else is told to tighten their belts. The average public worker now makes up to 40% more than his/her private counterpart in salary alone, much less benefits.

    During the recent economic recession, when the private sector was laying off and cutting pay like crazy, the public sector kept expanding and hiring and being paid even more. There is something fundamentally WRONG with the idea that public employees are some sort of “protected class”, and that their salaries and benefits are sacred cows, while the people who PAY THEIR SALARIES are told to make do with less.

    Don’t underestimate the deep anger of the public over this. Public employees need to show a little humility and willingness to make the same sacrifices the rest of us are making. If they don’t, I predict the public will lose patience with them altogether, and the cuts will be even more draconian than they would have been had the public unions not taken an arrogant “you can’t touch us, so eff off” attitude.

  42. Public employees are the latest knee jerk target of the right. Their salaries are not more than the private sector, that is bullshit propaganda. Keep the little folks fighting against each other is the strategy and it works great.

    Mrs. Smith
    If you are asking what the acronym PINO is, it is Progressive in name only. Sorry is that is not what you are asking.

  43. My sister is currently a state employee and she has been taking forced non voluntary days off without pay for 2 years now to help the state budget. Every state worker knows that they will be first to have to sacrifice whenever a state budget is in trouble. Stop the propaganda.

  44. BigCat, they do indeed make more. Sorry, but the data is the data, and the one having the “knee-jerk” reaction is you, not me. This is a comparison from the Bureau of Labor Statistics of a few occupations. Hardly a “RW propaganda” source:

    Job Federal Private Difference
    Airline pilot, copilot, flight engineer $93,690 $120,012 -$26,322

    Broadcast technician $90,310 $49,265 $41,045

    Budget analyst $73,140 $65,532 $7,608

    Chemist $98,060 $72,120 $25,940

    Civil engineer $85,970 $76,184 $9,786

    Clergy $70,460 $39,247 $31,213

    Computer, information systems manager $122,020 $115,705 $6,315

    Computer support specialist $45,830 $54,875 -$9,045

    Cook $38,400 $23,279 $15,121

    Crane, tower operator $54,900 $44,044 $10,856

    Dental assistant $36,170 $32,069 $4,101

    Economist $101,020 $91,065 $9,955

    Editors $42,210 $54,803 -$12,593

    Electrical engineer $86,400 $84,653 $1,747

    Financial analysts $87,400 $81,232 $6,168

    Graphic designer $70,820 $46,565 $24,255

    Highway maintenance worker $42,720 $31,376 $11,344

    Janitor $30,110 $24,188 $5,922

    Landscape architects $80,830 $58,380 $22,450

    Laundry, dry-cleaning worker $33,100 $19,945 $13,155

    Lawyer $123,660 $126,763 -$3,103

    Librarian $76,110 $63,284 $12,826

    Locomotive engineer $48,440 $63,125 -$14,685

    Machinist $51,530 $44,315 $7,215

    Mechanical engineer $88,690 $77,554 $11,136

    Office clerk $34,260 $29,863 $4,397

    Optometrist $61,530 $106,665 -$45,135

    Paralegals $60,340 $48,890 $11,450

    Pest control worker $48,670 $33,675 $14,995

    Physicians, surgeons $176,050 $177,102 -$1,052

    Physician assistant $77,770 $87,783 -$10,013

    Procurement clerk $40,640 $34,082 $6,558

    Public relations manager $132,410 $88,241 $44,169

    Recreation worker $43,630 $21,671 $21,959

    Registered nurse $74,460 $63,780 $10,680

    Respiratory therapist $46,740 $50,443 -$3,703

    Secretary $44,500 $33,829 $10,671

    Sheet metal worker $49,700 $43,725 $5,975

    Statistician $88,520 $78,065 $10,455

    Surveyor $78,710 $67,336 $11,374

  45. The Polls are being fiddled like we said.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/21/obama-at-49-in-cbs-poll/

    More media-poll sampling follies in CBS poll showing Obama at 49%

    The sampling is an issue in this poll as it was in the other two media polls this week. The actual unweighted sample here was skewed slightly to Democrats, with a D/R/I of 33/29/38 for a D+4 sample. After CBS weighted the poll to match its survey profile, the split became 34/27/38 for a D+7 sample — the same gap that voted for Obama in 2008. In a sample that actually reflected the electorate, Obama wouldn’t make it to 49%, and he would perform even worse on the issues than he does in this poll. This also explains why the same survey has found support for continuing ObamaCare.

    Meanwhile, Gallup has spent this week calculating Obama’s 2010 polling results, and they’re not pretty:

    read it all. The pollsters are bumping him up for some reason………..

  46. BigCatLover, the one having a “knee jerk” reaction is you, not me. Sorry, but the data is the data, and according to the RW propaganda source known as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the difference well-documented.

    Scroll down to the bottom for a chart of various jobs and the pay difference. For instance, a PR manager in the private sector makes $88,241, and his public counterpart makes $132, 410. The differences are very real.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

  47. PINO was a take-off on RINO (Republican in name only), that conservative Republicans would use as a slur when describing the moderates in their party (like Christine Whitman or Tom Keane), if for instance they were not anti-abortion. Also known as a “fiscal conservative”.

    I think DINO has been bandied about as well, and that maybe that is how Markos Moulitsas would label us here at Big Pink.

  48. http://twitpic.com/3s1vet

    Inside GE’s steam turbine & generator plant where Pres Obama will deliver his bullshit…sorry jobs and economy speech at 105pm.

    Somehow Bullshit seems more correct than speech that my fingers just automatically wrote it that way.

  49. Oh, and regarding those higher salaries:

    These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

    And no, it’s not just federal employees. State/local employees are the same.

    According to the most recent Employer Costs for Employee Compensation survey from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, as of December 2009, state and local government employees earned total compensation of $39.60 an hour, compared to $27.42 an hour for private industry workers-a difference of over 44 percent. This includes 35 percent higher wages and nearly 69 percent greater benefits.

    Again, there was a time in this country when this was not true, and whining about public sector salaries would have indeed been propaganda. That is no longer true. They are demonstrably higher. Facts are facts.

  50. The very fact that Cong. Paul Ryan was chosen by both Boehner and Mitchell to deliver SOTU response is significant in a time when Pres Campaigns will soon be lifting off.

  51. I worked in the public sector for 23 years and every other year we did salary comparisons with the private sector and every year, we came out below, so our salaries would be raised very modestly. Managers in both sectors always make more, but the average worker does not. These published salaries are mere snapshots in time that mean little over the broad section of salaries. Yes, while I was working we did hire managers from the private sector that negotiated over the top contracts based on what they made in the private sector, but they were isolated instances. The corporate structure has pervaded all business areas of the country with all of it’s abuses.

  52. Also as to pension benefits, I worked for 22 years under social security but because I retired under a state pension (my highest earning years), I receive NO social security benefits. NONE. Tell me how that is fair or taking advantage of the system. That is a fact.

  53. BigCat, your experience in your locale may indeed have been an exception. But the data is that OVERALL the salaries are higher, and the benefits are MUCH higher.

    All statistics are a “snapshot”. All of them. That doesn’t mean they are not useful for seeing the big picture, whether or not that big picture was accurate in YOUR particular “snapshot” of experience. As a matter of fact, your particular experience is much more of a “limited snapshot” then the data from the Bureau is. I find it puzzling that you would give more weight to the limited sample of “yourself”, while poo-pooing the data from the BLS as being a small and inadequate sample. Sounds contradictory to me.

  54. Ryan is the new BO. Shiny, young, exciting,with no executive experience but does have a plan to get rid of SS.
    I predict he’ll be on the VP shortlist.

  55. Look, I am saying as workers came over from the private sector with higher salaries, salaries in the public sector have gone up, but for the average worker, the better benefits (which are also going by the wayside very quickly) are what the workers were promised. Your figures are a snapshot in time and not reflective of the history of a public sector worker. The better benefits were promised to them. It only makes sense to cut benefits for newer workers but not to withdraw them from longtime workers. That’s my point.

  56. votermom
    January 21st, 2011 at 11:44 am
    Ryan is the new BO. Shiny, young, exciting,with no executive experience but does have a plan to get rid of SS.
    I predict he’ll be on the VP shortlist.
    *********************
    This tendency to gravitate to the young ‘charismatic’ personality to lead the country is really starting to worry me. Whether it be Barack Obama or Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan or whoever, the country needs EXPERIENCE, INTELLIGENCE, and COMTETENCE in our leaders, not personality or even inspiration now, IMO.

  57. Mrs.Smith
    I feel sorry for you in all that snow…its time to come to Texas…it only cold and rainy here. It’s dismal everywhere! There’s nothing to be excited about with Odumbo in office giving away everything to HU.

  58. I’d rather have experience this time…but that is just me…they can stuff those young chrismatic leaders…they aren’t worth a damn!

  59. I’m aware, wbb likes him, but Rep Paul Ryan is the GOP ‘feel good’ representative.

    Folding into advocating abolishing Medicare and privatizing a portion of Social Security when his blueprint for America was submitted to the floor for approval. He may be the most flexible in terms of amicability working across the partisan aisle but he isn’t known for being a fighter for the people or getting the job done. Would he be considered dangerous to the Neocon agenda? If he compromises his policies at the drop of a hat, the only danger I see, is agreeing to swim with sharks knowing there is a good possibility of ending up as shark bait.

    I see him as a Quayle figure compliment to the steamrolling Bush/Cheney vanguard.

    You can read his wiki here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)

    ________________

    Thanks Big Cat and rgb44hrc for the PINO translation. I’m familiar with the RINO and DINO euphimisms but the ‘Progressive’ label somehow over time escaped my notice.

  60. BIGCAT: YOU are absolutely CORRECT—the only ones making out is your ADMIN, or POLITICALS in PLACE< not your average person.

    WE HAVE NOT haD A RAISE IN 6 years, our pensions are minimal—unless you started 30 years ago.

    I don't know where she's getting her statistics from, but it's gotta by the BLUE COLLAR public servants—it's certainly not us lowly, clerks and office personnel.

    H4T: YOU ARE WRONG——

  61. BIGCAT: your absolutely right, it is Propaganda.

    It’s your Politically Connected or possibly your Blue Collar workers making the big bucks, not to mention the ADMINS and their appointee’s, it’s not the average everyday lowly white collar women,

    we haven’t had a raise in 6 damn years——-do the math.

  62. confloyd
    January 21st, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Mrs.Smith

    I feel sorry for you in all that snow…its time to come to Texas…it only cold and rainy here. It’s dismal everywhere! There’s nothing to be excited about with Odumbo in office giving away everything to HU.
    _______________

    Feeling like a shut-in is what this every 3-4 day snowfall does to people. Everyone is sick of running for bread and milk, candles and sterno, if the power goes out. Texas weather seems to be ideal. For me,I love the heat but abhor the cold. The idea of an afternoon siesta waiting for the cool down is more appealing to me than the prospect of sitting in outdoor clothing and an afghan on your LR sofa trying to keep warm reading a book by graylight.

  63. I just heard at my job that there will be no layoffs, but if someone quits they are NOT going to refill the position. This is a hospital folks….its about to get real BAD! They laid off 17 at the Level I trauma center that is our top hospital in this group of hospital. I just pray that I keep my job…I’m too old to look for another one and too young for Social Security….so I am just screwed if this happens!

  64. BigCatLover
    January 21st, 2011 at 11:51 am
    Ryan is the new BO. Shiny, young, exciting,with no executive experience but does have a plan to get rid of SS.
    I predict he’ll be on the VP shortlist.
    *********************
    This tendency to gravitate to the young ‘charismatic’ personality to lead the country is really starting to worry me. Whether it be Barack Obama or Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan or whoever, the country needs EXPERIENCE, INTELLIGENCE, and COMTETENCE in our leaders, not personality or even inspiration now, IMO.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Unfortunately, US politics has devolved into American Idol type popularity contests. Granted, throughout our history, there’s been plenty of sorry examples of form triumphing over substance. But I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say that it has only gotten worse.

    Going back to 2000, the media gave the under-experienced Gov. of Texas a free pass. His family background was supposed to be the ballast to the otherwise balsa-weight intellect. “Don’t worry, papa Cheney will make sure that Junior doesn’t screw up the country”. Yet they did.

    The Democrats’ response in 2008 was to pick an even lighter candidate, with barely an paper trail and lots of “absent” votes. And the MSM was there to dutifully prop up yet another empty suit, and shield the candidate from public scrutiny.

    Absolutely disgusting.

    And the voters ultimately have to be held responsible. I don’t want to hear someone whining about being “let down”, after voting for a sham.

    You broke it, you bought it. Have an nice country.

  65. Mrs. Smith
    It’s sunny here today, but the snow makes me very depressed again. Our previous snow had just melted, and voila there’s more, and it’s only January. We still have February to get through.

  66. With State Of The Union address coming up, and aready at plus 5.6% approval , he may very well hit the mid 50’s in approval next week….

  67. rgb44hrc
    January 21st, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    I’m hesitant to blame the voters with the voting debacles we’ve had since 2000. Yes, citizens are easily manipulated, but our election sytems are out of control. No one with a big magaphone seems to be calling for election reform, but why would they when the parties and corporations and military have all figured out how to use it to their advantage. It boggles the mind if you think about it too long.

  68. BigCat, I know that promises were made. And it’s sad that every promise can’t be kept. But reality is reality. You cannot meet those continuing obligations just by taxing the rich – there is simply not enough money there. That’s reality.

    I may have, when times were good, promised my kid I’d pay for him to go to Harvard. But when the day comes, the money is not there. I don’t WANT to break my promise. But the fact is he may have to be content with a State school. Ignoring the reality that the budget is busted, because “You promised!!” is an exercise in futility.

    The danger that I see looming is that if the employees don’t agree to SOME kind of compromise re: pension cuts, the public will get disgusted and throw them to the wolves. And I for one don’t want to see that happen. I also agree that a lot of superfluous administrators and bureaucrats get the lions share of high salaries and benefits, and I’d love to see the public unions fight on that battleground – don’t cut the damn janitors and teachers, cut the freaking 47 vice-assistants to the under-poobah positions that are really unneeded.

  69. Where you and I disagree is that is not ‘sad’ that promises cannot be kept, but it is criminal. There is never just one solution to a problem, but several. And I’m also saying that employees have agreed to compromises (my sister taking involuntary days off without pay, for example). Yes, cut all the big salaries, I have no problem with that. But, cut pensions for the lower paid workers, I cannot agree to.

  70. Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.”
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    This Hawaii governor is driving me nuts with these unintelligible/enigmatic statements. Does he mean it is so politically or constitutionally unthinkable that he and others will do anything to cover up this story or is he saying that someone has to solve this problem?

    ================

    If he wanted it covered up he wouldn’t be talking about it at all, would he?

    Poor fellow, if he’s going looking for the Emperor’s New Clothes he will probably get stabbed in the back by the Emperor.

  71. BigCat, if they can come up with a budget that works going forward without doing it, I’m all for keeping the pensions for the older workers unmodified. I agree with you that it’s unfair. But I have yet to see anyone propose a solution that actually comes up with the money without cooking the books and playing PollyAnna that it will all somehow magically work out.

    You may be right that its criminal. You are indeed right that it’s completely unfair. But Math doesn’t care.

  72. votermom
    January 21st, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Most Dems voted for Hillary and they threw our votes out.I blame the superdelegates, most of all Ted Kennedy.

    =======================

    Obama spun it against the Supers but actually they were our only hope to override the Bots who packed the red state caucuses. He wants to get rid of the Supers because they are a danger to him.

  73. H4T,

    Welome back! YOu’re being missed elsewhere.

    Cutting salaries is not quite as bad as cutting pensions. Salaried people are young enough to find another job. The old people can’t do that.

  74. turndownobama
    Has Obama said that he wants to do away with the super delegates, I hadn’t heard that. That was his final ace in the hole to win the dem nomination in 2008.

  75. Caucuses are idiotic… so glad my state doesn’t have them. And I’m glad the GOP has winner-take-all primaries – I have a feeling that makes it harder for them to do the same tricks on SP.
    But I still blame Ted Kennedy.

  76. The following raises an intriguing question, at least in my mind. In a nutshell, Morris is saying that a politician must not get down in the mud with their detractors and answer every charge. Here the detractors are not just the loony left but the whole of big media. The alternative is to ignore these charges, and let them collapse under their own weight. That seems to be what Morris is saying, although I also get the sense that he is worried that big media is trying to define the entire party by what Sarah says, and does not want them to be in that box. Hillary made it a practice to not respond the such charges or get down in the gutter with the gutter snipes. For better or for worse.

    In Sarah’s case it is not clear to me that ignoring such charges is a viable strategy. Not when you are fighting bitter clinging left wing jouranlists and you are a centrist or right wing politician. First of all, I have some doubts that a public that lacks a moral center or a sense of the traditions of this country recognize a propaganda campaign for what it is and reject it when it goes beyond a certain point. Second, there are situations where silence and a failure to rebut will be taken as an admission. Third, at a purely emotional level, supporters want the politician to defend herself and counter attack.

    To me, the better strategy is to note the charges in passing, acknowledge that the first amendment protects even baseless slanderous charges like these when they are directed at a public figure, and then tell the public that she will leave it to them to decide whether those charges are fair, because she has more important matters to attend to that involve helping to save this country from the perils that lie ahead. But do not ignore the charges, because you want the public to hear them again, conclude that they are unfair and hold them against the people who make them.

    THE PERILS OF PALIN

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on January 19, 2011

    Printer-Friendly Version

    After Tucson shootings, Sarah Palin’s unfavorable rating in the CNN poll rose from 49% before the midterm elections to 56% now. It was not the left wing charges that Sarah Palin had somehow incited the Tucson shooter by her aggressive political rhetoric that did her damage. Polls show that voters discounted these statements and even Congressman Giffords’ husband has made clear that there was no political motive involved. It was Palin’s response to these attacks that got her in trouble. Her highly publicized accusation that the criticism was a “blood libel,” turned voters off. As sincere admirers of hers’, we hope she learns a lesson from this exchange.

    The lesson is simply this: She should not become a battering ram hammering at liberal critics – getting down into the mud with them – answering every attack, no matter how low, personal, or undeserved it is. She is a potential candidate for the Republican Party. As such, she needs to keep her own head unbloodied and intact. Battering rams don’t find that easy to do.

    The left plays Sarah like a fiddle. They pile on with totally outrageous attacks aiming at her personal life, her children, her family, and – now – linking her to murder. These disgraceful attacks do not score points with the voters. In fact, they tend to trigger a sympathetic feeling toward Sarah when they are leveled. But, for some reason, Palin feels constrained to answer them, to reply, to tell her side of the story (aka the truth)

    The result of the exchange is that both sides lose: her attackers and Palin herself both suffer. But the attackers aren’t running for anything. They just go on to the next attack. They are after ratings and circulation not votes and the more sensational their accusations and the more vulnerable the target, the better. But Palin has an image to protect and when she is hurt in these exchanges, it matters politically.

    Palin’s basic point was, as usual, sound. These killings were the act of an evil madman not anything related to our political dialogue. But this sensible point got buried and many voters looked at the “blood libel” statement as self-indulgent and thin-skinned. To them, Palin seemed to be the one using the murders to besmirch her enemies, even though she was only answering their charges. Critics charged that she looked more concerned about her defending own personal reputation from the attacks than with the national tragedy that had just taken place.

    The point is that Palin should not and cannot answer. She needs to rise above the attacks. If she is going to run for president, she needs to be presidential. She can’t descend to the level of her critics. She needs to do what makes her look good – fighting for less government and conservative causes, not what makes her look bad – fighting with her enemies.

    If Palin took the high road – as Obama did – and decry the violence into our society and stick to condemning the killings, she would not have been hurt by the liberal charges. But, by answering, she exposed herself and got hurt.

    Next time, we hope she learns her lesson.

  77. With State Of The Union address coming up, and aready at plus 5.6% approval , he may very well hit the mid 50’s in approval next week
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    I am sticking with the Jay Cost analysis for now, which says in effect the fundamentals have not changed, and regardless of these blips his political life or death in 2012 will be determined by jobs, the deficit and health care in that order. I do not think you can draw any outcome determinative conclusion from these numbers, even though emotionally I am right where you are, wondering why the people they poll cannot see the snake oil salesman for what he is. Again, the fault lies with big media who promote an image more so than the man. I do think however that the media will be the determining factor in 2012 unless those on the other side find some way to marginalize them. For example, I am in favor of three debates, to be held on public television, with non big media superstars doing the moderating. Where Republicans are concerned why feed the hand that bites you?

  78. I disagree with “rise above the attacks”. That doesn’t work when the attacks are basically hate-based. Look at Kerry and swift-boat when he tried to rise above it. She’s doing the right thing is countering every attack and turning it into an opening.
    I don’t think “blood libel” is turning people away from her — only the ones looking for another reason to hate her. The disapproval rating numbers are as dubious as BO’s approval rating numbers.

  79. Oh, and BTW, one of the big reasons the pension funds are bankrupt is because they got decimated in the crash of the big Housing Ponzi. Caused by the completely illegal actions and schemes of the banks WE bailed out.

    Notice that no one is yelling at them. Notice that the right yells at the public sector, and the left yells at any of their neighbors “rich” enough to make over 250,000, but the uber-architects of the Enron-type scam that destroyed our economy walk away scot free, as ever.

    Screw taxing the rich more. If someone makes a bundle honestly, I have no problem with that person. Yeah, they should pay more than others, but I have no wish to tax them into oblivion. I DO, however, want to see perp walks and jail time for the criminals who created the Ponzi housing market that put what they KNEW was “fake” money into all those pension funds.

  80. I DO, however, want to see perp walks and jail time for the criminals who created the Ponzi housing market that put what they KNEW was “fake” money into all those pension funds.
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    Agree 100%.

  81. BigCatLover,
    There’s not a whole lot in the news or elsewhere not to be depressed….I sure looking forward to Spring.

    I have worked my butt off on the treadmill this month and only lost 3lbs. Its hell losing weight at 60. Oh well I’ve gone down 2 pants sizes, so I’m taking off inches and the old face is holding up so far, but anyday I expect to see my cheeks hanging on my neck! So there’s not a whole lot to be excited about!

  82. Does Obama Fear a Hillary Clinton Primary Challenge?

    By Peter Roff
    January 21, 2011

    If there was ever a sign that the White House is nervous about 2012, it’s the news that a covey of senior White House aides and Democratic National Committee operatives are headed to Chicago to open President Barack Obama’s re-election headquarters—nearly two years in advance of the election.

    Typically, an incumbent president hangs back, raises money, and keeps the presidential politicking under the cover of his official duties. Obama and his team, reacting to the results of the 2010 election and the mood of the country, correctly understand this is a luxury not available to them. But since the GOP field is, right now, wide open, it’s a curious move.

    Larry Sabato, the left-leaning political analyst from the University of Virginia has identified almost a score of Republican elected officials, former officer holders and leftover candidates from the last race who can legitimately be thought of as potential candidates in 2012. With a field that big, it will be a long and probably bloody road from the Iowa cornfields and the mountains of New Hampshire to Tampa, Fla., and the GOP nomination. Obama could just sit back, work on redefining his presidency, and let other party chew itself up fighting for the right to run against him. Instead, he’s pulling the trigger on his own campaign well in advance. What’s going on? [Read more about the 2012 presidential election.]

    It could be that Obama’s political team has looked at the polls and realized he needs to engage in active political efforts to win back the support of independents, who handed him the keys to the White House in 2008 but who gave the speaker’s gavel to Ohio Republican John Boehner and strengthened the hand of the Senate Republican Leader, Kentucky’s Mitch McConnell, in 2010. But independents are not allowed to vote in party primaries in many states—meaning they’ll be focused on the general election from start to finish.

    That also means they likely won’t make up their mind about how they are going to vote until they know who the GOP nominee is—unless they have already decided to vote against Obama. In that case, their votes generally aren’t up for grabs, now or later. They’re already gone.

    There is, however, another possibility—and it’s an intriguing one: that Obama has a sense he is going to have to beat a motivated, well-financed, and perhaps even well-established opponent in the Democratic primary who comes at him, not from the left, but from the right.

    To illustrate the point, imagine how easy it would be for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who most people expected to win the Democratic nomination and the election last time around—to mount such a campaign were she to opt to run. It would not be hard for her to position herself as the candidate of “the sensible center,” straddling the middle between the over-spending, over-taxing left and the Tea Party right.

    Hillary, of course, has said she is not running. Many times. Still, her husband Bill is the only Democrat to win two presidential elections since Franklin Roosevelt. And he was only able to accomplish that by pivoting sharply to the right in the middle of his first term. [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on Obama.]

    Obama is much more heavily invested in the left than Clinton ever was—meaning he has far less room to maneuver and, based on the way he has conducted his presidency during its first two years, considerably less political skill. He has to stay on the left in order to keep his personal political base motivated. He has to continue to pander to them in ways the rest of the country rejects and which, as matters of policy go, have been failures thus far. Hence the exodus of some of his top aides to Chicago. They know he’s vulnerable, but from the right—meaning they have to get his political operation up and running now in order to collect commitments and crowd out his potential opponents. His renomination depends on it.

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2011/01/21/does-obama-fear-a-hillary-clinton-primary-challenge

  83. Clinton to discuss drug war in Mexico on Monday
    (AFP) – 2 hours ago

    MEXICO CITY — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will make a one-day visit to Mexico next week to discuss bilateral issues including organized crime, the Mexican and US governments said Friday.

    Clinton will meet on Monday with Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa in the city of Guanajuato, in central Mexico some 230 miles (370 kilometers) northwest of the capital, the Mexican foreign ministry and US State Department said.

    Collaboration on fighting Mexico’s violent drug gangs will be on the agenda, as will the closely-tied countries’ competitiveness as they emerge from the financial crisis, and infrastructure development along their 2,000-mile (3,000-kilometer) border.

    The pair will discuss “joint cooperation to combat organized crime, strengthening the competitiveness of our two economies, modernizing the border between our countries and advancing the global climate change agenda after the Cancun Summit,” Clinton spokesman Philip Crowley said in a statement.

    The visit comes as drug violence continues to plague parts of Mexico, including a string of attacks in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco and the northern business hub of Monterrey since the start of the year.

    Drug violence left 15,273 dead in Mexico in 2010, according to official figures, making it the deadliest year yet since President Felipe Calderon launched a military crackdown on organized crime four years ago, with tens of thousands of troops.

    The United States — the main market for Mexico-trafficked drugs and supplier of illegal weapons — has offered training and equipment to Mexico’s security forces under a three-year, 1.3-billion-dollar Merida Initiative, which is set to be extended this year.

    “The United States and Mexico share many opportunities and challenges and work collaboratively on a wide range of issues,” Crowley said.

    “This visit is an opportunity to reinforce the close relations between the two nations and to identify common objectives and strategies to ensure greater security and well-being for the citizens of both countries,” he said.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i9Bcy_P7FWJHRKj1271CznkPx4cA?docId=CNG.603f0a54fe27765e702c2354a10cae3b.1b1

  84. “balsa-weight intellect. “Don’t worry, papa Cheney will make sure that Junior doesn’t screw up the country”. Yet they did.”
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    Watching Brian Williams with the old BushI/Cheney crew last night sitting at a round table rehashing Gulf I and II was an esoteric exercise in futility. BushI could barely remember his son personalized Gulf II when he arbtrarily decide to go into Iraq and kill Hussein as a privtae vendetta with oil the root of all evil keeping their Trust Funds flush. When the yammering and stammering began is when friends like Baker and Scokroft jumping in filling in the blanks was
    almost comical. Powell, transcending with “911 changed everything” the automatic coverup for getting Hussein neutralized and smoothig the way for an inroad excuse of protecting those pipelines.

    Balsa-weight was not at the roundtable discussion. The geriatric reunion of the past bleeding America dry of it’s financial resources would have been holding court on the prudent worthiness of entering Iraq in the first place especially with Cheney’s words of recommendation to BushI on Kuwait… “If we go into Iraq, theres no way out.” played out to this day.

  85. Michelle Obama going on Oprah Winfrey show on Thursday

    ………………………

    Remind me not to watch.

  86. moon,

    I’m sure the two of them will be booked everywhere including American Idol with the elections coming up.

  87. She’s coming over more Moo-loca by the minute, she’s batshit nasty. I hope she drops down a well somewhere when no-ones around. She is just a horrible woman.

    I hope Hillary gives her a slap next time she’s in Chicago. I’m sick of these racist assholes turning their back on the Clintons after all they did for them.

    They would not have half the things they have had Bill Clinton not eased the way for them.

    Ungrateful Bastards.

  88. Braun is the new Brazile…an asshole of the highest order! I sick of these racist assholes myself, can you imagine what Bill C. is thinking knowing Hillary helped her so much. He must be living on rage these days!

    Now maybe Rahn can see his mistake backing the “One”.

  89. The Clintons have done a lot more for the African American community than Obnama ever will, and their betrayal of Hillary in the primary was the thanks the Clintons got. This is very similar to how the AA community turned on the Jews after all we did to help them (and continue to do).

  90. The Clinton’s have helped loads of folks, but always seem to get knifed in back for it. I am so sick of that I can hardly stand it.

    Hillary is working her ass off and the “fake potus” gets the credit. Sickening and all the while the Braun’s and the Brazile’s continue to talk Monica…pure disgusting!

    Thank goodness they keep doing it though, just think where we’d be if Hillary were not doing the work that she is doing…scary to even think about it.

  91. Carol MB is a loser and a joke. I don’t believe anyone listens to her..
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    JanH

    January 21st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Does Obama Fear a Hillary Clinton Primary Challenge?
    ____________

    Accurate analysis, imo- Jan. Obama isn’t coasting on any string of accomplishments. He campaigns with the HCR Act hanging like an albatross around his neck. I doubt people will be forgiving at all now that the truth about it being a Tax with egregious punishment for non compliance has surfaced. The midterms should be a raised flag to him, his candidacy is tenuous at best.

  92. “Rahm’s support among AA’s has doubled since Bill campaigned for him, despite the “racial controversy”.”

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    Good. I’m not a Rahm fan, but I definitely want this woman to tank.

  93. jbstonesfan
    January 21st, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    The Clintons have done a lot more for the African American community than Obnama ever will, and their betrayal of Hillary in the primary was the thanks the Clintons got. This is very similar to how the AA community turned on the Jews after all we did to help them (and continue to do).
    _________________

    Sadly, how true-

  94. this is a good read…on target…and info that many of us are aware of…the problem is ‘what are we going to do about it?’ ‘what can we do about it?’

    noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/01/21/obamacrats-she-cant-win/

    By SeattleGonzclose Author: SeattleGonz Name: Seattle Gonz

    I was inspired by a NQ reader, who found a way to get me a private message, to write the second election strategy employed by Obamacrats. The first, as you recall, although, really they are not in any hierarchical order, was, “He did it too.” The second is:

    2. I like her, but she can’t win.

    The reasons why “she” (and, she can be any female, left or right, who is in fact threatening to win.) can’t win will invariably be determined by high negatives achieved in manipulated polling data. (Manipulated to give her high negatives.) This strategy is already being played out by Obamacrats with regard to Palin. Obamacrats pretend to be Republicans, conservatives, Feminist Democrats, former Hillary supporters, Center Democrats, any stripe of political bent that they believe will get you to take their words more seriously, and then they’ll lay it on you — “I like Palin, and hate what they’ve done to her, but, now there’s no chance she can win the presidency. And what’s most important is that we beat Obama.” (They’ll take a big gulp from their mountain dew after they write that. Have some compassion, It can’t be easy to be as disingenuous and deceitful as they have to be in order to achieve what they believe to be their higher aims.)

    When you counter (If you’re a Palin supporter) with your surprise or frustration that such a bogus statement has been made, they’ll present you with articles and polls.

    The polls are manufactured narratives, we already know that. And since they’re the underpinning for most articles on the subject, the articles are fraudulent as well. Obamacrats are great storytellers, they build the narrative from the ground up.

    I’ll refer to the past as a way to illuminate the present. April 2007, Real Clear ran the following story:

    April 19, 2007
    Huge Increase in Hillary’s Negatives Changing Presidential Race By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann.

    There has been a sudden and highly significant shift in the Democratic Presidential race: Hillary Clinton is rapidly losing her frontrunner position to Barack Obama as her negative ratings climb.

    According to the Gallup poll, most Americans don’t like Hillary Clinton and the number of people who view her negatively has been steadily increasing ever since she announced her candidacy for President in January.

    Hillary isn’t wearing well. It seems as if the more people see her, the less they like her. Now, for the first time, her low likeability levels are costing her votes, as Democratic party voters are abandoning her to support Barack Obama.

    In February, Hillary had a 19 point lead over Obama. He is now only 5 points behind her.

    The most recent Gallup Poll, taken on April 13-15th, shows the biggest increase in negative opinions of Hillary since March of 2001, when she was awash in the pardons and White House china theft scandals.

    snip

    (read the rest…it is all to familiar to us…we have to battle around this to win)

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    also…re: carol mausley braun and her comments…her comments sound racist, in and of themselves, to me…

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    I hope Bill has good reasons for supporting Rahm…I don’t know about that one???

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  95. God Help them…………….

    Joe Biden thanks House Dems for their hard work — 53 minute speech so far.

  96. Just one correction to your article, admin: Hu has several titles, but one of them is not ‘Prime Minister’. Wen Jiabao is Prime Minister.

    Hu is President.

  97. S
    January 21st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    ________________

    False assumption. If we haven’t grown after learning there are no depths to which Obama will sink to win, then we don’t deserve the prize in the end.

    Obama can not repeat the same tactics he’s used to dupe the America people. All he’s done so far is putup false polls of his approval rating. Today I noticed, he’s doing the same thng to Sarah Palin’s polling numbers, false disapproval numbers. It won’t work.

    He’s a fool if he thinks he can fool the public twice by negative polling against “her” no matter who that her is!

  98. From JanH article:

    “It would not be hard for her to position herself as the candidate of “the sensible center,” straddling the middle between the over-spending, over-taxing left and the Tea Party right.”
    __________

    Yeah, OK, follow you so far. But then:

    “…Bill is the only Democrat to win two presidential elections since Franklin Roosevelt. And he was only able to accomplish that by pivoting sharply to the right in the middle of his first term.”
    ______________

    No, no, and no again. Bill did nothing of the kind. This writer has got ‘left’-‘right’ water on the brain. Viz:

    “Obama is much more heavily invested in the left than Clinton ever was—meaning he has far less room to maneuver and, based on the way he has conducted his presidency during its first two years, considerably less political skill.”
    ____________
    No political skill at all, you mean. All this presumes ø has some ‘leftist’ agenda. In fact he has no agenda of the left, right or middle, top or bottom. It’s all about Him.

    Then we get more talk about the “left”:

    “He has to stay on the left in order to keep his personal political base motivated. He has to continue to pander to them in ways the rest of the country rejects and which, as matters of policy go, have been failures thus far.”
    __________

    The “left”, if that means anything at all, has been under the bus since the middle of 2008. They’re just too dumb to realize it, and this writer is even dumber than they are.

    As for the possibility of Hillary running, the writer is also too dumb to realize that she’s not going to “opt” for a primary challenge out of the thin air. The only way she will enter the primaries in 2012 is (1) if someone else makes a successful challenge first, like McCarthy in 1968 followed by RFK, and (2) if we get a successful Hillary draft movement going.

  99. “I hope Bill has good reasons for supporting Rahm…I don’t know about that one???”
    ____________________

    If those are not your words, don’t wwaste your time explaing the Clintons to someone who will never understand.

  100. JanH: “Good. I’m not a Rahm fan, but I definitely want this woman to tank.”

    I don’t dislike Rahm. Why should I? Just because he was ø’s CoS? Bill describes Rahm as an honest dealer. Maybe he is! That would be a breath of fresh air for Chicago. Anyway, I agree with you I’d like to see that woman tank.

  101. Mrs. Smith
    January 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    S
    January 21st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
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    False assumption. If we haven’t grown after learning there are no depths to which Obama will sink to win, then we don’t deserve the prize in the end.

    Obama can not repeat the same tactics he’s used to dupe the America people. All he’s done so far is putup false polls of his approval rating. Today I noticed, he’s doing the same thng to Sarah Palin’s polling numbers, false disapproval numbers. It won’t work.

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    Mrs. Smith,

    …with all due respect I believe that is what the article is stating…the manipulation that took place the last time and still is in place and will be used again…

    and frankly, I agree with that…we need to be prepared to counteract or diffuse this even with the disadvantage of the constant, daily brainwashing of the media from all sides nonstop…

    you state:

    False assumption. If we haven’t grown after learning there are no depths to which Obama will sink to win, then we don’t deserve the prize in the end.

    ****************************

    that may be true, but it isn’t a working solution or a strategy…and the ground work is being laid right now…as the writer says, they start the narrative and then the drive it into the mainstream…and then, from what I (we) have observed, the MSM picks up the ‘narrative’, scandal, whatever, and pushes it every day non stop on cable and in print…

    …and now that Immett is O’s job finder guy…gee, that is even more convenient with the NBC-Comcast deal going forward…Comcast…NBC…O…do you think any republican woman, democratic woman…or anyone opposing O is going to get anything resembling a fair shake…pleeease…(constant daily brainwashing, rigged polls and debates)

    yes, they will try to get away with what worked before again…they may, in fact, have to change some of their SLOGANS…yes, I will agree with you there…but their tactics, strategy…no, game on…

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    you say:

    He’s a fool if he thinks he can fool the public twice by negative polling against “her” no matter who that her
    *************************************

    I wish I could be as confident…O still has the whole MSM writing his narrative…that is the essence of that post…and it continues today as we speak…
    as in, ‘O surges’ ‘O is comeback kid’ bla, bla…in fact, it is this very kind of info that has JBStonesfan concerned as he looks at the current polls and he has commented on…

    my point in posting this and I think what the writer meant was…get ready, the brainwashing and O cheerleading and fake progress and false achievements, etc is coming for the re-election strategy…(and yes, Mrs. S…alot of people can and will be “fooled by this all over again”)

    imho, I think one of the main reasons O has had a bump is the ‘rallying around the Pres” because of Tuscon…AND…the fact that we now have ‘divided govt’ with the repubs running the House gives comfort to some independents…so O is less threatening to them with that set-up…they have “checked” him

    *******************************************

    again, imho…I think we are foolish to think that a combination of what O did during the first presidential race with the almost complete complicity of the MSM and the ratching up the race card, etc won’t “fool” people again…just wait until all the fanfare and hysteria starts and the screaming people get bussed in again…and the MSM writes and reports about it…

    as one of the articles stated above, O, as a sitting president, is jumping the gun, so to speak, to get his re-election up and running in corrupt Chicago and he does not even have anyone running against him yet…and the media is already setting the stage for his second coronation…

    if one takes a look at Dana Milbank’s article today in WP re: SP, one can see the tone and the constant marginalization, ridicule and condescenion that is going to be used towards her…and I would say, just about anyone, running against O…here comes the snark!

    I agree with the bottom line that has been discussed…it will still be “the economy, stupid”

    jobs (foreclosures) and the economy will be the bottom line…however there is going to be a lot of static, lies and misinformation before we get there…

    …so we need to find new ways to get around the tactics we know are coming…because, let’s be honest, they beat us last time…they walked in and ‘took the prize’ and got away with it…

    been there, done that…

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    rgb44hrc
    January 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    &&&&&&&&&

    But how do you really feel?
    ………………….

    I’m not sure you are joking or implying something?

  103. Does this sound weird to anyone else………

    Alexi Giannoulias off to Argentina to write book

    WASHINGTON–Former Illinois treasurer Alexi Giannoulias, who lost his Democratic Senate race is off to Buenos Aires, he told me, heading to Argentina to recharge and “write a book about the campaign and getting young people involved.”

    Catching up here; Giannoulias called to say he was leaving Chicago for a few months on Wednesday, while I was covering the arrivals at the China State dinner.

  104. Moon,
    What is our extradition treaty with Argentina??? That might tell us something and then it might not! I don’t know! LOL!

  105. Confloyd, i don’t know but i do know Argentina is a good place for laundering cash and banks that don’t ask questions not that I am in any way saying that is what he is going there for.

  106. Moon,
    I didn’t know Alex could write a book, it seems just about anyone can write one these days…well I guess you don’t have to be a Poe or a Twain to write one these days!

    I’m sure he has a purpose for going to Argentina, but I can bet its not to write a book. They arrested a huge amount of mafioso’s in New York, maybe their starting next in Chicago now?? LOL!

  107. exactly Confloyd….these people just don’t go off to Argentina for a few months to write a campaign book…what campaign book, his was a fucking disaster. I’m guessing possibly a federal indictment coming down the wire and getting out of dodge. Besides there a few countries he could piss off to, if they came knocking for him.

  108. …so we need to find new ways to get around the tactics we know are coming…because, let’s be honest, they beat us last time…they walked in and ‘took the prize’ and got away with it…

    been there, done that…
    ____________________-

    Leave the worrying to the Clintons. They know what they are doing and how to go about it. Hillary learned her lesson isolating Bill from the campaign. It won’t happen again. They are the PROs. If they need our help we’re here and ready to rock and roll.

    All they need do is ask-

  109. There is no excuse why medical costs are that high these days, thats why i enjoy living here, its so cheap.

    My healthcare plan here in Turkey cost me 980 dollars last year and i will not use it unless something serious happens and even then it costs nothing.

    I had an operation (private hospital not state healthcare) on my foot earlier this year, when they took out a growth on one side that kept growing, took two local operations, anaestethics, couple of hours, cost less than 200 dollars, i was amazed near fell of the chair. I tell people these days, if you need an op, do it abroad.

    When you look around the world and see how other countries can do health care so much cheaper you see how much they are scamming us in America.

  110. S

    You may want to read the “Nash Equilibrium” for a different perspective or better perspective on how the strategy’s of campaigns correlate to his mathematical theory. (Bill is well aware of this theory. I’ve heard the examples he’s used without attribution to Nash because it’s unecessary)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium

    The example you gave earlier from NQ could be used as the “control” as we already know the outcome. Obama’s strategy will be using different stratagems as they did targeting Palin associating her with the Tucson tragedy.

    My prediction is… no matter what strategy he tries, he will fail.

  111. Well, it looks like the National Enquirer is reporting that Todd Palin is having an affair with a masseuse/madame by the last name of Tripp. I hope this information is not true. Either way, true or not, I feel for Sarah as the media continues to try to destroy her in any way that they can. She has shown a lot of character during this character assassination attempts.

    If Todd is having an affair, then shame on him for doing so, especially during a time that he must know he and his family’s lives are under a microscope.

  112. nomobama,
    Looks like the same cartel that gave Hillary and Bill so much hell is targeting the Palin’s.

    Isn’t one of their children named Tripp and wasn’t there a Tripp involved with the Monica thing…I mean if they are going to make up lies, lets start using new names…for pete’s sake!

  113. There is nothing Obama will refrain from doing if it will ensure his re-election

    – Ducksoup

    Obama has repeatedly claimed he would rather be a good one-term president than a bad two-term president; as ALWAYS with Obama, the exact opposite is the truth. Obama wants re-election more than he wants anything on this planet and anyone who has to suffer to make his re-election possible is of NO CONCERN to him.

    If Social Security has to be destroyed to make Obama’s re-election possible, Obama will destroy Social Security.

    If financially-strapped states feel the need to declare bankruptcy — enabling them to default on the pensions of public employees and default on their state’s bonds — Obama will help pass legislation so the states can legally declare bankruptcy.

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/

  114. Is Barack Obama a Patriot? by Larry Johnson

    …..
    We have serious reason to doubt that Obama is sincere about advancing the best interest of America. I don’t question Barack’s patriotism because of a couple of verbal gaffes. Nope, I look at his past current acts. We are not talking about one isolated act, but a pattern of activity and association that is troubling. And Barack does not help erase these images when he continues to omit basic phrases such as “endowed by their Creator” when he is quoting what is the equivalent of American scripture.

    I do hope that Barack acts in the interest of America. But a committed Patriot? The jury is still out. I’m orginally from Missouri and you must Show Me.

    For more read

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/01/20/is-barack-obama-a-patriot/#more-55642

  115. Peter Roff op-eded:
    With a field that big, it will be a long and probably bloody road from the Iowa cornfields and the mountains of New Hampshire to Tampa, Fla., and the GOP nomination. Obama could just sit back, work on redefining his presidency, and let other party chew itself up fighting for the right to run against him. Instead, he’s pulling the trigger on his own campaign well in advance.

    ================

    What violent rhetoric!
    /snark

  116. Has Obama said that he wants to do away with the super delegates, I hadn’t heard that. That was his final ace in the hole to win the dem nomination in 2008.

    ===========================

    Obama’s ‘primary reform’ committee attempted to weaken the Supers in a meeting in Jan 2009 iirc. Did not get everything he wanted.

    The Supers were OUR only chance in 2008. Obama’s Bots had got a lot phoney delegates from states that never vote Dem in Nov, which Hillary hadn’t even campaigned in. He pretended that those ‘elected’ delegates were the only ones that counted. If there had been no Supers at all, he would have won just by the ‘elected’ delegates.

    The job of the Supers was supposed to be to give mature overview judgement to prevent just the sort of thing Obama (and McGovern before him) had done: pack caucuses with the young and clueless and nominate some rock star. This time some Supers did their job and supported Hillary; others got bribed or threatened or snowed and supported Obama.

    Hopefully they’ve learned their lesson and will do their job right in 2012.

  117. I don’t want to get into the whole, ‘All Union workers are overpaid and ripping everyone else off’…………give me a flying break, that is pure bull shit for the majority of union employees. Yup the folks at the top might get all the perks and they should get busted, for all the little fish…they get paid less to make up for health care and sick days.

    The rest is a crock.

    ————-

    moononpluto

    Did I miss this.

    Hawaii governor can’t find Obama birth certificate
    Suggests controversy could hurt president’s re-election chances

    ———–
    Well ain’t that cool, he shoots off his big mouth about how he followed the brightest star and saw Barry being born, and now can’t find the photoshopped copy of the BC.

    Let’s all moon this idiot.

  118. 2012 all depends on jobs, and who the Republican’s run. It it is the same old same old, O will slide by.

  119. Mrs. S.

    All they need do is ask-
    ——–
    They don’t even have to ask, we have been begging since Hillary laid down her sword. 😉

  120. moononpluto
    January 21st, 2011 at 7:08 pm
    ********
    There is no doubt America is overpriced in medical billing, but as an Rn, I can tell you if they charge you 200 dollars for an operation (2 ? ) medical personal are working for pennies per hour or it is HEAVILY subsidized. Someone is paying for it one way or another.

  121. confloyd
    January 21st, 2011 at 7:44 pm
    Nice catch on the Tripp thing. I immediately thought about Linda Tripp and BC but forgot about the Palin child Tripp.

  122. By the way, the fool on the hill picked the Bears vs the Packers Saturday NFC Championship. Really? Say goodbye to Wisconsin voters! I was born and raised there, believe, it will not be forgotten.

  123. Does this sound weird to anyone else………

    Alexi Giannoulias off to Argentina to write book
    **********

    Cry for me Argentina?

  124. Olbermann is gone. Finis. Finished. No longer working for MSNBC. Tonight was his last show, just announced. No reason given.

    Big surprise – no one knew or had an inkling, and the DailyKooks and HuffyPo are going ballistic. HA! *popcorn*

  125. wbboei
    January 21st, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    With State Of The Union address coming up, and aready at plus 5.6% approval , he may very well hit the mid 50’s in approval next week
    *********

    I don’t believe it

  126. wbboei
    January 21st, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    ***********8

    I think she should belittle them with sarcasm and humor. That’s what I would do. I think it would freak them out. I don’t think they could handle it.

  127. Slanted poll or not, every news and talk program keeps parroting that Obama has risen in the polls. They have to be destroyed this election or there will be no chance of fairness.

  128. Olbermann leaving MSNBC

    ———
    Best news I have heard all year.
    I hope he has to live on unemployment and doesn’t land another job until his fraud pResident is out of office!

    Good riddance, Karma baby!!!

  129. Makes me nervous that maybe Olbermann has been given a job with the re-elect O campaign. I hope he just lost his temper and threw in the towel in a fit of anger. Hope, hope hope.

  130. If Palin took the high road – as Obama did – and decry the violence into our society and stick to condemning the killings, she would not have been hurt by the liberal charges.
    ********

    What is that fool smoking?

  131. I think it may be over in Chicago
    ***********

    By MEREDITH SHINER | 1/20/11 6:37 PM EST Updated: 1/21/11 2:55 PM EST

    Rahm Emanuel has tapped his super-agent brother Ari’s Hollywood money network big-time in his bid to become Chicago mayor, gobbling up five- and six-figure checks from the likes of Steven Spielberg, “West Wing” creator Aaron Sorkin, Dreamworks mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, and the Napster founder played by Justin Timberlake in “The Social Network.”

    But Emanuel’s stunning multi-million haul wasn’t limited to the bright lights of the sunset strip — it also included huge payouts from CEOs and hedge fund managers across from New York to Silicon Valley, Apple CEO Steve Jobs, Donald Trump and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin.

    Emanuel’s shop announced Thursday afternoon it had collected $11.7 million, including $1.1 million already in the former congressman’s funds, since unofficially launching his campaign in October. That total — almost identical to what Gov. Pat Quinn spent in his statewide gubernatorial race this fall — puts Emanuel in a strong position as he tries to replace long-time mayor Richard M. Daley.

    Emanuel already has spent $2.2 million on friend David Axelrod’s Chicago-based communications firm to produce commercials that remind Chicago voters that the man who lived in DC for the past year and a half is still a native son.

    All state candidates in Illinois had to submit their financial disclosures by midnight for fundraising conducted before Jan. 1. Emanuel benefited greatly from a lag time in the implementation of newly enacted campaign finance reform laws. In 2010, any individual could donate an unlimited amount to any state or municipal candidate, but now the amount is capped at $5,000.

    Trump and Jobs donated $50,000, while Spielberg forked over $75,000 and Rubin gave $10,000.

    Sorkin ponied up $10,000 and Sean Parker — the creator of Napster played by Timberlake in Sorkin’s blockbuster “The Social Network” — donated $100,000. Record executive Geffen also gave $100,000. Katzenberg wrote a check for $25,000.

    A POLITICO review of financial disclosure documents posted on the Illinois Board of Elections website late Thursday night reveals that nearly two dozen donors cut one-time six-figure checks for Emanuel before 2011.

    The high-ticket contributors ranged from a “homemaker” in Winnetka, a neighboring suburb to where Emanuel much of his adolescence, to Hollywood agent John Fogelman — who works for the agency where Emanuel’s brother Ari is CEO.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47924.html#ixzz1BjFaAGPO

  132. Good news about the Ogre from Messnews! Have they replaced Gibbs? You don’t think they’d put the Ogre there do you??

  133. Why are these people giving such huge amounts for Emanuel to be mayor of Chicago. Is this the ace in the hole to get Obama re-elected. Control votes in Chicago and Illinois?

  134. BCL,
    Yes Hu was in Chicago…seeing the mayor! That was truly amazing!

    Friday’s are always amazing with the fraud in the WH!

  135. Why is our clueless media not questioning why the prez of China would stop in chicago. I didn’t hear one of them discuss or question this.

  136. So, with Olberman gone, what does this really mean. Will msnbc and nbc be less obama-obsessed now? Less women-politician haters?

  137. Maybe Ed Schultz will get Olbermann’s time slot. That’s like no change at all. They both yell and scream and irritate everyone.

  138. Mrs. S says:
    My prediction is… no matter what strategy he tries, he will fail.

    ***************************************

    Mrs. S…sorry I don’t really get the differences or false assumptions in what either of us is saying…I was making a broad statement about the MSM and the onset of the re-election already starting and underway…you seemed to agree and concur, mentioning the current pumped up polls, etc…as far as leaving it to Bill and Hill, that assumes they will be in the race…I honestly cannot see Hillary challenging O. Hillary would have to be drafted, or O drop out, something that creates an opening for her, but there is no way she is going to challenge him in a primary…

    …so that leaves someone else…from either the dems or the repubs…someone is going to have to run against the O/Chicago machine…we know their tactics, we know the media, and we can expect more of the same and beyond…

    I am saying we have to be able to counterpunch these tactics…because they are going to be formidable…let’s not kid ourselves…

    we are hoping for the same outcome…it is how we are going to get there and with who that is up in the air…

  139. also, let me go on record so there is absolutely no confusion…from this blog to Hillary and Bill’s ears…I, we, are here in a heartbeat for Hillary if she gets in the race…my heart would start beating so fast if Hillary would run…that would be the ultimate dream come true…however right now, I am trying to live today’s reality…and think pragmatically and creatively in terms of how to battle the Chicago thugs…how can we beat them at their own game…or find a new winning one of our own…

  140. Its Freaky Friday alright! Ogreman getting canned and reading a fable that alludes that he might know too much….Oprah is telling a secret on Monday that shook her to the core….Immelt is Obama chief of looking for jobs…when will this all end???

    I think it was easier when GWB was Potus, at least we didn’t see any shocking news ever other Friday…like mysterious deaths, mob being arrested, Alex flying off to Argentina…how much can a person take…its a WEIRD time!

  141. To me, the better strategy is to note the charges in passing, acknowledge that the first amendment protects even baseless slanderous charges like these when they are directed at a public figure, and then tell the public that she will leave it to them to decide whether those charges are fair, because she has more important matters to attend to that involve helping to save this country from the perils that lie ahead.

    ========================

    I thought Palin hit a good level, both in her video and in her interview with Hannity.

    In the video she zeroed in on the free speech, free rhetoric issue, defending everyone’s right to emphatic metaphorical language — and distinguishing that from direct personal libel — blood or otherwise. But she seemed to ignore/rise above the minor, more personal attacks (on the map etc).

    Then in the interview she let Hannity ask the questions about those, and just answered, again sort of from a risen-above stance that can’t quite be bothered with knowing all the details of who drew the map, who if anyone took it down, etc. I liked her saying that if it was giving people heartache then she was glad it was down. From that I got that she is too busy with real issues to focus on minor, annoying attacks.

    As for Morris suggesting Palin use Hillary’s strategy of ignore and rise above…. One, since when do we trust Morris? Two, Hillary was well known to the public before most of the attacks started; Palin was not.

    In the int

  142. Hmmmm…. it would be interesting to know if they controlled for gender. Women generally make less than men…. but I don’t know if they are more represented in public or private industry. (Although I’m sure the gender distribution would vary by the individual job) I would be interested in seeing the data by gender, and maybe a gender/job description interaction, as they relate to salary.

    ie, a female janitor may make more money in the private sector than a public janitorial position (but still less than males in either realm in same job), but a female PR mgr may make more in the public sector than in the private sector.

    I don’t know, but given that gender affects salary, it should either be controlled for, in order to get a more realistic understanding of public vs private salaries, or else it should be entered into a regression as another variable in its own right. Well, I’m not sure I said that too well, but maybe you get the gist lol

    HillaryforTexas
    January 21st, 2011 at 11:24 am
    BigCatLover, the one having a “knee jerk” reaction is you, not me. Sorry, but the data is the data, and according to the RW propaganda source known as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the difference well-documented.

    Scroll down to the bottom for a chart of various jobs and the pay difference. For instance, a PR manager in the private sector makes $88,241, and his public counterpart makes $132, 410. The differences are very real.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

  143. turndown, you might want to verify if it is STILL a PUMA blog. “My IQ is 2x yours” writes for the Confluence, and they have been very clear for a long time now that they are not PUMAs any longer. IIRC, they seem to think that all PUMAs became republicans, so don’t want to be associated with them (instead of staying with PUMA, and saying, “hey, most of us are NOT republicans!”)

  144. If Todd is having an affair, then shame on him for doing so, especially during a time that he must know he and his family’s lives are under a microscope.

    ================

    Why does anyone believe such crazy stories. Probably this is the same ‘masseuse’ who libeled Gore.

  145. moononpluto
    ——————–
    A friend of mine did the research. He was not born in this country nor in Kenya. He was borne at a home for unwed mothers on Oak Street in Vancouver under an alias. Her parents sent her there from Hawaii to have the child and give it up for adoption. After the child was born however his mother had a change of heart and refused to give it up for adoption. The child was taken away from her at birth and given back to her when she left the home. She went to Mercer Island in Seattle where she had grown up. She visited a high school friend on the Island and showed the child to the friend, seeking her approval. The friend was amazed that she had no idea how to take care of the child–change its diapers, etc. which was understandable for the reasons mentioned above. I contacted the investigative reporter for ABC News, Brian Ross. At that point, I mistakenly assumed that they were a legitimate news organization. I put him on the phone with my friend who laid out names dates and places. All he was interested in was seeing a birth certificate. Our suspicion was that when the mother went back to Hawaii, she sought public assistance and applied for a certificate retroactively. But there was not certificate of live birth in Hawaii. Why did the Hawaiian officials not come clean. Simple. It would be good for Hawaii if he became president. So they covered it up. Just like the Republicans did with Bush. My neighbor was the former mayor of Juneau. He had a friend who was the Mayor of Wasilla prior to Sarah. She provided room and board to W, who was sent to Alaska by his father as sort of a remittance man. He had a job and would skip work constantly. She would come home and find him slouched in front of the television set eating popcorn and watching cartoons. She went to Murkowski’s father Frank and other prominent public officials and said we cannot let this man become president. She was told to keep her mouth shut he would be good for Alaska. So she did, except for my friend. Then as now, the insiders know the truth. But they refuse to disclose it and so like the tree that falls in the forest with no one around, it makes no noise.

  146. Here’s a debunking of the nasty map someone put out with Palin’s graphics and some real assassinationsl

    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/to-tell-the-truth/
    This graphic was allegedly presented in an effort to “historicize” Sarah Palin’s crosshair map and “put political assassinations into context.”
    But when you look at the breakdown above, out of sixteen incidents (Moscone and Milk were one incident and Fromme and Moore two separate and unrelated events) only eight of them were politically motivated. Of the eight, four were committed by leftists, one had nothing to do with domestic politics and another was part of the Civil War. Only two (three if you count Lincoln) were motivated by right-wing politics.

  147. Bipolar Disorder

    Bipolar disorder is a lifelong condition that can affect both how you feel and how you act. It is a mood disorder thought to be caused by chemical imbalances in the brain that can result in extreme swings in mood—from manic highs to depressive lows. These imbalances are believed to lead to the symptoms that you experience with bipolar disorder. To be diagnosed with bipolar disorder, you must have experienced a high period (mania or hypomania). Bipolar mania is described as an “extreme high,” or feeling unusually great. The good news is that there are clinically proven bipolar disorder treatment options available that may help.

  148. Gingrich: ‘I am Running for President’

    Ending months of speculation, Newt Gingrich has told close friends and prominent Republicans in the state of Georgia that he will run for President in 2012. And even though 2011 has just begun, Gingrich is not waiting to put political wheels in motion. Gingrich has already contacted several prominent Republicans in an effort to begin his campaign. Amongst those likely to aid Gingrich in the near-future are Nathan Deal, the governor of Georgia, and Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson

  149. The article was this: by Dana Milbank and subsequent tweets from WAPO encouraging their readers to refrain from news of Palin. Is this the most juvenile act or what?

    I’m declaring February a Palin-free month. Join me!

  150. pm317
    January 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Now if Dana Milbank would also declare the same month a Barack Obama free month, the country could start to make up their own minds about the candidates. Wouldn’t that be a nice change?

  151. wbboei
    January 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 am
    Very interesting. Are you quoting a friend of yours or quoting someone else with a friend who did the research? Any records in Vancouver that could be located?

  152. HillaryforTexas
    January 22nd, 2011 at 12:59 am
    ————————-

    Oh, my.. what the hell is going on in those other Hillary blogs? I just read the Confluence. I stopped commenting there (or even reading) long ago when RD said a couple of disparaging things about Indian scientists in her posts. Occasionally I have gone back — I do like her writing style. I never liked the comment police in that and other blogs. At NQ they never did any policing and this blog goes on without any policing. I never understood how or why they want to restrain their commenters. If you don’t want to open up yourself to other POV turn off the comments. And not everybody is as well read or informed but still want to be part of a community. If they want to be exclusive and elitist they should have an entrance policy in huge letters — comment only if you are xyz. You take your readers in the direction you want to with your writing and if you think they are not well informed, you educate them. Lashing at commenters is poor form.

  153. Wbboei,
    Bipolar is completely different that a person with a chemical imbalance. Bipolar is the new term for the old term Manic Depressive. Now that might be caused by extreme chemical imbalances or just plain ole crazy, buy there is a difference in the two.
    The two terms Bipolar aka manic depressive is treated completely different than those that suffer with a mere chemical imbalance.
    Bipolar is a serious mental illness….a chemical imbalance is very small mood swings or light depression. Many bipolar folks are so bad they are unable to work.

  154. pm317, the Confluence has some good writers (well, only two are left now), and good commenters. But the blog owner has decided to narrow her focus, and doesn’t want wide-ranging discussion distracting from the narrative she wants to present.

    It’s her blog, that’s her right. If that’s what she wants to do, then go for it. Me, I like variety. I’m not afraid that if I argue with someone to the right of me, or even agree with them on a point or two, I’m going to get somehow magically sucked into being a Palin/Beck/Rush zombie. Nor am I going to turn into a raving radical communist if I seriously entertain and argue and/or agree with the ideas of my much more far-left friends.

    I’m all for general civility in the sense of not allowing the discussion to turn into a personally insulting free-for-all. But I don’t understand that idea that people have to be “protected” from hearing things they disagree with. Filters on information, whether its the right or the left demanding those filters be in place, give me the heebie jeebies. I have a brain of my own, thanks, and I can use it to filter for myself. I’ll pretty much discuss anything with anybody, and if someone has a true point, I can admit that without having great angst that I’ve somehow “endorsed” or “forwarded” their whole agenda. People need to grow the fuck up and stop assuming other people are sheep to be led.

  155. Fucking hilarious.

    It gets better. Just when Abercrombie figured out there is no birth certificate he shuts down the investigation.

    APNewsBreak: Hawaii won’t release Obama birth info

    HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_BIRTH_CERTIFICATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-01-21-22-05-34

    …………………..

    In other words even he could’nt find it.

  156. HillaryforTexas
    January 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am

    “It’s her blog, that’s her right. If that’s what she wants to do, then go for it.”

    “But I don’t understand that idea that people have to be “protected” from hearing things they disagree with.”
    ————–

    Absolutely. But they miss out on a larger readership and the power to influence people. Policing and ‘protection’ as you call it are what I object to as a strategy for a blog owner. But, hey it is not my blog.

  157. pm317, in my discussions/arguments online, and sifting available information from many sources, the thing I am looking for is “Is this true?” That’s my primary question. The question “Does this fit my preferred narrative?” doesn’t even usually enter my mind. It’s sort of a revelation to me that the question of narrative is the FIRST and deciding and even only one for many. It’s just so foreign a concept to me.

  158. Moon,
    I can’t believe he spouted off his mouth without conferring with Potus on the BC. Maybe BO is a robot??

    Did you all see the hair thing on Drudge??? Does he or doesn’t he? LOL! He’s skin even looked darker and suntanned….that’s makeup for heaven’s sake!

    Why was Hu visiting a school in Illinois…is our govt. selling our school’s to the Chinese now? Now wonder Hillary wants to retire…things are going to get real bad!

  159. Very interesting. Are you quoting a friend of yours or quoting someone else with a friend who did the research? Any records in Vancouver that could be located?
    ——————————–
    My friend did the research herself. She is very well qualified to do this. At one point, I was prepared to go up to Canada and meet with a Canadian lawyer I know to see if we could find the Jane Doe records. But even if you went to the time expense and effort if big media is unwilling to run with it, or labels you as a crack pot, what is the use. It is also interesting that he resigned from the Illinois Bar after he answered the question have you ever had any other name, and he said no. In fact, for the early party of his life he was Barry Soreto. Larry Johnson was trying to prove that Bambi was born in Kenya, and his grandmother has so stated. However that does not appear to be the case. In fairness there was an announcement in the newspaper in Hawaii of his birth and many have taken that as a substitute for a live birth certificate, but again that is hearsay and the shoddy way things are run in those days in Hawaii, I would not take that as conclusive.

  160. Geez wbboei,

    You ruined my morning…lol… Vancouver? The province next to mine? Do you know how expensive it is going to be to call in pest control for the whole city? And since I am only one province over? Do we need to do a complete clean up here as well? 🙂

  161. Part of the rationale was that Hawaii was very conservative in those days, his mother was a bank officer, and the birth of a multi racial child out of wedlock would have been an embarrassment to the mother and could have had an adverse effect on her job which was the main source of family income. That is why she was sent outside Hawaii to another country to have the baby. This appears to have been a decision between mother and daughter. Her father was something of a libertine, a friend of avowed communists Franklin Marshall Davis who was a person of interest to the House of Unamerican Activities committee. Her father was probably comatose when the decision was made since he was no stranger to controlled substances.

  162. Vancouver? The province next to mine? Do you know how expensive it is going to be to call in pest control for the whole city? And since I am only one province over? Do we need to do a complete clean up here as well?
    ——————————
    And why not? They started the clean-up street in Halifax Street which was once regarded as a cesspool of a different kind. Last time I was up there the Mounties had much of the traffic shut down. But still I would not venture down that street, or the London east end during the heyday of Jack the Ripper or South Bronx at midnight–unless I had a death wish and Jack Kovorkian was otherwise detained. If you know your geography then you know Halifax is nowhere near the place on the home for unwed mothers on Oak Street.

  163. JanH
    January 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Geez wbboei,

    You ruined my morning…lol… Vancouver? The province next to mine? Do you know how expensive it is going to be to call in pest control for the whole city? And since I am only one province over? Do we need to do a complete clean up here as well?

    _________

    JanH
    That would make him one of us – a Canadian. What a horrid thought.

  164. I guess no one has an answer for why Hu was visiting a high school in Illinois. Well I have my opinion, but you know I’m biased! LOL!

  165. Didn’t we have some kind of a Chinese General tour some of our military bases last year?? Sure seems the Chinese have an open door to America these days??

  166. Hey the Chinese own America hook line and sinker these days, i guess you could call the WH state dinner, a landlord inspection.

  167. Exactly, HillaryforTexas. Which is why you’ve always been one of my fave commenters, from when we all hung out together during the ’08 primaries, to the present. You don’t bullshit anybody nor take any. And your occasional rants are outstanding and not to be missed.

    pm317 @ 11:09, totally agree. Totalitarian Comment Police are just as insufferable to read while lurking as it is to bother to interact with them. Every 3 months or so I will break down and check on the current Confluence threads to see where their heads are at, a couple threads would cure me all over again. Case in point: a few weeks back a general discussion was going on and the blog owner herself mentioned that Obama might have to “lawyer up” soon (health care? or something). I threw my hands in the air and yelled at my monitor “where in the FUCK have YOU people been? Obama has been LAWYERED UP out of his goddamned wazoo six ways to Sunday over his huge Ineligibility Problem since circa Aug 21,2008 with more lawyers being added by the week!”

    If they weren’t so busy ridiculing and banning what they call the birthers they might realize a whole world of Motives are completely missing to them when it comes to Obama, scores of his hired law firms/attornies, and the related DOJ machinations. That is deliberate willful ignorance, while they worry about their *image* on a free WordPress blog. Spare me. And incomplete analysis on any topics they try to cover considering they won’t pay attention and therefore can’t truly ‘connect the dots’. It doesn’t bother me they don’t want to mention it in actual posts, but to shut down or ban well informed regulars that do want to bring it up (especially when thousands of other blogs are talking about it) drives me away from control freaks. I find it very ironic they love to call out FDL & all the lefty Blozo Boyz with I Told You So’s, seeing how they have a healthy dose of that coming their way too. Same difference.

  168. Moon,
    I agree…GWB and Obama sold us to them. I imagine they are going to do away with the public school system and go with some sort of vouchers system and the Chinese will take over the schools. Same with the roads….they just better not take over our hospital systems! I know we are in debt to them thanks to GWB who absolutely loves them as much as he loves the Saudi’s.

  169. Personally, I don’t know how anyone could believe that Potus was “made in America”. No way Jose. He was born somewhere else and I personally don’t believe the story that he was Ann’s son either. We have NO idea who he is….he even screws up his children’s name.

    I don’t know if all of you saw his speech on JFK, but he went real slow so he wouldn’t screw up historical facts regarding his administration and when the “bay of pigs” took place…it was quiet telling…he doesn’t know American history! That’s cause he wasn’t here! Granted he was 2 went JFK died, but my God, it was in the news daily for two decades after the assassination. The Warren Commission went on and on and on.

  170. What really scares me is that it seems to make NO difference to the fools in DC or in the media! I don’t think we are the “USA” anymore!

  171. moononpluto
    January 22nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Fucking hilarious.

    It gets better. Just when Abercrombie figured out there is no birth certificate he shuts down the investigation.

    APNewsBreak: Hawaii won’t release Obama birth info

    HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.
    ———–

    I hope the Rethugs are paying attention to this and do a serious investigation.

    Forget the fake ‘repeal’, quit wasting time pretending to do something that is only drama for the 2012 election.

  172. wbboei, I too would like to hear what this name is that your friend found. Fuck the media, WE want to know. You never know what an old clue will lead to. I recall reports she may have used “Steve Dunham” for instance. There was a fairly recent FOIA result of his mother’s partial passport records that revealed he went by the name Soebarkah too, but that was during his later Indonesian stint.

    When it comes to that lying sack of crap Abercrombie and the latest shitstorm that he’s thankfully riled up, I need to dig into some old research files of mine. Being that I’m Native American I more than connected a few dots with all the same names connected to Obama popping up over and over again between the longtime stealth campaign to try to change the Constitutional requirements for Prez, the Hawaii campaign for “Native” federal recognition like our tribes have, the Akaka bill and HI 50th, similar congressional committees that cover these issues (that lead all the way up the Dept of Interior), Obama putting on his website he’s a “native” but no mention of natural born Citizen, his NA Crow *adoption*, and tons more. I published this info once, on a now defunct and erased blog. Time to dust it off and publish it here. Abercrombie has been in the thick of it all along, for years now.

  173. wbboei,

    The bank employee was Obama’s grandmother, not his mother. His mother, Ann, was her daughter, and was a student.

    The story is that Ann lived with her parents in Honolulu at the time of the birth. I’ve seen one claim that a neighbor remembers them being there constantly before and after the birth, no time to be going elsehwere to hide any scandal.

  174. andyp
    January 22nd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    ——————
    It is a far far better thing we do…sigh…

    If it meant that he could not be potus, I guess…um…er…we could take him as a Canadian…cough…cough…cough…

  175. and todays WTF article is…..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/22/AR2011012202217.html

    Officials fear bath salts are growing drug problem

    FULTON, Miss. — When Neil Brown got high on bath salts, he took his skinning knife and slit his face and stomach repeatedly. Brown survived, but authorities say others haven’t been so lucky after snorting, injecting or smoking powders with such innocuous-sounding names as Ivory Snow, Red Dove and Vanilla Sky.

    Some say the effects of the powders are as powerful as abusing methamphetamine. Increasingly, law enforcement agents and poison control centers say the bath salts with complex chemical names are an emerging menace in several U.S. states where authorities talk of banning their sale.

    From the Deep South to California, emergency calls are being reported over exposure to the stimulants the powders often contain: mephedrone and methylenedioxypyrovalerone, also known as MDPV.

    Sold under such names as Ivory Wave, Bliss, White Lightning and Hurricane Charlie, the chemicals can cause hallucinations, paranoia, rapid heart rates and suicidal thoughts, authorities say. The chemicals are in bath salts and even plant foods that are sold legally at convenience stores and on the Internet. However, they aren’t necessarily being used for the purposes on the label.

    ………………………………………..

    Is there anything innocent left people will not try and get their asses high on.

  176. moon, the people snorting bath salts are stupid, but banning them from being sold is even stupider. You can’t ban everything that some idiot will abuse. You may as well wrap us all in straitjackets and helmets to “protect” the morons among us, because morons will always find a way to misuse something.

    If they want to fry their brains, have at it. Evolution at work, as far as I’m concerned. Leave the rest of us alone to take our nice hot bath with whatever salts we want.

  177. HillaryforTexas
    January 22nd, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    moon, the people snorting bath salts are stupid, but banning them from being sold is even stupider. You can’t ban everything that some idiot will abuse.
    __________________

    On the addiction channel, some women was sddicted to eating detergent. She even had a favorite. Tide- I think.

  178. Being that I’m Native American
    —————————
    Ironically, my friend is an elder in the Chippewa tribe. She is not only brilliant, but she has that gift of being able to prophesize what will happen. A month before the oil spill she had a dream in which she saw Obama swimming in a black ocean. One time I mentioned to her husband who has a PHD and 3 masters in the hard sciences that she was brilliant. He laughed and said “you think?”. By the way I was not aware of the LaRouche research at RENSCE. He does a tremendous job of research.

  179. Shez ZK
    January 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Yes, welcome here-

    Your info sounds interesting- please do post it when you can.

  180. Re TC I got flashbacks to TM. Remember “I’m at war with my readers.”

    Nice to see some energy stirring anyway.

  181. There was even that comment by Bill from Africa that anyone should be entitled to be president as long as they meet the eligibility requirements–or words to that effect. Four hundred years ago, the English poet John Milton said that truth comes like a bastard into the world bringing ill fame to him who wrought it. And so it is here. The elites have suppressed this information, because if the truth came out too many important people would look foolish for supporting him. It is one thing to be stupid, and quite another to let the world see it, when you are part of the elite. It just isn’t done. But it is like any kind of lie, it leads to further lies and eventually the negation of ethical standards. And that is why I very much doubt this will lead anywhere, notwithstanding the fact that states are passing legislation to require candidates to present a birth certificate before they will certify a candidate.

  182. Being that I’m Native American
    ———————–
    I thought I said that: his mothers mother which would be his grandmother. If I was not clear I apologize. Remember when she was dying he would not let anyone close to her. I think that was because she knew the truth about the circumstances of his birth from her daughter.

  183. confloyd:

    “Bipolar is completely different that a person with a chemical imbalance. Bipolar is the new term for the old term Manic Depressive… Bipolar aka manic depressive is treated completely different than those that suffer with a mere chemical imbalance.
    Bipolar is a serious mental illness….a chemical imbalance is very small mood swings or light depression. Many bipolar folks are so bad they are unable to work.”
    ********

    Sounds like you know something about these problems, so maybe you can answer my questions.

    I’ve been diagnosed twice as bipolar and, because I’ve known 3 manic depressives in my life, I told the psychiatrist flatly No, that can’t be it. I say that because I have no depressive state and the supposed “manic” phase is just a matter of wildly daydreaming all the time, so that I can’t concentrate or work.

    The psychiatrist in Florida put me on a regimen that induced a real year-long depression, which is very disagreeable and I never want to go through again. But there is a drug called Tercian that “closes the mind”, ie stops me from dreaming wildly, and lets me live a normal life. Without this medication, I would fall into this supposed “manic” phase after about 2-3 months.

    Would you say I have simply a “chemical imbalance”? And if so, why do doctors refuse to see that, and not diagnose me as this “bipolar” thing?

  184. The other thing that weighed heavily on the minds of the elites was the threat by black leaders to riot–as we saw in Watts, Newark, Detroit, in the 1960s and Los Angeles in the 1980s. Perhaps the most distinguished one was the former Governor of Virginia Doug Wilder. Others included Jessee Jackson III, Reverend Al Sharpton, among others. I suspect Brazille was saying the same thing privately. Finally, if he was not the nominee, the sociopathic press would have destroyed whoever the winner was if it was not him. These groups held a knife to the country’s throat in 2008. And those risks weighed equally on the minds of the elites, especially those who did not support him within their ranks.

  185. Tarpley volleys a few insights into the Olberman firing- resonates as a good possibility…
    _____________________

    Olbermann Ouster: Immelt Helps Obama with his Left Flank on the Eve of a Monstrous State of the Union to Address

    Webster G. Tarpley
    TARPLEY.net
    January 22, 2011

    Last night, Keith Olbermann, the host of MSNBC’s flagship and top-rated Countdown program, abruptly told his viewers that he had been fired by the network. On the same day, Jeffrey Immelt, the top honcho of General Electric, was hobnobbing with Obama at a GE plant in Schenectady, New York – a plant which has received subsidies from the Obama regime. Government financial help for GE has not gone mainly to the firm’s remaining industrial manufacturing divisions, but rather– and in boxcar numbers –to GE Capital, long notorious as a derivatives hedge fund in drag.

    Immelt, a well-known asset-stripper and runaway shop devotee, has also just been appointed as the boss of Obama’s new White House Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which in turn is part of Obama’s sharp right turn towards austerity, tax cuts for the rich, and a new assault on the Social Security-Medicare-Medicaid-jobless insurance complex.

    In this regard, Wall Street puppet Obama is reputed to be preparing new historical crimes against the American people, and new stabs in the back for his own base. This goes together with Obama’s naming of JP Morgan banker William Daley, an advocate of free trade sellouts, as White House chief of staff, and the new prominence of Goldman Sachs associate and derivatives deregulator Gene Sperling as the successor to Larry Summers as economics czar.

    During the 2007-2008 campaign, Olbermann had thoroughly degraded himself by acting the role of a media toady to the new Messiah, and the implacable defamer of Obama’s rivals. But, over the last few months, Olbermann had launched some critical sallies against the Anointed One. Olbermann was increasingly critical and disillusioned about the administration. He was especially indignant about Obama’s December sellout on the Bush tax cuts for the rich, pointing out Obama’s dangerous erosion of the integrity of Social Security, and the cynical betrayal of the 99ers, the long-term jobless.

    So put two and two together: did Immelt fire Olbermann as a gesture to please Obama by silencing a possible critic of the White House’s stunning rightward lunge? This makes much more sense than the competing explanation, which is that Olbermann was driven out by Comcast, which is buying NBC Universal from GE. MSNBC is still under GE control, and will be for weeks or months.

    Olbermann was still far from breaking with Obama, or for calling for a Democrat to challenge the tenant of the White House in the primaries, or for demanding that Obama be dumped from the Democratic ticket. Even so, with a raft of further capitulations to reactionary demands in the offing for next week’s State of the Union, Olbermann’s response on any given day was unpredictable. The Countdown host was unquestionably a loose cannon, apt to go off the reservation at any moment by embarrassing the Messiah with barbed Special Comments that hit home with the liberal Democratic base.

    For Obama, an obvious part of dropping the mask of hope and change for the second term, revealing the hideous bankers’ stooge underneath, is the need to protect his left flank by suppressing likely political attacks from that quarter. Quite apart from anything Olbermann has done or not done, his ouster is designed to chill any anti-Obama invective that might come from the left-liberal complex of MSNBC-Huffington and their acolytes. Obama is reminding the fatuous left libs that he is after all a brutal thug in his own right, and can be his own Rahm Emmanuel.

    The big MSNBC beneficiary of Olbermann’s sacking is Lawrence O’Donnell, a former congressional aid who regards Capitol Hill as a serious place deserving of respect, rather than a congeries of thieves and cretins, and whose fealty to Obama was shown by his support for the administration’s sellout on the Bush tax cuts, when he was the only MSNBC prime time host to fully back Obama. The philistine Ed Shultz pretends to represent labor, but he will always roll over for Barky, and the same goes for the shrill and unstable Chris Matthews, who still gets that thrill in his leg when he views the Messiah. Rachel Maddow may now find that, without Olbermann’s million-strong audience already tuned in, her own program is not viable. All of these figures can see that, if Immelt is willing to can the biggest moneymaker and most influential figure on the network, all of them are expendable and had better toe the line and watch out. The result is a new example of how Obama’s catastrophic Wall Street presidency is destroying progressive causes in this country for the decades ahead, just as Carter did. The only answer is an immediate primary challenge to Obama, with the intent of dumping Obama in 2012.

  186. I kind of smile when I see this handle ‘myiq2xu’ — he will forever have to explain to his readers, ‘no, no I am not talking about you — I am only talking about the people I don’t agree with..’

  187. They keep harping on about Huckabee and Romney and Palin and others….I still feel in my gut the GOP 2012 nominee is going to come out of the blue. I think the people are looking for something different.

  188. Admin: please embed when you have a moment.

    Bill’s eulogy today for Sargent Shriver:

    h… w… msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/?vp=41208568?#41208568

  189. President Hu meets former U.S. President Bill Clinton on bilateral ties

    WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (Xinhua) — A good Sino-U.S. relationship benefits not only China and the United States but the Asia-Pacific region and the world at large as well, Chinese President Hu Jintao said during his meeting with former U.S. President Bill Clinton here Wednesday.

    Hu expressed his appreciation for Clinton’s contributions to the development of Chinese-American relations.

    He said that since the establishment of diplomatic ties between the two countries more than 30 years ago, bilateral relations as a whole have been continuously advanced despite some hardships.

    Bilateral cooperation in various fields has also been constantly expanded, Hu said, not only bringing substantial benefits to the peoples of the two countries, but also contributing to world peace and development.

    The Chinese president said that a good Sino-U.S. relationship is in accordance with the fundamental benefits of the two countries and their people. A good relationship, Hu said, also is beneficial to the peace, stability and prosperity of the Asia Pacific region and the world at large.

    The Chinese president said that currently China and the United States share more and more common interests. He urged the two countries to strengthen their political mutual trust, boost economic cooperation, promote people-to-people contacts, and reinforce communications and coordination on international issues.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/20/c_13700171.htm

  190. Mitt Romney easily wins New Hampshire Republican poll

    DERRY, New Hampshire (Reuters) – Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney easily won a poll of several hundred Republican delegates Saturday about whom they would choose to take on Democrat Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election.

    The poll was held at the New Hampshire Republican State Committee’s annual meeting in Derry, by television station WMUR-TV and ABC News, as a way of finding out which potential candidates were generating an early buzz.

    Also at the meeting, conservative Tea Party activist Jack Kimball beat Juliana Bergeron to be New Hampshire’s new state Republican Party chairman — an outcome that could influence presidential campaigning in the state.

    Romney won 35 percent of the poll, trouncing Texas Congressman Ron Paul, with 11 percent, former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, with 8 percent, and 2008 vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who took 7 percent.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110122/ts_nm/us_new_hampshire_politics_1

  191. Mrs. Smith,

    He speaks from the heart. His eulogy was so personal and endearing. It’s like night and day from obama’s cold efforts on sad occasions such as this one.

    And why wasn’t Obama there?

  192. JANUARY 20, 2011

    Celebration for Clinton’s post-presidency decade .

    NEW YORK — The Clinton Foundation is launching a year-long celebration — of former President Bill Clinton and his post-presidential life.

    The Foundation announced the “Decade of Difference” campaign on Thursday. It will focus on the work Clinton has done since leaving office in 2001 in areas like global health, climate and energy, and philanthropy.

    The Foundation said the campaign would make use of its website as well as social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/APa105f8afba774ec481e29026f6bc6ac8.html

  193. ABC Slates Barbara Walters Heart Surgery Special

    By Alex Weprin on January 21, 2011

    ABC has scheduled a new primetime Barbara Walters special focusing on people that have undergone heart surgery.”A Barbara Walters Special: A Matter of Life and Death” will air Friday, February 4 at 10 PM and will feature interviews with former President Bill Clinton, Robin Williams, Charlie Rose and Regis Philbin. It also features an interview with late night host David Letterman, who rarely sits down with interviewers.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/abc-slates-barbara-walters-heart-surgery-special_b49507

  194. “Mitt Romney easily wins New Hampshire Republican poll”

    Doesn’t surprise me, establishment has their pick decided.

    Frankly, in my mind, if Hillary is not the dem. nominee in ’12, I am voting for any repub, I dont care who it is, Waffles will ruin this country in his second term, even more so than he has done so now just in 2 years.
    Never thought I would see a president that makes Bush look pretty competent, but here we are.

  195. The birth certificate under LaRouche’s article is a fraud. It says Province of Ontario and says he was born in BC. I have lived in Ontario for 40 years and was born in Prince Edward Island. I had to (and would still have to) get my birth certificate from Prince Edward Island.

  196. How the Hell did I miss this post by wbb?

    Running back up to see what is going on…

    ——

    wbboei
    January 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 am

    moononpluto
    ——————–
    A friend of mine did the research. He was not born in this country nor in Kenya. He was borne at a home for unwed mothers on Oak Street in Vancouver under an alias.

  197. Tim, they will not run Romney, there is no way they could argue Obamacare with Romney as nominee, that one is dead as a duck.

  198. moononpluto
    January 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    moon — do you think so? I don’t understand how the repub primaries work, although seeing what happened in ’08, I can say at least they seem to be more democratic than the so-called “democratic” party primaries.

    The thing with romneycare, I know some people from MA and they told me Romney actually vetoed RomenyCare, but the MA legislature then overrode that veto(with Teddy’s backing), so he was forced to sign it into law. If this is true, then I don’t think people will hold it against Romney.

    Frankly, I don’t care who, I am not voting for Waffles and will vote for anyone who opposes this idiot, doesn’t matter to me who is the repub candidate, I would like Palin, but as much as they say oh the Lame media will eviserate her, well what have they been doing for the last 2 years, also if its not Palin, then they will do the same to Romney, call him a racist, a rich racist, a rich white racist, and so on, they (the demonrats and their footsoldiers in the lame media) will wage war on any repub candidate, doesn’t matter who it is.

    so if no Hillary as the pres. nominee of the undemocratic party in ’12, then voting for any repub candidate.

  199. Having said above that the Birth Certificate is not real, I do think that wbboei’s idea has a truthful ring to it. He very well could have been born in BC.

  200. and it starts…

    former ACORN head to head up Waffles ’12 campaign. This Waffles certainly is interested in jobs, his own!!

    Wonder how many votes they will be able to steal this time.

  201. pm317

    I kind of smile when I see this handle ‘myiq2xu’ — he will forever have to explain to his readers, ‘no, no I am not talking about you — I am only talking about the people I don’t agree with..’

    ————
    I always disliked this egotistic handle so much, I would skip most of his posts. I thought, anyone that has to name himself more intelligent than others, has a real complex I don’t want to deal with.

    But that’s me…

  202. Shadowfax, I think myiq’s handle started as an inside joke with a friend, then it stuck, and by then everyone knew him by that name anyway. I myself have a weird email address, because at the time I made it I didn’t think I’d have it forever – but for various reasons it worked out that way.

  203. Having said above that the Birth Certificate is not real, I do think that wbboei’s idea has a truthful ring to it. He very well could have been born in BC.

    ================

    That’s more believable than Kenya.

  204. JanH
    January 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    Mrs. Smith,

    He speaks from the heart. His eulogy was so personal and endearing. It’s like night and day from obama’s cold efforts on sad occasions such as this one.

    And why wasn’t Obama there?
    ________________

    I sort of heard ***Obama and VP Biden. Must have said..Ms Obama. I didn’t realize BO wasn’t there. Maybe still cavorting around the country with Imelt or pitching a few hoops at the WH.
    _______________

    Seeing we are getting posters over from TC. I have to ask, is the original Deaniac blogger at ‘Not Your Sweetie’ still the same woman? Where’s Murphy?

  205. Thanks for the heads up on myiq2xu’s new site. His were the posts I went to TC for. I had liked Dak’s posting too although I disagreed on the Ground Zero mosque issue with her. I liked her economic slant and keeping the blog up-to-date on the Gulf Coast fiasco which is still a mess.

    The owner of the blog was starting to foam at the mouth each time Palin’s name was mentioned and it was becoming too irrational for me. But then I mostly lurked with only a few comments.

  206. pm, I warned crawdad that he might get a big influx of the “homeless” after he put up my facebook post, but he was okay with that. I think he’s a little overwhelmed right now – LOL!

  207. pm, I warned crawdad that he might get a big influx of the “homeless” after he put up my facebook post, but he was okay with that. I think he’s a little overwhelmed right now – LOL!

  208. H4T, your friend should beg you to write posts for him. He will attract more traffic than with the myiq guy and I would visit his blog to read you. TC’s loss is his gain. I have a friend in India who has a nice blog but a month ago he got into this mood, ‘oh who the hell cares what I think or write’ and of course we all jumped on him. So a blogwriter without readers, meh.. not sure why blogwriters would pick a fight with their writers/readers and then air all that dirty laundry. It is a lonely feeling to write something and then have no one to read it.

  209. That’s cool, Shadowfax. I don’t insist that all my friends like all my other friends, or get pissy if they like people that I don’t. I think people who do that are very 7th-grade.

    😀

  210. Where’s Murphy?

    I can’t really answer for Murphy, but she is around, just doesn’t blog on the pac much any more…why?

    I have no idea, but she does blog around on other sites too.

  211. HillaryforTexas
    January 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    That’s cool, Shadowfax. I don’t insist that all my friends like all my other friends, or get pissy if they like people that I don’t. I think people who do that are very 7th-grade.
    —–
    Yup, I agree.
    I don’t always agree with anyone, and I don’t expect others will agree with me either.
    I always liked Riverdaughter, met her in Denver and yet, I don’t always agree with her on everything.

    😆

  212. Shadowfax
    January 22nd, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Thanks, shadow- Last time I read of there, she was in training to be a politician. I might be wrong on remembering, but that thought is what sticks in my mind.

  213. Cripes, it’s supposed to be -3 tonight. Starting to feel like we live in Alaska. I don’t ever remember it being this COLD!

  214. Mrs. Smith

    Thanks, shadow- Last time I read of there, she was in training to be a politician. I might be wrong on remembering, but that thought is what sticks in my mind.
    ——-
    Yes, Murphy was taking a class on running for office, that was awhile back, maybe a year ago. She has blogged and posted since then, but not often. Maybe burnout with a family? Not sure but I miss her.

  215. JanH

    State of the Union set for next Thursday. I think I’ll read the dictionary instead.

    —–
    Yea, the phone book is an option unless we play bingo again.
    When we played bingo the other night, it was the FIRST complete speech I have ever listened to by BarryBoy. It was a memorial speech, so I had a different reason for listening in the first place.

  216. crazy horse

    Breaking news. Fox hires Keefe.
    =========

    I almost lost it until I looked at the link.
    Good one!

  217. Speaking of Keefe:

    …Though neither side was talking Saturday about the events that led Olbermann to announce his departure on his show Friday night, the split appeared to have been long in the making – weeks certainly, and perhaps months, given his suspension in November for campaign contributions that violated company policy.

    Olbermann and MSNBC are operating under an exit agreement, the product of lengthy negotiations, that limits each side from commenting publicly, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. The agreement also ties Olbermann to a “non-compete” provision that will prevent him from appearing on a competing TV network for an undisclosed period.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/22/AR2011012204006.html

  218. Ha! I was a little shocked seeing the note Olberman had been hired by FOX- I gave little ‘huh’ to myself before accessing the link. I thought I had read his termination agreement would be keeping him off the air until sometime in the fall. Then again, forever would be too soon.

    I think we’re all agreed the Sheriff in Tuscon needs a second look for spouting off before having all the facts.
    _____________________________

    Tuscon Sheriff faces recall bid

    Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has never lost an election, but that was before his remarks assigning blame for the deadly Tucson, Ariz., shooting to political “vitriol” and calling Arizona “a mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

    Now it’s Sheriff Dupnik who finds himself on the public-opinion hot seat. A group opposed to illegal immigration has begun an effort to recall the sheriff in a special election. Meanwhile, a Pima County tea party group is planning on holding a “Dump Dupnik” rally next week outside his office.

    “I haven’t been a fan of Dupnik’s for a long time, but this really was the straw that broke the camel’s back,” said Tom Rompel, co-owner of Black Weapons Armory in Tucson. “He’s law enforcement. We expect ‘the facts, ma’am,’ not his opinion. He leans far left, always has, and frankly, people have had enough.”

    Not that the sheriff should worry about turning in his badge just yet. Sheriff Dupnik has won election eight times, and he’s a Democrat in a Democrat-majority county. While some constituents were appalled by his comments, others have applauded his forthright indictment of the state’s political climate.

    Witness the “Clarence Dupnik is my Hero” page on Facebook, which so far has 9,582 who “like this.”

    Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, heretofore outspoken on the Tucson shootings, said Wednesday he would have no further comment on the incident. (Associated Press)”He is not afraid to call the bullies out on their part in this mess. Civility without hate speech is our mission!” says the page in its description paragraph.

    Sheriff Dupnik’s comments came about an hour after the Jan. 8 shooting that left six dead and 13 wounded, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who had been greeting constituents outside a Safeway.

    At the time, little was known about the suspect, 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner. Since then, Mr. Loughner has emerged as a mentally unstable ex-student who became focused on Ms. Giffords after asking her a bizarre question about control of language at a constituent gathering in 2007.

    Conservatives have bristled at Sheriff Dupnik’s insinuation that Republicans and the tea party movement were somehow responsible for the rampage. The Pima County Tea Party Patriots plan to “indict” the sheriff at their rally for “politicizing the shootings, blaming free speech for the crime without evidence, failing to protect Giffords, failing to recuse himself from the investigation, and embarrassing the community in front of the nation,” according to the Arizona Daily Star.

    Sheriff Dupnik’s office issued a statement Wednesday saying he would have no further comment on the shooting.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/20/outspoken-tucson-sheriff-faces-recall-bid/

  219. I read something this morning over at HotAir (yeah, it’s a RW site, so sue me) that blew my mind for a couple of reasons.
    It’s an article about GE and Obama, and GE’s profit-making with healthcare, China, and other areas.

    The first thing that blew my mind was this quote from Jeffrey Immelt (I think they pulled it from a Daily Finance article)

    At a recent conference, GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt claimed that America’s economic crisis was not simply an economic crisis. It was instead a “reset”, where companies that intersect with government will “prosper… and people who don’t understand that will get left behind.”
    Immelt, a member of Mr. Obama’s economic recovery advisory board, went on to say that, “The intersection of government and business will be changed, maybe for a generation.”

    Guys, they are not even hiding the business/govt incest anymore. That statement right there is basically a championing of fucking fascism.

    Oh, and the second thing that blew my mind? The author, at the beginning of the article flat out calls it what it is – CRONY CAPITALISM – and not in a pleased way.

    For all the moaning that the rank-and-file right and the Teapartiers are “same as they ever were”, I’ve been watching closely, and they are not. I’ve been seeing a heck of a lot of people on the right calling for an end to the govt/business orgy. You did not see that on the right 10 years ago. I may still disagree on a lot of stuff, but a good many of my teapartying neighbors have pulled back the propaganda veil, and are seeing clearly the dangers, and speaking out.

    Calling for Separation of Corp and State is one area where we may have more allies on the right than we realize.

  220. H4T-

    Here is a similar article flaunting the incestuous relationship between government and corps.

    Obama Picks Jeffrey Immelt, GE CEO, To Run New Jobs-Focused Panel.
    As GE Sends Jobs Overseas, Pays Little In Taxes.

    Here we are paying Immelt big money to create jobs for Americans and prospective jobs from his own company are sent overseas most likely to China. The backdoor deal Obama most likely cut during his visit with Chinese President HU. (I hate giving huffpo the hits but I couldn’t find a link to the article anywhere else.)

    h… w… huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/obama-picks-jeffrey-immel-ge-jobs-overseas_n_812502.html

  221. #
    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    #
    rgb44hrc
    January 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    &&&&&&&&&

    But how do you really feel?
    ………………….

    I’m not sure you are joking or implying something?
    &&&&&&&

    Just joking, moon, it’s that old joke after some completely vents or tells someone off, then someone hearing it says, “But how do you *really ** feel?”

  222. The Pima County Tea Party Patriots plan to “indict” the sheriff at their rally for “politicizing the shootings, blaming free speech for the crime without evidence, failing to protect Giffords, failing to recuse himself from the investigation, and embarrassing the community in front of the nation,” according to the Arizona Daily Star.

    Sheriff Dupnik’s office issued a statement Wednesday saying he would have no further comment on the shooting.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/20/outspoken-tucson-sheriff-faces-recall-bid/

    ==========================

    THey might also indict him for failing to follow up on Loughner’s previous threats to various people. If he’d followed up, it would have gone on Loughner’s record and Loughner would not have been able to pass a background check to buy a semi-automatic gun.

    The Sheriff admitted that there had been ‘contact with law enforcement’ about previous death threats. This came out in an interview with Malkin and was repeated by NPR.

  223. Mrs. Smith, that’s what I’m talking about. Here you have an article from a far-left site and a far-right site, both very alarmed at the incestuous relationship of a big corporation and our govt.

    THERE ARE areas where the right and the left little guy have common cause, but the two legacy parties are working overtime to make sure we keep hating each other over other issues, and never realize it.

  224. moononpluto
    January 22nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Fucking hilarious.

    It gets better. Just when Abercrombie figured out there is no birth certificate he shuts down the investigation.

    APNewsBreak: Hawaii won’t release Obama birth info

    HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.
    &&&&&&&&

    Why the hell didn’t Abercrombie “know the law” when he announced he was originally going to get to the bottom of this and find the birth certificate.

    Also, couldn’t a real birth certificate, if found, be verified by the “proper authorities”? And an edited version submitted for public dissemination that balances the need to maintain one individuals’ confidentiality with the right of the public to know if a public official is eligible to hold their office?

  225. Speaking of fascism (which, seems to me, is less of an unmentionable word than it has been), and areas where the right and the left little guy have common cause…

    Brasscheck recently dropped this off in my mailbox: Resistance and collaboration in Nazi Europe:
    How people resist. This is well researched and documented history.

    If past is prologue:

    1. Many police will go along with it

    2. People who are otherwise useless will be recruited to enforce “the law” (example TSA)

    3. The well-to-do will be more likely to go along with it

    4. People who actually work for a living will make up the bulk of the resistance

    5. Ultimately, distinctions between “right” and “left” won’t matter. Sane and patriotic people will resist regardless of the details of the political background

    6. Most people will do nothing and just keep their heads down and try to survive

    7. All kinds of government atrocities will take place in broad daylight and most people will just look the other way

    8. There will be some heroic people

  226. I guess Dupnik wanted to strike the first blow pointing fingers so no one would criticize Mr and Mrs Loughner for not taking care of their son getting him the proper treatment for his mental health issues. They were aware their son’s behavior had changed radically in the few months before the shooting massacre that targeted Rep Giffords and killed so many innocent people.

    Reading the many articles profiling the Loughner family dynamics. Mrs Loughner, because of her close connection as an employee of the city of Tuscon and her friendly relationship with Sheriff Dupnik was able to convince Dupnik to sidestep standard protocols put in place by the city of Tuscon for dealing with it’s citizens exhibiting mental health problems.

    Sheriff Dupnik gave the family a pass and did not report the boy to the proper authorities after he had been called many times to their home because of the Loughners son’s irratic behavior. Dupnik knew the law was at his back if he did the right thing in the interests of the community suggesting Jared be committed for observation until a determination could be made if he was a danger to himself or others.

    But because Mrs Loughner couldn’t bear the shame of having the community and her city co-workers know about Jared’s mental problems Dupnik deferred his better judgment to Mrs Loughner’s wishes and the primary reason he began pointing fingers at the viciousness of the political climate where eventually blame was assigned to ads created by the Palin camp during the midterms.

    I hope Mrs Loughner is not still in denial and realizes she had the chance to nip Jared’s mental health issues in the bud which certainly would have kept her shame localized and her pride less bruised. And perhaps in the end helped Jared realize a normal life instead of the options he is facing now. Life imprisonment or the death penalty.

  227. It’s amazing, because I hear people on the RIGHT saying we should have put the banks into federally controlled bankruptcy, used the bailout funds to cushion the blow to the economy, liquidated assets, then broken them up into far smaller regional banks so that no one house of finance was ever big enough to threaten our country with collapse again.

    A teapartier friend of mine told me with great frustration, “Don’t they realize that having 3 or 4 banks holding 90% of the assets of a country is asking for trouble? Why don’t they dust off those moldy old Sherman Anti-Trust statutes and APPLY them??!!”

    A lot of people in this country are seeing all too clearly the dangers of oligarchy. But a lot of them use different verbiage to describe it, so get poo-pooed by the left when they erroneously call it “corrupt socialism” or some such nonsense.
    I have plenty of disagreement with my right-leaning friends. Plenty. I will fight them over taxes, over entitlements, over abortion, over any number of things.

    But if we don’t break the stranglehold of the Govt/Corporate partnership is this country, and soon, we are not going to have a country left to argue over. I’ll join hands with anyone who wants to break that stranglehold. And after we get our country back, I’ll gladly debate them over what the top tax rate ought to be.

  228. What prescription drugs was Loughner taking?
    Who was his doctor?
    Go to Tuscon and try to get the answers and I’ll bet you have a very interesting experience.

  229. RE: HillaryforTexas
    January 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
    “But if we don’t break the stranglehold of the Govt/Corporate partnership is this country, and soon, we are not going to have a country left to argue over. I’ll join hands with anyone who wants to break that stranglehold. And after we get our country back, I’ll gladly debate them over what the top tax rate ought to be.”

    Exactly.

  230. In a few ways, obama has given Hillary an impossible task, one filled with symbolic high-tech explosives that he himself installed with his juvenile stumbles.

    There is some true to the following article, some digs, but overall interesting.
    —————————–

    Hillary Clinton’s Middle Eastern Mess

    January 23, 2011
    Steve Clemons

    The absence of results-producing American leadership in the Israel-Palestine mess has led both the Israelis and Palestinians, as well as stakeholders around the Middle East and world, to doubt the seriousness of the US effort. Why invest in something when the US seems so willing to fold on many of its own proposals?

    There are two envoys — perhaps working at cross-purposes though it’s tough to tell — in the efforts of Dennis Ross who is now in Israel trying to move Netanyahu and George Mitchell who is now the Jim Jones of the administration with constant DC cocktail party chatter wondering when he is leaving his post.

    Whether the portfolio was shoved her way by the President or she wanted it herself, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton now owns Israel/Palestine. It’s a defining challenge for her — and her only pathway at the moment to earning a Nobel Peace Prize, which she has never said she covets but probably wouldn’t mind receiving.

    The bottom line is that Clinton has a mess on her hands. Dennis Ross, working out of the National Security Council office in the White House, has the most direct conduit to Bibi Netanyahu. Netanyahu’s decision to communicate delicate political issues and realities through Dennis Ross to the President, rather than using George Mitchell, got Dennis his NSC desk and immediately undermined Mitchell.

    Now that Clinton is investing her political capital into the negotiations, what does she do about the competing Dennis Ross franchise?

    And then Hillary Clinton has a problem in George Mitchell and how he is running the show. At Richard Holbrooke’s Memorial Service, I overheard one senior administration official comment, “With Mitchell talking about 41 years, I want to know if we are in year one or year 40. Sometimes when he talks, I just want to punch a pencil through my head.”

    I have no idea what the 41 years refers to, but the frustration this official expressed was palpable — and it is telling that cocktail chatter in at least one part of the power crowd at Richard Holbrooke’s services was not about Af/Pak, China, not about Iran, not about North Korea, not about Wikileaks, but rather about the resolution on Israeli settlements then bubbling up at the UN Security Council.

    Hillary Clinton can keep Mitchell to hold a scapegoat close if the Israel/Palestine franchise blows up in disaster. Or she can jettison him, own the whole franchise more directly, double down in attaching her own personal credibility to a positive outcome, and get a better franchise manager in place who will be her key overseer and implement her vision.

    But the Israel/Palestine standoff is getting messy. The Palestinians have tabled a resolution at the UN Security Council condemning Israeli settlements, and the US is loathe to vote on it in fear of poking Bibi Netanyahu but also doesn’t want to backtrack on its own stated positions that the Israeli settlements in Occupied Territory are illegal.

    Thus, the push back at the moment by the State Department — which has not said that the US will veto the pending resolution — is about the “venue” for this discussion. The US is trying to say it doesn’t believe the UN Security Council is the right spot to debate the matter.

    This begs the question of what is the right spot — when clearly the Palestinians and Israelis are using every leverage point they can muster outside the neat but unproductive box that George Mitchell has put together to pursue their interests and claims.

    When there is no American vision, no US leadership, no serious deep investment by the President and Hillary Clinton in making recalcitrants on both sides of the issue pay heavily for unconstructive positions, there will be “messiness” and those who want a deal on both the Palestine side — and also Israel’s (i.e., Livni) — will not stay inside the parameters Hillary Clinton wants.

    http://thefastertimes.com/washingtonnotes/2011/01/23/hillary-clintons-middle-eastern-mess/

  231. H4T

    “THERE ARE areas where the right and the left little guy have common cause, but the two legacy parties are working overtime to make sure we keep hating each other over other issues, and never realize it.”
    _______________________

    When we do realize it, we are left fuming because there is nothing we can do about it. Obama and the Republicans have formed a symbiotic relationship. You wash my back and I’ll wash yours. This morning I read the Republicans much vaunted coming assault on repeal of the HCR Bill has fizzled turning to regurgitated mush while they quietly walk away concerning themselves with more pressing matters-… “who should we run for the O/O in 2012?”

    From now on, every word coming from both sides of the aisle will be in the interests of public appeasement, empty rhetoric fit for nothing but the circular file. JOBS(?) You need jobs(?) OK, we’ll get right on it! not…

  232. It may be as simple as Dupe-nik being jealous of Joe Arpaio over in Maricopa county.
    IMHO they should just do their job and stay the hell out of politics.

  233. ““Don’t they realize that having 3 or 4 banks holding 90% of the assets of a country is asking for trouble?”
    _______________________

    Realize it? Congress, the Bankers, the Fed created it. It took them over twenty years to absorb the smaller banks amalgamating them into 3-4 Big banks. What is happening to us now has been a dream of the Republican Party and the Neocons beginning with BushI’s dream of a New World Order. Read Gingrich’s Contract With America and the PNAC Agreement, the Tri-Lateral Commission’s mission statement.It’s all there.

    The chess pieces have been moving slowly across the chess board until the culmination of their dreams was finally realized beginning late in 08′ and the beginning of 09′ with the Banking crisis leading to the Foreclosure epidemic. It’s what they have wanted all along. Breaking the Middle Class. Can we STOP a runaway freight train? We could, but we need the right president in power to begin the reconstruction process and the only one we can TRUST is Hillary.

    How hard do you think all these entities will try anything short of the big A-word to stop her from righting the country after their years of waiting for their dreams becoming the reality it is now?

    It’s the reason why I get so aggravated when I hear the ignoramuses claim she didn’t work hard enough. This coming from the mouths of the mental midgets who don’t have a flying fig of an idea about what they are talking about but are the first to criticize.

  234. When there is no American vision, no US leadership, no serious deep investment by the President and Hillary Clinton in making recalcitrants on both sides of the issue pay heavily for unconstructive positions, there will be “messiness” and those who want a deal on both the Palestine side — and also Israel’s (i.e., Livni) — will not stay inside the parameters Hillary Clinton wants.
    ————————-
    The is absolutely true the world over. With Obama at the helm the United States is no longer feared, and because it is the United States it is not loved either. It is seen as a paper tiger. Machiavelli reduced the leadership equation to a simple postulate: a prince has only two options–he must either be feared or loved. When there is a leadership vaccuum, there will be a period of instability and eventually a new power comes in to fill the vaccuum. That is where we are now. Obama’s approach to the world is a fools errand. His approach is predicated on lofty pontificates, precatory words, and sitting around in a hot tub singing nekid with the like of Hugo, Dinnerjacket (sans the dinner jacket) and that unsinkable molly brown of the asian sphere Kim Jo Ill but I aint done yet, sampling caviar. Obama’s pitch aided and abetted by Martin Borman Immelt is we must put all nations in the GE supply chain, produce in the cheapest markets and sell into the most affluent ones and any business who fails to do that will be left behind. Nations in the same supply chain do not make war on each other because it is too costly. That is unrealitic over the long term. It foreshadows more instability and the eventual emergence of China as the sole global power. Obama delivers our nation into the hands of its enemies to enrich GE. That statement may be a bit of hyperbole but there is a lot of truth to it.

  235. The Olberman thing throws me for a loop and begs the inevitable question of why did they hire him and how long will he last. What will he do at FOX? Will his audience migrate to FOX now? Highly unlikely. Too much water under that bridge. Will the FOX audience welcome him with open arms? Not likely. Too much water under that bridge as well. Will he replace Geraldo? How will he get along with O’Reilly? They hate each other. And I doubt he will be on Beck’s Christmas list. To his credit, Murdock hates MSNBC and this is a sharp stick in their eye, so it may be personal–but at what cost. Or could this be a case of preclusive buying to keep him from being bought up some other network that wants a Howard Beal type. If I were Murdock I would give the ignorant son of a bitch a pre frontal labotomy and then everyone could sleep soundly.

  236. I don’t think Olber-pervert is going to FOX, I think that was just a joke on some blog and now has spread. The woman-hating SOB was fired, and I guess this is to set the stage that Waffles really isn’t that far left, which he is 100%.

  237. These hiring moves by Murdock could make sense from a business standpoint but he is taking a gamble–and I am sure he knows it. But if you look at this from the standpoint of marketshare alone if he can recruit high profile left wing extremists like Olberstrumfeuerher who is MSNBC’S highest producer then he can suck a big chunk of their audience away and with a little bit of luck kill them off because if any network deserves to die that is the one. Likewise the hiring of John Robertson who strikes me at least as a casper milktoast of sorts hurts cnn and cbs and that is good for FOX too. But when the day comes that Murdock hires the little chipmunk Katie Couric then I will know for sure he has gone mad. In the meantime, the thing I would worry about is what the hiring of Olberman would do to the brand with his conservative audience, but I am reasonably sure he has an answer for that one as well. I do think he is out to destroy his competitors, and this is perhaps the only case I can think of where I can honestly say I applaud the strategy. I guess in the final analysis I like the guy, and perhaps that is because he seems to be a self made man, not a Harvard product and is giving them a good lesson on how to beat them. I will believe that illusion until I am proven wrong. Whether the Olberman decision is enough to do that remains to be seen. Poor Geraldo. Perhaps they will seal him in the vault, and Olberman will be assigned to open the door and discover either a real fortune or a real corpus delitici–which would upstage Jerry Rivers and his long remembered Easter Egg hunt for the treasure trove of Al Capone which yielded little more than a long moment of embarrassment.

  238. I don’t think Olber-pervert is going to FOX, I think that was just a joke on some blog and now has spread. The woman-hating SOB was fired, and I guess this is to set the stage that Waffles really isn’t that far left, which he is 100%.
    ————————
    You may be correct Tim, and it is just a joke. Or it could be an attempt to marginalize Olberman on his way out the door consistent with this unity garbage which the Obama interests and their GE business backers are peddling, because they now have control and want to do something for GE. But you know stranger things have happened, and both Murdock and Olbernazi have a grudge against msnbc, Immelt, and even Obama which borders on hate, and hate can blind one to all other factors. In Olbermans case he could give voice to Obama’s betrayal of the left and his metamorphisis into a complete fucking corporate shill, which the left wing once pretended to despise.

  239. The expression moving to the center must be defined insofar as they are applied to Obama. It means putting business globalists like Imelt and Wild Bill Daley in charge of government.

  240. wbboei if Olber-pervert was to be hired by Fox, I might put on heavy duty hazmat and venture to the Daily Kooks website just to see the complete and utter meltdown that would ensue.

  241. pm317

    changing names is not that hard, you will have to contact the SS office once a judge has approved this, and then make sure all authorities at all levels are aware of this.

  242. Obama taking over the pharmaceutical industry, who couldnt see that coming…the guy is in their pockets. Obama does nothing unless he gets something from it.

    Obama Drug Labs

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/health/policy/23drug.html

    The Obama administration has become so concerned about the slowing pace of new drugs coming out of the pharmaceutical industry that officials have decided to start a billion-dollar government drug development center to help create medicines.

    The new effort comes as many large drug makers, unable to find enough new drugs, are paring back research. Promising discoveries in illnesses like depression and Parkinson’s that once would have led to clinical trials are instead going unexplored because companies have neither the will nor the resources to undertake the effort.

  243. ohanson
    January 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am

    What prescription drugs was Loughner taking?
    Who was his doctor?
    Go to Tuscon and try to get the answers and I’ll bet you have a very interesting experience.
    ———–

    Speaking of hunting down the fact, I heard on the news yesterday that there were 200 FBI folks working on the case and another 50 will be sent to join them.

    Made me scratch my head and wonder if Loner was a lone shooter, with mental health problems, and he is behind bars…why does it take 250 FBI suits to investigate this case?????

  244. Obama Drug Labs

    ———

    Maybe it is stemmed as a search for his own health problems?

    Personally, anyone that finds cures to diseases, as long as profit isn’t their priority has my appreciation.

    Stem cell research, lower cost for meds, whatever works is better.

    Then again, anything started by Barry worries me.

  245. why does it take 250 FBI suits to investigate this case?????

    ================

    Same reason they sent 17 reporters to WAsilla to look throuogh Palin’s trash can. Looking for some way to make political hay.

  246. pm317
    January 23rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Out of curiosity, when one wants to legally change their name, what is the process in this country?
    ———
    My dad shortened his last name when he was in his early twenties, he had to go to court to do it.

    Even if you have a name change from marriage you have to go though the Social Security Office and have it changed there.

  247. turndown

    FBI agents are not like reporters from TMZ.

    They at least get paid more and have job security. 😉

  248. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Cantor: I believe Obama is a US citizen

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The new Republican House majority leader says he doesn’t think questions about President Barack Obama’s citizenship should play a role in the discussion of policy matters.

    Two years into the Obama administration, so-called birthers continue to argue that Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and that he hasn’t proved he’s constitutionally qualified to be president. Birth records in Hawaii haven’t dissuaded them.

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen and that most Americans are beyond that question.

    Appearing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cantor refused to call people who question Obama’s citizenship “crazy,” saying it’s not nice to call anyone crazy.

    Cantor says he believes that Obama wants what’s best for the country and that there are honest disagreements over how to achieve that.

  249. obama-says-jobs-competitiveness-will-be-main-focus-of-his-state

    He says that at the start of every year. But, I believe him THIS time ROFL

  250. tim
    January 23rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    wbboei if Olber-pervert was to be hired by Fox, I might put on heavy duty hazmat and venture to the Daily Kooks website just to see the complete and utter meltdown that would ensue.
    ***********************************************************

    yes, would be fun to see a Fox version of “Crossfire” with Olbermann and O’Rielly…

  251. Assuming that Obama’s name on his BC and other documents is Barry Soetoro, to prove that Obama did not change his name back from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama, it would be like trying to prove a negative to look for an absence of paper trail. He knows this.

    Or he could just show us his BC, college transcripts, and so on..

  252. Actually wondering if his name could legally be Soteoro, that would be enough as it would be fraud on all documents.

  253. but moononpluto, he will say, prove it that it is Soetoro. Then the only way it could be proved outside of looking at his official records which he has concealed and sealed, would be to look for a paper trail for a name change back to Hussein Obama. Of course, where would you start with that?

  254. Here comes trouble, this may just spark off something bad.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/palestine-papers-expose-peace-concession

    Secret papers reveal slow death of Middle East peace process

    • Massive new leak lifts lid on negotiations
    • PLO offered up key settlements in East Jerusalem
    • Concessions made on refugees and Holy sites

    The biggest leak of confidential documents in the history of the Middle East conflict has revealed that Palestinian negotiators secretly agreed to accept Israel’s annexation of all but one of the settlements built illegally in occupied East Jerusalem. This unprecedented proposal was one of a string of concessions that will cause shockwaves among Palestinians and in the wider Arab world.

    A cache of thousands of pages of confidential Palestinian records covering more than a decade of negotiations with Israel and the US has been obtained by al-Jazeera TV and shared exclusively with the Guardian. The papers provide an extraordinary and vivid insight into the disintegration of the 20-year peace process, which is now regarded as all but dead.

    The documents – many of which will be published by the Guardian over the coming days – also reveal:

    • The scale of confidential concessions offered by Palestinian negotiators, including on the highly sensitive issue of the right of return of Palestinian refugees.

    • How Israeli leaders privately asked for some Arab citizens to be transferred to a new Palestinian state.

    • The intimate level of covert co-operation between Israeli security forces and the Palestinian Authority.

    • The central role of British intelligence in drawing up a secret plan to crush Hamas in the Palestinian territories.

    • How Palestinian Authority (PA) leaders were privately tipped off about Israel’s 2008-9 war in Gaza.

  255. That was one confusing sentence — I should say, to prove it is not Soetoro, we need to find a paper trail for name change back to Hussein Obama which should be easy, no? But in the absence of such a paper trail for a name change, what do we conclude? That his name on BC is not Soetoro or that he didn’t do the name change? So many questions and so few answers.

  256. The head of the DNC Tim Kaine, needs to ask Obama for the long form of
    his birth certificate, seeing he is posturing himself as a candidate for a second term of the presidency, proving he is in fact a NBC.

    Congress should step up and pass legislation anyone seeing to be a viable candidate for the presidency is required to provide proof of their Natural Born Citizenship.

  257. moononpluto
    January 23rd, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    ———————–
    This isn’t a wikileak? If not, then someone deep within one side or the other leaked this.

    As you say, it doesn’t bode well.

  258. moon,

    This also caps the crisis…
    —————-

    Palestinian leaders weak – and increasingly desperate

    Leaked documents show PA and PLO leaders pleading with dismissive US officials in face of Israel’s unyielding negotiators

    Seumas Milne
    guardian.co.uk,
    Sunday 23 January 2011

    Leaked papers expose the weakness of Palestinian negotiators Ahmed Qureia (right) and Saeb Erekat (2nd right) against the strength of the Israelis, such as Tzipi Livni (left), in the peace process. Photograph: David Furst/AFP/Getty Images The overwhelming impression that emerges from the confidential records of a decade of Middle East peace talks is of the weakness and desperation of Palestinian leaders, the unyielding correctness of Israeli negotiators and the often contemptuous attitude towards the Palestinian side shown by US politicians and officials.

    It is a picture that graphically illustrates the gradual breakdown of a process now widely believed to have reached a dead end. The documents reveal Palestinian Authority leaders often tipping over into making ingratiating appeals to their Israeli counterparts, as well as US leaders. “I would vote for you,” the then senior Palestinian negotiator, Ahmed Qureia (also known as Abu Ala), told Tzipi Livni, Israel’s foreign minister, during talks at the King David hotel in Jerusalem in June 2008, as she was preparing for elections in her Kadima party. Given the choice, Livni shot back, “you don’t have much of a dilemma.”

    Qureia’s comment echoed earlier private remarks by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), to Ariel Sharon in a June 2005 meeting at the then Israeli prime minister’s residence which would have caused outrage if they had been made known at the time.

    Having listened to Sharon berate him for failing to crack down on the “terrorist infrastructure” of Hamas and Islamic jihad, Abbas was recorded as noting “with pleasure the fact that Sharon considered him a friend, and the fact that he too considered Sharon a friend”, adding that “every bullet that is aimed in the direction of Israel is a bullet aimed at the Palestinians as well”. In March 2008, the documents show that Qureia greeted the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, with the words: “You bring back life to the region when you come.”

    But as the 2007-08 Annapolis negotiations led nowhere and the government of Binyamin Netanyahu successfully resisted US pressure to halt settlement building in the occupied territories during 2009-10, Palestinian negotiators are shown adopting an increasingly injured and despairing tone with US officials, as they seek to demonstrate the scale of concessions they have made to no avail.

    In an emotional – and apparently humiliating – outburst to Barack Obama’s Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, in Washington in October 2009, the senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat complained that the Ramallah-based Palestinian leadership wasn’t even being offered a “figleaf”.

    He said: “Nineteen years of promises and you haven’t made up your minds what you want to do with us … We delivered on our road map obligations. Even Yuval Diskin [director of Israel’s internal security service, Shabak] raises his hat on security. But no, they can’t even give a six-month freeze to give me a figleaf.”

    All the US government was interested in, Erekat went on, was “PR, quick news, and we’re cost free”, ending up with the appeal: “What good am I if I’m the joke of my wife, if I’m so weak?”

    A few months later, in January 2010, Erekat returned to a similar theme with the US state department official David Hale, saying he was offering Israel “the biggest Yerushalayim in Jewish history” (using the Hebrew name for Jerusalem), a “symbolic number of refugees’ return, demilitarised state … What more can I give?”

    But as became clear even under the earlier, less hardline Israeli government of Ehud Olmert, the scale of concessions offered by Erekat and other Palestinian Authority negotiators – far beyond what the majority of the Palestinian public would be likely to accept – was insufficient for Israeli leaders.

    During the most intensive recent negotiations, before and after George Bush’s Annapolis conference, the documents show the Israelis conducting themselves in a businesslike manner. In an attempt to show her good faith, Livni is recorded confirming what Palestinians have always accused Israeli governments of doing: creating facts on the ground to prevent the possibility of a viable Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza.

    At a west Jerusalem meeting in November 2007, she told Qureia that she believed Palestinians saw settlement building as meaning “Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible”; that “the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we’ll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state”. She conceded that it had been “the policy of the government for a really long time”.

    At the end of 2007, though, “it is still the policy of some of the parties but not the government”.

    But when Palestinian leaders balked at the prospect of an entirely demilitarised state, Livni made clear where the negotiating power lay. In May 2008, Erekat asked Livni: “Short of your jet fighters in my sky and your army on my territory, can I choose where I secure external defence?”

    “No,” Livni replied. “In order to create your state you have to agree in advance with Israel – you choose not to have the right of choice afterwards.”

    By the following year, Erekat appeared to have accepted that choice. “The Palestinians know they will have a country with limitations,” he told Mitchell. “They won’t have an army, air force or navy.” A string of other major concessions had been made, but the issues were no further forward. “They need decisions,” Erekat pleaded.

    Increasingly, PA leaders resorted to warning US officials that if they failed to deliver an agreement with Israel, the door would be opened to Hamas and Iran. In October 2009, Erekat told Mitchell: “In no time you will have Aziz Dweik as your partner,” referring to the Hamas speaker of the Palestinian parliament, who constitutionally assumes the role of Palestinian president when the job is vacant.

    PA leaders repeatedly threatened to abandon attempts to negotiate a two-state solution in favour of a one-state option. At the same meeting, Erekat declared that if the settlement of the West Bank continued, “we will announce the one state and the struggle for equality in the state of Israel”.

    But the documents show US officials unmoved by such claims. Why were the Palestinians “always in a chapter of a Greek tragedy”, secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, asked at a meeting with Erekat in Washington in the autumn of 2009.

    Her predecessor, Rice, had been even more dismissive. In July 2008 during talks with Palestinian leaders over compensation for refugees who fled or were forced from their homes when Israel was established in 1948, she said: “Bad things happen to people all around the world all the time.”

    If the Palestinians kept insisting that Israel could not keep the large settlements of Ma’ale Adumim (near Jerusalem) and Ariel (in the heart of the West Bank), Rice told them: “You won’t have a state”. No Israeli leader could accept a deal “without including them in an Israeli state”.

    As to the most neuralgic issue – Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount holy sites in Jerusalem – she declared: “If we wait until you decide sovereignty … your children’s children will not have an agreement.”

    Leaked papers expose the weakness of Palestinian negotiators Ahmed Qureia (right) and Saeb Erekat (2nd right) against the strength of the Israelis, such as Tzipi Livni (left), in the peace process. Photograph: David Furst/AFP/Getty Images The overwhelming impression that emerges from the confidential records of a decade of Middle East peace talks is of the weakness and desperation of Palestinian leaders, the unyielding correctness of Israeli negotiators and the often contemptuous attitude towards the Palestinian side shown by US politicians and officials.

    It is a picture that graphically illustrates the gradual breakdown of a process now widely believed to have reached a dead end. The documents reveal Palestinian Authority leaders often tipping over into making ingratiating appeals to their Israeli counterparts, as well as US leaders. “I would vote for you,” the then senior Palestinian negotiator, Ahmed Qureia (also known as Abu Ala), told Tzipi Livni, Israel’s foreign minister, during talks at the King David hotel in Jerusalem in June 2008, as she was preparing for elections in her Kadima party. Given the choice, Livni shot back, “you don’t have much of a dilemma.”

    Qureia’s comment echoed earlier private remarks by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), to Ariel Sharon in a June 2005 meeting at the then Israeli prime minister’s residence which would have caused outrage if they had been made known at the time.

    Having listened to Sharon berate him for failing to crack down on the “terrorist infrastructure” of Hamas and Islamic jihad, Abbas was recorded as noting “with pleasure the fact that Sharon considered him a friend, and the fact that he too considered Sharon a friend”, adding that “every bullet that is aimed in the direction of Israel is a bullet aimed at the Palestinians as well”. In March 2008, the documents show that Qureia greeted the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, with the words: “You bring back life to the region when you come.”

    But as the 2007-08 Annapolis negotiations led nowhere and the government of Binyamin Netanyahu successfully resisted US pressure to halt settlement building in the occupied territories during 2009-10, Palestinian negotiators are shown adopting an increasingly injured and despairing tone with US officials, as they seek to demonstrate the scale of concessions they have made to no avail.

    In an emotional – and apparently humiliating – outburst to Barack Obama’s Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, in Washington in October 2009, the senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat complained that the Ramallah-based Palestinian leadership wasn’t even being offered a “figleaf”.

    He said: “Nineteen years of promises and you haven’t made up your minds what you want to do with us … We delivered on our road map obligations. Even Yuval Diskin [director of Israel’s internal security service, Shabak] raises his hat on security. But no, they can’t even give a six-month freeze to give me a figleaf.”

    All the US government was interested in, Erekat went on, was “PR, quick news, and we’re cost free”, ending up with the appeal: “What good am I if I’m the joke of my wife, if I’m so weak?”

    A few months later, in January 2010, Erekat returned to a similar theme with the US state department official David Hale, saying he was offering Israel “the biggest Yerushalayim in Jewish history” (using the Hebrew name for Jerusalem), a “symbolic number of refugees’ return, demilitarised state … What more can I give?”

    But as became clear even under the earlier, less hardline Israeli government of Ehud Olmert, the scale of concessions offered by Erekat and other Palestinian Authority negotiators – far beyond what the majority of the Palestinian public would be likely to accept – was insufficient for Israeli leaders.

    During the most intensive recent negotiations, before and after George Bush’s Annapolis conference, the documents show the Israelis conducting themselves in a businesslike manner. In an attempt to show her good faith, Livni is recorded confirming what Palestinians have always accused Israeli governments of doing: creating facts on the ground to prevent the possibility of a viable Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza.

    At a west Jerusalem meeting in November 2007, she told Qureia that she believed Palestinians saw settlement building as meaning “Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible”; that “the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we’ll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state”. She conceded that it had been “the policy of the government for a really long time”.

    At the end of 2007, though, “it is still the policy of some of the parties but not the government”.

    But when Palestinian leaders balked at the prospect of an entirely demilitarised state, Livni made clear where the negotiating power lay. In May 2008, Erekat asked Livni: “Short of your jet fighters in my sky and your army on my territory, can I choose where I secure external defence?”

    “No,” Livni replied. “In order to create your state you have to agree in advance with Israel – you choose not to have the right of choice afterwards.”

    By the following year, Erekat appeared to have accepted that choice. “The Palestinians know they will have a country with limitations,” he told Mitchell. “They won’t have an army, air force or navy.” A string of other major concessions had been made, but the issues were no further forward. “They need decisions,” Erekat pleaded.

    Increasingly, PA leaders resorted to warning US officials that if they failed to deliver an agreement with Israel, the door would be opened to Hamas and Iran. In October 2009, Erekat told Mitchell: “In no time you will have Aziz Dweik as your partner,” referring to the Hamas speaker of the Palestinian parliament, who constitutionally assumes the role of Palestinian president when the job is vacant.

    PA leaders repeatedly threatened to abandon attempts to negotiate a two-state solution in favour of a one-state option. At the same meeting, Erekat declared that if the settlement of the West Bank continued, “we will announce the one state and the struggle for equality in the state of Israel”.

    But the documents show US officials unmoved by such claims. Why were the Palestinians “always in a chapter of a Greek tragedy”, secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, asked at a meeting with Erekat in Washington in the autumn of 2009.

    Her predecessor, Rice, had been even more dismissive. In July 2008 during talks with Palestinian leaders over compensation for refugees who fled or were forced from their homes when Israel was established in 1948, she said: “Bad things happen to people all around the world all the time.”

    If the Palestinians kept insisting that Israel could not keep the large settlements of Ma’ale Adumim (near Jerusalem) and Ariel (in the heart of the West Bank), Rice told them: “You won’t have a state”. No Israeli leader could accept a deal “without including them in an Israeli state”.

    As to the most neuralgic issue – Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount holy sites in Jerusalem – she declared: “If we wait until you decide sovereignty … your children’s children will not have an agreement.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/palestine-papers-power-weakness-negotiations

  259. This isn’t a wikileak? If not, then someone deep within one side or the other leaked this.

    =========================

    Wikileaks gets their stuff from people deep inside, too.

    The only difference is that Wikileaks is the middleman, verifying the info and protecting the whistleblower’s identity. That’s just what any good journalist anywhere does, if not in someone’s pocket.

  260. Now will we see the media go nuts over this gun violence

    ……………………..

    1 : Detroit police chief Godbee: 4 cops shot, shooter dead; 6th precinct is closed, active crime scene. Calls diverted to 10th, 12th precinct.

    2 : 2 Deputies, 2 Others Shot At Port Orchard Walmart

    PORT ORCHARD, Wash. — Four people — including two sheriff’s deputies — have been shot at a Walmart in Port Orchard.

    Early reports say two suspects are in custody and the scene is secure.

    KIRO 7 Eyewitness News crews and Chopper 7 are heading to the scene.

    A woman who said she is a customer service officer with Walmart told anchor Monique Ming Laven that the store is locked down with about 100 people inside.

    A customer inside the store at the time said he heard two shots.

    “It’s not clear who or what happened exactly but the store is on lock down right now,” Mike Lambert told Ming Laven by phone. “No one is allowed in or out until further notice by police.”

    “Everyone’s just waiting to get out and see what happened. A bunch of people are just waiting at the front doors,” he said.

    ………………………………

    I wonder if its Sarah Palins fault or is it not politically advantageous for Obama.

  261. Appearing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cantor refused to call people who question Obama’s citizenship “crazy,” saying it’s not nice to call anyone crazy.

    Cantor says he believes that Obama wants what’s best for the country and that there are honest disagreements over how to achieve that.
    *********************
    I happened to catch this moment in the show today and David Gregory was trying to bait Cantor into getting into the BC issue or dismissing the ‘birthers’ as crazy. He was actually yelling at Cantor. Cantor stayed calm and refused to take either bait. He actually handled himself very well, but Gregory looked like an ass. It was strange.

  262. President Obama e-mailed supporters a preview video of his Tuesday address. The major themes he laid out:

    Creating jobs

    “My principal focus, my number one focus, is going be making sure that we are competitive, that we are growing, and we are creating jobs not just now but well into the future.” People briefed on the speech said Obama will look to invest in transportation and the nation’s aging infrastructure as one way to create jobs. The United States is going to have to “out-innovate,” “out-compete” and “out-educate” other nations, Obama said.

    Reducing the deficit

    “We’re . . . going to have to deal with our deficits and our debt in a responsible way,” Obama said in the video. “And we’ve got to reform government so that it’s leaner and smarter for the 21st century.” He didn’t go into detail about how he would emphasize fiscal restraint.

    Defending health-care reform

    Obama plans to vigorously defend his health-care overhaul, now under attack by Republicans in Congress, and will restate his commitment to regulating Wall Street.

    Troops

    Obama is expected to underscore the end-of-year deadline for all U.S. troops to leave Iraq. In Afghanistan, Obama will renew his commitment to the July deadline he has set for the start of troop withdrawals, a process scheduled to unfold through 2014 at a pace to be determined by conditions on the ground.

    Education

    The president has specifically vowed to defend education programs from major cuts.

    Political unity

    Obama will build on his recent call for civil discourse and bipartisanship. “We’re up to it, as long as we come together as a people – Republicans, Democrats, independent – as long as we focus on what binds us together as a people, as long as we’re willing to find common ground even as we’re having some very vigorous debates,” he said.

    …………………….

    Same old bumf.

  263. ” He actually handled himself very well, but Gregory looked like an ass. It was strange.”

    I saw this on TV, yes, Gregory looked like a complete and utter ass, and a total Obot. The irony is completely lost on this pathetic excuse for a “journolist”, he should have been doing his own investigations as to why not just release the damn BC? we all know if this was Sarah Palin doing this, they would be demanding it night and day. The irony is abosolutely lost on these fools.

    He as well as all the rest of the so called “mainstream” media is just an extension of the Waffles pathetic administration.

  264. So does the MSM believe that the bc could be an issue that could defeat BO in 2012 or is this just the usual kick anyone who could be a threat to Obama? Why was Gregory yelling at Cantor? I didn’t see the rest of the interview so I don’t know if Cantor was getting the best of Gregory or if Gregory just lost it on this issue.

  265. I think they are trying to see how much of an issue this BC thing will be for 2012. They can not run a poll on it, can they? 🙂 They are also trying to see what the repubs will do.

  266. Creating jobs

    “My principal focus, my number one focus, is going be making sure that we are competitive, that we are growing, and we are creating jobs not just now but well into the future.”
    ************
    This makes me nervous. What does Obama mean by making sure we are competitive. Gutting unions, lower wages, funding big corps…

    Reducing the deficit

    “We’re . . . going to have to deal with our deficits and our debt in a responsible way,” Obama said in the video. “And we’ve got to reform government so that it’s leaner and smarter for the 21st century.”
    ******************
    this also make me nervous. Reform govt! Oh oh.

  267. Gregory’s manner today could simply be in response to an order from GE to attack the repubs and defend Obama. They all do what they are told.

  268. Hillbuzz made the headlines at the meme.
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    HillBuzz.org:
    HAWAII GROUND REPORT: Could Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie not be as incompetent and foolish as he appears, but orchestrating a deliberate birth certificate recovery dead end to cover his own papakole? UPDATED: Mystery solved! Reason Obama will not release birth certificate is because his name …
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    Discussion: Little Green Footballs, Atlas Shrugs, Scared Monkeys, Moe Lane, NewsReal Blog, JammieWearingFool, Don Surber and iOwnTheWorld.com

  269. moononpluto, lessee, an SEIU group just published an anti-Walmart flyer with a crosshairs on it, and now there is a shooting at WalMart. Think the media will go apoplectic that the flyer caused it? Nope.

    And of course, I don’t believe the flyer DID cause it. But the double standard will be interesting to see.

  270. Well my beloved Packers won the NFC and the fraud had predicted the Bears would win. I am hoping this precedes his losing in 2012 to our lovely Hillary!

  271. really? Allen is rerunning again? well good for him, he lost only by about 9000 votes in 2006.

    And that with the Washington Compost running front page of his “Macca” nonsense everyday practically. Webb will lose, and VA is Tea Party central now.
    I thought Jim Webb was a centerist conservative democrat, there are no such things anymore, every democrat is a Obama democrat.

  272. an SEIU group just published an anti-Walmart flyer with a crosshairs on it, and now there is a shooting at WalMart. Think the media will go apoplectic that the flyer caused it? Nope.

    ===================

    They might use it to say that Palin’s flyer caused the Tucson shooting. If they can find any evidence that the Walmart shooter saw the anti-Walmart fllyer.

  273. gonzotx….yes, go Pack go! Obama doesn’t really know much about sports, every team he picks seems to lose. IMO Rodgers is the best QB in football.

    I was hoping for Pack/Jets…oh well.

  274. Re: “I heard on the news yesterday that there were 200 FBI folks working on the case and another 50 will be sent to join them.”
    ————————–

    What is reported on the news may or may not be true.

  275. Iran hangs two for involvement in vote unrest: report

    TEHRAN (Reuters) – Iran executed two members of an exiled opposition group on Monday who it said were involved in turmoil after the disputed 2009 presidential election, the official IRNA news agency reported.

    It said Jafar Kazemi and Mohammadali Hajaghaie were members of the Mujahideen Khalq Organization (MKO) and had filmed and distributed footage of huge opposition protests that erupted in Iran after the vote.

    “Two members of the Monafeghin (hypocrites) group … were hanged early today,” IRNA reported, citing a statement by the prosecutor’s office.

    The report said the two men were “members of an active network” of MKO and were involved in post-election riots with the guidance of their leader in England. IRNA said the pair were hanged after an appeals court upheld their death sentences.

    Iran executed two people last year in connection with the vote unrest and on charges including waging war against God, trying to overthrow the Islamic establishment and being members of armed opposition groups.

    The vote, which was followed by huge opposition protests, plunged Iran into its deepest internal crisis since the 1979 Islamic Revolution and exposed divisions in the establishment.

    The reformist opposition says the election was rigged to bring back President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The authorities deny the charge and have portrayed the protests as a foreign-backed bid to undermine the Islamic government system.

    Thousands of people, including senior reformers, were detained after the election for fomenting unrest. Most of them have since been freed, but more than 80 people have been jailed for up to 15 years and five have been sentenced to death.

    Separately on Monday, six Iranians were hanged on different charges, including rape and murder, Iranian media reported.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70N3CK20110124

  276. Ireland: Here Today, Gone Tomorrow: A Lesson for Obama
    January 23, 2011 • 5:09PM

    At 2pm Irish time Saturday, Taoiseach Brian Cowen, who has spent all week insisting that he had the confidence of his Fianna Fail Party, and even won his own vote of confidence on Tuesday, announced that he was stepping down from his post as leader of the party, but retaining the office of, what in other countries is called Prime Minister. Cowen said, “My intention now is to concentrate fully on government business and on continuing to implement the recovery plan,” meaning his plan to hand over the country’s sovereignty for looting by London’s Inter-Alpha group of banks.

    Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams responded, “Today’s announcement will lead to further instability. The government and Fianna Fail are in chaos. Their focus is not on the problems facing the country. The Taoiseach needs to call a General Election now. It’s time to let the people have their say.”

    Labour Party leader Eamon Gilmore said Cowen’s announcement means that a General Election simply cannot be deferred any longer.

    Even Fine Gael Dail leader Enda Kenny, who last week said a vote of no confidence in Cowen was ill timed, said today that Cowen should immediately offer the President his resignation, and if he didn’t, Fine Gael would join the rest of the opposition in a no confidence vote on Tuesday. He said, “It is complete and utter madness for Brian Cowen to resign as leader of the party and remain as the Taoiseach of the country.”

    Political pundits as well as bookmakers are figuring up votes and betting on whether Cowen will resign (or eirigh as they say in Irish) or be heaved out. In addition to Sinn Fein’s cartoon of Cowen dressed as Nero fiddling while Ireland burns, the establishment Irish Independent newspaper ran an editorial cartoon on the same theme.

    An Irish journalist told this news service this evening that today’s events are constitutionally unprecedented. He said people are reeling at the speed at which things are changing in these interesting times, and that politicians like Obama might take note that they can be here today and gone tomorrow.

  277. Obama Won’t Create Jobs or Innovation by Hiring Progressive CEO Jeff Immelt

    Washington, D.C. – President Barack Obama’s appointment of General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt to lead the White House’s new “President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness” does not signal a serious attitude toward thoughtful and open discussion on ways to jumpstart the stalled American economy.

    Experts with the National Center for Public Policy Research cite Immelt’s close ties with Obama on policy matters such as cap-and-trade and his ineffective leadership at GE as proof that this new council will not possess the dynamic leadership it deserves.

    “Tragically, the continuing Obama-Immelt partnership is going to drive our economy and job creation over a cliff. Their war on fossil fuels is only going to drive jobs overseas,” said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the Project 21 black leadership network. “Americans stated loudly and clearly in last November’s elections that ‘We the People’ will not stand for policies that expands government and raises energy prices. Putting Immelt in charge of this new council sends exactly the wrong message.”

    According to Obama, the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness will “focus its work on finding new ways to encourage the private sector to hire and invest in American competitiveness.” Immelt, in a January 21 Washington Post commentary boasting of his appointment, wrote: “My hope is that the council will be a sounding board for ideas and a catalyst for action on jobs and competitiveness. It will include large businesses, small businesses, labor, economists and government.”

    “Obama and Immelt are mutually dependent on each other. Obama needs corporate money for his re-election campaign and Immelt needs the president’s muscle to continue the Administration’s war on cheap energy to make GE’s renewable energy products economically competitive,” said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center’s Free Enterprise Project. “Making energy prices skyrocket is not an economic recovery plan. It’s a recipe for economic disaster.”

    As CEO of General Electric, Immelt directly participated in promoting Obama’s “cap-and-trade” energy regulations proposal. While this could increase GE’s short-term business in wind and solar technologies, the consequences of the policy is certain — by Obama’s own admission — to “skyrocket” energy costs. GE has additionally sold technology to Iran and it is planning on sharing jet engine technology with China. GE also lobbied for and received tens of millions in stimulus money and received financial support from the Federal Reserve. During Immelt’s ten-year reign as CEO, GE had to cut its dividend and its stock price has fallen to about half its previous value.

    Obama’s pick of Immelt will undoubtedly provoke the further ire of tea party activists already unhappy with the White House’s big-government agenda. A recent nationwide poll conducted by FreedomWorks and the National Center, which can be found at http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-Tea_Party_Survey_112310.html, found that GE was extremely unpopular with conservatives due to Immelt’s reliance on the government and support of Obama’s policies.

    “Innovation and job creation will not come from someone who is already marching in lock-step with President Obama’s big government agenda,” added Deneen Borelli. “America needs economic leaders who embrace the entrepreneurial spirit not CEO leeches who feed on taxpayer money for revenue. Lead by the tea party movement, voters rejected progressive policies and cleaned house on Capitol Hill. If this council is going to be anything more than a continuation of the White House’s attempt to woo big business to Obama’s big government agenda, Immelt will provoke tea party activists.”

    http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-Immelt_012411.html

  278. A couple of misc comment snips I found:

    “But, if you can’t solve a $10 birth certificate question, how can you be expected to fix the economy?”
    [Oh DO spread this great meme]

    “It used be “George Washington slept here.” Now it’s Barack Obama was born here, and here, and here, and… ”
    [I need to haul out a graphics program for a global visual of this one lol]

    Back in 2008 I made a graphic for the Constitution using a *Missing* alert on a milk carton image. Complete with born in 1787, missing since Nov ’08, if found contact Obama, Supreme Court, Congress, FBI, etc. Need to make another one for the prez qualifications and birth cert.

    BigCatLover, who the hell cares what the complicit MSM and JournOListers think? They’ve been the guilty major players in the nonvetting & cover-up. We are in a serious Constitutional Crisis with Obama’s very real Eligibility Problem. Not only is it a national disgrace that it has went on this long, but a huge Sole Allegiance and National Security Issue. They will be forced to get his shriveled ballprints off their chins and face the music. The Problems have finally went main stream on main street, and we are not going to stop demanding answers or a full blown congressional investigation.

    Yesterday I had written a nice long comment in response to rgb44hrc’s question about Abercrombie knowing what HI laws are what. While retrieving a link for it I accidently X’d out this page tab, poof the whole comment gone. I’ll reconstruct it soon.

    Meanwhile… out at the outhouse, things are piling up. Abercrombie’s total charade has had another unintended consequence. It is dawning on more people than just Obots that they can’t squeal “but but but he DID release his birth certificate!” anymore. Why is Abercrap claiming he’s looking for the real deal then? And to watch them sputter when lots of people are pointing out that ex-Gov Lingle claims her Director saw it is just too funny for words. Desperate panic attacks all over the place.

  279. pm317 @ 9:29, thanks for putting up that important link to the Daily Pen. I had it in my disappeared comment yesterday. It lays out quite well in great detail how the HI Dem Party never qualified Obama to be on their ballot and all the other ugly particulars of the scam.

    On another forum I found this related info about Kevin Cronin, Chief Elections Officer (CEO) in Hawaii:

    http://hawaii.gov/elections/ec/docs/press-release_12-12-2007.pdf
    He ran afoul of Gov. Lingle in mid-2008 for using his authority in a possibly abusive manner. And, oh by the way, Cronin, Chief Elections Officer (CEO) in Hawaii, was not even a registered voter in Hawaii until July 2008, in violation of state law:

  280. Frmr Gov Ed Rendell calls Bob Casey “unassailable” in 2012 and will get Hillary to run in 2016:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/davidcatanese/0111/Rendell_to_MSNBC_declares_Casey_unassailable.html

    But Rendell’s love of politics means he’ll certainly remain in the mix of Democratic politics and said he would consider getting back involved if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were to run for president in 2016.

    And while she’s said publicly she won’t run for president again, he made clear he’ll encourage Clinton to rethink that statement.

    “In 2016, she’ll be young in terms of energy, I think she’s performed brilliantly as Secretary of State. I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that sh’ed be a terrific president. I think the time’s right for a woman president,” he said. “If I make a lot of money, and Hillary tries to run in 2016, I may become a participate in the process.”

    Closer to home, Rendell predicted that Sen. Bob Casey would cruise to a second-term in 2012, run a half a million votes ahead of President Obama and said there was no Republican in the Keystone state who could defeat him.

  281. I think Abercrombie hopes that people will buy the following line of thinking:

    1. Obama’s birth certificate “problem” is just a mundane housekeeping matter.

    2. But since you all BIRTHERS are all up in his face about him being an illegitimate president, I was hoping to find the smoking gun, the actual birth certificate.

    3. Since this is proving harder to do that I than, please refer to point (1) above.

  282. (Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme Jefferson)
    ———————————————-
    Remember: two years in complete control

    Marcus_Traianus Monday, January 24th at 12:16PM EST (link)
    With complete control of our government, Mr. Obama and Democrats chose ideology over equality. Those memories should serve as the real measure of any proclamations he now issues to preserve his own self interest.

    Some might say, “well- at least we are moving in the right direction”. Hardly, his moves are purely superficial and motives fraudulent.

    Would you really trust Mr. Obama with four more years in which he no longer has to face our country’s voters?

    A speech made without substance and conviction is called propaganda. It is but a means to an end.

    “Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

  283. This is a smack down of the anointed One…
    —-

    Barack Obama — Out of the Closet

    Wall Street’s takeover of the Obama administration is now complete. The mega-banks and their corporate allies control every economic policy position of consequence. Mr. Obama has moved rapidly since the November debacle to install business people where it counts most. Mr.William Daley from JP Morgan Chase as White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Gene Sperling from the Goldman Sachs payroll to be director of the National Economic Council. Eileen Rominger from Goldman Sachs named director of the SEC’s Investment Management division. Even the National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon, was executive vice president for law and policy at the disgraced Fannie Mae after serving as a corporate lobbyist with O’Melveny & Roberts. The keystone of the business friendly team was put in place on Friday. General Electric Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will serve as chair of the president’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. That is the spot, under a different council name, previously held by Paul Volcker. Both he and his post now will be airbrushed out of Obama administration history to align the past with the inglorious future.

    Mr. Obama last week obediently recited the Chamber of Commerce’s liturgy about governmental regulation being the cause of what ails the American economy in the pages of the Wall Street Journal. This public oath of allegiance signaled his now admitted complicity with those who supposedly had been his opponents. The one example of alleged bad regulation he cites in the WSJ op-ed is something about saccharin and the environment. The prospect of our corporate moguls being released from the bonds of saccharin regulation doubtless has China’s President Hu and his colleagues quaking in their well-tailored suits.

    Let’s make one thing perfectly clear. These actions were not imposed on Obama. They are not the inescapable outcome of political circumstances. He chose this path. It conforms to his behavior from the very start of his presidency. It was a newly-elected Obama who hand-picked Geithner and Summers. Who installed as his right-hand man Rahm Emanuel from the board of scandal-ridden Freddie Mac and deal-maker at Dresdner Kleinwort. Who declared at a press conference on the eve of his inauguration that he would not seek to repeal the Bush tax cuts but rather let them drain Treasury revenues until they expired, which of course he has conspired to prevent. Who met clandestinely with Big Pharma to cut a secret deal that ruled out the government’s bargaining on drug prices. Who met clandestinely with health industry giants to cut a secret deal that ruled out the public option.

    This is the same Obama who does not know the main provisions of the Social Security Act of 1935 — as evinced on repeated occasions. Who put Social Security and Medicare on the rack by rigging his deficit commission with the appointment of Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. The Obama who avowedly takes his inspiration from Ronald Reagan; who spent his holiday in Hawaii reading an account of how the Gipper’s White House office was run for him. The Obama who has reserved his harshest and heartfelt words for attacks on progressives. Political expediency is not the reason for turning his back on his supporters and on his pledges. After all, spurning his constituents and kowtowing to the entrenched interests led to the biggest off-year disaster in American electoral history. In short, all the evidence is that an old-school “moderate” Republican occupies the White House.

    So, what are liberals/progressives to do? They should begin by recognizing who they are and how they typically behave. Democrats generally see themselves as more “responsible” than Republicans. They worry about the consequences of their actions for the country, for our public institutions. They fret about being too assertive, about rupturing ties. Liberals are more “responsible” than conservative Democrats. They carry free-floating guilt for whatever goes wrong, or might go wrong. They hate the thought of hurting people. Self-labeled progressive Democrats are the kind of people that your mother wanted you to hang out with in high school — short of Canadian exchange students being available. Faced with passionate and unscrupulous enemies, they are confused and uncomprehending. Just as if they accidentally found themselves in the midst of a Saturday night bar room brawl. Such brutal faces; such tortured souls. They wonder how these people became so maladjusted; how sad that their families didn’t get the attention of a really good, caring social worker.

    Faced with betrayal, they freeze at pronouncing the word, of thinking the thought, of feeling the emotion. They are easy marks for the upscale con man with the high-minded rhetoric. They see taking offense as itself somehow offensive. They shy away from accusing, from denouncing. So when Mr. Obama spits in their face week after week, they are stunned into denial. Some declare: Our Saviour is also a rainmaker — a thousand blessings be upon him! Others turn the other cheek. A few instinctively reach for a handkerchief. The more imaginative suggest that he was really aiming at the Republicans, but he’s under such great stress that he lost his aim. The truly original believe that it’s all part of a clever strategy so ingenious that we poor mortals can’t conceive of it. Mysterious are the ways of Our Saviour.

    With relief they all reach for the ultimate non sequitur: “Think how much worse it would have been with McCain and Palin.” Frank Rich of the New York Times writes seven columns about the Palin coven for everyone saying anything bad about Obama. And never two in a row of the latter — that’s one emotional upheaval too far. It’s somehow “unfair.” The McCain-Palin line has come back in vogue as liberal/progressives turn their bloodshot eyes to 2012. The New Realism is to take our place dutifully behind Mr. Barack Obama as responsible people must. Responsible people should not even think of doing otherwise. For that means those awful (albeit maladjusted) right-wing fanatics will take over the country. Of course, we have a duty to tell Mr. Obama that we think he’s gone astray — in some respects. But not too loudly, not in a way that could hurt his feelings. We must remember that he is all that stands between us and the Tea Partiers. Oh my gosh!

    Meanwhile the hyenas across the aisle can barely contain their laughter. Just as they barely can keep a straight face as Barack Obama hides his unconditional surrender behind clichés about bipartisanship and compromise — while putting on a stern countenance and turning his sword (fierce rhetoric) against those unspeakable purists whom he has just sold out — lock, stock and barrel. It’s like watching the Serengeti drama of predator and prey, except that there is a bizarre lead actor who plays both roles. And the antelope keep expecting the protection of this hybrid who now prefers to idle with the fangs at the watering hole.

    What is to be done? Liberals’ hopes have been dashed. The outlook is bleak — only storm clouds on the horizon. Worse, our country’s afflictions are fated to get worse. The Wall Street plutocracy is in control — their power reinforced and reconfirmed. Their brothers in the business world are crowing. The poor are cut loose, middle America is squeezed, public services are under the knife. The country is in a time capsule hurtling crazily through the 1920s hell bent for the Gilded Age of the 1890s. We’ve lost; we’ve lost with barely a fight. We’ve lost again even when given the chance of a lifetime. All the pieces were in place to restore a decent society, to cast the discredited Republicans into political oblivion. A godsend became a curse. Our champion might as well be one of them. Deep down he is.

    Our one remaining hope is that the chaotic disintegration of the American political system goes even further. That out of this maelstrom emerges someone with the fire and honest conviction to shed a sharp light on our national predicament; to generate a sense of outrage. After all, the turmoil already has thrown up the improbable Sarah Palin and the improbable Barack Obama — the two figures who dominate our political life. Maybe, just maybe, a valiant soul is out there who is moved by more than his self promotion and self gratification.

    As for Mr. Obama, the time has come to send a blunt message: You want to stay in the White House until January 2017? Then satisfy us liberals or you’ll soon be finding out if Chicago is still your kind of town. And mean it.

    “The meek shall inherit the earth” says the Good Book. If that were true, liberals/progressives would be first in line. But when might that day of reckoning come?

    HuffPuff

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/barack-obama-out-of-the-c_b_813027.html

  284. Sorry if I bolded too much…maybe those that don’t need to put on their reading glasses will appreciate it. 😉

  285. I think bambi sewed his birth certificate into his mattress along with the billions of dollars he plans on pilfering from the treasury.

  286. tease? Megan Kelly reporting that Rahm may have been kicked off the ballot in Chicago…still researching the breaking story?

  287. Well I just got back from getting horse feed and gas. I put 74.00 worth of gas in the truck, all the gas station allows and it did not fill up my tank….Bush’s third term is upon us for real now. I also counted 10 for sale signs on the little ranches on the way to town.

    Things are looking pretty bleak!

    BTW, feed prices are soaring, the prices of horses are very low!

  288. They’ve taken Rahn off the ballot, how about removing an illegal Potus…I guess that doesn’t count, huh??

  289. Is anyone fact-checking Abercrombie about the bc? Haven’t some people been required to obtain the ‘long form’ or a certified copy, to get their driver’s license?

    Paging Fitch….

  290. Reported on the obot site too…

    Court rules that Rahm Emanuel not eligible to run for mayor of Chicago.

    ———-
    Rahm must be pist and will threaten guys in the shower today.
    Maybe his buddy in the Oval will pull some strings for him in Chicago, since Rahm wanting to be mayor there is probably part of the 2012 Scamathon.

  291. If a billion dollars of money is set to be raised by Obama, then nothing will happen on the birth certificate. They will bribe, blackmail and if necessary end the life of anyone who upsets their apple cart.

    The current battle betweeen Dimocrats and Republicans has little to do with the public good or the general welfare, as the Constitution and Jefferson respectively (supra) envisioned those concepts. Rather, it is essentially a battle between competing sets of economic interests. The Republican interests tend to be invested in the physical economy, meaning oil, real estate, small business and what little is left of manufacturing. Therefore, they tend to be centered in the United States. By contrast, the Dimocratic interests tend to be invested in the virtual economy of finance, high tech, entertainment, so called clean energy etc. Therefore, they tend to be global rather than national in reach.

    Obama is very much the darling of the global economic interests. This explains among other things why he was chosen, what he will do, and why they will destroy the country if necessary to protect him. These people pretend to be do-gooders but are in fact utterly ruthless. They are the epitome of the dark merchant of death Undershaft in Shaw’s play Major Barbara.

    Jeffrey Immelt is the head of General Electric. He is a confirmed globalist and has no use whatsoever for the American People. Rather, he wants to use government as a way to advance his economic interests, and if there was any doubt about his intentions, it was dispelled by his comment that the companies that do not build a partnership with government will be left behind. More specifically, he wants to build nuclear reactors, here, in China and throughout the rest of the world. The green economy is the euphemism. He has in mind 40 nuclear reactors in this country alone at a cost of $4 trillion, and he wants the taxpayers to finance it.

    Assuming argeuendo that nuclear power is the way to go, for environmental, economic and national defense reasons, and assuming further that taxpayers are to finance it, then the monetary profits should flow to the taxpayer, as opposed to Immelt. But as long as Obama is president those profits will go to Immelt–just as when he was a senator he protected Eccelon and a state senator Excelon just as Judas Iscariot would. That is the deal. And that is why Immelt used his media subsidiaries to savage Hillary and promote his golden calf Obama. It is also why he is been appointed head of the Council of Economic Advisors.

    The same is true of AOL Time Warner which directed fierce attacks against Hillary, through their outlets Time Magazine, Warner Industries, AOL misreporting and CNN. And ditto in the case of Westinghouse which owns CBS, and ABC which is now part of the Soros portfolio. These globalists have learned that if you control big media then you can control the public mind. For every intentional crime, there is a motive. Now you know what it is. The question is will the American People sit still for it because if they do, the Constitution will be defined into meaninglessness. This is why I hope there is at some point a populist revolt against the powers that be. On that issue I side with Jefferson.

  292. So if Rahm is court ordered out, does that mean that Carol Mosely Braum wins? Sounds like a page out of the ol’ BO playbook.

  293. wbboei
    January 24th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    exellent summary, you can add the AP on that list too, you should check out who sits on their board of directors, obots and globalists.

  294. Rahm’s not on the ballot anymore?

    Sounds like the Waffles machinary is in full gear to make sure they get one of their own on the ballot, especially with the ’12 elections comning up.

    Oh, I cannot stand Rahm, but that’s only slightly less than Waffles.

  295. So Rahm being cout ordered out must mean that ANY Senator, Rep, or anyone else working in the WH who has lived in D.C. for several years while representing their state is not a resident of that state?

    Is that correct?

  296. So Rahm being cout ordered out must mean that ANY Senator, Rep, or anyone else working in the WH who has lived in D.C. for several years while representing their state is not a resident of that state?

    ======================

    That could explain Pelosi flying home every weekend. 😉

    Might have something to do with Rahm actually renting out his house to someone else. Don’t most politicians leave their families at home?

  297. ten U.S. police officers shot in 24 hours…

    Tough times for men and women in blue

    As police in Florida prepared for the funeral of two Miami-Dade County police officers gunned down in the line of duty, shots rang out Monday in St. Petersburg, on the other side of the state. Two other officers fell dead and a federal marshal was wounded. Follow updates on CNN and affiliate WFTS-TV.

    On any given day, such violence against police officers would be disturbing. But the fatalities capped a particularly violent 24 hours in the United States for the men and women in blue. Ten police officers were shot.

    “It is a very disturbing trend for all of us,” said Hal Johnson, general counsel for the Florida Police Benevolent Association. “Florida has never seen a streak like this. I don’t think anybody has.”

    It is natural to search for answers, Johnson said, even if there aren’t any. The shootings do not appear to be related, and the motives may never be known. Declaring it to be open season against police officers seems dangerously simplistic, he added.

    He sees the shootings more as acts of desperation.

    “They are shooting at people they know have guns,” Johnson said. “I don’t know what’s going on out there, but I’ve never seen it like this. I do see the developing of a callousness. It’s almost as if shooting a police officer has lost its shock effect.”

    Consider:

    – On Sunday, four officers were shot in a Detroit police station by a man who walked in, firing randomly. Lamar Deshea Moore was shot to death by police so his motive may never be known, but local reports say a relative was awaiting sentencing for double murder. Two of the police officers remain hospitalized. For more, read CNN’s update and affiliate reports from the scene: WXYZ-TV, WISH-TV and WDIV-TV.

    – Two deputies were shot outside a Walmart in Port Orchard, Washington, near Seattle, on Sunday. Check out CNN, KIRO-TV and KOMO-TV for the latest updates.

    – A police officer is in a coma and in critical condition after being shot during a traffic stop early Sunday in Indianapolis. Check out WTHR-TV for updates.

    Although they do not appear to be related, the weekend shootings follow two other violent incidents last week involving police officers, including the Miami killings and a slaying in Lakewood, New Jersey.

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/24/tough-times-for-men-and-women-in-blue/?hpt=T2

  298. Well, something is sure up with Rahm. I don’t think he and Obama are buddies anymore. I think Rahm has asked for Bill Clinton’s help and this is not good.

    I don’t like Rahm either…I think he backstabbed Hillary in the beginning but maybe has begged for forgiveness!

    Things are just not right!

  299. Jan, I could not finish watching that video. That fucker Klein makes my blood crawl. Look at what he is saying, she has learnt the ropes, getting good at it, .. fuck him. How is Obama doing?

  300. Well this is MY KIND OF NEWS!!!!

    Clinton Friend Ed Rendell Is Ignoring Everything Hillary Has Said About 2016

    * 1/24/11 at 11:20 AM
    * Comment 3Comment 3Comments

    Clinton Friend Ed Rendell Is Ignoring Everything Hillary Has Said About 2016

    Photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images

    Former Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell has been close friends with Bill Clinton since serving as mayor of Philadelphia in the nineties during Clinton’s presidency and was one of Hillary Clinton’s most vocal backers in the 2008 Democratic primary. So it’s worth taking note when he talks about Hillary running for president in 2016.

    “In 2016, she’ll be young in terms of energy, I think she’s performed brilliantly as Secretary of State. I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that she’d be a terrific president. I think the time’s right for a woman president,” he said. “If I make a lot of money, and Hillary tries to run in 2016, I may become a participate in the process.”

    Apparently he isn’t quite convinced that Hillary is so done with politics forever. Maybe she needs to work on her “the mere suggestion that I will run again is patently ridiculous!” laugh.

  301. I knew it — 2012 has been kicked off at an obscene price of 1 billion dollars. The Abercrombie noise was to see how people will get riled up about the BC issue (and as I said before they can’t really run a poll on it, can they?). Did they get an answer? Repubs are not showing their hand.

  302. Wnder what all Rahm told Bill when he was there campaigning for him?

    You can bet that ol’ Rahm knows enough filth on BO to choke a maggot.

  303. Southern Born

    Wonder what all Rahm told Bill when he was there campaigning for him?

    You can bet that ol’ Rahm knows enough filth on BO to choke a maggot.
    ———

    And don’t forget that Blagos retrial is coming up. What is Rahm gonna do is he gave up his job in the WhiteHouse and now is a man without a office to run for?

    Rat on Barry Rahm!!!!

  304. tim
    January 23rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    pm317

    changing names is not that hard, you will have to contact the SS office once a judge has approved this, and then make sure all authorities at all levels are aware of this.
    &&&&&&&&

    Obama: “I’d like to change my name yet again, to Barack KanyeWest Obama”.

    SS Dept.: “Can you give me your SS card?”

    Obamma: “Hmmm, funny you should ask. My dog ate it. But you can look at it on mybarackobama.com. There’s a long list of really smart experts who have vouched for its authenticity.”

  305. I think the repubs want Obama in 2012′ and not Hillary…I think this is what happened with Nasty gathering support for Obama from the rethugs…afterall she said she wasn’t going to stay in that small office long….she has some inside info and so does Rahm. Obama has the rethugs and the justice system so he wins!

  306. Good news about Hillary and Rendell! I guess later is better than never!

    I will never forget that pic of Hillary on Drudge toasting HU….it was pretty interesting!lol

  307. What is exciting IS now that Obama is outright thumbing his nose at the American people. This IS the PERFECT TIME for Hillary to QUIT because of the damage Obama and his handpicked henchman are doing to the economy, America and the Middle East.

    I look forward to her handing in her resignation at any time NOW.

  308. Maybe this is the beginning of people coming out in support of Hillary. As many on this site have said before, even if she is adamant that she won’t enter the potus contest again, if enough of the party elite woo her, maybe it isn’t a lost cause.

  309. pm317
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    ————–
    Agreed. Both the commentator and the idiot were extremely sarcastic and patronizing in my opinion.

  310. re: Rahm…next it goes to the Illinois Supreme Court…imho, all depends on who appointed the judges on that court…

    and, who appointed the judges that voted 2-1 against Rahm…

    some here are posting as if they think O threw RE under the bus, my intuition says it is not so…i would think O & WH want rahm running things as the whole dnc and O re-election camp sets up in chicago as we speak…

    anyone here have knowledge on the judges?

  311. JanH
    January 24th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Maybe this is the beginning of people coming out in support of Hillary. As many on this site have said before, even if she is adamant that she won’t enter the potus contest again, if enough of the party elite woo her, maybe it isn’t a lost cause.
    __________________

    Obama is going to rue the day he tampered with Rahm’s mayoral bid. Of course he was behind getting Rahm dumped from the race. He needs a dolt order taker like Braun to follow his instructions. He realized having Rahm in the mayor’s seat would have been disasterous to his plans. (which we realized as well!) 🙂

    If his SOU Address tomorrow night is anything like the leaked previews, the country will be pushed to the brink of rebellion. If that happens, it will be the perfect time for Hillary to step down in a sign of unity with the people.. I’m hoping the timing is right and she is ready to make the break and roll.

  312. He is still plus 5.6% and the fools are falling for his act like 2008 all over again. He stole the Clinton play book -the very thing he so vehemnetly denounced during the primaries. Why are people so f– stupid that they still don’t get it?

  313. Mrs.Smith,
    I paid 2.94 for regular gas. I have a big 3/4 ton truck that I just put another dent in today going thru the fence to get to the barn to put up the horsefeed. Looks like I’ll have to buy a new truck. I sweated blood paying for the one I have, but with horses….you gotta have a truck. It looks like dent incorporated now…it was a beautiful one until my daughter hydroplaned at the custody hearing for her children. She was lucky she didn’t die and my dad with her in that wreck. Luckily my truck was the only thing that suffered. I drive it to work anyway…where I work a brand new truck would attract more deer than usual, LOL!

    I hope Hillary retired soon!

    Mrs. Smith you got any ideas on how to get a horse to quit pawing when she eats??? The Paint does this….her front foot is sore from doing it too. I guess I’ll have to call the Vet.

  314. I can’t see why the sheep are so stupid either….this transparency he was talking about during the primaries is his not caring whether some of us REALLY know what he is doing and that he is nothing but a puppet for the rethugs!

  315. BigCatLover
    January 23rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    Appearing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cantor refused to call people who question Obama’s citizenship “crazy,” saying it’s not nice to call anyone crazy.

    Cantor says he believes that Obama wants what’s best for the country and that there are honest disagreements over how to achieve that.
    *********************
    I happened to catch this moment in the show today and David Gregory was trying to bait Cantor into getting into the BC issue or dismissing the ‘birthers’ as crazy. He was actually yelling at Cantor. Cantor stayed calm and refused to take either bait. He actually handled himself very well, but Gregory looked like an ass. It was strange.

    ***********************************************************************

    bigcatlover…one of these days I would like to see the person being badgered by these so-called journalists, ie, O cheerleaders…turn the table on these hyped up journos…

    for example, Cantor could have calmly said, ‘David, calm down…take it easy…don’t get so excited…to answer your question David, I do not think that is a relevant issue and with our limited time let’s focus on issues that matter most to the American people”

    the person being interviewed needs to embarrass these journalists…otherwise the short tv time is wasted and the O spokesperson, er, journalist, gets his soundbite

    next time “they” the journalists try to distract and badger with these issues, the interviewe needs to just turn the table on these people and take control of the topic being discussed…

    Cantor was looking at DG like he was having some kind of fit…you have to deflate them…Hillary used to just laugh at them…but for many of them, it takes more than a laugh, they need to be cut down and embarrassed and exposed for the biased cheerleaders they are…

  316. confloyd

    I think the repubs want Obama in 2012′ and not Hillary…I think this is what happened with Nasty gathering support for Obama from the rethugs…afterall she said she wasn’t going to stay in that small office long….she has some inside info and so does Rahm. Obama has the rethugs and the justice system so he wins!

    ——-
    Of course the Rethugs would rather run against BarryBoy than Hillary…….anyone rather than Hillary. They know they can’t beat her!!

    I wonder if Barry promised Nasty the VP spot if he cheats ‘wins’ in 2012?
    Some bribe changed her tune.
    She would love to be the first Female VP.

  317. Shadowfax,
    He promised her something….she had him over the barrel! She said it for the world to hear that she would not be in her present office long.

    Still4Hill blog has that pic I was talking about of Hillary, its the 4th one down. Hillary does look beautiful in her gown. She has way better taste that MaryTylerMooreObama aka MO.

  318. @S: the person being interviewed needs to embarrass these journalists
    ———–

    Obama routinely did that, embarrass and deflate with the journolisters interviewing him even when they asked him legitimate questions. Why can’t others do the same?

  319. RAHM EMANUEL EJECTED FROM MAYORAL RACE

    Seems that some courts take that whole “residency” and “eligibility” thing seriously.

    suntimes.com/3469419-417/ballot-booted-court-emanuel-rahm.html

    ‘We will prevail,’ Emanuel says after court boots him off ballot
    ====================

    BY ABDON M. PALLASCH AND FRAN SPIELMAN Staff Reporters Jan 24, 2011 03:58PM

    Rahm Emanuel was thrown off the ballot for mayor of Chicago Monday by an appellate court panel, a stunning blow to the fund-raising leader in the race.

    An appellate panel ruled 2-1 that Emanuel did not meet the residency standard to run for mayor.

    Appellate justices Thomas Hoffman and Shelvin Louise Marie Hall ruled against Emanuel. Justice Bertina Lampkin voted in favor of keeping President Obama’s former chief of staff on the Feb. 22 ballot.

    Emanuel, speaking to reporters at The Berghoff in the Loop, said he is confident he will win an appeal and return to the ballot.

    “I have no doubt at the end we will prevail,” Emanuel said. “As my father has said, nothing is ever easy.”

    The Emanuel campaign sent out a text to its supporters asking them to assemble at 5 p.m. at Dearborn and Washington to “rally for Rahm’s right to be on the ballot and let Chicagoans choose.”

    Emanuel argued that leaving Chicago to serve the president should count as serving the country — and allow him to retain his Chicago residency despite spending two years serving Obama in Washington, D.C.

    Emanuel’s attorneys are expected to use Lampkin’s dissenting opinion to appeal the case to the Illinois Supreme Court.

    In Monday’s ruling, Hoffman wrote: “We … order that the candidate’s name be excluded (or if, necessary, be removed) from the ballot.”

    Chicago’s bar associations have always rated Justice Hoffman as one of the most knowledgeable judges on the appellate court. He has published numerous books and other judges often cite his opinions.

    He dominated the questioning at oral arguments Wednesday, pressing Emanuel’s attorneys hard on whether Emanuel could really “dwell conceptually” in a house he could not enter.

    Emanuel had won two previous rulings — before the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners and a Cook County judge. The case was appealed to the appellate court, which handed down the ruling before noon Monday.

    Opponents have argued Emanuel is not a resident of Chicago because he rented out his North Side home while serving as chief of staff to Obama. The renter — Rob Halpin — refused to allow Emanuel to move back in after Mayor Daley’s announcement last year that he would not seek re-election. Halpin briefly ran for mayor himself.

    Burt Odelson, the attorney who led the charge to throw Emanuel off the ballot, said the appellate court appears to have adopted all of his arguments that the state municipal code requires candidates for mayor in Illinois to reside within the town in which they’re running for a year prior to Election Day.

    Emanuel’s attorneys had argued state election code, which covers eligibility to vote, should also count toward eligibility to run for mayor. However, Justice Hoffman wrote: “neither the [election] board nor the party have, however, referred us to any Supreme Court opinion ratifying, adopting or directly addressing this approach.”

    Emanuel attorney Mike Kasper said he would file an appeal with the state Supreme Court either Monday or Tuesday. He said having the one dissenting opinion from Justice Lampkin should help his cause.

    Odelson noted that the Supreme Court may decide that Hoffman so thoroughly addressed the legal issues in his opinion, that the Supreme Court may not even take the case.

    However, Odelson said he may not oppose Kasper’s request to have the Supreme Court hear the case because this is an important enough issue that the state’s highest court should probably weigh in.

    Emanuel’s opponents in the race —including Gery Chico, Carol Moseley Braun and Patricia Van Pelt-Watkins — quickly scheduled afternoon news conferences to react to the news.

    Chico has taken pains to steer clear of the residency challenge and publicly support Emanuel’s right to run for mayor. He did the same after Monday’s ruling.

    After a lunch hour fund-raiser at Moe’s Cantina in River North, Chico said that the appellate court’s decision to boot Emmanuel from the ballot did not change anything about his campaign.

    “I was as surprised as anyone today to hear about the decision of the appellate court. I have believed in ballot access. I have never challenged anyone before.”

    “We will continue vigorously with our campaign with or without Rahm Emanuel.”

    Chico said he was “agnostic” about the court’s decision. He sidestepped a question about whether he was not the front runner.

    “I mean I’m running,” he said. “I’m trying to get every vote I can from everybody in this city.”

    Would you ask Rahm for his support if he doesn’t get back on the ballot?

    “I’d love his support.

    Mayoral hopeful Miguel Del Valle, in a statement, brought up the $11.7 million that Emanuel has collected to bankroll a mayoral campaign that has now been thrust into legal limbo.

    “It looked like money was going to decide this election,” del Valle said. “The voters now have a rare opportunity to shape this city’s future.”

    In an interview, del Valle, the current City Clerk, said he expects the Supreme Court to take the case, overturn the Appellate Court ruling and put Emanuel back on the ballot where he belongs.

    But he said, “The political effect of this decision is that some of the voters out there who thought this election was a foregone conclusion will now take a first or second look at the other candidates. That‚s good for Chicago.

    “Rahm Emanuel has amassed an obscene amount of money and it’s not right. Gery Chico’s fundraising from individuals doing business with the city is not right. . . .This election should be decided by people in the neighborhoods, not by multi-millionaires —both in Chicago and out of state —who thought they had already bought this election.”

    If Chico inherits much of Emanuel’s support, pressure would intensify for del Valle to drop out of the race. But the retiring City Clerk bristled at the suggestion that he should throw his support to Chico, the only other Hispanic in the race.

    “I am a candidate who has a lot to offer. Why should [I]? It never crossed my mind. Not at all,” del Valle said. “This election is a wonderful opportunity to present voters with real choices. Why would I deny [them] that? That’s why I thought the residency issue was a distraction and that voters should have choices, including Rahm Emanuel.”

    The Board of Elections has not yet printed up the ballot.

    Odelson said Board of Elections attorney Jim Scanlon told him that as of this moment, Emanuel’s name would stay off the ballot.

    Emanuel’s attorneys will likely ask for a “stay” of the order Monday or Tuesday. If that is granted, Emanuel’s name could go back on the ballot.

    Ald. Pat O’Connor (40th), Daley’s City Council floor leader, is among a handful of North Side ward bosses firmly in Emanuel’s camp. If the Supreme Court affirms Monday’s ruling or takes a pass, O’Connor would be like a man without a country.

    “It puts me where I’ve always been. I’ve supported Rahm since he announced. I’ll support him until it’s determined he can no longer be a mayoral candidate,” O’Connor said.

    Pressed to identify his second choice, O’Connor said, “I wouldn’t even speculate on that. I’m hoping he’s on the ballot and it works out. If not, we’ll reassess and see who’ll have us. If the polls are correct, Gery Chico and Carol Moseley Braun are pretty close. I don’t know who would become the frontrunner. But, I’m not quite certain I’m giving up on our current frontrunner.”

    Another ward boss, who asked to remain anonymous, predicted that Chico would be the “primary beneficiary” if Emanuel is knocked off the ballot.

    “If you were for Rahm, he’s kind of a business-like person who can get things done. Gery is a similar personality. He’s more like Rahm than Carol is like Rahm. More people in Rahm’s camp would default to him than to Carol,” the committeeman said.

    The news also shocked voters who planned to vote for Emanuel.

    “I think it’s absolutely absurd,” said Megan Weidenhammer, 27, a paralegal who lives in Uptown. “If you are a public servant and you are in

    Washington and you are supporting the citizens of the country than it’s outrageous that you would be thrown off of a local election when you come back to do great things for your own city.”

    Who are you going to vote for now?

    “I really feel I’ll vote for Rahm.”

  320. I go out for a few hours and all hell breaks loose…so Bambi set his dogs off on Rahm finally…like we didnt expect that to happen, did the same thing to all his previous opponents had them knocked off the ballot….its classic Obama tactics.

  321. Tells you all you need to know how fixed this is……………….the racists and special Obama Goon squad want him out of the way.

    CHICAGO (AP) – Election officials say they’ll start printing ballots for Chicago’s mayoral race without Rahm Emanuel’s name on them.

  322. just saw the intro for tonight’s hardball intro…ready for this…

    chris matthews saying Eric Canter refuses to call birhters crazy and they show eric cantor’s face…

    so easy to see what is happening here and coming…david gregory is there to “set-up’ eric cantor on MTP and bring in the distraction ‘birther’ issue, “the crazies”…Canter won’t take the bait…

    …but here comes MSNBC and Matthews is going to do a segment and make it an issue anyway…there will be ‘creative editing’ – they are going to make it the issue (remember hillary did not call O a muslim on 60 minutes, but Chris Matthews heard her call O a muslim and insisted she did…and that went on for days implying and debating that Hill called O a muslim … and then later Hill called for his assassination)

    so damn corrupt…they are such liars…ugh! Chris Matthews is so disgusting…they go on about the other side and continue to instigate and create hate themselves…

    matthews trying to say O is to the left of Clinton and will be presenting a progressive agenda…omg…on the same day O is idolizing reagan in an op ed…what media prositutes these people are…

    with Alterman and Heinmann hookers salivating…heinman (sp) with his NY mag puff piece…
    Chris Matthews saying that O is the “New Democrat” – they even have to laugh…so over the top BS…Matthews is getting big thrills up his legs today

    msnbc is fanning the flames like crazy…sickos!

    did they ever listen to Shultz?

    this reminds me so much of how they set up Hillary day after day, all day long, during the primaries…

    MSNBC wants to take out the right and Bill Clinton at the same time…nothing can compare to O…O is the best…(O can steal Bill’s ideas but O is still better)

    get ready for the new ‘sputnik’ movement…”innovation nation”…here comes the buzz words ad nauseum…

    Matthews says DG did a good job and like trying to pull teeth to get these people to call birthers crazy…

    msnbc is the worst of all … i do hope comcast comes in and cleans house over there…they really need a “fairness doctrine” at that outlet…

  323. moononpluto
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Tells you all you need to know how fixed this is……………….the racists and special Obama Goon squad want him out of the way.

    CHICAGO (AP) – Election officials say they’ll start printing ballots for Chicago’s mayoral race without Rahm Emanuel’s name on them.
    _________________

    When does the election come about?

  324. Breaking News:

    (From a radio interview) Mike Evans, of Hollywood Reporter, has been a friend of Gov. Abercrombie’s for “decades”. Evans spoke to him yesterday. “Neil and I spent a lot of time together during Obama’s Inauguration. He promised me that he when he became Governor, he was going to cut thru all the BS and find absolute proof that “Barry” was born in Hawaii. Well, I spoke to him YESTERDAY and Abercrombie told me “He searched everywhere using his powers as governor, and… There is NO Barack Obama Birth Certificate in Hawaii … absolutely no proof at all that Obama was born in Hawaii”.

  325. moononpluto @ 6:16 pm

    There is a critical error in some of those reports about Mike Evans. Evans said this on air on Jan. 20th, reporting a conversation he had with Abercrombie on Jan. 19th. That was TWO DAYS before Hawaii announced suspension of Abercrombie’s search for the birth certificate.

    So this is indeed a significant development.

    TD Blog has an accurate write up:

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/uh-oh-two-days-before-gov-abercrombie-announced-publicly-that-hes-quit-searching-for-obamas-birth-certificate-abercrombies-decades-long-friend-mike-evans-states-on-the-radio-that-abercrombi/

  326. Moon,
    So now what happens…is this going to make national news or is Chrissy Mathews going to cover it up again. This is so disgusting!

  327. Emanuel campaign files emergency motion with Illinois Supreme Court to stay appeals court ruling knocking him off ballot.

  328. I think this is a new incarnation of the old ‘racist’ strategy. They are baiting people to go ‘crazy’ about the BC so they can get sympathy from their base and others. Wow, these guys are evil. They don’t have the skill or the talent to govern a country but want to hold on to the office any which way they can. Who said this was democracy? Where is the outrage at the media and the Dims? Hope it will come soon.

  329. pm317…I still just dont understand why he just cannot hand over his full length BC and end it all, why is the media just not expressing this..close the issue final…..it just beggars belief.

    The House should pass a resolution requiring that for all future elections, documents of all nominees must be handed over to the house judiciary committee for confirmation. If not, put all Rep Govs and Rep legeslatures to pass a state level resolution doing the same in place for the 2012 election.

    Its simple, it covers all nominees.

  330. “what media prositutes these people are…”

    don’t forget that photo of Waffles in a turban that Tingles went after Hillary for. “media whores” is probably a most accurate description of the scum in the lame Obot media.

    As for the BC item, people are fed up, the so called “journalists” are now openly and unabashedly acting as defenders of the Waffles admin. than defenders of the American people.

  331. moononpluto
    January 24th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    pm317…I still just dont understand why he just cannot hand over his full length BC and end it all, why is the media just not expressing this..close the issue final…..it just beggars belief.
    ——————–

    My thinking is that they have the BC (fake?) ready but want to rev up the opposition to make them look silly and garner sympathy from the base.

  332. Mrs. Smith you got any ideas on how to get a horse to quit pawing when she eats??? The Paint does this….her front foot is sore from doing it too. I guess I’ll have to call the Vet.
    ____________________

    Not the Vet, a good blacksmith. Pawing on the ground is a sign of anxiety, nervousness etc. Feel both front hooves. If one has heat in it she could have an abscess or something penetrating her frog. Hard to say without looking… or it could be just a habit she’s developed because she’s excited at getting fed. The main thing is ruling out a serious problem like Lyme disease or an abcess. Your blacksmith is your best bet.

  333. Thankyou, I never had no that pawed so much she hurt her own foot, but this has. She was very thin when I bought her and now she is fat, so you right about excitement over eating, LOL! I might buy them close to dying of starvation, but I somehow manage to fatten everything up around here including myself. I still on my diet though down 45 lbs.

    I just hope something breaks soon, the stock market over 12,000 today….WHY? Unemployment is still skyrocketing….it just doesn’t make sense to me! I hope this BC issue is not just another ploy to keep the masses occupied while they continue to rob us of our country.

  334. Mr. Me too after Palin wrote her piece for the USA Today — from the memeorandum site. I like how she is unfazed by what they throw at her.

    ———————
    Barack Obama / USA Today:
    Reagan saw that ‘we are all patriots’ — Ronald Wilson Reagan was a believer. As a husband, a father, an entertainer, a governor and a president, he recognized that each of us has the power — as individuals and as a nation — to shape our own destiny. He had faith in the American promise …

    Discussion: Weasel Zippers, The Politico, Liberty Pundits Blog, CNN, Pajamas Media, msnbc.com, Don Surber and Shakesville

    RELATED:
    Sarah Palin / USA Today:
    ‘America’s lifeguard’

    Discussion: Cubachi, Hot Air, No More Mister Nice Blog, Conservatives4Palin, Le·gal In·sur·rec· tion and HillBuzz.org

  335. Mrs. Smith,
    She’s 3 and half. She almost died with Strangles before I bought her, but it popped and she got well.

  336. She’s a beautiful registered Paint. Black and White with a medicine hate…extremely rare, but a Tobiano.

  337. I had a person say on FB a few minutes ago that Palin has thrown in with the Dems and separated herself from the Tea Party…where do people get this ideas???

  338. I just hope something breaks soon, the stock market over 12,000 today….WHY? Unemployment is still skyrocketing..
    ***********
    Corporate profits are doing well and there is a high correlation between profits and reduced labor costs. Making America competitive means high un/under employment and driving down labor costs. In the US, temporary workers and “contract” workers are the trend, no contract, no job security, no benefits. The Country is moving back to the employment model of 1874-1933; Laissez faire and social Darwinism. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for the bottom 99% of Americans with business trying to return to that economic model.

    I suspect that as wadges and living standards decline and with rising energy costs over the next decade, low wadge jobs will be moving back to the US; not a very bright future.

  339. She’s 3 and half. She almost died with Strangles before I bought her, but it popped and she got well.
    __________________

    stangles from shipping fever. Where was she foaled?

  340. Christ, can you think of anything worse and no I am not joking.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/139677-movement-underway-to-draft-olbermann-for-senate-

    Liberals trying to draft Keith Olbermann for Joe Lieberman’s Senate seat

    Liberals want Keith Olbermann to run for retiring Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman’s (I-Conn.) seat.

    The ploy to coax the former MSNBC host into the Democratic Senate primary was hatched by activists attending a conference in Pennsylvania over the weekend.

    Facebook and Twitter pages are already active and a website is expected to go up in the coming days.

    “We’re using our full set of campaign tools but they won’t go active until we get a little downtime while we’re in D.C.,” a blogger by the name of Stranded Wind wrote on the liberal website Daily Kos.

    Olbermann left his show “Countdown” on Friday. He revealed over the weekend that he would return to his blog on MLB.com, Baseball Nerd, but has remained quiet about any other plans.

    Should Olbermann decide to forgo a return to television, he could be eligible to run for Lieberman’s seat, Stranded Wind notes. “He used to live in Connecticut and could easily return and establish residency.”

    Olbermann was suspended from his job for two days after the 2010 election for making donations to Arizona Democrats Reps. Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords, and to Kentucky Senate candidate Jack Conway (D).

    Lieberman announced last Wednesday he would not see reelection in 2012. Rep. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) has already entered the race for the Democratic nomination.

  341. Bill O keeps talking about Haiti and how things are not better there and the key words you hear are: money, disappeared, fraud…BILL CLINTON.

  342. OK.. here’s an update on Rahms’ situation.

    “Chicago elections officials said today they “have to” begin printing the 2 million election ballots needed for the election ans well as preparing electronic voting machines for early voting that begins next Monday.”

    Voting day is Feb 22nd.

  343. Mrs Smith…now dont you find it funny that they boot Rahm off just as they are starting to print ballots, i wonder who dreamt up that tactic.

  344. Southern Born
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
    Bill O keeps talking about Haiti and how things are not better there and the key words you hear are: money, disappeared, fraud…BILL CLINTON.
    __________________

    Bill must have funneled the money somehow into his pocket. He relly needs it- O’Reilly, that is- slumping book sales.

  345. BigCatLover, who the hell cares what the complicit MSM and JournOListers think? They’ve been the guilty major players in the nonvetting & cover-up. We are in a serious Constitutional Crisis with Obama’s very real Eligibility Problem. Not only is it a national disgrace that it has went on this long, but a huge Sole Allegiance and National Security Issue. They will be forced to get his shriveled ballprints off their chins and face the music. The Problems have finally went main stream on main street, and we are not going to stop demanding answers or a full blown congressional investigation.
    **********************
    Shez ZK, what is this an overreaction to??? Can’t find anything I said that implies I care what the mainstream media thinks and that I support Obama in this particular fraud.

  346. confloyd
    January 24th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    She’s a beautiful registered Paint. Black and White with a medicine hate…extremely rare, but a Tobiano.
    ******************
    what is a medicine hat?

  347. Yes, indeed, Mrs. Smith…probably funneling the money right into the pocket of one of those ugly black jackets he keeps trying to sell every night along with his books.

    Oh, please let that be right about his book sales slumping big time. Hopefully we will then never be assaulted with any more of them…oh please!

  348. Liberals trying to draft Keith Olbermann for Joe Lieberman’s Senate seat

    Correction:

    Liberals OBOTS are trying to draft Keith Olbermann for Joe Lieberman’s Senate seat.

    There is a HUGE difference.

    Obots supporting Keefie are sexist a##holes.

  349. Oh whoops, I really forgot to close some strikes………….I have been having trouble with these keys all day, I think I will lurk for awhile.

    Sorry…again.

  350. RAHM EMANUEL EJECTED FROM MAYORAL RACE

    Seems that some courts take that whole “residency” and “eligibility” thing seriously.

    suntimes.com/3469419-417/ballot-booted-court-emanuel-rahm.html

    ‘We will prevail,’ Emanuel says after court boots him off ballot
    ——————-
    No. Trust me. This is rigged. I am rooting for Emanuel. As bad as he is, he is far better than the alternative. That is why BC campaigned for him.

  351. wbboei
    Let me be a little naive here. Is Rahm so under the bus with Obama/WH that they would fix this against him? What if he spills what he knows about them.

  352. If there was a legit BC it would have been released by now. He is either not eligible or there is something on it they don’t want us to see. Even with all their hubris I think they are nervous about releasing a fake long form. They will keep kicking the can down the road, calling “birthers”crazy or racists or both.

  353. Emanuel campaign files emergency motion with Illinois Supreme Court to stay appeals court ruling knocking him off ballot.
    ————————
    A former US Attorney I know brought an action against a major newspaper for libel. He was a public figure at the time the libel occurred. Therefore, he had to prove more than mere libel. He had to prove that it was committed with reckless disregard for the truth, pursuant to the elevated standard of New York Times vs. Sullivan USSC (1964). He was awarded one million dollars in damages against the newspaper. Whereupon, the decision was appealed, and his enemies brought in two judges on a three judge panel who were political opponents and he lost. Whereupon, he appealed to the Supreme Court of that State and the appellate court decision was set aside and the district court decision was reinstated. He was also the chairman of the judicial discipline committee for that state. Anyone who believes courts simply follow the law is naiive. Obviously, the goal is to have a government of laws not men, but when men are the administators of the law self interest and ego become a factor. The famous mid century San Francisco trial lawyer Jake Erlich once said you can bribe one man out of 100 with gold, but most of the remaining 99 will be motivated by other less obvious forms of self interest, such as friendships, etc.

  354. Ooops sorry BigCatLover! Nothing personal, my apologies on how it came off. My rant wasn’t directed at you, it was meant to be in general, inspired by your great points and questions you made. I have followed many extra links and blogs today and am extra disgusted with the lame media. I love your comments.

  355. More on what Jeff Immelt is doing to undermine the United States. He has much in common with Soros–globalist, predator, and last but surely not least, Obama advisor and underwriter . . . . Bear in mind, years ago when the foundations were being laid for globalization, and we were being urged by prominent economists like Lestor Thurow to toward a new economy. to cast off old industries (just like Immelt’s mentor Jack Welch was doing) but to keep a tight hold on the high value industries like airplanes, autos, etc. which could support high wages, I was extremely skeptical. And now of course we see the result . . . .
    ———————————–
    GE wants to sell US jet engine technology to Chicoms
    IBD:

    During the visit of China’s president, and as China’s new stealth fighter takes to the sky, America’s top jet engine manufacturer agrees to provide Beijing with state-of-the-art aircraft technology.

    The aircraft industry remains one of America’s strongest manufacturing sectors, providing needed jobs and industrial sales. Already buffeted by the heavily subsidized European Airbus, it may also face stiffer competition one day from a Chinese behemoth buying what American technology it cannot steal.

    General Electric plans this week to sign a joint-venture agreement under which it will share its most sophisticated airplane electronics, including technology from Boeing’s 787 Dreamliner, with state-owned Aviation Industry Corp. of China, or Avic.

    The agreement will supply the Chinese Comac C919, which is challenging Boeing and Airbus in the market for single-aisle jets with more than 100 seats. The C919, expected to carry up to 200 passengers, is intended to compete with Boeing’s 737 and the Airbus 3200.

    Analysts don’t expect many sales outside of China. But the deal provides the base for a Chinese commercial aircraft industry expected to eventually challenge Western giants. China has surprised many in its ability to compete with the West in many areas.


    It is hard to see what safe guards GE can put in the deal that will preclude the use of the technology in China’s military aircraft. Perhaps the smart thing for the US to do in the future is avoid use of GE engines.

  356. No. Trust me. This is rigged. I am rooting for Emanuel. As bad as he is, he is far better than the alternative. That is why BC campaigned for him.

    ——————-
    I agree. And given that he was at the top of the polling in Chicago as late as yesterday, I’m really wondering if Brauns and maybe a judge or two are in it up to their…

  357. crazy horse
    January 24th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    If there was a legit BC it would have been released by now. He is either not eligible or there is something on it they don’t want us to see. Even with all their hubris I think they are nervous about releasing a fake long form. They will keep kicking the can down the road, calling “birthers”crazy or racists or both.
    ———
    Yup, I agree.
    They are hiding something…and hiding his entire history.
    This should be against the law.

  358. There is a quick vote on CNN asking how you will watch obama’s state of the union (T.V. or online). So far, 54% are saying they won’t watch it at all. 🙂

  359. Still more on Immelt and his grand plan to build cover the country with nuclear reactors. Hillary said she questioned whether they were safe (infra) and she told the people of Ohio that if she became president she would make sure NAFTA was working for average Americans. Those two positions were unacceptable to the head of GE, Immelt–and that is why he was hell bent on eliminating her. She wanted to protect the public, whereas he wanted to protect his own nest. You will hear alot about green jobs produced by the building of nuclear plants. In the construction phase yes. It will be an undertaking equivalent to the building of Hoover Dam. But once they are built they will be automated, and very few jobs will be created in perpetuity. The downside risk is evident, if you read the link below. I was in Hanford a few months back meeting with the man who organized the place for the OCAW union, which is now part of the Steelworkers. Bechtal is the big name in the field now. They began as a small lab in Columbus Ohio, and were given the job of solving the problem zerox was having with their ink. They solved the problem and the head of zerox was so grateful that he wrote Bechtal into the will. That produced seed money for them to set up shop in Hanford, and from there they expanded to Los Alamos, Oak Ridge, and most recently to the Idaho National Laboratory in Twin Falls. That is now the epicenter of our nuclear power industry, and they are a fine company. However, safety remains an issue. Nuclear safety did not matter to Obama when he gave contributor Excelon a pass when they spilled nuclear waste into drinking water. Nor does it matter at all to Immelt. Bear this in mind when you hear the State of The Union Address. The promises he makes to us are just words. The promises he makes to Immelt and Soros are real, and those promises he will act on.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014001657_hanford23m.html

  360. Correction: I meant Battelle, not Bechtel. Bechtel is a construction company which has done a lot of work around the world and his tied in the the CIA. Battelle is a testing lab, with more PHDs per square inch than any company in the world. Like Battelle however they are very secretive. Given what they are dealing with that makes sense.

  361. Yes I know about Battelle on the west outskirts of Columbus. The road outside Battelle was closed down once when I was near there and I had to go miles out of my way to get around there. But didn’t see anything in the local news about it.

  362. TRENDING: Emanuel files papers for a stay

    By: CNN Political Unit
    (CNN) – Chicago mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel’s team filed papers Monday night with the Illinois Supreme court to request a stay to allow ballots to be printed with Emanuel’s name on them, according to the court.
    A Democratic source aware of the developments says the Emanuel campaign will file a petition with the state Supreme court on Tuesday asking for a leave which would then allow time to appeal. Wednesday the team would file the actual appeal and brief, which may be followed by a response from the Chicago Board of Elections on Friday.

    Early voting is scheduled to begin on Monday, January 31, but according to the source, the state supreme court can delay early voting.
    The Chicago Board of Elections on Monday placed an order for the printing of two million ballots without Rahm Emanuel’s name on them.
    During a press conference following the Illinois appeals court decision, Emanuel emphasized his conviction to stay in the Chicago mayoral race.
    “I have no doubt we will in the end prevail in this effort,” Emanuel said. “As my father used to say, nothing is ever easy in life, this is just one turn in the road.”
    Emanuel was thrown off the ballot Monday by an Illinois appellate court panel, according to the Cook County Appellate Court’s office.
    The panel ruled 2-1 that Emanuel did not meet the residency standard to run for the city’s top office.
    “A candidate must meet not only the Election Code’s voter residency standard, but also must have actually resided within the municipality for one year prior to the election, a qualification that the candidate unquestionably does not satisfy,” the court stated in the decision.
    Emanuel was considered the front runner to replace outgoing Chicago Mayor Richard Daley in the February 22nd election.
    In December, the Chicago Board of Elections determined he was a resident, but that decision was appealed. Emanuel served as President Barack Obama’s chief of staff, a position he left last year to return to Chicago.
    Emanuel is expected to appeal the decision to the Illinois Supreme Court, and a federal appeal could follow.
    According to a recent Chicago Tribune/WGN survey, 44 percent of the city’s voters backed Emanuel, 21 percent backed former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun and 16 percent backed former Chicago Board of Education president Gery Chico. City Clerk Miguel del Valle received seven percent and nine percent remained undecided.
    The source close to the Emanuel campaign told CNN his legal team anticipated there was a chance the court would rule against them and they have an emergency appeal already written.
    Moseley Braun is expected to make a statement at 3:30 p.m. ET Monday.
    – CNN National Political Corres

  363. Doesn’t get any better than this
    **************

    BREAKING NEWS: New York Magazine Discovers That Obama Holds High Opinion of Himself, Is In Over His Head
    —Ace

    I think there’s an old saying about a horse that can perform basic mathematics — you are amazed not that the horse is good at math (it isn’t) but that it can do some math at all.

    Similarly, the MFM — two and a half years late to the game, but amazing even a few of them showed up for it at all.

    In the third of Rouse’s baskets was the failure to use Obama’s gifts as a communicator to full effect. He was overexposed. He was in the weeds. The thread got lost. “With these big legislative fights, he was almost like a prime minister or negotiator-in-chief,” says the same official. “The price for that was, we lost the vision, the inspiration.”
    Though Obama grasped this last critique, he dismissed the charges of aloofness and insularity. When business complained that he was hostile, he cited all the times he had invited CEOs to the White House. When donors moaned about the fact that at the first year’s Christmas parties, he had done away with the tradition of taking pictures with the guests, Obama scoffed, “Big deal, they’ve all got pictures of me before.”

    Emanuel’s ad-hocracy, meanwhile, didn’t faze Obama. The president’s friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett sometimes pointed out that not only had he never managed an operation, he’d never really had a nine-to-five job in his life. Obama didn’t know what he didn’t know, yet his self-confidence was so stratospheric that once, in the context of thinking about Emanuel’s replacement, he remarked in all seriousness, “You know, I’d make a good chief of staff.”

    Those overhearing the comment somehow managed to suppress their laughter.

  364. Nuclear safety did not matter to Obama when he gave contributor Excelon a pass when they spilled nuclear waste into drinking water.
    *********
    Or renewing 20 year operating permits for !st generation nuclear power plants that were do to be decommissioned because they had reached end of life.

  365. AP sources: Browner leaving as Obama adviser

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s top adviser on energy and climate matters is stepping down, two White House officials confirmed Monday. The departure of Carol Browner underscores that there will be no major White House push on climate change, given that such efforts have little chance of succeeding on Capitol Hill.

    Browner, a former Environmental Protection Agency administrator under President Bill Clinton, will be leaving the White House just as Republicans in Congress prepare to take on the Obama administration over global warming and the administration’s response to the massive Gulf oil spill.

    Browner successfully helped negotiate a deal with automakers boosting federal fuel economy standards and requiring the first-ever greenhouse gas emissions standards for vehicles. She also pushed for billions of dollars for renewable energy in the economic stimulus bill.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/24/AR2011012406808.html

  366. Lets lay the blame of the proposed onslaught of building nuclear reactors worldwide not so much at GE but where it belongs- squarely at the feet of the man pushing the building of nuclear reactors for the last 10 years.

    Cheney is the nuclear reactor KINGPIN. I’ll never forget when Bush took office, the first thing Cheney said was they intend on building one nuclear reactor a month in the US. (clean energy)

    Since a method for the safe disposal of spent nuclear waste has not been found yet, (and never will be) environmentalists rightfully so, screamed bloody murder. The number of Children dying in the same families one after another from Leukemia, living within a 200 mi radius of Yucca Mountain, were found to have high levels of pcbs in their blood streams caused from radiation leeching into their drinking water sourced from deep underground water tributaries nearby Yucca Mountain.

    Nuclear reactors are a Republican/Neocon agenda in line with the Oil pipeline Trusts begun 100 yrs ago with Standard Oil, the reason we are dutifully searching for fossil fuel alternatives today. So now, Cheney and his ilk have found a broker, Obama, to do their dirty work for them poisoning the planet earth killing every living creature in water and on land lining their bottomless pockets with more money as Tax Payer money subsidize this doomsday scenario..

    There were 1,230,000 hits @ Google targeting Cheney’s ambition for killing more humans because the Gulf War and thousands of dead troops didn’t make enough money for him with his Halliburton logistics enterprise.

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=Cheney+nuclear+reactors&cp=22&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Cheney+nuclear+reactors&pbx=1&fp=2d73bcec2e6e3c54

  367. moononpluto
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Mrs Smith…now dont you find it funny that they boot Rahm off just as they are starting to print ballots, i wonder who dreamt up that tactic.
    ___________________

    Must be the same undaunted, confident, fella that suggested Murkowski do a write in campaign and had enough pull during the counting of votes. (mispellings not withstanding)

  368. Good morning all: Sorry to have been distracted from my usual activities on Hill44.time may cure my recent lack of participation in our fight for Hillary.Here is her schedule for today and I am wondering how many repub and Dims want to sit next to her tonight.There are not enough seats on the floor.

    Secretary Clinton will be at the State of the Union tonight:

    9:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the Assistant Secretaries, at the Department of State.

    10:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Spanish Foreign Minister Trinidad Jimenez, at the Department of State.

    12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton officiates at the Swearing-In Ceremony for Deputy Secretary Nides, at the Department of State.

    1:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Secretary of Defense Bob Gates and National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, at the White House.

    3:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Kazakhstan Foreign Minister Saudabayev, at the Department of State.

    9:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends President Obama’s State of the Union address, at the U.S. Capitol.

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  369. wait until after the midterms. Investigative committees being formed. The Republicans will begin investigations into Obama’s breaking campaign donations laws, disband dept czars, get rid of Holder, and pursue the criminal ties between him and Rezko hopefully leading to a threats of Impeachment and/or demanding his resignation.

    ps.. If you haven’t eaten breakfast yet- don’t, until after you read McCain’s sudden epiphany.
    _________________________

    McCain believes Obama has changed since campaign

    http://ktar.com/category/local-news-articles/20110124/McCain-believes-Obama-has-changed-since-campaign/

  370. JANUARY 25, 2011

    Drug Gangs Are Focus of Clinton’s Mexico

    By NICHOLAS CASEY

    MEXICO CITY—Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Mexico on Monday in her second stopover in less than a year, showing growing bilateral cooperation in the fight against organized crime, as drug violence cripples some Mexican cities.

    Mrs. Clinton’s visit also came as a Spanish newspaper released another set of cables about Mexico obtained by WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy group. The leaked documents highlighted some of the concerns that American officials have harbored about Mexico’s pursuit of organized-crime groups, including the nation’s lack of honest local police forces.

    Mrs. Clinton traveled to Mexico City and the central town of Guanajuato for meetings with Mexican President Felipe Calderón and Foreign Minister Patricia Espinoza. The State Department said the meetings focused on a range of issues, from collaboration against drug traffickers to immigration, economic strategy and the environment.

    But the battle against organized crime was expected to be the main topic of discussion.

    Under the Obama administration, Mexico’s importance in U.S. foreign relations has grown. More than 34,000 people have died in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006, many in cities that border the U.S. Relations between the two countries have been strained by a raft of proposed U.S. immigration laws that aim to identify, prosecute and deport illegal immigrants. And officials are trying to negotiate a deal to end a costly spat that has restricted Mexican truck drivers in the U.S.

    Andrew Selee, an expert on U.S.-Mexico relations at the Woodrow Wilson Center, said these kinds of high-level encounters are relatively new, a product of the two countries’ closer cooperation than in previous years. “There are lots of moving pieces now, from intelligence-sharing to borders and ports,” he said.

    The WikiLeaks cables show a close working relationship between the governments on trying to combat Mexico’s powerful organized crime. They also shed light on Washington’s frustration with Mexico’s strategy of using the military as the main tool against cartels instead of creating robust police forces.

    The cables, from El País, detailed a February 2010 meeting in which Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano pressed Mr. Calderón on progress in the border town of Ciudad Juárez.

    In a response to requests by Mr. Calderón for more assistance, Ms. Napolitano said the U.S. government could only “help identify the right organized-crime targets, but that Mexico must move beyond military deployments and establish a police capacity in Ciudad Juárez.” The city is Mexico’s most deadly, the site of roughly 3,100 deaths last year.

    In the discussion, Mr. Calderón admitted that the strategy of sending thousands of soldiers into the city in March 2009—a centerpiece of the president’s national strategy—hadn’t worked as planned because “crime exploded as kids fought each other on the street to control drug trade.” The result led the president to remove patrols from the center of the city. He also cast doubt on future deployments of the military in other locations “in fear that they will be corrupted,” according to the cables.

    The cables also mention a troubled situation at Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala, another key smuggling point. Mr. Calderón and Ms. Napolitano agreed that region’s jungles made security difficult. Instead, Mexico has focused on setting up “choke points” to try to catch traffickers after they have already arrived in the country, the cables said.

    The region is home to a group known as Los Zetas, who authorities said killed a group of 72 immigrants, including many Central Americans, headed to the U.S. last year.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703555804576102530044313602.html

  371. I can think of one reason I might watch SOTU and that would be to see how many Dems stand/cheer for the instances when dear leader advocates ‘investing in America.’

  372. 01/24/2011

    Return to realism: There won’t be a Middle East breakthrough

    By Jennifer Rubin

    When we last read a piece by former Middle East peace negotiator Aaron David Miller, he had zigzagged from chiding the believers in the “religion” of the peace process to sunny optimism that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton could get things on track. Now, thankfully, Miller is back to his earlier brand of realism, stating that “it should be clear to all but the interminably obtuse” (and the intentionally obtuse, I would add) that a breakthrough in peace talks isn’t possible in the forseeable future. He asserts that “the cooler heads in the Obama administration know this. Particularly the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, and the new national security adviser, Tom Donilon.” Now they just need to convince the president.

    Miller urges Obama to focus on attainable items, not a Middle East peace breakthrough. So Miller advises:

    First, stay out of the United Nations. Don’t encourage the Palestinians to believe that the United States will vote for, or even abstain on, resolutions that criticize the Israelis on settlements. Or support efforts to recognize Palestinian statehood. It’s a key to an empty room. That will come only through negotiations and U.S. mediation in the region — not in New York.

    Second, support Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad’s institution building on the West Bank, especially in the economic and security areas;

    Third, use the absence of direct talks — which have rarely produced sustained breakthroughs in any case — to press both sides separately, at a high level, on where they are on the core issues. Do this for three months — and see where the gaps are and what the chances are for bridging them;

    Fourth, probe for signs of life on the Israeli-Syrian talks.

    I’d stop at No. 2. On the list of farcical exercises, the search for an Israeli-Syrian breakthrough ranks high. But Miller’s return to realism should be applauded. We can only hope that the “interminably obtuse” don’t include the president.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/01/return_to_realism_there_wont_b.html

  373. Incredibly he is now at plus 8.2% and for the first time in months over 50% approval before tonights speech!!!! This is awful.

  374. 01/24/2011

    Return to realism: There won’t be a Middle East breakthrough
    ————————-
    Exactly what I said over a year ago, and I found the article which proved it would not happpen, despite all the hopium wafting though the corridors of power, from the mouth of Obama. Gelb and others. The fundamentals were not in place. Weak leadership on the Palestinian side was one factor. The presence of Hamas was another. The failure of Obama to confront Iran in a serious way. The perceived decline in American power. The antipathy of the people who live there to such an accord, despite what their wealthy counterparts, many of them secular themselves, feel should happen. We are now at a point, apparently, where the Palestian leadership is in retreat, and no agreement of substance will be possible. I have not read the Rubin article but this is where it was bound to end up. Some cosmetic deal may be in the works but nothing more. Failure here will strenthen the radical forces. Once again, it is about leadership, whereas for Barack it was more a matter of allowing his buddy Immelt to sell nuclear reactors to Iran. Is that what the public intererst has come down to in this administration: always doing what is best for General Electric even if it arms our enemies and harms the United States. Evidently yes. I think Cantor is a weak sister. If a numbnuts like David Gregory can force him to say that he believes Obama loves this country and was born in the United States, rather than saying he has no opinion on the subject and he will judge him by what he does, then he is a weak leader.

  375. “win the future” wtf is that, take a gamble on the Obama slot machine and you might just get your money back……screw that. If thats their campaign, they need to shoot the media campaign professionals.

  376. wbboei,

    Weak leadership, corrupt decision-making, and Abbas, Hamas, Hizbollah, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria in the mix. Not to mention extreme anti-semitism on the rise.

    Yes we had “tricky Dicky” and now we have “Obama No Drama.” What we have now is much much worse. He made sky high promises and has yet to achieve one of them. He gave a speech to the Arabs and threw Israel under the bus over and over again. He wasted two years trying it his way with Iran.

    Now the whole world is laughing at him.

  377. Jeffrey Immelt and Conflict of Interests
    Posted by Ben Howe (Profile)
    Tuesday, January 25th at 9:00AM EST
    11 Comments

    When the stimulus passed just two short years ago, a lot of special interests piled on to try and grab some of the dough that was being doled out. General Electric was part of that group.

    From American Spectator:

    On February 17th of that year, Obama had signed the stimulus bill, which included $24.9 million in grants that would flow directly to GE, with roughly $20 billion more slated for health care record modernization of the kind that GE specializes in — “with a direct request to do so from GE’s CEO Jeffrey Immelt.”

    As Tabitha Hale from Freedomworks notes:

    Jeffrey Immelt has been unapologetic about using the government to grow his corporation. The L.A. Times reminds us that last year Immelt was quoted in the Atlantic saying that he wants GE and government to work “in concert,” claiming that it didn’t make him a “traitor” or a “bad guy”… just “practical that that’s gotta happen.”

    In reality, the idea of ‘working concert with government is only a pleasant if unintended byproduct of the business model GE has been following for the last decade. Under the direction of CEO Jeffrey Immelt, GE has made plenty of moves at the cost of American taxpayer dollars. From their backdoor bailout to their exporting of jobs and the selling of secrets to our enemies, it is safe to say that what is good for GE is not necessarily good for America.

    Why then, would President Obama appoint Immelt to the job of advising the administration on how to stop killing jobs create jobs? I put together a video for Freedomworks to help answer this question, but I’ll give you a hint: What’s green and kills jobs?

    Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3da1PjHH_Z0&feature=player_embedded#!

  378. moon,

    Is it any worse than: “we are the ones we have been waiting for?”

    Honest to God this guy would make a good game show emcee.

  379. Does the ignoramus who likes Obama because he practices JFK poses in front of a mirror and reads other people’s speeches well, and is black, have any comprehension of what the devil looks like? It is all about deception, and stealing your soul. And people like Soros, and Immelt are the beneficiaries, just as Rezko was before he became a guest of the state of Illinois. In all cases, the American People were the losers. So to the mentally challenged people of the left, I would say this: you are the biggest rubes on the planet.

  380. win the future…easiest reply to that is , with Obama you the taxpayer will keep filling the Obama slot machine and taking a huge gamble giving Obama another four years.

    That slogan just implies Obama’s presidency is just based on luck. Stupid campaign to go on. Especially after all that hope and change has now turned into a gamble they lost last time.

  381. Errr was it not the republicans who devised these first……………….

    Exclusive: President Obama to Propose Budget Freeze and Earmark Ban Tonight

    Pursuing a path of deficit reduction and government reform, President Obama will tonight in his State of the Union address call for a ban on earmarks and he will propose an overall budget freeze, ABC News has learned.

    The proposals come as the president prepares to tackle the deficit and debt and as he faces a House of Representatives in Republican hands, many of whose members include those affiliated with the Tea Party who may be willing to embrace both moves.

    The president will propose some new spending in certain areas that address the speech’s theme of “How We Win the Future”: innovation, education and infrastructure. But those increases will be proposed as part of an overall budget freeze, which given the annual rate of growth is often seen in Washington, DC, budgeting as a cut.

    The FY 2011 budget was $3.8 trillion. Last year President Obama proposed a three-year hard freeze on non-security discretionary spending, to save $250 billion over the next decade; this would be much broader.

    As for earmarks, President Obama has long been critical of the process in which members of Congress insert their pet projects into legislation without having them first go through the normal appropriations process, but Congress has continued to put billions of dollars of such projects in bills that arrive at the president’s desk.

    After the midterm elections, which President Obama called a “shellacking,” he cited earmarks as a reason why some voters may have gone for the GOP.

    “I’m a strong believer that the earmarking process in Congress isn’t what the American people really want to see when it comes to making tough decisions about how taxpayer dollars are spent,” the president said. “And I, in the rush to get things done, had to sign a bunch of bills that had earmarks in them, which was contrary to what I had talked about. And I think folks look at that and they said, ‘Gosh, this feels like the same partisan squabbling, this seems like the same ways of doing business as happened before.’”

    The president said it was his understanding than House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., was pushing a moratorium on earmarks and “that’s something I think we can work on together.”

  382. or as the bloggers just put it…..

    It’s Talk Like a Republican Day at the White House…………….

    The left is gonna be pissed. Obama is turning into a republican right before their eyes. Poor little runovers. Make room under the bus.

  383. 01/25/2011

    Everyone knows Rahm Emanuel lives in Chicago

    By Richard Cohen

    While Rahm Emanuel was a White House aide to Bill Clinton, he caught the eye of Goldman Sachs. To Jon Corzine, then Goldman’s chairman, Emanuel was the perfect prospect. He could work hard and long. He was furiously industrious. He was very, very smart — and, soon, if he only would say yes, he would be immensely rich. Emanuel said no. He would rather return to Chicago. It was home.

    Now two appellate court judges have ruled that Chicago is not Emanuel’s home after all. The court ruled that Emanuel was not a resident when he worked as Obama’s chief of staff — even though he owned a house there, kept mementos there and was rumored from the very first day he joined the Obama white House to be returning to Chicago to run for mayor. The court Monday tossed him off the ballot.

    The Chicago Tribune called the ruling “judicial arrogance,” and I suppose it is. It is more than that, though. It contradicts common sense and everything that anyone knows about Emanuel. He is Chicago-born, Chicago-raised and Chicago-through-and-through. It’s true — and I will beat you to the punch here — that in choosing Chicago over New York, he did not exactly choose penury — he joined the investment banking firm of Wasserstein Perella and became a millionaire — but it is not everyone who would pass up the biggest of big bucks at the biggest of investment banks for any reason at all. It was clear that Emanuel was smitten with Chicago.

    Emanuel is a tough guy whose hobby is collecting enemies, so it is rough work to feel sorry for him. But as a member of the House, he gave up the chance to someday become speaker when he answered Obama’s summons and became White House chief of staff. Emanuel had to know that no one lasts at that job — while a speaker has the longevity of a Redwood. He did what he thought was the right thing.

    His recompense was to become mayor of Chicago. Now that, too, might be taken from him. (An appeal of the appeal is pending.) But he is officially off the ballot and, broad smile notwithstanding, on his back. The court said that for the previous year, he did not maintain a residence in Chicago. Everyone else knows better. Rahm Emanuel lived nowhere else.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/01/everyone_knows_rahm_emanuel_li.html

  384. moononpluto
    January 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Errr was it not the republicans who devised these first……………….

    Exclusive: President Obama to Propose Budget Freeze and Earmark Ban Tonight
    &&&&&&&

    Obama’s “path to re-election” is similar to the coup of 2008: be a chameleon mouthing platitudes, an ink blot where people see what they want to see, a blank screen to project ones hopes, and enough of a lack of a paper trail so that his pets in MSM can spin his “deeds” into whatever needs to be spun.

  385. I was wondering if Hillary would be at the SOTU tonight. I was hoping not, but I guess she’s been told to be there, no doubt! She did not go to the last one! I wonder what the color will be tonight?

    What I’ve been wondering is why Obama never went against the rethugs even when he had a super majority? I’m beginning to wonder if he knows they have the goods on him and he doesn’t want to go thru a Lewinsky type drama, so he buckles under without any problems or maybe he was always just a rethug? I guess I might watch the SOTU tonight, I’m off anyway!

  386. Best tweet of the day

    If you are watching the SOTU tonight, If u put on 3D glasses, you’ll get to see the debt jump out at u, steal ur wallet&leave an IOU.

    ROFLMAO.

  387. Everyone knows Rahm Emanuel lives in Chicago

    By Richard Cohen
    ———–
    This is why I believe it was rigged. See my comments above.

  388. Incredibly he is now at plus 8.2% and for the first time in months over 50% approval before tonights speech!!!! This is awful
    —————————

    STOPPING THE OBAMA SURGE

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on January 24, 2011

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    All the public opinion polls now confirm that President Obama has moved up sharply and significantly in popularity and job approval since he began to tack toward the center after the November election. Rasmussen and Zogby both have him over 50% job approval for the first time in almost a year. The key event was his high-minded speech in the aftermath of the Tucson shootings and his clear separation from the blame-oriented liberal commentators who tried to pin the killings on the Tea Party and Sarah Palin.

    Now, as he prepares to deliver his third State of the Union address, he will have a national audience that will see him for one hour doing what he does best – giving a speech. State of the Union addresses are not to be taken lightly. In the Clinton Administration, I compared them to the towers of a suspension bridge. When the speech was given, the president’s ratings would rise only to fall gradually until they perked up again at the next State of the Union speech.

    Obama will, doubtless, be the soul of moderation, bipartisanship, and compromise in his speech and may well see his ratings soar further upward.

    But don’t panic. Obama has to begin to take real positions on real issues posed by the Republican Congress. Will he cut spending sharply when the debt limit is increased? Will he agree to defunding Obamacare? Will he go along with banning the EPA from issuing regulations taxing carbon emissions? Will his Administration permit the National Labor Relations Board to ban secret ballots in union elections or let the FCC regulate the Internet and cripple talk radio? Will he veto budgets that have earmarks inserted by his Democratic allies?

    On these issues, there really is no center. If Obama wants to cut spending by only a moderate amount, that is not centrism. Half of too much is still too much.

    If the Republicans pose these choices starkly, Obama’s so-called move to the center will be exposed as the fraud that it is. He cannot remain protected by his own platitudes and clichés when he has to make real decisions about public policy, choosing between his own liberal/socialist ideology and what America wants.

    Indeed, the public will be doubly cynical about him if his move to the center turns out to have no substance. They will feel conned once again by the glib silver tongue in the White House. And Obama will have a hard time fooling the people thrice!

    But the Republicans must do their part. To call Obama’s bluff, they will have to pass serious alternatives to his policies – big cuts in spending, defunding of Obamacare and of his administrative orders, and a procedure for state bankruptcies. On the rocks of these issues, Obama’s centrism will smash to pieces and he will be revealed for the radical that he really is.

    There will be some Republicans who will want to meet him in the middle and agree to some cosmetic changes in Obamacare and some peripheral cuts in spending. We must not listen to these voices. It is only by posing sharp issues and manifestly different paths that Obama will be forced to choose and, in the process, be exposed.

  389. Things keep on piling up. Tim Adams has signed a notarized affidavit dated last Thursday, Jan 20, 2011. Quite damning evidence. Much pressure needs to be put on Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu (and all their election officials from 2008) on what he knows and when he knew it. Where are the grand juries to haul all their lying asses in?

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/questions-to-ask-hawaii-governor.html?showComment=1295936640043#c2378720012281958267
    cfkerchner said…
    Sworn Affidavit by Tim Adams, Senior Election Clerk in Hawaii during the 2008 Presidential Election, Stating No Hawaii Hospital Generated Long Form Birth Certificate Exists for Obama and that all the government officials in Hawaii knew this in 2008 and that he was told to stop asking questions about it by his supervisors:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/47512486/Sworn-Affidavit-by-Tim-Adams-Stating-No-HI-Hospital-Filed-Long-Form-Birth-Cert-Exists-for-Obama

  390. gonzotx
    January 24th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
    jbstonesfan
    January 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I don’t believe those polls
    &&&&&&&&&

    Exactly.

    These “pollsters” are paid political spinners. The state mouthpieces need to curry favor for access so they can write books to buy their vacation homes.

    They are selling us on this:

    After all his “wins” (including “healthcare reform”), he drives the Democratic party into the ground, setting it up for many years of setbacks (the way the states will gerrymander).

    He then gets one of those cheesy reality show type instant makeovers; “Now I’m a moderate”. He then proceeds to bargain away everything and get nothing in return for the Democrats except one Dem, himself. It was all about getting a “get out of jail free” card.

    The media then says, “Look, he got the Republicans to agree to all the low hanging fruit”, and he is then proclaimed to have had a faster resurrection than Bill Clinton!!

    Then driving this meme that “Obama’s rising”, they drill this into the public mindset.

    Yet people still don’t like the direction the country is going in, they still think the healthcare bill sucks, and for whatever green shoots there are, the lower and middle classes are seeing very little of it, and the job situation is not going to blossom overnight.

    So it’s a temporary illusion that “he’s turning it around”. It can’t last, because it is an illusion.

    “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain”.

  391. Oh yeah, it took a shooting rampage to somehow help Obama, to appear presidential and be a calming figure. Add that to the things propping up “Obama’s Fake Revival”.

  392. GE wants to sell US jet engine technology to Chicoms

    =============

    Maybe that’s why the Chicoms want to keep Rahm off the ballot.

    g,d,r

  393. rgb44hrc
    January 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
    moononpluto
    January 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Errr was it not the republicans who devised these first……………….

    Exclusive: President Obama to Propose Budget Freeze and Earmark Ban Tonight
    &&&&&&&

    Obama’s “path to re-election” is similar to the coup of 2008: be a chameleon mouthing platitudes, an ink blot where people see what they want to see, a blank screen to project ones hopes, and enough of a lack of a paper trail so that his pets in MSM can spin his “deeds” into whatever needs to be spun.
    _________________________

    Excellent! That is exactly where this is going. Good insights. Thanks for posting the conclusions to this charade, rgbhrc and moon.

  394. If there was a legit BC it would have been released by now.

    ===============

    At this point, even if they did find a long one and release it, some people wouldn’t believe it. So he’d still have ‘Birthers’ to kick around.

  395. The only political affiliation left we have to choose from is The Tea Party. The Dems and Rethugs are rife with corruption. So much so, they leave a trail of trash from whence they walk and speak.

    No wonder they were in such a hurry to destroy Sarah Palin’s popularity and taint her as a loose cannon and gun nut.

  396. Oh yeah, it took a shooting rampage to somehow help Obama, to appear presidential and be a calming figure. Add that to the things propping up “Obama’s Fake Revival”.

    =====================

    When random people give a rating on ‘job approval’, I wonder how many mean ‘the way he’s functioning this week’ and how many are looking at a longer period, like two years.

    THey ought to do a poll that breaks it down, or something.

  397. What are the pollsters on…looks strong, my ass, if a supposedly popular ex Gov only recently elected can only get 50% in a poll 2 years out from a special re-election in 2012, then i’d say he was really weak actually. 50% is as any pollster knows is practically vulnerable.

    Manchin Looks Strong

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/01/manchin-looks-strong.html

    A new Public Policy Polling survey in West Virginia finds Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) leading a possible challenge from Shelley Moore Capito (R) by nine points, 50% to 41%.

  398. 3…2…1….incoming…………….. expect Carol Mosley Braun to explode in a supernova upon hearing this, she thought she had it in the bag, yesterday.

  399. Holy Paint Horses???? LOL!

    A medicine hat is a Paint horse that is mostly white with a colored head. Mine is almost totally white with a black head and blue eyes. She’s a very loveable horse…sometimes I think she thinks she a dog, because she will follow you everywhere. A real people horse! Some aren’t you know! My gelding is one too. He will take your hammer while your fixing the fence and run off with it. He’s a mess!

    Great for Rahm, any Obama defeat is well received by me….

  400. jbstonesfan
    January 25th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Incredibly he is now at plus 8.2% and for the first time in months over 50% approval before tonights speech!!!! This is awful.

    —————–

    I’m not too worried. Obama always goes up in the polls when there is nothing much going on, and he only has to plod along doing ceremonial “feel good” stuff. The speech tonight has been carefully planned to be his best imitation Reagan. The journolisters have been dropping various articles and tv comments all week noting how they just recently noticed that Obama is remarkably like Reagan – sunny optimism and confidence and all that. They’ve been setting the stage.

    Now that the ground has been laid through all those “coincidental” comparisons to Reagan being inserted in the news all week long, look for BO to channel his best impersonation, and for the media to go into spasms of joy as to how he’s practically Reagan reincarnate. Why, that could have been the Gipper himself speaking!! It has all been carefully planned. Watch for it.

    But as I said, it’s a fake and will not help him other than temporarily. He is safe in the WH right now, not having to deal with any major crises or legislation. BUT: he has to present a budget soon, which is going to be a massive shock at the amount of spending. He will have to face the attacks that will come on the campaign trail. He cannot campaign for a second term while staying safely in the WH giving pretty speeches devoid of policy.

    His approval goes up during these lulls – always has. And the media will always jump on that as proof that the public has turned, and really loves him again now. It’s bullshit. The public is merely busy and distracted and biding their time. He hasn’t had the opportunity to specifically piss them off much lately, because he’s not been DOING anything. When he has to face the fire of opposition, the coming legislative battles, and defending his record again, they will remember why they were disgusted with the arrogant clueless snot in the first place.

  401. Official: Obama to call for 5-year spending freeze — excluding security spending — at SOTU.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012503235.html

    WASHINGTON — A White House official says President Barack Obama will call for a five-year freeze in non-security, discretionary spending (discretionary spending Defined : The portion of the budget left up to Congress to decide how to spend it) during his State of the Union address.

    The official says the proposal will be part of the president’s plans to reduce the deficit that he will outline in Tuesday’s primetime address. The official says Obama will also call for lawmakers to back a five-year plan put forth by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to save $78 billion in defense spending.

    Obama is under pressure from the public and lawmakers to cut spending. Several Republican lawmakers have proposed cutting $100 billion from Obama’s budget for the current year.

    The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly ahead of the president’s speech.

    ……………………………………………..

    Now watch the left spendaholics go apeshit on that, how will they pay for their bribes to their voters. The republicans may as well have written Obama’s speech for him tonight by the looks of it.

  402. HillaryForTexas, you nailed it. USA Today has a huge cover story on Ronnie The Magnificent.

    Reagan was another dithering figure head, but at least he had the courage of his convictions, and he was born in the US.

  403. LOL, hoisted on his own petard. Now why would he be against this i wonder…………

    Obama “strongly opposes” GOP bill to eliminate public financing for presidential campaigns

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2011/01/white_house_strongly_opposes_b.html

    The White House “strongly opposes” a Republican-backed bill to stop federal funding of presidential campaigns and political conventions — a public offering President Obama declined during his 2008 campaign. Despite that, the White House believes the public financing system should “be fixed rather than dismantled,” it said Tuesday.

    In a sharply-worded assessment of proposed legislation, the Office of Management and Budget said the GOP bill would kill public financing of presidential elections and expand the influence of private corporations and special-interest groups.

    The administration’s opinions come a day before House Republicans plan to hold a vote on the legislation, which would save about $520 million over the next decade and would require presidential candidates to rely on private donations instead of taxpayer money, according to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

    The bill is an outgrowth of a Cantor-backed program that invites GOP supporters to vote on proposed government spending cuts that should be considered by the full House. Even if the bill passes the Republican-led House, however, it’s unlikely to be considered by the Democratic-controlled Senate.

    Presidential candidates qualify for federal matching funds during the primary season if they meet certain private fundraising thresholds and abide by certain restrictions. Once formally nominated, major party presidential candidates may also opt to use public funding if they agree not to take contributions from private donors.

  404. rgb, he’s trying to preempt Sarah or any other R’s. I posted this at crawdad’s place yesterday:

    Like it or not, the two most popular and well-remembered presidents in decades are Ronald Reagan and William Jefferson Clinton. Crazy, I know, but that’s just a fact. Sorry, but it is.

    Given that, it makes sense that Palin and other R’s would hearken back to Reagan and try on his mantle. What does NOT make sense is that a Democratic president would do the same, rather than claiming heirship to Bill’s legacy.

    Unless, of course, you’re an value-less opportunistic asshole who spent two years relentlessly and gleefully shitting in the Clinton well. Then I guess your only option is to try to fight Palin over the body of zombie Reagan, and pull his hallowed skin over your naked ass before she beats you to it. Good luck with that.

    And BTW, I maintain that Obama, unlike some surmise, is not a closet Republican. He’s not a closet radical liberal, either. He’s a narcissistic opportunist who will hump the leg of zombie Reagan or zombie Marx in turns – whichever will get him the power and adulation he wants. He doesn’t care which it is. Never has.

  405. Normally, presidents have an agenda, a core of a few things they want to accomplish:

    LBJ:
    * Great Society
    * fight poverty
    * manage the “Vietnam Situation”
    * manage the Cold War

    Clinton:
    * it’s the economy, stupid
    * healthcare
    * jobs
    * welfare reform
    * move his party to the center
    * jobs
    * economy

    Obama:
    * be loved and admired
    * hog the limelight (be on every channel, like Dear Leader)
    * seek re-election by throwing his party to the wolves
    * Celebrity-in-Chief
    * vacation in fabulous places
    * Sports-Guy-Chief

    Not much time for anything else on his “agenda”; other people will crafter legistlation, and he’ll just sign the bills without having any input as to their contents, as long as he gets credit.

  406. Like it or not, the two most popular and well-remembered presidents in decades are Ronald Reagan and William Jefferson Clinton. Crazy, I know, but that’s just a fact. Sorry, but it is.

    Given that, it makes sense that Palin and other R’s would hearken back to Reagan and try on his mantle. What does NOT make sense is that a Democratic president would do the same, rather than claiming heirship to Bill’s legacy.

    Unless, of course, you’re an value-less opportunistic as*hole who spent two years relentlessly and gleefully shitting in the Clinton well. Then I guess your only option is to try to fight Palin over the body of zombie Reagan, and pull his hallowed skin over your naked ass before she beats you to it. Good luck with that.

  407. I wonder what new thread admin is working on. It must be a doozy, as it’s been almost a week now.

  408. “What does NOT make sense is that a Democratic president would do the same, rather than claiming heirship to Bill’s legacy.”

    —————————-

    Saying anything positive about Bill Clinton would give this egomaniac a virtual heart attack. In no way does he want to put Bill and or Hillary on a pedestal, especially before 2012.

    He wants to use them and throw them away. He goes with Reagan to additionally show that he is a partison and that the Reps are the ones screwing the country.

  409. confloyd
    January 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    Holy Paint Horses???? LOL!

    A medicine hat is a Paint horse that is mostly white with a colored head. Mine is almost totally white with a black head and blue eyes. She’s a very loveable horse…sometimes I think she thinks she a dog, because she will follow you everywhere. A real people horse! Some aren’t you know! My gelding is one too. He will take your hammer while your fixing the fence and run off with it. He’s a mess!
    **********************
    thanks, I had never heard that term before. Your paint sounds beautiful. How unusual is blue eyes in a horse.

  410. Obama will be milking the Tucson shootings for all it’s worth at this SOTU:

    But there will still be moments of tension — starting with the question of which of the justices will attend. Last year’s incident ignited a debate over whether it’s appropriate for justices to attend such a political event. Alito has said he won’t be coming this year, and Justice Antonin Scalia hasn’t been in a decade. As for the other seven justices, it’s unclear who is planning to show.

    There will be emotional highlights as well, especially as many of those touched by the Tucson shootings will be sitting with first lady Michelle Obama in her gallery box in the House chamber. Daniel Hernandez, the intern who helped save Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ life, is expected, as are Dr. Peter Rhee and several other doctors who attended to the victims . The first lady has also invited members of the family of Christina Taylor Green, the 9-year-old killed in the attack. The president’s speech will no doubt feature another brief but moving tribute to those lost in the shooting and the heroism displayed that day. And that, no doubt, will again win applause from all.

    —Jane Sasseen is the editor-in-chief of politics and opinion at Yahoo! News.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110125/pl_yblog_exclusive/a-viewers-guide-what-to-watch-for-during-obamas-state-of-the-union-speech

  411. Wasn’t it Ronald Reagan who started having feel good guests sitting with the first lady at the SOTU speeches? And while Obama’s ego won’t allow him to link himself to Bill Clinton, the msm will not stop saying the he has moved to the center, just like BC or he’s triangulating just like BC or he was unpopular until his 2nd term just like BC. I resent propping up Obama with comparisons to Bill Clinton.

  412. HillaryforTexas
    January 25th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    I wonder what new thread admin is working on. It must be a doozy, as it’s been almost a week now.

    ——–
    I hope that is what is going on and not that she/he is not that into us now. 😉

    Admin, we miss you!

  413. Admin is probably holding off posting anything until after the SOTU tonight. Obama’s subject material will be a topic for discussion for weeks to come.

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