Smart Republicans And The Dangers Of Gambling – The DailyKooks And Obama’s Dead Cat

What a great lesson the Republicans gave the opposition party on Friday. Faced with an incompetent leader the Republicans dumped Michael Steele.

Steele had gambled that his skin color guaranteed him the top job at the RNC. In the wake of the 2008 election Republicans gambled that Steele’s skin color would help them fight the “racist” charge. That gamble paid off.

However, Steele’s subsequent multi-faceted nincompoopery and blue state pedigree combined to turn the Republican gamble into an overall loss (especially of donors and money and consequently additional 2010 election victories). Steele gambled his skin color would continue to protect him. But with the increase in African-American Republican elected officials, the increased and very visible diversity of the Republican ranks, the Republican National Committee voters realized they did not need Steele’s protection from the “racist” charge anymore. Furthermore Obama is so weakened at this point, the “racist” charge so flaccid from overuse, Republicans gave the heave-ho to the blunt Steele.

Obama Dimocrats by contrast relected Nancy Pelousy to be their leader, created an extra position for James Clyburn even as Steny Hoyer kept his post. Tim Kaine and Harry Reid have nothing to fear.

Digest that. The Republicans won victories not seen in generations and they (despite protests and controversy over the new leader) dumped their leader because they wanted to prepare for 2012 and the future. The Obama Dimocrats were slapped nationwide with defeats but the motto remains “stay the course – together we thrive”. Which team would a sensible person hire to run their business?

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In our first article about the Arizona Shootings we warned the DailyKooks and other Big Blog Boys that their gamble to blame Sarah Palin and the Tea Party for the murders would crap out.

Proof of our contention came in a Qunnipiac poll:

“Saturday’s shooting of Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in which six people were killed, could not have been prevented, 40 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Another 23 percent blame the mental health system, while 15 percent say it was due to heated political rhetoric and 9 percent attribute the tragedy to lax gun control.

American voters say 52 – 41 percent that “heated political rhetoric drives unstable people to commit violence,” the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Liberals rather than conservatives are more responsible for such rhetoric, voters say 36 – 32 percent. [snip]

“Americans seem to be rejecting the blame game for the Arizona shooting. By far, the largest number thinks this tragedy could not have been prevented,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. “Although a bare majority of voters say political rhetoric might drive unstable people to violence, less than one in seven blame it for the Arizona incident.”

It will get worse for the DailyKooks. Already “liberals” receive more blame for “vitriol”. As news spreads that the “Together We Thrive” slogan was an Obama campaign artifact, the death rally Obama publicity stunt will have all the resonance of “Mission Accomplished” and that ultimately rejected White House propaganda ploy. The Obama White House coordinated the smears and cheers after the Arizona shootings – maybe it’s time for House Republicans to investigate.

Big Media tried to assist Barack Obama and his Hopium Guzzlers in their various attempts to smear and fear those not responsible for the acts of Jared LONER. Some eggheads tried to explain why “fair-minded journalists allowed their judgment to become so clouded?” They examined the question of “why did the press go so far astray this week?” with false charges against Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. The answer is that Big Media is not composed of the “fair-minded” but is an a partner of the Obama White House.

As we wrote at the time, the minute the picture of Jared LONER with his smirk and wild eyes appeared, the DailyKooks had lost the argument and the backlash commenced. Soon after the picture appeared the Christian Science Monitor noted “As portrait of Jared Loughner sharpens, ‘vitriol’ blame fades”:

“The wave of national soul-searching about the level of political vitriol and how it might have played a part in Saturday’s shootings in Tucson, Ariz., now appears to be ebbing. [snip]

But emerging information about primary suspect Jared Loughner suggests that he was motivated not by a climate of hate but rather by his own troubled mind and a personal vendetta against Congresswoman Giffords, who was injured in the attack. The investigation has not concluded, and more information could come to light. But for now, a majority of Americans are dismissing the notion that the shooter was set off by a Sarah Palin political map, tea party anger, or talk about “second amendment remedies.” [snip]

Indeed, one piece of evidence collected so far is a 2007 letter from Giffords’s office to Mr. Loughner, thanking him for attending a meet-and-greet event. On it is scrawled a death threat to Giffords. In 2007, Sarah Palin was a little-known Alaska governor and the tea party movement did not exist.

At this point, then, the left’s initial eagerness to link the shooting to political anger on the right could backfire, says Charles Franklin, a pollster and political scientist at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.”

It will backfire. The smear attempts will be paid for in full. As more and more information emerges of the White House’s role in stoking the smears, the damage to Obama and his DailyKooks will be as apparent and costly as the “Mission Accomplished” publicity stunt turned out for George W. Bush and the Republicans. The DailyKooks and their Clown from Chicago will eventually have to pay for this latest gamble with smears:

It was the immediate connection from the left of this shooting to political rhetoric from the right that polarized this, and here we have a case where there’s a rush to blame Palin [and other conservatives] with no direct connection to her at all,” he says. “And the more we learn about this guy, it seems there isn’t any political motivation in a broader sense.”

As we wrote, the very fact that a Republicans district court judge was killed and a congresswoman was shot made the shooting “political”. This does not mean that the leap can be made to blame Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement, “vitriol”, Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh for either “creating an atmosphere” or complicit in any way in the Arizona shootings. The ugly politics, the political vitriol, came from those who blamed the innocent for political profit. This particular political shooting was not a political shooting – and too complex a truth and contradiction for the small minds at DailyKooks (“The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.”) The Monitor re-explains what we explained early in the week:

“To be sure, Sheriff Dupnik put the issue on the national plate with his comments, and given that that the shooting appears to be a political assassination attempt in a politically rancorous border district, the debate on political tone was, in many ways, inevitable.

But critics point out that the nation largely refrained from linking Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan – the suspect in the 2009 Fort Hood shootings – with terrorism.

In Loughner’s case, no reported evidence so far suggests any connection to the ideology or ideologues of the right. A Loughner friend, Zach Osler, told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Wednesday that Loughner “did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.”

That doesn’t mean the issue of political rancor is unimportant, and some commentators are simply using this moment to argue that – regardless of the facts of the current case – political anger can have outsized effects on troubled minds.

“Among elite circles there is a sharp debate going on about [connections to campaign rhetoric],” says Mr. Franklin. “So we’re seeing some people who deny that political rhetoric had any connection to the shooting, but who nonetheless are speaking out about the question of civility and the level of rhetoric, and they’re coming from both the left and the right.”

Like Hillary Clinton, civility is something we would love as the dominant form of discourse here and abroad (the need for civil discourse in other countries is a particular cause of Hillary’s remarks this week which the Hillary haters chose not to think about). However, we recall when we were called “racists” by Obama Hopium Guzzlers. They opened the door. We wish Sarah Palin had not employed the term “blood libel” with all the historical ramifications that term brings. But we were not the ones attacked as murder accessories like Palin was.

We will not have civility or a “civil public discourse” until Barack Obama and his thugs confess and apologize for their libels against us and against people like Sarah Palin. When it comes to thugs like Barack Obama and his henchmen the only response can be to fight back with the very weapons they wield.

The uncivil thugs cannot demand civility. It is thug Barack Obama and his henchmen who are responsible for the uncivil discourse. Kirsten Powers makes the argument:

Obama mostly chose to be vague on this point, “For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind.”

He did add to his prepared remarks that incivility did not cause this tragedy, but he stopped short of a full rebuke of the complete irresponsibility of those who have been stoking anger at conservatives who—as far as we know—had nothing to do with this.

When the president did lay blame, it was on Americans in general. Among the many odd assertions he made: suggesting that “what a tragedy like this requires” is that “we align our values with our actions.” We were told to “expand our moral imaginations.”

Huh?

A mentally ill gunman opened fire at a Safeway. A lack of “aligning” or “imagination” really wasn’t the problem. Obama chided Americans to “be better,” as if we somehow caused this shooting to happen. He said, “We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us.”

Now if Obama isn’t talking about political discourse here, I don’t know what he’s talking about. Certainly he can’t be suggesting that how you treat the mailman or your mother is at issue.

Let’s be clear: How we “treat each other” also is not what caused this shooting. Mental illness combined with a gun and a 33-round high-capacity magazine collided to produce a tragedy. This may not have been the venue to discuss this in such pointed terms, but it also should not have been used as an opportunity to push further into the media bloodstream the lie that hostile rhetoric or incivility even played a role in this, let alone caused it.

Multiple polls have shown that Americans reject the assertion that political speech incited the shooter. Nothing has come up in the investigation to suggest it played a role. In fact, it’s been reported that a friend of gunman Jared Lee Loughner flatly rejected heated rhetoric as an issue, telling Good Morning America, “He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.”

The friend hadn’t seen Loughner in two years, so perhaps in that intervening time he turned on the radio or television. However, police have yet to turn up such evidence. To my liberal friends: The existence of heated political rhetoric does not prove that it played a role in this shooting, unless new evidence emerges. Don’t confuse coincidence with causation. Sadly, facts don’t seem to be enough to dislodge this insidious and distracting media meme. Wednesday night brought us no closer to moving on from that.”

Having provoked and (as usual with Obama thuggery done behind the scenes) stoked the hatred and blood libel, Barack Obama called for civility because it increasingly became clear that the gamble was not going to go well. The bluff did not work. The American people rejected the blood libel. The American people are getting to know how these Chicago thugs work.

The backlash is a comin’. Even Obama blowhard Charles Blow at the New York Times knows it:

“Immediately after the news broke, the air became thick with conjecture, speculation and innuendo. There was a giddy, almost punch-drunk excitement on the left. The prophecy had been fulfilled: “words have consequences.” And now, the right’s rhetorical chickens had finally come home to roost.

The dots were too close and the temptation to connect them too strong. The target was a Democratic congresswoman. There was the map of her district in the cross hairs. There were her own prescient worries about overheated rhetoric.

Within hours of the shooting, there was a full-fledged witch hunt to link the shooter to the right. [snip]

The only problem is that there was no evidence then, and even now, that overheated rhetoric from the right had anything to do with the shooting. (In fact, a couple of people who said they knew him have described him as either apolitical or “quite liberal.”) The picture emerging is of a sad and lonely soul slowly, and publicly, slipping into insanity. [snip]

But I also know that potential, possibility and even plausibility are not proof.

The American people know it, too. [snip]

So the left overreacts and overreaches and it only accomplishes two things: fostering sympathy for its opponents and nurturing a false equivalence within the body politic. Well done, Democrats.”

A White House Obama orchestrated campaign of smears fell apart as the American people rejected the blood libel and false witness testimony. Barack Obama pretended (again) to be an innocent and called for a ceasefire before the conflagration he started turned and burnt him to a crisp. After the foolishness in Arizona described by Kirstein Powers no idiot dared continue to repeat the foolishness. This did not mean that lantern-jawed Michelle Obama would keep herself from uttering stupidities. Wrote Michelle Obama to the nation’s parents::

We can teach our children that here in America, we embrace each other, and support each other, in times of crisis. And we can help them do that in their own small way – whether it’s by sending a letter, or saying a prayer, or just keeping the victims and their families in their thoughts.

We can teach them the value of tolerance – the practice of assuming the best, rather than the worst, about those around us. We can teach them to give others the benefit of the doubt, particularly those with whom they disagree.

Perhaps her sweaters are too tight. But this is stupidity. Isn’t the lesson from this entire episode quite the contrary to what idiot Michelle Obama is saying? Isn’t the lesson that you should not be tolerant? Isn’t the lesson that prejudice has it’s value? Indeed the fellow students of Jared LONER who sat near doors thinking that he might have a gun were smart to fear and run away from him. The professor who feared and wanted Jared LONER as far away as possible was smart. So where does idiot Michelle Obama come off telling us that we should “give others the benefit of the doubt”? It’s a stupid platitude from a stupid person at best.

So where does Michelle Obama come off telling us that the lesson from this sorry episode is tolerance? No one can be that stupid can they? Ann Althouse replies that the lesson is the opposite of what stupid Michelle Obama says it is:

“Shouldn’t we learn to be perceptive, analytical, and aware that some of the individuals among us are, in fact, mentally sick and need something other than tolerance and wishful thinking about how good they might be? So why is the First Lady telling us to teach kids the opposite?”

Michelle Obama is not that stupid. She is joining her Chicago Clown in a politically motivated flim-flam (which now includes church attendance, and gray hair at “serious events” and dark hair at events aimed at the young or those which require the pretense of vigor). A case can be made for tolerance and understanding but not in this case. What we learn here is that walking down a dark street when instinct tells you not to is stupid. What we learn here is that sometimes that person you fear is a person you damn well should fear. What this case tells us is that sometimes you should listen to your gut when it tells you to get away from someone. If anything this case teaches that instinct and prejudice and intolerance are sometimes the way to go! Three cheers for intolerance and prejudice! Down with politically incorrect inanities!

Not to be outdone with stupidity from Michelle Obama, ABC News made a supreme effort at stupidity and won the contest. The facts and truth are tampered with at Big Media. Christiane Amanpour and David Muir prattled about how tolerant and adult the Tucson community has been concerning the shootings – even as at the event they manufactured a survivor of the shootings was busy threatening a Tea Party leader with death. ABC News compounded the foolishness by not mentioning that the threat was made against a Tea Party leader.

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Obama and his Hopium addled advisors and Big Blog Boys thought the Arizona shootings would help them. They thought they could pull a Bill Clinton Oklahoma City speech. But they could not because Obama is not half the man Bill Clinton is and there is not one biological cell in Obama as presidential as Bill Clinton.

But there can be no denying that we have seen a dead cat bounce in the past few weeks. Is this good news for Obama or simply a consequence of Obama not being visible when he vacationed? Or is there a deeper meaning and Obama is on the way up? Howard Kurtz provides some answers:

“Amid the glowing reviews for Barack Obama’s memorial speech in Tucson—with even conservatives dishing out praise—some prognosticators see a political resurrection for the embattled president.

That’s not how the White House views it. [snip]

In the sharp-edged world of Beltway scorekeeping, the Obama oration probably won’t lead to legislative progress, or even a better working relationship with Republicans trying to repeal his health-care law.”

Jay Cost has meatier analysis:

“The 111th Congress was extremely divisive, and the political process over the last two years has basically separated the country into two groups; by Election Day, those opposed to the president outnumbered those in support by 2-4 points. Yet over the last two months, the over-heated rhetoric has noticeably cooled, the country has not really discussed the big issues that divide it, and in general there’s just been a break in the partisan action. This has given the president an opportunity to elevate his image, and his success in that regard is showing up in the polls.”

Throw in another vacation and we get the “absence makes the heart grow fonder” effect. But has anything changed to give Hope to the Hopium dealers? Nah!:

“I don’t really think any of the fundamentals have changed in the few months since the election, so I have my doubts that this uptick is fundamentally similar to Clinton’s improvement when he battled the GOP on the budget. That fight re-framed the national conversation with Clinton on the popular side — for the first time, really, since the start of his presidency. Similarly, I don’t think this is like the rebound in Reagan’s job approval numbers in 1983, as the economy was on the good side of the “V-shaped” recession of the early 80s.

In the long term, I think voters are generally going to evaluate President Obama on three big issues: jobs, the deficit, and health care. In that order. Nothing I have seen in the last few weeks suggests that the needle has moved substantially on any of these items — and, in fact, looking at the AP/GfK poll’s internals, you’ll see that his approval on these items trails his overall approval. There might be up-ticks and down-ticks depending on the news climate, but I think that those three issues have set the basic parameters of opinions on the president, and they will continue to do so.”

The fear with smears campaign of Barack Obama has failed. The backlash is building. The culprits, like the red thong killer, must be held to account. They gambled and lost. In 2012 they must be made to pay.

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405 thoughts on “Smart Republicans And The Dangers Of Gambling – The DailyKooks And Obama’s Dead Cat

  1. Well that was quick. MoonOnPluto posted this earlier:

    Obama drops like a stone in Rasmussen Poll..

    Boy his bounce was nonexistant.

    Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove.

    If that was the best speech of his Presidency and the best he gets is a 44% approval rating, then the public aint buying the crap anymore.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    ………………………………………

    he Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14 (see trends).

  2. Damned if this post is not chock full of good stuff!

    Washington Examiner has an article ‘Rethinking Obama’s Political Performance in Tucson’-
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/01/rethinking-obamas-political-performance-tucson

    while Admin, seeing through the chicago chicanery from the getgo, has nothing to rethink.

    Perhaps Obie will have other problems too. Not that long ago he pledged to focus on jobs. After that, it was to focus on Africa, then education, and somewhere mixed in with all those priorities it has been mentioned – oh yes – that he’s going to need a billion dollars to buy the next term in the OO.

  3. Clinton is proving that a feminist foreign policy is possible – and works

    The secretary of state has explicitly placed women’s needs at the heart of US thinking about long-term security

    Madeleine Bunting
    guardian.co.uk, Sunday 16 January 2011

    Back in the heady days of 1970s feminism there was an argument that once women achieved political power, there would be no more war. Margaret Thatcher and her Falklands war exploded that myth, and along with it any residual notion that women might do foreign policy differently from men. Indeed, it became a credibility requirement for any women with a senior foreign or defence brief to give a wide berth to anything with a whiff of being a woman’s issue. Women had to work extra hard to look tough on the world stage. Meanwhile, women’s issues were parked in the softer brief of international development.

    It is these unspoken rules that Hillary Clinton has been dismantling since becoming US secretary of state two years ago. She is the most powerful politician to advance an explicitly feminist agenda. Even in that most delicate and crucial relationship with China – on which the world’s attention will be fixed this week for the Chinese president’s visit to the US –Clinton has gone out of her way to press feminist issues. In China’s case, she has highlighted the country’s growing gender imbalance caused by the high abortion rate of female foetuses.

    Inevitably, some see it as a recasting of US imperialism, others as a force for the progressive good. I’ll come on to what it stacks up to, but the first point is to marvel at how she has got away with it. On countless occasions since arriving at the state department, Clinton has asserted that the rights of women and girls are now core to US foreign policy. It’s hard to imagine any British foreign secretary ever saying such a thing.

    Many of her statements can be routed back to the idealistic internationalism of 70s feminism. Astonishingly, she has managed to bring the feminism for which she was loathed in the early 90s (as the first lady who didn’t stay home and bake cookies) into the heart of the state department and foreign policy, and is still clocking high opinion poll ratings.

    From the start Clinton left no one in any doubt where she stood: women’s rights are “the signature issue” of this administration’s foreign policy, she said. She mentioned women 450 times in speeches in the first five months in office. “Transformation of the role of women is the last great impediment to universal progress,” she declared, and began to develop what is her standard line: women’s issues are integral to the achievement of every goal of US foreign policy.

    Or put more simply: the empowerment, participation and protection of women and girls is vital to the long-term security of the US. Last month this rhetoric was translated into policy in the long awaited Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development Review, which aimed to redefine US foreign policy around civilian power. “We are integrating women and girls into everything we do… in all our diplomacy with other governments… in our work on conflict and crisis,” said the state department’s briefing.

    For a security agenda traditionally dominated by weaponry and military expertise, this is radical stuff. It draws on a powerful consensus built up behind the overwhelming evidence that women are vital to a range of key global concerns. Links have been drawn between gross gender inequality and political extremism. Women are crucial on issues such as food security (women produce most of the food that feeds the world), health, education and democracy. The World Bank picked up this agenda long ago, and a raft of unexpected allies have emerged, such as the economist Lawrence Summers, who said that the most effective investment in development is the education of girls. Clinton has been riding a wave of optimism that women hold the key to global development and peace.

    She makes this abstract thinking concrete on her foreign visits. Her press entourage finds itself dragged around meetings with micro-credit groups, activists and politicians – all women. It’s strategic, she admitted in an interview – “It’s a constant effort to elevate people who, in their societies, may not even be known by their own leaders. My coming gives them a platform, which then gives us the chance to try and change the priorities of governments.” When she visited South Africa, she spent twice as much time with a women’s housing project as she did with the president.

    She has carefully chosen key issues and pushed hard. Perhaps her greatest success so far has been to highlight sexual violence as a weapon of war. Anne Marie Goetz of UN Women argues that sexual violence is an “even more destructive weapon than landmines or cluster bombs on communities because its effects are so long term”, but repeatedly the issue was marginalised or ignored in conflict resolution or peacekeeping.

    In 2009 Clinton visited the Democratic Republic of the Congo and talked to rape victims, and she has been instrumental in the passage of a series of UN security council resolutions that have put real teeth into tackling the issue: the appointment of a special representative last April – Margaret Wallström – the naming of perpetrators, and a dedicated team of experts to pursue them.

    Clinton was also key to setting up UN Women, which started work last week. In particular, she is credited with persuading the former Chilean president Michele Bachelet to take the top job.

    Take another issue for which women’s groups had struggled to get recognition. One of the biggest killers of women and children in the developing world is cooking stoves. Inhalation of smoke from open fires kills 1.9 million a year. Plus, gathering firewood makes women and girls vulnerable to sexual violence, quite apart from the environmental consequences of chopping down trees. Yet the issue has had a fraction of the attention of Aids/HIV or malaria. Last September, Clinton launched a global alliance for clean cookstoves with a US pledge of $50m and a target of 100m stoves by 2020. One observer said: “It was classic Clinton, very practical; it’s modest but makes a massive difference – but it took a woman to get it.”

    Observers on both sides of the Atlantic acknowledge “she’s a game-changer”. They say the prominence she gives key issues enables them to be taken seriously. But for all the enthusiasm, it’s clear there are major constraints on this agenda. It gets nowhere in the Middle East, while Afghanistan presents a big challenge – Clinton has insisted peace cannot come at the cost of women’s rights. But the signs aren’t good that she can hold this line. Meanwhile, there are critics who worry that her advocacy could backfire and antagonise conservative societies, and even prove inimical to US interests.

    It could generate resentment and suspicion, says Stephen Walt, a professor of international relations at Harvard. He points out the US can’t even sort out its own problems of sexual inequality, so it is “overly optimistic” to think it can have much impact in Yemen, Congo or India.

    Clinton is careful to couch her feminism in talk of US interests and splice it into a hawkish toughness to reassure her domestic audience. She has picked her issues carefully, and made some big compromises to keep people on side. Her feminism has obviously been helpful for the Obama administration, which is anxious to redesign US foreign policy in the midst of two disastrous foreign wars. It could still reap dividends for women, but the question is: will it be quietly sidelined when no longer useful?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jan/16/hillary-clinton-feminist-foreign-policy

  4. So bambi and wifey attended church today. They have attended church maybe 12 times in the last too years, saying they prefer to practice privately.

    Well I can just imagine why they chose to go today and I don’t think it had anything to do with “practising their faith.” But it had everything to do with game-changing his image after Tucson and trying to appeal to the people.

    So going to church = another manipulative 2012 election move.

    How sad.

  5. “The fear with smears campaign of Barack Obama has failed. The backlash is building.

    ————-

    God admin, I really hope so.

  6. “The fear with smears campaign of Barack Obama has failed. The backlash is building.”

    From your pen to god’s ear, admin.

    And as you are 99.9 % accurate in your predictions I can allow myself to look forward to the final stages of the backlash ending with Bo slinking out of DC with his tight-sweaterd sleeveless wife in tow.

    Brilliant post.

  7. so in 4 days Obama has gone from a total -1 approval to a total -11 aproval, seriously, talk about a dead cat bounce, the cat not only bounced but when it came back down dropped into a huge canyon.

  8. I have heard from a lot of people who are by no means Palin likers who are absolutely disgusted about what they have tried to do to her this week in the media, they are actually taking 2nd looks at her and thinking perhaps she was right all along.

  9. moon,

    I heard that Palin is gbreaking her media silence and going on Hannity this week.

    I wish it were Greta instead. A little more credibility. Hannity is a leech.

  10. JanH
    January 16th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    So bambi and wifey attended church today. They have attended church maybe 12 times in the last too years, saying they prefer to practice privately.

    Well I can just imagine why they chose to go today and I don’t think it had anything to do with “practising their faith.” But it had everything to do with game-changing his image after Tucson and trying to appeal to the people.

    So going to church = another manipulative 2012 election move.

    How sad.
    _____________________

    The Campaign has started. He is once again God’s gift to America. He has to become all things to all people once again.

  11. It begins……

    WASHINGTON – A House committee has asked the Homeland Security Department to provide documents about an agency policy that required political appointees to review many Freedom of Information Act requests before the records were released, according to a letter obtained Sunday by The Associated Press.

    The letter to Homeland Security was sent late Friday by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. It represents an early move by House Republicans who have vowed to launch numerous probes of President Barack Obama’s administration, ranging from its implementation of the new health care law to rules curbing air pollution to spending in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The Associated Press reported in July that Homeland Security had sidetracked hundreds of requests for federal records to top political advisers to the department’s secretary, Janet Napolitano. The political appointees wanted information about those requesting the materials, and in some cases the release of documents considered politically sensitive was delayed, according to numerous e-mails that were obtained by the AP.

  12. moononpluto,

    I saw that but I’m beginning to have my doubts about just how far Issa will go with any investigations. I fear he may have been bought off.

    I hope he’s still a free agent.

  13. Dead cat bounce………….. 😆

    Seems as though MO and BO are the presidential actors, dressing up and down and hair color to go with the occasion.

    Reminds me of when they did a ‘make over’ for MO, trying to cast her in Jackie’s shoes, but we see how that went.

    Great post Admin.

  14. Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance.


    Well that is sure saying something. If there is a tinnie tiny piece of BO that is doing okay… vote approve.

    What’s next, vote approval if there is a wish for him to do something half way decent?

  15. Remember how they said the fraud wrote the speech, working on it for “days”…I have a bridge for sale..
    *******************
    January 16, 2011
    30 year-old Chicagoan Wrote Tucson Speech
    Jack Cashill

    In a Friday article I had speculated that chief Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau had penned Obama’s over-praised Tucson oration, but it turns out that Obama elevated heretofore unknown Cody Keenan from the “eulogy and commencement beat” for his moment in the Arizona sun.

    In an uncommonly frank moment Wednesday night, while flying back from Tucson on Air Force One, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told a Chicago Tribune reporter and others that Keenan had been the speechwriter.

    By Thursday morning, Gibbs was insisting that “Obama had wielded the heavier pen.” Added Gibbs, “I think last night was a speech that was very much the president’s, and he spent a great deal of time going through his thoughts on this and spent a lot of time working on what he wanted to say,”

    Apparently, Gibbs had forgotten that, unlike other political figures, Obama writes his own material.

  16. Blame Righty: A condensed history
    by Michelle Malkin

    Copyright 2010

    I agree with President Obama. When it comes to politicizing random violence, he and his supporters have been “far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than” they do. Recognition is the first step toward reconciliation. It’s time to recognize the poisonous pervasiveness of the Blame Righty meme.
    For the past two years, Democrat officials, liberal activists, and journalists have jumped to libelous conclusions about individual shooting sprees committed by mentally unstable loners with incoherent delusions all over the ideological map. The White House now pledges to swear off “pointing fingers or assigning blame.” Alas, the Obama administration’s political and media foot soldiers have proven themselves incapable of such restraint.

    In April 2009, a disgruntled, unemployed loser shot and killed three Pittsburgh police officers in a horrifying bloodbath. The gunman, Richard Poplawski, was a dropout from the Marines who threw a food tray at a drill instructor and had beaten his girlfriend. Was this deranged shooter who pulled the trigger to blame? Nope. Despite evidence that Poplawski’s homicidal, racist tendencies manifested themselves years before Obama took office, lefty publications asserted that the real culprits of the spree were the “heated, apocalyptic rhetoric of the anti-Obama forces” (according to mainstream liberal Atlantic Monthly pundit Andrew Sullivan), along with Fox News and Glenn Beck (according to mainstream liberal journalist Steve Benen of the Washington Monthly online).

    That same month, a sick, evil man named Jiverly Voong ambushed an immigration center in Binghamton, New York. Recently fired from his job, Voong murdered 13 people, critically wounded four others, and then committed suicide. The instant psychologists of the Left knew nothing about the disgruntled man of Vietnamese descent of undetermined political affiliation. But within hours of the shooting, liberal mega-website Huffington Post commenters had overwhelmingly convicted GOP Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, the National Rifle Association, Fox News, Lou Dobbs, and yours truly. Liberal radio host Alan Colmes pointed his finger at the “huge anti–immigrant backlash in this country” – never mind that tens of millions of legal immigrants and naturalized citizens have coped with hardship, overcome racism, and embraced assimilation without going bloody bonkers.

    In June 2009, a depraved, elderly anti-Semite named James von Brunn gunned down a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. Washington Post blogger Greg Sargent and lefty Center for American Progress think-tank fellow Matthew Yglesias immediately invoked the Obama administration’s report on right-wing extremism, leading to a wider chorus of condemnations against the Tea Party, talk radio, and the entire GOP. The truth? Von Brunn was an unstable, equal-opportunity hater and 9/11 Truther conspiracy loon who bashed Jews and Christians, George W. Bush and Fox News, and had also threatened the conservative Weekly Standard magazine.

    In late August 2009, as lawmakers faced citizen revolts at health care town halls nationwide, the Colorado Democratic Party decried a window-smashing vandalism attack at its Denver headquarters. The state party chair, Pat Waak, singled out Tea Party activists and blamed “people opposed to health care” for the attack. The perpetrator, Maurice Schwenkler, turned out to be a far Left transgender activist/single-payer anarchist who had worked for a labor union-tied political committee and canvassed for a Democrat candidate.

    In September 2009, Bill Sparkman, a federal U.S. Census worker, was found dead in a secluded rural Kentucky cemetery with the word “Fed” scrawled on his chest with a rope around his neck. The Atlantic Monthly’s Andrew Sullivan rushed to indict “Southern populist terrorism, whipped up by the GOP and its Fox and talk radio cohorts” in an online magazine post titled “No Suicide,” which decried the “Kentucky lynching.” Liberal author Richard Benjamin blamed “anti-government” bile. New York magazine fingered conservative talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh, “conservative media personalities, websites, and even members of Congress.” So, who killed Bill Sparkman? Bill Sparkman. He killed himself and deliberately manufactured a hate crime hoax as part of an insurance scam to benefit his surviving son.

    In February 2010, ticking time-bomb professor Amy Bishop gunned down three of her colleagues at University of Alabama-Huntsville and suicide pilot Joseph Andrew Stack flew a stolen small plane into an Austin, Texas, office complex that contained an Internal Revenue Service office. Mainstream journalists from Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart to Time magazine reporter Hilary Hylton leaped forward to tie the crimes to Tea Party rhetoric. Never mind that Bishop was an Obama-worshiping academic with a lifelong history of violence or that Stack was another Bush-hater outraged about everything from George W. Bush to the American medical system to the evils of capitalism to the city of Austin, the Catholic Church, and airlines.

    In May 2010, liberal New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg tried to preemptively pin the Times Square bombing attempt on “someone with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill or something.” The culprit was unrepentant Muslim jihadist Faisal Shahzad.

    In August 2010, Democrat supporters of Missouri Rep. Russ Carnahan blamed a “firebombing” at the congressman’s St. Louis office on Tea Party suspects. The real perpetrator? Disgruntled progressive activist Chris Powers, enraged over a paycheck dispute.
    President Obama wisely counseled the nation this week at the Tucson massacre memorial that “Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.” But as the progressive Left’s smear-stained recent history shows, criminalizing conservatism is a hard habit to break.

  17. They will primary your ass Obama…….be just hilarious to see them turn on him. Like we didnt warn them he would bite their hands.

    “As one veteran strategist on Capitol Hill put it: “This is another clear indication that this administration, with reelection in the forefront of their consideration, is now moving to the DLC and far away from the Daily Kos.” It also suggests that the agenda may well entail compromise with Republicans on everything except Obamacare…..”

    ………………..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/16/AR2011011603807.html

    A Third Way to reelection?

    The selection of Bill Daley as President Obama’s chief of staff was the first bit of evidence, but the hiring of Bruce Reed removes any doubt about the direction Obama is heading.

    Reed, Vice President Biden’s new chief of staff, was one of the founding fathers of the moderate Democratic Leadership Council, which helped propel Bill Clinton into office and did battle with the left wing of the party. Rather than describe him as “center-left,” it is more accurate to say “centrist Democrat who foiled the left.” More recently, and tellingly, Reed was executive director of the Simpson-Bowles debt commission; he was widely credited with drafting its report, which included major cuts in entitlements and real tax reform. Notably, the report did not envision a repeal or major refashioning of Obamacare, which was why Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and other conservatives refused to sign on.

  18. gonzotx
    January 17th, 2011 at 2:13 am

    “In May 2010, liberal New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg tried to preemptively pin the Times Square bombing attempt on “someone with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill or something.” The culprit was unrepentant Muslim jihadist Faisal Shahzad.”

    Didn’t we learn something about Bloomberg’s business connections recently that adds another layer of nastiness to this?

  19. Allen wants his old seat back.

    Allen will tell supporters this week he’s seeking a VA-Sen rematch with Webb…

    “Allen, 58, the most prominent 2012 challenger to announce so far, has begun to line up key staff members. Webb, 64, who won by 1 percent, has sent mixed signals about whether he will seek reelection. DNC Chairman Tim Kaine, a former Virginia governor who could be the Democratic nominee if Webb bowed out, has been telling friends he thinks Webb will run. The rematch could be one of the hottest races in the country, especially if President Obama’s reelection campaign plays hard in the Old Dominion.”

  20. Just as well we canned this horrible woman.

    How Caroline Kennedy blackmailed Disney to scrap sexed-up Camelot series

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/kennedy_vs_kennedys_VYreXbMRZ1iTNptASKpeqM#ixzz1BIdSuvg9

    Caroline Kennedy blackmailed the History Channel to drop its new eight hour miniseries, The Kennedys, which was to air in March, according to the New York Post.

    “Kennedy had leveled an ultimatum to the companies — dump the reportedly warts- and-all miniseries or lose her cooperation in the planned fall release of never-before-heard conversations with her mother. Unless The Kennedys was killed, she’d cancel the release of the audiotapes on ABC and refuse to publicize the book of transcripts of the tapes to be released by Hyperion. ABC, A&E and Hyperion are all owned by Disney.”

  21. Caroline Kennedy blackmailed the History Channel to drop its new eight hour miniseries, The Kennedys, which was to air in March, according to the New York Post.

    “Kennedy had leveled an ultimatum to the companies — dump the reportedly warts- and-all miniseries or lose her cooperation in the planned fall release of never-before-heard conversations with her mother. Unless The Kennedys was killed, she’d cancel the release of the audiotapes on ABC and refuse to publicize the book of transcripts of the tapes to be released by Hyperion. ABC, A&E and Hyperion are all owned by Disney.”
    _________________

    I read about those tapes years ago and have been waiting patiently to hear them. I forget where I read about them, but apparently Jackie didn`t want them released until 2012. I wonder if Caroline will release them early.

  22. Timelines showing how Soros and elite’s anti-capitalist agenda planned to loot companies and our country.

    The AIG part of the crisis was ALL derivatives.
    That goddamned company was gambling with a lot of annuity money intended for retirees. AIG got it’s money back… retirees got screwed.

    Brooksley Born tried to warn Greenspan and Congress about the derivitives market and Greenspan, et. al., and Congress blew her off.

    Excellent FRONLINE video showing Greenspan’s ire at Born’s insolence questioning his decisions. This video is absolutely worth a watch if you’ve not seen it already.

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/george-soros%e2%80%99-anti-capitalist-agenda-plans-to-loot-companies-countries/

  23. Very telling….voters say no positive here for Obama.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2011/voters_give_obama_good_marks_for_arizona_response_see_no_lasting_political_change

    Most voters have a favorable opinion of President Obama’s response to the recent shootings in Arizona but feel the incident will have no lasting impact on the political debate in the country.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% give the president good or excellent marks for how he responded to the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and the killing of six others. Only 10% rate the president’s response which included a major speech to the nation as poor. Roughly one-out-of-ten Americans watched the speech.

    Only 19% of voters think the shooting incident will have a lasting positive impact on the nation’s political dialogue, while nearly as many (17%) predict it will have a lasting negative impact. But most voters (54%) say the incident will be forgotten and nothing will change.

    Republicans and voters not affiliated with either of the major parties feel more strongly than Democrats that the shootings will be forgotten and nothing will change. Members of the president’s party are much more optimistic than GOP voters and unaffiliateds that the incident will have a lasting positive impact on the nation’s political dialogue.

    Only 28% of Americans view the shootings in Arizona as the result of political anger in the country. Fifty-eight percent (58%) say instead that it was a random act of violence by an unstable person.

    Voters are clearly following the news out of Arizona. Eighty-eight percent (88%) say they have followed recent news reports about the shootings, with 55% who say they are following Very Closely.

    Female voters give the president higher marks for his response than males do. Voters ages 18 to 29 are more impressed with Obama’s response than their elders are.

    Eighty-six percent (86%) of Democrats rate the president’s response as good or excellent, a view shared by 38% of Republicans and 45% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties.

    Fifty-seven percent (57%) of those in the Mainstream say the shootings will be forgotten and have no impact on the nation’s political dialogue, but just 36% of Political Class voters agree.

    Most Americans agree that stronger gun control laws are not the answer to the Arizona incident. In fact, opposition to stricter gun control has hit a new high.

  24. Tarpley has plenty of international updates for us- WGT gives us a thumbnail summary of happenings created by the White House making the world go round and then some.

    Every Tree in the Arab Forest Might Fall

    Another figure worthy of mention is Robert Malley, a well-known US left-cover operative who currently heads the Middle East and North Africa program at the International Crisis Group (ICG), an organization reputed to run on money coughed up by George Soros and tactics dreamed up from Zbigniew Brzezinski.

    Malley was controversial during the 2008 presidential campaign because of the anti-Israeli posturing he affects, the better to dupe the Arab leaders he targets.

    Malley told the Washington Post of January 16, 2011 that every tree in the Arab forest could now be about to fall: “We could go through the list of Arab leaders looking in the mirror right now and very few would not be on the list.” Arab governments would be well advised to keep an eye on ICG operatives in their countries.

    Czar Cass Sunstein is now married to Samantha Power, who currently works in the White House National Security Council as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director (boss) of the Office of Multilateral Affairs and Human Rights – the precise bureaucratic home of destabilization operations like the one in Tunisia.

    Power, like Malley, is a veteran of the US intelligence community’s “human rights” division, which is a past master of using legitimate beefs about repression to to replace old US clients with new puppets in a never-ending process of restless subversion. Both Malley and Power were forced to tender pro forma resignations during the Obama presidential campaign of 2008 – Malley for talking to Hamas, and Power for an obscene tirade against Hillary Clinton, who is now her bureaucratic rival.
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    …. Hillary’s rivalry is music to our ears!

  25. What I like so much about Tarpley’s writings are they are fact filled. WGT deviates substantially from using anecdotal stories to make his case in easy readable form for the everyday reader without compromising the facts into the world of presupposition, wishful thinking or fantasy. Tarpley’s writing style works for people who prefer reading just the facts, mam, just the facts and in the end coming to our own conclusions. Then again, there are those who prefer romancing the stone, the usual journalistic style we are accustomed to-

  26. Mrs. Smith: Thanx for the reference to Tarpley’s site. I’ll get to it tomorrow.

    With all the facts in his writings (and speeches), it’s hard to avoid coming to the same conclusions as Tarpley, so much for “in the end coming to our own conclusions). You know he starts out from an anti-oligarchic standpoint, which colors and determines all of the “just the facts, ma’am” he lays out, so it’s not surprising he comes to anti-oligarchic conclusions.

    BTW, has he answered your question about whether or not he considers himself to be a socialist? I doubt he would assume that, or any other, label. My reason for saying he is a socialist is that I’ve looked at his proposals for “ending the crisis” through my socialist eyeglasses and agree with every point he makes; plus, these proposals all call for sharp government intervention at various points in the economy, which is only acceptable to socialists.

    Then, there’s what he says about (socialist) Europe, contending that the EU is oligarchic but not the individual countries; that (socialist) France, Germany and Sweden fared pretty well in the crisis but are currently in the hands of the right wing, stymying the additional anti-bank efforts that are needed.

    I could go on in support of my contention that he is a socialist, but I still don’t think he would come right out and say it. No thinking person wants to assume a label, and “socialist” is a very bad label to assume in America.

  27. Via NYT….front page Drudge.

    Az Shooter was a Bush hater…..watch the Dem talking heads explode.

    Quote :

    But Jared, a curious teenager who at times could be intellectually intimidating, stood out because of his passionate opinions about government — and his obsession with dreams.

    He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country’s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.

    “I think he feels the people should be able to govern themselves,” said Ms. Figueroa, his former girlfriend. “We didn’t need a higher authority.”

  28. jesweezy,

    “You know he starts out from an anti-oligarchic standpoint, which colors and determines all of the “just the facts, ma’am” he lays out, so it’s not surprising he comes to anti-oligarchic conclusions.”
    ________________

    Don’t you? Or better said, shoudn’t you/we?
    ____________________________________

    “BTW, has he answered your question about whether or not he considers himself to be a socialist? I doubt he would assume that, or any other, label. My reason for saying he is a socialist is that I’ve looked at his proposals for “ending the crisis” through my socialist eyeglasses and agree with every point he makes; plus, these proposals all call for sharp government intervention at various points in the economy, which is only acceptable to socialists.”
    _______________________________________

    Yes, he did, jesweezy, the very next day there was a reply in my mailbox, which I posted here for you.
    _________________________________

    “I could go on in support of my contention that he is a socialist, but I still don’t think he would come right out and say it. No thinking person wants to assume a label, and “socialist” is a very bad label to assume in America.”
    ________________________

    So, you presume to label before you actually know his pov… not a good thing, jesweezy. Take off the “socialist” eyeglasses and read the reply I receieved from Bruce Marshall, his right arm and co-writer for most of his books.
    ______________________________

    I’ll repost the response I posted to you shortly after I said I would.. Apparently, you had little faith a response was forthcoming. (note the date of the reply)
    OK, you’re forgiven… it was NYE…
    __________________

    December 31, 2010

    Dear xxxx ,

    I hope that you are doing well or rather excellent!

    Now for your question…and while Webster may want to speak for himself, I am sure I have the leeway to say this-

    Webster is decidedly a modern representative of the Franklin-Hamiltonian Federalist patriots whose political economic philosophy was later termed in the mid 19th century through economist Fredrich List and Henry C. Carey as the American School System of Political-Economy.

    Our problems today stem from the fact that the American System of Economics is no longer practiced nor even known by those people who should know better. Abraham Lincoln Lincoln and FDR are recognized as defenders of the American System as was JFK.
    Today what we have is fascist of both the left and right camps controlling power and using a fake dialectic to stay in power.

    Obama as Web first identified is a nihilistic fascist socialist serving socialism for Wall Street while he destroys the true economic capabilities of the the nation. On the other side we have the Austrian School fascists, from New Gingrich to Rand Paul all calling, along with Obama for massive cuts to further the fallacy of a balanced budget, eager to kill people to get there.

    Remember that the Founding Fathers did not fight to install the “Austrian School” into power, but where in fact enemies of Adam Smith and his free trade capitalism, which is not what the American Revolution was about, but to stop this British poison through the creation of a nation that’s mission is to promote the general welfare.

    Remember also that Marxism was created to attack the American System, to which Marx stole the idea of the labor theory of value from Alexander Hamilton! Marx was a creation of the British system of monetarist free trade, our present enemy.

    Today Webster is calling for a Wall Street Transfer Tax, the Nationalization of the Federal Reserve, shutting down the Zombie banks, instituting measures to get America working again through/by the creation of credit not for Wall Street gambling, but for long term infrastructure projects from power, rail, water, etc…

    That is a brief, brief but the history is important to understand…

    Have a great new year.

    Bruce
    ________________________

    Well, there you have it. Tarpley supports Hillary Clinton. That should be your first tipoff, he is in our camp. The rest, I will leave up to you to report back on your conclusions.

  29. An interesting letter…

    If a woman ran the United States

    Date published: 1/17/2011

    Hooray for the women of Brazil! On Jan. 1, Dilma Rousseff became Brazil’s first female president. How long will the United States remain the only industrialized nation in the world to shun a woman’s right to lead?

    I am convinced there is a fear piercing the heads of certain Americans, an unspoken fear no one will admit or even quietly discuss. Why else was such a radical and highly suspect campaign used to defeat Hillary Clinton in her race for the presidency? Does anyone seriously believe that she was not the most qualified Democrat running?

    When Sarah Palin hit the scene as a VP candidate, the media torched her like a 1955 yard-cross in Mississippi. She has charisma and brains. Yet media maggots made history in their attempt to slay Palin. Why? The answer is a fear of power in the hands of any woman.

    Women, wake up and unite! It’s time to fight, as our grandmothers did when they were finally given voting rights as though it were a gift. Palin or another bright female could be the best thing to happen to America since apple pie (she can bake) and Facebook (she can also Tweet).

    There would be no bowing or apologies made round the world. She could multi-task, stir the political pot, strain off years of rancid tallow, and replace that pork with fresh intelligence, along with a single agenda–to repair our nation. She would spend less time on the golf course and touting her programs and more time creating jobs, protecting our borders, slashing government spending, and leading our nation.

    How long will it take before We the Women scrub sex discrimination from our White House doors? Ladies, prepare to expunge the old-boys’ presidential club and watch positive changes promote the world’s most powerful yet benevolent nation: America.

    Joyce Lloyd

    Spotsylvania

  30. “How long will it take before We the Women scrub sex discrimination from our White House doors? Ladies, prepare to expunge the old-boys’ presidential club and watch positive changes promote the world’s most powerful yet benevolent nation: America.”
    ______________________

    That would be a very sad epitaph for all of us IF we didn’t know or have someone in mind more than qualified to take our country, and for that matter the world, out of the doldrums the powers that be are taking us to. Taking the onus out of the hands of the Bankers and the gluttonous rich.

    It is mind boggling just thinking what it will take having Hillary Clinton lead the world’s only Superpower into this century when the opposition is so prevalent and so $trong.

  31. Mrs. Smith: Thanks for re-posting. I miss a day from time to time, and missed your first posting.

    “Well, there you have it. Tarpley supports Hillary Clinton. That should be your first tipoff, he is in our camp. The rest, I will leave up to you to report back on your conclusions.”

    Well, as I thought, WGT can’t be or doesn’t want to be pigeonholed, and shouldn’t be. Bruce’s assertion that Marx stole the labor theory of value from my hero Alexander Hamilton is puzzling; but in any case that theory isn’t of much value, to my mind.

    I’ll have to look up List and Carey if I want to fathom the depths of WGT’s thinking.

    In my own economic training in the 60’s-70’s, I diverged from my economics professors when they asked the questions “What is the purpose of studying economics? What do we want to do with it?” Their answer was that we wanted to pursue growth – bigger GDP. My answer was that we wanted to pursue the people’s well-being, which I felt was a fundamentally different goal. “Growth”, to me, was an empty concept.

    Over the ensuing decades, I have found that the Europeans generally answered that question the same way I did, which is why we Americans spurn Europeans as “socialists”. And what do we have now in the US? Even as the recession worsens, GDP is increasing. Economists looking at the gross figures can be happy. Wall Street’s share of GDP is 25% and growing, health care’s share is 18% and growing, the military-industrial complex is growing, so the gross figures are good. But down in the street, things are bad and getting worse.

    As I said above, I’ve looked at WGT’s proposals for ending the crisis; they all require sharp government intervention in the economy to shut down the banking casinos, help the little guy in the street and advance the country as a whole, technologically and industrially. This is what I witnessed in Europe over the decades. Bruce refers to 19th century philosophy to explain WGT’s thinking, but we are in the 21st century, and actions like these are… socialist.

  32. It is mind boggling just thinking what it will take having Hillary Clinton lead the world’s only Superpower into this century when the opposition is so prevalent and so $trong.

    ———
    Mrs. S. sometimes I feel the same way, but last time we were not as aware of how dirty the Pretender and his thugs would become until the O’machine was already in place and cranked up.

    Barry won’t have PUMAs on his side in 2012…the only question is how many of Hillary’s 18 million scurried over to vote for him because they didn’t want a rethug to win? I know quite a few Hillary supporters that were not smart enough to become PUMAs.

    Instead of just ‘Nader’ fighting the system, there are more defectors:

    On the right – the tea party people. They are against Barry, but also the establishment Rethug party.

    On the left – PUMAs.

    In the middle – Independents, many are PUMAs that couldn’t go to the Rethug party.

  33. moononpluto
    January 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    Via NYT….front page Drudge.

    Az Shooter was a Bush hater…..watch the Dem talking heads explode.

    Quote :

    But Jared, a curious teenager who at times could be intellectually intimidating, stood out because of his passionate opinions about government — and his obsession with dreams.

    He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country’s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.

    “I think he feels the people should be able to govern themselves,” said Ms. Figueroa, his former girlfriend. “We didn’t need a higher authority.”
    *********************************************************************

    …at the risk of sounding redundant…I would bet there is so much more to this part of the story than we are getting or probably will ever get…some may recall I mentioned a friend who moved to Arizona from LA…and she went from a fair minded, intelligent person…to someone completely obsessed with conspiracy theories…and there was no reasoning or other explanation for any of the theories…she would post all kinds of stuff and photos of groups and meetings she was involved with…they were very far left…almost anacharist…they were very opposed to bush, big Cindy Sheehan supporters, supported Cynthia McKinney…and then O

    **********************************************

    we will never hear the story of the far left in Arizona and how militant and obsessed they were, re 911, chem trails, bildenburg, etc, etc, etc…we will never hear about how irrational some of those people are…you will not see the media interview those in the 911 movement there…if this was a ‘birther’ there would be wide coverage

    I do not state any of this to condone either side…birther or 911 truther, however I do repeat this to emphasize how the media is covering this story (perfect example is the one stated above on how ABC tried to hide the obvious at their townhall meeting)

    the media will never report that side of the story…if this guy had any leadings towards the conservatives we would have heard about it ad nauseum…

    but we will never hear about the point where the crazies and extremes on the far left and far right meet and merge from both sides to represent almost anarchy and sadly I think this is where the “loner” was and was influenced…where there is no reasoning anymore, everything is motivated by anger and lashing out against “the other”

  34. http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Christian-doctor-assaulted-in-Mosul-20516.html

    My heart breaks for Christians in this country and in the middle east in general. The France PM was correct in this statements last week about what is happening to Christians in the Middle East.

    “Another targeted attack against Christians in Iraq. On the afternoon of 15 January a group of unidentified criminals entered the Rabi’a hospital, a private clinic in the Sukar district in Mosul and shot a Christian doctor who worked there at point blank range. The gun had a silencer, and the doctor was fortunately only seriously wounded”

  35. jesweezy,

    “Bruce refers to 19th century philosophy to explain WGT’s thinking, but we are in the 21st century, and actions like these are… socialist.”
    _______________________________

    To a point but with caveats. Bruce has laid out the foundation of WT’s thinking. Knowing Bruce as I do, his reference is subliminaly directed to the policies implemented by FDR (20th century) when the country was in shambles after the Great Depression. FDR sent thousands of the unemployed to the State Parks and public lands to build the structures at Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, etc the many great national parks and recreational lands we still enjoy today. And I agree, using the government as an employer is socialist but a temporary remedy for the state of dreadful poverty concluded by a sunset provision once the country rises to their feet.

    Unfortunately, Obama has skewed that formula hiring at least 177,000 executives bloating his administration to an all time high more than any other administration before him. Then again, Obama isn’t FDR and his agenda never was in the interests of the nation. His only interest is in his own future when he is out of the WH.

  36. Is it ok if I hang out here? A lot of the other blogs I usually hang out at — it’s like half of the people there have gone crazy this past week. Primary Insanity 2012 has begun.

  37. votermom,

    Welcome. What’s been going on at other blogs? Is it the palin’s responsible for the Az shootings talking point? please elaborate. Personally I’d love to hear what you’ve been reading..

  38. VM welcome…
    all points of view are appreciated.
    the variety of people here makes it one of the best places to get a variety of viewpoints.
    helps that admin and some of the other posters here are brilliant 😉

  39. wow, just wow. We saw this against Hillary, and then they used the same tactics (and worse) against Sarah.
    Waffles and his thugs really are just that, all of them are Chicago thugs.

    http://texas4palin.blogspot.com/2011/01/stacy-mccain-obama-campaign-created.html

    from the article:

    “The tactic of blaming Palin for “racist anger” toward Obama developed as a theme during the fall campaign, evidently based on post hoc ergo propter hoc thinking within Team Obama. Threats against Obama increased as the campaign heated up after Labor Day, and since this followed the Aug. 29 announcement of the Alaska governor as Republican running mate, Palin herself was scapegoated.

    That claim was distilled in a November article in the London Daily Telegraph with the misleading headline, “Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama.”

    The Secret Service never said any such thing and the Telegraph‘s story didn’t actually say that they had said it. Rather, Telegraph reporter Tim Shipman was paraphrasing a Newsweek account of the campaign that quoted Obama adviser Gregory Craig in mid-October expressing concern about “the frenzied atmosphere at the Palin rallies.” The same paragraph of the Newsweek story asserted (without attribution) that the Obama campaign had been “provided with reports from the Secret Service showing a sharp and very disturbing increase in threats to Obama in September and early October.”

    It was the Obama campaign, not the Secret Service, which suggested a connection between the “frenzied atmosphere” around Palin and the threats. Obama himself appeared to believe there was such a connection, raising it in his final debate with John McCain.

  40. Is it the palin’s responsible for the Az shootings talking point?
    Yes. And why hasn’t she apologized yet.
    *rolls eyes*
    Whatever happened to logic and facts, I do not know.

    Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone!

  41. Shadowfax
    January 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    _________________

    I agree, we won’t be as blindsided as last time. However, the opposition has grown stronger as well and we haven’t any idea what their plans are except to assume they will Lie, Cheat and Steal to Win the election. From what we understand, Soros is placing Sect of States in all the battleground states, Sect to his liking- and is in the process of doing the same with District Court Judges that will rule on any voting issues that may come in front of him in the course of counting the votes. 😆

  42. votermom, WMCB here. 🙂

    I expect things to get very shrill, indeed leading up to 2012. Everyone is frustrated, and there are really no good choices.

    A friend of mine recently started blogging, and he posted my thoughts (some of which you’ve already read) on the whole “Don’t you dare defend the Right on anything!!!” brouhaha over there.

    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/dont-be-a-hater/

    Buckle up. Methinks it’s all going to get ugly.

  43. Welcome, Voter Mom-

    Let us know what is going on outside our pink microcosim here. We’d love to know who and where…

  44. Normally I don’t watch Glenn Beck, don’t have the time, but today’s episode so far has been very educational.

  45. hiya HFT/WMCB and votermom ~ been lurking over here for awhile and decided to sign up for here. Weird whats going on…. oh well. I’m going to keep gravitating toward the sane!

  46. A Shropshire Lad
    By Houseman

    Since the world has still
    Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure 45
    Luck’s a chance, but trouble’s sure,
    I’d face it as a wise man would,
    And train for ill and not for good.
    ’Tis true, the stuff I bring for sale
    Is not so brisk a brew as ale: 50
    Out of a stem that scored the hand
    I wrung it in a weary land.
    But take it: if the smack is sour,
    The better for the embittered hour;
    It should do good to heart and head 55
    When your soul is in my soul’s stead;
    And I will friend you, if I may,
    In the dark and cloudy day.

    There was a king reigned in the East:
    There, when kings will sit to feast,
    They get their fill before they think
    With poisoned meat and poisoned drink.
    He gathered all the springs to birth
    From the many-venomed earth;
    First a little, thence to more,
    He sampled all her killing store;
    And easy, smiling, seasoned sound,
    Sate the king when healths went round.
    They put arsenic in his meat
    And stared aghast to watch him eat;
    They poured strychnine in his cup
    And shook to see him drink it up:
    They shook, they stared as white’s their shirt:
    Them it was their poison hurt.
    —I tell the tale that I heard told. 75
    Mithridates, he died old.
    ——————————
    A couple days ago, the unthinkable dawned on me. The very likely possibility that Obama will get a second term. As I began thinking about this obscenity seriously, I moved past despondency to a sober realization of how he will do it, and what must be done to stop him if we want to have a country left. I must tell you that I have grave doubts about the Republicans ability to pull this thing off but if they want to have a party left, they had better. We are dealing with cannibals here and the RINOS will be inclined to defect, because they cannot take the heat. But the only way we have any chance–Independents and Republicans of defeating this scourge is to study the history of the 2008 election–because we will see many of the same strategies and people. Nothing succeeds like success until the other side figures it our.

    I posted this at another website in response to a statement by an excellent blogger who is excellent but made the point that our girl is running the country via blackberry. She is doing everything she can do on foreign affairs under the constraints which Obama and his Chicago thugs have imposed. So that was my point of departure. But that will not solve the domestic problems facing the country and that is my primary concern. The only way that will happen is if something changes and she does decide to run in 2012. Short of that the concern must be country first and party no more.

    wbboei
    I do not think Hillary or anyone else is running the country. Forget about it. The country is in free fall and most of our politicians are lining their own pockets and have written off the middle class. For the two parties to sit next to each
    other at the State of the Union, is typical of the smoke and mirrors that passes for leadership. I love these memes which say that Wall Street has recovered, big business has recovered and on main street you are now seeing green shoots, Boys and girls the fundamentals are not there,. Indeed, China’s announcement that the dollar is kaput, is more important than any of the rest of this crap, because it means we can no longer export our inflation to the world. It also means that the traitor Soros has achieved his ultimate objective which is to bring down the United States–it is like reading Mein Kompf he tells you what he will do and then he does it. In a rational universe, Jay Cost would be spot on when he says jobs, deficit and health care in that order will determine whether the fraud in the white house gets a second term. Here is how he will do it: first, he will get big media to attack whoever the Republican candidate is They will saturate the airways with pro Obama headlines, and stack their panels with his people. Second, he will create a Reichstag Fire on the eve of the election, which has worked twice for him now–the stock market collapse on the eve of the last election and the Tuscon incident which caused a temporary sure in his approval rating, which could be conveniently timed to the next election. Third, he will cheat, just like he cheated in the primary, voting machines and legions of union thugs. With a billion dollars to play with, a lap dog big media, and an ignorant electorate he is well positioned to steal another election. I used to believe in the wisdom of juries and the wisdom of the American Public. But after seeing what happened in 2008 and the polls, I am convinced that HL Mechen was right that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American People. It is far worse today than it was in his time because our software is different, devoid of values, and susceptible to the kind of mass psychology and mass manipulation which our media today is so good–or bad if you prefer-at. Yes, seeing is believing And although Obama will abandon the left, he will get someone to whisper in their ear if you support me in the next election I will have four years to implement your agenda and I will do it with executive orders if I have to. So tell me where I am wrong. I am not wedded to this thesis, but it is definitely the way it looks to me. And if he succeeds it will destroy the country, that much you can be sure of.

    If I were devising a counter strategy, the first thing I would do is study Plouffe’s book. the history of the primary, the trail of broken promises, the metrics which have gotten worse since The Puppet took office, the big money behind him, and the Ulsterman article which shows how big media betrayed it calling and installed this joker and will protect him to their dying day. I would put it together into a video. The next thing I would do since Obama will try to move to the center as is evident with the selection of Reed and Daley is not let anyone forget the toxic legislation and the payola which characterized his first two years–because if he wins in 2012 that is but a harbinger of things to come. He is a dictator and nothing will hold him back. Part of that will involve torpedoing Obama care and replacing it with a sensible alternative, even though it will be bottled up in the Senate or vetoed. Third, I would do whatever I could to bring down big media. I was speaking on Friday to an old friend who was communications director to a former congressman who was Sarah Palin before there was a Sarah Palin. She was attractive, personable and a conservative lightening rod. Big Media went so far to libel her as to put her picture of the front page of a Gannett newspaper along side a picture of Adolf Hitler, That is how they operate. Ironically, I happened to play golf with the editor of that newspaper years later. She told me she respected the congressman, tha she always told the truth and they did it to sell newpapers. In fact, it was more a case of the group think we see in big media. The communications director told me that the only kind of Republican big media gives positive press to is one who kowtows to them. That theory explains their withering attacks first on Hillary (a democrat) and later Sarah, Neither of them would kowtow to big media, and that was the real motivation for the attacks. Big media is not a gatekeeper, and not an honest broker and anyone who looks to them for those virtues after what we have witnessed since 2007, I shall not scuruple to call a fool. Big media may read the left wing blogs, but it is big media itself who still can swing elections, hence they are the shanker sore that needs to be lanced and injected with penicillin. cnn, nbc, msnbc, abc, nyt–the usual suspects.

  47. @H4T: A friend of mine recently started blogging, and he posted my thoughts (some of which you’ve already read) on the whole “Don’t you dare defend the Right on anything!!!” brouhaha over there.
    —————

    Couple of commenters ganged up on me and twisted everything I said on John Smart’s blog calling me a Palin supporter, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh follower. I mentioned how Obama may have undermined the prosecutors case by saying in his speech that the Judge was there to say Hi to his friend Gabby — highlighting in essence what a Politico article was saying. Prosecutors can be more effective if they said the judge was there to talk business. Obama was repeating a lazy ass reporter’s line in his speech. I still don’t understand why the commenters thought I was a righty.

    But the viciousness with which those people went after me was quite a surprise. Many of these blogs of Hillary supporters are terrified that they come across as sympathetic to the right or the repubs. It is kind of ridiculous how they walk on egg shells all the time.

  48. pm317, complete paranoia is running wild. People are seeing Rove’s Secret Sleeper Agents under every rock. Evidently getting their ass kicked with the electorate does not drive the Left to look to see WHY the public is rejecting them, or seriously address any of the concerns that actually caused it. They’d rather run around smugly whispering to one another, “See! I knew they were agents of the enemy all along…”

    It would be hilarious if it weren’t so damn sad.

  49. Welcome Votermom.
    I came over from another blog awhile back and love these big Pinkers. 😆

    ——

    Mrs. Smith
    January 17th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Shadowfax
    January 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    _________________

    I agree, we won’t be as blindsided as last time. However, the opposition has grown stronger as well and we haven’t any idea what their plans are except to assume they will Lie, Cheat and Steal to Win the election. From what we understand, Soros is placing Sect of States in all the battleground states, Sect to his liking- and is in the process of doing the same with District Court Judges that will rule on any voting issues that may come in front of him in the course of counting the votes. 😆

    ———
    I agree Mrs. S. that the Big Cheat is talking place behind the smoke and mirrors, but at least we know that the Obamacrats and the Rethugs will be scamming the voters to buy their snake oil. We no longer see the Democrats as the white knights any longer, only a few of our heros are still trying to fight for what we believe in. Like Admin says, if we have to frickin’ burn down the O’Democratic Party to get Barry and his thugs out, then light the torches and keep spreading the word to all those disenfranchised Obots that are crashing down from mainlining the Kool-aid. We will put on our Jack boots and take our pitchforks to the voting booths in 2012, hopefully to the caucus states that were bulling gentler Hillary voters.

    Primary Obama, for the sake of our country.

    Rethugs are only our tools.

  50. indigogrrl
    January 17th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    moderation? on my 1st ever comment! please let me go!
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    Keep in mind, only one link can get though a post…if that is the problem.

  51. Shadow-

    I don’t believe in crying softly into my sleeve and thinking ‘whoa is me’ because the Big guys are tightening the noose. Then again, we need scrappers, people ready to defend our way of life and fight for it tooth and nail. The Palin folks have to join with us to fight the bullys. I think there are plenty of Palinites here and the prospect of inviting them here might be agreeable to them. That is, if Sarah doesn’t run.. Anyone disagree?

  52. Welcome,Votermom!

    I drop in at that Other Blog occasionally. Saw some really good nuanced discussion about Palin tempting her critics to shoot themselves in the foot (yes, we CAN say that here).

    Over here we mostly applaud Palin (tho I and other Leftists disagree with her conservative policies).

  53. Mrs. S.

    Most of the Palin supporters I know, supported Hillary and would rather vote for Sarah than any other Rethug. I agree that on the scale of Republican’s Sarah is much more to my liking.

    Sarah is no replacement for Hillary, not even close, but I certainly like Sarah and women like Jan Brewer even if I don’t agree with some of their policies.

  54. TurnDownObama, the Left really went crazy and goes crazy when it comes to Sarah Palin. For instance, we still do not know what her policy is on gay issues. What she did in Alaska on gay issues was wildly misrepresented by the Left. When Palin “retweeted” an article which was pro repeal of DADT instead of applause there was derision from the Left. As far as we can tell Palin’s policy on gay issues is very close to Barack Obama’s. Somehow though, we sense that she is more comfortable around gay people and gay issues that Obama (and certainly John Edwards) is.

    It would be great to have a “civil” discussion on what exactly Palin has said on the issues and keep the discussion free of diversions regarding her intellect or motivations. But that is exactly the type of discussion the Left wants to prevent. What the Left wants is to mock Palin, demonize Palin and remake her into an “extremist”. Her history as mayor and governor belie that characterization but that does not stop the left from engaging in a not “civil” discussion embroidered with lies and fear mongering spiced with misogyny.

    We have disagreements with Palin, particularly on abortion. If she runs for president Palin deserves full and fair scrutiny of her history, experience, and policy positions. If that time comes, we will examine what needs examination. To the extent that we “applaud” Palin it is because she enjoys a fight and is not afraid to engage. Does this hurt her at times? Yes. Is she to be applauded for taking on Big Media and the DailyKooks who have accused her with vile lies (lies such as her husband incestuously impregnated the daughter and Palin pretends the baby is hers)? We think so.

    We’ll applaud Palin when she deserves applause and smack Palin when she deserves a smack (NB to thought police: no violence is intended by our “smack” talk).

  55. Thanks for the reminder Admin, will watch Sarah Palin when the interview comes on. She seems to be very impressive so far.

    I get the same sense when it come to her comfortness, I do remember she vetoed a bill that would have discriminated gay/lesbians as state employees. Of course the left will never even bring that up now, although at the time as she was no threat to them, all the liberal media appauled her then.

  56. Clinton calls women’s progress inevitable

    Published: Jan. 17, 2011

    ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates, Jan. 17 (UPI) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has told Arab students sexist attitudes persist, even in the United States, but women will keep pushing forward.

    “There still are attitudes, even in my country, about a woman’s place, a woman’s role,” Clinton said when interviewed last week by the hosts of the Middle East Broadcasting Corp.’s “Kalam Nawaem” (“Sweet Talk”) show, which is modeled on the U.S. TV show “The View,” at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi. “… And yet it doesn’t represent the trends, the historic trends. … I really think that we’re getting to a point where we’ll see less and less of that going forward.”

    She praised the United Arab Emirates, which she was visiting at the time of the Jan. 10 interview.

    “I’m in a country that has made a real commitment to education and to the inclusion of women in many if not all, aspects of society,” she said.

    She also lamented stereotypes of Arab women as oppressed, saying there needs to be “a much more comprehensive and complex view of women’s roles in this part of the world or in many parts of the world.”

    “I think it comes from a lack of awareness or understanding that needs to be slowly but surely changed. … I can’t take all 300 million Americans on my plane. But through the media, I can communicate a different message.”

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/01/17/Clinton-calls-womens-progress-inevitable/UPI-15631295305072/

  57. Makes me very sad to see what is done to strong women politicians, first Hillary and now Sarah. Makes me very sad. This latest episode with Palin is the worst I have ever seen, it was so quick and so “in your face”, it was hard to ignore.

  58. Admin
    How true about the Obama supporters (I will not call them lefties because I don’t think they really are). My obot friend was an intelligent, extremely pro woman, successful businesswoman – until her over educated and elitist son and daughter decided to get into politics in 2008. They all despise Palin as stupid and vapid. No matter how often I call her on the misogyny, she can’t see it when it comes to trashing Palin and supporting everything Obama does. I can see it makes her uncomfortable when I call her out, but she can’t break the cycle.

  59. tim
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
    Makes me very sad to see what is done to strong women politicians, first Hillary and now Sarah. Makes me very sad. This latest episode with Palin is the worst I have ever seen, it was so quick and so “in your face”, it was hard to ignore.
    ***********************
    It was so quick because it had been planned before just waiting for an incident to launch the attack. All the dems and the media had been primed for this. That’s how much they fear her strength and lack of fear of Obama.

  60. “Sarah is no replacement for Hillary, not even close, but I certainly like Sarah and women like Jan Brewer even if I don’t agree with some of their policies.”
    ____________________

    Success is in the strength of the army surrounding the candidate with the fight within them to help them Win.

    Not that it’s any measure of Sarah’s electability but I don’t believe she would ever gain the support of the RNC.. she would be off on her own drawing fringe republicans, ullied democrats besides her own supporters. Not only that, there isn’t enough time to get organized with front men and strategists diverting the flack coming her way rather than having her wasting time answering bogus charges. Don’t forget she will have Obama’s operatives, the media AND the Republicans fighting her candidacy using mountains of money for campaign ads.

    Hillary’s campaign is the prime example of how hard it is going it alone and she is well known, well liked and a seasoned player. Preparation, plans and strategies have to be in place before you even begin to stand a chance at winning.. If you can be beaten on the chessboard before you even get started, it is wiser to wait for another day.

    I like Sarah. Her heart is in the right place and that is exactly what the Republicans hate about her… she won’t continue the corruption game, they know that, and why they won’t support her or let her into their club.

  61. “it had been planned before just waiting for an incident to launch the attack.”

    No truer words have been posted, yes, it was all preplanned, and the thing that amazed me is that they thought independent thinking Americans would not see through this, the loyal drone Obots would not, but independent minded people saw this onslaught against Palin immediately.
    It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen by this so-called “mainstream media”, they are nothing but footsoldiers for Waffles and the demonrats. They did it to Hillary, and now doing it to Palin.

  62. Hannity is calling Ron Reagan’s son’s claim that he was suffering from Alzheimers in the WH shocking. I can remember one of the blonde women big time reporters telling a story years ago of when she went to the WH to interview Reagan. She went to the doorway of his office and called his name. He was staring into space and did not respond. She called his name again and he turned with a far off look in his eyes. Finally, he clicked back into focus and saw her. Her point was that he was experiencing early affects of the disease then. I think it was Leslie Stahl who told this story many years ago. So this is not a new idea.

  63. Mrs. Smith,

    It feels as if the men in politics are scared silly of women in politics, i.e. Hillary and Sarah. And just like what they did to Hillary, they are going to do to Sarah if she continues to speak up.

    What makes this so horrid is that their own parties are the culprits. Each party is laying in wait, sharpening their poisoness claws to jump on both women in they get too out of line.

    All the same, even without her well-earned potus mantle, Hillary is running circles around the rest of the party and her accomplishments continue to number way ahead of bimbo’s.

  64. No words for this, absolutely no words.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110117/lf_afp/pakistanchildreninfanticide

    “KARACHI (AFP) – The lifeless bodies of two tiny babies are being given their final bath before burial in Karachi, after they were left to die in the southern Pakistani city’s garbage dumps.

    “They can only have been one or two days old,” says volunteer worker Mohammad Saleem, pointing at the two small corpses being gently washed by his colleagues at a charity’s morgue.

    In the conservative Muslim nation, where the birth of children outside of marriage is condemned and adultery is a crime punishable by death under strict interpretations of Islamic law, infanticide is a crime on the rise.

    …The number of dead infants found last year — 1,210 — was up from 890 in 2008 and 999 in 2009, says the Edhi Foundation manager in Karachi, Anwar Kazmi.

    Kazmi recounts the discovery of the burnt body of a six-day-old infant who had been strangled. Another child was found on the steps of a mosque having been stoned to death on the orders of an extremist imam who has since disappeared, he says”

  65. tim
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    —————-
    How tragic. I can’t believe how barbaric some laws still are.

  66. “Clinton calls women’s progress inevitable”

    What a wonderful inspiration this woman is. Thanks for posting this article.

  67. HRC seems to be stepping up her efforts to spread far and wide her hopes for the future for women, the country and the world. Does this mean she is getting closer to stepping down or is she just more comfortable adding her personal touch to the Sec of State role? She’s done this all along but it seems more deliberate now.

  68. BCL

    “It was so quick because it had been planned before just waiting for an incident to launch the attack. All the dems and the media had been primed for this. That’s how much they fear her strength and lack of fear of Obama.”
    ________________________

    Loner was a Hinckley prototype spurred into action committing a vile heinous act by an external force driving this kid. His personal thoughts and feelings were all over facebook, it wasn’t a difficult task for a CiA operative throwing Loner into a tailspin focusing his mind on a mission to terminate Giffords.

    Who the operative was or the facebook pal encouraging him to go though with his delusions may or may not ever be determined because the authorities won’t be looking there. (It could be done by the time lines and his contacts encouraging him to buy a gun before he did in November.) From the get-go, as I immediately knew, the target was Sarah Palin and the backstory I learned later on was Giffords herself. She was promoting Centrism/Third Way/Clintonism to her fellow colleagues. (Do you think the Obama/Soros clan wanted anyone as popular and smart as Giffords instructing disgruntled Democrats a way to think and vote outside an Obamacracy?) The operative plan was killing 2 3 birds with one stone.

    The attempt was to tarnish Palin’s reputation drawing supporters away from her marginalizing her as a presidential candidate. This is all it ever was… as a matter of fact, I believe, Loner and Giffords were assumed to both be dead at this point in time as the wrap up to this plan… If Loner has a lucid moment when he feels secure enough to talk, he may still provide answers that yet may surprise us all.

  69. JanH
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Do you by any chance have a link to the speech Hillary gave at this event? Sometimes online the speech is posted, I could not find it for this event though.

  70. Mrs. Smith
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    I’m not on Facebook so don’t really know how it works, but if there was a Facebook pal, can it be disappeared, as they say? I know his friends had not seen as much of him at the end, so another contact could be possible. The dumb Sheriff would be worthless investigating this, but how about the FBI?

  71. Loughner surviving the shooting was a major slip up if the shooting was a plot. Who was supposed to take him out. Food for thought.

  72. Tim, a little tangential to threats you were talking about up further upthread – I’ve read two different articles which cited the FBI as saying that Obama has not had any more threats than any other president. But the MSM will tell you differently! Personally, I think it started in the primaries, remember, he got secret service coverage long before candidates usually do, I think that and its publicization was an attempt to manipulate voters to feel sorry for him and vote for him.

  73. The thing about Palin, IMO, is that she doesn’t need to be president first. She can run for president, as many people do, with the odds greatly against them. But they use the campaign time and visibility to become better known and present their ideas, and they may very well be chosen for VP.

    There are things I like a lot about Palin, and things I don’t. The thing is, she was only a governor for 2.5 years, then she ran for VP. Seems like a big jump to then become president, especially with all the animosity that her gender inspires. Her path may be smoother if she is picked as a VP, then once again show her stuff while in office, performing a job. Then later she could run for president.

    Anyway, my point is, it wouldn’t be a failure to become VP.

    Plus, I really think she’s going to have to learn to modulate her voice more if she wants to be president. The wild voice is okay at some times, but she has to speak more often in the serious, modulated tone she has done a couple of times since the AZ shootings to be taken seriously as presidential material by a wide swath of people, IMO.

  74. One big reason why I admire Palin. She seems to distinguish levels.

    At one level, some old statements suggest that she doesn’t want to encourage ‘gay marriage’ (or she thinks most Alaskans don’t).

    At another level, she vetoed a bill that would have kept gay partners of govt employees from getting benefits. She didn’t talk morality or gay rights. She did the math and said it would cost more to defend the bill in court than to just pay the darn benefits.

    At another level, she talks about not moralistly judging, not second-guessing God.

    On abortion, she herself strongly opposes it but wants to end it by more contraception (“I’m all about contraception”) rather than by legal maneuvers.

    I admire this sort of multi-level thinking, principled.

  75. Oh, in case anyone is wondering, yes, I do see a different trajectory for Sarah than for Hillary. Hillary has waaaaaaay more experience, and more varied, than Sarah. And her usual mode of speech isn’t like that of an excited schoolgirl, quite frankly! Hillary projects more composure and modulated voice. Sarah can learn that, but Hillary has always had it.

  76. I’ve read two different articles which cited the FBI as saying that Obama has not had any more threats than any other president.

    =============

    True, but if anyone is searching, it was a Secret Service person who said that, not the FBI.

  77. lorac, the “bogus threat claims” were debunked when the Secret Service testified before congress after the party-crasher affair.

    Some windbag congressman went off on how the threats to Obama were so much more numerous, weren’t they? And the SS denied that under oath – said his threat level or number of threats were no more or no less than other presidents.

    The Obama campaign made that shit up, then fed it to a willing press who just parroted it with no verification.

  78. tim
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

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    hmmm…I wonder if it is on the State Department site. I will see what I can find.

  79. lorac, the “bogus threat claims” were debunked when the Secret Service testified before congress after the party-crasher affair.

    ==============

    Yes, that sounds like the story I saw, in some reliable source.

  80. JanH
    January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
    Mrs. Smith,

    It feels as if the men in politics are scared silly of women in politics, i.e. Hillary and Sarah. And just like what they did to Hillary, they are going to do to Sarah if she continues to speak up.
    ____________________

    Sarah will be allowed to speak up within a certain frame of context not slamming Obama. If she follows their lead learning her lesson after the attacks from the ferocity of the press and the leftisits, she is finished.

    She has to keep going as Hillary did if she is ever to be considered strong enough, serious enough in her convictions to run for the presidency.

    As Hillary said in the words of Harriet Tubman:

    “If you hear the dogs, keep going.

    If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

    If they’re shouting after you, keep going.

    Don’t ever stop. Keep going.”

    We’ll have to see how Sarah reacts to the attacks.
    Time tells all.

  81. Admin, thank you for keeping those of us who are not watching any news programs at this time updated with the pertinent FACTS about the Tuscon tragedy. I hadn’t read anything about the event in which one of the people who was shot made threats to the Tea Party activist and the Repulican politioian at the event. Good heavens! A Democrat behaving badly? Say it isn’t so! Maybe the gunshot wounds affected this guy mentally? I suspect that the mental problem existed before he was shot.

  82. Here is another perspective on this move to the center. The truth? He will go where he is told to go by the people who control him. They don’t call him the puppet for nothing. And the left? Well, they have no values. And the only thing they can agree on is America is always wrong. Kind of like the rhetoric you hear constantly from Obama. So they will follow behind him in lock step like little orphans in the storm.

    THE ORPHANED LEFT

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on January 14, 2011

    Printer-Friendly Version

    For the past three years, the left and Obama have been indistinguishable, joined at the hip in a marriage of ideology and, where that failed, of convenience. Now the marriage is on the rocks and some see a divorce in the offing.

    Obama strayed from the confrontational rhetoric of the left in his post-Tucson speech last week. While the likes of Paul Krugman and left wing bloggers were hyping the theme that Sarah Palin’s and the Tea Party activists’ rhetoric inflamed people sufficiently to bring out the worst leading — albeit indirectly — to the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

    The public wasn’t buying it. The Rasmussen Poll shows that — by 58-28 — voters assign the cause of the shooting to the isolated act of a madman rather than due to political rhetoric.

    But most expected Obama to use the chance to ratchet up the ante and speak about how the tenor of our rhetoric catalyzed violence. In 2009 or 2010, he might have done so. But that was then and this is now. Instead he stopped short of this rhetoric, taking the high road and calling on us to promote healing in our public dialogue instead of wounding. He opted to look presidential rather than to inflict political damage on his adversaries.

    Far more than his forced agreement to extend the Bush tax cuts, Obama’s speech signaled a real attempt to move to the center. If you will, to triangulate — rising to a third place between but also above both party positions. He let the left walk off a cliff by trying to extract political gain from the shooting. But he stayed away and acted like a president should.

    Will he be able to triangulate? Can he win in 2012 by moving to the center? A president always has the option of correcting his mistakes, reversing his positions, and governing the country by moving it in the right direct. And those kinds of presidents — like Bill Clinton — usually get themselves re-elected.

    But it won’t be easy. The Republicans are going to confront him with challenge after challenge. To keep his centrist positioning, he is going to have to do more than give good speeches. He will have to change his programs and his policies.

    The first big challenge will come next month when we reach the debt limit and need more borrowing authority. Then the Republicans in the House will insist on huge cuts in spending before approving additional borrowing. How will Obama respond? Will he let the House roll back his stimulus spending to pre-2008 levels? Probably not. Will he abandon Obamacare? Likely not. Will his move to the center succeed? Likely not. But, he just might make these kinds of concessions. And then it can succeed.

  83. H4T, read your post on your friend’s blog. Very well said. Violet Socks at reclusive left has couple of balanced essays on the Tucson shooting, Palin, right vs. left. But riverdaughter sounds kind of over the top unhinged herself — fine, she is a liberal out and out, what is she going to do to stop Obama, a fucking Democrat (not her hated right wing nutcases) sullying her liberal brand?

  84. lorac

    The thing about Palin, IMO, is that she doesn’t need to be president first. She can run for president, as many people do, with the odds greatly against them. But they use the campaign time and visibility to become better known and present their ideas, and they may very well be chosen for VP.

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    Who comes to mind when you say this………Nader. The king of running for president.

  85. And her usual mode of speech isn’t like that of an excited schoolgirl, quite frankly! Hillary projects more composure and modulated voice. Sarah can learn that, but Hillary has always had it.

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    Hillary went to an Ivy League school. Palin talks like she was talking to a rural PTA with no microphone. Which her constitutents may like.

    Reminds me of Judy Collins’ “Amazing Grace.” Takes one back to wooden chairs in un-airconditioned frame buildings.

  86. But they use the campaign time and visibility to become better known and present their ideas, and they may very well be chosen for VP.

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    I kind of doubt that would work. The Palin haters would turn out to vote against the ticket. The Palin fans wouldn’t like it either, as we wouldn’t like seeing Hillary as VP.

  87. Ed Koch on the attacks against Sarah Palin:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/01/18/palin_defeated_unfair_critics_at_nyt__msnbc_108561.html

    As I see it, in the current battle for public opinion Sarah Palin has defeated her harsh and unfair critics.

    After the January 8 shooting of U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords and the murder of six others in Tucson, Arizona, some television talking heads and members of the blogosphere denounced her and held her in part responsible for creating a climate of hatred that resulted in the mass attacks.

    An example is Joe Scarborough and his crew on the “Morning Joe” show, which I watch and generally enjoy every morning at 6:30 a.m. when I rise to start the day. Because Palin designated Congresswoman Giffords and others for defeat in the November elections by the use of crosshairs on website maps of the Congressional districts, they blamed Palin for creating an atmosphere that caused Jared Loughner (whom everyone now recognizes as being mentally disturbed) to embark on the shooting and killing spree.

    Then reason set in, led by President Obama in his now famous and widely-lauded speech in Tucson bringing the country together. Most commentators did an about-face, recognizing that the lack of civility in both speech and actions by politicians, particularly in Washington, were not the cause of the shootings. A friend of the shooter said he had no interest in politics or talk radio. Insanity was the cause of his vicious acts, not political rhetoric.

    While the charge of responsibility against Palin was dropped, the Scarborough crew continued to assail her for defending herself on her website where she stated that she had been the subject of a blood libel. [snip]

    Today the phrase “blood libel” can be used to describe any monstrous defamation against any person, Jew or non-Jew. [snip]

    How dare Sarah Palin, cried the commentators, use that phrase to describe the criticism of her by those who blamed her for creating the atmosphere that set Loughner off in his murderous madness. Some took the position that it proved their ongoing charges that she is not an intelligent person and probably did not know what the phrase meant historically. In my opinion, she was right to denounce her critics and use blood libel to describe the unfair criticism that she had been subject to. [snip]

    Why do I defend Palin in this case? I don’t agree with her political philosophy: She is an arch conservative. I am a liberal with sanity. I know that I am setting myself up for attack when I ask, why did Emile Zola defend Dreyfus? Palin is no Dreyfus and I am certainly no Zola. But all of us have an obligation, particularly those in politics and public office, to denounce, when we can, the perpetrators of horrendous libels and stand up for those falsely charged. We should denounce unfair, false and wicked charges not only when they are made against ourselves, our friends or our political party but against those with whom we disagree. If we are to truly change the poisonous political atmosphere that we all complain of, including those who create it, we should speak up for fairness when we can.

    In the 2008 presidential race when Sarah Palin’s name was first offered to the public by John McCain as his running mate, I said at the time that she “scared the hell out of me.” My reference was to the content of her remarks, not to her power to persuade voters.

    It was McCain who lost the presidential election, not Palin. Since that time she has established that she has enormous power to persuade people. A self-made woman who rose from PTA mother to Governor of Alaska, she is one of the few speakers in public life who can fill a stadium. Her books are enormous successes. Her television program about Alaska has been a critical and economic success. When Sarah Palin addresses audiences, they rise to their feet in support and applause. She is without question a major leader of the far right faction in the Republican Party and its ally the Tea Party.

    I repeat my earlier comment that she “scares the hell out of me.” Nevertheless, she is entitled to fair and respectful treatment. The fools in politics today in both parties are those who think she is dumb. I’ve never met her, but I’ve always thought that she is highly intelligent but not knowledgeable in many areas and politically uninformed. I don’t believe she will run for president in 2012 or that she would be elected if she did. But I do believe she is equal in ability to many of those in the Republican Party seeking that office.

    Many women understand what she has done for their cause. She will not be silenced nor will she leave the heavy lifts to the men in her Party. She will not be falsely charged, remain silent, and look for others – men – to defend her. She is plucky and unafraid.

    While I disagree with her and I am prepared to oppose her politically, in the spirit of longed-for civility I say, Ms. Palin you are in a certain sense an example of the American dream: You have the courage to stand up and present your vision of America to its people. Your strength and lack of fear make America stronger and are examples to be emulated by girls and boys, men and women who are themselves afraid to speak up. You provide the example that they need for self-assurance.

  88. turndown, big difference, IMO. Hillary RAN for president, and by all honest accounts, actually won the primary, and exit polls at the general election indicated she would have beaten McCain. Wouldn’t make sense for her to run for VP now.

    Palin ran for VP, unsuccessfully. How would making another VP attempt upset her followers, truly? There’s nothing that says if you quit your first federal position half way through, and then lose the VP candidacy, the natural next step is to run for president….

    And her folksy speaking style, yes, it may please her Alaskan constituents. But a president’s constituents are all over the country, and to many, her way of speaking does not sound professional, or even mature.

  89. But they use the campaign time and visibility to become better known and present their ideas, and they may very well be chosen for VP.

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    I kind of doubt that would work. The Palin haters would turn out to vote against the ticket.

    lol Well, then, I guess there’s no way for Palin to be pres or VP. The haters will turn out either way.

  90. The Palin haters would turn out either way. But my theory was that the Palin fans would turn out to vote for her for Pres, but stay home if she ran for VP.

    Re her speech pattern, I agree she needs to change that for national consumption. I’m just saying it doesn’t really mean immaturity or ignorance or lack of intelligence: it was normal in her environment and helpful.

    Re her history. She was a successful governor, did not resign to run for VP. After running for VP got her in Obama’s way and the Bots started harassing her with ethics suits etc even after the election — then she resigned to ‘go rogue’.

    Actually this isn’t the first time she resigned in protest. The first time was from a state ethics commission. Didn’t hurt her career at all — imo the next step was Governor.

  91. Mrs. Smith: I’ve begun looking for Fredrich List and Henry Carey and have found Carey in Wikipedia, where the quintessence of his “American school of capitalism” is stated thus:

    “Carey sought to show that there exists, independently of human wills, a natural system of economic laws, which is essentially beneficent and spontaneously increases prosperity of the whole community, and especially of the working classes, except when it is impeded by the ignorance or perversity of humankind.”

    Apparently, Carey did not contribute to our knowledge of these economic laws (as Keynes did) but above all did not go into what has to be done when “the ignorance or perversity of humankind” plays out, as it was doing in 19th-century Europe and is playing out now in 21st-century America.

    So, Carey is essentially making a statement of faith in the underlying beneficence of capitalism as he saw it in the America of the mid-19th century, but with the potential need for intelligent laws, regulation and government intervention to keep the system from going against the betterment of “the whole society, and especially of the working classes.”

    This is actually an American version of Marx, without the dialectic and the Revolution, and is entirely compatible with socialist “economics” as developed in late-19th century Germany and which has now spread throughout Europe.

    Modern socialists are not Marxists, because Marx is outdated. In fact, socialists adopt any economic theory that works, so they cannot be called ideologues at all. The goal of socialists is to make economic activity to “increase prosperity of the whole community, and especially of the working classes”.

    Ergo, while WGT will not assume the “socialist” label, his basic ideas and goals are those of socialists and his proposals for ‘ending the crisis’ (see his website), if they are ever adopted, will be adopted only by socialist governments.

    For the time being, socialists are out of power almost everywhere in Europe. This may change starting in 2012.

  92. Mrs. Smith: “Well, there you have it. Tarpley supports Hillary Clinton. That should be your first tipoff, he is in our camp. The rest, I will leave up to you to report back on your conclusions.”
    ******

    And I, a socialist, support Hillary Clinton. The essential point here is that Hillary’s goal, my goal, Tarpley’s goal, is to do what has to be done to make things better for the working classes.

    This is not wealth distribution and it is not communism. But it calls for smart intervention in the economy and the righting of wrongs. If Hillary were a political figure in Europe, she would be a socialist (although there is a branch of the “liberal” center that flirts with the socialists – she might opt for that).

  93. Then reason set in, led by President Obama in his now famous and widely-lauded speech in Tucson
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    Bullshit. Pure unadulterated bullshit. One more time–bullshit.

    Lest we forget . . .

    In the immediate aftermath of the incident big media believed they had the wet dream they had been waiting for: a right wing tea party member gone beserk. If they could prove that then it would justify their two year campaign against the tea parties and their concomitant attempts to characterize them as violent, and racist. They even mentioned the shaved head to suggest he was a Nazi. But as contrary facts emerged i.e. that he was a dope smoking leftist who hated Bush they were forced to abandon that line. And where was Mr. Obama at this stage in the proceedings? Hiding of course.

    Thereafter, big media adopted a new position that even though he was not a tea party member, he was influenced by a climate of hate. In doing so you had the ridiculous spectacle of corrupt people like Clyburn dabbling finding a causal connection between Sarah Palin’s statements and trained psychiatrists finding no connection, and investigators finding that he had a demonic intentions toward Gifford long before Sarah said anything. And where was Mr. Obama at this stage in the proceeding? Once again he was MIA. Meanwhile, Sarah was out there defending free speech, but also pointing out the blood libel.

    Then, big media began obsessing over the words blood libel. Their logic was if we cannot tie her to him, and cannot prove that her words influence him, at least we can show she and the tea parties are anti semitic. That ploy fell through as well, when prominent rabbis came forward and said this word is perfectly permissable to describe the deplorable act of accusing someone of a crime they did not commit, and trying to hang them for it. In short, big media was flummoxed, and the wind was out of their sales. Their perjury was exposed to the world and they needed cover. Manaschevetts did they need cover.

    Only then, when the coast was clear did Obama finally come forward and pronounced what most Americans already knew. But even then he praised the sheriff who bore false witness. In other words, he couldn’t even pull the chestnuts of his big media allies out of the fire without throwing more kindling wood on the flames. And for that which was effectively nothing he get cudas from Ed Koch and his poll ratings go up. In sum, a cursory review of the salient facts reveals that Obama’s actions amount to cowardice not leadership. Koch is engaging in revisionist history. Far from helping the country come to its senses, Obama only stepped forward after the public mind had rejected the left diatribe.

  94. And I come back to one of WGT’s insightful statements, which I heard on one of his recent podcasts but don’t remember which:

    “The Free Market doesn’t exist. It’s a myth.”

    He hits the nail right on the head with this statement. With this, he is assaulting not only the (Repug) free market theology but the current American idea of unfettered freedoms.

    Basically, he is saying that, without intelligent rules, the market becomes a jungle in which only the Big Boys prevail.

    The further point that I would add to this is that there are many markets, not just for goods, services and money, but for ideas and their expression. Without rules of expression, we end up with Big Media, while Shabazz screams racism in the streets of Philadelphia with a bull horn as those around him try not to listen.

  95. Beware of the ways of the propagandist. He will tell you nine things which are true, get you nodding and then slip in that tenth thing that is a lie, and hope you do not notice. Most Americans are susceptible to that ploy, and we see it above in Ed Koch. The entire thrust of the article is to exonerate the party and praise Obama, and neither one of those is justified. Sarah is perfectly capable of speaking for herself and does not need Koch or other dims speaking for her–especially when it turns out to be self aggrandizing. Morris is wrong in this matter as well.

  96. One thing we do not need from these frigging politicians is more lectures. They need to shut the fuck up and solve the problems. Actions speak louder than words–even when dims and repos sit together at the stu bs, or in a hot tub singing kumbaya. Nobody is fooled. Nobody but a fool.

  97. “The Free Market doesn’t exist. It’s a myth.”
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    Obviously. But that is not the same thing as saying we need a command economy, and centralized control of economic decision making. The truth is that millions of economic decisions are made every day by willing buyers and sellers, and they have far more pertinent information on how to create value in their world than any central planner. And the aggregate effect to society is beneficial. On the other hand, government has a legitimate role in high risk projects like building nuclear reactors, and it has an equally important role drawing boundaries around economic behavior which has a tendency over time to become predatory, in one sense or another. Not for nothing did Lenin call monopoly the highest stage of capitalism. Imperialism too.

  98. The worm turned and Cheney is still around to notice. Cheney made the [following] comments about Obama in an interview that is set to air Tuesday on NBC’s “Today:”

    President Obama has “learned from experience” that some of the Bush administration’s decisions on terrorism issues were necessary, according to former Vice President Dick Cheney. In his first interview since undergoing major heart surgery last July, Cheney said he thinks Obama has been forced to rethink some of his national security positions now that he sits in the Oval Office. “I think he’s learned that what we did was far more appropriate than he ever gave us credit for while he was a candidate. So I think he’s learned from experience. And part of that experience was the Democrats having a terrible showing last election.” Cheney also asserted that Obama has learned that the prison at Guantanamo Bay simply cannot be closed, despite the promises he made while campaigning for the White House. “I think he’s learned that he’s not going to be able to close Guantanamo,” Cheney said. “That it’s — if you didn’t have it, you’d have to create one like that. You’ve got to have some place to put terrorists who are combatants who are bound and determined to try to kill Americans….”
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/138341-cheney-obama-has-learned-from-experience-that-bush-moves-were-necessary

    And just like GWB, Obama had the balls to jeopardize the Republic by using the Oval Office as a training ground, finishing school.

  99. jeswezey
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:19 am

    Mrs. Smith: I’ve begun looking for Fredrich List and Henry Carey and have found Carey in Wikipedia, where the quintessence of his “American school of capitalism” is stated thus:

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    jeswezey, You might enjoy poking around at this link, which has quite a bit re the Careys, List and others of the same principled persuasion. Wikipedia is pretty terrible in this area.

    http://american_almanac.tripod.com/contents.htm

    Apologies for this too brief comment. Exhausted with too much to do.

  100. I’m sorry but i smell bullshit here. There is nothing for independents to be happy about. There is fiddling going on here. Rasmussens has him dropping, so whats going on.

    A new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds President Obama’s approval rating at 54%, the highest it’s been in more than a year.

    By an 18-point margin, 58% to 40%, Americans say Obama “understands the problems of people like you.” That’s up from a mere 2-point split, 50% to 48% in September.

    A new CNN/Opinion Research poll finds Obama’s approval rating is up five points to 53% “as a growing number of Americans consider him a strong leader who is tough enough to handle a crisis.”

    Interestingly, the president’s approval rating among Democrats and Republicans is essentially unchanged since December, but among independents it has surged 15 points since last month.

  101. They are obviously starting early what they did in 2008, slopping out dodgy polling outfits to boost Obama up like they done since.

    Rasmussen nor Gallup agree there is any change.

    CNN says independents have gone up 15% for Obama in a month……total bullshit.

  102. wbboei: “…that is not the same thing as saying we need a command economy…”

    I hope you don’t think I am proning a command economy. That is what the Soviets imposed due to their rigid interpretation of Marx’s diktat, and they imposed it on everything, including (perhaps especially) the exchange of ideas.

    However, there are times and places where a government takeover of some of the controls is salutory. One such time was the takeover of GM. Now GM is in the black again and the government can begin selling off its shares.

    This GM takeover is, on a smaller scale, what Mitterrand did in 1981 when the state bought up about a hundred industrial groups, most of which were re-privatized starting in 1986, and with a huge profit for the state. I remember Mitterrand himself pointing out that Saint Gobain had been bought for FRF 1 billion in 1981 and sold at FRF 5 billion in 1986. To his eyes (and mine), that completely justified his nationalizations and the effects of government re-organization. That was the era of the LBO in the US, and the French state had done some LBO-ing (“elbowing”) of its own.

    One government action that was contra-socialist was the bailouts for the financial industry. What the government should have done is to buy up Lehmann Bros. for $1, go into the banking business for itself, and make it clear to the rest of the industry that the same fate was in store for them if they didn’t shape up. Then call a moratorium on foreclosures, as Hillary wanted.

    Socialism does not mean total government control of everything, nor does it mean government intervention for intervention’s sake. It means making smart moves that will maintain or restore the economy’s health and make it possible for everyone, “especially the working classes”, to make some headway.

  103. “One government action that was contra-socialist was the bailouts for the financial industry. What the government should have done is to buy up Lehmann Bros. for $1, go into the banking business for itself, and make it clear to the rest of the industry that the same fate was in store for them if they didn’t shape up. Then call a moratorium on foreclosures, as Hillary wanted.”
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    Exactly right, jesweezy. Then call a moratorium on foreclosures and drop mortgage interest rates across the board to a flat rate of 4% freezing it for 5 yrs., as Hillary suggested. By using this formula it would have given the financial industry time to shore up Banks insolvency. However, the dirty little secret of derivatives would have come to light because of AIG. All questions and no answers forthcoming would have been catastropic to the Bankers eventually destabilizing the IMF.

  104. Thank you, ohanson for posting the links to Carey and List. Tarpley has written many works pertaining to the 19th century and the beginnings of banking systems existing in place today/

  105. Mrs. Smith: “…the dirty little secret of derivatives would have come to light because of AIG.”

    The problem wasn’t really the derivatives nor the securitizing, but the casino games that AIG was playing on those securitized derivatives, based on false ratings by the rating agencies. The ‘dirty little secret’ was, “Who actually knew, and when, that such and such security was derived from BBB- subprime loans that Standard & Poors rated AAA?”

    AIG was running the casino and firms like Lehmann Bros et al. were the croupiers. My verdict for AIG would have been the same: Let it fold and buy it for $1, declare “all bets are off” and go into the insurance business.

    The German government has declared “all bets are off” by making naked (or short) trading illegal. They gave the players a whole 9 hours to clear the tables, then the house was cleaned out as if by magic wand, in one fell swoop. Other governments should do the same: WGT has criticized Sarkozy for not following suit.

  106. #
    lorac
    January 18th, 2011 at 2:06 am

    “…and to many, her way of speaking does not sound professional, or even mature.”
    For a long time now when ever someone says something like “to many” I think who are the “many” you’re talking about? Learned that from Tim Russert and his agenda driven thugs on the fake forum that was Sunday morning talk shows.

    I listened to Sarah Palen’s video more then once and liked what she said and how she said it. Especially when she said “…mmm, our exceptional country…” (I went back and checked she says it at about 0.30 on the video). Made me feel good about my self and America, I guess that could be a sin or at least politically incorrect.

    Then listen to what ever you can stand to listen to of Obama’s speech. In the small part I heard he was standing there telling all Americans – we need to be better, do better stuff like that. Made me feel like I was standing there dirty and in raggy cloths, never quite good enough. Which reminds me of the picture on Drudge of Obama bowing to the guy from China.

    It is true we need to focus on what are the bare essentials and strip away the rest. Some people think for what ever reason they can’t support Sarah Palen, some people think for what ever reason they can’t support the tea party, I say give it up! What is essential here? What can we accomplish if we all row together? There will be terrible forces arrayed against us from now till the presidential election and if you don’t think you are fighting for our, and our descendants way of life you are naive.

  107. jesweezy,

    “The problem wasn’t really the derivatives nor the securitizing, but the casino games that AIG was playing on those securitized derivatives, based on false ratings by the rating agencies.”
    ________________________

    AIG used pension funds, 401Ks, IRAs anything resembling a catch of money for filling gaping holes in leger books. The reason why they are creating an issue for SS insolvency, which is a myth, so it can be looted under cover of Obama’s xecutive order for lingering derivative reimbursments.

  108. Betty, I agree that when Palin speaks, she has this infectious optimism about our future. It is so refreshing specially when everywhere else all we hear is doom and gloom andlectures on how stoopid and violent we voters apparently are.
    ISTR Big Dawg had a similar sort of contagious optimism when he would speak as president.

  109. should be: – we need to be better, do better. Stuff like that.

    And I don’t mean we have to support Sarah, I just mean we need to look at the issues find what our bottom line is and mercilessly strip away the rest, work convince other camps to do the same. Then WE decide who, among the possible candidates, we are going to support, NOT allow it be dictated to us. And then knowing what is coming: TIE OURSELVES TO THE MAST.

    We can not dribble and poop around, the forces arrayed against us have planned long and hard, look how viciously they attached Hillary when she got in their way. People died.

  110. *hiya HFT/WMCB and votermom ~ been lurking over here for awhile and decided to sign up for here. Weird whats going on…. oh well. I’m going to keep gravitating toward the sane!*
    _____
    Hi indigogrrl! Gravitating towards the sane is exactly right!
    lol.

  111. “The German government has declared “all bets are off” by making naked (or short) trading illegal. They gave the players a whole 9 hours to clear the tables, then the house was cleaned out as if by magic wand, in one fell swoop. Other governments should do the same: WGT has criticized Sarkozy for not following suit.”
    __________________

    Henry Paulson, Soros, and most likely Greenspan and Bernache and their elite financial circle wouldn’t have made the billions of dollars they were counting on by creating the derivatives scam. Saving the people from losing their homes was never a consideration. After all, the Republican’s PNAC agreement was all about breaking the Middle Class. Which they have and continue to do successfully.

  112. Voters now trust GOP on all top 10 issues.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

    Republicans were trusted more on seven out of 10 issues in December and eight out of 10 in October just before Election Day.

    Republicans also have held double-digit leads over Democrats on two of the three weekly Generic Congressional Ballots so far this year.

    On the economy, the most important issue to voters, the GOP holds a 48% to 39% lead. These findings have shown little change since early June 2009.

    Most Americans continue to lack confidence in the stability of the U.S. banking system and see inflation driving up grocery prices. Most also expect higher interest rates a year from now.

    With the GOP-led House likely to vote to repeal the national health care bill this week, voters now trust Republicans more on health care, the second most important voting issue, by a 52% to 38% margin. In December, Democrats had a slight 45% to 43% edge, but it was the first time President Obama’s party had led on the issue since July of last year.

  113. Watched Letterman last nightand he had on the new idol for American Idol. He guest said that he had toured all 50 states and more before he became famou, but American Idol was a new way of discovering talent. Letterman said he felt the old way was better. Can you imagin he said that having significant experience was a better way to develop a performer.

    To bad he did not feel that way about the people who run for President of the US, one of the most signifcant postions in the world. I guess Neighborhood Organizers, trumped up short state legislative job, and walking in the door of the Senate is good enough for that.

  114. BREAKING: Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) to announce retirement Tuesday, sources say.

    ………………….

    No doubt this will be a GOP pick up now.

  115. Betty, I wasn’t talking about the content of her speech, I was talking about the shrill pitch, and the speed, etc. I don’t have an expert’s command of the appropriate vocabulary for describing it. But a big part of people’s impression of a candidate is how they present themselves, how they come across. Look at how BO used it to benefit himself, even though he was devoid of substance. Think of the Nixon/Kennedy debates.

    IMO, her presentation very much befits her bulldog relation to BO. But, IMO, if she doesn’t learn to modulate it, it may affect a lot of people’s opinion of whether she is “presidential”.

  116. Palin on Hannity video (I thought she did a good job. Bottomline for me is what Koch says in the article admin linked: “..she is entitled to fair and respectful treatment.” There are so many useless male politicians on both sides of the aisle and what reason is there to go after a woman politician even if we dislike her? If anything, I will defend her right to do what she does even more, even as I may or may not want to vote for her.)

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4500319/exclusive-sarah-palin-on-hannity/?playlist_id=87485

  117. Obama springs for lavish White House reception on state visitor, Hu Jintao.

    due in Washington for the start of a four-day visit including the first US state dinner for a Chinese leader in 13 years.
    ______________________

    Isn’t there a rule that the US flag always flies far above flags from other countries, indicating we will never be subjugated by any other political philosophy from another country?

    Take a look at the flags flying in front of the WH. The Chinese flag is centered and the 2 US Flags fly a little below or even with the China’s flag.

    What will it take for members of Congress to grow a pair and speak out against this outright treasonous subversive activity by the Obama white house?

    story and photo here:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/17/hu-jintao-white-house-visit

  118. Obviously another Dem stampede for the door in 2012. Conrad was obviously in danger but retiring, didnt see that one.

  119. Father of Our Country Boxed Away

    January 18, 2011

    Remember when a symbol representing the name of Jesus Christ had to be covered so that Comrade Obama could speak at Catholic Georgetown? Something similar happened yesterday during the MLK festivities. Via Free North Carolina:

    The annual MLK observance at the state house in Columbia SC had an interesting twist this year. The event is held on the north side steps of the statehouse. Prominent at that location is a large bronze statue of George Washington. This year, the NAACP constructed a “box” to conceal the Father of His Country from view so that participants would not be offended by his presence.

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/01/father-of-our-c.html

  120. Don’t believe the rising poll numbers. When you own the polls you can make them any numbers to suit the need.

  121. Today is the day…

    Clinton campaigning in Chicago for Emanuel today

    Former President Bill Clinton will headline a rally for mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel this morning at the Chicago Cultural Center.

    The event is open to the public and 700 tickets were distributed through Emanuel’s campaign web site, although people were warned that a ticket does not guarantee entrance.

    Emanuel featured Clinton’s visit in an e-mail to supporters this weekend, mixed with an appeal for campaign donations. “I’m honored to have President Clinton’s support,” the e-mail read. “I’m excited to show President Clinton the great Chicagoans who’ve made this campaign possible.”

    Clinton also is scheduled to attend a private fundraiser for Emanuel today.

    Before serving as President Barack Obama’s chief of staff and in Congress, Emanuel worked as Clinton’s senior adviser for policy and strategy.

    Clinton’s appearance in Chicago for the mayor’s race has raised the eyebrows of some of Emanuel’s opponents. Former U.S. Sen. Carol Moseley Braun said Clinton is “an outsider coming to town to support another outsider.”

    When Braun ran for re-election in 1998, then-First Lady Hillary Clinton campaigned for Braun in the Chicago area. President Clinton appointed Braun as the ambassador to New Zealand after she lost her re-election bid.
    When Emanuel left the White House, Clinton appointed him to the board of Freddie Mac. Emanuel’s position on the board has been highlighted by other mayoral candidates, including Gery Chico and Miguel del Valle. In an attempt to distract from the star power Emanuel has been able to draw, both are holding news conferences an hour before Clinton is scheduled to arrive.

    Chico intends to “blast Emanuel for Freddie Mac,” while del Valle plans to call on City Hall to aggressively address the foreclosure crisis and demand that Emanuel “explain his role in crisis as Clinton-appointed Freddie Mac board member.”

    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2011/01/clinton-campaigning-in-chicago-for-emanuel-today.html

  122. Votermom, there’s a lot of wonkish economic stuff being talked about here today. Hope it’s not boring. 😉

  123. Don’t mind me, I like to nap! Kidding!!!

    I post occasionally at corrente (which is probably too hard-left for some here) but if anyone is interested I did a short post on what I think is going on this past week.
    http://www.correntewire.com/primary_wars_have_begun

    btw, lorac, I think her “shrill pitch” is really mostly about us not being used to hearing women’s voices. Her voice is pretty much in the normal range for women. We are just so used to associating “deep and manly” with authority. (That said, my favorite woman’s voice has to be Angelina Jolie’s , but maybe that’s just me being a fan)

  124. “outright treasonous subversive activity by the Obama white house”

    “Father of Our Country Boxed Away”

    —————–
    Mrs. Smith,

    Both articles fall under the same “enemy of state” category. One wonders how long Americans and those who represent them are going to stay passive. This has gone beyond the pale.

  125. JanH, thanks. Here is what I posted:
    =======================
    “The Primary Wars Have Begun

    Remember how I said I was dreading the coming primary wars?
    I think they have begun, sparked by Tucson.
    The memorial rally is a clear signal to me that the President WILL seek re-election. He’s not anticipating a primary challenge, so the campaign is already focused on side-lining probable general election contenders.
    The MOTU (Masters of the Universe) want a contest between two bought and paid for corporatists – a true win-win for them. The President is determined to be the winning corporatist. The GOP have any number of wannabes to replace him.
    Any action taken by the msm or the admin that doesn’t seem to make sense will make sense when viewed in the light of “how does this affect 2012?”
    The pipes are calling, the whistles sounding, the drums of war are beating. Tribes and clans are being called to once again to assemble. Are you ready to pick a side or will you stay neutral and be universally reviled?
    This has been a public service announcement by your jaded and cynical neighborhood cassandra.
    Please have a nice day.
    =======================

  126. The manufactured polls showing a surge in the approval rating of the fraud is as nothing compared to what we are seeing on the other side of Pennsylvania Avenue. I try not to day trade his stock because what they can gin up now in terms of phony numbers has no real bearing on how he will be perceived roughly two years from now. On that point I agree with Cost when he says the issue is has always been jobs, the deficit and health care in that order so a blip at this moment is not outcome determinative. What concerns me far more than that is something I have been obsessing about here in the past, and that is the weakness which I perceive in the Republican leadership. It is almost as if they needed the fraud, or are content to live with him, and they did not come to the defense of Sarah when she was attacked–at least not in any meaningful way. In the past, Gingrich has praised this kinder gentler approach, but I perceive it to be weakness, because I know the people behind it. The old axiom about kowtowing to the liberal press applies to this group, and will not sell with their base, or the tea parties. It goes back to something Tony Blankley said about the public reaction which is light years ahead of the Republican leadership, and their attempts to ingratiate themselves to the Washington establishment and not to say shit when they have a mouth full will ingratiate them to no one, and they will be cast aside by the pubic. For good and sufficient reason the country is in a strange mood and if the Republicans do not get out in front of these issues, and behave like an opposition party, rather than the party of me too, or a bunch of country clubbers who have an intellectual disagreement with Mr. Faculty Lounge, their own base, particularly the tea parties will look for more assertive leaders. There was an article by a lady at Red State about kinder gentler republicans and what a joke they are if you care to read it. That article confirms some of what I am saying here. If you want to worry about something rather than day trade the stock, worry about whether the Republicans are tough enough to take on this corrupt dimocratic party. If not their glory will be short lived.

  127. votermom
    January 18th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    —————
    I agree in general with what you said about people criticizing women’s voices, but Palin could use a voice coach to be more effective.

    Corrente, yeah, I remember them from 08 primary. I tried to get an account for their blog and got this email back from that guy whose name I don’t remember now — he said that they only want highly intelligent comments or something to that effect, like if you think you’re dumb, don’t apply. That turned me off immediately and I was not willing to show him my PhD degree certificate.

  128. pm317, wow, what a rude response. I would have been so offended if I had gotten a an email like that.
    The corrente crowd as far as I can tell is a mix – there’s some people I agree with a lot, hillary-supporters, and there also the ones I always either disagree with or ignore — BO fans, CDSers & PDSers.

  129. votermom, in reply to that email I told him to get off his high horse and indicated that I don’t care to be part of their little elite group.

  130. “Both articles fall under the same “enemy of state” category. One wonders how long Americans and those who represent them are going to stay passive. This has gone beyond the pale.”
    ______________________________

    The old axiom of the frog jumping out of a bucket of hot water. If the water in the bucket begins as cold water and is slowly heated, the frog never senses the danger he is in and will not jump out of the water when it is hot, because it’s too late for him. He’s already been cooked!

    Little by little, Congress allows the degradation of our country. Not one man from either party has stepped forward to question the president’s actions regarding his lack of respect for the American Flag or the covering up of one of the Founding Fathers, George Washington, during a MLK Day celebration in NC.

    The Republicans pretend they are patriots wrapping themselves in the American flag when they use the symbolism for creating Wars protecting their oil shares with the blood of American soldiers. They are not weak. They are as corrupt as the Democrats they share the burden with, burying the American people in deep in Debt and unfair Taxes.

  131. the bottom line is that without Palin, the PINOS have nothing to talk about…she is their best distraction from the horrendous condition our country is in…

    re: Koch’s comments…exactly…it would be very interesting to see per segment and per blog…how many times Sarah Palin’s name is mentioned…especially from the people that now that state “they are not going to cut her any slack (Fineman)” and “how dare she defend herself(all of them)” and “why doesn’t she just go away and stop talking (Frum, Joe S, et al)”

    I would love to see for example, how many times Joe S has mentioned her name – today he writes about her…the man is obssessed with her, much like he was against Bill Clinton…Joe S still cannot bring himself to show any respect for Bill…would like to see how many times Morning Joe concentrates and devotes entire segments to SP, and the same for CNN, etc

    I used to play this little game during the primaries and I would say I bet anything that if I turn on MSNBC right now they are repeating some negative story about Hillary…and/or Bill…and guess what, just about every time I turned on MSNBC I won that bet…

    friends…this is all so very predicable…and that is one reason that I, for one, am very happy SP essentially has told the MSM “tough luck, she isn’t going anywhere and will continue to speak her mind…like any American is entitled to do”…they are not going to force her out of the picture…and kudos to Koch for being honest…

    …bottom line…these MSM and blog Sarah Palin haters are out to make money…there is big money and possible jobs for those who try to annilate and EXPLOIT Palin…(as there was for those who went after the Clintons)

    here is an example of what I mean…remember Ed Shultz, republican turned rabid anti-Clinton, pro Obama liberal during the primaries…remember when he came right out of the gate, day after day, dividing the democrats and demonizing the Clintons…

    well I remember very clearly writing letter after letter to Ed Shultz saying you are dividing the party, bla, bla…remember his sudden brazen appearances on msnbc…and then it finally dawned on me and I even wrote that to him, Shultz is auditioning for a show on TV – MSNBC or CNN will do…the bigger his loudmouth got, the more bluster he spewed the better his chances got…viola! the ed shultz show on MSNBC

    …the same deal with Ezra Klien…I remember writing to him about being a clone everytimg he went on Chris Matthews and all they all did was agree with each other and demonize the Clintons…I questioned him about his ‘truth in telling’ and the need to be on TV at all costs…I got some very biased emails back from him…now he is a guest on cable tv and writes for the WP

    …as long as these haters toe the line and spew the hate and make up and keep repeating and peddeling the “latest” stories and “storyline” and BS they can try to make a name for themselves…and “break out”…

    …which brings us to now…the biggest loudmouths in the echo chamber against Palin…the ones that seem to be going that extra mile…many of them are doing it for $$$ and/or for attention to try to get on TV…a certain female blogger that we have mentioned here previously is now hell bent on that bandwagon…tripping all over herself to start every day with the latest SP rant…

    …it is part of the media game and the race for the big bucks and attention…and a guest spot or the big dream…their own (cable) tv show…

    **************************************************

  132. Wow, someone named Randall Terry says he is going to primary Obama. He wants to run pro-life ads. Talk about the rubber hitting the road – and be careful what you wish for.

    Still, if it happens the bots will have to stick to voting in their own primary and won’t be able to screw with the republican side.

  133. votermom
    January 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    ——————————-
    Correct. Those dynamics tend to favor a dud like Romney, author of the obscene health care bill, and likely destroyer of social security, just like the fraud in the white house. This is not what the people of this country want, and it remains to be seen what they will ultimately do about it. The ultimate outcome is hard to envision, and there is so much momentum in favor of a two party system but if the two parties merge into one party, as they are doing now, even on issues like health care, then there is room for another party because nature abhors a vacuum. I just don’t know what to think on that one.

  134. The male QVC jewelry-selling host was on early this morning hawking his wares. I was watching in hopes he’d put me to sleep, but … he kept referring to the fashion trends indicated by females attending the Hollywood award show just past. And OMG, sniff, sob, I can hardly believe it … he swears that sleeveless is out; the ladies are covering their arms and frequently wear fashions with heavy shoulder emphasis. How will Fashion Icon Mother Michelle cope with this startling turn of events?

  135. Luckily Palin is really good at turning attacks into opportunities. I think when she posted her video response to the Tucson accusations, my first reaction was: ” that’s an audition for How I Will Lead The Nation in Times of Crisis If I am President and she pretty much aced it” and my second reaction was that Mittens must be tearing his impeccable hair out that he doesn’t get to audition. Heh.

  136. Mittens, poor little guy no one listens to him except the rich and powerful, they love him. The rest of us like Hillary and Sarah! Newt can stuff it and so can the rest of them.

    Trying to get Sarah to shut up is a great moment for her to get more coverage, which is what she is doing….she is a smart cookie!

    I’ve always said if we couldn’t have Hillary, we have to have Sarah. Of coarse, Ms. Giffords would have been a wonderful candidate before the shooting. She had not been covered by the media and was pretty much an unknown, but she had great potential. It’s such a loss for the women’s movement. She was a strong leader!

  137. tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2011/01/fewer-than-expected-tuned-in-t.php

    Fewer Than Expected Tuned in to Watch President Obama’s Speech at the Tucson Memorial LA Times’ ShowTracker blog

    The number of viewers that tuned in to watch President Barack Obama’s speech delivered at the Tucson memorial on Wednesday evening was fewer than expected, reports the Los Angeles Times’ ShowTracker blog.

    An average of 30.8 million people tuned in to hear Obama, who was carried live from 5:45 Pacific standard time to 6:15 on seven networks, ranging from the top broadcasters such as ABC and NBC to three cable-news networks: Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, the story notes.

    The TV audience was surprisingly low compared with other Obama speeches and given how much media attention the Arizona shootings have been receiving, the article adds.

    Obama’s 2010 State of the Union speech averaged 48 million viewers, for instance. Still, the story points out that the timing of the memorial meant that the speech aired outside of prime-time hours for much of the country.

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  140. 1984 has arrived. This plus nuclear power is why NBC shilled for Obama. They were perfectly willing to lie and betray the country in order to install a puppet who would say yes to anything they asked for, and make taxpayers the guarantor of his corrupt promises to them. Hillary would never have stood for this kind of vertical monopoly in information industry or the financial industry. She would have protected the public, and was very specific on point–even with NAFTA.
    ————————-
    Dear Mr. wbboei,

    The decision was handed down moments ago,1 and you should be mad as hell.

    The FCC just blessed the merger of Comcast, the nation’s largest cable and home Internet provider, with NBC Universal. The Justice Department approved the merger, too, leading to the unprecedented consolidation of media and Internet power in the hands of one company.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat it. Wherever you live, the Comcast-NBC merger is a disaster.

    Letting one company control the pipes and the content that flows over those pipes is a formula for abuse. Comcast-NBC could soon hike up rates, take away your favorite channels or even stop you from watching your favorite shows online. Comcast has already targeted Netflix and other companies that compete with its video and Internet offerings.

    The merger lays waste to then-candidate Barack Obama’s 2008 promise, when he said, “I strongly favor diversity of ownership of outlets and protection against the excessive concentration of power in the hands of any one corporation, interest or small group. I strongly believe that all citizens should be able to receive information from the broadest range of sources.”

    We at Free Press believe that, too. But unlike the president and his FCC chairman, we’re not caving to corporate pressure. Free Press is working with our allies and activists to fight for more open, democratic and diverse media.

    Here’s how you can help:

    1. First, let Washington know that there are consequences to blessing this bad deal. You can tell everyone that this merger is a disaster by Tweeting about it, spreading the word via Facebook, and sharing this e-mail with others.

    2. Next, join our national network of local Comcast watchdogs. Sign this pledge to protect your community against future Comcast abuses, and we’ll connect you to a growing network of activists in your area and beyond.

    3. Finally, support the Free Press Action Fund so we can mobilize a broad coalition to stem the tide of new media mergers sure to follow in the wake of Comcast-NBC.

    Today’s deal, combined with the FCC’s recent loophole-ridden, fake “Net Neutrality” rule, sets the stage for Comcast to turn the Internet into something that looks like cable TV. This administration has a long list of weak compromises to corporate lobbyists during its first two years. But today’s merger is particularly alarming.

    You might be saying, “I’m not a Comcast customer, so I’m not worried.” But Comcast will jack up the prices that other cable and online distributors pay for NBC content, and you’ll pay higher prices — we promise.

    You might be saying, “I can just get a new Internet provider if I don’t like it.” But there’s almost no broadband competition. And as TV, radio, phone and other services increasingly become Internet-based, cable will be the only connection that’s fast enough to deliver high-quality media and services to most Americans.

    You might be saying, “Why should I care about a business deal between two giant companies?” But this merger is certain to be the first domino to fall in a series of mega-media mergers. The FCC’s blessing of Comcast-NBC will embolden companies like AT&T or Verizon to try to gobble up content providers like Disney and CBS, creating a new era of media consolidation where even fewer companies control the content you watch and all the ways you watch it.

    The Comcast-NBC merger is truly catastrophic for the public, and for the future of media, technology and democracy.

    We can’t let a few corporate giants control the flow of information in America. It’s time to get mad, but it’s also time to get involved.

    Thank you,

    Josh Silver
    President and CEO
    Free Press
    http://www.freepress.net

    1. “FCC Approves Comcast and NBC Joint Venture,” Washington Post, 1/18/11: http://act2.freepress.net/go/1806?akid=2226.9608863.IJ0608&t=6

  141. ObamaCare Flatlines: ObamaCare Taxes Home Sales – Clobbers Middle-Class Americans

    January 18, 2011

    April 8, 2010

    “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes,”

    Beginning January 1, 2013, ObamaCare imposes a 3.8% Medicare tax on unearned income, including the sale of single family homes, townhouses, co-ops, condominiums, and even rental income.

    In February 2010, 5.02 million homes were sold, according to the National Association of Realtors. On any given day, the sale of a house, townhome, condominium, co-op, or income from a rental property can push middle-income families over the $250,000 threshold and slam them with a new tax they can’t afford.

    This new ObamaCare tax is the first time the government will apply a 3.8 percent tax on unearned income. This new tax on home sales and unearned income and other Medicare taxes raise taxes more than $210 billion to pay for ObamaCare. The National Association of Realtors called this new Medicare tax on unearned income “destructive” and “ill-advised” and warned it would hurt job creation.

    http://www.gop.gov/obamacare

  142. Lieberman quits too…………….

    Source: Joe Lieberman unlikely to seek reelection in 2012

    Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman — deeply unpopular with voters in his home state — is unlikely to seek reelection, a knowledgeable source tells POLITICO ahead of the senator’s announcement on Wednesday.

    The four-term senator’s decision comes after months of speculation on the political future of the independent Democrat.

    “After many thoughtful conversations with family and friends over the last several months, Sen. Lieberman made a decision about his future over the holidays which he plans to announce on Wednesday,” said Erika Masonhall, a Lieberman spokeswoman who declined to comment further.

    Lieberman is scheduled to speak at 12:30 p.m. at the Marriott Hotel in Stamford, Conn. Last month, he told MSNBC that if he ran, it would probably be as an independent.

    Lieberman’s announcement comes on the heels of Tuesday’s declaration by Susan Bysiewicz, the former Connecticut secretary of state, that she plans to enter the 2012 Democratic primary field for Lieberman’s Senate seat. Rep. Chris Murphy also has expressed interest in the Democratic primary.

    A Lieberman aide insisted that the decision had already been made and the Wednesday announcement has been in the works for several weeks.

  143. NYT NEWS ALERT: Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut Will Not Seek a Fourth Term – Confirmed.

    Dropping like flies these Dem Senators.

  144. Conn Sen will become a fight now Lieberman has packed it in.

    Strongly think Frmr Gov Rell will go for it. She’d probably win easily actually and probably the best GOP shot there if she doesnt get tea partied like Delaware.

  145. More Bad news… Recovery? What recovery?
    _______________________

    Housing Market Plunge Passes Depression’s

    Source: CBS

    CBS) NEW YORK — Home prices fell for the 53rd straight month in November, taking the decline past that of the Great Depression for the first time in the prolonged housing slump, according to Zillow.com.

    Prices have fallen 26 percent since their peak in 2006, exceeding the 25.9 percent drop registered in the five years between 1928 and 1933, the housing data company reports.

    The word comes on the heels of figures showing banks repossessed more than one million homes in the U.S. last year — and they’re expected to take back even more this year.

    On “The Early Show” Thursday, Jason Cochran, Editor-at-Large at AOL’s WalletPop.com, discuss what it all means for buyers, sellers, mortgage-seekers, people mulling refinancing or doing home improvements, and others:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/13/earlyshow/main7243135.shtml

  146. As for the polling, pure and utter bull$hit.

    I remember in 2008 after every debate, CNN would run some stupid poll on who did better, of course since the Obots voted primarily, Hillary lost out on the poll, however the goal was achieved, CNN ran with that poll of Waffles doing better, then Washington Compost ran with the CNN poll, then the NYT ran with the Washington Compost poll… and then wait for it…. CNN ran with that NYT poll.

    The whole thing was so coordinated, I never paid attention much in the past and trusted polling, but now I understand how the game of perception is played.

    And 15% increase of approval with Independents?!? what are they smoking?!? I’m a registered independent, heck I used to be a lifelong democrat and I don’t buy the crap Waffles is selling.

  147. Isn’t there a rule that the US flag always flies far above flags from other countries?
    ———–

    Curious, I looked it up.

    10. The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

    11. When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. {In accompanying illustration U.S. flag is not in center, and in center not mentioned in international context.]

    http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/displayonly.htm

    So, by info from this one source, he gets a pass on this one. I could, however, give valid reasons for Obama to be impeached.

  148. Impeachment

    www

    themoralliberal.com/2010/06/28/barack-obama-a-bill-of-indictment-alan-caruba/

    PDF! > larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2010/2010_1-9/…/27-31_3702.pdf

    They are not same.

    rushing off to work…

  149. Mrs. Smith
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
    Well that begins to explain how the healthcare bill is supposed to cut the deficit, new taxes on things that have nothing to do with healthcare. Did any of our pundits pick this up when they read this bill? I hadn’t heard this before. The housing market is dying and this is one more death blow.

  150. Parker/Spitzer on CNN announced tonight that someone is trying to recall Sheriff Dupnik of Pima County, AZ. A somewhat more sober Sheriff Dupnik was on the show saying he was mad when blamed the right wing for the shootings. He’s also all over the board on gun control saying he was for guns, but it had gotten out of hand. Hope they recall him.

  151. BigCatLover
    January 18th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    I remember Hillary saying about Obama’s HC will be considered a TAX- and the OBots screaming bloody murder; “she’s lying!”
    _________________

    The link to that article has many more surprises in store for us. Check it out, when you have a minute.

  152. “Behind the staging area, Obama gave Michelle a “high five” and shared a laugh with her. ”

    —————-
    I am beyond disgusted by this crass and juvenile behavior.

    There are no words.

  153. Mrs. Smith
    I heard this morning that the housing market is now worse than the depression, but I also am experiencing this myself by trying to sell my condo for over a year. It’s value has already dropped by 1/3 and will eat my entire down payment if it sells. While all this is going on in the housing market, my condo fees have doubled to cover the units now in foreclosure. I’m already between a rock and a hard place. That’s why I reacted to the article.

  154. Sheesh! Now I’ve heard everything.

    ——————
    Hillary Fans Want Gillibrand for President

    By Paul Bedard
    Posted: January 18, 2011

    Convinced that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton really doesn’t plan to run for the White House, her fans are turning to a new party star as their pick to be the first female president: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, a fellow New Yorker. They tell our Suzi Parker that she is building ties to women’s groups and that coming from the Empire State is a big electoral boost. Plus, she has a moderate touch, seen this week through her friendship with and support for Tucson shooting victim Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. She also has a view of politics that’s in style, telling a women’s blogging group in August: “We need you. You don’t have to be afraid [of politics] just because it is a blood sport.”

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/01/18/hillary-fans-want-gillibrand-for-president-.html

  155. Didn’t that story about BO and MO high fiving come fom the so-called WH insider. I want to see the photo that was mentioned before I really believe these stories.

  156. After Gillibrand’s performance in support of the dem party by her gushing story about the miracle of Gifford’s eyes opening for the leaders of her party, I am turned off by her. She appeared the next 2 days on all the tv shows telling this story. It’s the over the top manner that she told the story that turned me off. Besides I see it as a cynical propaganda piece.

  157. pm317
    January 18th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh, the darn Øbamas, they’re just too damn smart for the rest of us. Too bad many of us knew he was an insincere @sshole from the very start.

  158. Way behind on the blog………as always 😆

    I can’t believe I am going to quote Dr. Laura………ugh, but when Hannity asked her why the left hates her, she asked if she could be blunt, he said yea, and she said, ” …because she has BALLS!”
    —–
    Don’t mess with the bullette or you get the frying pan over the head.

  159. I read Big Pink every day but seldom comment. Great job again, admin. PM317 I was at JWS blog and read how one regular kept attacking you. This one has attacked others consistently. Don’t know what’s up with that. I wrote a comment complaining of one attack.

    Voter Mom I’ve reading the “spectacle” at the site you usuall post at and was amazed. Oy vey! Love this site.

  160. Obama, entourage showered with Saudi gifts: report
    (AFP) – 3 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — In his first year as US president, Barack Obama, his family and administration members were showered with more than 300,000 dollars in gifts from Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz.

    The Federal Register reported Tuesday that King Abdullah gave some 34,500 dollars worth of presents to Obama, some 146,200 dollars worth to First Lady Michelle Obama and 7,275 dollars worth to their children Malia and Sasha.

    The monarch offered a total of 108,245 dollars worth of gifts to White House staff, presents valued at 23,400 dollars to a senior US diplomatic interpreter and gifts estimated at 12,000 dollars to the US charge d’affaires in Riyadh.

    Among the gifts Obama received from Abdullah were a “large desert scene on a green veined marble base featuring figurines of gold palm trees and camels” and a large brass and glass clock by Jaeger-LeCoultre, according to the register.

    The Saudi king gave the First Lady a ruby and diamond jewelry set worth 132,000 dollars as well as a pearl necklace with a value of 14,200 dollars, according to the register.

    Their children also received jewelry worth thousands of dollars in addition to books and DVDs.

    Another generous foreign dignitary was Ernestina Naadu Mills, Ghana’s first lady, who gave Michelle Obama a Backes and Strauss “Black Star of Ghana” watch, “crafted in 18 karat gold with diamonds and leather,” the register said.

    It was valued at 48,000 dollars.

    Chinese President Hu Jintao gave Obama “a framed and matted fine silk embroidery depicting a portrait study of the First Family” that was valued at 20,000 dollars, according to the register.

    Miyuki Hatoyama, wife of then prime minister Yukio Hatoyama of Japan, gave Michelle Obama a pearl necklace valued at 9,700 dollars.

    Obama got a bronze statue of a girl releasing a flock of doves valued at 8,000 dollars from Israeli President Shimon Peres.

    All the presents go to the National Archives as US law bars any US government official from receiving a present from a foreign government.

    Obama and others accepted the gifts because “non-acceptance would cause embarrassment to donor and US government,” according to the register.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJfIu_53Cu52Z3wJoueYt7oT5C2A?docId=CNG.c471a4256f677123d3aefab76804a32d.2f1

  161. pm317 thanks for the link to the insider, so much info I have to post it:
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    D.C. Insider, who then responded. Unfortunately, no follow-up was allowed. We hope to be able to do a follow-up soon. Some information was later edited per request prior to final publication.

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    Question: How would you rate the performance of President Obama’s Tucson Tragedy speech?

    Insider: The speech itself was a remarkable display. Very powerful speech. Perhaps the president’s finest moment since taking office. The things happening outside the speech though left many of us wondering who was in charge of planning the event because that environment was almost a disaster. You were right to call into question the t-shirts. That was in very poor taste. The excuse that the Obama administration had nothing to do with those t-shirts is completely false. Every detail is run by the administration on this kind of event. Every last detail. Also, many who had attended were actually coached to be “very supportive” of President Obama. I don’t agree that this should have been “Obama’s Oklahoma”. The media is trying to make it just that, with the full support of the Obama White House/Jarrett. Tucson was a terrible tragedy. Oklahoma was something much-much bigger than that. I find it more than a bit troubling to hear all this comparison between the two events. And regarding Obama’s attitude on this tragedy. Here is something that you will never hear from the media but that some witnessed shortly after the memorial service had finished. Behind the staging area, Obama gave Michelle a “high five” and shared a laugh with her. So within minutes of seeing what is Obama’s finest moment as president it is followed by one of his worst. It is this easy and always there contradiction in the president that concerns me very very much. He was just thrilled at his performance. That was priority #1 for him. It always is. The motivation for his speech was not to heal following the tragedy, but to further appeal to the public and get their approval of him. It’s similar to that story I told you about Obama coming into the military meeting at the WH. He came in laughing and left early laughing. Maybe a photo of the high five will be released? I was told one was taken at any rate. I cannot reconcile with that kind of behavior in a leader. There really is something missing in him. Some basic element of humanity. Or humility??? Even by DC political standards the human element in Obama seems to be utterly absent. I don’t get it. I don’t understand it. And that scares the hell out of me. So that’s my assessment of the Tucson speech.

    Question: Do you have anything to do with the anonymous-author Obama book coming out?

    Insider: What book? 🙂 Look for more and more books to come out. Odd to see it happen before a second term has even begun but with so many having left the WH, more books will follow.
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    Question: How do you feel about the attacks against Sarah Palin following the Tucson shooting?

    Insider: Palin? I don’t really care one way or the other. I read your defense of her. Not bad, but frankly, Palin is no longer the threat she was to the party not so long ago. I have heard first hand there is no way she gets the nomination. As in NO WAY. Understand? I still find her appeal a fascinating thing to watch unfold, but she will not be a factor beyond some version of a conservative political cheer leader IMO. Unless, and I will throw you a bit of a bone here, UNLESS something comes out on the birther stuff. Yeah, I’m bringing it up myself here. Something is out there but nobody wants to touch it. The topic is coming up amongst us more than it ever has. I’m talking people who mocked it, dismissed it before, who are now quietly saying something is stirring out there on this subject and it’s got the WH very concerned. Big time worried. There are discussion in the WH about the issue. And I think some of the Republican leadership has a whiff of it but all indications appear to be they want nothing to do with it. It’s being buried deep. For now. Barring something on that subject coming to light, I don’t see Sarah Palin playing a significant role as a candidate in 2012. And the birther thing is not the scandal I have spoken of before. THAT event is still unfolding. Maybe. Issa and Co have sent out some interesting smoke signals in-house. I think he may actually pursue something there. If he does follow through, here is how it will likely go down based on the admittedly general information I have been told. Something along the lines of the DOJ being investigated. Perhaps the NBP case or similar. Within the context of that investigation things will be lead back to Chicago. Banking, election fraud, organized crime…so many possibilities there. The activity in Chicago by WH operatives has been significant in recent months. Everywhere I look, they pop up. The damn unions are proving a real PITA for us. They are still in big time damage control mode. If Issa pushes hard, things will happen. If he has been compromised somehow, it could all get buried. I maintain as I always have that it starts in DC and then back to Chicago. This is the path that could collapse the Obama White House. On that I remain completely convinced. So much depends on Republican led investigations though. Thought NYT had lead on story but now believe that to be incorrect. WAPO information still seems credible though. They continue to circle it I believe and WH knows this.

    Question: Is Hillary in 2012 still on the table?

    Insider: Unfortunately, not nearly as much as a few months ago. The last I was told, she is still playing coy on it among the donors, but actually weighing options for 2016, including retirement from public service. I don’t think that is her favorite option though. Bill wants her to go for it, but their time together is more and more infrequent these days so his influence on her ultimate decision is secondary. It disappoints me greatly. I’m still hopeful something will happen to push Hillary back into being willing to take on Obama in 2012. The investigations perhaps? I will say this. Prior to midterms, some of the big money was indicating being open to Hillary in ‘12. I believe I mentioned that to you or someone else at the time. They were very unhappy w/Obama. Pelosi was indicating she was to assist in placing considerable pressure against Obama. She had/has information damaging to the president. It may be related to the birther stuff. I remain confident saying that. Then something happened. It was a seismic shift in sentiment. Deals were likely made. Enough that the donors backed away from open support of Hillary and Pelosi was given the minority position and then she quickly backed off as well. It was a total 180 from the months before. Whatever was done to make that happen so quickly was significant, but people are not talking. ????

    Question: William Daley to the WH. I assume that was the big news you spoke of regarding big changes in the administration coming. Congratulations on another good call. And Gibbs is gone too.

    Insider: The Daley appointment is HUGE. If there wasn’t the shooting in Tucson, it would be the number one story right now heading into the SOTU. Bill Daley is good people. I like and respect him a lot. His going to the Obama White House is a clear indicator of just how desperate Obama and Jarrett have become to try and connect with the American people again. Daley is the kind of Democrat I and most others understand. How he will fit in with the Obama administration???? That I don’t understand. If they listen to him, and no scandal breaks open before the election, Obama will probably win a 2nd term w/o much difficulty. Daley is sharp. I would gladly work for a man like Bill Daley. I would no longer be willing to work for a man like Barack Obama. So that makes for an interesting situation, huh? I’m gonna be watching the dynamics of this one closely. FYI: Daley coming to the WH was Jarrett’s call 100%. Obama was basically told he was going to be the new Chief of Staff. And I would remind you that it was me who told you that this was Jarrett’s White House some time ago, remember? And who is now the last one standing? Valerie Jarrett. As for Gibbs, I really thought that was going to happen sooner, so can’t take much credit for giving you that one. He was to announce leaving much sooner but then was told to hold off on that announcement. Jarrett wanted him to hold off IMO. Not sure why. Perhaps the administration was looking too chaotic? At any rate, as I said Jarrett now remains. It’s her White House. Will be very interesting to watch and see if Daley challenges that, especially if he has Chicago information that could compromise Jarrett/Obama. Some deal there? So many questions on this one I don’t know where to start.

    Question: I was told by another source that President Obama’s health remains a “concern” within the White House? Can you confirm?

    Insider: I can’t confirm beyond the fact I have heard similar things as well, maybe a bit more. I have not seen the president in person for some time now. I do believe he is still being treated for some form of depression or related issue. And his smoking remains a concern. He has not quit. So I have nothing more than what you have already heard. I would like to know who told you though. -Deleted- at WAPO?

    Question: Prediction?

    Insider: I still believe a primary challenge from the Democratic Party will come against Obama, and will be announced within next few months. I also believe Mike Huckabee is the frontrunner for the Republicans and the man most capable of defeating Obama in 12. More important to any of that though is what comes out of House oversight in the next month or so. If it appears quiet, I fear a deal was made and Obama survives the scandal. Oh, and also heard from reliable source Geithner soon to announce he is leaving. He will be the next big name to drop in this administration. There was apparently quite a battle over that over last couple months but in the end Jarrett sided with recomendation he should step down. If Geithner has lost Jarrett’s support then he is in fact done.

  162. BigCatLover
    January 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    If there are condos in your development already in foreclosure, your best way out, is contacting the bank asking for approval for a short sale.

    Some banks will give you $5,000 to $8,000+ for moving expenses. Depending on how quickly you need to sell, everyday you stay in the condo, your condo is worth less. The only way you can recoup your money is if you are prepared to sit tight for another 3-4 yrs until the market turns around. What state are you in?

  163. Oh darn, confloyd won’t be able to send that Valentine candy to Adinnerjacket. Flowers, candy, hearts…all things to celebrate Valentine’s Day have been banned in Iran, that country of love. 😡

    Bah-humbug.

  164. I know what happened, its called old fashioned black mail. Pelosi has the dope on the Potus and is using it to get what she wants and that is to stay relavant. Of coarse she says she will not be in her little small office long. So he’s promised her something else. It will be a while before she gets it though, otherwise the masses would get suspicious!

  165. #
    BigCatLover
    January 18th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Didn’t that story about BO and MO high fiving come fom the so-called WH insider. I want to see the photo that was mentioned before I really believe these stories.
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    I want to see that picture too but doubt it will ever surface.

  166. #
    JanH
    January 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    “Behind the staging area, Obama gave Michelle a “high five” and shared a laugh with her. ”

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    I am beyond disgusted by this crass and juvenile behavior.

    There are no words.
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    There were similar stories from the 08 campaign about how he would go back stage incredulous (not in a good way) at how they were lapping up his words.. kind of like ‘can’t believe they are falling for this’ or something like ‘can’t believe it is working’.

  167. nomobama
    January 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
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    They may actually be right in thinking they are too smart because look at the people who have fallen for them, the nitwit Obots.

  168. confloyd
    January 18th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
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    May be he will dump Biden and make her the VP and she will leak whatever she has on him and he steps down and she will become the POTUS. How is that for a story?

  169. he is going to primary Obama.
    Still, if it happens the bots will have to stick to voting in their own primary and won’t be able to screw with the republican side.

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    Oh, good point there.

  170. Luckily Palin is really good at turning attacks into opportunities. I think when she posted her video response to the Tucson accusations, my first reaction was: ” that’s an audition for How I Will Lead The Nation in Times of Crisis If I am President and she pretty much aced it” and my second reaction was that Mittens must be tearing his impeccable hair out that he doesn’t get to audition. Heh.

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    Ha! Great!

  171. If you read his book “Dreams..” you may see this:

    Curiously, when Obama found the article about Obama Sr.’s departure, he found it “folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms.” Later in Dreams, in a passage heretofore overlooked, Obama unwittingly reveals that there may have been problems with that birth certificate.

    On the occasion of his father’s death in 1982, lawyers contacted anyone who might have claim to the estate. “Unlike my mum,” Obama tells his half-sister Auma in Dreams, “Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark’s father was.”

    Ruth obviously could produce a marriage license and a birth certificate for her son Mark. Ann Dunham apparently could not do the same for her son Barack, at least not one that could tie him to Obama Sr. — not even with a potential payoff on the table.

    The long form birth certificate could pose a number of problems other than country of origin, including the date of Obama’s birth, the state of his birth, and the identity of his father. Any one of these revelations could unravel the yarn that Obama has been spinning.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/what_obama_has_said_about_his.html

  172. OBAMA’S CHOICE

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on January 18, 2011

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    President Obama has made all the symbolic moves he needs to move to the center. But the essence of successful triangulation has to be rooted in policy not in image. As key policy issues come up in Congress, the president will have to move to the center or continue to hang out on the left. His choice will set the stage for the elections of 2012.

    The symbolism of his response to the Tucson shootings reminded us of President Clinton at Oklahoma City. His initiative to reduce federal regulation is, at least, a cosmetic improvement. (Although it comes as he prepares, by executive action, to impose a carbon tax on American business, a ban on secret ballots in union elections, and FCC efforts to cripple talk radio). His appointment of Daily as his Chief of Staff sent a signal of coming moderation.

    But the rubber will meet the road when the feds run out of money next month and need an increase in the federal debt limit to continue to operate. Republicans in the House will pass the increase, but only if the legislation also enacts big spending cuts at the same time. These cuts – running in excess of $100 billion a year – will roll back the increases in spending triggered by the stimulus package and reverse the trend of the Obama years, shrinking rather than expanding the federal government.

    How will Obama respond?

    If he stands his ground and refuses to sign the bill with the spending cut attached, he will trigger a governmental crisis par excellence. Social Security checks may not go out. Soldiers may not get paid. The government may close. And the fight will be simple: Should we borrow more or spend less? With public opinion solidly behind the Republicans on the issue, Obama may well see the wisdom in beating a retreat.

    But at what price? If Obama folds and agrees to big cuts in education, transportation, environmental and other spending, he will anger the left catalyzing a possible primary fight. He will, in the view of his 2008 supporters, have “sold out” and demands will increase for a liberal alternative in 2012.

    And Obama will look weak as he folds in the face of the Republican Congress. He will appear to lack conviction and the power to make his views stick. Weakness is a disease that destroys presidencies.

    Republicans need to make his dilemma more acute by extending the debt limit for only three months (about $500 billion) to force Obama to come back to the well for more water before the summer. And then, once again, Republicans can use the legislation as a way of forcing a rollback in Obama’s agenda – like the defunding of health care?

    Either way, Obama has a tough choice – fight on the wrong side of public opinion or look weak caving in!

  173. For some reason, I still remain skeptical about the DC Insider. Whoever this person is, the secret information he purports to know could still be garnered by a close reading of many blogs, newspapers, etc.

    For instance, he claims to have broken the story about Jarret being in charge of the WH, but anyone who has been following the Obama drama closely for a while now could have for themselves figured out the pecking order in the WH. Observations about who Obama takes to certain high profile events, research into who Obama has known the longest, etc could have also led one to the same conclusion, with or without any ‘insider’ information.

    The other thing to remember about the Insider is that he has been wrong before. In one of his early columns, he said something along the lines of “Obama has never lost an election.” Well this is patently false — think Bobby Rush. So that kind of oversight is rather sloppy, imo. His latest comment about Bill Daley also is another such an example, and it leads me to wonder if he may not know as much as he wants others to think he knows.

    The story about Daley, which I have noticed has oft been overlooked or ignored by the media, is that Bill Daley was in fact a Senior Adviser to the Obama Campaign.

    Admin was among the first to report this, back in a April 2007 Hillaryis44 article, and I also remember a late 2007 article by Michael Sneed of the Chicago Sun-Times which also stated that Bill Daley, now the Chief of Staff, was a senior adviser in the Obama campaign. I went to go look for that Michael Sneed article, but it is no longer at the Chicago Sun-Times. However I did at the time keep a partial screen shot of the article, and if one is curious, they can drop following quote into Google and you will see other links to it at the time:

    “As Chicago Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed reported this week, Bill Daley has signed on as a senior adviser to Obama, who is expected to formally enter the presidential race next month.”

    So to bring this back to the DC Insider, when I see this person talk about Daley as if he is now some saving grace, outsider in the Obama Administration, I find it more difficult to take him seriously. How can he say something like that, when Daley was one of the earliest Obama endorsers and held a position as a Senior Adviser?!?! I mean, I know the DailyKooks are dumb — and really, they should just spare the rest of us the melodrama of their phony indignation at Daley’s appointment, they would have known about the Daley and Obama connection had they bothered to do their research — but to hear the Insider’s bluster, without even the slightest clue that he may know what he’s talking about, well imo, it’s just all a bit too incredulous.

    As an aside, I am still curious as to why the media is not bringing to light this connection that Daley had (and early on at that) with the Obama campaign? What is the reason behind playing down the relationship the two have had before?

  174. For some reason, I still remain skeptical about the DC Insider. Whoever this person is, the secret information he purports to know could still be garnered by a close reading of many blogs, newspapers, etc.

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    Right. I’ve never seen anything in this ‘Insider’s posts that wasn’t already in H44.

    Not that I’m reading ‘Insider’ closely either. Smells like ectoplasm cut with snake oil.

  175. votermom – but women are the majority of people in the world – I don’t think we’re just not used to hearing their voices.

    I just don’t have the right words. The voice is part of it, but I’m talking the whole package of presentation. I usually see what I call her “pitbull personality”, and I love it, she’s the only one out there who will speak up to Obama.

    Most of us have different ways to express ourselves. For example, our serious side, our playful side, our distracted side, our “pitbull” side, etc. Have you ever met someone who has ONE side? I’ve met a couple who only had manic sides, and since they never shut up, they never heard a word you managed to get in – and they went throughout all the different aspects of their lives with that same approach. I’ve also met people who are always argumentative and critical, can never say they were wrong – and those people went through their whole lives, in all situations, with that approach.

    My conern about Palin, and it involves more than the voice, is that she seems to have one approach to face the world – the bulldog. (I saw something different after the AZ tragedy, and I hope it sticks around, it seemed more mature and modulated.) She seems to have high energy, speaks fast, is bubbly, and when she goes after a target, calls them straight out. All great for “bulldog” work. But she has to have other sides to show in the appropriate situations, or she will not seem presidential.

    A president must have times in which she is calm, composed, and bringing people together, maybe reassuring them, letting them take comfort in the quiet resolve in her eyes, NOT because she is expressing herself frantically with fast words and a high pitched voice. You know, there’s a time to be a bulldog, there’s a time to party (8 straight years in BO’s case), there’s a time to lead with composure a frightened electorate.

    So, I’m just saying, I hope she learns to develop other ways to express herself, or if she knows them, starts rolling them out.

  176. December 2010 Arctic sea ice extent lowest on record, December ice volume lowest on record, Hudson Bay does not freeze over at the end of the year for the first time in history.

    Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent in December 2010 was the lowest in the 31-year satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Ice volume in December was also the lowest on record for this time of year, according to University of Washington Polar Ice Center. At the end of December, the eastern portion of Canada’s Hudson Bay remained unfrozen, the first time in recorded history that Hudson Bay has not been completely frozen over at the end of the year. The unusual amount of open water led to temperatures that averaged 20 °C (36 °F) above normal over a region larger than Texas during the first ten days of January.

  177. Fifth Dimension
    January 19th, 2011 at 12:12 am
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    I agree. What sucked me in was his reports on the inner workings of the media, but there again he merely confirmed what we already knew. We are asked to believe that he supported the fraud in the primary, but now regrets doing so, and is going public with this information why? To save the party? Because he was a true blue democrat who got deceived? This could just as easily be a Derjinsky operation like The Trust, which was a Boshevik deep cover operation designed to smoke out white russians and spy on their activities. Whatever the motivation, I am skeptical at this point as well.

  178. So, I’m just saying, I hope she learns to develop other ways to express herself, or if she knows them, starts rolling them out.

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    And if she already has other ways of speech, I hope videos of them reach us. I doubt the MSM will help circulate them.

  179. turndown: “Might do worse. Wasn’t she [Gillibrand] sort of an unofficial protegee of Hillary’s? Certainly a supporter.”

    Yup. Gillibrand was planning to go into a legal career but Hillary inspired her to go into politics. Then she supported Hillary’s run, and she was Hillary’s choice to replace herself in the Senate.

    In the House, Gillibrand was a conservative, a Blue Dog. In the Senate, though, she seems to defer to Schumer, which Hillary never did. Sort of a bummer.

    Kirsten should run for president sometime. If she does while I’m still around, she’ll have my support though that support might not be as enthusiastic as it has been for Hillary.

  180. 5th Dimension: “For some reason, I still remain skeptical about the DC Insider.”

    The reasons you give are pretty clear. I’ve always assumed the Ulsterman thing is a kind of Plato-Socrates dialog, with the Insider in this case simply being a figment of Ulsterman’s imagination, a kind of fictional sounding board. I read the “reports” only out of intellectual comfort, ie because they bear out what a Hillary supporter wants to hear.

  181. I posted a comment earlier but I don’t see that it posted. Am I in moderation? Don’t post very often but do read every day.

  182. I’ve always assumed the Ulsterman thing is a kind of Plato-Socrates dialog, with the Insider in this case simply being a figment of Ulsterman’s imagination, a kind of fictional sounding board.

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    That’s a charitable way to put it. I see the same sort of wishful sounding board — but to me it sounds like a fraudulent medium spirit voice cold reading a client, or whatever they call it.

  183. From WSJ:

    “BY FOUAD AJAMI
    ‘In too many places, in too many ways, the region’s foundations are sinking into the sand,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned Arab autocrats in a remarkable speech in Qatar last week.

    The Arab landscape all around her provided ample confirmation. In Tunisia, Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, a despot who has been in power for nearly a quarter-century, was reeling. His people had conquered their fear and had taken to the streets. In Cairo, the Pharoah the Pax Americana has indulged through five American presidencies appeared to be losing his touch, his once-tolerant country engulfed by sectarian troubles …”

    [have to subscribe for the rest]

  184. turndown: “…it sounds like a fraudulent medium spirit voice cold reading a client…”

    On the upside of that blog, ‘fraudulent’ use of 2 fictional characters (1 = the ‘Ulsterman’ user name and 2 = ‘Insider’) would be a good ploy for someone who is actually in the WH but wants to cover his tracks completely. The writer would in that case invent both characters. But it would then be in the writer’s interest to invent several ‘insiders’ to cover his tracks even more – I think the audience is getting suspicious of this single ‘insider’ who supposedly hasn’t been in or near the WH for a long time but still mysteriously has inside information…

  185. weird… I click on the link I posted and get the short version now.

    Well, interested citizens need to know:

    By FOUAD AJAMI

    “In too many places, in too many ways, the region’s foundations are sinking into the sand,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned Arab autocrats in a remarkable speech in Qatar last week.

    The Arab landscape all around her provided ample confirmation. In Tunisia, Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, a despot who has been in power for nearly a quarter-century, was reeling. His people had conquered their fear and had taken to the streets. In Cairo, the Pharoah the Pax Americana has indulged through five American presidencies appeared to be losing his touch, his once-tolerant country engulfed by sectarian troubles between Muslims and Copts. Lebanon, which had once been a showcase of American success in the region, was once again in the throes of a political crisis.

    But there was a truth that our secretary of state glided over. Sinking into the sand, too, is the worldview that informed President Obama’s approach to the Middle East.

    Mr. Obama had come into office with a belief that he knew and understood the Islamic world. He was proud that Islam was a strand in his identity. He was sure that the policy of his predecessor had antagonized Islam. President George W. Bush’s “diplomacy of freedom” was not given the grace of a decent burial. “Ideology is so yesterday,” Secretary Clinton proudly proclaimed in early 2009. Realpolitik was to be the order of the day.

    The Bush diplomacy had declared an open ideological assault against the Iranian theocracy. Mr. Obama would offer that regime an olive branch and a promise of engagement. Syria had been pushed out of Lebanon and viewed as a renegade regime that had done its best to frustrate the American war in Iraq. The Obama diplomacy would offer the rulers in Damascus diplomatic rehabilitation.

    Thus the word went forth to the despots in the region that the American campaign on behalf of liberty that Mr. Bush had launched in 2003 had been called off. A new Iraqi democracy, midwifed by American power, was fighting for its life. The Obama administration would keep Iraq at arm’s length.

    This break of faith with democracy was put on cruel display in the summer of 2009, when the Iranians rose in revolt against their rulers. True, American diplomacy was not likely to alter the raw balance of power between the regime and its democratic oppositionists. But the timidity of American power, and the refusal of the Obama administration to embrace the cause of the opposition, must be reckoned one of American foreign policy’s great moral embarrassments.

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    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned Arab leaders that the foundations of progress in the Middle East are “sinking into the sand.”
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    No one called on the president to dispatch the Marines to Tehran, but the deference of the pre-eminent liberal power to men who had unleashed the vigilantes on their own people was at once a moral and a strategic failure. An American president who prided himself on his oratory could not find the language that would express the age-old American belief that our country is invested, morally and strategically, in the spread and triumph of liberty.

    Mr. Obama had said he was willing to deal with the theocracy and regimes like it so long as they were willing to “unclench their fist.” Instead, a more heartless dictatorship had taken hold. The theocrats had no interest in granting Mr. Obama concessions. They were sure that they could hold their ground, and that America was bound to capitulate. Iran’s rulers took Mr. Obama’s measure: The opposition at home could be broken, and the drive for hegemony in the region, and for nuclear weapons, could be pursued without running appreciable risks.

    No wonder the Hezbollah movement has shown such defiance in recent days. Iran’s proxies in Lebanon brought down that country’s coalition government as Prime Minister Saad Hariri sat down for a meeting with Mr. Obama.

    Now that sort of gamesmanship is, by Hezbollah’s standards, a sin of minor proportions. Hezbollah’s leaders had struck in anticipation of an indictment of its members by an international tribunal investigating the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

    But an undeniable truth hovers over Lebanon: the ebb of American power. Five or six years ago, the Lebanese rebellion against Damascus had been emboldened by American power and protection. The “Cedar Revolution” that brought about the withdrawal of Syrian troops was both Lebanese and a child of the American presence and prestige in that country.

    But the Syrians had been eager to retrieve what they had given up under duress. The solicitude shown Damascus by the Obama administration convinced the Lebanese that a different wind now blew in Washington, and that they and their country were being given up in a Syrian-American accommodation. In the best of worlds, it is difficult for the Lebanese, divided among themselves as they have been throughout their modern history, to hold their own against Syria. But their abandonment by the U.S. was a devastating blow to those among them who wished for their country a political order of peace and normalcy.

    The power of the region’s autocracies has given rise to a belief that there is an “Arab-Islamic exceptionalism” to the appeal of liberty. In its years of ascendancy, the Bush diplomacy had battled against the “soft bigotry of low expectations.” It was a supreme irony that Barack Obama, who had spoken of a great opening onto the Islamic world, had returned American policy to its older acceptance of the “differentness” of the Arabs, to the inevitability of tyranny in their midst.

    It took the embattled Muslim liberals a while to catch on to the moral indifference of the Obama administration. But catch on they did, and in their unequal struggle with the tyrannies in their midst they have operated on the reasonable assumption that the leading liberal power in the world order had no interest in the promotion of their liberty.

    Tunisia came as a bolt out of the blue, and Arab rulers and oppositionists alike now watch and wonder whether this is the first domino to fall, or a case apart. In Tunisia, the proposition will be tested as to whether the Arabs can break out of that dreadful choice between the autocrats in the saddle and the radical Islamists in the shadows. “Our president and king must be go,” read a Tunisian posting on an electronic daily. The grammar was flawed, the sentiment easy to make out.

    For a fleeting moment in Qatar, George W. Bush seemed to make a furtive return to the diplomatic arena. He was there, reincarnated in the person of Hillary Clinton, bearing that quintessential American message that our country cannot be indifferent to the internal arrangements of foreign lands. The Arab world presents a great strategic and moral challenge. These are states with a broken compact between rulers and ruled. The rulers produce the very terror and rage they propose to hold back. The oppositionists, meanwhile, are a great, troubling unknown.

    Mr. Ajami is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

  186. Unlike the Wall St Journal, I don’t hear the shrub (Bush Jr) when Hillary speaks. Here is what she said from the State Dept. website:

    Remarks
    Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of State
    Forum for the Future: Partnership Dialogue Panel Session
    Ritz Carlton
    Doha, Qatar
    January 13, 2011

    MR. FOSTER: Good morning. Thank you very much for joining us here, at the seventh Forum for the Future. My name is David Foster, and I will be moderating this discussion involving our panelists here, and of course, a great many of you out here, as well.

    For the past five years, it’s been my privilege to work here in Qatar for Al-Jazeera English. And one of our mottos has always been, “Every angle, every side,” which is, effectively, what this is about. It’s about dialogue (inaudible). And we will work our way from this side.

    First of all, may I ask, Madam Secretary, Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State of the United States of America (inaudible).

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you very much, David. I am honored to be here again at the Forum for the Future, especially with so many friends and colleagues from the G8 and from the Middle East.

    I am delighted to join with Sheikh Khalid, who is a great colleague of mine in the foreign ministry, and I look forward to hearing from Slaheddine Jourchi, whose work on human rights and democracy in Tunisia I admire — and, of course, it is especially timely today — and Mohamed El-Masry, president of the Federation of Egyptian Chambers of Commerce.

    This is the last stop on a trip that has brought me from Abu Dhabi and Dubai to Yemen, Oman, and now to Doha. On this short, but intense journey, I saw many signs of the potential for a new and innovative Middle East: a solar-powered city rising from the sands of the UAE; civil society leaders in Oman partnering with their government to improve education and create economic opportunities; a young Yemeni woman and a young Yemeni man, both of whom studied abroad and then returned to work for progress in Yemen. And of course, here in Qatar, the home of the 2022 World Cup, we see many examples of a commitment to innovation. Last year I visited Education City, which is connecting Qatar’s young people to the global economy.

    So, wherever I go, in my conversations with people from all walks of life—from officials at the highest levels of government to university students, religious leaders, and engaged citizens, one message has consistently emerged: People are deeply proud of this region and what it has accomplished, but they are also profoundly concerned about the trends in many parts of the broader Middle East, and what the future holds.

    We all know this region faces serious challenges, even beyond the conflicts that dominate the headlines of the day. And we have a lot of work to do. This forum was designed to be not just an annual meeting where we talk with and at each other, but a launching pad for some of the institutional changes that will deal with the challenges that we all know are present.

    For example, a growing majority of this region is under the age of 30. In fact, it is predicted that in just one country, Yemen, the population will double in 30 years. These young people have a hard time finding work. In many places, there are simply not enough jobs. Across the region, one in five young people is unemployed. And in some places, the percentage is far more. While some countries have made great strides in governance, in many others people have grown tired of corrupt institutions and a stagnant political order. They are demanding reform to make their governments more effective, more responsive, and more open. And all this is taking place against a backdrop of depleting resources: water tables are dropping, oil reserves are running out, and too few countries have adopted long-term plans for addressing these problems.

    Each country, of course, has its own distinct challenges, and each its own achievements. But in too many places, in too many ways, the region’s foundations are sinking into the sand. The new and dynamic Middle East that I have seen needs firmer ground if it is to take root and grow everywhere. And that goal brings us to this Forum.

    I believe that the leaders of this region, in partnership with their people, have the capacity to build that stronger foundation. There are enough models and examples in the region to point to, to make the economic and social reforms that will create jobs, respect the right of diversity to exist, create more economic opportunity, encourage entrepreneurship, give citizens the skills they need to succeed, to make the political reforms that will create the space young people are demanding, to participate in public affairs and have a meaningful role in the decisions that shape their lives.

    So to my friends, the leaders of these countries, I would say: You can help build a future that your young people will believe in, stay for, and defend. Some of you are already demonstrating that. But for others it will take new visions, new strategies and new commitments. It is time to see civil society not as a threat, but as a partner. And it is time for the elites in every society to invest in the futures of their own countries.

    Those who cling to the status quo may be able to hold back the full impact of their countries’ problems for a little while, but not forever. If leaders don’t offer a positive vision and give young people meaningful ways to contribute, others will fill the vacuum. Extremist elements, terrorist groups, and others who would prey on desperation and poverty are already out there, appealing for allegiance and competing for influence. So this is a critical moment, and this is a test of leadership for all of us.

    I am here to pledge my country’s support for those who step up to solve the problems that we and you face. We want to build stronger partnerships with societies that are on the path to long-term stability and progress — business, government and civil society, as represented on this panel, must work together, as in our new regional initiative called Partners for a New Beginning. We know that what happens in this region will have implications far beyond.

    Now, America cannot solve these problems. And I know you understand that. But it bears repeating. What we need is a real vision for that future that comes from each of you, from governments that must deliver on their promises, from civil society and business leaders who must build their people up, and of course, from the people themselves.

    The Middle East is brimming with talent. It is blessed with resources, enriched by strong traditions of faith and family. This rising generation of young people has the potential to achieve so much, and we need to give them the chance to do so.

    So, here at the Forum for the Future, let us face honestly that future. Let us discuss openly what needs to be done. Let us use this time to move beyond rhetoric, to put away plans that are timid and gradual, and make a commitment to keep this region moving in the right direction. People are looking for real leadership in the 21st century, and I think it can be provided, and I know that this is the moment to do so.

    Thank you very much.

  187. Pl. educate me because I don’t know much about birth certificates in this country. What does the Hawaii governor mean by ‘written down’, see the bolded part below?

    Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?

    A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

    (Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

    It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down …

    …What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

    If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html

  188. I think there is something we are not looking at here. O became President because the White Man (WM) chose him, not becasue the AA chose him. Of course they voted and still will vote for him, as they wanted an AA leader in the WH for history. I think it is failing because the WM did chose him.

    The same will be true of a women. The WM wants to choose the women that goes in the white house, vs the women choosing her. I think that candidate will be half axx just as O has been. They did not choose HRC, because she is too strong, and does not need or want them.

    O needed them, and other women would need them. I think this is a mistake for the WM to choose who the leader of te AAs and the Women should be. I think we know why, as we are seeing the results of that.

  189. We have this exchange back and forth everytime there is a new Insider installment. Read it for fun. It is not anymore truthful than the news reports we see. They lie by omission and this guy lies by imagination. The key is to look for tells as many of you already do.

  190. wbboei
    January 19th, 2011 at 12:07 am
    OBAMA’S CHOICE
    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
    Obama has a tough choice – fight on the wrong side of public opinion or look weak caving in!
    ——————————
    The wise and wonderful (FDR/Lincoln-like) path would be for him “think outside of the box, freeze foreclosures and push for reinstatement of Glass-Steagall, reasserting the “General Welfare” clause of the Preamble to the Constitution, tell Wall Street and London-offshores to eat their losses, and then push for using federal credit to get the states out of their desperate situation. Then more FDR-like development and employment projects.

    I believe most of the people would applaud this. The stinking cartel “media” and other forces trying to destroy the United States of America would not.

    We seem to be trapped in a sinking box with no leadership to break out of it!

    Was Hillary stopped from being the Dem nominee because she was the only one who might have undertaken FDR-type policies? I think so, and I said so during the primaries. If the various political parties can play their chess-games of power-grubbing, what’s to stop international forces from doing the same? I’m trying to say this is not just a Democrat-Republican, or Left-Right problem.) There are families, networks and (for example) financial institutions who have been doing just this for hundreds of years. They hold our lives in their grubby paws. They think they are entitled, and that’s simply the way things are. The only life they want to allow us is in their system. Well, their system is evil and our ancestors fought the war of independence to be free from it and establish a better system.

    So I wish our newspapers and journals of the day (DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN) would remember along those lines instead of constantly banging around inside of the box we are supposed to die in.

    /rant

  191. Not that it matters because big media has put their how to re-elect Obama strategy on a dry run and proven that when they saturate the airways with lies and innuendo, praise any speech they put in front of The Fraud and dummy the polls so they can write about a surge, they can in fact drive up his numbers for a short period of time. Combine that with a Reichstag fire and sending 17 investigative reporters to Alaska to dig up anything on his political opponent and you do not need a crystal ball to see how they will do it. It will happen, believe me. And that is why they must be taken down. This thing is moving toward total corporate control of our political system, and our life. The right sees it, and so does the left. The hard left believes in the totalitarian model but they do not want business to control it. Also, like all totalitarians, they are purveyors of hate. The right is in a seige mode and there is no telling what they will ultimately do. Many Christians see themselves in the role of Christians thrown into the colisseum with lions and wait for their hour of salvation. Others are inclined to take a more worldly approach as they dig in. But you can see the handwriting on the wall rather clearly. Big business has written off the American People as a market and as a source of labor. That statement is not absolute but it is largely true. And here is the most evil part of it: do you recall when Dingleberry from Michigan talked about the need to control the American People. Well, we now see that the same company who promoted Obama General Electric has merged with Comcast to control broadcast and internet communication. With that it is only a matter of time before they also control the message on both fronts. The entrepenurs like DK will be marginalized and they are too stupid to see it. A wise man is a dispassionate one who looks at the evidence and draws rational conclusions. The big blog boys have never been–how shall I put it–rational. The other thing to note is even as China announces the death of the dollar General Electric signs multi billion dollar contracts with them, and if past if prologue they will substitute Chinese labor for American labor, and tax us for their treason. Enough on that. The only answer is for the American People to not give their eyeballs to big media. If they consume the crap, they will not see their own demise coming.

  192. pm317
    January 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
    Pl. educate me because I don’t know much about birth certificates in this country. What does the Hawaii governor mean by ‘written down’, see the bolded part below?

    If Abercrombie is not talking out of his hat this is extremely bad news for Obama. “Written down” to me means that it is not a hospital, attending physician, or midwife submitted and typed up all formal like state birth record. He is describing it as if it is an informally submitted report scribbled out on a Big Chief tablet in pencil, and not a record submitted for health, census, and legal reasons. The terminology used by Gov Abercrombie is not precise but very suggestive of someone who is figuring out that what he has been told about a legal document is not what actually exists. As explained repeatedly to the press, and the Obots, the birth record submitted by the Obama campaign was an abstract of some kind of record but not a full certificate of live birth. Now the governor is suggesting that a full birth certificate may not even exist, whether by omission or destruction is hard to say.

  193. Comment: At this point, it is merely cumulative to note the great hypocrisy of big media–if you study the evidence. If you do not then this blog by Moe Lane, and the Byron York article that follows will provide a sort of wake up call. Byron is from the Washington Examiner which is an organization of honest capable journalists who maintain the standards of their profession and do speak truth to power. How different from the dead souls who draw their paychecks fro CNN, NBC and ABC who have no regard whatsoever for their profession and make a market in lies, as long as their employer provides full health insurance and matches their 401K contributions. That is all they are. This gets back to an old argument I had with a member of one of the great newspaper families. She assured me that their coverage would become less partisan when the American People rejected the myth of Obama. I disagreed with her and sadly I was right. Her mistake was in believing that a decline in market share and profits would force them to revert to honest standards. That may have been true in the past, but today big media is controlled by conglomerates who can let their news departments fail and still make money for their parent companies at the other end, whether it is in China after controlled politicians open the right doors for them, or when those politicians commit public money to support business opportunities which they cannot easily finance through a commercial bank like building nuclear reactors.
    ——————————————————————–
    Crosshairs in the Crosshairs

    This is starting to get old.
    Posted by Moe Lane (Profile)
    Wednesday, January 19th at 9:00AM EST
    3 Comments
    Byron York is a very smart guy, and he’s done yeoman work in cataloging CNN’s horrible, horrible use of ‘crosshairs’ terminology in days gone past. But I’d just like to hammer this point home: said use of the term by CNN did not cause the following groups:

    PETA
    People who don’t like MasterCard
    Mystical nature spirits responsible for flooding conditions in California*
    People who don’t like the suspects in a missing-person case
    The FDA
    An unnamed US military commander who doesn’t like an Afghan warlord
    People who don’t like Obamacare
    People who don’t like Michelle Bachmann

    In which case, I have a request: ma’am, could you make another quick video? In it, look right into the camera and say “You will allow Obamacare an up-or-down vote in the Senate” while moving two fingers in a half-arc wave. Who knows? The Jedi Mind Trick might work over transmitted media; if not, she can always fly into Washington and use the Voice on them directly**. Besides, what’s the harm in trying?

    ———————————-

    POLITICS FROM THE NATION’S CAPITAL

    Before banning ‘crosshairs,’ CNN used it to refer to Palin, Bachmann
    COMMENTS (1) SHARE PRINT
    By: Byron York 01/19/11 8:08 AM
    Chief Political Correspondent

    CNN’s John King is attracting a lot of notice — and some ridicule — in the blogosphere for his on-air apology after a guest used the word “crosshairs” during a report on Chicago politics Tuesday. (The guest, a former Chicago reporter, referred to two rivals of mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel, saying Emanuel is “in both of their crosshairs.”) “We were just having a discussion about the Chicago mayoral race,” King told viewers. “My friend Andy Shaw…used the term ‘in the crosshairs’ in talking about the candidates out there. We’re trying, we’re trying to get away from that language. Andy is a good friend, he’s covered politics for a long time, but we’re trying to get away from using that kind of language. We won’t always be perfect, so hold us accountable when we don’t meet your standards.”

    King’s statement comes after widespread discussion of whether Sarah Palin’s now-infamous “crosshairs” map targeting vulnerable Democratic candidates in last November’s elections somehow caused the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson January 8. There has been plenty of that kind of speculation on CNN, including on Tuesday, the day of John King’s statement, when one brief discussion of Palin used the word “crosshairs” five times.

    Now, King says, CNN is “trying to get away” from such terms, suggesting that in the wake of the Tucson shootings, such language should no longer be part of the public conversation. But if Palin is to blame for using crosshairs in her much-discussed map, then CNN, by its own use of the allegedly inflammatory term “crosshairs,” might also share some blame for creating the atmosphere that led to the violence in Arizona. A look at transcripts of CNN programs in the month leading up to the shootings shows that the network was filled with references to “crosshairs” — and once even used the term to suggest the targeting of Palin herself. Some examples:

    “Palin’s moose-hunting episode on her reality show enraged People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and now, she’s square in the crosshairs of big time Hollywood producer, Aaron Sorkin,” reported A.J. Hammer of CNN’s Headline News on December 8.

    “Companies like MasterCard are in the crosshairs for cutting ties with WikiLeaks,” said CNN Kiran Chetry in a December 9 report.

    “Thousands of people living in areas that are in the crosshairs have been told to evacuate,” Chetry said in a December 21 report on flooding in California.

    “He’s in their crosshairs,” said a guest in a December 21 CNN discussion of suspects in a missing-person case.

    “This will be the first time your food will be actually in the crosshairs of the FDA,” business reporter Christine Romans said on December 22.

    “The U.S. commander in the East has Haqqani in his crosshairs,” CNN’s Barbara Starr reported on December 28, referring to an Afghan warlord.

    “We know that health care reform is in the crosshairs again,” CNN’s Joe Johns reported on January 3.

    Seven uses of “crosshairs” in just the month before the Tucson attacks, and just one of them referring to an actual wartime situation. And one reference to Sarah Palin herself as being in “crosshairs.”

    And not just Palin. On September 14, Mark Preston, CNN’s senior political editor, referred to another controversial politician, Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, as being “in the crosshairs.” “Michelle Bachmann is raising lots of money, raising her national profile,” Preston said on September 14. “She is in the crosshairs of Democrats as well.”

    It turns out Preston was back on CNN’s air on Tuesday, discussing Palin’s recent interview on Fox News. “We saw her on Fox News last night where she is a paid contributor,” Preston said. “A kind of a friendly setting, but she defended herself from all the criticism that’s been directed at her regarding a Web site that she had put out where she had used crosshairs over 20 Democratic candidates. Now a lot of people said that her rhetoric is inciting violence. She said that that is not true…”

    “Crosshairs” again. Just for the record, CNN anchors, reporters and guests did absolutely nothing wrong with their use of the word in the last month and before. It would be impossible, at least for any reasonable person, to argue that the network’s use of “crosshairs” in any of the various contexts it was used, was an incitement to violence by anyone, anywhere. But by announcing that “we’re trying to get away” from “crosshairs” and other allegedly incendiary language, CNN is aligning itself with those who blame “rhetoric” for the killings. And by doing that — plus inviting the public to “hold us accountable” — CNN could open itself up to an examination of its own uses of the word and accusations that it helped create an environment that led to violence. Does that make any sense at all?

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/banning-crosshairs-cnn-used-it-refer-palin-bachmann#ixzz1BUYpEa3g

  194. Hi all: DRAFT HILLARY IMPEACH OTRAUMA

    Our girl is more valuable to our country and world peace than two-tone.

    SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    Secretary Clinton appears in taped interviews on ABC’s Good Morning America, CBS’s The Early Show and NBC’s The Today Show. Check your local listings for airtimes.

    9:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton attends the Arrival Ceremony for Chinese President Hu Jintao’s State Visit, at the White House.

    10:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton attends President Obama’s bilateral meetings with Chinese President Hu Jintao, at the White House.

    2:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton, Vice President Biden and Dr. Jill Biden co-host a State Luncheon in honor of Chinese President Hu Jintao, at the Department of State.

    3:50 p.m. Secretary Clinton, Vice President Biden and Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack show President Hu a model of the proposed China Garden in the National Arboretum, at the Department of State.

    4:05 p.m. Secretary Clinton and Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi sign a memorandum of understanding establishing the U.S.-China Governors Forum, at the Department of State.

    6:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends the State Dinner in honor of Chinese President Hu Jintao, at the White House.

  195. Harry Reid has a big gob on him……especially when Hillary is trying to settle nerves after Wikileaks and calm the situation…he does what?

    Harry Reid calls Chinese leader Hu Jintao a ‘dictator’

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) labeled Chinese President Hu Jintao a “dictator,” just as President Barack Obama prepares to host the Chinese leader on Wednesday at a state dinner aimed at soothing tensions between the two world powers.

    Reid’s off-the-cuff comments came Tuesday night during a televised interview with Las Vegas journalist Jon Ralston, who asked the majority leader whether the bipartisan tax compromise Obama struck with Republican leaders last year was a good deal for the country.

    “I am going to go back to Washington and meet with the President of China. He is a dictator. He can do a lot of things through the form of government they have. Maybe I shouldn’t have said dictator, but they have a different type of government then we have, and that is an understatement,” Reid said in the interview.

    “So we have to work in the system we have, the best system ever devised to rule the affairs of men and women,” Reid continued. “And one of the few ways we get things done, in fact the most important way we get things done, is through compromise. It’s not a bad word, and that is how we get things done.”

  196. pm317
    January 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
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    Seems to be lots of blogging about this one item which I haven’t time to read. Only ONE news story (only one? Is this true?) arrgggh… and it is an editorial in local Hawaii paper, not even a news item!

    One would think this would be newsworthy. Maybe they are in a huddle figuring out what to do. Hey, it’s a PR problem, not a Constitutional issue. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html
    …as linked and quoted by pm317 above in this thread. Mormaer’s coment seems spot on–seems like should be big trouble for Obama.

    wbboei is so right, a couple comments up, “The only answer is for the American People to not give their eyeballs to big media. If they consume the crap, they will not see their own demise coming.”

  197. A man can serve two masters, but only if their interests are aligned. When corporations used American labor and served primarily the American market that statement was largely true. But today big business has abandoned the the American People the equation no longer works. Corporations control the American political system, with their money and mass marketing strategies delivered through the big media organizations they won and control. This control began when Jack Welch of GE bought NBC and cleaned out the newsroom and replaced jurnolists with corporate shills. Shortly thereafter GE inspired minions did the infamous Dateline story where they falsely detonated a GM truck and got their asses sued. The corporate control of our political system reached its grand climeractic with the passage of the Soros exception to Campaign Finance Reform which opened the door to control of parties by major donors. That being the case, is it really any surprise that most of our tenured politicians no longer serve the American People. They should be forced to wear jerseys with the corporations they take money from with a baseball cap that reads “The Public Be Damned”–and if you don’t like it I will sick big media one you.

  198. When so called conservatives like David Brooks at NYT and Joe Scarborough hang their hats at organizations like NYT and MSNBC, it is far worse than tokenism. It is more like the great Lakota Souix chief Sitting Bull who spent his final days as a member of the Barnum and Bailey cast of characters frightening rubes and little children. There is no oxygen or real conservatives in those left wing newsrooms. Just lots of liars and a few wooden Indians.

  199. 01/19/2011

    Hillary Clinton reaffirms: I won’t commit to a second term

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appeared on NBC’s The Today Show Wednesday morning to discuss Chinese President Hu Jintao’s visit– and her future.

    During the interview, host Meredith Vieira asked Clinton whether she would serve a second term as Secretary of State. Clinton told the Post in 2009 (and has said repeatedly since then) that she was committed to serving only one term, reiterated her position along with some kind words for Secretary of Defense Robert Gates who joined the Obama administration after having served in that role for President George W. Bush:

    VIEIRA: Do we expect that anytime soon you might announce that you’re planning to retire, like Defense Secretary Gates?

    CLINTON: (Laughs.) No, I have committed to President Obama that I will stay with him this first term, and I intend to do so.

    VIEIRA: How about the second term?

    CLINTON: Well, that is not something I’m in any way committing to or even thinking about. And, by the way, if Secretary Gates is watching, I sure hope he’ll stay, and stay as long as he possibly can. He’s a great colleague and a great leader and has served our country very well. And we’ve got some turbulent waters to navigate through, and it would be great to have him still at the helm of the Defense Department.

    Clinton also weighed in on former vice president Dick Cheney’s assertion that President Obama would be a one-term president saying she “could not disagree more.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/hillary-clinton-wont-commit-to.html

  200. Clinton on Cheney’s Terror Comments: ‘Unfortunate Language,’ Rejects It Completely

    January 19, 2011

    Almost biting her tongue, Hillary Clinton told me that Dick Cheney should not worry about President Obama’s “absolute commitment” to fighting terrorism.

    “I was certainly taken aback by it. I don’t know how anyone who was in the White House, before or now, could doubt any president’s absolute commitment to stopping the terrorists from attacking us,” the secretary of state said.

    In an interview with NBC News the former vice president said he hopes Obama has the same level of commitment to preventing another 9/11 as the Bush administration did, but “we might never find out until there’s actually another attack.”

    Clinton told me she “completely” rejected Cheney’s “unfortunate language,” adding that President Obama’s “entire team is single-mindedly focused” on preventing another terror attack.

    “We’ve had some successes in preventing terrorists from you know, wreaking havoc on our country and working with our friends and allies around the world. I don’t think it’s useful to make such a statement,” she said.

    –George Stephanopoulos

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/01/clinton-on-cheneys-terror-comments-unfortunate-language-rejects-it-completely.html

  201. US Senators ask Clinton to oppose anti-Israel resolution at UN

    Washington, Jan 19 (PTI) As many as 16 US Senators have asked Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to oppose a UNresolution that is being drafted by the Palestinian Authority(PA) in an effort to unilaterally dictate terms to Israel,enabling the PA to avoid direct negotiations.

    “We are very concerned about reports that thePalestinian Authority is drafting a resolution intended forconsideration at the United Nations Security Council regardingissues that have been and should continue to be pursuedthrough direct negotiations between the Palestinian Authorityand Israel, namely borders and settlements,” the Senators saidin a letter to Clinton.

    “We believe such a move hurts the prospects for apeace agreement and is not in the interest of the UnitedStates,” said the letter signed by the Senators led by SenatorKirsten Gillibrand of New York.

    “We strongly urge you to make clear that the UnitedStates will veto such a resolution if it is raised at theCouncil, and to clearly communicate United States” intent todo so to other Security Council members,” it said.

    “A resolution of this nature would work against ourcountry”s consistent position, which has been that this andother issues linked to the Middle East peace process can onlybe resolved by the two parties negotiating directly with eachother,” Gillibrand wrote in her letter.

    “Attempts to use a venue such as the United Nations,which you know has a long history of hostility toward Israel,to deal with just one issue in the negotiations, will not movethe two sides closer to a two-state solution, but ratherdamage the fragile trust between them,” it said.

    http://news.oneindia.in/2011/01/19/ussenators-ask-clinton-to-oppose-anti-israel-resolution-at-aid0126.html

  202. Further on Otrauma’s plans after Hu Jintao’s visit, and o’s “tough choice” according to Dick Morris… “If Obama folds and agrees to big cuts in education, transportation, environmental and other spending, he will anger the left catalyzing a possible primary fight”

    Obama is planning to use his late-January State of the Union address to endorse the genocidal recommendations of his deficit (Catfood) commission, calling for cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and other federal “safety net” programs.

    In an illiterate “tweet” sent out December 25–yes, really, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs stated:

    “POTUS will use both SOTU & budget 2 talk about priorities & focus on our deficit/debt – team looking thru deficit comm recs 2.”

    Gibbs also said the SOTU will be in late January, after the Jan. 19 state visit by Chinese President Hu Jintao.

    This is precisely what liberal-left economist Robert Kuttner described in a Politico column mid-December; that the tax deal negotiated by Obama and Mitch McConnell was just the beginning.

    The second part, now being teed up by the White House and key Senate Democrats, is a scheme for the President to embrace much of the Bowles-Simpson plan — including cuts in Social Security. This is to be unveiled, according to well-placed sources, in the President’s State of the Union address.

    The excuse–to get Democrats to surrender, not fight–being given for this is that it is to preempt an even more draconian set of budget cuts likely to be proposed by the incoming House Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), as a condition of extending the debt ceiling.

    Clever, those genocidal psychos.

  203. moononpluto
    January 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    Via NYT….front page Drudge.

    Az Shooter was a Bush hater…..watch the Dem talking heads explode.
    [snip]
    His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.
    &&&&&

    Maybe we’ll find that he not only hated Bush, but that he voted for The One. And that maybe he was inspired by sayings such as, “If they bring a knife, we bring a …”

    Just sayin’…

  204. HU’S ON FIRST

    Abbott: There’s a very important visitor to our nation’s capital today. Do you know Hu’s in Washington DC today?

    Costello: No, I don’t know who’s in Washington. Care to offer a clue?

    A: Hu.

    C: That’s what I’m asking.

    A: And that’s what I’m saying. Hu is here?

    C: I’d love to know. Why don’t you tell me who is here?

    A: The President of China.

    C: Finally, and what is his name?

    A: No, Wat is is the Vice President. Hu is the president.

    C: You only answer my questions with other questions! Now I don’t know anything.

    A: Ay-dono, he’s the Japanese Minister of Trade.

  205. I am at lunch and I see this video via Hotair:

    http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/01/19/exp.am.cohen.calorie.menus.cnn

    Two nights ago we went to our local Bertucci’s groaning a bit because we didn’t want to eat a pizza. To our surprise they had calories info for each dish on their menu and the next thing I see is that their Tiramisu, a good portion size was only 200 cals and sharing that with my husband, that would be only 100 cals!! So, a salad at 80 cals and lipsmacking half a Tiramisu was just fine for dinner. I hope more restaurants put calorific info on their menu.

  206. BTW, Ed Morissey’s note on that CNN video and the clowns that do the talking there:

    CNN does a terrible job in presenting this, because rather than just speculate that the 960-calorie choice is “all there is,” they could have just checked Taco Time’s website and looked at the nutritional information. In fact, Taco Time offers a wide variety of choices to its customers, and even in burritos the calorie choices range from a Crispy Pinto Bean (360 calories) to the Big Juan with Pork (650 calories). Customers can also buy a Crisp Ground Beef Taco (260 calories) instead of a Super Soft Ground Beef Taco (590 calories). Instead of choosing the large cheddar fries (700 calories), they can order the Mexi-Rice (80 calories). The fact that ordering behavior doesn’t change between the two doesn’t relate to a lack of choice, but to the fact that customers go to Taco Time for a specific experience and know exactly the nature of the food they eat.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/19/video-calorie-counts-on-menus-dont-change-behavior/

  207. jeswezey

    I’ve always assumed the Ulsterman thing is a kind of Plato-Socrates dialog, with the Insider in this case simply being a figment of Ulsterman’s imagination, a kind of fictional sounding board. I read the “reports” only out of intellectual comfort, ie because they bear out what a Hillary supporter wants to hear.

    ———
    I have to admit, to some degree this is also how I feel, but not everything he prints about Hillary I want to hear:

    – Like how Bill wants her to run in 2012 and she is leaning away from it because they don’t see each other as much these days.

    – How she might be more interested in running in 2016, or not at all.
    I really don’t want to wait and let other crackpots run the country until 2016…I want Hillary ASAP.
    The idea of her never being our President is unacceptable.

  208. Was Hillary stopped from being the Dem nominee because she was the only one who might have undertaken FDR-type policies? I think so, and I said so during the primaries.
    ————————–
    Ohansen, you are right. No doubt about it. As some of us recall–although big media has done everything they can to wipe it out, just as their minions scrub websites of contrary facts, Hillary wanted to revisit NAFTA to make sure it was working for American workers as she said in Ohio, whereas Obama set me too and then dispatched that leper Gooslsbee to assure the Canadians it was all just campaign talk and he did not really mean it. Barack? Campaign talk? Really didn’t mean it? Just words? Fuck him. And then there was the fact that Hillary wanted to impose rational regulations on the robber baron class which would reign in derivatives, venture capitalists because she could see how they were preying on the middle class. When she mentioned that it sent shock waves through those communities including Soros. But Soros had a game plan in place long before that to install his puppet, his Manchurian Candidate who would exploit the race guilty and recriminations which are part of the make up of this culture, and would also appeal to the Harvard types who would see him as one of their own. But form his earliest days of Chicago, Obama has shown zero concern for the welfare of his constituents and has served the interests of the robber barons with neither conscience nor remorse. That is why they love him and why they will move heaven and earth to install him by any means fair or fowl. And the American People will fall for it all over again. Unless . . .

  209. Mormaer
    January 19th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    pm317
    January 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
    Pl. educate me because I don’t know much about birth certificates in this country. What does the Hawaii governor mean by ‘written down’, see the bolded part below?

    If Abercrombie is not talking out of his hat this is extremely bad news for Obama. “Written down” to me means that it is not a hospital, attending physician, or midwife submitted and typed up all formal like state birth record. He is describing it as if it is an informally submitted report scribbled out on a Big Chief tablet in pencil, and not a record submitted for health, census, and legal reasons. The terminology used by Gov Abercrombie is not precise but very suggestive of someone who is figuring out that what he has been told about a legal document is not what actually exists. As explained repeatedly to the press, and the Obots, the birth record submitted by the Obama campaign was an abstract of some kind of record but not a full certificate of live birth. Now the governor is suggesting that a full birth certificate may not even exist, whether by omission or destruction is hard to say.

    ———-
    Wow, this is huge if true…..any more legal eagle opinions here???

  210. Chicago mayoral candidate Carol Moseley Braun on Wednesday called Bill Clinton’s campaign appearance for Rahm Emanuel a “betrayal” of the city’s African-American and Latino communities.

    “For him to come on the day following Dr. Martin Luther King’s birthday to insert himself in the middle of a mayoral race, when the majority of the population and mayoral candidates are African American and Latino, is a betrayal of the people who were most loyal to him,” said Moseley Braun, a former Democratic senator from Illinois, in a statement. “It’s a mistake.”

    “President Bill Clinton does not live or vote in Chicago,” she said, adding a line she’s used in previous statements. “He’s an outsider parachuting in to support another outsider.”

    ………………………..

    Oh and where were all the loyalty when Obama and his ilk in the AA community were labelling Bill and Hillary racists in 2008 primaries. Lol she didnt mind the parachuting in to help her in 98. CMB….fuck you.

  211. Did you all see on Drudge why Obama is scary thin? According to the Enquirer, its because he caught a stomach bug last year in Hawaii! This is so bizarre that I know its a planted story. He probably got a bug in Hawaii, but a stomach bug I doubt, an Aid’s bug is what I think! Now the invented story of Abercrombie coming out with these political speculations. Bullshit, they are trying to find a way to avoid a constitutional crisis and let him either finish his first term or resign….I personally hope he resigns!

    Also did you all see the pics of Hillary, Hu and Obama….he is so jealous of her he can’t stand it. His jaw was clinched tight when Hu gave her a huge hug.
    I hope this national nightmare will be over soon, before our country is lost to the Chinese. The flag business just irritates the hell out of me! Have we already been taken over by the Chinese or what?

  212. So if obama “parachuted” in to help Braun would this be a betrayal of the city’s other communities? Would it be considered reverse racism?

  213. Statements by the new Hawaii governor are so unintelligible that I don’t see that he implies anything. I agree that the phrase ‘written down’ could mean it was a hand written non form certificate, but would any state accept something like that in the 1960’s? Otherwise, he does not really say anything, kinda like O.

  214. Mrs. Smith
    January 18th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    BigCatLover
    January 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    If there are condos in your development already in foreclosure, your best way out, is contacting the bank asking for approval for a short sale.
    *************************
    Sorry I had gone to bed last night just before your comment. I need to see a lawyer to determine what my options are, but my son is adamently opposed to my walking away from this condo, so I’m trying to be sure before I make a decision. The short sales in this community are taking alot longer to process than the foreclosures, but that is just my impression.

  215. confloyd
    You’re not saying he caught aids in Hawaii, are you? That how your comment read to me, so please rephrase if you will.

  216. His poll numbers are still rising !!!! I think he rides the next 2 yrs out, blames republicans for nothing getting done, and campaigns full time. I don’t see any republican standing a chance absent the economy getting worse which is unlikely.

  217. pm317 @ 12:31, the title of that CNN video is interesting to me. “Calorie Counts on Menus Don’t Change Behavior”.

    The reason why it’s interesting is that the subtle argument of the busybody nanny-statists was that they were not trying to force behavior on anyone…… no, they were merely trying to make the public more informed, so they could make their choices with more info.

    Which is a lie. The aim was to actively change behavior, not merely inform. And now that people have demonstrated that no, it isn’t that they are ignorant, or uninformed, or unaware of the fat and calorie contents of foods – the deal is that THEY CHOOSE to eat those things, at least on occasion. So what do the busybodies do now? What is the next step, when a full-grown and free adult public does not seem inclined to take their “advice”? Do they drop the issue, or continue to try to persuade, or do they move on to other methods of changing the diets of the stupid cattle who don’t know what’s best for them?

    I have no problem with encouraging healthy eating habits. But I do have a problem with using the power of the state to force those changes. The power of the State is a serious thing. It is, essentially, FORCE, at the point of a gun. It’s necessary to use it for important things – for laws and penalties and programs that make for a civil and safe and prosperous society. But using the point of the gun to enforce CHEESEBURGERS AND TACOS AS BAD DIETARY CHOICES is an overstep of gargantuan proportions. If you take the position that it’s justified, because the people are making bad choices, then you have just asserted that you are opposed to liberty. Because liberty can’t exist if you eliminate the ability to make bad choices, as well as good ones.

    I’m not anti-govt, or freaked out over big govt. Not at all. There are areas where it NEEDS to be big, and effective, in solving big problems. But I get discouraged with the tendency to always, ever, slide over in micro-managing our lives “for our own good”. MY own good is MY fecking business, and no one else’s. And if the only excuse you have for tyranny is that “my intention is good, to create a better, healthier society”, then that’s not good enough. Govt needs to intervene when the result of NOT intervening would be disastrous. Not just because they have a bright idea to “help” people live the way they think they ought to live. Every despotic govt ever born claimed to be helping the people, and often DID help. It’s just that the “price” for that help was paid later, often years later, in power-mad abuses.

  218. BigCatLover
    January 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    In Hawaii in the 1960’s birth records were made for births that occurred elsewhere. The laws were very different then and why they would accept records of birth outside of their jurisdiction I have not a clue. But this subject has been forbidden to be discussed by all official Democrats and anyone who says anything is to be labeled a idiot and a birther. By even discussing this Abercrombie is crossing the line with the WH. The hysterical screaming that went on about the short abstract that was released by the Obama campaign was beyond anything that I can remember happening about such a mundane thing as a birth record. There was enormous technical misinformation about certificates of live birth spread so fast and so furiously by the press and the campaign that it was obvious that something was very wrong with it. And the vital statistics people in Hawaii just acted weird. Do I think Obama was born in Africa to different parents or some strange thing? No. But there is something severely off that does not agree with his elaborate and much touted biography that he cannot allow to be made public because it makes him an enormous liar which everyone already knows that he is. It is something that gets to the very heart of who he says he is.

  219. Mormaer
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    I agree with everything you said and I think that the subject should be pursued, but I don’t think anything this new governor has said implies that he will help. His words are nonsensical and I don’t know what that means. No one in the WH ‘seems’ to be worried about him that i’ve heard. Have you heard otherwise?

  220. jbstonesfan
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    His poll numbers are still rising !!!! I think he rides the next 2 yrs out, blames republicans for nothing getting done, and campaigns full time. I don’t see any republican standing a chance absent the economy getting worse which is unlikely.
    —————————–
    I agree. If the Republicans are not up for a fight, and if he can keep whatever fight they do muster contained in congress, and if his big media co-conspirators do their assigned task of censoring legitimate feedback and promoting this stick figure, then he is a shoe in. No doubt about it. I don’t know anymore. The American People look like willing lambs being led to the slaughter. It seems there is no way to reach them any longer, their software having been corrupted for most of their lives. At some point it all falls apart, and then the Chinese will feast on our bones.

  221. Unfortunately wbboei that is the likely scenario. The key will be keeping the House and gaining more seats in the Senate.

  222. The focus on what we eat now is a matter of economics as the powers to be see it. These things go in cycles and now the focus is on cutting health care costs by improving everyone’s diets and ignoring other factors like genetics, pollution, chemicals, etc. It’s the easy answer again instead of the intelligent rational approach. When this doesn’t save the US tons of money, it will be another factor that will be emphasized. It’s all about the money and not about informing the citizens.

  223. Mormaer
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    ——————————-
    Unfortunately in this country it is no longer a case of what you know but who you blow. This Ulsterman crap that some of the people in the dimocratic party who once covered up for him on the birth certificate issue are now worried about it and the Republicans have a wiff of it, is part of what convinces me that Ulsterman is a fraud. There is no point dwelling on that issue now. The right people have been paid off and the secret is sealed. Different story however if certain states pass legislation requiring that candidates for President present proof of citizenship. But at that point, the Dimocrats would say it does not apply to incumbents, and the elites would all be happy. I am sorry, but it fully appears to me that this Administration is doing everything it can to eliminate the voice of the American People from the public square, except for those they choose as mascots to parrot the party line.

  224. Conservatives Urge Pence to Aim for the White House
    By Kathy Kiely

    January 16, 2011

    An effort to convince Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., to run for the White House launched Monday on the Internet.

    Pence, a 51-year-old former radio broadcaster who has described himself as “Rush Limbaugh on decaf,” is trying to decide whether to run for governor in his home state next year or enter the GOP presidential primary. Hoping to persuade him to keep his ambitions national, several high-profile fans are forming a committee to kick his presidential campaign into gear.

    “Mike Pence has demonstrated the ability to enthusiastically advance the cause of conservatives and constitutional, limited government and for that reason I am encouraging him to get in the race,” said Jim Ryun, a former Kansas congressman and Olympic runner who is lending his name to the draft-Pence movement.

    Ralph Benko, a former Reagan administration official and conservative Internet strategist who is spearheading the effort, said that Pence “unifies fiscal, social and national security conservatives” within the party. Benko and Ryun have formed the America’s President Committee, organized to make independent expenditures on Pence’s behalf, and set up a website to gather online signatures for their petition drive.

    Pence’s office had no comment.

    The congressman won the Values Voter presidential straw poll last year, but his heavy speaking schedule in Indiana has led to speculation more recently that he would forego a possible challenge to President Obama and run instead to succeed the state’s governor, Mitch Daniels — another Republican being mentioned as a presidential candidate. On Monday, Pence is scheduled to be in Indiana making three public appearances in his district: two Martin Luther King Day speeches and one town hall meeting.

    On the other hand, Pence has continued to burnish his conservative credentials on national issues, introducing legislation to deny funding to Planned Parenthood and delivering an impassioned welcome-to-Congress speech that urged the GOP’s new House majority to “keep our promises” on cutting the budget.

    Pence’s staunch conservatism has sometimes put him at odds with his party leadership. In 2006, he challenged then-Minority Leader John Boehner for the party’s top House job, arguing that Republicans has “lost their way.” Late last year, Pence gave up a position in the House Republican leadership, a move that signaled his desire to run for higher office.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/conservatives-urge-pence-to-aim-for-the-white-house-20110116

  225. i saw Pence on Washington Journal last week and instead of denying that he will run for POTUS, he said his family will make a decision about forming an exploratory committee in the next couple of months. He seems a little pompous to me but I don’t know much about his careet either.

  226. BigCatLover
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    No I have not heard anything but the very fact that Abercrombie would even entertain a question and acknowledge that it is a problem in 2012 to me is astounding. This subject is not to be discussed by Democrats EVER!

    wbboei
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    I agree that a lot of people have been paid off or more probably blackmailed in some way especially since they were complicit in rigging the caucuses and convention for this nonentity to become President of the US. You are also correct in that they will TRY to make the state laws requiring proof of citizenship apply to new office seekers and not incumbents but I am not sure it will fly with the public. New tax laws apply to existing taxpayers not just to the new kids coming on as new federal taxpayers. They may want to think that argument over as it makes O look more and more guilty of lying about something. I think Obama is pathological in this area about his background.

  227. Oh-oh. Pima county sheriff is in trouble with the Pima county attorney’s office because the sheriff is issueing conflicting statements about the Giffords shooting (Fox News). They need to muzzle him.

  228. now the focus is on cutting health care costs by improving everyone’s diets and ignoring other factors like genetics, pollution, chemicals, etc.

    ===============

    Unless you stop short of improving diet by getting away from chemicals in food.

  229. Speaker Boehner Declines Third Straight Obama State Dinner

    Kudos to Boehner for this!
    I wouldn’t even accept shave ice from BO or MO.

  230. Stomach parasites what a load of rubbish….you telling me, the POTUS can’t get treatment for stomach parasites and quickly and like he’s ever gonna be served up food with that.

    Sounds like a cover story to me for something else going on. Cancer?…remember the blue lips. That’ll slim you fast, my best guess would be Emphysema, i think he definitely suffers from that, if nothing else.

    http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/emphysema-2

    * Pursed-lip breathing
    * Pain
    * Cough, productive
    * Weight loss
    * Blue lips

  231. holdthemaccountable
    January 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    &&&&&
    That link to the York piece included another link about CNN’s, ahem, shocking behavior in promoting an environment of violence.

    washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/banning-crosshairs-cnn-used-it-refer-palin-bachmann

    CNN’s John King is attracting a lot of notice — and some ridicule — in the blogosphere for his on-air apology after a guest used the word “crosshairs” during a report on Chicago politics Tuesday. (The guest, a former Chicago reporter, referred to two rivals of mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel, saying Emanuel is “in both of their crosshairs.”) “We were just having a discussion about the Chicago mayoral race,” King told viewers. “My friend Andy Shaw…used the term ‘in the crosshairs’ in talking about the candidates out there. We’re trying, we’re trying to get away from that language. Andy is a good friend, he’s covered politics for a long time, but we’re trying to get away from using that kind of language. We won’t always be perfect, so hold us accountable when we don’t meet your standards.”
    King’s statement comes after widespread discussion of whether Sarah Palin’s now-infamous “crosshairs” map targeting vulnerable Democratic candidates in last November’s elections somehow caused the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson January 8. There has been plenty of that kind of speculation on CNN, including on Tuesday, the day of John King’s statement, when one brief discussion of Palin used the word “crosshairs” five times.
    Now, King says, CNN is “trying to get away” from such terms, suggesting that in the wake of the Tucson shootings, such language should no longer be part of the public conversation. But if Palin is to blame for using crosshairs in her much-discussed map, then CNN, by its own use of the allegedly inflammatory term “crosshairs,” might also share some blame for creating the atmosphere that led to the violence in Arizona. A look at transcripts of CNN programs in the month leading up to the shootings shows that the network was filled with references to “crosshairs” — and once even used the term to suggest the targeting of Palin herself. Some examples:
    “Palin’s moose-hunting episode on her reality show enraged People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and now, she’s square in the crosshairs of big time Hollywood producer, Aaron Sorkin,” reported A.J. Hammer of CNN’s Headline News on December 8.
    “Companies like MasterCard are in the crosshairs for cutting ties with WikiLeaks,” said CNN Kiran Chetry in a December 9 report.
    “Thousands of people living in areas that are in the crosshairs have been told to evacuate,” Chetry said in a December 21 report on flooding in California.
    “He’s in their crosshairs,” said a guest in a December 21 CNN discussion of suspects in a missing-person case.
    “This will be the first time your food will be actually in the crosshairs of the FDA,” business reporter Christine Romans said on December 22.
    “The U.S. commander in the East has Haqqani in his crosshairs,” CNN’s Barbara Starr reported on December 28, referring to an Afghan warlord.
    “We know that health care reform is in the crosshairs again,” CNN’s Joe Johns reported on January 3.
    Seven uses of “crosshairs” in just the month before the Tucson attacks, and just one of them referring to an actual wartime situation. And one reference to Sarah Palin herself as being in “crosshairs.”
    And not just Palin. On September 14, Mark Preston, CNN’s senior political editor, referred to another controversial politician, Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, as being “in the crosshairs.” “Michelle Bachmann is raising lots of money, raising her national profile,” Preston said on September 14. “She is in the crosshairs of Democrats as well.”
    It turns out Preston was back on CNN’s air on Tuesday, discussing Palin’s recent interview on Fox News. “We saw her on Fox News last night where she is a paid contributor,” Preston said. “A kind of a friendly setting, but she defended herself from all the criticism that’s been directed at her regarding a Web site that she had put out where she had used crosshairs over 20 Democratic candidates. Now a lot of people said that her rhetoric is inciting violence. She said that that is not true…”
    “Crosshairs” again. Just for the record, CNN anchors, reporters and guests did absolutely nothing wrong with their use of the word in the last month and before. It would be impossible, at least for any reasonable person, to argue that the network’s use of “crosshairs” in any of the various contexts it was used, was an incitement to violence by anyone, anywhere. But by announcing that “we’re trying to get away” from “crosshairs” and other allegedly incendiary language, CNN is aligning itself with those who blame “rhetoric” for the killings. And by doing that — plus inviting the public to “hold us accountable” — CNN could open itself up to an examination of its own uses of the word and accusations that it helped create an environment that led to violence. Does that make any sense at all?

  232. Wow, Obama states the obvious….can’t believe he actually said that.

    Breaking: Obama Declares that US and China come from Different Cultures………..

  233. AmericanGal
    January 19th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    CNN reporting on the Hillary move to step down in 2012.
    &&&&&&&&

    Good link, worth listing out here:

    Clinton ready to leave State in 2012?
    =================================

    By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

    (CNN) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested Wednesday one term as the nation’s top diplomat just may be enough for her.

    Speaking on NBC’s Today Show, Clinton notably avoided answering directly whether she would be willing to stay in the high-profile position should President Obama win a second term, instead making clear she is looking forward to returning to private life.

    “I am very pleased to be working in this position now, but I’ve said on many occasions I am looking forward to retuning to private life, something I haven’t had the experience of for a long time now,” said Clinton, who has without pause in the last three decades been the first lady of Arkansas, the first lady of the United States, a U.S. senator, a presidential candidate, and now secretary of state.

    “I am proud to serve this president. I think we have made a real difference in restoring American leadership and credibility around the world,” Clinton added. “But I do look forward to having a little more spare time and a few more hours just to take a deep breath.”

    Asked directly if she would consider sticking around for a second Obama term, Clinton said: “That is not something I am in any way committing to or even thinking about.”

    It’s not the first time Clinton has suggested she doesn’t want to remain in her current post beyond four years, telling PBS last year that she “really can’t” see herself in the position for eight years. She’s also said – to the disbelief of many political observers – that she does not see herself running for president again.

    And late last year, Clinton poured cold water on the suggestion, raised by veteran Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward, that she was angling to switch roles with Vice President Biden in a second Obama term.

    “I don’t believe what I read,” Clinton said of Woodward’s claims in October. “I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on.”

    Should Clinton ultimately step down as Secretary of State, it would not be out of the ordinary. The constant travel and stresses of the job have taxed many who have come before her. In fact, the last Secretary of State to last more than one term was George Schultz who served under President Ronald Reagan from 1982 to 1989.

    Meanwhile, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday shows Clinton favorable ratings are high – 66 percent give a thumbs up to the Secretary of State.

  234. #
    moononpluto
    January 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Wow, Obama states the obvious….can’t believe he actually said that.

    Breaking: Obama Declares that US and China come from Different Cultures………..
    —–

    In BO’s head, this probably means something else…like:

    – Damn, this guy actually wants me to stop spending money and asking to borrow more.

    – Damn, my magical bow didn’t make this guy swoon.

    – Damn, I am in deep shit now, what can I say that will make the folks think I am smart and cool when I have no idea what to do next.

    – Somebody get Hillary on the phone while I just make shit up for the press.

  235. I agree that a lot of people have been paid off or more probably blackmailed
    ———————————–
    Yes. I can tell you for a fact that is true: blackmailed. I neglected to mention that not out of misplaced discretion but early Altzheimers.

  236. More smoke and mirrors…

    Big Boeing order from China dates back to 2007

    The big Boeing order from China trumpeted during the state visit to the White House of Chinese President Hu Jintao is actually a re-announcement of previous orders.

    By Dominic Gates
    Seattle Times aerospace reporter

    The announcement of a huge Chinese order for 200 Boeing jets, trumpeted with great fanfare early Wednesday, was merely political window dressing for the state visit to the White House of Chinese President Hu Jintao.

    The deal does not include any new jet orders.

    All of the airplanes in the sale were announced and booked by Boeing as firm orders over the past four years. Chinese airlines had already paid nonrefundable deposits and signed contracts for the jets, most of them as far back as 2007…

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2013975730_chinaorder20.html

  237. Obama to China: don’t pass the buck on currency devaluation to us.
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    Hopium for the masses. Trust me he does not give a flying fuck what happens to the American People. If you believe nothing else believe that. Or perhaps a better way to put it is he cares as much about the American People as he cared about his constituents in Illinois when the sold them down the river to Rezko real estate scams and big insurance as a state legislator and later on to Exleon and General Electric on nuclear power stuff during his brief and uninspiring tenure as a US Senator. So what will happen here? Two things: first, the will open up export markets for big business in China and he will invite Chinese investment in US companies and in US real estate. A couple years ago, I mentioned an executive order which was sitting on his desk reviewed by then White House counsel Craig who was sacrificed on the alter of Guantanamo. That exectutive order was designed to permit massive Chinese immigration to this country, with the proviso that they would bid up the real estate market, work over the internet and not take American jobs. And trust me, the source was someone more reliable than Ulsterman.

  238. Could he play basketball with emphysema?
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    Absolutely. Big media would invent a special set of rules just for him where his fouls are not counted, the scoreboard is rigged like a voting machine, and Reggie Lovehandles is appointed referee. We live in a big media controlled totalitarian state until such time as the people of this country finally wake up–if they ever do.

  239. Oh and where were all the loyalty when Obama and his ilk in the AA community were labelling Bill and Hillary racists in 2008 primaries. Lol she didnt mind the parachuting in to help her in 98. CMB
    _________________________________

    Moon i agree, Carol needs to shut her
    mouth. How soon they forget

  240. Stomach parasites? Is that what it is? Normally parasites prey on hosts. Since when do parasites prey on other parasites? One would think professional courtesy would prevent this sort of thing from happening. The explanation must like elsewhere.

  241. Unfortunately wbboei that is the likely scenario. The key will be keeping the House and gaining more seats in the Senate.
    —————————–
    It is clear to me that the dims are not overly concerned about losing both houses of congress. They are focused on keeping the presidency, and they will spend more on that than on the entire congressional elections in 2012. Why? Because they are hell bent on changing this country not through the democratic process which gives the public a voice in the goal, the process and the end game, but by executive order which freezes the public out. That means they must hold the Presidency, and that the American People must defeat Obama at all cost.

  242. If they do defeat Obama in 2012, the dims will nominate him again in 2016. That much is a given–given the moribund state of the party, and who now controls it. White people need not apply. And for those who sit there and cannot make up their minds, let me suggest that while there is no connection between Sarah’s use of the crosshairs metaphor deployed by hypocritical dims against ripos, there is a direct causal connection between a man who spent 20 years listening to Reverend Wright preach racial hatred toward whites, and a justice department supposedly presided over by that same man that refuses to hold thugs accountable for voter intimidation and violence at voting stations by blacks against whites. Don’t take my word for it. Like Casey Stengel used to say, check it out.

  243. The democrats aren’t concerned about losing both Houses (which they won’t) because their reinforcements have arrived, the Republicans. Republicans are already wasting valuable time huffing and puffing about repealing HC instead of working for the people creating jobs. There aren’t enough votes between both parties to filibuster a HC repeal and Obama has Veto power after all.

    The bottom line is– neither Party is listening to the people because they are one corrupt body of legislators hell bent on destroying the Middle Class and the country we once proudly called America.

  244. Who approved this insult to Israel? Did it go all the way to the top? Was it Obama?

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    Palestinian Flag Flies Over Washington

    January 19, 2011

    Palestinian diplomats unfurled a PLO flag for the first time ever outside their Washington mission office on Tuesday.

    The U.S. granted permission for the symbolic event, which coincides with lobbying efforts aimed at convincing the U.N. to recognize a Palestinian state.

    House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen blasted the move as another Palestinian “scheme” to manipulate public and international opinion.

    “Palestinian leaders reject negotiations, they make excuses, and they seek shortcuts to statehood,” she said.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/palestinian-flag.php

  245. Mrs.Smith,
    You took the words right out of my mouth….now I read they are reviving the abortion debate…if this is not smoke and mirrors I don’t know what is.

    BigCatLover,
    I don’t know what Obama has or where he got it…but he is sick, that I can see! I just hope he resigns, but I doubt it, I think Bush had already signed us over to the Chinese before he left! I imagine this is why Hillary wants out!

  246. Big Cat Lover-

    Walking away from your house and a short sale are not synonymous. Walking away is exactly as it implies. However, the record of delinquency follows you no matter where you go, even to a rental application, because the “walk away” becomes part of your credit history and will show up if the landlord does a credit check. Most of them do because they are looking for reliabile renters.

    A short sale differs because you need the bank’s approval. They are more apt to assist you because you are handling your mortgage responsibly. They may grant you a loan modification, lowering the interest on your loan to something you can live with for the time being.

    Or you can try a bankruptcy lawyer who may get you some relief, saving your home and handling coming to terms with the bank through the bankrupcy court for a loan modification and freezing your condo fees until the economy improves.

    You are not alone Big Cat Lover. Real estate experts are projecting another 15% to 20% devaluation looming for this year in the housing market. Talk of an economic recovery is just that- talk.

    Good Luck-

  247. confloyd
    January 19th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Mrs.Smith,
    You took the words right out of my mouth….now I read they are reviving the abortion debate…if this is not smoke and mirrors I don’t know what is.
    ____________________

    Yes, smoke rings coming out of their keesters. 😉

  248. Considering Obama is another parachuter into Chicago via whereever the hell he came from, they have some cheek.

  249. Gordon Brown presented £10,000 worth of gifts to Barack Obama (in exchange for DVDs)

    Gordon Brown gave Barack Obama $16,500 (£10,000) worth of gifts during a US visit, in return for a selection of DVDs.

    The value of Mr Brown’s gifts, a pen and holder made from the wood of an anti-slavery ship, along with two biographies of Winston Churchill, was disclosed by the US State Department on Tuesday. Mr Obama, by comparison, gave him a boxset of 25 classic US films such as Citizen Kane and ET.

    …………

    How embarrassed do i feel for our country. Obama’s contempt for the British is obvious.

  250. JanH
    January 19th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Who approved this insult to Israel? Did it go all the way to the top? Was it Obama?
    __________________

    The White House lawn Gnomes, Rice and Power. With permission from the blue lipped Kenyan

  251. Just checking to see if my comments will post this time. Every other comment has ended up in moderation.

    Great article, admin.

  252. wbboei

    If they do defeat Obama in 2012, the dims will nominate him again in 2016. That much is a given–given the moribund state of the party, and who now controls it…

    ———–
    Holy smokes wbb, ye have little faith.
    I don’t think American’s will stand for another term of the fraud, too many are pist, no matter who tries to pull the strings.

    Obots in the ‘land of’ don’t even talk about him any longer, no more wearing the Bro t-shirt either.

    The only way I see him winning 2016 is if they fix the voting machines and get better at stuffing the ballot box.

    I predict he is toast, 2012 will NOT be his year for winning.

    I hope to God I am right.

  253. moononpluto
    January 19th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Considering Obama is another parachuter into Chicago

    ===================

    I think I already answered that at January 19th, 2011 at 7:14 pm.

    Must be the time difference.

  254. Let me scream this from the top of the freakin’ mountain for Mrs. S.

    Republicans are already wasting valuable time huffing and puffing about repealing HC instead of working for the people creating jobs.

    Repeal = bull$hit

  255. Mrs. Smith
    January 19th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    thanks for the good wishes on getting out from under my condo. I understand that a short sale is not walking away from the condo, that’s why I mentioned both. The short sales in my area seem to take longer to process, but that may not be my problem but the bank’s. I’m not underwater yet, but will lose every penny of my down payment, even if I sell it on the housing market. I already have an offer to refinance but interest rate reduction is only 1/2%. Like I said, I need to see a lawyer and learn the details of my options.

  256. Agreed, if Teh One fails now, he’ll be in the 25 cent record bin.

    No one will admit that they even have him in their collection.

    No way he could pull a Grover Cleveland (22nd and 24th president).

    He’s already an embarrassment only halfway through his only term.

  257. As far as who can win the Presidency in 2012 or 2016, don’t forget that the Supreme Court already appointed one president, so we the voters may already be moot.

  258. Holy smokes wbb, ye have little faith.
    ————————————–
    No shadow. You give me more credit than I deserve. I have just about no faith in the process. Why? Because it is rigged. Ergo, the political system must crash before it can be resurrected. There is that line by Matthew Arnold which goes like this: caught between two worlds–one dead, the other powerless to be born. The democratic party that represented the people of this country is officially dead. An unholy alliance between Wall Street, Chicago and a dead murder who if there is a god is burning in the fires of hell as we speak killed it. Yes, it was his second murder at least that we know of. The gravitational forces in the political system, the wind sheer is in two opposing directions–one of them toward global consolidation of our institutions and the creation of a new society of elites, bureaucrats and the disenfranchised masses. The other force is in the opposite direction, which represents sovereignty, the constitution, the bill of rights and all those charming old ideas which constrain the ambitions and profits of the amoral elites. Lord Moncton among others is very good on this. Both parties are straining to contain those forces, but it is a totally lost cause in the democratic party both today and as far as I care to look ahead. There is not tea party movement to keep them honest and they are now controlled by the practical equivalent of Barbary pirates. The puss pocket of evil in all this, however, is big media. They are the marketing arm of a thoroughly corrupt party, which has ceased to represent the American People. By year end, and maybe even after his ghostwritten state of the union speech which I will never watch, more people will see the handwriting on the wall, and get a clue on how he intends to eliminate social security. The Republicans are the same, but they do not hate America the way Barack and his entourage do. It is evident in his statements and his bio. His influence permeates and controls the democratic party, and no one dares defy him. Given a choice between their constituents and him they will always choose him. It is a slow moving train wreck which most people will not see until it is too late. So as you see when you give me little credit for believing it will all work out, you are being far too generous.

  259. If the Saudis gave Obama three hundred thousand in gifts they bought him very cheap. Think of what 30 pieces of silver would be worth today. with all interest accrued in the past 2000 years.

  260. “I need to see a lawyer and learn the details of my options.’
    _____________________

    Those are the options, BCL- In a former life, banking and finace was my business.

  261. Today I saw a new bumper sticker with a picture of Jesus morphing into Obama. First time I have seen that one. Maybe you have seen it before. Young people were driving the car. I wonder how they will are faring today with massive student loans and no jobs. When the masses are hungry they protest by burning down a bread factory. And so it was here.

  262. Condi Rice is on Piers Morgan denying again and again that she will run for public office so If anyone was holding out hope she will run for prez, she says no way.

  263. Mrs. Smith
    I believe you. To be honest I don’t want to think about it now, but will have to because I only bought this place as a stopgap until I could find a house after my previous condo sold and I had to move. Unfortunately, I got caught in the housing collapse.

  264. I am not so generous wbb, I just believe that Obama and his followers are near the end of their rein. I do believe that the American voters will continue to rise up against him and by one way or another will not cower to ‘government’ control. I do want Hillary’s Universal Health Care, I do want everyone to pay their fair share, but all this bs from both sides, yes, from the Rethugs too is going to be reflected in the future elections.

    As it turns out, I guess I have more faith in the American voter than I have in the politicians of either party.

    Look at the last election, tossed out Dems in the House…some balance of power is restored in the two chambers…

    They are all on probation, and so is BO.

  265. BigCatLover
    January 19th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I hear you, BCL- alot of people did. They’re forecasting more foreclosures this year than
    the million in 2010. Don’t wait too long, though. You are always better off taking the bull by the horns while you still have leverage, than dealing from weakness behind the 8 ball.

  266. This is a repudiation of Leslie Gelb who is a former NYT writer who was pushing this idea as a way to shore up his hero Obama. He got everybody in Washington talking about it and now it is just another rumor. Question: did Hillary ever say she was committed to serving Obama?? for at least one term, as this AP diatribe asserts, or did she say she was committed to serving the country as SOS. That is more than a mere turn of words, and I strongly suspect that that corrupt wire service has purposely put words in her mouth.
    ————————————–

    Clinton says she’s not jockeying for defense post

    WASHINGTON — Secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton is seeking to tamp down speculation that she’s in line to move to the Pentagon as secretary of defense.

    Clinton tells CBS’s “The Early Show” that she respects and admires Secretary Robert Gates and hopes he stays in the job a long time. There have been reports that Gates may step down. Clinton said, “As far as I know, these are just rumors. I’m happy to stay where I am.”

    Clinton says she committed herself to serving President Barack Obama for at least one term, but says there’s no such promise if he’s re-elected. She also repeated recent assertions she’s not any longer interested in elective office.
    Clinton lost to Obama in a hard-fought fight for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination in 2008.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/19/2022911/clinton-says-shes-not-jockeying.html#ixzz1BXamn7Xr

  267. Young people were driving the car. I wonder how they will are faring today with massive student loans and no jobs.

    ———
    They are getting the picture, many are now aware that he is just another politician that lies. Many are very depressed. Hope is dead right now.

    I work and see them every day…

  268. Mrs. Smith
    My dilemma is that with no down payment, I end up in an apartment. I’ve always owned my own place so that will be an adjustment for me. Too old to start over and save again for a house.

  269. A wise decision by Boehner to boycott the White House dinner with the Chinese Premier. If he were to attend it might leave the Chinese with the mistaken impression that Congress supports the limp dick of Obama. I expect that he will meet with him later in the week and at that time he will have the premiers undivided attention and can say what he wants without interference.

  270. BigCat, my 2 cents is to keep the condo if you live in it. The only time you have to worry about it’s value is if you sell it.

    If you sell it and have a profit, think of the taxes you have to pay on it.

    Living in an apartment has a lot of down sides to it, rent increases, no way to make your own improvements, etc.

    In the long run, real estate is safer than putting your money anywhere else.

    I live in an apartment, no money to buy a home, own a piece of land where the taxes are eating me alive, but I plan to wait it out and not sell at a huge loss. (Long story…)

  271. Shadowfax
    Yeah I would just do that if my fees weren’t so bleeping high here. The Board decided to begin a huge new improvement program right after i moved in (new roofs, doors, windows, wtx.), then the market fell apart. Now our fees are high to cover the units that have foreclosed. I live in a nice area, good location, but my condo needs some updating. Which means it’s hard to sell but it’s expensive to keep. This year several units did sell, but not for much money. As Mrs. Smith says, market is supposed to get worse this year. I’m not usually this indecisive, but I really don’t seem to have any good options.

  272. Did you see Greta’s headline over the chinese president and Obama’s news conference photo -‘Hu’s the Boss?’

  273. BigCatLover
    January 19th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Shadowfax
    Yeah I would just do that if my fees weren’t so bleeping high here. The Board decided to begin a huge new improvement program right after i moved in (new roofs, doors, windows, wtx.), then the market fell apart. Now our fees are high to cover the units that have foreclosed. I live in a nice area, good location, but my condo needs some updating. Which means it’s hard to sell but it’s expensive to keep. This year several units did sell, but not for much money. As Mrs. Smith says, market is supposed to get worse this year. I’m not usually this indecisive, but I really don’t seem to have any good options.
    ———

    Would you be able to live somewhere else, as safe, as nice…at a much cheaper cost? Or…are you running in the red?

    If it would cause you to go into the red, then you should check your options, maybe getting advice from a lawyer that deals with condos would let you know if you have rights against sharing the burden for other’s foreclosures in your complex.

    I would think if they are trying to get owners to share the loss by increasing fees, that will be reflected in high fees for anyone that wants to buy a condo there.

    Are the folks that own the land and outside of the condos trying to make a killing by taking advantage of the economy?

  274. ’Hu’s the Boss?’
    __________________

    That was hilarious- Imagine his thoughts when he saw the PLO flag flying over the Palistinian mission office. Hu: “The US is going to hell in a handbasket”-

  275. Shadowfax
    Just an overly ambitious Board (alot of young lawyers) who refuse to deal with reality – that people are leaving in droves. Of course the high fees make it that much harder to sell unless the prices are really low. I’m right on the edge, making my bills each month but none left over for security or for making improvements to sell the condo. The units that were updated have sold but the owners lost money. If the board would back off the fees for awhile, it would ease the burden for the owners, but I haven’t seen any indication that they understand that.

  276. Big Cat, owners are young lawyers…yikes, that’s not good for you.
    (Sorry Big Pink lawyers)

    I did a google on your situation and there are a boat load of folks in this situation in other states. Maybe reading around you might hear of something helpful.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=condo+fees+increased+to+cover+foreclosures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=V06&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&&sa=X&ei=4rA3TZGqDY6CsQPdqeDMAw&ved=0CCkQBSgA&q=condo+fees+increase+to+cover+foreclosures&spell=1&fp=8ce0e008a607e93d

    I don’t think the economy will improve this year, then again, I never expected it to go into the toilet so quickly either.

    Condo fees are the real drawback, like a blank check…that’s why I never went down that road.

    Sorry BigCat, just know you are not alone.

  277. BigCatLover,

    I hope you decide to hang in and keep your house. I am on my third home with a new mortgage. At 55 years of age it is a daunting challenge, but between both homes I rented for many years. Through away so much money for rent and utilities with nothing to show for it. Rents kept going up as did utilities until I finally decided to take the plunge again.

    Your home will go up in value again if you are willing to wait. Sell when the value is back to what you can live with and listen to Mrs. Smith’s advice. As a retirement investment, real estate can’t be beat.

  278. Shadowfax
    January 19th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Run for president of the condo assn and change all the rules. Gee, sounds like the good ole US of A… hmmm

  279. “As a retirement investment, real estate can’t be beat.”
    __________________

    agreed, JanH-

    It’s a test of survival skill. The banks are buying up real easte on the cheap (foreclosures) and are holding on to the properties increasing the net worth in their asset portfolios. Not that log ago, you could pick up a pt job for xtra money riding out a stale economy.. now you have to be creative.. taking in a temp renter or renting the entire property out and moving in with a relative temporarily. You’ve got to tailor the solution that is best for the situation that least upsets your reality.

    It’s a painful and scary subject for discussion but it has to be dealt with as decisively and as quickly as possible. You snooze, you lose, is about it in a nutshell.

  280. Yes Mrs. S. sounds like some condo management are trying to make the owners that are paying their bills eat the losses of foreclosures. A bunch of lawyers in that position puts the condo owners in a worse position.

    I once thought of buying into a condo deal, read up on it and found many of the low costing condos were in older buildings that would need repairs soon, or had no saved money for future repairs, meaning the HO fees would go up when a problem came up. I found that possible situation worse than worrying that my apartment rent might go up. Just like buying a fixer upper home and running out of money to complete the repairs.

    I agree, real estate is more stable in the long run, if you live there and can cover the payments. All the mortgage loans with no money down and interest only payments were like a ticking time bomb.

    The bomb went off and now everyone is paying for it dearly.

  281. Did you see Greta’s headline over the chinese president and Obama’s news conference photo -’Hu’s the Boss?
    ———————————–
    Correction: Hu is the owner and Obama is the well dressed and obsequious butler. The sign in the galley says no tipping allowed, but Obama will always make an exception for campaign contributions. The rejection of the Clintons by many blacks is a naturally occurring phenomenon. A friend of mine owned an art gallery in the same town where H4T resides, she was married to a Mexican lawyer, they have wonderful children and she was a big promoter of Hispanic art and artists, and was friends with their famous mayor also a Hispanic. Then one day a Hispanic opened an art gallery and over time she stopped getting invited to parties and her business dried up. She is a very polite and ingratiating person and does not play power games that might alienate people. Therefore the fault did not lie with her but with the larger phenomenon of love of the in group and hatred of the out group which explains the totality of history. Unfortunately, the line of demarcation was not good works or merit, but racial identification. You could say this is defensible when a repressed minority gains electoral power. The problem with that argument is that in the case of Obama he is an elitist with nothing in common with his most ardent supporters except for a partial genetic match. And when their ship does not come in it will be sad for them.

  282. I live in an apartment, no money to buy a home, own a piece of land where the taxes are eating me alive

    ==============

    Depending on where your land is and what the regulations are (and whether enforced), you might look into living for a while in a comfortable travel trailer on your land. When you got ready to sell, you could move the trailer or sell it separately or together with the land.

  283. I live in an apartment, no money to buy a home, own a piece of land where the taxes are eating me alive

    ==============

    Depending on where your land is and what the regulations are (and whether enforced), you might look into living for a while in a comfortable travel trailer on your land. When you got ready to sell, you could move the trailer or sell it separately or together with the land.

  284. I live in an apartment, no money to buy a home, own a piece of land where the taxes are eating me alive

    ==============

    Depending on where your land is and what the regulations are (and whether enforced), you might look into living for a while in a comfortable travel trailer on your land. When you got ready to sell, you could move the trailer or sell it separately or together with the land.

  285. Did you see the silly slogan on the google web page? It is a picture of Kennedy with the words unite the country. Very stupid. You do not unite the country with slogans unless you are a dictator. You unite the country by governing in a responsible manner that respects the traditions of this nation and does not subject us on a daily basis to what Marcus Tullius Cicero aptly described as the arrogance of officialdom. You unite the country by not taking away from people what they have earned, and destroying the entitlement programs they have come to rely on, or sending jobs to China or all the other things this administation has perpetrated for the sake of his donors. In sum you unite the country by doing the reverse of what Obama has done since coming into office. To throw it out there without the tangible proof smacks of Orwell–the collect whose service is perfect freedom.

  286. Does unity mean? Are we to forgive them forcutting a sweetheart deal with drug companies which screwed seniors? For denying them access to affordable drugs? For cutting Medicaid by $500 billion? For giving phony assumptions to CBO to prove it was cost neutral? For failing to tell us the truth that premiums would go up drastically because of it? For failing to read the bill before passsage? By telling us they would have to pass it before anyone could know what was in it. If so, then I say fuck them and their unity pony. Unity is not a slogan. It is in the mind and the heart. It based on a bond between the American People and their government which Obama does not respect. The idea that governments were instituted among men to protect liberty rather than to destroy it and reward the few at the expense of the many. Unity is trust, whereas here there is only suspicion. Unity–is like hope and change–don’t ask too many questions just march with the ignorant herd. Not me.

  287. Larry at No Quarter posted this video on Paul Ryan. He is smart and honest, which means he is a threat to establishment. Here is a good primer on Encron accounting and Obama double talk. Contrary to their assertions this bill blows a hole in the deficit. And it produces unintended consequences of forcing employers to dump employee insurance. Will the American People wake up? This is Obamacare. Billed by big media as the greatest civil rights victory since the 1964 civil rights act? How about the biggest legislative mistake since the hated Alien and Sedition Act of 1798? Not for bots or the faint of heart:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8gF7inYaM&feature=player_embedded

  288. jeswezy

    However, there are times and places where a government takeover of some of the controls is salutory. One such time was the takeover of GM. Now GM is in the black again and the government can begin selling off its shares.
    **************

    i don’t think so jeswezy…

    STEPHEN SPRUIELL

    AUGUST 26, 2010 4:00 A.M.

    No, the GM Bailout Hasn’t Succeeded
    Look at the books.

    The economy has not been cooperating with the Democrats’ “recovery summer”: Unemployment remains stubbornly high; new and existing home sales indicate that housing prices have still farther to fall from their pre-bubble highs; the Dow is struggling to stay above 10,000; and a host of other economic indicators point toward continued weak growth, if not an outright double-dip. Searching for bright spots, the Obama administration has seized upon the resurgent U.S. auto industry, and specifically on the bailed-out GM — which has posted its first profitable quarters since 2004 and looks set to relaunch itself as a public company this fall, just in time for the elections.

    But if we have learned anything from the stimulus, it is that a few quarters of success attributable to government policy do not mean that the policy was successful. Home sales took off last April as the expiration of the New Homebuyers Tax Credit neared, only to plummet this summer when it became clear that the policy had merely pulled demand forward instead of stimulating new demand. The same thing happened with Cash for Clunkers, to a lesser extent: A brief bump in sales of cars and light trucks was followed by a steep drop. Sales have since gone up slightly, but the latest forecasts predict weaker demand for autos to go with weaker demand for housing and continuing high unemployment.

    That’s a problem for GM: As part of its government-financed bankruptcy, it has indeed done an admirable job of cutting costs, and this is the primary reason the company is back in the black. Can it stay that way in an environment of falling sales and declining market share? Then there are GM’s pension obligations. In the Financial Times, Tony Jackson recently pointed out that the company is forecasting returns on its pension investments of around 8.5 percent a year. That’s pretty optimistic in the current environment of wildly fluctuating stocks and low interest rates on fixed-income securities. Jackson thinks a more realistic calculation would leave GM’s pension with an annual shortfall of around $7 billion, which might dampen investors’ appetite when the company’s IPO rolls around.
    The success of that IPO is crucial to determining whether the bailout of GM can be said to have succeeded (which is a separate question from whether the government was right to bail out the company at all). Much of the taxpayers’ “investment” in GM is held in the form of preferred stock. According to the government’s own estimates, GM’s market capitalization would have to reach $67 billion for taxpayers to break even. At its peak, in 2000, GM’s market cap was $57 billion. One GAO report concluded that “Treasury’s own analysis suggests that the circumstances necessary for the companies to reach market capitalizations high enough for Treasury to fully recover its equity investments are unlikely.”

    Amid misleading claims that GM has paid back all of its bailout money, it is important to keep in mind just how much government support the automakers received: Out of $50.7 billion in loans to GM, only $7 billion, or 13.8 percent, has been repaid. (If you believed GM’s claim that it paid back its loans to the government in full, with interest and ahead of schedule, can you loan me some money?) Chrysler got $10.7 billion, of which it has repaid $2 billion. And let’s not forget about GMAC (now Ally Bank), GM’s financing arm, which received $16.2 billion and has yet to repay any of it. GM rid itself of GMAC’s problems by spinning it off shortly before declaring bankruptcy, but the money loaned to GMAC should count toward GM’s bailout: If it hadn’t been necessary to keep financing available to GM customers, GMAC probably would have been allowed to fail.

    The bottom line is that GM and Chrysler still owe the government a great deal of money, and it is far from clear that they will be able to repay it all. As long as the prospect of large losses for taxpayers loom in the distance, it is impossible to say that the jobs saved didn’t come at the expense of other jobs. Even if all the money is paid back, it is hard to predict what consequences will follow from such an unprecedented bailout. The automakers have had a good couple of quarters; if the Democrats are lucky, they’ll have a couple more. But we are a long way from being able to say that the bailout “worked,” much less that we wouldn’t have been better off letting GM and Chrysler reorganize in bankruptcy without our help.

    – Stephen Spruiell is an NRO staff reporter.

    editor’s note: This article has been amended since its original posting

    **********
    RealClearMarkets – The GM Bailout Was a Total and Complete Failure

    Apr 22, 2010 … The GM Bailout Was a Total and Complete Failure. Mish’s Global Analysis, Mish’s Global Economic Trend Analysis. Send to a Friend …
    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/…/the_gm_bailout_was_a_total_and_complete_failure_100680.html – Cached

  289. Nothings changed, Obama is not moving minds.

    Washington (CNN) – As President Barack Obama marks two years in office, a new national poll indicates that Americans are divided over whether his presidency has so far been a success or failure.

    According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, 45 percent say the first two years of the Obama administration have been a success, with 48 percent describing it as a failure. The poll’s Thursday release comes on the second anniversary of the inauguration of Obama as president.

    “The generation gap that surfaced in the 2008 election persists two years later,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Most people who are 50 or older say that Obama has been a failure in office; a plurality of younger Americans think his administration has been a success.”

    Last year, on Obama’s first anniversary in the White House, CNN polling indicated the public was also split, with 47 percent saying the Obama presidency was a success and 48 percent terming it a failure.

    The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted Jan. 14-16, with 1,014 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey’s overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

  290. moononpluto, but but but Matt Lauer was just telling me this morning that Obama’s approval rating went up like 12 points and Matt would never lie to me. Also Andrea Mitchell said MO’s red gown was sooo beautiful and my eyesight must be really bad because I thought she looked like she was wearing a slept-in remake of one of Marie Antoinette’s discards.

    (ok, normally I try not to criticize MO personally, and if she has no fashion sense it isn’t a crime, but I just can’t abide people who pretend that whatever hideous thing she is wearing is so fabulous. It just so isn’t.)

  291. That reminds me — I wonder if Comcast buying NBC will have any effect on their spin or will they just be even more obotish than they are now?

  292. JanH
    January 19th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    China is the main bank for America’s debts. Hence the royal treatment.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    HU’S THE BOSS?

  293. NPR coverage of yesterdays press conference mentioned Obama’s touting of all the trade that will pour forth to help alleviate the trade imbalance, but that big chunk of the numbers Obama threw out were from a years old deal (Boeing?) that is already in the works.

    Obama might as well tout “jobs created” to include the Works Progress Administration and the TVA.

  294. Shadowfax
    January 19th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
    Big Cat, owners are young lawyers…yikes, that’s not good for you.
    (Sorry Big Pink lawyers)

    I did a google on your situation and there are a boat load of folks in this situation in other states. Maybe reading around you might hear of something helpful.
    ***********************
    Yikes Shadowfax, all those google headlines are right on the mark as to what is happening in my condo complex. In case everyone thinks I’m really dim for buying a condo when I did, let me reassure you that I was looking for a modest ranch house to retire to but couldn’t find one. I needed to get out of my previous sold condo and only bought this one after talking to the Board president twice and several of the other homeowners. They all assured me that this was a quiet little complex and the Board was planning a modest fee increase to do some improvements like tree removal and bush trimming. I also paid $10,000 less than the listing price for the unit. I planned to make minor updates and move on. 2 months after I moved in, there was a major leak in one of the roofs and the board doubled the fees to replace all the roofs and then the market fell apart. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I blame the condo manager for talking the board into spending lots of money on improvements that were not really needed, but very trendy. The more goods and services the manager can sell the board, the more he and his management company make on kickbacks. The Board has spent more than $20,000 on tree removal and trimming in the 4 years that I’ve been here. None of that was necessary. As far as running for the Board, they do not hold secret ballot elections but instead take a hand vote in front of the Board members at the annual meeting. They make it very hard to replace any of them (they are lawyers). Therefore, most owners are just leaving and taking their losses. I keep hoping that some of the young lawyer board members will just move on to bigger and better houses, but instead they buy Mercedes and BMW’s and stay on the board because all college grads now are taught they are ‘leaders’ so they must be in charge. On the plus side it’s a perfectly nice condo in a very good area, just too expensive with the high fees that will not be going away soon if ever. I’ll be making a decision in early spring whether to sit tight or do a short sale and lose my large down payment.

  295. BigCatLover
    January 19th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    As far as who can win the Presidency in 2012 or 2016, don’t forget that the Supreme Court already appointed one president, so we the voters may already be moot.
    &&&&&&&&

    Democracy is “messy”.

    Obama should be appointed King of America for life!

  296. I’m a little puzzled by those Hillary supporters who seem to think that the Republicans will be so much better for the middle class than the Obama admin. History says not. At least they are a check on the dem’s power but I’m not expecting a whole lot more from them. Any of them.

  297. Today’s presidential tracking at Rasmussen: … giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -7 (see trends).
    Those numbers reflect the best ratings for the president since early April 2010, nine months ago.

  298. pm317
    January 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
    would you look at this pic?
    **********************
    funny picture. I suppose if photogs are constantly taking your picture, there are bound to be some funky shots like this one, but I’d love to know what HU was saying when that was taken.

  299. BigCatLover, it looks more like they are both listening to something that is being said.
    {I forgot to say in my last comment, my dress looks fabulous in my picture 🙂 )

  300. pm317
    Well, that’s the important thing and I’m sure everyone will be admiring your dress and not even notice the look on your face. LOL

  301. The sooner we all in unison grasp the thought, and more importantly maintain it, Republicans are in bed with Obama and the Obamacrats, the clearer everyone’s thinking will be. It’s every man for themselves these days and if you think ANY politician/s is/are going to be effective going against the party line, show us where he has signed a promise to commit political suicide to save us?

  302. Thursday, Jan. 20, 2011

    Hillary’s Next Step: More Diplomacy or Defense?

    By Joe Klein

    The most daunting piece of real estate in modern American politics is any podium right after Bill Clinton has relinquished it. The guy is on fire these days, freed from the constraints of elective office and the shackles of the prepared text. And so no one who attended the memorial service for master diplomat Richard Holbrooke envied the lot of Hillary Clinton, who had to follow her husband to the podium and conclude a program that Holbrooke — a fervent connoisseur of speechifying, especially about himself — would have loved. She had to do this jet-lagged out of her skull, having just returned from an intense six-day swirl through the Middle East, and after delivering a monster speech about China that morning at the State Department.

    She more than held her own, if a bit more formally than her husband; she is, after all, the nation’s highest ranking diplomat these days. But she was a stalwart friend and defender of Holbrooke’s, and she communicated her appreciation elegantly. She was also extremely funny — an underused weapon in her arsenal — describing the infamous Holbrookian persistence: “He would follow me onto a stage as I was about to give a speech, or into my hotel room, or on at least one occasion, into a ladies’ room in Pakistan.”

    All of which started me thinking once more about Hillary Clinton’s character and career trajectory. She is one of those politicians you can actually watch grow in office. She begins each new assignment quietly, studying the territory, making a few mistakes along the way, but then she gradually gains control of her portfolio and masters it. This was true of her stint on the Senate Armed Services Committee: the most forbidding panjandrums of the uniformed military came to respect her expertise, especially David Petraeus, a particular favorite of hers. It was also true of her presidential campaign, in which she started off stiff and wound up kicking back whiskey shots in steelworker taverns, a woman of the people.

    And it’s certainly true now, as Secretary of State. She began the assignment with some well-acknowledged skills. After her globe-trotting years as First Lady, she knew how to be an effective public diplomat. But she still had a lot to learn about diplomatic strategy and negotiation. She made mistakes and still does on occasion. (Her Middle East trip was marred by her statement that Jared Lee Loughner was “an extremist.”) But her confidence has grown, and her public statements are sharper. Indeed, she has — belatedly — emerged as the Obama Administration’s leading voice on human rights. During the week that ended with the Holbrooke memorial, she told the leaders of the Middle East that their countries were “sinking into the sand” by not moving toward democratic reforms (a timely message given the upheaval in Tunisia). And then, in a particularly gutsy moment, she lamented, “The longer China represses freedom … the longer that Nobel Prize winners’ empty chairs in Oslo will remain a symbol of a great nation’s unrealized potential.” (She was referring to China’s refusal to allow the imprisoned Liu Xiaobo to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.)

    There is talk now that Clinton’s next step will be to slide over to the Pentagon and replace Robert Gates, who is expected to resign as Secretary of Defense later this year. It would, in some ways, be a natural progression for her. It would be another first — the first woman SecDef. It would be an extremely valuable credential if she chooses to run for President in 2016. She certainly has the respect of the military and knowledge of the issues.

    I think it would be a bad move, though, for two reasons. The first is that the Secretary of Defense is going to have a lousy, nuts-and-bolts job over the next few years, very much caught up in budget cuts and fighting the military-industrial-congressional complex. There are other candidates better suited to do this. John Hamre, a former deputy secretary, knows the Pentagon’s innards as well as anyone. CIA Director Leon Panetta may be best suited of all, with his real-time knowledge of our national-security problems and his history as a fervent budget cutter in Congress and as Bill Clinton’s budget director.

    But there is a more important reason Clinton should stay at State. “Diplomacy saves lives,” Bill Clinton said in his eulogy. “In the end, what matters [about Holbrooke] is that there are a lot of people walking around on the face of the earth” because of his diplomatic triumphs. Hillary Clinton’s stature lends gravitas to the work of diplomacy, an art that was denigrated during Bush the Younger’s first term and remains sorely undervalued now. As the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq wind down, as relationships from China to Pakistan to Iran fester, this is the moment for diplomacy to be restored to center stage, as senior partner to our military might. That was Holbrooke’s obsession. It should be her legacy.

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2043290,00.html

  303. What a wonderful speech…

    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON SPEAKS AT THE RICHARD HOLBROOKE MEMORIAL SERVICE ON JANUARY 14th

  304. “Over the past two years, as U.S. unemployment remained near double-digit levels and the economy shed jobs in the wake of the financial crisis, over a million foreign-born arrivals to America found work, many illegally.”

    ————–
    Of course obama and his buds never knew this was going on.

    A few more of these bombshells and his ratings will tank all over again.

  305. RE an earlier comment re Gillibrand.

    She is so pro illegal immigration that she deoes not even acknowledge illegal status. She will never have my support.

  306. holdthemaccountable
    January 20th, 2011 at 10:01 am
    Today’s presidential tracking at Rasmussen: … giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -7 (see trends).
    &&&&&&&&&

    Meanwhile, WSJ / NBC poll shows positive movement for Zerobama.

    But wait; first clue is NBC.

    And, are they still “adjusting” numbers to skew toward Dems? People who call themselved “Democrats” has declined, while Repubs have increased, and even moreso, Independents are the biggest block and growing.

  307. MR. POPULAR?

    Here’s the WSJ/NBC link, with a few quotes worth highlighting (and my $$$ comments):

    “President Barack Obama is riding a surge of public support into next week’s State of the Union address, with more Americans approving of his performance and more seeing him as a political moderate.”

    “Surges in presidential popularity are common after a galvanizing national tragedy.”

    “The poll was conducted days after a shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz., in which six people died and 14 were injured.”

    $$$ and conducted after endless media fawning about him being such a uniter after media hit men already did their dirty work.

    “A senior administration official said Mr. Obama is now well-positioned to win the public to his side if Republicans in Congress adopt hard-line stances on health care and spending to please their conservative base.”

    “Eduardo D. Sepulveda, a retired 65-year-old independent who lives northwest of San Antonio, Texas, said he disapproves of the way the president—for whom he voted in 2008—is handling the economy, but he still has ‘faith in him’.”

    $$$ “I think he’s screwing up, but I’d still have a beer with him”.

    “A self-described liberal, Mr. Grech said he was unhappy with Mr. Obama’s job performance.”

    “His approval ratings have jumped into positive territory in the Midwest, a good sign for him after the drubbing Democrats sustained there in November. But he still trails among white men, especially those over 50, and with voters in the south and in rural America.”

    $$$ Donna Brazile will advise him to not worry about those kinds of voters.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704590704576092273958557698.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

  308. jbstonesfan
    January 20th, 2011 at 10:44 am
    Obama bouncing back
    &&&&

    That’s a link from MSNBC.

    Would they ever report anything bad??

    When Obama’s numbers were heading south, didn’t they spin it with excuse-making?

  309. “Grab a cocktail before you read this”

    —————
    I don’t think one would be enough. I’m not saying another word or I will probably be deleted.

  310. Two years down two more to go. Where’s that cocktail? Make mine a margarita.
    One tequila, Two tequila, Three tequila … Floor!

  311. Don’t shoot the messenger…

    Will Hillary run?

    By Bernie Quigley – 01/20/11

    The Obama presidency could easily be seen as a trick put together by Oprah, with an assist from Caroline Kennedy, who turned the tide overnight on Hillary Clinton the day after The New York Times endorsed her in her run for president in 2008. Looked like a done deal, as it did ever since Life magazine picked up on her speech in college 40 years ago and declared hers the face of a new generation. But the next day Caroline placed her own op-ed in the Times endorsing Barack Obama. Political history pivoted on that morning. That day, Uncle Teddy saw the distinct possibility of Obama, whom American knew then only as a politically inexperienced black man from Chicago, being president, because America responded to Caroline Kennedy. It was the definitive moment: Kennedy kung fu was stronger than Clinton kung fu.

    Was said then by Jules Feiffer, in an excellent political cartoon, and by others, that the great thing about Barack Obama was he was not Hillary Clinton. But we saw perfect mastery of the image when Oprah — when they call you by one name you have become a kind of god — got Caroline and Maria Shriver to schmooze together with her on TV in opposition to the Super Bowl: the Three Sisters together, in opposition to Hillary (the dark yin, like Yoko to John, like Madame to Mao), and they took it from her, the Three Sisters, that which her husband had promised he could deliver to her ever since she flunked her law boards and went to him instead. Pictures of Bill seething with the clicker in his hand watching the football game that day with Bill Richardson tell the whole story.

    Now, just this past month, Obama has taken it from Hillary a second time. His approval will rise now, and it has been rising since last month. Since he ditched the left and moved to the middle. The middle which Hillary had already marked as her own, leaving Obama to the dweeb-fest that is the marginal left in the press and in the House and Senate.

    But Obama is by no means a marginal player like Barney Frank or Keith Olbermann or Paul Krugman; he is, as Malcolm X said of Jack Kennedy, whom he is so said to resemble, an original Trickster. What moral basis could one possibly have in moving from a far-left agenda to the middle overnight? The morality of coyote, the trickster, who makes things happen in spite of what people want, starting the dance all over again by himself. During the campaign he was said to carry in his pocket a little effigy of a monkey; like Hanuman, the monkey god who, in Hindu lore, is said to be the creator of the realm.

    But Hillary created the world; actually Bill, but Hillary helped. Ask them.

    Would the Clintons let this stand? Taken once by Caroline and Oprah? Taken again by Obama and his darkwing Chicago thugs? Why would they? Did they ever?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/139097-will-hillary-run

  312. SLEEVELESS ONE FORGING SOME KIND OF BUSINESS RELATION W/ WALMART, IN THE NAME OF HEALTHY EATING

    nytimes.com/2011/01/20/business/20walmart.html?src=busln

    Select paragraphs include:

    The initiative came out of discussions the company has been having with Michelle Obama, the first lady, who will attend the announcement in Washington and has made healthy eating and reducing childhood obesity the centerpiece of her agenda. Aides say it is the first time Mrs. Obama has thrown her support behind the work of a single company.

    But Wal-Mart is pushing only so far. The company’s proposed sugar reductions are “much less aggressive” than they could be, Mr. Jacobson said, noting that Wal-Mart is not proposing to tackle the problem of added sugars in soft drinks, which experts regard as a major contributor to childhood obesity. And he said it would be “nice if Wal-Mart’s timeline were speedier” than five years.

    Wal-Mart has been planning the initiative for more than a year; the effort was in its early stages when Ms. Obama joined it. The first lady’s appearance with Mr. Dach and other Wal-Mart executives when they make the announcement at a community center in Washington’s Anacostia neighborhood on Thursday morning is out of the ordinary and a prominent effort by the administration to spur further moves toward healthier food.

    “We’re not just aligning ourselves with one company; we’re aligning ourselves with people who are stepping up as leaders to take this country to a healthier place,” said Sam Kass, the White House chef who doubles as Mrs. Obama’s top adviser on matters of nutrition.

    Over the last year, Mr. Kass and other aides to the first lady have spent countless hours in meetings with company officials; both Mr. Kass and Mr. Dach said Mrs. Obama pushed the company to hold itself accountable by issuing public progress reports. The Partnership for a Healthier America, a nonprofit organization that works with the first lady on her Let’s Move initiative to reduce childhood obesity, will monitor the company’s progress.

  313. OBAMA TOO TIMID TO PRESSURE HU

    Good summary, including these quotes:

    “The Chinese side won this test of wills and power for two reasons. First, they had the easier bargaining position: All they had to do was hold the line”

    “But all the Obama team managed to extract from the visitors was about $45 billion in new contracts to buy American goods and services, particularly civilian airliners from Boeing. Most of these deals had been in the pipeline well before the summit.”

    “Much was made publicly of human-rights issues. Obama had to show that his administration, contrary to some doubters, actually cares about these issues. And Obama did raise them both in private and in public. But he put nothing on the line to pressure Beijing because, in the end, Beijing would have mostly ignored the threats and the American side knew this well.”

    thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-19/us-china-summit-a-stalemate-leslie-h-gelb-on-why-dinner-almost-canceled-obama-didnt-get-the-concessions-he-needed-from-hu-but-he-simply-didnt-have-the-cards-to-play-writes-leslie-h-gelb/

    The Stalemate Summit
    ==================
    by Leslie Gelb

    This U.S.-China summit was a test of the balance of power between the two superpowers. President Barack Obama and President Hu Jintao were well aware of the summit stakes. Obama’s strategy was to push as hard as he could, and he did. He needed Chinese concessions for a successful summit. Hu’s strategy was to resist as hard as he could, and he did, because all he wanted was a summit that did not fail. The Chinese side won this test of wills and power for two reasons. First, they had the easier bargaining position: All they had to do was hold the line, while Washington had to gain concessions. Second, Hu was in a far stronger position overall because China’s economy continues to grow in double digits, while the American economy remains troubled.

    Obama fought the good fight and pushed—unlike the passive posture he adopted a year ago in Beijing. But he had to get concrete concessions from Hu to register a success, while all Hu had to do was smile without giving in and make sure that mutual relations didn’t deteriorate. Last weekend, some members of the Obama team even considered taking desperate measures. Specifically, they were contemplating either simply dropping the joint communiqué at the end of the summit or canceling the state dinner, according to administration officials. Their thinking was that Hu couldn’t possibly afford to let the whole summit fail, while Obama’s toughness would look good politically. Fortunately, they dropped both ideas.

    For Obama, it was precisely the right time to start undoing Beijing’s grossly unfair economic practices. But all the Obama team managed to extract from the visitors was about $45 billion in new contracts to buy American goods and services, particularly civilian airliners from Boeing. Most of these deals had been in the pipeline well before the summit. On the really key economic issues, Hu essentially avoided showdowns and compromises and sounded reassuring. These make-or-break items included China’s unfair currency manipulation to gain price advantages on exports, its stealing U.S. intellectual property to make U.S. goods without paying for them, and its placing high and illegal hurdles in the path of American companies trying to do business in the Middle Kingdom.

    On security issues like China’s assertions of sovereignty over the seas bordering its territory, it was Hu who was doing the asking, and Obama who gave no ground. Here, the U.S. has the cards. For all China’s increased military spending and technological advances, it remains far behind America in military punch. The same held for U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. Beijing insists the sales be stopped because Taiwan is considered part of China. But Washington will continue to assure Taiwan’s safety. Obama had the strong hand on these issues because the military balance of power still favors the U.S.

    Much was made publicly of human-rights issues. Obama had to show that his administration, contrary to some doubters, actually cares about these issues. And Obama did raise them both in private and in public. But he put nothing on the line to pressure Beijing because, in the end, Beijing would have mostly ignored the threats and the American side knew this well. So, all played their prescribed roles on human rights, and that was that.

    As for the other touchy security issues—Iran and North Korea—China puts a finger or two on the American scales to help deal with nuclear proliferation. Obama asked for more, but he didn’t get that either. Beijing just isn’t going to pressure any country, no matter how bad or dangerous. It’s not part of the Chinese playbook, especially if they lose oil and money.

    On the plus side, Obama restored much of America’s credibility for being tough and serious that he had lost in Beijing a year ago. That’s important and will count as problems arise in the coming two years. But he is not going to out-power China until Beijing sees that Washington is prepared to make the tough decisions necessary to repair the American economy. That will impress Chinese leaders. But they will be even more impressed by an American economy that is convincingly rebounding.

  314. rgb44hrc
    January 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    —————
    No worries. She’s just getting her foot in the door of Walmart’s for when she needs to go job hunting in the future. I think being a door greeter would work just fine for her.

    ————–

    “OBAMA TOO TIMID TO PRESSURE HU”

    ——————
    What a surprise! He leaves Hillary to do the heavy work and then once again screws up royally. Yep that’s the experience a potus needs.

  315. JanH
    January 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    I think being a door greeter would work just fine for her.
    &&&&&

    MO: “Sleeveless dresses, aisle 11. Have a great day, y’all”.

  316. From what I’ve seen both online and on TV, MO was out to garner as much attention as possible at the Dinner, and all of it quite unfitting both for a FLOTUS and the Mother Michelle image she fosters elsewhere. Which reminds me, there’s a billboard near here with her exercise website displayed. It recommends we ‘play an hour a day.’ Am thinking she did that yesterday at the Dinner!

  317. …some of the comments on the net re: MO’s dress are really funny…as in she looks like a giant lobster, and saying this is a better choice than her 50’s sock up outfit she wore to Tuscon…

    …my two cents…she wants to make these events about her…there is nothing ‘modest’ about this woman…with her fake eyelashes, overdone and over dramatic daily make-up to the constant need to exhibit her arms and stuff whatever else she can into an ill fitting low cut neckline…and her choice of these bold, almost upholstery or curtain patterns…all scream “look at me”…as she overpowers anyone that is anywhere near her…

    …because of the boldness she always chooses, she usually looks twice the size of everyone she is standing next to, including O…like a football player or…well, I won’t say what also comes to mind…

    she has the same fawning press of O and the fact that most of them are muzzled and have to pretend to believe the myth that she is the next Jackie O…if any other first lady, or HC, SP, etc dressed like this woman with these poorly fitting clothes, garish make-up and wide bow belts they would be trashed by critics but no one dares speak a contrary word re MO…I honestly think she scares the hell out of the critics…her look just dares them…

  318. JanH
    January 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    “Grab a cocktail before you read this”

    —————
    I don’t think one would be enough. I’m not saying another word or I will probably be deleted.
    ___________________

    I understand- it’s sickening!!!!!!

    When do the Impeachment proceedings begin? I’m sure there has to be one (1) Republican that isn’t jealous of BC getting a BJ and forgive it instead of going along with the program introducing Sharia Law into the Land of the Free. By the man with the Muslim dna strand who continues to line their pockets with ‘blood money’ taken from the backs of the American people.

    We can forget the advancement of Women’s Rights, if this all comes to pass!

  319. Strange goings on in the rethug party….LameCherry’s excellent take on Hannity and Colter! Wow!

    The cartel that keeps this doofless in office is trying their best to keep him there. The rethugs (some of them) are in on it according to LameCherry. Of coarse, I’ve always known that.

    Mrs. Smith,
    So what did Odumbo give to the Chinese….the rest of America???

  320. Mrs. Smith
    January 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Grab a cocktail before you read this:

    ===============

    And maybe a few grains of salt, too?

    World Net Daily?

  321. I’m a little puzzled by those Hillary supporters who seem to think that the Republicans will be so much better for the middle class than the Obama admin. History says not. At least they are a check on the dem’s power but I’m not expecting a whole lot more from them. Any of them.

    ===============

    Yep. WE’re mad at Obamacare, which is what the GOP wanted in the 90s. So we elect the GOP themselves?

    Except for Palin, who imo would look for solutions that work even if they are conservative solutions.

  322. For Mrs. Smith:

    From Rumi, an Islamic poet:

    Bring the pure wine of
    love and freedom.
    But sir, a tornado is coming.
    More wine, we’ll teach this storm
    A thing or two about whirling.

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