How Not To Fight And ‘Win’

Laughs aplenty as we approach Christmas. Some are busy wrapping up cats. Some are busy thumping chests.

“It took President Obama fewer than 50 days to go from shellacking to swashbuckling.

Seven weeks earlier to the day, the president faced harsh questions about his leadership as he took responsibility for Democrats’ loss of the House in the previous day’s election. But the man who faced reporters Tuesday afternoon in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building was treated by his questioners as a conquering colossus – and Obama didn’t mind wearing those shoes. [snip]

He bestowed superlatives on his accomplishments:

“The most productive post-election period we’ve had in decades.”

“The most productive two years that we’ve had in generations.”

“The most significant arms-control agreement in nearly two decades.”

“The biggest upgrade of America’s food-safety laws since the Great Depression.”

“Al-Qaeda is more hunkered down than they have been since the original invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.”

More! Most! Biggest! And when he wasn’t praising his accomplishments, he was praising himself: “One thing I hope people have seen during this lame-duck, I am persistent. I am persistent. You know, if I believe in something strongly, I stay on it.”‘

He should have kept most of that, um, stuff, in the sack. But like the celebrity he is he cannot help but be persistent and go on television and jump on sofas. Now no matter how much he tries the box office is not what it used to be.

It is back to “messianic status”. It’s time to try to steal “comeback kid” from the holster of the real Houdini “comeback kid”. “And that was about as tough as the questioning got.”

“Obama even looked better: The makeup was heavy, the lip injury faded, his blue tie coordinated with the curtains. He gave his questioners only half an hour – which turned out to be more than enough for the gentle lines of inquiry. [snip]

Obama, minutes from departure for his Hawaiian vacation, played along.”

Another month, another vacation.

Some of us recall something Barney Frank said during the primaries when Obama and the Hopium Guzzlers were so into “turning pages”.

“This brings me to my particular concern with Senator Obama’s vehement disassociation of himself and those he seeks to represent from “the fights of the nineties.” I am very proud of many of the fights I engaged in in the nineties, as well as the eighties and before. Senator Obama also bemoans the “same bitter partisanship” of that period and appears to me to be again somewhat critical of those of us who he believes to have been engaged in it.

I agree that it would have been better not to have had to fight over some of the issues that occupied us in the nineties. But there would have been only one way to avoid them — and that would have been to give up. More importantly, the only way I can think of to avoid “refighting the same fights we had in the 1990’s”, to quote Senator Obama, is to let our opponents win these fights without a struggle.”

We miss that Barney. We miss a lot of our once friends who used to be interested in telling the truth and not polishing a lie.

Want a health care bill to tout as “unprecedented”? Surrender to Big PhaRma on profits, abort the concerns of women, and rob the elderly on Medicare. Want a painless budget resolution? Rob Social Security. That’s the way to win – don’t fight, just surrender.

“Hillary Clinton supporters’ Christmas message: We told you so.

After the worst two years any Democratic president has ever had, with Democrats, liberals, and moderates fed up with him and knowing there is nothing but coal in their political and policy stockings, and after Obama did to the Democratic Party in 2 years what it took George W Bush to do to the Republicans in 8, Hillary Clinton supporters Christmas message to all those responsible for the mess of a presidency that is Obama is undoubtedly ” we told you so”.

And it’s not like it wasn’t obvious from the beginning. Obama had displayed his entire political life, but especially during the Democratic primaries, that he was the most underhanded, unscrupulous, dishonest, untrustworthy politician since Richard Nixon. But with none of Nixon’s grasp on real politics, how government works, foreign policy and certainly none of Nixon’s toughness.

So why all of Obama’s supporters are complaining now is hard to understand. There was nothing, absolutely nothing from day one, to recommend Obama on any level or suggest to anyone that Obama had any business being president, from his flagrant political dishonesty on display daily during the primaries and continuing into his presidency, his complete lack of conscience when it came to anything except his own political fortunes and his lack of ability evidenced in the fact that he had accomplished exactly nothing — zero — in 13 years as an elected official. Democrats can now add to Obama’s resume that he absolutely wasted the biggest congressional majority any president has had in 50 years.”

But, but, but, according to Big Media and other Obama acolytes he is a colossus with a sack full of, um, stuff ready to unload on our heads next year after the great gifts he bestowed on America this year:

“Washington has rushed to declare President Obama a political Lazarus based on an active and successful lame duck session of Congress that saw tax rates extended for two years, the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and will likely on Wednesday add the ratification of a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia.

But Obama’s accomplishments are likely to be mere foothills compared to the heights that the president and Congress will be forced to scale in the months ahead. The impact of the lame duck on his reelection prospects in 2012 will almost certainly be small. [snip]

Van Hollen said he expects incoming House Speaker John Boehner, Ohio Republican, to push for reducing spending to 2008 levels in the new CR. Boehner, however, has not said when he will try to make significant spending cuts, and there is a good chance he could do so even sooner than March.

Also in the spring, the national debt is likely to be nearing its current ceiling of $14.3 trillion, requiring an act of Congress to raise it. Former Republican Sen. Alan Simpson, who served as a co-chair of Obama’s deficit commission, has predicted a “political bloodbath” during this debt limit fight.

In fact the debate over how to solve the nation’s debt problem and runaway entitlement spending will begin in February when Obama releases his proposed budget for the 2012 fiscal year that begins in October.

And it’s likely that the budget, CR and debt ceiling fights will be just the beginning of a tumultuous year that could make the lame duck’s relative bipartisan spirit a quickly forgotten relic.”

Republicans know what matters is budgets. How you spend your money, and how much money you have to spend is what governing is all about. But not to worry, Obama will score many “wins” as he begins bit by bit to loot Social Security to pay for his shiny objects and vacations. The Republicans will be all too willing to help Obama “win” many more such “victories”.

“I’m getting whiplash trying to follow the Democrats’ talking points. First, it was a disaster when Obama agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts. Obama was a wimp. Then it was a horrid error to allow the omnibus spending bill to die (and with it all that funding for ObamaCare). The White House, liberals complained, also blew it on the DREAM act. And now, presto: Obama has mounted a phenomenal comeback!

Not exactly. The sources of the left’s delight — repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and ratification of the New START treaty — are irrelevant to the vast majority of Americans. Voters care, as the Democrats should have but refused to learn during the referendum of 2010 (the midterms results were, one wit cracked, “a restraining order” on liberal statism), about the economy, jobs and the growth of government. These are far and away the most important issues in every credible survey, and will be the focus of the Republicans’ 2011 agenda.

And if the highlight of Obama’s term, according to outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was the “historic” ObamaCare legislation, then the highlight could soon be extinguished. Obama’s central domestic achievement is facing judicial scrutiny, a Republican onslaught to repeal, or at least defund, it, and a public that has never “learned” to love the bill.”

“Follow the money” is more than just a Watergate relic. It’s called governing. Republicans are governing and Obama Dimocrats are only interested in the bright spotlights of fame and celebrity and a shiny golden calf.

“Only inside the Beltway could the passage of an arms control treaty and repeal of DADT consume so many for so long and result in such exaggerated punditry. Would Republicans have traded wins on DADT and START for their wins on the DREAM act, the tax deal and the omnibus spending bill? Not in a million years. [snip]

They also confuse legislative achievement with political success. If passing stuff was the secret to a political comeback, then the Democrats after ObamaCare and the stimulus plan would have had the greatest year ever.”

Yup. Conservative Jennifer Rubin sounds exactly like Massachusetts liberal Barney Frank:

“But as long as the left wants to succumb to conservatives on the issues that voters care most about — taxes and spending — I suppose conservatives should keep mum. So let’s keep this just between us.”

Republican/conservative Jennifer Rubin must be peering into our Big Pink crystal ball:

“… I don’t see how Democrats could have missed the implications of the defeat of the omnibus for ObamaCare. The aide, with obvious relish, dismissed the idea that Democrats in effect missed this one. He told me, “I think senators knew there was funding in the omni. That makes it all the sweeter: [Senate Democrats] would have had to force a fight to spend more and fund a bill that half the country not only hates, but wants to defund.” [snip]

How did Democrats wind up in this fix? A GOP operative and former Senate staffer e-mails me that “after the omnibus collapsed, [Senate Majority Leader Harry] Reid didn’t have an alternative. If conservatives are feeling bad about START, they should be really happy about this. With the new Congress in January, the GOP will be in a strong position on fighting ObamaCare.”

In other words, the loss of funding is directly attributable to the slothful behavior of House and Senate leaders who passed no budget or appropriations bills before the lame-duck session. They assumed, I guess, that Republicans would roll over and pass an omnibus spending bill after an election, one that everyone had assumed was going to go badly for the Democrats. Well, that was poor planning. The failure was then compounded by Reid, who dramatically overreached on the omnibus, making it impossible to round up votes for cloture.

Defunding ObamaCare is not a new idea that Republicans came up with during the lame duck. It has been the subject of intense discussion by lawmakers, pundits, advisors and activists since the law was passed. The opportunity to defund ObamaCare simply came sooner than expected. And for that, Republicans can only thank Reid and soon-to-be former Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”

Brilliant chess players this triumvirate of clowns – Obama, Reid, Pelosi.



Sounding very much like a Frank Sinatra song we love, even some in Big Media understand that Obama and his Hopium Guzzlers had a “terrible, horrible, no good, very bad year”:

“Obama’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad year

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad year got off to a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad start.

There he was, on New Year’s Day, on vacation with his family in Hawaii, stuck on a secure phone with counterterrorism officials, trying to figure out what screw-ups had allowed a would-be terrorist to board a Christmas Day flight with explosives in his underwear.

Things only got worse for Obama when he returned to Washington in between a pair of epic winter storms.

From the start, 2010 delivered a string of setbacks that built up to an electoral shellacking come November, to use the president’s own word.”

But not to worry. It was a very good year we are told. ‘”This is what change looks like,” Obama said proudly, after the health care law passed.”

It was a very good year:

“JANUARY

Unemployment rate: 9.7 percent. Presidential approval rating in Associated Press-GfK poll: 56 percent. Congressional approval: 42 percent.

The Jan. 19 election to fill the Senate seat vacated by the death of Obama’s ally and friend, Ted Kennedy, delivered a jarring result. [snip]

He was losing touch.

“Do they really get us and what we’re going through?” Obama wondered aloud.[snip]

FEBRUARY

Unemployment rate: 9.7 percent. [snip]

MARCH

Unemployment rate: 9.7 percent. Presidential approval rating: 53 percent. Congressional approval: 22 percent. [snip]

In the fierce maneuvering for a health care law, Democrats rained favors in back rooms to placate deep-pocketed special interests and wavering lawmakers. Spring arrived like streaks of mud on the carpet.

It was a mess. [snip]

“This is a big f—— deal.”

Obama took his victory on the road. In Iowa he dared Republicans to try to repeal the law. You could say he taunted them.

“Go for it,” he said. “Be my guest.” [snip]

APRIL:

Unemployment rate: 9.9 percent. Presidential approval rating: 49 percent. Congressional approval: 28 percent. [snip]

Four days later, oil was found leaking nearly a mile below the surface. [snip]

MAY

Unemployment rate: 9.7 percent. Presidential approval rating: 49 percent. Congressional approval: 28 percent.

The oil slick was massive and growing. [snip]

Overseas, just before Memorial Day weekend at home, a roadside bomb pushed the U.S. military death toll to 1,000 in Afghanistan, the war that Obama decided to fight with escalating force while withdrawing combat boots from Iraq. [snip]

JUNE

Unemployment rate: 9.5 percent. Presidential approval rating: 50 percent. Congressional approval: 24 percent. [snip]

JULY

Unemployment rate: 9.5 percent.

The administration called it “Recovery Summer” but people didn’t seem to be buying it. [snip]

Joblessness is now. [snip]

AUGUST

Unemployment rate: 9.6 percent. Presidential approval rating: 49 percent. Congressional approval: 24 percent. [snip]

Michelle Obama’s five-day trip to the south of Spain with daughter Sasha touched off a mini-firestorm stoked by questions about the wisdom of such a glamorous trip and over-the-top speculation about who was footing the bill. Suddenly the popular first lady was being labeled a “material girl” sponging off taxpayers. [snip]

“It’s time to turn the page,” he said. [snip]

SEPTEMBER

Unemployment rate: 9.6 percent. Presidential approval rating: 49 percent. Congressional approval: 26 percent.

Restive voters were not waiting for November to have their say. [snip]

OCTOBER

Unemployment rate: 9.6 percent. Presidential approval rating: 49 percent. Congressional approval: 23 percent.

Obama campaigned largely in urban areas in liberal states, his unpopularity such that many Democrats wanted to keep their distance from him in the home stretch. [snip]

If Democrats used the health care law in their campaigns, it was to dissociate themselves from it. [snip]

NOVEMBER

Unemployment rate: 9.8 percent. Presidential approval rating: 47 percent. Congressional approval: 26 percent.

Obama was reflective the day after. He was not looking for asses to kick. [snip]

Obama blew off some steam at a pickup basketball game, coming away with a gashed lower lip needing 12 stitches. [snip]

DECEMBER

The year drew to a close with the government in a defensive crouch against the drip-drip-drip of WikiLeaks disclosures. [snip]

A burst of bipartisanship came back, this time with teeth. It has left liberal Democrats feeling bitten.”

‘”This is what change looks like,” Obama said proudly, after the health care law passed.”

Yeah. Change for the worse.

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438 thoughts on “How Not To Fight And ‘Win’

  1. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,736320,00.html

    SPIEGEL’s Washington correspondent Marc Hujer writes on SPIEGEL ONLINE:

    “Barack Obama was the biggest loser of 2010. He allowed the angry Tea Party movement to grow powerful, he did not pass any decent laws despite his majority in Congress and he was aloof, elitist and indecisive. He had to accept a formidable, yet entirely understandable, defeat in the midterm elections as a result. No one expected much from Obama, at least not during the rest of this year.”

    “Now, just days before Christmas, Congress has ratified the New START disarmament treaty with Russia. … Will Obama build on this victory? Is it Obama’s breakthrough as a president? Will it mark his comeback as a reformer? … Is a new era of cooperation beginning?”

    “The opposite is much more probable, namely that the disarmament treaty will be Obama’s last significant achievement for a long time. In January, the new Congress will convene. The new representatives who won in the midterm elections will come to Washington, including those Tea Party activists who have little interest in making compromises with Obama. With them, Congress will move to the right …. Possibly the only reason why so many Republicans voted for Obama’s law was because they themselves fear the new era and see few chances of passing sensible, bipartisan laws in the new Congress.”

  2. geesh…it has been a long, long year…and we have two more years of O left…

    two more years of the O charade and phoney media…

    …so now they want to turn O into Bill and make him the ‘comeback kid’…do not think so…

    btw Admin, that Tom Paine article was spot on…thx for including in your clear analysis…

  3. This must infuriate US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice and her controllers, who were confident last week that they had a nice little war in the works on the Korean Peninsula…

    The South Korean News Service Yonhap announced today that the informal talks between the US and North Korea, canceled after the Nov. 23 shelling incident in the West Sea (Yellow Sea), have resumed in New York City, through Pyongyang’s Mission to the UN. An unidentified source [OMG!… a leak!] told Yonhap that the renewed talks were part of the US “two-track strategy of dealing with the North with both pressure and dialogs.”

    A Russian expert on the Korea situation reported that Susan Rice had refused to coordinate with either State or Defense during the Sunday emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, in which she blocked any war avoidance resolution calling for restraint on both sides, demanding obedience to the British draft which placed all the blame on North Korea.

  4. Ooooo a new post by Admin, still reading but couldn’t resist this…

    “Obama even looked better: The makeup was heavy, the lip injury faded, his blue tie coordinated with the natural color of his lips!

  5. Excellent summary, admin-

    I wonder how long the baboons will stay in denial?
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    “A Russian expert on the Korea situation reported that Susan Rice had refused to coordinate with either State or Defense during the Sunday emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, in which she blocked any war avoidance resolution calling for restraint on both sides, demanding obedience to the British draft which placed all the blame on North Korea.”
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    You mean our representative/ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice demanded obedience to the British draft which placed all the blame on North Korea because she was late for a Christmas Party?

  6. Yippie, great post Admin-

    Hold on to your hats, I think next year is going to be the great Baracko Give Away.

    No pink ponies, no rainbow colored unicorns…………..just a bunch of hardship for the American middle class, that will never work long and hard enough to get back to the Clinton years.

  7. I saw the cat wrapping video at Uppity’s site and couldn’t believe that the cat put up with that. What a mellow cat.
    Saw Obama grinning from ear to ear and saying ‘thank you’, thank you’ to the clapping and cheering people in the WH yesterday. Quickly turned the channed as I muttered that I couldn’t believe he was taking credit for DADT passage. Later a reporter at the WH briefing as Gibbs if Obama wasn’t taking a victory lap by promoting his accomplishments during the news conference. Gibbs brushed the question aside so the reporter asked it again. I figured it must have been pretty blatant for the fawning press to be surprised by it.
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/WhiteHouseDailyBriefing1605

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Year-End-Presidential-News-Conference-Highlights-Legislative-Wins/10737418477-1/

  8. I would like to add my good wishes to all of you who celebrate Christmas. I hope you have a wonderful one full of peace and lovely family memories. 🙂

  9. I never watched Oprah, so I don’t really care what she has to say, but for the ladies who did watch Oprah, what do you think of this?

    I know when Oprah endorsed Waffles over Hillary, and never once defended Hillary (or Sarah) against sexism, I was pretty stunned, here is a woman who made her entire career pretending to care about women, promoting women, and the first chance she gets at endorsing a woman for president or vp, and forget endorsing them, she won’t even lift a finger to defend them against the sexism she purports to fight.

    I certainly wasn’t surprised, any ladies or gents here surprised?

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/12/oprah-im-still-in-the-tank-for-obama.html

  10. tim,

    Oprah’s maturity took a huge hit in supporting the fake potus. She was like a giggling school girl where he was/is concerned and old enough to probably be his mommy. In other words she crushed on him, wanted an AA in power no matter how unskilled and corrupt he was.

  11. JanH
    December 23rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Isn’t her show ending at the end of this year?

    I remember thinking she’s pissed off Hillary supporters and then pissed off Sarah supporters, as well as those who supported both women, so who’s left? Waffle supporters?

    Very interesting that she hasn’t figured out why her popularity plummetted.

  12. Yes, her show is ending at the end of this year (but I think they mean probably in May or the TV Year). Correct me if I am wrong.

    Anyway, now she has her own network, so I assume she will have her own propaganda avenue.

  13. 1. The great hope of Jews and Christians whether now or later>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBfPnUZh-Bc

    2. The great hope of Obama, his Klingon Bots, his anti American allies and the Whore of Babylon big media:

    Please accept with no obligation, implied or explicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2011 but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee.

    3. And what about our Muslim friends? Hard to say, but according to Mullen there is a lot of chatter, according to Neopolitano she is honored to work for Barack Obama and sends his best wishes from the golf course, and according to Clapper after a long pause, my staff failed to brief me, but you have my word we are all safe–whatever the fuck that means.

  14. Gestapo..American style
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    Sacramento-area pilot punished for YouTube video
    George Warren 12/22/2010

    SACRAMENTO, CA – An airline pilot is being disciplined by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) for posting video on YouTube pointing out what he believes are serious flaws in airport security.

    Update: Whistleblowing pilot explains why he did it

    The 50-year-old pilot, who lives outside Sacramento, asked that neither he nor his airline be identified. He has worked for the airline for more than a decade and was deputized by the TSA to carry a gun in the cockpit.

    He is also a helicopter test pilot in the Army Reserve and flew missions for the United Nations in Macedonia.

    Three days after he posted a series of six video clips recorded with a cell phone camera at San Francisco International Airport, four federal air marshals and two sheriff’s deputies arrived at his house to confiscate his federally-issued firearm. The pilot recorded that event as well and provided all the video to News10.

    At the same time as the federal marshals took the pilot’s gun, a deputy sheriff asked him to surrender his state-issued permit to carry a concealed weapon.

    A follow-up letter from the sheriff’s department said the CCW permit would be reevaluated following the outcome of the federal investigation.

    The YouTube videos, posted Nov. 28, show what the pilot calls the irony of flight crews being forced to go through TSA screening while ground crew who service the aircraft are able to access secure areas simply by swiping a card.

    “As you can see, airport security is kind of a farce. It’s only smoke and mirrors so you people believe there is actually something going on here,” the pilot narrates.

    Video shot in the cockpit shows a medieval-looking rescue ax available on the flight deck after the pilots have gone through the metal detectors. “I would say a two-foot crash ax looks a lot more formidable than a box cutter,” the pilot remarked.

    A letter from the TSA dated Dec. 6 informed the pilot that “an administrative review into your deputation status as a Federal Flight Deck Officer has been initiated.”

    According to the letter, the review was directly related to the discovery by TSA staff of the YouTube videos. “The content and subject of these videos may have violated regulations concerning disclosure of sensitive security information,” the letter said.

    The pilot’s attorney, Don Werno of Santa Ana, said he believed the federal government sent six people to the house to send a message.

    “And the message was you’ve angered us by telling the truth and by showing America that there are major security problems despite the fact that we’ve spent billions of dollars allegedly to improve airline safety,” Werno said.

    The pilot said he is not in trouble with his airline, but a supervisor asked him to remove public access to the YouTube videos.

    He does, however, face potential civil penalties from the TSA. He said he would likely go public when it becomes clear what the government plans to do with him.

  15. Admin: politics is a form of war and war requires good generals. Not just luck ones because luck is a fleeting thing. You have something unique which the father of modern warfare Prussian General Carl von Clausewitz called the commanders intuition or “coup d’oeil”, which enables the leader to gain and maintain the initiative in a protracted engagement.

    I speak here of the singular ability to recognize at the precise moment in battle the truth, or in other words, a high level of situational awareness that the mind would ordinarily miss or would perceive only after long study and reflection.

    The following paragraphs from your essay above are definitely of that caliber and they put to shame the pathetic vaudeville act of big media which is intended to support the big lie–that Obama is in any way shape or form presidential. He is not merely a poor leader, he is the antithesis of a leader at the very moment when the country needs a true leader like Hillary.
    ——————————————————————–
    After the worst two years any Democratic president has ever had, with Democrats, liberals, and moderates fed up with him and knowing there is nothing but coal in their political and policy stockings, and after Obama did to the Democratic Party in 2 years what it took George W Bush to do to the Republicans in 8, Hillary Clinton supporters Christmas message to all those responsible for the mess of a presidency that is Obama is undoubtedly ” we told you so”.

    And it’s not like it wasn’t obvious from the beginning. Obama had displayed his entire political life, but especially during the Democratic primaries, that he was the most underhanded, unscrupulous, dishonest, untrustworthy politician since Richard Nixon. But with none of Nixon’s grasp on real politics, how government works, foreign policy and certainly none of Nixon’s toughness.

    So why all of Obama’s supporters are complaining now is hard to understand. There was nothing, absolutely nothing from day one, to recommend Obama on any level or suggest to anyone that Obama had any business being president, from his flagrant political dishonesty on display daily during the primaries and continuing into his presidency, his complete lack of conscience when it came to anything except his own political fortunes and his lack of ability evidenced in the fact that he had accomplished exactly nothing — zero — in 13 years as an elected official. Democrats can now add to Obama’s resume that he absolutely wasted the biggest congressional majority any president has had in 50 years.”

    But, but, but, according to Big Media and other Obama acolytes he is a colossus with a sack full of, um, stuff ready to unload on our heads next year after the great gifts he bestowed on America this year:

    “Washington has rushed to declare President Obama a political Lazarus based on an active and successful lame duck session of Congress that saw tax rates extended for two years, the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and will likely on Wednesday add the ratification of a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia.

    But Obama’s accomplishments are likely to be mere foothills compared to the heights that the president and Congress will be forced to scale in the months ahead. The impact of the lame duck on his reelection prospects in 2012 will almost certainly be small. [snip]

    Van Hollen said he expects incoming House Speaker John Boehner, Ohio Republican, to push for reducing spending to 2008 levels in the new CR. Boehner, however, has not said when he will try to make significant spending cuts, and there is a good chance he could do so even sooner than March.

    Also in the spring, the national debt is likely to be nearing its current ceiling of $14.3 trillion, requiring an act of Congress to raise it. Former Republican Sen. Alan Simpson, who served as a co-chair of Obama’s deficit commission, has predicted a “political bloodbath” during this debt limit fight.

    In fact the debate over how to solve the nation’s debt problem and runaway entitlement spending will begin in February when Obama releases his proposed budget for the 2012 fiscal year that begins in October.

    And it’s likely that the budget, CR and debt ceiling fights will be just the beginning of a tumultuous year that could make the lame duck’s relative bipartisan spirit a quickly forgotten relic.”

  16. A Russian expert on the Korea situation reported that Susan Rice had refused to coordinate with either State or Defense during the Sunday emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, in which she blocked any war avoidance resolution calling for restraint on both sides, demanding obedience to the British draft which placed all the blame on North Korea
    ————————–
    Refused to coordinate with State or Defense? Really? Fire her ass!

  17. This post is six months old and yet it serves as a beacon warning us of the treachery and lies which emanate from the NBC organization and its cable affiliate.

    Craig Crawford leaves MSNBC…
    Longtime MSNBC analyst Craig Crawford has left the network…according to Craig Crawford…

    For those who might be interested – and you have every reason not to be – I am no longer with MSNBC. Three months short of my current contract I sent the following to the boss, Phil Griffin: “Phil, Just wanted to give you the heads up that my situation with MSNBC has become so unrewarding for me that I’ve decided to move on. — Craig”

    And Crawford saves the real venom, and dirt, for the thread comments…

    Can’t tell ya how hard this choice was to make. I’ve had a difficult time with MSNBC since the presidential primaries, should have pulled the trigger long ago. but my scotch-irish blood keeps me loyal long past the bitter end, which has long past, sadly.

    _______________

    i simply could not any longer endure being a cartoon player for lefty games, just gotta move on to higher ground even if there’s no oxygen

    _______________

    thanks bethy, i have never and never will forgive Chris for calling me a racist after the West Virginia primary (the last time I will ever go on air with him). Probably should have resigned then and there, but better late than never.

    Crawford was a mainstay on MSNBC for a very long time and also one of the more level headed analysts they had. If the Craig Crawfords of the network are getting fed up with what’s going on, that’s bad. One can only infer from Crawford’s tweets exactly what at MSNBC is going wrong in his eyes (“lefty games”, while a pretty provocative term, is also maddeningly inexact and unspecific) but it’s obvious he really got fed up with Matthews. But aside from Matthews, what else?

    Update: Crawford expands on his explanation to Mediaite’s Steve Krakauer…

    I haven’t felt like a good fit for MSNBC since the presidential campaign, and the hard turn toward point-of-view programming. No particular event brought this on, just my desire to try other outlets and have more fun. As far as Chris is concerned, on Morning Joe after the West Virginia primary he accused me of always defending Clinton and what he claimed to be her racially motivated campaigning. That’s the problem. Trying to be fair became seen as bias in the new thinking over there. But I do wish my many pals at MSNBC nothing but good things.

    Adds Krakauer…

    The decision by a Countdown regular to leave MSNBC because of his the way he perceives the network is a notable one. Although Crawford isn’t purely left-wing, he is a commentator that represents the left perspective. His exit, and his reasoning, show some level of discontent among those who may be politically on the same team at MSNBC.

    No kidding. It’s a problem.

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    20 Responses to “Craig Crawford leaves MSNBC…”
    polculture Says:
    March 5, 2010 at 7:04 am
    Didn’t Keith Olbermann kick Crawford off his show after Crawford defended the Clintons and attacked the press corps’ behavior towards them on Morning Joe? Before that, you saw Crawford on Countdown almost every night. Afterwards, you never did until after the primary season was over. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who publicly attacked Obama’s anti-Iraq record, was a Countdown regular who got the boot, too.

    Crawford’s comments on Morning Joe were something:

    “I have watched the coverage, and I really think the evidence-free bias against the Clintons in the media borders on mental illness. I mean, I think when Dr. Phil gets done with Britney [Spears], he ought to go to Washington and stage an intervention at the National Press Club.”

    You can watch the clip here:

    polculture Says:
    March 5, 2010 at 7:16 am
    I don’t think I saw Crawford on Morning Joe much after this, either. Scarborough and Brzezinski aren’t lefties by any measure–I don’t care what anyone claims about Mika–but defending the Clintons is beyond the pale for members of the DC-Manhattan media clique, regardless of political orientation.

    ouchboy Says:
    March 5, 2010 at 7:37 am
    It,s becoming more and more obvious how liberal, progressive pundits are on msnbc. They push a Obama agenda with every sentence they speak. What,s worst is that Cris is not the worst of them. All of msnbc programming is geared to campaign mood for Obama,s political agenda. Whats so hypocritical thou is how they label fox for being bias. One would beleive that conservatives republicans, Sarah Palin, fox news and tea party folks are dangerous , liars, crooks, and racist if you watch msnbc. I think most level minded people are starting to realize and see through msnbc at last. Craig has opened the eyes of most of us.

  18. Tim

    I certainly wasn’t surprised, any ladies or gents here surprised?

    ————
    I never liked Oprah nor have I ever watched her show. I did like her in the Color Purple, but there was something not genuine about her…exploits. I would have been shocked if she had stood up for either white woman. Kind of like her buddy Baracko.

  19. When you have to explain what you have accomplished, and keep telling people you are doing a great job, there is a problem.

    People recognize Leaders, and accomplishments. They are not fooled by the media. They also keep track of how many vacations that their leaders take. One is working their Ass off, and the other well, lets face it, does not work tht much.

    However, he continues to talk about his HUGH victories this week. The Reps impress me more and more with their handling of the 2010 election, and the ending of year end. They knew better than to create a complete stalemate. They knew they would be calling the shots, and the census district realignments shortly. They wisely elected Gov, and Secretaries of States to assist in this manner.

    There is an old expression. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. O takes vacations, while the Republicans plan their next moves.

  20. Der Spiegel –

    The World from Berlin
    ‘Barack Obama Was the Biggest Loser of 2010’

    SPIEGEL’s Washington correspondent Marc Hujer writes on SPIEGEL ONLINE:

    “Barack Obama was the biggest loser of 2010. He allowed the angry Tea Party movement to grow powerful, he did not pass any decent laws despite his majority in Congress and he was aloof, elitist and indecisive. He had to accept a formidable, yet entirely understandable, defeat in the midterm elections as a result. No one expected much from Obama, at least not during the rest of this year.”

  21. Greensleeves. By Renee Flemming. Probably the best soparano of our time, for those who keep track of such things. Of course if Barack sang soprano then big media would line up and declare him the best soprano of our time. But he is not a soprano. Likewise, if Barack played golf rather than hookey on a golf course–I mean if he really played golf–not that good walk spoiled and that flailing move at the ball we see, but a credible golf swing, then big media would up and declare him the best golfer in history, better than Hogan, Nicklaus and Tiger combined. But alas he is no golfer. If Barack were president, I mean if he really was a legitimate president then big media would line up and declare him the greatest president in history–oh what the fuck they do that anyway even though he is not legitimate. But he is definitely . . . Barack and he and Reverend Wright are probably cooking up some satanic ritual, some black sunday, some Dia de Los Muertos. But back to the original point, if Barack was the equal of Renee Flemming then it would be the prima donnas lament I live for art. Instead what he gets is a tissue from Michelle and reassurance that the peoople of this country do not deserve him. That is perhaps the only thing we can all agree on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VmADpBVmCw&feature=related

  22. This article exemplifies exactly the issue fought over between the Constitutionalists and the Federalists at the creation/writing of the Constitution. The Federalists wanted Trade as the keystone of the Constitution and because of the vagaries of the Constitution protecting the Rights of US citizens, the Constitutionalists created the Bill Of Rights thinking they were adding definition to the Constitution.

    BTW- Justice Scalia, is president of the Federalist Chapter in Washington, DC. This Trade Deal with Terrorist Nations has a Republican bent to it. The R’s always want to be seen a “pure” and will allow Dems to take the credit for this travesty.
    _______________________

    U.S. OKs business with terror-supporting nations

    Loopholes let companies get lucrative deals with Iran, Cuba, North Korea

    NEW YORK — Despite sanctions and trade embargoes, over the past decade the United States government has granted special licenses allowing American companies to do billions of dollars in business with Iran and other countries blacklisted as state sponsors of terrorism, an examination by The New York Times has found.

    At the behest of a host of companies — from Kraft Food and Pepsi to some of the nation’s largest banks — a little-known office of the Treasury Department has made nearly 10,000 exceptions to American sanctions rules, approving deals involving countries that have been cast into economic purgatory, beyond the reach of American business.

    Most of the licenses were approved under a decade-old law exempting agricultural and medical humanitarian aid from sanctions. But the law, pushed by the farm lobby and other industry groups, was written so broadly that allowable humanitarian aid has included cigarettes, Wrigley gum, Louisiana hot sauce, weight-loss remedies, body-building supplements and sports rehabilitation equipment sold to the institute that trains Iran’s Olympic athletes.

    Hundreds of other licenses were approved because they passed a litmus test: They were deemed to serve American foreign policy goals. And many clearly do, like deals to provide famine relief in North Korea or to improve Internet connections — and nurture democracy — in Iran. But the examination also found cases in which the foreign-policy benefits were considerably less clear.

    In one instance, an American company was permitted to bid on a pipeline job that would have helped Iran sell natural gas to Europe, even though the United States opposes such projects. Several other American businesses were permitted to deal with foreign companies believed to be involved in terrorism or weapons proliferation. In one such case, involving equipment bought by a medical waste disposal plant in Hawaii, the government was preparing to deny the license until an influential politician intervened.

    U.S. sanctions still tough

    In an interview, the Obama administration’s point man on sanctions, Stuart Levey, said that focusing on the exceptions “misses the forest for the trees.” Indeed, the exceptions represent only a small counterweight to the overall force of America’s trade sanctions, which are among the toughest in the world. Now they are particularly focused on Iran, where on top of a broad embargo that prohibits most trade, the United States and its allies this year adopted a new round of sanctions that have effectively shut Iran off from much of the international financial system.

    “No one can doubt that we are serious about this,” Mr. Levey said.

    But as the administration tries to press Iran even harder to abandon its nuclear program — officials this week announced several new sanctions measures — some diplomats and foreign affairs experts worry that by allowing the sale of even small-ticket items with no military application, the United States muddies its moral and diplomatic authority. “It’s not a bad thing to grant exceptions if it represents a conscious policy decision to give countries an incentive,” said Stuart Eizenstat, who oversaw sanctions policy for the Clinton administration when the humanitarian-aid law was passed. “But when you create loopholes like this that you can drive a Mack truck through, you are giving countries something for nothing, and they just laugh in their teeth. I think there have been abuses.”

    What’s more, in countries like Iran where elements of the government have assumed control over large portions of the economy, it is increasingly difficult to separate exceptions that help the people from those that enrich the state. Indeed, records show that the United States has approved the sale of luxury food items to chain stores owned by blacklisted banks, despite requirements that potential purchasers be scrutinized for just such connections.

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    ..Heavily redacted snapshot
    Enforcement of America’s sanctions rests with Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, which can make exceptions with guidance from the State Department. The Treasury office resisted disclosing information about the licenses, but after The Times filed a federal Freedom of Information lawsuit, the government agreed to turn over a list of companies granted exceptions and, in a little more than 100 cases, underlying files explaining the nature and details of the deals. The process took three years, and the government heavily redacted many documents, saying they contain trade secrets and personal information. Still, the files offer a snapshot — albeit a piecemeal one — of a system that at times appears out of synch with its own licensing policies and America’s goals abroad.

    In some cases, licensing rules failed to keep pace with changing diplomatic circumstances. For instance, American companies were able to import cheap blouses and raw material for steel from North Korea because restrictions loosened when that government promised to renounce its nuclear weapons program and were not recalibrated after the agreement fell apart.

    Mr. Levey, a Treasury undersecretary who held the same job in the Bush administration, pointed out that the United States did far less business with Iran than does China or Europe; in the first quarter of this year, .02 percent of American exports went to Iran. And while it is “a fair policy question” to ask whether the definition of humanitarian aid is overly broad, he said, the exception has helped the United States argue that it opposes Iran’s government, not its people. That, in turn, has helped build international support for the tightly focused financial sanctions.

    Beyond that, he and the licensing office’s director, Adam Szubin, said the agency’s other, case-by-case determinations often reflected a desire to balance sanctions policy against the realities of the business world, where companies may unwittingly find themselves in transactions involving blacklisted entities.

    “I haven’t seen any licenses that I thought we should have done differently,’” Mr. Szubin said.

    Humanitarian aid

    For all the speechifying about humanitarian aid that attended its passage, the 2000 law allowing agricultural and medical exceptions to sanctions was ultimately the product of economic stress and political pressure. American farmers, facing sharp declines in commodity prices and exports, hoped to offset their losses with sales to blacklisted countries.

    The law defined allowable agricultural exports as any product on a list maintained by the Agriculture Department, which went beyond traditional humanitarian aid like seed and grain and included products like beer, soda, utility poles and more loosely defined categories of “food commodities” and “food additives.”

    Even before the law’s final passage, companies and their lobbyists inundated the licensing office with claims that their products fit the bill.

    Take, for instance, chewing gum, sold in a number of blacklisted countries by Mars Inc., which owns Wrigley’s. “We debated that one for a month. Was it food? Did it have nutritional value? We concluded it did,” Hal Eren, a former senior sanctions adviser at the licensing office, recalled before pausing and conceding, “We were probably rolled on that issue by outside forces.”

    While Cuba was the primary focus of the initial legislative push, Iran, with its relative wealth and large population, was also a promising prospect. American exports, virtually nonexistent before the law’s passage, have totaled more than $1.7 billion since.

    In response to questions for this article, companies argued that they were operating in full accordance with American law.

    Henry Lapidos, export manager for the American Popcorn Company, acknowledged that calling the Jolly Time popcorn he sells in the Sudan and Iran a humanitarian good was “pushing the envelope,” though he did give it a try. “It depends on how you look at it — popcorn has fibers, which are helpful to the digestive system,” he explained, before switching to a different tack. “What’s the harm?” he asked, adding that he didn’t think Iranian soldiers “would be taking microwavable popcorn” to war.

    Terrorism links not checked

    Even the sale of benign goods can benefit bad actors, though, which is why the licensing office and State Department are required to check the purchasers of humanitarian aid products for links to terrorism. But that does not always happen.

    In its application to sell salt substitutes, marinades, food colorings and cake sprinkles in Iran, McCormick & Co. listed a number of chain stores that planned to buy its products. A quick check of the Web site of one store, Refah, revealed that its major investors were banks on an American blacklist. The government of Tehran owns Shahrvand, another store listed in the license. A third chain store, Ghods, draws many top officials from the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, which the United States considers a terrorist organization.

    The licensing office’s director, Mr. Szubin, said that given his limited resources, they were better spent on stopping weapons technology from reaching Iran. Even if the connections in the McCormick case had come to light, he said, he still might have had to approve the license: the law requires him to do so unless he can prove that the investors engaged in terrorist activities own more than half of a company.

    “Are we checking end users? Yes,” he said. “But are we doing corporate due diligence on every Iranian importer? No.”
    A McCormick spokesman, Jim Lynn, said, “We were not aware of the information you shared with us and are looking into it.”

    Inouye steps in

    Beyond the humanitarian umbrella, the agency has wide discretion to make case-by-case exceptions. Sometimes, political influence plays a role in those deliberations, as in a case involving Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii and a medical-waste disposal plant in Honolulu.

    On July 28, 2003, the plant’s owner, Samuel Liu, ordered 200 graphite electrodes from a Chinese government-owned company, China Precision Machinery Import Export Corporation. In an interview, Mr. Liu said he had chosen the company because the electrodes available in the United States were harder to find and more expensive. Two days later, the Bush administration barred American citizens from doing business with the Chinese company, which had already been penalized repeatedly for providing missile technology to Pakistan and Iran.

    By the time Customs seized the electrodes on Nov. 5, waste was piling up in the sun. Nor did prospects look good for his application to the licensing office, seeking to do an end run around the sanctions. On Nov. 21, a State Department official, Ralph Palmiero, recommended that the agency deny the request since the sanctions explicitly mandated the “termination of existing contracts” like Mr. Liu’s.

    That is when Senator Inouye’s office stepped in. While his electrodes were at sea, Mr. Liu had made his first-ever political contribution, giving the senator’s campaign $2,000. Mr. Liu says the timing was coincidental, that he was simply feeling more politically inclined. Records show that an Inouye aide called the licensing office on Mr. Liu’s behalf the same day that Mr. Palmiero recommended denying the application. The senator himself wrote two days later.

    Mr. Inouye’s spokesman, Peter Boylan, said the contribution had “no impact whatsoever” on the senator’s actions, which he said were motivated solely by concern for the community’s health and welfare.
    The pressure appears to have worked. The following day, the licensing office’s director at the time asked the State Department to reconsider in an e-mail that prominently noted the senator’s interest. A few days later, the State Department found that the purchase qualified for a special “medical and humanitarian” exception.

    The license was issued Dec. 10. Two months later, Mr. Liu sent the senator another $2,000 contribution, the maximum allowable. Mr. Levey said he could not comment on the details of a decision predating his tenure. But he noted that sanctions against the Chinese company had since been toughened, and added, “Certainly this transaction wouldn’t be authorized today.”
    An exception, then a warning
    Mr. Liu’s license is hardly the only one to raise questions about how the government determines that a license serves American foreign policy.

    There is also, for instance, the case of IRISL, an Iranian government-owned shipping line that the United States blacklisted in 2008, charging that because it routinely used front companies and misleading terms to shroud shipments of banned arms and other technology with military uses, it was impossible to tell whether its shipments were “licit or illicit.”

    Less than nine months earlier, the licensing office had permitted a Japanese subsidiary of Citibank to carry out the very type of transaction it was now warning against. Records show that the bank had agreed to confirm a letter of credit guaranteeing payment to a Malaysian exporter upon delivery of what were described as split-system air conditioners to a Turkish importer. Though the government had yet to blacklist IRISL, sanctions rules already prohibited dealings with Iranian companies. So when the bank learned that the goods were to be shipped aboard the IRISL-owned Iran Ilam, it sought a license.

    The license was granted, even though the Treasury Department’s investigation of IRISL was well under way and the United States had reason to be suspicious of the Iran Ilam in particular; that summer, the ship had attracted the attention of the intelligence community when it delivered a lathe used to make nuclear centrifuge parts from China to Iran, according to government officials who requested anonymity to speak about a previously unpublicized intelligence matter.

    Mr. Szubin said that since the blacklisting of IRISL, his agency had forced banks to extricate themselves from such transactions. But at the time the Citibank license was issued, his agency regularly issued licenses in cases like this one, where at the time of the transaction, the bank had no way of knowing that IRISL was involved and where the shipping line would be paid by a foreign third party anyway. To depart from the norm, he said, risked facing a lawsuit charging unfair treatment and tipping IRISL off that it was under investigation.

    But if the government has sometimes been willing to grant American businesses a break, some companies have recently decided that the cost to their reputations outweighs the potential profit.

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    ..General Electric, which has been one of the leading recipients of licenses, says it has stopped all but humanitarian business in countries listed as sponsors of terrorism and has promised to donate its profits from Iran to charity.

    As Joshua Kamens, the head of a company called Anndorll, put it, he knew from almost the minute he applied for a license to sell sugar in Iran that “it would come back to haunt me.” And although he received the go-ahead, he decided in the end to back out of the deal.

    “I’m an American,” he said. “Even though it’s legal to sell that type of product, I didn’t want to have any trade with a country like Iran.”

    Ron Nixon contributed reporting from Washington, and William Yong from Tehran.

    This article, U.S. Approved Business With Blacklisted Nations, first appeared in The New York Times.

    msnbc.msndotcom/id/40798089/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

  23. Russia Puts Off Final OK of START Treaty to January

    Russian lawmakers gave preliminary approval Friday to an arms agreement with the United States, but signaled they would slow progress on the so-called New START treaty to a crawl after it was rushed through Congress earlier this week with some 11th-hour arm-twisting by President Obama.

    The treaty cleared an initial hurdle through Moscow’s lower house of parliament, but a senior lawmaker said the treaty won’t get full approval until at least next month.

    Konstantin Kosachev, head of the State Duma’s foreign affairs committee, said that the treaty would need a total of three required readings before it can be fully ratified. He said full ratification could only happen next month “at the earliest.”

    The assessment seems to put the brakes on the document Obama called a top priority as he whipped up the Republican votes needed to pass it before the end of the lame-duck session.

    The treaty, which was ratified Wednesday by the U.S. Senate, would limit each country’s strategic nuclear warheads to 1,550, down from the current ceiling of 2,200. It also would re-establish a system for monitoring and verification, which ended last year with the expiration of a previous arms control deal.

    The pact is a centerpiece of Obama’s efforts to “reset” ties with Russia. In a phone conversation on Thursday, Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev congratulated Obama on the Senate’s approval of the treaty, which the two leaders hailed as a historic event for both countries and for U.S.-Russia relations, according to a statement from the White House.

    Speaking in a live interview with top Russian TV stations on Friday, Medvedev praised the pact as a “cornerstone of stability both on the European continent and the entire world for the next decades,” adding he was happy to see the Russian parliament moving ahead to ratify it. He credited Obama for securing the pact’s ratification.

    “He did a great job, succeeding in his push for the ratification of this very important document, the New START in quite difficult conditions,” Medvedev said. “I told him: Barack, you have a rest now.”

    Obama called the treaty a national security imperative and pressed strongly for its approval before the new Congress, with a Republican majority, assumes power in January. In recent days, he had telephoned a handful of wavering Republicans, eventually locking in their votes.

    The Obama administration has argued that the United States must show credibility in its improved relations with its former Cold War foe. It is also counting on Russia to help pressure Iran over its nuclear ambitions.

    When Obama and Medvedev signed the arms pact in Prague in April, they agreed to conduct ratification simultaneously. But Kosachev and other top Russian lawmakers said they need to study Senate legislation accompanying the treaty before making a decision.

    Republicans had tried to kill the treaty by forcing changes in its language that would have sent it back for negotiations with Moscow. Democrats sought to appease some Republican senators by letting them raise these issues in legislation accompanying the treaty that would not directly affect the pact.

    On Wednesday, two such amendments, one on missile defense and one on funding for the U.S. nuclear arsenal, passed with support from both parties.

    Kosachev said that the Duma will likely counter the Senate legislation with legislation of its own.
    “We don’t have the right to leave their interpretations unanswered,” Kosachev told reporters on Friday. “Otherwise it may give additional advantages to our American partners – or, possibly, opponents. We need to balance those advantages.”

    He said that the house would meet after the New Year’s vacation that lasts until Jan. 11 to consider the ratification bill in the second reading.

    The treaty also needs to be ratified by the upper house, the Federation Council, which like the Duma is controlled by the Kremlin.

    Speaking to upper house members on Friday, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the legislation accompanying the treaty doesn’t change it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/24/russia-puts-start-treaty-january-early-approval/

  24. Mrs. Smith
    December 24th, 2010 at 8:14 am

    I am always convinced its America-loving, US-Constitution loving Americans who will always in the end defend America and the foundation upon what its built even when its not profitable for them, even when the politician, notice I didn’t say public servants, will sell out America and her people in a heartbeat.

  25. Yes, Tim, I agree… we will.

    That is if we can stay current with how fast Obama is moving lagging in defense of our borders and installing Radical Muslims with WH appointments with the intent of changing the fabric of what America is all about.

    Read here:

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=242993

    U.S. congressman declares: Borders will be ‘irrelevant’. Stunning statement from same lawmaker sworn in with hand on Quran, not Bible.

  26. I am always convinced its America-loving, US-Constitution loving Americans who will always in the end defend America and the foundation upon what its built even when its not profitable for them, even when the politician, notice I didn’t say public servants, will sell out America and her people in a heartbeat.
    ——————————————————————–
    Tim, I have said the same thing myself repeatedly, but truth to tell I am no longer convinced that they will rise up in the face of the kind of provocation detailed in the Declaration of Independence. I think we have produced a nation of wusses. Wusses who can be led down the primrose path by big media, and any attempt to stand up to those totalitarian forces will be treated as a peasants revolt and brutally suppressed. This reality is amply demonstrated by the fact that nearly half the population does not get it when it comes to Obama. That suggests a fundamental lack of judgment. This was not true of prior generations, but it is true today. A century of consumerism which began in the 1920s, the rise of celebrity, the absence of being tested, the unwillingness to stand up for principle if it involves an ounce of sacrifice all combined have produced a population which is easily manipulated by greed or fear and a misplaced sense of hope. That is not to say there are not heroic people, patriots and even saints in our midst, but the missing element is organization, and a real willingness to hang together and fight. The only hope that I see at this point is the tea parties. People here are inclined to attribute the withering and continuing attacks launched by big media against Hillary and Sarah as gender based, and there are tactical elements which suggest that conclusion. However, there is another factor in play which nobody talks about which may be the real cause in fact, and that is that both of them stood up for average Americans whereas elites despise average Americans. For them, being pro Obama is not merely a fashion statement, but a way to protect their class and their interests. They would disagree with this of course but when the chips are down they can do no more than support their own economic interests at the expense of the rest of us. This is not a case of simply adopting more successfully to a changing environment as social darwinists contend. There is real malice aforethought, and the clear elements of class stuggle, read Hedges.

    http://www.redstate.com/brian_d/2010/12/23/senate-democrats-poised-for-power-grab/

  27. Good morning wbboei…

    I completely agree with this statement of yours:
    “However, there is another factor in play which nobody talks about which may be the real cause in fact, and that is that both of them stood up for average Americans whereas elites despise average Americans”

    for my business, and I am not the only small business owner I know that does this, we always whenever possible try and buy “Made in America” products, sometimes its more expensive, but we try. Its not like a company policy, but I want jobs in America and I know buying those American-made products helps our country. And more and more people are now figuring out the elites who claim to be for the little guy don’t give a shit about them, and frankly look down on them…. just check out idiots like lefty Ben Affleck’s latest statement.

    I don’t think people are as much of wusses as I used to think. I think people are rising up because now they are being aware of what is going on, not the ignorant drones, as Mark Levin says, but with the Internet, information is so accessible, history, real history is so accessible.

    People may not be republicans, but they believe in the Constitution, they believe in American exceptionalism, they believe in America, and this is what Waffles does not believe in, this is what Hillary and Sarah believe in. Oh yes, I am convinced bit by bit people are rising up and saying HELL NO to this nonsense.

    democrats now means Obama democrats, and that means radical liberals, there is no longer a place for JFK dems or moderate/conservative dems in this undemocratic socialistic party. Never thought I would see the day when the party of the little guy has such contempt for the little guy and the little guys who worked their way to success.

  28. “He did a great job, succeeding in his push for the ratification of this very important document, the New START in quite difficult conditions,” Medvedev said. “I told him: Barack, you have a rest now.”
    ———————————-
    Yes, from the Russian perspective, Obama did a “great job” of selling his own country down the river. Are there defects in this treaty which was rushed through congress? You decide:

    The treaty limits the US missile defenses and the preamble suggests that we would not engage in any new military technologies to thwart nuclear weapons! It also says we cannot convert any of our rockets into interceptors and it locks in about a ten thousand Russian edge in tactical nuclear warheads. It reduces strategic warheads — where there is now rough parity — but not tactical ones where Russia has a huge advantage.

    And, why should we be rewarding Russia by relieving them of the expense of building new missiles and defense systems? Had Reagan followed this line of liberal thinking, the Cold War would never have been won! Remember that Russia’s economy is less than one-tenth the size of ours. So the best way to reduce their power is to make them divert spending into the military. That is the best way to accomplish our basic goal: To bring down a Russia increasingly focused on domination and replace it with a democratic nation that lives at peace with the world.

    Nice job Obama. You tool.

  29. tim
    December 24th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    well, off to work. Mrs. Smith, and everyone, have a very merry Christmas.
    _______________________

    Enjoy your day off celebrating the holiday, tim.

    Best Holiday Wishes to you and your family.

  30. wbboei —
    yep, the Russians are grinning no doubt, apparetnly reading a Reagan book is the lastest PR stunt by this pathetic admin. The man has no identity, he’s like tofu, takes on whatever flavor for the moment.
    I’m sure we’ll be soon be hearing him quote Reagan’s quotes, and then Nancy Reagan will swat back…

    huh. didn’t realise Christian amampoor was still on ABC, her viewship falls 49%, I am so shocked/sarc
    maybe she needs to bring on Daisy Khan again…

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/sunday-show-ratings-december-19_b45219

  31. Many Judicial Picks Aren’t Confirmed
    Some of Obama’s Key Choices for Federal Slots Failed to Receive Full Senate Vote or Committee Review

    Dead Head Patrick Leahy calls this a travesty.

    I would say this to him in rebuttal:

    People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    He is a travesty as well.

  32. I don’t think people are as much of wusses as I used to think. I think people are rising up because now they are being aware of what is going on, not the ignorant drones, as Mark Levin says, but with the Internet, information is so accessible, history, real history is so accessible.
    ——————————
    That is true if you look at the tea parties. I just do not have much faith anymore in so many of our fellow citizens. They were duped into supporting Obama, they follow big media like puppy dogs and they constitute an ignorant force in the body politic which I call rube nation. It is not a matter of education. It is a matter of judgment and street smarts, which they seem to lack. Jay Cost made the excellent point that the verdict on Obama is pretty much settled by now, and more than half the country does not like the agenda he is proposing. The problem is those that do, and so many Republicans who just roll over.

  33. “I don’t think people are as much of wusses as I used to think. I think people are rising up because now they are being aware of what is going on, not the ignorant drones, as Mark Levin says, but with the Internet, information is so accessible, history, real history is so accessible.”

    “People may not be republicans, but they believe in the Constitution, they believe in American exceptionalism, they believe in America, and this is what Waffles does not believe in, this is what Hillary and Sarah believe in. Oh yes, I am convinced bit by bit people are rising up and saying HELL NO to this nonsense.”

    “democrats now means Obama democrats, and that means radical liberals, there is no longer a place for JFK dems or moderate/conservative dems in this undemocratic socialistic party. Never thought I would see the day when the party of the little guy has such contempt for the little guy and the little guys who worked their way to success.”
    _________________

    Agreed, people aren’t wusses and neither is Congress. Neither is Congress led by the media. Congress have become bought and paid for $ell-out$. $elling out US Citizens, grabbing with both hands, for their own personal gain. They all had a price. When that threshold was met their deal with the Devil was
    complete and final no going back.

    They will all pay in the end. Hopefully before too many people are hurt because of their corruption.

    Video excerpt of the old movie:

    “The Devil and Daniel Webster.”

  34. People may not be republicans, but they believe in the Constitution, they believe in American exceptionalism, they believe in America, and this is what Waffles does not believe in, this is what Hillary and Sarah believe in. Oh yes, I am convinced bit by bit people are rising up and saying HELL NO to this nonsense.
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    Oh I agree Tim. They are saying hell no. And when they say hell no the elites laugh and call them angry. It does not affect the lives of the elites. They lead a privileged existence. The question is what do the people who believe in the constitution do then. What do they do when they are rebuffed, or laughed at by the elites? Where do they go? Nature abhors a vaccum. For me at least this next year will tell the story. On the one hand the economy is showing some signs of life and modest prospects for limited job growth. Not enough to solve the unemployment debacle however. And then you have the next wave of economic earthquakes precipitated by the default by states and by union pension funds. We are talking trillions. Finally, not to be mussed in the above link you see how institutional republicans cave in. So where do the people who believe in the constitution go–other than the tea parties. The answer to me is far from clear.

  35. On This Christmas Eve 2010, I would like to wish all the bloggers,Admin, regulars, readers, and those who just hang out once and a while, a Good Christmas, and the Hope for a better New Year.

  36. Merry Christmas everyone!

    May the new year bring real change for the better, and not this faux, oppresive Obama change.

  37. May the happy moments of Christmas pass slowly gathering lovely memories for Administrator and everyone here at Hillary is 44.

    Merry Christmas to the Clintons as well.

  38. Merry Christmas everyone, I’m spending a nice quiet christmas and taking a break for a few days, back blogging soon. XX.

  39. December 24, 2010

    Where the Clintons Spent the Night Before the Night Before

    By JODI RUDOREN

    A call came in to the newsroom on a quiet Christmas Eve day with this little gem:

    Seems that the Clintons — that’s the former president, Bill; the current secretary of state, Hillary; and this summer’s Bride of the Century, Chelsea — stopped by the Café Carlyle on Thursday night. They were there to toast Steve Tyrell, the singer who took over when Bobby Short died in 2005. Mr. Tyrell, whom Stephen Holden, a music reviewer for The Times described as “a Burt Bacharach protégé with one foot in New Orleans,” is to be married on Sunday — at the Carlyle, natch — to Karen Pulaski. President Clinton and Chelsea were said to have danced to Mr. Tyrell’s rendition of “The Way You Look Tonight,” from the movie “Father of the Bride,” at Chelsea’s wedding to Marc Mezvinsky in Rhinebeck, N.Y., on July 31, according to our tipster.

    “We came at 8, and they were already sitting down,” said the tipster, Neil Leifer, a filmmaker and former Sports Illustrated photographer who knows Mr. Tyrell from their evenings together at Elaine’s, the famed Upper East Side watering hole. “There was a lot of Secret Service.”

    The 8:30 p.m. show was delayed a bit, Mr. Leifer reported, because Mr. Clinton had gone to the restroom and then chatted up some people at the bar on the way back. The Clintons stayed for the whole show, which ended about 10:30 p.m., and then for about half an hour afterward, posing for pictures with Mr. Tyrell, Mr. Leifer and others (Mr. Clinton stayed 15 minutes longer than his wife and daughter, Mr. Leifer said.)

    “He was singing throughout the show,” Mr. Leifer said of the former President. “He was mouthing the words, you could see it from where I was sitting.”

    To introduce “The Way You Look Tonight,” Mr. Tyrell told the story of how the younger Ms. Clinton had chosen it for the father-daughter dance at her wedding. “She got up, and I remember thinking, ‘What a strange time for her to go to the ladies’ room,’ ” Mr. Leifer said of Chelsea. “But she went over to sit with her dad. I can’t remember whether she put her arm around him, or he put an arm around her. It was quite a touching moment, actually.”

    Mr. Leifer, who is best known for his photographs of Muhammad Ali fighting Sonny Liston, said he did not normally bring a camera to dinner. But said he had a feeling something was up when he called for a reservation, and the maitre d’hotel said there might be a lot of security. These are his pictures, of course.

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/where-the-clintons-spent-the-night-before-the-night-before/?partner=rss&emc=rss

  40. Everyone who wants to push Hillary out of 2012 latches on to this 2016 nonsense. I weary of it. Rove is the latest example. He knows that if she gets the nomination in 2012 they cannot beat her. That could well be his motive–and he never does anything without a motive. He seldom deals in truth, I fully expect that if she does not run in 2012 she will do exactly what she says and devote the rest of her career to promoting the rights of women and children. And when she does that it will be well nigh impossible to run for president. As a matter of fact, I would make book on it. I believe her.

  41. Merry CHristmas everyone, I’m off to save lives in the emergency room….lets all pray their won’t be anything to do!

  42. Merry Christmas, confloyd and everyone- glad we are taking time off from politics for a little while and enjoying the day for all the good things it brings. Spending time in the real world with the people we hold most dear, friends and family.

    I’m off to Christmas breakfast. My 3 yr old, grand-twins are still sleeping. Amazing!

    Best wishes to admin, Bill, Hillary, Chelsea and Marc, have a wonderful and joyful day.

  43. Good Morning all. I don’t expect anyone much to be here. Yes, confloyd, I hope it was a quiet time in the ER. We have a great TV ad here showing a grave digger, who says business is slow, and then as they pan away, you find he s a grave digger, and he says he is happy, as there few drunk drivers killed over the Holidays.

    So that is what I wish for this blog, and the country, a slow holiday season for the Grave Digger.

  44. If you look at this flurry of year end legislation, whether it be START or this so called tax compromise, you will be struck by the fact that it is bad policy on the other, and was passed for no better reason than to create a headline. The other noteworthy thing is it is a clear and unambiguous repudiation of what the voters told these so called leaders in the November elections both at the federal and the state level. The obvious question, then, is why did the Republicans go along with it. The obvious answer, which also happens to be the correct one, is they did not listen to their constituents, are not doing their job, and believe that once they are re elected they can do anything they want the serves their donors and Washington DC interests. I hope the tea parties can take them down because that is the only way to break this vicious cycle.

  45. May all my friends here on Big Pink enjoy the holidays and pray for anyone you wish.The loss of my Son and my lovely Wife I will never forget but I still have the rest of my family to love and cherish.So you see I am blessed and life must go on until we are summoned.

    Happy Holidays to all ABM90

  46. wbboei
    December 24th, 2010 at 1:43 am

    You write here as though it was Obama who the MSM loves. They will love who they are told to love. The “one” is the one that has the “game” to get himself elected and the immorality to betray all those who were bamboozled into electing him for the sake of those who “brung him”. And still think he has “game”, then again maybe he does.

    And, although I thought so a first, I don’t think it was Nancy and Harry who brung him.

  47. Before anything I should have wished everyone here a Joyous and Merry Christmas.

    So I wish everyone a Joyous and Merry Christmas !

  48. Carol
    December 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am
    Jan H

    I thought you might be around today. If you are, I have a question for you.

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    Hi Carol. 🙂

  49. What a disgusting rumor this is…

    ‘Richardson likely to succeed Hillary Clinton’

    US “troubleshooter” Bill Richardson, who just returned from a trip to North Korea, is likely to be tapped to succeed Hillary Clinton to become the next U.S. Secretary of State, Yonhap News Agency said Saturday citing a report.

    “Numerous sources are pointing toward New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson as possibly replacing Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State in 2011,” Exminer.com said.

    The possibility is opening up, with some circumstantial signs backing up the view.

    For example, the current U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s husband, Bill Clinton, is suffering from heart conditions and she is said to want to spend more time with her family, it said.

    If Hillary Clinton steps down, Richardson is likely to be one of the strongest candidates for the position. The New Mexico Governor has a background in diplomacy. He previously served as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations as well as energy secretary under President Clinton.

    Richardson also acted as a troubleshooter a few times before when American civilians became hostages in North Korea, by visiting North Korea and rescuing them.

    Richardson himself also recently stated that he would like a position in the Obama administration after he leaves office at the end of this year, the report said.

    Fitting into the change, Obama advisor David Axelrod said Friday that there would be “significant changes” announced in the Obama Whitehouse after the President returns from his vacation in Hawaii, it added.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/12/113_78600.html

  50. Happy Christmas to all: we have a White Christmas here with about 5 inches of snow glistening in blinding sunlight. First White Christmas since the 1950s. Global warming guys are going to have some ‘splainin’ to do – I mean it almost never snows in this temperate climate: for the last 40 yrs, we’d get some cold drizzle in January and February, which I hated ’cause I was on a bicycle and my feet would get wet… anyway, this year it’s been snowing since late November.

  51. Chicago seen as likely 2012 Obama HQ
    Fundraising clout, D.C. angst cited

    WASHINGTON — —
    The White House says President Barack Obama has not made a decision on where to locate his re-election headquarters for 2012, but observers expect the campaign to return to its 2008 base: Chicago.

    Such a decision would buck recent history. Every two-term president in the last 30 years — George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan — set up re-election campaign offices near the White House or in suburban Virginia.

    A key factor favoring Chicago’s selection is the anti-Washington climate that has swept the country. Another is the insurgency candidacy anticipated from Obama’s rivals, who are expected to make the case that the times are bad, the nation’s capital is broken, Obama has been captured by Washington — and they offer voters an alternative.

    Running the re-election effort out of Chicago wouldn’t stop those arguments, but it could blunt them.

    One sign that the campaign may be based in Chicago is the planned return to the city of David Axelrod, the top strategist behind Obama’s win in ’08 and a White House senior adviser since. After the State of the Union address in late January, Axelrod is expected to come back to Chicago, possibly in February, and begin ratcheting up what’s known as “the re-elect.”

    A Chicago base would offer plenty of advantages: The city is loaded with longtime loyalists, many with fundraising muscle. It’s within striking distance of battleground states Obama must court: Iowa, Ohio, Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. It’s far enough from Washington to avoid those unwelcome political consultants who, as one Democratic strategist put it, are “trying to get a piece of the ad money and always in your ear offering their two cents.”

    The bottom line? “He will and must select Chicago,” said American University political scientist James Thurber. “He needs to project an anti-Washington image and keep the campaign staff far away from the echo chamber in D.C.”

    Potential drawbacks involve coordinating the president’s moves and messages with top political advisers split between the Washington and a Chicago campaign shop. In 2008, Obama’s anchors — his wife and daughters — were in Chicago, but now their home is the White House.

    Not that Obama himself would be a frequent flier to Chicago if his nerve center goes up there, since often he’d be on the road campaigning.

    Patti Solis Doyle, a Chicago native who for a time led Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2008 campaign and joined Obama’s after Clinton’s concession, said the city is a logical pick. “Chicago makes more sense than Washington. He’s from Chicago, he still has his home in Chicago, and in terms of the staff, there are direct flights running almost every hour.

    “What Chicago offers is what it offered in ’08: You can be more focused on the task at hand — and the scuttlebutt and the buzz and the Washington talk is more background music, as opposed to being at the forefront.”

    Some Democrats envision a skeletal staff starting work in the spring and a larger team in place in the summer or fall.

    The Obama campaign in 2008 had its primary offices in Chicago’s Loop at 233 N. Michigan Ave. There aides worked on political matters, policy, finance, communications, scheduling, speechwriting, field operations, technology, new media, research and outreach to groups including labor, women, minorities, and gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people.

    Donna Brazile led Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign, which made a high-profile, midcourse correction in September 1999 by moving its headquarters from Washington’s lobbyist-heavy K Street to Nashville’s Church Street.

    Gore said he wanted to “get closer to the American people, closer to the grassroots and out of the Beltway and into the heartland.”

    Brazile, asked about the choice awaiting Obama, said: “It’s important to get the staff out of the Beltway chattering class. And it will force some reporters to cover the campaign and not the inside-the-Beltway noise.”

    But even if Chicago wins, it may be some time before the campaign emerges publicly. With a large crop of Republican hopefuls and support yet to coalesce around one, Obama is expected to adopt a short-term strategy of looking, acting and sounding presidential — not like a candidate.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-obama-campaign-headquarters-ch20101225,0,317383.story

  52. A Chicago base would offer plenty of advantages: The city is loaded with longtime loyalists, many with fundraising muscle. It’s within striking distance of battleground states Obama must court: Iowa, Ohio, Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan.
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    The problem with Ohio is that in the last election, the entire state went Republican. He’ll get the cold shoulder when he visits Ohio in his 2012 campaign and I’m sure that applies to other states as well.

  53. Of course, Bill Richardson wants a job in the Obama administration. He wants a job period. Good luck with that.

  54. Have a wonderful holiday everybody with family and friends. Rest up and get refreshed to take on the fight again afterwards. I’m talking to more people who are really upset at the way things are going in our govt and ready to stop saying “what can you do?” and actually fight!
    That’s why I love this site – no punches pulled.
    Thank you and Seasons Greetings Admin.

  55. Jan H

    I work out of my home and spend hours alone. I like to have the TV on for some conversation and news in the background. Since 9/11, like most Israelis, I feel the need to hear any breaking news…I have 2 children living in NYC.

    I can no longer stand Fox for very long…turned off CNN a long time ago and truly detest them. I also tried to look for some streaming news.
    Do you know if there something to listen too that perhaps I am unaware of?

    Also this for everyone on the birther situation:

    U.S. | December 25, 2010
    Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
    By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
    Neil Abercrombie, who knew Barack Obama’s parents, is incensed at those who assert he was born in Kenya.

    Perhaps they fear that the Repugs will pass legislation requiring proof of citizenship before running for POTUS. THough I don’t think that will happen as the repugs know that BO is their best chance at winning back the white house in 2012.

  56. Carol,

    As far as t.v. goes, I do turn to PBS and BBC sometimes to get the news.

    As far as Fox goes, I limit my watching to Greta now.

    In Canada, I listen to CBC Canada radio which is on par with BBC.

    I also get daily email news alerts from World Jewish Daily for my fix on Israeli and Jewish news, and also get weekly alerts from the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

    Other than that, I usually have to search high and low to find accurate news reporting on the internet.

  57. I remember when CNN came on the air in the early 1980’s. I watched Bernard Shaw reporting on the Gulf War and I was hooked.

    How things have changed.

  58. It is about time for some of those rumors about Richardson’s private life to start floating around.

    Or does have a different group of standards?

  59. You write here as though it was Obama who the MSM loves. They will love who they are told to love. The “one” is the one that has the “game” to get himself elected and the immorality to betray all those who were bamboozled into electing him for the sake of those who “brung him”. And still think he has “game”, then again maybe he does.

    And, although I thought so a first, I don’t think it was Nancy and Harry who brung him.
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    Betty, I do think they have a thing for Obama and I think it goes well beyond commercial motives or what they may or may not be told by their superiors. Their words and deeds are the stuff of a steamy love novel. I find it rather revolting myself. Before you reject this premise however I invite you to consider the unprofessional and rather bizarre behavior of big media stars like Cameron Brown lately of CNN scowling at Hillary and batting her false eyelashes at Bambi, or Chris Matthews talking about something running down his leg, or Olberman acting out his sado masochistic fantasies, or Andrew Sullivan who lusts for his flabby abs, or Blow whose mere name invokes images that should be banned by the Hayes Commission, or Chris Buckley who informs us that he thinks about Obama when he is fornicating, I am not making this stuff up. They said these things and they did these things and what they said and did are indicative of a state of mind which is either what we call love or disguises of love. If not then I defy you to tell me what else it could be because it has nothing to do with journalism.

  60. Global warming guys are going to have some ’splainin’ to do [….] this year it’s been snowing since late November.

    =================

    I’ve seen some good sites about why overall warming is causing some areas to have unusual snow etc. I’ll look for them.

    Iirc there’s something about warmer air carrying more moisture up to the latitudes where it will be met by cold that turns it to snow.

    Here’s evidence on the overall warming:

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2010/10
    The Northern Hemisphere land surface temperature was the second warmest on record for January–October. The ocean temperature was also the second warmest such period on record. The Northern Hemisphere as a whole—land and ocean combined—had its warmest January–October on record.
    In the Southern Hemisphere, both the land surface temperature and ocean surface temperature ranked as the fourth warmest January–October since records began in 1880. The Southern Hemisphere as a whole tied with 2002 and 2003 as the second warmest January–October on record.

  61. Here’s a good clear write-up of some of the main factors (dated Feb 2010):

    http://www.reporternews.com/news/2010/feb/10/expert-variations-part-of-climate-change/
    Heat waves, drought, heavy rainfall, and yes, even snowstorms and blizzards, are getting more and more frequent, she said.

    “As the atmosphere warms, it can hold more water vapor,” she said. “And the amount of water vapor it holds has actually increased by about 5 percent, on average, around the world just over the past few decades.”

    That means more water in the atmosphere to make rain if temperatures are above freezing, or to make snow if it’s below freezing, Hayhoe said.

    “So with these large storms, wherever they are, they just have more precipitation,” she said.

    According to the 2009 climate report, precipitation in the United States has increased an average of 5 percent over the past 50 years, meaning northern areas are expected to become wetter, while southern areas are expected to become drier.

    But the amount of rain falling in the heaviest downpours has increased about 20 percent on average in the past century, a trend expected to continue.

    A January report by the National Wildlife Federation also predicated some U.S. areas will have more intense snows because of climate change, even with spring now arriving — on average — 10 to 14 days earlier than a couple of decades ago.

    It is important to understand, the 2009 climate report said, that year-to-year fluctuations in natural weather and climate patterns can produce a period that does not follow long-term trends, meaning every year will not necessarily be warmer than every year before it.

    One must also allow for other factors, such as the current El Niño pattern, which has brought a predicted colder, wetter winter [to southern US in 2009].

  62. JanH

    PBS disgraced itself during the primary with totally pro Obama all the time. I no longer turn them on.

    But I will try BBC,though I don’t think I can get BBC on my basic cable , which is all I have in my studio.

    Thanks.

  63. Merry Christmas to everyone!

    Here’s an article that I received in an email today. The situation at the border with Mexico should always be in our thoughts until the situation is rectified. We don’t need the violence transported across the border from Mexico, but that is what is now happening, and the Democrats are playing “nice guy”. Another reason why I can’t stand them anymore.
    ========================

    Bean Bags vs. AK-47s
    Tom Tancredo

    December 18, 2010

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=240945

    Another Border Patrol agent on the Arizona border was shot and killed by Mexican drug smugglers last Tuesday. Of the eight attackers, four are in custody and a fifth is under surveillance by Border Patrol Blackhawk helicopters as he tries to make his way back to the Mexican border.

    BP Agent Brian Terry was part of a BORTAC team (for border tactical unit) tracking armed drug smugglers 15 miles northwest of Nogales, Ariz., (and only three miles west of Interstate 19) when they were attacked with automatic weapons fire. The area is well-known as a major drug-smuggling corridor, and the smugglers are known to frequently be armed with AK-47s and other long rifles.

    Here’s the part Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Border Patrol management are trying to hide: Border Patrol Agent Terry and the BORTAC team were under standing orders to always use (“non-lethal”) bean-bag rounds first before using live ammunition. When the smugglers heard the first rounds, they returned fire with real bullets, and Agent Terry was killed in that exchange. Real bullets outperform bean bags every time.

    The larger, ugly truth Napolitano and senior managers in the Border Patrol want to hide is that the rules of engagement and inadequate weaponry of the Border Patrol place the lives of all agents at grave risk. The National Border Patrol Council, which represents over 15,000 field agents, believes the border is too dangerous for officers to patrol without body armor, armored vehicles and automatic weapons.

    Another aspect of this story that is not being reported is that the site of the shooting, Peck Canyon , is inside the area Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., has proposed to designate as the Tumacacori Highlands Wilderness reserve. If Grijalva’s bill is enacted into law, what is now a well-established drug smuggling corridor will become a drug-smuggling superhighway, because the Border Patrol will be prohibited from patrolling the region. Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah has proposed legislation that will remove the restrictions on Border Patrol jurisdiction on such public lands within 50 miles of the border.

    On Thursday, Secretary Napolitano and several aides flew to Tucson to meet with local Border Patrol brass. The Obama administration obviously has a mess on its hands, and Napolitano does not want it to blow up before today’s U.S. Senate vote on the Dream Act. They know another murder on the southwest border will not help garner needed votes for the Dream Act, because senators supporting that bill must be able to say with a straight face, “The border is as secure as it has ever been.”

    The BORTAC team encountered not one or two smugglers but a team of eight. Four are in custody, one is under surveillance in the rugged terrain of the Pajarita Wilderness area east of the small ranch town of Ruby , and three others are missing. The captured smugglers had AK-47s and backpacks filled with ammunition, food and radios. There are rumors that three of the captured four are members of the Mexican military, but that is unconfirmed. Yet, it would not be the first time Mexican police and military have been apprehended smuggling drugs into the United States .

    It is not widely reported by our news media that the smugglers maintain a dozen or more permanent lookout posts on desert hilltops inside the U.S., and that those lookout posts are manned in week-long shifts by individuals who commute not from Mexico but from Phoenix, Tucson and other Arizona cities.

    The allegation that the Sinaloa drug cartel obtained those AK-47s from gun shops in the United States is nonsensical. That’s a fairy tale cooked up by the Obama administration and endorsed by the Mexican government because they do not want to admit that the cartels get most of their serious weaponry from the international black market and the Mexican military itself.

    The rules requiring first use of bean-bag ammunition is but one example of the suicidal rules of engagement that govern Border Patrol operations. The reason they have such insane rules? The politicians who run the agency do not want the public to think the border is so dangerous a place that Border Patrol agents fear for their lives. In other words, the rules of engagement are based on a lie, a lie that must be maintained for political purposes.

    Secretary Napolitano should do two things on Monday morning. First, she should order all Border Patrol agents to be issued weapons adequate for both self-defense and apprehension of armed drug smugglers. The second thing she should do Monday morning is resign.

  64. I understand that the creme of the big media washington press corp assembled at the White House to interrogate Obama about the year end state of the country, and Tapper and the rest of those clowns confined their comments to wishing the guy they should be seriously questioning about world affairs to wishing him a merry Christmas. Since this is the way they operate, wouldn’t it be better all the way around if they stayed in their own offices and let their colleagues in the press secretary’s office email them their script? It could mitigate the use of fossil fuels if they did not motor in to the White House, and the entire effort seems rather superfluous to me, since they are little more than potted plants.

  65. wbboei, media did so much to prop him and push him over the finish line, they are not ever going to admit that they ‘selected’ a boob. For them to reveal the boob that he is is to admit their own failure and they will never do it. And the easy way out is to not put him to test, not ask him the hard questions, and so on.

  66. My favorite columnist M J Akbar back home had this to say about Holbrooke in his recent column:

    ….Holbrooke was the sort of man who took no prisoners in his day job and dominated the room when off duty. His fascinating official career began in Vietnam, paused for a stint as editor of ‘foreign affairs’ and would have ended as the peace-broker of Bosnia if his friend and mentor Hillary Clinton had not given him diplomatic charge of America’s latest war zone. He would have occupied her present office if Hillary had won the White House.
    …..

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/121950/who-has-last-word.html

  67. Bill Clinton To Campaign For Rahm Emanuel

    Saturday, 25 Dec 2010

    (NewsCore) – Former President Bill Clinton will endorse and campaign with Chicago mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel, Fox News Channel reported Saturday.

    Emanuel served in the Clinton White House from 1993 to 1998, ultimately as Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy. He also served as chief of staff in the Obama White House.

    The Chicago mayoral election is February 22, with a runoff, if necessary, scheduled for April 5.

    Earlier this week, Chicago’s election commissioners voted unanimously that Emanuel qualified as a city resident eligible to run for mayor, ending any speculation that he would not be able to run.

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/news/bill-clinton-to-campaign-for-rahm-emanuel-dpgonc-km-20101225_11209082

  68. wbboei, media did so much to prop him and push him over the finish line, they are not ever going to admit that they ’selected’ a boob. For them to reveal the boob that he is is to admit their own failure and they will never do it. And the easy way out is to not put him to test, not ask him the hard questions, and so on.
    ————————–
    Which is why we have to keep up the drum beat that they are corrupt, dishonest and unworthy of the role of gatekeeper. Let the internet give both sides of the story and we will decide for ourselves. Nothing they tell us with respect to Obama can be taken at face value.

  69. JanH
    December 25th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Bill Clinton To Campaign For Rahm Emanuel
    ________________________

    Oh, my- I’ll be waiting for the cries of “accountability”, said the student to the professor.

  70. Jay Cost has an interesting article which debunks the myth promulgated by the far left that all non-whites will vote for the democratic party like 90% of the blacks do. Howard Dean who is tied to Wall Street claimed that the Republican Party is the white peoples party in an transparent attempt to stir racist antagonism as he alway does. Turns out the assumption is wrong, and he cautions conservatives not to fall for it. I do think, however, that white people consider whether it is wise to continue in the democratic party, and if not then go independent. I do not think they will get a fair hearing if they stay, unless they have lots of money.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/census-hispanics-and-future-grand-old-party_524780.html

  71. Fitting into the change, Obama advisor David Axelrod said Friday that there would be “significant changes” announced in the Obama Whitehouse after the President returns from his vacation in Hawaii, it added.
    ****************
    I pray the announcement is that he will resign!

  72. Secretary Napolitano should do two things on Monday morning. First, she should order all Border Patrol agents to be issued weapons adequate for both self-defense and apprehension of armed drug smugglers. The second thing she should do Monday morning is resign.
    **************
    Very good advise!

  73. wbboei
    December 25th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    OMG you made my eyes roll back into my head. I really don’t watch tv much, well I like “The Closer”. I learned to hate tv news way back when Tim Russert, Cokie Roberts and Brit Hume told everyone what we were thinking.

    So I will take your word for it, as I do for a lot of things. It is just that think that we will never prevail until we see the enemy clearly and the MSM can be a shiney thing just like anything else.

  74. My hero son-in-law gave me the small version of the Mac air. I have never had a Mac and can’t figure out how to correct spelling. Except by continuously going back and re-guessing. This one looks ok, thought for sure continuously was off. But I do love this little machine.

  75. I think the following will interest most of you. I hadn’t thought of this before, but when I read these articles tonight, I immediately felt that others need to read this. This is two articles that talk about the possible threat to our nations food supply, and to those who work at our food factories.
    ———————–

    A couple of articles that mention things that I did not know until tonight. American needs to be vigilent… always. This is long, but important.
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    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/all-americans-must-die-written-on-wall-of-tyson-chicken-plant-that-adopted-muslim-holiday-in-2008.html

    “All Americans Must Die” written on wall of Tyson Chicken plant that adopted Muslim holiday in 2008
    “They’ve complained for years, as to why these people are being hired in our food department when we are worried about our safety as Americans, you know, and that’s something we all need to think about.”

    Indeed. Tyson Chicken in Shelbyville went out of its way to be accommodating to its Muslim employees in 2008, when it adopted Eid al-Fitr as an official plant holiday. Of course, maybe it wasn’t one of the Muslim employees who wrote “All Americans Must Die” on the wall, but given the prevalence of jihadist sentiments among Somali Muslims elsewhere in the U.S., it is neither rocket science nor “Islamophobia” to put two and two together.

    Stuart Appelbaum, the national president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU), which negotiated the agreement with Tyson that made Eid into a plant holiday, commented at the time: “There’s no question that there is a lot of bigotry against Muslims and that this agreement has clearly touched a raw nerve among those who are prejudiced against them. However, the RWDSU has always understood that unions are only strong when they work to protect the dignity of workers of all faiths.”

    Great. And yet it seems as if at least one of the workers at the Tyson plant still nurses a deep and violent grievance against the U.S. and Americans, despite this display of magnanimity and strike against “bigotry.” Now, why might that be? And why doesn’t Tyson have any mechanism in place to try to screen its Muslim employees for jihadist sentiments, insofar as that is possible at all? Because to attempt such a thing would be more “bigotry,” of course.

    And so the other employees at this Tyson plant are put at risk, and the company has to go to extra trouble and expense to ensure their safety — all in the name of not appearing “bigoted.” Security guards posted at the bathroom! Other guards patrolling through the plant!

    Could you have imagined on September 12, 2001 that within ten years, an American business that had nothing to do with terrorism, weapons production, security, or anything of the kind, would have to have armed guards patrolling its hallways, as the price of the privilege of having Muslim employees?

    “‘All Americans Must Die’ Written On Plant Wall,” by Deanna Lambert for WSMV.com, December 23 (thanks to Weasel Zippers):

    SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. — The Shelbyville chief of police and a former Tyson employee confirmed that threatening messages surfaced this week, leading to extra security at the plant.
    “A couple days ago, they had a terrorist threat that was written on the bathroom walls that said ‘all Americans must die,’” said a woman, who said she wanted to remain anonymous to protect her relative, who works inside the plant….

    “One day last week, someone set the women’s bathroom on fire, and they finally put a security guard at the bathroom door,” the woman said.

    She said workers are scared.

    “Some of them are afraid. They’ve been talking about it and worried about it and wondering what Tyson is going to do about it,” she said.

    “We have not been asked to come down to Tyson to make any kind of official report,” said Chief Austin Swing.

    But Swing said the department has been asked to provide an armed, off-duty officer to patrol inside the plant through the holidays. Tyson didn’t explain the reason why….

    He said he believes Tyson has already removed the graffiti and is conducting its own investigation into who’s responsible.

    “They’ve doubled up the guards in the guard shack outside,” the anonymous woman said.

    Some at the plant are concerned.

    “They’ve complained for years, as to why these people are being hired in our food department when we are worried about our safety as Americans, you know, and that’s something we all need to think about,” she said….

    The FBI did not returned Channel 4′s request of whether it’s involved.

    You know that if it had said something threatening to Muslims, the FBI would have been all over it in a nanosecond.
    =======
    AND

    (CBS) In this exclusive story, CBS News chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian reports the latest terror attack to America involves the possible use of poisons – simultaneous attacks targeting hotels and restaurants at many locations over a single weekend.

    A key Intelligence source has confirmed the threat as “credible.” Department of Homeland Security officials, along with members of the Department of Agriculture and the FDA, have briefed a small group of corporate security officers from the hotel and restaurant industries about it.

    CBSNews.com Report: Terror in the U.S.

    “We operate under the premise that individuals prepared to carry out terrorist acts are in this country,” said Dec. of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano on Dec. 6, 2010.

    The plot uncovered earlier this year is said to involve the use of two poisons – ricin and cyanide – slipped into salad bars and buffets.

    Of particular concern: The plotters are believed to be tied to the same terror group that attempted to blow up cargo planes over the east coast in October, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

    In online propaganda al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has praised the cargo attack, part of what it called “Operation Hemorrhage.”

    The propaganda says in part, “…attacking the enemy with smaller but more frequent operations” to “add a heavy economic burden to an already faltering economy.”

    Manuals and videos on jihadist websites explain how to easy it is to make both poisons.

    “Initially it would look very much like food poisoning,” said St. John’s University professor of pharmaceutical sciences Dr. Susan Ford.

    She showed how little of each poison could be fatal by putting a small amount of poison in cups.

    Armen Keteyian: Are these dosages enough to really harm someone or kill someone?

    Susan Ford: Yes, these are 250 milligrams and that is the fatal dose.

    Keteyian: So just that much sodium cyanide is enough to kill me?

    Ford: Yes, it is.

    That leads to a difficult debate: The need to inform the public without alarming it.

    Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said, “A threat you might feel is sufficiently specific and credible to tell the people who are professionally involved might not be specific or credible enough to tell the general public.”

    Chertoff says it’s important to let public health officials know that what looks like food poisoning could be a terrorist attack.

    On Monday Dept. of Homeland Security spokesman Sean Smith said, “We are not going to comment on reports of specific terrorist planning. However, the counterterrorism and homeland security communities have engaged in extensive efforts for many years to guard against all types of terrorist attacks, including unconventional attacks using chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear materials. Indeed, Al-Qa’ida has publicly stated its intention to try to carry out unconventional attacks for well over a decade, and AQAP propaganda in the past year has made similar reference.

    “Finally, we get reports about the different kinds of attacks terrorists would like to carry out that frequently are beyond their assessed capability.”

    The fact remains the government and hospitality industries are on alert.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/20/eveningnews/main7169266.shtml

  76. Hi Admin

    I have a comment held up in moderation because I have two links within it. Would you please release it? Thank you. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you!

  77. gonzotx
    December 25th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
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    I watched about a dozen similar Christmas light synchronization videos Christmas eve on Youtube. There’s some pretty good light display videos there.

  78. Betty
    December 25th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    “You write here as though it was Obama who the MSM loves. They will love who they are told to love. The “one” is the one that has the “game” to get himself elected and the immorality to betray all those who were bamboozled into electing him for the sake of those who “brung him”. And still think he has “game”, then again maybe he does. And, although I thought so a first, I don’t think it was Nancy and Harry who brung him. (It couldn’t be accomplished without them) per George Soros.
    ___________________________

    Your instincts are right on Betty. This just out @ 10pm tonight as Breaking News. Soros brought his puppet Obama to the seat of power. He couldn’t do it alone. He needed Nancy and Harry and The DNC and Congress to complete the onerous task. As we now realize- He HAS DONE IT!

    There is an expose coming out shortly on Soros. Where Soros unabashedly announces it is he that will control the media from here on. (as if we didn’t know or believe Soros is the rot from the top down that is using the presidency to destroy our way of life via the media and Obama.) I know many of you must be sick to death of hearing wbb, confloyd and I constantly beating the drum— “George Soros IS the Wizard behind Obama trashing our country and impovrishing Middle Class Americans for no other reason than, HE CAN.”

    Well, the sob is so cock-sure of himself, he is finally bellowing his power from the rooftops for the world to see and hear that HE and he alone is the Supreme Master engaged in destroying The United States of America and creating a European style PLUTOCRACY.
    _______________________

    Here is the beginning of the expose with many backup links in the link below posted @ the 11th hour this Christmas night:

    MEDIA MATTERS

    ‘Citizen Soros’ now targeting messenger

    Report documents move by ‘radical philanthropist’ to control message

    Posted: December 25, 2010
    10:00 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh

    For someone who once described himself as “some kind of god” and said that makes him feel comfortable, the scrutiny of a new report that looks into his increasing influence over the messengers in today’s world probably won’t have a personal impact.

    But whether it affects him or not, octogenarian billionaire George Soros’ funding of a media “monitor” that routinely attacks traditional and conservative media is becoming a focal point.

    The report by Matthew Vadum, editor of Organization Trends, is scheduled to be released by the Capital Research Center in January.

    “Like the protagonist in the classic Orson Welles movie ‘Citizen Kane,’ Soros can never have enough power. But unlike Charles Foster Kane, the haughty, imperious fictional media mogul, Soros views himself as much more than a mere leader,” the report says.

    “With a straight face he told reporters, ‘It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I BEGAN TO LIVE IT OUT,'” Vadum continued, citing Soros’ comments from 1993.

    It is the second major look at Soros since the election. The monthly Whistleblower (not wikileaks) magazine looked at the “evil emperor … the Empire’s shadowy and malevolent puppet-master” in its December issue.

    “Soros’ donation to Media Matters suggests that intimidating journalists who dare to question his vision is now a top priority,” the report said. “Come down on the wrong side of an issue and risk being labeled ignorant or evil by the smear website.”

    It was Soros himself who recently proclaimed himself a supporter of Media Matters as it works to “widely publicize” evidence regarding the challenge “Fox News poses to civil and informed discourse.”

    “Media Matters is one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News accountable for the false and misleading information they so often broadcast,” the report quoted Soros saying.

    Media Matters’ David Brock said his work load is large.

    “‘In recent months, Fox has allowed Glenn Beck’s show to become an out-of-control vehicle for the potential incitement of domestic terrorism,’ he said. ‘George Soros, a philanthropist of the highest integrity, unfortunately knows first-hand what it’s like to be grotesquely caricatured and flatly lied about on Fox. Media Matters is grateful that he has decided to lend his voice,'” the report cited him saying.

    (side note: FYI- Much of the information used on Fox was taken from the due diligence of wbb’s work below capturing the essence of Soros into 12 Chapters outlining Soros’ penchant for destroying the economies of countries and how Soros is targeting the US as the crowning glory notched on his already well worn, turgid belt.)

    h…. pumasunleashed.wordpress dot com/2009/11/05/blockbuster-obama%e2%80%99s-godfather/

    But the work by the organization has been “vicious,” according to Vadum.

    The report said that for “expressing his informed opinion” about the Tides Foundation, a pass-through for left-leaning wealthy to fund anonymously their favorite activities, Fox News host Glenn Beck was described by Media Matters senior fellow Eric Boehlert “as something approaching a murderer.”

    The site blamed Beck even for attacks such as a San Francisco case in which a man was accused of planning to shoot up a Tides office, Vadum said.

    “Is turnabout fair play? Recently a crazed shooter cited Media Matters as one of his inspirations,” Vadum wrote, referencing the Florida school board shooting by Clay Duke.

    “Did Boehlert’s rants push Clay Duke to act? According to Boehlert’s own logic, Media Matters has blood on its hands,” he said.

    Soros’ fingers and finances also are in the promotion of “left-wing” films such as “Better This World,” as well as projects at the Sundance Institute.

    The report documents how Soros acquired 2.6 million shares of Time Warner in 2006, obtained the DreamWorks SKG film library in 2006 for $900 million and bought into India’s Reliance Entertainment in 2008.

    He’s also helped finance various publishers and independent television and radio outlets.

    Criticizing America is “all in a day’s work for George Soros,” the report said. “And now he’s trying to control the media in America.”

    WND previously has reported on Soros’ apparent involvement in politics in Minnesota, where ex-comedian Al Franken won a U.S. Senate seat in 2008 in a hotly disputed recount.

    Also, WND reported when a Soros group mapped out the strategy for Barack Obama, suggesting he govern by executive order for the next two years.

    And among other issues, WND also reported when a Soros organization was linked to an effort to prevent observers from watching the 2010 election in Texas.

    The edition illuminated the heart and soul of the mysterious leftwing transformer of societies, revealing how he creates and financially sustains scores of influential and shockingly anti-American organizations, and seems dedicated to converting America into a European-style, government-controlled, socialist state.

    Vadum’s report documents how for a long time Soros’ has been buying up media properties and funding “left-leaning” websites and groups, many of which try to keep their ties hidden.

    Vadum cited Paul Steiger of Pro Publica, who told Investor’s Business Daily in 2009, “An unmitigated canard … one that has a goofy way of creeping into discourse from a variety of people who dislike something we have written – is that George Soros, the global billionaire, is behind our coverage. Soros has never given us a penny.”

    However, Vadum’s report noted that Pro Publica’s website acknowledged that Soros’ Open Society Foundation is a donor.

    The report also documents the extensive connections between Soros at the “fake media watchdog, Media Matters for America,” to which Soros recently donated $1 million.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=243169

  79. Sorry- nomobama. I didn’t mean to interrupt your posts with this long article. It took quite awhile to get the salient points highlighted. And at the time the blog was resting. Mea Culpa, my friend.. 🙁

  80. “…the heart and soul of the mysterious leftwing transformer of societies [Soros], revealing how he creates and financially sustains… anti-American organizations… dedicated to converting America into a European-style, government-controlled, socialist state.”
    *****

    Associating ‘anti-American’ with ‘European-style’ is the same as saying that America should never learn anything from the rest of the world.

    While it is true, as Bill Clinton said, that “there’s nothing wrong with America that can’t be cured by what’s right with America,” it is also true, as Bill (and Hillary) have also said, that we can learn from the rest of the world too. Bill said that with respect to our Robber Baron health care system, specifically citing Germany and France as examples to learn from.

    Furthermore, ‘European-style’ is equated here with ‘government-controlled’, and ‘government-controlled’ is intensified by the big bugaboo, ‘socialist’. This is just peddling the ‘libertarian’ thesis that we need less government, because government is innately bad because it makes laws and laws are bad because they limit our freedom.

    This is just simplistic thinking, with no understanding of what the role of government is, or should be, and no understanding of how laws are necessary to protect and extend our freedoms.

    In the marketplace in particular, the Repug religion for the past 30 years has been to de-regulate everything, operating simply on the above hypothesis that regulation is bad because it limits the free market. As Webster Tarpley says repeatedly, “the free market doesn’t exist. It’s a myth.” What he means is that, without regulation, everyone gets screwed, starting with the consumer, but then moving up to the small and medium-size businesses and ending with the larger corporations, only the most machiavellian of which will survive. The marketplace needs to be intelligently regulated, and government intervention (regulation, fiscal and monetary action) is beneficial.

    Our belief in unfettered freedoms is baseless, and we will be paying the price for this for a long time into the future unless we decide to take a look at how other countries, namely our European cousins, have come to grips with the 21st-century need to grow in a global economy while protecting not only their freedoms in the broadest sense of the term, ie freedom for the little guy and not just for the rich. That’s socialism, or the “third way”, and the longer we associate ‘anti-American’ with ‘socialism’, the longer will be our travails.

  81. I am glad to see that MSNBC is hitting the skids in ratings and Mathews is now reduced to an interupter of his guests to demean Hillary aand shower love and praise for Hussein his male love interest and idol.We will now refer to him as the
    “CHRIS TINGLE”.

    “DRAFT HILLARY” “IMPEACH THE CLONE TWO-TONE”

    BY ABM90 May all our Chrstmases be white.

  82. I am not shocked about the MSNBC Skid. The phone tees, overseas customer support, and online inability for a customer to talk to ANY one has developed this elites group in all organizations so that they are no longer in contact with their customer. You use to be able to write or call someone, and get an answer. The same was true in Politics.

    Now, many problems go unsolved, and customers begin turning away, as they feel no loyalty to a product they cannot resolve issues with. In addition, they look at their living standards and compare that to the CEO, and executives who get unrealistic bonuses for average job performances, which are in actuality the performances of people under them. How can the VP of customer relations perform in an outstanding manner, when all he gets is the results from canned survey that people choose to fill out. They have protected themselves against hearing the hard feedback, where the customer is truely angry, as they don’t know how to deal with it, and cannot deal with it. The political parties do th same thing. In other words they create their own realities. If you want to know the weakness of your organization you need to really deal with the people that are angry. It is those people that are telling you the truth, which is what you want to hear. CEOs instead surround themselves with yes people who have no idea what the customer or voter wants and needs because they have cut off the avenue of that information.

    Many in the corporate world think we have to put up with this, that the elasticity of Demand is inelastic. In other words, if they determine who we will vote for in the General election, we have to accept it or their words fall in line. This is true for many customers or voters. However, there is a significant portion whos Demand is elastic, even in Politics.

    In today’s world, feedback cut off is now taking the form of political blogs, and customer opinions or ratings found online. CEO opinions on what to produce on a TV show is not important to Advertisers, unless that opinion is showing high ratings on the shows they advertise. Unfortunately, those opinions are out of touch. As Fox’s audience grows, so does the amount of people who want to advertise there.

    The amazing thing about Fox is that thy really have always demonstrated a bias toward conservatives, regardless of their words. People have accepted that. What they have not accepted is the liberal bias of the other TV Stations. Their expectations for them was fair and balanced, and they feel betrayed.

    The result is the turning toward the TV channel they know to be bias, because they do not feel betrayed by them.

    I think that is kind of interesting.

  83. “‘European-style’ is equated here with ‘government-controlled’, and ‘government-controlled’ is intensified by the big bugaboo, ’socialist’. This is just peddling the ‘libertarian’ thesis that we need less government, because government is innately bad because it makes laws and laws are bad because they limit our freedom.”
    ________________________

    Where Soros is concerned, not equating it with the author’s generalizations of ‘socialist’, although to be accurate the author is correct. For example, Soros would like our finacial system, Bank protocols arranging mortgages for prospective customers, to mirror the Denmark system.

    Where Denmark’s banks customarily are partnered with their mortgage customer holding 10-15% of the initial mortgage amount. Soros volunteered this system at the beginning of the financial crisis. I doubt the sincerity of the ‘fix’ now that enough time has elapsed between the crisis and his announcement bringing to light his active participation in manipulating our democratic government through Obama’s Executive Orders-

    Soros probably got the idea of a co-presidency with Obama from the Bush-Cheney alliance, Cheney calling the shots through Bush for most of his presidency.

    Why Obama’s presidency feels like BushIII.

  84. Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 2:18 am
    JanH

    Here is the reason why the Palestinians are stalling the Peace process with Israel directly linked to Soros as the culprit. I accessed his new site called, A New America. anewamerica.net

    _____
    IMO, this is standard anti Israel fare……

  85. Bill Clinton To Campaign For Rahm Emanuel
    ________________________

    Why would he want to soil his reputation, muddy the waters and campaign for Rahm.

    Although, I am a big Clinton supporter and very much want Hillary in 2012, the Clintons are far from perfect in my eyes. I suppose that next, he will buddy up again with Bill Richardson.

  86. A great and accurate perspetive (imo) of where our government is taking us after Jan 1, 2011. Long- but worthwhile insights. [my comments]
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    Hailing 111th Congress, Obama prepares further shift to the right

    By Joseph Kishore
    24 December 2010

    As the 111th congressional session came to a close, the Obama administration and the US media have stepped up the propaganda offensive over the past two days to justify an even further shift to the right by the political establishment next year.

    The “narrative” being constructed takes the following form: The two years of the Democratic-controlled Senate and House of Representatives, along with the Obama administration, carried out historical social reforms on a scale not seen in decades. For some unexplained reason, [passing HCR ] these measures led to a defeat for the Democrats in the 2010 elections.

    Since the elections, and supposedly in response to popular pressure, Obama has shifted into a more “bipartisan” spirit, which has already produced fantastic results in the “lame-duck” session since the election.

    This eruption of self-congratulation was led by Obama himself at an afternoon press conference on Wednesday. The lame-duck session, the president declared, was “the most productive post-election period we have had in decades, and…it comes on the heels of the most productive two years that we have had in generations.”

    The overriding theme of the conference was Obama’s pledge to work with Republicans more closely in the coming year. As a Time magazine article noted (under the headline, “Obama’s Lame-Duck Comeback: Hello, Bipartisanship”), “In his 34-minute press conference on Wednesday [Obama] used the words ‘common ground’ three times, the word ‘bipartisan’ twice, the phrase ‘other side of the aisle’ twice, ‘came together’ three times and ‘across party lines’ twice.”

    “A lot of folks in this town,” the president declared, “predicted that after the midterm elections, Washington would be headed for more partisanship and gridlock. And instead this has been a season of progress for the American people.”

    By “American people,” Obama evidently means the most wealthy sections of the population, which will benefit enormously from the principle measure adopted by the Congress over the past month: the extension of the Bush administration’s tax cuts for the rich. The top income bracket will get on average $70,000 out of the deal, with the wealthiest netting much more. The bottom 40 percent of the population will actually see their taxes increase.

    The New York Times added its reflections in an article published Thursday. In “111th Congress, One for the History Books,” Carl Hulse and David Herzenhorn hailed the actions of the Congress’ two years, including what it described as a “landmark health care law and a sweeping overhaul of Wall Street rules.”

    The authors added, “As many Democrats cast their last votes on Wednesday, top lawmakers said that most of them considered their defeat [in the 2010 elections] well worth the price considering the legislative victories they wrote into the history books, accomplishments that have prompted comparisons to the progressive glory days of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal and Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society.” [very misleading statement]

    The Times was not alone in this bout of mythmaking.

    The Christian Science Monitor published a column extolling the “six big achievements of a surprisingly ‘do something’ Congress” (the initial stimulus package, the health care legislation, financial regulation, the extension of tax cuts, an end to “don’t ask, don’t tell” in the military, and the passage of the START treaty).

    Reuters declared that “never before has a US Congress done more and been less liked. ” Bloomberg News added its own cumbersome headline: “No Congress Since ‘60s Makes as Much Law as 111th Affecting Most Americans.”

    Comparisons of the past two years to the New Deal period (which established among other things a whole network of federal jobs programs, as well as Social Security) and the Great Society programs (Medicare and Medicaid) are ludicrous. Far from introducing a new era of social reform, the measures passed under the leadership of the Democratic Party have initiated a major attack on the reforms implemented in the 1930s and 1960s. [exactly!]

    The principal aim of the health care bill, passed under the guidance of Obama, was to cut corporate expenditures on health coverage, along with federal spending, beginning with Medicare. It mandates that individuals purchase private insurance, handing millions of captive customers to the giant insurance companies.

    As for what is invariably described in the media as a “sweeping overhaul” of Wall Street, this measure was dictated by the interest of the banks, doing nothing to alter their overwhelming power over the financial system and American society as a whole. In the form of a “resolution authority,” the bill institutionalizes government bailouts of the banks.

    As for the initial “stimulus” measure passed in the early months of the Obama presidency, it was crafted to prevent a complete collapse of the capitalist system while ensuring that the wealth of the corporate and financial elite would remain untouched. In the face of persistent mass unemployment, the administration and Congress have rejected any government-hiring program, insisting that the “free market” is the engine of job growth.

    These policies have made possible an unprecedented rebound in corporate profits. The nationwide attack on wages and benefits was given the lead by the administration and the Congressional leadership. The forced bankruptcy of General Motors and Chrysler last year was predicated on a massive attack on auto workers.

    Coming to power after the departure of the Bush administration—the most hated government in US history—the Democrats oversaw the expansion of war, including Obama’s “surge” in Afghanistan and Pakistan. They have intensified the attack on democratic rights, including the reauthorization of the Patriot Act. Democrats in the Senate declined to use their subpoena power to carry out any investigations of the criminal actions of the Bush administration, including the use of torture and the expansion of domestic spying. [thanks to Obama’s corrupt AG, Holder] Guantanamo Bay and the network of US-run gulags remain in place, a fact underscored this week when Congress rejected any funding for closing the prison in Cuba. This was quickly followed by reports of a planned executive order to institutionalize indefinite detention without charge.

    As for the “lame-duck” session, aside from the tax cuts, Congress passed in its closing days a measure aimed at cementing support for the Democratic Party among better off sections of the middle class committed to identity politics: the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” in the military. This was followed by the ratification of the START nuclear arms treaty with Russia, a key component of US foreign policy strategy.

    The gushing in the media and political circles over this record is a prelude for even more rightwing policies. In another article published in the New York Times on Thursday, the newspaper makes clear that for the liberal establishment the Democrats’ debacle in the 2010 midterm elections—a product mainly of mass disillusionment with the Obama administration—is seen as a welcome opportunity to escalate attacks on the working class.

    In “A New Chance for Bipartisanship, All Posturing Aside,” Matt Bai raised the hope that, as a result of the elections, “President Obama and newly empowered Republicans may actually find more to talk about in the next Congress than they did in the last.” The large Democratic majorities over the past two years “made Mr. Obama a powerful president when it came to enacting his agenda,” but “probably made it almost impossible for him to realize his stated goal of building cross-party coalitions with Republicans in Congress.”

    The newspaper reports, “White House aides are hoping that the bipartisan tax accord reached with Republicans this month will form the basis for similar agreements on deficit reduction next year. Mr. Obama has already called for freezes in discretionary spending and federal salaries, and the feeling inside the White House is that if the president can establish that he is serious about reining in federal spending, Republicans will have no choice but to negotiate over how much and how to do it.’

    The chairmen of Obama’s bipartisan budget deficit commission have already released recommendations for major cuts in Social Security and other federal programs—extending the measures already introduced as part of the health care overhaul. These are accompanied by plans for a “reform” of the tax code to significantly reduce taxes on corporations and the wealthy.

    Among the other policies to be implemented in the next session, the newspaper cites “education reform”—that is, an escalation of the administration’s attack on public education. This is “an issue that divides the president from a lot of his allies because of his support for performance-based teacher pay and testing for both students and teachers,” the Times writes.

    The mythmakers in the mass media can do little to cloak the essential lesson of the past two years: that the entire political system, including the Democratic and Republican parties, is under the iron grip of the corporate and financial aristocracy, [one George Soros] allowing no expression of the interests of the vast majority of the population.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/cong-d24.shtml
    ___________________

    If we were waiting for the Republicans to start investigations related to Obama’s citizenship or other crimes he may have committed- those pure thoughts of justice for the American people, as far as I can see, are off the table. If anything, Republicans will continue with their Neocon agenda of a ‘New World Order’ and why Krauthammer has suddenly found Obama and Soros are his new best friends.

  87. Mrs. Smith: Further to my rant above, and quoting Tarpley whom both of us seem to respect highly, this is what he said in last week’s podcast:

    Referring to the website of William Domhoff (U of CA Santa Cruz) and his book “Who Rules America?” covering over 50 years of updated economic statistics, the latest statistics being from 2007, he says:

    “In terms of wealth (not income), the top 1% in the US owns 40% of the assets (actually 37-38%) whereas the bottom 40% owns 1% (actually 0.3%), representing income over decades or centuries.

    American exceptionalism? What’s exceptional about this is nothing good…. The ability to pass from one income group to another… has been declining for decades as the New Deal ran out of steam in the 1960s, the degree of social mobility – that is, your ability to better yourself, to make this “Land of Opportunity” “American Dream” stuff a reality – that has been completely swept away….

    If you’re born in a low-income family, you have a 1% chance of reaching the top 5% of income level – income is easier to do than the asset side…. Whereas, if you’re born rich, you have a 22% chance of being in the top 5% of income. If you’re in the middle, you don’t have much security because you can just as easily end up in the bottom 20% as anywhere else.

    So what you’ve got coming out of this is obviously a permanent underclass of people who have been living in poverty for 3 to 4 generations, really since the WWII boom ended in the ‘40s, these long-term stagnation tendencies have been there… The origin of the inner city ghetto really comes after the Eisenhower recession of 1957-58, with violence in the inner cities…. A permanent underclass concentrated among minorities, black and Latino in the inner cities but also in the southern mountains, in rural America, poor whites have been a very large and perhaps larger group than the combined black-Latino poor.

    So the US now has a permanent underclass, and once you’re in that bottom 10-20%, it’s almost impossible to get out. In terms of American exceptionalism, here’s what’s exceptional:

    The following societies (countries) have a greater chance of upward social mobility, upward socio-economic mobility, than the US:

    France is more mobile.
    Germany is more mobile.
    Sweden is more mobile.
    Canada is more mobile.
    Finland is more mobile.
    Norway is more mobile.
    Denmark is more mobile.
    The US is at the bottom of the list Except For Great Britain, notoriously the most stratified, the most aristocratic, the most oligarchic, hierarchical in Europe [if not the world], still saves the US from the ignominy of being in absolute last place.

    So, you want to talk about American exceptionalism? Again, it’s a great idea: Do something exceptional. You want to talk the talk, you’d better walk the walk. Be exceptional. Now, what we’ve done is just the opposite….

    The top 20% owns 85% of the assets, the bottom 80% own therefore 15% of America’s assets. And Obama and the Republicans and their Tea Party dupes come forward and say ‘We demand more tax cuts for the rich. This estate tax has got to end. ?! We’re living in a madhouse, ladies and gentlemen…”

    Tarpley has good resources and draws the right conclusions, even if he has the gall to read products of the Center for American Democracy (that’s Soros, right?).

  88. Article on Obama shake-up after Xmas

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/us/politics/24obama.html
    “Obama is Set to Shuffle His Staff”

    Guess they have finally gotten an inkling that the White House is completely out of touch as Axelrod says “there’s an advantage to bringing in folks who have a fresh set of senses — smell, touch and feel — about what’s going on out there.” Wonder if they are going to like what those new folks say…

    Also, it appears we are going to see alot of Obama out and about next year trying to convince voters that he knows best–the article says Obama will “begin detaching himself more from Congress and spending more time making his case directly to the American people.” I hope the overexposure just keeps pushing more and more voters away.

    The New York Times refers to all this as happening in Obama’s “first term”–God forbid anyone have any doubts he will be reelected..typical Obot thinking…

  89. “Tarpley has good resources and draws the right conclusions, even if he has the gall to read products of the Center for American Democracy (that’s Soros, right?).”
    _________________

    How can Soros be ignored. He has been a major player in the creation and destruction of world markets for decades. When the phrase “American Exceptionalism” was mentioned here, I believe, was in the context of our well known participation helping countries in distress sending our native sons and daughters to mitigate catastropic damage done through natural disasters or for humanitarian reasons.

    “The US is at the bottom of the list Except For Great Britain, notoriously the most stratified, the most aristocratic, the most oligarchic, hierarchical in Europe [if not the world], still saves the US from the ignominy of being in absolute last place.”
    ________________________

    The US was and still is the World’s only Super Power for decades up until the year 2000 when the presidency was handed to GWB. Which was the milestone, imo, of the erosion of the policies accomplished by the Clinton presidency.

  90. ” appears we are going to see alot of Obama out and about next year trying to convince voters that he knows best–the article says Obama will “begin detaching himself more from Congress and spending more time making his case directly to the American people.” ”

    Yeah, because those 60 “townhalls” he had lying about DeathCare sure did convince a whole lot of voters to see things his way /sarc

    and I’m sure calling people evil, doctors greedy and dishonest, and people running succeessful companies evil, repubs hostage takers, and everyone who doesn’t fall in this category a RACIST sure will convince a whole hell a lot of people to see things his commie and marxist way.

    Maybe those Reagan quotes in his teleprompter might help. / sarc

  91. and frankly if Waffles thinks this is about repubs, he truely is dumber than I orginally thought. The Tea Party is about fiscal, constutional conservative, american ideas, they are not repub ideas….. a company fails, NO bailouts with taxpayer monies… if they are successful on their own, more power to them. Smaller limited federal govt.
    yes, this may cause pain in the short term, but rather deal with problems now rather than keep bailing out everything and everyone and be a completely bankcrupt country beholden to China.

    if they repubs bend on that, then they too will be kicked out, and as for Waffles, I know of NO small business owner who trusts one damn word of Waffles, they have no plans of expanding, no hiring, nothing… they are essentially just hunkering down for the crap that is going to be said about them and the policies to follow in 2012.
    Oh yes, the huge bigger companies have lobbying power to get exemptions for the crappy laws made for the rest of small businesses, they have compliance offices etc. But enterpeneurs who are small business owners, they will take no chance in Hell of expanding or growing a business in this country under this Waffles.

    all the while, other countries like China see this and are taking full advantage of this.

  92. “all the while, other countries like China see this and are taking full advantage of this.”
    _____________________

    Exactly, tim. Keep everyone in the room fighting opening up opportunity for others to take advantage of the chaos.

  93. Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Mrs.Smith — read this and cry for our beautiful country.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/charting-2010-part-1-key-jobs-charts-2010

    “After a year of endless propaganda surrounding the imaginary jobs boom, which as we have been pointing out for months, is nothing more than the permanent transfer of full time jobs to part time, perhaps the one chart that captures the full effect of said “recovery” is the comparison of number of employees added by China’s sweatshop behemoth FoxConn, which at 300,000 in 2010 was just under one third of all non-farm payrolls added by the entire United States in the same year! In other words, this year one company added nearly one third the total number of jobs as the entire world’s greatest economy.”

  94. Thank you:

    Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    I am resting and fasting today so I am going to read and follow your links and educate my self. I already looked up PLUTOCRACY and found that although I don’t know the term, when trying to express an idea that your word plutocracy would best describe I think things like: they want to take us back to pre Teddy Roosevelt, they want to dance at the Ritz while we do the dishes, they want us to pull our forelocks and limit our remarks to “yes me lord, yes me lady”. Within a generation of their ascendancy they will be telling us that the natural state of human-kind is slavery and those who rule us rule by divine right – and what is more organized religion will probably go along with them.

    If you find echos of John Locke in there it is because I listened to Anna Simone read “Two Treatises on Civil Government” by John Locke. Which sounds dead boring but isn’t at all. That is because Anna Simone’s intellectual grasp of what John Locke is saying makes it seem he, himself is sitting across from you explaining his thoughts.

    I confess I love listening to a well read book, essay, but a lot goes into the term well read. I find I understand what is being said so much better. I wish you guys would make a recording of your Soros research report. I start it and get interrupted, I even printed it out and still end up putting it down. Driving somewhere is my best listening time and I have a 4 hour round trip coming up in January. How selfish of me, huh, maybe I should ask one of you to ride along and just tell me. I’m not lazy honest.

    Here is the, what I think, funny story of how I learned that about myself. I was in college and took a class called “Women Mystics” as the final we needed to write an essay discussing one of the mystics we covered. The mystic I wanted so to write about was Marguerite Porete who was french. She was a Begine and was burned at the stake for her book “Mirror of Simple Souls”. In the beginning I think I felt some kind of connection to her beyond us both being women (I so want to write and both burned at the stake, just to inject humor). Begine sounded kind of Irish too, even though she was French. So feeling more then self righteous (picture me fanning my self to try to cool goodness welling up in me). What is a word for a foolish innocent biting off way more than she can chew? Or maybe pride comes before a fall. Any how I started to read “Mirror of Simple Souls”. Never got past the first two pages. I read, and re read for two whole study session and could not understand what that woman was saying. A woman burned at the stake for her writing. What ever it took I had to comprehend her message. Next I tried diagramming her sentences – no dice. I spent another whole study session and in complete frustration then finally I sat back and thought ‘give me a match”.

    I did my essay on Julian of Norwich.

  95. Mrs. Smith: “The US was and still is the World’s only Super Power for decades up until the year 2000 when the presidency was handed to GWB. Which was the milestone, imo, of the erosion of the policies accomplished by the Clinton presidency.”

    Perfectly true. America is exceptional only in light of some exceptional status or acts. The invasion of Iraq was certainly exceptional, considering that 130 nations voted against it, but it’s an exceptionalism I don’t want to have any part of.

  96. Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 2:18 am
    JanH

    Here is the reason why the Palestinians are stalling the Peace process with Israel directly linked to Soros as the culprit. I accessed his new site called, A New America. anewamerica.net

    ———————

    I disagree with so much of that article. It seems to me if Abbas and his people are ahead in the game right now, it is because they stumbled into it. Their mistakes far outway their successes. Just the same, I think the author gives too much credit to them and far too much credit to obama’s people.

    Barack often goes off and says things that annoy Israelis and Bibi. I don’t pay much attention to him. Further to this, The Arabs will not recognize Israel’s right to existence but expect Israel to give them the kitchen sink and even more.

    America’s pulling back on negotiations should have happened months ago. The flip flop and anti-Israel rhetoric that bambi insisted upon was not going to get Israel on-side, especially all the snubs to Bibi. They pulled back because they made a mess of it all. They tried to bargain with the Palestinians and promised results they had no right to promise.

    So in this case, I agree with Carol’s opinion up above.

  97. Carol and JanH-

    The point was which I thought was obvious, although apprently not, was whatever the grivences are about territory is constantly inflamed by the Soros agenda as said in the article, his new pro-Palestinian website thats all.

  98. Also, it appears we are going to see alot of Obama out and about next year trying to convince voters that he knows best–the article says Obama will “begin detaching himself more from Congress and spending more time making his case directly to the American people.” I hope the overexposure just keeps pushing more and more voters away.
    ******************
    Is it even possible to see more of Obama next year? He’s on tv everyday and Fox and c-span dutifully broadcast it live. So far, the over exposure doesn’t seem to have made a dent. We can only hope his teleprompter goes down and he says something really really stupid.

  99. “Perfectly true. America is exceptional only in light of some exceptional status or acts. The invasion of Iraq was certainly exceptional, considering that 130 nations voted against it, but it’s an exceptionalism I don’t want to have any part of.”
    ______________

    So, in your minds eye, one act by the US, which their citizens didn’t approve of, removes the exceptionalism title from our country in lieu of the thousands of exceptional acts we have provided to countries woldwide. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

  100. Thanks for good sense, Jeswezy!

    ===========

    jeswezey
    December 26th, 2010 at 6:10 am

    “…the heart and soul of the mysterious leftwing transformer of societies [Soros], revealing how he creates and financially sustains… anti-American organizations… dedicated to converting America into a European-style, government-controlled, socialist state.”
    *****

    Associating ‘anti-American’ with ‘European-style’ is the same as saying that America should never learn anything from the rest of the world.

    [ Bill said we can learn from the rest of the world ] with respect to our Robber Baron health care system, specifically citing Germany and France as examples to learn from.

    ==============

    More recently we might learn from Australia and NZ who have very complete, free health care systems. And they wear cowboy hats and speak English, so that makes them okay!

  101. Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    ——————-

    Yep. 🙂 But I had to go and disseminate the meaning of that dumb article…lol…

  102. Before you put down other European countries and how they run their societies, watch one or more of the c-span Q & A programs that have been broadcast from London where British politicians and commentators are interviewed. The British system of elections are so much saner than ours. It is limited to 4 weeks and the money allowed to be spent is strictly limited. The interviews are being run on Sat and Sun nights at 8 pm and 11 pm Eastern. The recent one of the first black female ever elected to the House of Commons (Diane Abbott elected in the 1980’s and she is still serving) are almost exclusively about the electoral system. I don’t want to argue idealogy with others on here, just listen to the election rules. That is what America needs to keep big money out. Tonight will be a recap of the British interviews by Brian Lamb.
    http://www.q-and-a.org/Program/?ProgramID=1318

  103. Sounds like what HIllary in 2007-8 called ‘the Bush trap door’, meaning that a middle class family who got hit with trouble (health crisis, job/s loss) could land in severe poverty and never get out.

    Very interesting approach here, worth exploring further.

    ================

    If you’re born in a low-income family, you have a 1% chance of reaching the top 5% of income level – income is easier to do than the asset side…. Whereas, if you’re born rich, you have a 22% chance of being in the top 5% of income. If you’re in the middle, you don’t have much security because you can just as easily end up in the bottom 20% as anywhere else.

  104. A “shake-up” will not save him. It will give him six months reprieve and that is hardly enough. It will take the focus off him however briefly, and give big media a chance to wallow in their own bullshit about what a great leader he is to surround himself with such a talented group of people. But it will produce no lasting effect.

    The bottom line is he must govern, and he has not aptitude whatsoever in that area. The endless campaign will get you only so far. One could list many problems which preclude governing success, but two of them are paramount.

    First, he has lacks the instinct to govern. His instinct is just the opposite–to avoid risk and responsibility. We have seen more than half a dozen examples. As a result his wife and Jarrett appear to be making many of the governing decisions while he effectively zones out. And their instincts are wholly insufficient to get the job done. As a matter of fact, many of their instincts are borderline evil and racist. But we digress.

    Second, there is no unity of command. How could there be when the nation is facing a possible nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula, UN Secretary Rice refuses to coordinate with the State Department and the Secretary of Defense, and Obama fails to call her on the carpet for it. Everyone just does their own thing. Trust me, I have seen this model before. It is a formula for disaster for sure, not for maybe.

    By the latter half of the year however there will be more bad news on the economic front and he will be forced to make further cuts. That will meet with strong disapproval. And because he is not trusted by more than half the population, his pathetic attempts to justify this belt tightening in the wake of his own spending largesse will go down like a mouth full of grass burrs. Brand Obama cannot make the transition to brand scrooge. He is all wrong for the role. And all his instincts tell him the same thing, i.e. box office poison.

    As for Hillary, she has been looking for an exit strategy from this dysfunctional administration for some time now. In fact, Bill’s health was mentioned as one possible reason, hence it is hardly surprising that we would hear whispers of that now. The real reason is different. Big media and the left wing blogs will attribute this to wiki leaks disclosures, but that is quite simply a lie, in an unending stream of lies which they promote Obama. The real reason is she cannot be effective in that environment for the reasons stated above. And whenever that is the case, the smart executive leaves the organization lest his or her reputation be brought down by their incompetence. Despite his heart condition, Bill may do some work in this benighted administration. I wish he would not, particularly in view of his health, but this is one way to further his own legacy and to prevent big media from trying to turn Hillary into a scapegoat, which would be their natural instinct.

  105. tim
    December 26th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    I did review the link you posted and agree- China is making hay while the sun shines.

    Over the holiday weekend, speaking with friends I see occasionaly over the years, most of them, former union employees, are applying for government jobs. It seems the government has taken a turn for hiring out of work union employees from the private sector, union electricians, carpenters, plumbers, opening government position. Statistics bear out the recent surge in government employment.

    Since Obama took office he has bloaded government hiring over 177,000 plus employees and still growing. Needless to say when you hear the government is hiring the last thing you think of would be vocational jobs which seems to be a stealth avenue for permanently a plan for union busting.

  106. Er, the list referred to here is a list of countries where it is difficult to get from low income to middle or high income.

    The following societies (countries) have a greater chance of upward social mobility, upward socio-economic mobility, than the US:
    France is more mobile.
    Germany is more mobile.
    Sweden is more mobile.
    Canada is more mobile.
    Finland is more mobile.
    Norway is more mobile.
    Denmark is more mobile.

    “The US is at the bottom of the list Except For Great Britain, notoriously the most stratified, the most aristocratic, the most oligarchic, hierarchical in Europe [if not the world], still saves the US from the ignominy of being in absolute last place.”

    =================

    The list above has nothing to do with being a ‘super-power’. If anything, there’s an inverse correlation. Countries that haven’t gone in for wars lately, seem to be doing better than we are.

  107. Is it even possible to see more of Obama next year? He’s on tv everyday and Fox and c-span dutifully broadcast it live. So far, the over exposure doesn’t seem to have made a dent. We can only hope his teleprompter goes down and he says something really really stupid.
    ——————
    But who will listen to him? He could be on the air 24-7 and it would make no difference. When someone is not trusted whatever they say is not trusted either. It is seen for what it is–propaganda.

  108. “More recently we might learn from Australia and NZ who have very complete, free health care systems. And they wear cowboy hats and speak English, so that makes them okay!”
    _______________________

    Yes, we should. Former Australian Prime Minister John Howard told the media that immigrants should adapt to Australian culture, language and beliefs or leave the country. It also claims that Howard toldMuslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law that they should get out of Australia.

    http://www.watchmenonthewalls.com/issue498.html

  109. As for Hillary, she has been looking for an exit strategy from this dysfunctional administration for some time now. In fact, Bill’s health was mentioned as one possible reason, hence it is hardly surprising that we would hear whispers of that now. The real reason is different. Big media and the left wing blogs will attribute this to wiki leaks disclosures, but that is quite simply a lie, in an unending stream of lies which they promote Obama.
    **************************
    yes, this happened on one of the Sunday morning talk shows today. I was switching channels so didn’t register who said it, but one of the pundits said the Wikileaks had fatally damaged hillary Clinton. The host questioned the statement but no one argued against it. They’re flinging the propaganda.

  110. JanH
    December 26th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    ______________________

    YAY! Good! 🙂

  111. Read Biden’s Lips: New Taxes In 2013

    Vice President Joe Biden, bless his heart, is promising that there’s going to be a tax hike (including one on small businesses) in 2013. This, despite the fact that that the Republicans used their 58/42 minority in the Senate and 256/179 minority in the House to somehow prevent the current ruling party from moving ahead on the promised tax hikes: no doubt the President will make a speech and shine the light of his countenance upon the 112th Congress, thus causing them to tremble and flee the righteous Hope-and-Change of the Lightworker. Or the President will pout, which will probably have roughly the same effect.

    VP Biden also promised that the administration would be hiking the death tax, speculated that the next post-DADT repeal step for the White House would be addressing the ’so-called’ DOMA (although Biden apparently neglected to mention why he voted for it in the first place, just like a majority of his party’s Senate caucus), and walked back the White House’s walkback on Biden’s recent unilateral declaration that we’d be out of Afghanistan by 2014. Biden then ritually slew a baby harp seal wrapped in the American flag on national television; the Vice President managed to gouge out the heart with his bare hands and offer it up to President Obama before somebody managed to switch to commercial.

    Seriously: why do they let this man out without a keeper?

    Moe Lane (crosspost)

  112. BCL:

    “but one of the pundits said the Wikileaks had fatally damaged hillary Clinton. The host questioned the statement but no one argued against it. They’re flinging the propaganda.”
    _________________

    Absolutely- and they are going to blow that statement all out of propotion as they did for the Bosnia incident on St Patrick’s Day-

  113. Tim-

    A shovel ready job is coming up for us soon. The predicted snowstorm in starting to materialize here at home. Boston and where I am are in for 24″ to 30″ of snow overnight into tomorrow am. Also predicting power outtages due to 40 mph turbulent winds.

  114. End of life counseling provision kept quiet
    By Robert Pear

    The New York Times
    DispatchPolitics
    DispatchPolitics.com

    WASHINGTON – When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health-care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.

    Under the new policy, outlined in Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance patient directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.

    Congressional supporters of the new policy, though pleased, have kept quiet. They fear provoking another furor like the one in 2009 when Republicans seized on the idea of end-of-life counseling to argue that the Democrats’ bill would allow the government to cut off care for the critically ill.

    The final version of the health-care legislation, signed into law by President Barack Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover “voluntary advance care planning,” to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit.

    Under the rule, doctors can provide information to patients on how to prepare an “advance directive,” stating how aggressively they wish to be treated if they are so sick that they cannot make health-care decisions for themselves.

    While the new law does not mention advance-care planning, the Obama administration has been able to achieve its policy goal through the regulation-writing process, a strategy that could become more prevalent in the next two years as the president deals with a strengthened Republican opposition in Congress.

    In this case, the administration said research shows the value of end-of-life planning.

    “Advance care planning improves end-of-life care and patient and family satisfaction, and reduces stress, anxiety and depression in surviving relatives,” the administration said in the preamble to the Medicare regulation, quoting research published this year in the British Medical Journal.

    Much more at:
    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2010/12/26/copy/end-of-life-counseling-provision-kept-quiet.html

  115. The writers call this a disconnect, but it is symptomatic of a much greater problem: no unity of command which leaves everyone free to say and do their own thing.
    ————————-

    President
    As Reports Swirl on Changes in Obama’s Cabinet, Gibbs Says No Big Changes Coming

    Published December 26, 2010
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    AFP

    Sept. 10: White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs confers with President Obama Senior Adviser David Axelrod in the White House.
    WASHINGTON — Another disconnect between two White House spokesmen who are giving conflicting answers to coming changes in the Obama administration.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday that Americans shouldn’t look for any big changes in President Obama’s Cabinet as the new year gets under way.

    But two days earlier, senior adviser David Axelrod said “significant changes” will be announced after the president returns from his vacation in Hawaii.

    “This is a bubble. It’s been an intense couple of years, and there’s an advantage to bringing in folks who have a fresh set of senses — smell, touch and feel — about what’s going on out there,” Axelrod told The New York Times in an article published Thursday.

    Officials have already announced big departures from the economic team — former Council of Economic Advisers chief Christina Romer left already, and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers is headed out shortly after the new Congress convenes. Jacob Lew has already replaced Peter Orszag as head of the Office of Management and Budget.

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    “I don’t expect quite honestly big changes. I think we’ve had a very capable and good Cabinet that has helped move the president’s agenda forward,” he said.

    Elsewhere, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a holdover from the Bush administration, has been very clear about his intention to leave in 2011.

    The Washington Examiner reported Saturday that outgoing New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson could succeed Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. Citing “numerous sources” saying Richardson may replace Clinton and wants a job in the Obama administration and Clinton may be interested in taking a break, the paper noted Richardson’s recent “unofficial” trip to Pyongyang to try to ease tensions between the North and South Korea.

    Richardson said Friday that he twice briefed the administration since his return.

    Gibbs and Axelrod are also expected to shift roles. Axelrod is leaving the White House to gin up the president’s re-election campaign, while Gibbs may move to another role

  116. Gibbs is one of the WH staff who is rumored to be leaving or moving and the WH press corps keep asking him if it’s true, but he keeps denying it. Maybe he doesn’t know he is leaving.

  117. OT
    PHOENIX — Bristol Palin, the 20-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin, has bought a five-bedroom house in Maricopa, a modest community south of Phoenix, setting off a flurry of speculation as to exactly what her plans — and those of her famous mother — are for the desert dwelling.

    The Palin family, which calls Wasilla, Alaska, home, offered no comment. But the sale certainly created plenty of buzz in Maricopa, where for-sale signs are everywhere and celebrity buyers are rare.

    “That a Dancing With the Stars phenom by the name Palin would invest there is a bolt of lightning for the housing industry there,” said Jason Rose, a publicist in nearby Scottsdale.

    Edward Farrell, Maricopa’s vice mayor and a fourth-generation resident, gave Todd Palin, Bristol Palin’s father, a tour of Maricopa earlier in the year and was under the impression that he was looking for a house for the entire family.

    “I left the meeting thinking that maybe he and Sarah were looking for a place to live,” said Farrell, who was surprised when he learned that Bristol Palin was listed as the buyer.

    Property records from Pinal County show that Palin bought a brown stucco house in the Cobblestone Farms development several weeks ago for $172,000 in cash. The price was not bad considering the house has 3,900 square feet and a three-car garage and sold for almost $330,000 four years ago.

    The house went into foreclosure in January and was bought by investors from North Dakota for $137,200. They spruced it up for resale.

    “I’m not sure why she wanted to buy that home, but we are real happy for her,” Michael Smith, who owned the house with his wife, told The Arizona Republic. “She seems like a nice girl. We’re excited for her.”

    Farrell said Cobblestone Farms happened to be the same neighborhood he lives in. “It’s not about glitz and glamour, but about quality of life,” he said. “I think she bought in the best neighborhood that Maricopa has to offer.”

    Maricopa is nearly an hour’s drive from the fashionable communities of Scottsdale and Paradise Valley, home to most of the Phoenix area’s well-known residents, including former Vice President Dan Quayle.

    An article in The New York Times called Maricopa a “boomtown mirage” in 2008 as tract home after tract home began to go into foreclosure. A real- estate website notes that Palin’s new neighborhood has a community park and a swimming pool and is “an easy walk to Ace Hardware and several eateries.”
    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2010/12/26/palins-daughter-buys-phoenix-home.html?sid=101

  118. “But who will listen to him? He could be on the air 24-7 and it would make no difference. When someone is not trusted whatever they say is not trusted either. It is seen for what it is–propaganda.”

    wbboei, you nailed it. Its propoganda, that’s all I hear and when I even speak with people who were conned into voting for him, they tell me that’s what they hear as well– the trust is gone and never comning back, its all just pure bullchit propoganda, American are yearning for straight talk, yes America is in trouble, no more bullchit, straight talk. This is why people trust Hillary, this is why people trust Sarah. The Dems I know ask me how I can trust Sarah, and the repubs I know ask me how I can trust Hillary, I see in both of them serving America and her interests with a servants heart, that is why I trust both these women. Do I agree with both women on everything, heck no. I am a constitutional conservative, but I was also a JFK democrat my entire voting life, that party now no longer exists.

    As for Waffles, don’t trust a damn word he says, not one word! as you so correctly wrote, propoganda only works when people actually believe it and don’t realise its propoganda. Just like Triangulation only works when people don’t realise its happening, and with Waffles he will not be able to convince people he is doing what Bill did, Bill was a conservative democrat from a red state with a proven record, Waffles has a book extoling the virtues of marxism, refuses to note American exceptionalism,calls the US Constitution “fundamentally flawed”, we know where he really stands no matter what his teleprompter tells him to say.

  119. Mrs. Smith
    December 26th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    LOL. “shovel ready” jobs, but at 24 inches, may need one of those snow blowers.

    Oh my. Please stay warm, I just heard on the weather channel that all the planes in NYC are going to be stopped, I am guessing Logan airport in Boston may do the same, this storm sounds like a very serious storm. Sounds like a very big deal, get all your groceries done for the week.

  120. There is a book which I strongly commend to your attention, which explains the Obama phenomenon. It is written by an excellent cultural anthropologist named Jean Lipman-Bluemen. The name of the book is The Allure of Toxic Leaders: Why We Follow Destructive Bossess and Corrupt Politicians, and How We Can Survive Them

    The writer teaches us that toxic leaders “first charm but then manipulate, mistreat, undermine, and ultimately leave their followers worse off than when they found them. Yet many of these followers hang on. I do not speak merely of the leader’s immediate entourage — the leader’s close-in staff and advisors. I am speaking also of the larger mass of supporters (employees, constituents, volunteers) who only glimpse their toxic leader through a glass darkly — perchance through a window of the executive suite or on the television screen. More surprisingly perhaps, even those groups charged with keeping leaders under the microscope and on the straight and narrow — THE MEDIA and boards of directors — fall under they sway.”

    Location: LOV X: Leadership and Women
    Date: 10/22/2004

    Lipman-Blumen discovered in Ernest Becker’s writings a rich resource for understanding these patterns of mass psychology. Destructive leaders hold power because they are allowed and even encouraged to do so by their followers. We turn to leaders to keep us safe, to give meaning to our lives, and to help us maintain the illusion that life is manageable and under someone’s control. But the price for this illusion may be a loss of freedom and authentic experience. In extreme cases, the price may amount to immense suffering or even annihilation, as the history of Nazi Germany teaches us. Despite mounting evidence to the contrary, we may continue to believe that we are the “chosen” ones and that our loyalty to the leader protects us from the threatening “Other.” Our identification with the leader allows us feel that we are at the center of the action and that what we do and say is important. All this can lead to a kind of heady exhilaration and feelings of invincibility. Leaders themselves often buy into the myth of their own invincibility, which we saw in Bush. I submit those same fatal tendencies can be seen in Obama.

  121. In an interview with Climate Progress, Dr. Kevin Trenbath said:

    “For every one degree Fahrenheit increase in sea temperature, the water holding capacity for the atmosphere goes up by 4%. And since the 1970’s on average there’s about a 4% increase in water vapor over the Atlantic Ocean and when that gets caught into a storm, it invigorates the storm so the storm itself changes, and that can easily double the influence of that water vapor and so you can get up to an 8% increase, straight from the amount of water vapor that’s sort of hanging around in the atmosphere. This is reasonably well established.

    and

    I find it systematically tends to get underplayed and it often gets underplayed by my fellow scientists. Because one of the opening statements, which I’m sure you’ve probably heard is “Well you can’t attribute a single event to climate change.” But there is a systematic influence on all of these weather events now-a-days because of the fact that there is this extra water vapor lurking around in the atmosphere than there used to be say 30 years ago. It’s about a 4% extra amount, it invigorates the storms, it provides plenty of moisture for these storms and it’s unfortunate that the public is not associating these with the fact that this is one manifestation of climate change. And the prospects are that these kinds of things will only get bigger and worse in the future.

  122. It is an interesting way to put it. The Obama supporters were the victims of media manipulation and mass psychology, as opposed to solid analytical thinking. Almost none of them had any real inkling of his past, or what it revealed about his character.

  123. Er, wasn’t this already debunked further up this same thread? The same quotes had been attributed to various people, including the current PM.

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    Former Australian Prime Minister John Howard told the media that immigrants should adapt to Australian culture, language and beliefs or leave the country. It also claims that Howard toldMuslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law that they should get out of Australia.

  124. the Democrats’ bill would allow the government to cut off care for the critically ill.

    ==================

    Not in this bill or directive, but some permanent agency Obama has set up does EXACTLY that. It regulates how much care can be given to people who already have X,Y,Z conditions. Obama’s example was his own grandmother who was given a new knee iirc when she was dying soon anyway.

    Talking about ‘death panels’ where individuals could go to plead their own cases understated the issue. Individuals don’t get to plead before Obama’s agency. It makes one ruling covering all such cases all over the US.

    (Of course the death panels where individuals do plead are already in place — at insurance companies.)

  125. Imam of controversial N.Y. mosque proposal to begin U.S. speaking tour

    By Maria Ebrahimji and Michael Martinez
    December 24, 2010

    (CNN) — The imam behind the controversial Islamic community center and mosque planned near the site of the September 11 attacks in New York will begin a nationwide speaking tour next month to promote the project and encourage interfaith dialogue, a spokeswoman said Friday.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has been at the center of a national firestorm over his proposal to build a high-rise community center and mosque two blocks north of ground zero, when the World Trade Center’s twin towers stood before the 2001 airliner attacks.

    “His speaking tour commences on January 15 in Detroit, and he will continue speaking throughout the year in about 12 different markets,” Leyla Turkkan, the imam’s spokeswoman, told CNN.

    “This is not a fundraising tour. He is continuing his work in multifaith dialogue, and the majority of the events will be closed to the public,” she said. Turkkan added that the events would be by invitation only, as part of security precautions.

    Earlier this month, Rauf announced a multifaith movement to promote discussion among Muslims, Jews, Christians and people of all faiths. His Cordoba Movement seeks to “retake the discourse among religions and cultures from the hands of the extremists around the world who benefit from hatred and violence,” he said.

    Rauf has become embroiled in controversy for his efforts on behalf of Park 51, a proposed 13-story Islamic community center.

    The Islamic center proposal was initiated by Sharif El-Gamal, the American-born developer and investor who heads the real estate firm Soho Properties. He and Rauf collaborated on the concept of the center. Rauf calls the project Cordoba House, while El-Gamal often refers to it as Park 51. Both names refer to the same project.

    Its proximity to where the two commercial jets hijacked by Muslim extremists crashed into the twin towers prompted strong protests — which turned the issue into a global debate over Islam’s place in the United States.

    The proposed center is part of a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative. The complex would feature a mosque, a performing arts center, a gym, a swimming pool and other public spaces.

    Some six in 10 Catholics and Mormons think another location should be found, according to a recent Gallup survey, while less than a third of Muslims, other non-Christians and non-religious Americans feel the same way. The survey found Protestants and other Christians fell in the middle.

    Last month, organizers cited scheduling conflicts when they canceled a Thanksgiving prayer service at the site that was to feature a Christian minister and a rabbi.

    Rauf wants his movement to create trust between faiths and counter remarks by congressmen and talk-show hosts who tie Muslim terrorism to the broader Islamic religion.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/24/new.york.imam.speaking.tour/index.html?hpt=Sbin

  126. Dec 26, 2010

    Airport body scanners, pat-downs to stay, Napolitano says

    The nation’s controversial airport pat-downs and full-body scanners are here to stay, at least for now.

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano defended the systems on CNN this morning, crediting them with preventing unknown numbers of potentially dangerous devices from making their way on to airplanes.

    “The new technology, the pat-downs, is just objectively safer for our traveling public,” Napolitano said. “We pick up contraband now, and we pick up more contraband with the new procedures and the new machinery. What we know is that you can’t measure the devices that we are deterring from going on a plane.”

    It was a year ago on Christmas when a Nigerian man, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, was accused of trying to blow up a Northwest flight to Detroit with plastic explosives hidden in his underwear.

    Despite concerns among civil libertarians and many travelers subjected to intimate pat-downs, Napolitano said safety is the No. 1 priority.

    “Everything is objectively better than it was a year ago, particularly in the aviation environment,” she said.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/airport-body-scanners-pat-downs-working-napolitano-says/1

  127. Triangulation only works when people don’t realise its happening

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    Huh? Bill’s ‘triangulation=Third Way’ worked openly and fine. He ‘used their tools to fix our car, and our tools to fix their car.’ He had ideas so good that both sides agreed on them.

    A famous example was reforming welfare by giving MORE help of the right kind: childcare, education,etc.

  128. Some six in 10 Catholics and Mormons think another location should be found, according to a recent Gallup survey, while less than a third of Muslims, other non-Christians and non-religious Americans feel the same way. The survey found Protestants and other Christians fell in the middle.
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/24/new.york.imam.speaking.tour/index.html?hpt=Sbin

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    That sounds like progress. Surveys a few months ago came out with about 6 in 10 of everybody against the location.

  129. He ‘used their tools to fix our car, and our tools to fix their car.’ He had ideas so good that both sides agreed on them.

    ==================
    Only works when a voter thinks the mechanic is a honest mechanic and wants to fix the car for the long run and not just replace broken parts with somewhat less-broken ones or repair them for 2 years only to yank them out 2 years later. I am a small biz owner, why the heck would I expand my biz only to have it punished 2 years later.

    Bill’s triangulation was in fact him actually moving to the center, where he natural has been with a record as a governor. Waffles “moving to the center” is just a ploy he is still a far left radical, and this is the difference business people will see.

  130. “Last month, organizers cited scheduling conflicts when they canceled a Thanksgiving prayer service at the site that was to feature a Christian minister and a rabbi.”

    I am so surprised./sarc

    Not.

  131. Er, wasn’t this already debunked further up this same thread? The same quotes had been attributed to various people, including the current PM.
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    Debunked? Perhaps the current PM took a page out of Rudd’s book that would be the only bone of contention. Nevertheless, their policy of ousting Sharia loving Muslims still stands.

  132. “A famous example was reforming welfare by giving MORE help of the right kind: childcare, education,etc.”
    ____________________

    You are describing a “solution”- How was the example triangulation in your mind?

  133. I assume Bill will help Rahm as he will need his support if Hillary makes a run in 2016. Same reason he has helped Obama as Obama (assuminmg he is re-elected) will have to campaign on behalf of Hillary.

  134. Okay, it was debunked in the previous thread:
    Linda192
    December 22nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Betty said:
    “I somehow believe [ the Australian Prime Minister ] wouldn’t have belabored the point as she is credited with doing here.”

    Linda said:
    You’re right – I’ve seen that quote attributed to the Australian prime ministers John Howard, Kevin Rudd and now Julia Gillard. Apparently it was actually written by American, and adapted for Australian and UK (amongst others) readers, as it struck such a chord.
    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.shtml

    Turndown said:
    It also reminded me of some things actually said by the US author Elizabeth Moon in her own LJ blog.

  135. “A famous example was reforming welfare by giving MORE help of the right kind: childcare, education,etc.”
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    You are describing a “solution”

    ================

    ‘Triangulation/Third Way’ DID originally refer to solutions Bill found.

    Huckabee in 2008 described a similar principle. Tho not using the word, he described an image of going above both sides to find a better solution than either side offered.

  136. Hi all, I have not been on for a while.

    I wish all of you a healthy and happy New Year.

    On the body scanners and pat downs.

    I have been going through a lot of airports. LA, Burbank, Cleveland, and Maui HA we all just walk through. No one was patted down nor went through the body scanner. This was during Thanksgiving and Xmas.

    There were people who had left keys or something in their pockets and the thing you walk through went off.

    All they did was use the wand on them.

  137. turndownobama
    December 26th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    Okay, it was debunked in the previous thread:
    Linda192
    December 22nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
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    turndown, you are a font of misinformation. John Howard made the statement not Rudd of Gillard. But the statement as it is “Muslims must adapt to Austraila”, not the other way around. Adapt to Australian culture, language and beliefs or leave the country. Is Howard’s statement. Howard told Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law that they should get out of Australia. Is TRUE-

  138. “Triangulation/Third Way’ DID originally refer to solutions Bill found.”
    _________________________

    Maybe so- What I’m asking you for is your understanding of how Triangulation works through a (made up) example you can give defining how the principle of Triangulation represents a Third way.

  139. While searching for the debunking of the Au Prime Minister email, I found this in the last thread also:

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2010/12/21/census-apportionment-data-the-rise-of-the-black-party/#comment-318831
    the number of people who have been illegally spied upon by [Obama’s/Homeland Security’s] Big Brother apparatus is much larger than the total number of Muslims in the United States. [….]
    As part of the specific targeting of the Muslim community in the United States, funds have gone to local law enforcement to hire self-styled “experts” on Islam, to assist them in their work. One expert cited by the Post, Ramon Montijo, teaches that “Most Muslims in the United State want Sharia law,” a total absurdity. Among the “experts” tapped by this spy system: Frank Gaffney, Gen. Jerry Boykin and James Woolsey, all notorious lunatic fringe neo-cons.

  140. I assume Bill will help Rahm as he will need his support if Hillary makes a run in 2016. Same reason he has helped Obama as Obama (assuminmg he is re-elected) will have to campaign on behalf of Hillary.
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    My read is he wants to save the party, by making sure that the Chicago interests that helped install obama do not destroy the party. Having a Chicago mayor who owes him rather than Obama serves that purpose.

  141. The meaning of the word ‘triangulation’ has been changed (deliberately by Bill’s enemies) since it was originally used in the 90s to describe a good policy of Bill’s.

    I’ve given a good example of its original use. I don’t want to invent something fictitious.

  142. turndown-

    you are being disingenuous with the info you are stating here. The link you just posted contains Howard’s original statement which is telling Muslims to comply with Australian laws and traditions or leave.

    If you can’t give an example of Triangulation stop promoting something you can’t explain..

  143. I am told that the omnibus spending bill that failed was intended to fail. It was put forth as a decoy for the foolish Republicans. For that and a short term tax freeze they agreed to nearly a trillion dollars in new spending, which only exacerbates the debt situation and lays the groundwork for out of control inflation. That is the gravamen of the complaint that conservatives have with establishment Republicans. McConnell is a perfect case in point.

  144. neetabug
    December 26th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

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    Happy holidays to you and all the best in the new year. 🙂

  145. JanH
    December 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    Mrs. Smith,

    God bless you. You have the patience of Job.
    ____________________________

    haha- If only that were true. I am not deserving of the praise. Sometimes I do have the patience- most of the time, I don’t. I admire people who really do have the patience to stop and explain a premise until the interested party understands. That is not the case here. My reason for seeking clarification today is for people who read us but do not necessarily post. His44 is noted for being a fact based blog linked to verifiable information which may or may not be open to differing interpretations by the reader. At any rate, discussion of various interpretations is the ‘food for thought’ and the benefit I see resulting from the blog. But what/where is the value of supporting a position if you can’t explain it to an understandable conclusion.

  146. His44 is noted for being a fact based blog linked to verifiable information

    ========================

    Right.

    And quality control means calling out quotes that come from Examiner>WashTimes>Rightwing-site>Internet-Poll in 2008 but are billed as current ‘news’ ‘only available from leaked cable’.

    And quotes that have bounced around inflammatory email for years and are debunked already at http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.shtml

    Facts are more important than opinions.

  147. Sen. Tom Coburn says the U.S. could face 18 percent unemployment and a massive contraction in its economy that would destroy the middle class if it does not get its fiscal house in order — warning U.S must contract spending to avoid ‘apocalyptic pain.’
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    This guy is a day late and a dollar short. We were saying this way back when and nobody listened. Obama spent like a drunken sailor. The other problem is there a very few credible people left who can persuade people to make sacrifices. Take Coburn for instance. He poses as a conservative republican and yet he is a buddy of Obama, and has supported much of his legislation, including the second stimulus bill, i.e. the so called tax compromise and this bad treaty he negotiated with the Russians. The question before us is not merely whether the middle class will survive, but if they do not will the elites survive. This thing could get very ugly for them. The real reason the Roman Empire fell was because after the elites had outsourced the job of yeoman farmer to cheaper venues, i.e. Carthage, and taxed the Roman people to death, the elites thought only of themselves and the Roman people concluded there was nothing worth defending. The issue anymore is credibility–will what they say be believed. The answer to that question is far from clear.

  148. Why should we listen to leaders most of whom are millionaires and were installed in office by elite interests when they tell us that the problem THEY failed to address namely the economy and jobs, such that now WE must make sacrifices. The argument fails for lack of ethos. The advisor, whether he be Obama, the New York Times or Tom Coburn lacks credibility. And if the speaker lacks credibility, then even when he is proposing the right thing, he will not be believed.

  149. Thanks, Tim-

    The snow is drifting like crazy- the wind is an unbelievable 40 or 50 mph here at the mountain’s summit. Stay safe, Tim.. Looks like a whopper of a storm.
    _______________________

    Nice time for a movie…

    watching “Money Never Sleeps.”

    Michael Douglas (Gordon Gekko) and Shia Lebouf. They’ve incorporated the financial crisis into the dialog. Pretty interesting stuff, the goings on in the investment backrooms are bloodsport.

    Memorable quotes:

    addressing a student audience:

    “You are the Ninja Generation.

    No income. No job. No assets.”

    How true is that? College students saddled with $70k-$80K in student loans with no way out.

    “Time (not money)is the primary asset.”

    “Spend as much time with your kids as you can.”

  150. Hillarymania takes hold on both sides of the fence

    Tony Allen-Mills From: The Australian December 27, 2010

    IT probably wasn’t an endorsement Hillary Clinton welcomed.

    One of the wilder members of the Tea Party movement hopes the US Secretary of State will run against President Barack Obama in the 2012 Democratic primaries. “I would love to see her take out Obama,” said Christine O’Donnell, the Delaware conservative who made headlines during this year’s mid-term elections by denying she was a witch.

    Ms O’Donnell may be the most mischievous of Mrs Clinton’s presidential advocates (as a supporter of Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor, Ms O’Donnell hopes a Clinton challenge might tear the Democrats apart) but she is far from alone in succumbing to the potent political spell Mrs Clinton still casts over electoral calculations in Washington.

    Last week, Karl Rove, the former adviser to president George W. Bush, fuelled a speculative frenzy when he predicted Mrs Clinton would be “a big presence” on the Democratic scene, not in 2012 but four years later, when Mr Obama has run out of time.

    “I suspect she is going to think about being a candidate in 2016 and we’ll know by about 2014,” said Mr Rove, who noted Mrs Clinton would then be only 69, younger than Ronald Reagan when he ran for his second term and younger than John McCain when he lost to Mr Obama in 2008.

    Behind the latest flurry of Hillarymania lies a sharp revision of electoral prospects since the Republican triumph in November’s mid-term elections. Far from reducing Mr Obama to a hopeless White House basket case, the Republican advance has provoked a nifty change of White House tactics.

    An unlikely series of legislative victories sent the President home to Hawaii last week for Christmas in much better spirits than seemed possible when the Tea Party was storming his ramparts earlier this year.

    Mr Obama’s newfound readiness to compromise earned him Republican concessions on a series of issues that were in danger of stalling, most notably a new strategic arms control treaty with Moscow, which was approved by the Senate on Wednesday.

    The key jobs of twisting the arms of wavering Republican senators and soothing their concerns that the treaty weakened US security fell to Mrs Clinton and Vice-President Joe Biden, who between them helped to sign up the two-thirds majority required.

    “That was a gutsy decision,” senator John Kerry said of Mr Obama’s decision to force a pre-Christmas vote. “Even colleagues on our side said it wasn’t going to happen.”

    Yet the President won by 71 votes to 26.

    Much of the credit went to Mr Biden, whose lobbying skills may have earned him a reprieve from previously rampant speculation that Mr Obama intends to replace him with Mrs Clinton as the vice-presidential running mate in 2012.

    Mrs Clinton remains indispensable to any chance of an Obama recovery, not least because of her own experience at the side of former Democratic president Bill Clinton, when he overcame early policy reverses in the 1990s and declared himself “the comeback kid”.

    In some respects, Mrs Clinton has had a difficult year.

    Her Middle East peace efforts have mostly gone nowhere, North Korea and Iran remain erratic threats and the State Department’s most sensitive diplomatic archives became public property through WikiLeaks.

    None of which has hurt her image a jot. She remains the most popular member of the Obama administration and is widely seen as the only Democrat who could credibly challenge the President. In a poll of Democratic voters in New Hampshire, one of the key primary states, Mr Obama’s approval rating was 84 per cent last week; Mrs Clinton’s was 86 per cent.

    Despite their intense rivalry during the 2008 presidential primaries, Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton are said to have developed a close working relationship and the President has been careful not to antagonise his most dangerous rival. Earlier this month, Mr Obama delighted State Department staff when he turned up at their end-of-year office party and paid Mrs Clinton an unusually glowing series of tributes. “There’s a consensus building that this may be one of the best secretaries of state we’ve ever had in this country’s history,” Mr Obama said.

    He joked that appointing her was “one of my better decisions”. He also noted Mrs Clinton liked to caution foreign audiences against watching too much US television – in case the rest of the world concluded that Americans spend all their time “wrestling and wearing bikinis”.

    In Washington, praise like this usually precedes the sack. Yet many Hillary-watchers are convinced Mr Obama needs both Clintons more than they need him. In his slimmed-down post-White House role as a global charity co-ordinator, Mr Clinton has become what few ever suspected after his scandal-stained departure from the White House – a political asset.

    When Peter Hart, a Democratic pollster, met a suburban voter focus group in Philadelphia this month, the most striking result was the number of people who wanted Mr Clinton as president. Mr Hart said he was surprised to hear the former president described as “a paragon of greatness”.

    Mr Obama caused a stir when he recently handed over a press conference to Mr Clinton, who plainly relished his return to the White House spotlight. “It is impossible to look at Bill and Hillary working the Washington scene today and not conclude that they want to move back to (the White House),” declared one veteran Democratic strategist.

    Mrs Clinton long ago tired of fending off questions about her White House ambitions and earlier this month insisted secretary of state would be her “last public position”. Asked whether she had any intention of running again for president, she replied: “No, I do not.”

    It is a measure of her electoral allure that her denials are routinely ignored. With the Clintons glued to his side, Mr Obama looks in better political shape than he would with Bill’n’Hill plotting elsewhere. If Ms Palin emerges as a genuine Republican presidential contender, Mrs Clinton could become a crucial foil for the mama grizzly brigade.

    The question then turns to what may be best for Mrs Clinton, if the White House in 2016 becomes her longer-term goal. Should she help Mr Obama win re-election? Or does it make more sense for her to step away from the administration, for Mr Obama to lose in 2012, for Ms Palin’s flaws to be exposed and for the US to turn to Mrs Clinton as its saviour?

    The only certainty is we have not heard the last wild rumour about Mrs Clinton’s designs.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/hillarymania-takes-hold-on-both-sides-of-the-fence/story-e6frg6so-1225976435768

  151. Boo-Hoo NOT…

    Christine Mitchell: Compromise-happy Obama letting his base down

    Sunday, December 26, 2010

    Dear President Obama,

    We — your base — are heartbroken. We thought you were going to restore our country’s dignity and respect. We thought you were going to be the president who tried to do the best possible for everyone, not just the rich. What happened? Did you lie to us? Did you change? Some of us even wonder if you are a Republican plant.

    We worked for you, when everyone thought Hillary Clinton would be the nominee. Then we worked our hearts out to get you elected president. We stood by when you didn’t even try to get a public option in the health care bill and caved to the insurance companies. We waited for you to close Guantanamo. We thought you would stop the wars. We kept quiet when you let Wall Street get away with ruining the economy.

    Now this tax bill is the last straw. What are you thinking? You didn’t even try to negotiate. Why weren’t you out there pushing for the bills the progressives were trying to get through — some of the same progressives who endorsed you before anyone thought you had a chance. Instead you met with the Republicans, without even inviting your own party members, and made a deal with them. You didn’t even try to stop the tax cuts for the rich.

    You seem to be afraid to stand up to the Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats. You are the president of the United States, for goodness’ sake! Your office is (or was) the most powerful in the world. Show some strength. You are trying to deal with people who “broke” the Senate by filibustering everything the Democrats tried to do. Do you really think you can work with people like that?

    Forty-two Republicans signed a letter saying they wouldn’t let anything pass in the Senate until a continuation of the tax cuts for the rich was signed. They don’t care if the START Treaty or anything else passes. They only care about the rich. They talk a good game about the deficit when it comes to unemployment benefits but then they give away billions or even trillions to corporations.

    While your party in the House passed over 400 bills trying to push the agenda we voted for, the Senate Republicans were holding the country hostage and refusing to let most bills pass. Mitch McConnell said early on that their most important goal was to make you a “one-term president.” Didn’t that give you a clue that you couldn’t work with them? Don’t you know they are going to use this very tax bill against you in 2012? The cut in payroll tax is going to cost you and the rest of us dearly. The Republicans are going to say “see, Social Security is failing.” They will point to the fact that the federal government has had to make up what was cut from payroll tax. That will be just more propaganda in their push to privatize Social Security.

    These same Republicans, who held the Senate hostage until they could get tax cuts for the rich, are stopping a bill that would help the 9/11 responders. Some of these responders were volunteers who came from all over to help. The site of the 9/11 attacks was a war zone and these responders were casualties of the war. Republicans praise the 9/11 responders all the time, but when it comes to giving them medical care or helping their families the Republicans say no. Why aren’t you speaking out for them?

    Mr. President, do you have any principles that you will stand firm on? Or are you just afraid of the right? Whatever the problem is, you need to learn to stand up for the American people, not the corporations. You need to get a backbone.

    A good example for you to look to is Teddy Roosevelt who said, “The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us.” The great “trust-buster” had it right, and wasn’t afraid to say so.

    Christine Mitchell is chairwoman of Shasta County Citizens for Democracy. She lives in Redding.

    http://www.redding.com/news/2010/dec/26/compromise-happy-obama-letting-his-base-down/

  152. Jan, I bet that letter resonates deeply with the Left. It clearly spells out the betrayal felt by those donating to Obama. Money, his supporters could have better spent elsewhere paying rent, mortgages, credit cards, heating and utility bills.

    Thats really gotta hurt-
    __________________

    The Palins buying a home in Arizona?

    McCain’s back yard? hmmm…

  153. Come to think of it- Obama has committed “moral hazard”. (a Wall St term) Taking people’s money and not being responsible to them for taking it.

    Obama made promises during his campaign on tv and at fundraisers. Creating a viable HC system, NO tax cuts for the Rich, Jobs, fixing the foreclosure crisis and on and on and on…

  154. I doubt that any democrat will be elected in 2016 if Obama wins in 2012. The natural political cycle will probably Hillbuzz is right. Hillary would be better off if a republican wins in 2012 and then she can challenge that person in 2016. This country is already tired of Obama and if he gets a second term, the democrat party is finished for generations!

  155. My read is he wants to save the party, by making sure that the Chicago interests that helped install obama do not destroy the party. Having a Chicago mayor who owes him rather than Obama serves that purpose.
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    is this implying that Obama will not help Rahm win mayor of Chicago. Is this based on a story that I missed or just a theory? Clinton should protect the Clintons from Rahm and any Other Obama supporter, but Bill doesn’t listen to me unfortunately.

  156. warehouse553
    December 26th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    I doubt that any democrat will be elected in 2016 if Obama wins in 2012. The natural political cycle will probably Hillbuzz is right. Hillary would be better off if a republican wins in 2012 and then she can challenge that person in 2016. This country is already tired of Obama and if he gets a second term, the democrat party is finished for generations!
    **********************
    I’m afraid the country will not survive until 2016. We need her to run in 2012.

  157. Well I lived thru my 24-hr shift…geez, I’m getting too old for this crap! Oh well I hate to gripe when so many folks are out of work. It just that it is getting hard on this old lady, LOL!

    Well I couldn’t get over all the rumors coming from somewhere in D.C. Hillary’s job getting jacked by none other than fat boy Richardson, now that was a whopper! I wonder who thinks up this crap?

  158. Anyone coming in to replace Hillary after she steps down from the SOS position is going to have gigantic shoes to fill.

    Judas as a replacement is a joke and a bad one at that. I’m trying hard to think of anyone who can match Hillary’s brains and appeal. I keep coming up empty.

  159. BigCatLover

    I wish she could be President in 2012 as well but as long as Obama gets 90% of the black vote, a primary challenge will fail. Last time she overwhelmingly won the white working class and hispanic vote but it still was not enough. It is ironic that blacks are worse off economically under Obama than they were under Bush and yet they overwhelmingly support him!

    My fear is that the majority of blacks will stay with him until the very end and permanently racially divide the Democrat Party and country. They will dismiss any criticism of his mediocrity as a racist attack and the media, because they promoted him, will help them.

  160. So is the AA vote going to dictate who the dem candidate is until perpetuity? Let them support who they want and the other dems support who they want. Remember HRC got the most votes in the 2008 primary.

  161. Also remember that Teddy isn’t around anymore to corrupt the system. There is however, dodo donna and the dimwits who can still cheat by giving have of Hillary’s votes to their monster of choice. They can still cheat by bribery and threats as well as false voter registration and false race card accusations, bullying at the voting stations, and on and on.

  162. as long as Obama gets 90% of the black vote, a primary challenge will fail.

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    Brazile and the DNC set up the primaries so the Southern Blacks can deliver delegates*. But those Southern red states can’t deliver electoral votes.

    *If we discount the Superdelegates.

  163. The shock value of that kind of cheating is gone and other dems will fight back this time. Of course, they need to be prepared for new ways of cheating if Obama’s ambition kicks in and he decides he really wants the job next time.

  164. Okay let’s say she wins the primary, and if she can eliminate the caucuses, she will. I believe enough black voters will stay home out of spite! I think they are so emotionally invested in him that they would do it. I think the Democrats want to get rid of him but they are afraid of the racial implications of doing so. Remember that meeting where one House member said F Obama or something.

    Oh and thanks New Mexico Fan. And one more thing, how badly really has this Wikileaks story hurt Hillary? I’m concerned about this. Should I be?

    And unfortunately as I hate to say this I do believe that AA vote in the primary electorate is holding the democrats hostage.

  165. is this implying that Obama will not help Rahm win mayor of Chicago. Is this based on a story that I missed or just a theory? Clinton should protect the Clintons from Rahm and any Other Obama supporter, but Bill doesn’t listen to me unfortunately.
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    Yes. Obama was supporting one of his competitors and he was pretty much forced to leave if the inside gouge is correct. The fraud may say nice things publicly about him but privately he will be working against Emanuel behind the scenes.

  166. Okay let’s say she wins the primary, and if she can eliminate the caucuses, she will.

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    How could she eliminate the caucuses? Party insiders like caucuses (even some Hillary supporters like them) becasue they’re cheap and leave room for wheeling and dealing.

  167. warehouse553
    December 26th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
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    Correct. And on the odds, they will have another black candidate in 2016. Once you have the power you cannot give it up. It will be up to the rest of the country to show them the error of their ways.

  168. My fear is that the majority of blacks will stay with him until the very end and permanently racially divide the Democrat Party and country. They will dismiss any criticism of his mediocrity as a racist attack and the media, because they promoted him, will help them.
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    No question about it. That is why I say it will be up to the rest of the county to show them the error of their ways. The same proposition holds true for big media. They are co conspirators and they are in it to the end, regardless of what it does to the country. Before he can go big media must go. Their must be shown to have no credibility. That ulsterman article, coupled with that they are doing now should be enough to sink their ship if enough people talk about it.

  169. turndownobama

    Could Pelosi help us in anyway? I know she hates Hillary but she has to be pissed at losing her Speakership. She knows that if Hillary were President it would have never happened! She has to want revenge and that tax deal that he negotiated without her input has probably only exacerbated her desire. It’s poetic justice actually that he single handedly destroyed her career after every unethical and illegal thing she did for him.

  170. Could Pelosi help us in anyway? I know she hates Hillary but she has to be pissed at losing her Speakership.

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    As Chair of the Dem conventions, she’s certainly got some power about counting the delegates’ votes in August. It’s hard to imagine her changing sides in 2012 — and even harder to imagine Hillary challenging O in 2012.

    In 2016 … how old would Pelosi be? She’s older than Hillary.

  171. jeswezey
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    I see you are busy with your put downs of America and it’s exceptionalism once again. I really don’t believe you are American. I really hope you are not.

    Through all your desertions on the greatness of Europe, especially the always to be counted on in times of war to be rolled over in less than a week, France, not once do you mention that it is the United States that pays the bill to keep Europe safe, that it is the United States that pays to keep the oh so French safe to drink of the vine and speak to the boorish, loud, and oh so uncultured ugly Americans that just happen allow the Europeans to spend their money on that so called superior health care system you brag so often about. Hell, their so much in the black that they take 5 week vaca’s to visit the third world old U S of A. Golly gee, thanks for the lecture again. I guess the multiple trillions we spend over “there”, across the “pond”, is just honky dory for ya all? I can’t wait till we totally stop the greenback from sullying all of Europe! Time to put your big boy pants on Europe and pay your own way. The Marshall plan has ended. Have a great future…

  172. American Thinker
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    December 26, 2010
    No Comparison: Shariah and Jewish Religious Courts
    By Rabbi Aryeh Spero

    Many stealth jihadists pushing to have Shariah law instead of American civil law govern American Islamic communities are making the preposterous claim that Shariah Courts are similar to Jewish religious courts that observant Jews often use to adjudicate intra-community disputes. This is entirely inaccurate given that Shariah has as its goal the replacement of American law with Shariah, whereas Beit Din, Jewish religious court, limits its purview and has no intent or desire to flout American law.

    Over 1800 years ago, the Talmudic Rabbi Samuel set the tone of how Jews were to interact with the laws of Babylonia, which had become the primary residence of the Jewish People after its exile from Israel. His statement and decision has guided the Jewish community throughout their dwellings in new lands: “The law of the land is the law.” Rabbi Samuel understood, as did all subsequent rabbinic figures, that dwelling in a land and being a good citizen meant living by its laws and standards.

    Naturally, many aspects of Jewish religious life differed from that of the host culture, such as the requirement to eat kosher food, observe the Sabbath and abstain from bread on Passover, and Rabbi Samuel would have been the first to reject any attempt by the State to prohibit our core religious observances. In the spirit of Render unto Caesar that which is his and unto God that which is His, Rabbi Samuel demarcated between religious law and civil law. His intellectual honesty lay in not allowing the subterfuge of categorizing civil law as “religious” law, which would have effectively nullified the whole concept of “The law of the land is the law”.

    Rabbi Samuel certainly wished to preserve Jewish culture and ethnicity. Nonetheless,
    the Head of Babylon’s Jewish community imbibed a deep respect and loyalty to his new country and would not allow zealots and separatists to lurch into a mode of cultural supremacy by erecting autonomous communities within the nation, which is accomplished when the purview of religious law is inflated to include that which is essentially civil and criminal law, something to be decided by the general public.

    Eight hundred years later, as the center of Jewish life shifted westward to Europe, Rabbi Gershom of Germany expanded on the theme of “The Law of the land is the law.” He declared that because something is permitted in religious law does not mean a Jew should exercise that religious right if it is contrary to a fundamental standard and custom of the country where he now resides. So that even though the ancient Bible did not limit a man to one wife, henceforth Jewish men living in Europe could not marry as was done in biblical days, since European/Christian mores had rejected the simultaneous taking of multiple wives. Though polygamy was already centuries earlier culturally taboo among western Jews, Rabbi Gershom took the opportunity to prohibit it officially and legally to underscore the point that no particular ethnic community stands above and beyond deep-rooted national moral and ethical mores and standards.

    Contrast this philosophy with that of shariah compliance where, for example, in certain European countries Islamic clerics are asking that the State welfare system subsidize the multiple wives of a Pakistani-born Muslim, or that of New Jersey where a lower court judge agreed not to hold a man liable for raping his wife, “reasoning” that his culture permits a man to force himself on his wife even though she vehemently protests her subjugation. Or the case of an 18 year old Columbus, Ohio girl whose wish to convert to Christianity is causing a risk to her life from her parents who claim that shariah does not allow her to become Christian. Jewish law intrinsically deplores what shariah here espouses, and no Beit Din would kow-tow to such rejection of civilized American societal norms.

    The three cases mentioned above, some even criminal, stand foursquare against our American principle that women and children are not simply a man’s property. This isn’t simply a legalism but fundamental to our identity and to who we are as a people and nation. Having two sets of laws, one of which extends to Muslims the right to do that which is forbidden to all other Americans is a breach of the bedrock principle of Due Process, wherein our laws are applied equally to all, be it our rights or our prohibitions. Should we suddenly make one group of citizens more privileged than all others? That is not American, nor western. Equality under the law must transcend fashionable and often silly notions of multi-culturalism. Too much multi-culturalism leads to no culture at all, a society denuded of standards.

    It has always been understood here that no one can claim a religious exception to civil and criminal rules that govern all. Religious freedom does not mean freedom from living by the civilized laws that constitute us as a people. That is exactly what Rabbi Samuel had in mind 1800 years ago when warning against those who would abrogate their fealty to civil and criminal law by claiming a special dispensation under religious law.

    There are two areas where from time-to-time a Jew invites a Beit Din into his life. One is marriage and divorce. But here the Beit Din does not supersede routine civil law, rather it embellishes these events with certain required rituals, none of which offend deep-rooted social morality nor contradict existing civil law. After the divorced couple arranges their divorce settlement — finances, child custody questions etc. — the Beit Din’s scribe quilts on parchment a divorce document according to an ancient Hebrew text. Marriage is similarly preceded by written documents and blessings. These additions do not abrogate any civil laws, rather fall under the rubric of rituals that adorn and enrich each particular group within humanity.

    The second is the arbitration process where two Jewish litigants decide to forgo the expenses of lawyers and protracted civil court proceedings and opt to have the Beit Din arbitrate and decide their business or monetary conflict. Courts are often pleased by this choice since it relieves them of yet another case on their heavy dockets. But even here, the Beit Din cannot pull out of left field some wild form of insular reasoning whose logic could not stand up in secular court. Nor would it ever arbitrate on criminal matters.

    And herein lays an essential difference between those advocating shariah for Islamic communities as opposed to Beit Din in highly observant Jewish communities. Whereas, a Jew finds himself at a Beit Din once or twice in life, and for many never at all, shariah will dominate the individual within the community. He will live under shariah. Shariah is comprehensive, and coercive. It is the ultimate balkanization, wherein a mini nation lives within a broader nation. It is a seceding from the Union – yet with all the privileges of being in that union.

    For stealth jihadists, shariah is the most effective way to Islamize a country. Through its imposition, it telegraphs that a nation has no unique and binding set of laws, mores and standards. That’s why radical multiculturalists love it. It helps brings down America.

    Islamic shariah has a completely different aspiration than Jewish law. Jewish law has no world-wide ambitions. We don’t even seek converts. There’s one Jewish state, and a small one at that. Islam’s stated goal is to have the world live under shariah. It yearns for a world-wide caliphate, bringing all under Islam, individuals and nations.

    Shariah announces that Islam is above and beyond the law. It is above country. Once allowed and implemented in Islamic neighborhoods, it reaches beyond and extends to ever growing areas where its adherents migrate, so that neighborhoods once under American law now must forfeit their American way of life if they wish to do business or be shielded from harassment. Shariah does not believe in Live and let Live, which has been the sweet anthem that has guided America. It demands changes in our schools, work places, swimming pools, and every facet of public and commercial life.

    In England , for example, whole school districts now forbid pork in school cafeterias where Christian children still constitute the majority, and some districts won’t even teach the Holocaust because it “offends” anti-Semitic Muslims. Liberals call this sensitivity and accommodation. But it is capitulation; capitulation by emasculated multi-culturalists who feel that the only way to validate our western culture is by forfeiting it and submitting to those who wish to destroy it. Any ideology whose demands and stranglehold on civic and public life are so extensive and unyielding is theocratic in nature and thus incompatible with and dangerous to western life.

    At one time, North Africa was not Islamic. Neither was Turkey, southern Asia, Indonesia, Central Africa, Persia, nor most of Iraq and Lebanon; nor were vast lands west, east and north of India. Nor were the Balkans. They are now mostly Islamic. Some fell to the sword of Islam. Others decided to be “nice guys” and allow shariah law in their countries for those few who demanded it. Now, tens of millions of them and their children must live under shariah law. Their heritage is gone

  173. Could Pelosi help us in anyway?
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    Never. First of all, she was an Obama partisan. When I was campaigning in Texas for Hillary she had staff people there secretly shilling for Obama. This was unseemly since as co-chair of the DNC she was supposed to be neutral. We chased the issue with her donors and she denied it. But we had the proof. Second, her power is gone. The Republican majority will marginalize her as she did them. And Obama will use her as someone he can run against in an effort to appeal to indies. Politically speaking she is DOA come January 21. Third, if she gives Obama any trouble he will quash her like a bug–and she knows that. Bottom line: do not look to her to help Hillary.

  174. Anyone coming in to replace Hillary after she steps down from the SOS position is going to have gigantic shoes to fill.

    Judas as a replacement is a joke and a bad one at that. I’m trying hard to think of anyone who can match Hillary’s brains and appeal. I keep coming up empty.
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    I think it was a mess when Hillary took the job and it is still a mess. I think she has rebuilt the State Department, enlarged its footprint, cultivated the respect of foreign leaders, and laid out a realistic foreign policy strategy for the future, which is in Foreign Affairs Magazine. But the actual deliverables have been evasive. For example: No agreement in the middle east, no agreement with Iran, no agreement on the Korean Peninsula, and a very bad agreement with the Russians which was the handiwork of Obama and Kissinger. Part of the problem is a Hillary hating American Press. Part of it is the large debt which impairs our ability to apply economic leverage. Part of it is the tragic loss of Holbrooke whom she would have made secretary of state. And part of it is the dysfunctional approach to foreign policy which we see in Obama. If Richardson is to be her replacement, the road will get far tougher. He is not a very smart man and I wonder whether he has any ability to juggle the balls she has. I think the world sees him as a blubberous slob, and he is a pretty slow thinker. He is a political stooge and that is undoubtedly what Obama sees in him.

  175. In the marketplace in particular, the Repug religion for the past 30 years has been to de-regulate everything, operating simply on the above hypothesis that regulation is bad because it limits the free market. As Webster Tarpley says repeatedly, “the free market doesn’t exist. It’s a myth.” What he means is that, without regulation, everyone gets screwed, starting with the consumer, but then moving up to the small and medium-size businesses and ending with the larger corporations, only the most machiavellian of which will survive. The marketplace needs to be intelligently regulated, and government intervention (regulation, fiscal and monetary action) is beneficial.
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    Now that is a fine piece of revisionist history. De regulation of many industries was the brain child of Alfred Kahn who worked for Carter. The Republicans were part of it too–and perhaps the greater part of it. But when the same elite interests control both parties, let us not fall for their theater that it was one party or the other. They are two wings of the same bird. That said I do agree that the free market is a myth and left to its own devices will always tend toward monopoly in any commodity business. I completely agree that sensible regulation of some aspects of the marketplace is important.

  176. JanH

    “I wonder who thinks up this crap?”

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    Judas of course!
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    I with ya’ll, Judas needs to find himself a tree, his political career on his knees…is over.

  177. Mrs Smith: “So, in your minds eye, one act by the US, which their citizens didn’t approve of, removes the exceptionalism title from our country in lieu of the thousands of exceptional acts we have provided to countries worldwide.”
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    By “one act by the US which their citizens didn’t approve of”, you are referring to the intervention in Iraq. However, you should remember that, at the time (Oct ’02 to Apr ’03), Americans were overwhelmingly approved of Dubya’s action against Iraq and were totally taken in by ‘Mission Accomplished’ with him. My run-in with the police in Hollywood FL in April 03, which I recounted here a month or two ago, was due to neighbors who wanted me deported because I was supporting the French veto of the Iraq war.

    And this ‘one act’ has resulted in a 7-year war and a lingering military presence in Iraq that will keep the country unstable far into the future. This ‘one act’ has cost and is costing about $50 billion a year.

    There are indeed other “thousands of exceptional acts”, mostly by private citizens, that the world can thank the US for. There is the CGI, for example, and Hillary’s new orientation of USAID. Yet, two things:

    • Other countries also undertake such actions, through government actions that are in some cases ten or 15 times greater than that of the US in terms of percent GDP.
    • The NGOs such as CGI and thousands of others are funded internationally. It’s not just Americans doing the work or paying the bills.

    But in the meantime, we are spending $50 billion a year on Iraq and how much on Afghanistan? Do you think, like ø, that the war in Afghanistan is justified? Is this just another “one act” the American people don’t approve? Do you remember how we got into this mess in the first place? It was because Afghanistan refused to extradict Bin Laden for trial in the US about 9/11. When Afghanistan refused, Dubya invoked Article 5 and roped NATO into an out-of-theater war ostensibly for the purpose of bringing Bin Laden to justice. Did you agree with Dubya, at that time, or later, or now? Do you agree with ø’s persistence in that ‘just’ war? Do you pay your taxes so the troops will be able to support the corrupt Karzai?

    How much of your tax dollar goes into (i) these two belligerent initiatives of the US government, and how much of your tax dollar goes into (ii) the “thousands of exceptional acts we have provided to countries worldwide”? For a decade now, there is no comparison between the two expenditures, and you are just going to have to realize that the world beyond the water’s edge sees our exceptionalism in our deeds, not in our talk. (As Tarpley points out.)
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    Gonzotx: “I see you are busy with your put downs of America and it’s exceptionalism once again. I really don’t believe you are American. I really hope you are not.”
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    Well, I’m sorry to shatter your hopes. This reminds me again of my run-in with the Hollywood FL police (and neighbors). If you dare to differ, the simple-minded try to run you out of the house. As for what I say about American exceptionalism, those were not my own words but those of Webster Tarpley. I do agree with him, though, so fire away at me.
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    “Through all your desertions [?? Do you mean “dissertations”?] on the greatness of Europe, especially the always to be counted on in times of war to be rolled over in less than a week, France, not once do you mention that it is the United States that pays the bill to keep Europe safe, that it is the United States that pays to keep the oh so French safe to drink of the vine and speak to the boorish, loud, and oh so uncultured ugly Americans that just happen allow the Europeans to spend their money on that so called superior health care system you brag so often about.”
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    Oh dear, now I’m sorry if I’ve said anything positive about Europe, which is living high on the hog while we Americans are working so hard to pay their bills and fighting all their wars for them. And I’m super-sorry to say anything positive about that country that got rolled over in three weeks (not “less than a week”) by Hitler!

    But in that case, might I say something good about Germany, which did the rolling-over? After all, Germany is second on Tarpley’s list of countries that have greater upward socio-economic mobility than the US. How about Sweden, third on the list and also a country that allowed Hitler to roll in without firing a shot? Are all these countries excluded from your consideration just because of Hitler? In your wee mind, hasn’t anything happened in the world since August 1945?

    You say “the US… pays to keep the oh so French safe” but I don’t know where in the dickens you get that from. I suppose I’m going to get a slew of googled articles on the subject, but that’s just going to confuse me even more. The US doesn’t pay for European defense nor for the health care systems. NATO was indeed originally conceived as a US-backed umbrella against Soviet aggression; but by 1966 De Gaulle realized that it was more dangerous living under the American umbrella than outside it. He asked the US to leave France and then withdrew from the NATO organization. When France came back into NATO more than 30 years later, it was only to get roped into the Afghan war, outside the Euro theater, which was the very thing De Gaulle had wanted to avoid in the first place – getting roped into a war outside the Euro theater (in his era, it was Vietnam).

    I don’t know why you think Americans are “boorish, loud, and oh so uncultured ugly” – that’s quite an indictment you make of Americans! For my part, the only thing I’ve ever said on the subject is that Americans tend not to listen to each other, so that when they disagree, which is almost always in public, it can lead to loud and impolite talk.

    This is actually something I noticed not by my experience abroad but when I was a little kid, in the old US of A. Starting at about 10 years of age, I became more and more “introverted”, ie refused to engage in discussion with kids my own age or even 4-5 years older.

    My discovery of another world where people could talk reasonably with each other, without conforming or agreeing all the time, was not in France, but in the Netherlands when I was 16. So in my original remarks of a few weeks ago, which seemed to rile you so against the French, the example I had in mind was not the French but the Dutch. Now you can go bitch about the Dutch, if you want – they really were rolled over in less than a week. Let’s have a Google stream about the Dutch. Goody goody
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    “Hell, their so much in the black that they take 5 week vaca’s to visit the third world old U S of A. Golly gee, thanks for the lecture again. I guess the multiple trillions we spend over “there”, across the “pond”, is just honky dory for ya all? I can’t wait till we totally stop the greenback from sullying all of Europe! Time to put your big boy pants on Europe and pay your own way. The Marshall plan has ended. Have a great future…”
    **********

    Man, you really are living in a timeframe from before you were born, and in a world that never existed. Of course the Marshall plan has ended – 60 years ago! It was a great success, too. It was a $13 billion loan that had the desired effect, which was to invest in European capital goods production, make Euro economies viable again so they could be trading partners with the US, stand up to the USSR and so forth. It’s true that the US could have done nothing, but we were too afraid the Soviets would then move into western Europe. So Truman and Secy of State Marshall dreamt up this idea.

    European countries don’t owe the US anything for the Marshall Plan. As you say, it has ended.

    As for the rest of your rant, the “5 week vaca” applies to the French only. Go look up if the Dutch take 5 weeks vacation; I don’t think so. Do people spend their vacations in “third world US of A”? Not as far as I know. The destinations for west Europeans are: north and west Africa, eastern Europe (Prague is the hottest), China, Japan, South Africa, east Africa, India, Greece & Turkey, Israel, and the US of A ranks pretty low. That’s mainly because the US has made no effort to accommodate tourists. The 5th-week winter vacation for the French is spent in the Alps, the Himalaya or the Rockies.

    As for tourists of the rest of the world, including the US of A, the first destination is and always has been Europe and, within Europe, Paris leads. For more than 95% of people worldwide who make enough money to take a vacation abroad, their first destination is Paris. On their second trip abroad, they go back to Paris. Paris sort of becomes a home base for international travelers. Now, I don’t know if all this tourism amounts to the “multiple trillions we spend over there” as you say, and actually I don’t know if that’s what you’re referring to; but I’m sure the French are duly grateful for it.

    “I can’t wait till we totally stop the greenback from sullying all of Europe!” is a rant I don’t understand at all.

    “Time to put your big boy pants on Europe and pay your own way.” You’ve made several remarks along this line, implying that the US is keeping Europe on the dole. It’s another rant I don’t understand. What are you talking about?

  178. wbboei: Right about A Kahn and de-regulation of the airlines under Carter, but since then…

    “when the same elite interests control both parties, let us not fall for their theater that it was one party or the other”

    True, but global de-regulation has still been Repug theology ever since. Anyway, you’re definitely right about having the same elites in control of both parties, at least now; and the only regulation that is really enforced and beefed up is the regulation that serves those elite interests. Think the FDA working for Monsanto or refusing foreign drugs so Big Pharma can continue to rake in rents. I’m sure ø’s “reform” of the financial system with additional regulatory bodies was just what Wall Street wanted.

  179. “However, you should remember that, at the time (Oct ’02 to Apr ’03), Americans were overwhelmingly approved of Dubya’s action against Iraq and were totally taken in by ‘Mission Accomplished’ with him.”
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    Not True! We rallyed against going into Iraq. When the sign Mission Accomplished was flown in May of 03′, we protested.
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    You are turning into a real life Pinocchio, jesweezy.
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    My run-in with the police in Hollywood FL in April 03, which I recounted here a month or two ago, was due to neighbors who wanted me deported because I was supporting the French veto of the Iraq war.
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    Really- that wasn’t your claim at the time. You said, when police asked you for ID you refused. You ranted at the police on your importance of working in the Foreign Service. FYI, refusal of showing ID in this country is enough probable cause to get you arrested taken to the local PD until someone can prove who you are.

  180. Don’t confuse the media’s support of the Iraq war with the people’s support. I argued and argued with some of the right wing men at work at the time. They had a hard on for war, but the less testesterone laden were not happy with it. I think any thinking person supported going into Afghanistan after Bin Laden, but when it became apparent that Bush was never going to bring him in, that enthusiasm cooled really quickly. There were plenty of anti war protestors, but only c-span covered their marches, the MSM did not.

  181. wbboei
    December 27th, 2010 at 1:29 am

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    She has spent most of her valuable time fixing obama’s crude mistakes. Everytime she gets ahead in the game, he steps his foot in it somewhere else.

    And the media makes sure that she takes all the hits instead of their wonderbread boy.

  182. Dec 27, 2010

    Obama, Hillary Clinton still the most admired

    President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are once again the reigning king and queen of the nation’s “Most Admired” list.

    USA TODAY’s Susan Page reports that Obama was cited by 22% of Americans polled in the USA TODAY/Gallup survey, down from 32% and 30% in 2008 and 2009. So while he has topped the list for three years, the more he governs, the less popular he is.

    Still, he runs roughshod over his competition: former presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton ran second and third with 5% and 4%, respectively. They were followed by Nelson Mandela, Bill Gates, Pope Benedict XVI, Rev. Billy Graham, Jimmy Carter, Glenn Beck and the Dalai Lama.

    On the women’s side, Clinton is first for the 9th consecutive year and the 15th time in the last 18 years. She topped Sarah Palin, 17% to 12% — a bigger margin than last year’s 16%-15% squeeker. Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama finished third and fourth.

    The only years since 1993 that Clinton didn’t top the list were in 2001, when new first lady Laura Bush got the honors while Clinton was in her freshman year as a New York senator, and twice as first lady in the 1990s when whe was bested by Mother Teresa.

    So how does Obama compare to his predecessors?

    Among the last nine elected presidents, he’s in the middle, tied for third with George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter at 22%. George W. Bush, still fresh from his response to the 9/11 attacks the year before, and Dwigh Eisenhower rated higher.

    As a first-year president, he was third behind George W. Bush and John F. Kennedy.

    In his election year, he was first, besting Eisenhower and Bill Clinton.

    Oddly, Mrs. Obama runs behind most of her predecessors as first lady, perhaps because of the competition posed by Mrs. Clinton, Palin and Winfrey. Most recent first ladies did better — particularly Clinton, Barbara and Laura Bush, Rosalynn Carter and Jacqueline Kennedy.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-hillary-clinton-still-the-most-admired/1

  183. “…Dubya’s action against Iraq and were totally taken in by ‘Mission Accomplished’ with him.”

    Mrs. Smith: “Not True! We rallyed against going into Iraq. When the sign Mission Accomplished was flown in May of 03′, we protested.”
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    No, Dubya was polling an 80% approval rating. Almost everyone has forgotten that. I’m willing to believe you yourself were among the disbelievers, but not “the man in the street.”

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    “My run-in with the police in Hollywood FL in April 03, which I recounted here a month or two ago, was due to neighbors who wanted me deported because I was supporting the French veto of the Iraq war.”
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    Mrs. Smith: “Really- that wasn’t your claim at the time. You said, when police asked you for ID you refused. You ranted at the police on your importance of working in the Foreign Service. FYI, refusal of showing ID in this country is enough probable cause to get you arrested taken to the local PD until someone can prove who you are.”

    You have a pretty good memory, Mrs. Smith; and you’re right, at the time I only talked about the police and not about the neighbors, ie why the police were there in the first place. But I didn’t rant at the police about working with the Foreign Service, I just let their “leader” figure that out for himself. In fact, and FYI, I didn’t work for the Foreign Service but for another related branch of the government, which I’ll let you figure out for yourself.

    And also, FYI, refusal to show ID is not cause for arrest anywhere in the US. Even the Hollywood police knew that: It’s a constitutional right not to have to identify yourself even if you’re arrested redhanded in the middle of an infringement. This is why there are so many “John Doe”s booked at police stations. And in this particular case, in Hollywood FL, I was on the public sidewalk in front of my own home and had done nothing wrong.

    Futhermore, the Hollywood officers were not asking me for ID, because they already knew who I was (from the neighbors). What they wanted was proof of nationality, which was even more peculiar, and even asked me for proof that I wasn’t French, which is impossible. They were really fishing around for something to stick on me so they could “take me in” in handcuffs and show the neighbors what great American cops they were.

    So there is a reason there’s so much of a stink about the Arizona law, where officers are mandated to ask for proof of nationality, but they can do so only at the time of an arrest, suspicion or interrogation concerning an offense such as traffic violation. IMO, it’s a good law, but it raises constitutional issues.

  184. She has spent most of her valuable time fixing obama’s crude mistakes. Everytime she gets ahead in the game, he steps his foot in it somewhere else.

    And the media makes sure that she takes all the hits instead of their wonderbread boy.
    ——————————-
    No question about it Jan. He is a millstone, an abatross, a wart on the nose of progress. It gets back to this whole subject of toxic leaders and what a subordinate can do to get the job done inspite of them. The typical reaction is to work around them. But when you have a big media who act as his spies, and are constantly attempting to drive the narrative that she is undermining the golden calf, and when you also have a staff of textbook paranoid pukes around him who are ready to pick up on this and drive his own acute paranoia, it is hard to get the job done. Thus it is not always possible to work around a toxic leader like him who is surrounded by a toxic media enablers, and a toxic staff. Hillary has had her support group of senior people with experience in people like Gates and Holbrooke but one is gone and the other is leaving. When you try to do what is right for the country, and find yourself thwarted at every turn by the Obama circus maximus which is destroying this country, there comes a point when you realize there is nothing more you can do. Today, we have this only on rumor, but I rather suspect the rumor will turn out to be true. A friend of mine who is a counsellor maintains that Hillary is not the same person she was in the campaign, and part of the reason for this is she never gave herself the time to grieve over the loss. If she takes a step back from public life now, that could be the best thing in the world for her, and it does not preclude her from reentering public life at some future time. I fight the idea of 2016 because I believe it is unrealistic and when it does not happen people who are counting on it will be devastated. I would prefer to leave that decision in her hands, and not feed the rumors promulgated in the media by her sworn enemies like Chris Cilezza who is simply covering his ass for past misdeeds, or Karl Rove, whom she told us at a small gathering said right after the 2006 losses what are we going to do about her. Put differently, beware of Greeks bearing gifts. The other factor to be mindful of in any 2016 setting is the state of Bill’s health. I will not make the case in full because many people now do not want to hear it.

  185. jeswezey
    December 27th, 2010 at 11:39 am
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    My bullshit detector tells me there is more to this story than you are letting on. First of all, I find it unlikely that neighbors would ask to have you deported for supporting the French position on the Iraq War. That is not legal grounds for deportation. Neither is being a francophile, as you apparently are. Second, I find it equally unlikely that the local police who are charged with preserving the public order would respond to a call for deportation because you supported the French position on Iraq. On the other hand it there was a public disturbance or threats against individuals then that could provide a basis for a legitimate exercise of the police powers. Knowing how these feuds can get out of hand, are you sure there was none of that on your part? Third, you may have a legal right to refuse to provide identification, as you would routinely when cashing a check. But why would you refuse, unless you were in an agitated state of mind. That may explain why the police showed up. Fourth, why would you let them figure out that you worked for a federal agency which is not the foreign service. It seems to me you were playing with them the same way that Professor Gates was playing with them. On the other hand you would probably say you were upholding the Constitution and you cite this as proof that the State of Arizona is wrong in demanding to see id where there is just cause, which is the latest iteration of the Arizona Law. This seems pretty far fetched to me. There has got to be more to the story.

  186. jesweezy,

    When someone has lodged a complaint against you- as you claim your neighbors did. You bet you had better have an ID. And if you don’t, you will be taken down to the station, if you cannot produce a valid ID.

    jesweezy, you are addicted to moving the goal posts on the playing field between responses. Just like you did earlier, adding the neighbors wanted you deported (which I don’t believe) because you were supporting the French Veto of the Iraq War. Unless you were making a pest of yourself making the case for the French Veto of the Iraq war and ranting at them face to face. I tend to believe they just wanted you to leave. Hollywood, FL. is not Bush country neither is Florida for that matter a Red State. You would have been facing Democrats. Democrats are/were always more tolerent than Republicans wrapping themselves with the flag went they have a pipeline to protect…

  187. On the other hand maybe you were not playing with them. Maybe you did not want word of this incident to get back to your employer.

  188. wbboei
    December 27th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    ———————
    Excellent and well-balanced response to my comments. And one that I shall read over and over again as time goes on.

  189. “On the other hand maybe you were not playing with them. Maybe you did not want word of this incident to get back to your employer.”
    _____________________

    good point. I think, jesweezy was hinting he was a diplomat at the time and he may still be for all we know. He isn’t altogether forthcoming with all the facts up front when relating his personal anecdotal stories… He might have been waiting until the police were so irate at his disrespectful attitude, then he would flash his diplomat ID in a show of (you can’t touch me) superiority… (diplomatic immunity)

  190. wbboei
    December 27th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    &

    Mrs. Smith
    December 27th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    —————————–

    Well said.

  191. “A friend of mine who is a counsellor maintains that Hillary is not the same person she was in the campaign, and part of the reason for this is she never gave herself the time to grieve over the loss. If she takes a step back from public life now, that could be the best thing in the world for her, and it does not preclude her from reentering public life at some future time.”
    __________________________

    I don’t believe that diagnosis for a second. For one thing Hillary doesn’t dwell on defeat, it drives her ten times harder to succeed- which I have no doubt she will do on the next try. Hillary has made the best choice she could have adding to her resume. Her name in the headlines daily and weekly.Keeping her name fresh, as actively doing good things for her country.

    Where would she finish in the popularity polls had she listened to a counselar telling her to take time off and grieve… laughable!

  192. wbboei: “My bullshit detector tells me there is more to this story than you are letting on.”

    There is, and I see that you are determined to drag it out of me, so here goes:

    “First of all, I find it unlikely that neighbors would ask to have you deported for supporting the French position on the Iraq War. That is not legal grounds for deportation. Neither is being a francophile, as you apparently are.”
    ***
    The neighbors were “free” citizens which, in the American sense of freedom, means they can think and say anything they want without being accountable for it. I was just back from a long stay in France, which the neighbors knew, and I was quite vocal in my support of the French veto at the UN along with the 130 or so countries who supported that veto. This infuriated the neighbors, who were part of Dubya’s cheerleading squad, and they put 2 and 2 together and came to the conclusion (like gonzotx upthread) that I couldn’t be American. To their eyes, I was the worst thing on the planet: French.

    Remember that, at the time of the veto, New Yorkers were so outraged that they decided en masse that “French fries” would theretofore be re-dubbed “Freedom fries”, and there were scenes of restaurant owners pouring French wine down the sewer. Americans have always been at best ambivalent about the French; and at times this ambivalence goes very very negative, because the French are “stinking independent” (my mother’s expression) in their thinking. Early 2003 was one of those very negative times. Coming home from France, I should have just kept my mouth shut.
    ****

    “Second, I find it equally unlikely that the local police who are charged with preserving the public order would respond to a call for deportation because you supported the French position on Iraq.”
    ******

    I thought it unlikely too. But it happened. The neighbor had told the police she was sure I was in the country illegally. It would have been reasonable for the police to shove the matter off onto the Immigration Service, but they didn’t. They took it on themselves.
    ******

    “On the other hand it there was a public disturbance or threats against individuals then that could provide a basis for a legitimate exercise of the police powers. Knowing how these feuds can get out of hand, are you sure there was none of that on your part?”

    There were no public or private disturbances, except I knew one of the neighbors was looking for a fight.
    ***********

    “Third, you may have a legal right to refuse to provide identification, as you would routinely when cashing a check. But why would you refuse, unless you were in an agitated state of mind. That may explain why the police showed up.”

    Hey look, if there was any agitation in my mind at all, it was after the six police showed up in their 2 shiny cars, and not before. As to why I would refuse, I only refused because they were doubting my US nationality and, to underscore my nationality, I told them they had no right to ask me for ID.

    But then I showed them the passport anyway.

    A driver’s license (which I didn’t have at the time) is often used as ID in the US, but it is purely voluntarily to show it except when you’re stopped on the road. When you’re cashing a check, you may think it’s compulsory to show your driver’s license, so people get in the habit of thinking a DL is an ID card and if the cops ask for it, you’re obliged to show it. You’re not.
    ***********

    “Fourth, why would you let them figure out that you worked for a federal agency which is not the foreign service. It seems to me you were playing with them the same way that Professor Gates was playing with them.”

    OK, maybe I was playing with them. I don’t see it that way. They wanted proof of nationality, which they had no right or reason to ask, but I gave them proof of nationality in the form of a US passport. I played their game. It was the “leader” (sergeant?) who examined this strange document the likes of which he had never seen before, and asked me who issued it. I told him it was issued by the State Department, an agency of the Federal Government, which was over his head. He concluded I was a Federal Agent (and not Foreign Service, which I’m sure he had never heard of), and that suited me just fine because I had been a federal agent for 20 years.
    *********

    “On the other hand you would probably say you were upholding the Constitution and you cite this as proof that the State of Arizona is wrong in demanding to see id where there is just cause, which is the latest iteration of the Arizona Law. This seems pretty far fetched to me. There has got to be more to the story.”

    I don’t see what the problem is here. I said I think the Arizona law is a good one but it raises constitutional problems. In this case, if the Arizona law had existed in Florida in 2003:

    – The cops would not have queried me in the first place, because there was no collateral infraction they were investigating;

    – The result would have been the same: I am a US citizen and at the time I was carrying the absolute best proof that anyone can produce, in the form of a US passport.

  193. Mrs. Smith: “When someone has lodged a complaint against you- as you claim your neighbors did. You bet you had better have an ID. And if you don’t, you will be taken down to the station, if you cannot produce a valid ID.”
    ***********

    No, no need for ID even if I’m taken to the station. It’s simply not required in the US. At the station, I’d be “John Doe”.
    *************

    Mrs. Smith: “you are addicted to moving the goal posts on the playing field between responses. Just like you did earlier, adding the neighbors wanted you deported (which I don’t believe) because you were supporting the French Veto of the Iraq War. Unless you were making a pest of yourself making the case for the French Veto of the Iraq war and ranting at them face to face. I tend to believe they just wanted you to leave.”
    ******

    To leave what? The US? Their home? No problem there, I just leave. Which is what I did. But these 2 neighbors were very vindictive. See my explanation to wbboei above.
    *******

    “Hollywood, FL. is not Bush country neither is Florida for that matter a Red State.”
    **

    Not so fast, Jeb Bush was governor at the time and voted Dubya in 2004.

    *********
    “You would have been facing Democrats. Democrats are/were always more tolerent than Republicans wrapping themselves with the flag went they have a pipeline to protect…”

    You’re probably right about that; but Florida was Bush all the way in 2003-2005. Kerry lost there. It was great getting $ billions in federal aid to fix up after the little hurricanes we “suffered”. Wonder where those billions went…? The coffers were empty when Katrina rolled around. (Louisiana was Dem at the time.)

  194. wbboei: “On the other hand maybe you were not playing with them. Maybe you did not want word of this incident to get back to your employer.”
    _____________________

    Mrs. Smith: “good point. I think, jesweezy was hinting he was a diplomat at the time and he may still be for all we know. He isn’t altogether forthcoming with all the facts up front when relating his personal anecdotal stories… He might have been waiting until the police were so irate at his disrespectful attitude, then he would flash his diplomat ID in a show of (you can’t touch me) superiority… (diplomatic immunity)”
    ***********

    I’ve been as forthcoming as I can be with this “anecdote”, in the sense that there are no more facts to tell… maybe some details.

    My attitude was not “disrespectful.” I addressed the “leader” as ‘officer’ and ‘sir’, and his “discovery” that I was (had been) a federal agent suited me just fine. It brought a successful end to the whole anecdote.

    My passport is not a diplomatic passport. It’s just a regular US passport with a couple of stamps in it. When I worked for the feds, I was based in France but was not a diplomat, not in the Foreign Service. From 1975 to 1995, my role was to use my French resources to develop cross-references in eastern Europe and the USSR, for whatever purposes they might serve for the US. Since 1995 I’ve been in business for myself, I have no “employer” as wbboei thinks.

  195. “When I worked for the feds, I was based in France but was not a diplomat, not in the Foreign Service. From 1975 to 1995, my role was to use my French resources to develop cross-references in eastern Europe and the USSR, for whatever purposes they might serve for the US.”
    _________________

    would that be CIA, NSA or FBI- Or as an independent contractor

  196. oh boy, what is this? regressing back to grade school? Some of you may be older than my mother, for god’s sake.

  197. Admin, time for a new article, eh?! The class crowd is bored and throwing paper planes at each other behind your back.

  198. From elsehwere:

    Film “The US vs. John Lennon” — how contemporary it is, by how similar Obama’s promises (and action) were to Nixon’s.

    An important film, especially in the current era stuff of wikileaks vs. Inappropriate government zecrets, as it’s also tangentially about that.

  199. wbboei

    jeswezey

    ——————————-
    My bullshit detector tells me there is more to this story than you are letting on.

    ———–
    I see Mrs. Smith and wbb are like two bloodhounds after the truth…………again.

    I honestly didn’t realize that while I was scratching my head and rolling my eyes 🙄 that my bullshit meter was going off too…I just didn’t recognize the signs. 😉

    I love the Big Pinkers…………….did I ever tell you that?

  200. jeswezey
    December 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    CIA.
    =============

    Heh, you are saying you were a full blooded American that was working in France for the CIA and yet…………….wait for it, think that America kind-of stinks in comparison to France and European countries.

    Really?

    Really?

  201. Shadowfax
    December 27th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    “A good fisherman sees another fisherman in the distance”…. Gordon Gekko

  202. Shadowfax
    December 27th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    =============

    No country is a monolith.

    Good thing Big Pink isn’t, either.

  203. Jeswezy

    Well, I’m sorry to shatter your hopes. This reminds me again of my run-in with the Hollywood FL police (and neighbors). If you dare to differ, the simple-minded try to run you out of the house
    ***********

    Simple minded. You have such a way with words. You are delusional to think America’s military might has not protected the European communities since WW2…on our dime…And yes, they do have 5 week “holidays” per year.

    And your being American…well I guess we will have to take your word for it, kind of like a RINO or the Frauds…you are a AINO…sounds like…well, I’ll let you decide.

  204. People keep emailing me asking me if Hillary plans to step down…if only the Big Pink crystal ball could tell me……….

    Seems like the conservative shows are speculating again, or maybe the WhiteHouse is floating another stink bomb?
    ———

    WASHINGTON — Another disconnect between two White House spokesmen who are giving conflicting answers to coming changes in the Obama administration.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday that Americans shouldn’t look for any big changes in President Obama’s Cabinet as the new year gets under way.

    But two days earlier, senior adviser David Axelrod said “significant changes” will be announced after the president returns from his vacation in Hawaii.

    “This is a bubble. It’s been an intense couple of years, and there’s an advantage to bringing in folks who have a fresh set of senses — smell, touch and feel — about what’s going on out there,” Axelrod told The New York Times in an article published Thursday.

    Officials have already announced big departures from the economic team — former Council of Economic Advisers chief Christina Romer left already, and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers is headed out shortly after the new Congress convenes. Jacob Lew has already replaced Peter Orszag as head of the Office of Management and Budget.

    Calling the president’s team “very talented,” Gibbs told CNN on Sunday that much work has yet to be done in the Treasury Department as well as at the Health and Human Services Department, which is responsible for implementing the new health insurance entitlement.

    “I don’t expect quite honestly big changes. I think we’ve had a very capable and good Cabinet that has helped move the president’s agenda forward,” he said.

    Elsewhere, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a holdover from the Bush administration, has been very clear about his intention to leave in 2011.

    The Washington Examiner reported Saturday that outgoing New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson could succeed Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. Citing “numerous sources” saying Richardson may replace Clinton and wants a job in the Obama administration and Clinton may be interested in taking a break, the paper noted Richardson’s recent “unofficial” trip to Pyongyang to try to ease tensions between the North and South Korea.

    Richardson said Friday that he twice briefed the administration since his return.

    Gibbs and Axelrod are also expected to shift roles. Axelrod is leaving the White House to gin up the president’s re-election campaign, while Gibbs may move to another role within the executive office.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/26/gibbs-big-cabinet-changes-coming/

  205. Hillary Clinton is the Most Admired Woman this year, her ninth consecutive year at No. 1.

    In fact, the order of the top six women named in 2010 is identical to 2009, with Sarah Palin, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Condoleezza Rice, and Queen Elizabeth following Clinton.

    TC

  206. I want one of these jobs!
    *************

    BELTWAY CONFIDENTIAL
    POLITICS FROM THE NATION’S CAPITAL
    The power of unions: Average stagehand at Lincoln Center in NYC makes $290K a year

    TAGS: benefits carnegie hall lincoln center salaries stagehands union excess

    By: Mark Hemingway 12/27/10 11:16 AM

    Columnist James Ahearn of New Jersey’s Bergen Record has a great column today on, of all things, the stagehands at New York city’s top performing arts venues such as Lincoln Center and Carnegie Hall. These are not highly skilled or technical jobs but take a gander at how much they are paid:

    At Avery Fisher Hall and Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Center, the average stagehand salary and benefits package is $290,000 a year.

    To repeat, that is the average compensation of all the workers who move musicians’ chairs into place and hang lights, not the pay of the top five.

    Across the plaza at the Metropolitan Opera, a spokesman said stagehands rarely broke into the top-five category. But a couple of years ago, one did. The props master, James Blumenfeld, got $334,000 at that time, including some vacation back pay.

    Ahern also notes that the top paid stagehand at Carnegie Hall makes $422,599 a year in salary, plus $107,445 in benefits and deferred compensation. So why such exorbitant pay? You probably already guessed that a union is involved:

    How to account for all this munificence? The power of a union, Local 1 of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. “Power,” as in the capacity and willingness to close most Broadway theaters for 19 days two years ago when agreement on a new contract could not be reached.

    Wakin reported that this power was palpable in the nervousness of theater administrators and performers who were asked to comment on the salary figures.

    Kelly Hall-Tompkins, for one, said, “The last thing I want to do is upset the people at Carnegie Hall. I’d like to have a lifelong relationship with them.” She is a violinist who recently presented a recital in Weill Hall, one of the smaller performance spaces in the building.

    She said she begrudged the stagehands nothing: “Musicians should be so lucky to have a strong union like that.” Uh-huh.

    Be sure and read Ahearn’s whole column. And next time someone tells you unions are just about fair wages for an honest day’s labor, remember that’s not always the case. All too often they’re about power and greed. This is also true for public sector unions — see the cover story in today’s Examiner on the pay of local officials in the DC area, “Salaries of local government brass top Biden’s, Cabinet secretaries.”

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/12/power-unions-average-stagehand-lincoln-center-nyc-makes-290k-year#ixzz19Mpqtc4Y

  207. Shadowfax
    December 27th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Hillary Clinton is the Most Admired Woman this year, her ninth consecutive year at No. 1.
    ____________________________

    Hillary has rockstar status worldwide. She is the only viable candidate with the gravitas to represent America, The WORLD’s ONLY Superpower, as president.

  208. CNN: White House Laughs Off Rumors Of Hillary Clinton Being Replaced

    Matt Schneider
    December 27th, 2010

    According to CNN’s White House correspondent Ed Henry, who just spoke to a senior administration official while in Hawaii with the vacationing President, there is no truth to any of the rumors that Hillary Clinton will step down from her post as Secretary of State and be replaced by Governor Bill Richardson. The idea is completely “not true” and being “laughed off” by the administration, although other staff reshuffling is likely.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-white-house-laughs-off-rumors-of-hillary-clinton-being-replaced/

  209. Utter nonsense indeed!

    —————

    BLANKLEY: No comeback for the comeback kid

    Obama hasn’t overcome his opponents but emboldened them

    By Tony Blankley
    The Washington Times
    Monday, December 27, 2010

    Don’t believe all the Washington talk that President Obama had a great lame-duck session and goes into the new year and the new 112th Congress with the whip hand. It’s utter nonsense.

    Let’s review the lame-duck session as it happened – not as it has been instantly revised by the ever-obliging Washington press corp.

    In the first week or so, the president capitulated to Ronald Reagan’s supply-side theory that tax cuts expand the economy and tax increases contract it. The central policy was not to let the George W. Bush tax cuts expire, not only because that would be tough on middle-class taxpayers but also, the White House argued, because keeping tax rates down would be good for the economy.

    Even the great triangulator, Bill Clinton, never conceded this point. In 1993, he raised taxes by about $400 billion to manage the deficit. And, while the economy slowed briefly to a mere 1.9 percent growth of gross domestic product, the new dot-com technology business brought us the great economic expansion of the later 1990s, and thus Mr. Clinton never conceded to the supply-side theory.

    Don’t think Mr. Obama merely took a week of embarrassment for that concession in December. We economic conservatives still are cheerfully reminding the public half a century later that President Kennedy endorsed supply-side marginal tax cuts. You can bet Republicans will be reminding the public decades from now that “even Barack Obama” agreed to supply-side tax-cut theory “way back in 2010.” This is a historical intellectual capitulation of the first order by the Democratic Party president.

    After that political defeat, the president had to endure another weak week when his party leaders in the Senate tried to jam through a trillion-dollar spending bill with more than 6,000 earmarks. Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky held firm, and Tea Partiers across the country began to roar – and Mr. Obama’s allies quickly capitulated, with the White House agreeing to a short-term extension of spending, importantly leaving most of the 2011 spending in the hands of the incoming 112th Congress, not the infamous spendthrift 111th.

    This was a second defeat for Mr. Obama and his party – which, please remember, continued to hold its huge majorities in both the House and the Senate.

    The final week of the lame-duck session is the thin reed on which Mr. Obama’s supposed lame-duck success is constructed. He lost on his goal of passing the Dream Act – which was designed to appeal to Hispanic votes. However, he succeeded – on a bipartisan basis – in ending “don’t ask don’t tell (DADT) and getting the new START confirmed.

    Passage of the DADT repeal was a legislative victory. But if – as most of our nonpoliticized senior military officers and about 60 percent of our combat-troop rank and file think – this new policy will reduce recruitment and re-upping at a time when combat-troop shortages are already hampering field success – there may be a long-term price for this short-term legislative success. If, on the other hand, no serious problems emerge, I don’t think the DADT repeal gives Mr. Obama any special political advantage in the out years.

    Finally, New START was confirmed in the Senate with most Democratic senators and a large handful of Republicans. This is hardly a partisan triumph. Almost the entire Republican foreign-policy establishment supported it. Even the Republican senators who opposed its December passage were only holding out for some minor amendments on nuclear modernization and missile-defense authorization.

    They got a promise from the president of $80 billion for nuclear modernization – which six months ago would have been called a GOP triumph – and still is.

    They also got a letter from the White House saying that the treaty does not conflict with our right to develop missile defense – another triumph for the GOP from a White House that has shown little enthusiasm for our defensive technologies.

    Only because the Republican Senate leaders unshrewdly did not take yes for an answer – and continued to oppose START – did the president get the appearance of a victory.

    In fact , despite Mr. Obama’s belief that it is historically consequential, the confirmation of the New START is a minor foreign-policy matter. (Thirty years ago, during the Cold War, it would have been a central accomplishment.) The real nuclear threats today are from Iran and North Korea – on both fronts of which Mr. Obama is an utter failure, as was his predecessor, George W. Bush.

    Despite the sobriquet “the Comeback Kid” given to Mr. Obama by the brilliant, normally politically spot-on conservative gentleman and columnist Charles Krauthammer, Mr. Obama has not come back.

    Mr. Clinton gave himself that compliment after he came in second in the New Hampshire Democratic Party presidential primary just days after he and Hillary had appeared on “60 Minutes” to admit, in the face of the Gennifer Flowers illicit sex scandal, that their marriage had been rocky but would survive (which it famously has.). In Mr. Clinton’s case, he has come back politically.

    In Mr. Obama’s case, he enters 2011 facing more than 80 new Republican members of Congress and senators, most of whom would make Barry Goldwater look soft on limited government and deficit spending.

    On those central issues of 2011, Mr. Obama either capitulates or storms in defiance and gridlock. He has not come back from political crisis – he has only inflamed his formidable opposition across the country.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/27/no-comeback-for-the-comeback-kid/

  210. wbboei & Mrs. Smith,

    I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. As much as we want to think Hillary is superwoman, she wouldn’t be human if she didn’t have some resentments for the way the dims and obama cheated her out of what was rightfully hers. I also think that she felt very bad for her many supporters that they had to witness so much corruption.

    As well, her job as SOS has been a rollercoaster one. She is doing the job of 10 people and doing it very well, in spite of obama’s constant screw ups. So if she wanted to step back for a little while, I could honestly see that happening. It doesn’t mean I don’t think she is up for 2012, I just mean that maybe she should think of herself and her family, take a break, and come back even stronger.

    jmo.

  211. Not that it’s anyone’s business, but I’ve heard her ankles criticized in past years, so hopefully it’s not some new health problem.

  212. Betty, perhaps you don’t know, Hillary has always had thick ankles, and that is the big reason for the pants suits.

  213. I hope I didn’t sound snappish. I didn’t mean it that way at all. I was just sort of embarassed to admit I’d read and remembered something like that. ;-/

  214. “I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.”
    ___________________________

    I don’t mean to be blunt but NO it does not. The only reason Krauthammer is complimentary towards Obama is because Republicans are setting up for Obama. Obama thinks they are his new best friends. He couldn’t be more wrong- All Krauthammer is doing is smoothing the way for McConnell and Graham taking Obama by the hand and guiding him in their direction down the bridle path.

    Obama is about to experience ‘real’ politicians seasoned on the political battlefield teaching him a few new lessons, lessons that will change his life and ours.

    Blankley is spot on with his analysis. After the New Year passes, you will see how Republicans operate on a Democrat who thinks he is invincible and untouchable as every new president does. Just be patient and watch the drama unfold. AFAICS, the one redeeming factor of this whole mess is the Republicans HATE Soros… and they will work day and night to defeat him.

    Everyday I am thankful, early on wbboei and confloyd spent many hours doing the due diligence necessary gathering pertinent information profiling the monster metastasis Soros in a mini-biography contained in 12 easily read chapters.

    We need to understand ( at least I do ) what we are up against in order to fight and ultimately defeat it. Information is king. If we do nothing else but post new developments here, information people can read and absorb and pass along eventually reaching the eyes and ears of people that have the power and connections to thwart Soros- then we’ve been a help to ourselves and to people who have never heard of George Soros and never knew the extreme danger he poses to America.

  215. “As much as we want to think Hillary is superwoman, she wouldn’t be human if she didn’t have some resentments for the way the dims and obama cheated her out of what was rightfully hers. I also think that she felt very bad for her many supporters that they had to witness so much corruption.”
    _____________________

    Hillary is not only superwoman but she also has Superman by her side. Bill and Hillary learned early on to compartmentalize problems and move beyond the hurt you’ve described. Time is an asset that shouldn’t be wasted. Both of them have benefited greatly from that self-taught trick. Both of them have grown in leaps and bounds over the last two years. It wouldn’t have happened if they felt tired, beaten and went home to rest and licked their wounds dwelling on the people who hurt them. Sequestered themselves writing books choosing to live in the negative for payback. It only works that way in the movies usually ending in disaster. They’ve learned a long time ago to move on waiting for a another day- because they know in order to be effective, you have to deal from strength- not weakness.

    They’ve proved that theory in real time before our eyes. Most people don’t notice how they roll. But it’s worth a look. You take a page out of their book and use it when faced with adversity because it works.

    Hillary is no Lois Lane. Sure she was cheated not only by the Dems but the Republicans as well. Rove helped set up the time-lines for the FL and MI primaries with Donna Brazile. You remember how that went. Strategy, Policy and Rules are where the Republicans excel. Repubs didn’t want Hillary to be the Dem nominee because they knew she would most likely WIN. Do you think for a minute as president, she would have allowed Tax cuts across the board? Of course not. We need the revenue from the Rich to help offset the deficit. Then we wouldn’t be pulling money out of SS… but Republicans eventually want to kill SS. So you see, it was to their benefit to help Brazile and Pelosi… screw Hillary out of the nomination.

    The legislation that was passed last week contained the bills the “R’s” have waited for.. for two long years to come to the fore. Patience? Republicans lay out they strategy in 5 and 10yr blocks. Then they go to work making it happen.

    Things are going to get interesting, Jan- Obama and the R’s will be on a blissful honeymoon for a time. Meanwhile, the dems he screwed in Congress will be waiting for him with their knives in full view. The only advise I have for Obama is “grab your cigarettes and gird your loins”!

  216. Mrs S.

    Hillary is not only superwoman but she also has Superman by her side. Bill and Hillary learned early on to compartmentalize problems and move beyond the hurt you’ve described. Time is an asset that shouldn’t be wasted. Both of them have benefited greatly from that self-taught trick. Both of them have grown in leaps and bounds over the last two years.

    [snip}

    Hillary is no Lois Lane. Sure she was cheated not only by the Dems but the Republicans as well. Rove helped set up the time-lines for the FL and MI primaries with Donna Brazile. You remember how that went. Strategy, Policy and Rules are where the Republicans excel.

    [snip]

    Things are going to get interesting, Obama and the R’s will be on a blissful honeymoon for a time. Meanwhile, the dems he screwed in Congress will be waiting for him with their knives in full view.

    —> Big YUPs to these points!!

    The next two years are going to be the deconstruction of SS and underfunding to all things that help the middle, working class.
    Things will get ugly, and BarryBoy will be trying to spin these losses as his personal accomplishments.
    The Rethugs will claim it is only the Tea Party holding their feet to the fire.

  217. Britain’s National Health Service (NHS), the role model for Obama’s health-care travesty, has just announced cuts for next year totaling £20 billion, or about $30 billion. The head of the 400,000-person Royal College of Nursing, Dr. Peter Carter, said that patients could die as staffing levels are reduced to dangerously low levels. At least 27,000 posts are due to disappear, and “many more posts are at risk,” he said. These are “ill-advised short-term cuts to save money…. There are well-documented examples in recent times of disastrous failing that can occur in part through staffing deficits.”

    The Guardian notes that Carter was referring to the fact that at Stafford Hospital between 400 and 1,200 patients were found to have died because of inadequate care. “Services for older people and mental health patients are already being hit by a loss of experienced nurses,” the Guardian reports.

    The head of the British Medical Association concurred that “the service is palpably changing for the worse in front of our eyes.”

    In the U.S., yesterday’s New York Times reports, as its lead page one article, that the Obama Administration is implementing a euthanasia policy against seniors, in the guise of end-of-life planning — which had been rejected by Congress during the debate on the health-care bill in the fall of 2009.

    A regulation issued by Donald Berwick, Director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services in November, set to take effect on January 1, authorizes Medicare to pay for “voluntary advance care planning” as part of the annual physical examination (the “wellness visit”) provided for in the Obama health-care bill. (This euthanasia provision is included in a new regulation implementing the Obamacare bill, published in the Federal Register on Nov. 29, 2010, on pages 73406 and 73613-73614.)

    This is a resurrection of the infamous Section 1233 of the House health-care bill, which was authored by euthanasia advocate Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and the Hemlock Society, now doing its dirty business under the name “Compassion and Choices”. Section 1233 was killed by the Senate.

    But Berwick’s proposal goes even further than the rejected Section 1233; the latter authorized end-of-life counseling every five years, whereas the Berwick regulation encourages such counseling on an annual basis.

    When Berwick included this in his regulation issued in November, Rep. Blumenauer ordered his supporters to keep quiet about it in an email sent to supporters. Blumenauer stated: “Thus far, it seems that no press or blogs have discovered it, but we will be keeping a close watch…. The longer this goes unnoticed, the better our chances of keeping it.”

    If President Obama is not removed from office, he and Soros will impose a fascist dictatorship on the United States on behalf of their oligarchical controllers, using the unilateral “unitary executive” powers already pioneered by Bush and Cheney over the past decade. LPAC (larouchepac.com) is the only place I know offering a coherent plan and leadership of a plan for turning this around. Just as you probably cannot explain to your coworkers or neighbors what you see happening in the news and politics, I cannot explain in a blog comment here what I see. I offer for your consideration a short daily update video report. http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17011

  218. (This euthanasia provision is included in a new regulation implementing the Obamacare bill, published in the Federal Register on Nov. 29, 2010, on pages 73406 and 73613-73614.)

    This is a resurrection of the infamous Section 1233 of the House health-care bill, which was authored by euthanasia advocate Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and the Hemlock Society, now doing its dirty business under the name “Compassion and Choices”. Section 1233 was killed by the Senate.

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    How about quoting the actual provisions/documents instead of just asserting that they include ‘euthanasia’?

  219. wbboei & Mrs. Smith,

    I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. As much as we want to think Hillary is superwoman, she wouldn’t be human if she didn’t have some resentments for the way the dims and obama cheated her out of what was rightfully hers. I also think that she felt very bad for her many supporters that they had to witness so much corruption.

    As well, her job as SOS has been a rollercoaster one. She is doing the job of 10 people and doing it very well, in spite of obama’s constant screw ups. So if she wanted to step back for a little while, I could honestly see that happening. It doesn’t mean I don’t think she is up for 2012, I just mean that maybe she should think of herself and her family, take a break, and come back even stronger.
    ———————————
    Jan–I just got home and saw your post. You make some excellent points. But I am not sure what you mean by a middle ground. I do know there is a reality here and it is not shaped by our hopes and dreams but by a realistic appraisal of the obstacles that lie in Hillary’s path to the presidency. They have been alluded to by others over the past several days so there are no surprises in what I am about to say. At this point, the two most formidable obstacles are the transmogrification of the Democratic Party under Obama and the transmogrification of big media. Transmogrification means to change form grotesquely.

    What we have under Obama is a party which violates its most sacred principles, disenfranchises its members, engages in intimidation, cheats to win, is sexist to the hilt, calls people racists when they disagree, and is too arrogant to listen to constituents. This is not individual indiscretions–it is policy and it comes from the top. Thugs now run the party, and those thugs have crossed the Rubicon. This will become evident if the Republican leadership in the House, reads every line of the Health Care Bill into the record, until it becomes for its supporters in congress the death by a thousand cuts. Obama got the headline he wanted. Now let him pay for it. I differ with some on this blog in one sense however. They think the situation is salvageable whereas I am quite sure it is not.

    What we have under Obama is a press which did everything it could to destroy the Clintons. We saw parts of it with our own eyes, I wrote about it extensively in that paper The Real Story of the 2008 Primary, but nothing could compare with the White House insiders account of how perverse the media really was during the campaign. Bias, half truths, lies, cover-ups, innuendos and every other despicable act they could imagine. They knew exactly what they were doing–manipulating the facts, playing on mass psychology to ensure their candidate was nominated and then elected. And now with the exception of FOX they are nothing more than state run media. They will not change. It is the people of this country who must change if they are to have any hope of preserving their nation. They must stop listening to these propagandists.

    Hillary and Bill must see the same situation we do. We see it as observers, they see it as players, but I would be very surprised if they see it much differently. At one time we believed there would be a walk out at the convention. Never happened. Later we were sure a judge would find that he was not a US citizen. Never happened. We believed the Republicans would beat him. It did not happen. We felt if the midterm election was decisive then the party would turn to the Clintons to take over. It has happened in a limited way, but not in the way he intended. So where is the catalyst which will cause the party to throw him out. One begins to suspect that with big media on his side and black control of the party nothing will change, and any white candidate in the future will have to toe the black line. Therefore, in a strange reversal of want Deans said, namely that the Republican Party has become the white peoples party, the Democratic Party has become the black peoples party. And that means people now have a choice. We know how 90% of 13% of the electorate will vote. That may carry the party but it will not carry the country.

  220. How about quoting the actual provisions/documents instead of just asserting that they include ‘euthanasia’?
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    They don’t include the term ‘euthanasia’ any more than military reports include ‘slaughter of unarmed civilians, women and children.’ I didn’t say, nor mean to infer they did. I would think anyone could see that. It is a policy of deliberately killing old or very ill people.

    The legalize of the regulations, with sections, subsections, definitions and amendments to other of the same, is a pain to read or type. The FR is downloadable in PDF form if someone wants it, though.

    The point is that Obama keeps pushing the euthanasia policy through, one way or the other, and the people involved have a history.

    You might find this worth a glance:
    http://www.lifetree.org/resources/polstInfo.html
    “Physician’s Orders for Life Sustaining Treatment: ‘Self-Determination’ or Imposed Death?”

  221. Better tell them it’s all a hoax!

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    Climate change is affecting the cultivation of Assam tea, with rising temperatures reducing yields and altering the distinctive flavour of India’s most popular drink, researchers say.

    High hills and abundant rainfall make the north-eastern state of Assam an ideal place to grow tea, with 850 gardens over 320,000 hectares (593,000 acres) producing the majority of the country’s harvest. But in the last 60 years, rainfall has fallen by more than a fifth and minimum temperature has risen by a degree to 19.5C.

    “This is clearly climate change, and it is bound to have major impact on the tea industry,” said Debakanta Handique, a climate scientist in Assam.

    The Tea Board of India said it had recorded a steady decline in tea production in recent years. In 2007, Assam produced 512,000 tonnes of tea. By 2008 this had declined to 487,000 tonnes, with estimated production in 2009 down again to 445,000. A further decrease is expected this year.

    Mridul Hazarika, director of Tocklai Tea Research, the oldest tea research station in the world, said rainfall and minimum temperature were two of the most important factors affecting both quality and quantity of harvests.

  222. The final version of the health care legislation, signed into law by President Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover “voluntary advance care planning,” to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit.

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    That means “Living Will”, DNR orders, etc. Are you really against those?

    Those documents are already available and used. This just means if you want to talk to your doctor about them, Medicare will PAY for that part of the visit.

    Do you think people should fill those out without doctor’s input? Or not have any Living Will or DNR at all?

  223. That means “Living Will”, DNR orders, etc. Are you really against those?

    Those documents are already available and used. This just means if you want to talk to your doctor about them, Medicare will PAY for that part of the visit.

    Do you think people should fill those out without doctor’s input? Or not have any Living Will or DNR at all?

    =================

    Do you really think Peter Orszag, the CEO of an insurance company or Obama give a shit about your life or the life of your loved ones, or your financial well-being, or that of your doctor?

    I think they should have no part in whatever you and your doctor discuss or decide between you. The reason for them being involved is only because there is a perceived shortage of money (it all went to bail-out the financial-speculating casinos) and a shortage of infrastructure (it has been taken-down by the financier elite.)

    From the last link I offered:

    […] POLST facilitates imposed death. It creates an illusion of “self-determination” while fostering consensus ethics. It is vague as a legal document, and the iterative, goal-oriented process is designed to reduce the use of what some ethicists call “inappropriate” treatments, but what others may call ordinary and life-enhancing. The documents may be used by a wide range of health care workers, many of whom do not know the patient personally. In short, the POLST process rigs the system in favor of pressuring the patient and family.

    Although not writing about POLST specifically, bioethicist Wesley J. Smith has illustrated the effect of this sort of process:

    I hear often from people who believe they or their aged/ill/disabled loved ones are being pressured into refusing treatment–usually not by being brow beaten or yelled at–but from a constant, drip, drip, drip of conversation after conversation after conversation, which only end when the patient agrees to what the doctor or ethics committee want. In this phenomenon of the never-ending-conversation, people often perceive an attempt to wear them down by sheer exhaustion into acquiescing.[13]

    Smith’s “drip, drip, drip” sums up the POLST process rather well.

  224. jeswezey: “CIA”

    Shadowfax: “Heh, you are saying you were a full blooded American that was working in France for the CIA and yet…… wait for it, think that America kind-of stinks in comparison to France and European countries. Really?”
    ************

    You may not realize that CIA is loaded with people whom you might consider to be “pacifist” or even “treasonous”, depending on your own outlook. The reason for CIA’s existence is not to tout the merits of American civilization but to collect, analyze and report information on a great many subjects from around the world. The brass get to advise State, Defense and the President on policy matters, and then there is the ugly “operations” branch that works only in Latin America.

    I never met or knew of anyone in the agency who felt that ‘patriotism’ meant they had to compare America favorably with other countries at all times, or at all period. We were not in the business of comparing America with other countries. And I never met anyone who thought, like W did, that shoot-‘em-up diplomacy and cowboy militarism was the answer to anything.

    Having said this, I fully reserve my right as an American citizen to express an informed opinion about such things as the health care systems in France and the United States and, in this respect, I think that the American robber baron health care system not only “kind-of-stinks” but sucks really, really bad.

    If you or gonzotx or nomobama think otherwise, I leave the burden of proof on you, because my opinion of the relative merits of these two systems is based not only on personal experience with both systems, but is backed up by the assessments of the WHO and of Bill and Hillary Clinton, whom you should not accuse of being unpatriotic, and of other informed observers.

    There are other areas in which I think the Europeans have surpassed us, but those opinions were not so fully formed at the time I was in CIA employ (1975-95). It was, I think, much to the agency’s credit that they accepted my proposal of cooperation in 1975, and in France, because I was able to show them that I had a full array of contacts among the “enemy” – the socialist movement in France headed by Mitterrand – and my contacts included Mitterrand himself. Furthermore, I made no secret of my personal sympathies toward the socialists, yet the agency accepted me.

    If you ever consider working for the agency yourself, I advise you to shed your drunken “America’s the greatest” attitude first, and do a sober groundwork investigation of some foreign country.

  225. Iirc I have actually filled out a POLST. It had options where I could stipulate ‘all possible care to prolong my life*.’

    The whole point of talking about this with your own doctor while you are still in good health, is to set up the POLST or Living Will or DNR the way you want it BEFORE you’re in any hospital or nursing home. Medicare paying the doctor to talk to you means you can have an unhurried, UNPRESSURED talk about it.

    (Not that there was any ‘drip drip’ when I was in the rest home after surgery. I couldn’t get any of them to take time to talk to me or bring me a form!)

    Obama’s attempts to stop care for elderly are coming in a different way: with some agency he’s setting up to set national standards for what treatments will be approved.

    *(I chose differently.)

  226. FCCCER
    Ah, that was the name of that thing.

    President Obama’s Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was sold as simply government helping doctors choose the best treatments. But there are dozens of medical journal review articles that do just that. The real purpose of such councils is ultimately to establish official criteria for denying reimbursement to less favored (because presumably less effective) treatments — precisely the triage done by the NICE committee in Britain [….]
    letters@charleskrauthammer.com
    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/27/AR2009082703262.html

    Another FCCCER purpose is to keep from ‘wasting’ money on patients who are going to die anyway — like giving his grandmother a new knee just months before her death from some unrelated condition.

  227. From elsewhere:

    T.R. Reid has a new book out called The Healing of America. Last year Frontline produced a program, Sick Around the World, in which Reid investigated health care systems in 5 other industrialized countries, some single payer like Canada’s (that would be Taiwan) and others completely private insurance based like our own (Switzerland, anyone?).

    The French private insurance system covers all 61 million residents of France, with excellent health results. There’s no “in-network” or “pre-authorization”; you can pick any doctor or hospital in France, and insurance has to pay the bill. Doctors are required to post their prices on the wall of the waiting room, so the mystery of American-style medical billing is removed.

    Everyone in France has a green plastic card, the carte d’assurance maladie. That card has completely replaced paper billing and medical records. The result: administrative costs of 3 percent, compared to 25 percent in the U.S.

    He then went on, for his book, to survey the health care systems of the 23 richest and most industrialized countries in the world (that includes the USA), the other 22 of which provide coverage to everyone, in one way or another, some public, some fully private, some a mix.

    Reid says: Nobody dies in those countries because they can’t see a doctor.

  228. I think they should have no part in whatever you and your doctor discuss or decide between you.

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    As it is now, the government DOES limit what you can discuss with your doctor — by refusing to pay for the discussion. Under the new rule, Medicare WILL pay for the discussion, so you CAN discuss whatever you want.

  229. “As much as we want to think Hillary is superwoman, she wouldn’t be human if she didn’t have some resentments for the way the dims and obama cheated her out of what was rightfully hers. I also think that she felt very bad for her many supporters that they had to witness so much corruption.”

    Mrs. Smith has a some good answers to the first sentence of this, but Hillary was once asked what a person’s greatest quality is, and she answered without batting an eyelash: “Forgiveness”. She gets this from her strong Methodist background, and she applies it to all aspects of her life.

    I think Bill may be the same way as concerns himself; but in political matters, he knows how to keep score, and does so. He will defend his own tooth and nail till his dying day, and Hillary and Chelsea are his own. In short, he may have overlooked the racist slurs against him in 2008, but he will never forget or forgive what was done to Hillary.

    As concerns the second assertion, the “she felt very bad for her many supporters”, I think that is completely true. Her “concession” speech of June 6 and her speech in Denver showed that. But in the final analysis, what was she to do? I think, in her mind, the whole thing was over on Nov 4.

  230. turndown, my American friend who married a french widow and live in France, is VERY HAPPY WITH HIS HEALTH INSURANCE

  231. NewMexicoFan: “However, he says they argue about the cost of it in the country all the time.”

    With insurance, one’s appreciation of it always depends on the payback. If you’re in good health and never go to the doctor, 10% of your income is too much to pay for health care. If you get sick and face medical expenses in the tens of thousands, suddenly your insurance doesn’t seem to be so expensive. I tried to explain that to nomobama, my “health freak” friend. Anyway, it’s the same thing with auto insurance, home insurance etc.

    One little-known aspect of the French system: When I came back to the states in early 2003, I declared a cessation of activities in France and thus paid no more of the social expenses, including health insurance. When I went back to France in 2005, the insurance told me I was still covered until July 2006, in other words 3 1/2 years after I had stopped paying into the system. And in that year before July 2006, I incurred a very expensive hospital bill, which was paid for “free”.

    This is part of the system in France: full coverage for everyone even if they are incapacitated or on disability, thus no longer working. And it still costs only 10.5% of GDP! Now when nomobama or others point out that there are occasional cost overshoots, I can at least say, “So what’s the point? Are you trying to say it costs 10.7% of GDP?” Go and compare that with the 18% GDP of health care in the US, to cover the 84% of the population least likely to get sick, and if they do get sick their insurance is dropped. No, people, the US system sucks really bad.

  232. turndownø – Your suggestion of government commissions deciding on euthanasia is eery. Again an example from France – I think it was in 2007 that a doctor was brought to court for inducing euthanasia. I don’t remember what the outcome of the trial was, but the trial prompted a national debate on the possibility of euthanasia when the patient wanted it and the family accepted, which proved to be true in this particular case. If I’m not mistaken, the doctor was released and allowed to continue her practice, which would mean that there is now case law (jurisprudence) allowing euthanasia. There was never any question of a government entity to decide such an issue.

  233. “I think Bill may be the same way as concerns himself; but in political matters, he knows how to keep score, and does so. He will defend his own tooth and nail till his dying day, and Hillary and Chelsea are his own. ***In short, he may have overlooked the racist slurs against him in 2008***, but he will never forget or forgive what was done to Hillary.”
    _______________________

    Nor should he forget what was done to Hillary- we haven’t, we feel the same way and will work our hearts our to help her reclaim what was to be hers all along.

    ***Bill inoculated himself against any future racial slurs by triangulating taking on Haiti as a relief project and at the same time adding to his presidential legacy. (Is a good example of the little understood mystique of triangulation.)

    hmmm…. jesweezy, you like play fighting, don’t you… you remind me of a friend on another forum who did too. He hated losing an argument and seldom did. He was more interested in the gamesmanship of the debate. His moniker related to something like a feral dog which suited his persona to a T.

  234. gonzotx: “You are delusional to think America’s military might has not protected the European communities since WW2…on our dime…”
    ****

    This whole NATO thing was conceived to protect West Germany, and thus the remainder of Europe, from the Soviets. West Germany was prohibited from having an army of its own and was obliged to pay the British, Americans and French for the protection of their respective zones. I don’t know if the accounts balanced exactly, but I’m sure you’ve kept track of that – just send the Germans a bill for what you think they owe you, and I’ll see to it they send you all the USD you want, and even let you keep the wheelbarrow.
    ***********

    “And yes, they do have 5 week “holidays” per year.”
    ******

    Yes, I know the French have 5 weeks of paid vacation, but I don’t think the Germans do. How much do the French owe you for that?

  235. gonzotx: The French also have a 13th and sometimes 14th month year-end bonus, though this is not generalized to all companies. Do they owe you anything for that?

    Also, further to your remark about America’s military might, my delusional mind clearly remembers that De Gaulle asked the US to get out of France and then he withdrew from NATO, a stance France maintained for the remainder of the Cold War. The saber-rattling of the Cold War didn’t faze the French or, for that matter, anyone else on the old continent.

    France rejoined NATO just in time for W to invoke Article 5 and get all European countries to defend Amurika against something in Afghanistan. So when it comes to actual warfare, and not just saber-rattling, it has been the Europeans who have paid the price of American defense or whatever you imagine is going on in Afghanistan, way outside the European theater.

  236. Mrs. Smith: “…you like play fighting, don’t you…”

    What do you mean by that? I don’t feel as if I’ve been either playing or fighting, ‘cept maybe with gonzotx…

  237. Mrs. Smith “He hated losing an argument and seldom did.”

    That’s not my style. Losing means nothing to me, I never take it personally. For example, I used to be an avid chess player, but very much preferred to play against someone who could beat me because, as the Japanese say, “Loser is winner.” That says it all: If you win, you get your lollipop; but if you lose, you learn something and play better the next time.

    At the same time, when I played against an inferior player, I would tell him or her what I was planning to do, or could possibly do, on my next moves. That raised the challenge of the game for me and helped the other player learn something. It no longer mattered who won or lost.

    Do you feel I’ve been trying to win an argument at all costs upthread?

    In discussions, I try to lay out my arguments clearly and convincingly, yes, and am in no way subject to intellectual conformism or “groupthink”; but I’m always happy to find out something that adds to or subtracts from my line of thinking because nobody knows everything and I’m not interested in trying to prove that I do.

  238. Here’s my two cents…I think Hillary lives by her own principles. If she has said “forgiveness” the a person’s best quality….then she will have an amazing ability to forgive. It makes sense that she is able to do that, otherwise how else could she keep working with all the people who have done her wrong….the list is very long!

    I also think that pic of Hillary’s ankles are very swollen, but if she’s gained an extra few pounds and is sitting constantly at a desk…it’s pretty normal for edema to hang on to the ankles….I have that problem too and I’m pretty healthy! As I’ve lost weight its less apparent. Of coarse I’ve cut down on my salt and I’ve 39 lbs…hooray!

  239. BTW! My daughter called me all worried because she said Fox News is saying Hillary may retire! I haven’t heard that…but I promised to call her if anything earth shattering like that were to happen!

  240. jeswezey
    December 28th, 2010 at 10:05 am
    *********
    The Germans do have 5 weeks. I have a visitor 4 weeks a year from Germany. Poor little thing, she doesn’t seem to know that that the real Europeans, the sophisticated, arrogant and elitist Europeans all visit themselves.

    All of Europe would have been under Russian rule without America’s military might.You can take that to the bank.

    Checkmate.

  241. jeswezey

    Don’t worry, I have no intention of ever working for the CIA, and I think Obamacare is pure crap. You assume way too much when assessing my opinions.

  242. “Do you feel I’ve been trying to win an argument at all costs upthread?”
    ____________________

    Of course- and/or cloud the issues- referred to as ‘moving the goal posts’ at your pleasure, as mentioned upthread.
    _______________________

    In discussions, I try to lay out my arguments clearly and convincingly, yes, and am in no way subject to intellectual conformism or “groupthink”; but I’m always happy to find out something that adds to or subtracts from my line of thinking because nobody knows everything and I’m not interested in trying to prove that I do.
    __________________________

    Well, that is why we are here (I am anyway) to add to or subtract from everyone’s line of thinking and hopefully generate new ideas that may lead to solutions never considered before. I try reading everyone’s posts with few exceptions. I cannot read blocks of print devoid of paragraphs separating one thought from another. To me it looks like a big ball of black twine rolled into a tightly wound sphere.

    But that is just my handicap and nothing to be concerned with. .
    ____________________

    “For example, I used to be an avid chess player, but very much preferred to play against someone who could beat me because, as the Japanese say, “Loser is winner.” That says it all: If you win, you get your lollipop; but if you lose, you learn something and play better the next time.”
    _________________

    I used to be an avid tennis player and was aware my game always improved when playing against someone with more experience learning tennis strategy of playing to your opponents weakness. (Usually a righty’s weaker backhand.) Yes, you are spot-on on that score.
    ___________________

    “In discussions, I try to lay out my arguments clearly and convincingly”

    I think you could demonstrate your prowess in laying out arguments clearly and (oh yes) convincingly (with ALL the facts at once) another time. Please point me to it, when you do- I wouldn’t want to feel cheated of a missed opportunity. I have an appointment and must go.

    bbl 🙂

  243. Shawdow
    *****

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2010 at 7:13 am

    If you ever consider working for the agency yourself, I advise you to shed your drunken “America’s the greatest” attitude first, and do a sober groundwork investigation of some foreign country.
    *********

    I think someone else here is literally “Drunk” .

  244. Administrator, we hope you are having a wonderful Christmas holiday. But selfishly we hope you come back REAL soon!

  245. Shadowfax: “Don’t worry, I have no intention of ever working for the CIA”

    You could do worse than to work for the agency if ever you want to do something for your country and get paid for it.
    ______________

    “…and I think Obamacare is pure crap…”

    Obamacare just makes everything worse. I was referring to the health care system without Obamacare. Really really sucks.

  246. How Richardson-to-replace-Clinton rumors started

    By Matthew Reichbach | 12.28.10

    Rumors of Bill Richardson replacing Hillary Clinton as U.S. Secretary of State exploded across the internet Monday and appear to have been started by a report from Examiner.com and have been falsely attributed to Washington Examiner — which is unrelated to Examiner.com — by Fox News, among other outlets.

    The Examiner.com report, which cited “numerous sources,” came from Dr. Michael Williams, an Albuquerque pastor on Christmas Eve. Williams also posted the report on his personal website.

    The governor’s spokeswoman Alarie Ray-Garcia told Steve Terrell at the Santa Fe New Mexican, “The Governor has no plans to leave New Mexico. He is looking forward to becoming a private citizen.”

    The unsourced reports went mostly unnoticed throughout the weekend. Only a Christmas Day article on Korea Times mentioned the report. The only sourcing on this post was from Examiner.com.

    The story became more widespread after Fox News mentioned it Monday. Fox News incorrectly sourced the story to Washington Examiner. As of this writing, Washington Examiner has not mentioned any story about Bill Richardson replacing Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.

    The Washington Examiner reported Saturday that outgoing New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson could succeed Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. Citing “numerous sources” saying Richardson may replace Clinton and wants a job in the Obama administration and Clinton may be interested in taking a break, the paper noted Richardson’s recent “unofficial” trip to Pyongyang to try to ease tensions between the North and South Korea.

    While both The Washington Examiner and Examiner.com are owned by Philip Anschutz, they are editorially separate.

    Locally, KOAT reported on the rumors, saying the “rumors cropped up on Korean media outlets, the Washington Examiner and Fox News.” KOAT included a denial from “Richardson’s staff.”

    Mediaite noted that the Washington, D.C., Fox affiliate also reported on “several reports” of Richardson potentially replacing Clinton.

    CNN’s Ed Henry reported Monday that there is “nothing to it.” And that “a senior administration official” said that it was “essentially being laughed off by the administration.”

    It is another example of how unsourced reports can quickly go from the least reputable of sources to discussion on cable news and on the internet.

    http://newmexicoindependent.com/68435/how-richardson-to-replace-clinton-rumors-started

  247. gonzotx: “…I have a visitor 4 weeks a year from Germany. Poor little thing, she doesn’t seem to know that that the real Europeans, the sophisticated, arrogant and elitist Europeans all visit themselves.”

    You seem to be a Europhobe. Sorry, but there have been and will be times here when I say things that annoy you no matter what. So be it.

    ______

    “All of Europe would have been under Russian rule without America’s military might.You can take that to the bank.”

    As I said, that was the fear that brought the whole containment policy into being, and NATO along with it. That fear lasted until the mid-60s, when De Gaulle realized he didn’t want US rule any more than USSR rule. What do you expect… the French are unruly. Send them your bill.

  248. jeswezey,

    You have my deepest sympathy. It seems you’ve fallen into the Big Pink black hole. It happens every so often, as pm317 pointed out, especially when admin is away for too long. Then it seems the paper planes and bullies come out in full force.

    It’s one reason I don’t blog here much, anymore.

    Save your energy and wait for the new post. That’s my unsolicited advice.

  249. Hillary was once asked what a person’s greatest quality is, and she answered without batting an eyelash: “Forgiveness”.

    =================

    And they askd what she finds easiest to forgive, and she answered: “Stupidity.”

    That could explain a LOT!

  250. turndown,
    Yes I think that explains Hillary’s whole life! If stupidity is the easiest for her to forgive, then she’s been real busy forgiving for the last 20 years or so! LOL! She’s just a wonderful person….how many really, really have that quality? Not many, especially in D.C.

  251. Your suggestion of government commissions deciding on euthanasia is eery.

    ======================

    That was Ohansen’s idea, from LaRouche. I said Medicare paying a doctor to talk about Living Wills etc was not, and even Obama’s FCCCCCR isn’t. FCCCCCR is just about refusing ordinary treatments (such as knee replacement). That’s bad enough, but let’s not exaggerate into paranoia.

  252. It is another example of how unsourced reports can quickly go from the least reputable of sources to discussion on cable news and on the internet.

    ================

    Heh. Like the Examiner report that got posted here of some ‘new,, secret’ poll that turned out to have been on a rightwing anti-Islam site since 2008. Examiner < Wash Times < YouGov < nuts.

    Why not just save time by not falling for Examiner or Wash Times stuff in the first place? Or at least tracing their cites.

  253. tim
    December 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    I never watched Oprah, so I don’t really care what she has to say, but for the ladies who did watch Oprah, what do you think of this?

    I know when Oprah endorsed Waffles over Hillary, and never once defended Hillary (or Sarah) against sexism, I was pretty stunned, here is a woman who made her entire career pretending to care about women, promoting women, and the first chance she gets at endorsing a woman for president or vp, and forget endorsing them, she won’t even lift a finger to defend them against the sexism she purports to fight.
    &&&&&&&

    Perhaps their gender couldn’t overcome their skin color.

  254. In Canada, living wills are very commonplace. My parents insisted on our whole family having them way before the government recommended them. And when it came time to make decisions for both my parents, it was so much easier and less heartbreaking to know what their wishes were as far as end of life care was concerned.

    I’ve had a living will since I was 18 years old. I am now 55 and would recommend them to everyone without pushing them to get one.

    The idea of the government legislating this is so unnecessary. The first thing doctors and hospitals here ask when admitting someone who is at risk of death or unable to make their own decisions is whether they have a living will. It makes it so much easier when the family is already dealing with so much pain.

    I have gone through this format twice with each of my beloved parents and it helped immensely that they had living wills already in place.

  255. I have gone through this format twice with each of my beloved parents and it helped immensely that they had living wills already in place.

    =================

    That’s what this Medicare thing is about. To pay for the doctor’s visit to help you set it up while in good health.

  256. The idea of the government legislating this is so unnecessary.
    **********
    Yes Jan, it is, and PAYING the Dr.’s to do it. Very creepy feel to it and you know it will not be the end of it. Dripping water, Chinese torture.
    ************

    And jesewesy, the reason I take acception to you and your remakes is because you sound like your drunk on your own Anti-American vomit you purge on this blog. I am a proud American and come from a family that has given service to this country for 200 years, many whom have given the highest sacrifice for your right to call yourself an American. For all that is wrong with this great country, so much more is right and is why still to this day people from all over the world give up everything to try to become American. America delivers to its citizens and to the members of the world thru its military service and generous donations. We are here on this blog because we believe Hillary has the best chance to keep America on that path and it was stolen from her and America,period. We all work in our own way to see if that disastrous blow to democracy can be righted, but I will not let anyone speak to this country in the terms you sprue. Believe me, it it not, and never was France that the world looks to in time of need.

  257. Jan,

    Was something ‘legislated’ in Canada? What?

    There’s no talk of individuals being required by law to do anything here — not even rumors of it.

  258. well this didn’t take very long…

    Bill Clinton and the Race Card in Chicago’s Race for Mayor

    by Mike Tobin | December 28, 2010

    Chicago mayoral hopeful Congressman Danny Davis (D-Ill.) insisted that he is not playing the race card as he threatens to turn the African American community against former President Bill Clinton, if he comes to the city of the big shoulders to stump for Rahm Emanuel.

    “It’s a friendship card,” Davis said, emphasizing the long relationship between himself and Clinton, who once wore the label “the First Black President.”

    You can read the language and judge for yourself.

    “The African American community has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the Clintons, however it appears as though some of that relationship may be fractured and perhaps even broken should former President Clinton come to town and participate overtly in efforts to thwart the legitimate political aspirations of Chicago’s Black Community,” Davis said in this morning’s release.

    Davis and former Senator Carol Moseley Braun poll at the top of the African American candidates in Chicago’s Mayoral free for all. However, Rahm Emanuel enjoys a comfortable overall lead and he is receiving considerable support from minority voters.

    “All we’re saying is give us a break,” Davis told me. “Let this thing play out and everything is going to be cool. Mr. President, don’t come. Don’t help Rahm.”

    Davis and his spokesperson repeatedly returned to the notion that he and the former President had shared origins from Arkansas and they were good friends.

    When I asked the spokesperson if this would end the long friendship, she responded, “We didn’t start it, He did.”

    Emanuel’s campaign declined to comment.

    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/12/28/bill-clinton-and-race-card-chicago-s-race-mayor

  259. turndown,

    It has never been legislated in Canada. Recommended yes but never legislated. Maybe I mispoke before but what I meant was that it is totally unnecessary for it to even be a part of your Medicare plan. It is an invasion of a person’s rights.

  260. What’s he thinking?
    State denies approving Richardson

    By MATT NEGRIN | 12/27/10

    The State Department is denying that any officials approved Bill Richardson’s trip to North Korea, days after the New Mexico governor said he had authorization from the Obama administration.

    Asked Monday whether Richardson had gotten the OK, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said, “Not that I’m aware of.” He added, “I think we said that it was a private visit all along.”

    Richardson said in TV interviews on Thursday that the administration “signed off” on his visit. “The administration said, ‘As long as you say that it’s a private trip, go ahead,’” he said.

    Toner told reporters on a conference call that he didn’t know why Richardson would think he had the approval of the State Department. “U.S. citizens are free to travel to North Korea in a private capacity,” he said.

    Toner also said the department had “nothing to say” about foreign news reports suggesting that Richardson would succeed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1210/whats_he_thinking_cce1108f-72f1-4444-b9bd-25c4b1a11fff.html

  261. Jan,

    You’ve said that you are in favor of Living Wills. I think there’s some confusion here. Maybe you should look at waht’s actually being proposed here. If a person WANTS to talk to their doctor about what to put in their Living Will (or similar documents) and Medicare offers to pay for that doctor visit — how is that an ‘invasion of rights’? It is giving the person MORE rights: right to a free consultation with the doctor.

  262. JanH
    December 28th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    well this didn’t take very long…

    Bill Clinton and the Race Card in Chicago’s Race for Mayor
    _______________________________

    Oh boy! What is this? Because of your color you can dictate what people can and cannot do? This is going to
    take the wisdom of Solomon to straighten this out.

    Unless- BC campaigns for both of them on different days- mentioning the qualies of each candidate and letting the people ultimately decide who will be the mayor…

    Otherwise, I can’t see BC backing down because of a threat of Davis and Braun playing the race card.

  263. Perhaps I am missing something here but according to what I read the inconsistency looks like this:

    1. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION authorized my trip–according to ff Richardson.

    2. As long as you say it is a PRIVATE TRIP–according to ff Richardson

    3. THE STATE DEPARTMENT is NOT AWARE that anyone in the Obama Administration authorized the tip–according to State Dept.

    4. THE STATE DEPARTMENT DID NOT AUTORIZE the trip–according to State Department

    4. Private citizens are free to travel to North Korea–according to State Department

    Did ANYONE in our Obama loving Obama protecting Obama promoting big media think to ask Richardson the simplest question is the world, one which logically follows from the foregoing: WHOM in the Obama Administration authorized–or to use your weasel words “signed off” on you taking this trip.

    That, I submit, is a material question because the announcement that he was going, and his claim that his trip was authorized coincided with the rumor that he would be replacing Hillary. If you know who authorized the trip–it may well have been Rice but that is just a hunch, it may lead to the big rat. But this line of inquiry is ignored by big media, because it might harm Obama.

  264. turndown,

    Why does it need to be added to medicare? There is so much information available from reputable medical sites about this issue it isn’t funny.

    My point is that the very idea of it being included, free or not, is subliminal persuasion and that is what I don’t like.

  265. wbboei
    December 28th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    —————-
    Judas set this quagmire up. He wants a second life in the limelight.

  266. The more I think about it the more I believe it was Rice, because Rice refused to coordinate with State or Defense on the Korean issue. It therefore follows that she would be inclined to do something like that so Richardson could serve as her eyes and ears on the ground. If that is what happened, then it was done covertly, and it points to the problem I have been harping on which is no unity of command, everyone does their own thing, and Barack–well he does Christmas Parties and long vacations. In the inimitable words of Alfred E Neuman–what me worry. What an empty suit he is–not Neuman–Barack.

  267. And because it is a direct hit at Hillary, who has yet to forgive this slime, the media and Judas are relishing every moment.

  268. Don’t you wish the Clintons would stop sticking their chins out there to be punched again? Bill should not be campaigning for Rahm in The cesspool of Chicago politics. Even if he thinks he is getting some future benefit from it, they are liars and will deny him the help when he asks for it. Hillary should not be answering questions about what she plans to do in the future becuase CDS just leaves her open for all these rumors and little squirts like Richardson to horn in on her territory. She should be inscrutable and let the jerks make up their own little dramas about her, but she refuses to take part in. I can’t see where her specualation about her future direction is giving her any benefit.

  269. There is only one reason why the Obama administration keeps resuscitating the end of life issue and that is to save money. Someday it will be used to deny treatment to the elderly and the very ill to save on insurance money. In the meantime the citizens will be distracted by discussing why it’s good and why it’s bad, and boom, one day it will be law and there will be no recourse.

  270. I get so tired of the Europe bashing on the internet. Europe is different than America. Vive la difference! For one thing it is made up of sozens of small countries and population, not like huge and resource rich America. It tooks years for Europe to come back from World War 2. Look around you. America is a mess right now, thanks to wars. It’s a toss up whether we will survive this economic mess. And still I hear on call in shows people screaming to invade Iran and N. Korea. Do some people learn nothing from history?

  271. Why does it need to be added to medicare? There is so much information available from reputable medical sites about this issue it isn’t funny.

    =====================

    Some people need to have advice from their own doctor about their OWN condition.

  272. Why does it need to be added to medicare? There is so much information available from reputable medical sites about this issue it isn’t funny.

    =====================

    Some people need to have advice from their own doctor about their OWN condition.

  273. turndown,

    Can we just agree to disagree and leave it at that?

    Honestly different points of view are allowed here, yours and mine. And yes it is great to talk to your own doctor. But don’t people already to that?

  274. And yes it is great to talk to your own doctor. But don’t people already to that?

    =====================

    People who can afford to pay the doctor’s bill by themselves already do that. People who need Medicare do NOT do that because they can’t afford it. Unless Medicare pays for it — as is proposed.

  275. “There is only one reason why the Obama administration keeps resuscitating the end of life issue and that is to save money.”
    __________________________

    I heard a shortage of organ donors. It’s a Big Black Market business. Of course not from the elderly, but someone who may have an illness that has not necessarily damaged vital organs. So, if a doctor is told by the death squad to withold treatment to someone that may otherwise be cured…. theres a problem with Obama’s HC flim-flam plan.

    Like inevitable death from Strep Pneumonia.

  276. JanH
    December 28th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    How Richardson-to-replace-Clinton rumors started

    ————-

    Thanks for this post.
    Funny how this one started and Fox was all over it. They want Hillary out of the picture so badly……….

  277. Mrs. Smith
    are you still on antibiotics?
    ___________________

    No, I stopped taking the Levaquin on the 3rd day after reading all the side effects and horror stories.

    The only thing I’m on right now…. is fresh air.

    thanks for asking, feeling good as new..

  278. JanH
    December 28th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    wbboei
    December 28th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    —————-
    Judas set this quagmire up. He wants a second life in the limelight.
    ——-

    Hehehe, I was going to say that maybe Judas had to go all the way to N. Korea to find himself a tree………….. (Bad PUMA…..) 😉

  279. Mrs. Smith
    I count myself fortunate that my body is in such bad shape that they wouldn’t want any of my organs. Bad eyes, bad kidneys, bad heart, it goes on. I only worry that they might want my skin. Oh no!

  280. Shadowfax
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Where’s little confloyd…39 lbs lighter, off saving lives again?
    **********************
    Did she say she lost all that weight by cutting back on her salt?

  281. Big Cat Lover & Shadowfax,
    I just have to answer that…I am at work…I don’t think I can save anyone…Thank God for Dr.s and Nurse’s, we xray people are useless in that regard, LOL! All we can do is tell you “yep, you better hurry or this one is going to die”. LOL!

    I lost that weight by learning portion control, apparently I was eating enough food to stop the famine in Ethiopia! Yes the salt issue is hard because I like salt especially with lime on some sort of a drink…LOL!

  282. Mrs.Smith,
    You have to quit reading those PDR’s, their bad for your health…you’ll be afraid to take any kind of medications….perhaps we should all stick to herbal therapy!

  283. confloyd, you’re part of the saving lives team………and I must have taken over the share for Ethiopia………..now I have to give it back.
    😆

  284. The African American community has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the Clintons, however it appears as though some of that relationship may be fractured and perhaps even broken should former President Clinton come to town and participate overtly in efforts to thwart the legitimate political aspirations of Chicago’s Black Community,” Davis said in this morning’s release
    ————————-
    Until I read this pearl of wisdom, I did not realize that the political aspirations of Chicago’s Black Community trump the political aspirations of all other groups living in that city, and whoever supports any non black candidate will get fractured figuratively if not literally. Is this, plus what we saw in Philadelphia, plus what we see in the Holder Justice department, the end game of the civil rights movement. Is this the kind of thing blacks and whites fought to achieve? If so then it confirms the worst suspicions of white southerners. It appears to me that this is what the Democratic Party now stands for. It is no coincidence that it comes from Chicago, the same town Obama hails from and the place where he will launch his 2012 campaign. It is sad. In fact it is more than just sad. It is a betrayal of this country.

  285. confloyd
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
    I asked how you lost the weight because I have a friend who heavily salts everything. She, like the rest of us, began to gain weight as she reached middle age and I can’t get her to give up the salt. So far, she is very healthy.

  286. wbboei
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
    it’ll be interesting to see how Bill Clinton reacts to this threat. If he ignores it or changes his campaign strategy because of it. Or he may just call the other candidate and work his Bill magic on him.

  287. Big Cat Lover and Shadowfax,
    I am very excited about my weight loss, but I’d hate to tell you how much more I have to lose, LOL! Bunches!
    This weight loss has already tried to kill me once though…the other night I got up in the middle of the night to cover the dog up and when I turned I got my big toe caught in my pajamas leg of the opposite leg. I went down like a bowling pin. It seems that all my pants and pajamas are getting longer, I’m going to have to do some hemming this weekend…LOL!

  288. Take another look at what this Davis character said. He wants to be mayor. He does not want Bill to campaign for Rahm. I get that part. He could have said something like–I am glad that Bill will be visiting our town and I would like to invite him to stop in and see me when he is in town. I am sure if he said that Bill would. And he probably could have gotten a photo op out of it. If he had handled it that way that he would have shown restraint moderation and finesse. He also would have telegraphed confidence, by saying in effect I aint worried. But that is not at all what he did. Instead, he reached for the brass nuckles and issued a threat. The words he chose were intentional. Fractured is a term of art in the underworld. It invokes visions of knee capping. Davis will make a great mayor with 90% of the black community marching in lock step behind him. In a city that is a cesspool of corruption, he is the perfect choice. Also, he is an Obama guy.

  289. wbboei
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
    it’ll be interesting to see how Bill Clinton reacts to this threat. If he ignores it or changes his campaign strategy because of it. Or he may just call the other candidate and work his Bill magic on him.
    —————————–
    Bill has dealt with Neanderthals before–some of whom were Republican. How he handles this one will depend on what his objectives are. I think his objective is to save the party from the reactions of people like me who see everything going down the shitter because of serial incompetence and the repeated use of the race card. I think he trusts Rahm and believes he would be a good mayor. It is also noteworthy that Rahm tried to restrain the Obama cabal from doing health care deform at this point, and to focus instead on jobs. I know that was Hillary’s position as well. Soon enough, Obama and his supporters will understand how right that advice was, when all the shady deals swirling around that legislation are exposed in Congress and on FOX News, while NBC starts showing re re runs of To Catch A Predator.

  290. confloyd goes down like a bowling pin 😆

    Is there any other way? That’s my style too, unless I put out my arms like wings so I can fly on the way down. 😉

  291. Bill has dealt with Neanderthals before–some of whom were Republican. How he handles this one will depend on what his objectives are.
    **********************
    that’s what I meant by it will be interesting to see how he handles this; to get an insight on what his objectives are.

  292. On Parker/Spitzer tonight they were discussing a strategy that the Republicans might use in the upcoming Congress. It was called ‘a vote of disapproval’ or something similar in response to Obama’s bypassing legislative votes. They need 30 votes (so will need some dem votes) to pass these, then Obama will have to veto them. They are hoping that will catch the media attention and make the Obama tactic public. They were speculating that Bill (or is it Ben?) Nelson or Claire McCaskill will be the dem votes they need to pass these resolutions.

  293. Blacks are a little over 1/3 of the Chicago population. Yet Davis and his ilk demand that the majority fall in line behind them. That is what we are dealing with in Chicago and in the Party of Obama.
    ———————————————————————

    The racial makeup of the city was 42.0% white, 36.8% black, 4.4% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 0.4% Native American, 13.6% from other races, and 2.9% from two or more races. 26.0% of the population were Hispanic of any race. 21.7% of the population was foreign born; of this, 56.3% came from Latin America, 23.1% from Europe, 18.0% from Asia and 2.6% from other parts of the world.[4] The 2007 community survey for the U.S. Census showed little variation.[5] Chicago has the fifth highest foreign-born population in the country.

  294. Is Davis acting on orders from obama’s thugs? I hope Bill Clinton comes out with a fiery response to this blackmail.

  295. Mrs. Smith
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I never had any problem with Levaquin. It’s one of the big boys and if other antibiotics fail, I don’t hesitate. Beats pneumonia every time.

    They all have side effects, just look at aspirin.

  296. BigCatLover and Shadowfax,
    I don’t trust any of them in D.C., they are all in this together and merely playing parts in grande theatre.
    The foxes are guarding the hen house so to speak. Crooks all of them for the exception of the Clinton’s, the only true Americans that get up everyday and fight for us lowly people, LOL!

    I’ll be glad when this mistake 08′ is over, hopefully we will all still be together and discussing the theives!

  297. BigCatLover
    December 28th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    I get so tired of the Europe bashing on the internet
    **********

    Maybe if you read the history of the on going detritus from an above poster that disses America and Americans while promoting the superiority of Europe ( and himself ), you would understand. I for one will not stand by and not stand up for America.

    I have nothing personally against Europeans.

  298. I wonder if this is on the new Nazi school menu? Ah alas, do what I say, not as I do you foolish peons!
    **************

    Wish you were here! Obama enjoys Hawaiian vacation where the only ice is his frozen dessert
    By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
    Last updated at 1:01 PM on 28th December 2010

    President Obama is soaking up the warmth of Hawaii as he continues his Christmas holiday – and even indulged in his own version of snow while millions of Americans dig out from a blizzard.
    He took daughters Sasha and Malia and some friends out for snow cones on Monday at local haunt Island Snow, the closest he’ll get to frost until he returns to wintery Washington next week.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1342103/Wish-Obama-enjoys-Hawaiian-vacation-ice-frozen-dessert.html#ixzz19T7qcmga

  299. lorac
    December 28th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    —————–

    Excellent! The only thing that would make it better is if you kicked meme to the curb at the same time. 🙂

  300. And because it is a direct hit at Hillary, who has yet to forgive this slime, the media and Judas are relishing every moment
    ———————
    Jan I see it differently. Richardson, big media and probably Rice tried to pull a fast one and got snagged. If big media were honest we would know who crafted this little bay of pigs charade. As far as forgiveness is concerned it begins when the offending party acknowledges his transgression and asks to be forgiven. That fat slow thinking pinata Richardson never apologized nor asked for forgiveness. He considers himself on a par with Bill Clinton–as in maybe we will patch it up and maybe we won’t. Has there ever been a man with so much hubris and so little ability. Bush may have lacked ability but he did have his humble moments. Not so Richardson. Just what is it that this guy brings to the party. I guess if slow and stupid are your thing then he is feted. Otherwise the only thing he has going for him is the fact that he is Mexican and they need the Mexican vote. But that it no reason to place our foreign policy in the hands of an ignoramus.

  301. is this implying that Obama will not help Rahm win mayor of Chicago. Is this based on a story that I missed or just a theory? Clinton should protect the Clintons from Rahm and any Other Obama supporter, but Bill doesn’t listen to me unfortunately.
    ————————–
    It is just an opinion. It is based on some of the stuff which appeared in Ulsterman and elsewhere, which suggests that he was forced out. That gives him motive to be anti Obama. The people he is running against are corrupt anti white blacks allied with Obama. But as I say it is just a theory.

  302. Thx, gonzo and Jan! 🙂

    I can’t wait to hear the official announcement that Hillary is resigning!! That doesn’t mean she WILL run in 2012, but IF she HOPES to, I think this is right about the time she would need to be parting ways with Narcissus…

  303. Well I just got home from work and I hope Hillary quits soon, I am sick of Obama!

    I won’t be on the blog much til tommorrow night….getting the grey out of the hair and a little cut off…I just can’t part with my long hair, LOL! I won’t mind getting rid of the grey though.

    I will be watching, waiting and anticipating any news of our girl!

  304. As much as I want Hillary to tell Barry he can take that job and shove it, I will feel less safe with her out of the State Dept. Then again, I would gladly feel less safe if she was resting up to kick Barry out of the Oval.

  305. As much as I want Hillary to tell Barry he can take that job and shove it, I will feel less safe with her out of the State Dept. Then again, I would gladly feel less safe if she was resting up to kick Barry out of the Oval
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    Twain said no man is safe when Congress is in session. He never met Obama. No American man, woman, child or dog or ally is safe when Obama is president. But foreign terrorists, enemies of the United States, domestic radicals and George Soros (forgive the redundancy) are quite safe thank you. That said, the country can probably survive one term of Obama, even though we are promised that he will thrill and inspire everyone in 2012 just like he did in 2008. If by everyone the mean no one except big media then they are probably right. But to complete the thought the country can survive Obama. What it cannot survive is the corrupt media we have in this country today.

  306. admin: this story is getting ready to blow up BIG- I’m hoping you write about it in your next topic for discussion.
    ___________________________

    Rep Davis to Clinton: Stay out of Chicago politics

    CHICAGO (AP) — Congressman Danny Davis has a message for former President Bill Clinton: Don’t take sides in the Chicago mayor’s race – or else.

    Davis, a longtime friend of Clinton, warned the ex-president on Tuesday that he could jeopardize his “long and fruitful relationship” with the black community if he campaigns for former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel instead of one of the two leading black candidates running – Davis or former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun.

    The warning highlights the stakes in what is gearing up to be a contentious race for mayor in the nation’s third-largest city. About a dozen people have made it on to the ballot to replace retiring Mayor Richard M. Daley, who is bowing out after more than 20 years in office, giving candidates their first real shot at Chicago’s top job for the first time in two decades.

    In a news release, Davis, a Democrat from Chicago’s West Side, said Clinton’s relationship with the black community may be “fractured and perhaps even broken” if he comes to town to stump for Emanuel, who moved back to Chicago this fall to run for mayor and is leading in the polls.

    Davis later told The Associated Press that he intended the news release to be a personal appeal to Clinton, friend to friend.

    “You just wouldn’t want your friends to be campaigning against you,” Davis said with a laugh. “I’ve enjoyed a great friendship and relationship and have a tremendous amount of affinity for both the Clintons … and I’d like to keep it that way.”

    “I want him to be neutral,” Davis said of the former president.

    Emanuel’s campaign recently announced that Clinton was going to head a campaign event in January, but no date or time has been announced. Campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt declined to comment on Davis’ statement, and messages left with Clinton’s foundation weren’t immediately returned on Tuesday.

    Blacks make up 35 percent of Chicago’s population, a key voting bloc that has the potential to doom or elevate a candidate. A recent Chicago Tribune/WGN poll showed Davis leading Emanuel among black voters, but just barely. Davis was backed by 21 percent of black voters, Emanuel was backed by 19 percent, but 30 percent were undecided. The poll showed Emanuel leading with 30 percent among all voters surveyed.

    Emanuel held various positions in Clinton’s administration, including senior policy adviser, director of special projects and political director. Davis also has known Clinton for years, and political consultant Delmarie Cobb said Davis was among the first black leaders to support Clinton’s presidential campaign before he had widespread name recognition.

    “I can see where Danny Davis would be very upset,” Cobb said.

    Braun, the race’s other leading black candidate, joined the U.S. Senate the same year Clinton became president, and he was always supportive of her, Cobb said. Clinton appointed Braun as ambassador to New Zealand after she lost her Senate re-election bid.

    Messages left for Braun’s campaign weren’t immediately returned.

    Clinton – who Nobel Prize winner Toni Morrison once dubbed the country’s first black president – still enjoys a great deal of support among black voters, and Davis said part of his concern is about Clinton’s impact on the mayor’s race.

    “I think he certainly has some sway and power,” Davis said. “He’s still a tremendous draw.”

    But Cobb wasn’t convinced that Clinton’s popularity would translate into votes. She and other black leaders want Clinton to stay on the sidelines because “a president shouldn’t inject himself in a local mayoral race. He’s an international figure.”

    “This is not something he should be a part of, especially when he has no direct ties to Chicago,” Cobb said. “He is bigger than this.”

    While Davis said his message to Clinton was meant to be a friendly appeal, the tone of his statement was more direct, suggesting that the former president would lose black support if he campaigned for Emanuel.

    “The African-American community has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the Clintons, however it appears as though some of that relationship maybe fractured and perhaps even broken should former President Clinton come to town and participate overtly in efforts to thwart the legitimate political aspirations of Chicago’s Black community,” the statement said.

    Cobb echoed that sentiment, saying that if Clinton visits Chicago for Emanuel, “it would appear that the president was supporting a white man over Hispanic and African-American and women candidates, and I’m sure that’s not . . . the perception the president wants to project.”

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHICAGO_MAYOR_CLINTON?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

  307. This Davis character has to be dumber than a box of rocks. He said:

    “This is not something [he] President Clinton should be a part of, especially when he has no direct ties to Chicago,” Cobb said. “He is bigger than this.”
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    pop quiz, Mr Davis: Where was Hillary Rodham Clinton born?
    ___________________

    “While Davis said his message to Clinton was meant to be a friendly appeal, the tone of his statement was more direct, suggesting that the former president would lose black support if he campaigned for Emanuel.”
    ________________________

    Just who is this joker thinking he is that he can threaten an ex-President of the United States of America? Where is he coming from? Why didn’t he ask BC first to campaign for him?
    ________________________

    “I want him to be neutral,” Davis said of the former president”..
    __________________________

    Want? He wants? heh- I have the feeling Davis is going to regret his insulting words after the election. This fellow is going to need to sign up for a course on manners, being polite and respectful of the man he is addressing and maybe even a course on diplomacy couldn’t hurt. After all, what has he got to LOSE?
    __________________________

    “You just wouldn’t want your friends to be campaigning against you,” Davis said with a laugh. “I’ve enjoyed a great friendship and relationship and have a tremendous amount of affinity for both the Clintons … and I’d like to keep it that way.”
    __________________________________

    Is this moron the second coming of Marion Barry? Did he support Hillary or Obama? (sorry, that was a rhetorical question.)
    __________________________

    “All we’re saying is give us a break,” Davis told me. “Let this thing play out and everything is going to be cool. Mr. President, don’t come. Don’t help Rahm.”
    ________________________________

    Give us a break? Where was your brain when you were asked to vote for the best candidate for president that could turn the country around before we reach the point of no return? Mr… you are not qualified to run for any office. You best stay home and pick up a book once in a while and learn something before you start preaching to a constituency that deserves better, someone who can successfully lead them to… heh-
    ‘Peace and Prosperity’..
    ________________________________________

    “The African American community has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the Clintons, however it appears as though some of that relationship may be fractured and perhaps even broken should former President Clinton come to town and participate overtly in efforts to thwart the legitimate political aspirations of Chicago’s Black Community,” Davis said in this morning’s release.
    _______________________________

    Emanuel is a former presidential employee. He has worked for 2 presidents. Is Davis saying he wouldn’t support his own president who chose Emanuel for a job that requires brains and skillful know how around Congress for getting things done. Is Davis saying he prefers depriving the people of Chicago of a candidate that can comes to the city of Chicago with a resume as long as your arm and just because he says so– inserting himself into the Mayor’s seat is the best thing for Chicago residents?

    When comparing Emanuel’s qualifications to Davis’ brain trust. Davis comes up a little short. With his apparently somewhat deficient and “light” resume Davis doesn’t even know a past first lady, and former president’s wife was BORN in Chicago? Does Davis know how much he doesn’t know?

    The question to Chicago resident is this: Who is the more qualified candidate for the Mayor of Chicago? Then ask yourself, based on the few incidentals mentioned here:

    How can Davis be the better choice for Mayor of Chicago? Or are Chicagons prepared to make another mistake and live again with buyer’s remorse after voting Davis into office? You decide…

  308. I didn’t want to put this statement in my last post because it reeks of desperation… “THE RACE CARD”!
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    “Cobb echoed that sentiment, saying that if Clinton visits Chicago for Emanuel, “it would appear that the president was supporting a white man over Hispanic and African-American and women candidates, and I’m sure that’s not . . . the perception the president wants to project.”
    ___________________

    This statement should be framed and enshrined in the Hall of Shame. The famous Race Card rant, stamping it’s feet serving as a distraction to voters who should be thinking about a candidates credentials and in the end, can they do us some good.

    Isn’t the whole idea of learning from your mistakes part of the learning curve? Or will the remnants of kool-aid be part of the American daily diet in prepetuity? Scary thought-

  309. wbboei, December 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm:
    […] He could have said something like–I am glad that Bill will be visiting our town and I would like to invite him to stop in and see me when he is in town. I am sure if he said that Bill would. And he probably could have gotten a photo op out of it. If he had handled it that way that he would have shown restraint moderation and finesse. He also would have telegraphed confidence, by saying in effect I aint worried. But that is not at all what he did. Instead, he reached for the brass nuckles and issued a threat. […]

    Just repeating that sane insight to thank you. I’d venture to guess we could search all over the interwebs and find very few comments as sane as that on this matter.

  310. gonzotx
    December 28th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    Mrs. Smith
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I never had any problem with Levaquin. It’s one of the big boys and if other antibiotics fail, I don’t hesitate. Beats pneumonia every time.

    They all have side effects, just look at aspirin.
    _______________________

    That was my first thought, gonzo. I was already exhibiting the side effects of the drug by the 3rd day… blurred vision, couldn’t add and subtract numbers correctly to pay the monthly bills. Believe me, I was scared skinny, and the main reason I decided to quit taking the Levaquin. I felt, worse case scenario if I’m not feeling better in a few days, I’ll go back and ask for another prescription for a less powerful antibiotic.

    Until the serious hospital stay last year, I’ve never taken anything stronger than penicillin or amoxicillin (sp?)….

    So far so good…

  311. confloyd
    December 28th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
    Mrs.Smith
    ___________________

    My cell phone is caput. My old flip phone has been pressed into service for the time being. I’m thinking of getting a Droid next week.I read where Apple’s I-Phone is scheduled to be accessed and monitored by Big Brother (at their leisure). and well, hmmm…

  312. ohanson-

    “Just repeating that sane insight to thank you. I’d venture to guess we could search all over the interwebs and find very few comments as sane as that on this matter.”
    ____________________

    Exactly, just imagine how insane Davis is… And he began as a school teacher, who hasn’t done his own homework in years! 😳

  313. I bleed from the Rectum takin full strength aspirin, and it is written into all of my medical records. Doctors keep trying to fool me, and believe me, I have learned all of the code words for aspirin. It is tough having a reaction to aspirin, as it is one of the medical communities super drugs.

    I think we have all forgotten about Richardson’s younger life. His Mother went to LA to have him from Mexico, and he was raised in Mexico. That is likely to teach you some things you don’t learn in the US. It was only during his later schooling that he came back to the US. Also, he needs to be vetted like John Edwards should have been vetted. I think it is amazing that we scrutinize one person and we completely ignore the others in this same venue.

  314. Shadowfax
    December 29th, 2010 at 3:48 am

    As much as I want Hillary to tell Barry he can take that job and shove it, I will feel less safe with her out of the State Dept. Then again, I would gladly feel less safe if she was resting up to kick Barry out of the Oval.
    _____________________________

    The one consolation to that mega conundrum is Hillary is a great problem solver. A must have quality for a leader to be successfull and productive… She will surprize us. I’m sure..

  315. NewMexicoFan
    December 29th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Also, [he] Richardson needs to be vetted like John Edwards should have been vetted. I think it is amazing that we scrutinize one person and we completely ignore the others in this same venue.
    ______________________

    You know, NMF that is a great point. I’ve read most of the lawsuits filed to date, and if I remember correctly the only one that brought that point to bear in his suit was Phil Berg. However, I think it was in response to the court’s decision on the lawsuit.. The court stated: “Berg had no standing in the lawsuit because he wasn’t an injured party.” Of course he rebutted, stating as a voter he was or would be… but the court declined going any further on the issue, stating “the election hadn’t happened yet.”

    Berg came back once again, stating, “Hillary Clinton was the injured party” with the court responding something to the effect, “Let Hillary Clinton file a complaint.” But the court’s decision was made before Denver. It wasn’t until the convention the nomination was made offical but by then we were out of time and out of luck.

  316. basil9
    December 28th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    jeswezey,

    You have my deepest sympathy. It seems you’ve fallen into the Big Pink black hole. It happens every so often, as pm317 pointed out, especially when admin is away for too long. Then it seems the paper planes and bullies come out in full force.

    It’s one reason I don’t blog here much, anymore.

    ——

    Yup

  317. gonzotx
    December 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    What is it that Hillary always says?

    “If you can’t take the HEAT.. 🙄

    .. you know the rest.

  318. NewMexicoFan
    December 29th, 2010 at 8:41 am
    I bleed from the Rectum takin full strength aspirin, and it is written into all of my medical records. Doctors keep trying to fool me, and believe me, I have learned all of the code words for aspirin. It is tough having a reaction to aspirin, as it is one of the medical communities super drugs.
    ***********************
    I too have side effects to many many drugs, even ones that most people tolerate just fine. And I also had to learn how to head off a doctor that pompously believes that I am a drama queen and he/she will sneak a drug into my system without my being the wiser. This is part arrogance by the doctor and partly because they don’t have another treatment in their repetoire. You just have to stay one step ahead of them and be aware of what they are actually prescribing.

  319. Nowadays you have to watch out at the Dr.’s office…with all these new super drugs, its hard to see what in them all…my daughter is highly allergic to aspirin and all its derivites. They are constantly trying to give her ibuphophen….she went to the ER for a pulled shoulder and they gave her a shot of Toridol which is a Nsaid….within seconds she started swelling in her face, neck and hands. They almost killed her…she was close to anaphyllaxis. I was so pist off I couldn’t see straight when she called me and told me she was feeling funny.

    You just have to know your own body these days and ask everyone who is putting something in your system what the heck is in it.

  320. gonzotx
    December 29th, 2010 at 10:27 am
    ——————–
    I think basil9 and carol were referring to something else. I don’t think anybody here minds a good argument but sometimes the discourse has devolved into personal insults. It is fascinating to me to watch the group dynamics here. It has become increasingly clique-like with one person dominating doling out sugar coated pats on the back for a few and below the belt low class insults to others and sidekicks cheerleading her. It is not that we can’t take the heat, but we just don’t want to be in the same filthy kitchen (speaking for me only).

    Well, I am probably wrong — it could just be that they are all so excited about that widget that rolls its eyes around.

  321. confloyd
    At least now in the hospital you can refuse to take the medications they offer unlike in the past when they used to harass you until you took the medications. A nurse told me that the last time I was in the hospital and I wish I had listened because they almost killed me with a shot of insulin as I was being discharged. I was already on oral medication for diabetes, but since I was ready to go home, I decided not to fight with the young nurse that insisted I needed a shot of insulin. Two hours later I was home alone with a blood sugar level so low, I could hardly function. Luckily I was able to get to the kitchen and grab a sweet food to raise my blood sugar, but it took over an hour to be able to function again.

  322. BigCatLover,
    I tell you its scary nowadays…I just hate for my daughter to go to the Dr.s, they are always giving her something stupid.

    If you are a diabetic and take Glucophage or its generic, make sure if you have a cat scan with contrast you don’t take you diabetic meds for at least 24 hrs after getting the contrast…your kidneys can shut down. You would be surprised how many people don’t know this and you’d be surprised at how many hospitals don’t warn their patients when getting contrast for a CT scan! The contrast is very hard on your kidneys and you need to make sure your kidneys can handle it and make sure you hydrate yourself afterwards!

  323. confloyd
    Thanks for the tip. I’m already really leery of dyes for tests because of the kidneys. I verified that my last cat scan was without dye before I took it.

  324. To follow up on the article I posted on this topic earlier yesterday, here is what the Washington Post has to say…

    12/29/2010

    Playing (race) cards with Bill Clinton in Chicago

    By Jonathan Capehart

    Some members of Chicago’s black political class are a wee bit ticked that former president Bill Clinton is getting involved in the impending mayor’s race by doing a campaign event next month for former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. I get it. If you don’t have the Big Dog in your corner, you don’t want anyone else to have him, either. But the public pique of two black mayoral aspirants — Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) and former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D) — and their race appeal is petty, annoying and will come back to bite them.

    Davis acknowledged Clinton’s right to campaign for whomever he wants, but added this obnoxious warning:

    The African-American community has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the Clintons, however, it appears as though some of that relationship may be fractured and perhaps even broken should former president Clinton come to town and participate overtly in efforts to thwart the legitimate political aspirations of Chicago’s Black community.

    Braun concurred by picking at the scab that is the 2008 Democratic primary in South Carolina.

    He’s made these gaffes affecting, touching on his relationship with the African-American community….I think he’d be more sensitive than to weigh in on a race like this, from afar, given the support that community has given him in the past.

    Good grief, people. Get over it.

    Yes, politics is about loyalty. But there are gradations of political loyalty. Braun and Emanuel worked for Clinton. While she was the U.S. ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa (1999 – 2001), Emanuel worked directly with the president as his political director. And I’m surprised that Braun and Davis would attack someone as powerful in the Democratic Party as Clinton. Surely, they know memories are long and revenge is served cold in politics.

    But the photo below of President Obama and Clinton illustrates the ultimate reason why Braun and Davis should put a sock in it with the racial appeal.

    As long as they’re tight Obama and Clinton), Clinton will be just fine with the African American electorate.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/12/playing_race_cards_in_chicago.html

  325. Gonzo-

    I’m so glad the title of this thread is:

    How Not To Fight And ‘Win’

    I think there’s something to that title.

    wbboei, if I recall correctly, was once called a “blog hog” by the same gentle people or one of them(I don’t think they are PUMAS) complaining.

    I recall the other day someone interrupted with “some of you people are older than my mother.” Is that a statement meant for people over 30?

    I don’t know about you, but I’m not qualified to make a psychiatric diagnosis and the reason why I didn’t want to say some people are just looking for attention. Huzzah!

  326. You nailed it pm317. 10;57

    “It is fascinating to me to watch the group dynamics here. It has become increasingly clique-like with one person dominating doling out sugar coated pats on the back for a few and below the belt low class insults to others and sidekicks cheerleading her.”

    I never liked high school the first time around.

    I hope admin is ok and will resurface soon. I so miss those relevant, well-thought-out, insightful posts.

  327. The truth which Obama lovers will never understand is given to us by a German writer who grew morose over the Kaisers loss of world war I and from that indulged in black cigars, annulled his engagement and devoted the balance of this life writing a book which looks at history through the looking glass darkly. A decision which he regretted at the end of his life because it gave him no peace. The time was the 1920, the book was The Decline of the West, and the writer was Oswald Spengler. Whether or not he was a Prussian, I do not know. But he sure looked the part. This gem concerns the media of his day–not ours. It responds to something I have been kicking around in my head. Am I being fair to the press? Were the things we saw in 2008–the puss pocket of evil merely an aberration, or were they what it has become? Well here is some insight on that question from a man who never lived to see the 24-7 cable phenomenon which has transformed whatever problem they had before into a crisis of democracy and a variant of Goebbels, whom he may have met somewhere along the line. I have had arguments with a friend whose family owned an important newspaper and I think I have won, not because I wanted to. By raising the point I was hoping to be proven wrong, but the press itself which is now state run media proved otherwise.
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    “The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. But, as in every army, the soldier obeys blindly, and the war aims and operating plans change without his knowledge. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play. There is no more appalling caricature of freedom of thought. Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.”

  328. The Christmas season has pulled me into venues where I would never otherwise go. Across the lake, to the wealthy part of town and Christmas Parties where I had the priviledge of meeting well heeled people who wear their political philosophy on their sleeve as a fashion statement and are ignorant as swans. It is a fools errand to enter into any kind of deep conversation with these people–they regard anyone who challenges their illusions as de classe, or a closet racist, so rather than be the proverbial turd in the punch bowl I confine my comments to simple statements like: well, it sure didn’t take the messiah long to become Bush III did it? That is usually enough to pop their cork. If they take the bait, I have a long list of things which support that premise. Most of the time, they ask for another drink or walk away. Not much going on behind those ears, except an obsession for money, status and to preen in front of a mirror.

  329. and fuck you Carol Mosley Braun, you backstabbing piece of crap.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/12/carol_moseley_braun_also_warns.html

    Chicago Mayoral hopeful former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D-Ill.) added her voice to a warning issued by mayoral rival Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.): Don’t come to Chicago to campaign for Rahm Emanuel or risk his relationship with African Americans.

    On Tuesday, Davis got this ball rolling when he issued a statement telling Clinton to stay away from the mayoral election. Emanuel is the front-runner and Davis and Braun–both African American–need a big black vote if they have any chance of coming in second. The Feb. 22 contest is non-partisan and if no one gets 50 percent, a run-off between the top two finishers will be held April 5. Davis told me in an interview he also wanted President Obama–who has been helpful to Emanuel’s campaign–to stay out of the mayoral contest. My column on this is here.

    Here’s what is new: Though Clinton appointed Braun as ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa after she lost her Senate re-election bid, a statement from her campaign issued Wednesday morning was strongly worded:

    Said Braun,”Bill Clinton is an outsider parachuting in to support another outsider. Rahm’s residency status continues to be challenged in court. It’s not yet clear that he will be on the ballot. At the same time former president Clinton risks his legacy and the great respect that he has enjoyed among African Americans by coming to Chicago to endorse Rahm Emanuel who is running for mayor against two black candidates.

    “Clinton should remember New Hampshire where he called Barack Obama’s opposition to the war in Iraq ‘a fairy tale.’ He was wrong.

    “Clinton should remember South Carolina where he played the race card painting Obama as “the black candidate”. Again he was wrong. Bill Clinton will be wrong again if he gets involved in the Chicago mayoral contest. He should stay home and avoid
    the cold.”

    …………………..Bill Clinton please tell her where to go F herself.

  330. JanH
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
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    They are promoting an alternate reality. It has nothing to do with the real world. For people on the left perhaps he is that kind of icon. Certainly that is better than Bill Mahr or Rachel Maddow, because from time to time he does lapse into the truth and is willing to make some of the same points we would. But to extrapolate from that and suggest that he is Edward R Murrow, who came from my state, is more evidence that they are smoking something at that newspaper. I would say it is some evidence that they are weening themselves off Obama, but I know better. These are the people who failed to vet Obama, tried to drive Hillary out of the race, and sent 17 investigative reporters to Alaska to find dirt on Sarah and collaborate with the Obama campaign. And now of course they are an integral part of state run media. You will see more hyperbole like this as they struggle to defend an indefensible position–something no sane person does.

  331. The question someone should ask Carol M Brown is why the hell does she think the Mayor of Chicago should go to an African American as if by right.

    This is getting ridiculous.

    PRESIDENT CLINTON can support who he likes, he’s done more for your people than any other President yet you continually throw it back in his face, so screw you all, if thats your attitude, you don’t deserve his presence.

  332. Hi Moon. I am glad you are back. This brouhaha over whether Bill goes to Chicago to support Rahm is serious business. It is a clear indication of what any non black will face if he tries to take back the Democratic Party from the radical forces who now control it. It is no coincidence that Chicago will be the site of his campaign. They see it as their party, their right, their insatiable grievance against this country–and against people who were not even born and whose ancestors were not in the country. Is this the end game of the civil rights revolution–this? Everything is cast in racial terms. Protests will be organized. Where is the fucking media on this one? They want to be gatekeepers. Well here is their chance. Are they prepared to ask white and black Democratic leaders besides this idiot Carol Mosely Brown–people like Reid, Pelosi, Whitehouse, Durbin, and their ilk whether this is right? Whether this is what the party now stands for? If these black supremists prevail the future of this party is limited. Compare this dark view of America to the hopeful one of Marco Rubio and you will know why in time people of good judgment will write off this party. Sure as the earth turns.

  333. moononpluto
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
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    The sense of entitlement is mindboggling. Obviously they fear that BC will make a difference for the better for Rahm but the right way to approach it is what wbboei suggested up thread. Why do they lack that kind of confidence? Another nail in the coffin for race relations in this country.

  334. wbboei
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
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    Well, the Dims were crooks enough to use Obama’s ‘blackness’ to their own nefarious purposes. Now can we blame the minority black politicians if they felt used by the party and want to take it hostage? Let the party wiggle itself out of the clutches of this Frankenstein monster it created.

  335. Fuck them all let them become the Racist Black Party where white people must stand aside for the black candidate.

    I’m sick and tired of it all.

    Its obvious now, they are never going to let Hillary have her shot and Hillary knows it.

    They should say, “forget it, why should we help any of you”. Let Illinois go to hell, they don’t deserve the Clintons.

  336. The question someone should ask Carol M Brown is why the hell does she think the Mayor of Chicago should go to an African American as if by right.

    This is getting ridiculous.

    PRESIDENT CLINTON can support who he likes, he’s done more for your people than any other President yet you continually throw it back in his face, so screw you all, if thats your attitude, you don’t deserve his presence.

    ————————
    I hope he does not rescind his plans. The reference to South Carolina tells why. The black supremists would treat this as a victory. And they would paint his legacy in those terms. This could be stopped in the twinkling of an eye by Obama. His silence speaks volumes as to who is behind it. He is a racial provocateur.

  337. wbboei, He won’t back out. He keeps his commitments, and he made one to Rahm. It doesn’t matter what Rahm’s opponents say, no matter how threatening or insulting.

  338. This could be stopped in the twinkling of an eye by Obama. His silence speaks volumes as to who is behind it. He is a racial provocateur.
    —————-
    That is it. It is his town and he could just as easily say cut it out but he won’t do it.

  339. What do you think the chances are that the Chicago Black Community have not spoken to Jarrett about what is going on. The chances they have not spoken to her about this are absolute zero. She is in this thing right up to her eyeballs. Guaranteed. So where is that cub reporter who has not gotten his instructions on the questions to ask and believes there is such a thing as honest journalism. If I were that innocent, idealistic, and wonderfully naive reporter, I might look for an opportunity to pop that question to Jarrett–does Bill Clinton have the right to campaign for a white candidate in Chicago, since he has campaigned for Black candidates in many other venues, and done work in Haiti, and passed legislation favorable to blacks. You would see what a crawfish looks like if that were to happen.

  340. Looks like the rumour Rahm left Obama on bad terms is true, they really do not want him as Mayor, hence Bill supporting him. This is going to egt ugly but i think Bill Clinton is up for a fight.

    Wanna know why, if Rahm did leave on bad terms, Rahm will be in a hell of a position in Chicago to release some dirt on Obama…Rahm as Chi town Mayor, maybe we might get some shit on Obama yet that’ll stick.

    Maybe thats what the WH is scared of.

  341. moon,

    I read something a week ago that Rahm is already polling the highest with the people against the other mayoral candidates.

    Should get very interesting.

  342. jbstonesfan,

    I’ve been following the Kissinger story and read his half-baked comments.

    I too do not think he has apologized at all. And personally, I doubt that many Jews will ever forget his original comments, disgusting as they were then and continue to resonate today.

  343. He won’t back out. He keeps his commitments, and he made one to Rahm. It doesn’t matter what Rahm’s opponents say, no matter how threatening or insulting.
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    I think you are right Paula. He will not back down or out.

    Davis, Brown and their fellow black supremacists have played their hand foolishly. And they have doubled down on it. What do they do now? Well, they could stage protests, boycotts or maybe even a riot. They could fill the air waves with race hate, and the newspapers. They have plenty of options, but if they go down that path there could be consequences.

    First, the optics would not be so good. Second, this could lead to a sober assessment of all the good things Bill has done for the black community both in the United States and now in Haiti. That pushback would undermine their claim that Bill is a racist. And third, it would tend to defeat their objective which is to get the electorate at large to vote for the thug they are promoting. Those are risks they need to consider before they just decide to burn Rome.

    The power of a threat is greatest before it is executed. At that point it creates risk and uncertainty for the other party. Before Mosely Brown opened her mouth about South Carolina, they had one round left in the barrel. Now they have none. The only threat they really had was verbal. And now they must confront the problems.

    The first problem they have is not all blacks will support this provocative act, and schisms will develop in their heretofore monolithic base of support. Second, execution never goes smoothly–there is always friction. Third, execution tends to expose the weaknesses in the authors position which were previously overlooked. Fourth, time works against the threatener as resistance builds. Fifth, execution produces unintended consequences, one of which is the loss of control of the discussion and dialogue. Sixth, public opinion looks for a good guy and a villain in any fight. If they go an inch further down this road, the black supremacists have cast themselves as the villains.

  344. The next step will be for the Black Panthers to get involved with Chicago’s mayoral race…if they haven’t already.

    And obama will claim he is totally innocent in what is taking place.

  345. Lets look at reverse psychology here. If obama was coming to Chicago to “butt in” and endorse an AA mayoral candidate, that would be A-OK.

    If someone from Rahm’s camp went of the attack it would be using the race card and “how dare he butt in?”

    But it’s okay for the AA’s to attack Bill Clinton for “butting in” etc..etc…

    This is disgusting.

  346. Sure does look like the blacks that are in power are trying to bully the Clinton’s! Ulstermann’s article is interesting!

  347. The reality JanH is that most liberal Jews put their liberalism ahead of Israel. Some of the loudest anti-Israeli critics(idiots) are self-loathing Jews. Thank g-d for people like Sarah Palin and other conservatives who support Israel.

  348. wbb
    But to complete the thought the country can survive Obama. What it cannot survive is the corrupt media we have in this country today.

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    You’re right wbb, the country can survive ONE term of Berry, just the Democratic Party can’t survive as the party we all loved with Barry, Nasty or Reid with any kind of power. The MSM have betrayed American’s more than all three of them, without PUMA blogs most of us would think we somehow ended up in Jim Jones camp.

  349. wbboei

    The Christmas season has pulled me into venues where I would never otherwise go.
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    Yes wbb, those are the type of folks I work for, and tried to warn before the convention. They have treated me as a ‘political’ outcast since then, but I notice now that some of them will at least admit they are disappointed in Barry, they love to add, they had such high hopes for him. Most are not ready to admit they made a HUGE mistake yet………….but some of my obot friends are STARTING to admit it.

    Many hang their heads and claim, I would vote for Hillary…she is doing a great job.

    I guess most obots are not going to Kool-aid rehab.

  350. moononpluto
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Looks like the rumour Rahm left Obama on bad terms is true, they really do not want him as Mayor, hence Bill supporting him. This is going to egt ugly but i think Bill Clinton is up for a fight.

    Wanna know why, if Rahm did leave on bad terms, Rahm will be in a hell of a position in Chicago to release some dirt on Obama…Rahm as Chi town Mayor, maybe we might get some shit on Obama yet that’ll stick.

    Maybe thats what the WH is scared of.
    ————

    Maybe that’s what the ‘Insider’ was alluding to when he said it all leads back to Chicago?

    Somehow, the Big Dawg will not back down and will come out, as he always does, as the intelligent man of reason.

    Threats by a few ‘friends’ will have the power to turn the blacks away from the Clinton’s?

    Really……………….?

    Stupid race baiting assholes!!

  351. This racist behavior by Davis and Braun is typical of what Obama did to Hillary and Bill. I feel so badly for saying this but how in world could Hillary or Bill ever trust the black community again after the 2008 primary, ever. Capehart implying that blacks would continue to support the Clintons so long as they remained on friendly terms with Obama. What kind of friend is that? I wouldn’t want friends like that! Now, I’m not talking about good people like Stephanie Tubbs Jones who was loyal to her death. I wonder had she lived, would blacks have destroyed her as well? The worst part was that the majority of blacks knew that the Clintons were not racist but they wanted an excuse to vote for Obama, to have a black President. So I say just ignore them. They threw you both under the boss once and they’ll do it again if it suits them. The next time a black civil rights issue emerges and they need the clout of Clinton to garner support from the general public, I mean anyone who isn’t black, just tell them that Obama is President, its his job! Let him carry their banner! After all, they chose him because they believe he was the most qualified, right!

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