Racists Surround White House And Attack Mess-iah Obama – Obama Abdicates – President Bill Clinton Back In The White House

Remember when Bill Clinton was a racist? Remember when Obama said he would “turn the page” on all those pesky problems from the 90s? Remember when “Clinton” was someone to get rid of? Well, guess what?

Bll Clinton is carrying forty-four bricks in his briefcase. Yesterday he delivered them to drowning Barack Obama. So desperate is Barack Obama that he invited Bill and the briefcase to the White House. It was an uproariously funny and sad sight.

After the private meeting both the Boob and President Bill Clinton appeared before the White House press. Barack Obama abdicated the podium to President Bill Clinton because Obama had another party to attend. Bill Clinton waved him off with a “GO!” and took over the TelePrompTerless podium.

It’s hard to believe that such boobery can exist. But it does. As we say: “Elect a Boob, Expect Boobery“. Why would Obama invite Bill Clinton and why would Bill Clinton accept such an invitation from a boob? Bill Clinton has good reasons to attend such a meeting. But Obama? Perhaps Obama realizes that Bill is the positive resource we have always thought he is. But to abdicate the podium in order to go to yet another party???? Isn’t that the core Obama problem – a celebrity wannabe who wants to be adored and party in between vacations – and he takes off for a party after a week of horror and in the middle of a fight?

Can such boobery possibly exist? Are we imagining all this? [For a truly comic run down of the boobery, the New York Times account is a must read – Obama could not get past a closed door and was wandering the halls looking for a key – we are not making this up.] Looking at his watch, like Bush I, then running off! After this week the boobery is not imagined. It’s as if Big Pink vomited all over the front pages of every newspaper and news broadcast in the nation.

After years of writing about Barack Obama no one can deny how right we have been about this corrupt boob. We knew the DREAM Act was just an act. We knew the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell was, for all the noise, a “Don’t Do” as far as gay-basher Barack Obama was concerned. We knew Obama cannot be trusted. We knew it would take a massive defeat in November for elected Obama Dimocrats to rehab at the Detox Party. We knew Obama is the Third Bush Term. Now as more Americans realize we have been correct, even the Hopium Guzzling boobs who supported corrupt Boob Obama have become racists attacking their golden calf for his “achievements”:

“Guantanamo Bay is still open. There is no public option for health insurance. Gay men and women cannot serve openly in the military. Obama has 50,000 troops in Iraq, and more troops in Afghanistan than George W. Bush had on his last day in office. The Patriot Act was renewed with no added oversight of surveillance. You still can’t buy reimported prescription drugs. And if Obama’s latest deal becomes law, Bush’s “tax cuts for the rich” will continue.”

Obama has been too busy to attend to his “promises”.

So there was another party at the White House. Many people at that party wanted to see the Boob. They would have waited. They would have understood that the economy is more important that socializing with sleeveless. But Obama cannot help but overtly betray where his priorities lay. Obama’s priority is parties, trips, vacations. The economy? Let them it cake.

Racist Bernie Sanders (he must be a Rat Bastard Racist with a white hood on right? – he’s not supporting Barack Obama after all and that is the new measure of “racism”) was at the Senate pretending to filibuster Obama’s New Deal, Obama Dimocrats are saying F*ck Barack Obama at a Dimocratic House caucus, and racist Jim Moran shouting “I don’t know where the F*ck Obama is on this”, Jerry Nadler borrows our catechism and says “Obama can’t be trusted” – and bleeping Barack Obama goes to a party. Unbelievable!

Again, inviting President Bill Clinton to the White House was a smart idea. But somehow Obama does not understand that it is called “television”. It’s not “talkatube”. What you see is what you get. The message from the entire good idea on paper blew up because Obama walked off. It was a horrible visual which sent out a message more eloquently than words can ever express: “I don’t care and I don’t care that you know I don’t care“.

Now, perhaps it is just that Barack Obama cannot stand Bill Clinton and could not bear another moment of a master, without a TelePromTer, at work. Perhaps Barack just could not stand the idea of watching Bill Clinton show him how it is done. Perhaps Barack did not want to have Michelle go on a sleeve yanking rampage at the party and he imagined Michelle assaulting the guests’ arms and stripping the screaming socialites of their arm covering. Perhaps. That makes much more sense than taking a hike.

Conservative website HotAir is as stunned as we are:

“Great news: Bill Clinton apparently now president again

The depressing truth: Given the alternative, it really would be great news.

I can’t do justice to what you’re about to see. The spectacle of the president bugging out of his own press conference to go to a Christmas party is weird enough, but having Clinton back at the White House podium fielding questions on the hottest domestic issue of the day shoots past deja vu and lands firmly in “am I hallucinating?” territory. (The good news: It turned Twitter into an hour-long snark free-for-all, with Michael Goldfarb taking first prize.) I get that The One’s trying to leverage BJ’s popularity to pressure Democratic fencesitters on the tax deal. What I don’t get is why he’d leave him alone to address reporters, suggesting either (a) that Obama doesn’t respect a former president — who’s doing him a favor — enough to change his schedule to accommodate him or (b) Obama’s confidence in his own ability to influence the caucus is now so low that he figures the tax deal will stand a better chance if he just gets out of the spotlight entirely. The second option seems implausible given what we know of The One’s ego, but after yesterday’s revolt in the House and after a full year of epic fail in selling ObamaCare to the public, who knows what he’s thinking anymore? As a presidential scholar said to McClatchy, putting it mildly, “He is not a great persuader.”

Adding to the exquisite oddness of the scene: Thanks to his op-ed this morning insisting that Obama totally rolled the GOP on the tax cuts deal, Charles Krauthammer is now “a brilliant man” in Clinton’s eyes. Exit question: The White House is very keen to reassure liberals that Obama is not, repeat not, trying to “triangulate” ahead of 2012. Er, is a big showy meeting at the White House with Bill Clinton really the best way to communicate that message? What’s next, a joint press conference with Dick Morris?”

At conservative Michelle Malkin’s website hill-arity:

“A few minutes in, President Obama excused himself because he had to “get to a Christmas party.” Clinton barely batted an eye while continuing to take questions for another half-hour under the “White House” backdrop, leaving onlookers with a palpable “let the adults take over now, Barry” feeling:

After the 2008 media deification of Barack Obama, that was like watching somebody who was billed as Zeus getting into a fight and responding by hiding behind his dad.

Why would Obama leave Clinton alone with the press corps under these conditions? A bigger mistake hasn’t been made since Eddie Fisher agreed to let Elizabeth Taylor share a makeup trailer with Richard Burton on the set of Cleopatra.

I always thought a “Hillary 2012″ challenge was a real possibility — I just didn’t think Obama would help usher it in so agreeably.”

Frankly, neither did we. We thought our strategy of “run him out” was going to take a bit more effort.

The self-styled “morons” at Ace of Spades rotated their heads 380 degrees:

There are no words.

That was the most surreal thing. Obama said he was keeping the First Lady waiting and had to go. That left Clinton to vouch for the tax deal and relive his glory days.

Obama has just announced what we’ve all known…he’s simply not up to the job.

It was equal parts funny, pathetic and quite frankly, a little scary.”

At other conservative websites it was noted that the “first black president“, the one who improved the lives of black people and was a trusted friends who later on became a “racist”, was back. In “Did Obama Just Quit?” Jim Treacher wrote “Say what you want about Sarah Palin quitting her job, but at least she finished her own press conference.” Palin, working in Haiti, could not be reached for comment.

It’s not just conservatives taking note of Bill Clinton working while Obama parties. At the back in the action PUMA P.A.C. the question is one of Czar Clinton – in charge of the Executive Branch. Jake Tapper had no words either – but he did have a picture.

While Bill Clinton tries to “help” the Boob-in-chief the racists are running amok. This church of latter day racists composed of Obama supporters during 2008 has written a letter calling for “civil disobedience” against Mess-iah Obama. Oh, the humanity. Let’s examine what the racists who dare attack “the One Termer” are whining about now:

“An Open Letter to the Left Establishment

by: By Chris Hedges, Cornell West, Noam Chomsky, et. al., t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

With the Obama administration beginning its third year, it is by now painfully obvious that the predictions of even the most sober Obama supporters were overly optimistic. Rather than an ally, the administration has shown itself to be an implacable enemy of reform.”

We didn’t know there were any “sober” Obama supporters. We thought, and have been proven right, that these were Hopium Guzzlers tripping out in Cult headquarters. Now we see that after the consumption of mass quantities of Hopium the next step is donning of white hoods to attack “the One Termer”. Let’s continue with the racist whine against Obama:

“It has advanced repeated assaults on the New Deal safety net (including the previously sacrosanct Social Security trust fund), jettisoned any hope for substantive health care reform, attacked civil rights and environmental protections, and expanded a massive bailout further enriching an already bloated financial services and insurance industry. It has continued the occupation of Iraq and and expanded the war in Afghanistan as well as our government’s covert and overt wars in South Asia and across the globe.

Along the way, the Obama administration, which referred to us on the left as “f***ing retarded” individuals who required “drug testing,” stepped up the prosecution of federal war crime whistleblowers, and unleashed the FBI on those protesting the escalation of an insane war.

Obama’s recent announcement of a federal worker pay freeze is cynical, mean-spirited “deficit-reduction theater”. Slashing Bush’s plutocratic tax cuts would have made a much more significant contribution to deficit reduction but all signs are that the “progressive” president will cave to Republican demands for the preservation of George W. Bush’s tax breaks for the wealthy Few. Instead Obama’s tax cut plan would raise taxes for the poorest people in our country.

The election of Obama has not galvanized protest movements. To the contrary, it has depressed and undermined them, with the White House playing an active role in the discouragement and suppression of dissent with disastrous consequences. The almost complete absence of protest from the left has emboldened the most right-wing elements inside and outside of the Obama administration to pursue and act on an ever more extreme agenda.”

We’re all tea partiers now it seems. It took these dullards this long to figure out that Obama has a yellow streak down his back, or should we say an opportunistic streak? These dolts do not deserve to lead anything if it take them this long to get a clue. Here is what these “teed off baggers” want to do against Mess-iah Obama:

“We are asking you to commit yourself to actively supporting the protests of Obama administration policies which are now beginning to materialize.

In this connection we would like to mention a specific protest: the civil disobedience action being planned by Veterans for Peace involving Chris Hedges, Daniel Ellsberg, Joel Kovel, Medea Benjamin, Ray McGovern, several armed service veterans and others to take place in front of the White House on Dec. 16th.

Will Glenn Beck be there? If not they better get some comedians if they expect a crowd. Signatories to this racist screed include: Sen. James Abourezk, Michael Albert, Rocky Anderson, Jared Ball, Russell Banks, Thomas Bias, Noam Chomsky, Bruce Dixon, Frank Dorrel, Gidon Eshel, Jamilla El-Shafei, Okla Elliott, Norman Finkelstein, Glen Ford, Joshua Frank, Margaret Flowers M.D., John Gerassi, Henry Giroux, Matt Gonzalez, Kevin Alexander Gray, Judd Greenstein, DeeDee Halleck, John Halle, Chris Hedges, Doug Henwood, Edward S. Herman, Dahr Jamail, Louis Kampf, Allison Kilkenny, Jamie Kilstein, Joel Kovel, Mark Kurlansky, Peter Linebaugh, Scott McLarty, Cynthia McKinney, Dede Miller, Russell Mokhiber, Bobby Muller, Christian Parenti, Michael Perelman, Peter Phillips, Louis Proyect, Ted Rall, Michael Ratner, Cindy Sheehan, Chris Spannos, Paul Street, Sunil Sharma, Jeffrey St. Clair, Len Weinglass, Cornel West, Sherry Wolf, Michael Yates, Mickey Z,
Kevin Zeese.

Don’t be concerned – We don’t know who most of these people are either. Rat Bastard Racists. All they want is an invitation to a White House party and they won’t bother to attend their “protest”.



But let’s get back to The Boob and Bill. Did Bill Clinton really tell Obama “please go”?????:

“Former President Bill Clinton gave a statement after his meeting with President Obama about his tax compromise with the Republicans.



However, after his statement, Clinton began to call on and take questions from the press with Obama at his side. Obama leaves promptly after a few moments and said he had to see Michelle, as he was keeping her “waiting.”



I don’t want to make her mad, please go,” Clinton told Obama.”

What about Bill Clinton? Why would Bill Clinton go to the White House to support Barack Obama? First of all, Bill Clinton knows that every appearance side by side with Barack Obama is a plus for him and a loss for Barack Obama. Bill Clinton knows it is “television” and that the image matters. Bill Clinton knows that when he speaks with authority and deep knowledge and “feel your pain” language he is at his strongest. Bill Clinton knows that Barack Obama, wimpy and lurching with a smashed lip, desperately leaning on TelePrompTers is a total loser and that total loserhood is blatant when they stand side by side.

Bill Clinton knows that children eventually give up the little training wheels on their first bicycle and “go solo” without the safety net of the little wheels. It’s how they learn. But Barack Obama has not let go of his training wheels TelePrompTer and that is why he still has not mastered policy and how to explain complex issues in language that clarifies.

Bill Clinton knows all this and further knows the country is desperate for leadership – so think of yesterday as both a Christmas gift of leadership and a nasty reminder to the Dimocratic party and the electorate of the great Mistake In ’08.

Second of all, Bill Clinton knows that for all the complaints from the whiners in the Obama Dimocratic Caucus and in the Senate this Obama New Deal, a mockery of FDR’s New Deal, is going to pass because there will be sufficient Republican votes to make up for lost racist Dimocratic votes.

Third, Bill Clinton must know that the horrid Obama New Deal is not going to help the economy. We say that for the very same reason we opposed the Obama “stimulus” and the Obama budget in 2009: what is needed is a comprehensive plan for the economy not “deals” that ignore reality (and the deal are back “big time” for this stinking mess). The bottom line is that whatever “stimulus” this new mess of a plan provides will be negated by bankrupt state governments, the ever rising deficits (latest report has it at $150.4 Billion in November alone) and growth of the debt.

What is needed, as we wrote so long ago, is a comprehensive plan, comprehensively explained. Instead what we get is a Boob lurching over an economic balloon stepping here then having to step there but the economic balloon keeps flummoxing the Boob.



Fourth, Bill Clinton had forty-four bricks to deliver to drowning Barack Obama. Bill Clinton knows that in 2012 Barack Obama will not be able to run by promising to keep the promises he made in 2008 which are the same promises he broke in 2010 but promised to correct in 2012. So give the drowning man what he deserves – some heavy bricks to sink him further. For a smart pool/billards player or good chess player – positioning matters. The eight ball commeth.

Lastly, there is one more matter that Big Media outlets like Politico (which quotes Obama adviser Pfeiffer, a man who has not a clue about what he is talking about) do not understand: triangulation. There are a lot of stupid articles attempting to give Obama credit for doing what Bill Clinton did. But that is a false comparison. Sean Trende in an excellent article on why Obama’s New Deal makes no sense for Barack Obama explains triangulation and why Obama is not doing what Bill did:

“I will say that, while I might not always agree with his decisions, I can usually see the logic behind them.

Not so with the recent compromise on extending the Bush tax cuts. [snip]

The president then held a press conference where he blasted Republicans as “hostage takers,” derided liberals as “sanctimonious,” and reiterated his opposition to extending the Bush tax rates for higher earners as something the country couldn’t afford.

I can honestly think of no good reason for this behavior. To the extent that there might be some rationale for the deal, it was upended by the subsequent press conference. Here are four rationales I can think of, and why I don’t think any of them work. [snip]

(1) He thinks it is good policy — This is obviously not the case, given how heavily he blasted the deal at his press conference. [snip]

(2) He wants to look bipartisan [snip]

Simply put, if you are hoping to look bipartisan and mend fences with the other side, you do not turn around and blast them as “hostage takers,” and deride their goals. [snip]

(3) He wants to keep the issue alive for 2012 [snip]

By ultimately accepting all of the Bush tax cuts for another two years, it makes it very difficult for the president to turn around and deride them on the 2012 campaign trail. Perhaps most importantly, it becomes well-nigh impossible to use the issue to excite his base, which won’t trust him on the issue anymore.

(4) He is trying to triangulate — I think this is probably the most likely scenario, and it is certainly the angle most analysts have focused on. But if the president is trying to triangulate, he is doing so poorly. Bill Clinton famously “triangulated” against the GOP in 1995 and 1996 by fusing the most popular elements of the Republican agenda – like middle class tax cuts, welfare reform, and crime control – with popular elements of the Democratic agenda – protecting Medicare, Medicaid, Education and the Environment (the famous “M2E2” strategy).

In other words, Clinton didn’t compromise. His position was a defined point on the triangle, separate and distinct from the Republican and Democratic positions. He was in essence a third party, placed between the major parties, and he fought for his platform vigorously. He acquiesced to a shutdown in the government, gambling that because his position was the more popular one, that the Republicans would bear the brunt of the public’s ire. And he was right.

Obama has, in essence, capitulated on the eve of the government shutdown. What makes this so flummoxing is that he actually held a pretty strong hand. He easily could have waited for all of the tax cuts to expire, for the unemployment insurance benefits to run out (right before Christmas!!!), and pointed the fingers at the Republicans and their insistence on preserving tax cuts for Paris Hilton. Bill Clinton would have won that argument walking away. Instead of staking out a strong position, the president looks to have caved in to Republican demands, causing him to appear weak and diminishing his political standing.

I think the president may have made one more grave miscalculation. The left grumbled about Clinton’s triangulation, and sometimes broke with him (remember, the 1997 balanced budget agreement had about 70 nay votes in the House, most of which were Democrats). But they largely tolerated him, because they thought that he was the only thing standing between the programs that they held most sacred and the Republican Visigoths at the gate. Remember, in 1995, Clinton’s 1992 win looked very much like a fluke brought about by the economy and the Ross Perot win, and the conservative Republican wins of 1980-88 and 1994 looked more like the natural trajectory of the country.

I don’t think that’s the case today. The left is still feeling its oats, and believes that there is still an emerging Democratic majority, and a liberal one at that. I don’t think it has the same tolerance for triangulation that it did in 1996. [snip]

Even if he does get the bill through, the odds of a primary challenge have increased dramatically.”

The Mistake In ’08 is not only the gifting of the Democratic Party nomination to an inexperienced, unqualified, corrupt Boob. It is also the belief in crackpot theories of demographic destiny. These are theories and outrages that must be pushed into the depths of Lake Michigan to suffer a watery death.

We have come a long way in our strategy of running the Boob out of the White House along with his thugs, enablers, and Hopium addled army of zombies. Yesterday was an important day in our fight. The entire past week was good for our fight. The month after the November election has been good for our fight. The entire past year has been good for our fight.

We’ve come a long way baby. Even if only for a brief half hour, we saw a president Clinton in the house. Imagine that for four years – a leader – that’s a change we can believe in.

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347 thoughts on “Racists Surround White House And Attack Mess-iah Obama – Obama Abdicates – President Bill Clinton Back In The White House

  1. Bill Clinton famously “triangulated” against the GOP in 1995 and 1996 by fusing the most popular elements of the Republican agenda – like middle class tax cuts, welfare reform, and crime control – with popular elements of the Democratic agenda – protecting Medicare, Medicaid, Education and the Environment (the famous “M2E2″ strategy).

    In other words, Clinton didn’t compromise. His position was a defined point on the triangle, separate and distinct from the Republican and Democratic positions. He was in essence a third party, placed between the major parties, and he fought for his platform vigorously.

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    Right right right! ‘Triangulation’ at that time equalled ‘Third Way.’

    Or as someone said, ‘Using our tools to fix their car, and vv.’

  2. Bll Clinton is carrying forty-four bricks in his briefcase. Yesterday he delivered them to drowning Barack Obama.

    lol good one!

  3. It was worth the wait, admin.

    BTW, I came across this really bizarre clip of Putin singing “Blueberry Hill” and for some reason the contrast between big bad Putin showing his kinder gentler side and Squat pouting and petulant and throwing a temper tantrum on national TV seemed apropos.

    I’m not sure why.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxjetOwwRsw

  4. Admin, I don’t know if you can embed this pic but here are two shots of yesterday’s presser stitched together.

    The first is of BC and squat entering the press room. BC has a broad smile on his face while Squat is scowling and his hands are clenched.

    The second is the now infamous turning-his-back-on-the American-people shot.

    You might enjoy it. A picture is worth 1000 words.

    http://js-kit.com/blob/DNb3r_o5nznrWM6RGwwOfk.jpg

  5. It was a horrible visual which sent out a message more eloquently than words can ever express: “I don’t care and I don’t care that you know I don’t care“.

    Yup.

    And this, sigh, is what I admire about admin, too.

    The ability to “explain complex issues in language that clarifies.”

    It’s a gift.

  6. Great post admin. So worth the wait.

    Wonder how many feel like complete asses for gifting us this boob. I don’t think it was planned as megalomaniacs are the easiest people to manipulate, feed the ego a bit and as they ostensibly believe they can walk on water they hang themselves. He probably didn’t think their was anything untoward about walking out remember this is the guy who gave Hillary the bird at least twice with impunity from the press and the populace.

    Anywho Happy Holidays to all.
    This always puts a smile on my face.
    Yelstin and Bill laughing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHfbpL0NDmw

  7. henry,

    What a great clip! And you can’t help laughing along with BC! For all his faults the man is a brilliant, authenthic, down-to-earth certifiable human!

    Can you imagine Squat ever letting the mask slip? BC doesn’t have to worry about that.

    I’m going to go back and watcht that clip again. It brightened myevening.

    😀

  8. “It’s as if Big Pink vomited all over the front pages of every newspaper and news broadcast in the nation.”

    I officially love you.

    ““Guantanamo Bay is still open. There is no public option for health insurance. Gay men and women cannot serve openly in the military. Obama has 50,000 troops in Iraq, and more troops in Afghanistan than George W. Bush had on his last day in office. The Patriot Act was renewed with no added oversight of surveillance. You still can’t buy reimported prescription drugs. And if Obama’s latest deal becomes law, Bush’s “tax cuts for the rich” will continue.””

    There’s that pesky backtracking on reproductive choice for women but hey that’s not important enough to even fucking mention, is it? Fuck the newspapers. Fuck them sideways.

    You know, I agreed with all of the speculation that said that Hillary would not primary him. I am still over 50% convinced of that. Normally, primarying a sitting president is a death sentence for one, politically. But … I have to say, this has been a game-changing event. There is no way the Dems can run him now. Granted, this is the Democratic party we’re talking about here, and if anyone can pull defeat from the jaws of victory, they can. But I guarantee there are a lot of Dem bigwigs and party kingmakers, the same craven shitheads who put that dork in the WH in the first place, wearing out the carpets with pacing and going, “We CANNOT run him again. We CANNOT.”

    I still am under 50% likelihood in thinking of Hillary running again … but this is indeed a game-changer. I just don’t know anymore.

  9. “the horrid Obama New Deal is not going to help the economy”

    Absolutley agree. They keep harping on this SS payroll tax reduction, well guess what? its not for employers, its for employees. And so not only you are raiding, in essense, the SS fund as less revenues will be comning in, employees will not be going out and buying stuff, they will be paying off their debts or saving it since in just 1 year those taxes will go up again.

    The only thing I may take advantage off for my small business and I have heard others say the same, is perhaps buy some office equipment, a computer or 2, since that will be tax reduction for biz purchases, but hiring more people? no way. just in 18 months, Waffles will be back on stage bashing Americans, bashing anyone who is trying to grow a business, same old classware crap, calling people racists…etc

    As for Bill, he immediately got it when he was at that podium, he said, No classwarfare. He didn’t have to triangulate, he was a moderate centerist politician to begin with, he was after all a governor of a conservative state. Waffles cannot triangulate because he cannot even pretend to show he agrees with those fiscal conservative, pro-growth policies that he loathes, what business and americans will trust him?

    But we have an ignorant America-bashing fool in that position now, will anyone expand any business just to have it punished in 2 years, No way.

  10. Janis, Hillary will not primary Obama. But that is near irrelevant. What we need is a/some stalking horse to primary him like Gene McCarthy did to LBJ. A better reference to our minds is Tom Harkin taking on George H.W. Bush when he was at 90% approval. Already Mike Gravel and Ralph Nader are likely to primary Obama. They will possibly be followed with more substantial candidates.

    After the stalking horse, Rachel Alexandra (a.k.a. Hillary) comes into the race. Remember after Gene came Bobby, after Tom came Bill. That’s why last year we wrote our “Howard Dean For President” article. Set ’em up, knock ’em down.

  11. Janis,

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/10/AR2010121005182.html

    Washington post columnist Colbert King emphatically disagrees.
    Here are some of his arguments.
    I hope you’re right and he’s wrong coz I don’t think I can tolerate another two years of race-baiting.

    Memo to the left: Hands off Obama
    ************************************
    Warning: If the Democratic left does to Obama in 2012 what it did to incumbent President Carter in 1980 via Ted Kennedy’s damaging Democratic presidential primary challenge – or what the Republican right did to incumbent President George H.W. Bush in 1992 with Pat Buchanan’s entry into the GOP primary – the Democratic party as a whole will find itself paying a steep price for years to come.
    That’s a promise, not a threat.
    *********************************************************************
    It’s unlikely Obama could emerge from a time-consuming and costly primary fight strong enough to run a competitive race against a Republican Party that is expected to be energized, united and determined to take back the White House in 2012.
    Republicans would have the Democratic left to thank for that.
    Make no mistake, however: If the left costs Obama his presidency in 2012, the Democratic Party as a whole will lose out.
    ******************************************************************************
    Sabotage the nation’s first black president and the Democratic Party might as well bid farewell to its most loyal base of supporters: African Americans.
    In 2008, the turnout for young black eligible voters was higher than that of young eligible voters of any other racial or ethnic group, according to the Pew Research Center. Consider them gone in future congressional and presidential elections if the left dooms Obama in 2012.
    The 2 million more blacks who voted in 2008 than in 2004 because of Barack Obama? Say bye-bye to them, too. As for African American women, the group with the highest voter turnout rate in the 2008 presidential election? Don’t even ask.

  12. I still cannot believe that he actually left to attend a party, my customers in my shop were just watching the TV stunned. Few were dems and few were repubs, all pretty conservative, and they were all snickering and just shaking their heads saying, is this for real? is this actually happening? and the repubs said, Clinton never did anything like this, and the dems were saying, Bush never did anything like this.
    Nothing like Waffles to unite conservative, centerist, moderate dems, repubs, independents…. against him.

  13. So Colbert King is now using that race card like a weapon. Huh, never saw that comning /sarc. So he’s admiting Waffles isn’t qualified, and has no clue what he’s doing, but should be held to a lower standard because of his race?!?

  14. Eh, I think Bill Clinton was and is a Democrat with a brilliant style for framing, not some third Party entity taking up space in the Democratic Party. I think when bill clinton called this the “best bipartisan agreement” he was kicking Obama in the teeth because there was no reason to have a “bipartisan” agreement. This was the issue to stand up for Democratic principles. There was no way the public was going to accept UI benefits running out before Christmas, and if he had simply allowed the tax cuts to expire, he could have proposed retroactive cuts for the middle class in the next term and been the hero. Republicans would have crumbled under the sound of the electorate telling them to pass the cuts.

  15. After the stalking horse, Rachel Alexandra (a.k.a. Hillary) comes into the race. Remember after Gene came Bobby, after Tom came Bill. That’s why last year we wrote our “Howard Dean For President” article. Set ‘em up, knock ‘em down.

    =========================

    Yep, I’d love to see Dean use the caucus insurgent technique (especially in red states!) against Obama. Or rather, I’d love to see Dean PLAN to use it, so that the DNC would guard against it, neuter the caucuses — leaving the primaries to decide — for Hillary!

  16. So where are these disillusioned Black voters going to go?

    Suppose they all stay home — and all HIllary’s voters of all colors turn out?

  17. Great post, admin. I’ve been giddy as hell despite feeling like shit over this turn of events. I think my analysis yesterday was spot on about BO’s reaction.

    Reading Krauthammer’s column, I have some misgivings about his analysis of the tax plan in play. I think both parties are screwed and ultimately, the American people are screwed. I agree we need a BIG PLAN and not a bunch of band-aids. I do not think this will help unemployment nor will it boost the GDP.

    The fact is: we do not manufacture shit anymore. We have a failing economy because we have NO economy. We need a product. Hell, we need about a dozen products the rest of the world cannot live without and we need to get people back to work. Sure, a white collar job is the “dream,” but right now, any goddamn job is a dream. We all know the 10% unemployment rate is BS. They’re still using Bush’s hide-it formula. Living in a college town, you should see the number of kids with degrees who can’t do better than work at McDonald’s (if they get a shot at it- 250 applicants for one job these days)because they haven’t found work for a year and a half. A good pal is an ALJ at the state’s unemployment commission and they say it is the worst it has ever been and getting worse each week. And this is in a state that is doing fairly well comparatively.

    They’re just not getting IT in DC. The GOP didn’t win and BO did not better his reelection chances. He looks weak, the GOp looks as if it learned nothing of ’06 and ’08 and the American people still lose.

    I decided to support and work for Bill’s ’92 campaign because he was the only candidate who pushed for R&D monies. I supported Hillary because of a lot of reasons- chief among them her support for building small electric plants in each community that used green resources like algae. We need longterm jobs. Not a Korean war redux to jump us out of this. We need to be able to export a commodity or a product- not our jobs and our economy.

    As Bill said, “It’s the economy, stupid.”

    I think he and Hillary are the only two people in DC who get that.

  18. basil9 – do you happen to remember where that clip was from? I saw Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell in the audience, as well as Sharon Stone.

    Anyway, I was really wondering, because one of the backdrops was of an alternating series of boy-girl-boy-girl, with these “ribbons” making a kind of argyle pattern – the pattern had the ribbons going around the boy figures but THROUGH the girl figures – and the girl figures were smaller. It just seemed really weird to me…

    Maybe it was for a charity – that helps kids – that doesn’t like girls though? lol

  19. I have been waiting for Admin to chime in on yesterdays Clinton take over of WH press room, nursing the latest holiday bug has put me in slo-mo on the net…….

    “While Bill Clinton tries to “help” the Boob-in-chief the racists are running amok. This church of latter day racists composed of Obama supporters during 2008………”

    Don’t have the energy to quote some of her/his best lines, but having Admin put their stamp on yesterday makes it all the more real.

    Awesome again, Admin!

  20. admin
    December 11th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    Someone told us Bill Clinton was “rectangulating” Obama
    _________________

    BC was reticulating… not even triangulating, yet.

  21. The month after the November election has been good for our fight. The entire past year has been good for our fight.

    We’ve come a long way baby. Even if only for a brief half hour, we saw a president Clinton in the house. Imagine that for four years – a leader – that’s a change we can believe in.

    –Yes Admin, it was surreal listening to Bill talk in the WhiteHouse without Barry there at all. It wasn’t Hillary, but it is as close to our dream as could be for the past umpteen many, long, ugly years.

  22. Has the world gone mad?

    Seems Canadian prime Minster Stephen Harpe

    ———-
    I loved it, their prime singing: “…I get high with a little help from my friends….” “…I just need somebody to love…”

    All we get is a lazy ass guy with a fat lip that won’t do his job.

  23. Saturday Night Live is dull as ever. The opening skit was “Obama” speaking from the Oval Office. The conceit was that Obama is now quoting Rush Limbaugh, happy only with the Bush tax cuts, mocking “San Francisco Nancy” and about to join Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly as part of the “Bold Fresh Tour”.

    It is hard to mock someone as absurd as Obama but SNL did not really try. Yank that show off the air just like a sleeve on Michelle’s frocks.

  24. Re-post from previous thread…what a real Socialist thinks of Obama:

    Clear eyed analysis of a Trotsky-ite:

    What lies behind the liberals’ lamentations over Obama?
    By Barry Grey
    11 December 2010

    “President Barack Obama’s groveling before the Republicans and his lurch to the right, highlighted by his deal to extend tax cuts for the rich, have evoked a new outpouring of hand-wringing commentary by his supporters on the liberal left.

    Reading the various articles, one does not know which is more repugnant, their stupidity or their cynicism.

    The general theme of these commentaries—amidst the pleading, scolding and whelps of despair—is that Obama must reclaim his “core values” and start fighting the Republican right. It is summed up by Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, who writes: “At this point, the strategy is to shame [Obama] into fighting.”
    (snip)

    Vanden Heuvel objects to Obama’s leaning toward the notion that “we should impose austerity now, instead of working to get the economy going.
    (snip)
    Absurdly inflating Obama’s stature, she declares: “This president has a historic mandate. Just as Abraham Lincoln had to lead the nation from slavery and Franklin Roosevelt from the Depression, this president must lead the nation from the calamitous failures of three decades of conservative dominance.”

    This, she continues, “is the necessary function of a progressive president… If he shirks it, [Obama] risks a failed presidency.”

    This, of course, assumes that we should all devoutly wish for a “successful” Obama presidency. Reading such nonsense, one is struck by just how conservative and conventional these ladies and gentlemen are. And how intellectually impoverished!
    (snip)

    In the end, they brand Obama a progressive on the grounds that he is Democrat and an African-American. Here on full display is the political bankruptcy of the rejection of social class as the basic criterion in politics and its replacement by race and other forms of personal identity.
    (snip)

    What really upsets them about the crass manner in which Obama prostrates himself before the Republicans and Wall Street is how thoroughly it exposes their own role in promoting him and aiding the marketing campaign that was used to get him elected. They are terrified that their political dog and pony show built around Obama has so quickly and ignominiously collapsed.

    This only makes them wedded all the more firmly to Obama. They twist and turn and engage in all manner of sophistry and outright lying to try and convince the people that, despite everything, Obama can be made to “fight” and act on his “progressive” inclinations.

  25. This is the perfect description of the “Obama’s Last Stand” Obots:

    …”tax cuts for the rich, have evoked a new outpouring of hand-wringing commentary by his supporters on the liberal left.

    Reading the various articles, one does not know which is more repugnant, their stupidity or their cynicism….

  26. James Galbraith loved Obama. Now, too late:

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/08/whose_side_is_white_house_on/index.html

    The text of this speech, which was delivered at the Americans for Democratic Action Education Fund’s Post-election Conference last month, originally appeared at new deal 2.0 and is republished with permission

    Recovery begins with realism and there is nothing to be gained by kidding ourselves. On the topics that I know most about, the administration is beyond being a disappointment. It’s beyond inept, unprepared, weak, and ineffective. Four and again two years ago, the people demanded change. As a candidate, the President promised change. In foreign policy and the core economic policies, he delivered continuity instead. That was true on Afghanistan and it was and is true in economic policy, especially in respect to the banks. What we got was George W. Bush’s policies without Bush’s toughness, without his in-your-face refusal to compromise prematurely. Without what he himself calls his understanding that you do not negotiate with yourself.

    It’s a measure of where we are, I think, that at a meeting of Americans for Democratic Action, you find me comparing President Obama unfavorably to President George W. Bush.

  27. Obama called his leftist critics sanctimonious. Now they have called him far worse. But Obama will always have the last word, because as he points out once, twice or maybe a thousand times he won. So what does this winner, this messiah, this man for all seasons, this Zeus say to those who call him bad names? He sticks his nose high in the air and says to them “I don’t care”, and acts out this little vignette by Judy Garland:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Q3gd6S1as

  28. Clinton Refuses to Leave White House
    Installs Self in Oval Office

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    But twenty-four hours after former President Bill Clinton appeared at the White House to endorse President Obama’s tax plan, Mr. Obama is “still looking for the right way to ask him to leave,” an aide confirmed today.

    Mr. Obama had assumed that once the former President wrapped things up with reporters yesterday, he would say his goodbyes and depart in a waiting car, “but that kind of didn’t happen,” the aide said.

    “Clinton kind of went, ‘Do you have a computer I can use? I just want to check my email,’ and then kind of made himself at home in the Oval Office,” he said. “The President was being polite and all, but you could tell he was kind of pissed.”

    After spending the better part of two hours surfing the Internet and watching YouTube videos, the former President announced, “Am I the only one around here who’s hungry? Let’s send [Press Secretary Robert] Gibbs on a Pizza Hut run.”

    The aide said that Mr. Obama decided to play “a waiting game” with Mr. Clinton, explaining, “Even the Salahis left eventually.”

    But after spending the night “crashing in the Lincoln Bedroom,” the former President was back in the Oval Office, chatting away on the phone.

    “He could be there for awhile,” the aide said. “He’s talking to Bernie Sanders.”

    ——————

    masslib posted it at Alegre’s Corner. Too good not to share.

  29. SHV check out the Galbraith article we posted. What you ask is a question that continues to stun: “one does not know which is more repugnant, their stupidity or their cynicism?”

    One of our favorite quotes is “the gullibility of the cynical”. Our operating theory is that the stupidity goes hand in hand with the cynicism.

  30. It’s a measure of where we are, I think, that at a meeting of Americans for Democratic Action, you find me comparing President Obama unfavorably to President George W. Bush
    —————————————–
    A new theory of relativity will be needed to explain this unnaturally occurring phenomenon. The left confesses that their light of love is worse than Bush whom they hated with a hate that was more than a hate.

  31. basil9
    December 11th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    —————
    LOL…it isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last time Harper sings for his supper. 🙂

  32. Who wants to bet that it will be a heck of a long time before obama invites Bill back to the big house.

    Talk about stepping in quicksand.

  33. December 11, 2010

    Obama and Arab Imperialism

    By Amil Imani

    Have you ever asked yourself why Barack Hussein Obama began his presidency by shocking America with his grandiose trip of apology and appeasement to “the Muslim world”? Did you ever ask yourself where on earth he derived the notion that America is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world”? How in the world did he come up with the notion that Islam has been a part of America since its founding?

    Have you wondered why President Obama refused to say a word on behalf of millions of Iranians flooding the streets of their major cities in the summer of 2009 as they voiced their opposition to the illegitimate mullahcracy that has been enslaving Iranian people for more than three decades? Or why Obama allowed his national security advisor John Brennan to henceforth refer to Jerusalem, the capital of Israel for millennia, as “Al Quds” — the Arabic Muslim name for the city? “Such a signal from an American Arab working in the White House could not be accidental, and instead comes off as a clear sign of an Arab tilt, a slight not lost on the Israelis. Underlining the anti-Israeli spin, the President just completed a trip to Indonesia, another visit to another major Muslim capital. Obama has yet to visit Israel.”

    Do you recall how Obama snubbed Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minster of Israel, at the White House during his visit? And how he is funding Hamas openly via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the State Department — sending hundreds of millions of our tax dollars to our sworn enemies, Islamist terrorists who are dedicated upon the destruction of Israel? And keep in mind that Obama is brazenly fostering this goal despite what he reads from his duo of teleprompters.

    In the Washington Post’s editorial “Mr. Mubarak vs. Mr. Obama,” the paper clearly reveals Obama’s weakness vis-à-vis Arab imperialism.

    He should end the State Department’s practice of allowing Egypt to exercise a veto over which civil society groups receive U.S. aid, and he should encourage Congress to link military funds to human rights, as it has for several democracies that are U.S. allies. Most of all, Mr. Obama should make it clear that he will not be dismissed or pushed around by Arab strongmen. If Mr. Mubarak gets away with it, others will be quick to follow his example.

    Now, Obama has informed the United States Navy that the Persian Gulf shall no longer be referred to as such (though it has been thus defined for thousands of years). From now on, it must be named the “Arabian Gulf.”

    It is highly illogical and grossly irresponsible for the Obama administration to arbitrarily order our men and women in the Department of U.S. Navy to use the name “Arabian Gulf” in place of its historical name. This is completely in contradiction with Obama’s Persian New Year Message to the Iranian people more than a year ago in which he called Iran “a great civilization.”

    One wonders what motivated this blatant action by the Obama administration — perhaps a simple arrogant exercise of power or capitulation to the financial rewards offered by recently created sheikdoms and Arab lords in the Persian Gulf region who aim to further their world standing at the expense of others. In 1974, in an interview with the late shah of Iran, Mike Wallace asked His Majesty why the Arabs call it the Arabian Gulf. Here is an excellent response by His Majesty regarding this issue.

    Appeasing the Arab countries (the same Arab countries who brought down the World Trade Center in New York City) will change neither the historical name of Jerusalem nor the body of water called the Persian Gulf. It is one thing for the Obama administration to depict the map of the world as is and another thing to manipulate it. It is one thing for any business to market its product and it is another thing to peddle something it does not own.

    It did not take long for the Iranians around the world to take their frustration into the U.S. Navy Facebook website, which resulted in a lame response from the administrator of the site:

    The reason why the Navy chooses to use “Arabian Gulf” and not the historically used “Persian Gulf” is that “Arabian Gulf” is the naming convention recognized by our regional Arab partner nations and used by the U.S. Navy in the 5th Fleet area of operations.

    Iranians were quick to respond with their own sense of humor: based on the Facebook response and according to Arab partners in all fleet areas, this is what the United States would look like — the United States of Arabia. Also, in a petition, Iranians have requested “respectfully that the U.S. Navy revert back this recent gross oversight that may result in unimaginable and irreversible consequences in fostering good relations with the people of Iran at a critical time in history. The U.S. foreign policy should support secular, freedom-loving forces to gain long-term benefits.”

    Demanding that the name of the Persian Gulf be retained goes beyond the fact that the Persians are rightfully proud of their heritage and strive to preserve the integrity of the historical documents that reference it as such. Iranians wish to retain their non-Arab heritage and strongly resent any attempt at denigrating or changing any aspect of their Iranian identity. Even inside Iran, the Iranian people have been constantly fighting and opposing similar attempts by the brutal dictatorship of the ruling IRI regime. The Persian Gulf occupies a pivotal place in Iranian history and culture.

    Iranians worldwide, as well as all people interested in preserving the integrity of historical and cultural records, are deeply affronted by this arrogant action of the Obama administration. Acquiescing to practices of this sort is tantamount to appeasement, which serves only to whet the appetite of aggressors and violators. Precedence may pave the way for a torrent of infringements on every aspect of every people’s cultural and historical heritage.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/obama_and_arab_imperialism.html

  34. JanH, one of the funnier commentaries (especially from a Clinton hater):

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/big_slade_steps_into_huge_void_and_WMu2TUs9xZ8yrKYuQxDqoJ

    He has the appetite of 100 men and so long as you are not easily shocked, he never disappoints.

    There is no setting or situation where he will not step in and take over completely. Almost always, he does it better and with masterful attention to detail.

    He always does it with more passion and gusto than anybody else has the energy to. He will outlast anyone in any feat.

    In the short time it took Clinton to wrest back control of the White House yesterday from his skinny successor, he had people swooning and panting for his return.

    One viewer said he was tempted to mute the TV and pretend it was 1997 and Clinton was still president and the economy was still wonderful.

    As Obama looked on and fidgeted, the master schooled the pupil on being presidential.

    He was open, easy, funny, confident. Never teachy, preachy, defensive or arrogant. Clinton had total command of the small details but never wandered from the high perch of the big picture. [snip]

    At one point, Obama looked at his watch as if to wonder, “How long can this guy go for?

    Then the “president” completely surrendered the stage to Big Jim Slade and left.

    As one observer noted, “Instead of leaving, Obama should have stuck around to see how it’s done.

  35. In the end, they brand Obama a progressive on the grounds that he is Democrat and an African-American. Here on full display is the political bankruptcy of the rejection of social class as the basic criterion in politics and its replacement by race and other forms of personal identity.
    (snip)

    What really upsets them about the crass manner in which Obama prostrates himself before the Republicans and Wall Street is how thoroughly it exposes their own role in promoting him and aiding the marketing campaign that was used to get him elected. They are terrified that their political dog and pony show built around Obama has so quickly and ignominiously collapsed.

    This only makes them wedded all the more firmly to Obama. They twist and turn and engage in all manner of sophistry and outright lying to try and convince the people that, despite everything, Obama can be made to “fight” and act on his “progressive” inclinations.
    —————————–
    The modern progressive movement is a convenient cover for the elites. It allows them to do a bait and switch. They substitute race struggle for class struggle. Trotskyites are not fooled and neither are we. Contrary to what the left and the right contend, this is not the progressivism of the early twentieth century, which sought to empower the working class. This new doctrine is intended to disenfranchise the American People and produce a have and have not society. This is why people like Dean, Kennedy, Rockerfeller and others are attracted to it. It is why the working class should realize they are being sold a bill of goods. The right answer for the country is Roosevelt values and the custodian of those are the Clintons. Obama is one of the elites, albeit a bumbling one.

  36. The phone call between Hillary and Bill after Bill’s White House presser must have been a doozy. We can hear Hillary and Bill laugh like Yeltsin and Bill.

  37. I had a dream last night. Dreamed Obama got a second term. Dreamed that the blacks gave him the nomination because he is black and the progressives lost their nerve because they did not want to be called racists. Dreamed the establishment republicans then gave him the general election because they could not find a better patsy than him in their own party.

  38. Bill is playing this magnificantly. There is no way the Dems can criticize his support of the President, yet the very fact that he has to be called in to do that means the Present resident of the WH has not learned in two years how to not only work with the Reps, but to work with his own Party.

    Again, their just was not much call for negotiations, building consensus, working with the opposing opinion when you are a Community Organizer, and you were on a fast track. Compare that to a women who fought for everything she got, where people constantly told her she should act like a traditional women, and that she only got jobs because of her husband. She could have rolled up in a ball, but instead she achieve one of the most impressive records in legislation that a Freshman Senator has EVER. She could have crawled into a hole after they stole the nomination from her. Instead, she is one of the most impressive, if not the most impressive Secretary of State’s we had ever had.

  39. Washington post columnist Colbert King emphatically disagrees.
    Here are some of his arguments.
    —————————————
    Basil, I do not see the things this character is saying as arguments. I see them more as threats, and a lot of bobbing and weaving going on. The economy is deteriorating, and the Reagan policies no longer work and neither do the Obama policies. The tea parties see this, and so do the American People. The problem is the elites, since they have a vested interest in perpetuating the status quo. When the Republicans cave in to this Obama and Pelosi, as I believe they will, many people wil question whether either party has the vision and the courage to solve the problems. Until we find some answer to that question we will remain in the doldrums with no wind to fill our sails.

  40. Saturday Night Live is dull as ever. The opening skit was “Obama” speaking from the Oval Office. The conceit was that Obama is now quoting Rush Limbaugh, happy only with the Bush tax cuts, mocking “San Francisco Nancy” and about to join Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly as part of the “Bold Fresh Tour”.
    —————————
    Poor Barack–

    Oh what tangled webs we weave
    When first we practice to deceive

  41. Dreamed the establishment republicans then gave him the general election because they could not find a better patsy than him in their own party.

    =================

    If things are still in such a mess by 2012, they might drop it on the Dems again. Since Obama is doing everything they want, he and the Dems might as well get the blame again.

  42. What would have been better? Being a fly on the wall when Bill and Hillary laughed about the Big Dawg’s press conference? Or when Michele discussed it with Barry?

  43. Tough question Hwc. As much fun as being a fly on the wall when Michelle heard the news would have been – can anyone witness that Medusa scowl and live to tell the tale? 🙂

  44. A Paris journalist, Ed Diamond, claims to have inside information from “an excellent source on the Nobel Prize Committee in Oslo.”

    “[Obama’s] based solely on his lofty utterances, not on any actual deeds.

    “Now, when we look for deeds, what do we find: America is still spending a trillion dollars a year building its military might and still has tens of thousands of troops and mercenaries deployed across Central Asia, not to mention clandestine and other forces involved in conflicts around the globe.

    “Also, let’s not forget how quickly Obama kowtowed to Israel’s Prime Minister Nethanyahu’s refusal to suspend construction of settlements on the West Bank. So much for an American brokered peace in the Middle East! ”

    Diamond is an investigative reporter based in Paris for Focus, an American TV magazine.

  45. There is a scene from Andy Warhol’s Bad where a crazed woman attacks her neighbor walking his dog and it’s how I picture the bambi/scowl face off when he arrived. I’d post the link but it would probably offend many.

  46. basil9
    December 11th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
    Has the world gone mad?

    Seems Canadian prime Minster Stephen Harper is also trying his hand at show biz.

    Jan! Oh Jan! What are Canadians saying about this?
    ______________
    This Canadian feels such a revulsion towards him that she can’t even watch him.

  47. Shadowfax
    December 11th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
    Has the world gone mad?

    Seems Canadian prime Minster Stephen Harpe

    ———-
    I loved it, their prime singing: “…I get high with a little help from my friends….” “…I just need somebody to love…”

    All we get is a lazy ass guy with a fat lip that won’t do his job.
    _____________

    I would love it if our guy would stop working as well. He scares me every time I think he may be working. He has led us far into deficit spending again, not to mention the billion dollars plus he spent on his weekend party with other world leaders. His fake lake alone cost at least $100 million. I’ll be glad to see the tail end of him and will happily let you have him if you really want him. But please don’t return him.

  48. How many times will Barry call the Big Dawg in for help, cozy/private lunches to pick his brain and still be shocked when Bill shows him up in front of the world for the slacker he really is.

    This isn’t Baracko’s first rodeo with the Clinton’s…so either he is really dense or……….he is in such trouble he doesn’t know what else to do.

  49. I like the report of O and Bill wandering through empty halls looking for some reporter to talk to. No chance for programming the Teleprompter.

    Wonder whose idea that was? I can imagine Obama having to trail along, not wanting Bill to go off by himself. 😉

  50. So glad you documented this, admin. Except for CBS which covered it well the first night, it’s been ignored on TV. I watched PBS and ABC; the exit tape is on the cutting room floor. Also, the story is over. Had it been either of the two top women in politics, it would have gone on at least through the Sunday talk shows. Remember how long the Hillary lied about Bosnia coverage ran?

  51. holdthemanaccountable
    Zero- zip- nada on local news. It is, however, understandable as it was their duty to make sure they covered a tailor accused of groping a customer four times in a 1 1/2 hour news block. Guess a sitting prez displaying his callous tempermant doesn’t qualify as a significant story.

  52. I haven’t heard a thing about Mother NAture doing her best revealing the Global Warming hoax either. Why is that?
    _______________________

    Record Cold at Cancun Climate Confab

    December 12, 2010

    As the United Nations opened its latest conference on global warming, Mother Nature sent snowstorms and freezing temperatures that disrupted travel all across Europe and much of the Northern Hemisphere.

    Even Cancun, Mexico’s sunny resort city that hosted the confab, was not spared the chill. The UN summit, known as COP16 (the 16th Conference of Parties on global warming), concluded Saturday morning after an all-night marathon session. Cancun may not have experienced blizzards and ice, but it did, nevertheless, get hammered with record low temps for the month of December.

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts, who runs the global warming skeptic blog “Watts Up With That?,” couldn’t resist rubbing it in. In a December 10 posting, entitled “Gore Effect” on Steroids: Six straight days of record low temperatures during COP16 in Cancun Mexico — more coming, Watts wrote:

    The irony, it burns. Do you think maybe Gaia is trying to send the U.N. and the delegates a message? One record low was funny, three in a row was hilarious, a new record low for the month of December was ROFL [Rolling On Floor Laughing], but now six straight days of record lows during the U.N. COP16 Global Warming conference? That’s galactically inconvenient. The whole month so far has averaged below normal…

    How cold did it get? Temps were in the low 50s (Fahrenheit), for the most part, so no one got frostbite. Not bone-chilling, but also not the bikini temperatures and margaritas-on-the-beach experience most snowbirds are expecting when they ditch frigid Oslo, London, and Kalamazoo for Mexico’s fabled sunny clime. Watts shows the official low temperatures for the past six days of the conference (December 5-10) and then matches them with the recorded historic lows for the same dates. The conference dates either tied the record lows or were lower by 4 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit.

    “It is likely we will see a full week, possibly 8 days of record lows, and another new all time record low for the month of December is possible also,” says Anthony Watts.

    This recent cold wave in Cancun has already added to the lore of the “Gore Effect,” which is defined in the Urban Dictionary as:

    The phenomenon that leads to unseasonably cold temperatures, driving rain, hail, or snow whenever Al Gore visits an area to discuss global warming.

    Poor Al Gore. He doesn’t even have to show up at a global warming event anymore for record cold — often accompanied by paralyzing blizzards — to dampen, or even cancel, the event. The following are a few of the many links to stories from around the world about the Gore Effect provided by Marc Morano at the Climate Depot blog site:

    Melbourne temperatures plummet in anticipation of Al Gore’s visit next week!

    First October snow since 1922 blankets London as global warming bill debated – October 2008

    ‘Gore Effect’: Driving snow froze the hopes of organizers of “the biggest global warming protest in history” in Washington

    The Gore Effect brings snow to New York City

    Al “Mr. Global Warming” Gore didn’t show up in Cancun. Perhaps that was by design, since his appearance at last year’s Copenhagen summit coincided with the arrival of record cold temperatures and snow storms that forced U.S. House Speaker and her congressional delegation to leave Denmark early — to avoid being snowed in. Even many members of the huge press pool at the Copenhagen summit, almost all of whom were solidly in Al Gore’s AGW (anthropogenic global warming) camp, couldn’t resist joking about the phenomenon. As I watched the first snow flakes begin to fall last December at Copenhagen’s Bella Center, a reporter for Britain’s left-wing Guardian commented: “Here comes the snow; Gore’s plane must have landed.” Similar comments, though considered politically incorrect (if not outright heresy) among the green true believers, were not uncommon in the media center.

    Our own video for The New American from the COP15 conference, Gore Effect Impacts Copenhagen Climate provides a glimpse of the deep freeze that Gore’s visit was credited with bringing to the event.

    As delegates and NGO activists at Cancun insisted that the planet is overheating, millions of people were being deluged with snow and shivering in some of the coldest weather in a century. An extended headline for the U.K.’s Daily Mail on December 9 read:

    Now the Army moves in to clear away snow in coldest December for 100 years as fuel runs out at petrol stations in Scotland and East Anglia

    British columnist/blogger James Delingpole at The Telegraph aimed this satirical barrage at the global warming alarmists in Cancun — and in the media:

    As your boiler breaks down, your pipes freeze, your car won’t start, your Ocado delivery fails to arrive, your train is cancelled, your neck is broken after slipping on black ice and you lie in an emergency ward waiting for a doctor to turn up only to learn that they’re all off today because of the weather, you might be forgiven for thinking that all this has something to do with global cooling, changes in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, and the decline in sunspot activity perhaps auguring a new Maunder minimum.

    But, of course, you would be wrong, says Delingpole, in his acerbic parody; the “experts” will assure us that all this freezing mayhem is the result of global warming.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/north-america-mainmenu-36/5480-record-cold-struck-cancun-climate-confab

  53. Despite Defeat, Obama’s Organizing for America Set to Re-Push DREAM Act and ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’

    Do you think passing the DREAM Act and repealing
    ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ is dead?

    Well, if so, think again. Obama’s Organizing for America (OFA) has swung into damage control to ostensibly boast President Obama’s dwindling support while placating the President’s increasingly furious and disenchanted liberal base.

    Today, Organizing for America is set to revive and push the DREAM Act and ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ — again. Yes it is true. Despite last week’s Senate rejection of the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and Senate Democrats shelving the DREAM Act which would have legalized hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants brought to America as children, Obama’s Organizing for America is organizing another phone bank to demand their passage.

    “Let’s Give them A Lame Duck Session They Won’t Forget! (OFA Phone Bank)”

    http://www.marinkapeschmann.com/

  54. Mrs. Smith – I’m afraid DREAM is coming no matter what they have to do to get it there. Just like healthcare.
    ———————————-
    Not Your Sweetie gave the first tip-off to this gem. Tried to get to original article, but after two more blogs, I stopped my quest with this article:

    Saudi media fall for Obama Muslim joke
    When a US satirist joked that President Barack Obama will admit to Congress that he is Muslim in his latest compromise with Republicans, Saudi media took it seriously….
    http://news.za.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=155490341

    Too funny.

  55. I watched the press conference live and it was great. Clinton looked more presidential and the reporters looked absolutely enraptured and engaged.

    My only problem is digesting CLinton’s “support” of the deal. He did refer to ..Obama made the best deal he could….which may be too subtle for many. However, both Clintons are going to be on record for supporting many of this administrations policies….like Obamacare…and I’m not sure they can run away from all that later.

  56. andyp
    December 12th, 2010 at 3:12 am

    This Canadian feels such a revulsion towards him that she can’t even watch him.
    _______________________

    Democrats are stumped by Obama’s behavior, as well they should be. He ran as a Democrat espousing core democratic principles but has nothing to show for it after two years resembling his lofty, uplifting speeches given during the campaign.

    Why is that?

    In spite of the angry furor of his base feeling betrayed and his staff and cabinet members deserting their WH posts in record numbers, he not only continues on- but is changing horses, placating Republicans, in full view of his supporters.

    Why is that?

    Perhaps, we are not substantively aware Obama has other ideas of what the American Dream SHOULD BE and the blueprint he is following is not public enough for us to read and understand.

    Why is that?

    I stumbled upon this document at the Center for American Progress website (the irony of it is nauseating) another one of the Hungarian born, George Soros’ non-profit brain-child(ren). In it you will see the 30 Executive Orders (authored and approved by Soros ) proffered under Obama’s name. Some EO’s have already been signed into the Register as others you will recognize are currently in discussion. Specifically, the DADT and the Dream Act.

    When you have a free moment, I suggest reading the lengthy document as the breath of it will eventually resonate with you; Obama ain’t no Democrat or Republican. He is an “opportunist” using the seat of power by virtue of Executive Order ramming through a ‘Soros authored blueprint to usurp our democratic way of life.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

  57. Organizing for America

    A misprint obviously

    The Descriptive Title is Organizing AGAINST American

    And they accept massive foreign donations from countries who are, how shall I put it, not favorably disposed to the interests of this nation.

    But big media is always receptive and supportive of their message because they share the same objective.

    Case in point: the recent decision by ABC executives to ban its employees, including reporters, from wearing American flag lapel pins, on the ludicrous justification that they want to be objective. Their track record from 2008 proves to a fare thee well that objectivity is not something they are interested in. Ergo the explanation must lie elsewhere.

  58. Carol
    December 12th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Yes. Watching Bill up there just felt like a sense of relief like an adult was back in charge with no bashing of America and Americans, and then the reality hit once Bill was done.
    I absolutely disagreed with his comment about fighting for Deathcare, I could not disagree more with Bill on that one, and yes with he and Hillary openly endorsing it, they will not be able to get away from that endorsement.

  59. holdthemaccountable
    December 12th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Mrs. Smith – I’m afraid DREAM is coming no matter what they have to do to get it there. Just like healthcare.
    ______________________

    The HCR Act was put through by Nancy Pelosi not Obama. Do you think she has any incentive to be as driven to get this bill though the House? If anything, she may be the Wild Card that has wonderfully turned into a thorn in Obama’s side.

    “Hell hath NO FURY like a woman scorned.”

  60. tim-

    Bill’s view of Obama is he sees him digging himself into a hole. All Bill does is hand him a bigger shovel helping him clear away the dirt to go deeper.

  61. Obama made the best deal he could
    ————————————
    That statement is why Obama wanted the joint appearance. Politically speaking I am not sure it makes much difference. The hard left has already made up their mind about Bill, as evidenced by their unprincipled attacks on Hillary. I doubt that Bill is trying to troll for their support.

    I think the country as a whole supports this deal because it believes it may help create jobs, which is the single biggest problem facing this country, the one that could mutate our system of government beyond anything we are talking about now. The one thing this whole mess has done is demonstrate the fallibility of economists, both Keynseians, monetarists and supply siders. This deal represents a supply side solution, as I understand its terms.

    The downside of that deal is it is a throw back to Reaganomics, which is to say that it increases the debt and the wealth disparity in this country, and those concerns are not laid to rest by bromides like we must reject class warfare. Whet they really mean is we must close our eyes and pretend it is not happening. And we must pretend that the real culprit here is race struggle, when really it is class struggle. But in the hands of skillful and not so skillful demogogues, it can become the diversion which protects the elites and prevents us from dealing with the real problem. It gets back to The Gospel of Wealth. Instead of helping society the billionaires like Soros, Peter Lewis, Wolfe and their ilk like to play god and move the chess pieces on the board. Their effort to do precisely that in the former soviet republics are so instructive of what they are attempting to do here, that it is a shame that the public is not more aware of them.

    You are starting to hear people say that 2012 will be the most pivotal election in a century. It will usher in a new re-alignment of coalitions within our political system. My sense is that may not occur until 2016, but given the changing demographics, and the increasing wealth disparity the stage is set. Only the timing remains in doubt. If what we are seeing here is a return to Reaganomics, I think that is short sighted for the reasons stated. By the same token, the progresssive formula has proven ineffectual. This is the golden moment for Hillary to emerge. There are answers in both economic camps, but first we must find a consensus. Barack Obama is not that leader and neither is Romney.

  62. Bill’s view of Obama is he sees him digging himself into a hole. All Bill does is hand him a bigger shovel helping him clear away the dirt to go deeper.
    —————————–
    I agree Mrs. Smith. He is the best chess player I have ever seen. And the best politician. When we have assets like Bill and Hillary, it is a tragedy that we do not make fuller use of them. Particularly at times like this. The fault for that lies with the media. They have no ability to judge merit. All they ever dwell on is chinks in the armor, and every human being has those. They were sycophants for Bush and then they were sycophants for Obama, will they ever get it right? They would be better of renting a chimpanzee to flip a coin, than relying on their own flawed judgment.

  63. Do you think she has any incentive to be as driven to get this bill though the House?
    ————————–
    Good point, but I do not trust any congressional Democrat right now; this is their last (foreseeable) chance cafe. Plus I think both parties want immigration reform. If DREAM gets in, all of the rest will come.

    A relative of mine has a small business; swears by illegal and under the table. Asks me if I realize how much is saved. Basically a very decent person, but money trumps all else. I suspect it is that way for most who support ‘reform’. Morality be damned.

    If all money were to properly be declared for tax, would there not be plenty of money in the here and now to run all levels of government, including SS, and all other ‘problems’ ?

  64. andyp,

    I am not a Harper fan, but if it is between Ignatieff and Harper, I will take Harper any day.

    Ignatieff scares the daylights out of me.

  65. Mrs. Smith
    December 12th, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Maybe so, or not. I know its a chess game, but I guess I am not that much of a chess player, I know how horrible that disgusting deathcare bill is, and I heard is Bill endorsing it, he said that there were 4 to 5 items he can say to improve it, the bill itself is bad, really bad, and BC saying saying he endorses it made me extremely disappointed and annoyed, he had the podium, he could said the opposite and yet he didn’t.

    Oh, I respect BC, don’t regret voting for him both times, but I was a pretty conservative democrat until 2008, I don’t trust this expansivness of govt, I see my small business that I spent all these years building up perhaps going bankcrupt within a few years, smaller businesses don’t have compliance lawyers, etc to comply with all the crap with these detrimental regulations and requirements; small businesses don’t have the resources to opt-out and get a waiver, they have to suffer under it. I strongly disagreed with BC on his endoring that disgusting deathcare bill.
    If DC bob hadn’t stopped the conference, maybe BC could have explained why he endorses it, but so far I haven’t heard anything and I have read thru a good chunk of that bill, and it is a disgusting detrimental bill.

  66. Fri, Dec. 10, 2010

    Poll: Obama’s approval ratings fall to new low

    By STEVEN THOMMA
    McClatchy Newspapers

    President Barack Obama’s approval ratings have sunk to the lowest level of his presidency, so low that he’d lose the White House to Republican Mitt Romney if the election were held today, according to a new McClatchy Newspapers-Marist poll.
    The biggest reason for Obama’s fall: a sharp drop in approval among Democrats and liberals, apparently unhappy with his moves toward the center since he led the party to landslide losses in November’s midterm elections. At the same time, he’s gained nothing among independents.

    “He’s having the worst of both worlds right now,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the national survey.

    “As he moves to the center, he’s not picking up support among independents and he’s having some fall-off among his base. If his strategy is to gain independents and keep the Democrats in tow, it isn’t working so far.”

    The poll was taken from Dec. 2 through Wednesday, as the president proposed a two-year freeze on federal civilian workers’ pay and cut a deal with congressional Republicans to extend expiring tax cuts – even those for the wealthy, which he’d opposed.

    Overall, just 42 percent of registered voters approve of how he’s doing his job, while 50 percent disapprove.

    Obama’s standing among Democrats dropped from a month ago, with his approval rating falling to 74 percent from 83 percent, and his disapproval rating rising from 11 percent to 21 percent.

    Among liberals, his approval rating dropped from 78 percent to 69 percent and his disapproval rating jumped from 14 percent to 22 percent.

    His position among independents remained virtually the same, with 39 percent approving and 52 percent disapproving. A month ago, it was 38-54.

    The president’s continued failure to rally independents could ruin his bid for re-election. A hypothetical 2012 matchup showed him getting the support of 44 percent of registered voters and Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, getting 46 percent.

    Obama now is running slightly ahead of Republican former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, drawing 47 percent to Huckabee’s 43 percent.

    Both results were within the poll’s margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.

    He would easily defeat Republican former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, however; he’d get 52 percent of registered voters and she’d get 40 percent, if the election were held today.

    The key in each matchup is independents.

    Romney had the best advantage over the president among independents, preferred by 47-39 percent. Independents break for Obama over Huckabee by 42-40 percent. Palin fares much worse among independents. They favor the president over her by 52-35 percent.

    “In head-to-head matchups, it’s the independents who seem to be shaping the early discussion,” Miringoff said. “We have a lot of polarization. And the middle is in its classic position of being the swing vote.”

    There was one sign that Obama’s effort to “triangulate” by centering himself against both parties on the tax cuts issue may work; he ripped Republicans for favoring the rich and the Democrats for criticizing his deal to go along.

    The poll found that voters are inclined to blame congressional Democrats and Republicans more than the president if the deal to extend tax reductions falls apart and taxes go up on Jan. 1.

    On issues, registered voters lean in another direction, with 47 percent saying the top priority for the new Congress should be to cut the federal budget deficit and 22 percent saying it should be to cut taxes. Another 28 percent said that maintaining services and benefits should be the top priority.

    They also think the people at WikiLeaks who revealed classified U.S. cables should be prosecuted rather than protected by the First Amendment, by 59-31 percent.

    METHODOLOGY

    This survey of 1,029 adults was conducted Dec. 2-8. People 18 and older residing in the continental United States were interviewed by telephone. Telephone numbers were selected based on a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its population. To increase coverage, this land-line sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of cell phone numbers. The two samples that were combined. Results are statistically significant within 3.0 percentage points. There were 873 registered voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant within 3.5 percentage points. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/10/1967883/poll-obamas-approval-ratings-fall.html

  67. “gain independents ”

    I don’t know any independents who will support him; even those that been snookered into voting for waffles in 2008.

  68. The Ghost of Presidents Past – Clinton’s Unexpected Sub for Obama is Telling

    Sunday, December 12, 2010
    by Dennis Maley

    Watching President Obama yield the lectern to former President Clinton last Thursday was both odd and telling. The move, clearly an effort to sell wary Democrats on President Obama’s tax compromise, may have sounded good at the tail end of a 3 a.m. staff meeting. But in practice, it played like a Hail Mary pass designed to spin the widespread public perception that the President recently caved on tax negotiations with the GOP.

    I can see how bringing out the still-popular ex-president to sell a pragmatic pivot to the center, a move one could easily imagine President Clinton having made himself, would have come up in a strategy session. But the fact that it actually happened genuinely surprises me. For starters, President Obama is continuously criticized (sometimes unfairly) for a complete lack of experience. Reagan never handed the keys to Nixon, nor Clinton to Carter, and even W. never brought Daddy in to close out the show.

    What may have been less foreseen by President Obama’s team, however, was the stark contrast in what the military calls command presence. Seeing President Clinton in front of the microphone, deftly parrying the tough questions of the White House Press Corps, I couldn’t help but wish that the former Arkansas governor was doing more than consulting in these harrowing economical times.

    When President Obama kind of awkwardly excused himself, the press corps’ immediate shift in tone spoke volumes in terms of what those closest to the action really wish to know – why is this guy so afraid of Republicans who are going to do what they are going to do regardless of his policies – namely, work hard to get him voted out of office.

    For his part, Clinton worked the room like a pro, and if he didn’t completely sell the President’s deal, he at least convinced those listening that he himself genuinely supported it. Obama, who had left for a Christmas party when the press conference finally ended, probably still didn’t gain any ground in the court of public opinion. Presidents are leaders and Commanders in Chief. Once in the oval office, as President Truman noted, the buck must stop with them.

    Living former presidents are a rare resource and there is wisdom in employing them, but President Obama should think long and hard before ever again considering yielding a stage to the last American President to rule over an era of peace and prosperity. Nostalgia is a double edge sword and as such, reminding people of the good old days is the sole domain of those out of power – not in.

    http://www.thebradentontimes.com/news/2010/12/12/national_government/the_ghost_of_presidents_past_clinton_s_unexpected_sub_for_obama_is_telling/

  69. I believe Bambi asked Bill what to do at this point, and Bill told him make the deal for the good of the economy, and I will give you political cover. Then he told Obama after you have made the deal, and taken the heat, call a meeting of the chief executive officers of major companies who have parked three trillion dollars on the sidelines, and tell them I have stuck my own neck out politically for the country as you can see. Now it is your turn. We need jobs.

    If that is a reasonable approximation of what Bill told Obama, and I am just guessing, but assuming it is then Obama has already fucked up the game plan by walking out on the press conference. That undermines the message he was supposed to deliver, because it shows weakness in the face of attacks from his own base. If I were a ceo I would look at that as a sign of weakness, and wonder how far I could trust this man myself, in the face of continued political fire. Is it safe to put my company at risk while he is president. I would have serious doubts.

  70. wbboei
    December 12th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Absolutley nailed it with this post. Not just CEOs but all small business owners who do not have the luxery of resources that big companies have.

    “If I were a ceo I would look at that as a sign of weakness, and wonder how far I could trust this man myself, in the face of continued political fire. Is it safe to put my company at risk while he is president. I would have serious doubts.”

  71. wbboei:

    I agree Mrs. Smith. He is the best chess player I have ever seen. And the best politician. When we have assets like Bill and Hillary, it is a tragedy that we do not make fuller use of them.
    ___________________________

    It all depends how you view the glass half filled with water. For the time being, they both are maximizing their exposure to the degree appropriate for their positions on the political landscape. We are fortunate they even care about the state of the country, never mind sticking their necks out risking all to do what they can minimizing the damage done by Obama’s directives which he peddles as seemingly a banal philosophy of instrumentalism

  72. My read is the was given a good game plan, but lacks the courage, the stomach and the audacity to execute it. As a result, whatever success we see in jump starting the economy will not be sustainable. He needs to tell those executives need to start creating jobs in this country rather than overseas as they have been doing under republican administrations and have continued to do under Obama up to this point.

  73. I might also add, business owners trusted and trust bill, just as they trusted George Bush, they do not and will not trust the current fool in the WH.

    This tax deal will not expand the economy, it will only stop it from shrinking… however with an influx of new unemployed, students, etc, the economy will continue to shrink. The economy is not a static entity. Who in their right minds will make long term investments, i.e. hiring people, when just in 18 months, the business bashing and racist-name calling will begin again for the ’12 elections by Waffles.

  74. He needs to tell those executives need to start creating jobs in this country rather than overseas as they have been doing under republican administrations and have continued to do under Obama up to this point.
    _____________________

    If you read the pdf from American for Progress website.There is a blueprint for jobs in the works as designed by our friend George Soros.

  75. Absolutley nailed it with this post. Not just CEOs but all small business owners who do not have the luxery of resources that big companies have.
    ————————
    Agreed. There is no way he can sell himself to small business. There is nothing in his background to indicate that he understands their problems, cares about them, or is not willing to tax and regulate them out of existence. In his salad days. he claimed that he was an economist along with other specialities and subspecialities that one acquires by osmosis just by breathing the air at Harvard. But in his economic treatise on economics which reads like the world according to Garp there is a missing chapter on small business. Rumor has it that his ghost writer, who is of course dearly beloved Bill Ayers, son of bank president (SOB for short), bomb maker and expert on child education, aka indoctrination is still working on that chapter and has developed an acute case of writers block for good reason.

  76. tim,
    If we go back and listen closely, Bill said this tax bill will carry us over. He did not as far as I can remember say it was going to fix everything. He always words everything carefully.

    I don’t think this bill is going to fix anything except give the repubs..more money.

    Mrs.Smith,

    Why is George Soros giving blueprints for jobs…WTF…he’s done more to screw us out of jobs than just about anyone!

  77. Obama is following a preordained blueprint and will not deviate from it not one iota. Thinking he lacks the courage and the stomach and the audacity to execute something worthy of a US President is a false premise to rely on. His allegiance is to Soros and the elites. A puppet doesn’t own a stomach or courage or a brain to do otherwise. Not when he has contracted with an entity that has placed him in a position of power as CEO of a country to implement his agenda.

  78. Thinking he lacks the courage and the stomach and the audacity to execute something worthy of a US President is a false premise to rely on.

    RIGHT.

    His allegiance is to Soros and the elites.

    ==============

    WELL, to his big donors anyway.

  79. Looks like they are talking about Wikileaks changing its name to Openleaks and leaking more information tomorrow…it sure has been worrying the republicans.

    I don’t know if you’ve seen the Wikileaks Wallpaper…its been inspiring lots of conversations on the internet.

  80. confloyd:

    Mrs.Smith,

    Why is George Soros giving blueprints for jobs…WTF…he’s done more to screw us out of jobs than just about anyone!
    _______________

    If you take a few minutes to read the highly recommended pdf written by Satan himself, it will help us track the MF and perhaps preempt his plans further on down the line.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

    I would think finding this nugget, getting it published, especially here, where we have the opportunity to see into the soul of the maggot eroding our democracy, one Executive Order at a time… is an insight only the egotistical would forgo for self serving reasons.

  81. confloyd:

    I remember you mentioned one time, you thought your phone and computer were being monitered by someone.

    For some reason, I checked my computer’s programs and saw someone had added a ‘remote viewer’s program’ to my computer specifically checking for recalls written on notepad and bookmarks.

    Anyway, check your computer and have the phone checked by someone knowledgeable about those things.

  82. Mrs. Smith,
    Thanks for telling me that…my messenger keeps telling me that I am signed on another computer and I’m not. So something is up. I also remember talking to you on the phone…and I distinctly heard a voice laughing. Well I called Windstream and told them but I never heard back from them. They said they’d check it out and sounded very serious.

    I’ve been thinking that I am being monitored for some reason. Probably because I blogged that I was an East Texas Redneck…LOL! I am the least likely person in the world to do anything illegal because I worked for the prison system…no way I want to live there…LOL!

  83. JanH
    December 12th, 2010 at 11:12 am
    The Ghost of Presidents Past – Clinton’s Unexpected Sub for Obama is Telling
    ____________________

    Bill was thrilled to demonstrate once again- Obama, no matter his full throated reading skills is not and never will be what we consider presidential timber. Not the president we were accustomed to listening to, the most brilliant president of modern times, Bill Clinton.

    The smiles and happiness of the press corp was evident throughout Bill’s brief explanation of supporting Obama’s Tax-Cut bill. They just couldn’t get enough of the Big Dawg’s prowess at drawing on statistics from thin air and quotes from former presidential speeches. To them it was an orgasmic moment they won’t soon forget.

    Obama handing Bill the microphone and podium at a time when the bill in question is one of great consternation to his supporters. Seeing another one of Obama’s promises expiring Tax Cuts for the Rich reversed- The self-inflicted damage done by Obama’s to his credibility is more than we could have hoped for…

    To be a fly on the wall when MO discovered BO had left BC at the podium substituting for himself… had to be hilarious. When we know for sure, not putting a sick of butter away in it’s proper place carries a heavy penalty, known as a neverending tirade, for the offender in the Obama household, particularly if it is Barack himself.

  84. Carol
    December 12th, 2010 at 10:13 am
    ===========================

    I’m not too sure about that either. If people like myself, and I consider myself a Clinton supporter, are uneasy about Clinton support for Øbama policies, then my assumption is that there are many more like me who are somewhat disappointed, and who could move away from them. At this point, I am giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt that they are doing what’s right for the country. But if I ever get the sense or feeling that what they are doing is absolutely wrong, then I don’t know if I could ever have the feelings of goodwill toward them that I have had in the past. Øbama has the potential of destroying these two decent Democrats with him. I hope not, but his tainting of the Democratic party leaves no one untouched in my opinion.

  85. Mrs. Smith
    December 12th, 2010 at 8:56 am
    =====================

    Ha! As they say, it’s not nice to fool with mother nature! Global warming is a hoax. If the argument was to diminish pollution, then that’s a different story because it is shown that pollutants affect people’s health. But this argument is about the warming of the earth being caused by pollutants, and that is something to be rightly skeptical about.

  86. How many times will Barry call the Big Dawg in for help, cozy/private lunches to pick his brain and still be shocked when Bill shows him up in front of the world for the slacker he really is.

    I know. It’s like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown to kick and pulling it away at the last second, time and time after time…

    Hillary and Bill must laugh their asses off at the boob.

  87. nomobama
    December 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    ________________

    The post you are referring to at 8:56am had been in moderation- I almost forgot to check back to see if spammy released it. Must have been a trigger word i.e. Gore or Climate change preventing it from publishing…

    Imagine spending all that money for a vacation in Cancun and having to wear a sweater to stave off the chill. Laughable…

    I can believe the climate IS changing where the colder weather is moving in a southerly direction. Perhaps in our lifetime, the new location for Arctic weather may be seeing Polar Bears in Fla. 😉

  88. http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2010/12/12/the-unmaking-of-the-president/

    Pejman Yousefzadeh spots Bill Clinton at the presidential podium on Friday and waxing nostalgic for the seemingly carefree days of the mid-1990s: “Don’t Stop Thinking About . . . Yesterday?”

    OK, let’s do just that, because with Bill’s return to center stage, we can now place the 2008 campaign and the first year of the Obama presidency into a certain amount of perspective.

    Then: Obama’s speeches “enmesh you in a grander moment, as if history has stopped flowing passively by, and, just for an instant, contracted around you, made you aware of its presence, and your role in it. ”

    NOW: Obama’s problem: Not enough “theatrics,” Eleanor Clift of Newsweek claims.

    Rock star momentum is tough to recapture when the Zeitgeist passes you by.

    Then: Bill and Hillary and even the Democratic voters who supported them are smeared as racists by fellow Democrats because they’re not the Messiah.

    NOW: Obama told to F** Off by his fellow Democrats — “Help Me Bubba-Wan, You’re My Only Hope.

    Then: Obama’s “WhiteHouse.gov Plays Media Critic: Calls Krauthammer’s Washington Post Column ‘Wholly Inaccurate.’”

    NOW: “During his impromptu press conference in the White House briefing room Friday, former President Bill Clinton favorably referred to comments Charles Krauthammer made at the Washington Post earlier in the day.”

    Then: Joe Biden seen as example of Seinfeldian opposite theory, akin to George Costanza in the New York Yankees’ front office, a comparatively plodding backbencher tapped to join a political juggernaut.

    NOW: Joe Biden seen as example of Seinfeldian opposite theory, the comparatively grown-up voice of sanity and reason in an otherwise hapless trainwreck of an administration.

    Then: “We Are All Socialists Now,Newsweek declares, as Obama takes office.

    NOW: What are you, trapped in 1935? The New Republic finally replies.

    Then: Faced with global financial crisis, John McCain puts his campaign on hold, never recovers momentum.

    NOW: Faced with personal existential crisis, Barack Obama puts his presidency on hold, never…

    …Well, we’ll know soon enough how this one works out.

    Then: Former Air America hostess Randi Rhodes disgustingly refers to Hillary as a “big f***ing whore.”

    NOW: Bill Clinton remains one serious media whore, as Pejman writes:

    I don’t imagine that Bill Clinton would shed a lot of tears in the event that Barack Obama lost in 2012, except, perhaps, to the extent that such a loss might prematurely end his wife’s own public service career. But that’s no excuse for engaging in a public relations exercise with the ostensible motive of helping President Obama on Capitol Hill, but which (and let’s not pretend that Bill Clinton didn’t know this) had the effect of making Bill Clinton look titanic, and made Barack Obama look small. When the two of them shared the same stage, it was easy to forget that President Obama was even there, as Bill Clinton held forth. A former President ought not to make a successor look so bad in public, especially when that successor is of the former President’s own party.

    Payback is a Hillary, Barry.

    Speaking of which:

    Then: Obama K.O.s Hillary during December 2007 debate:

    The atmosphere tensed up briefly when Obama was asked what new foreign policies he could offer with a staff of so many ex-Clinton advisers.

    Read the exchange from AP:

    Hillary Clinton laughed out loud, and said with a smile on her face, “I’m looking forward to hearing that.”

    Obama, also smiling, waited for the laughter to die down before saying, “Hillary, I’m looking forward to you advising me as well.”

    NOW: “Obama Names Bill Clinton to Presidential Post,” as life finally catches up with a remarkably prescient Iowahawk.

  89. “Hillary and Bill must laugh their asses off at the boob.”
    _______________

    I agree- as tired as Hillary might have been from her arduous schedule; I bet they did have a good laugh. Circumstances placing Bill on the podium at just the right time with hopefully, a clink of the glasses in a champagne toast.

    Christmas Party vs National Economic issues?

    incredible-

  90. I believe Pajamamedia is a more conservative site. I disagree with:

    “except, perhaps, to the extent that such a loss might prematurely end his wife’s own public service career.”

    No. If Waffles wins again in ’12, it will be the end of Hillary being able to be president. The best shot Hillary has is for Waffles to lose in ’12 and then Hillary can run in ’16, for all those idiots that say she will be “too old”, 60’s is the new 30’s!

    Me? I am not voting for Waffles under any circumstance in ’12, I don’t care if Hillary agrees to be VP to bail his skinny self, nope, not happening. No to Waffles in any circumstance in ’12

  91. Obama, also smiling, waited for the laughter to die down before saying, “Hillary, I’m looking forward to you advising me as well.”
    ——————————

    You know this all fits in perfectly now (hindsight is 20/20 and all that..). For a guy who can not think on his feet, he came up with these and may be one or two more memorable lines. This line in particular is pretty good but for a guy who is incapable of thinking on the fly, he could make this comment ONLY if he had the surety of becoming the nominee which later happened and now we know how.

  92. admin
    December 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Great article, admin- thanks for posting it. And I forgot to mention, your latest post was priceless describing the bumbling boobmaster’s ineptitude for knowing what it expected of the job from a US President. At the very least, be present…

  93. Mrs. SMith
    I certainly hope Polar Bears will be not moving to FLorida. It’s cold as hell here today, we’re not used to it. We are trying to get my kitchen cabinets in and we’ve got the whole kitchen tore apart and now its too cold to be outside and cut the boards….I thought it was supposed to be warm this weekend….just my luck!

  94. Obama, also smiling, waited for the laughter to die down before saying, “Hillary, I’m looking forward to you advising me as well.
    ————————-
    This is why big media always threw the tough debate questions to her first, i.e. to give him time to think and then say I agree with Hillary and add something irrelevant to thrill the stupid, or let him him filibuster and then tell us how by virtue of their peter meter he won the debate. It was such a fucking farce. Candidates should never again agree to let these dishonest brokers control the process like they did, and bamboozle the public. They need to limit the debates to just three which would leave outfits like NBC more time to show re runs of To Catch A Predator–which is their other obsession I wonder why.

  95. Carol
    However, both Clintons are going to be on record for supporting many of this administrations policies….like Obamacare…and I’m not sure they can run away from all that later.
    ———
    I don’t think the Clinton’s have to worry about running away from either of the policies you mention.
    First, saying this is the best deal Barry can take is not saying it is a good policy, Bill even mentions he is against the tax breaks for the mega rich, but it’s also saying that given all the F’ups of this administration, at this point in time, with the clock running out and the Rethugs majority about due…this is probably the best deal Barry can get now.

    As far as the hell care bill, my guess is that if Hillary were President, she could push to change the bill, tossing out the crap and fixing it without the Rethugs taking it completely away. Bill probably realizes that passing a single payer health care plan (Hillary’s) if this one is tossed out, would take another Supermajority and the O’administration has already ruined that possibility in the future by doing it in such a corrupt way, against the majority of voters, back room deals, pork, exemptions, etc.

  96. 60’s is the new 30’s!
    ————————
    In the current job market it is the reverse. Headhunters will tell you that 40 is the new 50. Maybe between now and 2016 people will wise up. But I am skeptical. The whole thrust of this culture is toward youth. I doubt politics is an exception. Oh sure you can point to fossils like Robert Byrd who occupied a senate seat well into his dotage–Strom Thurmond, Claude Pepper and others. Seniority and the advantages of incumbency account for that phenomenon however. As the baby boomers die off and their ranks are thinned by illegal immigration, I suspect different younger and different people are chosen. As a general rule people tend to elect people who are like them, and generational differences are salient.

  97. confloyd
    December 12th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    I know- it’s tough Tamales when you are used to the warmth. Our blood is thicker in the North. When it’s 40-50 degrees here, we are throwing off our coats walking around in T-shirts enjoying the heat wave.. 🙂
    ________________

    Bring the boards in and cut them in the kitchen- no?

  98. confloyd

    Mrs. SMith
    I certainly hope Polar Bears will be not moving to FLorida. It’s cold as hell here today, we’re not used to it. We are trying to get my kitchen cabinets in and we’ve got the whole kitchen tore apart and now its too cold to be outside and cut the boards….I thought it was supposed to be warm this weekend….just my luck!
    ———–

    I had to chuckle when I read this post and Mrs. S’s reply. I am a woman that loves the tropics and beaches too, and after living in Hawaii and now CA, I see we all complain when the weather isn’t perfect. In Hawaii, folks all get up in arms when they have to dig a sweater out of their closet, in CA…we complain if it rains for more than two days, if our hair gets wacky, if the wind blows too hard, and if the sun doesn’t come out to recharge our bodies every day. 😉

  99. wbboei
    December 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    ——————
    Like my friend Turndown ( 😉 ) said without the teleprompter prep, there was no way Obama could have stayed standing next to Clinton and answered if the press called on him. There was no way he could get away with saying ‘what he(Clinton) said’ which is why he ran away.

  100. pm317 – one of the articles in admin’s 1:12 post pointed out something I hadn’t caught. You know in the presser when O leans in looking at his watch, saying he’s been keeping the tall frowny lady waiting? Apparently a reporter had asked a question for O to address, and when he leaned in they thought he was going to answer it, but THAT was the moment he made his getaway. So, more support for the theory that a big reason he had to leave was to avoid sputtering out an uh-uh-uh response in the presence of Bill’s answers based on depth of knowledge…

  101. lorac, I watched the video again. The reporter asked Clinton what advice he gave Obama and Clinton said he won’t say anything but Obama can choose to share what he wants and you hear the reporter ask Obama ‘what do you think?’ which is when he bolts. In this video you see Gibbsy getting up to leave and follow him but stops, may be because you see a camera guy run after Obama.

    Here it is:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYNBwURgnW8

  102. Lame stream media is not doing its job. So send the bambi wimp moment to everyone on your address book and then send it to your senator. I told bob casey I say no to dream act. Relish the opportunity that if je voted for ot I w3ill follow hi every vote and get him out of office.

  103. It just took me a half of an hour to be able to express to my senator how I would like him to vote on various issues.

    Step one I use a search engine to find Casey PA senate

    No problem, Comes up asap. Well I as a constituent want to express my feelings about the deam act and DADT.
    I get the home page.
    I click on contact and I get a list of things I can contact him about
    these are my options
    * Casework or Assistance with a Federal Agency
    * Invitations or Meeting Requests
    * Flag Requests
    * Tours in Washington, DC
    * Internships
    * Nomination to the Military Academies
    * Letters of Greetings or Acknowledgement

    What the fuck? I am going out of my way to tell my elected official how I feel and there is nothing that lets me express my position.

    Plwase go to Bob Casey’s wrb site and attempt to express an opinion, You can but it takes a lot of work,

    Let’s hold them accountable. Everyone of them!

  104. In the event that anyone thinks I was joking about making contact with my senator
    Here is the link
    http://casey.senate.gov/contact/

    Try finding a formant in which you can express you’re opinion. Not going to happen.
    Senator from one of the most important states in the union not even giving constituents a chance to express themselves,
    This scares me. If you doubt me try using a fake addy and see whar youget.

  105. henry. Most every congress person’s contact form is like that. That way they know how to route the message … and limit those pesky opinions. I live in PA so Casey is also my Senator. I gave generously to help him the first time around. Big mistake. Bobby does not care what you think. I’ve gone to the trouble of sending him hundreds of postcards via USPS. Easy to read and small, so necessarily brief. Been doing this since April of 2008. Sent to his Scranton office – small, so message not likely to be lost in a big heap. Have yet to hear from him other than email invitations to his expensive fundraisers, because he has sort of started up his 2012 campaign. He’s a pasty-faced twit. Cares not what anyone thinks. You will recall he is the one who, on Easter Sunday night 2008 announced his endorsement of Obie. Then immediately went through PA on a bus tour with him milking goats and bowling and such. The grin has yet to fade from that pasty face, so he’s got himself some pretty good setup. Know he got a better office in DC out of it. And of course that’s only an example of the small stuff.

  106. henry – I went to Hillary’s Senate site several times when she was US Senator, and noticed there was an easily accessible part where you could mail in anything you wanted to her. The site stipulated that you had to identify yourself fully and show you were a NY resident, and that you should also state exactly which government agency you were concerned about.

    Of course, no one expected her to read the mail, but she had a staff of 55 and you knew someone was going to process whatever you sent.

    I never sent anything, though I was tempted to, because I’m not a NY resident; but I think that showed the level of transparency and outreach that Hillary wanted to project, and I’m sure that’s why she got a 65% election victory in 2006, 10% more than in 2000.

  107. It’s a little sad when I just do not give a fuck anymore about race, or race issues. I’ve had it up to here with it.

    There may still be some legitimate issues out there, but I am less and less inclined to even want to hear the arguments. I’m being brutally honest, here. I just do not have the mental energy to devote to sorting out who has a real beef and who is just doing the old grandstanding race card make-em-guilt-up -some-support. The waters are too muddied by the crap complaints, and I don’t care to wade through it. Not anymore. I just don’t even fucking care anymore.

    Not saying it’s right or wrong – just being honest.

  108. H4T – It’s a healthy attitude. I remember when I was a kid (about 1963) and we had a discussion at church in an (all-white and wealthy) congregation where everyone was saying “they” (AAs) bring “our” property values down and this and that, mostly it was property value the people were worried about. I got up and said a black family had paid an exorbitant price to move onto “our” street and our property values and taxes were certainly not going down. “So what’s the big fuss?” I asked, “Who cares?”

    The youth minister later said to me “More people should think like you – Who cares?”

    Welcome to the club.

  109. HillaryforTexas.

    You’re not alone. AA’s have whipped that dog to death and I am sick of the whole oh-poor-me-I’m-such-a-victim crap. At one time, maybe. These days, no.

    I have no respect for AA’s who still spew that nonsense. Put it to rest. Admit that without African blacks full cooperation in the original slave trade it never would have happpened. Grow the f*** up and take responsibility for your lives. Don’t expect any more hand outs.

    And stop calling yourselves African-Americans. Maybe whites should start calling themselves Caucasian-Americans.

    Identity politics is destructive.

  110. HfT, I feel the same way, and I also hate and can’t believe I’m saying it. It’s like the worst right-wing stereotype of affirmative action in the world, and I’m horrified by it. When the best candidate for president in history is torn to shreds because of her gender, in the most degrading, pornographic, disgusting and humiliating way possible in the eyes of the entire world … and the least qualified, most corporate-friendly worthless, spineless empty suit in the world is illegally dragged across the finish line because he is black, I no longer want to hear how tough black people have it. One of them managed to get shoved into the position of the most powerful human being on Earth — including hello, nuclear launch codes — because he is black. I don’t want to hear how tough they have it and how everything is stacked against them anymore.

    And I especially do not want to hear about the terrible mental schism of black women — do they vote their race or gender?!?!?!?!?! OH NOES!!!!! Give me a break. When push comes to shove, they do what women do and get on their fucking knees for a bunch of assholes none of whom even gave a half-shit when Carole Mosely Braun and Shirley Chisolm ran. And they know it. When Braun ran, who was it backed her? Oh, the oh-so-terrible racist National Organization for White Women. Who gave a rat’s asshole for Chisolm? 60s feminism. Black men couldn’t give a damn for black women … and now they’re all in kneepads for black men. Business as usual for the Ladies’ Auxiliary.

    I remember when a woman I knew who was raised muslim was starting to get shoehorned into an arranged marriage by her Pakistani muslim father. She was worried that her family would pack her into an airplane to “visit the family” in Pakistan … and she’d never be heard from again. She told us all on a mailing list — full of Evil Racist White Women, of course — about one cousin she had who fell for that, and who got of the plane and walked right into a wedding that she could NOT get out of.

    Well, all of us Evil Racist White Women plotted — one each of us in most major airline hub cities gave her addresses and phone numbers and offered to put her up, planning that if she got stuck, she could ditch at the hub city and get a cab to one of our houses. We had it ALL worked out.

    You can guess what happened with Hillary was running — evil white woman with whom she had “nothing in common!” versus Obama, who could pronounce Pakistan correctly. She ditched Hillary so fast you could hear the whoosh — and after fifteen years of bending my ear and WHINING AT ME over how tough she had it at work because she was a woman, and how they were promoting a less qualified man over her because she “intimidating people” — hm, isn’t that called “being polarizing” when it’s a political candidate? And yet she claimed to have “nothing in common” — a direct quote — with the white, blond Hillary. I guess all that fucking whining she did at me for FIFTEEN YEARS was “nothing.” I’m sorry, but the next muslim or black woman who expects me to put up for her because she’s female is going to have a long wait. I’m not getting burned twice.

    So just keep it all to yourself. I don’t want to hear it, and I don’t care. Yeah yeah, poor you. Your ancestors were slaves. Well, if your other ancestors in Africa hadn’t been slave traders, maybe your relative wouldn’t have wound up here. And if you want to compete on who has relatives who have been sold like cattle, I can bet my retirement savings on it that I will beat you out. Oh, but I guess the fact that my own grandmother and her sister were sold into servitude to the local farm when under the age of ten is a big ol’ fucking eyeroll — who cares what happens to what Jeremiah Wright called a bunch of garlic noses?

    Fuck them, fuck their issues, fuck their historical oppression. My help is neither wanted, nor will it do any good. NO amount of compassion or understanding will sufficiently apologize for my darker-than-some-black-people “white” skin, so I am just not going to turn myself in knots trying. Need someplace to ditch if you get stuck on a flight to an arranged marriage? Sucks to be you. I am not letting you get close enough to get a knife into my back, babe.

  111. You go girl!

    Great rant. And I agree with every last word.

    In brief – my own disillusion with race-baiting began 20 years ago when I started working in mostly black public schools. People are people. Most will take advantage when opportunity presents itself. Think back to what you were like with siblings. (I had eight and it was every kid for themselves). Blacks have been allowed to get away with this crap far past its expiration date and now it’s a huge drag on the country.

    My poor mom had zero help raising nine kids in a foreign country with no family here to help her and a husband who was an on and off again alcoholic probably becasue of the overwhelming pressure of providing for nine children.

    Parents had little money, moved many times and yet never applied for welfare or any other help. Too proud. Mom lived through the English blitzkrieg. No one paid a dime for any of us kids. We all moved out early – me at 17 – as soon as you finished high school and from then everyone was on their own.

    Interestingly, five of us have BA’s, three have MA’s and one has an AA (and I mean Associate’s degree).

    And we all paid pour own way through college.

    In a nutshell, I just want to scream STFU when I hear this race-baiting crap.

  112. Janis – I’ve already said it: I love your attitude, and now I guess I know why you have that attitude. But just for the record:

    “Who gave a rat’s asshole for Chisolm?”

    I did, Janis. I met her and worked on her campaign in NJ and she took NJ delegates with her to the convention, where Humphrey gave her his delegates too. I think she had 153 delegates in all. She was a well-educated and very well spoken person and I really believed she would make a good president, better than Nixon anyway. But I ended up voting for Nixon anyway because I couldn’t stand McGovern and Nixon (at that point in time) had a few points in his favor in my book.

    Shirley Chisolm was what I call a “just-do-it” woman. She knew she didn’t stand a chance, but she went ahead and did it anyway. She famously said she was always discriminated against more because she was a woman than because she was black.

  113. H4T – it’s not you. The boy cried wolf about 10 trillion times too many.

    Now, he’s on his own – now he’s going to have to fend off that real wolf the way every one else has to – by getting an education, and working hard for what he wants.

  114. When we first came to the US, my husband was working in a small town a few 100 miles west of DC. There was this wife of his colleague’s — she was a Tamil and very tradition bound and wore saris (they were also new — this is about 22 years ago). One day I went with her around town and observed how various people, at the bank, and other places treat her. Her absolute confidence and the self assured attitude just came through and I didn’t see anybody react to her sari or the big dot on her forehead and such. It is all about you and what you make of this world. In this day and age, it is more about poverty than other external factors.

    I wrote this for NQ last year sometime on this very topic and that is how I feel — I don’t give a damn about my skin color or what others make of it.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/21/their-ancestors-ghosts/

  115. Janis – yes, they’ve become used to crying that no one is fixing their problems for them. Their ancestors, who worked hard to get ahead, must be turning in their graves.

    And they’re 12% of the population, but think the world is supposed to drop everything for them. They don’t even put it into context of the majority, 52%, not even having equal rights.

  116. Oh gawd…so Colbert King now speaks for all african americans to you people? Well, I won’t expect people like neetabug to feel comfortable here anymore. Go ahead and let it all hang out. Yuck.

  117. Jeswezey, I come from a long line of women who take no shit. I’ve heard all the stories — one grandmother met a raised fist from her husband, a man she was forcibly married to, by picking up a cast-iron frying pan with one hand and saying something along the lines of, “You drag me out of bed every time you bring your drunk bar buddies home at 2am and expect me to cook and clean for them, I cook and clean for you and empty your goddamn spitoon, but you will not raise your hand to me!”

    The other grandmother — the one who was sold like a chair with her little sister when their mother died — picked up a carving knife when that grandfather raised his fist to beat her. She was a little less diplomatic though. What came out of her mouth was, “Go ahead, you son of a bitch.”

    Both men learned that discretion was the better part of attempting to beat the shit out of your wife.

    I think my parents’ marriage was the first happy one in each one’s family’s history. It disgusts me that neither grandmother was able to enjoy a peaceable, pleasant husband, and neither parent a peaceable, pleasant household before me and my siblings. Anyhow:

    1) I come by my refusal to take any shit honestly. The more abject you make yourself in service of a mayun, the less respect you get. Men don’t respect that — and in some ways, I can see why not. They don’t even respect other men who act like that. Men knock one another around all the time; they get off on it. It’s like a bonding experience for them or something. You stand up when you are knocked down, you don’t strap on the kneepads and try to fellate someone into respecting you.

    2) I suppose since we’re “white” — although no one told the people in my parents’ neighborhoods when they were growing up calling them half-n*ggers and breaking into their houses to trash them when they weren’t home — none of the above counts, so you can pretend I never said it.

    Shirley Chisolm was tough as nails. She knew where it was, and if she didn’t like where you had it, she’d tell you where to put it. The only politician in history who’d open her mouth, and the truth’d come out.

  118. lorac,

    Right. 12 percent of the population. And yet, on those rare occassions when I have a few hours to channel surf I see their representation on TV, in commercials, on sit-coms and reality shows is more like 40 percent.

    Not that I am much of a TV watcher but WTF? Talk about over-exposure.

    I have said this before but in a way, I am glad I was diagnosed with several serious illnesses which forced me to stop teaching and start a new life in the country while I recovered becasue I honestly think had I been teaching the year that one was (s)elected I would have been fired. The attitude in the schools when I left was already horrendous. Obnoxious, nasty, arrogant, entitlement mentality with kids, parents and black staff. I can just imagine how much worse it would have become after his coronation.

    And, I am NOT ashamed to say, I am glad I no longer live or work in an area with a so-called “diverse” population. It is so much easier, not to mention pleasant.

  119. Oh PLEEEEEZZZZZZZE mj.

    Give it a break.

    I can’t count the number of times I walked past a group of black staff members who were insulting “whitey” during my two decades of urban school teaching.

    I used to teach in the ‘cafetorium’ and the stage was separated from the lunchroom by a thin curtain. A lot of the black staff would congregate there on breaks and didn’t realize I could hear every word they were saying and a lot of it was Shirley Sherrod -= Jeremiah Wright down and dirty style racist.

    Sometimes I would be so embarrassed at what I was overhearing as I was sure they wouldn’t want the whites on staff to know their true feelings that I would walk out on the pretense of going to the bathroom or somewhere else in the school.

    So don’t tell me that Blacks don’t ‘diss’ whites when they don’t think there are any around.

    And I would hardly qualify the postings here as insulting, nasty and obscene as the conversations of these co-workers often were.

    Another double standard. Blacks can complain but whites can’t?

  120. “The more abject you make yourself in service of a mayun, the less respect you get. Men don’t respect that — and in some ways, I can see why not. They don’t even respect other men who act like that.”

    You’ve got (most) men pegged right, here. There are some, though, who feel insecure in the face of a strong woman. I think it’s narcissism or some other source of weakness.

  121. pm317
    December 12th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    Did anybody watch the Sunday talk shows? Did they talk about the ‘damsel in distress’ running away?
    *********************
    I watched abc, nbc and fox talk shows this morning and not a one talked about his hasty exit that I heard. Here is what I wrote on another blog after watching these shows:
    I watched the two big mainstream media Sunday morning talk shows and want to scream. On Meet the Press Savannah Guthrie was nonstop Obama fluffing talking about how this tax cut deal was so Obama, tough, pragmatic and bipartisan. Harold Ford, who is at least a politician, defended it nonstop. Poor Paul Krugman on abc and Anthony Weiner on nbc were all by themselves explaining why this is NOT a good deal. Cokie Roberts, George Will and the others insist this is wonderful policy. Savannah Guthrie, so called reporter, was the worst bull thrower. Arrrrgh. If a country does not function inreality, it can never survive.

  122. It’s unevenly distributed a lot of times though, I’ve got to say. That 12% comes about because there are areas where it’s 50% or more compared to other areas where it’s like 0.02%. It depends on the market that a given show, movie, commercial, or whatever is trying to appeal to.

    I actually prefer to live in a more diverse area. Like you can see from my history, I’m not dumb enough to think that sticking to my own kind is some sort of paradise for me as a woman. I like having lots of different kinds of people around. But what about all those different kinds of people’s own political histories? They don’t count because they aren’t the one kind of people in this country’s history that were slaves a century and a half ago? Everyone has a story — why does anyone else not count, to the point where once again, we now labor under an incompetent absolute jackass who was illegally awarded a nomination he did not earn because he shares a background merely similar to that one category of people?

    And it is merely similar, because let’s face it. He’s not black. He’s a darker than usual, very wealthy white man from an extremely privileged background who can playact gangsta when it suits him and whom rich white people like because they make him feel cool. He’s got as much in common with your average working black schlub as a Mormon does. Yet we’re seeing that community — and no, it’s not just this one guy — pretty much out and blackmailing an entire political party into backing a total loser because … well, I don’t know why, exactly. Again — as much as a Mormon does.

    They backed the wrong guy. They backed a complete asshole with no leadership ability, because they knew that that sort of Unthreatening Black Man (the whitest possible kind) was the only one who had a chance. There have been other black candidates before, ones with real tread on their feet from helping their community. They went nowhere. Black people should ask themselves — out loud, and not in the privacy of their own brains when no white people are listening — why it is that this one guy was so nonthreatening appealing to the white power structure that HE was deemed acceptable by them instead of any of those black candidates, men and women, who had actually graduated from the school of hard political knocks and taken a couple on the chin for their community.

    In some ways, I’m envious of black tenacity. Women make a huge stink over deliberately voting against women … to prove they aren’t voting based on gender … to cute eligible boys and potential huzzbins. Maybe if we pulled the same balls-to-the-wall shit we’d have the zillion-times-more-qualified Hillary.

    “OH SO IT’S OKAY IF YOU DO IT!”

    Yeah. Wanna know why? Because if we did THAT, then we’d have a competent president in office who didn’t scare the shit out of us by the very fact of his bumbling boobery. We’d have someone there who would actually fight for a principle here and there and be able to explain why she was doing what she was doing, and then get it DONE.

    Oh, THAT. Hell, that doesn’t count. Actual results? Naah, let’s play political hot potato with people’s ethnicities some more. That’s WAY more fun that actually getting the economy out of the fucking gutter, closing the prison camps we’ve had for pretty much an entire decade, doing away with unreasonable search and seizure, and ending two wars we shouldn’t even be fighting. Pshaw.

  123. “There are some, though, who feel insecure in the face of a strong woman.”

    Oh they definitely feel insecure around strong women. But they don’t respect weak ones, either.

  124. BigCatLover
    December 12th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    —————————

    Thanks! It is not necessarily serious news per se but I guess they all avoid the topic of how bad he is doing and what the optics are of his behavior. At least we saw a number of articles in print.

  125. Bankers Celebrate as Irish Children Starve
    December 12, 2010
    (Irish Republican News, associated with Sinn Féin)—Irish children are now scavenging in bins for food, such is the dire level of poverty among some families, even as the Dublin government transferred billions from the poor to the rich. Senior AIB (Anglo-Irish Bank) bankers, many of whom were responsible for the practices which led to implosion of the Irish banking system, are to receive forty million euro in “bonuses” from the Fianna Fáil/Green Party coalition government. And as the government introduced the state’s harshest-ever budget—openly targeting Ireland’s poor—it was reported that children in Kilkenny are searching rubbish bins to survive.

    “We are seeing Third World conditions in the city, with two children found rooting through bins in search of food on High Street,” said the president of the St. Vincent de Paul charity, Liam Heffernan. “I also saw an adult searching through a bin recently for food. I have never seen conditions so bad. People are going hungry and are in desperate need of fuel, and there is a real chance that there could be an awful tragedy if people don’t act,” he said. Brendan Dempsey, Cork regional president of the society, said he had seen adults, but not children, going through bins in Cork city. It was something he had noticed over the last couple of months, but not before. “It’s years since I saw anybody rooting through bins, but I do know that families are extremely hard pressed at the moment and there are children going to bed hungry,” he said. “I’ve been in houses where they literally had nothing in the fridge,” he added. These included families where both parents had lost their jobs. “Social welfare will put food on the table, but it’s not enough to pay a mortgage and utility bills.” John Monaghan, national vice-president of the society, said children were routinely found in houses with no heat or light and little food. Calls for support this year are up by an average of 35 per cent on 2009, and by more than 50% in Cork, and more than 40% in Dublin, he said.

    Meanwhile, the government has been strongly criticized after it said it will issue giant handouts to the former managers of the insolvent and now nationalized AIB bank. The money, described by some critics as “hush money” payments, amount to 17,000 euro each to 2,400 workers.

  126. basil9
    December 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    And do you think for a minute I think the sorts of comments you endured were acceptable? Come on.

  127. “Oh they definitely feel insecure around strong women.”

    Some, please. I’ve already quoted here a redneck from eastern Tennessee who said in 2007 that he and everyone he knew were going to vote for Hillary. He said “our women take care of us and raise our families and when we’re sick they do the field work in our stead. A strong woman dont put us off none.”

    Appalachia went all-out for Hillary, so what the man said was true. Appalachia is known to be deeply conservative in mindset. I think that’s one reason why I’ve often read on this blog that women get more respect from conservatives than from liberals.

  128. “Senior AIB (Anglo-Irish Bank) bankers, many of whom were responsible for the practices which led to implosion of the Irish banking system, are to receive forty million euro in “bonuses” from the Fianna Fáil/Green Party coalition government.”

    Yup, the UK-US financial axis, aka “Wall Street”, did in Ireland the same way they massacred Iceland and Spain and kept Africa poor for decades, by lending them money they couldn’t repay. Now they’re in the business of taking those countries down one after the other. Their object is to save the dollar (and pound) by undermining the Euro zone countries.

  129. Ohanson,

    Sounds like a repeat of the great Irish famine. But of course this will not get any coverage in the American press as the ones who are suffering are white. They don’t count.

    Janis,

    There is plenty of diversity here once you get over the fact that externally and on the melanin scale there’s a certain homogenous quality.

    But aside from that, no two hamlets, no two streets, no two villages are at all similar. There are historic areas where until the 1960’s Italian Americans couldn’t walk in certain parts of some towns. There are enclaves which used to serve as summer getaways for the Irish poor or Hassidic jews. There are rich white, poor white, white trash, middle class whites. There are farmers,, Dutch, people who have lived here since before the US became a country. Some families date back to 1637. There are areas which are predominantly German. Increasing numbers of Hispanics now work on what’s left of the area’s farms.

    So it’s diverse. But it’s not nasty, loud, arrogant. I’m not afraid to drive on isolated country roads late at night as I was in some of the New Jersey ‘hoods.’

    If I did go back into teaching I wouldn’t be afraid I’d get threatened by bat-wielding 5th graders, punched in the eye by a third grader, falsely accused of physically harming a kindergartener by a parent trying to sue a school board for racism.

  130. Well, mj, you did just refer to others on this blog as “you people.”

    What hillaryforTexas started and others seem to have have agreed with is that a certain exhaustion has occurred among formerly sympathetic whites across the country. When one group bullies another, incessantly, for several years and expects civility from the group that’s being bullied while expecting to be given a free pass and allowed to bully whoever they please, well, this is what happens.

    People get disgusted. People notice the double standard. People become unwilling to extend themselves, walk in the others shoes, accept the injustuices as justified.

    Honestly, the black liberation theology crowd seems to have wrested the black American political message from what may or may not be a majority of blacks. What comes through loud and clear is that while they are extremists, whites don’t hear many blacks speaking pout against them.

    That’s another double standard. Yes, there have been and still are extremist white groups like Aryan Nation and the KKK but they are not tolerated by the majority of whites.

    That’s the big difference. I haven’t heard any notable black American speak up against this reverse racism. And until that happens, I think more and more whites are going to become more estranged from black Americans.

  131. basil9 – thank you for pointing out so well that there are other types of diversity other than just skin color. One of the most fun parts of life is getting to meet people with different interests – whether in their job or their hobbies – and learn lots of stuff you would otherwise never know about. Even hearing the life story and world view of someone who has grown up in a different part of the country is very interesting. IMO, the most interesting diversity is more than skin deep.

  132. “The most interesting diversity is more than skin deep.”

    Yes. Excellent turn of phrase. It’s about time AA’s realized that. Enough of this hysterical adolescent ‘bring it to the man’ mania. Enough of this my great-great-great-great-grandmother-was-a-slave and so all whites are gonna have to suffer for the rest of your lives.

    My ancestors were slaves, too. Enslaved by people of the same color. Irish by the English. And it wasn’t so very long ago.

    Grow the f*** up!

    BTW, anyone following the Pigford Reparations bill which just got signed by the one? You know, the one Shirley Sherrod got $13 million from. The one that started off as a fund for less than a thousand black farmers and has now grown into a slush fund for 90,000 in one state where there aren’t even more than a couple of thousand farms?

    REPARATIONS. It’s another thing driving a wedge between the races. Who’s going to reparate me is what many in the country are thinking.

  133. Clarifying pigford.

    There are 94,000+ black people who each got checks for $57,000 by claiming they were discriminated against by the USDA…while there were only 18,000 black farmers in existence. Who are all these other people and why are they getting all this “Obama money”?

  134. Yeah, I think you people who are making broad swipes at blacks sound like friggin racists, and I think Hillary would be disgusted. Good bye.

  135. mj, I don’t see where anyone is making broad swipes at blacks. I think they are expressing frustrations at how the race card is played. It’s sort of hard to describe one’s frustration with what has been happening without mentioning race. No one here thinks each and every black person falls into the category of doing that, but it’s sort of silly to keep qualifying it over and over with every statement.

    And sorry, but to say you are angry or disgusted with what a group is doing is not racism. Quite frankly, no one cares anymore if you think they “sound like a racist”. That’s the whole POINT we are making – that that horse has been beat to death so much til the term is meaningless anymore. Show me where anyone in this thread has expressed the opinion that black people are inferior. They haven’t. They’ve said they are pissed at the black community as a whole (not every single individual) using race as both bludgeon and shield. That is criticism of BEHAVIOR, not skin color.

  136. basil9
    December 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

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    Well said.

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    mj,

    Read basil9’s post please. Some of us are very tired of the race card being thrown out everywhere, that does not mean that we are painting all AAs alike or accusing them all of using this tactic. It just means that it’s a little like the boy who cried wolf. After a while you just don’t pay attention, it loses its power, and most of all you tend to think that the media and anyone who calls someone a racist just because they may not agree with obama and the dims on something are just not credible anymore.

  137. Judge to Rule on Challenge to Obama Health-Care Law

    By Andrew M. Harris and Tom Schoenberg – Dec 10, 2010

    A federal judge’s ruling on Virginia’s challenge to the Obama administration’s health-care legislation will be released on Dec. 13, a courthouse aide said.

    The decision by U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson will be made public at midday, Judicial Assistant Robin Belcher said today in an e-mail from the court in Richmond, Virginia.

    The law requires individuals to be insured. Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli filed a lawsuit challenging the directive on March 23, shortly after U.S. President Barack Obama signed the legislation.

    Cuccinelli, a Republican, contends that Congress exceeded its powers in creating the “individual mandate.” Lawyers for the U.S. defend the law as a proper exercise of legislative power. Each side has asked Hudson to rule in their favor.

    Led by Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a separate 20-state challenge to the Obama administration initiative is pending before U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson in Pensacola, Florida. He is slated to hear argument on Dec. 16.

    The Virginia case is Commonwealth of Virginia v. Sebelius, 10-cv-00188, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Virginia (Richmond). The Florida case is State of Florida v. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 3:10-cv-00091, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Florida (Pensacola).

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-10/judge-to-rule-on-challenge-to-obama-health-care-law-update1-.html

  138. mj – I think you’re gone, perhaps you’ve gone to some black blogs to tell them that generalizing about “whitey” is racist. Anyway, I have a comment. I’ve been thinking about this, and I think you’re misreading things.

    Eric Holder thinks we’re too cowardly to have a discussion about race, but I think he’s figuring it’s a one-sided conversation. It’s not. In order for it to be a conversation, BOTH sides should be able to talk, and not have people attempting to silence them by false cries of racism. We’ve had enough of that for the last 3 years, and even before. There is a huge backlash growing. I think the backlash is powered in large part by the silence that has been forced onto people. People are very aware that this country has shed blood and created hundreds of programs to help blacks, but that black leaders can only “survive” by ignoring that and focusing on how racist whites are.

    Talking about how one truly gets ahead in life, by studying and working hard, not by being a professional victim and holding yourSELF back, is the only way all people will be free. Reinforcing people’s dependency on the system or their victim status does not do them any favors. And yes, that applies to ALL people – but in relation to the subject of blacks, it’s not any different than what Bill Cosby says. Is he racist, too?

    People don’t like getting ripped off. They didn’t like it when Bernie Madoff did it. Why would they not care when fake farmers do it?

    Throwing the same accusations of “racist” here may feel good in the moment, but I think you’re totally missing the growing backlash EVERYwhere – well, except on the sites that wanted to vote for a man with no experience or demonstrated leadership qualities simply because he was black. People are used to criticizing their president – but now we can’t because he’s black? Backlash, backlash, backlash….

  139. “On Meet the Press Savannah Guthrie was nonstop Obama fluffing talking about how this tax cut deal was so Obama, tough, pragmatic and bipartisan … Cokie Roberts, George Will and the others insist this is wonderful policy. ”

    Well, that speaks to Bill’s impact (and his modesty). The upper bracket tax cuts make me sick — but my bigger fear was that Obama, Republicans and Pelosi had just killed America with apocalyptic deficits. Bill said yes the Bush tax cuts are inferior fiscal policy but this deal isn’t the End of the World — not yet. There will still be time to stop a deficit apocalypse.

    Horrifying as it was, the wimp-out was Obama’s smartest political move in office. A big reason I never had any black pride in Obama is I saw what he was doing: ‘The president’s job is to set the vision and let advisors execute,’ which was code for ‘don’t worry, white people, I won’t be running anything.’ That’s how he got elected. He violated that pact by actually trying to run things, with disastrous results — pushing Obamacare over Rahm’s objections, letting Holder run wild at Justice. By putting Bill out front and leaving the room, he reaffirmed his unspoken campaign pact with moderate liberal whites (Iowa, e.g.) that he was just supposed to be a sweet-talking figurehead.

    In the same move, he passively Sista Solja’d the ultra-left by shoving Bill Clinton’s ykw into Daily Kos’s big mouth. ‘Suck on Bubba’s fat one, Daily Kos!’ To neutralize their protests with the hated Clinton is Obama’s sweet STFU revenge on Markos, Bill Ayers, etc. who Obama despises for trying to use him as a black pawn all his life.

    Politically, Obama is as cunning as Bush. For already-nauseated voters it’s so over-the-top bad we’re just speechless. But he’s thinking of his 2008 non-leftist voters. Abdication actually works for him — it reaffirms the unspoken premise of his election — that he was never supposed to run anything. He’s an amazing weasel, but really, they all are.

  140. canann, I never heard anyone take it as anything but, “don’t worry, ‘people who think the president should have experience and qualifications’, I won’t be running anything”. I think everyone just saw it as his trying to justify his being an empty suit. I never heard anyone connect it to color. Or maybe I’m just not on the “code word update” mailing list lol

  141. Jan–I believe this is the first time this matter has come before a republican nominated judge. Two prior cases were dismissed by Clinton nominees. I expect the outcome here will be different. I myself believe the law is unconstitutional, and this may well be the case that comes before the Supreme Court. I think this judge coming from the state of Virginia will be receptive to both the argument that the individual mandate is beyond the scope of the commerce clause, and the argument that it is an infringement on rights reserved to the state under Article 10 given its financial impact. Finally, one can only hope that the court takes cognizance of the fact that since this improvident piece of legislation was passed more than 200 waivers have been granted by the Obama administration to politically connected employers and unions which raises an argument that the application is arbitrary and capricious therefore violative of the due process clause. I have not heard anyone make that argument, but it should be raised in the context of any hearing. Here is the bio:
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    Henry E. Hudson (born 1947) is a federal judge on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia. President George W. Bush nominated him on January 23, 2002, to a new seat created by 114 Stat. 2762. The United States Senate confirmed the nomination on August 1, 2002, and received his commission on August 2, 2002.

  142. I do not like this tax deal myself. Generally, I agree with Kauthammers take on it. I hope it is voted down and is revisited after that happens, but experience tells me that will not happen. Brandeis said sometimes it is better that an issue be settled than it be settled correctly. I do not think this is one of those times. I think it is a pork laden stimulus. I am generally supportive of an extension of unemployment, but the rest of it, no way. Also, I think a distinction should be made between small business owners who provide jobs–their taxes should not go up vs those who simply make alot of money and could stand to pay more. The only one who made that distinction was Joe Sestak who is a fine man and a good leader.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/09/AR2010120904472.html

  143. Politically, Obama is as cunning as Bush. [….]Abdication actually works for him — it reaffirms the unspoken premise of his election — that he was never supposed to run anything. He’s an amazing weasel, but really, they all are.

    ====================

    And when do you think Obama composed this detailed cunning symbolic plot of walking out on a press conf? While he and Bill were talking about the tax thing? While they were wandering empty halls looking for a reporter, any reporter? WAs it a flash of genius as soon as Bill tried to make Obama answer one of the questions?

    Did Obama plan the whole gesture before even asking Bill to fly to meet with him?

  144. mj,

    Some of the recent posts sounded like venting to me, especially when skimming them. So I stayed out. But I think if you looked closer, the disclaimers and qualifiers are all there. It’s a sub-group they’re talking about, not ALL.

  145. The point I neglected to mention is it also begins a process of destroying social security. That is the elephant nobody is talking about. In fact, I posted something on this by Erickson at Red State, who is death on this deal. There are a lot of conservatives who want to preserve social security but establishment republicans are no different than Obamacrats on that issue. They want to eliminate it. And where does that leave people who are well along in their careers and were relying on it as the cornerstone of their retirement plan. That is the hell of it.

  146. I read someplace the other day that the dollar has lost 25% of its value in the global market since Obama took office.

  147. Canaan
    December 12th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
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    A very interesting take. It suggests that the walk out was purposeful. Knowing his twisted mind that could well be true. If so then it was clever for the reasons you suggest. But the real question, then, is whether it was too clever by the halves. Why? Because it reinforces the impression that he is aloof, preoccupied with trivia and not in charge of the government.

  148. And where does that leave people who are well along in their careers and were relying on it as the cornerstone of their retirement plan.
    **********
    No question that one of the major effect and perhaps primary purpose is to start the process to eliminate SS and Medicare. In 30-40 years the US will be back to pre-FDR and LBJ when the elderly were the poorest demographic. Business and Union pension plans are history. Every time that I go shopping, get a coffee at Starbucks, etc. and see the young retail clerks and I know that they are screwed. It is highly unlikely that this process will be reversed. In 40 years, the great deal that Obama negotiated will cost more than 4 times the projected short falls in SS.

  149. I miss Neetabug myself and hope that if she is reading the blog that she will weigh in on any subject that interests her. Her input is valued.

  150. No question that one of the major effect and perhaps primary purpose is to start the process to eliminate SS and Medicare. In 30-40 years the US will be back to pre-FDR and LBJ when the elderly were the poorest demographic. Business and Union pension plans are history. Every time that I go shopping, get a coffee at Starbucks, etc. and see the young retail clerks and I know that they are screwed. It is highly unlikely that this process will be reversed. In 40 years, the great deal that Obama negotiated will cost more than 4 times the projected short falls in SS.
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    Yup.

  151. Obama = Bill Clinton’s warm up act.

    Sarah Palin’s Alaska
    Eric Erickson at Red State Blog

    As much as it pains some of my liberal friends (and some Republican friends too), I am a huge Sarah Palin fan and can’t wait to see her mop the floor with Barack Obama.

    At least she released her college transcripts unlike Acting President Logan . . . um . . . I mean Bill Clinton’s warm up act.

    In any event, I watched her TLC show tonight for the first time. I’m sorry, but as much as I like the good Governor, I cannot bring myself to watch TLC with its bevy of hoarding midgets and polygamous cretins and Kate Gosselin.

    But while I was away getting hot chocolate at the local coffeehouse for my wife, she’d flipped over and when I returned not only was Sarah Palin on, but Kate Gosselin and her small army of rug rats was there too.

    Wow. Well done, Governor. There will always be a contingent of leftwing wackos who will despise you just for breathing — let alone breeding and not aborting — but many people are now going to have a second chance to check you out.

    I suspect they’ll like what they see. Oh, and having Kate Gosselin on makes you look even better!

  152. “The Virginia court decision is expected for tomorrow: the results should be interesting.”

    More Judicial Obamacare Salvos This Week
    Moe Lane Red State Blog

    There are two cases in Florida and Virginia expected to be decided this week over the constitutionality of Obamacare. The underlying issue is whether the US Constitution gives Congress the right to force its citizens to engage in commerce (specifically, whether Congress can mandate individuals to buy health insurance). Which, the last time I checked, it does not; and while I understand that Obamacare’s remaining defenders are obligated to argue otherwise, I am not particularly obligated to treat either them or their argument more seriously than is merited. In this case, that means: not at all.

    The real issue here is not whether the individual mandate is thrown out – even the administration is tacitly admitting that it may not survive scrutiny – but whether the individual mandate can be declared unconstitutional without immediately invalidating the rest of the legislation. There is an issue called ‘severability‘ that is germane here: the short version is that if one portion of a piece of legislation is declared unconstitutional, then the entire law is supposed to be thrown out unless there’s specific language indicating otherwise. Said language never made it into Obamacare, thanks to the stellar parliamentary skills of Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Reid. It’s not a slam dunk – I’ve had actual attorneys tell me that the Supreme Court has shown a reluctance to be that hard-nosed about severability – but it’s something to keep an eye on.

    The Virginia court decision is expected for tomorrow: the results should be interesting.

  153. Janis, Hillary will not primary Obama. But that is near irrelevant. What we need is a/some stalking horse to primary him like Gene McCarthy did to LBJ. A better reference to our minds is Tom Harkin taking on George H.W. Bush when he was at 90% approval. Already Mike Gravel and Ralph Nader are likely to primary Obama. They will possibly be followed with more substantial candidates.

    After the stalking horse, Rachel Alexandra (a.k.a. Hillary) comes into the race. Remember after Gene came Bobby, after Tom came Bill. That’s why last year we wrote our “Howard Dean For President” article. Set ‘em up, knock ‘em down.
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    Morris is saying that now as well.

  154. First, something I posted in August 2008:

    A billion is a difficult number to comprehend.

    A billion seconds ago it was 1959. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes at the rate our government is spending it.

    Now think about the size of the notional value of the mountain of all derivatives, of which 95% are unregulated OTC Derivatives: One Quadrillion, one thousand one hundred and forty four trillion. (Source: The Bank for International Settlements)

    Some are resting assured that all financial problems can be handled by the use of public funds to sustain the usurious financial elite that created these problems. If one can sleep soundly believing there are no CONSEQUENCES, then one must be taking some heavy duty sleep medication.

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    Now, just a limited glimpse at part of our current situation:

    An article in the New York Times Sunday documents that the Frank-Dodd Financial “Reform” legislation of the Obama administration actually consolidated the control over the cancerous multi-trillion dollar derivatives market under the same small group of predatory banks which have brought the world economy the edge of the abyss. This is the corruption at the core of the Obama Administration. This, I believe, is why Hillary Clinton was not allowed to become President of the United States of America. Too much chance she would do something FDR-like.

    The article, entitled “Secretive Banking Elite Rules Derivatives Trading,” exposes the fact that nine large banks now run the derivatives market.

    According to the author, on the third Wednesday of every month, nine members of an elite Wall Street society gather in Midtown Manhattan. These nine bankers are members of the risk committee of the InterContinental Exchange, or ICE: Thomas J. Benison of JPMorgan Chase & Company; James J. Hill of Morgan Stanley; Athanassios Diplas of Deutsche Bank; Paul Hamill of UBS; Paul Mitrokostas of Barclays; Andy Hubbard of Credit Suisse; Oliver Frankel of Goldman Sachs; Ali Balali of Bank of America; and Biswarup Chatterjee of Citigroup. Many of these same people hold influential positions at other clearinghouses, or on committees of the powerful International Swaps and Derivatives Association.

    Thanks to the Frank-Dodd bill, instead of eliminating the derivatives cancer, which would be done by restoring Glass-Steagall, clearinghouses (of a sort) were set up, through which the derivatives are now supposed to be traded. Currently there are three derivatives clearinghouses all run by the major banks. The InterContinental Exchange, or ICE; the Chicago Mercantile Exchange; and one set up by Nasdaq.

    Under Dodd-Frank, the clearinghouses run by our friendly financial elite are a bad joke. Among other things, the risk committees there will “recommend” which derivatives should be handled through clearinghouses and which should be exempt! And they will make a fortune running these operations.

    The article covers more, but the NYT, well… we are lucky to get part of the story.
    w w w .nytimes.com/2010/12/12/business/12advantage.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

  155. I do not watch big media, but the sense I get from the postings above is that unhappy as the left wing bloggers are with Obama’s cave in to the Republicans big media is just fine with it. Since both are leftist what is the difference. I suppose big media is more like the Mensheviks and the bloggers are more like the Bolsheviks because they want access and influence to both sides, whereas the bloggers are content to have no such contacts but merely to make themselves heard through threats and cajoling. But then there are people like Cokie Roberts and George Will. Cokie is the daughter of Hale Boggs who was the party whip who pushed Johnsons Great Society Program through congress and was implicated in a personal scandal. Cokie strikes me as a limousine liberal who would support anything Obama does. Meanwhile George is a humorless abrasive Republican who would support the party line. Neither of them are looking out for the American People. Both have been fixtures on that program since the days David Brinkley had it.

  156. This, I believe, is why Hillary Clinton was not allowed to become President of the United States of America. Too much chance she would do something FDR-like.
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    I have long believed that to be the case. She was for the country and the middle class. Obama is for neither one. And most democrats are oblivious to the difference.

  157. I apologize for long post of an old something I posted elsewhere, but…

    Foxes Demand Chickens Pay for Cleaning up Blood in Chicken Coop, and Plan B
    Sep 28, 2008

    NEVER before has any sovereign government asked it’s citizens to bail-out foreign speculators who took a bath in the markets. (Over 50% of the financial toxic waste is in the hands of foreign investors.) We are talking well beyond a trillion dollars here.

    It amounts to a great plan for a worldwide hyperinflationary blowout through the destruction of the currency used for international trade.

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    Basil9 and jeswezey, thanks for your comments above re Ireland. jeswezey, I don’t think they are trying to protect the dollar. I think they are trying to destroy the ability of sovereign nations to regulate their usury, looting and genocide, and replace the now beyond repair global monetary-financial system with something worse. I am aware that sounds unbearably dramatic, so I’ll not take over the place with it. I want Obama out (legally) NOW, not in 2012. ’nuff said

    Section 8 (appropriately named) of the “Draft Bill We Wanted You Congresscritters to Rubberstamp” would have made the Secretary of the Treasury, for at least the next two years virtual omnipotent dictator over the economy of the United States, with ramifications worldwide. Shades of Mussolini’s Finance Minister, Volpe di Misurata, and his corporatist federations who ran things while Musso got the headlines.

    Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury proposed nothing less than a corporatist-fascist takeover of the United States of America with the rubber-stamp approval of the scared bunnies on Capital Hill and a frightened public.

    Plan B is below…

    There is a phenomenon I’ll call here “the American conscience.” Bottom-line, deep-down, we just don’t do that sh!t. We draw the line. The stink gives it away, even if our history classes were less than we deserved. The system irretrievably died 14 months ago; finally the “news” confirms to the public, via ex-CEO of Goldman-Sachs, now Bush Secretary of the Treasury, that it’s actually happened, and he has a proposal…

    Uh-huh. Our blood for the transfusion to this corpse, you said? We The People politely informed the bunnies this was not acceptable, maneuverings of Barney, Chris and Nancy be damned. George Bush and his idiot son and their parasitical looting friends be damned.

    We find ourselves at an interesting point in world history, a singularity, if you will. The time has come for us to pass through the barrier to the other side, where constraints formerly operative no longer exist. (In physics, use passing through the “sound barrier” as an example.) New possibilities open before us.

    We don’t need to waste money bailing them out. We have an excellent solution in place: bankruptcy law. Shut them down and let’s use our resources to rebuild our economy.

    How? Freeze the toxic financial waste to deal with later (most of it will be written off, as would gambling chips from a failed casino.) Pass the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, keeping people in their residences, and protecting necessary banking functions, a firewall preventing social chaos. Take over the banking system, as FDR did, pull out the banking functions from Frankensteins like J.P. Morgan-Chase, reorganize them as properly-regulated chartered state and federal banks and thrifts, and use them with government generated credit to pump federal credit–money–back into rebuilding our productive economy and infrastructure. We build ourselves out of this mess. We have to grow ourselves out of this problem.

    Has anyone noticed… There are no more free-standing investment banks in the USA! Poof! Collapsed, bought-out, or fleeing into the commercial banking sector to protect themselves.

    The ever-so-trustworthy Bush administration wants to use the proposed bailout money to reorganize the banking system for the benefit of the few–to fund the big banks so they can eat the little banks while the FDIC and taxpayers absorb the losses! Massive consolidation of the banking system. Massive control of the parasites over the economy. – This is their proposal.

    Until the whole thing blows up in a hyperinflationary bloody mess… We all become billionaires fighting over scarce food and fuel, while the transcontinental nation of our great founders is transformed into a looting-ground for the mega-financiers with their expensive shoes grinding into our faces.

    There are writers already celebrating the demise of the United States. They are too damn stupid to realize they are riding a great wave that will collapse an all-too fragile thing called civilization they take for granted.

    “It can’t happen here” and “there are too many protective safeguards in place” are bullsh!t.

    Civilization IS fragile. Most Americans can’t see that at all. Which is odd, come to think of it, because many envision a similar fragility when contemplating global warming. (One hell of an irony beyond the scope of this essay.)

    A worldwide hyperinflationary blowout through the destruction of the currency the global system is dependent upon for international trade will put us, via hyperinflation, in back-to-the-lander’s-survivalist utopia.

    It will put us in condition’s not unlike those endured by Senator McCain and other U.S servicepeople endured while prisoners: constantly under threat of death, sparse food, weak health, little or no medical services, death and madness all around, propaganda as education, and longing for what once was and wasn’t appreciated when we had it. Not for “4 More Years,” but for well more than a generation.

    “A republic, if you can keep it,” said Benjamin Franklin.

    I say we work to keep it. I’m not trying to scare people into action. I am speaking the truth. I’m sorry it’s too scary to contemplate – or almost so – but it is the truth.

    There IS a Viable Plan B!

    Amidst the reality of banks collapsing at an accelerating pace, the bailout scheme, being insisted upon by Hank Paulson, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, et al. is doomed to fail. If the bailout, even with lipstick, is passed, not only can it not solve anything, it will trigger Weimar-type hyperinflation immediately [thought of in historical context]. It will bring down the banking system upon which we depend for civilization as we know it.

    As many people inside Washington and on Wall Street perfectly well know, there is a Plan B: a three-step solution, which begins with bankruptcy reorganization, rather than hyperinflationary bailout.

    First, pass the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act (HBPA). This viable proposal has been in the offices of Congressional staff and leading economists since Sept. 2007, and everyone serious, who has studied it, knows it will work. Had Congress shown the guts to pass the HBPA in 2007, this crisis would have been averted, and we would have already been on the road to constructing a new viable international financial system.

    Second, Congress, in coordination with the Fed, must establish a two-tiered credit system. The Fed must immediately increase short-term rates to 4 percent, to send a clear signal that the U.S. government is behind a strong dollar. At the same time, Congress, using its Constitutional authority, must issue trillions of dollars in low-interest (1-2%) credit for long-term infrastructure projects, in the vital interest of the nation. We need high-speed rail and maglev, fourth-generation nuclear power, water management, new hospitals, repairs on our bridges and roads. These kinds of projects should be financed through capital budgeting, authorized by Congress at 1-2 percent interest, and distributed through viable (meaning separate from gambling activities, a la Glass-Steagall) state and federal chartered banks.

    At the same time, the United States, Russia, China, India and Brazil must take the lead in convening a treaty conference to establish a new international financial system based on fixed exchange rates, along the conceptual lines of what Franklin Roosevelt did in 1944 with the original (not monetarist) Bretton Woods System. We can and must put the bankrupt current international financial system through reorganization, and launch, on a global scale, domestic capital investment in infrastructure.

    Prominent Italian officials have voiced their support for the convening of such a conference, and Russian leaders, including President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin, have voiced similar support, particularly if the United States takes the lead. Japan, Korea and others would join in short order.

    No one in good faith can honestly claim that the current bailout scheme on the lips of Paulson, Frank and Dodd is the only option. It is not the only option. It is the option of a ruination of societies and nations. Plan B is available, is known and is viable, and can and must be acted upon now. What is stopping it is that elected and appointed officials, for one selfish reason or another, find it unacceptable.

    They took an oath of office. It is up to us to hold them to it. Now.

    ——————-

  158. darn…

    The following was intended to be at end of my post just above, not in the middle of it:

    —————
    Basil9 and jeswezey, thanks for your comments above re Ireland. jeswezey, I don’t think they are trying to protect the dollar. I think they are trying to destroy the ability of sovereign nations to regulate their usury, looting and genocide, and replace the now beyond repair global monetary-financial system with something worse. I am aware that sounds unbearably dramatic, so I’ll not take over the place with it. I want Obama out (legally) NOW, not in 2012. ’nuff said

  159. Am I just imagining a parallel here?

    2008-9 Give the banks a lot of money with no strings and hope they’ll use it for lending.

    2010 Give the millionaires a lot of money with no strings and hope they’ll use it to create jobs.

  160. Some voices of reason in Israel:

    *****
    Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livni The Voices Of Reason For Israel

    13 December 2010

    Hillary Clinton and Tzipi Livni Voices Of Reason For Israel

    Israel should freeze all new settlements in the West Bank, says Israeli Opposition Leader Tzipi Livni.

    It a statement of solidarity with the United States Livni supported calls from the Obama Administration for the Israeli Government to halt all new constructions in the West Bank to allow peace negotiations with the Palestinians to progress.

    Last month US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton offered the government lead by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu enormous incentives in exchange for guarantees of a temporary settlement freeze.

    America lay on the table was 20 new fighter jets and security assurances from the Obama administration. This was in recognition that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas had made a settlement freeze non-negotiable to avoid the Palestinian Authority walking away from the table.

    No freeze, temporary or otherwise has been announced, with the peace process now in disarray.

    It was no surprise then that opposition leader Tzipi Livni on ABC News said yesterday that the current government had no chance of forging peace in the Middle East.

    “In choosing between building more buildings or making peace, I prefer to make peace,” said Tzipi Livni last Sunday.

    In pointing to the coalition government that is heavily influenced by ultra-nationalist and pro-settlement parties that helped the Likud Party form government, Livni cast doubt over the future of peace for Israel.

    Responding to the ABC interview Hillary Clinton pointed out that the breaking down of the current negotiations was the joint responsibility of both Israel and the Palestinians but emphasized the lack of commitment to a settlement freeze as a trigger for the failure.

    In rising to the occasion Tzipi Livni and Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad in the joint ABC News Interview both committed themselves to the creation of a Palestinian State and peace in the region.

  161. turndown,

    The hope thing doesn’t seem to be working so well. Nor does throwing money at the sucking black hole of evil.

    I’m pushing for a kick-ass Glass-Steagall. Bankruptcy reorganize their schemes.

  162. Clinton Toughens Language on Middle East Negotiations
    December 12, 2010, 12:01 AM EST

    Abbas Rejects Further Talks Without Settlement Freeze

    By Nicole Gaouette and Flavia Krause-Jackson

    Dec. 12 (Bloomberg) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Israelis and Palestinians to stop “demonizing” each other and to make “real progress” on their disagreements in the next few months.

    Addressing senior Israeli and Palestinian officials, Clinton expressed “deep frustration” that negotiations haven’t gone further and faster. Both sides should stop assigning “blame for the next failure,” she said.

    “It is time to grapple with the core issues of this conflict on borders and security, settlements, water and refugees, and on Jerusalem itself,” Clinton said in a speech in Washington Dec. 10. Both sides “have often not been ready to take the necessary steps. Going forward, they must take responsibility and make the difficult decisions that peace requires.”

    As Israelis and Palestinians enter a new phase of talks after direct negotiations broke down in September, Clinton said the U.S. would offer proposals to bridge differences between the two groups “when appropriate.” The top U.S. diplomat stressed it was in the interests of the U.S. to see a resolution to a conflict she described as a “source of tension” in the region.

    Clinton spoke at a conference organized by the Brookings Institute’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy. The audience included Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.

    Stern Language

    Clinton adopted stern language in her first public remarks on the Middle East peace process since the administration decided four days ago to stop pressuring Israel to renew a moratorium on West Bank settlement construction.

    “Palestinians must appreciate Israel’s legitimate security concerns,” Clinton said. “And Israelis must accept the legitimate territorial aspirations of the Palestinian people. Ignoring the other side’s needs is in the end self-defeating.”

    She also rebuked Palestinians for seeking recognition of their state from the United Nations. [Why? That’s how Israel got started!] Brazil and Argentina announced this month that they would recognize a Palestinian state with pre-1967 borders, and Uruguay pledged to do the same next year. “Unilateral efforts,” Clinton said, are “not helpful and undermine trust.”

    Israelis were receptive to her message that time was running out to reach an agreement.

    ‘World is Changing’

    Barak said in a speech that came after Clinton’s. As for an agreement, Barak said “in the coming weeks we will find a way to make it happen.”

    Both sides must be ready, “mentally and psychologically and politically,” to come to the table, Barak said in an interview airing today on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS.”

    Negotiations must address “the real issues,” including “borders, security, refugees, Jerusalem, end of conflict and finality of future claims,” he said. “And I feel that the opportunity is here.”

    In bringing the two sides together in September, President Barack Obama and Clinton said they aimed for a peace settlement within a year. Clinton’s speech made no reference to that goal.

    ‘Days Ahead’

    To underline the administration’s sense of urgency, Clinton said U.S. discussions in the days ahead with both sides “will be substantive, two-way conversations.”

    She is sending U.S. envoy George Mitchell back to the region on Dec. 12.

    Clinton said she had already begun to work on core issues in meetings yesterday with Palestinian and Israeli officials, including Fayyad and Barak and also consulted Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat and chief Israeli negotiator Yitzhak Molho.

    Clinton said the two sides must agree on a “single line drawn on a map that divides Israel from Palestine” and to permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

    [They are, in fact, displaced refugees] The “difficult and emotional” issue needs a “just and permanent solution that meets the needs of both sides,” Clinton said.

    Clinton said Israel settlements are “corrosive, not only to peace efforts and the two-state solution, but to Israel’s future itself.” The U.S. doesn’t accept the legitimacy of continued settlement activity, Clinton said.

    Jerusalem’s Status

    On Jerusalem, which Jews and Arabs claim as a capital, Clinton urged the two sides to agree on an outcome that “safeguards its status for people around the world.”

    Direct talks between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas collapsed in September after less than a month when a 10-month Israeli moratorium on settlement construction expired.

    After weeks of diplomacy aimed at persuading Israel to renew a freeze on settlement-building, the U.S. retracted its offer to give Israel 20 additional F-35 fighter jets in return for a 90-day moratorium on construction in the West Bank.

    Barak said he favored such a deal in his interview with CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS.”

    “I tried to help it come to life, and I would love to see it implemented and carried out,” Barak said of the fighter-jet proposal. “And I don’t see it as a bribery.”

    The Obama administration’s offer reflected “a genuine sentiment within the American people” to help Israel “keep its qualitative military edge,” he said. “Israel takes upon itself much more security risks than usual. And America can come to our help.”

  163. Glass-Steagall is so cool. Unless one is a lover of the Federal Reserve you don’t have to understand the details to feel a smile growing in your heart just scanning the legislation.

    Banking Act of 1933
    by the 73rd Congress of the United States
    Public Law 73-66

    73RD UNITED STATES CONGRESS
    1ST SESSION
    An Act
    To provide for the safer and more effective use of the assets of banks, to regulate interbank control, to prevent the undue diversion of funds into speculative operations, and for other purposes.

    ——————————–

    Defend the nation and working people, and pass either
    HR4375 The Glass-Steagall Restoration Act, or
    HR4377 The Return to Prudent Banking Act, or
    HR4461 The Banking Integrity Act.

  164. Obama’s poll numbers in free fall again

    Rick Moran

    We saw the long, slow decline of President Obama’s approval numbers during the excruciating process of passing Obamacare. Now McClatchy has a poll that shows the president with his lowest approval numbers yet, largely due to a drop in support from his base:

    “He’s having the worst of both worlds right now,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the national survey.

    “As he moves to the center, he’s not picking up support among independents and he’s having some fall-off among his base. If his strategy is to gain independents and keep the Democrats in tow, it isn’t working so far.”

    The poll was taken from Dec. 2 through Wednesday, as the president proposed a two-year freeze on federal civilian workers’ pay and cut a deal with congressional Republicans to extend expiring tax cuts – even those for the wealthy, which he’d opposed.

    Overall, just 42 percent of registered voters approve of how he’s doing his job, while 50 percent disapprove.

    Obama’s standing among Democrats dropped from a month ago, with his approval rating falling to 74 percent from 83 percent, and his disapproval rating almost doubling, from 11 percent to 21 percent.

    Among liberals, his approval rating dropped from 78 percent to 69 percent and his disapproval rating jumped from 14 percent to 22 percent.

    His position among independents remained virtually the same, with 39 percent approving and 52 percent disapproving. A month ago, it was 38-54.

    The president’s continued failure to rally independents could ruin his bid for re-election. A hypothetical 2012 matchup showed him getting the support of 44 percent of registered voters and Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, getting 46 percent.

    Obama still gets a 62% positive rating for his performance from non-white Americans (no breakdown for African Americans) which means his numbers are in the low to mid-30’s with whites. He is doing absolutely nothing that would give any group the idea that he knows what to do next or that even if he does, he can accomplish it.

    Americans are in the process of dismissing this man and unless there is some international crisis that would cause people to rally around the president as they did with Jimmy Carter during the Iran hostage crisis, it seems improbable that the president can raise those numbers very much prior to the 2012 election.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/12/obamas_poll_numbers_in_free_fa.html

    (ht/) Ed Lasky

  165. Too sick at heart to go looking for this: apparently Obie has signed school cafeteria legislation which would gladden Mechelle’s heart. Includes a provision limiting bake sales. In addition to Pumapac’s WH czar, we are going to need a Bake Czar.

  166. The left sees history’s fist coming. Again.

    James Lewis

    Want to know why the Democrats in Congress are mumbling “f*** the president”? Want to know why the Cancun mobsters are demanding world power for yesterday’s climate fascism?

    This is Dunkirk, folks. It’s the Battles of Midway and Gettysburg rolled into one. This is the watershed moment in history.

    This is where the Evil Empire gets its comeuppance.

    The next few years may be the most historic ones in our lives.

    The left is at the very peak of its power since the Evil Empire fell in 1991, with Obama occupying the White House today, surrounded by his commissars. The left is still pushing the climate scam because it’s the biggest totalitarian power-grab in history, and they can’t let go of it — even if nobody believes Algore anymore. Trillions of dollars are teetering on the edge, like the Chicago Climate Exchange, and leftists are all rushing in to keep it from screaming down into the steep canyon. This is right out of a Road Runner cartoon.

    But the biggest threat the left sees is Governor Sarah Palin. And it’s not just the American left — the Euro-lefties hate Governor Palin in the same way they still go foaming at the mouth over Maggie Thatcher. The U.N. corruptocrats fear her already. Right now, the worldwide left is feeling a lot more scared than we think.

    Here’s why:

    (a) Palin is Reaganesque beyond any politician we have seen in two decades. When the Soviet Empire was defeated, it was by three Western conviction leaders: Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and John Paul II.

    (b) Palin is charismatic far beyond Obama’s sputtering appeal. You can tell Obama’s not happy whenever he makes that prune face, like he’s biting into a lemon. Obama looks sour whenever he is not being cheered and adored by the masses. He needs that adulation to prop up his fragile ego. Obama can’t hide his sour face when things turn bad.

    In the Kremlin today, you can bet they are video-screening Obama’s prune face frame by frame to see how Our Hero is doing. And Putin is laughing at the photos. Putin is a Russian nationalist, and he doesn’t want Obama to be the new Lenin. If anybody is going to be the new Lenin, Putin wants it to be Putin.

    (c) Sarah Palin is a Reagan-style constitutionalist. The hard left understands that, even though they pretend not to. They know perfectly well who they are and what they are. The hard left consists of wannabe totalitarians. You can tell by the fear they show at the prospect of losing power.

    George Washington welcomed his chance to leave the presidency and go home, but these people live for the dream of power. They are obsessed with it. That’s why the Democrats finally showed their rage and anger against Obama in public. You think only one Congress critter mumbled “f*** the president” to himself? They’ve all been saying it over and over again. They’ve been waking up at night, screaming it out loud. Watch all the little cartoon thought bubbles coming from the Democrats in D.C. and you see one giant “f*** the president!” And Obama knows it.

    That’s why we need a constitutionalist president again — because the lust for power is a common human failure. Obama is not the first. He is the average power-hungry pol as demonstrated by the last six thousand years of history. Political parasites have been the bane of human existence since Egypt and Sumer.

    We need to see our leaders walking away from power over and over again. Harry Truman went home and was glad to leave the snake pit of Washington, D.C. behind. Jimmy Carter didn’t want to give up power. And Obama is going to keep popping up like a bad Jimmy puppet for decades to come.

    To the left, we are seeing a perfect replay of the historic crash of the Soviet Union. They’ve seen this movie before.

    Remember that the Soviet Empire crumbled of its own inner contradictions. All the West did was show its character and determination.

    Remember also that Reagan, John Paul, and Maggie Thatcher were hit by assassination attempts. Reagan and John Paul were badly wounded and lived with the pain for the rest of their lives. Thatcher had a lucky escape. John Paul’s assassination plot was traced directly to the KGB; Reagan’s and Thatcher’s would-be assassins were also radical leftists.

    In the end, the Soviet Empire turned out to be 91 percent Potemkin Village and 9 percent real. But it took real character and courage to blow that house down.

    Reagan, Thatcher, and John Paul saw some very bad times, but they didn’t give up.

    That’s the lesson for all conservatives.

    Learn it or lose it. Learn from your own history.

    The other side is feeling desperate. All their power amounts to a false front.

    This is the time for conservatives to go for victory.

  167. Mrs. Smith
    December 13th, 2010 at 6:02 am

    Great article, thanks for posting.

    I never realised how ignorant and leftist the AP is… check out this article, Bristol Palin, the oldest daughter adjusts her mom’s hair and apparently, AP deems this “Palin brings her hairstylist to Haiti”, what a piece of crap the AP is.

    I remember they did the same exact thing to Hillary, when she travelled with her mom.

    AP ==> PO$

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/12/latest-media-created-palin-scandal-comes-crashing-down-she-brought-her-hair-stylist-to-haiti-it-was-her-daughter-bristol/

  168. hta

    “Obie has signed school cafeteria legislation which would gladden Mechelle’s heart. Includes a provision limiting bake sales. In addition to Pumapac’s WH czar, we are going to need a Bake Czar.”
    _________________________

    More than the faux principle of healthy foods only. Disparaging community participation and entrepreneurship would be the underlying factor for the provision.

    So, if you make a batch of brownies for sale by the Girl Scouts raising money for Summer Camp in front of your local supermarket, you’ll be arrested?

  169. Hi Mrs. Smith, I returned to add to the DREAM reply I submitted yesterday. I thought the House had already passed it but doubted I could come up with a link at that time, but by chance, found it just now:

    The House last week passed the Dream Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for people who arrived in America illegally as children and who attend college or join the military. But the legislation stalled in the Senate. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he may take up the bill again this week, but few expect it to pass.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/congress/2010/12/dems-could-miss-last-chance-pass-their-own-agenda

    I have just read your magnificent ‘find’ above. I’d no idea Palin was an international phenom. Wow. No wonder they keep after her. Today it is about her taking a hair dresser to Haiti to fix up for a photo op with cholera patients. Turns out it is Bristol.

  170. So, if you make a batch of brownies for sale by the Girl Scouts raising money for Summer Camp in front of your local supermarket, you’ll be arrested?
    ——————
    I got the impression it pertained only to bake sales at school, but who knows? It was a brief fluff piece.

  171. “But the legislation stalled in the Senate. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he may take up the bill again this week, but few expect it to pass.”
    ___________________

    Harry is willing to play Bad-Cop to Pelosi’s Good-Cop- works for me.

    The language contained in the bill is too loosly written. Obama should be half as concerned for legal citizans rather than worrying about illegals who can do what former illegals have done… start the application process and go through the existing system.

  172. this is interesting

    Bayh has categorically stated he will not run for IN-Gov in 2012……….i wonder else he’d be doing?

  173. Moon – from the comments section on the WaPo article…nothing new, but well-written, and still – fair game, IMO

    “FlashHarry wrote:
    Any discussion of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign spending for 2012 should begin with a recollection of the fact that he promised to accept public financing for his 2008 campaign and then reneged on that promise, thus being able to outspend John McCain by vast amounts.

    Any consideration of the current president should begin with an awareness of the fact that he continues to conceal virtually the entire paper trail of his existence from birth to the White House in a tight shroud of secrecy.

    American voters of all political persuasions clearly remember the Obama 2008 campaign repeatedly promising that their administration would uphold the highest ethical standards with a particular emphasis on transparency.

    A vast majority of these voters believe that the process of running for the office of President of the United States should be the toughest public job interview on the planet.

    The sad fact remains that the current president could not be hired as a janitor in a federal building with the amount of verifiable background information that he has provided.

    Barack Obama’s original typewritten long form birth certificate, school records, SAT and LSAT scores, college and law school admission records and grade transcripts and thesis papers, medical records, passport history, Illinois state senate tenure records, presidential campaign foreign donor lists, complete White House visitor logs and other relevant records and documents have all never been released or allowed to be subjected to any sort of scrutiny, despite several years of repeated requests for disclosure by numerous individuals and non-traditional media organizations.

    The Obama 2008 campaign and subsequent administration have to date spent a considerable sum on legal fees, estimated in the millions of dollars, to fight Freedom of Information Act filings and other requests to examine this material

    The mainstream media has given Barack Obama a remarkable free pass on this basic issue of personal truth and transparency.

    It had become customary in postwar modern times for presidential candidates to allow for the release and scrutiny of the substantive body of their personal records and credentials, indeed up until 2008 in large measure precisely because of a strong interest from the mainstream media.

    The appearance of Barack Obama upon the national political scene changed that dynamic, and he received a special exception from this important traditional practice.

    In their eagerness to “make history” by covering the campaign of the man whom they were clearly interested in helping to become the first black president, the mainstream media failed in their essential national responsibility, namely to report on significant events with thoroughness and impartial objectivity. They ignored their duty to search for the truth and should be regarded with disdain by all people who value information in a free society.

    Democratic incumbents at all levels of government, as well as rank and file voters, might well demand to know exactly how Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the rest of their party leadership allowed a person who was obviously given only the most ridiculously cursory sort of vetting to become their presidential nominee.

    Barack Obama was presented as a brilliant intellectual with stellar Ivy League credentials whose cool low key style would transform the culture of Washington and lead America into a new harmonious postracial era while achieving miracles of bipartisan cooperation.

    We all know how that fantasy really worked out.

    There exists a widespread and growing international speculation that an objective examination of Barack Obama’s hidden paper trail would clearly reveal that his meteoric rise up the educational and career ladders was largely the result of multiple affirmative action decisions and that his vaunted intellectual reputation was a deliberate fabrication.

    In short, just another leftist ideologue big city machine politician with more than a touch of narcissism who has cleverly used his race to get ahead and get over.

    Barack Obama’s true origins, past associations, ideological convictions, behavioral influences and ongoing relationships are matters of great concern to a fast growing number of people who just want to know the truth about this man.

    What is being hidden and why are they hiding it?
    12/13/2010 5:48:26 AM”

  174. Dean: Obama won’t face primary foe

    Former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean said on Sunday he doesn’t expect President Barack Obama to be challenged for his party’s 2012 presidential nomination.

    “I don’t think he’s going to face an opponent in the Democratic primary,” he told Bob Schieffer on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “I think that would be bad thing for the country and a bad thing for the Democratic Party. The history of people running against presidents in their own party is that the challenger, he loses, and then the president is weakened and loses.”

    As the controversial tax deal the White House struck with Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts enrages liberals, there’s been plenty of buzz that Obama might face a primary challenger in 2012. And Dean’s name has even been floated as one of the more likely people to challenge him.

    On Sunday, Dean supported the president, saying, “He has done things that are terrific.”

    Yet quickly added, “This is not one of them.”

    ………………………………………………

    I wonder how many pieces of silver it took.

  175. Finally someone not mincing words

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/13/huckabee-obama-self-destructed-at-tax-deal-press-conference/

    Huckabee: Obama self-destructed at tax deal press conference
    By: CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby

    Washington (CNN) – In the eyes of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, President Obama’s press conference last week to address his deal with Republicans on taxes and unemployment benefits was “amateurish.”

    “The most bizarre part of the whole process was watching President Obama self-destruct at the podium yesterday,” Huckabee told the National Journal in an interview published Monday, when asked about the tax deal.

    “I was just stunned – I really couldn’t believe that a man that was elected president was as amateurish as he was, and essentially launched from the podium at some of his own, taking aim and mowing down everybody in D.C. and walking away having not understood that he just lost a lot of people,” he said.

    Huckabee called the deal “the best anyone can hope for at this point” but said he had hoped that tax rates would be extended longer than just two years.

    He also questioned why the president would kick the can down the road two years, assuring that the tax debate will be renewed in the middle of his re-election campaign.

    “Politically, I was shocked it was going to be two not three, because it puts this whole thing in the very center, the bull’s-eye of the 2012 presidential election,” said Huckabee, who is considering a repeat presidential run.

    Obama said during the press conference that he welcomes a campaign fight in 2012 over the GOP’s economic vision, specifically their demand to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.

  176. Washington — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is traveling to Canada on Monday for talks expected to focus on trade, security and fighting transnational crime with her Canadian and Mexican counterparts.

    The meeting in Wakefield, Ontario, with Canadian Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon and Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa is aimed at boosting cooperation on those issues, as well as tackling the growing threat from Mexican drug cartels.

    U.S. officials say the three will focus in particular on Central America and the Caribbean, notably the situation in Haiti. In Central America, there are rising fears of crime linked to drug trafficking spilling over from Colombia and Mexico, which are stepping up their counter-narcotics efforts. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the meetings.

    The top diplomats are preparing for a meeting of the heads of state of the three countries, which will be held on an undetermined date in the first quarter of 2011.

  177. jeswezey
    December 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
    The left sees history’s fist coming. Again.

    James Lewis

    Not a phrase of insight in the article.
    _________________________________

    “The left is still pushing the climate scam because it’s the biggest totalitarian power-grab in history, and they can’t let go of it — even if nobody believes Algore anymore.”
    _____________________

    I believe the above paragraph is the salient piece in the article, jeswezy. Had Cap n’ Trade passed in Copenhagen, we’d be facing a carbon tax on every, living, breathing human on the planet. And additionally, all animals owned by people. Cap and Trade is a Soros hoax designed to enrich himself as the major holder of auctioned Tax Credits For Sale to corporations who have polluted over their predesignated pollution limit. Where the polluter would have to negotiate a price with Soros to “buy” the credit to be in compliance with federal law.

    I took this a step further in theory, when the issue was front and center. Soros may have set the price for a carbon credit so high, he would have opted trading shares with each corporation in addition to a handsome price for the carbon credit. Thereby, expanding Soros’ reach exponentially into manipulating corporate business as he does in the currency and gold market.

  178. I never realised how ignorant and leftist the AP is
    ————————
    The jackass who runs it — I forget his name, is a remittance man from the New York Times. He is of the same ilk as young Arthur and his ship of fools.

  179. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Washington — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is traveling to Canada on Monday for talks expected to focus on trade, security and fighting transnational crime with her Canadian and Mexican counterparts.
    ________________________

    The Canadian PM is not a fan of Obama. He was adamently opposed to the UN Talks on Race and said so publicly. Hillary is in good company today.

  180. Former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean said on Sunday he doesn’t expect
    ==============================
    This his fat Martin Borman clown has a bad track record. He never “expects” anything until it happens. He is a Wall Street shill according to LL. He is one of that growing category of people like Reverend Al who are not worth listening to. They speak only for themselves. Yet elite media presents them as if they spoke for millions of people.

  181. Bayh has categorically stated he will not run for IN-Gov in 2012……….i wonder else he’d be doing?
    ———————-
    Working for a Wall Street firm, like his father did after he lost to Coates. That is what I am told by people who know him. His wife of course is an executive with a health care company, and this became evident when he fell through his ass on Obama care. He is no hero.

  182. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Dean: Obama won’t face primary foe
    ___________________________

    On Sunday, Dean supported the president, saying, “He has done things that are terrific.”

    Yet quickly added, “This is not one of them.”
    ___________

    I doubt if Dean could name one thing Obama has done to benefit the People.
    _______________________________

    “Howard Dean says the health care bill that President Barack Obama signed is like the one Mitt Romney signed as the governor of Massachusetts.” (And it sux..)

    http://politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/dec/05/howard-dean/dean-howard-says-health-care-bill-prseident-barack/

  183. It’s come to this.

    Those of us who defy Holder’s charges that “we’re too cowardly to have a discussion about race”
    are deemed “racist” when we try to do exactly that.

    Criticizing anything some AA’s do is “racist.”

    Oh, please.,

  184. A vast majority of these voters believe that the process of running for the office of President of the United States should be the toughest public job interview on the planet.
    ————————————————–
    That is pure unadulterated bullshit. 58% of the electorate voted for this unvetted fool. We will get nowhere in this process if we throw out these bromides. Only a moron would say that. It is not true. The American electorate does not get to the hard questions, or a serious evaluation of candidates. It is an emotional decision based on marketing and who will give them more or take less away from them. We have got to stop these kind of lies. You cannot build a functional political model around such utterly erroneous assumptions. And from a pollsters standpoint, let us stop focusing on what the American People say and base our analysis on what they do, or in this case fail to do. The history of the 2008 election tells you all you need to know about how the American People today make such decisions.

  185. Mrs. Smith: Yes, I was speculating in jest
    ————-
    Sorry I missed the humor, because a good laugh right about now would be most beneficial.

  186. A vast majority of these voters believe that the process of running for the office of President of the United States should be the toughest public job interview on the planet.
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    As a matter of fact, I tested that very proposition in 2008. I prepared a job description for the job of president, posted it on this blog and then demonstrated that Mr. Obama was not qualified for the job. I gave it to friends, relatives and businessmen who supported Hillary. They went to the precinct caucuses and they read it to the “American People” who were present. In each instance, they did not want to hear the truth or the facts. In some cases they covered their ears, and in other cases they sang Obama songs. If you think they are any different now forgetaboutit. Just remember Doctor Heidegers Experiment. The only way to reach most people is through their emotions on political matters. Sad but true. If you think different try the same experiment yourself. But please do not fall for the old lie that the American People want the job to be the toughest interview. They may say that but that is not how they behave.

  187. Speaking of Obama’s 2008 campaign finances, Pumapac has just released another FEC update:

    The info at http://www.MUR6142.com has had a facelift. Theamericanway is on File 23 of 50 of the proofing. With the coming of the New Year it is time to look at what we have achieved so far with this project:

    1. The filing of a credible complaint against the Obama Campaign has extended their campaign finance records retention requirements that would otherwise have been just three years.
    2. The Obama Campaign was required to more accurately report the funds used in the campaign. They did issue multiple revisions to every report issued during the campaign.
    3. The Campaign did create an item called “Unitemized Donors” that documents the imbalance in their books. This makes it clear how implausible the “small donor” story is.
    4. The Campaign was required to verify the citizenship of some of the foreign donors.

    And, most important of all, we let them know we are watching.

    We intend to pursue the request for an Audit of these campaign finances. At the very least we will provide some transparency to Campaign’s financing by organizing and presenting the information in a usable manner for the public.

  188. That is the problem with so many of these “journalists”. They cut down trees to produce paper to write articles about a world that exists only in their mind, or in the 12 memos per day they receive from the Obama White House. There are a few exceptions but damned few I am afraid.

    Somebody asked who wrote the article predicting that Bambi would raise a billion. It was Obama loving Chris Cilezza who given a two week suspension by the cowardly editor of WashPo for producing a video of himself and Dana Milbank, also of the Washington Post, sitting around with Dana Milbank in smoking jackets and calling Hillary a bitch. Those two cases of arrested development should have been hung by the starboard yardarm for that kind of crap–if WashPo was a credible rag–which they are not.

  189. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Dean: Obama won’t face primary foe
    ___________________________

    On Sunday, Dean supported the president, saying, “He has done things that are terrific.”

    Yet quickly added, “This is not one of them.”
    ___________

    I doubt if Dean could name one thing Obama has done to benefit the People.
    _______________________________

    “Howard Dean says the health care bill that President Barack Obama signed is like the one Mitt Romney signed as the governor of Massachusetts.” (And it sux..)
    ——————————–
    To Fat Ass Howard Dean: then what you are saying sir, is Obama may not be a Republican in name, but he behaves like one?

  190. A Sarah Palin Christmas
    Larry Johnson
    No Quarter

    Don’t kill the messenger. I’m just reporting what I saw. Last night we hosted a Christmas Party at our house for the nurses who work for my wife. My wife is a nurse manager and has a staff of 67 (the fact that no human being should have to write fitness reports on 67 people is another matter for another time).

    Among the more than 50 people crowded into our house were a small group of teenagers, boys and girls. I have a pool table in my basement alongside a nice 50 inch flat panel TV. Playing eight ball and watching some tube. Life is good. It is a sort of man cave environment. Three of the teenage boys were eager to play billiards and I obliged them. A fourteen and fifteen year old tandem of Irish twins played me and a ten year old boy.

    Now you’re asking, I”m sure, what the hell does this have to do with Sarah Palin?

    When the billiards match concluded (yes, I beat up on the 14 and 15 year old boys) the boys decided to sit down and watch some tube. It is not your normal system and the remote is not easy to figure out so I offered to get them the channel they wanted. Imagine my shock when all three–the ten year old boy, the fourteen and the fifteen year old–requested SARAH PALIN’S ALASKA. I have HBO, Showtime, Encore and NFL Network. Although I do not subscribe to the Playboy channel it was late enough at night that I’m sure Showtime had a nude fest on somewhere.

    Yet, despite all of those options, the boys wanted to watch Sarah Palin’s show. Hell, I did not even realize it was on. These guys knew where and when the show was on. That tells me something about the Sarah phenomena. She is resonating with a segment of society I never imagined would have a clue about her.

    One of the boys did confess that he found Sarah’s daughter, and I’m quoting here, “HOT.” I found that reassuring in that one would expect teenage boys to be thinking about girls.

    Democrats beware. All of your attacks on Sarah Palin and your attempts to demonize her or demean her intellect are likely to backfire. You know Sarah is a genuine phenomena when you are confronted with the fact that three boys with a chance to watch anything on TV choose to watch Sarah.

    How’s that for a Christmas story?

  191. Federal Judge to Rule on Health Care Law’s Constitutionality
    wsj

    A Virginia federal judge is expected to rule Monday on whether the Obama administration’s health law violates the Constitution, opening a new stage in the administration’s defense of its biggest legislative achievement.

    The ruling by District Judge Henry E. Hudson is perhaps the most significant so far among a slew of state-based legal challenges to the law, which also faces attack by newly resurgent Republicans in Congress. More than 20 federal lawsuits have been filed against the health overhaul since President Barack Obama signed it in March.

    While the cases differ somewhat, they largely rest on the argument that Congress lacks constitutional authority to require most Americans to carry health insurance or pay a fee. The Obama administration counters that three clauses of the Constitution gave Congress the power to put the requirement, known as the individual mandate, in the law as part of regulating how people pay for health care.

    The Virginia challenge is led by that state’s attorney general, Republican Ken Cuccinelli. Separately, U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson in Pensacola, Fla., on Thursday will hear arguments in a challenge brought by officials in 20 states. He could offer the clearest indication yet of how he will rule.

    Supporters of the law are bracing for defeats in Virginia and in Florida. Judges Hudson and Vinson have both shown sympathy to the plaintiffs’ arguments and are GOP appointees.

    Two other federal judges, in separate lawsuits in Michigan and Virginia, have already ruled in the administration’s favor on the individual-mandate question. Those cases, along with the other federal cases challenging the law, have a narrower base of plaintiffs than the suits brought in Florida and before Judge Hudson in Virginia.

    Even if judges rule the individual mandate unconstitutional, it isn’t likely to stop the law from being carried out for now. Plaintiffs in the Virginia and Florida cases have asked the judges for an injunction to halt the law’s implementation nationwide. But people close to the plaintiffs concede the federal courts are likely to leave the law in place while the challenges go on. Both sides expect the matter to end up at the Supreme Court.

    The individual mandate doesn’t take effect until 2014, so courts are less likely to see the need for a quick injunction.

    Health-care consultants say employers and health-care companies are pressing ahead with their response to the law without regard for the court’s decisions. States have started planning to create new health-insurance exchanges for consumers to shop for insurance, and they are calculating the costs of expanding the Medicaid insurance program for the poor.

    In addition to arguing that the individual mandate is unconstitutional, Florida’s lawsuit, led by a mostly Republican group of governors and attorneys general, also contends that the law’s expansion of Medicaid to 16 million additional Americans places an unfair burden on already cash-strapped states.

    In court papers, the Obama administration argues that states are free to drop out of Medicaid, a joint federal-state program. Lawyers for the states counter that the program is too big to make dropping out a realistic option.

    In fact, however, some of the states involved in the lawsuit, including Texas, have begun discussions about pulling out of Medicaid in coming years. If they carried out the threat, it would undercut the states’ legal argument, but also undermine the aim of the law’s supporters to expand Medicaid.

    Judge Vinson in Florida has suggested he views the states’ argument on Medicaid as a stretch, while showing more sympathy toward the argument against the individual mandate.

    “I certainly expect us to prevail,” said David Rivkin, a lawyer for the plaintiffs in the Florida lawsuit, given what he called the “weakness” of the administration’s case.

    Backers of the law concede they may lose some of the lower-court decisions, but they say they will ultimately prevail.

    For both sides, the legal arguments are also a political tool.

    The Obama administration has stressed some popular provisions that would be thrown out with the rest of the law should higher courts ultimately rule in favor of the plaintiffs. One prevents insurers from denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, and the other requires insurers to charge all customers similar rates regardless of their health status.

    Republicans for their part are focusing on the individual insurance mandate as perhaps the least popular piece of the law. The GOP is treating the lawsuits as one prong in a strategy to sow public discontent with the law and, ultimately, help the party retake the White House in 2012.

  192. A small excerpt from a long article from Riverdaughter, apropos the discussion on this blog above:

    Which brings me to my final point, and I think I do have one.

    I’m getting fed up with reading stupid crap from African American journalists threatening to take the African American community with them if Obama doesn’t get a second term. If I were one of the millions of African Americans out of work and hurting during the Obama years, with no end in sight in his second term but more tearing apart of the social safety net, I’d be really offended by these people speaking for me. How insulting to think that someone would pass up a better candidate just because they have an insufficient amount of melanin in their skin. That’s what the likes of Colbert and Read are saying. That the single most important thing to African Americans when making a political decision is not whether the politician is going to help them get a job or put food on their plates but whether he has right skin color. It’s also insulting to women, who make up a far greater percentage of the Democratic base than African Americans and whose votes could be much more critical to the Democrats political prosperity in 2012. Next time there is an election year, Democrats won’t be able to pull that Roe shit because no woman in her right mind will believe them. And in the end, who cares? The Rpeublicans don’t want Roe rescinded. They get their voters to the polls with it.
    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/monday-planes-trains-and-the-obama-mcconnell-deal/

  193. holdthemaccountable
    December 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am
    Mrs. Smith: Yes, I was speculating in jest
    ————-
    Sorry I missed the humor, because a good laugh right about now would be most beneficial.
    ______________________________________

    holdthemaccountable
    December 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am
    Mrs. Smith: Yes, I was speculating in jest
    ————-
    Sorry I missed the humor, because a good laugh right about now would be most beneficial.
    ______________________________________

    Brownies, as are Cuban Cigars, have been added to the list of contraband Americans are forbidden to eat or bring into the country.

  194. Barack Obama faces Democrat tax rebellion and Sarah Palin’s verbal barbs

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01782/palin_1782361c.jpg

    Barack Obama was being assailed from all sides on Thursday night as his own party launched a rebellion in Congress and Sarah Palin ramped up her potential White House bid with a withering verbal assault on the American president.

    Democrats in the US House of Representatives refused to vote on a tax package that they said gave away too much money to the wealthy. The unanimous decision, taken at a heated closed doors meeting of the Democratic caucus, was a major blow to the White House, coming just days after the president announced that he had found agreement on a range of tax proposals with Republicans.

    Mr Obama’s aides had hoped that reaching a compromise would boost the president’s image as a strong and statesmanlike leader, but he now faces a party in revolt and another phase of messy negotiation that will further weaken his standing.

    Adding insult on one of the worst days of his presidency, Mrs Palin compared Mr Obama with Jimmy Carter, a Democrat who served one term and is regarded as one of the least successful US presidents in the post-war era.

  195. “Finally, one can only hope that the court takes cognizance of the fact that since this improvident piece of legislation was passed more than 200 waivers have been granted by the Obama administration to politically connected employers and unions which raises an argument that the application is arbitrary and capricious therefore violative of the due process clause.”

    ——-
    wbboei,

    I hope so too.

  196. The Hillary Clinton Factor

    By SHMUEL ROSNER
    12/13/2010

    What role will Clinton play in the future of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process? Our panel shows her great favor, but will it last?

    Interpreting Hillary Clinton’s Saban speech – the one in which she formulated her new path for the peace process (calling it new policy will be a stretch) – was not an easy fit. Neither for commentators nor even for news editors. Some assumed the main headline was Clinton’s rejection of “imposed solution”, others believed the headline was really her call on Israel to finally “deal with core issues.” But all observers generally agreed: Clinton is the new boss of the peace process. The envoy era is over, the White House has better, more urgent things to do. Clinton will now shoulder this burden of dealing with the reluctant Netanyahu and the hesitant Abbas.

    The Israel Factor had been following and ranking Clinton since the very beginning of this project. Our panel of experts ranked Clinton when she was still a candidate for the presidency (see why the panel wanted Clinton more than most other candidates here, somewhat complicated analysis of possible Clinton-McCain race can be seen here). And it ranked her fairly high, thinking she would be the best Democratic president from an Israeli perspective, and in many cases also thinking she’s “better for Israel” than Republican candidates.

    However, there was always some suspicion on the part of our panel when Clinton was involved. As I explained here: “Hillary Clinton is the most confusing candidate for people who follow the Israel Factor. Examining her numbers over the last year of ranking can be unpredictable, and even perplexing”. One reason for this? The panel was not sure whether Clinton is honestly sharing her views regarding Israel with the public or just playing the right politics for a Senator from New York and Presidential candidate. “Clinton, the panel argues, says all the right things from the Israeli perspective. The question remains if she will stick to her current positions if she becomes president. The panel was somewhat skeptical, giving Clinton a 3.125 out of 5, a notch above disbelief”.

    Now Clinton is handling the peace process, after two years in which she had her share of both Netanyahu-slamming and Netanyahu-praising. Does The Israel Factor panel of 2010 think she’s doing a fine job as Secretary of State? As you can see in our statistics page, Clinton is seen as much better than her boss, Obama, by the panel. This is true today, and was true a month ago (the question was: From 1 (bad for Israel) to 10 (good for Israel): Generally speaking, please rate the following people and institutions):

    cont.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=199215

  197. Sarah Palin is steppin out and packin HEAT! Woo-Hoo!

    Funny account from the UK-
    __________________________

    Sarah Palin accuses Barack and Michelle Obama of being unpatriotic

    Sarah Palin has accused Barack and Michelle Obama of being unpatriotic and suggested that they were racist.

    The attack is likely to deepen the impression that the former Alaska governor is (too divisive) a figure to win the presidency.

    In leaked extracts of her new book, Mrs Palin delves into the minefield of racial politics, arguing that the first African American US president is among those who regarded the conservative tea party movement as racially prejudiced and who thinks that “America is a fundamentally unjust and unequal country”.

    As proof, she dredged up a quote from a 2008 campaign speech in which Mrs Obama said “for the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country”.
    Mrs Palin went on to say: “I guess this shouldn’t surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s church listening to his rants against America and white people.”

    Mr Obama remains personally (un)popular despite his Democratic Party allies being heavily beaten in the recent midterm elections. His wife moreover is according to numerous polls the best-liked the political figure in the country, thanks to her support for military families and campaign against childhood obesity. (Thats it?)

    In America By Heart: Reflections on Family, Faith and Flag, which is published next week, Mrs Palin was choosing a line of attack against the First Lady that most other opponents of the president have abandoned long ago.

    She characterised the First Lady as only being proud “when her husband started winning elections”. In full context, Mrs Obama’s meaning was that she felt a surge of pride at the way young people were finding hope in the country’s future. (we found out soon enough her husband was perpetuating a pipedream and had no intention of creating a better America.)

    The former vice-presidential candidate’s second book is regarded as a launch pad for a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination, which Mrs Palin this week admitted she was “seriously considering”.

    Many Democrats think the president’s chances of winning re-election would improve vastly if Mrs Palin was his opponent.

    Vice-President Joe Biden had to stifle laughs when asked about the possibility of an Obama-Palin matchup on morning television yesterday.

    “I don’t think she could beat President Obama,” he said, “but she’s always underestimated, so I don’t think I should say any more”.

    Early reviewers have described Mrs Palin’s new book as mostly a fairly predictable paean to conservative American values.

    But it also contains a withering put-down of talent show contestants, particularly those on American Idol, and the “cult of self-esteem”, which she blames partly on Mr Obama.

    “No one they have encountered in their lives – from their parents to their teachers to their President – wanted them to feel bad by hearing the truth. So they grew up convinced that they could become big pop stars like Michael Jackson.”

    Her observations came without apparent irony, despite the fact that her own daughter Bristol is competing so ineptly in Dancing with the Stars that there are strong suspicions she has only stayed in contention because of the support of her mother’s fans voting from home. (So, what?)

    Mrs Palin herself has also begun broadcasting her own reality show about her family life and her home state.

  198. Clinton launches foundation

    December 13, 2010

    “A quality education is the key to solving our most pressing global challenges,” said former President Bill Clinton while speaking at the Dubai American Academy on Sunday, while launching the Varkey GEMS Foundation.

    The foundation, a not-for-profit charitable initiative, aims at impacting the lives of 10 million children globally and is part of GEMS Education.

    “Education opens a whole new world of opportunities and choices for millions of underprivileged children. The benefits from an educated child will affect not only the child itself, but his or her family and the wider community. The Varkey GEMS Foundation’s commitment will bring that opportunity to millions more children around the world,” Clinton added.

    According to Chairman of GEMS Education, Sunny Varkey, the Middle East will benefit from the foundation’s work in the area of scholarships. “The Varkey GEMS Foundation will provide thousands of scholarships and assistance to the most gifted, yet underprivileged children around the world and a number of those will be identified in the Middle East.”

    The foundation will focus on four key areas: scholarships for underprivileged children, teacher training, professional development and mentoring for school leaders and providing policy input through strategic partnerships, added Vikas Pota, CEO of the Foundation.

    GEMS Education already works in partnership with the Clinton Global Initiative, the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, Dubai Cares and Pratham.

    “The Varkey GEMS Foundation was established because we believe our charitable work needed to be more structured and strategic in order to meet our goal of impacting 100 underprivileged children for every child enrolled at a GEMS school,” Pota added.

    The event was attended by Sheikh Nahayan Bin Mabarak Al Nahayan, UAE Minister for Higher Education and Scientific Research and UAE Minister for Education, Humaid Al Qattami and other dignitaries.

    http://gulftoday.ae/portal/52121054-b72f-4621-b966-959b60b3c21e.aspx

  199. CNN

    WH just announced President will do local TV interviews today to sell the tax cut plan — affiliates in Columbus, Denver, Des Moines, Tampa

    Hmm Ohio, Colorado, Iowa and Florida are also … important 2012 states

    I guess he really is is going to lower himself lower than shit, he’s off his trolley.

  200. moon,

    Compared to the way Bill Clinton awed the media pool on Friday, I think bambi will fall very very short in comparison.

  201. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 11:36 am
    ——————

    After he got coached by BC on what to say. He must have watched that presser which he ran away from a 100 times to memorize the lines. Or do they allow a loaded teleprompter in these interviews, hidden from plain sight, of course?

  202. You know how the press hid FDR’s polio disability, the media is hiding Obama’s incompetence, a mental disability.

  203. Wonder if the media will ask him about what happened on Friday. Wonder also if he will diss Bill now in order to puff himself up.

  204. Jan, media are lapdogs and whores. Listen to Mara in that video I linked how she gushes over the brilliance of Obama on Friday.

  205. A year or so ago my partner “couldn’t stand” Sarah Palin. Wouldn’t even want to talk about her. Now, she has watched every ‘Sarah Palin’s Alaska’ with me and thinks she is “real” and “a nice person”. The biggest reason for this change of heart are the continued ridiculous attacks on her and her family. Do these people realize they are making a folk hero out of Sarah? Obviously not.

  206. The coming “Dream Act” showdown and Obama’s culpability

    By Suzanne Evovaldi, staff writer

    Protests, sit-ins, and street marches are in Rep. Luis Gutierrez’s battle plan this week as he threatens to go rogue to get the Dream Act passed. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are making one last stand for their lame duck action plan to ram through amnesty for millions of children of illegal aliens under the guise of granting college credits for Democrat votes.

    “To hear Gutierrez tell it Hispanic leaders are about to stage a full tilt campaign of direct action, like the African American civil rights movement of the l960′s,” says Daily Beast blogger Bryan Curtis. Gutierrez, another Chicago Way political player, is demanding the lame duckers make immigration reform happen now, or else “A Latino revolt” is in the offing reports Curtis.

    Latinos want what they want and they want it now. They see their movement as “no longer beholden to wavering Democrats; no longer beholden to Barack Obama!” Now with all of this set to kick off this week as the House looks to take up the Dream Act, operation checkmate is being war gamed by military planners wanting to save America as our third war breaks out along our Southern Border.

    Major General (ret) Paul Vallely, who co authored “Blood for our Future” with our web site producer Dr. Kevin “Coach” Collins, outlined the war plan for David Horowitz’s recent Restoration Weekend held in Palm Beach, FL.

    If the Federal Government will not execute this operational plan to secure our borders, then the people must insist that we do it for our own protection and…. .our economy.” General Vallely told those gathered that “we have at least one to two flights from Tehran into Venezuela every week, offloading arms, offloading agents of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. (Guess where their compasses point.)

    “Operation checkmate organizes three border task force groups in 3 operational bases-Texas, Arizona and Southern California,” he said. A 20 kilometer no fly zone, border task force groups, and a forward Black Ops maneuver with 5,000 helicopter units each, are being war gamed as Luis Gutierrez plans to take Congress rogue, and our esteemed DHS general Janet Napolitano tells us she has “everything with the border under control.”

    Am I missing a something here or what? Why are we letting our leaders delude us at every turn? Why is Barack Obama not under the threat of impeachment for failing to protect the American people?

    You can call this toll free number 1-866-220-0044 to tell Congress what you want done to the Dream Act.

    http://www.coachisright.com/the-coming-%e2%80%9cdream-act%e2%80%9d-showdown-and-obama%e2%80%99s-culpability/

  207. Update Breaking — Federal judge in Richmond rules individual mandate provision of health care law is unconstitutional.

  208. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Frankly, there is something seriously wrong with his memory and retention powers.

  209. wbboei,
    Wow, that was some article you posted from No Quarter about Sarah…hopefully someday Larry will tell us why his wife had to write fitness reports for 67 nurses….is this the next thing the health companies are going to want fit employees? Mo and her eat right America campaign will certainly delve into everybody being healthy and fit….seems like another ruler I’ve heard of before….didn’t he want everyone blonde haired, muscular and fit…Adolf Hitler???

  210. Judge Hudson found that the mandate “exceeds the constitutional boundaries of congressional power……no shit Sherlock.

  211. Hoyer: “House would like changes to tax-cut deal (but we’ll probably pass it)”…..roll over and play dead why don’t you.

  212. Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele is expected to announce he will drop out of the highly contested race to keep his post, multiple RNC sources told FoxNews.

    Fox News has confirmed Steele sent an e-mail to committee members Saturday night with the subject line, “conference call.”

    In the note, he asked members to join him “for a private conference call” Monday evening.

  213. If it is possible to respect someone you despise, or to despise someone you respect–whichever it is, then when it comes to the subject of Hillary hater Michael Goodwin, the honest answer is “I do.” He paints himself out for the sucker he is when he freely admits that which cannot be denied that in 2008 he was most assuredly an Obama shill. He redeems himself now, but only partially, by his statement that not all suckers are equal. PT Barnum made no such distinction, nor do I, because I remember what happened in the Oxbow Incident. But if it is repentance he wants, there are others who will give it to him. In the meantime, reformed whore Goodwin is willing to call the game on the Messiah, and there is some catharsis in that. But it will not end wars which are bankrupting us, nor will it restore a single American job. When you are an opinion maker as he is due diligence requires you not be swept along with the herd, but do the critical analysis which he failed to do when it counted.
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    MICHAEL GOODWIN: ‘Messiah’ Obama Has Only Himself to Blame
    By Michael Goodwin

    Published December 13, 2010

    Viewed with the long lens, the uncivil war between President Obama and lib eral Democrats is merely another example of the gradual awakening of Obamabots. The big story of the last two years is how millions of Americans who voted for him have concluded he’s not the man they thought he was.

    As a former supporter myself, I know the phenomenon too well. First you wince as he betrays some principle you thought he shared.

    It could be a fiscal issue, ethics or national security. Or you might have believed, as I did, he was serious about governing mostly from the middle.

    You overlook the breach once, twice, and by the third time, you face the disappointment. Your eyes and mind now open, disenchantment comes in waves. As the anger builds, it finally dawns on you that you were a sucker for your own hopes.

    Yet not all suckers are equal, which brings us back to the temper tantrums of the moment. “Liberals and other brats” describes what’s happening in Nancy Pelosi’s haunted House.

    It’s shocking to see the open profanity and mockery — “F- – k Obama” and taunting chants of “No we can’t” — coming from Dem members of Congress. But the temptation to sympathize with Obama should be resisted. He has only himself to blame.

    Messiahs either deliver, or they are abandoned and vilified. Having failed to deliver, Obama is now paying the price in terms he helped to shape.

    Indeed, his self-reverence and personal attacks on any and all critics mark him as the brewmeister for much of what is wrong with our politics. Payback is not just a bitch — it’s fair play.

    Obama’s grandiose promises — “our planet will begin to heal” — turned the 2008 campaign into a mutual fantasy society. His life story, race and rhetorical talent made him special, and cult-like status was conferred on those who “got” his greatness.

    The awakening began the instant he had to govern. For some, it’s the things he couldn’t get done — closing Gitmo, charming Iran, getting out of Iraq.

    For most, the problem is that the things he did haven’t worked. He busted the budget for a stimulus that didn’t stimulate, turned on Israel and other allies for no good reason and insisted on the historic health-care fiasco, which will take years to fix. There are so many ticking time bombs in it that even its authors are discovering unintended consequences — and it’s only started to take effect.

    The country’s response was a no-confidence vote in the midterms. Yet Obama still doesn’t accept the verdict, stumbling between excuses that belittle voters’ concerns.

    Worse, he’s declared that class warfare will be his campaign theme for 2012. He called Republicans “hostage takers” and “bomb throwers,” reflections of an immature and ideological mind that refuses to recognize any legitimacy in rival views. He would rather campaign on divisions than govern in tune with the majority consensus.

    That’s the rub in this whole spectacle — his reactions to the election and its consequences are almost identical to those of the crybaby House Dems.

    The only difference is in the details. He’s petulant but willing to make a temporary tax deal with the GOP on upper income brackets so he doesn’t get blamed for a hike that hits everyone. House Dems are petulant but would rather have a glorious flame-out that penalizes millions of workers than accept a two-year compromise.

    Both Obama and his party leaders were willing to defy the public for two years because they had full Washington control. And now they are at war.

    They deserve each other, and America deserves better.

  214. Mop, That is interesting. I often wondered if this leaking is not from our govt. itself (at least Obama). I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he wants to control/censor the net. His administration is getting scarier and scarier.

  215. Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax-

    I have some chicken soup made for you-
    —–
    I am just trying to ketch up on the posts and want you to know your e-soup has really helped, along with lots of Elderberry, @ work now and hope I really won this bug war. (Knock on wood.)

    Thx Mrs. S…I really wish I had someone to make me soup every now and then. ;-0

  216. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Mon, December 13, 2010 — 12:24 PM ET
    —–

    Federal Judge Invalidates Key Provision of Health Care Law

    A federal district judge in Virginia ruled on Monday that the
    keystone provision in the Obama health care law is
    unconstitutional, becoming the first court in the country to
    invalidate any part of the sprawling act and insuring that
    appellate courts will receive contradictory opinions from
    below.

    Judge Henry E. Hudson declined to freeze implementation of
    the law pending appeal, meaning that there should be no
    immediate effect of his decision. But the ruling is likely to
    create confusion among the public and further destabilize
    political support for the law.

    Judge Hudson wrote that the law’s central requirement that
    most Americans obtain health insurance exceeds the regulatory
    authority granted to Congress under the Commerce Clause of
    the Constitution. The insurance mandate is central because
    insurers say they cannot afford treatment for expensive
    chronic conditions unless healthy people have policies as
    well.

    Read More:
    http://www.nytimes.com?emc=na

  217. What Courage!

    “Judge Henry E. Hudson declined to freeze implementation of
    the law pending appeal, meaning that there should be no
    immediate effect of his decision.”

  218. Norma Desmond
    December 13th, 2010
    ———————-
    Lord knows I was not referring to you Norma Desmond. I was reacting to the journalistic tripe of the writer of that article. I no longer believe that candidates should be vetted. Since they are two wings of the same bird, we could abandon all these pretensions of democracy, and just hire a chimpanzee to flip a coin. My opinion changes if Hillary runs, of course, and I have some hope with Rubio, and Sarah, but the rest of them seem to be in the pocket of big money which leaves the American People sucking hind tit and too dumb to realize it. That is the saddest commentary of all. Like lambs to the slaughter they are.

  219. It is mindboggling how they ‘forgot’ to include a severability clause on it. Any lawyers on what may have happened..

  220. It is mindboggling how they ‘forgot’ to include a severability clause on it. Any lawyers on what may have happened..
    ——————————————-
    I expect they wanted to create a Hobson’s choice for the court, by making it impossible to invalidate any part of this law without invalidating the whole thing–which they assumed no court would dare do. There are hundreds of goodies in that bill for Obama cronies, and the draftsmen many of whom were lobbyist wanted to ensure their pork survived when it was discovered. That is what Pelosi meant when she said you will have to pass this bill to find out what is in it. Do not assume for one minute that with hundreds of Philadelphia lawyers involved in this process, nobody considered a severability clause. It was considered and summarily rejected for the reasons stated above. There is a parallel tactic prosecutors use in criminal law–all or nothing to force a binary decision and preclude a lesser verdict. Welcome to the world of gamesmanship.

  221. draftsmen many of whom were lobbyist wanted to ensure their pork survived when it was discovered. That is what Pelosi meant when she said you will have to pass this bill to find out what is in it.
    ********
    I don’t think that any member of Congress knew or much less understood what was in the law. As you point out it was written by the “Big Health” Lobbyists in coordination with a select few Congressional “staffers”. As best that I can tell, the person directing this mess was/is Nancy Ann DeParle. From her bio, she is an order of magnitude more intelligent than her boss or any member of Congress. She is likely the “minder” selected by Big Health to make sure that they got their ROI for their $200+ million in bribes for campaign funds and ad $$ for Obama “making history”. Whatever the ultimate fate of Obamacare, the passage of this disastrous POS law was the ultimate purpose for the Health Care Bidnesses.

  222. BAD PRODUCT NEEDS EXTRA ADVERTISING

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/12/AR2010121203666.html

    10-figure reelection campaign could be a reality for Obama
    ================

    By Chris Cillizza
    Monday, December 13, 2010

    Will President Obama be the first billion-dollar man?

    He raised and spent $750 million in the 2008 campaign, and there is already speculation that the cash-collection operation for his 2012 reelection bid will crest the once-unimaginable sum of $1 billion raised. (That’s a one and nine zeros. Nine!)

    “It’s not unrealistic at all, given the amount raised and spent in 2008 and the amount Republican interest groups and 527s will spend against him,” said a former Obama administration official.

    A look at the trend line of fundraising for presidential candidates over the past several elections suggests a doubling effect every four years.

    In 2008, Obama raised an eye-popping $745 million, while Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) collected $368 million. Total spending, including third-party candidates, amounted to $1.3 billion, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

    Four years earlier, President George W. Bush brought in $367 million while Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) collected $328 million. Total spending in 2004 was about half that of 2008’s: $718 million.

    The key difference between 2004 and 2008 was that Obama became the first person to opt out of public financing for the general election since the adoption of the current campaign finance system in the wake of the Watergate scandal.

    Obama’s decision – announced in June 2008 to much fanfare – proved close to decisive as his massive fundraising over the last five months of the campaign allowed him to overwhelm McCain on television in every swing state.

    Given Obama’s success after forgoing public financing in the 2008 general-election campaign, it’s a virtual certainty that neither the president nor the Republican nominee will participate in that system for the 2012 general election.

    Three other factors suggest that the idea of Obama as a billion-dollar candidate in 2012 is not so far-fetched.

    First, he collected $750 million while running as a senator. He’ll now be running as a president, which should allow him to clean up financially to an even greater extent, thanks to the power of incumbency.

    Second, the continued development and maturation of Internet fundraising over the past four years means that the $500 million – yes, you read that right – that Obama raised online in 2008 could well be topped in 2012, noted Ben Ginsberg, a top Republican lawyer who served as an adviser to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney’s 2008 presidential bid.

    Third, the growth of a shadow Republican Party of outside groups – epitomized by American Crossroads, which spent $70 million on the 2010 midterms – should help fuel Democratic donations to Obama. (It remains unclear whether a Democratic-aligned outside group – or groups – will form to siphon off some of those donations.)

    While the pieces are clearly in place for Obama to crest the $1 billion fundraising mark in 2012, some skepticism remains – even among his supporters – about the president’s ability to reach that lofty mark.

    One Obama fundraiser points to the difference between 2012 and 2008, when the absence of an incumbent candidate meant open primaries on both sides: “We will have very few events that drive online spikes, and the president probably won’t do as many events as even Bush in 2003 and 2004.”

  223. Health Care Law Ruled Unconstitutional

    nytimes.com/2010/12/14/health/policy/14health.html?_r=1&hp

    Health Care Law Ruled Unconstitutional
    By KEVIN SACK
    Published: December 13, 2010
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    CloseLinkedinDiggMixxMySpaceYahoo! BuzzPermalink A federal district judge in Virginia ruled on Monday that the keystone provision in the Obama health care law is unconstitutional, becoming the first court in the country to invalidate any part of the sprawling act and ensuring that appellate courts will receive contradictory opinions from below.

    Judge Henry E. Hudson, who was appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush, declined the plaintiff’s request to freeze implementation of the law pending appeal, meaning that there should be no immediate effect on the ongoing rollout of the law. But the ruling is likely to create confusion among the public and further destabilize political support for legislation that is under fierce attack from Republicans in Congress and in many statehouses.

    In a 42-page opinion issued in Richmond, Va., Judge Hudson wrote that the law’s central requirement that most Americans obtain health insurance exceeds the regulatory authority granted to Congress under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. The insurance mandate is central to the law’s mission of covering more than 30 million uninsured because insurers argue that only by requiring healthy people to have policies can they afford to treat those with expensive chronic conditions.

    The judge wrote that his survey of case law “yielded no reported decisions from any federal appellate courts extending the Commerce Clause or General Welfare Clause to encompass regulation of a person’s decision not to purchase a product, not withstanding its effect on interstate commerce or role in a global regulatory scheme.”

    Judge Hudson is the third district court judge to reach a determination on the merits in one of the two dozen lawsuits filed against the health care law. The others — in Detroit and Lynchburg, Va. — have upheld the law. Lawyers on both sides said the appellate process could last another two years before the Supreme Court settles the dispute.

    The opinion by Judge Hudson, who has a long history in Republican politics in northern Virginia, continued a partisan pattern in the health care cases. Thus far, judges appointed by Republican presidents have ruled consistently against the Obama administration while Democratic appointees have found for it.

    That has reinforced the notion — fueled by the White House — that the lawsuits are as much a political assault as a constitutional one. The Richmond case was filed by Virginia’s attorney general, Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, a Republican, and all but one of the 20 attorneys general and governors who filed a similar case in Pensacola, Fla., are Republicans. Other lawsuits have been filed by conservative law firms and interest groups.

    The two cases previously decided by district courts are already before the midlevel courts of appeal, with the Detroit case in the Sixth Circuit in Cincinnati and the Lynchburg case in the Fourth Circuit in Richmond.

    The Justice Department, which is defending the statute, is also considering whether to appeal Judge Hudson’s ruling to the Fourth Circuit, which hears cases from Virginia and four other states. That would leave that court to consider opposite rulings handed down over two weeks in courthouses situated only 116 miles apart.

    The Richmond ruling is the latest in a string of recent setbacks for the Obama administration, following the Democrats’ loss of the House in the midterm elections and last week’s intraparty mutiny over Mr. Obama’s agreement to extend the Bush era tax cuts.

    But administration officials, who have been bracing for an adverse ruling, emphasized that Judge Hudson’s opinion was just one among several. They said they maintained high confidence that the law eventually would be upheld, and expressed frustration that negative rulings were attracting more attention than affirming ones.

    The officials stressed that the judge’s decision to not enjoin the law would defer any actual impact for years. They noted that the insurance requirement does not even take effect until 2014, when the Supreme Court presumably will have ruled.

    The administration has said that if that provision eventually falls, related insurance reforms would necessarily collapse with it, most notably the ban on insurer exclusions of applicants with pre-existing health conditions. But officials said other innovations, including a vast expansion of Medicaid eligibility and the sale of subsidized insurance policies through state-based exchanges, would withstand even a Supreme Court ruling against the insurance mandate.

    “It’s our strongly held view that those provisions survive” in judicial decisions invalidating the insurance requirement, one administration official said, speaking anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

    However, even state officials who support the new law said Monday’s ruling would reinforce calls by many Republican governors and lawmakers to slow down its implementation.

    “I think you might see some air taken out of the balloon nationwide,” said Jason A. Helgerson, the Medicaid director in Wisconsin, which is about to transition from Democratic to Republican control of the executive and legislative branches.

    Mr. Helgerson said states still ignore looming federal deadlines at their peril. For instance, if states do not make adequate progress toward setting up their insurance exchanges by January 2013, the federal government can take control.

    Judge Hudson, who previously was best known for sentencing the N.F.L. quarterback Michael Vick to 23 months for dog fighting, had telegraphed his leanings in a series of hearings and preliminary opinions. But the ruling was nonetheless striking given that only nine months ago, prominent law professors were dismissing the constitutional claims as just north of frivolous.

    The case centers on whether Congress has authority under the Commerce Clause to compel citizens to buy a commercial product – namely health insurance – in the name of regulating an interstate economic market. Plaintiffs in the lawsuits argue there effectively would be no limits on federal power, and that the government could force people to buy American cars or, as Judge Hudson remarked at one hearing, “to eat asparagus.”

    The Supreme Court’s position on the Commerce Clause has evolved through four signature cases over the last 68 years, with three decided since 1995. Two of the opinions established broad powers to regulate even personal commercial decisions that may influence a broader economic scheme. But other cases have limited regulation to “activities that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce.”

    A major question, therefore, has been whether the income tax penalties levied against those who do not obtain health insurance are designed to regulate “activity” or, as Virginia’s solicitor general, E. Duncan Getchell Jr., has argued, “inactivity” that is beyond Congress’ reach.

    Justice Department lawyers have responded that individuals cannot opt out of the medical market, and that the act of not obtaining insurance is an active decision to pay for health care out of pocket. They say that such decisions, taken in the aggregate, shift billions of dollars in uncompensated care costs to governments, hospitals and the privately insured.

    The ruling is a political score for Mr. Cuccinelli, who filed the lawsuit on his own rather than join the Pensacola case. It upstages a major hearing in Pensacola, Fla., scheduled for Thursday before Judge Roger Vinson of Federal District Court, who is expected to rule early next year. Like Judge Hudson, Judge Vinson has expressed reservations about the insurance mandate.

    Mr. Cuccinelli, who was elected in 2009, has said he filed on his own because Virginia passed a law this year aimed at nullifying the federal insurance requirement, giving the commonwealth a distinct constitutional claim. Others attribute the strategy to political ambition, suggesting that Mr. Cuccinelli did not want to share the spotlight and knew he could exploit the accelerated pace of judging in Richmond’s “rocket docket” to raise his profile.

    Mr. Cuccinelli filed the lawsuit minutes after President Obama signed the law on March 23, and has been discussing the case since on cable television shows and before research groups. He follows each hearing and ruling with a news conference.

    Even before Monday’s ruling, Mr. Cuccinelli and Gov. Robert F. McDonnell of Virginia, also a Republican, were seeking an agreement with the Justice Department to bypass the Court of Appeals and file for expedited review by the Supreme Court. That would have the effect of further marginalizing the Pensacola case, and the politicians bringing it. The Supreme Court rarely takes such requests, and the Justice Department has not publicly expressed an opinion.

  224. Obama’s tax windfall for the rich
    10 December 2010

    The deal worked out between President Obama and the Republicans to extend Bush-era tax cuts for the richest Americans is the latest demonstration of the dictatorship America’s financial aristocracy wields over the government and its policies.

    [We have been saying this same thing for months on end.. Obama is not incompetent, mentally deranged or plain dumb.- He has been awarded the WH as a perch to do for the elites what they wish to be done. That is, increase and preserve their wealth, at the expense of impoverishing the Middle class. It’s a simple thought that has to be maintained.]

    The agreement will extend $150 billion in income tax savings to the wealthy over the next two years and hundreds of billions more in the form of cuts to taxes on corporate profits, capital gains, and the estates of multimillionaires.

    Obama has capitulated to the demands of the financial elite, expressed openly in the solid Republican support for continuing the tax cut for the wealthy, despite large Democratic majorities in both houses of the outgoing “lame duck” Congress.

    He has sought to justify this latest handout to the rich by claiming that he secured major concessions, including the continuation of tax breaks for the lower tax brackets, a 13-month extension of federal unemployment benefits, and a one-year cut in Social Security payroll taxes.

    (which will actually result in a tax increase for the bottom 40 percent of US households when balanced against the expiration of the current Making Work Pay tax credit).

    Obama claims that he reluctantly signed off on the deal because of political realities. He had no choice, he argues, since he could not get the Republicans to budge and the votes were simply not there to extend just the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He was supposedly motivated purely by concern for the well-being of the American people and driven by his single-minded focus on creating jobs, both of which would suffer if the tax cuts for families earning under $250,000 expired on January 1.

    This is yet one more demonstration of cynicism and contempt for the intelligence of the people by the man whose campaign slogan was “Yes we can.” Whom does Obama think he is kidding?

    There was never serious doubt that the tax cuts for the rich would be extended. Plenty of signals were sent by prominent Democrats in this direction before November. However, as a December 7 article in the Washington Post spells out in some detail, the decision to do a deal with the Republicans on the tax cut for the rich was finalized following the Democrats’ debacle in the mid-term election, as part of a calculated turn by the Obama White House even further to the right.

    “President Obama’s willingness to extend all of the George W. Bush-era tax cuts is part of what White House officials say is a deliberate strategy,” the Post wrote.

    “The strategy emerged from hours of post-election meetings among senior administration officials who, after poring over returns, exit polls and mid-term history, have determined that the loss of independent voters who supported Democrats in 2008 cost the party dozens of races this year,” the Post continued.

    As exit polls and other data have shown, more critical to the Democratic defeat than the swing of so-called “independent” voters was the huge decline in the turnout of critical voters—youth, minorities workers, professionals—who had turned out in large numbers for Obama two years before. ABC News calculated that 29 million Obama voters from 2008 did not go to the polls last month. This collapse in the Democratic vote was the result of disillusionment and anger over the abandonment by Obama of his campaign promises and the right-wing policies he has pursued since taking office.

    The invocation of the need to win back “independents” is code language for moving further to the right in order to placate not the voters, but the financial aristocracy. In fact, polls have shown that wide majorities among both Democrats and independents oppose an extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy.

    In the lead-up to the election, Wall Street mounted a media campaign to register its dissatisfaction with certain elements of the administration’s policies—first and foremost, Obama’s public stance in opposition to extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Leading figures who had previously supported Obama, such as JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon, began to criticize the White House for “unfairly” blaming the banks for the economic crisis, and the US Chamber of Commerce launched a multimillion-dollar ad campaign in support of the Republicans.

    Even before the election, the White House was discreetly signaling that it had received the message, but after the vote it moved quickly and in earnest to reassure the banking and corporate elite that it would do nothing to restrain their profit-making while cracking down harder on social spending and the conditions of the working class.

    The agreement to extend the tax cuts for the rich is only the beginning of this process. On both sides of the political aisle, among Republicans and well as Democrats, tax boondoggles for the wealthy, cuts in vital social programs, wage freezes and reductions are presented as being motivated by a determination to create jobs.

    The supposed concern over jobs is a fraud. Both parties tacitly welcome high unemployment as useful for driving down wages and increasing the exploitation of the workforce. Even as unemployment has continued to rise, corporate profits have soared and the stock market has roared ahead.

    In the surreal world of US politics, measures that line the pockets of the rich—the Obama-Republican tax deal included—are “jobs creators.” But any effort to directly create jobs—for example, using the $150 billion the deal earmarks for the rich for public works and infrastructure projects—is rejected out of hand, by Obama and both parties.

    What is perhaps most sinister about the agreement is that its addition of an estimated $900 billion to the federal deficit will be used to demand new cuts in any form of government spending that benefits the working class. It is a very safe bet that in his forthcoming budget proposals and State of the Union address Obama will demand rapid implementation of many of the proposals coming from the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

    The commission, appointed by Obama, approved in its majority a plan that would: cut Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare; lay off government workers by the tens of thousands; impose new taxes on employee health care benefits and consumer items; remove tax credits that largely benefit working class people. But for the rich, the commission proposed cuts to the high-end income tax rate and corporate tax rate of as much as one third, and the removal of taxes on corporate profits earned overseas.

    In his press conference the day after the announcement of the tax cut deal, Obama significantly pointed to the need for “tax reform” as well as deficit reduction.

    These policies of social plunder will have the most devastating consequences. But they are making clear the basic class divisions in the US—and indeed all over the world. In every country, the working class is facing brutal attacks by governments demanding that it pay the price for the failure of capitalism.

    The Obama administration is exposing the reality of the Democratic Party as an instrument of the financial elite, no less than the Republicans. Workers must break from this party and build a mass movement fighting to break the grip of the financial elite and establish a workers’ government, as part of the fight for socialism internationally.

    [precisely!]

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/dec2010/pers-d10.shtml

    (ht/)Tom Eley

  225. Good to see we have some shitkickin’ women on the blog…we will need it against the Jackboots when Hillary runs for President, AGAIN!

    I have it in my blood too. 😉

  226. The “key” words with the health care ruling are:

    “Judge Henry E. Hudson declined to freeze implementation of the law pending appeal, meaning that there should be no immediate effect of his decision.”

    Litigation can be dragged out for a decade which is the “end of life” for Obamacare anyway. The Health care industry has invested too much in this law to want to see it go under before 2020. They will get several trillion $$ in additional cash flow over the next 7-8 years, selling “junk” health insurance associated with the $650 billion in Fed. subsidies.

  227. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele is expected to announce he will drop out of the highly contested race to keep his post, multiple RNC sources told FoxNews.

    Fox News has confirmed Steele sent an e-mail to committee members Saturday night with the subject line, “conference call.”

    ———-
    I’m not a fan of Steele, but then again, I don’t like many Rethugs…

    I bet he is being shoved under the bus because he supported the tea party conservatives and the big Rethug boyz didn’t like it.
    Maybe they put him in to win over the AAs with Baracko’s ‘win’ and now they want someone more ‘party’ beholdin’?

  228. Shadowfax
    December 13th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    I’m glad you’re feeling better, Shadow and so soon. My cold was going into it’s third week. I couldn’t stand it any longer and went to the Urgent Care Clinic. The Doc prescribed Levaquin 750mg, a tablet a day for 10 days. I couldn’t make it past the 3rd day because of the side effects. After I looked the drug up on the internet, it was actually frightening-

  229. “The judge wrote that his survey of case law “yielded no reported decisions from any federal appellate courts extending the Commerce Clause or General Welfare Clause to encompass regulation of a person’s decision not to purchase a product, not withstanding its effect on interstate commerce or role in a global regulatory scheme.”
    _______________________

    By inference, the judge’s ruling might also abrogate the IRS from enforcement of the HCR mandate including penalties of $2500+ for the uninsured and attaching a lien to their homes- if they are lucky enough to have one after surviving the housing debacle. yes?

  230. “After I looked the drug up on the internet, it was actually frightening-”
    ******
    A lot of possible side effects with that class of antibiotics. An acquaintance was on it about 6 months ago and ended up with a ruptured Achilles tendon.

  231. Mrs Smith: “….Workers must break from this party and build a mass movement fighting to break the grip of the financial elite and establish a workers’ government, as part of the fight for socialism internationally.

    [precisely!]”

    Speaking of socialists, go take a look at Tarpley’s “Emergency Program – Stop the Depression” in the red box at the top of his site. I’d post it here, but it’s 1400 words…!

  232. Could not make it up

    Kerry, who ran against Bush tax cuts in ’04, now joining colleague Brown in supporting Obama tax compromise.

    Another Kerry i was against it before i was for it.

  233. Mrs. S.

    I’m glad you’re feeling better, Shadow and so soon.

    ——
    I am fighting it, but so far…I am winning the war.
    I credit it to Elderberry. Tastes yummy and seems to help me, at least so far. I am re-exposed at work on an hourly basis, and my son is still getting over it, so hopefully I will not get it- full blast. Fingers crossed.
    Sorry to hear it knocked you down Mrs. Smith and maybe you should try what I take, it is natural, a little expensive but helps you get over colds and virus faster…
    http://www.sambucolusa.com/?gclid=CNCO8euD6qUCFQwCbAodtX7qZQ

  234. Closing paragraphs of Congressman-Elect Allen West’s Weekly Wrap-up

    What I want everyone to know about me is that you should never thank me for doing that which is right.
    I live by a simple credo, which was the motto of the 2d Battalion, 20th Field Artillery Regiment, which I commanded, “Duty Not Reward”. I shall live up to every expectation of being a recipient of that honor bestowed upon me, so help me God.

    In closing, it is becoming apparent to Americans that this idea of “lame duck” Congress is very disconcerting. I believe that as we go forward, we should revisit this practice, as we cannot afford to have individuals weigh in on critical issues for our country, while they are no longer stakeholders in the decisions they make. Once the voting electorate has repudiated their direct representative through ballot referendum, they should most expeditiously depart.

    And yes, that includes me as well, if I fail my constituency. No matter what, you can rest assured I would never walk off the stage at my own briefing and abdicate my role as a leader to anyone.

    Steadfast and Loyal,

    Allen

  235. All my children are allergic to Levaquin and I get a terrible burning in my gut when I take it. I no longer allow the Dr. to prescribe anything that hasn’t been on the market for at least 7 years….you never know now what the heck they are putting in this medicine.

  236. Obama Signs Child Nutrition Bill Into Law as Part of Anti-Obesity Push
    WASHINGTON — Thousands more children would get into school-based meal programs and those lunches and dinners would become more nutritious under a bill President Obama signed into law Monday, part of an administration-wide effort to combat childhood obesity. … The $4.5 billion measure would expand free school meals for the needy and give the government power to decide what kinds of foods may be sold in schools. The legislation also increases the federal reimbursement for free school lunches by 6 cents a meal at a time when many school officials say they can’t afford to provide the meals. The new money also will allow 20 million additional after-school meals to be served annually in all 50 states. Most states now only provide money for after-school snacks.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/13/obama-signing-child-nutrition-law/?test=latestnews

    give[s] the government power to decide what kinds of foods may be sold in schools.

  237. Shadowfax
    December 13th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    Mrs. S.

    Shadow, I’m a bit gunshy after last winter trying to fight the thing myself with conventional remedys. I ended up with Strep Pneumonia and in septic shock because the strep absorbs all the oxygen from your vital organs. When my heart stopped, I coded twice within half an hour. The ICU Nurse said no one ever comes back a second time…It was the talk of the hospital.

    A Minister, a Rabbi and a Priest all stopped by to bless me. Each one said, there must be something important you are meant to do- you haven’t accomplished yet… The recovery took a full 6 months.

  238. So….Obama is “open” to opt-out for states in HRC?

    WASHINGTON — Gov.-elect Nikki Haley challenged President Obama over his landmark health insurance law Thursday in a candid, personal exchange in front of Cabinet members and newly elected governors from across the country but away from reporters.

    In an exchange recounted by Haley and confirmed by White House aides, Obama rejected Haley’s request to repeal the health care bill – but said he’d consider letting states opt out of its mandates if they ran exchange programs, banned insurance firms from denying coverage of pre-existing conditions and enabled people to pool together for better rates.

    Read more: http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/12/03/1847424/obama-haley-go-head-to-head.html#ixzz181kWeJ3L

  239. worrying about illegals who can do what former illegals have done… start the application process and go through the existing system.

    ==================

    Aiui, there IS no application process in the existing system for children brought here when their parents came illegally.

    That is the whole point of the original DREAM act which McCain sponsored for years. To set up such a process they can go through.

    Lord knows what Obama may have added to the current bill, though.

  240. Mrs. Smith,
    I agree about the gunshy stuff….the longer you stay away from Doctors….the longer you live! LOL! My dad is 87 and is on no medications….and hates to go to the Doctor! He says they just want his money! Of coarse he has insurance, but he hates to give them any money! I think thats pretty funny because his only daughter and all his grandchildren work in the profession!

  241. Mrs. Smith,
    A Minister, a Rabbi and a Priest all stopped by to bless me. Each one said, there must be something important you are meant to do- you haven’t accomplished yet
    —————————————————

    I agree, you have to get Hillary as Potus in the WH….that’s your mission that you have not completed yet!

  242. I think Rahm has scuppered himself, total inconsistentcy.

    Rahm Emanuel claimed part-year residency in ‘09

    When Rahm Emanuel originally filed his 2009 Illinois tax return, he indicated he was only a “part-year resident’’ of the state that year, since he had moved to Washington D.C. to serve as President Obama’s chief of staff.

    But after he decided to return to Chicago to run for mayor this fall — and after several people challenged whether he was eligible to run based on the fact that he hadn’t lived in the city for a full-year prior to the Feb. 2 election — he filed an amended return , according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

    “The original return’s statements regarding part-year residency were not accurate,” Emanuel and his wife wrote in a return filed Nov. 24. “The amended returns make clear that we were full-year residents of Illinois in 2009. … We are also full-year residents of Illinois in 2010.”

  243. confloyd
    December 13th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    I agree, you have to get Hillary as Potus in the WH….that’s your mission that you have not completed yet!
    _____________________-

    Funny enough, that thought did cross my mind- 😉

  244. Tax deal gains necessary 60 votes in Senate to move forward; vote is still open — NBC

    Votes against tax deal so far: Bingaman, Feingold, Leahy, Gillibrand, Sanders, Udall (CO)

  245. moononpluto
    December 13th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    I think Rahm has scuppered himself, total inconsistentcy.
    __________________

    Back to the Ballet for him-

  246. Tax deal gains necessary 60 votes in Senate to move forward; vote is still open — NBC
    —————–Spare me the faux drama. The whole damned thing is rigged.

  247. confloyd
    December 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    I agree about the gunshy stuff….the longer you stay away from Doctors….the longer you live!
    ___________________

    agreed!

  248. Wbboei,
    I agree, the whole thing is rigged….they probably laugh their asses off at the bar….these folks have learned to play to the camera. Disgusting!

  249. Gillebrand voted against the tax deal, hmmmm, hmmmm! Now that is interesting! Hillary’s gal voted against it, hmmmm!

  250. So Obamacare is unconstitutional AND fiscally unsustainable — quite a two-fer-one!
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    But any state that wants to can opt out, and so can any company or union who donates to the Obama campaign. On those facts, would the refusal of an individual who is not a state and not connected be within his or her rights in refusing to participate as well, claiming it violates either their religion, or if they are not a believer, then their common sense or the Equal Protection clause? The only thing universal about Obamacare is it is not universal and the exceptions swallow the rule. And that would be a contradiction if it did not emanate from Obama himself who is a contradiction in his own right, so much so that it is not unreasonable to suggest in 2012 and again in 2016 he will run against Obamacare. No, that is not a typo, he has got Justice Breyer working on ways to get around the two term limit since it cramps his style to say nothing of his ego.

  251. Holy smokes Mrs. Smith, yes – you are right, don’t monkey with the alternatives when you get seriously ill. The stuff I mentioned is only for the common cold or flu that goes around, not when they go way off the rails.

    Glad you are up an kickin’ now.

  252. “On those facts, would the refusal of an individual who is not a state and not connected be within his or her rights in refusing to participate as well, claiming it violates either their religion.”
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    That caveat is already included in the HCR Bill. Just as it exists for the TSA Scans. Muslims are not obligated to be screened or subject to pat-downs.

    Discrimination? Oh, no- although the WTC was hit by planes manned by (radical) Muslims.

  253. It’s disappointing the Republicans are going to be part of the Congressional criminals. After we thought they would do their duty and extricate Obama from the WH-
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    That is why it is crucial to grasp the distinction between conservatives and establishment Republicans. I happen to agree with Tony Blankley that there will come a point where the American People will in fact revolt against both parties for burying them alive, on the directive of the elites. As Justice Poser says, I am not a forecaster–what form that revolt may take remains to be seen. I hope it is peaceful. All they need to do is leave Obama to his own devices, and throw a banana peel or two in his path and he will self destruct. That much I am confident of. I could see the direction of the wind when they settled for so little in this tax bill, and accepted a stimulus which they pretend to oppose.

  254. When the masses figure out what they’ve done (elites), there will be a revolt, no doubt about it! People are just so use to Big Media telling them what is wrong and they believe it….soon there will no way for them not to understand what is happening!

  255. Tax deal gains necessary 60 votes in Senate to move forward; vote is still open — NBC
    —————–Spare me the faux drama. The whole damned thing is rigged.
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    Most obviously for the past ten years. The theater productions just change. Dems, always with a lot of drama and the excuse we need more Dems in Congress, never could stop the corporate/elite agenda. Past two years, drama by both parties, rethugs call Dems socialist but two or three designated rethugs are assigned to get the law through the Senate; Dems, same ploy except it’s the damn Blue Dogs, etc.. etc. etc.

  256. “So Obamacare is unconstitutional AND fiscally unsustainable — quite a two-fer-one!”
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    The news elaborated somewhat on the Judge’s decision. Apparently, the geniuses in Congress used the wrong depts as the reason for crafting the bill. The Dept of Commerce and General Welfare do not warrant a mandate for HC Insurance. They don’t have the authority for a mandate.. 🙂 🙂 ..

    Probably should have used the Health Dept and Homeland Security as the foundation for the HC Bill…

    This is definately a major headache for Obama if this is true.

  257. I should add that the most obvious “Show” was the health care scam; especially the “Public option”. The Public Option that was “offered” was itself a scam but the wailing of the faux-gressive and signing petitions,etc. “but for the damn Blue Dogs, Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, etc. etc. we could have had the pony”…blah..blah,
    Other than the big hint of 26 WH meeting with Health exec to finalize the deal, Daschle said “public option” was never a serious consideration. But the Obots still think it would have been rainbows and unicorns except for the ra*8st blue Dogs.

  258. The evening news said, the decision that was reached stating the Dept of Commerce has the right to regulate activity but they do not have the authority to regulate **inactivity** meaning we cannot be forced to buy (commerce) Health Insurance. ( as in having the IRS enforce penalties for refusing to buy Health Insurance.)

    OMG- this is turning into a 3 ring circus!

  259. Daschle said “public option” was never a serious consideration. But the Obots still think it would have been rainbows and unicorns except for the ra*8st blue Dogs.

    ———
    Yup, the messiah was promising free goodies for all his little airheads.

    Now all they have after all their donations and thuggery is empty Kool-aid packages and false hopes of value.

    Move over, millions of obots are being jammed under the bus…

  260. It’s hard to believe with so many lawyers in Congress no one realized or said Commerce and General Welfare isn’t the way to go-

  261. Sources tell Fox News the embattled GOP chief (Steele) is gearing up to run for another term, after earlier reports that he would call it quits…

  262. decision that was reached stating the Dept of Commerce has the right to regulate activity but they do not have the authority to regulate **inactivity** meaning we cannot be forced to buy (commerce) Health Insurance. ( as in having the IRS enforce penalties for refusing to buy Health Insurance.)

    ==============

    As some judge(?) said, they can’t call it interstate commerce because:

    1. refusing to buy is refusing commerce
    2. insurance can’t be sold across state lines anyway

  263. Move over, millions of obots are being jammed under the bus…
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    Obama needs a bus a mile wide and 10 miles long.

  264. Mrs. Smith
    December 13th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    Shadowfax
    December 13th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    I’m glad you’re feeling better, Shadow and so soon. My cold was going into it’s third week. I couldn’t stand it any longer and went to the Urgent Care Clinic. The Doc prescribed Levaquin 750mg, a tablet a day for 10 days. I couldn’t make it past the 3rd day because of the side effects. After I looked the drug up on the internet, it was actually frightening-
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    I have all my doctors note on my case file that I am allergic to Levaquin because the side effects are so potent. Of course, my family doctor tried to send me home with Tequin in a plain brown bag so I didn’t know which antibiotic she had given me, so now I say I’m allergic to all ‘quin’ antibiotics. Not really allergic but can’t handle it. You’d be surprised how many doctors try to get me to take it anyway. I hate doctors.

  265. I don’t support Obamacare which is basically a Republican plan….. inefficient, complicated and expensive, designed to keep insurers and pharma rich. However, our heallth insurance costs will not go down until everyone pays. Those who don’t pay get care anyway…but at taxpayer ecpense thru medicaid etc.

    If we don’t have a public option and the coverage mandate is shut down, they should pass legislation so that those who choose not to pay receive only emergency care and are denied medicaid for anything beyond. Everyone has to pay if everyone is goping to be treated….otherwise those who do pay are being unfairly “taxed” for those who don’t.

  266. ABC News has learned that Richard Holbrooke, the US Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, has died.

    On Friday, Holbrooke was rushed to the hospital with a torn aorta. He went through more than 20 hours of surgery. Earlier this evening, speaking at the US State Department, President Obama sang Holbrooke’s praises and called him “a tough son of a gun.”

    Holbrooke, 69, was a former ambassador to the United Nations and served as chief negotiator at the Dayton Peace Accords, which ended the war in Bosnia.

    The New Yorker’s George Packer wrote a nice story about Holbrooke last year, which you can read HERE.

    -Jake Tapper

    ……………………………

    May he rest in peace.

  267. I knew he was gonna pass after the press started referring to him yesterday as “with family”, political translation for not going to make it.

  268. If we don’t have a public option and the coverage mandate is shut down, they should pass legislation so that those who choose not to pay receive only emergency care and are denied medicaid for anything beyond.

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    Hillary’s method for ‘enforcing’ her mandate was that when someone came in for care (presumably at an ER) the staff would enroll him in whatever plan was best for him. So I assume that this first visit would be more or less free, but he would then be paying his ‘plan’ for future needs.

    Of course this was in her proposal of multiple ‘health plans’ to choose from.

    Her idea was that people who couldn’t afford to pay anything would get subsidies to pay their premiums (or the govt would pay the premiums direct). So the taxpayers do it either way.

  269. I don’t support Obamacare which is basically a Republican plan….. inefficient, complicated and expensive, designed to keep insurers and pharma rich. However, our heallth insurance costs will not go down until everyone pays. Those who don’t pay get care anyway…but at taxpayer ecpense thru medicaid etc.

    If we don’t have a public option and the coverage mandate is shut down, they should pass legislation so that those who choose not to pay receive only emergency care and are denied medicaid for anything beyond. Everyone has to pay if everyone is goping to be treated….otherwise those who do pay are being unfairly “taxed” for those who don’t.
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    That is the fundamental problem and all of the p*ssing and moaning about socialized medicine, etc. isn’t going to change the fundamental problem of delivering health care. The major effect of Obama-care is to delay for at least another decade addressing the real problems and solutions. In the run up to the ’08 election, the idea of “Medicare for all” was gaining some traction. That had to be stopped and Obama-care did that and further entrenched the insurance industry in health care.

    It was fairly easy for politicians to protect the insurance industry with the “We don’t want no socialized medicine” meme when unemployment was <5% and it was somebody else had the problem, Now with 7 million middle class jobs gone and never to return combined with the rapidly disappearing and/or unaffordable employer based system; a whole new demographic is added to the "no health care" mix.

  270. Big Cat Lover

    “I have all my doctors note on my case file that I am allergic to Levaquin because the side effects are so potent. Of course, my family doctor tried to send me home with Tequin in a plain brown bag so I didn’t know which antibiotic she had given me, so now I say I’m allergic to all ‘quin’ antibiotics. Not really allergic but can’t handle it. You’d be surprised how many doctors try to get me to take it anyway. I hate doctors.”
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    How does your system react to Levaquin? How does the allergic reaction manifest itself?

  271. Mrs. Smith
    How does your system react to Levaquin? How does the allergic reaction manifest itself?
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    It knocks me out and I have weird multi color dreams, almost hallucinations. I really can’t function while I’m on it.

  272. It knocks me out and I have weird multi color dreams, almost hallucinations.
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    I knew some hippies who’d pay good money for shit like that.

  273. moononpluto
    I knew someone would say that, but I’m someone who wants her feet firmly on the ground at all times. I must be in control (not really, but never liked to be too far out there). lol

  274. “It knocks me out and I have weird multi color dreams, almost hallucinations. I really can’t function while I’m on it.”
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    Sounds like some of Levaquin’s components resemble LSD. For me- while writing checks paying bills it prevented me from processessing the numbers correctly. Simple addition and subtraction could never arrive at the same total twice in a row. As much as I tried, I could not maintain focus knowing which total was correct.

    Levaquin should be banned.

  275. oh god yeah, its dibilitating stuff, that stuff ruins peoples lives. I was given some stuff last year when i ripped some chest muscles and that stuff made me fly, sick as a parrot, i had to stop taking it.

  276. Mrs. Smith
    I have a long history of not handling medications well, but I have a cousin who does not usually react badly to them, but she had to be taken off Levaquin because she had some bad side affects. I can’t recall exactly what she experienced, but she called her doctor immediately and asked to be taken off it. I agree, it should be banned.

  277. Sec. Clinton said “Tonight America has lost one of its fiercest champions and most dedicated public servants, Holbrooke served with “distinctive brilliance and unmatched determination. He was one of a kind — a true fighter to the end. His doctors marveled at his strength and willpower, but to his friends, that was just Richard being himself.

  278. Hannity played the ‘damsel in distress running away’ presser clip and Dick Morris correctly characterized Clinton’s wins (along the lines people talked about here) and said why Obama could not pull it off. Hannity behaved himself too.

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