America Proud: Hillary Clinton And The State Department

So often we discuss the stupidity, cupidity, and outright dumbness encountered in the public sphere on a daily basis. Let’s take today to salute a different sort of “our toops on the ground”. There is no Memorial Day nor Veterans Day for these gals and guys – they are the reral “silent service” with a gregarious streak.

So we have to, for some hours, pass on discussing that unemployment rose to 9.8% and threw the Obama economy into a deeper ditch. We’ll have to clothespin our noses to Barack Obama, Slurpee in hand, tail between legs, publicity stunt run away from his disaster economy and to Afghanistan to annoy the troops. We’ll have to forgo acid comments about the man that refuses to work and prefers to hopscotch, along with his sleeveless scowling wife, to vacations and parties – Hawaii will be the next expensive jaunt.

We have to forgo discussion of the publicity stunts in the congress by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelousy and how Obama pretends he does not know all the Wall Streeters that so donated invested to his campaign and the Rezko/Obama-style financing of his fellow Obama Dimocrats’ houses.

We have to forgo all those juicy steaks (“juicy peaches” to our vegetarian friends) in order to focus on Hillary Clinton and the American State Department. From Mark Landler in today’s New York Times:

“When American diplomats get together these days, there is lots of dark talk about the fallout from the sensational disclosure of secret diplomatic cables. Will angry foreign governments kick out ambassadors? Will spooked locals stop talking to their embassy contacts?

Behind all the public hand-wringing, however, there is another, more muted reaction: pride.”

Mark Landler is cribbing off a very similar article published on the last day of November in the L.A. Times. Landler expands on the L.A. Times article however:

“The WikiLeaks affair has turned an unaccustomed spotlight on the diplomatic corps — pinstriped authors who pour their hearts and minds into cables, which are filed to the State Department and, until now, were often barely read by desk officers, let alone senior diplomats.

Whatever damage the leaks may do, and nobody doubts it could be substantial, they have showcased the many roles of the Foreign Service officer in the field: part intelligence analyst, part schmoozer, part spy — and to judge by these often artful cables, part foreign correspondent.

The pride of authorship is shared by their boss, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who found a silver lining in the disclosures, even after she spent last week trying to smooth the feathers of foreign leaders described in the cables as feckless, profligate, vain, corrupt, or worse.

What you see are diplomats doing the work of diplomacy: reporting and analyzing and providing information, solving problems, worrying about big complex challenges,” Mrs. Clinton said to reporters at the end of a four-country trip to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf that wound up being a contrition tour.

“In a way,” she said, “it should be reassuring, despite the occasional tidbit that is pulled out and unfortunately blown up.”

We’ll make this bipartisan praise for our diplomatic corps. Some of the great work leaked by the WikiLeaks megaLeak came from diplomats during the Condolezza Rice era (have we mentioned she is not one of our favorites?)

We’ll also stipulate, in passive voice diplo-speak, that “mistakes were made”. Landler notes that the Embassy in Georgia “relied so heavily on the Georgian government for intelligence that it badly misjudged the country’s actions in its war with Russia in 2008.”

“But the overall quality of the cables — their detail, analysis, and in some cases, laugh-out-loud humor — has won fans in unlikely places. “It’s very entertaining reading,” said Aigul Solovyeva, a member of Parliament in Kazakhstan who met Mrs. Clinton there this week.

Richard E. Hoagland, the ambassador to Kazakhstan, thinks good cable-writing is so essential that he has written a guide for junior diplomats, “Ambassador’s Cable Drafting Tips.” Many of the tips would be familiar to any cub reporter trying to get an editor to bite on a story.”

Hoagland’s “tips” should be read by JournoListers and Big Media to remind them of what they should be doing.

“The embassy in the Kazakhstan met many of Mr. Hoagland’s standards for cable-writing, even before he became ambassador there. Cables about Kazakhstan’s high-living leaders are written in a satirical tone worthy of Borat, the fictional (and wild) Kazakh played in the movie by Sacha Baron Cohen.

One described Kazakhstan’s defense minister turning up drunk for a meeting with an American official, “slouching back in his chair and slurring all kinds of Russian participles.” He explained that he had just been at a cadet graduation reception, “toasting Kazakhstan’s newly-commissioned officers.”

The memo concluded: “Who was toasted more — the defense minister or the cadets — is a matter of pure speculation.”

A 2006 cable from the embassy in Moscow showed that the staff there was also alert to the literary quality of the events on which their reported, and the value of telling details. The memo offered an account of a society wedding in Dagestan in Russia’s Caucasus, where guests threw $100 bills at child dancers and took alcohol-sodden water-scooter jaunts on the Caspian Sea. But it also showed how the wedding was a “microcosm of the social and political relations of the North Caucasus.”’

Only a hollowed out American cannot take pride in Hillary Clinton and the work done by many in the American diplomatic corps as she and they do diplomatic battle for America while hampered by Barack Obama and his thugs and Chicago quacks:

For Mrs. Clinton, the pride in the diplomats’ work is a small compensation for a difficult week in which she has discussed the WikiLeaks case with more than two dozen foreign leaders, working to soothe bruised egos and explain how the security breach happened.

The job of damage control has fallen mainly to her. President Obama has not called any foreign leaders about the disclosures. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, meanwhile, has been reserved even though the cables were believed to be purloined from a Department of Defense computer system by an army private, Bradley Manning, who is now in a military jail.”

Hillary worked; Obama ducked and ran AWOL from America; and the Department of Defense took its cue from AWOL Obama instead of “manning up” and taking responsibility for their mess. Hillary, with testicular fortitude not evident in anyone in Obama’s Chicago gangland; Hillary with ovarian strength not seen since the Octomom produced her litter, took charge and slapped away:

“Mrs. Clinton’s reaction to shouldering the burden has been every bit as artful as the cables that have landed her in so much trouble.

It was a DoD system, and a DoD obviously military intel guy,” she said. “But we’re part of one government, and we’re part of one country, and we have to work together, and that’s what we’re doing.”

Oh, Esther, er Hillary, that is a great diplomatic slap you gave there. Thank you for your service and thank you diplomatic corp for your services as well. We can’t wait until your last “public position” ends and elective office beckons.

Too bad hard working people have a boob in the White House. Americans in 2012 have to do right by the American government and purge the boob and boobery from the White House.

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192 thoughts on “America Proud: Hillary Clinton And The State Department

  1. Admin,

    There were so many paragraphs/sentences that I want copy and paste here from your amazing article, but this is the one that stood out the most for me:

    “Hillary worked; Obama ducked and ran AWOL from America; and the Department of Defense took its cue from AWOL Obama instead of “manning up” and taking responsibility for their mess. Hillary, with testicular fortitude not evident in anyone in Obama’s Chicago gangland; Hillary with ovarian strength not seen since the Octomom produced her litter, took charge and slapped away…”

    ———————
    All I can say is thank you for speaking up for her again and again. The feckless media, minus a few brave souls, are so bought and paid for by obama and his thugs, that they will never shine a bright light on her.

    And Dick Morris, a drooling Jabba the Hutt if ever there was one, and those who listen to him, are the dregs of humanity.

  2. AMEN, Admin. Once again you have put words how I feel. I am proud of Hillary. She is who I thought she was. A intelligent and brave woman, a great leader. Thanks for the great read.

  3. Obama is bad–not in the sense of being hip, with it, or whatever the slang word for it is today. Bad, as used herein, shall be construed to mean that he lies, he cheat and he steals from the American People. Yes Barack is bad. How bad? So bad that the demon wants him out of his life. . . Wake up big media. Every dog has his day and yers is coming.
    ————————————-
    Red State

    You know things are bad for Obama when one of his most famous voters has turned against him.

    The man who, nearly 40 years ago, made history as ‘The Demon’ in the mega-band KISS was an Obama voter. As it turns out, Gene Simmons isn’t too thrilled with how things have turned out.

    Simmons isn’t too keen on having the government dictate his life: he doesn’t like bailouts for companies that should have gone bankrupt, and he doesn’t like ObamaCare either.

    When the President has lost his allure with a demon, you just know things are going badly in Obama’s White House. Very bad indeed.

  4. Hillary did a superb job of damage control on this wikileaks stuff. Barack stuck his head in the sand like a beplumed ostrich, and told bed time stories to our troops in the Middle East, on how he has personally prevented another terrorist attack. You see he was not really corking off on the golf course. That was all just a cover. That golf cart–oh my god you thought it was a golf cart? Silly goose. It was a command and control center armed with stinger missiles and real time cnn coverage and cable ready access to Pateras, big sis, and the drug lords he intends to pardon. The code word is White Powder Georgia. Twain said no man is safe while congress is in session. The corollary is no dictator–or terrorist is at risk while Obama is president, unless he walks in front of Obama when he is teeing off on the first hole.

  5. I really do believe Assange has had a falling out with Soros. I believe he was pressured [by Soros] to video a ‘demand for Hillary’s resignation’ and he is furious at the position Soros has put him in. Now he is having to endure threats of assassination, persecution and living as a fugitive for the rest of his life without the protection promised him if he did his part.

    Why else would Assange have his workers release this scathing leak last night aimed directly at Obama and indirectly at Soros revealing the pressure applied to attending leaders from other countries refusing to fall in line signing on to their Cap and Trade scam in Copenhagen?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord

    This is an opportunity to get a leg up on Soros IF someone on our side can meet with Assange and get the skinny on what provoked the attack on SOS Clinton
    which was subsequently proven untrue.

    Hillary has shown her metal- she stood up for her country, her State Dept and her staff by coming out at once speaking candidly reassuring her counterparts from other countries nothing that was revealed will change the tone of their alliance. We were proud of her stepping into the breach to once again be the president behind the president.

    GO-HILLARY!

  6. Yes indeed Admin,

    Hillary, that is a great diplomatic slap you gave there. Thank you for your service and thank you diplomatic corp for your services as well. We can’t wait until your last “public position” ends and elective office beckons.

    Great post and a big BRAVO to our Hillary, again, and again she is doing the right thing for all of us.

  7. I do not understand why the left is the strum and dang of the Left. It is unseemly. What did they expect? A cursory review of his bio reveals that he is a campaigner not a governor. A mouth piece not a problem solver. A show horse not a work horse. Hint: a governor does not vote present over thirty times when critical issues come across his desk and then say he pushed the wrong button. Fifty eight percent of the electorate overlooked that poker tell and voted for him in spite of it. They told themselves, he has hope, he is bright and he will surround himself with strong advisors. Nuts.

    As far as his re-election is concerned, his attitude is what me worry? Governing is nothing more than a boring interlude between elections. And when you have got Plouffe and Axelrod in your corner, why as they saying goes, its in the bag–the Saudi cash I mean. Asshole. 9.8% unemployment? Just think what the rate would be if you didn’t have me, he says. No need to worry until the number approximates my golf handicap. i.e. 36. No he is not delusional. The people who voted for him are. A democracy gets the kind of leaders it deserves. Unfortunately. Mind you the following is from AP.
    ——————————————————————————
    Obama’s Leadership Under Scrutiny Amid Negotiations With GOP

    President Obama’s failure to stand his ground in ongoing negotiations with Republicans on key issues from taxes to jobless benefits has stirred howls of protest from many of his supporters on the left who are beginning to question the president’s leadership skills.

    Supporters say Obama should have been able to close the deal by now on extending the Bush tax cuts for only middle- and lower-income households and renewing another round of unemployment insurance.

    Instead, Obama continues to extend his hand to Republican leaders who have made clear that any compromises with the White House on spending and tax cuts would have to be on their terms.

    One liberal group, the Progressive Change Committee, is circulating a petition telling Obama that “Americans want him to fight the Bush tax cuts for millionaires – and that Democrats will keep losing if he keeps caving.”

    Yet there are some veteran Democratic analysts who say it’s not time to hit the panic button yet.

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    Charles Manson Caught With Cell Phone in Prison PayPal cuts WikiLeaks from money flow Spanish air controllers start returning to work Ten Worst Places to Live Actor Will Ferrell Loses $18M Case to JPMorgan “Forgive me if I sound a bit jaded. I’ve heard it before,” said Bill Galston, a former top aide to President Bill Clinton who served in the administration when Republicans captured Congress two years after Clinton took office. Galston told FoxNews.com that there was a six-month period when “Clinton couldn’t do anything right” and he was seen as increasingly “irrelevant.”

    “And somehow he was re-elected handsomely in ’96,” he said.

    But Obama continues to suffer setbacks one month after Republicans crushed Democrats in the midterm elections, capturing control of the House in a landslide and increasing their ranks in the Senate.

    On Saturday, Senate Republicans rejected two proposals extending the Bush tax cuts for all but the wealthiest households, prompting Obama to say he was “very disappointed” but determined to find a solution in further negotiations. Obama has said he is willing to back a temporary extension of tax cuts for households earning over $250,000 per year.

    Obama further enraged his supporters when he announced this week he wanted Congress to freeze the pay of civilian federal government employees as a step toward cutting the huge U.S. budget deficit. The unions have vowed to fight the proposal and Democrats have called it short-sighted.

    Liberal economist Paul Krugman wrote in his New York Times column this week that Democrats will have to look elsewhere for leadership.

    “It’s hard to escape the impression that Republicans have taken Mr. Obama’s measure – that they’re calling his bluff in the belief that he can be counted on to fold,” he wrote. “And it’s also hard to escape the impression that they’re right.”

    But Galston said Obama’s leadership may not be a problem at all.

    “I guess the question is whether we’re talking about issues of style or issues of fundamental objectives,” he said. “We may also be talking about questions of what’s feasible in given circumstances.”

    “And it may very well be with regard to the latter, that the president has reached a judgment that will not be fully accepted by the members of his own party, particularly in the House of Representatives,” he said. “They may continue to believe certain things are possible that the president doesn’t believe is achievable.”

    But Matt Schlapp, a former White House director in the second Bush administration, said Obama may have problems that go beyond differences between him and his party.

    “I think most Republicans are looking at the White House and saying who’s running shop? How are they making these decisions,” he told FoxNews.com.

    “And when you have 9.8 percent unemployment and the economic situation the country is in, there seems to be a glaring lack of presidential strategy to encourage Americans that better economic times are coming,” he said.

    Schlapp said he was most confused by Obama to signal he’s willing to extend the Bush tax cuts on all households temporarily and then continue to stake out a position for letting them expire on the upper income brackets.

    “Every appearance from the outside looking in suggests he doesn’t seem to be aware of how serious his problem is in terms of the tone of his policies or he’s just a left-wing college professor from a big city who is disdainful of what these Americans want,” Schlapp said. Or he believes he can bamboozle them into thinking these policies are what they want.”

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  8. Obama shouldn’t be any mystery. Look at where his contributions came from. Look at who his decisions favor.

    Cui bono.

  9. confloyd
    December 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
    I think Potus has a soft spot for those cocaine dealers, what do you think?
    *******************
    Yes, his nose!

  10. Do you remember when the bots jumped up and down spittle in all directions screaming we won we we won and now we must have unity. And we said look into the pewter pot and see the world as the world is not and faith tis pleasant til tis passed the michief is that twil not last. And now that sorry ass Krugman says the “democrats” will have to look elsewhere for leadership. He means “dim-ocrats’who were bamboozled–like for instance him. Democrats knew what Obama was from the beginning. And they also know that the party leaders sabotaged democracy, and will never let them forget it. Bad as the Republicans are, at this moment in history the dimocrats are even worse. As you know, I am not sanguine that they will be able to turn this around. Their only hope is Hillary, if they can convince her to reconsider.

  11. confloyd
    December 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
    I think Potus has a soft spot for those cocaine dealers, what do you think?

    ===============

    maybe cocaine users donate more money than marji users

  12. Bambi is caving in on taxes and the left is not happy. He claims, however, that he will “demand concessions” in exchange. I spent the most boring hour of my life listening to a shop warn detective tell me how he sweats confessions out of thugs. His words were when you have a thug on the ropes, never let him up. In the same spirit, no concessions to Obama. When the dims had the power they were not in any mood to compromise. Well, one bad turn deserves another. If they want to prop him up then sure make all the concessions you want. But if you want to control him tell him nicely that you will not concede on anything you don’t have to, and no concessions are warranted here.

  13. Unless he is willing to concede that he will not circumvent congress with bullshit executive orders demanded by Soros.

  14. WikiLeaks Loses Major Source of Revenue

    BERLIN (Dec. 4) – WikiLeaks has lost a major source of revenue after the online payment service provider PayPal cut off its account used to collect donations, saying the website is engaged in illegal activity.

    The announcement also came as WikiLeaks is struggling to keep its website accessible after service providers such as Amazon dropped contracts, and governments and hackers continued to hound the organization.

    The weekend move by PayPal came as WikiLeaks’ release of hundreds of thousands of United States diplomatic cables brought commercial organizations on the Internet that have business ties with the organization under more scrutiny.

    WikiLeaks also is under legal pressure in several countries, including the U.S., and a former colleague of founder Julian Assange has said he will launch of a competing platform.

    Donating money to WikiLeaks via PayPal was not possible anymore on Saturday, generating an error message saying: “This recipient is currently unable to receive money.”

    PayPal said in a blog posting that cutting off WikiLeaks’ account was prompted by a violation of the service provider’s policy, “which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity.”

    The short notice was dated Friday, and a spokeswoman for PayPal Germany declined on Saturday to elaborate and referred to the official blog posting.

    WikiLeaks confirmed the latest trouble in its Twitter account, saying: “PayPal bans WikiLeaks after U.S. government pressure.”

    WikiLeaks has embarrassed Washington and foreign leaders by releasing a trove of brutally frank U.S. diplomatic cables.

    PayPal, a subsidiary of U.S.-based online marketplace operator EBay Inc., offers online payment services that are one of several ways WikiLeaks collects donations – and until now was probably the most secure and convenient way to support the organization.

    The other options listed on WikiLeaks’ website are through mail to an Australian post office box, through bank transfers to accounts in Switzerland, Germany or Iceland, as well as through one “credit card processing partner” in Switzerland.

    WikiLeaks’ PayPal account redirects users to a German foundation which provides the organization with the money. The Wau Holland Foundation, named after a German hacker, confirmed Saturday in a Twitter message that its PayPal account had been taken down because of the “financial support to WikiLeaks.”

    The Wau Holland Foundation’s president, Winfried Motzkus, earlier this week was quoted by the local newspaper Neue Westfaelische in his hometown of Bielefeld as saying that Wau Holland has collected euro750,000 ($1 million) for WikiLeaks, covering the organization’s expenses.

    WikiLeaks’ recent releases seem to have been a boon for the foundation, which had previously described itself as the The Wau Holland Foundation’s main financial backer.

    On its website, the foundation said “the huge and in this form unique amount of donations has caused the delay of issuing contribution receipts” – which allow Germans to deduct donations from their taxes.

    Messages left for the foundation and for Motzkus were not immediately answered.

    http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/paypal-cuts-off-money-flow-to-wikileaks/19746369?icid=main%7Cnetscape%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%7C188186

  15. Across the board every Republican/Independent/Blue Dog/Progressive that I know has trumpeted respect for Secretary Clinton in the wake of wikileaks. I heard high praise from a man who switched parties to vote against Hill in PA. Too bad the lamestream media hasn’t realized that a lot more people are paying attention and their word is no longer gospel and is in fact suspect. Local news branded the story as wiki– spies– Hillary– bad. Too bad for them they lost the publics trust when they carried waffles water. Now everyone who believed the hype is looking at the salesman of the hype and saying no thanks.

    One very affluent gentleman I know told me he donated to bambi as if Hillary won he was leaving the country. This past week he actually said to me if I’d known what a leader and stand up gal she was I might have felt differently.
    How he ever thought bambi was a leader or a stand up guy mystifies me, but I guess it is best to not argue and welcome new found wisdom.

  16. Barack has told us that powerful interests treat him like a dog. Well, the way to get a dog’s attention is to rap him on the nose with a newspaper. The way to get Barack’s attention is when he asks for concessions, follow the advice of Nancy Reagan and just say no. No concessions and no cocaine for you Barack. You will have to go cold turkey.

  17. Want proof that big media is corrupt> Notice how finally steps are being taken to shut down wikileaks after the fact? Why wasn’t this action taken before the sos leaks? That is an obvious question and yet big media has scrupuolusly avoided asking it to Obama. Which merely goes to show you how utterly worthless Brian Williams, Couric, Wolf Blitzer, etc. are.

  18. One very affluent gentleman I know told me he donated to bambi as if Hillary won he was leaving the country. This past week he actually said to me if I’d known what a leader and stand up gal she was I might have felt differently.
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    Henry, I think he should leave the country regardless. His departure would have a salutary effect on the national IQ.

  19. Just put together a set of facts making a firm connection between Soros and Assange and Wikileaks.

    You bet Soros is connected and responsible for the attack on Hillary! Here it is-

    …. We know, Julian Assange’s attorney is Mr. Mark Stevens. Mr. Stevens works for Soros and OSI.

    …. The article in pink and emboldened script mentions the bulk of Assange’s donations go into The Wau Holland Foundation’s account located in Berlin.

    …. Why would an Aussie pick an obscure foundation in Germany to be the main source for managing his donations? Well for one, the foundation is named for a famous hacker, Wau Holland, who passed away some years ago.

    That’s not it, though-

    Wau Holland under German law can’t publicly disclose the names of donors. Because the foundation “is not an operational concern, it can’t be sued for doing anything. So the donors’ money is protected, in other words, from lawsuits. ” as quoted by Mr. Assange .

    Thats not it, though-

    It will be proven George Soros is a huge donor to the Wau Holland Foundation.

    Thats not it though-

    So what if Soros is a huge donor to the Wikileaks organization. What is he getting out of it?

    This is it:

    Soros hired Assange to spy on countries for HIM! Archive the information, saved for future use. Why would Soros want government secrets? He wouldn’t want to keep them. But, having them strategically released would work on his behalf.

    When Wiki said they were going to release info on a big bank everyone said BoA and the next day their stock started to plummet. Back to Hillary-

    A few threads ago, when we noticed the third Wikileak was about Hillary ( and why not Obama?) When Obama is the elephant in the room, NOT Hillary. I knew the leak was designed to damage her image for the one and only plausible reason- ruin her chances for a Primary in 2012.

    My final thought is this. I hope Soros can be prosecuted for spying and world wide espionage. Soros is the one who should be shunned and spat-at at every opportunity. Save Assange. Soros will want him dead- Assange is still our best shot at incising the cancerous tumor that is poisoning this planet. We need his testimony….

  20. wbboei,
    The person I knew who wanted to move out of the country if Hillary had won did not know the woman we do. He is affluent and very busy and assumed the media was giving him the truth. Pre-2008 I trusted things like the New York Times and they bashed her. What he saw in New Hamphire was a woman crying as that is how it was presented. What I saw was hope

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqGl-pDnYMQ

    Incredible statement and so true but local news showed only a bit of crying.
    And she won. SHE WON!

  21. I think he should leave the country regardless. His departure would have a salutary effect on the national IQ.

    ==================

    Depending on where he goes, it might raise the national IQ of both countries.

  22. Only just out of 1, Rangel back in the shit again

    Rangel in deeper with new ethics charge

    The Federal Election Commission is investigating a complaint that Rep. Charles Rangel improperly used his National Leadership PAC to fund his legal defense on ethics charges for which he was censured Thursday, The Post has learned. The center expects to file a second complaint this week contending that Rangel’s PAC money included at least $195,000 in donations from lobbyists with business before the House Ways & Means Committee, of which he is a member.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rangel_in_deeper_with_new_ethics_NN5qV3bXesmA99ZPPDytiO

  23. WikiLeaks Threatens U.S. With Information Nuke

    Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

    One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.

    Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.

    ……………………………………………………..

    Perhaps Assange realises now he is being made a patsy and is turning on whoever got him to do this.

  24. moononpluto:

    Perhaps Assange realises now he is being made a patsy and is turning on whoever got him to do this.”
    ______________________

    From the bits and pieces of info I’ve gathered from various sources, Soros hooked up with Assange 4 yrs ago. Knowing Assange’s passion for transparency, could be, Soros exploited him from the beginning of their relationship using carte blanc as the entry pointgiving Assange all the funding he desired. Soros the silent partner, Assange the working partner. I would have to give Assange the benefit of the doubt as to the particulars of their original deal…. postponing an opinion until we know more…

    The Climategate e-mails may be the first opportunity for Assange’s to strike back at Soros… now that enough time has elapsed in their relationship. Soros more relaxed and comfortable discussing his private thoughts with Assange.

    It is then, Assange realizes the level of “evil” he is dealing with in Soros. It is then, he decides he has to do something to STOP this maniacal, inhumane, individual George Soros from damaging any more lives using him as a tool. …

    Assange releases the Climategate. e-mails just before the Climategate summit revealing the Truth. Global warming results have been cooked/ tampered-with, modified from actual data, edited down for a desired result by climate scientists (huge receivers of Soros donations).

    Assange calling out Secretary of State Clinton demanding she resign is totaly out of character for Assange to say something like this… In fact, it would be easy for me to believe Assange respects Hillary for her untiring devotion to foreign affairs and privately is one of her fans.

    This is my favorite quote proven right, time and time again-

    “There is no fire like passion,
    there is no shark like hatred,
    there is no snare like folly,
    there is no torrent like greed.”

    Siddharta Guatama Buddha

  25. Assange did not volunteer to say (demand, nah) Hillary should resign. He was asked that question by the Times’ Richard Stengel (as Admin’s post and others indicated) — now why would the Times stooge do such a silly thing? (/snark). Assange said IF she was proven to have done the spying thing, she should resign.

    This is the quote from Admin’s post attributed to a daily mirror comment/article:

    “I don’t think Assange specifically targeted HRC with these leaks, but I do think Obama supporters in the media are doing everything they can to gin up a controversy in order to boost sales while taking advantage of the fake diplomatic “crisis” they are creating to put a stake through any possible HRC challenge to Obama’s re-election bid in 2012. In Time’s interview of Assange, the controversial spin about HRC needing to resign starts with the news rag’s managing editor, Richard Stengel. He’s the one who threw out the loaded question about HRC, and for no good reason when you think about it. What does it matter whether Assange thinks HRC should resign? Why was the question even asked? It is not news; whether HRC should resign is an editorial matter for Time to take a position on. Why Time feels the need to target HRC is beyond me. She has already denied any interest in running against Obama in 2012. Does Time think she is lying? She wouldn’t do that, would she?”

  26. Shadowfax
    December 4th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    BigCat – thanks for the DU info…wonder where the pac went?
    *************************
    When those closet to M stopped commenting a few days ago, I assumed something was up or more correctly, going down.

  27. Wasn’t it after the rumor that Wikileaks was going to go after a huge bank (Bank of America) that Wikileaks actually went down. I suspect the timing was all important in this development. Too paranoid?

  28. “I don’t think Assange specifically targeted HRC with these leaks, but I do think Obama supporters in the media are doing everything they can to gin up a controversy in order to boost sales while taking advantage of the fake diplomatic “crisis” they are creating to put a stake through any possible HRC challenge to Obama’s re-election bid in 2012. In Time’s interview of Assange, the controversial spin about HRC needing to resign starts with the news rag’s managing editor, Richard Stengel. He’s the one who threw out the loaded question about HRC, and for no good reason when you think about it. What does it matter whether Assange thinks HRC should resign? Why was the question even asked? It is not news; whether HRC should resign is an editorial matter for Time to take a position on. Why Time feels the need to target HRC is beyond me. She has already denied any interest in running against Obama in 2012. Does Time think she is lying? She wouldn’t do that, would she?
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    That is where I came out the other day, right down to Stengel and who he is. This guy is personally responsible for the steady stream of Hillary hate coming out of Time Magazne (and Obama worship) and as indicated he has had more than one ethical lapse in his behavior and editor and controller of that useless rag–which nobody with any intelligence should waste their time and money on. If the words mind rot have any meaning, then Time Magazine would be Exhibit A.

  29. pm317
    December 5th, 2010 at 11:10 am
    @BigCatLover, When those closet to M stopped commenting a few days ago
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    who is M?
    *******************
    The originator of the blog we’re discussing.

  30. The size the scope and the damage of this wiki leaks all point to a Soros operation. It is therefore imperative that we get to him before his co conspirators do. This is more touchy than it sounds. If the people who get to him are Soros people he will be eliminated–through drugs or other means. It is important to understand that part of the CIA acted in concert with Soros and his Open Society Institute in the overthrow of former Soviet Republics. That part was called the Brzezniski crew after Zeib who was Soros partner along with his sons. If the good guys get to him first then we may get the information we need to prove what we already suspect which is that Soros was behind it. They would need to put Assange in solitary confinement and sweat the information out of him. If the Swedes get him first, that is no good. They are manipulable by Soros. This may sound like Hollywood crap to you, but the research we did on Soros, and what he is capable of, indicates otherwise.

  31. I have a theory about the source relied upon by Ulsterman. It is unlikely that it is just one individual. More likely it is more than one individual inside the administration, some of whom are Hillary loyalists. The information they are providing is definitely accurate. In some ways it is cumulative, and in other respects it is confirmed by future events. Either way however it is true. It offers a far more sober and accurate appraisal than anything a pair of pricks like Haplrin and Heilman might write about this White House from the standpoint of media disciplines. Their trash is uninformative.

  32. Assange made a video demanding Hillary’s resignation. I don’t agreee with the Daily mirror’s version. I believe Soros forced Assange to do the video to publicly humiliate SOS Clinton to undermine her character if she has private aspirations of challenging Obama in a Primary.

    Soros needs his puppet Obama to remian in office for another 4yrs. He will do and say anything to achieve his goal.

  33. The person I knew who wanted to move out of the country if Hillary had won did not know the woman we do. He is affluent and very busy and assumed the media was giving him the truth. Pre-2008 I trusted things like the New York Times and they bashed her. What he saw in New Hamphire was a woman crying as that is how it was presented. What I saw was hope
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    Henry, when you say he is affluent, I say then he will not pay the price for his ignorance, but innocent people who are not affluent will. As far as believing the media, he must also believe in the easter bunny. I vote for him moving out of the county so the national IQ will go up. If I saw him I would tell him that, and the conversation would go downhill from there. Ask him if he agrees with the position of the Holder Justice Department that black on white voting rights crimes are not actionable. I have no use for these king of people Henry. They may be rich but they are ignorant as swans.

  34. Hillary thought the rich should pay more. Bambi said the same thing—but it was just another lie. Bachelor thinks that will undermine his support from the left. I say bullshit. I have watched these people operate all my life. They will throw a temper tantrum and that will be about it. When the chips are down they will support a black president against any centrist in the party or any Republican. That is just the way it is. It is up to the rest of us to hold him accountable.
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    John Bachelor at No Quarter

    I Am told that POTUS will sell out Majority Leader Harry Reid and Dick Durbin and Churck Schumer and the Senate Liberals, as well as the Nancy Pelosi Progressives in the House, when he signs on to the GOP Bush tax cut extension deal. The supposed negotiations under way are theater.

    The supposed cover for POTUS selling out his own Democratic majority (in the 111th and 112th Senate) will be that the GOP must trade one year of jobless benefit extension for the tax cuts for the rich.

    This is a falsehood. The tax cuts are about policy. The jobless benefits are about politics. POTUS will hide out from his Left (where are Howard Dean and Bob Casey on this?) as it readies the barrage on the White House for betraying a campaign promise that the rich must pay.

    End of the beginning, as POTUS settles in for the search for support for the re-elect. The unions? Nah, they just need their pals in the Congress.

    POTUS doesn’t substantively help the unions. The centrists? All 55,000,000 (this is a guess) of them from coast to coast? Good luck finding them. Centrists don’t come out till the GDP goes above 3%. POTUS gets the blame without the credit.

    White House preparing sandbags, laying in canned goods. Siege for winter, as the jobless rate climbs and those rich people enjoy their tax breaks. What does a bootless POTUS sound like as he prepares to betray his own partisans?

    President Barack Obama: ”So we are going to continue to work on this issue through the weekend, into early next week,” Obama said. “And I’m going to be rolling up my sleeves with the leaders in both parties in Congress. We need to get this resolved, and I’m confident we can do it.”

  35. Maybe these Chinese authorities should resign as well???

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    Beijing used hackers to find US secrets

    December 6, 2010

    Secret information sent by US diplomats to Hillary Clinton’s State Department make clear that US diplomats suspect Chinese authorities have made use of private ”patriotic” hackers to delve into US computers.

    The cables refer to a previously unreported hacker attack in 2008 that American investigators code-named Byzantine Candor.

    Carried out by intruders based in Shanghai, linked to the People’s Liberation Army, the attack yielded more than 50 megabytes of email messages and a complete list of user names and passwords from a US government agency, says a November 3, 2008 cable.

    In June last year a secret State Department cable warned of email ”spear phishing” attacks during climate change talks with China. The attacks, which failed, involved emails sent to employees in the office of the State Department’s climate change envoy, with a PDF file containing a malicious software program that if activated would give the hacker complete control of the victim’s computer.

    The cables also reveal that a surveillance system that stole information from computers used by the Dalai Lama and South Asian governments, was also linked to a series of break-ins in US government computers code-named Byzantine Hades.

    US investigators made a ”tenuous connection” between those attacks and the People’s Liberation Army.

    The US also fears China is plotting internet warfare via private companies that are known to have recruited top hackers.

    Leaked cables say the State Department is concerned about Beijing’s relationship with two providers of information security in China. The companies have hired hackers, who include Lin Yong, aka Lion, who founded the Honker Union of China, a Chinese hacker group that emerged after the US bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1999 and launched cyber attacks on US government-related websites.

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/beijing-used-hackers-to-find-us-secrets-20101205-18lf8.html

  36. wbboei
    December 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    “The size the scope and the damage of this wiki leaks all point to a Soros operation. It is therefore imperative that we get to him/Assange before his co conspirators do.

    This is more touchy than it sounds. If the people who get to him are Soros people he will be eliminated–through drugs or other means. It is important to understand that part of the CIA acted in concert with Soros and his Open Society Institute in the overthrow of former Soviet Republics. That part was called the Brzezniski crew after ZBig who was Soros partner along with his sons.

    If the good guys get to him first then we may get the information we need to prove what we already suspect which is that Soros was behind it.

    They would need to put Assange in solitary confinement and sweat the information out of him. If the Swedes get him first, that is no good. They are manipulable by Soros. This may sound like Hollywood crap to you, but the research we did on Soros, and what he is capable of, indicates otherwise.
    ___________________

    Exactly-the disservice done to our research by flagrant postings using (snark/) as part of the message… capped with coy derogatory remarks in messages left to undermine other bloggers is adolescent low self-esteem behavior. The typical HS behavior seen as divisive, non-productive and frankly beneath the high level postings we are accustomed to at His44.. ignore, as I will.

  37. Obama’s Iran failure

    Op-ed: Unlike Arab leaders, American president fails to understand scope of Iranian threat

    Shoula Romano Horing
    12.05.10

    For the last two years President Obama has been obsessing with “engaging” the Muslim world while ignoring the “moderates” in the Islamic countries who have been imploring the US to stop Iran’s development of nuclear weapons.

    For two years President Obama and his administration have fabricated a mythical argument that progress on the Israeli–Palestinian issue through the stopping of settlement construction will help get the “moderate” Arab nations in the region like Saudi Arabia, the Persian Gulf State, Egypt and Jordan on board in stopping Iran.

    But the confidential documents from US embassies made public on WikiLeaks reveal that those countries have already been on board, by hounding and begging the Obama administration to take military action, including airstrikes and the use of ground forces, against the Iranians.

    Moreover, while Obama was wasting time and personally orchestrating public confrontations with Israel over the settlement issue and the creation of a Palestinian state, it seems that Arab Sunni leaders, in private communications with US officials, did not even mention the settlements or the Palestinian issue as their main urgent concern. As one Middle East expert from Cairo told the Los Angeles Times, the official stance in the Middle East led by Arab Sunni states has always been” that it is Iran and not Israel that poses the main threat to the region.”

    According to WikiLeaks, Saudi Arabian King Abdullah urged the US to attack ”evil” Iran, saying that “it is necessary to cut the head of the snake.” King Hamad of Bahrain was quoted in 2009 as saying ”the Iranian nuclear program must be terminated by whatever means necessary. The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it.” Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Zayed urged the US not to appease or engage Tehran, referring to it as an “existential threat” and stating that “Ahmadinejad is Hitler.”

    Iran is not Soviet Union

    It appears that Arab leaders agree with Prime Minster Netanyahu‘s assessment that Iran is the main threat to peace and stability in the Middle East and not the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and that economic sanctions may hurt Iran but military action is the only way to stop it.

    It seems that Obama chooses to ignore the concerns about Iran from his friends, and feels compelled to occupy himself with sideshows like the Israeli-Palestinian issue and “settlements” because he does not understand the dangers of a nuclear armed Iran. Obama does not believe in a military solution because he believes it is possible to “contain” Iran as the US contained the Soviet Union. But he does not understand that contrary to the Communist leaders, Iranian leaders are not “rational “adversaries.

    To understand Iran’s ambitions it is necessary to understand Iran’s religious ideology. The Iranian regime believes that the right religion for humanity is Islam and the right sect of Islam is Shiite and not Sunni. Iran’s ultimate aim is to establish global Islamic rule, a new Islamic empire, but this time under Shiite leadership.

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stated in the past his belief that amidst the chaos of a catastrophic war, the 12th Imam, the Mahdi, would make his prophesied Messianic return and establish new order where the whole world would convert to Shiite Islam. This belief lies at the heart of Iran’s ambition to spread its influence and acquire nuclear weapons and this is the reason such ambition is dangerous not only for Israel but for Sunni Arab countries, Europe and the world. Acquiring nuclear capability would give Iranian leadership even more room for reckless and aggressive foreign policy.

    The Sunni Arabs understand the Iranian Shiite ambitions for regional hegemony and the threat to their survival, even though Obama does not. The Israeli government should stop participating in the sideshows of Obama and refuse any requests for a settlement freeze or negotiations over a future Palestinian state until the Iranian threat is eliminated.

    Shoula Romano Horing is Israeli-born and raised. She is an attorney in Kansas City, Missouri and a national speaker.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3993233,00.html

  38. pm317
    December 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Assange did not volunteer to say (demand, nah) Hillary should resign. He was asked that question by the Times’ Richard Stengel (as Admin’s post and others indicated) — now why would the Times stooge do such a silly thing? (/snark). Assange said IF she was proven to have done the spying thing, she should resign.

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    Yes, exactly. IF. That’s how a person answers leading question about a hypothetical or something they aren’t familiar with. Remember in her 2000 campaign when there was a trick question about iirc an ‘internet tax’ put to her and Lazio? He bluffed, pretended he was familiar with it. She answered that this was the first she’d heard of it and IF it were true she would oppose it.

    Unethical journalists do this. They ask a question that gets an ‘IF’ answer, then quote the answer without the IF.

  39. Look at this from talkleft (they are doing so well either). BTD thinks Obama can win reelection. I would be curious to hear what Admin thinks.

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    BTD a question (none / 0) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 11:51:25 AM EST
    hopefully not OT. given the way this is going and assuming it continues the same way do you still believe Obama can win reelection? even against someone like Palin?

    Well (none / 0) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 12:04:06 PM EST
    Yes I do.

    He remains a lock against Palin.

    And he can still run against the crazy GOP.

    Frankly, I think the more interesting exercise is mapping out how a Republican could beat him. Think of the demographics and the states in play.

    Remember Cali, NY, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. are locks for any Dem, and Texas, the rest of the South, Utah, Idaho, the Dakotas, Nebraska etc. are GOP locks and will remain as such.

    Obama can do no worse, I think than Kerry in 2004 under any circumstance. Which means he is close to winning no matter what.

    So the question becomes, as always, who wins Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
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  40. Weren’t the earlier Wikileaks stories more damaging to Obama than to Hillary? Shooting civilians in Afganistan etc.

    Isn’t it more likely that Wikileaks had other things on their minds than targeting either person?

  41. Part of dynamics with the wikileaks was that the spying thing was revved up by Obots (including the Times’ Richard Stingel who asked that leading question to Assange) thinking they can harm Hillary (and Obama and his WH didn’t do much to curb that). It was like Obots wanted somebody to say the words Hillary and resign in a sentence and who can they get to say it. Then the danger became that people started openly talking about Hillary being the target and may be Obama wanted it that way and then the scared WH started to defend her. Because the MSM focused on the spying thing, other news like Obama forcing Spain to shut down prosecution of Bush cronies got lost.

  42. Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

    One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/05/wikileaks-ready-release-massive-insurance-file-shut/#ixzz17GKSF22j

  43. Then the danger became that people started openly talking about Hillary being the target and may be Obama wanted it that way and then the scared WH started to defend her. Because the MSM focused on the spying thing, other news like Obama forcing Spain to shut down prosecution of Bush cronies got lost.
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    I’ve been watching the Sunday morning talk shows to see who is now defending HRC and trying to figure out who sent them out to put forth the counter argument, so I can decide who is behind her defense and why. What is the story about Obama forcing Spain to shut down prosecution of Bush cronies? I had not heard anything about that.

  44. henry

    And as well the word “Damn” I wish you were president seems fitting I will post it again

    xxxx

    We are lucky to have her in any way shape or form!
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    I can never hear this song too often…it always lifts my spirits…

    Thanks for posting it often Henery.

  45. pm317
    December 5th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    It was like Obots wanted somebody to say the words Hillary and resign in a sentence and who can they get to say it. can harm Hillary (and Obama and his WH didn’t do much to curb that).

    ============

    Very sensible post. Who CARES what Assange (neither a US citizen nor a world leader) thinks about Hillary? He’s just a name that gets attention right now. They might as well have asked some European ball player.

    Assange should have refused to comment. Now he’s being accused of posting the whole State cables package — if not starting his whole Wikileaks project years ago — for the sole purpose of targeting her.

  46. TurnDownObama, you are correct in writing that the WikiLeaks stories were more damaging to Obama than Hillary. The argument can easily be made that Hillary was made stronger.

  47. Hillary talks about WikiLeaks:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101205/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_clinton_wikileaks_1

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton knows how to try to get a laugh from a public embarrassment.

    Ever since the website WikiLeaks started posting State Department memos — known as cables — and other classified government documents, U.S. officials have been turning a bit red as secret assessments of world leaders have become public.

    She found time for a little light turn about WikiLeaks during a reception she hosted Saturday night at the State Department for recipients of this year’s Kennedy Center Honors — who include Oprah Winfrey and Paul McCartney.

    Clinton said she found it extraordinary to greet so many talented people. She then said: `I am writing a cable about it, which I’m sure you’ll find soon on your closest website.”

  48. I thought Gates respected Hillary. I thought Leon Panneta did as well. Why didn’t they step forward and defend Hillary when the wikileaks attack started? Why didn’t they take some ownership here?

  49. moononpluto

    WikiLeaks Threatens U.S. With Information Nuke

    Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.

    One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.

    Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.

    ……………………………………………………..

    Perhaps Assange realises now he is being made a patsy and is turning on whoever got him to do this.
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    This little creep is now threatening the United States with blackmail. No longer using the whistle-blower cover but has stripped off his sheep suit.

    He is delusional at his own self worth and safety, reminds me of someone…

  50. BigCat

    I assumed something was up or more correctly, going down.

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    Someone else mentioned that to me too…

  51. JanH
    December 5th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    I thought Gates respected Hillary. I thought Leon Panneta did as well. Why didn’t they step forward and defend Hillary when the wikileaks attack started? Why didn’t they take some ownership here?

    —————
    My guess is that Hillary, Gates and others have decided not to accept the ‘guilt’ accusation by running around defending it. If someone accuses me of something outrageous, I don’t feel compelled to defend myself against it, I just roll my eyes at them and walk away.

  52. Apparently Wikipedia is not happy with Wikileaks, so this Wikipedia article might be less bot-shaped than other Wikipedia articles.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

    It’s a long and informative article, too much to quote. Here’s one bit:

    WikiLeaks has stated that misleading leaks “are already well-placed in the mainstream media. WikiLeaks is of no additional assistance.”

    They also hosted the ‘climategate’ emails, doubtless for some very obscure pro-Soros reason.

    Lots of interesting stuff in the article, about non-US leaks in past years (since 2006). That would be kind of a long advance set-up for an attack on Hillary.

  53. The Wikileaks insurance file has been around for months…heck I could of downloaded it, but I didn’t because I was afraid of getting a trojan virus. The “insurance file” was loaded on his site just before the Afghanistan release…he’s been threatening this forever! Who ever he is in cahoots with he is also afraid of.

  54. TurnDownObama, you are correct in writing that the WikiLeaks stories were more damaging to Obama than Hillary. The argument can easily be made that Hillary was made stronger.
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    An object lesson in crisis management. Hers vs his. When the going gets tough the tough respond, and the weak hide.

  55. tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia
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    we need to know who they are so they can be held accountable . . .

  56. confloyd,

    Yes, that’s old news.

    Wikipedia says “On 29 July 2010 WikiLeaks added a 1.4 GB “Insurance File” to the Afghan War Diary page. The file is AES encrypted [….]”

    I’m surprised it took Assange that long to do an ‘insurance’ thing. But there are plenty of people for him to be afraid of, such as the US military.

  57. I spoke to ABM 92 this morning. He sends his best regards to all of you. He will be unavailable for awhile, but wants you to know he is still thinking of you, and rooting for “our girl”.

  58. Glad to know ABM92 is doing OK, wintertime is hard on the older folks…gee I’m one of those, LOL! My dad is 87 and I hope he makes it thru the winter, he looks like he’s getting weaker and weaker.

    Oh well, what do they say….60 is the new 50….I’d rather them say 60 is the new 40! LOL!

  59. The news is all about wikileaks, that is dominating the news for the past few days.

    Is anything bigger going on and this is used as a media distraction?

  60. Part of dynamics with the wikileaks was that the spying thing was revved up by Obots (including the Times’ Richard Stingel who asked that leading question to Assange) thinking they can harm Hillary (and Obama and his WH didn’t do much to curb that). It was like Obots wanted somebody to say the words Hillary and resign in a sentence and who can they get to say it. Then the danger became that people started openly talking about Hillary being the target and may be Obama wanted it that way and then the scared WH started to defend her. Because the MSM focused on the spying thing, other news like Obama forcing Spain to shut down prosecution of Bush cronies got lost.
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    Exactly. Another one of their schemes that backfired. The same thing happened when they invented the story that he was considering her for Secretary of State. In fact, he had promised that position to Kerry. They invented the story to explain why she was in Chicago. In fact she was summoned to Chicago by Obama because when she returned to the Senate, and heard about the Soros agenda he was promoting she said we cannot afford that now with the economy in the condition it was in, and we needed to focus instead on jobs. He went ballistic. They never believed she would accept the position because of the CGI so they assumed it was a safe lie. She decided to go for it. By the time Obama and his wife found about about it the story had gone around the world and it was too late to prevent it. Obama was in complete denial. Axelrod had to get him one on one and convince him there was nothing he could do. That is why he has been trying to undermine her as sos, without destroying himself in the process. The journalists who came forward and demanded her resignation were acting on orders from the white house. That goes for the editor of Time Magazine as well. I told you about this before. I bring it up again now because it helps explain what is going on, and why Obama will not address the issue. But he does so at his own peril because the narrative about him here and in every capital around the world is that he is a ball-less pussy and all his tripe about a new heaven and a new earth is a fairy tale for children.

  61. I think someone in the Justice dept. has left…I think there crap going on there and some more crap with AG payoff to the black farmers….and of coarse they want to cover the signing of the republican tax payoff.

  62. I do not think the Republicans are of a mind to play footsie with Obama. If they do the Tea Party will hang them out to dry. And the election was a mandate to confront, not the concede. They owe him just as many concessions as Pelosi gave them when she had the gavel, which is a good round number, i.e. zero.

  63. wbb
    The same thing happened when they invented the story that he was considering her for Secretary of State. In fact, he had promised that position to Kerry. They invented the story to explain why she was in Chicago. In fact she was summoned to Chicago by Obama because when she returned to the Senate, and heard about the Soros agenda he was promoting she said we cannot afford that now with the economy in the condition it was in, and we needed to focus instead on jobs. He went ballistic.
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    No wonder everyone in O’cabinet is leaving. So much energy is put forth to minimize Hillary that they can’t focus on the job of running our country.

    I remember all the stories of how her job of SOS had been reduced in duties to keep her on the sidelines…………well, if that was true, she pulled another whammy on them, she is front and center, in the news more than any SOS I have ever seen. Taking on anyone and anything that she thinks is worthy of her attention. Working 24/7.

    Yea, like Hillary is going to give up all this drive and retire from politics. 😆

  64. If Assange is correct and he has thousands of sources around the world feeding him information, then this too points to a Soros operation. He has Open Society Institute chapters in over 100 countries, and they work through the press to undermine political figures, and entire countries. The Rose Revolution where he toppled the Shervernaze government in Georgia with the assistance of the Brezinsky crew at CIA, and made fed stories critical of Scheveranze to the press. It culminated on a march on the capital by students and he was behind it. The American Press ignores this chapter in recent history so it is as if it never happened as far as most Americans are concerned. I rather suspect the same forces are at work here trying to undermine the United States as the world leader (an objective Soros explicitly endorses) and Hillary because she is a threat to Obama, who is a Soros tool. That is the only explanation for this that makes any sense.

  65. Hillary and Bill thrive on hardball politics…she’s not going to quit! We just have to keep our movement going and enlarge it!

  66. It looks like this wikileaks thing has gone thru the roof today….all while I’ve been busy…hmmm, hmmm! I almost missed the whole thing!

  67. No wonder everyone in O’cabinet is leaving. So much energy is put forth to minimize Hillary that they can’t focus on the job of running our country.

    I remember all the stories of how her job of SOS had been reduced in duties to keep her on the sidelines…………well, if that was true, she pulled another whammy on them, she is front and center, in the news more than any SOS I have ever seen. Taking on anyone and anything that she thinks is worthy of her attention. Working 24/7.

    Yea, like Hillary is going to give up all this drive and retire from politics.
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    If you will recall, at that time they were promoting the meme that he was Liconesque, and so sure of himself that he was comfortable with a cabinet of political adversaries. That was part of the reason why his staffers pushed that meme, never dreaming that she would accept. The failed to check with Obama. They failed to appreciate that he wanted the world stage all to himself. As I say, he went ballistic when he found out.

  68. Hillary and Bill thrive on hardball politics…she’s not going to quit! We just have to keep our movement going and enlarge it!
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    As in snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

  69. Paul McCartney, Oprah, Hilary Clinton at Kennedy Center Honors dinner (Photos)

    December 5th, 2010

    Last night, this year’s five Kennedy Center Honors recipients were honored at the formal Artist’s Dinner in Washington DC at the State Department. This dinner is traditionally held the night before the official Kennedy Center Honors awards ceremony and is where the honorees receive their medallions and pose for formal class photos. United States Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton hosted the evening in honor of Oprah Winfrey, Paul McCartney, country singer Merle Haggard, composer and lyricist Jerry Herman, and dancer and choreographer Bill T. Jones.

    http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-events-in-national/paul-mccartney-oprah-hilary-clinton-attend-kennedy-center-dinner-photos

  70. Clinton jokes about WikiLeaks

    Washington (CNN) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made light of the recent WikiLeaks controversy at a dinner Saturday night for the Kennedy Center honorees.

    She noted the full “breadth and depth of American artistry,” and then said:

    “I am writing a cable about it, which I’m sure you’ll find soon on your closest website.”

    The website WikiLeaks began posting the first of more than 250,000 State Department documents last week, forcing Clinton to reach out to officials in countries all over the world to try to reduce fallout from the document dump.

    The Kennedy Center honors individuals annually for their contributions to the arts. This year’s honorees include Paul McCartney and Oprah Winfrey. The president and first lady will host the honorees at a reception at the White House Sunday afternoon before the awards gala at the Kennedy Center Sunday night.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/05/clinton-jokes-about-wikileaks/

  71. Janh, How does Hillary have time for hosting this event? Didn’t she just get back from overseas? Does she ever get a day off? She is so dedicated…thats what scares the crooks!

  72. I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the awards ceremony for the conversation between HRC and Oprah.

  73. Didn’t she just get back from overseas? Does she ever get a day off?

    ==================

    Probably that WAS her day off. 😉

  74. I don’t understand the hand wringing about the leaks. The New York Times said today that all the leaks show is that one department of the federal government is actually functioning well.

  75. You and me both BigCatLover…lol…

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    All the lavish parties that the obamas continue to give remind me of tragic history repeating itself.

    First we had Napoleon and Josephine who ignored the poverty and hunger, practiced the infamous “let them eat cake” philosophy that resulted in the French Revolution.

    Then we had the Romanovs who continued to fest and be fested while their soldiers were captured by Germany, and the public starved. This too ended in revolution.

    What can we expect this time? And how long do we have to wait?

  76. mj
    December 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    I don’t understand the hand wringing about the leaks. The New York Times said today that all the leaks show is that one department of the federal government is actually functioning well.

    ==================

    Apparently so. Another mountain brings forth a mouse, if that much. Same with Palin’s emails (also at Wikileaks). Like ‘climategate’. Whitewater, Starr’s investigation, etc.

    What wasn’t working well was the DoD computer where the State cable leaked from. Why just STate?

  77. I don’t understand the hand wringing about the leaks. The New York Times said today that all the leaks show is that one department of the federal government is actually functioning well.
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    If you go back to my early posts on the subject that has been my position. The American People have a right to know what their government is doing and we cannot count on the New York Times to tell us the truth. I said I would prosecute the leakers. Since then we have learned that the New York Times is one of the leakers–although they apparently withheld facts damaging to Obama, i.e. the fact that he ordered spying on Canada. The New York Times has been single out as one of the leakers and this has caused voices on the right, i.e. Krauthammer to question whether they should not be subject to legal jeopardy. And although he withdrew that suggestion later on and suggested it apply prospectively, their actions have caused others to question whose side they are on. The answer is they are on their own side and the side of Obama. By minimizing the impact of the leaks they exhonerate their own actions. I would not trust their opinion on this matter because it is tainted with self interest. And we know how far they have gone to promote and now to protect Obama. Their opinion on this matter is a joke, and perhaps that was why it was cited.

  78. “Is anything bigger going on and this is used as a media distraction?”
    _________________

    Yep, Jan’s video:

    PRESIDENT OBAMA RISKS MID-EAST PEACE TALKS & SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON HAD TO SAVE THEM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGNtbdx8BFI

    Obama raised eyebrows across the globe yesterday, when he critized Israel suggesting Jerusalem is within the boundary’s of a settlement. When it is the Capital of the state of Israel while speaking to Muslims.

  79. Does this sound like a man who has the evidence? Going after Obama now.

    WikiLeaks: Obama must come clean or resign

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igLhpFXyv-VRG5thAgiJk0OORBNw?docId=CNG.7936abe2aac85ef50ca11a2d6b6c031b.dc1

    Obama should resign if approved UN spying: WikiLeaks founder

    (AFP) – 45 minutes ago

    MADRID — President President Barack Obama should resign if it can be shown that he approved spying by US diplomatic figures on UN officials, the founder of WikiLeaks said in an interview published Sunday.

    “The whole chain of command who was aware of this order, and approved it, must resign if the US is to be seen to be a credible nation that obeys the rule of law. The order is so serious it may well have been put to the president for approval,” Julian Assange told Spanish daily El Pais.

    “Obama must answer what he knew about this illegal order and when. If he refuses to answer or there is evidence he approved of these actions, he must resign,” he added during an Internet chat interview published online.

    WikiLeaks threw US diplomacy into chaos when it started releasing more than 250,000 classified State Department cables on November 28, creating an international firestorm as American diplomats’ private assessments of foreign leaders and politics have been publicly aired.

    According to one of the documents, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asked for UN personnel’s telephones, emails, credit card details and frequent flier numbers.

    The United States and other governments said the release of the documents broke their laws.

    Assange gave the interview to El Pais on Saturday from an undisclosed location. The 39-year-old Australian is believed to be in Britain, and a report said he could be arrested this week.

  80. pasting gone wild :shrug:

    Obama raised eyebrows across the globe yesterday, when he critized Israel while speaking to Muslims suggesting Jerusalem is within the boundary’s of a settlement. When it is the Capital of the state of Israel
    .

  81. moononpluto
    December 5th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
    Does this sound like a man who has the evidence? Going after Obama now.

    WikiLeaks: Obama must come clean or resign
    ___________________

    Verrrry interesting- The buck STOPS at the Oval Office on Obama’s desk not SOS HRC. 😆

  82. This guy really thinks he’s a God. So is this when obama will finally step up to the plate…now that his name is on the chopping block?

    I hate to say it, but I think Wikileaks founder is starting to sound looney tunes.

  83. Mrs. Smith
    December 5th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

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    So why didn’t he say this in the beginning?

    And how will the media react now that their idol is being attacked?

  84. JanH
    December 5th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    Mrs. Smith
    December 5th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    ——————
    So why didn’t he say this in the beginning?

    And how will the media react now that their idol is being attacked?
    ________________

    Put yourself in his shoes. How would you react finding yourself in the same situation. I’m not trying to be sarcastic. I believe Assange is in flux and what he has decided to do is stabilized his situation and be as he once was, true to himself.

    Assange may be in touch with friendly forces having a mutual enemy in Soros. They may be offering him advise while he makes his case to them, helping him navigate dangerous waters until they come to some type of consensus.

  85. Hi guys, I am away in Istanbul for 4 days from tomorrow, I may or may not be able to post depending on how much time i have, be safe, be happy and remember to keep sticking it to Bambi. xx

  86. I think Wikileaks founder is starting to sound looney tunes.

    —-
    Starting to sound looney tunes…

    Anyone that would do what he is doing, on this scale, is lacking sanity.

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    The little wikiPig is now going after Barry because Hillary didn’t take the bate and is doing the adult version of damage control.

    Barry’s silence on even speaking about the big dumper is now starting to get some attention. Wonder if MSM will pick up the ball or keep him in the closet?

  87. moononpluto
    December 5th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    no computer connections in Istanbul?

    oh, the pain!

    Have a nice vacay- mop..

    C-ya soon.

  88. WikiLeaks: Obama must come clean or resign
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    Who was it who said the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Or is there more to this?

  89. Contemporary politics and “public” policy debates are now dominated by shiny objects and “theater”. The marketing of Obama, anything going on in Congress, TARP, Stim Bill, Health Care, etc., Wiki-leaks, etc..etc. Bread and Circuses for the masses while the “real bidness” is done out of sight. Rethugs way the bloody flag over Sim Legislation while Bush/Cheney and Obama shovel $20+ trillion out the back door to the financial elites. Rethugs are fighting to keep tax cuts for the upper ~0.5% while un/under-employment is >18% and the Chinese are eating out economic “lunch”.

    “China’s three main state-owned oil companies have strengthened their ties to Venezuela’s energy sector, signing six agreements and increasing their investments to a planned $40 billion dollars.

    The deals are the latest of a string of multi-billion dollar South American ventures signed by Chinese companies in recent months, aimed at acquiring major chunks of the continent’s rich resources and at helping fuel China’s economic boom.”…..

    http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=101871&hmpn=1

    The US based multi-national corporations are gaming the system for the next quarters profits and the Chinese are looking decades into the future.

  90. wbboei:

    “Who was it who said the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Or is there more to this?”
    ______________________

    Michael Corlone/Al Pachino.

    Assange is no dummy- However, apparently not versed in the ways of a so called philanthropist.. aka to his friends, a Great White Shark. The rule is- stay away, unless you are bigger than the Hungarian sardine.
    __________________

    Assange’s wiki:

    Julian Paul Assange ( born 3 July 1971) is an Australian journalist,[5][6][7] publisher[8][9] and Internet activist. He is best known as the spokesperson and editor in chief for WikiLeaks, a whistleblower website.

    Before working with the website, he was a physics and mathematics student as well as a computer programmer.

    [10] He has lived in several countries and has told reporters he is constantly on the move. He makes irregular public appearances to speak about freedom of the press, censorship, and investigative reporting; he has also won three journalism awards for his work with WikiLeaks.

    Assange founded the controversial WikiLeaks website in 2006 and serves on its advisory board. In this capacity, he has been involved in the publication of material documenting extrajudicial killings in Kenya, a report of toxic waste dumping on the African coast, Church of Scientology manuals, Guantanamo Bay procedures, and material involving large banks such as Kaupthing and Julius Baer among other documents.[11]

    He has recently received widespread public attention for the publication of classified material from WikiLeaks documenting details about the involvement of the United States in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    On 28 November 2010, WikiLeaks and its five media partners began publishing the United States diplomatic cables leak. According to The Guardian, this has placed Assange “at the centre of intense media speculation and a hate campaign against him in America”.[12]

    On 30 November 2010, Interpol placed Assange on its red notice list of wanted persons;[13] concomitantly, a European Arrest Warrant was issued for him.[14] He is wanted for questioning on suspicion of “sex crimes”; it is reported that while having consensual sex his condom broke and he either did not disclose the breakage to his partner or continued after his partner asked him to stop. He has not been formally charged with any crime.[15]

  91. On 30 November 2010, Interpol placed Assange on its red notice list of wanted persons;[13] concomitantly, a European Arrest Warrant was issued for him.[14] He is wanted for questioning on suspicion of “sex crimes”; it is reported that while having consensual sex his condom broke and he either did not disclose the breakage to his partner or continued after his partner asked him to stop. He has not been formally charged with any crime.[15]
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    Isn’t it convenient that people would be coming forward at this time. Methinks too convenient.

  92. “Methinks too convenient.”
    ___________________

    The standard fallback position when nothing else is working for ya.

  93. I guess the #1 fashion icon in the US misread the Indian mood..Carla Bruni is in India with Sarkozy. No she didn’t dance with the children and as admirable as that is, she wore a lab coat and toured the Indian Space Research Organization alongside her husband and sat in the front row as he addressed some 500 researchers and scientists.

    Unlike Mrs O, who was demurely dressed in India —with below the knee hemlines and full sleeves — Carla’s been flaunting her famously fit body in sharp silhouettes and even a thigh high slit. “Michelle definitely toned down her style for India but Carla is treating us to her Parisian best. She’s a fit, beautiful woman and she knows that modern India can appreciate that,” says fashion editor, Varun Rana.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/fashionandbeauty/Chic-Carla-trumps-Mrs-Obama/Article1-634665.aspx

  94. the New York Times is one of the leakers–although they apparently withheld facts damaging to Obama, i.e. the fact that he ordered spying on Canada.

    ================

    Well, somebody must have published that, or you wouldn’t know about it. So, has anyone found much else in the cables actually scandalous?

  95. Isn’t it convenient that people would be coming forward at this time. Methinks too convenient.

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    Yep. So say a lot of Europeans who have been watching Wikileaks for a long time. Most of what I’ve seen looks like gossip but here is a statement from Assange’s lawyer about off again on again timing by the prosecution. (First drop the case as worthless, then fire the prosecutor, then open it again after US pressure.)

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26867.htm

  96. Assange’s wiki:

    =======================

    Pls distnguish Wikipedia from Wikileaks (and, for that matter, other wiki sites). Do you mean an article AT Wikipedia ABOUT Assange?

  97. As for the other stuff I’ve seen about the ‘rape’ charges. Two women have claimed such encounters, apparently happening within a short time of each other. They each continued friendly relations with Assange with no such claims till after they found out he had also been with the other woman.

    THen they joined forces to talk about ‘rape’ under a definition which says that sex under false pretenses is also rape: ie two-timing them. This was thrown out by the first prosecutor.

    After the first prosecutor was replaced, they came back with the ‘condom’ version.

    One of the women is an experienced muck-raker, author of a web piece about how to ruin a man’s reputation. I’ll look for the link.

  98. Well, somebody must have published that, or you wouldn’t know about it. So, has anyone found much else in the cables actually scandalous?
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    You are right turndown!!!!

    Good work!!!

    As you can see from the attached the Obama directive to spy on Canada was one of the thousands of cables released by wiki leaks and its media partners the Guardian, der Speigel and the New York Times.

    The New York Times did not make an issue of that however. Not like they did with Hillary’s directive vis a vis the UN.

    Comes now the critical question:

    If Obama would order diplomats to spy on our ally Canada, isn’t it reasonable to assume that he was also behind the spying on the UN?

    Nothing on that in the New York Times–eh?

    Comes now Assange alleging that Obama was behind the whole spying program, UN and otherwise. He wants Obama to “come clean”–for the sake of scientific journalism.

    I just a guess’n that maybe–just maybe he is holding aces–like an Obama directive to spy on the UN, which the Hillary cable was in follow up to.

    If that is the case, you can be sure the NY Times will try to hide that story to. So as here we will have to get it from the foreign press.

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2010/11/28/16351291.html

  99. I mean like a good cross examiner, get the Liar In Chief to deny that he ordered diplomats to spy on the UN, get him to say that Chicago politicians always operate on the up and up and then impeach him with the cable which he signed. The I pushed to wrong button won’t work on that one. The world is not as stupid as 58% of the American electorate.

  100. I am watching the TLC Sarah Palin’s Alaska. This probably is the more interesting episode (barring her pontifications). They are hunting for caribou in a remote camp north of Arctic Circle. I have walked in the tundra in the middle of the night alone with still daylight! It is really weird and fantastic at the same time.

  101. wbboei
    December 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    The size the scope and the damage of this wiki leaks all point to a Soros operation.
    ***************

    I think it’s all much a do about nothing. Something to keep us busy while Rome burns.

  102. Is PumaPac still around? I tried to get on there a few days ago and got a cannot connect message. Tried again same message. Attempted with different browsers and got the same thing.

  103. Some notes on Assange’s accusers:

    http://qwstnevrythg.com/2010/09/assange-besieged/
    Anna Ardin (the official complainant) is often described by the media as a “leftist”. [….]
    The second accuser, Sofia Wilen, 26, is Anna’ friend. Here is a video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWh1Mk2_GVg#t=03m42s ] of an Assange press conference where one can see the girls together. Those present at the conference marveled at her groupie-like behavior. Though rock stars are used to girls dying to have sex with them, it is much less common in the harsh field of political journalism. Sofia worked hard to bed Assange, according to her own confession[….]

  104. They are hunting for caribou in a remote camp north of Arctic Circle. I have walked in the tundra in the middle of the night alone with still daylight! It is really weird and fantastic at the same time.
    —————————————————————————-
    There’s a land where the mountains are nameless,
    And the rivers all run God knows where;
    There are lives that are erring and aimless,
    And deaths that just hang by a hair;
    There are hardships that nobody reckons;
    There are valleys unpeopled and still;
    There’s a land — oh, it beckons and beckons,
    And I want to go back — and I will.

  105. I think it’s all much a do about nothing. Something to keep us busy while Rome burns.
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    It undermines Obama. That is the point. He cannot be Savior of the World and Boris Badenough at the same time time. His whole Schick is trust me. Now they can say to him why should we you do not trust us. To which he will say oh but I do trust you. To which they will say if you trust us then why do you spy on us.

  106. wbboei
    December 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    The size the scope and the damage of this wiki leaks all point to a Soros operation.
    ***************

    I think it’s all much a do about nothing. Something to keep us busy while Rome burns.
    ______________

    I have a column that I read every week and the columnist said that he found nothing so far in the leaks that should not have been available by the US press. He said if the press was doing its job, most of what he read would not have to be leaked.

  107. Funny, that poem does not mention mosquitoes
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    No it doesn’t. They are bad in the tundra. They are even bad on the mountains below the snow line. Even out in the Aleutians, worse in the interior.

    In Siberia it is worse still. There are endless bogs which are uninhabitable due to mosquitos–or so I am told.

  108. There’s a land where the mountains are nameless,
    And the rivers all run God knows where;
    There are lives that are erring and aimless,
    And deaths that just hang by a hair;
    There are hardships that nobody reckons;
    There are valleys unpeopled and still;
    There’s a land — oh, it beckons and beckons,
    And I want to go back — and I will.

    ================

    And gaze on naked grandeur where there’s nothing else to gaze on.

  109. I have a column that I read every week and the columnist said that he found nothing so far in the leaks that should not have been available by the US press. He said if the press was doing its job, most of what he read would not have to be leaked.
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    I agree andp.

  110. And gaze on naked grandeur where there’s nothing else to gaze on
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    For some people, Turndown, that is enough:

    They’re making my money diminish;
    I’m sick of the taste of champagne.
    Thank God! when I’m skinned to a finish
    I’ll pike to the Yukon again.
    I’ll fight — and you bet it’s no sham-fight;
    It’s hell! — but I’ve been there before;
    And it’s better than this by a damsite —
    So me for the Yukon once more.

    There’s gold, and it’s haunting and haunting;
    It’s luring me on as of old;
    Yet it isn’t the gold that I’m wanting
    So much as just finding the gold.
    It’s the great, big, broad land ‘way up yonder,
    It’s the forests where silence has lease;
    It’s the beauty that thrills me with wonder,
    It’s the stillness that fills me with peace.

  111. Some say God was tired when He made it;
    Some say it’s a fine land to shun;
    Maybe; but there’s some as would trade it
    For no land on earth—and I’m one.
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    When we drove from Anchorage toward Portage, suddenly you see the Kinai peninusula across Cook Inlet on your right — it is magical. I (a confirmed atheist) exclaimed ‘this is where Gods come to play’ and started to cry.

  112. President Obama’s failure to stand his ground in ongoing negotiations with Republicans on key issues from taxes to jobless benefits has stirred howls of protest from many of his supporters on the left who are beginning to question the president’s leadership skills.

    Supporters say Obama should have been able to close the deal by now on extending the Bush tax cuts for only middle- and lower-income households and renewing another round of unemployment insurance.

    foxnews

    —- how bad does Barry have to get before the majority of obots turn on him?

  113. Speaking of the obots, just looking on the orange kooks site is this post……….pretty amazing considering……..

    President Obama is neither weak nor stupid… nor a progressive

    [snip…bla, bla, bla how smart and brave Barry was to run and ‘win’ as the first black president…]

    So, why would a person of such intelligence make what seems to be so many foolish political decisions? Why does he appear not to come to understand the nature of his opposition? Why does he seem to get rolled on so many issues on so many occasions? Call it The Obama Paradox. Or realize that the answer may lie in the nature of the questions.

    [paradox, his not being progressive nor a rethug…bla, bla, bla)

    But it’s time to consider the possibility that the problem lies with the presumption underlying all these questions and explanations. It’s time to consider that the president accepts centrist and conservative policies because he himself is a centrist or conservative.

    This does not mean that President Obama is a Republican, or anything close to a Republican. The Republican Party is not conservative, it is extremist. But as the Republican Party has drifted farther and farther to the fringe, much of the establishment Democratic Party has intrepidly moved into the ideological space the Republican Party abandoned. The Republicans lead this movement to the right, and the Democrats follow, taking the political center with them and leaving the traditional left ever more disenfranchised, disenchanted, and politically alienated. The problem with Barack Obama isn’t that he is worse than establishment Village Democrats, the problem is that he is one of them. He didn’t change Washington, but he is changing what some who consider themselves liberal or progressive are willing to tolerate, accept, and even support.

    Nobody forced President Obama to escalate the war in Afghanistan. Nobody forced him to expand oil drilling in the Arctic rather than make the case that we need an emergency effort to end our addiction to all fossil fuels. Nobody forced him to have his Department of Justice ignore the Bush administration’s criminality. Nobody forced him to continue secret renditions or a policy of denying suspected terrorists the human right of due process. Nobody forced him to order his DOJ to appeal court rulings that would have ended Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Nobody forced him to open a discussion about the deficit which even puts Social Security and Medicare on the table when the economy desperately needed and needs more Keynesian stimulus. Nobody forced him to keep on Bush’s Defense Secretary. Nobody forced him to hire a neoliberal economic team and ignore the traditional liberal economists who had been almost alone in predicting the economic collapse. None of these moves was forced on him by the Republicans or the Conservadems or the Blue Dogs.

    It’s conventional wisdom to believe that the president gave away the public option for which he had campaigned, while accepting the mandate he campaigned against, and again the arguments are largely about what he might have gotten had he tried. Or the optics of trying. But again the presumption is that he wanted to try. The same goes for the inadequate and ultimately politically disastrous stimulus package. But he himself later admitted that the public option hadn’t ever been that important to him. And his political team, like his more passionate supporters, continually hyped every isolated cherry-picked uptick in economic data as proof that his stimulus plan wasn’t so inadequate after all. Take it at face value. He thought the stimulus was enough. He didn’t care that much about a public option. The agenda so desired by liberals and progressives just wasn’t his agenda.

    But they didn’t force the president’s hand. He pursued the policies as he chose to do, and he fought the fights he chose to fight. He and his team have mocked and disparaged his party’s traditional base. That doesn’t mean he is a Republican. It does indicate the degree to which he buys into what is now conventional thinking among Village Democrats. President Obama is not stupid and he is not weak. He is very smart and he is very courageous. He is pursuing the politics he is pursuing not because anyone is forcing him to, and not because he is being beaten at the political game. He is pursuing the politics he is pursuing because it is who he is.

    Politicians are but political tools, and they are not the only political tools. They are only as useful as the agendas they are willing to pursue. We don’t owe them our loyalty, they owe us theirs….

    but it also means we can’t pretend they are something they are not; and it also means we have to create a climate where there will be better and legitimate alternatives.

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    Wake up you idiots over in cheetoLand, you had the prefect candidate but you are too stupid to see her right in front of your face!!!

  114. A comment to the post from the Cheeto website above… this one got a lot of agreement on his comment:

    ————

    A couple counterfactuals for you (26+ / 0-)

    As you suggest, I think it should be clear to most now that Obama IS a neo-liberal/neo-con who has bought the University of Chicago ideology.

    That means a number of things that I think should trouble any member of the Democratic party except for DLCers and Blue Dogs. I will try to diary this.

    In the meantime, I think there are several questions that remain if we go with your theory. Here are two:

    1. First, Obama clearly did not campaign on a platform of reducing social security benefits and other assorted “conservative” principles/policymaking. So if as you suggest he is very smart and not weak, then he lied. Isn’t the only real solution for such deception a primary challenge?

    2. Second, surely it is incongruous that this “smart” and “powerful” (not weak) man took such a shellacking at the midterms without a fight or clear strategy. Smart people don’t just throw up their hands. There were any one of a number of actions he could have taken to prevent this shellacking, including NOT pissing off the progressive base of the Democratic Party. A “smart” politician surely should realize you don’t intentionally drive voters away, right? My question for you would be how do you square his behavior with your belief that he is “smart”?

    It seems the only way you can square it is to believe that he actually WANTED to lose the midterms. Think about that for a minute. The leader of our party, instead of pushing for great majorities to ensure the passage of the Democratic party platform, actually decided to lose an election so that he could continue to implement far more conservative policies that are clearly NOT what the voters believed he would do when voting for him.

    If this is true, then this is a searing indictment of Obama and he is a highly deceptive individual.

    In this case, he also deserves a primary challenge.

  115. When we drove from Anchorage toward Portage, suddenly you see the Kinai peninusula across Cook Inlet on your right — it is magical. I (a confirmed atheist) exclaimed ‘this is where Gods come to play’ and started to cry.
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    It is beautiful alright. We had operations down to Kenai Peninsula in Homer and Port Graham. There is a Russian community at Anchor Point which is something to see. They were originally from western Russia, fought against the Bolsheviks and fled to Brazil via Hong Kong. They invited President Kennedy to visit them, he did and thereafter they were given refugee status i Alaska, with lots of benefits. Alaskans resent that. My company made some improvident loans to them, which they welched on and I was given the task of collecting what we were owed. They were elusive and my efforts were not crowned with great success. But neither were Stalin’s where they were concerned. It gave me a wonderful reason to spend a winter in the bars up there. Having spent one winter and five summers there I can assure you the summers are better. In those days, everyone brought guns and knives into the bars. Guns, knives and demon rum do not mix.

  116. Wake up you idiots over in cheetoLand, you had the prefect candidate but you are too stupid to see her right in front of your face!!!
    ————————-
    Well put. The funniest thing about them is they do not know their ass from a hole in the ground, but think they are players. Vini vini viche is their motto.

  117. If this is true, then this is a searing indictment of Obama and he is a highly deceptive individual
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    Deceptive? Only to a fool. Those who did their homework and had a modicum of common sense were not deceived.

  118. I spent over 10 years up there–5 were in the area you are talking about and the rest of the state. In those days Sarah was probably living in Idaho. Say what you will about her, she is remarkable. There is no way a woman could have become governor of that state in those days. It is unfortunate that Murkowski is senator because she is part of the big oil cabal which has run the state from time immemorial. Like Crist, Murkowski is what is wrong with politics and why the American People always get screwed.

  119. Mas vale tarde que nunca

    WASHINGTON — In a classic case of shutting the barn door after the horse has left, the Obama administration and the Department of Defense have ordered the hundreds of thousands of federal employees and contractors not to view the secret cables and other classified documents published by Wikileaks and news organizations around the world unless the workers have the required security clearance or authorization.

  120. I would say that wikileakes is a case of much to do about something-meaning thee collateral damage to our diplomatic mission at a time when we are attempting to lead the world. Nice work Barack. Another one for the history books. I am so proud of him. Let us at lead hope that when they carve his likeness on Mount Rushmore they include an appropriate disclaimer. The words clueless and dangerous would be a good start.
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    US forced to shake up embassies around the world after WikiLeaks revelations
    By Guy Adams and Kim Sengupta
    Monday, 6 December 2010SHARE PRINTEMAILTEXT SIZE NORMALLARGEEXTRA LARGE

    The Obama administration is facing a crisis in its diplomatic service

    Battered by a scandal which seems to provide a fresh wave of embarrassment with each passing day, the US government is being forced to undertake a major reshuffle of the embassy staff, military personnel and intelligence operatives whose work has been laid bare by the whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks.

    The Obama administration was yesterday facing a crisis in its diplomatic service, amid growing evidence that the ongoing publication of a tranche of supposedly-confidential communiqués will make normal work difficult, if not dangerous, for important State Department employees across the world.

    A mere 1,100 of the roughly 250,000 secret documents obtained by the website have so far been published, leading to fears that the unhelpful revelations will continue for months to come, destabilising US relations with almost all of its key allies and inflaming tensions with already-hostile governments in the Middle East and beyond. “In the short run, we’re almost out of business,” a senior US diplomat told the Reuters news agency, saying it could take five years to rebuild trust. “It is really, really bad. I cannot exaggerate it. In all honesty, nobody wants to talk to us … Some people still have to, particularly (in) government but … they are already asking us things like, ‘Are you going to write about this?'”

    The Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department are reported to be identifying which members of staff have been named as the authors of the most unhelpful memos to have been published by WikiLeaks. They will need to be removed from what are among America’s most strategically-important postings.

    Among those whose private thoughts have been embarrassingly revealed is Gene Cretz, the US ambassador to Libya who wrote a now-notorious cable to Washington in 2009 noting that that the country’s leader Muammar Gaddafi never travels without his “voluptuous blonde” Ukranian nurse.

    America’s current envoy to the United Nations has also been criticised following the revelation that Hillary Clinton instructed them to procure credit card and frequent flyer numbers, mobile phone numbers, email addresses, passwords and other data from foreign diplomats and top UN officials, including the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

    The difficulty regarding the future of America’s diplomatic service is the fact that the authors of many of the most important emails in the WikiLeaks tranche are among their most-experienced senior staff, and will therefore be tough, if not impossible, to replace. None of the countries that were affected by the WikiLeaks cables had requested the withdrawal of any American diplomatic staff.

    “That’s another part of the tragedy of this,” a senior US national-security official told The Daily Beast website, which yesterday detailed the extent of the crisis on the ground and claimed that the reassignment of affected diplomats had already been planned and would take place in the coming months.

    “We’re going to have to pull out some of our best people – the diplomats who best represented the United States and were the most thoughtful in their analysis – because they dared to report back the truth about the nations in which they serve.”

    Among the foreign governments to have already expressed outrage about the contents of some of the files are those of supposed allies like France, Italy and Turkey, whose Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has threatened to sue the former US Ambassador Eric Edelman over a memo he wrote suggesting that Erdogan had hidden wealth in Swiss bank accounts.

    Old enemies of the US are also upset. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was described in one memo as playing Robin to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s Batman. Cuba and Venezuela were branded an “Axis of Mischief” in a document released at the weekend.

    When the first cables were made public, the White House condemned the release saying it “put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the US for assistance in promoting democracy and open government”.

    Although there have yet to be formal moves to oust the diplomats responsible for the most awkward memos so far revealed, foreign governments are expected to soon begin “PNG-ing” US diplomats, a practice which involves demanding the removal of an official by branding them “persona non grata”.

    “We think it’s only a matter of time, though,” one State Department official told The Daily Beast. Diplomatic sources told The Independent that there no immediate plans to move staff because that would suggest they had done something wrong and damage confidence.

    Tensions with Arab states

    The latest leaked memos reveal that Hillary Clinton criticised the Saudi government, saying the country was the world’s largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups but that its politicians were reluctant to stem the flow of money. In the memo, dated December 2009, she told US diplomats that “Riyadh has taken only limited action” to interrupt the flow of money to the Taliban and groups launching attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. She added that Hamas raised millions in Saudi, often from Hajj and Ramadan pilgrims. The note also highlighted Qatar, Kuwait and the UAE as sources of militant money and singled Qatar out as “the worst in the region” for not co-operating with Washington.

  121. Here’s something I translated from French coverage of Sarkozy’s visit to India. May seem off-topic, but it brings to mind the expensive flop that was Ø’s escapade to India just a few weeks ago. Ø should have brought Me-shell! She would have attracted more attention than the boob, who just bored and annoyed the Indians.

    *****
    Le Figaro

    Carla Sarkozy, “Darling” of Indian paparazzis

    First lady mobilizes media attention in Bangalore and Agra

    The printed press sets the tone in India. The Economic Times says, “Only the visit of British Crown Prince Charles with Diana Spencer had aroused so much attention”, more than 15 years ago. The daily also says that the “paparazzi darling” drew “as much if not more press attention than her husband.”

    The first lady’s arrival in Bangalore was covered in rich detail by the media, going into the presidential couple’s body language during the 5-hour rush through the Indian high-tech capital. Nothing escaped them in the second phase of the trip to Agra in the Indian north, With long commentaries on the sudden decision to visit the Taj Mahal “for 40 minutes” to see the sunset. The newspapers lamented that “everyone was ready for a visit the following morning,” mentioning a “romantic tourist” stop on a trip that was otherwise devoted to “trade” and “international challenges”.

    The press also covered the first lady’s visit to a very popular maternity ward in Delhi “where no foreign leader has yet gone,” and a second visit to a home for AIDS orphans – two illustrations of her WHO ambassador’s mission to fight AIDS to mothers and children.

    The first lady’s entourage notes that “India’s reaction is like Brazil’s, where she was incredibly well received.” “Carla is not a trade argument, because she doesn’t sign anything, and she knows very well that it all plays out on another level,” says an adviser to the president, “but she contributes a lot to the interest for this visit.”

    One of the Carla Bruni’s friends, who recalls that Carla recently became the heroin of the American “Female Force” commix next to Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher, dares to say, “the first lady’s star power is planetary, and people have understood too that she’s not always on the move, but only for the big occasions…. We had to turn down a big Bollywood party that a producer wanted to hold in her honor.”

    After the official visits of David Cameron early in the year, of Barack Obama three weeks ago, and leading into those of Dmitri Medvedev in 2 weeks and the Chinese prime minister just after that, the French president needed to play the best cards in his hand to arouse the curiosity and pleasure of this country that is attracting all the great powers of the UN Security Council.

    In Carla’s meeting with the leader of the powerful Congress Party, Sonia Gandhi, on Sunday evening, no one knows if they conducted their exchange in Italian, which is the native language to both of them. But it would of course all be in the interests of French diplomacy.

    ***
    [Wasn’t Sonia Gandhi the one Ø overlooked?]

  122. [Assange] is wanted for questioning on suspicion of “sex crimes”
    ____________

    Isn’t it convenient that people would be coming forward at this time. Methinks too convenient.

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    The standard fallback position when nothing else is working for THEM.

    ================

    Yep. Like the ‘masseuses’ sex charge against Gore.

  123. Interesting charts on healthcare over decades, and in various couontries. US life expectancy is not impressive, comparatively.

  124. I didn’t need my PhD to see Obama was a charlatan in 2008 before he was nominated. You don’t need one now either to stop yourself from making the same mistake twice..

    You don’t have to be a rocket scientist nor have a PhD in political science and sociology to see clearly that Obama has abandoned much of the base that elected him. He has done this because he no longer respects, fears or believes those persons who elected him have any alternative, but to accept what he does, whether they like it or not.

    It is time for those persons who constituted the “Movement” that enabled Senator Barack Obama to be elected to “break their silence”; to indicate that they no longer will sit on their hands, and only let off verbal steam and ineffective sound and fury, and “hope” for the best.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clarence-b-jones/time-to-think-to-unthinka_b_792237.html

  125. oh, boy! where is all this venom coming from? 😉 They are piling on him in the HOPEs of trying to CHANGE him.

    The coalition that got Barack Obama elected President just two years ago has been shattered. Gaming out the trajectory of the next two years can be done any number of ways, but Obama’s efforts to rebuild a politically robust alliance will be the most telling. It may be the biggest challenge of his career — and he will need happenstance along with skill if he is going to get it done.

    A survey of the political landscape shows that many groups who were part of the 2008-09 Obama coalition have turned on him. Liberals believe he is an overcompromising wimp. (See blistering recent columns by progressive icons Paul Krugman and Frank Rich of the New York Times for a taste of what the left thinks of “their” President now.) The business community considers Obama ignorant about markets at best, a socialist at worst (O.K., some business people entertain an even harsher assessment). The media, after aiding and abetting his ride to the White House, now see the President as incompetent and overwhelmed. The independents and Republicans who backed him for office currently feel he is too liberal and too weak to do the job. These trends are all worse in Washington and among opinion leaders than they are in the country at large, but the views of elites are clearly shaping how the President is perceived by the nation in general.

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2035270,00.html#ixzz17Lqbaw3r

  126. And didn’t he say ‘we are the ones we are waiting for’. Well, for 0bots, it is a royal ‘we’ meaning Obama. He always wanted to be royalty, anyway.

  127. Something you won’t read in a US media outlet:

    While American officials have publicly been relatively upbeat about their progress in disrupting terrorist financing, the internal State Department cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to several news organizations, offer a more pessimistic account, with blunt assessments of the threats to the United States from money flowing to militants affiliated with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other groups.

    A classified memo sent by Mrs. Clinton last December made it clear that residents of Saudi Arabia and its neighbors, all allies of the United States, are the chief financial supporters of many extremist activities. “It has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority,” the cable said, concluding that “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.”

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/wikileaks%20revelations/wikileaks-how-cash-flows-to-terrorists-70785?cp

  128. Typical progressives . . . let them eat cake. Watch the language of the Left. They conflate the word progressive with the word populist. Progressive is top down government. Populist is bottom up government. When progressives control the party, it is the party of lifestyle for them, and the party of indentured servitude to government for everyone else. Just look at this pair. When the economic system collapses government cannot sit idly by. It has to take an active role. But when it does so, let us not destroy the entrepeunrial incentive in the process, and restructure our society. To do that in the middle of a recession is madness. They have hollowed our our economy and are telling us we must learn to live with 10% unemployment. If you accept that premise however there will be an increase in property crime rates, and the ceiling becomes the floor for further erosion.
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    Wikileaks: Assange kind of like … Osama bin Laden?Share3posted at 9:30 am on December 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
    printer-friendly Last week, I criticized Rep. Peter King’s proposal to list Wikileaks as a terrorist organization, but who knew I’d get a rebuttal from — Wikileaks?
    The Daily Caller says Wikileaks is now “actively taunting” the US over its leaks, but that’s really just whistling in the wind. The US hasn’t yet indicted Assange, so it has no brief to arrest him. However, Interpol still wants him over rape charges filed by Sweden, which is why Assange is on the run at the moment. However, unlike Osama bin Laden, Assange is still trying to conduct interviews and push publicity for his website, which means that any serious effort to find him would likely succeed in short order. OBL at least was smart enough to head to Pakistan and hide in the mountains, a place where Assange would last all of about five minutes.
    Besides, as David Burchell reports in today’s edition of The Australian, the bigger problem is the lack of exercise of American power where it’s most needed:
    These past two years it has become received wisdom in influential sections of the foreign policy community that, in the wake of the Bush administration’s foreign policy excesses and errors, the chief imperative of US foreign policy is to avoid any further foreign entanglements. In the pursuit of this shimmering transcendent goal, however, it soon enough becomes necessary to use any and every argument that comes to hand, no matter how implausible.
    Thus Iran-apologists such as former State Department officials Floyd and Hillary Leverett – who holidayed in Tehran’s best uptown hotels while, downtown, protesters were seized at random off the streets and beaten into a state of permanent incapacity, or sexually violated with broken bottles – are associated with prestigious progressive think-tanks, and invited to speak at respectable gatherings of international relations scholars. And their considered view that the Iranian regime is a victim of unrestrained US aggression is taken as a mainstream scholarly opinion.
    Yet these are the same Leveretts who insisted, 18 months ago in The Washington Post, that Iran’s elections were not only free and fair, but actually freer and fairer than those of their own country. Even though, as the WikiLeaks cables have now clarified, US diplomats knew all along that the result was fixed; and further knew that the actual election figures were very similar to those revealed by a brave young official in the Iranian Information Ministry, Mohammad Asghari, who paid for this act of heroism with his life, only to have his information greeted with pure white silence in Washington. …
    Take this assessment relayed from Amman by ambassador Stephen Beecroft, two months before Obama’s soaring and eloquent, if foolish and empty, Cairo peroration: “Jordanian leaders’ comments betray a powerful undercurrent of doubt that the US knows how to deal effectively with Iran. Foreign Minister Nasser Joudeh has suggested the Iranians would be happy to let talks with the US continue for 10 years without moving them forward, believing that they can benefit from perceived acceptance after years of isolation without paying a price.”
    Or take this honest but doomed communication from Timothy Richardson, acting director of America’s Iran Regional Presence Office in Dubai: “Any US effort to engage the current Iranian government will be perceived by a wide spectrum of Arabs as accommodation with [President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad.” Isn’t this what any moderately informed, intelligent Western observer would also have concluded, had political affections not required them to pretend otherwise?
    Maybe Assange feels that he can make these boasts because the current administration isn’t as focused on confronting threats as it is on apologizing for the use of American power, even its legitimate uses. And if Assange feels that sanguine about it, how do our enemies perceive us?

  129. Something you won’t read in a US media outlet:

    While American officials have publicly been relatively upbeat about their progress in disrupting terrorist financing, the internal State Department cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to several news organizations, offer a more pessimistic account, with blunt assessments of the threats to the United States from money flowing to militants affiliated with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other groups.

    A classified memo sent by Mrs. Clinton last December made it clear that residents of Saudi Arabia and its neighbors, all allies of the United States, are the chief financial supporters of many extremist activities. “It has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority,” the cable said, concluding that “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.”
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    Excellent. What would the censors say in response to this little tid bit getting out? Would they say the American Public does not need to know this. If it gets out it could cause panic and profiling by the great unwashed. That is probably the attitude, and it just goes to show you how wrong they are–the New York Times and the rest of them. They think they are some modern day version of the Hayes Commission, the Volstead Act or some other effort by the elites to protect the public from itself. This is the antithesis of the principles of self government enshrined in the Constitution. We do not need to be ruled by a Bevy of Platonic Guardians, and frankly we are deeply suspicious of their real motives when they presume to tell us how we must lead our lives, and what we are permitted to know.

  130. A survey of the political landscape shows that many groups who were part of the 2008-09 Obama coalition have turned on him. Liberals believe he is an overcompromising wimp. (See blistering recent columns by progressive icons Paul Krugman and Frank Rich of the New York Times for a taste of what the left thinks of “their” President now.) The business community considers Obama ignorant about markets at best, a socialist at worst (O.K., some business people entertain an even harsher assessment). The media, after aiding and abetting his ride to the White House, now see the President as incompetent and overwhelmed. The independents and Republicans who backed him for office currently feel he is too liberal and too weak to do the job. These trends are all worse in Washington and among opinion leaders than they are in the country at large, but the views of elites are clearly shaping how the President is perceived by the nation in general.
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    These are stupid people to have ever fallen for him in the first place. If you dig into the specifics, you will find in many if not most cases, they put shallow personal goals and ignorance ahead of the interests of the country. They are the problem. Obama is what he is. Nothing more and nothing less. It only bothers these people when the flames begin to lick at their heels. As a group, they don’t give a tinkers damned if the unemployment rate goes higher. In the final analysis these are the people who witnessed the death of democracy which occurred in 2008 and ratified it by voting for him.

  131. wbboei, they are more interested in getting scanners on old women and 3 yr old children. The scanners they bought from their political money makers. Obama with all his purported charm and kowtowing to the Saudis can’t even get them to stop financing the terror organizations that harm his own people.

  132. The Republicans are behaving like rubes. When they talk only about extending the Bush tax cuts, they leave the door open for Bambi to come back and write the headline that he is insisting on the extension of unemployment benefits as the quid pro quo. What they need to do is be explicit that they will extend benefits if and only if taxes cuts are extended. In other words, condition it in that manner, so his minions cannot come back as they have today in USA Today and paint the headline that he is insisting on the extension of unemployment benefits. This strategy is called Boulwarism, and it was applied effectively against unions to diminish their status. Put the whole deal out there and leave them nothing to negotiate. It was so effective in undermining unions that the NLRB ruled that it was an unfair labor practice, but where obama is concerned he is a master of lying, cheating and stealing and it is time he got some of his own medicine.

  133. The goal here has got to be to undermine him without undermining the country. Do not give him any political victories. And when he tunnels under with executive orders, haul him into court. I doubt they will do it that way, which is why I am underwhelmed with what I am seeing. After the first two years, they owe him nothing. Give him something which is impossible to veto, and does nothing for him politically–that would be the goal. When you have a thug on the ropes, never let him up.

  134. I wouldn’t mind as much for the extension of unemployment benefits being used as a bargaining chip in extending tax cuts for the top 2% if apples were equal to apples.

    If unemployment payments equal (IE) an average of $1000/month, then the top 2% could only get the max. equivalent of savings based on the total of unemployment covered.

    I also think a better way to do it, is only give tax cuts to the 2% that actually have 10 or more employees instead of anyone that uses the excuse that these folks are all small business owners, when most are not.
    Employing a couple of people or none should not be a cover when these people have loop holes that save them money in the first place.

    I would like to see the taxes restructured where everyone pays a fair amount and the rich do not get all the tax breaks.

  135. My personal opinion is….the republicans love Obama! He is doing everything they want and only letting him have the victories that they can later throw back in his face, which they will do.

  136. GENEVA – The Swiss postal system stripped WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of a key fundraising tool Monday, accusing him of lying and immediately shutting down one of his bank accounts.

    The swift action by Postfinance, the financial arm of Swiss Post, came after it determined the “Australian citizen provided false information regarding his place of residence during the account opening process.”

    Assange had told Postfinance he lived in Geneva but could offer no proof that he was a Swiss resident, a requirement of opening such an account.

    Postfinance spokesman Alex Josty told The Associated Press the account was closed Monday afternoon and there would be “no criminal consequences” for misleading authorities.

    “That’s his money, he will get his money back,” Josty said. “We just close the account and that’s it.”

    The setback leaves Assange with only a few options for raising money for his secret-spilling site through a Swiss-Icelandic credit card processing center and accounts in Iceland and Germany.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101206/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks_59

  137. confloyd
    December 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    My personal opinion is….the republicans love Obama! He is doing everything they want and only letting him have the victories that they can later throw back in his face, which they will do.

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    I agree confloyd, what a perfect setup for them, maybe he really is Rove and Brazillenut’s baby.

  138. A survey of the political landscape shows that many groups who were part of the 2008-09 Obama coalition have turned on him. Liberals believe he is an overcompromising wimp. (See blistering recent columns by progressive icons Paul Krugman and Frank Rich of the New York Times for a taste of what the left thinks of “their” President now.) The business community considers Obama ignorant about markets at best, a socialist at worst (O.K., some business people entertain an even harsher assessment). The media, after aiding and abetting his ride to the White House, now see the President as incompetent and overwhelmed. The independents and Republicans who backed him for office currently feel he is too liberal and too weak to do the job. These trends are all worse in Washington and among opinion leaders than they are in the country at large, but the views of elites are clearly shaping how the President is perceived by the nation in general.

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2035270,00.html#ixzz17MMk5nhs

  139. The real question is what Mr. Obama and his inner circle are thinking. Do they really believe, after all this time, that gestures of appeasement to the G.O.P. will elicit a good-faith response?

    What’s even more puzzling is the apparent indifference of the Obama team to the effect of such gestures on their supporters. One would have expected a candidate who rode the enthusiasm of activists to an upset victory in the Democratic primary to realize that this enthusiasm was an important asset. Instead, however, Mr. Obama almost seems as if he’s trying, systematically, to disappoint his once-fervent supporters, to convince the people who put him where he is that they made an embarrassing mistake.

    Whatever is going on inside the White House, from the outside it looks like moral collapse — a complete failure of purpose and loss of direction.

    It would be much easier, of course, for Democrats to draw a line if Mr. Obama would do his part. But all indications are that the party will have to look elsewhere for the leadership it needs.

    Krugman NYTs

  140. Shadowfax,
    I agree confloyd, what a perfect setup for them, maybe he really is Rove and Brazillenut’s baby
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    Would you think the republicans would have wanted some way to avert Hillary from getting the nomination??? I think they are just diabolical enough to do so….I think Rove is capable of it. Money is not a problem for them.

    Do you think Obama is enough of a gold digger to be bought off by the republicans? LOL! I most certainly do…Obama is interested in Obama…he would throw is own grannie out with the bath water if he could make himself some money, live like a king for awhile and undermine every poor person in America. I think he would do it in a heartbeat.

  141. WASHINGTON – After a 5-2 vote, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has issued its report criticizing the Justice Department for its handling of voting rights accusations against the New Black Panther Party.

    The report, approved Nov. 19 but released Friday, has been published on the commission’s website. It says the department has failed to cooperate with the investigation and left open the question of whether political interference played a role in limiting action against the New Black Panther Party.

    It recommended the Justice Department give the commission additional authority to prevent future conflicts of interest that arise when it asks for information from the attorney general or department. It notes that refusal to comply with commission requests creates an inherent conflict of interest since the commission is an adjunct of the Justice Department.

    The commission report stated that it was stonewalled by the department after it subpoenaed the department for documents and asked for testimony by key witnesses, “including those supervisors allegedly responsible for the change in course of the lawsuit.”

    “The department, however, refused to allow anyone with firsthand knowledge of the lawsuit to testify before the Commission and failed to provide critical documents relating to the Department’s decision-making process,” the commission stated.

    The case stemmed from an incident in Philadelphia during the 2008 presidential election in which two New Black Panther Party members, King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson, stood in the entrance to a polling place wearing paramilitary gear and shouting racial slurs. One of the men had a nightstick.

    A criminal investigation into the episode was dropped by the Bush administration, but a civil suit was brought in January 2009 against the men for alleged Voting Rights Act violations. But after a default verdict, the department dropped the charges in May 2009 against all but one of the defendants and reduced the punishment against the last.

    Evidence obtained by the commission puts the department’s “version of events into serious doubt,” reads the report. It relies heavily on the testimony of former Voting Rights lawyers Christopher Coates and J. Christian Adams.

    The men have described hostility from senior officials and career attorneys to pursuing Voting Rights Act accusations against minorities who harass white voters.

    The Republican and independent appointees voted to adopt the report, while the two Democratic appointees voted against it. Abigail Thernstrom, a Republican appointee and vice chairwoman of the panel, was absent.

    Thernstrom has said accusations against the department are overblown, especially considering that there is no evidence that the presence of the New Black Panther leaders scared anyone away from voting.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/05/rights-commission-raps-doj-black-panther-case/#ixzz17MZNGhf0

  142. wbboei,
    The goal here has got to be to undermine him without undermining the country. Do not give him any political victories. And when he tunnels under with executive orders, haul him into court. I doubt they will do it that way, which is why I am underwhelmed with what I am seeing. After the first two years, they owe him nothing. Give him something which is impossible to veto, and does nothing for him politically–that would be the goal. When you have a thug on the ropes, never let him up.
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    If only they would, but in my opinion…they aren’t going to…it will be interesting to watch exactly how they are going to fool everyone though!

  143. confloyd

    I think Hillary running for President again is the Rethugs greatest fear.
    They know she is the best of all candidates that could run.

  144. A criminal investigation into the episode was dropped by the Bush administration, but a civil suit was brought in January 2009 against the men for alleged Voting Rights Act violations. But after a default verdict, the department dropped the charges in May 2009 against all but one of the defendants and reduced the punishment against the last.

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    Now why would the Bush administration drop this??? There couldn’t be a deal in a back room made somewhere could there be…

    Looks like the commission just blew the whole thing off, just like they did during the primary…nothing was done…Obama skates again!

  145. Shadowfax,
    And now she knows where all the bodies are buried, LOL! This wikileaks target was just sooo apparent and then suddenly he was calling for Obama to resign….just mirrors, b.s., smoke…they are after Hillary!

  146. I still believe, and even more than I did in 07′ that Hillary is the “one” we need to clean up the corruption….and that’s what all this shit is about…they are scared shitless of her….cause she can’t be bought….to bad more people can’t realize that….we’d have America back pretty damn quick!

    The republicans had a taste of Hillary when she was an idealistic 22 year old serving on the commission to impeach Richard Nixon…..they certainly kept a folder on her ever since…..they know her very well….and she scares them.

  147. confloyd

    And now she knows where all the bodies are buried,

    …they are after Hillary!

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    Yup and yup.
    That’s probably why she laughs when they ask if she is running for President again.

    She knows all the dirty little traps and lies……the whole political arena is full of jackals, traitors and thugs.
    I wouldn’t blame her if she just works with Bill in his Global Co.

  148. Shadowfax,
    I bet your right about that laugh, although it could be that she has a MASTER PLAN! LOL! She and Bill have always outsmarted their dumbasses and they will again, unless their just getting to old for the thrill! BTW, which I doubt!

  149. Riverdaughter is pounding the idiot obots:

    Monday: The Awakening is Very Rude

    I lived with my grandmother for some short stretches of time when I was a kid. I had a tiny little bedroom tucked under the eaves with a window that overlooked the woods adjacent to the house. Every night, my gran would turn down my bed and send me comfortably off to sleep. And then, some eight hours later, there would be a sharp THWAPP!, the shade on that window would fly up and flap, flap, flap and my gran, definitely a morning person, would sing in a loud voice:

    “Lazy Mary, will you get up, will you get up, will you get up
    Lazy Mary, will you get up, so early in the Morn-ning!”

    Irritating? You betcha. But very effective.

    Last night’s Virtually Speaking featured two bloggers who sounded like they got the Lazy Mary treatment. After a week of outrages, the left blogosphere is waking up to the very real scenario that they picked the worng guy. Very wrong. Marcy Wheeler (aka emptywheel) and Stuart Zechman are finally outraged. They have reached the stage of outrage and righteous indignation that we felt in 2008 when Obama and the DNC decided that votes for Hillary Clinton from the big states did not count (or if you were living in MI or FL, counted for half a person). Doesn’t feel so good, does it guys? And he doesn’t have to listen to you. Nope.

    What’s more disturbing is the number of somewhat reasonable bloggers who started to doubt Obama some time ago who are railing against Hillary now. It’s like bombing Iraq for something Al Qaeda in Afghanistan did. Some have even suggested that Hillary is some nefarious anti free speech authoritarian Josephine Stalin, chasing down Julian Assange, disconnecting Wikileaks from the Tubez and personally ending the free internet as we know it. They overlook the fact that the long awaited State Department cables were released and circulated for days before any action was taken by Amazon to stop hosting Wikileaks. They forget that Hillary has handled this crisis in a cool, level headed fashion with steely resolve and that this may have a stabilizing effect on diplomacy. But what really seems to be incensing them is that the rest of the world isn’t incensed with that brazen hussy. Give it a rest guys. And I do mean guys. Your pathology is showing.

    What it it about Hillary that drives guys straight into crazyland anyway? Do they secretly regret not voting for her now that she’s shown herself to be the real deal and Obama’s, um, not? Now they must punish her for being who we always said she was? Does she make them feel impotent that they can’t validate all of the crazy ass shit they threw at her? That’s she’s not that bad, seems to know what she’s doing and that the cables haven’t uncovered any smoking guns against her, or at least nothing the general public isn’t perfectly willing to live with?

    It’s not our problem if they made a monumentally huge mistake in 2008. They’re the ones who chose to overlook the fact that the party, with Obama’s blessing, trashed the fair reflection of 18,000,000 Democratic primary voters. Yep, denied them a voice, stole their votes, stole whole states of delegates at the convention and these blogger activists raised nary a peep. It’s a little ironic now to be accusing Hillary Clinton of authoritarianism after the fraudulent sham primary elections of 2008 where the rest of us were shut out of the democratic process and were told to surrender our votes to the Lightbringer. You didn’t really think that you were exceptions to the rule and that Obama was going to give you a seat at the table and treat your concerns seriously after you just stabbed half of your party in the back for him? Did you?

    But the constant harping on Hillary, blaming her for everything they don’t like about the Obama administration is starting to verge on self parody. Get over it, guys. If you wanted less of a unified executive, less torture and no wars, you shouldn’t have voted for a man who was too greedy for power to wait his turn and too inexperienced a politician to deliver those things for you. And in case you aren’t aware, acting on the things you care about is not Secretary of State’s job. She doesn’t get to make those decisions. Hillary Clinton is not the president. Remember? You had a hand in that. Therefore, you can’t hang the albatrosses of this administration’s failures around her neck. Obama is the guy who is perpetuating wars and torture. Obama is screwing over the unemployed. Obama is the guy who appointed the catfood commission. Obama is the guy who is negotiating to give away whatever is left in the safe to the uber wealthy. Obama is the guy who appointed the FCC regulators overseeing the Comcast dispute with Level Three. Obama is the guy who is blowing you off.

    Hillary is only the secretary of state who is diligently doing her job, which is limited to diplomacy.

    I think we know how the next couple of days will go. The Marcys and the Stuarts will continue to fume indignantly about how Obama betrayed them but the CDS trolls will infiltrate their blog comment threads and the trigger words will come out, “NAFTA”, “Welfare Reform”, “triangulation”, will be repeated ad nauseum to the vulnerable to get them back in line. Nothing is scarier than the prospect of having another Clinton in the White House. Let’s not even go there.

    Well, if that’s what they want. I guess they’re stuck with Obama then, because the other proposed candidates for primarying Obama are non-starters. They are still living in crazytown if they think that they can appoint the next candidate to run for president and that the other uncouth, dirty working class side of the party is just going to go along with it. The rest of the party doesn’t much care for their way of getting presidents. Denying people a real choice is a sure fired way to reduce the size of your party.

    So, they can continue to knock themselves unconscious bashing themselves on Hillary Clinton’s image, a lot of pointless sound and fury, signifying nothing. If they want to complain about Obama and make an impact, beating up on his secretary of state whipping boy is about as ineffective a strategy as they’re going to get. Direct your ire at the man in charge or continue to be rudely awakened.

  150. Confloyd
    My worst fear is that Hillary will throw in the towel because she is just sick of all the idiots she has to deal with.

    She might decide working with Bill is more productive…I sure hope not, or we will be back to square one voting for the best of two terrible candidates.

  151. Sorry, apparently I omitted the link and now have stupidly lost it! (Lost the link I mean. I lost other ‘its’ long ago, some would say. 😉

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    turndownobama
    December 6th, 2010 at 6:59 am

    Interesting charts on healthcare over decades, and in various couontries. US life expectancy is not impressive, comparatively.

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    NewMexicoFan
    December 6th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    turndownobama 6:59

    Was there a previous link and I missed it?

  152. Watch the language of the Left. They conflate the word progressive with the word populist. Progressive is top down government. Populist is bottom up government. When progressives control the party, it is the party of lifestyle for them, and the party of indentured servitude to government for everyone else.

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    Hillary called herself a Progressive, and other good guys (ie strong HIllary supporters) use that term for themselves also. Iirc she called herself a “early 20th century progressive”, as FDR has also been called.

    Imo the words are on two different axes. A populist movement could support either more ‘progressive’ programs (such as Social Security), or a ‘small government’ philosopy (as the Tea Party mostly seems to), or some mixture.

  153. Is this the Keystone Kops presidency? Barack Obama needs to get serious about WikiLeaks

    By Nile Gardiner
    December 6th, 2010

    The White House strategy so far has been to largely ignore WikiLeaks, and let Hillary Clinton and the State Department handle the fall-out from the debacle. The president hasn’t even commented publicly on the release of over a quarter of a million US diplomatic cables, despite the immense damage the leak is doing to American diplomacy and US strategic interests on the world stage. He is giving all the appearance of a commander-in-chief who is not in control, with an inept administration that seems to blunder from one crisis to another, at times with no-one at the helm.

    That’s surely going to have to change, with WikiLeaks now dramatically upping the stakes with the release of some extremely sensitive documents which will be exploited by terrorist groups across the world, including al-Qaeda. As The Times has just reported:

    WikiLeaks raised the stakes tonight in its battle with the United States with the release of a secret list of vaccine suppliers, mineral sources and pieces of infrastructure that Washington believes would harm US security if attacked.

    Experts said the cable, published by the whistle-blower website as part of an unauthorised trove of diplomatic correspondence, was a gift for terrorist organisations wanting to harm the United States as it spelt out the pipelines, undersea cables and factories across the world — including a number in Britain — that would cause most damage to US interests if destroyed.

    The WikiLeaks disclosures are not only embarrassing for Washington on the world stage – they also pose a fundamental threat to the security of the United States and key allies including Great Britain. And it’s the third time this year that the nefarious organisation has dumped vast numbers of confidential US documents on the Internet with complete impunity, aided and abetted by The New York Times and several international newspapers.

    It’s time for the president to start showing some real leadership and responsibility in the face of a major threat to American interests, and treat the Wikileaks issue as a top priority, rather than ignoring it as some kind of annoying sideshow. Barack Obama needs to personally outline to the American people how his administration is going to prevent future leaks, and deliver a pledge to do all he can to hunt down Julian Assange and his accomplices and bring them to justice. The president must let America’s enemies know there are consequences for their actions, and demonstrate that the world’s superpower will act against them, not least as a warning to others who seek to emulate their actions. As Charles Krauthammer put it in a superb piece last week in The Washington Post:

    Want to prevent this from happening again? Let the world see a man who can’t sleep in the same bed on consecutive nights, who fears the long arm of American justice… it would be nice if people like Assange were made to worry every time they go out in the rain.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100066858/is-this-the-keystone-cops-presidency-barack-obama-needs-to-get-serious-about-wikileaks/

  154. Hillary called herself a Progressive
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    Her reference was to the progressive movement at the turn of the century epitomized by social organizations like the Salvation Army, and the politics of Teddy Roosevelt and Robert Follete. Those people and organizations sought to help people in need and were a reaction to the excesses of the Gilded Age. Much of Hillarys early work on behalf of women and children and voting rights for Hispanics in Texas were charateristic of an old school progressive. The people who parade under that banner today are members of the hard left and their target is not the wealthy but the middle class. In fact, many members of the wealthy support and participate in this totalitarian movement. I can understand your comment in light of what Beck has done to conflate the two, but they are as different as night and day. Interestingly, the first leaders of the progressive movement werr Republicans who opposed the excesses of their own party.

  155. Drudge trying to make Hillary look foolish

    Drudge is a dick and maybe the evil twin of Dick Morris.

    They love to hate Hillary.

  156. As much as I did not like the way she acted towards Hillary, May God help her now.

    Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement

    (CNN) – Elizabeth Edwards is surrounded by family and friends in her North Carolina home after being informed by her doctors that further cancer treatment would be unproductive.

    “Elizabeth has been advised by her doctors that further treatment of her cancer would be unproductive,” the Edwards family said Monday in a statement. “She is resting at home with family and friends and has posted this message to friends on her Facebook page.”

    Edwards’ message reads:

    “You all know that I have been sustained throughout my life by three saving graces – my family, my friends, and a faith in the power of resilience and hope. These graces have carried me through difficult times and they have brought more joy to the good times than I ever could have imagined. The days of our lives, for all of us, are numbered. We know that. And, yes, there are certainly times when we aren’t able to muster as much strength and patience as we would like. It’s called being human.

    “But I have found that in the simple act of living with hope, and in the daily effort to have a positive impact in the world, the days I do have are made all the more meaningful and precious. And for that I am grateful. It isn’t possible to put into words the love and gratitude I feel to everyone who has and continues to support and inspire me every day. To you I simply say: you know.”

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/06/elizabeth-edwards-stops-cancer-treatment-releases-statement/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

  157. Shadowfax,

    I doubt he’s even going to notice. He still hasn’t acknowledged that he lost big time in the mid-terms and that it was his fault.

    He’s too busy blaming everything on his fat lip. Apparently he stumbled pretty badly in his speech during the Kennedy Centre event and blamed it on his 12 measly stitches.

    Sheesh you would think no one else has ever had an injury as bad as that.

    And the whining continues…

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