Call Him Shirley: Barack Obama, WikiLeaks, And Hillary Clinton

Leslie Nielsen is alive and well and vacationing in the White House. Don’t believe the reports that the actor who played stumbling, bumbling, characters died a few days ago. It’s not true. Plus the busted lip and higher melanin levels, the stumbling boob that Nielsen portrayed lives on in Barack Obama. Call Barack Shirley.



Yesterday’s WikiLeaks publicity bonanza brings so many memories from the 2008 primary/general election campaigns. Big Media back then was so impressed at Obama’s generational vigor. Why, back then there was astonishment expressed because the Obama campaign utilized the same fonts on the signage and literature.

Recall the amazement when Big Media discovered that Obama knew how to operate a Blackberry? Big Media JournoListers ran to the Thesaurus for additional words with which to praise Obama and his modern age genius. Social media? Big Media could not swoon often enough about Obama’s genius use of social media and blogs as campaign auxiliaries. But it was all a crock.

For all the vaunted expertise of Barack Obama and his campaign in their use of social media and Big Boy Blogs as propaganda tools, the fact of the matter is that social media and the blogs were only echo chambers for the larger echo chamber which was Big Media. For all the praise about the vaunted use of technology by the Obama campaign the bottom line is that it was all publicity tricks by the Obama campaign – which understood Big Media wanted to farm new fields in praise of Barack Obama. So, the Obama campaign pushed the line that they were so savvy in the ways of new technology. But now we know Obama and those that surround him have no idea, or don’t care, about the ways of new technology.

When Bill Clinton moved into the White House his staff discovered a lack of electrical outlets and equipment such as fax machines then needed ubiquitously in any modern office. It took a while but the White House was rewired and made ready for the explosion to come as the Internet Age came into being.

Bill Clinton rewired the White House to provide electricity for the new gizmos and contraptions and machines which not only helped bring about the Internet Age but spawned even more new gizmos, contraptions and whatchamacallits as the dot com boom boomed. Bill Clinton understood that the White House and the U.S. government had to be brought into 1992 and towards that end he requested many new computers and the infrastructure changes required to run efficiently.

By contrast Barack Obama moved into the White House, but instead of getting it up to speed from the start Obama proved what a fake his entire campaign had been. Further possession of his Blackberry became a matter of controversy and a minor victory when he was allowed to keep it but essentially not use it. Yesterday, the Obama incompetence and boobery came to the fore yet again, via WikiLeaks.

As we wrote yesterday, the latest WikiLeaks were not really secrets and in many instances should not have been categorized as secrets. Hillary Clinton in a presidential appearance appropriately lambasted the America haters at WikiLeaks but slyly noted the relative unimportance of what had thus far been revealed confirmed:

‘”She said Monday that she had talked to several foreign leaders over the course of the last several days, and has stressed to them that “official foreign policy is not set through these messages, but here in Washington.”

“Our policy is a matter of public record, as reflected in our statements and our actions around the world,” Clinton said in remarks at the State Department.

While some foreign government officials publicly criticized the U.S. for the leaks, Clinton said one of her foreign counterparts told her: “ ‘Don’t worry about it. You should see what we say about you.’

“So I think that this is well-understood in the diplomatic community as part of the give-and-take,” Clinton said. “And I would hope that we will be able to move beyond this and back to the business of working together on behalf of our common goals.”’

But however adroitly Hillary handled the WikiLeaks mess it cannot be denied that something is very very wrong. Today, Hillary Clinton took action:

“The U.S. State Department said on Tuesday it has severed its database of cables from one classified U.S. government network in the wake of a release of diplomatic documents by WikiLeaks but it declined to say which network.”

We’ll get back to Shirley Obama, but first a bit more on Hillary Clinton and WikiLeaks. DrudgeReport which cannot live without occasionally trashing Hillary Clinton. Matt Drudge was one of those who protected Barack Obama throughout the primary and general election campaigns and today he featured other Hillary Haters and idiots tried to drum up a Hillary angle to the WikiLeaks story – instead of staying focused on Barack Obama’s boobery and incompetence or worse. Drudge ended the day with yet another headline featuring Julian Assange’s call in Time magazine for Hillary Clinton to resign. Clearly Assange and Drudge have a lot in common.

JournoLister Marc Ambinder, now at National Journal which presumably will not tolerate Ambinder’s Obama love as much as his earlier employer, wrote a sufficiently accurate account of why the Hillary Haters are barking up the wrong tree when it comes to WikiLeaks. What is worth exploring is Hillary’s statement today in Central Asia:

“But two prominent women who came to hear her speak at a university laughed off the issue, saying that disclosures about high-living leaders were old hat in their country, and that these would hurt neither the standing of the United States nor its relationship with Kazakhstan.

“It’s very entertaining reading,” said one of them, Aigul Solovyeva, a member of Parliament who credits Mrs. Clinton with inspiring her to enter politics. The other female politician, Battalova Zauresh, went further, saying, “It’s a confirmation of American leadership in global political issues.”

Mrs. Clinton, however, did not dismiss the leaked material so lightly. Asked by a student about the WikiLeaks case, she repeated her condemnation of the release of the cables, saying it would threaten the lives of human rights activists, religious leaders, and antigovernment figures.

“This was a very irresponsible, thoughtless act that put at risk the lives of innocent people all over the world, without much regard for those who are most vulnerable, including journalists,” she said.[snip]

Still, Mrs. Clinton tried not to allow the leak to muddy her message of openness in this restrictive country. [snip]

In the Internet age, Mrs. Clinton said, it was difficult to balance freedom and responsibility. Some governments, she said, were overreacting by throwing bloggers in jail. At the same time, spreading information online can be harmful, she said, citing the recent case of a young man in New Jersey who committed suicide after a fellow student posted video of him in a gay sexual encounter.

We’ve got to support and protect freedom of expression, whether it’s from an individual or from a journalist,” she said. “But there also have to be some rules or some sense of responsibility that has to be inculcated.”

Which brings us back to Shirley Obama. Wasn’t he “the One” who understood all this technology? Wasn’t he the generational know-it-all who would integrate the modern needs of technology to let information flow yet at the same time keep “No Drama Obama” secrets? Does not seem like that anymore does it?

It’s not as if the WikiLeak from yesterday was the first one. There were two earlier mega-leaks from WikiLeaks featuring U.S. Government documents. Where was Shirley Obama? As Sarah Palin notedIt’s of course important that we do all we can to prevent similar massive document leaks in the future. But why did the White House not publish these orders after the first leak back in July? What explains this strange lack of urgency on their part?

Where has Barack Shirley Obama been for the past two years? Doesn’t he know about memory sticks, or smart phones with cameras, or all the other wonders and dangers of the hard-to-keep-a-secret networked technology world?

Where has Barack Shirley Obama been for the past two years? Didn’t he know that the mess called the “Homeland Security Department” with its directives to centralize information also made that centralized information easy to access for those with both legal and illegal, appropriate and inappropriate, intent? Perhaps it is time to get rid of the Homeland Security Department monstrosity with its 1930s name and its wide open databases. These databases are too often useless when you actually need them but are more than useful for those who have months to rummage through them before leaking them to WikiLeaks (not to mention foreign enemies).

Has anybody thought about that last sentence? Has anyone thought that maybe a lot of the information from these massive databases has been distributed to foreign governments or nomadic enemies or terrorist organizations and not to WikiLeaks and we don’t know it yet?

Has know-it-all Barack Shirley Obama dealth with the problem that in the modern age secrets stored in computers don’t necessarily remain secrets for long? Wasn’t Shirley supposed to be the expert on these issues? What has Shirley done? Nothing.

Next year WikiLeaks will target a major American bank and dump “tens of thousands of its internal documents”. It’s only the beginning:

“Admire Assange or revile him, he is the prophet of a coming age of involuntary transparency. Having exposed military misconduct on a grand scale, he is now gunning for corporate America. Does Assange have unpublished, damaging documents on pharmaceutical companies? Yes, he says. Finance? Yes, many more than the single bank scandal we’ve been discussing. Energy? Plenty, on everything from BP to an Albanian oil firm that he says attempted to sabotage its competitors’ wells. Like informational IEDs, these damaging revelations can be detonated at will.”

Corporations just now getting ready to block harvesting of documents found on networked computers are already too late.

“WikiLeaks “is high profile, legally ­insulated and transnational,” says former Commerce Department official James Lewis, who follows cybersecurity for the Center for Strategic & International Studies. “That adds up to a reputational risk that companies didn’t have to think about a year ago.”

Already U.S. laws wrapped into financial reform this year expand whistleblower incentives to offer six- and seven-digit rewards to staffers in any industry who report malfeasance. Wiki­Leaks adds another, new form of corporate data breach: It offers the conscience-stricken and vindictive alike a chance to publish documents largely unfiltered, without censors or personal repercussions, thanks to privacy and encryption technologies that make anonymity easier than ever before. Wiki­Leaks’ technical and ideological example has inspired copycats from Africa to China and rallied transparency advocates to push for a new, legal promised land in the unlikely haven of Iceland. It’s also fueling a race in the cyber­security industry and in Washington to find technology that can plug information leaks once for all.[snip]

In early October the site shut down its document-submission system; Assange says it was receiving more information than it could find resources to publish, thousands of additions a day at some points. The total is more gigabytes of data than he can count. “Our pipeline of leaks has been increasing exponentially as our profile rises,” he says, drawing a curve upward in the air with one hand.

If even a fraction of his claims are borne out, he’s already sitting on a crypt of data any three-letter spy agency would kill for.”

The private sector will turn its attention to the implications of WikiLeaks mega leaks soon enough. Heads will roll at technology departments and new rules will swiftly be implemented. But the problem is not going away.

The bottom line is that technology helps but also hurts. The idea that massive organizations can keep secrets on network computers open to thousands, if not millions, of users and keep those secrets is now proven false. The question now is what to do about this brave new world we have been in for at least a decade.

Don’t expect answers or action from Barack Obama.
Perhaps Leslie Nielsen knows what to do. But he ain’t talking.

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157 thoughts on “Call Him Shirley: Barack Obama, WikiLeaks, And Hillary Clinton

  1. Spot on, Admin!

    I have to admit though that I am shocked that the media could spare the time to report on this when they have been so worried and involved with bambi’s split lip incident and whether or not the potus job is to much for a mere joke like obama.

  2. In tomorrow’s news…

    Wednesday, 1 December 2010

    Bill Clinton: We need to save more lives – with less

    We risk losing our momentum, unless we find new ways to fill gaps left by reductions in Aids funding caused by the economic crisis

    On World Aids Day 10 years ago, as I was preparing to leave office, the world was only beginning to grasp the severity of the Aids crisis. Nearly 36 million men, women and children were living with the disease, but only about 200,000 were receiving the treatment they needed. Funding was nowhere near the levels needed to prevent the disease from reaching pandemic levels.

    Over the last decade, we have seen dramatic progress in both treatment and funding. In 2008 alone, $15bn was invested to fight Aids in developing countries, up from $6bn just three years earlier, due in large part to the US Government’s PEPFAR (President’s Emergency Plan for Aids Relief) programme.

    This summer, I witnessed one of the greatest examples of this progress when I attended the World Cup in South Africa, which has the largest number of people living with HIV/Aids in the world. For too long, the South African government did too little, but this year, it committed to testing tens of millions of South Africans and to more than double the numbers on treatment. I’m honoured that they have invited the Clinton Health Access Initiative to work alongside them to reach this goal.

    South Africa’s new actions reflect a sense of urgency and shared purpose in Africa, and in other parts of the world, that didn’t exist 10 years ago. Donor nations, the Global Fund to Fight Aids, TB and Malaria, and non-governmental organisations, including the Elton John Aids Foundation, the Gates Foundation, and many others, have provided indispensable contributions to raising consciousness, concern, and commitment to a level that will save millions of lives.

    In spite of these efforts, only one-third of people who need treatment are receiving it. We risk losing our momentum, unless we find new ways to fill the gaps left by reductions in government funding caused by the global economic crisis. And we need to save more lives with the money we do have.

    The most promising way to raise more funds is through very large numbers of small contributions which can be made in user-friendly ways. For example, France raises a lot of money every year from a service fee on airline tickets.

    The amounts raised provide much of the funding for the International Drug Purchase Facility (UNITAID,) which buys medicines to treat Aids and other diseases in poor countries. We are now trying to give airline passengers in other nations the opportunity to make small, voluntary contributions when they purchase tickets.

    In the meantime, we must do more with less. That means saving money on commodities and promoting better co-ordination of funding between donors and national governments. It means ensuring that low-cost/high-impact interventions are widely adopted, and asking donor nations to improve their own delivery systems so that a higher percentage of aid funds are spent in the beneficiary nations and on the problems they are intended to alleviate.

    My foundation has focused on lowering the cost of commodities since we began our work in 2002. Thanks to those efforts – along with the support of organisations like UNITAID, the Global Fund, PEPFAR, and the Gates Foundation – the cost of antiretroviral drug treatment (ARVs) has gone down to below $200 per person annually. The cost of CD4 tests, which allow doctors to assess how patients are responding to treatment, and other laboratory tests, has also dropped by over 50 per cent.

    But we need to break down remaining barriers – including trade agreements that prevent generic manufacturers from supplying effective ARVs for the developing world, and we need to do a better job on forecasting demand, to avoid overstocking, drug shortages, and expired inventory.

    We must co-ordinate funding flows better between donors and national governments to ensure that resources are aligned with the most pressing national priorities. We must also reduce duplication and under-investment.

    For example, the government of Rwanda has required that its implementing partners submit budget and expenditure data. From these reports, the government learned that some areas were receiving $15 per capita of external aid per year, whereas others only received $4. The Rwandan ministry of health used this data to form agreements with partners to ensure a more equitable and efficient allocation of resources. Other governments should follow Rwanda’s lead.

    We can maximise our return on investment by ensuring that low-cost/ high-impact interventions are adopted on a wider scale. For example, providing all HIV-positive people in sub-Saharan Africa with the antibiotic Co-trimoxazole – from the time that they are diagnosed – would dramatically lower mortality from common conditions such as pneumonia and diarrhoea at a cost of just $0.37 per patient, per year.

    This should be a basic standard of care. Another important intervention is the prevention of TB, which directly causes one in four deaths among HIV-positive patients. Treatments like Isoniazid prophylaxis can reduce TB infection amongst HIV patients by up to 64 per cent.

    Finally, all of us should continue to urge donor nations, as Bill Gates and I did before the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, to review their own budgets with a view to reducing overheads. If the cost of consultants from donor nations were cut, more aid could be spent on saving lives.

    These are just a few ways in which we can maximise the impact of our efforts in a period where funding isn’t keeping up with the increasing needs. We have to keep finding ways to do things better, faster, and at lower cost. For example, at our 2006 Clinton Global Initiative Meeting, Levi Strauss & Co committed to provide all of its employees and their families with access to HIV/Aids treatment, counselling, preventive care and education in more than 40 countries where the company operates.

    To date, the programme has enrolled more than 3,000 employees and managers. In 2010, their second voluntary counselling and testing campaign in South Africa has tested more than 75 per cent of their employees – one of the highest participation rates nationwide.

    This World Aids Day, in spite of the economic crisis and the increased competition for aid funds, we can continue saving more lives by giving more people a chance to help and doing more with the funds we already have.

    The writer was the 42nd President of the United States, and is founder of the William J. Clinton Foundation

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/bill-clinton-we-need-to-save-more-lives-ndash-with-less-2147827.html

  3. Interpol has issued an arrest warrant for Assange on rape charges. The timing is sure to raise eyebrows that this is politically motivated.

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/interpol-issues-global-arrest-warrant-for-julian-assange-20101201-18fw7.html?from=smh_sb

    Interpol, the international police organisation, has issued a global arrest warrant for WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange, as the activist website continued its US diplomatic cables leaks today.

    The 39-year-old Australian was added to the organisation’s “wanted” list for alleged sex crimes committed in Sweden this year.

    He is suspected of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion, after an investigation by Swedish prosecutors into his encounters with two women in Sweden in August.

    Mr Assange has denied the accusations, with his British lawyer Mark Stephens saying last month that they were “false and without basis”.

    Ecuador’s Deputy Foreign Minister Kintto Lucas yesterday offered Mr Assange asylum in his country saying that “we are ready to give him [Mr Assange] residence in Ecuador, with no problems and no conditions”.

    “We are going to invite him to come to Ecuador so he can freely present the information he possesses and all the documentation, not just over the internet but in a variety of public forums.”

  4. Admin, I am no supporter of Drudge but I took his headline (calling it Wikilecture) to mean that even he disapproves of Assange’s call for Hillary’s resignation.

    But your question is timely, what has the tech savvy Obama done to prevent these leaks and to deal with perpetrators who leak? His MO seems to be to downplay it but how long can that go on?

  5. Things are looking up for Obama:

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/narcissism-no-longer-a-psychiatric-disorder/?partner=rss&emc=rss

    Narcissistic personality disorder, characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance and the need for constant attention, has been eliminated from the upcoming manual of mental disorders, which psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness.

    As Charles Zanor reports in today’s Science Times, the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders — due out in 2013 and known as D.S.M.-5 — has eliminated five of the 10 personality disorders that are listed in the current edition. The best known of these is narcissistic personality disorder.

    It is a puzzle why the manual’s committee on personality disorders has decided to throw N.P.D. off the bus. Many experts in the field are not happy about it….One of the sharpest critics of the D.S.M. committee on personality disorders is a Harvard psychiatrist, Dr. John Gunderson, an old lion in the field of personality disorders and the person who led the personality disorders committee for the current manual.

    Asked what he thought about the elimination of narcissistic personality disorder, he said it showed how “unenlightened” the personality disorders committee is. “They have little appreciation for the damage they could be doing.” He said the diagnosis is important in terms of organizing and planning treatment.

  6. I am bringing the link back from AmericanGal’s comment:

    http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/what-hillary-clinton-didn-t-do-20101130

    Mark Ambinder’s article has good information on the spying thing (why it has Hillary’s name and what it means and does not mean).

    As to the allegation itself: Did Hillary Clinton order diplomats to spy?

    The easy answer is — no, she didn’t.

    But — wait. The cable was issued in her name. So isn’t she responsible?

    In 1990, Secretary of State James Baker found himself in a pickle when reports appeared in the press that the American envoy to Iraq, April Glaspie, had tried to appease Saddam Hussein on the eve of his decision to invade Kuwait. The truth was different: Glaspie’s own cable of the meeting noted that she had warned the Iraqi leader from invading its neighbor. But higher-ups at the State Department didn’t get the cable, or misplaced it, and it took the U.S. government a while to correct the record. Baker didn’t know enough to defend Glaspie; on television, he noted that 312,000 cables go out in his name each year. “What you want me to do is say that those instructions were sent specifically by me on my specific orders,” he said at the time. He wouldn’t play that game.

    In Clinton’s case, since the original order was sent to the State Department as an entity (just like it was sent to the Commerce Department as an entity), Clinton’s name appears as the originator of the State cable providing further instructions.

    The cable itself contains detailed requirements set by analysts at the CIA’s National HUMINT Requirements Tasking Center. The HUMINT tasking center is, well, tasked with figuring out what type of intelligence the U.S. government needs and how best to obtain it. In 2004, the CIA determined that, in order to provide value-added insight to policymakers enmeshed in complex negotiations about war and terrorism, it needed more raw data on foreign dignitaries, the United Nations, and various countries. The CIA’s decision to send out a tasking was itself derivative of a 2003 presidential national security directive issued by President Bush. The data would be used by many consumers: State’s own intelligence branch; the National Security Agency, which has representatives in the center; the CIA; and the Defense Intelligence Agency, which compile extensive databases of all sorts.

    In 2009, the CIA updated its requirements and reissued the directive, which went to all members of the intelligence community, joint intelligence centers of combatant commands, and even to selected cleared personnel representing the Departments of Agriculture and Commerce overseas, as the 8,500-word cable itself makes clear. There is some regret in the Obama administration that the 2009 instruction wasn’t more carefully and narrowly tailored, but that’s an issue for the intelligence community to sort out, not Clinton, who, in all likelihood, never saw it. (The State Department won’t comment on the specific contents of any WikiLeaks cable.)

    So once State got the order, Michael Owen, the acting State Department intelligence chief, dutifully distributed the instructions with a gloss as to what his shop could use to provide the intelligence community with better information.

  7. All that we seem to have in Obama is a black president who can deliver speeches written by other people. What we have in Hillary is a leader who goes runs in the direction of gunfire to save lives, as opposed to one like Obama who hides from it. It may be the case that the country is too far gone to appreciate the difference, and certainly the democratic party is clueless, but there are a few of us, and have been from the beginning who are stuck on the foolish notion that in this life action speak louder than words, and it should be a cardinal offense for a journalit–any fucking asshole who calls himself a journalist, to try to take down the one leader who is trying to solve the problem to save the hide of the one who is in hiding. But of course we must be politically correct and say regardless of the fact that he cannot pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the bottom side, we are truly blessed to have a black president–even if we do not have another one for two hundred years because he always be the counter example. But perhaps the American People are more forgiving than I am and will take a chance again about the time Haleys comet returns. Let us hope we have a Hispanic one next–Marco. There is no other way to restore confidence, unless Hillary runs.

  8. Every time there is a crisis where is Messiah Obama? Where is he? Hiding of course. And waiting for some young twerp speech writer to give him the words.

  9. I have a friend who is an elder in one of the great Native American Tribes, and has a remarkable gift for seeing into the future. In a primitive tribe she would be the wise woman.

    I read her the latest installment of the Ulsterman article, which confidently predicts that Obama will once again subvert democracy and prevail in 2012–with the aid of the nickel bag whores of big media.

    She is not as sure as they are that he will prevail. Not quite sure it will happen. In spite of his magnificence.

    What she says is that his election was nothing more than a FAD–like the hula hoop. And he does not get it, and neither do his people. They think it was him and him alone.

    She argues that he was the direct beneficiary of such factors as Bush fatigue, a sense that we have lost our way, a sense of powerlessness, and corruption all around us.

    She also claims that he was the beneficiary of the unresolved conflict in the American psyche over the death of Martin Luther King. He filled that gap, at least in the moment. But no longer.

    She said the country was in a confused and vulnerable state in 2008. She likened it to a psychological complex which lies hidden in the subconscious and suddenly burst forth, i.e. constellates and overwhelms the rational thought process.

    She has treated many people who are in this state. When they are in this state they lose their rational perspective. Sometimes they commit adultery, sometimes they commit violent crimes and sometimes they elect leaders like Hitler or Obama.

    As some point, they come out of it. The fever passes. They return to their old selves and they wonder what they have done. Rather than blame themselves, they rationalize. They say things like well I tried a black president and it did not work.

    But at that point they are also disillusioned. They can never suspend disbelief again in quite that manner. And when the fever passes little is left.

    And what of the co-conspirators who engineered his rise and her fall. She said Hillary won the election and they cheated her out of it. James Rooselvelt and the rest of the RGBC Committee know what they did was wrong. They simply do not want to remember it.

    I went to see my mother at the nursing home today. She told me that a number of the people who work there and voted for Obama feel very differently now. One of them told her when he was elected I cried in joy. Now that I see him for who he is I cry in anguish.

    There were two people on the nursing staff who were pro Hillary. One was white and one was black. I gave both of them Hillary buttons and paraphenalia. That was months ago.

    The rest were all for Obama. They believed their ship would come in when he was elected. They have since discovered that the ship that came in had somebody else’s name on it and that hurts.

    My friend told me that the most evil and manipulative thing about Obama is what he has done to the black people in this country. They will remain with him to the end, but he has destoyed their dreams and it will only get worse.

  10. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is supporting his 85-year-old mother in her apparent feud with former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, while also praising the former GOP vice presidential candidate for having “fantastic political instincts.”

    In an exclusive interview Monday, Bush told Newsmax.TV: “If it’s between my mom and Gov. Palin, I’ve got to go with my mom, just in general, because she’s my mother.”

    He added with a smile, “So you’re not going to get me in trouble with disagreeing with my beloved mother of 85 years, who occasionally from time to time says things that give us all great joy, and sometimes some consternation.”

    Story continues below.

    In a recent appearance on CNN, host Larry King asked former first lady Barbara Bush for her take on the outspoken Palin.

    “Well, I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful, and I think she’s very happy in Alaska,” Mrs. Bush replied. “And I hope she’ll stay there.”

    That prompted Palin in a radio interview with conservative host Laura Ingraham to retort: “I don’t want to sort of concede that we have to get used to this kind of thing because I think the majority of Americans don’t want to put up with the blue bloods — and I say it with all due respect because I love the Bushes — but the blue bloods who want to pick and choose their winners instead of allowing competition to pick and choose the winners.”

    While siding with his redoubtable mother, Jeb Bush went out of his way to compliment Palin’s political acumen, saying: ”She has an incredible skill to connect with people. She has fantastic political instincts, I think.”

    The younger brother of former President George W. Bush added that all candidates in the 2012 presidential field have strengths and weaknesses.
    Overcoming the liabilities, while emphasizing one’s strengths, will be the key, he said

  11. ROBBINS: Hillary Clinton’s State Department spooks

    Criticism of spying puts prissy purity over actual safety

    By Jim Robbins and James S. Robbins
    The Washington Times
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010

    “There is nothing laudable about endangering innocent people, and there is nothing brave about sabotaging peaceful relations between nations on which our common security depends,” Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said. As unaccustomed as I am to write this, commentators need to give Hillary Clinton a break. The secretary of state is under fire for ordering American diplomats to engage in detailed information collection against foreigners with whom they come into contact during the course of their duties. Among the documents released by WikiLeaks is the 8,300-word National Humint Collection Directive and similar orders that direct State Department employees to ferret out things like telephone numbers and directories (“in compact disc or electronic format if available”); e-mail addresses, Internet nicknames, personal websites, credit card and frequent-flier account numbers; health, biographic and even biometric information such a fingerprints, iris and facial-recognition factors; and signatures. In short, the government wanted to know anything that would be relevant to relations with the leaders of foreign countries, which, in practice, could be anything at all.

    The directives also asked for detailed assessments on a country-by-country basis on things like “vulnerabilities, capabilities, and planned upgrades to national telecommunications infrastructure and information systems, command and control systems, networks, and technologies used by government, military, and private sector.” Anything that might be useful to keep an eye on a country would be fair game. These reflect the needs outlined in the National Intelligence Priorities Framework issued by the director of national intelligence. Mrs. Clinton noted that State Department staff members overseas play a critical role in providing information used in intelligence community products.

    None of this should come as a surprise. The notion of a cordon sanitaire between diplomacy and intelligence is hopelessly outdated. The world is well past the point where it was when Herbert Hoover’s Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson said, “Gentlemen do not read each other’s mail.” By the time he had become Franklin D. Roosevelt’s secretary of war, Mr. Stimson had changed his tune, and theUnited Statesembarked on a comprehensive program of global intelligence collection. The stakes were too high during World War II for Queensbury rules, and since then, America has used all the tools at its disposal to gain advantage in international affairs. Today, the fact that every U.S. embassy around the world is host to a CIA station is well-known, and many in the intelligence community’s clandestine service consider the idea of “diplomatic cover” to be an oxymoron. The quickest way to come to the attention of foreign counterintelligence is to claim to be a diplomat.

    Reports on collection efforts targeting specific leaders have generated splashy headlines, but they are legitimate diplomatic efforts. Seeking information on Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner’s “nerves and anxiety” is not gossip writ large; dealing with leaders requires more finesse when they are emotionally unstable than it would otherwise. And implications that the State Department targeted British conservative politician Alan Duncan because he is homosexual overlook the fact that the Duncan analysis was part of a January rundown on the entire Tory leadership that assumed power five months later. Inquiries about his “relationship” to Conservative Party leader David Cameron is not an exercise in homophobia, fulminations of gay activists to the contrary notwithstanding. The fact that Moammar Gadhafi invited “bands from Mexico, Russia, New Zealand and a number of other nations” to play at the celebration of his 40th year in power might come in handy some day – who knows?

    Other countries have no scruples about collecting personal information at every opportunity. Official visitors to China understand that any information they have on wireless-enabled electronic devices will be dumped, copied and put into the intelligence stream at first opportunity. Foreign officials in Russia are watched closely by counterintelligence operatives acting within diplomatic parties. Collecting on the personal peccadilloes of influential people in target countries can take more active forms. The ring run by Russian spy Anna Chapman that was broken up last summer is a case in point. Any Americans who were keeping company with Miss Chapman – a list the FBI has not released – should be considered ineligible for government positions requiring security clearances because they have been compromised, one way or another.

    Those calling for Mrs. Clinton to resign for ordering “spying” are living in a fantasy world. Had the Obama administration ended this collection program, it would have been engaging in unilateral disarmament. If it makes the country safer for State Department employees to collect information on “indications of invasive species affecting food security or development” in Burkina Faso or former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark’s frequent-flier number, so be it.

    James S. Robbins is senior editorial writer for foreign affairs at The Washington Times and author of “This Time We Win: Revisiting the Tet Offensive” (Encounter Books, 2010).

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/nov/30/hillary-clintons-state-department-spooks/

  12. “Those calling for Mrs. Clinton to resign for ordering “spying” are living in a fantasy world”

    I think the author should have said “fairytale” instead.

  13. wbboei –

    The following article mentions your hero George Kennan.

    Why do diplomats send cables?

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/29/why_do_diplomats_still_send_cables

    The concept of secret diplomatic communications dates back to the birth of modern diplomacy during the European Renaissance, when ambassadors would send correspondence back to their home governments in sealed diplomatic pouches that could not, by law, be opened. The inviolability of diplomatic pouches is still enshrined in international law.

    The development of undersea telegraph cables in the late 19th century made for much faster communication. Yet because of the high cost of sending and encrypting sensitive telegrams, longer reports were still sent by diplomatic pouch, while telegrams were used for shorter messages. Deputy Moscow mission chief George Kennan’s 1946 description of “The Sources of Soviet Conduct” — probably the most famous cable in U.S. diplomatic history — became known as “The Long Telegram” because at over 5,000 words, it initially annoyed the penny pinchers at Foggy Bottom.

    Kennan’s long telegram is here.
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/documents/episode-1/kennan.htm

    Diplomatic writing at its best.

    When bad stuff like Yukkileak happens, jewels like the long telegram surface.

  14. Drudge has been a Clinton hater since day one…imo he is a huge Obama supporter who has attempted to divert attention from our incompentent POTUS on many occassions using the Clintons as “red herrings”.

  15. admin
    November 30th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    admin, did you read what the lunatic radical lefty Slate editors had to say about Hillary? Pretty disgusting. Of course these are the same loonies who backed Waffles and live in their fairytale.

  16. JanH
    November 30th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    ROBBINS: Hillary Clinton’s State Department spooks
    ________________

    Great article,JanH

  17. Tell me why is it alway HRC who must quit the Campaign (even though she is winning), and HRC who must quit the State Deparment when the jerk off screws up time and time again, and all the bots have to say is we have not given him enough time. HRC gets no time at all.

    Back Off you idiots, as you obviously don’t know a leader when you see one.

  18. Great post Admin, high fives. *****

    Anyone just hear the gecko Newt just praising Hillary for protecting American’s, and doing a good job? And saying the spam Boy dumpGate calling for Hillary to step down should be in jail and have the book thrown at him.

    The day I talk about Newt and his having something substantially good to say about Hillary,

    …let me check………………
    …………..yup, Hell just froze over.

  19. confloyd was asking about Bill Clinton earlier…

    Bill Clinton expects leak of files to cost lives

    By MIKE BAKER
    The Associated Press
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010; 10:08 PM

    GREENSBORO, N.C. — Former President Bill Clinton said Tuesday he expects people to lose their lives over this week’s massive leak of diplomatic documents but doesn’t believe the founder of the website that is posting the files has succeeded in evading U.S. authorities.

    “I’ll be very surprised if some people don’t lose their lives,” Clinton said in a speech in North Carolina. “And goodness knows how many will lose their careers.”

    Clinton’s wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has argued that the website WikiLeaks acted illegally in posting the sensitive files. Bill Clinton said after the event that it’s clear that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is trying to evade the reach of American law because he knows what he did was criminal.

    “That doesn’t mean that he did succeed in evading the reach of American law,” Clinton said.

    Interpol has put Assange on its most-wanted list after Sweden issued an arrest warrant against him as part of a drawn-out rape probe involving allegations Assange has denied.

    Clinton’s wide-ranging speech was part of a lecture series hosted by Guilford College in Greensboro. He pushed Democratic leaders to quickly clarify the financial landscape that businesses will be facing in the future so that companies currently sitting on piles of cash will be willing to spend.

    “We just need to get in and clean that up,” Clinton said. “I’d figure out what it would take for them to start lending again. If it wasn’t illegal or immoral, I’d do it.”

    He didn’t delve into specifics but said at one point in the speech that the health care law pushed by President Barack Obama should be changed but not repealed. He later said that some companies appear concerned about the recently passed Wall Street reform bill and by health care costs – two issues that were at the center of the Democratic Congress over the last two years.

    “We haven’t done what is necessary to clear up their uncertainties,” Clinton said. “That’s something that the Democratic administration needs to do.”

    Clinton is the first U.S. president to take part in Guilford College’s Bryan Series. Other former heads of state who have participated in the talks include Mikhail Gorbachev of the Soviet Union in 2004 and Mary Robinson of Ireland in 2006.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/30/AR2010113007299.html

  20. Drudge doesn’t like Hillary, well, maybe sometimes he does when he puts a nice photo up of her………but, news flash……….
    Drudge is a CONSERVATIVE.

    I often judge the temperament of a site by the photos they pick of a candidate. If they show someone with a bad hair day, they don’t like them. If Barry is dressed as a clown, town fool or as a boob…… well, you know the drill. 😆

  21. A little long but interesting…

    ————–

    wikiLeaks’ Postings to Have `Modest’ Impact on Foreign Policy, Gates Says

    By Viola Gienger and Flavia Krause-Jackson – Nov 30, 2010

    U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said descriptions of the potential harm from secret diplomatic cables posted online by WikiLeaks.org are “significantly overwrought” and the disclosures will have a “fairly modest” impact on foreign policy.

    “The fact is governments deal with the United States because it’s in their interest — not because they like us, not because they trust us, and not because they believe we can keep secrets,” Gates said at a Pentagon news conference today. “Is this embarrassing? Yes. Is it awkward? Yes. Consequences for U.S. foreign policy? I think fairly modest.”

    As WikiLeaks makes the cables public, the State Department has limited access to classified information through a network that connects its database with the Pentagon, according to spokesman Philip J. Crowley.

    “We have made some adjustments, and that has narrowed for the time being those who have access to State Department cables across the government,” Crowley told reporters today. “We want to make sure that our documents are adequately protected and that we have the ability to detect if anything like this occurs in the future.”

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her deputies have spent the past week doing damage control with their foreign counterparts, starting prior to WikiLeaks’ initial Nov. 28 posting on its website of leaked cables from U.S. embassies. WikiLeaks has said that it has more than 250,000 cables, which feature commentary on foreign leaders and confidential conversations with allies, and their publication threatens to complicate U.S. efforts to shape international relations.

    ‘It Will Pass’

    Ambassadors of Arab nations, some of whose leaders were reported to have made remarks critical of Iran, downplayed the potential long-term impact of the leaks.

    “It is something that is unusual, and embarrassing somehow, but it will pass,” Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations, said in an interview.

    Egyptian Ambassador Maged Abdelaziz said comments reported from leaked cables aren’t actually very secret, dismissing them as “information that you have heard here or there.” Abdelaziz said diplomats “don’t know where this is coming from, or how credible this information is.”

    The Pentagon and the State Department have taken steps to tighten control over information since WikiLeaks began posting field reports from the war in Afghanistan in July and released another batch from Iraq in October.

    Behind-the-Scenes Talks

    While those reports mainly added detail to scenarios already made public for both conflicts, the latest release of U.S. embassy cables revealed higher-level, behind-the-scenes discussions and assessments.

    The State Department put restrictions on the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network, which connects the State and Defense departments.

    U.S. Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning was arrested in June on suspicion of illegally releasing classified information. He had said in an online chat that he downloaded State Department cables from embassies and consulates around the world, the New York Times reported.

    “One of the issues that this incident has brought to light is the real question as to who, and how many, have a need to have this kind of access to a database that has a broad array of State Department documents?” Crowley said.

    Clinton condemned the leak of the embassy cables yesterday before departing on a trip that will include a security conference in Bahrain with top leaders and diplomats of Arab countries often cited in some of the cables.

    ‘Great Concern’

    “Obviously this is a matter of great concern, because we don’t want anyone in any of the countries that could be affected by these alleged leaks to have any doubts about our intentions,” Clinton told reporters.

    She said that her discussions with counterparts had been “productive” and that most diplomats worldwide understand the need for candid internal discussions.

    “I am confident that the partnerships that the Obama administration has worked so hard to build will withstand this challenge,” Clinton said.

    Practical interests will trump concerns over the leaks, Gates said today.

    “Every other government in the world knows the United States government leaks like a sieve,” Gates said. “Some governments deal with us because they fear us, some because they respect us, most because they need us.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-30/wikileaks-impact-likely-modest-on-u-s-diplomacy-gates-says.html

  22. admin:

    “These databases are too often useless when you actually need them but are more than useful for those who have months to rummage through them before leaking them to WikiLeaks (not to mention foreign enemies).
    Has anybody thought about that last sentence?

    Has anyone thought that maybe a lot of the information from these massive databases has been distributed to foreign governments or nomadic enemies or terrorist organizations and not to WikiLeaks and we don’t know it yet?”
    _______________________________

    Now that I think about it- you would have to assume the worst- so the answer has to be… yes!

    And if we are talking about enemies… Hillary’s enemies, as well- If there are more leaks to come out intended to undermine Hillary’s credibility.

  23. US officials insist Clinton not ordering diplomats to spy

    By Pam Benson and Jill Dougherty, CNN
    November 30, 2010

    Washington (CNN) — U.S. officials came to the defense of the secretary of state Tuesday, insisting that Hillary Clinton did not order State Department staff to spy on United Nations diplomats, as suggested by a diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks.

    The defense came as WikiLeaks found Julian Assange told Time magazine, a sister publication of CNN, that the she should quit.

    “She should resign, if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up,” Assange said.

    U.S. officials insisted Tuesday that American diplomats are not being transformed into intelligence officers or doing anything out of the ordinary, and State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley pointedly responded to Assange’s statement.

    “This is ridiculous and ill-informed,” Crowley said. “The leak of these documents is something we have strongly condemned, but what these documents demonstrate is the tremendous work being done by diplomats around the world, led by Secretary Clinton.”

    The leaked papers include an purported order from “SECSTATE WASHDC” signed “CLINTON” to American diplomats to engage in intelligence gathering.

    In the July 2009 document, Clinton directs her envoys at the United Nations and embassies around the world to collect information ranging from basic biographical data on foreign diplomats to their frequent flyer and credit card numbers and even “biometric information on ranking North Korean diplomats.” Typical biometric information can include fingerprints, signatures and iris recognition data.

    The State Department said its officers are not spies.

    “Diplomats are diplomats. And their job is to interact with people, gather information, gain perspective on events around the world and report those findings in a way that helps inform our policies and form out actions. They are not intelligence assets,” spokesman Crowley told reporters Tuesday.

    Crowley called the directive a “wish list” from “outside” agencies that did not require diplomats to do anything.

    “Nothing in any document that allegedly is in the tranche or WikiLeaks or in possession of WikiLeaks changed the role of any diplomat, anywhere in the world,” Crowley said at his daily briefing.

    A U.S. official familiar with diplomatic reporting said, “This kind of cable is routine and is not unique to the United Nations. It’s a list of priorities that are of interest to the American government,” said the official.

    A senior administration official said the intelligence community does communicate to the State Department and other agencies what it is interested in finding out about foreign officials.

    “The intelligence community managers communicate to us what they are interested in,” this official said. “That message did not change or require diplomats to do anything.”

    When asked whether U.S. diplomats are carrying out those directives, this official said “it’s one thing for someone to say ‘Hey, if you come across this kind of thing we’d be interested.’ It’s another thing to say ‘Go out and do it.'”

    The official added, “I’m not even sure how many people even saw that message. Diplomats are free to ignore that kind of message, and I’m told virtually all of them do.”

    A former senior intelligence official who was not directly familiar with the Clinton cables agreed such a request is basically a wish list which most diplomats don’t carry out.

    When the intelligence community is pursuing information needed by the policymakers, it decides on what has to be collected and how best to do it.

    “It’s a detailed matrix of what is needed to go forward,” said the former official. That could include obtaining phone numbers, providing talking points to diplomats and seeking other information.

    In a case like this, an office such as Intelligence and Research at the State Department would put together a message which would be sent under the secretary’s name, asking diplomats to pursue certain information “if they have an opportunity to do so, if they get access to a particular foreign official,” said the official who quickly added, “diplomats don’t usually do it.”

    The former intelligence official noted that diplomatic reporting is considered the baseline for the intelligence community.

    “Diplomatic reporting has an intelligence dimension. The process starts with what the diplomats tell us and we move from there,” said the official, “but the down in the weeds, clandestine work is done by intelligence collection officers.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/30/wikileaks.clinton/

  24. Admin, a lot of conservatives/repubs, Hillary-haters are coming to Hillary’s defense, even Drudge with his use of the word ‘Wikilecture’ in his big headline, ;).

  25. “She should resign, if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up,” Assange said.”
    ______________________________

    Uh, now this yahoo is a sidewalk lawyer leveling charges specific to the standard operating procedure of foreign diplomats.

    The UN is Soros’ home base beside the Scandanavian countries standing at the ready issuing a Nobel Prize to anyone Soros’ designates on his to do list…

  26. From the HotAir comments. I’ll take it.=)

    “The only thing I can’t stand worse than Hillary is when some foreign enemy collaborator bashes her. She’s OUR problem, you shut the phuq up about her.

    Tony737 on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM”

  27. Still nothing about the fraud during all of this “meganothingleaks”. All Hillary, all day. So obvious.

    I think Soro’s is just the front man for this time in history. The corporate commissions have run the world for too many years to count. We can dig up all we can on him, but if and when he dies or goes down, there will just be another front man to take his place. Rather daunting and depressing at the same time.

  28. JanH
    ……….U.S. officials insisted Tuesday that American diplomats are not being transformed into intelligence officers or doing anything out of the ordinary, and State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley pointedly responded to Assange’s statement.

    ————
    Hillary has the magical authority to turn untrained diplomats into covert CIA agents by the mere act of an email. And with that swish of her wand, these people can gather finger prints and personal information that would put James Bond to shame.

    This sounds like more drummed up bullshit from the Cheeto Kooks.

    I just can’t buy into it.

  29. “I think Soro’s is just the front man for this time in history. The corporate commissions have run the world for too many years to count. We can dig up all we can on him, but if and when he dies or goes down, there will just be another front man to take his place. Rather daunting and depressing at the same time.”
    ______________________

    Confloyd, wbb and I have been following this pox on humanity for the last year. Here are his most recent achievements-

    1.) He has put in place Secretaries of State, personally chosen by him, in 6 of the battleground states.

    2.) His next order of business is getting to the judges who would rule on voter irregularities and voter fraud in those states to be agreeable to his wishes.

    3.) He owns the Diebold voting machines and the Chief programmer who handles the vote counting software. He purchased them after the 08′ election.

    Soros’ organization, “The Center for American Progress”, is the architect of the 30 Executive Orders Obama is to put into law.

    Obama is ready to sign one of the EO’s passed today: S. 510 the “Food Modernization Safety Act”. (you can see the directive in the pdf)

    The 30 EO’s are documented here:

    Read the pdf when you have a chance. The reach of this man bent on crushing our democracy is stunning, using his appointed tool, Obama, to execute these orders.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

  30. Meanwhile, Interpol placed Julian Assange on its most-wanted list after Sweden issued an arrest warrant against him as part of a drawn-out rape probe — involving allegations Assange has denied. The Interpol alert is likely to make international travel more difficult for Assange, whose whereabouts are publicly unknown.

    ————
    I don’t know how a broken rubber can somehow be interchanged with the concept of rape, but if rape fits, then it would possibly make sense that he is after our powerful woman, Hillary. So many men hate her for all her ability that makes weak men feel impotent.

  31. “She should resign, if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up,” Assange said.
    —————————–
    This demand she resign must be viewed as a back handed compliment. After all, consider the source, i.e. a Soros agent hell bent on destroying the United States. And then consider who is echoing and re-echoing it, i.e. the jurnolistic traitors who will tell any lie to protect Obama. When these kind of miscreants demand you resign it can only mean you are doing something right. And then her splendid courage in facing the problem head on while messiah obama looks for a broom closet to hide in until the crisis passes. Shades of how he acted in the Somali pirate crisis, the Iran crisis, the Afghan crisis, the Gulf crisis and now this: Where the great one the messiah is concerned Gertrude Stein got it right: Obama is like Oakland in the sense that there is no there there. But what a wonderful opportunity he has given big media to rule the country.

  32. shadowfax,
    So many men hate her for all her ability that makes weak men feel impotent.
    ——————————–

    Good grief you nailed it….she makes them feel impotent. I never could figure out how to word it, but that’s perfect.

    That freaking Glenn Beck throwing gasoline on the fire….people are just freaking ignorant.

    Norma Desmond….now I know why you did not want me reading Drudge anymore…it was pretty shocking to see that headline.

  33. Shadow-

    Few people I know or even exist that can’t be bought. The Clintons are 2 people who are in public service because they believe that is their calling as their life’s work. Their reasoning is- they have a vision for creating a better world. A world of Peace and Prosperity for all not just the rich. Bill Clinton proved he could make it work in 8 short years from 92′ to 2000. Cripes,I can hardly remember what it was like not to have to worry everyday.

    This fellow Assange, most likely had a vision at one time of exposing secrets in the name of transparency. Somewhere along the way, he came in contact with George Soros- Soros made him a proposition, kept upping the ante until Assange said, yes. Assange went over to the dark side for a price.

    The mistake Assange has made is the wikileaks can go on without him. He will be Soros’ sacrificial lamb to satisfy those hunting him down. By now, Assange has to be thinking about the millions deposited in his bank account… thinking what good is it now? Where can he go in the world with a 6 figure price tag on his head for his capture? Assange is a dead man walking!

  34. Time magazine, a sister publication of CNN
    —————————————-
    I believe Soros has an interest in this enterprise, as he does in ABC. They have been out to destroy Hillary since the days of the primary. There is a sweet sickening rot in the AOL-Time Warner-CNN organization that stinks to high heaven and permeates everything they do. Everything.

  35. Mrs. Smith
    December 1st, 2010 at 1:34 am
    ************

    I know this Mrs Smith, but I do believe he is a front man.

  36. “I know this Mrs Smith, but I do believe he is a front man.”
    _______________________

    Soros is an agent for the mega rich but he is still the mastermind trying to destroy America and our way of life. Our Freedom and Democracy.

  37. From ACE, The Euro may not survive
    ****************

    Euro-contagion spreads [Fritzworth]
    —Open Blogger

    It’s 2:40 am Wednesday morning here in Paris, and I’m wide awake — not because of jet lag, but because I came down ill with a 24-hr bug on Monday night and slept most of Tuesday. The good news is that I’ll get more euros when I withdraw cash from the friendly neighborhood ATM in the morning:

    Investors dismissed European leaders’ latest attempt to restore market calm, raising doubts about whether governments can rebuild confidence in the region’s common currency amid signs that the debt crisis is creeping deeper into the Continent.
    The euro fell to a 10-week low, and was below $1.30 in late New York trading. Bond markets across Europe’s vulnerable fringe sank, as the “risk premium” investors demand for lending to Spain and Italy hit record highs. Standard & Poor’s said after European markets closed it is considering a downgrade on Portugal’s credit rating, citing economic pressures and increased risks to the government’s creditworthiness.
    The eurozone was, for the most part, a collectivist pipe dream fueled by grand intentions — the classic liberal fallacy of “if we just mean well, it will all work out.” Megan McArdle, a libertarian economist, suspects the euro, as a currency, may not survive. More disturbingly, McArdle — no alarmist or ideologue — has real concerns about what lies ahead for all of us:

    Europe cannot let its banks fail, but it also can’t divert public pensions to line the pockets of bankers. Yet it may well have to do one or the other. I am also expecting finance to win. Forget whether Germany has the political will to bail out the PIIGS: does either the EU, or the ECB, actually have the means to bail out all five? If Spain topples, that is what it will come to.

    This is starting to throw off more echoes of the Great Depression, where you have a sequence of crises, each touched off by the ones that came before, like dominos falling into some diabolic design. Europe and America thought they’d seen the worst of things by the end of 1930, only to be knocked back down even harder by the contagion of the Creditanstalt crisis. In the US, the crisis ultimately triggered a string of bank failures worse than those sparked by the initial stock market crash, and the worst two years of the Great Depression were 1932-3.
    Hey, if I can’t sleep, there’s no reason why you should get to. ..fritz..

  38. “There is a sweet sickening rot in the AOL-Time Warner-CNN”
    _________________________

    I read a while back, Ted Turner regretted selling CNN. He tried buying it back but was refused.

  39. Mrs. Smith
    December 1st, 2010 at 2:18 am

    He is a front man, when he falls another will be in his place. The noose just gets tighter and tighter it seems. Too many sheep and not enough sheep dogs.

  40. gonzotx
    December 1st, 2010 at 2:25 am

    gonzotx- you can call him whatever you want. WBB, confloyd and I did the research on Soros for a good 6 weeks. WBB assembled the compiled facts and did a brilliant job of writing a 12 chapter series narrating a biographic profile of Mr. Soros. I got it posted and archived here for future reference.

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/blockbuster-obama%e2%80%99s-godfather/

    We made the connection of exactly who Soros is- what he’s about- and where he is going- who he services… the mega wealthy. WE labeled him an agent because that is what he does. Obama is HIS frontman.

  41. gonzotx
    December 1st, 2010 at 2:25 am

    gonzotx- you can call him whatever you want. WBB, confloyd and I did the research on Soros for a good 6 weeks. WBB assembled the compiled facts and did a brilliant job of writing a 12 chapter series narrating a biographic profile of Mr. Soros. I got it posted and archived here for future reference.

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/blockbuster-obama%e2%80%99s-godfather/

    We made the connection of exactly who Soros is- what he’s about- and where he is going- who he services… the mega wealthy. WE labeled him an agent because that is what he does. Obama is HIS frontman.

  42. This fucking Glenn Beck is driving me crazy tonight…talking about another huge depression and it has already started!

  43. This fucking Glenn Beck is driving me crazy tonight…talking about another huge depression and it has already started!

  44. This fucking Glenn Beck is driving me crazy tonight…talking about another huge depression and it has already started!

  45. gonzotx:

    Here is the prologue to George Soros written by wbb… who is a brilliant attorney:

    “This is the first of twelve (12) short chapters. It will present my core argument which is that George Soros is Obama’s godfather, and Mr. Obama is an instrument for Soros’ designs. I will prove to you in the chapters which follow that Soros is not the humanistic philanthropist he pretends to be but a ruthless player on the world stage with the financial and political leverage to reshape the world in ways which are uncongenial to the American People. Furthermore, I will prove to you that he more than anyone else put Mr. Obama in the White House. Finally, I will prove to you that Obama is advancing the Soros Agenda to the great detriment of our country. Since this is hardly in keeping with the politically correct discourse of the Georgetown social set it is subject to dismissal as conspiracy theory unless it can be proven. History is replete with conspiracies, therefore the pertinent question is whether the proposition I am advancing is supported by the evidence. The burden of proof is mine, I gladly accept it, so without further ado let us proceed.”

  46. http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/what-hillary-clinton-didn-t-do-20101130

    Mark Ambinder’s article has good information on the spying thing (why it has Hillary’s name and what it means and does not mean).

    In 2009, the CIA updated its requirements and reissued the directive, which went to all members of the intelligence community, joint intelligence centers of combatant commands, and even to selected cleared personnel representing the Departments of Agriculture and Commerce overseas, as the 8,500-word cable itself makes clear. [ Clinton herself probably never saw it. ]

    So once State got the order, Michael Owen, the acting State Department intelligence chief, dutifully distributed the instructions with a gloss as to what his shop could use to provide the intelligence community with better information.

    ===================

    So it wasn’t even Hillary who was just forwarding orders. 😉

    Wonder if her crtics believe every form latter they get with the Governor’s name on it was really written by the Governor? This is just something that’s in all the official stationery or sig.

  47. Well this whole thing sucks…..I am so glad that Hillary is made of Kryptonite! I wish I was, I been worried all day. Where the hell is she anyway and how long will she be gone…I hope she stays safe. These crooks want her out….that we know for sure after today!

  48. wbboei,
    What I meant to say was that I saw that article from Gingrich….he is a smart guy! I think he has some common sense.

  49. One unintended consequence of this leak is that it actually makes Hillary look way tougher on foreign affairs than Obama and actually enhances her in that position as tough on American security.

    She’s beating Bambi out of the park, Americans are now seeing how solidly tough she is.

  50. Viera interviewing Gibbs this morning on Today:

    Did Hillary Clinton issue the spying directive to US diplomats? (Gibbs skirts the y/n question) Says, our diplomats do their very best for the country and Sect Clinton has done a good job in the interests of the country- (all praphrased)

    Call me crazy, when Gibbs had the chance to protect the State Dept, he followed Obama’s orders. (provide NO cover for Secretary Clinton)

  51. Well now it’s official-

    This morning, Gibbs drew a line in the sand.

    Hillary, the loyal patriot vs Obama, cheater in chief

  52. tim: a temporary reprive- I have to think the Constitution is female. She bites.. 🙂
    __________________________

    House May Block Food Safety Bill Over Senate Error

    Nov. 30, 2010

    A food safety bill that has burned up precious days of the Senate’s lame-duck session appears headed back to the chamber because Democrats violated a constitutional provision requiring that tax provisions originate in the House.

    By pre-empting the House’s tax-writing authority, Senate Democrats appear to have touched off a power struggle with members of their own party in the House. The Senate passed the bill Tuesday, sending it to the House, but House Democrats are expected to use a procedure known as “blue slipping” to block the bill, according to House and Senate GOP aides.

    The debacle could prove to be a major embarrassment for Senate Democrats, who sought Tuesday to make the relatively unknown bill a major political issue by sending out numerous news releases trumpeting its passage.

    Section 107 of the bill includes a set of fees that are classified as revenue raisers, which are technically taxes under the Constitution. According to a House GOP leadership aide, that section has ruffled the feathers of Ways and Means Committee Democrats, who are expected to use the blue slip process to block completion of the bill.

    more at link:

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/-201012-1.html

  53. The President speaks… No, not that one.
    The real one, President Bill Clinton-
    ________________________________

    Bill Clinton expects leak of files to cost lives

    GREENSBORO, N.C. — Former President Bill Clinton said Tuesday he expects people to lose their lives over this week’s massive leak of diplomatic documents but doesn’t believe the founder of the website that is posting the files has succeeded in evading U.S. authorities.

    “I’ll be very surprised if some people don’t lose their lives,” Clinton said in a speech in North Carolina. “And goodness knows how many will lose their careers.”

    Clinton’s wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has argued that the website WikiLeaks acted illegally in posting the sensitive files. Bill Clinton said after the event that it’s clear that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is trying to evade the reach of American law because he knows what he did was criminal.

    “That doesn’t mean that he did succeed in evading the reach of American law,” Clinton said.

    Interpol has put Assange on its most-wanted list after Sweden issued an arrest warrant against him as part of a drawn-out rape probe involving allegations Assange has denied.

    Clinton’s wide-ranging speech was part of a lecture series hosted by Guilford College in Greensboro. He pushed Democratic leaders to quickly clarify the financial landscape that businesses will be facing in the future so that companies currently sitting on piles of cash will be willing to spend.

    “We just need to get in and clean that up,” Clinton said. “I’d figure out what it would take for them to start lending again. If it wasn’t illegal or immoral, I’d do it.”

    He didn’t delve into specifics but said at one point in the speech that the health care law pushed by President Barack Obama should be changed but not repealed. He later said that some companies appear concerned about the recently passed Wall Street reform bill and by health care costs – two issues that were at the center of the Democratic Congress over the last two years.

    “We haven’t done what is necessary to clear up their uncertainties,” Clinton said. “That’s something that the Democratic administration needs to do.”

    Clinton is the first U.S. president to take part in Guilford College’s Bryan Series. Other former heads of state who have participated in the talks include Mikhail Gorbachev of the Soviet Union in 2004 and Mary Robinson of Ireland in 2006.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/30/AR2010113007299.html

  54. Revisionist history. I listened to the live interview @ 7am.. and never heard these words uttered by Gibbs mentioned in this article.

    Gibbs did such a good job of dancing around Viera’s question, he definately should be a candidate for DWTS!
    ___________________

    Gibbs supposed statement:

    “Dec. 1, 2010 that Assange’s statements “are both ridiculous and absurd.” Clinton, he said, has done nothing wrong, and U.S. diplomats do not engage in spying. He spoke in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show.
    ____________

    Sweet Jesus, read the rest of the article at the link\
    Don’t forget to bring your high wadders!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120101628.html

  55. Guess who said the following: “It is incredible that a system of taxation which permits a man with an income of $1,000,000 a year to pay not one cent to his Government should remain unaltered.”

    Franklin D. Roosevelt? Ted Kennedy? Nancy Pelosi?

    Not even close. It was Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury under conservative Republican President Calvin Coolidge.

    What was Mellon’s point? That high tax rates do not necessarily result in high tax revenues to the government. “It is time to face the facts,” he said. Merely having high tax rates on large incomes will not bring in more tax revenues to the treasury, because of “the flight of capital away from taxable investments.”

    This was all said in 1924, in Mellon’s book, “Taxation: The People’s Business.” Yet here we are, more than 80 years later, still not facing those facts.

    It is not just a question of what Andrew Mellon said. It is a question of hard facts, easily checked in official documents available to all– and ignored all these years.

    Internal Revenue Service data show that there were 206 people who reported annual incomes of one million dollars or more in 1916. But, as the tax rate on high incomes skyrocketed under the Woodrow Wilson administration, that number plummeted to just 21 people reporting a million dollars a year in income five years later.

    What happened to all those millionaires? Did they flee the country? Were they stricken with fatal diseases? Did they meet with foul play?

    Not to worry. Right after Congress enacted the cuts in tax rates that Mellon had been urging, there were suddenly 207 people reporting taxable incomes of a million dollars or more in 1925. As Casey Stengel used to say, “You could look it up.” It is on page 21 of an Internal Revenue publication titled “Statistics of Income from Returns of Net Income for 1925.”

    Where had all the income of those millionaires been hiding? In tax-exempt securities like state and local bonds, among other places. Mellon had urged Congress to end tax exemptions for such securities, even before he got them to cut tax rates. But he succeeded only with the latter, and only after a political struggle with those who made the same kinds of arguments that are still being made today by those who cry out against “tax cuts for the rich.”

    Still, one out of two is not bad, when it comes to getting Congress to do something that makes sense economically, rather than something that looks good politically.

  56. Comprehensive summary from the Spectator:
    ___________________________

    Obama to Voters: Drop Dead

    The good news is that the Democrats and the Washington Establishment have heard the message from the American people on Election Day, 2010. How could they have not? It was an epoch beginning, 1932 style rout, as predicted here first 18 months ago.

    The bad news is how much trouble our country is still in. For after all of President Obama’s double talking sweet talk right after the vote, the harsh reality, inconsistent with our very democracy, is that the Democrats and the Washington Establishment are rejecting the message the people sent. Their response is the political equivalent of “Shut Up.”

    How else can we interpret the decision of House Democrats to defy the American people, and reelect ultra-left San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi as Minority Leader? House Democrat candidates will now campaign in 2012 on the theme, “Vote for Us, and Bring Back Pelosi!” I think they have now answered the question, “How stupid do they think we are?”

    And how else can we interpret President Obama, who said at his press conference the day after the electoral rout, “Over the last two years we have made progress. But clearly the American people have not felt that yet. And they told us that yesterday.” Just what exactly is he saying here? The words say the American people told us on Election Day that the Democrats are not moving to implement their left-wing agenda fast enough. President Obama is now acting as if this is the message he got on Election Day, as we will see below.

    And how else can we interpret Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), who said in a Senate hearing just before Thanksgiving, “I hunger for quality news. There’s a little bug inside of me which wants to get the FCC to say to Fox and to MSNBC: ‘Out! Off! End! Goodbye!” Funny he should say that. Because there’s a little bug inside of me that wants to get the FEC to say to Rockefeller: “Out! Off! End! Goodbye!”

    This is your modern Democrat party, run by New Left hippies from the ’60s in suits, who don’t even believe in the First Amendment, because they are really just Hugo Chavez in waiting.

    Obama to Rule by Decree

    President Obama is already taking another step in that direction. For now that the American people have terminated his ability to ram his socialism through a thoroughly Left-Wing Congress, he has decided to rule by decree.

    President Obama indicated as much again in his November 3 press conference. Regarding the cap and trade carbon tax bill, Obama said, “Cap and trade was just one way of skinning the cat. It was a means to an end. I’m going to be looking for other means to address this problem.”

    (he really means to say, skinning the people!)

    Obama’s EPA has now begun the process for regulating carbon dioxide emissions (CO2) under the Clean Air Act. Note that CO2 is not a pollutant, but a natural substance in the environment essential to all human life on the planet. Without CO2, plants would die off, and without plants there would not be oxygen or food for humans and other animals.

    This CO2 regulation will be even more burdensome to the economy than cap and trade. Both the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg News reported last week that major energy, manufacturing, and construction projects will be shut down in an indefinite moratorium as a result. The Journal reports that the regulation will force “mass retirements of the coal plants that provide half of America’s electricity.” As a result, electricity costs will “necessarily skyrocket” as candidate Obama let out in the 2008 campaign, when he thought he was speaking only to an environmentalist extremist audience that would applaud that.

    But there can be no applauding the impact of those higher electricity costs on manufacturing, and the jobs of blue collar workers. The regulations would take time to fully phase in and produce their full economic effects. But the resulting job losses are estimated to be 7 million or more nationwide, which would be a 50% increase in today’s persistent, high level of unemployment. That would involve an estimated trillion dollars a year in additional costs to the economy.

    There is no scientific justification for this economic suicide for America’s economy, which is why even the current overwhelmingly Democrat Congress refused to pass cap and trade. But this doesn’t even take into account the full economic effect of the recession that would inevitably result. Indeed, achieving the CO2 targets would essentially repeal the industrial revolution, which would involve a lot more lost jobs than 7 million. If you don’t think anyone would ever attempt that, then you don’t understand the extremist threat facing our country.

    The effect would be particularly harsh in areas where the industries produce higher than average CO2 levels, such as Republican Texas and Louisiana with their vibrant oil and natural gas industries. Again, those higher CO2 levels are not harmful to anyone. The scientifically proven effect would merely be to increase agricultural production in the region, again because CO2 is like oxygen for plants. But as Dick Morris explained in his column on November 22, “that’s what the EPA plans to do, virtually making economic growth illegal in large parts of the United States.”

    But the EPA is not stopping there. At the very same time, it is moving ahead with new regulations to further reduce the national ambient air quality standard for ground level ozone. In an editorial for the Heartland Institute, William Shugart explains:

    read pg 2 & 3 at link:

    http://spectator.org/archives/2010/12/01/obama-to-voters-drop-dead

  57. best tweet of the day

    Wikileaks reveal that a city can be glassed by a nuke easily smuggled into USA while the TSA is more worried about molesting your granmother’s tits.

    Kind of puts things in perspective.

  58. This is the pattern we see whenever Obama is confronted with a crisis. . . . Hide. I guess the American People are just fine with it, and still thrilled to have our first black president much beloved by the New York Times. Not everyone but alot of them, and many members of the 58% who puffed up their chests, voted for Barack and told us all what superior people they were for the the courageous act of not doing their homework and committing the greatest mistake in electoral history. By golly they showed all those white supremists. Yes, I feel very alone right now and have since the beginning. Call me a racist if you like, but I for one am not thrilled to have our first black president when it comes at the price of serial incompetence that threatens our nation. As I say I feel very alone right now. Because big media else is celebrating his abs, his nose in the air, and most of all his Houdini Act. If you want to be philosophical about all this you can say a democracy gets the kind of leader it deserves. I suppose whoever said that was a racist too if you ask cnn and msnbc who make a market in that kind of shit.

    why is President Obama hiding?

    The White House press secretary said only that Obama was “not happy” with the release. The president, meanwhile, is trying to look busy, busy on other things. Monday, he announced his plan to freeze federal wages, and yesterday, he gave a short speech after meeting with GOP leaders.

    He took no questions and never mentioned the largest security breach in American history.

    Michael Goodwin is a New York Post columnist

  59. WikiLeaks documents won’t hurt US foreign relations, Hillary Clinton says at global summit

    By Sean Alfano
    Daily News Staff Writer
    Wednesday, December 1st 2010

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remains in damage control mode days after a massive document dump by whistle-blower website WikiLeaks revealed embarrassing memos from U.S. diplomats to their foreign counterparts.

    Clinton told reporters Wednesday during a global security summit in Kazakhstan that the documents won’t hurt America’s international relations.

    “I have not any had any concerns expressed about whether any nation will not continue to work with and discuss matters of importance to us both going forward,” Clinton said.

    On Monday, Clinton called the leaks “not just an attack on America’s foreign policy interests. It is an attack on the international community.”

    Among the more than 250,000 diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks are memos under Clinton’s name suggesting America’s top diplomat asked subordinates to spy on their foreign counterparts, Agence France-Presse reported.

    In one instance, a memo signed by Clinton wanted U.S. diplomats to get “biographic and biometric information” on top North Korean diplomats at the United Nations in New York.

    The cables have WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange calling for Clinton to quit.

    “She should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up,” Assange told Time magazine Tuesday via Skype.

    The White House on Wednesday shot back, saying Clinton did nothing wrong.

    Assange’s statements are “both ridiculous and absurd,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gates told NBC’s “Today” show.

    Clinton spokesman Phillip Crowley also dismissed Assange’s claim, referring to the Australian former web hacker as an “anarchist.”

    “His actions seem to substantiate that.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/12/01/2010-12-01_wikileaks_documents_wont_hurt_us_foreign_relations_hillary_clinton_says_at_globa.html?r=news

  60. From the only people who are serious about defending our borders–Numbers USA:

    DREAM AMNESTY UPDATE

    Still no word on when — or if — the amnesty votes will start in the Senate. But our top Senate sources say the first vote would be next week at the earliest.

    Congratulations for again delaying the process with your activism.

    We do NOT want you to stop phoning or faxing even though the momentum is clearly in our direction:
    Majority Leader Reid has introduced yet another version of DREAM in his continuing attempts to fiddle with the language enough to get 60 votes. But the changes are minor and don’t deal with the key problems.

    All 42 Republican Senators have signed a letter this morning to Reid saying they will block DREAM if it is brought up before several major issues are dealt with. And only 2 of them are saying they will vote for it if other conditions are met. And several Democrats are leaning strongly against DREAM. At the moment, DREAM has lost (we just need 41 votes that are NO, “present” or not showing up.
    The reason your phoning and faxing needs to continue is that sometimes politicians promise one thing and then are offered incentives behind the scenes to switch their votes.

    Please go to your Action Board and take any actions we have posted for you there.

    http://www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet

    Also, please keep coming back to our home page for updates throughout each day.

  61. This is just plain disgusting…

    —————–
    ‘The Daily Show’: Is Hillary Clinton Embarrassed by Latest WikiLeaks?

    ‘The Daily Show’ (weeknights, 11PM ET on Comedy Central) weighed in on the impact of the latest leaks, riffing on footage from a press conference with Secretary of State (and head American diplomat) Hillary Clinton. One of the reporters asked Clinton if she was “embarrassed” by the leaks.

    Stewart had to laugh at this. “Is she embarrassed? Were you alive in the ’90s?” he asked. He was referring, of course, to “the Monica Lewinsky scandal.” He pointed out that the secretary of state is married to Bill Clinton — therefore, her capacity for being embarrassed is pretty high. Stewart compared Hillary’s “tolerance” for embarrassment to rocker Keith Richard’s legendary tolerance for drugs and alcohol.”

  62. Congressional Inaction Means More Hungry Americans

    Barring some miracle in Congress, extended unemployment benefits will run out for some 800,000 Americans at midnight December 1 and a total of two million by the end of December. What those stupid Republicans in Congress who are railing at the $12 billion “cost” of proposals to extend benefits don’t seem to care about, is, that failure of Congress to act, will mean that Americans, including children, will go hungry.

    Vicki Escarra, the CEO of Feeding America, a network of 200 food banks that feeds six million people every month: “I can assure you, if these unemployment insurance benefits are not reinstated, we’ll see these numbers go up.” She added: “Middle class families who have lost homes, who have lost jobs, who have any kind of illness… They don’t have any disposable income. The only area they can really give is around food, which is why we’re seeing such an increase in mothers and dads going without meals and making sure their children have food…”

    Escarra’s point is reinforced by Cynthia Carranza, the director of the Niles Township Food Pantry, in the Chicago suburbs. Carranza told the Pioneer Local that she’s never seen demand for food as high as it is now, in the five years she’s worked there. In the three days before Thanksgiving, the pantry gave away “roomfuls” of food and served food for more than 800 families, 200 of them on the last day. “I just didn’t think it would get that bad,” she said. “I saw more desperation than I have ever seen before. It was just unimaginable, the desperation I was seeing on people’s faces.”

    Meeting this growing need is becoming more difficult as food has become less available and more expensive. Imagine how much more difficult it will be when unemployment benefits run out for two million more people.

  63. The Messiah washes his hands of it, turns it over to the capable hands of tax cheater Gethener and Lew Lew. Another abdication of his responsibility to govern. Why govern when you can hide, and campaign to the delight of big media. Its an easy gig and it allows you to travel and smell the roses. And if the American People do not like it tough shit.
    ———————————————————————————————————-

    Every Senate Republican has signed onto a letter vowing to block all Democratic-backed legislation until the chamber extends the Bush tax cuts and approves a spending bill to keep the government running, Fox News has learned.

    Throwing down the gauntlet, all 42 members of the GOP caucus are sending the letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid warning him that they will bring matters to a standstill unless he swiftly brings those tax-and-spending issues to the floor.

    That means putting on the backburner a push to repeal the military’s policy banning gays from serving openly in the military, a bill giving illegal immigrant students and military members a pathway to legal status and an extension of long-term unemployment benefits.

    “While there are other items that might ultimately be worthy of the Senate’s attention, we cannot agree to prioritize any matters above the critical issues of funding the government and preventing a job-killing tax hike,” they wrote. “Given our struggling economy, preventing the tax increase and providing economic certainty should be our top priority.”

    A panel of administration officials and bipartisan lawmakers is getting to work Wednesday to try to hash out a compromise over what to do about the expiring Bush tax cuts. Democrats want them extended for all but the wealthy, while Republicans want them extended for everybody.

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    “We have full confidence we’re going to be able to handle all of this very well,” he said.

    But with Republicans vowing to deprive Democrats of the 60 votes they need to move toward a vote on virtually anything until these issues are addressed, negotiators will have to move quickly if they want to get to other matters before a new, more Republican Congress is sworn in next month.

    The administration is still looking to repeal the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy after the Pentagon issued a report Tuesday claiming the policy shift would not harm the military in the long-run.

    Democrats also want to extend long-term jobless benefits, which expired Tuesday. A memo circulated by a GOP analyst noted that Reid so far has not been able to peel off any Republicans to support the measure to give benefits beyond 99 weeks.

    The lame-duck Congress so far has approved a food safety bill, which still needs a final vote in the House, and a $4.5 billion settlement payment to black farmers and American Indians who claimed they were discriminated against by the U.S. Departments of Agriculture and Interior.

    Lawmakers also passed a one-month extension of the “doc fix” that prevents cuts to Medicare approved 15 years ago from going into effect, but without action the rates paid to doctors for treating those insured by the entitlement program will plummet on Jan. 1.

    It’s not just Republicans who are concerned about the way the lame-duck session became a dumping ground for campaign promises and wish-list legislation.
    Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., was caught on a hot mic in the Senate ripping the lame-duck agenda, which was set exclusively by his party, as “rigged” and done without a discussion among members.

    Aside from the tax rates, lawmakers must pass this week a continuing resolution to keep the government functioning. Election-harried Democrats opted against producing a budget at all this year, preferring to punt questions on tax rates and spending until after Nov. 2. So, the government relies on a series of patches to keep operating. Similarly, lawmakers must vote on a supplemental appropriation to fund military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The filibuster threat increases pressure on the White House to offer a more realistic agenda for the remaining weeks of the year. For example, if Congress doesn’t act on the tax cuts, it means Republicans will be in position to enact their own, retroactive plan starting Jan. 1 without having to make any concessions to Democratic demands for upper-income earners.

  64. I still think the whole Monica thing made Hillary as tough as nails, it made her stronger, sometimes you just to go through lifes shit to be able to become the person you are.

    as i said yesterday, there is pretty much not much else they can do to Bill and Hill that they have not done already. She can handle it.

  65. Ohanson what you fail to grasp here is that the Democrats still have the majority in both houses until January, if they wanted to do this, they would have. They DID’NT.

  66. The one thing Gingrich said last night that stuck with me is earmarks ARE corruption. It therefore follows that non conservative republicans like Collins and Murkowski who voted for them are ipso facto corrupt. Ditto the democrats who voted for them of course, but they were herded like cattle by Barack into voting for them. He holds the whammy over them and there is nothing they can do but submit. That is very much the problem. They whine but they always submit.

  67. Ohanson what you fail to grasp here is that the Democrats still have the majority in both houses until January, if they wanted to do this, they would have. They DID’NT.
    ———————————————-
    I agree with you. Technically, they would face a fillerbuster because the republicans have 41 votes. But if they really wanted to solve this problem–rather than using it in a political game of chicken, then they would unbundle it and Obama would put the amorous moves on Olympia Snowe and she would submit to the sweet sound of his voice on the telephone–it has worked before. And Collins–she is made of sterner stuff/ Her price would be a big fat earmark for her state–and her vote to preserve earmarks proves it. The bottom line is exactly what you say–they dont want it they want to use it to paint the republicans out as cold and heartless, and the republicans need to have an answer for that better than what we have heard up to now.

  68. Jamie Rubin posts a good follow-up article to Hillary’s remarks (although we maintain that it is important for Americans to know about Obama’s private deals to trade Poland and Czech Republic security aims for nonexistent Russian help on Iran):

    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/79531/the-irony-wikileaks-american-diplomacy-hard-left

    There’s no question that many of the Wikileaks documents are a great read. These diplomatic conversations between American officials and leaders from the Arab world, China, and Europe provide important insights about the subtleties of U.S. policy and the complexities of dealing with different personalities and governments around the world. But the disclosures are not just interesting; they are also ironic. That’s because they undermine the very worldview that Julian Assange and his colleagues at Wikileaks almost certainly support.

    By and large, the hard left in America and around the world would prefer to see the peaceful resolution of disputes rather than the use of military force. World peace, however, is a lot harder to achieve if the U.S. State Department is cut off at the knees. And that is exactly what this mass revelation of documents is going to do. The essential tool of State Department diplomacy is trust between American officials and their foreign counterparts. Unlike the Pentagon which has military forces, or the Treasury Department which has financial tools, the State Department functions mainly by winning the trust of foreign officials, sharing information, and persuading. Those discussions have to be confidential to be successful. Destroying confidentiality means destroying diplomacy.

    This is not to say there isn’t an important place for quality journalism that may, at times, rely on sensitive diplomatic exchanges or that seeks particular information through leaks. Without such journalism, the American public would have never known about the abuses at Abu Ghraib or the electronic surveillance programs of the National Security Agency that became rightly controversial during the Bush administration. In those cases, there was a higher principle at stake than protecting the secrecy of diplomatic exchanges. Government-sponsored torture or domestic spying on U.S. citizens without legal oversight are profound questions of policy that merit substantial public knowledge. But, in the undifferentiated mass disclosure of diplomatic conversations, there is no higher principle to merit damaging the foundations of American diplomacy.

    Fortunately, there is little or no discussion in the cables, as yet, of the Middle East peace process. Would the supporters of Wikileaks want secret Middle East diplomacy to promote peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis to be made public, too? Do they have any understanding of how difficult it is for Israeli and Palestinian leaders to make the compromises necessary for peace under the glare of public pressure? My guess is the special envoy for President Obama, former Senator George Mitchell, has created a separate reporting channel for his discussions with Arab and Israeli leaders, outside the normal State Department diplomatic channels. But had he not done so, there is every reason to believe that Wikileaks would have dumped that information, along with the other 250,000 cables. Would the likely outcome of such disclosures—the imperiling of the peace process—really have been something that accorded with the left’s professed goals in the Middle East?

    There’s another irony here, too. The Wikileaks document dump, unlike the Pentagon Papers in the 1970s, shows that American private communication with foreign leaders by and large reflects the same sentiments offered by U.S. officials in public. There is no grand conspiracy, no grand hypocrisy to uncover and expose. The big hypocrisies here are not being perpetrated by Americans; they are being perpetrated by foreign governments, namely non-democratic ones.

    Yet those on the hard left are usually the loudest critics of America imposing its own values, its own way of doing business, and its own culture on other countries. For better or worse, in many parts of the world there’s a big difference between what government officials are prepared to do publicly and what they’re prepared to say and do privately. We may wish it otherwise, but those are the realities faced by U.S. officials. The hard left, so quick to demand that America accept other countries’ political systems, now seems blind to the fact that other governments want to have the right to say one thing in public and a different thing in private. By respecting that difference, American diplomats are doing their job. Surely the Obama administration, like the Bush administration before it, would prefer for Arab leaders to be as honest and open and transparent as we are in our country. Until such democratic values come to the Arab world, however, we have to work with what we’ve got. U.S. diplomacy has been damaged, not destroyed; it will recover after a time. But for now, Wikileaks is making diplomacy’s task a whole lot harder.

  69. Conservative Don Surber at the Daily Mail thinks the WikiLeaks target is Hillary Clinton because she threatens Obama:

    http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/25812

    The Wikileaks scandal is not that it was leaked but it is a blatant attempt to eliminate Hillary Clinton as a threat to Barack Obama’s re-election.

    That is the only conclusion that I can reach upon reading this from Time magazine:[snip]

    His target was Hillary Clinton.

    This is a political assassination that deserves inquiry by the Republican House come January. Forget getting Julian Assange on publishing the leaks. Find out who leaked.

    We know why.

  70. DECEMBER 1, 2010

    WikiLeaks Shelters in Amazon Servers

    WikiLeaks is using Amazon.com Inc. servers in the U.S. to help deliver leaked U.S. diplomatic cables, as the controversial website combats powerful Internet-based attacks.

    WikiLeaks said Tuesday it was the target of a computer attack that overwhelmed its website and made it inaccessible for a few hours to some users. The site also claimed to be attacked on Sunday shortly before releasing the cables, many of which were classified.

    The organization said in its official Twitter account it was hit with distributed denial of service attacks on both days. In this sort of attack, many computers flood a server with requests or use other techniques to prevent the server from displaying a Web page. WikiLeaks didn’t identify the attackers.

    Using Amazon’s server-for-rent service can provide stability when WikiLeaks is attacked. Amazon and WikiLeaks didn’t return requests for comment.

    The group’s site cablegate.wikileaks.org linked to servers run by Amazon Web Services in Seattle, as well as to French company Octopuce. Wikileaks.org, the site’s front page, linked back to Amazon servers in the U.S. and in Ireland. Several Internet watchers, including Alex Norcliffe, noted WikiLeaks’ use of Amazon services. The choice of Amazon, a U.S. company, appears to present new problems given the criticism WikiLeaks has received from the U.S. government. But experts said it was unlikely Amazon would face legal action for selling services to WikiLeaks.

    For one thing, now that the information disclosed by the site is already public, it might not be considered contraband, said Jonathan Zittrain, a professor of law and computer science at Harvard University.

    Eben Moglen, a law professor at Columbia University, said the location of hardware can make a difference legally, but there wouldn’t be much point in getting Amazon to stop providing services to WikiLeaks. “For all practical purposes…if the law is unfavorable, that Web server process will go somewhere else,” he said.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575647152417805496.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  71. admin
    December 1st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    Conservative Don Surber at the Daily Mail thinks the WikiLeaks target is Hillary Clinton because she threatens Obama

    ————
    And that is why he is not defending her. Shame on the coward.

  72. We knew they would try something and of course the leak is right at Hillary’s door, tad convenient.

    I hope Hillary is keeping count and has taken down the insurance because sooner or later Obama’s goons will try and nail her for it. If they do manage to somehow topple her, I hope she runs in 2012 for the hell of it for payback.

    if they want a war, we’ll give it to them.

  73. Jan–if his natural response to a crisis was to jump into the fray, then the fact that he has avoided the issue here and not defended her would be probative. But it is in his nature to hide, thus the fact that he is doing the same thing here is unremarkable. Furthermore, if the goal is to eliminate Hillary as a contender, then he does not have to burn down this own house to cook a steak. The scope of this thing is beyond Manning and beyond Obama. They are just a pair of little bitches in the grand scheme of things. This is a Soros deal, sure as God made little green apples. He tanks market and he tanks countries for a living–that is what he does, and it is who he is.

  74. If this is a Hillary political assination sabotage, then the scandal most definitely is has Obama deliberately sacrificed national security for political gains and should be impeached.

  75. admin
    December 1st, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Conservative Don Surber at the Daily Mail thinks the WikiLeaks target is Hillary Clinton because she threatens Obama:
    ——————-

    It is beginning to dawn on many, commenters and bloggers alike that Hillary was the target of this leak because she poses a threat to Obama in 2012. Can you imagine the implications if people fully realize that Obama or his cronies put foreign policy matters at risk for some political shenanigans on a purported rival? My sense is that they thought just dumping this would start a cry for her resignation. But that didn’t happen. Friends and foes alike came to her defense which is why there was that big headline from that wikileaks guy saying she should resign. That has backfired as well with everyone saying who is he to tell us what to do. Obama leaking his own admin confidences and secrets.. now that should get people’s attention.

  76. There is a trump card here that is not being played. It was raised by Hillary Hater Goodwin in the portion of the article which I did not post in deference to the sensibilities of many of us on this blog. But the question he raised was if we knew about these Wikileaks before this happened why did Hillary not take pre-emptive action? It is a great question, and it is more than rhetorical. Knowing Hillary as we do, do you really believe that if she knew about this in advance, that she did not bring it to Obama’s attention? To Gates attention? Do you. She his one of the most cautious and proactive leaders you will ever see and it is unthinkable that she did not bring it to Obama’s attention, and make a recommendation to shut down wiki leaks. Remember this is the same person who told the world that if Iran attacked Israel that Iran would be eliminated. Logic, common sense and experience all point to the same conclusion: she recommended pre emptive action and Obama true to form froze up like a fresco painting. If he were proactive I would say Soros got to him. But since he is reticient and cowardly by nature, as evidenced how he has handled prior crises, there is no need to reach that conclusion. All we need to assume, quite logically, is that he was told, he was advised and he failed to act. Consequently, as the damage to the United States becomes more apparent, there will come a point where it brings down his presidency. And that is the ultimate trump card she is holding, I submit.

  77. Jan…like to see them try, any thing revealed so far would have had to have been put through the cabinet, Obama and his advisors, The buck stops at the WH not with her.

  78. Mrs. Smith
    Assange is a dead man walking!

    ———
    Couldn’t happen to a better candidate.

    I don’t give him any credit for possibly starting with altruistic motives, (transparency). I believe his quest for fame nears that of Nero Barry. Me, me, me. I don’t even think money is his prime motivating factor.

    To Hell with anyone in their way, especially an intelligent woman.

    The little twerp needs to rot in jail.

  79. wbboei…exactly, who refused to plug the leak, that ought to be the charge of an investigation.

    After all this was the 3rd leak not the first, so who didnt plug the first 2 leaks and allowed the 3rd.

  80. wbboei, she wouldnt have had to, it would have been in the national security briefing Obama gets, a massive leak like this would go to the NSA, the pentagon, homeland security, the WH, they all must of known….just who the hell did nothing about it, in this case Obama must have known so the buck stops there.

  81. moononpluto
    December 1st, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Ohanson what you fail to grasp here is that the Democrats still have the majority in both houses until January, if they wanted to do this, they would have. They DIDN’T.
    =================
    You are right. Imo, what Dems should have done is put it forward, then if Repubs blocked or filibustered, gone public everywhere saying, “Look what these assholes are doing.”

  82. wbboei, she wouldnt have had to, it would have been in the national security briefing Obama gets, a massive leak like this would go to the NSA, the pentagon, homeland security, the WH, they all must of known….just who the hell did nothing about it, in this case Obama must have known so the buck stops there.

    ——————

    Unless obama through soros and others new about this all along.

  83. Yes but the point i’m making is regardless once the intelligence bureaus knew of the 1st leak, Obama knew, regardless of which dept, it became his responsibility. He had plenty of time to order wikileaks found after the 1st, then the 2nd and taken out because we all know they could do this…so why wasnt it done?

    Who stood to gain by taking this information.

  84. It is hypothetically possible that when Hillary told Obama about the threat and recommended pre emptive action that he met with his kitchen cabinet of Michelle, Jarrett, Gibbs and Rouse, and they decided that they could take no pre emptive action, let the shit hit the fan and then distance themselves from Hillary. And of course they could enlist the Hillary hating jourolisters to complete the kill. Well, if those were the machinations, it has not quite worked out as planned. Key Republicans came to Hillary’s defense while democrats simply hid under their beds. And although some in big media followed did their joseph goebels routine other are having a tough time looking themselves in the mirror these days and would not sign on for more treasonous act. But the biggest oversight of the kitchen cabinet is that by doing nothing they left themselves vulnerable to the charge that they did nothing and for that they will swing. Now of course they realize their peril and are huffing and puffington about how this was criminal and they will prosecute to the full extent of the law. But the question Hillary hater Goodwin posed and answered re Hillary will now be directed to them, once it becomes common knowledge that in the moment of decision Obama elevated politics over the security of this nation.

  85. WikiLeaks: Can Hillary Clinton survive ‘cablegate’?

    Evidence the Secretary of State approved “spying” on U.N. leaders has led to calls for her resignation — but are the charges being overblown?

    posted on December 1, 2010

    Obama has “great confidence” in Hillary Clinton, says White House press secretary Robert Gibbes.

    Best Opinion: Slate, Wash. Times, National Journal

    Hillary Clinton is under fire after the WikiLeaks “cablegate” data dump revealed that she sanctioned the collection of confidential information, including biometric data and credit card details, about U.N. leaders and foreign diplomats. The State Department cables were signed in Clinton’s name, and some say this intelligence-gathering amounts to “spying” on the U.N. leadership — an act that contradicts several international laws. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has called for Clinton to resign, as has Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, but the White House is standing firm behind her. Can she continue in her current position?

    Hillary has lost trust, and must resign: Clinton is done for, says Jack Shafer at Slate. Foreign diplomats will never trust her again, and even those who forgive her will forever see her as “the symbol of an overreaching United States.” Though it’s not surprising that this kind of activity goes on, proof that the Secretary of State actively sanctions it is deeply humiliating for the U.S. The only way to help “other nations… save face will be to give them Clinton’s scalp.”
    “WikiLeaks, Hillary Clinton, and the Smoking Gun”

    This type of intelligence-gathering has gone on for years: Much as it pains me to say it, says James S. Robbins in the Washington Times, we “need to give Hillary Clinton a break.” The State Department has collected intelligence for decades, and everyone knows U.S. embassies keep close ties with the C.I.A. It’s simply business as usual. “Had the Obama administration ended this collection program, it would have been engaging in unilateral disarmament.”
    “Hillary Clinton’s State Department spooks”

    Hillary isn’t even responsible for this anyway: Hillary Clinton did not “order diplomats to spy,” says Marc Ambinder at the National Journal. These cables were just a handful of the hundreds of thousands that go out in the Secretary of State’s name each year. It’s also highly unlikely that U.S. diplomats tapped U.N. phones and collected data. “In all probability, that task fell to case officers at the C.I.A’s New York field office and F.B.I. counterintelligence agents.”

    http://theweek.com/article/briefing_blog/103/wikileaks

  86. wbboei, she wouldnt have had to, it would have been in the national security briefing Obama gets, a massive leak like this would go to the NSA, the pentagon, homeland security, the WH, they all must of known….just who the hell did nothing about it, in this case Obama must have known so the buck stops there.
    ——————————-
    Either way, he failed to act. It was not within Hillary’s power to shut down this site. It was his decision, and that is the rub. His lack of a decision is the issue. The frantic attempt by his people tho blame Hillary has run out of gas and he will be the target. It is enough for her to prove that she recommended proactive steps and he failed to take them.

  87. Jack Shafer is a tabloid journalist which his one step below a sewer rat. Writing for Slate he has found the right sewer. Foreign diplomats will never trust her again? And how does he know that? How many foreign diplomats does jack off jack know personally? How many of them have told him that? What is his foreign policy experience? Was he an ambassador before he became a sewer rat? He claims to be a libertarian. So he does not believe in government to begin with. So where does he get this kind of laser insight? And how much was he paid by Obama people to print that kind of crap?

  88. Jack Shafer was soundly and substantively rebutted in that Marc Ambinder’s piece in the National Journal (linked above).

  89. “If this is a Hillary political assination sabotage, then the scandal most definitely is has Obama deliberately sacrificed national security for political gains and should be impeached.”

    Absolutely, mp! And if Wobbie is correct, let’s hope Hillary does in fact have a trump card up her sleeve.

    *****
    btw, narcissistic personality has been officially removed from the Psychiatrists’ Manual:

    http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2010/11/barack-obama-finally-wins-one.html

    “As Charles Zanor reports in today’s Science Times, the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders — due out in 2013 and known as D.S.M.-5 — has eliminated five of the 10 personality disorders that are listed in the current edition. The best known of these is narcissistic personality disorder.

    ‘It is a puzzle why the manual’s committee on personality disorders has decided to throw N.P.D. off the bus. Many experts in the field are not happy about it….One of the sharpest critics of the D.S.M. committee on personality disorders is a Harvard psychiatrist, Dr. John Gunderson, an old lion in the field of personality disorders and the person who led the personality disorders committee for the current manual’.”

  90. pm317
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
    moononpluto, that youtube shows you MO saying Obama could get shot going to the gas station on 60 Minutes.
    &&&&&&&&

    With Obama proposing a two year freeze on Federal pay, it might be left wingers he needs to be concerned about.

    And exactly when, pray tell Mrs Sleeveless, does Barack “go to the gas station”? He probably last had to buy gas before 2006.

  91. Well Obama wanted Hillary out, she was getting way too many cudos from us and world leaders. This leak as someone said above provided this and it also provided a way to ruin thin inroads she’d made in the last two years….

    Of coarse Obama was going to do this, he just didn’t want her resignation, he wanted her destroyed….so I expect they’ll be more coming out…..and WHY isn’t the MSM saying that Condi Rice signed the very same paper????

    Wasn’t it Condi Rice that was just seen at the WH with Obama and came out and said that maybe someday she’d would run for office???

  92. I wonder what they threatened them with

    US Homeland Security: Amazon agrees to stop hosting WikiLeaks documents.

  93. Mop,
    Nothing…she should fight them to her last breath!

    Monica Crowley deserves to be married to Dickie Morris….they are both cut off the same freaking tree.

    Why is no one bringing up the fact that Condi Rice signed the very same paper….WHY? Not one single network is saying this!

  94. I really think some of the docs in the wikileaks dump must be planted. It’s classic counter-espionage tactics; if you have a known mole/leak, give them disinformation wrapped in non-important real information.
    I just wonder what… from the way NYT is flogging it, my guess is the “Iran has scary nukes zomg” stuff.
    Bambi may think the only way to save his skin in 2012 is to have a new war — so let’s bomb Iran! Or even better, push paranoid Ahmadinejad into firing the first shot by convincing him that all his neighbors are against him and that someone is bombing his nuclear scientists.
    And taking out Hillary is a bonus.

  95. According to John Bolton….the fake part of the whole dump is Hillary Clinton asking the diplomats to spy….he said that yesterday. I posted it above.

  96. What i also don’t understand is that if they he wanted to do maximum political damage to the US, surely Assange would have dropped this right before the midterms, it would have caused chaos.

  97. The self-proclaimed voices of the left keep rolling over for Bambi no matter what, so he may think that they will keep clapping even if he bombs Iran.

  98. Look at this Obama is having a war with his own people…he wants to bring America down!

    ————————————————————

    Salazar: Offshore oil drilling ban to be maintained in key areas
    By Juliet Eilperin
    Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced Wednesday afternoon that the Obama administration will not allow offshore oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico or off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts as part of the next five-year drilling plan, reversing two key policy changes President Obama announced in late March.

    President Obama talks about endorsing expansion of offshore drilling. (Footage via http://www.whitehouse.gov/The Washington Post)”We are adjusting our strategy in areas where there are no active leases,” Salazar told reporters in a phone call, adding that the administration has decided “not expand to new areas at this time” and instead “focus and expand our critical resources on areas that are currently active” when it comes to oil and gas drilling.

    In March–less than a month before the BP oil spill–Obama and Salazar said they would open up the eastern Gulf and parts of the Atlantic, including off the coast of Virginia, to offshore oil and gas exploration. On both of those new areas, the administration said it would start scoping to see if oil and gas drilling would be suitable. The eastern Gulf remains closed to drilling under a congressional moratorium, but the White House indicated it would press to lift the moratorium if necessary.

    Wednesday’s announcement is sure to please environmentalists while angering oil and gas companies as well as some lawmakers from both parties who have pressed for continued offshore energy exploration in the wake of massive Gulf of Mexico spill.

    According to multiple individuals briefed on the plan, the Obama administration will proceed with scoping for possible drilling in the central and western Gulf of Mexico and in the Arctic as part of the upcoming 2012-2017 Outer Continental Shelf program, while keeping the other areas off limits.

    The administration is likely to conduct a new environmental assessment of Shell’s plan to conduct drilling in the Arctic, the sources added.

    Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), who has consistently pushed to restrict drilling in the eastern gulf, welcomed the news. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar called the senator Wednesday morning, according to Nelson spokesman Dan McLaughlin, but the two men did not speak yet because Nelson is chairing a hearing.

    “Drilling off Florida’s Gulf coast is banned at least until 2022, under a 2006 law passed by Senator Nelson,” McLaughlin said. “The senator is pleased the White House has decided rightly to keep the area off-limits. He hopes Florida’s next governor and the Legislature similarly will commit to protecting the state’s tourism economy and unique environment.”

    Activists such as Margie Alt, executive director of Environment America, also praised the administration’s plan, saying, “Today, anyone who loves our beaches, who fishes in the ocean or who depends on a healthy coastal economy can thank the Obama administration for protecting the Atlantic and Pacific coasts and the west coast of Florida from oil drilling. The BP disaster earlier this year was a tragic reminder that drilling is a dirty and dangerous business. The only way to truly keep our coasts and ocean ecosystems safe is to keep them rig free.”

    But the move could spark a backlash from business interests as well from both many congressional Republicans and conservative Democrats such as Sen. Manry Landrieu, who argue that curbing offshore energy exploration could exacerbate the nation’s economic woes.

    Karen Harbert, president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for 21st Century Energy, said in a statement, “The Administration is sending a message to America’s oil and gas industry: take your capital, technology, and jobs somewhere else.”

    Rep. Doc Hastings (Wash.), the top Republican on the House Resources Committee, issued a statement Wednesday afternoon accusing the administration of “taking the wrong approach in responding to the BP spill and creating energy and energy jobs in this country. The answer isn’t to give up and say, ‘America can’t figure it out, we’ll rely on other countries to produce our energy.’ The answer is to find out what went wrong and make effective, timely reforms to ensure that U.S. offshore drilling is the safest in the world.”

  99. We made the connection of exactly who Soros is- what he’s about- and where he is going- who he services… the mega wealthy. WE labeled him an agent because that is what he does. Obama is HIS frontman.
    ***********

    Mrs Smith, I, as i said, understand this, and am aware of the reseach that was done by the three of you on this blog and by others elsewhere. What i am saying really is no different. he is an agent, a front man and when he falls, ashe surel ill, by his age at least we have a good chance in the next decade of that happeninng, there will be and probably is already, an heir apparent to continu

  100. Here is an example of Obama convoluting information to fit the mood because Gibbs appearance of the Today Show was a disaster:

    I begin at 7:20am-

    1.) Mrs. Smith
    December 1st, 2010 at 7:21 am

    Viera interviewing Gibbs this morning on Today:

    Did Hillary Clinton issue the spying directive to US diplomats? (Gibbs skirts the y/n question) Says, our diplomats do their very best for the country and Sect Clinton has done a good job in the interests of the country- (all praphrased)

    Call me crazy, when Gibbs had the chance to protect the State Dept, he followed Obama’s orders. (provide NO cover for Secretary Clinton)
    ________________________________________

    Two hours later, we have this rendition of the 7:20am interview with Viera:

    2.)Mrs. Smith
    December 1st, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Revisionist history. I listened to the live interview @ 7am.. and never heard these words uttered by Gibbs mentioned in this article.

    Gibbs did such a good job of dancing around Viera’s question, he definately should be a candidate for DWTS!
    ___________________
    Gibbs supposed statement as reported by the WP:

    “Dec. 1, 2010 that Assange’s statements “are both ridiculous and absurd.” Clinton, he said, has done nothing wrong, and U.S. diplomats do not engage in spying. He spoke in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show.
    ____________

    Sweet Jesus, read the rest of the article at the link\
    Don’t forget to bring your high waders!
    __________________________________________

    Almost 4 hours later the story has again morfed to Bob Gates making the statement:

    JanH 10:49

    The White House on Wednesday shot back, saying Clinton did nothing wrong.

    Assange’s statements are “both ridiculous and absurd,” White House Press Secretary ***Robert Gates*** told NBC’s “Today” show.
    ___________________________

  101. Sorry about that, it should not have posted. let me try to clean that up.

    Mrs Smith, as I said, I understand this, and am aware of the reseach that was done by the three of you on this blog and by others elsewhere. What I am saying really is no different. He is an agent, a front man, and when he falls, as he surely will, by his age alone we have at least a good chance in the next decade of that happeninng, there will be, and probably is already, a heir apparent to prolong this continuum of abuse by the extraordinarily wealthy. It is this that is so discouraging, but like Frodo, we must forge on, the carriers of the one true king ( queen in this case ) to defeat the evil “one”. These are just skirmishes, the real battle lays before us, and like the trilogy, we must, and have been, making strange alliances, Republicans, Tea party, Pumas, FDR Dems, and so forth.

  102. gonzotx
    December 1st, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    We’ll have to wait and see if an heir apparant has the same fire Soros has to want to destroy America and Rule the World. It’s a pretty big order to fill.

  103. 2 years out and she can only hit 45%

    McCaskill Faces Tough Re-Election Race
    A new Public Policy Polling survey shows that Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) could have a tough re-election race in 2012 no matter who the Republicans nominate to challenge her.

    In a hypothetical rematch with her 2006 opponent, former Sen. Jim Talent (R-MO), Talent leads her, 47% to 45%. She trails Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder, (R) 46% to 44%, and edges Sarah Steelman (R), 45% to 44%. All the results are within the poll’s margin of error.

    “All in all these numbers should be no surprise — with this year as a notable exception Missouri tends to have some of the closest elections in the country and it doesn’t look like this one will be any different.”

  104. Didn’t Shafer take a hit to his credibility when he was an editor and didn’t fact check an article which was later found to be completely false? Given his tendency to not check that which he should, I wouldn’t trust Shafer to know what he is talking about now, anymore than he did then.

  105. Also, I’ve read some of the actions that Wikileaks has tried to cast nefariously, but I’m not buying that particular characterization.

    For instance, the collection of biometric data. While it was made out to be a big deal of sorts by Wikileaks, the recording of this data is fairly commonplace at certain levels of social engagement. I’ve had my fingerprints taken and iris scanned in order to confirm my identity; heck, at one point a fingerprint rematching was required every time you left the room!, and I’m hardly an international diplomat.

    That the US would be collecting this information then, is not a big deal to me. Further, if the world continues to globalize like it has over the last 20 years, then sooner or later, some sort of information management at a worldwide level will be necessary. Of course, as Admin points out, Obama was a fake during the campaign when it came to managing technology, and he still doesn’t know how to function in the internet age. When you also consider that just recently in Pakistan, there was that guy who acted like he was some high level Taliban negotiator; well then, sometimes, it’s in our best interest to have our own data.

    I don’t think you can fault the US for taking to account these very real considerations, and I think Assange will have to try a lot harder if he wants to make a big fuss about the US gathering data on other countries.

  106. So it was Joe lieberman that forced Amazon to force the closure of the Amazon hosted wikileaks.

    They are really stirring up a hornets nest of liberty shit.

  107. gonzotx
    December 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Whether it’s Soros or an heir apparent- Soros can only implement his agenda through the Oval Office. This is a once in a lifetime venture- with just “one” chance for bite at the apple.

  108. Mrs. Smith
    December 1st, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    I think “they” have had their hands in the WH for a very long time.

  109. condi has sure stayed silent on this.

    I think Amazon.com should be tarred and feathered for aiding and abetting in the first place.

  110. gonzotx, would not surprise me if since 2000, they took Gore out and Bush was another Yes man, Bush had 2 dodgy elections, thats no coincidence, then the shenannigans of 2008, none of it is coincidence.

    Which is why i have very little faith in 2012.

  111. Lou Dobbs has a poll question on his radio show today – WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Tells TIME: Hillary Clinton ‘Should Resign’ because of her diplomatic actions discovered in the cables released by Wikileaks. Should she?

    62% say NO

  112. “Unless obama through soros and others new about this all along.”
    ________________________

    The leaks were not only planned , they were orchestrated to undermine and erode Hillary’s credibility. Obama, his consorts, Assange and Soros are the guilty parties.

    As I said yesterday, the “tell” was leak # 2 about the Saudi King Abdullah’s happiness Obama is president.. Leak # 3 was the derogatory statement about Hillary.

    Out of hundreds of thousands of cables, why pick her to be the bad guy in the third of 3 leaks? When Obama is the dilettante, do nothing president hated by countries all over the globe.

    So the leaks were controlled by someone intent on sending a message to his readers… who has motive to upend Hillary? Who wants to be reelected to a second term? The answers keep falling at Obama’s feet.

    And of course, if the Wikileaks are considered a breach of classified and confidential information why didn’t Obama put a stop to their release?

    He voted present!

  113. Mrs. Smith,
    I totally agree! How/why would they pick these things out of the quarter of million documents to put on-line first. Clearly they weren’t proceeding from beginning which was way back in GWB’s administration. They started with Hillary! Very suspicious! The journolisters are still working for the messiah. Hillary must not be playing ball with the NWO’s. She almost singlehandedly solved the middleeast crisis while BoBo was off in India….that scared the hell out of them….
    My opinion, she should stick around long enough to clean up the mess then stick it to Obama and the rethugs and join up with Sarah!

  114. It’s my opinion if Sarah and Hillary were to get together their would be great shaking going on in D.C. The two of them could needle just about everybody from the media to George Soros by merely using FB and Tweeter! That’s free and they could start a grass movement that could overwhelm the two bought and paid for parties!

  115. OMG, Bobo is meeting with Colin Powell and last week or so it was Condi Rice….hell soon he’ll have GWB and Bush I in there….

  116. LOL! So now the kool-aid drinkers are going to find out who they really hired! I am going to laugh me ass off!

    I am just worried as hell about social security….they haven’t told us what the cuts will be yet….I smell a revolution coming!

  117. Ensign’s lawyers say DOJ has informed him he is no longer target of probe.

    Guess it was another fit up.

  118. moononpluto
    December 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    gonzotx, would not surprise me if since 2000, they took Gore out and Bush was another Yes man, Bush had 2 dodgy elections, thats no coincidence, then the shenannigans of 2008, none of it is coincidence.

    Which is why i have very little faith in 2012.
    *****************

    I think way before 2000…
    ********

    ” I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country. ”

    Thomas Jefferson, 3rd US president 1801-1809
    ***********

    “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country…corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.”

    President Abraham Lincoln
    ******************

    and now “TOO BIG TO FAIL”

    A Brief History of Corporations

    by Joel Bleifuss

    In These Times magazine, February 1998

    Corporations can’t cast a ballot, but they do vote with their wallets. In the 1995-96 election cycle, corporations and corporate PACs contributed $147 million to candidates running for federal office. The United States is one of the few democracies where such donations are legal. The Supreme Court affirmed the right of corporations to pay for electoral campaigns in the 1978 case First National Bank v. Bellotti. Writing for the majority, Justice Lewis Powell explained that giving cash to influence the outcome of an election “is the type of speech indispensable to decision making in a democracy, and this is no less true because the speech comes from a corporation rather than an individual.”

    Indeed, under the prevailing interpretation of the Constitution, corporations have the same rights as individuals. This was not always the case: American corporations gained these protections in the 19th century, when the Supreme Court, in a series of rulings, defined the relationship between business and the state. Those rulings shielded companies from government regulation and thus allowed the corporation to become the dominant form of economic organization. [In] the 21st century, the combined gross revenues of the 200 largest corporations exceed the GDP of all but the nine richest nations. In this context, it is important to know how corporations came to hold such sway over our everyday lives, and what can be done about it.

    The first corporations appeared in 17th-century Europe, during capitalism’s infancy. At the time, the government chartered all corporations-that is, it gave them a specific public mission in exchange for the formal right to exist. The United States was settled by one such corporation, the Massachusetts Bay Company, which King Charles I chartered in 1628 in order to colonize the New World. The practice of chartering companies was a crucial part of the mercantile economic system practiced by the epoch’s great powers-Holland, Spain and England. By allowing investors to pool their capital, the monarch made it possible for companies to launch ventures that would have been beyond the means of one person. And in exchange for the charter, companies expanded their government’s wealth and power by creating colonies that served both as sources of raw materials and as markets for exported goods.

    But in the 18th century, the Enlightenment challenged this model of economic organization by putting forward the idea that people need not be subjects in feudal structures but could act as individuals. American revolutionaries, inspired by radical notions of “unalienable rights” to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” fought for independence not only from the Crown, but from the corporate bodies it had chartered. The Boston Tea Party, for example, was a protest against the British East India Company’s monopoly of Eastern trade. Another critic was Adam Smith, whose Wealth of Nations was published in the same year as the Declaration of Independence. Influenced by John Calvin, Smith believed that human resourcefulness and industry were earthly signs of God’s favor, and thus that wealth obtained in a market economy was an expression of “natural justice.” Smith, however, did not think that corporations were a natural part of this order. Arguing that large business associations limit competition, he wrote, “The pretense that corporations are necessary to the better government of the trade is without foundation.”

    In the infancy of the republic, Americans gave little thought to corporations. In 1787, fewer than 40 corporations operated in the United States. By 1800, that number had grown to 334. Like the British corporations before them, these companies were typically chartered by the state to perform specific public functions, such as digging canals, building bridges, constructing turnpikes or providing financial services. In return for this public service, the state granted corporations permanence, limited liability and the right to own property.

    American manufacturers began to form corporations only when trade with Europe was shut down by President Thomas Jefferson’s embargo of France and Britain from 1807 to 1809 and by the War of 1812. In order to supply the domestic market with the manufactured goods that had previously come from England, Americans formed new companies to amass the capital needed to build factories. The rise of these associations-created not to fulfill a public mission, but to create private wealth-led to a legal dilemma: How would these new forms of business enterprise be treated under the law?

    That task fell to the Supreme Court, then under the leadership of John Marshall, a staunch federalist from Virginia. The Marshall Court (1801-1835) created a national market by striking down trade barriers between the states. It also set precedent for later pro-business interpretations of the Constitution by invoking the Constitution’s “obligation of contracts” clause (Article 1, Section 10), which states that “no state shall … pass any … Iaw imparing the obligation of contracts.” For example, in Fletcher v. Peck (1810), the Supreme Court refused to allow the Georgia legislature to right a wrong committed by a previ- \) ous heavily corrupt legislature, because to do so would entail voiding contracts that had been made in good faith. Not all justices agreed that business reigned supreme. Chief Justice Roger Taney, an Andrew Jackson appointee who served from 1836 to~ 1864, tried to ameliorate the Marshall Court’s rulings on the sanctity of contracts. In Charles River Bridge v. the Proprietors of the Warren Bridge (1837), he wrote for the majority, “The continued existence of a government would be of no great value, if by implications and presumptions, it was disarmed of the powers necessary to accomplish the ends of its creation; and the functions it was designed to perform, transferred to the hands of privileged corporations.”

    In the 1880s and 1890s, the Supreme Court allowed state courts to apply the Marshall Court’s principles on a larger scale. At the time, states with strong Populist movements were passing laws to regulate corporations and the robber barons who owned them. But the courts, using Marshall’s interpretation of the inviolability of contracts, struck down numerous attempts to regulate the workplace and protect collective bargaining.

    The hand of capital was further strengthened by an unlikely legal sword: the 14th Amendment, which states that “no state shall deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law.” The amendment was adopted during Reconstruction to protect recently emancipated slaves in a hostile South. But in the landmark case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad (1886), the Court, invoking the 14th Amendment, defined corporations as “persons” and ruled that California could not tax corporations differently than individuals. It followed that, as legal “persons,” corporations had First Amendment rights as well.

    Using this definition of corporations as persons, the Court proceeded to strike down a whole range of state regulations. In 1938, Justice Hugo Black noted that in the 50 years after Santa Clara, “less than one-half of I percent [of Supreme Court rulings that invoked the 14th Amendment] invoked it in protection of the Negro race, and more than 50 percent asked that its benefits be extended to corporations.”

    More at link

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporations/KnowEnemy_ITT.html

  119. I am pretty damned sure that Soros launched this wikileaks thing, for the reasons mentioned above. I do not think it was Obama. However, once Obama became aware of it, there were two ways he could go. He could move to suppress it and run the risk that this would hurt him with the left it was ever discovered. Or, he could let it come out and induce his juronlisters cabal to scream so loud that this was all her fault, let a national consensus form around that errant conclusion, and get rid of a rival for 2012. As in 2012, they believe they can get past the Republicans and I have no doubt that big media is already working on that angle–and by no doubt I mean no-doubt. The problem again is getting past Hillary. If I am correct and that was indeed their strategy then it relied on threee things in order to be successful. First, that when his minions culled through thousands of cables and blamed Hillary that they could drive that narrative. Second, that Hillary would be hounded off the stage by the media as they did in 2008. And third, that his lack of preemptive action would pass unnoticed. What he did not anticipate was that Hillary would seize the initiative as she has. Second, that people smarter than Goodwin would realize that the lack of preemptive action would not come back to haunt him. And third, that when Republicans take over the House and investigations begin as surely they will, inevitably questions will be asked about what did he know, when did he know it, and why did he fail to take appropriate action to protect the nation. In sum, not only does he look weak and indecisive, he has become a prisoner of his own tactics. Frankly, it is a bit puzzling to me that Axelrod did not point this out to him. He is the only one who can talk sense into this sociopath once he gets a mind to do something stupid which becomes over time a self inflicted wound.

  120. The mid day Fox show did a long hit piece on Hillary today……saying that thie wikileaks scandal shows that the real Hilllary is still there…exposed…..the corrupt manipulative Hillary….I turned it off. Nothing to watch anymore.

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