WikiLeaks Wiki Wacky – The Case For Leaks

We’re doing our best to get furious about the WikiLeaks situation. We’ve tried everything including yanking sleeves and eating peppers to see if that gets us riled. But we keep coming back to some very basic questions such as “Why is this crap secret?” and “Is any of this crap secret?

We do understand that the WikiLeaks operation is an operation wholly dedicated to hatred of America. For all the high-minded verbiage coming from WikiLeaks the entire purpose of the organization is to hurt the United States. What WikiLeaks seeks to do is sabotage, if not destroy, American diplomacy.

LegalInsurrection makes the case against WikiLeaks:

“There have been many comparisons of Barack Obama to Jimmy Carter, focused on the economy. But the continuing leak of documents by Wikileaks has become for Obama what the Iranian hostage crisis was to Carter.

The Wikileaks folks trot the globe with impunity and funnel documents to the press at will, for the purpose of damaging U.S. relations with other countries, our war efforts, and our intelligence capability. And we do almost nothing about it.

Whether or not someone gets killed as a direct result of a Wikileaks disclosure, the damage to our country is deep, as allies and sources among enemies will stop cooperating with us for fear of exposure, our diplomats will be hesitant to speak frankly with headquarters, and our intelligence on al-Qaeda and others will be compromised.

We are the laughingstock of the world, an impotent superpower whose response to those who aid our enemies is to write a letter asking them not to do it.”

That might or might not be true. But we’re not convinced. As always in our analysis we go back to first principles and ask “what is good for the American people and the American system of government?” Our answer is that the American people deserve as much information as a sovereign people need in order to have a government of, by, and for, the people. Our answer is that American governments come and go but that the American system of government is what matters. In our system of government the American people are sovereign.

The American people elect American governments but over the centuries the American government often thinks more of its self-preservation and its benefits than what is good for the people. Secrecy is adored by governments which prefer to act with impunity and as little oversight as possible. Governments perpetuate secrecy and claim it is done to carry on the people’s business but too often the real purpose of the secrecy is convenience and ease – not to mention a way to avoid scrutiny. The American people are the rulers and government officials but the servants of the people.

As regards the “revelations” in the latest WikiLeaks document dump we do have to ask “Why is this material secret?” and “Is this material really secret?

Is it really a secret and should it be a secret that many Arab governments say one thing in public and say something else in private? Is it really a secret that there are a lot of stupid officials, a lot of corrupt officials, in countries all over the world? Are the names of the stupid and/or corrupt officials really unknown? The answer is that the only ones purposely kept out of the information loop and deprived of hard information are the ones that really matter – the American people.

Should the American people know the full complexity of the world around us? Perhaps if American had been better informed they would not have tolerated a boob in the White House, planted there by people like Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.

Should the American people know and what is the cost of making that information available? In every instance of a “WikiLeak” we have read it appears that the American people should have the information and that the cost is minimal and at worse merely embarrassing.

For instance, should Americans know that “President Obama cancelled anti-missile shield plans in Poland and the Czech Republic to get Russia support for UN sanctions against Iran“? We certainly do think that this is something of consequence about which the American people should be informed and not allow Obama the Boob to decide by himself on this issue without high levels of scrutiny.

Should Americans know that Barack Obama boobed about Israel policy and Hamas/Palestinian interests although secretly (again, isn’t this an open secret that just about everyone knows?) Arab governments wanted an attack on – Iran? “Cut off the head of the snake” said the Saudi government. “The King, Foreign Minister, Prince Muqrin, and Prince Nayif all agreed that the Kingdom needs to cooperate with the US on resisting and rolling back Iranian influence and subversion in Iraq.

Isn’t it better to have the double dealing of Arab states exposed rather than protected? Is it better for states like Iran to be confronted publicly with the consequences of their rogue policies or to feel comforted by the cowardice of their neighbors?

In a completely unrelated development (for fools who can’t see what is right in front of their noses) there were non diplomatic actions in Iran today that were actually secret, actually consequential – not a WikiLeak:

Two separate explosions killed a nuclear scientist and injured another in the Iranian capital Monday morning, official news outlets reported.

Both scholars’ wives and a driver were also injured in the attacks, according to the news agencies. The slain scientist, Majid Shahriari, was a member of the nuclear engineering team at the Shahid Behesti university in Tehran, according to the official Islamic Republic News Agency, or IRNA.”



If the WikiLeaks had emerged before this non-diplomatic activity in Teheran then a stronger case can be made for suppression. But from what we can tell, there are no real secrets and nothing that should be a secret thus far revealed by the America haters at WikiLeaks.

Should Americans know that Israel comes out smelling like a rose? We think so.

Should Americans know that the American government believes Iran has missiles obtained from North Korea that can “strike at Western European capitals”? Is this why so many governments in Europe are afraid to support Israel and tell the truth in public about Iran? We think so. Let the information flow.

“WikiLeaks claimed that the documents show the extent of United States spying on its allies and the United Nations; overlooking or accepting corruption and human rights abuse in friendly states; doing backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries; and lobbying for American corporations. [snip]

The cache of a quarter-million U.S. diplomatic cables were obtained in turn by the Times, Der Spiegel in Germany, The Guardian in Britain, Le Monde in France and El País in Spain. The cables constitute the third bundle of classified material involving the United States released by WikiLeaks to selected news media in the past six months.

The cables, most of them from the past three years, reportedly reveal the Obama administration’s communications and discussions over foreign crises. Among startling revelations, The Guardian disclosed that Arab leaders privately urged an air strike on Iran and that American officials have been ordered to spy on the United Nations leadership.[snip]

Among disclosures that could potentially cause a problem for Washington, according to The Guardian, are fears in Washington and London over Pakistan’s nuclear program; suspected links between the Russian government and organized crime; criticism of British military operations in Afghanistan; and claims of inappropriate behavior by a British royal family member.

The Times cited “gaming out an eventual collapse of North Korea: American and South Korean officials have discussed the prospects for a unified Korea, should the North’s economic troubles and political transition lead the state to implode. The South Koreans even considered commercial inducements to China, according to the American ambassador to Seoul. She told Washington in February that South Korean officials believe that the right business deals would ‘help salve’ China’s ‘concerns about living with a reunified Korea’ that is in a ‘benign alliance’ with the United States.”

The Times also cited “suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: When Afghanistan’s vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money ‘a significant amount’ that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud, ‘was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money’s origin or destination.’ (Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)”

Spying at the U.N. Imagine that. Anyone ever seen the film North By Northwest? Any diplomat that believes some silly treaty or agreement not to spy means they are not spied upon is a dolt. $52 million cash in a suitcase? Corruption in Afghanistan? Corruption in Russia? These are hardly secrets.

Hillary Clinton today appropriately denounced WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks is a lying, America hating organization, even though WikiLeaks officials cloak their words with high minded principles. WikiLeaks is not heroic or acting “on principle” in any way. Ditto American Big Media which has so many hypocrisies related to this WikiLeaks story we won’t catalog them today.

Bradley Manning, the gay soldier who leaked millions of documents to WikiLeaks, has not done gay people a favor. It won’t be long before the argument is made against gays in the military with Private Manning as Exhibit A of why “they” can’t be trusted. Out of three million men and women with access to this information it was Private Manning who decided to sneak the information out under the guise of Lady Gaga music. Private Manning, gay Private Manning, will eventually be a poster boy on rat poison bottles and for those who hate gay people.

Why Private Manning along with three million others had potential access to all this information that is now bemoaned as “damaging” will someday have to be answered.

Questions that the American public should demand answers to are many:

“• How the hacker attacks which forced Google to quit China in January were orchestrated by a senior member of the Politburo who typed his own name into the global version of the search engine and found articles criticising him personally.

• Allegations that Russia and its intelligence agencies are using mafia bosses to carry out criminal operations, with one cable reporting that the relationship is so close that the country has become a “virtual mafia state“.

• The extraordinarily close relationship between Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, which is causing intense US suspicion. Cables detail allegations of “lavish gifts”, lucrative energy contracts and the use by Berlusconi of a “shadowy” Russian-speaking Italiango-between.

• Devastating criticism of the UK’s military operations in Afghanistan by US commanders, the Afghan president and local officials in Helmand. The dispatches reveal particular contempt for the failure to impose security around Sangin – the town which has claimed more British lives than any other in the country. [snip]

The cables contain specific allegations of corruption, as well as harsh criticism by US embassy staff of their host governments, from Caribbean islands to China and Russia. The material includes a reference to Putin as an “alpha-dog” and Hamid Karzai as being “driven by paranoia”, while Angela Merkel allegedly “avoids risk and is rarely creative”. There is also a comparison between Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Adolf Hitler.

The cables names Saudi donors as the biggest financiers of terror groups, and provide an extraordinarily detailed account of an agreement between Washington and Yemen to cover up the use of US planes to bomb al-Qaida targets.”

Saudi donors financing terror groups – what a shock! WikiLeaks sought to hurt America and American diplomacy. Instead, WikiLeaks might unwittingly help to make America stronger.

The better informed the American people are, the better decisions the American people might make. That was the theory the Founders had when they protected the press and embedded those protections in the United States Constitution. Sadly, the founders’ vision and press protection is sorely tested by the incompetent weasels we call Big Media.

Information will flow. If Big Media does not provide the information, other sources will develop that will provide the information. In this case the information came from America hating WikiLeaks.

If WikiLeaks had integrity we would see a flood of information from the diplomatic cables of other countries. But WikiLeaks is first and foremost an enemy of the United States – however sometimes your enemies can be your very best friends.

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217 thoughts on “WikiLeaks Wiki Wacky – The Case For Leaks

  1. No wonder they get pissed with him…….

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/29/obama_surprised_european_governments_with_major_missile_defense_announcement

    Obama surprised European governments with major missile defense announcement

    European governments were told about the Barack Obama administration’s decision to drastically alter U.S. plans for ballistic missile defense in Europe only 25 minutes before the official announcement, according to a tranche of leaked diplomatic cables released on Sunday by the self-described whistleblower website WikiLeaks. This detail is the latest piece of evidence that the administration botched its September 2009 rollout of the policy change.

    “The White House is expected to announce a Presidential decision at approximately 9:55 a.m. (Washington, D.C.) on September 17 regarding a U.S. European-based BMD adaptive regional architecture, which is significantly different from the Bush Administration’s plan to deploy 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland and a BMD tracking radar in the Czech Republic,” read a diplomatic cable sent that day from Foggy Bottom to several dozen diplomatic posts in Europe.

  2. Admin, bravo. you have really outdone yourself. This sentence you wrote below completely captures what I was thinking and feeling when listening to Hillary today (as well as when Hillary and Mccain were candidates)

    “Should the American people know the full complexity of the world around us? Perhaps if American had been better informed they would not have tolerated a boob in the White House, planted there by people like Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc. “

  3. The one that slipped by everyone is that the US has nuclear weapons sitting ready in 5 european countries.

    Daid anyone know about this:

    http://euobserver.com/9/31381

    The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and Turkey have US nuclear weapons situated on their soil, the Wikileaks whistleblower files have revealed.

    The four countries, along with Italy, had long been suspected of being home to a collection of American nuclear armaments, but neither the states nor Nato had ever officially confirmed or denied their presence.

    For the first time, the confidential files released on Sunday evening (28 November) have acknowledged what was until now only conjecture, upending decades of careful diplomatic ambiguity.

    In a confidential memo from US ambassador to Germany Philip Murphy, he casually mentions the possible withdrawal of the weapons from Germany and perhaps from the Netherlands and Belgium as well.

    The memo also confirms the presence of US nuclear weapons in Turkey.

  4. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-wikileaks-cables-prove-israel-is-right-on-iran-1.327653?localLinksEnabled=false

    A raft of controversial diplomatic secrets published by the WikiLeaks group has not damaged Israel and in fact strengthened its position, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday.[snip]

    “Israel has not been damaged at all by the WikiLeaks publications,” the prime minster told a group of editors in Tel Aviv. “The documents show many sources backing Israel’s assessments, particularly of Iran.”

    One result of the Wikileaks cables was to expose Arab fears of growing Iranian power, and it emerged that Saudi Arabia had asked the U.S. to launch a military strike to prevent the Iranians from gaining a nuclear bomb.

    Israel has for years warned of the danger from the Iranian nuclear program – which Iran claims is for peaceful purposes – to the entire region. These warnings had been vindicated, Netanyahu said.

    “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat,” Netanyahu said.

    “In reality leaders understand that that view is bankrupt. For the first time in history there is agreement that Iran is the threat,” he said.

    “If leaders start saying openly what they have long been saying behind closed doors, we can make a real breakthrough on the road to peace.”

    A 2009 American government cable released Sunday by WikiLeaks quotes Defense Minister Ehud Barak as telling visiting American officials that a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities was viable until the end of 2010, but after that “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage”.

    Leaked documents also show America in agreement with Israel’s assessment of Turkish premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan as an unreliable “fundamentalist” whose policies are governed by an irrational hatred of Israel.

  5. confloyd
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    If its Shepard Smith’s show on Fox making a big stink about this, you can ignore it. Shep is an idiot and a liberal pretending not to be.

    Even Bill Kristol and Charles K will appauld Hillary for doing what needs to be done to protect America and the American people.

  6. 1. This is a democracy and the people are sovereign.

    2. The sovereign is entitled to know what its government is doing.

    2. Big media is state media and is determined withhold relevant material from the American People.

    3. Big media put Obama in the White House, in exchange for access, influence and a tingle down its leg.

    4. Big media has no integrity; they will lie cheat and steal for Obama.

    5. Big media would love to pin this on Hillary but they cannot.

    6. Hillary is leading the charge on damage control, and Obama is in hiding.

    6. Obama cannot blame her for authorizing spying on UN since he authorized spying on Canada.

    7. Obama cannot evade responsibility because he sold our eastern European allies down the river on missile defense.

    8. It is not a bad thing that the hypocrisy of foreign leaders be exposed.

    9. It is not a bad thing that the threats we face in the world be disclosed.

    10. Wikileaks intended to hurt America but may well have strengthened it.

  7. moon — if you are still online, remember in one of your posts you mentioned how the NYT will not expose anything that hurts their messaih,

    well this is what NYT wrote when the climategate story was in the main headlines everywhere:

    “The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here.”

    but wikileak’s info, which were also “acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here.”” well, that’s A-OK!

  8. I remember as a kid my parents would revere the NYT, every weekend, we all would read all of it, and believed all of it. My how times have changed, to call it a “newspaper” is a joke, its nothing but a propoganda mouthpiece for the liberal radicals nuts.

  9. The ultimate wet job. The Iranian scientist killed today was the Iranian expert on Stuxnet. Whoever planned this deserves some type of award.

    http://www.debka.com/article/20406/

    Prof. Majid Shahriari, who died when his car was attacked in North Tehran Monday, Nov. 29, headed the team Iran established for combating the Stuxnet virus rampaging through its nuclear and military networks. His wife was injured. The scientist’s death deals a major blow to Iran’s herculean efforts to purge its nuclear and military control systems of the destructive worm since it went on the offensive six months ago. Only this month, Stuxnet shut down nuclear enrichment at Natanz for six days from Nov. 16-22 and curtailed an important air defense exercise. [snip]

    Tehran’s official account of the attacks is only half-correct, are sources report. There were indeed two motorcycle teams of two riders each who shadowed the scientists’ vehicles on their way to their laboratories and offices at Beheshti Basij Forces University in North Teheran early Monday. It was initially reported that the motorcyclists sped past them, attached explosives to the targeted Peugeots and were gone before they exploded.

    However, the first photos of the scientists’ vehicles showed them to be riddled with bullet holes rather than explosive damage, meaning they were hit by drive-by shooters.

    It is important to note that the attacks took place in the most secure district of Tehran, where the top-secret labs serving Iran’s nuclear facilities are located. They must therefore have been set up after exhaustive and detailed surveillance.

    debkafile reported earlier: The attacks occurred at 7.45 a.m. Iranian time, less than 12 hours after the WikiLeaks organization uncovered US diplomatic cables attesting to a proposal by Mossad director Meir Dagan to overthrow the Islamic regime as one of the ways of terminating its nuclear program. He proposed enlisting oppressed Iranian minority groups for the task, like the Baluchis and their liberation movement, Jundallah.

    Our intelligence sources note that this was the fifth attack in two years on Iranian nuclear scientists in Tehran. None of the perpetrators were ever apprehended. Some sources suggest that the latest double hit may have been the work of Jundallah, which recently began targeting nuclear scientists serving the hated regime and which two months ago reported abducting a scientist employed at the Isfahan nuclear facility.

    Tehran played down that incident claiming the kidnapped man was a driver. But last week he appeared on the Saudi TV station Al Arabiya and described his nuclear work.

  10. as it turns out, the NYT did not get access to the wikileak, it was given to them by the Guardian newspaper in the UK. The NYT was frozen out, they were given it by luck in helping the UK paper manage the research.

  11. Connie: that ulterman article is spot on. I was too dismissive of it initially. After a close read it looks to be pretty dammed accurate. And that is why this wikileakes is not as bad as first reported. Big media cannot control what they cannot control. Now, this article needs to get into the right hands–like Rush, Beck and some of the less obvious sources. Quickly. Can you do the honors? The American people–left right and center need to understand how their democracy is being stolen out from under their naive and unsuspecting eyes.

  12. Wbboei, the info was previously posted in July of this year in a round up of e-mails between liberal reporters and bloggers who went on the offensive to counter the Wright stories.

    I think WI is real, but I think this stuff is overplayed right now and that Ulsterman is too stupid to do it. He was too dumb to know what Broadway Barry referenced and has no mind for this stuff. B Merry has better insights that Ulsterman by far. Plus, she can actually read and then comprehend what she has read. I highly suspect he cannot and must be spoon fed everything.

  13. Moving full bore to contain the damage from the latest WikiLeaks document dump, the Obama White House on Monday ordered a top-down review on safeguarding classified data while Attorney General Eric Holder announced a criminal investigation into the website –Associated Press
    ________________________

    Give me a fucking break. Why did Obama do nothing BEFORE the document dump other than send a letter asking them please not to? Maybe this headline, which originated in the White House, to mislead the public into believing that they have things in hand, is their idea of a joke. Pathetic.

  14. OkieAtty
    November 29th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
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    Hi Okie–is brenda up on this? This business of using the media to get the other party to nominate the candidate he wants to run against is bad stuff. I think it needs to be elevated to the highest level of public awareness. How we do that is worth some serious thought. My first instinct is to go to the sources indicated. Morris as well. Also, maybe some of the left wing sites like Firedog Lake. Any thoughts on how to derail this assault on our democracy?

  15. Holy shit wikileaks has the banks next.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/exclusive-wikileaks-will-unveil-major-bank-scandal/

    First WikiLeaks spilled the guts of government. Next up: The private sector, starting with one major American bank.

    In an exclusive interview earlier this month, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told Forbes that his whistleblower site will release tens of thousands of documents from a major U.S. financial firm in early 2011. Assange wouldn’t say exactly what date, what bank, or what documents, but he compared the coming release to the emails that emerged in the Enron trial, a comprehensive look at a corporation’s bad behavior.

    “It will give a true and representative insight into how banks behave at the executive level in a way that will stimulate investigations and reforms, I presume,” he told me.

  16. Wbboei,

    They were too busy at the DOJ prior to midterms holding up the Broadway Bank report and shredding Black Panther case related docs.

  17. I just heard on Beck’s show that the new “Food Safety” bill they are voting on tonight, I’ve read parts of it… complete BS. Well the company that will give sole advisory to the FDA, who will now be able to recall products unilaterally, is a company called the “Monsanto” Company(sp?).

    Guess where the FDA chief used to work? Monsanto Company
    Guess who is the second highest stakeholder in this company…. ??

    Soros.

    so first the TSA, now the FDA, what else is this America-hating far radical lefty going to do to profit off of Americans?

  18. “First WikiLeaks spilled the guts of government. Next up: The private sector, starting with one major American bank.”

    This Soros backed Asshole is just throwing grenades left and right, this isn’t revealing anything; just creating chaos everywhere… if the US indeed does have the capability to shut down his websites, it needs to do so and pronto.

  19. Wbboei- regarding B, not sure. Have not spoken to her in about 5 months- not since I called her with a pal re: a member of BO’s security detail and things s/he overheard. When that person was unwilling to go on the record or deep background due to safety concerns, it became a non-issue. That was the last contact other than an occasional post at her site.

    As for your concerns about the Fourth Estate, they are well-founded but waaaaayy too late. The advent of the 24 hour news cycle and our cultural obsession with celebrity has rendered the whole system impotent as it is riddled with either sycophants or sociopaths. With some folks like Beck, Tweety, Bill O and Ogerman, I sometimes ponder if the two can exist in the same person despite what the DSM IV says…and as for any Left sites helping spotlight this axis of evil, to quote Tony Soprano, “fuhgeddaboudit.” The Fifth Estate has power, but it is scattershot and can only be magnified by the Fourth. Unless a major media group like ABC takes this on, which they will not as news divisions are now money makers, this story is DOA. Even with a congressional investigation…..now wouldn’t it be fun to revoke their press credentials and other perks over this shit? They could even lose their 1A rights in court if they are found to be a PR arm of a campaign, right????

  20. tim:

    you can access these links for more info- I posted them a few days ago but were not relevant to anyone at that point. They are now!

    These are all Soros initiatives-

    and download the pdf outlining the 30 Executive Orders Obama will be signing

    There are more pending and critical socialist agendas that need to be added to the soup.

    (1) Obama’s benefactor, George Soros who wants to destroy America, has reared his ugly head:

    THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT

    Proposing 30 executive actions

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

    (2)

    S. 510 the

    “Food Modernization Safety Act”
    Senate bill S 510 vote imminent – procedural vote passes 74-25

    At OpenCongress

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s510/show

    Voting after Thanksgiving to control our food.

    (3) Agenda 21 and ICLEI

    ICLEI is the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, or Local Governments for Sustainability and UN accredited Non Governmental Organization (NGO) that implements the Action Plan of Agenda. (taking control of states and municipal governments)

    http://www.freedomadvocates.org/articles/sustainable_development/kick_iclei_out!_20100410407/

    * Cities pay dues in order to obtain direction from ICLEI in establishing local policy and law.

    This is a violation of the Constitution, Article 1, Section 10: “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance or Confederation…”
    ______________________

    Who will STOP this manical man from turning America into a socialist state?

  21. my intial post is in moderation… change out the links to view them.

    tim:

    you can access these links for more info- I posted them a few days ago but were not relevant to anyone at that point. They are now!

    These are all Soros initiatives-

    and download the pdf outlining the 30 Executive Orders Obama will be signing

    There are more pending and critical socialist agendas that need to be added to the soup.

    (1) Obama’s benefactor, George Soros who wants to destroy America, has reared his ugly head:

    THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT

    Proposing 30 executive actions

    h… w.. americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

    (2)

    S. 510 the

    “Food Modernization Safety Act”
    Senate bill S 510 vote imminent – procedural vote passes 74-25

    At OpenCongress

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s510/show

    Voting after Thanksgiving to control our food.

    (3) Agenda 21 and ICLEI

    ICLEI is the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, or Local Governments for Sustainability and UN accredited Non Governmental Organization (NGO) that implements the Action Plan of Agenda. (taking control of states and municipal governments)

    h… w… freedomadvocates.org/articles/sustainable_development/kick_iclei_out!_20100410407/

    * Cities pay dues in order to obtain direction from ICLEI in establishing local policy and law.

    This is a violation of the Constitution, Article 1, Section 10: “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance or Confederation…”
    ______________________

    Who will STOP this manical man from turning America into a socialist state?

  22. Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Thank you!! I’m forwarding that link to everyone I know. I had not even heard about this food bill, but in my small business I have some contact with local farmers, and they were the ones who told me how awful this bill is and how much harm it will do to local farmers.

  23. tim
    November 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Please do, tim- Mosanto is going to outlaw heirloom seed. Any seed planted by a farmer will have to come from them. Monsanto will be the ogre overviewing what the farmer plants i.e. Monsanto’s genetically modified seed… (containing a pesticide gene..(cancer causing?) outlawed in many countries)

  24. Remember how we all wondered how he could lie with such impunity and get away with it, and the media never called it.

    Also I am beginning to think he was cocky in toying with the public about 57 states. I could very well see him trying something like that knowing full well that the media would not call on him and even offer protection. He must have gone to bed laughing at all the morons, fools who still voted for him after such display. He made a mockery of the voters and they still don’t get it.

    As for SS, Hillary had it and he and his people got the idea from there to begin with. If she was going around campaigning with SS in tow then that picture had to negated. Most of us realized that then. To justify it more, they cooked up all the threat stories and if you remember, Admin has been pooh poohing those from day one.

  25. Remember also how his wife said in an interview how he could get shot just going to the corner store. The race card was played and played well.

  26. pm317
    November 29th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    Remember how we all wondered how he could lie with such impunity and get away with it, and the media never called it.

    Also I am beginning to think he was cocky in toying with the public about 57 states. I could very well see him trying something like that knowing full well that the media would not call on him and even offer protection. He must have gone to bed laughing at all the morons, fools who still voted for him after such display. He made a mockery of the voters and they still don’t get it.
    ______________

    I don’t think he is going to bed laughing any more. He may have the press, but he doesn’t have the respect he thought was automatically his when he became President. People are catching on that there really is nothing there when you examine him up close.

  27. pm317….that was despicable, anyone could get fucking shot going to the corner store these days, he aint special and when exactly did he last walk to a corner store, its below his pay grade.

  28. Attorney General Holder heads to Zurich, Switzerland tomorrow to lobby to bring the World Cup to the U.S. in 2022.

    Yeah that’ll seal the deal.

  29. and the fallout continues

    Prince Hassan of Jordan: “The idea that the US is a force for unalloyed good has been exploded by Wikileaks revelations”

  30. Am I translating this right……

    Chávez: “Hillary Clinton se siente superior a Obama” (wikileaks)

    Chavez said Hillary thinks she’s superior to Obama.

    Well he would be right.

  31. So obama the apologist will probably continue to criticize the country he represents as well as give away the kitchen sink now.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if his undying adoration of everything Muslim goes even further now.

    The one thing he won’t do is stand tall as a leader. In his case “the buck”
    doesn’t ever stop with him.

  32. “Chavez said Hillary thinks she’s superior to Obama.”

    Well she [Hillary] was so in the primaries and continues be so present day. And so was Mccain.

  33. so what we see is that Waffles will sell out America to advance himself and his fairytale agenda. We saw it with the betrayal he did to Poland and on the same freaking day that Russia invaded Poland, and now this is irrefutable proof that this asshole Mr.Waffles knew what he was doing, selling out an American ally. And now we see it with the START program, if Senator Kyle says America is getting the raw end of the deal, I trust Kyle on this.

  34. This is not the WH insider talking. It is Noel Sheppard yesterday morning (time stamp of the article 12:41, Ulsterman put up his post today), link below. We don’t need the WH insider to tell us what we know already.

    On the other hand, maybe there’s something entirely more nefarious at play?

    Consider what Charles Krauthammer said Friday evening about the media’s obsession with Palin. Is it possible these folks have concluded as so many of them profess that the White House hopes Palin is the Republican presidential nominee because she in their view would be the easiest to beat?

    Are Obama-loving press members trying to orchestrate an outcome by giving an abundance of attention to the person they hope Obama will face in November 2012?

    This certainly wouldn’t be the first time the media did such a thing.

    On the contrary, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) got far more favorable press in 2008 than any of the clearly more conservative Republican presidential candidates including Governors Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. Needless to say this changed once McCain had been nominated and their job was done.

    Isn’t it therefore likely this very same press will do everything in their power to “nominate” Obama’s next contender?

    Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/11/28/chris-matthews-flatteringly-compares-sarah-palin-bill-clinton#ixzz16iw5uTb9

  35. “Needless to say this changed once McCain had been nominated and their job was done.”

    This article nailed it. As soon as Mccain was nominated, what was the first thing done?
    The NYT FRONT PAGE article on some non-affair article with a lobbyist, a front page article and a front page photo. It took Mccain completely off his message over this nonstory.

  36. Great article Admin. Israel comes out smelling like roses…and how about Kerry who g-d forbide could be our next SOS if Hillary leaves after the first term(assuming Bambi is re-elected).

  37. confloyd

    Fox is going to make hay out of Hillary’s request for the spying by her staff! It’s just ridiculous!
    ———–

    Yup, Morris the Hillary Hater just went on an all out rant on Hillary. He said she had her staff spy to blackmail those counterparts. He kept saying Hillary and her secret police, like she was a custom to doing back in the day. Said Hillary wasn’t collecting this info for a scrap book.

    *&^&%er!!

  38. Shadowfax
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    you posted just what I was going to post. I almost threw my remote when Morris was on his Hilary rant. What a twerp.

  39. …..One staffer was conspicuously overweight. The president, in an incident that Wolffe believes proves how caring the man is, took it upon himself to present the aide with a salad for lunch — “then listened to him protest that he could take care of his own health. ‘I love you, man,’ Obama said. ‘I want you to look after yourself. Eat the salad.’ ”

    I love you, man. Eat the salad. That is the Obama presidency in a plastic see-through clamshell. (Hold the ranch dressing!) The president loves us. He knows what’s best for us. We should bow to his superior wisdom…

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/how_the_nanny_president_sees_himself_Rz5QE1GoCFaiwCJvR9mrdP#ixzz16jIMZHmN

  40. I think if wikileaks is going to play this despicable game, they should play it fairly. In other words, just because other countries diplomatic files haven’t been leaked, it certainly doesn’t mean that they are squeaky clean.

    As far as that toad Morris is concerned, he has to be the most slimy idiotic creep to ever grace the airwaves. So Hillary signed the order to spy on the U.N.? Obama had no say in this? She gets to do whatever the hell she wants?

    I don’t think so.

  41. “Rumor Confirmed: Obama Traded Missile Shield for Russian Help With Iran That Never Appeared”

    —————-

    Gosh and no other country has ever manipulated this way and that to get what they wanted.

  42. Krauthammer Urges Prosecution of WikiLeaks’ Journalistic Collaborators

    By Brent Baker | November 29, 2010 |

    The U.S. government “ought to speak about the enablers in the American journalistic community” who have cooperated with WikiLeaks, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer urged on Monday’s night’s Special Report on FNC, recommending that if you “collaborate” with WikiLeaks, then “we are going to look into possible prosecution.”

    Krauthammer, during the panel segment on the Monday, November 29 Special Report with Bret Baier on FNC:

    The real problem here is the helpless that it exposes the United States, the superpower, all its information is out there essentially with everybody enjoying impunity. I think what she [Hillary Clinton] should have said is nothing about the leaks themselves, simply say we’re going to ask the military justice and the Justice Department to try to prosecute the alleged leaker, the alleged guy who stole this on treason, not just on mishandling –but on treason and to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law, up to and including execution if tjat is warranted.

    Secondly, WikiLeaks. We should not have our Attorney General saying “oh to the extent ‘a’” or “to the extent if we find ‘a,’” This stuff has been leaked months and months earlier. This guy is the leaker. Why haven’t we issued arrest warrants for him and extradition requests?

    And lastly, I think they ought to speak about the enablers in the American journalistic community. To say that if you are unlike CNN and Wall Street Journal, who apparently turned down collaboration with WikiLeaks, and you collaborate, we are going to look into possible prosecution.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2010/11/29/krauthammer-urges-prosecution-wikileaks-journalistic-collaborators

  43. Just listening to the vile Toe Suck Fairy on Hannity. Hillary must have really hurt his poor little feelings for him to react with such hate. He just can’t seem to get off of it all these many years later.

    Ah, he is saying that Hillary found out stuff to use on others…yes indeed, guess she found out about Dickie’s actions and inclinations.

    Does anyone remember when many of Dick Morris’ predictions actually happened?

  44. tim

    you posted just what I was going to post. I almost threw my remote when Morris was on his Hilary rant. What a twerp.
    ———
    Yes, I felt the same way, and Morris saying he has given Hillary credit for other things she has been doing than this. So for him, his stinking opinion is equal to all her hard work. What an Ahole he is.

    I also went back to the last thread and read the latest Insider. I find it really funny that they are now claiming that they helped McCain become elected.
    First, I have always thought that McCain lost when who ever pulled the money out of the stock market, and Barry was declared the best candidate because he WENT BACK TO CAMPAIGNING! I thought the election was fixed…besides the corruption in the primary, anyone with half their brain would realize that a ‘weak’ candidate was better to go up against than an intelligent, competent fighter. No brain-er.
    I was also shocked at how McCain refused to fight or say anything against Barry. The whole election stunk of underbelly corruption.

  45. wbboei
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I believe prosecutors would be within their rights to seek the death penalty against the young soldier who hacked this information. The charge would be espionage.
    ———————-
    JanH
    November 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Krauthammer Urges Prosecution of WikiLeaks’ Journalistic Collaborators

    I think what she [Hillary Clinton] should have said is nothing about the leaks themselves, simply say we’re going to ask the military justice and the Justice Department to try to prosecute the alleged leaker, the alleged guy who stole this on treason, not just on mishandling –but on treason and to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law, up to and including execution if that is warranted

  46. This was posted by the Hillbuzz boys, looks like the GOP sees this connection too…

    Michele Bachmanm calls for full federal investigation of fraudulent Pigford Black Reparations claims
    Posted by kevindujan01 under Uncategorized | Tags: fraudulent reparations claims, Michele Bachmann, Pigford Black Reparations |
    [2] Comments

    http://biggovernment.com/mbachmann/2010/11/29/congress-should-investigate-pigford-ii-claims-before-funding-them/

    There are only 18,000 black farmers alive.

    84,000 black people applied for free “Obama Money” under Pigford.

    Something is not right here.

    And that something leads all the way to the White House.

  47. Another PigGate post from Hillbuzz…

    Pigford Black Reparations payments heading to House for finalization

    http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/11/29/ag-secy-vilsacks-legacy-pigford-ii-settlement-almost-finalized/

    The Cocktail Party GOP is too afraid of being called RAAACISTS for speaking the truth on this…but the Pigford black farmers scam is really black reparations.

    Obama is behind all of this, with the Race Industry in tow.

    What it amounts to is every black.person in America getting payments of $57,000 every time another “Pigford” settlement loots the Treasury.

    All a black person has to do is say he or she wanted to be a black farmer in the 80s and 90s but the USDA refused to give them an application for a farm loan.

    The USDA deliberately did not keep any records of who asked for these applications.

    If you are black, the Obama administration and Democrats will just accept your word that you would have become a black farmer if only you had the chance.

    So, a tax free $57,000 reparations payment is yours.

    This is the “Obama money” that blacks were promised if they abandoned the Clintons and supported Obama instead, starting in the South Carolina Democrat primary.

    Pigford, once exposed, will be Obama’s Watergate and the end of the Democrat Party as we know it.

    Watch Andrew Breitbart, Michele Bachmann, Peter King, and Darryl Issa on this.

    Those names will become as famous as Woodward and Bernstein’s were in the 70s.

  48. I thought the election was fixed…besides the corruption in the primary, anyone with half their brain would realize that a ‘weak’ candidate was better to go up against than an intelligent, competent fighter. No brain-er.
    I was also shocked at how McCain refused to fight or say anything against Barry.
    ———————————–
    From the early to mid 90s McCain was groomed by the New York Times to be a presidential candidate. I had a dinner for McConnell during that time period and he told me that. At that time, McCain was pushing campaign finance reform and McConnell was planning on going into court to defeat it on the theory that campaign contributions are the same as speech under the first amendment which is to say they are protected. His argument to me was if you take away the right of people to contribute to the candidate of their choice, or place limits upon it, then the New York Times will determine who the candidates are. Ironically, the law McCain was pushing got hijacked by Soros with the 527 exemption, and you ended up with the worst of all worlds which was to say greater control of elections by big money than ever and control by the New York Times, as illustrated by the insiders comments by Ulsterman. You note that McCain refused to fight or say anything against Barry. In fact, it was even worse. He refused to stick up for his friend Hillary when one of his campaign contributors called her a bitch, but when one of his supporters in Ohio spoke out about Obama he cut him off at the knees. I think the fix was in, and I absolutely believe he was the candidate big media selected to run against Obama. I also believe big media and the Obama campaign had the whammy on McCain on two fronts: first, his wife on matters which never came out. The New York Times was holding that one over his head. Second, Mc Cain made quite a deal about his being a hero, and told a group of fundamentalists in my state a story about how while he was imprisoned at the Hanoi Hilton he was hung up every night and a Viet Namese guard would come in and cut him down at dusk and hang him back up at dawn so he could get a sound nights sleep. He never knew why until that guard approached him in the prison yard and when nobody was looking he drew the sign of the cross in the dirt. Reportedly, the Obama campaign had a different guard stashed away someplace who told a very different story about his time in captivity. Now whether that was true or not I cannot say, but that was reportedly the threat that kept him in line. After they lost the election, the McCain people blamed it on the stock market crash, but I firmly believe it was rigged beyond that. I never knew McCain but I used to see his dad at the old Warden field near Hospital Point at Annapolis while we were drilling. He was the Admiral in charge of the 6th fleet in Europe at that time, and I believe he was an aviator. John was pathetic in the first two debates, but he won the third debate. I sent him one of Admin’s blogs about Obama, and they sent me back a thank you note saying it really helped them win that night–they followed the script. As Wolfman Jack used to say if I am lyin’ I am dy’n/

  49. I wonder how long it was after Obama found out that a big bank was Assauge’s next target that he decided he better shut wikileaks down???

    You should know as long as he was only going to demonize Hillary, it was fine….but we can’t have wikileaks go after a dirty bank.

    It’s all a crock!

  50. I have always thought that McCain lost when who ever pulled the money out of the stock market,

    ========================

    Bill Clinton said when the bank crash happened in fall of 2008, McCain’s chances went from 1 in 5 to 1 in 35, iirc.

  51. wbb

    Thanks for more info on McCain, seemed like he picked an outspoken woman as his VP and didn’t show much courage in the campaign…was really weird to me. Cindy is prochoice, is that what you mean about her?

    Confloyd – Barry is the crock in Chief.

  52. wbboei,
    I remember that McCain did not defend his friend Hillary to his supporter and that was the day I lost respect for him…I did vote for him….but I always told myself that I really voted for Palin and her running mate!

    BTW, I was talking to my Phillipino friend about the leaks, and she just plain asked me “What the heck has happened to America”? I laughed and said “I know lots of people who wished they knew the REAL answer to that question”. It is true, this is just an unbelieveable time. Hillary looked very serious today…very, very serious!

  53. I got this statement from UK Guardian. It plainly states that Condeleeza Rice and Hillary both signed off on the spying…but Hillary seems to be getting all the flack over it.
    ——————————-

    Classified “human intelligence directives” issued in the name of Clinton or her predecessor, Condoleezza Rice, instruct officials to gather information on military installations, weapons markings, vehicle details of political leaders as well as iris scans, fingerprints and DNA.

  54. Shadowfax,
    I think he was talking about her prescription drug habit which she kicked! What I’d like to know is what Obama is holding over Vilisak to get him to do the reparations???

  55. is that what you mean about her?
    ————————-
    No. There were two stories as I recall. One related to drug dependency, and that was the one which the New York Times was hounding him on, that prompted his attorney to write a letter requesting they back off as a matter of civility and fair play, which naturally they refused to do because the Schulzburg-Occs family and related New York interests had settled on Obama so it was time to destroy the Republican they had previously nurtured. The other story related to the possibly shady source of her family money which was in the beer distributorship business. I cannot confirm or deny this but those two stories were in the ether and I think we talked about the first story here on this blog at the time. I think his attorney was with O’Melveny and Meyers which is a well respected Los Angeles firm.

  56. wbboei,
    It seems to me that Obama has a wealth of information on everyone….how did he get it…thru Axelrod or where. I think he blackmailed his way in with the media help. I’d really like to know how the media was so complicit. Were they paid off, were they threatened with their fcc license? James Clyburn daughter was instilled as head of the FCC for a reason and we have yet to see what she has to do for the administration. I believe she has something she must do and we’ll find out soon enough.

  57. I sometimes think McCain was a sacrificial lamb,
    Follow the money.
    Who gets what from whom?
    I confess I am intrigued by Palin. From my vista it seems no one owns her. McCain never sent out the attack dogs on bambi. Why not? Issues raised during the dim primary were ignored. The RNC had him by his non existent balls and didn’t pounce on a thing.
    Sarah was tamed.
    She may be using the fluff, Twitter and facebook, to get out a message. but she is getting it out there!!
    Given a choice of waffles/Palin. I vote Palin. Gingrich/waffles I’d probably sit home.

  58. Chris Hedges keeps telling progressives this, but it never sinks in except for the few like Jane Hampsher at Fire Dog Lake. Obama is a brand and nothing more–a front man, a flim flam man, a bamboozler, everything under the sun except the one thing we need, which is a true leader who represents the American People. 2008 was not simply an electoral mistake, it was a mistake of cataclysmic proportions. He cites Professor Wolin at Yale who is one of the few voices in the country who has tapped into that is really going on. Professor Bracevitch at U Mass gets it and so did one of the great historians of the last century Charles Beard–we are no longer a republic . . . inverted totalitarianism and managed democracy.

    (From Wikipedia)

    Inverted totalitarianism is all politics all of the time but a politics largely untempered by the political. Party squabbles are occasionally on public display, and there is a frantic and continuous politics among factions of the party, interest groups, competing corporate powers, and rival media concerns. And there is, of course, the culminating moment of national elections when the attention of the nation is required to make a choice of personalities rather than a choice between alternatives. What is absent is the political, the commitment to finding where the common good lies amidst the welter of well-financed, highly organized, single-minded interests rabidly seeking governmental favors and overwhelming the practices of representative government and public administration by a sea of cash.[10]

    Wolin calls this form of democracy, which is sanitized of the political, managed democracy. Managed democracy is “a political form in which governments are legitimated by elections that they have learned to control”.[11] Under managed democracy, the electorate is prevented from having a significant impact on policies adopted by the state through the continuous employment of public relations techniques.

  59. Well, goodnight my sleeping meds are kicking in…..keep up the good work! Some way, some day, we will get Hillay where she belongs….1600 Pensylvania Blvd.!

  60. I’m really not taking sides on this Wikileaks business. It seems soem of their postings have had good results, some may have bad results.

    But here’s a quote worth thinking about:

    “The traditional media has become so toothless it is reduced to attacking Wikileaks for doing [the media’s] job properly.”

  61. Managed democracy is “a political form in which governments are legitimated by elections that they have learned to control”.[11] Under managed democracy, the electorate is prevented from having a significant impact on policies adopted by the state through the continuous employment of public relations techniques.

    ===============

    Right there’s a good reason for voting Tea Party!

  62. must-reading on current wikileaks
    h… w…salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/18/wikileaks/index.html

  63. Clinton heads to Asia amid WikiLeaks fervor
    November 30, 2010

    Her trip includes stops in Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic, Uzbekistan and Bahrain
    Regional security will be a key topic at summits she is attending

    Clinton says she plans to reassure her counterparts

    One leaked cable describes lavish lifestyles of Kazakh leaders

    (CNN) — As the publication of classified U.S. State Department cables by the WikiLeaks site continues to make headlines around the world, America’s top diplomat arrives in Asia Tuesday.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s four-day trip abroad includes stops in Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic, Uzbekistan and Bahrain.

    A regional security summit in Astana, Kazakhstan, is a key part of the trip.

    Clinton will lead the U.S. delegation at the Summit of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe — an organization which includes 56 countries from Europe, Central Asia and North America.

    She will also travel to the Middle East to deliver a speech on the role of the United States in regional security at the Manama Dialogue in Bahrain.

    But with leaked observations from American diplomats rippling around the world, Clinton told reporters Monday that she would also make a particular effort to connect with foreign officials on the trip.

    “We will be seeing dozens of my counterparts… I will continue the conversations that I have started with some in person and over the phone over the last days, and I will seek out others, because I want personally to impress upon them the importance that I place on the kind of open, productive discussions that we have had to date, and my intention to continue working closely with them,” she said.

    The latest release — which WikiLeaks says will eventually reach 250,000 pages — contains mostly State Department cables sent by American diplomats between the end of 1966 and February 2010. The release prompted widespread condemnation from U.S. officials, and a range of reaction from international governments.

    In Kazakhstan, Clinton is scheduled to meet with President Nursultan Nazarbayev and Foreign Minister Kanat Saudabayev — both of whom are mentioned in a cable purportedly written by U.S. Embassy staff and published by WikiLeaks about the “recreational habits of Kazakhstan’s leaders.”

    “Kazakhstan’s political elites appear to enjoy typical hobbies — such as travel, horseback riding, and skiing. Not surprisingly, however, they are able to indulge in their hobbies on a grand scale, whether flying Elton John to Kazakhstan for a concert or trading domestic property for a palace in the United Arab Emirates,” the cable says.

    It goes on to describe John performing at a birthday party for Nazarbayev’s son-in-law and says that singer Nelly Furtado reportedly performed at a birthday bash for his daughter. It also mentions Saudabayev’s skiing vacation in Europe with a Kazakhstani billionaire.

    Clinton expressed confidence that U.S. diplomatic efforts around the world will survive the leak of the documents.

    “I can tell you, in my conversations, at least one of my counterparts said to me, ‘Don’t worry about it; you should see what we say about you,'” she said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/30/asia.clinton.visit/

  64. Clinton is the lead troubleshooter for administration in WikiLeaks mess

    By Sam Youngman – 11/29/10

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton led an administration-wide effort Monday to limit the damage to national security from the leaking of thousands of sensitive diplomatic cables.

    The documents, published by WikiLeaks, included unvarnished opinions of foreign leaders and sensitive information about foreign policy, including revelations that Arab nations in the Middle East have expressed deep concerns to the U.S. about Iran becoming a nuclear power.

    Foreign capitals expressed angst and anger over their release, while on Capitol Hill, Republicans and Democrats alike criticized WikiLeaks and questioned how the documents could have fallen into the hands of that group. Soon-to-be Homeland Security Committee Chairman Pete King (R-N.Y.) suggested WikiLeaks should be labeled a terrorist organization, and he and Rep. Pete Hoekstra (Mich.),the ranking Republican on the Intelligence panel, both called for hearings.

    The diplomatic and political embarrassment created a tricky balancing act for the administration, which denounced WikiLeaks but sought to downplay how much damage might have been caused to both U.S. security and prestige.

    President Obama did not comment on the controversy during a lengthy press appearance announcing his proposal for a federal worker pay freeze. Instead, while the president avoided even a comment about WikiLeaks, Clinton was charged with reaching out to foreign leaders to assuage their concerns.

    Clinton’s work began even before the WikiLeaks documents were revealed on major newspaper websites Sunday.

    She said Monday that she had talked to several foreign leaders over the course of the last several days, and has stressed to them that “official foreign policy is not set through these messages, but here in Washington.”

    “Our policy is a matter of public record, as reflected in our statements and our actions around the world,” Clinton said in remarks at the State Department.

    While some foreign government officials publicly criticized the U.S. for the leaks, Clinton said one of her foreign counterparts told her: “ ‘Don’t worry about it. You should see what we say about you.’

    “So I think that this is well-understood in the diplomatic community as part of the give-and-take,” Clinton said. “And I would hope that we will be able to move beyond this and back to the business of working together on behalf of our common goals.”

    No one in the administration would confirm the legitimacy or accuracy of the stolen cables, but Clinton said the U.S. “strongly condemns” their release.

    At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs declined to specifically comment on any of the disclosures in the cables, but repeatedly called their leaking a criminal act.

    He did say that countries “throughout the world” are worried about Iran’s nuclear program.

    Gibbs said Obama was “not pleased” when he learned of the leaks last week. Gibbs’s refusal to describe Obama as outraged or furious underscored the administration’s attempts to tamp down the potential damage the leaks could cause.

    Since taking office, Obama has made forging new relationships with foreign leaders and restoring America’s standing in the international community some of his most important foreign policy priorities.

    “I am confident that the partnerships that the Obama administration has worked so hard to build will withstand this challenge,” Clinton said. “The president and I have made these partnerships a priority, and we are proud of the progress that they have helped achieve, and they will remain at the center of our efforts.”

    Republicans responded to the most recent leaks with outrage, almost universally calling for the leaker or leakers to be treated as traitors to the U.S.

    “It is critical that the perpetrator who betrayed his country be brought to justice for this deliberate treason that jeopardizes our national security,” said Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.), the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee who is retiring at the end of this Congress.

    Bond called for the committee to hear a full accounting of the “intelligence and diplomatic debacle and about what steps are being taken to ensure that a security breach of this magnitude never happens again.”

    The White House said it is considering all options to bring those responsible for the leaks to justice, while the administration continued to outline steps it has taken to prevent future leaks.

    This is the third massive batch of documents that WikiLeaks has posted online. The first two collections were sensitive documents related to the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

    “Obviously, there is an ongoing criminal investigation about the stealing of and the dissemination of sensitive and classified information,” Gibbs said. “Secondly, I know the administration … we are looking at a whole host of things, and I wouldn’t rule anything out.”

    Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday morning that his department would prosecute anyone found to be involved in the leaks.

    Obama’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) instructed all federal agencies to clamp down on classified information.

    “Any failure by agencies to safeguard classified information pursuant to relevant laws … is unacceptable and will not be tolerated,” Jack Lew, the director of the OMB, wrote in a memo posted Monday morning on the office’s website.

    Lew’s memo calls for each agency that handles classified information to establish “a security assessment team consisting of counterintelligence, security and information assurance experts to review the agency’s implementation of procedures for safeguarding classified information against improper disclosures.”

    Lew said OMB, the Information Security Oversight Office and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence will assist agencies in their review of how to better protect classified information.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/131051-clinton-is-lead-troubleshooter-

  65. Did anyone notice (if they had the stomach to watch) that Obama, who refused to answer anything about the WikiDump, comment on the security of our nation, or in any way give an indication that he was “not pleased” did, however, assure all Americans and the press that he would, indeed, continue to play basketball whenever he had the chance?

  66. “Food is no less a weapon than tanks, guns, and planes.” said Franklin D. Roosevelt.
    _______________________

    Latest update on Food Bill:

    Senate delays S 510 food safety bill vote until Tuesday

    (NaturalNews) Slammed by a barrage of phone calls and emails today that the mainstream media isn’t even reporting, the U.S. Senate today has decided to postpone their vote on S.510 — the Food Safety Modernization Act — until Tuesday morning.

    Internet reports that S.510 has already passed are incorrect. The final bill has not yet been voted on (only a motion to move forward was voted on).

    The Tester Amendment has been passed (see below for more details) which would exclude the smaller farm operations from the more onerous provisions of the bill.

    Still up for debate are two amendments to the bill from Sen. Tom Coburn, who is seeking to scale down the bill and make it smaller and less expensive. A second proposed amendment would end Congressional “earmarks” — a tool of financial corruption that lawmakers use to hand out government money to the corporations and special interest groups that got them elected in the first place. I watched a live C-SPAN video tonight of a pathetic-sounding Senator from Hawaii arguing that earmarks should stay in place because it gives Congress more power (seriously).

    The vote on the amendment that would repeal the 1099 IRS reporting requirement for small businesses failed, leaving America’s small business owners frantically looking for ways to move their businesses offshore before this outrageous new paperwork requirement kicks in by early 2011.

    It was virtually all Democrats, by the way, who voted to keep this outrageous 1099 law in place.

    h… w… senate.gov/legislative/L…

    It’s almost as if the Democratic Senators can’t wait to drive U.S. small business owners out of the country and destroy the U.S. economy in the process.

    On the S 510 bill itself, our hope now rests with Senator Tom Coburn’s amendments as well as the possibility that more Senators will reconsider their positions on this bill and come out tomorrow to oppose it.

    Other improvements put in place with the help of health freedom allies
    The Alliance for Natural Health (w… ANH-USA.org) has been working hard with many health freedom allies, including NaturalNews, to reduce the tyranny of the bill.

    From their announcement today:

    These are some of the changes that ANH-USA and allies have [achieved with] the Food Safety bill:

    Excluded excessive punishment

    Last week we learned that S. 510 would not include the obscene ten-year jail sentences for food and supplement manufacturers who violate complicated FDA rules. That draconian language was specifically designed to target supplement manufacturers while leaving pharmaceutical drug and medical device companies untouched.

    Resisted international harmonization of food and health supplement policy

    Together we worked to modify language that would have committed the US to harmonization of international food and supplement rules similar to those in Europe, where attempts are being made to regulate away natural health.

    Excluded small farmers from burdensome regulation

    Working with the natural health community, ANH-USA succeeded in winning inclusion of the Tester amendment with its protection of small farmers. ANH-USA and other organizations fought tirelessly to protect the bourgeoning local healthy food movement from unwarranted federal regulation, and from the processed food companies that are increasingly nervous about the new competition. Thirty processed food organizations like the American Frozen Food Institute and the Corn Refiners Association sent a letter to the Senate arguing that a local produce stand should face the same regulatory hurdles as their industrial-scale processed food operations.

    Mainstream media lies about S.510

    There’s no question that Senators’ offices today were hit with a barrage of phone calls and emails from people voicing their opposition to the bill. Not surprisingly, mainstream newspapers published articles strongly supporting S.510 — they’ve never seen a Big Brother expansion of power they didn’t like!

    We’ve also recently been reminded that mainstream media publishers will simply lie to their readers on important issues regarding freedom. For example, recent MSM reports about the TSA and the “National Opt Out Day” conveniently and deliberately leave out the fact that the TSA turned off their naked body scanner machines for the day, and that’s why no one had the opportunity to protest. (Funny how the big newspapers never bother to mention this all-important fact when covering the story. They just claim the protests were a failure because no one protested.)

    Sadly, it looks like S.510 is likely to pass, and that means Americans should get ready to endure yet another Gestapo agency (the FDA) running rampant over their food and seeds. As if there weren’t government agents taking away our rights already, now the FDA is going to be able to show up at farms and, at gunpoint, demand, “Show us your papers!”

    NaturalNews plans to publish the names of all the U.S. Senators who vote for this tyranny, and they will join our “Hall of Shame” of legislators who our founding fathers like Thomas Jefferson would have considered treasonous in their shameful betrayal of the rights of individual citizens and small farmers.

    Why we need to delineate the right to grow food in the next Bill of Rights

    This also reminds me to point out that after the U.S. collapses from total financial and moral bankruptcy — which seems to be getting closer by the day — we must all remember that in the next society, we need to add “The Right to Grow, Harvest and Exchange Our Own Food” into the next Bill of Rights. Because that’s exactly what’s being stripped away from the American people with the passage of S.510.

    Remember, too, that the FDA already took away your right to learn the truth about nutritional supplements and natural remedies. It has sought to destroy the natural products industry. Now it’s poised to take away your access to raw milk while burdening food producers with outrageous new paperwork requirements — all while ignoring the real causes of the food contaminations, which are actually caused by factory animal farms.

    The people who are in support of this bill — including several big-name food authors who should frankly know better — are selling out to the agricultural giants and aligning themselves with the dark powers in government who seek to destroy food freedom.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/030565_Food_Safety_S_510.html#ixzz16lxFucUf

  67. Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday morning that his department would prosecute anyone found to be involved in the leaks
    —————————–
    Unless they are black and support Obama like the New Black Panther Party. For them Holder is willing to make an exception.

  68. Youngman is a bot seeking to defend the Obama Administration.

    Obama’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) instructed all federal agencies to clamp down on classified information.

    Why did this happen on Obama’s watch?

  69. What a fucking surprise……….

    Breaking News : Senate rejects GOP bid to eliminate pet projects, which would have kept Senate from considering bills with earmarks…..8 GOP votes against earmark ban: Collins, Inhofe, Bennett UT, Lugar, Shelby, Cochran, Voinovich, Murkowski.

  70. moononpluto

    So what else is new. They are all talk and no action, as they really don’t intend to do what they like to profess to their voters.

  71. Yes I have to agree, what they all say they are going to get rid of ear marks on Fox…then they vote to keep it….GOP has NOT changed….they are going to be on Obama’s side right down the line. We are just freaked! The only ones who could help us are either polarizing or now incapable of doing their jobs now because of Wikileaks….hmmmm, hmmmmm! Makes you wonder if this Wikileaks sole purpose was to put a gag on Hillary!

  72. I don’t think the congress and senate will change until the American drive to DC and literally throw them out….I personally think when the masses find out that most of the republicans aren’t going to do any better is when the poop will hit the fan.

  73. NMF, the Reps didnt have the votes in the senate, only 7 dems voted for the ban……7, thats all. However when they take over the house, they can refuse to fund it, different story.

  74. Washington Post going after obama on wikileaks…Obama is “wikiweak”….quite an indictment.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112902474.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    Is the United States of America really powerless to stop a nomadic cyber-hacker – who sleeps on people’s couches and changes his hair color to avoid surveillance – from causing enormous damage to our national security?

    Apparently, in the age of Obama, we are.

    Four months ago, the criminal enterprise WikiLeaks released more than 75,000 stolen classified documents that, among other things, revealed the identities of more than 100 Afghans who were cooperating with America against the Taliban. The Obama administration condemned WikiLeaks’ actions. The Justice Department said it was weighing criminal charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. The Pentagon warned that if WikiLeaks did not stand down and return other stolen documents it possessed, the government would “make them do the right thing.”

    And then nothing happened.

    Last month, WikiLeaks struck again – this time posting more than 390,000 classified documents on the war in Iraq. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, responded with a Twitter post: “Another irresponsible posting of stolen classified documents by WikiLeaks puts lives at risk and gives adversaries valuable information.” Mullen was right – but, with all respect to the chairman, a tweet was not exactly the cyber-response the WikiLeaks disclosures warranted.

    Now, WikiLeaks has struck a third time with what may prove to be its most damaging disclosures yet – a cache of more than 251,287 American diplomatic cables and directives, including more than 117,000 that are classified. According to the New York Times, which was given advance copies of the documents, many cables “name diplomats’ confidential sources, from foreign legislators and military officers to human rights activists and journalists, often with a warning to Washington: ‘Please protect’ or ‘Strictly protect.’ ” Other documents detail confidential conversations with foreign leaders, including Arab leaders urging the U.S. to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. Still others could hamper U.S. counterterrorism efforts – such as a cable in which Yemeni leaders say they lied to their own parliament by claiming that Yemeni forces, not Americans, had carried out missile attacks against al-Qaeda. If Yemen responds to this revelation by restricting U.S. efforts to hunt down al-Qaeda, the results could be devastating.

    What action did the Obama administration take to prevent the impending release of such volatile information? State Department legal adviser Harold Koh sent a strongly worded letter urging WikiLeaks to cease publishing classified materials. I’m sure that made Assange think twice.

    Is the Obama administration going to do anything – anything at all – to stop these serial disclosures of our nation’s most closely guarded secrets? Just this past week, the federal government took decisive action to shut down more than 70 Web sites that were disseminating pirated music and movies. Hollywood is safe, but WikiLeaks is free to disseminate classified documents without consequence.

    With this latest release, Assange may now have illegally disclosed more classified information than anyone in American history. He is in likely violation of the Espionage Act and arguably is providing material support for terrorism. But unlike leakers who came before him, Assange has done more than release information; he has created a virtual system for the ongoing collection and dissemination of America’s secrets. The very existence of WikiLeaks is a threat to national security. Unless something is done, WikiLeaks will only grow more brazen – and our unwillingness to stop it will embolden others to reveal classified information using the unlawful medium Assange has built.

    WikiLeaks’ first disclosures caught the Obama administration by surprise. But how does the administration explain its inaction in the face of WikiLeaks’ two subsequent, and increasingly dangerous, releases? In both cases, it had fair warning: Assange announced what kinds of documents he possessed, and he made clear his intention to release them.

    The Obama administration has the ability to bring Assange to justice and to put WikiLeaks out of business. The new U.S. Cyber Command could shut down WilkiLeaks’ servers and prevent them from releasing more classified information on President Obama’s orders. But, as The Post reported this month, the Obama administration has been paralyzed by infighting over how, and when, it might use these new offensive capabilities in cyberspace. One objection: “The State Department is concerned about diplomatic backlash” from any offensive actions in cyberspace, The Post reported. Well, now the State Department can deal with the “diplomatic backlash” that comes from standing by helplessly, while WikiLeaks releases hundreds of thousands of its most sensitive diplomatic cables.

    Because of its failure to act, responsibility for the damage done by these most recent disclosures now rests with the Obama administration. Perhaps this latest release crosses a line that will finally spur the administration to action. After all, the previous disclosures harmed only our war efforts. But this latest disclosure is a blow to a cause Democrats really care about – our diplomatic efforts. Maybe now, finally, the gloves will come off. Or is posting mournful tweets about the damage done to our national security the best this administration can do?

    Marc Thiessen is a visiting fellow with the American Enterprise Institute and writes a weekly column for The Post.

  75. I’ve come to the opinion that if saner minds prevail, Hillary should not be damaged from wikileaks but instead lauded as a strong leader who will do whatever she can to defend her country.

    Her information gathering requests to fellow diplomats is what a smart SOS does. How else does the U.S. make the right decisions when it comes to foreign policy if they haven’t done their homework first? Especially concerning unstable regimes with even more unstable leaders.

    Some of her comments and others might not be quite Emily Post, but she is doing her job. And the U.N., now taken over by Islam needs to be watched.

    That is what Hillary is doing and I say good for her.

  76. Mrs. Smith –

    Senate Passes Overhaul of Food Safety Regulations

    The Senate passed a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s
    food-safety system on Tuesday that would give the Food and
    Drug Administration new powers to order recalls of tainted
    foods, increase inspections, oversee farming and demand
    accountability from food companies. The vote was 73-25 in
    favor.

    The bill attracted support from major food makers as well as
    consumer advocates after a series of problems with tainted
    eggs, peanut butter and spinach sickened thousands of people.

    Despite unusual bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and a
    strong push from the Obama administration, though, the bill
    could still die, because there might not be enough time left
    in the session for the usual haggling between the Senate and
    House of Representatives, which passed its own version of the
    bill last year. Top House Democrats have said that they would
    consider simply passing the Senate version to speed approval.

    Read More:
    http://www.nytimes.com?emc=na

    BBL

  77. Well I am depressed now over Hillary and worried too. Her safety is utmost on my mind while she continues to work for the fraud. I still think this whole thing is just a hit piece on Hillary. Not much on Obama that makes him look bad though, but he’s the real problem.

  78. I’ve read 3 stories today calling for Hillary’s head….its so fucking disgusting I can’t stand it!
    ——————————-
    They will get no traction.

  79. JanH,
    I don’t know I’m just really feeling like its all hopeless at this point. Hillary’s is strong and she’ll weather this storm…she always does! Obama would be wilting right now, but not our Hillary, she is still out there working her ass off!

    OK, now I feel better!

  80. JanH
    November 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am
    I’ve come to the opinion that if saner minds prevail, Hillary should not be damaged from wikileaks but instead lauded as a strong leader who will do whatever she can to defend her country.
    **************

    I agree Jan…and where,pray tell, is the fraud standing up to support his SOS?

    GREAT post Admin!

  81. I totally agree with the admin’s article on Wikileaks. The organization hates America, and for that reason, it is trying to damage America in the eyes of the world. But, as the admin indicates, it could very well make America stronger.

    If there are any deaths to Americans due to the Wikileaks information that has been disseminated in this sleazy fashion, I send thoughts of the same results being visited on the Wikileaks founder, and his supporting staff. They will deserve whatever they get.

  82. Maybe this Wikileaks will be Hillary’s out from this administration. She may be able to use this to disengage from the administration, and possibly say that it was due to the inept handling of the Wikileak information by that Øbama administration, or the failure of the administration to protect American interests.

  83. It’s apparent that Øbama really doesn’t care much about the damage that Wikileaks continues to do to American interests. It’s probably because he empathizes with them, and views much of the negative information in the same manner as the Wikileaks organization. Øbama simply can’t bring it upon himself to shoot this messenger because he harbors the same feelings of loathing for America. His true self is now plainly visible for all to see.

  84. Government Refuses to Act on Cancer-Causing Insulation
    Updated: 53 minutes ago

    Andrew Schneider
    Senior Public Health Correspondent
    This is Part 1 of a four-part series on an asbestos-tainted insulation called Zonolite, a killer that lurks in the attics and walls of millions of homes.

    WASHINGTON (Nov. 29) — Americans living in millions of homes will soon crawl into their attics to collect their holiday decorations. With those colorful lights and ornaments could come invisible and deadly asbestos fibers that decades from now may destroy or end the lives of some of the celebrants.

    For years the government has known that the attics and walls of as many as 35 million homes and businesses are insulated with Zonolite, which contains lethal asbestos-tainted vermiculite. Some medical authorities believe that people are still dying because of it.

    Paul Kitagaki Jr. with permission of the Seattle Post-Inteligencer
    Ten years ago, then EPA investigator Keven McDermott crawled through an attic in Manchester, Wash., confirming the presence of 130 bags of asbestos-containing Zonolite insulation.

    “Based on my experience, and my understanding of the residential and worker exposures to the asbestos in this insulation, I believe firmly that individuals are being sickened and even dying from these exposures across the country on a continuing basis,” said Dr. Aubrey Miller, who was medical director for the EPA team that was sent to the remote town of Libby, Mont., in 1999 to investigate reports of hundreds of deaths and illnesses with asbestosis, mesothelioma and lung cancer.

    More than 400 deaths have been attributed to exposure to vermiculite in the community in which it was mined, and a litany of solid scientific studies has shown that it can kill.

    Yet AOL News has documented that the government has steadfastly refused even to issue widespread warnings to the public about the dangers of a product that became a popular insulation in the 1940s and continued to be installed in U.S. homes through the 1990s.

    The tale of this confirmed killer includes political intrigue, White House intervention, industry meddling and the failure of three Environmental Protection Agency administrators to act on their promises.
    In This Series
    Part 1: Government Refuses to Act on Cancer-Causing Insulation
    Madison Square Garden Case Illustrates Paranoia
    What to Do If You Have Zonolite Insulation
    Part 2: Cancer Patient’s Home a ‘Living Laboratory’ for Deadly Fibers
    Part 3: ‘In Libby, There Was No Maybe’ About Dangers
    Part 4: Asbestos Dangers Known Centuries Ago, but Battle Continues
    When asked what they’ve done to alert the public, EPA officials repeatedly point to the vermiculite page on the agency’s website, which even many inside the agency say is inadequate. W. R. Grace & Co., which produced the vermiculite ore used in the insulation, continues to insist that the insulation is safe and presents no health risk to homeowners.

    Zonolite insulation hasn’t been sold for years, but experts fear its dangers may be more acute today than ever. They worry about the spread of asbestos contamination in aging homes containing this insulation. And they fear that government-funded plans to weatherize millions of homes will increase the likelihood of exposure among installers and residents.

    While the threat exists all year, every year until the Zonolite is removed, experts like Miller believe the potential for exposure to the asbestos is greatest during the holidays.

    He and other researchers from the EPA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have learned from homeowners that while they may go up to their attics occasionally during the year, holidays almost always necessitate climbing the attic stairs.

    Miller told AOL News that decorations, coils of lights, artificial wreaths and trees may have become the resting place for asbestos-laden dust over the years.

    He said he can only imagine how much asbestos has collected in the fake trees and wreaths. But he’s worried most about exposure to the younger children.

    “It’s particularly important to understand the risks for children who have higher breathing rates and will inhale more of the fibers,” said Miller, a father of two. “Children, especially young ones, tend to spend much of their time on the floor playing with the ornaments and toys, breathing the asbestos-contaminated dust, and have many years for the asbestos fibers that lodge in their lungs to eventually cause disease.”

    Dangers Widespread

    For decades, the Grace mine, six miles from Libby, was the source of more than 70 percent of the world’s vermiculite, and geologists say almost all was heavily contaminated with an exceptionally virulent type of cancer-causing asbestos.

    U.S.Geological Service
    This shows 1,000-times magnification of needlelike asbestos fibers that contaminate the vermiculite ore from Libby, Mont. These are the same fibers released when Zonolite insulation is even gently disturbed.
    No one even knows how many people with lung disease are made ill because of exposure to the tainted vermiculite because most physicians — especially those who are not occupational medicine specialists — rarely probe their patients beyond the traditional question of whether they’d ever worked with asbestos.

    Since 1999, Miller, Chris Weis, who was EPA’s lead forensic toxicologist on the Libby team, and many of their colleagues have worked closely with the victims of vermiculite and their survivors. They and other government scientists collected more evidence than they wanted showing that exposure to the asbestos in the insulation can trigger a 20-year or longer path to eventual disease and death for those who disturb and then breathe in the cancer-causing fibers.

    They have fought for years to get the government to disclose the risk to home and business owners throughout the country who have no clue that they may be living with a potentially lethal product.

    But they were far from alone in calling for highly publicized government warnings. Then and now, union health and safety personnel expressed concern for their members who crawl in and around attics and ceilings doing renovations and stringing telephone, television and Internet cables.

    “I am amazed and appalled that nothing has happened,” Joel Shufro, executive director of the New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health, told AOL News last week.

    “Given the tremendous government-funded winterization programs, we can expect exposure to workers to increase as they disturb the old asbestos-carrying insulations,” he said.

    It was at least eight years ago when NYCOSH — a nonprofit coalition of 200 unions and hundreds of health and safety activists — first pleaded for the government to pay attention.

    “Failure of the government to inform workers and others who may be exposed to this hazard is incorrigible. This is a well-known, aggressive carcinogen and unless people know about it, it’s a prescription for death,” Shufro said.

    Spreading From Libby to the Rest of U.S.

    The vermiculite ore pulled from the Grace mine was laced with naturally occurring tremolite, one of the most toxic of six forms of asbestos regulated by the government.

    Interviews and medical records showed that asbestos first killed miners and then their wives and children and then others just living in Libby. More than 400 deaths have been blamed on the asbestos-fouled vermiculite. Government medical testing found that more than a thousand more had signs of asbestos-related disease. But that was just among people living in and near that corner of Montana.

    Andrew Schneider for AOL News
    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency tracked shipments to vermiculite, used in Zonolite insulation, from Libby, Mont., to all over the world.
    How did this dangerous product get into so many homes so far from Libby?

    The government analyzed invoices and shipping papers of the massive building-products and chemical multinational. It found that Grace shipped by rail and road 15.6 billion pounds of the identical cancer-causing mineral that spawned the carnage in Libby to more than 750 plants and factories throughout North America.

    There the flat, silky smooth, raw vermiculite rock went through high-temperature ovens to pop or exfoliate the ore into popcorn-weight fluff that was then bagged and sold by Grace and hundreds of home- and builder-supply outlets as insulation. Sometimes it was used in scores of other products, such as fertilzer, pool lining, garden additives, potting soil enhancers, cat litter and faux ambers for gas fireplaces.

    “There are millions, likely tens of millions of homes in the United States probably contaminated with this [lethal] material. The inventories show it was pretty much distributed from coast to coast, most heavily across the tier of Northern states — New England, the upper Midwest and the Northwest — and in all likelihood, it’s still there,” toxicologist Weis said.

    Agency statisticians geographically plotted sales of Libby vermiculite and showed it went into homes at least as far south as Jacksonville, Fla., and deep into the northern portions of the Canadian provinces. Sales were highest from Grace’s national network of processing plants.

    The threat may be even more pressing today because the potential for hazard is increasing as the homes containing this insulation age.

    “They’re being renovated. New wiring is being put in as the aging wiring becomes unsafe. Internet wiring and cabling is being installed in these attics, as well as exhaust fans and various type of winterization,” said Weis, who is now senior toxicologist with the National Institute for Environmental Health Sciences.

    “All of this activity — even the most gentle action — disturbs the asbestos, endangering not only the workers but spreading it though the homes,” he added.

    But even if the attics are well sealed off from the rest of the house, the EPA and its outside asbestos consultants have found asbestos-contaminated vermiculite dust seeping through wall switches, ceiling-light fixtures and fans and sometimes through the dried-out joint tape in ceilings and walls.

    “If I had Zonolite in my house I would want to know it, and if I knew it, I would do everything I could to get it out of there,” said Paul Peronard, who headed the EPA’s cleanup of Libby.

    The Pain From Zonolite

    Ten years ago and about 400 miles west of Libby, Robert Parks walked into the EPA laboratory in Manchester, Wash., across Puget Sound from Seattle. He dropped off a jar of insulation from his attic and asked what it was.

    Two mornings later, EPA investigator Keven McDermott was crawling over Kraft paper bags marked “Zonolite” and gathered her own sample.

    Andrew Schneider for AOL News
    Les Skramstad was a sweet-singing cowboy who worked just long enough at the asbestos-contaminated vermiculite mine in Libby, Mont., for the tainted ore to kill him and sicken his wife and two of his children.
    Earlier this month, Parks, now 83 and still surviving lung disease, told AOL News that he had sealed up every crack in the attic and was still waiting for Grace to pay to remove it.

    “My lawyer just told me that I might be getting a check soon, and, if I do, I need to figure out whether I’ll pay some medical bills or have the attic cleaned,” Parks said.

    For the next seven years, until she retired, McDermott and her EPA partner, Jed Januch, fielded calls from people who had read a story or heard something on the radio about Zonolite.

    “Some just ripped your heart out,” McDermott told AOL News. “A young Hispanic man called from Yakima and said that he had recently purchased an older home, and he and his wife had just had a baby.

    “After reading articles about Zonolite, he realized that that’s what he had in his attic and would find dust drifting from the attic onto the crib of his son.

    “He was horrified that he was exposing his child to asbestos, and he didn’t have the financial ability to either have it removed or to buy a new house. He was speechless and terrified,” McDermott recalled.

    “These are people who at least had a clue that something about their insulating was dangerous. What about the millions that have no idea at all?

    “Just posting it on the agency’s website is not the answer. How can EPA still be keeping this a secret?”

    Politics Before Public Health

    The EPA should know better.

    The agency’s consultants wrote detailed reports in 1982 showing that people living or working anywhere near the vermiculite ore that was mined in Libby were exposed to potentially lethal levels of the asbestos fibers that contaminated the ore.

    Yet the agency did nothing then to protect the miners, the residents of Libby or the tens of thousands of people exposed to the tons of ore shipped to processing plants around the U.S. and Canada — a fact that still mortifies many in the EPA.

    This was more than 15 years before the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported the devastation caused by the ore being mined from Zonolite Mountain.

    Decades later, the EPA again dropped the ball when it followed White House-issued demands that downplayed warnings of the dangers from dust and smoke after the attacks on the Twin Towers. This prompted the agency’s own investigators to conclude in a January 2002 internal report: “We cannot delay releasing important public health information.”

    These lapses in scientific integrity and of putting politics before public health still irk many of the EPA career professionals.

    Even more troublesome is the fact that the last three EPA administrators promised to issue warnings about the dangers of this unsafe attic insulation, but nothing happened.

    For example, at a town hall meeting in Libby on Sept. 7, 2001, EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman said:

    “We want everyone who comes in contact with vermiculite — from homeowners to handymen — to have the information to protect themselves and their families.

    “We know that this asbestos-containing ore has been shipped almost everywhere. We know its intrinsic hazard. We will get the word out.”

    Whitman returned to Washington and quickly ordered that a public health emergency be declared and, with it, a nationwide warning on Zonolite insulation be prepared.

    Most in the agency agreed that the provisions of the declaration would ensure more vital cleanup money for the contaminated homes in Libby and the needed medical services — such as oxygen, which many need but cannot afford — for the thousands sickened by asbestos diseases.

    But within EPA headquarters there was strong opposition from a small but vocal group in the agency’s Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxins, who repeatedly urged that national warning about the dangers of the vermiculite insulation not be made.

    In memos and internal correspondence obtained by AOL News, the dissidents called the ramifications “enormous” and said that even if the agency paid for the cleaning of only 1 million homes, it would cost more than $10 billion.

    However, no one was calling for EPA to clean these homes, rather to just warn the people who lived in them of the probable danger. Whitman ordered that the announcement move ahead.

    May 3, 2003, was the date set for the rollout of what the EPA press office called a “national consumer awareness campaign to provide homeowners with important information on vermiculite attic insulation which may contain asbestos.”

    News releases had been written, rewritten and written again. Lists of Capitol Hill lawmakers and governors to notify were complied, and all that was left to be decided was whether Whitman would make the announcement from D.C. or Libby.

    It was not to happen.

    Again, politics entered the picture, and the public health emergency language was stalled, then watered down and ultimately thwarted.

    Documents and e-mail between the George W. Bush White House, its Office of Management and Budget and the EPA made it clear that the administration, especially Vice President Dick Cheney, did not want this declaration instituted.

    The main reason, the documents showed, was that Cheney was cheerleading, if not orchestrating, the entire congressional effort to pass asbestos tort reform. Tens of thousands of lawsuits being brought against many of America’s top corporations sought billions of dollars on behalf of people injured or killed from exposure to asbestos in their products or workplaces.

    The law that Cheney supported, if passed, would hamper, if not decimate, the opportunity for injured workers to bring asbestos personal-injury lawsuits against the largest U.S. corporations. These included Grace, the largest automotive and chemical manufacturers, as well as Halliburton, of which Cheney formerly served as chairman and CEO.

    At the time, Cheney’s office refused to respond to questions the legislation, saying it didn’t “comment on internal deliberations.”

    The bill never passed.

    New Administration, Little Change

    There is a tendency among some public health activists to blame the failure of EPA to let the public learn the risks they may face on Republicans. But Cheney is long gone and President Barack Obama has been in office for almost two years, and still the warning hasn’t been given.

    Just last year, on June 16, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Montana’s U.S. Sens. Max Baucus and Jon Tester announced that Libby would finally get the long-awaited public health emergency designation and the asbestos screening, medical treatment and medication that come with it.

    It was the first time anywhere in the country that a declaration was made, but the two agency heads paid only passing note of the asbestos-carrying insulation plaguing the rest of the country.

    Jackson told a handful of reporters attending the briefing about the dangers that may still be lurking at the nation’s hundreds of now-closed vermiculite processing sites where ore from Libby was turned into insulation.

    She urged the public to “become educated.”

    “Just don’t disturb it. Treat it like asbestos. We’re just asking people to use common sense and protect themselves and their families,” the EPA boss told the reporters, without any indication as to how she expected homeowners to know they could be at risk.

    And again, an EPA administrator promised to make a massive and immediate effort to warn the public of the hidden hazard.

    It has been 17 months since Jackson made that promise, and still there is no sign of anything beyond what’s on the EPA’s website.

    Miller echoes the views of many others worried about the risk, that the people, the home and business owners, who need the information probably don’t read the EPA or CDC or National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health websites.

    “The need to really get out to places where people congregate and to get them messages in a way that they can understand is crucial and essential in helping them to understand this material, the risks associated for themselves and their lives,” said Miller, who is now a senior medical adviser for the National Institute for Environmental Health Sciences.

    Repeated requests with EPA’s press office for an interview with Jackson or anyone else who can explain the agency’s refusal to warn the public of the asbestos dangers were refused.

    EDITOR’S NOTE: For more than a decade, two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter Andrew Schneider has followed the saga of the tiny town of Libby, Mont., the asbestos-tainted vermiculite that was mined there and W.R. Grace, the company that shipped the lethal ore throughout the world. Schneider broke the story while with the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, and followed it in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and The Baltimore Sun. Schneider and David McCumber authored “An Air That Kills.” In this four-part report, AOL News’ senior public health reporter examines the government’s history of neglect in informing the public about the dangers of a killer than lurks in the attics and walls of millions of homes.

  85. ImRubberYoureGlue
    “I find the comment about this freeing up Hillary to run in 2012 very interesting. Considering Hillary is driving the story at this point, that is.”
    ____________________________

    Righto! IRYG

    Yes- Hillary is in charge of Wiki-Gate. Any new info goes to her first. Hillary sets the tone and understanding of the investigation…
    _____________________________________

    Reposting Jan’s article once more for those who missed it:

    Clinton is the lead troubleshooter for administration in WikiLeaks mess

    By Sam Youngman – 11/29/10

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton led an administration-wide effort Monday to limit the damage to national security from the leaking of thousands of sensitive diplomatic cables.

    The documents, published by WikiLeaks, included unvarnished opinions of foreign leaders and sensitive information about foreign policy, including revelations that Arab nations in the Middle East have expressed deep concerns to the U.S. about Iran becoming a nuclear power.

    Foreign capitals expressed angst and anger over their release, while on Capitol Hill, Republicans and Democrats alike criticized WikiLeaks and questioned how the documents could have fallen into the hands of that group. Soon-to-be Homeland Security Committee Chairman Pete King (R-N.Y.) suggested WikiLeaks should be labeled a terrorist organization, and he and Rep. Pete Hoekstra (Mich.),the ranking Republican on the Intelligence panel, both called for hearings.

    The diplomatic and political embarrassment created a tricky balancing act for the administration, which denounced WikiLeaks but sought to downplay how much damage might have been caused to both U.S. security and prestige.

    President Obama did not comment on the controversy during a lengthy press appearance announcing his proposal for a federal worker pay freeze. Instead, while the president avoided even a comment about WikiLeaks, Clinton was charged with reaching out to foreign leaders to assuage their concerns.

    Clinton’s work began even before the WikiLeaks documents were revealed on major newspaper websites Sunday.

    She said Monday that she had talked to several foreign leaders over the course of the last several days, and has stressed to them that “official foreign policy is not set through these messages, but here in Washington.”

    “Our policy is a matter of public record, as reflected in our statements and our actions around the world,” Clinton said in remarks at the State Department.
    While some foreign government officials publicly criticized the U.S. for the leaks, Clinton said one of her foreign counterparts told her: “ ‘Don’t worry about it. You should see what we say about you.’

    “So I think that this is well-understood in the diplomatic community as part of the give-and-take,” Clinton said. “And I would hope that we will be able to move beyond this and back to the business of working together on behalf of our common goals.”
    No one in the administration would confirm the legitimacy or accuracy of the stolen cables, but Clinton said the U.S. “strongly condemns” their release.

    At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs declined to specifically comment on any of the disclosures in the cables, but repeatedly called their leaking a criminal act.

    He did say that countries “throughout the world” are worried about Iran’s nuclear program.

    Gibbs said Obama was “not pleased” when he learned of the leaks last week. Gibbs’s refusal to describe Obama as outraged or furious underscored the administration’s attempts to tamp down the potential damage the leaks could cause.

    Since taking office, Obama has made forging new relationships with foreign leaders and restoring America’s standing in the international community some of his most important foreign policy priorities.

    “I am confident that the partnerships that the Obama administration has worked so hard to build will withstand this challenge,” Clinton said. “The president and I have made these partnerships a priority, and we are proud of the progress that they have helped achieve, and they will remain at the center of our efforts.”

    Republicans responded to the most recent leaks with outrage, almost universally calling for the leaker or leakers to be treated as traitors to the U.S.

    “It is critical that the perpetrator who betrayed his country be brought to justice for this deliberate treason that jeopardizes our national security,” said Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.), the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee who is retiring at the end of this Congress.

    Bond called for the committee to hear a full accounting of the “intelligence and diplomatic debacle and about what steps are being taken to ensure that a security breach of this magnitude never happens again.”
    The White House said it is considering all options to bring those responsible for the leaks to justice, while the administration continued to outline steps it has taken to prevent future leaks.

    This is the third massive batch of documents that WikiLeaks has posted online. The first two collections were sensitive documents related to the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

    “Obviously, there is an ongoing criminal investigation about the stealing of and the dissemination of sensitive and classified information,” Gibbs said. “Secondly, I know the administration … we are looking at a whole host of things, and I wouldn’t rule anything out.”

    Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday morning that his department would prosecute anyone found to be involved in the leaks.

    Obama’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) instructed all federal agencies to clamp down on classified information.

    “Any failure by agencies to safeguard classified information pursuant to relevant laws … is unacceptable and will not be tolerated,” Jack Lew, the director of the OMB, wrote in a memo posted Monday morning on the office’s website.

    Lew’s memo calls for each agency that handles classified information to establish “a security assessment team consisting of counterintelligence, security and information assurance experts to review the agency’s implementation of procedures for safeguarding classified information against improper disclosures.”

    Lew said OMB, the Information Security Oversight Office and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence will assist agencies in their review of how to better protect classified information.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/131051-clinton-is-lead-troubleshooter-

  86. ImRubberYoureGlue
    November 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am

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    You’re right. Interesting comment. In general a majority of the comments on that Slate article are defending Hillary even those who say they don’t like her. They are also mocking the author. Good to see all that.

  87. C-Span open microphone catches:
    ““It’s all rigged. The whole conversation is rigged,” said Colorado Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/30/c-span-hot-mic-picks-up-discussion-on-senate-floor-its-all-rigged/#ixzz16n9bRpva

    Did the Senate just get groped? They don’t have to go through the naked scanners at the airport but their nakedness just got shown to us all.

    They love to pretend they are the august body they are supposed to be, but they are only out to fool us.

    I think we should demand that C-Span cameras in both the House and Senate pan the entire room every half hour while while congress is in session.

  88. Well if this is an opportunity for Hillary to get out, maybe she will right a tell-all.

    I bet obama doesn’t want her to leave.

  89. Thanks, Norma Desmond for posting the NYT version of the outcome of “The Food Safety Modernization Act”-

    I have the latest from “Natural News” with their version of TFSMA- We’ll have to see which version shakes out as closest to the truth. Although, for now, NN is in the lead.

    Despite massive protests, US Senate passes S 510 Food Safety Bill

    NaturalNews) The new Food Tyranny Act — called the “Food Safety Modernization Act” in the U.S. Senate — has been passed by the senate today. It would give the FDA vast new powers to criminalize and imprison farmers and food producers while doing absolutely nothing to address to real root of the food contamination problem: Factory animal farm operations (which are regulated under the USDA, not the FDA).

    The bill passed 73 to 25, with Sen Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma) emerging as the greatest “voice of reason” in the debate. His last-ditch amendment to reduce the scale of the bill was defeated this morning.

    Here’s the official vote record:

    h… w… senate.gov/legislative/L…

    Notably, there wasn’t a single Democrat who opposed the bill.

    This bill, as originally written, would have outlawed most nutritional supplements through “harmonization” with European laws. It also would have authorized ten-year prison sentences for farmers selling raw milk to their neighbors. Both of those provisions were eventually stripped out of the bill thanks to some last-minute amendments, but it gives you an idea of the outright police state mentality of the original bill authors who attempted to put in place complete government control over food, gardens, raw milk and more.

    To give you an idea of how clueless U.S. Senators are about food, the New York Times is reporting that when Senate staff members met to discuss this bill, they would eat Starburst candies and jellybeans. As the NYT reports, “In the midst of negotiations, the negotiators — nearly all women — took a field trip to a nearby food market so that a Republican staff member could teach the Democrats how to buy high-quality steaks.”

    So what we have here is a new food tyranny law that was essentially negotiated by a group of women who eat dead foods, animals products and candy.

    No wonder they still don’t get it. The contamination of lettuce and other fresh produce is caused by factory animals farms, not by produce farms. (E.coli can only thrive in the digestive tracts of animals, not plants.)

    The “small farms” exclusion will soon be meaningless
    The Tester Amendment of the bill did manage to exclude some smaller farmers from the more tyrannical provisions of the bill. As currently stated, this would exclude small farms that sell less than $500,000 worth of food and which sell most of their food locally.

    However, Senators failed to consider what’s going to happen when the Federal Reserve keeps printing counterfeit money, devaluing the dollar and causing massive food price inflation. A farm that right now produces merely $100,000 worth of food (which could be a small, two-person farm) will soon find itself producing $500,000 worth of food (or more) due to the rapidly falling value of the U.S. dollar.

    This is how the Federal Reserve’s money counterfeiting actions will further destroy America and place small family farms under the tyranny of the FDA.

    What’s next:

    Defeat the bill in committee

    The Senate version of the bill must now be reconciled with the House version that was passed last year. This reconciliation committee must hammer out the differences between the two bills.

    Democrats are urgently rushing to do this during their “lame duck” session in order to avoid more Republicans getting involved who would seek to scale back the power and size of the federal government.

    Some House Democrats are even suggesting they would support passing the Senate version of the bill as it is written, without requiring any changes whatsoever, just to rush it through before the end of the year. NaturalNews and other health freedom organizations intend to fight this effort, hoping to stall the bill until the new Congress can enter the picture and hopefully interject some common sense into the negotiations.

    Please don’t feed the monster

    If signed into law by the President (who is sure to sign it), this Food Safety Bill would provide yet more power and funding to one of the most dangerous monsters our nation has ever known: The FDA. This is the agency responsible for the death of more Americans than all the wars our nation has ever been involved with — combined!

    (h… w.. naturalnews.com/030461_S…)

    The idea that we’re going to save a few lives from food poisoning while subjecting everyone to yet another layer of Big Government tyranny is so abhorrent and downright evil that if our country’s founding fathers saw all this going on, they would be stunned into silence that it’s happening in “the land of the free.” Fresh milk being criminalized? You’ve got to be kidding…

    Only they’re not kidding. The FDA is the agency that has raided vitamin companies

    (h… w… naturalnews.com/021791.html),

    arrested nutritional supplement manufacturers and ordered the destruction of books containing stevia recipes. This is the agency that censors the scientific truth about natural foods like cherries and walnuts

    (h… w… naturalnews.com/029698_c…)

    while promoting the outright fraud and quackery of the pharmaceutical industry.

    And now the FDA is to be rewarded for its malfeasance with yet MORE power and authority?

    This is how Washington works, folks. The government always thinks it’s here to save you, and the Democrats want Big Government to be your nanny and “take care of you.” (The Republicans, for their part, just want to bail out the wealthy banksters with your money.) And yet, when it all comes down to it, these people are just tyrants who have forgotten American history and abandoned the Constitution and its founding principles.

    Mark my words: Five years down the road, when the FDA’s armed “food police” are running rampant across America, arresting farmers and imprisoning lettuce growers, people will be appalled, and they’ll wonder, “How could we have let this happen!?” The answer is right here: You let it happen because you allowed Big Government to rule over the food supply. And if there’s one thing we know about Big Government, it’s that it always wants to get bigger.

    (ps: Obama has hired 177,000 goverment employees since taking office)

    It always wants more power. More authority. More funding. And more excuses to function as a dictatorship that rules over the American people.

    The Food Safety Modernization Act is to the food supply what the Patriot Act is to the Bill of Rights. We must make every effort to prevent this from becoming law, lest we find ourselves living under a food dictatorship where only dead, fumigated or irradiated food will be allowed to be sold to the public. The “food irradiation plot” has been the plan from the very beginning of all this

    (h… w… naturalnews.com/023015_f…).

    Of course, once the real food is all criminalized and outlawed, there’s always soylent green. That might not be too far off, come to think of it.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/030576_Food_Safety_S_510.html#ixzz16n8BoU1m

  90. Will Obama vacation on a shoe string doing his part to stem the deficit? Or will he use up all the federal cuts he made yesterday in one felt swoop of a Christmas vacation?
    ________________________________

    Obama may delay Hawaiian vacation over tax fight

    CNN News | November 30, 2010 | Ed Henry, CNN Senior White House Correspondent

    Washington (CNN) — President Barack Obama is considering at least a short delay to the start of his holiday vacation in Hawaii so he can try to work out a deal with congressional Republicans on the Bush tax cuts that expire December 31, CNN has learned.

    Two senior administration officials tell CNN the White House has been getting signals that the lame duck session of Congress could drag on past December 18, when the president is scheduled to depart for Hawaii. Obama has privately said he is willing to stay in Washington until Christmas Eve if necessary to finish the contentious debate over taxes, the officials said.

    While administration officials do not expect that Obama will have to stay in town until Christmas Eve, which he did last year because of health care reform, they believe there could be a delay of at least a couple of days.

    The reason is that Democrats and Republicans have made little progress in the tax debate so far, and White House aides went into Tuesday’s long-awaited “Slurpee Summit” believing that both parties will need a lot more negotiating time beyond this one meeting to come up with a compromise.

    Senior Republican aides scoffed at the idea that a tax cut deal could not be worked out before December 17, suggesting that perhaps the White House talk of a vacation delay may just be a negotiating ploy to push Republicans into a quick compromise since they have vacations waiting for them as well.

    “There is absolutely no need for that,” a senior Republican aide said of a possible delay of an end to the lame-duck session. “Once they make a decision, it’s done in a couple days. I hope it doesn’t take the Democrats until Christmas to make up their minds.”

    At issue is whether the current tax rates should be extended just for families earning $250,000 or under per year, or should be extended to include Americans with income above $250,000 a year.

    In the midterm election, Republicans hammered the message that failing to extend the Bush tax rates for wealthy Americans would hamper the already-slow economic recovery. Obama staked out the position that only the middle class tax rates should be extended because extending tax cuts will result in a huge drain on the federal treasury.

    “The last thing we can afford to do right now is raise taxes on middle-class families,” Obama said at an event in Kokomo, Indiana, on November 23. “If we allow these taxes to go up, the result would be that a lot of people most likely would spend less, and that means that the economy would grow less. So we ought to resolve this issue in the next couple of weeks so you’ve got the assurance that your taxes won’t go up when that clock strikes midnight.”

    The president and his aides have also signaled since the election that he might be open to a compromise on a one-year or two-year extension on the tax rates for the wealthy if the tax rates for the middle class were permanently extended.

    But in remarks on the Senate floor before Tuesday’s summit meeting at the White House, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell took a hard line in suggesting that his party will accept only extending all of the tax rates, including those for the highest-paid Americans, without caveats.

    “We’ve heard a lot of chatter here in Washington lately about the negotiations that are expected to take place on this looming tax hike in the weeks ahead — on how to prevent it,” McConnell said. “How about we start with this: the beginning and end of any negotiations shouldn’t be what’s good for any political party. It should be what’s good for the economy and for the American people. And if we leave the politics aside, if we look at the facts, the answer here is simple: no tax hikes on anybody — period.”

    Last year, Obama and his family remained in Washington until the Senate finally passed health care reform legislation on Christmas Eve. They left for Obama’s home state of Hawaii a few hours later.

    The president, first lady Michelle Obama and their two daughters are again planning to go to Hawaii for a vacation that will last until the beginning of January.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/30/obama.vacation.tax.cuts/

  91. Tuesday, November 9, 2010THE KINGMAKERS

    This article was published by the (UK) Daily Mirror on February 12th, 1980.

    It was July 1972 at a mansion in the beautiful Pocantico Hills sixty miles north of New York City that the Trilateral Commission was born.

    Pocantico Hills is owned and run by the five grandsons of the legendary oil magnate John D. Rockefeller.

    Around the huge oak table sat sixteen men. David Rockefeller, Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank and one of America’s wealthiest citizens, headed the meeting.

    At his side was Zbigniew Brzezinski, then head of the Russian Studies department at Columbia University and who is now President Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser.

    Together they took it in turns to explain their new brainchild, the Trilateral Commission–so named because they wanted to bring together the economic giants of the USA, Europe, and Japan.

    They were determined to make the Trilateral Commission the most powerful private body of mankind the world had ever known. They were to be the Kingmakers.

    Since that time the Commission has become in effect the shadow government of the Western world. Its members have either recently held high office in the government or are destined to be the world leaders of tomorrow.

    Two of the original members of the Commission in 1973 were the unknown Governor of Georgia Jimmy Carter and the former Tory Minister Peter Carrington.

    In three years Jimmy Carter was to leap from nowhere to become President of the United States and Peter Carrington was to become one of Britain’s most effective Foreign Secretaries.

    Fifteen months after the Pocantico gathering the Commission held its first official meeting in a luxury hotel in the new economic powerhouse of the world, Tokyo.

    Two hundred and twenty five of the world’s most influential men–bankers, industrialists, diplomats, academics and senior politicians–had been personally invited to become members.

    David Rockefeller, inaugurating that first conference, said: “Private citizens are often able to act with greater flexibility than governments in the search for new and better forms of international cooperation.”

    Rockefeller explained his new idea, which would in reality come to mean global manipulation of economic policies by a powerful group of private citizens.

    The Commission works like this: Task Force papers are produced by experts on orders from the Commission.

    These range from from economic policies to nuclear power, from the energy crisis to the future of democracy.
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    This is our shadow government….why doesn’t wikileaks get shit on these slimeballs??? Now Alan Simpson and his debt commission going to speak with Biden….the shit is about to hit the fan….

    BTW, Some people believe that Wikileaks is a CIA front!

  92. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45722.html

    Former Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell’s dream presidential matchup for 2012 might just be Hillary Clinton versus Sarah Palin.

    O’Donnell, a Republican who rode the tea party wave to a primary upset in August, said she hopes Clinton runs and defeats President Barack Obama in a Democratic primary.

    “I hope she runs for president,” O’Donnell says of Clinton in an interview on “Good Morning America.”

    “I would love to see her take out Obama in the primary. You know, I would even be tempted to change my registration so that I could vote for her in the Democratic primary,” she added.”

    So is it that Clinton would be an easier opponent for a Republican nominee? “No. It’s because I think right now anybody is better than Obama,” she said.

    But that doesn’t mean O’Donnell wants to see Clinton become president. “I love everybody in the Republican side who’s even considering throwing their hat in the ring, so I’d be happy with any candidate who gets the Republican nomination,” she said.

    That includes Sarah Palin, who she says “shoots from the hip.”

  93. The ass is falling out on foreign diplomacy, Hillary is busting her butt to fix the leak and Obama is planning to go on holiday, seriously WTF is going on.

  94. Mrs. Smith
    November 30th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    Will Obama vacation on a shoe string doing his part to stem the deficit? Or will he use up all the federal cuts he made yesterday in one felt swoop of a Christmas vacation?
    ************

    Another vacay? He really thinks he is an European.

  95. Wow Obama must be shitting himself, sounds like a cave in is coming……

    Gibbs confirms Cantor’s statement that POTUS admitted he could have reached out more but Gibbs said GOPers did not offer any similar retort.

    Why should the republicans? Obama made it very clear “he won”.

  96. Now doubt Hillary had to fight to get this done.

    WikiLeaks: US State Department says it has severed its database of cables from one classified US government network.

  97. This is going to cause trouble in the UK.

    WikiLeaks: British Government told US its interests would be protected during the Iraq War Inquiry.

  98. Oh this is going to be interesting. Sen Bennett “its all rigged”

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/30/c-span-hot-mic-picks-up-discussion-on-senate-floor-its-all-rigged/

    A hot mic left on during a Senate vote Tuesday morning on the Food Safety Act caught a senator complaining that process of setting the agenda during the lame-duck session is “rigged.”

    “It’s all rigged. The whole conversation is rigged,” said Colorado Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet. “The fact that we don’t get to a discussion before the break about what we’re going to do in the lame duck. It’s just rigged.”

    The remark was picked up live on C-SPAN 2, although microphones are usually turned down during voting times. An aide quickly realized the mistake, jumped up and had the sound cut off.

    Bennet Chief of Staff Guy Cecil stood by the senator’s comments.

    “It’s something he’s been talking about from day one,” Cecil told The Daily Caller in an interview outside the Senate chamber. “The whole process being rigged against having a real conversation about tax cuts, the estate tax and the defense authorization. We’re not having a lot of those conversations. It’s just a symptom of Washington being broken.”

  99. “Why should the republicans? Obama made it very clear “he won”.

    ————-

    He was arrogance personified from day one. The adulation went to his empty head and he never recovered from it.

    I believe he still thinks the world is his oyster even after the mid-terms.

  100. Some more Wikileaks info…Reuters is saying that the bank data that is going to be released is from the hard drive of a Bank of America executive. This should be interesting…

  101. WikiLeaks: British Government told US its interests would be protected during the Iraq War Inquiry.
    ________________________

    The weak link ripe for a breach. This is the connection she must have had shut down.

  102. Good on Hillary for shutting it down. God knows obama is more concerned about whether he has enough bermuda shorts to take to Hawaii.

  103. Yeah, I am very interested in these freaking bankers who are the ones actually running our govt.

    Glad Hillary cut off all lines to be snooped on, apparently she believes they are still being recorded.

  104. Thats what i just heard, Bank of America stock fell through the floor apparently earlier.

    Confloyd, has apparently months and months worth of stuff it can drip it said a few days ago.

  105. Howard Dean to AP: Obama must reclaim progressive voters or risk both re-election and the Democratic Party’s future for years to come.

    Ya think?

  106. Wikileaks : Saudi Arabia would react to a nuclear Iran by obtaining a weapon with Pakistani assistance and Egypt would follow.

  107. AmericanGal
    November 30th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    Marc Ambinder has an article defending Hillary..isn’t he usually anti-Hillary?

    “What Hillary Clinton Didn’t Do”
    The Secretary of state didn’t turn diplomats into spies

    ———————
    Thank you for posting this article. I’m not an Ambinder fan but I agree with him this time.

  108. AmericanGal
    November 30th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    —————–
    That is a good article. Shuts up jokers like Shafer.

  109. Oh fuck, don’t like the sound of this.

    Uk Guardian editor today on Wikileaks/Cablegate: “Terrible” disclosures coming.

  110. Guardian Editor :

    “In the coming days, we are going to see some quite startling disclosures about Russia, the nature of the Russian state, and about bribery and corruption in other countries, particularly in Central Asia. We will see a wrath of disclosures about pretty terrible things going on around the world.”— Investigations Executive Editor David Leigh of the Guardian, one of three news organizations given advanced access to the US State Dept. cables by WikiLeaks.

  111. So. Is Obama stupid or a liar? Or, just a stupid liar?

    Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Tue, November 30, 2010 — 3:13 PM ET
    —–

    From Pakistan, Diplomats Wrote About a Vexing Ally

    Confidential cables to Washington from the American embassy
    in Islamabad, obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to a
    number of news organizations, illustrate deep clashes over
    strategic goals on issues like Pakistan’s support for the
    Afghan Taliban and tolerance of Al Qaeda, and Washington’s
    warmer relations with India, Pakistan’s archenemy.

    One cable, sent less than a month after President Obama
    assured reporters that Pakistan’s nuclear materials “will
    remain out of militant hands,” expressed concern that a
    stockpile of highly enriched uranium, stored for years near
    an aging research reactor in Pakistan , could be used by
    militants to build several “dirty bombs” or perhaps an actual
    nuclear bomb.

    That cable is among the most unnerving evidence of the
    complex relationship — sometimes cooperative, often
    confrontational, always wary — between America and Pakistan
    nearly 10 years into the American-led war in Afghanistan.

    Read More:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/world/asia/01wikileaks-pakistan.html?emc=na

  112. Connie – if you are looking at Drudge – STOP!

    Drudge, that old witch Lucienne Goldberg and her sleazy son Jonah were all behind the “Blue Dress” crap while terrorists plotted to blow up the WTC and more.

    Don’t expect Drudge to help HRC in any way.

    Besides, if you read the headlines, they are the quintessential “FIRE!” in the theatre. Once you read the links (and make more money for Matt Drudge) you will see often that barely a match was struck.

  113. NormaDesmond,
    Thanks for the info. I do read Drudge, only because it is easily accessible. I’ve been looking at Der Speigel and UK Guardian. Why aren’t they just giving us the thing without their little input? I would just like to read the cables myself.

  114. November 30, 2010

    In Central Asia, Clinton Condemns Leaks but Defends Openness

    By MARK LANDLER

    ASTANA, Kazakhstan — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke about the virtues of an open society here on Tuesday, at the start of her first overseas trip since the release of thousands of confidential diplomatic cables containing blunt appraisals of foreign countries and leaders.

    As if to underline the awkwardness of the timing, Kazakhstan’s leaders are among those cited by American diplomats in the WikiLeaks cables, with juicy descriptions of their lifestyles — from a private Elton John concert for the son-in-law of the Kazakhstan’s president, to his baronial horse farm, to a crazy night of club-hopping by the prime minister.

    A State Department official said that Mrs. Clinton had not read the leaked cables or raised them with the president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev. She is scheduled to meet him at a conference here on Wednesday.

    But two prominent women who came to hear her speak at a university laughed off the issue, saying that disclosures about high-living leaders were old hat in their country and these would hurt neither the standing of the United States nor its relationship with Kazakhstan.

    “It’s very entertaining reading,” said Aigul Solovyeva, a member of Parliament who credits Mrs. Clinton with inspiring her to enter politics. Another female politician, Battalova Zauresh, went further, saying, “It’s a confirmation of American leadership in global political issues.”

    Mrs. Clinton, however, did not dismiss the leaked material so lightly. Asked by a student about the WikiLeaks case, she repeated her condemnation of the release of the cables, saying it would threaten the lives of human-rights activists, religious leaders, and anti-government figures.

    “This was a very irresponsible, thoughtless act that put at risk the lives of innocent people all over the world, without much regard for those who are most vulnerable, including journalists,” she said.

    It was Mrs. Clinton’s second reference to journalists in the context of the WikiLeaks case. She noted that confidential communication was vital for journalists, as well as for government officials.

    Still, Mrs. Clinton tried not to allow the leak to muddy her message of openness in this restrictive country. While she credited Kazakhstan for coming farther than its neighbors in protecting human rights and democracy, she said more needed to be done. She promised to raise the issue of imprisoned activists and journalists with Mr. Nazarbayev.

    In the Internet age, Mrs. Clinton said, it is difficult to balance freedom and responsibility. Some governments, she said, were overreacting by throwing bloggers in jail. At the same time, spreading information online can be harmful, she said, citing the recent case of a young man in New Jersey who committed suicide after a fellow student posted video of him in a gay tryst.

    “We’ve got to support and protect freedom of expression, whether it’s from an individual or from a journalist,” she said. “But there also have to be some rules or some sense of responsibility that has to be inculcated.”

    None of the details about Kazakhstan in the cables are particularly scandalous, but they are somewhat satirical in tone.

    In one passage, Prime Minister Karim K. Masimov is described as arriving at 11:30 p.m. at Chocolat, one of Astana’s trendiest nightclubs. As other members of his group got up to dance, Mr. Masimov was spotted by American officials dancing alone on a stage overlooking the floor. Another senior Kazakh official, the cable said, “appears to enjoy loosening up in the tried and true ‘homo Sovieticus’ style — i.e. drinking oneself into a stupor.”

    The cable goes on to describe a dinner thrown by a wealthy oligarch, Aleksandr Mashkevich, for Kazakhstan’s foreign minister, Kanat Saudabayev, and two unnamed American congressmen. “It is not clear what Mashkevich is spending his billions on, but it is certainly not culinary talent,” the cable said, describing a menu of boiled meat and noodles, and surly waiters who behaved as though they had been trained at the “Soviet cafeteria training academy.”

    “The wine, at least, was somewhat upscale,” it concluded.

    Mrs. Clinton said she would continue reaching out to world leaders whose names or countries are in the cables. That could make her five-day trip to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf something of a contrition tour, since she is likely to encounter European and Gulf state leaders who appear in a far less innocent light than Mr. Nazarbayev and his colleagues.

    But on her next stop, Kyrgyzstan, she is likely to get a break: the only notable cable in which that country figures is an account of a lunch with Prince Andrew of Britain and local and foreign business people. After listening to his guests catalog the corrupt business practices in Kyrgyzstan, the prince is quoted as saying, “All of this sounds exactly like France.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/world/asia/01diplo.html

  115. Holy Crapes Batman, sounds like $hit hit the fan while I was working…don’t even know where to start reading up on the thread…

  116. http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/11/30/inspector-general-report-details-acorn-fraud/

    Inspector General Report Details ACORN Fraud

    Contacted by Big Government about the report, incoming Chair of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, Rep. Darrell Issa, had this comment:

    It is really unthinkable that anyone would use the guise of public safety and helping victims of a tragedy like Hurricane Katrina as a calculating way to inappropriately obtain taxpayer dollars. As the discussion over how to reign in government’s growth and spending moves forward, there couldn’t be a more important time to ensure that the grants awarded with taxpayer dollars meet rigorous criteria and are subject to vigilant oversight to ensure that grant recipients are not given access to taxpayer dollars under false pretenses.”

    The key things in the DHS IG’s report were:

    * “We concluded that the ACORN Institute should not have received these funds, did not fully implement and evaluate the program as approved, and could not substantiate all its grant expenditures.
    * “The FEMA did not have sufficient oversight processes to prevent the award or to fully evaluate the use of the grant money.”
    * The Technical Evaluation Panel that reviewed ACORN’s grant request recommended it not be funded but “FEMA overrode the panels’ recommendation and awarded the grant without documenting how it addressed the Technical Evaluation Panel’s concerns.”
    * ACORN described an Urban Fire Initiative that did not actually exist until they requested the funding: “the Urban Fire Initiative did not exist prior to the grant application, but was created specifically for activities funded by the FY 2007 Fire Prevention and Safety Grant. Neither ACORN Institute nor the Urban Fire Initiative was involved in any of the above activities and events.”
    * ACORN claimed partnerships with local fire departments but “there was no evidence of these partnerships were in place…”
    * FEMA relied on “self certification” and “has no requirement or standard procedure in the evaluation process of the Fire Prevention and Safety grant applications to validate the legitimacy of significant claims and assertions used to qualify an applicant for the grant…”

  117. JanH, well the inquiry was last year in Obama’s watch and they effectively covered it up.

    This wiki thing is all really about Obama’s admin.

  118. A few things I have been thinking:

    1. The sex assault allegations vs. Assange are weak. Seem to be based upon condoms breaking during consensual sex. Breaking a rubber or not wearing one during sex can be charged as a sexual assault in Sweden. Regardless, the guy is a still a dick.

    2. Never thought Soros was the evil empire before all this but between the SB510 FDA bill, the wikileaks connection and MediaMatters- and his lengthy history of fucking things up to make a buck in the stock markets, I sorta wish the Nazi’s had killed him. He’s an evil mutherfucker. Seriously evil.

    3. The American people are dumber than rocks and deserve what they’ve gotten. Too bad the rest of us get dragged into their goddamn messes.

    4. I think if White House Insider exists it is NOT Rahm Emanuel as some suggest. I think it is someone who has worked extensively with him when he was in Congress and with the Clinton’s loosely (i.e. congressional stuff or DCCC) in the 90’s. Maybe brought in as an adviser on media matters during the healthcare drama and ignored. And because of his association with Rahm, marginalized fairly quickly by MO and VJ. I think his— and it is a he based upon speech patterns and vocab, averments of regret over being involved in the campaign are real. Too particular to the breed not to be. His age is late 40’s to mid 50’s. Got his 1st big gig in the 90’s, maybe lobbied for a small while but mostly a gun for hire. Couple of grown or nearly grown kids, mostly upper Midwest or East Coast living for the past couple of decades. Maybe Irish, Scottish or English background. Gregarious, attracted to power and winning- was tired of losing since ’94 and took the sure thing. Definitely NOT Carville. Colloquialisms are all wrong and Carville would just say shit he feels publicly. Not a Southerner at all. Not a name any of us would normally recognized. Behind the scenes staffer sort, but well-known and respected in the right circles. A survivor between admins thus never a household name.

    5. Hillary is being sent out as the sacrificial lamb on this leaks things. BO gets to undermine her growing support as a Dem challenger in 2012. If she plays this right, she walks on her own terms and beats his ass with little challenge. The margins are razor thin though. It certainly helps the GOP overall on the national security issue which HRC was bringing over to the Dems if the story stays on her encouraging ‘spying’ for the next few weeks. The severing of the State database from the Pentagon (and that’s what they severed it looks like) means they may push this off on more DoD employees eventually. Not a bad play longterm as Gates isn’t staying anyhow. We all know Obama is a chickenshit, but maybe there is something to this mental disengagement thing though. Though I would, if I were his adviser, have him pass the buck elsewhere and it really is in the country’s best interest to have it’s MVP handle this as BO has no international respect as evidenced by his epic fail a few weeks ago in Asia. If HRC is successful- she looks like presidential material and BO a poor, poor pretender. That should get the checks flowing come June.

  119. WikiLeaks cables: ‘US aid will not stop Pakistan supporting militants’

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/30/wikileaks-us-aid-pakistan-militants

    Embassy cables reveal US frustration as Islamabad fosters selected insurgents as a buffer against India

    Pakistan’s army is covertly sponsoring four major militant groups, including the Afghan Taliban and Mumbai attackers Lashkar-e-Taiba, and “no amount of money” will change the policy, the US ambassador warned in a frank critique revealed by the state department cables.

    Although Pakistan had received more than $16bn (£10bn) in American aid since 2001, “there is no chance that Pakistan will view enhanced assistance … as sufficient compensation for abandoning support to these groups”, Anne Patterson wrote in a secret review of Afghanistan-Pakistan strategy in September 2009.

    The assessment highlights a stark contradiction – that one of Washington’s key allies is quietly propping up its enemies – and is an admission of the limits of US power in a country that still views India, not the Taliban, as its principal threat.

    With Washington fearful of deploying troops to fight al-Qaida in Pakistan, money has been its main weapon since 2001. It has given the army $9bn to fight the Taliban and al-Qaida in the tribal belt; on 22 October the White House announced an extra $2bn over the next five years.

  120. This article from 09′ outlines Assange’s plan to continue releasing confidential data and classified documents. Assange seems to have protected himself from responsibility as well insulated himself from prosecution. He has handed over the ‘keys’ to others to do the ‘dirty’ for him. (imo- Assange has been at this so long, incarseration or his death will not stop the flow of wikileaks.)
    ______________________________

    Wikileaks plans to make the Web a leakier place

    October 9, 2009

    IDG News Service – Wikileaks.org, the online clearinghouse for leaked documents, is working on a plan to make the Web leakier by enabling newspapers, human rights organizations, criminal investigators and others to embed an “upload a disclosure to me via Wikileaks” form onto their Web sites.

    The upload system will give potential whistleblowers around the world the ability to leak sensitive documents to an organization or journalist they trust over a secure connection, while giving the receiver legal protection they might not otherwise enjoy.
    “We will take the burden of protecting the source and the legal risks associated with publishing the document,” said Julien Assange, an advisory board member at Wikileaks, in an interview at the Hack In The Box security conference in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

    Once Wikileaks confirms the uploaded material is real, it will be handed over to the Web site that encouraged the submission for a period of time. This embargo period gives the journalist or rights group time to write a news story or report based on the material.
    The embargo period is a key part of the plan, Assange said. When Wikileaks releases material without writing its own story or finding people who will, it gains little attention.

    “It’s counterintuitive,” he said. “You’d think the bigger and more important the document is, the more likely it will be reported on but that’s absolutely not true. It’s about supply and demand. Zero supply equals high demand, it has value. As soon as we release the material, the supply goes to infinity, so the perceived value goes to zero.”

    The final act will be for Wikileaks to publish the material on its Web site after the story has been written and the embargo period lapsed.

    “We want to get as much substantive information as possible into the historical record, keep it accessible and provide incentives for people to turn it into something that will achieve political reform,” said Assange.

    Wikileaks is also working on ways to make browsing throuh the material it receives easier for users.
    Wikileaks often runs into problems concerning how to present material and how to make it easier to sift through for vital information, said Assange.

    “At the moment, for example, we are sitting on 5GB from Bank of America, one of the executive’s hard drives,” he said. “Now how do we present that? It’s a difficult problem. We could just dump it all into one giant Zip file, but we know for a fact that has limited impact. To have impact, it needs to be easy for people to dive in and search it and get something out of it.”

    In three years on the Web, Wikileaks published over 1.2 million sensitive documents.

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139180/Wikileaks_plans_to_make_the_Web_a_leakier_place
    ________________________________

    Comments at the link in 09′ are mostly positive for the publishing of information-

  121. “Hillary is being sent out as the sacrificial lamb on this leaks things.”
    _________________

    Hillary has taken the Bull by the Horns making herself the ‘go to guy’ for damage control. Any forthcoming classified information will go through her first before it is released publicly.

    Jan posted this earlier:

    Clinton is the lead troubleshooter for administration in WikiLeaks mess

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/131051-clinton-is-lead-troubleshooter-

  122. ‘US aid will not stop Pakistan supporting militants’

    ————–
    and yet bambi keeps pushing to finance them.

  123. Mrs. Smith
    November 30th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    ————–
    Wanna bet that obama threw a hissy fit when this first went down and cried to Hillary to do something?

    This guy is useless.

  124. OkieAtty
    November 30th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    ——————–
    interesting read. To your 3rd point, it looks like this will not hurt Hillary as much as Obama would have liked. Judging by the comments on various blogs from anti-Hillary and bot people, they are all defending Hillary.

  125. WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Tells TIME: Hillary Clinton ‘Should Resign’
    _________________________

    This reeks of Obama and Soros, just like we said yesterday. When I saw the third leak… was about Hillary.I knew it was going to be used to attempt to discredit her. In her statement yesterday, she didn’t want to say the leaks were aimed at her because she is not looking for sympathy from her supporters or from the general public… She said it was about destroying America and IT IS all about making America’s security look weak and untrustworthy in foreign policy as well.

  126. If they don’t start backing Hillary soon, i hope she tells them all to fuck right off. Where the fuck is the person at the head, sucking slurpees?

    This is not right.

    Did anyone tell gates to resign after the last wikileak?

    They will use this to try to kill her career, they are already starting.

  127. Wanna bet that obama threw a hissy fit when this first went down and cried to Hillary to do something?
    ______________________

    I bet Hillary said to Obama: “I’ll handle this!!! OR do you want to do it?” You know he said… “well I have the Tax thing going and I’m almost on vacation- OK- you take care of it!”

    Obama the coward!

    He figures she will get in over her head.. yeah, right- She will run rings around anyone trying to discredit or smear her..

    GO HILLARY! GO!

  128. JanH
    November 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    ‘US aid will not stop Pakistan supporting militants’

    ————–
    and yet bambi keeps pushing to finance them.

    Frankly speaking, we have little choice. That government is scattered and often on the ropes. They play both sides because they have to. Withdrawing from the game does nothing to eradicate the legitimate threat from the Taliban, etc..

  129. “They will use this to try to kill her career, they are already starting.”
    ____________________

    Just a few using the opportuinity to spout their opinion. They never were Clinton supporters, like David Corn… feh! He is a piece of work. His opinion doesn’t hold much weight. He lambasted Bill thoughout the impeachment… small potatoes!

    This is giving Hillary the opportunity to show her stuff. The Clintons always turn adversity into the advantage for a great opportunity. Obama of course, runs away and hides.

  130. “That government is scattered and often on the ropes. They play both sides because they have to. Withdrawing from the game does nothing to eradicate the legitimate threat from the Taliban, etc..”
    ____________________-

    In a peace offering encouraging Pakistan continuing negotiations with Israel, they were iust given $180,000M. Didin’t say what the money was to be used for- I’m sure this was at the direction of Obama.

  131. Mrs. Smith,

    If BO does not come out and publicly support Hillary’s handling of this and her prior directives, he is kneecapping her in future elections as this will always be used as a club with which to beat her over the head. The downsides are it makes her look weaker than she actually is, takes that club away from her, takes away his plausible deniability if things get hairy later on and might make it a bigger issue. The only upside is innoculating her against criticsm and he does not want to do that regardless of the overriding effect on foreign relations which so far look really, really solid based on the interviews I have seen. A more interesting subnote- Israel which has no love for BO but does for HRC looks solid in this with their warnings being backed by all of their neighbors.

  132. #
    moononpluto
    November 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    The ass is falling out on foreign diplomacy, Hillary is busting her butt to fix the leak and Obama is planning to go on holiday, seriously WTF is going on.

    ——-
    No $hit!

    I almost wished Hillary would walk away and let him fall flat on his busted lip.

    We need her help though, and I feel so much safer with her there.

  133. BREAKING wikileaks – Interpol issues wanted notice for Julian Assange

    This is not going to end well because a guy like this will have left insurance all over the place or at least mutual destruction, he knew this would probably happen.

  134. Curious though as soon as the banks are mentioned as next target Assange ends up on the Interpol wanted list.

  135. OkieAtty
    November 30th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    Mrs. Smith

    I agree- Soros set this up to enhance Obama’s reelectabilty- as usual, Obama is stumped in how to handle Hillary.. I have to laugh, Soros, never in his wildest dreams did he ever realize his hired gun could only shoots blanks!

    Hillary is presidential material- She can handle this n’er do will with one hand tied behind her back. She is operating on her own turf surrounded by her own loyal team… At the end of it all- Obama will be disgraced, as he once more shrugs off his responsibilty onto others to do the job he has sworn to do- Protect America, the Constitution and Americans.

  136. I can’t wait to read admins take on all this. That Time story is going to be all over the news tonight…

  137. Come to think of it- if he is all about openness and such, why not man up and submit to questioning????

    Hypocritical pussy.

  138. Assange calling on her to resign is only going to make Americans back her all the harder, in fact its probably the best thing for her, when you have Chavez and Assange calling on her to resign then i think the ordinary americans may think, she has done it right.

    If there is one thing Americans dont like is outsiders telling them what to do.

  139. moononpluto
    November 30th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Curious though as soon as the banks are mentioned as next target Assange ends up on the Interpol wanted list.
    _______________________________

    Yesterday, Okie warned us BoA is dropping their FDIC insurance. Means all savings accounts are uninsured. Could be for the coming storm- bank shutdown with the FDIC broke in need of a federal Bail-out.

  140. “then i think the ordinary americans may think, she has done it right.”
    ____________________________

    Newspapers and media are folding more than ever- People know they have been burned by news obfustication to Obama’s Hopey-Changey message. They are accessing the intenet more than ever doing their own research and homework. Finding their own way to the truth, just like we did, back when-

  141. At her press conf yesterday, Hillary said she had talked to many of her counterparts around the world in the last few days. She said one of them said to her “Don’t worry about that. You should see what we say about you.” 🙂

  142. Assange should be hunted down and assassinated like Osama bin Laden.

    Who is this America hating little twerp to ruin decades of diplomatic work then call for the resignation of the United States of America.

    Kill him.

  143. Assange should be hunted down and assassinated like Osama bin Laden.

    Who is this America hating little twerp to ruin decades of diplomatic work then call for the resignation of the Secretary of States of the United States of America?

    Kill him.

  144. @ecoast She said one of them said to her “Don’t worry about that. You should see what we say about you.”
    —————–

    yep, I kept thinking about that line, that was quintessentially Hillary, very smart.

  145. Mrs. Smith
    Soros set this up to enhance Obama’s reelectabilty- as usual, Obama is stumped in how to handle Hillary..

    Hillary is presidential material- She can handle this n’er do will with one hand tied behind her back. She is operating on her own turf surrounded by her own loyal team… At the end of it all- Obama will be disgraced, as he once more shrugs off his responsibilty onto others to do the job he has sworn to do- Protect America, the Constitution and Americans.

    —-
    One big, fat YUP!

    This isn’t WWIII, it’s small change compared to all the drama going on across the world stage.

    So what if the little boys poke more sticks at her, she is no coward nor does she back down.

    GO HILLARY!!!!!

  146. Oh wow-

    Tonight’s news on msnbc has a video of Assange saying: “Hillary should resign over the spying incident.” Assange never mentions Condi Rice, the previous SOS, who originated the spying policy under Bush in his message. Soros is becoming a little too obvious with his manipulation of the system. Assange is nothing more than Soros’ bought and paid for servant paid to cast Hillary in a bad untrustworthy light.

  147. “So what if the little boys poke more sticks at her, she is no coward nor does she back down.”
    ______________________

    Shadow- I’m kinda smiling to myself… The Big Dawg has his hackles up- Assange beware- you won’t see it coming but you will definately feel it!

  148. Mrs Smith it will backfire, this will make Americans back her even more, that will make Americans blood boil, who is this little twerp to say that, why not Obama, after all its administration, Hillary only does his bidding, the buck stops with him.

  149. It seems to me what the MSM elites do not understand is that MOST AMERICANS hate the United Nations. Wish we were OUT and wish they were GONE. Years of bilking us, doing nothing, and stealing all the cash has been outed now for a long time.

    With that as the backdrop – I doubt many will support Assange’s call for Hillary to Resign. They may not like her and want her gone for other reasons, but to denounce her in favor of the Goat Fuckers who spit in our eye is doubtful.

    Unless of course, you are Brian Williams, Keith Olbermann, Katie Couric and all the other traitors who prop up Soros, Obama and the UN with a pole.

  150. Well, if they had a bit of biometric spying going on in the Afghanistan situation, Obama people would not have run into that Taliban impostor.

  151. moononpluto
    November 30th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    moon, you have a 6th sense about things. I believe Bill is standing broad and tall behind Hillary and he is effing furious… He will use every bit of influence, his friendships and power to corner this devil doing the Great Satan’s (Soros) bidding. I hope while he’s at it, he rids the world of Soros once and for all. Bill would be doing the people of the world a favor if it is arranged at a later date. There won’t be a tear shed for this monster’s demise.

  152. I’m wondering if the leaks on banks will get obama into trouble. He has cowtowed to them left and right…and maybe a little more?

  153. Mrs Smith, this may be the last straw for Bill, he could just explode it all now and say “fuck it”. After all, how much more could they try to humiliate her more than they have tried.

    There is one consideration i would make, it might be a good exit strategy for Hillary to make if she stood her ground sorted this out, then said, I’ve fixed the problem, it wasnt my fault but it is my dept, i repaired the damage for America and in the interest of good relations continuing with the world, i will be taking a break in the interest of America and am leaving the SoS post but this is not leaving in any way other than the right way, I’m still Hillary, I will be back.

    It would scare the shit out of Bambi and leave her undamaged and leave her free to run if she decided to.

  154. In tomorrow’s news…

    Wednesday, 1 December 2010

    Bill Clinton: We need to save more lives – with less

    We risk losing our momentum, unless we find new ways to fill gaps left by reductions in Aids funding caused by the economic crisis

    On World Aids Day 10 years ago, as I was preparing to leave office, the world was only beginning to grasp the severity of the Aids crisis. Nearly 36 million men, women and children were living with the disease, but only about 200,000 were receiving the treatment they needed. Funding was nowhere near the levels needed to prevent the disease from reaching pandemic levels.

    Over the last decade, we have seen dramatic progress in both treatment and funding. In 2008 alone, $15bn was invested to fight Aids in developing countries, up from $6bn just three years earlier, due in large part to the US Government’s PEPFAR (President’s Emergency Plan for Aids Relief) programme.

    This summer, I witnessed one of the greatest examples of this progress when I attended the World Cup in South Africa, which has the largest number of people living with HIV/Aids in the world. For too long, the South African government did too little, but this year, it committed to testing tens of millions of South Africans and to more than double the numbers on treatment. I’m honoured that they have invited the Clinton Health Access Initiative to work alongside them to reach this goal.

    South Africa’s new actions reflect a sense of urgency and shared purpose in Africa, and in other parts of the world, that didn’t exist 10 years ago. Donor nations, the Global Fund to Fight Aids, TB and Malaria, and non-governmental organisations, including the Elton John Aids Foundation, the Gates Foundation, and many others, have provided indispensable contributions to raising consciousness, concern, and commitment to a level that will save millions of lives.

    In spite of these efforts, only one-third of people who need treatment are receiving it. We risk losing our momentum, unless we find new ways to fill the gaps left by reductions in government funding caused by the global economic crisis. And we need to save more lives with the money we do have.

    The most promising way to raise more funds is through very large numbers of small contributions which can be made in user-friendly ways. For example, France raises a lot of money every year from a service fee on airline tickets.

    The amounts raised provide much of the funding for the International Drug Purchase Facility (UNITAID,) which buys medicines to treat Aids and other diseases in poor countries. We are now trying to give airline passengers in other nations the opportunity to make small, voluntary contributions when they purchase tickets.

    In the meantime, we must do more with less. That means saving money on commodities and promoting better co-ordination of funding between donors and national governments. It means ensuring that low-cost/high-impact interventions are widely adopted, and asking donor nations to improve their own delivery systems so that a higher percentage of aid funds are spent in the beneficiary nations and on the problems they are intended to alleviate.

    My foundation has focused on lowering the cost of commodities since we began our work in 2002. Thanks to those efforts – along with the support of organisations like UNITAID, the Global Fund, PEPFAR, and the Gates Foundation – the cost of antiretroviral drug treatment (ARVs) has gone down to below $200 per person annually. The cost of CD4 tests, which allow doctors to assess how patients are responding to treatment, and other laboratory tests, has also dropped by over 50 per cent.

    But we need to break down remaining barriers – including trade agreements that prevent generic manufacturers from supplying effective ARVs for the developing world, and we need to do a better job on forecasting demand, to avoid overstocking, drug shortages, and expired inventory.

    We must co-ordinate funding flows better between donors and national governments to ensure that resources are aligned with the most pressing national priorities. We must also reduce duplication and under-investment.

    For example, the government of Rwanda has required that its implementing partners submit budget and expenditure data. From these reports, the government learned that some areas were receiving $15 per capita of external aid per year, whereas others only received $4. The Rwandan ministry of health used this data to form agreements with partners to ensure a more equitable and efficient allocation of resources. Other governments should follow Rwanda’s lead.

    We can maximise our return on investment by ensuring that low-cost/ high-impact interventions are adopted on a wider scale. For example, providing all HIV-positive people in sub-Saharan Africa with the antibiotic Co-trimoxazole – from the time that they are diagnosed – would dramatically lower mortality from common conditions such as pneumonia and diarrhoea at a cost of just $0.37 per patient, per year.

    This should be a basic standard of care. Another important intervention is the prevention of TB, which directly causes one in four deaths among HIV-positive patients. Treatments like Isoniazid prophylaxis can reduce TB infection amongst HIV patients by up to 64 per cent.

    Finally, all of us should continue to urge donor nations, as Bill Gates and I did before the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, to review their own budgets with a view to reducing overheads. If the cost of consultants from donor nations were cut, more aid could be spent on saving lives.

    These are just a few ways in which we can maximise the impact of our efforts in a period where funding isn’t keeping up with the increasing needs. We have to keep finding ways to do things better, faster, and at lower cost. For example, at our 2006 Clinton Global Initiative Meeting, Levi Strauss & Co committed to provide all of its employees and their families with access to HIV/Aids treatment, counselling, preventive care and education in more than 40 countries where the company operates.

    To date, the programme has enrolled more than 3,000 employees and managers. In 2010, their second voluntary counselling and testing campaign in South Africa has tested more than 75 per cent of their employees – one of the highest participation rates nationwide.

    This World Aids Day, in spite of the economic crisis and the increased competition for aid funds, we can continue saving more lives by giving more people a chance to help and doing more with the funds we already have.

    The writer was the 42nd President of the United States, and is founder of the William J. Clinton Foundation

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/bill-clinton-we-need-to-save-more-lives-ndash-with-less-2147827.html

  155. moon-

    “There is one consideration i would make, it might be a good exit strategy for Hillary to make if she stood her ground sorted this out, then said, I’ve fixed the problem, it wasnt my fault but it is my dept, i repaired the damage for America and in the interest of good relations continuing with the world, i will be taking a break in the interest of America and am leaving the SoS post but this is not leaving in any way other than the right way, I’m still Hillary, I will be back.”
    _____________________________

    It could be that Hillary had planned to leave right after the holidays…leaving on a high note. And what has happened, this unfortuitous leak has scuttled her plans to leave her post . Being Hillary, she would want to complete the job she started; addressing the accusations against her until she has tamed the tiger and put it to rest once and for all-

    Now that you brought up this possibility- If there are more leaks to come naming Hillary in some other clandestine activity. Something will have to be done if the leaks turn into a pariah of sorts keeping her dangling on a string preventing final closure of her tenure at state with leaks dripping away at her with no end in sight. Then this is going to be more of a problem than we thought.

    I’m sure, Bill will figure it out and take the necessary steps this time to put an end to anything that stands in Hillary’s way to the WH-

    Godspeed, Bill and Hillary Clinton-

  156. “”In the Internet age, Mrs. Clinton said, it is difficult to balance freedom and responsibility”, citing the recent case of a young man in New Jersey who committed suicide after a fellow student posted video of him in a gay tryst.

    “We’ve got to support and protect freedom of expression, whether it’s from an individual or from a journalist,” she said. “But there also have to be some rules or some sense of responsibility that has to be inculcated.””

    The above is an issue I’ve raised repeatedly here, notably as concerns freedom of speech. Regarding our freedoms as unfettered with responsibilities and the corresponding rules only makes those freedoms dangerous, for ourselves and for others. Now here, you have this fundamental truth expounded by Hillary in front of a foreign audience. We should take her words seriously and apply the principle first to ourselves.

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