Thanksgiving Holiday Miracle – Obama Smacked In Mouth

Atheists Beware! Deists have powerful new evidence that the Almighty Is Still On The Throne. It’s almost a Thanksgiving Holiday Miracle.

This proud and accomplishment blessed nation entered the long holiday weekend groped, radiated, exhausted.

The week began with international economic crises and with peace shattering deadly attacks from North Korean on South Korea. Barack Obama took to the airways, with crib notes at the ready (the TelePrompTer was on necessary holiday because Americans are noticing that even trivial announcements require presidential electronic tutoring) to announce a pardon of a pair of Thanksgiving turkeys named “Apple” and “Cider”.

At American tables thick with Thanksgiving prayers and hopefully laden with mouthwatering feasts of succulent dishes the nation celebrated yesterday. Along with the Thanksgiving prayers and silent reflections on the meaning of the holiday, millions of Americans whispered to their God a fervent wish: “Please Shut Obama’s Mouth“. Even a few seconds respite from the Obama drone of words would help sooth the oppressed nation. God Delivered.

And so it came to pass, that in the District of Columbia, a silence was delivered:

“White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the President received a dozen stitches after getting hit with an errant elbow during a Friday morning basketball game with White House aide Reggie Love and some unidentified family members at the Fort McNair military base in Washington.

A senior administration official said the cut was not caused by Love, a former player for Duke University who serves as the President’s personal assistant, but the official was still checking for more details on who caused the accident.

“After being inadvertently hit with an opposing player’s elbow in the lip while playing basketball with friends and family, the President received 12 stitches today administered by the White House Medical Unit,” said Gibbs. “They were done in the doctor’s office located on the ground floor of the White House.”

Aides said Obama was given a local anesthetic while receiving the stitches, and doctors used a smaller filament.”

Joe Biden perhaps rejoiced and considered himself temporary president while Obama was under the local anesthetic. Ordinary Americans perhaps scratched their heads and asked “Does this guy Obama ever work?” It seems as if Obama is on vacation during holidays, on vacation during the work week, on vacation on the weekends. Does he ever work?

But what was truly extraordinary is the name of another potential candidate which came up as the nation’s great benefactor in silencing Barack Obama if only for a few seconds. Here is how the conservative website HotAir explained the identity of the wonderful person:

“It’s cute that they’re pretending that they’re not sure who elbowed him even though we all know who did it. You learned a lesson today the hard way, champ: When you drive the lane on Hillary, you come strong or don’t come at all.”

Thank you Hillary, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you – woo woo woo.



Obama was indulging himself with his usual way to escape the womenfolk:

“The president had gone to nearby Fort McNair to indulge in one of his favorite athletic pursuits, a game of basketball. It was a five-on-five contest involving family and friends and including Reggie Love, Obama’s personal assistant who played at Duke University.

Obama emerged from the building after about 90 minutes of play, wearing a short-sleeve T-shirt and gym pants, and was seen dabbing at his mouth with what appeared to be a wad of gauze. A few hours later, reporters who had gathered on the White House driveway for the arrival of the Christmas tree, saw the president in an upstairs window, pressing an ice pack against his mouth before he stood and walked away. [snip]

Obama had no public events scheduled during the long holiday weekend.”

Obama is too busy to actually work. Hillary Clinton worked today:

“Beijing held phone talks with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday on the tense situation following North Korea’s deadly bombardment of a South Korean island, the Chinese foreign ministry said.”

Hillary worked, Obama golfed basketballed. Perhaps Obama was thinking of his thumping in 2010 or the thumping to come in 2012 and went to play games and escape Michelle Obama.

Whoever is responsible for the few seconds of enforced silence – we thank you. Hillary or the deity or Love – Thank you. Thank you.

In 2012, Four More Years – of Silence.

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408 thoughts on “Thanksgiving Holiday Miracle – Obama Smacked In Mouth

  1. repost from last thread:

    “The backwash onto NA could be catastrophic”
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    Kay- thanks for posting that eye opening video..JanH is right..the fellow speaking in your video is very brave. Speaking Truth to Power necessitates big cojones!

    The entire time Gordon Brown was the PM of the UK, he was the promoter for the European Union. The Treaty for the European Union was signed in Spain, I believe in 07. We were scheduled to sign near the end of 08′-However, the fly in the ointment always was Ireland. They fought against joining the EU because they didn’t see the need. Their economy was flush with jobs, new construction and a booming stock market. Things were Green as far as the eye could see. Therefore, the Irish didn’t see the need to join the EU. During their elections, the Irish government submitted a Referendum asking their voters if they wished Ireland to join the European Union. Irish citizens voted it down. When Ireland informed the EU they would not be joining them because the Irish people were against it, the EU in turn, extended their time line for signing for another year. And this is the result. Ireland needing a Bail-Out.

    Just that fact alone, leads me to believe there must have been serious money market manipulation going on in Irish markets by a certain someone (Soros) to bring their booming economy to it’s knees.

    The Irish technically saved us from joining the EU when the EU extended their signing time for another year. That meant the EU had to float their false economic balloon for another year to get the US and Ireland on board with their nefarious scheme. Apparently, the EU couldn’t keep their fraudulent economic balloon aloft long enough to perpetuate the ruse to conclusion. Now many european countries are in financial distress. If the US had signed on with the EU, we would have been forced to give up our sovereignty as a Nation and be subject to a new Constitution which as the EU required removal of our individual sovereign rights and subject us to the laws created by the European Union.

    Now, whatever we see happening in Europe would have been happening to us if we had signed on with the EU. My feeling is we avoided a bullet thanks to Ireland. Our dollar would have been rendered worthless and by the same token seriously debilitated any chance for our financial recovery.

    So, I think the spillover to us from Ireland and Spain will be minimal.

    This is but another one of Soros’ objectives that has been thwarted- Oh- Happy Day!

    Maybe it wasn’t an elbow that gave Obama a gash requiring 12 stitches. It might have been a PO’d someone leveling a left hook at him, when he wasn’t looking because he FAILED once again to get the job done for Soros-

  2. Admin: Funny article, but true! We are glad he won’t be able to talk for a while. 12 stitches seem like a lot, but heck I don’t know. That had to be a good solid hit. LOL! Awh, was Michelle at the game??? She looks like she could throw a left that good! This is funnier than Bush’s bicycle/chip stories!

    What is it with these guys? I never remember Bill C getting whacked, although somehow he did hurt his knee, I can’t remember why?

  3. Will North Korea Make Obama Blink?

    By Larry Johnson on November 26, 2010 at 4:48 PM in Current Affairs
    Is the joint U.S/South Korea military exercise scheduled to commence later this week a response to North Korea’s artillery shellacking last week of an island controlled by South Korea? No. It is simply a serendipitious coincidence.

    How do I know? Planning for any kind of military exercise, especially one that involves actual ground forces from two or more countries, begins 18 months before the actual event. In other words, the IPC aka Initial Planning Conference for this exercise was in April or May of 2009. The IPC is followed six to twelve months later by a Mid Planning Conference (MPC) and then, a month or two before the exercise, a Final Planning Conference.

    This is not something that PACOM (Pacific Command) whipped up overnight as a way to rattle sabers. In fact, North Korea’s strike on South Korea was probably intended to disrupt or force the cancellation of the exercise.

    North Korea is not the only one trying to test the mettle of Barack Obama. Chinese anyone? (read the full article here at the WSJ)

    China made its first official protest over plans by the U.S. and South Korea to hold joint military exercises involving the aircraft carrier USS George Washington in the Yellow Sea on Sunday. . . .

    The U.S. and South Korea announced the exercises Wednesday, after North Korea fired artillery at a South Korean island near their disputed maritime border, killing two South Korean marines and two civilians.

    At a routine briefing on Thursday, Mr. Hong had said only that China was “concerned” over reports about the joint exercises.

    The U.S. and South Korea have not said exactly where the exercises will take place, but one high-level South Korean official said they would be off South Korea’s southwest coast, far from the disputed maritime border with North Korea.

    Back in July, Chinese officials said they opposed any military exercises in the entire Yellow Sea, and protested so vociferously that the U.S. and South Korea shifted their maneuvers to the Sea of Japan, east of South Korea.

    Those exercises followed the sinking of a South Korean ship in March which killed 46 sailors and was blamed on North Korea by an international investigation, although China has refused to accept those findings.

    This time, the U.S. and South Korea are pressing ahead with their plans in what U.S. officials say is a strong signal not just to North Korea, but also to China, its old Communist ally and key sponsor.

    This is one of those cases where the U.S. needs to continue with the exercise and not worry for one minute what North Korea or China thinks about the matter.

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    I am still amazed this incident took place and our manchildnchief just simply went to play basketball, WTH??? I would think he would be at the WH on the phone calling everybody and their brother to start a Think Tank Task Force, but I think he will just appoint a Spokesman Czar for the communication part to just give him highlights in between basketball games!! This man disgust me and the world is not afraid of us..the challenges will keep coming bc we have a leader that wants to disarm us. We The People should start a Czar ourself to GET O OUT OF THE DAMN WHITE HOUSE NOW!!

  4. The satirical “Onion”, which made the video mocking Obama’s turkey pardon, does it again:

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/frustrated-obama-sends-nation-rambling-75000word-e,18516/

    Having admittedly “reached the end of [his] rope,” President Barack Obama sent a rambling 75,000-word e-mail to the entire nation Wednesday, revealing deep frustrations with America’s political culture, his presidency, U.S. citizens, and himself.

    The president’s e-mail also CC’d a number of world leaders.

    The e-mail, which was titled “A couple things,” addressed countless topics in a dense, stream-of-consciousness rant that often went on for hundreds of words without any punctuation or paragraph breaks. Throughout, the president expressed his aggravation on subjects as disparate as the war in Afghanistan, the sluggish economic recovery, his live-in mother-in-law, China’s undervalued currency, Boston’s Logan Airport, and tort reform.

    According to its timestamp, the e-mail was sent at 4:26 a.m.

    “Hey Everyone,” read the first line of the president’s note, which at 27 megabytes proved too large for millions of Americans’ in-boxes. “I’m writing to you because I need to clear up some important issues. First and foremost, I want to say that this has nothing to do with the midterm elections because I was going to send an e-mail regardless of the outcome. However, I guess one could argue that, in the end, the midterms are an important measure of a president’s overall success, though I wouldn’t go so far as to call the results a referendum. Legislatively, I feel I’ve had a lot of success that I think history will judge quite favorably. I mean, pretty much every modern president has seen his party lose seats during a midterm, you know?

    “Anyway,” the e-mail continued.

    A 150-page printout confirms that while Obama’s points are generally cogent in the first quarter of the message, the increasingly chaotic spacing, multiple spelling errors, and near total lack of commas rendered the later portions almost impossible to parse.

    Excerpts indicate an erratic use of capitalized and underlined words, with the phrase “Stopped a second Great Depression” mentioned 14 times in a bolded red font double the size of surrounding text. In addition, the e-mail contained multiple links to the Wikipedia entry for Social Security and line graphs of Ronald Reagan’s year-by-year approval ratings.

    Because Obama copied and pasted some critical passages directly from right-wing editorials and personal blogs, the e-mail included formatting irregularities that caused many citizens to receive a message in which all of the apostrophes were replaced with question marks. Moreover, some software flagged it as spam.

    “I don?t mean to be rude, but I thought we were all on the samepage about helath care reform,” the 29th paragraph of Obama’s e-mail read in part. “It was part of my platform. You all knew I was goingt o pursue it when you elected me. And just real fast, going back on what I said earlier, the economic stimulus cut taxes for 95% of Americans. It didn’t raise them. It cut them. You people need to look at facts and stop litnening to all the right wing crap out there. By the way, we’re basically out of Iraq now. You?re welcome.”

    “JESUS CHRIST, WE LOST OVER @ MILLION JOBS BEFOREE I EVEN TOOK OFFICE!!!11!” reads a sentence occupying a large white space between two massive chunks of texts, one of which was a 6,500-word tangent on the Muslim community center being built two blocks from the former World Trade Center site.

    According to White House sources, Obama “snapped” late Tuesday afternoon when a staffer reminded him he was scheduled to take a call from incoming Speaker of the House John Boehner. At that point, a visibly disgusted Obama was observed slowly repeating the words “House Speaker Boehner” before ordering everyone to leave the Oval Office, where he sat typing and, according to some, banging angrily on his keyboard for the next five hours.

    When White House Chief of Staff Pete Rouse urged the president to sleep on the e-mail, Obama told him he had already sent it.

    “In terms of fulfilling campaign promises I think I’ve actually done a pretty good job in terms of fulfilling campaign,” Obama wrote in response to an anonymous comment made to a post by conservative blogger Michelle Malkin. “I know I said I’d close Guantanamo and I sti5ill want to do that but it’s harder than it looks. And yes I know I said it would be done by now along with energy reform too—-trust me it is still a priority because “TOGETHER WE CAN & MUST EMBRACE CLEAN ENERGY””

    “Yes we can!” the e-mail concluded. “Ugh, you know what? Forget it. Believe what you want. Yours, Barack.”

    Thus far the response from the American public has been subdued, though a sixth of the populace did not even receive the e-mail because the message generated 50 million mailer-daemon delivery failure notifications.

    “I tried reading [Obama’s] e-mail, but it was just way too long,” said 48-year-old Sophia Washington of Moraine, OH, adding that because her computer displayed the text all on one line, she had to scroll from left to right in order to read it. “I just ended up skimming to see if my name was in there. It wasn’t, but I did notice that my daughter can stay on my insurance for one more year. That’s great. I think that’s because the Republicans won the midterms.”

  5. Admin – Re: The Onion – that’s funny as hell, and sadly, easily imaginable.

    Thanks for posting!

    I hope you and everyone here had a great Thanksgiving with family and friends.

    AS for Obama’s Phat Lip. Well…I’ll leave it to Moononpluto to expound some more! LOL

  6. Hillary is working the phones today talking to everyone about the Wikileaks and keeping North Korea and South Korea from starting a war while Nero goes basketballing and we would of never known had this hispanic guy not socked Obama in the snout. Now Obama won’t be able to talk for a while…guess that’s why he sat in front of the window so he could get worldwide sympathy for his painful lip. Poor little Bambi!

  7. Our Presidential Turkey is in stitches……….the only thing better would be for the doc to stitch the lips together and give us all a good rest from his endless read fests, and I would like to see a good color photo of those stitches. I bet even MO is happy he will shut up for awhile.

    After all, this is Black Friday isn’t it?
    Now it’s quiet black Friday.

    Oooops did I say that? Sorry. 😉

  8. Isn’t it kind of dangerous for him to be standing in front of a window? I would think that his Security Detail would not have allowed that.

  9. NMF, He has to have sympathy…he’s is a whiner!

    If you haven’t read Lamecherry’s explaination of the cut lip….go read it…but brace yourself and don’t have your mouth full of a drink cause your going to spew it across the screen LOL!

  10. I start my marathon shift in the morning at 7 am to noon on Sunday, if I’m still alive I will check back in sometime Sunday. The posts on lipgate are truly funny!

  11. Obama’s benefactor, George Soros who would like nothing more than seeing America destroyed. Soros has through his American Progress Org, essentialy proposed the signing of 30 executive actions by Obama most of them written to remove power from individual states, including their day to day business activities to be subject to Federal and UN mandates:

    Agenda 21 and ICLEI

    ICLEI is the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, or Local Governments for Sustainability and UN accredited Non Governmental Organization (NGO) that implements the Action Plan of Agendas.

    The city of Spokane, WA. is addressing this coming socialist agenda proposed by Soros. Here is a small excerpt. The entire article can be read at the link.

    Media Release
    4/8/10

    SPOKANE, WASHINGTON……Members of Spokane Patriots, the action driven the Tea Party, will be filing several citizens’ initiatives with the Spokane City Clerk at 4:00 PM, Thursday, 8 April.

    The first citizens’ initiative would effect a charter amendment regarding preventing the city from implementing aspects of the Mayor’s sustainability task force by preventing the city from adopting any regulations, taxation, or other policies which would be targeted specifically towards modifying greenhouse gas emissions. (the Soros Cap n Trade Scam)

    The second citizens’ initiative would effect a charter amendment relating to preventing membership in and relationships with the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI), the United Nations, and other organizations undermining United States Sovereignty.

    more:

    h….w…
    freedomadvocates.org/articles/sustainable_development/kick_iclei_out!_20100410407/

    * Cities pay dues in order to obtain direction from ICLEI in establishing local policy and law. (This is a violation of the Constitution, Article 1, Section 10: “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance or Confederation… etc.”)
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    You can read Soros’ innocuous sounding pdf document until you become fearful of what it does not say rather than what it says:

    THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT
    Proposing 30 executive actions

    h… w… americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf
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    As Obama is seen enjoying free time playing basketball and taking expensive vacations at taxpayer expense never fear, Soros is on the job creating more government controls involving us though our states and local municipalities.

  12. I disagree completely with you here. Leaking sensitive state department cables is not akin to shining light on it. State department cables are supposed to be confidential. This allows for candid assessments of foreign governments and leaders. This is not supposed to be made public. What wiki leaks has done is wrong as it serves no good purpose other than to embarass the US.
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    Thanks Rickya. As a general proposition I agree with you. When the Frank Church Committee released the names of CIA officers and US operatives in the 1970’s I made the exact same argument that you are making now. In this case however we are dealing with a rogue president who is in the hip pocket of Soros, and is pushing an agenda which is inimical to the interests of the American People. Consequently, I come down on the side of full disclosure in this particular instance. I see it as an exception to the rule which I generally agree with. The question is hypothetical until we see what those leaks actually are.

  13. Breaking: Oregon man charged with plotting vehicle bomb attack on Portland Christmas tree lighting ceremony

    FBI, Portland Police arrested man tonight after they say he tried to detonate what he thought was van packed with explosives, Officials say man, naturalized US citizen from Somalia, had been under surveillance for months and explosives were inert. The van the 19-year-old suspect allegedly tried to detonate was parked near tonight’s tree lighing at Portland’s Pioneer Square.

    Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, accused of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.

    ………………………………

    So hows that religion of peace working out for you………lets see how long it takes for Turndown to post some 282 (circa) word rebuttal.

  14. Only 12 stitches? Why stop with the lip when you could have sewn up the entire mouth? That would have been much better for the country.

  15. Maybe the Somali Pirates wouldn’t let him join their team?

    He does fit the profile of actual ME terrorists anyway. Which most Muslims from most parts of the world don’t fit. So how did this fellow get to be a US citizen?

    Since much of the real action here was an FBI sting, maybe they will produce tapes to back up all their allegations.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fbi_thwarts_terrorist_bombing.html

    65 words here. And it’s not a rebuttal. It’s not at GZ either. But thanks for knowing a rebuttal from a refutation.

  16. 65 words here = here in my post.

    The Brit Secret Service should run a sting about someone trying to blow up Guy Fawkes Day.

    I need less latte.

  17. You all have a good time for the rest of the weekend…I’m off to work….as my daughter who is an Ultrasound tech says “Tis the season for gallbladders and deep vein thombosis” and I have to add “falling off ladders while putting up Christmas lights”. Keep Obama’s toes to the fire!

  18. Only 12 stitches? Why stop with the lip when you could have sewn up the entire mouth? That would have been much better for the country.
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    My thoughts exactly. It might even reduce the global warming problem. The Christmas tree reveler was an Obama voter for sure. Probably a shirt tail relative to bomber Bill Ayers. Obama has the unique ability to bring the cockroaches out of the woodwork while he is destroying the country.

  19. So obama is making a speech on Afghanistan on Tuesday. Even teletubby can’t help him this time.

    Should be interesting.

  20. Airport Security Parody
    Red State

    Pejman Yousefzadeh has a great post on airport security. You’ve probably seen similar things.

    Throughout the country the full body x-ray machines were turned off for travel the day before Thanksgiving and have largely been unused for several days.

    Now, the TSA says there is no official policy, but it seems hard to believe it is sheer coincidence that on the busiest travel days of the year at the largest airports across the country the full body scanners were just . . . randomly?. . . turned off.

    In fact, we can be certain the TSA did it to overcome what they feared would be an organized movement to take the full body pat down combined with the high volume of traffic in general.

    With that being the case, why have the full body scanners and pat downs? If they aren’t needed on the busiest travel days of the year — the days terrorists would target for maximum collateral damage — why have them at all?

    Again, it is worth pointing out that every incident to which the TSA has responded by increasing the security theater have originated from airports overseas and not subject to the TSA’s airport security theater.

    By the way, you should be reading Pejman regularly.

  21. Karl Rove giving Sarah Palin advise?
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    Rove: Palin tour in Iowa ‘smart,’ but she has to reach outside GOP ranks

    By Bridget Johnson – 11/26/10

    GOP strategist Karl Rove doesn’t think Sarah Palin’s reality show will earn her any points for a presidential run, but said Friday that putting three of her 16 book tour stops in Iowa is “a smart thing to do.”

    Palin is hitting the road, including in the early presidential state, to promote her new book “America By Heart: Reflections on Family, Faith and Flag.”

    “It gives her an excuse to be there as something other than a candidate, which is really important,” Rove said on Fox News.

    “That’s a pretty smart move if you’re thinking about running for president,” he added.

    As there’s no love lost between the former Alaska governor and President George W. Bush’s onetime senior adviser, Rove went on to say that Palin had difficultly expanding beyond a “paint-me-red Republican.”

    “She’s got a problem with independents and a problem with Democrats, and over the course of the next year, like all of the Republican candidates, she’s got to demonstrate that she has an ability to unify the Republicans and reach outside the Republican ranks,” Rove said.

    “I mean, in 1980 this was a key test for President Reagan when he ran for the presidential nomination and he demonstrated he can unify the party and that he had a special appeal outside the Republican Party’s so-called Reagan Democrats,” he added, stressing that Republicans want to win in 2012 and want a candidate who can draw voters from outside the party.

    2 more pgs at link:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/130755-rove-palin-tour-in-iowa-smart-but-she-has-to-reach-outside-gop-ranks

  22. Hopefully, that smack in the mouth will shut him up for a couple of days.

    I think it’s wonderful though, that he has that free golden health insurance paid for by the people he shafted with his Health Care Reform. It will pay for that plastic surgeon if he has a scar to repair.

  23. If I were a foreign leader, and was reluctant to trust Obama BEFORE the wikileaks, I would be doubly reluctant to do so thereafter for obvious reasons. And I would ask myself why this problem never occurred in any prior American Administration or any government on the planet on this scale until B Hussein Obama took office. It speaks volumes about his incompetence, and is lack of leadership. Security is the first duty of any government, whereas his idea of security is to let sensitive communications get out, while groping American citizens at airport. What a loser he is.

  24. drum roll, please! One more for the unemployment line-
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    Emanuel’s mayoral bid challenged by election lawyer
    Rahm Emanuel doesn’t meet residency requirements and therefore can’t legally run for mayor, says a Chicago attorney who specializes in election law and who filed a challenge to Emanuel’s mayoral bid Friday.

    Burt Odelson, who is representing two city residents in making the challenge before the Chicago Board of Elections, alleges President Obama’s former chief of staff has run afoul of Illinois Municipal Code.

    State law requires mayoral candidates to be city residents for a year before an election, he said. The only exception is for active-duty members of the military.

    “Emanuel was not a resident under the state statutes for one year prior to the election — the election being Feb. 22 [of next year]. He would have had to have had a residence since Feb. 22 of 2010,” Odelson said while delivering the challenge Friday.

    Emanuel moved his family to Washington D.C. — and rented out his house — while he served in the White House the past two years. By doing so, Rahm gave up his residency, Odelson said.

    “The law says you have to have a physical presence, not just intent,” Odelson told reporters. “It’s the physical presence, it’s where your wife lives, it’s where your children live, it’s where your children go to school.”

    Odelson has requested the board expedite a hearing on the issue. He predicts the case will eventually be decided by the Illinois Supreme Court.

    Emanuel has argued he is a bona fide Chicago resident and never intended to give up that status. He pays property taxes on the family’s North Side home even though a renter lives there.

    While Emanuel was in California Friday spending the Thanksgiving holiday with family, his campaign organized a conference call with reporters during which Richard Prendergast, former head of the Chicago Bar Association, said Emanuel has clearly established Chicago as his home, and has never relinquished his residency.

    “The temporary move to Washington to conduct government business is clearly covered by the statute,” Prendergast said.

    U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Evanston) also weighed in during the conference call, describing the objection as “frivolous” and the work of political “insiders” using “legal tricks.”

    “Rahm should not be punished for responding to the call of the president,” she said. “. . . The insiders are doing what they always do — trying to deny Chicago voters a choice in this election.”

    Emanuel and Obama have also used similar techniques to try to knock opponents off the ballot. In 2004, Emanuel challenged whether attorney Mark Fredrickson, who was running against him for Congress, had started collecting signatures to get on the ballot too soon.

    Although Odelson has put his legal might behind the challenge, he is actually representing two clients in the objection: attorney Walter P. Maksym and retired Chicago police officer Thomas L. McMahon — clients who Odelson solicited through his website.

    Maksym, who has represented gun owners and accused murderer Drew Peterson on a home loan case, said he is trying to knock Emanuel off the ballot “to uphold respect for the rule of law and the integrity of the election process.’’

    Nine other objections to Emanuel’s bid were filed Friday — bringing the total to 15 filed to date.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/2924930,rahm-emanuel-mayoral-bid-challenges-112610.article

  25. “U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Evanston) also weighed in during the conference call, describing the objection as “frivolous” and the work of political “insiders” using “legal tricks.”
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    “Using legal tricks?” The Chicago Combine i.e. Axelrod, Emanuel, Jarret, Blagovich and last but not least, OBAMA wrote the book on election tricks.

    How Does it Feel, Rahm?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6x-59HMnwE

  26. Confloyd: Wikileaks coming soon…. to a computer near you! 😆
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    Wikileaks release: in Russia, fear of damage to future US relations

    By Fred Weir, Correspondent / November 26, 2010

    As Wikileaks prepares to release millions of confidential cables, Russian diplomats worry about their ability to talk frankly in the future – while some politicians and anti-Kremlin activists are concerned about private conversations.
    Moscow

    Wikileaks is about to drop its biggest-ever bombshell – some 2.7-million confidential diplomatic cables from US embassies around the world – and, although US credibility is likely to take the worst hit, much of the collateral damage may end up in Moscow.

    “Among the countries whose politicians feature in the reports are Russia, Afghanistan, and former Soviet republics in Central Asia. But other reports also detail potentially embarrassing allegations reported to Washington from US diplomats in other regions, including East Asia and Europe,” Reuters reported Thursday, noting that this huge document dump is expected as early as next week.

    Dispatches sent by embassy workers often contain detailed accounts of private conversations with local politicians, businesspeople, journalists, dissidents, academics and public figures. The anticipated blizzard of dispatches from the US Embassy in Moscow to Washington is likely to publicly reveal the raw workings of US diplomacy on the ground and its range of contacts within Russian society. It may also detail the process by which the State Department forms its judgments about the Kremlin and its policies.

    Some sensitive topics may include corruption among Russia’s top politicians, details of political infighting, deeply critical views expressed to US diplomats by Russians in the opposition, as well as unflattering portraits of Kremlin leaders and their habits.

    Russian diplomats contacted Friday said they don’t expect the contents to be sensational or politically damaging to the Kremlin, but suggest that the breach of confidentiality might do untold damage to future US-Russian relations.

    “As a diplomatic researcher, I must say that I’m really curious to see this material,” says Yevgeny Bazhanov, deputy rector of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s Diplomatic Academy, which trains Russian diplomats.

    “But it will undoubtedly hurt the relationship. It’s not that we’ll find out that our American colleagues were critical of us in their dispatches – we know that already – but that all these raw materials, including frank private conversations, will spill into the open. How can we talk candidly with our American colleagues in future if we don’t know who’s going to read it tomorrow?”

    Wikileaks previous releases of massive troves of secret US documents from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were intensively covered in the Western media, and got front-page attention in Russia as well.

    Thanks to the Kremlin’s near-total stranglehold on Russia’s major media outlets, that is not likely to happen if the next round of revelations proves to be embarrassing to Russia. But Russia’s former ambassador to Belgium, Dmitry Ryurikov, says it is nevertheless going to roil the diplomatic waters, perhaps for years to come.

    “This is a ticklish issue, and it might cause damage to relations, scandal, refutations, and even lead to lawsuits,” he says. “There are some documents that are not meant to be made public; that is a matter of strict confidentiality and ethics. One group of people might read them and say, ‘We told you that [the Americans] can not be trusted,’ and another group might say, ‘we always knew that these people [who talk privately with US diplomats] are rascals who are ready to sell out’ their country,” he says.

    Some Russian politicians and anti-Kremlin activists may have reasons to fear seeing their private conversations with US diplomats being splashed all over cyberspace, say experts.

    “Diplomats talk to people and send cables home, that’s what they do,” says Alexander Konovalov, president of the independent Institute for Strategic Assessments in Moscow. “Sometimes they report on a single conversation, sometimes they describe aggregated discussions. But I think even with no names, it will be possible [for Russian security agencies] to trace a person they have talked to. In our country, such a person may well face accusations and moral condemnations.”

    Hearsay, misinterpretation

    The damage will be done even if the contents of a particular cable are based on hearsay or misinterpretation on the part of the diplomat who wrote it, Mr. Ryurikov says.

    “Once I had a chance to have a look at a report of one European diplomat about a private conversation we’d had,” he says. “I was surprised to see that it was distorted. I happened to meet him a couple of years later, and conveyed my feelings to him. He blushed and said it was his ambassador who made some corrections for some reasons of his own…. These things are always very delicate and potentially explosive.”

    State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told journalists Thursday that the US government has long known that Wikileaks is in possession of secret diplomatic cables, and is bracing itself for a storm.

    “We are gearing up for the worst-case scenario, that leaked cables will touch on a wide range of issues and countries,” he said.

    “We are in touch with our posts around the world. They have begun the process of informing governments that a release of documents is possible in the near future…. These revelations are going to create tensions on our relationships between our diplomats and our friends around the world,” Mr. Crowley added.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1126/Wikileaks-release-in-Russia-fear-of-damage-to-future-US-relations

  27. Obama and his Homeland Security Nazis (wbb)are up in arms. The feeling is his security teams especially Janet Napolitano are being groped and heavily patted down, having to drop their drawers of deception publicly because of Wikileaks. boo-hoo 🙂
    ___________________________________

    Julian Assange: the hacker who created WikiLeaks

    Julian Assange has started WikiLeaks to promote what he calls ‘scientific journalism.’ WikiLeaks released 90,000 classified documents about the war in Afghanistan Sunday.

    By Scott Bland, July 26, 2010

    The man behind WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, is coming in for both praise and criticism after his classified information clearinghouse published thousands of secret military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan Sunday.

    Mr. Assange’s work is much better known than he is. The newest leaks have uncovered evidence about a number of things previously reported but not confirmed, including:

    • Numerous incidents of American forces killing innocent Afghan civilians.

    • The existence of a secret unit of American special forces tasked with killing or capturing top Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders.

    • Worries among US officials that elements of Pakistani intelligence were aiding the Taliban.

    However, the documents have also sparked renewed interest in the WikiLeaks founder, whose roots as a computer hacker inform his ethos, which he terms “scientific journalism” – a desire to get to underlying facts by turning to encyclopedic volumes of raw material.

    Assange was born in northeast Australia in 1971 and lived a nomadic life in his early years. According to a profile of Assange in a June issue of The New Yorker, he and his mother moved 37 times before he turned 15. With conventional education rendered impossible, Assange self-taught at libraries and learned to program on early PCs.

    Programming quickly became hacking once Assange got an Internet connection, and soon he was accessing government networks and bank mainframes. He was arrested in 1991 and charged with more than 30 criminal counts related to his hacking. Facing as many as 10 years in prison, Assange struck a plea deal.

    During sentencing, the judge ruled that Assange only had to pay a fine. Assange’s hacks were not malicious; they were the harmless result of “inquisitive intelligence,” said the judge.

    The same “look/see” mentality that drove Assange’s hacking now drives WikiLeaks. Assange described his organization to The New Yorker as “scientific journalism,” comparing it to biology researchers publishing their data sets along with their papers. In recapping a talk by Assange at London’s Center for Investigative Journalism earlier this month, a reporter for the British newspaper The Guardian cheekily pointed out that “if Assange was producing this article, he would post the rambling hour-and-a-half talk he delivers” instead of quoting from it.

    “Journalism should be more like science,” Assange told The Guardian. “As far as possible, facts should be verifiable.”

    Though Assange’s most recent, well-known projects have had an antiwar bent – the recent Afghan war leaks, the infamous “collateral murder” video of a US helicopter crew gunning down a group that included two Reuters journalists in Iraq – his site does not appear to have an obvious ideology beyond exposing secrets.

    In other projects, Assange published a trove of text messages sent in the US on September 11, 2001, and e-mails from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, which led many to believe that scientists were suppressing anti-global warming research and results.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2010/0726/Julian-Assange-the-hacker-who-created-WikiLeaks

  28. How lucky can this bastard get.. this is the time he should be picking up the phone to talk to China, S. Korea, and who know who others when the wikileaks hit? But he has 12 stitches on his mouth and can’t talk.. An indisposed president when the country needs him the most and a perfect cover for his incompetence.

  29. This is quite disturbing, you should not be able to fire someone, strip them of security clearance and blacklist them and not tell them why? This is just plain weird.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/26/AR2010112605034.html

    U.S. strips intelligence analyst of security clearance and job but won’t say why

    On St. Patrick’s Day 2009, the government stripped the Irish-born Dullahan’s security clearance and fired him from his job at the Defense Intelligence Agency in a manner that has no precedent at the Pentagon – invoking a national security clause that states that it would harm the interests of the United States to inform him of the accusations against him.

    As a result, Dullahan, a Vietnam veteran who served at military posts around the world and as a U.N. weapons inspector in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, cannot appeal to a board of senior agency officials, as others in his position might. He is, in effect, stranded.

  30. I mean that is pure fascism, hey, your fired, your life destroyed but you cannot question us why? Its real 1984 stuff.

  31. A super BIG thank you, Mr. Assange for the revealing the ClimateGate scam- You saved global citzens from being taken for a boodle by the Al Gore/George Soros Cap and Trade swindle.
    _____________________________

    “In other projects, Assange published a trove of text messages sent in the US on September 11, 2001, and e-mails from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, which led many to believe that scientists were suppressing anti-global warming research and results.”

  32. moononpluto
    November 27th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    I mean that is pure fascism, hey, your fired, your life destroyed but you cannot question us why? Its real 1984 stuff.
    ________________________

    Yep- and you’ll lose if you take it to court. No recourse, life ruined and never be eligible for legitimate employment again. Unless, he contacts Mr Assange and gets access to his file- however-

  33. The looniest part is, they fired him as a national security threat, yet his wife has access to top secret material, who did he upset to get black bagged?

  34. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told journalists Thursday that the US government has long known that Wikileaks is in possession of secret diplomatic cables, and is bracing itself for a storm.

    “We are gearing up for the worst-case scenario, that leaked cables will touch on a wide range of issues and countries,” he said.

    “We are in touch with our posts around the world. They have begun the process of informing governments that a release of documents is possible in the near future…. These revelations are going to create tensions on our relationships between our diplomats and our friends around the world,” Mr. Crowley added.
    ——————————
    Sounds to me like Obama has the situation well in hand. Excellent damage control. The world will be grateful for his tireless efforts. Damned that little Mexican with his flying elbow on the basketball court. But for that little . . . mishap (let us hope Michelle has a good alibi) I am sure the great one would clear the air on this and say wikileaks begone. Meanwhile the world is bracing for his monumental, earthshaking, defining, Periclean speech on Afghanistan. Wake me up when it is over, and pardon me if I start snoring.

  35. Looks like Obama is making a move on seizing the internet……soon you will have no rights.

    The investigative arm of the Homeland Security Department appears to be shutting down websites that facilitate copyright infringement.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has seized dozens of domain names over the past few days, according to TorrentFreak.

    ICE appears to be targeting sites that help Internet users download copyrighted music, as well as sites that sell bootleg goods, such as fake designer handbags.

    The sites are replaced with a note from the government: “This domain named has been seized by ICE, Homeland Security Investigations.”

    For instance, 2009jersey.com, 51607.com, and amoyhy.com have each been seized.

    One of the site owners told TorrentFreak that his site was shut down without any notice or warning.

    The effort come as Congress considers the Combatting Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA). Critics, including Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) say it is too heavy-handed. He has vowed to put a formal hold on the bill.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/130763-homeland-security-dept-seizes-domain-names-

  36. As a general rule, raw data should not see the light of day. It is chalk full of hearsay, opinions and revelations which could be harmful to individuals and nations. In fact this is one of the things which the FBI guards jealously. But the standard in journalism is different. The first amendment prevails, absent the yelling fire in a crowded theater. He calls this dump scientific journalism, and there is a colorable argument for it. It starts with the premise that big media in this country does not tell the truth to the American People. Instead, it censors critical informntion which does not conform to its narrative and it uses what it knows for purposes which border on blackmail. To the extent that is true, there is a good reason to see the raw data. There is much at stake here on both sides. I do think it will cause a lack of trust with foreign leaders but that lack of trust was probably there to begin with given the behavior of this Administration. If it were my call I would not release this information, but it is not my call, so I am perfectly content to be a spectator and watch the rats scramble. I know the ambassador to Luxemebourg and doubt she will have a problem. Russia, China, France, Britain, Australia, Germany, Pakistan et. al, may be a different story. This will be interesting to watch.

  37. moononpluto
    November 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    The looniest part is, they fired him as a national security threat, yet his wife has access to top secret material, who did he upset to get black bagged?
    ___________________

    Most likely answer: His wife- (Occam’s Razor)

  38. JanH
    November 27th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    If nothing else comes of this, I really hope that the latest wikileaks tears a strip off obama.
    _____________________

    Can you imagine if they have Blackberry’s from Obama or have him on tape calling the Russians assho***?

    Oh, boy!

  39. “Can you imagine if they have Blackberry’s from Obama or have him on tape calling the Russians assho***?

    Oh, boy!”

    More likely, he’ll be calling HRC a BE-ach and Achy a dear friend.

  40. Krugman Nov 21:

    More and more, it’s becoming clear that progressives who had their hearts set on Obama were engaged in a huge act of self-delusion. Once you got past the soaring rhetoric you noticed, if you actually paid attention to what he said, that he largely accepted the conservative storyline, a view of the world, including a mythological history, that bears little resemblance to the facts.

    And confronted with a situation utterly at odds with that storyline … he stayed with the myth.

  41. Some recent Krugman columns linked from
    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/fdr-reagan-and-obama/

    The World as Obama Finds It
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    President Obama was not, it turns out, prepared to deal with the world he faced when he took office. And it still seems as if he isn’t.

    The Hijacked Commission
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    A process meant to deal with the nation’s long-run fiscal problems has been hijacked on behalf of an ideological agenda.

  42. wbboei
    November 27th, 2010 at 1:37 am

    Thanks Rickya. As a general proposition I agree with you. When the Frank Church Committee released the names of CIA officers and US operatives in the 1970’s I made the exact same argument that you are making now. In this case however we are dealing with a rogue president who is in the hip pocket of Soros, and is pushing an agenda which is inimical to the interests of the American People. Consequently, I come down on the side of full disclosure in this particular instance. I see it as an exception to the rule which I generally agree with. The question is hypothetical until we see what those leaks actually are.

    I still don’t agree. Even in this particular case, I don’t agree that sensitive information should be leaked. If they were able to get hold of similar records from other countries, then I would agree that disclosure is better than no disclosure. However, in this case, it is only the US that is put under this situation, no one else. This puts the US at a great disadvantage as it will compromise contacts in other countries that are being monitored. I can’t be perfectly content, as you put it watching the rats scramble when the rats that will do the scrambling is only from one country.

  43. rickya
    November 27th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    ——————

    I totally agree with you. And are there not any legal ramifications that can be thrown at wikileaks? I honestly don’t understand how they are able to do this and still not be charged under international law.

    If someone can explain this to me I would really appreciate it.

  44. I still don’t agree. Even in this particular case, I don’t agree that sensitive information should be leaked. If they were able to get hold of similar records from other countries, then I would agree that disclosure is better than no disclosure. However, in this case, it is only the US that is put under this situation, no one else. This puts the US at a great disadvantage as it will compromise contacts in other countries that are being monitored. I can’t be perfectly content, as you put it watching the rats scramble when the rats that will do the scrambling is only from one country.
    ——————————————-
    That is fine. I did not expect you to agree with my observation. And I noted as much in my initial comment to Jan. It is immaterial now because the cat is out of the bag. But whether it is this or something else, the public needs to hear the truth rather than managed news. The truth is always messy. I want to know what is really going on. I would rather have raw facts than the censorship and spin you get for the Obama people or their allies in big media. And if you believe as I do that people like Soros are calling the shots with this administration then it may be a case of ex malo bonum. One thing I will grant you is disclosure of this magnitude is unprecedented and on the odds it will put the lie to all this hope and change crap he and his big media henchmen have been peddling to the unsuspecting. Also, it will rend in all directions. To get to the truth, I am willing to take that risk. I understand that most people are not.

    On a related topic, Hillary has written a piece for Foreign Affairs Magazine this month outlining her vision for a new approach to foreign policy. It is an interesting read.

  45. How is poor booboo today, still holding his lip and asking mommy michelle to kiss it better.

    My Mother dropped twins and got right back up and did the laundry, what a wimp, Obama is.

  46. How is poor booboo today, still holding his lip and asking mommy michelle to kiss it better.

    My Mother dropped twins and got right back up and did the laundry, what a wimp, Obama is.

    ———————————–
    moon–I believe Reggie Love is the one who is providing the mouth to mouth resuscitation on Messiah Obama. Just think of it. Messiah Obama took one on the kisser for our sins. How unselfish of him.

  47. I have no idea why this man is in politics. It is all about basketball. Probably because he was a lousy lawyer. Doesn’t matter that Korea is out of control, Europe is crashing, employment remains 10%, but hey, basketball, basketball, basketball…while the world burns.
    ****************

    There aren’t many households for which Oregon State-Howard is a must-watch event .However,the White House is one of them.

    Barack Obama and the first family are in attendance at Burr Gymnasium on the Howard University campus for the showdown between the local team and the Beavers, who are coached by Craig Robinson, Obama’s brother-in-law.

  48. I really hope that the nation’s work doesn’t get in the way of obama’s golfing and indoor sports.

    He is the potus and its pretty obvious that given his daily agenda he has way too much spare time on his hands.

    This must mean that Newsweek’s recent cover asking if the potus position is too much for one man has been answered. Nope, not when you’re obama. You can do it all and still spend 20 hrs a day having fun.

  49. ACE
    ^^^^^^^^

    Hey Maybe Those Crazy Israelis Are On To Something With Their Airport Profiling System After All
    —DrewM.

    This story qualifies as something I wouldn’t expect to see at the top of the Washington Post’s website.

    Israel has long held the reputation as home to the world’s most stringent airport-security procedures. But most passengers aren’t frisked, there are no intimately revealing body-imaging scanners, and security experts dismiss as misguided the new, more intrusive American approach that requires pat-downs or highly detailed scans of every passenger.
    “Taking the bottle of water from the 87-year old-woman at JFK, you will never find an explosive material that is coming from Bin Laden,” said Shlomo Harnoy, head of the Sdema Group, an Israeli security consultancy that advises airports abroad. “You are concentrating on the wrong thing.”

    Israel’s approach allows most travelers to pass through airport security with relative ease. But Israeli personnel do single out small numbers of passengers for extensive searches and screening, based on profiling methods that have so far been rejected in the United States, subjecting Arabs and, in some cases, other foreign nationals to an extensive screening that comes with a steep civil liberties price.

    I don’t get this idea that invasive screening of some instead of all is a “a steep civil liberties price”.

    Airline security is about…security, not personal feelings or equality. By doing the faux, ‘we’re all in it together and are equal threats’ thing we are hurting security but not feelings. That doesn’t seem to be on point. Yes, that’s easy for a pasty white guy like me to say but it’s also the truth.

    Of course the story goes into the usual tales of woe from Arabs who don’t like getting the 3rd degree from Israeli security but so what? We can stack up plenty of similar stories from US airports from people who have zero chance of being a terrorist.

    No system is going to be perfect but spreading limited resources thinner in the name of feelings fails on every level…it hurts security and creates resentments.

    I’m somewhat skeptical that we can implement the Israeli model here. Aside from the lack of political will, there’s simply a question of scale. Only a tiny fraction of people fly to/in Israel compared to the US. I can’t find overall numbers for Israel but the main airport, Ben Gurion handles about 11 million passengers. By comparison, JFK in NY handles 45 million. That gives you a sense of scale we’re looking at.

    One reason we use such ham handed methods is the relative inexpensiveness of the system and the large supply of low skilled workers it takes to run it. Hiring tens of thousands of highly trained and educated profilers isn’t going to be cheap or easy.

    Overall though, it’s good that we are at least beginning to have a discussion about this and not simply accepting the government’s, “this is the way it’s going to be” approach. Maybe we can’t have the Israeli system but perhaps there something between that and the idiocy we are going through now. We’ll only find out if we demand it.

    National “Opt Out Day

  50. This must mean that Newsweek’s recent cover asking if the potus position is too much for one man has been answered. Nope, not when you’re obama. You can do it all and still spend 20 hrs a day having fun.
    ——————————–
    We need to catalog the excuses they come up with to explain the failure of his presidency

    1. He inherited a mess

    2. He promised too much

    3. The job is too big for one man etc

    It begs the question which job is too big for one man? The golf? The basketball? The lavish parties? The expensive trips?

    They will say anything to avoid the obvious truth. The people who picked Obama fucked up royally. And the world knows it. So why pretend. All it does is postpone the final day of reckoning.

  51. Whoops

    The Sunday Telegraph has learnt that the first tranche of documents, to be published in full tomorrow after an initial release tonight, are expected to feature “lively commentaries” by US diplomats on world leaders, including Nelson Mandela, Robert Mugabe, the Zimbabwean president, Hamid Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, and Libya’s Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya.

    Coalition sources say Tuesday’s haul will deal with North and South Korea, as well as Guantánamo Bay, while Wednesday’s tranche will include comments on Pakistan and counter-piracy operations in Djibouti.

    Thursday will see attention focus on the Canadians and their “inferiority complex” while corruption allegations in Afghanistan will be under the spotlight on Friday. Saturday will cover Yemen while next Sunday will see the focus shift to China.

    …………………………………………….

    This is not going to be pretty.

  52. The Canadians are hardly alone. Messiah Obama gives everyone an inferiority complex. Putin hides under the bed when he sees Barack coming–with his outstretched hand, winning grin and hail fellow well met effervescent. Then Barack has to lure him out from under the bed with unilateral concessions on missile defense and little things like that. Putin knows that all Barack wants is a photo op, and as long as he remains under the bed he can extract any concession he wants.

  53. How did this wikileaks guy get all this info? Did he hack it off the government computers…..?

    (either way, it doesn’t say much for our government’s ability to keep secrets safe….)

  54. Oh, the irony…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    NOVEMBER 20, 2010, 7:40 PM ET
    Union Drops Health Coverage for Workers’ Children

    + More
    Text
    By Yuliya Chernova

    Associated Pree
    Jason Morales, an 1199SEIU member from Brooklyn, protested proposed health-care cuts in the state budget in June. A benefit fund for the union is dropping insurance coverage for workers’ children.
    One of the largest union-administered health-insurance funds in New York is dropping coverage for the children of more than 30,000 low-wage home attendants, union officials said. The union blamed financial problems it said were caused by the state’s health department and new national health-insurance requirements.

    The fund is administered by 1199SEIU United Healthcare Workers East, an affiliate of the Service Employees International Union. Union officials said the state compelled the fund to start buying coverage from a third party, which increased premiums by 60%. State health officials denied forcing the union fund to make the switch, saying the fund had been struggling financially even before the switch to third-party coverage.

    The fund informed its members late last month that their dependents will no longer be covered as of Jan. 1, 2011. Currently about 6,000 children are covered by the benefit fund, some until age 23.

    The union fund faced a “dramatic shortfall” between what employers contributed to the fund and the premiums charged by its insurance provider, Fidelis Care, according to Mitra Behroozi, executive director of benefit and pension funds for 1199SEIU. The union fund pools contributions from several home-care agencies and then buys insurance from Fidelis.

    “In addition, new federal health-care reform legislation requires plans with dependent coverage to expand that coverage up to age 26,” Behroozi wrote in a letter to members Oct. 22. “Our limited resources are already stretched as far as possible, and meeting this new requirement would be financially impossible.”

    Behroozi estimated that the fund faced a $15 million shortfall in 2011 and more in the following years for the coverage of workers’ children.

    The union said in a statement that the state required the fund to participate in a new program — the Family Health Plus Buy-In Program — beginning in 2008. The union said it expected that by joining the program, many of its members would qualify for state assistance for health-insurance coverage. “Instead they raised insurance rate increases without any increase in funding, and then cut Medicaid funding to the same workers nine times in the last three years,” the union said in a statement.

    But the state denies requiring the union to join the program. “The state is not forcing 1199 to do anything regarding its employee health insurance,” said Jeffrey W. Hammond, spokesman for the New York Department of Health.

    Home-care agencies that contribute to the union fund collect their revenue from the state’s Medicaid program. Over the past two years the state cut about $370 million in Medicaid reimbursements to home and community-based care programs, according to New York State Association of Health Care Providers Inc., a trade association that represents agencies that employ home attendants.

    “In home care in general, whether in a union or a non-unionized workplace, they are dealing with the crisis of trying to do more and more with less and less, and cut on top of cut,” said Christine Johnston, president of the association.

    For the 1199 fund, premiums rose because Fidelis realized that the home health-care attendants are sicker than average, according to Mark Lane, president and chief executive of Fidelis Care. “These people are hard working people. There’s physical labor, which manifests itself in terms of more chronic and acute care type of illnesses,” said Lane.

    As premiums went up and employer contributions remained constant, the benefit fund started cutting the rolls of eligible members. In the past three years the 1199 fund reduced its total enrollment in half, to less than 40,000 currently.

    “We hope the state of New York will do the right thing and provide the funding necessary for this most vulnerable population of direct caregivers,” the union said in a statemen

  55. My understanding is that he hacked into the government computer. My further understanding is that China did it differently– they re-routed the US government servers. When China got our top secret data we never saw it, whereas here we will. The problem lies at the source. The US government under Obama is doing an incompetent job of protecting our secrets.

  56. lorac:

    “The U.S. government has charged the soldier, Pfc. Bradley Manning, with passing classified information. They are holding him in custody at a military base in Virginia.

    But peace activists regard him as a hero.

    Manning faces a sentence of up to 52 years in prison if convicted of releasing 90,000 pages of classified information to the whistleblower website Wikileaks, as well as classified videos that purportedly show U.S. Army helicopter attacks on unarmed civilians in Iraq.”

    _______________________

    This guy Manning was one source – I am not sure about others.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/103217659.html

  57. Phyllis Chesler, the writer of this essay, has been a feminist writer as long as I can remember…..

    ********

    Romeo and Juliet are alive and well in Dokan, Iraq—well, not exactly. Romeo (Aram Jamal Rasool) was murdered in an honor killing. Juliet (Sirwa Hama Amin) gave birth to her legal husband Romeo’s son, but was also permanently shunned by her own family—the same family who killed her beloved Romeo. Juliet now lives in a house filled with weapons and is escorted by armed guards provided by Romeo’s family when she leaves the house.

    This Juliet can never marry again. She is a dishonored woman. She can never see her relatives again—except perhaps for a moment, when they murder her; perhaps not even then, for her family may send a paid assassin to cleanse its shame.

    The honor murder of a man, not a woman has, seemingly, catapulted the case into the American media. Finally, at long last, even the New York Times has written about an honor killing committed in a Muslim country: Iraqi Kurdistan. In the past, the same American mainstream media which has refused to write about honor killings committed in the United States, has only addressed honor killings in India; they do not hesitate to describe them as “Hindu” honor killings if indeed, Hindus have committed the crime.

    However, in this latest article the word “Muslim” or “Islam” is never used.

    read more:
    http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/903/romeo-juliet-muslim-iraq

  58. “The honor murder of a man, not a woman has, seemingly, catapulted the case into the American media. ”

    Of course. It’s important news – now.

  59. Or maybe Buddhists. You just KNOW those guys are really terrorists, they act SO peaceful, they’re just setting us up. I think they’d better leave the bee-keepers alone, and start frisking those devious, nasty Buddhists!

  60. I didn’t use the M word in the last post – I wonder if those words will also be counted up and included in the “punch back”….

  61. lorac
    November 27th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Romeo and Juliet

    [ c. 218 words of a blogger’s opinion reported as fact ]

    ================

    [ 187 words from our own scriptures ]

    From Deuteromony
    13:7-12 If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or your intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.

    13:13-19Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.

    Isaiah
    14:21 Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.

  62. turndown –

    1. you’re older than I am – you’re calling Phyllis Chesler simply a “blogger”????? Maybe you aren’t a feminist…..?

    2. And they aren’t MY scriptures, btw.

    3. All the old books seem to have a lot of violence in them. What does the violence in one old book (which may be fiction) have to do with real violence today? Nothing.

  63. Biography

    Photo by Yona Werver

    Phyllis Chesler, Ph.D is an Emerita Professor of Psychology and Women’s Studies at City University of New York. She is an author, psychotherapist and an expert courtroom witness. She has lectured and organized political, legal, religious and human rights campaigns in the United States and in Canada, Europe, the Middle East and the Far East. A popular guest on campuses and in national and international print, television, radio and online media, she has been an expert commentator on the major events of our time. She has lived in Kabul, Afghanistan, and in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. She currently resides in Manhattan.

    Dr. Chesler is co-founder of the still ongoing Association for Women in Psychology (1969) and the National Women’s Health Network (1974), and is a charter member of the Women’s Forum (1973-74). She is a founder and Board member of the International Committee for Women of the Wall (1989), as well as an affiliated Professor with Haifa and Bar Ilan Universities. Dr. Chesler is also on the steering committee of the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam.

    Dr. Chesler’s thirteen books and thousands of articles and speeches have inspired people on many diverse issues. Her books include: Women and Madness; Women, Money and Power; About Men; With Child: A Diary of Motherhood; Mothers on Trial: The Battle for Children and Custody; Sacred Bond: The Legacy of Baby M; Patriarchy: Notes of an Expert Witness; Feminist Foremothers in Women’s Studies, Psychology, and Mental Health; Letters to a Young Feminist; Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman; Women of the Wall: Claiming Sacred Ground at Judaism’s Holy Site; The New Anti-Semitism. The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It; and The Death of Feminism. What’s Next in the Struggle for Women’s Freedom.

    A revised and updated edition of her classic, best-selling work, Women and Madness, was published in 2005. In 2009, she published a new edition of Women’s Inhumanity to Woman with a new introduction; and, a completely revised edition of Mothers on Trial with eight new chapters is currently in press. Dr. Chesler has published two important academic studies about honor killings. They appeared in Middle East Quarterly in 2009 and again in 2010. Her work has been translated into many languages, including Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Polish, Hebrew, and into many European languages.

    Dr. Chesler has lectured on mental health, legal, medical, interfaith, and feminist subjects. In the last decade, her work has concerned women’s religious rights, the resurgence of anti-Semitism and jihad, Islamic gender and religious apartheid, and the ideological and propaganda war against America, Israel and the West.

    Dr. Chesler has appeared on The Today Show, The O’Reilly Factor, Oprah, Nightline, CSPAN, 700 Club, CNN, Court TV, CSPAN, The Dennis Prager Show, Donahue, Geraldo, The History Channel, Israel National Radio, Al-Hurrah, The MacNeil-Lehrer Report, MSNBC, NPR, and Washington Journal and on network and local radio and TV programs all over North America and Europe. For three years, she was a regular contributor to NPR’s program At the Opera. In the last few years, she has been interviewed hundreds of times in the media about anti-Semitism, jihadic terrorism and violence against women, including honor killings, and has delivered many lectures on these subjects.

    Over the years, Dr. Chesler has been published and interviewed in The Washington Post, The International Herald Tribune, The Times of London, Il Foglio, Ha’aretz, The New York Times, The Globe and Mail, The London Guardian, Muslim World Today, Yediot Aharonot, Science Magazine, etc. More recently, she has published steadily in FrontPagemag.com, The Jewish Press, The National Review, The Washington Times, The Jewish Week, The Intellectual Conservative, The World Jewish Digest, and Middle East Quarterly. Her archives reside at Duke University.

    She may be reached at her website http://www.phyllis-chesler.com. There are over 4 million references to Dr. Chesler’s work online. She has been profiled in many encyclopedias, including Feminists Who Have Changed America, Jewish Women in America, and in the latest Encyclopedia Judaica. She writes a regular blog at Pajamas Media.com: Chesler Chronicles.

    •Phyllis Chesler’s Facebook Page
    •Curriculum Vitae
    •Courtroom Experience
    •Entry on Phyllis Chesler in Encyclopedia Judaica
    •Entry on Phyllis Chesler in Jewish Women in America
    •Phyllis Chesler, Woman of Action

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    And she was married to a muslim and lived in the middle east.

    Nah, she’s “just a blogger” ROFL

  64. 3. All the old books seem to have a lot of violence in them. What does the violence in one old book (which may be fiction) have to do with real violence today? Nothing.

    ================

    Say that next time someone posts violent quotes from the Koran, and I’ll agree with you. 😉

  65. turndown, I don’t care about the old books, unless people are USING THEM TODAY as justification for violence TODAY? Get it?

    I’m really blown away you don’t seem to know who Phyllis Chesler is. If you don’t, it really explains to me why you put culture above women’s rights. I’ll bet you know who Phyllis Shaffley is, though…. and maybe she’s your type of woman…

    I never saw you answer my question a few days ago – which is your priority, women or allah?

    (and I knew you as 1950 democrat on other blogs a while back – I never saw this Muslim apologism from you before – I don’t get it – maybe you married a muslim and he’s taken over your computer. I think I’ll hold on to that thought – it’s better than thinking a Hillary supporter puts misogynist culture over women’s rights)

  66. Moon – If you read the ONLY Comment (#1) right now on Woolfe’s page, you will see Hopium is still the only drug of choice.

    The poor woman really doesn’t get it.

  67. Oh i did and it was easy to spot as a planted response. Pass it to everyone, loads the comments up and lets see if he publishes them.

  68. I am truly at a loss to see what people like Wolffe see in Obama. It is simply astounding they BELIEVE he is something more than a two-bit lying self-absorbed Chicago Thug.

  69. U.S. says WikiLeaks release would endanger lives

    WASHINGTON | Sun Nov 28, 2010

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The State Department has warned the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks that its expected release of classified U.S. documents would endanger countless lives, jeopardize American military operations and hurt international cooperation on global security issues.

    The department’s top lawyer urged WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a letter Saturday to keep classified documents off the website, remove records of them from its database and return any material to the U.S. government.

    Lawyer Harold Koh said the department has learned that WikiLeaks provided about 250,000 documents to The New York Times, The Guardian of Britain and German magazine Der Spiegel.

    Some media reports indicated the news outlets may post stories on the documents as early as Sunday and said they have also been given to newspapers Le Monde in France and El Pais in Spain.

    Koh wrote that publication of the documents would “place at risk the lives of countless innocent individuals” as well as military initiatives and cooperation between countries to confront problems from terrorism to pandemic disease.

    The lawyer also rejected what he said was Assange’s request for more information about individuals who might be at risk from publication of the documents.

    “We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained U.S. Government classified materials,” Koh wrote.

    The letter echoed concerns expressed by Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, in an interview with CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS.”

    “I would hope that those who are responsible for this would, at some point in time, think about the responsibility that they have for lives that they’re exposing and the potential that’s there and stop leaking this information,” Mullen said in the interview due to air Sunday.

    Past releases by WikiLeaks, founded by Assange, an Australian-born computer hacker, contained sensitive information about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which the U.S. government had said compromised national security and put some people at risk.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP06Z20101128

  70. AFP: The Wikileaks founder has said the latest documents – expected to be released this evening – cover ‘every major issue’.

    This is like lobbing a bomb in Obama’s front yard, the documents cover only january 2009 until about sept this year, so its all about Obama’s administration.

  71. I wonder if Obama will try and use this to force Hillary out of the administration, i don’t put it past him to lay the blame at her door.

  72. “the documents cover only january 2009 until about sept this year, so its all about Obama’s administration.”

    pretty revealing that most the the revealing items that are being revealed are during this fool’s administration, says a lot of the incompetence of this pathetic administration. The items released from Bush’s item only revealed items from the war, not US state secrets.

    Wonder how many countries in the world even take Obama seriously? America, the non-apologising America, yes they respect, but not Obama’s America.

  73. turndownobama
    November 27th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    You always do this. Tu quoque arguments are not valid. You should know better. Also, there is no equivalence between christianity and Islam because Christianity has already been moderated. Islam has not.

  74. Evidently Der Speigel has released some of the information from the Wikileaks documents.

    [3:17 p.m.] Leaks revealed in Basel

    Copies of tomorrow’s Der Spiegel have been sold in Basel, Switzerland. Contents are being exposed on Twitter by Symor Jenkins. Among what can be read in Der Spiegel:

    •“Obama prefers to look East than West.”
    •“Obama has no emotion towards Europe.”
    •“The US sees the world as a confrontation between 2 superpowers. The EU plays a secondary role.”
    •“Europe is not so important for the US.”
    •From the cover, we read that Ahmadinejad “is Hitler”, Sarkozy is “an emperor without clothes”, Karzai is “driven by paranoia”.

    •From the inside articles, scanned by Symor Jenkins (page 1, page 2), we learn that the US have a snitch inside the German government, a member of the liberal FDP party. German chancellor Angela Merkel is described as barely creative and risk-averse.

    Read more here:

    http://owni.fr/2010/11/27/wikileaks-statelogs-diplomatic-assange-application-insurance/

  75. “what people like Wolffe see in Obama.”

    Picking up a hefty paycheck everyweek is a great incentive.
    ___________________________________

    The Unholy US/Muslim Alliance

    By Ted Belman

    Dennis ”Avi” Lipkin, a Jew, in his book, Israel’s Bible Bloc, explained how he got over his hatred of Christians and came to embrace them as Israel’s best friend.

    In 1991, as the IDF spokesperson, he was invited to speak to the Dallas Council on World Affairs. They were part of the famous or infamous Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He writes,

    “These are the people who control the economy of the US and the World. These are faceless people who decide who the President of the United States will be as well as leaders of other countries. They control the banks corporations and oil companies that control the world.”

    The CFR includes among its members the power elites in both the Democrat and Republican parties and they include most Presidential nominees. They support world government and globalization. They are building a modern day Tower of Babel which denies American sovereignty and the supremacy of God from which our inalienable rights come in favour of a secular socialist utopia. Pres Obama is a member of CFR.

    Lipkin spoke eloquently on how Israel had already returned 93% of the conquered land and on Israel’s need to keep the rest. Afterwards, he was invited into the “woodshed” with about 20 members of the Council.

    “You are a great IDF spokesman but you don’t know the realities. We here of the Dallas Council on World Affairs, are going to teach you realities.

    “First reality: America is tired of paying for your wars. Israel is going to make peace with the Palestinians whether it likes it or not. We don’t care if you have already handed over to the Arabs side 93% of the land you took in your wars. You are going to hand over, not 93%, or 97%, but 100% and more! You Israelis are all alone. And we don’t even care about the UN Resolutions 242 and 338 calling for new borders which are recognizable and defensible.”

    “Second reality. There is only one thing that made America great: the barrel of oil – the steady price of oil the steady supply of oil. Is that clear?”

    To which Lipkin replied, after he picked himself up off the floor,

    “You know, we Jews never came in the way of America’s oil supplies. In fact we paid for your oil supplies with 6 million of our people in WWII. When the Arabs and their oil snapped the whip in the 1930’s and 1940’s, the U.S. and Britain decided not to give the Jews seeking to flee from Nazi Europe, visas to Palestine, England, the western hemisphere or whatever. It is true that Hitler and the Nazis physically killed the Jews, but the decision to industrially kill all the Jews was only taken in January 1942 at the Wannese Conference in Berlin because there were then over 7 million Jews holed up in the ghettos behind Whermacht lines and the world would not grant the Jews asylum. So we Jews were massacred so as not to get in the way of Arab oil. Breckenridge Long, US Under-Secretary of State for visas, made sure to it that no Jews would get visas to get into the US, Canada and Cuba.

    “And now you mean to say that it is going to happen again? You guys are going to sacrifice 5 million more Jews in Israel for the barrel of oil?”

    They answered in the affirmative which meant they were prepared for a second holocaust.

    What made him appreciate Evangelical Christians as Israel’s friend was that in response to their dire threats and warnings, two Christians who were with him in the room and not members of the Council, boldly stood up and said to them, one after the other, “You call yourself Christians? You say that what made America great was a barrel of oil? You should be ashamed of yourselves. What made America great was not a barrel of oil. What made America great was Jesus Christ.” and “Besides it says in the bible those who bless Israel are blessed and those who curse Israel are cursed.”

    History bears CFR’s threats out.

    The State Department was against the creation of Israel before its birth, forced Israel to retreat from the Sinai after she conquered it in ’56 and maintained an arms embargo on Israel throughout the War of Independence ending only after the ’67 war. The State Department negotiated UNSC Res 242 at the end of the war which allowed Israel to remain in occupation until she had an agreement for “secure and recognized borders”. But the Arabs refused to accept it. So two years later, the US came up with the Rogers’ Plan which required full retreat to the ’49 armistice line.

    In 1974, President Richard Nixon told Syrian president Hafez al-Assad that Washington was committed to seeing an “Israeli withdrawal from all the occupied territories”.

    A year later, Henry Kissinger met with Sadun Hammadi, Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs. A transcript of this meeting has been published which discloses Kissinger’s attempts to assuage the concerns of Hammadi.

    “We don’t need Israel for influence in the Arab world. On the contrary, Israel does us more harm than good in the Arab world. We can’t negotiate about the existence of Israel but we can reduce its size to historical proportions. I think the Palestinian identity has to be recognized in some form. But we need the thoughtful cooperation of the Arabs.”

    Thereafter the US, at first surreptitiously and then openly, backed the PLO. She saved them from Israel’s coup de gras in Beirut and enabled them to be welcomed in the United Nations and into the US.

    The US forced Israel to participate in the Madrid Conference in 1991 and insisted that Jerusalem be put on the table and that the PLO be included in the Palestinian delegation. All this pressure resulted in the Oslo Accords in 1993 and the re-entry into Israel of her mortal enemy, the PLO, headed by Arafat. Remember how sick Rabin looked when he was forced to shake the hand of the arch murderer, Arafat, on the White House lawn under the auspices of President Clinton.

    Oslo ran its course and was superseded by the Roadmap in 2003. This Roadmap replaced Res 242 with the Arab Initiative which included the Rogers Plan just as the Dallas Council had underlined.

    While the US maintains that the final agreement had to be negotiated between the parties, the US puts a “gun” to Israel’s head during negotiations. The peace process is all about reaching an agreement, pre-determined by the Saudi/US alliance.

    If you think this is an antisemitic thing, it is not. It is about money and world domination.

    Mordechai Nisan recently wrote that The U.S. has long sided with the Arab world. He pointed out that the US has supported the Muslims in the Balkans, in Cyprus, in Somali and in Lebanon at the expense of the Christians. The U.S. also turns a blind eye to the killing of Christians in Egypt and in Iraq and to discrimination against Christians in Saudi Arabia and in the territories under the rule of the PA,

    The US brought Turkey into NATO and backs her inclusion in the EU. The US has also maintained an alliance with Pakistan for many decades. The US arms Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the PA. Now she is also arming the Lebanese army which is controlled by Hezbollah. Who else, but Israel, is the target?

    Avi Lipkin adds to this list by informing that “In Indonesia, over a half a million Chinese were slaughtered in the sixties by the Moslems and the world remained silent. In 1975, the Indonesian army marched into East Timor and 300,000 Catholics were slaughtered”. This is the same Indonesia that Pres Obama recently praised so much. And let us not forget that the Turkish Moslems slaughtered one and a half million Christian Armenians during WWI, to little Western condemnation. This silence gave Hitler the confidence that he could slaughter six million Jews twenty years later.

    Recently, Turkey turned Islamist, aligned itself with Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas and still Pres Obama stands by Turkey.

    Pres Obama’s much pursued Muslim outreach merely makes public what has been a covert reality for American policy for 100 years.

    The Islamic countries can do no wrong. They have all the oil and money. Israel can do no right. They are a pain in the globalist’s butt.

    You need not wonder anymore why the US embraces CAIR, invites Muslim immigration, integrates Muslims into the government, has sensitivity training for members of the FBI and calls Islam a religion of peace, notwithstanding 9/11. Or why the US permits the radicalization of most of the mosques in America by Saudi Arabia, their Muslim partner.

    The establishment in America embraces the UN, the International Court of Justice and other international bodies. Plans are underway to create a North American Common Market (NACM) including Mexico, the U.S. and Canada. So why protect your borders? Why deport your aliens? It won’t matter when the NACM is created.

    All of these things and many more international initiatives, require the relinquishment of U.S. sovereignty. But that’s OK. The establishment prefers Globalization and the New World Order.

    Islam also denies sovereignty and democracy in favour of a World Caliphate ruled by Sharia Law. Thus the globalists and Islam make good bedfellows. Just as the Roman Empire co-opted the Catholic Church to control the masses, the Globalists employ Islam to do likewise.

    Avi Lipkin understands this. He is advocating for an alliance between Israel and the Evangelical Christians as a bulwark to the plans of the unholy American/Muslim alliance. Only with such an alliance, can America and Israel, as we know them, be saved.

  76. Der Speigel is releasing some of the Wikileaks info..so far it’s mostly assessments of foreign leaders ( Ahmadinejad “is Hitler”, Sarkozy is “an emperor without clothes”, Karzai is “driven by paranoia”, Angela Merkel is “rarely creative and risk-averse) plus reports that Obama doesn’t have much interest or concern about Europe. More ominous is that the leaks may release names of a snitch the US has inside the German government and (according to another report) the names of Israeli informants–this may cost lives. I’m sure there is much more…the US State Department is demanding Wikileaks stop the document release.

  77. I wonder if Obama will try and use this to force Hillary out of the administration, i don’t put it past him to lay the blame at her door.
    ———————–
    moon: I have a hunch that won’t happen. If he does, it could force her hand. I do think we need to know more generally why this information was vulnerable to disclosure. Frankly, there are secrets more important than these. And when you are in the business, and you are discussing assets, you never use real names–because you always know there is a risk of disclosure. If they did that then the fault lies with Obama’s people. It is funny that they would call the French President an emperor with no clothes. Where Obama is concerned, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. You may have noticed the interchange between the former British Ambassador and Boulton. Boulton did his typical the sky is falling in diatribe whereupon the British Ambassador took a more measured approach to the issue. Of course they were merely discussing the effect on Anglo American relations. But the point he made was rather profound, namely that over the long term relations between nation states are governed by strategic interests as opposed to minor skirmishes or cheap shots like the ones Obama people are apparently taking. It is hard to judge what the short term effect will be but it will be interesting to watch as it unfolds. Through the looking glass darkly.

  78. CBSnews: Ben Stein: Charlie Rangel Is a Genuine American Hero, Was Censured for “Extremely Trivial” Matters

    Trivial……..

  79. JanH

    I wonder how much they pay for those sort of favors. There is nothing he had done to be ranked 3ed in global thinkers.

  80. Once again Foreign Policy Magazine screws up its 100 global thinkers list
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    These people are part of the problem. They live in an ivory tower.

  81. Sweaty Elbow
    By John Batchelor on November 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM in Current Affairs

    Editor’s Note: This is a must-read by John Batchelor, on whose show Larry Johnson tonight will join a lively discussion of these events. (Instructions on how to listen are at the end of this post.

    Information from Washington that POTUS has twelve stitches from an elbow in a childlike basketball game. My information from sources is that both Tokyo and Seoul asked for a counter strike within the first hours of the 11/23 artillery barrage, and both were “ridiculed” for the request and elbowed aside by the US national security apparatus, chiefly the mouthpiece Tom Donilon. The GW deployment was scheduled some two months back. No significance.
    On Tuesday, Beijing initially kept mum, waiting for POTUS Obama to respond. My information is that POTUS showed himself indifferent on the matter.

    Beijing then protested the deployment, though it was long scheduled.

    POTUS plays basketball while North Asia schemes.

    What to learn from this? Obama has no natural curiosity in Asia. POTUS has two gears: he is either a frantic campaign performance artist or a routine White House slouch who punctuates his smoke breaks with meaningless and sweaty male games played by middle-aged men.

    Obama does not learn from serial policy crises with Pyongyang.

    The no-drama-Obama trope may be a way of describing the observation that POTUS is not engaged by the commander-in-chief part of his job, and that he has no concern with foreign policy except the Tehran diplomacy scenario.

    The attack by the DPRK was planned and executed with state cunning. The names to watch are General Kim Myong-Guk and General Kim Kyok-Sik. Beijing supports the results and knew beforehand of the strike.

    POTUS Obama delegates authority in Asia to Beijing. What China won’t do (which is to correct its own behavior, since the DPRK is a lackey of the PRC), the United States will not do. The US treaties with Tokyo and Soul are nearly worthless.

    The sitrep is fragile, dangerous, unacceptable. POTUS Obama flacks know they are defending a losing policy. The White House excuse will be to continue to repeat that it can do no more than its predecessors. Those twelve stitches from the elbow, more bad karma?

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    How does a lawyer for corrupt Fannie Mae like Donilon get to be a national security advisor?
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    helenk
    Backtrack playes basketball, China calls for resuming six party talks.
    So just who looks like the grown up in the room?
    Once again backtrack hurts the American image.

  82. The Unholy US/Muslim Alliance

    Explains why we have been dependent on oil for so long. What the narrative omits is the fact the Trust Babies (Rockefeller-VanBurens-Bushes) and many of the country’s elites who as partners invested in Standard Oil when oil became the backbone of family’s monied trusts in perpetuity and essentially the incentive for a life long alliance with Arabs and Muslims. Just think of how many presidents represent the old guard, guarding the oil interests of their monied friends.

  83. Mrs. Smith
    November 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    The Unholy US/Muslim Alliance
    By Ted Belman
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    What’s being revved up now is the “let’s you and him fight” tactic. The bad guys–supranational old family banking cartels, or new world order utopians–however one wants to name them, are at the end of their rope now and desperate. Stirring up hate, war, confusion, chaos… even more than usual.

    Sorting through the details of it is, I think, pretty well impossible, even with a lot of mental horsepower and free time to work on it. Certainly it would seem the wiser course to not jump into the middle of any of the almost endless whirlwinds of confusion and chaos the press, media and internet stir up, without good reason.

    That’s my take on this article and a whole lot else, FWIW. Let the little fires burn themselves out and let’s not let the whole city get burnt down. (West Asia is not a little fire, but most of what’s being written on it is.)

    BTW, I’m not seeing the wikileaks release as part of such operations, though the way the data is played up certainly is likely to be.

    JMHO

  84. What I cannot understand is why the man who promised to sit down with the world’s worst dictators without preconditions in the first year of his presidency (but failed to do so) doesn’t stop playing basketball long enough to just pick up the phone and ask the founder of Wikileaks to not disclose certain items which are deemed highly problematic. Seems like one more failure of leadership. But if they feel that strongly, and cannot prevent the release, why do they refuse to cooperate in redacting the most sensitive portions. It is like turning their back on the issue, unless there was nothing to it in the first place I do not pretend to know any of the details. I merely know that it is in the interest of the national security state which the United States now is to keep the American People in a state of high anxiety so they barely notice when their liberties are taken away. The lives at stake claim is as old as the hills. We will not know until we see it. We shall see how it plays out, but in the meantime we need to determine how this happened and how it can be prevented in the future. Is anyone in the obama loving press asking those questions, or are they strictly waiting for the administration to give them their usual marching orders?

  85. Remember a few days ago when that little weasel muslum tryed to blow off a bomb in the middle of innocnet people celebrating Christmas? Well, I am sorry to say, here is a retaliation I can believe in:

    “Arson caused a fire at an Islamic center on Sunday that was the occasional place of worship for a Somali-born teen who two days ago was arrested on charges of plotting a terror attack in Portland, authorities said.

    Yosof Wanly, imam at the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center, said 80 percent of the center’s office was burned Sunday morning but the worship areas were untouched. No one was injured.”

  86. I remember in early 2009, Holder and the fool in the WH released a lot of CIA operations along with threatening to go after those CIA agents. I would not be a bit surprised if those shockwaves and the damage from these releases are still having an effect now. And the damage is the trust, and that commodity is now dwindling. And now with this wikileaks data dump, how many countries who are America’s allies will now be much more cautious in sharing information?

  87. I’m waiting to hear more about that guy outside San Diego who had a house full of explosives. He was originally a Serbian, but I haven’t heard anything about his religion or any possible plans for the explosives or motives. So many sick people in this world.

  88. so I see NYT is continuing to be a bastian of American patriotism. /sarc

    there is a massive DOS against the wikileaks site ongoing right now, and yet the NYT will be publishing this stuff tommorow anyways. No other American media will be, but trust the NYT to publish items that will harm American interests.

  89. The interesting part now is each of these media outlets will be in competition with each other to get all this out. That means that big media–or Soros for that matter cannot censor it as they normally would.

  90. I’m reading the overview and fuck fuck fuck, this is going to be a disaster for the US Govt.

    It apparently going to detail Hillary in quite some detail and her instructions as Sec of State.

  91. WTF……

    When Afghanistan’s emmisary visited the United Arab Emirates last year….he was carrying $52 million in cash according to the cables.

  92. Huh. Just read at gatewaypundit that Obama’s marxist cousin who is the Prime Minister of Kenya has just issued an order to arrest all gays in that country.

    Lovely, just lovely! /sarc

  93. Maybe the real purpose behind wikileaks is to have every country at each other’s throats?

    ——————

    Arab states scorn ‘evil’ Iran

    US embassy cables reveal Tehran’s reputation as a meddling, lying troublemaker intent on building nuclear weapons

    Ian Black, Middle East editor guardian.co.uk, Sunday 28 November 2010

    King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia urged Iran’s foreign minister to “spare us your evil” in a meeting that reflected profound Arab hostility to the Islamic Republic – a recurrent theme of high-level private conversations in the Middle East in recent times.

    Leaked state department cables catalogue a litany of complaints from the Saudis and smaller Gulf states, as well as Egypt, Jordan and others, on issues from Tehran’s nuclear ambitions, to its involvement in Iraq and support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Palestinian Hamas.

    “You as Persians have no business meddling in Arab matters,” the Saudi monarch was quoted as telling Manouchehr Mottaki, Iran’s foreign minister. “Iran’s goal is to cause problems,” he continued in a conversation with a senior White House official. “There is no doubt something unstable about them.”

    Abdullah declared: “May God prevent us from falling victim to their evil. We have had correct relations over the years, but the bottom line is that they cannot be trusted.” US diplomats recorded similar comments earlier this year from the United Arab Emirates, described as being “46 seconds from Iran as measured by the flight time of a ballistic missile”. Abu Dhabi’s crown prince and deputy commander of the UAE armed forces, Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, referred to Iran as an “existential threat” and was concerned about “getting caught in the crossfire if Iran is provoked by the US or Israel”. In one earlier conversation Bin Zayed even suggested that the US should send in ground forces if air strikes were not enough to “take out” Iranian nuclear targets.

    Arab-Persian enmity, with a strong undercurrent of rivalry between Sunni and Shia Muslims, dates back centuries but increased markedly after the overthrow of the shah and the Islamic revolution in 1979 and is now viewed as a struggle for hegemony in the region. The conservative Sunni-ruled regimes in Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states detect the “hidden hand” of Iranian subversion, sometimes where none exists. Tehran’s fervent support for Hezbollah and Hamas are seen as ways of extending Iranian influence.

    In the UAE the foreign minister is described as viewing “Iran as a huge problem that goes far beyond nuclear capabilities”, the embassy reported in February 2010. “Iranian support for terrorism is broader than just Hamas and Hezbollah. Iran has influence in Afghanistan, Yemen, Kuwait, Bahrain, the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia and Africa.”

    Speaking to General David Petraeus of US central command in late 2009, Bahrain’s King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa “pointed to Iran as the source of much of the trouble in both Iraq and Afghanistan … [and] argued forcefully for taking action to terminate their nuclear programme, by whatever means necessary. That programme must be stopped. The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it.”

    In Oman, Sultan Qaboos bin Said al-Said told the then commander of US central command, Admiral William Fallon: “Iran is a big country with muscles and we must deal with it.” A senior Omani minister singled out Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar as the three Gulf countries that would probably want the US to attack Iran.

    Kuwait’s military intelligence chief told Petraeus that Iran was supporting Shia groups in the Gulf and extremists in Yemen. Yemen and Saudi Arabia have repeatedly accused Iran of supplying weapons and money to the Houthi rebels in Yemen’s Saada region, though the evidence is not conclusive. US diplomatic cables also confirmed that Qatar, the wealthiest country in the region, was an outspoken critic of Iran in private, while maintaining cordial public relations with it and the US.

    “Iran is clever and makes its opponents dizzy in the quest for deals,” said the Qatari prime minister, Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani. “They will keep you working on a deal and then start from scratch with a new interlocutor. Iran will make no deal. Iran wants nuclear weapons.” Bin Jassim “would not be surprised to see Iran test one to demonstrate to the world its achievement”. Late last year he gave a succinct summary of Doha’s relationship with Tehran: “They lie to us, and we lie to them”.

    Washington’s main Arab allies outside the Gulf, Jordan and Egypt – which both have unpopular peace treaties with Israel – are also deeply hostile to Iran.

    Egyptian views on Iran are uniformly negative, as quoted by US interlocutors. General Omar Suleiman, its intelligence chief, called Iran “a significant threat to Egypt … supporting jihad and spoiling peace”. He said he had warned Iran against meddling in domestic affairs (and supporting groups like the Muslim Brotherhood) and received a “very positive message” from his Iranian counterpart indicating that Iran would not interfere in Egypt.

    President Hosni Mubarak attacked his Iranian counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as an extremist who “does not think rationally”. He told a US congressman: “Iran is always stirring trouble”.

    Mubarak, like Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah, was sceptical about US plans to try to engage with Tehran after Barack Obama’s inauguration. Margaret Scobey, the US ambassador in Cairo, described Mubarak as having “a visceral hatred for the Islamic Republic, referring repeatedly to Iranians as ‘liars’, and denouncing them for seeking to destabilise Egypt and the region. He sees the Syrians and Qataris as sycophants to Tehran and liars themselves.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/arab-states-scorn-iranian-evil

  94. moon — where are you reading these wikileak’s information? thanks.

    what does it say about Hillary? Poor Hillary, that woman is nonstop working and traveling to contain all this while that fool in the WH is a lazy cowardly bum.

  95. I remember in early 2009, Holder and the fool in the WH released a lot of CIA operations along with threatening to go after those CIA agents. I would not be a bit surprised if those shockwaves and the damage from these releases are still having an effect now. And the damage is the trust, and that commodity is now dwindling. And now with this wikileaks data dump, how many countries who are America’s allies will now be much more cautious in sharing information?
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    Obama and his thugs were perfectly willing to disclose information about the secret operations of the predecessor administration, for the sake of transparency. Those who live by the sword . . . But for me the much larger issue is getting raw data on what this Administration is up to–which can adversely affect the interests of the American People. That interest trumps everything else.

  96. its all over the british news, its pasted right up there.

    This is devestating.

    They are saying that Hillary ordered the US diplomats to spy on the United Nations leadership and at international summits.

    I’m actually scared, this may ruin Hillary. They may use her as a scapegoat.

    This could bring down the whole administration.

  97. well…bambi can’t have it both ways. If Hillary gets tarnished by the wikileaks dump, I’m sure she has kept plenty of backup evidence to show that she was just following the idiots orders.

    As a good team player does.

  98. WikiLeaks documents reveal Saudi king pressed US for military action against Iran.
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    A perfect example of what should be disclosed. This is the diametric opposite of his public position. Saudi Arabia is the petrie dish for world terrorism. For too long they have been using the United States and its soldiers as a catspaw. This King is part of the group that installed Obama so this may not go down well in Mecca and Medina, but it is time for these potentates to stop leading a double life.

  99. 11/28/2010

    The US Diplomatic Leaks

    A Superpower’s View of the World

    By SPIEGEL Staff

    251,000 State Department documents, many of them secret embassy reports from around the world, show how the US seeks to safeguard its influence around the world. It is nothing short of a political meltdown for US foreign policy.

    What does the United States really think of German Chancellor Angela Merkel? Is she a reliable ally? Did she really make an effort to patch up relations with Washington that had been so damaged by her predecessor? At most, it was a half-hearted one.

    The tone of trans-Atlantic relations may have improved, former US Ambassador to Germany William Timken wrote in a cable to the State Department at the end of 2006, but the chancellor “has not taken bold steps yet to improve the substantive content of the relationship.” That is not exactly high praise.

    And the verdict on German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle? His thoughts “were short on substance,” wrote the current US ambassador in Berlin, Philip Murphy, in a cable. The reason, Murphy suggested, was that “Westerwelle’s command of complex foreign and security policy issues still requires deepening.”

    Such comments are hardly friendly. But in the eyes of the American diplomatic corps, every actor is quickly categorized as a friend or foe. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia? A friend: Abdullah can’t stand his neighbors in Iran and, expressing his disdain for the mullah regime, said, “there is no doubt something unstable about them.” And his ally, Sheikh bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi? Also a friend. He believes “a near term conventional war with Iran is clearly preferable to the long term consequences of a nuclear armed Iran.”

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emissaries also learn of a special “Iran observer” in the Azerbaijan capital of Baku who reports on a dispute that played out during a meeting of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council. An enraged Revolutionary Guard Chief of Staff Mohammed Ali Jafari allegedly got into a heated argument with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and slapped him in the face because the generally conservative president had, surprisingly, advocated freedom of the press.

    A Political Meltdown

    Such surprises from the annals of US diplomacy will dominate the headlines in the coming days when the New York Times, London’s Guardian, Paris’ Le Monde, Madrid’s El Pais and SPIEGEL begin shedding light on the treasure trove of secret documents from the State Department. Included are 243,270 diplomatic cables filed by US embassies to the State Department and 8,017 directives that the State Department sent to its diplomatic outposts around the world. In the coming days, the participating media will show in a series of investigative stories how America seeks to steer the world. The development is no less than a political meltdown for American foreign policy.

    Never before in history has a superpower lost control of such vast amounts of such sensitive information — data that can help paint a picture of the foundation upon which US foreign policy is built. Never before has the trust America’s partners have in the country been as badly shaken. Now, their own personal views and policy recommendations have been made public — as have America’s true views of them.

    For example, one can learn that German Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, the Germany’s most beloved politician according to public opinion polls, openly criticizes fellow cabinet member Guido Westerwelle in conversations with US diplomats, and even snitches on him. Or that Secretary of State Clinton wants her ambassadors in Moscow and Rome to inform her whether there is anything to the rumors that Italian President Silvio Berlusconi and Vladimir Putin have private business ties in addition to their close friendship — whispers that both have vehemently denied.

    America’s ambassadors can be merciless in their assessments of the countries in which they are stationed. That’s their job. Kenya? A swamp of flourishing corruption extending across the country. Fifteen high-ranking Kenyan officials are already banned from traveling to the United States, and almost every single sentence in the embassy reports speaks with disdain of the government of President Mwai Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

    Weighing Public Interest against Confidentiality

    Turkey hardly comes away any less scathed in the cables. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the cables allege, governs with the help of a cabal of incompetent advisors. Ankara Embassy officials depict a country on a path to an Islamist future — a future that likely won’t include European Union membership.

    As with the close to 92,000 documents on the war in Afghanistan at the end of July and the almost 400,000 documents on the Iraq war recently released, the State Department cables have also been leaked to the WikiLeaks whistleblower platform — and they presumably came from the same source. As before, WikiLeaks has provided the material to media partners to review and analyze them.

    With a team of more than 50 reporters and researchers, SPIEGEL has viewed, analyzed and vetted the mass of documents. In most cases, the magazine has sought to protect the identities of the Americans’ informants, unless the person who served as the informant was senior enough to be politically relevant. In some cases, the US government expressed security concerns and SPIEGEL accepted a number of such objections. In other cases, however, SPIEGEL felt the public interest in reporting the news was greater than the threat to security. Throughout our research, SPIEGEL reporters and editors weighed the public interest against the justified interest of countries in security and confidentiality.

    It is now possible to view many political developments around the world through the lens of those who participated in those events. As such, our understanding of those events is deeply enriched. That alone is often enough to place transparency ahead of national regulations regarding confidentiality.

    Following the leaks of military secrets from Afghanistan and Iraq, these leaks now put US diplomats on the hot seat. It is the third coup for WikiLeaks within six months, and it is one that is likely to leave Washington feeling more than a bit exposed. Around half of the cables that have been obtained aren’t classified and slightly less, 40.5 percent, as classified as “confidential.” Six percent of the reports, or 16,652 cables, are labelled as “secret;” and of those, 4,330 are so explosive that they are labelled “NOFORN,” meaning access should not be made available to non-US nationals. Taken together, the cables provide enough raw text to fill 66 years worth of weekly SPIEGEL magazines.

    Gossip and the Unvarnished Truth

    Much in the material was noted and sent because those compiling the reports or their dialogue partners believed, with some certainty, that their transcripts would not be made public for the next 25 years. That may also explain why the ambassadors and emissaries from Washington were so willing to report gossip and hearsay back to State Department headquarters. One cable from the Moscow Embassy on Russian first lady Svetlana Medvedev, for example, states that she is “generating tensions between the camps and remains the subject of avid gossip.” It then goes on to report that President Medvedev’s wife had already drawn up a list of officials who should be made to “suffer” in their careers because they had been disloyal to Medvedev. Another reports that the wife of Azerbaijan leader Ilham Aliyev has had so much plastic surgery that it is possible to confuse her for one of her daughters from a distance, but that she can barely still move her face.

    What makes the documents particularly appealing, though, is that many politicians speak the unvarnished truth, confident as they are that their musings will never be made public.

    What, though, do the thousands of documents prove? Do they really show a US which has the world on a leash? Are Washington’s embassies still self-contained power centers in their host countries?

    In sum, probably not. In the major crisis regions, an image emerges of a superpower that can no longer truly be certain of its allies — like in Pakistan, where the Americans are consumed by fear that the unstable nuclear power could become precisely the place where terrorists obtain dangerous nuclear material.

    There are similar fears in Yemen, where the US, against its better judgement, allows itself to be instrumentalized by an unscrupulous leader. With American military aid that was intended for the fight against al-Qaida, Ali Abdullah Saleh is now able to wage his battle against enemy tribes in the northern part of the country.

    Insult to Injury

    Even after the fall of Saddam Hussein, it still remained a challenge for the victorious power to assert its will on Iraq. In Baghdad, which has seen a series of powerful US ambassadors — men the international press often like to refer to as American viceroys — it is now up to Vice President Joe Biden to make repeated visits to allied Iraqi politicians in an effort to get them to finally establish a respectable democracy. But the embassy cables make it very clear that Obama’s deputy has made little headway.

    Instead, the Americans are forced to endure the endless tirades of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarek, who claims to have always known that the Iraq war was the “biggest mistake ever committed” and who advised the Americans to “forget about democracy in Iraq.” Once the US forces depart, Mubarak said, the best way to ensure a peaceful transition is for there to be a military coup. They are statements that add insult to injury.

    On the whole, the cables from the Middle East expose the superpower’s weaknesses. Washington has always viewed it as vital to its survival to secure its share of energy reserves, but the world power is often quickly reduced to becoming a plaything of diverse interests. And it is drawn into the animosities between Arabs and Israelis, Shiites and Sunnis, between Islamists and secularists, between despots and kings. Often enough, the lesson of the documents that have now been obtained, is that the Arab leaders use their friends in Washington to expand their own positions of power.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731580,00.html

  100. well…bambi can’t have it both ways. If Hillary gets tarnished by the wikileaks dump, I’m sure she has kept plenty of backup evidence to show that she was just following the idiots orders.

    As a good team player does.
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    Agreed.

  101. “They are saying that Hillary ordered the US diplomats to spy on the United Nations leadership and at international summits.”

    Frankly, this makes me admire and respect Hillary even more, for all these right wingers who thought Hillary would ever sell out this country, she will not! as for that Obama fool, that’s standard operating procedure for him.

    I don’t trust the UN one bit either, I am very glad to see Hillary never trusted them either and kept America’s interest first and foremost.

    It will finally show who the real adults in this incompetent pathetic administration are, Hillary, Gates.

  102. Never before in history has a superpower lost control of such vast amounts of such sensitive information — data that can help paint a picture of the foundation upon which US foreign policy is built. Never before has the trust America’s partners have in the country been as badly shaken. Now, their own personal views and policy recommendations have been made public — as have America’s true views of them.
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    So its back to the original question: how did this happen? And how can it be prevented in the future.

  103. As if other countries haven’t done the same thing that U.S. foreign policy has?

    No other country labels counterparts? No other country has spies working world-over for them, including at the U.N.

    If other countries, including my own (Canada), dare to call out the U.S. for this, I hope the U.S. counters with the hypocracy of all this.

    And if obama’s only move was to have the State Department send a letter to wikileaks owner’s lawyer at the very last minute, then he should be impeached. Instead of playing/watching basketball, he should have been at the helm of an international treason charge for these traitors.

  104. does anyone know where this was leaked from?

    the state dept? so some idiot stole classified info and then forwarded it to wikileaks?

  105. Apparently Putin payed Berlusconi to be mouthpiece of Putin and Russia in Europe …..bought and paid for. Italy should arrest him for corruption now.

  106. Beware the NYT piece is holding a lot back compared to whats hitting Europe
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    The beauty of that is it proves what we have been saying–that NYT censor information to protect their sacred cows. This has nothing whatsoever to do with patriotism, because they have none. Put differently, they do not tell the truth to the American People, and that is where it starts stops and ends.

  107. oh my, just realised that this means Obama will continue apologzing for America, of course other countries do this kind of diplomatic foundations, etc, we do as well we do that to promote American interest, and that is nothing to apologize for.

    but this will create a lot of damage for countries who are cooperating with us, but its in secret, countries like Yemen… this man should have been stopped and arrested, in whatever country he was in. He’s in Jordan! why the hell is he not arrested!?!?

  108. What, though, do the thousands of documents prove? Do they really show a US which has the world on a leash? Are Washington’s embassies still self-contained power centers in their host countries?

    In sum, probably not. In the major crisis regions, an image emerges of a superpower that can no longer truly be certain of its allies — like in Pakistan, where the Americans are consumed by fear that the unstable nuclear power could become precisely the place where terrorists obtain dangerous nuclear material.
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    Very interesting. We continue to bear the costs of empire, with diminishing prospects for its success.

  109. US diplomats were tasked to obtain frequent flyer numbers, credit card details & even DNA material from people they meet

    WTF

  110. I have been searching online everywhere, I still cannot figure out how this and where it was leaked from. I see that it was leaked by some lowly person, but not how or where?

  111. Norma Desmond
    November 28th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks for that link. I didn’t realise the Army had State dept wires from diplomates around the world.

  112. That Army guy was arrested earlier this year, but I can’t remember how early. If there is material released that is dated subsequent to his arrest, then there must be some additional source as well….

  113. This leaked Cable should send shivers right down any americans spine

    Saudi King Abdullah: “Thank God for bringing Obama to the presidency”

    So the king thinks he’s god now does he

  114. there are funny ones though.

    from tokyo embassy… japanese big mac sauce tastes funny. Fish eating bastards. END TRANSMISSION

  115. This is gonna fuck up the middle east proper.

    Qatari emir: Hamas will accept 1967 borders, but won’t say so in public

  116. Irony corner: CNN didn’t get advance access to #WikiLeaks #cablegate material b/c they refused to sign a confidentiality agreement.

  117. Working overseas in govenment installations, we were told to keep track of the foreign nationals and report any suspicious behavior. We were also told to report the diplomatic plates we saw, as those vehicles are only allowed in certain areas.

  118. In late 2008 the Moscow embassy wired back about the relationship between Russia’s president, Dmitry Medvedev and the prime minister, Vladimir Putin, remarking that Medvedev, officially the senior partner, “plays Robin to Putin’s Batman”.

    Kim Jong-il, the ailing dictator of North Korea fared no better, with diplomats quoting sources who described him variously as a “flabby old chap” and someone who had suffered “physical and psychological trauma” as a result of his stroke.

    The Paris embassy remarked on the “thin-skinned and authoritarian personal style” of French President Nicholas Sarkozy after it reported his tendency to repeatedly rebuke his team and the French prime minister.

    Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi was “feckless, vain, and ineffective as a modern European leader”, according to Elizabeth Dibble, US charge d’affaires in Rome. Another report from Rome recorded the view that he was a “physically and politically weak” leader whose “frequent late nights and penchant for partying hard mean he does not get sufficient rest”.

    Key allies in the war on terror are not spared either. A dispatch from Kabul reports the view that the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, is “an extremely weak man who did not listen to facts but was instead easily swayed by anyone who came to report even the most bizarre stories or plots against him”.

    In Yemen, the power base of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, President Ali Abdullah Saleh was “dismissive, bored and impatient”, during a meeting with John Brennan, Barack Obama’s deputy national security adviser.

    Robert Mugabe, the president of Zimbabwe, is simply branded “the crazy old man” by Maite Nkoana-Mashabane, South Africa’s international relations and cooperation minister, according to a cable from Pretoria, while Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, is “just strange” according to an adviser to Sultan Qaboos of Oman.

    Israel’s prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu is “elegant and charming” but never keeps his promises, according to a cable from Cairo recounting a meeting with President Hosni Mubarak, who added: “I have told him so personally”.

  119. I wonder how Putin likes being referred to as “BATMAN”

    If I was the ambassador to Moscow, i’d have left yesterday.

  120. The major newspapers worldwide are censoring some of what they are reporting but aren’t these files being dumped on the internet by Wikileaks? If they are, then anyone can download them and publish or leak out whatever information they want–including things the others aren’t reporting..

    If so, this is a massive blow to our country, it’s security, and it’s international relationships..

    What on earth was Manning thinking if he was the one that stole the documents? I don’t get it…

  121. AG someone else is behind this, i imagine, a foreign country paid or manipulated someone to get the files and then leak them to wikileaks.

  122. I would be more curious what other countries, UK, Germany, etc think of Mr.Waffles, thosse leaks would be very revealing.

  123. Saudi king on Iraqi PM Maliki: He’s “an Iranian agent.”
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    I think that is 100% accurate.

  124. AG someone else is behind this, i imagine, a foreign country paid or manipulated someone to get the files and then leak them to wikileaks.
    —————————
    That would be interesting to know. We just need more information on that part.

  125. Tim – “WikiLeaks has not disclosed the source of the materials. But suspicion has centered on Pfc. Bradley Manning, 22, an Army intelligence analyst whom the military arrested this year, charging him with the downloading and transfer of classified material. ”
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    He might have information on the Iraq War dump, but not all this state department stuff.

  126. this manning fellow needs to be tried for treason. treason against the US, what he did was absolutely disgusting, looks like he is the source for all this leaked classified info.

  127. moononpluto
    November 28th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    This is gonna fuck up the middle east proper.

    Qatari emir: Hamas will accept 1967 borders, but won’t say so in public

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    Honestly, I’m pretty sure bibi has this information already and even more that the U.S. has. It’s probably a non-issue though because I doubt that Israel will go back to 1967 borders.

  128. Note: only PRE-leaked some info to some newspapers published now, whole leak not yet available at all….we aint got the juicy stuff yet.

  129. US cables: Internal Source Kept US Informed of Merkel Coalition Negotiations.

    basically telling everyone the german govt has a spy in it.

  130. “Yes Jan but thats not what Hamas have been telling their people, is it?”

    ————
    Yep. You’re right. Civil war here we come?

  131. Lipkin’s another book deal. Target audience the same as the televangelists’.

    I suppose the next one will tell us Lincoln’s doctor’s dog is alive and well in Argentina.

  132. The US diplomats obviously have a deep network of informants in Germany. One source in October 2009 reported frequently from the ongoing coalition negotiations to form a government between Merkel’s conservative Christian Democrats and Westerwelle’s FDP. The informant was a “young, up-and-coming party loyalist” from the FDP, wrote the US Ambassador to Berlin, Philip Murphy, in a report from Oct. 9, 2009. The source had “offered (the embassy employee) internal party documents in the past.” He was prepared to read out personal notes he had made and to hand over documents from the negotiations.

  133. ” He was prepared to read out personal notes he had made and to hand over documents from the negotiations.”

    oh my, this is going to completely shake or set up severely all the networks the US has built up over many many decades all across the world.

  134. Slovenian diplomats told to take in a Gitmo prisoner if they wanted any sort of meeting or help from President Obama

  135. On the imaginative assumption that they aren’t just making up all of these alleged documents….

    ” It is funny that they would call the French President an emperor with no clothes. Where Obama is concerned, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. ”

    Well, it might be the Journolist tactic with a few words missing from the tape: “Let’s CALL S an emperor with no clothes.” As a Big Lie coming from the real naked Obamemperor.

    “But the point he made was rather profound, namely that over the long term relations between nation states are governed by strategic interests as opposed to minor skirmishes or cheap shots [….]”

    Right — as are the relations between most US politicians, imo.

  136. CBSnews: Ben Stein: Charlie Rangel Is a Genuine American Hero, Was Censured for “Extremely Trivial” Matters

    ===================

    And for supporting Hillary.

  137. i shouldnt laugh because i know how he’ll react but

    Cables : Qadhaffi’s needs are almost hilariously difficult to accommodate.

    Gadaffi’s a fruit loop full stop.

  138. The no-drama-Obama trope may be a way of describing the observation that POTUS is not engaged by the commander-in-chief part of his job, and that he has no concern with foreign policy

    The no-drama-Obama trope

    ==============

    Aka “What, me worry?”

  139. This is a supposedly confidential letter from Tom Foremn (aka Foreskin) of CNN to Obama. It shows how CNN and Obama are joined at the hip. This supposedly neutral journalist is so chummy it is sickening.

    Dear Mr. President,

    For the record, I don’t buy it. At least I’m doubtful. Okay, I guess I really just don’t know. But when I hear Secretary of State Hillary Clinton say, as she did again this weekend, that she has no interest in running for President again, I can’t help but feel a little twitchy.

    If there is any consolation for voters tired of being deceived by politicians it may be that at least you all do it to each other, too. I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard some politician, when asked about seeking a new or higher office, give a rendition of General Sherman’s famous “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”

    The biggest difference is that Sherman meant it, and what many modern pols really mean is “I am not running. At this moment. Probably not before nightfall. I’m testing the waters. Looking for interest. Studying the polls. And if I decide to run later, like say, by 8 a.m. tomorrow, you can’t hold me accountable for saying otherwise.”

    Not to make you uneasy, but I could easily see the kind of perfect political storm that would drive a Draft Hillary movement. First, the economy remains weak. Second, as a result, your approval numbers remain low; maybe low enough that you appear headed for a re-election loss. And third, member of your party who haven’t exactly fallen in love with your policies…liberals, many of the Congressional powers, and moderates… decide to join forces to prevent what they fear will an embarrassing defeat, and Bob’s-Your-Uncle, Hillary becomes the candidate.

    For the moment, of course, there is nothing you can or should do. You have to take it on face value that she means what she says. But Washington is a city driven by real ambition and false modesty. And it’s worth remembering that sometimes the surest sign that a politician is going to run for office, are the repeated assurances that he or she won’t.

    Had a great weekend. Went up to New Jersey for my brother-in-law’s 50th birthday. They had a cake the size of an oil barrel. It was ridiculous and a lot of fun. Did you get out to enjoy the weather at all? I fear the cold is coming, but for now DC is so very nice.

    If you have some minutes, give me a call and I’ll come over for a walk.
    Regards,
    Tom

  140. Ruh-oh

    Cablegate (yes that is what they are calling it…….Devastating criticism of the UK’s military operations in Afghanistan to be detailed tomorrow.

  141. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, UAE all asked US to stop Iran by “any means necessary”…
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    That is an important and helpful disclosure. It also illustrates how Obama is not up to the job. Weak and hesitant as he has been from the beginning. I suspect if you did through the cables you will also find assent by those Arab nations to an Israeli attack but that may be at a higher level.

  142. What’s being revved up now is the “let’s you and him fight” tactic. The bad guys–supranational old family banking cartels, or new world order utopians–however one wants to name them, are at the end of their rope now and desperate. Stirring up hate, war, confusion, chaos… even more than usual.

    “Sorting through the details of it is, I think, pretty well impossible, even with a lot of mental horsepower and free time to work on it. Certainly it would seem the wiser course to not jump into the middle of any of the almost endless whirlwinds of confusion and chaos the press, media and internet stir up, without good reason.”

    Very sensible!

    “What’s being revved up now is the “let’s you and him fight” tactic. The bad guys–supranational old family banking cartels, or new world order utopians–however one wants to name them, are at the end of their rope now and desperate. Stirring up hate, war, confusion, chaos… even more than usual.”

    Well, the other side/s (al Qaeda, Lipkin, Saleem, Gingrich, televangelists, etc) are certainly stirring a lot. And I suppose the elites are helping, by giving them publicity.

  143. hmm interesting

    Not yet confirmed but just heard BBC are now saying the person who leaked all the Cables was an American working in Iran!!

  144. wbboei – where did that come from, a website? That’s incredible. Well, not really, I guess. I’d like to see the email that BO send to this guy that prompted this response email.

  145. Not yet confirmed but just heard BBC are now saying the person who leaked all the Cables was an American working in Iran!!
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    That kind of fits.

  146. NYTimes has heavily edited/omitted/redacted the #WikiLeaks #CableGate documents to protect their dear leader, Obama.

  147. When Obama said he wanted open and transparent Govt, i did’nt expect the whole foreign diplomacy opened like a corpse on autopsy.

  148. Cablegate : US failed to dissuade Turkey from “meddling” with Iran. FM Davutoglu said Saudis viewed as “puppets” of the US.

  149. OK, I just got back from work….just tell me is Hillary coming out of this in one piece?? I don’t give a shit about anyone else!

    Does this prove he’s not up to the job?

  150. When Obama said he wanted open and transparent Govt, i did’nt expect the whole foreign diplomacy opened like a corpse on autopsy.
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    This is hope and change run riot.

  151. From wbboei’s link

    Reporter’s Note: Secretary Clinton says (as she has before) that she does not want to be President. I’m writing my daily letter to the White House (as I have before) saying, really?

    This “journalist” writes to the president, and it’s EVERY DAY? CNN should fire this guy, it’s clear evidence there is not objective journalism going on. The other station gives two guys suspensions for a couple days for donating money, but this guy can be daily corresponding with the WH, AND giving BO pointers and encouragement? Disgusting. He’s supposed to be a journalist, reporting the news, not trying to make it, not trying to hold the president’s hand. OMG.

  152. NYTimes has heavily edited/omitted/redacted the #WikiLeaks #CableGate documents to protect their dear leader, Obama.
    ————————-
    As expected. Inquiring minds will go elsewhere for their news. In the meantime, if we can find some specific piece of information they are withnolding from the American People to protect the Fraud, we should make noise about it.

  153. This “journalist” writes to the president, and it’s EVERY DAY? CNN should fire this guy, it’s clear evidence there is not objective journalism going on. The other station gives two guys suspensions for a couple days for donating money, but this guy can be daily corresponding with the WH, AND giving BO pointers and encouragement? Disgusting. He’s supposed to be a journalist, reporting the news, not trying to make it, not trying to hold the president’s hand. OMG.
    ———————————
    The guy should be fired for that reason and because he is a complete dork.

  154. Betty
    November 28th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    “[ Arson at mosque ] is a retaliation I can believe in: ”

    ===============

    From “FBI: attempted tree-lighting bomber Corvallis resident, former OSU student,” by Kelly Koopman for KVAL, November 27:

    But those words of violence never came up between Mohamud and his imam Yosof Wanly. Wanly said he had “average teacher-student” conversations with Mohamud and that he never thought an attack like this would even cross Mohamud’s mind.
    “In my humble opinion, there were wasn’t anything that would prompt me to think he would plan this. It’s completely, clearly, textually denounced in the Islamic religion,” said Wanly. “He took that initiative without seeking any advice from anybody and he went overboard.”
    Wanly said Mohamud had visited the Islamic center on an inconsistent basis for the last year and a half….

    Betty, an equivalent retaliation would be if someone read your post, contacted you pretending to be an anti-Muslim arsonist, led you on, gave you a cell phone that was supposed to start a fire in a mosque — but it was all fake and no damage was done.

    And in ‘retaliation’ for that, your own church really WAS set afire.

  155. ohanson
    November 28th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    What is the significant announcement in the article I posted at 10:14 is the fact, Christians will be uniting with the Jews to prevent the Muslim takeover in the US. And by the same token provide the means for Israel to fend off the taking of Israel’s lands by radical Muslims.

    That means, together, Christians and Jews will present a united front against Sharia Law in America as well-

    Although it will not happen through the auspices of the current resident in the white house.

  156. tim
    November 28th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    ===========

    “Details emerge about Mohamud, Westview / OSU student,” by Frank Mungeam for KGW, November 27:

    During elementary school, Mohamud moved 9,000 miles from the war-torn streets of Mogadishu to the suburbs of Portland. [….]
    Another of Mohamud’s former classmates remembered a fight the two had over a messy locker. “The main thing was, the way he said he hated Americans,” said Andy Stull. “It was serious. He looked me in the eye and had this look in his eye, like it was his determination in life – ‘I hate Americans!'”
    Stull says he was scared enough at the time to get school counselors involved, but that was the end of it.

    ================

    Funny looking foreign kid vs hometown kids who were Americans.

    Good thing the FBI stung him before someone gave him a trenchcoat and a real gun.

  157. As expected. Inquiring minds will go elsewhere for their news. In the meantime, if we can find some specific piece of information they are withnolding from the American People to protect the Fraud, we should make noise about it.
    _____________________

    The contents of the wikileaks will be published in major publications in France, Spain, Germany and Australia for a start. The NYT can redact all the want, it will amount to naught.

  158. Directive for UN spying was under Hillary’s name but that doesn’t mean she was the one who ordered it by her own decision. Does a Secretary of State even have that authority? It would seem to me to have to come from the White House or congress…

  159. Wiki Hysteria
    By Larry Johnson on November 28, 2010 at 2:13 PM in Current Affairs

    Oh MY GOD!! Julian Assange has leaked thousands State Department cables and our world is going to end. Jesus SAVE US!! The world might be subjected to an actual moment of candor from a U.S. diplomat serving in Kazakstan. Oh the humanity.

    If you have been trapped in a Chilean mine or otherwise occupied doing something meaningful you probably are out of the loop. NY Times has just published a news summary of this “AMAZING” data dump:

    A cache of a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables, most of them from the past three years, provides an unprecedented look at backroom bargaining by embassies around the world, brutally candid views of foreign leaders and frank assessments of nuclear and terrorist threats.

    Some of the cables, made available to The New York Times and several other news organizations, were written as recently as late February, revealing the Obama administration’s exchanges over crises and conflicts. The material was originally obtained by WikiLeaks, an organization devoted to revealing secret documents. WikiLeaks intends to make the archive public on its Web site in batches, beginning Sunday.

    The anticipated disclosure of the cables is already sending shudders through the diplomatic establishment, and could conceivably strain relations with some countries, influencing international affairs in ways that are impossible to predict.

    Sorry, but this is ridiculous.

    As someone who drafted more than 1000 cables during my tenure at State, the notion that this leak is going to shake up US policy or damage our relations overseas is wishful thinking. The ones really jazzed about this are the media. Once again they are reacting like 13 year old boys getting their first taste of pornography only they are being shown pictures of Hooter’s waitresses.

    If we are lucky we will find a 100 cables out of the more than 250,000 that will tell some uncomfortable but necessary truths. I encourage all of you to read through the cables posted. You will find mind numbing prose, banal details of largely meaningless meetings and a style of writing that is akin to Kabuki theater.

    I am more worried by the apparent surprise express by the New York Times over the so-called “revelations” from the stash of cables:

    Among their revelations, to be detailed in The Times in coming days:

    A dangerous standoff with Pakistan over nuclear fuel: Since 2007, the United States has mounted a highly secret effort, so far unsuccessful, to remove from a Pakistani research reactor highly enriched uranium that American officials fear could be diverted for use in an illicit nuclear device. . . .

    Gaming out an eventual collapse of North Korea: American and South Korean officials have discussed the prospects for a unified Korea, should the North’s economic troubles and political transition lead the state to implode. . . .

    Bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison: When American diplomats pressed other countries to resettle detainees, they became reluctant players in a State Department version of “Let’s Make a Deal.” . . .

    Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: . . .

    A global computer hacking effort: . . .

    Mixed records against terrorism: . . .

    So basically, the State Department diplomats are reporting on matters that the press also is covering and our national security is at risk because we suspect members of the Afghan government are corrupt? Jesus, what next? Are you also going to make the shocking discovery that your parents had sex and you were conceived?

    I suppose this is a nice distraction from the genuine worry that a war of terrible consequences will break out in Korea. But why worry about that when we can fret over Ambassador Snerdley’s candid observation that some third world tyrant is a corrupt asshole.

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    Oh my goodness! This is reprehensible. When will the madness end? I thank my lucky stars that the New York Times jumped right on top of this story. The New York Times has often chastized the “blogosphere” for putting forth “unfiltered” news. What about editors and peer review?

    I must lie down for a while because I feel faint now.
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    creeper
    When will Julian Assange turn his attention to leaking the document that really matters?
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    What’s next in consequence– Palin’s emails? Opps…
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    DM
    “So basically, the State Department diplomats are reporting on matters that the press also is covering and our national security is at risk because we suspect members of the Afghan government are corrupt?”

    Larry, it would make sense that the same diplomats that wrote the cables about the corruption in Afghanistan leaked the information to journalists. Some things are too obvious.

  160. what many modern pols really mean is “I am not running. At this moment. Probably not before nightfall. I’m testing the waters. Looking for interest. Studying the polls. And if I decide to run later, like say, by 8 a.m. tomorrow, you can’t hold me accountable for saying otherwise.”

    Not to make you uneasy, but I could easily see the kind of perfect political storm that would drive a Draft Hillary movement. …. And third, member of your party who haven’t exactly fallen in love with your policies…liberals, many of the Congressional powers, and moderates… decide to join forces to prevent what they fear will an embarrassing defeat, and Bob’s-Your-Uncle, Hillary becomes the candidate.

    ================

    Hope he’s right about that. I can’t see the Cheeto Kos types agreeing on Hillary.

    As to his first point — suppose there was a politician who really wasn’t wantng to run — what would she say?

  161. From what I have read so far, I don’t think our Hillary is in danger. First of all, these were all cables from the field to State Dept (not from State to the field) and they cover Bush II years mostly, continuing to Feb 2010. Most of them were unclassfied, raw, field cables.
    Secondly, the leaker Bradley Manning was from Defense Intelligence, not from State.
    Third, Whatever Hillary and her State dept do

  162. Sorry finger check above.

    Third, whatever Hillary and State do, they do it for the best interest of the country. Since these were low level, routine, diplo cables, high level instructions from the State would not generally be part of this.

    But this is an embarassment for the admin, no doubt, and by extension to Hillary. Her hard work for weeks on blunting this leak is showing. I think she will come through this okay.

  163. “That means, together, Christians and Jews will present a united front against Sharia Law in America as well-”

    ——————-

    Which therefore means that Christians and Jews will present a united front against U.S. notorious traitor: Barack Hussein Obama.

  164. hmmm…are we getting ready for bambi to do a new speech (stitches and all), i.e. damage control for his being a dollar short and a day late for the umpteenth time?

    This idiot has absolutely no leadership skills. “Global leader?” Not in this lifetime.

  165. You HAVE to love this woman. She knows these goat-fockers are rife with corruption and lies, all the while chastising The United States while thye have one hand out for money while the other throws rocks at women’s heads:

    Orders from Clinton
    US Diplomats Told to Spy on Other Countries at United Nations

    The US State Department gave its diplomats instructions to spy on other countries’ representatives at the United Nations, according to a directive signed by Hillary Clinton. Diplomats were told to collect information about e-mail accounts, credit cards and passwords, among other things.

    US diplomats are alleged to have been requested by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to spy on the diplomats of other countries at the United Nations. That was the purpose of the “National Humint Collection Directive,” which has been seen by SPIEGEL. The document was signed by Clinton and came into force on July 31, 2009.

    The information to be collected included personal credit card information, frequent flyer customer numbers, as well as e-mail and telephone accounts. In many cases the State Department also required “biometric information,” “passwords” and “personal encryption keys.” In the US, the term biometric information generally refers to fingerprints, passport photos and iris scans, among other things.

    The US State Department also wanted to obtain information on the plans and intentions of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and his secretariat relating to issues like Iran, according to the detailed wish list in the directive. The instructions were sent to 30 US embassies around the world, including Berlin.

    The detailed document also reveals which UN issues most interested the US government. These included: “Darfur/Sudan,” “Afghanistan/Pakistan,” Somalia, Iran and North Korea. Other top issues included Paraguay and the Palestinian Territories, eight West African states including Burkina Faso, Mauritania and Senegal, as well as various states in Eastern Europe.

    As justification for the espionage orders, Clinton emphasized that a large share of the information that the US intelligence agencies works with, comes from the reports put together by State Department staff around the world.

    Editor’s note: DER SPIEGEL’s full reporting on the WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables will be published first in the German-language edition of the magazine, which will be available on Monday to subscribers and at newsstands in Germany and Europe. SPIEGEL ONLINE International will publish extended excerpts of SPIEGEL’s reporting in English in a series that will launch on Monday.

    URL:

    * http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731587,00.html

  166. hmmm…are we getting ready for bambi to do a new speech (stitches and all), i.e. damage control for his being a dollar short and a day late for the umpteenth time?

    This idiot has absolutely no leadership skills. “Global leader?” Not in this lifetime.
    ———————-
    The LAST thing in the world the elites want is a leader. They want someone like Barack who can take orders and bamboozle the masses. From their standpoint, he is perfect for the role. A little sociopathic perhaps but controllable for fame and money.

  167. Does Hillary have the power to order that spying??? That’s so weird, but she’s a true American hero and has been looking after us all along.

  168. Oh i can see a lawsuit coming here, this will be epic as to who and how…..

    The Times, in an editor’s note published with the first several articles, said that the 250,000 cables “were made available to The Times by a source who insisted on anonymity” while also noting that the documents were “originally obtained by WikiLeaks.” So it’s unknown who the Times source is, and unclear exactly how that source would have the material but not be a part of WikiLeaks. For the last leak, regarding Iraq, the Times clearly sourced the documents as being made available by WikiLeaks.

    Dean Baquet, the Times Washington bureau chief, told The Cutline in an email that “it is true we did not get the documents directly from WikiLeaks.”

    “But I can’t go beyond that,” Baquet continued. “I think the other papers will have to answer questions about their arrangements.”

  169. wbboei
    November 28th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    The LAST thing in the world the elites want is a leader. They want someone like Barack who can take orders and bamboozle the masses. From their standpoint, he is perfect for the role. A little sociopathic perhaps but controllable for fame and money.

    ============

    Agreed! Daley gave him a recommendation as a figurehead who stays bought.

  170. She would have to sign it as Sec of State as her Dept, she may have raised objections however, i imagine the order would have come from the WH.

  171. moononpluto
    November 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    moon – I don’t think so, somehow I doubt it, remember this was the same pathetic admin who wanted to make the UN rep post a cabinet position for Susan Rice. Hillary does not trust the UN, Susan Rice does. I would wager it was Hillary who did this, and good for her to do this. She is one tough cookie, who is ever ready to answer the 1am, 2am and 3am call, she knows the ruthless lunatics she is dealing with at the UN.

  172. Ahmadinejad to Qatari PM: “We beat the Americans in Iraq; the final battle will be in Iran.” Nutjob confirmed.

  173. this will go down well for the Yemeni PM.

    Yemen to Petraeus: We’ll Take the Blame for Missile Strikes

    Politico reports on U.S. documents in which the President of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, told Gen. David Petraeus that he would continue to take the blames for U.S. missile strikes on suspected al Qaeda operatives in Yemen.

    “We’ll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours,” Saleh is quoted as saying in a recent summary of the talk.

    ………………………..

    I hope he has some good bodyguards…….

  174. Mop, I just keep seeing how King Abdullah was glad Obama was at the helm of the US and he was glad they put him there. This is something they are going to try to re-word. I have no doubt Hillary did what any patriot would have done. What a mess…of coarse can be dangerous for our country…Obama at the helm right now is just scary as shit!

  175. I cant keep up with how fast this is moving, the blogs and twitters are in the millions, this is beyond huge.

  176. Should the US ambassador to Paris just leave now.

    Sarkozy is described as an emperor with no clothes, thin-skinned and authoritarian, embarrassed by his shortness.

    Short thinskinned dictator would have been less time to write……………..jesus who hired these people.

  177. repairing the #CableGate damage is definitely going to take more than 12 stitches. Still wanna be President Bambi……….

  178. Just heard this leak may cause calls for Hillary Clinton to step down, i knew they would drop this on her. I fucking knew it.

  179. I’m not joking Tim, I’d never joke about this.

    The problem now is how much goodwill is there now, How does Hillary walk into any meeting with confidence behind her, she needs to work fast on this and put it down hard or Obama will see this as his chance of knocking her off.

    Not one of the administration has come out to defend her yet, not one.

  180. moon — you know what pisses me off, this fool in the WH has every freaking resource at his cowardly disposal, and he refused to stop some austrian pervert hiding in Iceland from releasing all this information that will severely hurt our country!!
    he had one freaking letter sent out, that’s it!!

    does this fool even understand the severity of this leaking, can he even comprehend how much this will hurt our country?? who’s he waiting for to get permission from to stop all this? George Soros?!?

    of course they will blame Bush and then blame Hillary(yes I noticed no one is comning out to defend her), the jerk cannot ever take responsibility for anything, nothing! forget the buck stopping with him, he doesn’t even know what that means!

  181. completely OT, I went to the grocery store today and there was a salvation army guy there ringing the bell, collecting donations.

    I spoke with him for a bit, seems they (nationwide) are very low this year on donations, if anyone can donate a little this year, this is an excellent charity, one of my favorites, they do such good work, helping out so many people, especially during the cold months and the economy being so bad. Just wanted to post this and pass it along.

  182. mop – what reason do those people give for thinking this leak is justification for asking Hillary to step down?

    She didn’t cause the leak. She can’t stop the leak. That just leaves whatever is in the documents – well, even less than that – it just leaves whatever she is quoted as saying or is responsible for. And my guess is, whatever leads to Hillary, can be seen as being important for the protection of this country.

    There will always be people who will look for anything to call for her to resign – that’s true of any public official, no one is loved by everyone. We need to wait to see what exactly comes of this. Some people wanting her to resign over it – well, what are the details, what did she do, and what was wrong with it? I’m not going to worry about that, until (if ever) there is something of substance. Some people blaming (what?) on her, that’s really to be expected – it doesn’t mean there’s anything “there”.

    And Tim – you mentioned that no one is coming out to defend her – but I haven’t heard any charges leveled at her. What would they be defending? I’m not following….?

    This leak is going to make her job harder, but I’d have to hear specific and substantiated charges against her, before I’ll worry that they can use this to ruin her. I imagine most people are going to feel safe that she is working to protecct our country (as opposed to playing basketball and apologizing for everything we have ever done)…

  183. Tim, just right, i was tlking earlier with a friend who works for a homeless charity in London, its currently -4 there and covered with snow. Everyone forgets there are people with no homes in that weather, he expects to find a few dead from hypothermia this week.

    Its very sad.

  184. Amid WikiLeaks uproar, Clinton heads to Central Asia

    By Andrew Quinn

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Amid a global uproar over WikiLeaks’ release of sensitive U.S. diplomatic cables, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton begins a trip to Central Asia and the Middle East on Monday, during which she may personally feel some heat from affronted allies.

    The State Department on Sunday formally announced Clinton’s trip, which takes take her first to Kazakhstan where world leaders including Russian President Dmitry Medevedev and German Chancellor Angela Merkel are also expected to attend a summit of the 56-nation Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

    In an illustration of the potential awkwardness, one cable is reported by Britain’s Guardian newspaper as describing Medvedev as being in a partnership with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in which he “plays Robin to Putin’s Batman.”

    Other documents cited by German news weekly Der Spiegel describe Merkel as someone who “avoids risk and is seldom creative” and her foreign minister, Guido Westerwelle, as arrogant, vain and critical of America.

    From Kazakhstan, Clinton travels to Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, two other former Soviet republics in Central Asia which have been targets of criticism in the past, before heading to Bahrain to deliver a speech on the U.S. security role in a region jittery over Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

    Clinton’s November 30-December 3 trip was planned before Sunday’s release of sensitive U.S. diplomatic communications provided by whistleblowing website WikiLeaks, which revealed sensitive U.S. views on foreign leaders, terrorism and nuclear proliferation in an embarassing blow to U.S. diplomacy.

    The U.S. government, informed in advance of the contents, has contacted governments around the world, including in Russia, Europe and the Middle East, to try to limit damage.

    But the release nevertheless promises to complicate Clinton’s mission, already overshadowed by the crisis on the Korean peninsula following North Korea’s artillery attack on a South Korean island last week.

    Among the revelations highlighted by the New York Times, one of five media organizations given early access to the Wikileaks material, were reports that Saudi King Abdullah has repeatedly urged the United States to attack Iran’s nuclear program, and China directed cyberattacks on the United States.

    CHALLENGING PROGRAM

    Other material indicates U.S. diplomats believe Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like al Qaeda; that they have been unsuccessfully seeking to remove highly enriched uranium from Pakistan; and they have been talking to South Korean officials about the prospects of a reunified Korea in a “benign alliance” with Washington.

    Clinton’s official program will present its own challenges.

    In Kazakhstan, the spotlight will fall on host President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s pledges — unfulfilled, according to human rights groups — to improve democracy and human rights in his oil-rich country.

    The two other Central Asian stops are both in countries which play important roles in the U.S.-led drive to oust the Taliban from nearby Afghanistan, but which have their own political problems.

    Clinton is due to meet President Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan, which the U.S. State Department this year dubbed Central Asia’s most authoritarian state but which nevertheless serves as a vital supply route for NATO operations in the Afghan conflict.

    She will also stop for talks in Kyrgyzstan — which hosts a major U.S. air transit facility for Afghanistan — in an effort to push political reconciliation following an April uprising that included ethnic clashes.

    Clinton’s final stop in Bahrain will give her a chance to brief regional leaders on both the Iranian nuclear issue and U.S.-brokered Middle East peace talks, both of which appear to be hanging in limbo.

    Tehran has expressed a readiness for discussions with major world powers on December 5 but the details have yet to be worked out and it is unclear whether talks will get under way over a program Western nations fear aims to produce an atomic bomb. Iran says its nuclear program is to generate electricity.

    In the Mideast, meanwhile, intensive U.S. diplomatic efforts to bring the Israelis and the Palestinians back to the negotiating table have yet to yield results, although U.S. officials are hopeful that new U.S. security guarantees for Israel may still allow direct talks to resume.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AR3RD20101128

  185. I think mainly its because she is the face of the diplomatic core, she will bear the brunt of any negative stuff.

    Never ever underestimate a political govt’s ability to save its own neck by throwing someone under the bus, we are talking Obama here.

    Don’t underestimate whats coming out here, i have this is just a small amount, there is more, a lot more.

    I feel the same way but i know how this works, someone is going to get it and i dont trust Obama.

    I feel she will be speaking to many many people abroad to repair the damage, she will be ok.

  186. In Canada, the media says the buck stops with “obama’s” administration.

    I wonder if the U.S. media will do the same or smear Hillary in order to save their false idol.

    ——————

    Obama ordered diplomats to spy on Canada

    By BRIAN LILLEY, Parliamentary Bureau
    November 28, 2010

    OTTAWA – The Obama administration ordered diplomats to spy on foreign governments and dignitaries – including here in Canada – as a way to provide key biographical data to the Central Intelligence Agency.

    The July 2009 directive to embassies around the world, including the one in Ottawa, asked diplomats to go beyond collecting the usual information of name, title and phone number. Diplomats were also asked to pass along “Internet and intranet ‘handles,’ Internet e-mail addresses, web site identification-URLs, credit card account numbers, frequent flyer account numbers, work schedules and other relevant biographical information.”

    The directive was one of thousands of diplomatic cables made public Sunday by WikiLeaks and media partners the New York Times, the Guardian and Der Spiegel.

    In addition to that very personal information, the directive also asked American diplomats to gather the views of their hosts or other dignitaries on a whole range of issues from hot security topics such as Darfur, Afghanistan and North Korea to issues such as climate change policy ahead of the Copenhagen negotiations that took place late last year.

    The news that President Barack Obama and his secretary of state Hillary Clinton wanted diplomats to spy on their Canadian hosts could strain the relationship between the U.S. embassy and Parliament Hill, especially in the short term.

    “Long-standing relations such as those with Canada and the U.K. will no doubt weather the storm. Relationships that are troubled, such as those with Turkey and Russia, could see some resettling,” said James Jay Carafano, a foreign policy expert with Washington’s Heritage Foundation.

    Carafano told QMI Agency that if there is credible evidence that Turkish officials gave material support to al-Qaida or that the U.S. was secretly negotiating side deals on missile defence with Russia, the White House will have some explaining to do.

    The order for American diplomats to spy on their hosts was sent to 32 embassies around the world and several American missions at United Nations sites. The other countries on the receiving end of the spy list include allies such as Britain, France and Israel and countries with less friendly relations such as Pakistan, China and Saudi Arabia.

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/11/28/16351311.html#/news/canada/2010/11/28/pf-16351306.html

  187. moon — are you in the UK right now? are they covering this nonstop? they aren’t covering it that much here. I have Fox News on right, they are only covering it at the top of each hour right now.

  188. Biggest leak in US history……..

    Where’s Hillary, touring Asia repairing damage

    Where’s Obama , No public or press appearances by the president tomorrow.

    I mean seriously wtf, does this man not comment on anything.

  189. Tim, I’m in Turkey, I have a huge sat dish and can pick up all of europe’s tv, its all over the place. The US media are being good little obama soldiers right now.

  190. I realize there are more to come out, but so far there seem to be only 3 that mention Hillary – if you look under keywords, and then select Hillary’s name.

    They seem to say she won’t deal with Hamas until their behavior is better, and that she wants Afgans to have better lives.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-spying-un

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/218775

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/248624

  191. mop, give BO a break, how can he comment, that 26 y/o sexist speechwriter is probably home with his mommy and daddy for the Thanksgiving holiday….

  192. “Paper would have been impossible to steal in these quantities” Sir Christopher Meyer, former British Ambassador to Washington DC

    sooooo true, see thats what technology has done for you, made us all faster, slacker and easier to wreck lives.

  193. oh jesus, mary and joseph and the little donkey….this is going just be hell……………

    “The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months” –> Wikileaks

  194. Such a flap. If they can steal them, they can forge them.

    Why don’t the secretaries just disavow all knowledge, denounce the ‘documents’ as forged or doctored?

  195. No, I’ve got it. The teleprompter reflected back the blemish of the little teensy tiny tear in his lip, and he couldn’t handle it. And, as he can’t speak without TOTUS, he couldn’t speak at all.

    Let’s face it. He doesn’t have the first clue what to say.

  196. haha

    Iranian Revolutionary Guard Chief of Staff Mohammed Ali Jafari in a heated argument with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, slapped him hard across the face.

  197. “The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months” –> Wikileaks
    ___________________________

    This means, they are saving the Best for last!

  198. “The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months” –> Wikileaks

    ——————–

    Well geez. Do ya think obama can maybe push himself to do something about this before then?

    I mean I know this can’t be as important as golf, basketball, and his ego-boosting exercises, but just maybe he can give an executive order here and there?

  199. When you think about all the orders to Spy

    “Obama ordered diplomats to spy on Canada” and look at what Obama was asking for – credit cards, passwords, handles, frequent flier numbers and such – doesn’t this sound a LOT more like an order from Obama’s Daddy? The havoc that could be caused by having this information given to a man like Soros by Barack Obama is mind-boggling. All the missing pieces for world-wide blackmail.

  200. IMO this is not the result of a hack job by a 22 year old pissant in intel. This has MUCH larger fingerprints.

  201. Prior to World War I there was a custom and practice in the British Secret Service. Sidney Reilly and Bruce Lockhart were the obvious exceptions, but everyone else was a gentleman in the finest sense of the word, and would never stoop to spying on other gentlemen just because they happened to be enemies, even if it could save tens of thousands of innocent lives. Since every nation spies on every other nation today–except for Luxembourg, I would say when in Rome . . . except if I were to say that someone might think Putin put me up to it. Hooray for Hillary who is busy protecting the country by watching what our adversaries are doing and HUYA for Barack–(head up yer ass, and Mexican midgets elbow in your mouth say goodnight Barack and visions of sugar plums danced in his head)who is too busy corking off. On Korea he faltered and China filled the leadership vaccuum. In the future our allies in the region will be inclined look to Peking rather than Washington. And to the great Barack Hussein Obama I would say what Demonsthenes said to the Athenian Senate:

    “Our business is not to speculate on what the future may bring forth, but to be certain it will bring disaster unless you face the facts and consent to do your duty.” (First Phillioppic at p. 50).

  202. “Well geez. Do ya think obama can maybe push himself to do something about this before then?”
    ___________________________

    Strange isn’t it? His mouth is out of commission and is almost literally incommunicado. Not even a strong statement forthcoming from Gibbs condemning the release of classified intraoffice communications. Coincidence? To me, this whole thing is beginning to stink to high heaven.

    I’ve been reading everyone’s comments here regarding the wikileaks and it seems mop has the best handle on the information released so far. I have to ask, in what order was the info about Secretary Clinton released?

    I really don’t know because I’ve had family business to attend to today.. From what I’ve read so far, and I might have it wrong. Was it the second or third release that had directives for spying on other countries embassy officials pinned to Hillary?

    I did happen to catch some of the evening news that said some of the SOS leaks contained orders from Condi Rice- Was Hillary’s name specifically mentioned in the leak? Was the information dated to coincide with when she began her tenure?

  203. haha

    Iranian Revolutionary Guard Chief of Staff Mohammed Ali Jafari in a heated argument with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, slapped him hard across the face.
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    There are times when life imitates art, and this happens to be one of them. It is like a Three Stooges Movie.

  204. wbboei
    November 28th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    So this is world shattering information that is going to reverse the polaritys of the North and South pole?

  205. Norma Desmond
    November 28th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    IMO this is not the result of a hack job by a 22 year old pissant in intel. This has MUCH larger fingerprints.

    ————————–

    Nothing would surprise me.

  206. moononpluto
    November 28th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    This leaked Cable should send shivers right down any americans spine

    Saudi King Abdullah: “Thank God for bringing Obama to the presidency”

    So the king thinks he’s god now does he
    ***************

    That doesn’t make any sense does it? Wouldn’t he say, thank Allah? Am I wrong here?

  207. some of these ambassadors could replace Jackie Collins for bitchiness.
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    Some of them are career foreign service officers, and others are Obama campaign contributors. It is reasonable to assume that the bitchiness comes from the political hacks, not the foreign service officers. To the extent that is true, Hillary is not responsible because she did not put them in those positions where they took cheap shots, ran their mouth and failed to observe proper protocol. Keep that in mind when you think about how all this will affect Hillary. A leader meets the problem head on, and a coward cringes. Hillary is a leader and Barack is a coward by any definition of the word.

  208. Saudi King Abdullah: “Thank God for bringing Obama to the presidency”
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    This confirms my theory about Saudi involvement–all the way back to his admission to Harvard–to the secret money they poured into his campaign.

  209. If your read all the BS from all the blogs in bits and pieces and believe what they say… you are a sheep following the herd.

    I prefer disseminating the facts as they are coming out. The reason why I asked for more specific information.

  210. IMO this is not the result of a hack job by a 22 year old pissant in intel. This has MUCH larger fingerprints.

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    Nothing would surprise me.
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    It is the kind of thing you would expect from Chinese intelligence (PLA) . . . or John Kerry (who has no intelligence).

  211. I have no use for Larry Johnson.
    ——————————-
    Do you disagree with is analysis of this situation as well? I posted it at 4:45 above. I think Hillary is doing what the situation requires, and Barack is on the lam. Foreign policy is dictated by strategic interests, and those will not change. Again what I look for in crisis situations is a measured response, and a willingness to meet the problem head on. If you can keep your head while all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, etc. She is doing it and Barack is failing to test of leadership– once again.

  212. So far, the only leak that has anything serious about the contents is aimed at Hillary… King Abdullah- indeed. He has funneled money to the Taliban.. So far nothing negative about Obama- just Hillary.

    Obama has been worried for months Hillary is going to challange him in a Primary. He needs something affecting her credibility to submarine her chances even if she were drafted.

  213. “Obama ordered diplomats to spy on Canada”
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    Well now there is a smoking gun for you. Even a messiah can have a bad hair day. It ain’t Hillary anymore. Now lets see if the New York Times prints that–if they print the charge against Hillary on the UN.

  214. Barack is failing to test of leadership– once again.
    ______________

    Not really- he’s hiding behind a cut lip as an excuse for not speaking boldly against the wikileaks. That is a deliberate strategic move not a failure.

  215. IMO this is not the result of a hack job by a 22 year old pissant in intel. This has MUCH larger fingerprints.
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    Soros has the will and capacity to do this . . . .

  216. Not really- he’s hiding behind a cut lip as an excuse for not speaking boldly against the wikileaks. That is a deliberate strategic move not a failure.
    ————————————————————–
    I said he is failing the test of leadership. Motive is irrelevant.

  217. “Obama ordered diplomats to spy on Canada”
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    The Canadian Prime Minister announced 3 days ago he would not attent the “hate fest” at the UN. Well before the release of the leaks today.

    http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101125/kenney-un-racism-conference-101125/20101125/?hub=MontrealHome

    And furthermore, The PM never liked Obama because he wouldn’t lie for him when he was asked to about NAFTA by a member of Obama’s staff… I’m sure the PM was already aware Obama ordered diplomats to spy on him through his own Canadian intel… Sorry, no smoking gun there…

  218. Motive is irrelevant
    ______________________

    Poppycock- every bit of news passing over the airwaves has motive. Propaganda is a big motivator for keeping the masses under control.

  219. I wouldn’t be surprised if BO’s name is not mentioned much in these leaks. He’d had to have an opinion, do some work, sit at a desk, in order for his name to get attached to something.

    I’m thinking now that voting present then = being disengaged now…..

    He just doesn’t seem involved. I read articles saying that he breezes into meetings late, stays about 10 minutes, then breezes back out again. He just sure doesn’t seem very engaged in his job….

  220. gonzotx
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:09 am

    I don’t respect Larry Johnson either
    ______________________

    When you promote selling can openers and super duper coat hangers on your website, you’re dealing with a mercenary mentality.

  221. The point is he has failed the test of leadership. Whether he did so intentionally, negligently or whatever his reason for doing so was, it does not alter the fact that he has failed the test of leadership. You cannot say he did not fail the test of leadership because he had other motives. He failed the test of leadership because the extant situation called for him to address the issue in the moment and failed to do that. He hid and that is not leadership.

  222. “He just sure doesn’t seem very engaged in his job”
    ________________________

    The only thing Obama is engaged in is making sure Hillary doesn’t run against him in a Primary. Thats it-

    His ego won’t let him be a one term president.

  223. I don’t respect Larry Johnson either
    ===================================
    So what? You don/t like the messenger. Neither does Mrs. Smith. The issue is not the messenger, it is the message. What is your opinion of the message?

  224. The only thing Obama is engaged in is making sure Hillary doesn’t run against him in a Primary. Thats it-

    His ego won’t let him be a one term president.
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    If that is his strategy then the Republicans will make short work of him.

  225. “The point is”
    ______________________

    Why are the wikileaks coming out now?

    Who will be damaged the most because of their contents? Obama or Hillary?

    Why won’t the wikileaks be released in waves of importance rather than over the course of months?

  226. #Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:12 am
    ______________________

    When you promote selling can openers and super duper coat hangers on your website, you’re dealing with a mercenary mentality.

    ————————

    Mercenary mentality?! You don’t know what you’re talking about. Stop spreading nonsense, he is a good guy and you don’t have to read his blog.

  227. If that is his strategy then the Republicans will make short work of him.
    ___________________________

    You mean like they did in the last Primary? If you want her to be blindsided again then go ahead and promote that promise.

  228. moononpluto, I too am concerned that Hillary will get hurt by this wikileaks thing and Obama will benefit by that. At the end of the day, we have to ask the question like the good detective Ms. Marple, ‘who benefits from the ‘murder’?

  229. A moment of levity. This concerns Hatch who the tea party activists are targeting.

    Well Doug, when Borin Orin Hatch finally does get put down and stuffed by the Tin Hat Tea Party Crowd we can all rest assured that he will have a nice cushy job at Lindquist Mortuary as a coffin model. In fact he coulda got that job any time during the last 20 years – what with his pasty complexion, deadly boring speech patterns and the general funeral parlor bearing he is so famous for. It is kind of fun to see him squirm in the face of those Mad Tea Party folks, it is the most life he has shown in nigh on thirty years

  230. But Mrs. Smith, there’s another way to look at it. If his favorability is still low and he’s not certain his cheating will work this time, I don’t think his ego will allow him to run – because his ego couldn’t handle losing.

    And he does seem incredibly bored (as a result of being in over his head and not being interested in anything not having to do with himself).

  231. pm317
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    If Larry is a personal friend of your; I commend you for defending him. He isn’t a friend of mine and I’ll leave it at that-

  232. rimary. Thats it-

    His ego won’t let him be a one term president.
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    If that is his strategy then the Republicans will make short work of him.

    =================

    that’s what we hoped in 2008.

  233. “because his ego couldn’t handle losing.”
    ______________

    Obama/Soros bought the Diebold voting machines after the last election and the man who is the chief operator/programmer for those machines.

    Remember in the midterms, there were seemingly high return numbers for Barney Frank and Deval Patrick in MA? Their low poll numbers weren’t reflected concurrently in the election returns. They both retained their seats and according to the polls just before the elections, they shouldn’t have…

  234. I believe prosecutors would be within their rights to seek the death penalty against the young soldier who hacked this information. The charge would be espionage.

  235. that’s what we hoped in 2008.
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    2008 was a verdict on Bush.

    2012 will be a verdict on Obama.

  236. The average American has regular contact with the federal government at three points – the IRS, the post office and the TSA. Start with that fact if you are formulating a unified field theory to explain the public’s current political mood.

    — George F. Will

  237. That statement by King Abdullah is most surprising as he admits bringing Obama to the Presidency. That could be why Obama bowed to him Huh?

    I only read where Hillary told them to spy….is that some sord of crime, because Rice started it first!

    I also hear of a huge transfer of money from the Queen to Bush, just read a tweet about that, not sure if its true!

  238. Mrs.Smith, There is an insurance file that is posted at Wikileaks that has not been released yet, but Assange has said it will be released soon. Wouldn’t it be nice if this takes Obmama down, but it certainly kicks the NWO people in the ass.

  239. 2008 was a verdict on Republicans- But that has no bearing on the silence of the Republicans who we were waiting for to disassemble Obama with oppo research on Rezko, birth certificategate, college transcripts, his stint as a community organizer representing the owner of the apartments rather than “his” constituents freezing without heat during a bitter Chicago winter.

  240. Some may even think this is a huge distraction so we’ll be watching this shell while they move the other shell and its all a game…not sure what it is but something could seriously happen with the Koreas at each others throat. THe struggle between the two superpowers is between China and the US!

  241. I wouldn’t be surprised if BO’s name is not mentioned much in these leaks. He’d had to have an opinion, do some work, sit at a desk, in order for his name to get attached to something.

    I’m thinking now that voting present then = being disengaged now…..

    He just doesn’t seem involved. I read articles saying that he breezes into meetings late, stays about 10 minutes, then breezes back out again. He just sure doesn’t seem very engaged in his job….
    ———————-
    Excellent points. Except he did personally authorize espionage on our neighbor to the north. That is the problem with not voting present. It is like the Saga of Jennie . . .

  242. Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:34 am
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    Why bother saying stupid things about him if all you know is that he worked for the CIA. What else do you know about him, friend or not?

  243. 2008 was a verdict on Republicans- But that has no bearing on the silence of the Republicans who we were waiting for to disassemble Obama with oppo research on Rezko, birth certificategate, college transcripts, his stint as a community organizer representing the owner of the apartments rather than “his” constituents freezing without heat during a bitter Chicago winter.
    ——————————–
    2012 will be a verdict on Obama.

  244. confloyd
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Mrs.Smith, There is an insurance file that is posted at Wikileaks that has not been released yet, but Assange has said it will be released soon. Wouldn’t it be nice if this takes Obmama down, but it certainly kicks the NWO people in the ass.
    _______________________

    Basicaly, all I’m saying is keep your eye on the ball. The first serious volley to be shot over the bow was aimed at Hillary.. not Obama. Obama’s letter/request to the Wikileaker was a weak demand letter about as effective as stamping your feet and going waaaah!

  245. pm317
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:56 am
    Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:34 am
    ———————–

    Why bother saying stupid things about him if all you know is that he worked for the CIA. What else do you know about him, friend or not?
    ________________

    The thing is- I have a right to my opinon wheater you like it or not. What is between Larry and myself is none of your business. You can be as nasty as you want to be… so bring it pm317!

  246. Obama’s letter/request to the Wikileaker was a weak demand letter about as effective as stamping your feet and going waaaah!
    ——————————–
    Like everything else he does as president perhaps? Or do you smell a Hungarian rat?

  247. “Like everything else he does as president perhaps? Or do you smell a Hungarian rat?”
    __________________________

    You know I do- and why I posed the question at my post @12:21 for more info… and why I asked moon- he seems to be the most organized with the release order of the leaks..

  248. Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 1:02 am

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    I have no interest in being nasty to you. I have made my point for the readers here.

  249. pm317
    November 29th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    I have no interest in being nasty to you. I have made my point for the readers here.
    _______________

    No, you have to accept what I’ve given you as a response because that is all you are going to get from me.

  250. confloyd
    November 29th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Some may even think this is a huge distraction so we’ll be watching this shell while they move the other shell and its all a game…

    =====================

    Most US media flaps probably are distractions. But if Assenge is not a USian and is operating far outside the US, then maybe he has other motives.

  251. the silence of the Republicans who we were waiting for to disassemble Obama with oppo research

    =================

    When we hoped they would make short work of him in 2008. If things don’t improve, the GOP may not want the WH again in 2012 either. Obama is doing their dirty work for them with his Catfood Commission etc and they may want him to continue.

    Hope in 2012 the voters do make a verdict on Obama — and on the GOP too.

  252. Some of Governor Sarah Palin’s Accomplishments that garnered her a whopping 92% approval rating:

    Energy Independence, Development, and Environmental Stewardship

    *Governor Palin’s cornerstone accomplishment is AGIA (Alaska Gasline Inducement Act). During the Palin administration, TransCanada and Exxon formed an alliance to build a natural gas pipeline from Alaska to the Lower 48. Under Governor Palin’s governance, the project was expanded and revised from what previous governors had proposed with an open policy process for the Alaskan people. More progress was made on this effort than in the previous 30 years. This is the largest private sector infrastructure project in North American history and helps put us on the path to energy independence.

    *Governor Palin’s administration opened up drilling for oil and natural gas at Pt. Thompson for the first time in decades.

  253. by Dewey Whetsell

    The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it…It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.

    1- Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits. The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar. But while you’re thinking, I’ll continue.

    2- Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So, she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES”. Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

  254. Wikileaks : President Obama traded the anti-missile shield plan in Poland and the Czech Republic to get Russia support for UN sanctions against Iran, documents made public by Wikileaks reveal.

  255. Mrs . Smith
    November 28th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    ohanson
    November 28th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    What is the significant announcement in the article I posted at 10:14 is the fact, Christians will be uniting with the Jews to prevent the Muslim takeover in the US. And by the same token provide the means for Israel to fend off the taking of Israel’s lands by radical Muslims.
    That means, together, Christians and Jews will present a united front against Sharia Law in America as well-

    Although it will not happen through the auspices of the current resident in the white house.

    =======================
    Thank you for pointing to the “significant announcement in the article” you posted, as it was not clear to me why you had posted that. I am rather cautious of the views espoused by fundamentalists of any religion, so a lengthy post of what seemed to me to be something holding up Christian fundamentalism sent my head spinning a bit.

    An article refuting in detail the article you posted can be found at http colon slash slash zbigniewmazurak.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/

    One might ask which article would tend to best represent Hillary Clinton’s view of world affairs.

    My view is that the bad guys–supranational old family banking cartels, or new world order utopians–however one wants to name them, are masters at setting up, or fanning the flames of all sorts of disagreements, rivalries and wars so that peaceful development and cooperation won’t happen, and so that their self-fulfilling prophecy/wet dream of humankind being no more than a beast competing in a jungle be fulfilled—always with them as the anointed rulers, of course.

    I’ll tell ya… if the Irish people can stop their government from the bailout of the core of the empire’s banks (money-laundering operations and off-shore hedge funds, etc.) their game is about up. And they know it. So now we are down to either we expose them now as the financially bankrupt institutions they actually are (leaving aside for the moment the fact of morally bankrupt), and put the U.S. and world financial monetary system through bankruptcy reorganization, keeping necessary banking going and scrapping the financial weapons of mass destruction, OR, starting with the trans-Atlantic nations, we accelerate our slide into inhuman austerity enforced by police state type horrors, wars, starvation, pandemics…

    Empires. do. not. work. as an economic model. They can not win. They can only take billions of people down with them. What works is:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Sorry for rant. I seldom have time to post.

  256. “I am rather cautious of the views espoused by fundamentalists of any religion, so a lengthy post of what seemed to me to be something holding up Christian fundamentalism sent my head spinning a bit.”
    ___________________________

    agreed. Any form of radicalism should be denounced as it’s use is couched in a play for power using a warped, inhumane, version of religion for control of the masses. Islam is the only religion I’m aware of that advocates death to any persons not of their beliefs.

  257. Most US media flaps probably are distractions. But if Assenge is not a USian and is operating far outside the US, then maybe he has other motives.
    —————————-
    Connie: can you find any link between this guy and Soros? On the surface, it would seem counterintuitive since he put Barack in office and it is hard to imagine that he would undermine his own asset. But given Soros’s stated intention to bring down the United States, even as big media continues to treat him as an avuncular philanthropist because of the money he gives to people like Moyers, Brokaw (they sit on his committees you see)it makes logical sense that he would do so. The other possibilities are a foreign government, like China. But the motive here is to throw our diplomatic operations into chaos. It is in fact a political meltdown of the White House, and Hillary is trying to save the day. I hope his lip is healing up fine. We must keep our priorities straight. Nice work Barack. As far a CNN censoring the news, remember their correspondent (?) Tom Forskin who writes torrid love letters to Obama every day–cleverly disguised as policy recommendations. That tells you all you need to know about their supposed objectivity.

  258. Looks like someone forced him out as it looked like he was avoiding it like the plague.

    WH says Pres. Obama will make a statement to reporters at 1135

  259. “Look at the difference, one is CNN USA, one is CNN international.”
    _______________________

    Interesting find, moon, thanks. This dynamic is just another cog in the wheel demonstrating our media’s (paid) penchant for soft peddling damning evidence in the government’s interest. Parlay this info with the coming sterilization of the internet under, I believe, the Dept of Commerce and Homeland Security, dispatched through one of Obama’s forthcoming 30 Executive Orders.

  260. NewMexicoFan
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    The bots are blamming the voting site, voting no for Hillary. The comments section if full of Hillary negatives. Just goes to show how scared Obama is of Hillary running.

  261. Pres. Obama’s announcement at 1135a has to do with a federal employee pay freeze. Details yet to come.

    Seriously, he’s gonna ignore the biggest elephant in the room, If he ignores the leak, the reporters will rip him but then again, the bastards are’nt reporting it properly anyway.

  262. The same elite political and financial class who are robbing the British citizens of their identity and democracy are behind the Obama coup on this side of the pond. MP Nigel Farage calls the game on him, just as someone over here should call the game on Messiah Obama, once he emerges from hiding in response to the latest crisis. The catch line? “If you rob people of their identity and their democracy–as Obama is doing, then all you have left is violence”, etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg&feature=player_embedded

  263. Here is what the old bull of the House John Dingel (D-MI) meant when he said we are putting the systems in place to control the American People. His specific reference was to Obama care, but the overall goal is the substitution of plutocracy and bureaucracy for democracy–just as we see today in Europe. There is real clarity of thought here.
    ——————————————————-

  264. Yes, we are going to balance the budget on the backs of the Federal Employees. Always happens, yet the rich need their tax cut. Now that would be worthy of a press conference. Just compare the amount save from the Federal Employees to taking away the tax break for the rich.

    We are playing mind games here. There are no rich people in the Federal Government employment, or they would not be there.

  265. wbb:

    Both of those videos are key to Obots and Leftists sitting on the fence, not able to understand what it is about Obama that is wrong. Blind loyalty is part of their problem because they are not getting true information that would trigger their critical thinking skills to an understanding Obama is stealing away our democracy inch by inch until finaly we are under the control of the president of the European Union.

    It has already been stated by the EU President any country breaking his rules will have their voting rights taken away. The Founders must be spinning in their graves at the prospect of seeing the blood shed, when we seperated from the UK King George, laid to waste through the ignorance of citizens so blind and too lazy to take a stand protecting our Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

  266. “Connie: can you find any link between this guy and Soros? ”

    FWIW – Beck this morning reported that Assange’s lawyer does pro-bono work for the Open Society Institute.

  267. “Look at the difference, one is CNN USA, one is CNN international.”

    Thanks Moon.

    wbboei
    November 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    that should send chills down every America-loving, US-Constitution-loving resident, I had read what Dingell said, but to see it is frightening. Good thing this a$$hole is no longer going to be in congress, 40 freaking years off the public dole is more than enough!

  268. a bit closing the door after the horse bolted…..muppets.

    WhiteHouse orders fed agencies 2 tighten procedures on classified info

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/post-wikileaks-white-house-pushes-government-to-batten-down-the-hatches-.html#tp

    The White House today instructed federal departments and agencies to take immediate steps to try to prevent any future Wikileaks-like disclosures.

    “The recent irresponsible disclosure by WikiLeaks has resulted in significant damage to our national security,” wrote director of the Office of Management and Budget Jack Lew, in a memo posted this morning at the OMB website. “Any failure by agencies to safeguard classified information pursuant to relevant laws… is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.”

    Each federal department and agency that handles classified information is being instructed to create a “security assessment team” to review the implementation of procedures to safeguard such information, a review to include making sure that no employee has access to information beyond what is necessary to do his or her job effectively.

    The instruction seemed a reference to US Army Private Bradley Manning, an army intelligence analyst arrested who was stationed in Iraq and is thought to be the source for the hundreds of thousands of documents leaked to Wikileaks. Manning was arrested in May and is awaiting court martial.

    It was unclear why this memo is being released now, after the third Wikileaks document dump, instead of after the first one.

  269. “Assange’s lawyer does pro-bono work for the Open Society Institute.”
    ___________________

    There it is! I knew something was fishy yesterday about the release of the wikileaks targeting Hillary within the first three leaks. The wikileaks will be Obama’s epitaph. Once it becomes known Soros is standing in the shadows orchestrating a stealth campaign attempting to damage Hillary’s credibility with questionable leaks undermining her chances for even a draft. We are all clinging to the hope Hillary will be drafted for a Primary run against Obama and Soros is using mental distopia to dash the hopes of even her most stalwart supporters.

    You have my eternal thanks, Norma Desmond for posting that gem-

  270. moononpluto
    November 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am

    I don’t understand, I thought that Manning tresonous man was arrested 8 months ago, why wasn’t this review done immediately after he was arrested??

    I cannot believe how incompetent this admin is, I was under the assumption that as soon as the treasonous man was arrested, all the precautions and tightening up of security was done to prevent further leaks.

  271. Beck this morning reported that Assange’s lawyer does pro-bono work for the Open Society Institute.
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    Then that is the connection. This is a Soros engineered thing–like his crashing of the British pound in 1992 (which he admits), his creation of the Asian Crisis of 1997 (which he pleads no lo contendre), to his taking down former Soviet Republics like Georgia and Ukraine (which he referred to as The Soros Empire), to his confiscation of personal effects of people bound for death camps in 1944 and his denial of any regrets in a 60 minutes interview 48 years later, to the tanking of the US economy in 2008 to get his man in the White House (which he denies) to his conviction for currency manipulation by France (which he is appealing)–a global Hannibal Lector he is, and Obama is his prophet (profit).

  272. “I cannot believe how incompetent this admin is, I was under the assumption that as soon as the treasonous man was arrested, all the precautions and tightening up of security was done to prevent further leaks.”
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    Tim, Probably the DOJ took his information and are combing through it to use the most damaging information again their enemies. The “tell” was the statement saying the Saudi King Abdullah: “I am happy Obama is President”.

  273. I hesitate to say this was obvious but it all looks like it was done to embarrass Hillary. So far the two damaging things I see coming out of these leaks are the spying (but then again who would not) but it reveals Hillary/Obama hand/strategy and the other thing is the deal making for the Gitmo prisoners selling Obama appearances. We have to wait to see how Hillary responds to this and how others respond to her and her future diplomatic efforts. But then again it may all fizzle out because these are politicians and every country does this sort of thing.

  274. Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    That’s a good point, it looks like when those first leaks a few months ago were released and those were hurting our troops, when the first leak was dumped, there was not that much outrage because it was hurting Bush & the admin and press were ok with that, but now that it is embarassing Obama, all this outrage.

    This nonsense should have been “nipped in the bud” as Barney Fife would say. It hurts our troops, and hurts our country, I don’t care if it embarasses Obama, the man is an incompetent idiot, but more importantly, much more so, it hurts our troops and our intelliegence gathering abilites and our country, it should have been “nipped in the bud” immediately.

  275. “But then again it may all fizzle out because these are politicians and every country does this sort of thing.” PM317

    Yes, you are right, they do.

  276. “But then again it may all fizzle out because these are politicians and every country does this sort of thing.”

    However other countries are not having their secrets splayed out on front pages for the next few months.

  277. I just figured last night that this could be a set up to make the market go nuts and to undermine Hillary…it just looked like it was to make Hillary look bad.

    This is probably why she is flying off to do some more work, she’s ignoring the whole thing!

  278. I hesitate to say this was obvious but it all looks like it was done to embarrass Hillary. So far the two damaging things I see coming out of these leaks are the spying (but then again who would not) but it reveals Hillary/Obama hand/strategy and the other thing is the deal making for the Gitmo prisoners selling Obama appearances. We have to wait to see how Hillary responds to this and how others respond to her and her future diplomatic efforts. But then again it may all fizzle out because these are politicians and every country does this sort of thing.
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    This thing is much larger than an effort to take down Hillary. Besides, it undermines Obama as well. This is an effort to destroy the leadership role of the United States on the world scene. Soros has stated explicitly that this is his goal. He is tied to the website founder. And he has brought down countries politically and economically in the past. There is little doubt in my mind that he is behind it.

  279. Now its the government’s turn to say, “Don’t touch my Junk!! Hows it feel to be run through the naked scanner.

    Well they have been spying on us for years as private citizens, nice to get our own back for once.

  280. “can you find any link between this guy and Soros?”

    Assange and Soros are joined at the hip. Assange won some award in 2009 from an organization Soros funds.

    I heard about it while driving and listening to talk radio. I’ll see if I can find more details.

  281. “There is little doubt in my mind that he is behind it.”

    Beck recently played many of Soros’s past recent speeches, the man [soros] loathes America and hates its sovereinty as well as the US Constitution. The day the undemocratic party made this far lefty radical their main money guy is the day the undemocratic party ceased to be the party of JFK, and now it has been taken over by far left radicals.

  282. I view this as a form of blackmail against the United States and world leaders. That, I submit, is the reason why they are dumping it in istallments. The threat that more is coming creates a sword of Damocles over the heads of world leaders at a time of financial crisis and other megapolitical changes. This is classic Soros. He is in fact the last living Nazi.

  283. wbboei
    November 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Agreed. Sadly, when Bill Clinton was being impeached I remember I donated to moveon because I wanted to help any organizations that were helping BC, I shutter now at my donations to this radical far lefty America-hating organizations. Thank God for the internet, the information is so much easier to obtain, the truth is so much easier to obtain, without the filter of liberal lying bias of the lame media.

  284. moononpluto, you’re right other countries are not exposed here (and it is a given that away from the mikes and behind the scenes who knows what they say about Obama and his admin — we can all guess, ;)) and they know now of Obama admin strategy and some secrets. For instance, there is an article in the Indian paper with this “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described India as a “self-appointed front-runner” for a permanent UNSC seat… ” Ouch, Indians will not like that but that won’t stop them from trying to work on US to support their goal. There will be mistrust and bruised egos but life will go on.

  285. Now its the government’s turn to say, “Don’t touch my Junk!! Hows it feel to be run through the naked scanner.

    Well they have been spying on us for years as private citizens, nice to get our own back for once.
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    Amen. The Golden Rule.

  286. “self-appointed front-runner” for a permanent UNSC seat… ” Ouch, Indians will not like that but that won’t stop them from trying to work on US to support their goal
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    If that is enough to ruffle their feathers they are pretty thin skinned. The comment seems rather benign to me. If that is all the worse it gets then we are lucky. If the ambassador is an Obama contributor rather than a career foreign service officer, then it is likely that it will be worse, in India and everywhere else he has installed one of his plutocratic cronies.

  287. Hillary is suppose to make a comment on Fox soon! I wonder what it will be about??? Obama sure did not want to say anything about it. This just reaks of a Soros planted information to show up the State Dept. He is a wicked old man. Maybe he thinks Hillary will start a war with Iran or North Korea? This guy should be on the terrorist list!

  288. More on Assange.

    ‘The spat between Assange and the human rights groups appears to mark a major falling out.

    Last year he won Amnesty (International’s) award for new media work for exposing extrajudicial killings in Kenya.

    The Open Society international, a Soros group is among those now criticizing Assange.

    Interesting.

    Guardian (London)
    August 10, 2010

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-war-logs-wikileaks-human-rights-groups

    Human rights groups have urged the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks to remove thousands of names from the leaked Afghanistan war logs over fears of “deadly ramifications” for the people identified.

    Five human rights organisations including Amnesty International and the Open Society Institute, have written to WikiLeaks to express their concerns about the biggest leak in U.S. military history, according to the *Wall Street Journal*.

  289. We will miss the point here if we look at this thing solely in terms of Hillary. This is an attack on the United States. She is fighting back. Obama is hiding.

  290. Here’s the latest from the insider…..and I’m waiting on Hillary to speak on FOx about the leaks…

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    te House Insider: The Media Elected Obama – Not The American People
    Published by Ulsterman on November 29, 2010 in Opinions
    Tags: democrats, government, news, Politics, republicans
    The first part of our most recent D.C. Insider interview reflects on just how far the media went to protect and promote Barack Obama during the 2008 campaign, including helping secure John McCain as Obama’s Republican opponent.

    Author’s Note: Per Insider’s request, this interview will not specifically discuss the events presently unfolding around the Obama White House, but rather look back on how the media acted as a shield to protect then-candidate Obama in 2007 and 2008. According to Insider, readers must better understand the media’s previous complicity in order to more fully realize what this same media will likely attempt to do in the near future in minimizing the political damage that is soon to be inflicted upon the Obama administration.

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    Did you enjoy the holiday? Very much – thank you.

    There was a long delay in responding to my messages – why? Things were getting a bit…tenuous in recent weeks with all of this. Things had been set in motion – you helped with that, but now others are, as I said before, picking up the ball and running with it. And frankly, I wanted you to start digging up some stuff on your own. I had pointed you to where some of the bodies were buried, and felt you needed to do some work on your end instead of always waiting for me to tell you more. Also…I’m busy. Nothing personal – but I’m very busy these days.

    Read more in Opinions
    « Life in Obamaland: Ruining The CountryBiggest Enemy of All Time, “Corruption” »So you said you wanted to talk about 2008 some more, but not about what is going on with the Obama White House right now – the DOJ report, the Supreme Court case, the additional staff departures, the media reports indicating a rift between Obama and Pelosi, how Pelosi maintained her party leadership position – none of that? You don’t want to elaborate on any of this developing information? Yeah – that’s right. All of those things you listed off there, I believe I laid out when we talked before, right? I mean, how many times do I have to prove myself to you? How many times do I have to be right on this? I said watch for this, and this, and this, and here you go – it’s happening now. It’s picking up speed and happening now. If that’s not good enough for you or anyone else…-expletive- it. As for Pelosi, I’m looking into what went down with that. Hey, the White House was pushing her out, and then all of a sudden it wanted her back in. That happens for a reason – I got my ideas, but I’m not sure yet. That’s gonna have to do for now. That’s gonna have to be good enough.

    It’s good enough for me – I never said it wasn’t did I? I read your last “report”, or summary, or whatever you want to call it. You were calling me out there. Don’t insult my intelligence kid. You were calling me out. You wanna know my first reaction when I read that? -Expletive- you. That’s what I said. –Expletive- you – who the –expletive- do you think you are? …Whatever…we don’t need to rehash that. I’m here. I’m talking to you. Let’s get on with it…

    But the DOJ report – that is pretty incredible stuff, and it seems to coincide exactly with what—-(interrupts) NO. Don’t go there with me. I told you, we are not talking about any of that right now. Let it happen on its own. You gotta-gotta… know how…or when to step away and let things happen… and this is a time for that. You need to- you need to understand that. We agreed on what would be talked about here, right? We agreed to it. Don’t try and go off the reservation here kid. Stick to what I said I would talk to you about. Understand? This is no joke. Do you understand me here?

    Yeah. Got it. Good – and thank you. There’s a reason for this, but for now you just gotta trust me. We won’t be talking about the DOJ, or… none of that –expletive- today. Maybe later. Maybe…maybe not.

    Ok, that’s fine – for now. Back to 2008…the campaign. You want to talk about the campaign. Why? Not so much the campaign, but the media’s role. The media – what I saw happen around me with the media. Never seen anything like it before. It was great…at the time it was great. Made all our jobs a helluva lot easier, right? We would literally give the media a script and they would follow it. It would come from on high down to me and all the others who were doing the same thing I was, and then I just passed it along to this reporter or this news producer or whatever and watch them repeat it. They just took it and ran with it over and over again – no questions asked.

    You hinted at that in our very first interview. Something along the lines of showing favoritism to certain media – allowing them access to Obama for supportive reporting. Yeah – yeah that was part of it. But there was more of that at the beginning, the very beginning, and then we didn’t even have to do that anymore. There came a time, I don’t know exactly when, it just kind of evolved I guess, when basically, the media was coming to us saying how can we help? What can we do for you? Not literally saying it, but…you know, the meaning was easy enough to pick up on. I would come into a city – they know I’m with the campaign, and they would literally kiss my ass. I mean kiss my –expletive- ass. It was all very much “what can we do for Obama?” That was all they seemed to care about – helping Barack Obama. I was there 24 or 48 hours ahead of the Senator, or the First Lady, or somebody else high up in the campaign, and literally able to tell these people what to say, how to report on the arrival – I mean create the image from the ground up before any of them had arrived. I have never seen anything like it. Never – no candidate has ever been given such favoritism by the media. Like I said, at the time it was fantastic. I was in the entourage of a –expletive- political god. Looking back now…it was, it was…not right. It wasn’t right. A campaign should not have that kind of…it shouldn’t be that easy. There’s a danger to that. I didn’t want to admit it then, but I sure as hell realize it now.

    How do you mean “danger”? What’s the danger? The danger is that there was almost no media to put this candidate through the lens. No media to ask questions that normally would be asked of anybody running for office. So now we got more and more of us looking back at the last two years asking ourselves, “Who the hell is this guy? What the –expletive- did we do putting him in the White House?”

    And that of course gave Obama a big advantage over McCain. McCain? The real campaign was never against McCain…

    What? Who – what do you mean? I told you before – getting by McCain…that was never really an issue. It was getting the nomination, it was the fight against Hillary. That was the real battle – that was the real campaign. Once we had the nomination locked in, Obama was going to be the next president. That was what we all felt. The real battle was for the party nomination. And that is where the media was jumping in all the time helping us out…helping us against the Clintons. They worked overtime for us elevating Obama, and pushing down Hillary. The Clintons didn’t deserve that, and it makes me -expletive- sick I was part of it.

    Was it really that overt? The media was really working that hard for Obama against Hillary Clinton? (nods head) Oh yeah – hell yes they were. I’ll give you a perfect example – one of the first things that was done on a national scale to set the tone. Do you remember the story – it was very early on in the campaign…back in 2007. Early summer I believe. Late spring? Anyways, do you remember being told that Barack Obama was being given Secret Service protection? This was far earlier than any candidate before – it was at the very beginning of the primary campaign. Remember those stories?

    Somewhat. You sure it was 2007? I thought it was later than that. Or toward the end of 2007. Either way, what is the importance of that? The fact you go and ask that question says a lot about how people just don’t see what is right in front of their face when it comes to politics – how politics really work. There’s the story, and there’s the story behind the story. Just ask yourself why the Obama campaign would want Secret Service protection so early – or more importantly, why would they want to make it so public that he was getting Secret Service protection so early? Why have that information plastered all over the media? Why do that?

    (Pause) …I don’t know. Why? Yes you do know – just think about it! Why have a bunch of news stories crank up the fact that this candidate is getting Secret Service protection earlier than any other candidate before them? What is the motivation behind that?

    To protect the candidate…(interrupts) – No, that is not, or that wasn’t the primary motivation. Do you know where the request for that originated? Do you know how Obama got that protection so early? And do you recall what the reason being reported in the media was for that protection? If you don’t know I bet you sure as hell can guess.

    Threats were made against him? Against Obama? (shakes head) Yes – that is what was reported. There were very general claims of threats from “possible” white supremacist groups or something like that. These claims came from Democrat Senators – a handful of them anyway, but they were originally given the story by us – the Obama campaign. That’s what wasn’t reported of course… And all of a sudden, we have story after story saying how this little known candidate from Chicago needs Secret Service protection far earlier than any candidate has been given such protection before. Now what do those stories do for that candidate? Why would a campaign blare it to the entire –expletive- world they are getting Secret Service protection? What is the real motivation? I mean, if you are getting enhanced protection, why be so public about it?

    I told you – I don’t know. Why? Because that story alone set the tone for the rest of the campaign. It really did. It was an absolute genius move, as well as being disgustingly dishonest – came right from Plouffe I believe. The threats to Obama were a creation by Plouffe, and the campaign was very proud of itself over that one. It put all the other candidates into a corner. It guilted the voters – or a lot of them anyways. Enough of them to make a big difference. It made Barack Obama the legacy candidate – the guy who could be the first Black president – if some crazy racists didn’t go and try and harm him first. From that time on, Obama was elevated as something more unique and special vs all of the other candidates. Send out a story about Obama needing Secret Service protection, and America feels terrible over that. We gotta do something about this, right? Why that’s just a terrible thing, right? So what can we do about it? Well, I’m gonna elect that man president, that’s what. I’m not a racist. Not me. I’m gonna help elect the first Black president because I’m a good person. Who doesn’t want to be a good person? All you gotta do is elect Barack Obama president.

    That seems an awfully simplistic description of the American voter. The best campaigns often are the most simple. Americans get simple. We –expletive- thrive on simple, right? And I’m here to tell you, as a candidate, I don’t know many more who have been more simple than Barack Obama. Hope – Change – and don’t forget I’m the nice Black guy. That was about it – and it worked. Man did it work. Think about it – how does a candidate sit in a racist church for 20 years, he’s got a pastor screaming about the evils of America, and this candidate walks away from it almost unscathed and marches right on in to the White House? That –expletive- does not happen without a media willing to pound everyone over the head with the race card. How dare anyone challenge Obama on the Reverend Wright thing. Why would you want to bring that up – why you must be racist. Oh, how terrible for you! (laughs) And the campaign didn’t even need to work for that one I’m told. That story was happily given to them. The media was already scrambling to make Obama THE candidate.

    You were told? I wasn’t involved in the campaign just yet. Didn’t get on board for a bit longer – when we were working the McCain angle – when we had to “McCain the campaign.”

    McCain? McCain the Campaign? (smiles) Oh yeah – very early on when I arrived there was already an established “McCain the campaign” operation underway inside the Obama team. And our number one tool for that was the media. We quietly let the media know we favored having to run against Senator McCain if we won the nomination. And you gotta remember that at this time, McCain was barely hanging on as a candidate for the Republican nomination. If he was to win that nomination, he was going to need a lot of help, namely from the media.

    Hold on – you’re telling me that the Obama campaign worked to help John McCain win the Republican nomination? Am I understanding you correctly here? Because that is astounding – and I’ve never been told that by anyone before. (Nods head) That is EXACTLY what I am telling you. The Obama campaign wanted to run against John McCain. If we managed to get past Hillary, he was the candidate we felt most confident running against. We figured we could beat anyone the Republicans sent against us, but McCain was certainly our first choice. Absolutely.

    And you – the Obama campaign, actually helped John McCain to get the Republican nomination? Yes. We were a bit nervous about Romney, then maybe Giuliani – his campaign team proved to be a complete joke…but McCain? We had no fear of John McCain. None. He was a guarantee candidate if we won the nomination. Hillary was our priority… so much money was spent defeating her – after that we knew we most likely were gonna win it all – but McCain was our just-in-case option. The sure thing scenario. And it was copied during the midterms. The Harry Reid campaign did the exact same thing we did. I watched it from a distance, but I knew exactly what they were up to. Lamb is a very quick study.

    How? How did the Obama camp help John McCain be the Republican nominee? Well let me refresh your memory here. Toward the end of…2008, no – 2007, McCain’s campaign was in the –expletive- toilet, right? And Romney was shaping up to be the frontrunner going into 2008. That had the higher ups in the Obama camp very concerned. If we got by Hillary, then the only guy who might challenge us money-wise would be Romney. He had some bucks, he had inroads with the large donor Republicans. The contradiction between him and Obama was not stark enough. Romney was by far the bigger threat – much more so than McCain…

    (Interrupts) –Stark? What do you mean by that? Stark – uh…Romney came off polished, confident. Even a little slick. That was too much like our candidate – Obama, right? There wouldn’t be enough of a visual contradiction. Besides Obama being Black of course, but if you stood McCain next to Obama, well…now you got a real visual contradiction, right? The mannerisms, the kinda odd way he speaks – he’s horrible in debates… all of that made for a much stronger visual advantage for Obama. We didn’t want Romney up there by Obama – we really-really wanted it to be McCain.

    So did this plan to help McCain come from you? Oh hell no! I wasn’t high enough yet in the machine to be making those kinds of decisions – it was told to me by someone who was around those decisions as they were hatched. He was on board with it, thought it was brilliant. He shared it with me and I agreed, it was brilliant. And ultimately we pulled it off. We – the Obama campaign, got McCain the Republican nomination.

    You’re saying the Obama campaign was more responsible for McCain getting the Republican nomination than McCain himself was? Well…I wouldn’t go quite that far, but we certainly helped – we helped a lot. You could say we were as responsible and I would have no problem agreeing with that. Yeah, that sounds ‘bout right.

    Ok – but getting back to the how. How did you help McCain? Right, right – well like I was saying, go back to the last months of 2007. McCain is barely hanging on. He’s got no money, staff are leaving him. The guy is in big trouble. Normally the media would be writing the guy off, right? They would be piling on him left and right – or simply ignoring him altogether. But they didn’t do that, did they? Romney is winning the straw polls, racking up party endorsements, normally that kind of momentum cannot be overcome. In this case, it was.

    Yeah, I’ve wondered about that – but HOW? I’m getting there kid. I was told that very specific pro-McCain stories were being given to various media figures, emphasizing McCain as this guy who wasn’t giving up – the underdog candidate going against the big money machine of Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani. Do you remember any of those stories?

    Vaguely. Well they were all over the media for about a month or two heading into New Hampshire. Right? Look at how tough John McCain is; he never gives up, etc. Those stories, at least the idea of them, originated from the Barack Obama campaign. We were the ones who pushed the media to report them. It was done very under the radar of course, but it was absolutely done by us – saw it going on first hand. Right before I was sent out to go do the preliminary work on another campaign stop in…Florida I believe, maybe it was Tennessee -tough to keep track… I was given an outline of approved questions or focus points to be given to the media for the Senator’s arrival. These outlines were given to all of us who were doing what I was doing, everything was covered to the letter – several of us racing all over the country by this time. Anyways, I get there and have a quick sit down with one of the local network affiliates – news producer, or assistant producer. I start going over the information on the list, and she interrupts me and says, “Oh, we got those already. Don’t worry, we are ready to go, and we got the McCain information too. We’ll do what we can.” Now let that sink in kid. Roll that around for a bit. Here I am, supposed to be part of the advance team for the Obama campaign doing what all campaigns do in trying to get the media on their side, and somebody has already gotten to them? Somebody has already given them the list as well as the “McCain information”? And this local news producer is all in – ready to go for the Obama people without any hesitation. She was thrilled to be helping us out. Now multiply that example by a thousand and you got what was going on during the presidential campaign that year. I have never seen anything like it. I hope to not see anything like that again. It’s no exaggeration when I say the media elected Barack Obama – not the American people.

    I can agree with part of that – the media certainly was pushing for Obama. They still are. Pushing? No, they were pushing for John McCain to be the nominee because that’s what the Obama people were asking for. As for Obama, by the time 2008 rolls around, most in the media considered themselves a critical part of the Obama campaign. That is not a joke or an exaggeration – that is a fact. There was only one moment in that entire campaign that we thought we might actually lose. One time that we thought the media might turn on us – might break away with their own story against Obama. They didn’t though. They stuck by us – they stamped that story down for us almost as quickly as it came out.

    What was that – what was the story? I mentioned it already…Wright – the Reverend Wright story. That whole cluster-expletive- church that Obama went to for what…30 years? No – 20 years? What other candidate gets away with a story like that in a primary race? There was no “ he said she said” crap with that story – everyone could hear and see what that guy was saying! Here is this pastor of this church who is screaming down America, a guy who Obama calls his spiritual guide or mentor or whatever, who rips on America after 9-11…I mean how in hell does a candidate survive that? It just doesn’t happen. No way. Impossible, right? Obama was done. It was over. He finally got burned on something. You just don’t recover from something like that. That’s what we all thought. Oh –expletive- it’s –expletive- over. A distant second on the concern scale for the campaign was Palin. That one spooked us a bit – but not like the Wright fiasco. We really thought it was over right there – but Obama survived it. Not because of him, or the campaign, but because the media provided cover through the whole thing. In the end, the media said it was not a story, and pushed Obama to the finish line. No way a candidate should have survived that. No -expletive- way.

    The Reverend Wright thing was a big story though – the media did report on it. It was all over the news. Did they? I’d be happy to tell you how some of that went down. And another thing – the “McCain the campaign” tactic that worked so well in 2008 – don’t think the Obama people aren’t gonna try the same damn thing in 2012. They are already working it up right now – you can count on that. They will try again to pick who Obama runs against in 2012, and the Republicans are just stupid enough to let them get away with it again

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-the-media-elected-obama-not-the-american-people/#ixzz16hE693Iu

  291. What has White House Insider revealed none of us knew? We probably know more about it than “he” does.

    Regardless, it’s still a good read.

    Hillary’s on…denouncing illegal wikeleaks activity. We got your back, Hillary.

  292. what a freaking cowardly “man” we have “in charge”…. hides behind Hillary, what a disgusting spectacle.

    I heard on Fox the military said they have the means to shut down that website, we, the US, have that technology, and the military is pissed that Obama will not use it.

  293. Darn you, Tim, for making me defend Obama. But…shutting down a website would be, perhaps, the first form of internet censorship and we do all believe in free speech. There is something illegal that happened, those cables were stolen and we can hope they will be prosecuted.

  294. She is so much better than the fraud in chief. That’s how a President looks…not the bumbling idiot we have in office.

    Great job…Hillary!

  295. shenanigans
    November 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    I like your second post more and 100% agree with it.

    However, this is not about freedom of speech, this is stolen material, this is no different if Assange had gone into the State dept or some US military base and stolen military equipment and given it away on the open market.

    This is not a free speech issue, this is stealing. And this pervert Assange along with that treasonous man Manning needs to be tried for treason against the US govt.

  296. a few highlights from Hillary’s statement:

    yes, wbb-

    I too believe this is much bigger than we originally thought. This is a concerted effort on the part of Soros to destroy America… That man needs to be imprisoned. grrrh!
    __________________________

    Hillary said she believes the State Dept will withstand the release of the wikileaks. She said they are taking specific steps to ensure the classification of documents are more secure from here on in.

    Whatever are the motives… she specifically used the word “motives” for the release of these documents, sabotaging the partnerships between nations will eventually be known.

    Endangering individuals people working for the state dept at risk. People rely on the Confidentiality between countries and individuals.

    Questions from reporters:

    Q: Madam Sect.. are you embarrassed by the release of these documents?

    A: I am confident we will withstand this breach of security. We need candid reporting in the diplomatic community from people in the field as part of the business of working together for common goals.

    Iran: We must do whatever it takes to prevent Iran from becoming nuclear armed.

  297. We would literally give the media a script and they would follow it. It would come from on high down to me and all the others who were doing the same thing I was, and then I just passed it along to this reporter or this news producer or whatever and watch them repeat it. They just took it and ran with it over and over again – no questions asked.

    You hinted at that in our very first interview. Something along the lines of showing favoritism to certain media – allowing them access to Obama for supportive reporting. Yeah – yeah that was part of it. But there was more of that at the beginning, the very beginning, and then we didn’t even have to do that anymore. There came a time, I don’t know exactly when, it just kind of evolved I guess, when basically, the media was coming to us saying how can we help? What can we do for you? Not literally saying it, but…you know, the meaning was easy enough to pick up on. I would come into a city – they know I’m with the campaign, and they would literally kiss my ass. I mean kiss my –expletive- ass. It was all very much “what can we do for Obama?” That was all they seemed to care about – helping Barack Obama. I was there 24 or 48 hours ahead of the Senator, or the First Lady, or somebody else high up in the campaign, and literally able to tell these people what to say, how to report on the arrival – I mean create the image from the ground up before any of them had arrived. I have never seen anything like it. Never – no candidate has ever been given such favoritism by the media. Like I said, at the time it was fantastic. I was in the entourage of a –expletive- political god. Looking back now…it was, it was…not right. It wasn’t right. A campaign should not have that kind of…it shouldn’t be that easy. There’s a danger to that. I didn’t want to admit it then, but I sure as hell realize it now.
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    Big media does not deserve the protection of the first amendment. As a matter of fact it is dangerous to give them that protection when all they really are now is a mouthpiece for the Administration. Why? Because it preempts robust discussion, or any discussion. And because they use it to BLUDGEON to death any opponent of the Administration, to promote racism, and to undermine the electoral process. If you want to put a name to it let me give you two names: CNN and NBC. CNN you may recall hired marketing specialists to undermine Hillarys campaign, to come up with words like polarizing and repeat them with the same consistency as weapons of mass destruction. And they acted to pre empt any due diligence on Obama. These people are traitors.

  298. Once we had the nomination locked in, Obama was going to be the next president. That was what we all felt. The real battle was for the party nomination. And that is where the media was jumping in all the time helping us out…helping us against the Clintons. They worked overtime for us elevating Obama, and pushing down Hillary. The Clintons didn’t deserve that, and it makes me -expletive- sick I was part of it.
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    What does that make you?

  299. The Reverend Wright thing was a big story though – the media did report on it. It was all over the news. Did they? I’d be happy to tell you how some of that went down. And another thing – the “McCain the campaign” tactic that worked so well in 2008 – don’t think the Obama people aren’t gonna try the same damn thing in 2012. They are already working it up right now – you can count on that. They will try again to pick who Obama runs against in 2012, and the Republicans are just stupid enough to let them get away with it again
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    Do I believe the republicans are stupid? Yes. Do I believe the Obama people can control who they nominate? No fucking way. 2008 was a fluke, and the same strategy in 2012 will be an example of re-fighting the last war rather than the next one. Nobody trusts the media any more. The republicans should refuse to debate on NBC or CNN.

  300. I always said, McCain was a token candidate for the Republican nomination… I have to ask, then why did the Republicans support his nomination? Theres collusion there between the Rs and the Ds moreso than just the media running cover for Obama.

  301. Confloyd,

    Ulsterman is useless. Insider sounds legit(ish), but reading this last installment made me want to cut my own wrists. Ulsterman may be the dumbest, laziest and possibly luckiest asshole blogging right now.

    I mean how fucking dumb is this guy? He can’t figure out the reason the SS story was really important? Fuck, my 17 month old 2nd cousin can figure that shit out.

  302. Just to show you why it will not work, the Obama people are pushing Sarah Palin to be the candidate he runs against, and Matthews, loyal shill that he is, is promoting that meme. The Republican establishment does not want her and it is not clear whom they will support, inasmuch as a number of alternative candidates are all bunched together. Big media cannot pull it off this time around because they have a terrible Obama record to defend. If the Republicans have half a brain they will play their cards close to the chest, and rope a dope big media. Also, they do need to avoid CNN and NBC for interviews or debates. Those two news networks are leper colonies to be avoided for debates and interviews.

  303. Mrs. Smith,

    Depends on the date and where. I am in court everyday this coming month but four and even those are filling up. There’s also the family Xmas party I have to organize and cook for (almost 30 people this year) and my dad is visiting from Texas in the midst of it. You have my e-mail still…

    Wbboei,

    If Soros is behind this crazy asshole, Assange, I think he needs his own cell in Gitmo. Why don’t we put him and Murdoch in a no-holds barred cage match and see which of them comes out alive. The only downside is that two evil bastards may fuse into one super evil villain and then we really are FUBAR.

    Is there anything in particular besides the Open Society lawyer and the award that drives this opinion?

    PS- to the rest of you, hope you know BoA is giving up FDIC protection come the first of the year….

  304. We would literally give the media a script and they would follow it. It would come from on high down to me and all the others who were doing the same thing I was, and then I just passed it along to this reporter or this news producer or whatever and watch them repeat it. They just took it and ran with it over and over again – no questions asked.

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    That’s what the GOP did to Gore in 2000. Except they used faxes to all media at once. Anyway the media just ran them without questioning.

  305. I heard on Fox the military said they have the means to shut down that website, we, the US, have that technology

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    Since Assange has already sent copies of much of the material to media around the world — and probably has complete copies stashed in various countries — shutting one website wouldn’t stop the bleeding.

    Trying to shut down all his outlets in all other countries would make them madder than the documents would.

  306. No wonder they get pissed with him…….

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/29/obama_surprised_european_governments_with_major_missile_defense_announcement

    Obama surprised European governments with major missile defense announcement

    European governments were told about the Barack Obama administration’s decision to drastically alter U.S. plans for ballistic missile defense in Europe only 25 minutes before the official announcement, according to a tranche of leaked diplomatic cables released on Sunday by the self-described whistleblower website WikiLeaks. This detail is the latest piece of evidence that the administration botched its September 2009 rollout of the policy change.

    “The White House is expected to announce a Presidential decision at approximately 9:55 a.m. (Washington, D.C.) on September 17 regarding a U.S. European-based BMD adaptive regional architecture, which is significantly different from the Bush Administration’s plan to deploy 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland and a BMD tracking radar in the Czech Republic,” read a diplomatic cable sent that day from Foggy Bottom to several dozen diplomatic posts in Europe.

  307. Sadly, when Bill Clinton was being impeached I remember I donated to moveon because I wanted to help any organizations that were helping BC, I shutter now at my donations to this radical far lefty America-hating organizations.

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    During the Impeachment, some supporters of Bill formed moveon to defend him. In 2000 they supported moderates in both parties.

    Moveon was not taken over by Bot types till later.

  308. OkieAtty: I had no idea after the first of the year there will be no FDIC protection….how is this escaping common knowledge….forget it I know…the fucking media! Obama is going to get a second term and it has already been decided.
    Soros saying he wants all donors to give money to someone else is a farce….I read somewhere Soros is funneling money to Sarah! Its just gossip though, I don’t know!

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