Veterans Day 2010

It finally ended a few weeks ago.

The misbegotten Treaty of Versailles stopped the fighting of “The Great War” on June 28, 1919. But that “war to end all wars” was merely act one in a world wide conflagration that is now numbered in two parts.

As wise statesmen have noted, the cessation of hostilities in World War I ended in an Allied victory but there was no peace. It required the second mass slaughter to give birth to not only a victory but to a peace as well – a peace that lasted for generations – interrupted repeatedly by a Cold War and lesser proxy wars.

Not much was resolved by the first bloody act of the carnage. Those of us who have visited the death fields of Verdun get but a glimpse of the horrors that occurred. The foolish Allies walked into a charnel house and declared “I won.” No peace could come from such as these – and they were supposed to be the “good guys”.

Finally, a few weeks ago, On October 2, 2010, the peace of Versailles finally came:

“The final payment of £59.5 million, writes off the crippling debt that was the price for one world war and laid the foundations for another.

Germany was forced to pay the reparations at the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 as compensation to the war-ravaged nations of Belgium and France and to pay the Allies some of the costs of waging what was then the bloodiest conflict in history, leaving nearly ten million soldiers dead.

The initial sum agreed upon for war damages in 1919 was 226 billion Reichsmarks, a sum later reduced to 132 billion, £22 billion at the time.

The bill would have been settled much earlier had Adolf Hitler not reneged on reparations during his reign.

Hatred of the settlement agreed at Versailles, which crippled Germany as it tried to shape itself into a democracy following armistice, was of significant importance in propelling the Nazis to power.

“On Sunday the last bill is due and the First World War finally, financially at least, terminates for Germany,” said Bild, the country’s biggest selling newspaper.

Most of the money goes to private individuals, pension funds and corporations holding debenture bonds as agreed under the Treaty of Versailles, where Germany was made to sign the ‘war guilt’ clause, accepting blame for the war.

France, which had been ravaged by the war, pushed hardest for the steepest possible fiscal punishment for Germany.

The principal representative of the British Treasury at the Paris Peace Conference, John Maynard Keynes, resigned in June 1919 in protest at the scale of the demands.

“Germany will not be able to formulate correct policy if it cannot finance itself,’ he warned.

When the Wall Street Crash came in 1929, the Weimar Republic spiralled into debt. Four years later, Hitler was elected Chancellor of Germany.”

Fools for leaders, endless debt, and we still have not learned.

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Today is Veterans Day 2010. Lucy Brewer is now but one of many names of women who have served on the battlefields.

Veterans Day. Today is a day the nation sets aside to honor all veterans – the quick and the dead.

To honor these men and women we turn to a day of great joy and great moment and great remembrance:

“65 Years Ago my Dad shot this film along Kalakaua Ave. in Waikiki capturing spontaneous celebrations that broke out upon first hearing news of the Japanese surrender. Kodachrome 16mm film: God Bless Kodachrome, right? I was able to find an outfit ( to do a much superior scan of this footage to what I had previously posted, so I re-did this film and replaced the older version There are more still images from this amazing day, in color, at”

Thank you Kodachrome. Thank you those who remember and chronicle our national and personal past:

“This is a spare and simple video consisting of WWII-era Kodachrome slides and film footage honoring the servicemen and servicewomen and the loved ones they left behind. The bare-bones recording was made by Vera Lynn as bombs fell upon Britain: the genuine sadness in her voice needs no violin accompaniment for effect. Enormous gratitude for all US and Allies who serve, yesterday and today.”

Thank you veterans.

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We’ll return to chronicle the foolishness of our current “leaders” tomorrow.


156 thoughts on “Veterans Day 2010

  1. A hearty thanks to ABM 92 and any others here who are veterans.

    Yes, so many lessons unlearned. Only by going over history again and again can we glean the underlying truths. Of course, there are those who see the truth staring them in the face as it happens, like Keynes at the Versailles feed fest, but they are so often overwhelmed by the common wisdom and groupthink.

    Historians have long debated the question of German guilt for starting WWI, but there is near unanimity among them that Germany should not have recognized responsibility for the whole war, with all the consequences thereof.

    But then, for the French, there was the question of righting the wrong of 1872, with the loss of Alsace-Lorraine and the staggering 50 billion francs in gold that Germany had demanded at that time. Many think the French should have let it go at that, just reversing 1872, but they went much much further with this “guilt” thing, wanting to “bleed them to death.”

    After this whole 1872-1945 war played out, the French and the Germans went back to being neighbors. They buried the hatchet and became the mainspring of a more and more unified Europe. The EU would never have existed without this symbolic but very real partnership between the French and Germans, played out for about 60 years now. Lesson learned? Many in Europe are saying that if ever the Jews and Arabs put down their arms and get their shit together, the whole Middle East could one day marvel the world.

  2. Dear veterans all: thank you for your incredible service and sacrifice. As a child during WWII and the Korean War, and with an uncle who served admirably as a Marine during each, I became aware of the extreme sacrifices made by him, my aunt and cousin during that time. That all should have the same awareness.
    NYC to Honor United States Veterans at Veteran’s Day Parade
    Watch it live on both NBC 4 New York and at

  3. Incredible videos! My 88 year old dad just participated a WWII Honor Flight to Washington DC a few weeks ago. He was nearly killed in that war, helped liberate the concentration camps in Germany, and fought throughout Europe. What a remarkable generation of people who had to go through so much for our country and for freedom…

  4. OThe State Dept. is closed for Veteran’s Day, but she’s still working:

    Note: The Department of State is closed in observance of Veterans Day.

    7:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton speaks with Japanese Foreign Minister Seiji Maehara.

    8:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton speaks with German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle.

    9:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, at the Regency Hotel in New York City.

    1:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton speaks with Spanish Foreign Minister Trinidad Jimenez.

    A meeting with Bibi at 9a.m. That will generate
    ur Girl has work ethics fae greater than any SoS or POTUS

  5. Thank You to all the vets, for it is their sacrifice that allows us to be talking on a blog like this today.

  6. The vids brought tears to my middle-aged eyes in memory of my WWII vet Dad. What a tremendous generation of Americans. Thanks Vets. Thanks Admin.

  7. I get a charge out of all the protests against retirement ages being that more people can enjoy more of the gravy train goodies provided to both foolish citizens and greedy political hacks that spend all their time in office re-campaigning..

    I was on the the initial start of SS,paid into it until I stopped working at age 85 minus 4 yrs of WWII serviceand I receive less than most because a strange and cruel rule about “NOTCH BABIES” birth date.So you poor abused people out there.Shut up,stay out of an easy chair.keep busy and you will be much happier,healthy and satisfied that your efforts on self-preservation are are acheived by hard work and not up-scale welfare.

    To all vets I say “this is my native land” Don,t let anyone ruin it. “DRAFT HILLARY”

  8. Buzz of speculation on both sides of the aisle that Sen Webb of Virginia will not seek re-election in 2012.

    Speculation is already ramping up “in Virginia about the 2012 Senate race and, from several phone calls, there appears to be growing buzz on both sides of the aisle that Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) will not seek re-election,” Hotline On Call reports.

    If Webb does step aside, the Democratic bench in Virginia is awfully thin. Democratic National Committee Chair and former Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine is virtually the only Democrat with a statewide profile, with ousted Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.) as a possible sleeper candidate to watch if Webb steps down.

    On the Republican side, there is near-unanimous assumption in Republican circles that Sen. George Allen (R) will run for his former seat and he will be the frontrunner for the nomination. Other potential challengers include Del. Bob Marshall, former Gov. Jim Gilmore and Prince William County Board of Supervisors Chair Corey Stewart.

    Now why would he step aside after 1 term? Primary challenge to Obama?

  9. ABM90
    November 11th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    OThe State Dept. is closed for Veteran’s Day, but she’s still working:

    Lots of staff and security working too. I don’t think they are doing that just for overtime pay. I’m wondering if there may be some commonality between the “tremendous generation of Americans” we are reminded of above and many of those working. There may be a few staffs in the Congress like that too?

  10. ABM90 – Amazing work ethic indeed. The staff take the day off and Hillary doesn’t skip a beat, hard on the job all the time. She even works on Saturdays and Sundays. What you don’t see on the schedules you publish here is what she does between the appointments… mostly reading reports, sending out instructions, making/receiving phone calls. Exhausting just thinking about it.

  11. I agree that she leads an exhausting schedule. But what is most impressive to me, is what she accomplishments. I see some people that are always busy, but accomplish little.

    Her respect around the globe tells you, people internationally really view her as an equal.

  12. So today Abbas is commemorating the anniversary of Arafat’s death by poisoning. He’s telling his people that they will continue to follow Arafat’s dreams.

    Given that Arafat was a slovenly mega-terrorist, isn’t this just wonderful.

  13. Netanyahu Meets Clinton Amid Pressure to Restart Middle East Peace Talks

    By Jonathan Ferziger and Peter S. Green – Nov 11, 2010

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to discuss stalled peace negotiations with the Palestinians after the U.S. criticized Israel’s plans for new housing in disputed territory.

    “We will be talking about how to resume and continue this process to get a historic agreement between us and the Palestinians,” Netanyahu told reporters before the start of the meeting in New York today. Clinton said that “we’re going to be talking about everything.”

    President Barack Obama said on Nov. 9 that Israeli plans to build hundreds of new homes in east Jerusalem were not “helpful when it come to peace negotiations.” Netanyahu said Israel has the right to build everywhere in the city.

    Israeli-Palestinian peace talks that started with a White House ceremony on Sept. 1 stalled less than a month later when a partial 10-month Israeli moratorium on West Bank building ended and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said he wouldn’t continue talks unless all construction stopped.

    Palestinians seek the eastern sector of the city, captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war, as the capital of their state. Israel annexed the area in a move never recognized internationally.

    Clinton said yesterday that the U.S. was “deeply disappointed” by the announcement of plans for new housing units in what she called “sensitive areas in east Jerusalem.” She called it “counterproductive to our efforts to resume negotiations between the parties.”

    ‘Miss the Chance’

    Abbas, speaking in Ramallah today, urged Israel “not to miss the chance to make peace,” while repeating his insistence that West Bank building stop before talks could resume.

    Palestinian leaders said they will seek recognition of an independent state from the United Nations Security Council if Israel doesn’t stop building in the West Bank and parts of Jerusalem captured in the 1967 war.

    In a Nov. 9 interview with Bloomberg Television, Netanyahu said Palestinian complaints about Israeli settlement construction were “a minor issue” that has become “way overblown.”

    Ahead of her meeting with Netanyahu, Clinton yesterday said the U.S. gave $150 million in direct aid to the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority, an advance on the $200 million requested in fiscal 2011.

    The grant “underscores the strong determination of the American people and of this administration to stand with our Palestinian friends even during difficult economic times as we have here at home,” Clinton said during a video conference with Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.

    Occupied Territory

    About 500,000 Jews have moved to the West Bank and Jerusalem since Israel captured the territories in the 1967 Middle East war. The UN says the settlements are illegal, and the International Committee of the Red Cross says they breach the Fourth Geneva Convention governing actions on occupied territory.

    Israel says the settlements don’t fall under the convention because the territory wasn’t recognized as belonging to any country before the 1967 war, in which Israel prevailed, and therefore isn’t occupied.

  14. As always a huge THANK YOU to admin for perspective.

    If you find yourself out and about shopping today look for charity cans to the left of the cashier. Many establishments utilize this week to collect funds for Christmas gifts for the children of those that are serving the country now. I knew nothing of it, but apparently it has been done for years. To be honest- I never pay any attention to the little jars. Sometimes I deposit the coins without even looking to see what it is for. Young people in the armed forces make dick.

  15. Henry,

    I also donate to “Operation Christmas Child.”
    You pack a shoebox or a few shoeboxes of gifts and necessities for a child or teenager and they are sent all over the world.

  16. Jan H
    Thanks for the info
    I decided a few years back that short of direct donations my only gift would be to St Judes.
    A CEO of a non profit earning multi-millions pisses me off(Highmark for example)

  17. A story which today I think bears repeating.
    And to MEchelle this is one of many things that makes me proud of my country.
    In 2002 I went into a bar/restaurant called Coogan’s on 168th and Broadway in NYC. A young man dressed in his armed forces uniform was sitting at the bar having a burger and a soda. After a few minutes I said to the bartender please put his bill on my tab. He told me I was to late as everyone in the place had already said the same thing and that the owner had said don’t give him a check.
    Someone said give him the cash and a basket made the rounds. As he went to leave the bartender offered him the cash and he declined but said in a tremulous voice to an entire room that he was honored to serve.
    I lack the gift to convey the beauty of that moment, but I will say thank you to that brave man today as he deserves that and much more.

  18. WASHINGTON — Today is Veterans Day. Do you know where your president is?

    With his feeble flame of “hope” thoroughly doused here in the United States by last week’s elections, President Obama has set out around the globe in search of throngs still enthralled by his flowery rhetoric.

    He found them, of course, in Indonesia this week by telling them about how Americans must stop mistrusting Islam.

    So that is why your president is halfway around the world instead of being here in the United States to celebrate the sacrifices American soldiers, sailors and airmen have made around the world to keep the real, still-burning flame of freedom alive.
    KOREA MOVE: President Obama is greeted yesterday in Seoul, where he arrived for the G20 summit.

    Obama honored our veterans from afar by laying a wreath during a ceremony at an Army base in South Korea last night.

    That is a distance from here matched only by the chasm that has opened up between him and the voters who elected him two years ago.

    This aloofness of his really is becoming a problem.

    Not that Obama doesn’t appreciate the sacrifices of veterans. He absolutely does. Just ask the Indonesians.

    He was in Jakarta for their Heroes Day this week to honor their veterans “who have sacrificed on behalf of this great country.”

    “This great country,” of course, being Indonesia.

  19. Since Barry seems to have taken all the MSM with him on his 2.4 billion dollar escape from the US vacation somewhere else, the kooks over in orange Cheeto land are going nuts…again. They still talk about PUMAs and how we should just go ahead and become Republicans… 😉

    Here are a few choice comments about voting for future Democrats:


    When will we stop giving to Republican lites?

    And how will we ensure more and better progressives in the Democratic Party?

    Those are the seminal questions for Kossacks now.

    It seems to me we need to get really smart about who we support and where we put our money.

    And that starts with asking a lot of questions, and then having a strategy to begin to exercise our power. Because we are powerful when we work together.

    by maxschell

    [ Parent ]

    Never. Kossacks will continually be fooled into

    wasting their time & money on Democrats who have no intention of living up to their campaign promises —

    after all, if they do that, they’ll have to think up some news ones,

    & we can see from the Republicans how hard that is to do, even when they’ve been completely disgraced.

    Every dollar you give a worthless Democrat could have gone to feed or clothe a homeless person in your community — instead, you gave it to the Gucci Democrats

    by chicago expat


    and on financial regulation, loopholes big enough to drive a too-big-to-fail bank through (if banks had wheels).

    let’s not forget camapigning on a public option, and then caving there.

    captain caveman.

    How many times in the past two years have we…

    heard this? “Oh, if Obama only knew.”


    “He won’t be fooled again.”

    Listen up: he, Barack Obama, actually wants it this way. Just he, Barack Obama, actually didn’t want singer payer the whole time HCR was going through in Congress.

    He’s not stupid. He knows what he is doing.

    Unfortunately, it’s not what we want or need.

  20. Shadowfax, more along the line you commented on:

    I think the thing that strikes me the most about these speeches of his on foreign soil is that he seems far more comfortable extolling the virtues of a place like Indonesia than he does the United States. When he does talk about the US, it’s mostly in a way that lowers it or at the least fails to praise it.

    Yesterday, President Yudhoyono and I announced a new Comprehensive Partnership between the United States and Indonesia. We are increasing ties between our governments in many different areas, and — just as importantly — we are increasing ties among our people. This is a partnership of equals, grounded in mutual interests and mutual respect.

    Look, I get you have to do the diplomacy thing and make nice but it’s simply false to say that the US and Indonesia are equals. Aside from the massive disparity of the importance of the two countries to the world, do you know how we’re not equals? We’ve been a foreign aid donor to them for over 50 years. When you take charity from someone, you aren’t equals.

    Again, I understand the need for diplomacy but lying and passing on an opportunity to point out the tangible role the US plays in keeping the place afloat is not advancing US interests.

    Like any democracy, you have known setbacks along the way. America is no different. Our own Constitution spoke of the effort to forge a “more perfect union,” and that is a journey that we’ve traveled ever since. We’ve endured civil war and we struggled to extend equal rights to all of our citizens. But it is precisely this effort that has allowed us to become stronger and more prosperous, while also becoming a more just and a more free society.

    America endured a civil war and fulfilled its promise that “all men are created equal”. Indonesia endured a three decades long brutal military dictatorship. Unless I’ve really missed something big in American history, there’s no way you can say America’s “setbacks” (whatever Obama imagines them to be) are “no different” than Indonesia’s. It is simply a lie to say they are in anyway similar. This goes beyond making Indonesians feel better about themselves and is simply attacking America by false comparison.

    Obama then moved onto one of his favorite topics, Islam and the United States. Again, he seems far more comfortable talking up Islam than he ever does Christianity. As always, he is on the defensive when it comes to the conflict between American and Islam.

    Just as individuals are not defined solely by their faith, Indonesia is defined by more than its Muslim population. But we also know that relations between the United States and Muslim communities have frayed over many years. As President, I have made it a priority to begin to repair these relations. (Applause.) As part of that effort, I went to Cairo last June, and I called for a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world — one that creates a path for us to move beyond our differences.

    I said then, and I will repeat now, that no single speech can eradicate years of mistrust. But I believed then, and I believe today, that we do have a choice. We can choose to be defined by our differences, and give in to a future of suspicion and mistrust. Or we can choose to do the hard work of forging common ground, and commit ourselves to the steady pursuit of progress. And I can promise you — no matter what setbacks may come, the United States is committed to human progress. That is who we are. That is what we’ve done. And that is what we will do. (Applause.)

    Yes, he gets applauded because when he says he has made it “a priority to begin to repair” the relations between the US and Muslims, he’s really implying that we broke them so it’s up to us to fix them. This is simply not a line the President of the United States should be taking. If Obama is willing to listen to their apology or to their outreach efforts fine. It would even be appropriate to meet them halfway in some sort of gesture of good faith. But to imply we are responsible and must repair the relations? Insanity.

    The problem is Obama only gives, he never asks anything in return. He says no one single speech can eradicate years of mistrust but where is that single speech from anyone in the Islamic world giving it a shot? When is the leader of Indonesia or Saudi Arabia or even Iraq going to come to the House of Representatives and say, “Islam is sick and we must heal it. We must move beyond stoning women to death. We must allow freedom of all religions in our countries. We must not foment hatred of non-Muslims in our schools. We need to get over the Jew hating”? Never, that’s when. Notice I didn’t even suggest terrorism be something they take responsibility for. That will forever be waved away as simply a problem caused by a “tiny minority who don’t represent any religion”. Let’s start with the things that are undeniably part of Islamic culture and governance and work our way up from there. Not that it will ever happen and it would never occur to Obama that it should.

    Yet Obama, and to a degree Bush before him, will go around the world proclaiming that Islam is awesome and it’s all our fault. He will never demand outreach from those whose practices are so different and repellent to our own.

    Meanwhile, we’ve made progress on one of our core commitments — our effort to end the war in Iraq. Nearly 100,000 American troops have now left Iraq under my presidency. (Applause.) Iraqis have taken full responsibility for their security. And we will continue to support Iraq as it forms an inclusive government, and we will bring all of our troops home.

    American on the walk back is always a sure applause line in another country. How about pointing out that the fact that we are leaving, as we said we would, shows that we are not crusading conquers and that those who said otherwise were liars? How about pointing out that our troops are leaving behind a fragile democracy which, for all its faults, is far superior to the brutal Hussein dictatorship? Seems the Indonesians would appreciate that given their own history. Not a word from the President on those subjects.

    In the Middle East, we have faced false starts and setbacks, but we’ve been persistent in our pursuit of peace. Israelis and Palestinians restarted direct talks, but enormous obstacles remain. There should be no illusion that peace and security will come easy. But let there be no doubt: America will spare no effort in working for the outcome that is just, and that is in the interests of all the parties involved — two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security. That is our goal. (Applause.)

    What? Why bring up Israel in the Indonesia? Oh right, because Obama buys into the notion that all Muslims really, really care about the Palestinians. It also plays into the Islmaists notion that if we just meet their very reasonable demands (we have nothing to do with the Mideast and throw Israel overboard) everything will be fine. Well, they want Spain too. But seriously, just give them a few tokens and it will be all alright!

    Almost two years on and it is still amazing we have a President who will talk America down in a foreign country. He will never say a harsh word about people whose practices and actions are anathema to our own, quite the opposite in fact, but he will call fellow Americans “enemies”.

    Obama is right, America has had setbacks to our democracy…his election was one of the biggest.

  21. Glenn Beck is taking down Hillary with his expose on Soros…the first segment has Hillary praising Soros….of coarse there’s no telling how old that film was. That is what he is doing though.


    Of course he would. The GOP talked up Hillary before the election for their own purposes. Now the election is over they’re attacking her again. She’s the one they REALLY fear.

  22. turndownobama

    Glenn Beck is taking down Hillary with his expose on Soros…


    Of course he would. The GOP talked up Hillary before the election for their own purposes. Now the election is over they’re attacking her again. She’s the one they REALLY fear.

    Big yup to that.

    I was thinking of when watching Fox news would be over for me, (although I would still watch Greta and moderates over there)…

    The day Hillary tosses her hat in the ring again, or maybe before that, just like the day I turned away from CNN and MSNBC when they attacked Hillary to push Barry into the Oval office.

  23. Yipes, I am still reading the kooks comments on the thread I posted above…some of them are waking up to the ineptness and fraud of their Dear Leader, and fighting with the still addicted.

    It took them a long time to realize they can’t keep making excuses for Barry, and maybe they were bamboozled…

  24. Did you notice that strange statement when he was at a mosque near his childhood home. The little group I played with never imagined that one of us would be President one day. (I am paraphrasing his words). I just could not figure out why he stuck those words in? They did not seem to be a part of any them. I guess he could not say in that environment, I am the President, like he normally does. He really thinks too much of himself, and those people always self distruct.

  25. admin
    November 11th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Excellent analysis of Obama’s speech in Indonesia. Thanks for posting it, admin- If Obama IS an American,
    when does he start behaving like one?

  26. Admin: Thankyou for sharing your beautiful films with us. I was a pleasure to see all those young people celebrating in the streets of Honolulu.
    I still have my father who was a WWII sailor and I am grateful for that.

  27. He has given that speech before, hasn’t he? — bad, bad Americans and I will save them..

    Create a problem he thinks he can solve just by being him. Easy, he does not have to work at all. Just his existence and his speeches to say he exist will take care of the problem.

  28. I also don’t believe the story about fat duck boy talking to other boys when in Indonesia about becoming president. Another fairytale concocted by the MSM.

  29. NMF,
    I think he keeps saying he’s Potus because he has to convince himself that he really is because all he really does answer his blackberry from the puppetmaster. LOL!

  30. Fat Duck Boy just wanted to make a point, that he is no longer fat, and HE, yes HE, is the President of the United States. He is the winner of the game of all little Fat Ducks.

    He didn’t earn it, nor was he qualified for the job, but HE WON!!!!

    It is like his class reunion, where years later the cohort struts around inflating their accomplishments from the days on the play ground when they all played in the dirt with their marbles.

    He is now the Lame Fat Duck Boy pResident of the US!!!!

    All praise the Duck!!

  31. I also don’t believe the story about fat duck boy talking to other boys when in Indonesia about becoming president. Another fairytale concocted by the MSM.


    Iirc that story was attributed to some school teacher in Indonesia who said he often talked about ‘becomoing President’ but didn’t say what country.

    Iirc this was in some profile early, maybe 2007, Chicago Tribune maybe. Anyway before the koolaid took over.

  32. I agree, Google’s page image for Veteran’s is very unusual. Google is being investigated because of its access to Potus. I read that somewhere!

  33. turndown, That was a big controversary because at the time MSM was discussing Hillary’s desire to be President and she came back with his wanting to be Potus since first grade. MSM turned it into kindergardengate. Of coarse Hillary came out on the short end of the stick…as usual!
    I hope he give those republicans and big business every possible break and lets them cut the social programs. I have no reason to believe he will be on the side of the working class voters. I’d bet money on it!

  34. That was a big controversary because at the time MSM was discussing Hillary’s desire to be President and she came back with his wanting to be Potus since first grade. MSM turned it into kindergardengate.


    WEll, HIllary wouldn’t have used it unless she got it from a good source. I saw it in one of those good profiles, I’m almost sure.

    Of course the teacher may have made it up when interviewed for the profile.

  35. I postred the other day that beck was a jackass…The only one on Fox who truly admires Hillary and Bill is Greta.

  36. [ This quote was attributed to a post on The Oil Drum by Dr. Charles Hall. The gist of Hall’s post was that in the USA in the 1930s, if someone put the energy equivalent of one barrel of oil into the task of oil exploration and extraction, they got about 100 barrels of oil returned on their 1 barrel’s worth of invested energy. ]

    EROI = 100:1

    “Now that number is significantly lower. It varies from region to region, but 15:1 would probably be a very optimistic (possibly Panglossian) estimate. What’s more, in spite of rapidly advancing technology in the oil industry, that ratio has been dropping increasingly rapidly in recent years.

    …the cost of getting energy has been increasing greatly of late which implies that the world is approaching a point at which the energy required to get new oil will be a substantial part of, and eventually all of, the energy found within the barrel. At this point the oil age will be over, regardless of the amount of oil left in the ground or the price that the oil commands. (…)

    Many economists will say that EROI undervalues the role that technology will play in accessing deeper and poorer quality reserves. But as we have stated, EROI in the US obtained at least 100 barrels of oil from each barrel invested in going after it in the 1930’s but only about 10 for one in about 2000, despite the tremendous increases in technology. Therefore, in the US, and subsequently the world, geologic limits have trumped technological advances, and so we reiterate: the argument about how much oil is left in the ground misses the point – what is important is not the total oil remaining but how much we can get out at a significant energy profit.”

  37. confloyd
    November 11th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    I agree, Google’s page image for Veteran’s is very unusual. Google is being investigated because of its access to Potus. I read that somewhere!

    Noticed that as well. A little late to stealth their anti-American, liberal secularist bent.

  38. turndown, Its always been about profit. I can remember my parents buy gas for 19 cents a gal. They built all these highways for Americans to travel and never built a car in those days that lasted anymore than 100,000 miles if you were lucky.
    Those folks never thought the oil would run out and if they did they did not care.

  39. you know we can stay on the oil standard if we have to.
    there are technologies that turn waste into oil available.

    sure wish it would have been obamas green jobs focus…


    The company works such miracles through thermo-depolymerization (TDP), a process by which waste materials are broken down by intensive heat and pressure to produce natural gas, fuel oil, and minerals. The company’s CEO, Brian Appel, says he can turn any type of carbon-based waste—be it computers or offal—into combustible fuel.
    Thermo-depolymerization mimics the Earth’s own recipe for fossil fuels, but shaves millions of years off the production time. Waste—turkey guts, for instance—is mixed with water and ground into a thick slurry, which is then heated to 500 degrees Fahrenheit (260 degrees Celsius), pressurized at roughly 600 pounds per square inch (42 kilograms per square centimeter), and cooked for about 15 to 60 minutes until the organic material’s molecular structure—its polymers—begin to break apart.

    Pressure on the mixture is then dropped, releasing steam that is recaptured to power the remaining process. More heat, then distillation, creates the byproducts—natural gas, which is diverted back to fuel the bio-reformer; crude oil, which can be sold to refineries; minerals, to be used in materials like fertilizers; and water.

    Barring nuclear waste, anything can yield these goods, according to proponents of the process: 100 pounds (45 kilograms) of tires, for instance, yields 44 pounds (20 kilograms) of oil (along with the other byproducts); a similar quantity of medical waste would result in 65 pounds (30 kilograms) of oil.

    Other versions of the process have existed since the 1970s, but only Appel’s addition of water and pressurization—instead of incineration, for example—has made the process environmentally friendly and, he claims, 85 percent energy efficient. “For every 100 Btus of energy in the waste that’s used, only 15 Btus are needed to power the process,” Appel said.

    just wanted to comment on the technology and say it is available. the rest of the article is critical. saw this in popular science magazine years ago and wonder why we as a country dont do more with it.

  40. jbstonesfan, I agree with you about Beck, but he has a huge audience and right now he is instilling so much fear in Americans it unbelieveable. He is currently outing Soros, which I haven’t found any new information that we did not know already. He has been telling people that a Hershey bar will cost $15. when the progressives finally achieve their “One World Government”. People are believing this crap because they just don’t do the homework involved with finding out the real story. I still haven’t figured out who exactly is paying Beck for what he is doing…I don’t think its the rethugs because he routinely gripes about them too. Its really weird! I wish we could uncover that little piece of information.


    Mandate Challenge Could Prevail

    Published: November 07, 2010

    Fairfax, Va. —
    When 21 states and several private groups initiated lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the Obama health care law earlier this year, critics denounced the suits as frivolous political grandstanding. But it is increasingly clear that the plaintiffs have a serious case with a real chance of victory.

    The suits focus primarily on challenges to the new law’s “individual mandate,” which requires most American citizens to purchase a government-approved health insurance plan by 2014 or pay a fine. One of the cases was filed by 20 state governments and the National Federation of Independent Business in a federal court in Florida. Another was initiated by the Commonwealth of Virginia in a federal court in this state, and a third by the Thomas More Law Center in Michigan.

    The judges considering the Florida and Virginia cases have both issued rulings rejecting the federal government’s motions to dismiss the suits and indicating that the mandate can’t be upheld based on current Supreme Court precedent. By contrast, Michigan district Judge George Caram Steeh wrote a decision concluding that the mandate is constitutional. But even he agreed that the case raises an “issue of first impression.”

    In the most recent of the three rulings, Florida federal District Court Judge Roger Vinson wrote that the government’s claim that the mandate is clearly authorized by existing Supreme Court precedent is “not even a close call.” He points out that “[t]he power that the individual mandate seeks to harness is simply without prior precedent,” because no previous Supreme Court decision ever authorized Congress to force ordinary citizens to buy products they did not want.

    An August ruling in the Virginia case by federal District Judge Henry Hudson reached the same conclusion. As Judge Hudson points out, “[n]o reported case from any federal appellate court” has ever ruled that Congress’ powers “include the regulation of a person’s decision not to purchase a product.”

    The federal government claims that Congress has the power to impose the mandate under the Commerce Clause, the Necessary and Proper Clause, and the Tax Clause of the Constitution. On the first two claims, Judge Vinson ruled that Supreme Court precedent doesn’t clearly support the government, thereby enabling the plaintiffs’ lawsuit to go forward. He outright rejected the government’s claim that the mandate is constitutional because it is a “tax.” It is instead a financial penalty for refusing to comply with a federal regulation. As Judge Vinson pointed out, congressional leaders consistently emphasized before the law’s enactment that it was not a tax.

    In September 2009, President Obama himself noted that “for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase.” He was right. If the mandate qualifies as a tax merely because it punishes violators with a fine, then Congress could require Americans to do almost anything on pain of having to pay a fine if they refuse. It could, for example, force citizens to buy virtually any product, such as purchasing General Motors cars for the purpose of helping the struggling auto industry.

    The government’s Commerce Clause argument is equally dubious. The Clause gives Congress authority to regulate “Commerce . . . among the several states.” But the individual mandate regulates that which is neither commercial nor interstate.

    Virtually all purchases of health insurance are intrastate because a combination of state and federal law makes it illegal to purchase health insurance across state lines. Moreover, the object of the mandate isn’t even commerce at all. Instead of regulating pre-existing commerce, the bill forces people to engage in commercial transactions they would have otherwise avoided.

    A series of flawed Supreme Court decisions have expanded Congress’ Commerce Clause authority well beyond what the text of the Constitution permits. These rulings allow the federal government to regulate almost any “economic activ ity.” But, as Judge Vinson emphasized, even they do not give Congress the power to regulate people “based solely on citizenship and on being alive.” Far from engaging in “economic activity,” people who decide not to purchase health insurance are actually refraining from doing so.

    In his decision in the Michigan case, Judge Steeh argued that the mandate is constitutional under the Commerce Clause because deciding not to purchase health insurance is an “economic decision.”

    “Economic decisions,” he reasoned, include decisions not to engage in economic activity. This approach would allow the Commerce Clause to cover virtually any choice of any kind. Any decision to do anything is necessarily a decision not to use the same time and effort to engage in “economic activity.”

    If I choose to spend an hour sleeping, I necessarily choose not to spend that time working or buying products. Under Judge Steeh’s logic, the Commerce Clause authorizes Congress to force workers to get up earlier in the morning so that they would spend more time on the job.

    Some defenders of the law claim that the individual mandate is similar to federal laws banning racial discrimination against customers by businesses such as motels and restaurants. But federal antidiscrimination laws apply only to existing businesses already engaged in commercial activity in the regulated industry. By contrast, uninsured individuals are not businesses and, by definition, are not participating in the insurance industry.

    The federal government also argues that the mandate is authorized by the Necessary and Proper Clause, which gives Congress the power to “make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution” other powers Congress is granted by the Constitution.

    Even if the mandate is “necessary,” it is not “proper” under our constitutional system of limited federal authority. If the Clause allows Congress to adopt the individual mandate, the same logic would justify almost any other requirement Congress might impose on individuals, thereby gutting the principle of limited federal power.

    The legal battle over the mandate is far from over. The Florida and Virginia rulings are not final decisions. Both cases, as well as the Michigan decision, are sure to be appealed to the federal courts of appeals and, ultimately, the Supreme Court.

    The anti-mandate plaintiffs still face an uphill struggle. Courts are rarely willing to strike down a law that is a centerpiece of the political agenda of the president and his party. Nonetheless, it is increasingly clear that lawsuits are far from “frivolous” and have a real chance to prevail.

  42. I’d hoped to avoid a distraction from Veterans’ Day comments here, but sin never sleeps. An email from the Tea Party Patriots organization as arrived, and here is an annotated version:

    A situation has arisen with the Freshmen Orientation being sponsored by Tea Party Patriots this weekend, and we need your help. DC insiders, the RNC, and lobbyists are already trying to push the Tea Party aside and co-opt the incoming Congressmen. Several days after we announced our Freshman Orientation another organization, Claremont Institute, announced that they were having one too, on the same day, at the same time. They are promoting theirs in a way that makes it appear as an “Official” Freshman Orientation, and it is causing some confusion with the Freshmen. When we realized the conflict, we reached out to Claremont (Brian Kennedy, President – Phone: (909) 621-6825), let them know that we had a facility reserved and that we had spent in excess of a hundred thousand dollars flying in local tea party coordinators, and arranging the facility for this meeting. In a gesture of goodwill, we offered to combine events. We were summarily and, we thought rudely, dismissed by Claremont. We thought this was strange, in light of the fact that Claremont is normally a great organization, so we began to dig in and do some research. Here’s what we found:
    Claremont Institute Event
    a. Coordinated by lobbyists and campaign consultants. They are apparently trying to make sure that instead of sitting with grassroots tea party leaders from around the country, the lobbyists and consultants can sink their claws into the freshmen, and begin to “teach them” the ways of DC. The invitation lists prominent lobbyists and campaign consultants in DC as the “coordinators”, including:
    i. Chip Saltsman: Saltsman is a longtime DC insider and political consultant. He is most infamous for withdrawing his candidacy for RNC Chairman one day before the election following a controversy regarding his Christmas gift to almost 200 members of the RNC copies of a CD containing the song “BaracktheMagicNegro”
    ii. Tim Powers: Powers is another long time DC insider and the former Deputy Director of the Republican National Committee’s (RNC) Congressional Affairs and Strategic Planning. He is listed as Co-Chairman and Co-Founder of a lobbying firm in DC, Artemis Strategies. Their website says that “Artemis Strategies is a well respected Washington, D.C. asset. Prior to co-founding Artemis Strategies in the fall of 2002, Mr. Powers operated PowerStrategies, a public affairs and government relations firm he founded.” Powers appears to be the quintessential DC insider and lobbyist.

    b. Keynote Speaker – Talk Show Host – Bill Bennett

    c. Supported by none of the reformers in Congress. Instead it’s a lobbyist / political consultant event for the Freshmen snip

    [The help which Tea Party Patriots request is contacting the newly elected Congressional representatives to explain what is going on.]

  43. I’d hoped to avoid a distraction from Veterans’ Day comments here


    In a way this is a nice thought — devoting a whole blog thread to Veterans’ Day, or election night, or whatever. But that would kind of put pressure on Admin to post a new essay before normal on topic commenting could resume.

  44. So if your 4 years old and younger today you will work until you are 69 years old….well are they sure they will be jobs for all those old folks??? Just how many Walmart greeters do we need anyway???

  45. Oh lordy, it never stops, i find this quite disturbing actually, its like a rogues gallery.

    Fox : Al Qaeda leader has attended weekly prayer sessions on Capitol Hill since 9/11

    Some Muslims Attending Capitol Hill Prayer Group Have Terror Ties, Probe Reveals

    An Al Qaeda leader, the head of a designated terror organization and a confessed jihadist-in-training are among a “Who’s Who” of controversial figures who have participated in weekly prayer sessions on Capitol Hill since the 2001 terror attacks, an investigation by reveals.

    The Congressional Muslim Staff Association (CMSA) has held weekly Friday Jummah prayers for more than a decade, and guest preachers are often invited to lead the service. The group held prayers informally for about eight years before gaining official status in 2006 under the sponsorship of Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., one of two Muslims currently serving in Congress. The second Muslim congressman, Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., joined as co-sponsor after he was elected in 2008.

  46. moononpluto
    November 11th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Oh lordy, it never stops


    “Look through Joe Miller’s supporter list till we find one child molester, then we focus on him and BLAST it.”

  47. That’s assuming any of them are even guilty of having ‘terrorist ties.’ Defined by who? Fox?

    Probably about as much sense to that as saying Todd Palin had ‘ties’ to ‘secessionists.’

    Even Rauf has been ridiculously accused of that! (Of ties to ‘terrorists’, not to Alaskan Secessionists. 😉

  48. Oh, and for a very prompt answer to Moon’s next….

    Actually Rauf DOES have ties to Alsakan Secessionists! Some Eskimo Muslims in Canada want to build a mosque way up in the artic. And someone is talking about terrorists attacking the Artic next. They’re going to use the hole under the north pole to tunnel down to attack the US according to a thread on LiveJournal iirc. And Rauf wants to build a so-called ‘mosque’ in NY so of course he’s involved, as all mosque builders are the same. And all Secessionists everywhere drink mint juleps and have slaves. And all Muslims have slaves we know.

    So Rauf has ties to Alaska Seccession!


  49. Thank you to every veteran for all their sacrifices. God Bless them and their familes, and God Bless our beautiful country.

  50. Election Was a Reaction to ‘Shock and Awe’ Statism
    Thursday, 11 Nov 2010 11:14 AM Article Font Size
    By George Will

    As he promised it would be, Barack Obama’s presidency has been transformative, but not as he intended. Whether it lasts two or six more years, it is an exhausted volcano because its biggest consequence may already have happened: It has resuscitated the right, making 2010 conservatism’s best year in 30 years — since the election of Ronald Reagan.

    Republican gains were partly a result of the “shock-and-awe statism” (Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels’ phrase) of the healthcare legislation passed in March. Seven months later, a federal judge in Florida, hearing arguments about the constitutionality of penalizing Americans who do not purchase health insurance, was bemused.

    Lawyers defending the legislation said that the fee noncompliant Americans would be forced to pay is really just a tax. But during congressional debate on the legislation, Democrats adamantly denied it was a tax. So, in a rehearsal of an argument that will be heard by the Supreme Court, the judge said:

    Congress should not be permitted to secure and cast politically difficult votes on controversial legislation by deliberately calling something one thing, after which the defenders of that legislation take an “Alice-in-Wonderland” tack and argue in court that Congress really meant something else entirely, thereby circumventing the safeguard that exists to keep their broad power in check.

    This year two attempts to radically expand government supervision of Americans’ behavior collapsed. One concerned regulating the political process, the other regulating the planet’s climate.

    In January, the Supreme Court again tormented reformers who are eager to empower government officials to ration speech about government officials.

    The court ruled that because the First Amendment proscribes laws limiting political speech, it proscribes laws that limit independent candidate-related advocacy by Americans organized as corporations. In 2007, the court had held that the First Amendment protects issue advocacy by corporations.

    In his meretricious autumn campaigning, Obama told Americans that democracy was threatened by the amount of political speech the court empowered. Americans, however, are indifferent to arguments about process, which failing candidates talk about to avoid discussing their unpopular policies.

    Last summer The Economist noted that “the idea of a cap on America’s carbon emissions died (in the Senate) with barely the bathos of a whimper.” Although both Obama and John McCain endorsed the idea in 2008, Congress refused to be stampeded.

    This guarantees that the international climate conference that begins Nov. 29 in Cancun — successor to the Copenhagen (2009), Kyoto (1997) and Rio (1992) failures — will fail to do multitrillion-dollar injuries to global economic growth, and especially to America’s growth, by producing a binding treaty limiting supposed climate-changing gases.

    In 2010, Americans awakened to the fact that their financial future is much more precarious than they had understood. They realized they owe trillions for unfunded government employees’ pension and medical benefits. Thus there suddenly emerged an issue that may dominate this decade’s debate — how the collaboration between government workers’ unions and elected officials has looted state and municipal governments.

    In January, New Jersey’s new governor, Chris Christie, began concentrating attention on the process by which public sector unions prosper: They collect dues to spend electing their employers, who then hire more dues-paying union members who elect even more — and even more compliant — employers.

    Unionized public employees now outnumber unionized private sector workers, so unions desperately desire “card check” legislation. It would make it easier to herd private sector workers into unions by abolishing the right to secret ballots in unionization votes. The 2010 elections made “card check” as dead as government subsidies for broadcast journalism may soon be.

    As icing on conservatism’s 2010 cake, there was NPR’s self-immolation. It fired Juan Williams, ostensibly for speaking about certain feelings he has — and deplores — regarding some Muslims in some settings. NPR probably fired him because his views are too heterodox for some NPR liberals who favor diversity in everything but thought.

    From its inception in 1967, as a filigree on Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which in 1970 begat NPR, has been a solution in search of a problem. Forty-three years later, in the context of today’s information cornucopia, “public” broadcasting — its advocates flinch from candidly calling it government broadcasting — is even sillier than would be a Corporation for Public Newspapers.

    But in 2010, NPR became useful. It became a conservatives’ answer to the liberals’ challenge, “Where precisely would you begin cutting government?”

  51. Apparently, there is a growing chorus of opposition to Pelosi’s attempt to become the minority leader. Whatever happens this much is clear. Where Pelosi is concerned the fear factor is gone. Her strongest support comes from Republican staffers who want to use her as their whipping boy in 2012. That more than anything will be her enduring legacy.

  52. wbboei,

    Any idea whether the rumors of Pelosi talking to the Clintons recently is true? And if so, what if anything they would have talked about?

  53. Seriously Admin, we don’t ask for much but could you please please you invent an ignore post button before this moronic imbecile drives us all nuts.

  54. Well someone had to say it…..Obama won on a fluke that everyone hated Bush.

    Map narrows for Obama reelection campaign

    What many in the party believe – and more now are willing to voice publicly – is that 2008 may have been a referendum on President Bush and that Obama’s victory owed in large part to exhaustion with the outgoing administration.

    “People wanted to get rid of Bush in 2004, but they just couldn’t buy into Kerry,” said Colorado-based Democratic consultant Mike Stratton. “So effectively running against a guy who was hugely unpopular was greatly to Obama’s advantage.”

    “A ton of people who were for him just hated Bush,” added Jonathan Prince, another veteran Democratic strategist.

    Read more:

  55. I too beg for an ignore button…

    turndown if a plant makes oil or energy it burns what it makes and the extra is the product.

    from wikipedia: Theory and process

    In the method used by CWT, the water improves the heating process and contributes hydrogen to the reactions.
    In the Changing World Technologies (CWT) process,[1] the feedstock material is first ground into small chunks, and mixed with water if it is especially dry. It is then fed into a pressure vessel reaction chamber where it is heated at constant volume to around 250 °C. Similar to a pressure cooker (except at much higher pressure), steam naturally raises the pressure to 600 psi (4 MPa) (near the point of saturated water). These conditions are held for approximately 15 minutes to fully heat the mixture, after which the pressure is rapidly released to boil off most of the water (see: Flash evaporation). The result is a mix of crude hydrocarbons and solid minerals. The minerals are removed, and the hydrocarbons are sent to a second-stage reactor where they are heated to 500 °C, further breaking down the longer hydrocarbon chains. The hydrocarbons are then sorted by fractional distillation, in a process similar to conventional oil refining.
    The CWT company claims that 15 to 20% of feedstock energy is used to provide energy for the plant. The remaining energy is available in the converted product. Working with turkey offal as the feedstock, the process proved to have yield efficiencies of approximately 85%; in other words, the energy contained in the end products of the process is 85% of the energy contained in the inputs to the process (most notably the energy content of the feedstock, but also including electricity for pumps and natural gas or woodgas for heating). If one considers the energy content of the feedstock to be free (i.e., waste material from some other process), then 85 units of energy are made available for every 15 units of energy consumed in process heat and electricity. This means the “Energy Returned on Energy Invested” (EROEI) is (6.67), which is comparable to other energy harvesting processes. Higher efficiencies may be possible with drier and more carbon-rich feedstocks, such as waste plastic.
    By comparison, the current processes used to produce ethanol and biodiesel from agricultural sources have EROEI in the 4.2 range, when the energy used to produce the feedstocks is accounted for (in this case, usually sugar cane, corn, soybeans and the like). These EROEI values are not directly comparable, because these EROEI calculations include the energy cost to produce the feedstock, whereas the above EROEI calculation for thermal depolymerization process (TDP) does not.
    The process breaks down almost all materials that are fed into it. TDP even efficiently breaks down many types of hazardous materials, such as poisons and difficult-to-destroy biological agents such as prions.

  56. Netanyahu-Clinton meeting drags on over 5 hours

    11.11.10, 22:20

    The meeting between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is going on five hours and counting – well over the original plan of a one- to two-hour meeting.

    Both nations’ negotiation teams have gathered at Netanyahu’s hotel in New York to discuss Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, as both parties said before beginning the meeting.,7340,L-3983457,00.html

  57. Nice man that Jackson guy……… did he get so far?

    CNN personality Soledad O’Brien revealed in her new book that Jesse Jackson put her down for her skin color during a private meeting in 2007. During the meeting, Jackson complained to O’Brien, whose mother is a black woman from Cuba, that there weren’t any black anchors on CNN. When she pointed out that she was the anchor of American Morning, the activist replied, “You don’t count as black.”

  58. “Fox : Al Qaeda leader has attended weekly prayer sessions on Capitol Hill since 9/11

    Some Muslims Attending Capitol Hill Prayer Group Have Terror Ties, Probe Reveals”

    Did obama and his cows endorse this? Has anyone every embarrased the country more than this twit? What happened to protecting the people?

    This is on par with his statements about the 9 11 mosque and should be added to his impeachment record.

  59. ““Fox : Al Qaeda leader has attended weekly prayer sessions on Capitol Hill since 9/11

    Some Muslims Attending Capitol Hill Prayer Group Have Terror Ties, Probe Reveals””

    Oh my goodness! who the hell is watching over us that would allow these people to come into OUR US Capitol!?!

  60. did you all hear what happened in the UK very recently?

    disgusting, abosolutely disgusting. These people do not want to assimilate, no wonder Chancellor Merkel made her speech about the failure of multiculturalism very recently.

  61. sirmrks
    November 11th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    “just wanted to comment on the technology and say it is available. the rest of the article is critical. saw this in popular science magazine years ago and wonder why we as a country dont do more with it.”

    Well appreciated, sirmrks. Big Oil has always stonewalled alternative fossil fuel research and production. I was surprised to learn Chevron is partnering with an Algae production company having their refineries available to them for mass production implementing their extraction process for separating minerals, oil and gasoline out of the company’s raw algae farmed product. They are currently working on reducing their refining costs in an effort to be competitive with barrel oil pricing.

    I recently bought a diesel car a few weeks ago in anticipation of alternative fuels coming online very soon in the next few years. The car maker manual said bio-fuel would be safe for use noting a caveat the viscosity of bio-fuel is heavier than sulfur free diesel and could be a problem running through the car’s fuel filter. I don’t intend to test bio in my car just yet as winter is roaring in.. in my region. My initial attraction to the vehicle was the 42mi pg hwy and 32 local..

  62. anH
    November 11th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    Netanyahu-Clinton meeting drags on over 5 hours

    might be a breakthrough

  63. gonzo,

    With Jew-hating obama in the mix, I’m not sure what to hope for where Israel is concerned.

    What I do know is that with the Republicans regaining seats, this is a positive.

  64. update…

    Clinton offers Netanyahu security pledge on peace talks
    6:42pm EST
    By Jeffrey Heller

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton assured Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday that Israel’s security requirements would be fully taken into account in any peace deal with the Palestinians.

    In a move that could allow Netanyahu to persuade his governing coalition to back a new freeze on Israeli settlement construction, Clinton and the visiting Israeli leader ended a marathon round of talks in New York with a strong declaration of Washington’s “unshakable commitment to Israel’s security and to peace in the region.”

    “The prime minister and the secretary agreed on the importance of continuing direct negotiations to achieve our goals,” the two sides said in a joint statement, which did not mention the settlement issue directly.

    But Clinton repeated that the peace talks — which have hit an impasse over the settlement issue — could yet yield an independent Palestine living next to Israel “with secure and recognized borders that reflect subsequent developments and meet Israeli security requirements.”

    “Those requirements will be fully taken into account in any future peace agreement,” the joint statement said.

    It added that any future Palestinian state should be based on its 1967 borders with “agreed swaps” of territory, holding out the prospect that Israel might retain some of the occupied West Bank in exchange for giving the Palestinians other Israeli territory.

    Israeli officials said Netanyahu, who faces a tough political sell within his own coalition on the settlement issue, has pushed Clinton for broad new U.S.-Israel understandings on Israel’s security needs in any eventual peace agreement.

    “The chances of reaching a peace agreement will be improved significantly by achieving comprehensive security understandings between Israel and the United States,” Netanyahu said before Thursday’s talks began.

    Israel wants a long-term military presence in the Jordan Valley along the eastern border of a future Palestinian state as well as financial help to pay for security arrangements that would be necessary if a peace deal is achieved.

    U.S. officials said Clinton and Netanyahu met over a seven-hour period in New York, including one-on-one meetings and broader discussions which involved other U.S. officials including Middle East peace envoy George Mitchell and National Security Council Middle East specialist Dan Shapiro.


    Thursday’s talks marked the Obama administration’s latest attempt to restart the direct peace talks that began in Washington on September 2 but were suspended by the Palestinians three weeks later when Netanyahu refused to extend a 10-month limited building freeze in West Bank settlements.

    The deadlock over settlements appeared to deepen this week when Israel announced it was going to proceed with a new housing project in part of the West Bank that it annexed to Jerusalem 43 years ago, underscoring Palestinian fears that Netanyahu’s government will push ahead with settlements regardless of the impact on the peace process.

    Clinton, who on Wednesday said the Israeli decision on settlement building was counterproductive, said she still believed that Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas were serious about the talks.

    “The prime minister and President Abbas are both very committed to a two-state solution. And we are going to find a way forward,” she said before the meeting with Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu, whose governing coalition is dominated by pro-settler parties, has thus far resisted calls for a freeze on settlement construction.

    Political analysts have suggested that new U.S. security commitments could help him persuade his coalition to reinstate the temporary moratorium on construction, which would allow the talks to resume.

    With the peace process in limbo, the Palestinians have stepped up calls for the international community to recognize Palestinian statehood now — a move the United States fears could further complicate the situation.

    Abbas said on Thursday the Palestinians would have to consider alternatives to the peace process given the expansion of settlements on land that the Palestinians hope will eventually become their state.

    “They (the Israelis) are undertaking unilateral actions every day,” Abbas said in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

  65. dear admin

    thank you so much for the veterans day videos. in the second video @ approx .45 there is a picture of a consolidated PBY catalina. my dad flew as a navy crew member in this aircraft (south pacific) during the war. they were relatively small reconnaissance, rescue type sea-planes.

    i sent the videos on to my dad. he is 87yrs old. the greatest generation.

    thank you to ALL veterans.

  66. I work with a Nurse that served in Nam today, we gave her a standing ovation…brought tears to my eyes today thinking of my brother over there…

    I want to thank you all, the soldiers for their sacrifices, and the medical personnel that cared for our fallen Heroes in their time of need. To all that have the courage to answer a countries call to arms. You are a different breed, you are what legends are made of… and we as a nation are humbled and grateful to you.

  67. I think Net does not trust the fraud and despite Hillary’s efforts, he will not sign his countries existence away. HE KNOWS NOT TO TRUST THE FRAUD

  68. I found a cool website called where you can send care packages to soldiers through it. I requested an address and have been spending the day assembling stuff for female soldiers since you can specify that your package to to “any female soldier” — so far, it’s a bunch of boxes of tampons, a bunch of nail polish (hey, you need some frivolous stuff, too), a bunch of tubes of scented hand cream from Bath and Body Works, toothpaste, floss, and I ordered five pairs of warm, cushioned skiing socks from REI to pack in there. Only five care packages, but that’s not bad. I’m going to slap them in the mail when the socks get here.

    I hope they get there — the mailing address looks like someone had a mouthful of alphabet soup and sneezed.

    I’m going to stick a postage-paid postcard in there so I can make sure the stuff gets there, and if it does, I can start sending books, magazines, and some of my oldie-but-goodie DVDs.

  69. I loved the VJ Day Honolulu, Hawaii video admin posted.

    Taken in real time, someone had the presence of mind to film that historic moment of celebration for edification of future generations. Just beautiful!

  70. Any idea whether the rumors of Pelosi talking to the Clintons recently is true? And if so, what if anything they would have talked about?
    I have no idea Jan. But I am reasonably certain that Pelosi is desperate. Like I said earlier the fear factor she once had is gone and people with ancient and current grudges are turning on her. She can celebrate her historic accomplishments by she will be doing so alone because the country hates what she accomplished. Obama, the party and she promised democrats cover if they passed Obama care, and instead swaggering Obama thew all of the wolves. She is the scapegoat, and on the odds she does not like it.

  71. Massive Voting Fraud Reported in Massachusetts.

    Community organizing group Neighbor to Neighbor was seen violating laws at numerous polling sites, with the apparent blessing of the poll-watchers.

    Martin Solomon gives and on site report of community organizers abusing ballot protocols with voters.

    Martin Solomon writes on a variety of topics at his blog Solomonia. He is a member of the advisory boards of Christians and Jews United for Israel and Americans for Peace and Tolerance.

  72. JanH
    November 11th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Any idea whether the rumors of Pelosi talking to the Clintons recently is true? And if so, what if anything they would have talked about?

    Well, Bill has been repeatedly named by mainstream media at being sooooo good at talking people out of running for office.

    They accused him of being the mastermind behind the attempt to “force out” Joe Sestak in PA to allow Arlen Specter to win unchallenged. They claimed he was the unseen hand behind “nicely, quietly suggesting” that Kendrick Meek should quit one week before Florida voted for their senator.

    So maybe Bill had a nice little chat with Nancy P. about how gracious (and convenient for Obama) it would be for if she just crawled off into the sunset.

  73. “I continue to ask myself, where has my democracy gone.”

    I ask myself where has enforcement of the Law gone? Life as we knew it, and respect for the Law, has been turned upside-down since Obama took office.

  74. I just read a Maureen Dowd column where she rips Obama a new one. But what’s really rich is that she calls him a media creation – when she was one of the biggest culprits with her Clinton-bashing and Obama deification!!

  75. Proposal: Blue-Collar Workers’ Day
    So our national holiday of Veterans’ Day has just passed, and that, the home movies here, in combination with having watched this video link below, which is an interview of a couple small business entrepreneurs in their manufacturing machine shop, gives rise to my proposal.

    I grew up with folks like this. Now I am a school teacher and it occurs to me that the kids work through a project in much the same manner these men describe. Hmmmm…

    Machine Tool Principle –

    I’ve been reading about FDR’s “Deputy President” Harry Hopkins and looking at a lot of photographs of working people and great projects. Couldn’t we just get back to making stuff? Creating new ideas? Making things better?

  76. The clown in the Oval Office gets egg all over his face again.

    What’s next, will they ask him to return his Peace Prize?

    His 15 minutes are over, and EVERYBODY knows it!

    Obama’s economic view is rejected on world stage

    SEOUL — President Obama’s hopes of emerging from his Asia trip with the twin victories of a free trade agreement with South Korea and a unified approach to spurring global economic growth ran into resistance on all fronts yesterday, putting Obama at odds with his key allies and largest trading partners.

    The most concrete trophy expected to emerge from the trip eluded his grasp: a long-delayed free trade agreement with South Korea, first negotiated by the Bush administration and then reopened by Obama, to have greater protections for US workers.

  77. shadowfax,
    They should of sent Hillary to negotiate for that trade agreement….we’d of gotten it. Nobody can speak to the king.

  78. What I find interesting is the 7-hour discussion Hillary had with Netanyahu. She is a great negotiator and look what Obama screwed up yesterday. World leaders won’t deal with him….I wonder how the republicans are going to do….my guess they’ll get what they want because they will have supeona power.

  79. Senior Republican against US aid to Palestinians

    Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen, who stands to head House Foreign Affairs Committee, opposes transfer of $150 in aid because Palestinian leadership ‘failing to live up to commitments’

    Yitzhak Benhorin

    WASHINGTON – The likely next head of the US House Foreign Affairs Committee said she is against handing out $150 million in direct aid to help the Palestinian Authority close its budget deficit.

    On Wednesday Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the new assistance to the Palestinian Authority and called for other donor countries to step up aid.

    The new funding was described as budget support for the Palestinians and is separate from the $400 million in aid that President Barack Obama pledged in June during a White House visit by Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

    Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican who stands to take over in January after her party won the House of Representatives, said she was deeply concerned over what she called the bailout of the Palestinian leadership, which she claims has failed to live up to its commitment to dismantle the Palestinian terror infrastructure, eradicate corruption and recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

    “Sending US tax dollars to the Palestinian Authority to help them cover their budget shortfall is a bailout, plain and simple,” she said.

    “It is deeply disturbing that the Administration is continuing to bail out the Palestinian leadership when they continue to fail to meet their commitments, under international agreements and requirements outlined in US law, including dismantling the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure, combating corruption, stopping anti-Israel and anti-Semitic incitement, and recognizing Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

    Ros-Lehtinen, a Cuban-American from Florida, said that as long as the Palestinian leaders receive unconditional aid they have no reason to change their ways and be committed to peace.

    “So long as Palestinian leaders keep being financially rewarded by the U.S. unconditionally, they will have zero reason to change their ways and truly commit to peace. It is long past time to hold Ramallah accountable,” she said.

    She stressed that funds are continuing to flow into Ramallah despite reports indicating that corruption among the Palestinian leadership is increasing.

    In 2006 Ros-Lehtinen, who represents a district with a large Jewish population, authored the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act, which conditioned US assistance to the Palestinian leadership “upon compliance that it renounce and combat violent extremism, abide by its existing agreements, and recognize Israel’s right to exist.”,7340,L-3983543,00.html


    Poor bambi’s commitment to his Muslim friends is going down…down…down…


    Groooovy, man.

    Here is a sooopah-dooopah quote:

    “Barack Obama has done great things and in the end probably will be a great president.”

    Robert Shrum

    Barack Obama will be back on top

    Here’s why the president will win re-election in 2012

    posted on November 11, 2010, at 5:50 PM

    Seldom have so many observers from so many precincts in the press and so many points on the political spectrum converged so unanimously on a verdict writing off a president — except, of course, when their counterparts called Ronald Reagan a “one-year phenomenon” and declared Bill Clinton “irrelevant” after the first midterms of their tenures.

    This time, the candidate with the magic in 2008 has become the imperiled and, in the more partisan accounts, the mortally wounded president of 2010. Predictably, Republicans characterize him as a spent and repudiated force whose major achievements will be rolled back forthwith. Others who were once fervent supporters have suggested, before and after the dark passage of the midterm elections, that he and his unhappy band can’t emote, communicate, set priorities, weave a narrative, or even schedule a foreign trip.

    Thus comes the easy criticism of his visit to India and elsewhere in Asia right after the results were in: He should have canceled to stay home and address the damage. By doing precisely what? Abruptly calling off the journey would not only have damaged U.S. relations with some of our most critical trading and anti-terrorist partners, who countenanced delay when health reform hung in the balance, but also would have ratified the notion of a depleted and disabled presidency. Those gifted with 20/20 hindsight may concede that much, but then as amateur schedulers they conclude that the White House never should have chosen this time, knowing what was in store politically on Nov. 2.

    In any event, Obama will be back by the time Congress gathers in Washington for the lame-duck session, with Republicans mainlining tea while plotting their plans for inaction, reaction, and a recession, which they devoutly wish will still be painfully felt in 2012. The president will be there to negotiate with an opposition that appears intent on adhering to JFK’s warning that it’s impossible to bargain with those who insist that “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is negotiable.”

    Some of the criticisms of Obama and his operation are fair. For example, while rescuing the middle class and the nation from economic catastrophe, the administration also came across as more interested in securing the solvency of the banking houses on Wall Street — which was essential — than in saving family homes — which is not only a matter of economic justice, but an essential foundation for sustained economic recovery.

    But other criticisms are mere covers for an ideological agenda, left or right. What does it mean to say the president should have worked solely on jobs, jobs, jobs to the exclusion of health or financial reform? What more could he have done beyond passing the largest stimulus bill in world history?

    Yes, he could have reinforced an image of economic concern by giving a monthly televised report to the nation, explaining the progress, the shortfalls, and his vision for the future. And he could have drawn sharper dividing lines in the 2010 campaign on tax cuts — “for the few or for you” — rather than ineffectual appeals to “go forward not back,” when countless Americans wouldn’t mind going back to full employment, fully valued homes, and fully funded 401k plans.

    But doing less on health and financial regulation to prove he cared more about jobs wouldn’t have created a single additional job — and it would have forfeited the chance of a generation to reform health care and left America and the world more vulnerable to another financial meltdown. Indeed, Obama’s conventionally scorned refusal to postpone the health issue until his second two years has surely been vindicated: What chance would reform have now?

    Barack Obama has done great things and in the end probably will be a great president. 2010 was not a great campaign for him or for the Democrats. They will have to do better. But the truth of the immediate past, and the shape of the future, involve more than tactics, message, and expressions of empathy. Ask a simple question: What would the outcome have been on Nov. 2 if the unemployment rate was 6 percent? As James Carville famously said, “It’s the economy stupid.” The logic is compelling; the history proves it — and together they disprove the Republican verdict that the midterm losses were a repudiation of Obama’s agenda.

    In pursuing that misconception, a tea-stained GOP may manifest an obsession with repealing or defunding the health bill, in the process alienating the majority of Americans, much as the party did when it pursued the impeachment of Bill Clinton to the exclusion of progress on education, Social Security, and the environment — the pressing concerns of that time.

    There may be minor changes in the health legislation, especially in the provisions on small-business reporting. Obama supports this. But the Republicans won’t have enough votes in the Senate to override a presidential veto. They could close down the government in a budget battle over defunding, which would have only a marginal effect on an entitlement program largely insulated from the annual appropriations process. For this, would the GOP really plunge into the Newt Gingrich abyss again?

    The GOP campaigned with a pledge — but not a plan — to fix the economy. But fixing it is the last thing Republicans actually intend to do. Protracted unemployment raises their job prospects for 2012, from Capitol Hill to the White House — and they know it. But their own contradictory call to cut off the stimulus by cutting the deficit while simultaneously extending George W. Bush’s tax cuts may undo them here too. There will be a compromise that preserves the deficit-fueling tax cuts, at least for now. But on the other side of the balance sheet, the GOP cannot prevail on deep reductions in programs from education to public safety, let alone Social Security and Medicare — which is why the party has never dared to specify cuts, preferring to march under the tattered banner of waste, fraud, and abuse.

    By limiting the original stimulus and blocking any major addition to it, Republicans have delayed and slowed recovery. Finally, there are signs that the pace may be picking up. According to The New York Times, the chief economist at High Frequency Economics, who forecast the downturn, sees bank lending gaining steam and foresees rising job growth, with 2011 “a true turning point for unemployment.” Paul Krugman thinks not, and for once Republicans will try to make him right. But what if they’re wrong? The politics of “no” worked, but maybe only for a while. It will be the economy in 2012 — and it’s the GOP that could prove to be stupid.

    The great persuader will be back — almost as soon as he’s back from Asia. The White House operation will improve; but most decisively, so may the GDP. The next two years will be a bumpy ride, but Barack Obama can renew his presidency — and even without the safety net of an extremist GOP nominee — in re-election. Then like Reagan, glibly consigned to the dust bin as a one-year wonder after the 1982 midterms, he may yet ultimately realign American politics.

    One of the most astute people I’ve ever met in politics has observed: “You’re never as smart as you look when you win, and never as dumb as you look when you lose.” That’s true now of this president, his strategists, and his party. When things in politics get bad, they tend to get worse — until they start to get better.

  81. Shrum wrote:
    They could close down the government in a budget battle over defunding, which would have only a marginal effect on an entitlement program largely insulated from the annual appropriations process.


    What “entitlement program” does this refer to?

  82. Below is a very good interview between Rachel Maddow and Jon Stewart.

    Yea, I know what you are probably thinking, but I think what Jon Stewart is actually being serious and trying to explain why the networks making the news as fights between the Republicans and Democrats is missing the point of telling the truth about what the news should be about. All the hype and spin is what leads away from the truth in reporting.

    Of course, Maddow will gain very little from what he said, she likes to think she is above it all, but maybe a little will sink in…if she has any intelligence at all.

    The beginning of the interview is making nice bs, but it gets really good around 13:00.

    I watched the top video, to hear the whole story, not the cut pieces below.

    I believe it is well worth watching…

  83. #
    November 12th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    They should of sent Hillary to negotiate for that trade agreement….we’d of gotten it. Nobody can speak to the king.

    Ya mean that Hillary is the real deal and Barry is the Fraud that doesn’t have a clue?


  84. November 12, 2010 10:46 AM

    Bill Clinton: I’m a Fan of George Bush’s Memoir

    Former President George W. Bush has found an unexpected fan in former President Bill Clinton – not for his politics, but for his literary prowess.

    In a statement released on Friday, the former President praised Mr. Bush for his recent memoir, “Decision Points,” which hit stores on Tuesday.

    Calling the book “well-written and interesting,” Clinton recommended the read to “people of all political stripes” and said it would provide a window into why he was fond of the former Republican leader despite the political differences between the two.

    “George W. Bush also gives readers a good sense of what it’s like to be president, to take the responsibilities of the office seriously, do what you think is right, and let history be the judge,” the statement said, according to the Associated Press. “The book may not change the minds of those who disagree with decisions President Bush made, but it will help you to understand better the forces that moulded him, and the convictions that drove him to make those decisions.”

    Mr. Clinton, who also maintained a friendly relationship with Mr. Bush’s father, former President George H. W. Bush, released his own memoir, “My Life,” in 2004.

  85. JanH
    November 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    November 12, 2010 10:46 AM

    Bill Clinton: I’m a Fan of George Bush’s Memoir

    Former President George W. Bush has found an unexpected fan in former President Bill Clinton – not for his politics, but for his literary prowess.

    I saw a little of an interview with Bush, he said he and Bill have become good friends, that they don’t really debate politics but what a great spirit and good heart Bill has.

    Hannity tired to bring up something negative about Bill, (of course) and George W. shut him down immediately. He showed that he really does admire Bill.

  86. Jan H,
    I have been looking for a video of Hillary’s trip to Asia that she just got back on. It was her last stop in Samoa. The reason I want to find it is because she appears to be reading a PDA or something. I am just curious about what it is she is holding. I have NEVER seen her do this, so I am really interested in that video. If you have in idea how to find it let me know.

    Hillary’s the real deal….I have totally converted the bot that I work with, and she will get to vote in 2012′. So here we go, maybe I can change a few more over to our side.

  87. Most of the others I work with are republicans and couldn’t wait to kick out the dumocrats….now Alan Simpson proposals have come out and the smile on their faces over their recent election blowout has turned into frowns…LOL! This can only help Ms. Hillary Clinton!

  88. I have had no luck changing the minds of the Dems I work with. 100% obots.

    Most of them voted for Hillary in the primary and then to the Fraud in the general.
    They are really sick of my rubbing salt into the wounds.


    The last election showed they are out of touch with reality and their President is toast.

  89. Shadowfax,
    Well, we really won’t have to do much convincing…after Obama allows the rethugs to run wild…tide will turn back….I will get the popcorn ready!

  90. Shadowfax
    November 12th, 2010

    Obama’s economic view is rejected on world stage

    Obama has become the biggest liability our country faces. Worse than the crippled economy, worse than fighting overseas wars on two fronts and worse than the joblessness he has no idea how to fix!



  91. confloyd,

    I’m still looking for the one you asked for, but I did come across the following:

    Part 1 of 4 – November 5 2010 – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the Christchurch Town Hall

  92. Bwahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    “Pelosi: ‘We Didn’t Lose Because of Me’”

    Um, not entirely, Congresswoman. Your boss and is crappy legislation and arrogant sneer helped.

    And to Make My Day

    Karen Thurman – HUGE OBOT and head of the Florida Dem Party Chairwomen, and a COMPLETE PHONY when it came to having our votes count at the RBC – has “resigned.” Citing she wants to “spend more time with her family.”

    Clinton Karma rules!

  93. and in searching for more on Thurman – I ran across this bit of fun:

    Atlantic Monthly political reporter Marco Ambinder tweeted this message.

    Worst kept secret in Florida politics is that WH tried to get Clinton to nudge Meek aside a while ago. Clinton told the WH to shove off then

  94. Nails it – although timidly….

    Wednesday, November 10, 2010
    End the False Pretense of Obama is a Wonk

    I talked to some people on Twitter about President Obama today. Any President that created this horrible deficit commission and hired Lawrence Summers does not deserve to be called a policy wonk. Quick: name your favorite Obama policy speech. I can’t think of one.

    Progressives wonder why Obama keeps talking about bipartisanship. Obama is strickly thinking about how he will be perceived by moderate voters. Obama can talk about hope and change on the stump. When he needs to explain health care reform he is an utter failure. Bill Clinton had neoliberal leaning, but he had a clear grasp of policy. Obama put so many conservatives on the deficit commission because he was never actually serious about the deficit or liberal policy. Obama was playing politics for the Washington Beltway set.

    I thought about what makes Obama tick. The answer is Obama is a politician solely focused on getting re-elected. The way to lower health insurance costs isn’t by giving health insurers a monopoly on every American citizen who does not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid. That increased business makes it easier for Obama to ask the health insurance industry for campaign contributions.

    The White House killed an attempt by Alcee Hastings to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in 2009. If Obama really wanted Congress to give him a bill ending DADT then why kill the legislation? Hastings said White House officials told him it wasn’t the right time. That clearly shows Obama putting politics above policy.

  95. Tennessee Man Sentenced for Illegally Accessing Former Governor Sarah Palin’s E-Mail Account and Obstruction of Justice

    WASHINGTON – David C. Kernell, 23, today was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for intentionally accessing without authorization the e-mail account of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin and obstruction of justice, announced Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer of the Criminal Division and U.S. Attorney William C. Killian for the Eastern District of Tennessee. U.S. District Judge Thomas W. Phillips also imposed a three-year term of supervised released. In imposing the prison sentence, Judge Phillips recommended service at Midway Sanction Center, but noted that the Bureau of Prisons would decide where Kernell would serve his sentence.

    On April 30, 2010, after a week-long trial, a jury found Kernell guilty of one count of misdemeanor unauthorized access to obtain information from a computer and one count of obstruction of justice. The jury found Kernell not guilty of wire fraud. The jury could not reach a verdict on the identity theft charge and the judge declared a mistrial as to that charge.

    According to evidence presented at trial, on Sept. 16, 2008, Kernell, a resident of Knoxville, Tenn., obtained unauthorized access to former Gov. Palin’s personal e-mail account by resetting the account password. Evidence showed that after answering a series of security questions that allowed him to reset the password and gain access to the e-mail account, Kernell read the contents of the account and made screenshots of the e-mail directory, e-mail content and other personal information. Kernell posted screenshots of the e-mails and other personal information to a public website. Kernell also posted the new e-mail account password that he had created, thus providing access to the account by others.

    Evidence at trial showed that Kernell became aware on Sept. 16, 2008, after the illegal entry into the email account, of a possible FBI investigation. Evidence showed that Kernell began a series of deletions of records and documents with the intent to impede an anticipated FBI investigation.

    The case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Krotoski currently detailed to the Criminal Division’s Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS) and Assistant U.S. Attorney Greg Weddle of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Tennessee. CCIPS Trial Attorney Josh Goldfoot provided significant assistance. The case was investigated by the FBI’s Anchorage, Alaska, and Knoxville field offices.

  96. “Worst kept secret in Florida politics is that WH tried to get Clinton to nudge Meek aside a while ago. Clinton told the WH to shove off then”


    And yet they allowed him to take the heat for it as did the media.

  97. Well this is kind of significant…very significant, have they heard something.

    Washington Post calling for Obama not to run in 2012.

    One and done: To be a great president, Obama should not seek reelection in 2012

    To that end, we believe Obama should announce immediately that he will not be a candidate for reelection in 2012.

    If the president goes down the reelection road, we are guaranteed two years of political gridlock, at a time when we can ill afford it. But by explicitly saying he will be a one-term president, Obama can deliver on his central campaign promise of 2008, draining the poison from our culture of polarization and ending the resentment and division that have eroded our national identity and common purpose.

    We do not come to this conclusion lightly. But it is clear, we believe, that the president has largely lost the consent of the governed. The midterm elections were effectively a referendum on the Obama presidency. And even if it was not an endorsement of a Republican vision for America, the drubbing the Democrats took was certainly a vote of no confidence in Obama and his party. The president has almost no credibility left with Republicans and little with independents.

  98. Jan H, I am leaving for work but will look at those videos later on today. You know I can’t comment from work, although I have a couple of times when I just had to answer something on here, LOL!

    I’ve also been see a 507 ad here in Texas where this white haired presidential candidate promises to keep spending like a drunken sailor. It is sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation….I muckety mapped that foundation….all I can say WOW! All sorts of rethugs and dems in that foundation. Can you say Combine!

  99. I think the WApo has been given the green light to set it up for Obama standing down in 2012, thats how this feels, i’ve never ever heard for this kind of withdrawl before and from the Wapo.

  100. moononpluto
    November 12th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    I think the WApo has been given the green light to set it up for Obama standing down in 2012, thats how this feels, i’ve never ever heard for this kind of withdrawl before and from the Wapo.

    I agree. I think this is a trial balloon. They want to gauge public perception of Obama not running for reelection – will blacks see this as a betrayal? will democrats buy into this? can Obama count on cooperation from the republicans? will they trust him if he pledges not to run even if the economy improves in 2 years? These are questions that Obama needs to answer before he contemplates not running.

  101. Here is the finest example of outrage I’ve read in a long time encompassing ALL we detest about this President and what is left of his administration:

    (from a fellow blogger who should be one of us)


    I believe we have been chasing shadows.

    We are all missing the bigger picture. We keep frittering around the edges of it all and coming to wrong conclusions.

    We are in an either/or situation.

    Either Stanley Kurtz and David Horowitz are unserious nutjobs, tinfoil hat conspiracy wackos, Oliver Stone crazy… or we are swinging and missing at the wrong pitch.

    Two books, Radical-In-Chief and The Shadow Party respectively, outline a roadmap for what is taking place in this land of ours. And like the silly joke about the guy who dropped his car keys in the dark, but keeps looking under the streetlamp, because that’s where the light is, we are never going to get to the right answers until we start asking the right questions.

    It has become more and more apparent that crisis socialism and the shadow party that is working the marionette strings behind it, have their game face on. We are still in the locker room putting on our socks. (Soros and his accomplices)

    1)They create a fiscal crisis, couch it in “protection of the little guy” terms, give it a soft sounding organizational name and then use it to tear down capitalism, utilizing the very tenets necessary to survive and thrive in a free market society. And no, it is not enough to say “Alinsky tactics” and believe that amounts to an understanding of the depth and breadth of this movement.

    2) When the “capitalist” free market system gets pounded with its own rulebook, and can’t respond swiftly enough, they storm the gates with race hucksters, gender hucksters, ethnic hucksters. (The newest “hucksterism” is Muslim-mania. Leave ALL Muslims alone, even if they are linked to terrorists!) At the 08′ Primarys; “RACISM” was put back on the table.)And the mania continues.

    There is a whole cottage industry of hucksterism, that makes its money on doing two things. They make sure that their “little guy” feels like he is being put down…and they keep him down. This does not work without the anger of “victims”. Therefore, victims have to constantly be created, often out of whole cloth. More importantly, victims have to be kept down as victims. There is no anger when victimization is “cured”.

    Like the primordial slime in Ghostbusters, crisis socialism feeds off negative energy. This, not any phony “compassion” is the real reason that racism will not be “cured” in this country. The crisis socialists need “racism” like Audrey II needs blood to grow and thrive. It does not matter one whit whether it exists or does not exist, they will pick someone or something, anyone or anything, Karl Rove or Fred Barnes, the Republican Party or the Tea Party, and call them racists. They will never let this wound heal because they need to keep it infected. They will pick at this scab until it bleeds.

    3)When things get too hot in the kitchen for the crisis socialists, when the dunderheaded Republicans get too close, the crisis socialists will find a “wedge issue” and throw it into the mix. And, lo and behold…the dummies (Far Leftists) bite on it every time. Without exception.

    The crisis socialists feed off the resulting anger, they whip up their “little guy” victims and say “See, THEY hate you!”. And off we go, down some stupid blind alley, on some stupid issue that doesn’t mean squat and deflects attention away from the wholesale invasion and further deterioration of a free market society.

    4)This crappy, bumbling, fumbling, rank amateur administration hasn’t passed a budget, knew for years that the current tax RATES (not “Bush tax cuts”, only an imbecile would use that term), were set to expire. That’s right, we have no budget and we have no answer for what our tax rates are going to be. How can any sound business forecast under those circumstances? They can’t. That’s the point.

    It’s a crisis creation and it has the effect of destroying budget forecasting. Ask who Harry Boyte is. Or Heather Booth. Or Bob Creamer. Or what George Soros has done in five countries. (Soros has bankrupted 5 countries through currency manipulation)

    And yet, what is the one, single, solitary issue that Pelosi wants to raise in the lame duck session? Right, the DREAM Act. Wedge issue.

    Bite on that, America.

    5)Unions, especially “government employee” unions…have become the Workers’ Party. There is no denying that, they are so tied to crisis socialism that it is impossible to tell where ACORN begins and the SEIU ends. They are the same plate of spaghetti.

    The “immigration” fiasco is the coup de grace. I put quotes in “immigration” because that is not what it is when people crash your borders and hide out in your country. It’s a home invasion, but we are too lazy to care about the meaning of words.

    6) We are disrespected around the world and cannot get anything done. When your view of this land of ours is one requiring deep bows, abject apologies and genuflection to the rest of the world, when you run around treating this land as a doormat, you are hard pressed to complain when the rest of the world wipes their feet on you.

    We are not simply devaluing our currency, we are devaluing our brand. “American” policy, goods, services, culture, ingenuity, and yes, exceptionalism, used to command respect and admiration. Even from those who envied us or wanted to take a shot at us. No longer. We have bowed and scraped our way to mediocrity in two short years. We (Obama) says, we are nothing special, no more so than the Brits or the Greeks or anyone else and then wonder why people treat us as nothing special.

    Obama has single-handedly destroyed the Mideast peace process by insisting that Israel not build homes in its own capital. A foreign policy move so inane, clumsy and foolish, even the opposing side slapped its forehead and said, “Where do you want me to go from here?”

    We are clumsy, fumbling, bumbling amateurs on a world stage, greeting each passing day with piled on humiliation after humiliation.

    And Nancy Pelosi and her cadre of fellow travelers threw a party in their own honor. Heaven knows, we have so little left, they might as well congratulate themselves on a job well done.

    And virtually every one of these above six items, destroying our nation from the inside, (as Bin Laden predicted would happen) is pushed by the far left Democratic Party, hidden by the media in their pocket and run in the shadows by the former SDS, Weathermen, ACORN and SEIU thugs, sponsored by Soros and his ilk and we keep wondering about things like whether Obama is a centrist? We will be fed a consistent stream of lies and distortions via the secret society of Journolistas and in the NYTImes, informally known as the Daily Duranty.

    If we are not serious enough to stop using their subliminal terms and phrases, if we are too lazy to care enough to understand the real issues and only want to scratch a millimeter beneath the surface, then we will get precisely what we have coming. A secret, shadow, distorted, hidden agenda government that has absolutely no interest in anything other than the implementation against our will of a socialist Utopian, “for our own good” brand of austerity crammed down legislation and from the bench fiats.

    California is the canary in the coal mine. Except the coal mine has been shuttered. California is dead, long live California. The unions and the crisis socialists own it, lock, stock and barrel. Ignore it at your peril.

    Again, either Stanley Kurtz and David Horowitz are completely nuts or it high time we stop asking the wrong questions and stop settling for the inane answers we have been receiving.

  102. moononpluto
    November 12th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Well this is kind of significant…very significant, have they heard something.

    Washington Post calling for Obama not to run in 2012.

    Best news I’ve heard in a long time.

    Let this snowball with a single voice begin rolling down hill gathering momentum until the once tiny snowball turns into a force 4 of voices great enough to destroy the current leadership of this country!

  103. The parrrttttttteeeeeessss over.
    Turn down the lights.
    The media is turning on Him.
    Here come the fights.


    Break out the popcorn, put yer feet up on the table and watch the Obamacratic Party burn to the ground.

    I never thought Barry would unwind and have rotten tomatoes tossed at him this soon.

    Karma baby.

    This is what you get Nasty and Barry.
    Shame on you for your corruption and betrayal.

  104. Obama has the opportunity to seize the high ground and the imagination of the nation once again, and to galvanize the public for the hard decisions that must be made. The only way he can do so, though, is by putting national interests ahead of personal or political ones.

    To that end, we believe Obama should announce immediately that he will not be a candidate for reelection in 2012.

    Barry seizing the high ground… that would be a first!!!

  105. To that end, we believe Obama should announce immediately that he will not be a candidate for reelection in 2012.

    Can you even imagine what drama this is going to cause in the White House?

    OMG, selves will fly like confetti on New Years day. Barry will be chain smoking right in front of MO and her sludge garden. And Alexrodekill will be completely bald by midnight.

  106. Hehehe,

    I don’t know if this was on Drudge or not, I couldn’t find it, so I left the link to WaPo’s article on Drudge.

    I hope they post it in big font so Barry will see it. 😆

  107. Shadowfax
    November 12th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Thanks, Shadow- This is a signal we needed telling the “ONE” he had better start packing and take his towering hussey with him-

  108. JanH-

    “Obama has single-handedly destroyed the Mideast peace process by insisting that Israel not build homes in its own capital. A foreign policy move so inane, clumsy and foolish, even the opposing side slapped its forehead and said, “Where do you want me to go from here?”

    I emboldened this paragraph for you… meaning, everyone “GETS IT” Obama is trying to subvert the ME Peace process… by placing impossible demands on Israel. All we have to do is be strong and keep the faith until resolution is achieved by others concerned about leveling the playing field.

  109. Syria has not met US hopes: Clinton
    (AFP) – 3 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — Syria has failed to meet Washington’s hopes since the Obama administration started to engage with the former US foe, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in an interview published Friday.

    “Syria’s behavior has not met our hopes and expectations over the past 20 months — and Syria’s actions have not met its international obligations,” the chief US diplomat told the Lebanese newspaper An-Nahar.

    “Syria can still choose another path and we hope that it does,” she added.

    “Let me be clear: We are not engaging for engagement’s sake. We are engaging to advance our interests and to find areas where cooperation can promote mutual interests,” she said.

    The Obama administration announced in June last year it would send an ambassador back to Syria as Washington tries to engage with Damascus in a bid to revive Arab-Israeli peace talks.

    However, its nominee for ambassador — Robert Ford — has still not been confirmed by the Senate.

    Clinton added: “We have had some useful conversations.”

    “For example, special envoy George Mitchell has engaged with Syria on the Middle East peace progress, and my Assistant Secretary Jeff Feltman has had good consultations with Syrian officials about Iraq,” she said.

    “But we have also had some very difficult discussions with Damascus about its actions in Lebanon and elsewhere,” the secretary said.

    “Syria lives with consequences of pursuing policies that are outside established international norms — which is largely why the region’s economic development of the past decade has left Syria behind,” she said.

    She also pledged: “Our engagement with Syria will never come at Lebanon?s expense. Nor will it come at the expense of holding Syria accountable for its behavior.”

    The United States has accused Syria of illicitly arming Hezbollah and other militias and showing “flagrant disregard” for the country’s independence. Syria has rejected the charge.

    Hezbollah has stepped up pressure on the UN-backed investigation into the 2005 killing of former Lebanese premier Rafiq Hariri. Hezbollah’s leader said all Lebanese should boycott the probe.

  110. JanH
    I don’t remember them telling Bill to get the Hell out of Dodge, I do remember the Rethugs hating that Hillary was working in the White House, and angry that not only the little woman was busy trying to fix the health care system, but that she was allowed to do anything other than redecorating the White House.

    The Rethugs real claim to fame against the Clintons, was the impeachment.

  111. Mrs. Smith
    November 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    And yet this settlement garbage was a non-issue until obama brought it up. Now Abbas and his terrorist buddies are insisting that Jerusalem is their capital and refusing to come back to the table until building stops completely.

    I just wish the obamas would move in with Abbas and leave the rest of the world alone.

  112. Thanks Shadowfax.

    I think obama now has six weeks to decide? I wonder if he decides on one term only if Hillary will change her mind and step up.

  113. Money being no object of course…

    November 12, 2010

    Obama Stimulus Waste Panel Holds Meeting at Ritz Carlton

    Members of a key panel created by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, better known as the stimulus bill, have scheduled a meeting on November 22 to consider ways to prevent “fraud, waste, and abuse of Recovery Act funds.” The meeting will be held at the super-luxe Ritz Carlton Hotel in Phoenix, Arizona.

    The group is the Recovery Independent Advisory Panel, a sub-committee of the larger Recovery Accountability and Transparency board (sometimes known as the RAT board). The stimulus bill set up the Recovery Independent Advisory Panel, or RIAP, to make recommendations to identify and prevent waste of the bill’s $814 billion in stimulus spending.

  114. Once upon a time you had the slogan: Schlitz–the beer that made Milwaukee famous. Whereas now you arrogance and incompetence the ritual that made Obama famous–and caused America to fail–in Iran, in Moscow, and now in Seoul. Krauthammer nails his ass to the wall, as well he should. And the diagnosis? Obama believes he can reinvent the world, but the world refuses to be re-invented. So much for Messiahs.

  115. “So much for Messiahs.”


    Bbbbut I read somewhere today that the youth want him to go back to his pie in the sky hopey feely visions.

  116. JanH
    November 12th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Every action by Obama is a directive from his partners standing in the shadows as much as are his word for word telepromted speeches. They are determined to break America (and the Middle Class) hoping to neutralize our strength as negotiators bringing Peace to the ME. I can tell you right now- they won’t get away with it for much longer.

  117. I wish Admin would chime in with thoughts but its what we’ve been hearing for a while, Obama may not want to rock and roll in 2012. Michelle is bored to tears anyway and as we all know he is a lazy man, i really think they are setting this up so he can say, i’m going to spend the next 2 years doing it my way and be damned with the consequencess, i dont think he has the stamina for another 4.

    As they say hang around long enough and sooner or later someone is going to notice the rotting smell.

    I don’t think the Wapo would print this without some sort of inkling and with those dodgy statements of Axelrod, and him moving back to Chicago, Rahm buggering off, i just think they came to 4 years of intense socialist changes and damn the midterms. Something is up here.

  118. I agree, Moon… something IS UP!

    November 12th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    I don’t think they did this to Bill Clinton after the midterms. Does anyone remember?

    yes, Jan. I remember. I’m not going into every detail just a quickly written summary…

    Republicans (Bob Dole, Trent Lott and Newt Gingrich) tricked Bill Clinton into signing the NAFTA Trade Agreement (Hillary was against it) just before the mid-terms when the Dems held a majority saying they/Republicans would work with him on other issues after the election …. They then double crossed him after the mid-terms when they held a congressional majority and began releasing endless smear stories (Whitewater, Vince Foster, Gingrich shuts down congress) about him and Hillary in an attack on their credibility that eventually led to his actual Impeachment. Bill fought back gaining strength by turning the dem party towards the center…until he eventually broke back the Republicans. During the Impeachment the Senate was convinced Impeachment and removal from office for a BJ never constituted the remedy the Founding Fathers intended. As it was a moral issue never rising to the standard intended as punishment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by a sitting president. The Republican HAD to settle for a crumb by sanctioning him (for lying about his relations with ML ) and barring him from practicing Law for 7 yrs. ( I think in the interim he has been reinstated by the Bar Assn..)

    Never think for a minute the Republicans are the good guys. Some of the new ones elected after the mid-terms surely may have idealistic notions until they become as unconscionable as the old guard slowly dying off…And as we can attest to, today’s Democrats, with the exception of Hillarycrats, are no better-

  119. Moon

    i’m going to spend the next 2 years doing it my way and be damned with the consequencess, i dont think he has the stamina for another 4.

    I agree and I think that is also why he didn’t want Nasty to ‘go away’…he wants to blame her and Reid for not pulling off policies that would unite the Dems behind him, and make him look successful to the voters.

    He did say, he would feel comfortable being a one term president if he could pass the agenda he wanted. He didn’t think the American public was intelligent enough to see just any old crappy bill that was passed would be good enough, or that our country being in a $hit load of debt would matter.

    He just wanted the title, perks and worship of the people, and now that he is seeing that there is nothing he can do to get that HOPE and Change love back, he is going to become more depressed and more ineffectual. There’s nowhere to go, but DOWN.

  120. Moon

    i’m going to spend the next 2 years doing it my way and be damned with the consequencess, i dont think he has the stamina for another 4.

    I don’t believe Obama has the wherewithall to change things. All we are going to get from him over the next two years is more promises couched in doubletalk, blaiming everyone around him for his failures and never taking responsibility for failing to live up to his stated expectations before the election.

    All we are doing is wasting valuable time by allowing him to sit in the Oval Office taking up valuable space.

    H must be removed…

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