Obama Drives Ds Deep Down The Ditch – The Barack Obama Press Conference

“Take the keys away from him… he’s a boob” cried the country. “What idiot gave him the keys in the first place?” we said.

You should never have given him the keys. Now look at what he’s gone ahead and done. The car is deeper in the ditch! We’ll never get it out now. Oh my! “We’re gonna have to get someone who knows what she’s doing.”

“Ooh, look! Look! Look! What is he doing now? What’s he doing now? He’s gonna muck things up worse! Stop him! Stop him!”

“Too late, too late.” “Now he’s gonna bore us with a bunch of words and excuses.” “Darn”

“I heard he’s taking a trip. Gonna cost $200,000,000 a day!” “No way?” “Way.”

“Are you kidding me? We barely got money to keep things from falling apart and he’s going to bore other countries with our money? Is he nuts?”

“Well we should never have given him the keys in the first place… he’s a boob.”

“What do you think he is going to say?” “Dunno, something stupid most likely.” “He’ll make excuses. Lot’s of them Harvard words. Maybe he’ll call the police stupid or something. Maybe he’ll call us stupid.”

“Maybe he’ll call us “bitter”.” “That’s what he thinks of all of us anyway.” “Well, if you can’t go on $200,000,000 a day vacations you got a reason to be “bitter”. “Hey, that’s funny.”

“Well, wadda ya think he’s gonna say?” “Dunno, something stupid. No doubt something stupid.”

[We’ll update after the Barack Obama Press conference full of flowery words, excuses, fake humility, and fake concern.]

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Obama was in a deeply delusional state at his press conference today. As he kept reminding himself he is the president. Obama relived the glory days in Iowa where he campaigned two years ago. This was as he said he did not want to “re-litigate” the last two years. But those glory days are long gone – people know who he is now.

The American people get it, they know Obama is a delusional boob. Barack Obama does not get it. He still thinks “to know me is to love me”. If he let’s that delusion go, it’s back to the days when mommy dumped him on grandpapa and racist grandma. If he let’s that delusion go, it’s back to the days when Harvard educated daddy dumped him after talking to him for 10 minutes. If he let’s that delusion go he’ll have to look in the mirror and say “I flim-flammed myself.”

It’s a short walk from that mirror to the medicine chest.

Obama thinks Republicans are stupid. He said he wanted “specifics” from Republicans about what they wanted and then he would talk to them about it. But Republicans are not going to be so stupid as to get stuck in a minutia negotiation then another minutia negotiation. Smart Republicans will tell Obama “shove it” – with more polite words.

Obama at the press conference made about as much sense as the victory speech by Governor Moonbeam in California last night. Obama began by saying he has been “listening” to the American people. He said the American people “want to know there tax dollars are spent wisely” just as he is about to fly off with 40 planes to waste twohundredmilliondollarsadayfortwoweeks.

Obama said Americans want to see Washington “business to be done openly” even as it was back room slimy deals with Big PhaRma and Big Insurance that forced through his health scam. Yes, he’s got the keys but the American people took the keys and gave the Republicans the wallet with the credit cards and the gasoline card.

Obama said Americans did not want “bumper sticker slogans” as he talked about slurpees and cars in ditches and Hope and Change. Oh and “I’m the president” and “I’m not naive.”

“You don’t seem to be second guessing or reflecting – should voters believe you don’t get it?” “um… I’m the president.” Yeah, unfortunately that is true but you still could not get your close mob banker buddy the job he wanted.

There’s no Hope and there will be no Change if Obama gets his way.

“I think we would be misreading the results of this election if we thought Americans want us to re-litigate some of the issues that we spent the past two years litigating.”

Buddy are you delusional. The past two years, the past four years are about to be re-litigated with subpoenas until we find out what happened. It’s what happens when a car gets driven into the ditch and the driver dies – an autopsy is held. Now Obama can hear the buzz saw hovering about his head.

Last night Republicans won more than 23 legislative chambers. Republicans govern in the super important presidential election states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Russ Feingold lost his senate seat and Marco Rubio looms large over the American future. And then there is the historic bloodbath in the House of Representatives.

* * * * * *

Last night the postmortems began. The numbers are grim for delusional Obama and his Dimocrats of Doom:

“Republicans made big gains in state legislatures tonight, capturing full control of both legislative chambers — crucial to partisan redistricting — in six states.

Republicans took over control of both houses in Indiana, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Alabama, Michigan and Wisconsin. The GOP is also poised in win gubernatorial elections in a number of those states, solidifying their control over the redistricting process.

The GOP took control of 16 chambers tonight in all; Democrats flipped none.”

Michael Tomasky, who used to have a functioning brain before he began to huff the Hopium, cried for “Change!”:

“There’s a case to be made, of course, for dumping the whole lot of them, up to and including Axelrod. Yes, this was going to be bad in any case with 9.6. unemployment. But it didn’t have to be this bad.

Read this quote:

They just had so much faith in the president’s ability to navigate all this and that no matter what the right threw at him, the president would have this force field of trust that would protect him,” a House strategist said. “On the Hill, there’s this sense that there are three [political] parties, the president, Democrats in Congress and Republicans in Congress.”

Well, if that quote is true, and it rings true to me, these folks were pretty spectacularly bad at their jobs. I do not mean here to hold Obama blameless. He obviously, at least a few months ago, had an inflated idea of his own ability to walk these coals. But he can’t fire himself. What he can do is wake up to the fact that he’s being badly served. His future and legacy are already on the line here.

Liberals love post-election recriminations time! But seriously. He really, really has to change course, and I don’t really think he can change course if he’s surrounded by the same people. No one should be safe. He doesn’t need people around him who want to protect his “brand” anymore. He has that, and his brand ain’t in great shape. He needs people who will tell him what’s what and get him a few in the win column.”

Tomasky thinks Obama should hire more Hillary Clinton people “Hire Wolfson”. The problem is Obama not hiring more Clinton people.

The problem is delusion. The problem is thinking Obama knows what to do or what he is doing. Obama is a boob. Obama is a stooge for Big Media and every crackpot and Big Money donor who will throw some change his way.

The Wall Street Journal took inventory last night:

“Amid deep pessimism about the economy, the coalition of voters that gave Democrats control of Congress in 2006 appears to have fractured.

Preliminary exit polls showed that the party lost ground to Republicans in Tuesday’s midterm elections among women, middle-income workers, whites, seniors and independent voters.

Driving the shift: broad anxiety over the economy, as well as skepticism of big government and opposition to signature Democratic Party policy achievements, such as President Barack Obama’s economic-stimulus package and the health-care overhaul.”

Dump Obama or go deeper into the ditch.

Obama Dimocrats spewed sexism and misogyny in 2008 and 2010 and now the women are aware of the fratboy tactics. The FDR/Hillary Clinton coalition walked away:

“The shift appears to be even larger among white women. The parties were evenly divided four years ago among white women, but on Tuesday a decisive majority of that group went for the GOP.

Among seniors, the two parties were at parity in 2006; Republicans now hold a large advantage among voters age 65 and older. Equally damaging for the Democrats, seniors—who were heavily courted by Republicans this year with ads attacking Mr. Obama’s health-care overhaul—appear to represent a larger share of the electorate than four years ago.

Democrats also have loosened their hold among middle-income voters. A two-point edge in 2006 among voters with income between $50,000 and $75,000 a year has turned into a deficit, the preliminary data showed. And a five-point advantage among those with income of $75,000 to $100,000 has turned into a more substantial deficit. Together, those two income groups make up a third of the 2010 electorate, the early data showed.

In addition, in a sign of how Democrats may be losing their foothold with the working class, voters without college degrees who backed the party in 2006 have shifted back to the Republicans this year, the early numbers showed.”

These demographic groups have not made a permanent alliance with the Republicans. But run Obama in 2012 again and the alliance will become allegiance.

Dump Obama now! All the crackpot theories of his “situation comedy” coalition are proven failures. Dump Obama Now!:

“For Mr. Obama, winning re-election may require piecing the Democratic coalition back together. Core Democratic voters who turned out in big numbers in 2008 for Mr. Obama, such as African-Americans and Hispanics, did not appear especially mobilized nationally on Tuesday. Those groups had been heavily courted by the White House to turn out this year.

Exit polls in 2008 showed intense voter optimism about Mr. Obama’s ability to govern. Tuesday showed how quickly the voters have changed their minds.

A narrow majority said the president’s policies would hurt the country, according to the preliminary data. A plurality said they voted in opposition to him.”

Dump Obama Now or get further into the ditch!

Obama is delusional and madhouse politics are the result.

Dump Obama now or get further into the ditch!

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353 thoughts on “Obama Drives Ds Deep Down The Ditch – The Barack Obama Press Conference

  1. The body language is all worng, its disengaged, he’s looking down more than anything and completely ignoring the cameras today, he cant look at the cameras.

  2. “listen to people”?

    “no one party dictates what to do”

    is this a$$hole for real? December 24th 2009… they did not give a damn what the American people were saying, he called us “enemies”, “racists”, “uneducated”

  3. oh my word!!

    200 million per day? Is this real?????

    LOL… “bumper sticker slogans”

    November 2012…cannot come fast enough…. if Waffles lips are moving, HE IS LYING!!

  4. lol, this from the “I won” guy.

    Notice he will not look at the cameras, thats a big tell that he’s disengaged.

  5. admin, I can tell you as a small business owner, there is nothing the man can say that I trust enough to expand my business, and I am not the only one. I speak with small and medium sized businesses, and they do not trust this man, not one bit.

  6. He’s a total muppet! He’s back on the campaign trail! He refuses to acknowledge losing and is tone deaf.

    Biggest house turn-over in 70 years, Old grey goose Pelosi was just dumped overboard into San Fran Bay and he’s STILL blabbing about his mandate. He’s president of Obamaland. He still think he’s above it all.

  7. what the fuck has new industrial energy policy got to do with last night, he’s rambling off into lalaland.

    Ouch question from hell, she just whalloped him, “Do you still not get it” baseball between the eyes.

  8. I cannot believe it, he still thinks its about him, he still thinks its a communication problem… what is wrong with this “man”?
    and is it just me, I hate being called “folks”!

  9. He’s delusional.

    Second question: “you don’t seem to be second guessing or reflecting – should voters believe you don’t get it?”

    That’s it exactly. He’s delusional and does not get it. 40 planes, $200,000,000.

    And he continues with the blather. He is delusional!

    Big mistake to hold this press conference Barack.

  10. Does this feel to you like he is soooooooo out of his depth, he’s crumbling on live tv. Dems be afraid if this guy leads you into 2012.

  11. Did Obama really just say that election result was about voters failing 2 understand how much progress he’d made.

    This is a clusterfuck of a presser, if this was meant to sooth Dems, its having the opposite effect.

  12. You can see the sycophants from Big Media think to themselves “this guy is nuts… let’s get him… we’ll be famous… or should we still love and worship?”

  13. He said it Again, he thinks people mistakenly believe his policies were about promoting an agenda rather than fixing it

  14. Tim, yeah, its all me, me,me. He has learned absolutely nothing from last night, NOTHING.

    The next 2 years are going to go up in flames very quick.

  15. Good to get the replay by text instead of tossing shoes at my computer.

    One photo I need to see: – how angry he is and did his hair all fall out yet?

  16. for me, the DeathCare bill was the deal breaker for ever again voting for another demonrat. This bill is a job killer, it is structurally building in a high umemployment rate for years and years.

    Puke-O-si said they didn’t care how they passed it, they would ramp it through… another layer of beaurcratic crap and then forcing people to buy a product they may not want!

  17. “Most folks” are just stupid and don’t understand how brilliant he is – that’s what he’s really saying.

    Another “president” comes from his lips.

  18. Mike Emanuel of Fox asks about Obama’s health scam law and whether he thinks it is in danger. Obama says the American people don’t want to “re-litigate” what happened in the last two years.

    He is so delusional the guys in the white coats and butterfly nets should come get him.

  19. “MISREADING THE ELECTION” with reference to DeathCare legislation.

    NO! People want this nonsense repealed!! They want a more effective and efficient system.

    OMG! This man is nuts, he is seriosuly have NO understanding of what just happened!! I cannot listen to this crap anymore.

  20. Admin

    He’s delusional.

    Second question: “you don’t seem to be second guessing or reflecting – should voters believe you don’t get it?”

    That’s it exactly. He’s delusional and does not get it. 40 planes, $200,000,000.

    And he continues with the blather. He is delusional!

    Big mistake to hold this press conference Barack.
    ———

    He’s cooking his own goose, he will not swing to the middle like Bill did, so he had better quit while he is ahead instead of getting tossed out.

  21. He’s certifiable, he looks like he’s gonna break down crying.

    He really cannot arsed to be there and he’s been forced to be there, its obvious.

  22. Someone please shut him up. The flood of words is killing us.

    Obama continues to defend the health scam. He wants to talk “specifics”. He thinks the Republicans are stupid and he can pull his supposed “Jedi mind tricks” on them.

  23. I’m going to wait for admin’s summary of the rest of this, I cannot listen to this crap anymore.

    My premiums for my small biz went up over 41%. I will not be able to hire any people for the winter season. The man has no idea how much this crappy leglislation is hurting American companies competitiveness.

  24. Next question is about what he will do now that the Republicans control the pursestrings and he won’t get another dime for his wasteful, mismanaged, uncoordinated, ineffective spending sprees. (ok, the adjectives come from us not the question 🙂 )

    Obama begins a list of things that he will not cut back on. He says “education” but we’re sure he means vacations.

  25. 2012, nah, he doesnt want it, he’s going to cut and run, he looks like he’s lost the will to live, the adoration is gone and he cannot function without it.

  26. frankly I think its good the dimocrats kept the Senate, they control most of the fed govt. The repubs hold supeno and purse strings through the House, but dimocrats hold the 2 of 3 levers of fed govt… cannot blame the repubs, people have caught on.

  27. This bunch of reporters are hostile, i think they seem the chink in the armour now and he’s been severely weakened.

  28. Obama begins a list of things that he will not cut back on. He says “education” but we’re sure he means vacations.

    😆

  29. he’s STILL blabbing about his mandate. He’s president of Obamaland. He still think he’s above it all…..3rd time…. “I’m the president”, “as the president”, “when I got elected”

    Me, me, me….
    **********
    I think that my well worn explanation of Obama’s behavior is still valid…He is a Socialized Sociopath. Sociopath is no longer considered a PC term by the American mental health elites but it is still the best description for Obama. That is also where the Big Money and Political elites screwed up, Obama was/is the perfect stooge as President except that he is also a sociopath and that behavior really pisses people off.

  30. “what you call investments they call wasteful spending” – even NBC is getting tired of this delusional boob.

    Obama ignores this cri de coeur from Obama loving NBC and proceeds to spew more words which betray how delusional he is.

  31. I still cannot get over the 200 million per day, and thats 3 days in India, what about the bill for the tour of the other countries?

    I am just shocked at the price tag. I don’t ever remember Clinton or Bush’s trips costing this much.

  32. Peter Baker reminds the president of his 2008/2009 posture: “Elections have consequences.” Let’s watch this.

  33. moononpluto
    November 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    This bunch of reporters are hostile, i think they seem the chink in the armour now and he’s been severely weakened.

    ———
    Now I have to watch the replay video.

    Reporters see blood in the water………finally!

    The sharks enter the area while Barry circles the drain…

  34. Next question: You said two years ago “Elections Have Consequences”.

    Obama prattles on about his energy bill from last year that did not pass and how they need to pass an energy bill. Now, its electric cars. “restart our nuclear industry”. Fuel efficiency standards. The list goes on – he is delusional.

  35. Ok he’s hit the boredom wall, he’s sighing and getting antsy. This is going to get ugly in a minute, he may just flounce off.

  36. makes me wonder if Scott Brown had not won at the beginning of the year, just how much more nonsense would have been ramped through.

  37. “Feels Bad” that just betrayed him completely, he cannot accept losing, this is going to devestate him. The look on his face and then the cheap laugh just said “I’m done”

  38. Jake Tapper, questions on policy and personal. On Bush tax cuts what will you do. President Bush called his defeat a “thumpin” – when you call all the Dimocrats who lost – what does it feel like?

    “Feels bad” says Obama.

    This is something he can relate to because it is about him. How he feels, how he thinks… it’s about him.

  39. What the fuck is he on, his recall seems bad, he has problems sometimes formulating.

    He’s repeating stuff, this really looks ugly for him.

    I think he thinks he was going to win forever, we said this before, when he has a loss, he wont accept it but will lash out.

  40. He’s loosing it. His response is the typical narcissist disbelief. How many times has he reminded us (really reminding himself) that he is the PRESIDENT, by God!!??

    I am the president. I AM the president. Hey, I’m the President of the Fecking United States! I have the plane and everything! You guys forget that I AM the president! I still am! I am! I am beloved! Stop it! I am THE PRESIDENT!

  41. Pelosi, known as much for her hardball tactics as she was for her tailored suits, beamed with pride as she stood before Congress to acknowledge the applause and her position as the highest-ranking woman in American politics.

    Nearly four years later, there is little for Pelosi to smile about. For months, Republicans have spoken her name as if it were a curse word, while some Democrats asked her to steer clear of their campaigns.

    A historic Republican landslide Tuesday now means Pelosi will soon be stripped of the power that has defined her historic tenure.

    abc

  42. WASHINGTON (AP) – Obama laments defeat of many fellow Democrats, asking ‘Could I have done something more?’

    Where do I start?

  43. Next question Laura Meckler – you said you didn’t do enough to change Washington, do you feel bad about all the deals you made to get the health scam through? Also a question touching on how much administrative authority he will use to push through what he wants done – the example was the EPA.

    He does not regret the deals because the health scam was so wonderful and appears to say that administrative ways will be found to get things through.

  44. Ed Henry on the car in the ditch. Voters rejected the message. Voters think your policies put the car in reverse. Don’t you have to change? And you could not pass repeal of don’t ask don’t tell, is it time to tell the truth that you can’t get that done?

  45. There we go again “as commander in chief” its psychological, he has to keep telling himself he is the boss.

    Its a real freudian slip that he knows he should not be there but has to keep telling himself he’s the boss.

  46. Obama asks “How do we go forward?” Talks about the ditch. Reporter asks if he thinks he has to go on and he says yes. “It will not be easy” says the boob. “These issues are hard.” Paging W.

  47. We may be in the ditch Obama but you didnt need to fill the ditch with gasoline and toss a match. Did you?

  48. Obama doubles-down on the Mother of All Metaphors. This is starting to make Gore’s “lockbox” look like a throwaway line.

  49. He’s lecturing those who want to hold him accountable, rather than admitting he needs to be accountable.

    He wants to make sure we all understand that he is IN CHARGE, yet strangely, nothing is actually his responsibility.

  50. This presser is a psychiatrists dissertation. You could write a whole thesis on the issues this man has from this.

  51. Next question “Will you have Boehner over for a slurpee?” Obama says he likes slurpees “a slurpee summit”. Obama says he needs to find the right balance for all the rules and regulations to business but to also make it clear that businesses should succeed.

    This “dude” is on a mountaintop. Delusional.

  52. Blames DADT hold-up on Gates. See, not his fault, even though he wants you to know that HE IS THE PRESIDENT!

  53. The bamboozling has started….so how many suckers are still out there!!!!!!

    Knowing some people, I bet they will like this “new guy”

  54. NotYourSweetie at TC says maybe Michelle needs to sew more seals in his underpants as he seems a bit insecure again.

  55. #
    jbstonesfan
    November 3rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    He’s no Bill Clinton.
    ——-
    He’s not even George Bush.

    He is way out of his league, he is a defeated pretender.

  56. People in Iowa loved me…boo hoo hoo, they all loved me, you don’t love me anymore, this is beyond whacko.

  57. Reuters: Wasn’t the election about you being out of touch? What changes will you make to your leadership style?

    Obama talks about the Washington bubble. Obama then talks about how no one thought he was out of touch when he campaigned two years ago in Iowa.

    This is delusion. Obama says that in the White House you may appear removed. There is so much delusion here as he talks about letters he reads and that no one films him reading those letters. Nuts.

  58. #
    moononpluto
    November 3rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Here we go again, its all about him, no one complained of my leadership in IOWA……WTF.
    ——–

    Probably no one complained of his leadership on Mars either…

  59. The creep says Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton – both great communicators – were in the same position as he is in.

    This is his way of pretending he will be reelected. He’s nuts.

  60. Fuck me, He’s Norma Desmond

    “I’m big its the pictures that got smaller”

    Thats how he comes across.

  61. That Iowa comment was a weird hearkening back to the his halycon days of historical campaigning. He longs to go back to that, because this “responsibility” crap really sucks ass.

    Why don’t you reporters ask me about my compelling life story, and stop with this results stuff? It’s making me uncomfortable. C’mom, guys.

  62. Chris Matthews has given up

    chris matthews on obama: “his idea of meeting the american people is reading the new york times”

  63. Just in case there was ANY doubt that he is running in 2012, Gov Pawlenty issues statements on election results in IA and NH.

  64. democrat1
    November 3rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    The majority the Democrats won back in 2006 and increased in 2008 was lost for only one reason — Barrack Obama and his inept, duplicitous and deceitful presidency that reneged on most things that was promised. And it can all be traced back to the deceitful way Obama’s nomination was engineered.

    http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2010/11/pelosi-and-dnc-got-what-they-deserved.html
    ____________________________________________________

    If the author believes Obama tanked the dems because of failure to secure a public option for healthcare, he / she is delusional. EVERYONE wants healthcare reform – for the purpose of lowering costs – NOT for the purpose of paying for others’ healthcare. Pay for your own damned insurance, don’t ask me to do it.

    If people would quit looking for insurance to be a “health care buffet” to cover every sniffle and cut, but rather with high deductibles for truly catastrophic illnesses – say at around the $5,000+ range, including prescription drugs, healthcare would be FAR more affordable.

  65. November 3, 2010

    Hillary Clinton Responds to Democratic Losses — From Papua New Guinea

    By MARK LANDLER

    WASHINGTON – On the day President Obama was picking up the pieces at the White House, his secretary of state, erstwhile political rival and the most prominent Democratic woman in the United States was in…Papua New Guinea.

    On Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton landed in Port Moresby, a little-visited capital 9,047 miles from Washington, where she took part in a mangrove tree-planting ceremony and played down the effect the Republican victory would have on the administration’s foreign policy.

    “What I have always found is that when it comes to foreign policy, it is important to remember that politics stops at the water’s edge,” Mrs. Clinton said at a news conference with Prime Minister Sir Michael Somare.

    If there was a more obscure, far-flung destination for Mrs. Clinton to find herself on this dark day for the administration, it is hard to imagine. She is the first secretary of state to visit Papua New Guinea since Madeleine K. Albright stopped there in 1998, in the wake of a tsunami that took 3,000 lives.
    Even Mrs. Clinton’s visit was a makeup: she canceled her first trip last January to rush home to oversee the Haiti earthquake relief effort. This time, she is on a seven-country, 13-day tour of Asia that has so far taken her to Vietnam, Cambodia, China, and Malaysia, and includes refueling stops in Guam and Pago Pago.

    For someone who usually brushes away political questions by saying she’s not in that game anymore, being in Papua New Guinea had its advantages. At the news conference, she was quizzed about climate change and the “resource curse” facing mineral-rich countries like Papua before Matthew Lee of the Associated Press asked her how the G.O.P. takeover would affect the administration’s agenda.

    Noting that she served six years in the minority in the Senate, Mrs. Clinton said, “You can build coalitions and you can make your case and you can find allies on issues that are in America’s interest and in the furtherance of our security and our values.” She pledged to work with the new members of Congress.

    Before she does that, though, Mrs. Clinton is headed for New Zealand and Australia, keeping plenty of blue water between herself and the carnage in Washington.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/hillary-clinton-responds-to-democratic-losses-from-papua-new-guinea/

  66. Blow me Obama

    The purpose of public option is not paying for others’ health care. That is already being done by medicaid. Public option is the means to lower the costs by providing an alternative to private insurance. When there is an option to buy into medicaid or medicare by paying proportionate cost,the private insurance will be forced to cut their premiums to attract customers away from public option.

  67. Great pictures…click on link and scroll down…

    Images: Welcome To New Zealand Secretary Clinton

    Thursday, 4 November 2010

    Welcome To New Zealand Madam Secretary

    Photo Essay – US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Arrives in Wellington

    By Alastair Thompson

    United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in New Zealand early this on her first visit to the country. She is in Wellington today to sign the “Wellington Declaration” which is expected to herald closer relations between the United States and New Zealand. The last US Secretary of State to visit was Condoleezza Rice in 2008.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1011/S00030/images-welcome-to-new-zealand-secretary-clinton.htm

  68. Hillary Clinton arrives for three day visit
    Updated at 6:49 am today

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has arrived in New Zealand for a three-day visit, during which she is expected to sign a declaration confirming closer ties between the two countries.

    Mrs Clinton will be formally greeted later today at Parliament before meeting Prime Minister John Key and Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully.

    Business leaders are hoping for progress towards a free trade agreement from the visit.

    Federated Farmers chief executive Conor English hopes the visit could lead to the removal of trade barriers for agricultural exports to the United States. He also expects talks about a free trade agreement to move forward.

    New Zealand United States Council executive director Stephen Jacobi wants to see both countries operating as if they were allies.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/61097/hillary-clinton-arrives-for-three-day-visit

  69. 03.11.10

    Netanyahu says he will meet Clinton during U.S. visit

    PM will arrive in New Orleans on Sunday to address a conference of the U.S. Jewish community, where Joe Biden will also speak.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday he would meet Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during a U.S. visit next week in addition to previously announced talks with Vice President Joe Biden.

    In a speech to parliament, Netanyahu again voiced strong criticism of the Palestinian Authority, which has suspended peace talks over his refusal to resume a partial freeze of construction in Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

    Netanyahu says he will meet Clinton during U.S. visit
    PM will arrive in New Orleans on Sunday to address a conference of the U.S. Jewish community, where Joe Biden will also speak.

    “The truth is, there is great readiness in Israel for a real peace process,” he said. “The truth is, we have not found a corresponding readiness within the Palestinian Authority.”

    Netanyahu has resisted U.S., Palestinian and international calls to impose a new building moratorium in settlements after a 10-month freeze expired in late September, some three weeks after the U.S.-brokered negotiations began.

    Palestinian officials have accused Netanyahu of destroying prospects for peace by allowing settlement building to continue on land that Palestinians want for a future state.

    Netanyahu arrives in New Orleans on Sunday to speak at a conference of U.S. Jewish leaders that Biden also will address. President Barack Obama will be visiting Asia during Netanyahu’s U.S. trip, which also includes a four-day stay in New York.

    “I will, of course, meet with the senior leaders of the United States, with Vice President Biden and subsequently with Hillary Clinton,” Netanyahu told parliament.

    He gave no date or venue for the meeting with Clinton, but Israeli officials said it was likely to take place in New York.

    “I greatly appreciate the efforts of the Obama administration — the president and his people — to find a way to advance the peace process,” Netanyahu said in his speech,
    giving no sign of bending in the settlement impasse.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-says-he-will-meet-clinton-during-u-s-visit-1.322733

  70. “#
    moononpluto
    November 3rd, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Fuck me, He’s Norma Desmond

    “I’m big its the pictures that got smaller”

    Thats how he comes across.”

    +++++++++++++++++

    WATCHIT! Moon! LOL I resent that!

  71. I also heard today that Freddie Mac has requested another $100,000,000 bailout.

    Now, think about that. That is HUGE.

    But compare THAT – $100,000,000 to BAIL OUT THE U.S. Housing Market and the cost of The Delusional President’s Thanksgiving Holiday to India.

    This man is out of his mind.

  72. JanH
    Lovely pics of Hillary…I love her in those glasses….my biggest fear now is that she’ll be lost forever at becoming our President. She does appear to be having fun while she’s working. Sounds like her comment about the bloodbath is exactly like her…forever optimistic and never quitting! If we only had her for Potus instead of this psycho who belongs in the State hospital in the little town that I work in. LOL!

  73. I didn’t watch any TV yesterday, and got everything from the internet with regards to the election. I just got done watching a clip from Chris Matthews, and his crew of pretentious assholes, and it helped reinforce why I dislike them so much. Chris was actually more tame than the other geeks he had in the studio with him. Maddow, and Olberman disgust me. They are two vicious, self-absorbed, demons who are a good fit with many who claim to be progressives. The other white guy, who’s name I can’t recall, was also a prick.

    Oh yeah, it was also nice how they included one minority on their panel. They must show how inclusive they are.

  74. Well by the sound of these comments on the fraud’s speech, I’m glad I was at the health club swimming. I’m just going to get all healthy…you know MO is requiring all true Americans to lose weight and exercise…so I thought I might ought to do what our First Lady is requesting…what do you think??? Of coarse I don’t know if Argula grows here in East Texas…do you?

  75. The article has been updated. This is the key sentence:

    These demographic groups have not made a permanent alliance with the Republicans. But run Obama in 2012 again and the alliance will become allegiance.

  76. It was pretty much that “fake, astro-turfed, fringe, not-really-grassroots” movement that kicked the Dems’ asses last night, and is transforming their party to their liking.

    And if liberals don’t wake up and get some populist chops at the grassroots level real soon, instead of functioning as handmaidens and footsoldiers for one of the two widely-despised political machines, it’s going to be worse in 2012. Yeah, Reid won against a fruitcake, but he won ugly, with the arm-twisting power of the political machine on full display. That’s not the kind of thing you want out in the open, even if it did GOTV for him.

    The shift in the psychology of the electorate has moved away from R vs. D, and toward Us vs. Them. And liberals, with a few exceptions, seem to be hellbent on allying themselves with their preferred less-evil “Them”, mostly out of fear. They are fighting the battles of 1994, and missing the clear-as-day fact that this is NOT the electorate of 1994.

    The left is fast on its way to being viewed as beholden to and a toady of “The Man”, and being on the side of The Man is poison in an age of growing populism. And not liking the ideology of a populist uprising does not make them not populists. Oh yes hell they are.
    I could be wrong, of course. But I’ve pretty much nailed the truth of what was happening with all this teaparty crap from the beginning, and where it would lead. It’s been playing out exactly as I warned. Sucks to be right, sometimes.

  77. confloyd
    November 3rd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
    =========================

    I guess you’re going to have to make do with hay.

  78. I really hope that the dims renege on their 7 week offer to obama to make a decision to run again. After this morning’s debacle, I hope they just tell him his days are numbered and don’t let the door hit him on the way out.

  79. admin
    November 3rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    ======================

    I think that is the truth. I am headed in that direction right now. I see nothing about the Democratic party that makes me feel good about it. It’s not what I want, and I am not what they want.

    Regardless of what I just read in the comments about the Tea Party, I have so much more respect for these grassroots Tea Party people than anyone else on the political scene right now. They are the only group of people who are serious about getting a handle on spending, and on our debt. To all others, it’s lip service. I don’t consider that to be a radical idea at all, yet they are accused of being radicals. Since when has sanity and fiscal responsibility become radical? Ah… I guess to the Republican and Democrat parties who spend, spend, spend, and who don’t seem to know what fiscal responsibility is, fiscal responsibility IS a radical idea. They are bass ackwards.

  80. Shadowfax
    November 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    Obama begins a list of things that he will not cut back on. He says “education” but we’re sure he means vacations.

    *************

    Too funny

  81. saw this at gateway pundit:

    “President Obama Says He Won’t Allow Republicans to Repeal Obamacare (Video)”

    Well then, Mr. Waffles, we just have to damn well make sure you are thoroughly kicked out of OUR White House in November 2012. YOU don’t get to foist some nonsense on us THAT WE DO NOT WANT! This ain’t China or North Korea!!

    I hope the repubs with House control don’t allow any of the 169 agencies to be funded, not one cent! and I hope of the 35+ repub governorships they don’t subject their contituents to this govt run “healthcare” and use their power to block the fed at every level. I just found out that the repubs have capture 37 governorhips, with 4 still undecided. I am stunned.

    One of my collegues actually bought a clock that counts down to that 2012 election day, this was another Hillary dem who campaigned, voted, donated to ALL repubs this election season. He and his family do not ever see themselves voting for another demonRat again.

  82. OMG! Look what just blew in on Fox….Trent Lott! They dug this asshole septic tank. Oh God! They things I hear about Trent Lott is not good…which I won’t speak of the blog that discusses his problems. These rethugs are Rino’s, just as bad as Bambi…we need those “young guns”.

  83. confloyd, the establishment GOP is just as terrified of these teapartiers and the Dims are. All populist uprisings, whether right or left, are a threat to the status quo, and to the carefully constructed deal-making that keeps the elitists and their donors all fat and happy.

    The push is on within the old guard to co-opt and minimize and control them. Watch.

  84. But the public option is a government pay-in program, not free insurance, right? And the cost-savings come from preventing catastrophic illnesses from swamping the pool?

    But yeah, the public option is not the reason the Dems got sunk. Still, I think that paine piece is right on the money. The party that actually believed Obama was some kind of lasting gamechanger — despite Rev. Wright, despite Bill Ayers, despite bitter clinging, despite typical white granny, despite “I’m not proud of my country” — was just plain alien moonbat crazy. Howard Dean and Jimmy Carter playing the race card like they thought it was going to work — they’re alien pod people who totally don’t get America.

    And to think, they could have had the White House for 16 years.

  85. H4T, I believe that by what Rove was doing leading up to the election….they are scared and should be because the people are on to all the corruption on both sides…I guess some will have to go to jail…I hope so!

  86. Canaan – Yes about the public option. And yes also that, aside from that, there were plenty of issues where Ø went awry, like wild spending. And yes also that the Tom in Paine piece is spot-on in its thorough analysis of the Ø election engineering. Its description of Pelosi’s specific role had not been entirely clear to me before reading that piece, but it completely belies the rumored Pelosi gripe that “I don’t know how that fucking idiot got elected”. She knows better than most people how this sociopath got elected, because it was in large part her doing. The rumor that she is willing to help take down this delusional “fucking idiot”, though, may be true.

  87. nomobama
    November 3rd, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    admin
    November 3rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    ======================

    I think that is the truth. I am headed in that direction right now. I see nothing about the Democratic party that makes me feel good about it. It’s not what I want, and I am not what they want.

    Regardless of what I just read in the comments about the Tea Party, I have so much more respect for these grassroots Tea Party people than anyone else on the political scene right now. They are the only group of people who are serious about getting a handle on spending, and on our debt. To all others, it’s lip service. I don’t consider that to be a radical idea at all, yet they are accused of being radicals. Since when has sanity and fiscal responsibility become radical? Ah… I guess to the Republican and Democrat parties who spend, spend, spend, and who don’t seem to know what fiscal responsibility is, fiscal responsibility IS a radical idea. They are bass ackwards.
    ________________________________________________
    +1000. Voted for GOP first time EVAH yesterday. Even threw Gene Taylor to the curb just to prove a point even though he’s really done a decent job.

    Dem party must be burned to the ground, THEN, just MAYBE, it will have a chance to rebuild into something more resembling a centrist and responsible party.

  88. confloyd
    November 3rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    OMG! Look what just blew in on Fox….Trent Lott! They dug this asshole septic tank. Oh God! They things I hear about Trent Lott is not good…which I won’t speak of the blog that discusses his problems. These rethugs are Rino’s, just as bad as Bambi…we need those “young guns
    _______________________________________________________

    From my state. Always detested that arrogant smug jerk.

  89. im
    November 3rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    saw this at gateway pundit:

    “President Obama Says He Won’t Allow Republicans to Repeal Obamacare (Video)”

    Well then, Mr. Waffles, we just have to damn well make sure you are thoroughly kicked out of OUR White House in November 2012. YOU don’t get to foist some nonsense on us THAT WE DO NOT WANT! This ain’t China or North Korea!!

    I hope the repubs with House control don’t allow any of the 169 agencies to be funded, not one cent! and I hope of the 35+ repub governorships they don’t subject their contituents to this govt run “healthcare” and use their power to block the fed at every level.
    _____________________________________

    HERE! HERE!!

  90. gonzotx

    Obama begins a list of things that he will not cut back on. He says “education” but we’re sure he means vacations.

    ———-
    That was actually Admin’s funny… 😉

  91. My regret is that both Nasty pelousy and Horrible Reid are still there, though diminished in size. These two are the masterminds who made that fucking idiot into POTUS

  92. After the Rethugs won the House, I am betting that they will run a super religious, conservative, old school, Rethug for President in 2012.
    The tea party conservatives won a few races, but the good ol’ boyz will push Mittsss to the front of the line.

    If Hillary doesn’t run in 2012 and it ends up being Barry vs Mitt, just shoot me before the election. I don’t want to live though four years of either of them.

  93. But the public option is a government pay-in program, not free insurance, right? And the cost-savings come from preventing catastrophic illnesses from swamping the pool?
    *********
    The “Public Option” that was dangled in front of the Obots was a sham. As proposed, it would have covered a max of 10 million people and probably much fewer; not enough to affect the price curve. We now now from Daschle that even this sham was never a consideration.

    The “real public” option was based on a proposed immediate enrollment of all comers; potentially 135 million people. The theoretical cost savings was based in the large number on the number of people enrolled and the ability to negotiate cost for services like the VA does. In addition, a large part of the $400+ billion that the insurance industry sucks off of the $2.4 trillion spent on health care each year would have been eliminated.

  94. JanH
    November 3rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    I wonder how those poor…poor…bots are doing today.

    ———–
    Most of them are still scratching their heads, like my coworker commented on the Dems being kicked out of the House, “I just don’t understand why they would vote against their own best interests.”

    I just rolled my eyes and said, “Hey, look at it this way…balance of power is always good. The Dems blew it and when Nancy said, “We need to pass the bill before we see what’s in it, she slit her own throat.”

    She knows how I feel about Hillary and the current pResident…but not to the extent all of you do. 😉

  95. The word has gone out: Marco Rubio must be destroyed. Just like black republicans must be destroyed, or conservative women must be destroyed. Not for his policies, (which one is free to disagree with), but for who he is – a Latino who is not a Democrat, and therefore MUST have his Latino-ness unceremoniously stripped from him. He must not only be opposed as wrong, he must be made illegitimate in his very person.

    This is one of the nastiest, filthiest games the Left plays like clockwork, and it is one that more and more makes me want to hurl my breakfast. Blacks, or Latinos, or women, have just as much right to vary in their political opinions as anyone else. Argue with them if you disagree. But to attack them on the basis of “you are not really a woman/black/latino”, to try to strip from them their culture and identity because they disagree politically, is the lowest of the low. The “Porch Ni*ger” card is one that is as blatant a case of raycism and stereotyping as the worst I’ve ever seen. And I am fucking sick of it.

    You know, it would be much easier to be a liberal if it weren’t for the completely vicious immoral assholes I have to be associated with.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/GregHengler/2010/11/03/msnbc_contributor_marco_rubio_perpetuates_all_of_the_bad_stereotypes_about_cuban_americans

  96. SHV: “…a large part of the $400+ billion that the insurance industry sucks off of the $2.4 trillion spent on health care each year would have been eliminated.”

    Remember Bill’s rock-solid figures: the health insurance industry sucks off not $400 billion but $1 trillion down the toilet each year. The figure is going up now, faster than before, because there is no public option.

  97. Until the video of Obama’s ‘speech comes out, I am hoping someone will answer my two questions:

    1. With Nasty blown off her perch, is Hillary now the most politically powerful woman in the US?

    2. With the Rethugs winning the House, can they do investigations on Barry’s corruption, or do they need to have won the Senate majority to do this?

  98. this just is pissing me off!!!

    all these damn elitists on both sides!!

    “ALASKA: Lisa Murkowski and her campaign staff spent the weekend filing out over 20,000 write-in ballots to hand out to voters BEFORE they go into the voting booth. Murkowski’s brother-in-law, Todd Bench, is the leader of the union that will be in charge of moving voting machines around the state. Republican senate candidate, Joe Miller, is not happy.”

    http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/24319/voter-fraud-in-every-state/

  99. HillaryforTexas
    November 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
    The word has gone out: Marco Rubio must be destroyed. Just like black republicans must be destroyed, or conservative women must be destroyed. Not for his policies, (which one is free to disagree with), but for who he is – a Latino who is not a Democrat, and therefore MUST have his Latino-ness unceremoniously stripped from him. He must not only be opposed as wrong, he must be made illegitimate in his very person.

    This is one of the nastiest, filthiest games the Left plays like clockwork, and it is one that more and more makes me want to hurl my breakfast. Blacks, or Latinos, or women, have just as much right to vary in their political opinions as anyone else. Argue with them if you disagree. But to attack them on the basis of “you are not really a woman/black/latino”, to try to strip from them their culture and identity because they disagree politically, is the lowest of the low. The “Porch Ni*ger” card is one that is as blatant a case of raycism and stereotyping as the worst I’ve ever seen. And I am fucking sick of it.

    You know, it would be much easier to be a liberal if it weren’t for the completely vicious immoral assholes I have to be associated with.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/GregHengler/2010/11/03/msnbc_contributor_marco_rubio_perpetuates_all_of_the_bad_stereotypes_about_cuban_americans

    ___________________________________________

    That’s what leftists do. Looks like after last night they’d have figured out it didn’t work so hot, but they’re an insular and intolerant bunch. Better that they’re out in the open now.

  100. Shadowfox:

    1.Even with the Nasty on her perch, Hillary was and is the most powerful and popular woman politician in the world.

    2. The Rethugs in the house has the power, but the question is will they investigate or make a deal with the boob so that they can win presidency easily with the book running in 2012?

  101. 1. With Nasty blown off her perch, is Hillary now the most politically powerful woman in the US?

    Easy: Of course.

    2. With the Rethugs winning the House, can they do investigations on Barry’s corruption, or do they need to have won the Senate majority to do this?

    I think investigations begin in the House but indictments and convictions are bicameral.

  102. shadow, yes on 1
    and for #2, yes House has all sorts of investigatory powers, and just as important, they hold all the purse strings to everything. frankly, I see Issa going after Waffles pretty hard., and it won’t be nonsense like Clinton’s stuff, this is will all things like the black panther case, etc…things the public has been demanding investigations on .

  103. Bill’s rock-solid figures: the health insurance industry sucks off not $400 billion but $1 trillion down the toilet each year…
    **********
    The 400+ billion is just the overhead and profits associated with the insurance companies; if you look at the health “care” industry as a whole, $1 trillion easily. No negotiation on drug prices by medicare and now written into Obamacare is a huge diversion of tax dollars to the drug companies. Medicare drug costs are 2x the VA costs because the VA is allowed by law to negotiate prices, etc., etc….

  104. Thanks for the answers Big Pinksters.

    If nothing else, Hillary should feel good Karma about one-upping Nasty.

  105. tim, Pelosi is not leaving congress. She just lost the speakership, that’s all. She’s not going anywhere, unfortunately.

  106. HillaryforTexas
    November 3rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    I don’t know? Do you think she will stay? when ginrich and hastert lost they both left congress.

  107. A couple of classic photos and tags on Drudge:

    Photo of Hillary with title:

    A wonderful day to be in Papua New Guinea…

    ——-

    Photo of Barry – with a big wrinkled frown, fighting back tears – title:

    ‘SHELLACKING’…

  108. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today she has “no regrets” one day after a Republican landslide stripped her of the power that defined her historic tenure as the first female Speaker of the House.

    The California Democrat, who won a new two year term in Tuesday’s election, also said she has yet to consider what she will do now.

    “I’ll have a conversation with my caucus, I’ll have a conversation with my family, and pray over it, and decide how to go forward,” she said in an exclusive ABC News interview with “World News” anchor Diane Sawyer. “But today isn’t that day.”

    Drudge

  109. The “real public” option was based on a proposed immediate enrollment of all comers; potentially 135 million people. The theoretical cost savings was based in the large number on the number of people enrolled and the ability to negotiate cost for services like the VA does. In addition, a large part of the $400+ billion that the insurance industry sucks off of the $2.4 trillion spent on health care each year would have been eliminated.

    Pleas explain how this would have helped someone like myself who is uninsured, and does NOT want health insurance at this point in my life. So, the insurance industry won’t get whatever amount of the billions of dollars that would normally go to them, but yet, is it not implied here that I, who am uninsured, would be forced to purchase health insurance, and that money would go to someone other than the insurance industry.

    I am a believer in self-help. I purchase natural healing type items for myself as I see fit, and I also try to keep myself relatively healthy. I don’t smoke, I excercise, and I don’t drink but a few times a year. I don’t do drugs. I don’t want my dollars going to them the administrators of a public health plan. It will be another bloated bureaucracy with much waste. COUNT ON IT. KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF HEALTHCARE. I want my money to be spent on natural healing as needed, and when I choose, not when the government forces me to do so. I would end up spending much more with government interference, than without it.

    Additionally, what’s so great about the VA’s healthcare? Answer: nothing. Also, when I think of the forced purchase of car insurance, and how everyone is forced to purchase it, then why is my damn insurance so freakin high? I don’t have any tickets, and the last accident I had was someone crossing over a turning lane and hitting me practically head on back in 2006. Yet, at my age, one would think that my insurance costs for automobile insurance would go down, but they haven’t. Sorry, but I don’t believe for one minute that a public option will keep insurance costs down. All one needs to do is look at France, which is always the example that supporters for healthcare reform bring up. I’ve read that their system stinks, and that it runs in the red to the tune of billions of dollars.

    I think that I am evaluating this fairly, but if I am not, please let me know what part that I do not understand correctly.

  110. Øbama: The election was not a referendum on his polices, but one on the economy. I’ll take that a little bit further and write that it was his policies that have helped keep the economy in the doldrums. One plus one still equals two, no matter how Øbama wants to spin the “refudiation” of him.

  111. “I just don’t understand why they would vote against their own best interests.”

    ————
    LOL…Shadowfax,

    Delusional is the kindest description I can give to your friend here.

  112. “They loved my leadership in IOWA” wtf!

    You weren’t a leader in Iowa, you were a candidate. You were leading people to the polls, that’s a community organizer.

  113. nomobama: “I think that I am evaluating this fairly, but if I am not, please let me know what part that I do not understand correctly.”

    Well, here’s one thing that you’re not evaluating fairly or understanding correctly:

    “All one needs to do is look at France, which is always the example that supporters for healthcare reform bring up. I’ve read that their system stinks, and that it runs in the red to the tune of billions of dollars.”

    There is a reason why France is taken as an example: Its health care is rated the best in the world, and rightly so, both in terms of results and in terms of simplicity and cost. It doesn’t “stink” no matter what you’ve read about it, and if there is an occasional “red” it’s because the insurer takes no profit, so any rise in costs immediately translates into a red.

    In Hillary’s health plan, there was an individual mandate that would affect you and the many like you that think you don’t need coverage because you lead a healthy life. However, her individual mandate was hitched to an offer of a multitude of plans, including plans that only cover catastrophes, like injuries due to an auto accident like the one you described in 2006. If you were injured, perhaps seriously, in such an accident, or in an accident or fire at home, or as the victim of some criminal activity beyond your control, you would be hospitalized and incur that expense either on your own or at the expense of the government, ie on everyone’s nickel.

    And believe me, I know from experience that hospital costs are astronomical in the US (not so in France, BTW). In 2005, I went to an emergency room on Long Island with a complaint of dizzy spells. I stayed as an outpatient in the ER for a total of 2 1/2 hours, 2 hours of which was spent filling out forms and waiting, and 2 weeks later I got a bill for $2700. That was the price for talking with an intern, taking a pill and lying on a bed for 20 minutes to see if the dizziness was gone. With $2700, I could have paid for a year or two or three of catastrophe insurance.

  114. A lesson for Obama: how ‘reasonable’ Bill Clinton neutered Newt Gingrich

    Let the Republicans run wild and you can win re-election, president is told

    Chris McGreal in Washington guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 3 November 2010

    Out of the jaws of defeat, Barack Obama may just set himself up for re-election in two years if he draws on the lessons of the last Democratic presidency to face a Republican seizure of Congress.

    In 1994, the Republicans took control of both houses of Congress with Newt Gingrich becoming the speaker of the House of Representatives with an agenda to challenge President Bill Clinton’s power.

    Clinton’s presidency looked doomed but within two years he had outmanoeuvred Gingrich with a mix of humility and apparent reasonableness in the face of extreme conservatives.

    The key showdown came over Gingrich’s shut down of the government for nearly four weeks in 1995 and early the following year by failing to pass a budget bill acceptable to Clinton. Republicans thought it would be a popular move because it was portrayed as an assault on rising government spending. Clinton called their bluff and portrayed Gingrich as extreme and unreasonable, and also petty after the House speaker complained about being made to sit at the back of the president’s plane.

    The Republican revolt collapsed. Clinton’s ratings rose and he easily won reelection the next year.

    Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia, said Obama could learn from Clinton’s handling of that crisis.

    “One lesson he can learn from Clinton is that the presidency has inherent advantages over any speaker and he should use those advantages just as Clinton did. To the extent possible he should encourage Republicans to over interpret their mandate. Let them run wild. The more they do that, the better he’s going to look by comparison. Clinton bested Gingrich at every turn. Obama should hope he’s lucky enough to get a government shutdown,” he said.

    Sabato said that there was one crucial element to Clinton’s success in facing down the Republicans.

    “He was very humbled by the election. It came as an enduring psychological blow to him. But then, in appearing reasonable, he was the voice of reason because he was triangulating between those liberal Democrats who didn’t understand that America isn’t fundamentally a liberal country and those wacky conservative Republicans who were overwhelmed by their own ideology,” he said.

    “This is where we’re going to see whether the critics are right. They constantly say Obama’s arrogant. If he’s arrogant he’s going to blow it. If he really does show some humility and admit mistakes he can be as successful as Clinton was.” Chris McGreal

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/03/barack-obama-bill-clinton-gingrich

  115. http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/11/02/gillibrand-praises-hillary-clinton-in-victory-speech/

    * November 2, 2010, 10:20 PM ET
    Gillibrand Praises Hillary Clinton in Victory Speech

    By Michael Howard Saul

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who succeeded Hillary Clinton as New York’s junior senator last year, saluted the secretary of state Tuesday night for inspiring her to enter public service.

    Gillibrand’s hold on the Senate seat was widely viewed as vulnerable months ago, but she succeeded in knocking out a number of potential Democratic opponents. In Tuesday’s election she ran against former Republican Rep. Joe DioGuardi, but his campaign never took off.

    During her victory speech, Gillibrand described Clinton as her “role model and mentor.”

    “It was Secretary Clinton who first inspired me to enter public service, and I am so thankful to her for her extraordinary leadership,” Gillibrand said. “We only have 17% women in Congress, and so we need more women to serve.”

    “I haven’t been in Washington very long, but I can tell you it’s broken,” Gillibrand said Tuesday night. “And the challenges we face have never been greater.”

    Gillibrand also gave a “special thank you” to Gov. David Paterson, who tapped her to replace Clinton in the Senate following a widely panned selection process. Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of former President John F. Kennedy, withdrew from contention immediately before Paterson announced his decision. In the following days, there were a spate of media reports chronicling Paterson’s camp saying critical things about Kennedy.

    Gillibrand won the right to serve the remainder of Clinton’s term for the following two years, but she must run again in 2012 to earn a full six-year term of her own. One potential challenger in the 2012 race is Diana Taylor, the former state’s banking superintendent and Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s longtime companion. Taylor has said she is contemplating a bid.

  116. I don’t know, but I get bad vibes when I see Bloomberg…I’m not from NY, so its just a hunch. What do you all think about him? I like Donald Trump better than Bloomberg.

  117. That’s just awful about the left wanting to take down Rubio, just terrible…this is what is wrong with politics besides the freaking media and the lobbiests.

  118. good to be able to come here and get a recap of the ‘presser’…too bad i had to work and just could not watch it! but you all gave a great flavor of the same old, same old from the narcissist…there is no way he can give an inch because his whole charade is collapsing around him…

    i wish one of the reporters might have asked…

    “do you think your constant partying, golfing, sports, vacations, endless publicity stunts, endless tv appearances, etc…could have made the public think you are not hard at work at resolving the problems of our country…and maybe not up to the job?” and that you are just concerned with what’s in it for you?

    ***********************

    great job hill44 and friends…

    ****************

    btw…i caught that one segment on msnbc with michelle B and after she went off the air and watched those frat boys – matthews, olberman, maddow and i think lawrence o’donnell (worst than matthews) just go on and on like unbelievably immature and mean spirited kids…they should all be so embarrassed by their behavior when they watch it in playback…no professionalism at all…

    and frankly, i sometimes catch a glimpse of a segment of Morning Joe when getting ready for work in the morning and i have never seen such self absorbed and condescending people…you get the feeling they are just talking amongst themselves and have no respect for what little audience they have left…

    Joe Scarborough has jumped the shark…he is in the same category as charlie christ…a man who no longer has any principles and just goes where the wind blows…
    and Mika…what planet is that rude person on? the ilk of MSNBC is what is really delusional…they live in their own cloistered self promoting bubble and insider jokes and chuckles…and promoting each other’s books…no wonder they are sinking to the pits…

    expect matthews to start striking out at O because O no longer serves Matthew’s narrative anymore…biggest laugh i had was listening to Matthews question in disbelief how anyone could attack that nice lady, nancy pelosi…he was so concerned about the sexism being thrown at her…true, i am not kidding

    what a bunch of colossal hypocrites…hypocrites is too kind…delusional doesn’t really capture their essence…sick, nasty people…

    one more thing…i really love the moxy and straight talking coming from Sarah Palin…she cuts to the quick and lets all the chips fall where they may…like her policies or not, that woman marches to her own drummer and convictions…a real breath of fresh air…

    …and agree thankfully Hillary is far, far away from this whole mess…she continues accomplishing good works across the world…and winning the admiration of the world…

  119. Confloyd,

    The way I view Bloomberg is that he is a little dictator with lots of money who gets his jollies with social engineering games. If you don’t play the way he wants you to play, then you don’t play at all. Elitist to the max.

  120. *Been thinking about this for a while….

    http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2010/11/bush-machine-brings-it-on.html
    Bush Machine Brings It On

    By Craig Crawford | November 3, 2010 6:00 PM | Permalink | Comments (14)

    The GOP’s Florida Senate win is very much about Jeb Bush’s 2012 presidential chances. Marco Rubio owes Jeb — who did all he could to jeb.jpgundermine Charlie Crist — more than he owes the tea party. Couple that with George W. Bush’s emerging rehabilitation campaign and you’ve got a scenario for Jeb to rise as the Republican establishment’s only hope to sideline Sarah Palin. President Obama’s “shellacking,” as he described it today, paves the way for another Bush.

  121. Bush Machine Brings It On
    _____________________

    Yesterday, I read Rove is in the process of organizing Jeb’s presidential bid for 2012. I was going to post it here but the bloodbath was more appealing seeing it was Obama’s blood and that of his consorts.

    No one is talking about Finegold. If I understand correctly, he is out on his ear… yes?

  122. Feingold is out, yes, speculation is he will be the stalking horse to provoke a primary challenge in 2012.

  123. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday she’s not ready to decide if she’ll remain in Congress after the Democrats’ drubbing at the polls.

    In her first public interview since Tuesday’s elections returned the House majority to Republicans, the California Democrat told ABC News she’s still mulling her future in Washington.

    “I’ll have a conversation with my caucus, I’ll have a conversation with my family, and pray over it, and decide how to go forward,” Pelosi told ABC’s Diane Sawyer for “World News Tonight.” “But today isn’t that day.”

    Pelosi hinted, however, that the decision could hinge most significantly on the sentiments of fellow Democrats.

    “In our caucus we always do things by consensus,” said the 70-year-old Pelosi. “And when we have that consensus, we’ll have some announcement to make.”

    ………………………………………..

    However i have a feeling, a new job has just opened up. Gavin Newsom is the New Lt Gov of California leaving the San Francisco Mayors office vacant. Wanna bet she goes for it?

  124. Kingsgrove, what you(and Crawford) imply is Bush v. Clinton 2012. That will make the Kooks crack.

    Imagine Jeb Bush (Rubio is out if Bush runs because they are from the same state and that is constitutionally verboten) vs Hillary.

    If the Republicans are smart they will stick with Rubio (who would also have much Tea Party support).

  125. Rubio 2012 is way too early, he would have to start campaigning immediately and i dont think thats a good move, 2016 at earliest.

    2016 Marco Rubio/Paul Ryan, i would watch that and it would be hard to beat. Florida Senator and Wisconsin Congressman. That would be tough for the Democrats, 2 young conservative telegenic good looking young men with brains.

  126. pm 317 yes, i worked it out that about 33,000 dems crossed over to write in murkowski, its the difference between the Gov dem vote and the Sen dem vote.

  127. jeswezey,

    Here’s an example of one of the things that I remember reading about France’s healthcare system. Last year, I read a book written by Howard Storm about his near death experience that he had while visiting France as part of a field trip with some of his art students. He was an American professor, and atheist at the time. He wrote a book entitled My Descent into Death which explained his near death experience, and he was not very complimentary when it came to his treatment in France. Reading his account, and then reading multiple articles about similar types of healthcare systems, and how bad they are viewed by those who live under them, made more of an impression on me, then any opposing viewpoints that stated otherwise.

    I also know the expense of emergency room treatment, but mine was to the tune of $12,000 dollars, and that was for a diagnosis of pneumonia. Granted, my payment turned out to be around $4,000 dollars out of pocket because they realized that I was uninsured at the time. It was nice of them to lower that cost, but when I think of how long I was actually in the examining room, $12,000 dollars seemed pretty absurd. Yes, I had chest x-rays to see if there was any inflammation of my heart since I was having severe chest pains, but they determined that I had lung problems instead. That happened just 2 months prior to the car accident that I was involved in. The thing about the pneumonia was that it occurred just before my move from the northeast to Florida. About 10 days later, I was travelling from NJ to Florida nonstop, and I had a recurrence as soon as I had arrived in Florida. I treated myself, and overcame it on my own. I wasn’t going to be paying thousands of dollars out of pocket again. The car accident did not cost me any money for treatments, but I still don’t feel the same as I used to, and that accident was 4 years ago already.

  128. Jeb Bush has just recently reiterated that he does not want to run for the presidency. I hope that he means it.

  129. http://biggovernment.com/prahe/2010/11/03/hillarys-date-with-destiny/

    Hillary’s date with Destiny.

    “There is,” Shakespeare’s Brutus said to Cassius, “a tide in the affairs of men.”

    Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
    Omitted, all the voyage of their life
    Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
    On such a full sea are we now afloat,
    And we must take the current when it serves,
    Or lose our ventures.

    Such, I suspect, were the musings of Hillary Rodham Clinton last night as she watched the election returns from a safe and distant perch in an East Asian hotel, and her thinking was no doubt in accord with what was going through the mind of William Jefferson Clinton as well.

  130. Mrs. Smith
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
    “Hard to believe, 33,000 people wrote in the name Murkowski (and spelled it correctly)…”

    Just think of how many people could spell “Clinton” in a draft-Hillary movement!

  131. nomobama,
    I have had enough of the Bush’s, but we all do know Jeb’s mama wants him to be Potus. Hillary comes before another freaking Bush. Sooner or later Chelsea will be old enough for a run.

    I do hope these people would not try and destroy the lives of their opponents…I don’t think that what everyday Americans really want…they want a truthful, honest government. I know, its a fairytale.

  132. aaah ……The day after the midterms or as it’s more commonly known: Day 1 of the 2012 Presidential Campaign.

  133. MOP,
    Hopefully Rubio is smart enough to see what has happened to Obama and wait until he has some Washington experience and hopefull the electorate has learned that experience is a MUST.

    A Mittens/Gingrich is downright sickening….we need Hillary first, then I like that Paul Ryan and Rubio. I especially think Ryan has promise.

  134. Lisa Murkowski: n a statement, she said she’s “poised to win and very confident” and that the numbers so far make clear “we made history.”
    “The story of my write-in campaign will be told and retold; it will change the definition of American politics,” she said. “It newly redefines the where-with-all it takes to challenge the system and win. And it re-enforces what we all knew: in Alaska, anything is possible when you have a small group of people who are determined to change the world.”

    Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/11/03/1402983/murkowski-miller-set-for-another.html#ixzz14GnECv2M

    ========================================

    Yeah, it sure did change the definition of America politics. Another sore loser like Charlie Crist, and Joe Lieberman only looking out for themselves. I just wish that it would have been a much different outcome than what it appears to be right now. I don’t know if Joe Miller has a chance here or not, but I hope he pulls it out.

  135. The young promising politicians should wait and gain some experience…just like some of these new QB’s in the NFL, they need to watch, learn and practice before taking over. This should be mandatory for Potus trainee’s.

  136. Anyone doubt Marco Rubio is running for president or vice president in 2012? Anyone doubt there are a lot of people helping Marco Rubio run for president or vice president in 2012?

    Welcome to the real world – Marco Rubio is running:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3979390,00.html

    With victory in the congressional elections less than a day old, Florida Senator Marco Rubio (Rep.) who considers himself a ‘Tea Party’ member, is set to arrive in Israel on Sunday. Rubio’s visit so soon after the election win is a move that strengthens assessments that the congress in its current form will continue where it left off – at least where Israel is concerned.

  137. Mrs. Smith
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
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    That’s so bad! 🙂 If Larry Sinclair had a say in it, I suspect that the Øbama blow-up doll would have had more of an expression on its face like the one immediately to his right in that image that you linked.

  138. I thought this was a telling comment over at the daily beast…maybe the dems that did not “get it” when many of us saw the light during last years primaries…might start opening their eyes now…put the hopium down and smell the coffee…

    ***************

    Blue-eyed blues
    I get it now, I know why America has had it with liberals. I was at what was suppose to be a victory party for a local democratic politician last night… it was a concession speech. MSNBC was on TV half of the room cheered some of the comments by the MSNBC team while others were embarrased. Except when Bachman was on – they all cheered when he called her in a trance, then she dropped the big one…. the tingly feeling comment smacked Matthews and silenced the room. Right then I knew why America looks down on us libs and the night just fell apart from there.

    But that was not the worst of it. As results from the rest of Florida came in, my fellow dems got ugly. The continuous racial remarks about Marco Rubio and Allen West got down right ugly, words I would never utter myself and was shocked that democrats would speak them so openly in public. Then came the results that Lizbeth Benacquisto, a republican state senate candidate had won. She got national press for responding to her opponent’s TV adds about abortion and rape with her own rape expirience. I was shocked with the remarks from a prominent local lesbian who told our little group in quite graphic terms of what she would do to her. That was it – I left the party.

    After the results from last night, the comments of MSNBC, the people I thought were my fellow dems and dreading having to go in to work today and face little miss tea party in my office I was close to calling in sick. But I held my head up and dragged my ass in, I got my coffee and waited for that smug little Palin wannabee to let me have it. Instead she came up to me and put her hand on my shoulder and asked how I was doing. I sat in my office and realized she has treated me with much more respect than I had been treating her but I was just not open to see it.

    I get it, there is a reason why we lost last night, there is a reason why msnbc is getting whooped by fox, if we continue to go down that path we will lose everything and I don’t want to be like the vile people I was with last night or the pompous panel on msnbc. I’m not joining the tea party or anything but we in the democratic party better use last night as a reality check because the rest of America is leaving us behind.

    Flag It|Permalink1:46 pm, Nov 3, 2010

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  139. I can only hope the Board of Elections holds Murkowski’s feet to the fire for 33,000 signature verifications. Miller surely has the right to question their validity.

  140. S
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
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    Wow. Interesting. That’s the same way I felt when I saw those vicious commentators in a video clip earlier today. I remember during the campaign how Sarah Palin and her female supporters were being referred to as the “nasty girls”, like the cliques that can be found in many high schools. It’s hardly the case. Those commentators were the ones behaving as such.

  141. nomobama
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    ============================

    That’s so bad!
    ____________________

    I know! I couldn’t help myself. I was thinking of a way to segway that creepy doll into the conversation.

    I allow myself a few days a year to be “bad”… Just used up the last one. On the bright side, January is just around the corner… 🙂

  142. My exact thoughs, Mrs. Smith. Fraudulently completed absentee ballots can probably be slipped into the mix of legitimate absentee ballots that were returned in good faith. Let’s hope that handwriting analysis people are used to determine their validity.

  143. Nomobama: “…reading multiple articles about similar types of healthcare systems, and how bad they are viewed by those who live under them, made more of an impression on me, then any opposing viewpoints that stated otherwise.”

    You seem to approach your readings with a foregone conclusion that you hope to have confirmed by the article, and when it doesn’t confirm your opinion, well it just doesn’t make an impression on you.

    Even my personal experience of having “lived under” the French system for 30 odd years, being quite content with the service and its results and quite content also with the low cost of the system, seems not to make an impression on you, nor does the evaluation of the World Health Organization, which rates France’s health care the best in the world on all counts, and the United States 37th, just behind Slovakia, nor does the general feeling of the French people about the health care system they are “living under” and that they wouldn’t trade for anything in the world with that of the U.S.

    I get the idea that you are just looking for any ‘proof’ you can find that the government should keeps its hands off the robber baron industry (Hillary’s expression) that is health care in the U.S., and especially not require you to provide for yourself in the case of a serious accident.

    The hospital charged you a ridiculous $4000 for a little time in the examining room. Just imagine what the bill would have been if you were knocked into a coma in your 2006 accident and woke up 2 months later in some city far from home. You’d have to be a very rich man indeed to dole out what it really costs to keep someone on life support for 2 months.

    This is why the individual mandate in Hillary’s plan allowed health freaks like you to assume just accident insurance alone.

    Incidentally, Ø’s 2008 plan did not contain an individual mandate and, if you remember, Ø justified leaving out 15 million people at the time by saying he didn’t want to “force” or “punish” people if they didn’t want insurance. He was pandering to a crowd of mostly young people who are fit and who think they can save money and get through life without having to pay insurance. Were you tempted to go for Ø on the faith of that argument?

  144. confloyd,

    I agree that experience is important up to a point. Real life experiences have to count for something, too. As for Rubio, I voted for him, and now I have two years to get a good feel for the guy. So far, I like what I hear from him for the most part.

  145. Went to see my Rep Dentist today. He was really feeling good. However he says, unless the GOP play their cards right, and get a candidate that will motivate over O they will throw their opportunity away. He said that the Dem threw their opportunity away. Of course I agree with him.

  146. Mrs Smith —

    murky’s brother in law is a union leader and they passed out 20K absentee ballots with Mukry’s name already on it. I posted a link above with the details.

    the AK dems and the good ol establishment repubs plotted to make sure to keep joe miller out.

  147. jeswezey
    November 3rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
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    That’s totally unfair for you to say. I did not have any forgone conclusions about the healthcare debate until I started paying a bit more attention to what was being said. I have a philosophical reason to be against it. I am not a fan of big government, and government is encroaching on what I feel is my liberty. If I had directed the same comment back at you, I’d assume that you would not appreciate it. After all, how do you know MY thought processes?

  148. tim
    November 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    =======================

    Thank you for mentioning this. I knew that I had read that somewhere, but I couldn’t find the article to post here. Having pre-filled out ballots doesn’t seem right, even if a person had the intent of voting for Lisa Murkowski. She set the burden high for herself when she wanted to run as a write in candidate. That burden meant that her supporters would at least have to know how to spell her name correctly.

  149. And jeswezey,

    How the heck am I supposed to know that you have lived under their system for 30 years? Perhaps you have mentioned that before, but the only thing I know about you is that you currently live in France, or one of its neighbors. That’s it.

  150. Admin: Wow! I guess they want these guys with no experience in order to get them to do what they want without question. So sad for these guys…some could really be a great President, but not before his time…like a great wine!

  151. NewMexicoFan
    November 3rd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
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    If you know what’s good for you, you should always agree with your Dentist as he’s working on your teeth! 😆

  152. Poor choice of words, “health freaks”. It has more to do with taking responsibility for my health, and trying to do things right so that I don’t need to visit doctors, or hospitals. I don’t find anything freaky about that.

    I suppose I am a Jesus freak too since I believe in Him.

  153. Well if they did pre-fill ballots then they could have the whole lot thrown out if they prove that its the same person or persons handwriting over and over, the voter must write in the ballot themselves, Miller could reasonably argue that the ballots were tampered with.

  154. Thanks Tim for that information…
    ________________

    What is the accepted legal definition for a write-in ballot? I’ve never heard of printing up your own unregulated ballot for people to just sign… neh…

  155. I am still hoping for Hillary, but I do see that door closing ever so slowly, but we had to get this bonehead in chief under control. The only way to do it was with the republicans and I feel better about them now as the Tea Party is going to keep them somewhat straight…I hope.

    I think we need a real work horse in office to get this economy stuff under control….Bill and his staff worked day and night trying to figure out what to do in the 90’s….Obama delegates everything and then takes credit for it if it turns out to be good. No one is going to work hard enough to help if that is what he is going to do for the exception of Hillary Clinton…but he doesn’t have her in a position where she could help him with the economy and he doesn’t listen anyway.
    Don’t get me wrong Rubio is really nice, and very easy on the eyes.

  156. and the infighting begins

    Democrats find common ground: It’s the White House’s fault

    The bodies aren’t even cold yet in the House, but the Democratic Party has already opened up a bitter debate over who’s to blame.

    The party’s bloodied moderates Wednesday released two years of pent-up anger at a party leadership they viewed as blind to their needs and deaf to the messages of voters who never asked for President Barack Obama’s ambitious first-term agenda.

    Liberals pushed back hard: The problem, they say, was those undisciplined moderates, who won delays, unsightly compromises and a muddled message from a too-accommodating administration.

    Yet a third group of Democratic politicians and operatives blamed not policy but a failed sales job for the party’s woes.

    One thing all sides agree on: The White House blew it.

    “It is clear that Democrats over-interpreted our mandate. Talk of a ‘political realignment’ and a ‘new progressive era’ proved wishful thinking,” the retiring Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh wrote in a New York Times op-ed posted online as the scope of last night’s losses became clear.

    Bayh called the decision to focus on health care in a bad economy “overreach.”

    “We were too deferential to our most zealous supporters,” he wrote.

    Bayh spoke for a wing of the party that had been, before the election, reluctant to criticize Obama’s management of the government, but which on Wednesday spoke loudly.

    “Fundamentally, Democrats lost the middle,” the president of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, Ed Gresser, said Wednesday.

    “The party’s apparent lack of interest in a long-term path away from emergency stimulus toward fiscal balance revived a pre-Clinton reputation for carefree attitudes toward public money.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44673.html#ixzz14H2LUKSV

  157. Rep. Fattah Calls on House to Disavow Clinton Impeachment

    WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ —

    Congressman Chaka Fattah (D-PA) will introduce a Resolution calling on the House of Representatives to disavow the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

    “As we enter a period in which bipartisanship will be a major priority for the Congress, it is vital that we disavow the most highly partisan example of the politics of personal destruction in the recent history of this House,” said Fattah.

    Fattah will introduce the Resolution “disavowing the partisan impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton” on Nov. 15, the day the House reconvenes for its final session of the 111th Congress.

    The Resolution will cite the fact that impeachment articles were taken up and acted upon in December 1998 in the lame duck session of the 105th Congress. Fattah said this establishes the precedent for disavowing those articles in the similar session of the 111th Congress.

    Fattah said, “In the spirit of bipartisan cooperation we must come together, Republicans and Democrats, to undo this blemish and restore the reputation of the House.”

    The Resolution cites the historical record of the impeachment and concludes: “Resolved, That the House disavows the articles of impeachment filed against President William Jefferson Clinton given the irresponsible and inappropriately partisan manner in which the House discharged its constitutional duties.”

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rep-fattah-calls-on-house-to-disavow-clinton-impeachment-106632038.html

  158. You know who was a big loser in this election? George Soros.

    By: Mark Hemingway
    Commentary Staff Writer
    11/03/10

    While Democrats went out of their way to portray the Koch brothers as evil billionaires puppeteering this election, I’d venture they feel pretty good about the outcome. However, after last night I’d venture that that George Soros is one unhappy Hungarian.

    Where the Kochs stood accused of funding some well-known grassroots political groups, Soros has been heavily invested in some pretty shady attempts at electioneering for Democrats. And fortunately, these efforts aren’t going very well.

    The first notable thing is Soros’ funding of the Secretary of State Project — which is basically an attempt to elect Secretaries of State around the country willing to impose Democratic-friendly election laws in an attempt to tilt the playing field in their favor on election day.

    Well, yesterday Republicans won 17 of 26 races for Secretary of State taking six of those offices (Arkansas, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa and Kansas) from Democrats. Republicans now control 25 offices to Democrats 22.

    And then there was Soros’ backing of a measure in California to put control of redistricting back in the hands of the state legislature, a move that would obviously benefit Democrats. It failed, while another measure to give California’s Citizens Redistricting Commission increased authority over redrawing congressional districts:

    California voters approved a ballot measure financed largely by Charles Munger Jr., son of Berkshire Hathaway Inc.’s Charles Munger, that strips California lawmakers of responsibility for drawing the boundaries of congressional districts.

    Proposition 20 was winning 65 percent to 35 percent, with 17 percent of precincts counted, according to the Associated Press. The measure puts the task of reshaping the districts represented by California’s 53 members of the House of Representatives into the hands of a Citizens Redistricting Commission.

    Proposition 27, a competing measure backed by billionaire George Soros, unions and Democratic Party leaders to disband the commission and return districting powers to lawmakers, was losing, 61 percent to 39 percent.

    I’m sure Soros will keep pushing his agenda, but for now, two big ticket items of his have been stymied.

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/you-know-who-was-a-big-loser-in-this-election-george-soros-106640398.html

  159. Is anyone watching Hannity…pretty interesting stuff about Obama’s attitude and how he doesn’t listen to anyone even the Clinton’s. I did not catch the whole thing, so if anyone else heard it fill me in.

  160. Hopefully everyone here has just watched the Sean Hannity segment with Lanny Davis and Pat Caddell.

    Hannity spoke about how Obama had willfully called Bill Clinton a racist. Caddell talked about an enemies list at the White House and how they hate the Clintons. Lanny Davis was eloquent with his silence as Hannity kept asking for a denial or confirmation. Davis was extra eloquent.

    Hannity is learning how to go after Obama and might soon join our Nobama Coalition.

  161. I did not mind Lisa Murkowsky’s stand as a write-in independent candidtae against the wishes of the GOP party. I personally like it when I can have more choices.

    If she wins by fraudlent process then I most certainly would mind.

    In fact, I can even understand Liebermen’s stand even though at the time I was against it. Lieberman is quite free to vote as he wishes without having to pledge allegaince to DEMS all the time.

    And I am proud that Meek did not back out of the FL race.

    And I think Evan Bayh – just by writing that column today – is probably making plans to oppose BO in 2012….good luck to him.

  162. I don’t think Bill looked happy when he campaigned for Giannopolis.

    Nancy saying after she talks to her caucas, they’ll know what to do…that sounds ominous to me…she helped bury all those bodies….I bet she can take him down.

  163. When do these House members go back to DC for the lame duck session? I would like to watch C-span live when they meet….I have not watched them for over 2 yrs now….

  164. Obama sex doll

    Gack, it looks so much like him, specially the skinny wrinkled head.

    The best part is the sealed mouth, no words would be bliss.
    Someone need to send it to MO so she can bash it around on the days she is hatin’ on being the first lady.

  165. Dang, I did it again.
    Wondered how all of you saw things on Hannity before I did, it’s the Tivo, pausing while I do the mom stuff for dinner. 😆

  166. Well that was the first time I ever really listened to Gingrich when he was making sense. He is on Greta and acting fairly normal, I was almost impressed. Obama must of really bombed today, well we all knew he would didn’t we?

    All my republican friends on facebook are dumbfounded I voted for the “R”‘s. I really shocked them I guess, LOL!

  167. I have a few new wishes that I made today…The surprise for me was that Gavin Newsom won for the LT. GOV in CA; I did not even know he was running…I skipped voting as I was out of the country for some weeks and just got back a few days ago…

    So my wish is Brown drops dead or gets very sick soon so Gavin can take over…and that Gavin gives the “middle finger” to BO!

    And a few Senate DEMS do likewise in states with GOP governors….

  168. confloyd
    November 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    ——————-

    I don’t know how I feel about this. Does it put the repubs on the spot or does it allow the hateful media to once again flood the news with an old old issue that should have remained private in the first place?

  169. Jan H, You have a point there! Does this mean that they are going to through it out or sit and fight about all over again…?

    Who is this guy that is bringing it up anyway?

  170. From wikipedia:

    Fattah has lived all his life in the city, attending Overbrook High School, the Community College of Philadelphia and the University of Pennsylvania’s Fels Institute of Government, where he received an MGA in 1986.[2] He is a member of Alpha Phi Alpha, the first intercollegiate Greek-letter fraternity established for African Americans at Cornell University in 1906.[citation needed]

    His parents, David Fattah (born Russell Davenport) and Sister Falaka Fattah (born Frances Brown, also known as Queen Mother Falaka Fattah), are community activists in West Philadelphia, where they are building an “urban Boys’ Town” through their organization, the House of Umoja.[3] He has four brothers.[citation needed]

    Fattah endorsed Barack Obama for President in 2008.

    Fattah is a Prince Hall Freemason, Scottish Rite.

    He has also proclaimed that NASA’s voting contest for naming rights for a module on the International Space Station should be honored by naming one “Colbert” in honor of TV personality Stephen Colbert.[13]

    And finally,[and this one bothers me], Fattah came under fire from the Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police for his repeated calls to grant a new trial to Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of murdering police officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981.

  171. If anyone is watching Greta Donald Trump nailed it about our jobs…they are all in China because of how they manipulate their currency.

    I wonder if this is the build up of a global currency?

  172. This man is a congressman?? No he is dredging up the impeachment stuff…this is a BO supporter trying the discredit Hillary and Bill.

  173. Honestly, I think that he is trying to make the Republicans look bad if they don’t agree to his proposal. I’ve moved beyond that a long time ago. He’s just grandstanding. Besides, Bill got caught with his pants down. It’s not like he didn’t do anything wrong. I just don’t want to hear about it anymore.

  174. nomobama,

    Thanks for the info. I wonder if this is another way to stop Hillary from going for potus in the future.

    Either way, I can see no good out of his bringing this out again. All I can see is that he is going to try to change the news cycle from obama’s mess to this again.

  175. JanH,

    Confloyd may be right, too, if he is attempting to bring Bill Clinton’s name down a few notches again since there has been more positive comments about the Bill and Hillary very recently. You just never know.

  176. Well, at this point I would bet that obama doesn’t even trust his shadow. He’s probably got so many sneak attacks in the works that they will probably all blow up in his face.

    If this is to take the Clintons down a notch, I hope both Hillary and Bill go after him with an electrified pitchfork.

  177. SHV – if I recall correctly – the term was psychopath, then the changed it to sociopath, then they changed it to anti-social. I believe they all retain the original meaning more or less.

    I guess a problem, though, is that there are “lay” uses of the term “anti-social” that may not really refer to a clinical use of the term. People use “anti-social” to refer to people who are simply shy, or introverted, or curmudgeonly. The clinical term is obviously refers to people who are potentially much more violent, have Zero compassion or regrets, etc. So the newest name for the disorder doesn’t really impart important information.

    When it was still called psychopath or sociopath, people knew something very serious and dangerous was being discussed!

  178. Well, I still am hoping people in the dim party plan on taking him down…that is America’s best hope…he is totally dangerous.
    Dana Perino says his presser was so unusual and that he acted weird or something of that order.

    Whatever the Boyz in Chicago are looking for in South Carolina, I hope they find it and remain safe!

  179. nomobama
    November 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    JanH,

    Confloyd may be right, too, if he is attempting to bring Bill Clinton’s name down a few notches again since there has been more positive comments about the Bill and Hillary very recently. You just never know.
    ______________

    Agreed, I’m with Confloyd. The Obama plant is muck raking opening old woulds that healed long ago using his high minded suggestion as a turn-off to the Clintons if Hillary runs…

  180. I’m watching a movie, paying my bills, reading and posting here.. goodnight, confloyd..nomobama and JanH..

  181. democrat1
    November 3rd, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Blow me Obama

    The purpose of public option is not paying for others’ health care. That is already being done by medicaid. Public option is the means to lower the costs by providing an alternative to private insurance. When there is an option to buy into medicaid or medicare by paying proportionate cost,the private insurance will be forced to cut their premiums to attract customers away from public option.

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    Yes. Perhaps someone confused ‘public option’ with ‘single payer.’

  182. November 3rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I also heard today that Freddie Mac has requested another $100,000,000 bailout.

    Now, think about that. That is HUGE.

    But compare THAT – $100,000,000 to BAIL OUT THE U.S. Housing Market and the cost of The Delusional President’s Thanksgiving Holiday to India.

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    How’s that again, Obama?

    $1,000,000 for a big bailout?
    $2,000,000 for a weekend in Mumbai?

  183. nomobama: “Poor choice of words, “health freaks”.

    Sorry you didn’t like that, I meant it as an affectionate jab. I’m kind of a health freak myself, and since I believe in Jesus, we have that in common too. But if someone calls me a “Jesus freak”, I don’t mind at all. In fact, it brings me a smile. Lighten up a bit, man!

    “After all, how do you know MY thought processes?”

    Easy: I read carefully what you say, post after post. I’m an attentive reader.

    My “idea” (and that’s all I said it was) that you approach your readings with an opinion you want the reading to confirm, or else you reject it, is based not only on what you’re saying today about health care, but what you’ve been saying recently about Islam. Everything you can find that says something bad, backward, or extreme about Islam has great weight with you, and anything that says otherwise is discarded as naïve or something. But please let’s not get into Islam again. Health care and big government at least have some relevance to this blog and to what is happening now in the country, so…

    “I am not a fan of big government, and government is encroaching on what I feel is my liberty.”

    There is this widely held belief in America, to the effect that laws, regulations, rules, etc., fetter our dear freedoms by their very nature. “Freedom” means the absence of rules to us.

    I maintain that this is a fundamental mistake. Without rules, you have the law of the jungle, and that is the absolute, inviolable law. Living by that law, the strong thrive to the detriment of the weak.

    In purely physical terms, for example, it would mean that we would take the police off the streets because they are there to enforce laws; let everyone have all the guns they want because that’s one of our constitutional “freedoms”; and then live in what anarchists believe is the ideal world without the State. I don’t need to go into what the result of all this would be…

    In economic terms, it means the Robber Baron era in all its glory: the rich get richer and the masses “go west, young man.” To take a recent example, wily money men gave money to poor, uneducated “sub-prime” targets and then took them for all they were worth. The only problem was, the sub-primes weren’t worth as much as the money men anticipated, so the money men didn’t get all they wanted out of the deal. So to save the too-big-to-fail money men, their government lackey had to steal a lot more money from not-so-poor-nor-so-stupid people and give it to the money men, who are now sitting on it and refuse to lend any more money to get the economy going again, because the interest rates are too low and the chastened money men don’t want to lose any more money. The government was indeed oppressive here, but the only reason for this stupidity was because the government had so long refrained from imposing any rules on their precious money men in the first place.

    The only way to inject some health, or sanity, into this jungle is by government action. Bill Clinton offered one simple step the government could take: guarantee loans for a given purpose that would loosen up the money men’s stash of cash and put it to work for the betterment of the country and world. That’s government action. Sorry, nomobama, but government intervention in the economy can be beneficial.

    And of course, more generally, as can be seen in the clear-the-streets-of-cops example above, you absolutely must recognize that with each freedom we prize comes a corresponding responsibility, and that responsibility translates into rules. You are free to buy a gun, but you are responsible for everything you do with that gun. If you shoot your neighbor and you think you have only to answer to your God for that, then that’s still the law of the jungle. That’s why there are laws about what you can do with your gun, and police to enforce those laws.

    We also have freedom of speech, but we are again responsible for what we say. The problem in America is that we think that freedom of speech means we must have no rules, and thus we have no rules. Ergo, people say anything that comes into their heads with impunity and eventually get used to the idea that nobody is listening to them, because in fact people don’t listen to each other in such a “free” environment. People talk a lot of nonsense in the US, use violent speech, scream at each other, won’t talk to anybody who doesn’t agree with them, all the while insisting on their right to say exactly what they please.

    This is why you asked the question, “After all, how do you know MY thought processes?” The answer, once again, was simple: I know how you think because I listen to you! That must seem unusual to you, that someone is actually listening to what you say. The reason for that is that you have lived all your life in America, while I have spent a long time in other countries where people speak quietly, efficiently, and politely with each other. I’ve become accustomed to it.

    Americans have told me I have a foreign accent (which is untrue), and the police in Hollywood Florida once grilled me for ten minutes trying to find out where I was from, even after I showed them my US passport as proof “over their head” that I was an American citizen. Even you come out with:

    “How the heck am I supposed to know that you have lived under their system for 30 years? Perhaps you have mentioned that before, but the only thing I know about you is that you currently live in France, or one of its neighbors. That’s it.”

    I had indeed mentioned that before, but you weren’t listening. Somehow you “know” that I am currently living in France, which is not true: I have said repeatedly, and recently, that I am living with my brother in Midland Park NJ, a very Republican town where there is no sense voting, this year anyway. However, I do spend much of each year in Europe, mainly France, because all of my customers are European. That’s it.

    In passing, I note your continued use of the wording “live under” their system. It’s as if, when there is a system, there are rules and thus you “live under” something. Using that expression, you didn’t even have to specify to me that you were against “big gummint” “enchroaching on your liberties”, it was all evident to me in that “live under” turn of phrase.

    I maintain that the rules are there to define and uphold your freedoms, not suppress them.

  184. You know, it would be much easier to be a liberal if it weren’t for the completely vicious immoral assholes I have to be associated with.

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    Yeah. But look who the conservatives have to be associated with.

  185. All one needs to do is look at France, which is always the example that supporters for healthcare reform bring up. I’ve read that their system stinks, and that it runs in the red to the tune of billions of dollars.

    =======================

    You might do some fact-checking on that. Don’t believe everything you read on Rightwing sites.

    Look up ‘life expectancy’ in France vs US, at some neutral source.

  186. Hillary Clinton claims that potential life begins at conception

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    Hillary strongly supports abortion rights. She made a strong statement about that in Canada some months ago. I’m sure the subject has come up many times since, on her travels.

  187. In Hillary’s health plan, there was an individual mandate that would affect you and the many like you that think you don’t need coverage because you lead a healthy life. However, her individual mandate was hitched to an offer of a multitude of plans, including plans that only cover catastrophes, like injuries due to an auto accident

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    And HIllary didn’t rely on the IRS or any other Mitt-style punitive enforcement. In her plan, when an uninsured person turned up at a hospital needing care, some staff person would immediately enroll him in whatever plan would be best for him.

  188. “Hard to believe, 33,000 people wrote in the name Murkowski (and spelled it correctly)…”

    Just think of how many people could spell “Clinton” in a draft-Hillary movement!

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    LOL!

  189. “I did not mind Lisa Murkowsky’s stand as a write-in independent candidtae against the wishes of the GOP party. I personally like it when I can have more choices. ”

    Sorry, I forgot who posted this! I had the opposite reaction to her. She said she was running so that people would have a choice – but she DID run in the primary, they had a choice then, she just lost. So the reason about running to give people a choice didn’t cut it, for me…..

  190. This is why you asked the question, “After all, how do you know MY thought processes?” The answer, once again, was simple: I know how you think because I listen to you! That must seem unusual to you, that someone is actually listening to what you say. The reason for that is that you have lived all your life in America, while I have spent a long time in other countries where people speak quietly, efficiently, and politely with each other. I’ve become accustomed to it.
    **************

    I know your comments were not addressed to me, but I do take some homage with your loud, ugly American caricature. Last I was aware, it was the provincial Germans that rolled into quaint France, and the whole of Europe, sans Britain, and murdered 6 million people, throwing live children into flaming ovens. It was also the quiet, reserved, Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor, unprovoked, killing multiple thousands for years to come.

    And it was the ugly Americans that put Humpty Dumpty together again,along with the rebuilding of Europe and the Far East…all on the American dime and the blood of it’s finest…

    I am a LOUD,PROUD AMERICAN and the World should thank God we are who we are. The Greatest civilization ever known

  191. turndownobama
    November 4th, 2010 at 12:27 am
    “Hard to believe, 33,000 people wrote in the name Murkowski (and spelled it correctly)…”
    *************

    they gave out pre-written cars with her name on it and wrist bracelets

  192. gonzo – not to detract from your point – but did you perhaps mean “umbrage”, not “homage”? I think you accidentally said the opposite of what you meant to say 🙂

  193. articles about similar types of healthcare systems, and how bad they are viewed by those who live under them,

    ====================

    People who have only lived under one system of course will talk about its flaws and take its good points for granted. A more balanced view would come from people who have lived under more than one and can compare them.

    Another way to get a balanced view is to lurk at some support sites for sufferers from a particular disease, eg diabetes, which have posters from many different countries. I did this for a few years and the people most satisfied with their country’s health plan were those in NZ, Australia, and Canada. They felt sorry for us in the US when we told them the details of how it is here.

  194. This is why the individual mandate in Hillary’s plan allowed health freaks like you to assume just accident insurance alone.

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    Datapoint. I’d go for that. I too am a health nut and seldom get sick, nothing serious. I figured if I was ever in a car wreck somebody’s insurance would pay. Then one day I fell off my horse….

  195. This is why the individual mandate in Hillary’s plan allowed health freaks like you to assume just accident insurance alone.

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    Datapoint. I’d go for that. I too am a health nut and seldom get sick, nothing serious. I figured if I was ever in a car wreck somebody’s insurance would pay. Then one day I fell off my horse….

  196. “I’ve seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn’t believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don’t want a phony Democrat. If it’s a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don’t want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.”

    Harry S Truman
    – Address at the National Convention Banquet of the Americans for Democratic Action (May 17, 1952)

  197. turndown

    $2,000,000 for a weekend in Mumbai?

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    Nope, that’s 2 million up there in your post.
    The correct amount is TWO HUNDRED Million per day!!!!!!!

    Not 2 million a weekend, two HUNDRED MILLION.

  198. read somewhere it would be longer than 2 days maybe 2 weeks?
    anyone know exactly how long?
    how much per day will the rest of it cost?

    freaking amazing the lack of caring zero has for the current plight of the unemployed.

  199. About my “loud ugly American” image: your points about how America fixed a loud ugly world are well understood on my part. However, that proud history is part of a receding past, and the point I made about how Europeans – and others, including the Japanese – NOW conduct themselves on the world scene and in their personal communications still stands, in comparison to the way Americans NOW conduct themselves on the world scene and personally amongst themselves which also still stands. I say this from life experience, half spent in the US and half spent abroad. I am thus thankful for turndown’s point about valuing the word of people who have experienced two different systems because they can knowledgeably compare the workings of the two.

    Ever since I posted the little story of the Florida police who insisted on determining a foreign nationality for me, I’ve been laughing about it. In fact, at the time, I began laughing too. I couldn’t believe how dumb they were – an idiot sighting par excellence!

    I was surrounded by six of these bovine bipeds who were just looking for some reason to “take me in”. The leader began by asking if I had anything to prove I was a US citizen. I told him I was enough of a US citizen to know he had no right to ask me for ID, on the sidewalk no less, especially when they knew perfectly well who I was. Another one said that people (who?) were saying I was a foreigner. “Why are they saying that?” he asks. “Why don’t you ask them?” I respond. They shuffle around.

    Another tells me to get off the sidewalk and come into the street, and another tells me to come off onto private property (my home, which was the reason the police were there, but that’s another funny but long story).

    Then I pull out my passport, thinking that would get them off my back. Turns out not even the leader of the pack had ever seen a US passport. He asks, “Don’t you have a driver’s license?” I said I had a French driver’s license but didn’t have it on me and it wasn’t valid in the US anyway, not delivered by US authorities. “So you’re French!” one of them chimes in. I say No. “Do you have proof you’re not French?” asks the leader. That’s when I started to repress a giggle. I managed to say, “There’s no such thing as a document that proves you’re not something…”

    I think it was because there were two negatives in that last sentence that I saw there gazes turn from ferocious to quizzical and back to more ferocious than before. One of them whips off his handcuffs and says “That does it. Let’s take ‘im in.” The giggle passed real fast and I said, “Look, you’ve got my passport, and that’s the best proof you can possibly have that you’re a US citizen,” stupidly adding, “you need more proof of citizenship to get a passport than you need proof of intelligence to get into the Hollywood police force, and that’s going some!”

    None of them knew how to take that, but fortunately the leader turned his attention to the passport and started fingering all the empty pages in it. On one page there was a Moroccan customs stamp, which he demanded I explain, and then the other turd comes in with “prove you’re not Moroccan!”

    But the leader finally found his way to the back cover where the ID is. He says, “Where does it say you’re a US citizen?” It doesn’t say that anywhere, of course, so I was really in trouble now. It took me another 2 minutes or so to remember that it doesn’t say “US citizen” on the Florida driver’s license either, and yet they were ready to accept a license as proof of citizenship.

    Then came the suspicion of “Who issued this document, Mr. Swezey?” They were becoming slightly more polite. I said, “It was issued by the State Department, like all passports”. “The Florida State department? What department? Not motor vehicles!” I said, “No the United States State Department in Washington DC, it’s an agency of the Federal Government; and that, officer, is over your head.” I was glad I didn’t have to explain that the State Department deals in foreign affairs, that would have blown me back to the starting point.

    That turned the tide in my favor. Leader asks, “Are you saying you’re a Federal Agent?” I said, “I used to be, but I’m in private affairs now.” “Well why didn’t you say that right off?” He took another long look at the passport and front cover, slapped it closed and handed it back to me with, “It’s a privilege, have a good day” to which I added some good humor: “You have nice cars, gentlemen; keep them in good shape now!” and made a point of walking out of the circle of police right between the leader and the thug with the handcuffs drawn and his face screwed into one huge question mark.

    Five yards out, I began silently laughing at the whole experience, but then realized that I was the dumbest of the lot: I should have asked THEM for ID!

  200. thats a hell of a lot of money… too bad he doest apply that to the mortgage crisis or somewhere it was needed.

  201. Ten days. Twelve with travel to and fro included.
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    I have seen some expensive wakes in my time, but never have I seen one like this where in the words of Gilbert and Sullivan he seeks the seclusion that the Taj Mahal grants and so do his staffers and their sisters and their cousins and their aunts together with his worshipful big media acolytes all along for ballast. Perhaps I am being too tough on him. Maybe I am just being mean kicking a dog when he is down. After all what is a poor feller like Barack to do when he is prez and he feels bad because people are telling him that the public has rebuked little old him, just because they saw fit to take out their anger on 1 or 2 or maybe 65 of his colleagues, so sad, so sad, but what more could he have done to save them. Now there is a question for the ages. The main thing to understand here is that Obama is not a dog (but if he were he would be a Portuguese water dog with a chest full of blue ribbons and Nobel prizes. But most of all he does have feelings, and perhaps he can strike a JFK pose for the front page of Newsweek to get back in the sweet spot. The even larger point however is that as great as he is Barack Hussein Obama has a spiritual side and does not live by bread alone, and neither does Michelle. Thank God there is always champagne, caviar and the Taj Mahal to drown your sorrows (no not Soros, drowning is too good for him), she gets to pick the vintage, and in the immoral (correction, immortal) words of Scarlett Ohara tomorrow is another day. Meanwhile the work on Mount Rushmore and Mount Olympus has been temporarily suspended.

  202. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,723814,00.html

    And there have been many weaknesses. Obama allowed Congress to negotiate the details of his healthcare reform while he deliberately held back. What emerged was a half-hearted reform that is complicated and that is really a reform of the health insurance system. But to get that reform, Obama used up his political capital, the one window of opportunity every new president gets.
    [….]
    During the presidential election campaign, he masterfully controlled his public image. In office, however, he has been sending out some rather strange signals. As the BP oil spill was polluting the Gulf of Mexico, his wife and younger daughter flew to Spain, while the president himself played basketball with his chums. It gave the impression that Obama was part of a carefree, macho group that amused itself while the country suffered.

  203. Linda192
    November 4th, 2010 at 12:53 am

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    Thanks Linda192. LOL…he was right the first time.

  204. I followed this link from Drudge. A lot of it we already knew, but I did not feel like picking and choosing 🙁

    34 warships sent from US for Obama visit
    New Delhi: The White House will, of course, stay in Washington but the heart of the famous building will move to India when President Barack Obama lands in Mumbai on Saturday. Communications set-up, nuclear button, a fleet of limousines and majority of the White House staff will be in India accompanying the President on this three-day visit that will cover Mumbai and Delhi. He will also be protected by a fleet of 34 warships, including an aircraft carrier, which will patrol the sea lanes off the Mumbai coast during his two-day stay there beginning Saturday. The measure has been taken as Mumbai attack in 2008 took place from the sea. Arrangements have been put in place for emergency evacuation, if needed. Obama is expected to fly by a helicopter — Marine One — from the city airport to the Indian Navy’s helibase INS Shikra at Colaba in south Mumbai. From there, he will drive down in Lincoln Continental — the Presidential limousine — to the nearby the Taj Hotel. Two jets, armed with advanced communication and security systems, and a fleet of over 40 cars will be part of Obamas convoy. Around 800 rooms have been booked for the President and his entourage in Taj Hotel and Hyatt. The President will have a security ring of American elite Secret Service, which are tasked to guard the President, along with National Security Guards (NSG) and personnel from central paramilitary forces and local police in Mumbai and Delhi. Similar arrangements will be in place in Delhi, with the Air Force One to be kept in all readiness throughout Obama’s stay here from Sunday afternoon to Tuesday morning. Maurya Hotel, where the President will stay, has already been swarmed by American security personnel and protective measures have been put in place. Security drills are already been carried out at the hotel as well as Rajghat which he will visit.
    h t t p://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

    Also, It’s ruining India’s biggest holiday:
    By Ramlah Merchant and Stefan Wagstyl
    Why’s he coming at Diwali? He wouldn’t host an official visit the White House on Christmas Day. So why’s he coming to India during our biggest festival? So say many residents of Mumbai, where US president Barack Obama arrives late on Friday for a three-day trip to India. The privileged few who will meet the great man might be excited by the prospect. But for many Mumbaikers, Obama will get in the way of what they like best – a good party. Fireworks, a highlight of any Diwali – after all, it is the festival of lights – will be banned in much of South Mumbai, where the president and his entourage will be based.
    Stores around the venerable Taj Hotel, where the Obama crowd have taken all the rooms, have been security-checked and will be allowed to stay open. But few of their potential customers will want to negotiate the police cordons and make their traditional holiday trips to the South Mumbai seafront. PNP Maritime Services, Maldar Catamarans and Ajanta Launches – boat companies providing tourist trips along the coast will be closed for three of their busiest days of the year. “Every year, business is at its peak during Diwali, but this time since Obama‘s visit coincides with the Diwali weekend we will suffer major losses,” a boat- ticket seller told beyondbrics. Would-be passengers are less than happy. Showing no sign of the Obamamania, which accompanied the president on some of his earlier foreign trips, one disgruntled Mumbaiker says he has cancelled family plans for a boat trip to Alibag, a popular coastal resort. “We had all planned to go to Alibag for the weekend to get away from the city and all the fireworks and noise during Diwali, but our plans have been completely ruined. We thought that we would have a quiet Diwali in Alibag.Those preparing Diwali feasts at home may have to go without some of their favourite dishes, with the city’s fishermen also banned for three days from coastal waters. “It’s difficult to imagine meals without fish,” student Divya Narvekar told the city’s Mid-day paper. The city is been given a quick facelift, with workmen re-painting traffic markings along the roads which Obama may use (and some that he won’t to fool potential troublemakers). And around the city’s Gandhi Museum, which Obama is due to visit, palm trees have been shorn of their coconuts for fear that one might drop on the distinguished guest’s head. The US president will doubtless be grateful for the care taken over his welfare. But given the Democrats’ drubbing in the mid-term elections, he probably has more to worry about than falling coconuts.
    http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2010/11/04/no-fireworks-for-the-president/
    [This link found in comment at pumapac.

  205. Norma Desmond:

    Thanks for posting the Felzenberg article-

    The money quote:

    “Or will he tighten up the hatches and forge ahead in the direction his gut tells him is best for the nation, public opinion polls and election returns be damned?”

    Um… yes, that about sums up Obama’s tenure so far.

  206. With so much of our military spread around the world, and the staggering number of resources which will accompany O on his vacay, I cannot help but wonder if the US mainland is being left too vulnerable.

  207. “Similar arrangements will be in place in Delhi, with the Air Force One to be kept in all readiness throughout Obama’s stay here from Sunday afternoon to Tuesday morning.”

    Air Force One IDLES on the tarmac for TWO WHOLE DAYS!!!????

  208. Text from an email: Wow. Who knew?
    …Tea Party Patriots is launching a Perpetual Legislative Watch/Congressional Accountability Project. We have already been watching the legislators for the past 20 months. We have no intention of letting up now. On the weekend of November 12 – 14, local coordinators from around the country will meet with the incoming Congressional freshmen for an orientation. We will have legislative experts who will guide the freshmen on how to first defund and ultimately repeal government controlled health care. We will have economic experts to help them understand the things they will need to do to reduce the federal deficit and restore fiscal sanity to the country. We will have experts who can provide guidance on how to restore Constitutional governance to the country. We will help them to bond together to restore the Constitution in the upcoming legislative session. Finally, we want them to know that if they do the right thing, they will have the support of the people….

  209. I spoke this morning with my indian american friends former neighbors, apparently today is thr first day of Diwali. My friends called to invite my family to the diwali festival celebration this weekend.

    they still have family in India, yes, they are pretty annoyed, very annoyed that Waffles is riuning the Diwali festivals in Mumbai, a city where many many people come to spend their diwali holidays.

    Do these idiots at the WH not pay any attention to the calender??!??!

  210. Obama fail’s already:

    “We will also gift them a khadi scroll in which the seven social sins which he quoted in ‘Young India’ in 1925 are imprinted,” Kumar said.

    The seven social sins are politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice.”

    On Obama’s visit to the Gandhi Memorial

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/at-rajghat-obama-will-be-an-ordinary-man-64462

  211. Waffles on TV saying “American people saying don’t waste taxpayer money”…..right before he goes on a 2 billion dollar vacation.

    Is this moron for real?!

  212. Is anyone else watching Waffles on TV, he looks awful, he looks like a little kid trying to act like a responsible competent adult.

  213. Waffles : “Americans do not want us to engage in gridlock”

    To stop your awful detrimental legislation… YES they do!!

  214. Tim, you could not make it up and again it just show, he does not get anything that has just happened, its business as usual.

  215. He’s definitely in trouble now

    GOP top Obama in 2012 match up

    CNN poll: Huckabee 52, Obama 44; Romney 50, Obama 45; Obama 52, Palin 44

    Palin has gained a lot of ground.

  216. he looks awful, he looks like a little kid trying to act like a responsible competent adult.
    —————————
    I watched yesterday.
    The Incredible Shrinking President came to mind.

  217. Thanks to Hillary…

    NZ, US ties at its best in 25 years

    Kate Chapman
    November 5, 2010

    New Zealand and the United States have agreed to co-operate on military issues across the board, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said after signing the Wellington Declaration.

    Areas specifically mentioned in the declaration are annual political military talks, regular ministerial-level meetings, and working together in the Pacific region on energy and natural disaster response projects.

    Clinton said on Thursday the two countries want to work together on the many areas of mutual interest.

    She said the countries had a procedure for handling military co-operation and would look to do more in that area.

    It would be up to the respective military how that would work but was likely to include more joint training, officer exchanges and joint exercises.

    She commended the NZ government for the recent defence white paper, which signalled a close security partnership over the next 25 years.

    Prime Minister John Key said New Zealand valued being able to train with, and work alongside, the US on military issues.

    “Because we operate together in countries like Afghanistan, it’s clearly of importance and significance that we extend our training exercises.”

    Labour leader Phil Goff, who also met with Clinton on Thursday, said the signing of the Wellington Declaration was consistent with the strengthening of the US, NZ relationship.

    While joint military exercises would be welcome, Goff said he believed New Zealand should remain a friend, rather than ally, of the US to ensure decisions about when and where New Zealand should enter conflicts remained up to the government.

    Clinton said the Wellington Declaration provided a framework for the countries to work together to solve problems in the region.

    “My visit is part of a considered, concerted effort to restore America’s rightful place as an engaged Pacific nation.”

    New Zealand was a strong partner in the pursuit of that aim and the US relationship with New Zealand was at its strongest and most productive in 25 years.

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/nz-us-ties-at-its-best-in-25-years-20101105-17g05.html

  218. Hillary Clinton far away — but not because of politics

    It seems like an irresistible story line: Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was in Papua New Guinea (where?), nearly 10,000 miles away from Washington, when the Democrats lost control of Congress.

    Surely she must be keeping her political options open! Why else would she choose to spend two weeks on the road during the worst week of her old rival’s presidency?

    Don’t buy it. Clinton’s trip has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with scheduling.

    It was her idea that the United States should participate in the East Asia Summit in Vietnam, an ideal opportunity to make an impact in a region increasingly dominated by China. It is a leaders’ summit, but President Obama couldn’t go overseas just before the midterm elections. So the duty to represent the administration fell to Clinton.

    Meanwhile, the earthquake in Haiti early this year struck just as the secretary was heading to Papua New Guinea, New Zealand and Australia. She scrubbed that trip but had to schedule a make-up visit before the year ran out. Since she had to be in Vietnam anyway, this was the perfect time to tack on that visit.

    Questioned by reporters about the results while visiting Port Moresby, PNG’s capital, Clinton said she would work with the new Congress and suggested she did not think the results would have much impact on the administration’s foreign policy. “What I have always found is that when it comes to foreign policy, it is important to remember that politics stops at the water’s edge,” she said.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkpoint-washington/2010/11/hillary_clinton_far_away–but.html

  219. Key wraps Clinton’s Wellington visit with intimate BBQ

    Thu, 04 Nov 2010
    By Charlotte Tonkin

    Hillary Clinton is arguably the most powerful woman in the world – just four steps down from the presidency itself.

    When she travels, she travels with an entourage befitting her status.

    Today, in and around the Beehive there was no security measure too small to ensure the Secretary of State’s safety. There was pacing, prodding, searching and sniffing.

    Ms Clinton arrived in Hollywood style – against a backdrop of golden sunrise, in a plane leaving no question as to the country she represents.

    But well before the sun rose, New Zealand media huddled in the cold, testing equipment under security’s watchful eyes, before being shuffled single file into the hangar.

    Ms Clinton was greeted by the United States Ambassador, David Huebner, and Wellington’s trademark gusts – which also accompanied her on a walk around the waterfront.

    A spokesman for Ms Clinton’s security detail declined to disclose just how many staff were travelling with her today.

    Tonight there will be a change in diet and a change of pace for Ms Clinton; staff at Logan Brown in Wellington have spent two weeks coming up with a menu for an intimate barbeque at Premier House with Prime Minister John Key.

    Just 12 people made the guest list – three shy of the number of cars it took to drive Ms Clinton 900 metres to the Beehive.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Key-wraps-Clintons-Wellington-visit-with-intimate-BBQ/tabid/419/articleID/184733/Default.aspx

  220. Let’s talk turkey here…

    Two hundred million per day
    times 12 days

    Equals: TWO BILLION, FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS for Barry’s little trip to Mumbai!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Obama isn’t a multi-billionaire, so that is OUR money!!!

  221. Talk about speed out of the blocks. Palin has leaped out ahead of her R establishment rivals with a video and article. The video recognizes those she supported and the article sets the agenda for the 2012 R approach. Her technique is to act as if she is the leader and dare others to follow or get out of the way. Real chutzpah! Before the dust settles she has set the terms of the battle inside the republican party. Romney et al are still putting on their running shoes!

    You have to admire tactical brilliance.

    Apparently her 2006 Alaska campaign was written up as a case study in brilliant campaign tactics. This is no political dummy. Like her or hate her she is a force to be reckoned with. I would not be surprised to see a Hillary-Sarah match-up in 2012. What a battle that would be!

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/252477/midterms-lessons-learned-and-way-forward-sarah-palin?page=2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3sj8q5lfY&feature=player_embedded

  222. I know The One is growing cold his hope and change is barely warm
    Election night is finally over he faces now a growing storm
    When he’s bs’n no one’s guess’n its all a lie to them
    We know he’s reached the beginning of the end
    The beginning of the end is now at hand
    He doesn’t know it that he blown, it he cannot see
    Such a fool, such a tool, he’s that and more for sure
    We know he’s reached the beginning of the end

    More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/loretta_lynn/#share
    ——————————

    ALVIN FELZENBERG
    Obama’s Presidency Is Unraveling
    By ALVIN FELZENBERG
    Posted: October 13, 2010
    Print

    Make no bones about it–what we have been witnessing these past several months has been nothing short of the unraveling of the Obama presidency. “Don’t be so sure,” his defenders will insist. “Reagan and Clinton saw their parties take a dive in the first off-year election of their presidencies, only to recover and win easy re-elections. What reasons have you to think that Obama’s situation will be any different?” In a word, plenty.

    First off, neither Reagan nor Clinton, nor any other president in either memory or history began hemorrhaging so many senior advisers so close to an approaching election. The others preferred to do their housekeeping afterward and in a way that made the presidents look like they were the ones making the decisions. Rapid and often unexplained departures such as the ones we have witnessed at the highest of levels are indicative of an administration in disarray. Those who lost major policy battles or personality fights wanted out before they became identified with programs they opposed or do not believe will work.

    That so many chose to announce their own departures and the dates of their exits rather than allow the president to do it was not a positive sign. What other president in memory would have allowed his chief of staff to hold Washington and the political community nationwide in suspense for weeks as he publicly contemplated his next career move? The primary role demand of that job is to subordinate one’s own ego and career prospects to the president’s. Just ask Jim Baker. Other presidents would have showed Rahm Emanuel the door last winter, when stories appeared that attributed Obama’s difficulties in passing healthcare and other legislation to his failure to listen to his extraordinarily brilliant deputy.

    [See an opinion slide show on five other officials who should leave the Obama administration.]

    Warren G. Harding may have been incompetent, as historians like to say, but he certainly attracted more loyal help.

    And speaking of incompetence, what are we to conclude when a president, a self-proclaimed constitutional expert, sends his principle messenger on television to assert that the Chamber of Commerce committed the crime of funneling funds raised from foreign sources into congressional campaigns without a shred of evidence? (Axelrod’s “how do you know they didn’t?” proved too much even for a Washington press corps that once acted as if it thought Obama could do no wrong.)

    Second, Reagan, arguably as ideological a president in his own way as Obama is in his, had two things going for him that Obama lacks. Reagan never stepped “out of character.” In good times, as well as bad, he always appeared presidential. It is inconceivable that Reagan would ever have transformed himself into the circus barker Obama came to resemble while on the stump in Philadelphia. As he blamed everyone else for the nation’s difficulties, the once aspiring “post-partisan” president appeared more a part of the problem than its solution. Like it or not, he now “owns” that nearly 10 percent unemployment rate, the war in Afghanistan, and all he his team confided to Bob Woodward.

    [See photos of the Obamas behind the scenes.]

    Bill Clinton, having rescued his party from the clutches of a “progressive wing” that had lost it three successive presidential elections, seemed to go off the rails when he deferred to it within weeks of his election. After voters took corrective action, the “old Clinton” returned and with a vengeance. The “Comeback Kid” shrewdly seized upon the GOP’s winning control of Congress as an opportunity to remind his “base” that he was all that stood in the way of Republican and conservative control of the executive and legislative branches. That allowed him to approach the Republicans with his party united behind him. Clinton’s success at that kept him in office in the face of impeachment.

    Reagan, with even greater grace, left his base disappointed too. Somewhere among my clutter, rests a button proclaiming, “Let Reagan be Reagan,” a plea to the president to resist all those purported “squishes” around him (like Baker, George Schultz, Mike Deaver, and the first lady) who thought he might come out just fine “doing business” with Gorbachev, pulling troops out of Lebanon, and making peace with the New Deal.

    For the better part of a year, Obama has given the impression that he would rather be “right” in the eyes of his base than president. (Unlike Henry Clay, he chose not to do it by investing heavily in infrastructure, but in government workers.) If voters come to sense that Obama is serious about this, they may help him out by taking the job off of his hands. This presumes, of course, that his fellow Democrats do not do it before they get a chance. (Paging Margaret Thatcher.)

    Democrats are a less forgiving lot than Republicans when it comes to sticking with leaders who drove them off a cliff (or as the president likes to say, “into a ditch”). Bush’s rising numbers–to say nothing about his initial rise after voters turned his father out of office–attest to this. His ratings should climb even higher when 43 embarks on his long-awaited book tour days after the election. Then will come the dedication of his presidential library, followed by speculation about another Bush or two in the nation’s future.

    On the other side of the partisan ledger, Bill Clinton remains the only Democratic president elected after World War II to win re-election. Truman, Johnson, and Carter were undone in part by vigorous efforts within their own party to “dump” them either in the midst of unpopular wars, poor handling of the economy, or growing perceptions that they were just not up to the job. Only Carter persisted in battling it out through the convention and beyond. Judging from his recently published diary and subsequent interviews, he resents Ted Kennedy for daring to challenge him. Come the day after the election, leaks will begin to surface about internal Democratic discussions about Obama’s future and their own.

    With Republicans going into 2012, unlike 1968 (Nixon) and 1980 (Reagan), with no clear favorite on the horizon, this time a Democratic challenger may have a chance of both winning the nomination and going all the way. And with Obama, the erstwhile “change” candidate, appearing more and more like just another politician–and a failed one at that–they have a well-seasoned candidate as well as a potential president waiting in the wings. Has anyone noticed how quiet James Carville has been lately?

    Check out our editorial cartoons on Obama.
    Follow the money in Congress.
    See a slide show of the 10 keys to an Obama comeback.
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    Mandrake
    Jared is right . The source of the degredation is stratist facists . The New World Order is The Fourth Reich . Bush /Cheny on the right and Obama on tne left , the right and left fists of the same pugilist who wants to totally subjugate every free person on the Planet .
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    mandrake of WA @ Oct 26, 2010 02:54:59 AM
    GOP Unraveling – thanks to T-Punkers
    Stupid is as Stupid does.
    To join ranks with the anti-government crowd, the outright racist reactionaries, and the dope-smokers like Paul and Palin, the GOP is gutter diving for votes. But they are getting paid well to do it by foreign interests.
    Maybe this blitz of freakn wackos is hiding the facts the GOP under Bush II screwed our economy, bailed out the bankers so they could bleed mortgage payers dry, and piled up the enormous deficit. And hide the fact that’s exactly what the GOP will do again, trash the country.
    You know the old dog n pony trick. ‘Hey look at the crazies …
    http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-baja-arizona/2010/09/28/now-weve-got-nazis-running-around-the-desert/
    … while you’re looking why not support some billionaires idea of stripping you of any rights. Hey we’re paying for your porta-potty at your teabagger gathering … How about liberating you of the social security money you paid in to give it away to billionaires in absurd tax cuts for the rich. They really need it to pad their offshore accounts, you know and then the same billionaires can say government doesn’t work for you (because they just swindled you out of your money).
    Wake up. There is big money waging class warfare against Americans so this country will end up being an entitlement for billionaires, purchased by billionaires, and to end up a private reserve of billionaires.
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    Jill of CA @ Oct 19, 2010 20:18:14 PM
    Yo Stanley
    You represent the dems well, by that I mean you are a complete whack job like the rest of the blind and misguided group!
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    B Jim of KS @ Oct 18, 2010 17:31:58 PM
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  223. “Today, in and around the Beehive there was no security measure too small to ensure the Secretary of State’s safety. There was pacing, prodding, searching and sniffing.”
    _____________________

    Glad to hear that. Hillary is all that stands between us and the annihilation of our way of life.

    By protecting her from harm, she, in essence, is protecting us.

  224. kay,
    That’s one great video and I love that bear!

    Shadowfax,

    What I don’t get is why he’s going to India? Is there anything that important over there that would be so important to spend this much money? I mean, India has alot of our jobs and I imagine he’s going to give him some more of our jobs so why? If he wants to just “get out of town”, can’t he go somewhere less dangerous so we can not spend so much money?
    I wonder how many friends they are taking with them? I imagine half of Rev. Wright’s church goes on alot of free vacation per our tax money.

  225. I think this just made me sick

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/11/04/cuomo_for_president.html

    Cuomo for President?
    Former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo could never quite pull the trigger on a run for president, but the New York Post notes he already sees greater things for his son, Andrew, the newly-elected New York governor.

    Said the elder Cuomo: “If Andrew with his bright mind comes up with good ideas and is able to implement them, then of course he ought to be considered for a higher place.”

  226. confloyd,

    I read a while back that obama thinks this trip to India will make everything okay in his world of denial. He thinks he will be lauded like a messiah again.

  227. the comment posted above from an email is actually available on the tea party partiots website: http://teapartypatriots.org/

    “The warm up is complete. Now the real fight begins!

    As Samuel Adams said, “It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.”

    Tea Party Patriots is launching a Perpetual Legislative Watch/Congressional Accountability Project. We have already been watching the legislators for the past 20 months. We have no intention of letting up now. On the weekend of November 12 – 14, local coordinators from around the country will meet with the incoming Congressional freshmen for an orientation. We will have legislative experts who will guide the freshmen on how to first defund and ultimately repeal government controlled health care. We will have economic experts to help them understand the things they will need to do to reduce the federal deficit and restore fiscal sanity to the country. We will have experts who can provide guidance on how to restore Constitutional governance to the country. We will help them to bond together to restore the Constitution in the upcoming legislative session. Finally, we want them to know that if they do the right thing, they will have the support of the people.

    Again, congratulations on your hard work! We are making a difference in this country and together we will continue to make a difference in this country.”

    so its confirmed and not just an email rumor…

  228. “ALVIN FELZENBERG
    Obama’s Presidency Is Unraveling
    By ALVIN FELZENBERG
    Posted: October 13, 2010
    Print

    Make no bones about it–what we have been witnessing these past several months has been nothing short of the unraveling of the Obama presidency.”

    SO WHAT I SAY – THE DIRTY DEEDS HAVE BEEN DONE, OBAMA’S USEFULLNESS IS OVER !

    The banks privatized profit and publicized liability, the insurance industry and pharma, profits secure, breath a sigh of relief. The people were ready to grab the gold ring but those who think they “own” the gold ring got there first and moved it. They used Obama, the democrat party and probably the republican party to do it. And now our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are stuck with OVERWHELMING DEBT, and if they ever manage to get a little money piled up there is nothing to stop the “owners” from grabbing it again.

  229. confloyd

    What I don’t get is why he’s going to India?

    ———-

    You totally crack me up. Either by your questions or humor, or both.

    Who knows why Barry does anything except to benefit himself.

    Maybe MO likes the heat, or there is a run on PepBoy sales there.

  230. JanH
    November 4th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Shadowfax,

    Or China’s money?
    ——-
    Well, if it’s China’s money…then have fun Barry.

    The taxes either taken today or in the future are coming out of our paychecks. The interest is paid by our taxes too, so China makes a profit.

  231. And I forgot the worst thing, Obama et el conspired to deprive the American people of the presidency of a woman whose intelligence and altruistic love for this country rivals the founders. And for what – so banks could stuff yet more money in their pockets, same for insurance and pharma, for Pelosi and Obama’s egos, or that skinny thing that is married to Alan Greenspan can get revenge ditto that fat guy with all the teeth? How many of those people got paid for what they did, tingles, olberman and maddow for sure, but how many more took money with out telling us? If there is such a thing as karma in 5 years not a one of the 2008 players will be left standing – and if they are left holding tin cups on the corner that would be ok with me.

  232. Wow, Drudge is coving the 2.4 Billion dollar vacation with a huge photo and caption:

    OBAMA ‘TAKING 34 WARSHIPS TO INDIA’

    ——–
    …..maybe he’s planning to start a new war on his vacation, just for excitement.

  233. Looks like we are not the only ones that think of Hillary as our President:

    We all know that Hillary Clinton came close to winning the Democratic nomination for president of the United States in 2008. She wasn’t successful, but some people clearly haven’t forgotten about what could have been.

    The secretary of state joined New Zealand Prime Minister John Phillip Key and New Zealand Foreign Minister Murray Stuart McCully for remarks Thursday at Wellington’s Parliament Theatrette, and the prime minister made a little slip-up.

    “And we, in a purely bilateral basis, have concerns about the fact that Australia” has a free-trade agreement, began Key. “They’re a very important part of our market in New Zealand, so we see Trans-Pacific Partnership as a very important item to be completed if at all possible. So, President Clinton …” (See: Forget VP: Clinton World Eyes 2016)

    Laughter — and applause — ensued, according to the State Department’s transcript, and Key was forced to correct himself.

    “I’m sorry. Secretary Clinton — great,” he said. “I thank you for your time here in New Zealand, and I look forward to seeing President Obama when he is here in Japan next week.”

    http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1011/meet_president_hillary_clinton.html

  234. Just in from RNC:
    …There are 11 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate that have yet to be decided. Winning these races and strengthening our Republican numbers in both chambers of Congress is critical to rolling back Barack Obama’s reckless spending, job-killing, big government agenda. Victory depends on our candidates having the resources to fight in these recounts and runoffs. Obama and his band of big government special interest cronies aren’t holding anything back. They are already pouring all of their available resources into these campaigns and dumping millions of dollars into the Democrat candidates’ war chests in a desperate bid to hold back our growing Republican gains. The RNC has pledged to provide the funding needed to fully back our candidates facing recounts and runoffs to ensure Republican victories. That is why I am asking the RNC’s strongest grassroots supporters like you to make an urgent contribution of $50, $75 or $100 right now….

    With Obama, money is made to be spent … by him.

  235. jeswezey
    November 4th, 2010 at 2:54 am
    About my “loud ugly American” image: your points about how America fixed a loud ugly world are well understood on my part. However, that proud history is part of a receding past, and the point I made about how Europeans – and others, including the Japanese – NOW conduct themselves on the world scene and in their personal communications still stands, in comparison to the way Americans NOW conduct themselves on the world scene and personally amongst themselves which also still stands.

    *************************

    PART OF A RECEDING PAST? I believe you have been in Europe far too long and have forgotten who you are…or were.

    I stand with America’s Exceptionalism. There would be no Europe without America, period! And in that fact belies the jealousy and arrogance of Europe.

    Let me review a few a more recent American interventions that have cost American blood/and or money. IRRELEVANT,IN THE PAST MY ASS!

    America, Bosnia, Europe: A Compelling Interest
    Robert Kagan
    CARNEGIE
    WEEKLY STANDARD, NOVEMBER 6, 1995
    America, Bosnia, Europe: A Compelling Interest

    Reprinted by permission of The Weekly Standard, November 6, 1995

    The first serious negotiations aimed at ending the Bosnian conflict begin this week in Ohio, but the debate over President Clinton’s proposal to deploy 20,000 American troops to help enforce the as-yet-unachieved settlement has been raging for weeks. So far that debate has focused primarily on questions of implementation — how large the force, how clear the rules of engagement, how long the duration of deployment — and on the American goal in Bosnia. Should we seek a multiethnic state or a partitioned state? But for all their significance, these issues are only part of a broader and more vital set of questions Americans must answer in the coming weeks: Is the United States farsighted enough in this post-Cold War era to recognize threats to its vital interests before they have grown to crisis proportions? And, if so, are Americans willing to take the necessary risks today to avoid facing much greater risks five or ten years from now? For the United States as a world power, the problem of Bosnia is, and always has been, about more than Bosnia. It has been about America’s will and capacity to use its power effectively to maintain a stable and secure Europe, which in turn is the essential foundation for maintaining a world order conducive to American interests and ideals.

    Just let me point out a few lines here for you jeswezy…t has been about America’s will and capacity to use its power effectively to maintain a stable and secure Europe…when was this ,oh yes,1995

    Peace in Bosnia: a dividend of American leadership – Pres. Bill Clinton – Transcript
    US Department of State Dispatch, Dec, 1995

    ************
    Can there be peace in the wake of sectarian rioting in Northern Ireland?
    July 12, 1996:
    Peace seems uncertain in the wake of demonstrations in Northern Ireland.
    July 12, 1996:
    Two Irish reporters participate in an Online Forum on the All-Party Peace Talks.
    February 12, 1996:
    Following a bombing in downtown London, the NewsHour looks at its impact on the Irish peace negotiations.
    December 1, 1995:
    Margaret Warner looks at Clinton’s trip to Ireland.
    International intrigue, closed-door diplomacy, and a monumental struggle between two world powers; no, it is not the latest Tom Clancy novel. It is the true story of the Clinton administration’s work to negotiate a new British-Irish accord as told by Irish Times correspondent Conor O’Clery.
    His new book, “Daring Diplomacy: Clinton’s Secret Search for Peace in Ireland,” is the behind-the-scenes recounting of the White House’s secret negotiations with the Irish Republican Army [IRA], the furious diplomatic struggles between Britain and the U.S., and Clinton’s controversial trip to Northern Ireland.

    Ah, the French, such a gentle people…
    I guess those cafe side chats aren’t working out so well…
    ********

    France braces for riots as protests turn violent
    By John Lichfield in Paris

    Tuesday, 19 October 2010

    Riot police charge at student demonstrators in Lyon yesterday

    A menacing new spectre hung over the French pension reform dispute yesterday – the threat of a re-run of the multi-racial suburban riots of five years ago.

    As petrol shortages spread and the country braced for a new day of strikes and marches today, there were violent incidents and clashes between police and youths in a dozen cities and suburbs around France.

    Paying to keep the peace: is military intervention abroad necessary to protect U.S. economic interests?
    Regulation, Spring, 2003 by Eugene Gholz, Daryl G. Press

    THE UNITED STATES MILITARY IS VERY busy these days battling rogue states and hunting down terrorists. But another U.S. military mission demands even more resources than the operations that grab headlines. The U.S. military spends most of its time — and allocates most of its force structure — in pursuit of the quiet, unseen mission sometimes called “enhancing stability,” sometimes called “shaping,” and sometimes called “policing the empire.” While the words “stability,” “shaping,” and “policing” sound wise, what exactly does the United States gain through those efforts? Is America’s spending on global stability a good investment?
    ************

    Disrespect would be a word that comes to mind
    *************

    Don’t look to Germany;

    The U.S. military’s primary mission was once much more tangible than the current “stability” operation. During the Cold War, the United States feared that a powerful, hostile Soviet Union would conquer the other areas of the world that had major concentrations of industrial strength: Western Europe and East Asia. Such an accumulation of resources would pose a great threat to the nation, so the United States formed military alliances and deployed troops to defend Europe, Japan, and South Korea.

    YES, TO DEFEND EUROPE…so everyone over there can sleep at night ,eat their crumpets, and diss America…expatriots and all. But let us not forget the actual crumbling of the Soviet Union…who could forget the French President…no, I am sorry, the German Chancellor, oh how silly of me, the British Prime Minister Ronald Reagan…Did I say British, how silly, it was that LOUD,CRUDE, UNREFINED AMERICAN PRESIDENT that fought that cold war and won…and the walls came tumbling down!
    The speech by President Ronald Reagan to the people of West Berlin contains one of the most memorable lines spoken during his presidency. The Berlin Wall, referred to by the President, was built by Communists in August 1961 to keep Germans from escaping Communist-dominated East Berlin into Democratic West Berlin. The twelve-foot concrete wall extended for a hundred miles, surrounding West Berlin, and included electrified fences and guard posts. The wall stood as a stark symbol of the decades-old Cold War between the United States and Soviet Russia in which the two politically opposed superpowers continually wrestled for dominance, stopping just short of actual warfare.
    *****

    The night the Wall came down NOV 9 1989….

  236. sarah is on fire and shooting from the hip as she charges from the gate:
    number of items from her the last 2 days.

    I think this one is the best: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/252477/midterms-lessons-learned-and-way-forward-sarah-palin?page=1

    its worth reading:

    NOVEMBER 4, 2010 11:10 A.M.
    The Midterms: Lessons Learned and the Way Forward
    Have an intelligent message, and fight for your right to be heard.

    Now that the dust has settled on the 2010 midterm elections, it’s slowly becoming clear just how monumental the results really are. We saw an extreme left-wing agenda suffer a crushing defeat. At the ballot box, voters took Obamacare and the stimulus and wrapped them right around the necks of those same House members and senators who had arrogantly dismissed the concerns voiced in countless town halls and Tea Party rallies up and down the country. Voters sent commonsense conservatives a clear mandate to hold the line against the Obama agenda.

    Does that mean Republican candidates can look forward with greater confidence to the 2012 elections? Yes and no. Yes, objectively speaking the next electoral cycle should be even more favorable than the one that just ended. A large number of red-state Democratic senators will have to defend their seats; and since Obama will be at the top of the ballot that year, they won’t be able to hide from the fact that their party leader is a detached liberal with a destructive tax-and-spend agenda. Whether Republicans will do as well as they did in this cycle depends on whether they learn the lessons from the 2010 election.”

    … more at link

  237. California has gone off the deep end..

    San Francisco has just outlawed Happy Meals…they call it food justice. HA HA

  238. OBAMA, IS IT TWO MORE YEARS, OR SIX?

    In his pep talk to anyone left at MoveOn.org, he says he’s going to fight for what’s right blah blah blah for the next two years. Then he tacks on “…and…the next six years”. Like he’s not even sure about it.

    Listen for yourself:

    realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/03/obama_tells_moveon_six_more_years_of_hope_and_change.html

  239. Republicans are likely to urge the Obama administration not to shred documents as they transition to the House majority. 



    ————
    What a dumbass move, nothing like announcing it in the press…

    Trucks are probably pulling up to the nearest office supply store for a container full of shredders…

  240. For the first time since the fraud was elected, I feel there’s some hope we can put the skids on this lunatic in the WH. Absolutely not relaxing, but I feel the days of not having to be constantly on edge in fear of the next destructive decision made by dumbass are nearing the end.

    I have so resented being constantly worried about what that buffoon would do next. The days when I can spend my free time thinking about the beauty of the seaons, backyard barbeques, duck hunting, football, do not seem so distant now.

    Thank you Americans for rising up to confront the threat. We’re not there yet, but his wings are clipped.

  241. Cafferty is at it again…

    November 4, 2010

    Should Hillary Clinton challenge Pres. Obama in 2012?

    FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

    While her party was being tarred and feathered at the polls Tuesday, secretary of state and former first lady, senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was 9,000 miles away on the other side of the world. How convenient.

    (FILE PHOTO) Obama and Clinton square off in a 2008 Texas debate.
    She attended a women’s empowerment conference in Papua, New Guinea this week. Clinton knows a thing or two about empowerment.

    Meanwhile, back in the states, her husband, the former president, was campaigning like a madman. He made more than 100 appearances around the country on behalf of Democrats leading into the midterm election.

    Why? Surely he could read the polls as well as anyone. Democrats got the beating everybody knew they would get. So why was the former president racing around in a losing cause?

    Was it payback for the IOUs collected when Hillary was running two years ago? Or was it, perhaps, creating some new IOUs of his own on behalf of his wife?

    It’s an intriguing question. And there’s certainly some appetite within the Democratic party for a primary challenger for the president, with some polls suggesting as many as half of Democrats want that to happen.

    Unless the economy turns around and there are jobs to be had, Obama could be had in 2012. And what a rematch it would be. Think Ali-Frazier. Toe to toe for 15 rounds until both are too tired to stand.

    Hey, we can dream can’t we? And if you want to get real silly, what if the Republicans nominated Sarah Palin?

    Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.

    And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.

    http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/04/should-hillary-clinton-challenge-pres-obama-in-2012/

  242. A little fluff…

    Hillary gets true flavour of Kiwiana at BBQ

    By Derek Cheng
    November 5, 2010

    Nelson scallops, whitebait fritters and pavlova – the spread awaiting one of the most powerful women in the world at John Key’s barbecue last night had a distinctly Kiwi feel to it.

    Seafood was a major theme, including oysters, which greeted the 12 guests as they arrived, and crayfish and hapuka as two of the mains.

    For starters Hillary Clinton nibbled on whitebait fritters, wild boar sausage, Nelson scallops and paua fritters.

    For the main course, the smorgasbord included crayfish barbecued in garlic butter and grilled limes, hapuka and venison rack.

    There was no shortage of greens either with a kumara-potato salad, grilled Mediterranean vegetables, steamed asparagus, and rocket mesclun leaf salad.

    To ensure the satisfaction of bellies, there were three desserts: mini-pavlovas with passionfruit curd and kiwifruit sorbet, toffee milk creme brulee and – for the less adventurous – strawberries and blueberries.

    Several good Kiwi drops accompanied the dinner – Seresin sauvignon blanc and Pyramid Valley riesling (Marlborough), Neudorf chardonnay (Nelson), Rippon pinot noir (Wanaka), Stonecroft syrah (Hawkes Bay), and the Pegasus Bay Encore Noble riesling.

    Beers and juices flowed freely.

    The dinner was sourced and prepared by Steve Logan of Logan Brown Restaurant. Mr Logan was also on hand to explain to the diners what they were eating, and from which part of New Zealand it came.

    Mr Key gifted the US Secretary of State six bottles of Craggy Range red wine – 2008 Le Sol syrah, RRP $108 a bottle.

    The guest list of 12 included Mr Key, Foreign Minister Murray McCully, head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade John Allen, Ambassador to Washington and former Prime Minister Mike Moore, Mr Key’s chief of staff Wayne Eagleson and senior minister Judith Collins.

    It is understood that Mrs Clinton was joined by US Ambassador David Huebner and Assistant Secretary of State Kurt Campbell.

    Today she will be flying to Christchurch to visit the United States Antarctic programme, celebrating 50 years of joint scientific co-operation, an event hosted by the American Chamber of Commerce, and a town hall meeting to reach out to citizens that suffered in the September 4 earthquake.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10685459

  243. Quite the vacation spot….

    MUMBAI, India — A Delta flight landed at Mumbai on Thursday night after suspicious cargo was reported on board. All the passengers got off safely but the airport was on high alert.

    “The security agencies are checking the cargo,” said airport spokesman Manish Kalghatgi.

    The plane from Amsterdam landed at Mumbai’s international airport at 11 p.m. and was immediately taken to an isolated bay, where it was being inspected by bomb squads and airport security, Kalghatgi said.

    All 244 passengers on board Delta flight 70 were evacuated safely, he said.

    “Delta staff in Amsterdam informed the pilot there may be unaccounted-for cargo on board,” he said.

    The airport remains on high alert, but other flights are operating normally, he said.

    Delta Air Lines Inc. posted a statement on Twitter that read: “We requested rescreening of some cargo on flt 70 in Mumbai. Paxs deplaned safely & we are working with authorities.”

    Passengers were asked to remain at the airport until all luggage and cargo searches are complete, said Rohit Sharma, who was outside the airport waiting for a relative who was on the flight.

    Two package bombs sent via air freight from Yemen to the United States were found in Britain and the United Arab Emirates last week. One was diffused just 17 minutes before it was set to detonate, according to the French interior minister.

  244. Stocks Surge With Dow Closing Up 220 Points

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    I guess Wall Street is happy to see Barry’s wings clipped.

  245. JanH
    November 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Thank you… My father who served under General Patton and his Third Army, I salute you, my brother in Vietnam, I salute you, and miss you so very much, for my Uncle Bob who served in Korea, I salute you, Uncle Freedy in the Navy WW2, I salute you, Uncle Ben in WWI, I salute you, my nephew in Iraq and Afghanistan, I salute you. I thank each and everyone of you for your precious gift of freedom and selfless acts of courage.

    I thank all our military who have served, who continue to serve, and who will continue to serve, so the sound of freedom rings for eternity for this greatest of Countries…and the World

  246. Shadowfax
    November 4th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    Quite the vacation spot….

    MUMBAI, India — A Delta flight landed at Mumbai on Thursday night after suspicious cargo was reported on board.
    *************

    Don’t worry, it was MeChelle…they haven’t seen anything like her before

  247. “My father who served under General Patton and his Third Army, I salute you, my brother in Vietnam, I salute you, and miss you so very much, for my Uncle Bob who served in Korea, I salute you, Uncle Freedy in the Navy WW2, I salute you, Uncle Ben in WWI, I salute you, my nephew in Iraq and Afghanistan, I salute you. I thank each and everyone of you for your precious gift of freedom and selfless acts of courage.

    I thank all our military who have served, who continue to serve, and who will continue to serve, so the sound of freedom rings for eternity for this greatest of Countries…and the World”

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    Amen. We must never forget.

  248. From AOL headlines….this never happens…the winds have changed
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    Palin Wracks Up Winning Midterm Stats

    There were big defeats like O’Donnell and Angle, but Palin tallied 62 wins vs. 23 losses with 7 races undecided.
    Victories that could help her in 2012

  249. gonzotx
    November 4th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    JanH
    November 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Thank you… My father who served under General Patton and his Third Army, I salute you, my brother in Vietnam, I salute you, and miss you so very much, for my Uncle Bob who served in Korea, I salute you, Uncle Freedy in the Navy WW2, I salute you, Uncle Ben in WWI, I salute you, my nephew in Iraq and Afghanistan, I salute you. I thank each and everyone of you for your precious gift of freedom and selfless acts of courage.

    I thank all our military who have served, who continue to serve, and who will continue to serve, so the sound of freedom rings for eternity for this greatest of Countries…and the World
    ____________________________

    gonzotx,

    Great posts today, the above and the one on AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!!!!

    I think it’s a good idea to perpetuate your theme:

    My father for serving in Korea, I salute you.
    My father-in-law for serving in Korea and Vietnam, I salute you.
    My nephew for preparing to serve somewhere in the Middle East, I salute you.

  250. Shadowfax,
    I know what you mean about being bored…I’m thinking “OK, now what?”
    I think I’m going to have to turn off Fox…they are talking about another Reagan being born for 2012′ and all I’m thinking is that we need “Mrs. FDR”, Hillary Clinton.
    Well we need another assignment admin!

  251. Looks like the fix is in…..Pat Quinn declared winner of Illinois Gov race.

    Kirk must have been to far ahead for them to fix it.

  252. I know confloyd, now that the Rethugs have balanced the power for the next 2 years, I don’t know how much I will be able to stand Fox news. I love Greta, because she deals with both sides, interviews interesting folks and hammers both sides…but those marching around with the yellow flag with a snake on it, make my skin crawl.

    Honestly, there will probably be little going on in Congress except for minor changes, maybe, God willing some real investigations on O’corruption, and the politics of all the nitwits running in 2012.

    If Hillary doesn’t oppose Barry in 2012 it will be more of the same old, get the rats out game, 2016 is too far away.

  253. Shadowfax, you just know Bambi won’t be able to resist stirring it up. He has a victim complex, if as I suspect he goes on a revenge mission against the republicans, this will an implosion on an epic scale.

  254. moon

    I have a feeling that Barry may find some other job instead of running again. I don’t think he and MO are having fun any longer.

    Maybe his sports bros will offer him something.

  255. I tell this trip is just weird…all this money and security. What did they do when Hillary was over there? Give her two security guards without guns???LOL!

  256. Obama can not handle rejection, what i suspect will happen is the Obama’s will say “to hell with it”, not run again and pursue a scorched earth policy against the Republicans and against the Clintons.

    He will use the last 2 years to do whatever the hell he pleases leaving a mess for the republicans and a poison chalice for Hillary.

    Its classic rejection material.

    The next 3 months will tell us what we need to know. The machine has to be in place, Obama only has at most i say 2 months to decide if he is going to run again.

    Come January 2011, we’ll know.

  257. Lots of pretty funny conspiracy theories out there on the net about this trip. Glenn Beck is of coarse talking about how much its costing and why he needs to go since its been cancelled twice before.

    Lets hope this is his final hoorah and then he comes home and retires immediately!

  258. Now lets see how many ousted senators and congressmen get handed the crap jobs everyone has left the administration.

  259. but those marching around with the yellow flag with a snake on it, make my skin crawl.
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    That would be me and those guys they represent from the Texas Independence…

  260. moononpluto
    November 4th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
    a bomb proof tunnel…..seriously wtf.
    **************

    Weird they would let everyone know. What’s up with that?

  261. alloutin10
    November 4th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    It is so little for those who gave so much, but it feels good doesn’t it?

  262. gonzotx
    November 4th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    You Go Girl! Exceptional post.

    Thank you, gonzo for standing up for us… My blood is boiling right now and I need to cool off before I respond.

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