Mistake In ’08, Part VII – Chris Hughes, Jerry Brown, Jon Favreau, Barack Obama And The Party Of Women Haters

When is a clue a clue? When does the obvious become the obvious? How many times must a wo/man turn her/his head pretending s/he just doesn’t see? The answer my friend is not blowing in the wind, it is spitting us in the face!

Remember Jon Favreau, Obama’s not fired, but instead promoted to White House top speechwriter, groping, along with another Obama fratboy creep a cardboard cutout of Hillary Ciinton?

Remember Obama’s top internet guy, 24 year old Chris Hughes? Hughes was “one of four founders of Facebook”. This week we learn, via Aaron Sorkin as he defends the woman hate displayed in his latest film about the founding of Facebook, about Chris Hughes and his frat-boy friends:

“It’s not hard to understand how bright women could be appalled by what they saw in the movie but you have to understand that that was the very specific world I was writing about. Women are both prizes [and] equal. Mark’s blogging that we hear in voiceover as he drinks, hacks, creates Facemash and dreams of the kind of party he’s sure he’s missing, came directly from Mark’s blog. … Facebook was born during a night of incredibly misogyny. The idea of comparing women to farm animals, and then to each other, based on their looks and then publicly ranking them. …

More generally, I was writing about a very angry and deeply misogynistic group of people. These aren’t the cuddly nerds we made movies about in the 80’s. They’re very angry that the cheerleader still wants to go out with the quarterback instead of the men (boys) who are running the universe right now. The women they surround themselves with aren’t women who challenge them (and frankly, no woman who could challenge them would be interested in being anywhere near them.)”

Chris Hughes, co-founder of Facebook

“…went to boarding school at Andover, where he joined the Democratic Club and the student government. In the fall of 2002, he went to Harvard, where he majored in history and literature. He and a roommate, Mark Zuckerberg — now the chief executive of Facebook — shared a room that was “just about as small as my cubby at work is these days,” Mr. Hughes said.”

Now do you get it? Misogynist Hughes joined his fellow women haters at the Obama campaign because like goes to like. Creeps of a feather flock together – whether at Harvard or now at Obama’s Dimocratic Party. “Obama did not fire Favreau because they both harbor a full share of sexism and misogyny.”

When is a frackin’ clue a frackin’ clue? Jerry Brown attempted to become president by smearing working woman Hillary Clinton. Now, someone in his campaign, possibly his wife, suggested in an overheard conversation that Brown call Meg Whitman a “WHORE”. Many are making twisted excuses for “WHORE”.

Why was the “call her a WHORE” suggestion made in the overheard Brown campaign strategy session? Anyone who actually desires an honest answer to that question has to read our article from late last month:

“This past Wednesday USA Today published an almost universally ignored article which demands attention from all Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin supporters. As we Hillary Clinton supporters know, sexism and misogyny as political attacks are extremely effective:

“Calling a female candidate such sexist names as “ice queen” and “mean girl” significantly undercuts her political standing, a new study of voter attitudes finds, doing more harm than gender-neutral criticism based solely on her policy positions and actions.

Harder-edged attacks, such as referring to her as a prostitute, were equally damaging among voters, according to research commissioned by a non-partisan coalition of women’s advocacy groups.

The survey said the advice often given to women — to ignore the attacks rather than risk giving them more attention or legitimacy — turns out to be wrong. In the study, responding directly helped the female candidate regain lost ground and cost her opponent support.”

Mainline “women’s advocacy groups” (think NARAL which supported John Edwards! then Barack Obama) stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back or disappeared during the primaries. Phony women advocates like Oprah Winfrey (who voted skin color not character) likewise proved either hapless or treacherous. Neither Hillary nor Sarah Palin should expect decency or support from mainline women’s groups.”

Get it now? Poll news comes out confirming yet again that shouting RACIST WHORE! destroys a woman in a political campaign and a short while later “WHORE!” is heard from Jerry Brown’s advisers. The “WHORE!” strategy was considered because it is a killer slur for a woman political candidate. More from our few weeks old article:

Many of these “women’s advocacy groups” betrayed their constituents (yup Gay and other organizations were/are equally treacherous to their own too) and went with Obama-come-lately rather than a tried and true and effective friend. Now these dolts are “stunned”:

“I was stunned at the magnitude of the effect of even mild sexism,” says Celinda Lake, a Democratic pollster who conducted the survey. “Right now campaigns tend to be silent and try to tough it out, and this really opens up a whole new strategy of responding.”

The groups that sponsored the research are the Women’s Media Center, the WCF Foundation and Political Parity. Thursday, they will announce a joint initiative called “Name It. Change It” designed to monitor and respond to sexism against female candidates in the media.

Siobhan “Sam” Bennett, president of WCF, says demeaning or belittling language routinely afflicts women in both parties, from Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008 to Republican Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell of Delaware now.”

We wrote at the time that we expected absolutely nothing from “Name It. Change It.” We have thus far been proven right. The slight consolation is that a few individuals are waking up. Democrat Kirsten Powers:

“The Jerry Brown campaign’s “whore” comment wasn’t the first to slur against a Republican woman. And look where the attacks are coming from—progressives and liberal women.

What about saying that she’s a whore?

No, I wasn’t eavesdropping on a Duke fraternity meeting. This was the suggestion of an aide to Democrat Jerry Brown on how to deal with his GOP rival for the California governorship, Meg Whitman.

Brown’s response? “Well I’m going to use that.”

When is a frackin’ clue a frackin’ clue? The sexism and misogyny, as the “creative class” Big Blog Boys love to say is “a feature, not a bug“. More from Powers:

“Once a tape of the conversation was leaked, the Brown campaign apologized.

While we, sadly, are all too familiar with the casual misogynistic comment, what perhaps is more surprising is where these slurs lately have been coming from—progressive bastions like the Brown camp, and liberal women.

Last month, liberal talk show host Stephanie Miller laughed uproariously when a female guest on her show said that if she ever met Michelle Malkin, “I would kick [her] right in the nuts,” and warned, “Wear a cup, lady.”

Charming.

Or how about this: “You have to lift their skirts to find out if they are women. You sure can’t find out by how they vote.” This is what Democratic Rep. Janis Baird Sontany of Nashville said earlier this year of her female GOP colleagues.

Or this: “Sarah Palin may be a lady, but she ain’t no woman,” as Cinta Wilson wrote during the tsunami of anti-Palin hysteria in 2008. In her Salon piece, Wilson went on to refer to the Alaska governor as a “Christian Stepford wife in a ‘sexy librarian’ costume” and the GOP’s “hardcore pornographic centerfold spread.”

It comes from the coasts, from the most “liberal” “progressive” “creative class” boys and girls:

Who needs misogynist men when liberal women will do the job for you, often sounding that shopworn theme that women GOP candidates are somehow inauthentic women?

Palin, of course, has been the target of many such smears. She was derided as, “Bush in a skirt” on Huffington Post, and at The Washington Post, Wendy Doniger blogged of then-VP candidate Palin: “Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman.”

The Big Blog Boys:

Not that liberal men are much better.

Ann Coulter is often referred to as “Mann-coulter” on political blogs in an effort to de-feminize her. And MSNBC’s Keith Olberman once referred to Malkin as a “mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick.”

In a Salon column last month headlined “Forget about the tea party—what about the crumpets?” Gene Lyons wrote that, “The most entertaining aspect of the 2010 election season has been the rise of the right-wing cuties—political celebrities whose main qualification is looking terrific on television. From where I sit, in a comfortable chair in front of the tube, the GOP Cupcake Factor has enlivened an otherwise dreary campaign season.”

You, Sir, are a pig.

Recall when balding David Shuster had his “pimped out” moment smearing Chelsea Clinton?:

“How would David Shuster like it if we started calling his wife a whore? How would David Shuster like it if we demeaned his, if any, children? Perhaps David Shuster would prefer us to restrict ourselves to personal insults about his bald spot – which he tries so hard to hide.

There is a bald pattern of behavior at NBC and MSNBC of Clinton hating that goes back at least a decade.”

The sexism and misogyny is so deeply embedded in the society that many women don’t even recognize sexism and misogyny anymore. But in political strategy dens it is recognized and used as a weapon. Long ago African-Americans engaged in degrees of self-hatred and self-loathing. That behavior was fought with a “Black Is Beautiful” campaign intended to expose and replace that self-loathing with affirmative narratives.

Gay Americans have less successfully attempted to cleverly corrupt insults such as “Queer” into an affirmatively defiant stance and gave birth to “Gay Pride”. Women however debase themselves with pictures of Barack Obama captioned “This is what a feminist looks like.” Women such as Elizabeth Edwards debase themselves and insult the cerebrally functioning by declaring that her hubby was a better advocate for women than the woman he was running against. [Ditto NARAL, Kate Michelman, Frances Kissiling, and the “women’s issues lobby” which donated $352,000 to handsome Johnny.]

As we have repeatedly noted, the sexism and misogyny is The Shame Of The Democratic Left.

Now that the historically unprecedented Mistake In ’08 (see earlier installments of Mistake In ’08 HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE) has become apparent to all but the Hopium sedated, Obama Dimocrats are concerned. But the concern is about Obama Dimocrats who happen to be women, not about women themselves. Women are walking away from the Obama Dimocratic Party of Women Hate:

“While conservatives are already celebrating the “Year of the Republican Woman,” thanks to a record number of GOP female candidates for Congress, Democrats fear the opposite trend: the year of the women’s wipeout.

Three Democratic women first elected to Congress in 1992 — the original “Year of the Woman” — are at risk. Nearly a quarter of the 56 female Democrats in the House are considered vulnerable, including once rising stars like Ann Kirkpatrick of Arizona, Betsy Markey of Colorado and Mary Jo Kilroy of Ohio.”

Elections have consequences and when the Democratic Party leadership worked behind closed doors to exploit sexism and misogyny to destroy a qualified women running for president – the consequences are coming home to roost.

In 2008 women like Rebecca Traister could not see the sexism and misogyny – or at least speak out against it. Traister supported Barack Obama. Now that she is selling a book about women in the 2008 campaign Traister opens her peepers to see the sexism and misogyny deployed in the Obama health scam. Only now does book selling Traister see the treachery, sexism and misogyny from the Democratic Left:

“When Hillary won New Hampshire, she became the first woman in American history to win a primary. I mean, I sort of knew that, of course, what she was doing was historic. But this was a massive thing, a change in 220 years of presidential history. I didn’t know, and it was my job to know. [snip]

The thing that had a radicalizing impact on me began after [Hillary lost in] Iowa. Because there was this pile-on, and to me it was mind-bending. It was coming often from people on the left. It was like something they had been keeping inside as they bit their tongues and covered this woman who had the gall to be the front-runner and the “inevitable” candidate, which was the word that they threw out there. And finally she had shown weakness, and they were just going nuts.”

Traister is too late to the “see the party for what it really is” party.

“Left-leaning lady trouble is ironic, since by many measures women are the Democratic Party—or at least 57 percent of it in the 2008 election. Moreover, the party has long been tagged as feminine: focused on purportedly soft concerns like healthcare, reproductive rights, social programs and the economy, as opposed to the more testicular national security obsessions of Republicans. Twenty-five of the thirty-eight female senators in history have been Democrats, and sixty-nine of the ninety Congressional seats currently held by women belong to Democrats. As Stephanie Schriock, head of EMILY’s List, says, “I think the Democratic Party strives to be a party of fairness and equal opportunity; that can be seen in the Democratic structure itself. You have a chair and vice chair, and in every state one has to be a man and one has to be a woman.”

The gender quotas, (usually) female-friendly policy priorities and slowly but steadily improving stats are all terrific. So why are we not hearing the party own its commitment to women’s progress by lending full-throated support to its female candidates? Democrats were recently forced to cough up the baleful statistic that only three of thirteen members of Red to Blue, its battleground district support network, are female. At around the same time, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee backed the male candidate, Representative Ed Case, in a special election for a Hawaii House seat, attempting to push his female opponent, Colleen Hanabusa—endorsed by EMILY’s List, labor unions and both of Hawaii’s senators—out of the race. Although gifted Texan orators Barbara Jordan and Ann Richards have given star-making keynote addresses at the party’s national conventions, Democrats have not put a woman on that particular podium since 1992. And in the six cycles since the history-making nomination of Geraldine Ferraro for the vice presidency, in 1984, not one other woman has been named to the top ticket.

A reluctance to advertise the centrality of women within the Democratic Party has been explained away for years as tactical necessity.

Traister still makes excuses. Instead of exposing the sexism and misogyny she accepts the narrative that Obama Dimocrats have done a great job for women. Traister states that Sarah Palin’s “claims to feminism” ring “false” but does acknowledge the woman power represented by Palin (we’ll add Tea Party women to this phenomenon). Then there is this:

They come to you every four years and say, We need your vote, but never ask for voices and visions,” says Wilson. “If you don’t give people opportunity and power within a system, they don’t stick with you…. It’s time for the party to stop just asking us to vote and say, We want you at the table of power.”

Too late, too late, too late – wake up and smell the testosterone. 2008 is not forgotten. Atavistic memory and documentation gouges at the fake claims of equality and feminism from the Frat Boy Left and Frat Boy White House. Look at Favreau writing the speeches, Hughes organizing the frat boys, Axelrod digging the dirt.

Loot at the National Organization For Women. After Jerry Brown and the “WHORE” comment NOW endorsed, not the woman, but the guy. NOW begged for a firing of the “WHORE” suggester but quickly backed away and called it a “teachable moment” for the future not the recent past. We’ve had enough fake “teachable moments” from Obama and his enablers. What America needs now is to open the eyes and admit the sexism and misogyny lesson of 2008 spitting us right in the face.

If a recent poll is at all to be trusted (it comes from a dubious source) women are beginning to walk away from the Obama Dimocratic Party of Woman Hate:

“The White House may view the last 18 months as historic, racking up a legislative scorecard that includes a $787 billion stimulus package and an overhaul of the health care system.

A majority of women, however, see it as a failure, according to a new poll conducted by Kellyanne Conway for The Kitchen Cabinet, a conservative women’s group.[snip]

Fifty-six percent of women consider the health care reform law a failure, while 29 percent view it as a success, according to the poll.

The economic stimulus package is viewed only slightly more favorably: 53 percent say it was a failure, while 34 percent say it was a success.”

The elderly/senior citizens used to be the “Democratic base” after FDR and Social Security – but in 2008 John McCain won that important demographic. In 2010 Republicans will reap the benefits that comes from that big voting in midterms demographic. Obama Dimocrats dumped the always voting senior demographic for the easily diverted young white urban liberal demographic.

Now women threaten to go the way of seniors – away from Obama’s Dimocrats:

“…their 2008 miracle voters—the young and the nonwhite—are so not interested in picking the Congress as they were in picking the president.

I hate to be a (Democratic) party pooper, but here’s the next piece of bad news. Guess who’s not coming out to vote? White women. The enthusiasm among all women is down, but Gallup shows that white women are the least enthusiastic of all the major demographic groups.” [snip]

Gallup conducted its regular weekly survey of 1,750 adults (1,500 registered voters)—then, for the period between August 1 and September 22, ran the data controlling for race and gender. The result: A dismal 27 percent of white female registered voters expressed excitement about the contest, compared to 36 percent of black men and women and 40 percent of white men. It is fair to say that the white women’s numbers are not depressed by indifference among the almost entirely white Republican women. At least in June, Gallup was finding that the Republican women were the most enthusiastic of the registered female voters. It’s the independent women (21 percent!) and the Democratic women (24 percent) who aren’t revved up about the coming midterms. [snip]

Remember the PUMAs, whose motto was Party Unity My Ass? They were the supposedly angry white women (the horror) so pissed off by Hillary Clinton’s defeat they were going elect John McCain? The PUMAs were sort of lost in the pixie dust storm of the Obama election. I wonder if we declared them an endangered species too soon? There were glimpses that all might not be well with white women in the exit polls even then. Turnout was up in 2008, but white women as a percentage of the electorate shrank a couple of points. The percentage of white men stayed the same, and nonwhites, both men and women, voted in larger percentages in 2008 than 2004.”

Who needs them? They’re White! They’re Women!

“Here’s why white women matter. Pundits like the authors of The Emerging Democratic Majority predict that a growing nonwhite population—combined with the clear-sighted fealty of the big-brained voters of the postindustrial economy (read, young white guys in chinos) and the conventional gender gap—means that Republicans would soon lose their electoral dominance. But the 2010 election seems to indicate their predictions were either wrong or way premature. Obama’s majorities were probably more anomalous than transformative: a fragile coalition of marginally less rabid white men, a few more dutiful white women, and overwhelming nonwhite support. [snip]

But that combination of holding Democratic losses among whites and unprecedented support among nonwhites did not even last two years. In June 2010, when Gallup combined the preferences of the 25 percent of the registered voter sample who are nonwhite with the 75 percent who are white, the Democratic losses among white voters had gone up and the support among nonwhites had gone down so much that the Democrats ended up trailing the Republicans overall 47 percent to 45 percent.

Until the demographics shift, decades from now, Democrats need more reliable white votes.”



“Young white guys in chinos”, Obama’s real base are the Facebook Boys who’s hatred of women cannot be hidden:

“Amid the frenzy, Stephen Colbert asked what few had observed: What about “the ladies in the film”? In his interview with Sorkin on Sept. 30, Colbert mentioned Erica, Zuckerberg’s “super smart” (ex-)girlfriend, played by Rooney Mara, then said, mischievously: “The other ladies in the movie don’t have as much to say, because they’re high or drunk or [bleep]ing some guys in the bathroom. Why are there no other women of any substance in the movie?

As we noted earlier, Sorkin has answered the question this week posed to him by Colbert: sexism and misogyny.

In the film The Social Network the Obama base of sexists and misogyny is exposed for all the world to see but few want to say “sexism and misogyny”:

“But Colbert was right. Women in the movie—apart from the lawyer and Erica, who sets the stage and disappears—are less prizes than they are props, buxom extras literally bussed in to fill the roles of doting groupies, vengeful sluts, or dumpy, feminist killjoys. They are foils for the male characters, who in turn are cruel or indifferent to them. (In a somewhat ironic turn of events, former Harvard President Larry Summers is perhaps the only man in the movie portrayed both as solicitous and respectful of a woman’s opinion.)”



Understand now why Republicans are making so many inroads with women? At conservative websites the talk is all about women – strong women – not the type Obama’s frat-boys admire:

“Last week, I attended the Smart Girl Summit in Washington, D.C.  The conference was filled with women of strength, of brains, of beauty and of fierce resolve.  Women from all walks of life who came together, fighting and trying to do what is best for their children and this country.  But, I was struck by something else; to the Left, these women are either whores or some creepy new invention of faux women, worthy of only mocking and ridicule.

Many told of times where they had been, like I have, called “gender traitors” or not real women. I’ve been called a dumb tart, just a rack, and told “I have better meat for her mouth.” I’ve been accused of being a wholly owned subsidiary of male dominated culture, whatever that means. We dumb tarts can’t seem to figure out things like that.

Every woman I met laughed such things off. That part didn’t shock me. See, we don’t relish victim-hood. We are also secure and comfortable in our own skins, breasts and fancy wombs and all. But, another reason it is laughed off did bother me. Because we are “used to it.”  The thing is, we shouldn’t be. It shouldn’t be happening. Yet, it does. Over and over.

Kirsten Powers attended the panel I was on, called Feminism 2.0, the New Face of Feminism, with Jenn Q. Public and Pamela Gorman, moderated by Adrienne Royer. While Kirsten is an unabashed liberal and likely disagrees with us on most policy points, she listened and understood the vile hatred toward conservative women that comes out of the Left. Her article at the Daily Beast today reflects that. She touched on some examples, including the most recent one whereby Jerry Brown called Meg Whitman “a whore.”  She’s a dame, you see. Thus, anything concerning financial things, which women can’t possibly understand, is whore-y. Am I right, fellas?”

Sadly the pawns in the war on women are often other women who are so imprisoned in a worldview deeply invested in sexism and misogyny they do not see or refuse to see the sexism and misogyny they reproduce (recall supposedly “liberated” Randi Rhodes):

“Jerry Brown isn’t alone. And it isn’t just coming from men. Alleged feminists are some of the worst offenders, spewing sexist and outright misogynistic garbage at conservative women.”

Yes, the sexism and misogyny comes from the Big Blog Boys and the Facebook frat brats but it also comes from women. Recall our great liberal Randi Rhodes when she, in the service of Barack Obama and the boys, called Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton “f*ucking WHORES”, “a big f*ucking WHORE”.



Yeah, that “WHORES” slam again.

Our other great liberal heroine Jeanne Garafalo was outraged on the liberal Sam Seder show when Rhodes was fired. Randi Rhodes graduated to calling Governor Sarah Palin the type of woman who sleeps with teenage boys.



As we wrote at the time the great liberals at DailyKooks did their bit to smear Hillary Clinton in 2008:

“Sometime in the last decade, her liberal foes evidently decided that whole “malevolent, power-mad shrew” thing sounded pretty good, too.

Throughout the course of the Democratic primary, it was neatly repackaged as “wildly ambitious person who will do anything in her voracious quest to win including destroying the Democratic Party while cackling monstrously and whose womanness totally doesn’t matter we swear.” The classic misogynist charge once used against Clinton by the vast right-wing conspiracy became the rallying cry of large swaths of the erstwhile reality-based community.

Without a hint of irony.

Clinton was suddenly a bitch, a witch, the Queen of Hearts “who has parasitically attached herself to the legacy and record of” her husband, the screech on the blackboard with an elitist trademark laugh. “Hitlery,” “Hildebeast,” and “Billary” – staples of 1990s criticisms of the feminist First Lady have returned with a vengeance. She was a monster, the devil in a pantsuit, targeted with dehumanizing and eliminationist rhetoric to which liberal bloggers used to object when the right used it against liberals, but apparently now consider okay, as long as it’s only directed at a candidate they don’t like.

In a spectacular ballet of aggressive misogyny, attacks on Clinton’s femaleness masquerading as critiques of Clinton’s policies and campaign failures (separate altogether from legitimate critiques of Clinton’s policies and campaign failures), and indifference to the former, the liberal blogosphere – once a proud conglomeration of feisty challengers to Republican memes – embraced as its own one of the most pernicious strategies of the 1990s anti-Clinton conservatives.[snip]

One diarist on Daily Kos even provided a helpful guide to all the scandals of the Clinton years, with ratings from one to 10 based on scandal level and the level of Hillary Clinton’s involvement. The “Level of Scandal” for some of the scandals listed is artificially inflated by the diarist, JohnKWilson (author of a book on Obama…. [snip]

By April, the blogfather Kos himself was agreeing that Clinton wasn’t even to be considered a Democrat anymore.

“It was an indication of how thoroughly the left co-opted the use of the GOP and media-created scandals, to smear Hillary Clinton during the presidential primaries, that the Republicans weren’t even mentioning them much anymore, content to let the Left do its dirty work. There was little reason for GOP operatives to get their hands dirty reviving the villainous First Lady Macbeth caricature, when many liberals were happy to do it for them. [snip]

And Randi Rhodes – a “progressive talk radio personality” – fresh from calling Clinton a “fucking whore,” fanned the same flames when she announced fearing for her life after delivering the insult to someone who routinely has her enemies whacked.

“Billary”, the two-headed monster created by the rightwing to demonize the “two-for-one” presidency of Bill Clinton and his feminist, advisor wife Hillary Clinton, also stumbled out of its grave, given new life by liberals who defended the Clintons against the very same attack when it was her being used against him during his administration, but now found it politically expedient to use him against her. [snip]

Even the architect of many of the most significant smears against the Clintons during the 1990s, Richard Mellon Scaife, had apparently dropped his campaign against them. Indeed, Scaife, the publisher of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, inserted himself into the paper’s editorial board’s interview with Clinton while she was campaigning in the crucial state of Pennsylvania and walked out impressed – so impressed that the paper endorsed her.

Not that this satisfied the Democratic critics of Clinton, though – if anything, the howls of outrage that she would sit down with Scaife after what he’d done only got louder. [snip]

Hyperventilated one Daily Kos diarist: “This is a bigger story than if Bill Clinton and Ken Starr decided to become best friends forever. This is like OJ and the Goldman family developing an alliance.”

Other sources of the attacks of the 1990s found fresh credibility, as long as they were smearing the Clintons.

Those were our friends before 2008.

As the Mistake In ’08 becomes clearer every day, is it any wonder that women are beginning to walk away or stay away from the Party of Women Hate – Obama’s Dimocratic Party?

Senior citizens walked away from the Obama Dimocratic Party in 2008 and continue to walk away in 2010. Women are getting a clue too. Men are getting a clue. Barack Obama and his party of women hate must be destroyed in November 2010. No amount of prayers for or to Barack will help. If the party does not reject Obama and his fellow sexists and the misogynists, men and women, the destruction must continue into 2012 as well.

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637 thoughts on “Mistake In ’08, Part VII – Chris Hughes, Jerry Brown, Jon Favreau, Barack Obama And The Party Of Women Haters

  1. Yes, the conversative women jumped more to the defense of Palin, than the liberal women did of any women friend or foe.

  2. “Women are both prizes [and] equal.”

    I’d like to see what type of rabbit you’d have to pull out of the hat for THIS to be a possibility.

  3. Uppity Woman discusses a relevant website:

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/herlocaust-what-else-do-you-call-global-crimes-against-women-girls/

    I’d like to introduce you all to Herlocaust, a website dedicated to documenting the dizzying number of ongoing Global crimes against women and girls — While The Band Plays On.

    At first I was a bit startled by the title. Then I found my peace at the website and Understood. What else do you call the systematic worldwide torture, murder, and brutal mental and physical subjugation of women?

  4. It’s really disgusting how Women still don”t get it. So few are waking up. i talk to the masses here in Austin and they are still drinking the koolaid. Better to be thought of as ‘COOL’ than a true feminist.’

    It’s no wonder young girls dress like woman of the night. it’s whats selling…guess it always has. men use to use the excuse that woman shouldn’t be allowed to vote because they wanted to protect us. From what, stupidity? Now they just dress up our little girls like little sex objects and the sa part of it, the women are in on the joke, but the joke is on them.

    I am going to repost this article and video because it relates to the theme….

    BECAUSE I CAN NEVER GET ENOUGH OF THE “HOLY” ISLAM TEACHINGS..THIS ONES FOR ALL OF YOU THAT THINK ISLAM SHOULD BE TOLERATED AND THE 9/11 MOSQUE…WELL, UP YOURS IS ALL I CAN SAY!
    ************

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zithyya_jF8&feature=player_embedded

    Tolerance and Diversity: Teaching Girls That Misogyny And Beatings Are An Honor
    Posted by Lori Ziganto (Profile)
    Wednesday, October 13th at 9:31PM EDT
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    “Allah honored wives by instating the punishment of beatings.” So said Cleric Sa’d Arafat earlier this year. Last month, a Wellesley, Massachusetts public school took a trip to a mosque, where the school children were taught to pray to that same Allah.

    The result is stunning: an unabashed exercise in Islamic dawa, the “call to Islam” and the manner by which the Brotherhood’s spiritual guide, Yusuf Qaradawi, promises that Islam will “conquer America” and “conquer Europe.” Qaradawi — wonder of wonders — is a trustee of the Roxbury mosque (although he is banned from the U.S. for sanctioning terrorism). As the video relates, “Dawa Net,” one Islamic organization that instructs on how to use the schools to inculcate the young, explains that public schools in America are “fertile grounds where the seeds of Islam can be sowed inside the hearts of non-Muslim students.”

    Well, except for the icky girls. Cooties, and all. They were not allowed to take part in the “tolerance” indoctrination. Have to teach these girls how to show respect! And teach them a little about the benefits of misogynistic subjugation in the Muslim world, right? See, they were shockingly told – as they were shuttled off to an area away from males – that Islam is “pro-women” and“Islam was actually very advanced in terms of recognizing women’s rights.” They were also told this:

    At the time of the Prophet Muhammad, women were allowed to express their opinions and vote. In this country, women didn’t gain that right until less than a hundred years ago.

    Of course. Blame America and try to make some sort of sick moral relativism argument. What’s the matter with you rube Islamophobes? Muhammad let women vote and express their opinions. Of course, they were then beaten for them, but still. In Islam, it is an honor to be beaten by your husband! There is even etiquette and stuff. We honor women by beating the crap out of them. Sheesh!

    I mean, just let the cleric S’ad Arafat explain further:

    The full and highly disturbing transcript can be read here, but let’s hit some of the lowlights, shall we?
    Cleric Sa’d Arafat: The Prophet Muhammad said: “Don’t beat her in the face, and do not maker her ugly.” See how she is honored. If the husband beats his wife, he must not beat her in the face. Even when he beats her, he must not curse her. This is incredible!

    HE beats her in order to discipline her. In addition, there must not be more than ten beatings, and he must not break her bones, injure her, break her teeth, or poke her in the eye.

    There is a beating etiquette. If he beats to discipline her, he must not raise his hand high. He must beat her from the chest level. All these things honor the woman. She is in need of disciplines.

    It’s totally okay, you see – there’s etiquette! Oh, it’s fine – sure you can beat me. Just make sure you don’t curse me at the same time and keep your hands at chest level only. Otherwise, that would be bad.

    It’s actually more than fine; it honors the wife. She should be proud, if beaten. You know, he only hits you because he loves you. Plus, it’s not like he hit your face and made you “ugly” or used a long rod which would totally be disrespectful. Unlike a nice respectful beating with a short rod.

    He then goes on to inform men of when is the proper time (it’s all about the etiquette) to beat their wives:

    These are all choices made during the process, but beatings are allowed only as a last resort. The honoring of the wife in Islam is also evident in the fact that the punishment of beating is permissible in one case only: when she refuses to sleep with him.

    Commentator: When she refuses to sleep with him?

    Cleric Sa’d Arafat: Yes, because where else could the husband go? He wants her, but she refuses. He should begin with admonishment and threats,

    Commentator: Allow me to repeat this, A man cannot beat his wife over food or drink.

    Cleric Sa’d Arafat: Beating are permitted only in this case, which the husband cannot do without.

    Isn’t it good to know that if your wife doesn’t feel like letting you “hit that” one night, you can simply hit her. I mean, really, you would dishonor her if you did not hit her. Oh, the shame!

    You know what actually is shameful? The fact that some want us to teach our children to accept this, because it would be intolerant and meany pants if we dare to point out anything that doesn’t fall in line with the Religion of Peace ™ meme. American citizens are demonized as biased and hateful if even bringing up the subject. Those who not only subjugate women, but also wish to kill us receive apologies. The media frantically avoids perceived “profiling”, including avoiding the use of the word Islam at all costs in any negative stories, out of the insane fear of looking non-politically correct.

    We are instead to pretend that Islam is super awesome always and stick our fingers in our ears singing la-la-la as the abuse of Muslim women continues. Because, tolerance. Well, guess what? Barbarism should not be tolerated nor should it be “appeased.” Silence is not just consent when it comes to such wrongs; it makes one complicit in their perpetuation.

    While leftist feminists (femisogynists) continue to screech about perceived systematic misogyny in America, all made up out of whole cloth, we are encouraged to teach our daughters to respect Islam and Sharia Law. We are expected to worship at the altar of Better Than You ™ multiculturalism. And we are to ignore the actual oppression and subjugation of women in the Muslim world – and of Muslim women here in America. Because, George W. Bush. And oil or something.

    I refuse to do so. As do many strong conservative women and men. Including George W. Bush. It is he who is continuing to aid the women in the Middle East who are truly oppressed and abused. The George W. Bush Institute has a women’s initiative, chaired by Mrs. Laura Bush, that is focusing on empowering women in the Middle East, where it is desperately needed.

    I won’t, however, hold my breath and wait for N.O.W. or any of their fellow sister travelers to weigh in. They are too busy demonizing American conservative women and endorsing the men who call them whores.

    —–

    Cross-posted from NewsReal

  5. Wow, admin! Congratulations.

    2008 primary (the real GE) is the story of middle aged men who loathed Hillary for her intelligence and power and of pock-marked adolescent men like the Facebook founders and blogger boys who loathed all women because they could not get laid (the said middle aged men may not have much luck in that department either). What a depraved and craven story for America. And of course they were helped and enabled by toothless women some of whom deluded themselves that they are above gender-issues (like Althouse) and others were plain ignorant and cowardly.

  6. I’ll just chime in with my own personal experience. Despite my years-long liberalism, there is a dirty little secret that I have tried to ignore as irrelevant, but I’ll confess it here:

    By and large, conservative men in my life that I have PERSONALLY known treat women much much better than the liberal men I’ve known. Hands down. Especially blue-collar conservative men. I have encountered more misogyny from lefty men than I have ever encountered from conservative men. Take it for what it’s worth, merely anecdotal and my personal experience, but it’s the truth. Liberal men mouth their “feminist” talking points, but their behavior is otherwise. When it comes to ACTIONS, and interactions, conservative men have treated me with more respect than liberal men have. By a mile.

  7. HfT, you are reminding me of my brothers — one who went all-out for Barky who has lived most of his life resentful for not banging a supermodel, and the other who went all-out for McCain and Palin who has no time for that. I remember him talking one time about some asshole guy who asked him why he wasn’t getting himself a cute little mail-order sex toy; my brother lived in Saudi Arabia for a while and, not to put too fine a point on it, looks like a combination of JFK Jr. and Ioan Gruffudd. I still remember my big-mouthed, obnoxious brother’s very genuine response of visceral disgust. “Because I don’t want want no fucking Barbie doll, that shit’s sick. I want a woman, a human being.” He doesn’t self-censor much.

    And he’s the one who voted for McCain and Palin.

  8. Yep, Janis. Conservative men I have known are less careful about being PC in all their speech – they are more likely to openly tell an ostensibly sexist joke, for instance. (A liberal guy will still tell it, he’s just sneakier and will do it behind women’s backs.)

    But when it comes to how they actually think and feel and act about women in their daily lives, I’ve found less scorn and “she’s just a piece of ass” attitude among non-liberal men. When they are not just joking around, conservative men are less likely, in my experience, to merely view women as objects, eye candy, or trophies. They might tell the same joke, but there is no real gut-level condescension and resentment underneath it, if that makes sense.

  9. The smear from the so called “journalist”. Below was my response to his article I sent
    ***************

    How Christine O’Donnell Should Have Answered the Supreme Court Question

    ANALYSIS BY
    MATT LEWIS
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    All things considered, Delaware GOP senate candidate Christine O’Donnell did well during Wednesday night’s debate with Democrat Chris Coons. (My colleague Jill Lawrence has a detailed report.) The stakes were high (why was CNN nationally broadcasting a debate for a race that isn’t terribly close, anyway?), and she largely held her own.

    But if there was one moment when she stumbled badly, it was when O’Donnell could not name a single recent Supreme Court decision that she disagrees with.

    The problem, of course, is that this plays into perceptions about O’Donnell’s competence and experience — and perhaps also reinforces negative comparisons to Sarah Palin (who also struggled with this question).

    Here’s a brief transcript of the most pertinent parts:
    NANCY KARIBJANIAN: What opinions, of late, that have come from our high court, do you most object to?
    O’DONNELL: Oh, gosh. Um, give me a specific one. I’m sorry.
    KARIBJANIAN: Actually, I can’t, because I need you to tell me which ones you object to.
    O’DONNELL: Um, I’m very sorry, right off the top of my head, I know that there are a lot, but I’ll put it up on my website, I promise you.
    WOLF BLITZER: We know that you disagree with Roe v. Wade.
    O’DONNELL: Yeah, but she said a recent one.
    Anyone who wants to criticize O’Donnell — or her debate preparation — should try being grilled on national television for 90 minutes.

    It’s simply very difficult for any person to master the number of issues that might come up during a debate. There were several times when I was quite impressed with O’Donnell’s answers. It’s also fair to note that because the court currently leans conservative, it is not surprising that there are relatively few high-profile cases that a conservative, such as O’Donnell, would disagree with.

    By the same token, it’s fair to expect a U.S. senator to have a firm grasp on Supreme Court decisions. After all, they do vote to confirm Supreme Court justices, a very serious responsibility.

    Hindsight is 20/20, but it’s worth considering what O’Donnell probably should have said. Or more importantly, what should the next conservative say when asked this question?

    I would suggest two recent cases that O’Donnell might have cited: Kelo v. City of New London and McConnell v. Federal Election Commission.

    Kelo, of course, involves the use of eminent domain to allow government take land from citizens and transfer it for development. Aside from infringing on property rights, conservative opposition to this decision demonstrates how it is wrong to say that conservatives are always on the same side of issues as “big business.”

    McConnell v. FEC upheld the constitutionality of many of the most egregious portions of McCain-Feingold, a law many conservatives believe to be an infringement on the First Amendment.
    Filed Under: Senate, Democrats, Debates, Supreme Court, 2010 Elections, Conservatives, Campaigns, Tea Party, Analysis, Matt Lewis and the News
    **********************

    Really mister Lewis, one question? How about mister Coons pathetic performance despite the obvious bias by the moderators? O’Donnell was debating three people and you know it. I guess the real question here is, ‘HOW MANY JOURNALIST’S DOES IT TAKE TO FLUFF PILLOWS FOR THE DEMOCRACTIC PARTY?”

  10. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/Vox-News/2010/1013/Obama-utters-words-tax-and-spend-liberal.-Republicans-drool

    Around elections, presidential candor – even in limited amounts – can be politically awkward.

    So at a meeting Wednesday morning with reporters, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was at pains to tamp down reaction to comments President Obama made for an interview with the New York Times Magazine that will be distributed this Sunday.

    In the cover story, by reporter Peter Baker, Mr. Obama admits to learning “tactical lessons” in his first two years in office. He let himself look too much like “the same old tax and spend liberal Democrat,” the president said.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSV-VtJfwRw&feature=related

  11. Sent to me by the Tea Party Nation
    ******

    The word treason gets thrown around a lot, but this is one instance where I cannot think of any other word to describe what happened.

    2004 was one of the bloodiest years in Iraq. In late 2004, the battle of Fallujah raged. The United States would suffer some of the heaviest casualties of the Iraq war during this time.

    The America hating group “Code Pink” wanted to establish a “peace camp” at Fallujah. The US military rejected their request for assistance to get to Fallujah and assistance while they were there. The military had legitimate concerns about the $600,000 in cash and goods that were going to be distributed. The military legitimately feared that some of this support would go to insurgents who were killing American marines.

    Enter Barbara Boxer and Henry Waxman. They each wrote letters to the American Embassy in Jordan asking that the Embassy assist Code Pink in its Iraqi adventure. Code Pink went to Iraq in 2004, decrying the war as “killing Iraqi children.” While American soldiers were fighting to liberate Iraq, these people, with Boxer and Waxman, knowingly aiding and abetting them, gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

    Of course Boxer and Waxman do not care. Patriotism for them is a joke. They do not love this country, nor do they care for those who do. The members of Code Pink who went to Iraq in 2004 are traitors and should be tried for treason. The Bush administration did nothing to those who helped the insurgents who killed Americans. Perhaps our next President will have the intestinal fortitude to do something about this. After all, there is no statute of limitations on treason.

    Meanwhile, both Boxer and Waxman are up for reelection this year. The mainstream media ignores their aid to Code Pink as they gave aid and comfort to those trying to kill American soldiers. Some of the alternative media is covering this story. More should. You can find more information at the Daily Caller.

  12. Black Voters Could Sway 20 House Races, Analyst Says
    Updated: 1 hour 15 minutes ago

    BOWIE, Md. (Oct. 14) – On the corner of Collington Road and Route 301, a bright blue poster screams the Democratic Party’s wishful thinking at passing cars: “We’ve got your back President Obama.”

    The poster, not quite big enough to qualify as a billboard, reflects an unspoken bargain between Obama and black voters: He asks, they deliver.

    Last week, Obama asked.

    AP
    Polls indicate many minority voters are discouraged and won’t turn out Nov. 2 as they did for Obama two years ago, yet a solid showing among blacks could still swing several House, Senate and gubernatorial races, according to some analysts.

    Black voters are “strategically located” to impact as many as 20 House races, mostly in Southern states, explained David Bositis, a senior researcher at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, who has analyzed the black electorate for more than two decades. They also could sway more than a dozen Senate and governor’s races, Bositis said.

    “It’s not something where the Democrats and the candidates are going to be out there yelling, ‘We want the black vote,'” Bositis said. “They’re going to work through the black churches, the black media.”

    Bositis said this election could echo midterm elections in 1986, when significant black turnout helped Democrats gain House seats and take control of the Senate, and again in 1998, when Democrats picked up governorships in Alabama, South Carolina and Georgia.

    Both of those elections followed events that resonated with black voters: Jesse Jackson’s historic presidential campaign in 1984 and the GOP effort in 1998 to impeach then-President Bill Clinton.

    Back then, congressional Republicans “were attacking Bill Clinton just like they are attacking Obama right now,” Bositis notes. “And Obama is more popular with African-Americans than Clinton was.”

    While many Democrats are distancing themselves from Obama, the party’s approach with black voters is to make the election about the president and his agenda.

    University of Chicago political scientist Cathy J. Cohen said Democrats hope that by framing the election around the attacks on Obama and racial polarization arising out of the tea party movement, “black voters will mobilize in particular districts so they can tip the balance.”

    “I still think that black people will come out and vote for what they think is the president’s agenda, which is to vote Democratic,” said Cohen, author of a new book on black youth and politics. “A solid black turnout will be fine in some seats. But they need the excitement of 2008.”

    To that end, the Democratic National Committee is spending $2 million on ad buys in African-American media, far more than it spent on such buys in previous midterm elections. The president himself stopped by a White House briefing earlier this week for black bloggers and journalists from black-oriented media. Later this week, he will meet at the White House with the Trotter Group, a group of black newspaper columnists.

    Obama also spoke at an Oct. 7 rally for Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley that drew 7,000 people to historically black Bowie State University. The school, about 20 miles east of Washington, is located in Prince George’s County, Md., which, according to census data, is the nation’s wealthiest majority black county – 65.6 percent black with a median annual household income of $71,696.

    The “got your back” posters stand at several major intersections in Prince George’s, which also is home to Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. “We’ve got your back, we’ve got your back,” the crowd at Bowie State chanted when Obama took the stage with O’Malley and Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown, who is black.

    “What the other side is counting on is that this time around, you’re going to stay home,” Obama told the crowd. “They figure Obama’s not on the ballot, you’re not going to come out and vote. Well, Maryland, you have got to prove them wrong.”

    Whether that message is getting through to enough black Democratic voters to make a difference is an open question.

    Andrew Robb, 47, of Upper Marlboro, Md., said he plans to vote and is not buying into the notion of significant Democratic losses. “It’s my civic duty, and I’m voting Democrat,” Robb said. “The Democrats are going to prevail. I think it’s a lot of hype with the Republicans.”

    But Joyce Walker, 55, of Bowie, also a Democrat, said she feels Democrats “might take a big hit” because many core voters are not fully engaged.

    “Most people, they’re not enthusiastic about the governor’s election. They’re mostly enthusiastic about the president,” said Walker, who does plan to vote on Nov. 2 when O’Malley faces Republican challenger Bob Ehrlich in the governor’s race.

    The 20 House races where black turnout could determine the winner, according to Bositis’ analysis, are in 14 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia

    ************Typical response below****************

    Why is the President asking “black” voters to get out and vote? Why is there a fear that they won’t because there is no “black” candidate running for President? Does this mean that black voters only vote when there is a black candidate on the ballots and not because they are democrat voting for the democratic contender on the ballot? This IS NOTan article that tells the general populace that blacks are no longer racist and voting racist lines. It clearly shows that not only are the black communities as racist as ever, but our President is as well. This is a sad commentary on our nation.

  13. A big Amen on this article.

    Many liberal women are the real traitors to the women’s movement.

    Randi Rhodes is a fine example of a self-absorbed, faux feminist who does more harm than good.

  14. Hmmm……

    Whitney is ‘Whitey’ on some ballots

    October 14, 2010
    BY DAVE McKINNEY Sun-Times Springfield Bureau Chief
    SPRINGFIELD — The last name of Green Party gubernatorial candidate Rich Whitney is misspelled as “Whitey” on electronic-voting machines in nearly two dozen wards — about half in predominantly African-American areas — and election officials said Wednesday the problem cannot be corrected by Election Day.

    The misspelling turned up on touch-screen machines in 23 wards overall. Whitney’s name is spelled correctly on the machines’ initial screens showing all of the candidates’ names, but it is misspelled on review screens that later show a voter his or her choices, said Jim Allen, spokesman for the Chicago Board of Elections.

    “This is a difficult situation. We’ll make the best of it. But the important thing is the name is spelled correctly where it counts, and that’s where people are making the selection,” Allen said.

    Allen said there is not adequate time to reprogram and test machines before Nov. 2. He predicted about 90 percent of the ballots cast that day will be on paper ballots, where Whitney’s name is spelled properly.

    The city election board plans to post a “candidate-neutral” list at polling places, showing the correctly spelled names of all candidates on the ballot, Allen said.

    The snafu, however, has Whitney contemplating legal action to force a fix.

    “I don’t want to be identified as ‘Whitey.’ If this is happening in primarily African-American wards, that’s an even bigger concern,” Whitney told the Chicago Sun-Times. “I don’t know if this is machine politics at play or why this happened.”

    “In any event, whether it is or not, this has to be disconcerting to a voter, and I wonder how this will impact the vote.”

  15. Definitly a push…hope, I hope, is not enough
    *************
    October 13, 2010, 2:42 PM
    White House Meeting for Black Journalists Doesn’t Stay Off-The-Record for Long
    By JEREMY W. PETERS
    The White House is usually quite good at keeping a muzzle on the media after one of its off-the-record sessions with President Obama and senior members of his administration.

    But not this week.

    A group of black bloggers and journalists from outlets like Essence and BET were invited to the White House on Monday for a half-day of policy briefings by the president’s advisers. The White House provided the journalists with an agenda that spelled out the ground rules: the first half of their briefings was to be on background, meaning they could report any information they learned but not attribute it to any specific official; the second half was off the record entirely.

    Still, that did not stop bloggers from writing about the event and, in one case, posting a video of the president’s remarks to the group.

    The blog ConcreteLoop.com has posted a clip of Mr. Obama’s meet-and-greet with the journalists in which he stressed the importance of White House outreach to black media, especially blogs with large black followings.

    “The media is changing so rapidly,” the president said, acknowledging the role of the Web in allowing his administration to reach out beyond audiences that are mainstream media consumers.

    “It allows us to reach audiences that may not be watching ‘Meet the Press’ — not that there’s anything wrong with ‘Meet the Press.’ I’m just saying that, you know, it might be a different demographic,” he added, stirring a few laughs from the group.

    The black blogosphere, he added, was a crucial medium through which the White House could covey its message and get feedback from the black community.

    “Part of what’s so powerful about the Web is that it’s not just a one way conversation. And what that then means is we have the capacity potentially to get information about how people are thinking, what their concerns are, what’s working, what’s not in the way that allows us to do our job better,” he said, adding, “We’re very excited about the possibility of our interaction.”

    The White House periodically reaches out to members of the media through off-the-record sessions with journalists. The president has hosted recent gatherings with prominent liberal commentators like Rachel Maddow of MSNBC, Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post and Gail Collins of The New York Times. And after complaints from the White House Correspondents Association that the president and his staff parcel out access too sparingly, Mr. Obama hosted a group of reporters for lunch in August.

    Few details about either of those events — even the complete list of invitees — ever leaked out. But some of the bloggers who visited the White House on Monday apparently felt unbound by the ground rules.

    The blog Jack and Jill Politics, which bills itself as a having “a black bourgeoisie perspective,” wrote that Valerie Jarrett committed to having more meetings with black bloggers.

    Jack and Jill Politics also wrote about the feeling among some who attended Monday’s gathering that they were being used for political expediency. “We essentially told the White House that we are not willing to be ‘pimped,’” the blog said. “Oh, we used better articulation, but it was direct and could not be taken out of context, misunderstood or ignored.

    Keli Goff, an author and blogger who writes for theloop21.com, a news and opinion Web site aimed at a black audience, agreed with that sentiment. “I respect that the second half of the briefing was off the record, but I feel comfortable enough to say I think we made it clear that we want to be taken just as seriously and receive the same measure of access as the mainstream outlets already do,” she said. “This was a good first date. Now let’s see if there some substance there going forward.”

    Angel Laws, editor of the ConcreteLoop.com, declined to comment.

    The attention the meeting received in the black blogosphere highlighted the vast gap that remained between mainstream media outlets and ones focused at minority groups. Though the meeting occurred on Monday and had been a topic of discussion in black media circles for three days, it received virtually no attention in the mainstream press.

  16. Concerning the video about the“Fire From The Heartland” above, who is the lady at 2:29, just before Michelle Malkin?

    Thanks for posting this video. I didn’t know that of its existence.

  17. This is rich coming from the DNC after the Black panthers shit in 2008

    Kaine suggests Tea Partiers could intimidate voters at the polls

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/14/kaine-suggests-tea-partiers-could-intimidate-voters-at-the-polls/

    Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine suggested Thursday that there’s concern that Tea Party activists will intimidate Democrats at the polls in November.

    “We’re always concerned about intimidation, misinformation,” Kaine said, when asked by a reporter whether he thinks the conservative activists will “challenge” voters on Election Day.

    He noted the DNC has a “robust voter protection effort,” which will give the tools they need to combat voter “misinformation or confusion.”

    During a breakfast in Washington, Kaine also sought to downplay the notion that the Democrats’ election strategy amounts to solely running against former President George W. Bush.

    “It’s not a referendum on Bush,” he said. He did, however, go on to say that the solutions offered by Republican candidates this year are the same as the ones emanating from the Bush years.

    Other highlights:

    —In light of Obama attacking conservative groups over the disclosure of donors, Kaine said it could be the biggest scandal since Watergate. “I think what you’re going to see on the Republican side is the non-reportable spending is going to dwarf the reportable spending, effectively hiding from scrutiny the identities of those who are funding these campaigns.”

    —Kaine says the Tea Party has the “upper hand” in the Republican Party. “We think that has significance…we’re going to win seats that we were going to lose six months ago because of the Tea Party.” But the chairman also acknowledged that, “there’s energy there that we have to counter.”

    —Noting how he knows Obama well, he dismissed recent media stories reporting that Hillary Clinton could replace Joe Biden as Vice President in 2012….

  18. Rather than digging up some crazy source that talks about flagellentes and hair shirts and nuns with rulers, I’ll post this, which really should have gone up as reply to a previous anti-Muslim claim, but I was too lazy.

    ASLAN: There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word “they” to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.
    abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-holy-war-americans-fear-islam/story?id=11786745

    This is a purported transcript of a recent Amapour panel with Daisy Kahn and some others, many of them crazy anti-Muslim bigots with more crazy charges. If I get the energy, I’ll pull out Daisy’s and other sensible quotes and post them.

  19. Barney Frank flew free in bailout billionaire’s jet

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/barney-frank-flew-free-in-bailout-billionaires-jet-104956049.html

    Not good publicity for the chairman, whose race has become much more interesting in recent weeks:

    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank didn’t get just a free luxury jet ride to the Virgin Islands with a financier who got a $200 million federal bailout, he also stayed at the billionaire’s tropical mansion, his aide said.

    “They’re friends. Are you not supposed to have friends if they’re wealthy?” Frank spokesman Harry Gural said of the Newton Democrat’s relationship with S. Donald Sussman.

    That’s an interesting way of framing it. I think the answer is that you’re not supposed to bail out your wealthy friends.

    But the story gets better:

    Frank, who has become the face of the unpopular federal bailouts, told the Herald the trip was “personal,” saying he and his partner, Jim Ready, are friends of Sussman and his fiancee, U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-Maine). Gural said all four stayed at Sussman’s St. Thomas manse.

    Frank reported the cost of the flight from Maine to the Virgin Islands at $1,500, but reported no other expenses. Aviation experts pegged the total cost of such a flight at as much as $30,000 each way.

  20. Keeping admin’s advice above (Barack Obama and his party of women hate must be destroyed in November 2010)

    and this message just now in from a Republican organization:

    “With just 19 days until voters head to the polls this election is far from over! The well-funded Barack Obama smear machine has successfully closed the gap in too many important races for Conservative Republican and Tea Party candidates,”

    we must continue to do all that we can.

  21. moon @ 2:46, Kaine is trotting out the whole “R party taken over by Teaparty EXTREEEMISTS!!” crap. There is only one problem with that. New poll out today shows that the swing voters (i.e. the non-ideologues) thinks that it’s the DIMOCRATS, not the republicans, who have been taken over by scary extremists. Read it and weep, as*hat Kaine:

    Likely voters in battleground districts see extremists as having a more dominant influence over the Democratic Party than they do over the GOP.

    This result comes from The Hill 2010 Midterm Election Poll, which found that 44 percent of likely voters say the Democratic Party is more dominated by its extreme elements, whereas 37 percent say it’s the Republican Party that is more dominated by extremists.

    http://thehill.com/house-polls/thehill-poll-week-2/124177-the-hill-poll-swing-district-voters-more-likely-to-see-dems-as-dominated-by-extremists-

  22. Just a woo woo personality reaction here, but the women I’ve seen vilified by liberal women have a manner like Hillary or Sarah. Raised playing hardball with the boys and relishing teh sport.

    Certianly the GOP women who are attacked this way get photographed as pretty and laughing, thus lightweight bimbos — as on the cover article about ‘Mama Grizzlies’ on time/newsweek/whosis.

  23. So much for Obama’s liberal WH, there really is a certain element of behaviour behind this, Gays under the bus again.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43601.html

    Valerie Jarrett apologizes for remark about gay teen

    White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett apologized Wednesday morning for referring to a gay teen who committed suicide as having made a “lifestyle choice.”

    The comments were made to Washington Post reporter John Capehart in an interview Wednesday in which she discussed the recent spate of teen suicides linked to bullying because of sexual orientation. Jarrett praised the parents of Justin Aaberg, a Minnesota teenager who killed himself, for “doing a good job” supporting their son, but she inadvertently stepped into the highly contentious debate about whether homosexuality is innate or a conscious decision.

    “These are good people. They were aware that their son was gay; they embraced him, they loved him, they supported his lifestyle choice,” Jarrett told Capehart. “But when he left the home and went to school, he was tortured by his classmates.”

    Blogger Michael Petrelis slammed Jarrett for the reference, accusing her of taking “talking points from Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council,” a socially conservative organization that condemns homosexuality.

    Jarrett, in an e-mail to Capehart, said that she “misspoke” when she described Aaberg’s sexual identity as a lifestyle choice.

    “I meant no disrespect to the LGBT community, and I apologize to any who have taken offense at my poor choice of words,” Jarrett said. “Sexual orientation and gender identity are not a choice, and anyone who knows me and my work over the years knows that I am a firm believer and supporter in the rights of LGBT Americans.”

  24. turndownobama
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    You mean YOUR crazy source Amapour? By the way, how many beatings have YOU endured for not giving it up?

    Ah, from the mouth of babes….

  25. Dunno if this is even worth checking out….

    “Carl Paladino, a Republican, has a history of sending bestiality pix to his e-mailing list. He is now running for governor of New York and promising a moral crusade against queers and other pervs.”

  26. Christiane Amanpour’s pro-Islam ABC hour
    By GOPUSA Staff October 8, 2010 7:05 AM

    It didn’t get much mention on other news programs or even in conservative circles but Christiane Amanpour hosted a special pro-Islam program on This Week recently. The videos below are long but important. Try to watch them if you can. The following text is from an editorial written about the show.

    Islamists say the Koran is destined to rule America. In fact, the Muslim takeover of the White House is not just an unfolding action plan but a directive from Muhammad himself.
    In an interview Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” British radical Muslim activist Anjem Choudary made clear what he and his Islamist brothers have planned for the West. “We do believe, as Muslims, the East and the West will one day be governed by the Shariah,” he said. “Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.” He then quoted a hadith, or saying of Muhammad, as related by 10th-century Muslim scholar Al-Tabarani, that “the final hour will not come until Muslims conquer the White House.” Another version of the saying goes, “A small portion of Muslims will rise and conquer the White House.”

    Read more at the Washington Times…

    The ABC program included Franklin Graham and Gary Bauer to offer minority opinion. It’s amazing that this hasn’t gotten more attention but I’m sure it would not be politically correct for our leftwing media. Be ready to see Christiane Amanpour’s pro-Islam stance throughout.

    Read more: http://www.gopusa.com/intheloop/2010/10/christiane-amanpours-pro-islam-abc-hour.php#ixzz12Mi2mQmh

  27. I disagree with the author on one count, there are no moderates of Islam…they think they are, but as he says, only because they are irrelevant in a Islamic world…they are a figment of their own imagination
    *******

    October 14, 2010

    October 07, 2010
    Amanpour Inadvertently Exposes the Real Issue with Islam
    William Sullivan

    Recently, Christianne Amanpour hosted a panel discussion meant to explore the misunderstood delineation between moderate and extremist Islam.

    A dichotomy is certainly brought to light in discussion, but considering Amanpour is a staunch Islamic apologist, it is probably not the one she meant to expose. She likely sought to support the notion that Islam is peaceful, and to advance the belief that only a small contingent of radicals corrupts the faith. To those ends, she enlisted guests of Christian and Muslim backgrounds for her panel, and I’m fairly certain she expected the Christian guests to attack Islam as an intolerant faith bent on universalizing Sharia, while her Muslim guests and audience members would defend themselves as peaceful practitioners of the tolerant faith of Islam.

    Americans are familiar with the strategy. It’s the standard stuff that tends to make Christians look intolerant and Muslims look misunderstood.

    But one portion of the discussion hurls a monkey-wrench into those plans. When Amanpour addresses the ideas of Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary, she has the audacity to question his ideas about Islamic domination. Choudary proclaims that he disagrees with the entire focus of the segment, and argues that the notions of moderate Islam or extremist Islam are nonsense. There is only Islam, whose followers “submit to the creator.” Then, in an effort to convey that Islam can live in peace with the Western world, he concludes, “We do believe as Muslims that the east and the west will one day be governed by the Sharia. Indeed we believe that one day the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.”

    It is obvious that his statements reinforce what some Christian panel guests believe to be the truth, and that those statements certainly don’t support the notion of peaceful and tolerant Islam.

    So a Muslim woman in the panel decided to take Choudary to task for his reckless and inflammatory statements, and she went on to instruct him that Islam is a faith of pluralism, and that it provides an allowance of other faiths to exist in a state of equal importance.

    Had she been speaking to the panel’s Christian reverend in that moment, she likely could have won the argument just as she has probably won countless others; by merely saying, “I know better than you Christians do about Islam. I’m a Muslim.” But my guess is that she forgot that she was speaking with someone who had given far more study to the Quran and Hadith than most Christian theologians.

    To her assumption of Islamic tolerance of other faiths and legal systems, Choudary simply suggests that she knows nothing of what Islam desires or requires; she doesn’t even have the good sense to cover herself. Doesn’t she know that the Quran forbids her appearance in that way? So in his eyes, she is not truly a Muslim, as true Muslims are not granted the liberty to sift through Islamic doctrine and select their preferred methods of religious practice. He even makes the comparison that she is a Muslim in the same way that a person who occasionally eats beef burgers is a vegetarian.

    And she cannot argue. The holy book of her faith does explicitly forbid women to present themselves as she does.

    This exchange reveals that cleric Anjem Choudary practices fundamental adherence to Islam in an effort to live in reflection of and submission to the prophet. Those Muslims who believe in religious autonomy and peace only do so because Western concepts like personal freedoms have somewhat permeated the contemporary practice of a religion that mandates universal submission. And to the Muslims who read the Quran literally, such augmentation of Quranic instruction is a sin.

    So in regards to the child in the Middle East watching this panel discussion on Al-Jazeera, who is he more likely to believe is correct in their way of thinking? The harlot who does not cover her chest and speaks of the equality of wretched infidels, or the cleric that espouses the will of the prophet?

    And that is the true dichotomy exposed in this panel discussion. It is not as the title of segment implies, “Moderates vs. Extremists.” It would more aptly be called “Fundamentalist Islam vs. the Western world.”

    While it is important to note that moderate Muslims do exist, it is imperative that we keep that fact within the proper global context. Amanpour and liberal pundits the world over can host hundreds of panels comprised of thousands of Muslims that have embraced Western culture, and that will not change the fact that such voices are irrelevant in the Islamic world. The millions and millions of Muslims that share Choudary’s literal belief in fundamental Islam are ultimately compelled to achieve the goal of universal Sharia, or die trying.

    William Sullivan blogs at politicalpalaverblog.blogspot.com

  28. More along the lines of what I posted above about denigrating the teapartiers:

    The stupid Dems keep thinking in terms of merely manipulating and driving the public rather than having a conversation with them. They don’t give the public enough credit for having a brain IMO. And it’s killing them.

    Contrast that with Bill, after the Dems got their ass kicked in 1994. He didn’t necessarily agree with the opinion of the public as expressed at the ballot box. But he had respect for it. And he went on to do some great things, and got the public behind doing those things, because he FIRST won their trust – a trust that when they spoke, he would LISTEN, regardless of his own policy ideas. It sounds counterintuitive, but when you invite the people into the conversation in that way, you can get more good liberal policy done, because you passed the test and established the trust FIRST. They feel heard, not bullied, and thus will give you the benefit of the doubt on stuff that might even be more left than they would have otherwise gone.

    From his 1995 SOTU address:

    Mr. President, Mr. Speaker, members of the 104th Congress, my fellow Americans: Again we are here in the sanctuary of democracy, and once again, our democracy has spoken. So let me begin by congratulating all of you here in the 104th Congress, and congratulating you, Mr. Speaker.

    If we agree on nothing else tonight, we must agree that the American people certainly voted for change in 1992 and in 1994. And as I look out at you, I know how some of you must have felt in 1992.
    I must say that in both years we didn’t hear America singing, we heard America shouting. And now all of us, Republicans and Democrats alike, must say: We hear you. We will work together to earn the jobs you have given us. For we are the keepers of the sacred trust, and we must be faithful to it in this new and very demanding era.

    Damn, I miss this man:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_I2Yd5jwus

  29. October 14, 2010
    Obama and Company trying to pull a fast one to keep his old seat in the D column?

    By Ed Lasky

    There is a very tight Senate race going on for the Senate seat once held by Barack Obama before his Ascension. The Republican, Mark Kirk (a military reservist), is in a tight race with the Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state treasurer who has close ties to Barack Obama and the Cook County machine. There has been a fair amount of mudslinging between the two sides, but there seems to be some mischief coming from on high. Illinois has been tardy in getting ballots out to our men and women serving in the military, and thus their votes may not count in November.

    WLS reports from Chicago:
    The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether the state of Illinois missed the deadline for mailing absentee ballots to members of the military and other overseas American voters as part of a new federal overseas voting law.

    Cris Cray, Director of Legislation at the Illinois State Board of Elections, says not all of Illinois’ 110 jurisdictions were compliant with the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE).

    The law requires every state to mail their absentee ballots 45 days prior to Election Day to overseas troops, government employees and other Americans who want to vote from abroad.

    Cray said it’s possible the ballots may not be counted because the state was tardy in sending them out.

    This is especially damaging to Mark Kirk since he is a military reservist and soldiers vote for Republicans over Democrats by a three-to-one ratio.

    But for the Democrats, it is imperative that this seat be kept in Democratic hands. There will be a lame duck session where a lot of Obama-Pelosi-Reid’s agenda can be pushed through. Because the current senator, Roland Burris, was appointed by the disgraced Rod Blagojevich, a new senator, when elected, can be seated for the lame duck session and not have to wait until January. Therefore, the Republicans need every seat they can in the Senate to stop further mischief. Beyond this need, it would be a blow to the pride of Barack Obama to have this seat turned over to a Republican and not to Giannoulias — a person who so impressed Barack Obama by his ability to toss a basketball that Obama used his power to help get him elected to the state treasurer’s post (where he has failed miserably).

    The MOVE Act was passed in 2009 in reaction to ongoing problems with having overseas military votes counted. States have had time to prepare and abide by the law. Is it a bolt out of the blue that Illinois — a very blue state, home to Barack Obama and his cast of West Wing characters — somehow just let this slip off their to-do list? All levels of state government are in the hands of Democrats, and Cook County — where the Democratic machine has been in operation for decades and where corruption is king — exercises a tremendous grip on what happens throughout the state.

    Could Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod or their friends have just pulled a few strings, made a few phone calls to some key people, and whispered that other things were more important than giving our soldiers the vote? Dirty tricks are the modus operandi of this Cook County gang (see also my recent column, “Democratic Dirty Tricks: A Primer for Stealing Elections,” for a further taxonomy of the tricks the Democrats have been playing as we approach Halloween and the witching hour of the November voting).

    What makes this inaction even worse is that such skullduggery may have gotten a preemptive pass by the Department of Justice, headed by Eric Holder. The DOJ is charged with ensuring that all states abide by the Move Act and send the ballots out in time. Was the DOJ asleep at the switch? There are certainly signs that the problem may extend from Springfield to Washington.

    For months, there have been numerous reports that the scandal-plagued Voting Rights division of the DOJ has been signaling to states that they do not have to worry about lawsuits for ignoring the Move Act law and that they could expect waivers from abiding by the 45 day requirement. The Washington Times:

    The Voting Section appears to be in no hurry to enforce the new law and, more problematic, appears to be hiding how many states have failed to comply fully with the MOVE Act. As one Wisconsin legislator recently stated, “If there’s no push from the feds, I’m not certain that we will see it happen,” referring to mailing absentee military ballots 45 days before the election.

    Could it be that Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s Justice Department have become tools to ensure Democratic dominance in Congress? Need one even ask?

    Let’s recall that Barack Obama from a very early time in his career made sure that his team was able to invalidate enough signatures on his opponents’ petitions to ensure that he faced no opposition when he ran as a state senator. Obama also engaged in redistricting gamesmanship to redraw boundaries to ensure he had a safe seat. When he ran against a tough primary opponent for the U.S. Senate seat, news was mysteriously leaked that his opponent had been a wife-abuser (David Axelrod, his campaign strategist at the time and now his domestic policy advisor, used to work for the Chicago Tribune — the paper that leaked the story right before the primary election). Obama came from behind in the wake of these reports and won the primary.

    When Obama than faced a well-qualified Republican candidate, news also leaked that Obama’s opponent had taken his wife to a sex club — a visit that did not meet her approval (they later divorced, and this history came to light when newspapers peeled open the closed divorce records). That opponent quite the race.

    Obama said during the campaign for the presidency that if his opponents “bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Some things never change.

    Welcome to gangsta government.

  30. October 14, 2010
    Obama and Company trying to pull a fast one to keep his old seat in the D column?
    By Ed Lasky

    There is a very tight Senate race going on for the Senate seat once held by Barack Obama before his Ascension. The Republican, Mark Kirk (a military reservist), is in a tight race with the Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state treasurer who has close ties to Barack Obama and the Cook County machine. There has been a fair amount of mudslinging between the two sides, but there seems to be some mischief coming from on high. Illinois has been tardy in getting ballots out to our men and women serving in the military, and thus their votes may not count in November.

    WLS reports from Chicago:
    The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether the state of Illinois missed the deadline for mailing absentee ballots to members of the military and other overseas American voters as part of a new federal overseas voting law.

    Cris Cray, Director of Legislation at the Illinois State Board of Elections, says not all of Illinois’ 110 jurisdictions were compliant with the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE).

    The law requires every state to mail their absentee ballots 45 days prior to Election Day to overseas troops, government employees and other Americans who want to vote from abroad.

    Cray said it’s possible the ballots may not be counted because the state was tardy in sending them out.

    This is especially damaging to Mark Kirk since he is a military reservist and soldiers vote for Republicans over Democrats by a three-to-one ratio.

    But for the Democrats, it is imperative that this seat be kept in Democratic hands. There will be a lame duck session where a lot of Obama-Pelosi-Reid’s agenda can be pushed through. Because the current senator, Roland Burris, was appointed by the disgraced Rod Blagojevich, a new senator, when elected, can be seated for the lame duck session and not have to wait until January. Therefore, the Republicans need every seat they can in the Senate to stop further mischief. Beyond this need, it would be a blow to the pride of Barack Obama to have this seat turned over to a Republican and not to Giannoulias — a person who so impressed Barack Obama by his ability to toss a basketball that Obama used his power to help get him elected to the state treasurer’s post (where he has failed miserably).

    The MOVE Act was passed in 2009 in reaction to ongoing problems with having overseas military votes counted. States have had time to prepare and abide by the law. Is it a bolt out of the blue that Illinois — a very blue state, home to Barack Obama and his cast of West Wing characters — somehow just let this slip off their to-do list? All levels of state government are in the hands of Democrats, and Cook County — where the Democratic machine has been in operation for decades and where corruption is king — exercises a tremendous grip on what happens throughout the state.

    Could Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod or their friends have just pulled a few strings, made a few phone calls to some key people, and whispered that other things were more important than giving our soldiers the vote? Dirty tricks are the modus operandi of this Cook County gang (see also my recent column, “Democratic Dirty Tricks: A Primer for Stealing Elections,” for a further taxonomy of the tricks the Democrats have been playing as we approach Halloween and the witching hour of the November voting).

    What makes this inaction even worse is that such skullduggery may have gotten a preemptive pass by the Department of Justice, headed by Eric Holder. The DOJ is charged with ensuring that all states abide by the Move Act and send the ballots out in time. Was the DOJ asleep at the switch? There are certainly signs that the problem may extend from Springfield to Washington.

    For months, there have been numerous reports that the scandal-plagued Voting Rights division of the DOJ has been signaling to states that they do not have to worry about lawsuits for ignoring the Move Act law and that they could expect waivers from abiding by the 45 day requirement. The Washington Times:

    The Voting Section appears to be in no hurry to enforce the new law and, more problematic, appears to be hiding how many states have failed to comply fully with the MOVE Act. As one Wisconsin legislator recently stated, “If there’s no push from the feds, I’m not certain that we will see it happen,” referring to mailing absentee military ballots 45 days before the election.

    Could it be that Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s Justice Department have become tools to ensure Democratic dominance in Congress? Need one even ask?

    Let’s recall that Barack Obama from a very early time in his career made sure that his team was able to invalidate enough signatures on his opponents’ petitions to ensure that he faced no opposition when he ran as a state senator. Obama also engaged in redistricting gamesmanship to redraw boundaries to ensure he had a safe seat. When he ran against a tough primary opponent for the U.S. Senate seat, news was mysteriously leaked that his opponent had been a wife-abuser (David Axelrod, his campaign strategist at the time and now his domestic policy advisor, used to work for the Chicago Tribune — the paper that leaked the story right before the primary election). Obama came from behind in the wake of these reports and won the primary.

    When Obama than faced a well-qualified Republican candidate, news also leaked that Obama’s opponent had taken his wife to a sex club — a visit that did not meet her approval (they later divorced, and this history came to light when newspapers peeled open the closed divorce records). That opponent quite the race.

    Obama said during the campaign for the presidency that if his opponents “bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Some things never change.

    Welcome to gangsta government.

  31. gonzo, the humility and respect for democracy, the trust in the voice of the People that Bill showed in that clip, is entirely foreign to the nature of most of the dems in charge now. Especially Obama. And the American People sense that, on a gut level, even if they can’t articulate it.

    They instinctively distrust those who distrust them.

  32. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly…

    Or some truth mixed in with lots of distortions and lies.

    Check out the faces in the photo…

    ————–

    The Story Never Ends: Bill & Hillary & Barack & America

    As Democrats campaign furiously to contain their losses in this midterm election season, two familiar names dominate their effort and their future.

    The names of course are Obama and Clinton: Two names, three politicians monumentally ambitious in different ways, and one unending psychodrama for their party and country.

    President Obama this fall is both the featured performer-fundraiser for Democrats and the featured target in attack ads aired by Republicans and their allied organizations.

    But right behind him on the campaign trail is Bill Clinton, the former president whose relationship to his party has been through every conceivable permutation over the past two decades. He has been rising star, breakthrough candidate, millstone, conundrum, pariah, rallying point, comeback kid and gray eminence — with encore performances in some roles.

    Now he’s back as the hardest-hitting road warrior the beleaguered Democrats have in this season of travail. That’s why he’ll be in California this weekend for his old rival Jerry Brown, now running for another go at the governorship.

    After that, Clinton will head for Washington state to shore up Patty Murray, a Democrat first elected to the Senate on the same day Clinton won the presidency in 1992. Obama will be in the state three days later.

    These two men have not always been teammates, of course. Two years ago, Bill Clinton was doing everything he could to prevent Barack Obama from swiping the party’s presidential nomination from Hillary Clinton. As that prize slipped from her grasp in the early primary states, her husband engaged fiercely in the fight. Candidate Obama even complained in one debate that he didn’t known which Clinton he was really running against sometimes.

    Bill Clinton told one audience that Obama’s campaign was “the biggest fairy tale you heard in your life.” And there was that egregious moment when he told reporters in South Carolina that the big Obama win there meant no more than Jesse Jackson’s showings in the same state in 1984 and 1988.

    But in politics, even the unkindest cuts can sometimes be forgotten — at least for the moment. Now, the Man from Hope appears everywhere as an ally of the “hope and change” president. Now, the ex-president defends the new president on all issues, foreign and domestic. He attacks Republicans relentlessly and without remorse. And he does it all with that smiling ease and flourish that defies you to say he ever felt any other way.

    In short, Clinton is everything he never was for Democratic candidates when he himself was president. In 1994, the first-term president was anathema in his native South, as well as in rural and ex-urban districts. The Democrats lost 52 seats in the House and 8 in the Senate, giving up control of both chambers for the first time in 40 years and kissing goodbye to a dozen governorships to boot.

    Clinton wasn’t much more help to his party in the next three cycles, either. In his re-election campaign he pushed off from his own party nearly as often as he did from the Republicans. Two years later, embroiled in the Monica Lewinsky fiasco and about to be impeached for perjury, Clinton could scarcely be called an asset on the stump in the 1998 midterms.

    Even in 2000, when his approval numbers were pretty good, Clinton was largely sidelined. His own vice president, Al Gore, thought it better to turn the page than run on his predecessor’s record.

    Since then, of course, being ex-president has been very, very good to Bill Clinton. His book and speeches have made him wealthy for the first time in his life. His smooth and confident appearances in public (including well received orations at the 2004 and 2008 Democratic conventions) have restored some of his luster. His earnest advocacy of Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president seemed to help him recover some of his standing among women voters.

    Meanwhile, in recent months, Hillary herself has also been burnishing the Clinton credentials, most recently barnstorming through the Balkans juggling historically tricky issues and competing territorial demands. As secretary of State she has been an assured and disciplined diplomat, often described as the single most successful member of the Obama cabinet.

    But there’s not enough dignity in all this to kill the soap opera aspects of the Obama-Clinton relationship. The old juices were flowing again early this month when author Bob Woodward, plugging his latest book on a TV program, let it slip that the White House might engineer a job swap between Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden in 2012.

    Okay, so maybe Biden would trade in his current round of thankless tasks for four prestigious years atop the foreign policy world. After all, Biden spent the peak years of his Senate career as the senior Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee.

    But the real focus of the job swap talk was Hillary Clinton. Everyone knows the Obama re-election effort could use a boost, especially the kind that Hillary could provide with women voters. Such a move would be even more attractive if the GOP puts a woman on its ticket in 2012.

    Of course all the principals denied any such job swap scheme was being contemplated. But Woodward has a way of picking up things that no one else has heard and introducing them into reality almost by fiat. Don’t be surprised if the Obama-Clinton idea returns again and again in the months ahead. It makes a certain amount of sense, and it makes even better blog posts.

    Obama and his inner circle were said to have given short shrift to the notion of Hillary as running mate in 2008, in part because they feared the loose cannon tendencies of her husband.

    If doubts about Bill Clinton were a major obstacle to a Barack-and-Hillary ticket in 2008, his redemption tour in 2010 has gone a long way toward dispelling those doubts. And that could mean the idea of Obama and Clinton as a team is more than a fairy tale.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/10/14/130563325/bill-hillary-barack-america

  33. That “whitehouse insider” guy that supposedly got interviewed on that blog, says that it’s actually the whitehouse that is floating the Hill as VP stories as a trial balloon. They are desperate to save his sorry ass, and are putting out feelers to see if dumping Biden for Hillary would do it.

    I think Hillary will eventually tell him to go pound sand, myself. But she’s letting him dangle for now. 😀

  34. Clinton wasn’t much help for 3 cycles for his own party because he lost so much blood…from the stab wounds in his back from his own freaking party…stop this trail of tears Bill.

  35. THIRD TIME I HAVE TRIED TO POST THIS…
    ***********
    October 14, 2010
    Obama and Company trying to pull a fast one to keep his old seat in the D column?

    By Ed Lasky

    There is a very tight Senate race going on for the Senate seat once held by Barack Obama before his Ascension. The Republican, Mark Kirk (a military reservist), is in a tight race with the Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state treasurer who has close ties to Barack Obama and the Cook County machine. There has been a fair amount of mudslinging between the two sides, but there seems to be some mischief coming from on high. Illinois has been tardy in getting ballots out to our men and women serving in the military, and thus their votes may not count in November.

    WLS reports from Chicago:
    The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether the state of Illinois missed the deadline for mailing absentee ballots to members of the military and other overseas American voters as part of a new federal overseas voting law.

    Cris Cray, Director of Legislation at the Illinois State Board of Elections, says not all of Illinois’ 110 jurisdictions were compliant with the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE).

    The law requires every state to mail their absentee ballots 45 days prior to Election Day to overseas troops, government employees and other Americans who want to vote from abroad.

    Cray said it’s possible the ballots may not be counted because the state was tardy in sending them out.

    This is especially damaging to Mark Kirk since he is a military reservist and soldiers vote for Republicans over Democrats by a three-to-one ratio.

    But for the Democrats, it is imperative that this seat be kept in Democratic hands. There will be a lame duck session where a lot of Obama-Pelosi-Reid’s agenda can be pushed through. Because the current senator, Roland Burris, was appointed by the disgraced Rod Blagojevich, a new senator, when elected, can be seated for the lame duck session and not have to wait until January. Therefore, the Republicans need every seat they can in the Senate to stop further mischief. Beyond this need, it would be a blow to the pride of Barack Obama to have this seat turned over to a Republican and not to Giannoulias — a person who so impressed Barack Obama by his ability to toss a basketball that Obama used his power to help get him elected to the state treasurer’s post (where he has failed miserably).

    The MOVE Act was passed in 2009 in reaction to ongoing problems with having overseas military votes counted. States have had time to prepare and abide by the law. Is it a bolt out of the blue that Illinois — a very blue state, home to Barack Obama and his cast of West Wing characters — somehow just let this slip off their to-do list? All levels of state government are in the hands of Democrats, and Cook County — where the Democratic machine has been in operation for decades and where corruption is king — exercises a tremendous grip on what happens throughout the state.

    Could Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod or their friends have just pulled a few strings, made a few phone calls to some key people, and whispered that other things were more important than giving our soldiers the vote? Dirty tricks are the modus operandi of this Cook County gang (see also my recent column, “Democratic Dirty Tricks: A Primer for Stealing Elections,” for a further taxonomy of the tricks the Democrats have been playing as we approach Halloween and the witching hour of the November voting).

    What makes this inaction even worse is that such skullduggery may have gotten a preemptive pass by the Department of Justice, headed by Eric Holder. The DOJ is charged with ensuring that all states abide by the Move Act and send the ballots out in time. Was the DOJ asleep at the switch? There are certainly signs that the problem may extend from Springfield to Washington.

    For months, there have been numerous reports that the scandal-plagued Voting Rights division of the DOJ has been signaling to states that they do not have to worry about lawsuits for ignoring the Move Act law and that they could expect waivers from abiding by the 45 day requirement. The Washington Times:

    The Voting Section appears to be in no hurry to enforce the new law and, more problematic, appears to be hiding how many states have failed to comply fully with the MOVE Act. As one Wisconsin legislator recently stated, “If there’s no push from the feds, I’m not certain that we will see it happen,” referring to mailing absentee military ballots 45 days before the election.

    Could it be that Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s Justice Department have become tools to ensure Democratic dominance in Congress? Need one even ask?

    Let’s recall that Barack Obama from a very early time in his career made sure that his team was able to invalidate enough signatures on his opponents’ petitions to ensure that he faced no opposition when he ran as a state senator. Obama also engaged in redistricting gamesmanship to redraw boundaries to ensure he had a safe seat. When he ran against a tough primary opponent for the U.S. Senate seat, news was mysteriously leaked that his opponent had been a wife-abuser (David Axelrod, his campaign strategist at the time and now his domestic policy advisor, used to work for the Chicago Tribune — the paper that leaked the story right before the primary election). Obama came from behind in the wake of these reports and won the primary.

    When Obama than faced a well-qualified Republican candidate, news also leaked that Obama’s opponent had taken his wife to a sex club — a visit that did not meet her approval (they later divorced, and this history came to light when newspapers peeled open the closed divorce records). That opponent quite the race.

    Obama said during the campaign for the presidency that if his opponents “bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Some things never change.

    Welcome to gangsta government.

  36. headline on drudge!! Michelle O campaigned inside polling station telling someone it was important to vote to keep his agenda going!

  37. gonzo, his campaigning for them makes it worse for Obama, IMO. People may hear “vote for this guy”, but what they see and feel in their gut is the stark contrast. They see and remeber what a great Democrat is, and it’s just so damn obvious that the current Dims are nothing like him. The hopium dissipates every time Bill opens his mouth.

    It’s like sending a steak to campaign for dog food. Spending an hour looking at and smelling that luscious steak does NOT whet the appetite for dogfood, no matter what the steak says. Quite the contrary.

  38. Imo Amapour is out to stir up trouble and get hits.

    In the transcript she leads with an anti-Muslim speaker, has a neutral, goes to another anti-Muslim and summarizes his anti-Muslim view and then lets him expand on it….

    BAsically she is letting the negative, anti-Muslim people get their ugly accusations out there loud and clear, while the Muslims barely get to defend themsleves.

    I’ll try to answer ugly posts with positive posts, when I have time.

  39. i was there a minute ago and it was the story of michelle in the polling station in chicago… maybe they are pulling it.

  40. Found at BP
    ^^^^^^^^

    Behar & Whoopi Storm Off Set after O’Reilly says “Muslims killed us on 9-11″

    Bravo to Bill O’Reilly for telling it like it is. Today he told Whoopi and Behar that Muslims killed us on 9-11… because Muslims killed us on 9-11. Of course, Behar and Whoopi were so outraged at such a statement they actually walked off the set. Ah yes, what tolerance the left has.

    They eventually came back on the set after O’Reilly apologized for drawing distinction between “Muslims” and “radical Muslims”.
    Unreal

    Video @ link if you can stand it.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/behar-whoopi-storm-off-set-after-oreilly-says-muslims-killed-us-on-9-11/

  41. Bill Clinton told one audience that Obama’s campaign was “the biggest fairy tale you heard in your life.” And there was that egregious moment when he told reporters in South Carolina that the big Obama win there meant no more than Jesse Jackson’s showings in the same state in 1984 and 1988.

    =================

    Bill did NOT say Obama’s campaign was a fairytale — just Obama’s claim about his anti-Iraq speech.

    He did say Jackson did well in SC but it was not as this paraphrases it; he said that both ran good campaigns there.

  42. Turndownobama
    October 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    What are you smoking cause you need to b passing that stuff around. Oh, GORE called, he’s waiting for you at the Mosque

  43. What are you smoking cause you need to b passing that stuff around.

    ================

    Mostly, nowadays I only post in support of Cordoba or Muslims in response to someone else posting an attack.

  44. October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Rather than digging up some crazy source that talks about flagellentes and hair shirts and nuns with rulers, I’ll post this, which really should have gone up as reply to a previous anti-Muslim claim, but I was too lazy.

    ASLAN: There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word “they” to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.

    Wrong!

  45. I am sick of waiting to vote, and waiting longer for Barry to pack his bags and go back to the hood.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm…tick, tick, tick…

  46. Now this is significant, this race has turned around massively from a 58/32 split to a 49/47 and this is HAWAII.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/hawaii/election_2010_hawaii_governor

    Hawaii Governor: Abercrombie (D), Aiona (R) In Near Tie

    Former Democratic Congressman Neil Abercrombie and Republican Lieutenant Governor Duke Aiona are now virtually tied in the race to be Hawaii’s next governor.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Aloha State shows Abercrombie picking up 49% of the vote, while Aiona earns 47% support. One percent (1%) prefer some other candidate in the race, and four percent (4%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    These numbers move the race from Solid Democrat to a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Election 2010 Gubernatorial Scorecard.

    In late June, Abercrombie held a 58% to 32% lead over Aiona. The first survey of the race in March found Abercrombie, a congressman for nearly 20 years who stepped down to run for governor, leading Aiona 54% to 31%.

    Abercrombie defeated former Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann in the state’s September 18 Democratic Primary to be the party’s gubernatorial nominee. Aiona faced no serious opposition in the GOP Primary on the same day.

  47. HillaryforTexas
    October 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    ——————

    Wait for those last few words to end up on Obama’s SOTU after the elections but he will miss the tone and the intention by a mile.

  48. Throw her in jail, I say. From Drudge:

    First lady Michelle Obama appears to have violated Illinois law — when she engaged in political discussion at a polling place!

    The drama began after Mrs. Obama stopped off at the Martin Luther King Center on the south side of Chicago to cast an early vote.

    After finishing at the machine, Obama went back to the desk and handed in her voting key.

    She let voters including electrician Dennis Campbell, 56, take some photos.

    “She was telling me how important it was to vote to keep her husband’s agenda going,” Campbell said.

    According to a pool reporter from the CHICAGO SUN-TIMES at the scene, the conversation took place INSIDE the voting center, not far from the booths.

    Illinois state law — Sec. 17-29 (a) — states: “No judge of election, pollwatcher, or other person shall, at any primary or election, do any electioneering or soliciting of votes or engage in any political discussion within any polling place [or] within 100 feet of any polling place.”

    A top Ilinois State Board of Elections official tells the DRUDGE REPORT that Mrs. Obama — a Harvard-educated lawyer — may have simply been ignorant of the law and thus violated it unintentionally.

    “You kind of have to drop the standard for the first lady, right?” the official explained late Thursday. “I mean, she’s pretty well liked and probably doesn’t know what she’s doing.”

    WHITE HOUSE DEFENDS ELECTIONEERING

    When questioned about the brazen nature of Mrs. Obama’s campaigning, press secretary Robert Gibbs defended the action.

    “I don’t think it would be much to imagine, the First Lady might support her husband’s agenda,” Gibbs smiled.

    Developing…

  49. Judge disses Dems’ ‘Alice in Wonderland’ health defense
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    By JENNIFER HABERKORN | 10/14/10 4:29 PM EDT Updated: 10/14/10 7:10 PM EDT

    A federal judge in Florida on Thursday said he will allow some of the lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the health care law to proceed — and criticized Democrats for making an “Alice in Wonderland” argument to defend the law.

    U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson allowed two major counts to proceed: the states’ challenge to the controversial requirement that nearly all Americans buy insurance and a required expansion of the Medicaid program.

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    In his ruling, Vinson criticized Democrats for seeking to have it both ways when it comes to defending the mandate to buy insurance. During the legislative debate, Republicans chastised the proposal as a new tax on the middle class. Obama defended the payment as a penalty and not a tax, but the Justice Department has argued that legally, it’s a tax.

    “Congress should not be permitted to secure and cast politically difficult votes on controversial legislation by deliberately calling something one thing, after which the defenders of that legislation take an “Alice-in-Wonderland” tack and argue in court that Congress really meant something else entirely, thereby circumventing the safeguard that exists to keep their broad power in check,” he wrote.

    Vinson ruled that it’s a penalty, not a tax, and must be defended under the Commerce Clause and not Congress’s taxing authority.

    A Dec. 16 trial date is planned in the lawsuit, brought by 20 state attorneys general and governors. Many legal experts expect it to end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Just last week, a Michigan judge struck down a similar challenge to the reform law, arguing that Congress was well within its constitutional authority when it crafted the law. There are several lawsuits against the health law that are working their way through the court system, but the attorney general suit is the highest-profile challenge.

    Vinson dismissed three of the states’ challenges, including complaints that the law interferes with state sovereignty as to whether employers must offer insurance; that the law coerces states into setting up insurance exchanges; that the individual mandate violates the states’ due process rights.

    The states argued in September that the law violates the Constitution by requiring an expansion of the Medicaid program that’s funded in part by the states and for penalizing people for not purchasing health insurance.

    Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a Republican who lost the state’s gubernatorial primary this summer, filed the suit minutes after President Barack Obama signed the health care bill into law in March.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43626.html#ixzz12NdXKIb7

  50. 184 Democrats
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  51. Saw this comment on a blog called Mrs.O..but saw a reference to it at MOTUS.

    “BTW, I watched her speech at Sen. Feingold’s fundraiser and it was truly a moving speech. She really got to me when she said, “remember I gave my husband to you, and you promised me you would have his back”. That touched me deeply and I really realized the sacrfices the family are making in order for the President to help America. So, we really have to go out and vote, Real Talk!”

    So you Obama lovers here, go vote for that cute, tall, skinny guy because his wife gave him to you and you promised her you..blah, blah, …

    WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER AND HIM?

  52. This is the first and maybe the only time I will post on this site. I am a conservative woman who followed both your admin articles as well as your posts during the 2008 election, probably in the hopes that Hillary supporters would help keep Obama out of the White House. I many times said that had Hillary rightfully gotten the nomination, I would have voted for her despite my support for Sarah. I began to admire your concise, straight analyses and recently decided to check in and see how you all are feeling. You guys are still on target. While I may disagree with your continuing indictment of George Bush, you consistently offer clean and true opinions. Good job. Somehow, somehow we must work together and boot the fraud from the White House.

  53. WASHINGTON (AFP) – US President Barack Obama will welcome former secretary of state and national security advisor Condoleezza Rice back to the White House on Friday.

    Obama has sharp foreign policy differences with Rice, a Republican who was a key figure in the run-up to the Iraq war under George W. Bush’s administration which Obama always opposed.

    The president also frequently criticized the former White House team for neglecting the Afghan war, as he formulated a new strategy last year.

    But Obama and Rice are both racial pioneers. He is America’s first African American president and she is the highest-ranking black woman in the history of the executive branch of the US government.

    In an interview on MSNBC on Wednesday, Rice said that comments by former Republican House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich that Obama’s worldview was “anti-colonial” owing to his African heritage were “over the top.”

    Rice, who has returned to academic life, is currently promoting a memoir and will meet Obama in the Oval Office

  54. Admirer
    October 14th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Come back. We live for diversity and can only win this War if we all fight together

  55. Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice opened the door, however slightly, to a future run for political office in an interview she recently gave to Ladies Home Journal magazine.

    Promoting her new book, a memoir titled “Extraordinary, Ordinary People”, Rice was asked if — since the end of the Bush administration — she had reconsidered her past position that an elected official was not in the offing.

    “I don’t see myself as having that fire,” she replied, according to a transcript of the interview sent to the Huffington Post. “But you never know. Like I said, it’s about figuring out the next thing and seeing where it leads.”

    Based out in California, Rice would be fairly limited (at least in the immediate future) in terms of elected positions to pursue. The state is electing a governor and new senator this cycle, though Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Cali.) is up for re-election in 2012.

    That said, speculation about Rice’s long-term political motivations has long been a favorite, rather wasteful parlor game for the Washington crowd. In 2008, her name was floated as Sen. John McCain’s running mate. It vanished rather quickly.

    The former Secretary of State’s remarks to Ladies Home Journal, however, go a bit further (in the exploratory sense) than her response to similar questions in the past.

    “I have always said that the one thing that I have not seen myself doing is running for elected office in the United States,” Rice said, back in 2008. “I didn’t even run for high-school president, Rice joked, “It’s not in my genes.”

  56. California NOW President: Meg Whitman a Whore

    Can we quit pretending that the National Organization of Women is nothing more than an abortion’s rights group now?
    The president of the California Chapter of NOW just called Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman a whore.
    Talking Points Memo reported:

    Last week, the National Organization of Women and the PAC of the California NOW chapter took heat for their endorsement of state Attorney General Jerry Brown (D) over Meg Whitman (R) in the gubernatorial race in the wake of comments by a Brown aide that Whitman was a “whore.” At the time, national NOW President Terry O’Neill said that anyone who “from here on” calls a woman a “whore” should be fired.

    She might want to have a talk with California NOW President Parry Bellasalma, who today told TPM in response to a question that “Meg Whitman could be described as ‘a political whore.’ Yes, that’s an accurate statement.”

    What a horrible bunch of leftists.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/california-now-president-meg-whitman-a-whore/

  57. …and let’s not forget Joe Trippi saying around the Iowa primary that they were going to “kick Hillary’s ass”…the irony…while his candidate is doing who knows what with who knows who while playing the heartsick loving loyal husband…

    …and sadly I am beginning to lose faith and think we can put Joan Walsh in the category of the faux feminists…she seems to be fine and pleased with Jerry Brown and his whole comments…even disagrees with Matthews and Willie Brown and Tina Brown who lambasted Jerry B for his stupidity…

  58. pm317

    So you Obama lovers here, go vote for that cute, tall, skinny guy because his wife gave him to you and you promised her you..blah, blah, …

    WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER AND HIM?

    —————
    No darn kidding pm

    Is this person 12 years old? Who is dumb enough to buy this cr@p?

  59. New documents uncovered by Judicial Watch show Pelosi took 85 trips on military aircraft
    By: Mark Tapscott
    Editorial Page Editor
    10/14/10 11:34 AM EDT
    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and members of her family and staff took 85 tax-paid trips on military aircraft between March 2, 2009, and June 7, 2010, according to new documents uncovered by Judicial Watch.
    Pelosi’s daughter, son-in-law and two grandsons were on the June 20, 2009, flight from Andrews AFB to San Francisco where Pelosi resides, according to the documents. On July 2, 2010, Pelosi took a grandson on a flight from Andrews to Travis AFB, north of San Francisco.
    Judicial Watch obtained the documents as a result of a January 25, 2009, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
    Previous documents received by the non-profit watchdog group revealed that Pelosi’s travel “cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 over a two-year period — $101,429.14 of which was for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol,” according to Judicial Watch.
    “For example, purchases for one Pelosi-led congressional delegation traveling from Washington, DC, through Tel Aviv, Israel to Baghdad, Iraq May 15-20, 2008 included: Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewar’s scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey, Corona beer and several bottles of wine.”
    “Pelosi’s abusive use of military aircraft demonstrates a shocking lack of regard for the American taxpayer and the men and women who serve in the U.S. Air Force. Speaker Pelosi may have a frequent flyer record for taxpayer-financed luxury jet travel,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/New-documents-uncovered-by-Judicial-Watch-show-Pelosi-took—104950589.html?utm_source=feedburner+BeltwayConfidential&utm_medium=feed+Beltway+Confidential&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BeltwayConfidential+%28Beltway+Confidential%29feed&utm_content=feed&utm_term=feed#ixzz12OTuPYFB

  60. Q: again, what does the confiscation of gold have to do with health care? Yet it too tucked away in Obamacare that obscene piece of legislation that the dims had to pass so we would know what was in it. These people are totalitarians, but half the country is totally oblivious In the state of nature people this stupid would perish because they could not see the perils around them and their ignorance would corrupt the gene pool.
    —————————————

    Dear Taipan Daily reader,

    I’m hoping this note reaches you in time. You see, this situation requires your immediate attention. Unknown to many Americans is a line item buried in the 900-page healthcare reform bill that allows our government to take away your gold! That’s right; they can prevent you from owning any more gold. How is this possible? Because the line item was deliberately tucked away in the healthcare reform bill that was hurried through Congress so President Obama could make history for reforming our healthcare system.

    It takes effect in 2012. That is just two months from now. That’s why time is of the essence. I’m urging you to read the special report that I’ve included in this e-mail. It provides all the details… and how you could safely make 9 times your money on an alternative gold investment. Please, you must act now.

    Sincerely,

    Sandy Franks
    Executive Publisher, Taipan Daily

  61. Israel Resource Review

    Condi Rice Hangs a “No Jews Allowed” Sign
    By Michael Freund Mon Dec 23 2007

    Condoleezza Rice has got some nerve. First, the US Secretary of State had the hutzpa to compare Israel’s treatment of Palestinians to that meted out to US blacks during the bad old days of the segregationist South.

    Speaking at a private session at the close of the Annapolis conference, America’s top diplomat said that having grown up “as a black child in the South, being told she could not use certain water fountains or eat in certain restaurants, she also understood the feelings and emotions of the Palestinians.”

    “I know what it is like to hear that you cannot go on a road or through a checkpoint because you are Palestinian,” the Washington Post (November 29) quoted her as saying. “I understand the feeling of humiliation and powerlessness,” she added.

    Needless to say, the fact that American blacks were victims of violence and hate, while Palestinians are its proficient practitioners, seems to have escaped the secretary of state’s attention.

    Moreover, Rice’s comparison between Israeli security measures and America’s Jim Crow laws is both intellectually dishonest and morally obscene.

    There is no similarity whatsoever between Israel establishing a checkpoint aimed at catching Palestinian suicide bombers and the state of Georgia’s 1960s era prohibition against serving blacks and whites in the same restaurant.

    To suggest otherwise is insulting and offensive, and Rice should know better. After all, by her logic, would Hamas terrorist-in-chief Ismail Haniyeh qualify as a Palestinian Rosa Parks? And yet, for all of her ostensible sensitivity to questions of discrimination, Rice did not hesitate to engage in some bigotry of her own last week when it came to the issue of building new homes for Jews in Jerusalem.

    After Israel announced the approval of tenders for the construction of 307 housing units in the capital’s Har Homa neighborhood, Her Excellency went into what can only be described as a tizzy.

    Speaking at NATO headquarters in Brussels on Friday, Rice told reporters that she had raised the issue of Har Homa with Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni – not once, but twice! “I did, in fact, bring up Har Homa, both earlier in a phone call and then today in our meeting,” Rice said. “I’ve made very clear about seeking clarification on precisely what this means. I’ve made clear that we’re in a time when the goal is to build maximum confidence between the parties and this doesn’t help to build confidence,” she proclaimed.

    Confidence? Did she say “this doesn’t help to build confidence?” And what, Madam Secretary, of the constant Palestinian rocket attacks against southern Israeli towns and cities? Do they “help to build confidence”? Or how about the daily incitement to violence on official Palestinian radio and television? Or the murder last month of 29-year old Ido Zoldan by members of Mahmoud Abbas’ own Palestinian police force? Strangely enough, not one of these odious deeds merited a public comment from Rice about their impact on the “building of confidence” between the two sides.

    And yet, when Israel decides to build some new apartments in an already-existing section of Jerusalem, Rice suddenly finds her voice? Who does she think she is kidding? But what was still more troubling about her statement on Har Homa is that it lends credence to the discriminatory notion that certain places should be off-limits to Jews simply because they are Jews.

    Rice herself was born in the city of Birmingham, Alabama. Ironically enough, just 105 miles north of her birthplace lies a town named Jerusalem, Alabama.

    Were the Secretary of State to suggest that the right of Jews to live and build in Jerusalem, Alabama, should be restricted in any way, she would immediately be denounced as a racist and an anti-Semite, and rightly so.

    Yet when she suggests that Jews should not be permitted to build freely in Jerusalem, Israel because they are Jews, it is inexplicably described as being a “confidence-building measure.” Call it what you will, Ms. Rice, but your opposition to Jewish housing construction in Jerusalem is nothing more than an archaic form of bigotry. You can’t post a “No Jews Allowed” sign, and expect us to view it any differently.

    To suggest that Jews or any other ethnic group should not be allowed to live and build freely in a certain area because of who they are is something that went out of fashion in the United States four decades ago, and I can’t think of a good reason to begin applying it here in Jerusalem today.

    The secretary of state knows full well that civil rights for Jews, like any universal human right, cannot be restricted in time or place. They must be applicable regardless of where a person chooses to live.

    This is especially true when it comes to Jerusalem, the heart and soul of the Jewish people. Our connection to the Holy City stretches back more than three millennia. Indeed, over 1,500 years before the advent of Islam, Jews were living, working and praying in Jerusalem.

    Now, following in our ancestors’ footsteps, we have returned to reclaim what is rightfully ours.

    So step aside, Ms. Rice, and please do not try to interfere.

    Like it or not, nothing can stop this historical process from unfolding.

  62. Great post Admin:

    Sadly, John Lennon’s song ‘Woman of the World’… says it all:
    ____________________

    RI gubinatorial race update for Caprio (D)/Chaffe (I):

    RI rivals Chicago and MA in chronic nepotism and cronyism.

    Chafee campaign manager resigns

    The campaign manager for independent Rhode Island gubernatorial candidate Lincoln Chafee resigned Thursday after he acknowledged he received unemployment benefits while listed on the payroll of the Chafee campaign.

    The resignation comes after NBC 10’s I-Team confronted the Chafee campaign Wednesday, with documents relating to unemployment benefits paid to the campaign manager.

    J.R. Pagliarini stepped down, although he maintains no intentional wrongdoing occurred, according to Mike Trainor, the acting campaign manager, and a statement from Pagliarini.

    The documents, obtained by the I-Team from a source, show that Pagliarini collected unemployment payments of $546 a week for the last two weeks of December 2009 and the first week of January 2010. The I-Team reviewed Chafee’s campaign finance reports that show for the same pay periods, Pagilarini collected over $4,500 in salary from the Chafee campaign, for his job as campaign manager.

    Trainor attributed the overlap in the payroll and unemployment benefits to a peculiarity of the campaign’s payroll system: He was put on the payroll a month before he was actually paid, and his first paycheck came after his jobless benefits had stopped. However, Pagliarini resigned because he did not want political discussion of the matter to become a distraction.

    Pagliarini’s departure less than three weeks before the Nov. 2 election is the latest bad news for the Chafee campaign in the race to succeed term-limited Republican Gov. Don Carcieri. His main competitor in the race, Democratic General Treasurer Frank Caprio has been criticizing him for his disclosure last week that his old Senate campaign failed to pay taxes for five years due to his treasurers’ misunderstanding of tax regulations.

    Pagliarini was laid off last year from a job with the state board of higher education, which is chaired by Caprio’s father.

    He received his last unemployment check on Jan. 2 and officially started with the Chafee campaign on Jan. 4, Trainor said. The campaign’s payroll system delays payments for several weeks for new employees, so he was listed on the payroll Dec. 19, Trainor said.

    But he was not paid until Jan. 15, after he had stopped receiving unemployment.

    “This is an artifact of the odd holdback of the payroll service,” he said.

    “Sen. Chafee has accepted his resignation with reluctance, and is confident that when J.R. is given due process, it will be proven that no intentional wrongdoing has occurred,” he said.

    Pagliarini painted it as a political attack.

    “Those political operatives who created this story chose to wait until a few short weeks before the most important election in recent history … to leak documents to make it appear I am someone other than the person I am, and who I am known to be,” he said in a written statement. “As is often the case with last-minute political attacks, when the full story is told I will be vindicated.”

    There have been no reliable polls in the race, which pits Chafee and Caprio against Republican John Robitaille, a former Carcieri aide, and Ken Block, an entrepreneur who is running with the nascent Moderate Party. But Caprio has dominated fundraising in the race, having raised $2.7 million. Chafee has raised far less, and has loaned himself $1.1 million to wage the campaign without any party support.

    Robitaille and Block have trailed far behind in the money race, with Caprio and Chafee flooding TV airwaves with their ads.

    Pagliarini worked for Chafee when he was a Republican U.S. senator, until Chafee lost re-election in 2006. He then became a deputy chief of staff for Carcieri before moving to the higher education board in 2008.

    http://www2.turnto10.com/news/2010/oct/14/i-team-chafee-campaign-manager-resigns-ar-260676/
    ____________________________

    Chafee’s campaign platform proposes raising RI Sales Tax from 7% to 8% and placing a ‘new’ tax on current non-taxable items such as (which imo is political suicide in this economy) food, clothing, heating oil, services, e.i. hairdressers, tanning salons, dentists, stc..)

  63. http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/california-now-president-meg-whitman-a-whore/

    Can we quit pretending that the National Organization of Women is nothing more than an abortion’s rights group now?
    The president of the California Chapter of NOW just called Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman a whore.
    Talking Points Memo reported:

    Last week, the National Organization of Women and the PAC of the California NOW chapter took heat for their endorsement of state Attorney General Jerry Brown (D) over Meg Whitman (R) in the gubernatorial race in the wake of comments by a Brown aide that Whitman was a “whore.” At the time, national NOW President Terry O’Neill said that anyone who “from here on” calls a woman a “whore” should be fired.

    She might want to have a talk with California NOW President Parry Bellasalma, who today told TPM in response to a question that “Meg Whitman could be described as ‘a political whore.’ Yes, that’s an accurate statement.”

  64. It appears Sharron Angle did well against Harry Reid in the debate tonight.

    David Corn’s twitter reaction was: “Dems should be very depressed.”

    http://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/27399289648

    Politico reviewed the debate and although there was an attempt to prop up Harry Reid the defense was not particularly spirited nor convincing:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43646.html

    LAS VEGAS – Republican Sharron Angle lashed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the only debate of the Nevada Senate race Thursday night, telling the Democrat to “man up” at one point and questioning how he got wealthy during his years in Congress. Reid repeatedly called Angle “extreme” and touted his work on behalf of the economically beleaguered state.

    While neither gaffe-prone candidate committed a major error, both struggled throughout the hour-long forum at a PBS station to convey their message and defend their past statements. The much-anticipated showdown here had more flubs than fireworks.

    Angle repeatedly found herself in verbal cul-de-sacs which she only escaped by returning to well-rehearsed talking points – all the while blurring over some of her controversial statements or ignoring questions about them altogether.

    Reid was also inarticulate, frequently using the parlance of the Senate and offering kind words about former President George W. Bush and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia—hardly the way to motivate his Democratic base.

    Even more puzzling, with the polls deadlocked and his career on the line, the four-term senator largely avoided engaging Angle. For a hard-nosed politician who prides himself on his youthful boxing exploits, he threw surprisingly few punches.

    The former state assemblywoman and tea party favorite was, in her halting fashion, the aggressor of the evening, going after the incumbent with a series of tough attacks.

    Angle used her opening statement to say she lives in a middle-class neighborhood in Reno while he lives in the Ritz in Washington, challenged him to “man up” and admit that Social Security was a fiscal problem and, in the debate’s closing minutes, demanded that he explain how he became rich during his decades in Congress.

    “How did you become so wealthy on a government payroll?” she asked.[snip]

    Part of the incumbent’s difficulty stemmed from how Angle parried questions about her views. She either deflected them and talked about other topics or just stuck with well-honed lines.

    At least three times in discussing her views on Social Security – she has previously said she wanted to phase out the program – the Republican using some variation of the phrase that if the Thrift Savings Plan Reid enjoys is “good enough for him” the public should have access to it, too.

    Some of her other statements were vague, if not entirely incoherent, yet she suffered no deer-in-the-headlights moment.[snip]

    Reid’s best moments came when he was able to contrast his views on such topics with his own.

    “Insurance companies don’t do things out of the goodness of their heart; they do it because of the profit motive,” he said in explaining why they must be forced to cover mammograms and other such tests.

    He spoke fluently in touting the jobs he had delivered for Nevada, which has the nation’s highest unemployment rate, alluding to energy projects, additions to the Las Vegas airport and Harrahs Casino.

    “My opponent is against those, she wouldn’t do that,” Reid said. “My job is to create jobs. What she’s talking about is extreme.”

    “Harry Reid, it’s not your job to create jobs, it’s your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector to create those jobs,” Angle fired back.

    Reid did himself no favors, however, by offering bouquets to a pair of conservatives. Asked about his favorite Supreme Court justice, he said: “ I don’t agree with Scalia’s opinions but he has a masterful mind.” Referring to Bush, who he once referred to as a “loser,” Reid said the former president is “a friend.”

    Perhaps worse for a senator accused of having gone Washington, Reid also frequently sounded as if he was talking to colleagues inside the Senate caucus instead of communicating with Nevada voters watching on statewide TV.

  65. Admin: Great article. I couldn’t help but notice none of the big networks carried the debate. Why in the world did they carry little Delaware’s debate??? I did not watch it but I certainly saw a little of the story while I was watching the miners come out. Nevada is a much more important state than Delaware at least electorally.
    Why would that dumbass Reid be tauting GWB? THis is the most fucked up election I have ever seen.

    Did you notice who Obama is seeing tomorrow and is rolling out the red carpet for???? Condi Rice??? WTF is up with that?? I did manage to did up her Jew hate which is running rapid in both parties. Bush at least we know he in it for the oil and has always been a Saudi suck up. We certainly know Obama is, so what the crap is going on. I find it hard to believe Condi’s little visit to the WH is anything but a simple cup of Java visit! Something is up and I don’t trust the SOB in the WH and I don’t trust the SOB’s that just left the WH.

  66. Condi Rice was a useless SOS…did nothing and amounted to nothing….so now Obama wants to discuss her diplomatic views? Of coarse she also mentioned that is has a degree in international law or some bs like that. Big freaking deal, she might as well have been a chair in the State dept. for all she did.
    Madelane Albright, she was a real SOS, just like Hillary is. I can almost feel those knives sharpening for Hillary now…I hope I’m wrong but I bet I’m not.

    THe middle east is on high alert, yet Hillary is off in Kosavo…WTF is up with that??

  67. The president of the California Chapter of NOW

    ==============

    Is she the one who stood up for Palin in 2008?

  68. Just how in the hell can the First Lady of the United States, campaign in a polling station and the press corp laughs about it? How does Obama call out Rove on illegal donations with he had a direct line from the Palestinians for his donations….this is downright in your face “fuck you”. How in the hell does he think he can get away with this crap??

    She needs to get arrested along with all her black panther friend for voter fraud. Where the hell are the fucking rethugs on this???? Where’s big media….what the hell are we already CHINA??

  69. ASLAN: There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word “they” to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.

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    Wrong!

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    ‘Aslan’s English is not very good, and I seldom use the word ‘bigotry.’ But I’m not sure what else to use for this attitude: the attitude that all ‘Muslims’ all over the world can be lumped together negatively, and that some negative common factor that a non-Muslim imagines in the Muslim religion is somehow the most important thing about all those 1.5 billion people.

    ANy group that big is going to have as much variety as Christianity does. Even a smaller religion such as Judaism has much variety: imagine making some blanket negative statement about all Jews or about Judaism!

  70. A Significant Victory In the Fight Against Obamacare
    By Karen Harned

    Published October 14, 2010
    | FoxNews.com
    Print Email Share Comments (48) Text Size Americans who own and run their own small businesses understand better than anyone the importance of limited government for prosperity and liberty. So, when Congressional Democrats and the Obama administration decided that they had the power to force every American citizen to buy health insurance – the first time the federal government has ever tried to force Americans to buy anything – the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) moved quickly to oppose this unprecedented and profoundly unconstitutional claim of power.

    By joining with 20 state governments in a lawsuit aimed at overturning the controversial new health care law, NFIB is making sure that small business stands up for the Founding Fathers’ vision of a federal government of limited powers. At the core of the case, currently before federal Judge Roger Vinson in Pensacola, Florida, is the Constitution’s “Commerce Clause” which authorizes Congress to “regulate” interstate commerce. As NFIB and the states challenging the law argue, not once in the Constitution’s 223-year history has the Commerce Clause been interpreted to allow Congress to force citizens to engage in economic activity, rather than simply to allow it to regulate those who choose to do so.

    This is a vital distinction. If the Commerce Clause allows Congress to force Americans to buy health insurance (or anything else), there will cease to be any constitutional barrier to Congress’ mandating all sorts of other purchases. It is not too difficult to imagine federal “mandates” to buy fruits and vegetables or join a gym, or even to buy cars from manufacturers bailed out by the federal government.

    Judge Vinson seems to agree. Today, he ruled that NFIB’s lawsuit may move forward and denied the Obama administration’s request that he dismiss the case. In doing so, Judge Vinson stated (pages 63-64):

    “The individual mandate applies across the board. People have no choice and there is no way to avoid it. Those who fall under the individual mandate either comply with it, or they are penalized. It is not based on an activity that they make the choice to undertake. Rather, it is based solely on citizenship and on being alive. As the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office concluded sixteen years ago (when the individual mandate was considered, but not pursued during the 1994 national healthcare reform efforts): “A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action. The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.” See Congressional Budget Office Memorandum, The Budgetary Treatment of an Individual Mandate to Buy Health Insurance, August 1994

    The lawsuit is far from over, but today’s ruling represents a significant victory: NFIB will now be able to fully argue its case and the administration will have to defend its attempt to exert unprecedented and unconstitutional power over the lives of individuals. NFIB is confident that the Constitution will prevail.

    Karen Harned the executive director of the National Federation of Independent Business Small Business Legal Center. NFIB is a plaintiff on the federal lawsuit with 20 states challenging the constitutionality of the new health care law

  71. Wbboei, the NYTimes has a surprisingly fair review of the Vinson ruling. The Times might be preparing its readers for a ruling against the Obama health scam:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/health/policy/15health.html?_r=1&hp

    “In a foreboding ruling for the Obama administration, a federal judge in Florida decreed Thursday that a legal challenge to the new health care law by officials from 20 states could move forward and warned that he would have to be persuaded that its keystone provision — a requirement that most Americans obtain insurance — is constitutional.

    “At this stage in the litigation, this is not even a close call,” wrote Judge Roger Vinson of Federal District Court in Pensacola, Fla., before asserting that the insurance mandate was an unprecedented exercise of Congressional authority.

    “Of course, to say that something is ‘novel’ and ‘unprecedented’ does not necessarily mean that it is ‘unconstitutional’ and ‘improper,’ ” Judge Vinson continued. “There may be a first time for anything. But, at this stage of the case, the plaintiffs have most definitely stated a plausible claim.”

    Judge Vinson, a senior judge who was nominated by President Ronald Reagan, indicated last month that he would let the case proceed. In Thursday’s opinion, he formally rejected the federal government’s motion to dismiss the suit. It now proceeds to a full hearing on the constitutional issues on Dec. 16.[snip]

    In his 65-page opinion, Judge Vinson dismissed several lesser claims, but then telegraphed his leanings on the central questions he will now consider more fully.

    He sympathized with the plaintiffs’ argument that the insurance requirement, which starts in 2014, was beyond the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. The court has ruled that the government can regulate “activities that substantially affect interstate commerce.”

    The case is proceeding on a parallel track, but slightly behind, a similar case filed in federal court in Richmond by Virginia’s attorney general. The judge in that case plans to hear oral arguments on Monday. He already has offered his opinion that the law “extends Commerce Clause powers beyond its current high watermark.”

    Justice Department lawyers have argued that decisions to forgo coverage are active choices that have significant commercial consequences because the uninsured often cannot afford the medical care they inevitably need. That shifts costs to hospitals, taxpayers and the privately insured.

    Judge Vinson disagreed. “It is not based on an activity that they make the choice to undertake,” he wrote. “It is based solely on citizenship and on being alive.”

    The judge also used strong language to reject the government’s courtroom characterization of the penalty imposed on the uninsured as a tax. Government lawyers have argued it is a tax because Congress is given broad authority under the Constitution to levy taxes.

    But the judge took pains to note that Congress referred to the fines in the legislation as a penalty, and that Mr. Obama denied it was a tax increase. Calling it an “Alice-in-Wonderland tack,” Judge Vinson wrote that Congress had tried to reap a political advantage during the debate by denying it was imposing a tax, and then sought a legal advantage in court by insisting it had done so.

    The judge also said he would hear further argument on the plaintiffs’ assertion that the law’s vast expansion of Medicaid, a shared state and federal program, amounts to an unconstitutional commandeering of state tax dollars. But because states can at least theoretically withdraw from the program, Judge Vinson wrote that the law currently “provides very little support” for the argument.

  72. I haven’t been here for such a long time. You guys still posting here have changed. What happened? How did you go from being Clinton Democrats to Tea Baggers?

    You’re supporting Meg Whitman over Jerry Brown? Why? Meg Whitman is against every liberal policies set in place. She wants to repeal the climate change law set in place by Schwartzenegger. He’s not supporting her. Whitman is practically trying to buy her way into office.

    Whitman has stated that she wants to run California as a CEO. She doesn’t care about the working class in California.

    Let’s hope Californians are smarter than posters here.

  73. I think Harry Reid just handed the election to Angle last night, that was a disaster from him by the accounts of Dems this morning.

    Reid just came of as this aloof senator who really didnt know what he was doing.

  74. The GOP has 50 million on hand, the Dems cant even raise 10 million…….Dems being vastly outspent.

    Democratic Funding Fades (Fail)

    WASHINGTON—A late effort by Democrats to match record fund raising by conservative organizations has come up short, leaving the party more reliant than usual on the campaign efforts of labor unions.

    A key pro-Democratic group, recently created by top party insiders to build a “firewall” around the Democrats’ majority in the House, said Thursday it hoped to raise $10 million. That’s a fraction of the $50 million that an alliance of GOP groups said Tuesday they would spend to help Republicans in dozens of House races.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703631704575552462557955610.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

  75. It appears Sharron Angle did well against Harry Reid in the debate tonight.
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    CSPAN reran it early this morning; she was good enough for me (I saw only the last 15 minutes) to reconsider a third donation which unfortunately, she has found a need to request. A bit shaky, not terribly polished, but otherwise excellent against no less than the Senate Majority Leader. Because she’s a woman, Big Media will feel justified in focusing on the ‘shaky and unpolished.’

  76. from what i gather the Dems wanted to portray her as some mad tea party nut and she didnt come off that way, so people are now asking, why the media has portrayed her as some deranged nut when she didnt come off that way in the debate.

  77. ” filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 4:19 am

    I haven’t been here for such a long time. You guys still posting here have changed. What happened? How did you go from being Clinton Democrats to Tea Baggers? ”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Filbertsf – You should read more often. That way you would realize that many on this site believe the OBAMA Dimocratic Party has completely and utterly skewed and destroyed what was the Clinton Democratic Party, and therefore it must itself be destroyed from top to bottom. The fact that you do a drive-by and call us the derogatory and infantile term “Tea Baggers” shows ME you are unaware of the destruction caused to both the Country and the Party by the Obama Agenda.

    Perhaps if you read here more often you would educate yourself to that fact, instead of simply yelling “nah nah poo poo” and running away. There are MANY issues (we) I disagree with on the Conservative side, but strange times make strange bedfellows, and I for one cannot sleep with Obama. To turn a blind eye to the real message of the Tea Party movement (which includes MANY REAL Democrats) to simply emulate Anderson Cooper, is what got us here in the first place. I cannot speak for California, and you will see Brown has many supporters here, but your sexist, homophobic derogatory comments about those you don’t care for (the readers of Big Pink) are simply one example of why the Obama Dimocrats must be up-ended.

    Take the hate blinders off.

  78. Condi Rice Hangs a “No Jews Allowed” Sign
    By Michael Freund Mon Dec 23 2007

    Condoleezza Rice has got some nerve. First, the US Secretary of State had the hutzpa to compare Israel’s treatment of Palestinians to that meted out to US blacks during the bad old days of the segregationist South.
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    Good article, confloyd. I only wish Condi had said it yesterday. Nevertheless, the insight into the Bush agenda during his adm and why the expediency for placing diplomacy on the back burner. Awl!

  79. Obama visits the State and the republican %age goes up…..lol.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/pennsylvania/election_2010_pennsylvania_governor

    Republican Attorney General Tom Corbett continues to run well ahead of Democrat Dan Onorato in Pennsylvania’s gubernatorial contest despite a visit to the state by President Obama to boost Democratic candidates.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Keystone State finds Corbett with 54%, his best showing yet. Onorato, Allegheny County’s county executive, gets 40% of the vote. One percent (1%) like another candidate in the race, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    The contest remains Solid Republican in the Rasmussen Reports Election 2010 Gubernatorial Scorecard.

    Two weeks ago, Corbett held a comparable 53% to 41% lead. Corbett has led the race in surveys since February, with 45% to 54% of the vote. Onorato has earned 26% to 41% support in the same period.

    The survey was taken two days after Obama and Vice President Joe Biden came to a rally in Philadelphia to appear with Democratic candidates in the state including Onorato. The gubernatorial candidates will hold their final debates of the campaign this coming Saturday and Monday nights.

  80. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 4:19 am
    I haven’t been here for such a long time. You guys still posting here have changed. What happened? How did you go from being Clinton Democrats to Tea Baggers?

    You’re supporting Meg Whitman over Jerry Brown? Why? Meg Whitman is against every liberal policies set in place. She wants to repeal the climate change law set in place by Schwartzenegger. He’s not supporting her. Whitman is practically trying to buy her way into office.

    Whitman has stated that she wants to run California as a CEO. She doesn’t care about the working class in California.

    Let’s hope Californians are smarter than posters here.
    &&&&&&&&

    filbertbs,

    we look forward to your visits becoming even more infrequent.

  81. What a surprise about Rice, I was not aware of this view of hers. This is really a Bush III, isn’t it? If Hillary was president, there was some chance for peace but now looks like the Saudis and other Arabs put this guy in the WH to thwart the peace process. They want the conflict to continue.

  82. Your pre-election post-mortem

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, October 15, 2010; A21

    When the election is over, prizes and trophies and hosannas will be issued left and right. But why wait? As a public service, I present an infallibly prescient scorecard of best and worst of 2010.

    Most suicidal candidate:

    Carl Paladino is running in a deep-blue state with sky-high taxes, yawning deficits and rampant corruption. The last elected Democratic governor resigned in disgrace, and his successor is so tainted that he dare not run for another term. So, what does Kamikaze Carl proceed to do? Get in an angry shouting match with a reporter. Level some odd insinuation about his opponent’s “prowess.”Figuring he hasn’t veered off-message enough, he then expounds on homosexuality — and spends three days having to explain and reaffirm, before the inevitable apology. He’s down by 19 points.

    Innocent bystander award. Down-ballot New York state Republicans (see above).

    Luckiest guy on the planet:

    Chris Coons, Delaware. He draws the short straw to run against the anointed Republican establishment candidate Mike Castle, who had never lost a statewide election in 12 tries. Good soldier gamely plays sacrificial lamb — then, bingo: Castle stunningly loses the primary. Coons is now up by 18 points.

    Unluckiest guy on the planet:

    Beau Biden (see Delaware, above), groomed for years to inherit his father’s seat. After Castle declared, however, the young Biden decided to forgo the race, citing important unfinished business as attorney general. He must now watch Coons walk off with the family jewel.

    Most important socio-demographic trend:

    The rise of the conservative woman. Sarah Palin’s influence is the most obvious manifestation of the trend. But the bigger story is the coming of age of a whole generation of smart, aggressive Republican women, from the staunchly conservative Nikki Haley (now leading the South Carolina governor’s race) and the stauncher-still Sharron Angle (neck-and-neck with Harry Reid in Nevada) to the more moderate California variety, where both Carly Fiorina (for Senate) and Meg Whitman (for governor) are within striking distance in a state highly blue and deeply green. And they are not only a force in themselves; they represent an immense constituency that establishment feminism forgot — or disdained.

    Most misrepresented socio-demographic trend:

    Conventional wisdom is that the election is being driven by anger and blind anti-incumbent fervor. Nonsense. Overwhelmingly, it is Democratic incumbents, not Republicans, who are under siege. This is a national revolt against the Democratic governance of the past two years. One must understand that “anger” is the explanation du jour when Republicans win big. The last wave election (1994), for example, was dubbed the Year of the Angry White Male — despite the fact that there was not a scintilla of polling evidence supporting that characterization. Of course the electorate is angry this time around. But it is not inchoate irrational anger — a “temper tantrum,” as ABC News anchor Peter Jennings called the 1994 Republican sweep — but a highly pointed, perfectly rational anger at the ideological overreach and incompetence of the governing Democrats.

    Rising star:

    Marco Rubio, soon-to-be senator from Florida. He has the ingredients of a young Obama — smart, inspirational, minority (Cuban American), great life story. Headed for a meteoric rise.

    Fastest falling star:

    Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida. Facing disaster in the Republican primary against Rubio, he becomes an independent, flip-flops on one issue after another, and is now running about 16 points behind. Just two years ago, there was talk of him as a Republican vice presidential candidate. Today he’s nowhere man.

    Most shameless attack campaign (national). President Obama suggesting that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is secretly using foreign money to fund its campaign ads. There’s not a shred of evidence that this is true. When
    Bob Schieffer asked David Axlerod for evidence, he responded, “Well, do you have any evidence that it’s not, Bob?” That’s like some lunatic claiming that Obama secretly says Muslim prayers at night that no one can see and no one can hear. You ask: What’s your evidence? He says: What’s yours that he is not? You say: No one’s ever seen or heard him do that. He says: Aha, that’s exactly my point.

    Most shameless campaign ad (local):

    Category canceled. Too many entries.

    Most irresistible political name:

    New Hampshire Republican and Senate primary candidate Ovide Lamontagne. Sounds like a French-Greek poet declaiming in the streets of Nashua. Tragically, he lost.

    Ovide, we hardly knew ye.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101405234.html

  83. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:15 am

    Did you notice who Obama is seeing tomorrow and is rolling out the red carpet for???? Condi Rice??? WTF is up with that??
    &&&&&&&&

    Perhaps it is a subtle slap at his current SoS, to have Bush’s SoS over for tea and crumpets, and spend more face time with her than he has with Hillary over the 21 months.

  84. Most shameless attack campaign (national). President Obama suggesting that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is secretly using foreign money to fund its campaign ads. There’s not a shred of evidence that this is true. When
    Bob Schieffer asked David Axlerod for evidence, he responded, “Well, do you have any evidence that it’s not, Bob?” That’s like some lunatic claiming that Obama secretly says Muslim prayers at night that no one can see and no one can hear. You ask: What’s your evidence? He says: What’s yours that he is not? You say: No one’s ever seen or heard him do that. He says: Aha, that’s exactly my point.
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    Yes. That single statement removes the mask of an aggressive professional campaign manager and it reveals Axelrod for the Orwellian he is. This statement is reminiscent of the interrogation techniques of Felix Derjinsky who was in charge of the secret police. You are guilty because I say you are guilty now do you have anything to say for yourself before I put you on a freight train and send you to Siberia, not that it will make any difference. That in a nutshell is the mindset of the Obamacrats, it is where this kind of thinking ultimately leads and it is why these people are a clear and present danger to our country. They are perfectly capable of police state methods, when the time is ripe. They remind me of that statement by Kennan that it is wise to look to history because it gives you an ability to avoid those paths which lead only to despair and from which no one ever returns.

  85. Wbboei, the NYTimes has a surprisingly fair review of the Vinson ruling. The Times might be preparing its readers for a ruling against the Obama health scam:
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    Thank you very much Admin. I would have missed this because I can no longer stomach reading the NYT. I know that is no excuse but after so much biased reporting I just can’t help myself. Judge Vincent’s ruling hits on every point we raised against this law when we first saw it. Roughly a year ago, you mentioned an article by the legal writer at the NYT predicting that the Supreme Court would find this federal overreach against the states and private individuals to be constitutional based on existing precedent. I never bought that argument myself, and it now appears that some of their bias is waning. Obviously, this ruling is not dispositive of the core issue, but it lays out the thinking of where this judge is likely to go. It is in line with the Virginia case only the logic is more explicit. The distinction he makes between a tax and a penalty, plus the way he disposes of the argument that this is simply the regulation of interstate commerce seem significant to me. This ruling makes mincemeat out of the legal sophistry and bankrupt thought process of the Michigan judge who dismissed a similar law suit recently.

  86. This email just in from Poop-poopsie on behalf of an Emily’s List fundraiser called WOMEN VOTE!
    In the coming weeks, America faces a critical choice between continuing our progress on behalf of women and families or letting the Republicans bring back their failed agenda of the past and its disastrous economic policies.
    [Let me repeat that: continuing our progress on behalf of women ….]
    Working with their secretive outside groups, Republicans are spending unprecedented resources against our women Members and candidates. Their goal is simple: repeal the progress Democrats have made, from saving and creating 3.6 million jobs, to the toughest Wall Street reforms in a generation, to health insurance reform that has ended the days where being a woman qualifies as a pre-existing medical condition. Women will decide the outcome of this election and EMILY’s List is working day and night to fight back. They are on a mission to get Democratic women voters to the polls through their WOMEN VOTE! program and with less than three weeks until election day, your support is critical to their efforts.
    [then on to the contribution page]:
    But at EMILY’s List WOMEN VOTE! program, we know what it takes to reach out to independent women and get them to the polls to vote for our candidates on election day. With less than three weeks to go, your support is critical to our efforts.
    Please contribute today to help fully fund our WOMEN VOTE! program.
    The range they are suggesting is $15 – $500.

    This appeal is triple snort-worthy, wouldn’t you say?

  87. turndownobama, I don’t know anyone, not even on the far right, that purports that all Muslims are evil. But to raise objections to saying “we were attacked by Muslims on 9/11”, and insist that one call them only “extremists” is ridiculous. One could make an argument for calling them “Muslim Extremists”, but to say that one can completely divorce their religious beliefs from their actions is head-in-the-sand stupidity. And here’s why:

    The reason why the religion of the 9/11 attackers is significant, whereas the religion of, say, Ted Bundy isn’t, is because the attack was carried out in the name of and inspired by their God. To say “they are merely extremists, don’t bring religion into it at all” is to fly in the face of the honest words of the terrorists themselves, who tell us repeatedly, “YES, we are doing this in the name of Allah, and because He commands us to do it”.

    When we discuss the crusades, we do not say that “extremists” overran Muslim cities and slaughtered people. We say that CHRISTIANS did it. We say that THE CHURCH did it. And it doesn’t matter that there were likely many, many peaceable Christians living in the countryside who had no desire to go kill any Muslims, and many within the Church hierarchy itself who disagreed. We say “the Christians went to war” because the people doing it were doing it IN THE NAME OF Christianity, exhorted and encouraged to do so from the altars and pulpits of their faith, and therefore one logically refers to their own self-admitted driving motivation in discussing their actions.

    In the modern age, you do not see the Church going around trying to conquer, slaughter unbelievers, and impose their religion via bloody violence. Hasn’t happened for many centuries. You may see people committing violence who happen to be Christians, but there is no large sect of Christianity that preaches officially from its pulpits “go kill the filthy unbelievers in the name of Jesus, we will rule the world by the sword, and bless you my child.”

    You do, however, see that in Islam today. And it is no more bigoted to acknowledge that fact by saying “we were attacked by Muslims on 9/11” than it is bigoted to say that “the Christians overran and conquered Niccea in 1097”. Both statements are true, and neither statement asserts that ALL Christians or ALL Muslims were, or are, bloodthirsty murderers.

  88. MIRACLE!

    Mutilated Afghan teen on Time cover gets new nose

    (before and after video at link)

    October 13, 2010

    Aisha, the 19-year-old Afghan whose nose and ears were hacked off by her husband and who appeared on the cover to Time magazine this summer, has a new prosthetic nose!

    With her new look, she attended the Grossman Burn Foundation’s benefit event in California on Oct. 8 and received an Enduring Heart award from Maria Shriver, wife of California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    “This is the first Enduring Heart award given to a woman whose heart endures and who shows us all what it means to have love and to be the enduring heart,” Shriver said.

    The Grossman Burn Foundation paid for Aisha’s surgery in California, and plastic surgeon Peter H. Grossman, co-director of the Grossman Burn Centers, is hoping that a “permanent solution” can be found, perhaps reconstructing Aisha’s nose and ears from bone, cartilage, and tissue from other parts of her body, reports the Daily Telegraph. Now, Aisha is beginning a new life in the United States. What a brave young woman.

    Update:

    The brutality inflicted on women like Aisha shows us why Secretary Clinton is so adamant that absolutely no political reconciliation in Afghanistan should come at the price of Afghan women’s well-being. As she said in July in Kabul:

    “I don’t think there is such a political solution that would be a lasting, sustainable one that would turn the clock back on women. That is a recipe for a return to the kind of Afghanistan — if not in the entire country, in significant parts of the country — that would once again be a breeding ground for terrorism.”

    Here is a CNN video about Aisha, whose surname has not been disclosed, and her new look:

    http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/13/mutilated_afghan_teen_on_time_cover_gets_new_nose

  89. Why is Bambi meeting with Condi….

    Well, a dig at Hillary is obvious (the fact Hillary is not there is rude) but maybe the cretin wants to offer her some position, Sec of Defense when Gates leaves?.

    One things for sure, she aint there just because “she just happens to be in town”. She’s there for a reason.

  90. This whole “you can’t even mention when a terrorist is Muslim” crap is just ridiculous. Imagine trying to intelligently discuss the crusades with the caveat that any mention of religion-as-motivator was taboo. Utter nonsense would ensue.

  91. Why is Bambi meeting with Condi….
    ———————————-
    You would need a psychiatrist to answer that question with any degree of certainty. Hypothetically the possible reasons are to get a photo op, to ask for her insights on the middle east, to offer her a job if Hillary leaves office, to convince skeptics that he is bi partisan, to insulate himself against partisan attack, to develop information that can be used as a line of attack against republicans, to play mind games with adversaries, to wow her with his brilliance, to appeal to her based on common race, to quote what she said to him in a speech, etc. Whatever it is it is not for the good of the country, it is strictly for his own political advantage and I doubt it will work. Let’s face it, he has emulated Bush in most other respects.

  92. MTV PRESIDENT

    Couple of telling quotes from yesterday’s college “town hall” meeting on MTV, and my $$$ responses.

    OBAMA: “My hope is that as we look forward, let’s say on education or on energy … that we’re going to have a greater spirit of cooperation after this next election,” he said.

    $$$ Hey, didn’t he promise that in 2008??? And then became the most hyperpartisan hack president in recent memory?

    “He took a strong stand against the ban on gays serving openly in the military, but said he had to operate within U.S. law.

    $$$ “operate within US law” translates to: “I will TALK about being opposed to DADT for those who want to hear me say that, but I won’t change it, for those who would criticize me”.

    “A federal judge this week ordered an end to enforcement of the federal law used to remove gays from the military, but the administration asked the court Thursday to set aside the ruling until they can appeal it. Obama has signaled that he wants Congress to repeal the law.”

    $$$ This translates to: “The Obama Administration is fighting to keep DADT, but I am against DADT. I apparently have no sway over the guy who reports to me, Attorney General Holder. In other words, I am not in charge.”

  93. So Alaska overseers are stipulating what does and does not count as a write in.

    People must draw an oval, fill it in.

    Minor mispellings of Murkowski may be allowed but it must have both first and last name, just Murkowski will not suffice, Liza Murkowski wont count, neither would just Lisa or LM.

    No way is she ever going to get thousands of voters to do this right.

  94. Hillary Clinton and Baroness Ashton talk children and shopping

    Hillary Clinton and Baroness Ashton have revealed that in between talks on the conflict in Afghanistan or Iran’s nuclear threat they discuss the really important things – children and shopping.

    Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
    15 Oct 2010

    Henry Kissinger, one of Mrs Clinton’s predecessors at the American state department, is said, to have expressed US frustration at diverging European national foreign policies by asking, “Who do I call if I want to call Europe?”.

    The US secretary of state said the creation of an EU foreign minister and the appointment of Lady Ashton, following the entry into force of the Lisbon Treaty last year, had answered the question to Washington’s satisfaction.

    “It’s very helpful to have someone like Cathy in the position to take those phone calls and I think it is going to improve our co-ordination as it already has on so many issues and it’s also fun,” she said.

    “I mean I love working with her and spending time with her and admire greatly her grasp of the very complex issues that we both face.”

    Mrs Clinton said their warm relationship, between two of the most senior female politicians in the world, allowed them to share a women’s perspective on global affairs often dominated by conflict and crises.

    “It is also for me a real pleasure to be able to not just talk about the serious matters but about our children, about shopping,” she said.

    “You know the work that we do, foreign policy and security, are so intense, they are truly life and death issues for the people we represent, and you have to blow off a little steam and when I see Cathy I know that I’ll be able to take a deep breath and you know say ‘oh my gosh can you believe that?’ or ‘did you see what happened there?'”.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8066502/Hillary-Clinton-and-Baroness-Ashton-talk-children-and-shopping.html

  95. Can the Black Vote Pull It Out For Obama This Time?

    Jay Newton-Small
    Thursday, October 14, 2010

    This was the subject of a report released this morning from David Bositis, one of the nation’s foremost experts on black voter trends, at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington.

    Bositis presented a convincing case on how African American voters could make the difference for Democrats, comparing this year to the 1986 and 1998 midterm cycles. In 1986, two years after Jesse Jackson’s first presidential run where he showed black voters could turnout if properly mobilized, the Democrats’ Operation Big Vote led to record levels of black voting in a midterm election and helped Dems win back the Senate. Twelve years later, Bill Clinton called on African American voters to help him as he faced down the Monica Lewinsky scandal. They heard his call and Democrats ended up winning six House seats. “The black vote is not a national vote, it’s in 20 states and a quarter of congressional districts,” Bositis said. “So the impact in any election cycle depends on the competitive districts.”

    Twelve years later and Dems are looking at a tough year, Bositis acknowledges. But, he says, the black vote is ideally positioned to help. They make up large enough margins to swing 20 House seats, 15 of those in the South. Republicans need to win 39 seats to control the House, which means African American turnout could literally save the House if it’s high enough. “President Obama is more popular with African Americans than Bill Clinton was in 1998,” Bositis said. “Bill Clinton then had a 60% approval rating amongst African Americans and an 80% favorability rating. Obama has an 80% approval rating and a favorability rating of 95%” with black voters.

    Democrats aren’t oblivious to the potential of the African American vote. At a breakfast this morning sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine said they’re investing $3 million to get out the black vote. “That’s seven or eight times what we’ve invested in previous years,” he said.

    Still, the black vote has yet to answer Obama’s calls thus far. They didn’t show up in the 2009 gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey. Nor did they turn up in the 2010 primaries: according to an American University study by Curtis Gans out today, Democratic turnout was a record low – just 8.2% of the eligible electorate. And for the first time in 70 years, Republican primary turnout eclipsed Democratic turnout.

    While Obama is still incredibly popular amongst African Americans, he won’t be on the ballot next month and it remains to be seen if his popularity will rub off on other candidates. In fact, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has already cut off funding for four of those 20 seats — Rep. Steve Dreihaus in Ohio, REp. Chet Edwards in Texas and the open seats in Tennessee’s eight district and Arkansas’s second district — essentially giving up those seats as lost. Plus, African Americans are amongst some of the most affected by the economic turndown and the Congressional Black Caucus has often criticized the President for not doing enough for one of his core constituencies, to the point that they held financial regulatory reform hostage for several weeks demanding more aid for minorities.

    Will the black vote save the day for Dems? It’s impossible to tell at this point. The potential is there but it’s not looking likely.

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/10/14/can-the-black-vote-pull-it-out-for-obama-this-time/

  96. I haven’t done a drive-by. I can’t be on the internet 24/7.

    Just surprised that so many posters (like rgb44hrc, wbboei, etc) whose posts I used to read and agreed with have become so unfamiliar to me.

    Why support the Tea Party? Why Palin, Whitman, Angle, and O’Donnell?

    This isn’t about misogyny. Misogyny is not allowing a woman to decide what she can and can’t do with her body. Palin, Whitman, O’Donnell, Sharron Angle et al are all anti-choice. They’re probably the same people who maligned Hillary. These are not the people you want running our states/country. Not the people you want to align yourself with.

    I’m still a Hillary supporter and hope Mr. Hopey-Dopey decides not to run in 2012 (not going to happen), but one thing I am is a Clinton Democrat. I think Obama is incompetent and an utter failure (as predicted), but that doesn’t mean I’m going to support a fringe groups and defend the likes of those mentioned.

  97. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 4:19 am
    I haven’t been here for such a long time. You guys still posting here have changed. What happened? How did you go from being Clinton Democrats to Tea Baggers?

    ————
    First of all, calling people on the blog ‘Tea Baggers’ is a sexual slur and shows us total disrespect, it also puts a big target on your forehead.

    I for one will NOT be voting for Meg Whitman for her lack of support on public education and a few other important issues. My choice has nothing to do with your lack of persuasion.

  98. Rumors abound, but here’s the latest from The Campaign Spot at National Review:

    From the Campaign Spot:
    “Reliable GOP Source: Hey, you can’t print this, but we just had a poll come back saying that [House Democrat who everybody figured was pretty safe] is down 20.

    Me: Well, that’s swell. But why can’t I use this?

    Reliable GOP Source: We don’t think the Democrats know this guy is this much trouble, so we don’t want to tip them off.

    Me: Well, thank you for sharing really cool information that I cannot share with readers.

    Reliable GOP Source: I thought it might be helpful with you determining which challengers to watch. While it would be great to have you break this news, I think it’s more useful to us to keep the Democrats in the dark.

    I’ll give you a hint, DCCC. This incumbent is bigger than a bread box.”

    Guess away.

  99. You would need a psychiatrist to answer that question with any degree of certainty. Hypothetically the possible reasons are to get a photo op, to ask for her insights on the middle east, to offer her a job if Hillary leaves office, to convince skeptics that he is bi partisan, to insulate himself against partisan attack, to develop information that can be used as a line of attack against republicans, to play mind games with adversaries, to wow her with his brilliance, to appeal to her based on common race, to quote what she said to him in a speech, etc. Whatever it is it is not for the good of the country, it is strictly for his own political advantage and I doubt it will work. Let’s face it, he has emulated Bush in most other respects.
    ______________

    You never cease to amaze me with your ability to cover all the bases.

  100. How the heck is calling someone a teabagger a sexual slur? There are male tea baggers, too. If there’s another definition of it, I’m not aware of it. A sexual slur is calling a woman a whore.

    I’m not here to persuade you, shadowfax. As anyone who was deeply involved in volunteering for the Clinton camp, I know very well once someone has made up their mind about something, persuading them to change their opinion on certain issue is almost impossible (unless it hits them personally). I just want to know what to this place where I once called home during the primary.

  101. So filbert, where the hell have you been while we have been fighting the evil slime.

    It would have been nice if you’d come contribute instead of slipping by on the quiet.

    by the way we don’t back all, we take it on a one by one basis but we are not going to take the vote a dem because they are a dem line or dont vote tea party, the dems screwed us in 2008, its time for payback and unfortunately there is going to be some collateral damage, they ensured that when they engineered that bozo’s election.

    So frankly i dont give a damn, i’m past giving a damn, maybe if you’d actually spent some time with us here, you’d see the blog develop into what it is, a big free for all with different opinions but we aint taking it lying down anymore.

  102. Huh, this will pack the Dem voters into the booths….not, its almost like they want to lose.

    Obama Administration Set to Announce Second Year of $1.3 Trillion Deficit

    WASHINGTON – The Obama administration will announce it has exceeded the $1 trillion mark in the federal deficit — predicted by Congress’ research arm last week as $1.29 trillion — for the second straight year as it projects an even larger gap between revenues and spending for fiscal year 2011.

    The Congressional Budget Office last week announced the deficit for the 2010 budget year that ended Sept. 30 was $1.29 trillion. That’s down by $125 billion from the $1.4 trillion in 2009 — the highest deficit on record. It attributed money recovered from the Troubled Asset Relief Program for the decrease.

    The Obama administration is also projecting that the deficit for the 2011 budget year, which began on Oct. 1, will climb to $1.4 trillion. Over the next decade, it will total $8.47 trillion.

    Deficits of that size will constrain the administration’s agenda over the next two years and will certainly be an issue in the 2012 presidential race.

    They have already become a problem for Democrats this election year as irate voters focus on the weak economy.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/15/government-set-announce-second-year-trillion-plus-deficit/

  103. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    I haven’t done a drive-by. I can’t be on the internet 24/7.

    Hey, filbertsf, time for a wakeup call. Thena again, resorting to emotional dribble and avoiding facts at all costs is the proven progressive way to postulate an argument.

    For example, aserting that Tea Party-endorsed candidates are the “fringe”. Please factually explain to me how 30% of the USA equates to “fringe”.

    (CNSNews.com) – The number of Americans who say they identify with the Tea Party has remained remarkably consistent — and not declined as the liberal media had predicted.

    A recent Gallup Poll (taken Aug. 27-30), finds that 30 percent of Americans say they are supporters of the Tea Party movement, while 27 percent say they are opponents – a 2 percent increase in support since March. The remainder were neutral or did not have an opinion.

  104. So frankly i dont give a damn, i’m past giving a damn, maybe if you’d actually spent some time with us here, you’d see the blog develop into what it is, a big free for all with different opinions but we aint taking it lying down anymore.

    ——-
    Well said, Moon!!!!

    Hillary Democrats are not Obamacrats. Anyone that keeps the snakes in Congress, is just fooling themselves that what was done to Hillary in the primary won’t happen again.

  105. filbertsf,

    Welcome back. I don’t think you meant that as a slur, but we’ve become sensitive to that label. The tea party issue is of ongoing interest to me because of the similarities in how they are being treated to the way Hillary was in 2008. And of course some of their rhetoric I do agree with. Not the extremism of course which every party has their share of. My understanding is that many Hillary supporters are now supporting the Tea Party as well.

    Overall, and we discussed this the other day on this board, it remains for the individual voter to hopefully vote for the best candidate out there, no matter party affiliation.

  106. filbert,

    Welcome back!

    Things got a little strange here for a while. More liberal posts are coming back now.

  107. Former Hillary supporters are now Tea Party supporters. What this country needs less of in gov’t is extremists and that’s exactly what Angle and O’Donnell are. Two of the scariest loons the Tea Party are offering up. If you think that’s change for the better, then you’re no different than the bots who fell for Obama hook, line and sinker.

    One of my favorite Senator, Russ Feingold, is losing to a Tea Party candidate. The country has gone crazy.

  108. Minor mispellings of Murkowski may be allowed but it must have both first and last name, just Murkowski will not suffice, Liza Murkowski wont count, neither would just Lisa or LM.

    No way is she ever going to get thousands of voters to do this right.

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    She better just change her name. To ‘Palin.’ 😉

  109. Well I’m glad you guys finally weighed in on the Condi Rice thing…it is freaking pisses me off. Why in the hell would he meet with someone who is seen as a failure from the last administration??? I could tell Condi has always had a thing for him….so many times I saw her shoot a huge smile his way…Colin Powell the same thing. However, Colin Powell doesn’t worry me. Condi does…we know Bambino has done everything humanly possible to get back at Hillary…this would be the ultimate slap….

    JanH, I hope you read the article I posted last night about how Condi feels about the Jews and the Palestinians….that’s what I believe they are talking about. Hillary won’t do his bidding on Israel, so he’ll get a Jew hater in there to do his dirty deed.

  110. Someone needs a slap

    EXCLUSIVE: Illinois Elections Officials Caught Lying About Military Ballots

    http://biggovernment.com/capitolconfidential/2010/10/15/exclusive-illinois-elections-officials-caught-lying-about-military-ballots/

    This is a National disgrace. The Illinois State Board of Elections has been lying about the status of military absentee ballots and a lazy Department of Justice has allowed itself to be duped.

    In an e-mail exchange between the Illinois State Board of Elections and the Department of Justice’s Voting Section shows the State has been misleading DOJ for almost a month.

  111. Imagine trying to intelligently discuss the crusades with the caveat that any mention of religion-as-motivator was taboo.

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    I haven’t seen the context on this, I’m reading posts from the last to first. But about the crusades, we need to distinguish ‘religion as a motivator to recruit cannon fodder’ from ‘religion as what really motivated the people in charge.’

    Kind of like, attacking Iraq on the pretext of fighting ‘global terrorist conspiracy’ but it’s really for oil.

    Hm, I wonder what the Al-Qaeda executives’ motive really is.

  112. to offer her some position, Sec of Defense when Gates leaves?.

    ==================

    Or Hillary’s position, SOS, when Hillary leaves? 😉

  113. I posted those three articles from work, which I don’t anymore….but I was so upset about seeing that and then I found the article about how she really feels about the Jews…I risked it to get those articles out.

    This fucking Obama, how in the world will we all put up with this bastard for 2 and possibly 6 more years??? I think he’s got something up his sleeves taunting Karl Rove like he’s been doing….he’s got something big on the rethugs because he doesn’t seem to be scared of them.

    Well I am only voting for Bill White the rest will be rethugs…then in 6 years, we’ll have to clean them out as well.

  114. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Former Hillary supporters are now Tea Party supporters.

    ——-
    I for one do support the anger of the Tea Party folks, joined in many of them decked out in full Hillary gear. I don’t support many of the people that are represented by that group, but I do agree that Obama has derailed our party and spent us into a fiscal disaster.

    If you agree with Obama’s policies, then vote for the folks that support him, if you don’t like what he has done, what are you going to do about it…keep voting like a good Democrat?

    Even though I am still a registered Dem, in hopes that Hillary will run again, I consider myself to being an Independent until I feel I can trust the Democrats again. I also worry about a women’s right to choose, but I will not let it be the only thing that keeps me voting for a party full of crooks. Either our 18 million votes count, or they don’t in the future.

  115. confloyd,

    I did read that article pretty late last night. Meant to comment on it but went to bed instead…lol…

    I was never a fan of Condi Rice but it doesn’t surprise me in the least that this is her attitude.

  116. HillaryforTexas
    October 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am

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    If you’re referring to the Whoopi walkout incident, I haven’t commented on that at all.

  117. turndown, I don’t want Condi Rice anywhere near the State, defense, or advisory dept. She is biased against the Jews. Now is not the time for someone like her to take Hillary’s job. I imagine Netanyaho can keep her in line. I think its a lovefest going on at the WH…she hope MO knows how to take care of the WH…I mean she said she could!

  118. Jan H, WHy is that, she was SOS for a religious, evangelical President that was suppose to be for Israel? The SOS is suppose to put in the President’s policies.

  119. the argument that this is simply the regulation of interstate commerce

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    WAsn’t that used successfully in the past, perhaps in WWII, against people who ate the pigs they raised in their own backyards rather than sending them through the Rationing Board?

  120. Wbboei, Do you think it was unusual that they televised nationally the O’Donnell debate and not the Reid debate??

    The freaking media makes me sick, perhaps they are really the ones we need to go after!

  121. What have I been doing? I certainly haven’t been quiet. Trying to fend off Whitman and Fiorina and prevent California from turning into a red state. Unemployment is high here and many people are desperate. They want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear. That’s what Whitman has been doing. She and Brown are neck-and-neck. Brown is not perfect, but at least he has a record of defending the working class and women. Whitman is running on a pro-business, anti-environment platform. Any candidate who thinks it’s okay to spit on and trash the Earth is a lost cause to me.

    It’s really difficult being a liberal Dem but hating the leader of your party. I go off on Obama and people think I’m a Republican. I attack the GOP and Tea Party and people think I’m a communist. It’s very schizophrenic (sorry if that term offends anyone). I haven’t forgiven Barbara Boxer for what she did during the Primary, yet I can’t bring myself to vote for Fiorina.

    Evil is not the Democratic Party, moonpluto. We are bumbling and weak, but evil is not the word. Evil is the Tea Party and the GOP who don’t care that there are million of Americans who are unemployed and don’t have healthcare.

  122. Filbertsf, unless you enjoy or are an uncoerced practitioner of the sexual activity of “teabagging”, “teabagger” is indeed a slur. It is also homophobic. [BTW, calling a genuine sexual worker a “whore” is not a slur if restricted to a “job description”. Calling someone who is not employed in the sex trade a “whore” is an insult because it implies certain things about the persons character (see “casting couch”)].

    The entire concept of calling Tea Party activists “teabaggers” was intended as a mockery by an coastal elite that disrespects those who do not agree with them. Barely out-of-the-closet Anderson Cooper helped the term gain currency when he used it on his show with a knowing nod and wink. Jeanne Garafalo, the supposed liberal, wielded the term in a notorious rant wherein she derided Tea Party activists as a bunch of “teabagging raciists”. The excuse by many of these so called liberals, PINOs, for employing the slur is that Tea Party activists sent tea bags to congressional representatives. This “fig leaf” is a transparently phony bit of reasoning to excuse use of a homophobic term by people who pride themselves on being “tolerant”.

    As to “support” for Republicans in 2010, perhaps you need to acquaint yourself with our reasoning for undiluted opposition to Obama Dimocrats and the need for doom, political death, and destruction. We have a treasure trove of writing on the subject but it boils down to this: If you vote for a Dimocrat in 2010 you are voting for Barack Obama. It is up to those voting for Barack to explain themselves, not for us to explain our opposition.

    As to the word “misogyny” – get thee to a dictionary or wiki. Misogyny (pronounced /mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred of women. Misogyny comes from Greek misogunia (μισογυνία) from misos (μῖσος, hatred) and gynē (γυνή, woman). Misogyny has little or nothing to do with what you describe it to be.

  123. confloyd

    Try not to fret over Condie taking Hillary’s job.

    Hillary holds all the cards, and if she wants to quit, she will do it because she has another plan. Hillary always plans ahead.

    Now the Fraud is all about race. He is the RACE CARD Pimp of all time, he called in African American bloggers and newsfolks the other day to push the black vote that he thinks are the only ones he can play. Condie is someone he thinks he can play with the race card too. Makes sense since he also does not support Israel. Hillary supports Israel and so this is his easy mark.

    Barry doesn’t want Hillary as VP for the same reason, she is not a YES woMan to him, she tells him the truth, Joe is comfortable doing the yes man act.

  124. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    Jan H, WHy is that, she was SOS for a religious, evangelical President that was suppose to be for Israel? The SOS is suppose to put in the President’s policies.

    ———-

    Well there is your answer right there. I never trusted Bush when it came to Israel. I never trusted his dear old dad either.

  125. “Barry doesn’t want Hillary as VP for the same reason, she is not a YES woMan to him, she tells him the truth, Joe is comfortable doing the yes man act.”

    —————
    True. But I think it is more than that. She is the only star in his cabinet. She is more popular and her achievements way outscore his own. She can run circles around him and he knows it. The guy is drowning in insecurity.

  126. filbersf:

    As for what has changed here. The scenery has changed. In 2008, first term junior Senator Obama was running against Hillary, and there was an idiot in the White House whom we despised.

    Now, there’s still an idiot in the White House whom we despise.

    I don’t think the posters here have changed, though. We are now commenting about different political developments as they arise.

    For instance, keeping the Dems in power will bring the same micro-incremental “progress” (can we claim that health care is better after passing that POS bill???), and would ensure that Obama will be the Dem nominee in 2012….and that he will lose.

    The alternative is to show the Democratic party insiders that they made a horrible mistake in installing a self-interested novice. Now they should pay the price.

    So we still hope that the Dems select Hillary as their nominee, in 2012 or 2016.

    Do you want to wait until 2016?

  127. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
    ________________________________

    There you go resorting to emotion again and ignoring facts. Please show me just one verifiable instance where a Tea Party-endorsed candidate doesn’t care about unemployed, uninsured Americans. So you’re busy fending off Fiorina and Whitman, two WOMEN that have never held public office and hence don’t have the baggage of career political hacks. Well, you must have a better alternative, right? What’s that, the alternatives are Boxer and Brown? Oh, hmmm, well yah, I was afraid that was your answer. Next you’ll be telling me that you’re sure we can count on Boxer to fight the good fight and oppose nØbama’s dismantling of our country, becasue, after all, you have plenty of facts accumulated over the past 2 years showing where Boxer actually voted against nØbama’s policies.

  128. Evil is not the Democratic Party, moonpluto. We are bumbling and weak, but evil is not the word. Evil is the Tea Party and the GOP

    =================

    If you mean ALL the people who are currently registered Dems or GOP or who say they support the Tea Party or its issues — then none of the above are evil.

    Good people have different opinions so they join different sides.

    If ‘the Dem party’ means the faction who made the decision to give Hillary’s votes and delegates to Obama etc, to use unfair procedures to pass Obamacare, who want to get rid of the Clinton faction, etc etc — then ‘evil’ isn’t too far as hyperbole/metaphor.

    If GOP means Cheney, Gingrich, etc — then ‘evil’ isn’t too far, period. Imo.
    But the Tea Party sfaik is made of good people with different but understandable opinions.

  129. Shadowfax, I am disappointed in Biden! He just does what the little skinny dictator wants!

    I just can’t wait for Hillary to quit…she is in D.C. today, but why isn’t she more involved at this point in Israel/Palestinian issue. DinnerJacket is in Lebanon trying to start WWWIII. All this going on and Nero is playing footsie with Condi! This is just appalling, our country is on the ropes and we have this basketball playing, woman hating, narcissist at the helm! This is why businesses and the American people are scared to death.

  130. Jan

    True. But I think it is more than that. She is the only star in his cabinet. She is more popular and her achievements way outscore his own. She can run circles around him and he knows it. The guy is drowning in insecurity.

    ———–
    Yes, that is very true, and if he wants more people that make him look good, he put the wrong woman in the State Dept. She gives credibility to America, but shows him up for the slacker he really is.

    Put all slackers in his cabinet and the ship will circle the drain even faster.

  131. Even Jon Ralston, who hates Sharon Angle, says Angle won (he still cannot resist the sexist “witch” references):

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/15/reid-lost-debate-angle/http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/15/reid-lost-debate-angle/

    Let’s get the easy part out of the way first:

    Sharron Angle won The Big Debate.

    Angle won because she looked relatively credible, appearing not to be the Wicked Witch of the West (Christine O’Donnell is the good witch of the Tea Party) and scoring many more rhetorical points. And she won because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid looked as if he could barely stay on a linear argument, abruptly switching gears and failing to effectively parry or thrust.

    Whether the debate affects the outcome — I believe very few Nevadans are undecided — it also perfectly encapsulated the race: An aging senator who has mastered the inside political game but fundamentally does not seem to care about his public role (and is terrible at it) versus an ever-smiling political climber who can deliver message points but sometimes changes her message or denies a previous one even existed.

    Look upon these works, ye mighty, and despair.

    As I watched the debate, I felt all the years that Nevada has striven to surmount its seamy image fading away as the nation watched this sad spectacle. As Slate’s John Dickerson wryly put it on Twitter: “After watching the Nevada Senate debate I really wish that what happens in Vegas could stay in Vegas.” [snip]

    NBC’s Chuck Todd: “Reid’s problem tonight is that while Angle wasn’t great, his performance made her look passable.”

    Politico’s Dave Catanese: “Utterly subpar.”

    Political Wire’s Taegan Goddard: “Reid didn’t knock out Angle but she had him on the ropes. Have to give the edge to Angle …”

  132. I feel for sure Condi is there for some reason and it isn’t just to talk over her experience with the middle east. Everyone knows she was a failure. He wants her there to get republican women…he knows the white dem women hate his ass. He trying to pull some of the rethugs, which really should like him….he’s followed in Bushie’s footsteps.

    I think soon the Clinton’s will be leaving the WH and venturing out on their own…which can’t happen soon enough for me!

  133. confloyd

    You are right, and we are all scared. We need a good, smart competent leader at the helm and we have Baracko, the Slick Rick Poverty Pimp.

  134. filbert,

    Many of us here plan to be selective, voting against those Dems who backstabbed Hillary in 2008 but voting for those Dems who supported her.

    Imo this is the best way to get rid of some backstabbers and send a clear message: ‘Obama no, Hillary yes.’ Imo we need to keep the good Hillary people in office so they can help her if she runs again.

    Moon said: “by the way we don’t back all, we take it on a one by one basis but we are not going to take the vote a dem because they are a dem line or dont vote tea party, the dems screwed us in 2008, its time for payback and unfortunately there is going to be some collateral damage, they ensured that when they engineered that bozo’s election.”

    I’m choosing Moon’s quote to agree with, because she and I disagree on many other things. 😉

    Of course there are other considersations that affect various contests.

  135. Those French don’t mess around with peaceful Tea Party protests, worrying about words like, “Tea Baggers”, “racist”, “socialist”… they cut the frickin’ pipeline to Paris when they get pist enough.
    Check out the massive protest photo on Drudge.

    ———

    Striking French oil refinery workers shut down a fuel pipeline supplying Paris and its airports on Friday and airport workers grounded some flights as protests mounted to derail an unpopular pension reform.

    France’s airport operator played down worries of fuel shortages, but strikes at all of France’s 12 refineries and fuel depot blockades have prompted motorists to stock up on petrol.

    Truck drivers also were set to join the fray as momentum built for a day of street rallies on Saturday.

    The widening protests have become the biggest challenge facing President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is struggling with low popularity ratings as he tries to appease financial markets by stemming a ballooning pension shortfall.

    http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE69E1AN20101015

  136. an ever-smiling political climber who can deliver message points but sometimes changes her message or denies a previous one even existed.

    ==================

    Well, that’s what Obama does.

  137. filbertsf “This isn’t about misogyny. Misogyny is not allowing a woman to decide what she can and can’t do with her body. Palin, Whitman, O’Donnell, Sharron Angle et al are all anti-choice. They’re probably the same people who maligned Hillary. These are not the people you want running our states/country. Not the people you want to align yourself with.”

    while Hillary is still important here… our country’s survival is currently more important.

    the obama agenda must be stopped at any cost. can you understand what 2 more years of the current CRAP will do to our country. I beg you to go back into the archives and read what has happened to our country while you have been gone from this website. you not only need to read the admins articles but you also need to read the comments section which have been filled with nonpartisan information about the cancer that has slowly afflicted once bright nation.

    while you might think you know about what has happened over the last few years…you dont. this website is one of the only places you can get all view points in one place from many different perspectives.

    before you go off and complain about knowing is happening and what has happened go back into the archives…

    I guarantee it is worth your time.
    mrks

  138. Friday, October 15, 2010

    Coming off a bare-knuckles debate this week, Democrat Jerry Brown hits his highest level of support to date in his race against Republican Meg Whitman to be the next governor of California.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds Brown with 50% of the vote to Whitman’s 44%. Two percent (2%) like some other candidate in the race, and four percent (4%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

  139. hmm… many PUMAs are now tea partiers.

    I know I am. I am also a birther 😉
    and cant wait to see the S.O.B. impeached, humiliated and thrown in jail.

    what he did to Hill can never ever be forgiven.

  140. This foreclosure mess is pissing me off.

    If you or I tried to make a claim on something but had zero paperwork or proof, how far would we get? Especially if the only argument we had was essentially “Oops, the dog ate my homework, but I have a legal claim, I swear. And besides, (and here’s the real sticky and important part) I went to my bookie and made bets using that item as collateral, so you have to award it to me so I can pay those bets, otherwise I’ll go bankrupt!”

    We’d be laughed out of court. But that’s precisely what the banks are doing. And our govt is hemming and hawing and squirming trying to find a way to slip that past us and bail them out yet again, by ILLEGALLY handing them properties that THEY DO NOT LEGALLY OWN by chain of title.

  141. sirmks,
    I am with you 100%. I also believe he’s was never eligible for the office, the folks that put him in are afraid now because it will further put our country at risk.
    The folks in France know how to protest…much more of Bambino’s bullshit and that is what is going to happen here.

  142. H4T, I too am so pist about that too. Some folks had even made several payments and their house was still foreclosed with NO record of the payment. What happened to the law that if a person pays a payment and the loan company accepts it…they have to wait 30 days before repoing??
    These laws have all changed under the radar by being attached to other bills and a complacent media…

  143. TVBarry with young voters, a few good questions came out, and BarryBoy spins, ducks and weaves his way though…

    Obama appeared at a live television event in his latest attempt to reach young people and recapture some of the magic from his 2008 presidential victory as polls show the Democrats trailing in the congressional vote.

    One man peppered Obama with questions about his economic policies and asked whether he would deserve re-election in 2012. “Why should we still support you going forward with your monetary economic policies, and if the economy doesn’t improve over the next two years why should we put you back in?” he asked.

    {Insert a pile excuses and spin}

    One of the moderators read two tweets where viewers were asked to state their greatest fears … “My greatest fear is that we’re turning into a communist country.” The other: “My greatest fear is that Obama will be reelected.”

    Obama acknowledged there were differences of opinion among Americans but urged civility. “We’ve got to stop the name calling,” he said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69929420101014?pageNumber=2

  144. Apparently the new slogan “Man Up” said by Sharon Angle is becoming a new catch phrase because its so emasculating…so the the women folk need to answer these whore comments with “Man up”! Lets hope Bambino gets that line sooon!

  145. HillaryforTexas
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    This foreclosure mess is pissing me off.

    ———–
    Instead of bank bailouts, there should be a class action lawsuit against this activity. Hiring folks off the street, two weeks training to sign legal documents to kick folks out of their homes…
    What else can banks get away with?

  146. We have to stop name calling…what a fucking hypocrite. We all know he has some sort of brain problem….but we all remember “your likeable enough”.

  147. confloyd, Man Up still doesn’t have quite the sexually degrading bite that “whore” does. So I was trying to think of an equivalent for men, and had to think hard, because men don’t tend to see accusations of promiscuity as a negative. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    I figure the closest we’ll get is “Eunuch”. Because for men, accusations of inadequate sexuality sting like accusations of being merely sexual do for women. I say we go around calling male politicians “impotent eunuchs” all the time. And when they complain, we’ll just roll our eyes and say it’s a just a figure of speech denoting failure to perform in their office, and they are being so silly to take it literally as a visceral assault on their person. Get over it, you are being over-sensitive.

  148. filbertsf
    October 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    ===============================

    Demonizing people because they are against abortion, and also confusing that with misogyny is wacky. Using terms like “teabagger” is perverse to say the least. I suspect that you are a bit more to the left than most Democrats, and probably one step out of Øbamaland.

  149. Sorry about my pottie mouth today, but I been pist off since I read that Condi Rice was meeting with King Obama today.

    I also heard that Palin is in trouble with Anita Dunn, for commenting on MO’s statement during the primary about “for the first time in my life I’m proud of my country”. Sarah tweeted “has she never seen a man in uniform ever”?

    That Sarah is a scraper and I like that about her. She is feisty and gives to the rethugs almost as much as she gives it to the dems….I don’t think Rove is impressed with Sarah. LOL!

  150. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    ==============================

    Compare Sharron Angle’s “man up” with Barack Øbama’s “buck up”. One sounds steady, responsible, strong, and serious. The other rhymes with “f@ck up”. Enough said.

  151. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    =============================

    That bugged me a bit today, too. I want to think that something good will come from it, but at the same time, I don’t want to look like I am trying to diminish Hillary’s current role. Why is it that he feels the need to do this? Is it a slap at Hillary in some way? I think that was my initial feeling.

  152. filbertsf, was a regular commentor here during the primary, but I don’t think he was/is a bot…just a dem who is having trouble pulling the lever for a straight rethug ticket. I can understand that…its hard for me too, but next time around we’ll have to clean out the bad rethugs….this is plan #1…we’ll get around to those ugly rethugs soon. Of coarse Sarah is pissing many of them off..LOL!

  153. nobama,
    Maybe he wanted a private piano concert while Mo was out campaigning for her cute, skinny King TuTT.

  154. Shadowfax,

    Wow, those Frenchman know how to protest their government…when they get rid of SS and raise the retirement age to 70, we’ll see what happens here…hope Obama is watching!

  155. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    ===============================

    Ha, maybe!

    Or is it that he is actually trying to learn something, or practice what he had preached from back campaign days… bipartisanship.

  156. confloyd
    October 15th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    =============================

    My reference to Øbamaland was made because I sense that filbertsf probably supports much of what Øbama “supposedly” stood for, even if Øbama hasn’t delivered, and that if another seasoned political candidate were to come along with similar ideas as Øbama, and he or she had that all important (NOT!) letter “D” after his or her name, then filbertsf would be there, no questions asked.

  157. moononpluto
    October 15th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    ===============================

    More like “Man up, you f@ck up!”

  158. holdthemaccaountable, they were hiring high-school dropouts and people off the street to come sign stuff who literally had no idea what they were signing. It was a DOCUMENT FORGERY mill, plain and simple.

  159. confloyd

    Protests over pensions and cutbacks have been going on in Calif for months, Tea Parties mainly to keep wealth for the wealthy, in the public schools to keep jobs, and education affordable to the majority.

    No one is happy here, I need to start drinking…

  160. Shadowfax,
    Drinking doesn’t help, it put 20 extra pounds on me and now I have to get them off, LOL! The country is wrecked and both parties have done it. I’m not letting anyone off the hook….its like when you catch your kids after they’ve broken your favorite vase….they all point their fingers at each other…no he did it…no she did it…what I did I spanked them both…that way I knew I would get the culprit! This is my plan! All the hollering back and forth is just ridiculous…its time to shut up and get to work fixing this crap and through out all the special interests until its fixed!

  161. Yup confloyd, I agree. Both parties will be forced to either stalemate for 2 years or work together.

    I have never drank, was kidding, but am on a diet from those darn Cheeze-its! 😉

  162. HillaryforTexas said
    October 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am
    When we discuss the crusades, we do not say that “extremists” overran Muslim cities and slaughtered people. We say that CHRISTIANS did it. We say that THE CHURCH did it.
    [….]
    there is no large sect of Christianity that preaches officially from its pulpits “go kill the filthy unbelievers

    ==================

    You have driven me to Wikipedia, but “The Sixth Crusade was the first crusade to set sail without the official blessing of the Pope.[6]” Apparently the whole thing was originally fomented by Pope/s, was an official project of the Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox church. It was sponsored by the REAL official top of Christianity.

    Osama bin Laden is not the Pope. If any Muslim clerics not in hiding are actually preaching some modern crusade against the west, they are not the Pope either. Even Krauthammer can only estimate 7% of Muslims ‘supporting’ such an idea, and he apparently means accountants who donate to those churches, etc.

    Calling the literal violent jihadists (if any) a “large sect” is like calling Rev Wright’s ‘Liberation Theology’ a “large sect” of Christians.

    As for doing something ‘in the name of Jesus’ or saying ‘Jesus commanded them’ — so said Jim Jones, the Heaven’s Gate people, etc.

    Jim Jones of Jonestown, ‘Heaven’s Gate’ — or the Westboro Baptist Church.

  163. Ooooooo, I bet Seniors are gonna throw away their canes and jump for joy over all the goodies they can buy with this one…

    Will it win back senior votes with this pittance?
    Not when both parties are planning to up the age to collect.
    Seniors might be older but they aren’t dumb!!!

    —-

    President Obama is calling for a $250 rebate for seniors after the Social Security Administration announced Friday that interest rates in 2010 haven’t risen enough to justify an increase in benefits next year to the 58 million retirees and disabled Americans who receive the entitlement.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/15/obama-proposes-rebate-seniors-deprived-social-security-benefit-hike/

  164. You guys have a good night, I’m going to work…hopefully nothing will happen that makes me want to risk posting at work…but it is Friday…so who knows??

    When is the October surprise coming??? Condi anyone???

  165. Oh yeah, one more thing….what going to happen to sleeveless for campaigning at a polling station….nothing no doubt…geez the folks live by NO rulz….perhaps we should consult with Brazille about the rulz her mama taught her???

  166. supports much of what Øbama “supposedly” stood for, even if Øbama hasn’t delivered

    ========================

    So does Hillary.

    Obama was running (falsely) on a lot of real Democrat issues. Clinton issues. FDR issues.

    The fact that Obama was false, doesn’t mean the issues are false. We need a REAL healthcare plan, like Hillary’s. A REAL bank reform, like Hillary’s. ETc.

  167. I was trying to think of an equivalent for men, and had to think hard, because men don’t tend to see accusations of promiscuity as a negative. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    I figure the closest we’ll get is “Eunuch”. Because for men, accusations of inadequate sexuality sting like accusations of being merely sexual do for women. I say we go around calling male politicians “impotent eunuchs” all the time. And when they complain, we’ll just roll our eyes and say it’s a just a figure of speech denoting failure to perform in their office, and they are being so silly to take it literally as a visceral assault on their person. Get over it, you are being over-sensitive.

    =================

    We already say that about male politicians we don’t like, quite often.

    “Grow a pair”, “lacks cojones”, etc.

    Anybody want to bet that no one here has ever used the ‘wh..e’ word against Andrea Mitchell? Or Taylor Marsh?

  168. Obama was running (falsely) on a lot of real Democrat issues. Clinton issues. FDR issues.

    The fact that Obama was false, doesn’t mean the issues are false. We need a REAL healthcare plan, like Hillary’s. A REAL bank reform, like Hillary’s. ETc.

    —–
    Yup, Hillary was the real deal, Obama was the real Fraud.
    Everything he touches turns to crap.

    Could Hillary even make Universal Health care out of Obamacare?

    If the Rethugs win in 2012 and toss Obamacare out, will it be MORE difficult to pass her health care plan?

  169. turndownobama
    October 15th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    You have driven me to Wikipedia, but “The Sixth Crusade was the first crusade to set sail without the official blessing of the Pope.[6]” Apparently the whole thing was originally fomented by Pope/s, was an official project of the Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox church. It was sponsored by the REAL official top of Christianity.

    Osama bin Laden is not the Pope. If any Muslim clerics not in hiding are actually preaching some modern crusade against the west, they are not the Pope either. Even Krauthammer can only estimate 7% of Muslims ’supporting’ such an idea, and he apparently means accountants who donate to those churches, etc.

    Calling the literal violent jihadists (if any) a “large sect” is like calling Rev Wright’s ‘Liberation Theology’ a “large sect” of Christians.

    As for doing something ‘in the name of Jesus’ or saying ‘Jesus commanded them’ — so said Jim Jones, the Heaven’s Gate people, etc.

    Jim Jones of Jonestown, ‘Heaven’s Gate’ — or the Westboro Baptist Church.

    The Crusades has been used as a counter argument for terrorism, attempting to create an equivalence between Islam and Christianity. This is an invalid argument. The Crusades was a response to hundreds of years of Muslim aggression. Without the Muslim aggression there would have been no crusades.

  170. turndownobama
    October 15th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Calling the literal violent jihadists (if any) a “large sect” is like calling Rev Wright’s ‘Liberation Theology’ a “large sect” of Christians.

    As for doing something ‘in the name of Jesus’ or saying ‘Jesus commanded them’ — so said Jim Jones, the Heaven’s Gate people, etc.

    Jim Jones of Jonestown, ‘Heaven’s Gate’ — or the Westboro Baptist Church.

    It is not the number of adherents that is important, it is the doctrine. If you think that the terrorists are terrorists because they have misinterpreted Islamic doctrine, then you are ignorant of Islam and the Quran. If anything, the terrorists are the true adherents of Islam.

  171. rickya
    October 15th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    _________________________________

    “….the terrorists are the true adherents of Islam.”

    Simple, concise, 100% correct.

  172. Secretary Clinton and Former Secretary of State Dr. Henry Kissinger participate in “The Secretaries: Conversations On Diplomacy”

    Office of the Spokesman
    Washington, DC
    October 15, 2010

    On October 20th, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Former Secretary of State Dr. Henry Kissinger will participate in the first of a series called “The Secretaries: Conversations on Diplomacy.”

    Co-sponsored by HBO, the Conversation will enable the Secretaries to discuss the issues of the day and reflect on their experiences as America’s top diplomat. Michael Beschloss, an award-winning historian, will moderate the Conversation. New Foreign Service Officers, members of the Diplomatic Corps, current State Department employees and policy leaders will be present in the audience.

    Discussion topics for the Conversation have also been suggested and promoted on The Sounding Board, the State Department’s internal online idea forum for domestic and overseas employees.

    The event will also launch the 50th Anniversary Patrons of Diplomacy Initiative for the Diplomatic Reception Rooms at the Department of State.

    For fifty years, the art of diplomacy has thrived in the State Department’s Diplomatic Reception Rooms against a stunning backdrop of American art and architecture from the time of our country’s founding and of its formative years. The historic suite of forty two rooms contains a museum-caliber collection of American fine and decorative art, including 5,000 objects from the period of 1750-1825. In these rooms, the United States has signed treaties and conducted summit negotiations, hosted peace talks and facilitated trade agreements.

    The Patrons of Diplomacy Initiative will ensure that the Rooms and collection continue to provide an extraordinary backdrop for American diplomacy.

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/10/149516.htm

  173. Could Hillary even make Universal Health care out of Obamacare?

    ======================

    Hillary and Bill seem to think so. I dunno.

  174. Game on in Connecticut : McMahon within 5 of Blumenthal.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/connecticut/election_2010_connecticut_senate

    Democrat Richard Blumenthal now leads Republican Linda McMahon by just five points in Connecticut’s race for the U.S. Senate in a survey conducted two nights after their third and final head-to-head debate.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey of Likely Voters shows Blumenthal, Connecticut’s longtime attorney general, picking up 51% of the vote. McMahon, the former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, earns the vote from 46%. One percent (1%) prefer some other candidate, while three percent (3%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    The latest numbers move the race from Solid Democrat to Leans Democrat in the Rasmussen Reports Election 2010 Senate Balance of Power rankings.

    Just over a week ago, Blumenthal opened a 54% to 43% lead over McMahon the night after their first debate. While the race was closer in several surveys since January, Blumenthal has always held the lead. In 13 surveys this year, the Democrat has drawn 47% to 60% of the vote. McMahon has picked up 31% to 46% support during that same period.

  175. It is not the number of adherents that is important, it is the doctrine.

    ===================

    No, it’s the number.

  176. Tom in Paine

    A recent CNN poll has finally delivered the coup de grace to Obama. When asked who they thought was the better president Obama topped Bush by 47%-45% – a statistical dead heat.

    While it was clear to a majority of Democrats during the primary that Obama was the weakest and least qualified major presidential candidate in the history of the Democratic party, and has performed to those expectations, to be viewed on the same level as Bush has to be a new low. Bush, without question was the worst most inept incompetent unqualified president in American history. From his dismissal of terrorism as a real threat which led to the 911 attacks being successful, destroying the balanced budget, creating record deficits, and then policies that led to the current economic crisis, Bush’s presidency did more damage to the United States in 8 years than any foreign enemy of the United States could do in 240. And yet Obama is now considered even with him in the eyes of the American voter.

    Obama is certainly the worst president the Democrats ever had, blowing the public option on healthcare, the single most important piece of legislation since the Civil Rights Act, underestimating the depth of the economic crisis as Biden admitted ( though he keeps reminding people how bad he knew it was when he took office) went with a stimulus that was too small, then gutted financial reform. all to appease Republicans. Then he was as inept dealing with the oil spill as Bush was with Katrina ( though there was no loss of human life involved as it was with Katrina) . Obama has accomplished nothing of real value since he’s been in office and even Democrats who voted for his legislation could only call it “better than nothing”. And this, even though Obama’s had the biggest congressional majority to work with in decades and its why there is such little enthusiasm among Democrats in the fall elections. And why congressional Democrats are in such trouble.

    http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/

  177. It is not the number of adherents that is important, it is the doctrine.

    ===================

    No, it’s the number.

    —-

    Actually I should have said it’s the PERCENTAGE. Krauthammer claims 7% of Mulsims ‘support’ the jihadist factions. Probably it’s less. Anyway perhaps roughly comparable to the percentage of Americans who ‘support’ Wright’s Liberation Theology, ie donate to those churches.

    The small size of this percentage is important when we:

    1. consider how likely we are to be effectively attacked again
    2. generalize about ‘Muslims’ or ‘Islam’.

    Especially when how we talk, 2, affects how the percentage shrinks or grows, which affects 1, how likely we are to be attacked again.

  178. Is the NYTs finally waking up to reality?

    Enough Tea Party-supported candidates are running strongly in competitive and Republican-leaning Congressional races that the movement stands a good chance of establishing a sizable caucus to push its agenda in the House and the Senate, according to a New York Times analysis.

    With a little more than two weeks till Election Day, 33 Tea Party-backed candidates are in tossup races or running in House districts that are solidly or leaning Republican, and 8 stand a good or better chance of winning Senate seats.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/us/politics/15teaparty.html?_r=1&ref=politics

  179. The democrats lost me with their sexist attacks on Hillary. The democrats lost me when Sandra Bernhard said Sarah Palin should be raped by a gang of black men. Democrats lost me with their sexist attacks on Meg Whitman. It’s going to take a hell of lot of work to get me back.

  180. they were hiring high-school dropouts and people off the street to come sign stuff who literally had no idea what they were signing. It was a DOCUMENT FORGERY mill, plain and simple.
    ———————-
    Sorry, I was not clear in my attempt at snark; was referring to Congress and O voting/signing legislation which they had not read.

  181. Imo we may be wrongly projecting our view of the Crusades onto the current ‘jihadist’ situation.

    The Crusades really were begun and backed by the Christian ‘establishment’ at that time: the Pope, the Greek Orthodox organization, etc. Way before the Reformation, Christendom really was, compared to today, rather monolithic.

    But Islam now is not monolithic. It’s deeply split. Different factions are even warring with each other.

    To reduce the scale, think of Prots and Catholics fighting in Ireland. 7% of them belong to the Branch Dravidians, who want to fight both Prots and Caths. These Branch Dravidians pull off a terrorist attack on Japan. — Does Japan blame ALL Christians or even ALL of Ireland?

    That’s what happened here. A crazy splinter group, Al Qaeda, that wanted to start trouble between the US and the major factions of Islam — has succeeded in starting bad trouble.

  182. Is the NYTs finally waking up to reality?

    Enough Tea Party-supported candidates are running strongly in competitive and Republican-leaning Congressional races that the movement stands a good chance of establishing a sizable caucus to push its agenda in the House and the Senate, according to a New York Times analysis.

    With a little more than two weeks till Election Day, 33 Tea Party-backed candidates are in tossup races or running in House districts that are solidly or leaning Republican, and 8 stand a good or better chance of winning Senate seats.

    ______________

    To me that is very simple. If you get another group who has a tin ear, kick them out. Don’t let another group take advantage of your anger. Lou Dobbs has been saying for years if a member of congress doesn’t do his job, kick the bum out. I am with him all the way. However, you are all human and you are prepared to kick them all out, except your own bums, who you have grown to know and somewhat trust. Don’t be foolish like Canada was. You have to kick them all out if they don’t do their jobs, period. We kicked out all members of our Conservative Party except for 2 after Mulroney and then elected a new party(the Reform Party with supposed ideals that we stood for) and voted for them. They were not going to be pigs at the trough. Once they got in they symbolically threw away the keys to the cars given to them as perks. That was the last we heard of their “I’m you” philosophy. They turned out to be worse than the Conservatives and now have taken on the name of the Conservative party. The only thing I can say for Canadians is that they haven’t given our Conservative Party a majority government and God help us if we ever do. I shudder to think what they have planned as I see the majority of them as thugs. I am fed up with the Liberals as well. I would like moderates, which are difficult to find, but one can hope.

    You have to be vigilant for many years to come if you want to take your country back and if you are not prepared to be vigilant, you will get the same old thing, wearing differnt colours.
    Just saying.

  183. Oh yeah, one more thing….what going to happen to sleeveless for campaigning at a polling station….nothing no doubt…geez the folks live by NO rulz….perhaps we should consult with Brazille about the rulz her mama taught her???
    _________________

    I would be careful about consulting with Brazille about the rulz. Mama forgot another important rule “Thou Shalt Not Steal.” So much for mama. I’m tempted to email her again. I used to get amused with all her emails back to me that started with “Stop the hate.

  184. Recently hospitalized, I’ve been waiting for the survey documenting my assessment of services rendered during the stay. The paperwork arrived today. As expected, it was sent by the hospital which cared for me. Unexpected in the cover letter was this statement:
    “This survey is part of an ongoing national project that will provide meaningful comparisons on issues of hospital care that are important to all consumers. The overall hospital results will be publicly reported and available to consumers at www dot hospitalcompare.lhhs.gov These results will help consumers make choices about hospital care and will help hospitals improve the care they provide.” And at the bottom of the letter, “The number on the bottom of the survey is used ONLY to tell us if you returned your survey so we don’t send you reminders. According to the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995, no persons are required to respond to a collection of information unless it displays a valid OMB control number. The valid OMB control number for this information collection is 0938-0981. ….If you have any comments concerning the accuracy of the time estimate(s) or suggestions for improving this form, please write to: Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, 7500 Security Boulevard, C1-25-05, Baltimore, MD 21244-1850. Thank you! Your answers may be shared with the hospital for quality improvement. Return to: 710 Rush Street, South Bend IN 46601.”
    Included in the mailing is a business reply mail envelope, postage paid. It is addressed to Survey Processing Department, Press Ganey, PO Box 7600, South Bend IN 46699-0559.
    Apparently there are two places in Indiana accepting this form. Already ObamaCare is as inaccurate/inefficient as Obama’s FEC files.

  185. HOLDER = ASHCROFT

    With more and more of the country coming to accept this, either as medical marijuana, or a way to raise taxes, or a way to keep / get non-violent offenders out of jails, it’s a shame that Obama’s AG is going to fight common sense.

    Bet the DailyKos and HuffPosters are crying into their bongwater tonight.

    yahoo.com/s/ap/20101015/ap_on_re_us/us_marijuana_legalization_justice

    Feds oppose Calif. Prop 19 to legalize marijuana
    ============================

    By MARCUS WOHLSEN and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer Marcus Wohlsen And Pete Yost, Associated Press Writer – 50 mins ago
    SAN FRANCISCO – Attorney General Eric Holder says the federal government will enforce its marijuana laws in California even if voters next month make the state the first in the nation to legalize the drug.

    The Justice Department strongly opposes California’s Proposition 19 and remains firmly committed to enforcing the federal Controlled Substances Act in all states, Holder wrote in a letter to former chiefs of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the letter, dated Wednesday.

    “We will vigorously enforce the CSA against those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture or distribute marijuana for recreational use, even if such activities are permitted under state law,” Holder wrote.

    The attorney general also said that legalizing recreational marijuana in California would be a “significant impediment” to the government’s joint efforts with state and local law enforcement to target drug traffickers, who often distribute marijuana alongside cocaine and other drugs.

    He said the ballot measure’s passage would “significantly undermine” efforts to keep California communities safe.

    The ex-DEA chiefs sent a letter to Holder in August calling on the Obama administration to sue California if Proposition 19 passes. They said legalizing pot presented the same threat to federal authority as Arizona’s recent immigration law that spurred a federal lawsuit.

    If California voters approve the ballot measure, the state would become the first to legalize and regulate recreational pot use. Adults could possess up to one ounce of the drug and grow small gardens on private property. Local governments would decide whether to allow and tax sales of the drug.

    The state has clashed with federal authorities over marijuana since 1996, when voters approved a first-of-its-kind ballot measure that allowed people to grow and use pot for medical purposes. Thirteen other states and the District of Columbia have legalized medical marijuana.

    Under federal law, marijuana is still strictly illegal. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government has the right to enforce its ban regardless of state law.

    During the Bush administration, retail pot dispensaries across the state faced regular raids from federal anti-drug agents. Their owners were sometimes sentenced to decades in prison for drug trafficking.

    Yet the medical marijuana industry still grew, and has expanded even more since Holder said last year that federal law enforcement would defer to state laws on using it for medicinal purposes.

    Some legal scholars and policy analysts have questioned how much the Justice Department could really do on the ground to halt a state-sanctioned recreational pot trade.

    Nearly all arrests for marijuana crimes are made at the state level. Of more than 847,000 marijuana-related arrests in 2008, for example, just over 6,300 suspects were booked by federal law enforcement, or fewer than 1 percent.

    Los Angeles County’s top law enforcers said Friday the federal government would still have help from them regardless of the vote’s outcome on Proposition 19.

    County Sheriff Lee Baca and District Attorney Steve Cooley said at a news conference that the law would be unenforceable because it is trumped by federal laws that prohibit marijuana cultivation and possession.

    “We will continue as we are today regardless of whether it passes or doesn’t pass,” Baca said. His deputies don’t and won’t go after users in their homes, but public use of the drug will be targeted, he said.

    A spokesman for Attorney General Jerry Brown declined to comment on how the Democratic gubernatorial candidate would respond as governor to a federal crackdown if Proposition 19 passes.

    “We have to win and it has to pass before we get to answering that question,” spokesman Sterling Clifford said. Brown is opposed to Proposition 19.

    Meg Whitman’s campaign did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment. During a recent debate, the Republican candidate for governor reiterated her strong stance against legalizing pot.

    “I think this is not the right thing for our young people. It’s not the right thing for our community of citizens of California, but don’t ask me. Ask law enforcement.”

  186. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69E5D620101015

    Democratic candidates are clinging to narrow leads over their Republican rivals in two key California races with less than three weeks to go until November 2 elections, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Friday.

    Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer’s lead over Republican Carly Fiorina among likely voters in California is only one point, 46 percent to 45 percent, down from a four-point advantage early this month.

    Boxer is a key ally of President Barack Obama, who is to campaign for her and other Democrats next week in California. Fiorina is a former CEO of Hewlett-Packard.

  187. Go Carly! You have great hair! (just kidding). Kick Senator Ma’am out of California. Then you will be on the hot seat. Do a great job or yur out! I personally think you did great things with lucent and good things with HP. You told them their shares would go down with the purchase of Compaq but did they listen…NOOOOOO! I am voting for you republican woman. First time ever Republican voter. See obambi, what you did to me?

  188. Well, if Carly Fiorina is down by just 1% point in this poll, then she actually must be winning since the polls are probably skewed toward Democrats. Glory, glory, glory! ☺

  189. California looks like a real toss up, it could go either, it all depends on who is hungrier for it.

    There’s no enthusiasm for Boxer and that is a real bad thing when undecideds go into the booth.

  190. Gather around, y’all. You’re going to like this.

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-pelosi-and-obama-at-war/

    Our White House Insider reveals shocking revelations of an ongoing battle between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Obama White House, as well as an enraged Michelle Obama taking on former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and Hillary Clinton keeping Obama guessing.

    Author’s Note: As our many readers know, our last discussion with our Washington D.C. Insider source revealed that the media was about to release speculative reports of a Hillary Clinton Vice Presidential offer from the Obama White House. Within 48 hours of publication, such noted media outlets as CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and Drudge were all reporting on that very topic. While not the first time the Insider proved accurate in their predictions, it was certainly the most notable to date.

    _____

    Nice to see you again – so you indicated you were given the “green light” to shed some more personal details regarding past events involving members of the White House and Congress. Who gave you that green light? I won’t say anything more on that specifically beyond simply stating that this individual is no longer burdened by the requirements of their position at the White House. So yes, I was told I could speak more freely now, and that is what I intend to do. I’m happy to do it in fact. And I’m happy to see some more people quietly coming forward also.

    Well, you do realize that what you are describing points a very possible finger at Rahm Emanuel, right? He has just left his position at the White House. That is your position, not mine – and don’t expect me to clarify it.

    So Rahm Emanuel is not the one that gave you the go ahead to speak more freely? No comment on that. But I do have a lot of information I am prepared to share with you if you wish to hear it.

    Ok…do you have any details on former Chief of Staff Emanuel’s departure? Sure. (long pause)

    Well go ahead – what… (interrupts) Rahm Emanuel left the White House willingly, but he was also under strong suggestion to leave. He has not been a dominant figure in the West Wing for some time now.

    He was the White House Chief of Staff – how could he not have been a dominant figure? He has been marginalized. Pushed aside. Even his direct access to the president was reduced more recently. It happens. There is always an ongoing fight to gain the ear of the president. Rahm lost that fight, and now he is gone. If he hadn’t left, I am certain he would have been forced out, which would have been no easy task because the guy is a fighter.

    Who marginalized him? Good question.

    Thank you – but do you have the answer? Sure… (clears throat) It was mainly three people. Valerie Jarret, David Axelrod, and Michelle Obama.

    The First Lady? Michelle Obama wanted Rahm Emanual out as Chief of Staff? Why? Why? From what I was told, she never trusted Rahm. Not totally anyways. And when Rahm voiced his opinion in opposition of moving on health care, she and Jarret were apparently offended. Those two were the primary opposition against Emanuel, with Axelrod acting as the go between. Eventually, Axelrod sided with Jarret and the First Lady, and Rahm was left standing on his own- especially after Larry left. There was apparently an open fight between the two at one point.

    Between Rahm Emanuel and Michelle Obama? Yes. A loud shouting match. She stood over Rahm and told him to shut the -expletive- up. Pointed her finger right into his face and told him to shut the -expletive- up.

    You heard this yourself? No-no. It was told to me by…someone who was there. Very close to the situation. Very close.

    Was the president there? Yes, he was standing nearby. He heard the exchange.

    What did he do? Nothing. He apparently ignored it.

    You mean to say that the First Lady and the White House Chief of Staff are shouting at each other, and the President of the United States stood there and did nothing? Yes – that is correct. It is my understanding Obama did nothing. Rahm stormed back to his office and that was that. At least until David came to him the next day and said the president told him it might be time for Rahm to move on from the White House.

    David – David Axelrod? Yeah – Axelrod. He came to the Chief of Staff and informed him the president was considering replacing him, though no concrete decision had been made yet. It was obviously to allow Rahm a way out on his own. To save face. I think that was Axelrod’s gesture, not the president’s. I don’t believe the president was really concerned about it one way or the other. It was politics, staff, procedure – all things President Obama cares little for. I don’t believe he’s terribly comfortable with the one-one-one thing. No script. No approving audience. No Obama…

    So the president didn’t speak to Rahm himself on the subject? Not a word about it. As I said, President Obama doesn’t appear to care about those things. And even for the White House Chief of Staff access to the president was becoming a bit more…tedious.

    Axelrod was limiting access to the president? Not so much Axelrod, but Jarret. Some already consider her the de facto White House Chief of Staff, and have for some time now. She is very close to the Obamas. Very protective – as is Michelle Obama of her.

    Ok, so we have conflict between Rahm Emanuel, Valerie Jarret and Michelle Obama. You also told me you had information about what you described as a “war” between the White House and Nancy Pelosi. Go ahead and tell us what that is all about. Sure-sure. As I have indicated in earlier interviews, Pelosi feels she went to bat for the White House over health care, right? And she did. She pushed and prodded and got the votes. But she was also promised by the White House political cover for those who voted. The kind of cover that would allow Democrats to keep Congress after the midterms, and for Pelosi to keep her position as Speaker. The White House failed to do so and as time went on Pelosi has become more and more upset. Initially she and Rahm were in opposition on this issue you know. Rahm didn’t want to push for healthcare, but Pelosi, and others in the White House, were for it. Pelosi wanted it to be her legacy vote, right? Her shining moment as Speaker. Well, she got her vote, but it came at great cost, and now her legacy is being tarnished partly by a White House who sold her on unkept promises. And she’s extremely upset about it. Rahm had warned her that she and the Democrats could end up paying a high price for that healthcare vote but she ignored those warnings. Following the vote, as time went on, she came to realize how right Rahm was.

    Are you saying Pelosi and Rahm became allies? That might be too strong a term. Let’s just say they developed a mutual appreciation for just how difficult it was to trust some within this White House. Here is something I found interesting when it was shared with me. You want to know what Pelosi thinks of Barack Obama? The phrase that was forwarded to me that is said to have come from her?

    Absolutely. Now I’m paraphrasing here a bit, but this is the gist of it. “If the president wants a war then that is what he is going to get. I’m done playing patsy to this -expletive- White House. If that -expletive- wants to throw me under his -expletive- bus, then bring it on.

    A war? There is a war between Pelosi and Obama? Yes. As extreme as that sounds, that pretty much sums up the situation now between the Speaker and the White House. They are certainly not on friendly terms. Did you notice how there was almost no public comments coming from Pelosi for weeks? She went quiet. Apparently she was directed by White House staff to minimize her public comments in the final months prior to the midterms because she had become such a political liability. That is how she was described by the White House – a liability. White House staff told that to her face. And you know what? The speaker went along with it. It had to be tough, because she is as proud a woman as you will find, but she conceded to the White House’s request that she remain quiet. At least for a while. Now she is speaking out again, and if you read her words carefully, you can see them being directed at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, as well as her own Democrats in Congress. She is now reasserting herself as the leader of the party, no longer trusting the White House to deliver an effective message to voters. I believe the lame duck session following the midterms is going to prove extremely…interesting.

    You sound like you respect her for that. Absolutely. I am not necessarily a big fan of Speaker Pelosi on a personal level, but she has done everything this White House has asked of her, and then some. And for that she was told to be quiet? To stay out of the way? I’m appalled that the White House treated her in such a way. I’m appalled at how this White House has treated so many Democrats. It is simply unacceptable. So if Speaker Pelosi finally decides to fight back and fight for Democrats against the Obama White House, yeah – I respect that. I respect it a lot. Good for her. I sure as hell don’t blame her.

    Shifting gears back to our last conversation – do you still feel Hillary Clinton will either be Obama’s next Vice President or run against him in 2012? Yes – and yes. (laughs) As I said, it is either one or the other. I am absolutely certain of it. ABSOLUTELY 100% certain. And the Obama White House is hoping Secretary Clinton accepts the offer of Vice President, because they certainly don’t want to face the battle that would be the primary between Clinton and Obama. Some Clinton supporters have quietly initiated a number of state to state internals recently that show a very positive trend in her favor if such a primary battle were to be waged. Very favorable.

    Internals? Internal polling. Very tactical stuff. And it’s looking good for Hillary Clinton right now. That could change of course – drastically change, if the economy were to improve even marginally prior to the 2012 elections.

    If the polling is so favorable to Hillary Clinton, why haven’t they went ahead and published that polling? Great question! The answer is simple. If she were to approve publishing such polls, it would be an open declaration of intent, and at this point, it appears Hillary Clinton is playing a very well executed game with President Obama. She has him guessing at every nuance of every word she utters. I told you some time ago that Obama truly fears Hillary Clinton. That fear has only grown in recent weeks. So much so that they are now offering the position of Vice President to her to keep her under some semblance of control. It will be fascinating to see what her next step is. I can guarantee you this – she is leaving Obama guessing, and likely enjoying a lot of satisfaction at being able to do so. I know I’m enjoying it!

    So no specific ideas yet on which of those two choices Hillary Clinton will ultimately take? Oh, I have my ideas. Absolutely! I really think she’s still 50/50 though. It all depends on how badly the midterms turn out for the Democrats. I knew the media was going to release some speculative “Hillary as Vice President” stories because I was told first hand by someone directly involved in the publication of one of those stories. But guess who told them? (brief pause) The White House.

    The White House wanted the media to report on the possibility of Hillary becoming Vice President? Why? To get the story out there before the midterms. To test it with supporters, to see if it was something viable for 2012, and to get ahead of it before someone in the Clinton camp did so themselves. The Obama White House is trying to regain control of the situation, but I think they played right into Hillary’s hands on this one. You know what the majority of politicos are saying about Hillary as Vice President?

    What? Why would she want to be Vice President when she could be President – in 2012? There is a growing number who are thinking if she wants it, it’s hers to have IF the economy does not improve.

    And you agree with that sentiment?

    Yes – yes I do.

  191. Reid’s corrupt history back in the news again…..

    AP Exclusive: Harry Reid Got $1M in Land Sale (Hadn’t owned the property for three years)

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn’t personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.

    In the process, Reid did not disclose to Congress an earlier sale in which he transferred his land to a company created by a friend and took a financial stake in that company, according to records and interviews.

    The Nevada Democrat’s deal was engineered by Jay Brown, a longtime friend and former casino lawyer whose name surfaced in a major political bribery trial this summer and in other prior organized crime investigations. He’s never been charged with wrongdoing—except for a 1981 federal securities complaint that was settled out of court.

    Land deeds obtained by The Associated Press during a review of Reid’s business dealings show:

    _The deal began in 1998 when Reid bought undeveloped residential property on Las Vegas’ booming outskirts for about $400,000. Reid bought one lot outright, and a second parcel jointly with Brown. One of the sellers was a developer who was benefiting from a government land swap that Reid supported. The seller never talked to Reid.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=d8kmj8i00&show_article=1

  192. You want a balanced view, go to the UK, go read.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8067413/Senate-Democrat-leader-battling-to-save-Nevada-seat.html

    Senate Democrat leader battling to save Nevada seat
    Harry Reid, the most powerful Democrat in the United States Senate, is battling to save his career after coming off second best in a bruising televised debate with his Tea Party rival Sharron Angle, a former teacher and grandmother with no national political experience.

  193. If there is anything credible in “The Insider’s” report, than Barack had better be careful. If Pelosi gets mad, and wants to get even, she may just discover some long-lost paperwork of Candidate Obama that could void his Presidency. And just like that The Speaker becomes the first Woman President! LOL!!!!

  194. and if the Insider is truthful – it just goes to show AGAIN how right Admin has been….

    Obama cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

  195. turndownobama
    October 15th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    It is not the number of adherents that is important, it is the doctrine.

    ===================

    No, it’s the number.

    —-

    Actually I should have said it’s the PERCENTAGE. Krauthammer claims 7% of Mulsims ’support’ the jihadist factions. Probably it’s less. Anyway perhaps roughly comparable to the percentage of Americans who ’support’ Wright’s Liberation Theology, ie donate to those churches.

    The small size of this percentage is important when we:

    1. consider how likely we are to be effectively attacked again
    2. generalize about ‘Muslims’ or ‘Islam’.

    Especially when how we talk, 2, affects how the percentage shrinks or grows, which affects 1, how likely we are to be attacked again.

    You want to talk percentages? A full 5% of Muslims think that attacks on Civilians is justified. If there are 1 billion Muslims, that is a total of 50 million people who think this way. With 50 million people who think that attacks on civilians are justified, it is scary to think about the likelihood of another attack.

    I am not generalizing about Islam based on the percentages. I am commenting on what the Quran is saying. The question that you would have to ask is where is the Quran with regard to this question? On this question, the Quran is on the side of the 5%. Islam is a hateful religion and its strict adherents are evil.

  196. turndownobama
    October 15th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    That’s what happened here. A crazy splinter group, Al Qaeda, that wanted to start trouble between the US and the major factions of Islam — has succeeded in starting bad trouble.

    This reveals to me your ignorance about Islam. Al Qaeda is not a crazy splinter group, it IS Islam. This is the ISLAM that Muhammad practiced. Now, am I saying that all Muslims are evil – NO. But they are sane NOT because of Islam but inspite of it.

  197. Thanks, nomobama that was a great read. I figured Hill would wait until after the midterms…then let the sparks fly. She, with the help of the American people, must kick that loser out of office, plus the unelected ones Mechelle, Valerie, Axelrod and countless others……19 days……

  198. The judge also used strong language to reject the government’s courtroom characterization of the penalty imposed on the uninsured as a tax. Government lawyers have argued it is a tax because Congress is given broad authority under the Constitution to levy taxes.

    But the judge took pains to note that Congress referred to the fines in the legislation as a penalty, and that Mr. Obama denied it was a tax increase. Calling it an “Alice-in-Wonderland tack,” Judge Vinson wrote that Congress had tried to reap a political advantage during the debate by denying it was imposing a tax, and then sought a legal advantage in court by insisting it had done so.

    ===============

    SAdly, I’m afraid the moral here is that voters don’t care. Politicians can be blatantly dishonest, openly dishonest, in their arguments, and no one really cares.

  199. Philosophical difference. Islam, or Christianity, or any religion, IS what the majority of its members say it is. If a religion is split 95-5, then the 5% is the splinter group.

    The ‘real meaning’ of the ancient scriptures is whatever the current majority says it is. They re-translate or ignore as they wish.

  200. OMG, this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read! Iowahawk does Obama playing an old-school computer adventure role-playing game:

    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2010/10/beltway-adventure.html

    BELTWAY ADVENTURE

    WELCOME TO ADVENTURE! WOULD YOU LIKE INSTRUCTIONS?

    >YES

    YOU ARE SOMEWHERE IN BELTWAY FOREST, WHERE SOME HAVE FOUND TREASURES OF GOLD ALTHOUGH SOME HAVE ENTERED AND NEVER BEEN SEEN AGAIN. MAGIC IS SAID TO WORK IN THE FOREST. I WILL BE YOUR EYES AND HANDS. DIRECT ME WITH SIMPLE COMMANDS.

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. THERE IS SNOW OUTSIDE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. ON DESK THERE IS A BUST OF CHURCHILL.

    YOU HAVE A CONGRESS.

    YOU HAVE A SENATE.

    YOU HAVE A MEDIA.

    YOU HAVE A TELEPROMPTER.

    YOU HAVE A MILITARY.

    YOU HAVE A BIG JET.

    YOU HAVE $3 TRILLION OF GOLD.

    YOU HAVE 82% APPROVAL HEALTH.

    THERE IS 7.2% UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST.

    YOU HAVE A RACE CARD.

    YOU HAVE INAUGURAL PARTY LEFTOVERS.

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >EAT LEFTOVERS

    >RETURN BUST

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. ON DESK THERE IS NO BUST OF CHURCHILL. THERE ARE NO MORE LEFTOVERS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >GIVE SPEECH

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 81%. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >NAME TEAM

    ENTER TEAM NAMES. GIVE THEM WEAPONS AND SPECIAL POWERS SEPARATED BY COMMA. WHEN YOU ARE DONE PRESS CTL-T

    >BIDEN, BRAIN
    >HILLARY, RESET BUTTON
    >HOLDER, LAW
    >GEITHNER, GOLD
    >RAHM, CURSES
    >JARRETT, FASHION
    >AXELROD, MUSTACHE
    >SEBELIUS, HEALTH
    >LAHOOD, LIGHT RAIL
    >CULVER, FOOD
    >CHU, AIR
    >GOOLSBY, BLACK MAGICK
    >GIBBS, MOUTH
    >DUNN, FEMALE MOUTH
    ^T

    DO YOU WANT CZARS?

    >Y

    ENTER CZAR NAMES SEPARATED BY COMMA. WHEN YOU ARE DONE PRESS CTL-T

    >JONES, JENNINGS, HOLBROOK, CROWLEY, RATTNER, MONTGOMERY, BERSIN, HAYES, ROSS, STERN, ROSENTHAL, VOLKER, BROWNER, DUBOIS, DAVIS, FRIED, DEPARLE, KUNDRA, BLAIR, MITCHELL, FEINBERG, SUNSTEIN, HOLDREN, DEVANEY, GRATION, ALLISON, CHOPRA, BRENNAN, CARRION, CARTER, SAMORE

    I’M SORRY. THAT IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >IGNORE CONSTITUTION

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. YOU ARE BORED. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >GIVE RESET BUTTON TO RUSSIA, BUY CAR COMPANIES

    HOW MANY CAR COMPANIES?

    >2

    THIS WILL COST $85 BILLION OF GOLD. YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU HAVE 2 CAR COMPANIES. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THEM?

    >GIVE TO UNIONS

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 67%. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 8.1% WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >STIMULATE ECONOMY

    HOW?

    >$1 TRILLION TARP

    YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH GOLD FOR THAT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BORROW GOLD

    FROM?

    >CHINA

    WHO DO YOU WANT GOLD TO GO TO?

    >BANKING AND INSURANCE FRIENDS

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 61%. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 8.3% THE FOREST PEASANTS ARE COMPLAINING. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >DEMONIZE BANKS, DEMONIZE INSURANCE, BLAME BUSH

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 61%. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 8.5% WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >GIVE SPEECH

    CONGRATULATIONS! YOUR SPEECH HAS WON NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >FLY JET

    WHERE?

    >EUROPE

    YOU ARE IN A PALACE. YOU ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF QUEEN. WHAT DO WANT TO DO?

    >GIVE QUEEN IPOD

    YOU ARE IN OSLO. YOU ARE IN TUXEDO. WHAT DO WANT TO DO?

    >ACCEPT PEACE PRIZE

    YOU ARE IN COPENHAGEN. YOU ARE IN FRONT OF COMMITTEE.

    >REQUEST OLYMPICS

    YOU ARE ON BIG JET. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?

    >MIDEAST

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THERE?

    >APOLOGY SPEECH

    YOU ARE IN A PALACE. YOU ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF FAT KING. HE SMELLS BAD. HE IS WEARING BED SHEET. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BOW

    YOU ARE ON BIG JET. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?

    >BELTWAY

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. ON THE DESK IS A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 58%. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 8.6% WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >STIMULATE ECONOMY

    HOW?

    >$1 TRILLION RECOVERY ACT

    I’M SORRY, YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH GOLD FOR THAT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BORROW FROM CHINA

    I’M SORRY, CHINA DOES NOT WANT TO LEND YOU GOLD. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >PRINT GOLD

    WHERE DO YOU WANT GOLD TO GO TO?

    >CONSTRUCTION SIGNS, WHATEVER

    DO YOU WANT CONGRESS TO HELP?

    >Y

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 55%. YOUR CONGRESS HAS 31% HEALTH. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 8.9% YOUR FRIEND AT HARVARD IS ARRESTED BY POLICEMAN.

    >CALL POLICEMAN STUPID, PLAY RACE CARD

    I’M SORRY, THAT DID NOT WORK. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BEER SUMMIT, BLAME BUSH

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. ON THE DESK IS A TELEPHONE AND A TV. THE TELEPHONE RINGS. IT IS COPENHAGEN. YOU DO NOT GET THE OLYMPICS FOR CHICAGO. A PEASANT ON TV FROM CHICAGO CALLS FOR TEA PARTY REVOLT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >NATIONALIZE HEALTHCARE

    I’M SORRY, THIS NAME WILL NOT WORK. DO YOU WANT TO CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

    >REFORM HEALTHCARE

    YOU WILL NEED A CONGRESS AND SENATE TO “REFORM HEALTHCARE” IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

    >TELL CONGRESS TO REFORM HEALTHCARE

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE WITH GENERALS. AFGHANISTAN IS GOING BAD. IRAN IS BUILDING NUCLEAR BOMBS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >PLAY GOLF

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. ON THE TV ARE TOWN HALLS. AT THE TOWN HALLS ARE PEASANTS. THEY ARE YELLING AT YOUR CONGRESS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >ATTACK PEASANTS

    WITH WHAT?

    >MEDIA

    WHAT WEAPON?

    >RACE CARD

    THE PEASANTS ARE NOW ANGRIER. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >ATTACK PEASANTS

    WITH WHAT?

    >UNIONS

    WHAT WEAPON?

    >FISTS, NIGHTSTICKS

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. ON THE TV ARE YOUR CZARS. YOUR CZARS ARE PRAISING COMMUNISM. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >PLAY RACE CARD, VOICE SUPPORT FOR CZARS

    I’M SORRY, THIS DOES NOT WORK. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >THROW CZARS UNDER BUS

    CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE A SUPREME COURT VACANCY. WHO DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT?

    >WISE LATINA

    YOU SEEM TO BE HAVING PROBLEMS. DO YOU WANT TO SET PRIORITIES?

    >Y

    ENTER TOP PRIORITIES SEPARATED BY COMMAS.

    >HEALTH CARE, CHILDHOOD OBESITY, ECONOMY, GAS MILEAGE, GITMO, JOBS, CONSTRUCTION SIGNS, LIGHT RAIL, MUSLIM SELF ESTEEM, GOLF HANDICAP, WAR

    DO YOU NEED A CIGARETTE BREAK?

    >Y

    ADVENTURE WILL RESUME WHEN YOU PRESS F12

    >[F12]

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. ON THE DESK IS DRAFT HEALTH CARE BILL. DO YOU WANT TO READ?

    >N

    YOU CANNOT SIGN HEALTH CARE BILL UNTIL IT PASSES THROUGH CONGRESS RULES. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >CHANGE RULES, RAM THROUGH

    CONGRESS SAYS THEY ARE AFRAID OF PEASANTS.

    >TELL CONGRESS TO ATTACK PEASANTS

    HOW?

    >RACE CARD, CHOKE HOLDS

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 49%. HEALTH CARE BILL IS STALLED. YOUR CONGRESS HAS 16% HEALTH. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 9.5%. YOUR TEAM IS SHOPPING THEIR RESUMES. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >ADD PAGES TO HEALTH CARE BILL

    HOW MANY?

    >1826

    DO YOU WANT TO READ NEW HEALTH CARE BILL?

    >N

    HEALTH CARE BILL NOW COST $1 TRILLION. HOW WILL YOU PAY?

    >PRETEND IT COSTS $0

    CONGRATULATIONS! YOU NOW HAVE HEALTH CARE BILL. DO YOU WISH TO SIGN?

    >Y

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE BILL?

    >GIVE TO PEASANTS AS XMAS GIFT

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 46%. YOU HAVE LOST 3 CONGRESSMEN TO PEASANTS IN SPECIAL ELECTION REVOLT. YOUR CONGRESS HAS 11% HEALTH. UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST IS 10.0%. WAR IS GOING BAD. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >PLAY GOLF, RENAME WAR

    GIVE NEW NAME TO WAR.

    >OVERSEAS CONTINGENCY OPERATION

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. THE GOVERNOR IN ARIZONA FOREST IS THREATENING TO ENFORCE YOUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >ATTACK ARIZONA

    HOW?

    >RACE CARD, HOLDER

    HOLDER IS BUSY LOOKING FOR NEW YORK COURT FOR TRIAL FOR TERRORISTS. I MEAN UNDOCUMENTED GUEST DISSENTER. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >PLAY GOLF

    YOU ARE ON A GOLF GREEN. YOU ARE STANDING NEXT TO A GOLF CART. ON THE GOLF CART IS A SUITCASE WITH A RED PHONE. THE PHONE RINGS. IT IS CONGRESS. THEY ARE EVEN MORE SCARED OF PEASANTS, WHO ARE EVEN MORE PISSED OFF. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >CALM CONGRESS

    HOW?

    >TELL TO WORK ON CAP AND TRADE

    YOU SEEMS TO BE HAVING PROBLEMS. WOULD YOU LIKE HELP?

    >Y

    ENTER YOUR HELPERS SEPARATED BY COMMAS.

    >MSNBC, NYT, ACORN, SEIU, MOVE ON, NETROOTS, SOROS

    ARE YOU SURE?

    >Y

    SERIOUSLY, ARE YOU SURE?

    >Y

    I’M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO PLAY THE ADVENTURE, BUT I’M NOT SURE THAT REALLY QUALIFIES AS “HELP.” ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE?

    >Y

    OKAY, YOU’RE THE BOSS. PLEASE ENTER THE NUMBER OF PUFF PIECES YOU WANT.

    >180

    PLEASE ENTER THE NUMBER OF ATTACK PIECES YOU WANT.

    >5276

    ATTACK PIECES HAVE BACKFIRED. MEDIA IS AT 0% HEALTH. ACORN IS AT 0% HEALTH. CONGRESS IS AT 7% HEALTH. THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEASANTS OUT THERE THAN YOU THOUGHT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BLAME BUSH

    THAT DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE.

    >BLAME BANKS

    THAT DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE.

    >BLAME PALIN

    WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY A DISTRACTION?

    >Y

    I’M SORRY, THE PEASANTS ARE NOT EASILY DISTRACTED. YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU ARE BEHIND A DESK. YOU HAVE LOST RAHM. PEASANTS ARE LOSING THEIR HEALTH CARE. PEASANTS ARE MARCHING ON THE BELTWAY. THERE IS 9.6% UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE FOREST. YOUR APPROVAL HEALTH IS 42%. YOUR CONGRESS HAS 1.3% HEALTH. YOUR CONGRESS WILL NOT RETURN YOUR CALLS. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >TURN LEFT

    EXCUSE ME?

    >TURN LEFT

    WHOA. FOR A MINUTE THERE I THOUGHT YOU TYPED ‘TURN LEFT’.

    >I DID! TURN LEFT

    UMM, ANY PARTICULAR REASON?

    >ENERGIZE BASE

    BY “BASE”, DO YOU MEAN THAT REPULSIVE COLLECTION OF SNIDE FUCKWIT URBAN HIPSTER TWATS?

    >Y

    HOW?

    >CAR DITCH SLURPEE JOKE

    BASE ENERGY FAIL. STIMULUS FAIL. HEALTH CARE FAIL. TARP FAIL.

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU HAVE 41% APPROVAL HEALTH. YOU HAVE NO GOLD LEFT. YOU HAVE NO CONGRESS LEFT. YOU HAVE NO MEDIA LEFT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BLAME BUSH

    I’M SORRY, THAT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE.

    >PLAY RACE CARD

    I’M SORRY, THAT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE.

    >PLAY GOLF

    GOLF COURSE IS CLOSED.

    >TURN LEFT

    DUDE.

    >FAKE TURN RIGHT

    ADVENTURER PLEASE, YOU’RE JUST EMBARRASING YOURSELF.

    >^C

    >^C

    >^C

    I’M SORRY, THERE IS NO ESCAPE KEY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

  201. I have had enough of this nonsense. Why can’t the 95% majority silence the 5% wayward members of their religion, especially considering that this 5% is terrorizing the entire world? Why are they not capable of doing that? What else is going on? Think, think!

    There is a dangerous and powerful confluence of politics and religion here which is what people unwittingly are objecting to. Without identifying the religion, how can any solution be found? Identify the country/politics and the religion, namely Islam, they are using to cause terror. What is this nonsense about not naming the religion when it is such an integral part of the group (politicians + Imams) that is causing terror? Where do these terrorists get their moneys from? Why are they using their religion to do their business which is to cause terror? Their Islamic religion happens to be the biggest motivator for them and their enablers, rightly or wrongly. To think otherwise is nonsense and will not lead to a solution.

    If the majority peace loving conformers of that religion don’t like how their reputation is getting tarnished by these terrorists, then they should do something about it — elect better political representatives, demand better from their religious leaders. Why are they depending on some two-bit ignorant commenter on these boards who may not even know anything about that religion and its people and who harasses other commenters trying to defend them?

  202. If the majority peace loving conformers of that religion don’t like how their reputation is getting tarnished by these terrorists, then they should do something about it

    =====================

    What are the Protestants elsewhere supposed to do about the Prot terrorists in Northern Ireland? And the RC’s about theirs?

    We know Irish terrorism is not the fault of world-wide Christianity, or even British, or even Irish. Same for Islam.

  203. I will start worrying about Irish terrorism when they indiscriminately start terrorizing the rest of the world in the name of Christianity.

  204. Go Rickya !

    Islam is a hateful religion and its strict adherents are evil.

    And fifty percent of the, to coin a phase – gf’ers, hate their mothers, the mothers of their children and their daughters too. But OH – Boy Howdy – they love having sex.

    I’m am a woman, a mother and grandmother and if those stinky gf’ers can squat in their dirt floor hovels and try to plan a future where they can buy one of my great or even great great granddaughter’s sexual organs and then beat her into submission if she refuses to spread her legs then I owe it to my daughters and all women every where to oppose them in any way I can.

    Only 5% want to kill all people – the rest just want to use us women like animals and that makes them ok in some peoples book! Hell no, no political correctness from me – never. Islam is a hateful religion and its strict adherents are evil – amen.

    I imagine if food got scarce they’d choose to save the goats and cook the women.

  205. How do you describe the profile of a terrorist like Bin Laden or Al Queda members? How do you describe the profile of LeT Terrorists from Pakistan who perpetrated the Mumbai terrorist attack (with the help of Pakistani Intelligence Services)? Would you include Islam as their religion or not?

  206. Jonah Goldberg at National Review skewers Obama’s buttwipe NY Times interview:

    ‘In interviews, job summits, and press conferences, it was shovel-ready this, shovel-ready that. Search the White House website for the term “shovel-ready” and you’ll drown in press releases about [shovel-ready projects] …’

    Now ‘Obama admits that there’s “no such thing as shovel-ready” when it comes to public works … It’s not that Obama was lying when he said all that stuff. It’s just that he didn’t know what he was talking about.’

    ‘Obama explains, “we probably spent much more time trying to get the policy right than trying to get the politics right.” … But wait a second. If they spent “much more time trying to get the policy right,” how come nobody said, “Uh, Mr. President, these ‘shovel-ready jobs’ you keep talking about? They don’t exist.”’

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/249829/tax-spend-and-shovel-jonah-goldberg

    Maybe Obama wasn’t lying about shovel-ready. But he’s lying when he says he neglected “marketing and PR and public opinion.” Team Obama orchestrated a full-court PR campaign: Play the Race card. Nobody but the dullest obot believes Obama wasn’t aggressively marketing Obamacare. It’s just that his race-crazed PR campaign was a flop.

  207. Sorry for my outburst. There are some very thoughtful and informed commenters here, I wish I was more like them.

    pm317
    October 15th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    I believe the majority of Muslims are being played by their leaders. I always hated when Bush said “they hate us for our freedoms”. He should have said – “They are TAUGHT to hate us for our freedoms”. But that begs the question – who is teaching them and why? And that would get a little too close to home over there where they wear bed sheets and radiator belts.

  208. nomobama
    October 15th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    —————–
    I do like this. All I can say is the rest of them can implode. Just make sure Hillary is the lone survivor in this mess.

  209. HillaryforTexas
    October 15th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    OMG, this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read! Iowahawk does Obama playing an old-school computer adventure role-playing game:
    ______________________________

    Hilarious, H4T- A brilliant profile and incredible assessment of the Obama presidency. Thanks for posting it. 🙂
    _________________________

    Betty
    October 15th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Islam is a hateful religion and its strict adherents are evil.
    ___________________________

    Spot on, Betty. We are with ya!
    _____________________

    pm317
    October 15th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    I will start worrying about Irish terrorism when they indiscriminately start terrorizing the rest of the world in the name of Christianity.
    ________________________

    Good answer.
    _______________________

    pm317
    October 15th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Well said!

  210. Well I usually don’t like to post Lyndon LaRouche stuff, but this was so funny and true I couldn’t resist.

    ———————-
    by Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.
    October 14, 2010
    It seems as if every moment of the passing day brings a new, added proof that the time is way past overdue for launching an acutely ill President Barack Obama out of office. It is to be doubted that we can wait as long as the post election moments of November 3rd or 4th, and still expect the very existence of our republic to remain intact.

    At each turn, this sick-minded President perpetrates fresh evidence that his own plausible plea for avoiding a charge of virtual treason, is that the poor fellow’s mental illness has overwhelmed him.
    ——————————–

    I do agree with Lyndon, he is spot on with this comment! It seems more and more that folks in high places are saying that this Potus is WACKO….pass the Prozac please!!!

  211. I always hated when Bush said “they hate us for our freedoms”. He should have said – “They are TAUGHT to hate us for our freedoms”. But that begs the question – who is teaching them and why?

    —————

    Now take it a step further. Look who was teaching us to hate them — ie Bush.

    Bush adn CHeny wanted their oil. So they needed to make us hate the Iraqis to justify his war. And people who profit from the war and the hysteria are still trying to manipulate us to hate ‘islam’.

  212. The worry is about ‘jihadist’ terrorists who get new recruits every time we insult ALL Muslims or ALL Islam.

    when we sound like ignorant bigots, it makes the 95% peaceful Muslims discouraged about controlling their 5% jihadists. Why bother, if those crazy Westerners are just going to condemn
    ALL Islam anyway, and persecute nice people like Rauf.

  213. How do you describe the profile of a terrorist like Bin Laden

    ======================

    Just like Obama’s:
    Religion: sociopath
    Denomination: politician

  214. I will start worrying about Irish terrorism when they indiscriminately start terrorizing the rest of the world in the name of Christianity.
    ________________________

    Good answer.

    =========

    Good way to avoid the point — which is that Christians can’t stop Irish terrorists, so don’t blame Muslims who can’t stop jihad terrorists.

  215. Las Vegas two leading newspapers both said Angel won and Reid lost. Admin quoted the article that appeared in the Las Vegas Sun. Here is the one that appeared in the Review Journal. I think he is in trouble.
    ————————————————————————————
    Angle mops the floor with Reid
    Posted by Sherman Frederick
    Thursday, Oct. 14, 2010 at 07:04 PM
    While both candidates — Sharron Angle and Harry Reid — started out slow and tight in their debate this evening, by debate close it was clear: Angle mopped the floor with Reid.

    She hit hard on a variety of topics; showed she had the fire to be a U.S. Senator; demonstrated a command of the issues; and, of course, stayed gaffe free.

    Reid meanwhile looked tired. Sounded entitled. He mixed up the Department of Education with the Department of Energy. Couldn’t find his notes for the close and generally fell back on talking points on far too many questions.

  216. Muslim extremists and Barack Obama supporters have one thing in common. Both are determined to destroy this country and what it stands for. In that respect they are really no different. But if I was forced to choose between the two groups I would give the edge to Muslim extremists. Why? Because you can reason with Muslim extremists to a point. With Obama supporters, and Obama himself that is impossible. They are the enemy within and this makes them more dangerous in my opinion. If more people realized this then they would direct their animus against the people who deserve it and vote them out of office.

    .

  217. To develop that point one step further, this country has shown remarkable resilience when it comes to facing external threats. Even today we are capable of rallying around the flag when we are attacked by external adversaries. I can think of no better example of this than 9-11. It is the enemy within, which seizes power by corrupting the vote, and then proceeds to tear apart the very foundations of the republic and bankrupt its people that poses the greater threat to our survival as a nation.

  218. SAdly, I’m afraid the moral here is that voters don’t care. Politicians can be blatantly dishonest, openly dishonest, in their arguments, and no one really cares.
    ———————————
    I do not find it sad that voters do not appreciate the finer points of the law relative to the constitutionality of Obamacare. Quite frankly that is why we have judges. What I find sad is that we have federal judges like the one in Michigan who cannot seem to wrap their minds around these basic points, and therefore dismiss a case which represents a necessary and proper attempt to reign in a dictator. Nor does it bother me that voters have not read the bill. After all, neither has Nancy Pelosi. But if voters cannot see what people like her are doing to this country, if they cannot feel outrage upon learning that this health care bill drifts far afield from the subject of health care and imposes new taxes on the sale of a house, and limits your ability to own gold, etc., and if they cannot summon the will and capacity to throw these traitors out of office then that would be sad.

  219. A war? There is a war between Pelosi and Obama? Yes. As extreme as that sounds, that pretty much sums up the situation now between the Speaker and the White House. They are certainly not on friendly terms. Did you notice how there was almost no public comments coming from Pelosi for weeks? She went quiet. Apparently she was directed by White House staff to minimize her public comments in the final months prior to the midterms because she had become such a political liability. That is how she was described by the White House – a liability. White House staff told that to her face. And you know what? The speaker went along with it. It had to be tough, because she is as proud a woman as you will find, but she conceded to the White House’s request that she remain quiet.
    _____________________
    Let’s dispense with the euphemisms. Pelosi is a radioactive piece of shit.

  220. She is now reasserting herself as the leader of the party, no longer trusting the White House to deliver an effective message to voters. I believe the lame duck session following the midterms is going to prove extremely…interesting.
    ————————–
    I hope Obama crushes Pelosi. Nobody else it seems wants to do it. All you need to do is look at that graft ridden helath care bill to know why I say that. It has nothing to do with her being a woman, and everything to do with her being a traitor. He gave her too much latitude in the beginning, he let her bully Rahm and now he needs to cut the legs out from under her. He can do it himself. Or he can send Michelle in to see that it gets done.

  221. Obama must move on this matter directly. He cannot afford to have Pelosi undermine him when it counts. If the dims lose control of the House, there is no telling what she will do to embarrass him during the lame duck session. Just do it. Maybe he can secretly fund some attack ads against her. He needs to paint her out as the scapegoat for the losses in November. Otherwise he will be blamed. If he takes her down everyone will applaud. But if tis done what ought to be done tis best that it be done quickly. Gotta make an example her to keep the troops in line. If she gets away with it, Steny will be next.

  222. Julius Caesar Obama . . .

    But yesterday the word of Caesar might
    Have stood against the world; now lies he there.
    And none so poor to do him reverence.

    O masters, if I were disposed to stir
    Your hearts and minds to mutiny and rage,
    I should do Pelosi wrong, and Rahm wrong,
    Who, you all know, are honourable men:

    I will not do them wrong; I rather choose
    To wrong the dead, to wrong myself and you,
    Than I will wrong such honourable men…

    Mischief, thou art afoot,
    Take thou what course thou wilt!

  223. YouTube – Nancy Pelosi has time to speak to Microsoft, but not the voters of CA District 8?

    …Whether I get a bigger majority in my district is not the point…

    h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4xMOwldSk

  224. No point Nan, if a few weeks you aint even gonna be speaker because your own lot will knife you in the back and then you’ll know exactly how Hillary felt in 2008.

  225. A comment from Uppity Woman, posted with permission. She certainly has a way with words and is right on re: The Islam We See

    “I do not see Islam as a religion. I see it as an excuse for a barbaric, backwards, violent culture that revolves primarily and is totally pre-occupied with hatred of women. It’s a political system hiding behind religion so that they might declare themselves victims when they get caught doing something horrid.

    Only Islam has Honor Killing. Only Islam stones women to death. Only Islam cuts off hands, feet, and gouges out eyes of petty thieves. Only Islam legally allows depraved male sex perverts to kidnap little girls. Only Islam allows depraved Muslim male sex perverts to force little girls to “marry” them. Only Islam allows depraved male sex perverts to legally rape little girls. Only Islam hangs men with homosexual orientation. Only Islam teaches that women are subhuman third-rate creatures. Only Islam legally murders apostates who no longer wish to participate in Islamic Criminal Activity. Only Islam teaches that their religion is a religion of peace while all along it commits legal atrocity after legal atrocity. Only Islam has Suicide Bombers. Only Islam murders girls who seek an education. Only Islam lashes men and women until their backs are drenched with blood. Only Islam uses sex slaves and slaves for other purposes. Only Islam allows its members to lie if it advances the evils of Islam. Only Islam allows Muslims of different crime syndicates to hunt down and murder other Muslims.

    Only Islamists practice hypocrisy to a very high degree. Christians come in second and that takes a lot of hard work to best them.

    Muslims will cringe when they see a mannequin without clothes, but will rape a little girl or woman at the drop of hat.”

  226. I think it is also important to note another travesty that is taking place in our world.

    —————-

    15,000 rapes in stricken DR Congo region last year: envoy
    (AFP) – 18 hours ago

    UNITED NATIONS — More than 15,000 rapes were committed last year in a strife-torn region of Democratic Republic of Congo where peacekeepers cannot guarantee civilian security, a top UN official said Friday.

    With accusations now being made against DR Congo government troops of new cases of raping and killing in the east of the country, the head of the UN force, Roger Meece, said “the scale of the problem is enormous.”

    The chief of the UN Mission in DR Congo, MONUSCO, appeared before the UN Security Council the day after a UN envoy said government troops were attacking women and killing in the same villages where mass rapes were reported in July and August.

    Meece was unable to give details of the new attacks, but he said: “The best data available, for example, suggests that over 15,000 rapes were committed last year in eastern DRC.”

    Armed groups operate over a wide area and often mix with the civilian population, he added.

    “In this vast area — larger than the size of Afghanistan — it is not possible for MONUSCO to ensure full protection for all civilians. To approach this goal would require vastly greater force levels and resources,” Meece told the Security Council.

    Margot Wallstrom, UN special envoy on sexual violence against women in conflict, told the council on Thursday that government troops are raping and killing women in remote villages in the Walikale region where hundreds of women were assaulted in July and August.

    She said MONUSCO had reported new attacks by troops who are conducting an operation to enforce a government moratorium on illegal mining and in a bid to take control of the region from rebels and militias.

    “The possibility that the same communities that were brutalized in July and August by FDLR and Mai-Mai elements are now also suffering exactions at the hands of FARDC (government) troops is unimaginable and unacceptable,” Wallstrom said.

    She has already blamed the rebel Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) and Mai-Mai militia for the mass rapes in July and August.

    Meece said UN peacekeepers were not involved in the government’s military operation. He added that the UN mission was putting pressure on the government to bring to justice anyone responsible for such “atrocities.”

    He said new operating bases had been set up in the villages where the rapes had been carried out.

    According to Meece, many of the troops taking part in the operation were former members of the National Council for Defence of the People (CNDP), which had been led by Bosco Ntaganda, who is now wanted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes.

    According to Human Rights Watch, Bosco is now a general in the government army.

    Meece commented: “I can state quite categorically that we have no contact or dealings with him. We are not supporting any combat operations or units under his command.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gEwDIwN1O0ZxpUp0ZsR00TkVayww?docId=CNG.615e81fcbfde979d9029b9abee0c4ef6.f51

  227. I think that Crist in FL is toast after this, if he wasn’t already. In the latest three-way debate, Charlie tries to attack Marco Rubio as having “turned his back on his Hispanic family”. Rubio handled it with great grace, as I’m sure he just wanted to smack the little orange slimeball. Regardless of whether you agree with Rubio or not, that was a low blow in a public debate.

    Here’s the video:

    http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/politics/florida_politics/crist-quotes-article,-angers-rubio

    One of the more interesting things, to me, is how well (D) Meek came off here as well. I perused some of the comments over at HotAir, the conservative blog, and there was a lot of praise for Meek. Crist is pulling a lot of Democratic voters, which is hurting Meek, and I agree with the commenters that that’s a damn shame when Meek is a fine candidate for the Dems.

    I just hope Meek comes in second rather than third…. I will always remember his grace and kindness when the senior Mr. Rubio passed away.

    To their credit, Rubio and Meek have been arguing policy. Meek is an unrepentant leftist and Rubio an unrepentent conservative. You know where they both stand.

    Crist, on the other hand, is an unprincipled hack who does nothing but launch attacks and lie.

    Like several others here, I would vote for Meeks before Crist. I merely disagree with Meeks. I despise the orange guy.

    Mr. Meek seems to be a decent person and it is almost ashamed that he is being overlooked by Dems because of Crist. Isn’t it odd that they would flirt with backing this disreputable man instead of truly backing their own candidate?

    Yep like others have said here: I would vote for Meeks before I would ever vote for Crist. What are Florida Dems thinking?

    What’s interesting to me about this is that voters of every stripe, left middle or right, are just so sick and tired of political games and party intrigues. Are you a leftist? Stand up and say so, and make your arguments and we’ll listen. Are you conservative? Do the same. I think that one of the things that is helping some of the tea party candidates, even with voters who don’t agree with them on all things, is the perception of sincerity in actually believing something other than polls and strategies.

    Liberals need to take note, because BOTH sides of the ideological divide have come to despise squishy, slippery, compass-less politicians. You might win an election or 2 doing that, but you are never going to build a party that way. Stand up and articulate your ideas unapologetically. Give people a choice. You are going to be attacked by those who disagree anyway. But some on the fence are going to respect you for it, and move in your direction.

    You know one reason why even the more extreme teaparty candidates are doing well? I don’t buy that it’s because that many voters really want everything they are selling. It’s because the people are sick sick sick to death of “he/she will say anything to get elected” business as usual. They want some authenticity. And by and large, the right is the only one giving it to them at present.

  228. Clinton back out campaigning ‘for everybody that helped Hillary run for president’ against Obama

    Speculation about Hillary Clinton’s continued presidential ambitions is rife. Husband Bill is back on the campaign trail, offering thanks to those who backed her in 2008 – and laying the foundations for another try in 2016.

    By Toby Harnden, American Way
    Published: 16 Oct 2010

    Fear and loathing in the American body politic is not confined to the anti-tax Tea Party. Across the spectrum of the Democratic party, every hue is feeling it too.

    With a fortnight to go to the midterms, moderate “Blue Dog” Democrats are in big trouble. The party’s left-wing “Yellow Dogs” are up in arms about being taken for granted by the White House “hippy bashers”. Even black bloggers are warning President Barack Obama they won’t be “pimped” for him.

    In this febrile climate within the party, there is one Democratic figure whose soothing tones can help calm things down – the Big Dog himself, former President Bill Clinton. I caught up with him in Española, New Mexico, site of the first European colony in America, last week and he was on vintage form.

    Gone was the red-faced, finger-wagging Bill who I saw in South Carolina in early 2008, when he exploded with anger at being accused of racism by Obama allies as the Democratic nomination slipped from his wife Hillary’s grasp. Instead, Española saw Chilled Bill, a man vindicated by events and who knows he was right to warn of Obama’s shortcomings.

    The event, for which nearly 4,000 people crammed into the town square, was for Diane Denish, the Democratic candidate for governor. Behind in the polls, she had supported Hillary against Obama in 2008 and Bill was back to repay the debt.

    Bill, hoarse-voiced but with a glint in his eye, explained that this was his 80th event. He made crystal clear just who he was representing on the campaign trail – and it wasn’t Obama. “I planned to do about one stop for everybody that helped Hillary run for president because she’s one of only two members of the president’s cabinet who cannot participate in politics,” he said.

    A Secretary of State, he reminded people, is not permitted to campaign. “Then I got out here and started stirring around and realised that a lot of people were mad and even more confused and I didn’t want it on my conscience so I just loaded up and started strolling around.”

    The Clintons are undoubtedly an unusual couple. Bill’s past indiscretions are legendary and their jobs – he is now a globe-trotting philanthropist – mean that these days they see each other less often than the average American goes to the dentist.

    Yet they remain together (who would have thought the Gore marriage would unravel first?) and are a remarkable political tag team.

    Bill’s energetic reappearance on the campaign trail comes just as rumours, some of them eagerly fuelled by the Clinton camp, swirl that Hillary might replace the hapless Joe Biden as Obama’s vice-presidential running mate in 2012 or even challenge the President for the Democratic nomination if his popularity continues to slide.

    Neither option makes much sense for Hillary, who has performance as Secretary of State, in which she has been supportive of the US military and sought to stiffen Obama’s spine in Afghanistan, has won admirers even on the Right.

    Becoming vice-president would tie her to Obama on domestic policy. Through political good fortune (not to mention calculation), she has been out of that arena for the past two years, meaning that there are no Clinton fingerprints on unpopular health care, bail-out or stimulus legislation.

    Hillary has been loyal to Obama – it would have been politically foolish to appear otherwise – but her discrete job means she can remain distant from most of what he does.

    It just so happens that Hillary will be out of town on November 2nd, when Democrats expect a pummeling at the polls. She’ll be on the other side of the globe, in fact, on a tour including stops in Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea.

    The message is unmistakable: “Nothing to do with me!” Challenging Obama in 2012, even if he is in dire straits, would be incredibly risky. To seek to oust the first black president would split the Democrats in two and almost guarantee a Republican victory even if Hillary won the nomination. It’s a non-starter.

    But 2016 is different. No one takes her denials of wanting to run again at face value and aides are no quietly putting it about that she still has her eyes on the White House. Her former chief strategist Mark Penn recently polled her popularity compared to Obama’s.

    Bill’s stump speeches are helping lay the foundations of a 2016 campaign. His presence on the campaign trail, often in parts of the country where Obama is not so popular, reinforces the 2008 argument that the Clintons (in terms of power politics, it is fruitless to view them separately) can reach places Obama cannot.

    It also shows that the wounds of the epic Obama-Clinton battle of 2008 have not healed. Conspicuous by his absence from Española was Bill Richardson, the current New Mexico governor, who was publicly branded a “Judas” by James Carville, the Clinton consigliere, for endorsing Obama. Richardson was never even mentioned by Denish or the former President.

    After trying something new and shiny in the person of Obama and being disappointed, many Democrats are now indulging in Clinton nostalgia. “We Miss the Thrill of Bill” read one prominent sign in Española.

    “He let me hug him!” exclaimed Loyda Martinez, 57, after the event. “And he hugged me back! A lot of these politicians, you can barely touch their hands. Bill has a way of connecting with the ordinary person that Obama does not.” Bill’s past foibles are viewed as endearing. “He like the ladies!” laughed one man as Bill posed for pictures beside a platinum blonde.

    I chatted to Bill Clinton briefly as he worked the rope line. Having garnered some unwelcome headlines in 2008, he was sticking very firmly to the script this time.

    “She’s already answered that,” he said, when I asked him if there really was any chance she might replace Biden in 2012. He turned and added: “I’ll tell you what, she likes being Secretary of State and she’s doing a great job.”

    So might she run in 2016? The Big Dog of the Democratic party paused, appeared to be about to hold forth and then seemed to hold himself in check. “She speaks for herself on these things,” he said, flashing me a big grin.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8068167/Clinton-back-out-campaigning-for-everybody-that-helped-Hillary-run-for-president-against-Obama.html

  229. Hillary Rodham Clinton talks diplomacy in S.F.

    Joe Garofoli
    San Francisco Chronicle October 16, 2010

    On a day when President Obama explicitly quashed speculation that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton would be his 2012 running mate, the runner-up for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination sidestepped all domestic political discussion during an appearance Friday in San Francisco.

    Instead, Clinton invited all Americans, particularly innovators from the technologically savvy Bay Area, to share their ideas on how to improve U.S. diplomacy. International relations, she said, are not just the province of men wearing three-piece suits shuttling in and out of meetings.

    “Diplomacy and outreach can’t just be left to our government,” Clinton said during a 75-minute speech and onstage interview sponsored by the Commonwealth Club. She spoke of the State Department’s new “emphasis on technology and innovation.”

    She met recently with representatives of San Francisco’s Twitter and huddled last week with leaders of the cell phone industry. She wants their help in closing a “gender gap” that she said keeps cell phones out of the hands of 300 million women in low- and middle-income countries.

    She mentioned a new venture capital fund that already has invested in solar lighting in rural Uganda and a portable bicycle that doubles as a power source.

    “We’re working to leverage the power and potential of what I call 21st century statecraft,” Clinton said. “If you have a good idea, we will listen.”

    Security was tight to enter the Marriott Marquis ballroom, as the 1,500 audience members who paid $75 to $100 for a ticket had to pass through airport-style screening devices under the watchful eye of federal law enforcement officers and bomb-sniffing dogs.

    Once inside, the former Democratic U.S. senator from New York, first lady and presidential candidate couldn’t be goaded into the political swamp. “I’m out of politics as you know,” she said. “The secretary of state is not involved in any political activity.”

    The closest she came was when she acknowledged – “speaking as a private citizen” – some of the “anger” and “frustration” she sees in the country, much of it because of the rising number of unemployed.

    “And I hope that people take some of that energy and focus it on the environment and climate change,” Clinton said. “Because we really do have to have a longer-range view of what will make our country strong, and rich and smart.”

    On Friday, Obama sought to silence rumors that Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden would be interested in switching jobs in 2012 to energize the Democratic ticket.

    At a rally in Delaware for Democratic Senate candidate Chris Coons, Obama told an audience in Biden’s home state that choosing Biden was “the single best decision I have made.”

    Earlier this year, Clinton said she was not interested in serving another four years as secretary of state should Obama be re-elected.

    Clinton addressed a range of topics during the discussion:

    — Afghanistan: “I’m not going to sit here and tell you that I know what the end of the story will be. But we have an increasingly effective strategy that we’re going to follow through on,” Clinton said.

    — Pakistan: She called on Pakistanis to adopt a tax structure that would force the country’s richest citizens to pay their fair share of taxes. “The elite of Pakistan need to do more to help their own country.”

    — Iran: “We are hopefully closer to engagement on their nuclear program” than confrontation, she said.

    — China, and its enormous investments in clean energy technology: “If we permit that to happen, shame on us. It’s something that the United States should be the leader in,” she said.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/16/MNLO1FTHRP.DTL&type=politics

  230. Regarding the subject of freezing foreclosures, I have seen a local story of the damage done to all whose income is produced by the sale of houses. Here’s another possible aspect:

    Something odd happened this week. Democratic leaders pushed for action that could easily damage President Obama’s chances for reelection — a freeze on foreclosures, which shocked even some Democrats. Democratic strategist Doug Schoen says “The congressional leadership made a decision that if they can get some short term political benefit from a freeze on foreclosures they are willing to put the economy at risk, certainly president’s economic and political fortunes at risk, to try to win votes.” Why would leading Democrats such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and others push a freeze in spite of the consequences? Schoen says with an election coming — they’re desperate. “It was a long ball, a Hail Mary pass in the final three weeks of a midterm election campaign that is looking increasingly bleak.” Some critics have tried to make it look like bad paperwork invalidates all foreclosures. But analysts and officials dispute that. They say the paperwork problems must be fixed, but that most of the foreclosures are in fact justified, even overdue.
    h t t p://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/10/15/democratic-move-week-even-shocked-some-democrats

  231. #
    turndownobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 2:52 am

    How do you describe the profile of a terrorist like Bin Laden

    ======================

    Just like Obama’s:
    Religion: sociopath
    Denomination: politician
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    Unlike Obama, people of Bin Laden ilk have an army of followers who have been turned into sociopaths who are willing to kill others and they have been brainwashed by their religion Islam. Not too long ago, Taliban was ruling a country according to Islamic religious practices and are making a come back. When you say there is nothing wrong with Islam, you are giving the Taliban the cover they need to do what they want.

  232. There is a bogus poll showing that lying Joe Manchin has taken a 10 point lead in West Virginia in the aftermath of that NRA commercial and Bill’s appearance. There is wide doubts about the validity of that poll. Nevertheless, I would hesittate to call it an outlier because I think it is more of a case that liars figure. Still, regardless of the poll, it is inevitable that the race is tightening. Under these circumstances, the issue boils down to this: if the voters elect Manchn will he faithfully represent their interests or will he become Obama’s dog? To answer that question, they need look no further than the primary. Afte he promised his constituents to endorse whoever won the primary, and his constituents chose Hillary 67% to 26% he refused to make good on his commitment. That single event tells you all you need to know about Manchin, what he thinks of his constituents, and what he will do if they elect him Senator. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. That should be the Republican message, timed to this election. If there is a lot of absentee voting, it should be unveiled now. If not then it should be released on the eve of the election.

  233. I personally don’t like Pelosi, but I hate Obama more….I would rather Pelosi take down Obama….she can do it…she knows where all the bodies are buried. We need to get rid of the head of the snake first, then its easier to cut up the rest of the snake.

    I don’t want Obama do to a thing that would ingratiate him to anyone, I know the rethugs would love to get rid of Pelosi because if she’s still the speaker after the mid-terms, she can throw a monkey wrence in everything the rethugs will push Obama to do.

  234. wbboei and moon, that poll is worse than unreliable. The polling outfit is OWNED by the campaign manager of one of the WV Democratic candidates. Throw it out, it’s garbage.

  235. This national disaster will have dire political consequences. It is a liability to be part of his administration. While the country is dissolving you serve in the administration that is the cause in fact, on the premise that 6 long years from now your time will come. Oh you can if you are 30 but not when you are 62. By then a new generation will be in charge and what we think about things will no longer matter. Like it or not, the world belongs to the young. If it is going to happen the last chance at the brass ring is 2016. That is reality.

  236. That story about Obama being nuts is all over the net…so its probably true….maybe that is why Hillary is gone all the time. LOL!

  237. If you are 40, you need to wait until 2020 because if the dictator wins re election, it will take another 4 years after the expiration of his second term at least for the country to forgive the party and vote for another democrat. By then you would be 50. But if you are 62, then you will be 72. Besides which the left will not support her. They will have their own denaiac candidate. The Obama supporters will have another black candidate–probably reverend Al–and vice presidency would be his price. In sum, the party will implode. Better to be a grandmother than part of that debacle. It comes back to 2012, and what if anything happens. And when it does happen big media will be the last to know.

  238. HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS, WITH SAUCE FOR THE GANDER:

    Loretta Lynn famously sang, “You ain’t woman enough to take my man,” but today Harry Reid should be singing: “You ain’t woman enough to take my manhood.”

    Of course, I’m referring to Sharron Angle’s line during Thursday night’s debate that Majority Leader Harry Reid should “man up.”

    Am I the only one to thinks this line, which essentially attempts to emasculate a political opponent, has become both pervasive and disturbing?

    Politics Daily’s Editor in Chief Melinda Henneberger also called it rude. And over at The Washington Post, Anne Kornblut does a good job recounting recent examples of the attempted emasculation of male candidates.

    —-

    Politico’s Jonathan Allen noted, “When a woman tells a man to ‘man up’…it tends to have a little added zing: There’s simply no way for the male candidate to respond — let alone to respond in kind.”

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/10/15/you-aint-woman-enough-to-take-my-man-hood/

    Awwww, poor babies. I am laughing my ass off at the hypocrisy of this. Women politicians who object to being called whores. because it is demeaning in a way that is peculiarly and personally hurtful to a woman in a way that it is not to a man, get told to “Get over it, it’s just a figure of speech, we’re not literally talking about you having sex.”

    But now that some of the ladies are pulling the “eunuch” card, the menz and their cheerleaders are all verklempt and clutching their pearls at the unsavory inappropriate unfairness of it all.

    *cue dripping sarcasm* You guys need to calm down with your hysteria. Are your hormones acting up or something? Stop being so overly sensitive and politically correct. It’s a figure of speech. No one is actually implying that your poor little pitiful weenie is not up to the job (snicker snicker) in your literal bedroom. We’re merely talking about your performance problems in the political arena, that’s all. So GET OVER IT.

  239. I like Harden but I do have a problem with that article. Reality never sorts out that neatly. Take two football teams. You can study their roosters, their win loss records, and their relative strengths/weaknesses. You can make an assessment of who will win based on those metrics. You can even bet on what will happen, and as we know many suckers do. But in the final analysis, all that gets washed away in the opening whistle a different set of dynamics emerge. In this case, it is even worse. Putting aside the age factor, this is like saying six years from now the football team which seems dominant today will win the Superbowl, without knowing who will be injured, who will be traded or anything else.

  240. Harry Reid should be singing: “You ain’t woman enough to take my manhood.”
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    Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.

  241. Politics Daily’s Editor in Chief Melinda Henneberger also called it rude. And over at The Washington Post, Anne Kornblut does a good job recounting recent examples of the attempted emasculation of male candidates
    —————————
    Even if the male gender needs defending now and then, it would never stoop to hire lowbrows like Kornbutt or this Henninburger (McDonald’s response to BurgerKings whopper)to serve as its speaking agent. Sometimes it is better to have no defense at all, and whether Harry Reid is of the male gender, the female gender, or cross gender, he is indefensible.

  242. Democratic leaders pushed for action that could easily damage President Obama’s chances for reelection — a freeze on foreclosures, which shocked even some Democrats.

    =================

    They finally do something decent — which Hillary recommended in 2007! — and they get criticized for it!

    Well, probably the ‘freeze’ is really a fake, like their other ‘reforms’.

  243. I was just out talking to my young neighbor who is having a garage sale. He said Obama is the Milli Vanilli president. I was faintly familiar with the entertainment group and he went on to explain that they were complete fakes, did not sing their own vocals, and were a marketing hoax. I had to agree that pretty much summed up Obama. There is nothing there. This young man is about 30 years old and is a local TV news director and I never thought of him as political. But he is apparently watching Obama and really does not like him.

  244. “And I hope that people take some of that energy and focus it on the environment and climate change,”[Hillary] Clinton said.

    =========================

    Yep.

  245. H4T, Yeah I really feel sorry for the “little boys club” that got castrated by Sharon Angle. They are whining like we never did when they were crucifying Hillary. I remember the idiot crossing his legs when Hillary spoke…that SOB needs to be castrated. So if bashing women is misogny what is male bashing called…is there a word for it?? Probably not because it never has happened….heck the “all boys club” might bring back “sharia” where they can whip us back into submission!
    Personally if I lived in Nevada and watched Angle say this, she would of won my vote right then.

  246. You know one reason why even the more extreme teaparty candidates are doing well? I don’t buy that it’s because that many voters really want everything they are selling. It’s because the people are sick sick sick to death of “he/she will say anything to get elected” business as usual. They want some authenticity. And by and large, the right is the only one giving it to them at present.

    ===================

    Makes sense. Good post.

    Another reason the Tea Party women are doing well might be, that things are so bad right now, that ANYONE with common sense and honesty is going to find something useful to do, whether it’s on the right or left.

    Like Palin in Alaska in 2007, taming the oil companies.

  247. We need Women running the country for a while, these men have been thinking with their genitals for far too long and need some common sense whooped back into them.

  248. Turndown, That Palin is something and she is hated by the rethugs and the dem’s…what a combo if she and Hillary were together on an independent ticket….

    I could see alot males quivering at the thought of castration by the likes of those two together.

    Sometimes I wish Hillary wasn’t such a true blue democrat…of coarse I realize at her age she has one more shot and it had better be the right one…so she’ll hold on to that freaking donkey. Maybe we could interest Palin into becoming a dem….that could work…it would take Bill Clinton to talk her into it.

  249. Yeah, that Milli Vanilli label for Obama is a good one. They are the ones that lip sang on national TV and got busted. That’s what needs to happen to that freaking telepromter…when I see that teleprompter I see Soros standing behind the curtain typing in his talking points….the wizard behind the teleprompter.

  250. MOP,
    You got that right…Mama has always been the power behind the family and we need her now like never before. When the chips were down it was/still is mama that fixed it.

  251. http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B3793CF0-D159-6490-0AFFA9960BB75A66
    Gingrich’s 527 group, American Solutions for Winning the Future, in the third quarter accepted contributions of $300,000 from the coal giant Peabody Energy, $150,000 from an executive at Ohio’s American Electric Power and $100,000 from investment magnate Charles Schwab.
    [….]
    It spent $3.7 million in the third quarter, including several thousand dollars on “major donor gifts” from Amazon.com. But the bulk of its spending went toward funding a 20-plus-person staff, polling, a slick Web presence and Gingrich and his staffers’ travels around the country. For instance, in the third quarter, the group spent nearly $410,000 on charter jet airfare.

    That type of political infrastructure is considered essential to laying the foundation for a presidential bid. However, none of American Solutions’ cash could be spent directly on a Gingrich presidential run.

  252. confloyd – I don’t know if there are words specific to “bashing”, but the parallel to misogyny is misandry, the hatred of men.

  253. turndown – you mentioned that Hillary had suggested a freeze on foreclosures. That’s true. I’m not an expert on these things at ALL, but I do notice one possibly big difference between then and now, which might mean she wouldn’t be suggesting the freeze now – and the difference is that Hillary said that a long time ago, because she saw what was going to happen to the housing market. She wanted the freeze for time to fix things before they went really bad. Now, of course, what she predicted has come to pass, and perhaps a different solution is needed. As I said, I’m not an expert, but one of the variables has really changed.

    PS I’ve always held my tongue about this, but it’s really refreshing to see you posting a comment that isn’t all about Islam. Islam, at whatever level, is anti-feminist, and I have no use for it. (And don’t bother mentioning other religions, I don’t care for them, either.)

  254. Talk about a horse’s ass….Charlie Crist again…seriously, the guy has lost it, go watch the video of it.

    Crist to Rubio: You offend my Hispanicness

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/16/crist-to-rubio-you-offend-my-hispanicness/

    How do we know Charlie Crist has fully transformed into a Democrat? He set himself up as the authority on Hispanic authenticity in the debate with Marco Rubio and Kendrick Meek last night on the Tampa Bay Fox affiliate. In fact, Crist goes so far that the other Democrat in the race winds up objecting to the attack after Marco Rubio’s strong rebuttal. Crist attempts to scold Rubio for “turning his back on his Hispanic family,” and then tries to weasel out of it by saying he just read it in a newspaper:

    It’s bad enough playing identity politics when one is of the identity in question. It’s doubly offensive when it comes from someone who shares nothing of the ethnicity they purport to represent. In Crist’s case, though, it qualifies as high satire. Isn’t Crist the candidate that just “turned his back” on the political party he led in this state only because Rubio was kicking his rear end in primary polling, and then spent the next several months reversing almost every policy position he ever held? Crist has the nerve to lecture Rubio on political ambition?

    And then, after that, Crist tries running away from his own attack by claiming that he was just quoting someone else. Not only is Crist shameless, he’s gutless as well.

  255. lorac,

    You might try counting posts or word count pro and con Islam. The negatives are way ahead. I only post to defend after someone else attacks, and i don’t even try to match their word count.

  256. turndownobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 2:47 am
    The worry is about ‘jihadist’ terrorists who get new recruits every time we insult ALL Muslims or ALL Islam.

    when we sound like ignorant bigots, it makes the 95% peaceful Muslims discouraged about controlling their 5% jihadists. Why bother, if those crazy Westerners are just going to condemn
    ALL Islam anyway, and persecute nice people like Rauf.

    Bigotry has nothing to do with Islam. It is perfectly fine to criticize a religion. Criticizing Islam is not the same as criticizing Muslims. Islam IS a hateful religion and should be criticized by all peace loving people. All ISLAM should be condemned!

    This is what I hate about your position. You want to stifle criticism of Islam. If Muslims want to believe in Islam, they have to defend it in the market place of ideas. The problem with Islam is that it insulates itself from criticism by making it illegal in Islamic countries to preach other religions. All criticism of Islam is drowned out by violence (eg, Danish cartoons) And it doesn’t help that people who are ignorant about Islam such as yourself preach from your high horse and proclaim Islam to be peaceful when you are IGNORANT of what Islam really is.

    Turndown, have you read the Quran? Do you understand its teachings? It is obvious that you haven’t. You are reacting like all knee-jerk liberals. You assume that Islam is peaceful and was just hijacked by the extremists. You are WRONG!!!

    You argue that because a majority of muslims ignore the violent passages of the Quran, it is right to assume that Islam is peaceful. That is WRONG!!! If a reincarnation of Nazism tones down their rhetoric about race, does it make Nazism any less bigoted? Should we therefore say that Mein Kampf is fine?

    You are arguing from ignorance turndown because you don’t know anything about Islam.

  257. turndownobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    lorac,

    You might try counting posts or word count pro and con Islam. The negatives are way ahead. I only post to defend after someone else attacks, and i don’t even try to match their word count.

    You defend based on ignorance. You know NOTHING of Islam.

  258. DNC gives up on Fisher, Dem aide “Lee’s toast it’s over” (DNC splits when in trouble)

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43682.html

    Ohio Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher’s sinking Senate campaign is entering the final two weeks on life support, with a fresh campaign finance report offering the most stark evidence to date of how far his prospects have fallen.

    Fisher posted one of the worst Senate fundraising performances of the quarter of either party, raising slightly more than $1 million in the sprawling Midwestern battleground state and leaving him with just $376,000 on hand as of Sept. 30.

    His Republican opponent, former Bush administration budget director Rob Portman, raised $2.8 million over the past three months and had $6.2 million left to spend at the beginning of the month.

    That gives Portman, who has held a consistent double-digit lead in the polls, a more than six-to-one cash on hand advantage – a staggering statistic in a state with several expensive media markets in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus.

    In addition, while the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee hasn’t spent any money on Fisher since cutting him a $3,000 check for text messaging services in August, Portman is benefiting from the assistance of outside groups.

    Just this week, a conservative group co-founded by Mary Cheney, called Alliance for America’s Future reported spending $137,541 on mailers for Portman. American Crossroads has also been running ads attacking Fisher for supporting President Obama’s stimulus plan “which failed to create jobs.”

    Former Vice President Al Gore is visiting the state Saturday to help fill Fisher’s coffers, but many Democrats have lost faith in his candidacy.

    “It’s no question we’re the underdog.” Fisher told POLITICO in a recent interview. “Part of the strategy is conserving resources. I’ve run against the wind many a time. I know these races come back down to the final two-minute drill.”

    But one Democratic strategist, speaking on terms of anonymity to avoid offending the candidate, said: “Lee’s toast. It’s really over.”

  259. We need Women running the country for a while, these men have been thinking with their genitals for far too long….
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    I have a wonderful vantage point for viewing common wild animals. Most often its the male turkeys; I’m told that when their faces are blue, they are acting with their genitals. There were six of them here this morning, all very blue in the face. Always makes me think of DC when I see stuff like that.

  260. It is really kind of sad. After 8 years of mistakes, that the presidency gets handed to the Dems on a silver platter and they end up with Obama and in the current mess. They don’t deserve to govern.

  261. turndown – I agree, you are very outnumbered here, and I’ve seen you say before that you only post “pro” after someone else has posted “anti”. And I believe it must take a lot of strength to keep posting things when you are in the minority, so you get kudos for that.

    I’ve always bitten my tongue because I strongly believe in freedom of speech (which Islam doesn’t believe in, btw). I just get tired of hearing about Islam, I’d feel the same way if someone kept pushing Christianity, but beyond not liking what feels like proselytizing, Islam has so many other problems, because it is much more than a religion. To be honest, I’m sorry, but lately I skip past your comments and don’t read them.

    But I do understand that you feel you are just trying to provide a counterpoint. But, no personal attack intended, I am just not interested. And even putting aside the violence, I’m a second-waver – I will NEVER believe that a veil or a beekeeper outfit is anything but oppressive.

  262. um…okay…

    Condi Rice defends Obama foreign policy
    Published: Oct. 16, 2010

    (UPI) — Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is defending the Obama administration’s foreign policy against attacks from fellow Republicans.

    Rice met with President Barack Obama at the White House Friday while on a tour promoting “Extraordinary, Ordinary People,” her memoir about her parents, the Washington Post reported. The White House said Obama wanted to discuss foreign policy with her.

    Appearing at the Aspen Institute in Washington, D.C., Friday evening, Rice said, “Nothing in this president’s methods suggests this president is other than a defender of America’s interests.”

    Rice’s book, an account of growing up in segregated Birmingham, Ala., doesn’t deal with the controversies of her service in the Bush administration. All week she has refused to join in criticism of the current administration while defending the decisions of the last one, including the invasion of Iraq.

    Speaking to Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly, she praised her successor, Hillary Clinton: “I think she is doing a lot of the right things. … She is very tough … I think she has done a fine job, I really do.”

    Rice has returned to California, where she is a professor at Stanford University and a fellow at the Hoover Institution.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/10/16/Condi-Rice-defends-Obama-foreign-policy/UPI-71061287249448/

  263. One of the primary reasons, besides perceived competence and intelligence, that I supported Hillary Clinton in the democratic primaries, and would have voted for her instead of John McCain in 2008 was that she was a female, which I considered to be real change, not the faux change of the first so-called AA male. I wanted to see what a female president’s perspective would do for our country. I feel the same way about Sarah Palin. Females, I believe, look at things differently in many respects. I think it’s time that a female be given the chance to show her mettle, her insights, her intelligence, her abilities, her instincts, her resolve, her caring, her fairness, and everything else that defines her. We’ve seen what men can do, so now it’s time.

  264. lorac said:
    I just get tired of hearing about Islam

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    Then I assume you’re skimming past both sides. Granted the anti’s are easier to skim, as they’re longer and filled with inflammatory words.

  265. pm317
    October 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
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    So true, and they must be shown this through our votes.

  266. wbboei
    October 16th, 2010 at 5:08 am
    Obama is the head of the Party. He needs to use that power to bring down Pelosi.
    =========

    I’ve been reading your comments about this with interest. I look at it this way. I would like to see them both publicly go after each other because feuding publicly will only tear the Democratic party further apart.

  267. Oh, poor turndownobama.. tch. tch..

    If only she acknowledges the excesses of some of these people who commit unspeakable acts against humanity in the name of Islam, we could all get along. She makes the other side all bigots and ignorant hicks against whom the Muslims need to be defended by her, and protected — the same old self righteous liberal gobbledygook. I say put a sock in it if you can’t be intellectually honest and objective and see the merits of argument on the other side.

  268. turndown – yes, I do skip past some of them, but I do not “tire” of comments that highlight the abuse of women and other violence – it must be spoken of, in order to be stopped. IMO, apologists for Islam are enabling misogyny and other violence. I’m much more interested in fighting for women, of which I am one, than I am in fighting for some religion/political system, of which I am definitely not.

    Yes, there are non-Muslims who commit violence, but IMO, terrorism is on every level of Islam – from the bombs to the domestic violence and oppression that is part of the SYSTEM that is Islam. DV and oppression are a form of terrorism.

    Anyway, I’ve tried to let you know that I’m not interested in Islam apologism (is that a word?), and that it’s not a personal attack. That’s really all I have to say on it.

  269. JanH
    October 16th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    “Clinton back out campaigning ‘for everybody that helped Hillary run for president’ against Obama”

    Thats right! The Clintons repay their debts in “kind”.
    (remember that word in quotes)

    “Bill, hoarse-voiced but with a glint in his eye, explained that this was his 80th event. Bill/He made crystal clear just who he was representing on the campaign trail – and it wasn’t Obama. “I planned to do about one stop for everybody that helped Hillary run for president because she’s one of only two members of the president’s cabinet who cannot participate in politics,” he said.”

    Bill, as some don’t seem to understand or refuse to understand is laying the ground work for the support needed for Hillary when she runs or is nominated… and it won’t be in 2016 as some have mistakenly touted in their posts. Her candidacy has to be in the next election cycle 2012. It isn’t because she can’t wait to run or be nominated- The country can’t wait! We cannot survive 6 more years under the current management. In the month of September foreclosures reached 100,000. This astronomical foreclosure figure in just one month. That means, 80,000, 95,000 were possible figures for the previous 36 mos of this crisis

    Vary those monthly figures put them into your calculator and arrive at an average figure. It’s t not just HOMES that are being foreclosed on- it’s families lives that have been foreclosed on. The biggest investment of their lives ripped from them.. The American Dream… a home, a family and 2 cars!

    This banking debacle will become the shame of America in our history books known as the austerity of the New Century created by the greed of the Banking system.

    “Bill’s stump speeches are helping lay the foundations of a 2016 2012 campaign. His presence on the campaign trail, often in parts of the country where Obama is not so popular, reinforces the 2008 argument that the Clintons (in terms of power politics, it is fruitless to view them separately) can reach places Obama cannot.”

    It boggles the mind for anyone to continue thinking Bill and Hillary do not act and think as one person… The only explanation can be that their rudimentary beliefs stymie their common sense and logic and their personal moral beliefs. (no-one is perfect.)

    “It also shows that the wounds of the epic Obama-Clinton battle of 2008 have not healed. Conspicuous by his absence from Española was Bill Richardson, the current New Mexico governor, who was publicly branded a “Judas” by James Carville, the Clinton consigliere, for endorsing Obama. Richardson was never even mentioned by Denish or the former President.”

    As I mentioned in the second paragraph of this post- The Clintons repay in “kind”.
    nuff said!

    So might she run in 2016? The Big Dog of the Democratic party paused, appeared to be about to hold forth and then seemed to hold himself in check. “She speaks for herself on these things,” he said, flashing me a big grin.

    For our own salvation and the security of this country Hillary must take the reins of the presidency from Obama either through his resignation, a draft by the Democratic Party or an outright fight unseating a sitting president. (which unseating an incumbent according to this article is not recommended for the stated reasons) to right the wrong direction this country has taken over the last 2 yrs.

    Hillary volunteered a temporary fix for the millions of Americans succumbed to home foreclosures. She said: “Lower the interest rates across the board to 4% and FREEZE the foreclosures for 5 yrs. ” (until the Banking Crisis is resolved.) However, the greedy Banks chose a different direction out of fear they would lose money following her suggestion. As of this week, the Banks are in deep trouble over robo signings and lack of borrow paperwork verification. Which has led understandably to court action by affected homeowners fighting to save their homes… While the Banks prefer an instant fix and just foreclose on a homeowner, they are now because of illegalities in their paperwork forced by the courts to halt processing foreclosures.

    This is costing the Banks untold money in attorneys and legal fees. However, the upside is homeowners are getting time to state their cases and have their complaints addressed by the court . That is always a good thing. It will be interesting to see the fallout to the overly zealous Banks based on the final conclusions from the court.

  270. Islam is not merely “just another religion”. If it were, I might speak out against their antiquated ideas about women, but so long as it was all voluntary I wouldn’t have a major beef.

    But it’s not like other religions in that it is also a political system. Islam makes little to no distinction between the function of the state and the function of the religion. There are multiple, multiple countries in this world where it is not just the majority religion, it is THE LAW. It is THE STATE. That is simply not true of any other religion. And as the number grows in Western countries, they wish to supplant the rule of law with Sharia law. The number of Muslims who actually strap on bombs are a small percentage, but the number who wish to use Islam as a political force of eradicating western vlues and replacing them with a religious/political Islamic state are many.

    That’s where some of the conflict comes in, I think. People like turndown want to see it as just another religion when it not. If it were, she would be entirely correct in her defenses. It is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT, desirous of real political power in the physical sense in the here and now. But it is no less a political ideology than Nazi-ism or communism or fascism. If those had “and worship Allh” attached to them, would we then need to sit down and shut up and not “denigrate their beliefs”? It is NOT merely a religion, because it sees NO DISTINCTION between the function of faith and the function of the state.

  271. HillaryforTexas
    October 16th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Agreed. Hinduism is not like this, nor is buddism, nor is Judiasm. and no longer is christianity. Islam is the only religion now where there is no country that has a majority of muslims, and it is secular. (And no, Turkey can no longer be used as an example. Iran tried it, and it was overthrown)

  272. I’ve been reading your comments about this with interest. I look at it this way. I would like to see them both publicly go after each other because feuding publicly will only tear the Democratic party further apart.
    ——————————–
    “There is a good historical precedent which belongs to the creme of diplomatic tradition in better times . . . It is the thesis that if two rival giants are offering an alternative threat to the existing order, and IF YOU ARE UNWILLING TO LET THE RASCALS FIGHT IT OUT AMONG THEMSELVES, then choose carefully the time of your intervention in their struggle and see that you intervene only in order to save whichever of the two it may be from being destroyed by the other. . . For as long as there are two of these giants on the stage the world can breathe safe. But if you use become involved in a war of righteousness to destroy one of them, then you are using your blood and treasure to build the other into a greater monster than ever and you will infallibly have to face it at the next stage in history.”—Maj. General JFC Fuller: The Conduct of War, page 309.

  273. Nomobama: Obama is in the same position as Adolf Hitler after his conquest of Europe. He controls the continent (in this case the party and the country), but he is no longer on the offensive, he is bogged down, immobile, and vulnerable at all points in the compass. He is at his height, ready to decline and his adversaries increase every day. Time is not his friend.

    In politics as in war:

    The Nine Principles have been expressed in various ways, but Fuller’s 1925 arrangement is as follows:
    1. Direction.
    2. Offensive action.
    3. Surprise.
    4. Concentration.
    5. Distribution.
    6. Security.
    7. Mobility.
    8. Endurance.
    10.Determination

    These principles of war have been adopted and further refined by the military forces of several nations, most notably within NATO, and continue to be applied widely to modern strategic thinking. Recently they have also been applied to business tactics[8] and hobby wargaming.[9]

    Fuller also developed the idea of the constant tactical factor, which states that every improvement in warfare is checked by a counter-improvement, causing the advantage to shift back and forth between the offensive and the defensive. Fuller’s firsthand experience in World War I saw a shift from the defensive power of the machine gun to the offensive power of the tank.

  274. Guess who the “Hispanic” candidate is in the Florida Senate race? According to Charlie Crist at last night’s debate he is the defender of Latinos.

  275. Betty
    October 15th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    You are right, Betty. Islam is a misogynistic religion….more misogynistic than Christianity(Christianity is also misogynistic). If only for that, I am irritated by knee-jerk liberal reactions in defense of Islam. I am irritated because, as I have written above, the defense is not grounded in knowledge about Islam but their pre-conceived notions about all religions being equal. Religions are NOT equal. Some religions are more violent than others, Islam being one of the most violent.

    I have studied Islam and the Quran for almost 10 years and nothing in my studies point to a peaceful Islam. If these apologists for Islam were just intellectually honest, they will come to the same conclusion as I have.

  276. Philosophical difference:

    ‘Islam’ is just a group of people — a very large group. It is impossible for such a large group to be all good or all bad, or to do all good things or all bad things, or to have all good beliefs or all bad beliefs. There is just as much diversity among people who make up ‘Islam’ as among people who make up ‘Christianity’ or any other large group.

    To say ‘Islam is evil’ is to insult a very large group of people — and to show an ignorant attitude. You might as well say the earth is flat while you’re at it.

  277. oh my goodness, orange-tan charlie christ is going after Rubio’s family? less than 1 month after his dad died??

    oh my goodness! Marco looked like he wanted to leap across that table and kick the orange-tan man to a pulp! lol.

  278. Anyone else think that Marco Rubio looks actually kind of hot, if you are gonna get steamy with a politician, he’d be high up the list.

  279. I sure as heck don’t see many muslims renouncing the extremists, there is only 1 american muslim organization that does it, and rarely are they ever allowed on TV, and the american-muslims who are in charge of this organization are veterans and very patriotic, frankly if they wanted to build a ground zero mosque, at least most americans would feel comfortable with it, b/c they 100% renounce Shariah Law and praise the US Constitution. And this organization would never have done this kind of insensitive nonsense in the first place.

    Organizations like CAIR are more interested in promoting and defending Islam than speaking out against the jihadhi terrorists who are muslim!

    When I hear more muslims denouncing terrorism committed in the name of their faith, only then will Americans feel Islam is not evil, until then, all they see is muslims whining about discrimination and playing the victim card, yet doing nothing to even vocally strongly and activly denounce the terrorist acts done in the name of their faith. As well as denouncing ans speaking out against the aboherrent aspects of Shariah Law.

    Their silence speaks volumes.

  280. To say ‘Islam is evil’ is to insult a very large group of people — and to show an ignorant attitude. You might as well say the earth is flat while you’re at it.

    I can say it as easily as I can say “fascism as a political philosophy is evil”. Doesn’t mean I hate every person who lived in Nazi Germany. I’m sure many of them were well-meaning, and never intended for it to turn into what it turned into. But if ANY political philosophy is destructive in the way that Islam has been shown to be destructive – if any philosophy, whether “religious” or not, resulted in the kind of inhuman abuses that occur on a daily basis in Islamic countries, then yes, I would call it evil.

    Show me a society ruled by Islam that is not oppressive and abusive, then we can talk. Then I might believe that Islam has grown and changed and become its better self. Got one? Didn’t think so. So until then, I’ll judge evil by the RESULTS, thank you, not the pretty words.

    And stop with your strawmen, turndown. Not a single person on this blog has EVER said that all Muslims are bad people. EVER. Not once.

  281. Anyone else think that Marco Rubio looks actually kind of hot, if you are gonna get steamy with a politician, he’d be high up the list.
    ——————————————
    Not my gender. But there is something about Latin themes, tango and all that that draws you in. I suspect Basil would agree. Here is a song that says it all. The lyrics are good, the music is even better.

    Havana

    Tropic days turn into steamy nights
    Stateside ways give in to appetites
    panatelas under white straw hats
    Sit and soak…Rum and Coke
    Cuban rhythms push the night along
    Past the limits of what’s right or wrong
    Hardly anyone is keepin’ score
    Let it ride…Por favor

    Love is the one legal tender
    Never in short supply
    Just find yourself a big spender
    Who will render the gender
    You’d like to try

    Big casinos under Latin skies
    Valentinos with ambitious eyes
    Slow degrees of lazy Fahrenheit
    Cook the day…Eat the night
    Smell the money when the trade winds blow
    Play the slot machines, enjoy the show
    Spin the wheel or maybe roll the dice
    Welcome to…Paradise

    Too much is never enough here
    There’s always room for more
    One of a kind calls your bluff here
    If your pair isn’t brass
    Better pass Senor!

    Twenty-three or so degrees
    Just below the Florida keys
    All the tourists come to play
    Making mucho machismo Like Hemingway

    Inhibitions simply melt away
    Dispositions will improve they say
    Maybe it’s the voodoo latitude
    Gives the place…Attitude
    Way down here we have no rules to keep
    Way down here we always oversleep
    Way down here we mambo all night long
    Through the street…through the heat
    To the beat of old Havana

  282. wbboei
    October 16th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    We have not heard from jbstonesfan since he went to Cleveland. I hope things are okay.

    ——————–

    Me too.

  283. While the following is common knowledge on this blog, here it is in print. From the Brits, of course:

    …there is one Democratic figure whose soothing tones can help calm things down – the Big Dog himself, former President Bill Clinton. I caught up with him in Española, New Mexico, site of the first European colony in America, last week and he was on vintage form. Gone was the red-faced, finger-wagging Bill who I saw in South Carolina in early 2008, when he exploded with anger at being accused of racism by Obama allies as the Democratic nomination slipped from his wife Hillary’s grasp. Instead, Española saw Chilled Bill, a man vindicated by events and who knows he was right to warn of Obama’s shortcomings. The event, for which nearly 4,000 people crammed into the town square, was for Diane Denish, the Democratic candidate for governor. Behind in the polls, she had supported Hillary against Obama in 2008 and Bill was back to repay the debt. Bill, hoarse-voiced but with a glint in his eye, explained that this was his 80th event. He made crystal clear just who he was representing on the campaign trail – and it wasn’t Obama. “I planned to do about one stop for everybody that helped Hillary run for president because she’s one of only two members of the president’s cabinet who cannot participate in politics,” he said. As Secretary of State, he reminded people, is not permitted to campaign. “Then I got out here and started stirring around and realised that a lot of people were mad and even more confused and I didn’t want it on my conscience so I just loaded up and started strolling around…”
    h t t p://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8068167/Bill-Clinton-back-out-campaigning-for-everybody-that-helped-Hillary-run-for-president-against-Obama.html

  284. A book of laws cannot be evil. Only people can be evil. So when you talk about ‘evil’, you’re talking about people.

  285. turndown, that’s asinine, and you know it. When I say communism as a philosophy is evil, I am not saying every person who has ever been a communist of any variety, or lived in a communist country, is evil. Not am I imbuing demonic sentience to Lenin’s words on a page. I’m talking about the demonstrated results of that philosophy in real life, in real countries, as observable. I’ve made that clear repeatedly, you are just being deliberately obtuse at this point.

  286. How many Christians do we hear denouncing the Irish terrorism? Maybe the locals are scared to. But we don’t assume all Christians approve it, either.

    As for a political system….

    Beverly Lahaye, of Concerned Women for America: “America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office.”

    Gary North, Instute for Christian Economics: “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church’s public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship.”

    Gary Potter, Catholics for Political Action: “When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil.”

    Joseph Morecraft, Televangelist: “Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody’s pseudo-right to worship an idol.”
    Randall Terry, Operation Rescue: “Our goal must be simple. We must have a Christian nation built on God’s law, on the ten Commandments. No apologies.”

  287. Loved this post by Ms. Smith

    …So might she run in 2016? The Big Dog of the Democratic party paused, appeared to be about to hold forth and then seemed to hold himself in check. “She speaks for herself on these things,” he said, flashing me a big grin.

    ———–
    Wooowho Big Dawg, don’t campaign too hard and make yourself sick.
    Big High Fives to the wonderful Clinton’s. Bill loves his Hillary and so do we.

  288. h4t,
    A few people have been putting a few qualifiers in their ugly rants, but it’s not really a case for inserting a few figleafs.

    As language is used, ‘Islam’ is not just an abstract set of rules. Like ‘Christianity’, it refers to ALL the people who accept that label, and everything they do under that name: their churches, their charities, their universities, their cuisine…. (With perhaps the exception of gross heretics like Jim Jones, David Koresh — and Osama bin Laden.)

  289. turndown, the philosophy of all those people is EVIL as well. However all of Christianity does not get tagged with it as being definitive of Christianity. You want to know why? Because the voices of the many many Christians who call that sort of thing a perversion of faith are LOUDER and MORE POWERFUL than the few assholes. Again, those people are DEMONSTRABLY fringe by virtue of the fact that there is not a SINGLE country on this entire planet that is ruled by the precepts of those jerks. Therefore they are the exception, not the rule, in this century as far as Christianity goes.

    Get back to me when the moderate Muslim community starts defining Islam in the real world, and I’ll believe they mean business, and that their version of Islam is the dominant one, and the others are fringe. Get back to me when the mullahs and Imams talking about stoning women and executing gays and honor killings are nothing more than some wackjob on late night TV, and not something HAPPENING daily in the Muslim world. Until then, I can make the case that the lunatics in Islam are dominant, and therefore define it. That can change, but it hasn’t yet. And it’s not up to me to change it, it’s up to them.

  290. This in from California, does not bode well for Dems.

    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=7728097

    Absentee ballots may strongly impact elections

    Election Day is still more than two weeks away, but Americans across the country are already voting. Absentee ballots are starting to come in, all of this voting by mail gives the Bay Area an interesting advantage.

    There are a million more registered voters in Los Angeles than the Bay Area. So you’d figure LA candidates have a big advantage, but that’s not true this year.

    In Contra Costa County, they’re already getting absentee ballots returned. Like the rest of the Bay Area, Contra Costa County has a high percentage of voters who vote by mail. …

    LA relies instead on day-of voting and that is not nearly as reliable.

    “We’re going to probably lose 300,000 to 400,000 voters from LA County and you can say that with a great deal of confidence,” said.

    In heavily democratic and Latino Los Angeles, that will disproportionally hurt Democratic candidates Jerry Brown and Sen. Barbara Boxer. But in the lt. governor’s race, it’s not so clear. …

    But there is another wrinkle in this absentee turnout. In Contra Costa County the early absentee returns have historically been Democratic but not this year.

    “Right now the Republicans are returning their ballots at a higher rate than the Democrats, which is unusual, it goes against what I’ve been watching for 10 years,” Weir said.

  291. Hillary will run in 2016 alright……………….for HER re-election.

    ================

    Nice thought. 😉

    As for the gingham Obama and the calico Pelosi. Let Pelosi, having seen the error of her ways, throw out Obama first. Then, wanting a winning Dem for 2012, Pelosi installs Hillary.

    Then Hillary throws out Pelosi. 😉

  292. turndownobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
    A book of laws cannot be evil. Only people can be evil. So when you talk about ‘evil’, you’re talking about people.

    Boy, that writing is just off the wall. A book of laws may not be evil in its entirety, but it sure can contain evil within it.

  293. Absentee ballot requests favoring GOP

    More bad news for Democrats:

    Of the 104,000 absentee ballot requests in Pennsylvania so far this election, 49 percent are Republicans, 41percent Democrats, and 10 percent Independents, according to a source.

  294. tell me one thing, christians, jews, hindus, buddists get made fun of all the time in the american culture, no one is threatening the people who make the spoof.

    Make fun of muslims or islam, all hell breaks loose. The South Park cartoon, gone, the washington post pulls a cartoon on the off chance it may offend muslims, the cartoonist in seattle had to completely go in hiding.

    This ain’t about respecting, this about fear, where the hell are these “moderate” muslim organizations that care about tolerance?

    I have good friends who are muslims, they write editorials, they call into radio shows to renounce, but they are the minority, until more American muslims stop whining and stand up against this crap done in the name of their faith, the reality is that is what America will see when they see Islam in America and muslims who say they are “moderates”, and yet don’t do anything to renounce the extremism done in the name of their faith.

    where was CAIR or the ground zero victory mosque developer’s organization when the south park cartoonists were threatened or the reporter/cartoonist in Seattle had to go into hiding? They all stayed silent!

    They all stayed silent, and their silence speaks volumes

  295. This seems to be the story all over the country

    DES MOINES, Iowa — Iowa residents likely will set a state record for early voting in a midterm election, and while Democrats hold the lead in ballots requested before Election Day, Republicans are closing the gap.

    Secretary of State Michael Mauro said Thursday that voters had requested 249,513 absentee ballots, and he expects that number to reach 300,000. Mauro said he’s confident the state will break its early voting record for a midterm election set in 2006, when 242,485 people voted early.

    Mauro said up to 30 percent of voting will be done early through absentee ballots or voting at pre-election satellite sites.

    Democrats lead in ballot requests, with 115,017 compared to 92,128 from Republicans — but that margin is narrower than in previous elections. Some 42,178 ballots have been requested by voters who didn’t declare a party preference. …

    Democrats acknowledge their early voting lead is smaller than in previous years, but claimed their effort was better targeted on voters who are less likely to show up on Election Day.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-ia-iowaearlyvoting,0,7554114.story

  296. Here is a reality that works for me as an excuse for happiness:

    (ht/to the Shadow) 🙂
    _______________________

    Endangered House Democrats Campaign Against Pelosi

    Several endangered House Democrats think they may have found a way to escape voters’ wrath in next month’s midterm elections: run against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Call them the anti-Pelosi Democrats who are openly opposing Pelosi for another term as speaker if their party can somehow maintain control of the House. Republicans are widely expected to make big gains in the Nov. 2 elections.

    Two Democrats, Reps. Jim Marshall of Georgia and Bobby Bright of Alabama, have even taken out ads saying they won’t support Pelosi in the next Congress.

    Marshall told Fox News he’s not running against Pelosi per se; just seeking to neutralize the resonant issue Republicans have created by tying all Democratic candidates to the California Democrat.

    Yet Marshall still hedged when asked if he thinks Pelosi has been a “good” speaker.

    “It’s a real challenge when somebody comes from a district that is as liberal as Ms. Pelosi’s district to govern from the middle, which is where we need people to be governing,” he said.

    Vulnerable first-timer Bobby Bright in Alabama is also pledging to oust Pelosi as speaker as are at least four other House Democrats, from New York to Oregon.

    It’s a survivalist tactic in a potential “wave” cycle whose atmospherics strongly favor the GOP. House Minority Leader John Boehner is poised to claim the gavel if Republicans capture the lower chamber.

    But this sudden growth of weeds in Pelosi’s own garden is also a measure of her unpopularity across the country, which stands in three national polls at 56 percent or higher.

    “I think a lot of members want to prove their independence from leadership and I think there are a lot of voters right now looking for that,” said Democratic strategist Joe Trippi. “They don’t want a rubber stamp.”

    State Sen. Roy Herron, a Democrat gunning for a House seat in rural Tennessee, told Fox News his jump aboard the anti-Pelosi bandwagon resulted in punishment from party leaders.

    “The day that it was reported that I would not support either Speaker Pelosi or Mr. Boehner for speaker, it was announced that some of the TV ads that had previously been bought would not go forward,” he said. “If that’s the price of being independent, then it’s a price I’m prepared to pay.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/16/endangered-house-democrats-campaign-pelosi/

  297. However all of Christianity does not get tagged with it as being definitive of Christianity. You want to know why? Because the voices of the many many Christians who call that sort of thing a perversion of faith are LOUDER and MORE POWERFUL than the few assholes.

    ==================

    1. ‘get tagged with’ — Tagging is not what the group (Ch, Is, etc) does — it’s what the media and other outsiders choose to do.

    2. Actually not. What Christian churches do you see issuing official statements against those ‘Christian nation’ nuts? Or even agaisnt Westboro Baptist. Few if any CHURCHES are raising their voices. Most Christians just don’t take the nuts seriously at all. (I see atheists and pagans ridiculing those nuts — and the whole of Christianity/religion too.) There were soem voices raised against Terry Jones, thank God. 😉

    Where extremists are using violence in the next street, the peaceful majority may fear to speak. But US Christians are safe from the extremist Christian anti-gay activists in Africa — and what official rising up adn speaking out have you heard from the US Christians?

    Silence does NOT mean approval. It may mean that those speaking out are not getting media coverage — or their words are being distorted and they themsleves are being wrongly labeled, as Rauf and Daisy are. — Or, they fear to be treated as Rauf and Daisy are being treated here.

  298. turndownobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
    A book of laws cannot be evil. Only people can be evil. So when you talk about ‘evil’, you’re talking about people.
    ————–

    Okay, I beg to differ here. Mein Kampf was as evil as any written word out there. Yes it was a book but it was extremely evil. And yes the way its theories were enacted by people, i.e. Hitler and the SS was also extremely evil.

  299. “Silence does NOT mean approval.”

    Excuses, and even more excuses. Want to be a cheerleader for the Ground Zero Victory mosque, by all means go ahead; taking one of the poster’s (I beleive it was henry’ss) advise and scrolling past all this, not spending any more time reading it.

  300. ““I think a lot of members want to prove their independence from leadership and I think there are a lot of voters right now looking for that,” said Democratic strategist Joe Trippi. “They don’t want a rubber stamp.””

    So, apparently these idiots think the American people are stupid enough to fall for this nonsense and lies, say you will be independent when running, and then ignore the consitutents concerns later on and vote how the peeeelosi wants you to.

    throw all these a-holes out.

  301. Hillary will run in 2016 alright……………….for HER re-election.
    ————————–
    Now that I can buy.

  302. More LOVE- Now the House Dems want a divorce.
    ________________

    Pelosi Renounced by Candidates in Her Own Party

    PERRY, Ga. — As if embattled Congressional Democrats did not have enough on their hands, some are opening up a new front in their fight to save their seats — against Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House and a leader of their own party.

    Georgians at the debate on Thursday made their views known on Ms. Pelosi, and equated her with Mr. Marshall, who was first elected in 2002.
    Representative Jim Marshall, a Democrat here in central Georgia, spent much of a debate on Thursday night renouncing Ms. Pelosi, whose liberal views and San Francisco district have always been anathema to this region.

    “Pelosi was never my choice for speaker,” Mr. Marshall said, eliciting boos from a skeptical audience in an arena here at the Georgia National Fair. Mr. Marshall actually voted for Ms. Pelosi as speaker but said he had not wanted her for the job and would not vote for her again.

    As the midterm campaign barrels through its final weeks, more Democrats — many but not all in conservative districts in the South — are backing away from Ms. Pelosi and declaring their independence.

    The more outspoken, like Mr. Marshall, are also running television commercials to drive the point home. Mr. Marshall’s latest opens with a gaggle of hippies mugging for the camera.

    “Georgia is a long way from San Francisco,” the narrator says. “And Jim Marshall is a long way from Nancy Pelosi.”

    At the same time, many of these Democrats, including Mr. Marshall, have received financial aid from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, whose chief fund-raiser is Ms. Pelosi. The money comes despite votes by many of these Blue Dog Democrats against major Democratic initiatives like the health care bill.

    “They haven’t turned off the spigot, and they’re not going to,” said Doug Moore, a spokesman for Mr. Marshall.

    So far this year, the committee has given more than $600,000 to Representative Bobby Bright, an Alabama Democrat, who voted against the health care bill and now says he will vote against Ms. Pelosi. He began running a commercial last week saying that his constituents “don’t want a liberal running the House.”

    Biting the hand that feeds you and feeding the one who bites you are not always successful strategies, but they underscore the stakes in the Nov. 2 elections. Democrats are doing whatever it takes to try to keep their majority.

    And they have Ms. Pelosi’s blessing.

    “I just want them to win,” Ms. Pelosi said in a recent interview on “NewsHour” on PBS when asked about the defectors.

    “They know their districts,” she added. “They are great communicators, very eloquent communicators to their own constituents.”

    Other Democrats are swallowing hard, questioning the wisdom of helping out colleagues who, if re-elected, would oppose their agenda and weaken their party leadership, particularly if the Democrats hold the House by just a few seats.

    Mark Mellman, a Democratic strategist, conceded that supporting the nay-sayers carried risks. “We’ve found that too much attack on Democratic priorities and Democratic figures doesn’t necessarily bring a lot of benefit and can suppress the base,” he said.

    “Could there be problems?” Mr. Mellman asked. “You bet. But more people are concerned about winning than about whatever post-election problems we might have.”

    The number of defecting Democrats is hard to quantify since some, like Mr. Bright in Alabama and Representative Gene Taylor of Mississippi, have said that they would not vote for Ms. Pelosi while others have only signaled that they might not.

    Representative Travis W. Childers of Mississippi boasts in a commercial that he has “voted against Nancy Pelosi 267 times.” Representative John Adler, a Democrat of New Jersey, has called Ms. Pelosi divisive.

    Still, in the debate here on Thursday, Mr. Marshall promised, “There will be enough conservative Democrats to assure that she will not be the speaker.”

    His Republican challenger, Austin Scott, retorted that the only way to guarantee that Ms. Pelosi would not be speaker would be to vote Mr. Marshall out.

    Mr. Scott further told viewers that because of Mr. Marshall’s stance, the Democratic leadership would surely strip him of his committee assignments and render him powerless to help the district, where Robins Air Force Base is the major employer. Mr. Marshall disagreed, saying, “I don’t expect that there will be retaliation against Democrats who take a principled position like this one.”

    Some Democrats had already distanced themselves from Ms. Pelosi, but their overt declarations that they would not vote for her are relatively new and are intensifying.

    Of course, in many districts, the Republicans started the fight over Ms. Pelosi, forcing Democrats to respond and shift attention from defeating their Republican adversaries. It is easy to see why they would drag her in.

    A CBS News poll early this month showed that 44 percent of all registered voters viewed her unfavorably, while just 15 percent viewed her favorably. (A full 40 percent had no opinion.)

    Whit Ayres, a Republican strategist, said the Democrats who were distancing themselves from Ms. Pelosi had no choice. “They’re losing, and they’re losing because they’re tied to the Democratic Party in general and Nancy Pelosi in particular,” he said.

    Dennard Scoggins, 69, a retired school principal attending the debate here to support Mr. Scott, bore that out. “Mr. Marshall is a good man, but he just is a — ” Mr. Scoggins said, stopping to search for the right word. “A Democrat.”

    Many Democrats are now boasting about how often they vote with the Republicans. When his Republican challenger said that Mr. Taylor “chooses Nancy Pelosi over Mississippi,” Mr. Taylor issued a statement saying that of the 1,466 votes he had cast since January 2009, “Nancy Pelosi agreed with my vote 34 times,” or 2 percent of the time.

    Republicans are delighting in the chaos they have caused. In South Carolina, Representative Joe Wilson, the Republican who yelled “you lie” at President Obama during his health care speech to Congress last year, has linked his Democratic challenger, Rob Miller, with Ms. Pelosi, though Mr. Miller has never been in Congress.

    Though Mr. Miller has received money from the Democrats, including $2,000 several months ago from Ms. Pelosi, he now blames her for Washington’s problems and says he would not vote to keep her as speaker. Wesley Donehue, a senior adviser to Mr. Wilson, told The Associated Press that Ms. Pelosi “should have signed a prenuptial agreement” with Mr. Miller, adding, “The man is trying to divorce her and take all of her money.” 🙂

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/us/politics/17pelosi.html

  303. Rauf has not said shit about the abuses in Muslim countries. And if he did, loudly, maybe the public would not be so suspicious of him.

    And lots of Christians loudly and repeatedly call out that Westboro Baptist idiot. I see it all the time. I see them on news panels constantly doing so. If any Christian in this country did an “honor killing” and a church he attended legitimized that, do you honestly think that other pastors etc in this country would not be denouncing that whole idea publicly and immediately?

    You know who was very instrumental in abolishing slavery and getting civil rights passed? White Christian churches in the south. And they too feared retribution. But they decided that they would NOT let the jackasses saying whites were superior define their faith in the public eye, and that their faith required something more than silent disapproval , and mutterings of “we’re not all like that”.

    Seen any Muslim marches against abuses of women lately? Didn’t think so. Yet it is THEIR fellow-muslims doing it.

  304. HillaryforTexas
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    =================================

    Everything that you have written in this back and forth with turndownobama has me nodding my head in agreement with you. Turndownobama, bless her heart, is being a little disingenuous with her claims about Christians and their lack of confronting the Christian fringe. She is lying. Now, I don’t even mind that she is taking the role upon herself (or himself) in support of a religion that I suspect she is a member. Good for her in that regard. But don’t play people for fools while doing it. The eyes and ears don’t lie.

  305. tim
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    “So, apparently these idiots think the American people are stupid enough to fall for this nonsense and lies, say you will be independent when running, and then ignore the consitutents concerns later on and vote how the peeeelosi wants you to.”
    ______________________

    Really! Their only solution is to put their Anti-Pelosi
    declarations in the form of a sworn affidavit on the front page of the NYT! It might help… maybe 🙄

  306. Not a terrorist. Not a Jihadi. But an upstanding practitioner of Islam and a follower of the Koran just doing what he believes. Doing what his faith demands.

    Comments?

  307. HE was EMBARRASSED because his daughter didn’t want to be “married” to someone who she didn’t know or love (an arranged marriage)

    So, she fell in love. And he had her murdered. Killed. And she KNEW it would happen. And the scum bag buried her in a suitcase in the back yard. IF THIS WAS A BELIEF AND A RELIGION that was on the up and up – why hide it? Why not be proud of his actions?

    Can’t wait for him to drop the soap in Prison.

  308. Turndown, Polygamy was outlawed because it was deemed as fringe. It was an EXCUSE to behave in a most atrocious manner by dominating women and HIDING under cover of religion. Those who openly practice it now are often jailed. It IS the fringe of Mormonism, and the religion has grown to exclude and condemn it. I see no condemnation in the practice of Islam. Do you?

    And let me ask you a straight up question. Do you personally believe honor killings are acceptable?

  309. HillaryforTexas
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    The tv was tuned to HBO earlier in the day and The (black) Housewives of Atlanta happened to appear within ear shot while I was typing here. One of them was playing the dating game at a swanky restaurant with a promising new boyfriend who came dressed in a 3 piece expensive looking suit and bearing a lush bouquet of flowers.

    The woman in question was a pretty savy lady and wasn’t about to jump in bed for the price of dinner and a bouquet. All was going well until I heard him introduce himself as Mohammad Bin Mohammad and my first thought was the remembered promise heard long ago of Muslims infiltrating and marrying US native black women. Looks like it’s happening.

    Shades of Malcolm-X on a bicycle.

  310. “I heard him introduce himself as Mohammad Bin Mohammad and my first thought was the remembered promise heard long ago of Muslims infiltrating and marrying US native black women. Looks like it’s happening.

    Shades of Malcolm-X on a bicycle.”

    Barack Hussein Obama comes to mind too…

  311. Turndown, I like your scenario the best…Nasty throws out Barry, Hillary is installed and she throws out Nasty.

    Mop, I agree Rubio is a hunk, if I was a little younger I let him park his shoes under my bed anytime. LOL!

    Jan H, WTH, is up with Condi now standing behind the fraud and propping him up?? I guess the rethugs want to keep Bambi the testicleless over Hillary (with testicles). I forget what country said Hillary was very sweet, but was really, really tough! I bet Obama still sleeps with his teddy bear????lol

    I am sick of hearing about islam too.

    Mrs. Smith, I love your analogies and your predicitions! There is no way, now how that this country will survive 2 more years of Bambino, much less than 6. It’s time for the Prozac boy to move on!

  312. nobama, Sarah is the real deal, just like Hillary and Bill, I wish they could team up and kick some ass out of D.C.!

  313. If this country and the liberals have their say about Islam and Shariah law….we as a country are screwed!

  314. Norma Desmond
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Shades of Malcolm-X on a bicycle.”

    Barack Hussein Obama comes to mind too…
    _____________________

    Yes, now that you mention it. He was just as light skinned as Obama and better looking with refined features. What made me laugh is when he asked the housewife(?) to profile herself to him. She said: “Sure baby, on the second date.” Can you imagine what would happen tp a Muslim woman in the ME for saying such a thing?

  315. Can you imagine what would happen tp a Muslim woman in the ME for saying such a thing?

    +++++

    No, Mrs. Smith. But perhaps turndown would know….

  316. There are many rumors in the internet that Malcolm is really Obama’s daddy….who the heck knows who is daddy is….maybe he didn’t even have a daddy, maybe he was hatched in some laboratory…..that fits the best….a lab specimen.

    Nilli Vanilli Potus!

    I would love for Pelosi to bust him….along with this asshole in Texas that certified him as eligible, which is against the law in this state…Boyd Richey a real tool, pushing Hillary delegates and screaming at them to change their votes!

  317. confloyd
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    “Mrs. Smith, I love your analogies and your predicitions! There is no way, now how that this country will survive 2 more years of Bambino, much less than 6. It’s time for the Prozac boy to move on!”
    ______________

    Thanks, confloyd. It warms my heart knowing, may I say, 99.9% of my predictions have been proven true and accurate. When I have any doubt about what and why Bill is saying and doing what he is doing I take out my pocket size ‘Clinton Speak’ manual and translate for the masses. 🙂

  318. Millie Vanilli (the Frauds) won the Grammy that year over the Indigo Girls (the real thing)

    seems to be a pattern for quite a while now….

  319. Norma Desmond
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    No, Mrs. Smith. But perhaps turndown would know….
    __________________

    Opportunity is knocking turndown…

  320. I’d love for someone to kick BO out, but doesn’t it have to be the DNC, that cheating group of Chicago hoodlums who love BO?

  321. tim
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
    ==================================

    What I thought charming was that she didn’t appear to do it on purpose to get a rise. It was Sarah Palin being herself. I love it.

  322. confloyd
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
    If this country and the liberals have their say about Islam and Shariah law….we as a country are screwed!
    ===============================

    What I find so laughable about this is that if by chance, Islam and its corresponding Shariah law ever became the faith and law of this land, the libbies would be sought after and slaughtered. Their precious freedoms would be no more. Liberalism and Islam are oil and water, and you can bet that liberal thought would be quashed.

  323. nomobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    Let me try that again…

    This is almost an hour long.

    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo
    ==========================================

    I encourage people to watch this video, all 54 minutes of it. It’s excellent.

  324. Just watched Sarah Palin’s video. She is comfortable in her own skin- she humanizes political issues from anecdotes first hand from her own family experiences. But her most endearing quality is she is “pure of heart.” That is a rare quality found in humans in any walk of life much less a formidable politician speaking to her audience from the heart.

    The attraction by so many to her is her fearlessness to speak her mind in a way that touches the minds and souls of everyday people living out everyday scenarios they can easily identify with in her speeches. Gotta Love Sarah! She’s a good one.

  325. Mrs. Smith
    October 16th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
    ======================================

    I so agree with you! I was laughing, and smiling throughout the video. She is a gem.

  326. nomobama
    October 16th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    The comments she made at 28:44 to 29:20 were priceless.

    Telling Pelosi, Obama and Boxer “to get out of the way” and putting people first instead of a using a 2″ fish as “bait”! Excellent!

  327. I also liked when she mentioned the oil supplies within our own borders for our own use, and how we need to political will to tap into our resources to make this a safer nation. You can tell that she was a little pissed off about it. I like when she gets a bit annoyed because she starts to show some strength, in my opinion, like don’t cross this line or your are going to get it.

  328. Yes, and the fact she never forgets to speak of the military several times in all her speeches. Knowing her son is serving in the face of danger everyday in Iraq.

  329. HillaryforTexas
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    =============

    Okay, I’ll start looking. Here’s a start.

    The Imam cited that the American Constitution and Declaration of Independence expressed Islamic values of life, dignity, religion, family, property and intellect. Interspersed in his remarks were references to the Qur’an and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet) to substantiate his points. What surprised many in the audience was when he went even further, challenging some Muslims for neglecting the values within Islam, and its inherent principles of tolerance. He said that many Muslims have in fact “made Islam itself into a god to worship,” while forgetting its “inner concepts.” He said that in centuries passed it was natural to have different religious and ethnic communities living side-by-side within Muslim societies. What has happened, he asked, in the last fifty years, as many of the Jews and other minority groups have emigrated from countries such as Egypt, for example? He answered his own question, “We are poorer for it.” The audience’s reaction was applause and enthusiasm.
    [….]
    The audience at the Dubai School of Government, consisted of a motley crew of journalists (from CNN, ABC News, Reuters, and a bevy of local papers), students, financial professionals, government officials, and academics. Largely Muslim, but not exclusively so, the crowd hailed from nearly every country in the region. Libya. Syria. Iran. Pakistan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taufiq-rahim/imam-praises-america-as-m_b_700156.html

  330. ha! Mentioning Obama voted for deficit spending exacerbating the problem…ZING!

    ha! Carbon Tax- a nightmare for Pleasant St… ZING

    ha! Outsourcing and subsidizing off shore drilling.. Soros/Brazil (gifted from Obama 2nd day after Inaugeration)…ZING²

    ha! Interviewing herself..hilarious- What do you really read in Alaska? duh? 🙄

  331. Landslide.

    Rasmussen Predicts GOP Gain of 55 in House
    by John Gizzi
    10/16/2010

    Newport Beach, Calif.—Nationally-recognized pollster Scott Rasmussen last night predicted that Republicans would gain 55 seats in races for the U.S. House of Representatives November 2—much more than the 39 needed for a Republican majority in the House for the first time since 2006.

    But the man whose Rasmussen Reports polling is watched carefully by politicians and frequently quoted by the punditocracy said that whether Republicans gain the ten seats they need to take control of the Senate is in question.

    “Republicans should have 48 seats [after the elections next month], Democrats 47, and five seats could slide either way,” said Rasmussen in his banquet address at the Western Conservative Political Action Conference. He was referring to seats in five states in which the Senate race this year he considers too close to call: California, Illinois, Washington, West Virginia, and Nevada (or “that mudwrestling contest,” as Rasmussen described the race between Republican Sharron Angle and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid).

    In recent years, Rasmussen has gained widespread attention for being the first to forecast Scott Brown’s dramatic win in the special Massachusetts Senate race in January (the major networks never knew it was a competitive race until the weekend before the election) and the political vulnerability among Pennsylvania Republicans of Sen. Arlen Specter (who later switched to Democrat and lost his new party’s primary in May of this year).

    Rasmussen also brought out some intriguing survey figures regarding the economy for the Western CPAC crowd at the Radisson Hotel here in Newport Beach.

    Noting that the top three issues this election year are “one-the economy, two-the economy, and three-the economy,” Rasmussen said his polls show overwhelming support among voters nationwide for cutting spending, taxes, and the deficit.

    “And by two-to-one, voters say they prefer a congressman who will reduce overall spending to one who promises to bring a ‘fair share’ of government spending to their congressional district,” the veteran pollster said, adding that a plurality of Texas voters backed Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s recent decision to turn down federal dollars a program because federal strings were attached to it.

    The Republicans’ strong position three weeks before midterm elections began, Rasmussen recalled, “when every Republican [in the House] said they would oppose the stimulus package. That’s when the generic ballot [showing support for Republican and Democrat candidates nationwide] started to go up.” He also noted that support fell dramatically for the Democratic healthcare reform bill “when the CBO [Congressional Budget Office] figures showed it would cost more than a trillion dollars.

    And support for it never recovered.”

    Voter nervousness about the economy, Rasmussen noted, is clear in the declining number of people he finds who feel their own finances are “in good order.” Two years ago, he recalled, 43% of Americans felt their finances were in good order, 38% felt this way the day Barack Obama was elected, and 35% felt that way on the day he took office as President.

    “At the beginning of the year, that figure dropped to 32%,” he added, “and today, it is down to 30%.” Rasmussen also said that more than half of homeowners are “unsure if their home is worth more than their mortgage.”

    Noting how he periodically polls about different terms—conservative and liberal, for example—Rasmussen said that the term packing the most response is “tea party.”

    “It generates the strongest reaction, both positive and negative, among voters,” he concluded, “It’s a defining force.”

  332. turndownobama —–> You make no sense:

    October 16th, 2010 at 2:47 am

    The worry is about ‘jihadist’ terrorists who get new recruits every time we insult ALL Muslims or ALL Islam.

    when we sound like ignorant bigots, it makes the 95% peaceful Muslims discouraged about controlling their 5% jihadists. Why bother, if those crazy Westerners are just going to condemn
    ALL Islam anyway, and persecute nice people like Rauf.

    Are you saying: If I shut up about Muslim men raping, beating, burning, cutting off noses and ears, stoning, beheading women and throwing acid in the face of school girls, raping them and forcing them into marriages, shooting their daughters and leaving them in the back seat of a borrowed taxi – the jihadists will go away and muslims will stop trying to force their ideas on the rest of the world.

    So it is all my fault, me and my big mouth.

    Or are you saying that if I shut up the peaceful 95%, after 1300 years, will speak up and say: Oh – no no, you can’t have my eight year old daughter for your 5th wife, especially since 3 of your other wives got separated from their heads in as many years.

    Or maybe they will try to impose new rules: You can’t throw acid at a little girl till she is over 10 years old even if she wants to go to school.

    And finally when you say “Why bother, if those crazy Westerners are just going to condemn ALL Islam anyway”

    Why SHOULD THEY BOTHER turndownobama BECAUSE IT IS WRONG, and what I say or do should not stop or start their efforts to protect their daughters !

    I read somewhere, maybe here and I can’t remember it exactly but here goes:

    If there must be trouble let it be in my time so that my children can live in peace.

    Amen, amen, I say.

  333. Andrew Breitbart said in his speech “Harry Pelosi” by accident, but he was able to laugh it off. Excellent… can you imagine Harry Pelosi? What a monster, no?

  334. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/a_metric_for_muslim_moderation.html

    October 16, 2010
    A Metric for Muslim Moderation
    By William Anderson
    =========================================================

    Islam is a total system for the supervision and governance of human affairs. It comprises religion, politics, jurisprudence, military affairs, economics, culture, domestic relations, and every other aspect of life. It is the answer to all questions, albeit from the perspective of a seventh-century revelation. Its fundamental tenets may not be altered, since it is taken to originate by Divine command.

    In the modern world, there are areas of conflict between orthodox Muslims and those of other cultures who do not share this point of view. Thus arises the question of whether Muslims generally accept this totalist view in a strong form or whether there are “moderate” Muslims willing to make compromises with the values and customs of the modern world.

    Seemingly endless debate concerns itself with identifying and defining the moderate Muslim. There is no consensus on the set of beliefs and practices that would be required.

    I here propose an operational definition: A moderate Muslim, in America, is one who declares first political loyalty to the Constitution and the laws which emanate from it.

    It follows that such a moderate Muslim respects the traditional Islamic law known as Sharia to the extent that is consistent with the Constitution. A moderate Muslim neither supports nor encourages the undermining or replacement of the Constitution. A moderate Muslim actively opposes attempts to spread Islam by violence, intimidation, or coercion.

    The core of the Constitution of the United States is the assertion of popular sovereignty within a system of ordered liberty, the requirement that Congress makes the laws, and the requirement that all persons shall enjoy equal protection of these laws.

    The core of Sharia is that only Allah is sovereign and that all law is Divinely mandated. No human agency may make or alter it. It requires unequal protection of the law. For example, Muslim men enjoy privileges not granted to women and non-Muslims.

    While there are several schools of Islamic law and myriad interpretations, all cleave to the foundational belief that men may not make laws, that Allah’s law must favor Muslims, and that there is an affirmative duty to advance the dominion of Islam, and thus Sharia, by all available means, violent or non-violent, as tactics may require. Reciprocity is not a part of the picture. Islam demands rights that it refuses to others.

    One such demand is that Islam not be insulted, by which is meant that it may not be criticized. Free speech is thus forbidden in this area, and a violent response to such speech is condoned.

    It is thus beyond rational dispute that the Constitution and Sharia cannot coexist within the same polity. No artful hand-waving, dissimulation, or obfuscation can disguise this essential incompatibility. No twisted logic can square this circle. No pretense of similarity between them can diminish this truth. They cannot be applied in the same legal system without mortal conflict.

    Some scholars have noted that Sharia is a vast compendium of commentary on all manner of legal affairs that has developed over the last 1,400 years. It follows, in their view, that Sharia need not be incompatible with the Constitution or other legal systems, since no one can say for sure just what Sharia requires.

    This is sophistry of the deepest dye. Every legal system exists on two levels of abstraction, idealist and realist, and the borders of these domains are the subject of endless debate and confusion. There is the Sharia of philosophers, and there is the Sharia of the of the clerics and the police.

    While there is no universal understanding of Sharia’s tenets, as a practical matter, whoever wields political power makes the determination. Dissenters do so at their peril. The most militant practitioners tend to be the arbiters of interpretation.

    The Constitution is based on a deep foundation of Enlightenment thought, buttressed by English common law, Greco-Roman philosophy, and Judeo-Christian ethics. But the Constitution is an entirely practical document. It instructs on the proper limits and powers of government. It is silent on the great questions of theology. It does not define the totality of human experience.

    Islamic law could not be more different. It presupposes the identity of religion and state as well as the submission of the individual to this unified and Divinely inspired collective. Saudi Arabia and Iran declare it to be the foundation of their jurisprudence. The Muslim Brotherhood, a rising force in Egypt and increasingly influential even in American Muslim organizations, embraces its sovereignty.

    Although metaphysicians continue to weave fabrics of moonbeams, pointing out the beauty, scope, justice, and mercy contained in Sharia, it nevertheless remains true that real countries base their real law on what they insist is Sharia, and that some things that actually happen because of it are lethal to democracy and the Constitution. When a woman is stoned to death on a specious charge of adultery, it is Sharia, as defined by the ruler, that provides the moral sanction for the sentence.

    Some scholars argue that Sharia can pose no threat to the Constitution as long as Americans are steadfast in affirming democratic principles and in retaining a faith in the durability of our culture. Yet that is precisely the premise that radical Muslims attack, and it is that which we need most urgently to defend. We fail to do this if we concede a moral equivalence between democratic values and totalist mandates, however dressed in philosophical or religious finery.

    Precisely because force in the service of theology is the final arbiter of interpretation of Sharia, there is no way that our Constitution can be compliant with it. Similarly, there is no way that the Sharia of the real world can be compatible with the Constitution. Therefore, American Muslims must make a choice. Moderates will recognize the legal supremacy of the Constitution. Those Muslims who do not are necessarily, and regrettably, our deepest adversaries.

    This is not to suggest that such a decision is simple or easy for Muslims. To proclaim such moderation is to raise the specter of apostasy in the minds of radical Muslims. Sharia asserts an affirmative duty to kill such offenders.

    American political leadership has been slow to recognize the fusion of a murky theology with a totalitarian political perspective. We have no quarrel with the former, but we cannot ignore the latter in the name of religious tolerance. We support freedom of religion, but the religion must respect our laws.

    Reflexive appeal to the First Amendment clouds our thinking and serves to obscure this obvious incompatibility. In America, Muslims are free to embrace the theology of their choosing, but they are not free to justify political totalism as a religious tenet.

    We cannot avoid recognizing this incompatibility. However discomforting it may be, we must face the fact, sooner rather than later, that Muslims in America must choose between Sharia and liberty.

  335. Like the election of 1840. If Hillary does not run:

    Tipacanoe and Tyler too
    What’s the cause of this commotion, motion, motion,
    Our country through?
    It is the ball a-rolling on

    For Sarah and Marco too.
    For Sarah and Marco too.
    And with them we’ll beat skinny Bam, Bam, Bam
    Bam is a used up man.
    And with them we’ll beat little Bam.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippecanoe_and_Tyler_too

  336. As I look at the current court, it strikes me that the most Orwellian member is Justice Breyer. He is also a limousine liberal married to a European aristocrat. Cass Sunstein is working behind the scene to radically change our system of government. He is a friend and defender of Breyer. I believe the two lightweights recently appointed to the court were put there to strengthen Breyers hand. Watch how he uses the word liberty to describe what is in fact its opposite. The collect whose service is perfect freedom. Watch:
    ————————————————-
    Breyer expounds on his judicial philosophy in 2005 in Active Liberty: Interpreting Our Democratic Constitution. In it, Breyer urges judges to interpret legal provisions (of the Constitution or of statutes) in light of the purpose of the text and how well the consequences of specific rulings will fit those purposes. The book is considered a response to the 1997 book A Matter of Interpretation, in which Antonin Scalia emphasized adherence to the original meaning of the text alone.[17][28]
    In Active Liberty, Breyer argues that the Framers of the Constitution sought to establish a democratic government involving the maximum liberty for its citizens. Breyer refers to Isaiah Berlin’s Two Concepts of Liberty. The first Berlinian concept, being what most people understand by liberty, is “freedom from government coercion;” Berlin termed this negative liberty and warned against its diminution. Breyer terms this “modern liberty.” The second Berlinian concept — to Berlin, “positive liberty” — is the “freedom to participate in the government;” In Breyer’s terminology, this is the “active liberty,” which the judge should champion. Having established this premise of what liberty is, and having posited the primary importance of this concept over the competing idea of “Negative Liberty” to the Framers, Breyer argues a predominantly utilitarian case for judges making rulings that give effect to the democratic intentions of the Constitution.
    Both of the books’ historical premises and practical prescriptions have been challenged. For example, according to Prof. Peter Berkowitz,[29] the reason that “[t]he primarily democratic nature of the Constitution’s governmental structure has not always seemed obvious,” as Breyer puts it, is “because it’s not true, at least in Breyer’s sense that the Constitution elevates active liberty above modern [negative] liberty.” Breyer’s position “demonstrates not fidelity to the Constitution,” Berkowitz argues, “but rather a determination to rewrite the Constitution’s priorities.” Berkowitz suggests that Breyer is also inconsistent, in failing to apply this standard to the issue of abortion, instead preferring decisions “that protect women’s modern liberty, which remove controversial issues from democratic discourse.” Failing to answer the textualist charge that the Living Documentarian Judge is a law unto himself, Berkowitz argues that Active Liberty “suggests that when necessary, instead of choosing the consequence that serves what he regards as the Constitution’s leading purpose, Breyer will determine the Constitution’s leading purpose on the basis of the consequence that he prefers to vindicate.”
    Against the last charge, Professor Cass Sunstein has defended Breyer,

  337. ANderson wrote:
    Some scholars have noted that Sharia is a vast compendium of commentary on all manner of legal affairs that has developed over the last 1,400 years. It follows, in their view, that Sharia need not be incompatible with the Constitution or other legal systems, since no one can say for sure just what Sharia requires.

    [cut crap] Every legal system exists on two levels of abstraction, idealist and realist, and the borders of these domains are the subject of endless debate and confusion. There is the Sharia of philosophers, and there is the Sharia of the of the clerics and the police.

    While there is no universal understanding of Sharia’s tenets, as a practical matter, whoever wields political power makes the determination.

    ==================

    One of Rauf’s projects is to be a cleric who makes that determination for, at least, some Muslims of Manhattan. To find the subset of Sharia that is acceptable within US law and culture. Each different nation/culture needs a different subset, he says.

    In effect, for US law and custom to trump any conflicting rules of Sharia.

    As to God’s law trumping man’s law — we have plenty of Christians who say that, and want to make civil laws enforcing Old Testament rules, and even say the Bible trumps the Constitution because the Constitution was based on the Bible.

    Nonsense. But we do all get along.

  338. District Republican Democrat Supported Clinton/Obama Projected Winner Gain/Hold
    California CD-47 Van Tran Loretta Sanchez Clinton Sanchez Weak Dem Hold
    Iowa CD-3 Brad Zaun Leonard Boswell Clinton Boswell Weak Dem Hold
    Missouri CD-4 Vicky Hartzler Ike Skelton Clinton Skelton Weak Dem Hold
    N Carolina CD-11 Jeff Miller Heath Shuler Clinton Shuler Mod Dem Hold
    New York CD-1 Randy Altschuler Tim Bishop Clinton Bishop Weak Dem Hold
    New York CD-19 Nan Hayworth John Hall Clinton Hayworth Weak GOP Gain
    New York CD-24 Richard Hanna Michael Arcuri Clinton Arcuri Weak Dem Hold
    Penn CD-11 Louis Barletta Paul Kanjorski Clinton Barletta Mod GOP Gain
    Texas CD-23 Francisco Canseco Ciro Rodriguez Clinton Canseco Weak GOP Gain
    Arizona CD-5 David Schweikert Harry Mitchell Obama Schweikert Weak GOP Gain
    Arizona CD-8 Jesse Kelly Gabrielle Giffords Obama Kelly Weak GOP Gain
    California CD-11 David Harmer Jerry McNerney Obama Harmer Weak GOP Gain
    Colorado CD-3 Scott Tipton John Salazar Obama Tipton Weak GOP Gain
    Florida CD-22 Allen West Ron Klein Obama West Weak GOP Gain
    Georgia CD-2 Michael Keown Sanford Bishop Obama Bishop Weak Dem Hold
    Illinois CD-14 Randy Hultgren Bill Foster Obama Hultgren Weak GOP Gain
    Indiana CD-2 Jackie Walorski Joe Donnelly Obama Donnelly Weak Dem Hold
    Indiana CD-9 Todd Young Baron Hill Obama Young Weak GOP Gain
    Kentucky CD-3 Todd Lally John Yarmuth Obama Yarmuth Mod Dem Hold
    Kentucky CD-6 Andy Barr Ben Chandler Obama Chandler Weak Dem Hold
    Minnesota CD-1 Randy Demmer Tim Walz Obama Walz Weak Dem Hold
    N Dakota CD-AL Rick Berg Earl Pomeroy Obama Berg Weak GOP Gain
    Ohio CD-18 Bob Gibbs Zack Space Obama Gibbs Weak GOP Gain
    Penn CD-4 Keith Rothfus Jason Altmire Obama Altmire Mod Dem Hold
    Penn CD-8 Michael Fitzpatrick Patrick Murphy Obama Fitzpatrick Weak GOP Gain
    S Carolina CD-5 Mick Mulvaney John Spratt Obama Mulvaney Weak GOP Gain
    Texas CD-17 Bill Flores Chet Edwards Obama Flores Mod GOP Gain
    Virginia CD-9 Morgan Griffith Rick Boucher Obama Boucher Weak Dem Hold
    Washington CD-2 John Koster Rick Larsen Obama Larsen Weak Dem Hold
    W. Virginia CD-3 Elliott Maynard Nick Rahall Obama Rahall Mod Dem Hold
    Wisconsin CD-8 Reid Ribble Steve Kagen Obama Ribble Mod GOP Gain

  339. Interesting info about Facebook, admin. Thank you for writing about this. I remember during the primaries that Hillary’s One Million and Strong Facebook group had issues with getting Facebook to respond to the issues they were having with BOTs trolling the Hillary facebook group. (I think Will Bower may have been involved with this, not sure).

    Anyway, the Hillary facebook group tried to get Facebook to fix the software so they could ban trolls — for months they tried to get this level of tech support from Facebook, starting in January 2008 — but to no avail. Of course, the Obama Facebook group had no such problems with the software, and could ban whomever they wanted.

    This new information then, about how Facebook started, makes me now wonder about their previous actions in a different light.

  340. “Islam a total system for the supervision and governance of human affairs. It comprises religion, politics, jurisprudence, military affairs, economics, culture, domestic relations, and every other aspect of life. It is the answer to all questions, albeit from the perspective of a seventh-century revelation. Its fundamental tenets may not be altered, since it is taken to originate by Divine command.”

    The above is quoted from (and contributed by) a non-Muslim who purports to know a lot about, or the essential aspects of, Islam.

    What he is saying can also be applied to Christianity as expounded by the Roman Catholic Church, which expounded religious dogma that covered politics, jurisprudence, military affairs, economics and finance, culture, domestic relations, and every other aspect of life in Christendom up until the early 16th century when lay people and some clerics began to revolt. That revolt is still going on today, as is the Roman Catholic dogma machine.

    The difference between that machine and Muslim ideologies is that the former is monolithic, top-down, and represents a strong strain of Christian thinking, whereas the latter is manifold, varied and very close to grunt believer and his/her Imam, more like protestant Christianity.

    This is why turndownobama’s quote rings true, ie “There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world [and tens of millions of Imams]. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word ‘they’ to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.”

    nomobama’s well-thought-out reply to this self-evident truth is: “Wrong”.

    And gonzotx chimes in with: “… there are no moderates of Islam…they think they are… only because they are irrelevant in a Islamic world. They are a figment of their own imagination.”

    This just shows how deeply committed some of our contributors are to using “they” to talk about muslims. Any muslims who don’t agree with them are just “irrelevant”.

    mj once said that (s)he knows two muslims very well. I have said several times that I have known “only” 8 muslims for any length of time. turndownobama may not know any muslims, but has contributed enlightening comments about islamic beliefs and the status of Islam in the world. All of our comments are simply brushed aside by the likes of nomobama and gonzotx, who seem never to have encountered a muslim, and whose main weapons of communication are ignorance and sarcasm.

  341. I know that my comment pertains to a debate from a few days ago that had already been discussed somewhat here, but there really nothing wrong with Christine O’Donnell. Suprisingly, after all that she has been attacked with, and having three people on that debate panel pretty much ganging up on her, she did well against a guy who was both condescending, and not very likeable. Yes, Christine O’Donnell has a likeability quotient that Chris Coons does not have. It’s too bad that Bill Maher, that shifty son – of – witch has done what he has done to her to try to destroy her chances. I hope that a Christine O’Donnell win is her retribution for being subjected to his uppity behavior. This end result of this debate is that both BØ and Joe Biden had to campaign for the little weasle that Ms. O’Donnell debated to a standstill. Coons may have had the benefit of Maher, and the preceived support of Wolf Blitzer, and whoever the female moderator was at the recent debate, but he didn’t destroy Christine O’Donnell, and that must scare the crap out of them. Here’s to an O’Donnell win in Delaware.

  342. I’d have to say Marco Rubio at this point is coming across as one of the new wave brighter younger telegenic Republicans, I have a feeling this guy will be a VP in either 2016 or 2020.

  343. Hilarious, this is gonna go down well in a broke state.

    Demented Demo Jerry Brown Thinks California has Plenty of Wealth to Send Illegals to College

    Democrat and California gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown has taken a giant step in pandering for the Hispanic vote. He claimed California has plenty of wealth and one of the first bills he signs will be special college admission for illegals. Here is a newsflash for Jerry Brown. California is broke and he is largely responsible by kicking open the doors for public employee unions.

    http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2010/10/demented-demo-jerry-brown-thinks.html

  344. When Supreme Court justices enter the House of Representatives in their black robes for the president’s next State of the Union address, Samuel Alito does not plan to be among them. The justice said the annual speech to Congress has become very political and awkward for the justices, who he says are expected to sit “like the proverbial potted plant.”
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/16/supreme-court-justice-alito-plans-skip-state-union-address/?test=latestnews

    For the first time in my life, I’m proud of Justice Alito.

  345. Our girl on the move:

    Clinton to Tech Innovators and Entrepreneurs: “We Want You”

    BY E.B. BoydSat Oct 16, 2010

    Feeling cooped up in that dingy old cube? Life seem a little meaningless? No worries. The State Department will be happy to send you to the far reaches of the planet to end violence, empower citizens, and bring peace and prosperity to the rest of the world.

    Public officials swinging by Silicon Valley usually are on the prowl for precious campaign dollars. But Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made a point of stopping by the Bay Area on Friday night to ask for something completely different: the tech world’s energy and expertise. “The new communication tools that you and I use as a matter of course are helping to connect and empower civil society leaders, democracy activists, and everyday citizens,” Clinton said in a speech at San Francisco’s Commonwealth Club. “We need your help.”

    You might have heard how, over the past couple of years, the State Department has been reaching out to the tech world for help with their diplomatic and development goals, particularly through delegations of tech innovators and entrepreneurs to places like Iraq, Russia, and Mexico, where they’ve explored how the the Internet, mobile phones, and other tech tools can be used to build democracy and combat violence. The initiatives have apparently been working so well that Clinton carved time out of her globe-trotting schedule to make a public speech—only her third since becoming the country’s top diplomat—to implore the Bay Area’s innovators to join the State Department’s efforts. “Whether you care about Haiti … violence in Mexico from the drug cartels … national treasures in Iraq,” Clinton said, “we want you to know there’s a place for you.”

    Part of our approach is to embrace new tools like using cellphones for mobile banking or to monitor elections. But we’re also reaching [out] to the people behind these tools, the innovators and the entrepreneurs themselves.

    We know that many business leaders want to devote some of their companies’ expertise to solving problems around the world, but they often don’t know how to do that. What’s the point of entry? Which idea is going to have the most impact?

    To bridge that gap, we are embracing new public-private partnerships that link the on-the-ground experience of our diplomats and development experts with the energy and resources of the business community.

    Since taking office, Clinton has appointed a Special Representative for Global Partnerships to catalyze collaboration with the private sector, hosted conferences like “TED at State,” and, most recently, set up a seed fund within US AID, Development Innovation Ventures, to provide start-up money to potential development game-changers, like a new idea for solar lighting in Uganda and a bicycle that doubles as a power source.

    “Diplomacy and outreach can’t just be left to our government,” Clinton told the audience in San Francisco . “There are so many ways that we can influence what goes on in other countries.” Technology “is not a silver bullet,” she noted. “But all over the world, we see [its] promise.”

    “If you have a good idea, we will listen.”

  346. President Obama’s faithful losing hope as the magic fades

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?&articleid=1289372&format=&page=1&listingType=col

    This president gives rousing speeches. He did it again yesterday. He bounded out onto the Hynes Convention Center stage, all youth and vigor, open-necked white shirt, navy blazer.

    But he didn’t sell me, or reassure me.

    And he obviously knows he’s having trouble connecting — even with true believers. He talked about this yesterday: the “fun” and “feeling good” and overwhelming optimism of Inauguration Day vs. the undercurrent of skepticism now.

    Remember? Obama was JFK, RFK and MLK rolled into one. He was a once-in-a-generation superstar. The savior had been born.

    What happened?

    “I know that hope may have faded as we grind it out. I know it’s hard to keep faith,” he said yesterday, “with another foreclosure sign hung on the house down the street, and you watch TV and all you see are politicians tearing each other down.

    “(The Republicans) figured they could ride people’s frustration and anger all the way to the ballot box,” he said.

    Alas for Obama, it looks like Republicans figured right. Here’s one emotion loose upon the land that Obama neglected to mention: fear.

    Barack Obama offered up this metaphor yesterday: America’s a car that Republicans drove into a ditch.

    Then along came Obama and the Democrats. “We put our boots on and went down into the ditch, and we started pushing that car out,” the president told the cheering crowd. “It was hot down there and muddy, but we kept on pushing. And every once in a while we looked up and the Republicans are standing up there tanning themselves, sipping Slurpees, and we say, ‘Hey, are you gonna help?’ ”

    But the Republicans told us, said Obama, “You’re not pushing the right way.”

    You’re not pushing the right way.

    I don’t think the president meant to undermine anybody’s confidence with his wrong-way-out-of-the-ditch story yesterday. But that’s the nagging question — isn’t it? Even among the once-Obamified, like me? We’re afraid he’s not really getting us out of our ditch. And the ditch is getting deeper. And it’s very scary stuff

    read on……………………………

  347. With regards to feelings about islam, I wonder if some people(someone) post here to simply provoke. This site has over the years attained a lot of credit for insightfulness and I think a poster or two goes out of “its” way to try and damage the site by needling. We are a little over two weeks before the election and I think some people want to paint this site as something it is not. Opinions about islam vary but is never the meat of this site unless a poster makes it so. If you came here for the first time yesterday that is what you would think this is about.
    If someone is repeatedly provoking why is it coming to this site? Oh let me guess to create dissonance and to make it seem to the newcomer that this is an illegitimate site.

    I say “take down” someone who posts with intent to disrupt but wait til after Nov 2.

  348. jeswezey
    October 17th, 2010 at 7:03 am
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    I am not William Anderson. I did not write the comment that you refer to, although I posted it here, with an attribution to who wrote it. I posted it because of the first paragraph being a description of how I view Islam, not as a religion, but as something all encompassing to an adherent’s every day life.

    While Christianity vies for adherents, and recommends how an adherent should live his or her life based on God’s law, it also is subservient to western political institutions. It may try to affect the laws in western countries, but it does not subvert them when a particular law is not to its preference or liking. It does not issue fatwas to silence those that support a different viewpoint of current law, although it may try to persuade the political establishment, and the population in general, as to why a particular law does not support their view of God’s plan. In this scenario, there is still separation of church and state, even if there is an attempt by the church to influence the law. In Islam, once dominant, you don’t see the same concept in play. An overwhelmingly dominant Islam is the death knell to a vibrant democracy. This arguably is not a religion of peace, but a religion that tries to dominate all competing religions, and political philosophies through force if necessary in order to bring about peace in the world as defined by them. Yet, this very peace is not achieved through ideas alone, but through forcing the world population to accept their ideas by coercion.

    Your comment

    “This is why turndownobama’s quote rings true, ie “There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world [and tens of millions of Imams]. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word ‘they’ to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.”

    is hollow. You turn around and do exactly the same thing by condemning the Catholic church by calling it a monolith, but disregard the different strains of thought that run through the churches veins. There is no consideration in your comment with regards to apostasy in Islam, and how that very tool is used to keep not just these “millions of Imans” in line, but the entire Muslim population in line, knowing that if they stray too far from or even repudiate the tenets of Islam, they could very well find themselves hanging from a noose in some public square. That’s enlightenment for you. Oh, sorry about the sarcaaaaasm.

  349. GOP cash threatens to swamp Dems

    It doesn’t pay to be a Democratic incumbent in 2010.

    House and Senate Democrats — all the way up to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid — are being outraised by GOP rivals as the cash follows the momentum. Fundraising by outside groups also heavily favors Republicans, suggesting that Democrats can’t count on a last-minute cash surge to keep a tough midterm cycle from getting even tougher.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43707.html#ixzz12cPJXUDY

  350. “…no consideration in your comment with regards to apostasy in Islam, and how that very tool is used to keep not just these “millions of Imans” in line, but the entire Muslim population in line, knowing that if they stray too far from or even repudiate the tenets of Islam, they could very well find themselves hanging from a noose in some public square.”

    I’m sorry, but there is no such entity for keeping the rank-and-file muslim “in line”, no less the imams, of whom there are not “millions” but tens of millions.

    “…there is still separation of church and state, even if there is an attempt by the church to influence the law. In Islam, once dominant, you don’t see the same concept in play.”

    The Church does indeed weigh in heavily on the conduct of State affairs in Italy, but also in Latin America. And Poland!

    As for Islam, your remark is unfounded. Pakistan’s government, for example, is secular.

    You have no reason not to agree with:

    “There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world [and tens of millions of Imams]. It is unquestionably the most diverse, the most eclectic religion in the history of the world. This concept of just using this word ‘they’ to describe one-and-a-half billion people is actually the definition of bigotry.”

    This is simply the case. You persist in referring to muslims as “they” and “them” and to “Islam” as some sort of unified entity that “we” can make generalizations about. All – yes, all – of the generalizations you insist on expounding here are upended by this obvious reality and are nothing less than bigotry. It’s as if you wanted to make generalizations about how women, whites, blacks, Jews, immigrants, or any other demographic thinks about whatever subject comes to your mind.

    You would have less difficulty, however, making generalizations about Catholics, because the Catholic Church has a well-run-in dogma machine.

  351. henry: “If someone is repeatedly provoking why is it coming to this site?”

    If it is I whom you are accusing of “provoking”, I don’t apologize. I am trying to reason with bigots.

    I do, however, understand your objection that this anti-Islam thing is a bit off-topic for election season. Then tell nomobama and gonzotx to stop throwing in these monkee wrenches.

  352. It seems to me that apostasy is defined in the Koran and Shariah law. Does the shahada not require a person to be a Muslim for life? What happens to the apostate in Islam? Do you deny that apostasy can result in death?

    You try to present yourself as a non-bigot, but your very own comments in the past of the Catholic church belie that. Nice try, bigot. How do you like that, bigot? Call the kettle black much, bigot? Have a nice day, bigot.

  353. The Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America gave 62 percent of its PAC money to Democrats last quarter the latest FEC filings show. This doesn’t quite jibe with the Democrats’ Big-Business-Loves-the-GOP line, and it pokes yet another hole in President Obama’s claim that passing the health-care bill was an act of defiance of the special interests. This money is just direct contributions, and it doesn’t include money the drug industry sent to outside groups that cut ads for Harry Reid. Of course, if history is a guide*, the Washington Post will take this latest data as proof that the drug lobby is cozying up to Republicans, because 62 percent Democratic actually represents a more Republican quarter for PhRMA than the previous quarters: so far this election cycle, Dems have gotten 73% of the money PhRMA has given to candidates.
    h t t p://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Drug-lobby-sticks-with-Dems-through-hard-times-105108184.html

  354. holdthemaccountable
    October 17th, 2010 at 7:21 am
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    Interesting. I wonder if any of the other justices will be no-shows. I like that he is taking a stand as such, but at the same time, the past courtesy will be missed. That’s what you get when a president tries to drag the court through the mud.

  355. nomobama: “You try to present yourself as a non-bigot, but your very own comments in the past of the Catholic church belie that.”

    I don’t have much against the rank-and-file Catholic except that they let themselves be led around by the nose by their all-bachelor intelligentsia that has been expounding all kinds of anti-woman, anti-gay dogma for millennia and until today. It is the Church that emits all this nonsense, and I’m against almost all of it, from the priest on up. I am a Christian, but your Church does not recognize me = no communion.

    In short, it’s not because I am against the Church as institutional thought control that I am against the individual believers who let their minds be controlled, although I must admit I am wary of them and am often at odds with them when they express themselves on subjects on which the Church has already let God’s opinion be known to the world through the Pope & Co., such as birth control, abortion, homosexuality, and so forth and so on.

    I have never tried to present myself as a non-bigot, as you suggest. I don’t want to be a bigot; so, if you see me as such, please tell me how I should mend my ways. If, in order to prove my non-bigotry, you demand that I start to make generalizations about the religious beliefs, activities or lifestyles of a quarter of the world’s population, then you’ve lost me: I don’t know what bigot means.

  356. Thank you nomobama for bearing the brunt of responding to this discussion.
    _________________________

    nomobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 2:10 am

    “However discomforting it may be, we must face the fact, sooner rather than later, that Muslims in America must choose between Sharia and liberty.”
    ___________________________

    In this final sentence a revision may be necessary assigning the onus of responsibility falling on Sharia following Muslims. “Muslims in America must choose between Sharia and the Constitution.” Or at the very least denying the tenets of Sharia Law and in doing so becoming apostates to their own religion.

    nomobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    I see a non-answer to your question: “What happens to the apostate in Islam? Do you deny that apostasy can result in death?” Because the answer is obvious to us as we have come to learn through this discussion.

    Criticizing the Catholics using them as a comparison in a rather disingenuous response to a direct question. Islam does not recognize a separation of Church and State. There lies the unresolvable problem. Here in the US- Mohammad must come to the mountain to be in compliance with the Constitution and US Law not the other way around.

  357. jeswezey
    October 17th, 2010 at 9:20 am
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    I don’t demand anything from you other than a little respect. You will see it returned in kind.

    As I wrote once before, my opinions are… mine. I don’t pretend to be an expert. I rarely say someone else is outright wrong about anything, unless I have a verifiable fact to back it up. My belief about Islam is based on the belief itself, and only SOME of the adherents. It’s unfair that you can paint, for instance, the Catholic church with a broad brush, but then assail anyone else who uses the word “they” when describing more than one person without having to list individual names. I feel like you are asking for each and every name of each and every person that, in my opinion, has show what I consider to be the ugly face of a segment of Islam. I don’t believe that all Muslims hate the US, but I do believe that many of them do. I don’t believe that all Muslims make trouble in Europe, but I belive that a sizeable minority does cause the European countries grief. I don’t believe that all Muslims support what the men who attacked the World Trade Center did, but I am disheartened that even one Muslim danced in the street, or threw candy to passersby because they celebrated that heinous crime. Over 200 Muslims died in the World Trade Center. I think it plausible that most of their family members did not celebrate on that day. I am not going to repeat the following again because you will now know where I stand on this… I am against world domination by Islam. You can deny that it is the goal of Islam to dominate the world, but I see it differently. It’s my belief that this is what Islam is striving to accomplish. It does not make me a bigot to be against that, and against any Muslim who desires that. It makes me a man who is protecting is own culture against something foreign that has a stated goal (at least in some quarters) of destroying that very culture. And being a gay Christian myself, I may wince sometimes when I read an anti-gay comment by another Christian, but I don’t fear harm from these people. I don’t believe that I will be hung, stoned, beaten, imprisoned, or what have you for being who I am. If I were say, in a country like Iran, then I would feel otherwise. And yes, I do know that gay people are physically attacked in the US, but by and large, how many have been physically attacked by Christian clergy or those incited by them? My Christian faith is a one on one relationship with God, without interference from other Christians. I answer to God, not to them. In Islamic culture, I feel the opposite would be true as I would have to explain myself or my actions to my fellow adherents, and it had better be in a way that they agree with or my very life could be in their hands. I won’t stand for a religion that uses coercion to gain my adherence or authority over me. This is not an unfounded fear or concern. I don’t like when people downplay this. There is more than enough information out there, including from people who have left the Islamic faith, to show that this concern is justified.

  358. God, seriously the condescension is unbelievable.

    Obama: Dems are in trouble because Americans aren’t thinking clearly

    At a Saturday-evening fundraiser held in the home of a wealthy Massachusetts hospital executive, President Obama suggested Democrats are having difficulties in midterm campaigning because Americans simply aren’t thinking clearly. Seeking to explain his party’s troubles, the president focused not on controversial legislation like national health care and the stimulus but on evolutionary psychology. “Part of the reason that our politics seems so tough right now, and facts and science and argument do not seem to be winning the day all the time, is because we’re hard-wired not to always think clearly when we’re scared,” Obama told the assembled Democrats, who had paid $15,200 a person to attend. “And the country is scared.”

    To “break through the fear and the frustration that people are feeling right now,” Obama told the crowd, will require high-end donors not just to “write checks” but also to “lift up people’s spirits and make sure that they’re not reacting just to fear.”

    It’s not the first time Obama has ventured into psychology to explain the public’s resistance to Democratic policies. In a now-infamous April 2008 speech to a similarly posh fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama discussed Pennsylvanians who had seen their standard of living decline in recent years by saying: “It’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” In the ensuing controversy over his remarks, Obama did not apologize or back down from his position but conceded he had made “poor word choices.”

    First Lady Michelle Obama has also occasionally diagnosed the American public. According to an account in the New Yorker, she said at a March 2008 rally in South Carolina that Americans are “guided by fear” and that the United States as a country is “just downright mean.”

    At the Massachusetts event Saturday, Obama said November’s elections are “absolutely critical, because essentially you can respond in a couple of ways to a trauma like [the current recession]. I mean, one is to pull back, retrench, respond to your fears by pushing away challenges, looking backwards. And another is to say we can meet these challenges and we are going to move forward. And that’s what this election is about.”

    Obama’s host, Ralph de la Torre, is chief executive officer of Caritas Christi Health Care, a large New England hospital chain. According to a White House pool report, Obama was introduced by Sen. John Kerry, “who joked that there were so many physicians in the house…that the DSCC should be renamed ‘Doctors Sending Campaign Contributions.'”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-Dems-are-in-trouble-because-Americans-arent-thinking-clearly-105130709.html

  359. Mrs. Smith
    October 17th, 2010 at 9:50 am
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    It’s very disconcerting sometimes because the apologists for Islam seem to only be one-sided in their comments. It’s seems to be a leftist thing. They want to defend Muslims at any cost, but where is their defense of Christians, for instance, in Iraq, or Pakistan? In the US, the left relishes its attacks on Christianity, but for some reason, any anti-Islam comments are met with cries of bias and bigotry. It’s being two-faced, and as long as they think that they can get away with that, the more I want to bring it to the fore.

    It was mentioned that Pakistan is a secularist government, but that’s not how I see it at all. Pakistan is not far away from being a theocratic government. Many of the political parties within that country are aligned with Islam. Can you say that about the US? Not really. There are segments within the Republican party that are avowed Christian in their stances, but that’s just a portion of one political party. Even in so-called moderate Malaysia, Islam seems to be given this special treatment. This all seems to fly in the face of this benevolent Islam that certain people, (and I don’t mean the commenters here per se) try to make Islam to be. I don’t buy it.


  360. Demented Demo Jerry Brown Thinks California has Plenty of Wealth to Send Illegals to College

    Democrat and California gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown has taken a giant step in pandering for the Hispanic vote. He claimed California has plenty of wealth and one of the first bills he signs will be special college admission for illegals. Here is a newsflash for Jerry Brown. California is broke and he is largely responsible by kicking open the doors for public employee unions.”

    Rasmussen says that this is not an issue at the top of some peoples’s lists. Liberals don’t get it…they are out of touch. Gillibrand was the only dem I was planning to vote for even thought i was disappointed in how she was bullied by the dnc to vote along with them. I have met her and agree with her on many issues. HOWEVER, I received a campaing piece from her….English on one side…and Spanish on the other. Second on her list was her pride in sponsoring legislation to keep illegal immigrant families together and her desire to see all “immigrants” (no mention of illegality here) attain citizenship.
    I will not vote for her or any democrat here. I wonder who the Spanish is directed towards. The ballots are still only in English. When did we become a bilingual nation? Did we vote on that?

  361. Periscope

    by Niall O’Dowd
    October 16, 2010

    Absurd as Michelle Obama rated ahead of Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin as most powerful woman

    Forbes Magazine has rated Michelle Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin as the most powerful woman in the world.

    Big mistake.

    Michelle is named as No.1. Hillary is rated as No. 5, Sarah Palin at No.16

    Michelle Obama is an extraordinary woman but would have little impact were she not the wife of the president of the United States.

    There is also the reality that while the First Lady can inspire and encourage she cannot actually impact policy in any direct manner

    Hillary Clinton,of course, knows that very well and while she was initially in her husband’s shadows she has since emerged as a leader in her own right first as a U.S. senator then a presidential candidate and then as Secretary of State.

    She is by far the most accomplished woman of her generation.To rate her behind not only Michelle Obama, but Oprah Winfrey too is ludicrous

    It is hard to argue, as Forbes do, that a First Lady with no executive power is as powerful as the U.S. Secretary of State who has intervened in some of the world’s major trouble spots and has played an increasingly key role in the foreign policy agenda of Barack Obama.

    It is also hard to argue that Michelle is more powerful than Sarah Palin who at one point was potentially within a heartbeat of the presidency.

    Prior to that she was a popular governor of Alaska, one of the few women to run a statehouse.

    Since her presidential run she has become a political phenomenon influencing millions of Americans through her speeches, tweets and television interviews.

    Yet she is rated not only behind Michelle Obama but also Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Ellen De Generes

    But before some of you say it some liberal agenda, this is Forbes magazine, bastion of conservative politics.

    So their choices are bound to be controversial across the board. No question in my mind when it comes to power, Hillary Clinton should be rated first with Palin second.

    http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/periscope/absurd-as-michelle-obama-rated-ahead-of–hillary-clinton-sarah-palin-as-most-powerful-woman-105117144.html

  362. The local morning news in my area showcased Obama rallying support for his Irish Twin, Deval Patrick. Patrick has been instrumental in creating National Health Care Reform. Massachusetts HC was the model used for Obama’s HCR legislation which to date has been a total failure. Obama has had to bail out the MA HCR project sending the state an $8B dollar bailout just to keep it afloat ignoring the collapse of a plan that has had the time and space to prove itself unachievable and unreasonable for national implementation.

    Patrick has failed his constituency and by proxy, the American people, ignoring the black hole his HC plan has created for the state of Massachusetts. He needs to be defeated in the next election. Hopefully MA residents will see to it sending him packing preferably to a myriad of openings now available to him at the WH.

    http://getbetterhealth.com/healthcare-reform-what-we-should-learn-from-massachusetts-and-indiana/2010.03.16

  363. moononpluto
    October 17th, 2010 at 9:58 am
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    That’s too funny. The veil of Øbamaism is being lifted, and people don’t like what they see. It has nothing to do with not thinking clearly. It has everything to do with the fog being dissipated.

  364. Forbes Magazine has rated Michelle Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin as the most powerful woman in the world.
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    That and last year’s Nobel Peace Prize is Affirmative Action gone amuck. Let’s make a vow to teach the coming generations in our families that these two awards have been a terrible mistake.

  365. nomobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
    Mrs. Smith
    October 17th, 2010 at 9:50 am
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    It’s very disconcerting sometimes because the apologists for Islam seem to only be one-sided in their comments.
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    The reason the comments are one sided is because their beliefs are incompatible with our heritage and the very foundation of our democracy created by our Founding Fathers. Islam uses their Religion as a cudgel for citizen compliance. The very existence of democracy and a separation of Church and State in America has to be a never ending source of lethal consternation for radical Islamists. We have the freedom to choose where to live and what to believe. (They)Muslims do not have the liberty to choose. Perhaps this is why so many living here enjoy the freedom to choose afforded them by our country. Name calling, i.e. “BIGOT” as justification for a response is just a metamorphosis to the next step from being called a racist.

    This I believe history has demonstrated why the twains shall never meet. I appreciate the passionate response from H4T, gonzotx, Betty and nomobama defending our way of life. We have the freedom to turn to Isalm, Muslims face death reversing the same opportunity.

  366. Fortune is a very liberal business publication.

    Forbes is much more conservative

    Bloomberg is the “cocktail repub” publication, corporate welfare, etc

    CNBC is whatever GE tells it should be, so depends who is in charge in congress.

  367. moononpluto
    October 17th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    God, seriously the condescension is unbelievable.
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    When I read that line I thought you’re talking about some of the commenters here. 😉

    Probably I am the only one here (who comments regularly anyway) who has lived in a secular country with the second largest Muslim population in the world. And it is not Pakistan and anybody who highlights Pakistan as secular is ignorant and don’t know its history. And the Muslims in my country are regular people like you and me and their religion does not come first, for them their country comes first. Let us hope it remains that way in spite of unhealthy influences from outside forces.

    There is a group on this board who see the excesses of unspeakable acts against humanity (women are human, right?) in Islamic Republics (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan..) and want to understand where it is originating from and there is no question a lot of it comes from the religious practices. They want to object/protest those conditions and they should be free to do so instead of being called bigots and ignorant and such.

    Then there is this other group which thinks it is so sophisticated and ‘liberal’ and self-righteous that it is protecting ‘Muslims’ from the onslaught of a few bigoted commenters. Why ascribe a motive to commenters that may not be there and call them bigots when they are not that. There are serious problems in the way Islam is practiced by millions of people in some of these countries and that has to be acknowledged and reformed. And those of you who think you are so enlightened, are not helping the situation by covering up for them.

  368. Michelle Obama is the most powerful woman because she is ‘taking your dessert away’ (“Dessert is not a right!).

  369. pm I currently live in a a muslim secular state, how much longer it remains is debatable. So I know where you are coming from.

  370. Mrs. Smith
    October 17th, 2010 at 11:09 am
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    Thanks for your response. There are times when I think true crazy is running amock in this country. Those who carry the mantle of sanity, are many times downright crazy. I’ve noticed this with a large part of the left. They are so intent on ruling everyone else, yet they know that they are not the majority in this country, so they go about presenting themselves as such to fool the American public. I believe that they use demoralization as one of their many weapons to conquer their opposition. They know that it can be an effective tool to keep their opponents from confronting them, or from voting on election day. It’s a game of smoke and mirrors to them, a game at winning at any cost. It doesn’t matter to them if the majority doesn’t support them, as long as they are holding the reigns of power. They showed this with their help in Øbama’s passage of Øbamacare, and his stimulus bill. They don’t seem to care about the economic destruction that their agenda has set into place. I believe that it is quite possible that is what they want all along, an economic collapse with the blame placed on their opponents, to make them more popular with the voters. Their altruism is fake because it has more to do with keeping them in power than it does with helping those that they rule. I am so suspicious of much of what they stand for regardless of how it is presented to the rest of us. I simply don’t trust them.

  371. To “break through the fear and the frustration that people are feeling right now,” Obama told the crowd, will require high-end donors not just to “write checks” but also to “lift up people’s spirits and make sure that they’re not reacting just to fear.”
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    Mental illness, thou art afoot. So in his view the solution to the problem is not his incompetence, or the fact that he is taking the country in the wrong direction which imperils our future. No, not that. How could it possibly be that? Au contrare the problem is very simple. The great unwashed do not understand his brilliance. But if fat cats would just open their wallets then there would be joy again in Mudville. And if they really want to help those fat cats who probably paid $30,000 a plate to wallow in his bullshit, and to acquire access and influence should do what? Lift the spirits of common people–those who live in tent cities outside the gates of their mansions, who do not know yet how the other half lives (or more accurately 1% lives), but soon will. Question: are fat cats in the business of lifting spirits, and if so how? Just more tripe from a fading messiah, and his delusional bots in the upper class whose are either corrupt themselves or else ignorant as swans.

  372. pm317
    October 17th, 2010 at 11:29 am
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    With a common background, I have wondered how India has kept a lid on Muslim extremism from within their very large Muslim population while Pakistan has not been able to do so. My only conclusion is that there is something about Islam when it is predominate in a country that allows it to present a total, different face.

  373. nomobama: “I don’t demand anything from you other than a little respect. You will see it returned in kind.”

    I’m sorry you feel obliged to “demand” respect from me. I hope this demand stems from the fact that I called you a bigot, and not from my remarks about the Catholic Church. The remainder of your 9:50 am remarks do show that you’re coming from a fact-based approach, carefully using “some”, “not all” and so forth, which is a relief.

    But then you go back on the offensive at 10:05 am in your response to Mrs. Smith:

    “It’s very disconcerting sometimes because the apologists for Islam seem to only be one-sided in their comments.”

    Being one-sided was the very thing I was criticizing in your previous comments or, more precisely, making generalizations about ¼ of the world’s population to suit your anti-islamic cause.

    “It’s seems to be a leftist thing. [Oh, please!] They want to defend Muslims at any cost, but where is their defense of Christians, for instance, in Iraq, or Pakistan? In the US, the left relishes its attacks on Christianity, but for some reason, any anti-Islam comments are met with cries of bias and bigotry.”

    Here we go out on the battlefield again. I don’t appreciate being grouped into “leftists” (socialist yes, leftist no) and then being accused of defending “Muslims at any cost” and relishing attacks on Christianity and not defending Christians in Pakistan. You’re into we-they mode again, this time lumping leftists together with promoters of Islam.

    As to Mrs. Smith’s insistence on the question, What happens to apostates in Islam? I must say I knowingly sidestepped this question along with all the other questions, because it leads into the same trap of making generalizations about ¼ of the world’s population. That is, while apostates are stoned in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, they are not stoned in other parts of Afghanistan, nor in Nova Scotia. The fact that, in some parts of the world, people have an antediluvian mindset should not be a temptation for us to believe that people everywhere have that mindset. A mere 40 years ago, people with black skin were being lynched in Alabama, but not in New Jersey.

  374. Here in the US- Mohammad must come to the mountain to be in compliance with the Constitution and US Law not the other way around.

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    That’s what Rauf and Daisy are promoting: adjusting or selecting among the ‘sharia’ customs those customs that are acceptable in US law and custom. Or perhaps choosing from things acceptable in the US, a selection to designate acceptable for ‘sharia’ — for example the sort of clothes Daisy wears: a dress that looks like a normal US dress, if rather more comfortable than some of our styles. (I posted a link to the image some time ago.)

  375. JanH
    October 17th, 2010 at 10:22 am
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    I would have to agree with the last sentence. Hillary first, Sarah Palin second, and someone else third, and I am not too sure it should be Michelle Øbama in that position. Hillary has a position that can help change the world. Sarah has a position that right now could change the country, which eventually could lead to a change in the world. Michelle has her husband Barack screwing up this country, and the world. I mean really, what has Michelle done to affect anything in the country, or the world? Oh wait, I know. She’s turned the fashion industry on its head! ☻

  376. When if ever will the people of this country get wise to this game of smoke and mirrors? They are being buried alive, and do not get it. That is what he really meant by shovel ready. If they got it, there would not be a single democrat left standing. And in the next cycle they would do the same thing to the Republicans except for the Tea Party candidates. Simply put, we need a new kind of politics that works for the average American as opposed to the elites, and we must not allow the elites to divide the rest of us by race and gender to keep the flames from licking at their feet. The issue here is class, not race.

  377. jeswezey
    October 17th, 2010 at 11:55 am
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    You know what, I could care less what you think of me. Demand was not even what I should have typed there, but I was using YOUR word. Put it this way. Respect begets respect. Now I’m done with you today because you are aggravating me on my birthday, and I should be able to enjoy this day without the aggravation.

  378. Whether or not this NYT revelation is a substantial movement, we need to keep our eye on Iraq:
    Hundreds of members of the Awakening Councils, a collection of United States-allied Sunni sheiks and their militia forces, have quit or been dismissed from their positions in the past few months, the New York Times reported Saturday.Iraqi government officials say that the fighters, known as Sahwa, have left as a result of an intensive recruiting campaign by the Sunni insurgency and rejoined Al Qaeda. Many have extensive knowledge of the U.S. military, the Times said, adding that it is possible that thousands of the fighters who are working for the government are simultaneously assisting the insurgency.
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/17/report-sunni-allies-iraq-quit-rejoin-al-qaeda/

  379. nomobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 11:54 am
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    It is a long story. Pakistan did not start out that way. Then one of its presidents figured out if he revved up the masses using Islam, they will do anything in its name. He brought scores of Imams and basically converted a whole generation and more into religious zealots and there has been no turning back. Pakistan was the one who propped up and strengthened Taliban before 2002. You need a healthy and vocal middle class in a democracy. In countries like Pakistan, there is no middle class — there are peasants and the very wealthy (incidentally Hillary has been saying tax your rich instead of going around with a begging bowl). Pakistan military holds some 12% of the country’s wealth, can you imagine that? If you look at Saudi Arabia, again the same thing, the very rich and the very poor (how about giving the citizens oil dividends like Palin did?). The very rich (which includes the military in some countries) control the peasants using the religion. They are called Islamic Republics for a reason. Bush’s silly use of the word freedom is true — they die if they stray, in their own country.

  380. nomobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
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    I hope you have a wonderful birthday today. 🙂

    Paul McCartney – Birthday (Live)

  381. Carol
    October 17th, 2010 at 10:22 am
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    Wow, unbelievable gall on her part to send out campaign literature like that. I am glad that you have changed our mind about her. She is what is wrong with the US right now.

  382. making generalizations about ¼ of the world’s population to suit your anti-islamic cause. …. er parts of Afghanistan, nor in Nova Scotia. The fact that, in some parts of the world, people have an antediluvian mindset should not be a temptation for us to believe that people everywhere have that mindset.

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    I’ve been careful not to say anyone here IS a bigot, just that some posts SOUND like bigotry. But I don’t know any other word to use to desscribe lumping together of ALL Muslims or ALL ‘Islam’ and refusing to see distinctions between them. Or discounting the distinctions as not distinct enough. Perhaps by applying our own standard of ‘speaking out’ to people of a different culture, and condemning them for not doing it to our standard.

    To take a clearer example. Hostile media looks at the Tea Party, finds a few nuts in funny costumes and perhaps a few real racists showing up at a big rally — and labels ALL Tea Party people as nutty racists. When the majority of Tea Party people answer this, we’re told they don’t try hard enough to get rid of the racists, or don’t denounce them loud enough.

    Really, the attitude I can only call ‘bigotry’ describes a deeper attitude: an assumption that we CAN evaluate and condemn a group as big as 1/4 the world’s population, living for generations in very diverse nations, from Thailand to South America….

  383. JanH
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
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    Thanks Jan. I usually see the animated version of that song as a birthday video. It was nice to see a live version, with such good quality, and to also see Linda McCartney alive and well at the time. 🙂

  384. “Call me typo king.”
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    Today, you are birthday boy.

    Happy Birthday, many happy returns.

  385. Democrats have raised $1 million from foreign-affiliated PACs

    Democratic leaders in the House and Senate criticizing GOP groups for allegedly funneling foreign money into campaign ads have seen their party raise more than $1 million from political action committees affiliated with foreign companies.

    House and Senate Democrats have received approximately $1.02 million this cycle from such PACs, according to an analysis compiled for The Hill by the Center for Responsive Politics. House and Senate GOP leaders have taken almost $510,000 from PACs on the same list.

    The PACS are funded entirely by contributions from U.S. employees of subsidiaries of foreign companies. All of the contributions are made public under Federal Elections Commission rules, and the PACs affiliated with the subsidiaries of foreign corporations are governed by the same rules that American firms’ PACs or other PACs would face.

    “This is not foreign money per-se, but these PACs are certainly populated by people who work for foreign companies,” said Dave Levinthal, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics.

    “Foreign companies and foreign governments can lobby Congress, and that is probably one area where they have a measurable effect on politics,” Levinthal explained. “Foreign-subsidiary political action committees is about as close as you can get.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/124565-democrats-have-raised-1-million-from-foreign-affiliated-pacs

  386. “lift up people’s spirits and make sure that they’re not reacting just to fear.”

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    Maybe the groping speechwriter didn’t quite dare quote FDR directly.

  387. lived in a secular country with the second largest Muslim population in the world. [….] And the Muslims in my country are regular people like you and me and their religion does not come first, for them their country comes first. Let us hope it remains that way in spite of unhealthy influences from outside forces.

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    Thank God you’ve noticed, and finally gotten around to saying so.

    I suppose you’re using ‘country comes first’ for Anderson’s distinction. Really for many people of many religions, religion does come before country; it’s not just a Muslim thing.

  388. turndownobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
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    And you would be right not to do so with me. I don’t look at you as a bigot for standing up for Islam, although I look at you with a bit of disdain because you dig really deep sometimes to come up with your supporting ideas, like the comment about Christian violence and using Ireland as the example. I think the example is not valid, though, because 1) the participants in that sad situation have actually tried to work out some kind of peace between them. 2) the violence is between two Christian factions, and does not take the tone of Christianity against Islam, or any other religion for that matter. Plus the situation is rooted in nationalistic overtones, too. If you could give examples of Christian against Muslim violence, where it is not just a reaction of Christians to violence that was committed against them by Muslims, then I would be more sympathetic. Additionally, I think that your point about branding a whole religion is valid, but you base that assertion on the general use of the word “Muslims” and “they”, etc. Could it not just be understood that the qualifier “some” is what is really meant? I realize that is what commenters mean when they are making these comments. I don’t feel it necessary to have to start naming names, as in Osama bin Laden, Sayyid Qutb, Mullah Mohammed Omar, etc. That is tedious, and I refuse to do it.

  389. Notice the courageous response by this leftist to being betrayed, kicked in the teeth, and spat on by Obama. These actions by him are what? “Not helpful”. Okay fine. Lets calibrate that reaction in the range of possible responses to this wholesale betrayal by their erstwhile Messiah: is he Judas? No. We believe in separation of church and state? Is he a god that failed? No. We expected too much from him. Is he a destroyer of worlds. No, that accolade is reserved for Bush. Well then is he Bush III. No, he is a democrat, so he cannot be. Did he play fast and loose with the truth? Of course, but all politicians do. Is he a tall skinny good looking guy. Yes, Yes, YES, etc. So when your time comes and he throws you personally under the bus, the most you can say about him madam leftist is that is not helpful? In your particular case, I disagree.
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    The Condescender-in-Chief
    Posted by Bill S (Profile)
    Sunday, October 17th at 10:59AM EDT
    7 Comments

    Two years into the Obama presidency, and this kind of thing really shouldn’t be a surprise.

    Obama told the several dozen donors that he was offering them his “view from the Oval Office.” He faulted the economic downturn for Americans’ inability to “think clearly” and said the burden is on Democrats “to break through the fear and the frustration people are feeling.”

    The President believes that we are not “thinking clearly,” and that our attitudes and behavior stem from “fear and frustration”. It is one thing for Obama to think that, but it is yet another for the President of the United States to say it out loud – about his own nation’s citizens.

    But this is no surprise, is it? This is the same man who accused those who disagreed with him of being hyper-religious, violent xenophobes:

    And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

    Yes, we remember that one well, don’t we?

    A quick Google search reveals the extent of Obama’s condescension problem. Article after article document his snooty, patronizing attitudes about those around him.

    Recently, Obama even teed off on his own party.

    Whatever complaints they might have about climate change or other issues, Obama said, it is “just irresponsible” that some Democrats and progressives were lacking enthusiasm for the election.

    “If people now want to take their ball and go home that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place,” he said. “If you’re serious, now’s exactly the time that people have to step up.”

    Darcy Burner, of the leftist organization ProgressCongress.org, responded:

    “Here we have a president who over and over again said that a public option was going to be a key part of the health care plan — who then, it turns out, cut a deal to get rid of the public option. And he’s upset at the base that worked so hard to try to get a meaningful health care bill,” she said.

    “The least he could do is acknowledge that progressives have legitimate concerns. Instead he’s condescending. It’s not helpful.”

    It IS rather amusing to see the tables turned on them. Yet, Obama’s condescension towards his own ilk is not a new thing either. The Huffington Post noted this attitude last year. The conclusion of John Knefel’s article states:

    And what these recent polls are showing is that if Obama continues to treat those who mobilized en masse to work for his election with scorn, derision, and disrespect, he can, and should, expect nothing but the same in return.

    A prescient statement, considering how most pre-election polling indicates an apparent abandonment of support for Obama’s agenda by pretty much all but the most hard-core leftists. Victor Davis Hanson spots this as well, and notes:

    But polls suggest that these clueless and unappreciative Americans apparently believe that an elite education does not ensure their officials can balance a budget, pay their own taxes or speak candidly.

    What an outrageous “How dare they!” thought.

    Obama’s attitude undoubtedly originates from the bowels of liberal/leftist thought and his sheltered past as university academic wonk and community organizer. Elitist liberals believe they know better than we do about how we should think and act. From health-care legislation that removes choice, to limits on what foods we can eat and beverages we can drink, to motorcycle helmet laws and beyond, the leftist philosophy is to remove our ability to think for ourselves and turn it over to the State. Their assumption is that we not capable of making our own decisions, and the desire to do so is met with disdain and condescension. In his piece, Hanson also observes:

    When America votes for a liberal candidate, it is redeemed by the left as intelligent – and derided as dense when it does not. We were told not to worry that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner did not pay all his income taxes since we were lucky to have someone so well-educated.

    Obama’s tendency to be insultingly dismissive of those who disagree with him ultimately indicates a fundamental lack of perception of what’s going on in the United States. He is like the child who covers his ears, closes his eyes, and chants “I CAN’T HEAR YOU… I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!” It is a pathological case of denial. As one of my distinguished colleagues notes, “he has never really considered the possibility that Americans aren’t actually liberals.”

    I believe he may finally see this on November 2nd.

  390. turndownobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

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    Thank God you’ve noticed, and finally gotten around to saying so.

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    Oh, fuck you! What I know about my country and whether I choose to share with idiots like you has never been the problem.

  391. Mrs. Smith
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
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    Thank you, Mrs. Smith. I’m the typo birthday boy King today. 🙂

    I’m off for now. Have a good day.

  392. turndownobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 11:59 am
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    No, I’m not even going there. Employees are subject to private sector policy if they want to keep their jobs as anyone would. Clothing is not a protected Right under the Constitution.

  393. pm317
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
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    Ooooh! I have found most people of Indian descent to be such passive people. You must be mad, but I understand because I think that I would have taken turndownobama’s comment the same way as presented. Have a good day.

  394. Mrs. Smith 12:22 pm: In reaction to my “A mere 40 years ago, people with black skin were being lynched in Alabama, but not in New Jersey.”

    “This is why I rarely engage you in a quantitative discussion because you choose to sum up your treatises for prosaic effect rather than substantiated fact.”

    Sorry, you lost me here. Indeed, if you want a quantitative discussion of the number of lynchings in Alabama with respect to the number in New Jersey, one of us would have to do some research. But the fact is “substantiated”: “uppity niggers” were still being lynched in the deep South in 1970, not because they were apostates or anything fancy like that, but just because they had black skin and seemed to threaten the status quo. I mean, you can rummage through the empty skulls of KKK members and maybe find out why they did these things, but my point is that those blacks were not killed for religious reasons but by racial bigots, and for no known reason other than the color of their skin.

    It is telling that this era coincided with the rise of the Black Muslim movement. One thing that seems to be universal in Islam is that it is totally devoid of racism.

  395. Darcy Burner, of the leftist organization ProgressCongress.org/
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    This individual ran against Congressman Dave Riechart (D-Wa) and lost twice as I recall. So now she has migrated into a lobbying group. Reichard was formerly a country sheriff and was credited with capturing the Green River killer. He fell through his ass on Cap and Trade, and many people have not forgiven him for that. I have not followed his race, but I suspect he will win because it is a safe district with an average income higher than the mean, but not so high as to create delusional thinking–like Pelosi’s district.

  396. Just heard heard on FoxNews that neither Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorina who were indorsed by Sarah Palin and won their nomination because of Sarah, now will not appear with Sarah because independents don’t like Sarah.

    What kind of BS is that. It’s the indy’s that like Sarah…I’ve noticed since Sarah endorsed and helped O’Donnell, Karl Rove is pist off and now they are dumping Sarah. Why in the world would the two Calif. candidates not want to appear with Sarah. She was in Calif. and had huge crowds….something stinks in this!

  397. My belief about Islam is based on the belief itself, and only SOME of the adherents.

    [[ But we can’t judge ‘the belief itself’ — and certainly not based on SOME of its adherents. ]]

    I am disheartened that even one Muslim danced in the street,

    [[ Then you should be disheartened at every group in the world, because at least one person in each group has sometimes celebrated something most of us agree is bad. ]]

    You can deny that it is the goal of Islam to dominate the world, but I see it differently. It’s my belief that this is what Islam is striving to accomplish.

    [[ ‘Islam’ ia a loose group of people spread throughout the world. They are not all striving to accomplish anything. That is like saying that ‘Judaism’ wants to dominate the world or something. ]]

    something foreign that has a stated goal (at least in some quarters)

    [[ Again, judging a whole diverse group by the statements of ‘some quarters’ of it. ]]

  398. One more thing. I am a Roman Catholic, but I am a loyal American. Most people are loyal to their home countries before their religion, in my opinion. It’s in countries that mix religion with politics, where religion is the political force within that country, where I would agree that religion is then supreme over national identity, or that the two are so intertwined that they cannot be differentiated.

    Bye.

  399. I do, however, understand your objection that this anti-Islam thing is a bit off-topic for election season.

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    That’s why I post on it only in response to others’ posts.

  400. turndownobama
    October 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
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    Of course it is “some” of the people, not all.

    The following is from Jihad Watch.

    Goals of Islam
    Of course, when non-Muslims lay this out, they’re “Islamophobes” — so then what is Shaikh Abdurrahman Abdul-Khaliq? Well, for one thing he is refreshingly candid. From Islamweb (thanks to Nicolei):

    The fourth reason for sending Prophet Mohammad is to establish Islam as the dominant religion above all, till the Day of Judgment. Allah said, what translated means: “He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Mohammad) with Guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that He may establish (make) it (Islam) superior over all religions. And All-Sufficient is Allah as a Witness.” [48:28] Also, “It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth to establish (make) it superior over all religions even though the Polytheists hate (it).” [9:33]
    To establish it means to make apparent its domination above all religions. Allah made this promise a reality whenever Muslims were seeking victory by being well-prepared with the right belief and material needs. Muslims dominated all the powers and religions of the world with reasoning first and then using the sword. Above mentioned are a short summary of the goals of the Message of the Prophet Mohammad.

    The following is a story from a muslim convert from Egypt. Should I not pay attention and heed to his warning, the warning of a former Muslim? I pay particular attention to what former Muslims write and say about Islam.

    An Egyptian who fled Islam and now lives under that religion’s sentence of death says the goal of global jihad simply is the takeover of the world.

    The man, who now is a pastor in the U.S. and uses the pseudonym Muhammad Kemel, recently was interviewed by Joel Richardson, co-editor of “Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out.”

    Kemel said Islamic tradition teaches that those who leave Islam should be killed, and Muhammad taught, “Whoever leaves his religion (Islam) kill him.” And while the U.S. is not governed by Islam’s Shariah religious law, many fundamentalist Muslims do not see Shariah as being limited by national boundaries.

    Kemel said the truth is that the events of Sept. 11, 2001, were the actions of those who were following the Quran closely.

    “Sadly, I heard some of our American leaders and church pastors state that Islam is a peaceful religion, and what happened on 9/11 was done by fanatic Muslims,” Kemel said. “These individuals ignore the fact that the main goal of Islam is to rule the world.”

    He said such instructions are clear in the Quran and Islam’s hadiths, or sayings that have been handed down from generation to generation.

    Muslims all over the world are working hard to achieve [the] goal of submission of the entire world to Islam. They are particularly committed to the indoctrination of youth in madrassas, special Islamic schools, particularly in Pakistan and Indonesia,” Kemel said.

    He said the goal is to have at least 40 million Muslim youths who have memorized the entire Quran.

    He said the “average peaceful Muslim and moderate western Muslim” are that way “because they have not studied the Quran.”

    “If a Muslim begins to study the Quran, understands the true religion of Islam, and what true Islam requires a true Muslim to do, he will either reject Islam or he will become a Muslim committed to violence,” Kemel said.

    Those who hijacked airplanes on 9/11 and killed thousands “are not extremists from a Quranic viewpoint; only a Western viewpoint,” he said.

    Kemel told Richardson he was born into a prominent Muslim family in Egypt and considered himself dedicated to Islam. He said he discovered his own faith in Jesus Christ simply through reading the Bible.

    Immediately, he was arrested and held for eight months in solitary confinement in jail.

    “I was given no bed to sleep on. I slept on the rough cement floor with no cover, no blanket, even through the winter. I was not even supplied with the basic necessities other prisoners were given. … Soldiers came to the cell door and threatened me with death if I would not renounce my belief in Jesus Christ. The secret police warned my family, who eventually learned that I was in prison, not to help me,” he told Richardson.

    Eventually, he was able to flee Egypt for the U.S., where he’s serving a Christian church.

    Kemel said he senses a massive conflict developing between hard-line Islam and the rest of the world.

    “It was reported by very trusted missionary sources in Algeria that 170,000 Muslims had the same dream of Jesus and many of them became Christians. … Thanks to God, sincere Muslims are rebuking the spiritual forces of darkness that are holding them captive, and that held me captive,” he said. “In addition, never witnessed in the past, many Muslim converts, despite the threats on their lives, are sharing their testimonies publicly through the media, through books such as ‘Why We Left Islam,’ YouTube and television. These are among the reasons why millions of Muslims are coming to know the Lord from many Islamic countries and nations.”

    Kemel also said on the leading edge of the Islamic aggression are individuals such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who speaks frequently about the Imam Al-Mahdi, Islam’s coming messiah figure.

    “Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is trying to use this Islamic theology to brainwash Iranian youth, to transform them into jihadists, those willing to kill in the name of Islam. By killing and creating chaos in the world, Ahmadinejad and others that hold this viewpoint believe that the coming of Imam Al-Mahdi can be hastened,” Kemel said.

    “There is a fierce war that is raging between Islam and Christianity in the spiritual realm and this conflict has become more and more evident on the earth,” Kemel said. “I believe we will see a dramatic clash between Islam and most of the world sometime in the future, but that the power of Islam will ultimately fail. Jesus Christ and his church will be victorious.”

    Richardson joined fellow Islamic expert Susan Crimp to create “Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out.”

    It includes gripping personal accounts of men and women who risked their lives by abandoning the Quran and talking about it at the risk of their own lives.

  401. At a Saturday-evening fundraiser held in the home of a wealthy Massachusetts hospital executive, President Obama suggested Democrats are having difficulties in midterm campaigning because Americans simply aren’t thinking clearly. Seeking to explain his party’s troubles, the president focused not on controversial legislation like national health care and the stimulus but on evolutionary psychology. “Part of the reason that our politics seems so tough right now, and facts and science and argument do not seem to be winning the day all the time, is because we’re hard-wired not to always think clearly when we’re scared,” Obama told the assembled Democrats, who paid $15,200 a person to attend. “And the country is scared.” To “break through the fear and the frustration that people are feeling right now,” Obama told the crowd, will require high-end donors not just to “write checks” but also to “lift up people’s spirits and make sure that they’re not reacting just to fear.”
    It’s not the first time Obama has ventured into psychology to explain the public’s resistance to Democratic policies. In a now-infamous April 2008 speech to a similarly posh fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama discussed Pennsylvanians who had seen their standard of living decline in recent years by saying: “It’s not surprising then they get bitter, t