Mistake In ’08, Part VI – The Republicans React

The two most important individual elections this cycle are races which test the long-term theories and strategies of both major political parties. In earlier Mistake In ’08 installments (see HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE) we have outlined the massive historical mistake the Democratic establishment inflicted on the now dead party of FDR/Hillary Clinton by gifting Barack Obama the nomination. The Mistake in ’08 is coming home to roost this November.

The crackpot theories espoused by “strategists” such as Ruy Teixeira assured the Democratic establishment that if Barack Obama became the 2008 Democratic nominee there would be an endless vista of Democratic control of Congress and the White House for generations unto generations. What we call the Obama “situation comedy” demographic strategy was the future, according to these crackpot theories that have so destroyed the party of FDR/Hillary Clinton.

Instead of endless victories and a “cemented” and expanded Democratic majority in 2010, Obama has led the party to an electoral Waterloo. Not only will Republicans expand, if not cement their majority in 2010, they will do so in a post census redistricting year.

The obvious mistake that the massive “creative class” brains made when they created the Obama monster in a Chicago laboratory was that Republicans would remain static in their strategies and candidates. The stupidity was to think that Republicans would go to sleep and stick to an outdated playbook. Strategists such as Teixeira managed to persuade the gullible “leadership” that even though White Americans would remain a potent electoral force these White Americans could be ignored if they were “lunch bucket Joe and Jane”. In other words, the White Working Class would be ignored and instead wealthy white liberals and their kids would be the only ones invited to participate in the New America.

The additional stupidity from the “creative class” brains was that the Democratic base could be taken for granted. After all, reasoned these brains, by definition the base is the base. The base could be ignored and led by the nose. Sound familiar Democratic progressives? Instead of nurturing the base and courting the base in order to keep the base – arrogance ruled arrogantly.

So which races are the two most important races this election cycle? Think Russ Feingold in Wisconsin and Marco Rubio in Florida.

First Marco Rubio:

Marco Rubio poses the greatest threat to Obama Dimocrats in this and future election cycles. If current polling is to be believed Marco Rubio is well on his way to be the next senator from Florida. The only question unanswered regarding Rubio is when he will be part of a national Republican ticket. Will Rubio be the Republican presidential or vice presidential nominee in 2012 or in 2016, or later?

At 39 years of age, Marco Rubio already has more experience than Barack Obama when he inflicted himself on the nation. Rubio was elected to the Florida House of Representatives and eventually became the Speaker of the Florida House. If Obama Dimocrats want to play identity politics, Republicans will play with gusto and with a candidate who is actually qualified for higher office.

Latinos comprise a large minority and a rapidly growing minority – already larger than African-Americans in population. Marco Rubio can appeal, in Spanish if necessary, to Latino voters. To say that Obama Dimocrats lack a Latino superstar is an understatement. The last supposed Latino “superstar” was Bill Richardson who is a faded star at best. Other than Marco Rubio there is no Latino political superstar. [Representative Luis Gutierrez, a candidate along with Rahm Emanuel for Chicago mayor, cannot by any stretch be called a Latino “superstar” although he is the best known Obama Latino Dimocrat and a big annoyance for Rahm Emanuel.]

That Obama Dimocrats and Obama chose to make Latinos a marquee issue even though the only Latino superstar is a Republican speaks to a level of stupidity among the “creative class” hard to quantify. Politico states the obvious:

“The prospect of this ad on a national Republican campaign has to scare Democrats, who depended heavily on a Hispanic swing-vote in 2008.”



Unwritten by Politico is the prospect and impact of that advertisement broadcast on various Spanish language media in support of Presidential or Vice Presidential nominee Marco Rubio. How would Obama Dimocrats counter such a candidacy – with low level Latino functionaries at the OD DNC or with Latino movie or singing stars? Certainly Obama Dimocrats could not produce a powerhouse Latino Dimocrat to counter Rubio because there is no powerhouse Latino Dimocrat.

Latinos, though not included as legacy members in the Obama situation comedy Dimocratic Party, were still counted on to produce votes for Obama. But Latinos are, like every racial/ethnic group, comprised of dumb and smart people. And the smart Latinos are drifting away:

“Democrats have tried wooing Hispanic voters all year long, and thought they had a golden opportunity in April when Arizona passed a tough immigration-enforcement law. Barack Obama leaped at the chance to hammer Republicans on immigration reform, spending more time in April and May talking about Arizona’s law than he did about the Gulf oil-spill crisis. Handwringers in the GOP moaned that Arizona would make it more difficult to attract Hispanic voters whose inclination towards free market economics and pro-life sensibilities would make them a natural constituency for Republicans, or at the least a competitive one. [snip]

Republicans mainly held firm in their support for Arizona’s new law, and for good reason; it’s been tremendously popular in almost every state. Obama stopped talking about it during the summer after it became clear that he had lost his grip on the issue, and that people cared more about the economy than anything else. [snip]

Hispanic voters, like everyone else, have to make a living and pay their bills. While immigration reform might be more important to them as a bloc than it is to other voting blocs, it seems not to have crossed Gallup’s mind that immigration reform doesn’t impact them directly — since, as voters, they’re already here, most of them by birth. As the economy soured over the summer, the benefit of the doubt given by these voters dissipated at the same time. [snip]

If the disillusionment seen in these numbers resulted from a lack of attention to immigration reform, the erosion would have taken place in April or May, especially since Obama and Congressional Democrats had a perfect opportunity to launch the effort. And if they have moved away from Democrats on the basis of that failure, they certainly wouldn’t be moving towards Republicans, who want border and visa enforcement and a harder line on illegal immigrants.

The only explanation of the move towards the GOP is the economy and the Recovery Summer bust, which appears to have been the last straw with Hispanic voters. They want competence and fiscal responsibility, just like most other American voters.”

The “creative class” brains that scuttled the FDR/Hillary Clinton coalition for the “lean forward” (that’s MSNBC’s new slogan) hallucinations somehow did not conceive of the possibility that the Republicans would produce a Latino to lead the the socially conservative and fiscally conservative Latino population into the Republican tent. Even before Rubio is a Senator that is already happening:

“Hispanic voters’ support for Democratic candidates waned in August and September. As a result, Hispanics in September favored Democrats by a 13-point margin (51% to 38%), compared with 32-point margins in June and July. [snip]

Hispanics present a different problem for the president’s party. While they voted strongly for Obama in 2008 and were supposed to be one of the building blocks of Democratic victory in 2010, Gallup’s recent polling suggests their support for Democratic congressional candidates is slipping. This is in line with Hispanics’ dwindling approval of Obama as president, with the initial decline seen in May possibly linked to the Democrats’ failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform.”

Marco Rubio’s candidacy is the most important election this cycle because it repudiates the entire “demographic destiny” strategy of Obama and his Keystone Kops Dimocratic “strategists”.

In the same way that Marco Rubio represents a repudiation of Obama Dimocratic strategy for the future, Russ Feingold represents a refutation of Obama Dimocratic promises from the past. Feingold finds himself these days in a death spiral and the U.S. Senate according to Rasmussen is a “toss-up” when it comes to the question of who will control the chamber after the November elections.

Recall the same “creative class” blowhards declared that “progressives” would glide to reelection if they supported Obama and “Blue Dogs” would suffer defeat if they thwarted Obama. That’s not the way things have turned out:

“Loyalty to Obama Costs Democrats

DOYLESTOWN, Pa.—Rep. Patrick Murphy, a fresh-faced rising Democratic star and loyal backer of President Barack Obama’s agenda, is facing the fight of his life in a suburban Philadelphia district Mr. Obama won easily two years ago.

Across Pennsylvania, another Democrat, Rep. Jason Altmire, is competing in a district Republican John McCain took by a wide margin. Mr. Altmire is running away with it, by running away from the president.

In their contrasting fates lie broader lessons for the coming midterms: Live by the president and you could die by the president. Democrats who have been thorns in the president’s side are doing well in some of the toughest districts for their party, from Alabama to the steel belt of western Pennsylvania. But swing-district Democrats who have voted with the president in Congress are struggling, even if they’re now asserting their independence.

Mr. Altmire voted against the Obama health-care and climate-change bills. “My opponent is trying to tie me in with the speaker and with the leadership. That’s pretty difficult to do,” he said. He holds a double-digit lead.”

If Russ Feingold loses, this iconic “progressive” defeat will prove that indeed Obama is “dangerously radioactive”. If Russ Feingold loses, the idea that “Blue Dogs” who opposed Obama are endangered and will be wiped out – thereby moving the party to the left – is a bankrupt idea:

“If Democrats running against the White House prevail, the result could have a profound impact on the party’s ability to govern. More than 30 Democrats with proven records of independence are campaigning on this theme, and scores more have started trying to do so late in the game. Even if the party maintains control of the House, it almost certainly won’t have a functioning liberal majority, Democratic aides and lawmakers say. Conservative Democrats would be emboldened to go their own way, especially if many colleagues who stuck with the president lose.

Rep. Bobby Bright, an Alabama Democrat who calls himself a “fiercely independent” conservative, said the Democratic leadership largely let conservative House Democrats vote according to the dictates of their districts, a low-risk approach for a party with 77 more seats than Republicans. A loss of even a dozen would put Democratic conservatives in the catbird seat, assuming they return and remain united.”

In 2011 what will be clear is that Barack Obama is poison and destructive to those who follow him. In 2011 it will also be clear that Obama will remain a “leader” only to the suicidal and that fewer and fewer elected officials prefer suicide to survival:

“No matter what, the vote counts are going to be different,” said Mr. Altmire, who represents a district outside Pittsburgh. “You’re not going to be able to win these votes 219-212” in the House if dozens of centrists and conservatives are voting no.”

Russ Feingold will become an electoral victim of the lies of David Axelrod and Barack Obama and the delusions of the “creative class” nutroots who rejected reality for the soft pillows of their delusions:

“In Democratic caucus meetings throughout 2009 and this year, White House senior adviser David Axelrod repeatedly made the case that wavering Democrats would be tarred by Republicans with the president’s agenda whether they liked it or not. So, he argued, they might as well vote with the White House.

But resistance to the agenda is rewarding some House Democrats as the midterm elections approach. Mr. Bright from Alabama voted against the president on health care, climate change, the stimulus act and Wall Street regulation—and in one of the most conservative districts represented by any Democrat, he is strongly in the running.

Rep. Larry Kissell squeaked into office on the Obama wave in North Carolina with the backing of liberal Internet activists. Now, he is touting his votes against the health overhaul and the climate bill that would cap emissions of greenhouse gases, and is sporting a double-digit polling lead.

In a conservative Mississippi House district, Democratic Rep. Travis Childers stunned the GOP by winning a special election in May 2008. Republicans thought it was a fluke. But after opposing the Democratic health-care, climate-change and financial-regulation bills, Rep. Childers is running strongly again.

Those who oppose Obama survive and thrive. Those who support Obama lie then die:

“The pattern of opponents of the Obama agenda doing better than supporters in conservative and swing districts shows up mainly in races for the House, not the Senate. With Republicans uniformly opposing the president’s major initiatives, no Democratic senators were free to vote against them. In addition, Senate candidates face statewide constituencies whose political leanings are more diverse than those of some House districts.”

The importance of the Russ Feingold race is that he was not a particularly big supporter of Barack Obama. But he was enough of a supporter that he too will likely suffer.

Feingold might not have been a big Obama supporter but he did not separate himself from Barack Obama either. The strategy for Obama Dimocrats to win is to renounce Obama:

“Among the strongest Democratic resisters of the national party’s leadership is Rep. Walt Minnick in Idaho, who even has the backing of some tea-party activists. He is attacking his Republican opponent, Raul Labrador, as soft on illegal immigrants.

Mr. Minnick’s campaign manager, John Foster, said the congressman and his staff worked hard to establish his independent credentials early. “From Day One, we didn’t drink the Kool-Aid,” Mr. Foster said.”

David Axelrod’s promises and analysis were lies at the time he spoke them. Now the truth explodes from another Obama advisor:

“Mr. Plouffe said the president and Democratic leadership knew that issues such as health care and climate change would be “tough politics.” He added: “If there are short-term political costs to be paid, we need to pay them.”

For loyal Democrats such as Mr. Murphy, that may be an unwelcome message. He latched onto Mr. Obama early and became his 2008 Pennsylvania campaign chairman. Then he voted with the White House on all four of its highest-profile bills.

Now Mr. Murphy is in danger. [snip]

District voters “need to recognize Patrick Murphy was one of the first politicians in Pennsylvania to support Barack Obama. That may have worked out for Patrick Murphy [in 2008]. It didn’t work so well for the people of the district,” said Mr. Fitzpatrick, who narrowly lost an election to Mr. Murphy four years ago.”

In short Patrick Murphy was an Obama dupe and now he can easily be sacrificed by Barack Obama. Sucker!

It is emotionally satisfying when fools like Murphy, who drank the Kook-aid and sold the Kook-aid, lose electoral office as the voters catch on and throw them out. But the significant races are the ones that test the strategies and tactics of the two major parties.

In 2008 the Democratic Party committed suicide by cramming down the throats of the Democratic rank and file the unqualified flim-flam man from Chicago. Now the consequences of that cram down are coming home as the Republicans strategically and tactically react and the voters throw out Obama Dimocrats.

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184 thoughts on “Mistake In ’08, Part VI – The Republicans React

  1. I’m happy as a clam to be on a new post and still reading, but you totally nailed it with this comment Amin…..

    “The obvious mistake that the massive “creative class” brains made when they created the Obama monster in a Chicago laboratory was that Republicans would remain static in their strategies and candidates. The stupidity was to think that Republicans would go to sleep and stick to an outdated playbook. Strategists such as Teixeira managed to persuade the gullible “leadership” that even though White Americans would remain a potent electoral force these White Americans could be ignored if they were “lunch bucket Joe and Jane”. In other words, the White Working Class would be ignored and instead wealthy white liberals and their kids would be the only ones invited to participate in the New America.

    ——
    No freakin’ kidding!!!

    Less than a month until payback from the under-the-bus voters. I have my golden pitchfork and jack boots ready for voting the bums out.

    Back to reading this great post…

  2. Yeah, the stupid dimorats fell for Mr. Feelgood instead the tried and true Clintons.

    Admin: the rethugs could run Rubio/Col. West and get all the hispanics/blacks and if Odumbo is running all the women. Stupid demorats.

  3. Reposting:

    WOW, THIS IS GETTING EMBARRASSING…TOXIC COATTAILS

    Democrats campaigning with Groucho glasses on, saying, “I’m not a Democrat”. I guess being part of “Obama’s party” is the kiss of death.

    nytimes.com/2010/10/05/nyregion/05dems.html

    In Ads, Democratic Candidates Play Down Party
    ============================

    By DAVID W. CHEN
    Published: October 4, 2010

    One New York Democrat proclaims that he proudly opposed the federal government’s health care overhaul plan. Another one pledges, in the finest Tea Party spirit, to oppose any future financial bailouts. Still another has rolled out three Republicans in three separate commercials, all vouching for his credentials.

    But there is one word you will not hear mentioned in any of these campaign advertisements: Democrat.

    With the Democratic Party bracing for a dismal showing in the elections next month, many candidates are doing everything possible to convince voters that they are not tied at the hip to President Obama or Nancy Pelosi, the House speaker. A vulnerable Democratic incumbent in North Dakota, Representative Earl Pomeroy, praises former President George W. Bush in one of his commercials. But even Democrats in and near New York State are running away from their party.

    “In a year of insurgency and anti-incumbency, being a Republican in New York State is, for the first time in a long time, not a bad thing, because being a Democrat implies you’re an incumbent,” Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran Democratic consultant, said.

    “So why would you mention that you’re a Democrat?” Mr. Sheinkopf said. “The smarter thing to do is, don’t tell them what kind of party you are, tell them what you’re going to do.”

    It was only a year ago that Democrats like Jon S. Corzine, the former New Jersey governor, and William C. Thompson Jr., the former city comptroller who lost to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, cultivated Mr. Obama’s support and cited their Democratic bona fides in commercials.

    This year, however, Democratic candidates have made it a point to keep images of fellow Democrats out of their commercials. And even as some Democrats and their supporters start to unleash negative advertisements, they almost never disclose their party affiliation. Instead, they boast of their votes against their own party.

    On Staten Island, Representative Michael E. McMahon cites his vote against overhauling health care, as a narrator calls him “our independent voice.”

    On Long Island, Representative Timothy H. Bishop echoes constituents’ wrath toward Washington and Wall Street, stating in one commercial: “Like you, I’m sick and tired of Long Island families’ footing the bill while corporate America gets a free pass.” Mr. Bishop then vows to push for “no more bailouts.”

    In upstate New York, Representative Scott Murphy boasts that he voted against his party on one measure this year because he wanted to cut the budget deficit more.

    All three Democrats are facing stiff Republican challenges.

    Senator Kirsten E. Gillibrand, who recent polls suggest may also have a more difficult road to victory, portrays herself as a Washington outsider who believes in transparency, saying she was the first member of Congress to post her official schedule and personal finances on the Internet. Ms. Gillibrand also notes, “I took on my own party to end automatic pay raises for Congress.”

    New York’s senior senator, the Democrat Charles E. Schumer, does not implicitly criticize his own party in his four advertisements to date. Instead, he champions an issue usually dear to Republicans, tax cuts — ones that benefited commuters and families with children in college. “Chuck Schumer,” a narrator says in the advertisements. “The one New Yorkers count on, to fight for the middle class.”

    Even a Democrat in a major race who does mention his party identification, Thomas P. DiNapoli, the state comptroller, does so in cursory fashion. In a television commercial that begins by criticizing the Republican candidate, Harry Wilson, for his Wall Street background, a narrator hails Mr. DiNapoli, a former assemblyman, as an “independent voice challenging Albany dysfunction” while the words, “Democrat Tom DiNapoli” quickly scroll by.

    Republicans, in contrast, have promoted their partisan uniform.

    Carl P. Paladino, the Buffalo developer who is running for governor, embraces the Tea Party and criticizes the “liberal elites.”

    Randy Altschuler, a businessman who is running against Mr. Bishop, calls himself a conservative and in his advertisements frequently juxtaposes images of Mr. Bishop and Ms. Pelosi.

    And in central New York, Richard Hanna, a businessman, lumps images of his opponent, Representative Michael Arcuri, with Ms. Pelosi, Democrat of California, and the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada. He expresses outrage over Congressional spending and flashes his credentials as “Republican. Independent.”

    Democrats in New York may have been telegraphing their aversion to their traditional party brand this summer at their state convention in Rye Brook, when hundreds of banners heralded the arrival of the “New Democratic Party.”

    Since then, Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, the party’s standard-bearer, has assiduously eschewed any mention of the word Democrat in his advertisements for governor — unless you count those citing Mr. Cuomo’s prosecutorial efforts against Democrats and Republicans.

    Mr. Cuomo does lean, however, on J. Patrick Barrett, a former state Republican chairman, who says in an advertisement that Mr. Cuomo is the only candidate with “the ability, independence and guts to take on Albany’s special interests.”

    “Sure, I’m a Republican,” Mr. Barrett adds. “But this year it can’t be about politics. It’s about fixing what’s broken.”

  4. Reposting:

    WE KNEW OBAMA COULDN’T LEAD A COUNTRY, BUT NOT EVEN HIS DOG?

    news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20101004/pl_politico/click4676_1

    Milan: POTUS needs to train Bo
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    Patrick Gavin Patrick Gavin – Mon Oct 4, 8:27 am ET
    Cesar Milan’s major rule of dog training: Don’t let the dog lead you. And a few presidents could learn that lesson …

    Given his experience as the “Dog Whisperer,” Cesar Milan certainly knows how to keep four-legged friends in line. His major rule of dog training: Do not let the dog lead you. (See: Bo’s family vacation)

    “Americans who allow their dogs to walk them is one of his biggest peeves,” CBS’s Lesley Stahl said during her “Sunday Morning” profile of Milan. “If your dog doesn’t learn how to follow, you’ll never have a disciplined pet.”

    Well, guess who could stand to learn that lesson? A few American presidents. (See: Bo goes for a walk in the snow)

    Milan recalled pictures of President Barack Obama on Bo’s first day at the White House. (See: Bo’s first day at the White House)

    “Day one was not a good scene,” said Milan. “The dog always in front of the president of the United States.”

    Not that George W. Bush did any better.

    “He walked the dog in front,” said Milan. “Barney? Sometimes he didn’t want to go inside the helicopter!”

  5. Given his experience as the “Dog Whisperer,” Cesar Milan certainly knows how to keep four-legged friends in line. His major rule of dog training: Do not let the dog lead you. (See: Bo’s family vacation)

    “Americans who allow their dogs to walk them is one of his biggest peeves,” CBS’s Lesley Stahl said during her “Sunday Morning” profile of Milan. “If your dog doesn’t learn how to follow, you’ll never have a disciplined pet.”

    Well, guess who could stand to learn that lesson? A few American presidents. (See: Bo goes for a walk in the snow)

    Milan recalled pictures of President Barack Obama on Bo’s first day at the White House. (See: Bo’s first day at the White House)

    “Day one was not a good scene,” said Milan. “The dog always in front of the president of the United States.”

    ===================

    Bullshit. Letting the dog go ahead is the first decent Middle American thing I’ve seen Obama do!

  6. Great post, admin.

    English Translation of the Rubio ad:

    “This is Marco Rubio. My parents came to this great country and worked very hard. They made many sacrifices so I could live the American dream. For that I will be eternally grateful. Unfortunately that dream is threatened by the actions of some politicians in Washington. I’m Marco Rubio and I approve this message because I will work so that our children and grandchildren have the opportunity to live out their dreams.”

  7. Thanks for the translation Hill4TX.

    I may not agree with all of the Rethug agenda, but Rubio has a more sincere agenda and presentation that I do like.

    Richardson is Judas, Karma took care of his career.

  8. turndown-

    Bullshit. Letting the dog go ahead is the first decent Middle American thing I’ve seen Obama do!

    ——-
    😆 😆 Yup.

  9. The DNC must be paying big bucks to Whitman’s housekeeper…she will on Fox momentarily to cry some more…I bet this gal is raking in some doe and when she get deported she will live like a queen in Mexico.

  10. Barney Frank is a target too:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704847104575532390507431912.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

    It’s the kind of political year in which even Rep. Barney Frank is being forced to break a sweat.

    The Massachusetts Democrat, one of Congress’s most well-known members, usually wins re-election by steamrolling his opponents. This year, he’s campaigning aggressively to beat back Sean Bielat, an upstart Republican challenger who was five years old when Mr. Frank first won a House seat in 1980.

    It remains highly unlikely Mr. Frank will lose. He remains popular in his Boston-area district. From his perch as chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, he has surpassed his own fund-raising record. Internal polls show him with a 24-point lead with less than a month left; his opponent says the gap is closer to 10. Last time, Mr. Frank won by 43 points.

    But the national mood is hostile, and conservative groups would consider his defeat a trophy for their wall. Mr. Frank is now spending more time on his re-election instead of pumping money into the campaigns of vulnerable Democratic lawmakers, the traditional role of a party grandee. As a result, Mr. Frank’s focus on his own district will have reverberations in races across the country.

    So far this election, Mr. Frank has dipped into his personal re-election account to donate just $35,000 to 12 Democratic candidates, according to campaign-finance figures compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, a fraction of his largesse two years ago, when he gave $248,000 to 86 candidates. This year, he has given $250,000 to the campaign arm of House Democrats, compared with $650,000 in 2008.

    Mr. Frank’s opponent is a 35-year-old U.S. Marine Reserve officer and a business consultant from the Boston suburb of Brookline. His campaign has been focused on jump-starting the economy, taking on the political establishment in Washington and removing regulations he says hurt growth.

    “People here are tired of Barney Frank,” said Mr. Bielat. “He’s been here for 30 years. He’s gained a reputation for being arrogant to constituents, to the press, to whomever.”

    Mr. Bielat shocked many by raising $400,000 in September, a large number for a neophyte, and he said money has poured in this month as well.

    Last month, Mr. Frank, 70, drafted former President Bill Clinton to appear at a campaign event in Taunton, a sign of how seriously Mr. Frank takes the race.

  11. Republicans will now get another New York congressional seat (is this 8, 9 or 10?):

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/248813/remember-doug-hoffmann-kathryn-jean-lopez

    Statement by Doug Hoffman, Conservative Party Candidate for Congress (NY-23)

    Doug Hoffman said, “I entered the 23rd Congressional District race for the good of our nation and to represent the common sensebeliefs and values of the voters of upstate New York. Our nation is at a crossroads and it is imperative that on Election Day wewrest control of Congress from Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat majority.

    “It was never my intention to split the Republican vote in the 23rd District. So today, I withdraw as a candidate from this race. Under New York State Election Law my name cannot be removed from the Conservative Party line on the ballot. However, I stronglyurge and request that my supporters not vote for me and certainly not vote for the Democrat or Working Families Party candidate.

    “Matt Doheny and I may have differed on some issues during the course of our primary race. Now, we must put those differences asideand do what is best for our nation. So today, I am asking all my supporters to cast their vote for Matt Doheny on Election Day,November 2nd.

    “I want to offer heartfelt thanks to Chairman Mike Long and the New York State Conservative Party, to my staff, volunteers andsupporters who all worked tirelessly on my campaign. I’d also like to thank everyone who offered me hospitality, warmth andencouragement as I crisscrossed the Congressional District, your generosity of spirit and your belief in our nation was always aninspiration and shall never be forgotten.”

  12. confloyd
    October 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    What is this all about from Fox News??
    &&&&&

    What did Bush know prior to 9/11, and when did he know it.

    Special on 9/11 conspiracy theorists divide them into two camps:

    Those who think Bush Administration let the 9/11 attacks happen.

    Those who think Bush Administration made the 9/11 attacks happen.

  13. Well the Dow is up, soaring right now! I have always read that before the complete fall it will soar..why I don’t know.

  14. rgb44hrc, I just don’t want the finger pointed at Bill. He did more than anyone to try and kill Osama….he actually fired a missile at him…Bush let him go when they had him cornered!

  15. If is so damned simple: if you like being lied to and fucked over, then by all means vote for Obama and his congressional surrogates. Don’t do the Hamlet to be or not to be routine, don’t pontificate, don’t intellectualize, don’t rationalize, don’t pretend he is something he is not. Just do it.

  16. Buffett Talks With Hillary Clinton on Global Health, U.S. Says

    By Nicole Gaouette – Oct 5, 2010 12:19 PM MT

    Warren Buffett, the billionaire chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., met today with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to discuss the coordination of public and private work on global health issues.

    Clinton met with Buffett at the State Department in Washington, according to department spokesman Philip J. Crowley.

    “We’re looking to make sure what we are doing on the public side can be effectively coordinated with what’s done on the private side,’’ Crowley told reporters.

    The encounter came on the same day the Obama administration said it is boosting its pledge to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria to $4 billion over three years, a 38 percent increase.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-05/buffett-talks-with-hillary-clinton-on-global-health-u-s-says.html

  17. So does this all mean that you should vote for anyone as long as he/she isn’t a dim? Does this mean you vote all the repubs back? Or do you look at it on a case by case basis?

    How fickle is this system? I mean if you remember what the repubs have done in the past do you turn a blind eye or look at it as if you are trying to create a balance in the senate et al?

    I’m tired of hearing and reading about repubs acting as if they walk on water.

  18. I want to share this email I got from a co-worker…the song is “Twas the night before Xmas”. I think you all will enjoy it! LOL!

    Subject: Season’s Greetings

    
    SEASON’S GREETINGS
    T’was the night before elections
    And all through the town
    Tempers were flaring
    Emotions all up and down
    I, in my bathrobe
    With a cat in my lap
    Had cut off the TV
    tired of political clap-trap
    When all of a sudden
    There arose such a noise
    I peered out my window
    Saw Obama and his boys
    They had come for my wallet
    They wanted my pay
    To give to the others
    Who had not worked a day!

    He snatched up my money
    And quick as a wink
    Jumped back on his bandwagon
    As I gagged from the stink
    He then rallied his henchmen
    Who were pulling his cart
    I could tell they were out
    To tear my country apart!

    ‘On Fannie, on Freddie,
    On Biden and Ayers!
    On Acorn, On Pelosi’
    He screamed at the pairs!
    They took off for his cause
    And as they flew out of sight
    I heard him laugh at the nation
    Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!
    So I leave you to think
    On this one final note�
    IF YOU DON’T WANT SOCIALISM
    GET OUT AND VOTE !!!!
    GOD BLESS AMERICA , OUR ONLY HOPE!

  19. Shadowfax
    October 5th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    turndown-

    Bullshit. Letting the dog go ahead is the first decent Middle American thing I’ve seen Obama do!

    ——-
    Yup.

    ===============

    This makes up for a lot of arigula and egg whites. Except it was probably an accident, I bet he makes the dog walk behind him next time.

  20. JanH 3:46

    I feel the same way…there is no how, no way, I am voting for the creep Rick Perry….its Bill White for me, and he’s a Dem.

    I am also going to vote for the dems that helped Hillary, otherwise screw em’, I’m voting republican.

    Wish H4T and Gonzo would weigh in to help me decide!

  21. I had coffee with the arbitrator, who admires Obama just as much as I do. He reminded me of a parallel situation which occurred on the west coast waterfront in 2000. On the eve of contract expiration, the employers association hired a new leader. He was from New York and he had had some success negotiating with the Nurse’s union. And some of the Harvard people I know like Professor Jim Sebenius (3-D Negotiations) a former investment banker spoke of him in the prototypical example of a sophisticated management bargainer. In some respects he was that. But the task before him was daunting– to negotiate a more workable agreement with the International Longshoreman’s Union, which was not only militant but had a choke hold over the maritime industry since the days of Harry Bridges. Thus, it was unrealistic to believe he could create a new heaven and a new earth, but that was very much the operating assumption of the employers. The plan which Sebenius found so creative was to drive the negotiations to impasse and if the union struck to have the Bush Administration bring in national guardsmen to unload the freight. When they reached the point of impasse, the employer decided that it would lock the union out instead of striking. While the lock out was in progress, they appealed to the Administration, but all the Administration did was send in the head of FMCS who did nothing to resolve the issue. Meanwhile the union sat there and watched as the ships lined up off shore waiting for the lock out to end, knowing full well that when it did, they would have alot of overttime on their paychecks. And customers became frantic as they waited for the lockout to end so they could stock their shelves with it in response to the advertisements they had published. Eventually, the employers capitulated, and they came up with a line of argument that they got what they wanted. For these and other reasons the leader of the employer association was fired, and the members of the employer group who brought him in were subjected to heavy internal criticism. The same will be true of Obama, and the people who supported him because as Milton said success has many fathers but failure is an orphan.

  22. JanH “…Or do you look at it on a case by case basis?”

    Of course you look at it on a case basis. Unfortunately, in my case, I don’t have the luxury of being able to vote out a Dim incumbent. The district has been 70% Republican for decades.

    As a funny aside, this little burg of 7000 apolitical souls had 4 registered Dems and about 60 registered Reps in 2007, but in the runup to the Feb 5 primary in 2008, the Dem registration rolled up to almost 200 and, from what I can tell (we’re amalgamated with surrounding townships), they were mostly women who wanted to vote for Hillary in the primary.

    After the primary, starting in March ’08, the Dem registration continued to go up and we held meetings. A lot of the people were motivated enough to travel cross country and do phone-banking etc., which I couldn’t do (I just gave money). When Hillary gave up in June, the whole thing fell apart. No one was interested in o.

    Given the political history of Midland Park, I’m convinced that most of the people who signed up for the Dems in 07 and 08 were people who had always voted Republican.

    I don’t know what the status of Dem registration is now. I’m sure no one is giving money or actively supporting the local Dem candidate. I don’t even know what his or her name is.

  23. jeswezey
    October 5th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    JanH “…Or do you look at it on a case by case basis?”

    “Of course you look at it on a case basis. Unfortunately, in my case, I don’t have the luxury of being able to vote out a Dim incumbent. The district has been 70% Republican for decades.”

    —————-

    It must be so frustrating to be in this situation.

  24. #
    JanH
    October 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    So does this all mean that you should vote for anyone as long as he/she isn’t a dim? Does this mean you vote all the repubs back? Or do you look at it on a case by case basis?

    How fickle is this system? I mean if you remember what the repubs have done in the past do you turn a blind eye or look at it as if you are trying to create a balance in the senate et al?

    I’m tired of hearing and reading about repubs acting as if they walk on water.
    ——–

    I am with a 100%.

    I am not going to vote for Rethugs down the line. McCain was difficult enough, but I will vote out 98% of all incumbents. I will try to replace with mainly new folks that are more centralists and against The One.

  25. confloyd@4:05,

    I think Perry is a creep and Bill White is a liar trial lawyer who funnels appointments to his big donors and just about bankrupted Houston when he was mayor. He never met a tax or a spending program or new board or bureaucracy he didn’t like – probably because it gives him more cushy jobs to appoint his cronies to. He even wants to do a mini cap and tax program in TX. No thanks.

    I’ll likely either leave the gov slot empty or hold my nose and vote for creepy “weird hair” Perry – just because all Dems are on my sh*t list this year, and because despite his creepiness Perry hasn’t bankrupted TX.

    For me it’s a choice of two useless jerks – one of which will mostly leave us alone, and another who wants to be all in everybody’s pockets and “try out” all sorts of bright ideas he has (all of which sound crappy.) The jerk who won’t do much damage is a better choice for me in that case. Because neither of them is going to do any positive good.

  26. confloyd
    October 5th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Hey confloyd. You don’t need any help deciding. White was a really good mayor of Houston. After Ike, he got the city back up to about 75% in about 2.5 weeks, a significant accomplishment with the amount of destruction that hurricane did.

    Admin – GREAT POST. LET ALL THAT SUPPORTED THE FOOLISH AND HURTFUL POLICIES OF THIS CHIEF EXECUTIVE DIE A PAINFUL POLITICAL DEATH!!

  27. OTOH, my Dem rep, Ciro Rodriguez, is a decent blue-collar-type guy, more practical than big-spender type. I normally have no problem voting for him. He had to drop out of high school when his mother died – went to work pumping gas to help the family. He eventually had to go to two summer schools and catch up, then worked his way through college.

    He’s no elitist, and has treated the teapartiers with respect at multiple town halls and meetings. He never hides from the voters. He’s known for being very approachable, plain-spoken, and down to earth. He drives all over his huge district, into the rural areas, talking with his constituents. And he doesn’t just do it at election time, it’s how he is. He voted against TARP and the GM bailout. I’ll likely still pull the lever for Ciro, despite my disgust with the Dems.

  28. Darn, I just did a long post explaining why I WILL be likely voting for my Dem Rep, Ciro Rodriguez. He’s a good guy. A common-sense workhorse, one of the few who actually voted against bailing out the banks and GM.

  29. I am also going to vote for the dems that helped Hillary, otherwise screw em’, I’m voting republican.

    ==============

    Good for you!

  30. Admin: once again you have hit the nail on the head. Under Obama the party, and the country have ventured into cloud cuckoo land where the base no longer matters, American history values and institutions are swept aside, the media becomes the ministry of propaganda and the lion lies down with lamb. All this because we have a Messiah in our midst. The results of this flight from reality are self evident, in the loss of jobs, the refusal of businesses to put capital at risk, the mounting debt, the risk to safety nets, the collapse of our borders and the loss of face we suffer around the world, when our representatives walk out of the room and allies like Japan refuse to follow. And although the democratic leaders fancy themselves to be a bevy of Platonic Guardians, they are finding out to their chagrin that the public may be dumb but they are not stupid. They can feel their pocketbook being removed and realize they are being looted. Obama gives himself an A, but no sentient human being does.

  31. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/05/obama-clinton-ticket-on-the-table/

    (CNN) – Some called a Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton pairing the “Dream Ticket” in 2008. It didn’t happen.

    But what about 2012?

    “It’s on the table,” veteran Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward told CNN’s John King in an interview for John King, USA to air Tuesday at 7 p.m. ET. “Some of Hillary Clinton’s advisers see it as a real possibility in 2012.”

    The scenario – whereby Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would switch positions – has been bandied about by political observers for months, seen by some as a potentially savvy strategy to gin up excitement among what appears to be a depressed Democratic base.

    But it’s never been clear if the idea has been actually discussed in the White House, until now.

    “President Obama needs some of the women, Latinos, retirees that she did so well with during the [2008] primaries and, so they switch jobs, not out of the question, and the other interesting question is, Hillary Clinton could run in her own right in 2016 and be younger than Ronald Reagan when he was elected president.”

    Clinton will be 69 years old and three months in January 2017. President Ronald Reagan was just shy of his 70th birthday in January, 1980.

    “Now you talk to Hillary Clinton or her advisers and they say ‘no, no there’s not a political consideration here,'” Woodward continued. “Of course the answer is, you point out to them that her clout around the world when she goes to Europe, Asia, anywhere is in part, not just because she’s Secretary of State or because she was married to President Clinton, that people see a potential future president in her.”

    The latest politico to predict an Obama-Clinton ticket in 2012 was former Bush Chief of Staff Andy Card, who, during an interview with CNN, said the notion doesn’t surprise him.

    “That would shake things up,” said Card.

  32. Portlandon, desperation is an ugly thing to watch as it develops. The rumors of Hillary running with Obama in 2012 are as desperate and ugly as anything (not as bad as one of Michelle’s automobile parts accessorized “outfits”) we have seen these days.

    Only now do the Obama clown posse notice that Hillary did well with “women, Latinos, retirees” (we’ve been writing about this since 2007). We do hope that Obama actually takes a step other desperate presidents have considered and demurred on – and does the truly “unprecedented” and offers to dump Biden if Hillary will run with him. Hillary’s “cackle” on that day will be heard all the way to New Hampshire.

  33. Here’s the Woodward interview that should make Joe Biden feel wanted (someplace else, and notice no one is saying he should run in 2012 or 2016):

  34. “It’s on the table,” veteran Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward told CNN’s John King in an interview for John King, USA to air Tuesday at 7 p.m. ET. “Some of Hillary Clinton’s advisers see it as a real possibility in 2012.””

    NO! I will not vote for any ticket that has that pathetic loser on the ticket, Hillary or no Hillary, its a Hell NO.

  35. Yup, desperation sure is ugly to watch. Here is Greg Sargent, one of the absolute top Obama fluffer JournoListers, confessing to “the problem”:

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/independents_not_buying_dems_c.html

    The problem for Dems is that their messaging about Bush and Tea Party extremism seems specifically geared to win over independents — and it isn’t really working. A solid majority of them voted against John McCain in 2008, in what seemed like a referendum on Bush policies. But a mere two years later, a majority of them now doesn’t even believe the current GOP represents the party of Bush.

    What’s more, the constant Dem drumbeat about Tea Party nuttiness and extremism seemed designed partly to sour independent voters on the GOP. But they don’t seem to be willing to accept that message in the numbers Dems need.

    There are some bright spots in the Post poll for Dems — the generic ballot matchup is tightening, even more voters overall disapprove of the GOP than Dems, and the new GOP Pledge to America is an unknown or even a negative. But among indys, it seems clear that the core Dem messages aren’t gaining the traction Dems need — which may help explain why indys are going for the GOP candidate by a lopsided 53-33 margin.

  36. You are right Admin. It reeks of desperation. Only NOW, when they’ve run the country into the ground and already struck the Iceberg do the Obamacrats need Hillary. I hope she is offered the spot, and she tells him “Sorry Barry, This lifeboat is FULL.”

  37. Michael Crowley, another Obama fluffer smells of/the desperation:

    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019138_2019132_2023334,00.html

    Other factors have brought down the Democrats, notes Ohio State University political-science professor Herb Asher. There’s President Obama’s sagging poll numbers: “The President, I think, is a drag,” Asher says. Ohio Democrats are also dealing with the toxic publicity of a corruption scandal engulfing the party in Cuyahoga County. Fisher has been pulverized in fundraising and ad spending by Portman, has endured internal campaign disarray and is now reportedly considering mass staff layoffs to finance a final advertising push. The picture is somewhat brighter for Strickland, who only recently began an advertising campaign in earnest, says Asher.

    Democrats can stomach a defeat for Fisher, in whom they never invested high hopes. But Strickland is another story — and it’s not just Ohio Democrats riveted by the race. A governor can have a major impact on his state’s role in the presidential race, and Obama, who narrowly won Ohio in 2008, will probably need to carry the state again in 2012 if he wants a second term. At the moment, panicky Democrats are watching Ohio slip from their grasp — and wishing it was spring again.

  38. admin
    October 5th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Here’s the Woodward interview.

    Woodward”s last few words are his most important and telling.

    “and people see a future potential president in her.”
    __________________

    I take his statement as Hillary’s first unsolicited endorsement for the 2012 presidency. 🙂

  39. Using firefox when I refresh I get a message “transferring data from trc.taboolasyndication.com” Never saw this before

  40. I come here primarily for your analysis, when I am trying to make sense of what the H is going on in the minds of these two parties. I have to tell you that the reason I come here for that is because your analysis is so sharp I can almost cut my finger on it. I don’t know how you do it…get yourself into the heads of these people, but it must give you one whopping headache at the end of the day.

  41. DrudgeReport has a very funny picture of Obama. Don’t miss it.

    The caption to the picture is “Obama loses his seal”.

    Obama was speaking when the presidential seal attached to the podium could not listen to Obama’s drivel any longer and it took a suicide leap to freedom. Obama looks concerned in the picture as he looks for the escaped seal.

    Poor Obama. He’s lost his little mojo and now he’s lost his seal. When will Bo make a break for it and escape from the leash and his tormentors? 🙂

  42. I have said since McCain lost that the Republicans played the Democrats. (Rope-a-Dope) First by letting McCain lose. Hard core, conservative Republicans never liked him much anyway and many R’s just stayed home on election day letting Obama “win”

    It was a strategic move on the part of R’s leadership. Let the inexperienced kid on the block get elected and screw up while R’s regrouped and planned out their future and was ready to strike when Obama bombed. I think it was planned even down to the part about who would be in power during reapportionment.

    Democrat are notoriously poor planners, strategizers, and do not think strategically. They got bested. Right now I see only one person who could take them on 2012 and beat them, and her name is in the title of this blog.

  43. admin – I saw the video of the seal fallling down on the news. He started out by saying everything was okay, everyone in the audience already knows who he is, chuckle, chuckle. Then he looked for it. Then he made a long, drawn out joke about how someone in the back (whoever didn’t fasten it well enough) is feeling really nervous right know, even thowing in, “don’t you think?”, to the audience. It didn’t throw him, he was in an expansive mood… maybe had a little toke just before taking the stage….““““““`

  44. lorac,
    I thought it was staged. My em er uh speaking off the cuff was to pat. Also the laughter was immediate. I think shrinks say it takes three seconds for an appropriate emotional response which is way sitcoms use a laugh track. I t sets you up to laugh but take a look at any old sitcom the laugh takes place immediately same with bambi’s sign.

  45. omg. I’m Hillary’s biggest fan, and I will NOT vote for a ticket with Obama on it, and her as VP. Biden isn’t the problem, Obama is. OBAMA needs to be replaced. And it would be ridiculous to put a talented person like Hillary in the VP slot – she belongs in the presidency. Furthermore, while it might be unimportant to some, history would note her as the first female VP, but not the first woman ELECTED to the position. “It was gifted to her”…. urrgghh.

    I sure hope Hillary knows that there are so many of us who will note vote for her ticket if she is vp. Not now, not after she has the competence and workhorsewomanship and love for country that a president should have…. not after her primary win was STOLEN from her. Nope.

    I do take solace that when it was mentioned in her presence, being vp to the Fraud, she gave a small smile and shook her head “no”. So, I don’t think she wants it (I think if she had wanted it, she could have gotten it instead of SOS)

  46. McGovern endorsed Hillary early. Imo it was midway or somewhat late in the campaign before he switched to Obama. It was still early enough to make a difference, and he said something mean when he did it, though. Something about only having supported her in gratitude (for her and Bill helping him in his own campaign in the 60/70s), giving the message he really preferred Obama all along.

  47. I have said since McCain lost that the Republicans played the Democrats. (Rope-a-Dope) First by letting McCain lose. Hard core, conservative Republicans never liked him much anyway and many R’s just stayed home on election day letting Obama “win”

    It was a strategic move on the part of R’s leadership. Let the inexperienced kid on the block get elected and screw up while R’s regrouped and planned out their future and was ready to strike when Obama bombed.

    ====================

    There were other advantages for the GOP too, and for the money men who may back both parties.

  48. McGovern told the crowd of 7,000 that he supports Obama in part because he believes he has an insurmountable delegate lead and the Democratic Party needs to come together and support him. He then confessed to another reason: All four of his children and many of his 10 grandchildren are Obama supporters. “That speaks to the measure of the influence I’ve had at all,” he joked with the crowd.

    McGovern heaped praise on Obama, comparing him with Abraham Lincoln. “Illinois gave us Abraham Lincoln. That state may have now given us a second Abraham Lincoln,” he said.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/16/mcgovern-obama-is-a-second-lincoln/
    I wonder what he and his foolish children and grandchildren feel now. Fuck them all.

  49. It is good risky business to let this vp talk get too far down the road. It is one thing to hitch your wagon to a rising star and quite another to hitch your wagon to a falling one. It is good positioning if he does not run, but lousy positioning if he does. Much depends on what the money men decide. There need to be some markers along the way, and a blood bath in 2010 is an important one. To save the brand, she must separate herself from Obama in a meaningful way. Vice President to Obama aint it.

  50. “To save the brand, she must separate herself from Obama in a meaningful way. Vice President to Obama aint it.”

    Amen, wbboei!

  51. “….He then confessed to another reason: All four of his children and many of his 10 grandchildren are Obama supporters…”

    So I guess he’s also wearing those g*d awful oversized pants with the waistband down below the butt like his kids probably like, right?

  52. From Hillary’s standpoint this vp thing makes no sense whatsoever. If Mr. Obama does not listen to her as secretary of state, then would it be any different if she was vice president? And if she is counting on him to implode between now and 2012, what assurance do we have at this point that that will happen?

    This vp talk offers big media a convenient way to get off the hook. Therefore, it is tempting to feed to rumor for that reason. The danger is that she can also get trapped by it if she waits too long. Party loyalty will kick in.

    There is no reason for Hillary to lash herself to a sinking ship. The best thing to do in that case is to swim as far away from the ship as fast as possible because when it goes down, everyone aboard and everyone who is in already in the water but in close proximity will be sucked down in the undertow.

  53. Hillary has won many awards prior to the George McGovern Leadership award. This is the only one that is questionable. I think it is an oxymoron to speak of leadership and George McGovern in the same sentence.

  54. On the other hand, it would be highly appropriate to give Obama the George McGovern Leadership award for non leadership. And then we could give both of them the George Armstrong Custer Award, for getting their own troops slaughtered.

  55. wbboei
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    =============

    I’m not sure that a decisive number of voters are really that well informed or really think that way.

    It would be interesting to find out how many even know who the SOS, or the VP, is. I bet more know of Hillary as the one who fought Obama than as the one who now in theory works for him.

    I bet if Bill and Hillary decide to play it that way, aiming for 2016 (or for succession after O resigns), she could accept VP 2012, do enough campaigning to keep the GOP out (as she did in 2008) — then fade back to world travelling or charity work or promoting her supporters. Being less and less visibly O’s VP, more and more her own woman (as she is as SOS).
    For four years. Then get the visible perk — hopefully the 2016 nomination — with the great unwashed majority not really worried about her ‘past’.

  56. “Obama loses his seal”.

    ==============

    Sure he was cool about it. It gave him an excuse not to talk about anything important.

  57. wbboei
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:26 am

    From Hillary’s standpoint this vp thing makes no sense whatsoever. If Mr. Obama does not listen to her as secretary of state, then would it be any different if she was vice president?

    —————
    No kidding………..then again, Confloyd seems to think there is some reason ambulances are part of his motorcade.

    Is there something someone knows that we don’t?

    No #2 for Hillary, she needs to be our President next, nothing else.

  58. Well I have been dying to get off work so I could comment about that seal falling down….in front of all those women…I laughed my ass off. Karma is a fucking bitch! He’s losing his mojo and even his own Presidental seal is not staying in place for the Ahole. I tell you it wouldn’t been so bad had he lost his seal in front of some men’s group but losing it front of all those women is PERFECT! We must really save that video and play it on election night 2010′ because that’s when the sheat is going to start hitting the fan.

  59. Shadowfax, I think we need to think of it as positioning rather than a co-Presidency…in that respect it can be good. If the economy rebounds a little and if Hillary gets the spotlight on some debates and folks can really see her giving specifics and he’s still saying “fired up and ready to go”, folks will see the difference between daylight and dark.

    I think if she actually accepts, I might consider it OK. Maybe? IF he had any sense he would slip her in sooner than later, but he’s a freaking dumbass so I am not going to hold my breath.

  60. I ran across this tonight also and I did not know Hillary got this award…my be Catholic I was truly impressed, especially since I rank Mother Teresa and a modern day Saint.
    ———————————————————

    WASHINGTON, June 22 /U.S. Newswire/ — Today, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was honored with the Mother Teresa Award, Albania’s highest civilian honor. This rarely granted award was presented to Mrs. Clinton for her dedication to and actions performed in support of humanitarian relief efforts. Although this award includes an inscription recognizing the First Lady’s efforts in the Balkans, it also honors her work worldwide in mobilizing humanitarian aid and promoting human rights.

    “I am deeply honored to receive the Mother Teresa Award because it represents the commitment, the compassion, and the resources that have been brought together to combat the humanitarian crisis in
    ————————-
    This award ranks higher than the Nobel Peace Prize for me!

  61. Shadowfax, It’s not just me several bloggers have comments about the ambulance following whereever he goes…

    I been thinking its probably to protect the knowledge of his DNA. We just can’t have the wrong folks get a sample of it and find out “whose the real daddy”.

  62. Turndown, I think your right…if anyone can turn lemons into lemonade its Hillary Clinton…LOL!

    Goodnight folks!

  63. DAYTON, Minn. — Vice President Joe Biden has told Democrats at a Minnesota fundraiser that he’ll “strangle” members of the GOP who complain about the federal budget
    ————————————
    Well good for Joe. Arguably, he has just committed a hate crime. And if perchance he was under the influence of John Barley Corn when he put both feet in his mouth that is no defense. Under common law a man cannot take shelter in his vices.

    But consider the possibility that Joe said what he said for an entirely different reason. More specifically, it is a well known fact that Joe loves the job of Vice President about as much as gorgeous Michelle loves being First Lady, which is to say he hates it. Hardly surprising, since it is no fun to work for a sociopath.

    In that case, it may well be that Joe is simply auditioning for a new job. Not the Secretary of State job he hoped to swap with Hillary. Not the job on Wall Street like Dodd and Bayh sold out for. I mean a job as a professional wrestler with the WWF. Now why would he do that?

    Well, just think about it for a moment. Who is the owner of the WWF? Linda McMahon. And what is Linda doing right now? She is running for the Senate position in Connecticut against a Democratic candidate who is as adept as Joe is in putting his foot in his own mouth. Bluemethal–semper fi!

    Could it be that Joe is simply trying to distract Linda with a visual of himself in tights standing on the tar buckle ready to jump on top of some opponent and gouge his eyes out. Surely, the sight of Joe in the great altogether would be enough to cause Linda and the rest of us to avert our eyes so Bluementhal could win the nomination.

    In other words, this threat of stangulation could be strategic. More likely however it is just plain stupid.

  64. turndownobama
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:35 am
    ——————————
    2016 is not in the cards. If it is going to happen, it will happen in 2012. You can take that one to the bank. 2016 is what they call meta talk promoted by the bots. It is like the twelfth of never.

  65. pm317 October 6th, 2010 at 1:53 am
    h t t p://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Dems-turn-on-Obama-over-Iraq_-Afghanistan_-Gitmo-1121526-104371073.html
    ————————————————————————————————
    And overnight … suddenly, this news is broadcast throughout the USA:
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/05/taliban-afghan-government-reportedly-talks-end-war/

  66. O’Bozo must be kicking himself for asking Hillary to be SOS. Way to much exposure, and of course he underestimated her talents (sociopaths DO that). He would love to relegate her to obscurity as V.P. Note to Hillary….NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! please. I will NEVER vote for Obama as Prez. Never.

  67. “Obama loses his seal”.
    &&&&&&

    Funny guy said after the seal was lost, “You know me”. This implied that you didn’t need the seal to know that he is POTUS.

    But the more cynical take is, “Yeah, we know you. And THAT’s the problem”.

  68. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/05/the_molly_norris_precedent.html

    This fatwa on Molly Norris is despicable. On advice from FBI, she has gone into hiding, taken a new identity, I suppose. Where is the outrage? People are fucking satisfied with a meditation room and a swimming pool from the Muslims. Talk about low expectations. If they (unnamed people) come back with a response saying this Molly Norris thing is a no biggie, fucking shame on them.

  69. More from the rcp article above: Can’t we get their Cordoba Imam to say something like this?

    In response[to the fatwa]: Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who plans to build an Islamic center at the edge of Ground Zero, issued his own fatwa condemning al-Awlaki. “I am asking every Muslim in America to show solidarity with Molly!” he declared. President Obama, who championed the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious freedom for Rauf, told reporters: “Freedom of speech also is guaranteed by the First Amendment, and my administration intends to do whatever it takes to defend it.” Joe Klein at Time and Peter Beinart at the Daily Beast quickly launched a “Molly Norris Defense Fund,” collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from artists, journalists, novelists, and Hollywood stars. The ACLU, Human Rights Watch, and the U.N. swung into action.

    The paragraph above, of course, is pure fantasy. The truth: The saga of Molly Norris has elicited hardly any notice from political leaders, elite journalists, and celebrities. Nor has it stirred to action those who claim to representAmerica’s Islamic community. Nor have I seen anything from Human Rights Watch . The ACLU is actually defending al-Awlaki. At the U.N., Muslim-majority countries are pushing to ban criticism of Islam under international law.

  70. Woodward should know better than this. Hillary as an heir apparent to Obama in 2016? Oh that is right he is part of big media. It is in their interest to promote this narrative because it gets them off the hook and prevents a challenge to their christ child in 2012. I understand that there was indeed inside talk about this possibility. There had to be. Perhaps an inquiry was made, it was rejected, so the rumor which probably was initiated by the White House to reinvigorate their unity theme needed to be scotched. And despite the fact that everyone from Patraeus on down recognizes Axelrod for what he is namely a pathological liar, in this instance he just happened to tell the truth. The bottom line is Hillary is too smart and too much of a patriot be part of the Obama ticket. It is ten degrees of separation closer to a sociopath. She has been in the game long enough to know what an ice berg looks like, what steady bearing decreasing range means, and the political perils of being second officer on the Titanic. It is not the way to become captain of your own ship in the future.

    Axelrod, WH deny Hillary-for-Biden swap in 2012

    October 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

    You knew it was too good to last:

    A tantalizing notion has gained steam around Washington in recent months: President Obama will toss Vice President Biden off the ticket in 2012 and replace him with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    The most recent perpetrator of the idea was Bob Woodward, who said in a CNN interview Tuesday that the possibility is “on the table.” The logic, according to Woodward and many others – mainly pundits – is that Obama could energize the Democratic Party in 2012 and install an heir apparent for 2016 if he engineered a job swap between Biden and Clinton, thereby making the most of his former rival’s stratospheric approval ratings.

    But there’s a problem with this scenario: Despite all the chatter, no one has offered any evidence to suggest it’s true. The White House, not surprisingly, flat-out denies it.

    “There’s absolutely nothing to it,” senior adviser David Axelrod said Tuesday night. “The president is blessed to have a spectacular vice president and an outstanding secretary of state. They’re both doing great work, and he wants to keep them on the job.”

    Actually, anyone who has listened to these kinds of rumors for the last 20 years knows that they’re always more about selling papers than serious analysis. Supposedly, George H. W. Bush was going to dump Dan Quayle to revive his flagging re-election fortunes, but didn’t. George W. Bush was going to have Dick Cheney claim health problems to dump him for Condoleezza Rice, a rumor that persisted all the way to the 2004 convention — and at the convention. Neither turned out to be true, and Bush 43 won re-election anyway over John Kerry.

    The truth is that few people vote for the Vice-President in any election. The vote is almost entirely about the top of the ticket. There is no upside to dumping a running mate, and plenty of downside. Dumping a sitting VP is such an admission of failure that it has been decades since any President has been tempted to do it. FDR was the last to actually do it, dumping John Nance Gardner — the man who famously said that the office wasn’t worth “a bucket of warm spit” — for Henry Wallace in the 1940 election, and then dumping Wallace for Harry Truman in 1944. Spiro Agnew resigned in office in 1973, but only after Richard Nixon’s re-election and only to avoid getting impeached on matters entirely unrelated to Nixon’s Watergate woes.

    Joe Biden may be a joke, but he’s Barack Obama’s joke now. Besides, as a court jester, Biden is rather useful to Obama, as the Washington Examiner points out:

    For many Democrats, Biden’s gaffe-prone, lovable-goof routine is a welcome contrast to Obama, whose remote, professorial airs the administration is struggling to counter with backyard and family-style campaign events.

    “Everybody kind of accuses Obama of being too cerebral … and lacking empathy,” said Chris Reardon, a University of New Hampshire political scientist and pollster.

    No one will accuse Biden of being too cerebral. He makes more of an emotional connection than Obama does, but Biden is useful in other ways, as he proved the last few months. Biden can push ridiculous spin campaigns like “Recovery Summer” while the economy stagnates, and the blowback mainly misses Obama himself. Hillary Clinton is too smart to put herself in that position, and so her usefulness to Obama would be limited.

    Update: Chris Renner reminds me that Gerald Ford “dumped” his VP in 1976, but I plead the excuse that Ford didn’t win his office through election, either. Still, he changed from Nelson Rockefeller to Bob Dole for his 1976 bid. As I recall, Rockefeller didn’t want to run for the office, refusing to join Ford in that election.

  71. rgb44hrc
    October 6th, 2010 at 10:00 am
    __________________

    Notice Obama wasn’t content to leave it as a joke.
    He needed to assign blame: “someone in back is really nervous right now..”

    Really! Obama must be a joy to work for. His staff worrying everyday when is he going to point the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate at THEM?

    Was it ever made public who sent Rahm the dead fish as a going away present? hahaha!

  72. Oh, I bet Brenda would be tickled if she were the author of the book Manchurian Candidate and owner of the sold movie rights…

    What I meant to write was her book is entitled “Manchurian President”… almost the same. I can only hope Brenda is in negotiations for the screenplay rights… Prediction? I dunno… but the thought it uncanny..

    Fingers crossed for you Brenda…

  73. Roberta
    October 5th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
    ————-

    You see this is what I have been talking about. The Republicans manipulated and helped get bambi into power. Did they even think what a disaster it would be to the people? Did they even care?

    Both parties are self-serving and as undemocratic as they come.

  74. Mrs. Smith
    October 6th, 2010 at 8:48 am
    JanH-

    An in depth article from RBO about the Peace Talks. (from our friend Brenda):

    Klein: Palestinian state within two months? White House plans intensive round of negotiations.
    ———————-

    “PA officials, meanwhile, said the U.S. has been negotiating the borders of a future Palestinian state that would see Israel eventually withdraw from most of the West Bank and some areas of eastern Jerusalem with the exception of the three blocs.”

    ———————-

    I will never trust the democrats again. What will it take for the U.S. to butt out of something that is none of their business once and for all? So offering more security is supposed to mean something to Israel as long as they cut up Jerusalem, the holy city, to do it?

    It seems to me that the Palestinians and Arab allies gain everything and give up very little. Makes me sick to my stomach.

  75. Admin:

    Could you pass this information along to the right people, please?

    In reading Brenda Eliot’s Manchurian Blog, it seems AMAZON is trying to suppress distribution of the sale of her book after it first sold out.

    an excerpt:

    “Publishers Weekly includes Manchurian President on its Fall 2010 Audio Listings.

    Unfortunately, Amazon.com is showing a long delay in filling orders on any alternative media forms other than its own Kindle ebook and Audible downloadable version.

    Fortunately, Blackstone Audio, which published The Manchurian President in audio formats, released on July 5, including the Audible version, has copies immediately available in CD (9), MP3CD, and on tapes (8). You can even listen to a sample of the reading by Sean Runette, an audio book award winner.

    RBO also discovered another book review, dated June 13, at the Kansas City Conservative Examiner: “Best-seller The Manchurian President has a Kansas City connection.”

    Just in case the Obots are expecting (hoping) Manchurian will disappear (that’s their plan for all things unpleasant, you know — ignore it and it’ll go away), it’s not happening. It’s still in the top 15 of Amazon’s Best Sellers for Nonfiction Politics and in the top 3 in three other categories.

    Plus bookseller Tower Books has Manchurian listed in the #1 spot in Executive Branch and listed in the #2 spot in Politics and Events on its Hardcover Top 100 list.

    Obviously, a whole lot of somebodies are reading and listening.

    07/11/2010

  76. “Today, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was honored with the Mother Teresa Award, Albania’s highest civilian honor.”

    —————
    Bravo Hillary!!!

  77. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 10:55 am
    _________________________________

    I take it for granted the WH negotiations is a subliminal attempt at undermining Secretary Clinton’s work on the Peace process. Jan. I’m sure she is in direct contact with Bibi and this news is no surprise to them. They expected something forthcoming in the way of gumming up the process as much as they can. Cooler heads always prevail.

  78. pm317
    October 6th, 2010 at 10:07 am
    ========================================

    The religion of peace at your service.

  79. Mrs. Smith,

    I read somewhere yesterday that Bibi was trying to convince the Knesset to extend the moratorium on building for 2 more months. I really hope this isn’t the case.

  80. confloyd said:
    I think we need to think of it as positioning rather than a co-Presidency…in that respect it can be good. If the economy rebounds a little and if Hillary gets the spotlight on some debates and folks can really see her giving specifics and he’s still saying “fired up and ready to go”, folks will see the difference between daylight and dark.

    —————-

    Yes. IF she accepts, it will be because she has a good plan of how to play the position.

  81. I saw a short clip of the debate between McMahon and Blumenthal. The question posed by McMahon to Bluemental was how do you create jobs. The response by Bluemnthal was reminiscent of Obama in his debates with Hillary. He talked all around the question without ever really answering it. Whereupon McMahon came back the way Hillary did and provided a crisp, articulate respnsive answer that was easy to for the listener to gasp, in comparison her opponents meandering stream of consciousness. It was like the difference between a shotgun pattern which hits all around the target, and a rifle shot by a trained marksman which scores a bulls eve. You will be happy to know that big media declared the debate a draw. That is because they are not interested in the truth or making any attempt to report it. Rather they seek to be judge, jury and executioner of the process.

  82. Here you go, ADMIN, another confirmation and I TOLD YOU SO. Who has been warning of this happening since 2007? You have. We have. Tried to tell the idiot Dims with their Obama boob poison what would happen:

    Two pollsters bring more bad news to Democrats. A new AP poll shows that the constituency that lifted Democrats to victories in 2006 and 2008 has all but abandoned them in 2010. Working class white voters now favor Republicans by 22 points, a 11-point swing in two years:

    Desperate for jobs and cool toward President Barack Obama, working-class whites are flocking to Republicans, turning a group long wary of Democrats into an even bigger impediment to the party’s drive to keep control of Congress.

    An Associated Press-GfK poll shows whites without four-year college degrees preferring GOP candidates by twice the margin of the last two elections, when Democrats made significant gains in the House and Senate. The poll, conducted last month, found this group favoring GOP hopefuls 58 percent to 36 percent — a whopping 22 percentage-point gap.

    In 2008, when Obama won the presidency, they favored GOP congressional candidates by 11 percentage points, according to exit polls of voters. When Democrats won the House and Senate in 2006, the Republican edge was 9 percentage points. …

    Though accustomed to trailing among working-class whites, Democrats can hardly afford further erosion from a group that accounts for about 4 in 10 voters nationally. Their GOP preference is in contrast to whites with college degrees, who the AP-GfK Poll shows are split evenly between the two parties’ candidates

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101006/ap_on_el_ge/us_ap_poll_working_class_whites

  83. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    That quote is at the end of the article I posted. My impression is this… What Bibi is doing is demonstrating to the World he is willing to do ANYTHING to achieve PEACE… So that when the Pals are asked to do or give something and they say NO… they will be shamed and condemned by World Leaders and public opinion.

    I wouldn’t sell Bibi or Hillary short. They have a plan. Time will reward their patience and perseverance.

  84. Mrs. Smith,

    Thanks to you as always for bringing me down from so much frustration. For me, jbstonesfan, and many others, this process is just one of many that have meant that Israel gives up everything and the other side gains everything. And in the interim, Israel gets attacked from all sides.

    It gets a little tiring after a while.

  85. “I am deeply honored to receive the Mother Teresa Award because it represents the commitment, the compassion, and the resources that have been brought together to combat the humanitarian crisis in
    ————————-

    Hillary and Mother Teresa, the two women I admire most!

    What a wonderful award for a wonderful woman.

    Hillary 2012, 2016 and beyond!

  86. The bottom line is Hillary is too smart and too much of a patriot be part of the Obama ticket. It is ten degrees of separation closer to a sociopath. She has been in the game long enough to know what an ice berg looks like, what steady bearing decreasing range means, and the political perils of being second officer on the Titanic. It is not the way to become captain of your own ship in the future.

    =================

    If she does not accept VP, we’ve got no problem.

    If she does accept VP, then either
    1. she is not interested in becoming captain later
    2. she disagrees with your analysis
    3. she wants to be 2 (or 3) degrees higher in the line of succession
    4. other to be speculated at that time

  87. For once Axeluphisbutt is right:

    A Clinton-Biden swap ‘on the table’? Absolutely not, says Axelrod.

    A tantalizing notion has gained steam around Washington in recent months: President Obama will toss Vice President Biden off the ticket in 2012 and replace him with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    The most recent perpetrator of the idea was Bob Woodward, who said in a CNN interview Tuesday that the possibility is “on the table.” The logic, according to Woodward and many others – mainly pundits – is that Obama could energize the Democratic Party in 2012 and install an heir apparent for 2016 if he engineered a job swap between Biden and Clinton, thereby making the most of his former rival’s stratospheric approval ratings.

    But there’s a problem with this scenario: Despite all the chatter, no one has offered any evidence to suggest it’s true. The White House, not surprisingly, flat-out denies it.

    “There’s absolutely nothing to it,” senior adviser David Axelrod said Tuesday night. “The president is blessed to have a spectacular vice president and an outstanding secretary of state. They’re both doing great work, and he wants to keep them on the job.”

    Advisers to Clinton said the same, and another Obama adviser called the idea “nuts.”

    Where, then, is this fantastical rumor coming from?

    A student of the Obama-Clinton relationship could trace its roots to the summer of 2008, when Clinton supporters lobbied for Obama to pick her as his running mate and he, after considering it, declined. Then, after he chose her to be secretary of state, people in her orbit started musing aloud that she could shift into a different role down the line, although Clinton never went near that idea.

    But it wasn’t until this past summer that the Clinton-Biden swap narrative started to fully swirl. As Obama’s approval ratings sank, a variety of luminaries started promoting the idea of the ultimate “staff shakeup,” in some cases claiming to have inside knowledge that it was being discussed.

    In June, for example, Leslie H. Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, suggested that Obama appoint Clinton to replace Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates when he leaves the Pentagon next year. Then, Gelb wrote, Obama “could drop another bombshell and announce Mrs. Clinton as his vice-presidential running mate.”

    “He would wait until the last minute to see just how badly he needed her on the ticket, but the choice would have obvious advantages,” he wrote in the Wall Street Journal.

    A few days later, WSJ columnist Peggy Noonan came to a similar conclusion after declaring the Obama presidency “snakebit.”

    “Among Democrats – and others – when the talk turns to the presidency, it turns more and more to Hillary Clinton,” she wrote. ” ‘We may have made a mistake. She would have been better.’ Sooner or later the secretary of state is going to come under fairly consistent pressure to begin to consider 2012.”

  88. 2. she disagrees with your analysis
    ————————————
    You mean about 2016? I doubt it. I think she knows that 2008 was the right time, and 2012 is the last chance for the top job, for reasons we have been over. Either you agree with me or you don’t but I would bet my bottom dollar that Hillary does, because she is the most pragmatic individual I have ever seen. As Machiavelli said, and we have it in writing that he said it Turndown, there is such a difference between the way men act and the way they ought to act that whoever forsakes what is for what ought to be will surely learn something that will ruin him. And that is the difference between 2012 and 2016. The bottom line is the country needs Hillary now, if not now then two years from now, and thereafter the question will be moot. The world will be very different by then, so will the demographics. I cannot say often enough that the bots are the ones promoting 2016 and that alone should tell you something.

  89. JanH and Shadowfax, I did not know Hillary won the Mother Teresa award in 1999, but is she getting this award again???

    Last year she got some award to while Obama got the Peace Prize, Hillary should have been the one to get it, its her that is the one on the front lines doing it. I notice she gives thanks to all those folks who help her, but Obama never does…the bas%^$#!

  90. The Rethugs are selling it on Fox too:

    Polls Say ‘Go, Joe,’ Obama/Clinton in 2012

    ———
    How great would that be for the Rethugs if Obama did have Hillary as his VP pick, Obama doesn’t win re-election and Rethugs claim Hillary is washed up in a potential Presidential run because she couldn’t even help him win?

    The Rethugs hate Hillary because they know they can’t win against her with anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    For all the women that are running in the Republican election, only we have the wonderful woman on our side.

    Hillary would fight for all Americans, and many centralist Republican’s know it and would vote for her.

  91. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Mrs. Smith,

    Thanks to you as always for bringing me down from so much frustration.
    _____________________________

    Welcome, JanH-

  92. pm317
    October 6th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    =================

    Daisy said she had death threats and some other ‘notables’ said that was no biggie. Apparently Daisy’s threats were from people in NY because she was quoted as saying she was avoiding NY. Iirc 60-70% of people “in NY” oppose her project, so that’s a lot of suspects. Most of these seem to be ‘AMerican’ non-Muslims, who are not under any special security watch. So that’s a lot of people with motive, means, and opportunity.

    This ‘fatwa’ on Norris is from an ex-communicated Muslim nut on the other side of the world who is already hiding from the US military and CIA etc. He added her name to a list of several cartoonists whom he had already ‘fatwa’ed. Have any of them gone into hiding lately — and “cheerily” announced the fact in Seattle Weekly?

  93. confloyd,
    I was just responding to what you wrote about Mother Teresa award, I only see the award in 1999 when I googled it. Of course the other links about it were from the Rethugs angry that Hillary won it when she is pro-choice.

    Nothing like slamming her for everything she earns.

    I guess all the hard work she has done all over the world to help women and children with abuse and poverty means nothing to them.

  94. “Among Democrats – and others – when the talk turns to the presidency, it turns more and more to Hillary Clinton,” she wrote. ” ‘We may have made a mistake. She would have been better.’ Sooner or later the secretary of state is going to come under fairly consistent pressure to begin to consider 2012.”
    —————–
    That is the reality which that screed Eleanor Clift wants to gloss over with her spurious claim that things would be no different if Hillary were president because the Republicans would attack her. Canan’s rebuttal the other night decimated Clifts stupid argument.

  95. #
    Shadowfax
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    The Rethugs are selling it on Fox too:

    Polls Say ‘Go, Joe,’ Obama/Clinton in 2012

    ———
    How great would that be for the Rethugs if Obama did have Hillary as his VP pick, Obama doesn’t win re-election and Rethugs claim Hillary is washed up in a potential Presidential run because she couldn’t even help him win?

    The Rethugs hate Hillary because they know they can’t win against her with anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    For all the women that are running in the Republican election, only we have the wonderful woman on our side.

    Hillary would fight for all Americans, and many centralist Republican’s know it and would vote for her.
    ___________________________________________

    Republican are selling the VP spot as an actuality and worthy of discussion. When in fact, it’s nothing more than a rumor they started to control the conversation over the airwaves. This is done for nothing more than to distract and turn the conversation away from “HILLARY IN 2012”.

    I’ve NEVER met a Republican I could TRUST.

  96. I said:
    If she does not accept VP, we’ve got no problem.
    If she does accept VP, then either
    1. she is not interested in becoming captain later
    2. she disagrees with your analysis

    =============

    Personally I doubt Obama will offer and if he did I doubt she would take VP.

    *IF* he did and she did, THEN we would have those alternative explanations to consider.

  97. The world will be very different by then, so will the demographics.

    ==============

    That cuts both ways. To the casual public, Hillary has gained in stature from 2000 to Jan 2008 to May 2008 to now. At this rate of gain (and Obama’s rate of loss and the young Bots’ having 8 years to mature, and your Global Elites getting bit by Obama’s failures) … who knows?

    Yes age is the problem. But not insurmountable.

    Of course it’s all a daydream.

  98. The Rethugs are selling it on Fox too:

    Polls Say ‘Go, Joe,’ Obama/Clinton in 2012
    ———————————————
    Whose polls? If they come from that fat idiot Frank Luntz who bears a striking resemblance to a dancing panda and his faux focus groups, then I would say consider the source. If the question is would you rather have Hillary than Joe the answer is obvious. If the question is whether Hillary would strengthen an Obama ticket the answer is no because he would be on top of the ticket. If the question is would a loss of that ticket end Hillary’s chances to become president the answer is also yes. How many vice presidential candidates who lost went on the win the presidency? Can you think of any?

  99. It could be that the rethugs are really wanting Hillary in because they are actually worried about the country….

    Naaah, they don’t think like that, LOL! They want to take her down when they take him down.

    It must be hard for the rethugs to see Hillary doing all these wonderful things, knowing if she runs they’d get their asses kicked…there’s not a single rethug that could outdo her in a debate…she’d have questions they could not answer. They don’t want to tangle with her.

  100. Personally I doubt Obama will offer and if he did I doubt she would take VP.
    —————————————-
    I think they already floated a trial balloon on this. Rumors of this nature do not emerge out of thin air, even where big media is concerned. But then again, perhaps big media believes they can force this to happen, because their death grip on the political process is so powerful that they can move the players around like chess pieces. They keep their own dossiers on most political figures and are not unwilling to engage in a little blackmail to ensure a result they want. If the American People had any inkling of how corrupt they are, then they would not listen to them. NYT is a prime example.

  101. So now the uneducated white vote is going to the rethugs….Hillary had those folks by the boatload…Obama can’t even talk to those folks…someone on fox just said the southern white democratic voters thinks the democrats need to get back to the “Clinton model”….hmm, hmmm!

  102. Mrs. Smith-

    I’ve NEVER met a Republican I could TRUST.

    ——–
    Yup, the only one I trusted was my Mom…all Hell broke lose in our family when I found out she voted Republican for Raygun…….
    My dad was a Dem, they NEVER talked about politics around me. My mom was Irish, my dad was Italian…so there was a lot of intensity in our family without politics. 😆

  103. confloyd
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    ——————————-
    Rove believes Hillary will be the candidate in 2012. He has not said that, but you can be sure it is true. The moment the Democrats swept congress in 2008, Rove sent an email out to his operatives throughout the country saying: “what are we going to do about HER?” Hillary mentioned that to a group of us at a high dollar event in Seattle. It is clear from Rove’s current comments that he sees Obama sliding into oblivion. He is not alone in that assessment. Therefore he is back to the same old questionL what do we do about HER? The question then becomes as Hillary continues to collect these prizes which burnish her credentials as not just a party leader, a national leader, but a global leader, who do the Republicans have who can match that record? And are the old attacks really enough or has their power been spent over the course of a generation? This is why they grimace. And as you say, FOX is there to do their bidding. They cannot be trusted on that issue, any more than the big media networks.

  104. OMG, Rick (crackhead) Perry has issued a fatwa to the Mexican President..”YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO FIND DAVID HARTLEY”S BODY”, must be he heard his polls numbers are dropping against Bill White.

    He never does anything unless its to elevate himself…sound like anyone else we know??

  105. If a marriage between two wealthy families can be deemed a merger, then the ensuing divorce can be deemed a de-merger. There needs to be a de-merger between the Kennedy machine and the Chicago Machine. That merger was in personam and not in rem. When Teddy died the tie that bound–repayment for 1960 was severed. The Kennedy Machine, with its white Irish working class roots now belongs in the Clinton camp, once certain people are removed or step aside. The Irish understand this sort of thing.

  106. confloyd

    It could be that the rethugs are really wanting Hillary in because they are actually worried about the country….

    Naaah, they don’t think like that, LOL! They want to take her down when they take him down.

    It must be hard for the rethugs to see Hillary doing all these wonderful things, knowing if she runs they’d get their asses kicked…there’s not a single rethug that could outdo her in a debate…she’d have questions they could not answer. They don’t want to tangle with her.

    ————-
    Yup, it’s all about trying to derail Hillary again by wearing their Sunday faces.

    Barry has ‘lost his mojo’ and now Hillary is their prime target.

    Go Hillary, go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You have got the political nitwits all in a tizzy…AGAIN!

  107. OMG, Rick (crackhead) Perry has issued a fatwa to the Mexican President..”YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO FIND DAVID HARTLEY”S BODY”
    ———————
    Otherwise we will whistle up Zachary Taylor, Winfield Scott, and storm Chapultepec Castle. Rick Perry ain’t kidding around.

  108. Rove believes Hillary will be the candidate in 2012.

    Rove and Brazillenut sitting in a tree
    K-i-s-s-i-n-g
    First comes BarryBoy without a clue
    Used by both to derail you-know-who

    Rove needs to watch his back, Karma is a comin’…….

  109. #
    confloyd
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    It could be that the rethugs are really wanting Hillary in because they are actually worried about the country….

    Naaah, they don’t think like that, LOL! They want to take her down when they take him down.

    It must be hard for the rethugs to see Hillary doing all these wonderful things, knowing if she runs they’d get their asses kicked…there’s not a single rethug that could outdo her in a debate…she’d have questions they could not answer. They don’t want to tangle with her.
    __________________________

    Post of the Day Award: goes to Confloyd!

    Yes, can you see a Republican negotiating a Peace deal in the ME?

    Sure, with a caveat, give me the rights to all the undiscovered oil under the sand..

    Republicans say: The heck with ending fossil fuels and going green. Why then you might actually have a job and how would that benefit a Republican? But then, What would happen to my Oil Trust? Boo-Hoo.

  110. Last year I think Obama passed a law that made it illegal to buy farm products from your neighbor….does anyone remember that…I think it had to do with food safety or something…

    does anyone remember that??

  111. Clinton Sees ‘Self-Fulfilling Momentum’ to Middle East Talks

    By Flavia Krause-Jackson – Oct 6, 2010

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton today said there is a “self-fulfilling momentum” to sticking with the Middle East peace talks and said she is committed to trying to bridge the “significant” differences between Palestinians and Israel.

    Clinton said Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu face “hard choices” but that both leaders “want to do this.”

    “I am not troubled or deterred by armchair critics,” said Clinton, responding to a question about stalled peace talks at Fortune magazine’s Most Powerful Women conference in Washington.

    The event brought women together to discuss building business, reputation, philanthropy, mentoring and globalization. Billionaire investor Warren Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., addressed the group yesterday and President Barack Obama spoke at dinner last night.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-06/clinton-sees-self-fulfilling-momentum-to-middle-east-talks.html

  112. I’m not forcing Bill to eat tofu and I don’t want to be VP- Hillary

    Oct 6, 2010

    Is she forcing her husband to eat tofu? No.

    Did Bill cry at the wedding? Not really.

    Does she want to be vice president? Absolutely not.

    On Wednesday, Hillary Clinton graciously handled softball questions about her husband’s diet and her daughter’s wedding at Fortune magazine’s “Most Powerful Women” conference — before moving on to quash persistent rumors that she might be interested in the vice presidential slot in a second-term Obama administration.

    Ann Moore, the chairman of Time Inc., launched a Q+A session at the summit of 400 leading women in politics, business and the arts with an assessment of Bill Clinton’s successful drive to slim down ahead of his daughter Chelsea’s wedding in July.

    “He looked so trim, and he said that’s because you and Chelsea were forcing him to eat tofu!” Moore said.

    Clinton denied this, but did say that the former president — who has a history of heart problems — had sworn off red meat as part of an effort to get healthy.

    “He, in response to our urging, really embarked on what became a very successful diet but it also was good for his heart,” Clinton said. “There’s so much evidence now that you can lower your cholesterol, you can actually reverse damage to your arteries by eating plant based meals. So he’s been off of red meat,” Clinton said.

    OK. But powerful women want to know: did Bill Clinton cry as he walked Chelsea down the aisle?

    “You could tell that he was trying very hard not to cry,” Clinton told the audience. “It was a very emotional moment for all of us, but especially for Bill who was walking our only daughter down the aisle…I felt so good because he actually didn’t cry. He kept it in check until the very end.”

    The soft focus continued (”back then you had long blonde hair with a headband,” Moore mused of Clinton’s early Washington years) for several questions before zeroing in on the political story of the day: does Hillary Clinton want to swap jobs with Joe Biden and become vice president?

    Here again, the answer was a jovial no.

    “I think the vice president is doing a wonderful job. He’s a great friend of mine,” Clinton said, responding to author Bob Woodward’s assertion on CNN that a job swap was “on the table” if Obama’s approval ratings do not improve in time for the 2012 election.

    “We have a great relationship and I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on — because we have no time. We have so much to do and I think both of us are very happy doing what we’re doing,” Clinton said.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2010/10/06/im-not-forcing-bill-to-eat-tofu-and-i-dont-want-to-be-vp-hillary/

  113. If you watch Hillary speech that Jan H posted you see her saying that we need to change the law that makes it hard for people to buy feed/foodstuffs/livestock from one another. I think this was another place where she diverts from the Obama doctrine.

  114. This is the law that I am talking about…
    The standards of The Food Safety Modernization Act, HR 875

    It was passed in 09′, I think this is the one Hillary was talking about at about 11:14 to 12:30 on the video of her recieving the McGovern award.

  115. Shadowfax, The question to Nasty…is where is she getting this money, cause it sure ain’t coming from Americans….its either corporations or from foreign govts, just like in 08″.

  116. Hillary about taking Joe’s VP job-

    “We have a great relationship and I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on — because we have no time. We have so much to do and I think both of us are very happy doing what we’re doing,” Clinton said.

    I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on

    I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on

    And one more time incase Fox, Rove and other Rethugs are watching:

    I have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on

  117. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    _________________________________

    Yes, that post got it exactly right. Republicans will always try to control the dialog if they can get away with it. So therefore they will pose ridiculous questions to us to keep us occupied in heated arguments instead of working on supporting Hillary for president in 2012.

  118. I think the key word is “we just don’t have time”. She knows Obama is not going to be re-elected and she is trying to get lots done now as far as her job will allow.

    Those darn rethugs always trying to cause trouble.

  119. confloyd
    October 6th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Confloyd, you are waxing the wisest words on this board today. I hope everyone takes heed because you are dead on target with what Hillary is doing. What I read here today is :” we will have to wait for markers…” I thought you might, but we’re ready to roll. Hillary is INIT to WINIT.. if you can’t follow us then get out of our way! bradah!

  120. I wonder how many times Hillary will have to deny that she wants the vp position before anyone will believe her. In a way I feel bad for Biden.

  121. confloyd
    She’s not going to join that sinking ship!

    ———

    Nope, Hillary didn’t want the job as VP in 2008 and now he has nothing valuable to offer her.

    She knows she will have a mess to clean up after he is gone, repairing her party, fixing the dumbass fake health care he shoved though, the massive debt, the anger, the thugs in Congress and the Media. So much for one woman to fix, good thing she has the Big Dawg at her side.

  122. Big Dawg as he said the other day, he is doing what Hillary can’t, watchin out for those that voted for her…of coarse he said “honoring”.

    What is the difference..honoring or watchin out???

    When is Hillary going to take a vacation??? I don’t think she’s taken one yet, has she??? She took a couple of days off for the wedding, but no real vacation, right?

  123. #
    JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    I wonder how many times Hillary will have to deny that she wants the vp position before anyone will believe her. In a way I feel bad for Biden.
    ________________________________________

    Biden is a seasoned politician. I’m sure he saw this coming 12 months ago and has been feathering his nest elsewhere. From experience he saw the writing on the wall early on- and I bet Hillary already has asked him, where he would like to be situated when she is at the helm.
    .
    I’ve read talk of the powers that be/elites have to decide…. They decided months ago Hillary was it! The last straw or if you prefer, the turing point to Obama’s presidency was the Global Climate Summit in Copenhagen in 12/09′. This is when Obama because an embarrassment and when they voted no mo second chances.

    If I recall correctly- Hillary made a brilliant offer to the Climategate leadership/ UN… She pledged millions, if transparency of the process were guaranteed and a forensic audit of the scientists results were presented in agreement by all.

    In looking up the dates of the 09′ Climate summit. Funny enough, just yesterday it appears the Foreign Relations Committee sent Madame Secretary a letter.. (think John Kerry) They are pressuring Hillary to ram something/anything through regarding Global Warming in support of a plan they can hang their hat on that eventually could be used as an excuse to place another TAX on Americans. Oh, I’m sure Hillary will make herself available for John Kerry. He has always been a “loyal” personal friend of the Clintons. ho-hum…

    The article just posted the other day is here:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/122817-dems-press-clinton-to-fight-for-independent-climate-fund

  124. Mrs. Smith,
    How is it that your always right….I heard the whispers that there might be PEACE in Afganistan. Of coarse Fox is fighting that information with all they’ve got. Fox says these peace deals are just at the low level.

    Now you seem to know when the tide turned against Obama by the elites??? You are so wise!

  125. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    personally, I think all this obama-Clinton 2012 stuff is a tactic of the repubs.

    ==================

    Me too! At least they started it. Some fools like Noonan and Dowd may be coming along now. Certainly no one who really supported Hillary is pushing it, sfaik.

  126. THE WIDENING TURNOUT GAP

    By DICK MORRIS

    Published on TheHill.com on October 5, 2010

    Printer-Friendly Version

    As hard as pollsters try, it is almost impossible to glean a sample of actual likely voters in an off-year election. Particularly this year, it is difficult to distinguish between dutiful voters who say they are likely to vote and those who are actually going to make it to the polls. As in any off-year election, turnout matters.

    According to the latest Gallup poll, Republicans only enjoy a 3 point lead in the generic party ballot among all registered voters. But among those most likely to vote, the edge expands to 18 points (56-38). Twice as many Republicans as Democrats report themselves to be “very enthusiastic” about voting in the survey.

    Remember that Obama got about the same percentage of white votes in 2008 as Kerry won in 2004. His victory was entirely due to a big increase in black turnout (from 11 percent of the vote in 2004 to 14 percent in 2008) and in his greater popularity among Latinos. Turnout elected Obama, and turnout will defeat his congressional majority.

    The Democrats are widening the enthusiasm gap against them by running exclusively negative campaigns against their insurgent Republican rivals. The vast proportion of Democratic and allied independent-expenditure media is negative, portraying Republican congressional candidates as tax evaders, spousal abusers, mob-linked, eccentric flakes, sexual molesters and absentee officeholders (all actual charges against key GOP candidates). While these ads may chip away at the Republican vote share in the polls, they do nothing to generate a Democratic turnout.

    The Democrats are without a theme, a message or a positive reason to go vote. Negative ads are supposed to depress turnout — the last thing Democrats need. But when they come up against Republican enthusiasm, they may not do much to check the GOP rise.

    But advertising is not the central event of the 2010 elections. Mass rallies and one-on-one soliciting are the keys to the outcome. Between the Tea Party groups and Americans for Prosperity, there is a vast army of conservatives bringing the GOP message to the streets of America.

    And the Republicans are just gearing up to turn out their voters. I have collaborated with Citizens United — whose Supreme Court case so roiled the Democrats — to produce an election-themed movie titled “Battle for America” (www.battleforamericamovie.com). With Newt Gingrich, Ann Coulter and Fred Barnes, we describe how crucial are the stakes in this coming election. This film and others are spreading like wildfire through the ranks of the Tea Party groups and are being shown in tens of thousands of homes throughout the nation to the friends, families and neighbors of activists.

    Republicans realize that our entire way of life and national idea is at stake in the 2010 elections. The radicalism of the Obama agenda and the mindless complicity of House and Senate Democrats who didn’t even read the bills they were passing have left a sense that America as we know it is on the line.

    The regimented ranks of labor-union members enlisted by their leaders to turn out for Democratic candidates cannot compete with the fired-up intensity of the Republican grass roots. Democrats have gotten lazy and lethargic. The prolongation of the war in Afghanistan and the residual U.S. military presence in Iraq have sapped the left of its vitriol and undermined its faith in Obama. The new-left groups can’t gin up the enthusiasm they could in 2006 and 2008. It’s easier to attack than to defend.

    When polls show Republicans even with their Democratic opponents, the GOP will win. Undecided voters generally go against the incumbents, and the vast difference in voter enthusiasm will tilt these races to the Republican challengers.

    Prediction: The Republicans will win the Senate, capturing seats in Indiana, Arkansas, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Washington state, Illinois and Nevada. And they could prevail in New York, Connecticut, Delaware and California to boot.

    The GOP will capture the House by a goodly margin, winning upward of 60-plus seats now held by Democrats. And it could go a lot higher!

  127. Does she want to be vice president? Absolutely not.

    ===============

    So did they ask if she wanted to be president?

    😉

  128. I’ve read talk of the powers that be/elites have to decide…. They decided months ago Hillary was it!

    ===============

    Was what?

  129. “Meg Whitman was wrong when she said somebody put a gun to my head. Nobody did. I spoke out because I want people to know who Meg Whitman really is and I am glad that I did. I want to be heard,” said Nicandra Diaz Santillan, Whitman’s former housekeeper, speaking at a news conference in the office of her attorney Gloria Allred. Allred is filing a claim on her behalf seeking unpaid wages, reimbursement for expenses and other funds.
    ————————–
    This is exactly the kind of thing that gets partisan attorneys in trouble. It is not a question of somebody putting a gun at Nicanda’s head. It is more subtle than that. It is the case of an attorney convincing a vulnerable client of Hispanic origin that her cause is just, that she speaks for every Hispanic, that immigration laws are there to be broken, and if she his called to task for breaking an unjust law than she is no more culpable than Rosa Parks. This goes beyond the normal horse shedding of a witness, and becomes a form of undue influence. It cannot be reconciled with the best interests of the client which the attorney is ethically obligated to protect. I know from the personal experience what the temptations are in that situation and yet the best interests of the client must prevail.

  130. “Meg Whitman was wrong when she said somebody put a gun to my head. Nobody did. I spoke out because I want people to know who Meg Whitman really is and I am glad that I did. I want to be heard,” said Nicandra Diaz Santillan, Whitman’s former housekeeper, speaking at a news conference in the office of her attorney Gloria Allred.

    =================

    Is Fox really spreading this stuff? Why would they want to hurt Whitman?

  131. wbb

    I agree there are problems with what the attorney is doing and what’s best for her client, I think this is what Greta was saying on her show on the last thread.

    My point in posting this article is to show that at least to this point in time, Jerry Brown shouldn’t be blamed for this coming out in the pre-election news.

    Blame for knowing this situation is smack dab on those in the Whitman household for so many years, the illegal worker, and now the lawyers.

    The timing that gives me pause is when the worker told Meg she was an illegal. Just before Meg started the campaign. Sounds to me like it was well known that if there were skeletons in the closet, they should come out at that exact time so it would not come up later during the election.

    So the information was known in 2009 and many blame Brown for it coming out now. Would those folks rather it came out after the election? If so, it would not change what happened all those years, but it would not have the chance of derailing Meg’s election.

    To me, I want the truth before I vote, for better or for worse. If Brown had a part in it, I want proof and I want to know it BEFORE I vote.

    Call me a septic, but after the 2008 primary, I trust politicians as far as I can throw them. (Except Hillary)

  132. #
    JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Hillary: I Will Not Run As VP In 2012


    Thanks for that video of Hillary (as always you keep us up to date with the latest on our girl).

    I wish she had said:

    “My wanting to be VP under Obama, are you freaking kidding me?

    I won the primary and have worked my buns off as SOS while he golfed and screwed up my party.

    I don’t have enough time to go over all his mistakes, and he is the last person I would iron a shirt for!!!!”

  133. I’d like to see Brown come out defending Meg AS A PERSON but using this incident as evidence that Meg’s POLICY is unrealistic: ie her policy of wanting harsher treatment of those who hire illegals.

    Imo he should say that Meg was not at fault and is being badly treated — and that this shows employers can get in trouble by no fault of their own.

  134. For one thing, I think meme would scream blue murder if Hillary became vp.

    Secondly, I doubt very much that the dim bulbs want Hillary to be that high up in succession to potus.

    Even if this was what Hillary wanted, which she doesn’t, it really is a nonstarter.

  135. #
    turndownobama
    October 6th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    I’ve read talk of the powers that be/elites have to decide…. They decided months ago Hillary was it!

    ===============

    Was what?
    _______________________________________

    The elites choice (the Rothschilds) for dumping Obama in favor of Hillary to be president. Hillary has so impressed the elites with the respect she garners from the world leaders combined with the continued screwups coming from Obama. I would say, the clout Bill has gathered over the last five years with his Clinton Global Initiative, he can rival George Soros any time, any place, for control of any economy (if push comes to shove) through the cultivation of his many multinational partnerships with CGI.

  136. JanH
    October 6th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Hillary: I Will Not Run As VP In 2012
    _______________________

    Thanks for posting the video Jan. It dries up the republican’s attempts at driving the conversation. Will she, won’t she? How will it affect her future in politics? Can she save Obama? All the wily horse=shit we’re all sick and tired of hearing!

  137. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/06/5241735-clinton-on-vp-swap-rumor-absolutely-no-interest

    Clinton on V.P. swap rumor: ‘Absolutely no interest’

    From NBC’s Andrea Mitchell
    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dismissed rumors circulating today that President Barack Obama could be considering making her his running mate for his re-election race in 2012, saying that she has “absolutely no interest” in changing course.

    Asked about the speculation by Time Magazine CEO Ann Moore at a professional women’s conference, Clinton said that Vice President Joe Biden is doing “a wonderful job” and that she has “absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on.”

    “Both of us are very happy doing what we’re doing,” she said.

    White House senior advisor David Axelrod told NBC News this morning that any reports about Clinton replacing Biden on the ticket in 2012 are “absolute fiction.”

    *** UPDATE *** White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters Wednesday that the rumor is “absolutely not true.”

  138. Another fool asking,

    The Sweep: What went wrong for Democrats

    —–
    Good of CNN to finally report that the horse left the barn almost two years ago. Nothing like news being mixed up with fiction.

    Has the kool-aid run out finally?

  139. Barry is gonna be smoking and MO is going to rip some sleeves over Limp-blas comments:

    Limbaugh then addressed the following line to the president directly:

    “Mr. Obama, our imam-child, they have already taken their trillion dollar ball home, and they’re sitting on it, you jackass.”

    (Limbaugh’s been calling the president “Imam Obama” for several months now.)

    “Extend the tax cut to everybody, and you’ll inspire confidence,” Limbaugh argued, saying that added degree of certainty would free business to spend some of the capital they’re holding onto and hire people, “which, once upon a time, we were told, was Obama’s top priority.”

    For not getting this, “He’s a jackass. He’s an economic illiterate. He’s an economic ignoramus.”
    “And that’s being charitable,” Limbaugh said.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/10/limbaugh-calls-president-obama-a-jackass.html

    Hell has finally frozen over when I post a Limp-bla comment.

  140. I had to look this word up…

    imam = is an Islamic leadership position, often the leader of a mosque and the community.

  141. #
    Shadowfax
    October 6th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    NYC Landmarks Becoming Suicide Haven?
    Numbers Choosing To End Life From Structures On Rise

    I can smell a Depression from my front porch.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/10/05/nyc-landmarks-becoming-suicide-haven/
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    I want the Sopranos back. At least James Gandolfini and Michael Imperioli made me smile at their old world antics. If Drug peddling, Prostitution and Gambling were the hallmark vices of the Mafia. How come exorcising the Mafia from NY and NJ hasn’t made a hill of beans difference in the drug and prostitution trafficking business?

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