More Dead In Ohio

Swing state Ohio is swinging an ax. The ax is aimed at the necks of Obama Dimocrats. Reliable rumors are also swung about. The rumors are that the Obama Dimocrats realize the situation in Ohio is so bad the major Obama Dimocratic organizations which fund campaigns and provide assistance are pulling out of Ohio. Even the polling organization allied with Obama Dimocrats is considering a cessation of polling in swing state Ohio.

Before we get to the Ohio specifics consider this story which deals with the Obama Dimocrats’ strongest and most powerful allies:

“The Democrats will depend on labor unions — the shock troops of their political campaigns — to offset two new developments this election cycle: Tea Party enthusiasm and corporations’ ability to spend unlimited amounts thanks to a Supreme Court ruling.

Labor leaders, alarmed at a possible Republican takeover of one or both Houses of Congress, promise to devote a record amount of money and manpower to helping Democrats stave off disaster. But political analysts, and union leaders themselves, say that their efforts may not be enough because union members, like other important parts of the Democratic base, are not feeling particularly enthusiastic about the party — a reality that, in turn, further dampens the Democrats’ chances of holding onto their Congressional majorities.”

All the Big Labor threats against certain Obama Dimocrats, if they voted the wrong way, are now abandoned.

We have written about Big Labor chieftains not listening to their workers/employers and instead doing what they want to do in support of Barack Obama. In Massachusetts Big Labor chieftains ignored their workers/employers and spent millions to defeat Scott Brown. But the workers/employers of these Big Labor chieftains, the union rank and file, held a Tea Party and voted for Scott Brown. The same thing is sure to happen this November:

“But Charlie Cook, a nonpartisan political handicapper, questioned how successful labor’s push will be. “The question is, how effective can labor be when so many of their people are unemployed or underemployed and just not happy campers?” he said. “How effective will they be in getting people to do the hard work — to do the phone banks, the get-out-the-vote, all the heavy lifting?”

Patricia Elizondo, president of the 2,000-member Milwaukee local of the International Association of Machinists, fears just that.

“People are disappointed,” she said. “People have been unemployed for two years, and they’re unhappy that the healthcare bill was not as good as they expected. Two years ago, I had many members going door-to-door to campaign. Now they’re saying, ‘Why should I? We supported that candidate, but he didn’t follow through.’ ”

Big Labor chieftains have forgotten they represent the people who pay their salaries. The Ohio Democrats likewise have forgotten they are Democrats and prefer to be Obama Dimocrats, D minus logo included. When Governor Ted Strickland won in Ohio it was because he represented a southeastern Ohio district with many white working class voters who were suspicous of the Democratic Party. Ted Strickland assured them as Governor he would govern as a representative of the entire state. Now Ted Strickland’s entire campaign is a “support Obama” abomination. And now we have the results of that strategy for Obama Dimocrats in Ohio:

“By a 58 – 37 percent margin, likely Ohio voters want a U.S. Senator who opposes President Obama’s policies, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University survey, conducted by live interviewers, finds. And by 49 – 31 percent, voters want Republicans rather than Democrats to control the U.S. Senate.”

That’s a result for the Senate seat. In the Senate race Republican Rob Portman is ahead of Obama Dimocrat Lee Fisher by 20 points, 55-35%. Voters in Ohio disapprove of Obama 60-38%.

“It’s difficult to find any good news for Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher in these numbers. Likely voters in Ohio, as is the case nationally, are angry at the status quo and with Democrats controlling Congress and the White House. Fisher is taking it on the chin from those who are trying to send a message to the White House,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. “A Democrat who is losing among women likely voters by 8 points is a candidate in trouble.”

In the Ohio governor’s race the news is a bit better, if you consider a 17 point margin as opposed to a 20 point margin “better”.

“Republican challenger John Kasich has a 54 – 37 percent lead over Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland in the race to be Ohio’s next chief state executive, with much of his lead due to overwhelming support among independent voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll of likely voters released today. [snip]

Ohio is not an island. Clearly Kasich is benefitting from the national anti-incumbent, anti- Democratic wave which seems to be sweeping the country,” said Brown. “Ohio, which is the most important swing state in the country come presidential elections, is also a good marker for the off- year balloting. If Kasich were to lead a Republican sweep in Ohio, it would be a good indication that the Republican landslide many are predicting nationally might come to fruition.”‘

Why look to swing state Ohio? – here’s why:

“There is no debate regarding the centrality of Ohio to Democrats’ chances in the fall election. In addition to the competitive Senate and governor’s races, there are as many as six Democratic-held House seats in play — districts where Democratic incumbents need the top of the ticket to perform competitively if they want to hold their seats.

As Ohio goes, may go the entire country.”

The Obama Dimocrats response to these polls is that “the numbers… are flat out wrong“. But a tweet on Twitter caught by the Dark Lord at Ace of Spades provides a clue as to whether the numbers are indeed wrong:

“First consider PPP’s Twitter note this morning.

Seems strange saying this but really doubt we’ll poll Ohio again this cycle

PPP of course is a major Democratic polling firm. If they think there is not even a rationale for further polling in Ohio how wrong can the latest poll numbers be?

JournoLister Marc Ambinder
, always full of excuses to expel in defense of Obama Dimocrats has this to say about Ohio:

“With the past few days given over to Democratic triumphalism, the reality is that the big picture remains roughly the same for Democrats. In Ohio, it’s getting so bad for Democrats that the Democratic Governors Association, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee are actively weighing their level of commitment.

Public and private polling from the state suggests that Democrats will lose the governor’s mansion, currently held by Ted Strickland, the Senate race (for an open seat that was held by a Republican), and at least four House races (OH 01, OH 15, OH 13, OH 16). [snip]

Some Ohio Democrats think Strickland has allowed himself to be associated too much with the White House, turning this once independent-seeming guy into a prop. The federal mud might have stuck.”

The Obama Dimocrats will respond in Ohio and in every other state with the typical Obama strategy: raise money and sling mud. This strategy will not work. HWC explains:

“I don’t think American voters, in 2010, with the government robbing them blind in a rush to spend more and more and more and with a never-ending recession, give a tinker’s damn what Christine O’Donnell or any other candidate thinks about masturbation. This is another perfect example of the entrenched power in both parties and the media, throwing up a wall of chaff to distract us from “their” business.

What these idiots ought to start figuring out is that the voters don’t care who they elect as long as they send a bum home. The voters of Delaware would vote for a ham sandwich over Mike Castle this week. The Mike Castles of the world better start paying attention because it is pretty clear that the voters have not intention of putting down their baseball bats. You would have thought that a Repubican winning Ted Kennedy’s seat would have been enough of a message. Or Charlie Crist getting clobbered in Florida. Or Arlen Spector in PA. Or Bennett in Utah. But, I guess you have to keep pounding these idiots in the head. They seems to be slow learners.

Indeed they are slow learners. In Ohio Steve Driehaus “campaigns as if he were the president’s running mate.”

“It hasn’t been easy: Only a handful of black voters came to a health-care town-hall event hosted by Driehaus amid the rundown pews of a one-room Baptist church earlier this month. Attendance was so sparse that Victoria Parks, the African- American field outreach director for Driehaus, headed to another church across the street to recruit additional participants from a gospel choir practice.”

Driehaus is a slow learner. On October 17 Driehaus is importing the “dangerously radioactive” Barack Obama to campaign for him. A very slow learner indeed.

Perhaps Driehaus should consult with the cable network we boycott, MSNBC. If Obama Dimocrats are hearing bad news from “Chris O’Tingles” perhaps they should put down the Hopium and smell the Tea:

“MATTHEWS: Let me finish tonight with a question. Just where do you think this explosion of voter anger we saw last night in Delaware and have seen growing in voters in Pennsylvania, Florida, Utah, Nevada, Kentucky, Colorado and in just about every poll across the country is going to take us?

Last night, as the dust began to clear, I heard progressive glee that the anger was on the verge of burning itself out, that the victory of Christine O`Donnell in Delaware like that of Sharron Angle in Nevada, was throwing away the election. How could voters in the general election go so far as to elect one of these candidates the angry primary voters have kicked pup?

I supposed I had my eyes on something different. While others were seeing dead people, the defeated Mike Castle, who was supposed to be strong this November, I saw the strength of the flames that consumed him and will consume many others this rapidly approaching election night. I have waited all my adult life for an election in which voters have the fire to reach up and burn those who have been running the show for decades. But I didn`t know it would come from the right and center.

2010 could be the first year in modern times when being in office in Washington and part of Washington is the worst possible credential when facing voters. I don`t know how far the fire will burn. Based upon last night`s returns, I expect it has a long way to go. It could topple the House and, yes, the U.S. Senate. It could bring the defeat of people who feel even now they are not endangered. It could produce an election night spectacle of name brand politicians standing before stance supporters saying their careers are kaput.

Why is this happening? Because this economic system is failing to produce the security and opportunity people have come to expect in this country. In this middle-class country, the middle class are scared and when people are scared, they get angry. They sense a rot at the top and are ready to chop it off.

If the plan of those in power to raise a ton of cash and run nasty TV ads saying you can`t vote for this new person, that he or she is flawed — I expect the voter will say, “Are you telling me I have no choice but to vote for you? Are you saying that I, this little voter out there, dare not take a chance on someone who has not yet let me down as you have? If that is what you`re telling me, that I have no choice, well, Mr. Big Stuff, you just have to wait — stay up late election night and see what I have done.”



Chris Matthews and his ilk opened the door to the Tea Party. Matthews and the JournoListers devalued experience in order to benefit Barack Obama in 2008. Now the argument cannot be turned around in order to hurt Tea Party activists or their nominees. Obama with all his weaknesses was not vetted and given a free pass by these JournoListers.

The Nutroots and establishment manipulators of the once great Democratic Party thought they would be the vanguard of a revolution. As O’Tingles lamented, “I have waited all my adult life for an election in which voters have the fire to reach up and burn those who have been running the show for decades. But I didn’t know it would come from the right and center.”

It’s too late for those who sold out the country in order to get their precious Barack Obama. Now the working people of Ohio, not the Nutroots and Big Media, will show how hot the fires will burn.

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434 thoughts on “More Dead In Ohio

  1. This time it’s not “tin soldiers and Nixon coming”. It’s the voters, many students, this time.

    Friday night music video, OHIO:

  2. Why not a perfect triage? Give all the campaign money to Obama. Let all the congressional candidates fend for themselves. Let Obama’s friend Soros invest it in gold. Should be a fortune by 2012. Almost enough for Obama and his lovely wife to buy that seaside mansion in Hawaii that the has been thinking about when he is not thinking about jobs for Americans. It would be a nice place to retire. I hear it has a guest house large enough to accomodate the remains of his bot army. If memory serves Napoleon entered Russia with an army 5 loyal million troops and came out later with only 750,000. They called it Napoleons Retreat. If Obama does that well I shall be surprised.

  3. Admn: Dead on.

    Come November Rethugs take both the House and Senate and Big O is toast.

    He pees in his pants and look for another job

  4. But Charlie Cook, a nonpartisan political handicapper, questioned how successful labor’s push will be. “The question is, how effective can labor be when so many of their people are unemployed or underemployed and just not happy campers?” he said. “How effective will they be in getting people to do the hard work — to do the phone banks, the get-out-the-vote, all the heavy lifting?”
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    He is right. The UAW has lost half its membership in the last five years. And besides, the public perception is that the unions have gotten preferential treatment from Obama while non union people lost their jobs. How receptive do you think that will make most Americans feel when Teamsters for Obama comes knocking at their door.

  5. gonzotx
    September 17th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
    jtjames
    September 17th, 2010 at 2:36
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    I want him back too…or the better half, he always says Hillary is the smarter of the two, with that being said, I do not agree with his comments about the Tea party. I think he is afraid there wont be any Dem party for Hillary to run on. Also sad about his voting for the present HCB.

  6. It will be so Sweeeeeeeeeeettttttt if all that admin has predicted comes to pass. I cannot wait to see the dims run out of Dodge.

    BTW,

    I didn’t catch HWC’s post in the earlier thread but KUDOS! Brilliantly written!

  7. To listen to President Obama, you’d think we were in the grip of a never-ending hostage crisis.

    In sixteen speeches, statements and interviews this year, including his State of the Union address, he has decried the hostage-taking of one issue or another:

    # MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT EXTENSIONS: “So let me be clear to Mr. Boehner and everybody else: We should not hold middle-class tax cuts hostage any longer.” -Speech on the Economy, Parma, Ohio, 9/3/10

    * AID TO SMALL BUSINESS: “Simply put, holding this bill hostage is directly detrimental to our economic growth.” Statement on the Economy. -The Rose Garden. 8/30/10

    * VETERANS PROGRAMS: “…to sign advanced appropriations into law so that veterans health care will never again be held hostage to the budget battles of Washington.” -Address to Disabled Veterans of America, Atlanta, 8/2/10

    * UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS: “While a majority of Senators support taking these steps to help the American people, some are playing the same old Washington games and using their power to hold this relief hostage – a move that only ends up holding back our recovery. It doesn’t make sense.” -Weekly Address, 7/3/10

    * IMMIGRATION REFORM: Unfortunately, reform has been held hostage to political posturing and special-interest wrangling…” -and to the pervasive sentiment in Washington that tackling such a thorny and emotional issue is inherently bad politics. -Speech at American University School of International Service, 7/1/10

    * HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM: “For too long, we’ve been held hostage to an industry that jacks up premiums and drops coverage whenever they please. Those days are coming to an end.” Address to American Nurses Association, 6/16/10

    * NOMINATIONS: “The confirmation of well-qualified public servants shouldn’t be held hostage to the pet projects or grudges of a few individual senators.” State of the Union Address, 1/27/10.

    * ENERGY POLICY: “The next generation will not be held hostage to energy sources from the last century. We are not going to move backwards. We are going to move forward.” Speech at Carnegie-Mellon University, 6/2/10

    But American presidents have been using the “H”-word to make a point and pressure the opposition since long before Barack Obama.
    ________________________

    That may be so… but never used as commonly as the word ‘and’ as Obama has done over the past 20 months in as many speeches… averaging the “H” word once a month… Maybe it’s a subliminal call for HELP- Afterall, it can’t be all lollipops and roses for Hussein being trapped with happy tooth 24/7. 🙂

  8. Okay, this guy is a conservative, but I read him sometimes because he is hilariously funny with his parodies. He completely skewers the Republican establishment here. If you want to understand the tea party republicans and independents, you must read this in full. This is precisely how 99% of politicians, both R and D, come across to the average person:

    If It Is a Fight These Jacobins Want, Then It Is a Fight They Shall Have

    T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII
    Conservative Intellectual At-Large

    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2010/09/fight.html

    The Democrats had a small window, just after things started going bad with Obama, to tap into this wave of “we’re sick of being treated this way, we’re sick of being told we are stupid so just shut up and let us do what’s good for you” that the public is feeling.

    Instead, they and their pundits chose the path of ridicule, sneering, and doubling down on Obama. That chance is now gone, at least for this election season. If the vast middle starts going in DROVES to the tea party candidates, the left has no one to blame but themselves. Because no alternative other than “STFU, you don’t know what’s in your own best interest” was offered to them. You cannot force policy, not even good policy, down peoples throats. You have to respect that they have autonomy as voters, and do not have to buy what you are selling, even if you think it’s the best thing for them. The average person senses in about 30 seconds when they are being talked down to and bullied. They will rebel, every fucking time. And that’s if the policy is actually good – it’s even worse if the policy itself sucks.

    The advice I would give to all politicians and activists, both right and left, is RESPECT THE VOTERS. Don’t shove them. Don’t scam them. Don’t get snitty and on your high horse when those stupid bumpkins don’t “get it”. Persuade them. Show them concrete examples of it working. And at the end of the day, recognize that it’s still their choice whether to agree with you or not, and they have every right to that choice, even if it’s the “wrong” one..

    Bill Clinton knew this in his bones. Hillary does too. Respect the voters, ALL of them, not just those of your own ideology. It’s why Bill was the most loved Dem president in my lifetime. And until the crowd in DC and in the media figure out what Bill knew, the rage is going to continue to grow.

  9. wbboei
    September 17th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    Why not a perfect triage? Give all the campaign money to Obama. Let all the congressional candidates fend for themselves.

    This basically what they have done already. The DNC sat on its ass all year and hoarded cash, did not push back, and bamboozled the idiots in Congress saying the economy would get better this summer, and O had promised to campaign and raise cash for them after their (insert expletive here) votes against their own constituents. O left them high and dry. Besides O is going to need all that cash for legal fees.

  10. I cannot wait for election night, i work nights as an RN I’ve requested the night off, I plan on being front and center on my couch with a pizza and nice chilled bottle of wine.

  11. Admin: here is a searing indictment of Obama by the founder of Home Depot on behalf of small business. The damage Obama will do between now and 2012 will be felt by all Americans and is incalculable. That is why I hope the Republicans win congress, and have the courage to impeach him when he gives them the grounds. Republicans like Castle would find reasons not to do it, whereas Tea Party candidates will not shrink from the obligations of their oath.

    http://thepartyofknow.com/2010/09/17/bernie-marcus-on-cnbc-squawk-box/

  12. O had promised to campaign and raise cash for them after their (insert expletive here) votes against their own constituents. O left them high and dry.

    ===============

    Hasn’t that been a pattern all along, more or less?

    In summer 2008 a lot of DNC people wentfor Obama thinking he could raise more money for them than Hillary’s supporters. Then he didn’t deliver, and the DNC was in a cash pinch to pay for the Denver convention — where Obama kept rumming up the bills.

    Did he ever pay Chicago for that November election night shindig?

  13. turndownobama
    September 17th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    i don’t know about Chicago. They probably got a bunch of stuff donated – or else. But he is a deadbeat.

  14. wbboei, I watched that video and that guy really explained it well and he also said that Obama should put on a cloak (incognito) go out and find out why people hate him….in essence that is what H4T’s guy is saying too.
    Bill Clinton knows what the common man wants and needs and thats why he is the most loved democratic Potus in our lifetime….something Obama can’t understand. He was raised by intellectuals who worked for the government…that is all he understands…for the exception he knows how to milk those out of their money.

  15. Clueless to the last syllable of recorded time, our beloved big media continues to roll out the red carpet for Obama, throws garlands at his feet, and drag their collective tongues on the ground behind him in an unctuous display of fealty to the elite class which they and he are a part of. And as a dark shadow passes over the land and destroys the economic security of millions of Americans they scarcely notice. For Obama and his pals it is eat drink and be merry. And get ready for 2012. What happens to the country between now and then is Bush’s fault and a priori not his problem. . . .

    Word has it that when Obama was a child he told people that one day he would become King Obama. And indeed he has. Our media elites have had the time of their lives reliving Camelot. But big business has a decidedly different take. The do not trust him or his policies. Hence they will not put capital at risk and the jobs they are creating now are overseas. And small business is shutting down, and laying off millions of Americans as the regulations he and his academic cronies obliterate their bottom line. King Obama. Savior of the World.

    Kings do not resign when they fail. That is for commoners. Kings abdicate. King Obama needs to abdicate before he destroys the future of millions of Americans. We cannot wait two more years. If he does not resign then he must be impeached. I think it is not unlikely that it will come to that.

    Why? because he is killing the goose that lays the golden egg. And he does not know how to stop.

  16. Not sure what to make of this news, but this is the exact opposite of what I read Lisa Murkowski was going to do yesterday.
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    September 17, 2010, 7:23 pm Murkowski will Run as Write-in Candidate
    By BY THE NEW YORK TIMES

    A top Republican official in Washington said Friday that Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska has informed the party’s leadership that she intends to run as a write-in candidate for re-election despite losing the Republican nomination in the primary earlier this month.

    The official said Republican leaders were still hopeful she might change her mind, but now fully expect her to run. Ms. Murkowski is expected to make a formal announcement later on Friday in Anchorage.

    Republican officials in Washington said they did not expect her to win as a write-in, saying that polling found that she drew little support even if her name were on the ballot as a Libertarian, one of the options she had considered.

    Ms. Murkowski lost the Republican primary to Joe Miller, who was backed by Sarah Palin, a fierce rival of Ms. Murkowski. The Republican party machinery has rallied around Mr. Miller and officials had sought to dissuade Ms. Murkowski from mounting a write-in campaign.

    It is not clear how much the entrance of Ms. Murkowski will help the prospects of the Democratic nominee, Scott McAdams, mayor of Sitka.

  17. well now its time to boot Murkowski out of the republican party, she said she would abide by the election result before the primary, if she cant do that then you cant trust her on anything.

    She obviously thinks its her right to have that seat. Wellllllllllllllll nooooooooooooooo the voters have had their say and they said Bye bye.

    Strip her of her committees and throw her out if she does.

  18. nobama, What that means is their borrowing some of Soro’s voting machines and they are going to cheat in Alaska….
    The old guard is pist and they are going to get their man/woman even if it means cheating people out of their rightful vote.

  19. Not sure what to make of this news, but this is the exact opposite of what I read Lisa Murkowski was going to do yesterday.
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    This is being directed by big oil. Lisa is their agent. She shilled for BP and introduced legislation to limit their liability in the current disaster.

    I worked in Alaska before during and after the pipeline. I do not recall Lisa or her father Frank from those days so they must have come along later. Walter Hickel was the big name then and Jay Hammond.

    I am no expert, but I know big oil in Alaska well enough to know that they are scared to death of the tea party candidate. I expect they will fund not only Murkowiski but the obamacrat as well in an effort to defeat him. Sarah needs to get involved

    I have a neigbor who was an army officer under General Simon Bolivar Buckner who was in charge of the defense of Alaska in World War II. He went on to become mayor of Juneau. Although a lifelong Republican he would have voted for Hillary.

    I will see what he says about this.

  20. Admin: The video I post last night on the prior thread that shows Hillary at the convention pushing the button for New York during the convention. Hillary says that Barack Obama was selected by acclamation,and she hereby gives the New York delegates to him…

    What does that mean?? Does that mean there really wasn’t a winner, it was actually a tie?? I did not noticed that 2 years ago!

  21. I can’t believe 5 muslims tried to kill the Pope today…I wonder why the Catholics aren’t threatening to bomb the Dome of the Rock??

  22. I wonder what Michael Steele intends to do in Alaska. If he cannot support candidates who win Republican primaries, then he cannot faithfully discharge the duties of his office, and should abdicate.

  23. 5 muslims tried to kill the Pope today
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    Who cares? The only thing we care about is whether they were Mirandized, and whether the trial will be held in New York. After all, we elites have our reputations to consider, and do not want to have to endure unpleasant dinner conversations with our elite friends on the continent while we are enjoying a bottle of expensive wine. That about how it works Bloomberg?

  24. confloyd
    September 17th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
    I can’t believe 5 muslims tried to kill the Pope today…I wonder why the Catholics aren’t threatening to bomb the Dome of the Rock??

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    Any world outrage yet? Or are they being fetted in super deluxe cells?

  25. Probe in New Black Panther case

    By Jerry Markon
    Tuesday, September 14, 2010

    The Justice Department’s internal watchdog is investigating allegations that its civil rights division enforced voting laws in a racially discriminatory manner, officials said Monday.

    The review by Inspector General Glenn A. Fine is an outgrowth of the political controversy over a 2008 voter intimidation case against members of the New Black Panther Party. Some conservative lawyers, politicians and commentators have said that the civil rights division improperly narrowed that case, part of their broader allegations that the Obama Justice Department has failed to protect the civil rights of white voters.

    The department’s Office of Professional Responsibility is looking into the matter, and two Republican congressmen, Frank R. Wolf (Va.) and Lamar Smith (Tex.) asked Fine to also investigate the department’s handling of the case, according to letters the congressmen sent Fine over the summer.

    Fine, in a letter Monday to the congressmen, wrote that his office will not investigate the New Black Panther case specifically but is initiating a broader review of how the Justice Department enforces voting rights laws.

    The letter, released by both congressional offices, said the review will focus on what types of cases the civil rights division’s voting section brings and whether it enforces the law “in a non-discriminatory manner.”

    Smith said Monday he is “pleased” that Fine “has decided to take up a review of possible discriminatory practices by attorneys in the Civil Rights Division. Recent allegations of politicization within the Justice Department raise serious concerns.”

    Wolf added that the investigation is “very positive.”

    Xochitl Hinojosa, a Justice Department spokeswoman, said the department “makes enforcement decisions based on the evidence and the merits. We are committed to the evenhanded enforcement of the many statutes in the jurisdiction of the Civil Rights Division’s Voting Section.” She referred questions about the investigation to Fine’s office.

    A spokeswoman for Fine confirmed that the review is in its very early stages but would not comment further.

    The investigation presents another challenge for the Civil Rights Division, which was strained by employee departures and allegations of politicization during the Bush administration but has been stepping up enforcement. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. is a former civil rights lawyer who has vowed to make the division the department’s “crown jewel.”

    But conservatives contend that the Obama administration has itself become politicized, and they have focused their ire on the New Black Panther case. Filed weeks before the Obama administration took office, it focused on two of the party’s members who stood in front of a polling place in Philadelphia on Election Day 2008, one carrying a nightstick and identifying himself as “security.” The men were captured on video and accused of trying to discourage some people from voting.

    Conservatives took issue with the Justice Department’s decision last year to narrow the case, dropping the party and one of the men, and to focus only on the nightstick bearer. Department officials say they did not have sufficient evidence to pursue the case against the other defendants. Justice officials from the Bush administration called the decision political.

    Former Justice Department lawyer J. Christian Adams recently told the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which held a series of hearings on the matter, that he believed the case had been narrowed because some in the civil rights division were interested in protecting only minorities.

    That allegation was among those cited by Wolf and Smith in their letters to Fine, which triggered the inspector general’s review.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091306427.html

  26. JanH and Wbboei,
    Your right the master mind that thought the 9/11 massacre has to have all his rights…or the liberal elitest will threaten to bring down heaven and earth.

    They don’t care about the bombs that are continuing to drop on Israel while they are in peace talks and they don’t care about the Pope.

    There a fine bunch! I found one of their private blogs…guess what they were talking about???? Rednecks

  27. General Simon Bolivar Buckner
    *******
    Also the highest ranking American officer killed by enemy fire….Okinawa
    ———————
    Absolutely right. My neighbor was there when it happened but did not actually see it. The other thing about the general was the fact that his father was a Confederate General in the American Civil War and went on to become the governor of Kentucky. Not everyone who emerged from the confederate military landed on his feet this way. Upton Sinclair wrote the classic book The Jungle which documented the deplorable conditions in the Chicago stockyards at the turn of the century before the labor movement took hold. His father was a naval hero of the War of 1812, was one of the founders of the Naval Academy in 1840 along with Bancroft, but served in the confederate navy and fell into disfavor because of it. I forget where I read that. He must have been a midshipmen in 1812 to have served that long.

  28. Admin: The reason why I asked what “selected by acclamation was this”….from NQ blog by jbjd.

    jbjd
    creeper, you are welcome. You are going to hate this. (BTW, I think you meant MI.) In the COUP series, I mentioned, both FL and MI were restored to full voting rights just before the convention. But recall that the RBC had stolen delegates assigned to Clinton (4) and given these to Obama; and awarded all of the delegates pledged to the ‘candidate’ Undecided – this is an actual category of ‘candidate’ that is awarded pledged delegates – to Obama, too. If you did the math, with the delegates awarded only on the basis of votes cast for either candidate, they were both tied. BUT NEITHER ONE HAD ENOUGH VOTES TO CLINCH THE NOMINATION ON ONLY THOSE PLEDGED DELEGATES. Plus, the total numbers of delegate votes needed to clinch the nomination varied according to the TOTAL number of delegates. Thus, once MI and FL were given full votes, the total number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination went up.

    However, when they got to the convention, both states – this is unbelievable – voted for Obama! And Clinton won big in both of those states!

    As for state legislatures manipulating the timing of the primary votes in those states; or colluding with members of the opposing party in order to change those dates, your guess is as good as mine.

  29. Imam Rauf, President Obama, and why the Left resents 9/11

    Friday, September 17, 2010

    September 18th is Yom Kippur – the Day of Atonement and one of the holiest days on the Jewish calendar. On this day of days, there are a number of “sins” concerning the recent 9/11 anniversary that the political Left needs to atone for. Just in case they are unaware of these sins, I am here to help them out.

    This year’s anniversary tribute to the victims of 9/11 and their families was tainted, spoiled, and ruined by the controversy over the Ground Zero mosque. The 9/11 tribute – an event that once united a city and a country – has now divided us. Well, at least, some of us.

    Most Americans are opposed to the Ground Zero Mosque. For most Americans, the “mosque controversy” doesn’t even require debate. According to a Quinnipiac national poll released on Monday, fully 63% of the American people strongly believe it is wrong to build the planned Cordoba mosque near Ground Zero.

    However, as is typical of the Obama Administration and the political Left in general, the American people are the bad guys. In the President’s speeches and statements, in the liberal punditry of the Maddows and Olbermanns on MSNBC , and among the Hollywood elites, you can hear the disdain, the judgment, the smug superiority over those Americans they perceive to be the bigots, the racists, and the narrow-minded clods. You know, those “small people” in “small towns” across the U.S. that then presidential candidate Barack Obama, back in April of 2008, said “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment to explain their frustrations.” Americans express their freedom of speech that building a mosque near Ground Zero is wrong, insensitive, and unthinkable, and suddenly we’re condemned as bigots by Obama & Co? Is that how it works?

    On the anniversary of 9/11, instead of remembering Flight 93 and the brave Americans who died stopping the hijackers from their intended target – the United States Capitol – we were given yet another mixed message lecture by President Obama about the importance of tolerance. The President said, “It was not a religion that attacked us that September day — it was al Qaeda, a sorry band of men which perverts religion. And just as we condemn intolerance and extremism abroad, so will we stay true to our traditions here at home as a diverse and tolerant nation. ” Instead of remembering the 200 poor souls who were forced to jump to their deaths off the Twin Towers and the thousands of innocents who were brutally incinerated that fateful day, we’ve been force-fed a steady diet of Imam Rauf’s words of wisdom about Ground Zero. “It’s absolutely disingenuous, as many have said, that that block is hallowed ground,” said Rauf. “So let’s clarify that misperception.” The Imam’s attempt to stabilize the situation was equally stunning. “If we don’t do this right (build the mosque at Ground Zero), anger will explode in the Muslim world. It could become something very dangerous indeed,” he said.

    No more threats or lectures from the Left, please. I am sick of the threats from the Imam and the lectures from our President, who seems more concerned with “hurting the feewings” of the Muslim world. Americans are the ones who have been tolerant. Far too many in the Islamic community – it seems – are not. Where is the outpouring of grief and outrage from the Muslim world? We’ve been waiting for about nine years now for it.

    Imam Rauf’s Cordoba Initiative website has an interesting slogan: “Improving Muslim-West relations.” So has Imam Raulf accomplished his stated goal with? After months of protest, has he bended? Has he recognized the insensitivity of his position to the families of those killed? Has he changed his inflammatory rhetoric? The answer is no.

    Are the Imam and President Obama alone in their hypocrisy? No, again. From the mainstream media to Hollywood, liberals have lined up to defend the mosque under their catch-all banner of fighting for oppressed peoples, freedom of speech, and of course, big bad America. This is not uncommon; the political Left are full of hypocrisy.

    Excuse me, Michael Moore but…
    Last month, Time Magazine ushered in a new liberal term-of-art with its cover story, “Is America Islamaphobic?” Since then, the mainstream media has happily jumped on the “bigoted America” bandwagon. Hollywood has too.

    Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore has just raised $60,000 through his website for the Cordoba Initiative ie. Ground Zero mosque. He says in his blog, “I am opposed to the building of the ‘mosque’ two blocks away from Ground Zero. I want it built on Ground Zero.” Moore justifies his argument by saying that:
    “Blaming a whole group for the actions of just one of that group is anti-American. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Should Oklahoma City prohibit the building of a Catholic Church near the site of the former federal building that McVeigh blew up?”

    Excuse me, Mr. Moore, but Timothy McVeigh didn’t blow up the Oklahoma City Federal Building in the name of Catholicism. In contrast, the 9/11 terrorists did hijack three airplanes, destroyed the World Trade Center, bombed the Pentagon, and murdered thousands of American lives in the name of radical Islam. See the difference? To build a mosque near Ground Zero is rubbing salt in an American wound that hasn’t healed. The pain is fresh, searing. Nine years isn’t enough to heal it. Maybe no amount of time will. Add to this pain, the Imam’s own statements, the funding of the mosque project from suspect sources, and the Islamic tradition of “victory” mosques on “conquered” land and you have a very understandable – not bigoted – problem.

    The reasoning may be more than Moore’s pea brain can handle. But just maybe….nah.

    Et, tu, Woody?
    Moore is not alone though. Filmmaker Woody Allen claimed this week that all the people weighing in against the mosque are “exploitive, fake, frauds.” Such a nice guy who makes millions of dollars from everyday Americans who go to see his films.

    The Left normally prides itself on its moral superiority. However, for a political ideology that preaches extreme sensitivity, this lack of compassion concerning 9/11 is strange and unsettling. Is it because of what 9/11 represents? Do they, the political Left, resent 9/11 because it made Americans remember what we fight for abroad and at home? Do they deny it because it shows Americans that evil truly exists in the world? Do they hate 9/11 because it it shows that, perhaps, it isn’t America that is bad? Are they angry because 9/11 doesn’t fit the liberal storyline? That it isn’t Western Christian civilization that is evil?

    Word has it though that Imam Rauf may finally cave and move the Cordoba mosque to a location away from Ground Zero. It seems that news about his track record as a slum lord has gotten out. Since the mainstream liberal media can’t defend a slum lord, the victims of 9/11, their families, and the rest of America may be in luck.

    Yom Kippur is the Jewish Day of atonement. I guess all I am saying to my liberal friends is…there’s still time to atone; but you might want to get started now.

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/bill-kellys-truth-squad/2010/sep/17/imam-rauf-obama-and-why-left-resents-911/

  30. Jan: Gene Fine is the inspector general they are bringing in to investigate the justice department handling of the new black panther matter. He was was hired in 2000 which means that he does not owe his job to Holder. If he did, that would raise an inference of bias. According to his bio, he was a former US Attorney, Rhoades Scholar and basketball player. With nothing more to go on, I would be inclined to trust this guy. But who the fuck knows anymore. The elitists protect each other.

    http://www.justice.gov/oig/glennfine.htm

  31. pm, thank you for posting those. Damn, but I miss that man. And I appreciate that he is trying to help the Dims, because he has to. The problem is, not a one of them has any resemblance to him whatsoever. And people know that, no matter what Bill says.

  32. Bill’s mind and communication skills are so superior to anyone else that he is really in a different league. Obama, Reagan, even John Kennedy were no match for him. If you had an opportunity to see him on the campaign trail for Hillary, his off the cuff speeches were dynamic and riveting.

  33. H4T, Stewart’s reaction was priceless, no? He didn’t even say much — let the man speak. I don’t think even BC can save these idiots now. They are not implementing what BC says. Stewart’s jaw dropped to the floor and stayed there — ‘have you said this to him[Obama]?’ Why can’t they make the case like you? Because they are morons. Tim Caine went on Stewart and was a complete moron. His website is idiotic and his logo needs to be flushed down the toilet.

  34. Thank God, some good is coming out of evil!

    Wash Times claims $60,000 has been raised for the Cordoba project by Michael Moore’s site alone. Moore’s site says it is $50,000 so far, raised rather quickly.

    Here are some letters Moore received with the donations:
    michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/thousands-true-americans-respond-call-donations-islamic-center

    Now back to Frum’s original take: a publicity stunt to do something with a white elephant property (vacant since before 2001). Rauf wanted $100,000 to build his comminity center building. Had damn little. Some real estate investors bought or partially bought the property.

    After the flap, Trump offered to take the property off their hands with a 25% profit plus moving expenses. One of the major investors said he would sell to the first person who met his (higher) price, jettonizing Rauf.

    So — here’s Rauf gets donated most of what he needs from Moore (and other sympathizing lefties), the investor gets a big profit on no good real estate — and hopefully Paterson donates state land for the project.

    Allah be praised! Imo to follow….

  35. Okay. I give up. John Steward is pretty sharp. I have been slow to come around to it. The Kaine interview convinced me of this is true. He was laid it on the line with Kaine, Kaine responded with that moronic grin, some robotic comments and a handsome key chain which is destined to become a family heirloom on Mars.

  36. … imo following. About negotiation strategy.

    Now as to timing. Gingrich and other opponents of the project seem careful not to commit themselves to a distance they would accept.They claim to be objecting to the location only, but when asked where would be all right, they say “Middle East!” (Only Trump has named a distance from the actual WTC site, which is either 5 blocks or 7 blocks total; reports vary.)

    So if Rauf’s not careful, he might give up his preferred location but still be chased from one new location to another, as long as the opponents have energy to keep yelling. Better to let them get tired and ready to settle, before giving up any of his chips. (And the offers may keep getting better. 😉

    Hm, really, his best move might be to announce something too vague to make a good headline? No, they’re now after him to decide a new location RIGHT NOW!

  37. confloyd
    September 17th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    ————————–
    I agree. The guy is very articulate and impressive. It is the right prescription but Obama will not take it. Larry at NQ has posted a video of the entire interview. It is worth a look if you are interested.

  38. Speaking of Jon Stewart, I read that he is going to have a march on Washington in response to the recent Glen Beck march. This might have been mentioned here alread, so my apologies if it has been. Does anyone else see the irony in his rally’s name?

    http://www.popeater.com/2010/09/17/jon-stewart-rally-to-restore-sanity/

    Jon Stewart Announces DC ‘Rally to Restore Sanity’

    ‘Daily Show’ host Jon Stewart announced Thursday that he’ll lead a rally on Washington that aims to encourage angry citizens on both sides of the aisle to take it down a notch, or in his words, “stop shouting, throwing and drawing Hitler mustaches on people other than Hitler.”

    The event has been dubbed the “Rally to Restore Sanity” and will be held on the National Mall on Oct. 30. “It’s real,” he told his maybe-thinking-he-was-joking audience. “We are gonna do this.”

    The event has been dubbed the “Rally to Restore Sanity” and will be held on the National Mall on Oct. 30. “It’s real,” he told his maybe-thinking-he-was-joking audience. “We are gonna do this.”

    In a video setting up his case that both political parties have gone overboard, Stewart mixed in pundits like “Birther Queen” Orly Taitz and the “Ragin’ Cajun” James Carville. There were images from anti-war rallies and the recent rash of Tea Party events as well. He said the purpose of the rally will be to give the 80 percent of the country who usually “have s**t to do” a chance to rally … but for sanity, not rage.

    In contrast with Glenn Beck’s recent religious-y rally on Washington, where signs were openly discouraged, the Comedy Central funnyman urges marchers to go to town. He suggested a couple ideas, including “I Disagree With You, But I’m Pretty Sure You’re Not Hitler,” and “Take It Down a Notch, America.”

    The rally, which he also dubbed the “Million Moderate March,” will lean heavy on comedy, of course. Stewart’s “rival,” Stephen Colbert, bum-rushed the show to announce that he too would hold his own rally nearby for “all freedom-loving patriots” to challenge the “dark, optimistic forces” of Stewart and the ‘Daily Show.’

    He later said on the ‘Colbert Report’ that in order to “fight Jon Stewart’s creeping reasonableness” and “restore truthiness” he will lead the “March to Keep Fear Alive” in the same exact spot on the same day as his Comedy Central colleague.

    In a statement, Comedy Central promised a face-off between Stewart and Colbert that will be “bigger than Nixon/Kennedy, Ali/Foreman, Aniston/Jolie, 50/Nas, Joe/the Volcano, Alien/Predator, Bunny/Fudd and Ecks/Sever combined.”

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-16-2010/rally-to-restore-sanity

    The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon – Thurs 11p / 10c
    Rally to Restore Sanity
    http://www.thedailyshow.com
    Daily Show Full Episodes Political Humor Tea Party
  39. ◄ Admin ►, my last comment is in moderation because I have a video link in it. Could you please release it?

    Thank you

  40. I clicked on submit too fast. Those ‘kids’ were 8 or 10 or younger during Clinton’s term. Probably all they remember is Lewinsky. If Jon Stewart can introduce them to the real Bill Clinton will they feel betrayed by their idol Obama for distorting Clinton’s reputation?

    Did you see the master do this in the Jon Stewart video –‘..Newt Gingrich had his contract on America ..uhhh for America..’ LOL..

    Here is the video as it aired if anybody wants to see the missing part: BC starts at 12:26..
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-september-16-2010-bill-clinton

  41. Turndown….you are riding my last nerve. We have moved on and are focusing on other matters. Please stop, you are convincing NO ONE.

  42. The funniest thing to me about watching Bill sit there and be his usual genius self is that no matter how hard he tries to transfer that appeal to Obama, it’s an utter failure. The very fact of him sitting there being Bill is such a stark and utter contrast to the weak crap that the Dims are offering, it makes the Dims look even worse.

    Anyone watching Bill, no matter what he says about “get behind Obama”, can only be thinking, “OMG, Obama looks like such an incurious, platitude-spouting, incompetent fool compared to this guy!” All the hopium is instantly sucked from the room.

    That’s just hilarious to me – that all of Bill’s efforts on his behalf will just sink him further. It’s like having Pavarotti sing an aria, then earnestly tell you to buy Yoko’s album, because she’s…um….a singer too, honest.

  43. All the Stewart videos are worth a look. Thanks to pm for posting them. If there was any doubt in your mind Hillary doesn’t have a plan that will right the economy on day one after her election, I suggest taking a few minutes and watch the Stewart videos and try to absorb what BC is saying. The Clintons are master financial mechanics. They have identified what is wrong with our economy and know how to fix it. BC did say, it can’t be done if you use your vote in protest by voting straight Republican.

  44. Mrs. Smith, if you think that the O administration is going to do anything resembling what Bill would do, I have a bridge to sell you. Bill, bless his heart, is doing his best to put a brave face on this clusterf**k. But I ain’t buying it, because Bill is not the one in charge.

  45. Bill Clinton is truly a smart man who loves this country. What were the American people thinking when they “sorta” elected an idiot for eight years and now a fraud for almost two? (Thanks, a lot, Karl for your part in all that!)

    I’d love to see BO go on any show and actually talk about the real situation with our economy with statics and provide solutions like Clinton.

    I’m always in awe of the brilliance and caring of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

  46. As the Corporate Party of the USA plays its games for the voters, the economy continues to grind the former American middle class into poverty.

    Record number of US homes seized by banks
    By Andre Damon
    18 September 2010

    More US homes were repossessed by banks in August—more than 95,000—than in any other month in history, according to realtytrac.com, a real estate marketplace. The company expects 1.2 million bank repossessions this year, a level 12 times higher than in 2005, when there were only 100,000.
    (snip)
    The number of people putting in new claims for unemployment benefits remained basically unchanged last week, at 450,000, the same level as nine months ago, and nearly double the pre-recession level.

    In short, all indicators point to a protracted economic slump, with little, if any, improvement in housing prices. The bad housing market will further hurt families burdened by falling wages and high unemployment. According to figures released by the US Census Bureau on Friday, one in seven Americans is now living below the poverty level, and the total number living in poverty, nearly 44 million, is the highest since the 1960s.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics said Friday that real average hourly earnings for production and non-supervisory workers fell again in August. A 0.3 percent increase in prices wiped out a 0.2 percent increase in average hourly wages, leaving these workers with a 0.1 percent fall in average hourly earnings.
    (snip)
    etc…etc…etc..

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/sep2010/econ-s18.shtml

  47. #
    HillaryforTexas
    September 17th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Mrs. Smith, if you think that the O administration is going to do anything resembling what Bill would do, I have a bridge to sell you. Bill, bless his heart, is doing his best to put a brave face on this clusterf**k. But I ain’t buying it, because Bill is not the one in charge.
    _______________________

    Oh dear- I’m afraid I didn’t get the same message you did… Bill certainly couldn’t come out and say if it’s an Obama Dimocrat, you have 3 options. Vote for a candidate that is a “D” but isn’t an Obama “pet”; or vote (R) the other way. If he spelled it out precisely as he meant it, he would have been labeled a traitor by the Obama camp and jeopardized Hillary’s tenure.

    If Hillary primarys Obama it will get down and dirty. We will hear some nasty. If in 2011 Obama says he had enough and won’t seek a 2nd term. They will run a positive campaign to beat the Republicans to the punch.

    sorry if my post was misleading to you…

  48. Elsewhere there’s a claim going around that Obama has received 400% more death threats than previous presidents. My memory of a few months ago(?) was that the Secret Service reported that threats are DOWN from previous Presidents.

    Does anyone remember a cite or key word for this?

  49. what Bill should have said…or at least I would have love to have heard…when Stewart asked him if he ever speaks to the current admin and schools them on what should be done (besides redecorating websites and handing out keychains)

    …in my fantasy Bill would have said…”that’s why you needed Hillary as President…”(way back when when we started out we used to have an old saying…two for the price of one”)

  50. S, that is exactly what I was thinking as I watched Bill on THE DALEY SHOW…we could have had TWO for the price of one…a fantastic, strong, qualified leader like Hillary and this brilliant man thrown in to help.

    Instead we have a fraud and his clown.

  51. TurnDownObama, one of our first assassination articles from 2009 examined the alleged death threats. See here: The Obama Death Threat Plots; The Who And Why Behind Them

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/10/07/the-obama-death-threat-plots-the-who-and-why-behind-them/

    We debunked the death threat numbers in this article: Assassination Laughs, Gaffs, and Pratfalls. There is plenty of information there and a link to congressional testimony on the actual threat level. Check out the section regarding Mark Sullivan for the relevant links.

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2010/01/06/assassination-laughs-gaffs-and-pratfalls/

  52. turndown, that 400% story has been circulating forever, and has been debunked by the secret service itself:

    Here’s a transcript of the actual exchange with the secret service, when the house was investigating the party-crashers:

    ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON (D), WASHINGTON, D.C. DELEGATE: It is well known and in the press over and over again that this president has received far more death threats than any president in the history of the United States, an alarming number of death threats.

    I’m not going to ask you for the details on that. But here we had the first state dinner, not of just any old president, but of the first African-American president. Was there any attempt to increase security given all you know, which is much more than we know, about threats to this president of the United States?

    SULLIVAN: Ma’am, no matter who the president is…

    NORTON: I’m asking about this president. And my question is very specific. Given death threats to this president, was there any attempt to increase the security at this event, yes or no?

    SULLIVAN: Ma’am, I can’t talk about that.

    I would be more — number one, I will address the threats. I have heard a number out there that the threat is up by 400 percent. I’m not sure where that number…

    NORTON: Is it up at all? We’re not asking for the threat number.

    SULLIVAN: Well, I would — I think it can answer you, ma’am. It isn’t at 400 percent. And I’m not sure where that number came from, but I can…

    (CROSSTALK)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can’t hear, gentlemen.

    NORTON: Please don’t assign to me a number in my question. I just asked you if the threats were up. Are the threats up or not, Mr. Sullivan?

    SULLIVAN: They are not. The threats right now in the inappropriate interest that we’re seeing is the same level as it has been for the previous two presidents at this point.

    NORTON: This is very comforting news.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mike-bates/2009/12/03/cnns-sanchez-retracts-his-claim-400-percent-increase-presidential-death-

  53. Great post Admin!

    I never expected that Barry would be this BAD as a president, I knew he was a fraud, a cheat and a puppet…but to do so much damage to the country is shocking.

    Yes, and that the majority of voters in our country are now as ticked off as PUMAs have been since our girl was cheated out of the primary…not only are they caring pitchforks to the voting booth, they are swinging baseball bats while laced up in their voting jack boots.

    Throw the bums out!

    Whoah, this November is going to be a slaughter!

    Nasty had better fasten her seat belt for the catapult is gonna blast her off that perch.

  54. admin
    September 17th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    This time it’s not “tin soldiers and Nixon coming”. It’s the voters, many students, this time.

    ————–
    I remember this time well, I was protesting on a University campus on the west coast then, and Kent State ramped up the emotions of everyone. It was a very serious and a dangerous time in our history. Too bad, I was innocent enough to think that America would never make this mistake again, to get involved in a war that couldn’t be won. Then George Bush decided to go after Saddam and his non existent WMD instead of Bin Laden. Ugh…10 years later, over 5k American lives, counless innocent Iraqi lives are lost, and still, Bin Laden is on the lam.

  55. If you look at the policy objectives Obama is pursuing, from health care, to cap and trade, to financial reform the common objective is TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE. Czar Cass Sunstein is working on a new regulatory scheme which is totalitarian in character and will harmonize our laws with those of other nations thereby undermining sovereignty. Furthermore, the Dean of the House (meaning the oldest living relic) John Dingel said this is of the same view and said this:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/24/dingell-it-will-take-a-while-for-obamacare-to-control-the-people/

  56. wbboei
    September 18th, 2010 at 1:46 am

    This is the line of argument I don’t buy. Hillary campaigned on cap and trade, universal health care(with a public option), and fin reform. Obama is sloppy and incompetent. Articles like this give him far too much credit. But, unless you think Hill was out to control people, I don’t know how you can think lite versions of her policies are designed to serve such a purpose.

  57. newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-on-obama-the-president-is-losing-it/#ixzz0ziJ3YgP

    …this is from an ‘anonoymous’ source, but it is still an interesting read…

    a tidbit…

    White House Insider on Obama: “the President is Losing It.”
    Published by Ulsterman on September 7, 2010 in Opinions

    A longtime Washington D.C. insider, and former advisor to the Obama election campaign and transition team, speaks out on an administration in crisis, and a president increasingly withdrawn from the job of President.

    snip

    But after Obama was sworn in, things began to change? Almost immediately. Obama loved to campaign. He clearly didn’t like the work of being President though, and that attitude was felt by the entire White House staff within weeks after the inauguration. Obama the tireless, hard working candidate became a very tepid personality to us. And the few news stories that did come out against him were the only things he seemed to care about. He absolutely obsesses over Fox News. For being so successful, Barack Obama is incredibly thin-skinned. He takes everything very personally.

    And you state he despises Joe Biden? Oh yeah. That is very well known in the White House. Obama chose Biden for one reason – to have an older white guy with some international policy credentials. Period. If Biden has all of this international experience that Obama found so valuable, why has he buried him under the pile of crap that became the stimulus bill? What does Joe Biden know about budgets and economics? Not much – but Obama didn’t care. Give Joe a job and get him the hell out of my hair – that pretty much sums up the president’s feelings toward Joe Biden.

    What about Hillary Clinton? Obama is scared to death of Hillary. He doesn’t trust her – obsesses over her almost as much as he does Fox News. He respects her though, which might be why he fears her so much as well. He talks the game, but when it comes down to it, she has played the game on a far tougher level than he has, and Obama knows that.

    How about Bill Clinton? I never heard Obama say anything about Bill Clinton personally, though I was told he has cracked a few jokes about the former president since getting into the White House. I have heard that Bill Clinton does not like Barack Obama. That really started when Obama played the race card against him during the primary campaign. Apparently Clinton was apoplectic over that and still hasn’t gotten over it. If there is one thing I have learned in this town – don’t make an enemy of Bill Clinton.

    So if Obama doesn’t appear interested in the job of president, what does he do day after day? Well, he takes his meetings just like any other president would, though even then, he seems to lack a certain focus and on a few occasions, actually leaves with the directive that be given a summary of the meeting at a later date. I hear he plays a lot of golf, and watches a lot of television – ESPN mainly. I’ll tell you this – if you want to see President Obama get excited about a conversation, turn it to sports. That gets him interested. You start talking about Congress, or some policy, and he just kinda turns off. It’s really very strange. I mean, we were all led to believe that this guy was some kind of intellectual giant, right? Ivy League and all that. Well, that is not what I saw. Barack Obama doesn’t have a whole lot of intellectual curiosity. When he is off script, he is what I call a real “slow talker”. Lots of ummms, and lots of time in between answers where you can almost see the little wheel in his head turning very slowly. I am not going to say the president is a dumb man, because he is not, but yeah, there was a definite letdown when you actually hear him talking without the script.

    snip…read on…

  58. admin and h4t,

    Thanks! The TPM Sullivan report from hillaryis44.org/2010/01/06/assassination-laughs-gaffs-and-pratfalls/ was just what I needed. Just posted the excerpt on Ebert’s Journal.

    Nice to have my memory validated! I saw so many reports of the 400% that I was beginning to wonder.

    Btw, when I was Googling before asking here, hillaryis44.org/2009/10/07/the-obama-death-threat-plots-the-who-and-why-behind-them/ came up on the first page.

  59. wbboei
    September 18th, 2010 at 1:46 am
    If you look at the policy objectives Obama is pursuing, from health care, to cap and trade, to financial reform the common objective is TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE. Czar Cass Sunstein is working on a new regulatory scheme which is totalitarian in character and will harmonize our laws with those of other nations thereby undermining sovereignty. Furthermore, the Dean of the House (meaning the oldest living relic) John Dingel said this is of the same view and said this:

    ***************************

    yes…and combine that with the info provided by:

    SHV
    September 18th, 2010 at 12:22 am
    As the Corporate Party of the USA plays its games for the voters, the economy continues to grind the former American middle class into poverty.

    Record number of US homes seized by banks
    By Andre Damon
    18 September 2010

    More US homes were repossessed by banks in August—more than 95,000—than in any other month in history, according to realtytrac.com, a real estate marketplace. The company expects 1.2 million bank repossessions this year, a level 12 times higher than in 2005, when there were only 100,000.
    (snip)

    **********************************************

    …and you can see that the objective is too enslave us…seize our property one way or another and just resell it to the next prospect…make us think they are reforming things while they play 3 card monty on us…

    …force us to support the banks, insurance companies and drug companies through mandates and keep us all in line by the peering eyes of the IRS that will be watching our every move…along with all the other countless bureacracies that have been created in those two thousand pages of health reform and a few more thousand pages of fiance reform…that no one has read but they signed off onto to make law…

  60. mj
    September 18th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    wbboei
    September 18th, 2010 at 1:46 am

    This is the line of argument I don’t buy. Hillary campaigned on cap and trade, universal health care(with a public option), and fin reform. Obama is sloppy and incompetent. Articles like this give him far too much credit. But, unless you think Hill was out to control people, I don’t know how you can think lite versions of her policies are designed to serve such a purpose.

    =================

    mj,

    Per Occam, I don’t necessarily buy the control theory. However I don’t agree that your ‘lite versions’ eliminates the possibility.

    I’m not sure that ‘lite’ describes Obamacare. It’s a heavy facist mandate, enforced by the IRS. (Iirc, Hillary’s mandate was not enforced by anything, other than if an uninsured person showed up in ER, the office would immediately enroll him in whatever plan would be best for him.)

    One might say that the table of contents of Obamacare would look like Hillarycare ‘lite’ because so many elements would be missing (eg public option, same as Congress option, etc). However the overall massive detail of the insurance mandate (and other features) would probably outweigh Hillarycare in volume and complexity.

    I expect the same applies to cap and to fin reform.

  61. Great post admin! My brother in Kansas doesn’t think that even 1 dem will win. Asshats.

    pm317
    September 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Can we have him back? From the bottom of my soul, I love him. How is it that he solved the economic problems of this country in an 8 minute segment on Jon Stewart and Obumbles couldn’t do it in 21 months? Maybe he needs another vacation. Presidentin’ is hard you know….

    Asshat….

    Give me Bill any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Since I can’t have him…

    Hillary 2012

  62. So Muckycowski has decided to run as a write in….good luck with getting voters to trundle miles in the snow in a cold Nov and spell your name wrong.

    Who does this old cow think she is. This seat does not belong to her, you lost, just go.

  63. “nomobama
    September 16th, 2010 at 12:24 am

    DefiantOne
    September 15th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    =============================

    I consider myself a PUMA…Yet, if PUMAs are predominately like you, then those PUMAs can go *blank* themselves, too. PUMAs rightfully looked for sympathy and support when Hillary was being trashed in a sexist way, and I for one believe that the same forces are at work trashing Christine O’Donnell, regardless of if I agree with her 100% or not on the issues…You and your PUMA friends don’t own the opposition to Obama. You are just one segment of that opposition, and condescension will only lose support for your cause. Nobody needs to hear that bs, especially from a self-identified PUMA who should be sensitive to nasty behavior…You’re only as smart as you think you are.”

    This is nonsense and psychobabble. The issue is Christine O’Donnell, not the pathologies of PUMAs and your personal hurt feeling. Christine O’Donnell is being attacked because she’s a horrible candidate. Nobody said anything sexist about her. And even if they had, she’s still a horrible candidate. She is hack, a liar, and joke. There is no comparison between Hillary Clinton and Christine O’Donnell in any way shape or form. Hillary was qualified. Christine has earned the attacks on her character because she is dishonest and unqualified. A comparison between O’Donnell and Obama would be more prescient. She are both serial liars who have no experience and do not belong on the national stage.

    As for condescension, if the shoe fits, sorry. What you call condescension I recognize as truth. If the truth hurts your feelings, too darn bad. PUMA is not here to stroke your ego.

    As for — let’s see, how did you so juvenile-ly put it — oh yes, as for me going to ***** myself i have only one response:

    Drop dead.

  64. So Muckycowski has decided to run as a write in….good luck with getting voters to trundle miles in the snow in a cold Nov and spell your name wrong.

    ================

    LOL! Maybe she’ll change it. To ‘Palin’?

  65. PUMAs rightfully looked for sympathy and support when Hillary was being trashed in a sexist way, and I for one believe that the same forces are at work trashing Christine O’Donnell, regardless of if I agree with her 100% or not on the issues…

    =================

    I see a sexist element in the trashing of Palin as ‘incompetent’, ‘stupid’, etc. It’s hard to imagine a male candidate being treated quite that way.

    Having seen it done to Palin, imo we should be very suspicious when any other woman is described that way.

  66. DefiantOne
    September 18th, 2010 at 6:20 am

    Waaaaahhhhhh, waaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaah. I’m surprised you’re not an Obot because you sure act like one.

  67. Oy, Let me see if I can explain in a coherent manner what Obama is all about without ruffling anyone’s feathers. As incredulous as it may seem to you, Obama is not governing the country in our country’s best interests. (no surprise there) It is not because he is stupid. It is not because Obama is lazy. It is because he was put in place as the president of the US by the Global elites to be the head of a puppet government who’s sole purpose is to degrade the status of the United States as the world’s only Super Power. (and why the entire democratic party was against Hillary and for Obama. Every congressional higherling is a Soros bought and paid for slave.)

    It took us (confloyd, wbboei and I) a while to figure out the root of the problem. Why things are the way they are. Through weeks and months of buckling down doing nothing but intensive research, researching history and putting all the facts together and finally publishing the findings into a coherent 12 chapter story dubbed “Obama’s Godfather”, were we able to present the facts as they are proving why, what and how things are the way they are in our country.

    You must have heard us many times mention Soros in our posts. That George Soros is the official “agent” for the elites and the laizon between the elites and Obama. Obama has to follow a script, a scheme constructed by Soros (who by the way “HATES” the United States)approved by the Global elites who (except for the US) are the World’s economic decision makers.. The script is designed to bring our country in line with the economies of the European countries.

    Now, time has finally won out and reinforced our thesis on why the Obama presidency is a failed presidency. Whether or not you believed our findings when we first presented them, allowing the conclusions of this dynamic, at the very least, the plausible deniability of a mind bending truth. Is another story altogether.

    If you are open to a better understanding of why things are the way they are in our country and how this affects Bill and Hillary’s handling this situation delicately. Here is the link to where this info is archived… good reading.

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/blockbuster-obama%e2%80%99s-godfather/

    BTW- Wbboei and confloyd may want to add to what I have written… so stay tuned if you are interested in understanding more.

  68. nomobama
    September 18th, 2010 at 7:14 am

    Dems to voters: You may hate us, but GOP is worse
    _________________________________

    This message to Dem voters goes back to Admin previous posts advocating weeding out the Obamacrats from the Democrats and when you come across an Obamacrat and a Repub in Nov… use reason and logic for which candidate to vote for. Can the Obamacrat be flipped? How much Obama bidding has he done? Was he promised a gift or a favor he never received by giving Obama his vote? (rationalize and assess similar criteria like this) The best example of this way at making your determinations is the recent choice of the Mary O’Donnell(R) over the (D) Mike Castle.

  69. What sort of campaign is that….”we suck less” i mean what in that would motivate you out to vote for them. Nothing, nada, zilch.

  70. This message to Dem voters goes back to Admin previous posts advocating weeding out the Obamacrats from the Democrats and when you come across an Obamacrat and a Repub in Nov… use reason and logic for which candidate to vote for.

    ================

    Yes. And if the Dem is an old Hillary supporter, reward her.

  71. I really don’t have the desire to vote for any I any Democrat right now. I understand how some want to reward certain Democrats for standing against obama, obamacare, hillary trashing, misogyny, or any other noble reason, but I won’t be able to do that this election.

    For me, this is not so much about an individual candidate than it is about a contemptuous, and corrupt political party that does not have America’s best interests at heart, imo. Every Democrat that is in office is a sign of approval for the Democratic party of which I no longer approve. It’s too bad the good Democrats were not independents because it would help me vote for them. As long as there is a letter D behind there name, they won’t have a chance in obamaland of getting my vote. A crushed Democratic party is a party that MAY change back to one that I can entrust with my vote. Right now, I can’t.

  72. My laptop is a pain in the butt. The cursor consistently moves from the line I am typing on to other lines that I have already typed, and I don’t always catch the additional words that I have typed, but on the wrong lines. Sorry about the errors, and my lack of proofreading to catch them before I hit submit.

  73. Big Dawg – no wonder the elite hate you so!!!!! Now you have outlined to the world … the perfect strategy for a Democratic win this fall. But Dims cannot use it and save face. Harty-har-har-har-har!

  74. Mrs. Smith
    September 18th, 2010 at 7:49 am

    Mary O’Donnell(R) over the (D) Mike Castle.

    should be “Christine” O’Donnell.
    _____________________________

    nomobama
    September 18th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    “It’s too bad the good Democrats were not independents because it would help me vote for them. As long as there is a letter D behind there name, they won’t have a chance in obamaland of getting my vote.”
    ____________________________

    I understand your pov. However, the Clinton’s plan, beginning this year is to reconstruct the Dem Party back to the Party of FDR. When you have a minute, you have to think out are you better off casting your vote emotionally or doing so on a case by case basis using your good common sense?

  75. I think that an obamacrat is a person that cannot be trusted. Flipping is just a sign of someone trying to save his or her own hide, and not a real sign of repentance. Look at it this way. When the Democratic party is repudiated for its horrible governance, there will be new Democrats waiting in the wings to push out the old. My hope and desire is that these new Democrats are not anything like obamacrats, and are more centrist in nature. If that happens, and people like Pelosi, Reid, plus a whole host of corruptocrats are purged from office, then I will seriously consider supporting the Democratic party again sometime in the future.

    Something changed in me after 2008. I have always voted Democrat, even when I knew that the Democrat candidate was not particularly good. My protest votes against them today may result in certain candidates getting into office that may not be all that great, but I will have to accept that for now. Unless real change comes to the Democratic party, I may never vote for their candidates again.

  76. Democratic special interest groups to the Democratic party rescue in Delaware. Interesting how someone like Rangel has not come into her crosshairs when he failed to pay much more than 10 to 20k in taxes, but Christine O’Donnell is arguably fair game.
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    A watchdog group says it plans to ask authorities in Delaware to investigate Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell’s finances.

    At issue are more than $20,000 of spending in 2009 and 2010 that Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington claims was illegal.

    “It turns out Miss O’Donnell has treated her campaign funds like they are her very own personal piggy bank. She’s used that money to pay for things like her rent, for gas, meals and even a bowling outing. And that’s just flat-out illegal,” said Melanie Sloan, the group’s executive director.

    In an interview on CNN’s “AC360,” Sloan said her organization would be sending letters to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Delaware and the Federal Elections Commission on Monday asking them to investigate.

    Video: O’Donnell rallies Tea Party base

    Video: ‘These people don’t want compromise’ RELATED TOPICS
    Christine O’Donnell
    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington
    Delaware
    “For example, in 2009, Miss O’Donnell wasn’t a candidate for anything, yet she had numerous campaign expenses, things like travel and gas, and yet she had no actual campaign,” Sloan said.

    O’Donnell’s spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment.

    Speaking Friday afternoon at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, O’Donnell discussed the increased scrutiny she has faced as she has moved from a virtual unknown to a Sarah Palin-style celebrity in a matter of days.

    “Will they attack us? Yes. Will they smear our background and distort our record? Undoubtedly. Will they lie about us, harass our families, name call and try to intimidate us? They will. There’s nothing safe about it. But is it worth it?….Are those unalienable rights worth a little alienation from the beltway popular crowd. Yes! I say yes, yes, a thousand times yes,” she said.

    Sloan said Friday that her organization’s complaint to the Federal Elections Commission will allege that O’Donnell abused campaign funds for personal use and made false statements on forms she filed with the Federal Elections Commission.

    But Sloan said her organization’s scrutiny had nothing to do with partisan politics. She noted that her organization had also recently called for Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, to step down after allegations of ethics violations.

    “We’re about right and wrong and not about black or white, Republican or Democrat,” she said. “And it is flat-out wrong for a candidate for the U.S. Senate to be stealing her campaign funds and be using them for personal use.”

    Politically, O’Donnell is firmly aligned with Tea Party movement, which funneled more than $150,000 to her campaign shortly before Tuesday’s primary. Largely opposed to abortion rights and gun control, she has been endorsed by two conservative populists — former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina.

    The 41-year-old upset winner of Delaware’s GOP Senate primary may be a blank slate to most Americans, but she is no stranger to political bosses in what had been — until Tuesday — one of the country’s last safe havens for moderate Republicans.

    O’Donnell, single with no children, has run for the U.S. Senate three times in five years. She finished a distant third in the GOP primary fight in 2006 before running uncontested for the right to challenge then-Sen. Joe Biden in 2008.

    Her claim that Biden had turned his back on Delaware when he joined Barack Obama’s ticket fell on largely deaf ears; she lost by roughly 30 percentage points.

    ==================================================

    This is what wikipedia has to say about Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW)

    The group is not officially aligned with any political party. Its stated mission is to “promote ethics and accountability in government and public life by targeting government officials – regardless of party affiliation – who sacrifice the common good to special interests.”[1] CREW advances its mission by engaging in litigation, public advocacy, Freedom of Information Act requests, media outreach and official complaints to government agencies such as the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service.[1] The Washington Post has variously described CREW as a “liberal watchdog group”,[2] “nonprofit watchdog group”,[3] “advocacy group”,[4] and “nonpartisan watchdog group”.[5] Roll Call reported in January 2008 that CREW files most of its complaints against members of Congress, and “all but a handful… have targeted Republicans”. The article stated that CREW had issued press releases against Democrats but usually had not filed complaints against them, with the exception of Senator Mary Landrieu, a conservative Democrat.[6] CREW defended itself in to Roll Call:

    “CREW is a nonpartisan organization that targets unethical conduct,” [Deputy Director Naomi] Seligman wrote… “Now that the Democrats are in power, they will have opportunities for corruption that were previously reserved to Republicans and it is likely we will see more Democratic corruption.”
    In 2005 the “Most Corrupt” list consisted of 11 Republicans and 2 Democrats.[7][8] The September 2009 list had 7 Republicans and 8 Democrats.[9] Their 2010 list of “Corrupt Candidates” includes 8 Republicans and 3 Democrats (including fringe Democratic candidate for U. S. Senate Alvin Greene).[10] CREW filed at least one ethics complaint in 2010 against a liberal Democrat, U.S. Representative Gregory Meeks.[11]

    Roll Call reported that CREW investigated “groups and individuals who are the foes of CREW’s donors” as well as a political opponent of one of CREW’s board directors, and that CREW refused to disclose its donor list.[6] Donors to CREW include such liberal groups as George Soros’ Open Society Institute, Democracy Alliance, Service Employees International Union, the Arca Foundation, and the Gill Foundation.[6][12][13] The Roll Call article also stated that the CREW mission statement had changed since 2005, when it read that CREW “differs from other good government groups in that it sues offending politicians directly” and that it “aims to counterbalance the conservative legal watchdog groups that made such a strong impact over the past decade.”

    U.S. Senator Conrad Burns of Montana charged that CREW was “maliciously false” and “partisan hacks” in calling him corrupt in 2005. The Billings Gazette reported that CREW defended itself:[7]

    “We are progressive,” said Naomi Seligman, the group’s deputy director… “We do work within a larger progressive infrastructure.” Seligman suggested her group is the progressive counterweight to Judicial Watch, a group from the right that calls itself “a non-profit, public interest law firm dedicated to fighting government corruption.”
    [edit] Director

    Melanie Sloan serves as CREW’s Executive Director. to starting CREW in 2003, she served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia, after having worked for Congressional Democrats John Conyers, Charles Schumer, and Joseph Biden.[14] As a lawyer she represents Valerie Plame in her lawsuit against former Bush administration official for their alleged role in the public disclosure of her classified CIA status.[15][16]

  77. Guess who is also coming to NM besides Bill, yes O. However, the media is making it very clear he is here on his 50 state tour to generically support Dems for the General election.

    Amazing, no D wants to associate with him in NM. In addition, Diane Denish was a hard axx supporter of HRC right through the convention. I must,and will vote for her, as she sacrificed a lot. However I will vote R for the LTG. The D candidate was a subversive supporter of O all along, trying to steal delegates at the state convention for him. Here those positions are seperate. I wonder if they will have any appearances together when he comes? I do not hear them mentioned at ths point.

  78. “CREW is a nonpartisan organization that targets unethical conduct,”
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    Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland: Chapter XI: Who Stole the Tarts?

    As the judge said–first the verdict. Then the trial. Since this non partisan group targets O’Donnell she must be guilty of unethical violation, and guilty or not you can be certain what the verdict will be. And with all the unethical behavior in the political world committed by sitting officials as opposed to mere mere candidates. Well you pretty much know that you are dealing with when you see the background here specifically that she worked for corrupt politicians in the dimocratic hierarchy and is doing their bidding here. Their claim of bi partisanship is right out of Alice In Wonderland, and they have no qualms about misrepresenting themselves to the American People.

    So then they have already made up their minds without conducting an investigation. Like the character
    This is a lie. They are NOT non partisan. Her background tells you all you need to know. Same pattern as the League of Conservation Voters, another non partisan organization. It just happened to have been founded by Bruce Babbit. And it just happened to headhunts Republicans at election time. How about a little truth in advertising. And how about having someone move in next door to this Sloan creep and monitor her habits and post them on the internet. Then the honors would be equal.

  79. “I think that an obamacrat is a person that cannot be trusted. Flipping is just a sign of someone trying to save his or her own hide, and not a real sign of repentance. Look at it this way. When the Democratic party is repudiated for its horrible governance, there will be new Democrats waiting in the wings to push out the old. My hope and desire is that these new Democrats are not anything like obamacrats, and are more centrist in nature. If that happens, and people like Pelosi, Reid, plus a whole host of corruptocrats are purged from office, then I will seriously consider supporting the Democratic party again sometime in the future.”
    ___________________________

    Whether a politician has the appeal of high moral ethics as the criteria for securing your/our vote is just one of the virtues we use as a reasonable measure for our vote. However, after knowing first hand the skulduggery that took place in Denver during the Dem nomination process will forever be an indelible imprint in my consciousness. There are so many hidden factors under consideration before voting for a Dem in November. I don’t know if you are aware of the happenings in Denver during the 08′ nomination process. Namely how the delegates and Super-delegates supporting Hillary were treated before they handed in their nomination ballots.

    I’ll try giving you a brief summary and a taste of the atmosphere surrounding those Democratic delegates in Denver.

    Pelosi’s henchman and Obama thugs were dispatched to collecting signatured ballots from every Hillary delegatein their hotel rooms. Her delegates were forced into sequestration by Pelosi and Obama thugs until their ballots were “correctly filled out” meaning, a vote checked off for Obama not Hillary. Some were threatened with bodily harm if they refused compliance. The hotel hallways were patrolled by thugs during the ballot process preventing anyone from getting help or assistance. Some delegates viewed as too stubborn to be flipped were subjected to bribes and any imaginable threat you can think of (even to their families and threatening their livelihoods) if they still refused to change their vote.

    Only if their vote was approved by the Obama thugs were they then allowed to leave their hotel rooms..

    It has never been brought out to a public level as of yet. At the time of the nomination, the Clintons had arranged a walkout of the Arkansas delegation and the Ohio delegation (this we know for sure) in protest of the electoral votes stolen from Hillary by the DNC on May 31 2008 in Washington at their meeting counting the delegates earned by both candidates.(we suspect, this last minute protest maneuver was neutralized by the following:)

    The Chairman of the Dem Committee, Bill Gwatney was scheduled to lead the walkout. Here is what happened to him: “Gunman Kills Top Arkansas Democrat. State’s Chairman Bill Gwatney, August 14, 2008. Shot Three Times At Party Headquarters; Shooter Dies After Police Chase.” (Note the dates of death for both of the Hillary defenders. Coincidentally just before the convention in Denver. you can google the story if you want to read more.)

    And “Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a lifelong Clintonite, Democratic representative of Ohio’s 11th district, died yesterday, August 20, 2008 from a ruptured brain aneurysm at age 58.” Whether her death was coincidence is questionable. Tubbs Jones was in what we consider in reasonably good health and her timely death came as a shock to everyone.

    The coincidence seems to lie with the timely deaths of the 2 great Hillary defenders. They were Hillary supporters willing to back Hillary in a public display of protest in Denver that would have blown the entire Democratic Convention wide open and possibly subjected Obama’s nomination to damaging public scrutiny concluding in the loss of the Dem nomination and the presidency.

    In hindsight, Hillary delegates were greatly aware after first hearing of the timely deaths of Gwatney and Tubbs-Jones knowing a protest plan was afoot at the nomination. And were chillingly reminded by the hallway Thugs waiting to be handed a so called ‘correct’ nomination ballot, reminding delegates in the face of any resistance: “that could be you.”

    Because of this history and the problem we now have with voting for Democrats, I say, use the case by case candidate criteria for making an informed decision…using your best judgment…

  80. Nomo..as you know I am with you on not voting (D) but if Dianne Feinstein were running I would vote for her. She was a great leader after George Moscone and Harvey Milk were assassinated and she was a good Mayor. She was a very loyal Hillary supporter, and begged out of the Dem. Convention with an ailment. She is a supporter of our closest allies and understands fiscal responsibility.

    But she is not running so I don’t have to cross that bridge! Absolutely NO on Boxer.

  81. Morning all:This is grass mowing day {2 acres)so I will be busy.In place of my usual comments the slogans for a bumper sticker are in order.

    “DRAFT HILLARY”

    IMPEACH the LEECH”

    By ABM92 Have a good day

  82. no D wants to associate with him in NM.
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    They may be ashamed of Obama now but that is hardly the point. The point is they stood with him on policy decisions harmful to the American People and their political fate in November must be determined on that basis. If you like Obama policies then by all means return this official to congress and you will get more of the same. If you deplore or are even skeptical of those policies then don’t be a rube. Throw this official out and show the elites who is in charge. You may have to do the same thing with the Republican replacement the next time around if he loots your piggy bank. But at least now, to thine own self be true. This dimocratic official does not serve YOUR interests, and be very skeptical of anyone who tries to tell you otherwise.

    PS. NMF: that is a general statement. I am fine with your support of Denish.

  83. Good morning ABM92. You are an inspiration my friend. At the rate I am going I will never make it to 92. But if I do I hope and pray that I have one quarter of the courage, determination and focus you do on what is vitally important to the future of this country, and that is getting the only leader who is qualified to rescue this country from the debacle we are heading toward and that leader is of course Hillary. God bless.

  84. #
    wbboei
    September 18th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    You are right Mrs.
    ______________________

    Yes, you should know. I don’t want Republicans back in power after the midterms. I’m hoping you don’t either. The REpublicans are responsible for the situation we are in right now because they created it over the years they were in control. All they did was go along with Soros because they could get done with the country what their aspirations were all along with Newt’s failed “Contract With America” (eliminating the middle class)and another stupid Republican policy, their PNAC Agreement. Keeping their CLEAN HANDS at the same time. (It’s been noted the Republicans already have their hands out.. for deals on HCR and most likely the drug companies as well.)

    I go along with the advise from the genius political strategist Bill Clinton on what is best for us in that respect. In the video’s he said, check the candidates out. If the candidate is an Obamacrat; throw him/her out and make your vote count with an Indy and as a last resort, a brrr.. Republican. It’s our best chance in the overall grand scheme of things. Right now we have to stop Rome from crumbling any more than it already has.. if we are to survive… It’s Triage time.

  85. Over on another blog, I often see comments that Obama is really a republican. I can understand why they say that, but this is what I wrote this morning:

    I actually disagree with those who think Obama is a republican, just as much as I do those who think he’s a socialist. Obama has no ideology other than himself. He wanted the presidency because he had a glorious vision of himself as president, having made history, flying on AirForce One, etc. In the place where most have some sort of opinion about what they support, he is hollow – there’s no there, there.

    In a rational world, this guy would have been no threat. But some Dem party movers and shakers saw that they had a golden chance to take over after the disaster of Bush, and wanted that power, badly. It wasn’t about the country for them, it was about the party. Some of these may actually have an ideology and ideals, but they were a lot more focused on getting those levers of power in D hands than they were on what they’d do with them. So they backed him, thinking it wouldn’t really matter who was leading the parade, so long as they won, and not one iota of their comfy party positions and mini-fiefdoms would be threatened (as Hillary might do.)

    Cue disaster. Obama’s “republican” policies have nothing to do with him being a closet Reaganite, any more than they have to do with him being a closet Clinton. Obama simply views them as the 2 most popular presidents in recent history (like it or not, they BOTH were), and so proceeded to cobble together a mishmash of the misapplied ideas of both in an attempt to emulate either/or. He could care less about policy itself, left or right. He merely wants to be adored as Reagan or Bill were adored, and keeps casting about in a muddled attempt to be either one. It’s still about his own vision of himself as much-loved POTUS, the policy is merely a fruitless seeking of that end.

    He has a particular obsession with and deep jealousy of Bill Clinton, and always has. His desire to eclipse Bill is very strong, and I believe was much of the source of his fearful contempt for Hillary.

    He tries to rote-like copy Bill’s “third way” politics, but without the strategy and depth of understanding that Bill possessed. So instead of strategic compromises that at least move us forward and get results, he just reaches into a bag marked “D policies and R policies”, pulls two out at random, and tries to cobble them together to create a monstrous hybrid that solves nothing and satisfies no one, right left or middle.

    And he is becoming increasingly frustrated that he is “doing what Clinton did”, and yet nothing is working and no one is loving him for it. He’ll make another pass at trying to be Reagan next, and will be equally frustrated.

    Can I prove any of this? Nope. But I have been a long observer of human political behavior and nature, and that’s my take on him. He’s not a republican. He’s not a democrat. He’s an insecure narcissist with both mommy and daddy issues, trying with all his might to make his own tantalizing fantasies about himself real.

    And we are all paying for it. This is the sad figure to whom the Dem power-brokers thought it was a good idea to hand the keys to a broken country. And no, I will NEVER forgive them for that.

  86. Palin really is a fascinating phenomenon. Regardless of who you support, and this IS as Hillary site, the sheer spectacle of her self-managed rise to ascendancy in the GOP is really remarkable. Last night in a room full of party activists who must have heard endless ‘candidate’ speeches she seemed to switch role slightly. Both the content of her speech and the passion with which she delivered it (to me) indicated a person trying on the mantle of party leader. Even the unevenness of voice delivery was compatible with someone wriggling into a new skin. The crowd response afterward and the respectful references to her by other speakers only confirm that thought. She may not have anything like Hillary’s experience and policy depth yet but already articles by those who worked with her in Alaska and on energy commissions are starting to appear that talk to her work ethic, her adherence to the law and constitution regardless of her personal beliefs, and her ability to absorb and respond to policy papers.

    Not wanting to be bombed, I repeat that today Hillary is by far and away the better qualified. But, as even some pundits are recognizing, people should not underestimate her.

  87. Mrs. Smith, this is a tough election season, and people are going to vote with different strategies in mind. I for one am not going to tell you or anyone else how best to voice their displeasure at the ballot box. It will be different for different folks in different states. Many different approaches have merit and logic behind them.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not criticizing your sharing of your thoughts on what you plan to do, or your sorting through your reasoning. Feel free. I’m just cautioning against any of us deciding that our way of dealing with this clusterf**k is the only wise one, and proceeding to bash the strategies of others.

  88. #
    HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Mrs. Smith, this is a tough election season, and people are going to vote with different strategies in mind. I for one am not going to tell you or anyone else how best to voice their displeasure at the ballot box. It will be different for different folks in different states. Many different approaches have merit and logic behind them.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not criticizing your sharing of your thoughts on what you plan to do, or your sorting through your reasoning. Feel free. I’m just cautioning against any of us deciding that our way of dealing with this clusterf**k is the only wise one, and proceeding to bash the strategies of others.
    ______________________

    If you read carefully. I was expounding on Clinton’s strategy as Bill Clinton himself expressed on the Stewart video. In case you haven’t viewed them already you should view them before you respond to my posts again.

  89. Mrs. Smith, I apologize if I came off as lecturing. I didn’t mean to. Yes, I’ve viewed the video, and commented at length above on Bill’s brilliance. I was only pointing out that much as we love Bill, all of us are capable of independent thought.

    I just don’t want to see anyone bash you if you decide to follow that strategy rather than a “punish the whole Dim brand” strategy that many are espousing. Neither do I want to see anyone bashed for failing to follow lockstep with the “reward the Hillary supporters” strategy. Both can have merit, and everyone is going to have to decide for themselves.

    Again, I apologize if my clumsy attempt to head off potential discord (which I hate to see here) came across as causing discord with you. That wasn’t my intent at all.

  90. HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    “Over on another blog, I often see comments that Obama is really a republican. I can understand why they say that, but this is what I wrote this morning:

    “I actually disagree with those who think Obama is a republican, just as much as I do those who think he’s a socialist. Obama has no ideology other than himself. He wanted the presidency because he had a glorious vision of himself as president, having made history, flying on AirForce One, etc. In the place where most have some sort of opinion about what they support, he is hollow – there’s no there, there. “
    _________________________________________

    agreed.
    ________________________

    “He tries to rote-like copy Bill’s “third way” politics, but without the strategy and depth of understanding that Bill possessed. So instead of strategic compromises that at least move us forward and get results, he just reaches into a bag marked “D policies and R policies”, pulls two out at random, and tries to cobble them together to create a monstrous hybrid that solves nothing and satisfies no one, right left or middle.”
    _______________________________________

    As you seem to understand Bill Clinton has a strategy in mind and he expressed himself on the best way to choose a dem candidate in November. For those who haven’t viewed Bill suggestions in the upcoming midterms. I was merely seconding the knowledgeable Clinton strategy for navigating the Obamacrats vs the “real” dems for the people, vs available Indys vs pulling the master Republican lever in November.

    If you cannot see or sense the gist of my meaning, then there is nothing more I can say to help you understand. Except saying once again , view ALL the Stewart video interviews with President Clinton especially the last one. It’s as clear as a bell what he is saying in his unique way without insulting Obama or the Democratic Party.

  91. HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
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    Thanks, H4T.. I posted before reading your latest response.

  92. wbboei
    September 18th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    They may be ashamed of Obama now but that is hardly the point. The point is they stood with him on policy decisions harmful to the American People and their political fate in November must be determined on that basis. If you like Obama policies then by all means return this official to congress and you will get more of the same. If you deplore or are even skeptical of those policies then don’t be a rube. Throw this official out and show the elites who is in charge. You may have to do the same thing with the Republican replacement the next time around if he loots your piggy bank. But at least now, to thine own self be true. This dimocratic official does not serve YOUR interests, and be very skeptical of anyone who tries to tell you otherwise.

    PS. NMF: that is a general statement. I am fine with your support of Denish.
    __________________________________

    My comment, wbb- was more a response to this post rather than your last post.

  93. HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    That’s okay, Mrs. Smith. Sometimes we talk past each other on here without meaning to.
    ______________________

    Yes, of course. Always remembering we are on the same side. And besides all that, we may have lunch together someday when I visit my son in Dallas and hope to have a meet up with confloyd while I’m there. If we’re careful, it could result in a grand reunion of sorts! 🙂

  94. HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Over on another blog,

    ============

    Where’s that? Can I come play too?

    1950democrat gmail

  95. articles by those who worked with her in Alaska and on energy commissions are starting to appear that talk to her work ethic, her adherence to the law and constitution regardless of her personal beliefs, and her ability to absorb and respond to policy papers.

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    Where are those articles starting to appear, what sort of publications? And, can you give some key words for finding them?

    I think it’s important to see WHERE things are appearing, and what side is writing them. For instance, most of the “Hillary 2012” I’ve seen seem to come from GOP or from old Hillary enemies (like Morris).

  96. view ALL the Stewart video interviews with President Clinton especially the last one. It’s as clear as a bell what he is saying in his unique way without insulting Obama or the Democratic Party.

    ===========================

    My system has trouble with videos. Is there a text version anywhere?

  97. Neither party has all the answers, and we cannot give either party too much power or they will abuse it sooner or later. We have seen what happens when we give unchecked power to a shaman like Obama. He has abused it and the middle class will pay the price. The bigger problem, however, is that the institutions themselves, which were put in place to maintain a sense of balance became corrupted by the power of money, the press being the prime example. But behind it all we have the elites. They have been a part of the scene since the early days of the republic, and they have always had a disproportionately large say in things. But today they are no longer strictly American, and their globalist interests no longer align with those of the American People. Finally, the entire world is undergoing megapolitical change, there is now a labor market of two billion, our legal institutions are being globalized and our sovereignty is no longer intact. We have a high standard of living, and we no longer have the economy to support it so we borrow. No single party has the answers to these complex questions and talk is cheap. The green economy is going to save everyone is what we are now hearing. Really? If we vest all our hopes in any single politician, if we impute to them superhuman powers, if we assume that not even a sparrow falls to earth without their approval then we impute to them god like powers which they cannot possibly live up to. This stems from the human desire for a fixed father controlled universe. Is this country ungovernable, as the Obama supporters now state. When he was merely a candidate and did not have to confront the real problems of governing those same supporters contended just the opposite namely that it was governable and that he would govern in like a philosopher king, so the proposition they now advance which is that it is ungovernable is a default position and an admission of failure. Dreams may come true, but they don’t last. We still have human beings and an economy which looks more and more like a burned out shell. I think my assessment of the Republican Party has been fair Mrs. Smith. I have been highly critical of them for many of the same reasons as you are. But that does not mean they are a priori evil villains, or the architects of our collective demise or that we cannot find some, indeed alot of good in what they espouse. The problem is they had too much power for too long and human nature took its course. Under Bush they violated the very principles they stood for as a party–small government, clean government, self reliance, the ideals of the old republic. Just as now Mr. Obama is violating the sacred principles of the democratic party which are economic security, national security and the advancement of civil rights broadly construed. We have no input into who the candidates are and when we are asked to vote on their choices and they throw out our vote to elect their candidate, then they need to go down, hard, real hard. That is treason. The best hope for the country is to defeat Obama and his ilk. Clean out the jungle rot that infests congress. And put people in who care more for the nation than their own pocketbook and have some idea how to get us out of this mess. That is why I like Hillary, and it is also why I like certain Republicans. But at this point Mrs. Smith, I owe my allegiance to neither party. I want problems solvers, rather than bullshit artists or horders or those who temporize. Problemsolvers are in short supply. This system works best when we have a Republican Party which functions along traditional lines and a Demcratic Party which functions along traditional lines rather than one party which represents the monied interest as we see today.

  98. nomobama
    September 18th, 2010 at 7:09 am

    “I’m surprised you’re not an Obot…”

    I have a feeling it doesn’t take a whole lot to confuse and surprise you. Just a hunch. :0)

  99. I think the world of Somerby at the Daily Howler. He is right about the elites. What I am not sure he realizes however is they have their hooks deeply embedded in BOTH political parties. It is worse with the dims however because they go on pretending they are something they are not. And Herbert, fool that he is, fails to understand that Obama is not the cure to the problem but the epitome of it. He is blinded by the race issue, and fails to realize that the real issue here is economic inequality, and to suggest that this is solely a Republican problem is a one way ticket to the boobie hatch.
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    Ignoring a revolution: By far, the most striking passage we read all week came from the pen of Bob Herbert.

    Herbert cited data from Robert Reich’s new book, Aftershock. In this passage, he is discussing your country’s economic growth over the past thirty years:

    HERBERT (9/14/10): There was plenty of growth, but the economic benefits went overwhelmingly—and unfairly—to those already at the top. Mr. Reich cites the work of analysts who have tracked the increasing share of national income that has gone to the top 1 percent of earners since the 1970s, when their share was 8 percent to 9 percent. In the 1980s, it rose to 10 percent to 14 percent. In the late-’90s, it was 15 percent to 19 percent. In 2005, it passed 21 percent. By 2007, the last year for which complete data are available, the richest 1 percent were taking more than 23 percent of all income.

    Those data describe a social revolution. In the 1970s, the top one percent received eight percent of national income. By 2007, their share had tripled, to 23 percent. Herbert went on to state a concomitant point: “A male worker earning the median wage in 2007 earned less than the median wage, adjusted for inflation, of a male worker 30 years earlier.”

    The rich have gotten a great deal richer. Everyone else has stood still.

    At Slate, Timothy Noah has completed his series about this massive rise in inequality. We’ll likely discuss his work in the coming weeks. For now, we’ll only suggest that you ask yourself this:

    In the face of that staggering social revolution, are you aware of any politics or political messaging on the left which has tried to encompass this revolution? Have liberal entities even tried to make the public aware of this change? Have liberal entities tried to build political frameworks in which average people of the left, the center and the right can see their obvious common interest in confronting this revolution?

    Actually, no—you have not. And by the way: Average people of the left and the right are the joint victims on this vast grab of wealth at the top. Progressives will never be able to address this revolution as long as average people are split into two warring camps, with big dumb nuts like Ed Schultz and Sean Hannity encouraging the two rival tribes to despise one another.

    Hannity serves the interests of wealth and power. Whose interests does Ed Schultz serve?

    Last night, Schultz opened his increasingly ludicrous program with an interview with Benjamin Jealous, head of the NAACP. Jealous may be a very nice person, but he is an utterly hapless public figure. He is a very heavy stone tied around progressive interests.

    Incredibly, Jealous still hasn’t released the text of the NAACP’s August resolution about racism and the Tea Party movement. Have you ever heard of a major organization adopting a high-profile resolution, then refusing to release its text? We’ve never heard of that either.

    One week after Jealous adopted that resolution, he declared Shirley Sherrod a racist! Yes, that Benjamin Jealous.

    Last night, Jealous was thundering with Big Eddie, and the intellectual bankruptcy of “the left” was there for all to observe. Quickly, Jealous made a familiar type of claim. But did his claim make real sense? Had Jealous arrived with the beef?

    JEALOUS (9/16/10): You know, the Tea Party folks—you know, you’ve got two camps. What I can’t understand is why they won’t be more outspoken about the racists in their ranks, why they won’t push them out.

    Wow! Good for Jealous! He was making a very strong statement: The Tea Party folk still won’t push the racists out of their ranks!

    Jealous said he can’t understand why the Tea Party won’t be more outspoken about all these racists! But did he have any examples of this refusal? Did he have new racist acts for us to consider? Sorry—Jealous, who called Shirley Sherrod a racist, was simply tickling the strings of his months-old greatest hits:

    SCHULTZ: So you want the Tea Party to denounce any talk of violence. They haven’t. You want the Tea Party to denounce racism. Have they done that?

    JEALOUS: You’ve seen bits and pieces and some good signs. You’ve seen some good signs. Again, you saw Glenn Beck saying, “Leave your signs at home.” He did it again this week. He said to people, “Just leave your signs at home.”

    You’ve seen them throw out Mark Williams from the Tea Party Express and the Tea Party Express faction for not disowning him. They’ve got to go further. They’ve got to go further. It’s fine if you want to build a movement on tax policy, but if you want to keep racism, you know, gasoline and racism aflame—

    SCHULTZ: No doubt. Does it make you nervous that their candidates are winning and it`s changed—it’s moving the Republican Party further to the right, which historically, has left minorities behind?

    JEALOUS: It makes me want to stand up and fight for pulling this country back to work, putting this country back together. You know, again, if they want to attack diversity, if they want to attack the 14th Amendment, if they want to attack the Civil Rights Act, we need to be pushing just as hard to get jobs created so that people in this country see that, look, you know, either you can run downhill towards hatred and division, or you can push, come together and push uphill towards prosperity and hope. And that’s where we need to be focused, in pushing uphill toward prosperity.

    “They’ve got to go further” in denouncing racism, Jealous declared, seeming to suggest (before being cut off) that the Tea Party movement “wanted to keep racism” mixed with gasoline in some manner. But how should the Tea Party movement go further? Schultz didn’t ask, and Jealous didn’t tell. The fellows simply tickled us rubes with more of their racism imagery.

    Racism has been the most pernicious force in American history. It’s a very serious topic; serious people treat it that way. People like Schultz and Jealous toy with the topic, because they don’t have a freaking thing to say about anything else. In the process, they keep building very high walls among the American people.

    Simple story: Average people of the left, right and center are getting eaten by the social revolution defined by Reich’s data. For example, they are all getting ripped off by the remarkable cost of American health care—a remarkable topic which went undiscussed in last year’s discussion of health care. Schultz suffered one of his most buffoonish moments in the course of that non-discussion (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 7/2/09). But no major liberal or mainstream press entity ever attempted to explain why health care costs are so stunningly high in this country.

    Duh. Those remarkable health care costs are part of the social revolution defined by Reich’s data. But did you see a single Big Liberal really examine that topic last year? Did you see Rachel raise it? Big Eddie? Joan?

    We’re sorry, but no—you did not.

    Our “liberal leaders” almost entirely come from within that top one percent. (From high within that one percent.) They display little sense of the problem defined by Reich’s data—and when they’re pushed, they tend to defer to corporate/major wealth interests. Over the course of the past several decades, the “liberal” world has produced nothing in reaction to the revolution defined in Reich’s data —no messaging; no frameworks; no serious outreach. Instead, our dumbest players—this would include both Schultz and Jealous—keep playing the same old songs, even when these songs serve to drive the electorate into rival camps. Even when they have nothing to bring to their claims of ongoing racism. People like this have little to tell you—so they keep singing these songs.

    The conservative world keeps churning the points which defend and advance that vast revolution. The liberal world is a sad screaming mess. Schultz and Jealous are very weak players—but this is the tea we get served.

    In fairness, Jealous later corrected himself. Shirley Sherrod isn’t a racist, he later quite brilliantly said. Sometime next month, he plans to release the text of that resolution.

    Have you ever heard of a big organization which conducts itself in this manner? Why on earth is crap like this good enough for us on “the left?”

    The latest from Madison Avenue: Later, Schultz dragged out Joe Madison, one of the least worthwhile of the worthless. Soon, the frothing fellows were discussing Christine O’Donnell. Liberal intellectual bankruptcy is virtually defined by this pitiful nonsense:

    MADISON: She won the process. I mean, there’s no question.

    JOHN FEEHERY: And she’s the nominee, she got the Republican nomination and she’s got a chance to win it. I think Castle had a better chance of winning but I think that she’s got a pretty good chance of winning.

    MADISON: The only thing that I disagree with Ed, it’s not an R, it’s a double R. These are radical Republicans that we’re talking about and I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen in November. As we move towards, people are going to see these are radical policies, radical Republicans. They are quite honestly remind me of Dixiecrats back during the Strom Thurmond era, as simple as that.

    To his credit, Madison used the perfect word: “simple.”

    Good grief. Inside Madison’s empty noggin, a discussion of Christine O’Donnell quickly led to “Dixiecrats during the Strom Thurmond era.” It would be hard to overstate the dumbness of that—although many liberals seem to be working hard, as we speak, to get O’Donnell elected. (And yes, she does have a chance.)

    How pathetic is Madison? Comically, he went on to say this. Truly, your side is a joke:

    MADISON: Well, look, who was it, Phillip Randolph said during the 60, the march, the march on Washington, Look who is opposed to Social Security. Look who is opposed to public education. Look who is opposed to health care. Look who is opposed to minimum wages and those are the people who you will find are the enemies of the Democrats and the folks who want to move this party forward. I got to say one thing. I had an interview with the president of the United States. He did say something very strong to me. And that was that the Republicans drove this vehicle into a ditch. And they want the keys back. And he said in the interview, in the Oval Office, we’re not going to give them the keys back. And I totally agree with you. But it’s got to be more than just the president and the vice president. There has to be more.

    Madison was desperate to let us know that he had interviewed Obama. He was so desperate, he was even willing to repeat Obama’s most frequently-offered talking-point, pretending it was new and different—“something very strong.”

    The other side has highly skilled leadership working to serve plutocratic interests. Your side counters with buffoons, from high in that top one percent.

  100. wbb- I have a lengthy post written. My points are well made with historical proof. I’d rather have you as a friend than be right.

  101. Let me weigh in for a moment on behalf of Nomoobama. The issue is no longer the merits of one candidate vs another. The issue is the strength of the wave. At this moment, salvation lies in creating a wave which is strong enough to cause the elites to notice, and to recognize that when they take 23% off the top (note: the mafia vig was 3%, except on pops) it cannot continue. I have no interest in the guillotine. I simply want the elites to be less piggish. Ironically, Michael Kinsley from my town jus wrote an article in Atlantic Magazine talking about how the aging baby boomers have destroyed the country. I do not read Kinsley. However, I would like to write the same article, because I do think the issue is ripe for discussion.

  102. Here in NJ, our local “Times” (the Trenton Times) tells us that the Obama Administration is facing accusations that they deliberately lowballed the oil spillage amounts from the BP deepwater well explosion.

    Funny, that OTHER “Times” (NYT) didn’t have enough room to print that today (unless it is old news), although they do dispense cheery news on that front, the “BP Begins Last Step in Sealing Stricken Well in the Gulf”.

  103. also, NYT has “Union Members Slow to Support Democrats”. Obama was supposed to be the anti-Bush, and after two years, these hard working folks don’t see much difference.

    One quote: “People have been unemployed for two years, and they’re unhappy that the health care bill was not as good as they expected.”

  104. rgb44hrc
    September 18th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    What is sickening is environmental scientists still working on evaluating BP’s damage to the Gulf have found huge sections of the seabed and ocean floor covered in as much as 2″ of black, heavy crude oil.

    The reported numbers in the 100s of 1000s of fish kills are staggering. As well as localized dead Star fishes and upper marine life, whales and flippers. This happening in response to the (Buffett owned) coexit used to disperse surface oil leaving the sea water devoid of the oxygen sea life need to exist.

  105. I think the world of Somerby at the Daily Howler. He is right about the elites. What I am not sure he realizes however is they have their hooks deeply embedded in BOTH political parties. It is worse with the dims however because they go on pretending they are something they are not. And Herbert, fool that he is, fails to understand that Obama is not the cure to the problem but the epitome of it. He is blinded by the race issue, and fails to realize that the real issue here is economic inequality, and to suggest that this is solely a Republican problem is a one way ticket to the boobie hatch.
    **********
    I agree…the Dems are more corrupt that the rethugs, for precisely the reason “they are pretending…”. Since the Goldwater election, the Republican Party has purged “centrists” so that now most of their elected officials actually believe their ruinous economic and theocratic swill. However, if a politician takes “bribes” to support policies that they believe, are they corrupt? After the last two years of the Obama disaster, the “American One Party” system has been fully exposed and the stench of the rot and corruption of the Dem Party is evident.

    I am becoming more hostile toward the “Elite” meme. The Right wing uses it a label for “educated, pointed headed librul, out of touch academic, etc. The implication is that education is counter-productive and that “common sense”, “gut’ feelings”, bible, etc. are a more reliable path to truth and solutions. This meme has been very persuasive to get a lot of people to vote against their economic self interest. One only needs to look at the massive wealth redistribution to the upper 1% since the Reagan Revolution and the destruction of the “Middle Class” American Dream.

    Unfortunately most of the “academic” discussion that is read in the media, either right or left, is driven by an agenda rather than science. The so called science/data analysis are used to support the conclusion.

    This Country is headed on the fast down elevator to gods knows where and “common sense” isn’t going to solve problems or make the necessary transitions easier. Unfortunately I don’t see any current political party that want to deal with real problems other than keeping themselves employed. The current social/economic policies of both parties are ruinous for the vast majority of Americans.

  106. HERBERT (9/14/10): There was plenty of growth, but the economic benefits went overwhelmingly—and unfairly—to those already at the top. Mr. Reich cites the work of analysts who have tracked the increasing share of national income that has gone to the top 1 percent of earners since the 1970s, when their share was 8 percent to 9 percent. In the 1980s, it rose to 10 percent to 14 percent. In the late-’90s, it was 15 percent to 19 percent. In 2005, it passed 21 percent. By 2007, the last year for which complete data are available, the richest 1 percent were taking more than 23 percent of all income.

    Those data describe a social revolution. In the 1970s, the top one percent received eight percent of national income. By 2007, their share had tripled, to 23 percent. Herbert went on to state a concomitant point: “A male worker earning the median wage in 2007 earned less than the median wage, adjusted for inflation, of a male worker 30 years earlier.”

    The rich have gotten a great deal richer. Everyone else has stood still.

    In the face of that staggering social revolution, are you aware of any politics or political messaging on the left which has tried to encompass this revolution? Have liberal entities even tried to make the public aware of this change?

    +++++++++++

    Gore in 2000. “Working families.” “The top 3%.”

  107. SHV says:

    “Unfortunately most of the “academic” discussion that is read in the media, either right or left, is driven by an agenda rather than science. The so called science/data analysis are used to support the conclusion.

    This Country is headed on the fast down elevator to gods knows where and “common sense” isn’t going to solve problems or make the necessary transitions easier. Unfortunately I don’t see any current political party that want to deal with real problems other than keeping themselves employed. The current social/economic policies of both parties are ruinous for the vast majority of Americans.”
    ______________________________

    Wholeheartedly agreed upon. The Dem Party is in for a megalithic purge that will splinter the Party to kingdom come.

    If you read or listen to the media from a purely curious standpoint, checking on the propaganda du jour you can remain untainted by the paid for promotion of their mystifying schisms meant to distract rather than inform.

    The Demcrats have never been able to accomplish much because in the past they could never agree upon policies or agendas. The Republicans are quite the opposite. They are the diligent policy wonks always striving to use the system to their own benefit avoiding the sniff test if their agenda is in the people’s best interest.

  108. SHV says:

    “the Dems are more corrupt that the rethugs, for precisely the reason “they are pretending…”. Since the Goldwater election, the Republican Party has purged “centrists” so that now most of their elected officials actually believe their ruinous economic and theocratic swill. However, if a politician takes “bribes” to support policies that they believe, are they corrupt? After the last two years of the Obama disaster, the “American One Party” system has been fully exposed and the stench of the rot and corruption of the Dem Party is evident.”
    _______________________

    The Democrats have been in power for a little less than two years. How do you leverage Dem corruption with the unfettered power Republicans have had for years and years ruling our government?

    Or was that a rhetorical comment? Just asking.

  109. Or was that a rhetorical comment?
    ******
    Perhaps an expression of disappointment. Is a politician who takes money to vote for their beliefs corrupt? How about Dems. who take money to vote against their beliefs or “go along to get along”? All of the Dems. who supported single payer, “drew the line” in the sand for the anemic “public option” and then voted for Obamacare and the transfer of $1 trillion of public and private money to the health care industry.

    “How do you leverage Dem corruption with the unfettered power Republicans have had for years and years ruling our government”
    *******
    My only explanation it that the parties are basically the same and the “differences” are showbiz for their respective bases. Otherwise how does one explain the $20 + trillion to the banks and financial industry or Obamacare, massive expansion of the Afghanistan war, a Democratic President asserting the right to non-judicial execution of American citizens, or signing an exec order limiting reproductive rights, etc., ad naseum and then the Dem Party “progressives” going along to get along?

    The bottom line, IMO, is that the voters are being “whip-sawed” by the “show” to continue to vote against their self-interest. The return of the rethugs will increase the rate of wealth redistribution.

  110. It is not about the social issues anymore. It is about economic survival. Who survives and who doesn’t. That is the force which will drive the next several elections in my opinion. The elites will try to distract us with those issues, but they have been superceded by the collapse of the housing market, the labor market and the economy.
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    The Myth of Conservative Vulnerability
    Thursday, 16 Sep 2010 08:03 AM Article Font Size
    By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

    Tuesday’s primary victories of Christine O’Donnell in Delaware and Joe DioGuardi in New York illustrate how the tea party is cleansing the Republican Party and installing true believers over professional politicians. It is a healthy trend that will continue to re-create the party of Reagan.

    But the conventional media, instead of hailing this trend, warn that conservatives cannot be elected and bemoan the victory of true believers — saying that it is equivalent to handing seats to the Democrats and the liberals.

    This reasoning, which made sense in other times, is badly flawed in today’s political climate.

    When social issues such as abortion, gays, and guns dominate the political discourse, moderates have a big advantage. Voters in these times tend to measure themselves on a left to right spectrum and find those flanked sharply to their right to be extremist on these issues and reject their candidacies.

    But these days, social issues are in remission and economic/fiscal problems have, understandably, taken center stage.

    In this environment, purists of the right have a big advantage because nobody doubts the sincerity with which they embrace the goals of limited government, low taxes, and reduced spending.

    Politicians of all stripes, including most Democrats, vow allegiance to them as does the overwhelming majority of the electorate.

    In this environment, the distinctions of left and right give way to the difference between sincerity and insincerity, leaving the voters to judge. With candidates such as Sharron Angle in Nevada or Christine O’Donnell in Delaware or DioGuardi in New York, voters don’t have to guess. They know real conservatives when they see them.

    Of course, Congressman Mike Castle had a big advantage in the Delaware Senate contest because of his name recognition and voter support after having run successfully statewide more than a dozen times (congressmen in Delaware serve at large). But don’t count O’Donnell out.

    She is the real thing: a conservative, small-government devotee whose advocacy of low taxes is sincere and heartfelt. Members of the national Republican establishment were stupid and shortsighted in the negatives they threw at her during the primary. Now they will have to eat their words at great financial and political cost.

    But, in a way, their obduracy gives O’Donnell a great opportunity to run as the anti-establishment candidate, putting a plague on the houses of both parties and calling attention to the corruption of each.

    By separating herself from the Washington Republicans, she is able to embrace the values of small government and low taxes without doubt about the depth of her commitment.

    She is free of party labels and can luxuriate in that liberty.

    For his part, DioGuardi has a very good chance to defeat Kristen Gillibrand. The appointed Democratic senator has not used the primary period, when she had a monopoly of the airwaves, to solidify her incumbency and generate familiarity among voters.

    Now she opens the general election likely at or even below 50 percent of the vote.

    DioGuardi has a great chance to close the gap between them if he can get enough funding. Republicans looking for a lock on the Senate should send him plenty of funding.

    The Republicans running in Wisconsin, California, Illinois, and West Virginia are largely self-funded. It should be possible to concentrate resources on those states where the need is the greatest and if the GOP is smart, Delaware and New York will be high on the list.

  111. How do you leverage Dem corruption with the unfettered power Republicans have had for years and years ruling our government?

    I don’t think that will fly as an excuse for the Dems. With a few exceptions, they have done just as badly if not worse than the R’s. Oh, and the “years and years” of R control is a myth.

    The R’s have held both houses of Congress a total of 6 years since 1945. The Dems have had both houses 22 of those years.
    They don’t get a pass on getting us into this mess.

  112. I am becoming more hostile toward the “Elite” meme. The Right wing uses it a label for “educated, pointed headed librul, out of touch academic, etc. The implication is that education is counter-productive and that “common sense”, “gut’ feelings”, bible, etc. are a more reliable path to truth and solutions. This meme has been very persuasive to get a lot of people to vote against their economic self interest. One only needs to look at the massive wealth redistribution to the upper 1% since the Reagan Revolution and the destruction of the “Middle Class” American Dream.
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    The word elite has more than one connotation. As you suggest, it can be used to vilify people who have achieved a certain measure of success in one field of endeavor or another. And when they are speaking of matters which relate directly to that field then we should listen. We live in a complex society, specialization is required for everything to function, and the mere fact that a lawyer can argue a case before the Supreme Court, is no assurance that he could take treat an astrocytoma. When I use the word elite, I mean primarily the people in that top 1% who would rather skim 23% off the top than worry about what is best for this country. It is a social and an economic elite that I have in mind. I paint with a broad brush knowing that not every member of that group are self serving and non patriotic. Like the figure Pierre Buzukov in Tolstoy’s novel War and Peace, who care about society, and feels that as a member of the nobility he cannot be free until the surfs are free. But that is the exception rather than the rule. What made the greatest generation great is not what Brokaw said about them but the fact that they did not consider themselves better than the rest of society, and were willing to go to war with everyone else and take a soldiers chances as Holmes put it. In that sense they did what the founding fathers did and pledged their lives fortunes and sacred honor to this country. That is not what the elites of today do, meaning once again the people of privilege. Even in a feudal system, rank and responsibility went hand in glove.

  113. When I use the word elite, I mean primarily the people in that top 1% who would rather skim 23% off the top than worry about what is best for this country
    ******
    I agree with that restricted definition…unfortunately when “elites” is used by many politicians and political groups, who in fact are ardent supporters of the 1%, it is dog whistle against the very people who have the tools to ask the “right” questions. It is not in the best interest of either major political party to ask the “right” questions much less propose possible pathways for solutions. If they did, the financial support would be cut-off. Their political viability is based on doing what is best for the 1% and “kicking the can down the road” for the other 99%.

    One recent example is the threat to cut off research funding to scientists who called bullshit on the Obama/BP disinformation campaign. He is another and more serious example of don’t offend the big corps and “kick the can”.

    ” What happened after you published your 2005 report on ‘peak oil’ for the US Department of Energy (DoE) ?

    The people that I was dealing with said : « No more work on peak oil, no more talk about it. »

    People that were high in the administration hierarchy ?

    The people that I was dealing with were high in the laboratory level. They were getting their instructions from people on the political side of the DoE, at high levels.

    After the work we did on the 2005 study and the follow-up of 2006, the Department of Energy headquarters completely cut off all support for oil peaking and decline analysis. The people that I was working with at the National Energy Technology Laboratory were good people, they saw the problem, they saw how difficult the consequences would be – you know, the potential for huge damage – yet they were told : « No more work, no more discussion. »

    That was in 2006, under Bush administration. Has anything changed with the Obama administration ?

    It has not changed. I have friends who simply won’t talk about it now. So I have to assume that they are receiving the same kind of instructions.”

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6965

    Steve

  114. In reading this response bear in mind, I am not defending the Democrats. I am recounting irrefutable facts that have ultimately changed the course of our country during Republican rule. Lest we too soon forget how we got to where we are today in the first place.

    I agree your assessment of the (now) Republican Party has been fair. It’s also fair to distinguish the Republican Neocons from the Conservative/Moderate Republicans which you have just posted bears notice of which I was alluding to in my earlier post. (Gingrich) Has many pluses. He is a great orator, tremendous girth of memory, a giant in historial facts. Only problem with Newt is, when equipted with congressional power, he enjoys using that power to benefit the party, And why I say, He isn’t fit to govern from the highest seat in the land.

    America’s public are finally coming to realize neither of the Clintons are in it for the power, glory or money. As it stands now, both of them do what they do as problem solvers in the best interests of the American people leaving a better world for us than when they found it. I have NEVER heard the words “Peace and Prosperity” attached to our government with a Republican president.
    _________________________

    “But that does not mean they are a priori evil villains, or the architects of our collective demise or that we cannot find some, indeed alot of good in what they espouse.”
    _________________

    Forgetting about the Neo-Cons PNAC Agreement And the Contract with America. Those two policies alone were fermented with the idea of a construct with the Tri-Lateral Commission and of a revolutionary New World Order. All of these plans were made during the beginning (70s) and final days of the Reagan era. BushI laid the foundation in small increments through legislation during his first term in office. It became evident to me Bill Clinton stood in the way of this happening when he was elected in 92′. Bush and the Neo-Cons were in the process of doing to us then.. what is happening to us now. Their whole manifesto was based on breaking the middle class (even) sans Soros.

    Why do you think they raged at Clinton foiling their plans for a complete government takeover and sinking the Middle Class? This was a major turning point in our history. And all the plans for Privatization of Big business’ like Haliburton? Their plan to neutralize Clinton went as follows. Appoint a Special Prosecutor a few years into the Clinton Presidency. The prosecutors sole purpose will be to catch him in Criminal activity. They thought they could catch Clinton and Hillary involved in criminal activity and have the two of them removed from the WH simultaneously.

    While the Impeachment was going on they alleged Gore was Fund Raising on Federal Property (the WH). Special Prosecutor Starr was planning, if you remember correctly, to remove Gore as VP and have him investigated for criminal activity until such time his guilt was ascertained, he could no longer serve as VP and was ineligible to replace Clinton should he be found Guilty during the Impeachment proceedings.

    Newt Gingrich, as Speaker of the House, would naturally be moved up in succession to the presidency thereby regaining the usurped Bush presidency even if it were to be pro-tem. The Republicans had it all planned out…on how they weren’t going to let that spoiler, Bill Clinton, ruin the plans they had worked on for decades. If this wasn’t priori evil; what is/was?

    No, were aren’t talking about granting political favors. Slap on the wrist Tax evasion etc. Without a doubt, The Republicans laid the groundwork for the condition of the economy and the housing collapse by the sheer magnitude and master manipulation consisting of subsequent deletions of legislative safeguards put in place long ago.

    Next, it was shipping jobs and Big Business overseas for cheap labor and avoidance of paying government Taxes.. Which as we realize today, has been successfully accomplished and only added to our spiraling debt. When Clinton left office in 2000, we not only had paid down the national debt to a zero balance but we had a suplus. Eight years of George W. Bush took care of the surplus used for the protection of ME oil and it has been downhill ever since.

  115. *sigh* I get so sick of the idiots on both sides of the aisle that can’t think their way out of a paper box. I’ve been pining since I saw Bill on Stewart for sane, rational govt again.

    Letting the economy and the markets run free, free, FREEEEEE I tell you! is only going to create more disparity. On the other hand, growing govt to massive proportions to no effective ends if also a fiscal disaster.

    Newsflash: During the Clinton years, federal spending fell as a share of GDP, from 21.4 percent in 1993 to 18.5 percent in 2001. Got that, teapartiers? You CAN do sane rational intervention, and enlist govt to solve some problems, without creating a bureaucratic beast.

    And oh, you Obots: giving the govt carte blanche to grow byzantine departments, spend whatever they want, wherever they want, and mostly on their favored banking cronies and re-election slush funds while calling it “stimulus” is not liberalism. Got that? The solution isn’t “The R’s say small govt is good, therefore big govt must be good.” Quit playing the moronic childish opposites game, and pay attention to whether the govt is actually HELPING ANYTHING.

    Jesus Christ on a waffle cone, I want Bill back and Hillary too.

    I know, I know, I’m on an endless whine today, but I want smart , lean, efficient govt again that looks out for all of us. I waaant my Cliintons baaack! Waaaah! 🙁

  116. henry, the only three way poll I’ve seen showed Murkowski pulling more from the Dem candidate than from Miller.

  117. H4T
    So why is she doing it? She has been urged? By whom? I can create a thousand email addresses write a request that she run from the suburbs of pittsburgh and claim to be in Alaska. Has she gotten money since losing and if so from whom?

  118. Jan–I do not think there is any accident that Kissinger would affirm the position of Hillary on the debt. I think her views on most aspects of foreign policy coincide closely with his. I would not be surprised if she relies on him because of his significant experience and the respect he commands within the democratic party.

  119. News Update:

    O’Donnell has canceled her scheduled appearances on Face the Nation and Fox News Sunday. This may be a smat(NE accent)thing for her to do. She needs time for prepping for the questions thrown at her about the baggage she’s carrying.. A new one cropping up is her admission “I Dabbled Into Witchcraft” in 99′(when she was a kid..) Too bad the video is with Bill Maher. See at link…

    http://ace.mu.nu/

  120. correction: when I say she relies on him I do not mean to suggest he is the only source. Obviously Bill is a prime advisor as well. And Hillary of course has a mind of her own. But I see a very close convergence of their views on the middle east, russia and china. And that is a very good thing for the country. We can no longer be the worlds policeman, so some ratcheting down of our role is imperative. We no longer have the economic base to run the show and we need allies more than ever.

    Thank god Kissinger talked about the need to revive manufacturing. Implicit in that suggestion is some form of tariff protection, to protect a fledgling business. It was under his party that the country made the dramatic shift away from manufacturing so it is only right that he should speak up on the subject.

  121. JanH
    September 18th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Thanks, JanH. It’s all True.

    Imagine how much Clinton could have done for us if he didn’t have to govern with one hand tied behind his back defending himself and running a country.

  122. This may be a smat(NE accent)thing for her to do. She needs time for prepping for the questions thrown at her about the baggage she’s carrying
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    Correct Mrs. Smith. She should avoid Face The Nation, Meet The Press or Step and fetch it. They are looking for a quick kill that they can parade before their peers. They will do the same thing to her that they did to Palin and Rand Paul. If she feels the need to go on national television–frankly I cannot see why, but if she does, then go on FOX where they will give her a chance to state her position, rather than the other stations where she will be attacked by duplicitous piranhas.

  123. Mrs. Smith, I am shaking my head over that “dabbled in withcraft” thing. Keep it up, Dems. You are heading for disaster.

    This is ridiculous. Going after trivial crap like some 20-something confessing to dabbling in all sorts of things is only going to backfire.

    Most people are going to think, “Yeah, I did ditzy crap in college as well. I was a devoted goth for awhile, and also consulted a psychic and got all chilled and freaked out over it. My friends and I tried to do a seance once. So? Sounds like an ordinary person to me.”

    IOW, yeah, it’s a little ditzy and weird and experimental. From over a decade ago, talking about an even EARLIER time in her life. When she was pretty young. On a date with a weird guy, no less.

    This will give gleeful ammunition to those already determined that she’s nuts, nuts, WACKO! To the undecided it will make them feel empathy for this perfectly average and ordinary, if not particularly accomplished, young woman. Go ahead, go the “she’s a nut and a slut” route rather than attacking policies. That worked real well on Palin.

  124. wbboei

    I love the respect Hillary and Kissinger have for each other.

    More and more we see Hillary running circles around obama. She is the only good thing to come out of this mess.

  125. I posted this on RD about the whole O’Donnell/teaparty thing, but I’m sharing it here too:

    I’m so mad at how badly the Dems are handling all of this that I could just scream. And it’s not just O’Donnell, it’s their overall strategy, but she is a perfect example of it.

    Case in point: Castle tried the personal attacks on her. It’s why he lost. Here were a couple of them: He accused her of lying about saying she graduated from college in ’94 or something. Ooooo, she LIED! It turns out that she did indeed finish the program that year, and completed all requirements. But she still owed the school a couple thousand bucks. So they held her diploma for like 2 years until she paid it off. Scandalous! Liar! Of course, the voters, who have had many financial troubles of their own, entirely understood how that could happen, and sympathized, and thought Castle was a real DICK for denigrating the poor woman for perhaps not divulging every detail of her difficulty with getting the piece of paper in hand. She had earned the degree, she just had no money.

    Second example: Oooooo, she had a tax lien, Castle said! The IRS came after her! Look, this works as an attack on an ordinary politician of comfortable means. A politician with money (as most have) can have questions raised about their honesty and their proclivity to cheat if there are IRS problems. It does not, however, work when the person in question only made SIXTEEN F**KING THOUSAND DOLLARS in the year in question. She was BROKE, you turds. Maybe she reduced her withholding to buy groceries, then ended up in the hole, whatever. That kind of attack DOES NOT WORK on this sort of candidate.

    Of course the geniuses in the Dem party think that it’s different for the general election. That was the conventional wisdom of the past. It didn’t work for the primaries, but it will work for the general. WRONG.
    They have their heads too far up their asses to comprehend that the teapartiers have completely changed the rules of the game on them, in a political emotional landscape that is ENTIRELY different from the past. “Oh, my!” they titter, “these people are nominating inexperienced, not particularly bright yokels for public office. How droll!” Yep. They sure are. And if you go about attacking them in the same way you’ve always attacked all R politicians, you are going to get your ass handed to you on a platter in November.

    You are going to have to attack the POLICIES. You are going to have to attack the philosophy of governing. Because if you don’t, if all you do is go after their bumpkin-ness, their icky laughable outre-ness, then you are DEAD. You hear me, Dems? DEAD. You will have succeeded in making this election all about Stupid Rube Average Little Guy vs. We Who Know Best. And on that ground, you LOSE. They are counting on it. You don’t go meet the enemy on the ground THEY have chosen.

    My God, I cannot believe how F*CKING stupid the Dem political class can be. They are destroying any legacy left by JFK, by Bobby, by Bill, of the democratic party being the working class, average guy party. Are they INSANE?? I need a damn drink.

  126. SHV
    September 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
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    Agreed. It is especially bad the way the elites as defined above use the endowment process as a way to suppress free speech by professors. I saw this in the cattle industry where professors from Texas A&M would tell you one thing privately and another when you asked them to testify. And in the case of Obama, when the Saudi’s endow three chairs at Harvard and they write a letter of recommendation for Obama it is not hard to see how he gets admitted with what probably were mediocre undergraduate grades and test scores, and how he became editor of the Law Review, but unlike every other editor of that journal for the past hundred years failed to publish an article of his own. Obviously, his ghost writer was otherwise detained. At that point, Bill the Bomber was still a fugitive from justice so perhaps that explains it.

  127. H4T:

    Mrs. Smith, I am shaking my head over that “dabbled in withcraft” thing. Keep it up, Dems. You are heading for disaster.
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    O’Donnell is a Republican.

  128. Mrs Smith, I know she’s a republican. Read my long rant above. Attacking crap like that is going to hand the election to her.

  129. Mrs Smith, I know she’s a republican. Read my long rant above. Attacking crap like that is going to hand the election to her.
    ____________________________

    I’m more upset at Bill Maher’s threat of playing videos showcasing her petulant, foolish past everyday until she agrees to come on his show. He is the epitome of
    a an Obama suck up! Maybe she can attract a strong case of laryngitis and be unable to speak for at least a month.

  130. My God, I cannot believe how F*CKING stupid the Dem political class can be. They are destroying any legacy left by JFK, by Bobby, by Bill, of the democratic party being the working class, average guy party. Are they INSANE?? I need a damn drink.
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    I think it is more than stupid. Mules are stupid. These folks are suicidal–AND THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW IT. They have ceded the playing field to other party. Kaine gives us that mongoloid grin and produces a yellow plastic key chain that says don’t give the keys to the people who drove the car into the ditch. Wow. First that, and then the new logo. How shrewd. How clever. How about this for a rebuttal. We are better off in a ditch than in a cold river where we drown and the driver swims away to safety and buys his way out of a negligent manslaughter charge. Of course I am only speaking metaphorically.

  131. My God, I cannot believe how F*CKING stupid the Dem political class can be.
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    From the mid ’70’s until 1992 I would regard myself as apolitical, but since the rise of the Clintons to national prominence I’ve been paying attention and from that time forward it is my opinion that Republicans understand their members much more clearly than the Dems understand theirs. It’s the only way I can explain how they managed to sell GWB twice. They absolutely knew what they could get away with.

  132. HillaryforTexas, you are soooo RIGHT!!!! The more they attack her, the more I like her. And I am more like her than Castle, the Kennedys, or Bill Maher for that matter. I disagree with Rove; she just needs to use everything ‘he’ says against her and bounce it back at him. Perhaps someone could intervene like Bill did for Hillary and ask him why in the hell is he picking on the ‘little woman?” Now, would that not be refreshing? “They” have picked on and bullied too many women; this time they do it at their own peril. At least, IMHO.

  133. Barney Frank is in trouble too. He’s calling in Bill Clinton to save him. Didn’t the “creative class” say only Blue Dogs were in trouble?

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1282303

    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank – suddenly the target of an energized GOP and a hard-charging young opponent – has called in Bill Clinton for a Bubba Bailout in an apparent sign that one of the Bay State’s safest congressional seats may not be immune from voters’ throw-the-bums-out rage.

    Both Democratic and Republican observers acknowledge Frank might need big guns in this dreaded turnover year, but the 30-year veteran congressman insisted it’s just politics as usual.

    “It’s called campaigning. I’m trying to win an election and that’s what you do in campaigns. You do it to get votes,” Frank fumed yesterday. “If I campaign effectively, that means I’m scared, but if I don’t campaign, that means I’m arrogant.

    “Would you ask people why they buy TV ads?” Frank added. “Are you supposed to campaign ineffectively? Should I bring in unpopular people to campaign?“

    Clinton will stump for Frank in Taunton Sept. 26. Frank said the former president offered to help him out. Frank mulled it over and took him up on it: “Bill Clinton is a very admired figure. He will tell people what he admires in me. Every elected official should campaign hard.”

    Frank’s challenger, Sean Bielat, a little-known Brookline Republican with just $228,000 in his war chest to Frank’s $2.4 million, said, “Calling in Bill Clinton, a former president of the United States, to stump for you is a pretty desperate move for a guy who has been elected 14 times already and who has a 10-times advantage in fundraising . . .

    “It’s like David and Goliath, and Goliath just got a tag team from his older brother,” Bielat said. He issued a statement saying the Clinton move shows Frank is “running scared.” [snip]

    Greater Boston Tea Party President Christen Taylor said it “means he thinks he can lose.”

    “This means he’s campaigning for the first time in 20-something years . . . Conventional wisdom is out the door,” she said, adding she believes Bielat will draw independent voters like Scott Brown did.

    Democratic consultant Michael Shea said Frank “understands politics better than most. Like the rest of us, he saw what happened in the senatorial election, with Coakley versus Brown . . . He’s going to pull out all the stops and do whatever it takes to win.”

    Attorney General Martha Coakley – who lost the late Ted Kennedy’s seat to Brown in January in part by failing to campaign enough – said: “All incumbents and challengers know that everybody running for office needs to run hard. I certainly know that as well or better than anyone.”

  134. admin:

    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank – suddenly the target of an energized GOP and a hard-charging young opponent – has called in Bill Clinton for a Bubba Bailout in an apparent sign that one of the Bay State’s safest congressional seats may not be immune from voters’ throw-the-bums-out rage.

    Greater Boston Tea Party President Christen Taylor said it “means he thinks he can lose.”

    “This means he’s campaigning for the first time in 20-something years . . . Conventional wisdom is out the door,” she said, adding she believes Bielat will draw independent voters like Scott Brown did.
    __________________________________

    Wonderful news, admin- I hope BC will touch on the job done by Barney Frank and Maxine Waters with the FHA, Freddiemac and FannyMae.

    The two of them are the new new party labeled Corruptocrats..

    Bielat’s Anti-Frank Video: (funny hearing Frank’s flip-flops in his own words.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC88oox9TBo&feature=player_embedded

    I have another link coming from Michelle Malkin I’ll post regarding Barney’s foibles.

  135. Boot Barney Frank: Support GOP challenger Sean Bielat

    His name is Sean Bielat. He’s a businessman. He’s a Marine. He’s a young father fed up with “systemic corruption” in arrogant Washington. He opposes cap-and-tax, will fight other oppressive Obama eco-policies that are squeezing fishermen, supports a strong national defense, and believes “It’s time for our leaders to return to and abide by the Constitution.” He launched a RetireBarney campaign back in April. Bielat’s latest campaign ad roasts Frank for his recent Fannie-Freddie flip.
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    Sounds like a nice guy to me…

    http://michellemalkin.com/2010/08/30/boot-barney-frank-support-gop-challenger-sean-bielat/

  136. So the media would have you believe no-one likes Sarah Palin…….well, they laugh at her at their peril, she is building up a wealth of goodwill out in the country.

    Palin draws record crowd [Iowa GOP’s Reagan Dinner]

    Des Moines — Former Alaska Governor and Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin drew over 1,400 Iowa Republicans to the party’s annual Reagan Dinner in Des Moines Friday night. This is the largest crowd the event has seen.

    The face of the new Republican party, after wishing everyone a happy Constitution Day and Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley a happy birthday, got the excitement going early. She had fun at the media’s expense, saying her husband, Todd, warned her not to put on her running shoes while staying in Des Moines. They wanted to avoid the headline of “Palin decides to run in Iowa.”

    Palin’s criticism of the media appeared later in the speech as well. She chastised organizations such as Wikileaks for putting American soldiers in jeopardy. A broader charge was levied against other, traditional media outlets for using “anonymous sources” when reporting stories that show America and Americans in a bad light.

    “They are gutless,” Palin said of journalists who use anonymous sources. The sources themselves also lack courage, Palin said. Otherwise, they would stand behind what they say, and allow the public to know who they are. The reaction from the press pool, overall, was not nearly as positive as the roar of the Republicans seated at the tables in the room.

    Overall, Palin’s discussion of the media highlighted a need for responsibility and truth. These are essential to journalists’ rights of freedom of the press. Palin added that it is “unfair” to the public for journalists to report anything but the truth.

    Palin said conservatives need to be dispatched around America to spread the time-tested truths of America. She said there is no need to wait for the political playbook from party elites to begin giving voters the conservative message.

    “It’s the voters who will stop these leftist politicians,” Palin said. “It is the patriots that will restore America.”

    Palin criticized President Obama and many of his policies. She responded to claims Obama made at Democrat fund raiser that if he says an undeniable fact, such as “the sky is blue,” Republicans would say the opposite. Palin stood in front of the crowd and said, “Yes, the sky is blue” to mock him.

    Her next jab against Obama was the President’s proposals to offer tax credits for businesses when they purchase equipment. She said she liked it the first time when the proposal was part of the McCain-Palin platform in 2008.

    “Let small business owners keep more of what they earn,” Palin said. “The free market works.”

    Palin questioned whether or not Obama’s continued pursuit of “failed policies” were intentional. She accused the President of believing there is nothing exceptional about America or its people. To her, the President’s decision to invite America’s enemies, such as Iran’s Ahmadinjad, to the country while ignoring allies such as Israel and England, have been the wrong moves.

    “That’s just foolish,” she said.

    Living up to the name of the event, the Reagan Dinner, videos were shown of some of the 40th President’s most memorable quotes. Palin also paid tribute to Reagan, saying he encouraged our allies and believed in the greatness of America and her people. She urged attendees to renew and restore America’s values.

    “Americans are working hard to get our country back on track,” Palin said.

    The ideals of the Tea Party movement, such as limited government, the right to life and low taxes, were encouraged by Palin. Each time she mentioned one of these issues, it was met with applause. This may demonstrate there is not a split in the Republican Party, at least not in Iowa.

    Palin closed her keynote speech by encouraging voters to cast ballots for candidates who have the courage to fight for the things they believe in. Palin has endorsed two Republicans seeking statewide office in Iowa, gubernatorial candidate Terry Branstad and attorney general candidate Brenna Findley.

    “They’re in this for the right reasons,” Palin said. “Freedom is a God-given right and it’s worth fighting for.”

  137. Mrs. Smith
    September 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Thank you for posting that. I am heading right to that cite to donate to this young former marine right now.

    my wife and I are livid that what they are doing to O’Donnell. Heck, I am not even a fan but I want her to win. I’m sorry to be cursing, but are the F**king kidding me??? they are going to go after her for what she said years ago about something she said she “dabbled” in, when Mr.Waffles “dabbled” in drugs, which pictures to prove it, and forget the press asking about the fraud about this… THEY HID THIS FROM THE PUBLIC!

    I and my wife are all in rooting for O’Donnell. Looks like there are men on both sides are are terrified of women in power, or more like women who cannot be controlled and have their own mind.

    and now they are concerned about her? where the hell where these fools who called every person a racist anyone who even scratched the surface of the fraud, are they f**king kidding me??
    So, the woman struggled, this is EVERY AVERAGE AMERICAN! and this party of the “common” man is now going to go after her for this?!
    Flush the toilet on the “democratic” party, its done, these people are elist no-nothing frauds.

    As for Bill Maher, the man is scum. pure scum.

  138. so looks like O’Donnell cancelled her interviews, that is good news! They are nothing but elitist hacks anyways. She need to focus on DE, and that it, maybe do a couple of interviews on Fox and talk radio. And go around DE, the state is so small, she could literally go to every town a few times in these 6 weeks.

    Glad she already has gotten advise to not trust any of these Obama-media elitists.

  139. HillaryforTexas
    September 18th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    And it’s not just O’Donnell, it’s their overall strategy, but she is a perfect example of it.

    Case in point: Castle tried the personal attacks on her. It’s why he lost. Here were a couple of them: He accused her of lying about saying she graduated from college in ’94 or something. Ooooo, she LIED! It turns out that she did indeed finish the program that year, and completed all requirements. But she still owed the school a couple thousand bucks. So they held her diploma for like 2 years until she paid it off. Scandalous! Liar! Of course, the voters, who have had many financial troubles of their own, entirely understood how that could happen, and sympathized, and thought Castle was a real DICK for denigrating the poor woman for perhaps not divulging every detail of her difficulty with getting the piece of paper in hand. She had earned the degree, she just had no money.

    Second example: Oooooo, she had a tax lien, Castle said! The IRS came after her! Look, this works as an attack on an ordinary politician of comfortable means.

    ==============

    BRAVO! Agree! The people who use this kind of personal nitpicking attacks deserve to lose, just to discourage this kind of attack, regardless of the quality of the target.

    It’s been done to Palin, Angle, the Clintons, Gore, Joe the Plumber, now Rauf.

  140. Just back from getting some sushi with hubby. Thanks all for the bravos for the rant. Some days I just have to get it off my chest. As much as we’ve all seen this coming a mile away, it still frustrates me to see the Democratic Party do this.

  141. #
    tim
    September 18th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    so looks like O’Donnell cancelled her interviews, that is good news! They are nothing but elitist hacks anyways. She need to focus on DE, and that it, maybe do a couple of interviews on Fox and talk radio. And go around DE, the state is so small, she could literally go to every town a few times in these 6 weeks.

    Glad she already has gotten advise to not trust any of these Obama-media elitists.
    _____________________________

    The media is hungry for fresh red meat and O’Donnell is their next bill of fare. I agree with H4T and think this will all backfire on the Dems, compliments of Big Media. Mom used to say, when they are talking (picking on) about you, just think, someone else is getting a rest. Ha! 😉

    Good vibes from Scott Bielat- I hope he cleans Barney Frank’s clock in November. ooh-rah
    Deval Patrick has got to go next down the rabbit hole.

  142. Their plan to neutralize Clinton went as follows. Appoint a Special Prosecutor a few years into the Clinton Presidency. The prosecutors sole purpose will be to catch him in Criminal activity. They thought they could catch Clinton and Hillary involved in criminal activity and have the two of them removed from the WH simultaneously.

    While the Impeachment was going on they alleged Gore was Fund Raising on Federal Property (the WH). Special Prosecutor Starr was planning, if you remember correctly, to remove Gore as VP and have him investigated for criminal activity until such time his guilt was ascertained, he could no longer serve as VP and was ineligible to replace Clinton should he be found Guilty during the Impeachment proceedings.

    Newt Gingrich, as Speaker of the House, would naturally be move==up in succession to the presidency

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    Yep, that’s about right.

    I’m all for tolerating or ‘forgiving’ weakness, mistakes,snubs, or even backing the wrong candidate in the 2008 primary. But Gingrich and the impeachers should never be trusted or given a moment’s credibility. (Nor Morris etc.)

  143. so looks like O’Donnell cancelled her interviews, that is good news! They are nothing but elitist hacks anyways. She need to focus on DE, and that it, maybe do a couple of interviews on Fox and talk radio.

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    Probably a good move. Maybe she should use Facebook and Twitter instead.

    So what’s going on with Rand Paul now?

  144. turndownobama
    September 18th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Even better. Bob Dole’s WaterGate apt backed up to Monica Lewinski’s apt. They shared and inside wall. Coincidence? Sure, in another life maybe. I remember distinctly, we were the laughing stock heading lining front-page newspapers worldwide when the Republicans announced finally, BC was caught getting a BJ in the WH. Oh, the horror… BC Impeached because he isn’t busy sucking the blood out of the country like the connivers do so well.

  145. turndown, the last poll I saw about a week ago had Rand Paul up by 15 points. Also, he was getting 37% of the black vote and about a third of the Dem vote.

    A libertarian-leaning R candidate getting 37% of the black vote is HUGE. KY must be really pissed off and fed up.

  146. Very unfortunate that some are twisting themselves into contortions trying to defend the indefensible O’Donnell. The bottom line is she was and is a terribly bad candidate. People are sounding like Obots claiming that her shady past, lies, and lack of qualifications don’t matter. Shades of 2008.

    She lied about graduating from college — she did not get her diploma until two weeks before the election. She has been caught in lies in multiple interviews. Dabbling in witchcraft? That should play well in Delaware.

    It’s rather unfortunate that Obamacrats will try to make her the face of the tea party when they have nominated some very strong candidates. Goes to show you that one major slip-up can wreak havoc with a good thing. O’Donnell is selling Kool Aid. Will not be partaking, thank you very much.

    At any rate, Republicans should focus their energies on picking up other seats. They can still get a majority, but Delaware is a wash.

  147. DefiantOne, I was not defending her as a candidate. I was saying that as a strategy, the types of attacks that are coming out on her from the Dems is a very very bad idea. I never said her faults and inexperience didn’t matter when it comes to governing – just that the Dems are focusing on the wrong things if they want to beat her.

    Please learn to differentiate between objective strategy analysis as far as how joe-average-voter might view the attacks on her, and “defense of the indefensible”. They are not the same thing.

  148. I was not defending [O’Donnell] as a candidate. I was saying that as a strategy, the types of attacks that are coming out on her from the Dems is a very very bad idea.

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    There’s been a similar misunderstanding coming up lately.

    X posts: “Tweedledum and Tweeledee have both been attacked with cream pies.”

    Y replies: “Tweedledum is no Tweedledee! Their experience, qualifications, etc are totallly different!”

    That is not the point. The point is the cream pies.

    And it’s not much better to say “But one was chocolate cream pie and the other was tomatoe.” Th point is similarity of the attacks (or in H’s case unwisdom of the attacks).

  149. Michelle Malkin has a few thoughts to offer on the witchcraft thing folks…

    the media and current powers that be will treat O’Donnell like they did palin and crawl up her shorts looking for the next big story about an unqualified candidate.

    the harder they yell and scream the stronger her chances are…

    I dont believe a word that the MSM says/prints anymore…. and that bill maher guy is a total bullying scumbag

    mrks

    Bill Maher’s witch hunt — and the missing context for O’Donnell’s remarks
    By Michelle Malkin • September 18, 2010 10:55 PM

    Narcissism. Blackmail. Distortion. All wrapped in his trademark smirk of pallor. Yes, it’s tired old liberal “comedian” Bill Maher trying to get Senate GOP primary candidate Christine O’Donnell to come on his show by baiting her with a brief video clip in which she mentions having “dabbled” in “witchcraft” and hung around people who practiced it.
    The left-wing blogs (and a few short-sighted rightie ones) are having a field day. What they all seem to have missed is the context for the discussion. The AP says the “context of what led to the comment is not clear.”
    But it is if you paid close attention to the clip:

    At 1:03 in the video, one of the panelists on the show criticizes O’Donnell for criticizing Halloween — “Wait a minute, I love this, you’re a witch, you go ‘Halloween is bad,’ I’m not the witch, I mean wait a minute.” She responds by explaining that she opposes witchcraft because she has had first-hand experience with what they do.
    So, she tried it. She rejected it. And she learned from it.
    Somehow, this Maher-edited clip (which was never aired on TV, by the way) warrants a declaration from my friend John Hinderaker at Power Line that O’Donnell’s career is “RIP.”
    Nonsense. She has nothing to be ashamed of — except, perhaps, for going on Maher’s show so many times. He promises to release 22 more clips until she sits down with him in front of the cameras and brags, in typical TV chauvinist fashion, that he “created her” and that she “owe[s]” him.
    Ignore the Hollywood attention troll. Focus on the campaign, the voters of Delaware, and the bearded Marxist opponent who’s the real out-of-touch extremist in the race.

  150. 1. BAGHDAD (AP) — Two car bombs exploded in Baghdad Sunday morning as commuters were starting their work week, killing at least 23 people and wounding dozens of others, Iraqi officials said.
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/19/car-bomb-kills-western-baghdad-says-iraqi-army-official/?test=latestnews
    2. Could O have heard us discussing Hillary’s poetry/prose statement? At his black-tie last night he said “It’s not the man; it’s the plan.”
    3. TV still running with ‘the Republican party is split’ story. Have yet to mention the nearly 3 year split in Dem party.

  151. Defiant One
    How many do you suppose have even a tincture of character.
    Defensive O’Donnell is as justified as the defense of any member of the elite 100. Rarely has one vgoted against their party. Sh e will get another 50 from me today as at least she is making the R’s think about their collective vote.

  152. Morning All: Got my lawn cut and also a good nights sleep.For me they go hand in hand.Next comes relaxation as I watch anything on TV that concerns Hill and Bill and is not insulting.Then the real rest stop comes up on the tube.

    The Steelers vs The Titans

    Remember my friends our real goals are.

    “DRAFT HILLARY”
    “IMPEACH the LEECH”

    By ABM92 Senior Commenyator

  153. basil9
    Mowing the lawn is second only to vacuuming in the worst household jobs. Bought a robot to handle one, and local retiree for the latter. Cheaper to pay someone as I cut the dang cord every time.

  154. I’m all for tolerating or ‘forgiving’ weakness, mistakes,snubs, or even backing the wrong candidate in the 2008 primary
    ——————————————-
    turndown: as you look ahead to 2012, if the only choice were the man who is fiddling while Rome burns or one of the impeachers, how would you vote, or would you? For me that is an easy question. I have my vendettas too, but the real question is who can fix the economy and Bambi is no more capable of doing that than Bush. The question is purely hypothetical unless Gingrich throws his hat in the ring. In that case, you and million of others would have to decide what to do. (This assumes of course that Hillary does not run, which we of course hope is wrong). You say you would never vote for Gingrich for the reasons discussed. In that case, would you vote for the man who knifed Hillary, i.e. Obama, or would you stay home knowing that it could result in the election of the man who knifed Bill? It seems to me that the vendetta criterion it does not answer the question. So how would you solve that conundrum?

  155. What is with Obama? He looks emaciated (esp standing next to his wife). Is he sick?

    http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DawJTCHuL3c/TJYasVvek0I/AAAAAAAAHlI/2R0IFMFfZ2s/s1600-h/redguns%5B6%5D.jpg

    He and his WH reading blogs may be true. Otherwise how will he kill time? He is not sitting there thinking/reading/consulting people (like Bill Clinton who said he still does that) to find solutions to our financial woes. There was no talk of basketball for a long time and then Hillbuz wrote how the WH doesn’t talk about it anymore and lo and behold, in the last week, several pictures of him and his Love on a basketball outing. And her boob belt is gone too (well, in the picture above, it is ’embedded’.. they must be reading a certain other blog, 😉

  156. henry,

    I’m domestically challenged, myself, and that extends to yard work but god bless anyone who can get 2 acres mowed at age 92. It probably contributes to longevity!

  157. New day, same garbage. The talks will go nowhere…unless…Israel gives away everything but the kitchen sink (as bambi wants) and the Arabs give away nothing.

    Arab League refuses to recognize Israel as Jewish state

    17/09/2010

    BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo on Thursday decided to reject a demand made by Israel, asking Palestinian negotiators recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

    In a statement issued after the meeting, the Arab League supported President Mahmoud Abbas’ refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Palestinian negotiators have recognized Israel’s right to exist, but not as a Jewish state, which officials say would prejudice the right of return for refugees and violate the rights of Israel’s non-Jewish residents.

    Following the meeting of the Arab League, Secretary General Amr Moussa said Israeli-Palestinian peace talks could not continue if Israel did not stop building settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories.

    Palestinian negotiators have said they would walk out of talks if Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not extend a ban restricting settlement construction, due to expire later at the end of September.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=315642

  158. Fat Elvis (and why conservative republicans are toppling establishment respublicans, but you also need to give Obama the credit he deserves. Establishment repulicans are more inclined to follow bambi down the yellow brick road, whereas conservatives do no think that is such a good idea. My surmise is that the party is moving away from the old guard and in the direction of the young guns, meaning cantor of virgina, ryan of wisconsin and rubio of florida (if he makes it). If you add the firebrands it would also include Michelle Bachman inter alia. These people are well positioned to lead a revolt against Obama, and I doubt they would touch social security. The Republicans who want to do that are those who are tied to Wall Street like Gingrich, Bush or Bambi. This gotterdammerung is from No Quarter:
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    Newt Gingrich is back, lecturing the timid Republican leadership on how to win the fall. John Batchelor on why they put up with it
    .
    Newt Gingrich spoke to a closed-door breakfast of the Republicans of the House the other day after the last primaries, and the irony you need to know is that the only members who showed up were the clueless Boehner crew, who are not in on the joke that in the GOP cloakroom they call Newt “Fat Elvis.”

    The young House members have spent the last four years living under siege from the Democratic battalions while their ranks thinned and their cash dwindled, and all the while Newt Gingrich was in the pulpit of Fox News castigating them for their gutlessness. The young remember the scoldings and the sermons, and, much like a child who grew up to be a star athlete, they resent having been kicked by Grandpa Gingrich when they were helpless–and yet they are not yet ready to belt back at him now that he comes preening to show how much he loves them.

    “The young people who have no ties to him,” an observer explains of Gingrich, “they think, what an asshole.”
    Does Gingrich notice that the young do not turn up to celebrate his wisdom? Not much, because Gingrich wanted only the obeisance of being feted at the breakfast as a “special guest,” so he could go on Fox News to boast, as one indifferent observer put it, that “I addressed the House Republicans, and they need me.” Last Wednesday, Gingrich filled the cozy audience’s time by dispensing cookie-cutter advice such as, you should have more than $50,000 in your NRCC account if you’re serious about the majority; and such as the Gingrich genius, “Any of you who think this is locked doesn’t get it.”

    The more useful question than why Gingrich lays himself out for ridicule by the young and restless (and it is likely he hears the snickers when he walks in) is why do Minority Leader John Boehner and his leadership team put up with a busybody?

    “You appease Newt,” a Republican concludes, reminding me again that John Boehner and his “Young Guns” are all conflict-averse, “and then he won’t say bad things about you on TV.”

    “The young people who have no ties to him,” an observer explains of Gingrich, “they think, what an asshole.”

    Gingrich has been emailing House members for years with his searing advice and grandiloquent concepts, and everyone is mostly used to the fact that Boehner puts up with it just as if he was still Newt’s waterboy and bagman from 1995, handing out Big Tobacco checks to good soldiers on the floor of the House. In sum, Boehner is not afraid of Newt, but then again he acts as if he is beholden in the way of a co-dependent dealing with an abusive and cranky older relative.
    The best description for this strange family arrangement follows along the satirical description of Gingrich as the “Fat Elvis” of the Republican Party. A wag in the cloakroom observes of Gingrich, “He’s turned Boehner and Cantor into Red and Sonny”–a reference to Red and Sonny West, the Elvis bodyguards during the years of drug abuse, who were charged with fetching Presley’s banana sandwiches and cleaning up after his rampages. “It’s [Gingrich’s] self-satire.”

    Boehner and Cantor are both suffering the same sort of open mockery as Gingrich from the young House members, and they endure it with flustered dignity. The GOP House is not a dysfunctional family; it is better understood, according to a disgusted member, as “6-year-olds on a sugar high.”

    The imminent wave election prospect has deeply rattled Boehner–as well as the self-promoting trio calling themselves “Young Guns,” Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, and Paul Ryan. A wise ally who has watched this transformation comments on the peculiar phenomenon of how the GOP House leaders are trying to explain their suddenly rosy future to the media and to the donors: “The beauty of what they’re going through is that they have nothing to do with the success, but they don’t know it.”

    The snickering fiasco of the Gingrich breakfast is an aspect of this quandary. The Republicans are like lads holding a winning lottery ticket, yet are seeking philosophical reasons for their unearned riches before they cash the check. By standing in front of Gingrich, Boehner and the Young Guns hope they will be associated with a golden age of Republicanism. At the same time, Boehner makes the same boneheaded mistakes as before, such as when he went on national television last Sunday and goofed on the tax-cut question.

    At the breakfast, after Gingrich cast his pearls, Boehner–who hails the former speaker with a hearty “Newt!”–spent many tense moments trying to explain to the bored audience how he didn’t mean what he said about voting for the president’s tax hike if it was the only choice he was offered, and that the rascally media had twisted his words. The audience tsk-tsked in sympathy. The conference is understanding of Boehner, because everyone knows, from the elderly to the puppies, that John Boehner will say anything any time that keeps him from feeling unwelcome.

    Boehner’s personal foible of fear of conflict, his yearning for comity regardless of incoherence, is the door that is always open to the bullying Gingrich–who is genuinely self-hypnotized to believe he is presidential timber. The next excitement for the House members is that Boehner promises a document, “America Speaks Out,” that is constructed by the footman Kevin McCarthy to represent the email suggestions of tens of thousands of Republicans. Boehner hopes to imitate the “Contract With America” that he helped Gingrich write back in 1994 and that Gingrich has been using as a carte blanche ever since to get what he wants from the GOP.

    Another sturdy Republican comments with a great deal of irony of the lavish bedlam at the baronial National Republican Club of Capitol Hill, “The Capitol Hill Club is swarming with donors and lobbyists. The DCCC is a graveyard. What’s that tell you?” What it describes is a wave election that is so far advanced that the hapless surfers in the House cannot do anything too self-ridiculing, not even using Newt for a surfboard, to stop it.

  159. The invention of the internet, and the following of news, utube,itunes, and electronic books have change the earnings of people who profited from those areas dramatically. While I don’t like to see people below the poverty level, I have often found that people in these areas were paid far too much for what they do in proportion to other areas of the work environment. I especially feel that CEOs and their staff with the wonder golden parachutes and bonuses, whether they do well or fail out of line with the rest of the workforce. I think some of that is beginning to change.

  160. This was a good read, thought others might enjoy.

    Vail Valley Voices: Hillary for president

    What you are about to read may be one of the most ironic things I have ever written in my life. My friends will certainly be shocked by it.

    Candidly, I was vehemently opposed to Hillary Clinton during the 2008 primaries. At the time, I wasn’t really enamored by any of the candidates, but believed the defeat of Clinton (and hopefully the end of the Clinton era) was the most important aspect of the presidential campaign.

    I was against Clinton for a plethora of reasons. Most importantly, I didn’t want Bill Clinton to return to power, even indirectly, after all of the scandal and drama of his administration.

    I didn’t believe that Hillary was qualified to be our chief executive. She was a senator for two years and her most important experience was that she was the wife of a sitting president (a horribly overrated fact).

    And finally, Hillary thought she was entitled to be president by some higher authority (her husband). I couldn’t deal with all of the talk of dynasty.

    So, when Obama won the primaries, I was ecstatic. In fact, I said to many of my friends at the time that Hillary’s defeat was the most important event of the presidential campaign.

    Well, a lot’s happened since November 2008, and most of it’s bad. Obama isn’t what the American voters bargained for. In fact, his lack of experience and his poor choice of advisors, coupled with an arrogant and fiercely partisan demeanor has been bad for our country.

    He managed to pass an ineffectual economic stimulus package, a terrible health care reform bill, and an empty financial law while ignoring the most important issue in America- unemployment. I suppose he was more focused on accomplishments that would enhance his legacy.

    Someone recently said to me that Obama’s foreign policies are 80-90% Bush/Cheney. This person is absolutely correct.

    Obama has not closed Gitmo after making it one of his most important issues during the campaign. And, he has adopted the Bush/Cheney “secrecy” mentality to “protect national security”.

    He “ended” the war in Iraq, but is leaving 50,000 troops in harm’s way for the foreseeable future. He’s increased our exposure in Afghanistan, a senseless operation that will, likely, end horribly.

    And, the status of the U.S. globally, after an initial bump, is right back to where it was with Bush.

    Back to Hillary. During the past two years, she has gained invaluable on-the-job experience as Secretary of State. In fact, her accomplishments dwarf the rest of the administration. Her latest breakthrough was to bring together the Palestinians and the Israelis.

    I’m convinced Clinton is a much better person to be in the White House than Obama. She has distinguished herself away from her husband and has been loyal to the president until now.

    It’s mindboggling to think that a cabinet member of an administration would oppose an incumbent president. But, what the heck? It’s the 21st Century.

    So, after the Democrats are annihilated in the November congressional elections, Hillary should resign as Secretary of State and oppose Obama in the Democratic primaries.

    And, you know what? She will win the primaries and be the next president ofthe United States. There’s no doubt in my mind that the Democratic Party will embrace her after all the damage done by the Obama administration.

    I would ask you one question, “Do you really think Obama will win the next presidential election?” If not, and you are a Democrat, get on the Hillary bandwagon.

    I’m not the first person to bring up this seemingly far-fetched suggestion. But, you just wait. After November, many people will be clamoring for Hillary.

  161. Obama was a marketing decision from the very get go. The string pullers reckoned that now was the time to reinvent Camelot, with a multi racial protagonist. This was a poor marketing decision. With the country on the verge of financial collapse, this was hardly the time to roll out the red carpet and trip the light fantastic. You might win an election by doing that sort of thing, but given the character issues, the experience deficit, the euphoria was destined to be short lived. You can keep it alive for awhile, through false reports of glorious victory, but sooner or later reality intervenes, people feel the effects in their daily lives and the whole propaganda machine comes crashing down. The catalyst for this will be the November elections. But that is only the beginning, because I am not sure the public as a whole really gets it, even now. My concern is that the Obama press will continue to pound the tea parties are evil drum, just like they pounded the Hillary is polarizing drum or the weapons of mass destruction drum and the rubes will stampede like a herd of cattle. But in the long run, he will continue fuck off and fail. That will be his legacy.

  162. Mrs.Smith

    May I ask that if you come to Dallas to vist your son that you ask me to lunch as well. It would be a privillage to spend time with others that think along the same lines as I do.

    Lisaque

  163. Fifth Dimension: thank you for teeing this one up. The writer would have us believe that he or she has come to an epiphany now, based on what Hillary has achieved as sos and what Obama has not achieved as pousa. Now she thinks Hillary should be president, whereas before when Hillary had an army mobilized and in the field he or she supported Obama. I think this person is a rube. There is a huge gap in his or her analysis and it relates to the senate years. If she had doubts about Hillary’s qualifications, then she should have done her homework on what she did as a senator, including the fact that she passed more legislation than any freshman senator in history. Compare that to what Obama did as a freshman senator and you have your answer.

    The people who supported obama were either lazy, naive or desperate. That is 58% of the electorate by the way. Now those who are not entirely brain dead are looking for a lifeboat as his ship sails toward an iceberg as he blathers about hope change and the mess Bush left him. He is becoming a cartoonish figure, and these erstwhile supporters do not wish to be thought of as fools. So they conjure up defenses like this one. The defense you hear from them most often now is that we should not have believed Obama or any other politician could cure the problems of this nation because it is too complex. The rebuttal is–exactly right. The problem is you and people like you not only believed it but convinced others to believe it as well.

  164. I liked that article, 5thd, though I agree with wbboei’s assessment of the stupidity of the writer. Still, better late than never, I guess.

    Found this on uppity woman’s blog – someone is watching tv:

    Bill Clinton on Face the Nation! His Global Initiative is going to work on improving the US economy! Geez, he’s found a way to save this country, DESPITE Obama. UNbelievable.

  165. For me, the most telling truth of the 2008 election was how senior military people lined up. Hillary 35 vs Obama 1. Thirty five generals, admirals, chiefs of staff etc. lined up for Hillary. Only one, the queen for a day secretary of the air force, general mcpeak supported Obama. Why is that significant? Because the military culture values performance, and real leadership. There is accountability, and the margin of error is thin. Grace under fire is what they value. Those are the qualities Hillary offered to the country, and military leaders spot it instinctively.

  166. Vail Valley Voices: Hillary for president

    What you are about to read may be one of the most ironic things I have ever written in my life. My friends will certainly be shocked by it.

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    Troll.

  167. Palin Makes a Call for Party Unity
    By LAURA MECKLER
    Wall Street Journal

    Sarah Palin celebrated the victories of her chosen candidates in the GOP primaries and called for Republican leaders to set personal feelings aside and help unite the party, as she made a political trip to the presidential caucus state of Iowa.

    Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Ronald Reagan Dinner.

    Her comments at a state party dinner in Des Moines came as a bruising GOP primary season came to a close, with party leaders on the losing side of many nomination contests and tea-party activists victorious.

    “Unsuccessful GOP campaigns and deflated GOP pundits: Remember, attitudes are contagious. So, make sure yours are worth catching,” Ms. Palin said.

    She said that “unsuccessful campaigns and expert Beltway pundits” were “all bent out of shape,” but asked them to buck up. “You win some, you lose some,” she said.

    Ms. Palin’s speech came as some Republicans were still smarting after a primary season in which many contests were made more competitive by her endorsements. Even as she spoke, word was circulating that one Republican she helped defeat in a primary, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R., Alaska), had decided to mount a write-in bid for re-election. Ms. Murkowski’s decision may diminish the chances of Ms. Palin’s endorsed candidate in that contest, GOP nominee Joe Miller.

    Sarah Palin headlines Republican Party fundraiser in Iowa. Video courtesy of Fox News.

    She singled out Bush strategist Karl Rove, who has been highly critical of Christine O’Donnell, a Palin-endorsed candidate who won the GOP nomination for Senate in Delaware. The night of the election Tuesday, Mr. Rove predicted that Ms. O’Donnell wouldn’t be able to win in November.

    Ms. Palin suggested that Mr. Rove come to Iowa so he could “see the light and realize that these are the normal hard-working patriotic Americans who are saying no, enough is enough, we want to turn this around.”

    The visit by Ms. Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee, renewed speculation about her ambitions to run for president in two years. At the start of the speech, she joked that she couldn’t go for a jog outside without prompting a headline reading, “Palin, in Iowa, decides to run.”

    “She’s clearly sending a signal to activists to deal her into the game of 2012,” said David Yepsen, a longtime Iowa political writer who directs the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University.

    The speech prompted comment from the White House, which served to draw more attention to Ms. Palin. Asked if he thought she was exploring a presidential run, White Hosue Press Secretary Robert Gibbs noted that this is the time of the year when candidates “dip your toe in the water… And that’s my guess.. . she’s going to dip that toe in.”

    Watch excerpts from Sarah Palin’s speech at GOP dinner in Des Moise, Iowa. Video courtesy of Fox News.

    Ms. Palin’s speech was a vigorous defense of the tea-party movement and its victories in a string of Republican primaries. She personally saw 21 out of 32 candidates she endorsed win.

    As a presidential candidate in Iowa, Ms. Palin likely would start with a base of support among religious and social conservatives, who make up a sizable chunk of the state’s Republican electorate.

    But other candidates would be fighting for those voters, too. Several of them were in Washington on Friday and Saturday for a gathering of social conservatives called the Values Voter Summit. They included notably former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the Republican Iowa caucuses in 2008.

    Other potential 2010 candidates speaking at the summit were Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, who has been to Iowa five times this year and had already hired a full-time staffer for Iowa; former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney; former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

    Ms. Palin would be a phenomenon if she entered the race, Mr. Yepsen said. “She’ll get good crowds, they’ll be enthusiastic,” he said. But he said that some of that is a “celebrity factor.” He remembered Jesse Jackson’s 1984 and 1988 campaigns.

    “They liked what he said but it didn’t mean that they were going to vote for him,” he said.”

  168. wbboei
    September 19th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    wbboei, I agree with your analysis, the writer is pretty much a fool. Mostly, this was some schadenfreude to go with Sunday Morning coffee, paper, and pie. 😉

    I did find the following particularly hilarious — and it also reiterates your analysis that the writer is so miserably uninformed on Hillary’s record in the Senate. Take a look at the following SIMPLEST of mistakes.

    I didn’t believe that Hillary was qualified to be our chief executive. She was a senator for two years

    Mmmm Hillary was in the Senate for a lot longer than two years, Vail visitor…..I wonder whom this person was really thinking of unconsciously lol.

  169. SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON ON THE TEA PARTY ‘S DELAWARE SENATE CANDIDATE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxNRAaE6CrI

    =================

    Nasty attacks in a lot of voices. Didn’t hear anything I’d believe was Hillary current. I suppose they might have had a HIllary clip from the 90s, somewhere.

    Again, is there a transcript clearly showing what they’re attributing to Hillary?

  170. “She was a senator for two years ”

    WOW. That’s all I can say. What a putz. I suppose the ignorant Obot has not heard of Patrick Moniyhan either.

    I frankly have no sympathy for fools like these Obots. Dangle another piece of lie, they will fall for it again. Just look at how they fall for every lie told about Sarah Palin. They have no independent thought of their own. They will think as they are told by the LameStream Media. Congratualtions Vail visitor, people like you have utterly destroyed the JFK democrat brand.

    Frankly, I always felt it was not Mr.Waffles who was the main problem, but ignorant fools and voters like Vail visitor because they are weak minded and closed minded enough to fall for any idea presented to them. They fell for it once, they will again in the future.

    However, Mr.Waffles was a senator FOR ONLY 2 YEARS before announcing for president.

  171. Remind us again why the tea party critique of obama’s elitist and disenfranchising approach to governance is crazy . . . This opinion piece in todays Wall Street Journal relates to the end run around congress and the voters by Obamacrats seeking to install Harvard Professor Liz Warren in a key government position. People of her ilk will kill private sector jobs, and create useless government jobs, which will raise the cost of government and depress the gdp. This is how you move from a democracy to totalitarian government. The first example of this was the Czars who have been too quiet lately.

    ” We have here another end-run around Constitutional niceties so Team Obama can invest huge authority in an unelected official who is unable to withstand a public vetting. So a bureau inside an agency (the Fed) that it doesn’t report to, with a budget not subject to Congressional control, now gets a leader not subject to Senate confirmation. If Dick Cheney had tried this, he’d have been accused of staging a coup.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440604575495681843430198.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_opinion

  172. If the republicans are smart, I mean IF, then they will cast aside this god squad nonsense and focus on the economy and the constitution. Big media will do everything they can including lie through their teeth, do ambush interviews etc/ to hang that tag on them and paint them into that corner. The republican base needs to understand that the priority is not abortion, etc, but the economy and the constitution. Those are the twin targets of the party of Obama and its media enablers.

  173. However, Mr.Waffles was a senator FOR ONLY 2 YEARS before announcing for president
    ********
    Wasn’t the final total of days worked as a Senator about 142 ???

  174. The Tea Party is a populist movement. Oh, it got it’s start as a Dick Armey astroturf operation, but Frankenstein’s monster has escaped from the lab and is running amok around the countryside. The GOP establishment is almost as afraid of them as the Democrats are.
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    That is right. Plus it scares the billiebejiggars out of big media which is elitist to the core. The trick will be for this movement to traps which the elitists will lay out for them, and to keep their focus on the constitution and the economy. If they can do that then they will draw qualified people who are sick of both parties to the cause. Because that is the other half of the equation. You must not only win elections. Once you have won then you must govern. Yes, you must govern, not the way Obama does which is strictly for the benefits of the elites, but for the general welfare.

  175. Did you guys hear the Os went to church this morning. LOL..the things they have to do for votes. Cheating and more cheating.

  176. Yes, 142 glorious days, as the best politician big money could buy. It was perfectly fine with him that Illinois citizens had nuclear waste in their drinking water just as long as the offending company, Excelon filled his campaign coffers. Brian Williams dismissed this as “something of a lesson” for the young high minded senator from the land of Lincoln. To others it came across as another example of a politician who could be bought. But now it is more. Now he has turned the entire country into a test tube for his experiments in social engineering by the likes of Van Jones and Elizabeth Warren who could never win voter or congressional support. “Something of a lesson” for us, I would say.

  177. Apparentlly c. 1999 O’Donnell (at age 30, having recently converted to Christianity) appeared on Maher’s show as a guest commentator about 22 times. Now he’s using film clips from that time (some of them never aired, and edited by himself) to try to force her to appear on his show again to defend herself.

    michellemalkin.com/2010/09/18/bill-mahers-witch-hunt-and-the-missing-context-for-odonnells-remarks/

    [O’Donnell] has nothing to be ashamed of — except, perhaps, for going on Maher’s show so many times. He promises to release 22 more clips until she sits down with him in front of the cameras and brags, in typical TV chauvinist fashion, that he “created her” and that she “owe[s]” him.

    More on this:
    memeorandum.com/100918/p54#a100918p54

  178. “the economy and the constitution”

    Yep. That is the main force behind the Tea Party.

    Oh, and I don’t think Dick Armey started this, Rick Santelli did. Which is why Santelli supports O’Donnell, Armey is another power hungry repub.

    And yes there are elitists on the repub side too, look at Rove’s rant against O’Donnell, and Michelle Malkin’s rant against Ron Paul.

    I think because of the Internet, people are able to make up their own minds about issues, look back in history to see how the issue has evolved, and how politicians parsed words without giving a definite answer as to where they stand.

    It is the elitist mentality that people are sick of. These elitist people get paid to have an opinion, yet have only 1 vote themselves, and yet arrogant enough to think their opinion is better that others, its fine if you want to defend your point of view, that is to be enocouraged. But there is almost a condencsion with some of these elitists if you disagree with them, and its a personal consdencsion, like “how dare you question me, I know better than you”

  179. the fact that O’Donnell annoys Rove is a huge plus is my view. Think I will go over and make another donation to her just for that.

  180. tim
    September 19th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    the fact that O’Donnell annoys Rove is a huge plus is my view. Think I will go over and make another donation to her just for that.

    =================

    Like we put 44 in our donations, maybe you should start a meme for people to put something in theirs to show we’re defending her against attack, not necessarily agreeing with her.

  181. To others it came across as another example of a politician who could be bought [by Excelon]. But now it is more. Now he has turned the entire country into a test tube for his experiments in social engineering by the likes of Van Jones and Elizabeth Warren

    =========

    Huh? Aren’t those charges contradictory? Jones and Warren equated with Excelon?

  182. The constitution provides personal liberty. The economy provides gainful employment. Take those away as Obama is doing and what have you got left? Put differently we are talking about who survives and who doesn’t. And that is why this tea party movement will not pass as mere fashions do. This is why the elites erred when they tried to bottle it up. They failed to understand the force they were dealing with and now find themselves on the wrong side of history, after they tried so hard to be so historic.

  183. the fact that O’Donnell annoys Rove is a huge plus is my view. Think I will go over and make another donation to her just for that.
    ——————————–
    Same here. Rove reminds me of Sydney Greensteet in the Maltese Falcon:

  184. wbboei
    September 19th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    wow. that is ana excellent analysis. Repubs time and time again make the mistake of letting social issues dominate and then they drive away people who are normally conservative fiscally, defense and adherence to the US Constitution.

  185. Just listened to Joe Miller on Wallace’s show. Very impressive man. Didn’t realise Lisa M is now going to play the petulant child and not concede. These people really think power belongs to them only, they really are like leeches.

  186. Well, someone paid attention in 2008, and sees exactly what the GOP establishment is doing now – the same thing the Dems did to Hillary – undermine from the shadows.

    THE GOP TAKES A PAGE FROM THE DEMS PLAYBOOK:

    As this nation heads towards November, a crucial turning point in American history, Palin’s foes are making hay. Political strategists the likes of Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer have emerged from the old boys’ network closet. The most infamous, nepotistically-influenced, former Palin competitor Lisa Murkowski has announced she will run again this November—as a write in. In these days, it is wise to recall the actions of Harry Reid in 2006 when he summoned then-Senator Obama, instructing Barack it was the Party’s intentions to have him run for the Presidency (even though it would not be until the summer of 2008 that Reid would publicly endorse the Senator from Illinois).

    The Democrats (led by Reid) would have done anything to defeat Hillary—and they did it stealthily. The GOP is taking a page from that book. There is an all-too-familiar episode re-playing itself for voters to witness this season. The GOP loathes Sarah Palin. And the Party is now setting about to deeply unsettle those successful candidates she has promoted. The evidence is glaringly obvious. Murkowski has been unleashed; Rove and Krauthammer are doing their bidding. The events unfolding are towards one goal: the destruction of Palin’s bid for the Presidency.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27844

  187. HillaryforTexas
    September 19th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    It so ironic you posted that. Hillbuzz boyz have said the same thing, the DNC plotted to keep Hillary out, it was no coincendence that FL and MI delegates were not counted, and even then 4 delegates were stolen from Hillary and given to that fraud just to push him over the finish line.

    Now the RNC may be trying to do the same thing to Palin. Although I will admit the RNC has been more democratic than the “Democratic” Party.

    Palin cannot be controlled, and that frightens them.

  188. You know, I think there were a lot of bad reasons that the Dem poobahs kneecapped Hillary long before she even ran (much less during). But one of those reasons may have been, for some, an honest belief that she couldn’t win. I think they were wrong, but that part may have been “honest” motivation. That still doesn’t give them the right to do what they did. The party doesn’t belong to them. It belongs to the Dem voters. THEY get to decide who is “electable”, in something called a “primary”. The leaders, whatever their motivation, don’t get to substitute their own judgement for the voters ahead of time.

    The same is true for the R party, and in that very narrow sense I DO support the teapartiers. They have every right to pick their candidates without the establishment trying to kneecap and cheat, and wheedle losers into “independent” runs behind the scenes, and undercut the voters beforehand. I don’t care if Karl Rove thinks Palin or ODonnell can’t win. That’s not his f*cking decision to make.

    Process matters. And if this kind of thing is applauded just because the other side is the one doing it, it comes back to bite us all on the ass, eventually. Because that becomes the accepted standard of behavior for the political elites of either side. It needs to be denounced, loudly.

  189. ADMIN:

    Would it be possible to post the DRAFT HILLARY Link permanently at the Top of your page or somewhere in the side column?
    ___________________________________

    #
    NewMexicoFan
    September 19th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    http://www.change.org/petitions/view/petition_to_draft_hillary_rodham_clinton_as_the_2012_democratic_presidential_nominee

    The Petition to Draft HRC
    ____________________________________

    NewMexioFan:

    Thanks so much for posting the Draft Hillary Link…
    _____________________________________

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    lisaque
    September 19th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Mrs.Smith

    May I ask that if you come to Dallas to vist your son that you ask me to lunch as well. It would be a privillage to spend time with others that think along the same lines as I do.

    Lisaque
    __________________________________

    Sounds like a plan, Lisaque-

    A note to Texas Hillary supporters: (and anyone willing to make the trip) 😉

    If anyone else is interested in a meet-up/luncheon when I’m in Texas, just leave a note on this site where you can be contacted. Get your “PINK” wardrobe and Pink ribbons together and let’s Rock-On for HILLARY Texas style.

  190. admin
    September 18th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Barney Frank is not a creative classer. He’s an old school Democrat, an excellent Congressman for his district, a huge Hillary supporter, a huge defender of Bill Clinton, and brother of Clinton’s closest associate, Ann Lewis. It would be a travesty to lose Barney.

  191. Fifth Dimension
    September 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Vail Valley Voices: Hillary for president

    “So, when Obama won the primaries, I was ecstatic. In fact, I said to many of my friends at the time that Hillary’s defeat was the most important event of the presidential campaign.”

    :snip:

    “I would ask you one question, “Do you really think Obama will win the next presidential election?” If not, and you are a Democrat, get on the Hillary bandwagon.”

    “I’m not the first person to bring up this seemingly far-fetched suggestion. But, you just wait. After November, many people will be clamoring for Hillary. ”
    _________________________________________

    Here is how I would have responded to V V V post:

    Vail Valley Voices:

    Call your many friends and tell them to pick-up their “Draft-Hillary” buttons.

  192. mj
    September 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Barney has been at the trough too long. It’s time for him to go. Maxine Waters is taking the heat all by herself for her improprieties at United Bank… And that is the least of her problems. The video says it all.

  193. mj, Blarney Frank is a crook in the first degree!! So, do you want to continue with the crooks and let them create more mischief even though he was a Hillary supporter? He lied about Fannie and Freddy and he and Dodd took Americans down the yellow brick road.

  194. Tarpley’s ominous predictions concerning Obama and the Right Wingers:

    Worthwhile read if you are interested in the future of Union Labor. From one of the best bare-knucked Economists and World Class political gurus who, like it or not, tells it like it is:
    _________________________________________

    Labor Unions suffocating under Obama regime…

    Labor Struggles Have Delivered Economic Progress – Not the Cartelized “Free Market”

    Webster G. Tarpley

    September 14, 2010

    Many people in the United States mistakenly believe that the standard of living and amenities which they still enjoy are somehow the automatic result of their own merits, or else simply self-evident. Such illusory beliefs are tragically wrong. Such benefits as the eight hour day, the 40 hour week, the child labor laws, worker’s compensation, the minimum wage, and the social safety net composed of unemployment insurance, food stamps, and Social Security disability payments are all the direct result of mass political struggles waged by the US labor movement. If it had been left up to the so-called “free market,” none of these benefits would prevail today. The lesson is that mass organization and mass struggle deliver human progress, and not the mythologized and fetishized “free market.”

    The level of civilization enjoyed in the United States today is the heritage of times when trade unions were much stronger, and a much larger percentage of the workforce unionized than is today the case. Today US unions have about 16 million members representing 12.4% of the workforce, the lowest proportion since 1932. At the end of World War II, 36% of US workers had a union. In the private sector today, only 7.6% of workers are unionized. The public sector is somewhat better off, with 37% unionization, and these are precisely the unions that are now subjected to raving assaults by the reactionary Republicans, the Tea Party think tanks bankrolled by finance capital, and neo-feudal ideologues.

    The retreat of the US labor movement began on August 15, 1971, when Nixon and Kissinger deliberately destroyed the Bretton Woods world monetary system, which had been one of the most important gifts to the world by the Franklin D. Roosevelt New Deal. Nixon imposed wage and price controls, meaning in practice wage controls, and went through Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 of an anti-union strategy based on the idea of “give back” – that it was time for unions to surrender some of the improvements in wages and working conditions which they had been able to obtain in the previous decades. Nixon and his Labor Secretary George Shultz also concocted the Philadelphia Plan, a scheme for playing black unemployed workers against white building trades unions, with the net result of lowering wages for all. Under the reactionary Reagan, organized labor’s retreat turned into a rout with the cynical busting of the air traffic controllers’ union in 1981. This egregious assault on labor rights should have elicited an immediate general strike by the entire labor movement to shut down the whole country until the right wing extremist Reagan had been forced to back down. But there was no general strike. Reagan had learned his union busting from Lemuel Boulware at General Electric, and his ability to fire the air traffic controllers with total political impunity set the stage for a long series of catastrophic labor defeats. Things were made worse during the 1990s by the Clinton regime’s eager embrace of globalization and free trade. (adding, Clinton has mentioned more than once he regrets the way The Free Trade Agreement has turned out and would like to modify it.) The outcome of all this is that the US standard of living has declined by about two thirds since the mid-1960s.

    Freedom House lists 41 countries as granting full labor rights, and the US is not among them – a genuine scandal. Another reasons for labor’s secular weakness is the infamous Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, which made it much harder to create new union locals in any part of the United States, and made it almost impossible in the anti-union states of the South, where “right to work” laws created an almost insuperable barrier to collective bargaining. This has helped to perpetuate the oligarchical political structure and lower standards of living in the southern states down to the present day. These states have become the preferred venue for Japanese, European, and other foreign corporations wishing to escape the much stricter labor laws in their own countries, all at the expense of the American worker. The overall effect has been a disastrous race to the bottom among the states, further increasing the downward pressure on the standard of living.

    Many of the abuses which plague the US trade union movement today are the direct result of weakness, defeat, demoralization, and despair. There is also the problem posed by a new and sinister model of low-wage unionism under ultra-left and multicultural cover, as pioneered by Obama crony Andy Stern at the Service Employees International Union. Here the tendency is to sacrifice militant wage demands to the imperative of getting more dues-paying members, whatever this means for the workers. Stern also decisively weakened the US labor movement by the split he piloted in 2005, creating the Change to Win Federation along with the Teamsters and some other unions as a separate entity from the AFL-CIO. Since resigning from the SEIU, Stern has joined the Bowles-Simpson austerity commission, the goal of which is to carry out a wrecking job on Social Security and whatever else remains of entitlements and the social safety net. Even after the May 6 flash crash of 1000 Dow points occasioned a mass exodus of retail investors out of the stock market, Stern is apparently still recommending that part of the Social Security trust fund be invested into toxic paper offered on Wall Street, and thus made subject to the flash trading, high-frequency trading, and other forms of algorithmic program trading which anyone can see represent an astronomical risk of such investments. Stern’s devotion to Wall Street in this case is a useful indication of what he has been all along.

    Contrary to popular belief, Obama has done nothing for the US labor movement but stab it in the back and betray it. The main demand of the AFL-CIO over the past two years has been the Employee Free Choice Act, otherwise known as card check, a perfectly reasonable and beneficial reform which would make it easier to organize a workplace for the purposes of collective bargaining. Card check has been demonized by TV ads paid for by wealthy reactionaries which present this a proposal to level the playing field a little as the demonic spawn of Bolsheviks and mafiosi. The main thing is that Obama and the Pelosi-Reid Democrats have done absolutely nothing to get card check passed. Richard Trumpka, the feckless president of the AFL-CIO, pretends not to notice this betrayal as he attempts to marshal his forces to vote Democratic in the November election, despite the obvious fact that the Democrats have delivered for Wall Street but not for labor.

    Reactionaries are still pushing the myth that the bailout of Chrysler and General Motors represented some kind of largess for the unions. Steve Rattner, Obamas car czar, notes in his new book that the motto of Obama’s White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel during these auto rescue negotiations was “F*** the UAW.” The UAW was forced to accept the reduction of wages and working conditions in its Midwestern plants down to the level prevailing in the runaway shop “right to work” paradises of Alabama and Mississippi, where there is practically no union at all. In addition, certain trust funds maintained for the pensions and health benefits of retirees were looted, with the proceeds being transferred directly to Wall Street predators while the UAW was given dubious shares of stock in return. Far from representing a sweetheart deal, these proceedings represented a serious weakening of the UAW.

    Since public sector unions are the key remaining bastion of US labor, Obama has focused his attacks on the teachers’ unions which tend to be the flagships among organized government workers. Working with his pro-corporate Secretary of Education Arnie Duncan, Obama has cooked up a foundation-funded strategy of charter schools, denial of tenure, merit pay, and mass firings of teachers which represents not just a strategy for busting the union, but for preparing the eventual abolition of free, universal, compulsory, education of any quality in the United States. This is what the Race to the Top actually portends. A tradition which goes back to the Northwest Ordinance for publicly funded schools enacted way back under the Articles of Confederation and the work of Horace Mann in Massachusetts is now under savage attack by right wing extremists and the neo-liberals of the Obama camp.

    American System traditionalists know something which the reactionary rabble of the Tea Party and other Republicans cannot grasp: that the American tradition is one of a high wage economy, with high capital intensity, high-value added, high energy input, and a resulting high real absolute profit for the development of the entire society. The right wingers at the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and the Cato Institute (whose libertarianism turns out to be funded by the arch-reactionary Koch family) are preparing an attack on the American middle class and its economic rights which is without precedent in recent history. As Michael Barone recently noted in the Washington Examiner, Charles Murray (the racist theoretician of Bell Curve infamy, now ensconced at the AEI neocon den) is now spewing out an analysis which maintains that the vast majority of Americans ought to be denied a college education, since the low-wage jobs available to them do not require such extensive preparation. Other reactionaries are announcing the collapse of the “higher education bubble,” taking advantage of depression-induced student loan defaults at certain for-profit universities serving adult students. The goal is clearly to strip the US middle class of the chance to go to college, which has been a presumed birthright since FDR’s GI Bill of Rights. It is only a question of time before these reactionaries seek to popularize the workhouse, the treadmill, and the orphanage, among other Dickens-era horrors which have been circulating in the right wing echo chamber since the Gingrich counterrevolution of 1994. They hope to restore a situation in which a college education is the exclusive preserve of the rich and privileged few, but the broad middle class being completely shut out. This is the future of which the Tea Party dupes are facilitating, whether they know it or not.

    Any honest trade union official must now face immediate necessity of breaking with the Obama Democratic party, and of developing a new political strategy for American working people. The strategy must involve presidential politics just as much as workplace organizing, and it must feature above all a realistic and workable economic recovery program to show the country and the world the way out of the current world economic depression.

    __________________________

    I wouldn’t take Tarpley’s remark about the Tea Party literally. The Tea Party, imo, is a useful vehicle for splitting the Republican Party. They are new at this game and will learn quickly how to deal with Obamacrats and the RW. So far, so good.

  195. ShortTermer
    September 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Right on ShortTermer!

    Barney Frank is the white version of Charlie Rangel, maybe worse.

    I have recently retired from the Financial sector. What Franks has done in the destabilization of Fannie and Freddie Mac should be investigated.

  196. Rove is getting on my last nerve. Now he’s calling for O’Donnell to explain her admission she once “dabbled” in witchcraft?

    He11 – that’s a plus in my book. It’s one of the few belief systems which recognize and support women’s autonomy.

    Guess it’s time for Chissie to go to church. If Squat can go to prove he’s not a muslim to some doubters than she should be able to do the same thing to “prove” she’s not a witch.

    This is getting absurd and we’ve got two months to go. 😯

  197. Barney Frank is no good. He is hugely responsible for the devasting housing bubble and Fannie, Freddie debacle. He is arrogant, corrupt and has been there to long imho.

  198. As usual, Hillbuzz has some great ideas for defending O’Donnell. like this.

    “Let’s take this witch hunt against Christine O’Donnell and turn it into a net positive for her…the way we turned the Cosmo centerfold pics into a Hottie McAwesome benefit for Scott Brown.

    Operation Samantha Stevens is what we’re calling our effort to mitigate the attacks against Christine O’Donnell.

    It starts with some great graphics…which we need you creative types to help create.

    Look at the Bewitched images above…and see how much of Elizabeth Montgomery’s own spark and spirit Christine O’Donnell naturally has.

    Just as we did for Scott Brown’s campaign, let’s create Bewitched photo shops of O’Donnell to illustrate just how ridiculous the Left and Cocktail Party’s attacks on O’Donnell really are.”

    How could Franks be portrayed? Or Rove?

  199. Boy, the R establishment really has their panties in a wad. They are wetting themselves. Karl Rove backtracked a little yesterday, but today he came out again demanding that Christine have to “answer for” and “explain” her offhand comment a decade ago about dabbling in witchcraft in college.

    This is comedy gold. We need a cartoonist to do Rove as the knight: “Is she heavier than a duck?”

    BRING FORTH>>>THE SCALES!!

    Be careful Karl – these new female conservatives will turn you into a has-been like Newt.

  200. “However, Mr.Waffles was a senator FOR ONLY 2 YEARS before announcing for president”.

    True, and he spent a good amount of that time voting present and “dipping his toe in the water.”

  201. Hmmmmm……

    Why is Rove so desperate to discredit O’Donnell? Accusations of witchcraft have long been the charge of last resort for sexists who have used the same friggin’ lies against women for hundreds of years. McDonnell (and Palin) should be able use this to their advantage. I suspect most women will be furious at Rove’s misogynistic pronouncements.

    I just wonder what he’s so scared of? What’s wrong, Karl? 2010 elections not going according to script?

  202. LMAO!!! Okay, she just came out and brushed off the witchcraft stuff, and backhand smacked pasty Karl for not supporting the nominee to boot:

    ““I was in high school, how many of you didn’t hang out with questionable folks in high school? But no, There’s been no witchcraft since, if there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter.”

  203. O’Donnell is getting media saavy.

    O’Donnell makes light of witchcraft comment (Mocks Tokyo Rove)

    INCOLN, Del. – Republican Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell is making light of comments she made more than a decade ago when she was in high school about having dabbled in witchcraft.

    “How many of you didn’t hang out with questionable folks in high school?” she asked fellow Republicans at a GOP picnic in southern Delaware on Sunday.

    “There’s been no witchcraft since. If there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter now,” O’Donnell jokingly assured the crowd.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100919/ap_on_el_se/us_delaware_senate_o_donnell

  204. Where’d you see that, HillaryforTexas?

    BTW, when my ex wanted to prevent me from taking up air on the planet he actually mailed a letter to my then-principal accusing me of everything from satanic witchcraft to pedophilia and asked how the district could employ me in their schools.

    My prinicipal, reasonable woman that she was, saw the ploy as the age-old patriarchal women-need-to-know-thier-place BS that’s been the mantra for eons. And she was Catholic.

    Of course, I never realized my ex would pull the dirty sh!t he did during the divorce or I wouldn’t have married him. Stupid me.

    It certainly wasn’t any fun.

    BTW, I’ve got a soft spot for paganism.

  205. Shorttermer,

    You photoshop? (It’s beyond my pay grade). I would love to see what you come up with.

    OMG! I just got the joke. (I know I can be slow). O’Donnell’s response is hilarious! That Rove suggests she could be a witch proves she isn’t.

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha

  206. moononpluto,

    You left out the best part of that article.

    “I hung around people who were doing these things. I’m not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do,” O’Donnell told Maher.

    “One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that,” she said. “We went to a movie and then had a little midnight picnic on a satanic altar.”

    I am truly ROTFLMFAO! I’m starting to like this woman.

  207. This sounds like Soros:

    Japanese political history is replete with examples of shadow lords. Every school child knows the saying “No aru taka wa tsume o kakusu,” a hawk with true ability hides its talons. In the late nineteenth century, the word “Kuromaku “was coined to describe political hawks who hid their talons too well and corrupted this national virtue. Literally, “Kuromaku”means “black curtain.” The bureaucratic meaning refers to a person who directs the actions of others from behind. For all practical purposes, to be a Kuromaku is to hold ultimate power in Japanese society. The man who attains the non-statutory title of Kuromaku is an individual in collective-minded Japan. More truthfully, the status of Kuromaku supports traditional sociology by shading responsibility from public view.

  208. Another Dem Scandal……………..WHOOPS.

    Cuyahoga County scandal means more trouble for Democrats

    Sunday, September 19, 2010 03:02 AM

    The Columbus Dispatch

    On Valentine’s Day in 1998, Jimmy Dimora, chairman of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, stood at a podium and told 431 members of the party’s executive committee that his sex life was just fine.

    “Boy, do I feel good today,” Dimora brayed. “My wife took good care of me this morning.”

    Turns out others have been taking care of the Italian Stallion, according to a 139-page federal indictment against Dimora unveiled last week in Cleveland.

    Quoting Dimora’s wire-tapped conversations, the indictment describes in salacious detail how the Democratic county commissioner traded his influence for sex with prostitutes and at least one woman seeking a job.

    Dimora, the federal documents say, referred to the women who sated his sexual appetite as “broads” and “whores,” and even laughed to a contractor who paid $1,000 for his tryst with a prostitute in Las Vegas that she was “a little chatty.” Somewhere, Tony Soprano is blushing.

    Robert T. Bennett, former chairman of the Ohio Republican Party and a lifelong Clevelander, called the indictment “X-rated.”

    Late last week, the Cleveland media were saturated with newspaper and TV images of FBI agents leading Dimora away from his home in handcuffs and chains.

    After reading the kinky indictment, Jerry Austin, a Cleveland-based Democratic consultant, deadpanned, “Maybe when they came to arrest Dimora he asked to be put in chains.”

    But Austin and his fellow Democrats aren’t laughing. “It ain’t good,” he said.

    Cleveland has long been known for its ribald politics and dysfunctional government, but the scandal finally blossoming after a two-year FBI investigation is shocking even by Cleveland standards. Indictments are being handed out like cash on Election Day in East Cleveland.

    Former County Auditor Frank Russo already has copped a plea to taking more than $1 million in bribes and kickbacks, and he likely will spend 21 years in prison. Judges, a host of other politicians and their aides, along with pay-to-play contractors, also could be jail-bound.

    Fed-up Cuyahoga County voters have changed their system of governance. In January, an elected county executive will replace the board of commissioners. Even the favorite to win the county executive post, Lakewood Mayor Ed FitzGerald, the state Democratic Party’s new golden boy, is implicated in the scandal.

    The last thing Gov. Ted Strickland, U.S. Senate candidate Lee Fisher and other statewide Democratic candidates needed was a nightmarish scandal in their geographic base six weeks before the election and a dozen days before the start of early absentee voting on Sept. 28.

    “It’s kind of the nail in the coffin,” Bennett said.

    Strickland, who called for Dimora to resign as commissioner a year ago, sought to mitigate the damage: “The governor is disappointed and angry, especially at those who were given public trust and then abused that trust,” said his spokesman, Keith Dailey. “Those who are found guilty should receive the most severe punishment.”

    The odds already were stacked against Strickland & Co. Angry Ohio voters are poised to throw out incumbents, and the excitement that buoyed Democrats in 2008 has dissipated. Any scenario for winning included a strong turnout in the Cleveland media market, home to nearly 40 percent of the state’s Democrats. More than 15 percent of Ohio’s Democrats live in Cuyahoga County alone.

    “Dimora and these guys were responsible for turning out the vote,” Austin said. “There isn’t going to be anybody turning out.”

    Russo uttering the word guilty and Dimora in chains: “It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what kind of spots to put on the air,” Austin said.

    “If these were Republicans,” Bennett said, “I’d be telling them to pack their bags.”

    Joe Hallett is senior editor at The Dispatch.

    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/editorials/stories/2010/09/19/cuyahoga-county-scandal-means-more-trouble-for-democrats.html?sid=101

  209. The final instalment from the White House Insider

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/

    (snip)

    So how exactly has President Obama failed to help members of his own party? (Leans forward – clearly agitated.) Loyalty – loyalty – loyalty. This White House doesn’t give a damn for the concept of loyalty, dedication, sincerity. This White House is the most self-centered, arrogant, and ignorant…they just don’t care to know what they are doing. And when they do it – consequences mean nothing to them. NOTHING. And that is not to say it’s all bad at the White House. There are some very bright people working there. But you know what, those people have been marginalized, pushed aside, and are now leaving. You watch – the exodus from this White House will prove to be of historical proportions.

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/#ixzz101JXnPDw

  210. More from the WH insider

    So how exactly has President Obama failed to help members of his own party? (Leans forward – clearly agitated.) Loyalty – loyalty – loyalty. This White House doesn’t give a damn for the concept of loyalty, dedication, sincerity. This White House is the most self-centered, arrogant, and ignorant…they just don’t care to know what they are doing. And when they do it – consequences mean nothing to them. NOTHING. And that is not to say it’s all bad at the White House. There are some very bright people working there. But you know what, those people have been marginalized, pushed aside, and are now leaving. You watch – the exodus from this White House will prove to be of historical proportions.

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/#ixzz101JXnPDw

  211. So how exactly has President Obama failed to help members of his own party? (Leans forward – clearly agitated.) Loyalty – loyalty – loyalty. This White House doesn’t give a damn for the concept of loyalty, dedication, sincerity. This White House is the most self-centered, arrogant, and ignorant…they just don’t care to know what they are doing. And when they do it – consequences mean nothing to them. NOTHING. And that is not to say it’s all bad at the White House. There are some very bright people working there. But you know what, those people have been marginalized, pushed aside, and are now leaving. You watch – the exodus from this White House will prove to be of historical proportions.

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/#ixzz101JXnPDw

  212. hillaryforTexas,

    Whose side is Rove on? This is so weird. It seems like Karl was really caught off guard by O’Donnell’s win. I don’t live in Delaware and really don’t know much about O’Donnell other than that she defaulted on her mortgage (nearly happened to me, once) and took a long time getting through college (took me about 15 years cause I had to work my way through and pay my own way) and has never made much money.

    So what. The reaction to her win is completely over the top.

    Why?

  213. Basil its because the old republican guard can see their meal ticket slipping away. Rove is scared of becoming redundant under a new regime.

  214. moononpluto,

    If he wasn’t redundant before he sure is now after the way he’s handled the O’Donnell dilemma.

    Unbelievable. I’d actually come to enjoy his commentary the past few months.

    Once an a$$hat always an a$$hat.

  215. The third and final installment of WH insider from Newsflavor

    Loyalty – loyalty – loyalty. This White House doesn’t give a damn for the concept of loyalty, dedication, sincerity. This White House is the most self-centered, arrogant, and ignorant…they just don’t care to know what they are doing. And when they do it – consequences mean nothing to them. NOTHING. And that is not to say it’s all bad at the White House. There are some very bright people working there. But you know what, those people have been marginalized, pushed aside, and are now leaving. You watch – the exodus from this White House will prove to be of historical proportions.

    What question was that? WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE DONE? Now that may come off terribly disrespectful to the president, but so be it. What have we done? We were led to believe this man was one thing, but everything I have seen, heard, and understand, points to the indisputable fact he is not what we hoped for. Not what we were promised. Maybe he might have been. Maybe a full term or two in the Senate and he would have had the experience and maturity to handle the job of President of the United States. But right now – the man is simply not up to the task, and yet it is loyal Democrats who are paying the price for his incompetence and incoherence. The health care bill? Do you know I was told he has never read the bill? Not one part of it? NOT ONE. Sounds like something you would hear on one of the talk radio shows, right? And I wouldn’t normally consider such a possibility, but this came directly from one of those good Democrats who might now see their political careers ended because they supported that bill and now its being used against them like some political sledgehammer. How is that supposed to make someone who put their career on the line feel? Betrayed. A whole lot of us are feeling betrayed these days and it just pisses me off.

    Read more
    http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/

  216. From Newsflavor

    What question was that? WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE DONE? Now that may come off terribly disrespectful to the president, but so be it. What have we done? We were led to believe this man was one thing, but everything I have seen, heard, and understand, points to the indisputable fact he is not what we hoped for. Not what we were promised. Maybe he might have been. Maybe a full term or two in the Senate and he would have had the experience and maturity to handle the job of President of the United States. But right now – the man is simply not up to the task, and yet it is loyal Democrats who are paying the price for his incompetence and incoherence. The health care bill? Do you know I was told he has never read the bill? Not one part of it? NOT ONE. Sounds like something you would hear on one of the talk radio shows, right? And I wouldn’t normally consider such a possibility, but this came directly from one of those good Democrats who might now see their political careers ended because they supported that bill and now its being used against them like some political sledgehammer. How is that supposed to make someone who put their career on the line feel? Betrayed. A whole lot of us are feeling betrayed these days and it just pisses me off.

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-what-the-hell-have-we-done/#ixzz101TbLbnX

  217. Mrs. Remember to plan that lunch on a weekend, I have a wonderful job now!!! I would love to meet everyone!

    I’ve been busy and there was certainly alot to catch up on.

    Rove took part in Hillary’s demise, so I hope he gets what he’s got coming to him…he’s a has been, just like Newt and Mittens…good ridance to bad rubbish. I won’t miss those 3 stooges at all!

  218. I also have to comment on Bill C on the Daily show with Stewart…wasn’t he amazing…I hope the whole US of A see’s those videos….see what we could of had???

  219. Love O’Donnell’s comments.

    Lately I have sort of liked listening to Rove. He made some sense.

    But I watch him attack O’Donnell over and over again. I am convinced he sees 2 things he can take out, if O’Donnell loses, he can claim his mantle of the architect again and at the same time diminish Sarah Palin’s influence, by saying I told you so.

    The man needs to shut up if he nothing good to say about O’Donnell, I could not believe I was listening to a grown man saying he wanted to hear an explanation of why o’Donnell “dabbled” in witchcraft when she was in high school. Does this man know how stupid and petulant he is sounding??

  220. OMG.. Larry at NQ has this to say about the newsflavor article democrat1 is linking..

    Is Barack “Losing” It?

    By Larry JohnsongravatarcloseAuthor: Larry Johnson Name: Larry Johnson
    Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
    Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net

    Fascinating blog item from an unnamed “insider” who previously worked in the Obama White House. I believe this is legit. Why? Because I had a conversation earlier this week with a friend who is a major source of campaign funds for Democrats and told me about a recent conversation with a senior White House official, who was venting about Hillary Clinton. That comment tracks with the blog postings from Ulsterman linked below. Anyway, the “insider” offered the following juicy tidbits:

  221. ohhh.. Larry at NQ has this to say about the newsflavor article democrat1 is linking..

    Is Barack “Losing” It?

    Fascinating blog item from an unnamed “insider” who previously worked in the Obama White House. I believe this is legit. Why? Because I had a conversation earlier this week with a friend who is a major source of campaign funds for Democrats and told me about a recent conversation with a senior White House official, who was venting about Hillary Clinton. That comment tracks with the blog postings from Ulsterman linked below. Anyway, the “insider” offered the following juicy tidbits:

  222. democrat1
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    From Newsflavor
    ——————-
    Look into the pewter pot
    And see Barack as Barack is not
    Your faith was great until it passed
    The pain you feel deserves to last
    For now you see the morning sky
    Too late you know twas all a lie

  223. From The Confluence:

    On Karl Rove’s criticisms of O’Donnell for having trouble paying her college tuition and income taxes, and for having her house foreclosed on, Greenwald writes:

    Most people are not like Rove’s political patron, George W. Bush, who was born into extreme family wealth. O’Donnell’s financial difficulties, which Rove is describing, and implicitly condemning, are far from unusual for ordinary Americans. In 2009 alone, there were 2.8 million home foreclosures. Contrary to what Rove is trying to imply, an inability to pay one’s college tuition bills or a struggle with taxes are neither rare nor signs of moral turpitude. Those are common problems for a country whose middle class is eroding as the rich-poor gap rapidly widens. If the kinds of financial struggles O’Donnell has experienced are disqualifying from high political office, then we will simply have an even more intensified version of the oligarchy which our political system has become.

  224. Why is Rove so desperate to discredit O’Donnell?
    ——————
    Because she would kick his fat ass down the road where it belongs. It is hard for me to take his criticisms at face valued given whom he worked for. My friend who was mayor of Juneau could tell you stories about how young W went to Alaska, played hookie from work, and his landlady, an Alaska politician herself, would come home to find him sitting in front of the boob tube in sweat pants, eating popcorn and watching cartoons. Yet Rove has no problem with that.

  225. 09/16/2010

    ‘Obama Has Underestimated the Frustration in the Country’

    The dramatic ascent of the Tea Party continued in America this week, with the conservative movement scoring another surprise victory in the Republican primary in Delaware. German editorialists digested the news on Thursday and warned that both Republicans and Democrats were right to feel uneasy.

    Even a few weeks ago, it was considered impossible that the Tea Party favorite Christine O’Donnell would win the primary in Delaware. She was long seen as being too far to the right to woo enough votes. On Tuesday, such predictions were consigned to the trash when O’Donnell beat a veteran congressman to secure the Republican nomination in the Delaware race for the US Senate.

    The Tea Party movement has won a succession of Republican primaries, with its conservative, anti-establishment candidates. O’Donnell is known for her pro-gun, anti-abortion stance, as well as her belief that masturbation is a sin.

    In the Delaware primary, O’Donnell got 53 percent of the vote, ousting Mike Castle, a long-standing politician who has represented his party as a state governor and in Congress.

    Palin-Backed

    “The people of Delaware have spoken. No more politics as usual,” O’Donnell told enthusiastic fans after results came out. “The cause is restoring America.”

    In the weeks running up to her victory, O’Donnell gained publicity with endorsements from Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice presidential candidate, and the National Rifle Association.

    Recent weeks have brought a string of successes for the Tea Party. In another boost to the grassroots movement, Carl Paladino, its candidate in New York, surprised pundits by wining the Republican nomination to run for governor in November.

    The Tea Party movement has enjoyed a comet-like rise since last year. It provides a haven for voters for whom the mainstream Republican Party is not conservative enough, and its popularity is widely attributed to dissatisfaction with US President Barack Obama and frustration with the lackluster US economy. Many observers expect its rise will force the Repubican Party to move further to the right.

    On Thursday, German editorialists look at what the latest victory means for US politics.

    The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes: “The spectacular successes of the grassroots conservative movement could turn out to be a political boomerang for the opposition Republicans, whose chances for the midterm elections were looking good or even very good. The Republicans will now be drawn further and further towards the right, meaning that they will no longer be an option for non-ideological voters who are disillusioned with the Democrats. In this way the Republicans could jeopardize their own future success. The Democrats’ best campaigner isn’t Obama, but rather the anti-establishment front of its opponent.”

    The conservative daily Die Welt writes:

    “This sort of nomination is intended as a putsch against the Republican establishment, but it doesn’t solve the Democrats’ problems. They are threatened by a massive loss of support in the midterm elections, where the whole House of Representatives and a third of the Senate and a large chunk of the governor posts are up for grabs. But the Republicans’ goal is to regain the majority in both houses of Congress. If they fail to accomplish this double whammy, the Democrats can breathe a sigh of relief.”

    The business daily Handelsblatt writes:

    “Glen Beck, Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are part of an opposition movement outside of Congress which is moving mountains. This is a revolt against ‘Obamaism,’ which is seen as representing big government, more taxes, a higher deficit and not enough ‘Americanism.’ Day by day, it puts more and more pressure onto those at the top.”

    “In the US, people … spend time and money supporting the Republicans. Unlike in Germany, in America, which never had a Hitler, being ‘right-wing’ is not taboo. ‘Right-wing’ represents Reagan, religion, the free market, individualism, patriotism and small government. In reality, it is an impossible mixture: National pride, God and tradition are conservative ‘us’ values. The profit motive, competition and a weak state are ‘me-first’ sentiments … . But this mixture of conservative values and neoliberalism works well in America, where it transcends social class — that’s the difference to Germany.”

    The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:
    “The success of the Tea Party candidate Christine O’Donnell does not bode well for the Republicans, nor for the Democrats (even if they see it differently at the moment), nor for the whole American political machine.”

    “Obama has underestimated the frustration in the country and the power of the Tea Party movement, which gives the prevailing disillusionment a platform and a voice. It is by far the most vibrant political force in America. Obama’s left-of-center coalition, which got young people and intellectuals involved and which appealed to a majority of women, blacks and Latinos, has evaporated into nothing.”

    “The new right, though, is on the rise. It sets the agenda. America is facing a shift to the right. The Republicans have already marched in this direction of their own accord, regardless how many Tea Party reactionaries get a seat and a voice in Congress in November. The Democrats and the president have been put totally on the defensive. From now on they will only be able to react, rather than act.”

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,717845,00.html

  226. Oh, good grief! Is anyone watching Fox? I’m not, but I just saw this comment on a blog:

    Geraldo just accused O`Donnell of following satanism and then showed a voodoo ceremony complete with dead chickens.

    These people have lost their ever-loving minds.

  227. HillaryforTexas
    September 19th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    I saw that. I am still laughing. They are all like little boys making fun of this woman. Geraldo is normally an idiot in my book, now he just looks like Rove, going after this woman on everything, without any context.

  228. I only caught half of it, and I had no idea what the idiot was talking about.

    I can’t take that man seriously with that huge moustashe, reminds me of when I used to go to the state fair.

  229. Thanks for posting the heads-up article at NQ- Obama is coming apart at the seams. The guy is dumber than a box of rocks. He sold his soul to the devil for the job and didn’t agree on an exit strategy if he didn’t like the job. Obama does not possess the acumen necessary to be a good businessman. And he’s a lawyer…. married to one. 🙄

    Stay tuned for the next chapter:

    “Congressional Gridlock the Rise of the Republicans”. poppysmic!

    ______________________

    Great article, JanH- Thanks for posting it..
    ______________________________

    GOP Aims to Erode White House Agenda

    Preparing for a Potential Congressional Majority, Republican Leaders Say Repeal of Health-Care Law Tops Their Priorities

    By NEIL KING JR. And JANET ADAMY

    Eyeing a potential Congressional win in November, House Republicans are planning to chip away at the White House’s legislative agenda—in particular the health-care law—by depriving the programs of cash.

    The emerging plan has been devised in part to highlight the policy differences between the two main parties, especially over legislative achievements of the Obama administration that have proven unpopular with voters.

    Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), who could potentially chair the House budget panel, says the GOP must show it’s ‘serious about limiting government.’

    Republican leaders acknowledge many of these salvos will fail. At best, the party will gain a majority in the House and a razor-thin hold in the Senate in November’s elections—short of what’s needed to overcome a presidential veto. Analysts give the GOP a better shot at taking the House than the Senate.

    But Republican lawmakers portray the anticipated drama as foreshadowing the far bigger brawl of the 2012 presidential elections and a clash of visions with President Barack Obama. A vote in the House to repeal the health-care overhaul would be among the GOP’s top priorities.

    Republican leaders are also devising legislative maneuvers that might have a bigger impact, using appropriations bills and other tactics to try to undermine the administration’s overhaul of health care and financial regulations and its plans to regulate greenhouse gases. GOP leaders also hope to trim spending, return unspent stimulus funds and restore sweeping tax cuts.

    Business groups have compiled lists of impeding regulations they hope to see stopped under a GOP House majority.

    “We need to establish the proverbial lines in the sand and show we are serious about limited government,” said Wisconsin’s Rep. Paul Ryan, a leading conservative who is in line to chair the House budget committee if Republicans take control.

    Democrats accuse the Republicans of wanting to return to the same policies that sparked the financial crisis and helped put the country into recession. Mr. Obama has labeled Republicans as wanting to “cut more taxes for millionaires and cut more rules for corporations.”

    The White House concedes that Congress’s withholding funds would be a threat to the health-care law, but argues such a strategy could backfire with consumers, particularly if it threatened to nix popular provisions, such as allowing children to stay on their parents’ insurance plans until they turn 26.

    “What the Republicans will be faced with is really taking those benefits away,” said Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and Human Services. “They will have to face their constituents who have their children enrolled on a family plan and say, ‘That can’t happen anymore.'”

    The Republican plan is still in flux. Much hinges on what happens in the final throes of the current Congress, especially in the fight over the Bush-era tax cuts. And a new crop of freshmen lawmakers will inject unpredictability into the ranks.

    Some lawmakers, Mr. Ryan among them, fear factions within the party remain wedded to their free-spending ways under President George W. Bush. Others worry that renegades could push too far. Several GOP lawmakers and tea-party candidates have suggested imposing a government shutdown if Democrats block the overhaul efforts, a strategy party leaders reject.

    Still, the Republican plans are more modest than those advanced in the party’s 1994 “Contract with America,” which included a balanced-budget amendment and promises to overhaul welfare, court sentencing and tort law.

    In a nod to the 1994 contract, Minority Leader John Boehner and other top Republicans plan to unveil more initiatives in coming weeks. One will be a requirement, pushed by tea-party activists, that all legislation cite its constitutional authority.

    “This is all about the art of the doable,” said Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, one of eight Republicans on the White House’s debt commission. “Is saving the country from bankruptcy a matter of doing or undoing? I think it’s a mixture of both.”

    At its core, the GOP plan will focus on spending and whittling away the health-care law, the Democrats’ landmark achievement, which extends insurance to 32 million Americans. House Republicans say a full repeal would pick up a few Democratic votes, but acknowledge the effort would fail in the Senate.

    Instead, they plan other means to chip away at it, by trying to choke off appropriations funding for key pieces, since House approval is required to pass such spending.

    Republican congressional aides and advisers say their focus would including blocking funding to hire new Internal Revenue Service agents, who are needed to enforce the law’s tax increases. They also would consider barring spending for a new board that approves Medicare payment cuts as well as on research that compares the effectiveness of medical procedures.

    Other potential targets include funds to pay for a long-term care insurance program and money to help states set up insurance exchanges where consumers will be able to use tax credits beginning in 2014.

    “By having the capacity to block funding for it, you get to very much shape how it turns out,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a director of the Congressional Budget office under Mr. Bush.

    Republicans would also bring to a vote measures that attack the law’s least popular parts, including the requirement that most Americans carry health insurance and cuts to payments for privately run Medicare plans. Such other stand-alone bills would struggle to get through the Senate. But House Republicans say they will bring them to the floor anyway to pave the way for a broader attack on the health law should they recapture the White House in 2012.

    Much of the $938 billion bill is effectively on a glide path, a fact that works against the Republican plan, and many provisions don’t begin until 2014. That’s when lower-earners will start getting tax credits to offset the cost of insurance and states will expand their Medicaid programs.

    Some Republican aides and advisers say if Republicans controlled the House, they could wedge wide-ranging provisions into appropriations bills that would choke off future funding for the core of the law. Others caution that Senate Democrats wouldn’t sign off on anything too expansive, and that Republicans may have power over about $100 billion in implementation spending.

    Finally, House Republicans say they would offer up new provisions that amount to a replacement of the law, another largely symbolic tactic. Based on a bill the party offered during the health-care debate, those measures would likely aim to curb medical malpractice lawsuits, loosen restrictions on selling insurance across state lines and expand of high-risk insurance pools to extend insurance to those with a pre-existing health condition.

    With Republicans touting job creation as the party’s main focus, it’s not likely the House would devote time to advancing such new measures until the economy improves.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704416904575501782138298328.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

  230. HillaryforTexas
    September 19th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    O’Donnell is the news distraction du jour temporarily tamping down public anger towards the screwup sitting in the WH. A regular goldmine for SNL. You just couldn’t make this stuff up.

  231. I did see the Geraldo “chicken” and vodoo segment when they were talking about O’Donnell! After feeling so sad for the poor chicken they killed, I thought about Geraldo and his big build up to the Al Capone thing and his flopping around out in hurricanes and wondered who in their right mind would take this man seriously?

    Tony Perkins from one of the religious family council groups or some such was on later. He seemed to be excited about Mike Pence and his CHRISTIAN VALUES…as if he were Bush Jr.

    Surely the Republicans are not going down that same “Godly man…born again…anti gay marriage…against choice… path that Rove took the country to get Bush Jr. elected. The voters have been there, done that. I’m sure Axelrod and Plouffle are thrilled as well as BO to see Karl’s nasty little head popping up again. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this takes Rove down and exposes him once and for all as one of the nastiest, meanest little dudes around.

    I know this is absolutely nothing new…just needed to comment.

  232. From the Larry Johnson Article At No Quarter: in the words of a former Obama insider:

    “The fear of Hillary is real. When my Democrat friend described the comments the White House contact made with respect to Secretary of State Hillary I was stunned by the pettiness. I cannot go into the details because it would compromise my source. But I couldn’t believe that the White House has such a siege mentality with respect to Hillary.”
    ——————————-
    My reaction:

    Many years ago I was on the fringe of a civil war raging inside one of the five New York Mafia families–the Luccheses. We had a shop steward who was murdered at midnight on DeLancy Street in downtown Newark with a shotgun. Meanwhile the FBI was using the full force of RICO to bring them all down from the outside–through wire taps, witness protection etc. It eventuated in what came to be called the “Windows Trial”. Ironically, the people running that family, i.e. Vitorio Amuso and Anthony gas pipe Caso were more concerned about infighting than the external threat. They gave the FBI as treasure trove of incriminating stuff without knowing it. Apparently, that is true of the Obama people as well. What they should be worried about at this point is their inability to govern the country. Instead they obsess about 2012 and what Hillary might do. They never got over the campaign. They never realized that as of January 20,2009 their principal task was to govern.

  233. O’Donnell is a distraction which will prevent big media from recognizing the sea change which has occurred in this country. I doubt it will alter the election result. What it will do however is cause big media to continue to misunderstand and misrepresent the force they are dealing with. Since they are the adversary, I like it that way.

  234. A comment from NQ….no source given

    Dont believe anything our Government says. Here are some facts you may not know about the members of Congress!!

    29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    *7 have been arrested for fraud
    *19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    *117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at leased 2 businesses
    *3 have done time for assault
    *71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    *14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    *8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    *21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    *84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

    And they are worried about O`Donnell ?????
    Today, 10:35:43 PM– Flag – Like – Reply – Delete – Edit – Moderate

  235. Southern Born, what I am seeing in my cruising of the conservative blogs is that even the “social conservatives” for the most part do not care about making those things a big issue in this election. If asked they are going to say they are pro-life or whatever, but there’s no big push to climb into that swamp with gusto. Quite the opposite.

    A few die-hards still do bleat, but most are saying, “Screw all that – our country is going off a financial and govt-control cliff and we have to stop it.”

  236. Mrs. Smith
    September 19th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    And he’s a lawyer…. married to one
    ———————————
    I thought he resigned his membership in the Illinois Bar, after someone noticed that he swore he had no other aliases when in fact he previously used other names–like Barry Soretto, or Barry Sotero, or King Obama, etc. In other words he lied. Michelle it seems has resigned her bar membership as well. But in her case it is understandable. Hard to get continuing legal education credits when you are traipsing around la coasta del sol in Spain. Consequently, I think you are right, They are still lawyers. But they are no longer licensed to practice law. And soon–but not soon enough, he will no longer be licensed to act as pousa. He will just be barack hussein obama, barry soretto, barry sotero, king obama or whatever other alias his overactive imagination conjured up. And won’t that be grand.

  237. Big Dawg is the quintessential MacIver of politics. No matter what it is, he can find a benefit and put it to good use… Amazing!

    BIG DAWG gets the Tea Party Movement

    Former President Bill Clinton offered a broad defense of the tea party movement Sunday, saying its not clear that it will be a good thing for the Democratic Party.

    Brushing back on the prevailing wisdom of his party, Clinton told Bob Schieffer on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that the conservative wave sweeping the country “reflects the feeling of a lot of Americans that they are getting the shaft.”

    “The people who caused these problems, first of all the banks that were responsible for the financial meltdown, they got well again and everybody’s got money again whose in that business. But ordinary people don’t. And they think the government didn’t exercise appropriate oversight, everybody there still got a job, and health insurance and can make a home mortgage payment and send their kids to college and they can’t. So, there is a general revolt against bigness which in the case of the Republicans is always directed more against the government than private sector,” Clinton said. “It’s totally understandable.”

    The idea that the fracturing of the Republican Party may not help Democrats flies in the face of claims by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders who believe the mood will help their party.

    Clinton, though, said he was bothered by two things about the tea party movement: the money behind it and a dearth of concrete ideas.

    The former president, speaking with Schieffer from Chappaqua, N.Y., said that the movement is “being bankrolled by people who want to weaken the government so that there will be even more unaccounted for private concentration of power and that’s what got us in the mess that we’re in in the first place.”

    Clinton also expressed concern in not knowing the movement’s stance on repealing legislation like the major overhaul to financial services regulation and health care.

    “I don’t know where they stand, but I get why they’re popular,” Clinton said.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0910/Clinton_gets_the_tea_party_movement.html#

  238. I think Rove may have been stunned a little the night of the primary and said some things out of school, but now I think he is role playing to benefit the candidate.

    But on the other hand, this morning the head of the Delaware Republican party was on one of those talk show and said something like: I am the head of the Delaware Republican party but the people of Delaware have the final say about who will be the candidate (very rough quote). I swear his lower lip was quivering.

  239. JanH, Do you still have the link to Shemon Peres telling Hillary how much she is loved and trusted…I think you posted it a couple of days ago. I need that link…I have been trying to send it to my sister.
    YouTube has taken off the beginning of the tape where Peres goes on and on about Hillary and they’ve put it in a 09′ video…Obama and his cronies are working 24/7 to discredit her work. Please repost!

  240. “I thought he resigned his membership in the Illinois Bar,”
    _____________________________

    I read somewhere they ‘both’ resigned from the Bar Association. Reason not given. Might have been a Quidnunc paper.

  241. There you are confloyd.

    Earlier, I read your comment for a weekend meet-up. I certainly will bear that thought in mind. I don’t think it will be a problem… Think Pink.. 🙂

  242. Betty
    September 20th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Rove is a double dealing good for nothing. He arranged the date change for the Fla. Primary for the DNC and the cause for all the consternation shutting out the election results (Hillary won Fla) ergo the electoral votes. At the time the Fla Legislature was all Republican.

  243. “Rove is a double dealing good for nothing.” What a nice way of saying that Karl Rove is an egg sucking dog and as my great grandma used to say, “Once an egg sucking dog, always an egg sucking dog.”

    Rove will say and do anything to anybody at any time to push his candidate or agenda forward. Never ever trust a word Mr. Rove says. He cannot be trusted by friend or foe. He simply can’t be trusted.

    Now where have we hard that? Let’s hope he and Barry never hook up on the same team.

  244. Sen. DeMint Warns of Possible Death for GOP

    Sept. 17: Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., speaks to the Values Voter Summit, held by the Family Research Council Action in Washington.

    WASHINGTON — One of the GOP’s most conservative senators and a tea-party favorite, Jim DeMint of South Carolina, says the Republican Party will be “dead” if it fails to live up to its principles again.

    DeMint has been critical of Republicans who he contends have not lived up to conservative values of limited government. He has long argued that when Republicans controlled Congress during the Bush administration, they spent and borrowed too much.

    Amid predictions that the GOP will regain control of the House, DeMint says that if GOP lawmakers don’t do what they say they’ll do, if they are in the majority, in his words, “the Republican Party’s dead.”

    DeMint made his comments in an interview aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
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    I agree with De Mint. Frankly, both parties are on the verge of extinction, because they no longer represent the American People. But last August Tony Blankley put an even finer point on it with which I also agree. It is a warning to establishment Republicans like Rove. Watch:

    “If the upcoming election results fail for any reason (including GOP campaign incompetence) to empower the public’s overwhelming desire to stop and reverse the “fundamental transformation” of the United States, I suspect the country will be rocked to its core within the following months and few years.

    A foul and dangerous brew is heating up that is composed of (1) the economic collapse that started in 2008; (2) the radical, “fundamentally transforming” left-wing agenda of the government; and, (3) the thwarting of the public will — with glee — by the entrenched, non-elected powers (in the courts, media, colleges and government bureaucracies) as they get into the face and under the skin of the cultural and political majority.

    It is insufferable (and will not long be suffered) to be lectured to and imposed upon by a ruling class that loathes our nation’s history, values, and accomplishments by those who are not, in fact, our genuine betters. They are neither better educated nor more profoundly morally versed.

    In fact, they are our intellectual and moral inferiors.

    Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan didn’t think the Declaration of Independence’s proclamation that human beings “are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights” should in any way affect her understanding of our constitutional rights, presumably, if any.

    Part of the building danger derives from the fact that Americans now tend to self-select our news, opinion and entertainment sources based on our political beliefs and cultural and religious preferences. As a result, the nation no longer shares a common database of civic reality.

    Many liberals have no sense of how deep and roiling this no-longer-just-conservative passion is. Or they assume it involves some small, mendacious, ideological faction rather than a broad-based, nonideological, building national majority, which it does.”

  245. Doug Schoen worked on the Bill Clinton campaigns. He was the partner of Mark Penn. The most important finding is that tea parties are comprised of average americans rather than wackos as elite media would have you believe.
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    Rasmussen, Schoen: Tea Party Revolt Is Under Way

    Will a tea party revolt conquer Washington?

    A new book, “Mad As Hell” by Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen, suggests this may just happen.

    Rasmussen and Schoen, Fox News contributors and among America’s most respected pollsters, reveal the unvarnished truth about the movement that is re-making the face of America. The book’s full title is “Mad As Hell: How the Tea Party Movement Is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System.”

    The media has yet to tell the full story of who the tea party is and what their real agenda is all about.

    The riotous tea parties and angry town hall meetings of last summer seemingly took everyone by surprise — especially in the liberal media.

    They have been dismissed as bigots, fanatics, and worse. Are these claims true?

    Rasmussen and Schoen investigated the movement through intensive polling and analysis. Their conclusion: Though conservative, tea partyers are mainstream Americans. “Mad as Hell” rips to shreds the toxic descriptions of the tea party heard on outlets such as MSNBC.

    In “Mad As Hell,” you will find out why leaders such as Sarah Palin are riding a huge wave of anger — and how this anger could even shock Americans with a surprise 2012 presidential election.

    You’ll also find out the startling fact that the “populist uprising” in the United States isn’t just about conservatives — but liberals, too — who no longer have faith in Washington’s elites, Wall Street, and even the mainstream media.

    The authors suggest a titanic political earthquake is just beginning and that few in the media or government grasp its scope and agenda.

    With the 2010 congressional elections fast approaching and the 2012 presidential election right around the corner, “Mad As Hell” is more than a “must read” — it’s a required read for every tea party loyalist and even those that fear them.

  246. HillaryforTexas: “The funniest thing to me about watching Bill sit there and be his usual genius self is that no matter how hard he tries to transfer that appeal to Obama, it’s an utter failure. The very fact of him sitting there being Bill is such a stark and utter contrast to the weak crap that the Dims are offering, it makes the Dims look even worse…. That’s just hilarious to me – that all of Bill’s efforts on his behalf will just sink him further. It’s like having Pavarotti sing an aria, then earnestly tell you to buy Yoko’s album, because she’s…um….a singer too, honest.”

    That was my reaction, too. So, I went back and listened more closely to the interview (made a transcript, even), and discovered a couple of important points that bear out this out:

    At one point, he paraphrases Alexander Hamilton (my hero), saying to Thomas Jefferson (WJC’s namesake and hero), “If you don’t pay your debts, you can’t get any more credit and we’ll never become a great country.”

    WJC was ostensibly referring to the $3 trillion hole Bush left us; but he was actually taking a backhanded slap at o and the $3 trillion o has added to the national debt, just as Hillary slapped down o in her recent foreign policy address when she spelled out the debt as a threat to national security. So this is one point where WJC was actually sticking it to o in Hillary’s wake, not praising him.

    Then there is the enlightened case for health care reform, showing that the US throws $1 trillion down the toilet each year to increase insurance companies’ profits. The facts and figures WJC gives are rock solid, but when he says he would have voted for the bill, it’s like o when he said he would have voted against the Iraq war – who cares? He couldn’t vote anyway – but WJC does not have to remind the educated viewer that the hell care law that was passed does nothing to cut insurance companies’ profits and in fact increases them, along with those of the drug companies: Profits went up 26% in 2009, yes, but they’re going up just as fast in 2010!

    WJC says that o faced the “opposite” of the economic situation he faced in 1992, when he “had to immediately move to reduce the deficit, to drive down interest rates, make it easier for people to get loans, get this economy going again.”

    In this respect, he points out that interest rates were already near zero beginning 2009, so in fact o had one less problem on his hands than WJC did in 1992!

    But when WJC says he “had to immediately move to reduce the deficit,” that is something o should have and could have done too!

    So in fact, far from the “opposite” of 1992, WJC was saying that o’s task was a far easier one than his own, but o took another tack: “There was nothing but the government to step in through the Fed keeping interest rates near zero, through doing that wildly unpopular TARP program…” thus, o walking in lockstep with Bush while putting all the blame on Bush.

    Further on this point, WJC says o faced an economy in which “There was no demand.” So what did o do? Instead of expanding and extending unemployment benefits or otherwise putting cash in people’s hands, o sprinkled tax credits on people who were unemployed or earned too little to pay taxes anyway! Thus, one-third of the “stimulus” went up in smoke, it had no effect on the economy and didn’t help anybody.

    Then WJC explains the next third of the “stimulus”: “one-third of it went to state and local governments to keep teachers and health care workers and others on the job, but that didn’t help anybody, that was just treading water…” Exactly, Bill, that was just treading water. So much for the second third of the “stimulus”… no effect on the economy and didn’t help anybody any more than the first third.

    As for the last third of the “stimulus”, WJC says “They have the rest of the stimulus money that’s going to be spent now – it’s all the clean energy money.” Now, that was new to me. I wasn’t aware of any allocations for clean energy, since I’m seeing none of it anywhere. But the question then arises in the educated listener’s mind: Why hasn’t o done anything about clean energy in the 20 months since the “stimulus” was passed? Why has he waited until now to spend it? Another slap at o.

    And here, WJC jumps into the breach with what he (hint Hillary) would be doing if he were in the White House now: “It’s obvious we’ve got to go where the jobs are, which is small business manufacturing and clean energy. We’ve got to get the money loosened up if we’re not going to do more stimulus. The banks have $1.8 trillion in cash, uncommitted loans. They’re afraid to loan [why?], we need to loosen it up. My (hint Hillary’s) personal favorite is giving on a guarantee, just like an SPA loan guarantee: for every loan they [the banks] give to a school, hospital, college, university building, any big office building unencumbered by any other debt, to retrofit the building [clean energy option] and let them pay it off through utility savings.”

    It’s obvious that WJC has no hope of seeing o implement this brilliant idea. Instead of pumping federal dollars into notoriously inefficient federal programs, just have the government guarantee private loans so that banks will no longer be afraid to lend their $1.8 trillion for the purposes of clean energy, with the incentive of paying off the loans through utility savings. Killing two birds with one stone that you don’t even have to pay for. That’s triangulation for you.

    Of course, there is the underlying assumption that o cares nothing about global warming, but especially does not realize the return on investment of clean energy. With Hillary’s help (just a simple explanation), the hitherto recalcitrant Chinese have realized it! As WJC says: “We can dominate that [clean energy] or be left in the dust of China and these other countries. China spent twice as much money as we did last year on clean energy technologies.” And here again, the close listener will note that WJC is referring to “last year”, i.e. when o was in power. Another slap at o: Why hasn’t o done this?

    There were thus so many hard knocks and backhanded slaps at o in this interview that, if anyone on o’s dwindling team was listening to the Jon Stewart interview, they will hate WJC even more than they have for the past decade.

    WJC ends with advice that would flush Dims down the toilet in November, saying there are two things Ds should campaign on:

    1) “We didn’t get you out of this hole.” Now that’s God’s truth, and a damned good talking point for the Reps.

    2) “Here’s what we’re going to do now.” Which is where the Dims, running fast from o’s “leadership”, have absolutely no ideas.

    This is why, HillaryForTexas, you and I both know that the applause during and at the end of the interview was all for WJC, and can’t rub off on o.

    On the contrary, o was an object of derision that got Stewart a few laughs, with his “Have you said this to him [o]?” and “Is there any room in your brain for like… sports scores?” and even his “I don’t know if that was a Jedi mind trick, but I believe you.” Stewart is a true progressive, not a PINO, and he’s also a funny guy, but he remained mum throughout the interview because he found nothing to mock in WJC’s display of intelligence and underlying lambasting of o.

  247. I hope it is obvious to one and all what big media is doing. The latest example was the Bill Clinton interview.

    1. first, the editors decide what the narrative will be. For example, the tea parties are evil, racist, stupid, delusional. The motive of course is to protect the elites and stifle the voice of the people.

    2. second, they select guests who will advance that narrative. They may select a tea party representative or they may select an opponent, in furtherance of their narrative.

    3. third, if the guest is supportive of the tea party, then they conduct a hostile interview, the purpose of which is to make that individual, and by extension the tea party as a whole look evil, racist, stupid or delusional. The questions they ask–the important ones are all designed to prove their pre determined narrative, as opposed to the truth.

    4. fourth, if the witness is opposed to the tea party, then they conduct what is in effect a direct examination designed to establish specific points in their narrative, such as the tea parties are weakening the republican party, but if the witness deviates as all from their script and introduces facts which contradict their narrative they cut him off.

    5. fifth, you saw this today in the Bill Clinton narrative. He came on Face The Nation to talk about the CGI yet Scheiffer tried to get him to condemn the tea parties and talk about how they are harming the Republicans. That is part of the big media narrative, which is why he was asked. Bill did a good job controlling the agenda and would not play big medias game.

    6. sixth, I recall an interview which occurred on that same network some thirty years ago. In that case, the guest was Admiral Richover, who was the father of our nuclear submarine program. He wanted to discuss education, whereas the pundits wanted to discuss the impact of naval appropriations on social programs. The admiral persisted, the media whores persisted, and when they used the excuse of the right of the public to know the answers to what they wanted to talk about, he told them they were nothing but a bunch of soap and deodorant salemen and the interview was terminated. They took a commercial and when they returned the media whores agreed to talk about what the Admiral came on to talk about.
    other side, then they set up a line of attack questions.

  248. I think this is fine just as long as they are honest about it. They should tell their viewer what they are, which is not not journalists, not jurists, and not seekers of the truth. Instead they are advocates. Then they should state plainly what their narrative is so people understand what they are trying to prove. And then they should tell their viewers that they will hear from guests who support their narrative and they will conduct a softball interview of those people and will ask them leading questions to make points which support their narrative, and cut him off if they deviate at all from it. They should also tell their viewers that they will hear from other witnesses who do not support their narrative and they will conduct a hostile hammer and tongues cross examination of those people in an effort to make them look stupid, in furtherance of their narrative. Big media people are whores and they need to be honest about it.

  249. This would be liberating for them because now they are living a lie, and most people see it. Also, it would help create a more informed public, which is what they are forever blathering about, as they try to indoctrinate us. But in truth, it was never about that. It was always about money, power and dumbing down the public whenever they can.

  250. jeswezey
    September 20th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    OUTSTANDING ANALYSIS!!!!!!!!!! SPOT ON ON EVERY POINT!!!! I’d tell you to get out of my head, but I’d rather MORE people saw things like what you described than less!

    Not only did I hear every one of those subtle jabs, you could also hear him tell every one of o’s supporters in Congress ‘..He has thrown you under the bus. I can’t save all of you but you have a fighting chance if you do this..’ That struck me as the brilliant politician that he is positioning himself to demonstrate how she will be the savior of the party. I’ll bet my meager underemployed paycheck that Browm in Cali, should he win, will owe Hillary BIG TIME. And THAT is the only reason President Clinton is going to stump for him.

    Hillary 2012

  251. jeswezey
    September 20th, 2010 at 1:57 am
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    Excellent analysis. But it may be too clever by the halves. If the people perceive it as analytically as you do that is a home run. More likely they will get only a general sense that there is, or could be a plan. But if that is the case, they may wonder if Obama for all his brilliance understands it, and if he does understand it why is he not explaining it to us in like Bill does, in ways we can understand. And if he is not explaining it to us then how can he be a leader? Is this what Obama really meant when he said the difference between now and 1994 is you have me. A more benign interpretation would be that all Bill is trying to do here is to provide Obama with some useful ideas through his media propaganda ministry in the event that he and Obama are not conversing though normal channels, because of Obama’s busy party schedule. After all, even in a depression, a hip president does on bread alone. There must be caviar.

  252. Not only did I hear every one of those subtle jabs, you could also hear him tell every one of o’s supporters in Congress ‘..He has thrown you under the bus. I can’t save all of you but you have a fighting chance if you do this..’ That struck me as the brilliant politician that he is positioning himself to demonstrate how she will be the savior of the party. I’ll bet my meager underemployed paycheck that Browm in Cali, should he win, will owe Hillary BIG TIME. And THAT is the only reason President Clinton is going to stump for him.
    ————————————————-
    Right. Why else would he stay this involved in the political process. He has plenty to do with CGI, and he has health challenges that would militate against this unless he and Hillary have plans for 2012.

  253. From a couple of commenters over at hotair, for your pleasure:

    I don’t even think he’ll be the DEM nominee in 2012.

    Oink on September 19, 2010 at 9:42 PM

    Yes and that’s a scary scenario. At this point he’s pretty much unelectable. If someone, especially Hillary challenges him and wins all bets are off. Hillary can win against anyone we field. Not saying she will win just that she has a shot. That’s scary.

    Oldnuke on September 19, 2010 at 10:06 PM

  254. HillaryforTexas
    September 20th, 2010 at 3:03 am

    They have always know that she outclasses their best on her worst day….

    Hillary 2012

  255. wbboei
    September 20th, 2010 at 2:54 am

    How sad it will be to go down in history as the party president. But he IS a cool cat…

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

  256. The Democrats (led by Reid) would have done anything to defeat Hillary—and they did it stealthily. The GOP is taking a page from that book. There is an all-too-familiar episode re-playing itself for voters to witness this season.
    ————————————-
    I am not sure that is right. I do not think he was the initiator of this. But given the role that he did play, the Nevada senate race takes on a greater degree of urgency. He needs to be held fully accountable for what he has done to hurt the country. In sum, he needs to be defeated.

  257. I will say one thing for Reid. He is butt ugly. And he reminds you of Mortimer Snurd. He might have had a strong challenge from Mike Castle if things had been different. Damned ugly too. In both cases it is more than skin deep.

  258. TheRock: “Browm in Cali, should he win, will owe Hillary BIG TIME.”

    Don’t forget that he will owe Bill (thus Hillary) even if he loses. These are chits we’re talking about.

    “And THAT is the only reason President Clinton is going to stump for him.”

    wbboei: “Right. Why else would he stay this involved in the political process?”

    Well, there is also the fact that he is solicited for these interviews because his opinion and ideas have weight, and that is not just because he is a former president – no other former president is queried about the Tea Party or Jerry Brown, etc. It is simply because they have weight. He keeps abreast of issues, does a lot of reading, expresses intelligent ideas, and has the proverbial “man in the street” in mind at all times.

  259. I should add, in deference to “former presidents”, that no one gives a rat’s ass what the current president thinks, if he thinks at all…

  260. “Hillary can win against anyone we [Reps] field.”

    Yes, Reps should remember that 12% of Republican women were ready to vote for Hillary in 2008. I don’t know about the men, but that’s still a sizable chunk of support from across the aisle, not to mention her Republican colleagues in the Senate who held her in high esteem and were comfortable with the idea of her presidency.

    The “failure” of her run was the fault of the Dem establishment. 2008 exit polls showed she would have won with 58% of the votes, and that was 5 months after she had ended her campaign. Imagine what a margin she would have had if she had continued the campaign!

  261. Barry’s gonna be in Philly (again) today; last time it was to advise school kids but this time its raising bucks for Joe Sestak … the primary candidate who outed WH for allegedly offering a job to step out of Specter’s way.

  262. To add to the “sizable chunk of support from across the aisle”, I think a lot of Reps realize that Hillary was once a stalwart Republican, up until the Rep convention of 1968 when she got off the bus. I think it took a lot of guts for a liberal teenager in that decade of the Kennedys to resist the attraction of the Dem party and stay Republican. “Liberal” at the time was strongly associated with the right side of the Civil Rights movement.

    My family was all Republican, for example, but I went Democratic around 1962, and very strongly in 1964-5. Only my mom followed suit, like Hillary’s.

    But there’s something else that attracts Reps to Hillary as well: they sense in her a sharp-minded manager with an eye to fiscal responsibility, well-substantiated views on many issues, and a high level of ideaphoria. This is the kind of person the Reps try to recruit for their own ranks, except that many of these people are usually “conservative” and appeal to the backward penchant in American society. A lot of Republicans are not really backward. Hillary is on their playing field.

    Hillary would also appeal to the Tea Party, which is not so right-wing as it seems. I think the Tea Party began in earnest, but namelessly, in 2005, and first made itself felt in Nov 2006, against the Reps. In 2008, it went into open rebellion under the PUMA flag. I have explained before here how I calculate the PUMA movement to be upwards of 30 million voters who were disgusted with the idea of voting for o, and that how those 30 million melded quickly into an anti-o coalition just 3 months into o’s term.

    The primary focus of the Tea Party is the spiraling debt – the reason it coalesced “out of nowhere” on April 15 last year. Hillary (and Bill) are already answering that call to bring down the debt, and the Tea Party cannot be unaware of this. The Tea Party (aka PUMA) wanted Hillary in 2008, and they will go for her again in 2012, notwithstanding their current response to Palin and the Reps, because polls have shown that Tea Party members are above average in education and income. I believe they are thinking people.

  263. More detail about jobs – make that O’s job: Before his fundraisers for Sestak, Obama will participate in a CNBC town-hall discussion of jobs at Washington’s Newseum. Tuesday evening, he’ll headline a fundraiser in Philadelphia for the Democratic National Committee. Tickets for that event start at $10,000.
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/20/obama-heads-philadelphia-stump-sestak/?test=latestnews

  264. WHOA!!!!!!!!!

    That NQ link many posted is devastating! But everyone on this site sensed this about Squat in 2008! We should be running the country. hehehehehe.

    Some more from the NQ post “Is Barack Losing it?”

    “More people are ready to talk. It’s already happening. And more is coming. The media won’t be able to ignore it anymore. This administration, the leadership in Congress, they need to account for how they have totally mishandled the responsibilities given to them. That accounting is coming soon enough in November – we are going to get what we deserve. But I am still hopeful it is not too late to save 2012. . . .”

    “The last time we saw this level of paranoia at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue a guy known as Tricky Dick Nixon was roaming the halls. Looks like the ghost of Nixon is haunting Barack Obama.”

  265. Barack Obama’s planned assault on the Tea Party smacks of desperation

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100054343/barack-obamas-planned-assault-on-the-tea-party-smacks-of-desperation/

    The New York Times has a major piece this morning outlining the White House’s response to last week’s dramatic surge in Republican primaries by Tea Party candidates. After months of mocking and sneering at the Tea Party movement and largely ignoring its rising success, Obama’s advisers are now contemplating a major campaign against it. According to The Times…..

    read on…….

    The Dems have finally run out of gas and have nothing to run on, voters do not like negative campaigns like this, if thats all the Dems can offer then they will pay a heavy price.

  266. Holthemaccountable: “He’ll headline a fundraiser in Philadelphia for the Democratic National Committee. Tickets for that event start at $10,000.”

    It will be interesting to see if the event is well-attended. I know 3 people – 1 in the Philly area – who have enough money to throw out the window on an event like that, and often have. But 1 of those people is a Rep and the couple in Philly are Hillary supporters. I’ll call to see if they’re interested or even aware of this shindig.

  267. wbboei,

    C. 1998, Gingrich and the Impeachers (sounds like a singing group) acted with full knowledge. Bill had been Presdient for 6 years and was doing a good job. He was balancing the budget and paying down the National Debt. His policies were working. It was those policies that they chose to cripple (by attacking Bill) and, in 2001, to dismantle.

    Why would we expect them to have changed their basic policies and goals now?

  268. Pursuant to moononpluto’s find, this is the continuation of the UK article:

    “Poll after poll shows that the Tea Party’s anger over the rise of Big Government, the mounting budget deficit, excessive government spending, and spiraling entitlement programs are now shared by a clear majority of the American people. If the Obama team believes it will make political capital out of slandering the views of the Tea Party it is hugely misreading the general mood of the country. The grassroots organisation’s stunning success is symbolic of a deep-seated rejection across the United States of a “transformational” president who is making America poorer, weaker, more indebted and significantly less free.

    The White House’s planned assault is yet another example of an elitist presidency that is spectacularly out of touch with the American electorate, and increasingly digging its own political grave. Unfortunately for President Obama, it is his own policies, rather than the ideals of the Tea Party, which the American public increasingly view as extreme.”

    Again, it’s the deficit, the debt, that is the central focus of the Tea Party. They’re not even crying for jobs jobs jobs!

    At least the Reps have one idea: Repeal as much as they can of o’s shit and impeach him if they can. That’s very appealing to a lot of people, including me.

    All the Dims can think of is denying o 3 times before the crack of dawn. Peter did that to Jesus and got to be head of the church!

  269. turndownobama
    “C. 1998, Gingrich and the Impeachers… acted with full knowledge. Bill had been Presdient for 6 years and was doing a good job. He was balancing the budget and paying down the National Debt. His policies were working. It was those policies that they chose to cripple (by attacking Bill) and, in 2001, to dismantle.

    Why would we expect them to have changed their basic policies and goals now?”
    ====

    That’s just the point. They haven’t changed their basic goals; but now the people want the Impeachers to take another try, because the guy in the WH is doing just the opposite of Bill, on all the items you point out and more. The people don’t want o any more. 21 months is already too much. If the Impeachers can take him out, that will be that much gained for the country.

    Incidentally, I’m much less critical of Biden, who would take over in such a case. I’m sure Biden would listen to the Clintons and might even bring the country back from the abyss, given the same amount of time (ie 2 years) as the current potus.

  270. And pursuant to my previous post, that sheds a whole new light on the possibility of a Biden-Hillary job swap, now, doesn’t it? If they do that, it would make Hillary president in 2011 and she could still run for 2 terms, going from 2011 to 2021 – a 10-year president!

  271. In my own tiny neck of the woods, I can feel the worm turning.

    Since I freelance for the local papers (all now owned by the same company) there are certain viewpoints which are frowned upon (but which I write about, anyway).

    One is a cement plant which “green” types have been trying to shut down for years and when I write articles about the scientific facts rather than just bashing the company, like the larger Times Union does, I can sense the disagreement from other reporters and some editors.

    They run my stories anyway because you know, there’s space to fill and the reporting is accurate.

    The editorial staff of this paper has now agreed to a meeting with the ownership of this company (which I believe I will also attend) which shows me that the meme of bashing industry in this economic wasteland is finally being reconsidered.

    Before I started covering the company, about six months ago, 99 percent of the stories had been completely negative; typical you’re-killing-unborn-babies-with-your-toxic-emission BS screamed without a shred of scientific evidence to back it up.

    And screamed loudly by a group headed by two women who had too much time on their hands and not enough to do and who were accorded all the respect and consideration the lib press displayed toward the incompetent, unqualified current POTUS.

    This meeting is a turning-the-page-moment up here which, I think (hopefully) mirrors what will happen in the MSM.

  272. jes,

    I didn’t mean the Impeachers of 98 would try to impeach Obama. In 98 they used impeachment against Bill’s policies. Now they want back in power to continue against Bill’s policies.

    By your recent post, Biden (and/or Hillary) would be impeachment insurance for Obama; Gingrich et al would rather have Obama a DINO than let the real Dems back in.

  273. http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/only-5-of-laid-off-californians-have-found-new-jobs/19636855/?icid=main%7Cmain%7Cdl5%7Csec3_lnk3%7C171566

    California appears to be slow in economic recovery. So, the idea that the Dims had of a quick recover for the country, surely in time for 2012, appear to we in doubt.

    I guess being President is a lot harder than they told him it would be. It is Really hard, and the economy is just not cooperating. I cannot stand it when he whines.

  274. Opposition accelerating the closer we come to the election

    Rasmussen :
    Health Care Law
    61% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

    Sixty-one percent (61%) of Likely U.S. Voters now at least somewhat favor repeal of the new national health care law, including 50% who Strongly Favor it. That’s up eight points from a week ago and the highest level of opposition measured since late May.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 33% of Likely Voters oppose repeal. Since the passage of the bill in late March, a majority of voters have consistently favored repeal of the new law, with support ranging from a low of 53% to a high of 63%.

    Only 33% say the health care plan will be good for the country, the lowest level measured since late July. Fifty-six percent (56%) disagree and believe the new law will be bad for the United States.

  275. I’ll call to see if they’re interested or even aware of this [$10,000] shindig.
    ———————–
    Good.

  276. Interesting:

    The Christine O’Donnell/Jimmy Carter Quiz

    Who said each of the following quotes: Christine O’Donnell, or Jimmy Carter?

    1. “To my amazement, I was besieged with questions about my sex life. At first I thought this was just a passing joke, but I was wrong. It became the dominant news story of my candidacy, and my popularity dropped precipitously. Any attempt to explain the Christian theology behind my answer only served to keep the issue alive.”

    2. “I have an absolute, total commitment as a human being, as an American, as a religious person to Israel … Israel is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.”

    3. “Feeling a bit presumptuous, I wrote to [an evolutionary scientist] diasagreeing with this premise and asserting that there were factors other than pure happenstance that influenced the course of evolution.”

    4. “Because I’m just human and I’m tempted and Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. The Bible says, ‘Thou shalt not commit adultery.’ Christ said, ‘I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery.’ I’ve looked on a lot of women with lust. I’ve committed adultery in my heart many times…. This is something that God recognizes, that I will do and have done, and God forgives me for it. But that doesn’t mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don’t consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who’s loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness.”

    5. “This set of principles, rooted in my Christian faith, has both shaped me and been shaped by my personal experiences, and it remains to this day a central element of my identity.”

    6. (Quote from someone commenting about the candidate running for office) “It is not presumptuous to say, as there is enough evidence already, that a vast number of [O’Donnell or Carter] supporters consist of aggressive evangelicals whose main goal is to ‘Christianize’ our country; that is to say, to convert Americans to a particular brand of religious obscurantism. Needless to say, most, or many [O’Donnell/Carter]-fundamentalists despise complete intellectual and religious liberty.”

    7. “Being born again is a new life, not of perfection but of striving, stretching, and searching — a life of intimacy with God through the Holy Spirit.”

    8. “But if we aspire to grow as human beings, we should struggle to close the gap by making our inner selves truer reflections of our own highest values, which, for me, grow from my Christian faith.”

    9. “…There are basic principles that, for me, have never changed. For a Christian, the life and teachings of Jesus offer a sound moral foundation that includes all the most basic elements that should guide us.”

    10. “Yes, I have my personal beliefs, and these questions come from statements I made over fifteen years ago. I was in my twenties, and very excited and passionate about my new-found faith. But I assure you my faith has matured, and when I go to Washington, D.C., it’ll be the Constitution on which I base all of my decisions, not my personal beliefs.”

    Only the last one is O’Donnell. The rest were Carter. He’s a crazy religious nutttttt!!!!! Run for the hills!!!!!

  277. HillaryForTexas: “Only the last one is O’Donnell. The rest were Carter. He’s a crazy religious nutttttt!!!!! Run for the hills!!!!!”

    Actually, I don’t see what’s crazy about any of these statements. Carter was indeed very serious about his faith, O’Donnell seems to be too. Carter didn’t do anything but reason with people about his interpretations of the Bible, believe him or not, but I don’t see where that influenced his otherwise lousy policies.

  278. H4T,That was amazing and the only normal statement is #10. #4 must have been when Bill C. was trying to get Carter out of Haiti (I think it was Haiti), and he (Carter) was enamored with the wife of some big shot. I’ll have to look that up in the book. It’s a funny story. I don’t know if I really wanted to know that Carter has been fornicating in his mind all this years, LOL!

  279. jeswezy, I must not have been clear – it was snark. I don;t think any of the statements are crazy either, but if any candidate today said the same things Carter said, they’d be labeled a scary theocrat.

    I have no desire to put some kind of gag rule on religious folk running for office. If they have a faith, they are free to discuss it if they want, and especially when asked point blank questions. So long as they don’t want to legislate against “lust in the heart”, I could care less.

  280. Amazing Hillary wastes not a minute of her 24/7 schedule.Take a look:

    ______________________________

    Daily Appointments: Public Schedule for September 20, 2010
    Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:14 -0500

    Public Schedule for September 20, 2010

    Washington, DC

    September 20, 2010

    ——————————————————————————–

    *For more information about media access to events held at the United Nations, call the UN Office of Media Accreditation: (212) 963-6934.

    SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON:
    9:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton participates in an Ad Hoc Liaison Committee breakfast meeting, at the InterContinental hotel in New York City.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 8:00 a.m.in the Vanderbilt Room.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 8:15 a.m. in the Vanderbilt Room.

    9:20 a.m. Secretary Clinton attends a Gulf Cooperation Council Foreign Ministers meeting, at the InterContinental hotel in New York City.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    12:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton signs two memoranda of understanding regarding Haiti recovery projects, at the InterContinental hotel in New York City.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 11:00 a.m. in the Manhattan Room.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 11:30 a.m. in the Manhattan Room.

    Secretary Clinton, Haitian Prime Minister Bellerive, the Inter-American Development Bank, the International Financial Corporation, World Bank and Sae-A Trading Co. Ltd. sign a MOU to support economic development in Haiti.

    Secretary Clinton, French Foreign Minister Kouchner and Haitian Prime Minister Bellerive sign a MOU committing to cooperate with the Government of Haiti in the reconstruction and expansion of the Hopital Universitaire d’Etat d’Haiti.

    1:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton participates in a special session of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, co-chaired by Haitian Prime Minister Bellerive and former President Clinton, at the InterContinental hotel in New York City.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 11:45 a.m. in the Manhattan Room.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 12:15 p.m. in the Manhattan Room.

    3:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang, at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)
    Pool should meet at 3:00 p.m. in Suite 24M.

    4:10 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Mexican Foreign Minister Espinosa, at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)
    Pool should meet at 3:40 p.m. in Suite 24M.

    5:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a reception for female Heads of State and Foreign Ministers, at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    6:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with EU High Representative Ashton, at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)
    Pool should meet at 5:45 p.m. in Suite 24M.

    7:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Israeli Defense Minister Barak, at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)
    Pool should meet at 6:30 p.m. in Suite 24M.

  281. Yes, ABM92, it really shows what a workaholic she is. She runs everybody ragged and keeps cool in the midst of it, turning on a dime between meetings and bringing her all to bear on each of them.

    That’s why she’s always got a maximum out of those who work for her. It’s the power of example. She had a staff of 55 in the Senate and they all showed up at 7 am and worked their asses off until 7 pm.

    It has been said that Hillary “demands” loyalty from her staff, but that’s not it. She doesn’t “demand” it, but that’s what she gets just the same, by being herself. Of course, it helps to choose the right people for a given job. But once you’ve found them, you have to manage them. That means giving them pointers and good instructions, judging their performance, and showing them how important they in the job you the manager have to do. Hillary is a CEO in disguise.

  282. Pursuant to “CEO in disguise”:

    I remember one debate in the primaries where the moderator actually asked a good question (yes, really!). He said all of the candidates were from the Legislative branch (except Richardson), and how did they view themselves changing branches to the Executive?

    I remember only two answers.

    The first was o: “I don’t see myself as the CEO of the federal government.”

    The second was Hillary: “My style of governing will be very much hands-on.”

    In fact, o was telling the truth for once, and thereby completely disqualified himself for the job of POTUS, who is indeed the CEO of the federal government before all else.

    Hillary’s answer was also truthful, based on her real experience, and qualified herself quite neatly for the executive position she was applying for.

    As I said, I don’t remember the other answers; but, given o’s truthful answer at this point, he should have lost a lot of support that night.

  283. wbboei,

    C. 1998, Gingrich and the Impeachers (sounds like a singing group) acted with full knowledge. Bill had been Presdient for 6 years and was doing a good job. He was balancing the budget and paying down the National Debt. His policies were working. It was those policies that they chose to cripple (by attacking Bill) and, in 2001, to dismantle.

    Why would we expect them to have changed their basic policies and goals now?
    ——————–
    Turndown, I am not nearly as invested in that part of history as you and most people on this blog are. And, it is clear from his comments that Bill isn’t either. If that was all we had to worry about as a country, I suppose I could work up a sense of outrage. If you look back on Bill’s presidency mindful of what has come since, and especially from the vantage point of the left who hated Bill and loved Obama only to be left at the altar and the desperation he sees in the Republicans who have a tiger by the tail with the tea parties he comes across not as slick willie, but as a statesman with real gravitas. If you look back at what the Republicans did at that time, they look petty and vindictive and in the end they failed. Rather than dwelling in the past, I would rather concentrate on the future. But you know something success is its own reward and so is failure. I make a distinction in the case of Hillary. In her case, I am not prepared to say let bygones be bygones. Why not? Because Obama is president, the country is sinking and we need Hillary in 2012 to have any hope of turning this thing around. In other words, what they did to Hillary, primarily her own party is vitally important to our future, which is why I focus on it instead. That said, you still have not answered my question, but that is okay because there is no good answer and that is why I referred to it as a conundrum.

  284. I called the couple in Philly and got the wife. They’re still Dems and have been “harrassed” by the local party to give money because of their long history of generous donations, but she says they have only given to Hillary’s campaign since 2008. Like me. Going to cough up $10 K to see o? She was silent for a few seconds and then changed the subject…

  285. The view is arguing in the background. Sometimes I would just like to just push the eject botton.

    Oh well, I get a kick out of those saying they were deceived. Give me a break, we knew the difference, and could see through the crap, plus realized nothing was there. They are trying to make themselves feel better because they were so STUPID to have voted for O. They are responsible, and no one else. There was enough information there, and all of the O voters owe the rest of the country an apology.

  286. HillaryforTexas,

    I seldom listen to Beck but I had the radio on this morning in the car while running errands and I was ROTFLMFAO about the O’Donnell/witchcraft distraction. They were funny as he!!.

    I’m working on the pc now and have Rush on and he’s hitting the wichcraft thing hard, too.

    These people are out of their ever loving minds! I’m wavering between giggling and disgust. Now the rethugs are playing the ‘race’ card against one of their own, just substituting ‘witchcraft’ for ‘racist.” What’s worse, is the ‘wichcraft’ accusation is limited to and directed at women!

    It’s so creepy. the women-bashing is bringing back horrid memories of the HRC campaign.

  287. And the funniest thing I have seen so far is over at hillbuzz where one bright poster photoshopped a pic of Henry Reid as Endora (instead of Agnes Moorehead).

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

  288. Jan H:

    President Clinton’s remarks on Ground zero mosque are the sanest words spoken on this topic by any politician. If the center is not really a victory mosque they are building there, they will definitely heed his advice. But I strongly believe that it is a victory mosque and the terrorists are saying to us We Fxxx You and we have idiots like Obama and Bloomberg supporting the terrorist plot on our own land in the name of religious freedom

  289. Boy, they are running scared and wetting their pants and calling in their media cabana boys to pump up the propaganda.

    Guy on ABC just informed us that the recession ended over a year ago. Really? Really? This is just laughable.

  290. That bit on the mosque by Bill was brilliant. He basically put the onus on the IIMAM to reassure and PROVE that his intent is peaceful by publicly denouncing the 9/11 terrorists and bringing up the Muslims killed by these beasts.

    And if the Imam actually did that, convincingly? I’d then be okay with it. But the longer he slips and slides and talks around the issue of CONDEMNING specific terrorist acts and organizations (rather than just saying, “Well, my group is not like that”) the more I suspect his motives.

    Stand up in front of a microphone and utterly denounce all of them, with feeling. Risk permanently alienating yourself from and flatly repudiating those violent factions that you claim to have nothing to do with. Go ahead.

  291. HillaryforTexas
    September 20th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Guy on ABC just informed us that the recession ended over a year ago. Really? Really? This is just laughable.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Yeah, sure, The Great Recession has been over. Can’t you tell?

    Sure, the indicators haven’t caught up yet: joblessness and underemployment aren’t improving, home foreclosures just hit a new high, yadda yadda yadda.

    So…..what was my point???

  292. Jan H, Bill is brilliant…he put the Imam in the corner and on a rock…if he wants it he is going to have to do what Bill has said to do…the man is BRILLIANT! It must be why all the others hate him so…LOL! Jealousy!

    I am so enjoying Rove getting his ass handed to him by women…. I might even send her some money tooo!

    I hate that freaking Rove, Gingrich, Mittens and all the old POS’s that told lies about Bill and Hillary that we’ve had to live with for 20 years…

    O’Donnell sure is separating the keepers from the garbage, isn’t she!!!

  293. Bill did it so softly and politely, too. No way anyone could accuse him of being anti-muslim. He just smiled and chatted and backed the guy right into a corner where he has to put his money where his mouth is and prove his supposed intent.

  294. Yet if you want to find real political rage — the kind of rage that makes people compare President Obama to Hitler, or accuse him of treason — you won’t find it among these suffering Americans. You’ll find it instead among the very privileged, people who don’t have to worry about losing their jobs, their homes, or their health insurance, but who are outraged, outraged, at the thought of paying modestly higher taxes.
    ——————————————————————-
    What a loon. This statement shows how out of touch with reality Paul Krugman has become. The thrust of his argument is that the rich are the ones who hate Obama and disparage him. Frankly, all you need to do is examine the FEC records, and who has been visiting the White House since he took office to see that far from disparaging him, they are the ones who who coronated and installed him. That 1% who controls 23% of our wealth, otherwise known as the elites. Interestingly, Paul’s argument contradicts the big media narrative that the tea parties are the culpable party who harbor irrational hated toward their black Jesus, to borrow an expression from his former spiritual advisor. That particular lie is contradicted by the recent findings of Rasmussen and Shoen which reveal that the tea party people are simply loyal middle class Americans who realize they are being screwed out of their personal liberty and economic security by Obama and his enablers. The truth is people like Krugman and big media are running out of ammunition to defend Obama. Their arguments have become ineffectual and banal for precisely that reason. When a former Nobel Prize winning economist begins to sound like the deranged Jeanne Garafulo, you begin to understand why our educational system is in trouble.

  295. jeswesey, 12:01

    That is too funny, she has only given to Hillary since 08′, but won’t say whethers she having dinner with the “One”. ROTFLMAO!!

    Jan H, Thankyou!

  296. confloyd,

    Yeah,
    O’Donnell has thrown a hige out-of-left-field monkey wrench into their plans and Rove does not know what to do.

    This incident makes me even more convinced Rove and the Dims including Bradzilla conspired to take the “08 nomination away from HRC.

  297. What Bill Clinton advised about the mosque issue is what Obama should have said right at the start.

    This is the difference between a true leader and a dud.

  298. wbboei.

    They’re ALL starting to sound this way!

    “When a former Nobel Prize winning economist begins to sound like the deranged Jeanne Garafulo…”

    BTW,

    Here’s more from the Insider story posted yesterday.

    “And regardless of whether or not we survive the November midterms with a majority, Nancy Pelosi must step down or be removed as Speaker. That is an absolute must – I cannot emphasize that point enough. She is political poison on the national level.’

  299. I also believe the rethugs WILL NOT do much to upset Obama’s apple cart if they get in….its much easier to get things past Odumbo than Hillary….they know Hillary will stand her ground and only give a little, just ask some foreign countries….they say she’s plenty tough!

  300. wbboei, Well I know we are suppose to forgive, but its hard when they still are doing the very same thing against women….they haven’t changed one iota.

    I hope this O’Donnell lady keeps hitting Rove below the belt with a smile.

  301. basil 9, I have said that over and over, and have been beaten over the head a million times for having that opinion, but the truth will tell when we hear mum after they take over the House…they’ll do just enough to keep the uninformed believing their crap.

  302. Best sign reported at at teaparty rally, held by one of those grizzlies:

    “Hang on, America. Mama’s coming!”

  303. Let me say it to Paul Krugman straight out. The people who oppose Obama are not the elites. The people who oppose Obama are the middle class. And the reason the middle class oppose him is because they are the ones who will bear the burden of his ill conceived and misbegotten policies. Them and their children. Are there wealthy people who disparage Obama? Sure. But for them it is just parlor conversation whereas for the middle class it is a matter of survival. The rise of unemployment, and the addition of 3 trillion in debt and the adoption of policies that have widened and deepened this recession are reality for them. And when they see him holding these gala parties while they suffer, hate or at least a deep sense of resentment are foreseeable. I have done business at Sloane School at MIT, right across the river from Obama’s second Mecca Harvaaad. I never realized the air was so thin in those buildings it produces delusional thinking there whereas I know it does on the other side of the river acros. Evidently I was wrong on the first count.

  304. Until we get rid of the Rove’s, Starr’s, Delays, Pooplosi’s, Brazoid’s and all the rest of the back stabbers, we can’t have a real honest election. These folks are gamers who destroy the one person/one vote that our great country stands for.

    May they all BURN in hell!

  305. I love it,Fox is saying the democrats are scared of the tea party….not as much as Rove is and his republicans!

    They are a force not to be harnessed by money and power!

  306. OMG!!!!!!!!!!

    Rush is playing a part of the Squat’s townhall and his so-called supporters are giving him he!! in the audio.

    One woman (a government worker) said she and her family are looking at returning to a time of eating franks and beans.

    Another guy says he got his law degree and wanted to go into public service but there are no jobs, he can’t afford his student loan repayments and can’t afford to get married. He said he was inspired by squat’s ’08 campaign but the promises haven’t been kept. (paraphrasing).

    They were hand-picked for this meeting and evidently squat had a hard time filling the hall. Rush said it wa clear by Sqwuat’s appearance and responses that these questions weren’t expected.

    Anyone see that town hall?

    here’s more from the woman:

    “I’m a chief financial officer for vet service, a middle class American. I’m exhausted by defending you, your administration and the mantle of change. I was told you would change things in a meaningful way for the middle class. I’m waiting. We thought we were past the hotdogs and franks era of our lives. Is this our new reality?

  307. H4T, OMG! That video was really something….she nailed his ass to the floor.

    I bet some heads rolled after that…his people let this one slip by!!

    Is this month the “revenge of the womanhood” or what??

  308. Oh, gag me. There is a link to his response at the bottom. He wanders around umming and ahhing, telling her about student loans, and being able to buy health insurance, (she’s a veteran, dodo, she already has that) and that the credit card companies have to freaking notify her if there is a rate increase (they didn’t cap it, of course.)

    None of which addresses her pain and concern.

  309. HillaryforTexas
    September 20th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    MUST SEE VIDEO

    Obama gets BLINDSIDED by a supporter at his townhall today. Those things are tightly controlled, so she must have been a big supporter to get a ticket.

    He laughs at her when she informs him she is tired of defending his sorry ass:
    &&&&&&&

    1. Oooo-SNAP! What a fully loaded question from an avowed (former?) Obama supporter.

    2. God, I’d love to hear his response…anyone have a like to the whole thing?

  310. H4T, His response is even better, it took him 4:15 to complete 2 sentences and he never answered her question….compared to Bill’s answers….its like the difference between and kindergartener and a Yale graduate.

  311. HillaryforTexas
    MUST SEE VIDEO

    Great Video, ending with “Is this my new reality?” Unfortunately it doesn’t continue with o’s response and the crowd’s reaction…

    Maybe o just had nothing to say?

  312. Obama needs to remember to “never leave home without Toto”!

    This almost seems like a war between Obama and Bill’s speaking ability??

  313. Hey, maybe the House dems decided it was time for Obama to do some of the townhall’s like they did last year, LOL!

  314. It seems nothing happens by chance in Washington. Anyone else feel like Squat is undergoing a sort of Chinese water-torture inflicted by the powers that be and planned for all along? (a kind of advanced October surprise?)

    I still haven’t seen the video but I listened to several speakers as well as Squat’s painfully inadequate responses to them.

    Anyone else think Squat’s finally being thrown under the bus? (anonymously, of course). And anyone else think he’s just going to crumble under this assault? Hillbuzz has theorized for the past two years that Squat is going to have a major MSM meltdown moment.

  315. basil9, I agree, the powers that be know he can’t take criticism, so they are throwing him out in Townhall’s and letting the “real folk” in. LOL!
    I agree he will crumble, I just hope he does sooon! I am so enjoying this!

  316. The CNBC report isn’t so bad: they’re looking at realities and public opinion and have an opinion of their own which is pretty enlightened.

    It’s the National Economic Research outfit that issued that incredible report about the recession “officially” ending in June 2009 and how a double-dip recession was now “technically” impossible, which CNBC reporters explained with a smirk on their faces.

  317. Wow!

    Check this Rasmussen numbers. 52% of likely voters say their views are closer to Palin’s than Squat’s.

    “In a revealing portrait of likely voters in this midterm cycle, a majority of respondents to Rasmussen’s survey say that Sarah Palin more closely represents their point of view than does Barack Obama. The man who won the 2008 presidential election, on the other hand, only resonates with four in ten likely voters:

    Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.

    Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.”

    Oh, and O’Donell has raised more than $1.3 million since her primary win. After this witchcradt brou-ha-ha I really hope she wins the Delaware Senate race.

  318. Oh JEEZUS! If anyone needed proof Squat was Jimmy Carter, check JC’s comment about himself:

    “I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents,” former President Jimmy Carter told NBC News.

    Another failed POTUS with an overly inflated self view.

  319. Here’s NoQuarter’s take on the town hall.

    “Remember. This was a handpicked group of supporters. If dyed in the wool Dems who voted for the Golden Child are hitting him square on with this, just imagine the bloodletting that awaits outside of this protective sphere. Chilling and inspiring.”

  320. JIMMY CARTER…..ha,ha,ha,ha! He is superior to Bill C’s. Oh right Jimmy just got back from NK….big f-ing deal….Carter needs to go back to pickin’ peanuts!

  321. Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s..
    *******
    He has no views other than the contradictory ones that are written for him…so 40% agree with no views???

  322. Carter, nobody cares what he thinks about anything. He’s never asked for interviews because no one would watch. I think even Dubya would attract more of a crowd than Carter. But W has the sense to lie low now.

    WJC is the only one anyone cares to listen to, people don’t want to hear the other retired POTUSs. What really strikes me is that people don’t even want to hear the present potus, except if they like sick jokes.

  323. confloyd
    September 20th, 2010

    Yes, finaly BC is helping us even the score again. I’m hoping H4T didn’t think I was overly zealous advocating the importance of listening to those (3) Stewart interview with President Clinton and happy Jesweezy took the hint and listened well and processed exactly what BC was talking about without directly insulting Obama and the Dem Party. Ya hafta learn the Clinton speak- otherwise the redundancy of ‘just how many times can you say Obama is a loser, impotent, bad for America, day in and day out’ is any better than the journolists who at least get payed a salary for boring scripted writing.

    Impeachment for Obama is not on the horizon. Certainly not by the Dem controlled House and certainly not by the R’s if they are in the majority after the midterms. An Obama Impeachment would be too time consuming an more of an obstruction to the Republican agendas.

    Nixon was threatened with Impeachement because he was caught red handed breaking the Law. His Crimes rose to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors and an embarressing, humiliating stench of prison time lingered in the air if successful prosecutution became reality.

    Clinton on the other hand was “persecuted” as well as prosecuted because he pissed off one man, George Bush. George Bush was bound and determined to remove Clinton because the man had “plans”. Plans for privatization of hundreds of government agencys. Of which he would no doubt discreetly own shares of each and every enterprise. Actually,a takeoff on the scheme comeup with by Soros owning salable Carbon Credits in the ClimateGate scandal.

    I’m sure it is apparent by now, the reason GB1 was unrelenting in the prosecution of the NY, NJ and RI Crime families (Mafia) under the guise of eradicating the criminal element is because their replacements standing in the wings of Congress were patiently waiting for the takeover-

  324. Mrs. Smith, Wow! I knew George Bush I was a man with a grudge, but he certainly out did himself with Bill C. I still believe he had something to do with the demize of Hillary’s loss, but there’s no way to prove it. I just know Rove and Donna Brazille had many talks…no doubt on how to beat the Clinton’s. I am soooo happy all those folk who screwed the Clinton’s are getting theirs now, even if it isn’t the Clinton’s giving it to them…which makes it even better. This little witch in Delaware has gotten up in Rove’s shorts and is driving him nuts…pardon the pun! LOL! I’m loving it.

  325. I think Carter has had some mini-strokes or is getting alzheimers or something. Seriously. Because while always an ineffective president, his tone and personality used to be very different from now. He was a milquetoast before, but not a bad guy. Now he’s just a pompous ass living in some alternate reality in his head.

    I’m not joking, I think there may be something organic here, something with his brain.

  326. Hillaryfortexas,

    That’s something else Squat and Carter seem to share.

    “…something organic here, something with his brain.”

    Some posters have always thought Squat had some undisclosed health issue.

  327. Christine O’Donnell about to hit the 2 million mark, yup these clips are really backfiring…..not.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/20/odonnell-nearing-2-million-mark-since-winning-primary/

    If Christine O’Donnell’s supporters are worried about the eleven-year-old video released by Bill Maher last week in which the Delaware nominee for the Senate talked about “witchcraft,” they’re not demonstrating it where it counts: the bank account. Since winning the primary six days ago, O’Donnell has gone on a fundraising tear, nearing what Scott Brown raised in Massachusetts earlier this year in his special election effort:

    Since upsetting party-backed Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.) in Delaware’s GOP Senate primary Tuesday, Christine O’Donnell has raised nearly $2 million online.

    A source with knowledge of the campaign’s online fundraising operation said that not only is the money is coming in as fast as it did for Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) ahead of his special election, but that O’Donnell’s raising money online at a pace that’s two to three times faster than Sharron Angle in Nevada after her win in the primary.

    A week before his special election with Democrat Martha Coakley in Massachusetts, Brown raised $1.3 million online in a single day with some 16,000 individual donors.

    O’Donnell’s campaign said Friday that it expects to surpass the $2 million mark sometime this weekend and said some 30,000 donors have given since her primary win Tuesday.

  328. moononpluto,

    It reminds me of the Scott Brown incident when the dims tried to make an issue of his semi-nude magazine cover pics.

    But naturally the MSM is far more vicious against O’Donnell, because she’s a woman.

    As funny as I think the whole thing is, a part of me is incensed that the same fothermuckers who spout islamic tolerance and implicitly support the anti-woman sharia agenda are showing the same sexist bias by bashing O’donnell’s wiccan dalliance which is a godess-based belief system.

    No one made a big deal about Squat’s dalliance with Black Liberation theology. No one made a big deal about his dalliance with cocaine. I am doubly disgusted. The women bashing just never ends.

  329. Maher stupid threat to blackmail O’Donnell makes him come across as a petulant bully, a liberal version of Rush Limbaugh.

    Not a flattering comparision.

  330. I’d love Hillary to win the presidency and make the entire cabinet female bar 1 token male. Let them feel what its like for women out there when they get excluded.

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