Ironic Primary Election Night

Odd how things turn out sometimes. Hillary Clinton smashed 18 million cracks into the glass ceiling during the primary elections of 2008. John McCain, in some large part as a nod to Hillary voters, chose Sarah Palin for his running mate. Tonight, Sarah Palin is one of, if not the most valued endorsement sought by Republicans. In a sense Obama’s sexism and misogyny led to Sarah Palin.

Sister Sarah helped create a stunning upset in the Alaska primaries but a home state win some argue ‘ain’t no great shakes’. However, tonight Palin’s endorsement continues to move candidates to the fore in state after state and her robocalls and support are like IEDs for insurgent campaigns. In Delaware, Palin’s endorsement has moved Christine O’Donnell into the lead and triggered a debate over the value of a sure thing win versus a candidate you actually like.

The debate the Republicans and conservatives are having in Delaware is an important one. Do you vote for a candidate who will repeatedly let you down once in office because that candidate can actually win the election? Or, do you decide to vote for the candidate you actually like even if there is a greater possibility you will lose the election? That victory in Delaware might be the seat that triggers a Republican takeover of the U.S. Senate heightens the gamble. Is this stupid, or principled, suicidal or wise? Republicans will let us know what they think in Delaware tonight.

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Hawaii will finish the primary season when it votes this Saturday. Tonight seven states and the District of Columbia will vote. Politico has a run-down on tonight’s primaries:

“The Delaware GOP primary for the Senate seat is not only the most fascinating race of the day but probably the most consequential, as well. The front-runner is Rep. Mike Castle, who also has held office almost continously since the late 1960s. His foe is tea-party-backed Christine O’Donnell, who is riding a surge of momentum in the aftermath of Joe Miller’s upset primary victory over Alaska GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

It hardly needs to be said that Delaware is not Alaska or Utah, two states so Republican that even the little-known tea party upstarts who knocked off incumbent senators are well-positioned to win in November. So if the moderate Castle is knocked off Tuesday, all bets are off on this race on Election Day. If the baggage-laden O’Donnell — a perennial candidate who is despised by the state GOP establishment — emerges as the nominee, suddenly this open seat flips from a likely GOP pickup to a likely Democratic hold.”

Delaware is only one of seven.

“Before the epic grudge match between former GOP Gov. Bob Ehrlich and Gov. Martin O’Malley, the Democrat who ousted him in 2006, can officially begin, Ehrlich must first dispatch Brian Murphy, a little-known business investor offering a vigorous challenge from his right.

There’s been no public polling in the primary, since it’s widely assumed that Ehrlich will get the nod. But Murphy managed to win Sarah Palin’s endorsement and has some tea party support, so he can’t be dismissed entirely. [snip]

Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Stephen Lynch has never had to break a sweat since first winning his House seat nearly a decade ago. But his vote against his party’s health care reform plan has proved costly in a district where the only election that really matters is the Democratic primary. [snip]

With the help of a recent Manchester Union Leader endorsement and tea party support, Lamontagne has closed hard on former state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte, the National Republican Senatorial Committee’s favored candidate. Does he have enough momentum? Many insiders think Ayotte can hold on against a field that also includes several viable self-funders, but Lamontagne’s 1996 primary win proves he is capable of pulling off an upset.

In 2006, Democrats captured both of New Hampshire’s GOP-held House seats, confirming the state’s sharp turn away from the Republican Party. Now, however, the GOP has an opportunity to claw back those districts and stanch the bleeding.

Much depends on whom the party nominates in the open 2nd District, where former Rep. Charles Bass is seeking the seat he lost in 2006, and in the Manchester-based 1st, where a handful of Republicans are seeking the nomination against vulnerable Democratic Rep. Carol Shea-Porter.”

There is much noise about the Charlie Rangel race in New York. We suspect Rangel will win easily. However there is a measure of the anti-incumbency mood of the electorate in a very weird inverted issues way in the 14th District:

“Congressional challengers don’t typically embrace Wall Street values or empathize with aggrieved financiers. But in the Democratic primary in the Manhattan-based 14th District, that’s challenger Reshma Saujani’s strategy against veteran Rep. Carolyn Maloney.

If that approach is going to work anywhere, it would be in this Upper East Side district, where there is simmering resentment over Democratic efforts to crack down on the financial services industries — and Maloney’s support for new restrictions. But while Saujani is remarkably cash-flush for a primary challenger, Maloney has the advantages of incumbency and won’t be easy to oust.”

And also in New York there is the return of the first electoral test of the Tea Party:

“Back in November 2009, during a House special election that marked the emergence of tea party activism as a political force this cycle, Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman forced Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava out of the race, creating the opening for now-Rep. Bill Owens to add a seat to the Democrats’ majority.

Hoffman is back for a second run, seeking the Republican nomination in addition to the Conservative Party line that he already possesses in November. But he faces a tough, well-funded challenger in Matt Doheny, who has his own third-party nomination — the Independence Party nomination. All of it is good news for freshman Democratic Rep. Bill Owens.

The 23rd District isn’t the only place to watch GOP self-immolation: The Long Island-based 1st District is another one to keep an eye on.”

In Washington D.C., Mayor Fenty is in trouble and his troubles kinda sorta reminds us of another person in D.C.:

“It’s one of the oldest stories in politics: a young man in a hurry wins high office, shakes up the status quo, projects arrogance and alienates both allies and powerful interest groups. In District of Columbia Mayor Adrian Fenty’s case, his drama is unfolding in the shadow of the Capitol.

The 39-year-old mayor — who won every precinct in the city in 2006 — now finds himself trailing in the polls and in serious danger of losing his job to City Council Chairman Vincent Gray.”

There are MTV “Real World” cast member running in Wisconsin (Sean Duffy 7th District) and in New York (Powell in Brooklyn’s 10th District). Duffy is a Republican and Powell is a Democrat which goes to prove something about celebrity and politics which we leave up to our readers to decide. Not to be left out of the celebrity list is Ohio where Surya Yalamanchili, formerly of 2007’s “The Apprentice” is a Democratic nominee in Ohio’s 2nd District.

Tonight is not only primary night. There’s also the Ohio debate in the gubernatorial race tonight.

The ultimate irony is that tonight might not matter as much as anyone thinks. After all, “2010 is gone. It’s going to be a total wipeout” in November.

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302 thoughts on “Ironic Primary Election Night

  1. The Republicans in NH and Delaware so far look like they are throwing away 2 senate seats tonight, talk about hollow victories. These guys are idiots.

  2. moononpluto

    I agree with your assessment about Delaware but NH has sent conservatives to the Senate in the past. Ayotte would be a walk while the other person would struggle. I’m in Delaware and O’Donnell is a trainwreck waiting to happen media wise and the electorate proportionately disfavors her. Castle was the only electable Republican!

    When she loses in November, the Tea Party, Sarah, and Jim DeMint will be blamed. This, I fear, will hurt Palin very badly.

  3. warehouse553
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Actually, the tea Party candidates have made races competitive that should have been straight forward Red, aside from Castle. Like Navada should have been an easy pick up. The Tea Party has brought out voters, but the candidates don’t necessarily translate to GOP pickups.

  4. CNN calls it for O’Donnell

    and straight away, MSNBC says it has a video of O’Donnell that will kill her campaign immediately.

    Castle will run independent, i bet.

  5. mj

    At least Lamontagne can win the general election although it will be more difficult. O’Donnell is completely unelectable. The Republicans have proven how dangerous they are by throwing a seat away for ideological reasons. Castle is a northeastern Republican so of course he has to be more liberal.

  6. warehouse553
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    They also threw away an easy pick up in NV. But I agree. Throwing away a seat is insane.

  7. moononpluto
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    CNN calls it for O’Donnell

    and straight away, MSNBC says it has a video of O’Donnell that will kill her campaign immediately.
    &&&&&&&&&

    I guess MSNBC would be deliberately holding off on releasing the video and trying to alter the election in their capacity as an “unbiased news source”.

  8. In Nevada though there was no top tier challenger. I think Lowden or Tarkanian would be leading Reid by 10 points. I can’t vote for O’Donnell but after what the Democrats did to Hillary, I can’t vote for Coons either so I guess I stay home in November. I would have loved to have voted for Castle! I’m still in shock!

  9. wow, the tea party, who I normally support are throwing away a seat in DE, if this lady wins.

    At least Sharon Angle has a chance in NV, the DE lady has no chance, I have family in DE, they are dems, they would have voted for Castle, they were mentioning that they will not vote for the repub lady if she wins. I didn’t know this but apparently she ran against Joe Biden and revealed herself to be completely out of depth.

    Should be interesting.

  10. warehouse553
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Right, another competitor would have a significant lead over Reid. Can Castle run as an indie?

  11. and straight away, MSNBC says it has a video of O’Donnell that will kill her campaign immediately
    ————————-
    Glad to see they are so neutral and objective. It is what I keep saying. They want to control the entire game, set the national agenda and decide who wins public office. If you accept their approach to journalism then the interests of the American People are immaterial and their right to decide democratic outcomes superfluous–a quaint historical anomaly.

  12. Sorry, I haven’t been following these elections closely.

    What is the problem with O’Donnell? Why can’t Engles win in Nevada?

    Can’t they pull it out?

  13. As for us and Hillary, if the Republicans retake the Congress after 2012, will she be able to work with the Jim Demint wing of the party if she becomes President. The Party looks like it may be moving to the far right which is not good. I could see her and McConnell having a cordial relationship

    BTW, I think Olympia Snowe is next.

  14. I hope Castle runs as an independent. Looks like the Tea party did to him what the CT far lefties did to Lieberman in 2006.

    The DE primary was only for 30K people in a state of over one million. Did this woman run against Biden just a few years ago and lose over 40 points?

  15. basil9
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    O’Donnell is a nut and a flake. She won’t win. Angel may win, but Reid was definately going down if the Repubs had put up a more credible candidate. The race is close because of Angel. I think Reid will hold on there, and that should have been an easy pick up for the GOP.

  16. “Victories by O’Donnell in Delaware and Lamontagne in New Hampshire would be considered major triumphs for the Tea Party movement over the national Republican Party, raising questions about GOP unity heading into November.”

    Sorry again, but isn’t it possible this really is a tipping point and could signal the obliteration of the dims? Isn’t there anything positive about this trend? Couldn’t the pundits all be wrong?

  17. Right, another competitor would have a significant lead over Reid. Can Castle run as an indie?
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    I supported Louden, but I doubt it would be much different if she has won. The money coming in for Reid is off the ricker scale/ Monied interests have a man in office, their man, who will steal from young and unborne children. For the good of their pocket book and their second yacht they have got to save him, come hell or high water. And they know there are enough idiots out there who cannot see the forest for the trees to vote for him. But in the end, I still think she will win.

  18. wow, I am going through some of O’Donnell’s past interviews on youtube, this woman is a nut and a flake, this is severely going to hurt Palin when O’Donnell loses.

    Angle at least had more time to soften her imagine. I didn’t realise O’Donnell was the Senate repub nominee the last time around and was beaten with wide margins.

  19. kaine’s announcement will make lots of democrats happy, that’s good because I haven’t been happy since the fraud stole the election.

    Maybe they are actually going to start living by their own rules. snark!

  20. Whoooohooo for Sarah for picking tea party people that are not part of the ‘established’ Rethug party.

    Throw all the bums out!!

  21. Well, this is what i found, so far;

    she found out O’Donnell doesn’t have a college degree, had foreclosed on her home and was using the campaign debit card for personal expenses.

    “It just amounted to too much,” she said. “The reason she’s running is so she can pay her rent, pay her electricity bill. If it was popular to be really liberal now, maybe she’d do that,” Murray said.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42141.html#ixzz0zYee7qCn

  22. basil9
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Ofcourse. If the Dems retain the Senate, Reid retains his leadership position, even if the Repubs take the House, and Pelosi loses her position.

  23. she sued for “emotional distress” for something, I can’t remember what, I can’t find the link, something about not getting a promotion or something.

    Hannity is sounding like an idiot.

  24. basil, here is some more:

    Meet Christine O’Donnell, the Tea Partier Who Could Lose the Senate for the GOP
    9/13/10 at 09:24 AM Comment 22Comment 22Comments
    Photo: Courtesy of Christine O’Donnell
    With only seven weeks until the midterm elections, the Republican Party is now widely believed to have a very good shot at taking control of the House of Representatives, and at least the possibility of wresting power away from the Democrats in the Senate. Nate Silver gives them a 25 percent chance of winning the upper chamber, while Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics says the Senate is “on the bubble.” But success in flipping Delaware’s Democratically controlled (and formerly Joe Biden–occupied) seat would be essential to winning a majority in the Senate, and it’s looking increasingly likely that instead of nominating longtime moderate congressman Mike Castle tomorrow — who leads Democratic nominee Chris Coons, according to polls — Republican voters may pick tea-party insurgent Christine O’Donnell, who is trailing Coons, perhaps because she is kind of nuts, and lies all the time.

    So what do you need to know about O’Donnell, who became the tea party’s new cause after its success with Joe Miller in Alaska?

    • She believes that masturbating or looking at pornography is tantamount to adultery.

    • She recently said of Castle’s campaign:

    They’re following me. They follow me home at night. I make sure that I come back to the townhouse and then we have our team come out and check all the bushes and check all the cars to make sure that—they follow me.

    That’s what’s disgusting, as you can see from the YouTube videos. They knock on the door at all hours of the night. They’re hiding in the bushes when I’m at candidate forums.

    • She claimed that when she ran against Joe Biden in 2008, she won two of Delaware’s three counties. In reality, she hadn’t won any. When this discrepancy was pointed out by a radio host, O’Donnell claimed that she had actually tied Biden in one of them. Still not true.

    • Though she had previously claimed to have graduated from Fairleigh Dickinson University, O’Donnell only received her degree 10 days ago.

    • In 2005 she sued a conservative nonprofit organization for $6.9 million for gender discrimination and wrongful termination. She dropped the lawsuit in 2008.

    • On financial-disclosure forms, she claimed to only have earned $5,800 last year.

    We can’t imagine what the Republican Party has against this woman.

    nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/meet_christie_odonnell_the_tea.html?f=most-commented-intel-7d5

  25. People should give O’Donnell a break. I, for one, don’t believe much of what I have read about her, and attribute these negatives to sour grapes by the establishment Republicans. She may lose the election, but at least Mr. Castle was sent a message. As for the comment that you must be a liberal Republican to win in the Northeast, that’s cr@p. Look at Governor Christie in New Jersey. Conservatives win in the Northeast when people start to get fed up with high taxes during a weak economy.

  26. Hehehe, good to hear Hannity totally disagree with Rove over if Christine O’Donnell
    can win the election against a Dem. Rove thinks Christine has ‘serious character flaws’. Pretty close to a fight in my eyes, although Hannity stuck to his guns, he was overly polite to Rove. Does Rove have a problem with women, possibly they aren’t Good Ol’ Boy establishment Rethugs enough for him.

    Admin- I hope you were watching this.

  27. looks like she employed some of those alinksky tactics against Castle. Her supporters spread some rumor about Castle having a gay relationship and then when she came on to refute that rumor, she kept repeating it. My DE family members are pretty annoyned.

    They don’t like Coons(spelling?), but cannot stand a “nutcase” (their words) O’Donnell

  28. “Victories by O’Donnell in Delaware and Lamontagne in New Hampshire would be considered major triumphs for the Tea Party movement over the national Republican Party, raising questions about GOP unity heading into November.”
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    There is more than one way to interpret these results. For example, they could be interpreted as a sign that the electorate at large has come to the realization that Obama must be defeated and they do not trust the stalwarts of either party to do it. But notice how the media gives it the worst possible spin. Rather than calling it a defeat for Obama they call it a defeat for the national republicans. As far as I am concerned, the truth is this. The tea party movement has given life to an otherwise listless party which lost touch with the American People during the Bush years. To suggest otherwise, and to pound away at it is just another attempt by our biased big media to control the game.

  29. :sigh:

    What was that old stand-by about the repubs snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

    Well. Maybe not. I’m still hoping for a dim route in November. Not cause I’m such a repub supporter but coz i want all those dim-bums thrown out on their butts.

    To send a message, you know.

  30. LOL, good example, she very well might be DE’s Alvin (?) Greene. She is completely unvetted. My DE family are dems, but pretty centerist dems, they told me DE already knows about O’Donnell from when she ran last time, and its not a electable picture.

    I’m thinking Beau Biden might be wishing he ran after all.

  31. tim
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    That is exactly what I was thinking. Castle would have been an easy win. Biden must be kicking himself tonight.

  32. Lamontagne is ahead in New Hampshire 45.5% to Ayotte 35.2%. With 17.9% of precincts reporting.

    Lynch is ahead in the Dem primary for his House seat 86.8%

  33. I honestly have not been following Christine O’Donnell, but to tell you the truth, if she was a crackpot, I don’t think Sarah would support her. Now is Sarah not vetting her choices enough?

  34. ‘The tea party movement has given life to an otherwise listless party which lost touch with the American People during the Bush years. To suggest otherwise, and to pound away at it is just another attempt by our biased big media to control the game.’

    Yes!!!!!! That’s how I’m gonna think of it.

  35. admin
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Isn’t that Lazio, the jerk who ran against Hillary for her Senate seat, or do I have that wrong?

  36. wbboei
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
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    Exactly. I don’t believe anything coming from the mainstream media. There are Republicans who are very comfortable with their media associations, and I don’t trust them either. Bye, bye Mr. Castle, and shame on the Republican party for attacking one of their own in the manner that they did.

  37. admin (or anyone else) — does anyone know the answer to this?

    the DE senate seat, since Biden’s term is up in 2012, does that mean, this seat is only for a 2 year stint? and not an entire 6 years?

  38. mj — you are correct, Lazio was the man who walked over to Hillary at her podium to force her to sign some piece of paper, and Hillary shoke his hand instead.

    If the man was a bit less in your face, might help his chances.

  39. mj,

    Yeah, Lazio ran against HRC and now he’s running against Palladino, a Buffalo businessman with a colorful vocabulary and an appetite for off -color humor.

    Doesn’t matter who wins. Cuomo takes the governorship.

  40. Same Lazio Mj. He was supposed to win easily. Paladino is a millionaire so this actually helps Republicans, probably. But in NY the Republicans put up very weak candidates. We hope Lazio loses.

  41. Thanks everyone for the info on Lazio. Yeah, looks like just a campaign to see who can lose to Cuomo. Surprised they couldn’t come up with anyone better.

  42. “Now is Sarah not vetting her choices enough?”

    I trusted her choices before, but now after this Christine O’Donnell choice, I don’t think the vetting is done as in depth as much as I thought it was.

  43. shadowfax, Rove has been married multiple times…just got rid of the last one a few months ago. Gee, I can’t imagine being married to the pillsbury dough boy with bad sinus’s. YUK!

  44. Greta Van Susteren has a good program tonight discussing today’s earlier court hearing in the 20 state lawsuit health care case. The judge apparently noted that the bill was sold on the basis of the Commerce Clause but now the government is saying “it’s a tax”.

  45. Tim, the Delaware seat is a special election and in addition the winner will probably take the Senate seat almost immediately in November. Biden’s term is up in 4 years so this election is for a 4 year term. Whoever wins in November gets 4 years plus gets to join this year’s lame duck congress.

  46. O’Donnell is selfish because she ran in the Republican party as the more conservative candidate and won? What kind of logic is that? It obvious that a majority of voting Republicans favored her, so what does that tell you? She deserved to win. Now, the media will try to kneecap her, but I hope the her challenger has his own dirty laundry that needs to come to light. If I lived in Delaware, I would vote for Christine O’Donnell and not give it a second thought. Shake ups only happen when the more unconventional candidates win.

  47. It wouldn’t have been hard for the Republican party to have gotten the dirt on O’Donnell and run it prior to the vote. This doesn’t make much sense.Something is fishy here.

  48. wbboei
    September 14th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    ==================================

    Bingo again!

    The sore losers who decide to run as independents need to lose handidly in their elections. They are not so indispensable that the world will stop if they do not hold office for the “good of the people”. It’s all about what’s good for themselves, and that includes Joe Lieberman, Charlie Crist, and Lisa Murkowski, if she decides to run as an independent. They’re all sore losers.

  49. Well seriously, I think Kaine is stepping down so he can run for the WH and dooflis Dean the scream is coming back…it appears the dims miss their Dean the screamer at the DNC. I mean Dean the cheater at the DNC!

  50. The Republicans are making a big gamble tonight. If the Tea Party candidates win they will have removed their hated “RINOs” and put strong conservatives in the Senate. If they lose, the lose the chance to take the Senate. This is going to be a wait and see how big the wave is. Sharon Angle was supposed to be a sure loser against Reid but she is holding on and Reid is still well below 50%.

    Of course, Delaware is a lot less conservative than Alaska and Nevada so conservative nominees are a longer shot. But if Republicans win in places like Delaware with O’Donnell – they win very big. If they lose – they still will likely win in the House. It might be that their greater concern is the result in New Hampshire. Ayotte would have been a big winner there.

  51. This pretty much means no repub senate majority. I just spoke with my DE relatives, this lady will not win. They would have voted for Castle over Coons, but will vote for Coons over Castle, or might just stay home. She just ran in 2008 and lost pretty handily against Joe Biden. Apparently she has run 2 or 3 times before for this same candidacy.

    I find myself questioning Palin’s judgement.

  52. I agree, gonzotx. Something is fishy in Delaware. This is an attempt by the more moderate Republicans to negate the more independent (and conservative) branch of their party. They are losing control, and they don’t like it.

  53. Nomobama,

    I live in Delaware and she is not electable. Demint I expect to be ideological but Sarah put ideology over pragmatism and has hurt herself tremendously. I thought she was a moderate. If they wanted challenge Castle, they should have recruited a top tier moderate Republican who could win a general election. There are not enough conservative Republicans in this state for O’Donnell to come close to winning. Delawareans like our Republicans moderate. She is not Scott Brown. He was elected before he ran for national office. She is running and has been running for years to pay her bills. What I did not know is that she tried to smear Castle as being gay. There’s nothing wrong with being gay. She’s toast in November.

  54. confloyd
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Confloyd, I think it will be some sort of party org thing. That is what the DNC does.

  55. In Florida it looks like the Republican gamble is paying off nicely:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/fox-news-polls-track-midterm-election-races-critical-states/

    Florida GOP Senate nominee Marco Rubio has jumped to a 16-point lead over independent Charlie Crist, according to the latest Fox News poll, as Republicans make gains across the country on dissatisfaction with President Obama’s agenda.

    In the first round of Fox News battleground surveys for the 2010 election, Republican candidates for Senate and governor in Florida, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Ohio and California all kick off the election season in contention or ahead.

    In each of the states, large numbers of voters believe that the Obama agenda is hurting their local economy.[snip]

    The independent Senate bid of Florida Gov. Charlie Crist is in serious trouble, according to a new Fox News poll.

    Crist drew 27 percent of likely voters in the poll of the three-way race. Republican Marco Rubio registered 43 percent support. Democrat Kendrick Meek came in third with 21 percent.

    Crist’s troubles likely reflect a consolidation of Democratic support behind Meek, a four-term congressman, since his August primary victory and strong support from Obama, former President Bill Clinton and the national Democratic Party. Crist’s Senate run may also be taking a toll on his job approval ratings as governor. Just 41 percent approve of the job he’s doing, and 37 percent do not think he’s honest and trustworthy.

    Crist has tried to woo Democrats with ads touting liberal positions and playing up his support for Obama. But that may have cost him in the center, where his independent bid began.

    Rubio’s biggest advantage may be the mood of the Florida electorate this year. Only 37 percent approve of the job Obama is doing; 44 percent say they are angry about the way the federal government is working, 54 percent favor repealing Obama’s national health care program and 57 percent say Obama doesn’t deserve to be reelected.

    The bitter primary fight for governor on the Republican side, meanwhile, seems to have taken a toll. Nominee Rick Scott trails Democrat Alex Sink — 41 to 49 percent.

  56. Tim is right. I will not vote for O’Donnell under any circumstances. Castle would have received my enthusiasm and my vote.

  57. NSRC not supporting O’Donnell. Good! I hope Mike Castle runs as an indie. I supported Joe Miller who was immediately supported by the NSRC after he beat Lisa Mursckocki, but this O’Donnell woman, from the interviews I have seen, is a nut.

    This is more important than a candidate, this is about stopping Obama’s nonsense.

  58. The latest poll from Nevada:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/fox-news-polls-track-midterm-election-races-critical-states/

    In what’s shaping up to be the toughest Senate battle of the year, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is tied with Tea Party-backed Republican challenger Sharron Angle, according to the latest Fox News poll.

    Angle drew 45 percent support, while Reid took in 44 percent. Five percent opted for “none of these,” Nevada’s unique ballot option that allows one to vote against all the candidates on offer. And Reid’s path to victory depends on growing the number of “none of these” voters.

    Reid’s low job approval in the survey – 40 percent said he was doing a good job, while 55 percent disagree – helps explain the Democratic strategy of encouraging “none of the above” votes.

    Reid is unpopular, but he does have ardent supporters. While only 63 percent of those backing Angle said they “strongly” supported the former state senator, Reid got strong support from 77 percent of his backers. If enough of Angle’s lukewarm supporters ditch her in favor of a protest vote, Reid can win the election and not move much beyond the 44 percent he garnered in the poll.

    A looming problem for Reid is the failing gubernatorial campaign of his son, Rory. The younger Reid trailed Republican nominee Brian Sandoval by 18 points — 56 to 38 percent. If Democrats expect a landslide loss for governor, there will be one less reason to go vote for Rory’s still-unpopular father.

    But the biggest problem for Nevada Democrats this year is the dismal condition of the state’s economy. Nevada has the nation’s worst unemployment rate and remains crippled by foreclosures. Sixty-three percent said the state’s economy was in poor condition and 46 percent believed Obama’s policies had hurt the state’s economy. Thirty percent didn’t think Obama’s policies had done much at all.

    Obama’s job approval rating was 42 percent in the state, while 55 percent favored repealing the president’s national health care program.

  59. Obama is poison in Pennsylvania:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/fox-news-polls-track-midterm-election-races-critical-states/

    Opposition to the policies of the Obama administration is helping Republican Pat Toomey gain an edge in Pennsylvania’s Senate race, according to a new Fox News poll.

    Toomey drew 47 percent support among likely voters, compared to 41 percent for Democrat Joe Sestak in the race to replace Sen. Arlen Specter. Eleven percent were undecided.

    Half of respondents said they wanted their vote to represent opposition to the policies of the Obama administration, and 56 percent favored repealing the president’s national health care program. Only 40 percent approved of the job Obama is doing as president. The president carried Pennsylvania in a 10-point landslide in 2008.

    Thirty-one percent said they were dissatisfied with the way the federal government works. Thirty-five percent said they were angry about it.

    Jobs and the economy are far and away the top concerns for Pennsylvania voters — 41 percent said these were most important. Concerns about the deficit and federal spending ranked second with 29 percent.

    That could mean trouble for Sestak, who welcomes Obama for a campaign event in Philadelphia next week. While 21 percent of respondents said Obama’s policies have helped the state’s economy, 41 percent say they have hurt and 32 percent think they haven’t made much of a difference. A 42-percent plurality in the industrial state opposes a plan to cap carbon emissions like the one proposed by Obama.

    Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett is faring even better than Toomey. Corbett led Democratic nominee Dan Onoroto 50 percent to 40 percent.

  60. warehouse — my DE relatives live in New Castle County, mostly dems, centerist dems, many of my realtives there cannot stand Coons? but will absolutely vote for Castle should he run as an independent.

  61. Ohio, which has a governor’s debate tonight:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/fox-news-polls-track-midterm-election-races-critical-states/

    Republicans hold the advantage so far in the battleground state of Ohio, a new Fox News poll finds.

    Republican Senate candidate Rob Portman held a 7-point lead over Democrat Lee Fisher among likely voters — 48 to 41 percent. Democratic incumbent Gov. Ted Strickland trails GOP challenger John Kasich by 5 points — 48 to 43 percent.

    In bad news for Fisher and Strickland, 73 percent of respondents said their votes would be more determined by national issues, while only 23 percent say their decision will be based on the candidates themselves.

    Obama’s approval rating in the poll was an anemic 39 percent. Forty-four percent believe the president’s policies have hurt the Buckeye State’s economy. Fifty-four percent favor repealing the president’s national health care program.

  62. I can’t stand Crist, and what the Dems have done to Meeks is shaming. BC gave Meeks strong support, NOT Obama. Obama gave Meeks tepid support, and his minions like Kos have been pushing Dems to vote Crist since before the primary.

  63. Finally, California:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/fox-news-polls-track-midterm-election-races-critical-states/

    Sen. Barbara Boxer is in a statistical dead heat with Republican challenger Carly Fiorina, while Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman holds a 6-point lead over Democrat Jerry Brown, a new Fox News poll finds.

    California — a Democratic stronghold for more than a decade — seems to be tuning out its leaders, registering tepid support for Obama and the state’s two Democratic senators.

    Obama won California in a 24-point landslide in 2008, but now registers 48 percent job approval. Only 46 percent believed he deserves reelection in the survey of likely voters. Sen. Diane Feinstein had a 44 percent job approval rating. Boxer garnered only 42 percent support for her performance in the Senate.

    It shows in the horse race polls. Fiorina trailed Boxer by only 2 points – 44 percent to 46 percent – and Whitman’s lead looks sturdy for now (49 percent to Brown’s 43 percent).

    California’s stagnating economy seems to be the cause. Jobs and the economy were the top issue for 46 percent of voters (deficits and government spending came in second with 26 percent).

    Thirty five percent of respondents believed that Obama’s policies had hurt the state’s economy. Only a quarter believed they had helped. Most surprising, respondents in the famously liberal state were evenly divided on the question of repealing Obama’s national health care program.

    Democrats can be comforted by the knowledge that it could be worse – 53 percent of respondents believed that outgoing Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s policies had hurt the state’s economy.

  64. Warehouse553, Fox News is reporting that the Republican Senate Committee will not support O’Donnell with money or logistics. The Republicans are saying the Tea Party can help her. This is an establishment versus upstarts battle now.

  65. warehouse553
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
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    I acknowledge that she may lose in November, but I still disagree with some of what you have written. I am formerly from New Jersey, up until about 4 years ago. Many would say the Delaware and New Jersey have similar politics. If Chris Christie, who is more conservative than moderate, can win in New Jersey, conservatives can run and win in other parts of the northeast as long as people disregard all of the media hoopla that surrounds the Democratic candidates. If Christine O’Donnell has positive positions, then she deserves the chance. For her own party to try to derail her in the manner that they did, she has her work cut out for her. The Republican party in Delaware is wrong for attacking her. They have virtually made it impossible for her from the get go. If anyone needs to be out of office, it should be the Republican leadership in that state.

    Yes, there is nothing wrong with being gay, but to be married and messing around on the side as is speculated, shows some moral failings. If he is gay, and messing around on his wife, then he should divorce her, and then lead the lifestyle that he desires. It’s wrong to push his wife to the side, imo, while he has his cake, and eats it, too. I guess philandery, for many people, does not show character issues anymore. Too bad. To me, it shows a lack of honesty, trust, and morality.

  66. The problem with O’Donnell is she cannot win the general election in Deleware…….we needed Castle as he was a shoe in. The seat will now remaain democrat and Obama can continue to destroy our country.

  67. Politico has this interesting report:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42068.html

    Tea partiers have downplayed the lack of diversity in their ranks, but on Monday one of the movement’s leading organizers announced a new initiative to reach out to racial, ethnic and religious minorities — and the first target this High Holiday season are Jews.

    “We do need to reach out,” said Matt Kibbe, president of the small-government group FreedomWorks, which this week is launching a minority outreach effort called DiverseTea with a series of print ads in Jewish community newspapers.

    The ads, which will be accompanied by a yet-to-launch website, will showcase diversity in the tea party ranks by calling attention to movement leaders who are African-American, Hispanic and Jewish.

    “The goal is to build a platform for a diverse group of tea party leaders from across the country — African-Americans, Jews, Hispanics, others that have come to this movement — because there is this nagging perception that we are not diverse, and I disagree with that,” said Kibbe during a Monday breakfast with reporters sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor.

    Asked afterward why FreedomWorks was launching the effort by targeting Jews rather than African-Americans, whose absence from tea party events has been repeatedly cited by liberals as proof that the movement is racist, Kibbe said, “I think that there is a more open debate to be had (in the Jewish community), but there is no genius behind that. I had to start somewhere.”

    He added that FreedomWorks would place DiverseTea ads in black community papers “next.” But he said that the NAACP resolution that infuriated tea party activists by expressing concern about racist and homophobic elements within the tea party movement also contained a less-noticed reference alleging anti-Semitism.

  68. nomobama
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    There is no evidence he is gay or was messing around. It’s called a whisper campaign. Like the one Bush ran against McCain when Karl Rove whispered his non-white child was his love child.

  69. Noobama — I say this as someone who has family in DE who wishes to vote for a Chris Christie in their own state. This woman is a nutjob, she is not a chris christie, she has run 2/3 times before for this same seat, this is all the woman does, she has no job. Christie was a heavyweight (no pun intended) because he was the state’s atty general. Scott Brown won because he is a small business owner who was in the MA state legislature for a couple of decades.

    This woman will not win, this is not about her ideas, she is a perpetual candidate and a very bad one.

    Frankly, if Castle decides to run as an independent I will donate to him, not because I am a fan of him, but he will causus with the repubs allowing them to have the majority and chairmanships of committeess to stop Obama.

    The goal is not about a candidate, its about stopping the nonsense Obama is foisting on this country.

  70. We really don’t know what to say about this:

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/75198

    The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.

    The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011.

  71. O’Donnell ’08 Campaign Manager: O’Donnell “Not Concerned about Conservative Causes;” “Just Wanted to Make a Buck”
    Too late?

    BY JOHN MCCORMACK
    September 14, 2010 12:49 PM
    SHARETHIS

    Politico’s David Catanese reports:

    Christine O’Donnell’s former campaign manager has recorded an Election Day robocall for the Delaware Republican Party meant to shred the tea party-backed candidate’s conservative credentials as voters head to the polls.

    The last-minute move appears to be the grand finale of what’s been a fusillade of orchestrated attacks on O’Donnell originating from GOP headquarters on behalf of her primary opponent, nine-term moderate Rep. Mike Castle.

    The call features the voice of Kristin Murray, who ran O’Donnell’s 2008 Senate campaign against then-Sen. Joe Biden, and who charges that her old boss “is no conservative.”

    “I got into politics because I believe in conservative values and wanted to make a difference. But I was shocked to learn that O’Donnell is no conservative,” says Murray, according to a script obtained by POLITICO.

    “This is her third Senate race in five years. As O’Donnell’s manager, I found out she was living on campaign donations – using them for rent and personal expenses, while leaving her workers unpaid and piling up thousands in debt,” she says.

    Perhaps the most biting line in the call delivered by Murray: “She wasn’t concerned about conservative causes. O’Donnell just wanted to make a buck.”

    A pretty effective line of attack from someone who worked closely with O’Donnell, but probably would have been more effective had it been dropped a little earlier. Here’s the audio:

  72. nomobama

    I think Chris Christie was different. First, I think running for State Office, Governor or State Senator, insulates a candidate from their social positions. Secondly, people believed that Christie had integrity because of his past. This race is similar to Chaffee in Rhode Island. If Chaffee had lost the Primary, the Republicans would have ceded the State because Laffey was unelectable. If she were running for State Senator maybe she could win but US Senator will be impossible. I like Palin and I do not want her to be blamed if the Democrats retain control of Senate in 2010. Romney will use this against her when O’Donnell loses. I had hoped after Hillary became President, she would too but it just got alot more difficult. Chairmanships are still important even with a 51 seat majority. The Republicans should support her but wasting money in this kind of year for them could cost them other gettable races.

    Olympia Snowe should be terrified after what happened to Castle!

  73. admin
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    **********************

    I am a nurse Admin…bet I could teach them a whole lot cheaper!

  74. tim,

    Why are you so sure that Mike Castle will be not in obama’s corner? I don’t trust him because I feel on the issues that are the biggest concerns, Castle will side with obama, so it doesn’t matter if he loses or wins. On the other hand, O’Donnell is a definite no on obama’s agenda. Honestly, I am sick of the Republicans who are wishy washy on important issues. In the case of the Republican party, it really does seem that the moderate Republicans are the ones who are hurting that party, which is just the opposite of what most pundits try to get you to believe. RINOs, almost always, should be Democrats because that is where their hearts are. I think the same thing about most DINOs. If they are Republicans in dsguise, then run as a Republican.

    Maybe there should be a third party in this country that is for moderates. I know that my votes would either be for moderates or conservatives, while it would be very difficult for most leftist candidates to get my vote.

  75. gonzotx
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
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    I read the same thing, too, but it is coming from another source that I do not trust. Politico is biased as far as I can tell.

  76. warehouse553
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
    ====================================

    We really are not that different in the way that we look at things. The only other thing that I will write about this is that people change. I voted 100% Democrat from 1980 through 2006. I changed, and it will be much more difficult for me to vote Democrat again. I am still in “punish Democrats everywhere” mode because punishment, for the most part, has not happened in the party. They NEED IT, and they NEED IT quickly. How are we expected to see change if we are unwilling to vote against them? Even if the anti-Democrat candidate ends up doing a poor job, then make another change four years later. I know a lot can happen in 4 years time, but sometimes you have to stick your neck out. Look at all of the idiots who stuck their necks out for obama. Surely that is not a position that I would want to be in, but I am willing to do what is necessary to destroy the NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY because they are a threat to this country. If that hasn’t become apparent by now, then what will get people to move against them? If there was ever a time that a politcal party should be held accountable for their actions, this IS THE TIME.

  77. nomobama
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    there are 3 choices

    1) O’Donnell vs Coons; Coons wins — 100% with Obama — dems have majority and chairmanships
    2) Castle vs Coons; Castle wins — 50% against Obama — repubs have majority and chairmanships

    now if castle decides to run as an independent, he will win, apparently, from what my DE relatives have told me, Coons is not very well liked, dems want to vote for Castle.

    so Castle vs O’Donnell vs Coons — Castle wins, 50% against Obama, and repubs will have majority and chairmanships.

    O’Donnell is still remembered from the 2008 senate race, and its not a complimentary way. She will not win.

  78. AP has called it for Paladino. Lazio got super trounced. 66.8 to 33.2 with 47.3% in.

    The NH numbers are still trickling in. 23.9% of precincts reporting.

    Ayotte 37.1%, Lamontagne 41.8%

  79. mj, O’Donnell may or may not believe Mike Castle is gay. She’s not the first person to believe that to be so, if she even believes that to be the case. The leftists in Delaware have hit Mike Castle with that accusation a few years ago. Imagine that, leftists attacking someone because they’re gay. The innuendo about him would have surfaced in his campaign against the Democrat, because that tactic had been used before (albeit with not much success). So, it the left that started that line of attack first. Again, imagine that.

  80. nomobama
    September 14th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    That has nothing to do with anything. The “leftists” have nothing to do with the Repub primary.

  81. But tim, it’s the BIG things that Mike Castle supports that bother me. He is in line with obama, so if that is going to be the case, let the Demonrat candidate Coons support the president. For me right now, it’s the big votes like Cap and Trade that are a concern, and Castle supports that. He is with the Demonrats on the big issues. He might as well be one of them. Let him be the example to other Republicans that their loyalty to the Republican consensus is important when these horrendous bills come to a vote. O’Donnell, on the other hand, is not with obama. Maybe enough people will overlook what some of you are referring to as her “nut case” persona, and vote against the Demonrat. It’s my hope, anyway. The Demonrat agenda needs to be destroyed. It is not going to happen when people choose to elect politicians that agree with the Demonrats. This is enough of a concern to get me to vote for anyone, but a Demonrat right now. I will cast my for for Scott in the Florida governor’s election even though I can’t say that I dislike Sink. She just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time as far as I am concerned.

    I worry that too many people who know that things are wrong in this country, and things are wrong with the Demonrat party, will not do the things necessary to crush the Demonrats.

  82. mj, Yes, the left has nothing to do with the primary, but they have everything to do with the general election as they try to destroy the Republican candidate. It was a leftist who publicized the innuendo about Mike Castle being gay way back in 2006.

  83. noobama — cap n tax will not pass.

    every dem who is up in 2012 knows if they vote for it, they will be history, Ben nelson, jim webb, liberman.

    but you need to remember there are now judicial nominees who will need to be solid conservative nominees to beat back the nonsense of Deathcare. And for this to happen repubs need the majority to have majority in the judicial committees.

  84. Sink is not exactly running based on her support of the law but she also said she is not too concerned about the law suit.
    “What we need to focus on is taking advantage of all the benefits that are in that health care reform bill that help Floridians,” Sink said.
    She said the law is not all good for Florida but her goal would be to implement it in the best way possible. She lays concern over the lawsuit at the feet of the Attorney General.
    But her attorney general could also be a republican, Pam Bondi, who has also made her opposition to the reform law a major part of her campaign. Again, Sink said she is just not concerned about that.
    “I’m putting all that partisan bickering, partisan party politics aside. When I am elected governor, I am going to be governor of all the people,” Sink said.

    The above is what Alex Sink said about obamacare. I’ll be damned if I want a governor that supports that. She is downplaying this because if she wholeheartedly supported it, she would lose big time in Florida. She is fine with obamacare, but she skirts that with her “I’ll try to make it work for all Floridians” bullshit.

    I knew when obamacare passed, that the country was just a step closer to something that most people don’t want. It was a foot in the door, and little by little, if things are not set in place with a tremendous Republican victory in 2012, we will be headed in the direction that the current demonrat party leadership wishes for us. obamacare is the law of the land, even after many of the Demonrats have been voted out of office because of their support for it. My only hope for this to be repealed is for a big Republican victory in 2012, with tea party people making inroads within the Republican party.

  85. But how does a liberal Republican help with what you are writing about, Tim? They don’t because they stand with the Demonrats on the big issues regardless.

  86. the direction of legislation is done by the majority party. the chairmanships of all committees are determined by the majority party.

    the liberal repub is useful to get the majority even if he only 50% voting conservative.
    but s/he helps with getting a conservative majority.

  87. HotAir has this right:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/14/fox-news-nrsc-wont-spend-a-dime-on-odonnell/

    Fox News: NRSC won’t spend a dime on O’Donnell

    Via Mediaite, not a surprise given their tepid congratulatory message tonight but a big mistake nonetheless if true. I understand the logic here — they want to do triage by not wasting money on a race they think is unwinnable — but they’re going to alienate a ton of “true conservatives” by writing off their new champion. And of course they’ll further deepen the rift between the grassroots and the, ahem, “ruling class,” of which the Beltway GOP is the very definition. They’re trying to limit the damage from the race but they’re only going to end up expanding it, and to pull the plug on her when she’s literally in the middle of her victory speech will stick in the craw of righties nationwide who are excited by her win. Just spend what you have to spend on her to give her a fair chance of winning, which is unlikely but possible. If you shortchange her, you only alienate people you need in November.

    To see how deep the rift is, read this dispiriting Hotline piece about Republican leadership aides bitter about DeMint’s role in pushing an easy pick-up into the “likely Democratic” column. A bad, bad situation.

    Update: People are asking for links to her donation page. Looks like there are two sites and both are down at the moment, but they should be here and here.

  88. admin — I think the NCRC made the correct decision, where they went wrong is announcing it so immediately after the results were in.

  89. I think some of these results tonight are people in revolt over the parties picking the candidates. Anyone challenging incumbents (or an incumbent like Castle trying to trade up) are not tolerated. Both parties have turned into the incumbent protection racket and/or pre-selecting who will best serve that parties big money interests. The citizens are not in the equation. The way the press is playing this drama makes it sound like a entrenched old hacks vs. lying, cheating, crazy people. I have a feeling that the press is going to declare everyone insane because they did not vote like the elites wanted.

  90. Ohio governor candidates debate tonight:

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/election/ohio-governor-candidates-square-off-in-first-debate-918227.html

    If viewers were looking for a gaffe or knockout punch when Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland and Republican challenger John Kasich squared off in their first debate Tuesday, they got neither.

    “I thought the debate was pretty even,” John Green, director of the Bliss Institute of Applied Politics at the University of Akron, said in an e-mail.

    Strickland, trailing in the polls, used the debate to try to close the gap, casting Kasich as tainted by his experience on Wall Street as a Lehman Brothers managing director.

    “This is an election of Wall Street values versus Ohio values,” said the governor, maintaining a calm but generally forceful presence.

    Kasich, making his first run for statewide elected office, was the more animated of the two, stressing that he would bring a new approach to the governor’s office that would get Ohio out of a rut. He cited his role as chairman of the U.S. House Budget Committee in helping craft a balanced budget that helped usher in prosperity in the late 1990s.

    “We were creating jobs and improving the lives of every family in America. That’s exactly what we’ll do here in Ohio,” said Kasich.

    Both candidates avoided direct answers to pointed questions from the four panelists, including Laura A. Bischoff of the Dayton Daily News Columbus Bureau.

    Kasich didn’t provide details of his goal of phasing out the state income tax, which provides 46 percent of general fund revenue.

    Strickland wouldn’t get specific about what he would do to eliminate a potential deficit of $8 billion during the next budget cycle, but said after the debate he thinks there is a good chance of more help from the federal government.

    Each candidate was able to find specifics to back up his claims. As evidence that Ohio is not using its money wisely, Kasich cited a 2010 report from the Brookings Institution Metropolitan Policy Program and the Greater Ohio Policy Center that said the state needs to shift more K-12 dollars into the classroom. According to the report, “Ohio ranks 47th in the share of elementary and secondary education spending that goes into instruction and ninth in the share that goes to administration.”

    As evidence that Ohio’s economy is recovering, Strickland cited a report from the Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank that the state’s economy was the sixth fastest growing in the country in the second quarter of the year.

    Kasich added a jab at Strickland with a Dayton connection, NCR’s decision to move to Georgia. Strickland “couldn’t figure out how to keep NCR in the state,” said Kasich.

    Strickland didn’t specifically reply to the charge but said repeatedly that Ohio has cut red tape for businesses.

    There were sharp disagreements. Strickland said the federal funds for a new high speed passenger rail plan connecting Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Dayton would put Ohioans to work and fill a big transportation void.

    Kasich called it a waste of money with trains going an average of only 39 miles per hour and said as governor he would kill it.

    In an impromptu truce during the middle of the debate, Strickland, the son of a steelworker from Appalachia, and Kasich, the son of a mailman from near Pittsburgh, declared that they liked each other.

    At Strickland’s initiative, they shook hands before returning to their verbal brawling.

  91. This is the first I have heard of this high speed train. I did not realize there would be that much job traffic along that corridor in Ohio. However, it does provide jobs, but construction jobs initially. The operation jobs are low paying and a few years off.

    What Ohio needs is to keep their manufacturing jobs, and move more back in. Don’t think this is possible, since the CEOs with their big bonuses for failure continue to outsource overseas.

  92. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    It’s really getting close. I think maybe the cities are coming in now. If so, this may turn into quite a good night for Kelly.

  93. I haven’t been following the NH race, is NH a red state? I think Judd gregg is from there, I think he’s a repub. I think.

    anyone here from NH with any insights?

  94. tim
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    It’s mixed. A very libertartian leaning state, “live free or die”. However, there has been a huge influx of MA residents which has made the state more liberal, but hardly a liberal state. They have one D Senator, and the Gov is D, but conservative Democrats.

    Kelly Ayotte would likely beat Hodes. Lamontange would have a harder time.

  95. Ayotte takes the lead. 48.5% precincts reporting:

    Ayotte 38.5%
    Lamontagne 38.2%

    Ayotte was backed by Sarah Palin. Lamontagne had the Tea Party endorsement. Palin scores again if Ayotte wins.

  96. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    I think those cities are starting to come in. If so, I don’t see how Lamontange takes the lead back.

  97. I find this rather amusing from the Palin fans.

    the NSRC reports:
    “Until she demonstrates some viability in the polls we are not going to have any money for her,” a top Republican official told CNN. “It is now incumbent on Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint and the Tea Party Express to help support her. They got her here. Now make it happen.”

    then the Palin blog reports:
    This logic is outrageous. It’s the NRSC’s job to make her viable. The reason why McMahon has been able to trim her deficit from 20 to 6 is through money. Obviously, O’Donnell lacks McMahon’s personal resources. That’s why the NRSC must step in and lend a hand.”

  98. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Wow, I’m shocked, that’s where the bigger cities are. I would have expected Lamontagne to do better in the North. I consider that more conservative, but maybe that’s just my father-in-law. LOL. He must be from that part of the state, no? Whereas Ayotte has already won state-wide as attorney general.

  99. Mj, Ayotte is Attorney General but that is an appointed office. She has not run statewide before (we’re pretty sure this is the case but have not checked to verify). It is odd that the county with Manchester and Nashua are for Lamontagne (again, we have not seen the numbers on a precinct by precinct basis but we surmise that he did well in these big cities/towns).

  100. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    I agree. I find that so odd.

    She’s winning the county with Concord, but he’s doing quite well in Mnachester, and that really could determine the winner. Maybe the Tea Party is more active in the city and thus able to pull more voters to the polls. It’s odd.

  101. admin
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    The Republicans are making a big gamble tonight. If the Tea Party candidates win they will have removed their hated “RINOs” and put strong conservatives in the Senate. If they lose, the lose the chance to take the Senate. This is going to be a wait and see how big the wave is.
    ——-
    Yes, Admin. The RNC not supporting Tea candidates is as big of a mistake as Obama DNC thinking they don’t need Hillary supporters. You can’t split your party and come out a winner without major cheating. And BarryBoy is the King of the Cheats.

    This is the same mistake the Rethugs made in not supporting McCain, and why we are stuck with this fraud for at least two more years. At least he will be a lame duckbun for 2 years.

  102. Via Mediaite, not a surprise given their tepid congratulatory message tonight but a big mistake nonetheless if true. I understand the logic here — they want to do triage by not wasting money on a race they think is unwinnable — but they’re going to alienate a ton of “true conservatives” by writing off their new champion. And of course they’ll further deepen the rift between the grassroots and the, ahem, “ruling class,” of which the Beltway GOP is the very definition. They’re trying to limit the damage from the race but they’re only going to end up expanding it, and to pull the plug on her when she’s literally in the middle of her victory speech will stick in the craw of righties nationwide who are excited by her win. Just spend what you have to spend on her to give her a fair chance of winning, which is unlikely but possible. If you shortchange her, you only alienate people you need in November.

    To see how deep the rift is, read this dispiriting Hotline piece about Republican leadership aides bitter about DeMint’s role in pushing an easy pick-up into the “likely Democratic” column. A bad, bad situation.

    Update: People are asking for links to her donation page. Looks like there are two sites and both are down at the moment, but they should be here and here.
    ——————————–
    This is exactly right. It what I have been saying all along about Michael Steele. In a tough battle I would not want him in my foxhole. The real conservatives in the party have no use for him and are not contributing to the RNC. Here is some friendly advice to Steele. Laddy bunk you need to get a pair of cajones. Sometimes you fight a battle you may not win just to prove you stand by your people and the candidates they nominate. Retreat is a retrograde maneuver and triage is retreat.

    There is a thought provoking reader comment in the Wall Street Journal today which said the Republican Party needs to decide what kind of party they are going to be. I suppose you could make an assumption that true conservatives do not sell in the northeast, so if you want to win there you must elect these tepid people like Collins, Brown and Snowflake. But in that case you will never have a united party.

  103. Mike Castle will not endorse O’Donnell, according to The Hill. Is this being a sore loser or commendable ? After you lose to someone you think very little of, should you endorse them? Hillary endorsed Obama but Hillary has a career ahead of her whereas Mike Castle is probably done. There is also the argument that if you engage in a contest with someone in a primary there is an understood agreement that you support the winner. Is Castle a sore loser or a man of principle?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/118847-castle-will-not-back-odonnell

  104. Castle is a sore loser. Primaries reflect for whom the respective party members prefer to vote. Castle had a big edge in money, and had the party apparatus supporting him, and he still couldn’t win. This just shows how out of step the party leadership is with the party membership. The leadership is just like the national demorat leadership. They want you to support them, and in the mean time, your opinions mean nothing.

  105. To see how deep the rift is, read this dispiriting Hotline piece about Republican leadership aides bitter about DeMint’s role in pushing an easy pick-up into the “likely Democratic” column. A bad, bad situation.
    ———————————————————————————–
    The Republicans who hate DeMint are the same people who hate Sarah. They did more behind the scene to try to knife her than anyone on the left. And it always gets back to these staff bastards–more so than the candidates themselves. Bitter at the loss by their candidate, they leak rumors about their own candidate to the press, and the press being an arm of the Obama administration are only too happy to run with it. Any staffie caught doing this stuff should be terminated with extreme prejudice. The goal here, meaning our goal, is to get rid of Obama and get Hillary.

  106. Wbboei, the Republicans made a big mistake giving Steele the job. Then again if they didn’t give Steele the job they would have been called racists. They could have gone with Ken Blackwell but who knows, Blackwell was not much of a party builder either. Add to the list of people Republicans should not have in a foxhole – the NYState Republican chairman Cox. He really has made a mess of things in NY.

    The Obama Dimocrats need to dump Kaine ASAP – a total dud. Perhaps that is the announcement tomorrow – a mass Hari Kari Seppuku ceremony at DNC/OAF.

  107. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 1:02 am
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    I had a laugh at the comment below from the link that you posted.

    Who’s going to break it to O’Donnell? If she doesn’t like masturbation, she’s going to HATE the Senate.
    BY Steven on 09/15/2010 at 00:55

  108. admin
    September 15th, 2010 at 1:10 am
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    Agree on all points. Blackwell came to mind as well. But as you say he has no track record as a party builder.

    All I want for Christmas is three things: a Democratic party that behaves like a Democratic party, a Republican party that behaves like a Republican Party and Hillary in the White House. Only then could I sleep soundly through the night. Only then would I know the country was in good hands. And only then could I have any realistic hope that our children have a future.

    PS: If Obama was impeached and ended up in jail as well that would be like manna from heaven. I am reasonably sure that the bespoke tailors of Saville Row could find him a pin striped suit to match the occasion. And Reggie would Love to go with him to make sure he was not molested by some angry voters, FOX News or Brietbart associates with cameras.

  109. This writer knows what he is talking about. When I learn that Rove and Kristol have been carrying Castles water, and that he could be the controlling vote on major legislation, I am relieved he lost. And seeing his lack of sportsmanship I am doubly glad. Lincoln said if you want to test a man’s character give him power. But the reverse is also true. Tonight Castle tasted defeat as we all will if we live long enough. And by refusing to endorse her he showed that he is not a man of character.
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    Don’t Repeat The Mistakes Of The Past

    Posted by Ben Domenech (Profile)
    Tuesday, September 14th at 11:13PM EDT
    62 Comments

    As an observer, primaries like the sort just concluded in Delaware are incredibly amusing. It’s an opportunity to see bloggers, reporters and flacks who’ve never won anything anywhere declare emphatically that someone will definitely or can’t possibly win in a state they’ve never run a campaign in, and in some of the more absurd cases, have never even been to. The best part is, a lot of these folks end up getting on television and talking about it, intoning with certainty like the blind men and the elephant. And they get paid to do it! (I love America.)

    Amateurs like to read tea leaves and polling data to devise predictions. In a conventional political year, this might give you some degree of accuracy — but in a year like this, as we’ve seen, it’s about as much of a sure thing as having a grizzly bear pick your fantasy football team. So when Karl Rove said she couldn’t win, even as my politically moderate relatives told me they liked Christine O’Donnell, I put a heavier weight on their opinion. After all, the people saying this — unlike Rove, Kristol, and scads of other observers who’ve blatantly carried water for Castle over the past few weeks — actually live and vote in Delaware. It seemed like a stretch to me, but I trusted the bear, and I got Arian Foster in the 12th round. Shows me what I know.

    Some of these consultants and flacks conceded any pretense to ideological conservatism long ago. Yet some political observers who are smart and respectable — RS’s own Dan McLaughlin is one of these — have ended up at the view that a guy like Mike Castle needed to win. Dan’s post is as fine a thing as you can read on the matter. I also think it’s wrong.

    Here’s my view: Conservatives should not tolerate the likes of Mike Castle because of the simple fact that a 51 member Senate with Mike Castle is a Senate where Mike Castle is the most important vote in the room. As Specter and others before him, that Senator will set the terms of policy debates, determining in advance what can succeed and fail. Those who advance the argument that a majority with Castle is better than being in the minority tend to place priorities on Senate committee chairmanships and staff ratios and lobbyist cash… a list which pales in comparison to the power they would wield as the broker for both sides. Again and again I saw this play out during my time as a Senate staffer, and anyone who tells you contrary is incredibly naive about the way legislative decisions are made.

    As a friend of mine in the business of campaigns and elections has said, electing moderates simply to secure a majority for Republicans is a self-defeating proposition. We’ve seen this play out time and again. Career politicians abhor principle, and adore power and fecklessness. Their presence in Washington provides constant aid and comfort to the Left. They dilute the brand, confuse voters and sell out conservatives just at the moment they are needed most.

    It’s not about being right rather than winning, it’s about the definition of winning in the long term, which cannot be done with elected politicians who don’t believe in conservatism.

    In the end, it’s really that simple.

  110. Obama impeached?

    Gingrich’s House impeached Bill on a simple majority vote, iirc. The Senate, needing 67 votes, of course acquitted him.

    Impeachment is a lovely thought, but c. 17 new GOP Senators????

  111. I agree with Castle that O’Donnell is unfit for office. He should endorse the democrat. I might even vote for Coons now.

  112. I’m not following this, but it seems like if someone is really unfit for office, you’d release your evidence BEFORE they win a primary.

    Unless you wanted them to win the primary so the other side would win in November.

  113. turndownobama
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:19 am

    They did release the evidence. And, hell, she made her own case against herself for weeks. Just one of those crazy things, I suppose.

  114. The pundits are idiots. Either Ayotte or Lamontagne will slaughter Paul Hodes in NH. Hodes was one of the first congress-critters in the country to endorse Obama and pocket his $5000. He’s a total Obamabot and the voters of NH will go up the side of his head with one of Chucky Schumer’s 2 by 4s in November.

  115. Wasn’t it not so long ago that Sharron Angle was the unelectable kook in another state? Looks like Harry is worried; he’s going to tack DADT and DREAM onto a defense policy bill.
    WASHINGTON — U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday he wants to attach an amendment to a defense policy bill that would help young people in the United States illegally become legal U.S. residents…The young people must have come to the country when they were under 16 years of age and have been in the country five years. Those who join the military must serve at least two years and complete two years of college… Some critics say Democrats’ end-of-the-year push on immigration reform is a political move. Reid is facing a tough re-election challenge from tea party favorite Sharron Angle, who supports tougher immigration laws…
    h t t p://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/reid-add-immigration-measure-defense/

  116. Just found this comment (it’s #24) under Gateway’s Rove post:
    “These ruling class Republicans have got to GO! Even if it means reducing our short term wins….”

    Do we have more in common with Repub’s than we realize?

  117. So is the “big” annoucement by Time Kaine that the DNC is rolling out a brand new web site that looks completely different?

    If that is the big annoucement, be still my heart.

  118. Just heard on FOX News that they are going to rename extending the Bush tax cuts for those making under $250K, the OBAMA TAX CUT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.

  119. is that it, a new website, i knew it would be lame, maybe they should be focussing on something else, oh i dont know, winning elections, listening to the voter.

  120. I hear on Good Morning American that the Republican party will in no way support or spend any money to get O’Donnell elected. So I wonder when the American voters begin to understand that if the Part decides (Not the Voters) wh should run, that is law. It was obvious in 2008, had O not won, the Dems reaction would have been interesting.

    In this state if the Party candidate does not win in th Primary system, somehow a convenient scandal last minute comes up, and Richardson appoints a new Dem nominee, without them going through the party system. It happened here.

    So, how low does our non democratic system have to go before the voters clean house. How many people gave to the Reps expecting them to support the Primary nominee, and now see them shunning her.

  121. Looks like Kelly Ayotte is going to pull this out in NH, she’s now pulled ahead in all counties except hillsborough.

  122. I think Bill and Hillary should organize a new centrist Democratic party. I bet more Americans would join their party than either the repugs or the dims. I have never seen the country so poised to reject the two parties. People crave a functional alternative.

  123. We definately need a strong alternative to what we have. Someone needs to clean house, and put the voters back in charge.

  124. Laura Ingram is going nuts on the Republican elites including Rove, Steele, Krauthammer9sp),NRNC..she put the national rep number up and is encouraging people to call about not supporting O’Donnell. All the callers are saying the same thing we are about the Dems. They want to clean house.

  125. More bullsh**t. And so it begins, continues, whatever…the media is onboard and going strong.

    President Obama seeks his inner Bill Clinton and feels voters’ pain

    By Sam Youngman – 09/13/10

    President Obama told a small crowd in Fairfax, Va., on Monday that he would stand in the hot sun with them and “feel their pain.” He was meeting with a Fairfax family for a backyard discussion on the economy in an effort to improve voter perceptions about his empathy with ordinary people.

    Unlike former President Clinton, who famously felt the pain of voters during a recession, Obama has not connected emotionally with voters over their worries and fears.

    Voters two years ago appreciated Obama’s cool, professorial demeanor; it earned him praise, as in “No drama Obama,” and drew favorable contrasts with both President George W. Bush and the Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.). But it is widely perceived as less appealing now, as the administration has struggled to revive the economy and convey an impression of strong management.

    Democratic strategists worry the president is seen as too aloof, and that this gets in the way of the administration’s message that the economy is slowly but surely recovering. An Associated Press/GfK poll late last month showed that only 41 percent of those surveyed approve of the way Obama is handling the economy.

    Democratic strategists worry this disconnect will lead to losses for Democrats at the polls in November, when the party fears it could lose control of the House and Senate. “The problem is he doesn’t seem like he’s always trying to be empathetic,” said one Democratic strategist.

    “They have been missing the need for the emotional connection people need in times like this — but they’ve needed it for two years,” another Democratic strategist said.

    Publicly, the White House rejects the idea that Obama’s style has led to any disconnect with voters.
    “Rooted in his hands-on experience working in Chicago communities confronting tough economic challenges, President Obama has a down-to-earth style that demonstrates to middle-class Americans that he’s willing to take on special interests as he fights for the interests of working folks,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

    Still, the president’s recent rhetoric and press events, including Monday’s backyard discussion with the Fairfax family’s neighbors and small-business owners from the area, suggest the White House recognizes it has an issue.

    The area Obama chose to visit has a median household income more than twice the nation’s average, and he visited a two-income family. Still, the Fairfax family, John Nicholas and Nicole Armstrong and their twin children, are no strangers to the tough economic times. Nicholas has survived several layoffs at his Internet-services company, while Armstrong recently returned to part-time work as an administrator at a local preschool to help pay the family’s bills, according to the White House. Their savings took a beating during the recession, and they are hoping for a rebound.

    Obama’s professorial style was on display during the backyard discussion, as he ticked off the list of things he has done to help the middle class. He talked about his administration’s support for Wall Street reform, as well as his support for middle-class tax cuts. But Obama also sought to connect with his hosts by noting that he and Michelle Obama, along with their two girls, were living a life very similar to the Fairfax family’s not too long ago. “Michelle and I always laugh about it when people talk about us — I think they forget that we were basically living the same lives as John and Nicole, just — it wasn’t that long ago,” Obama said. “It was, like, six, seven years ago.”


    Obama grew up in a lower-middle-class home, and until a few years ago, he and the first lady were still paying off their student loans.

    In recent weeks, the president has returned to discussing that history in order to put a personal touch on his list of economic policy positions. Obama still reads 10 letters a day from average Americans to keep connected to what voters are going through.

    Some Democratic strategists welcome the White House move to try to put Obama in situations where he can connect with voters. They say the problem isn’t Obama. It’s a White House that hasn’t made good use of the president. “He is good at this, and in the last few weeks, he’s been very good in what he’s been saying and in being out campaigning for the agenda,” one Democrat said. “Unfortunately, up until the last couple of weeks, the White House has focused more on telling rather than showing. “These are emotional issues; people want to see him.”

    Strategist Jamal Simmons said the difference in styles between Clinton and Obama isn’t a bad thing.
    “Bill Clinton was like a protective older brother ready to rush out to the schoolyard, but President Obama’s empathy is more like your family physician reassuring you that he has a handle on the problem and everything will be OK,” Simmons said.

    “They are different, but Obama’s approach can still hit the mark.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/118541-obama-tries-to-connect

  126. I have deep reservations now about Castle. He had the support of the very elitists who wrecked the Republican Party, meaning Rove, Kristol, etc. He saw himself as the power broker in congress, and then poof it was all gone So now he sits in the corner and takes shots. I have seen his kind before. A terminal case of Potomac fever, before he even won an election or left Wilmington. I think he has deep character flaws, and if he runs as an independent, the anti Obama voters who cannot support the Republican candidate should just stay home.

  127. More news on the Mmosque Imam’s building. It seems that his building is in very bad shape and the government is now getting involved. He doesn’t even have a viable fire alarm system. They are talking about putting it into receivership. As one of his tenants said, “He can’t even manage a small apartment building. Why should he be entrusted with managing a Mosque?”.

  128. Just heard on FOX News that they are going to rename extending the Bush tax cuts for those making under $250K, the OBAMA TAX CUT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.

    Southernborn, I find that very ironic, since for 8 years all we heard was that Bush ONLY gave tax cuts to the rich. The far left screamed and yelled about that. There was evidently NO SUCH THING as a Bush tax cut for the middle class, it was a LIE, all his tax cuts went only to the UBER RICH, dontcha know! All we heard about was the evil Bush, doing everything for the wealthy and nothing for the rest of us. Turns out that’s not quite the WHOLE story, now is it?

    Funny how the very thing they claimed never existed, is what they now desperately want to hold on to and claim credit for. Same thing as Obama following Bush’s Iraq withdrawal plan to a tee, then acting like HE made some brave decision to bring the troops home, a decision Bush would not have made. Liar. This is why party politics make me ill. They all lie their asses off, on BOTH sides of the aisle.

  129. On O’Donnell, I think she’s a weak and maybe fruity candidate, but I applaud the R primary voters for giving a big EFF YOU to the establishment Washington crowd. I applaud that kind of thing on both sides of the aisle – the people are getting fed up with the party power brokers force feeding the primary voters THEIR chosen candidates and telling them to STFU and fall in line.

    Regardless of the outcome of the general, I say good for the DE republican rank and file. Laying aside ideological differences (which I do indeed have), I think that the People breaking some of the stranglehold of the elitist poobahs on our election process is an overall healthy thing, whichever side does it. Watch and learn, Dem voters.

  130. at least some got the message last night

    Cornyn: NRSC fully backing O’Donnell, giving maximum donation
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    It didn’t take long for wiser heads to prevail in the GOP establishment. After a report last night that the NRSC would abandon Delaware after the GOP favorite Mike Castle lost to Christine O’Donnell, Senator John Cornyn has announced that the organization will offer its full support — including a healthy dose of cash:

    Let there be no mistake: The National Republican Senatorial Committee – and I personally as the committee’s chairman – strongly stand by all of our Republican nominees, including Christine O’Donnell in Delaware.

    I reached out to Christine this morning, and as I have conveyed to all of our nominees, I offered her my personal congratulations and let her know that she has our support. This support includes a check for $42,000 – the maximum allowable donation that we have provided to all of our nominees – which the NRSC will send to her campaign today.

    We remain committed to holding Democrat nominee New Castle County Executive Chris Coons accountable this November, as we inform voters about his record of driving his county to the brink of bankruptcy and supporting his party’s reckless spending policies in Washington.

    Furthermore, Cornyn challenged Democrats to do the same:

    It remains to be seen whether national Democrats will provide a similar level of support for many of their nominees, including in key battleground states like Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Arkansas, Illinois, and New Hampshire, among others. The Democrats’ indecision reflects the fact that Republicans are on offense in at least 12 Democrat-held states and we are leading in the polls in seven of those 12 states.

    That’s a sharp way to turn this meme on its head. Will the media follow up on the DSCC’s level of support in those races with the same vigor that they reported on rumors last night regarding Delaware? The DSCC will certainly sink a lot of resources in Delaware in order to take advantage of the high profile the race now has, but that will be money spent on defense, as the Democrats already hold this seat — and it may take away from defenses elsewhere.

    Kudos to Cornyn for addressing this quickly and forcefully. If Castle had won, we would have heard nothing but calls for unity this morning. Cornyn has literally put the NRSC’s money where its mouth would have been, and he deserves congratulations for this leadership decision.

  131. Obama impeached?

    Gingrich’s House impeached Bill on a simple majority vote, iirc. The Senate, needing 67 votes, of course acquitted him.

    Impeachment is a lovely thought, but c. 17 new GOP Senators????
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    As much as I would like to see the rethugs go after Obama like they did WJC; with more thought, it’s a terrible idea. The last thing that needs to be done is make a martyr out of this sociopathic stooge. The best thing is to let him sink into well deserved contempt all by himself.

  132. This comment is for tim, and it goes hand in hand with something wobbei posted upthread.
    I highlighted the section in which I find myself in total agreement, and why Christine O’Donnell should be supported. Also, I see similarities in the way both Hillary Clinton, and Sarah Palin were and are attacked for being “unelectable” for one reason or another. It’s all bullshit. There’s not a politician out there that I agree with 100%, but I will support the person who gives me the best chance at getting most of what I want if he or she is elected. Mike Castle would have given me more obama. Enough of that already!
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    http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/09/ace-clouthier-and-domench-and-why-weve-already-won.html

    Ace, Clouthier And Domenech And Why We’ve Already Won
    A RedState post by Ben Domenech hits the nail on the head, he also points out why it would be foolish to concede O’Donnell can’t win. We need to fight hard for that victory, but, in a very real sense, Conservatives have already won. People seem to forget that, every time we go to advance a conservative candidate, the same old GOP establishment lines up to tear them down and tell us they can’t win. Well, O’Donnell wasn’t supposed to win tonight. Yet, she did. Read the whole thing. Then see Ace for five reasons O’Donnell could win. Melissa Cloutheir points out what went down tonight once the result was known.

    Here’s my view: Conservatives should not tolerate the likes of Mike Castle because of the simple fact that a 51 member Senate with Mike Castle is a Senate where Mike Castle is the most important vote in the room. As Specter and others before him, that Senator will set the terms of policy debates, determining in advance what can succeed and fail. Those who advance the argument that a majority with Castle is better than being in the minority tend to place priorities on Senate committee chairmanships and staff ratios and lobbyist cash… a list which pales in comparison to the power they would wield as the broker for both sides. Again and again I saw this play out during my time as a Senate staffer, and anyone who tells you contrary is incredibly naive about the way legislative decisions are made.

    For those falsely accusing me of supporting a purge, or some other nonsense, for going at Rove and the NRSC – I honestly don’t know what you’re thinking folks. The people won a great victory tonight – one I didn’t actually expect. And the first thing the GOP establishment did via both Rove and the NRSC, was jump out and try to stomp all over it.

    Don’t be angry with me. If they hadn’t done that, I wouldn’t have said much beyond congratulations to Christine O’Donnell. And don’t think for a minute what went down was simply happenstance. They are angry and frustrated, thinking, geez, if we can’t beat O’Donnell given all with which we went after her, who the hell is running this show today? And say what you want about O’Donnell, she took a beating but remained standing and strong. Doesn’t she deserve some serious credit for that?

    We beat the Democrat establishment in MA with Scott Brown. We’ve now beaten the GOP establishment with Christine O’Donnell. Yet, the DC establishment has no intention of giving up power. And power is precisely what this is all about for them. The Tea Party and grassroots activists are taking the establishment’s power away. They resent it and, all tonight confirmed was, they are going to fight for it any way they can.

    Pre-election the talk was, will O’Donnell supporters support Castle. Well, guess what, the establishment told us tonight, they are not going to support our candidates when we win, unless they absolutely have to. Some people firing at me for firing back immediately aren’t getting it, in my opinion. And if we want to really win this thing long-term, I’d suggest some think about being prepared to do the same. Everything they hurled at O’Donnell and more is going to be coming right at us going forward.

    And if you don’t get that, I’m sorry, but I don’t think you really know the game. As the saying goes, politics ain’t bean bag. So, get over it – or go throw a bean bag and have some fun. In my opinion, if we really want to win, we are all going to have to be prepared to throw down. The costs of losing this wonderful nation in some inexorable slide to the Left is too great. I hope you’ll think about the challenges before us and fight the real enemy. Neither I, nor Mark Levin, are it, just because you may not care for the way he or I fight. Because, I’m convinced, fight extremely hard and even ruthlessly we must, whether you want to believe that, or not.

    Once again, Ben Domenech.

    And Ace. Also, Melissa Clouthier.

    Finally, congratulations to Christine O’Donnell. She is going to need our help. And given what she weathered, it’s fair to say she earned it, in my opinion, no matter what you may have thought of her as things rolled along.
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    I also found this link very informative about what happened with the Christine O’Donnell win, and the goings on with the Republicans.

    http://libertypundits.net/article/christine-odonnell-and-gop-rage-against-the-machine-people/

  133. Here’s some more insights on the Christine O’Donnell win, and its implications.

    GOP moans about losing chance to take control of Senate with Castle defeatShare35posted at 8:48 am on September 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

    Last week, when trying to keep irrational exuberance in check about the likelihood of taking control of the House, Republicans warned that they might fall short of winning 39 seats in a 435-seat election. Suddenly, in the wake of the rejection of Mike Castle by Delaware Republicans, party officials now want to say that Christine O’Donnell has ruined their chances of netting nine seats in a 35-seat election. Politico’s Jonathan Martin reports on the supposed sad wreck of the grand design:
    Christine O’Donnell’s surprise victory in the Delaware Senate GOP primary Tuesday left Republicans in conflict, senior party officials openly fretting that the Senate is now out of reach and Democrats overjoyed that the opposition has handed them a late and desperately needed chance to reframe the national argument about the 2010 elections.
    Aside from the political implications of the upset, the outcome prompted a round of deep Republican soul-searching about what it said about their party when a political pillar in Delaware like Rep. Mike Castle, a respected lawmaker who was considered a shoo-in for the Senate seat, could not even come within six points of defeating the controversial and still largely unknown O’Donnell. …
    In the wake of Tuesday’s results, a state that would have almost certainly been a pick-up for the GOP is now likely to stay with the Democrats, making it more difficult for Republicans to win the 10 seats necessary to take back control of the Senate.
    “We were looking at 8 to 9 seats in the Senate, we are now looking at 7 to 8 in my opinion,” said a visibly-unhappy Karl Rove on Fox News after the race was called for O’Donnell Tuesday night. “This is not a race we’re going to be able to win.” …
    “This makes the road much steeper for Republicans to win back the Senate because this was a seat they had counted on,” said former Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.), a former House campaign committee chairman.
    Oh, please. Politics relies in part on setting expectations. That’s what Republicans tried doing last week when tamping down predictions of a wave of 60, 70, or even more House seats switching. Now suddenly they’re distraught over the prospects of picking up nine seats in the Senate — when three months ago, a pickup of five or six seats would have been welcomed as a major gain and a way to ensure a Republican presence large enough to force Democrats to come to the table.
    My advice to the GOP would be to quit whining about losing a long-shot bid to win control of the Senate and focus on actually winning the races. In fact, the odds of winning control of the upper chamber didn’t actually decline all that much, because they were small to begin with. Just a few days ago, John Cornyn told a reporter that Democrats would keep control of the Senate through 2012, when Democrats have to defend a lot more seats than the GOP.
    The better question on which to focus is in Martin’s second paragraph. What does Mike Castle’s crash and burn among Delaware Republicans say about their party organization? After all, we have heard oodles of commentary about how Delaware Republicans are moderates who might get energized by the Tea Party but supposedly aren’t looking for conservative candidates. Instead, they convinced Castle to leave a relatively safe House seat instead of looking for someone who hadn’t backed a government takeover of the energy sector in cap-and-trade (in a coal-dependent region!) and co-sponsored the DISCLOSE Act. Perhaps had the GOP establishment listened a little more carefully to Delaware Republicans, who turned out relatively heavily in this election, they wouldn’t find themselves crying in their lattes this morning.
    They stuck with a liberal, establishment candidate in a cycle where liberals and establishment figures are uniquely unpopular. Had the Republican leadership been in touch with Delaware Republican voters, they might have found a more suitable candidate for the popular mood, and would not have had to deal with Christine O’Donnell and her outsider bid. They have no one to blame but themselves.
    Instead of pouting, Republican leaders in Delaware and around the country need to unite around the nominee, who was chosen by the Republicans in Delaware. Had Castle won the nomination, they would have demanded unity themselves, and rightly so. If they want to continue to issue snarky, anonymous asides and in essence take their ball and go home, don’t expect the electorate to follow them into battle in the future. Rarely have I seen such childishness from the supposed leaders of a political establishment, who set the very rules and customs they now want to ignore because they just got embarrassed on a national stage.
    Grow up, shut up, and get to work.

    Update: Kevin McCullough agrees:
    Mike Castle, if he is a man of loyalty to the party he wished to represent should hold fundraisers for O’Donnell beginning next week. Lisa Murkowski should follow suit in Alaska for Joel Miller. And Sue Bowden should be doing the same for Sharron Angle in Nevada.
    In other words if “establishment” candidates are willing to give anything more than lip service to the party they wished to represent, then they should be willing to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work of campaigning for someone they disagree with on issues. And they should do so remembering they are in it for the greater good. …
    We were told that in the end having a majority with an (R) after their name was the best thing of all. Well, I see no reason why that statement can’t hold true when a genuine Republican conservative wins a primary.

    Update II: Glenn Reynolds interviews Scott Rasmussen on the Tea Party and its impact on the GOP and the two-party system. Maybe Republican leadership should pay close

    attention.http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=86&load=4136

    The above video link with Rasmussen is very good. I finally got to see what this guy looks like, too.

  134. From a commenter at HotAir on the ODonnell fallout:

    All Rove is doing right now is destroying himself and showing he is truly a DC denizen. One of many DC Conservatives who are getting upset that all of this isn’t about putting them in charge, but the people themselves.

    This is why I took issue with those who claimed that the teapartiers were just the same old same old, clueless stooges of the GOP, wanting to hand the country back over to the same old lying GOP establishment and call it a “win”. While I still disagree with them on many things, this is NOT some astroturfed fake movement, and those who think it is are dead wrong. These people are genuinely populist, genuinely grassroots, regardless of my policy differences with them. The GOP mouthpieces who have jumped on that bandwagon are scrambling to catch up with the people, not the other way around. And I have no doubt that they, in their heart of evil hearts, believe they can coopt the movement and control it. But based on what I am seeing out there, the teapartiers are having none of it. They REFUSE central control, or being forced into the GOP party line. They are wary of the establishment GOP.

    Agan, this is not about whether I agree with them on all things (I don’t.) It is about realizing what the movement actually IS, rather than what you sneeringly want it to be. It’s a genuine populist movement, not a GOP master plan.

  135. admin
    September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    Warehouse553, Fox News is reporting that the Republican Senate Committee will not support O’Donnell with money or logistics. The Republicans are saying the Tea Party can help her. This is an establishment versus upstarts battle now.
    &&&&&&

    If the Repubs in that state (and nationally) thought O’Donnell was so bad, why couldn’t THEIR man win?? Did they not work hard enough for him? Or raise enough money? Or was their candidate not very inspiring?

    If they are now going to have a hissy fit, then they are burning bridges with their potential ally, the Tea Party.

  136. Okay. I had to stop reading posts mid way through because I can not hold it back any longer!!!! What part of partisan hype is it that now, some Big Pinkers, do not comprehend in regard to O’Donnel being trounced in the general? This is the same thing they did to Sarah and Hillary….the lamestream media and the big boyz bloggers. Alinsky tactics…and you bought it? Oh, those of such little faith as to question Sarah Palin over her vetting. O’Donnell may not win the general; but her election in the primary sure as hell has shaken up the ‘establishment’ Republicans. I for one will work toward her winning in the general. BTW, even if she is a candidate with many flaws – more so than Rangel, Teddy, Obama, Waters, Franks, Dodd, Pelosi, Reid et al????

    And one’s family may not show the whole picture, i.e. in my family there are STILL a couple of exceptionally smart people who are STILL up The Won’s a$$. The effect of that is I have to work extra hard to neutralize them in the upcoming elections. That is why I am now a dedicated activist; and have foregone ‘moderate’to lean toward ‘conservative’ candidates for as we found out during The Won’s first 18 months with catastrophe after captastrophe that ‘moderate’ dimocrats folded when nudged by the current administration.

    And so now, the Republican party is showing its true colors to triage (and to think they did not condone death panels?) the Republican winner in DE???? How disingenious.
    Have I said before that the D and R are two wings of the same bird? If they WANT to win the majority in November, it will be up to them to work hard and make it happen. If they do not make it happen, then they did not WANT it to happen.

  137. rgb, the NRSC has backtracked FAST. They now are saying that of course they will support her, and give money. I’m sure they got a lot of angry calls along the lines of “Who the HELL do you think you are, to tell the rank and file that you will not support THEIR choice for nominee???!!!”

    Methinks it’s the establishment that is having those much-touted “temper tantrums”, not the People. Oh, and last I heard ODonnell has gotten more than $200,000 in donations since last night alone. That’s not GOP money, that’s just individuals. People are PISSED OFF at the arrogance of the elites, in either party.

  138. What part of partisan hype is it that now, some Big Pinkers, do not comprehend in regard to O’Donnel being trounced in the general? This is the same thing they did to Sarah and Hillary….the lamestream media and the big boyz bloggers. Alinsky tactics…and you bought it?

    ======================

    Don’t buy it when it’s done to Rauf, either.

  139. turndownobama, I am starting to get the feeling that you are Muslim, so I apologize to you if I have written things that offended you. It is not about you personally. It is about Islam.

  140. ShortTermer
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
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    I so agree with you! I wrote a comment just a few comments ahead of you about the similarities in the way Hillary and Sarah were treated when compared to Christine.

    I’m a male, and I just go to wonder why it’s the female candidates that get this treatment all of the time.

    Also, what is happening is anti-establishment, and I support what is happening. Both parties exhibit contempt for the people. They can either get on board or get run over.

  141. moononpluto
    September 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
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    I hope she wins. If she turns out to be a true dud, then that’s what elections are for.

  142. turndown, I’m not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that muslim-hate is a huge problem? Hmmm. There are annually, worldwide, a lot more violent attacks on jews and christians by muslims than vice versa. Have you read about the physical attacks and church-burnings in Indonesia?

    Those soccer hooligans are being asses. *shrug* But I’m not sure why all the hand-wringing over a very small minority of religious hate coming from the west, when there is a FAR greater amount of religious hate coming from muslims themselves. There are more Jews physically attacked in this country for religious reasons than there are muslims in any given year. Yet I don’t see you worried to death that a wave of anti-semitism is going to overwhelm this country.

    I’m all for decrying hate whenever it crops up. But your intense, inflated concern for the sensibilities of muslims alone seems a little odd, in light of those facts. Why do they get “special untouchable victim” status, when they are not, in truth, the targets of MOST of the religiously motivated hate in the world?

  143. http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/09/15/lessons-from-delaware-establishment-republicans-are-just-as-bad-as-the-democrats/

    Lessons from Delaware: Establishment Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats
    posted at 10:42 am on September 15, 2010 by Cassy Fiano

    Last night, as conservatives predicted and establishment Republicans feared, Christine O’Donnell defeated Mike Castle in Delaware’s GOP primary. And predictably, establishment Republicans are throwing a gigantic temper tantrum in response. Mike Castle is refusing to endorse O’Donnell. Karl Rove is bitterly complaining (video here), pointing out inanities to try to discredit her like… the “fact” that she took too long to pay off her college bills? (Um, hate to point it out to you Karl, but I think there’s a lot of Americans who can sympathize with that.) It’s been rumored that the NRSC is refusing to back her. And the GOP is blaming her win for losing the chance to take back the Senate in November… although, as Ed Morrissey points out, just last week they were trying to keep expectations of taking back the House (let alone the Senate!) down.
    Like I said, the GOP establishment is throwing a giant temper tantrum. And it’s quite frankly disgusting.
    There’s a lesson to be learned here. And the lesson is that the establishment Republicans are by and large no better than the Democrats. Karl Rove got one thing right, and it’s applicable to most of the RINOs getting voted out of office right now: voters last night were voting more against Mike Castle’s liberal voting record (cap and trade, DISCLOSE) than they were voting for Christine O’Donnell. And that’s exactly the point. Politicians in Washington have become completely infatuated with the power they think they hold. Instead of seeing themselves for what they are — public servants elected by their constituents — they have gotten this deluded notion into their heads that they own the seats they hold in Congress, regardless of whether voters still want them there or not. Arlen Specter switched parties, Charlie Crist is running as an independent and bashing GOP principles he claimed to hold just months ago, Lisa Murkowski is debating a write-in campaign, and Mike Castle is refusing to back Christine O’Donnell. What will it take for them to get the message that WE make the decision? Voters are the ones who choose who they want to represent them, not the beltway establishment. We don’t make the choice that the NRSC wants us to make, and the NRSC sulks.
    The establishment talking point is that O’Donnell cannot win in Delaware because she is too extreme. Well, that may very well be true. But she’d have a much better chance if the establishment would rally behind her than if they played right into the hands of the Democrats. And that’s what they’re doing right now. If Mike Castle had won last night, conservatives would have grudgingly held their noses and stood behind him in order to keep the Democrats from keeping another seat in the Senate. When the situation is reversed, there’s no such sense of unity from the GOP establishment. It’s all take for them and no give, and voters are fed up.
    For years, Republicans in Congress have gotten selfish and lazy. They ignored what their constituents wanted from them, they got tone-deaf, and they turned themselves into the Democrat-lite party. Conservative principles? There’s no home for them right now in the Republican party, and so Republican voters are forcing a change. They’re bringing in new blood and they’re sending a message to the RINOs left standing: adapt or die. If voters wanted spend-happy fat cats that are indistinguishable from Democrats, they would have voted Mike Castle in again. Charlie Crist wouldn’t have been trailing Marco Rubio in all of the polls. Arlen Specter wouldn’t have had to leave the party with his tail tucked between his legs. Voters have spoken, they’re making their voices heard, and Republicans are angry about it. What does that tell you?
    This is about much more than just Christine O’Donnell. This is a fight for the soul of the Republican party. This election season has shown that there is a change coming, like it or not, and the response from the GOP has said everything that needs to be said. The GOP doesn’t respect their constituents anymore than the Democrats do. These primaries aren’t just anti-Democrat, although Democrats will inevitably take the worst of it. It’s anti-incumbent, because most of the incumbents have come to see themselves as some sort of holier-than-thou royalty who deserves a seat in Congress for life. They act in their own interests only, regardless of what is best for the country or what voters want, and Democrats do not have a monopoly on that. Establishment Republicans are just as bad, and voters are fed up.
    A change is coming. The lesson to Republicans is clear. Will they be willing to learn and change? If not, the purge will just keep coming. Adapt or die

  144. “some Big Pinkers, do not comprehend in regard to O’Donnel being trounced in the general? This is the same thing they did to Sarah and Hillary”

    Um…comparing O’Donnell to Sarah Palin or Hillary is like comparing a county commissioner to Lincoln.

    You don’t like to have to like Castle to see that O’Donnell is a hack, a liar, and a (true) nutjob. Hillary polled ahead of or even with McCain for all of 2008. Palin’s nomination pushed McCain ahead of Obama until the economy crashed. Those who said they couldn’t were we thus obviously lying.

    O’Donnell is polling 30 points behind Coons. I’m willing to suspend disbelief, but I’m not willing to believe in unicorns. O’Donnell is not going to win in November, she is no Palin and certainly no Hillary, she is a joke and a major tea party mistake.

    Truth hurts sometimes.

  145. HillaryforTexas
    September 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
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    To top it off, the religious intolerance toward Islam is in response from the intolerance show by Islam to ALL other religions. It’s not like these people are starting something. They are answering to what they see around them in the world. If Islam wants respect, then it needs to show it in kind.

  146. And it might be noted that Hillary is more similar to Castle if anything. Hillary was the choice of reasonable people, moderates, and centrists, and the more prepared candidate. It’s the wacky far left fringe that stabbed her in the back, which is exactly what happened to Castle.

    Now, Castle is no Hillary Clinton, but comparing O’Donnell to Hillary? Not on your life.

  147. The comparison, DEFIANTONE, was with they way Christine has been treated by her compatriots. Is that so difficult to understand?

  148. RUH-ROH: MORE FAVORITISM???

    nytimes.com/2010/09/15/business/15pension.html

    Inquiry Focuses on White House Role in Preserving Union Pensions at Delphi
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    By MARY WILLIAMS WALSH
    Published: September 14, 2010

    The special inspector for taxpayer bailout funds is looking into whether the Obama administration pressed General Motors in bankruptcy to backstop the pensions of the union retirees of a former division, Delphi.

    The inquiry could clarify a lingering mystery of G.M.’s forced restructuring last year: both unionized and white-collar workers earned pensions while at Delphi, a G.M. spinoff also in bankruptcy, but when the federal government took over their failing pension plans, only Delphi’s white-collar retirees suffered painful benefit cuts.

    Neil M. Barofsky, the special inspector general for the Treasury Department’s bailout programs, said he intended to find out “whether political considerations played a role in favoring hourly over salaried retirees.”

    As special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, Mr. Barofsky has extensive power to investigate, but no real power to act on his findings. If his audit turns up evidence of impropriety, it will be up to another federal agency to step in.

    The federal government insures traditional pensions, but its insurance has limits, including, for example, a yearly maximum benefit of $54,000 for a person who is 65 years old when the plan fails. Workers whose companies promised them richer benefits can therefore suffer sharp reductions. Normally, no amount of complaining, lobbying or litigation can make the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation bend the rules.

    When Delphi’s pension plans were terminated last year, many of its 21,000 white-color retirees were warned that their pensions might be cut by 30 to 70 percent. The amounts vary because the insurance rules involve factors like each retiree’s age and years of service, the design of the pension plan and even how much money was in the pension fund when it failed. It can take more than a year for the government to calculate the precise amounts.

    While the white-collar workers waited for bad news, they learned that their blue-collar brethren would not have any pension cuts. Members of Delphi’s three unions would get special payments called “top-ups,” paid by G.M.’s pension fund, to restore whatever the government took away.

    For more than a year, the white-collar retirees have been seeking help in the courts and through members of Congress, demanding to know whether the corporation was right to take over their pension plan, and why union retirees got a much better deal.

    Mr. Barofsky announced his decision to conduct an audit in a letter to Representative Christopher Lee, Republican of New York, who has many Delphi retirees in his district. Mr. Lee released that letter on Monday.

    Mr. Lee wrote to the special inspector in August, saying that American taxpayers had spent $49.5 billion on G.M. and its restructuring, and deserved to know how their money was used.

    Mr. Lee said that lawmakers from both parties had been trying to find out why the white-collar workers were left with lesser pensions, but had been stymied because the Obama administration had not provided suitable witnesses for Congressional hearings.

    Jeffrey Speicher, a spokesman for the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation, said it had applied the insurance rules evenhandedly. He said the top-ups were being paid by G.M.’s pension fund under an agreement G.M. struck with the United Automobile Workers in 1999. G.M. was spinning off Delphi as an independent company, and in response to union concerns about a shortfall in their pension fund, G.M. promised to make Delphi hourly workers whole if Delphi’s pension plan ever failed in bankruptcy.

    The white-collar workers did not get such a commitment from G.M. because their pension plan was fully funded at the time and a failure seemed unlikely. But shortly after the spinoff, the white-collar plan had big losses from which it never recovered. Delphi sought protection in Chapter 11 in part to avoid replacing the lost money.

    Delphi remained in bankruptcy for several years, and G.M. was a major party to those restructuring negotiations. Mr. Speicher said some of those talks led to side agreements, in which some groups of Delphi’s union retirees were folded back into the G.M. pension fund before the company’s pension plans failed. Mr. Barofsky’s audit might include those agreements.

    Because the G.M. pension fund still has billions of credits from contributions in earlier years, it does not appear to be spending any corporate cash making the Delphi union retirees whole.

    Former employees of Chrysler and DaimlerChrysler also lost part of their benefits in Chrysler’s Chapter 11 restructuring last year. But Mr. Barofsky’s audit appears to cover only the unusual circumstances at Delphi. The Chrysler employees have filed a lawsuit against Daimler and Cerberus Capital Management, which restructured workers’ benefits in a way that eliminated the federal pension guarantee.

  149. Oh, so reasonable people supported Mike Castle, and wackos supported Christine O’Donnell. How elitist of you.

    Christine O’Donnell got the support of those who are sick of the establishment candidates. Change is coming, and I thought that is what most people here wanted. Unfortunately, it’s obvious that idea is all words with some.

  150. BUSH’S THIRD TERM

    In the Form of a Study, a Salvo From the Left Questions Obama’s Trade Goals
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    By SEWELL CHAN
    Published: September 14, 2010

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has set a goal of doubling American exports over five years, and has called on Congress to eventually ratify free-trade agreements that were negotiated by the Bush administration with South Korea, Colombia and Panama.

    But a report by a group that is skeptical of trade liberalization questions whether the first goal requires the second. The group, Public Citizen, will release a study Wednesday saying that in the last 12 years, exports to the 17 countries with which the United States has free-trade agreements grew at a slightly slower pace than exports to other countries.

    Public Citizen, a left-leaning group that is critical of globalization, also found that last year, when trade fell worldwide in response to the financial crisis, American exports to free-trade partners shrank at a slightly higher rate than exports to other nations. And free-trade deals, moreover, have helped exacerbate the nation’s overall trade deficit, a major source of global economic imbalance.

    The report is largely a response to arguments made by the United States Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers, two powerful business groups, that believe the free-trade agreements are crucial to the success of President Obama’s National Export Initiative.

    The extent to which the two goals are linked is a timely topic, as members of the President’s Export Council, an advisory committee on trade, are scheduled to meet Thursday. The panel is led by W. James McNerney Jr., the chairman and chief executive of Boeing, and is to deliver recommendations on how to achieve the export goals Mr. Obama laid out in January.

    Robert Z. Lawrence, professor of international trade and investment at the Harvard Kennedy School, said that many factors drive export growth, not just free-trade agreements. But he also said that trade agreements that lower tariffs and other trade barriers promote exports as a matter of course.

    Arguments on both sides that rely on historical data should be treated with caution, said Mr. Lawrence, who was a member of President Bill Clinton’s Council of Economic Advisers, because it is difficult to isolate the effects of free-trade agreements on export levels, leaving aside other factors.

    For example, exports from the United States to Canada increased sharply for about six years after the two countries completed a 1988 trade accord. But the North American Free Trade Agreement, which went into effect in 1994, did not have an identical effect on American trade with Mexico, in large part because of that country’s currency crisis later the same year.

    Mr. Obama has directed the United States trade representative, Ron Kirk, to resolve outstanding concerns about a free-trade agreement with South Korea before leaders of the Group of 20 nations meet in Seoul, South Korea, in November. That deal has languished primarily because of American concerns over nontariff barriers in South Korea to American automobiles as well as different concerns by both countries about American beef exports to South Korea.

    Mr. Obama has similarly pledged to move forward on pending agreements with Colombia and Panama, though he has not set out a specific time frame. The stumbling blocks include concerns over violence against union organizers in Colombia, and over labor and tax rules in Panama.

    But the fundamental political division over free trade is an age-old one: even if trade liberalization has a net benefit for the American economy, it can have vastly disproportionate effects, particularly for workers whose jobs are displaced. For that reason, Mr. Lawrence predicted that Congress would not act on the agreements until next year at the soonest.

    Jeffrey J. Schott, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and formerly a longtime trade negotiator for the United States, said that labor unions and groups like Public Citizen were correct that there was not enough of a safety net for workers.

    “A lot of opponents to free-trade agreements are not necessarily opposing trade but rather the placement of such a large burden of adjustment on the worker, and that’s a legitimate complaint,” he said. “Blocking trade or imposing protectionism is not the answer. But neither party has been willing to come up with the types of programs that would create a better balance.”

    Carol J. Guthrie, a spokeswoman for Mr. Kirk, said exports of goods had “grown by leaps and bounds since January” and that the growth had been led by shipments to countries with which the United States has free-trade agreements, or F.T.A.’s.

    “American goods exports to F.T.A. partner countries increased by nearly 27 percent from January through July, compared to a still-excellent 20 percent export growth to non-F.T.A. partners,” she said.

    A spokesman for the National Association of Manufacturers said the group believed that free-trade agreements were necessary but not sufficient for achieving the goal of doubling exports. The government should do a better job promoting exports, making financing for exports available, lowering export controls and successfully concluding the long-delayed Doha round of world trade talks, he said.

  151. The comparison, NOMOBANA, is off base, period. Hillary Clinton’s compatriots are the adults among us, the centrists, the moderates, non-ideologues, serious working folks, people who recognize and value experience, preparedness, and who think critically and realize elections have consequences.

    Those people did not betray or mistreat Hillary.

    As for Christine’s compatriots, well, they are a joke, just as she is. And they don’t have a darn thing in common with Hillary Clinton.

  152. Call it elitist if you want. If the truth is elitst, then I’ll be that.

    Christine and her supporters are wacky. If you can’t say ‘Amen’ say ‘ouch.’ Change is NOT coming because by nominating her they have just guaranteed the election of an Obama Democrat. Is that what passes for logic in the O’Donnell-land of make believe?

  153. Whoops

    Wednesday, September 15, 2010
    Coons up big
    Republicans more than likely cost themselves a Senate seat last night. Chris Coons begins the general election in Delaware with a 50-34 lead over Christine O’Donnell. Mike Castle would have led Coons by a 45-35 margin.

    While O’Donnell may have ingratiated herself to Delaware’s small group of registered Republicans over the last month she’s turned off everyone else. An August Daily Kos/PPP poll in Delaware found her favorability rating at 23/33. It’s now 29/50.

    If Castle had won he would have received more Democratic support than any other Republican Senate candidate in the country. Now our polling suggests with O’Donnell’s victory that Coons will win more Republicans than any other Democratic Senate candidate in the country. That’s because of a general unwillingness to support O’Donnell from Castle’s moderate base- folks from the centrist wing of the GOP are planning to support Coons 54-31. Overall he takes a full 25% of the GOP vote while also largely consolidating the Democratic base for a 72-13 lead on that front. He also has a narrow 42-36 advantage with independents, a group Democrats are losing with most everywhere else.

    Only 31% of voters in the state think O’Donnell’s fit to hold public office while 49% think that she is not. Even with Republicans in the state less than half at 48% believe that she is. That may seem inconsistent with her victory last night but keep in mind that our general election poll includes GOP voters who were not planning to vote in yesterday’s primary. Only 33% of independents and 16% of Democrats believe O’Donnell’s fit.

    Coons himself is largely undefined. 36% of voters don’t know enough about him to have formed an opinion and those who have split pretty evenly with 31% seeing him favorably and 33% unfavorably. But given O’Donnell’s considerable baggage he will probably win this race as long as he can avoid making any serious mistakes in the next 7 weeks. And his personal numbers are likely to go up as voters in the state shift their attention to the general election and begin getting to know him better.

    The result of the Delaware primary last night is the best thing that has happened to Democrats electorally since election night in 2008.

  154. Goodness, America is totally amazing! Where else in the world can a political party undergo wrenching change – from the bottom – in full and public view. The Tea Party is doing the GOP an immense favor – forcing it to renew itself. The Democrats – well! They risk being on the wrong side of history. Last night and the public reactions to the ‘establishment’ responses may well be Malcolm Gladwell’s tipping point. I cannot think of a single other society in the world that could pull this off without being co-opted into tyranny. I am British and Canadian and I’m jealous!

  155. Believe what you DefiantOne.

    By the way, I put your names in caps because that is the way I thought I had seen your name. It wasn’t done to emphasize it.

    Change is indeed coming. It’s been coming all along. I have written that Christine will have a tough time winning in Delaware, but that doesn’t mean change is NOT coming. It’s been happening since obamacare.

    I also don’t buy into the media pushed meme that Christine is a complete wackjob. Let’s see how much that -30 moves in the next couple of months. If Christine gets the right people helping her, she could very well win. I would love to see Coons under more scrutiny, too.

  156. This darn job is making me waaaaay behind on the posts 😆

    Admin-
    Do you vote for a candidate who will repeatedly let you down once in office because that candidate can actually win the election? Or, do you decide to vote for the candidate you actually like even if there is a greater possibility you will lose the election? That victory in Delaware might be the seat that triggers a Republican takeover of the U.S. Senate heightens the gamble. Is this stupid, or principled, suicidal or wise? Republicans will let us know what they think in Delaware tonight.
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    That is the QUESTION!

    Do I vote for someone that SHOULD be in office, or someone I hate, just to try and defeat Obama?

    The Rethugs are having the same problem placing their bets for which will win.

    Brings one thing to mind, did Hillary quit when it was said that she couldn’t win? NOPE.

    Did she end up winning, YUP.

    Did it matter that she won when it was stolen away from her?

    Isn’t that why we are all here now?

    Did the Rethugs support McCain even if us Democrates gave him our first Rethug vote in our lifetime?

    Nothing is a sure bet these days, especially when honesty in vote counting, campaign promises can’t be taken to the bank.

    Some of it is just a crap shoot.
    We do the best we can to guess the outcome and hope to God the right person is going to stick to their principles.

    Only Hillary and Bill can be trusted in my book.

  157. Sure seems to be a lot of folk with their knickers in a knot over a tea party candidate sending another establishment go-along to get-along career Congress-critter into retirement. I don’t think people understand the power of the tea party movement in American politics right now. The message, to the establishment Democrats AND Republicans is, “Be afraid. Be very afraid.”

    I, personally, think this is the best thing that’s happened in American politics in a very long time. You basically have the voters saying, “we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it any more.” These idiots in Washington better start listening. How many more of them need to be beat over the head and sent packing before they get the message?

  158. Oh yeah, I’m almost excited again with this news of O’Donnell. Your right she can’t be any worse than the jerks in office already and she is DEFINITELY not part of the crackheads that got this country in the shape its in today….she where do I send her some money….and where do I sign up for the tea party…hmmm, hmmm, I guess its a real party.

    Hats OFF to Palin, she has some testicles….wonder if she’s been getting nasty phone calls???

  159. Christine herself pushed the meme that she is whackjob by lying about her credentials, filing frivolous lawsuits, equating masturbation with adultery, not holding a real job by being a perpetual office seeker. She will have to answer for the things she has said and done; the “media” did not force her to say and do them.

    She’ll have a tough time winning in Delaware like a camel has a tough time flying, but whatever. Chalk it up as another automatic for Obama and move on. I do feel sorry for Delaware’s independents and centrists who now have to choose between an Obamacrat and a real nut, rather than an Obamacrat and a boring career politician.

  160. DefiantOne, I get what you are saying, and I agree – ODonnell is no Hillary or even Sarah as far as chops and character.

    But where the similarities are is in how she is being treated by the establishment of her own party. You have to leave aside whether you agree with her uber-conservative positions or not in order to get your head around this.

    The point is that the R primary voters have the right to choose their candidate. Whether you, or I, or their leadership thinks that choice is batshit insane is irrelevant. When a primary occurs, the party’s DC leadership has no business bullying and throwing their weight around in an excessive way to engineer the outcome. And once the primary voters of a party make a choice, the role of the party is to support that choice. It is about the PEOPLE’S right to choose their own candidate within their own party.

    So yes, the situation is similar, even though the candidates themselves may be worlds apart. I don’t think anyone is comparing Hillary to O’Donnell in the sense of who they are. But in the sense of the establishment actively trying to tear down a candidate that the voters of her party support? Yes, it’s very similar.

    It’s about LETTING THE PEOPLE CHOOSE, not about whether you like their choice or not. Does that make more sense?

  161. The message, to the establishment Democrats AND Republicans is, “Be afraid. Be very afraid.”

    Well, in this case, the message to establishment Republicans is be afraid, but the message to Democrats was, ‘Here’s a free Senate seat you were about to lose, you can thank us later.’

  162. People who despise Sarah Palin, are doing everything they can to tie Palin and O’Donnell together. Good. I’d rather be associated with a Sarah Palin than some whimpy assed Republican in name only by the name of Castle, or a no good president named obama. Even if a Democrat wins the Senate seat in Delaware, a couple more years of Democrat governship will turn even some of the most diehard Democrats against them. The current Demonrat party is a pus filled boil that will eventually pop. It may not happen in some states in 2010, but it will happen. Even deep blue states like Delaware will support conservatives. Ronald Reagan, anyone?

  163. Honestly, both sides could be playing games with these seats….like the senate seat in North Carolina. Clyburn said that Green guy was put in there by the republicans and certainly the democrats could have stuck it to them in Delaware as an answer back. IF this is what the major parties are doing while the country is out of work….God help both of them…when Joe Blow figures all this out!

  164. I get your point, Hillaryfor Texas. Thank you, actually, the point is well taken and makes perfect sense.

    However, I differ in that I think insanity is quite relevant. Thus, I am not knee-jerk anti-establishment just for the sake of being anti-establishment. I am anti-establishment when the establishment is wrong and pro-establishment when they are right.

    I do not, cannot, will not endorse insanity. Insanity is not to be ignored simply because it comes from the grassroots.

    And I will note also that had Sarah Palin (Republican kingmaker) and Jim DeMint (establishment DC Republican) stayed out of the race and let voters decide instead of manipulating the base, the Republicans would have picked up this seat. So I will take it one step further and say out of state influences need to stay out of local primaries, period, if this insanity is any evidence.

  165. “Even deep blue states like Delaware will support conservatives. Ronald Reagan, anyone?”

    Incidentally, tax-raising, overspending, deficit-ballooning Reagan would be considered a mushy RINO who needs to be primaried out in today’s tea party environment.

  166. #
    Carol
    September 15th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    I think Bill and Hillary should organize a new centrist Democratic party. I bet more Americans would join their party than either the repugs or the dims. I have never seen the country so poised to reject the two parties. People crave a functional alternative.
    ——–
    That is on my wish list too!

  167. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha

    This sounds awfully familiar – like what Squat did. Worked well for him.

    “……..lying about her credentials…..not holding a real job by being a perpetual office seeker. She will have to answer for the things she has said and done; the “media” did not force her to say and do them.”

  168. I take your point also, DefiantOne. And I’d agree that out of state influence is a monkeywrench in the works, on all sides. However, I don’t think that in the age of instant communication and net connectivity that you are ever going to have local-only influence again. Races get nationalized, because their votes affect the whole country. However, the republican voters of DE made their choice. I think she’ll lose big, but I still respect the right of those voters to make that choice themselves. Many of them made it knowing she would likely lose to the Dem, but maybe felt a message to their own party about not trampling on the voters was more important long-term.

    I think that a lot of people in this country are getting alarmed about the lack of truly representative govt. I’d like to see all the voters honestly represented in DC, whether I agree with them or not. I’d like to see a heavily libertarian area get themselves a libertarian to represent them, and a far-left area be able to get an out-and-out socialist if they choose. There is a WIDE range of political opinion in this country, and I think that all of it being represented and debated in Congress would be a healthy thing. At least it would be REAL, not the kabuki dog-and-pony-show we have with the current establishment D’s and R’s.

  169. Christine herself pushed the meme that she is whackjob by lying about her credentials, filing frivolous lawsuits, equating masturbation with adultery, not holding a real job by being a perpetual office seeker.

    I don’t think American voters, in 2010, with the government robbing them blind in a rush to spend more and more and more and with a never-ending recession, give a tinker’s damn what Christine O’Donnell or any other candidate thinks about masturbation. This is another perfect example of the entrenched power in both parties and the media, throwing up a wall of chaff to distract us from “their” business.

    What these idiots ought to start figuring out is that the voters don’t care who they elect as long as they send a bum home. The voters of Delaware would vote for a ham sandwich over Mike Castle this week. The Mike Castles of the world better start paying attention because it is pretty clear that the voters have not intention of putting down their baseball bats. You would have thought that a Repubican winning Ted Kennedy’s seat would have been enough of a message. Or Charlie Crist getting clobbered in Florida. Or Arlen Spector in PA. Or Bennett in Utah. But, I guess you have to keep pounding these idiots in the head. They seems to be slow learners.

  170. Waaaah! The Democrats may hold on to the Senate seat in Delaware! The message was sent to both parties last night with O’Donnell’s win. They do need to be very afraid because this is an election year like no other. Unpredictable, to say the least.

    confloyd, here’s a link from politico about O’Donnelle. Wow, they sure have the goods on her! Not! There’s also a video of her on there in which she talks about masturbation. Big DEAL! It’s not like she is advocating to make it illegal! 🙂

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42209.html

  171. #
    Kay
    September 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Goodness, America is totally amazing! Where else in the world can a political party undergo wrenching change – from the bottom – in full and public view. The Tea Party is doing the GOP an immense favor – forcing it to renew itself. The Democrats – well! They risk being on the wrong side of history. Last night and the public reactions to the ‘establishment’ responses may well be Malcolm Gladwell’s tipping point. I cannot think of a single other society in the world that could pull this off without being co-opted into tyranny. I am British and Canadian and I’m jealous!
    ———-
    I love your perspective…it makes me stand back and gives me hope.

    I would love to think the voters are taking their pitchforks to the voting booth, then we only have to worry about if the actual votes are counted correctly or a sham like the DNC did to the 2008 primary.
    Tick off American voters and you get the horn.
    That’s the way it should be, and seeing the Tea Party people are also taking their pitchforks to the Rethug party makes me happy.
    On one side gutting their party are Tea Party folks, on the other side are Hillary voters cleaning house.

  172. If I has just watched the Sarah Palin backed tea party candidate clobber Mike “I’ve been in Washington since before you were born” Castle, I’m sure why they should be all that confident that she won’t clobber them in November. I know this comes as a big surprise to many, but the American people are trying to send a message that they don’t want more of the same…

  173. hwc
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    ———————————

    About Charlie Crist, he was holding a small 2 point lead in Florida just recently. Now he is behind by double digits, all in a very short period of time. The media toys with the public. I don’t believe most of the media anymore. They drive the meme, and when their efforts fail, people like Christine O’Donnell win in the primaries. Kudos to her.

  174. DefiantOne
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
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    That’s your opinion about Reagan. Seems I just read the same thing yesterday about Ronald Reagan. RINO, not!

  175. “About Charlie Crist, he was holding a small 2 point lead in Florida just recently. Now he is behind by double digits, all in a very short period of time.”

    Coons is ahead by 30 points. At the Crist rate, he should be ahead by 15 points come election day. Especially since Delaware is a purple state like Florida, and O’Donnell is a well-like, prepared, serious candidate like Rubio.

    Yes, yes, it’s all good. O’Donnell’s going to win. Mmm hmmm. Yup.

  176. Hmmmm. Christine O’Donnell indicated in the video on the Politico link I posted above, that she was ahead of her Democratic opponent in the polls UNTIL the Republican party leadership decided to attack her.

  177. nobama, Looks like they were feeding her stupid questions that they could bend her answers they way they wanted.

    Is she a Catholic?

    Well she said a lot of things in the 90’s, well that was a long time ago.

  178. She was ahead in the polls until voters found out who she was. She will fall ever farther in the polls are more voters found out who she is, which is the female Obama: not ready for prime time.

  179. Looks like Kelly Ayotte is on the verge of winnning in NH, Lamontagne’s strongest county has completed and she has a 1500 vote lead, all other counties have Ayotte ahead.

  180. confloyd
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
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    Exactly, Confloyd, and look at how young she looked in that portion of the video.

    I suspect that she is not Catholic. The video would lead me to believe that she is born again in religious orientation.

    The media, and Christine’s opponents are taking what looks to be minor things, and trying to get something to stick to make her a definite loss for the Republicans.

  181. Isn’t it real darn funny that so much is being said about ODonnell’s character by the assWhipes that claim to be staunch Rethugs, that are dissing women like Sarah, screwing around on their wives, closet gays that preach against gay rights in their churches.

    Yikes, what a joke.

    These Rethugs are such hypocrites.

  182. DefiantOne
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    I most certainly know what it means, and your comment here is an example of it.

    Intimidate you? How immature.

  183. Have you all seen the new DNC website

    They have changed the symbol to a D in the middle of a big O. What a disgrace. Their new slogan is !Change that matter” How bloody weak is that.

    They have handed the whole Dem brand over to Obama, I’m furious.

    Who ever by the way designed that website, it looks like a kindergarten knock up.

    http://www.democrats.org/

  184. moononpluto
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    =================================

    When I first read your comment, before I went to the link, I was expecting the red, white, and blue obama logo as part of the new DNC logo. No worries with the new logo, though. It looks more like a target! We’ve got them in our sights! 🙂

  185. CONCORD, N.H. — New Hampshire has certified former state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte (AY’-aht) as the winner of the Republican primary for U.S. Senate.

    Ayotte was endorsed by former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and won a narrow victory over Ovide Lamontagne (LAH’-mohn-tayn). His conservative credentials and courting of the tea party pulled him close in the final days of the campaign.

    Lamontagne has until 5 p.m. to decide whether he’ll seek a recount because the margin of victory fell within 1.5 percent of the total votes cast.

    The secretary of state’s office says Ayotte’s official margin of victory was 1,667 votes.

  186. moononpluto
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Have you all seen the new DNC website

    They have changed the symbol to a D in the middle of a big O. What a disgrace. Their new slogan is !Change that matter” How bloody weak is that.

    ———–

    The basement boyz had better quit smoking the crack pipe and get to work. This site is built for idiots.

    Maybe the ‘D’ inside the “O’ is more like Democrats are big fat zeros!! 😉

  187. Moon, that is the new emblem….looks like a brand we put on cattle….a big zero with a D in the middle of it…looks like Obama spent time figuring out this new brand while Hillary was doing all the work.

  188. People can criticize Christine O’Donnell like she some kind of menace, while the real menaces are Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Grayson, and the myriad of others who are “respectable” members of Congress. Let’s keep voting this type of “respectable” to office while we already know what that has gotten us. How serious are any of you about change if that is what your plans are?

  189. It’s official: Several O’Donnell bashers AND the Democratic party (what an utterly ridiculus new logo) have jumped the shark.

  190. Well, I haven’t posted after 2008 election. I still check this blog on a daily basis though.

    This Tea Party really got me fired up again. I applaud the Republicans are cleaning up their house. I am from New York, I am very happy to see Lazio was dumped ruthlessly. It’s time for party bosses and their puppies to go!

    I wish Christine O’Donnell win in Nov. I find myself agreeing with Palin more and more. This November I will be voting top to bottom Republican again.

  191. I may agree somewhat about comparing O’Donnell with Hillary and Palin, but I really take issue with Palin being lumped with Hillary in the first place. Maybe with experience and 10 years behind her I might see Palin as being the same calibre as Hillary (probably not but you never know), but at the moment I once again see a case of apples and oranges.

  192. lindax
    September 15th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
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    It’s what I’ll be doing.

    I am in protest mode yet. I may end up voting for someone that I could conceivably regret voting for after the fact, but that goes for any election in which I have ever voted. I voted for Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and John Kerry, and in retrospect, they were all bad votes. But since I believe that the political landscape needs a big shake up, and shake out, I’ll be voting against the party in control, and right now that is the Demorat party. This doesn’t mean that I am enamored with the Republican party, but I’ll admit that I am much more receptive to what they have to say, and I may some day drop my democrat party affiliation and join the Republican party, or move to a unaffiliated status. Democrats have held me in line for most of my life, from 1980 right up through 2006, and as Reagan once said, “I didn’t leave the Democratic party. The Democratic party left me.” That’s exactly how I feel today. Back in 1980, I thought of Reagan Democrats as traitors, but I don’t feel that way about myself because my feelings about the Demorat party are derived from the corruption within the party, and from the usurpation of the party by obama demon spawn. The economy is a close second to this, which is why many Reagan Democrats voted against Jimmy Carter. I now see the wisdom in their choice. There are consequences for actions taken, and the Demorats will know that come 2010 and beyond as I am not the only Democrat to feel this way.

  193. Pelosi and Reid are indeed menaces. Which is why it is insane to give them an automatic vote by handing them a Senate seat and further control of the Senate and its agenda and committees by nominating Christine O’Donnell, who will lose to the Obamacrat.

    Christine’s nomination is a hinderance to change. More importantly, she lacks character and experience. In that respect, I’m not so sure she won’t get along well with Obamacrats herself.

  194. Confloyd “a big zero with a D in the middle of it”

    O.D. for Obama! YES WE CAN!

    We too are O.D.’d with Obama.

    +++++++

    Wonder what (and who) they paid for this brilliant graphic…

  195. Admin – psurely there must be a correlation with the “New” DNC O.D. Logo and too much Kool Aid. Would love to hear your take on the matter! 😉

  196. DefiantOne
    September 15th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    ======================================

    I am not saying you are incorrect about her chances, but I am saying you are wrong about giving her a chance.

    I posted something above that is an answer to the concern about taking a stand against voting for someone who is with you maybe 50% of the time, and how the election of that particular politician results in him having much more sway than warranted by his overall support. It’s the way that I view Mike Castle. He may have been with Republicans on some issues, but the most important to me showed him to be an obama boot licker. Christine O’Donnell’s election tells the Republican party that its members will not stand for voting for someone that does not represent their interests in order to have a politician with the letter R after his name obtain office. It’s about time that both political parties pay attention to their membership. The establishment is too entrenched, and that’s why we end up with the mess that we have. They are not for the people, but for the special interests My only wish is that the Democrat party will follow suit with throwing the bums out.

  197. @Kay:”Last night and the public reactions to the ‘establishment’ responses may well be Malcolm Gladwell’s tipping point. I cannot think of a single other society in the world that could pull this off without being co-opted into tyranny. I am British and Canadian and I’m jealous!”
    ————————-

    I can give you at least one other instance in recent history where the public rose against the establishment and voted out a head of state by democratic means. Indira Gandhi was soundly voted out after she instituted emergency rule in a power grab and the whole nation reacted in dismay and protest at first but decisively later in the voting booths when she relented and called for elections — 1970s India.

    I agree if the two parties here relent and change their ways in response to tea party people, that will be big. I would also like to see the 4-year presidential term amended. If there is no confidence (like in the parliamentary systems), the president should be voted out before his term ends. But that is too much of a stress for the American democracy.

  198. Wow, my response to JanH disappeared completely. I wonder what happened as it does not show up in moderation either?

  199. moononpluto
    September 15th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    Have you all seen the new DNC website

    They have changed the symbol to a D in the middle of a big O.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    So they are admitting that it IS possible to OD on HOPIUM???

  200. OD: Notice the Big “O” swallaws a smaller “D”.

    Wow, truly a historic moment there, Mr. Kaine.

    I’ve been holding my breath for what seems like seconds.

  201. JanH,
    The things that lumps Palin with Hillary is “testicular fortitude”, common sense and the extreme love of her country….nothing else. You can’t compare the experience at all.

  202. confloyd
    September 15th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    =============================

    What does that mean exactly? You are a registered Tea Party member? Your voter registration now reads “Tea Party”?

  203. Interesting stas on Sarah:

    Palin has made 43 endorsements, 23 women, 20 men so that is just about even with a slight edge to endorsing women. She’s had 25 wins, 11 primary losses so far. Considering how many of those wins were people who were not front runnners or complete longshots, that’s amazingly good.

    But she’s a stupid bimbo, right?

  204. That new emblem is well “fitting”. I think the emblem looks like a brand we burn in cattle’s hide. Cattle are kind of mindless animals that just follow the leader. Well, I think the “KoolAide” drinkers are just about like cattle following the leader BO. So when you become an Obama Democrat, you are branded like cattle. You must do what he says or he won’t feed you or take care of you….

    THe emblem fits!

  205. “I posted something above that is an answer to the concern about taking a stand against voting for someone who is with you maybe 50% of the time”

    That’s cute, but now is not the time for symbolic stands. Now is the time to stop Obama and boot Obamacrats. They must be stopped. Period.

    O’Donnell’s nomination does the opposite, as it elects an Obamacrat. Castle may have been with Obamacrats 50% of the time, but coons IS an Obamacrat. That is not disputable. Castle voted against Obamacare. Coons will be an automatic vote for Obama’s agenda. This is simple fact.

    Coons’s now guaranteed win means that Obamacrats will retain control of the chamber, control of committees, control of its power, and control of its agenda. The choice and consequences were obvious. The tea arty made a mistake.

  206. I am also concerned that the Tea Party cannot manage to find reasonable, principled candidates who fit their mold, and by their proclivity for nominating shady characters who are a few bricks short of a full load and opposing perfectly fine candidates like Ayotte in NH and Tarkanian in Nevada. Castle may have been too far left for them, but they have no excuse for nominating Angle over Lowden and Tark. Was there not one qualified, non-batty conservative in the entire state?

  207. Let’s not forget that other “sure bets”, like Martha Coakley cruising to victory to keep Kennedy’s seat, don’t always pan out at the end of the race the way the odds makers thought before the race started.

  208. basil, I am laughin my ass off – YES, that was the big announcement. Our country is going down the tubes economically, and the “big exciting deal” that the Dims come up with is……

    a great new economic plan? Nope.

    a major piece of legislation to fix some of the country’s problems? Nope.

    a solid foreign policy initiative to solve some international crisis, like Iran? Nope.

    It’s a shiny new marketing logo. ROTFLMAO! Good Lord, if that isn’t the cluelessness of the current Dims in a nutshell, right there. Screw solving the problems, we just need to stroke the messaging better. Fucking idiots living in lala land.

  209. Castle is a Obamacrat, imo. Second, its difficult to understand exactly what happened in New Hampshire. Sara Palin, a tea party favorite, supported Ayotte, and Ayotte eked out a win. The Tea Party in New Hampshire supported Lamontagne. Is it not possible that both candidates were not that far apart? Could it be that you don’t have to pass a litmus test to be considered for the support of some big name tea party types? As for shady characters, the congress is full of them. It’s not like the tea party has some kind of lock on “shady”.

  210. Once again, Castle voted against Obamacare. Coons would have voted for it. Coons will now be their Senator. I prefer the former.

    It may be hard for you to understand what happened in New Hampshire, but is not at all difficult for me to understand what happened in New Hampshire. The Tea Party opposed a candidate in Ayotte for no good reason, and almost caused the loss of another seat. In that instance, thank goodness Palin kept her marbles although I’m almost positive that had Ayotte not been female Palin would have lost it as she did in Delaware and caused another major mistake.

    If it was the Tea Party’s intention to send more shady wackos to Congress, they are certainly trying hard, although in Delaware they will fail.

  211. confloyd
    September 15th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    JanH,
    The things that lumps Palin with Hillary is “testicular fortitude”, common sense and the extreme love of her country….nothing else. You can’t compare the experience at all.
    —————–
    I don’t think you can compare that either. Hillary has dealt with “testicular fortitude” for much longer than Palin. And I think common sense and experience go hand in hand.

    I’m just saying that I don’t see Palin as a potential potus or even a vice potus for years to come.jmo

  212. I’ve rethought the new Dem logo, it was so easy to take the piss out of, and oh DU is having a major shit fit over there about it, calling for Kaines head.

    CHANGE IN TATTERS

    pass it on, lol.

    Politico says the new symbol is subconciously grading itself, a big fat D.

    Its falling apart already, people are taking the absolute piss out of the new website and logo and slogan.

    and claims of plagurism already, funny wasnt Obama hanging round ohio pizza joints http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/09/democratic-party-steals-logo-from-the-pizza-place-where-i-used-to-work/63020/

    heres some prize comments :

    All they’re missing is the “H” as DO’H!

    LOL-THAT looks like a hockey sweater.

    Looks like a bulls eye to aim at

    I think I saw it on some kid’s skateboard shoes.

    I’m, waiting to see this logo on a T-Shirt that says “We payed 13 trillion dollars and all we have to show for it is this lousy T-Shirt”.

    Its look like a dumb ass landing pad

    Looks like Dems drew a target on themselves…. LOL… Who is the creative genius who came up with this stupid look?

    Is this a Tube Stop on the Underground in London?

    Good Lord, they’ve come up with a new slogan! They’ve outsmarted us! We’re doomed, I tell ya’, doomed!

    “Change the subject, and Hope no one remembers.”

    They actually used the word “Change”? Wouldn’t you think it would be run, don’t walk from that word as though it were a pitbull on crack?

  213. Best one yet

    An elevator button is a major announcement? Hokay, someone’s got a good

    it so is an elevator button for going down.

  214. The Tea Party as I understand it is a loose confederation of local chapters and the people are (relative) political neophytes. In those circumstances supporting the occasional oddball candidate is surely inevitable. Presumably, if it continues, their record will ‘improve’.

    pm317
    On Indira Gandhi I agree. Another example is Thatcher and the poll tax that brought her down. But what we are seeing in the US is not an overreach by an otherwise revered leader that raises a violent reaction but an organizational transformation of a deeply entrenched culture and the related cultural – social battle between competing ideologies. All done in the full glare ‘the cameras’. I find that astounding and very ‘American’. Rather than a sign of the country not being ‘governable’ it seems true to the inherent flexibility of America society.

  215. Karl Rove had a little melt down about O’Donnell winning the primary. So the DNC comes out with a new logo today…big O with a little D. Looks to me like it’s secret code for O’Donnell. 🙂

  216. We’ve written before that if Deval Patrick loses in Massachusetts then Hillary resigns, John Kerry will be very sad because he will not be named Secretary of State (it would mean Kerry’s replacement to the senate would be made by a Republican). It’s not surprising that this story comes out today if they want Hillary out early:

    http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/09/15/kerry-in-line-to-replace-clinton-at-state

    Word on Capitol Hill is that Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee with a well-worn passport to the world’s hot spots, is in the mix to replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who’s been hinting of an exit before the end of President Obama’s first term. Kerry, as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has acted as an emissary for Obama. Should he leave, Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, in a bitter reelection fight, would be in line to chair the committee. If he loses, it might fall to New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez, whose goal is the fall of Cuba’s Castro regime, a policy Obama doesn’t seem to back.

  217. MoonOnPluto, we added our bit of derision in today’s article to the Hopium OD clinic. As you note, we are not alone in laughing at this boobery.

  218. Remember when the “creative class” argued that if health care was an issue in the elections it would be good because only “Blue dogs” would be removed from office?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42191.html

    Michigan Democrats are expressing concern about the political security of Rep. John D. Dingell, who has been elected to the House a record 28 times since first winning office in a 1955 special election.

    Dingell’s reelection campaign was the focus of discussion at a regular meeting of the top aides to members of the Michigan Democratic delegation last week.

  219. I am also concerned that the Tea Party cannot manage to find reasonable, principled candidates who fit their mold, and by their proclivity for nominating shady characters who are a few bricks short of a full load and opposing perfectly fine candidates like Ayotte in NH and Tarkanian in Nevada. Castle may have been too far left for them, but they have no excuse for nominating Angle over Lowden and Tark. Was there not one qualified, non-batty conservative in the entire state?
    —————————————————
    I guess I have a little different take on the matter. I do not look at the tea party movement as a political party. If I did then I would agree with your comments.

    Instead, I see them as a pressure group, which seeks to restore a sense of the old republic. And by that I mean a system where the people are in charge, the constitution means something, and all boats rise with the tide. They are a legitimate reaction to what has occurred in the last twenty years.

    The Harvard trained elites have in their infinite wisdom managed to squander the economic advantage which the US had at the end of world war II. Our dollar has been split seven times since 1965. As a nation we are in trouble, but the elites are doing just fine thank you. The world may be their oyster but it is not ours. Obama epitomizes all that is wrong.

    But it is not entirely their fault either. The computer has produced megapolitical change here and across the world. My eye doctor just returned from Borneo where he went to study the great apes. He mentioned that the baboons have the same genetics as humans except for one chromosome. Too bad for the baboons. He went into the interior to help people with their eye problems and found that everyone has a cellphone. Dr. Livingston I presume? No but I can reach him on my cell phone.

    In this country those economic forces have eliminated millions of blue collar pink collar and white collar jobs. At the same time we have lost control of our borders. And we now have a president who is a shill for the banks, a bon vivante with has no empathy for the people of this country. Literally speaking he fiddles while Rome burns. The big media elites fiddle right along with him.

    Tea parties are a grass roots reaction to the slow certain loss of our country by people who want to do something about it. The republican establishment was all in favor of them when they opposed Obama, but now that they are taking on the establishment as well they panic. If nature runs its course, they will change the tea parties and the tea parties will change the republican party for the better.

    What happens to the democratic party however is less certain. There is no grass roots push back against Obama except in isolated pockets like here. They have become docile sheep and Obama will lead them to a slaughter, and they will say fine it was for a worthy cause. But that is a bigger problem for them than the tea parties are for the republicans.

    If the parties do not change then they will fracture–both of them and permanently. In that case, the political interests may well regroup along economic lines. One possible configuration could be a conservative party, an entitlement party, and an international party run by the elites.

  220. In reference to: DefiantOne
    September 15th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    “some Big Pinkers, do not comprehend in regard to O’Donnel being trounced in the general? This is the same thing they did to Sarah and Hillary”

    Um…comparing O’Donnell to Sarah Palin or Hillary is like comparing a county commissioner to Lincoln.
    _____________________________________________________________

    No where in this statement was there a comparison of O’Donnell TO Hillary; it was a comparison to how Hillary and Sarah were TREATED.
    _______________________________________________________________

    Do I need to send you a condom, DefiantOne?

  221. O’Donnell will lose it is only a matter of by how much. Again I like and respect Sarah but to me its feels as if the she and Demint got together and decided to force a far right conservative on Delaware. If they wanted to take Castle out, they should have recruited a top tier MODERATE Republican who fits this state socially as well as economically.

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