Breaking News: Emergency Labor Day Weekend Warning Issued

Please take this warning seriously, we beseech you. Whatever you do this Labor Day end-of-Summer weekend: Do Not Go On Vacation! Repeat: Do Not Go On Vacation!

Hurricane Earl is on patrol on the east coast and there are myriad potential disasters on the nation’s highways and by-ways. But ignore all that. Earl is a blowhard and disasters strike Americans with regularity now that we are in the golden age of Mess-iah.

The warning we issue today is much more serious than all that weather excitement on TV. The bottom line is that vacations are a grand deception, a flim-flammery of epic degree and proportions which we will expose. Be warned.

Vacations are advertised as a recreational way to unwind and de-stress from work day pressures. The ‘unwind and de-stress’ vacation propaganda, we are assured, leads to greater productivity when we return to work. After vacations we are supposed to be better able to handle pressure and make better decisions at the workplace. But this is all a lie. A big lie. Vacations are a conspiracy.

The best example of the perniciousness of vacations is Barack Obama. Having vacationed diligently and consistently (Obama plans his next vacation when he’s on his latest vacation) Barack Obama is about to take another vacation. Vacation leads to the need for another vacation. Tonight as he vacations in Camp David Barack Obama and lantern jawed Michelle will scowl themselves through brochures of other vacation sites at taxpayer expense.

Vacations are a trap. Do not vacation. You will only want another vacation. That is the lesson from the Obama way.

Update I: Travel agents and tourist bureaus are angry with our Emergency Warning. They inform us that Obama desperately requires repeated infusions of vacations. After all, he did have to approve all those blueprints and plans (as well as the schedule) for the expensive White House redecoration.

Update II: Resort owners are angry with our Emergency Warning. They point out that Barack Obama desperately requires repeated infusions of vacations. They note that Obama gave that spirited and energy consuming national address this past week (either on Iraq or the economy) which enervated him (especially as ungrateful Americans did not appreciate the effort and flung dead cats over the White House fence). ‘Blame the voters, not the Boob.”

The resort owners also cite this mornings Herculean effort by Obama to tout “Recovery Summer”.

“Flanked by members of his economic team – including outgoing Council of Economic Advisers Dr. Christina Romer, whose replacement has yet to be named – President Obama chose to look at the silver lining in the economic clouds of today’s jobs report – not even mentioning that August saw a net job loss of 54,000 jobs.[snip]

Asked to what degree he regrets his administration’s decision to call this Recovery Summer, the president stammered then said, “I don’t regret the notion that we are moving forward, but because of the steps that we’ve taken. And I’m going to have a press conference next week, where, after you guys are able to hear where we’re at, we’ll be able to answer some specific questions.”

It was a morning effort worthy of a vacation to plan another vacation and a much needed “recovery vacation” for such a productive and impressive “recovery summer”.

The resort owners also declared that after that end of Ramadan press conference next Friday, September 10, Barack Obama will surely need another vacation. Perhaps, that long delayed Indonesia vacation to relive his preteen years will soon be announced and taxpayers (employed or not) will joyously cough up the cash for that sure to be hailed as “unprecedented” outreach extravaganza (after all there is so much for taxpayers to be thankful for in this golden age of Mess-iah).

Update III: Brothel owners are furious and have let us know it. “A man needs regular infusions of vacations” they said.

Update IV
: Howard Stern ignored the vacation warning but after sending us repeated “Howard Stern, Howard Stern, Howard Stern rules” emails Howard made a lackluster defense of Mess-iah:

“The shock jock weighed in on President Barack Obama’s fortunes — or misfortunes — on his Wednesday radio program, saying that he thinks a second term for Obama is unlikely, according to a rough summary provided by MarksFriggin.com, which summarizes every Stern show on Sirius-XM Radio.

He said [Obama] can’t win with anyone. Howard said the guy came into office with two wars going on and major economic issues. [Stern] said you can’t just end a war immediately.”[snip]

Stern’s sidekick, Robin Quivers, chimed in as well, saying that Obama is a victim of the kind of hype brought about by his “change” campaign. “She said it was a crazy thing to buy into in the first place. She said that people don’t want to make things better and deal with stuff. She said they just want it to change overnight. That just doesn’t happen,” the site noted. [snip]

(Stern even joked at one point that Tom Cruise has a better chance of getting things done than Obama.)”

Update V: Big Labor bosses threatened to kick our ass if we don’t let up on Obama and the “stimulus” of vacations.

They noted that they take plenty of vacations and their members love paying for those vacations. In addition we were told that we did not know what we were talking about. “How” they asked “can Obama not take a vacation when he sees ordinary citizens putting up their hard earned cash to oppose Obama and seek to replace him with someone who is experienced and willing to fight.”

“She has more experience working in and with the White House than most living presidents,” the text of the ad reads. “She is one of the most admired women in our nation’s history. Let’s make sure the president we should have elected in 2008 will be on the ballot in 2012.”

The conclusion of the ad comes with a slogan: “Hillary 2012: Hillary Clinton for President. Start now. Where there’s a Hill there’s a way.”



Update VI: Republicans fumed at our anti-Vacation warning. “The nation is safer when Obama is away” they noted. “How dare you issue a warning which threatens the well-being of the nation? they spewed.



With Republicans airing ads of Obama as Moby Dick and Obama Dimocrats as Ahab tied to the Leviathan of the deep, perhaps our warning is overwrought. Perhaps Obama does need to go away for as long as possible. It must be difficult going from “to know me is to love me” to “He is a walking radioactive disaster.”

Update VII: Emergency Warning rescinded. But we still say the Barack Obama presidency must be terminated – the sooner the better. Give Obama a permanent vacation and send Lady of Spain Michelle on a sleeveless tour at her own expense.

Happy Labor Day weekend everybody!

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213 thoughts on “Breaking News: Emergency Labor Day Weekend Warning Issued

  1. The wonderful Planks in Columbus got screwed too.

    NPR:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129611785

    Whatever happened to recovery summer?

    This was supposed to be the season the economy heated up, thanks to a wave of public works projects, funded by the government’s stimulus program. But summer is coming to an end, and the recovery has not taken root. Forecasters are expecting another gloomy employment report on Friday.

    And before long, stimulus dollars will be fading like autumn leaves.

    None of that is encouraging for President Obama, who launched the summer with a crew in hard hats in Columbus, Ohio, on June 18.

    “Today, I return to Columbus to mark a milestone on the road to recovery: the 10,000th project launched under the Recovery Act,” Obama said, announcing a $15 million effort to widen a roadway and add bike lanes.

    Recovery summer was partly designed to recover the reputation of the government’s $787 billion stimulus program. While many economists believe that program has worked to boost employment, the public is unimpressed. Advisers say by front-loading the stimulus with tax cuts and aid to states, they were able to get the money out quickly, but at the expense of visibility.

    “As happened with many decisions, pragmatism won out,” said outgoing White House economic adviser Christina Romer this week. “We agreed that many of the things that would improve the economy fastest were unglamorous measures … many of which don’t come with Recovery Act signs or easily identifiable links to the act. It has been hard for people to see what the act has done.”

    Road Projects Span The Horizon

    Recovery summer was supposed to change that as more federal dollars were poured into easily recognizable public works, including 15,000 road projects — enough to crisscross the country 10 times.

    “There’s so many going on you almost can’t take a drive this summer without seeing orange cones,” said John Horsley, executive director of the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials.

    All those federally funded road projects have kept an estimated 74,000 construction workers busy this summer. But that’s not enough to patch the country’s giant economic pothole. With housing in a deep slump, unemployment in construction still tops 17 percent.

    Obama joked back in June that the hungry road crews in Columbus would keep area restaurants busy. But it didn’t work out that way for a nearby pizzeria.

    “We’re third generation — started in 1939,” said John Plank of the restaurant he runs with his brother and sister.

    Plank said business has been slow this summer, in part because the road construction makes it hard for customers to reach his restaurant. He hoped to at least capitalize on the day of the president’s visit, but the expected crowds didn’t materialize.

    “I hate to say it, but it was our worst Friday we’ve had in 10 years,” Plank said. “I thought there were going to be all kinds of people down there, but I guess there were only 30 to 40 people, and they were all from Washington.

    Plank thinks pizza sales will pick up in the fall, especially if the Ohio State Buckeyes have a good football season. But not everyone is so patient.

    Sharp Decreases In Private-Sector Hiring

    Private-sector hiring dropped off sharply in the United States after the Greek debt crisis. And by mid-August, the president’s Gallup approval rating had fallen to a record low of 41 percent. It’s bounced back a bit since then, but congressional Democrats still face the prospect of big losses in November.

    “There are still 15 million people looking for jobs. There’s still a great deal of uncertainty,” said White House political adviser David Axelrod, when asked about the president’s shaky approval. “You know we have challenges we have to continue to fight through. It’s not going to be a straight line. It’s not going to be easy.”

    On Monday, Obama huddled with his economic advisers, looking for new ways the government could promote hiring. But as the president spoke to reporters in the Rose Garden afterward, even a balky White House audio system seemed to be working against him.

    “Let me try this one more time,” Obama said, tapping on his microphone.

    The president might not get many more tries at recovery. This is one summer Obama is probably happy to put behind him.

  2. Carry over:

    “Where I differ with Morris is in his attempted comparison of Obama to FDR. We were in a deep depression in 1932 with no end in sight. I have it on good authority from the people who lived through that period and were conservative republicans that if FDR had not done what he did we would have had a revolution. I swear to you that is what they said, and these were people who ran companies, not some scholar trying to make bones with Wall Street or some toe sucker trying to make a point. If you study the record, what you will find is that Obama is the antithesis of FDR. He is barking up the wrong tree with that analogy.”

    ******
    ” if FDR had not done what he did we would have had a revolution”….what these morons who are intent on removing the last legacy of FDR won’t acknowledge is that FDR saved American free market capitalism. The disaster of the “Great Depression” was primarily the culmination of Republican party policies from ~1874 to 1933. My mother graduated from boarding school at age 16 in 1930 and then went to work to help support her siblings. My parents were married in 1934, sister arrived in ’35 and my father has a job but the only thing that kept them afloat was my mother job at the WPA. In the depths of the depression, the likely result was a revolution resulting in totalitarianism of the “left” or the “right. People forget that the American Nazi Party held a meeting in Madison Square Garden.

    The cycle appears to be repeating with the thirty years plus of Reaganism coming to a crashing end. The Country’s opportunity to repeat 1933 was subverted by (fill in the blank) so it’s into uncharted political territory. I suspect this time around we will see a fundamentalist authoritarianism evolve as the dominate political force.

  3. ADMIN: Hilarious, I laughed and laughed and I really need to do just that…

    The pizza guy was totally hilarious, not for him, but for me…LOL! only 20 or 30 showed up for Obama’s speech…ROTFLMAO!!

    Very funny and true!

    Lets all HOPE he goes on a permanent vacation whereever they need another lazy, aristocrat that needs servants. This is the best way he can help the economy!

  4. wbboei,

    What’s a current short legal term for ‘Objection, Counselor, assumes facts not in evidence’? (Ie what used to be called ‘begging the question’.)

  5. Oh, and thank you Adm. for another great Stones song(waiting for late 2011 tour to start culminating in performance at London Olympics per my sources).

  6. I just don’t see how the polls are correct. Although they are Fox Polls…Oh I hope not. People just can’t be this stupid.

  7. SHV, A very interesting post…I did not know that!
    *******
    “Arguably, the zenith of the Bund’s history occurred on President’s Day, February 20, 1939 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Some 20,000 people attended and heard Kuhn criticize President Franklin D. Roosevelt by repeatedly referring to him as “Frank D. Rosenfeld”, calling his New Deal the “Jew Deal”, and stating his belief of Bolshevik-Jewish American leadership.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund

    Post WW I instability in Europe also crossed the Atlantic and during the 20’s early 30’s with active Anarchist, Bolshevvik, Fascist and home grown groups such as KKK, (six million members, 1925)…similarities to today with massive redistribution of wealth to upper 1% followed by economic collapse.

  8. It is upsetting confloyd, but his recent vacation(s) and lack of any major blunders, have seemed to have prevented further erosion. Hopefully, Congressional dems will not benefit at the midterms.

  9. Picked up Ann Coulter’s Treason today when I was at the library.
    I disagree with the woman on lots of stuff but have always had to give her kudoos for wit and intelligence.
    Then she said she’d prefer Hill to McCain and I started paying more attention.
    I am only about 100 pages into Treason and most of it thus far is a defense of Mcarthyism. In high school I learned it was a dark time in american history. I saw the movies. I bought into it without question. I learned what little I knew about that era from hollywood films. I bought it all hook line and sinker, Just as at 19 I struggled through reading the times and the nation and believed the writers had integrity.

    Treason is biased and if you cannot endure Bill bashing do not read. But the book is chalk full of the times repeatedly defending individuals accused of crimes against the country and over and over again defending them. As I read I thought bullshit the paper could never be held in such esteem if this were the truth. So I did a little research. Shocking. You will be shocked if you look at the times defense for persons accused. Then read the first hundred pages of Treason and you will hear read the same defenses being used by the far left over and over again.
    Treason was written in 2003 and she identifies liberal rebuffs to a tee. I had my reservations so I spent several hours validating the quotes. Coulter did not misquote or take out of context. She gave the real deal on the times in the forties.
    The scary thing is that every defense written by the times then to defend the indefensible is now reiterated almost verbatim.
    Not saying Mccarthy wasn’t wrong, what I now am curious to explore is that he was demonized by the press. I was born in 67 I thought that Sen McCarthy held the House Unamerican activity committee hearings. Never occured to me that he wasn’t in the house.

  10. Coulter is an interesting character…I think she is more form over substance, and her constant Bill/Hillary bashing sickens me. However, on some issues, she is dead on.

  11. jbstonesfan
    I thought she was a very bright woman taking advantage of political situations. Making a buck as it were.
    I got a kick out of her. Smart funny articulate.
    I had odd work hours for awhile and ended up watching her on red eye. I’d say if I met her at a party I would not like her, but damn I do admire the way her brain works. Again I am only one hundred pages into Treason, but I have looked up her sources and tried to understand that period in American history.

    All I can say is that I am shocked and appalled by what I learned and what maybe the truth. And then the similarities of the harvard educated elite protectingthen as well as now.

    She wrote Treason in 2003. You can find a similar quote from the ny times with regards to the mosque at ground zero as they used for defense against for persons who were later convicted od espionage. And harvard is the theme.

  12. Is she backing down on her “Jerusalem belonging to Israel belief?” I hope not. Or is this just obama crap?

    ——————-

    Clinton sees Jerusalem’s future as symbol of peace

    (AFP) – 6 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Friday Israel and the Palestinians know they need to find a solution that turns Jerusalem into a “symbol of peace and cooperation” rather than a flashpoint.

    In an interview with Israeli and Palestinian television journalists a day after direct peace talks resumed, Clinton said both sides also know that the daily lives of Palestinians must improve more in order to boost the negotiations.

    When her Israeli interviewer asked whether Clinton still supported Jerusalem as Israel’s undivided capital, a point he recalled her making during her failed presidential campaign two years ago, she did not answer directly.

    “You should believe that I am committed to a safe and secure Israel and that I believe a two-state solution that realizes the aspirations of the Palestinian people is in the best interests of Israel,” the chief US diplomat said.

    “Jerusalem is a contested emotional issue for both Israelis and Palestinians,” Clinton told journalists from Israel’s Channel 2 and Palestine TV, who had been invited by Washington to conduct a joint interview.

    “I want to support what is the outcome that the parties can agree to,” she said at the State Department.

    “And I think both parties know that they’re going to have to engage on this issue and come to an understanding and a resolution so that Jerusalem becomes not a flashpoint but the symbol of peace and cooperation,” Clinton added.

    Israel claims Jerusalem, including the eastern mainly Arab part that was annexed after the 1967 war, as its eternal and undivided capital. The Palestinians claim the eastern part as the capital of a future state.

    Clinton and other US officials who hosted Thursday’s launch of the first direct peace talks in 20 months did not say whether Jerusalem was discussed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas.

    Both leaders have agreed to resume their talks in the Middle East in two weeks.

    In reply to a question from her Palestinian interviewer, Clinton said the United States saw the importance of Israel allowing greater Palestinian freedom of movement, including to sites of worship in Jerusalem.

    She said Tony Blair, the representative of the diplomatic Quartet on the Middle East, will work with both sides to “try to ease as many of those problems as possible while the negotiations are going.”

    Clinton added: “I think the political negotiations need to be matched with changes on the ground, confidence building measures and interactions between Israelis and Palestinians.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j_97hKtpn3YcBOEqDlaHlDTiYenQ

  13. Hillary for Texas and NoObama…re: Options for Florida Governor:

    Rick Scott and Alex Sink

    *****************************for people who actually live in the particular state****people who will suffer the consequences, the taxes, the fees, etc, etc, etc
    for ex, even with repubs running the show, the insurances, water, etc have gone one way…up, up, up…anyone who has wind insurance in florida knows exactly what i mean…

    sadly, there are no good choices…this is the whole problem we are faced with in many states…as I mentioned previously I do not trust Scott at all…or his running mate…I watched Scott on a local program here in Florida about a week ago and I will say it again…the man looks crazy…he has this frozen gaze in his eyes and rarely answers a question directly…that does not mean Sink is better…especially with her shadowing for O…

    …however, correct me if I am wrong, but the Florida STATE senate and congress are already run by the repubs…florida is a mess…as jbstonesfan would probably concur, the dems in broward and PB are under constant (FBI)scrutiny and frequently being indicted here…

    …but the idea of one party repub rule is equally frightening…the repubs are in with the corporations, insurance co, etc…and whether Scott is a crook or not, he did not become a billionare in the health field by playing boy scout…perhaps he did not get indicted by virtue of the fact that those at the top often just walk…I believe Scott did – referring to Scott’s former hospital chain- pay a $1.7 billion fine after a federal criminal investigation…hmmmm….

    frankly, it is a very tough dilemma…and pathetic that these are the best choices we have…as is the case with many other states…leaving the voter with the option of which is worse and/or should i even bother to vote at all…

    if i have to analyze the situation to the nth degree, then i prefer divided government in florida…and elsewhere, because as we can easily see on the national level…one party rule of either party is a recipe for more disaster and totalitarian rule…with even less input from the people…

    …the reality…reality and ramifications of it all…are disheartening to say the least…

  14. ABC’s Shipman Gushes Over Hillary the ‘Political Celebrity’

    By Matthew Balan
    09/03/2010

    ABC’s Claire Shipman waxed ecstatic over Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday’s Good Morning America, as she reported on Mrs. Clinton’s efforts in the Middle Eastern peace process. Shipman exclaimed how the Secretary had a “distinct, quite public moment of triumph” in her meetings with leaders from both sides, and noted how Clinton has become an “international political celebrity.”

    Anchor George Stephanopoulos, former communications director for President Bill Clinton, introduced the correspondent’s report, which aired 44 minutes into the 7 am Eastern hour. Stephanopoulos noted past administrations’ failure “to broker a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians” and then proclaimed how it was Mrs. Clinton’s “turn to try to make diplomatic history.” Shipman began by highlighting how Hillary “remains one of the most popular members of the administration” and how she was now “squarely center stage” with the possibility of bringing “something different to this Middle East process.”

    After using her “moment of triumph” line, the ABC correspondent emphasized how Secretary Clinton was apparently “hard on the trail of a dream that has eluded so many before her, and those who know her well say she brings a special touch to wooing both sides back to the table.” She also underlined Clinton’s reported modus operandi in the peace process: “It’s a trademark recipe of pragmatism and discipline over ego- no high-profile shuttle diplomacy for her, for example.”

    Shipman used three sound bites from the liberal Brooking Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon, and one from former Clinton administration official and current Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs P. J. Crowley, to heap praise on Mrs. Clinton. After O’Hanlon highlighted how the Secretary apparently “chose to really marshal her resources and guard them jealously, and wait for the right moment,” the correspondent added her own lauds: “The other asset she wields: a bit of female EQ, and an astute political instinct.”

    The high point of the gushing language over the senior diplomat came near the end of the report:

    SHIPMAN: It doesn’t hurt, of course, that over the years, she’s perfected her ability to shift gears in an instant. Hard-working Hillary, suddenly transforms once again into international political celebrity.

    O’HANLON: She’s a multi-dimensional public figure. She’s part global rock star, part everybody’s friend, because she goes by Hillary more than Secretary Clinton.

    Shipman even remarked about the Secretary’s new hairdo: “Her hair is even back in the headlines. She’s getting rave reviews on her longer, cool, new do.”

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/09/03/abcs-shipman-gushes-over-hillary-political-celebrity

  15. The most interesting thing about having read a hundred pages of Treason is that I realized I had demonized a politician. My education with regards to the red scare had come entirely from hollywood and I had never questioned it.
    I don’t know what the truth was from that time. I was not there. Ann Coulter’s defense of the Senator is the first I have ever encountered.
    I am very angry with the ny times and the nation and cnn. In a naive way I thought they told me the truth. I believed in them up until I witnessed them misreporting during the Clinton bambi primary time. I wish there was a way to sue them as a class action for violation of trust. Alas all we can do is keep repeating their lies and propoganda.

  16. that’s an interesing article, Jan, re Claire Shipman and the gushing over Hillary…

    …when I got home today, I turned on the TV and there was…of all people…ready for this…Chris Matthews endorsing Hillary for Secretary of Defense…because ‘she is the one to get the job done’

  17. I’m a little in shock that Obama’s numbers have improved. Of course, it’s the trend that matters, but I can not account for it. Admin, any thoughts?

  18. I have seen hundreds of union contracts in my time I kid you not. At most they called for six weeks of vacation after 30 years of service. Barack has negotiated a far better deal for himself with himself. Seven weeks of vacation after 18 months. Furthermore, he has managed to take them all during the qualifying period. This too is historic. And it deserves a Noblesse Oblige Prize for Chutzpah. Moreover, it may set a new pattern in collective bargaining. The new war cry will be if it is good enough for Barack then by god it is good enough for our members. The employers will be only too happy to hire more people. That will solve the unemployment problem, until those employers go belly up. Also, it will mean more dues, health and welfare contributions. Labor bosses will then say that under Barack life is good, as long as somebody else is willing to pay for his largesse–like China. Thereafter you are looking at a 12 letter word that rhymes with compression and starts with a ‘D”.

  19. MJ, it has not improved. With Rasmussen, today Bambi’s numbers were 44% approval and 55% disapproval.

    I trust Rasmussen more than Fox Polls.

  20. “Chris Matthews endorsing Hillary for Secretary of Defense…because ’she is the one to get the job done’”

    —————-

    LOL…I’m waiting for him to feel a tingle up his scrawny legs whenever he hears Hillary speak. 🙂

  21. Jan H
    I you can stomach it I’d say give Treason by Ann Coulter a read. In the first 100 pages you can find everything the far left wing has regurgitated via the press.

  22. moononpluto
    September 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
    MJ, it has not improved. With Rasmussen, today Bambi’s numbers were 44% approval and 55% disapproval.

    I trust Rasmussen more than Fox Polls.

    Oh, definately. I was just reacting to what jb said. Thanks for the info.

  23. Wow…6% of people actually like him

    Who’s the most unpopular person in politics? If you thought John Edwards, you *used* to be correct, but there’s a new champion: Levi Johnston.

    A new PPP poll shows that, while the former North Carolina senator held the initial record for unfavorability (72 percent in January) of any politician in their home state, Johnston has matched that among Alaskans, and gone a step further: his favorability rating in his home state is at a mere 6 percent.

    “Those poll numbers probably don’t bode too well for his Wasilla Mayoral candidacy,” the poll dryly opines. Just over 1300 likely Alaskan voters were called for the poll.

    “Johnston is reviled pretty universally across the board,” says PPP’s website. “But he’s a little more popular with Democrats (15/61) than he is with Republicans (4/76) or independents (4/74).”

  24. How can anyone now take PPP seriously when they polled on a politicians TAN???????? Read the last paragraph, are PPP on LSD when polling?

    Boehner in Ohio

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/boehner-in-ohio.html

    It’s looking more and more likely that John Boehner will become Speaker of the House but he’s pretty unknown in Ohio and the folks who do have an opinion about him lean negative.

    42% of Ohio voters say they don’t know enough about Boehner to rate him one way or the other. Among those who do 27% see him positively and 31% have an unfavorable view. Democrats (53%) dislike him more than Republicans (51%) like him and independents go against him by a 22/27 margin as well.

    Only 28% of voters in the state want Boehner to become Speaker of the House if Republicans get the majority this fall while 44% explicitly say they want someone else and 28% are unsure. Republicans do by a 54/15 margin want Boehner to ascend to the top spot but Democrats (73/6) and independents (41/22) are not swayed by home state pride and think the GOP should pick someone else if they get in control.

    On a less serious note Boehner’s overall poll numbers are at least running ahead of the poll numbers for his tan. Only 8% of voters in the state have a favorable opinion of Boehner’s tan while 27% view it unfavorably. Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike have a negative opinion of it, about the only thing they all agreed on in this poll. 30% of voters in the state think Boehner spends too much time on his tan, 14% think he spends about the right amount of time, and 4% say it’s not enough. Maybe his overall poll numbers on the home front will go up if he tones it down a little on the tanning.

  25. Carry over:

    “Where I differ with Morris is in his attempted comparison of Obama to FDR. We were in a deep depression in 1932 with no end in sight. I have it on good authority from the people who lived through that period and were conservative republicans that if FDR had not done what he did we would have had a revolution. I swear to you that is what they said, and these were people who ran companies, not some scholar trying to make bones with Wall Street or some toe sucker trying to make a point. If you study the record, what you will find is that Obama is the antithesis of FDR. He is barking up the wrong tree with that analogy.”

    ******
    ” if FDR had not done what he did we would have had a revolution”….what these morons who are intent on removing the last legacy of FDR won’t acknowledge is that FDR saved American free market capitalism. The disaster of the “Great Depression” was primarily the culmination of Republican party policies from ~1874 to 1933. My mother graduated from boarding school at age 16 in 1930 and then went to work to help support her siblings. My parents were married in 1934, sister arrived in ‘35 and my father has a job but the only thing that kept them afloat was my mother job at the WPA. In the depths of the depression, the likely result was a revolution resulting in totalitarianism of the “left” or the “right. People forget that the American Nazi Party held a meeting in Madison Square Garden.

    The cycle appears to be repeating with the thirty years plus of Reaganism coming to a crashing end. The Country’s opportunity to repeat 1933 was subverted by (fill in the blank) so it’s into uncharted political territory. I suspect this time around we will see a fundamentalist authoritarianism evolve as the dominate political force.
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Absolutely right. This is also where I part company with Beck as well. He had done a commendable job of blowing the whistle on Obama, and to that extent I find value in his work. But the problem is he does not stop there. Instead he does this flow chart of creeping progressivism. Through that portal he links Marx to FDR to Obama and whoever else is a anti Republican. Of course, he neglects to mention that there were Republican progressives too like Teddy Roosevelt and Robert La Follette as well. So the waters get very murky.

    Beck hails from Mount Vernon Washington, a place I know well. It is a rich farming community where they grow tulips and cash crops. Growing up there is like living in a Willa Cather novel. I doubt he has seen the inside of a tenement or can imagine what it was like to live in a place like the five points in old New York in the late 19th century where 10,000 people crowded together in squalid conditions, while the robber barons of built mansions in Newport, held gala balls and amassed fortunes so vast that the royal families of Europe married into them. He may not know that three years ago one prominent Wall Street trader received a bonus of 45 million dollars. I doubt he has read the jungle by Upton Sinclair which depicts conditions in the slaughter houses of Chicago at the turn of the century. Progressivism which we saw at the turn of the century, inspired by wonderful groups like the Salvation army was a rational response to those economic conditions. Far from defeating democracy it reinforced it, and the constitution as well. Obama is no progressive for godsake. He is a Wall Street shill. Beyond that he is a mixed race boy who was brought up in an island paradise by wealthy doting grandparents. He suffered from abandonment issues but was given every break in the book to compensate. He has ridden the race card to where he is and more is the pity for that. But in no way shape or form is he a progressive.

  26. henry
    September 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
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    Thanks for the info, Henry. I’ll take a look for her book in the bookstore this weekend.

  27. Barack Obama is locked in a lose-lose situation
    The president seems incapable of tackling either unemployment or the deficit, says Jeremy Warner.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/7980787/Barack-Obama-is-locked-in-a-lose-lose-situation.html

    Yet on the most important issue facing ordinary Americans – the economy – Mr Obama is shaping up to be one almighty let down. As mid-term elections loom, there is visible panic among Democrats at the administration’s failure to get to grips with deep-seated economic problems.

    snip ………….

    There is no such vision on the horizon. Joblessness remains stubbornly high and, far from becoming self-sustaining, the recovery shows signs of stalling. In short, Mr Obama’s economic policies have failed, or at least that is the growing public perception.

    For me, it is still too early to make that judgment; as it happens there was modest encouragement from yesterday’s US employment data. But many investors have made up their minds. Rightly or wrongly, yields on Treasury bonds are at levels that discount a depression.

    Rarely have Americans felt so down in the dumps; collectively, they seem to have lost their innate sense of self-belief and optimism. Not since the 1930s has the American dream looked so forlorn. What’s gone wrong, and why has the patient proved so unwilling to respond to the extraordinary fiscal and monetary medicine applied?

    snip………….

    Whatever his other achievements, Mr Obama will go down in history as the worst president since Jimmy Carter if he cannot make headway on either of these issues. It’s hard to be optimistic. Mr Obama looks like a beached whale. As Tony Blair observes in his new autobiography, there is nothing quite so painful as high expectations dashed by harsh political and economic realities.

  28. JanH-the Muslims/Arabs have no claim to Jerusalem. While you know I love Hillary, that kind of language is truly disappointing. Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Jewish people and MUST remain so. The Arabs can stay in East Jerusalem, but never a divided capital( recall when they had control of Jerusalem they allowd goats and cattle to lay their waste at the Western Wall, whereas Israel permits safe ingress and egress to Arabs/Muslims to the Al Aqsa Mosque despite it being built on our Temple mount/see also planned Mosque near 9/11 ). Netanyahu is acting very weak imo. Please see the article below by the great Carolione Glick :

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=186910

  29. This is also the problem we have with geeks like Chris Bower, David Sirotta and the children at Daily Kos. They are not what they pretend to be. They are not bona fide liberals. They are poseurs. What they want is fame money and access to the elites. They gave up their values when they stuck with Obama. Some day they will wake up and it will be like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3mujuZbO5o

  30. The video of Legs O’Tingles salvation plan for the savior:

    CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Let me finish with tonight with a plan to strengthen America’s ability to solve its problems. It’s tough and it’s water tight. President Obama has many strengths as this country’s head of state. He’s clear minded, gifted in intellect, artful in presenting issues and his vision of leadership. However, these past two years have been a shakedown cruise. We have seen the weaknesses in this ship of state. It’s come time to shake up.

    This president needs to put a firm Democratic brand on his defense policy. He was smart to keep Robert Gates in the Pentagon, but Gates is a holdover from the Bush era. There’s no real connection between what the country voted for in 2008 and what we’re getting in terms of security policy. Obama needs to bridge that gap, and he needs to pick a Democratic ally as defense chief. That Democratic ally is Hillary Clinton. With her at the Pentagon, he would forge confidence in Middle East policy. Friends of Israel would know we have someone in charge of America’s military forces who has an instinctive concern for the Jewish state. A proven track record of support, it will help get the deal cooked over there and getting that deal is the very stuff of American greatness.

    Now to the tough one, the economy. There’s one person in this country with a track record, the communications pizzazz to help make, carry out and market the historic recovery program still needed. His name is Michael Bloomberg. Look, you can say this is outlandish that he would never take the job at Treasury or as White House chief of staff, but there is a precedent. James Baker. He made Reagan a success and Barack Obama needs a Jim Baker, someone to focus the energies of this administration on economic reconstruction, period. Someone to lay down the same strong chain of command on domestic policy that Hillary Clinton will define on the national security front. This is the answer. Enough of the solo act. President Obama needs to build a team, a phalanx, a political policy power that takes his idealism and makes it deliver in strength abroad, jobs and renewed economic confidence at home.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/09/03/matthews-obama-should-replace-rahm-emanuel-bloomberg-gates-hillary#ixzz0yWYKqgJm

  31. Yeah, sure, saddle Hillary with Obama’s afghanistan. I don’t think so. I love how C Matthews thinks Hillary is the perfect candidate for any job save the presidency.

  32. BloomBerg at the treasury, may as well give the keys to the Saudi’s.

    What’s Matthews smoking????

    and no, Hillary does not want to go to the Pentagon, its a sideliner to keep her out the WH and out of the Chain of Succession.

  33. “Not saying Mccarthy wasn’t wrong, what I now am curious to explore is that he was demonized by the press.”

    Truman was much harsher on Communists than McCarthy. McCarthy was hunting for Soviet spies, Truman jailed people just for being party members (see Dennis v. U.S.). Super-prominent liberals Robert Jackson and Felix Frankfurter–a founder of ACLU–backed up Truman on the Supreme Court.

    McCarthy got tagged, but history shows Repubs had nothing on Democrats in the Red Scare. Those old Liberals were brutal in war-time, rounding up Japanese-Americans, using nuclear weapons, stomping on domestic Reds.

  34. guess Matthews has grown accustomed to Hillary’s face…he has grown accustomed to her cackle…

    youtube.com/watch?v=KQa1-DqOkQk Michael Crawford – ‘I’ve grown accustomed to her’
    face…with Julie Andrews…

    she gives me tingles…

  35. Here’s the current line of succession according to Wikipedia. SOS is 4 and Sec of Defense is 6.

    1 Vice President Joe Biden
    2 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
    3 President pro tempore of the Senate Daniel Inouye
    4 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
    5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
    6 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates[2]
    7 Attorney General Eric Holder
    8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
    9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
    10 Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
    11 Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
    12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
    13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
    14 Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
    15 Secretary of Energy Steven Chu
    16 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
    17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
    18 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

  36. Maybe they need to clone Hillary. All of a sudden it seems as if she is wanted for every position in the White House. Damn it all, give her the position that is rightfully hers already…that of the real potus.

  37. McCarthy was hunting for Soviet spies, Truman jailed people just for being party members (see Dennis v. U.S.).

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    There’s a big difference in being harsh on people who really did something (ie joined the Communist Party) — and running a witchhunt to destroy people who may not have done anything at all.

    Didn’t McCarthy use Starr tactics? Get some target under oath and then ask personal questions to trap them into perjury. (Cf ‘a Martha Stewart conviction’: she didn’t do anything, was just convicted of ‘lying to investigators’.)

  38. McCarthy was censured by the US Senate for his unsubstantiated claims. He claimed soviet spies were at work in the Truman administration. I see no reason to defend McCarthy. He was crack pot.

  39. JanH
    September 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    Maybe they need to clone Hillary. All of a sudden it seems as if she is wanted for every position in the White House. Damn it all, give her the position that is rightfully hers already…that of the real potus.
    *********************************************************

    you said it, girlfriend! isn’t that the truth!

  40. mj, maybe its the rise before the crash as they have been saying the stock market will do when we finally crash.

    JanH, Its apalling that they want to give her every hat but not the throne…disgusting.

    Supreme court, SOS, Defense sec., what else?

    What has Bloomberg done with the economy of New York, I thought it was going broke?? What the unemployment numbers there?? Why him?? Mr.GroundZero Mosque??

  41. turndownobama
    September 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Here’s the current line of succession according to Wikipedia. SOS is 4 and Sec of Defense is 6.

    1 Vice President Joe Biden
    2 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
    3 President pro tempore of the Senate Daniel Inouye
    4 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton

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    Well that’s good to know since Nasty will be knocked off her perch in November, and didn’t Joe say he only wanted to be VP for one term, and all the bean counting on the ‘Stimulus Package’ is taking away from his water-gun fights, then who the Hell knows who Daniel Inouye is, and that leaves Hillary #2 in line to the person that STOLE the Presidency from her and 18 million of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. JanH
    September 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Maybe they need to clone Hillary. All of a sudden it seems as if she is wanted for every position in the White House. Damn it all, give her the position that is rightfully hers already…that of the real potus.

    ———–
    Cut it down a little and it will make a great bumper sticker. 😉

    I get lot’s of comments on my Hillary 2012 bumper sticker, from people that are sick of Barry.

  43. Mj, Senator McCarthy was a loathsome character but unfortunately much of the history of the period is only recently coming to light and a reassessment of the period is long overdue.

    It is likely that McCarthy did not know what he was talking about but took advantage of leaks provided to him from others in order to advance himself. There were quite a few JournoListers of the period (on all sides) and some turn out to be communists under the pay of Stalin. Some of those people are liberal heroes.

    The sons of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, after decades fighting for their parents, eventually admitted that indeed their father was a Soviet spy and did turn over nuclear secrets. It’s a heart breaking story (made even more horrible by the deathbed lies the Rosenbergs told their sons). But the facts have to be followed to discover the truth. The NYTimes had a good story on this which provides a good overview (including the connection to the song Strange Fruit) of the Rosenberg case. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/nyregion/17rosenbergs.html

    There is a lot to the history of that era that needs to be reassessed. We doubt that McCarthy will come out much better than current history designates him as, but a lot of the Left of the time turns out to be much worse than many of us want to acknowledge. Of course we all know that Bobby Kennedy was a gung-ho member of McCarthy’s team and that there were a lot of sexual shenanigans going on with Schine and Roy Cohn (the Katzenjammer Kids). But there is a lot of history that is only now being uncovered.

    As repulsive as McCarthy is a lot of people on the Left were not much better and were indeed Stalinists. A lot of the Left can be excused because of the times they were in, but if that is allowed then a lot of the Right must be excused as well for the same reason.

  44. I know all about the Rosenbergs. I still say McCarthy was a crackpot. His accusations went too far and were unsubstantiated, which is why he was censured by the US Senate. I really don’t see it as a Left/Right issue, as Coulter does.

  45. Yeah, sure, saddle Hillary with Obama’s afghanistan. I don’t think so. I love how C Matthews thinks Hillary is the perfect candidate for any job save the presidency
    —————————————-
    Yes, every job except one: the presidency himself.

    By the way, who is Matthews:

    a. a faux journalist with a vendetta against the Clintons?

    b. a corrupt talking head with tourets syndrome?

    c. joseph goebbles for the Obama campaign and administration?

    d. an albino pig who makes less money than Olberstrumfuerer?

    (Correct answer: all of the above except d. Pigs are smart animals and make good pets)

  46. That’s a scary thought President Pelosi…can you imagine those jumping eyebrows at Press Conferences??
    ——————————
    Better protection than a hundred million dollar whole life insurance policy and a legion of Pretorian guards–the possibility if Barack were gone and Biden was adjudged to be non compos mentis then that rum ridden debut tramp Poopsie would succeed him. No one in their right mind could want that to happen.

  47. wbboei, You always make me laugh at your descriptions of people, especially Obama and Mathews. LOL!

    esp. this one.. he is a corrupt talking head with tourets syndrome…now that funny and TRUE!

  48. Weather Update:

    Hurricane Earl has just about fizzled. For anyone wondering what is going on on the E-coast, there’s been plenty of rain but the anticipated force 4 winds are no where near the earlier predictions which is a blessing. I believe Chelsea’s wedding day was the last of the best picture perfect weekends ever of the summer of 2010. The heavens were smiling brilliantly down on her and Marc on their wedding day. Wonderful omen for the best of what is to come for the couple… imo-
    ___________________________

    henry
    September 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
    ___________________________

    henry- thanks for the quick summary and critique of Coulter’s book. Sort of an organic redemption for her if in fact she is laying the groundwork reinventing herself purging the mean spiritedness she was famous for when it came to talking about the Clintons. It will be interesting observing Coulter’s demeanor towards Hillary from here on, noting if she is consciously in the process of a personality makeover towards Hillary if Hillary steps into the presidential limelight. Or is Coulter’s book prefacing an inquisition that may come to Obama in the form of McCarthyite hearings? What do you think?
    ____________________________

    JanH
    September 3rd, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Is she backing down on her “Jerusalem belonging to Israel belief?” I hope not. Or is this just obama crap?
    __________________________________

    JanH- I think she has to choose her words carefully when asked for an opinion. The last thing we need is for the Palestinians to cry foul if there is any hint of bias in Hillary’s words. She has to remain objective to a fault allowing both parties to set the tone while she stands by on the sidelines. I think she would adamantly encourage Obama to butt-out and stay out of the negotiation process between the two countries. Her job basically would be wrangling Obama for the good of the Peace talks. imo-

  49. After years of abuse by the media moguls…Hillary might be enjoying some positive press now…God knows she earned it!

  50. Mrs.Smith, I am glad you guys weathered the storm…I was worrying today but got caught up on work…glad your safe.

    I also agree with what you say about Hillary and the negotiations.

    What about Tingles saying that’s Obama has been running the country by himself…wow, well thats why we are up shitcreek without a paddle.. Chris calling for him to install some real help is something of a turnaround for O’Tingles. Poor little O, he can’t catch a break, not even from his choir boy, Chris!

  51. If you read the article we referenced you should have no doubt that it always was a Left/Right issue. The Rosenberg case, along with the “Pumpkin Papers” and others all were Left/Right issues for decades – foolish as that may seem to some of us today. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/nyregion/17rosenbergs.html?pagewanted=2

    “They would literally be embraced by Rosenberg defenders, dwindling in number but unflagging in their faith, as touchstones of an era when the world was reflexively defined as black or white (or red). If you believed the Rosenbergs were not guilty, you were considered a fellow traveler. If you believed the government, you were viewed as a McCarthyite.”

    That Left/Right divide persisted for decades. As we wrote McCarty was loathsome, as well as an alcoholic and a self-promoting hypocrite(a homophobe who surrounded himself with homosexuals (“gay” being of more current vintage and with a “proud” connotation)) and more than likely a crook.

    As to “censure” the NYTimes report of the proceedings is quite an interesting read (McCarthy was “condemned” not “censured” which in itself is an amusing read) . The Times’ report is an example of how far journalism has fallen. The Times provides a blow by blow account without discernible bias, unlike what we read in the Times today. McCarthy was condemned for his abuses and name-calling against the Senate (mostly because of an investigation into McCarthy’s dubious finances) not for his attacks on individual citizens. The charges regarding General Zwicker were not even voted upon.

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1202.html

  52. Beck puts out some good facts sometimes, then other times goes totally carnival barker wacko. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: He is basically a Michael Moore type. A guy with a good research staff, exposing stuff that no one else will, but none too picky about making leaps of connection that defy logic at times, and as much an entertainer as informer.

    I do have to refute this, though: “Of course, he neglects to mention that there were Republican progressives too like Teddy Roosevelt and Robert La Follette as well. So the waters get very murky.”

    Actually, he doesn’t. He has gone after Teddy and other Republicans like gangbusters on a couple of shows.

  53. A lot of the Left can be excused because of the times they were in, but if that is allowed then a lot of the Right must be excused as well for the same reason.

    ===============

    Unless we’ve been misinformed on a lot of facts, I don’t see much excuse for McCarthy. If there was a real Communist Conspiracy (or a sincere fear of one) — then he shouldn’t have been muddying the waters by a bullying witchhunt for his own selfish purposes. Hey, he gave witchhunting a bad name.

  54. Henry…I read Ann Coulter’s column. She’s very good. When she said she’d support Hillary over McCain I took notice. Then I heard she was the keynote speaker at HomoCon, billed as the Judy Garland of the right, I really took notice. Don’t agree with her on a lot of subjects, but it seems all the interesting women these days ( except Hillary) lean right.

  55. HA!!!! Big Dawg takes a swipe at Obama’s crappy Health Care Deform:

    Clinton said McMahon should get reelected, praising him as the kind of “independent” official he liked working with on Capitol Hill when he was president.

    The former president also gave McMahon credit for voting against health care reform, saying that he was acting in the interests of the state, not political expediency, when he did it.

    “Our hospitals face real problems under this health care bill,” Clinton said of New York.

    I hope Bill just smiles and smiles and SMILES supportively while he undermines the FUCK out of these morons who hijacked my party!

  56. Another iftar
    Clinton to speak at Ramadan dinner
    By MATT NEGRIN | 09/03/10 12:09 PM Updated: 09/03/10 12:10 PM
    Hillary Clinton will host an iftar dinner on Tuesday to celebrate Ramadan.
    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will host an iftar dinner on Tuesday to celebrate Ramadan, the State Department announced.
    Clinton and Farah Pandith, a special representative to Muslim communities, will speak at the dinner.
    President Obama hosted an iftar on Aug. 13 at the White House, where he spoke publicly for the first time about the proposed mosque near ground zero.
    ___________________

    I don’t understand this. Obama ignores the National Day of Prayer, does not celebrate Christmas at the White House (to my knowledge) yet they throw 2 Iftar dinners, one at the White House and one through the State Department.

  57. HillaryForTexas, thanks for that Bill Clinton quote. We are surprised that this is not front page news (wait till some other websites get a hold of this quote and we suspect it will soon grow “legs” as an echo of the Ron Wyden repudiation of “Obamacare”).

    HotAir has some very interesting Florida news about a prominent African-American legislator who has endorsed Crist over Meeks. The story leaves out the Bill Clinton angle (Bill will be campaigning for Meeks in Florida). The speculation at HotAir is that Obama will eventually dump African-American Meeks. What we find Hill-arious is that Obama might be going against Meeks while “racist” Bill will be campaigning for Meeks. This would not be the first time that Obama has screwed African-American candidates to benefit himself.

    HotAir article quoting Politiker and The Hill:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/03/uh-oh-prominent-florida-dem-endorses-crist-over-meek/

    Uh oh: Prominent Florida Dem endorses Crist over Meek

    Wait, it gets worse.

    “The highest ranking Democrat in Florida’s state Senate on Thursday endorsed Republican-turned-independent Gov. Charlie Crist in his bid for the U.S. Senate…

    Lawson, known as the “Dean of the Legislature” for his tenure as the longest serving member of Florida’s state Senate, is the only African-American state senator from North Florida; Meek is Florida’s first ever African-American U.S. Senate nominee.

    “Florida desperately needs an independent senator in Washington who will fight for good jobs and economic opportunity, a quality education for every child, and Social Security for all of our seniors regardless of what the political party bosses want,” Lawson said in a statement. “Charlie Crist will be exactly that Senator, and I am proud to endorse his candidacy.”

    Big deal or no? Well, remember that Crist polls fairly well among black Democrats. He might have ended up as their candidate of choice had Greene upset Meek in the primary; as it is, he’ll have to work hard to peel black voters away — although endorsements like this certainly help. Then again, Hillary was endorsed by a bunch of prominent black Democrats early in the 2008 primaries and Obama won overwhelmingly among in that demographic anyway.

    Beyond the racial politics, though, obviously any signal from a top Democrat to the rank and file that it’s okay to support the indie over the party nominee is crucial. Ed cited an analysis the other day claiming that Crist has a tough path to the nomination because he needs a third of both the Democratic and Republican vote, as well as 50 percent of unaffiliateds. But a third of the Democratic vote isn’t unthinkable, especially if big names start coming out in his favor. In fact, Crist can conceivably do way, way better than a third if he starts to identify publicly as a Democrat, which he’s bound to do — if not personally, then via surrogates like Lawson — as the race wears on. I still think the most significant poll in the race thus far is the one last week by PPP claiming that fully two-thirds of Meek’s support would shift instantly to Crist if he announced that he’ll caucus with the Democrats. He’s reluctant to do that since it’ll cost him his Republican support, but then that’s why these endorsements are important: They preserve plausible deniability for him while wooing the voters he needs. (At least one Crist fundraiser is on record as saying, “[A]fter all the Republican Party has done to Charlie, he caucuses with the Democrats.”)

    The big question, now more than ever, is whether there’s any critical mass of support among Democrats that Crist can attract to sway Obama into endorsing him. The only way it happens, I think, is in late October and only then if Meek is completely hopeless; imagine Rubio leading Crist 45/37 with Meek floundering at around 18 percent and you’ve got ideal conditions. In that case, the party would forgive The One for betraying the nominee for the greater good of keeping the seat out of Republican hands. And hey — it’s not like Obama would have to do it through gritted teeth. According to the Hill, he’s in Crist’s camp already:

    “Unfortunately for Meek, one of the worst-kept secrets in Washington and in the media who care to report the actual news is that President Obama and key Democratic leaders, particularly those who control and influence the purse strings, are giving a wink and a nudge to big donors to write checks to Crist instead of Meek. Crist is now being supported by the dirty, sexy money from Establishment Democrats, and is certain to lose what little Republican support he may have been able to hold onto up to this point, significantly increasing the chances for a Marco Rubio (R) win in November. Crist needs Obama, and Obama needs Crist. And like a Lifetime Channel tearjerker made-for-TV movie, we all know where this leaves Kendrick Meek.

    Amazingly, Meek lives up to his name and is “meek” on this important point, instead preferring to grovel and be grateful for crumbs tossed his way by Establishment Democrats, pretending that President Obama is right there by his side. In truth, Obama and the Democrats are doing just enough to keep up appearances, all the while sticking the shiv in Meek’s back behind the scenes, and cavorting with Charlie Crist on the side.

    Exit question: Time to start a pool on when Obama dumps Meek officially? I’ll take October 20.

    Obama better think twice if Bill decides to go all out for Meek.

  58. crazy horse
    I am fascinated by the gay judy garland because I with my limited understanding of con law cannot refute her. She is wicked smart.
    I have a problem with the judy tag, but that is splitting hairs

  59. Forget Ann Coulter the person but read her book written in 2003 ignore her ignore ignore others quotes defending her just read the quotes from the n y times from 1936 on. Ann makes it easy all documented. Freaky scary shit. I have alot more to learn about this period in history. i am confused, but gotta say Ms Coulter has every line backed up where as books appproved by departments of education do not.
    Just ordered the rest of Ms Coulters books. Cannot wait to disagree with her, but I bet she’d enjoy it.

  60. Henry–I like Ann myself. She has the unique ability to offend all the right people. The people she offends are pompous arrogant fools who claim to be morally superior to the rest of us. These people are quick to take offense, and when the do they emote like a bad version of Hamlet. Ann knows this and takes great delight in pushing every one of their buttons, then she steps back and watches those tin gods go blatto. For me, that is her most endearing attribute.

    Ann has written about McCarthy and offered a defense of him, as well as Whitaker Chambers who appeared before the HUAC. Her accounts have a ring of plausibility to them. I agree that there needs to be a reassessment of what occurred during that era. That McCarthy was an opportunist there can be no doubt. That he made charges which were over broad and false accusations is clear. But when we look back on that era now there is a tendency to forget just how serious the threat was viewed at that time and how successful the communists had been in penetrating our security. Alger Hiss was another guilty party who the left wing elite rushed rallied around. For years they claimed he was innocent. After all, he was a Harvard Man, and better still had been a clerk for Oliver Wendell Holmes, years before.

  61. wbboei
    I was blown away reading Ann Coulter’s Treason. First off a point that she makes over and over again is that HUAC was the House blah blah blah. I am 42 grew up hearing only the bad shit about the senator. He was a senator not in the house? Never knew that.
    She makes a very valid case about how the left uses the term McCartyism to demonize.
    I was astounded by her claims and spent hours researching what she wrote. Blown away. I thought maybe she was playing loose with the facts but she did not, Solid research. Every quote is real.

    I urge you to read the first 100 pages and forget about espionage but rather just read her quotes from the ny times and the nation, They are saying the same things today they said back then– even after they were proved to be full of shite.

  62. just read the quotes from the n y times from 1936 on. Ann makes it easy all documented.

    ————–

    Better read the NY Times from 1936 on, yourself. I wound’t trust Coulter to quote accurately — or to quote ALL the relevant stories.

  63. Admin: you have answered the riddle of what to do with Obama after he slinks off the stage with one disastrous term under his belt and the country in a depression. Where does he go, what does he do, he is too young and gifted to just retire. The other problem is he is lazy as hell, so we need to come up with a cushy job for him to waste away in. Previously we had him tagged for a job at the United Nations like Secretary Treasurer (that way MO the priestess with the leastest could call HIM Secretary) . But it gets back to the same problem a dirty little four letter word spelled w-o-r-k (shutter). Looks to me like this Duke of Earl Stuff would be the prefect gig for him, he could walk around with a monacle, a cape and pontificate to his hearts desire. And of course it would play to a sell out audience (i.e. an audience of journalists who sell out) like oh maybe . . . Matthews, Todd, Stepanopolis and their ilk who would be seated in the front row drooling.

  64. That McCarthy was an opportunist there can be no doubt. That he made charges which were over broad and false accusations is clear. But when we look back on that era now there is a tendency to forget just how serious the threat was viewed at that time
    ===============

    All the more reason why it was irresponsible of McCarthy to make false accusations. Crying wolf, bringing the sincere investigators into disrepute.

    A similar thing may be happening now. So many false accusations against innocent Muslims may be hampering our security efforts against real Muslim terrorists.

  65. I thought maybe she was playing loose with the facts but she did not, Solid research. Every quote is real.

    ==============

    And what other stories did she not quote at all?

  66. yet they throw 2 Iftar dinners, one at the White House and one through the State Department.

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    Maybe Hillary wants equal time.

  67. wbboie
    I have listened to Coulter for a few years now. More often than not I thought I disagreed with her. The more I have learned however I find myself in agreement.

    What is so funny is that she is an attorney and she knows the law very very well. You hear everyone going on about right to privacy but she’s the only one who takes it back to the birth control case in the early 60’s and then even to common law, I love to listen to her when it comes to issues of privacy and the right to— she really affirms it but disagrees with how it came to be the law of the land. I am pro choice pro gay marriage and lots of other liberal stuff but I am confused about how the right to have birth control can legally be made into roe v wade. And again I am pro choice. I just don’t agree with the right to privacy aspect of the ruling. Educate me please if you think I am wrong.

  68. I urge you to read the first 100 pages and forget about espionage but rather just read her quotes from the ny times and the nation, They are saying the same things today they said back then– even after they were proved to be full of shite.
    ————————————–
    Where NYT is concerned the following is true:

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    I have read the book and had the same reaction you did.

  69. Coulter’s book. Sort of an organic redemption for her if in fact she is laying the groundwork reinventing herself purging the mean spiritedness she was famous for when it came to talking about the Clintons.

    =============

    Following in Huffington’s footsteps? How far?

  70. turndownobama
    read all stories which Coulter referenced as well as everything on wiki which makes no qualms about disliking Coulter. All quotes are legit and published within a context which represents the gist of the article, I spent more than ten hours today doubting Coulter. Every quote is verifiable.

  71. turndownobama
    the book I was referencing was written and published in 2003. If you read my original post I said she is not to be read bu people who cannot take Clinto criticism.

    i am just amazed that in 2003 she was writing about what a joke the nytimes and the nation were for selective publication and how wrong they turned out to be. So amy quotes from the times defending accused spies can now almost verbatim be attributed to the defense of terrorists. You do not have to believe me do the research. Read the actual articles, Not the quotes the actual articles. I did. To save you some work you’ll be hard pressed to find them through the times website but i do believe Coulter has her notes/bibliography online for anyone to check,

  72. You may have been able to look up the quotes Coulter used, but how do you know what stories, contradicting her ideas, she may have left out altogether?

  73. wbboei
    Coulter is the best thing i have read in a long time. I love the fact that I know where she is coming from so I can discount or evaluate what she is saying. Hot damn though she is laden with proof upon proof for her shit. Documented as well. I have been paying attention to her for a number of years now so when I read her I can her her voice. She is an acquired taste.
    Ann speaks her mind in a world of pseudojournalists I seldom agree but I give her more respect than anyone on tv today.

  74. turndownobama
    point taken
    some were ny times stories some were abridged from other now defunct papers
    Guess I want to say I was taught mostly by Hollywood that Senator joseph McCarthy was a horrible monster who drove people to suicide and ruined lives. He drove people to poverty.

    Well that is all a lie. A gross misrepresentation by hollywood. So tell me what am I to believe? Until a few months ago I naively thought I could google something and get a real result. Hundreds complained that google gave false directions in dc. Paranoia? Picture of waffles looking like a jackass being emailed to everyone and their baby’s daddy but no record of it on major search engines.
    Yeah something being emailed ahundred thousand times shouldn’t show up on most emailed. OOps what happened then. No the AP didn’t take down the picture, No news agency would do something like that.

  75. FYI
    Some of you may remember a few months back i was on a mission to get Sophie B Hawkin’s Damn I wish you were President over 250,000. Well I hit it over and over and over again. Closed browser opened up new voted. For several days I did it. During that time tally went up 46 views. So I thought okay unique perhaps even thogh I knew that was wrong. I got one hundred people to watch video from different ips and the next day the totalwent up 27?

  76. A Little Help Please
    I feel the need to define myself. Actually I do not but my friends do
    I am for giving a woman every opportunity to not have an abortion, but I am about keeping my nose out of a woman’s body
    I am for the government getting out of domestic relationships. A union between two consenting adults should only be a concern for the government when it comes to taxes. And two gay men who spend a lifetime together should not be penalized when I straight couple can spend a weekend together in Vegas.

    I am vehemently against the death penalty as I do not know if there is something beyond but I know I sure as hell do not want to deprive another of getting where they need to be.

    I think drug laws are archaic and stupid. I believe judges cripple the medicare system by dumping offenders into rehabs and halfway houses when the cost should be consumed by the correctional programs/

    I believe a person suffering from disease should have the right to determine what care is appropriate.

    I believe parents should be allowed to feed their kids McDonalds.

    I believe the earth is sacred and profound. I believe I should respect it. I try to but I also believe the hypocrites should be held accountable,(gore)

  77. Madison was a student of history. When he wrote the Constitution, he relied in part on the political theories of a philosopher of the French Enlightment. His name was Charles de Secondat, baron de Montesquieu. Tonight I was thinking about him in relation to the rise of Obama. What he said has relevance:

    1. first, his theory of what causes a great nation to fall: [I]f a particular cause, like the accidental result of a battle, has ruined a state, there was a general cause which made the downfall of this state ensue from a single battle.” Today, we call this the tipping point.

    2. second, the administrative powers of a state are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial. These should be separate from and dependent upon each other so that the influence of any one power would not be able to exceed that of the other two, either singly or in combination. Today, we think of the media as the fourth estate. When all four are kept separate they exert a check and balance on each other which protects liberty. When they are no longer separate but fused, you will end up with tyranny. You see the emanations of that now with Obama who has co-opted the press and the legislature.

    3. third, there are three main forms of government, each supported by a social “principle”: monarchies (free governments headed by a hereditary figure, e.g. king, queen, emperor), which rely on the principle of honor; republics (free governments headed by popularly elected leaders), which rely on the principle of virtue; and despotisms (enslaved governments headed by dictators), which rely on fear. The free governments are dependent on fragile constitutional arrangements. Barack is moving this nation away from a republic and toward despotism. How much honor did you see in the democratic congress? None? Or less than none? And what does he deal in really other than fear. Everything he wants to change he first calls unsustainable and then rolls over it leaving major tire tracks.

  78. admin/wbb
    Know almost zip about the Hiss affair. Would love to read more, No clue as to where to turn. I would greatly appreciate one middle ground book or two polar opposites.
    Thanks in advance,

  79. I wonder what happens to former Senators? With the exception of doctors no industry is ruder than politicians. I cannot tell you the number of times I would get a reservation request on balloon night( the night before thanksgiving when they blow up all of the balloons for the parade). I’d say sorry we are booked up. Sorry still booked up. I am calling from senator’s blah blah office. Sorry still booked up. Can i speak with the manager. Sure give me a minute to get me — oops sorry still booked up. Informed about how important the senator is/was, but I was still booked up. Nothing I could do. No tables to be had. Yet I was still the recipient of veiled threats. What is your name canyou spell your last name. Do you still reside at ……. Wait you called me for a reservation I say know and you are asking me where I live? Bad as they were doctors are even worse.

  80. wbboei
    libertarian sounds cooky to me
    I used to think I was a conservative rabid liberal
    but today’s liberals alienate me.

  81. wbboei
    I wish it was so simple to adopt a label.
    Today I went to the local library with three bags full of books to donate. Quality books. Mostly hard cover that the people on my street share and then donate, Once a month someone takes them to the library. Today was my turn. I got there around three and I was astonished at how busy the little place was. So I asked the librarian what was up and she told me the are are always inundated from the time school gets out until 6 when the parents pick them up. She told me its the same kids everyday. The kids are safe there which is a great thing, but the entire library is a daycare center. Don’t know if that is a bad thing????????? I just think in a world where two parents have to work it seems silly to shut a school with two olympic sized pools and multiple gyms down at 2:30. Does responding to the basic needs of the community make me less of a libertarian?

  82. Vacations and bailouts. Perfect together for Obama.

    Dimocrat desperation showing. Obama to stump for Sestak. Just ‘yesterday’ Sestak was the odd man out. Party unity and all? Each man is now one rung lower than before (as if that were possible.)

    Chris Carney, who until now has run on his hometown value upbringing has sent out an a large heavy stock post card with headline “Tom Marino Will END Social Security. Tom Marion Will End Social Security As We Know It. Not Cut. Not Reduce. But End It.”
    Of course Chris is only going to cut and reduce.

    And the fourth estate is helping with the misogyny of Gov. Jan Brewer. Evidently she lost track of a thought during a recent debate. Brian Williams NBC 6:30 PM yesterday spent several minutes detailing the gaffe. Later on in the program, Brian gave us a cozy insight into the girls of the current WH. I tuned out after the tease: it was about what the girls are allowed to do on school nights etc. More morality from the underworld.

  83. Admin. The hospital my son works at in Tomball, Texas laid off 100 people yesterday and he said as far as he knows no licensed people got laid off. His boss got the ax though.. like my son says the hospitals have been on a skeleton staff for several years now so they can’t lose any more licensed people…but they will go next when the democrats approve more HB1 visas for nurses, doctors, xray techs, and lab personel. I just know this is what will happen next to cut the wages.

  84. The Friday “jobs” report push by the Obama propaganda ministry as “good news” is in reality more bad news
    (snip)
    “Manufacturing payrolls unexpectedly dropped by 27,000.

    The entry of 550,000 new workers into the job market, combined with the net reduction in non-farm payrolls, resulted in the rise in the official jobless rate, the first increase in four months. The 9.6 percent figure, however, masks the true scale of the jobs crisis. The government’s so-called “underemployment rate,” which includes workers who want a job but have given up looking for work and those who want full-time work but are forced to work part-time, is a closer approximation of joblessness. That figure rose in August from 16.5 percent to 16.7 percent.

    The total number of Americans counted by the government as unemployed rose in August to 14.86 million, up from 14.59 million in July. When so-called “discouraged” workers and those involuntarily working part-time are added, the number of jobless workers approaches 26 million”
    (snip)
    Obama, flanked by his team of economic advisers, hailed the jobs report in remarks delivered Friday morning from the White House Rose Garden. Oozing complacency and indifference, he pointed to “the eighth consecutive month of private job growth” and said, “Now, that’s positive news, and it reflects the steps we’ve already taken to break the back of this recession.”

    He managed to include in his brief remarks the clichés that there is “no quick fix” and “no silver bullet” to reduce the highest jobless rate since the Great Depression. He sought to make a verbal acknowledgment of the social distress confronting workers, while belittling the depth of the crisis and claiming that the “recovery” merely needed to be sped up.

    “But the key point I’m making now,” he said, “is that the economy is moving in a positive direction. Jobs are being created. They’re just not being created as fast as they need to…We just have to speed it up.”
    (snip)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/sep2010/jobs-s04.shtml
    ***********

    “Oozing complacency and indifference,” A perfect description of the fraud in chief. He is getting more petulant and annoyed when his handlers force him to do any “work”. My guess is that after the Nov 2 blow-out, he will stop pretending to be “working”…it will be two years of continuous, in you face, FU America, VACATIONS.

  85. henry, Coulter may actually be correct about Roe. Many legal scholars, including pro-choice ones, admit that Roe is a very weak and shaky foundation for abortion rights. It really is a stretch to interpret “privacy” to extend to that. But that’s the argument they made, and we’ve now spent decades scurrying around to shore up that weak premise, because it’s all we’ve got.

    IMO, I wish they had argued on the basis of the 13th amendment – involuntary servitude. This would also make moot the question of when life begins. Because if you argued that one person does not have the right to the use of another’s physical body without their consent, then whether that fetus is a life at 2 weeks or at 6 months is irrelevant. One human being cannot demand the use of another’s spare kidney, or bone marrow, or uterus, or other physical sustenance via bodily organs without consent.

    I’m one of many (actually, most) women who thinks the idea that “it’s just a clump of cells til the day it pops out” is ludicrous and a dishonest argument. Of course it’s a human being at SOME point before birth! I just think that my physical body is sacrosanct, and I get to choose whether I incubate another human being inside it or not. I wouldn’t make that choice lightly, and neither do most women. I think those who argue “Lalala, it’s nothing, it’s a clump of tissue..” actually do the cause a disservice.

  86. I’ve got a better job for Obama when he leaves the WH for the last time after he finishes screwing everything up…he could be lineboss at Levenworth. He could strut around bossing all the other criminals around. He could speak on iftar while facing East on the hoe line.

  87. “but they will go next when the democrats approve more HB1 visas for nurses, doctors,”
    ********
    I wen to see my cardiologist for annual visit. She was depressed about the deterioration of medical care. Her hospital is hiring more foreign “hospitalists” who now manage her hospitalized patients. They are told not to call her about HER patients’ care. Cost “awareness is their #1 priority. She said that she had planned on working for 5-10 more years but that the “fun” was gone. Her husband, a kidney specialist, had had enough and stop practice that day.

    My advice to her was to set a retire date in the next two years and to stick to it.

  88. I’m beginning to hold some faith that O will not wiggle out this time. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 24% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21

    But we must not ever let up our guard.

  89. I’m one of many (actually, most) women who thinks the idea that “it’s just a clump of cells til the day it pops out” is ludicrous and a dishonest argument. Of course it’s a human being at SOME point before birth! I just think that my physical body is sacrosanct, and I get to choose whether I incubate another human being inside it or not. I wouldn’t make that choice lightly, and neither do most women. I think those who argue “Lalala, it’s nothing, it’s a clump of tissue..” actually do the cause a disservice.
    **********
    That is the bottom line and I agree the “Blastocyst” meme is disingenuous and does a disservice. IIRC, I think that Ruth Bader-Ginsberg made the same argument about the weak legal foundation of “privacy” and got a lot of heat from the same groups that many years later sold women out to Obama.

  90. Yeah Henry those are libertarian beliefs. Basically Libertarians are live and let live kinda folks. I consider myself one. Am I kooky?? Hmmmm. Possibly!

  91. What I think is interesting, and no one talks about is this.

    1. Obama did not lay out a specific plan during the cammpaign

    2. Obama did not lay out a specific plan right after he was elected.

    3. Obama still does not have a plan for anything.

    His theory was to Throw out a stimulus, send out propaganda that it is working (after all this was a normal recession which we naturally ould come ot of). When it does not work go back to Congress and ask for another stimulus? Better hurry while you still have the majority.

    well, at least the highway building crews have a job. When do you think he will figure out that the Corporations we bailed out, are not lending money to the average joe, and when they hire back they are hiring younger cheaper American labor, in addition to continuing to outsource oversea. You would think that in these times that outsourcing, since the Ameican tax payer saved you, would be considered treason. I guess not. The most immportant thing is your bonus.

    I guess the only plan he really has is to be re-elected. Nothing will get done if he loses his majority. So it will be interesting to see how he runs on a slim to none track record. But then he got elected the first time on one.

  92. SHV, what many frothing idealogues on BOTH sides of the debate refuse to recognize is that abortion is a unique conundrum unlike any other. Because what we have is a situation, applicable to ONLY one gender, where two equally fundamental rights that we treasure come into direct conflict – The right to life, and the right to liberty. Ideologues on both sides want to pretend that we are ONLY dealing with one or the other, but in truth we need some means to preserve both. Some sort of compromise is going to have to be reached, and no compromise is going to be perfect. That’s what happens when there is direct conflict between two basic rights.

    For instance, I have no issue with laws restricting late-term abortions. But how can I be consistent in my belief that a woman’s body is her own, and still be okay with that, you may ask? Well, there is the underlying legal concept of “implied consent”. It exists in contract law and other laws, deadlines for filing complaints and lawsuits, etc. IOW, if a woman has not decided to terminate a pregnancy by X reasonable month, the law assumes that she had no objection to it, and has consented to that pregnancy.

    Usually on the issue of abortion I manage to infuriate both camps. 😉

  93. What I think is interesting, and no one talks about is this.

    1. Obama did not lay out a specific plan during the cammpaign

    2. Obama did not lay out a specific plan right after he was elected.

    3. Obama still does not have a plan for anything.
    ——————————
    NMF: Mr. Obama responds in the manner that Athens did to the threat posed by Philip of Macedon. (Yes, I know the source is obscure, but the point is au curant and relevant to what you say). Here is what one of its leaders told their Senate:

    “So you’ thundered Demosthenes, ‘if you hear of Philip in the Chesonese vote an expedition there, if at Thermopolae, you vote one there; you merely keep pace with him to and fro. You take your marching orders from him; YOU HAVE NEVER FORMED ANY PLAN OR CAMPAIGN FOR YOURSELF, NEVER FORESEEN ANY EVENT UNTIL YOU LEARN THAT SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED OR IS HAPPENING . . . OUR BUSINESS IS NOT TO SPECULATE ON WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING FORTH, BUT TO BE CERTAIN THAT IT WILL BRING DISASTER, UNLESS YOU FACE THE FACTS AND CONSENT TO DO YOUR DUTY”.–First Philipic. (The Conduct of War)

  94. I wonder whats holding Harry up.

    The Nevada Senate race is tied at 45/45 for Reid and Angle but the Nevada Gov race is so lopsided, where Harry’s son Rory is getting is ass handed to him by the Republican Sandoval by 58 to 33.

    It may well be that if Sandoval wins so lopsided, it will pull Angle over the line because i have a theory that a lot of people will just see the name Reid all over the ballot and vote against it.

    Why would anyone in their right minds hand the Senate seat and the Gov job to a father and son like those two.

  95. Years ago a friend who had an abortion said to me:
    “If the unborn thing can live on its own, outside my body, then it’s murder to kill it.
    But if the unborn thing is totally dependent upon using me to live, then I have every right to refuse to allow it. As long as it’s using me, I own it, and I can disown it. Nobody has the right to tell me how my body can be used.”

    No matter what emotion I might feel over this, it has always seemed to me that her argument was irrefutable… except for those who think they know what their gods have in mind or those who insist that we exist for the good of the state.

  96. Clinton Tells Netanyahu To Extend Settlement Freeze

    Saturday, 04 September 2010

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Thursday that he must extend the settlement freeze until the end of the year otherwise peace talks would collapse, Israeli press reported.

    Clinton reportedly made the request during a meeting with the Israeli premier held on the first day of re-launched negotiations in Washington, the Hebrew-language daily Ma’ariv said.

    The newspaper also quoted senior US sources as saying the US administration would not accept Netanyahu’s reasoning that the political price for extending the partial settlement freeze would be too high.

    Netanyahu said in July that extending the 10-month moratorium, due to expire on 26 September, could lead to the collapse of his right-wing coalition.

    Senior US officials said Netanyahu could not retain his political status at the expense of President Mahmoud Abbas’ domestic standing, Maariv reported.

    Abbas initially said he would not enter negotiations without assurances that Israel would comply with previous agreements and international law which prohibit settlement construction on Palestinian land.

    Israel could not be considered a serious partner for peace, he said, if it continued building roads and cities on land which would be a Palestinian state under a two-state agreement.

    Abbas based his agreement to resume direct talks on the Middle East Quartet statement, in which the US, UN, EU and Russia called for an end to illegal settlement construction.

    Palestinian sources quoted in the Israeli daily Haaretz said the US administration was exerting pressure on Abbas to continue negotiations even if Netanyahu resumed settlement construction, a move the sources said would be politically impossible for the president.

    http://www.eurasiareview.com/201009047741/clinton-tells-netanyahu-to-extend-settlement-freeze.html

  97. Thing is grape, i never know where to stand on abortion, i mean this world aborts kittens and puppies all the time in the name of keeping numbers down and no one says a damn word about it. That annoys me, what about the animals.

    When i adopted a stray off the street here, my doggie Gigi, i had to have her puppies aborted, she was pregnant with 9 of them, but here, i couldnt dare let her have 9 puppies, who would take them, they treat animals so bad here, you wouldnt believe, so i made that choice that she had to have an abortion. I still remember her depression afterwards,i felt so bad, she was so upset but it was necessary. It was a case of bringing 9 puppies into the world was not good because i could not take them, no one else would and all the shelters are so full they turn animals away, they would have had a cruel life of living in the streets, poisoned by the locals (yes they do that a lot here).

    What to do, sometimes the thing you least like is a necessary evil is what I’m really trying to say.

    I still think if you can’t afford or want children and get pregnant, then you either find a couple who want the child early or then look at other options. I do think human abortion is made too easy to obtain these days, thats all. I suppose thats where i stand. There are plenty of loving families who want kids and the authorities make it too damn hard for them to adopt.

  98. The roar of the crowd has died down, the smoke has cleared, perhaps the country is in a better position to evaluate Mr. Obama in the cold light of day, on the basis of actions as opposed to mere words. At this point, any sober appraisal of the man must focus on three factors:

    1. his character

    2. his competence

    3. his agenda

    I would argue that he is morally and mentally deficient in all three areas. Indeed, they can be listed individually, but they are really inseparable. And for the people, the party and the nation, they spell doom. In legal lingo, disaster is foreseeable. The precise timing is the only imponderable.

  99. I do not say that Obama does not love his dog. We know he does. In fact he loves him so much that he charters a separate airplane for him, a kennel in the sky, at taxpayer expense. So what else is new? Compare this to the shameful way Romney treated his dog, an Irish setter named Shamus. Strapped him on top of the family car, until the call of nature came running down the front windshield. No wonder Beast Baracks McCaskill spit in his microphone and handed it to him. She is right out of the movie Deliverance.

  100. SHV, what many frothing idealogues on BOTH sides of the debate refuse to recognize is that abortion is a unique conundrum unlike any other. Because what we have is a situation, applicable to ONLY one gender, where two equally fundamental rights that we treasure come into direct conflict – The right to life, and the right to liberty. Ideologues on both sides want to pretend that we are ONLY dealing with one or the other, but in truth we need some means to preserve both. Some sort of compromise is going to have to be reached, and no compromise is going to be perfect. That’s what happens when there is direct conflict between two basic rights.

    For instance, I have no issue with laws restricting late-term abortions. But how can I be consistent in my belief that a woman’s body is her own, and still be okay with that, you may ask? Well, there is the underlying legal concept of “implied consent”. It exists in contract law and other laws, deadlines for filing complaints and lawsuits, etc. IOW, if a woman has not decided to terminate a pregnancy by X reasonable month, the law assumes that she had no objection to it, and has consented to that pregnancy.

    Usually on the issue of abortion I manage to infuriate both camps
    *******
    About the best few paragraphs that I have read on the subject. You “implied consent” reasoning has cleared up my unease about late term abortion.

  101. Peter Orszag Goes From the Obama White House to the New York Times

    9/3/10

    When Peter Orszag announced that he was leaving the Obama White House to join a think tank, we had a feeling it wasn’t the last we’d heard from him. And now our suspicions have been confirmed: We’ll be hearing from him once or twice a month in the New York Times opinion pages. According to a Times press release, he “will cover a broad range of economic and domestic issues, including national fiscal policy, education, and health care.” Apparently, what that Times opinion section needs is another liberal-leaning economist to cheerlead for progressive economic policies from the White House — or one who provides another visible tie between the two institutions.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/peter_orszag_goes_from_the_oba.html

  102. Latest Gallup poll: Barack Obama will need a miracle to avoid Jimmy Carter’s fate

    By Nile Gardiner
    September 4th, 2010

    This week’s historic Gallup poll will have sent a shiver through the White House at the end of a summer of discontent, and is yet another key indicator that President Obama is likely to end up a lame duck president following the mid-term elections in November. The latest Gallup poll shows the Republicans in pole position to retake the House of Representatives, with other surveys suggesting the GOP will make big gains in the Senate as well, a scenario which would have been unthinkable at the start of the year.

    The USA Today/Gallup survey shows Republicans leading the Democrats among registered voters by 51 percent to 41 percent, the largest lead for the GOP “in Gallup’s history of tracking the midterm generic ballot in Congress”, which dates back all the way to 1942, when FDR was president. According to Gallup, Republicans are now twice as likely as Democrats to be “very” enthusiastic about voting. While cautioning that “change is possible between now and election day”, Gallup sees strong potential for sweeping Republican gains and the retaking of the House:

    The last Gallup weekly generic ballot average before Labor Day underscores the fast-evolving conventional wisdom that the GOP is poised to make significant gains in this fall’s midterm congressional elections. Gallup’s generic ballot has historically proven an excellent predictor of the national vote for Congress, and the national vote in turn is an excellent predictor of House seats won and lost. Republicans’ presumed turnout advantage, combined with their current 10-point registered-voter lead, suggests the potential for a major “wave” election in which the Republicans gain a large number of seats from the Democrats and in the process take back control of the House.

    Another poll by Gallup this week shows Republicans leading the Democrats in Congress on the handling of nine key election issues, including terrorism (a 24 point lead), immigration (15 points), federal spending (15 points), and the economy (11 points). In only one area do the Democrats hold a significant advantage – the environment, which is low down the list of voter priorities. On key economic issues, likely to dominate in November, the Republicans have a seemingly unassailable advantage – the four most important voter issues according to Gallup are the economy, jobs, corruption in government and federal spending.

    Gallup’s findings largely mirror another major poll, released by Rasmussen in late August, which found that voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on all ten key issues it regularly surveys. This includes an eight point lead on the economy and national security/ War on Terror, a nine point lead on immigration, and a striking 16-point lead on the issue of taxes. As they do in the Gallup poll, the Republicans have an overwhelming advantage on economic issues, which are likely to prove a major Achilles heel for the Democrats in November.

    And it’s not just in the House that conservatives are expected to make huge gains. The latest RealClearPolitics average of polls shows that the Democrats are perliously close to losing control of the Senate, with a 51 to 49 majority now projected. The Republicans currently hold just 41 seats to the Democrats’ 57, but look set to be in a far more powerful position in eight weeks time. RealClear Politics also projects the GOP to add an additional eight governorships in November, giving the Republicans a commanding 32 to 18 advantage at the state level.

    Could the Republicans win the Senate, causing a major upset? Judging by these polls that is now a distinct possibility, and would be nothing short of a political earthquake that may herald the defeat of President Obama himself in 2012.

    Only a miracle can reverse the fortunes of the Obama presidency in the lead-up to the mid-terms, and Barack Obama has been notably short of miracles since taking office, whether political or economic. The good fortune which he possessed when winning the presidency has all but evaporated, replaced by mounting opposition to both his policies and left-wing ideology. According to Rasmussen, just 29 percent of likely voters now believe the country is heading in the right direction, a damning indictment of President Obama’s leadership of the country.

    For a “transformational” president, this is devastating. Without the House of Representatives to rubber stamp his Big Government agenda, and the Senate in a likely stalemate, it will be impossible for Barack Obama to force legislation through in the final two years of his presidency. He will also be under immense pressure to cut the budget deficit and reduce government spending, as well as reverse his plans on health care reform, all of which go completely against his instincts. Bill Clinton, a far more skilful and pragmatic politician in many respects, survived the 1994 Democrat meltdown by moving to the center and working with the Right on some issues, a prospect that President Obama would find unpalatable.

    The Obama presidency is facing meltdown, and according to the polls is likely to be greatly weakened from November onwards, throwing a major spanner in the works of the ambitious Obama agenda to remake America. A conservative revolution is heading its way to Washington on a wave of anti-government sentiment, and looks unstoppable. Like Jimmy Carter before him, President Obama has succeeded in revitalising conservatism in the United States, and reawakening a sleeping giant. When Barack Obama spoke in his election campaign of bringing “change” to America, I doubt this is quite what he had in mind.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100052325/barack-obama-will-need-a-miracle-to-avoid-becoming-a-lame-duck-president/

  103. I never saw Obama sweat or cringe until McCaskill put her arm around him. Suddenly, the cool aloof and detached Obama became animated enough to remove it and pull away. Can you blame him? Her former husband was a lawyer. He died. He was a lucky lawyer.

  104. JanH
    September 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
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    Love it Jan. You made my Saturday morning with that post.

  105. moononpluto
    But animals in the wild are known to kill their young when conditions are not conducive to their survival.
    A domesticated animal loses the choice, you see.
    And then, there was the Buddhist who refused to kill anything – even the cancer threatening his life because, he said, “It, too, deserves to live.”

  106. Peter Orszag Goes From the Obama White House to the New York Times
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    It is a revolving door between this White House and Big Media. Why would anyone in their right mind believe there is any credibility for their political assessments of this president? They are joined at the hip. Their reportage reaks of bias, motive and interest, which are legal grounds for impeachment.

  107. I know, i have an abandoned kitten right now, small but a fighter, i just found him in the middle of the road, kept looking for the mother, she didnt come back, i’m bottle feeding him now as he cant be more than a couple of weeks, i can never leave an animal like that, i get too motherly.

  108. The Rev. Jesse Jackson found out just how rough things are in Detroit.

    Several Detroit media outlets reported thieves stole Jackson’s ride — a 2009 Cadillac Escalade — from a parking lot near the city’s Doubletree Hotel.

    The SUV was later recovered, but it was found without its rims and one of its windows had been broken, according to Detroit’s WXYZ-TV.

    Jackson was in Detroit for a march and rally called “Rebuild America: Jobs, Justice and Peace.”

    Just days after Jackson’s SUV was stolen, one of Detroit Mayor Dave Bing’s vehicles also went missing. The GMC Yukon Denali was later found resting on bricks, also missing its rims.

    ……………………………….

    Well they will live in that sewer dump. You never leave a parked car in Detroit without someone watching it 24/7. Well theres that redistribution, Jesse and his ilk like to talk about.

  109. moononpluto
    September 4th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Bless you. I too have a soft spot for animals, one of my best friend had the most interesting quotes, which I believe is true; you can tell a lot about people from how they treat kids and how they treat animals.

  110. I know, i have an abandoned kitten right now, small but a fighter, i just found him in the middle of the road, kept looking for the mother, she didnt come back, i’m bottle feeding him now as he cant be more than a couple of weeks, i can never leave an animal like that, i get too motherly.
    ——————————-
    Moon–

    Sounds cute. And a fighter besides.

    Are you that he is not a baby tiger?

    If you have not named him yet, that might be a good one.

  111. Usually on the issue of abortion I manage to infuriate both camps
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    Sometimes that is the litimus test of a good decision. One neither side is happy with, but learns to accept, and discovers over the course of time that it is not nearly as bad as they first thought.

  112. I’ve named him Bingo, it was the name of the washing powder, i’d just bought when i found him, so it stuck.

  113. SHV, as I said, compromise is necessary. One can argue all day about when, exactly, a fetus becomes a being with intelligent self-awareness (my definition of “human life”), rather than merely a developing human body with human DNA. We may never know the precise location of that line. A 2-week zygote falls into the latter category, I think. But it’s pretty obvious now with advanced fetal science that an 8-month fetus thinks, even DREAMS, and takes in information about his/her environment, feels real pain (not just reflex), etc. That’s a person, in my book.

    In the conflict between the right to life and the right to liberty, I have no problem with laws skewed to encourage the woman’s right to be exercised as early as possible. Is that perfect? Nope. It’s fraught with contradiction. But there has to be some reasoned approach that acknowledges the delicate balance of both sets of rights, and does the best we can, IMO.

  114. oooh Maureen really has gone off the reservation, Bambi wont be happy, talk about bitchy comments towards Obama. She really goes to town on him, me thinks come Nov, she’s going to rip him a new one. Is she finally off the Koolaid.

    http://www.twincities.com/opinion/ci_15976949?nclick_check=1

    Maureen Dowd: That new Oval Office carpet needs editing

    The Oval Office, the classiest, most powerful place on Earth, is now suffused with browns and beiges and leather and resembles an upscale hotel conference room or a ’70s conversation pit.

    It almost made me long for the Technicolor swagging and swathing style of the Clintons’ Little Rock decorator Kaki Hockersmith.

    The recession redo, paid for by the nonprofit White House Historical Association, was the latest tone-deaf move by a White House that was supposed to excel at connection and communication. Message: I care, but not enough to stop the fancy vacations and posh renovations.

    snip….

    The first thing the once inspirational orator should embroider around the rug, the maxim that sums up so much of what’s wrong with the administration now, is the immortal line from “Cool Hand Luke”: “What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate.”

    Sidetracked by the mosque fight and now admirably plunging into brokering a Middle East peace, Obama clearly needs a reminder about what really counts as the Democrats prepare to get their clocks cleaned. The rug should quote James Carville’s famous admonition: “It’s the economy, stupid!”

    snip…..

    While he’s at it, the president who naively yearned for unanimity when he had a majority might put this legend around the border of his carpet: “Post-partisanship doesn’t work with Mitch McConnell.”

    And for all of us who have that sinking feeling that the economic rug is being pulled out from under us, the president might stitch in the famous warning from “Jaws”: “We’re going to need a bigger boat.”

  115. wbboei @12:25, I have noticed that you are the practical sort, not the utopian perfect world sort. I am as well. Very few things, in life or politics, are 100% pure and right with no downside. We do the best we can, to the greatest benefit.

  116. I had a kitten drop by my house. I think he saw the other cat we had in the window, and he was looking for his mother. Anyway, he actually came up to the front door and meowed. I let him in and he was around for 20 years. Most loving cat we have ever had. It really hurt when we lost him.

  117. Speaking of utopian ideologues, both right and left, it often strikes me that people are so blind to what is right in front of their nose. We shake our heads and tut tut tut over the palestine/israel conflict, or other conflicts around the world, and bemoan the fact that these stubborn fools will not compromise. We say to the various factions in any conflict, “Hey, dummies, you are not going to get everything you want, and demonizing the other side, no matter how wrong you think they are, is never going to lead to resolution. You have to respect the other side’s “backward” culture, you have to acknowledge that their feelings and concerns are real to them. Even if they said nasty things about you first, if for no other reason than avoiding the whole world falling apart.”

    Then we turn around and utterly fail to apply that vaunted reasoning to our own conflicts within our own country. The same people who claim that talking with Iran is the wise thing to do, will in the next breath scream “No compromise!!! No persuading!!! You can’t reason with these people!!!! Utter defeat for them is the ONLY option!!!!” when confronted with a Sarah Palin or a John Boehner. Funny how that blindness persists.

  118. The Oval Office, the classiest, most powerful place on Earth, is now suffused with browns and beiges and leather and resembles an upscale hotel conference room or a ’70s conversation pit.
    [….]
    The recession redo, paid for by the nonprofit White House Historical Association

    ======================

    Everyone else has been saying it was paid for by the taxpayers.

  119. Actually, I don’t know anybody who thinks talking with Iran is the wise thing to do.

    Mr. Fraud did and Hillary went after him big time in one of the debates, and she was called a war wonger. Talking with a lunatic dictator only legimatizes it, I agree with Sarah Palin on this, and I agree with Hillary on this. No talks with Iran, only severe sanctions and the threat of weaponery, not against the people, but the lunatic dictatorial govt.

    This is much different than respecting another culture, like in Afghan., which is so much behind in basic civil rights, etc. That is respecting them, and slowly pulling them forward so little girls can be educated etc.

  120. IOW, I believe in persuasion, carrots and sticks, holding the line firmly when necessary, but always engagement and conversation, is the way to succeed in peace and prosperity on the international stage. Guess what? Those principles of mine don’t disappear when the threat or conflict is internal within my country.

  121. tim, Hill was against talks with no preconditions. She was not in favor of never engaging at all. Sticks AND carrots.

  122. Well, there is the underlying legal concept of “implied consent”. It exists in contract law and other laws, deadlines for filing complaints and lawsuits, etc. IOW, if a woman has not decided to terminate a pregnancy by X reasonable month, the law assumes that she had no objection to it, and has consented to that pregnancy.

    *******
    About the best few paragraphs that I have read on the subject. You “implied consent” reasoning has cleared up my unease about late term abortion.

    ======================

    Doesn’t work here. Some women have hopes the fetus will turn out saveable, so they wait and wait. It’s these, who HAVE ‘pro-life’ feelings, who will be hurt here. (See discussion about Tiller’s murder; by agreeing to do a late-term abortion if it became necessary, he PREVENTED many earlier, unnecessary, abortions.)

    To put it another way: restricting late term abortions will encourage more early, ‘just in case’, abortions — many of them being viable fetuses who would otherwise be successfully carried and born.

  123. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but iirc neither of those stories is true as stated.

    ” the shameful way Romney treated his dog, an Irish setter named Shamus. Strapped him on top of the family car, until the call of nature came running down the front windshield. No wonder Beast Baracks McCaskill spit in his microphone and handed it to him. ”

    Version I heard about the dog was that the dog’s carrier (with dog inside) was on top of the car. And McCaskill didn’t really spit in the microphone, she just joked about it.

  124. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but iirc neither of those stories is true as stated.

    ” the shameful way Romney treated his dog, an Irish setter named Shamus. Strapped him on top of the family car, until the call of nature came running down the front windshield. No wonder Beast Baracks McCaskill spit in his microphone and handed it to him. ”

    Version I heard about the dog was that the dog’s carrier (with dog inside) was on top of the car. And McCaskill didn’t really spit in the microphone, she just joked about it.

  125. Some sort of compromise is going to have to be reached

    =====================

    Such as developing better contraceptives.

  126. I’m one of many (actually, most) women who thinks the idea that “it’s just a clump of cells til the day it pops out” is ludicrous and a dishonest argument. Of course it’s a human being at SOME point before birth! I just think that my physical body is sacrosanct, and I get to choose whether I incubate another human being inside it or not. I wouldn’t make that choice lightly, and neither do most women. I think those who argue “Lalala, it’s nothing, it’s a clump of tissue..” actually do the cause a disservice.

    ====================

    It’s not a matter of what YOU think is ‘ludicrous and dishonest’. The nature of a fetus is a matter of opinion. Each person has a right to have her own opinion — and to act on it.

    I have seen a devout Jewish scholar argue that ‘life’ begins with the first breath — as in Genesis.

  127. I believe the earth is sacred and profound. I believe I should respect it.

    ========================

    THen you should not bad-mouth allies in that cause.

  128. sticks and carrots only works with somewhat sane govts. Hillary did not want to speak to Iran, she was a proponent of severe sanctions, and if Iran attacked Israel, it would be wiped out.

  129. I was taught mostly by Hollywood that Senator joseph McCarthy was a horrible monster who drove people to suicide and ruined lives. He drove people to poverty.

    Well that is all a lie. A gross misrepresentation by hollywood.

    ==================

    But that is just the sort of thing there would be good evidence of. Names and dates of people questioned, charged with perjury, fighting charges — or getting fired, or suiciding. Destruction by investigation.

    Is Coulter claiming:

    1. Not many people were damaged this way
    2. It wasn’t McCarthy who did it
    3. They were all guilty

    We know it can be done. We saw Starr and Gingrich do it. And they weren’t even accusing their targets of being Communists — just of ‘concealing evidence’ about a blow job.

  130. turndownobama
    point taken
    some were ny times stories some were abridged from other now defunct papers

    ———————–

    So we can’t check whether Coulter did her abridging honestly. Even if the NYT stories are available, we’d have to read the whole of each story to find out if she chose her quotes honestly or out of context.

    Most important — we have no way to know what stories (even in NYT) she may have ignored altogether! Unless we start from scratch and search for everything in that period about McCarthy.

    I’m certainly not going to trust Coulter’s conclusion, considering her record of being wrong about the Clintons and other things.

    I was born in the early 1940s. I HEARD those radio broadcasts. I remember my mother being angry about McCarthy buillying people with his questioning.

  131. By the way from Labor Day, Rasmussen is only polling by likely voters, so we will see some dynamic changes from then.

  132. Awesome, the crack in support of the Fraud and his Hell Care Bill just before an election. Go Big Dawg!!!!

    ——

    HillaryforTexas
    September 4th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    HA!!!! Big Dawg takes a swipe at Obama’s crappy Health Care Deform:

    Clinton said McMahon should get reelected, praising him as the kind of “independent” official he liked working with on Capitol Hill when he was president.

    The former president also gave McMahon credit for voting against health care reform, saying that he was acting in the interests of the state, not political expediency, when he did it.

    “Our hospitals face real problems under this health care bill,” Clinton said of New York.

  133. It’s not a matter of what YOU think is ‘ludicrous and dishonest’. The nature of a fetus is a matter of opinion. Each person has a right to have her own opinion — and to act on it.

    I have seen a devout Jewish scholar argue that ‘life’ begins with the first breath — as in Genesis.

    *sigh* Thanks for ignoring my attempt to be reasonable, and taking it back to: “It’s my opinion that a baby 3 seconds from being born is not human yet, whereas 3 seconds after birth it is, and MY opinion is JUST as valid as yours!”

    That’s just self-evidently wrong. The science and observation would indicate that yes, that’s a human life at 8 months. One may as well say one can’t “prove” that a black man is just as human as a white man. Maybe not with an empirical equation, but the facts are pretty damn self-evident in both cases.

    At least I’m honest in my struggle to balance women’s liberties with life, and I take responsibility for and own up to the fact that yes, sometimes one must end a life to preserve the woman’s liberty. It’s so much easier to just shut your eyes and say “It’s not a life until I say it is, so it doesn’t matter!”

  134. GOP Vows to Ramp Up Investigations of Obama Administration If It Wins House

    By Jim Angle
    Published September 04, 2010 | FoxNews.com

    If Republicans regain control of the House in November, some have vowed to launch investigations into controversies that Democrats have tried to ignore, including the New Black Panther voter intimidation case and the activities of the community activist group ACORN.

    “It’s very clear that House Republicans are going to use their oversight powers when they elected. There’s no question about it,” said GOP strategist Ron Bonjean who is a former Capitol Hill aide.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., has been pushing for an investigation of whether the White House unlawfully offered a job to Rep. Joe Sestak so he wouldn’t run against Sen. Arlen Specter in the Democratic Senate primary in Pennsylvania.

    Issa, the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said a clear reading of the laws suggests a crime has been committed.

    “And I believe they committed a crime,” Issa said.

    Issa pushed for an investigation into the shenanigans at the Minerals Management Service long before the BP oil spill. He also pressed for a probe into the FDA and food safety prior to the recent egg recall.

    Those inquiries are not partisan but Democrats warn their supporters that Republicans will go crazy if they win control of the House.

    “It’s pretty clear that a lot of them are chomping at the bit to do the kind of investigations ala Clinton-style impeachment hearing and I don’t think people want to go back to that,” said Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    Rep. Dan Burton went after the Clinton White House with a vengeance, using 1,052 subpoenas from 1997 t0 2002.

    “There’s a better use of our tax dollars than chasing partisan cheap shots using the power of the congressional subpoena,” said Lanny Davis, who served in the White House legal counsel’s office under President Clinton.

    Bonjean said it’s unlikely that Republicans will go after the Obama White House with as much intensity as they did in the 1990s because he argues the Clinton probes backfired on them when Clinton’s popularity actually rose.

    But Davis says both parties tend to overplay their hand, pointing to the three Democratic investigations of President Reagan’s Labor secretary, Ray Donovan.

    “Railroaded out of Washington, finally indicted and then acquitted in less than an hour, ” Davis said.

    So what would Republicans do if they regain control? Issa aides say he’s not focused on skewering the Obama White House, that he and Republicans are focused instead on legitimate issues of oversight – to keep the federal bureaucracy from abusing its power.

    “They don’t want to come in there and yahoo it for the next two years and wait on the next presidential elections,” said former Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., who chaired the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. “They have learned the lessons from ’94.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/04/gop-vows-ramp-investigations-obama-administration-wins-house/

  135. I wasn’t so crazy about the swagged valances over the drapes in Bill’s oval office (though that was all the style at the time), but other than that, I LOVED the decor. The colors were bold and fabulous.

  136. At least I’m honest in my struggle to balance women’s liberties with life, and I take responsibility for and own up to the fact that yes, sometimes one must end a life to preserve the woman’s liberty.

    =======

    Sorry, but your position IS a matter of opinion. You can’t limit other women’s choices in that way. It would lead to the deadline being pushed further and further back. Some people think that any fertilized egg is ‘a human’.

  137. It amazes me that people who defend the mosque and scream for tolerance are quiet when it comes to the Christian religion and defending pro-life and traditional marriage. Never hear the defense for them.

  138. turndown, saying that going through the birth canal transforms something that was not a human being 5 minutes ago into now suddenly a human being is magical thinking and refusal to look at facts, not merely an “opinion”. What changed? By what definition or evidence was it not human 5 minutes ago, but now is?

    I prefer to deal in truth. I understand the very real fear that if one admits that at any gestational point whatsoever this is a human life, some will use that to push further. I do understand and empathize with that concern. But truth is truth, whether someone is going to use that truth against my side or not. I won’t change the truth just because a lie better supports my argument. I’ll find ways to support my argument that do not involve flying in the face of evidence. I’m sick to death of “justifiable lies” in political debate.

    So you can think I’m a sellout, or anti-woman, or whatever you want to think. Or maybe you suspect I’ve gone to “the other side”. Nope. The right probably will still regard me as advocating the right to murder, because I propose that life does not automatically trump a woman’s liberty. I just don’t care anymore whether I’m off anybody’s plantation. One thing 2008 did is free me to finally think ENTIRELY for myself. To examine what I actually think, observe what I actually see, rather than pick a party line and stick to it, whether it be a liberal or feminist line or whatever.

    So don’t tell me that the reason the truth cannot be the truth is because it might give the other side advantage and hurt my cause. I no longer apply any ideological litmus tests to truth, not even for causes that I believe in deeply and sincerely. I think I’m cured of that forever. I merely observe, and trust to my own innate reason. I’ve gone rogue. Feels great.

  139. henry
    September 4th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    I’m a christian, pro-choice and a believer in marriage equality. Being a christian doesn’t automatically mean anti-choice, and anti-marriage equality.

    PS the Democrats view, for the majority anyway, isn’t that life doesn’t begin until birth. That’s a bit absurd. The Dem view is much more inline with HillaryforTEXAS.

  140. JanH
    September 4th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    GOP Vows to Ramp Up Investigations of Obama Administration If It Wins House

    The better watch out for overreach. That will just piss the voters off.

  141. Yeah, this’ll pack them in the aisles……………….not, always a bad move to send out the woman when you are nowhere to be seen, it will be seen as hiding behind her skirt.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/us/politics/04michelle.html?_r=3&hpw

    First Lady Plans a Careful Return to the Campaign Trail

    WASHINGTON — After 18 months of careful image-making and bipartisanship, Michelle Obama is shifting course as first lady, stepping up her policy agenda and dipping into election-year politics to campaign and raise money for Democrats.

    Despite stinging criticism of her summer vacation to Spain with daughter Sasha — aides warned her not to go, and the backlash was fiercer than they had imagined — Mrs. Obama is the most popular member of her husband’s administration. Having worked to build good will through nonideological causes like fighting obesity and assisting military families, aides say, she is ready to spend some of her political capital to advance President Obama’s agenda — and her own.

    Her fresh burst of activity will begin the day after Labor Day, when daughters Malia and Sasha return to school. She will inaugurate a White House dance series on Tuesday, travel to New Orleans on Wednesday to start the second phase of Let’s Move!, her healthy eating campaign, and join her predecessor, Laura Bush, in Shanksville, Pa., on Sept. 11 to observe the ninth anniversary of the terrorist attacks.

    Behind the scenes, Mrs. Obama is planning to expand her work with military families this fall. And in a sign that she is extending her reach into foreign affairs, she will address the Clinton Global Initiative late this month.

  142. As we wrote in the early morning hours, this story has “legs”:

    http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2010/09/barack-who-bill-clinton-stumps-for.html

    From the sound of things here you would think Bill Clinton is still president and Barack Obama didn’t even exist. Such is life today for endangered Democrats facing slaughter at the polls in November.

    The above link quotes from a New York Post story (which indicates that at least one Big Media outlet is already pushing Bill Clinton’s critique):

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/bubba_nod_to_si_candidate_shot_across_ySAh9tquAQtvG6h8g4QGoJhttp://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/bubba_nod_to_si_candidate_shot_across_ySAh9tquAQtvG6h8g4QGoJ

    Bill Clinton strongly endorsed “independent” Staten Island Democrat Rep. Mike McMahon’s re-election bid yesterday — even saying it was OK for the incumbent to buck President Obama by voting against health-care reform.

    “The one thing you got to say about this guy is he has been truly independent; he is not partisan,” Clinton said while stumping for McMahon at Wagner College.

    “He has not voted for the president on every issue. On health care, for example, we New Yorkers have a special problem. We have a lot of immigrants here who are undocumented, and our hospitals claim real problems under this health-care bill,” Clinton added.

    The former president said McMahon “wants to fix it the right way” while Republicans want to put the insurance companies in charge of health care.

    “When I was president, I loved congressman like Mike, people who didn’t always vote for me but were always thinking and listened to the evidence and looked for solutions,” Clinton said.

    Clinton’s backing of McMahon during a rally attended by 1,600 was a boost for the incumbent, who caught flak from Democratic activists for voting nay on the health-care overhaul.

    McMahon is expected to face a tough general election against a Republican challenger in the conservative-leaning district, which voted for Republican John McCain over Obama in the 2008 presidential race.

    McMahon, while appearing alongside Clinton, did not utter the name “Obama” at all during his speech.

    Meanwhile, Clinton steered clear of the controversy surrounding the proposed mosque near Ground Zero. He repeatedly ducked the issue when The Post asked him whether the mosque and Islamic community center known as Park51 should be built two blocks from the World Trade Center site.

    Clinton, whose reputation for skirt chasing is legendary, drew laughs when he said, “The great thing about having a wife as secretary of State who only comes home on weekends is . . .”

    He quickly followed up with “I’m home a lot, so I watch television for the first time in my life.”

  143. mj
    I am not christian, not a woman and not a heterosexual. I cannot comprehend what it is to be a woman and make that choice, but i vehemently defend her right to do so.
    I think marriage is assinine. Should be between two people and their god. The government should recognize unions in my book only for tax purposes. Two same gender people spend their lives together and must pay estate taxes when one dies. Yet an eighty year old man marries a twenty year old babe and dies a year later and she gets it all tax free?

  144. Ginsberg does believe there is an obvious right to privacy in the Constitution. It’s implied over and over again in the Constitution. She didn’t believe Roe was on shaky ground. Rather she believed it would have set off less of a fire storm had it been argued more precisely as an issue of women’s equality. She also felt the decision should have been narrower allowing for some state discretion, because she believed a more narrow decision would have resulted in less of a backlash.

  145. henry
    September 4th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Wait, what do you mean? Everyone one who inherits an estate over a million dollars(you know, which actually isn’t many people)pays an estate tax(except this year, thanks! GWB), so I’m not following. Did I miss something?

    Just so you know, there are christians who hold the same views as you do, I am one of them, and my church is extremely in tune with those issues.

  146. HfT,

    This could get into some very painful examples. Just please don’t put your opinion out as The Truth, whether you’re basing it on The Bible or on Modern Science. (Who do you think financed such ‘studies’?)

    I’m sorry, but you’ve invented a straw man. Nobody is going to request an abortion on a viable fetus 5 minutes from birth. If the fetus is viable, it would be a case for caeserian. — NOTE here I’m talking about ACTION not words. In fact by everyone’s custom, caeserain would be the procedure. People are still free to have their own opinion as to whether the ‘soul’ comes in after the caeserian when some sort of normal breathing finally begins (or some other development happens).

    You can’t argue backwards from your 5 minute strawman — AND connect it with ‘studies’ that claim to report pain, emotional reactions, etc at much earlier stages.

    (Some scientists put a dead salmon into an MRI machine and got such readings. 😉

    Sorry, but you’re mixing categories.

  147. admin
    September 4th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    I like what Bill said alot. Although that certainly won’t be the argument this guy’s Republican opponent uses against the health care bill. LOL.

  148. mj
    I seriously doubt that r v wade in any jeopardy of being overturned. I as stated before am pro-choice and I am not a legal scholar but I do believe the right to privacy was perhaps the weakest way to go about it. Since the case was decided a number of issues have come before the court and have affirmed the right to privacy. The Supreme Court has to follow precedent. Or am I mistaken. Please educate me if you think I am.

  149. “Behind the scenes, Mrs. Obama is planning to expand her work with military families this fall”

    Oh yes. I’m sure the military families will be ever so eager to listen to a woman who considers America mean and arrogant. She aleady tried this in 2008 and the idea fell apart after 2 military organization were very annoyed that she didn’t even go through them as they do most of the work.

  150. mj said:
    Ginsberg does believe there is an obvious right to privacy in the Constitution. It’s implied over and over again in the Constitution. She didn’t believe Roe was on shaky ground.

    ================

    That’s my impression. Remember, ‘privacy’ in this context does not just mean ‘secrecy.’ It means something much more basic, closer to ‘control over one’s own body.’

  151. turndownobama
    September 4th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    I agree that the suggestion that women in their final term try to get elective abortions is unfounded.

  152. henry
    September 4th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Agreed. The pols on both sides use the issue to get voters. Roe has been chipped away at but it ain’t going anywhere. It’s political fodder.

  153. And, yes, I think Ginsburg was correct. Couching Roe in privacy rather than equality made it easier to take political shots at.

  154. mj
    A spouse never pays an inheritance tax. If one spouse is worth 100 million and dies the survivor gets it all tax free if they are a man and a woman married and the will states that or one dies without a will. Two same sex partners do not get that. And it doesn’t have to be millions. A house where two people lived together for years is subject to tax even if jointly owned and bequethed.

  155. henry
    September 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Ofcourse, you are right. Damn, I hadn’t thought of that before. That’s total bs, and just another reason to support marriage equality.

  156. mj said:
    And, yes, I think Ginsburg was correct. Couching Roe in privacy rather than equality made it easier to take political shots at.

    =================

    How so? (Other than people not knowing what ‘privacy’ means in that context.)

    What was Ginsberg’s argument re ‘equality’, when?, and how sure are you about knowing her argument, in 1960s context?

  157. mj
    What about two people from different countries? An old wealthy pig can buy an eighteen year old bride from russia or china. And she gets citizenship. But a same sex couple of equal age cannot. Calling marriage sacred I think is a bit of a joke. marriage as a religous rite should be left under the purview of religious institutions. The government should only recognize unions and then only for tax purposes. Stay the fuck out of my diet , my bedroom, my charity and a woman’s womb.

  158. Just to clarify, I never once suggested that women go out and get 8 month abortions. I was responding specifically to the raised and oft-repeated point that it’s not a person til after birth. And I never claimed to know exactly when that line is crossed re: personhood. Only that it seems pretty self-evident that it is indeed sometime before birth. There is not much difference between a late-term baby inside the womb or out, other than lung and circulatory function. So unless one is to argue that it is bloodflow and breathing, rather than self-awareness and brain function, that make us “human”, then somewhere along that gestational continuum there emerges a person. Can I absolutely prove that? Nope. But then I cannot prove that I myself am anything other than a hunk of functioning meat with particular DNA, can I? The soul, self-awareness, personhood, etc is not given to easy definition.

    I agree that some studies are bogus that claim all sorts of things as early as 6 weeks, and are politically motivated. But as a nurse who has worked ob/gyn, I think I know a bit about fetal development, and no, a late-term fetus is not the same as a dead salmon with regard to physiological and brain function. The fact that there have been some bogus studies is no reason to pooh-pooh every neonatal study done, most of them done for NON-political reasons by pure medical and neurological researchers.

    The right wants to argue a very early hard and fast line on “humanity and personhood”, and the left wants to deny that this line is ever crossed at all until the baby is born. The truth is that it happens somewhere along the way, and we’ll likely never pin it down exactly.

  159. turndown
    please share with me/us the legal definition of privacy.
    Remember it is fluid and has changed quite a bit since the court ruled on birth control. But I am very interested in reading your interpretation.

  160. turndownobama
    September 4th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/29/politics/ginsburg.html

    Again, her argument wasn’t that there is no right to privacy enshrined in the Constitution, as many on the Right are fond of arguing, or that the choice of an abortion isn’t a matter of privacy. Rather her argument was only that the Roe decision would have been stronger as a matter of equality, and that a narrow decision would have been less subject to backlash.

  161. “and the left wants to deny that this line is ever crossed at all until the baby is born.” I don’t think that’s true. Few on the Left make that argument, and indeed states, including very liberal states, highly regulate abortion, which I think is reflective of views across the political spectrum.

  162. mj, thanks for the correction. I should have said SOME on the left (as evidenced here in this thread), not all. Indeed, not most.

  163. henry
    September 4th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Eh, I like marriage. I support marriage equality. What I have found is that one people were allowed to marry in MA, couples who long had civil unions in VT wanted to get married in MA. But, I’m fine with the government expecting civil unions as well.

  164. Seems to me a lot more focus needs to be placed on informing young girls/women on how not to get there in the first place. I deal with a small person everyday and the best playground in the area is the outdoor McDonald’s thing. It is absolutely heartbreaking to see so many kids raising kids. Emotionally ill prepared to deal with another human being. I have seen complete neglect physical and verbal abuse that would make your head spin. Screaming at a child that he/she is stupid. Ignoring your own multiple children while leaving them alone in an unattended area to go and smoke. From my perspective there is no greater abuse than neglect and I have witnessed so many many young mothers who utterly ignore their own kids. What chance do the kids have and what chance does that eighteen year old mother have.

  165. mj
    don’t have the energy right now to do the research but if I am not mistaken the world “marriage” under common law was akin to saying a woman was a man’s property.

  166. Two excellent posts by Paul Krugman:

    Rahmism
    Jon Cohn’s post about what the administration may be considering, and what it isn’t considering, makes we want to cry.

    Look: early on the administration had a political theory: it would win bipartisan legislative victories, and each success would make Republicans who voted no feel left out, so that they would vote for the next initiative, and so on. (By the way, read that article and weep: “The massive resistance Republicans posed to Clinton in 1993 is impossible to imagine today.” They really believed that.)

    This theory led to a strategy of playing it safe: never put forward proposals that might fail to pass, avoid highlighting the philosophical differences between the parties. There was never an appreciation of the risks of having policies too weak to do the job.

    And then it led the administration to keep claiming that the legislation it had gotten through was just right, long past the point when it was obvious that the policies were inadequate.

    And they’re still doing it. This is crazy: when you’re well down in the polls, minimal steps that won’t move the economy and won’t grab voters’ imagination are just a way of guaranteeing a devastating defeat.

    I can understand why the people who persuaded Obama to go for the capillaries might still be claiming that they have the right strategy; bu I don’t understand why Obama is still listening to them.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/rahmism/

    September 4, 2010, 11:44 am
    The Perils Of Government By Poll, 30s Edition
    In light of the way we actually got out of the Great Depression, it’s instructive — and depressing — to look at polling from that era. Two results from Gallup, in March 1938:

    Do you think government spending should be increased to help get business out of its present slump?
    Gallup Poll, Mar, 1938

    37% Yes

    63% No

    In your opinion which will do more to get us out of the depression: increase government spending, or reduce taxes on business?
    Gallup Poll (AIPO), Mar, 1938

    15% Increase government spending

    63% Reduce taxes on business

    21% No opinion

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/the-perils-of-government-by-poll-30s-edition/

  167. In haste. Sorry must do chores.

    “it happens somewhere along the way, and we’ll likely never pin it down exactly.”

    So imo you should not apply your ‘moral conflict’ framework to ALL women, as they have different opinions as to WHEN this happens.

    And you’re mixing categories. “The soul, self-awareness, personhood, etc is not given to easy definition.” You can’t even define what you’re talking about, much less prove it, so please don’t use physical ‘studies’ to claim some sort of proof of it — and call that ‘Truth.’

    Sorry no time to put this more gently.

  168. turndown, neurological, brain and other physical studies (lose the scare quotes) have long been employed in end of life scenarios to determine when the patient was no longer what we would consider a person, but merely a functioning body.

    They are no less applicable in neonates. Science addresses issues of consciousness and ethics all the time. Despite how you are trying to paint my musings, I am not some rabid anti-abortioner out to see women dying in back alleys. I actually find it both puzzling and instructional that you keep responding to me as if I were. As if asking very legitimate questions and pondering approaches to the value of human life vs. the preservation of liberties were an alarming thing.

  169. Wow wbboie
    Paul Simon. Chodochrome is one of my favorites. So intrigued by the mellow little man who created such beauty. The Boxer? yet he married Carrie Fisher and Edie Brickell. The guy is an enigma rolled in a conundrum.

  170. HillaryforTexas
    September 4th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
    ——————————-
    Practical? At this point in life I hope so. But the truth is not always. One thing I have learned however. Life is not a game of perfect. And half the trouble we see in the world comes from trying to make it one. Out of this delusion comes inquistions, French revolutions, political correctness and the stupid belief in a secular messiah–like Obama.

  171. Brian Williams Serenades Obama

    Who put the mosque
    In ground zero holocaust?
    Who put the rahm
    In the Ramadan ding dong?
    Who put the punk
    In the Jurno lister dump?
    Who put the dip
    In the brainless Modo shit?
    Who was that man? (Bambi)
    I’d like to kiss his(rhymes with hand)
    He helped me pose as
    Walter Cronkrite now (yeah!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIP9Dwzdt3g

  172. Call me paranoid but I find it really hard to believe that the Clinton 2012 video has only gotten 30k hits. I went to Alexa and did a little research on the sites that have the video featured. There is no way that it is only 30k. If youtube is playing with numbers are they not committing an intentional tort? Cause and effect seems pretty simple and obvious here. A systematic and deliberate attempt to manipulate and control.

  173. wbboei
    Doing a little research on intentional torts.
    Intent and verifiable damage seem to be the issues.
    Newspapers have been successfully sued in the past for providing intentionally misleading and damaging info. How can google be exempt? From what I have read it is the perception of the company that is the issue, Google yahoo and msn all place unverified ap stories on their home pages there by acting as de facto news organizations. manipulation of information holds them up to a standard involving public trust. Seems likea lot of manipulation has happened and the little boy wonders screwed up by posting prominently and regularly news from the ap.

  174. Meek is a decent guy and stayed with Hill/Bill to the end…he stands no shot against Crist or Rubio, so naturally, Obama wants another “yes” man in Charlie. I think Crist will pull it off as many dems will vote for him as a “moderate compared to Rubio….

  175. Moon

    What a freakin’ joke, MO is gonna raise money for her hubby so they can reap the benefits of the Oval office. Pushing her into stumping because he is TOAST!!!

    Desperado………..

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