Obama Becomes Nixon As The Nutroots Hatred Of White People And Bobby Kennedy Democrats Rises

Are we in the 1960s? Is Richard Nixon the current president? Are race politics the only defense of scoundrel Obama Dimocrats? We’re scratching our heads thinking we are in a time tunnel.

Tonight America will be subjected to another Barack Obama publicity stunt. The Obama publicity stunt to be staged tonight is a nationally televised speech on the Iraq War. We will not be surprised at any fairy tale or lie from Obama nor will we be surprised if Obama utters the Nixonian “Peace With Honor” as he proceeds with the George W. Bush Iraq withdrawal timetable.

This past weekend Obama borrowed from Richard Nixon when he declared he snubbed the Glenn Beck “Restoring Honor” rally in Washington, D.C. The Obamas were too busy on Martha’s Vineyard to bother with the hundreds of thousands massing in Washington.

Obama sounded Nixonesque. In 1969, after the anti-Vietnam War Moratorium, Richard Nixon, with more politeness and savvy than Barack Obama, also ignored Americans who raised their voices in the streets. In 1969 Richard Nixon declared he was listening, not to street protests, but to the great “Silent Majority” that eventually did lead him to reelection victory in 1972. Barack Obama must be hearing voices from an imaginary “silent majority” too but unlike in 1969 the “silent majority” is already in the streets and not so silent.

Richard Nixon thought there was a “silent majority” that supported his policies. The “dirty tricks” and unlawful methods Nixon deployed in 1972 were not necessary to win reelection because indeed a great many Americans supported Nixon. In contrast Barack Obama does not have majority support. Obama Dimocrats do not have majority support.

“Democrats thought things couldn’t get much worse on the electoral front — and then they went home to campaign.

A new Gallup poll released Monday shows Republicans with a record 10-point edge over Democrats on the “generic ballot” test — the question of whether voters prefer a Democratic or Republican congressional candidate. It’s the largest GOP polling edge at this stage in the 68 years of the generic ballot poll.

While party optimists say Democrats may cling to a small majority after the November election, an increasing number of Democratic strategists now say privately that they fear the House is already lost.

The Gallup poll, coming at the end of a brutal August for Democrats and President Barack Obama, reinforces the rapidly forming prevailing view that the horizon is as bleak for Democrats as it ever has been.[snip]

Worse for Democrats, the news comes after they’ve spent most of the last month on the campaign trail, touting their accomplishments for local communities and trying to remind voters of what life was like when George W. Bush was president.”

Whatever consent from the governed Obama and Obama Dimocrats extracted in November 2008 is now gone. The Culture of Corruption and the incompetence and the failures have drained consent away. There should also be no doubt now that there is a racial component to opposition to Obama and his Obama Dimocrats – however that racial component is not the one Big Media indulges in. The racial animus comes from Obama and Obama Dimocrats against ordinary Americans. In the very same interview in which Barack Obama on Sunday declared his disdain for the “Restoring Honor” rally, Obama again expressed his contempt for “bitter” and “clingy” small town America.

There cannot now be any doubt that “small town America”, “bitter” and “clingy” are Obama references to White people, particularly working class White people.

This past Sunday The Confluence published a retrospective of “best of/worst of” columns. One of the mocked columns is Changing of the Guard written by Chris Bowers, formerly of the website (he’s now at DailyKooks) we refer to as “Nothing Left”.

At The Confluence, MaBlue2 wrote this about “Changing of the Guard”: “I challenge anyone out there to come up with something this guffaw inducing.” We don’t think this is a “guffaw inducing” article but rather a nausea inducing article. Indeed that article is one of the clearest expositions of the “Mistake In ’08” we have written so often about (and we have much more to write about). Here are excerpts from “Changing of the Guard” written on May 8, 2008 to celebrate the supposed triumph of Obama and Obamaism:

“So, unless Obama somewhat surprisingly does not become the next President of the United States, the Democratic Party will experience its first changing of the guard since the late 1980’s. What differences will be in store? Here are the three major changes I expect:

1. Cultural Shift: Out with Bubbas, up with Creatives: There should be a major cultural shift in the party, where the southern Dems and Liebercrat elite will be largely replaced by rising creative class types. Obama has all the markers of a creative class background, from his community organizing, to his Unitarianism, to being an academic, to living in Hyde Park to shopping at Whole Foods and drinking PBR. These will be the type of people running the Democratic Party now, and it will be a big cultural shift from the white working class focus of earlier decades. Given the demographics of the blogosphere, in all likelihood, this is a socioeconomic and cultural demographic into which you fit. Culturally, the Democratic Party will feel pretty normal to netroots types. It will consistently send out cultural signals designed to appeal primarily to the creative class instead of rich donors and the white working class.

2. Policy Shift: Out with the DLC, up with technocratic wonks. My sense of Obama and his policy team is overwhelmingly one of technocratic, generally less overtly ideological professional policy types. [snip]

3. Coalition reorganization: Out with party silos, in with squishy goo-goos. In addition to a shift in culture and policy focus, I also expect a different approach to coalition building. A long-standing Democrats approach of transactional politics with different issue and demographic silos in the party shift toward an emphasis on good government (goo goo) approaches.”

While there is a high level of stupidity, dementia, and delusion in that article there is one huge triumph. The White Working Class have indeed been jack-booted out of the Obama Dimocratic Party with forethought and purpose. The elderly have also been booted out, or walked out, of the grand coalition which was once the FDR/Hillary Clinton Democratic Party.

While the malice aforethought of the purge of Working Class Whites is something we have repeatedly written about (see HERE for example regarding the White Working Class and Health Care, and HERE for the theoretical justifications for the Obama “situation comedy” coalition) there is something much deeper at play here. There is a profound hatred of White People.

At every turn in the political debate, Obama Dimocrats especially those ensonced in Hopium Dens, shout “racism”. It’s race this, race that. There’s always a newly discovered “dog whistle” heard by the Obama JournoListers and protection squads. There’s always some new and super secret “racist code language” deciphered. But there is never a discussion of the hate displayed towards White people every day in the Hopium Dens and in Big Media.

Those predominately White “honky” Big Blog White Boys sure hate white people. This “creative class” thinks of Black people like gentle pets to be patted on the head and love to indulge in the self-hate of anti-White bigotry.

The “honky” Big Blog White Boys are frat-housed together shouting insults and mooning Tea Party activists (because the Tea Parties demonstrate they are capable of organizing street protests unlike the Big Blog Boys). These well educated White boys must know that adding groups to a coalition is the smart way to politically organize (not their politics of subtraction of groups and division). Knowing in politics you add, not subtract, these Big Blog Boys and Obama Dimocrats persisted in their hate of White people and goal of driving out the White Working Class from consideration as a coalition member in the Obama Dimocratic Party.

In earlier articles we discussed how Hillary Clinton could have “healed the breach” in the Democratic Party caused by the 1964 Civil Rights Act. We wrote about how Lyndon Johnson after signing the great Act continued to fight for White Working Class votes and how Lady Bird Johnson toured the South in pursuit of those aims. But the well educated White Boys from Big Blogs insisted Obama be president and that Whites are racists. Why is this?

Sexism and misogyny explain part of the spiteful rage. But in the attacks on Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin there is a strong class hatred exhibited. Both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin appealed strongly to White Working Class voters and therefore they became objects of derision to the Obama Left. It wasn’t always this way.

In 1968 Bobby Kennedy visited Hazard County Kentucky as part of his Appalachia tour. Bobby Kennedy, with all his many massive faults, is mourned in large part because he too could have united Black people and the White Working Class “towards a more perfect Union”.



Today a politician who inspires White people is a target of suspicion and hatred – from the Obama Left and the Nutroots Nation of Nutopia. The hate of White people extends to all aspects of American life from these nuts. The creatures of hate hiding at the Big Blogs were created by the Howard Dean campaign and they will not allow any discussion of race without polluting such a discussion with the “racist” tag. Shelby Steele, notes the irony of Dean’s creations turning against him:

“In 2004, when Howard Dean reached out to “guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks,” Shelby Steele wrote that this was “absolutely verboten. Racial identity is simply forbidden to whites in America” because of their history and white guilt.”

“Breathing While White” is now a crime – ask a black man – ask Kelefa Sanneh. Kelefa Sanneh wrote an article in the New Yorker that only a black man could write because a white person would immediately get the “racist” tag on the toe. In the “Beyond The Pale“, published this past April, the hatred of White people was discussed:

“But what of it? Why is it that, from Christian Lander to Jon Stewart, a diagnosis of whiteness is often delivered, and received, as a kind of accusation? The answer is that the diagnosis is often accompanied by an implicit or explicit charge of racism. It’s become customary to suppose that a measure of discrimination is built into whiteness itself, a racial category that has often functioned as a purely negative designation: to be white in America is to be not nonwhite, which is why it was possible, in 1961, for a white woman from Kansas living in Hawaii to give birth to a black baby. In a marvellously splenetic essay, “On Being White . . . And Other Lies,” James Baldwin argued that America had, really, “no white community”—only a motley alliance of European immigrants and their descendants, who made a “moral choice” (even if they didn’t realize it) to join a synthetic racial élite. And, in the nineteen-nineties, a cohort of scholars took up Baldwin’s charge, popularizing a field of research that came to be known as whiteness studies. In 1994, the white labor historian David R. Roediger published an incendiary volume, “Towards the Abolition of Whiteness.” Paying special attention to unions and strikes, he traced the unsteady growth of American whiteness, a category that eventually included many previous identities that had once been considered marginal: Irish, Italian, Polish, Jewish. “It is not merely that whiteness is oppressive and false; it is that whiteness is nothing but oppressive and false,” he wrote. “Whiteness describes, from Little Big Horn to Simi Valley, not a culture but precisely the absence of culture. It is the empty and therefore terrifying attempt to build an identity based on what one isn’t and on whom one can hold back.” In his view, fighting racism wasn’t enough; white people who wanted to oppose oppression would have to do battle with whiteness itself. Nearly two decades later, amid a rancorous debate over our first black President, the idea of abolishing whiteness seems no less tantalizing—and no less remote.”

“Driving While Black” is a closely watched phenomenon but few pay attention to “Breathing While White”. Read Sanneh’s essay then read Fratboy Whiteboy David Sirota at Nothing Left:

“I’m finishing up my book right now, and am on a chapter about race and white privilege. During my research, I came upon this lengthy article on the Tea Party movement in the latest edition of the American Prospect. It provides a telling (if mundane) example of how in our persistently racist politics, all roads – even “progressive” ones – always seem to lead back to deifying white privilege.[snip]

In other words, instead of building the strength of progressives’ burgeoning multicultural coalition through overtly anti-racist themes that explicitly challenge white privilege, the American Prospect asks progressives to fight white privilege by immediately privileging political messages that coddle privileged whites – that is, by trimming the progressive message into one that makes sure not to offend/counter white resentment. This, despite the resounding electoral success of progressives’ multicultural coalition in the last two elections, and despite Census data showing America will soon be a majority minority (read: non-white) country.[snip]

But that’s the whole point: White privilege in America today is so omniscient, so assumed, so embedded in everything, that it is even forwarded by some liberal voices as the answer to the very problems it creates. And the fact that so many of the liberal voices that inadvertently perpetuate these rhetorical parameters (particularly magazines, pundits and think tanks inside the cloistered Beltway) are catering to a mostly white privileged audience of elites means that they rarely – if ever – are called out for their contribution to an inherently racist paradigm.”

For David Sirota “White People Need Not Apply” – they are “racists” and are obsessed with “racist White privilege.” All White people are “racists” except of course the well educated and very privileged white frat boys who write for predominantly white Big Media and predominantly white Big Blogs.

To these white frat boys on Big Blogs, Bobby Kennedy is nothing but a dead “racist” and nothing but a honky loaded up with White privilege. If Sirota and his readers are right that America will soon be a “majority minority” country – White people may ironically have to demand Affirmative Action in hiring in order to overcome the “racist” prejudice of the Big Blog types in “majority minority” America. The logic of these racist against white people racist white boys defies logic. Bobby Kennedy saw the white poor of Appalachia but Sirota only sees “racists” with “white privilege”. And then the Sirota’s and the other white Big Blog Boys sit back and ponder why white people won’t vote for them.

Senator Jim Webb recently wrote about affirmative action programs historically and in the contemporary world.

“Forty years ago, as the United States experienced the civil rights movement, the supposed monolith of White Anglo-Saxon Protestant dominance served as the whipping post for almost every debate about power and status in America. After a full generation of such debate, WASP elites have fallen by the wayside and a plethora of government-enforced diversity policies have marginalized many white workers. The time has come to cease the false arguments and allow every American the benefit of a fair chance at the future.[snip]

In an odd historical twist that all Americans see but few can understand, many programs allow recently arrived immigrants to move ahead of similarly situated whites whose families have been in the country for generations. These programs have damaged racial harmony. And the more they have grown, the less they have actually helped African-Americans, the intended beneficiaries of affirmative action as it was originally conceived.

Lyndon Johnson’s initial program for affirmative action was based on the 13th Amendment and on the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which authorized the federal government to take actions in order to eliminate “the badges of slavery.” Affirmative action was designed to recognize the uniquely difficult journey of African-Americans. This policy was justifiable and understandable, even to those who came from white cultural groups that had also suffered in socio-economic terms from the Civil War and its aftermath.

Those who came to this country in recent decades from Asia, Latin America and Africa did not suffer discrimination from our government, and in fact have frequently been the beneficiaries of special government programs. The same cannot be said of many hard-working white Americans, including those whose roots in America go back more than 200 years.

Contrary to assumptions in the law, white America is hardly a monolith. And the journey of white American cultures is so diverse (yes) that one strains to find the logic that could lump them together for the purpose of public policy.”

It’s Breathing While White.

“Policy makers ignored such disparities within America’s white cultures when, in advancing minority diversity programs, they treated whites as a fungible monolith. Also lost on these policy makers were the differences in economic and educational attainment among nonwhite cultures. Thus nonwhite groups received special consideration in a wide variety of areas including business startups, academic admissions, job promotions and lucrative government contracts.”

The response from Obama Dimocrats to any argument on race is “code”. As Sanneh writes,

“The problem with a fixation on “code words” is that you can start to see them everywhere. At one point, Roediger analyzes the politics of America in the nineteen-seventies through the prism of “such racial ‘code words’ as crime, busing, welfare, and taxes.” Taxes! Is there any hotly debated political topic that couldn’t be considered, in some context, a code word? [snip]

And is there any way for a white politician to criticize a black President in front of a disproportionately white audience and be certain that he or she isn’t, however inadvertently, appealing to a sense of racial solidarity?

James Taranto, in the Wall Street Journal perhaps has the answer to the anti-white hatred of the Big Blog/Big Media white boys. Taranto writing about the Mosque of Doom employs a word which is applicable to the “honky” Big Blog Boys hatred

“What is the nature of this contempt? In part it is the snobbery of the cognitive elite, exemplified by a recent New York Times Web column by Timothy Egan called “Building a Nation of Know-Nothings”–or by the viciousness directed at Sarah Palin, whose folksy demeanor and state-college background seem terribly déclassé not just to liberals but to a good number of conservatives in places like New York City.

In more cerebral moments, the elitists of the left invoke a kind of Marxism Lite to explain away opinions and values that run counter to their own. Thus Barack Obama’s notorious remark to the effect that economic deprivation embitters the proles, so that they cling to guns and religion. [snip]

The liberal elites cannot comprehend common sense, and, incredibly, they think that’s a virtue. After all, common sense is so common.

The British philosopher Roger Scruton has coined a term to describe this attitude: oikophobia. Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: “the disposition, in any conflict, to side with ‘them’ against ‘us’, and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably ‘ours.'”

The Oikophobe, or “Oik” is a familiar character to Hillary Supporters and Sarah Palin supporters:

“The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism.”

Sirota, Bowers, the DailyKooks, the Head Kook, the “creative class” are Oiks.

“Yet the oiks’ vision of themselves as an intellectual aristocracy violates the first American principle ever articulated: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal . . .”

This cannot be reconciled with the elitist notion that most men are economically insecure bitter clinging intolerant bigots who need to be governed by an educated elite. Marxism Lite is not only false; it is, according to the American creed, self-evidently false. That is why the liberal elite finds Americans revolting.”

Americans are revolting but not in the Sirota, Bowers, “creative class”, DailyKooks, understanding of the term. Americans are revolting and in November the “creative class” of Kooks is going to witness an all out electoral REVOLT. It can’t come soon enough.

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325 thoughts on “Obama Becomes Nixon As The Nutroots Hatred Of White People And Bobby Kennedy Democrats Rises

  1. Did anyone see Obama’s address to the troops….he stated “for as long as I am President”, blah, blah, blah.
    That was a shocking statement for me to hear….maybe he is going to throw in the towel!

  2. Bravo Admin. I have puzzled over the self-hatred and racism of Big Media and clueluess youth for many years.

  3. US calls Kiryat Arba shooting ‘a tragedy’
    By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER
    08/31/2010 22:04

    The US labeled the deadly shooting of four Israelis in Kiryat Arba by a Palestinian gunman Tuesday “a tragedy” while urging both sides not to take steps that would jeopardize direct peace negotiations set to be launched Thursday.

    “Any time one human being takes out a weapon and fires and kills other human beings it’s a tragedy,” said State Department spokesman PJ Crowley following the attack, adding that the US still didn’t know the circumstances surrounding the incident.

    “We are cognizant that there could be external events that can have an impact on the environment. We also are cognizant that there may well be actors in the region who are deliberately making these kinds of attacks in order to sabotage the process,” he said. “We are very aware that as we go forward in this process, not everyone sees this in the same way, and there are those who will do whatever they can to disrupt or derail the process.

    ================================================
    Now, if Israeli forces killed 4 “innocent PALS”, the world would be universally condeming her and starting and demanding a new Goldstone report for war crimes. But here, we get a weak , tepid, and disproportinately insentive response form our government.

  4. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nathan-burchfiel/2010/08/31/overwhelmingly-white-media-criticize-conservative-rallies-overwhel

    As noted by the Daily Caller’s Jim Treacher, much of the coverage had a common thread: describing the crowd as “overwhelmingly white.”

    While the term was certainly used in coverage of Beck’s rally, it’s not a new label. “Overwhelmingly white” is a prime example of the media’s groupthink on Beck, Tea Parties, and the conservative movement in general. Virtually every major “mainstream” media outlet has used the phrase in just the past year to describe conservative events.

    But even as the media criticize Tea Party and other conservative rallies for an apparent lack of diversity, they struggle to bring minority voices into their own operations.

    All three broadcast networks have described the Tea Parties as “overwhelmingly white.” So have CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the Agence France Presse, The Washington Post, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, National Journal and US News & World Report. Many of those organizations are the very ones the news industry discusses as having failed to make diversity goals for staff.

    Here are a few examples.

    * “The crowds turning out for the Tea Party Express rallies are overwhelmingly white.” – Ed Lavandera, CNN “American Morning” March 31, 2010.
    * “The crowd is still overwhelmingly white.” – Jessica Yellin, CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” April 15, 2010.
    * “The crowd that greeted Palin did nothing to contradict the common description of Tea Party supporters as overwhelmingly white and mostly older.” – Ina Jaffe, NPR “Weekend Edition Sunday” March 28, 2010.
    * “They are overwhelmingly white and Anglo …” – USA Today July 2, 2010.

    That doesn’t take into account other ways to say the same thing. In coverage of Beck’s rally, some outlets opted for the less aggressive “predominantly white” label, while others described the crowd as “nearly all-white.”

    As Brad Wilmouth reported on NewsBusters, ABC’s Tahman Bradley called the crowd “almost all white,” and suggested that presence of Martin Luther King Jr.’s niece, Dr. Alveda King, as a speaker was “an obvious effort to try to show inclusion.”

    The charge leveled at conservative demonstrators is especially ironic given the accusers. The media are notoriously “overwhelmingly white.” The American Society of Newspaper Editors reported in April 2010 that minorities total only 13.26 percent of newsroom staff, a decline from the previous year. The report found 465 newspapers have no minorities on their full-time staffs, a number that “has been growing since 2006.”

    The organization launched a program in 1978 that “challenged the newspaper industry to achieve racial parity by 2000 or sooner.” It failed. That goal has since been moved to 2025 because, “Over three decades, the annual survey has shown that while there has been progress, the racial diversity of newsrooms does not come close to the fast-growing diversity in the U.S. population as a whole.”

    Washington Post ombudsman Andrew Alexander in March reported on internal criticism of the newspaper’s diversity. “All told, journalists of color comprise about 24 percent of the newsroom, comfortably above the ASNE census average of roughly 13 percent in recent years.” However, he added, “Minorities are 43 percent of The Post’s circulation area, and a large part of the region is edging toward ‘majority minority’ status.” So how has the diversity-challenge Post handled the Tea Party?

    * “But, [Tea Party rally attendee Jeff Link] says, looking at the crowd, which is overwhelmingly white and middle-aged, ‘it saddens me not to see this gathering more diverse.'” – Feb. 6, 2010.
    * “The new poll offers a portrait of tea party supporters as overwhelmingly white, mostly conservative and generally disapproving of Obama.” – Feb. 11, 2010
    * “They are overwhelming white (94 percent) and conservative (73 percent).”- April 2, 2010
    * “Tea Party activists, like Perot voters, are overwhelmingly white.” – April 18, 2010

    The New York Times reported in January that minority journalists appear to be suffering the most from newsroom cutbacks. But the report on journalism’s diversity issues wasn’t nearly as smug as a Feb. 16 report about Tea Parties:

    * “Gazing out at his overwhelmingly white audience, Mr. Mack felt the need to say, ‘This meeting is not racist.'”

    Newspapers aren’t alone. The third annual Television Newsroom Management Diversity Census found that “persons of color” only make up 12.6 percent of staff in TV newsrooms. A 2007 survey by the Radio Television Digital News Association found that minorities make up 21.5 percent of the television news workforce – higher than print but still short of the 34.5 percent of the population. Only 10.2 percent of broadcast news directors are minorities.

    But that didn’t stop broadcast outlets from pointing the finger at conservatives.

    * “Do you have any concerns when you look out at the crowds and they’re mostly, well, overwhelmingly white people?” – Terry Moran, ABC “Nightline” Nov. 2, 2009.
    * “You know, one thing to keep in mind about the Tea Party is that it is an overwhelmingly white movement.” – Ron Brownstein, NBC “Meet the Press” April 18, 2010.

    The long-running discussion over how to include more minorities in the news media, from introspective articles to industry-insider analysis and advice, seems to have produced less-than-impressive results. Maybe members of the media should recall the old adage about glass houses.

  5. Confloyd, I’m with you on Clinton’s decor compared to BO and honestly I’m not being “biased”. But perhaps the whimpy new rug reflects Obama perfectly. But I like bold colors and bold leaders like Hillary.

  6. jbstonesfan
    August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
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    I’m disgusted by their response. Tepid is right.

  7. confloyd
    August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    Here’s the new Oval Office renovations…that we taxpayers footed the bill for….looks like it is either all in gold or beige…I can’t tell for sure.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Oval-Office-Renovations/ss/events/pl/083110ovaloffice#photoViewer=endslideshow
    ________________

    Actually, Confloyd, the link you posted has an arrow that shows 15 different views and yes, Obama’s Oval Office is very bland looking. They replaced Chuchill’s bust with a bust of Martin Luther King.

  8. On RCP only a 1.5 point spread in disapproval/approval rate. After tonights speech and fake peace photo opps, he may get back to 50%.

  9. I no longer recognize the media with terms such as honorable and truthful. Once again I think that Murrow is turning in his grave.

    “As Brad Wilmouth reported on NewsBusters, ABC’s Tahman Bradley called the crowd “almost all white,” and suggested that presence of Martin Luther King Jr.’s niece, Dr. Alveda King, as a speaker was “an obvious effort to try to show inclusion.”

    ——————

    What did the organizers do? Kidnap her and force her to come to the event? The media spin for this event is shameful.

  10. Beck is an ass, but there is no denying that he had a large crowd that had some diversity. He is a opportunist who is making tons of moeny and I do not belive a thing he says(see also Hannity, O’Riley, Olberman, and the rest of their ilk).

  11. I have often said that we lost more when Bobby was killed than even when President Kennedy was killed.

    I think the Democratic Party lost it’s soul when Bobby died. It has never recovered. And under present ownership, never will.

    I can only hope and work toward the day when the FDR coalition has a new rebirth. Thanks to Hillary 44 for keeping the dream alive. I appreciate you.

  12. Great post admin!

    I can attest to the fact that the racist label that originates from the White elite class is pointless, baseless, and without merit. As a society, we will lag behind the world as long as that portends to be the case. There is no doubt that the racial history of this country is blotted by the fact that this country was built on the backs of Africans stolen from their homes. That said, when a white person tells me that my not supporting Obumbles makes me a racist, I respond only with hearty laughter. ‘In your long history of being discriminated against, what experience does my not supporting Obumble’s policies mirror?’ is my normal response. That usually shuts them up.

    Then to hear from my own kind that being a Hillary supporter makes me an Uncle Tom, I get mad. WE should be the MOST critical of Obumbles. He is the standard bearer that all subsequent black potential presidential candidates will be judged against. Yet his continual bastardization of liberal philosophy means nothing to them. And I will not forgive them nor will I forget.

    I am finding the trick is to focus on policy. I get a ton of people at work that revert from the start to the racist meme from the beginning. In those cases, as soon as a demonstration of the similarities between Obumbles and Bush, the racist stuff goes away.

    Asshats…

    Hillary 2012

  13. Now this is going to gut Obama and his supporters bigtime. Just in breaking, this will make uncomfortable reading for Dem officials :

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html

    Dem Pollsters PPP : We’ll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there’s one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they’d rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

    Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama’s preferable (3%.)

    A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it’s probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

    There’s not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats…and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there’s going to be a very, very steep price to pay.

    …………………

    I think on that result alone the Dems have lost Ohio for sure.

  14. andyp
    August 31st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    confloyd
    August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    Here’s the new Oval Office renovations…that we taxpayers footed the bill for….looks like it is either all in gold or beige…I can’t tell for sure.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Oval-Office-Renovations/ss/events/pl/083110ovaloffice#photoViewer=endslideshow
    ________________

    Actually, Confloyd, the link you posted has an arrow that shows 15 different views and yes, Obama’s Oval Office is very bland looking. They replaced Chuchill’s bust with a bust of Martin Luther King.
    *************

    Amazing he didn’t thin

  15. andyp
    August 31st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    confloyd
    August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    Here’s the new Oval Office renovations…that we taxpayers footed the bill for….looks like it is either all in gold or beige…I can’t tell for sure.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Oval-Office-Renovations/ss/events/pl/083110ovaloffice#photoViewer=endslideshow
    ________________

    Actually, Confloyd, the link you posted has an arrow that shows 15 different views and yes, Obama’s Oval Office is very bland looking. They replaced Chuchill’s bust with a bust of Martin Luther King.
    *************

    Amazing he didn’t thin

  16. I am having difficulty with this new keyboard.As I was saying, amazing he didn’t think he could “add” MLK’s bust instead of sending back, overseas, to our closest partner, the bust of a great man, who just happened to be 1/2 American, kind of like Hussein. Do ya think he was trying to tell the original “slave holders” a big F/U? That the WHITE man was no longer in power?

    By the way, I thought Bobby was the best of the Kennedy’s. He went through something spiritually powerful when JFK was killed. He went one way and Ed went another… till BC came along, I voted Dem just out of family habit. no more….

  17. Uh, oh. Obama’s promising to “turn the page” again. This time the page to be turned is Iraq. Last time Obama turned the page was on the issues of the 1990s and 1960s. How did that work out? Obama assuring Americans he is going to turn the page means ‘prepare for some new and unexpected Iraq disasters’.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama

    President Barack Obama is declaring an end to the U.S. combat role in Iraq after more than seven years of war, saying the country’s future now is up to its own people. The president, who opposed the war as a senator, says: “It is time to turn the page.”

  18. Big News

    http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/08/31/joe-miller-set-to-win-alaska-senate-primary/

    Sources in Alaska have informed Big Government that the trend in the count of absentee ballots makes it virtually impossible that Sen. Murkowski will overtake Joe Miller in the GOP Senate Primary. A trusted and well-placed operative told BG:

    It’s over.

    Sources have also revealed that the Murkowski campaign is scheduling a conference call this afternoon (Alaska time) with her entire campaign team to discuss next steps. There is additional information we hope to be able to publicize soon. Stay tuned for updates.

  19. Speeches like this are what you do when you inherit a surge you disagreed with and it turns out better than you thought. They are what you do when you are a fuck off and would rather run your mouth than work at the hard task of governing. They are what you do when nobody in swing districts wants your ass within 200 of them. You play to the pollsters and the press corps and the elites. But it is irrelevant. It just makes the rest of us madder, and there are more of us than there are of them. I skipped the speech. No time for liars.

  20. Murkowski threatening to run as a write in as she is too late to file as an independent….good luck with that, write-ins have to spell the name perfectly to be counted and if its not on the ballot, most people wont bother, she’s stuffed.

  21. Problem is, the iraq war is not finished, leaving 50,000 “troops” does mean it is over, its still going to be a mess and the fundamentalist muslims will over-run Iraq in no time.

  22. Sources in Alaska have informed Big Government that the trend in the count of absentee ballots makes it virtually impossible that Sen. Murkowski will overtake Joe Miller in the GOP Senate Primary. A trusted and well-placed operative told BG:

    It’s over
    ——————–
    FANTASTIC NEWS. NEXT THING YOU KNOW BP WILL HAVE ONE MORE LOBBYIST AND ONE LESS SENATOR ON THEIR PAYROLL.

    NOT SAY’N WHO BUT HER INITIALS ARE LIKE THE OLD CIGARETTE BRAND: L&M

  23. Problem is, the iraq war is not finished, leaving 50,000 “troops” does mean it is over, its still going to be a mess and the fundamentalist muslims will over-run Iraq in no time.
    ————————————————–
    Let him have his mission accomplished moment. When there are more casualties he will look like the fool we know he is. He will not get credit, but when that happens he will sure get alot of blame. Independent of this silly braying jackass we need to withdraw from that part of the world for financial reasons. He cannot claim anything until we are also out of Afghantistan. And this will not buy him more time on that front. In fact, this will put more pressure on him.

  24. Now for the problems associated with write-in votes.

    Alaska requires

    A write-in vote is the writing in of the candidate’s name with the oval filled in next to the name. A blank space is provided for each race on the General Election ballot for this purpose. To be a valid write-in vote, the voter must write in the name as it appears on the Write-in Candidate’s Letter of Intent or write in the last name of the candidate. Either way, the voter must mark the oval next to the candidate’s name for the vote to be counted.

    So the person must tick the ballot and write in the name correctly with no mispelling. That’ll be fun.

  25. Wbboei, I thought about that too, there are going to be alot of unrest and casualities and he will bare the brunt of that too long with the Gulf of Oil.

    I like BC’s bold colors and Obama’s are just like him “milktoast”. Those colors in his office are not the color of power, are they?? LOL!

    Mop, I love it….surprised he did not have his own bust in the Oval Office…he’s got plenty of pics of himself though and apparently he is now hanging all over the WH.

  26. While Goodwin fires at Bloomberg he also fires for effect at Mr. Obama. I have no use for Goodwin based on his unsavory behavior toward Hillary, but in this case he is right, and when you are right you are right.

    1. “There’s nothing like a round with an unpopular president deep in an election season to dispel suspicion that you’re playing politics.”

    2. “It’s probably a coincidence that Obama and Bloomberg are among the few officials in America defending the mosque, just as they defended holding the 9/11 trial in lower Manhattan.”
    ————————————————————

    MICHAEL GOODWIN: New York’s Mayor Furiously Playing Politics
    By Michael Goodwin

    Now he tells us. According to Mayor Bloomberg, the “yelling and screaming” about the Ground Zero mosque is just “people trying to stir things up to get publicity and trying to polarize people so they can get some votes.”

    He said that on the Jon Stewart show, on Comedy Central. Maybe he was joking.

    Or maybe he was teeing off on the unwashed masses before jetting off to join President Obama on the golf course. There’s nothing like a round with an unpopular president deep in an election season to dispel suspicion that you’re playing politics.

    It’s probably a coincidence that Obama and Bloomberg are among the few officials in America defending the mosque, just as they defended holding the 9/11 trial in lower Manhattan.

    Both see themselves as citizens of the world who ascribe ugly motives to anybody who disagrees with them.

    Bloomberg is no piker, as he showed in his first over-the-top mosque speech. With the Statue of Liberty helpfully framed behind him for TV cameras, he called the mosque a life-or-death test of religious freedom.

    It is not, but mission accomplished. Liberals loved it — Obama’s State Department posted it on a website and The New York Times swooned.

    New Yorkers and the rest of America, not so much. The speech turned a simmering location controversy into a holy war as the mayor tarred as bigots anybody who opposed the mosque or dared to question its $100 million financing.

    In his second speech, to a Muslim group, he rejected all compromise and now takes to Comedy Central to find political motives running wild among opponents. It’s a strange conclusion, given that two-thirds of the country wants the mosque to move, along with major Jewish, Catholic and even some Muslim groups. As ultra-lib Democrat Howard Dean said in defending his support for moving the mosque, “65 percent of the people in this country are not right-wing bigots.”

    Of course, Bloomberg allows himself an unlimited number of mulligans when it comes to his self-interest. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid favors moving the mosque, and his aides were frank in conceding that his re-election fight played a role.

    That’s the very definition of playing politics, but Reid is a very powerful man, and so Bloomberg is holding a fundraiser for him. It takes a politician to know one.

    His personal website, mikebloomberg.com, is his trophy case for the mosque issue, featuring the text of his speeches. The home page includes the video of his appearance with Stewart, a glowing review of it and an image of Lady Liberty — hardly standard fare for a mayor.

    “What we know is that he’s endlessly restless and wants to do something else,” says a supporter who knows him well. “He’s got a wandering eye and there’s always an element of his national ambition in the way he does things.”

    The quest for a new job is facilitated by a handful of aides devoted to the goal. They pushed him to run for president in 2008 and he backed out only because his private polling told him he couldn’t win, even if he spent $1 billion.

    So he was stuck at City Hall, if he was lucky. He conspired with a supine City Council to change term limits and, after buying support or silence from many who might have objected, he narrowly won a third term last year.

    Yet his wandering eye is already wandering. One insider predicts that, if the 2012 presidential race pits Obama vs. Sarah Palin, Bloomberg will jump in. Then there’s talk Obama will dump Joe Biden, meaning a possible ticket spot for a billionaire golfing buddy who also thinks a mosque near Ground Zero is a great idea.

    Politics? Round up the usual suspects.

  27. admin
    August 31st, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    The article says that Obumbles will not be ‘self-congratulatory.’ I forgot that he got into disguise and fought alongside the troops.

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

  28. Obama wont be able to resiste being self-congratulatory, in fact, watch, i bet he claims all credit. He’s bound to do it, its not in his nature, not to.

  29. moononpluto
    August 31st, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    He is an asshat. His subordinates are asshats. And those that supported him at any time on any level are woefully lost….

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

  30. He looks like Urkel! The suit seems very tight and not a good fit. The desk is as empty as he is. His posture is like an eager beaver student with hands folded to impress teacher.

  31. TheRock,
    I sure did and I wish I could have blown them up, they were different, ones I hadn’t seen before..how about you??

  32. confloyd
    August 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    I’ve never noticed before. I’ve never looked before. I never noticed because he is an asshat. Him and the family should retire to Chicago next month. Let the grown ups run the country.

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

  33. The makers of Lunesta and Ambien lost a lot of business tonight. Obama knocked out into sleep land most anyone who watched him tonight.

  34. I didn’t watch. I can’t stand to hear him speak. I haven’t heard a presidential speech since Clinton’s farewell.

  35. He didn’t do anything that wasn’t already planned out. The Iraqis had Bush sign the status of forces agreement, which laid out the drawdown.

  36. mj at 8:41 pm

    I didn’t watch. I can’t stand to hear him speak. I haven’t heard a presidential speech since Clinton’s farewell.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________

    Me too

  37. I did’nt watch it, was it a load of old piffle as usual, laid out in a monotone preachy style, did a unicorn fly past the oval office window on a rainbow?

  38. Comment on another blog: I just shut off NPR after someone said that Obama is the first President in history to ever run for President as a critic of a war and then wind it down.

    Oooooo, he’s once again HISTORIC!!! (TM). Um, Nixon ran on ending the Vietnam war, you NPR moron. Jesus Christ on a waffle cone, does NO ONE in this country know any history anymore?????

  39. People are calling the speech “delivered like a dead fish”. Apparently he repeated the same line twice and it looked bizarre. I think its getting to him, his unpopularity.

    weirdest line of the night apparently was

    “It also means that as we transition in Iraq, that the one thing I will insist upon for however long I remain President of the United States is that we serve you and your families as well as you served us.”

    What an odd way to phrase it.

  40. Yes, mj – he followed Bush’s plan to a tee, but tonight talked about “my plan”. HIS plan? In what universe?

    Once again the boob swoops in at the end and takes total credit for someone else’s work that he just attached his name to.

  41. Mop, that was the second time today he used that phrase…he said it to the troops. “For as long as I’m President of the United States”. I am sorry but thats weird…twice in a single day.

  42. President Barack Obama is declaring an end to the U.S. combat role in Iraq after more than seven years of war, saying the country’s future now is up to its own people. The president, who opposed the war as a senator, says: “It is time to turn the page.”
    **********
    I saw the same Headline on “CNN breaking news”……time to turn the page?????

    Brought to mind a young Iraq war vet that I saw about 2:00 AM at a cross roads gas station in “no where” Mid-West.” He was obviously a home-town, boy local and was talking with the young cashier who I guess from their conservation that he had grown up with. He had be severely burned and also sustained blast injury. He was missing a leg part of one hand and fingers from the other. Face and head was all scar tissue, ears gone, etc. He had obviously had many surgeries and rehab to return him to “society”. His injuries were so disfiguring and devastating that he has no future.

    Obama wants to “turn the page” on the tens of thousands like that veteran, not to mention the families of the KIAs. Typical Obama, he has turned the page on each stage of his life and tried to erase his tracks…I guess he figures all of the Vets can do the same…A total lack of empathy…a fu*cking Sociopath or to be accurate, Anti-social Personality Disorder.

  43. Confloyd, its almost like he has to tell himself, he is President and remind us of the fact.

    I’m not sure he’s compus mentus at the moment.

  44. Bush plan, Bush numbers. The DailyKooks new Ohio poll conducted by PPP:

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html

    We’ll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there’s one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they’d rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

    Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama’s preferable (3%.)

    A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it’s probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

    There’s not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats…and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there’s going to be a very, very steep price to pay.

  45. I wondered what they did with the set when they cancelled the “Cosby” show.

    To me it looks like some cheap set from Oprah’s show, maybe she sold him some old furniture on the cheap.

  46. Maybe he’s trying to one-up Palin. She sold the jet on ebay, so he decorated the whitehouse from craigslist.

  47. Apparently he repeated the same line twice and it looked bizarre. I think its getting to him, his unpopularity.
    *******
    After the Dem election disaster of 2010…The hopefully new Dem leadership will have to cut Obama loose if they expect to retain any Nation influence after 2012. If they do throw Obama under the bus, the next two years are likely to be very unsettling. Having a President who is also a sociopath stressed passed their psychological tolerance ain’t going to be pretty or good for the Country.

  48. Tuesday, August 31, 2010
    Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX) said she did not know she was another corrupt Democrat
    After awarding as many as two a year Congressional Black Caucus Foundation scholarships to her family members and relatives of an aide, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX) claims she did not know that was wrong.

    “Rep. Johnson told us that she did not know the rules of our scholarships, and that once she realized she erred, she would make retribution to the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation in terms of returning the money,” she said.

    Now that she has been busted as another corrupt Congressional Black Caucus member, Rep. Johnson is willing to give the money back. I wonder if she will make a trip to her garage freezer to retrieve some cold cash.

    In the video embedded below, Texas Congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson goes on on ‘Washington Watch’ and explains how the Office of Congressional Ethics is treating Congressional Black Caucus members unfairly. She claims the charges are “very simple stuff and when it finishes, probably nobody will be in trouble.” She must have meant simple stuff like cheating deserving students out of scholarships for the enrichment of her family.

    http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2010/08/rep-eddie-bernice-johnson-d-tx-said-she.html

  49. Background….

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/31/texas.scholarship.controversy/#fbid=X7HzoClAL4q&wom=false

    (CNN) — A veteran House representative from Texas is under fire for awarding charitable scholarships associated with the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation to her family members and relatives of an aide.

    Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX) has said she will repay all the scholarship money this week that went to relatives, a foundation spokeswoman told CNN’s “AC 360.”

    Todd Gillman, The Dallas Morning News’ Washington bureau chief, told “AC 360” that new documents show Johnson awarded scholarship money to her grandsons, David and Kirk Johnson, as well as the children of her Dallas district director, Rod Givens, last year. Each of the relatives were awarded two scholarships last year.

    Johnson is a former chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus and is a former board member of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, which gives each member $10,000 every year to award as scholarships to students in each member’s district. The scholarship money comes from tax-deductible charitable donations.

    The newspaper reported that Johnson has awarded more than $25,000 in scholarships to two grandsons, two great-nephews, and Givens’ children in the past five years.

  50. Speaking of Palin, and Beck and Rush as well – it is becoming so laughable that Obama cannot resist mentioning them. He mentioned Beck again in his “bitter clingy/a certain portion of people” remarks this week.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I do not recall GWB or his press secretaries ever stooping to mentioning his media critics by name, and commenting on them from behind the presidential pulpit. It’s so un-presidential.

  51. wbboei
    August 31st, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    Problem is, the Iraq war is not finished, leaving 50,000 “troops” does mean it is over, its still going to be a mess and the fundamentalist muslims will over-run Iraq in no time.
    ————————————————–
    Let him have his mission accomplished moment. When there are more casualties he will look like the fool we know he is.
    ****************
    But the MM won’t tell anyone, they rarely speak of casualties now as it is, but when Bush was in, drum roll, stage to the left…..

  52. H4T…its because Obama has a pathological need to go after anyone that he deems a threat to him, it will be his downfall because people like that have no reasoning, you cannot reason with him, his pathological demands will become worse and worse the more unpopular he becomes. It aint going to be pretty.

  53. moononpluto
    August 31st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
    ***********

    Hey, leave the man alone. Just because his relatives happened to be the most qualified! Really, you are so RACIST !!!

  54. Update, 5:09 p.m.:
    It’s looking bad for Lisa Murkowski.

    The latest count of absentees increased Miller’s lead to 1,469 votes. Fairbanks probably helped Miller, although the votes were also from Southeast Alaska and the Kenai Peninsula.

    The Murkowski campaign was really counting on a big boost from Southeast.

    It didn’t happen.

    15,700 votes were counted today. Murkowski is running out of ballots.

  55. Basically blaming his current economic mismanagement on Bush’s decisions on war seven and a half years ago.

    Is this dirtbag really using an opportunity to thank the troops as a campaign commercial for his failed economic policies? I think he is.

    Posted by Ace

  56. gonzo lol.

    You’d think a politician would know better than to hand out financial scholarships to their own family, i mean, thats the definition of dumb as rocks.

  57. I swear there is a convergence of minds in America. we may get out of this alive yet!
    ***********************

    Essay of the Day: Media Losing Readers In Pursuit of Its Own Radicalism
    —Ace
    Very good piece, read the whole thing.

    The left is furiously blasting Washington Post TV Critic Tom Shales for stating what was obvious to everyone, that Amanpour is out of place, completely clueless about US politics and insists on internationalizing domestic issues. But shooting the messenger won’t save Amanpour. Her hiring is only the latest manifestation of a media that is too radicalized to save itself. Bringing in a personality from the sinking ship that is CNN was obviously a bad idea on commercial grounds alone. Amanpour left CNN, for the same reason that Campbell Brown did. And ABC News taking Amanpour in, demonstrates that they share CNN’s bad judgment.
    Unlike ABC producers, Americans are not interested in an “outsider’s perspective” on American politics. They can get that from the White House. Threatening to stab Tom Shales with a knife won’t change that either.

    Amanpour’s promise to “open a window on the world” for what she imagines are parochial American viewers is condescending even to those who agree with her. It’s grating to those who don’t. Because Amanpour’s window is the parochial European left-wing window from which you can see Brussels, but not Iowa, a stifling world that is upper class in its arrogance, and low class in its empathy for terrorists. ABC News producers may be determined to bring that tiny dollhouse of a world to Americans, but who exactly is supposed to underwrite this project? The BBC and its outrageous salaries are funded by taxpayers. ABC has to pay its own way.

    Lenin called on Communists to seize the telegraph offices, telephone stations and post offices in order to control the means of communication. The American left has seized the means of cultural communication, hijacking the media, the educational system and entertainment, and turning them into vehicles for their brand of political indoctrination. And they’ve managed to badly devalue all three. The American educational system is a shell of what it used to be, the media is imploding and the entertainment industry keeps hitting new lows. Just as in the USSR and Venezuela and everywhere else, what the radical left controls, it also destroys.

  58. i dunno flgirl but i used to spend time as a teen in a basement that was furnished like that. there was lots of drinking.\
    ****************
    ng
    comment from BP about the “new oval office’…also there were no patriotic colors? what are the colors of say Saudi? just wondering

  59. great job, Admin…you said it!

    I am so sick of this term ‘white priviledge’…do these snobby blog boys and msnbc, cnn, npr and the rest of the creative class understand how hard and often dirt poor white grandparents and parents were when the came to this country…and the prejudice many of the nationalities had to battle against…

    we are now in the 21st century…for goodness sakes AA men got the right to vote before women…women were not able to vote and considered partial property in the USA until 1920

    …in the 21st century…what is the difference between a white or black american who loses their home…their home is their home…it has no color…

    …just how long do the blog boys and so called progressive media play the “victim card”???? in the 21st century and our current economy…and in addition to the information Jim Webb added to the discussion…we are all in this mess together…

    …it is only the corporations and banks that are making out like bandits…the rest of us…black, white, brown or yellow…whatever…are all struggling to make ends meet, find jobs, keep our homes, take care of aging parents,etc…

    …I could go on but I will bite my tongue at this point…

  60. Barry sent me an email titled ‘Iraq’ right after the speech. I feel so special!!!

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

  61. btw…O looks so scrawy…there was so much going on behind him while he was speaking…it was like looking at a home shopping network set or one of those informercials where there are all kinds of doo dads on the screen…two flags…one i could barely make out was a flag…all those photos…overkill…way too busy…

  62. Murkowski staffer: “She is calling her family now. It looks like she will come out + concede. That’s what we recommended to her.”

  63. This is a huge victory for the Tea Party and for Sarah Palin, they just took out one big incumbent and put the party on notice.

  64. Apparently he repeated the same line twice and it looked bizarre. I think its getting to him, his unpopularity.
    *******
    After the Dem election disaster of 2010…The hopefully new Dem leadership will have to cut Obama loose if they expect to retain any Nation influence after 2012. If they do throw Obama under the bus, the next two years are likely to be very unsettling. Having a President who is also a sociopath stressed passed their psychological tolerance ain’t going to be pretty or good for the Country.
    ———-
    First time in his life he can’t run: first time in his life he can’t hide; first time in his life he can he will be held accontable; first time in his life he stands to lose everything; first time in his life he will make his supporters look like idiots. Yes, it is a heavy load for a man whose is a sociopath and still trying to find out who he is.

  65. Hamas claims responsibility for ambush
    ————————————–
    one of the many gotchas in this getting to no negotiation.

    Abaas cannot control Hamas

    And Obama is an ahhhhhhhhhsssss

  66. I cruised around to see what the wingers are saying, and there’s the usual drivel (yawn), some actual truths, but also this fairly insightful stuff in one comment:

    You ever see those movies where after the con man is exposed the magic is gone and then it becomes the exact opposite, where no one will believe him that the sky is blue. That is what this reminds me of. Axelrod is a marketeer not really a policy person and once you start to doubt thier marketing campaign and they know nothing about actually running things (see Chicago) it is over.

    …….

    This has got the marketeers in the media and WH going bonkers because that DOES spell the end for them. What is Obama when you start to disbelieve him? Shamwow Guy? Door to Door salesman?
    People start to turn the channel or close the door (metaphorically speaking). I can’t even picture his reelection campaign when he has to start debating his term instead of just “Hope and Change” smoke and mirrors.

  67. Its official Murkowski concedes
    ———————————
    Sarah wins again! This will go down like a mouth full of grass burrs with big media. Trust me. They are scared of her, the tea parties and Jacksonian America. I am perfectly happy letting big media be all they want to be, with one proviso. First they must divest themselves of their property. Otherwise I must assume that when they play the race card, savage the tea parties, and lie to protect elitst Obama they are really engaging in class warfare. Their obsession with race is simply a diversion. As for the obamacrats it is increasingly obvious that they a hate group and should be classified as such with Homeland Security. They despise America, traditional democrats, working class whites and elderly people.

  68. JanH
    August 31st, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Abbas has already given up on the talks before they have started, by making threats and demands that are ridiculous. He is insisting that Bibi continue the moratorium on construction. He wants East Jerusalem and Israel will never give up Jerusalem.
    Abbas wants everything but will give up nothing.
    Even so, I firmly believe that Hillary will negotiate with fairness and balance. If anyone is going to screw this up it will be obama’s fixation with anything Muslim/Arab and Abbas’s stupidity.
    ____________________________

    Nor should Israel give up Jerusalem, Jan- it has been revered as their capital for thousands of years.

    “What about Muslims? Where does Jerusalem fit in Islam and Muslim history? It is not the place to which they pray, is not once mentioned by name in prayers, and it is connected to no mundane events in Muhammad’s life. The city never served as capital of a sovereign Muslim state, and it never became a cultural or scholarly center. Little of political import by Muslims was initiated there.”

    “One comparison makes this point most clearly: Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion (which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154 times, or 823 times in all. The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times and Zion 7 times. In contrast, the columnist Moshe Kohn notes, Jerusalem and Zion appear as frequently in the Qur’an “as they do in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita, the Taoist Tao-Te Ching, the Buddhist Dhamapada and the Zoroastrian Zend Avesta”—which is to say, not once.”

    http://www.danielpipes.org/84/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem

  69. wbboei,
    Correct me if I am wrong, but is the republican party being purged from the old republican guard?? I read a few pieces over at Red State that makes me think so….I haven’t kept up with it or understand it…so could you fill me in???

  70. Admin-

    Today’s new post is very informative. I had no idea there is such a thing as “oikophobia” or rather a label for such a thing as people who cannot exist without having labels for everything. Whether the “Oik’s” labels are accurate or even appropriate could be a whole nother topic for another day.

    C’mon now, admin… yer pullin our collective legs…. yes? 🙂

    “The British philosopher Roger Scruton has coined a term to describe this attitude: oikophobia. Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: “the disposition, in any conflict, to side with ‘them’ against ‘us’, and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably ‘ours.’”
    The Oikophobe, or “Oik” is a familiar character to Hillary Supporters and Sarah Palin supporters:

    “The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism.”

    I was thinking… here- suey, suey, suey.. ? 🙂

    No?

  71. Huh? Bloomberg goes loud and clear for an unpopular cause he could have stayed out of — and that’s ‘playing politics’?

    Playing politics would have been to stay out, or to join the lynch mob.

  72. The author mentioned above Roger Scruton, has quite an impressive Curriculum Vitae. He sounds like a completely unique well published individual unafraid to make waves or worry whose feathers he ruffles. A rarity these days I’m afraid-

    He also has a website on wordpress…

    http://rogerscruton.wordpress.com/

    also this one:

    roger-scruton.com/rs-cv.html

    “There are few more valuable thinkers in Britain – or indeed, the world – today. His vilification and rejection by the academic establishment is disgraceful. In comparison with him, most of his critics are intellectual pygmies. Both left and right should be grateful to have such a man to sharpen and define the issues. And philosophers should be grateful that he has placed their subject at the very centre of current affairs. Perhaps Scruton’s greatest contribution is his living demonstration of the truth that without philosophy we are nothing.” Bryan Appleyard, The Sunday Times

  73. Just getting to today’s wonderful post from our Admin!

    While there is a high level of stupidity, dementia, and delusion in that article there is one huge triumph. The White Working Class have indeed been jack-booted out of the Obama Dimocratic Party with forethought and purpose. The elderly have also been booted out, or walked out, of the grand coalition which was once the FDR/Hillary Clinton Democratic Party.

    How’s about us disenfranchised Dems form our own party, here are a few names to pick from:

    White Working Class Party

    Disenfranchised FDR Old School Democrats Party

    White Folk and Elderly Party

    We Want our Party Back Party

    Throw Out the Bums Party

    Jack boots and pitchforks Party

  74. gonzotx
    August 31st, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “I want your money”…Reagan doesn’t do a lot for me, but it’s funny
    ————–
    Yup, take Raygun and the Rethugs out and it is funny, except the dig on all Dems, including the great one, Bill Clinton.

  75. I’m off to bed….just got off work and I’m tired. Lets hope Obama is shown the back door to the WH soon….I’m sick of listening to his crap.

    I’m glad that Mathews still enjoys his BS but 60% of the American people is sick of it…time to go Obama while you can still hold your head up and leave with respect.

  76. Oh the old republican is being quietly bumped off and its about time, the people decided to take it into their own hands. The principle of “they should be working for us” has taken, people are fed up with what the politicians have been feeding us and are telling them where to go.

    the politicians have no idea how angry the electorate actually is out there and they are going to find out soon.

    This is what happens when you get majorly conned by a flim flam man who promised the earth and did’nt, eventually the peasants revolt. Can’t say we are not surprised, we all at Big Pink saw this coming a mile off.

  77. I still remember the Dems crowing about the 40 year Dem majority Obama would bring them last year…gee what happened?

  78. NORFOLK

    http://hamptonroads.com/2010/09/fbi-others-join-inquiry-noshow-norfolk-employee

    The FBI has joined a growing list of law enforcers trying to figure out how a woman who didn’t show up for work at a community services organization for 12 years continued to be paid and to what extent others might be involved.

    City Attorney Bernard Pishko said the employee is no longer on the payroll and that others in the organization are being questioned to see whether they had any involvement in a scheme to funnel money. As of Tuesday, no one else with the Norfolk Community Services Board had been suspended or fired.

    “These are people that are showing up for work,” Pishko said of those being questioned. “Decisions are pending.”

    The employee, Jill McGlone, was paid by the Community Services Board, which relies on federal, state and local funding to provide mental health and substance abuse treatment, among other services. Employees of the organization work for the board, not the city. The agency employs about 300 workers.

    McGlone was paid in the $15,000 range at the start and was receiving just more than $25,000 when she was taken off the payroll, Pishko said.

    She lives on Jacquelyn Court in Norfolk in a house that property records show she and Alonzo D. McGlone purchased in 2000 for $104,900. She declined requests for interviews.

    “I met with an FBI agent, a local special agent, and he’s going to be investigating,” said Jack Cloud, a deputy attorney in Pishko’s office. “He’s being directed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office.”

    Cloud said he talked recently with representatives from the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development’s Office of Inspector General and the Virginia Department of Behavioral Health and Development Services. The FBI has declined to comment.

    An investigation by the Community Services Board and the city attorney, which represents it, will be turned over to Norfolk police, according to the city attorney.

    Maureen Womack, executive director of the Community Services Board, reported the problem to her governing board and then to the city attorney, the city attorney’s office said. The Norfolk City Council appoints the agency’s governing board, which picks the executive director.

    Womack was appointed in early 2009, replacing George Pratt, who retired. Pratt said Monday that he was not familiar with McGlone.

    “There were audits every year. Expensive audits every year,” Pratt said. “I cannot imagine how something like this could occur.

    “Every employee has a performance evaluation every year, and their increases or any changes are based on that.”

    City Councilman Andy Protogyrou, a criminal defense attorney, sent an e-mail to the city clerk saying he wants the city to recommend that a criminal case be prosecuted.

    “If pay was conducted online, a wire fraud count can be brought and conspiracy is much easier to prosecute in Federal Court,” he wrote. “Guidelines will assure jail time in years.”

    In an interview, Protogyrou said the case could be more easily prosecuted in the federal system, especially if a telephone, e-mail or direct deposit was used.

    “It takes two to tango on something like this – or more,” he said.

  79. So Johathan Curely fails to do his homework, gets henpecked by his wife into voting for Obama, votes for him like a loon, later discovers that this was a mistake, discusses this mistake with intelligent friends only, engages in elevated discussions which are not like Sarah Palin questions, and then writes an article called Confessions of a Conservative Who Voted For Obama. This is exactly the kind of elitist with such delicate sensibilities who put Obama in office, and wants forgiveness. I shall not scruple to call in a fool. At Annapolis, if a plebe said something stupid, he was ordered to stand up on his chair and say attention world, attention world, and then repeat the stupid thing he said or did. In this case, Curely does that same thing on his own volition. The value of these non Mirandized confessions is other fools may be thinking the same thing and maybe this will elicit similar confessions from them. The reason I have no respect for people like this is because I knew several of them who were impervious to logic and blind to common sense on this issue when it counted. There is a song by the Kingston Trio called Bad Mans Blunder where a petty criminal shoots a deputy, goes on the lamb, gets sentenced to 99 years on the hard rock pile and his final words are “this has sure been a lesson to me.” The Obama Administration will put the middle class on that same hard rock pile while this elevated fool asks everyone to believe he is man enough to say he was wrong.

  80. While there is a high level of stupidity, dementia, and delusion in that article there is one huge triumph. The White Working Class have indeed been jack-booted out of the Obama Dimocratic Party with forethought and purpose. The elderly have also been booted out, or walked out, of the grand coalition which was once the FDR/Hillary Clinton Democratic Party.
    —————————–
    I think they have been out maneuvered by the monied interests who decided they would be the cash cow for their self serving schemes. This is why the tea party movement is important, provided it evolves into a political organization. The democratic party is the party of losers who prey on the general welfare. I know Bush was bad, but these people are infinitely worse because they hate America, as well as the white working class.

  81. The level of toxicity of the democratic party will increase from now until 2012. Confessions like those we see from Curley will become more common–except in big media. One guy who has not succumbed to it is Mort Zuckerman. He gets it, and his media holdings have gone off the koolaide.

  82. Madame secretary can do it

    Hillary Clinton brings a lifetime of experience to bear on Middle East peace talks

    Wednesday, September 01, 2010
    By Dan Simpson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    President Barack Obama’s choice of Hillary Rodham Clinton as his secretary of state was considered at the time by some as a stroke of genius; by others, a cardinal error.

    Then-Sen. Clinton had been his main primary opponent for the Democratic nomination. She had also taken what some considered to be a damaging-to-the party, indecently long time to drop out of the race when it was clear she would not win.

    Some worried that as secretary of state she would not be able to carry out an “Obama foreign policy” and would instead seek to set out a track record that would serve as the basis for her to mount a 2012 or 2016 repeat run for the presidency.

    Lying in the background to this day is the still-simmering Clinton urge to get back into the White House. It most recently manifested itself in former President Bill Clinton’s support of one candidate for the Colorado Democratic senatorial nomination while Mr. Obama supported another. (Mr. Obama’s man won.) Such support is normally provided to build up credit for future electoral campaigns.

    The other, almost entirely inside-the-Beltway hypothetical plot line now in play is the idea that somehow Vice President Joe Biden and Mrs. Clinton will switch places, she becoming vice president and he becoming secretary of state, soon or in 2012. This would be possible, although only through constitutional gymnastics that would shake the republic and probably annoy most Americans to the point of distraction.

    It’s easy to see why the Clintons might like the idea. It is hard to ascertain what would be in such a switch for Mr. Biden, though he does have a deep interest in foreign affairs.

    It is a terrible idea. Mr. Biden has sometimes made ill-advised comments and on occasion seems unnecessarily glued to Mr. Obama’s side, but in general he has done a good job as vice president.

    It should never be forgotten that one task of a vice president is to make the president look good by comparison. Neither back in 2008 when Mr. Obama was choosing his vice president nor now do I think Mrs. Clinton is well-suited for the job. Her husband’s and her ambition for her to be president is understandable. At the same time, it is not exactly comforting for a chief executive to know that his principal deputy lusts for his job. Ottoman emperors frequently had their brothers strangled to avoid a comparable predicament.

    In any case, with the imminent commencement of Middle East peace talks, Mrs. Clinton is about to have the opportunity to construct an historic agreement, completing or at least moving forward toward an accord between the Israelis and Palestinians and the resolution of a dangerous problem that has tormented the world for more than six decades.

    A cold assessment of what Mrs. Clinton has achieved so far as leader of American diplomacy takes us strongly to a “is the glass half full or half empty?” conclusion.

    So far she can show no points on the board, no agreements reached nor wars ended. It cannot be said that she has made an ascertainable dent in any of America’s major foreign policy problems. These include the Middle East, the Afghanistan-Pakistan war, the India-Pakistan Kashmir dispute, Russia vs. Georgia, America’s longstanding quarrel with Cuba or any of Africa’s numerous conflicts — such as those in Sudan, Somalia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

    On the other hand, she has been most effective in getting around the world and establishing relationships with the main players in world politics, where she has been helped by her previous experiences as a senator and first lady. It was very important for her to do so.

    Americans among themselves can usually get down to business quickly after meeting, even for the first time. People from other cultures, particularly in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia and East Asia, sometimes take quite a while before feeling that they have a good enough understanding of someone to talk business seriously. Mrs. Clinton was wise to take some time and travel a lot during her first 20 months on the job before undertaking anything major.

    Now, even if she would have preferred not to take on the difficult task of trying to bring peace to the Middle East as her first major foreign affairs undertaking, the talks between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas will start tomorrow, preceded by a dinner tonight, and Mrs. Clinton will be ringmaster.

    There is every reason to believe that, given the stakes, Mr. Obama will play an important role in the process, as needed. That will probably be necessary, considering the nature of the beast.

    But Mrs. Clinton will be the one front-and-center, cajoling and twisting the arms of Mr. Abbas and Mr. Netanyahu. There will also be present at the beginning President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt and King Abdullah II of Jordan, key neighbors of the Israelis and Palestinians, both of whose countries have a dog in the fight.

    During these talks Mrs. Clinton will be able to draw on all of the experience she has gained in her first 20 months as secretary of state and in her previous career as Mr. Clinton’s campaign organizer in Arkansas, as a lawyer, as first lady and as senator from New York.

    This can be her finest hour to date. It is also hazardous work, a chance for her — if things were to go wrong — to suffer the diplomatic equivalent of her disastrous 1990s venture into health care reform.

    Everyone — we hope — wishes her well: the people of Israel and Palestine; their neighbors in the Middle East who don’t want more wars in the region; and, most of all, Americans, who would love to step back from two countries, Israel and Palestine, that are living in security and peace with each other and not constantly importuning the United States to meet their military, political and economic needs instead of our own.

    It won’t be easy, but she can do it.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10244/1084003-374.stm

  83. So how many Demwits watched Obama’s speech last night?

    Is it safe to assume Bush would have brought these soldiers home at this time anyway? So what is this guy crowing about?

    He said in his speech they moved millions of pieces of equipment out of Iraq. My impression was that they leave much of the equipment there and don’t bother to move it. Why does this guy lie so much?

    To H4T’s comment above, I fear what will happen when the adoration turns to disgust which has already happened for much in the middle. When his core base starts to move away I fear how he will take it. Time to move on to greener pastures and make hay while the sun shines.

  84. wbboei,
    Correct me if I am wrong, but is the republican party being purged from the old republican guard?? I read a few pieces over at Red State that makes me think so….I haven’t kept up with it or understand it…so could you fill me in???
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    I think this Murkowki thing will have people like Mitch McConnell and Orin Hatch talking to themselves. They are at the top of the party, have all the advantages of incumbency, and if push comes to shove they tell themselves we are in safe states or districts. The latter statement is true when it comes to democratic challengers, but not taint necessarily so when it comes to challenges from their conservative base. And even if they do survive, they will have tea party people to deal with who will blow the whistle on them, Can you imagine anything like that happening in the democratic party. I cannot. They are madly in love with Obama, and if not they do not dare speak of it for fear of reprisal. Cowards.

  85. Wednesday, September 01, 2010
    By Dan Simpson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
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    That paper is owned by arch Republican and former Clinton foe Richard Mellon Scaife who has since become a great admirer of Hillary, a contributor to the Clinton Global Initiative and friend of Bill. Can you imagine an obot doing that?

  86. wbboei come Nov, the hatches are going to be blown off, there is only one person’s door the Dems will lay defeat and that is Obama’s, he promised them the earth, he promised them a 40 year Dem majority, he had a supermajority in the house and senate and squandered both of them. You and I both know what happens when the peasants catch up with liars and dictators, they usually end up at the end of a rope in a town square.

    The Dems are being somewhat nicey at the moment, if thats what you can call all the backbiting. Once Nov hits, the knives come out and thats also partly why i think Hillary got out of the Senate, if she was there in the Senate at this time, Bambi and his gang would have had her rolling around the country trying to save seats and she knew that and would get the blame for the losses, so got out of the way so she could wait out the shitstorm coming and not be a part of it. Very astute.

  87. So far she can show no points on the board, no agreements reached nor wars ended. It cannot be said that she has made an ascertainable dent in any of America’s major foreign policy problems. These include the Middle East, the Afghanistan-Pakistan war, the India-Pakistan Kashmir dispute, Russia vs. Georgia, America’s longstanding quarrel with Cuba or any of Africa’s numerous conflicts — such as those in Sudan, Somalia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

    On the other hand, she has been most effective in getting around the world and establishing relationships with the main players in world politics, where she has been helped by her previous experiences as a senator and first lady. It was very important for her to do so.
    ————————–
    This is why she may not leave her current post. The first step in any negotiation is to build trust with your adversary. Then the real work begins. I hope she does not get bogged down in this miasma. The core problem is Obama is not trusted, he is seen as weak, therefore we do not have the leverage to move world events. In addition, the inherent problems of the Israeli Palestinian process present a further hurdle which is probably insurmountable for the reasons discussed by Don Horwitz, who understands them far better than the elite fools at the New York Times.

  88. wbboei come Nov, the hatches are going to be blown off, there is only one person’s door the Dems will lay defeat and that is Obama’s, he promised them the earth, he promised them a 40 year Dem majority, he had a supermajority in the house and senate and squandered both of them. You and I both know what happens when the peasants catch up with liars and dictators, they usually end up at the end of a rope in a town square.

    The Dems are being somewhat nicey at the moment, if thats what you can call all the backbiting. Once Nov hits, the knives come out and thats also partly why i think Hillary got out of the Senate, if she was there in the Senate at this time, Bambi and his gang would have had her rolling around the country trying to save seats and she knew that and would get the blame for the losses, so got out of the way so she could wait out the shitstorm coming and not be a part of it. Very astute.
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    He is the wet dream of big media. They love him so much they can hardly stand it. I do not know if it is the abs, or the golf swing, or the I will not post the birth certificate on my forehead speech. Perhaps it is the way he has faced down Iran, North Korea, Chavez, and made the lion lay down with the lamb. Or maybe it is the way he has rescued to economy and created billions of new jobs in Asia. There is some indefinable something about him that is like catnip. They get down on the floor and roll around in a state of ecstasy at the mere mention of his name. And they grovel at the fashion statement that is Michelle, as she traipses across the world spreading enlightenment wherever she goes. Come to think of it, it is a fairy tale.

  89. Moon, I am skeptical that party officials will abandon Obama, until the money men do. When that happens, they will not not need party officials to fall in line. Then, they could blow him over with a feather. Heavy losses in November will send an unambiguous signal to the money men, that Brand Obama is obsolete. Other failures will haunt him as well. Contrary to popular perception, congressional leaders are not leaders. First, last and always they follow the money.

  90. Wbboei, Obama’s screwed because if he can’t get anything passed, then the money men have no further use for him.

    The 2010 lot is not what he should be worrying about, its the guys up for election in 2012, when its even more dangerous senate cycle for Dems and the guys left in the house will not be in happy form.

  91. http://www.slate.com/id/2265656/ OUCH……………..

    Lost in a MuddleObama’s frustrating, unfocused speech on Iraq.

    President Barack Obama’s speech from the Oval Office Tuesday night was a strange muddle—a televised prime-time address that lacked a bottom line, a consistent theme, a clear road to the future.

    He announced the end of combat operations in Iraq, right on schedule. But he equivocated on what comes next in that much-improved but still war-torn land.

    read on……………

  92. Roberta: “I have often said that we lost more when Bobby was killed than even when President Kennedy was killed.
    I think the Democratic Party lost it’s soul when Bobby died. It has never recovered. And under present ownership, never will.”

    I don’t know about the Dem Party, but I lost all hope for America when it was announced Bobby was dead. In my (mostly Republican) family, neighborhood, and at that time, “politician” was a dirty word, like “communist”. But no one ever referred to RFK as a “politician”, and indeed he was not a politician in any sense of the term. JFK was, but not Bobby.

    I remember on the 1968 campaign trail, a reporter asked Bobby a difficult question (which I don’t remember), and Bobby just sat there, on prime time TV, looking at the floor. After 4 or 5 precious seconds, the reporter said, “Senator? …” and began to repeat the question. Bobby said, “I’m… I’m… I’m thinking…”, utterly oblivious to his audience.

    That short sequence endeared him to me as never before: Bobby didn’t have a pat answer or a ready word bath to feed the public. He wanted to answer the question thoughtfully and right, as if he was making a decision that would affect the fates of millions.

    Since 1968, I’ve voted pretty reliably Democratic (except 1972 and 2008), but I had never felt as swept up in the destiny of a leader as I did with RFK, until Hillary came along. When people in the media referred to her as a “politician”, the word took on a new and very positive meaning for me. Unlike the other Kennedys, RFK Jr. endorsed Hillary heartily, and that endorsement resounded with me.

    So, don’t worry too much about resurrecting the old Democratic Party, Roberta, anything can happen still.

  93. Follow the money:

    “Who Is The Man Behind The Ground Zero Mosque?
    Developer Of Community Center Has Lengthy Record, With Numerous Arrests Dating Back To 1990”

    (snip)
    “In 1990, he was arrested in Nassau County and pled guilty to disorderly conduct.

    -In 1992, he pled guilty in Nassau to DWI and paid a $350 fine.

    -In 1993, he pled guilty in Nassau to attempted petit larceny and paid a $100 fine.

    -In 1994, arrested for disorderly conduct in Manhattan.

    -In 1998, there was another Manhattan disorderly conduct arrest.

    -In 1999, yet another Manhattan disorderly conduct arrest.

    A potential problem for the mosque developer is a deposition he gave in the assault case in October 2007. When asked if he was ever convicted or pled guilty to a crime, El-Gamal replied “no

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/30/who-is-the-man-behind-the-ground-zero-mosque/

  94. The Trotsky-ist didn’t like the Puppet-in-chief’s speech:

    “Obama’s Iraq speech: An exercise in cowardice and deceit”

    (snip)
    “The most chilling passage came at the end of the 19-minute speech, when Obama declared, “Our troops are the steel in our ship of state,” adding, “And though our nation may be traveling through rough waters, they give us confidence that our course is true.”

    It is for this statement, rather than all the double-talk about troop withdrawals, that Obama’s miserable speech deserves to be remembered. It was rhetoric befitting a military-ruled banana republic or a fascist state. The military—not the Constitution, not the will of the people or the country’s ostensibly democratic institutions—constitutes the “steel” in the “ship of state.” Presumably, the democratic rights of the people are so much ballast to be cast overboard as needed.
    (snip)
    Some 50,000 combat troops remain deployed in Iraq. While they have been rebranded as “transitional” forces, supposedly dedicated to “training” and “advising” Iraqi security forces, their mission remains unchanged.

    Indeed, barely a week after the media turned the redeployment out of Iraq of a single Stryker battalion into a “milestone” signaling the withdrawal of the last combat troops, 5,000 members of the 3rd Armored Calvary Regiment, a combat unit, were sent back into the occupied country from Ft. Hood, Texas.
    (snip)
    Obama’s speech was both incoherent and groveling. The president sought, dishonestly, to take credit for fulfilling his campaign promise on Iraq. As a candidate he had pledged to withdraw all US combat troops from the country within 16 months of taking office. In the end, he merely adopted the time table and plan crafted by the Pentagon and the Bush administration for a partial withdrawal, leaving 50,000 combat troops in place.
    (snip)
    The speech was crafted as if the president were addressing a nation of amnesiacs. Do they really think that no one remembers it was a war launched on the basis of lies? The American people were told that an invasion of Iraq was necessary because the government of Saddam Hussein had developed “weapons of mass destruction” and was preparing to place them in the hands of Al Qaeda to set off “mushroom clouds” over American cities.
    (snip)
    Today, our most urgent task is to restore our economy, and put the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs back to work,” he said. “To strengthen our middle class, we must give all our children the education they deserve, and all our workers the skills that they need to compete in a global economy.”

    This is one more lie. While the administration has handed over trillions of dollars to bail out Wall Street, it has repeatedly made clear that it will do nothing to create jobs for the unemployed. As for education, the federal government is continuing to cut funding, ensuring increased layoffs of teachers and more school closures.
    (snip)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/sep2010/obam-s01.shtml

    At least the Commies aren’t afraid to call a lying sack of shit…a lying sack of shit.

  95. This is quite significant

    Partisan Trend: Democrats 35.0% Republicans 33.8% Gap Smallest in Five Years

    The number of Republicans in the United States grew in August while the number of Democrats slipped a bit and the gap between the parties fell to the smallest advantage for Democrats in five years.

    In August, 35.0% of American Adults identified themselves as Democrats. That’s down nearly half a percentage point from a month ago and is the smallest percentage of Democrats ever recorded in nearly eight years of monthly tracking.

    At the same time, the number of Republicans grew in August grew to 33.8%. That’s up two full percentage points from the month before and the largest number of Republicans recorded in 2010.

    As has been the case in every month over the past eight years of tracking, there are more Democrats than Republicans in the nation. The gap is currently 1.2 percentage points. That’s the closest the Republicans have been to parity in more than five years, since July 2005.

    It’s also the smallest gap between the parties heading into any of the recent campaign seasons. In August 2004, the Democrats had a 2.6 percentage point advantage. In August 2006, they enjoyed a 5.4 percentage point advantage. In August 2008, the gap was 5.7 percentage points. See the History of Party Trends from January 2004 to the present.

    The biggest advantage ever measured for Democrats was 10.1 percentage points in May 2008. In December 2008, the final full month of the Bush administration, the Democrats held an 8.8-percentage-point advantage.

    Since December 2008, the number of Republicans has grown by a single percentage point. However, the number of Democrats has fallen by nearly seven points.

    The number not affiliated with either major party is now at 31.1%. That’s the lowest level measured in 2010.

    Rasmussen Reports tracks this information based on telephone interviews with approximately 15,000 adults per month and has been doing so since November 2002. The margin of error for the full sample is less than one percentage point, with a 95% level of confidence.

    (Want a free daily e-mail update ? If it’s in the news, it’s in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    Between November 2004 and 2006, the Democratic advantage in partisan identification grew by 4.5 percentage points. That foreshadowed the Democrats’ big gains in the 2006 midterm elections. The gap grew by another 1.5 percentage points between November 2006 and November 2008 leading up to Obama’s election.

    The number of Democrats peaked at 41.7% in May 2008, and it was nearly as high at 41.6% in December 2008. The number of Democrats fell below the 40% mark in March 2009 and first fell below 36% in December of that year. Rasmussen Reports has been tracking this data monthly since November 2002. Prior to this month’s data, the lowest level of identification with the Democrats has been 35.1%. It was reached twice, in February and May of this year.

    For Republicans, the peak was way back in September 2004 at 37.3%, For nearly five years, since late 2005, the number of Republicans has generally stayed between 31% and 34% of the nation’s adults.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends

  96. Ace of Spades (yes, I know, he’s right wing) has nailed Chris Matthews ridiculous comments about Obama’s speech. Here are Tweetie’s comments, followed by Ace.

    CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: It’s about being an American, and the wonderful thing about this country is you can grow up to be basically what, you know, it’s a Great Gatbsy country, you can actually create your own identity and become a person. This guy Barack Obama, not to get too basic about it, did everything right.

    JOAN WALSH, SALON: Yes.

    MATTHEWS: He studied hard in school. He obeyed the law. He raised a family. He took care of his family. He was an excellent student. He was on the Harvard Law Review. He did everything. He went through the democratic process. He didn’t go out and make a lot of money on Wall Street. He gave himself to his community. This guy is almost pluperfect and they don’t like him.

    Chris Matthews: Boy Howdy, I Can’t Tell You How Wonderful It Is to See A Black Man With a Wife and a Steady Paycheck!
    —Ace

    More racial nuance from Chris “For a moment I almost forgot he was black” Matthews.

    “Almost pluperfect,” he calls Obama.

    His entire speech here is racist. Yes, racist. Most politicians “do everything right” in terms of getting an education, securing gainful employment, getting married and raising a family.

    Most people do this, in fact.

    Why is it that in the case of Obama it is required that we “like this guy” for doing what 85% of the public does? In fact — for doing what 85% of black people do?

    He’s doling out the superlatives for perfectly ordinary good behavior, of course, because Obama’s black, and Chris Matthews finds it just plum remarkable that there’s a successful, bourgeois upper-class black man out there, and we should all gawk at it and and “oooh” and “ahhh” at it like it’s a, well, like it’s a unicorn.

    As Chris Rock said, “You’re supposed to” do these things, and you’re not supposed to get a big stack of credit for doing them.

    But Chris Matthews, closet racist, thinks this is just about the most amazing thing he’s ever seen, like a horse that can do addition.

  97. Hillary Clinton And Benjamin Netanyahu Condemn Killings Of West Bank Settlers

    Yesterday evening, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington.

    Hours earlier, four Israeli settlers were murdered in the West Bank. The military wing of Hamas has claimed responsibility for the killings.

    According to The New York Times, “gunmen fired on a vehicle carrying two men and two women at a junction near the city of Hebron.”

    Before their meeting, Clinton and Netanyahu condemned the attack.

    Benjamin Netanyahu:

    We witnessed today a savage murder of four innocent Israelis. There are seven new orphans that were added to the circle of grief in Israel. We will not let the blood of Israeli civilians go unpunished. We will find the murderers. We will punish their dispatchers. We will not let terror decide where Israelis live or the configuration of our final borders. These and other issues will be determined in the negotiations for peace that we’re conducting, and in these negotiations I will set clearly the security needs that are required precisely to address this kind of terror, and I hope to have the opportunity to go into greater detail in my conversations with President Obama tomorrow and with you, Secretary Clinton, today, and the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinians as well. Thank you.

    Hillary Clinton:

    Well, let me express our deepest sympathy to the families who have lost their loved ones. This kind of savage brutality has no place in any country, under any circumstances. The forces of terror and destruction cannot be allowed to continue. It is one of the reasons why the prime minister is here today: to engage in direct negotiations with those Palestinians who themselves have rejected a path of violence in favor of a path of peace. We have to not only stand against the kind of horrific murders we saw today on behalf of the four who were lost and, as the prime minister said, the seven orphans who have been brutally deprived of their parents, but on behalf of all people — Israelis, Palestinians, everyone who knows that there is no answer when violence begets violence. And I thank the prime minister for his leadership in seeking a different future for the children of Israel. And we pledge to do all we can, always, to protect and defend the State of Israel and to provide security to the Israeli people. That is one of the paramount objectives that Israel has that the United States supports in these negotiations.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/09/01/129574406/hillary-clinton-and-benjamin-netanyahu-condemn-killings-of-west-bank-settlers

  98. I read and read and read your posts because they soothe my achin’ mind.

    This one was so soothing, I just wanted to give you my thanks.

  99. SHV
    September 1st, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Follow the money:

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    What money?

    I bet he’s not a plumber and his name isn’t Joe, either.

  100. He announced the end of combat operations in Iraq, right on schedule.

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    Whose schedule? Bush’s, iirc.

  101. pm317
    Is it safe to assume Bush would have brought these soldiers home at this time anyway? So what is this guy crowing about?

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    To take credit for something he didn’t do, of course.

    As for the 50,000 who will remain, relabeled — I remember that figure from way back, when Bush said 50,000 would remain, and McCain said “for 100 years.”

  102. somehow Vice President Joe Biden and Mrs. Clinton will switch places, she becoming vice president and he becoming secretary of state, soon or in 2012. This would be possible, although only through constitutional gymnastics that would shake the republic and probably annoy most Americans to the point of distraction.

    ====================

    It’s an unbelievable, foolish, and annoying idea. But where’s a constitutional problem? Either position can be resigned at any time. A president (if we only had one!) can appoint someone new to either position once it’s open.

    We don’t really need a VP anyway.

    Senate approval might be a circus though.

    (Just to take it more seriously than it deserves … iirc Hillary didn’t resign her Senate seat till after being confirmed as SOS.)

  103. This is why the tea party movement is important, provided it evolves into a political organization.

    =====================

    I assume you mean to pressure the GOP by primarying them, rather than a third party to split the vote in November. Although I suppose a third party might win in a few districts.

  104. So, Obama had another publicity stunt? Who knew…

    I didn’t watch. I didn’t care to watch. I didn’t want to read anything about it, nor did I want to hear anything about it. I have no interest in this president other than an interest in seeing him out of the White House.

    After reading this article here, I’ve got to wonder when the words “White House” will be changed to something different, and if that change will coincide with the painting of the White House in some shit brown color. That should satisfy the nuts who see racism in everything. Well good on them. I’ll just refer to it as the Shit House.

  105. Apparently there is a hostage situation in Silverspring, MD, some eight miles from the WH. A man with a bomb in the Discovery building. People are just going wacko…the country is under such distress.

  106. OMG, there is a day care in this discovery building. 100 children inside the daycare center…they getting them out.

    I hope all you guys are battening down the hatches on the East Coast.

  107. TheRock, Looks like in those pics of that link you posted that Obama was bored and looked pretty detached….this is just for show…it ain’t going no where, although I am sure Hillary is engaged, but she had to put forth the “one”s policies.

  108. Turndown, Looks like its one of those crazy enviromentalists holding people hostage and has a bomb….he calls children…parasitic infants. Children in the building are being evacuated. This guy is Asian…so why isn’t he doing this in one of those countries with a huge population explosions.

  109. This is terrible…I once got a call from my kids schoolz( a private well off school) they under lockdown and I literally started to drive from my office in Fort Luaderdale back up top Boca…it turned out to be some petty thieves in the neigborhood whom the police felt might have hid on campus. I pray for these kids and their parents.

  110. jbstonesfan, What really matters is how Dems and Obama are doing at the state and local level, and the numbers there are pretty bad. Unless the economy improves, Obama’s numbers will stay in the 40s at best.

  111. I hope so Paula. I was feeling more confident when his disapproval went over 50% last week for the first time ever. However, since his vacation, he has risen to about even. I can’t stand it when the media says people like him but not his policies!!! Who the hell likes him??? The super libs think he is not liberal enough. the republicans think he is the anti-Christ, former dems like myself despise him for cheating Hillary and his mid-east pro-Muslim policy. So whom, other than the MSM, likes this guy? I would much rather have had a beer even with W than this snob. Bill was by far the most likeable President in my lifetime. Bill came from humble roots, and unlike obama, did not milk the system to get ahead.

  112. confloyd,

    Yeah, just like the Times Square bomber was ‘probably a middle aged white man unhappy with Obamacare.’

    Anyway, if a Silverspring building blows, the White House is within in 8 miles! That makes the White House in Ground Zero!

  113. Bloomberg again. Bravo.

    http://gawker.com/5621205/mayor-bloomberg-uncompromising-on-ground-zero-mosque

    On America’s “commitment to fighting terror with freedom”:

    “But if we say that a mosque and community center should not be built near the perimeter of the World Trade Center site, we would compromise our commitment to fighting terror with freedom.
    “We would undercut the values and principles that so many heroes died protecting. We would feed the false impressions that some Americans have about Muslims. We would send a signal around the world that Muslim Americans may be equal in the eyes of the law, but separate in the eyes of their countrymen. And we would hand a valuable propaganda tool to terrorist recruiters, who spread the fallacy that America is at war with Islam.
    “Islam did not attack the World Trade Center-–Al-Qaeda did. To implicate all of Islam for the actions of a few who twisted a great religion is unfair and un-American. Today we are not at war with Islam—we are at war with Al-Qaeda and other extremists who hate freedom.
    On moving the community center:

    “I understand the impulse to find another location for the mosque and community center. I understand the pain of those who are motivated by loss too terrible to contemplate. And there are people of every faith—including, perhaps, some in this room-–who are hoping that a compromise will end the debate.
    “But it won’t. The question will then become, how big should the ‘no-mosque zone’ around the World Trade Center be? There is already a mosque four blocks away. Should it too, be moved?
    “This is a test of our commitment to American values. We must have the courage of our convictions. We must do what is right, not what is easy. And we must put our faith in the freedoms that have sustained our great country for more than 200 years.
    On Imam Rauf, the man behind the Park 51 project:

    “Before closing, let me just add one final thought: Imam Rauf, who is now overseas promoting America and American values, has been put under a media microscope. Each of us may strongly agree or strongly disagree with particular statements he has made. And that’s how it should be-–this is New York.
    “And while a few of his statements have received a lot of attention, I would like to read you something that he said that you may not have heard. At an interfaith memorial service for the martyred journalist Daniel Pearl, Imam Rauf said, ‘If to be a Jew means to say with all one’s heart, mind, and soul: Shma` Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu Adonai Ehad; Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One, not only today I am a Jew, I have always been one. If to be a Christian is to love the Lord our God with all of my heart, mind and soul, and to love for my fellow human being what I love for myself, then not only am I a Christian, but I have always been one.’
    “In that spirit, let me declare that we in New York are Jews and Christians and Muslims, and we always have been. And above all of that, we are Americans, each with an equal right to worship and pray where we choose. There is nowhere in the five boroughs that is off limits to any religion.
    “By affirming that basic idea, we will honor America’s values and we will keep New York the most open, diverse, tolerant, and free city in the world. Thank you.”

  114. Disaster for the Dems according to their best pollster.

    Public Policy Polling

    Wednesday, September 1, 2010
    Another Look at the Midwest
    I think this fact sums up how much trouble Democrats are in for in the Midwest this year: Ted Strickland’s 34/52 approval rating on the Ohio poll we put out today makes him…the most popular Democratic Governor in a Big Ten State!

    The other 5 Democrats running their states in the region all have approval numbers in the 20s. Ed Rendell’s numbers are the worst at 27/63 (-36), followed by Jennifer Granholm at 29/61 (-32), Jim Doyle at 28/59 (-31), Pat Quinn at 23/53 (-30), and Chet Culver at 28/56 (-28).

    The Midwest, rather than the South, is going to be the Democrats’ worst region because they have so much more to lose. When you see approval numbers like these for the Governors in these states- not to mention the President- it makes you wonder how bad the damage is for Democrats in the Congressional and Legislative races in the region.

    Two months left to try to minimize the damage…

  115. I don’t consider PA to be in the midwest, so Ed Rendell’s approval rating is kind of a shocker to me. I would have thought him as probably having a better approval rating, especially since there is a lot of Northeast state transplants from New Jersey and New York in the eastern part of PA.

    I also agree with moononpluto, but I will go further and write that Bloomberg is an embarrassment to everyone. He is trying to make himself look so pure when I suspect that his real reason for supporting the mosque is due to his financial involvement in the Mideast. He’s another political huckster.

  116. Bloomberg’s statement is forceful and convincing. I now have an opinion on the subject.

    Funny that I didn’t have one before: I have 3 long-time friends who worked at the WTC (1 escaped by running down the stairs, the other 2 were mysteriously absent that morning) and my brother, 2 months before his retirement as a fireman, was a first responder and still suffers from the effects. And I can see the NYC skyline from the flat roof of my house in NJ. Furthermore, I have a negative opinion of Islam in general (but I have an even more negative opinion of Mormonism and Catholicism).

    But, I just didn’t understand all the hullabaloo about this mosque. I mean, I don’t like Catholicism but I adore cathedrals, I don’t like Islam but some muslim architecture is inspiring (in fact, gothic cathedrals were originally inspired by muslim architecture). We’re just talking about a building.

    The hullabaloo, it seems to me, was caused by o’s limp intervention in the affair, stating the obvious about the imam’s freedom to build the mosque as if it was some profound belief of his. Someday, o may learn to just shut up, it will keep him and his “friends” out of a lot of trouble. I don’t think he’ll ever learn to make a statement like Bloomberg did.

  117. Well, Ed Rendell is finishing up his last term as governor and that may be why no one is interested in him any more. I’ve heard he was a pretty popular governor for a long time – he originally campaigned on a platform to increase taxes, was elected and increased taxes and got the state out of debt.

    He was also a stalwart Hillary supporter and delivered her the state, along with Nutter in Philadelphia. I remember he publicly refused the VP spot on the 2008 ticket, saying he would be interested in taking Transport secretary or something like that in 2011. Now, maybe o will think of replacing Biden with Rendell?

  118. jeswezy,

    Good for you!

    But the next question is whether this is a ‘mosque’ at all?

    It’s a building that will be open to all local residents regardless of religion: supplying a swimming pool, library, meeting rooms, gym, etc etc. IE, a community center, just as the backers have always described it. It will have some ‘meditation rooms’ for other religions or generic. The space for Muslims to have their prayers will be a small part of the large building.

    It doesn’t compare to a catherdral etc — but to a YMCA!

  119. If Muslims are praying at the site then it will NEVER be used as anything similar to a YMCA. It will be a mosque first and foremost.

  120. jeswezey
    September 1st, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    =================================

    More offended by Catholicism than Islam? Interesting…

  121. turndownobama
    September 1st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Bloomberg again. Bravo.
    ———————

    Fuck Bloomberg. He is protecting his investment in building a financial info system for Muslims. What ignorant idiots!

  122. From CNN, surprise, surprise. The title of the following article is what is most surprising to me.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/01/rollins.obama.iraq/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

    Obama’s lame speeches on economy, Iraq
    By Ed Rollins, CNN Senior Political Contributor

    New York (CNN) — In the first two days back from his Martha’s Vineyard family vacation, President Obama gave two speeches on two important subjects.

    The first was a four-minute address from the Rose Garden on Monday on the economy. This was obviously a quickly thrown together speech to let the country know that even though the economic indicators, to quote the Washington Post, “trended from bad to worse” while the president golfed and relaxed, his team was aware of them.

    We all come back a little rusty, and hopefully relaxed, from our vacations, and certainly the president and his family are entitled to theirs. But this speech offered nothing new on the most important subject of concern to voters, who in two months may alter the political makeup of the Congress and change the way this president can do things for the remainder of his term.

    The president slammed the Republicans one more time. This is his campaign theme, and obviously it isn’t working. Besides, the more he blames the Republicans, the more difficult it will be to work with them in January, when they may have a majority or at least a lot more clout in the Congress.

    Saying his economic team was working on identifying new ways to boost the economy, the president said he would provide details “in the days and weeks to come.” It raises the obvious question: What has the administration been doing in the weeks and months just past?

    It may not matter if the administration proposes any new measures on the economy, especially if they would require a vote in Congress.

    I can promise you, Mr. President, in the heat of a campaign battle royal — in which your congressional team is on the brink of a disaster unlike any that Democrats have faced since 1994 — in the “days and weeks ahead,” they are going to be focused on doing nothing except trying to get re-elected and running as far from you and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as possible.

    The second speech was given from the newly decorated Oval Office on Tuesday night in prime time. It was to celebrate the “Campaign Promise Kept”: the withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq.

    I couldn’t quite figure out what the speech was about. Our combat troops moved out of the cities of Iraq last summer and haven’t been in real combat since the success of the surge much earlier. There still isn’t a functioning government there and may not be for months to come.

    Mr. President, you need to fill in the blanks about what you meant when you said, “Our combat mission is ending, but our commitment to Iraq’s future is not.”

    It was appropriate to thank our troops and military leadership. It was a nice gesture to tell the country that George W. Bush supported our troops and loved our country, and obviously was committed to our national security.

    It would have even been more appropriate to say that the program he and Secretary Robert Gates laid out is the one the president implemented without change, and it seems to have worked.

    It would have been an accurate statement to remind people that we were withdrawing our troops because of a Status of Forces agreement signed in December 2008 by Bush and Iraq President Nuri al-Maliki to do so — and not because Obama had promised this in his campaign.

    The Iraq government insisted that we withdraw all of our forces by December 31, 2011. I hope we can. We certainly will know by then whether the Iraq government can stabilize and whether the Iraq army and police can keep the peace.

    If not, the president has another tough decision to make. We signed an armistice in Korea in July 1953 — and we still have nearly 30,000 troops there. Let’s hope that’s not the outcome here.

    The president said: “Now is the time to turn the page.”

    But, as in his speech on the economy, he raised several issues that will need to be clarified “in the days and weeks ahead.”

    He gave the clear impression that now that we are finished with the “bad war” in Iraq, his term we can focus on the good war, Afghanistan.

    “Because of the drawdown in Iraq, we are now able to apply the resources necessary to go on offense [in Afghanistan].”

    I am sure that the more than 100,000 troops fully engaged under the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus already think they are on the offense and didn’t realize they were being bogged down by Iraq.

    But the president couldn’t leave it there. He had to return to politics, because every speech will be political between now and November 2. He went on to say:

    “As we wind down the war in Iraq, we must tackle those challenges at home [jobs, deficits, energy independence and education] with as much energy and grit and sense of common purpose as our men and women in uniform who have served abroad.”

    The war was expensive, not only in terms of the soldiers who were killed and injured but in the trillion-plus dollars spent on it. But if the president thinks the nation and the world are in this economic mess because of a war he didn’t want to fight and didn’t support, we are in worst shape than I thought.

    We still have expensive obligations to those men and woman who so bravely served us. It’s not like we can close down the Pentagon and use that money to build more buildings to house Energy and Education Department employees.

    Now that Iraq is fixed — and in a few weeks we will hear how the president and his team plan to get the economy moving again — we now move on to solving the crisis in the Middle East. Lots of luck!

    Like most Americans, I want my president’s focus to be on the economy.

    In a few short weeks, we Americans get to exercise our voice and vote for a new Congress.

    I promise our voice and our message will be a lot clearer than these two pedestrian speeches the president just made.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ed Rollins.

  123. If a YMCA, or a hospital, has a Christian prayer room or even a chapel – that doesn’t make the whole facility a ‘cathedral’ or even a ‘church.’

  124. Judaism, christianity and islam are all Abrahamic religions. They share a common root. I think, again, some people who speak about this just don’t know any muslims. They assume every muslim is some fanatic. It’s just not the case. Indeed, I wonder if some here even know any christian radicals. Radicals come in all religions and persuasions, always have, always will.

    Confloyd, I care about the environment. I’m not some nut. This guy who took over that building is sick. I’m sure he was sick long before he became an “environmentlist”.

  125. I understand that turndownobama. What you don’t seem to understand or want to acknowledge is that Mosques are off limits to everyone except Muslims. You seem to be of the mind that there will be no mosque in the complex. You also seem to think that they will welcome everyone with open arms. I don’t believe that for one minute, unless you are a fellow Muslim. If you have one building with a mosque in it, how will this mosque be separated from all the goodies that they are proposing for the site? Point me to an example, just ONE example, where this has been done before in a predominately non-Muslim country. I want to see how it worked out.

  126. mj

    Wow, and you are an expert on everyone else who doesn’t see the world the way you do. Where did you learn how to be so presumptuous? An elite school, maybe? Or were you just born that way?

  127. jbstonesfan
    September 1st, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Really???

    I don’t agree with him on a lot of things, primarily extending the Bush tax cuts. However, I know his mother’s doctor, and he’s one hell of a son. He paid for this doctor to go to Isreal with his mother when se wanted to make the trip again at a very old age.

  128. nomobama
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    Judaism and Christianity share a common root. Islam is a perversion that claims the same.
    ************

    I agree

  129. 1 in every 5 people in the world is muslim, do you detest everyone of them because of your deep understanding of Islam?

  130. mj, It was just a joke with turndown. Yes the dude was wacko. There’s nothing wrong with being an enviromentalist. I was horribly upset about the gulf of Mexico.

    It was something we talked about way back when the gulf oil well blew…like I said it was a joke.

    Folks I think we all are getting a little edgey here.

  131. nomobama
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    So you don’t detest every one of the one in five of the world’s population who are muslim, you just don’t want the American muslims in New York praying in lower Manhattan. Good to know.

  132. “But, I just didn’t understand all the hullabaloo about this mosque. I mean, I don’t like Catholicism but I adore cathedrals, I don’t like Islam but some muslim architecture is inspiring (in fact, gothic cathedrals were originally inspired by muslim architecture). We’re just talking about a building.”

    jewesy

    Are you on crack? Just a building? Like Normandy is ‘just a graveyard’, or for that matter, Pearl Harbour? This is sacred ground, and will be for eternity…your brother knows, as EVERY American should. Shame on you.

  133. mj
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    You’re just a fool. Two mosques already exist in that general area.

  134. gonzotx
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    This is not sacred ground. This is NEAR sacred ground, along with the strip club.

  135. mj
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Hey mj, why don’t you go live in a burka in Iran for a few years, do a drive by to Saudiland, and come back and tell us your wonderful tales of Muslim beveloence. Maybe interview, say Daniel Pearls wife and young child.If your female of course!

  136. Two months left to try to minimize the damage…
    ***********
    Or, two months to MAXIMIZE the destruction of the once great DEM party….

  137. jbstonesfan
    September 1st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
    I am concerned that his approval/disapproval level has more or less evened out…..
    ************

    don’t believe the polls…always remember 2008. Look what just happened in Alaska. Murk was suppose to be 20 points ahead. Lies, all lies…

  138. gonzotx
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    I recommend Nine Parts of Desire: The Hidden World of Islamic Women by Geraldine Brooks. I’m not defending Islam. Of course, I am disgusted by the sexism and antisemitism that often eminates from islamic clerics, governments, and people. But I strongly believe people are people, and we have a lot more in common than we do tha seperates us. And, I think there are plenty of moderate muslims, particularly in America, and we do better when we don’t assume the absolute worst from everyone.

  139. gonzotx
    September 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    What are you talking about? The proposed site is not at ground zero. It is near it. As are many other places including a stip club.

  140. Insidersaurus:” Anti-Mikulski Ad for Eric Wargotz
    —Ace
    I’m not a long-shot, Eric Wargotz says. I’m just behind. He points out that Scott Brown was down 19 to Martha Coakley, where as he’s only down 16.

    He’ll need a little luck… but then again, he’s going to get a little luck. The only question really is whether he gets an unexpectedly high 48% of the vote and loses, or a more unexpectedly high 51% and wins.

    Birther? Eh, well: what the hell.

    We can have one Senator who thinks Obama was born overseas. We’ve currently got 59 who think he was born beside his brother Jesus in Heaven.

  141. mj is spouting the left’s talking points. I acknowledge that I am supporting those who don’t want a mosque so close to the WTC site. This is about symbolism. The symbol of American financial strength, the World Trade Center was destroyed by Muslims for religous/political reasons. Throughout history, Muslims have conquered lands, and then set about removing the religous vestiges of other religions, including their houses of worship. Although I don’t believe all Muslims to be radical, or to hold the same beliefs as each other, there is a segment of radicalized Islam that will view any mosque built so close to the former World Trade Center as a “victory” mosque. I think that is absolutely the wrong message to send to these people that we ARE AT WAR WITH. They would like nothing better than to point to this area of Manhattan and say “we destroyed the towers, and now a new mosque has been built in the vicinity, while a replacement for the towers has not”. Less you get confused mj, it is my OPINION.

  142. “It will consistently send out cultural signals designed to appeal primarily to the creative class.”

    Like ‘these people should be drug-tested?’

    But if I could play Bower’s copy editor: “It will consistently send out cultural signals designed to play the creative class for suckers.”

    There, that’s better.

  143. Posted: 02/16/08

    Moderate Muslims turning radical?
    -Unintended consequence of tolerating Islam

    By Willam J. Federer

    Britain’s Daily Mail, Jan. 29, 2007, reported in the article “Multiculturalism drives young Muslims to shun British values”:

    Multiculturalism has alienated an entire generation of young Muslims and made them increasingly radical, a report has found. In stark contrast with their parents, growing numbers sympathize with extreme teachings of Islam, with almost four in 10 wanting to live under Sharia law in Britain. The study identifies significant support for wearing the veil in public … and even punishment by death for Muslims who convert to another religion. Most alarmingly, 13 percent of young Muslims said they “admired” organizations such as al-Qaida which are prepared to “fight the West.”

    Germany’s Spiegel, Dec. 20, 2007, reported in the article “Interior Ministry warns of radicalization of Muslims”:

    A new study released by Germany’s Interior Ministry has added new fuel to the debate about integration of Muslims in Germany, with the report warning about the danger of radicalization of Muslims. According to the study … 40 percent of Muslims surveyed had a “fundamentalist orientation” … 6 percent of those surveyed were classified as having “violent tendencies,” while 14 percent of respondents had “anti-democratic” tendencies. … The report also concluded that religious beliefs are becoming increasingly important for young people.

    Europe is wondering why fundamental Islam is not assimilating, – history may reveal the reason.

    The word “Islam” means submission to the will of Allah, and a “Muslim” is someone who has submitted. A “dhimmi” is an inferior non-Muslim coerced to submit.

    Muhammad divided the world into two parts: those who have submitted and those yet to submit. He called these two parts the House of Islam and the House of War, pronounced in Arabic “dar al-Islam” and “dar al-harb.”

    Within 100 years of Muhammad’s death in A.D. 632, fundamental Islamic caliphs, with cavalry armed with scimitar swords, subjugated vast areas of the world: Arabia, Persia, the Holy Land, North Africa, Spain, Southern France, Sicily, Central Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.

    Egypt was conquered by Muslim Gen. Amr ibn al-As. Gen. Khalid ibn al-Walid was called the “Drawn Sword of Allah” for being undefeated in nearly 100 battles.

    In the next 1,000 years, Sultans subdued Indonesia, Java, Borneo, Sumatra, the Byzantine Empire, the Balkans, Armenia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Wallachia, Moldova, Serbia and regions of China, Tibet, Bengal, Mongolia, India, Russia, Hungary and Poland.

    In 1529 and 1683, over 100,000 Turkish Muslims attacked Vienna, Austria.

    Whereas “world peace” in the West means peaceful coexistence, “world peace” in Islam means the world submitting to the will of Allah.

    Since there is no one theological body governing all of Islam, faithful Muslims have developed differing views.

    Moderate Muslims think the remaining area of the world will submit to Allah in the distant future, maybe at the Hour of Judgment. Therefore, since it is so far off, it is acceptable to get along with non-Muslims in the present.

    Fundamental violent Muslims think the rest of the world is submitting to Allah now and feel it is Islam’s “manifest destiny” to make it happen. They would just as soon fight moderate Muslims, considering them backslidden from following the example of Muhammad and the caliphs.

    Moderate Muslims are hesitant to speak out against fundamental violent Muslims, as occasionally one does and they are threatened, intimidated, forced to change their names for protection, have fatwas put on them and even killed.

    So there could, in a sense, be three groups of Muslims: a minority of fundamental violent ones; a majority of moderate ones who are afraid of the fundamental violent ones; and the courageous dead ones who were not afraid of the fundamental violent ones.

    The West may be inadvertently fueling the problem by not understanding that fundamental Muslims interpret their “politeness” as weakness or submission.

    Saudi Arabia was pressured to revise its fundamental textbooks supplied to Muslim schools around the world, including the U.S., because they contained intolerance.

    The Washington Post, May 21, 2006, published excerpts of these textbooks in an article “This is a Saudi textbook (after the intolerance was removed)”:

    4TH GRADE: “True belief means … that you hate the polytheists and infidels.”

    5TH GRADE: “It is forbidden for a Muslim to be a loyal friend to someone who does not believe in Allah and His Prophet.”

    8TH GRADE: “The apes are Jews, the people of the Sabbath; while the swine are the Christians, the infidels of the communion of Jesus.”

    9TH GRADE: “It is part of Allah’s wisdom that the struggle between the Muslim and the Jews should continue until the Hour [of Judgment].”

    11TH GRADE: “Do not yield to Christians and Jews on a narrow road out of honor and respect.”

    One may have to read that last line again:

    “DO NOT YIELD to Christians and Jews on a narrow road out of honor and respect.”

    In other words, when a Christian or Jew thinks they are being polite by letting a Muslim go first, the fundamental student is taught that they are simply acknowledging Islam’s superiority.

    Thus the dilemma:

    If the West naively promotes tolerance of a belief system that does not promote tolerance, it is effectively promoting intolerance.

    If the West refuses to promote an intolerant belief system, it is accused of being intolerant.

    Muslims still sees the West, and particularly America, as a predominately Judeo-Christian.

    Newsweek Magazine (September 2005) reported America as 85 percent Christian (58 percent Protestant, 22 percent Catholic, 5 percent other Christian); 2 percent Jewish; 1 percent atheist; 0.5 percent Buddhist; 0.5 percent Hindu; 10 percent other/non-reporting; and 1 percent Muslim.

    So the question is: What goes through the mind of a moderate Muslim, who thinks the world will submit to Allah in the distant future, when he sees this predominately Judeo-Christian nation going to great lengths to tolerate Islam now?

    Let’s look at the history of Islam’s influence in the United States:

    1991 – Imam Siraj Wahhaj was the first Muslim to offer prayer in the U.S. House of Representatives.

    1992 – Imam Warith Deen Muhammad was the first Muslim to offer prayer in the U.S. Senate.

    1993 – Abdul Rasheed Muhammad became the first Muslim U.S. Army chaplin (imam), spiritually instructing about 5,000 Muslim soldiers.

    1996 – Monje Malak Abd Al-Muta”Ali ibn Noel Jr. became the First Muslim U.S. Naval chaplain (imam).

    1996 – First lady Hillary Clinton hosted a White House reception for Muslims on Id al-Fitr, the end of Ramadan.

    1999 – New York City Police Department appointed its first Muslim chaplain, Imam Izak-El M. Pasha.

    1999 – U.S. Postal Service published its first stamp honoring a Muslim leader, Malcolm X.

    2001, Aug. 1 – U.S. Postal Service issued the Islamic postage stamp, “Eid Mubarak.”

    2001, Sept. 11 – Fundamental Muslim terrorist attacks.

    2001, Nov. 16 – Muslim chaplain of Georgetown University prayed in the U.S. House of Representatives, followed by a dinner hosted by President Bush to honor the occasion.

    2001, Nov. 19 – President Bush was the first president to invite 50 ambassadors from Islamic countries to celebrate Ramadan, where, for the first time in the White House, Muslims knelt and touched the floor with their foreheads in a formal ceremony.

    2002, Dec. 5 – President Bush was the first president to take off his shoes to visit an Islamic Center.

    2005, Jan. 20 – President Bush was the first president to mention the Quran in an Inaugural Address.

    2007, Jan. 4 – Nancy Pelosi stood next to Keith Ellison as he swore upon a Quran to become the first Muslim U.S. congressman.

    2007, April 5 – Highest member of the U.S. Congress, speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, went to Syria and submitted to Islamic law by covering her head with a Muslim Hijab (veil).

    2007, April 17 – President Bush was the first president to appoint a Muslim U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad.

    2007, June – First Muslim prayer meeting began in the U.S. Capitol building, bowing toward Mecca.

    2008, Jan. 9 – President Bush was the first president to call for fulfilling the Muslim dream of pressuring Israel to give up sole sovereignty of Jerusalem.

    2008 – Barak Hussein Obama, the first presidential candidate whose middle name is that of Muhammad’s grandson, told the French magazine Paris Match, Jan. 31, 2008: “Once I’m elected, I want to organize a summit in the Muslim world.”

    So the question again is: What goes through the mind of a moderate Muslim, who thinks the world will submit to Allah in the distant future, when they see this predominately Judeo-Christian nation going to great lengths to tolerate Islam now?

    Though America’s actions are done in hopes that tolerance of Islam will result in Muslims being more tolerant of non-Muslims, an unintended consequence is emerging, namely, that these actions are actually radicalizing some moderate Muslims by providing proof that the world is submitting to Allah – not in the distant future – but right now before their eyes!

    They become persuaded that that their long-awaited desire of the non-Muslim world “dar al-harb” (House of War) becoming “dar al-Islam” (House of Islam) is imminent.

    The excitement many Muslims feel is akin to what Christians and Jews felt in 1948.

    For centuries, Old Testament verses about Israel being gathered from the nations to their homeland (i.e., Ezekiel 36:24, Isaiah 66:8) were taken figuratively or thought to occur in the distant future. When Israel suddenly became a nation again in 1948, there was great excitement in Jewish and Christian circles at the possibility these Old Testament scriptures were literally being fulfilled.

    Islamic excitement can be understood in the context of honor or pride.

    In a football analogy, if a team is dishonored by many seasons of poor performance, fans are humiliated, embarrassed and become passive. But if the team suddenly has a winning streak and is headed toward the playoffs, fans are filled with pride. They come out of the woodwork, put on the team’s jerseys, fill stadiums, paint their bodies, mascots are lifted high, and when the opposing team fumbles, the cheering mob roars with enthusiasm. They become radicalized.

    In nature, when a fleeing antelope becomes exhausted, the pursing lion charges harder.

    This is similar to a presidential candidate no one takes seriously suddenly winning a few primaries. The increased media coverage energizes supporters to work harder, thus catapulting the candidate to be a front-runner.

    Islam’s rapid growth is exhilarating to fundamental Muslims. The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life (October 2005) reported:

    Islam is already the fastest-growing religion in Europe. Driven by immigration and high birthrates, the number of Muslims on the continent has tripled in the last 30 years. Most demographers forecast a similar or even higher rate of growth in the coming decades.

    Could it be the more the West exhibits hyper-tolerance, the more it turns some moderate Muslims, who believe the world will submit to Allah in the distant future, into fundamental violent Muslims, who view this tolerance as evidence the world is submitting to Allah now?

    “Personal” tolerance in the West is rooted in Judeo-Christian concepts like “love your enemies” and “turn the other cheek,” but Franklin D. Roosevelt warned regarding “national” tolerance in a Fireside Chat, Dec. 29, 1940:

    “No man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it.”

  144. Boxer looks nervous up against Fiorina in this debate, it looks bad. She looks like the newcomer and not Fiorina.

  145. Its amazing to me that they’d even want to put the mosque next to a strip club…alterior motives is my guess. It sure isn’t to save the poor little prostitutes who work the club is it.

    Its a symbol of conquering and our Potus is allowing it. Its as simple as the nose on your face…there is no other reason for putting it there.

  146. gonzotx
    September 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
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    Good article.

    I view “tolerant” Europe as the test case study on Islam versus western society. What you see is exactly what has been reported in the article that you linked.

  147. Is it me or is Fiorina getting the same treatment Hillary got in the debates of “Sen Clinton, how would solve Iraq compared to “Sen Obama, would you like a pillow”.

    Boxer is getting asked softballs.

  148. The moderator does seem to be chiding Fiorina, moon. Seems like every time Fiornia speaks, the moderator has to add “stay on topic…”

  149. confloyd, try the link above…the buffering is kinda slow but it’s something at least. or you can watch on C-Span locally, I think it may be being broadcast nationally on C-Span..

  150. I just started watching the debate. Thanks for the link above!

    Carly is more elucidate. Almost immediately, it seemed like the moderator was trying to get Carly in a “gotcha”!

    I really don’t like Barbara Boxer. I just don’t. Never have.

  151. Oh finally a question for Boxer on economy and she’s making a bloody mess of it. Boxer really is crap at this debate stuff.

  152. Fiorina really knows her shit and figures on the economy, she is rattling of statistics on california specific employment. She is nailing Boxer to the wall.

  153. Mosques are off limits to everyone except Muslims.

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    Then this 13 story building is obviously not a mosque, since most of it will be open to all local people regardless of religion.

  154. I didnt think Fiorina would be this impressive but she really knows her stuff, i’m impressed actually, but this moderator is really really biased.

    Boxer has gotten too complacement in her job, she’s never had a serious challenger.

  155. The moderator did it again with regards to Carly. Claims she didn’t answer the question, but after that, she most certainly did, and her answer made sense to me.

  156. Carly keeps saying “her track record is really clear”. It forces people to consider the points that she just made about Barbara.

  157. Let’s see. Barbara Boxer states that George Bush’s job creation was the worst ever, yet I think Obama’s first term will change that. Barbara Boxer’s job creation successes must be pretty awful with a 12.3% unemployment rate.

  158. Barbara Boxer is a brawler. I am surprised that some one else hasn’t alreay cleaned her clock, the miserable person that she seems to be.

  159. Yeah I noticed that also moon, Carly’s closing was proactive, whereas Boxer’s was reactive. I’m of the opinion that regardless of the debate, you should use the closing statement to take control of the narrative again. Boxer’s closing statement wasn’t even about herself as much as it was about Fiorina. Boxer needs to rethink that, if she wants to do better in the next debate imo.

  160. Those moderators are in the pocket of the DNC and Obama…of coarse they will try making Carly look bad.

    Boxer has been sitting on her ass for 18 years soaking up fed funds…she need to be gone…new blood is what we need on both tickets…

  161. gonzotx
    September 1st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
    Posted: 02/16/08

    Moderate Muslims turning radical?
    -Unintended consequence of tolerating Islam
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    Wow- thanks for posting that eye opening info. My memory of Muslins is negative in that I’ve heard many stories of white American women marrying supposedly americanized Musims who after 5 or 10 yrs take their children back to the ME and revert to the radical Muslims we read about in the papers. The wife/mother is left bereft of her children having little recourse for ever seeing her children again. These are what I call the Jeckel and Hyde Muslims. The Muslim men wanting their children having the advantages of that US citizenship/(Muslim country of choice)for whatever their plans are good or bad in the future. Undergoing a fake marriage unbeknown to the wife until they decide to pull the plug kidnapping and keeping the children raising them as radical hating America Muslims
    in the country that promotes hate and destruction of
    America as their principle belief. I don’t trust Muslim men at all.

  162. I was not going to comment on the recent postings on Muslims, but I’m just going to say my opinion and then run for the hills…lol…

    You all know that I am Jewish and have little reason to respect Muslims in general. Customs can be brutal and harsh and I abhor the demeaning and violence to women in many cultures. That being said, I firmly believe that terrorists come in all shades, colors, religions and/or races.

    But not all people behave in extreme ways. Not all people hate other groups. I have friends who are westernized Muslims who are disgusted and thoroughly ashamed of their fellow Muslims for their barbaric actions and vehemently are opposed to building a mosque so close to the Trade Centre site.

    My family knows first hand about intolerance and racial discrimination. So I don’t paint all Muslims as being evil. And I hope there are a few Muslims out there who do not hate Jews and wish for Israel’s annihilation.

  163. If you want to hear anti-Muslim vitriol, just talk to an Copt or a Syrian or Jordanian christian who is now living in the US.

  164. The creative class are like evil monkeys who take perverse delight in scatological pursuits like hurling their own feces at anyone who comes too close to their cage, and when one throws they all throw in a perfect busby burkeley leitmotif.

  165. Notice Boxers closing was totally attack and pessimistic, Carly’s was optimistic…..its telling
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    Sunny optimism in very dark times. That is the formula that wins elections. Reagan is a perfect example. Nobody wants to hire a politician who projects gloom and doom. Most people see that as a failure of leadership, especially when it comes from an 18 year incumbent. In that case, the natural response is this: if things are really as bad as you say it is, why haven/t you done something about it, and for once in your life please don’t blame the other party.

  166. Sunny optimism in very dark times. That is the formula that wins elections. Reagan is a perfect example. Nobody wants to hire a politician who projects gloom and doom.

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    Oh you mean like Obama did during his speech last night…if he was celebrating the end of a war…you couldn’t tell it by me…he never smiled or gave anything close to uplifting…gloom and doom and others mistakes…never talking about his…Bill has enough humility to say he’s made a mistake, however this jerk doesn’t….

  167. Mosques are off limits to everyone except Muslims.

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    Then this 13 story building is obviously not a mosque, since most of it will be open to all local people regardless of religion.

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    nomobomo, it could be written into a contract. With some Christians named to monitor it. Or do you think “no true Christian” would take the monitor job? 😉

  168. Perspective from far away from California. Am I reading this right? Are there THREE women in that race? And no men?

    And nobody talking about their hairdos?

  169. henry
    September 1st, 2010 at 11:19 am
    wbbb
    Schaife owns the Tribune Review, the Post Gazette is owned by Block Communications.
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    Thank you Henry. I stand corrected.

  170. Boxer looks nervous up against Fiorina in this debate, it looks bad. She looks like the newcomer and not Fiorina.
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    She should be. She is less polished, less informed, and has a bad record to defend. Plus she is a drinker.

  171. Confloyd – thank you for sticking up for Hillary at NQ. That site has always had people from both parties there, but now the republicans are speaking up more against Hillary, and a lot of Hillary supporters are trashing her now. The people who truly believe in Hillary are migrating away. I hardly go there anymore, because when there’s a Hillary article, it’s mostly Hillary bashing now. So sad.

  172. Today, I went on went through a small town in the middle of nowhere which had 3 wind farms with a total of 350 windmills. Those windmills are owned by major corporations and if you are a land owner they pay you for the use of your land. The power generated by these windmills goes into the power grid. Those 350 windmills in that windy local generate enough power for 110,000 homes. They also have solar power facilities. So you see there are alternatives to oil. And it is oil that keeps us with a large army in the middle east.

  173. lorac, No thanks needed…I believe in Hillary with my whole heart…she IS the one…we need at this time. If you like what I said at NQ, go to Taylor Marsh’s, I let those lefties have it to. My name is different over though…but you should recognize me…I’m the one that is telling them off…LOL!
    I am sick of the Hillary bashing too, how much harder can she work to save America?? She is still beautiful, but she looks like she’s been the President while Obama looks fine. Those RWN need to get a life…all that stuff over there is a play on words with a little twisting of the meaning…Geez!

  174. wbboei, Yeah I agree, she had to concentrate for once…she must of been drinking that Greygoose Vodka with Piglosi. Speaking of pigs, what Brazilla saying about the mosque thing???

  175. wbboei
    September 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Today, I went on went through a small town in the middle of nowhere which had 3 wind farms with a total of 350 windmills. Those windmills are owned by major corporations and if you are a land owner they pay you for the use of your land. The power generated by these windmills goes into the power grid. Those 350 windmills in that windy local generate enough power for 110,000 homes. They also have solar power facilities. So you see there are alternatives to oil. And it is oil that keeps us with a large army in the middle east.

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    Very good. And I hope those windmills are spaced so that crops can be grown under them.

  176. Honestly how can you reason with people like this

    Al Shabaab (Somali Islamic group) bans women to wear bras

    Al Shabaab Terrorist banned women in areas under their control in Somalia to wear bra calling it as Un-Islamic, witnesses told TF.SF on Tuesday. The witnesses reported that al Shabaab young fighters were stopping women in Mogadishu especially areas under their control not to wear bra or they would face punishment from them.

    http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/no-country-old-breasts

    I’ve heard it all now.

  177. She’s going to jail, read that last paragraph…..

    WASHINGTON – Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, the Texas Democrat who broke scholarship eligibility rules set by a black lawmakers group by awarding about $31,000 to her relatives and an aide’s children, said Wednesday she didn’t shortchange others to benefit her own family.

    Since 2005, Johnson, who represents a Dallas-area district, awarded about a third of scholarships she had available through the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation to two grandsons and two great-nephews and to the son and daughter of her top aide in Dallas. After the Dallas Morning News reported the awards on Sunday, Johnson repaid the foundation.

    Foundation rules for its scholarships prohibit nepotism and providing awards to students living or attending schools outside a lawmaker’s district. None of the six related to Johnson or her aide lived in her district, the Morning News reported.

    In a letter Wednesday to the newspaper that her office released to other news media, Johnson repeated her earlier statement that she had violated the foundation’s rules unknowingly. She also said the story was a source of criticism of her.

    “This for me has been quite challenging because I believe it was intended to cast me in an unfair light that was intended to distort my image before my constituents and those who know of my personal commitment to public service,” the congresswoman wrote. “This article gave the appearance that I overlooked the needs of a segment of my constituency to benefit my family; this was not the case.”

    After the scholarships from Johnson came to light, the chairman of the foundation, Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., said, “There will be no self-dealing or nepotism in the awarding of college scholarships” and ordered an immediate audit of the program.

    Amy Goldson, the foundation’s attorney, has said there were false certifications in Johnson’s scholarship awards and pointed out that, under foundation rules, the lawmaker awarding the scholarships or the lawmaker’s designee must certify that the recipients are not related to the lawmaker.

  178. WASHINGTON – Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, the Texas Democrat who broke scholarship eligibility rules set by a black lawmakers group by awarding about $31,000 to her relatives and an aide’s children, said Wednesday she didn’t shortchange others to benefit her own family.
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    It is racist to call this illegal. If she were white they would say go ahead and embezzle you have a right to do that because you are white. Trust me, they are after her because she is black, is a member of the black caucus and supports a black man in the white house. Those racists cannot stand it. If they had a shred of decency they would apply the Philadelphia rule handed down by Eric Holder. Not guilty of voter intimidation by reason of supporting Barack. Don’t take my word for it. Just ask that nutjob Garafulo–or the rest of the looney fringe like Sirota, Bowers and the pre pubesecents at Daily Kos. False claims of racial discrimination are the last bastion of scoundrels.

  179. Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., said, “There will be no self-dealing or nepotism in the awarding of college scholarships” and ordered an immediate audit of the program.
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    And where were you when the lights went out, Don Payne? Lets face it. Eddie Bernice is just a typical member of the most ethical congress in history. Don’t take my word for it. Just ask Pelosi. Compared with the Cornhusker kickback, the Louisiana Purchase and the contents of the Jefferson ice box, $31,000 was chump change.

    That is one for Mr. Curley to ponder. Remember him? He is the conservative elitist who canvassed for Barack and now realizes he does not know shit from shinola. Mention Sarah Paiins name and he needs smelling salts so he does not faint. He can add this to his repertoire when he has those elevated discussions with intelligent friends who intellectualize his failure to exercise the common sense that god gave a jack ass.

  180. Yesterday I interviewed the Commanding officer of the 2nd MD National guard Civil Support Patrol who was on ground at the WTC within 5 hours of the attack.

    The day before that, I interviewed a man who was a voluinteer on the Half Moon (the Henry Hudson ship replica) which had sailed into NY Harbor with a dozen 7th graders aboard and saw the attack from the ship’s starboard.

    The commanding officer, who drove down from the Albany area with his 22 special forces has served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was part of the group which was preparing (although unsuccessfully) for just such an attack beginning in the 1990’s in response to the 1993 WTC attack, the Tokyo subway gassing, the U.S.S. Cole bombing, etc.

    He is a wanted man in Afghanistan becasue of his work against terrorists who- yes – all just happen to be Muslim.

    He lost a lot of colleagues on the day of the WTC attack.

    The ship volunteer had a cargo of wounded teenagers who may never recover emotionally from that day.

    How any American can express any support for Muslim expansion in this country is beyond me. Especially women, who if they don’t understand what it is to be a woman in Islamic socisty really should, as someone on this thread posted, spend a couple of years in Saudi Arabia, our great ally.

    Mosques are for Muslim men. Women are not welcome or, if they are, are isolated from the men as they are unclean, especially during their monthlies.

    Supporting and promoting Islam in this country is evidence of brain washing. They wish the US no good. They want only to expand their influence so as to eventually either kill or convert anyone who is not Muslim.

    Anyone who believes anything other than that is blind.

    I do not believe Muslims should be prevented from praying and following their religion in this country – up to a point. But the minute practicing their religion becomes a symbol of victory, or seeks to make inroads into imposing Sharia Law, I say no.

    This is just more distraction from the admisintration to keep Americans from following the destruction of this country. They throw out the race card, the bigot card, the race card some more while jobs have all but disappeared, the country is near depression status and the debt is unsustainable.

    That’s the real story. And if, in the process, they get to impose some more American destructive policies down our throats, like inviting what’s basically an alien culture – islam – into our country, well, that’s just icing on the cake.

    Those who are so busy supporting and promoting and defending Islam really should educate themselves or visit an Islamic country before spouting off about Muslim rights. Especially the women.

  181. You know that guy Trumka? He took over the AFL-CIO after John Sweeney retired. He was in Alaska stalking Sarah Palin and now he is contracting political hits on those who oppose Obama and the most ethical congress in history. I have seen some recent photos of him, and realized that he reminds me of something which I could not quite put my finger on until now. He is a dead ringer for a vampire bat. Spy Magazine used to do a feature on that called joined at the hip. He would be perfect for the role. One can only hope that the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals would have no objection. Any association to Trumka would be demeaning and defamatory to legions of innocent bats whose only crime is to suck the blood out of cattle and infect them with infectous diseases. Seems pretty harmless in comparison.

  182. Yesterday I interviewed the Commanding officer of the 2nd MD National guard Civil Support Patrol who was on ground at the WTC within 5 hours of the attack.
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    good job Basil.

  183. Here’s a quote from Domenici, whose oldest son is now fighting in Afghanistan.

    “911 showed us our enemy does not operate on our time line,” Domenici said. “They’ve attempted ten incidents in just the past two years, including the Christmas bombing, the Fort Hood Shooting and the Newburgh incident. They aren’t stopping. I’ve watched my son go off to war. I’ve watched first responders die.”

    Domenici said he got a call from his son on June 4, 2009, saying they had been involved in a firefight with 7 wounded and 4 dead. One of the dead was his son’s best friend. He showed me a pic of the two of them on his blackberry.

    There are a couple of impressive and inspiring candidates in this part of NYS. Chris Gibson, a 24-year Marine who is challenging Scott Murphy is another.

    BTW, that should have been 2nd WMD

    Also, I don’t know who Trumpka is.

  184. nomobama: “I view “tolerant” Europe as the test case study on Islam versus western society. What you see is exactly what has been reported in the article that you linked.”

    So now you’re an expert on Islamized Europe?

    Remember first that the article gonzotx contributed was about Britain, which is only marginally European, and about Islamic challenges to “British values”.

    Remember secondly that we Americans also revolted against certain British practices 240 years ago, namely taxation without representation, and ultimately the “value” of the monarchy. Britain has its good and bad sides.

    And thirdly, remember, for what I am about to say in response, that I lived for more than 30 years in continental Europe and still go there quite often for business and social reasons. I can say, as a Protestant, that intolerance in France, Italy and Germany is not feared from Muslims but from the Catholic Church.

    John Paul II made an ecumenical effort with outreach to Muslims, Jews, and to the Church of England, which is nominally Protestant, but made no other effort to recognize any of the 350 or so other protestant churches. We are not considered to be Christian, period. I wanted to marry a practicing Catholic in France but, because I was a protestant, the Roman Church would not conduct the service or recognize the marriage, and ultimately forbade the woman from marrying me even in a civil ceremony, and she complied. The same thing had happened to me once in the U.S., when I was just out of college. Of course, you can say that this depends on the woman’s depth of faith; but in any case, it is the Church’s policy.

    On the other hand, I know an Imam of Pakistani origin, living in Nova Scotia, who married a woman who I think is an atheist, but in any case is certainly not muslim and has no intention of becoming one.

    And, back in France earlier this year, I noticed more women with head scarves waddling around in the streets (unaccompanied by a man). Islam already accounts for about 8% of the French population (as opposed to 14% for Catholics) and there is a national council of Islam just as there is for Jews, Catholics and protestants.

    There is nothing for Buddhists yet, though they are also increasing in number, perhaps because most French are atheists and Buddhism is godless; but with such a large muslim population, there has been little reaction except for the issue of wearing head scarves in secondary school, which is now settled. The “problem” of a given religion influencing public life still revolves around the Catholic Church. Early in his presidency, Sarkozy said France had to recognize its Catholic tradition, and the public reaction to this statement was very negative – one of the reasons his popularity began to decline immediately.

    I invite you to indicate any information you may have that the rising muslim population in Europe is giving rise to intolerance unknown among Christians.

  185. 47 seats? I think they need only 39 for control to switch. The senate is now on the bubble? Lets hope so. It is important that this be worse than 1994 for it to fully register with the money men. One more Obama disaster and we are there. And now, a vampire bat flush with cash and rabies to the rescue? It does not get any better.
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    Democratic Despair Increases Labor Clout

    Chris Stirewalt | September 02, 2010

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    The despair that currently grips the Democratic Party is enhancing the clout of big labor in the party.

    The AFL-CIO has joined the other big unions – AFSCME and SEIU – in making lavish promises about mobilization and spending this cycle. At the national AFL-CIO conclave Wednesday, union boss Richard Trumka pledged to spend $40 million across 26 states, including more than 70 House races – all fighting “corporate traitors.”

    With similar pledges from other unions and new rules regarding campaign spending, it’s conceivable that big labor could spend more than $150 million – a staggering sum for a midterm election.

    Every day, another prognosticator has more bad news for Democrats. Today, Larry Sabato predicts a 47-seat gain for Republicans in the House and says the Senate is “on the bubble.” While Democrats continue to enjoy the cash cushion provided by easier fundraising in the majority, the party is in dire need of help, especially when it comes time to get out the vote.

    Trumka is offering a hand – and showing his muscle. The union has already put up a Labor Day ad that shows blue-collar workers in old economy jobs – lots of steel and hard hats, not the kind of clean, green jobs imagined by the Obama Democrats. The AFL-CIO still relies on manufacturing and industry for its dues. Like the Teamsters, the AFL-CIO has never fully embraced the Democratic agenda on the environment.

    The other big unions – SEIU and AFSCME – focus on government workers and low-wage service employees. Then-candidate Obama is definitely an SEIU man, using union president Andy Stern as an adviser and seeing huge expenditures on his behalf – SEIU spent more than $85 million in 2008.

    But Stern is gone and the SEIU is tapped out. And while the group promises big political spending this cycle, it’s not clear what will qualify as “political.” Perhaps new member outreach (that includes handing out voter registration cards) among immigrant service workers in the southwest would qualify. Whatever it is, it seems unlikely that the SEIU will bring the kind of money to bear this year in direct campaign spending as it did during the Stern-Obama salad days.

    Government workers have done the best in the Obama era and AFSCME will no doubt be out in force to show their thanks. While the group has never made the kind of political expenditures as the other big unions, it provides tens of thousands of Democratic ground troops on Election Day.

    But the Obama era has not been as good as labor had hoped. Some choice picks to key appointments and some stimulus spending, yes,. But not Card Check or the kind of infrastructure spending that the blue-collar workers of the high-wage, high-dues unions wanted to see. When unions spent millions to try to defeat White House-backed Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas Democratic primary, it was a warning shot to be sure.

    Rest assured that Democrats are very busy these days assuring big labor that if they are allowed to keep the majority for another cycle, unions will have more to show for it.

    The downside is that the things unions want to hear – more spending, Card Check, etc. – are pretty toxic to voters in swing districts.

    Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/09/02/democratic-despair-increases-labor-clout#ixzz0yNPj5cZf

  186. Jennifer Carroll and that Hillary Clinton joke

    Abel Harding
    September 2, 2010

    We’ve all made comments we’ve later wished could be taken back. Perhaps a joke that may have sounded funny to us, but just came out wrong when we shared it with others.

    For state Rep. Jennifer Carroll, who will be named as Rick Scott’s running mate today, her attempt at a Hillary Clinton joke at a 2004 Southern Republican Leadership Conference, was one of those moments.

    Carroll told assembled Republicans that Clinton, then a U.S. Senator from New York, had been visited by ghosts of presidents past. It went something like this:

    Carroll said Clinton was visited by the ghosts of Presidents Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. According to The Associated Press, the joke had Clinton asking each president what she could do to help the country, and Lincoln told Clinton to go to a theater. Lincoln was assassinated in Ford’s Theater in Washington.

    But Carroll said her intent was never to imply Clinton should suffer harm.

    “You infer what you want to infer, but I never said assassinate, or kill or maim,” Carroll told The Associated Press.

    The joke earned Carroll a reprimand on FOXNews by Bill O’Reilly.

    http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/abel-harding/2010-09-02/jennifer-carroll-and-hillary-clinton-joke

  187. If it were me, I would do a utube video of Trumpka morphing into a vampire bat and taking a big bite out of the Statue of Liberty, and card check in a dark alley mafia style. Don’t get me wrong. The American People do need a representative in their showdown with big business, but not Trumka. He speaks only for himself. He he is the type who will wave spears outside the castle gate, and when nobody is looking sneak in the back door and share in the spoils. This guy does NOT speak for the American worker, any more corrupt Andy Stern ever did. Andy was a political star, a darling of big media, and many of his contracts were at or near minimum wage. Make no mistake. Big labor and big business are in pare delicto. If that were not true, our work would be here rather than overseas.

  188. basil9: “Supporting and promoting Islam in this country is evidence of brain washing.

    They wish the US no good. They want only to expand their influence so as to eventually either kill or convert anyone who is not Muslim. Anyone who believes anything other than that is blind.”

    I guess I must be blind. Look at Indonesia, an all-muslim country where there is a secular government and tolerance for other religions. In fact, this tolerance can be seen even in Wahhabite Saudi Arabia, the strictest of the strict as far as muslim laws are concerned, but you can still be of another religion and exercise non-muslim practices in private.

    Having said this, I don’t think anyone here is “supporting or promoting Islam in the US”. Certainly not me.

  189. Another remark about “tolerant” Europe: I spent nearly 20 years there during the Cold War, and met many communists and Marxist historians and journalists. French communists (PCF) were known to be “Stalinist”, but the historians and journalists were of the “Trotskyist” bent, i.e., while remaining Marxist in their analyses of historical and current events, they were thoroughly disillusioned about the Soviet Union. They likened Soviet orthodoxy and that of PCF to that of the Catholic Church, and “trials” of dissidents to those of the Inquisition. They also pointed out that both Stalin and Hitler were admirers, though not followers, of the Roman Church, just as they were admirers, though not supporters, of the British Empire.

    On the basis of my own experience and study, I could only concur.

    Just another reminder to those of us who think Christians have lessons of tolerance to mete out to muslims.

  190. If it is true that the State Department has listed Arizona in a report to the UN as a human rights violator for enforcing federal law, and has thereby put that state on a par with countries who practice torture and genocide then we have a problem. One of the things I find most deplorable about Obama and his administration is the false analogies wherein a hang nail and terminal cancer are the same. In legal doctrine there is something called the rule of proportionality. Not here. If this is true, then I am concerned that support for Hillary will crater. The Republicans will argue that there is no degree of separation between him and her. They are dropping like flies at No Quarter, after Reverend Amy’s Post. And what about voter fraud and intimidation. Surely that is an issue worthy of mention, but I doubt it is in that report. The protection of our sovereignty is bigger than Hillary. It concerns the survival of this nation. Can anyone clarify Hillary’s position for me on this issue? I am not throwing in the towel but we do need clarification here. At a strategic level, it is madness to say to the worlds worst dictators we are no better than you are. Unless that is where the Obama thugs ultimately intend to take us.

  191. I have a friend who has a saying and it goes like this: I will tell you what I am for. But I will also tell you what I am against, so there is no misunderstanding. This is not smart power.

  192. The ground is really moving now. In the last Rassmussen poll Patty was ahead 44 to 48. The general rule is that if the incumbent is in trouble if they are polling under 50%. Lieberman told a friend of mine who ran the ill fated McCain campaign that the Republicans would not win because Washington is a blue state. My friend told him no, it is a red state with a blue hole in the middle. The blue hole is the three largest counties, which cluster around Seattle. Patty’s strength is the unions. They will turn out for her like they always do. I do not know about the young people. The Seattle Times, an otherwise disreputable publication, had a front page article last Sunday predicting that they would not because Barack is not on the ballot and they are despondent about the economy. I just told a big Murray supporter not to worry, based on the old Rassmussen poll 2 weeks ago. The ground is moving. Right now, the growing perception is that the entire party is anti American. This is why it is madness to be reporting Arizona to the UN. It is crazy stuff. Crazy. Look at this. Forget about the messenger, forget about the Bush bullshit, listen to the message. The pollsters are adjusting democratic losses upwards, and this is before the vampire bat starts his stuff which will only make it worse. Moon, at the end of the day, what you said yesterday, and I disagreed with may turn out to be right. The voters will blow the doors off. In that case, Hillary needs to avoid traps like Arizona, stay nimble and when the moment is right go for it.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4327601/newt-gingrichs-crystal-ball/?playlist_id=86858

  193. Personally, I couldn’t care less what they are doing and saying at NQ. However, I fail to see what is to be gained by stampeding Hillary supporters declaring ultimatums and stamping our feet saying… “what say YOU Hillary; is this true?” Smart Power is not jumping to the dictates of the faint of heart when they begin demanding answers like “now”… What makes a Hillary supporter stronger than the driveby’s is knowinly allowing the leadership (Hillary) doing their (her) due diligence and reporting back when they have the answers. Hillary’s strength has always been not appeasing people demanding answers, jumping out of their skin with worry, before all the facts are in and processed. The guilt for this behavior happens when people have too much time on their hands and little regard for the readership who take their panic seriously.

  194. Jeswesy,

    I was not addressing you in my post today. I was simply venting after two intense interviews two days in a row with WTC survivors and presenting their POV, much of which I agree with.

    About Indonesia, perhaps you are unaware of the many attacks by Muslims against Christians there?

    by Mathias Hariyadi for AsiaNews, April 28 (thanks to Block Ness):

    Jakarta (AsiaNews) – Thousands of Muslim extremists attacked a Christian educational center in Bogor regency, West Java province, Indonesia. The toll from yesterday’s attack is three destroyed cars and several buildings damaged or burnt. The wrath of fundamentalists was unleashed, and encouraged by the local Council of Ulema (MUI), by unsubstantiated rumours that the Christian community BKP Penabur were planning “to build a place of worship” within the complex.

    Targeted attacks against the Christian community continue in the regency of Bogor, coupled with the impotence of the Indonesian authorities unable to stop the violence with a religious background. Yesterday morning, thousands of Islamic extremists attacked and set fire to the center of the Foundation Penabur BPK, despite the garrison erected earlier by hundreds of police.

  195. What makes a Hillary supporter stronger than the driveby’s is knowinly allowing the leadership (Hillary) doing their (her) due diligence and reporting back when they have the answers. Hillary’s strength has always been not appeasing people demanding answers, jumping out of their skin with worry, before all the facts are in and processed. The guilt for this behavior happens when people have too much time on their hands and little regard for the readership who take their panic seriously.

    ======================

    An excellent attitude to remember on many issues and current events, eg the Arizona immigration law, and the non-mosque that is not at Ground Zero.

  196. An excellent attitude to remember on many issues and current events, eg the Arizona immigration law, and the non-mosque that is not at Ground Zero.
    ************
    Brewer had every reason to call the US State Department out on this. And by the way, have you stayed at any YMCAS IN IRAN lately, you know, the ones you compare the MOSQUE to?

  197. Shadowfax
    September 1st, 2010 at 1:06 am
    gonzotx
    August 31st, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “I want your money”…Reagan doesn’t do a lot for me, but it’s funny
    ————–
    Yup, take Raygun and the Rethugs out and it is funny, except the dig on all Dems, including the great one, Bill Clinton.
    *******************

    I love BC. Love him, but everything he did was not perfect. I hated NAFTA,thought it was bad for America, and it was. That great sucking sound of our jobs being sucked out Perot talked about was true.

  198. eg the Arizona immigration law = the hysterical hasty over-reaction of critics of the Arizona immigration law

    They were having a fit before they even looked at the law itself, which accepted an Arizona driver’s license* as the dreaded ‘papers please.’

    *Or many other common documents

  199. #
    turndownobama
    September 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 am

    “An excellent attitude to remember on many issues and current events, eg the Arizona immigration law, and the non-mosque that is not at Ground Zero.”
    _________________________

    And if I know wbb, his post was written ‘as is’ for no other reason than to elevate my BP knowing I am afflicted with “low” blood pressure. It is a gift having wonderful friends at ‘pink’ who at times have the power to jump start your adrenalin (just as a strong cup of coffee) begnning the day smiling, knowing my face was turning pink.

  200. “I do not believe Muslims should be prevented from praying and following their religion in this country – up to a point. But the minute practicing their religion becomes a symbol of victory, or seeks to make inroads into imposing Sharia Law, I say no.”

    ——————
    Basil,

    On this we agree. Well said.

  201. Clinton: US won’t force solution upon Israel, Palestinians

    09.02.10

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that the US is committed to achieving an agreement between Israel and the Palestinians within a year but would not force a solution upon them on Thursday.

    Clinton made the statements at a press conference in Washington as peace talks are being launched.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3948469,00.html

  202. Why should we accomadate their desire to locate the Mosque near the sacred ground of 9/11??? When they build a Church or Synagogue in Mecca, then we can talk.

  203. jbstonesfan,

    My question is why if this mosque project is supposed to bring everyone together, and instead it is causing nothing but heartache among 911 family survivals and Americans all over…why are they even continuing with this doomed project at all?

  204. Blast on gulf oil rig injures 1 worker

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    By William Branigin and Debbi Wilgoren
    Thursday, September 2, 2010; 11:56 AM

    An offshore oil rig exploded Thursday in the Gulf of Mexico, injuring at least one worker, the U.S. Coast Guard said.

    All 13 people on board the Vermilion Oil Rig 380 have been accounted for, and the one who was injured is being transported to a hospital, Coast Guard Petty Officer Bill Colclough said.

    The rig is believed to be on fire, Colclough told CNN in a live telephone interview. He said it has not yet been determined whether there is a leak as a result of the explosion.

    Multiple Coast Guard, Navy and civilian vessels are en route to the site of the explosion west of the location of the April 20 blast on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that caused a massive oil spill.

    The latest blast was reported by a commercial helicopter company about 10:30 a.m. EDT Thursday, the Coast Guard said.

    Seven helicopters, two airplanes and four boats are en route to the site about 80 miles south of Vermilion Bay along the central Louisiana coast, the Associated Press reported.

  205. Remember how I kept posting that the stock market was being propped up by price manipulation – the big financial houses’ computers just trading shares back and forth between themselves to churn fake “volume”? They have been trying really hard to sucker Joe Sixpack Investor into the market again, so they can front run and short the hell out of him just before the next coming crash, and rake in the profits like they did at the last crash when Joe’s 401k lost 50% overnight.

    Well, it appears Joe has wised up, and ain’t biting at that skewed casino bet. Joe is getting out as fast as he possibly can, leaving the big banks to finance the next tank all by their lonesomes, thankyouverymuch. Behold the giant sucking sound that resembles a refrain of “Eff you and your rigged sucker games”:

    ICI reports we have just recorded the 17th consecutive weekly outflow from domestic equity mutual funds, and what’s worse for mutual funds’ depleted liquidity ratios, it is now accelerating, hitting a total of $4.3 billion, a more than 50% increase from last week’s $2.7 billion. YTD outflows have now hit $54 billion, as ever more capital is going into far safer fixed income instruments. And even as mutual funds are now staring outright liquidations point blank in the face, their actual capital keeps declining courtesy of endless redemptions.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/can-you-hear-me-now-17th-weekly-fund-outflow-equity-fund-redemptions-accelerate

  206. jbstonesfan: “Why should we accomadate their desire to locate the Mosque near the sacred ground of 9/11??? When they build a Church or Synagogue in Mecca, then we can talk.”

    Serious problem following you here: Who is “we”? Who is “they”?

    And why should American freedom of expression and religion depend on that of some other country? Should we force our women to wear burqas until such time as freedom of dress is allowed in Saudi Arabia?

    I really don’t follow you.

  207. Janh-this project, the funding of which still remains a mystery, never intended to bring anyone together but to mark yet another spot of Muslim conquest. Like they did to our holiest site in Jerusalem, the temple mount, they would have preferred to put the Mosque right on top of ground zero, but even they knew Bloomberg and Obama could not openly support that.

  208. My question is why if this mosque project is supposed to bring everyone together, and instead it is causing nothing but heartache among 911 family survivals and Americans all over…why are they even continuing with this doomed project at all?
    ————————-
    The party line is one thing. The reality is something else. There is an agenda at work here which extends well beyond the standard bromides. Years ago the New York Times was wrestling with the question of what is a Jew? Now they are wrestling with the analogous question of what is an American.

    I have a friend who is from Iran. He considers himself Persian and he thinks the Mullahs would be a big joke were it not for the fact that they have the reigns of power and are brutal as well as ignorant. He may or may not be a Muslim. I do not ask him that question and he does not ask me whether I am a Christian. It does not matter.

    One thing he said the other day however gave me pause, because it goes to the larger question of what is an American. He said we are a people defined by a constitution and a bill of rights. I did not question that iteration at the time, because what I see in the Obama Administration was and is a wholesale assault upon the Constitution by a would be dictator.

    But, as I reflected on the statement later in the day, I came to a very different conclusion. My friend is a rational thinker and to him the constitution is something which provides a bulwark against what de Tocquiville called the tyranny of the majority. But if that is all it means to be an American then you are vulnerable to a different risk, which is to say the tyranny of the minority, meaning a bevy of Platonic guardians known as the federal courts who are not elected.

    I think there is far more to being an American than accepting whatever the court says being an American. On that point, the testimony of Justice Jackson is instructive–the Supreme Court is not final because it is infallible, but infallible because it is final. And therein lies the rub. This by the way is the stated view of the ACLU which was founded by Lenin’s friend.

    What is an American? To me it is indeed the Constitution and Bill of Rights. But no less it is the Declaration of Independence which is a repudiation of elitist tyranny. And it is the Jacksonian culture of the American People, which has done the work of building this nation and made it a force to be reckoned with in the world. Over time, like English common law it comes to approximate the wisdom of the people which is far superior to that of the elites.

    This is what Buckley had in mind when he said he would rather be ruled by the first 200 names in the Brooklyn phone directory than by the entire faculty of Harvard Law School. How ironic he would say that. Indeed, how prescient.

    So when someone tells you that this country is nothing more than a constitution and a bill of rights, don’t do what I do and say right. Set the record straight as I intend to do when I see my friend later today.

  209. The Rock, Are you telling me there is another oil rig explosion??? OMG, there aren’t any fish now….how is this happening, there hasn’t been oil rig explosions in 30 years and now two on Obama’s watch….this is a little too much…something is going on! I wonder how deep they were drilling this one.

  210. ‘Just another reminder to those of us who think Christians have lessons of tolerance to mete out to muslims.”

    Personally, I have a religion of one, or, actually, five – me and the four parrots I share my home with.

    I have never been much of a fan of any organized religion.

    That being said, at this time in this age there are some which are worse than others in terms of oppression, viciousness, imposing themselves on others and in 2010 Islam tops that list. I agree Christianity (which I do not adhere to) has done horrific things and tortured, maimed and murdered thousands in the name of their religion. But that was roughly 500 years ago. These days I don’t recall hearing of any religious group which has inflicted such violence on others the way Islamic fanatics have. I don’t remember hearing of any other group which preaches suicide bombing as a way to win their god’s love. Facts are facts. Name one time in the past fifty years in which any other religion (except, perhaps, tribal sects) have causued such destruction.

  211. gonzotx

    I hated NAFTA,thought it was bad for America, and it was. That great sucking sound of our jobs being sucked out Perot talked about was true.

    ——-
    I also supported Perot back in the day, thought he was right, loved his humor and charts…but later learned more about Bill and think he is one of the best President’s we have ever had. Was everything he did to my liking, no. Was most of the things he did, great? YUP.

    If Perot had won, would he have been perfect, or even as great as Bill? Who the Hell knows.

    I stand by my comments about your Republican video.

  212. wbboei,
    ‘There is an agenda at work here which extends well beyond the standard bromides.’

    That’s what Domenici says.

    He also said that “They operate on their own timeline” and said there was nearly ten years between the 1993 and the 2001 WTC attacks and he thinks we’re overdue for another.

  213. “We don’t know what caused the rig to catch on fire,” he told CNN, noting the incident is under investigation.

    Asked about concerns regarding oil leaks or pollution, Colclough said “there are reports the rig was not actively producing any product, so we don’t know if there’s any risk of pollution.”

    ——–
    Brings up many questions:
    Rig not under production but people on the deck?

    Explosion from the faulty rig like Deep Water, or from sabotage?

    If sabotage, is it connected to the Deep Water explosion?

    I’m not by a tv, so please keep us update.

  214. confloyd
    September 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    More info here….

    http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/coast_guard_responding_to_rig.html

    or check things out here….

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/02/rescue-efforts-underway-after-oil-rig-accident-in-gulf/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

    And then just for shits and giggles, also a bit of topic, but I guess when they take your shampoo at the airport, you can feel so protected!!

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/02/MNOQ1F6S5P.DTL

  215. “And thirdly, remember, for what I am about to say in response, that I lived for more than 30 years in continental Europe and still go there quite often for business and social reasons. I can say, as a Protestant, that intolerance in France, Italy and Germany is not feared from Muslims but from the Catholic Church.”
    ====================================

    I can say as a Roman Catholic that you write with an anti-Catholic bias. I can also say that Catholic bashing just never seems to go out of style with some people. Hey, sorry if the Catholic Church has a rule about allowing priests to marry only those people who are Catholic. There are avenues for those who want to marry outside the Church, but then, the Catholic Church would not recognize that marriage. That’s what people do when love for each other is greater than love for the Church. Obviously, the lady that you were in love with weighed everything in her decision and decided for herself, right or wrong, that it was important for her to remain a member of her church.

    I love when people bring up the Inquisition as if it happened yesterday. You compare it to Stalinism which is something that occurred within the past 70 years. That’s a dud of a comparison as far as I am concerned. I also love how Islamic apologists comment about the Islam that is practiced in a predominately secular area, like Europe, while ignoring the Islam that is practiced in areas where Muslims predominate. It is not wrong to acknowledge that Islam is starting to make demands of non-Muslims in Europe, demands that should concern non-Muslims. It is also not wrong to acknowledge the difficulties that minority Christians face, including acts of violence, and even death, in areas that Muslims predominate, even in the so-called moderate Muslim countries. You mention Indonesia, and basil9 rightfully corrected you on that. Islam is a threat to western values, much more of a threat than the Christian church under which western ideals have actually flourished. Where in the Islamic world has what we know as western values flourished? When I read how Christians are able to live peacefully in predominately Muslim countries, with the same rights as everyone else, and with the ability to practice their religious beliefs without threats or intimidation, then I will not view Islam in the same manner that I currently do.

    I don’t claim to be an “expert” on anything. Like mj, you seem to confuse my opinion based on what I have read, with expertism. You may have lived 30 years in Europe, hooray for you, and experienced life in certain European quarters wherever that might have been, but that does not make you an expert either. You may have additional knowledge through your personal experiences, but your knowledge could easily be colored by your own biases. How are we to know? Do you have any titles that include the word expert? Probably not because youI would assume that you would have let us know that you did.

    I wonder when the last time either you or mj were asked by some respected university or publication for your “expert” opinions?

    By the way, when is the last time the Catholic Church issued a fatwa to have someone murdered because that person wrote something against the Church? When was the last time the Catholic Church ruled that someone should be stoned for infidelity? When was the last time the Catholic Church preached that apostates should be killed?

  216. nobama….you go and you are right. Yeah the Catholic church is much aligned and has been for centuries. The Catholic Church does alot to take care of the poor….ie, Mother Theresa. I haven’t seen one muslim that did/has done anything close to that and would be happy to hear of one.

  217. SHAWDOFOX

    I think we said the same thing. You only paste part of my quote. I too love BC and voted for him twice, and would vote a third time if I could!(despite NAFTA ) I do remember hearing that Hillary didn’t totally support NAFTA and would look at some “changes”. Don’t remember specifics.

  218. PEROTS CHARTS SOMEWHAT AKIN TO BECK’S. I THINK THAT IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE THEM, SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND.PEROT WAS JUST A FUNNY GUY, EVEN THOUGH NOT TOO SURE HE MEANT TO. I DON’T THINK HE SUFFERED FOOLS TOO GLADLY. SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS

  219. wbboei
    September 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
    If it is true that the State Department has listed Arizona in a report to the UN as a human rights violator for enforcing federal law, and has thereby put that state on a par with countries who practice torture and genocide then we have a problem. One of the things I find most deplorable about Obama and his administration is the false analogies wherein a hang nail and terminal cancer are the same. In legal doctrine there is something called the rule of proportionality. Not here. If this is true, then I am concerned that support for Hillary will crater. The Republicans will argue that there is no degree of separation between him and her. They are dropping like flies at No Quarter, after Reverend Amy’s Post. And what about voter fraud and intimidation. Surely that is an issue worthy of mention, but I doubt it is in that report. The protection of our sovereignty is bigger than Hillary. It concerns the survival of this nation. Can anyone clarify Hillary’s position for me on this issue? I am not throwing in the towel but we do need clarification here. At a strategic level, it is madness to say to the worlds worst dictators we are no better than you are. Unless that is where the Obama thugs ultimately intend to take us.
    __________________

    They say it is true. Brewer was on Greta the other night and she is livid. I have never seen her so angry. She sent Hillary a letter because she said it was the State Department who put them on this list. I also heard today on Fox that Obama is suing Sheriff Arpaia (spelling).

  220. time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2015629,00.html

    How Barack Obama Became Mr. Unpopular

    The Barack Obama that most Hoosiers remember voting for can still be found on YouTube. He stands before a cheering Elkhart high school gymnasium in August 2008, tireless, aspirational, promising a new America of jobs and hope. “We can choose another future,” says the newcomer with the funny name. “So I ask you to join me.”

    Today that view of Obama is harder to find in Indiana. A couple of weeks back and a dozen miles west of Elkhart, hundreds gathered in another school gym — except this time it was for a job fair. With the local unemployment rate above 12% and rising again this summer, about a third of the employer display tables stood empty. Julie Griffin, who voted for Obama in ’08, sat down at the room’s edge, well dressed and discouraged. After 23 years as a payroll administrator at a local RV plant, she got laid off 18 months ago. “Really, what has he been doing?” she said when I asked about Obama’s efforts to help people like her. “I guess I don’t know what he is doing.”
    (See TIME’s 2008 Person of the Year: Barack Obama.)

    Across the gym floor, Joe Donnelly, Elkhart’s pro-life, pro-gun Democratic Congressman, worked the crowd. He was part of the moderate wave that won Congress for Nancy Pelosi in ’06, and he was re-elected with 67% of the vote while campaigning for Obama in ’08. The President has since returned to the region three times, but Donnelly is nonetheless fighting for his political life. In a recent television ad, an unflattering photo of Obama and Pelosi flashes while Donnelly condemns “the Washington crowd.” This is basically a Democratic campaign slogan now: Don’t blame me for Obama and Pelosi. “I’m not one of them,” Donnelly told me when I caught up with him. “I’m one of us.”

    This shift in perception — from Obama as political savior to Obama as creature of Washington — can be seen elsewhere. When Obama arrived in office in January ’09, his Gallup approval rating stood at 68%, a high for a newly elected leader not seen since John Kennedy in 1961. Today Obama’s job approval has been hovering in the mid-40s, which means that at least 1 in 4 Americans has changed his or her mind. The plunge has been particularly dramatic among independents, whites and those under age 30. With midterm elections just nine weeks off, instead of the generational transformation some Democrats predicted after 2008, the President’s party teeters on the brink of a broad setback in November, including the possible loss of both houses of Congress. By a 10-point margin, people say they will vote for Republicans over Democrats in Congress, the largest such gap ever recorded by Gallup.

    White House aides explain this change as a largely inevitable reflection of the cycles of history. Midterms are almost always bad for first-term Presidents, and worse in hard times. “The public is rightly frustrated and angry with the economy,” says Dan Pfeiffer, Obama’s communications director, explaining the White House line. “There is no small tactical shift we could have made at any point that would have solved that problem.” In more confiding moments, aides admit that the peak of Obama’s popularity may have been inflated, a fleeting result of elation at the prospect of change and national pride in electing the first African-American President. As one White House aide puts it, “It was sort of fake.”

    But while these explanations may be valid, they are also incomplete. A sense of disappointment, bordering on betrayal, has been growing across the country, especially in moderate states like Indiana, where people now openly say they didn’t quite understand the President they voted for in 2008. The fear most often expressed is that Obama is taking the country somewhere they don’t want to go. “We bought what he said. He offered a lot of hope,” says Fred Ferlic, an Obama voter and orthopedic surgeon in South Bend who has since soured on his choice. Ferlic talks about the messy compromises in health care reform, his sense of an inhospitable business climate and the growth of government spending under Obama. “He’s trying to Europeanize us, and the Europeans are going the other way,” continues Ferlic, a former Democratic campaign donor who plans to vote Republican this year. “The entire American spirit is being broken.

    …article continues…

    …the most telling line from O’s people:

    As one White House aide puts it, “It was sort of fake.”

    ************************************************************

    …it took them long enough to wake up…

  221. andyp, I suggest you read the letter…its a play on words…Hillary is actually bragging on our human rights issues and how we handle it….the republicans are fearfull of Hillary so they want to take her out…this is what they are going to use against her…you really have to project to get it to mean what the republicans are saying.

  222. #
    confloyd
    September 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    shadowfax, I supported Perot too, LOL! I loved all his chicken stories and charts!
    ——-
    Waddaya know…..Perot fans now PUMAs for Hillary. 😆
    That man was funny as heck and I HATED the way the media cartoons made fun of him being short. One cartoon that really made me made, even if it was funny, was Perot sitting on a couch, big ol’ hat and ears, and his short legs on reached half way to the floor like a three-year-old. I was livid.

  223. confloyd
    September 2nd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
    andyp, I suggest you read the letter…its a play on words…Hillary is actually bragging on our human rights issues and how we handle it….the republicans are fearfull of Hillary so they want to take her out…this is what they are going to use against her…you really have to project to get it to mean what the republicans are saying.

    ________________

    What letter? I am a huge fan of Hillary. Fox keeps saying that they put Arizona on a list of US human rights abuses submitted to the High Commissioner for Human Rights at the UN. If so, this seems pretty shabby.

  224. breitbart.tv/matthews-obama-needs-to-get-rid-of-that-damn-teleprompter/

    ….this is too rich…I know what most of think of Matthews but here he goes off on O and tells him he has to get rid of his damn teleprompter…

    Matthews goes on and on about O just reading words…

    *****************************************

    like the time article above…it has take them long enough to see the obvious…

    this is almost worth an imbed so others can relish the irony and see Matthews desperation..

  225. gonzotx
    September 2nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    SHAWDOFOX

    I think we said the same thing. You only paste part of my quote.
    ———
    I only paste part of someone’s comment to keep the blog rolling and usually there is only a part of a comment that I am reacting to, not the entire post.

    No need to say sorry, all is cool with me.

  226. wbboei, on the matter of the State Department letter to the UN, and the supposed “handing over” of Arizona as a human rights violator, to face judgment at the hands of Libya and others (somebody better tell the residents of Arizona this btw, that they’re being shipped off to Libya to face a tribunal :roll:) — I suggest reading the report.

    You have a powerful analytical mind, I have no doubt that when you do read the report, you will have your own insightful thoughts on this matter.

    When I heard about this controversy starting, I found the report, sat down for about half an hour and read the whole thing. I figured it’s the least I could do for Hillary, considering.

    I have great respect for RRR Amy, I have always enjoyed her writing, but it is my opinion that she is completely wrong on this. I just don’t know how she came to the conclusions that she did, if she has read the whole report, and I would be curious to see some sort of follow up post from her on this matter.

    Here is the link to the whole report, it’s only 30 pages. Notice how for the bulk of the report, the State Department is EXTOLLING the United States record on Human Rights, which is only the beginning of the disparities between the report and that is being said in the media. Anyway, that’s all I’ll say until all people who are curious have had a chance to the read the report for themselves…

    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/146379.pdf

  227. Perot was funny, and got people to listen to his information by using humor.

    Can you imagine the same info without humor…..it would have been dry and put folks to sleep. The ‘so called elites’ hated him for his folksy way, I enjoyed it. I could tell he was smart as a whip behind the country humor.

  228. SHAWDOFOX

    I could change my name to Shadowfox, but it would have a different meaning, and LOTR gets my vote. 😆

  229. nomobama, much of what you say is justified, but you are sidestepping your original assertion and my reaction to it. That is, you said you would take “tolerant” Europe as a litmus test for how well Islam melds into western culture, and you took gonzotx’s article as evidence of how badly the process is going in Britain, which is largely extraneous to Europe.

    No university has ever tagged me as an “expert” on this issue, but then again no university has ever tagged anyone as an expert on an issue that you just made up yourself, upthread. I do, however, have pertinent personal experience on the matter of the rising population of muslims in Europe and on the question of religious tolerance in Europe, which was the issue you raised.

    Concerning my anti-Catholic “bias”, I admit it: it is not spin and it is not hidden. It is based on personal experience and on my education. Also remember, as I said upthread, that I am hostile to Islam and Mormonism as well. You made no objection to that.

    As to Confloyd’s assertion that the Church has done much for the poor, this is true. But her assertion that muslims don’t do anything for the poor is based on ignorance or sheer blindness. For example, the main reason why so many Afghans have been welcomed in Pakistan is that the Pakistanis have a moral obligation to support them. They could have turned the Afghans back at the border, but they didn’t. I suppose they wouldn’t do the same thing for Christians or Hindus, but they certainly go out of their way to provide hospitality for the needy while they are themselves not a rich country. This obligation is universal in the muslim world. Then there is the question of the Islamic banks, which function without interest rates. I don’t know how they do it, but that is because of a religious interdiction of usury. Christians used to be prohibited from usury too, and only Jews could practice it. There are other examples of what muslims view as righteous behavior, but I don’t know them all. In any case, it is outright false to claim that Christians, or Catholics, have a copyright on the bleeding heart.

  230. Clinton to attend Sept. 14-15 Mideast peace talks

    Thu Sep 2, 2010

    WASHINGTON, Sept 2 (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and U.S. special envoy George Mitchell will take part in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in the Middle East on Sept. 14-15, Mitchell said on Thursday.

    Mitchell said no decision had been made for the venue of the talks.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSWEN936520100902

  231. But the minute practicing their religion becomes a symbol of victory

    ================

    Becomes FOR WHOM? For Gingrich? For the KKK?

    Anyone can make a ‘symbol’ out of anything. Hillary’s candidacy ‘became’ a symbol of racism for the Bots. Words ‘become’ code words for racism. Etc.

  232. Here we go again…..
    Good thing that the Deep Water oil gusher “has all disappeared” with this new leak starting.

    The poor people and wild life have no chance…….

    —–

    NEW ORLEANS, La. – A mile-long oil sheen spread Thursday from an offshore petroleum platform burning in the Gulf of Mexico off Lousiana, west of the site of BP’s massive spill.

    Coast Guard Petty Officer Bill Coklough said the sheen, about 100 feet wide, was spotted near the platform owned by Houston-based Mariner Energy Inc.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_rig_explosion;_ylt=Ag0BTLcOpUXDFghL22Lcc36s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsM2l2M2E2BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTAyL3VzX2d1bGZfcmlnX2V4cGxvc2lvbgRjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzIEcG9zAzgEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA29pbHNoZWVuc3ByZQ–

  233. basil9: “Personally, I have a religion of one, or, actually, five – me and the four parrots I share my home with.”

    That’s pretty much like me, except I have no parrots. I am a (Quaker) Christian Taoist (multitheistic), which I think is unique. Maybe my cat shares my religion with me, don’t know…

    “I have never been much of a fan of any organized religion.”

    Ditto

    “These days I don’t recall hearing of any religious group which has inflicted such violence on others the way Islamic fanatics have. I don’t remember hearing of any other group which preaches suicide bombing as a way to win their god’s love.”

    OK, no one’s trying to justify “Islamic fanatics”, but suicide bombers were originally called kamikazes, if you remember, in reference to the Japanese “divine wind” suicide pilots of WWII. The Japanese thought of it first, perhaps with religious reasoning (the Emperor this or that…), but the important thing about suicide bombing is that it is driven by desperation.

    There was one woman who exploded herself in Israel, for example, leaving behind a video explaining that the Israelis had killed her husband and children and she had nothing left to live for. Other suicide bombers have left behind videos showing they are motivated otherwise.

    I’ve said before on this blog that I have known only 8 muslims for any length of time. None of them were fanatics, but they all explained to me that life for a muslim is nothing. Everything they do on earth is supposed to be in submission to Allah’s will, so that when they die they will be received in heaven and rewarded. So that’s it: life means nothing.

    This, I think, explains why it is possible to find devout muslims who are willing to blow themselves to smithereens and take others with them: Allah will know who was good and who was bad; the good will be rewarded by Allah and the bad will go to hell.

    Not to offend you with history, but a similar line of reasoning was used by the Pope when he ordered the French king to slaughter everyone in Albi, the “Albigensians”: It translates roughly as “Kill them all and God will separate the white sheep from the black.” There is also the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible.

    You want a reference in recent times and there is none, as far as I can think of. But suicide bombing is only a tactic. What are we to think of those “fanatical muslims” who fight the same way we do, on the battlefield? Al Qaeda engaged us in Iraq. Didn’t they have a right to? We spent years trying to convince the Sunnis to give up its support from Al Qaeda, based on the fact that Al Qaeda was foreign to Iraq. And we weren’t foreign to Iraq? When you get right down to it, we’re complaining about “fanatical muslims” when they have every right to fight for what they believe in, whatever their religious beliefs, in Iraq or Afghanistan. What right do we have to go half way around the world hunting for “fanatical muslims” to kill?

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