Obama The Muslim Enters The Mosque Of Doom

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? Two polls released last week were a shock to Big Media and Obama acolytes because of the increased belief among Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim (and even more Americans either do not know or perhaps refuse to believe the Obama protestations about his religious identity). The PEW poll was taken before the Mosque of Doom became an issue. The Time magazine poll was in the field on the Monday and Tuesday after Obama bungled into the Mosque of Doom controversy.

PEW:

“A new national survey by the Pew Research Center finds that nearly one-in-five Americans (18%) now say Obama is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009. Only about one-third of adults (34%) say Obama is a Christian, down sharply from 48% in 2009. Fully 43% say they do not know what Obama’s religion is. The survey was completed in early August, before Obama’s recent comments about the proposed construction of a mosque near the site of the former World Trade Center.

The view that Obama is a Muslim is more widespread among his political opponents than among his backers. Roughly a third of conservative Republicans (34%) say Obama is a Muslim, as do 30% of those who disapprove of Obama’s job performance. But even among many of his supporters and allies, less than half now say Obama is a Christian. Among Democrats, for instance, 46% say Obama is a Christian, down from 55% in March 2009.”

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? It’s not because being a Muslim is a dirty thing to be. It’s because every day the Big Media and Barack Obama created delusions during the primary and general election campaigns of 2008 are proven a lie. So why not be willing to believe that Obama’s words about his religion are also a lie?

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? It’s not because being a Muslim is a dirty thing to be. The short answer is because increasingly Americans wake up in the morning and go to bed at night reciting our mantra as revealed truth:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

Big Media protects Barack Obama now as during the elections of 2008. Big Media sold Obama as a great communicator. Now, the illness of leg tingles when Obama speaks have been cured by the reality of Obama actions and the realization that the words themselves are just sugar water platitudes and phony baloney.

David Paul Kuhn yesterday wrote about the now discredited premise that Barack Obama is a “great communicator”. Kuhn wrote,, “The conventional perceptions of Obama were flawed from the outset.” Kuhn cites the Mosque of Doom, the AIG bonuses, the BP oil gusher, the purge of David Paterson, the “bitter” slap at small town America, and other Obama created disasters of communication.

Kuhn recites all the many advantages Obama enjoyed in 2008 but sums up the end result as “But in the end, it was still the market crash that assured his victory.” Big Media did not vet Barack Obama, attacked Obama opponents with JournoLister fury and connivance, and swooned at every Obama utterance.

All the hype, all the “great communicator” verbiage, all the Hope and Change sloganeering, is now viewed as not congruent with reality or the truth. So why shouldn’t Americans now begin to question the most fundamental elements of an Obama they realize they do not know at all.

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? There’s the full name. Today is one of the few times we have employed Barack Obama’s full name. During the 2008 primary campaigns and subsequently anyone who dared mention the unmentionable middle name was tarred as a “racist” or “Islamaphobe”. Byron York remembers the great unmentionable:

“You a Muslim?”

“Grandfather was,” Obama said, according to his memoir Dreams From My Father.

Smitty’s question, which Obama didn’t exactly answer, prefigured a controversy that continues to this day.

A new poll by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life shows that 18 percent of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. That is up from the 12 percent who believed that in October 2008, just before Obama was elected president.

At the same time, the number of Pew respondents who say Obama is a Christian — in Dreams From My Father, he describes his conversion to Christianity under the tutelage of Rev. Jeremiah Wright — has declined from 51 percent in October 2008 to 34 percent now. And the number of people who say they don’t know Obama’s religion is growing, from 32 percent back then to 43 percent today.

The White House blames the situation on a “misinformation campaign” from Obama’s opponents. But Obama and his aides might also blame themselves for the way they’ve handled the Muslim issue over the years.

The question did not come out of nowhere. As Obama said, his grandfather was a Muslim. His father was raised a Muslim before becoming, by Obama’s account, “a confirmed atheist.” Obama’s stepfather was a Muslim. His half-sister Maya told the New York Times that her “whole family was Muslim.”

Obama spent two years in a Muslim school in Indonesia and later, in a conversation with the Times’ Nicholas Kristof, described the Arabic call to prayer, the beginning of which he recited by heart, as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” Given all that, it is entirely accurate and fair to describe Obama as having Muslim roots.

Yet during the campaign his aides shouted down even a measured discussion of the topic, and Obama’s critics could face ostracism simply for uttering the candidate’s middle name. In December 2007, with the Iowa caucuses approaching, former Democratic Sen. Bob Kerrey, a Hillary Clinton supporter, said of Obama, “I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There’s a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal.” Kerrey’s remarks caused an uproar — one TV commentator wondered whether they were “poisoning the well” — and Kerrey later apologized.”

Barack Obama and Big Media JournoListers attacked anyone who mentioned the unmentionable middle name. But then on the bungled Oath of Office on Inauguration Day Barack Obama declared himself Barack Hussein Obama. Obama flashed the “Hussein” on and off – just like the flag lapel pin he disdained with high minded words – only to ostentatiously wear when it convenienced him and his not proud of America wife.

The “Christian” label, like the flag lapel pin, like the “Hussein” middle name was a sometime thing. During the Jeremiah Wright episode we quoted the New York Times:

“Mr. Obama is particularly vulnerable because voters are still getting to know him, said Democratic and Republican strategists — and a few voters as well. The Wright affair “makes me question other things. What else do we not know?” asked Karen Norton, 58, a computer saleswoman in North Carolina and a Republican who said that, until now, she had been stirred by Mr. Obama’s message of national reconciliation.”

What else do we not know?” The answers are coming in fast and furious and that is why Barack Obama is in daily worsening trouble. Byron York details the Obama hypocrisy as to his Muslim roots:

“Eighteen months later, when President Obama traveled to Cairo for a long-awaited speech to the Muslim world, the White House was saying, and the press was reporting, the same thing Kerrey had to apologize for. “President Obama is now embracing his Muslim roots,” ABC News’ “Nightline” announced. “President Obama’s speech … was laced with references to the Quran and his Muslim roots,” said USA Today. “Obama touched on his own Muslim roots,” reported the Associated Press.[snip]

Pew asked respondents how they learned about Obama’s religion. Most who believe Obama is a Muslim say they learned it through the media. But 11 percent say they learned it through Obama’s “own words and behavior.” Perhaps they read the White House press pool reports, which often describe Obama heading out to play basketball or golf on Sunday mornings.”

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? It’s not only the golf on Sunday mornings and the decades of attendance at the pulpit of “God Damn America” Jeremiah Wright. It’s not only the Obama family tradition of not observing the Christmas holidays with exchanges of gifts as most Christians, even the poorest observe. Perhaps the Obama’s are Jehovah’s Witnesses. Perhaps Antoin “Tony” Rezko performed Santa duties and donated bags of money and that was Christmas. Whatever his religious affiliation or possible atheism there are other reasons to believe Obama is not completely forthcoming on this belief system issue as with everything.

Recall the necessary do-over inaugural oath of office during which no Christian Bible could be found in the White House library or any room in the White House. No Obama lackey or Obama family member thought to cross the street to get a Bible from a nearby church, a Gideon donation hotel Bible, or passerby tourist Bible – if there was a concern on that special day to express religious devotion?

Obama did make a great show, an ostentatious display, of a Lincoln Bible at the official and televised proceedings in order to steal himself into the Lincoln lineage, but in private, the oath was a secular affair. Perhaps its the lackadaisical attitude of the Obamas and their fellow travelers who did not think it would matter to Americans that the Bible was not an Obama concern at all – simply because a Bible is not specifically legally mandated in the Constitution as the oath is?

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? Perhaps it is that the church Obama attended, for decades, celebrated, on the Sunday after September 11, the destruction of the Twin Towers, and the death of thousands of Americans at the hands of organized Islamic hatemongers, with “God Damn America!”

Perhaps it is because Obama was not outraged enough, thought his church was some sort of normal, did not denounce the “God Damn America!” pastor/friend/mentor until that pastor/friend/mentor of decades insulted Obama personally. Muslim bodies were pulverized at ground zero along with Christians and Jews and Sikhs and those of other faiths – but it was a certain rabid Muslim sect and political ideology that championed the attacks. And it was at Obama’s purported “Christian” church where “God Damn America” chants joined “Death to America” chants coming from the caves of Afghanistan and the golden mosques of Saudi Arabia.

Why do so many Americans believe Obama is Muslim? Because increasingly Americans don’t trust Obama and his lies are becoming all too transparent. It is not that being a Muslim is the problem. Perhaps it is the cancellation of the National Day of Prayer? Perhaps it was the stated Obama desire and plans of no traditional Nativity scene in the East Room that is responsible for the head turning poll responses. No doubt it is the sense that Obama has been dishonest for too long about too many things.

There was also the Cairo speech with its ugly adoption of Muslim extremist grievances and distortions of history. There was no mention of Bill Clinton and General Wesley Clark and the fight to save Muslim lives at Obama’s Cairo speech. There was Obama “the Arabs’ lawyer” at Cairo and the insults to Israel, which did not merit a visit, on the Cairo trip. There was also the snub of Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu. No surprise then that Jews are joining seniors in an Exodus from the once great, now dead, Democratic Party.

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? One large part of the puzzle is that Big Media and the front line shock troops propaganda cadre from JournoListers have been projecting and protecting the many Obama fairy tales so that when Big Media assures Americans that Obama is X Americans immediately suspect the truth is Y.

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? Not because “Muslim” is a dirty word and not because all Muslims are to be feared. But Americans have learned from shattered lives and crumpled buildings that there is a such a thing as “stealth” jihadists who will flim-flam to get into positions of trust. Americans have learned that some, certainly not all and not even a significant in numbers group, of Muslim jihadists will deceive in order to destroy.

Christopher Hitchens, the Hillary Hater and cancer ridden walking corpse, today writes about Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the wannabee builder of the Mosque of Doom which Obama wants built before he does not know if he wants it built. Hitchens has called opposition to the Mosque of Doom “stupid and demagogic“. Hitchens also says this about the stealthy Imam Rauf:

“From the beginning, though, I pointed out that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf was no great bargain and that his Cordoba Initiative was full of euphemisms about Islamic jihad and Islamic theocracy. I mentioned his sinister belief that the United States was partially responsible for the assault on the World Trade Center and his refusal to take a position on the racist Hamas dictatorship in Gaza. The more one reads through his statements, the more alarming it gets. [snip]

I do not find myself reassured by the fact that Imam Rauf publicly endorses the most extreme and repressive version of Muslim theocracy. The letterhead of the statement, incidentally, describes him as the Cordoba Initiative’s “Founder and Visionary.” Why does that not delight me, either?

Emboldened by the crass nature of the opposition to the center, its defenders have started to talk as if it represented no problem at all and as if the question were solely one of religious tolerance. It would be nice if this were true. But tolerance is one of the first and most awkward questions raised by any examination of Islamism. We are wrong to talk as if the only subject was that of terrorism. As Western Europe has already found to its cost, local Muslim leaders have a habit, once they feel strong enough, of making demands of the most intolerant kind. Sometimes it will be calls for censorship of anything “offensive” to Islam. Sometimes it will be demands for sexual segregation in schools and swimming pools. The script is becoming a very familiar one. And those who make such demands are of course usually quite careful to avoid any association with violence. They merely hint that, if their demands are not taken seriously, there just might be a teeny smidgeon of violence from some other unnamed quarter …

As for the gorgeous mosaic of religious pluralism, it’s easy enough to find mosque Web sites and DVDs that peddle the most disgusting attacks on Jews, Hindus, Christians, unbelievers, and other Muslims—to say nothing of insane diatribes about women and homosexuals. This is why the fake term Islamophobia is so dangerous: It insinuates that any reservations about Islam must ipso facto be “phobic.” A phobia is an irrational fear or dislike. Islamic preaching very often manifests precisely this feature, which is why suspicion of it is by no means irrational.”

Hitchens on his last days on this Earth relates looking at the minaret of the biggest Washington, D.C. mosque. It is where George W. Bush went after 9/11 to express hopes for peace. [Yes, that alleged warmonger Bush could have led the United States into a Kristallnacht of anti-Muslim violence – but instead he reverently respected American Muslims who had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks and many of whom are good people.]

Hitchens relates how a wife of an ambassador taking her dog for a walk hear the mosque “when a bearded man accosted her and brusequely warned her not to take the animal so close to the sacred precincts”. Muslim cabdrivers in the nation’s capital, Hitchens relates are increasingly refusing to accept passengers with “unclean” dogs. Hitchens also dislikes the “display of flags outside, purportedly showing all those nations that are already Muslim.” There is also the proposed by Muslims United Nations resolution “that would circumscribe any criticism of religion in general and of Islam in particular.”

No doubt Hitchens’ article is a response to the disgraceful Time magazine current issue, “Is America Islamophobic?” For all its faults, and all its hypocrisies, and all its shortcomings and failings, it is the United States which enshines in Article VI of its Constitution that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” JFK overcame the “Papist” label with his forthrightness and honesty and gave deeper meaning to Article VI of the great American Constitution. No one doubted which country had JFK’s allegiance.

Why do so many Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? It’s not because of hate of Muslims or intolerance of Muslims. But it certainly is a fear of a certain type of Muslim. As we have always warned there are rotten people and they come in all colors, shapes, genders, and religions. There are rotten people everywhere including high office.

Americans have to be excused for believing anything and everything about Obama. It was the Obama campaign that exploited the strategy of letting the voters project their hopes and fears and dreams unto the blank slate which was Obama. Now that blank slate is the aged and corrupt Picture of Dorian Hussein Gray.

Remember how Obama disdained old issues from the 1990s and the 1960s? Obama promised he would “turn the page“. That’s not quite what he has done. If anything the culture clash is back full force. Whether it is illegal immigration or the Mosque of Doom, because of Barack Obama – the fight is on.

Why do Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim? It’s not because Muslim is a dirty word. A great deal of it is that many Americans understand Big Media protected Obama instead of vetting him. Americans still don’t know who this guy is. Americans knew who Hillary Clinton is. Americans knew who John McCain is. But Barack Obama was protected from prying eyes.

Big Media protected Obama and attacked anyone who explored his past or his character. Questions about Barack Obama’s finances, his investments in biotech stocks (followed quickly by political actions which would help those stocks rise), Michelle Obama’s remarkable raise in salary after Obama earmarked her employer money, the assertions of European travel that has still never been disclosed, the Pakistan trip we did not know about until after the election – are all questions that have never been answered about Barack Obama.

Even before the Mosque of Doom, which has surely aggravated the doubts, less than half of Obama SUPPORTERS believe he is a Christian. This religion question is a proxy way of saying:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

We do not care what Barack Obama’s religion, if any, is. We do care what Obama says about his religion or anything else. We do not believe Barack Obama. We do not trust Barack Obama.

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181 thoughts on “Obama The Muslim Enters The Mosque Of Doom

  1. Today is also election day in Florida (this might be the day that Marco Rubio effectively becomes a U.S. Senator).

    John McCain will also likely win his primary in Arizona. Alaska, Oklahoma and Vermont also have primary elections today.

  2. Howard Dean and Harry Reid have company. The current Miss America wants the Mosque of Doom to move:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ground_zero_mosque_imam_says_radical_7rGRZmCD1Lh7sf2QSiYSRJ

    The reigning Miss USA has come out against the Ground Zero mosque, saying “it shouldn’t be so close” to Ground Zero.

    The 24-year-old Rima Fakih, is the first Muslim winner of the Miss USA contest and is preparing for the Miss Universe Pageant, scheduled for Monday in Las Vegas.

    “I totally agree with President Obama with the statement on Constitutional rights of freedom of religion,” Fakih told “Inside Edition” in an interview that will air tonight.

    “I also agree that it shouldn’t be so close to the World Trade Center. We should be more concerned with the tragedy than religion.”

    It’s always amazing that Big Media trumpets America as some Muslim hating country that has to prove its “tolerance”. Miss America is a Muslim and there has not been a backlash nor a whimper of protests.

  3. To me it does not matter much whether Obama is a Muslim as the record suggests and he denies, any more than it matters that he is a Christian because if you assume that is the case then you must confront the harsh truth that he comes from a Christian Church that preaches a fire and brimstone racial hatred. On the question of religion, my best guess is that he is really an atheist who plays all ends to the middle.

    The overriding question to me is whether he is American, and when I say that I am not talking about where he was born, but whether he has any empathy for the American People and any respect for their traditions. I believe the honest answer to that question is an emphatic no. I am not proposing a litmus test. All I am saying is if you look at the totality of circumstances that is the ineluctable conclusion. If he is not an American, then what exactly is he? He told us in Berlin that he was a citizen of the world. To me he is a rootless cosmopolitan.

  4. Yep, he has Muslim roots, Muslim ancestry, and a Muslim name to boot which he tauntingly used at the inauguration after banning its use, even innocent ones during the campaign and now he and his cronies are surprised that people think he is Muslim.

    Take a look at this link. Here is an Obama lackey, Brennan, the counter terrorism expert. I absolutely despise the way he looks and even more the fact that he is ignorant but arrogant.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRqecTQbR5g

    more at http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/aug/23/wh-counter-terrorism-adviser-brennan-storms-out-tw/

  5. Turndown: for what it is worth, here is the right wing rebuttal to the Media Matters position. It elucidates certain things about this great moderate Muslim which Media Matters conveniently ignores. No surprise that. We do not have to believe this account either if we do not want to. But at least we have both sides of the story. And if by chance the question is too close to call then perhaps the fact that Obama supports this man should convince us not to do so ourselves.

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/transcript/closer-look-rhetoric-man-behind-mosque

  6. ouch…

    It was a gentle but unmistakable nudge President Obama gave Representative Charles B. Rangel recently, suggesting in an interview three weeks ago that Mr. Rangel, 80, should retire to “end his career with dignity.”

    At a tense and sometimes fiery candidates’ forum Monday night, Mr. Rangel shot back that it was not his dignity the president should be worried about.

    “Frankly, he has not been around long enough to determine what my dignity is,” Mr. Rangel said of the 49-year-old Mr. Obama. “For the next two years, I will be more likely to protect his dignity.”

  7. Comment seen on John Smart:

    I find it strange that the same people who rail against the Christian religious right are bending over – backwards – for the Muslim right. How does that make sense? Aren’t Muslims also on the “wrong side” of just about every liberal issue? Even the “moderate” ones?

  8. Pm317, you pose a great question with that comment. Mormon churches were attacked because of their support for the California anti-Gay ballot initiative. The Catholic Church is often under attack because of abortion. There are plenty of times when the “tolerance” is not there. But with Mosques and Muslims there appears to be another standard. We did not participate in “Draw Mohammad Day” but we acknowledged it and discussed the situation. Where were the “tolerance” advocate organizations when it was Muslims murdering real journalists and issuing fatwas against people they don’t like?

    We don’t expect that the Mosque of Doom will be hosting a book club discussion of The Satanic Verses with Salman Rushdie anytime soon.

  9. Admin, the lefty liberals are hypocrites. They will support issues that don’t personally effect them in the name of ‘ideals and high principles’. It is their claim to superiority. What is that Great Gatsby line: “They were careless people, Tom and Daisy — they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

    We can’t let the Righties off the hook — they are ignorant but also kind of stupid because they can’t play the mindgames that the lefties do (which is probably a good thing in certain instances).

  10. The funny thing is pm317, that the muslim right would take everything the libs stand for and flush down the toilet and wouldnt think twice about it. There would be no discussion. The fundamentalist idea of discussion is to bury you in the ground and throw large stones.

  11. moononpluto, exactly right. You would think the lefties would come down on the side of woman being stoned to death but no they want us to be tolerant of the men who think it is their religion to stone the woman to death.

  12. Some troll on another site suggested that the reason we have not had another 911 attack is because of the Muslim prayers. Well except maybe for that little episode in Fort Hood Texas which Obama cautioned us not to prejudge like he prejudged the Gates matter, and once again it is a case as do as I say and not as I do. The suggestion that our salvation was gained through Muslim prayers ergo we need more mosques so there can be more Muslim prayers was greeted with the derision it deserved. But why this push for America to accept this mosque, when other faiths do not enjoy this kind of state sponsored support and many American Muslims do not favor it. You could argue that this is the way to widen and deepen the currents of moderation in the western and muslim worlds, but judging by the reaction it seems to be having the very opposite effect. The answer is follow the money. I will give you odds that the Saudis are behind mosque at ground zero, Obama marches to their drum and dimocrarts will always march to Obama’s drum except at election time when they pretend not to.

  13. I will give you odds that the Saudis are behind mosque at ground zero, Obama marches to their drum and dimocrarts will always march to Obama’s drum except at election time when they pretend not to.

    What to make of the odd Spanish vacation of MO’s?
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26884

    Build the GZ mosque if you can raise money within America from Muslims and Christians alike and everyone else. If it is the tainted money from the Saudis, then you are giving away a part of America to the truly ‘infidels’ who don’t really appreciate your way of life and your ideals and principles.

  14. “Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.“
    =====================

    This is the motto I live by. I would like to have tee shirts made with this slogan ™.

  15. Tolerance for the intolerant, not for me..

    Hitchens speaks our language:

    Emboldened by the crass nature of the opposition to the center, its defenders have started to talk as if it represented no problem at all and as if the question were solely one of religious tolerance. It would be nice if this were true. But tolerance is one of the first and most awkward questions raised by any examination of Islamism. We are wrong to talk as if the only subject was that of terrorism. As Western Europe has already found to its cost, local Muslim leaders have a habit, once they feel strong enough, of making demands of the most intolerant kind. Sometimes it will be calls for censorship of anything “offensive” to Islam. Sometimes it will be demands for sexual segregation in schools and swimming pools. The script is becoming a very familiar one. And those who make such demands are of course usually quite careful to avoid any association with violence. They merely hint that, if their demands are not taken seriously, there just might be a teeny smidgeon of violence from some other unnamed quarter …

    As for the gorgeous mosaic of religious pluralism, it’s easy enough to find mosque Web sites and DVDs that peddle the most disgusting attacks on Jews, Hindus, Christians, unbelievers, and other Muslims—to say nothing of insane diatribes about women and homosexuals. This is why the fake term Islamophobia is so dangerous: It insinuates that any reservations about Islam must ipso facto be “phobic.” A phobia is an irrational fear or dislike. Islamic preaching very often manifests precisely this feature, which is why suspicion of it is by no means irrational.

  16. Admin: WOW! You are really nailing down his coffin! … p.s. Great to have you back! Have always worried a little about your safety
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Lorac, thank you for the compliment.
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    • Betty
    August 24th, 2010 at 7:56 am
    turndownobama
    August 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    “You can be as uber liberal as you want, for me I will never support or defend a psudo-religion which denies the basic humanity of half the human race.”
    —————————-
    Bravo! If we ask governments to raise themselves out of barbarism, we must ask religions to do the same.
    Each religion claims to have the only truth straight from the mouth of a god. That basic tenet alone establishes intolerance and provokes conflict.
    As for rituals of human sacrifice and slavery, they still exist and must not be condoned if humanity is to evolve intelligently.

  17. For those that get upset when Bill Clinton “praises” Obama there is the article by Howard Fineman (which JanH posted earlier) that tracks what we have written about before. When Bill called Obama “brilliant” we wrote about how what Bill said and what he actually said are two different things. Here’s Fineman:

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/23/bill-clinton-campaigns-for-obama-or-does-he.html

    If you’re President Obama, here is a galling fact: most Democrats would rather have Bill Clinton campaign for them this fall than, um, you.

    “Part of it is that Bill Clinton is, at this point, a sympathetic story and has always been a likeable guy,” says Eric Schultz of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee. “But his appeal right now has to do with the fact that voters associate him with a time of prosperity. You can’t say that about either George W. Bush or, unfortunately, Barack Obama.” [snip]

    And when Clinton is “out” there, don’t expect him to fill his speeches with personal praise of Barack Obama. As a lawyer and salesman, Clinton knows that touting Obama as The One is a nonstarter given the president’s plummeting job-approval numbers. But permit me a moment of Machiavellian thinking to suggest that Clinton loves to be in a situation in which he has to make the Democrats’ case by damning with faint praise a man whose campaign he once dismissed as a “fairy tale.”

    I always love listening to Bill Clinton. If you listen carefully, you can see all the gears in motion: he makes himself clear to people who bother to take him seriously. So what is he saying? That this president has “done a better job than he has gotten credit for so far.” (Which is not the same thing as saying that Obama has done a good job.)

  18. “But permit me a moment of Machiavellian thinking to suggest that Clinton loves to be in a situation in which he has to make the Democrats’ case by damning with faint praise a man whose campaign he once dismissed as a “fairy tale” (Fineman)

    Except Clinton “fairytale” remark was not about BO’s campaign, but about his touted “anti” position on the Iraq war, when in reality BO’s voting record as Senator was anything but “anti” — i.e. BO voted to fund the war like HRC and all the other Dems.

  19. Hitchens speaks our language:
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    Hitichens is right but he is also a hypocrite. He could just as easily apply that same logic to Obama, but of course he will not. Obama’s copius use of race baiting has the same chilling effect on our constitutional liberties, and I for one find both to be morally reprehensible. Unfortunately, these issues tend to get determined in elite circles and elite circles are all for this mosque. Neverheless, I doubt it will ever be built.

  20. pm 317: I have it on the best authority that Brennan was once a very credible guy but he has been turned into nothing but a shill since he entered the Obama administration. This impression comes from the very top of the military establishment who are now as dissatisfied with him as we are. I think this is wearing on him however. The stonewalling we see in that video indicates that his tolerance for anything which could lead to criticism is wearing very thin. It is no fun to be on a rudderless ship in irons as a line of storms approaches.

  21. EDITORIAL: The Hillary coup

    Can Mrs. Clinton be bribed into forgoing a 2012 challenge?

    By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Monday, August 23, 2010

    A sure sign that an administration is in trouble is Beltway buzz about making dramatic changes at or near the top. Lately, there has been increasing chatter about moving Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to a new job. The goal of the musical chairs would be to keep her from challenging the politically flailing President Obama in a Democratic primary in 2012.

    Most speculation centers on elevating Mrs. Clinton to the second spot on the ticket. It seems early in the game for a “Dump Biden” movement, but some schemes would move him over to the State Department as a major consolation prize. Joe Biden would then join the list of discarded vice presidents that includes Nelson Rockefeller, Henry Wallace, Schuyler Colfax and Hannibal Hamlin.

    Former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder launched an attack on Mr. Biden earlier this month, saying the veep “has continued to undermine what little confidence the public may have had in him” and ridiculing him for “too many YouTube moments.” An AP-GfK Roper poll conducted shortly thereafter showed 43 percent of Americans had an unfavorable impression of Mr. Biden, though the same poll showed the same result for Mr. Obama, along with 50 percent disapproval of his job performance. If Mr. Biden’s public confidence has been undermined, Mr. Obama’s is in free fall.

    On Sunday, David Ignatius wrote in The Washington Post that making Mrs. Clinton vice president would be Mr. Obama’s “second term masterstroke.” Mr. Ignatius is no Hillary fan. After the election in November 2008, he called her a “big, hungry, needy ego” and said that making her secretary of state would be “a mistake of potentially enormous proportions.” Trading the vice president’s office to forestall Hillary’s shot at the top spot – placating her “needy ego” with a symbolic office of no importance – certainly would be a masterstroke.

    Another option getting batted around is to sideline Mrs. Clinton at the Pentagon. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced he’ll probably retire in December 2011 after the Afghanistan policy review, and Mrs. Clinton might be beguiled at being the “historic” first woman defense secretary. Former Council on Foreign Relations President Leslie Gelb pitched the idea earlier this year and contends the military “loves” her, a crush which is likely to fade if Hillary actually becomes the civilian leader to those in uniform.

    Although sporting, none of the speculation means much at this stage. The size of the expected Democrat debacle in this fall’s elections has yet to play out, and that election will set the initial terms for 2012. Mrs. Clinton has no pressing need to change jobs. Meanwhile, the new documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced,” detailing alleged fraud involved in Mr. Obama’s 2008 nomination, has been gaining more attention in Democratic circles. If Hillary supporters are going to mount a party coup against the first black president, they will need a better argument than that he is a complete disaster in his job.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/23/the-hillary-coup/

  22. Can I just rant a little here??? Who made obama and his thugs Gods? THEY demand a full deal? THEY won’t be satisfied with a partial deal?

    This makes me so angry I could spit.

    —————-

    US official: We want full peace deal in 1 year

    Washington expects Israel, Palestinians to use timeframe given for negotiations to overcome difficulties, strike comprehensive peace, US official tells reports in Jerusalem. America won’t accept partial deal, he said

    Roni Sofer Published: 08.24.10

    A partial peace deal between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, even if achieved within a year, will not satisfy Washington, a US official said Tuesday.

    The American official told reporters in Jerusalem that the upcoming peace summit in Washington aims to strike a full peace agreement between the parties. The official rejected the possibility of “only” a partial or interim peace deal within the timeframe set for the peace talks.

    While the difficulties both parties face are clear, Washington believes that both leaders are ready to confront the difficulties in order to reach peace, he said, adding that the US intends to take an active role in the negotiations.

    While the difficulties both parties face are clear, Washington believes that both leaders are ready to confront the difficulties in order to reach peace, he said, adding that the US intends to take an active role in the negotiations.

    The official stressed that the US does not expect any Israeli overtures or gestures prior to the talks, which will commence – as stated by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton – with no preconditions.

    The talks are expected to focus on all core issues, including Jerusalem, the refugees, borders and all security issues.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3943318,00.html

  23. Re: If Hillary supporters are going to mount a party coup against the first black president, they will need a better argument than that he is a complete disaster in his job.
    ______________________________________________________________
    Yeah, right. The FACT that The Won is a COMPLETE DISASTER IN HIS JOB is no big deal, right? What planet do these loons come from? If one is a ‘complete disaster’ in his/her job anywhere else, they have have been a goner a long long long time ago – fired with no recommendation for the next job.

    The Editorial staff at the Washington Post have gone down the rabbit hole once again, this time head first.

  24. Good article up on the mosque, and how bludgeoning people with accusations of bigotry and religious intolerance is the WRONG way to respond to people’s unease over this.

    turndown, I wish you would read this. I think it answers some of your concerns in a way that you may can understand. One CAN uphold religious rights and diversity without demeaning those with real and logical fears as mere bigots.

    http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2010/08/rhetorical-axes-and-park51

  25. trixta
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    “But permit me a moment of Machiavellian thinking to suggest that Clinton loves to be in a situation in which he has to make the Democrats’ case by damning with faint praise a man whose campaign he once dismissed as a “fairy tale” (Fineman)

    Except Clinton “fairytale” remark was not about BO’s campaign, but about his touted “anti” position on the Iraq war, when in reality BO’s voting record as Senator was anything but “anti” — i.e. BO voted to fund the war like HRC and all the other Dems.

    ===================

    Thanks for a reality point!

  26. trixta at 11:32 a.m., thank you for pointing that out about Fineman misrepresenting Bill’s “fairy tale” comment. BTW, the whole putpose of that Fineman piece is to feed into the meme that the Clintons are constant schemers who can’t be trusted. I don’t buy a word of it.

    BTW, I had forgotten Ignatius said Hillary as SoS would be a big mistake. And now he wants her as veep, lol. What a hypocrite.

  27. Re the article (written by a WOMAN!) I posted above:

    The problem that I see with writing off opposition to the Cordoba mosque as “just a bunch of nasty bigots” is that you are saying that 65% of Americans are nasty bigots. I simply don’t believe that. Our forbearance, and the general LACK of widespread retaliation against Muslims here in the years since 9/11 puts that notion to rest. No, 65% of us are not bigots. There is more going on here than just simple xenophobia.

    It’s a thoughtful article, not a demagoguing one. I think it threads the needle pretty well. One CAN uphold religious rights and diversity without demeaning those with real and entirely logical fears as mere bigots. One can acknowledge the real legitimacy of feelings of distrust, concerns of “What message is being sent by building this?” without endorsing particular actions contrary to liberty.

    I think that may have been what Obama was shooting for in his statements, but to my mind he failed miserably, because he has no real empathy for Americans’ sense of self.

  28. One CAN uphold religious rights and diversity without demeaning those with real and logical fears as mere bigots.

    http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2010/08/rhetorical-axes-and-park51

    ==========================

    I’m afraid Scalia’s article is too generalizing and condescending, like Obama’s “Aw, don’t be so hard on the stupid hicks, they’re just bitter and clinging, etc etc.”

    Different people oppose the project, and/or the location, for different reasons. I haven’t seen a poll that breaks down those reasons. There’s a lot of difference between someone who actually thinks “Islam is an evil religion”, and someone who thinks Rauf is legitimate and sincere but his goodwill attempt is not getting him any goodwill and is likely to get vandalized or worse.

    Unfortunately the “Islam is evil” people are getting a lot of attention and it’s their words and pictures that are going all over the world now.

    I suppose the best outcome now is that they do work out a different location and both sides claim victory.

    Hm, maybe the Greek Orthodox people could buy the Coat FActory at a bargain. But would the the hallowed landmark people let them tear it down, either?

  29. Congratulations to British PM David and his wife Samantha Cameron on the birth of their baby girl, who’s arrived 3 weeks early.

  30. Robert Gibbs stated that barack obama is Christian, and that he prays every day. I read that within the past couple of weeks. He forgot to note how many times barack prays each day. If it’s 5 times, and he does so facing Mecca, then he just might be a Muslim.

    Since, by the time Christmas rolled around, I was so disgusted with obama, that I totally ignored what were the holiday goings on at the White House, I never realized that they did not exchange gifts, etc. I also have not paid all that much attention with regards to obama and michelle never going to Sunday church services. I took it for granted that they probably do attend at least sometimes. With that in mind, you can’t fault people for reacting to what they actually see a politician DO, and not solely on what they hear a politician SAY. obama causes his own problems, that is for sure.

  31. I admit it here. The mantra that the admin has applied to obama is one that I also apply to most Muslims. Sorry, but that is the case. Taqiyya tells me so. I know of no other religion that teaches this concept. It’s built into the religion. Although I like to be able to trust everyone, I am not foolish enough to trust just anyone.

  32. wbboei,

    1. Rauf and Kahn do not speak very good English. She says ‘stakeholders’ when she /obviously means ‘shareholders.’ He says ‘conflagrate.’ Lord knows what he means when he says ‘accessory.’

    2. Hillary’s State Department is financing Rauf’s current trip to the Mideast as a goodwill mission. Either he’s okay, or she’s really fouled up. (As did Bush’s FBI that hired him as a consultant/instructor.)

    If Media Matters is slanted, they’ll be slanted in the opposite direction from Geller. My first thought was to question whether Geller was quoting Rauf’s words accurately. Since MM does not accuse her of misquoting, we can take it that her quotes are accurate (tho in my opinion her interpretation is not). If there were wider context favorable to Rauf omitted, MM would have supplied that. (Unless they fouled up too.) If there were wider unfaborable context, Geller would have supplied it. — So I think that between Geller’s article and MM’s, we probably have reliable quotes of the relevant material from the Hawke event.

    As for other quotes from other occasions (eg 60 Minutes iirc) according to Cordoba’s website this appears to be the same treatment Palin got from Gibson and Couric. Have a long rambling conversation then edit it so as to make the target look bad.

  33. JanH

    [snip]

    Meanwhile, the new documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced,” detailing alleged fraud involved in Mr. Obama’s 2008 nomination, has been gaining more attention in Democratic circles. If Hillary supporters are going to mount a party coup against the first black president, they will need a better argument than that he is a complete disaster in his job.

    ——
    The only good thing about the Washington Times is the attention brought to the documentary, ‘We Will Not be Silenced’!

    What better reason is there for Hillary to run against the Fraud in 2012 then he has destroyed our party and he stinks to high Heaven as a pResident!!

    All the reasoning of these Rethugs makes me livid.

    Not a coup, KARMA!!!!! A do-over for the sake of the country.
    Experience over the great Pretender.
    Truth over smoke and mirrors.

  34. HillaryForTexas, thanks for that article.

    An additional point is that the tactic of race-baiting Obama did during the primaries and the general election and since, as well as the “intolerance” tactic is that it is self-defeating. The tactic of calling the Tea Party “teabaggers” is equally self-defeating.

    Indeed the “intolerance” tactic over the mosque issue is particularly self defeating in the short term. That is because there are so many Democrats who are opposed to the project. It is very difficult and even mindless to a certain extent to attack opponents of the mosque as intolerant bigots when your own party and Independents and Republicans are all on the same side. All the “intolerant” talk does is solidify in opposition within the “Democratic” base.

    Simply as a political tactic, before you attack opponents this way you first must unite your base. But with the majority of Democrats aligned with Republicans and Independents it is self-defeating to launch such an attack. It’s also difficult to launch the attack by going after Gingrich and Palin when you have plenty of top of the line well-known Democrats in opposition as well.

    If such a tactic was to be initiated the mosque supporters like Obama (we presume his mealy mouth verbiage hides support for the mosque) first needed to make sure that people like Reid and Dean as well as others up for election were in agreement. But instead Obama has unleashed the “intolerance” card (a substitute for the “race” card) and then he undermined his own argument and then Reid and Dean further undermined the argument.

    It’s a tactic that is doomed to failure.

    On a side note, Obama’s use of the race card worked to get him what he wanted but he is now paying the price. Those his campaign called “racists” are still angry at him and his people and therefor what used to be the Democratic coalition is in a civil war. The Republicans are united and so they can launch attacks from their secure fortress. Any chess player understands you have to solidify the defenses first before you launch an offense. Same is true in war and in politics.

    The “intolerance” card only makes people angry then angrier and more determined. The polling on this is going to get worse for the mosque supporters. As we have written before, this issue has to be resolved before the start of the campaign season officially opens on Labor Day or the Obama Dimocrats are going to have to carry the economy and the mosque on their backs.

  35. hillaryfortexas said:
    The problem that I see with writing off opposition to the Cordoba mosque as “just a bunch of nasty bigots” is that you are saying that 65% of Americans are nasty bigots. I simply don’t believe that. Our forbearance, and the general LACK of widespread retaliation against Muslims here in the years since 9/11 puts that notion to rest. No, 65% of us are not bigots. There is more going on here than just simple xenophobia.

    and in another post:
    One CAN uphold religious rights and diversity without demeaning those with real and logical fears as mere bigots.

    http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2010/08/rhetorical-axes-and-park51

    ==========================

    Good points. But I’d go further and say that many people’s opposition to the project is not from ‘fears’ at all, even real and logical fears. There are perfectly rational reasons on both sides.

    I’m afraid Scalia’s article is too generalizing and condescending, like Obama’s “Aw, don’t be so hard on the stupid hicks, they’re just bitter and clinging, etc etc.”

    Different people oppose the project, and/or the location, for different reasons. I haven’t seen a poll that breaks down those reasons. There’s a lot of difference between someone who actually thinks “Islam is an evil religion”, and someone who thinks Rauf is legitimate and sincere but his goodwill attempt is not getting him any goodwill and is likely to get vandalized or worse.

    Unfortunately the “Islam is evil” people are getting a lot of attention and it’s their words and pictures that are going all over the world now.

    I suppose the best outcome now is that they do work out a different location and both sides claim victory.

    Hm, maybe the Greek Orthodox people could buy the Coat FActory at a bargain. But would the hallowed landmark people let them tear it down, either?

  36. Good seeing you back admin- Your latest article on President Muslim reinforces my stated position from last night. The tide is turning on Obama and I think he knows it. He must have been very disappointed in the sparse reception from the locals at MV. The turnout seemed to suggest curiosity onlookers rather than genuine fans of the president with the few welcome placards televised in the news reports.
    ___________________________________

    JanH
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    US official: We want full peace deal in 1 year

    “Washington expects Israel, Palestinians to use timeframe given for negotiations to overcome difficulties, strike comprehensive peace, US official tells reports in Jerusalem. America won’t accept partial deal, he said”

    “While the difficulties both parties face are clear, Washington believes that both leaders are ready to confront the difficulties in order to reach peace, he said, adding that the US intends to take an active role in the negotiations.”
    _______________________________________

    Jan, if it makes you feel any better. The rule we follow is if the quote is not attributed to a “name” or claims an anonymous source it is to be dismissed as valid and holding any gravitas whatsoever. In fact, a stressful reaction to the quote is exactly the reaction they were looking for- This article sounds like a remark made at an after dinner soirée by Brzezinski and parroted by a Republican sycophant to a reporter for a blood boiling story meant to create tumult.

  37. turndown, I have seen several people who are willing to give the Imam the benefit of the doubt regarding his intentions, but are concerned at the sheer symbolism of a mosque so close to that site being promoted and used as a hurtful “victory sneer” by radicals worldwide, whether the Imam truly intends that or not.

    Some of the people concerned about that are Muslims themselves. You are right that all the opposition is not all for the same reasons. But in the current environment, one cannot even explore those genuine and honest objections. We’re back to our politicians and press trying to shove us all into one extreme camp or another. I am so sick of this crap. No issue is examined for its own sake, seeking solutions. Every issue is just a tool to score “points” for either R or D.

  38. Now I’ve heard it all…

    – August 24, 2010

    A Clinton Twofer for Obama?

    Will President Obama have the guts to bring two Clintons into his administration?

    Secretary
    Gates has made it clear that he is going to be leaving his cabinet position as Secretary of Defense in 2011. While it is not clear when he is leaving, my guess is that he will be gone by mid-year.

    This leaves President Obama with a opportunity to name a replacement who can choose to implement a different strategy with regard to how the Pentagon does business.

    President Obama cannot afford a partisan Senate
    fight, nor can the country afford to let the position to go unfilled while the Senate dukes it out.

    If the Democratic majority in Senate is reduced by several seats, as has been predicted, it is fair to assume that the president will be looking for someone with a strong defense background and knowledge, an international reputation and someone who will sail thorough the confirmation process.

    With that in mind, one person seems singularly positioned to assume the post of Secretary of Defense. Her name is Hillary Clinton.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was confirmed by 94 votes for her current position with only two senators voting no. She clearly is well regarded even by Republicans in Congress.

    With two years at the State Department she will have honed her diplomatic skills and on top of that she has also served several years in the Senate as well as having seen creation of policy first hand for eight years in the White House.

    That begs the question, who should fill Mrs. Clinton’s spot at the State Department? The answer is obvious. President Obama will be looking for someone who can project a positive image of the United States, someone who has relationships with leaders in every part of the globe and who is is consummate diplomat.

    There is only one person who meets and exceeds all of those requirements: His name is William Jefferson Clinton. He has already met those requirements. He is well regarded. He understands the nuances of foreign policy, he can schmooze with the best of them and though his Clinton Global Initiative he has made enormous impact worldwide.

    It would take real guts for President Obama to have both Clintons in the two highest cabinet positions, however Mr. Obama showed his mettle when he nominated Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State.

    The world we face in 2011 will require nothing less than President Obama’s full commitment to nominate nothing but the best. I defy anyone to come up with two better choices.

    Ellen Ratner is Washington Bureau Chief for Talk Radio News Service and a Fox News contributor.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/24/ellen-ratner-obama-hillary-clinton-clinton-defense-secretary-state-senate/

  39. CNSNews.com
    Disapproval of Obama Rises to All-Time High, Says Gallup

    Tuesday, August 24, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief

    For the first time in his presidency, Barack Obama’s average weekly “disapproval” rating has hit 50 percent, according to the Gallup Poll.

    Each week, Gallup interviews about 3,500 American adults, asking them whether they approve or disapprove of the job President Obama is doing. On a daily basis, the polling firm publishes a three-day rolling average of the results; and, on a weekly basis, it publishes the weekly average.

    During the week of Aug. 16-22, President Obama’s average approval was 43 percent and his average disapproval was 50 percent. This marked both Obama’s lowest average weekly approval rating in the Gallup poll and his highest average weekly disapproval rating.

    “President Obama’s job approval rating slipped to 43 percent for the week of Aug. 16-22, down one percentage point from the previous weekly low set a week ago,” said Gallup’s analysis of the poll. “The new low also marks the first weekly average in which 50 percent of Americans disapprove of Obama’s job performance. The erosion reflects particularly low ratings at the beginning of last week, including 41% for Aug. 15-17 and Aug. 16-18, the lowest three-day averages of his administration.”

    The Gallup analysis of the poll pointed to a question that cannot be answered by the polling data: Would Obama’s weekly approval rating have been even lower had he not gone on vacation at the end of the week, causing a decline in news coverage of his activities.

    “The president arrived at Martha’s Vineyard, Mass., on Thursday, settling in with his family for a 10-day vacation, and for the most part dropping out of the daily news cycle,” said the Gallup analysis. “Whether this contributed to his slightly better ratings near the end of the week cannot be determined.”

    The full Gallup poll results for the week of Aug. 16-22 show some interesting trends in Obama’s approval rating. These include:

    –For the first time, Obama’s average weekly approval rating dropped below 40 percent among men. In the week ending Aug. 22, only 39 percent of males said they approved of the job Obama is doing. Among females, Obama’s approval rating was 46 percent.

    –For the first time, Obama average weekly approval rating dropped below 40 percent among those in the 50-64 age bracket. Obama’s approval rating increases as the respondents grow younger. His most recent weekly approval rating was 37 percent among those 65 and older, 39 percent among those 50-64, 44 percent among Americans in the 30-49, and 52 percent among those 18-29.

    –No region of the country gives Obama an approval rating above 50 percent. For the week ending Aug. 22, Obama’s approval rating was 37 percent in the South, 43 percent in the Midwest, 46 percent in the West, and 47 percent in the East. Obama’s 37 percent approval in the South marked the first time his average weekly approval dropped below 40 percent in any region of the country.

    –When Americans are sorted into income groups, Obama wins the least approval from those on the bottom end of the middle-class. For the week ending Aug. 22, Americans earning between $2,000 and $4,999 per month gave him an approval rating of 39 percent. This is the first time Americans in any income bracket reported by Gallup gave Obama an approval rating of less than 40 percent. No income bracket gave Obama an approval rating as high as 50 percent. Among those earning less than $2,000 per month, his approval rating was 49 percent. Among those earning $5,000-$7,499 per month, his approval rating was 43 percent. And among those earning more than $7,500 per month his approval rating was 40 percent.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/71542

  40. hillaryfortexas said:
    You are right that all the opposition is not all for the same reasons. But in the current environment, one cannot even explore those genuine and honest objections. We’re back to our politicians and press trying to shove us all into one extreme camp or another. I am so sick of this crap. No issue is examined for its own sake, seeking solutions. Every issue is just a tool to score “points” for either R or D.

    =================

    Yes, and that’s too bad. I feel like saying, “Shhh, not in front of the world press.” This is growing beyond a political football and is liable to bounce back in the form of more terrorism because we’re LOOKING like bigots. The few loudmouthed and dirtymouthed people posting about “evil Islam” are giving the rest of us a bad name. This might actually sway some Muslims and others who have been moderate into sympathizing with the militants instead.

    I don’t see the ‘symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.

    I expect the public will get tired of the controversy and the project will accept some compromise site.

  41. Is Obama a Muslim??? More Kabuki from our single party political system. Just another distraction while the middle class goes into the shitter.

    “The moron card and Obama’s true religion.”

    “The race card having been maxed out (Sorry, Rev. Jackson – but, hey, ya had a good run.) the chattering nimrods have now decided to play THE MORON CARD. The rules are similar to the using the race card. The game is played by insisting that anyone who questions or disagrees with the perceived wisdom of the fatuous ones on high is, by default, an idiot. Same playbook, just replace racist with moron.”
    (snip)

    “Obama’s religion is narcissism. He hasn’t a bone in his body that tends toward spiritual or religious investigation. To be blunt: He’s not curious enough. Narcissism is a full-time endeavor. He’s wrestled with HIS cultural identity. What interests him is HIM. To see Obama correctly one must see him through the religion of narcissism. It explains everything. The adulation trickery at rallies, the flip-flops, the overuse of the words “I” and “unprecedented”, the idiotic intrusion into local issues, the belief that his presence would help the likes of Martha Coakley and Jon Corzine, his annoyance with the press now that some have left the Kool Aid party barge, the disconnect with the country he leads – to see all this is to know Obama worships himself. He’d be a Muslim if it served him in some way. He’d also be Shaker, Quaker, or candlestick maker if being one provided him with sufficient admiration from the masses.”
    (snip)

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/the-moron-card-and-obamas-true-religion/

    IMO, the self-congratulatory crap about the !st Amendment that Obama regurgitated for a picked audience, was purely for the narcissistic “fix” of an increasingly hard to get, standing ovation.

  42. “The few loudmouthed and dirtymouthed people posting about “evil Islam” are giving the rest of us a bad name.”

    No, recognize that lefties putting words in the opponents’ mouth and calling them bigots when they are not is what is contributing to it also.

    I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.

    This is the lamest argument I have ever heard.

  43. “I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.”

    ————–
    So they should be awarded for being monsters? Seems a little backwards to me.

  44. JanH
    August 24th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Now I’ve heard it all…

    A Clinton Twofer for Obama?
    ——-
    Seriously, what is this person smoking?
    May as well admit the facts, Obama just wants to play at being the President, getting all the perks and time off with free prizes, while the Clinton’s run the country in his name.

    What a joke.

  45. Re: I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.

    TurnDownObama, you know I love you, but surely you can not be serious? Somehow I return to thinking about this ‘fundamental transformation of America’ through my father’s eyes. Daddy was a teenager and an underage soldier in some of the most decisive battles during WWII; his father would not sign for him to join the Army, so he changed his birth year – that is how important he thought a WIN would be. I would not want to be the one who stood in front of him and said something like, “I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that important.” My friend, you have just caused my Daddy to REEL in his grave. If symbols of victory are not important, then what do you think of the statue of the men at Iwo Jima and other little symbols like that? No bother, it was a rhetorical question.

  46. There is an article about net neutraility, part of it states: Net-neutrality group challenged by ties to MoveOn.Org, ACORN
    By Sara Jerome – 08/23/10 09:24 AM ET

    A bipartisan coalition in favor of net neutrality has lost a key conservative supporter amid signs that the issue is becoming more divisive.

    The Gun Owners of America (GOA) severed ties with the net-neutrality coalition Save the Internet after a conservative blog questioned the association with liberal organizations such as ACORN and the ACLU.

    The blog RedState described Save The Internet as a “neo-Marxist Robert McChesney-FreePress/Save the Internet think tank” and questioned why GOA would participate in a coalition that includes liberal groups such as the ACLU, MoveOn.Org, SEIU, CREDO and ACORN.

    GOA was one of the charter members of Save the Internet, but a spokesman for the gun rights group said times have changed.
    [snip]for the remainder of the article go to this link:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/115367-as-elections-near-net-neutrality-backers-challenged-by-moveonorg-and-acorn-ties

  47. I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.

    I just shaking my head at this ludicrous statement. Let us build 10 more mosques everywhere and call them ‘victory mosques’ and then we have made sure ten-fold that the evil Taliban or Al Queda ‘may’ not attack us. It is so ludicrous that it does not even have debate value.

  48. turndownobama
    August 24th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    I don’t see the ’symbol of victory’ thing as that importnat, because it only would encourage people who are militant already. And if they think they’ve won already, maybe they’ll slack off on further attacks.

    I expect the public will get tired of the controversy and the project will accept some compromise site.

    Wow, turndown. Appeasement! That always works.

  49. Admin., You’re back!! What a treat it was to come home, go to Hillary is 44 and see a new article. Thanks, we needed that.

  50. one liner wordgames that some people think are too clever..

    I can play the game too..If the wimpy, waffle eating liberals were in charge during WWII, Hitler would have crossed over the Atlantic and occupied NY among others.

  51. Give them an inch, they’ll take a mile or as my father used to say…..give them some rope and they’ll hang you with it eventually.

    I had dinner with some friends of mine, secular muslims, non religious and they tell me a simple thing i knew from many others in this country and they say here about fundamentalists and thats, there is no reasoning with them, they will come into your house, sit and have dinner with you, play nice, accept your hospitality, throw it back in your face and then cut your throat before they leave and wouldnt think twice of it.

    Appeasement never works, the one getting appeased sees it as a sign of weaknesses and pushes the boat even further.

    The PM of Turkey, who is leader of the AKP (islamic party) said a few years ago and it still echo’s in moderate secular peopls minds…he said “democracy is a tram you use to get where you want and what you want and then you get off it”. They know he is advancing his agenda under democratic means until he gets to where they want to get off it and then………

  52. Turndown Obama:

    If symbols do not have value, why build the mosque near ground zero and start construction on Sept 11 and open on Sept 11 after a year? If the promoters are not terrorist sympathisers or terrorists themselves, they would surely have moved that mosque elsewhere by now and do not tie up with 9/11.

  53. I think what is going on with the backdrop of the mosque thing is a dialog about what people know to be the Islam religion and granted their knowledge is not perfect. In the current conversation, if we ignore the fringes and their fear mongering, we can actually find some critical analysis of that religion based on what we know. And you know who is missing in this dialog? Muslims who practice that religion. It is unbelievable that there are terror groups like the Taliban who occupy a country and run parts of it (there was a time not too long ago when they controlled the whole country) and subject people to unbelievable atrocities and the world watches. Some of the people even have the audacity to cry religious tolerance as these things happen to women and children in those countries. Nope. I think the conversation has already moved beyond the mosque. With the awareness we have of that religion, we should be talking about how to help the feckless Muslims in those countries to fight these barbaric people among them. We don’t need lectures on tolerance. That fucking Imam has the audacity to come here and demand tolerance and he is hired to go around the Muslim world to tell them Americans are not bad people?!! Give me a break.

  54. henry
    The Towers and the Pentagon were hit because they were symbols.

    =================

    Making a real thing into a symbol does cause trouble. Otherwise we might still have the WTC, Lower East Side Manhattan might get a swimming pool, and Symbol Obama might be VP with real expert Hillary as POTUS.

  55. I wish it were higher…

    ————–

    Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Support Israel
    71% say Israel a ally, behind only Canada, Britain

    A new poll shows that 71 percent of Americans call Israel a true friend, trailing only Canada and Great Britain.

    That number is not significantly changed from last year, according to Rasmussen Reports.

    Specifically, 71 percent of Americans regard Israel as an ally, while 6 percent believe Israel is an enemy. Some 17 percent say the Jewish state falls “somewhere in between.”

    Furthermore, a majority of Americans, 51 percent, believe the United States should help Israel if the Jewish state is forced to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities.

    On the list of friendly nations, Israel ranks ahead of Germany, Japan, France and Mexico.

    Iran, which initiated its first nuclear plant on Saturday, is regarded by an ally by just 7 percent of Americans.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/poll2.php

  56. Not taking yes for an answer

    By EFRAIM KARSH
    24/08/2010

    No matter how many times Israel has reached out its hand in peace, it seems Mahmoud Abbas just wasn’t – and isn’t – interested.

    No sooner had Hillary Clinton announced the imminent resumption of direct Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations without preconditions, than the Palestinian leadership cold shouldered the US secretary of state. An emergency meeting of the PLO executive committee (which controls the Palestinian Authority), chaired by PA President Mahmoud Abbas, agreed to return to the negotiating table but threatened to pull out of the talks if Israel didn’t extend the freeze on all settlement activities. “Should the Israeli government issue new tenders on September 26, we will not be able to continue with talks,” chief PA negotiator Saeb Erekat told reporters.

    But the story doesn’t end here. While the Englishlanguage announcement of the PLO’s decision sets “the emergence of an independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with Israel” as the outcome of the negotiations, the Arabic-language version makes no mention of the two-state solution. Instead it notes the Palestinian readiness to resume the final-status talks, adding a few new preconditions, notably the rejection of Israel’s annexation of east Jerusalem.

    And just there, no doubt, lies the heart of the problem.

    For while the PLO leadership, since the launch of the Oslo “peace” process in 1993, has been singing the praises of the two-state solution whenever addressing Israeli or Western audiences, it has consistently denigrated the idea to its own constituents, depicting the process as a transient arrangement required by the needs of the moment that would inexorably lead to the long-cherished goal of Israel’s demise.

    In this respect there has been no fundamental distinction between Yasser Arafat and Abbas (and, for that matter, between Hamas and the PLO). For all their admittedly sharp differences in personality and political style, the two are warp and woof of the same dogmatic PLO fabric: Neither of them accepts Israel’s right to exist; both are committed to its eventual destruction.

    IN ONE way, indeed, Abbas is more extreme than many of his peers. While they revert to standard talk of Israel’s illegitimacy, he devoted years of his life to giving ideological firepower to the anti-Israel and anti-Jewish indictment. In a doctoral dissertation written at a Soviet university, an expanded version of which was subsequently published in book form, Abbas endeavored to prove the existence of a close ideological and political association between Zionism and Nazism. Among other things, he argued that fewer than a million Jews had been killed in the Holocaust, and that the Zionist movement was a partner to their slaughter.

    In the wake of the failed Camp David summit of July 2000 and the launch of Arafat’s war of terror two months later, Abbas went to great lengths to explain why the “right of return” – the standard Arab euphemism for Israel’s destruction through demographic subversion – was a nonnegotiable prerequisite for any settlement. Two years later, he described the Oslo process as “the biggest mistake Israel has ever made,” enabling the PLO to get worldwide acceptance and respectability while clinging to its own aims.

    Shortly after Arafat’s death in November 2004, Abbas publicly swore to “follow in the path of the late leader Yasser Arafat and… work toward fulfilling his dream… We promise you that our hearts will not rest until the right of return for our people is achieved and the tragedy of the refugees is ended.”

    Abbas made good his pledge. In a televised speech on May 15, 2005, he described the establishment of Israel as an unprecedented historic injustice and vowed never to accept it.

    Two-and-a-half years later, at a US-sponsored peace conference in Annapolis, he rejected prime minister Ehud Olmert’s proposal of a Palestinian state in 97 percent of the West Bank and the entire Gaza Strip, and categorically dismissed the request to recognize Israel as a Jewish state alongside the would-be Palestinian state, insisting instead on full implementation of the “right of return.”

    He was equally recalcitrant when the demand was raised (in April 2009) by newly-elected Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. “A Jewish state, what is that supposed to mean?” Abbas asked in a speech in Ramallah. “You can call yourselves as you like, but I don’t accept it and I say so publicly.”

    When in June 2009 Netanyahu broke with longstanding Likud precept by publicly accepting a twostate solution and agreeing to the establishment of a Palestinian state, provided the PA leadership responded in kind and recognized Israel’s Jewish nature, Erekat warned that the prime minister “will have to wait 1,000 years before he finds one Palestinian who will go along with him.”

    Fatah, the PLO’s largest constituent organization and Abbas’s alma mater, went a step further. At its sixth general congress, convened in Bethlehem last August, the delegates reaffirmed their long-standing commitment to “armed struggle” as “a strategy, not a tactic… This struggle will not stop until the Zionist entity is eliminated and Palestine is liberated.”

    And so it goes. Precisely 10 years after Arafat was dragged kicking and screaming to the American-convened peace summit in Camp David, only to reject Ehud Barak’s virtual cession of the West Bank and Gaza Strip to the nascent Palestinian state and to launch an unprecedented war of terror, his erstwhile successor is being dragged to the negotiating table, which he would rather continue to shun after a year-and- a-half absence.

    Not because of the unconstitutionality of any agreement he might sign (owing to the expiry of his presidency in January 2009), or his inability to deliver anything that is not to Hamas’s liking, but because, like Arafat and the rest of the PLO leadership, as far as Israel’s existence is concerned, Abbas would not take a yes for an answer.

    The writer is professor of Middle East and Mediterranean studies at King’s College London, editor of Middle East Quarterly and author, most recently, of Palestine Betrayed.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=185767

  57. The 9 11 mosque seems to be growing wings every which way. Symbols, racism, et al.

    For me it comes down to one singular issue:

    The building of the mosque, so close to a place which represents a million+ tears to Americans and New Yorkers in particular, is not what the majority of Americans seem to want.

    It has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with dishonoring the fallen.

  58. Re: turndownobama
    August 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    Shorttermer,

    WWII was fought for real things, not just symbols.
    __________________________________________________
    You are damned straight it was; like your freedom and my freedom. And yet you want to pussyfoot with the ones who are linked arm in arm to destroy the freedom for my great-grandchildren that my Daddy fought and shed blood and buddies for?????????
    I hope you have a really good answer when my little ones ask you exactly what did you do to prevent the ‘fundamental transformation’ of the country that their ancestor fought to keep free.

    The point was I would not want to be you and stand in front of my father and dis the symbols of freedom that he fought and some of his best buddies died for. He died at 55 so those years fighting were a great sacrifice. He d@mned sure thought symbols were important like the flag, the symbols of victory of the war, and Tara Leaf badge he and his unit wore on their uniforms, and the symbol of thier braveness in their motto, “first to fight, last to leave.” He had blood on his boots as he and his unit tromped over his fallen buddies during battle, and he said that was one of the hardest things about the war. Straightup, we have got to get some backbone.

    Methinks the only thing you have to fear is fear itself; stop worrying about how we might influence their terror and concentrate on defeating the terrorism. I am so beyond fear that it is not even funny. I am so mad at our country going into the
    sh!tter.

  59. Although sporting, none of the speculation means much at this stage. The size of the expected Democrat debacle in this fall’s elections has yet to play out, and that election will set the initial terms for 2012. Mrs. Clinton has no pressing need to change jobs. Meanwhile, the new documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced,” detailing alleged fraud involved in Mr. Obama’s 2008 nomination, has been gaining more attention in Democratic circles. If Hillary supporters are going to mount a party coup against the first black president, they will need a better argument than that he is a complete disaster in his job.
    ——————————————————————

    The argument is in three parts:

    first, he is sinking the country

    second, his mandate was not legitimate

    third, he is typhoid Mary for democrats

  60. The race card having been maxed out (Sorry, Rev. Jackson – but, hey, ya had a good run.) the chattering nimrods have now decided to play THE MORON CARD. The rules are similar to the using the race card. The game is played by insisting that anyone who questions or disagrees with the perceived wisdom of the fatuous ones on high is, by default, an idiot. Same playbook, just replace racist with moron.”
    —————————-
    Like the Time Magazine cover story Is America Islamophobic, with a time line of prior hate movements as they define them. Perhaps there is room on that chart for a new movement that hates the elites that gave us the Fraud, a depression and Time Magazine. Am I too old to enlist?

  61. As regards earlier posts about the $ behind the mosque, a friend said to me today that MO of course traveled back to the US from Spain without going thru customs and that after many meetings with Saudis she probably returned with bags of cash for O.

    hmmmm

  62. Meek and Rubio whalloping home in the primaries.

    Rubio has 82.8% and almost half a million votes.

    Meek has 177,000 and 53%.

    Thats a huge difference in numbers.

  63. Republicans severely outweighing the Dems in Florida tonight. There is over 600,000 repuclican votes so far compared to 300,000 for the dems. Shows you who’s motivated.

  64. Marco Rubio wins senate primary in Florida for Republicans, Meek is 100,000 ahead for the Dems

    Alex Sink wins Dem Gov Primary, close race between Scott and McCollum for Republicans Gov.

  65. MOP, They don’t seem to be covering the election primaries on MSNBC tonight…LOL!

    The fear in the WH should be palpable tonight! LOL! The rethugs are kicking butt tonight, yaaaahoooooo!

  66. ‘there is a such a thing as “stealth” jihadists who will flim-flam to get into positions of trust.’

    This is a very good article on that point by Andrew McCarthy, lead prosecutor against the ‘Blind Sheikh.’

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244349/which-islam-will-prevail-america-andrew-c-mccarthy

    He talks about loyal Muslims who helped prosecute the Blind Sheik. He then talks about the Muslim Brotherhood: “These included outfits like CAIR (the Council on American-Islamic Relations), which was formed in 1994 by the Brotherhood’s Hamas-support wing, with seed money from an Islamic “charity” — the Holy Land Foundation — later shut down for financing foreign terrorist organizations.”

    “…CAIR and other Brotherhood groups, were identified by the Justice Department as unindicted coconspirators in the recent Hamas-financing prosecution against the Holy Land Foundation.”

    Council for American-Islamic Relations? That’s like calling the New Black Pathers the Council for Inter-racial Harmony. CAIR recently went to court in NYC to suppress bus ads protesting the Ground Zero Mosque. McCarthy says this ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ with established terrorist ties is behind the hard-line on the Mosque issue.

    Obama spoke out on the Israeli Settlements, so his ‘no comment on a local issue’ is total b.s. As a lawyer, he knew exactly what he was doing. His comments on religious freedom paralyzed the government from just banning the Mosque. Having tied the hands of government at every level, he then issued his ‘no comment on the wisdom’, which was a political stealth maneuver. He got in, did his dirty work on behalf of the Ground Zero Mosque, then got out, like a burgular who leaves no sign he was ever there.

    Cordoba House smells of terrorist links to its finances. Can we trust the Obama-Holder FBI to fine-tooth their books? I know I don’t.

    I know Obama is an unqualified fraud and race-baiter who can’t be trusted. For the first time, I have real suspicions that the President may be a traitor.

  67. MoonOnPluto, remember this night. It’s the night Marco Rubio became a full fledged national figure. It’s only a matter of time and he will be on a national ticket. Many
    Democrats know, with dread, that tonight is a very significant night.

  68. @Canaan, “I know Obama is an unqualified fraud and race-baiter who can’t be trusted. For the first time, I have real suspicions that the President may be a traitor.”

    ————
    Tammy Bruce

    “I’m convinced this mosque was Obama’s idea. The notion of it and its location. I think he knows he’ll be a one-term president and wants as much destruction to the American psyche as possible. The legacy this man is now establishing is a continuation of the terrorism unleashed in the 90s and defined by 9/11.”

  69. Thanks for all the Florida news MoonOnPluto. We’ve been fascinated all night. Meeks will be a drain of time and money on the Dims. They will have to give him time/money because he is the sole African-American with a chance to become a senator. The reality is he has no chance at all but with Burris out the Dimocrats will have to at least pretend to support the sole African-American.

    By the end of this year there might not be a single African-American in statewide jobs in the country as chief executive or in the Senate. Obama did that, as predicted long ago here. Meeks will be strong enough to deprive Crist of votes but not strong enough to win. Marco Rubio became a Senator tonight and years of Democratic dreams about Latinos have just gone up in smoke. The Mistake in ’08 gets worse for Dimocrats every hour.

  70. Rubio should be able to peel off quite a lot of the latino voters, dem and conservative leaners easily.

  71. Arizona should start to come in any minute………lets see how much backing Jan Brewer gets and how much McCain gets.

  72. MoonOnPluto, Jan Brewer was a walking political corpse. Now she is golden. What happened to turn things around for her? 🙂

  73. It will be very hard for Rubio to defeat Crist imo…..many dems know Meeks(a good guy) will lose to either, so they will go with Charlie b/c he is a moderate (some would say chameleon).

  74. SHV
    August 24th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    “Obama’s religion is narcissism. He hasn’t a bone in his body that tends toward spiritual or religious investigation. To be blunt: He’s not curious enough. Narcissism is a full-time endeavor. He’s wrestled with HIS cultural identity. What interests him is HIM. To see Obama correctly one must see him through the religion of narcissism. It explains everything. The adulation trickery at rallies, the flip-flops, the overuse of the words “I” and “unprecedented”, the idiotic intrusion into local issues, the belief that his presence would help the likes of Martha Coakley and Jon Corzine, his annoyance with the press now that some have left the Kool Aid party barge, the disconnect with the country he leads – to see all this is to know Obama worships himself. He’d be a Muslim if it served him in some way. He’d also be Shaker, Quaker, or candlestick maker if being one provided him with sufficient admiration from the masses.”

    **********************************************

    that JohnSmart is another smartie…great last line…candlestick maker…oh boy!
    ********************************************************************

    Hillary has already said she does not want a second term at State…why would she go from State to Defense…no to Hillary staying in this admin…and absolutely NO, NO, NO to Bill joining in…Bill is President of his own world…he does not need to play Daddy to O…

    ***************************************************

    how in the hell can anyone vote for Rick Scott for Fla Governor…McCollum is bad, but Scott seems worse…thank goodness Fla had enough sense not to support that slimeball Jeff Greene…how in the world is this country suppose to evolve forward when our choices are between who is the bigger crook out to buy the election on a whim…honestly with choices like these it is no wonder our whole economy and system is collapsing…
    (snip)

    ********************************

    poor Debbie Wasserman Shultz she really is ‘spinning’ these days…oh, debbie…

  75. admin
    August 24th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    MoonOnPluto, Jan Brewer was a walking political corpse.

    Now she is golden. – You are quoting Blago, Admin? I like it!! 😉

    Go Jan, go!

    She’s one Rethug I would vote for in a heartbeat, if I lived in AZ.

  76. pm317, that photo at Tammy Bruce’s site — the Iwo Jima takeoff — is just frightening, and dead on the money.

  77. So in the senate primaries in Florida, at 90%, The republicans pulled in 1.21 million votes, the Dems approx 800,000.

  78. Islam’s plan is to destroy our way of life….

    by sheikyermami on August 19, 2010

    Any self-respecting imam, mufti or mullah tells us so. But when one of us says it we instantly become “bigots, racists & Islamophobes”, and the loony left goes apeshit. WTF is wrong with our society?

    “Islam is a revolutionary faith that comes to destroy any government made by man. Islam doesn’t look for a nation to be in a better condition than another nation. Islam doesn’t care about the land or who owns the land. The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy. In order to fulfill that goal, Islam can use every power available every way it can be used to bring worldwide revolution. This is Jihad.”

    http://sheikyermami.com/2010/08/19/islams-plan-is-to-destroy-our-way-of-life/

    PANAMA CITY, Fla. / THE ASSOCIATED PRESS – A Republican U.S. House candidate in the Florida Panhandle has told a group of middle and high school students that Islam “is against everything America stands for.”

    Some applauded after Ron McNeil’s comment Tuesday at a candidate forum for students in Panama City, but one student challenged McNeil’s comments.

    McNeil then said Islam’s “plan is to destroy our way of life.”

    The exchange began when McNeil voiced opposition to a proposed Islamic center, including a mosque, two blocks from the World Trade Center site.

    McNeil said if it’s built, it should be “nine stories underground, so we can walk above it as citizens and Christians.”

    McNeil is one of five Republicans vying to challenge Democratic Rep. Allen Boyd.

    King calls Pelosi comments a ‘threat’ to

  79. Canaan, I had a longer comment about the article you linked and your comment but scrapped it. America really needs a strategy to figure out how to distinguish between stealth versus true and good Muslims. I don’t know what the solution here is but it is certain that the right kind of balanced leadership, tolerance and protecting rights versus national security, should come from the government. Can you imagine the havoc Pakistanis with Saudi money could cause in India if they were to infiltrate and brainwash local Indian Muslims to do harm? Fortunately many Indian Muslims think they are Indian first and Muslims second. Do American Muslims feel American first? If they do, they ought to speak up and show solidarity. But the Saudi influence in all things American is troubling.

  80. does anyone remember how obama would not repeal DADT because there wasn’t enough support or something stupid? BUT the mosque issue really has support in his mind?? he must still be smoking funny cigs.

  81. McCain wins in Arizona, as expected. J.D. Hayworth was done in for doing commercials which touted how you can “get government money”. This from an alleged conservative.

    J.D. Watts also does the same type commercials and we have never heard complaints about this. Conservatives in government but then when they need money they participate in ads which run counter to everything they say they stand for.

    On both the D and the R, on both the Left and the Right, on the rich and poor divide – we all have the same problem – the political class of all sides is increasingly concerned only by their welfare and what is good for them.

  82. “Racist” Bill Clinton got cheers tonight at the Meeks celebration. Bill campaigned for Meeks (a Hillary supporter) and rescued the campaign from defeat. The betting is that Meeks will be strong enough to get Dem votes and finish off any chance that Crist has.

  83. “we all have the same problem – the political class of all sides is increasingly concerned only by their welfare and what is good for them.”
    ********
    We have a one party political system..”The Corporatist Party” During Bush/Cheney, the Dems ranted and raved about the pro-corporate agenda but never seemed to be able to block the Corporate Socialist Welfare System….during the Obama Admin, the rethugs rant and rave about Obama the (corporate) Socialist but never seem to block the agenda….The political Kabuki has really gone past the putrid stage of political rot.

  84. Big Mosque news: Sheldon Silver against the Mosque of Doom. He represents lower Manhattan. Somewhere 2×4 Schumer is trembling.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NYC_MOSQUE?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

    A national survey underscored the complex views of Americans toward the mosque project, with 51 percent agreeing with opponents of the Muslim center, while 34 percent said they supported it. The poll of 1,003 randomly chosen adults was conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center and showed that a majority, 62 percent, also said Muslims have equal rights to build houses of worship.[snip]

    New York Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who represents the lower Manhattan district where ground zero is, suggested Tuesday that Islamic leaders should move the proposed mosque. Paterson has made the same point.

    Organizers have the right to build the center at a building two blocks north of ground zero but should be open to compromise, Silver said.

    “In the spirit of living with others, they should be cognizant of the feelings of others and try to find a location that doesn’t engender the deep feelings the currently exist about this site,” Silver said.

    Paterson has yet to meet with anyone from The Cordoba Initiative, the project’s organizer.

    Has anyone see Andrew Cuomo or 2×4 Schumer at all lately? It’s campaign season so they can’t hide forever. Where are they? Where’s Chuck?

  85. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6453456-congress-votes-no-to-healthcare-for-sick-911-responders

    8.5.10 Washington]—–Congress voted a resounding no to the Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act, which was aimed at providing healthcare coverage to responders who are now suffering various ailments as a result of their heroism on that fateful day.

    On Thursday, July 29, most Republicans voted nay to the Bill, calling it “a slush fund,” and Democrats “over-reaching as usual.”

    The bill, which would have spent $3.2 billion on health care over the next 10 years, was intended to help those sickened by their exposure to toxic fumes and debris during the horrific 9/11 tragedy.
    ….
    The Democrats, used a stunningly defeatist method called the “Suspension Bill” instead of the normal procedure of simple majority vote. With the Suspension Bill, 2/3 yeas are needed to pass any legislation. It failed 255 to 159, with just 12 Republicans backing it.

    Which begs the question, why did the Democrats set this method of voting in motion?

  86. http://www.allvoices.com/s/event-6453456/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vbmV3cy9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDEwLzA3LzI5LzIwMTAtMDctMjlfY29uZ3Jlc3NfcmVqZWN0c196YWRyb2dhXzkxMV9oZWFsdGhfYW5kX2NvbXBlbnNhdGlvbl9hY3RfYXNfZ29wX21lbWJlcnNfYmFsa19hdF8uaHRtbCUyM2l4enowdmtqNk05VkQ=

    Democrats would have been able to pass the bill if they used the normal procedure, but they brought it up as a “suspension bill,” which needs a two-thirds vote to pass because it can’t be amended. Democrats feared the GOP would attach poison pills to the bill.

    It failed 255 to 159, with just 12 Republicans backing it.

  87. http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/08/20/what-are-the-republicans-trying-to-hide-behind-the-ground-zero-mosque/

    the pot is being stirred, and it is beginning to look like there is a more sinister motive behind the [ GOP ] campaign against the ‘mosque’ than straight-up stoking of racial tension.

    You see, in the time immediately before the controversy exploded, a fairly disgraceful piece of politicking took place – the Republican bloc in Congress vetoed a bill that would have provided billions in healthcare for 9/11 responders who have since fallen sick having been exposed to toxic fumes in the aftermath of the disaster.

    It was ugly stuff, tempers had begun to flare […] and the press had just caught wind. It was brewing into something of a PR disaster for the Republicans. Then, without warning, the Ground Zero Mosque appears, and goes nuclear. No other issues are getting past it in the press, and the scandal of the Republican veto goes unquestioned.

    It is very tempting to see this as a PR stunt to deflect negative attention away from the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. Certainly, the GOP’s PR team have time and again shown themselves to be masters of dominating press agendas – trouncing the Democrats and making them look weak and indecisive at every term.
    ….
    Republicans get to look tough on Muslims and the public forgets about their awful treatment of the 9/11 responders, who are all considered folk heroes in the States.

  88. Sorry, hit the enter button.

    I went to support Martin Heinrich, who is running for re-election in the house. Unfortunately, all the regulars were there. I was very uncomfortable. I decided from now on I will donate money, but put myself in with the people who so aggressively defrauded the American people. It is like rubbing elbows with criminals, which I feel they are. So when they called today, I told them I would rather donate.

    I don’t want the stress of the toxic environment that the Dems have created for themselves.

  89. Beware of Real Clear Politics Polling
    _____________________________________

    Rubio Is Solidly Ahead In Florida
    Lexington Concorde
    Red State Blog

    An untrained observer, looking at the RCP Average of polling conducted in the Florida Senate race, might conclude that Marco Rubio and Charlie Crist are in a virtual tie. A fool might look at these numbers and conclude Charlie Crist is more likely to win. However, a person with an even casual understanding of how polls are conducted will understand that this polling shows Marco Rubio to be a solid favorite in this race, with a lead roughly as comfortable as that of Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire and Rand Paul in Kentucky.

    The explanation for this, of course, lies in sample of persons polled by the respective organizations polling this race. From the beginning of this race, Quinnipiac University and the St. Petersburg Times have polled registered voters, a set which purports to winnow out at least those adults not eligible to vote. Rasmussen and Mason-Dixon, on the other hand, have consistently polled “likely voters,” which purports to be a subset of registered voters who are judged to be more representative of the people who can be counted on to actually cast a vote on Election Day.

    Now, screening for likely voters is a tetchy business, and polling companies have varied methods for accomplishing this screening function. Some ask respondents to self-report likelihood of voting. Some judge likelihood of voting by objective factors such as knowledge of their polling location, etc. Others do some mix, checking self-reporting with objective facts. Rasmussen is known to have a very stringent screening process for likely voters. People who are knowledgeable about polling debate about such things as whether Rasmussen’s screening process is perhaps too stringent; those who are ignorant of polls (or disinterested in the truth) argue that Rasmussen deliberately cooks the books in order to influence the election narrative. Nevertheless, it is clear that screening for likely voters, through whatever method, to some degree eliminates marginal voters and seeks to poll those more “tuned in” and “motivated” to do what the poll is attempting to measure: actually go to the polls and vote.

    Over the last six weeks, a clear picture has emerged among the nationally-known and reputable polling organizations that have polled the expected Rubio-Crist-Meek race (Rasmussen, Q-Poll, PPP, Mason-Dixon, and Reuters-Ipsos): organizations polling likely voters showed Rubio faring better, by an increasingly widening margin. Reuters/Ipsos polled RVs in early July and found Crist ahead by 7. Rasmussen polled LVs July 21st, and found Rubio ahead 2. Q-Poll polled RVs in late July and found Crist ahead 6. Rasmussen polled LVs August 9 and found Rubio ahead 5. Mason-Dixon polled LVs August 9-11 and also found Rubio up 5. Q-Poll polled RVs August 11-16 and found Crist ahead 7.

    A seasoned poll-watcher seeing this trend would conclude that the overall polling numbers were masking a troubling trend for Orange Charlie: the marginal voters prefer Charlie Crist. The people likely to get out and vote (particularly in a non-Presidential year) increasingly preferred Marco Rubio. No polling company has illustrated this trend more precisely than Democratic pollster Public Policy Polling, which has by all accounts acquitted itself well thus far this cycle. In mid-July, PPP polled RVs and found Crist ahead in a 3-way matcup with Meek by 6. Over the weekend, PPP polled LVs and… found Rubio ahead by 8 in the same matchup. In the absence of a universal trend towards Rubio in all polling, this dramatic 15-point shift in a poll conducted by the same organization can only mean one thing: at present, Rubio voters are more tuned in, more motivated, and by far more likely to vote. This spells DOOM for Charlie Crist; DOOM which will be more manifest as election day nears and all polling organizatoins switch to likely voter models.

    At this point, Crist’s main hope is that Obama and the DNC fundraising apparatus go all-in, in an attempt to convince Democrats to bail on CBC member-in-good-standing Kendrick Meek. At this point, that seems doubtful to happen, especially in the absence of an explicit promise from Crist to caucus with the Dems; a promise Crist cannot give without alienating a significant portion of his current voting base. In the final analysis, then, Marco Rubio should be considered a heavy favorite to win this race, a fact which will become clearer as election day approaches.

  90. I must be a fool because contrary to what Concorde Lexington says I believe the race between Rubio and Crist will be close. Specifically, I think Jewish Democrats will cross over to Crist. Personally I am more comfortable with Rubio mainly because I am reasonably sure that he will fight Obama and Crist has given every indication that he will roll over for him. But then again I do not live in Florida. The main point of the post was to demonstrate the unreliable nature of polls which measure registered voters as opposed to likely voters. All things being equal likely voters gets you one step closer to a reliable projection. The second and related point was to show the unreliability of Real Clear Politics polling which is not nearly as clear as they would have you believe. It mixes apples with oranges, and yet this is what the FOX website posts and refers to.

  91. Wbboei, that Florida race is going to be a great watch.

    PPP released this poll today:

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/rubio-back-on-top.html

    Democrats will get their stronger candidate if Kendrick Meek wins the Florida Senate primary tonight as expected- but the biggest winner coming out of the primary may be Marco Rubio. PPP finds he would begin the general election in the lead at 40%, followed by Charlie Crist at 32%, and Meek at 17%. If Jeff Greene were somehow able to pull off the upset tonight it would be much closer with Rubio at 37%, Crist at 36%, and Greene at only 13%.

    PPP’s last poll of the race in mid-July found Crist in the lead at 35% to 29% for Rubio and 17% for Meek. Two major developments have shifted the race in Rubio’s direction though. The first is that Democrats are now going for Meek 39-38 where before they were going for Crist 44-35. As Democrats have gotten to know Meek over the course of the primary campaign they’ve generally decided they like him and that’s cut into Crist’s support for the general election.

    The other big difference is that many Republican voters have moved off the fence and they’ve almost universally moved into the Rubio column. Where Rubio had a 54-23 lead with GOP voters in July, it’s now increased to 69-20. Many Republicans were up in the air between Crist and Rubio previously but whatever they’ve seen over the last month has moved them more firmly into the Rubio column.

    Crist’s support continues to show an awkward balance that may ultimately make victory for him impossible. 57% of those planning to vote for him if Meek is the nominee think he should caucus with the Democrats in the Senate if elected while 28% think he should side with the Republicans. He’s more likely to find the additional support he needs to get elected from Democrats than Republicans, but can he do that without losing the 20% of Republicans who are still with him? Whether he finds a way to thread that needle or not will probably determine his fate.

    For now Rubio’s in his strongest position since Crist quit the Republican race and decided to run as an independent.

  92. What Politico wrote this morning about the Alaska race is thus far NOT confirmed by tonight’s surprising results:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41392.html

    Here’s POLITICO’s 10 things to watch Tuesday.

    The seniority argument

    Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski was smart enough to see this one coming. Restlessness at the conservative grass roots, residual anger toward her over her original appointment to the Senate in 2002 and the involvement of the Palin family in support of her tea-party-fueled foe, Joe Miller, put a variety of combustible elements into play but the first-term GOP senator was prepared for it.

    She outspent her underfunded opponent by a wide margin and resorted to the tried-and-true Alaska congressional incumbent’s strategy — reminding voters of the value of her seniority. It’s an argument that may pay dividends in a state that is far more reliant on federal largesse than almost any other.

    Recent polls showing Murkowski with a comfortable advantage seem to confirm the efficacy of her approach.

  93. Interesting race in Alaska. The stories that I had read were that the incumbent would likely win. So, if Miller wins, will the media continue to deride the Tea Party as being all washed up for the most part. All washed up? Not on their life!

  94. I live in Florida and had not realized that Rubio had pulled ahead of the orange man. That’s good to see.
    I was going to vote today for Meeks, but never got around to it. I’m still a registered Democrat, and I figured I could vote for the candidate that would more than likely lose in November. Meeks would be that candidate. I would then support his opponent in November, regardless of if he supported Hillary or not. You see, he may have supported Hillary, but now he supports someone very sinister, and to me, that’s not good judgment on his part. Rubio is going to get my vote come November. Crist, well, he’s in it for himself, and I’ll never voter for the person who changes positions like the wind changes direction. I despise his fakeness. Good bye Charlie!

  95. NoMoBama, it was Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Miller that has him doing so well tonight.

    BTW, with 61% of precincts in Miller has 51.5% to Murkowski 48.5%

  96. admin
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    This is the feeling that I have had for quite some time. Money corrupts almost everyone it seems.

  97. I know that Sarah endorsed Miller. I’m glad that her endorsement worked in her home state. I am hoping that more of her candidates win in any future elections. The media has been dissing her because her endorsed candidates have not won recently, but her endorsed candidates have actually given the winners a good run for their money. I like Sarah. I like her plain talk, and unpretentiousness. And… she’s hardly stupid. She, and whoever advises her, are very adept at making obama look bad, even when he has so much media support, while she doesn’t. She slaps ’em all silly.

  98. A three point lead with 61% of the precincts reporting sounds good for the leader. I’m guessing that the more populated precincts have already reported, and that the votes not in are probably from the outlying areas in Alaska. A sitting Senator, I assume, would have needed to win in the populated areas, so Murkowski is in trouble. Good on her. I think, if I remember correctly, that she has dissed Sarah Palin in the past.

  99. You know what I like about Rubio? He is a minority who doesn’t wear it on his sleeve. He is not pushing his minority background in as much as he is pushing his beliefs. He is beyond race, and that makes me feel very comfortable voting for him. I don’t view him as supporting one race above any other. It’s too bad that most Demorat minority politicians seem to push their minority agenda over anything else. That makes me feel very uneasy.

  100. President Barack Obama’s job approval rating among American men has fallen to a record low, hitting 39 percent in the week of Aug. 16-22, according to the Gallup Poll. The week of Aug. 16-22 also marked the first time Obama’s average weekly approval rating dropped below 40 percent for either gender. His approval rating among American women was 46 percent for the week. When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, his job approval rating was 64 percent among men and 69 percent among women, according to Gallup. That was the highest his approval ever hit with men. Obama’s approval rating.

    ………………

    Not like we told you he’d be in the toilet pretty fast.

  101. Obviously the pollsters have no idea at the level of anger out there, the polls were all wrong tonight.

    McCollum was supposed to win easily, they had him up about 10%…he lost.

    Murkowski supposedly had a 20% lead…where did that go?

  102. Although i’m glad to see that little wretch Hollis French lose his bid for the Gov of Alaska, he the one who Obama sent after Palin when she got the VP slot to tear her to pieces. Karma’s a right payback……

  103. SHV
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
    “we all have the same problem – the political class of all sides is increasingly concerned only by their welfare and what is good for them.”
    ********
    We have a one party political system..”The Corporatist Party” During Bush/Cheney, the Dems ranted and raved about the pro-corporate agenda but never seemed to be able to block the Corporate Socialist Welfare System….during the Obama Admin, the rethugs rant and rave about Obama the (corporate) Socialist but never seem to block the agenda….The political Kabuki has really gone past the putrid stage of political rot.
    ———————
    This is a long but fascinating discussion about combating the corporate state. It describes the one party system you refer to and how Obama is their candidate and the enemy of the American People. Chris Hedges is featured. At this point neither party speaks for the middle class. So it is really Hobson’s choice in every election.

    http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_and_derrick_jensen_on_totalitarianism_20100712/

  104. Cliffhanger in Alaska. May be a week before final numbers are in after counting absentees.. Miller still holding a slight lead. Palin’s support a referendum on her likeability as her endorsements have a profound effect on the candidates she supports.

    Joe Miller website:

    http://joemiller.us/

  105. Meanwhile Hillary goes worldwide to save our country from the vacationist on his spending and recreational
    pleasures.

    Countries Visited and Mileage: 2010
    Note — for information about current or upcoming travel (when available), please visit the page at http://www.state.gov/secretary/trvl/2010/index.htm

    Trips by Date
    July 17-24:Asia (21,867 miles)
    July 1-5: Europe (13,324 miles)
    June 6-10: Latin America and the Caribbean (8,007 miles)
    May 20-26: Asia (16,307 miles)
    April 21-23: Estonia (9,708 miles)
    April 6-8: Prague (8,562 miles)
    March 29-30: Ottawa (781 miles)
    March 23: Mexico (3,765 miles)
    March 17-19: Moscow (10,037 miles)
    February 28-March 5: Latin America (14,370 miles)
    February 13-17: Qatar and Saudi Arabia (14,337 miles)
    January 26-29: London and Paris (7,508 miles)
    January 25: Montreal (991 miles)
    January 16: Haiti (3,628 Miles)
    January 11-13: [Hawaii] (9,679 miles)*

    Trips by Country

    Afghanistan Kabul, 7/19-20
    Argentina Buenos Aires, 3/1-2
    Armenia Yerevan, 7/4-5
    Azerbaijan Baku 7/3-4
    Barbados Bridgetown, 6/9-10
    Brazil Brasilia, 3/2-3
    Sao Paulo, 3/3
    Canada Goose Bay (Refueling Stop), 4/23
    Montreal, 1/25
    Ottawa, 3/29-30
    Chile Santiago, 3/2
    China Shanghai, 5/21-5/23
    Beijing, 5/23-26
    Colombia Bogota, 6/8-9
    Costa Rica San Jose, 3/4-5
    Czech Republic Prague, 4/7-8
    Ecuador Quito, 6/8
    Estonia Tallinn, 4/21-23
    France Paris 1/29
    Georgia Tbilisi 7/5
    Germany Ramstein AFB (Switch Planes), 2/16
    Guatemala Guatemala City, 3/5
    Haiti Port-au-Prince, 1/16
    India New Delhi (Refueling Stop), 7/20
    Ireland Shannon (Refueling Stop), 2/13
    Shannon (Refueling Stop), 3/17
    Shannon (Refueling Stop), 7/17
    Jamaica Kingston, 1/16
    Japan Tokyo, 5/21
    Tokyo (Refueling Stop), 7/23
    Mexico Mexico City, 3/23
    Pakistan Islamabad, 7/18-19
    Peru Lima, 6/7-8
    Poland Krakow 7/2-3
    Qatar Doha, 2/14-15
    Russia Moscow, 3/18/19
    Saudi Arabia Riyadh, 2/15
    Jeddah, 2/15-16

    South Korea Seoul, 5/26
    Seoul, 7/20-21
    Spain Madrid (Refueling Stop), 4/21
    Ukraine Kyiv 7/2-3
    United Kingdom London 1/26-29
    Uruguay Montevideo, 3/1
    Vietnam Hanoi, 7/21-23

    Updated on July 26, 2010
    *The Secretary curtailed her trip to return to Washington, DC on January 13. As this was scheduled as an international trip, the flight time and mileage for this trip are included in the figures on this page.

  106. Here’s POLITICO’s 10 things to watch Tuesday.

    The seniority argument

    Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski was smart enough to see this one coming. Restlessness at the conservative grass roots, residual anger toward her over her original appointment to the Senate in 2002 and the involvement of the Palin family in support of her tea-party-fueled foe, Joe Miller, put a variety of combustible elements into play but the first-term GOP senator was prepared for it.

    She outspent her underfunded opponent by a wide margin and resorted to the tried-and-true Alaska congressional incumbent’s strategy — reminding voters of the value of her seniority. It’s an argument that may pay dividends in a state that is far more reliant on federal largesse than almost any other.

    Recent polls showing Murkowski with a comfortable advantage seem to confirm the efficacy of her approach.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    Potomac Fever strikes again. The naive belief by Washington insiders that they understand what makes the country tick and the even stupider assumption that intelligent life ends at the Maryland and Virginia borders. Once again these arrogant fools prove to the world that they do not know what they are talking about, and the bona fide concerns of the American People cannot be dismissed as lightly as they do. When and if we have a real revolution in this county, and that is not inconceivable in an economy where the jobless rate grows and grows and grows, these arrogant people will be the last to realize it because they will be denying the truth to themselves and looking for the sure signs of rebellion in all the wrong places. They are as blinded by ideology as the German volk were in the 1930s, as in love with a charismatic liar and as anxious to find scapegoats when the real fault lies with them.

  107. You know what I like about Rubio? He is a minority who doesn’t wear it on his sleeve. He is not pushing his minority background in as much as he is pushing his beliefs. He is beyond race, and that makes me feel very comfortable voting for him. I don’t view him as supporting one race above any other. It’s too bad that most Demorat minority politicians seem to push their minority agenda over anything else. That makes me feel very uneasy.
    ——————————
    Some of the finest Americans I have met were Cuban. I mentioned my friend whose family fled Cuba after Fidel took over. His parents got him and his sister together and told them they would not leave unless the children agreed and understood the consequences including the fact that when they became adults they might have to take up arms against Cuba. They all agreed and when the they fled and sought entry into the United States he was interviewed for one hour by a US District Court Judge and afterwards the Judge told his parents if you have any more like him and his sister send them to America we need more young people like them. Those are the kind of minorities that the Republican Party seems to be attracting. The other facto of course was that for centuries Cuba was the center of the Spanish empire, it attracted the merchant class some of whom emigrated to Tampa eighty years earlier, and when they came we did not get the poor tried masses yearning to steal American jobs and go on welfare but a middle class yearning to contribute. The Republican Party spoke to them about opportunity whereas the Democratic Party spoke to them about victimization. Also Kennedy left them holding the bag on the Bay of Pigs.

  108. Obama’s Alternate Bizarre Universe

    By Larry Johnson on August 24, 2010 at 9:39 PM in Current Affairs
    Just got the following in my inbox. This in a nutshell captures why Barack is in trouble and not likely to recapture his mojo with the American people:

    “Fathom the odd hypocrisy that President Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don’t have to prove they are citizens”. Author Unknown

    Wrap your mind around this. When it comes to health insurance your President demands that you prove you have health insurance and will impose financial penalties if you do not. Yet, when it comes to enforcing our nation’s immigration laws Mr. Barack Hussein Obama decides to sue the state and citizens of Arizona for the temerity to try to enforce Federal immigration law.

    Political cartoonist Mike Ramirez nails Obama’s cluelessness:

    Leave it to Barry-boy and Joe Biden to insist that the economy is swell.

    Just today Biden insisted:

    that the economic recovery was not proceeding as fast as the administration had hoped, but claimed there was “no doubt we’re moving in the right direction.”

    Moving in the right direction? Are you shitting me?

    All of this on the day we learn that the sale of existing homes dropped precipitously:

    The housing bears were right: existing home sales fell off a cliff in July. As my colleague Megan McArdle just noted, they sold at an annualized pace of 3.83 million, down by 27% versus June and 26% below July 2009, according to the National Association of Realtors. This is the lowest rate since NAR began keeping track of monthly sales in 1999. It’s also far worse than the rate of 4.7 million sales that the market expected. To understand just how bad July was for home sales, let’s look at some charts.

    Daniel Indiviglio at the Atlantic provides some extraordinary charts that put this mess into perspective:

    At no point, even when the recession and crisis were at full strength, were existing sales nearly so low — they never even dipped below 4.5 million. If you look at how wild existing sales were during the housing bubble, then July’s number looks even more painful:

    Then there is the question of inventory.

    This is the second highest inventory in a year. The number of months it would take to sell the current supply of homes also swelled in July to 12.5, which was a huge jump compared to June’s rate of 8.9. It’s also nearly double November’s rate of 6.5. Given the low rate of sales this summer and consistently high foreclosure rate, inventory will likely continue to grow.

    This is a really, really bad report. The awfulness of July’s sales were a little exaggerated due to all of the demand having been pulled forward form the buyer credit. But it’s unclear how many months of demand were captured early by the credit, so it’s hard to know when its effect will wear off. But here’s the positive spin from Lawrence Yun, NAR’s chief economist:

    Folks, in simple economic terms, if the supply of something is greater than the demand for something then the price of the good will fall. Got it? Falling home prices may ultimately be good news for future home buyers, but at present it is very bad news.

    And Barack’s response? He’s hunkered down inside a high school gym in Massachusetts shooting hoops. Raining too much to go swimming in the fecal contaminated waters of Martha’s Vineyard. Thank God for small mercies. It is one thing for Obama to be completely full of shit (he is). It is another if he is covered in it. That’s too unsavory a situation and not even a bad President, like Obama, should be shrouded with a glistening sheen of shit.

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  109. File this one under the delusions of the Left. The suggestion by Robert Scheer who is prominently featured in The Nation, Huffington Post and Hustler Magazine, that Mr Obama must shed himself of Summers Geitner and the Wall Street crowd if he is to be successful. How fucking delusional can you get? Obama is a puppet of these people. Yet Scheer pretends that the puppet can cut loose the puppeteer. His defense mechanism is to blame Clinton and Bush but not pet rock Barack who he claims has a free hand but for some inexplicable reason is not using it. Perhaps this is just another example of a high profile journalist trying to come to terms with the painful truth that was as bamboozled by Barack as the callow youth of this country. If you are interested here is the link: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/they_go_or_obama_goes_20100825/?ln

  110. Admin, please post at your convenience. thanks- 🙂
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    Jon Stewart’s interview with Rod Blagojvich. Why he didn’t take the stand on his own behalf.

    Pt1 and Pt2

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/exclusive—rod-blagojevich-extended-interview-pt–1

    The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon – Thurs 11p / 10c
    Exclusive – Rod Blagojevich Extended Interview Pt. 1
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  111. pm317, That is just terrible the way some people are stalking Sarah….they are REALLY scared of her…I hope she runs and blows the lid off their hate!

  112. The people who stalk Sarah are no different that KGB goons from the cold war era. They are the exact same kind of people. Robotic ideologues dispatched by the elites to wipe out the voice of populist rebellion in this country against the elite takeover and globalization of this nation. Not for nothing did the dean of the House John Dingle reveal this revealing piece of new age wisdom that in twenty years they will have the mechanisms in place to control the American People. He needs to be put up against the wall and questioned closely about what exactly he meant by that revealing comment. But big media let it pass for obvious reasons. Eisenhower warned us about the dangers posed by the military industrial complex but at that time it could be argued that their interests and ours were congruent in the sense that all boats rise with the tide. But more recently they have moved their game overseas, created the mortgage mess and left the American People holding the bag. They ought to get that bounty hunter you see on television to chase the journalists who are chasing Sarah and bring them to justice.

  113. The people at HotAir are laughing at Slate magazine:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/25/upset-in-alaska/

    Update III: Via commenter the_nile, Slate may have to do a little egg-wiping from its face today:

    On Tuesday, in her home state, Sarah Palin’s favorite will probably get trounced. Joe Miller is widely expected to lose by a large margin to incumbent Sen. Lisa Murkowski in the Republican primary—an embarrassing defeat for the former governor, who has endorsed Miller, but also to Miller’s other major backer, the Tea Party Express.

    Miller was a virtual unknown when he announced his Senate candidacy in April. But his big political debut came in June when both Palin and the Tea Party Express endorsed him. Miller sounds like he came out of some kind of Tea Party laboratory, with degrees from West Point and the University of Alaska, a Bronze Star from fighting in the Gulf War, and “correct” positions on guns, abortion, God, and big government (for, against, for, and against, respectively). Miller even has the right look: With a long, lean face, and stubble closer to 10 o’clock than 5, he could almost pass for Chuck Norris.

    Unfortunately for him, not even Chuck Norris in his most bad-ass role—which is, of course, Chuck Norris in real life—could rescue the Miller campaign. Always a long shot, Miller lags behind Murkowski, the heir to one of Alaska’s political dynasties, by double digits.

    Not even Chuck Norris could rescue Alexandra Gutierrez from her embarrassing defeat this morning. It appears that Alaskans actually do care about fiscal responsibility at the federal level, regardless of Gutierrez’ charming display of patronization.

  114. If you are a Dem, you want Bills endorement, and if you are a Rep, you want Sarah’s.

    However, when it comes to the General Election, I wonder how that will work. Can Bill save all the incumbents? or will he only support hard core HRC supporters.

  115. Hillary and Bill are on vacation this week; check out this great photo of them rockin’ out. BTW, also, notice that Jon Corzine comes thisclose to saying he wishes HRC were prez instead of Obama. You can tell he really does wish that, but there’d be hell to pay from the WH if he did, so he watches his words.

    styleite.com/media/bill-clinton-birthday-photo/

  116. Bill can’t save them if its a tsunami coming, his endorsement helps a lot but in a year when the public want balance in Govt, it will hard even for him to save some.

  117. Why won’t the White House Correspondents Association address Murdoch’s $1M donation to GOP?

    August 25, 2010
    by Eric Boehlert

    It would help clarify things if the WHCA addressed the issue of Fox News’ new front-row briefing room seat in the light of its parent company’s recent seven-figure donation to the Republican Party.

    As Media Matters reported yesterday, outgoing president Ed Chen called the decision to upgrade Fox News’ WHCA standing a “travesty”:

    “The vacancy was created because of an ideological conflict,” he said, referring to Thomas’ anti-Israel comments that led to her resignation. “To fill the vacancy with another cloud of ideological conflict was most unfortunate and inappropriate.”

    “You had Helen go out on this conflict over politics and a question of fairness,” Chen said. “You fill the seat with someone who drags in all of this controversy.”

    Ron Hutcheson, another former WHCA president who served from 2004-2005 while covering the White House for Knight-Ridder, said “a big political contribution by any news organization raises some questions. Clearly the management of Fox has political views. It raises questions and I don’t know the answer.”

    In the Media Matters report, current WHCA President David Jackson of USA Today did not address the issue of the million-dollar donation. Instead, he commented on how the WHCA board came to the decision to upgrade Fox News’ press room standing. But that decision came before the revelation of the $1M political gift to Republicans.

    Shouldn’t the WHCA be on the record in terms of the $1M gift? Does the association think it’s fine and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it? If so, why not just say so? Why not just go on the record saying that if, for instance, next week NBC’s corporate owners gave $1M to Democrats while stiffing Republicans, the WCHA would have no problem with that, and that kind of open and partisan political gift-giving wouldn’t affect NBC’s standing inside the WH press room?

    At least that way everyone would understand the ground rules.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008250013

  118. I have been wondering why big media is so far off the mark when it comes to Hillary, Obama, Tea Parties, and the darkening mood of the country. Certain factors are a given of course, including the influence of big money, the desire to please their editors, class bias and the desire to be accepted in a peer group which shares those values. But as the evidence of their delusions continues to mount in poll after poll, and they find that they cannot roll back through mere words the tide of reality, they must confront the fact that in addition to the foregoing certain psychological principles are also at work which disable their cognitive abilities such as they are:

    1. Rush To Judgment: the tendency to focus on initial information as a starting point, and the concomitant failure to adjust for new information which contradicts the initial impression.

    2. Selective Perception: seeking out information which confirms the initial judgment and being critical of information which contradicts or challenges it.

    3. Commitment Escalation: staying with the initial decision even when there is clear evidence that it is wrong.

  119. I am glad Sarah and her husband are taking pictures of these freaks so they can file charges on them and find out who they work for and why they are stalking her.

  120. JanH
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Can Mrs. Clinton be bribed into forgoing a 2012 challenge?

    Although sporting, none of the speculation means much at this stage. The size of the expected Democrat debacle in this fall’s elections has yet to play out, and that election will set the initial terms for 2012. Mrs. Clinton has no pressing need to change jobs. Meanwhile, the new documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced,” detailing alleged fraud involved in Mr. Obama’s 2008 nomination, has been gaining more attention in Democratic circles. If Hillary supporters are going to mount a party coup against the first black president, they will need a better argument than that he is a complete disaster in his job.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Yeah, what about:

    “He is a complete disaster in his job (as president representing the American people), and a failure as leader of his party, which he will drag into minority status for a generation.”

    If the Dems are smart, they’ll listen to their base that actually shows up year after year, rather than “newly inspired kids blogging on the internet who are not so sure if they still feel inspired, or like, whatever, dude.”

  121. “When and if we have a real revolution in this county, and that is not inconceivable in an economy where the jobless rate grows and grows and grows, these arrogant people will be the last to realize it because they will be denying the truth to themselves and looking for the sure signs of rebellion in all the wrong places”
    ********
    We, as a Country, are well and truly screwed. At this point in US history there is nowhere to turn; both Political Parties work for the same paymasters. The “Trotsky-its” give a good summary of the most recent economic bad news and a summary of rethug and dimocrat response:
    “Record drop in US home sales

    By Barry Grey
    25 August 2010

    Sales of existing US homes in July plunged by a record 27.2 percent from the previous month, according to a report released Tuesday by the National Association of Realtors.

    The virtual collapse in home sales affected every region of the country and was more than twice as bad as anticipated by economic analysts, who had forecast a drop of 12.1 percent. Sales fell to 3.83 million units, compared to June’s downwardly revised figure of 5.26 million.

    On a year-over-year basis, existing home sales in July were down 25.5 percent from an annual rate of 5.14 million units in July 2009.

    The July figure was the largest monthly drop since records began in 1968. It brought the rate of US home sales on an annualized basis to the lowest level since 1995.
    (snip)
    Neither the Obama administration nor its Republican opponents are proposing any serious measures to create jobs or provide relief for the more than 20 million workers who are either unemployed or underemployed….
    (snip)
    On Tuesday, John Boehner, the leader of the Republicans in the House of Representatives, made a demagogic speech in which he attempted to present himself as the advocate for unemployed and economically threatened working people. He denounced Obama for failing to stem the jobs crisis and called for the resignation of Obama’s top economic advisers, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Lawrence Summers, the director of the White House National Economic Council.

    However, his only concrete proposal was to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy—the 2 percent of households making more than $250,000 a year. He also criticized the extension of federal emergency jobless benefits and the $26 billion in federal aid to the states recently passed by Congress.
    (snip)
    In response, the Democrats, speaking out of both sides of their mouths, sought to foist the blame for mass unemployment and growing poverty on the Bush administration, while touting the supposed “success” of Obama’s economic policies. Vice President Joseph Biden said that Obama’s 2009 stimulus package was “working to rescue the economy from eight years of failed economic policy and rebuild it even stronger than before.”

    Speaking from the exclusive Massachusetts resort island of Martha’s Vineyard, where Obama is vacationing, White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton said Boehner “would fire the very people who helped to make the tough decisions, who helped to do the hard work to get our economy moving in the right direction again.”

    Those “tough decisions” include the multi-trillion-dollar bailout of the banks, the forced bankruptcy of General Motors and Chrysler, liquidation of tens of thousands of auto jobs, and imposition of a 50 percent cut in newly-hired auto workers’ wages, as well as the rejection of any further stimulus measures and focus instead on deeper cuts in social programs.

    Biden cited Obama’s auto policy as an example of successful “innovation.” The essence of this policy is to keep unemployment painfully high and use it as a bludgeon to permanently reduce the wages and living standards of the American working class, narrowing the differential between US workers and super-exploited workers in China, India and other “emerging economies.” On this basis, the Obama administration is seeking to revive US manufacturing as a cheap-labor platform for export to global markets.”

  122. The fact that the tea party candidate in Alaska endorsed by Sarah Palin stands a good chance of evicting the corporate Republican Murkowski is mega political for three reasons:

    1. first, it shows that big money cannot win if the people of this country unite against it.

    2. second, it repudiates the big media assessment of the outcome of this election and their more general hubris that they could crush the tea party movement by calling it racist, ignorant and terrorist.

    3. third, it shows the degree to which people are opposed to Obama. There is a bad tendency of corporate republicans to side with corporate democrats. This helps the grass roots people at red state who have no more use for people like McConnell than we have with Mr. Obama. All of us want Obama gone before he destroys our nation.

  123. Mr. Obama may stand in a gynasium and shoot hoops, like Nero fiddled, but he cannot escape responsibility for what is happening in peoples lives. He is on the hot seat whether the knows it or not, and it does not help that he rubs it in their faces the way he does. I do not pretend to understand the psychology of a sociopath, but surely there comes a point where he realizes that regardless of his name and money he more than anyone else is screwed.

  124. Alan Simpson, do we know anything about this guy and who appointed him?? He hates social security and I imagine he is going to help get rid of it. Obama is poison for the middleclass and poor. WHY DO THE DAILYKOOKS not get this??? I really never thought they are that stupid.

  125. JanH
    August 25th, 2010 at 11:48 am
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    This is all too funny. Yes, Murdoch donates one million dollars to the Republican party. Yet, the other news organizations like NBC, in a sense, have donated “in kind” to the Democratic party by being the voice of the Democratic party. Surely their “services” have reaped many a reward, including the presidency of the US, to the Demorat party. Poor babies, their just mad that Murdoch had the money to do so, while they are forced on making a donation of their services instead.

  126. So, Dan Quayle’s son is in the spotlight. I hope that he is not so divisive that he loses in November. Democrats must lose everywhere!

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    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/08/25/ben-quayle-leading-in-contest-for-gop-house-seat/

    Ben Quayle Wins Tight GOP Race for House Seat in Arizona

    Ben Quayle, the 33-year-old son of former Vice President Dan Quayle, narrowly topped a crowded GOP field in the contest to succeed retiring Rep. John Shadegg (R) in Arizona’s 3rd congressional district.

    Quayle collared 22.7 percent of the vote. Steve Moak, a successful Paradise Valley entrepreneur, was in second place with 18 percent, while Jim Waring was third with 17.4 percent, trailed by seven other candidates.

    The bitter contest pitted 10 candidates against one another in the conservative district, where three state legislators, two mayors, several businesspeople and the son of former Vice President Dan Quayle have been battling for months to win the nomination. Local reports calling the race “atomic” seem to understate the vitriol the candidates have spewed in recent weeks.

    Quayle emerged from the field early as the best-financed and most controversial candidate, raking in more than $1.3 million in campaign cash and engaging in heated attacks with nearly all of his more seasoned Republican rivals.

    The waning days of the campaign drew national attention as it grew more ugly and the other candidates accused Quayle of being everything from misogynist to spoiled to racist and unprepared for elected office.

    Pamela Gorman, a conservative state senator, said Quayle was trying to buy the election and called him “Hillary Lite,” referring to the fact that he has lived in the district intermittently for the last 14 years. Vernon Parker’s campaign called foul on Quayle for referring to Parker a “poster boy,” and implied that using the word “boy” against the African-American mayor of Paradise Valley was racially motivated.

    Moak engaged in a nasty fight with Quayle over Moak’s family foundation, leading an angry Moak to release an ad days before the election hammering Quayle over his involvement with DirtyScottsdale.com, a website Quayle wrote for that the ad called “raunchy” and said “degrades women.”

    “Is this the type of behavior we want from our next congressman?” the ad asked.

    But the attacks on Quayle failed to deter voters — 22.7 percent of them, anyway.

    The winner of the Republican contest will face Democrat Jon Hulburd in November. Hulburd, a lawyer and father of five, has raised more than $700,000 for the race so far, and will likely see his coffers swell with cash from national Democratic donors if he goes up against Quayle in the fall.

  127. confloyd
    August 25th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
    Alan Simpson, do we know anything about this guy and who appointed him?? He hates social security and I imagine he is going to help get rid of it. Obama is poison for the middleclass and poor.

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    Confloyd, Simpson is the former republican senator of Wyoming, and a long time advocate of destroying social security. As for who appointed him, who do you think appointed him co-chair of the president’s so-called deficit reduction committee? The president did. This is why I truely laugh at the ignorance of anyone who claims Obama is some far left socialist. He’s the first Democratic president to ever actively seek to cut social security. Most people on the left have been sounding the alarm bells for months about the “defict reduction” committee and particularly simpson. Daily Obama is basically an unofficial arm of the Obama re-election campaign and thus they never go after him, but many on the left are and have.

  128. mj, this Alan Simpson is a scary dude. I for one have never thought Obama was a far leftie. He is a prostitute willing to sell his sould to the highest bidder.

  129. He’s a piece of work. Frankly, that whole deficit commission is scary. It’s stacked 14 to 4 with people who have long advocated cutting social security.

  130. Daniel Pearl’s father:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/maggiehaberman/0810/Pearls_father_Move_mosque.html

    Judea Pearl, the father of slain journalist Daniel Pearl, says the proposed Islamic center near ground zero should be moved, the Jewish Telegraph agency reports.

    “If I were [New York] Mayor Bloomberg I would reassert their right to build the mosque, but I would expend the same energy trying to convince them to put it somewhere else,” he said. “Public reaction tells us that it is not the right time, and that it will create further animosity and division in this country.”

    Bloomberg invoked the memory of Daniel Pearl — who was killed by Islamic militants — during a forceful defense of the mosque last night, quoting a speech the project’s leader, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, delivered at a memorial service for Pearl in 2003.

    Judea Pearl doesn’t join the condemnation of Rauf, who has become a primary target of the mosque’s loudest critics, but does appear to attribute some blame to (or at least disappoint with) Muslim-Americans for the tenor of the debate:

    Pearl told JTA that while he was “touched” by Rauf’s appearance and speech at his son’s memorial, “many Muslim leaders offered their condolences at the time.” More to the point, Pearl said he is discouraged that the Muslim leadership has not followed through on what he hoped would come from his son’s death.

    “At the time, I truly believed Danny’s murder would be a turning point in the reaction of the civilized world toward terrorism,” said Pearl, who engages in public conversations with Akbar Ahmed, an Islamic studies professor at American University, on behalf of the Daniel Pearl Dialogue for Muslim-Jewish Understanding. The established Muslim leadership in the United States, Pearl said, “has had nine years to build up trust by pro-actively resisting anti-American ideologies of victimhood, anger and entitlement.”

    “Reactions to the mosque project indicate that they were not too successful in this endeavor.”

    He views the controversy to be a vote of no confidence in the organized Muslim leadership, not specifically against Rauf.

  131. He is a prostitute willing to sell his soul to the highest bidder.
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    He was/is the perfect stooge/puppet for “big money” and the greedy morons at the DNC, who saw the path to unlimited campaign money and congressional majorities forever. Obama is a-political, a-moral and a-religious. He will sellout to the highest bidder. I don’t think that he cares about money (that would be Michelle) but for the use of money to advance his ego. The Dem leadership figured that Obama was corrupt, could what was written for him, and would do what he was told to do by Pelosi, Reid, etc. The minor detail that they missed was that Obama is a sociopath who will do as he pleases for reasons that only he understands. The utter stupidity of the DNC will be front and center on election night Nov. 2010.

  132. wbboei
    August 25th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    Jan: Eric Boehlert of Media Matters is damaged goods

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    Agreed. Wanted to show the hypocrisy.

  133. The attacks and slander on Bill Clinton start again. He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

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    AUGUST 26, 2010

    From Obama, Left Begs for Clinton, Gets Only Carter

    The left have given up on 2010 and now fear November 2012.

    By DAN GAINOR
    From the Media Research Center

    A $787 billion bailout. A health care “reform” law that could bury the entire nation in debt. And a trillion-dollar deficit that could repeat every year for the foreseeable future.

    All that spending means it’s time for the Bill.

    Bill Clinton, that is. The media and the left are so intent on saving the Obama presidency from its inner Jimmy Carter that they have brought back the one man they know could keep those evil conservatives at bay. The Big Dog himself has returned for yet another romp in the sun.

    Obama supporters called in their last, best hope – a smiling, slimmer William Jefferson Clinton. Lefties both in and out of the press want Clinton to pass his mojo onto their new favorite son. They have good reason to believe. Although his presidency was marked by scandal, it was also the first time since FDR that a Democratic president won reelection. The left knows November is coming, but they have given up on 2010 and now fear November 2012.

    Of course the press is in full support of the sequel for the man from Hope. Clinton wasn’t just in the news for the ridiculous coverage given to his daughter Chelsea’s wedding. He was there supporting Andrew Romanoff for the U.S. Senate against Obama’s wishes. He was also the UN special envoy to Haiti meeting Haitian officials for the earthquake anniversary.

    In all, the president-turned-punchline was on ABC, CBS and NBC more than 140 times in just three months. That’s roughly four times as often as the networks mentioned his successor, George W. Bush, in the same time.

    There was Bill Clinton politician, smiling, glad-handing and hoping to rescue the plummeting poll numbers of his amateurish replacement. It was like the millennium never happened. MSNBC’s Chris Matthews asked the questions about the aging president liberals wanted to know: “Will Bill Clinton be the most effective Democrat this year? Will he be the happy warrior that saves the Democrats?”

    To show how desperate the left is, Matthews argued for Clinton to be out on the campaign trail … selling values. “I’d sell Democratic values if I were him.” Presumably not the vows of chastity, fidelity, honesty and poverty, to name just a few.

    But Matthews wasn’t the only one remembering past thrills from the Clinton camp. Barron’s Senior Editor Michael Santoli reminded ABC viewers that Clinton won in 1992 “on it’s the economy stupid,” though the recovery had already begun. That was a lesson for current voters, he explained on July 31. “But it doesn’t mean the economy is really derailed just because it feels like it’s no good.” Yes, that massive unemployment and all the negative economic news are all in the imaginations of voters. Prosperity is just around the corner.

    Never fear, Bill is here, or he’s not far away. Even Obama had to swallow his overly large pride and make that happen. As ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, also a former Clinton adviser, told viewers July 15, the White House needed reinforcements. So, “to help him out, President Obama did something he hasn’t done all that often. He called in Bill Clinton.”

    Since Team Obama wants a return to the Clinton years, it makes sense that we return to Clinton terminology. Cue the media talking “triangulation.” Remember that concept? It was the “third way” pushed by then-Clinton adviser Dick Morris that advocated a mix of leftwing and rightwing policies.

    One-time conservative-turned MSNBC talking head Joe Scarborough addressed the issue with the “Morning Joe” audience Aug. 12. Scarborough and crew discussed the chance that Gibbs’s criticism of the “professional left” was a deliberate attempt to appear more moderate. “So now he`s triangulating,” summed up Scarborough.

    On ABC’s new “This Week” with silly lefty Christiane Amanpour, they talked about how a loss in the midterms could actually help Obama in 2012 by putting heat on the GOP. According to Thompson-Reuters Global Editor-at-Large Chrystia Freeland, such a result might be needed so Obama “can start to triangulate.”

    For all that talk about Obama being more like Clinton, he’s been like Carter – waffling while the economy and the country go decline. On the mosque issue alone he took four separate positions in the space of a week – first he wouldn’t comment, then he was for it, then he backed off and finally he backed off backing off. That’s not leadership, it’s clown college.

    The Christian Science Monitor said it well on July 14. “When President Clinton lost control of Congress in his first midterms, in 1994, he was able to regroup and ‘triangulate’ his way to reelection, by finding common cause with conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans. Whether Obama has the skill to do that is questionable.”

    That’s OK. Democrats are prepared in case the Clinton offensive doesn’t work. They have another Clinton in mind. Already there’s talk of Hillary taking over at vice president or Hillary running in the primary. The Hill even had Hillary taking over the Pentagon. “Speculation in the nation’s capital on who will replace Robert Gates at the Pentagon has centered on an intriguing possibility: Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

    So, really, the Democrats only have one seven-letter strategy – Clinton. And they say conservatives are the ones without ideas.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703632304575451653299662706.html

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