Mosque Of Doom Dimocrats

It’s a fake community center only a fake community organizer could love. The Mosque of Doom builders are too busy to answer questions about their plans for the great unity to come. But the Mosque of Doom builders are not to busy to post attacks on other religions on their official Twitter site.

Meanwhile Obama Dimocrats are throwing themselves under the bus and Nancy Pelosi must have a bottle of Gin she’s taken more than one “nip” from. It is increasingly clear that the Mosque of Doom will crush Obama Dimocrats and they must get rid of this issue before Labor Day. Like an asteroid approaching the Earth bringing death, destruction, and doom, the Mosque of Doom must be deflected – before Labor Day – before November 2011 – before November 2012.

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JournoLister Ben Smith at Politico posted an article about the tolerant “tweets” coming from the Mosque of Doom official Twitter account. Among the official “tweets” from the self-proclaimed paragons of tolerance were these questions to someone who uses the name “Amish”: “1. What are you doing on the computer? 2. That’s not very Amish 3. Shouldn’t you be making butter?

Such tolerance and sensitivity melts our hearts!

In another “tweet”, the person who authored the official Mosque of Doom response to an Ha’aretz article, declared: “On a side note, if Haaretz likes publishing fables, perhaps they could go back to the Yiddish ones with parables”

Such sensitivity! Such unifying rhetoric! How dare anyone question the motives of these Mosque of Doom advocates!

Soon after various websites (and Greg Gutfeld’s “Red Eye” TV show) discussed the offensive “tweets”, the up till then official responder to Ha’aretz, was declared an intern and “replaced”. The offensive “tweets” were wiped from the record, never to be seen again.

The Mosque of Doom builders are such great “uniters” that it is hard to track all their activities. Indeed, the Mosque of Doom builders are so busy uniting they cannot meet with the Governor of New York.Mosque Developer Rejects Meeting With Paterson” blares the headline.

Are the Mosque of Doom builders refusing to meet with the Governor of New York because the governor is blind and black – or is it his breath? It certainly cannot be because the Mosque of Doom builders are intolerant and refuse dialog when their alleged raison d’etre is tolerance and dialogue.

The Mosque of Doom does have some friends. The Mosque of Doom friends are doing some rather astonishing business. So tolerant, or is it desperate, are the Doomers that they think George W. Bush will save their precious Mosque. This is the same George W. Bush that Obama Dimocrats think will save them in November because they plan to run the entire Obama Dimocratic Campaign as an anti George W. Bush referendum. But how can you run against George W. Bush by calling him a savior?

Garbage scow Maureen Dowd says “W. needs to get his bullhorn back out”. Garbage truck Eugene Robinson moans “I… would hove to hear from former President Bush on this issue“. Garbage can Peter Beinart wept, “Words I never thought I’d write: I pine for George W. Bush”.

Perhaps the Mosque of Doom is already working it’s unity magic. All these Obama Dimocrats who wanted W. Bush and his administration prosecuted now want W. Bush to save them from B. Obama (the “B” stands for “boob”). All these Obama Dimocrats want to utilize W. Bush as a demon figure in order to win elections but at the same time these Obama Dimocrats want W. Bush to come to their rescue. Obama Dimocrats will be “for” W. Bush before they are “against” W. Bush. Or is it they are “against” W. Bush before they are “for” W. Bush. It’s all very confusing.

Obama appears to be the most confused of all (and testy too). Obama was “for” the Mosque of Doom before he was “against” the Mosque of Doom. That is, if you believe Obama said he was “for” the Doom Mosque and his later “No comment” on the Doom Mosque, which on Sunday he “clarified” by stating he was “for” what it was he said on Friday which today he says he is “for”.

Ignore that previous paragraph. Consider it a missive from “Amish”. Wipe it off your memory. What we meant to say, What Obama Really Meant is that he is Edith Piaf – “No Regrets”.



Non, je ne regrette rien:

“Via Greg Hengler, a silly question gets a silly answer. How else could he respond? “Why yes, in light of the catastrophic polling on this issue for my party, I should have avoided even the lame, equivocating statement I gave initially”? His disapproval rating has been creeping up in Gallup ever since he weighed in, rising from 48 percent last week to a siren-worthy 52 percent today. Of course he regrets it. But now he’s stuck with it, so here’s his — very — perfunctory show of resoluteness in the face of self-generated adversity.

The media meme du jour, naturally enough, is that the mosque debate is causing an intra-party crack-up — on the right. Our Democratic president is at odds with our Democratic Senate majority leader, and our Democratic Speaker of the House has lost her ever-lovin’ mind, and meanwhile national polls show even a majority of Democrats in opposition to the mosque, and yet … somehow it’s conservatives who have been torn apart by this issue. Good work, Politico. So batty have liberals become, in fact, that supposedly clear-eyed, battle-hardened, bottom-line political operative Mark Halperin is now screaming for Obama to wade in further on the mosque’s behalf instead of shutting up until this goes away:”

Mark Halperin is inconsolable over Obama’s “losing control of his public image on a key issue” Full regret was left to others, willingly flinging themselves under the bus to get away from the poison that is Barack Obama.

“After almost total silence from New York elected officials over the weekend after President Obama’s mosque speech (in which some members were out of town, or pocket), the reactions from members in swing districts are starting to come in — and they’re almost all at odds with the president.”

Michael Arcuri the NY-24 incumbent is against building the Mosque of Doom. Mike McMahon of NY-13 (which has many 9/11 families) wrote: “We have seen very clearly in the past weeks that building a mosque two blocks from ground zero will not promote necessary interfaith dialogue, but will continue to fracture the faiths and citizens of our city and this country. As such, I am opposed to the construction of the Cordoba Center at the currently-proposed location and urge all parties to work with local community leaders to find a more appropriate site.”

Steve Israel of NY-2 said, “While they have a constitutional right to build the mosque, it would be better if they had demonstrated more sensitivity to the families of 9/11 victims. I urge them to do so before proceeding further.”

Tim Bishop of NY-1 said “As a New Yorker, I believe ground zero is sacred ground and should unite us. If the group seeking to build the mosque is sincere in its efforts to bring people together, I would urge them to seek an alternative location which is less divisive. I dispute the wisdom of building at that location, not the constitutional right.”

Howard Dean, who whored slavishly for Obama for so long, ran under the bus and away from Obama too. Howie wants a relocation and thinks the Mosque of Doom is “a real affront”.



2×4 Chuck Schumer is in hiding, aware that buses are prowling the streets looking for his treacherous self:

“The National Republican Senatorial Committee on Monday targeted Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., for not speaking out on the issue. Citing an article that said the normally chatty Schumer would not comment on the mosque remarks, the NRSC said Schumer should weigh in.

“It’s a remarkable commentary on the most camera-friendly senator that hes more than happy to weigh-in on caffeinated malt beverages, but he wont take a public position on the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero,” NRSC spokesman Brian Walsh said in a written statement.

“It’s time for Chuck Schumer to stand up and be counted — does he stand with President Obama in support of this mosque or does he stand with the countless 9/11 families who believe its location is inappropriate?” Walsh asked.”

2×4 Chuck Schumer must be made to respond to the Mosque of Doom question. Are yer fer or agin it Chuckie boy? ‘Fess up!

To her credit, Nancy Pelousy has taken a gin soaked stand. [Charles Krauthammer thinks it is “lunacy” not the effects of gin.] Pelousy was out on Treasure Island. Not the pirate and rum soaked Treasure Island of Robert Louis Stevenson. This Treasure Island preferred Gin to Rum:

“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday said she supports an investigation into groups opposing the building of a mosque near ground zero in New York.

Pelosi told San Francisco’s KCBS radio that “there is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some.”

“I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded,” she said. “How is this being ginned up?

Put down the gin bottle Nancy.

“There is no question that there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some, and I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded. How is this being ginned up, that here we are, talking about Treasure Island, something we’ve been working on for decades, something of great interest to our community as we go forward to an election about the future of our country, and two of the first three questions are about a zoning issue in New York City.”

Perhaps Nancy Pelousy is too ginned up to understand that no one, other than herself, is calling for an investigation into the funding of those who oppose the Mosque of Doom. There are questions about who is funding the Mosque of Doom, but Nancy needs to put down the Beefeater bottle and look up and see the approaching asteroid.



Fundraising questions Nancy? Fundraising questions???:

“The developers behind the Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero won’t rule out accepting financing from the Mideast — including from Saudi Arabia and Iran — as they begin searching for $100 million needed to build the project.

The religious organization and the development company behind the center declined to say how much of the $100 million needed to build the facility has already been raised.”

Such transparency! Such openness! Such elevated dialogue!

“When asked if they would then turn to foreign donors, Sultan replied, “I can’t comment on that.”

Pressed on whether the developers were willilng rule out accepting donations from the governments of Saudi Arabia or Iran, he repeated, “I can’t comment on that.

So much information coming from the Mosque of Doom now. Imagine the golden future when the Mosque of Doom is fully built and hosting all those ecumenical events with Iran’s president attacking the very idea of a Holocaust or perhaps Barack Obama will come to bow before the Imam. We can’t wait to see the souvenir stand stocked full of World Trade Center Twin Towers candles. We can extrapolate the unity and openness to come from the unity and openness already displayed.

The Obama Mosque of Doom, just like Barack Obama, will be a uniter not a divider.



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Supporters of the Mosque of Doom must realize that the Mosque of Doom and it’s builders are not “moderates”. Quite the opposite. The Muslims that need to be encouraged to speak up against the horrors of modern day Islam will be hurt and demoralized by the Mosque of Doom. Don’t take our word for it. Listen to the Muslims who say this openly:

“A House of Worship or a Symbol of Destruction?

By Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid

Abdul Rahman Al-Rashed the general manager of Al -Arabiya television. Mr. Al Rashed is also the former editor-in-chief of Asharq Al- Awsat, and the leading Arabic weekly magazine, Al Majalla. He is also a senior Columnist in the daily newspapers of Al Madina and Al Bilad. He is a US post-graduate degree in mass communications. He has been a guest on many TV current affairs programs. He is currently based in Dubai.”

What does Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid say that Obama Dimocrats need to read? It’s a Mosque of Doom:

“US President Barack Obama adopted a difficult position when he supported the building of a mosque near ground zero, where 3,000 US citizens died at the hands of Al-Qaeda terrorists on 11 September 2001.

Despite the fact that the president adopted the correct stance in principle, i.e. the principle of freedom of worship, in my opinion he adopted an unnecessary and unimportant stance, even as far as Muslims are concerned. The mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they are not bothered by its construction.

This reminds us of another principled stance Obama took when he insisted on putting the Guantanamo prisoners accused of belonging to Al-Qaeda on trial before civilian courts, and on closing down the military prison. It is true that this stance deserves appreciation. However, the fact is that he fought a battle that does not concern Muslims across the world, because there are tens of thousands of Muslims – similar to those accused of extremism – who are imprisoned in worse conditions in Muslim countries.

Muslims do not aspire for a mosque next to the 11 September cemetery, and are not bothered with Bin Ladin’s cook being put on trial in a civilian court.”

Obama and Obama Dimocrats are flinging themselves into the pyre of fire for nothing. The Mosque of Doom is a killer without benefits:

“The fact is that building a mosque next to the site of the World Trade Center Twin Towers, which were destroyed during the 11 September attacks, is a strange story. This is because the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens!

Neither did the Muslims ask for a single building, nor do the angry Muslims want the mosque. This is one of the few times when the two opposing sides are in agreement. [snip]

I cannot imagine that Muslims want a mosque on this particular site, because it will be turned into an arena for promoters of hatred, and a symbol of those who committed the crime. At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district. Is there a side that is committed to this mosque? The fact is that in the news reports there are names linked to this project that costs 100 million dollars![snip]

I do not know whether the building applicant wants a mosque whose aim is reconciliation, or he is an investor who wants quick profits. This is because the idea of the mosque specifically next to the destruction is not at all a clever deed. The last thing Muslims want today is to build just a religious center out of defiance to the others, or a symbolic mosque that people visit as a museum next to a cemetery.

What the US citizens do not understand is that the battle against the 11 September terrorists is a Muslim battle, and not theirs, and this battle still is ablaze in more than 20 Muslim countries.

This is the key sentence of the argument, one we have made and which Mosque of Doom supporters need to consider because it is the source of the emotional tuning fork which will turn the Mosque of Doom into a defining issue this November. Read it and weep, Mosque of Doom supporters:

Some Muslims will consider that building a mosque on this site immortalizes and commemorates what was done by the terrorists who committed their crime in the name of Islam. I do not think that the majority of Muslims want to build a symbol or a worship place that tomorrow might become a place about which the terrorists and their Muslim followers boast, and which will become a shrine for Islam haters whose aim is to turn the public opinion against Islam. This is what has started to happen now; they claim that there is a mosque being built over the corpses of 3,000 killed US citizens, who were buried alive by people chanting God is great, which is the same call that will be heard from the mosque.”

The Mosque of Doom is the thunder and lightning of a storm to come. The storm arrives in November.

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503 thoughts on “Mosque Of Doom Dimocrats

  1. It is still amazing to me that 41% of the people continue to approve of this Fraud. How, I ask, can this be so?

  2. It’s a remarkable commentary on the most camera-friendly senator that hes more than happy to weigh-in on caffeinated malt beverages, but he wont take a public position on the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero,” NRSC spokesman Brian Walsh said in a written statement.
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    The Repubs ALWAYS have the best comebacks…malt beverages…too funny. Too bad they didn’t use it against the Fraud in 2008.

  3. It just gets better and better. What more proof do you want that he does not have the experience, and even when he does have the experience, he does not seem to learn from it.

    You would think after the professor and the policy event, he would have waited and thought carefully about weighing in on this.

    Obviouly not. How long of a learning curve does he have!

  4. gonzotx
    August 18th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    It is still amazing to me that 41% of the people continue to approve of this Fraud. How, I ask, can this be so?
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    Big media.

  5. The Mosque will be a minor issue by the midterms imho. It is a distraction/religious baiting tactic used by Obie as he did when Hillary was ahead in the primaries. Now, however, it is being used to distract from the almost 10% unemployment rate (much higher if you include the under-employed). The republicans can “gin” some points on this, but they must state the obvious, “it’s the economy stupid”.

  6. Bravo admin Bravo!

    I’ve read your article twice now and all I can think is thank God for you and your wonderful articles.

  7. Holy smokes!

    What a mess! This guy Sharif El-Gamal has to be the worst diplomat ever! It makes me sympathetic to Israel to think they’ve been negotiating with people like this for 60 years. It’s not like we’re negotiating over Jerusalem. Move the f–ing Mosque! Jesus!

    A guy on Daily Caller points out that Obama won’t comment on a ‘local issue’ like Ground Zero — but he sticks his nose into Jewish settlements in Israel. He tells Netanyahu not to build in his own country, but the site of the worst attack on American soil in history is a ‘local zoning issue.’

  8. Why would Obama stick his neck out for two-bit pikers who are developing this mosque? He just doused himself with gasoline and lit a match, for absolutely no reason.

    This really is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. This is the one that makes America turn of the TV and say, “That’s it. These people really are crazy….”

  9. Dickie Morris was flabberghasted on O’Reilly tonight. He can’t even imagine an explanation for why Obama would do this to himself and his party.

  10. Hillary Clinton may have hit her Kissinger moment in Asia

    Hillary Clinton’s recent trip to Asia may one day be seen as the most significant visit to the region by a United States diplomat since Henry Kissinger’s secret mission to Beijing in July 1971.

    Kissinger’s mission triggered a diplomatic revolution. Renewal of US-Chinese relations shifted the global balance of power at the Cold War’s height, and prepared the way for China to open its economy – the decision that, more than any other, has defined today’s world. What Clinton did and said during her Asian tour will mark either the end of the era that Kissinger initiated four decades ago, or the start of a distinct new phase in that epoch.

    Clinton’s tour produced the clearest signals yet that America is unwilling to accept China’s push for regional hegemony. Offstage at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit in Hanoi, Clinton challenged Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi over Beijing’s claim that its ownership of the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea was now a “core interest.” By that definition, China considers the islands (whose ownership is disputed by Vietnam and the Philippines) as much a part of the mainland as Tibet and Taiwan, making any outside interference taboo.

    Rejecting this, Clinton proposed that the US help establish an international mechanism to mediate the overlapping claims of sovereignty between China, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia that now exist in the South China Sea.

    For China, Clinton’s intervention came as a shock, and, given the warm response she received from her Vietnamese hosts – despite criticizing Vietnam’s human-rights record – the secretary of state may well have raised the issue at least partly at their urging, and perhaps with additional prompting from Malaysia and the Philippines.

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=118315#ixzz0wz6OEN5x

  11. Spike Lee slams gov’t over BP
    Spike Lee slams gov’t over BP

    Filmmaker Spike Lee appeared on MSNBC’s “Countdown” Tuesday night to discuss his new documentary on Hurricane Katrina and the Gulf oil spill and their effects on New Orleans. Unsurprisingly, he had some sharp critiques at the ready.

    Lee said that American greed stood to bring down the country: “We have people in office appointed and voted in and people in big business positions who only care about the dollar bill, and there are people [who] get harmed, people [who] die. They say that’s the cost of doing business.”

    Lee also said that he thinks the U.S. government has been a puppet for BP.

    “Throughout this whole thing, I feel — and a lot of those people feel down here — that BP was dictating [to] the United States government what to do,” he said. “BP dictated [to] the FAA who could fly over the site. BP dictated to the Coast Guard and Thad Allen which boats can come and go. And BP dictated [to] the EPA — the EPA sent a letter to BP saying we have serious concerns about your dispersant, Corexit. They sent back [one] saying, we’re going to use it anyway. So BP’s been running things.”

    The documentary, “If God Is Willing and Da Creek Don’t Rise” debuts on HBO on Aug. 23.

    Watch the full segment:

    http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1008/spike_lee_slams_govt_over_bp.html

  12. hwc
    August 18th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Dickie Morris was flabberghasted on O’Reilly tonight. He can’t even imagine an explanation for why Obama would do this to himself and his party.
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    I didn’t see the interview but Morris’ article yesterday wasn’t his usual convincing cutting edge stuff- He’s probably following HC wherever she goes to spin another whopper hoping he will eventually come up with a winner! Another variation of the dart board stock picking dynamic.

  13. JbStonesFan, the Mosque of Doom will be the second most important issue (to the economy) this November. That is why it will not be built.

    The issue that Obama Dimocrats have to ask themselves now is “when?” The best thing for Obama Dimocrats is that the Mosque of Doom is deflected before Labor Day. Frankly, they better try to fix this mess before Obama goes to Martha’s Vineyard if they have any brain cells left. If they do not get the Mosque of Doom moved before Labor Day, they will suffer every day, every hour with Americans back from their humble and cheap vacations (the only affordable ones) and paying attention. And all the suffering will be for naught.

    If Obama Dimocrats do not stop this bleeding due to the Mosque immediately, the Republicans will get even bigger victory margins in November. And then the Republicans will do nothing about this either. The Republicans will “Let It Bleed”. They know the best thing for them is to let the Mosque of Doom asteroid zoom into 2011 and 2012. Republicans know this Mosque is already dead and will not be built. The financing will never appear, the trade unions will be hesitant and the insurance costs during construction and post construction will be astronomical. But every day the Mosque is on the drawing board, the Republicans win and Obama Dimocrats are distracted, divided and deluded.

    The best thing for Obama Dimocrats is for the Mosque of Doom to get moved this August, before the campaign season officially starts post Labor Day. The damage has already been done – distracting Obama from the economy and his myriad other disasters. Once the Mosque is moved, Republicans will celebrate and then move on to the Economy of Doom (yup, that’s our post Mosque of Doom pivot).

  14. Illegal immigration, New Black Panthers, Sherrod, Gates. 50% say waffles is doing a good job on race relations according to Gallop. HUH?
    Maybe there will be riots in the streets and Nov elections will be postponed.

  15. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/19/nyregion/19dolan.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion

    Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church in New York, said Wednesday that he would gladly help mediate between the proponents and critics of an Islamic center and mosque planned for a site two blocks from ground zero.

    The archbishop said that it was his “major prayer” that a compromise could be reached, and that while he had no strong feelings about the project, he might support finding a new location for the center.

    Speaking during an impromptu news conference at Covenant House, a Catholic shelter in Manhattan for homeless youth, Archbishop Dolan invoked the example of Pope John Paul II, who in 1993 ordered Catholic nuns to move from their convent at the former Auschwitz death camp after protests from Jewish leaders.

    “He’s the one who said, ‘Let’s keep the idea, and maybe move the address,’ ” the archbishop said. “It worked there; it might work here.”

    Archbishop Dolan is the most prominent New York religious leader to weigh in on the Islamic center, which has spurred a fierce national debate over freedom of religion and the legacy of 9/11 that has even drawn in President Obama.

  16. HeHeHe!!!!!….MODO asking for W to intervene in this mosque mess……who would have thunk it!!!!!!

    Yep….blame it on Bush!!!! or use him to escape the mess!!

  17. Mosque vs the graveyard of the Twin Towers.
    Nasty and Barry vs Reid and the majority of American’s.
    Corruption vs democracy.

    What ciaos Obama has thrown our county in, along with destroying our party in less than a half of one term.

    Yup, the waters have parted and the tsunami is gonna slap HIM silly in just three months!

    Karma is a comin’…………

  18. Some Muslims work in that area. Up to 450 people are already using it for prayers.

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    Purchased in May 2009, the former Burlington Coat Factory building at 45-47 Park Place has been used for Friday prayer for [up to 450] Muslims ever since.
    [….]
    Buildings Department spokesman Tony Sclafani said the building’s owners have been receiving temporary permits for a place of assembly, which he said allows them to use the building for worship services. “Right now, they are in compliance,” he said.
    The owners have received nine temporary permits. “This is a common practice,” Sclafani said.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/safety_woe_at_mosque_JQtk5Z1I7OJ8rBR37r4tOI#ixzz0x1UzJTcH

  19. Republicans know this Mosque is already dead and will not be built. The financing will never appear, the trade unions will be hesitant and the insurance costs during construction and post construction will be astronomical.

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    Yup.

    So why beat an aborted horse?

  20. Maybe Obama wanted to fan this non-mosque flap as a distraction from the Gulf non-cleanup.

    The Gulf is real. Quick, switch to symbolism and ad hominem!

  21. TurnDownObama – It’s not dead yet and it’s the right thing to do. The stronger the opposition the greater the price to be paid. As a side benefit more and more Americans are seeing how absolutely unprepared and inexperienced Obama is.

  22. hwc
    August 18th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Why would Obama stick his neck out for two-bit pikers who are developing this mosque? He just doused himself with gasoline and lit a match, for absolutely no reason.

    This really is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. This is the one that makes America turn of the TV and say, “That’s it. These people really are crazy….”
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    I don’t know what ‘pikers’ are, but Barry has lit his own match with this one.
    All his bowing to leaders of the middle east, and now this slap against the memory of 9-11, it reaches into the American gut, it hurts, and his plastic fantastic words are exposing his distance with most American’s.
    He’s toast.

  23. admin
    As a side benefit more and more Americans are seeing how absolutely unprepared and inexperienced Obama is.

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    Yup, Admin. Even those that do not follow politics, get the jest of this huge blunder by Barry. In-your-face lack of leadership and connection with the American people.

  24. Obama is snapping at reporters who want to ask him more questions about the mosque with a swimming pool. The Democratic leadership is splintering and has no consistent messaging. Journolist propagandists are bending themselves into pretzels. Children (some literally and others just mentally) who post diaries at Daily Kos are attacking zoning laws and espousing extreme and radical property rights, while others are trying to justify seditious and other illegal behaviors as religion protected by the constitution. This is showing the Democratic party as a bunch of nuts with no common sense and looking for ways to be snide, lecturing, and instructive to the ignorant masses. We are seeing an “Enough” moment. And Spike Lee is saying Obama is a wholly owned product subsidiary of British Petroleum. I also think Reid and Dean just told the President to shut the hell up. Come November the implosion will be complete.

  25. Soros is pulling his billions out of the U.S. stockmarket according to Fox & Friends this morning. WTF??

  26. MSNBC parsing it again but look at those figures on the last line.

    Poll: Many incorrectly call Obama a Muslim

    WASHINGTON — Americans increasingly are convinced — incorrectly — that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a growing number are thoroughly confused about his religion.

    Nearly one in five people, or 18 percent, said they think Obama is Muslim, up from the 11 percent who said so in March 2009, according to a poll released Thursday. The proportion who correctly say he is a Christian is down to just 34 percent.

    The largest share of people, 43 percent, said they don’t know his religion, an increase from the 34 percent who said that in early 2009.

    The survey, conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center and its affiliated Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, is based on interviews conducted before the controversy over whether Muslims should be permitted to construct a mosque near the World Trade Center site. Obama has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic center there, though he’s also said he won’t take a position on whether they should actually build it.

    In a separate poll by Time magazine/ABT SRBI conducted Monday and Tuesday — after Obama’s comments about the mosque — 24 percent said they think he is Muslim, 47 percent said they think he is Christian and 24 percent didn’t know or didn’t respond.

    In addition, 61 percent opposed building the Muslim center near the Trade Center site and 26 percent said they favor it.

    The Pew poll found that about three in 10 of Obama’s fiercest political rivals, Republicans and conservatives, say he is a Muslim. That is up significantly from last year and far higher than the share of Democrats and liberals who say so. But even among his supporters, the number saying he is a Christian has fallen since 2009, with just 43 percent of blacks and 46 percent of Democrats saying he is Christian.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38766014/ns/politics-white_house/

    ……………………….

    They don’t believe bambi anymore.

  27. I LOVE your writing style, admin.

    Facts, fiction, poetry, humor, commentary, opinion all blended into great reading material.

    This had me LOL and also helped lift a simmering bout of depression.

    ‘2×4 Chuck Schumer is in hiding, aware that buses are prowling the streets looking for his treacherous self:’

  28. Who needs a CIC with these connections like these?When BO moved on to the IL senate then to the US Senate all of his IL records were removed from his files.Perhaps even his birth records.I am posting another interesting Bo trail of evil cohorts that have now taken this fine country to the Chicago Cleaners.IMPEACH Now and let Hillary make her move as the angel of mercy to come to our rescue.

    Rezko Watch

    Friday, May 30, 2008
    Pringle Cliff Notes: Curtain Time for Barack Obama – Part 5 (Minority Owned Business Racket)
    This is part 5 of “Curtain Time for Barack Obama”—another in the series of condensed articles on “Operation Board Games”—written by Evelyn Pringle, a columnist for OpEd News and an investigative journalist focused on exposing corruption in government and corporate America.

    ——————————————————————————–

    To understand how the Combine works in Illinois it’s important to recognize that the state is divided into three levels of political clout, beginning with Chicago, Cook County and the state of Illinois, according to Chicago columnist Ray Hanania.

    It’s also important to remember that in December 2004, when Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) went house-hunting with his real estate fairy Tony Rezko, he did not consider the adverse effects on his presidential bid because Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich was still the candidate.

    The “Mr I did not know candidate”

    Throughout his campaign, Obama has claimed he was unaware that Rezko was under investigation for influence peddling in the months leading up to the time he bought the mansion in June 2005. In fact, he will still only admit that he should have known by the time he bought part of the lot next door from Rita Rezko in January 2006.

    On December 17, 2006, the Washington Post reported, “Obama said that he was unaware of Rezko’s brewing troubles in 2005.”

    In an interview, Post reporter Peter Slevin said to Obama: “You must have been aware he was under investigation, no?”

    According to the transcript, Obama stated: “I wasn’t particularly knowledgeable about these various issues that he was involved with, but as I’ve said before, there’s no doubt that I should have seen some red flags in terms of me purchasing a piece of property from him.”

    On November 11, 2007, when interviewed on Meet the Press, Tim Russert pointed out, “you bought property adjacent to each other, you bought land from him to expand your backyard.”

    “This was all after he had been – it had been reported he was under federal investigation,” Russert said. “Why were you associating with such a person?” he asked Obama.

    “The, the purchase of the land was after he–it was reported that he was under federal investigation,” Obama replied.

    As late as January 23, 2008, Obama appeared on the morning news shows claiming he did not know Rezko was involved in corruption with statements like:

    “”The facts are this. This is somebody who was active in politics in Illinois, who I knew. Nobody had any indications that he was engaging in wrong-doing.”

    “Nobody had an inkling that he was involved in any problems.”

    Two months later, in a March 14, interview with the Tribune, he was asked: “When did you first realize that Tony Rezko might be involved in the kind of influence peddling that [he stands on trial for doing]?”

    “I had no indication that he was doing anything illegal, and since he’s on trial, I don’t want to characterize what he did or did not do,” Obama stated.

    Investigations of bid-rigging at O’Hare Airport by Obama contributors

    In January 2005, the same month Obama was sworn into the US Senate, after an election funded by the Combine, he submitted 3 bids for the mansion at a time when the media was broadcasting the fact that investigations into influence peddling by his contributors were escalating.

    On January 14, 2005 the Sun-Times pointed out that Christopher Kelly “runs a roofing venture that has received multimillion-dollar city contracts for work at O’Hare and Midway airports, and he has donated and loaned hundreds of thousands of dollars to [Rod] Blagojevich’s [gubernatorial] campaign.”

    As far back as May 28, 2004, the Times noted that Kelly had business ties with Rezko, in a “group of more than 80″ Midwestern Panda Express restaurants, a venture headed by Rezko and Andrew Cherng. On February 13, 2005, the Tribune reported:

    “”The Subway sandwich shops and Panda Express Asian restaurants now being installed in the tollway’s seven revamped rest stops are controlled by firms with strong ties to the food-service empire,” of Tony Rezko.”

    Kelly is an investor in Rezko Concessions, Rezko’s portion of the joint venture with Panda Express. The Tribune also explained:

    “”The $83 million oases overhaul is being overseen by Los Angeles-based developer Wilton Partners, whose owner delivered a $50,000 personal check to the Blagojevich campaign just weeks after the governor announced with great fanfare the launch of the work.”

    Not mentioned is the fact that [Jay] Wilton donated $5,000 to Obama on July 16, 2003. Under the Tollway contract, “Exxon/Mobile and Wilton are investing $94 million and will then get to run the businesses at the stops along the tollways,” according to the April 4, 2004 State Journal Register.

    In addition to doling out campaign cash, in January 2004, Wilton bankrolled a Blagojevich fundraising trip in California. “Wilton Partners … provided the governor’s entourage with $33,000 worth of transportation and $1,841 for meals and entertainment at the Four Seasons Hotel Los Angeles,” the Register reported. Rezko himself spent nearly $45,000 on transportation, meals, lodging and entertainment, the Tribune noted.

    Documents obtained by the Tribune show the Subway franchises are owned by a company run by Abdelhamid Chaib. Chaib is a director of Rezko Concessions.

    In addition to his ties to Rezko, Chaib donated $10,000 to the Blagojevich campaign fund run by Kelly. “With Kelly as chairman, Blagojevich’s campaign operation has raised more than $37 million in a little over four years,” according to the Tribune.

    But here again, Chaib’s $5,000 donation to Obama on June 30, 2003 is not mentioned. Chaib is a co-schemer in the Board Game case related to fraudulent loans obtained from General Electric Corp and the sale of the Papa John’s pizza restaurants.

    Philip Mesi, the president of Subway Development Corp, gave Obama $2,000 on June 30. He also threw him $10,000 six months later on December 31, 2003, and gave another $1,000 on June 10, 2005.

    In October 2005, news came that the Feds had subpoenaed records from all Tollway vendors with connections to Rezko. And less than 2 weeks before the lot deal was sealed, on December 31, 2005, the Tribune reported that prosecutors had “opened a new avenue” in their investigation of pay-to-play politics in “subpoenaing the tollway authority for information about oases contracts with links to key political insiders.”

    The subpoena sought records related to contracts with Subway, Panda Express and other oases vendors, the Associated Press said, and among the subpoenaed records were contracts with companies tied “to political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, oases Subways owned by Rezko associate Abdelhamid Chaib.”

    In addition to the food service contracts, the Tribune noted, “the subpoena also seeks records involving information about Los Angeles-based developer Wilton Partners.”

    Minority owned business rackets fund Obama

    The uproar over the Rezko’s contracts meant to be awarded to minority owned companies in the set-aside program at O’Hare, also began in January 2005, the same month that Obama and Rezko were bidding on the mansion and lot.

    On January 18, 2005 the Tribune reported, “City officials insist they are taking steps to eliminate wrongdoing in the set-aside program, including imposing a new requirement mandating that firms certified as female- or minority-owned before 2003 to undergo new scrutiny by applying for recertification in 2005.”

    The Tribune quoted Obama stating: “In any program like this, there are going to be people with clout who seek to take advantage of it and, if we don’t scrutinize it carefully and if there is not good, strong independent oversight, then potentially it is subject to abuse.”

    “The objective of affirmative action,” he said, “is to open up doors to people who don’t have opportunity.”

    Two months after Obama made these profound comments, on March 17, 2005, the Sun-Times reported that two restaurants at O’Hare “have been allowed to rake in millions of dollars, even though the Daley administration learned back in 2002 that the company running them was probably a phony minority “front” for Panda Express,” and Tony Rezko.

    A company called, Crucial Inc, won the 10-year contract in 1997, while certified as a minority-owned, with its largest shareholder listed as Jabir Herbert Muhammad, son of the late Nation of Islam founder, Elijah Muhammad.

    With the contract, Crucial’s revenues skyrocketed from under $200,000 each year before opening at O’Hare, to nearly $6 million in 2002, according to published reports. Crucial earned nearly $16 million in its first four years at the airport, the Sun-Times found.

    According to the Times, a compliance officer had inspected Crucial in 2002 and was told by Muhammad that he was not running the operations of the restaurants as required. “Everything is done by Panda Express,” officer Robert Cunniff concluded in a July 31, 2002, report. “Muhammad said that he was used to get Panda in the airport.”

    Crucial “seems to be a front for minority business enterprise status for Panda Express,” Cunniff wrote, noting that Crucial appeared to be operating out of an office for “Rezko Panda Express.”

    When it came to managing Crucial’s office, Muhammad said the work was done by Chaib, a Rezko associate who won a Subway franchise deal at Tollway oases, the Times noted.

    Money pours in from Cook County racket

    In addition to Crucial Inc, another company certified as a minority owned, Crucial Communications, was also found to be a Rezko front company. This firm was chosen as a subcontractor by SBC Communications. SBC won a no-bid $10 million contract in 2003, to handle the pay-phone system at the Cook County jail and other county facilities.

    At the time the $1.3 million contract was awarded to Crucial, SBC was led by “Combine” member, Bill Daley, Mayor Daley’s brother, according to the April 4, 2005 Daily Southtown. Bill is now an Obama advisor and a member of his finance committee.

    The Times found that Cook County was Crucial’s lone customer, and the six employees listed included Rezko’s brother, Aboud Rezko, Jabir Muhammad, Mrs Muhammad, and Bernice Hatchett-Polk, none with expertise in maintaining pay phones.

    On December 31, 2002, Hatchette-Polk, contributed $1,000 to Obama. Aboud Rezko also donated $1,500 that day. Tony Rezko made a donation of $1,500 the same day and Rita also contributed $1,000. African American, Delores Wade, who was at the time listed as CEO on records certifying Crucial as minority owned, also gave Obama $1,500 on December 31.

    Three months later, on March 31, 2003, Hatchette-Polk donated $500 to Obama, Aboud gave $500, and Tony and Rita each made a $500 contribution the same day.

    On June 30, 2003, Wade made another $1,000 contribution and on October 10, 2003, Tony Rezko made a $10,000 donation.

    Under the contract awarded by SBC, Crucial was supposed to be run by Wade. However, on March 26, 2005, the Tribune reported that Wade had died more than a year earlier on January 23, 2004, and Muhammad had been too ill to run the company for three years.

    “In their recertification documents in September 2004, they did not indicate that there was any change in the ownership or management,” a Cook County spokeswoman told the Daily Southtown.

    But on May 5, 2005, the Times reported that the woman who notarized Crucial’s latest recertification for minority-owned status, Gwendolyn Duncan, was John Stroger’s secretary and was paid $72,000 to be his administrative assistant.

    When county commissioners tried to find out exactly how this racket got set up, Stroger said SBC chose Crucial to be the subcontractor, and the SBC spokesman said SBC chose Crucial from a list of certified minority-owned companies provided by Cook County.

    On March 15, 2005, the Times reported that there were six Rezkos on Cook County payrolls and that Rezko’s development company, Rezmar, had given $1,000 to Mayor Daley’s campaign, and $5,000 to John Daley, a Cook County Commissioner who now serves as Finance Chairman of the Cook County Board.

    The Times also found that in the past, Crucial Communications, Crucial Inc, and the Crucial Group, a company owned by Orlando Jones, were all listed with addresses at the same building as Rezko‘s businesses.

    However, not to be deterred by exposure of pay-to-play schemes in the Chicago media, the next month, John Stroger selected Rezko as one of the honorary chairs of his campaign fund. He defended Rezko as a “hard-working, legitimate businessman” who had supported his political efforts for years, in the April 8, 2005 Tribune.

    “As far as I’m concerned,” Stroger said, “he’s been a super supporter and he’s never done anything that I thought was improper, that seemed improper.”

    Stroger died in January 2008, and like his godson and former chief of staff, Orlando Jones, who committed suicide in September 2007, as news came of his pending indictment, escaped any direct scrutiny of his participation in the schemes uncovered by Board Games.

    However, Jabir Muhammad is very ill but still alive, and he apparently regrets the day he got involved with the “legitimate businessman,” and allowed Crucial companies to be used as fronts for the Combine’s fortune-making for more reasons then one.

    Muhammad and his wife have filed a lawsuit against Rezko and Dr Paul Ray, who is also the chief urologist at Cook County’s Stroger Hospital, alleging they bilked the couple out of their home through a land trust. According to a March 23, 2008, Sun-Times report:

    “”The Muhammads say Rezko persuaded them to put the home into a land trust when Jabir Muhammad was extremely ill in the 1990s. They say they had no idea Rezko intended to seize it from them.”

    “Ray now has clear title to Muhammad’s house,” the Times reports. Ray is a co-schemer with Rezko, Ali Ata, and Chaib in the GE and Papa John’s case.

    Combine’s minority owned business racket headed for Washington

    The ““Combine” already has a plan in place to set up the minority-owned business racket in cities all across the country to be run through a new “White House Office of Urban Policy,” detailed in, “Barack Obama’s Plan to Fight Poverty in America.”

    In a speech in April 2007, Obama said: “Less than one percent of the $250 billion in venture capital that’s invested each year goes to minority businesses that are trying to breathe life into our cities.”

    “This has to change,” he stated.

    “When I’m President,” Obama said, “I’’ll make sure that every community has the access to the capital and resources it needs to create a stronger business climate by providing more loans to small businesses and setting up the financial institutions that can help get them started.”

    Under a plan developed by the fine-tuners of the Chicago racket probably for Blagojevich: “Obama will provide additional resources to the federal Community Development Financial Institution Fund, the Small Business Administration and other federal agencies, especially to their local branch offices, to address the needs identified by the Director of Urban Policy.”

    Rezko’s appointment as Director was a given which means if the Combine’s plot to get rid of Patrick Fitzgerald and shut down Operation Board Games had worked, Rezko would have landed an office right smack in the middle of the White House.

    Evelyn Pringle can be contacted at evelyn-pringle@sbcglobal.net.

  29. ah, Edith Piaf.. No Regrets.. That is one of my favorites.

    But the wimpy waffle-eating weasel in the WH is no Edith Piaf, regrets or no regrets.

  30. Meanwhile, conservative Ted Olson, whose wife died in the terrorist attacks, broke with the majority of conservatives to support the project. He said he believes President Obama “was right about this.”

    “I do believe that people of all religions have a right to build edifices or structures, or places of religious worship or study where the community allows them to do it under zoning laws and that sort of thing,” he said on MSNBC. “And that we don’t want to turn an act of hate against us by extremists into an act of intolerance for people of religious faith. And I don’t think it should be a political issue.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014057-503544.html

  31. I understand this is great political fodder, but please, there’s a strip joint in the same vicinity as the proposed community center. There is no legitimate argument against these people building in lower Manhattan.

  32. The Mosque will be a minor issue by the midterms imho. It is a distraction/religious baiting tactic used by Obie as he did when Hillary was ahead in the primaries. Now, however, it is being used to distract from the almost 10% unemployment rate (much higher if you include the under-employed). The republicans can “gin” some points on this, but they must state the obvious, “it’s the economy stupid”
    ————————————–
    I agree they are separate issues, and those supporting Obama are determined try to keep them that way. They argue that he inherited the bad economy from Bush, he struck out a courageous position on the mosque without undermining local authority, and Michele’s trip was a legitimate exercise in good will and only a racist Republican would have any objection. Therefore, the world is to blame but surely not Obama. To separate the issues this way is what pollsters do.

    But the public mind does not make such fine distinctions any more than a jury makes fine distinctions between defendants case and plaintiffs case, at least in my experience. To the public as to the jury there is one case, or here one Obama. And once you get past the historic nature of his presidency, most rational discussion focuses on his character, his judgment and his competence. That is especially true today. We are on the brink of disaster so people are understandably nervous.

    If I am right then the economy plus the mosque issue plus his wife’s little excursion all feed into a larger narrative about Mr. Obama which is that we are on the verge of crisis, he has his own lifeboat scoped out and he is indifferent to the fate of the American People. From a political standpoint, that subliminal impression is deadly. It supplants the older image of him as the messiah, the purveyor of hope, the man who will redeem our political system.

  33. I have heard this strip joint thing before. What has that got to do with this? Another lefty nonsense. The 9/11 victims are not enshrining anything there. It has nothing to do with religion, sanctity, tolerance, and whatever else. The best argument I have heard so far from the 9/11 victims and others in opposition to the Mosque is that it will become a symbol of victory for the 9/11 perpetrators and their many sympathizers and that there is not much question that they will see it that way. And that will be poking the 9/11 victims right in the eye. Yes, there are good Muslims who condemned 9/11 and who are against this mosque. But we also know that there are many more Muslims who celebrated 9/11 and they are still around, think Taliban. Do you want to empower Taliban and give them fodder to do their thing? They certainly will not appreciate your tolerance, they could care less for it because they will hold a gun and kill you to get what they want.

  34. admin
    August 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    JbStonesFan, the Mosque of Doom will be the second most important issue (to the economy) this November. That is why it will not be built. … Once the Mosque is moved, Republicans will celebrate and then move on to the Economy of Doom (yup, that’s our post Mosque of Doom pivot).

    Our pivot? Admin, are you guys Republican?

  35. mj
    August 19th, 2010 at 9:35 am
    I understand this is great political fodder, but please, there’s a strip joint in the same vicinity as the proposed community center. There is no legitimate argument against these people building in lower Manhattan.

    Yeah – but 3,000 people weren’t murdered on 9/11 in the name of a strip joint. 🙁

  36. Lets not delude ourselves into thinking that this issue or any other issue will have much impact on the left or the right. The left says what they have to to maintain their own credibility, but they will ALWAYS support Obama when the chips are down. Their unease with Obama is nothing compared to their fear and contempt for Republicans. Unlike Republicans who were disenchanted with McCain, they will not stay home. As for the right, this is delicious stuff since it gives them bragging rights and fuels their self righteousness, but the needle as already at the red line so it does not move it.

    Thus, the entire game boils down to the independents. Independents right now are running 2 to 1 against Obama and once the impression of him discussed above sinks in it will go to or 3 to one. Absent the vagueries of the electoral college and the continuing attempts by Soros funded organizations to rig the electoral process that equates to a landslide. We must not underestimate his ability to thwart the will of voters. He has done this successfully half a dozen times before.

    From Pat Caddell and others we hear this talk about a revolution within the Democratic Party. During the primary we saw this happen for sure. But now that a new pecking order has been established within the party it becomes more difficult to change back to the way things were. The newbees have the money and the levers of power. This may cause moments of private anguish for certain officials who remember the Democratic Party as it once was, but it will not move them to act against the new establishment. The only thing that may do that is an overwhelming defeat in the November polls which repudiates Obama and what he stands for. But if the only people who pay the price for this are the blue dogs, then it may actually strengthen Obama’s control over the party. Ideological purity is what they are after.

    To me at least, that is the dilemma.

  37. wbboei: “if the only people who pay the price for this are the blue dogs, then it may actually strengthen Obama’s control”

    This is certainly true, but why would the blue dogs be the ones to pay any price at all? They have voted pretty consistently against o’s scams all along.

  38. damning praise…

    Hillary Clinton: The Indispensable Woman

    Eleanor Clift

    Hillary Clinton seems quite content with the job she has, traveling the world to tamp down conflicts together with promoting better global health conditions for women and children in particular. As secretary of state, she’s taken the lead in advocating “soft power” as a necessary and valuable component of American might. That’s why it comes as a bit of a surprise to see Clinton touted as a possible successor to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who plans to step down sometime next year.

    This speculation has surfaced before, along with an alternate scenario that has Clinton trading places with Joe Biden to become vice president.
    Hillary is now the indispensable woman, the competent, charismatic candidate for any job. Put her anywhere and watch her succeed. The fact that people in high places can imagine her as secretary of Defense, a job no woman has ever held, says a lot about her progression in the public eye, and about the acceptance of women in influential positions that were once off limits.

    Of course, almost any rumor can take root in Washington in August, a time when faux news is so much more fun to talk about than the serious challenges facing the country. Still, it is a tribute to Clinton and how powerful – and popular – she has become. She already has a good job, and it’s odd to think she might want to move. The secretary of State has always been considered the premiere Cabinet job, and 18 months into the administration, by all reports, she’s gotten hold of the giant department and is shaping policy.

    Why would she want to start all over again with another humongous bureaucracy? The answer can be found in one word: resources. The State Department is always the poor cousin when it comes to foreign intervention. State is starved for money; the Pentagon is awash in money, and therefore influence. When Clinton travels to Afghanistan, the voice that matters most is not hers, but that of Gates. With one war winding down and another scheduled to begin winding down, the Defense post is at the epicenter of policy and politics.

    Clinton gets glowing reviews in the media as secretary of State, but can cite few concrete accomplishments other than projecting a positive image. That’s not a shortcoming. Projecting American values abroad is what a secretary of State does, says Matt Bennett, a co-founder of Third Way, a centrist Democratic group. A secretary of State must broadcast U.S. values and “have a little bit of steel in the velvet glove, and she’s done that with Israel, and with North Korea. She calibrates very well on the world stage.”

    When Clinton withdrew from the presidential race in June 2008, she cast her defeat in the context of having come further than any woman before, declaring to applause, “Although we weren’t able to shatter this highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it’s got about 18 million cracks in it, and the light is shining through like never before.” As the third woman to be named secretary of State, Clinton didn’t break any barriers, but filling the Defense job would be another big crack in that glass ceiling for Clinton and the 18 million voters who wanted to see her become president.

    The guessing game around Hillary tells us how much has changed since she campaigned unsuccessfully for the Democratic nomination. The pundits said she overstayed her welcome on the campaign trail, and that Bill Clinton was out of control, his wish to see his wife in the White House overwhelming his good sense. “Never, ever underestimate the Clintons,” says Bennett. “We thought his reputation was shot and now he’s back, popular as ever. They’re unbelievably resilient and resourceful.”

    It’s unlikely that anybody is sitting in the White House moving personnel boxes around on a chart, and slotting Hillary into the Defense Department. But when it comes time to name Gates’ replacement, President Obama will want the very best possible person, “and that will require that he at least think about Clinton,” says Bennett. “I can’t imagine a single person would object to her based on her sex, and she would sail through Senate confirmation. I get why she’s being considered.”

    And so does everybody else who’s watched Clinton persevere through the trials and tribulations of a turbulent marriage, a rocky tenure in the White House, to ultimately win a Senate seat and then appointment to the highest diplomatic post in the government. Whatever comes next, she can handle it.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/08/18/hillary-clinton-the-indispensable-woman/

  39. Aug. 18, 2010

    What Others Are Saying | Hillary Clinton’s Asian tour mattered

    Hillary Clinton’s Asian tour mattered

    Hillary Clinton’s recent trip to Asia may one day be seen as the most significant visit to the region by a United States diplomat since Henry Kissinger’s secret mission to Beijing in July 1971.

    Kissinger’s mission triggered a diplomatic revolution. What Clinton did and said during her Asian tour will mark either the end of the era that Kissinger initiated , or the start of a distinct new one.

    Clinton’s tour produced the clearest signals yet that America is unwilling to accept China’s push for regional hegemony. Clinton proposed that the U.S. help establish an international mechanism to mediate the overlapping claims of sovereignty between China, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia that now exist in the South China Sea.

    Forty years ago, the U.S. opening to Mao’s China shocked Japan and all of Asia. Clinton’s visit has done the reverse: It has shocked China — one hopes in a way that moderates its behavior in the region. And, if a shock can be said to be reassuring, this one certainly soothed Asian concerns about America’s enduring commitment to regional security.

    | Yuriko Koike, Daily Star (Beirut)

    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/18/2159793/what-others-are-saying-hillary.html

  40. HOW’S THAT RECOVERY GOING, MR. PRESIDENT?

    noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aBm1l92ibop0

    Jobless Claims in U.S. Rose to Highest Since November (Update2)
    =================

    Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) — Applications for unemployment benefits in the U.S. unexpectedly increased last week to the highest level since November, showing companies are stepping up the pace of firings as the economy slows.

    Initial jobless claims rose by 12,000 to 500,000 in the week ended Aug. 14, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. Claims exceeded all estimates of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News and compared with the median forecast of 478,000. The number of people receiving unemployment insurance fell, while those getting extended benefits increased.

    A cooling economy may be discouraging employers from adding staff and prompting some to step up dismissals, raising the risk consumer spending will weaken more. The Federal Reserve said last week that the recovery would probably be “more modest” than anticipated, reflecting in part a jobless rate that’s restraining incomes.

    “We’re seeing a renewed pickup in layoffs,” said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at Pierpont Securities LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. “If firms aren’t hiring it’s probably because they’re not producing. Demand will slow in the third quarter.”

    Stock-index futures fell after the report, erasing earlier gains. Futures on the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index expiring next month dropped 0.3 percent to 1,083.6 at 8:43 a.m. in New York.

    Estimates of the 42 economists surveyed by Bloomberg ranged from 460,000 to 495,000. The government revised the prior week’s claims figure to 488,000 from a previously reported 484,000. Initial filings last week were the highest since the week ended Nov. 14, 2009.

    Four of Last Five

    There were no special factors influencing last week’s data, a Labor Department spokesman told reporters as the figures were being released. Claims have increased in four of the last five weeks.

    The figures correspond with the week the Labor Department surveys companies to compile the monthly employment data.

    The four-week moving average of claims increased to 482,500 last week, the highest level since the week ended Dec. 5, 2009, from 474,500.

    The number of people continuing to collect unemployment benefits dropped by 13,000 to 4.48 million in the week ended Aug. 7, from 4.49 million the prior week.

    The continuing claims figure does not include those receiving extended benefits under federal programs. The number of Americans who’ve used up traditional benefits and are now collecting emergency and extended payments rose by 309,334 million to 5.59 million in the week ended July 31. That was the week after legislation resuming eligibility went into effect.

    Unemployment Rate

    The unemployment rate among people eligible for benefits, which tends to track the jobless rate, held at 3.5 percent in the week ended Aug. 7.

    Forty states and territories reported an increase in claims that same week, while 13 reported a decrease.

    While companies have boosted payrolls seven straight months, firings have remained elevated as the economic recovery shows signs of slowing. Private firms added 71,000 jobs in July, fewer than economists had forecast, according to government figures released Aug. 6. Unemployment held at 9.5 percent, near a 26-year high of 10.1 percent.

    More than a year after the economy began expanding following the worst recession since the 1930s, employers are slow to hire. That’s limiting consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.

    Shutting Lines

    A Schott AG unit shut one of two production lines at a New Mexico plant that makes solar-power equipment and trimmed the jobs of 30 of the factory’s temporary workers because of slow U.S. sales.

    The line has been “temporarily suspended,” Michael Jacquorie, chief operating officer at Schott Solar’s Albuquerque, New Mexico, operations, said last week in a telephone interview.

    Bob Evans Farms Inc., a restaurant operator and sausage maker, said Aug. 9 it is closing a pork plant in Galva, Illinois, because of shrinking supplies of U.S. hogs. About 70 workers will lose their jobs.

    “Our business model needs to adapt to these tough market conditions,” Mike Townsley, the president of Columbus, Ohio- based Bob Evans Food Products, said in a statement. “We need to manage our assets to stay competitive long term.”

    A survey released yesterday also showed companies expect their costs of health-care benefits to rise 8.9 percent next year, a product of the overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama.

    About 63 percent of businesses plan to make employees pay a higher percentage of their premium costs in 2011, said the Washington-based National Business Group on Health, which surveyed 72 companies that employ more than 3.7 million people. The survey showed 46 percent plan to raise the maximum level of out-of-pocket costs that workers must bear.

  41. lol…really cute story…

    Hillary Clinton gets stuck in Burlington tree
    Burlington, Vermont – August 18, 2010

    The cries of “Hillary! Hillary!” rise from a backyard in Burlington’s Lakewood Estates.

    The pleas could grind Washington, D.C., to a halt: “Hillary Clinton, come down!” Amy Fitch begs.

    Hillary Clinton is in a really tight spot. “It’s been sad,” Fitch sighs. Fitch is not worried about the Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton is her 4-month-old kitten.

    She’s been stuck in a tree in the city’s New North End neighborhood for more than a day. She’s far higher than the tops of nearby houses. “I get very scared when Hillary always gets high climbing a tree — that she’s going to get stuck like she is now,” 8-year-old Simon Fitch says.

    The Fitches’ best guess as to how Hillary Clinton got up the tree is that she was chasing a squirrel and took her fun too far. They’ve tried luring her down with treats and reaching her with ladders. “Nothing’s worked so far,” Amy Fitch says.

    Hillary Clinton’s feline mother is named Sarah Palin. We have no word from Sarah Palin’s family on how they’re coping with this ordeal. Hillary Clinton’s brother, Bill Clinton, didn’t seem too worried about Hillary’s ordeal. But her owners certainly are. They’re hoping someone has some creative ideas to get her down.

    Family friend Jabez Paquette predicts, “I think she’s going to stay inside and not climb up trees any more. She’s just going to run on the ground.”

    The Fitches are crossing their fingers Hillary Clinton’s adventure ends happily, and that their political pussycat comes down to enjoy her 8 remaining lives.

    ***UPDATE***

    Hillary Clinton’s owners told WCAX News that their pet was safely plucked from the tree at 7:00 Wednesday evening. Beth Fuehrer and Patrick Grant from Heritage Tree Care heard about Hillary Clinton’s plight and volunteered to help out. Amy Fitch spent much of the day “tweeting” messages on Twitter and using other websites and message boards. The fact that Hillary Clinton’s story got so many people’s attention is a testament to the power of social networking, and Heritage Tree Care’s assistance is proof of the kindness of Vermont businesses.

    http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=13007752

  42. I went to see a financial planner yesterday for my mother. She had an annuity with AIG which has since been transferred. There was some confusion as to the name of the original company, so I told him Hank Greenberg’s company. He said now there was a brilliant man and if they had left him alone he would have rescued that company because he loved it. I told him that based on what little I knew I agreed, and I new of him from the Marsh McClennan days. He then made a comment about how the democrats brought down Hank, but let those who destroyed Fanny Maye and Frddie Mac get off with impunity and large bonuses. Then he caught himself and said I have to say that here in the office because I cannot say it at home. He said his wife still wears an Obama tee shirt. I told him that should be good and sufficient cause for divorce. He said he could not afford it. This was his third marriage.

  43. wow, were down to strip joints in defending the ground zero mosque. Well, Strippers usually do have 2 big weapons of mass destruction.

  44. wbboei: “if the only people who pay the price for this are the blue dogs, then it may actually strengthen Obama’s control”

    This is certainly true, but why would the blue dogs be the ones to pay any price at all? They have voted pretty consistently against o’s scams all along
    —————————
    A few have, including one of my friends in Texas. But when the smoke cleared most blue dogs ended up voting with Obama on his major pieces of legislation. In that sense, the only difference between a blue dog and rank and a dimocrat is the size of the bribe, i.e Louisana Purchase, Cornhusker kickback on Health Care Deform, etc. And they will pay the price, based on current polling data. Same with financial deform if people really understood the issues at stake.

    My concern is that the blue dogs will fall, the Obama supporters will survive and the revolution we hope for most sincerely will be thwarted for that reason. I do not have a good answer for that. Perhaps someone else does. It may be obvious, but if it is then I am not seeing it.

  45. Epic failure, Obama…….

    Weekly Jobless Claims Post Surprise Jump, Hit 500,000

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/38768328

    New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly climbed to a nine-month high last week, yet another setback to the frail economic recovery.

    Initial claims for state unemployment benefits increased 12,000 to a seasonally adjusted 500,000 in the week ended August 14, the highest since mid-November, the Labor Department said on Thursday.

    Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast claims slipping to 476,000 from the previously reported 484,000 the prior week, which was revised up to 488,000 in Thursday’s report.

    A Labor Department official said there was nothing unusual in the state level data. The data covered the survey week for the government’s closely watched employment report for August, scheduled for release early next month.

    “There are some technical factors out there and the seasonal factors seem to be pushing it up a little bit. But given the trend of claims it looks like the economy ran into a wall in August,” said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at Bank of Tokyo-MitsubishI UFJ in New York.

    U.S. stock index futures turned negative after the report, while Treasury debt prices pared losses. The dollar fell against the yen.

    A 9.5 percent unemployment rate and weak housing market are hobbling the economy’s recovery from its most brutal recession since the Great Depression.

  46. every week we hear the words unemployment and unexpectedly put together, the spin is so fast, it makes linda blair’s exorcist character look like a novice at headspinning.

  47. Belay my last. The key to this thing is not the political candidates or the party officials. It is the money men. If the money men are convinced that Obama is a liability, they will back away from him. That is the target audience.

  48. moon, it cracks me up (in a sad way) that every time the economic numbers are bad, the press describes it as “unexpected” or “surprising”.

    Um, unexpected to WHOM???? It’s not surprising at all to anyone with a brain and powers of observation. But you will see that “unexpectedly” in every damn bad report.

  49. I think somebody needs to voice this side of the argument emerging from the recent dialog. Majority of Americans are rejecting the form of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, and other Islamic republics and that has given rise to social menace and terror like the Taliban and other such groups. They have no tolerance for this kind of Islam where there are no gender rights, no civil rights, no tolerance or respect for other religions and so on. I think that is totally fair and legitimate and shame on the lefties for distorting this message. The people are afraid and don’t trust their politicians to do the right thing. If I were an American Muslim or an Imam I would tout American secular values and lecture those in those countries to reform.

  50. pm317, the problem is that as soon someone objects they get labelled a traitor and get fatwa’d by fundamentalists…..sounds familiar doesnt it, now where have i seen that strategy the last few years, can’t just place it (sarcasm).

  51. every week we hear the words unemployment and unexpectedly put together, the spin is so fast, it makes linda blair’s exorcist character look like a novice at headspinning.
    ———————————————–
    Could this perhaps be why they are burned out at the White House, why Peter Orsag decided to throw in the towel and why Christine Roam’n through the glom’n decided that now would be a fine time to return to the comparative no rigors of academia? Or is it the turning of the tide at Martha’s Vineyard which bids out Messiah to reconnect with nature. The Boston whalers chanty Spanish Ladies speaks eloquently to Obama’s motivations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPj3lSIrVI&feature=related

  52. wbboei, the economic guys know Obamanomics is a crock of horsecrap and are getting out before the real shit comes down the wire.

    Burned out, the teleprompter is burned out because it is spewing out so many lies at breakneck speed thats its collapsed in a heap on the oval office floor.

  53. moononpluto, what if Obama, the philosopher King, had given that kind of tough love message in his Cairo speech? What if he did not stoop low to bow to the Saudi King? What if he had condemned the Taliban instead of saying there is a good Taliban and a bad Taliban? What if…

  54. and the crap continues to flow…..unexpectedly again, its becoming laughable if it was not so serious. Someone needs to ban this fricking word from the press releases.

    US Economy Showing More Signs Recovery Is Slowing

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/38769751

    A key measure of manufacturing in the Mid-Atlantic region fell unexpectedly in July to its lowest level in a year, while an economic forecasting gauge rose less than expected, further signs that the US economic recovery is slowing.

    The Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank said its business activity index fell to minus 7.7 in August from July’s plus 5.1. Any reading below zero indicates a shrinking in the region’s manufacturing.

    The August reading was the lowest and also the first contraction since July 2009, when the economy was recovering from the credit crisis.

    “We see data like this and it kind of confirms the bottom end of the scenario and it’s going to be pretty tough all over right now for commodities, equities,” said Dan Cook, senior market analyst at IG Markets in Chicago.

    Economists had expected a reading of 7.0, based on the results of a Reuters poll, which ranged from minus 6.0 to plus 10.0.

    The Philadelphia Fed survey covers factories in eastern Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey and Delaware and is seen as one of the first monthly indicators of the health of U.S. manufacturing leading up to the national report by the Institute for Supply Management, which is due next on September 1.

    Stocks extended declines following the report, while prices of US Treasury debt—considered a safe-haven financial investment—turned positive and the dollar fell against the yen.

    The report was not the only gloomy data the markets had to contend with on Thursday.

  55. If we each knocked back a strong drink upon hearing “unexpectedly” from the lamestream media, we would all be passed-out on the floor by now, well now i can’t wait to see this sentence in Nov when “today the house and senate unexpectedly fall to the republicans in a asswhooping landslide handing Obama democrats their ass to them.

    there now, i approve of the use of the word unexpectedly in that sentence.

  56. moononpluto, that was a list of “what-ifs” for the lefty liberals who thought they could dupe the rest of the world and especially the Muslim world into thinking how great America is for having elected this faux Muslim with a Muslim name and Muslim ancestry. You know they congratulate themselves on their clever little trick everyday.

  57. wbboei, the economic guys know Obamanomics is a crock of horsecrap and are getting out before the real shit comes down the wire.

    Burned out, the teleprompter is burned out because it is spewing out so many lies at breakneck speed thats its collapsed in a heap on the oval office floor
    —————————————–
    Yes. And a moment ago I was looking at this thing through the wrong end of the telescope thinking that the key to this thing is a revolution within the party. Party officials are not leaders they are followers and what they follow is the money. The money men are the key. And what money men want is a economic stability and a consistent return on investment. Yes they think quarter to quarter that is true. And the watchword in their circles is now what did you do for me in 2008 but what have you done for me lately. And the answer from Obama is . . . it is Bush’s fault. To which a money man would say, okay fine, but that is why we put you in there sir, so again my question to you is what have you done for me lately? And that is Obama’s real problem. If they see that he is no longer credible in the eyes of the American People, to the point that he threatens their own futures then they will drop him like a hot potato. If they find he is no longer credible in the eyes of world leaders then ditto. Notice how well Hillary is faring by comparison on both of those fronts. That is the game now, I am convinced of it. It is also why Obama is heading to Martha’s Vineyard, and I am just a guess’n but I would not be terribly surprised if he met up with Soros Lieutenant and investment banker Robert Wolfe (UBC) who he met with and played golf with at the Kennedy funeral. Wolfe you may recall helped plan Obama’s campaign and met with him for that purpose in January 2008. I still say Hillary in 2012 for these reasons.

  58. “the dollar fell against the yen”

    Yikes! Next it will be falling against the CFA Franc! I spent last week in Venice, with stopovers in Frankfurt and Paris on the way home. I immediately noticed that the Euro has already recovered 75% of what it lost two months ago against the dollar. My political friends in Frankfurt and Paris all confirm that Europe is bracing for a double-dip recession, to be triggered by another Wall Street collapse in the coming months. They weathered the first collapse pretty well, but have been saying all along that the first crisis was somehow damped and that another is coming.

    The fall in the Euro was stopped when Germany outlawed naked credit default swaps, which were instrumental in the first crisis. The ensuing rise in the Euro is due to the fact that the Chinese are now buying Euros like crazy. They buy their oil from Iran, which accepts only Euros, and the Chinese are also a big market for investment goods – not just industrial machines, but railways and trains, nuclear plants, airliners, turbines, etc. – and they intend to buy these big items from Europe, not the US, and pay for them directly in Euros (which makes everything cheaper).

  59. The mosque issue is important for the reasons discussed above. But there are two additional developments looming over the horizon which are mega-political and are likely to further erode the standing of Mr. Obama. One is the elections, which will probably result in the loss of the House, which is where impeachment actions are initiated, and where investigations of the administration can be launched by committees. The second is the budget which Obama hid from voters prior to the election which will read like a butchers bill. The economic problems will grow greater and there is always the X factor which will showcase his incompetence yet again. As his poll numbers continue to tank we may find that Marthas Vineyard and Hawaii may become Obama’s semi permanent home. Too cold in Washington in the winter, too much pollen in the air in the spring, too hot and humid in the summer and too crisp in the autumn its understandable. After all, what is a messiah to do?

  60. wbboei: “I still say Hillary in 2012 for these reasons.”

    I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, but still don’t follow your reasoning. I still think o’s ego won’t let him back down in due time for the 2012 primary season, whether or not he’s lost the support of the money men. If the path to the presidency isn’t cleared of this sociopath by about January 2012, I can’t see Hillary risking another presidential run.

  61. Obama has always been a man to run away from a fight if he’s going to lose it, his record shows that, he gets bored easily and i think he’s already way past bored. 2011, yes i mean will be a way different landscape than 2008, it will not be as friendly and there not be as many ready to give him benefit of the doubt, he cant run on fluffy unicorns and bunny fluff, it will be a cold hard record that he cant run from this time. Nowhere to hide this time. He’s not used to that.

  62. mj said:
    I understand this is great political fodder, but please, there’s a strip joint in the same vicinity as the proposed community center.

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    There are some great photos posted by real Manhattanites making fun of this flap, at these links. They show a map of the area and then show what trashy businesses are BETWEEN the WTC site and the Cordoba site. Their comments are great too.

    Dear Rest-of-America: Take This Map, It’s Why You’re Wrong About the “Ground Zero Mosque”
    blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/08/dear_rest-of-am.php

    The Ground Zero Coat
    yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/08/the-ground-zero-coat/

  63. Yes, there are good Muslims who condemned 9/11 and who are against this mosque. But we also know that there are many more Muslims who celebrated 9/11 and they are still around, think Taliban.

    =======================

    What comparative figures do you have to support your claim that “MANY MORE” celebrated 9/11 than condemned it? What is your source for those figures? Do you even know how many Muslims there are in the world? How many of them belong to each major faction? How many withn even the most militant faction, condemned or opposed 9/11?

  64. Turndown, give me a fucking break! I have lived among Muslims for half of my life and I know what I am talking about whereas you, well I am not sure what you are.

  65. If I were an American Muslim or an Imam I would tout American secular values and lecture those in those countries to reform.

    ====================

    That’s sort of what Hillary’s State Department has sent Raul, the Cordoba promoter, to the Mideast to do.

  66. the problem is that as soon someone objects they get labelled a traitor and get fatwa’d by fundamentalists….

    ====================

    Yes, there are probably a lot more moderate Muslims than dare to speak out. Except perhaps by donating to a moderate peacemaker like Raul and his Cordoba project.

  67. I personally think that there are so many factors going on right now that will play into the 2012 election that no one really knows what the situation will be as we get closer to that time. I agree with Moonpluto though..2012 isn’t going to be the same political environment as 2008 so “hope and change” isn’t likely to work a second time. Things are getting economically worse here in the US and Obama now has a controversial record he has to defend. Even some of my staunchest Obamabot friends have become so disgusted with him I genuinely doubt they will vote for him a second time..they will vote for the Green Party or something…

    Many here don’t think Hillary could challenge in a primary or at the convention but sometimes in history there are moments when things are just in the right place. Just because Franklin Pierce was the only successfully challenged president from within his own party doesn’t mean it can’t ever happen again in American history although I agree this is still a longshot. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but I think these are out of the ordinary times and that might make conventional political thinking less valid right now. That’s why I don’t think Hillary challenging OBama can be entirely dismissed.

    One thing I know for sure…it’s going to be interesting to see how this all actually plays out and I’m sure there will be some surprises before 2012…

  68. Nearly Half of United States Considering Arizona-Style Immigration Legislation

    Twenty-two states are now in the process of drafting or seeking to pass legislation similar to Arizona’s law against illegal immigration. This is occurring despite the fact that the Obama administration has filed a lawsuit against the Arizona law and a federal judge has ruled against portions of that law – a ruling that is now being appealed.

    Next month, two Rhode Island state lawmakers, a Democrat and a Republican, will travel to Arizona to speak with Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, local sheriffs, and other officials about how to better craft their own bipartisan immigration bill for Rhode Island, which already has been enforcing some federal immigration laws.

    Meanwhile, 11 Republican state lawmakers from Colorado traveled to Arizona this week to meet with officials there on how to craft legislation for the Mile High state.

    In addition, Alabama House Republicans announced this week that they would seek to “push an illegal immigration bill similar to the recently approved Arizona law.” This law would “create a new criminal trespass statute that allows local law enforcement to arrest illegal immigrants for simply setting foot in Alabama,” said Alabama’s House Minority Leader Mike Hubbard.

    In Florida, proposed legislation against illegal immigration has been retooled to address some concerns raised by a federal judge who blocked the proposed bill, though it would still allow Florida state police to enforce immigration law.

    In all, there are 22 states considering copycat legislation from the Arizona law against illegal immigration, according to the Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee (ALIPAC), a group that advocates for stricter immigration enforcement.

    Arizona’s law mirrors federal law. It requires local law enforcement officers during a lawful stop to determine the immigration status of an individual by asking the person to show identification that residents are already required to carry by law; and it authorizes law enforcement to securely transfer verified illegal aliens to federal custody.

    The law prohibits racial profiling and gives state residents the right to sue local agencies for not complying with the state law.

    In the lawsuit challenging the Arizona law, the Obama administration said the United States should not have a “patchwork” of 50 different immigration laws. In late July, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled against most of the major elements of the Arizona law, halting their implementation. That ruling is now in the appeals process.

    “We do not expand on federal law,” Florida state Rep. William Snyder, the sponsor of the bill in his state, told CNSNews.com. “We do not change penalties. The goal is not to create a new immigration framework at the state level.”

    Snyder, the chairman of the Florida House Criminal Justice Committee, said his staff attorneys have taken the decision by U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton into consideration in re-crafting their bill for the next state legislative session.

    Snyder said the office of state Attorney General Bill McCollum has reviewed the legislation, as have committee attorneys, and they believe it will withstand a potential legal challenge from the Obama administration.

    McCollum, a GOP candidate for governor, supports the legislation. However, Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican-turned-Independent candidate for U.S. Senate, opposes the proposal.

    “We will continue to work with the language,” Snyder said.

    In Rhode Island, a bill that was introduced late in the session last year, and thus never reached a vote, is expected to be reintroduced in the 2011 session. Its two lead co-sponsors hope to have a bipartisan bill that will withstand a legal challenge after they meet with Arizona officials.

    “It exactly mirrors the Arizona law,” Rhode Island state Rep. Peter Palumbo, a Democrat, told CNSNews.com. “We will tweak the bill.”

    Palumbo will be going to Arizona with Rhode Island state Rep. Joseph Trillo, a Republican.

    Their legislation would essentially codify an existing executive order signed in 2008 by Gov. Donald Carcieri, a Republican, mandating immigration checks on all new state workers and ordering state police to assist federal immigration officials.

    This is Carcieri’s final year in office, so Palumbo said it is important to put the force of law behind what has already been Rhode Island policy. State troopers report illegal immigrants they encounter for speeding and other offenses to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office.

    Because of the executive order in 2008, corruption was discovered in the Department of Motor Vehicles, with drivers licenses being sold to illegal aliens, Palumbo said.

    In New Jersey, state Rep. Allison Little McHose, a Republican, introduced a series of proposals that focused primarily on requiring employers to verify the legality of workers, and preventing state benefits from going to illegal aliens.

    “New Jersey continues to be a sanctuary state for illegals because they know they can come to the state and receive many free benefits, like medical care,” McHose said in a statement. “The benefits may be free for those receiving them, but not the rest of the public because these costs are borne by the taxpayers.”

    Other states with proposals that mirror the Arizona law are Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Utah.

    “We are very pleased to announce 22 states are now following Arizona’s lead to pass versions of a law that has the support of 60 percent to 81 percent of Americans according to polls,” said ALIPAC President William Gheen in a statement. “State and federal candidates are rushing to display their support for Arizona’s law and immigration enforcement. We will not stop until all American states are protected from this invasion as mandated by the Constitution of the United States.”

  69. Here are cites from Muslim groups all over the world condemning the attack, from Sept-Dec 2001.

    Since then, support for the attack has risen — because of unfair attacks, verbal and military, against ALL or “most” Muslims.

    google.com/search?q=condemned+WTC+attack&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DWVtTJT6NobksQPIj7y4Cw&ved=0CAkQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:9/1/2001,cd_max:12/31/2001

  70. TurnDownObama, there have been two mosques near ground zero for years and no one is complaining about them. The complaint is about this triumphalist mosque built by those who should not be encouraged. Rauf and his ilk should not be encouraged but opposed.

    The fundamental fact about the Mosque of Doom is that the site of its location was chosen because it was ground zero. The second rationale was that by locating it at ground zero bonds of friendship would be built. But that is all false and fake and only the gullible are buying it.

    As we quoted, from a Muslim (we have quoted many Muslims on this issue), the Mosque of Doom will be seen by the most ugly Islamic fundamentalists as a monument to terror. This will undermine the real moderates and empower the fake moderates such as Rauf.

    Conflating the illegal immigrant debate with legal immigration is dishonest as is conflating opposition to the Mosque of Doom with hatred of Muslims. Islamic fundamentalism should be opposed with vigor and without apology. Political Islam must be opposed too. Religions and perspectives which threaten no one should be left alone and to their own devices.

    As to the strip joints and other such businesses no one is complaining about them other than Bin Laden.

  71. ok, this is a tad strange, just read this on another site can someone verify it.

    Fox News has apparently just announced that Obama has issued a press release stating that he is a practicing Christian, consults with 5 pastors, reads the Bible and prays daily, and has daily devotionals sent to him. The report did not say whether he read the devotionals.

    lol, so he must be a bit frightened that he’s losing the war of words, people just dont believe him anymore.

  72. I’m reading this and feeling quite sick, i mean how could a doctor even contemplate doing this or a judge even considering it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/19/report-saudi-judge-asks-hospital-damage-convicts-spine-paralyzed-man/

    seriously read this, this is why i would never ever set foot in Saudi arabia. I mean WTF.

    Report: Saudi judge asks hospital if it can damage convict’s spine after he paralyzed man

    CAIRO (AP) — A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man’s spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, local newspapers reported on Thursday.

    snip………….

    Those who are sentenced to death are often not informed of the progress of legal proceedings against them or of the date of execution until the morning on which they are taken out and beheaded.

    Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom’s strict interpretation of Islam.

    Amnesty International expressed concerns over the reports and said the rights groups was contacting Saudi authorities for details.

    “We are very concerned and we will appeal to the authorities not to carry out such a punishment,” said Lamri Chirouf, the group’s researcher on Saudi Arabia. Such measures are against international conventions against torture and international standards on human rights.

    Chirouf said this was the first time Amnesty had heard of a punishment involving the damaging of a spinal cord.

    “But it’s hard to follow details of the Saudi justice system. People are sentenced in closed trials with no access to the public and no lawyers,” he said.

    …..

    sick, pure sick.

  73. This is significant.

    82% Say Voters Should Be Required to Show Photo ID (Rasmussen)

    An overwhelming majority of Likely Voters in the United States think all voters in the country should be required to present photo identification in order to vote in U.S. elections. This is a sentiment that spans demographics, as majorities in every demographic agree that photo identification should be required to vote.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2010/82_say_voters_should_be_required_to_show_photo_id

    They have no grounds in which to deny this anymore, it should be implemented in full.

  74. moononpluto
    August 19th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    lol, so he must be a bit frightened that he’s losing the war of words, people just dont believe him anymore.
    __________________________________________

    I do not exaggerate when I say I do not believe a single word that comes out of his mouth.

  75. ‘Report: Saudi judge asks hospital if it can damage convict’s spine after he paralyzed man’

    Yeah, moononpluto, I saw that story and it made my stomach turn. The question is, will they use anaesthesia during the operation?

    Also, Admin, you’re brilliant!! Thank you for your analysis and wealth of info.

  76. Are those who are speciously arguing for the building of the 9/11 Mosque as a First Amendment right (rather than a sensitivity issue) also defending Dr Laura Schlessinger’s (sp) right to free speech on the air waives? The last I heard she was leaving radio. Why isn’t the “Left” defending her right to speak? Is it because they view her speech as not only offensive, but insensitive? If so, then the “Left” is proving to be monumentally hypocritical.

  77. I can tell you first hand that the unemployment numbers are inflated compared to reality. My son and many other students that work during the summer couldn’t find a job. No job, later no unemployment, therefore not on the score sheet. Also, no after school jobs. Maybe Calif. is worse than other states, then again, maybe not.

  78. Jobless claims rise to highest level in 9 months

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Employers appear to be laying off workers again as the economic recovery weakens. The number of people applying for unemployment benefits reached the half-million mark last week for the first time since November.

    It was the third straight week that first-time jobless claims rose. The upward trend suggests the private sector may report a net loss of jobs in August for the first time this year.

    Initial claims rose by 12,000 last week to 500,000, the Labor Department said Thursday.

    Construction firms are letting go of more workers as the housing sector slumps and federal stimulus spending on public works projects winds down. State and local governments are also cutting jobs to close large budget gaps.

  79. Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) on Thursday demanded that the Obama administration surrender the data and algorithms behind its increasingly controversial estimate that most of the oil spilled in the Gulf no longer presents a risk of harm.

    At an unusual recess hearing of his Energy and Environment Subcommittee, Markey said the report, issued with great fanfare by the administration earlier this month but now being challenged by independent scientists, may be lulling emergency responders and the public into complacency.

    “People want to believe that everything is OK and I think this report and the way it is being discussed is giving many people a false sense of confidence regarding the state of the Gulf,” he said.

    Gulf residents in particular, Markey said, “don’t want this to be downplayed or low-balled, which is to some extent what has happened since that was released.”

    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration senior scientist Bill Lehr told Markey the report was compiled as part of the emergency response, and that his agency is only now conducting a scientific peer review to confirm the findings.

    Markey said NOAA “shouldn’t have released” the report if it wasn’t ready to make its data and models public. “First you gave the answer, and now you are going to be showing your work. … and that’s the opposite of the way in which a study of that magnitude would be released,” he said.

    He formally requested supporting documents that would allow independent scientists to assess their conclusion: “Will you release that now?”

    HuffPuff

  80. This is priceless from the Kool-aid queen herself…

    Arianna Huffington: Memo to America’s Middle Class: Obama Is Just Not That Into You

    I get that the progressives, and the activists, and the young people who voted for the first time, and the disillusioned voters who returned to the polls in ’08, feel slighted by the president. You thought you had a special connection with him, but it turns out he’d rather hang out with Larry Summers, flirt with Olympia Snowe, or play war games late into the night with David Petraeus. Face it: he just isn’t that into you. But, in the end, it doesn’t matter where the president’s heart is — it matters what he does. LBJ wasn’t that into the National Voting Rights Act until Martin Luther King and the Selma march pushed him into it. If Obama is going to do the right thing for America’s middle class, it’s going to take Hope 2.0 — the people have to make him do it.

    What are the stages of grief?
    Is she stuck in denial????

  81. “As his poll numbers continue to tank we may find that Marthas Vineyard and Hawaii may become Obama’s semi permanent home.” — wbboei
    —————————————————–
    wbboei, please! The residents of Martha’s Vineyard are not happy about having this nutcase here even for a brief vacation. The only people left on the Vineyard who are interested in him are the summer elites, a few trust-fund babies, and some of the resident AA population – most of the residents are hugely disappointed in him, if not disgusted over his presidency. In the post offices, the markets, the banks, the libraries, the shops, etc. you can hear the disgruntlement every day. He is not wanted here! Honestly, I spent the afternoon doing errands at those places yesterday and everywhere I heard comments that sounded like they bounced off hillaryis44. Many people were reminiscing about Bill Clinton’s visits – his warmth, his accessibility, his intense interest in all of us and how we live, and about the way our little kids love him and how he lets them hang on his arms, cling to his legs, hug him and follow him – not because they’re told to but because they know he likes them and they trust him. The Fraud is cold, self-centred and boring, and everybody knows it. And everyone I talked to – including those who voted for him – now say he’s the worst president we have ever had – a total disaster. So, I don’t think he’d be happy here – he’s only here to meet with wealthy visitors.

  82. trixta, the hypocrisy on the Left is par for the course. Very few, not even Republicans, are arguing that the mosque is not a constitutional RIGHT. Even 60% of R’s agree that it is.

    That wacko pastor Fred Phelps also has a RIGHT to preach his crap at funerals. But that does not mean that we cannot speak against it, and vigorously decry his offensiveness in doing so. Free speech cuts both ways.

    By and large, the Left tells others to STFU a lot more often than the right does, in my experience. And in this, as in many instances, they are deliberately conflating the legislative denial of legal rights with social pressure to change something. The two are not the same. NO ONE that I know is saying the mosque should be outlawed. Only that the builders should be pressured to put it elsewhere. Yet I keep reading on progressive blogs comments about how the nasty bigoted opposers want to disband freedom of religion and make it illegal. NO, they do NOT.

    Funny how the faux- Left has ALWAYS made it their modus operandi to protest, to pressure, to bring the weight of public opinion to bear against PERFECTLY LEGAL things that they find offensive. Good for them. But the minute another group does the same, they have a conniption fit, and say those protestors ought to STFU, and how DARE they not sit quietly and “respect the free speech/religion/political views of others.”

    They make me sick, anymore. The hypocrisy is appalling, and most of them are utterly blind to it. It is not an attempted denial of freedom of religion to say “you have the right to do X, but I still think you are an insensitive pig if you do.” All this squawking about “denying freedom of religion” is the worst kind of hyperbole. But that’s the usual for these people – their sense of self-important moral superiority has no bounds.

  83. This is an article about some of the jurors in the Blago trial. How this person wanted to convince the ‘hold out’ woman Blago was guilty because Blago talked badly of Barry!!!!!!!!!

    [snip]

    John Grover of Joliet described a frustrated jury that couldn’t convince a holdout juror to convict the former governor on the Senate seat charge. Grover said he would have convicted him and pointed to various evidence, from tape recordings to lavish expenditures. Grover tallied the amount Blagojevich spent on fancy ties: $60,000, he said.

    “How do you do that?” he said.

    At one point, Grover said he grew angry with the former governor’s statements on secret FBI recordings played at trial.

    Grover said when he heard the tape of Blagojevich dropping f-bombs with regard to President Obama, he wanted to climb out of the jury box and head straight for the former governor.

    “Telling the president to go ‘f’ himself. Where I come from that doesn’t happen,” Grover said.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/2613462,juror-says-rod-was-lucky-081810.article

  84. moononpluto
    August 19th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    ———–
    moon,

    Must be because a new poll came out where a majority of Americans identified obama as being Muslim.

  85. lil ole grape: It’s surprising that the Vineyard residents are that disenchanted and outspoken. I’ve wondered about the logistics of the first family and all their stuff getting there – particularly because a daughter of mine and her family are currently at Nantucket. I’d not be surprised if Barry commandeered the ferry they are scheduled to take back to the mainland on Sunday.

    Well, I found this article which answers all of my questions save one:
    EDGARTOWN – President Obama, wife Michelle and the girls, Sasha and Malia, will land on Martha’s Vineyard this afternoon to kick off 10 days of fun in the sun, returning to the posh Chilmark farm where they vacationed last year. Air Force One is set to touch down at the Coast Guard Air Station on Cape Cod. The first family will then board a helicopter and fly over to the island. From Martha’s Vineyard Airport they’ll motorcade to Blue Heron Farm, the 30-acre hideaway on Tisbury Great Pond with a 10,000-square-foot, fully renovated farmhouse the Obamas will call home until Aug. 29.
    h t t p://news.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view.bg?articleid=1275715&format=comments

    which tells me everything I’d been wondering except how the motorcade vehicles made it to the Vineyard and why they have to motorcade at all.

    If he does inconvenience my crew, I may never know. Daughter used to be with me on Obama, but now secretly thinks ‘Enough, already.’ Son-in-law (born, raised in UK by the way) is big on Obama. Everything he knows is from the NYTimes. He’s got the talking points down pat.

  86. oops…slight exaggeration above but still a fair number…

    Barack Obama is Muslim, according to nearly one in five Americans surveyed

    Poll held before Ground Zero mosque furore finds 18% of people believe US president is Muslim, not Christian

    Mark Tran
    guardian.co.uk,
    Thursday 19 August 2010

    Almost one in five Americans believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim, according to a new poll, despite his public statements about his Christian faith.

    The survey by the Pew Research Centre found that 18% now say that the US president is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009. Only about one-third of adults (34%) say Obama is a Christian, down sharply from 48% in 2009. Forty three percent say they do not know Obama’s religion.

    The survey was completed in early August, before Obama’s recent comments about the proposed construction of a mosque near the site of the former World Trade Centre, which have landed him in political hot water. The president has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic centre there, but refrained from taking a position on whether or not it should actually be built two blocks from Ground Zero. The issue has become politically charged ahead of congressional races in mid-November, with Republicans accusing Obama of being out touch with mainstream America.

    The Pew Research Centre noted that the belief that Obama is a Muslim has increased most sharply among Republicans, (up 14 points) since 2009, especially conservative Republicans (up 16 points). But the number of independents who say Obama is a Muslim has also increased significantly (up eight points). There has been little change in the number of Democrats who say Obama is a Muslim, but fewer Democrats today say he is a Christian.

    The White House is concerned that beliefs about Obama’s religion are linked to political judgments about him. Those who say he is a Muslim overwhelmingly disapprove of his job performance, while a majority of those who think he is a Christian approve of the job Obama is doing. Those who are unsure about Obama’s religion are about evenly divided in their views of his performance.

    The White House blamed “misinformation campaigns” by the president’s opponents.

    “While the president has been diligent and personally committed to his own Christian faith, there’s certainly folks who are intent on spreading falsehoods about the president and his values and beliefs,” Obama’s faith adviser, Joshua DuBois, told the Washington Post.

    DuBois pointed to six speeches on faith that the president has given in which he talked about his beliefs, but said coverage of Obama’s Christianity has been scant compared with news about the economic crisis, legislative battles and other issues.

    Pew analysts attribute the findings to attacks by his opponents and Obama’s limited attendance at religious services, particularly in contrast with presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton. Andrew Kohut, the Pew Research Centre’s director, said the confusion partly reflected “the intensification of negative views about Obama among his critics”. Alan Cooperman, the Pew Forum’s associate director for research, said that with the public hearing little about Obama’s religion, “maybe there’s more possibility for other people to make suggestions that the president is this or he’s really that or he’s really a Muslim”.

    Obama is the Christian son of a Kenyan, Barack Obama Sr. Obama Sr was raised Muslim.

    Between the ages of six and 10, Obama lived in predominantly Muslim Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather.

    During the election campaign, rightwing commentators such as Rush Limbaugh used his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, in an attempt to portray him as somehow un-American. Rightwingers also spread the false allegation that Obama had attended a madrassa in Indonesia.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/19/americans-believe-barack-obama-muslim

  87. admin

    August 19th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    TurnDownObama,
    _______________________

    Fabulous rebuttal, admin. I admire your steely coolness, while I myself do not yet possess the control for delivering a similar authoritative dismembering response. (It is something I aspire to.ha-) We shall see how long your facts hold.

    For some reason, I see an industrious knave busily googling for statistics and sounding an alarm to similarly minded individuals for assistance. This could be the genesis of something new, maybe, Poli-drama?

  88. barack obama: “But, but I aaaammmm a Christian! Why doesn’t anyone believe me?!!! I pray EVERY day, … 5 times while facing Mecca.” Ooooops.

  89. HillaryforTexas
    August 19th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    ===========================================

    So true.

    I believe that they are so used to getting their way with their tactics, that they can’t stand to lose. They bitch, and bitch, and bitch, and then bitch some more that idiots give in to them because they can’t stand the bitching any more. Well, now it’s our turn.

  90. Mrs. Smith,

    In comparison to Bill Clinton’s noble gesture for his birthday, I wonder what obama asked for.

  91. jbjd is doing a series on NQ on 08 primary. It makes my blood boil just reliving some of those moments.

    Admin, what really happened and why and how? Will we ever know?

  92. HillaryforTexas
    August 19th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    trixta, the hypocrisy on the Left is par for the course. Very few, not even Republicans, are arguing that the mosque is not a constitutional RIGHT. Even 60% of R’s agree that it is.

    That wacko pastor Fred Phelps also has a RIGHT to preach his crap at funerals. But that does not mean that we cannot speak against it, and vigorously decry his offensiveness in doing so. Free speech cuts both ways.

    By and large, the Left tells others to STFU a lot more often than the right does, in my experience. And in this, as in many instances, they are deliberately conflating the legislative denial of legal rights with social pressure to change something. The two are not the same. NO ONE that I know is saying the mosque should be outlawed. Only that the builders should be pressured to put it elsewhere. Yet I keep reading on progressive blogs comments about how the nasty bigoted opposers want to disband freedom of religion and make it illegal. NO, they do NOT.

    Funny how the faux- Left has ALWAYS made it their modus operandi to protest, to pressure, to bring the weight of public opinion to bear against PERFECTLY LEGAL things that they find offensive. Good for them. But the minute another group does the same, they have a conniption fit, and say those protestors ought to STFU, and how DARE they not sit quietly and “respect the free speech/religion/political views of others.”

    They make me sick, anymore. The hypocrisy is appalling, and most of them are utterly blind to it. It is not an attempted denial of freedom of religion to say “you have the right to do X, but I still think you are an insensitive pig if you do.” All this squawking about “denying freedom of religion” is the worst kind of hyperbole. But that’s the usual for these people – their sense of self-important moral superiority has no bounds.
    ___________________________________________

    BRAVO.

  93. I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, but still don’t follow your reasoning. I still think o’s ego won’t let him back down in due time for the 2012 primary season, whether or not he’s lost the support of the money men. If the path to the presidency isn’t cleared of this sociopath by about January 2012, I can’t see Hillary risking another presidential run.
    —————————–
    What I am saying is it will not be up to him, any more than it was up to LBJ to run for a second term.

    But is an additional thought. We know that Soros is a major backer of Mr. Obama. The evidence to that effect is overwhelming. Nevertheless it does not seem to register with the American People. His defenders are likely to say even if your dirty lie is true what difference does it make? He is an American and money people will always have their say. The obvious rebuttal is that he is not really an American, he is a ruthless capitalist, a citizen of the world and a man who seeks to undermine this country, as he has explicitly stated. The problem is you can say that until you are blue in the face and it will not matter a farthing–except to financial people who understand, and so help me god they get it. But the rest of the population says what can I do about it and besides look at the Bushes, etc. It does not light their fire.

    What would light their fire is something else. Talleyrand said treason is a matter of timing. Well in this case it is a matter of nationality. And we are dancing around the edges of it now without realizing what is at the center.

    There is a strong circumstantial case to be made for the proposition that Saudi money was instrumental in installing Mr. Obama. The evidence is as follows: i) his hidden past, ii) the disclosure that a member of the Saudi family wrote a letter to Harvard to get him in, iii) Saudi endowment of three chairs at Harvard, iv) the Saudi sovereign wealth fund which has a trillion dollars, looking to be invested here as elsewhere, which fact was confirmed to me by a former member of the Federal Reserve, iv) the vast sums of laundered money which came in from around the world to support Obama’s campaign, v) Obama’s knee deep bow to the King of Saudi Arabia, vi) the anti American, Anti Israeli, but pro Saudi Arabia policies he is promoting, vii) galvanized by his politically unpopular support for the mosque and a figure who has ties to Saudi Arabia.

    The idea that a foreign government was controlling our elections is toxic. The idea that Obama was and is their candidate is doubly so. But circumstantial evidence alone will not do it. There must be more. And in due course I suspect we will find that there is more. Indeed much more. And it may turn out to be direct evidence. If such evidence is presented then you could knock Obama’s political future over with a feather. Russel Meade tells us why:

    “It is perversion rather than corruption that most troubles Jacksonians: the possibility that the powers of government will be turned from the natural and proper object of supporting the well-being of the majority toward oppressing the majority in the service of an economic or cultural elite—OR WORSE STILL, in the interests of powerful foreigners. Instead of trying, however ineptly, to serve the people, have the politicians turned the government against the people? Are they serving large commercial interests with malicious designs on the common good? Are they either by ineptitude or wickedness serving hostile foreign interests—giving all our industrial markets to the Japanese, or allowing communists to steal our secrets and hand them to the Chinese? Are they fecklessly frittering away huge sums of money on worthless foreign aid programs that transfer billions to corrupt foreign dictators?

    Jacksonians tolerate a certain amount of government perversion, but when it becomes unbearable, they look to a popular hero to restore government to its proper functions. It was in this capacity that Andrew Jackson was elected to the presidency, and the role has since been reprised by any number of politicians on both the local and the national stages. Recent decades have seen Ronald Reagan master the role, and George Wallace, Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura and Pat Buchanan auditioning for it. The Jacksonian hero dares to say what the people feel and defies the entrenched elites. “I welcome their hatred”, said the aristocratic Franklin Roosevelt, in his role of tribune of the people. The hero may make mistakes, but he will command the unswerving loyalty of Jacksonian America so long as his heart is perceived to be in the right place.”

  94. Here is a thread of comments from yesterday on Hillbuzz that I just read. The first comment hits the mark as do the follow up comments. There’s a little fun thrown in, too. Check out the burkinis in the links of the last comment. WARNING: NAKED man in one of the pictures. 🙂

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    susan h Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    They said it is community center where all faiths are welcome. Ha-ha-ha. I thought infidels/those who do not embrace islam are forbidden in mecca. What ritual will NY city kids have to go through if they just want to use the pool?

    You wouldn’t think any NYC construction worker would take this gig, but in this economy that is suffering, who knows how many will be willing to cross the picket line, so to speak, and do it just for the money. If this imam was not trying to be provacative, why schedule 9/11/10 as the day ground is broken at the site, and the opening to be 9/11/11. That is purposely making 9/11 into a celebration and if nothing else, shows intent to hurt and inflame 9/11 families.

    Reply
    JerseyGram Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 1:13 pm
    Bingo! You win the prize today for getting to the heart of the matter. The provocation of naming it the “cordoba” project to begin with and the dates for breaking ground and ribbon cutting is a blinking neon sign. Anyone who can’t see it is either a brain washed boob or a community organizer.

    Reply
    JerseyGram Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    PS – were they going to let girls and boys swim together? Men and women? How does one wear a burka over a bathing suit? Would they stop youngsters on their way in to the “community center” and screen their sack lunches to make sure there’s no pork?

    Reply
    Aussie Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    They wear a burkini

    JerseyGram Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    LOL!!!

    Solaratov Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    The Burkini~~~

    You’ll note the male swimmer has no restrictions:

    And, shades of Baywatch~~~

    Solaratov Says:

    August 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm
    Oops!! I did html instead of img.
    Let’s try again:
    1st pic
    http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc85/Mamba1-0/brk.jpg

    2nd pic
    (baywatch)
    http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc85/Mamba1-0/burkini.jpg

  95. ADMIN: I have a comment in moderation from a couple of minutes ago. It might be because of the two photobucket links that I have in it. I hope that you release my comment because the links are cute. The comment also copies a thread of comments over from the Hillbuzz blog that is about the mosque of DOOM in NYC.

    Thanks in advance.

  96. wbb said:

    “What I am saying is it will not be up to him, any more than it was up to LBJ to run for a second term.”
    ________________________

    Exactly right. Why would the Dems back someone who can’t win the election for them?

  97. at the rate its going, Bambi may not even make it the full term without quitting, i’m betting on a 2011 declaration of non standing in 2012.

    Nov may just kill him stone dead with the party and the economy and everything else may bring the house down on him.

  98. Well this is big……telling candidates, do not go near him. “He is a walking radioactive disaster” is the quote.

    Dem strategists to candidates: Walk away from Obama

    Reid Wilson reports what most Hot Air readers will see as conventional wisdom, but the news is really the source of the advice. Democratic strategists have concluded that Barack Obama is “a walking radioactive disaster,” whose free-fall threatens a large number Democratic candidates in the midterm elections. Their advice? Dump their wingman, because as it turns out, he’s less popular than the man he’s been demonizing in the districts where it counts:

    The advice from Democratic consultants and strategists is almost unanimous: Run away from the president, and fast. A prominent Democratic pollster is circulating a survey that shows George W. Bush is 6 points more popular than President Obama in “Frontline” districts — seats held by Democrats that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sees as most vulnerable to Republican takeover. That Bush is more popular than Obama in Democratic-held seats is cause for outright fear. …

    “He is a walking radioactive disaster,” one senior Democratic operative said of the president. But any effort to seriously distance oneself from Obama is dangerous for an incumbent; go too hard against the president and voters think the candidate is faking it.

    That will be a problem for Democrats who rode Obama’s coattails to victory in 2008. All of them embraced Obama, and all of them benefited from his “hope and change” campaign that in retrospect looks a lot more reactionary than substantive. In order to distance themselves now, they’ll have to rely on a large-scale outbreak of collective amnesia.

    Candidates will also have to carefully and slowly extricate themselves from that embrace. How to do that? Wilson reports that strategists are offering vanilla advice: talk about yourself, talk about your opponent, and talk about local politics. The more nationalized the election becomes, the more difficulty Democrats will have in separating themselves from Obama (and Nancy Pelosi as well). That will prove difficult in an election cycle where the top issues for voters are the national economy, joblessness, and the budget deficit. It will also mean eschewing the single legislative accomplishment Democrats can claim, ObamaCare, but that’s not much of a sacrifice, since ObamaCare is so unpopular that six out of ten voters want it repealed.

    In other words, take the advice of the Ventures — walk, don’t run. With 75 days left for the midterm elections, it seems doubtful that Democrats have enough time to build their campaigns around attack ads and pork, but that will probably be their strategy. Unfortunately, Republicans will continue to remind voters of the importance of the midterms on the national level, and in this cycle, that’s almost certainly going to trump pork.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/19/dem-strategists-to-candidates-walk-away-from-obama/

    too delicious for words.

  99. One further thought. If I am right about Saudi Arabia seeking to influence our elections then their recent investment if FOX would make a lot of sense. Why? Because unlike the other major news outlets FOX is in hot pursuit of Mr. Obama and are likely to uncover evidence of his Saudi connections at some point in the game.

    Therefore they invest in that enterprise to prevent that network from disclosing something which could engender a huge public backlash against them both here and around the world. It is an insurance policy of sorts. And the reason it works is very simple: in the corporate world you think twice before you do something which would be deeply problematic to one of your largest shareholders. Believe me you do. On the other hand, perhaps it was all merely innocent investment, just like the Harvard divestiture of Israeli assets was innocent as well. There may be a virgin in the whorehouse, but it is not a good bet.

  100. Rauf and his ilk should not be encouraged but opposed.

    ———-

    Hillary’s State Dept has a better opinion of him.

  101. turndown says:

    “Hillary’s State Dept has a better opinion of him.”
    __________________________

    Hillary is a diplomat she is not at liberty to voice her own personal opinion. Hillary was appointed to conduct official negotiations and maintain political, economic, and social relations with another country or countries.
    To do so, she would have to remain tactful and skillful in managing delicate situations, handling people and so forth. I wouldn’t read any other tone to her words except that she weighed in for the record.

  102. There may be a virgin in the whorehouse, but it is not a good bet.
    **************

    Funny wbb, had not heard that before

  103. Mrs. Smith
    August 19th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
    wbb said:

    “What I am saying is it will not be up to him, any more than it was up to LBJ to run for a second term.”
    ________________________

    Exactly right. Why would the Dems back someone who can’t win the election for them?
    *************

    Because they don’t care about the American people. Someone else is the God they pray to. Money…from someone, from somewhere.

    Why else would they be voting lock step with the fool? All of them

  104. Moononpluto, who was it that said, “I can see November from my house?”

    Oh, yeah, I may not have been the first, but I have said it over and over and over.

  105. Because they don’t care about the American people.Someone else is the God they pray to. Money…from someone, from somewhere.

    Why else would they be voting lock step with the fool? All of them.
    _____________________

    I know this is going to sound repetitive and you may not want to believe it… But… Soros gifted the Dem Congress to Obama. By doing so, Soros would find little opposition to getting his wishes and dreams legislated without a hitch or so he thought. But the boob stumbled badly with HCR and made up for it by failing brilliantly in Copenhagen and again just recently when Congress benched Cap and Trade.

    Confloyd noted today, Soros cashed out all of his oil stocks. Now why would he need instant liquidity and access to millions? Oh, right- the other party will have their hands out now. The Dems are about to be shown the door in Nov.

  106. Epic failure yet again, Dems trying to reframe Obamacare after its failure to be popular. Its obviously panic stations over the midterms. The Dems are crapping themselves on a number of fronts, its man the lifeboats.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41271.html

    Politico: Dems retreat on health care cost pitch

    Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit, and instead stressing a promise to “improve it.”

    The messaging shift was circulated this afternoon on a conference call and PowerPoint presentation organized by FamiliesUSA — one of the central groups in the push for the initial legislation. The call was led by a staffer for the Herndon Alliance, which includes leading labor groups and other health care allies. It was based on polling from three top Democratic pollsters, John Anzalone, Celinda Lake, and Stan Greenberg

    The confidential presentation, available in full here and provided to POLITICO by a source on the call, suggests that Democrats are acknowledging the failure of their predictions that the health care legislation would grow more popular after its passage, as its benefits became clear and rhetoric cooled. Instead, the presentation is designed to win over a skeptical public, and to defend the legislation — and in particular the individual mandate — from a push for repeal.

    The presentation concedes that groups typically supportive of Democratic causes — people under 40, non-college educated women, and Hispanic voters — have not been won over by the plan. Indeed, it stresses repeatedly, many are unaware that the legislation has passed, an astonishing shortcoming in the White House’s all-out communications effort.

    read on…………….the titanic is sinking fast.

  107. Arabs terrorists preparing for war with Israel

    Hezbollah reportedly builds tunnel system ‘more impressive than Paris underground’ to counter IDF strikes

    Qaeda leader tells followers to prepare for Israel-Iran war, urges pilots to replicate 9/11 attacks in Israel

    Roee Nahmias
    08.19.10

    Hezbollah built an elaborate network of tunnels that will allow its members to fight a future war against Israel without being exposed to Air Force bombardments and IDF surveillance, a Kuwaiti newspaper says.

    According to a report published by the al-Rai newspaper, the tunnel network “is more impressive than the Paris underground,” and is meant to prevent the IDF from gravely hurting Hezbollah by aerial or ground attacks.

    The report also claimed Hezbollah created an underground system of weapon caches, and that additional warehouses were dispersed in different locations above ground, so they are not damaged by IDF attacks, as was the case during the Second Lebanon War.

    Al-Qaeda wants 9/11 in Israel

    Meanwhile, al-Qaeda is preparing its fighters in the Arabian peninsula for the possibility of an Iran-Israel warn, urging Arab pilots to crash into targets in Israel.

    A terror leader in Yemen urged Jihad supporters to exploit a future war between the Jewish State and the Ayatollah regime in order to advance al-Qaeda’s causes, the Daily Beast website reported.

    The deputy chief of al-Qaeda’s arm in Yemen, Saeed al-Shehri, told supporters via an audio message that a war is expected to break out after Israel will strike Tehran’s nuclear facilities, prompting a chain reaction that would lead to an all-out regional war.

    Sheri then calls on Arab Air Force pilots who endorse the cause of Jihad to fly their planes into Israeli targets, replicating the September 11 attacks. He also urged followers with access to top Arab leaders to assassinate them, similarly to the killing of “tyrant Anwar Sadat,” the Egyptian president murdered by Islamic radicals.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3939898,00.html

  108. Thank you Mr. Will…

    Skip the lecture on Israel’s ‘risks for peace’

    By George F. Will
    Thursday, August 19, 2010

    JERUSALEM

    In the intifada that began in 2000, Palestinian terrorism killed more than 1,000 Israelis. As a portion of U.S. population, that would be 42,000, approaching the toll of America’s eight years in Vietnam. During the onslaught, which began 10 Septembers ago, Israeli parents sending two children to a school would put them on separate buses to decrease the chance that neither would return for dinner. Surely most Americans can imagine, even if their tone-deaf leaders cannot, how grating it is when those leaders lecture Israel on the need to take “risks for peace.”

    During Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s July visit to Washington, Barack Obama praised him as “willing to take risks for peace.” There was a time when that meant swapping “land for peace” — Israel sacrificing something tangible and irrecoverable, strategic depth, in exchange for something intangible and perishable, promises of diplomatic normality.

    Strategic depth matters in a nation where almost everyone is or has been a soldier, so society cannot function for long with the nation fully mobilized. Also, before the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel within the borders established by the 1949 armistice was in one place just nine miles wide, a fact that moved George W. Bush to say: In Texas we have driveways that long. Israel exchanged a lot of land to achieve a chilly peace with Egypt, yielding the Sinai, which is almost three times larger than Israel and was 89 percent of the land captured in the process of repelling the 1967 aggression.

    The intifada was launched by the late Yasser Arafat — terrorist and Nobel Peace Prize winner — after the July 2000 Camp David meeting, during which then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to cede control of all of Gaza and more than 90 percent of the West Bank, with small swaps of land to accommodate the growth of Jerusalem suburbs just across the 1949 armistice line.

    Israelis are famously fractious, but the intifada produced among them a consensus that the most any government of theirs could offer without forfeiting domestic support is less than any Palestinian interlocutor would demand. Furthermore, the intifada was part of a pattern. As in 1936 and 1947, talk about partition prompted Arab violence.

    In 1936, when the British administered Palestine, the Peel Commission concluded that there was “an irrepressible conflict” — a phrase coined by an American historian to describe the U.S. Civil War — “between two national communities within the narrow bounds of one small country.” And: “Neither of the two national ideals permits” a combination “in the service of a single state.” The commission recommended “a surgical operation” — partition. What followed was the Arab Revolt of 1936 to 1939.

    On Nov. 29, 1947, the United Nations recommended a partition plan. Israel accepted the recommendation. On Nov. 30, Israel was attacked.

    Palestine has a seemingly limitless capacity for eliciting nonsense from afar, as it did recently when British Prime Minister David Cameron referred to Gaza as a “prison camp.” In a sense it is, but not in the sense Cameron intended. His implication was that Israel is the cruel imprisoner. Gaza’s actual misfortune is to be under the iron fist of Hamas, a terrorist organization.

    In May, a flotilla launched from Turkey approached Gaza in order to provoke a confrontation with Israel, which, like Egypt, administers a blockade to prevent arms from reaching Hamas. The flotilla’s pretense was humanitarian relief for Gaza — where the infant mortality rate is lower and life expectancy is higher than in Turkey.

    Israelis younger than 50 have no memory of their nation within the 1967 borders set by the 1949 armistice that ended the War of Independence. The rest of the world seems to have no memory at all concerning the intersecting histories of Palestine and the Jewish people.

    The creation of Israel did not involve the destruction of a Palestinian state, there having been no such state since the Romans arrived. And if the Jewish percentage of the world’s population were today what it was when the Romans ruled Palestine, there would be 200 million Jews. After a uniquely hazardous passage through two millennia without a homeland, there are 13 million Jews.

    In the 62 years since this homeland was founded on one-sixth of 1 percent of the land of what is carelessly and inaccurately called “the Arab world,” Israelis have never known an hour of real peace. Patronizing American lectures on the reality of risks and the desirableness of peace, which once were merely fatuous, are now obscene.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/18/AR2010081804691.html

  109. GOP outside cash has Dems scrambling…wealthy Dems refusing to fund the party, looks like they know its going to be a bloodbath.

    With less than three months until Election Day, Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned that the independent groups they are counting on for support won’t have the money to counter what they fear will be an unprecedented advertising campaign waged by their Republican counterparts.

    Republicans and their allies have been working for months with single-minded focus on plans to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on ads funded by a combination of existing special interest groups and newly formed political outfits.

    But Democratic operatives trying to raise money for expensive ad campaigns report that the wealthy liberals (and, to some extent, labor unions) who wrote huge checks to independent groups for advertising campaigns in the past three election cycles are sitting on their wallets.

    Democrats attribute the stinginess to a variety of factors, including the lingering recession, the absence of a single unifying enemy such as former President George W. Bush and fatigue among the wealthy donors who wrote big checks during the past two election cycles.

    There’s also a degree of disenchantment with the Obama political operation, which discouraged big-dollar independent activity when then-Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign was shattering fundraising records during the 2008 presidential campaign and has done little to revive it since. In addition, tension between the White House and organized labor, a traditional Democratic ally and source of political cash, has suppressed the totals.

    Read the whole 3 pages, its stunning indictment : http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41272.html#ixzz0x6D08C8b

  110. Mrs. Smith
    August 19th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    #########

    Soro’s is the devil we know, there are others. Politics is for sale in this country,the world. Nothing short of a revolution will change anything IMHO. That being said, people are too fearful of the unknown. Don’t know if we have it within ourselves anymore.

  111. nomobama
    August 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    ***********

    Amazing, he’s naked and she looks like, well I really can’t put it in words, but someone needs to let her know her nipple is showing.

  112. All In: AP, Which Can’t Issue a Stylebook Guidance To Mention Democratic Party Affliation in Stories About Democratic Lawbreaking, Issues An Important New Diktat to Reporters

    —Ace

    Some things they get right on:

    Associated Press Deputy Managing Editor for Standards and Production Tom Kent sent the following note to the staff about covering the New York City mosque story:
    Aug. 19, 2010

    Colleagues,

    Here is some guidance on covering the NYC mosque story, with assists from Chad Roedemeier in the NYC bureau and Terry Hunt in Washington:

    1. We should continue to avoid the phrase “ground zero mosque” or “mosque at ground zero” on all platforms. (We’ve very rarely used this wording, except in slugs, though we sometimes see other news sources using the term.) The site of the proposed Islamic center and mosque is not at ground zero, but two blocks away in a busy commercial area. We should continue to say it’s “near” ground zero, or two blocks away.

    WE WILL CHANGE OUR SLUG ON THIS STORY LATER TODAY from “BC-Ground Zero Mosque” to “BC-NYC Mosque.”

    In short headlines, some ways to refer to the project include:

    _ mosque 2 blocks from WTC site
    _ Muslim (or Islamic) center near WTC site
    _ mosque near ground zero
    _ mosque near WTC site

    We can refer to the project as a mosque, or as a proposed Islamic center that includes a mosque.

    It may be useful in some stories to note that Muslim prayer services have been held since 2009 in the building that the new project will replace. The proposal is to create a new, larger Islamic community center that would include a mosque, a swimming pool, gym, auditorium and other facilities.

    2. Here is a succinct summary of President Obama’s position:

    Obama has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic center in New York as a matter of religious freedom, though he’s also said he won’t take a position on whether they should actually build it.

    For additional background, you’ll find below a Fact Check on the project that moved yesterday.

    Tom

    Notice the new guidance on not saying Obama supports the mosque — now we have to say he doesn’t have an opinion on it. Despite the fact that the NYT reported his aides say he has a STRONG position on it.

    But let’s pretend, on behalf of our New God.

    Sarah Palin expressed her disagreement with the choice.

    Pelosi’s investigation of Harry Reid & Howard Dean & others who oppose Ground Zero Mosque will be enlightening, we’re sure.
    Incidentally, because Tweets are so short, people resort to cutting out spaces and stuff to get their sentences in under 140 characters. The Hill repeated her tweet with those space-saving space deletions — they didn’t, as I just did, put the spaces back in.

    And I think, as usual, that’s to make her look bad. They tweet, so they know people do this all the time, and Tweets look kind of ugly sometimes… but better to publish Palin’s cramped-together-to-save-space tweet to make her look as if she doesn’t understand there are spaces between words.

    By the way: The building in question was in fact party destroyed by the flying landing gear of one of the 9/11 Jet Bombs, so yes, it is in fact Ground Zero.

    Thanks to pam.

    Posted by Ace at 03:10 PM New Comments Thingy

  113. btw- nomobama,

    Thank you for the Soros link.. I appreciate it. Really, I, thought it was a repeat of links I had already read at Pumas Unleashed but to my surprise there was more… much more..and well worth updating my knowledge and memory of the scoundrel.

    Gonzotx:

    highly recommend reading nomobama’s link:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700

    here is a relevant excerpt from the link-

    “Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

    Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head [and ex-President] George Bush, Sr.

    In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton—Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds.

    When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. Republican Senator John McCain was the keynote speaker at the “Soros Convention” (so labelled by the late Robert Novak) in Philadelphia.

    Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA.

    And I musn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the LSM (Lame Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e.g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to.”

  114. You got to love Sarah Palin, she does know when to drop a bomb or two on people…quote of the day

    Sarah Palin on Twitter : Pelosi’s investigation of Harry Reid & Howard Dean & others who oppose Ground Zero Mosque will be enlightening, we’re sure.

  115. Mrs. Smith, I think Soros is taking out his money from oil and reinvesting in Dean the Scream. I have been seeing his muttface all over the net and TV for the last couple of weeks…he seems to slide out of the cracks anytime he can get one in on the “ONE”. I guess old Howie really got screwed by the “ONE”, LOL! I heard on Fox that Dean hates Obama, so from the time in 2004 when Dean thought Obama was the “ONE” to the end of the convention when the two boys fell out of love with each other. I wonder what happened?

    Soro’s has many bribes to pay and I imagine those bribes are getting higher as JohnQ.Public finds out what a gansta Obama really is…just think we might even see old Soro’s get less rich paying for the lies he had formulate to get people to make so Obama could be Potus. Couldn’t happened to a nicer billionaire!

  116. Well she knew Disney had a dress code when took the job, thats tough but she took the job, disney has a defined look, would be the same if i decided to wear a stetson to work at Disney, i’d be told to take that off too.

    Its political correctness gone mad, Disney offered an alternative arrangement. So she was working without it and wanted to wear it for Ramadan, so why not ask when she went for the job and it was not a problem any other time of year.

    Something similar has been happening in England too, muslim shop assistants in major supermarkets on checkout refusing to handle and sell alcohol and pass pork products through the till.

    Its ridiculous, either do the job or leave.

  117. theres more to this story.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1304412/Muslim-Disneyland-employee-told-wear-hijab-work.html

    However she only realized she could wear her hijab to work after studying for her U.S. citizenship exam in June, Qazi said.

    She asked her supervisors if she could wear the scarf and was told they would consult with the corporate office, Qazi said.

    Boudlal didn’t hear anything for two months and was then told she could wear a head scarf, but it had to be designed by Disneyland’s costume department to comply with the Disney look, Qazi said.

    She was fitted for a Disney-supplied head scarf – but Disney never told her when it would be finished.

    …………………..

    She’s pulling a publicity stunt and the CAIR lot is pushing it.

  118. POLITICO: W.H. slammed for rosy Gulf view

    The Obama administration isn’t backing down on the declaration that only 25 percent of spilled oil remains in the Gulf of Mexico in the face of criticism from scientists, lawmakers and environmentalists.

    While the Aug. 4 announcements from the White House briefing room and morning news shows drew positive headlines, they have put officials in the uncomfortable position of defending a view of the spill that some say is far rosier than the picture in the water.

    Administration officials say they are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, when it comes to releasing information from one point in time in the midst of a fluid situation.

    “Folks are seriously now saying we shouldn’t have told people what we knew. We disagree,” one official told POLITICO, … (snip)

    “We’re comfortable with our numbers and as we continue to learn more about what’s happening below the surface and elsewhere, we will build that into our estimate,” Jane Lubchenco, the chief of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said on a hastily-organized call with reporters Thursday.

    “Given the heightened interest in the fate of the BP oil we felt it was appropriate to release that information as soon as possible,” she said.

    Thursday, a top House Democrat said the White House shouldn’t have released the Aug. 4 Oil spill budget that concluded that about 75 percent of the 4.9 million barrels of oil from the Macondo well were either captured or had broken down.

    “You shouldn’t have released it until you knew that it was right because so much is going to depend upon that release,” Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) said at a hearing of his Energy and Commerce subcommittee. “It basically sent the signal in regard to how much of the problem remains.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41280.html

    …………………………………………………

    How do know the Obama WH are lying? They open their mouths.

  119. confloyd- I think we can safely say Dr Dean is out of the picture and so is John Kerry. There is only ONE candidate that has the ability to dominate all others… and I think we are very close to hearing something solid soon.

  120. Gonzotx:

    highly recommend reading nomobama’s link:
    *****

    I know who Soro’s is and what he has done, but there are too many billionaires in the world to think of him and a few others pulling all the strings. I do believe he is a front man. A very rich front man, but a front man no less.

  121. Mrs. Smith
    August 19th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
    Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez

    Muslim employee sues US Disneyland over headscarf ban
    **************

    Just the beginning I am sure.

  122. I re found this @ BP
    **************

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:

    The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

    Here’s how it works:
    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
    United States — Muslim 0.6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%
    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%
    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%
    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%
    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
    ‘Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos.
    There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
    We are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep! Two devout Muslims are in Homeland Security posts.
    Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.
    Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).
    NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant…? Just wondering.
    Devout Muslims in critical Homeland Security positions? Does this make you feel safer? That should make the US ‘ homeland much safer, right? Was it not Devout Muslim Men who flew the planes into those buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?
    Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
    Question: Can a good Muslim be a good American?
    This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
    Theologically – No, Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia
    Religiously – No, Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
    Scripturally – No, Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
    Geographically – No Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
    Socially – No, Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
    Politically – No, Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan,
    Domestically – No, Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
    Intellectually – No, Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
    Philosophically – No, Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
    Spiritually – No, Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.
    The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
    Can a muslim be a good soldier???
    Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!

    Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.

  123. Here’s how it works:
    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
    United States — Muslim 0.6%
    *****************

    maybe…

  124. “The Obama administration isn’t backing down on the declaration that only 25 percent of spilled oil remains in the Gulf of Mexico in the face of criticism from scientists, lawmakers and environmentalists.’
    ********
    Now the scientists from Woods Hole, Mass are calling bullsh*t of the Obama/BP Propaganda Ministry 25% number. Before it was “how can you believe no name researchers from Georgia or Florida????” Despite the latest report from the Woods Hole group, “Baghdad Bob” Thad Allen is still sticking with the 26% number.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/19/gulf.oil.plume/index.html?hpt=T1

  125. lil o grape

    seen this yet

    “Last year, Obama gave you goose bumps, but I don’t think you’re going to see that this year,’’ said Alex McCluskey, co-owner of the Locker Room, who sold more than 4,000 “I vacationed with Obama’’ T-shirts last year. But so far this year, he said, his hot item is T-shirts of former President Bush asking, “Miss me yet?’

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/08/18/vineyard_buzzes_less_for_obamas_second_visit/

  126. Moral myopia at Ground Zero

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, August 20, 2010; A23

    It’s hard to be an Obama sycophant these days. Your hero delivers a Ramadan speech roundly supporting the building of a mosque and Islamic center near Ground Zero in New York. Your heart swells and you’re moved to declare this President Obama’s finest hour, his act of greatest courage.

    Alas, the next day, at a remove of 800 miles, Obama explains that he was only talking about the legality of the thing and not the wisdom — upon which he does not make, and will not make, any judgment.

    You’re left looking like a fool because now Obama has said exactly nothing: No one disputes the right to build; the whole debate is about the propriety, the decency of doing so.

    It takes no courage whatsoever to bask in the applause of a Muslim audience as you promise to stand stoutly for their right to build a mosque, giving the unmistakable impression that you endorse the idea. What takes courage is to then respectfully ask that audience to reflect upon the wisdom of the project and to consider whether the imam’s alleged goal of interfaith understanding might not be better achieved by accepting the New York governor’s offer to help find another site.

    Where the president flagged, however, the liberal intelligentsia stepped in with gusto, penning dozens of pro-mosque articles characterized by a frenzied unanimity, little resort to argument and a singular difficulty dealing with analogies.

    The Atlantic’s Michael Kinsley was typical in arguing that the only possible grounds for opposing the Ground Zero mosque are bigotry or demagoguery. Well then, what about Pope John Paul II’s ordering the closing of the Carmelite convent just outside Auschwitz? (Surely there can be no one more innocent of that crime than those devout nuns.) How does Kinsley explain this remarkable demonstration of sensitivity, this order to pray — but not there? He doesn’t even feign analysis. He simply asserts that the decision is something “I confess that I never did understand.”

    That’s his Q.E.D.? Is he stumped or is he inviting us to choose between his moral authority and that of one of the towering moral figures of the 20th century?

    At least Richard Cohen of The Post tries to grapple with the issue of sanctity and sensitivity. The results, however, are not pretty. He concedes that putting up a Japanese cultural center at Pearl Harbor would be offensive but then dismisses the analogy to Ground Zero because 9/11 was merely “a rogue act, committed by 20 or so crazed samurai.”

    Obtuseness of this magnitude can only be deliberate. These weren’t crazies. They were methodical, focused, steel-nerved operatives.

    Nor were they freelance rogues. They were the leading, and most successful, edge of a worldwide movement of radical Islamists with cells in every continent, with worldwide financial and theological support, with a massive media and propaganda arm, and with an archipelago of local sympathizers, as in northwestern Pakistan, who protect and guard them.

    Why is America fighting Predator wars in Pakistan and Yemen, surveilling thousands of conversations and financial transactions every day, and engaged in military operations against radical Muslims everywhere from the Philippines to Somalia — because of 19 crazies, all of whom died nine years ago?

    Radical Islam is not, by any means, a majority of Islam. But with its financiers, clerics, propagandists, trainers, leaders, operatives and sympathizers — according to a conservative estimate, it commands the allegiance of 7 percent of Muslims, i.e., more than 80 million souls — it is a very powerful strain within Islam. It has changed the course of nations and affected the lives of millions. It is the reason every airport in the West is an armed camp and every land is on constant alert.

    Ground Zero is the site of the most lethal attack of that worldwide movement, which consists entirely of Muslims, acts in the name of Islam and is deeply embedded within the Islamic world. These are regrettable facts, but facts they are. And that is why putting up a monument to Islam in this place is not just insensitive but provocative.

    Just as the people of Japan today would not think of planting their flag at Pearl Harbor, despite the fact that no Japanese under the age of 85 has any possible responsibility for that infamy, representatives of contemporary Islam — the overwhelming majority of whose adherents are equally innocent of the infamy committed on 9/11 in their name — should exercise comparable respect for what even Obama calls hallowed ground and take up the governor’s offer.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/19/AR2010081904769.html

  127. gonzotx
    August 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Gonzo:

    Soros is the evil idea and pitch man. Soros comesup with a business proposal, pitches it to his billionaire friends advising them to invest in his latest scheme to whether or not the latest scheme will negatively impact people is not something within his sphere for consideration..

    His masters seem to be the Rothchilds because of their old family mega wealth in banking and global investments. They monitor his tinkering with Country economies and most likely participate to some extent if the profit structure outweighs the risk. (It seems) They are the gatekeepers, they hold sway in what limits Soros is allowed to pursue. Soros prefers using the World stage further prostituting shaky governments, infiltrating and overwhelming them (CiA like) with dreams of power and riches. Soros convinces them to sell out their own people for the $$$. Soros is basically the “White Collar” mafia. By far much worse than the Cosa Nostra or anything Elliot Ness ever dealt with as the “Untouchables” in Chicago. Soros not only wants to make money he also enjoys hearing about your suffering. He feels a sense of satisfaction and his job well done if his action results in your suffering. Why this evil is allowed to roam the earth as a predatory mercenary, I have no answer.

  128. moononpluto
    August 19th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    What concerns me about fundraising is that obama was able to take advantate of foreign donations which is illegal, but he still did it. This makes me wonder if the Corrupt-ocrats will be farming for foreign donations again.

  129. Now the scientists from Woods Hole, Mass are calling bullsh*t of the Obama/BP Propaganda Ministry 25% number. Before it was “how can you believe no name researchers from Georgia or Florida????” Despite the latest report from the Woods Hole group, “Baghdad Bob” Thad Allen is still sticking with the 26% number.
    ————————————————————–
    Woods Hole is state of the art. I think they are even better than Scripts. The Navy relies heavily on both of them for oceanographic work. Stalin had the same problem as Obama does now. When political necessity and legitimate science collide they turn to junk science to bail out the dictator. Solving the underlying problem well that is secondary or tertiary.

  130. Something similar has been happening in England too, muslim shop assistants in major supermarkets on checkout refusing to handle and sell alcohol and pass pork products through the till.
    Its ridiculous, either do the job or leave.

    —————

    Right. And same with pharmacists who refuse to sell contraceptives — and ER staff who refuse contraceptives to rape victims.

  131. “Hillary’s State Dept has a better opinion of him.”
    __________________________

    Hillary is a diplomat she is not at liberty to voice her own personal opinion. [….] I wouldn’t read any other tone to her words except that she weighed in for the record.

    ===========================

    What, you have a Hillary quote on this? I was just referring to the State Dept having very recently sent Raul on a goodwill mission to the Mideast. You know, actions not words.

  132. why schedule 9/11/10 as the day ground is broken at the site, and the opening to be 9/11/11.

    ==================

    Such claims are not true.

  133. Here’s a figure — 7% — from Krauthammer, a witness hostile to Islam:

    “Radical Islam is not, by any means, a majority of Islam. But with its financiers, clerics, propagandists, trainers, leaders, operatives and sympathizers — according to a conservative estimate, it commands the allegiance of 7 percent of Muslims”

  134. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/opinion/17dalrymple.html?_r=2&ref=park51&pagewanted=all
    [….]
    Most of us are perfectly capable of making distinctions within the Christian world. The fact that someone is a Boston Roman Catholic doesn’t mean he’s in league with Irish Republican Army bomb makers, just as not all Orthodox Christians have ties to Serbian war criminals or Southern Baptists to the murderers of abortion doctors.
    Yet many of our leaders have a tendency to see the Islamic world as a single, terrifying monolith. Had the George W. Bush administration been more aware of the irreconcilable differences between the Salafist jihadists of Al Qaeda and the secular Baathists of Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, the United States might never have blundered into a disastrous war, and instead kept its focus on rebuilding post-Taliban Afghanistan while the hearts and minds of the Afghans were still open to persuasion.

    Feisal Abdul Rauf of the Cordoba Initiative is one of America’s leading thinkers of Sufism, the mystical form of Islam, which in terms of goals and outlook couldn’t be farther from the violent Wahhabism of the jihadists. His videos and sermons preach love, the remembrance of God (or “zikr”) and reconciliation. His slightly New Agey rhetoric makes him sound, for better or worse, like a Muslim Deepak Chopra. But in the eyes of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, he is an infidel-loving, grave-worshiping apostate; they no doubt regard him as a legitimate target for assassination.

    For such moderate, pluralistic Sufi imams are the front line against the most violent forms of Islam. In the most radical parts of the Muslim world, Sufi leaders risk their lives for their tolerant beliefs, every bit as bravely as American troops on the ground in Baghdad and Kabul do. Sufism is the most pluralistic incarnation of Islam — accessible to the learned and the ignorant, the faithful and nonbelievers — and is thus a uniquely valuable bridge between East and West.
    [….]
    the West would do well to view Sufis as natural allies against the extremists. A 2007 study by the RAND Corporation found that Sufis’ open, intellectual interpretation of Islam makes them ideal “partners in the effort to combat Islamist extremism.”

    Sufism is an entirely indigenous, deeply rooted resistance movement against violent Islamic radicalism. Whether it can be harnessed to a political end is not clear. But the least we can do is to encourage the Sufis in our own societies. Men like Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf should be embraced as vital allies, and we should have only contempt for those who, through ignorance or political calculation, attempt to conflate them with the extremists.

  135. Hillary’s State Department….

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2010/0811/Is-ground-zero-mosque-imam-best-choice-for-diplomatic-mission-to-Mideast

    But the State Department says its choice of Mr. Rauf to represent the US in a forthcoming trip to Bahrain, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates, reflects the religious leader’s established record of moderation and his past experience in taking Islamic life in America to foreign audiences.

    “His work on tolerance and religious diversity is well-known and he brings a moderate perspective to foreign audiences on what it’s like to be a practicing Muslim in the United States,” State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley said Tuesday. He added that the department’s public-diplomacy offices “have a long-term relationship with” Rauf – including during the past Bush administration, when the religious leader undertook a similar speaking tour.
    [….]
    The State Department did, however, post on a website intended for foreign audiences New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Aug. 3 speech supportive of the mosque. The publication of the speech, in which Mayor Bloomberg says allowing the mosque would represent religious tolerance, appears to challenge the state department’s claim of disinterest in the matter.

    Defending placement of the transcript of Mr. Bloomberg’s comments on America.gov – and translations of the remarks in Arabic and Farsi – Crowley said “we posted it because we thought it was useful for people overseas to understand the perspectives on this issue.”

    He added that the State Department “certainly support[s] what the mayor was underscoring, which is the history of religious diversity and religious tolerance in his city.”

  136. Obama faking ‘end’ of Iraq war:

    “…The remaining 50,000 troops are viewed as trainers and logistics support to the Iraqi government. But they include special operations units, helicopter gunship crews, and other war fighters who are still going to be engaged in combat but will not be categorized as being in Iraq for that purpose. Iraq has no air force to speak of, and the US will be providing the air support until at least 2018.”

  137. Wouldnt you just love for it to be true, i’d die laughing if it turns out to be true. Dem politicians and hookers, yup thats about right

    Harry funded his campaign from brothel earnings.

    http://yourpoliticsnews.com/2010/08/18/exclusive-pimp-paid-for-first-harry-reid-campaign-former-manager-says-takes-lie-detector-to-prove-claims/

    EXCLUSIVE: Pimp paid for first Harry Reid campaign, former manager says; takes lie detector to prove claims

    LAS VEGAS, Nev. / In what was clearly a calculated political move intended to preempt what he expected would be a torrent of attacks on his own credibility, a former long-time campaign manager for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) conceded that he took a polygraph and planned to go public “sometime soon” with claims that his former boss took illegal cash from a brothel owner to fund his political campaign

  138. Seneca Nation Wants Bloomberg Out Over ‘Cowboy Hat and a Shotgun’ Comment
    Excerpt

    “The Seneca Nation passed a resolution Saturday condemning the comments. They said the mayor was taking “contradictory positions” by targeting the tribes while at the same time expressing support for constitutional protections of those looking to build a controversial Islamic center near Ground Zero.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/19/seneca-nation-wants-bloomberg-cowboy-hat-shotgun-comment/?test=latestnews

  139. Obama has himself to blame for Muslim problem | Washington Examiner

    … In December 2007, with the Iowa caucuses approaching, former Democratic Sen. Bob Kerrey, a Hillary Clinton supporter, said of Obama, “I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There’s a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal.” Kerrey’s remarks caused an uproar — one TV commentator wondered whether they were “poisoning the well” — and Kerrey later apologized. Eighteen months later, when President Obama traveled to Cairo for a long-awaited speech to the Muslim world, the White House was saying, and the press was reporting, the same thing Kerrey had to apologize for. “President Obama is now embracing his Muslim roots,” ABC News’ “Nightline” announced. “President Obama’s speech … was laced with references to the Quran and his Muslim roots,” said USA Today. “Obama touched on his own Muslim roots,” reported the Associated Press.

    Since Smitty the barber first asked the question 25 years ago, Barack Obama has been reluctant to discuss his Muslim roots. Except, of course, when he’s been eager to discuss his Muslim roots. And roots aside, to the outside observer, Obama sometimes doesn’t appear to practice any faith at all. Put it all together, and is it any wonder the public is confused?
    h t t p://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obama-has-himself-to-blame-for-Muslim-problem-101123634.html

  140. Clinton to announce direct Mideast talks to resume

    From Elise Labott, CNN
    August 20, 2010

    Washington (CNN) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is expected to announce Friday that Israel and the Palestinian Authority have agreed to return to direct talks to address core issues, diplomatic sources and a senior U.S. official said.

    The sources said President Barack Obama is expected to invite the parties to talks in Washington in early September. But they cautioned the final details were still being worked out.

    If the talks resume, it would be the first time since peace talks broke down in December 2008 over Israel’s three-week military offensive against Hamas in Gaza.

    At a news briefing Thursday, State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley talked about the work being done to get both parties to restart the talks.

    “We think we’re very, very close, but there’s still work being done and there are details being worked out,” Crowley said.

    “Should the parties come to an agreement to enter into direct negotiations? How will they — when will they happen? Where will they happen? What will be the agenda for the first meeting? There are still things that we’re working through.”

    Saeb Erakat, chief Palestinian negotiator, said the Palestine Liberation Organization’s executive committee will meet about the issue Friday night.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/08/20/israel.palestinian.talks/?hpt=T2

  141. miaow and ouch, ROFLMAO. This is like a real withering drubbing of an article. Obama will be wincing reading this.

    Obama Turns Out To Be, After All, Merely a Community Organizer

    http://www.nysun.com/opinion/obama-turns-out-to-be-after-all-merely/87046/

    WASHINGTON — It is becoming apparent for all to see, that a man who made his name as a community organizer does not have the skills to be President of these United States. Maybe he could develop the requisite skills as a governor. Possibly, he could develop such skills were he to sit in the Senate for a couple of terms.

    Yet there are delicate sensitivities, the ability to listen, to stick by your guns, occasionally to remain reticent. These are the fundamentals of a leader, and President Barack Obama has demonstrated that he lacks all of them, most notably reticence. I now think it is clear even to Official Washington that President Obama is the worst president of modern times. President Jimmy Carter is redeemed.

    The other night at a White House dinner solemnizing the opening of Ramadan he leaped right in to endorse the building a mosque at Ground Zero. He — a man who has shown no religious fervor during his time in the What House — let out a ringing defense of religious liberty and tolerance. Of a sudden, he was at the center of a national controversy that was growing.

    It put me in mind of his inability to defuse the controversy over healthcare. Any sensible president would have relented, as opposition to healthcare grew to the majority position. He would have settled for some sort of compromise, but not the community-organizer-turned-president. He wanted it all. He lunged on and created among the electorate a row over national healthcare that divided the nation, and put some of us in mind of a civil war that continues to rage. What is more, he imperiled his party’s margins in both houses.

    Notwithstanding his apparent personal insouciance toward religion, he made it clear that the mosque should be built. Who cares about the sensibilities of the loved ones of the 3,000 victims? Or for that matter, of the 68% of the American people who according to a CNN poll, oppose the mosque? It took him less than a day to make things worse.

    While on a swing through Florida, he claimed that he was not speaking “on the wisdom” of building the mosque. He was merely commenting on the Constitutional right to build the mosque and to practice one’s religion. A right “that dates back,” the prof allowed, “to our founding. That’s what our country is about.” Blah, blah, blah — the community organizer-turned-lecturer at the University of Chicago could not resist.

    Now he has a red hot national controversy on his hands. It is somewhat like the controversy he created over Professor Henry Louis Gates, when he pronounced the Cambridge police’s reaction to Gates’s truculence “stupid.” Or when Mr. Obama barged into the Arizona immigration pother. He cannot resist showing the world how smart he is, but at what cost? Every Democrat battling a tight race will be called to answer questions about the mosque. It will become an issue even in remote places such as Nevada. There the Senate leader, Harry Reid, fighting for his seat against a Tea Partyer, Sharron Angle, has come out against the President. He announced that it is not a question of right but a question of prudence. He says the mosque should be built elsewhere. How many other Democrats will join him? This could develop into a major rebellion against President Obama’s leadership. It could be the beginning of the end of his presidency.

    President Obama, represents the leadership of a sterile elite. His weird lectures play at the University of Chicago or in the communities he has organized in Chicago but not among the mainstream of the American electorate. He has brought them together and they are against this idiocy. As I said in this space two weeks ago, he represents the leadership of the Ruling Class. It is not the leadership of the consensus of the American people. Only the most extreme voices in this debate are speaking intolerantly about Islam and its right to build a mosque. Most of the American people are siding with the dread Sarah Palin who was quick to say, “Mr. President, should they or should they not build a mosque steps away from where the radicals killed 3,000 people? Please tell us your position. We all know that they have a right to do it, but should they? And no, this isn’t above your pay grade.”

    Yet it is. It is above the pay grade of a community organizer. That is what our president is. Increasingly, it is clear that the Democrats brought down on the country a community organizer as president. Maybe in the future they will consider experience a qualification for the presidency. Possibly the age of charisma is behind us. Possibly Mr. Obama even lacks that dubious quality.

    Mr. Tyrrell, editor in chief of The American Spectator, is a contributing editor of the Sun.

  142. They are starting to turn on him bigtime….the LA times et tu.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/08/obama-mosque-jobs-economy.html

    Obama now blames poor job numbers on congressional inaction. Wait! His party runs Congress

    Just a few minor things to catch up on for the weekend now that the Fundraiser-in-Chief has gone on another vacation (Don’t worry though. White House chef Sam Kass went along, so the first family need not eat ordinary human food.)

    — The Congressional Budget Office says the 2010 federal deficit will be in excess of $1.3 trillion, as in $1,000,000,000,000+. (BTW, the next level we’ll be talking about out of Washington is quadrillion, which has fifteen 0’s.)

    — Despite Vice President Joe Biden’s April boast that administration stimulus spending would spur the economy to add a half-million jobs a month by now, initial unemployment claims jumped a half-million last week, the worst since last November, as national unemployment remains at 9.5% and the economy sheds 131,000 more jobs.

    — But the economy’s going great at the Democratic National Committee, which reports collecting $11.5 million from donors in July on top of the $53.8 million already taken in from various sources this year. The president just devoted three workdays across five states to rake in several more millions for his party.

    — But before leaving for his ninth presidential vacation, 10 days at a secluded estate on Martha’s Vineyard, Obama devoted four minutes in the White House driveway to a special statement on the latest disappointing jobs numbers. (Full text, as usual, can be read on the jump, along with a brief reaction from the Republican National Committee chairman.)

    No questions allowed because the president didn’t want to explain why despite the administration’s announced Recovery Summer Program, the jobs numbers have started going backward again after 19 months of promises and $787 billion in alleged stimulation spending. Because, faced with the uncertainty of the economy and the certainty of new taxes after Nov. 2, employers are holding back on hiring.

    read on………………….

  143. Iraq “Withdrawal”: Building Hillary Clinton an Army

    Written by Thomas R. Eddlem
    Friday, 20 August 2010

    The much ballyhooed withdrawal of “combat troops” from Iraq by the Obama administration has revealed another uncomfortable truth: The U.S. Army soldiers and Marines that are being sent home from Iraq in August (less the 50,000 “non-combat” soldiers that will remain behind) are being replaced by a new U.S. “civilian” contract army under the control of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    Even the liberal New York Times has taken note of this new army, declaring in the lead of an August 19 story that “as the United States military prepares to leave Iraq by the end of 2011, the Obama administration is planning a remarkable civilian effort, buttressed by a small army of contractors, to fill the void.”

    Hillary Clinton’s new army will take over many tasks previously carried out by the U.S. military, the New York Times confirmed:

    One American official said that more than 1,200 specific tasks carried out by the American military in Iraq had been identified to be handed over to the civilians, transferred to the Iraqis or phased out.

    To move around Iraq without United States troops, the State Department plans to acquire 60 mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles, called MRAPs, from the Pentagon; expand its inventory of armored cars to 1,320; and create a mini-air fleet by buying three planes to add to its lone aircraft. Its helicopter fleet, which will be piloted by contractors, will grow to 29 choppers from 17.

    The State Department will have new MRAPs and attack helicopters, but Obama administration officials are still claiming that U.S. “combat” operations have ended. Of course, if U.S. combat operations had ended, there would be no need for the State Department to acquire such heavy-duty combat firepower. The New York Times pointed out that the State Department has never before fielded its own army, and estimated that Hillary Clinton’s new army of private contractors would amount to more than 7,000 persons. This would supplement the army of U.S.-financed mercenary contractors already in Iraq that are estimated to number about 10,000.

    President Obama’s very public announcement on August 18 that he had ended “combat operations” in Iraq provoked a predictable left-wing media response to the Iraqi troop shell game. The strongly Democratic NBC/MSNBC devoted a whole day to the story and had been given exclusive embedding opportunities by the Obama administration prior to the “withdrawal.” Steve Krakauer of Mediaite.com noted: “But this fantastic coverage also showed a cooperation at least on some level between NBC (and MSNBC) and elements in the Obama administration…. Some elements within the military, so by extension the Obama administration, clearly worked with NBC (and MSNBC) to let them have this exclusive.”

    Tim Graham, director of media analysis for the conservative Media Research Center, dryly noted that political nature of NBC’s coverage that took Obama’s announcement at face value. “I would certainly think politics are involved in their ‘flooding the zone’ to suggest that ‘Lookie here, the Obama people doing what they said they were going to do.'”

    Of course, President Obama had made multiple campaign promises in 2007 and 2008 with different timetables for withdrawal from Iraq, and the timeline for withdrawal grew as the presidency neared. Obama most often promised during the campaign to withdraw all combat troops within 16 months of becoming President, which would have been in May 2010, a promise he didn’t keep.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/4365-iraq-withdrawal-building-hillary-clinton-an-army

  144. What has Bloomberg been doing with his cash, broke the law?

    The Secret Campaign of Mayor Mike

    http://www.observer.com/2010/politics/secret-campaign-mayor-mike

    There would be no way of knowing from the outside that this house is at the center of one of the biggest unfolding scandals of Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s 2009 reelection-or that hundreds of thousands of dollars of the mayor’s own money ended up here, in what appears to have been intentional skirting of city and state campaign-finance-disclosure laws.

    The house belongs to John F. Haggerty Jr., an enigmatic Republican political consultant now facing criminal charges for allegedly stealing money from the mayor. Although it is Mr. Haggerty who may do time, the mayor’s actions deserve more scrutiny than they’ve received so far. An extensive review of records and campaign documents by The Observer, as well as interviews with witnesses, indicate that Mr. Bloomberg funneled money to Mr. Haggerty, who claimed to be a “volunteer,” sidestepping the political committee the mayor had promised to use to finance his election campaign. By deploying Mr. Haggerty and an unrelated political party, the the mayor’s team avoided drawing attention to a controversial election day tactic. But even more serious, experts say Bloomberg may have broken campaign finance laws.

    read on………

  145. Wow…ethical administration….not

    Obama makes four appointments, bypassing Senate

    Massachusetts (Reuters) – President Barack Obama on Thursday made four recess job appointments to his administration, including a new U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, postponing the need for Senate approval.

    Recess appointments, which have been made by presidents of both parties, allow a president to temporarily bypass the Senate confirmation process required for senior federal posts by filling vacant positions while lawmakers are on vacation.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67I5Y020100819?type=politicsNews&feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

    ……..

    I don’t approve of recess appts, i did not like it when Bush did it and i don’t like it that Obama is doing it now.

  146. The U.S. Army soldiers and Marines that are being sent home from Iraq in August (less the 50,000 “non-combat” soldiers that will remain behind) are being replaced by a new U.S. “civilian” contract army under the control of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    ===================

    I hope they all show up at the Iowa caucus.

  147. The much ballyhooed withdrawal of “combat troops” from Iraq by the Obama administration has revealed another uncomfortable truth: The U.S. Army soldiers and Marines that are being sent home from Iraq in August (less the 50,000 “non-combat” soldiers that will remain behind) are being replaced by a new U.S. “civilian” contract army under the control of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
    __________________

    I guess they are sending more Xe (former Blackwater) people there. I read early on that these jokers (not a civilian army -mercenaries really – guns for hire) get paid $1,000 a day. That’s a lot of money to pay out to pretend that you are not still carrying on a war.

  148. “By deploying Mr. Haggerty and an unrelated political party, the the mayor’s team avoided drawing attention to a controversial election day tactic. But even more serious, experts say Bloomberg may have broken campaign finance laws.”

    —————–
    And this after he cheated his way into a third term. The guy needs to be tarred and feathered.

  149. “I guess they are sending more Xe (former Blackwater) people there. I read early on that these jokers (not a civilian army -mercenaries really – guns for hire) get paid $1,000 a day. That’s a lot of money to pay out to pretend that you are not still carrying on a war.”

    —————-

    I can’t help thinking that this is a trap for Hillary. If it blows up in obama’s face, who are the dims and the media going to blame?

  150. Civilian contractors (mercenaries) have been in Iraq since day 1. They are also in Afghanistan. In my opinion, they are not a new army, Obama’s new civilian army but guns for hire. He has not had time to get his new civilian army organized in my opinion.

  151. COMEDIC RELIEF FROM EUGENE ROBINSON: “OBAMA’S QUIET WINNING STREAK”

    Yeah, reeeeeeal quiet.

    you gotta give it to Eugene, though, for trying soooo hard to find the silver lining.

    Let me guess, Eugene, despite Obama’s quiet string of successes, his polling is going in the toilet because he is just waaay too modest to blow his own horn? And that the remedy is to perhaps give more speeches??

    So he deserves credit because:

    a) he “got us out of Iraq”, except for all the “non-combat” soldiers and civilians who are still in harm’s way in a country that is unstable as ever.

    b) GM a ringing success story, if you use accounting gimmicks

    c) “Gulf Oil Spill Contained”. Geez, I don’t even know where to start with lampooning THAT one…

    d) Prez successfully wades into Mosque controversy, “for all the right reasons”, except that most of the country disagrees, and more than half the Democrats wished he would have shut the f*** up.

    Oh, and note the sarcastic “walking on water” comment at the very end, intended to make every criticism of Obama into some minor picayune pettiness, rather than valid criticism that this guy residing in the White House is most likely the worst president in U.S. history.

    Enjoy your Friday chuckle:

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/08/20/change_accomplished_106828.html

    August 20, 2010
    Change Accomplished
    =================

    By Eugene Robinson

    WASHINGTON — This is a radical break from journalistic convention, I realize, but today I’d like to give credit where it’s due — specifically, to President Obama. Quiet as it’s kept, he’s on a genuine winning streak.

    It’s hard to remember that the inauguration was just 19 months ago. Expectations of the new president were absurdly high. If Obama had done back flips across the Potomac River, when he reached the other side he’d have faced probing questions about why it was taking him so long to cure cancer, solve the Arab-Israeli conflict and usher in an age of universal peace and prosperity.

    But look at what he’s accomplished in just the past few weeks. Let me highlight four recent headlines:

    Last U.S. Combat Troops Leave Iraq. Obama campaigned as an early and vocal opponent of the Iraq War, calling it a distraction from the more important conflict in Afghanistan. When he took office, there were about 160,000 U.S. troops in Iraq on the heels of George W. Bush’s combat surge. Obama said he would bring our combat forces home and he did — ahead of schedule.

    Before dawn on Thursday, the last U.S. combat brigade crossed the border into Kuwait, effectively ending the military misadventure that Bush named “Operation Iraqi Freedom.” About 50,000 American military personnel remain in the country to train Iraqi government forces, protect U.S. installations and conduct special forces operations. We leave behind a messy, uncertain political situation, which the Iraqis will have to sort out. We also will have to deal with the most disturbing geopolitical consequence of Bush’s elective war: The theocratic dictatorship in Tehran, its ambitions no longer checked by Saddam Hussein, is much closer to its goal of making Iran a nuclear-armed regional superpower.

    But Obama did as well as anyone could have with the situation he inherited. Even his scorched-earth Republican critics, by their silence, are acknowledging that the president has fulfilled his campaign promise to be “just as careful getting out of Iraq as we were reckless getting in.”

    General Motors to Launch Stock Offering. One of the many crises Obama faced when he took office was the imminent collapse of an iconic industrial giant. The demise of General Motors would have wiped out hundreds of thousands of jobs in the company and its supply chain, and, it’s safe to say, would have been a mighty blow to the nation’s psyche.

    Obama ended up pouring $50 billion in the company, acquiring a 61 percent ownership stake. Critics complained about the advent of “Government Motors” and raised the specter of bureaucrats in Washington holding public hearings to redesign the Corvette. But now, after making more than $2 billion in profits so far this year, the restructured company is confident enough to sell stock on Wall Street — and begin repaying the government’s investment.

    The company was saved, workers kept their jobs and taxpayers are going to get their money back. That’s nice work.

    Gulf Oil Spill Contained. When BP’s Deepwater Horizon well went rogue, the Obama administration was criticized for being slow off the mark. Some of the criticism was justified — the initial response did seem unfocused. But the administration managed to turn things around and quiet any talk of “Obama’s Katrina.”

    Obama convinced BP to put up $20 billion as a guarantee that the Gulf Coast residents whose livelihoods were damaged or destroyed by the spill would be compensated. Republican critics who called this a “shakedown” were quickly shushed — by other Republicans. Meanwhile, the administration ramped up its response operation and found effective ways of keeping oil from reaching the shore.

    The administration’s claim that three-quarters of the oil was disposed of — by nature or by human intervention — before it could despoil the environment looks overly optimistic to some researchers. Moreover, serious questions remain about the long-term effects of the chemical dispersants that were used in unprecedented quantity. But a few months ago, who imagined that the president and his family would so soon be able to enjoy a day on the beach and a meal of Gulf seafood?

    And finally: President Wades into Mosque Controversy. Yes, I’m serious. Supporting the mosque in Lower Manhattan didn’t score any political points. But Obama saw his duty to uphold the values of our Constitution and make clear that our fight is against the terrorists, not against Islam itself. Instead of doing what was popular, he did what was right.

    He still hasn’t walked on water, though. What’s wrong with the man?

  152. “He still hasn’t walked on water, though. What’s wrong with the man?”

    ——————-
    lol…I think saving the world and singlehandedly brokering peace in the middle east has to come first.

  153. Since this article is dealing with Islam, and obama, I thought it appropriate to post these videos. This is the face of “moderate” Islam in Egypt, the place where obama gave one of his “teaching moments”. Keep in mind the coptic Christians were in Egypt before Islam conquered North Africa. obama is a fraud.

    I hope the admin posts these series of videos Parts 1 through 3 .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf033rhn5kE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ewDDdv1U0A

  154. ADMIN: Would you please embed the three Youtube video links that I have posted here that are in moderation? My Comment was made at 11:52 am. I am appalled by what I saw in these videos, but I wanted to let others see what I discovered today about the so-called “moderate and secular” Egypt. I would like to contrast what Christians experience in Egypt with what Muslims experience here in the USA. I want the apologists for Islam to see these videos, too. It may help with their delusions.

    Thanks in advance.

  155. • Mrs. Smith
    August 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Soros is the evil idea and pitch man …
    His masters seem to be the Rothchilds because of their old family mega wealth in banking and global investments. They monitor his tinkering with Country economies and most likely participate to some extent if the profit structure outweighs the risk. (It seems) They are the gatekeepers, they hold sway in what limits Soros is allowed to pursue.
    ================================================================
    Mrs. Smith, something has puzzled me for some time. You, wbboei, confloyd etc have repeatedly cited the Rothschilds as the controlling force behind the “evil” Soros yet continue to champion Lynn Forester who is married to Sir Evelyn R. de Rothschild, with whom she shares business interests as well as membership in the Bilderberg group, the subject of much controversy among conspiracy theorists both left and right. How do you resolve this conflict in your thinking? I’m not challenging you. I really want to understand this.

  156. lil ole grape, I myself don’t understnd the connection, but I can tell you that Hillary is of strong moral fortitude and can deal with the devils of the Bilderburgs and not forsake the people who put her in office, whereas Obama has NO morals and seeks only to procure the spoils these devils can buy for him. He routinely will forsake all others for his own sake.
    This is the only difference. Where Lynn fits in with the NWO, I’m not sure. Lynn also likes the free market system with a few safety nets.

  157. What’s up with this new peace iniative in the middle east today….is he trying to change the subject off the mosque of doom!

  158. Drudge headline….fecal material in the waters in Martha’s Vineyard..

    Now was that before or after the President swam in the waters off Martha’s Vineyard?

  159. They really hate Reid and Pelosi, nearly 60% unfavourable for both of them.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_favorability_ratings

    In addition to becoming competitive in his bid for reelection in Nevada, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is now nearly tied with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi when it comes to unpopularity among voters nationwide.

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters across the country finds that 56% have at least a somewhat unfavorable opinion of Reid, while 59% feel the same way about Pelosi.

    The good news for Reid that these figures include 47% with a Very Unfavorable opinion of Pelosi, while just 38% hold a Very Unfavorable opinion of him.

  160. nomobama,

    Some great posts today. Thank you for those links. As disgusting and horrid as they are, it is still very important that we know about this evil.

  161. JanH,

    If the ADMIN posts the one comment that I posted today that is in moderation, you will see something that I never knew about myself, and I doubt many others here know about. It is very sad. I am disgusted with those who think that America should be blind to what goes on to oppressed Christians throughout the Muslim world, and yet act like Muslims are being persecuted here! They don’t know what persecution is.

  162. I smell a new Martha Coakley coming……..

    Blumenthal Losing Ground And Credibility In Connecticut

    On January 7, the day after he entered the US Senate race, Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal (D) proudly stated, “I’ve never taken PAC money, and I have rejected all special interest money.” Now that he has accepted almost half a million dollars from Political Action Committees and special interest groups, his Republican opponent Linda McMahon has released a new ad asking, “How can he fight special interests if they’re paying for his campaign?”

    read on……

    http://www.talkingsides.com/blogs/2010/08/20/blumenthal-losing-ground-and-credibility

  163. Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/20/2010-08-20_we_wont_build_it_hardhats_say_no_way_they_will_work_on_wtc_mosque.html

    A growing number of New York construction workers are vowing not to work on the mosque planned near Ground Zero.

    “It’s a very touchy thing because they want to do this on sacred ground,” said Dave Kaiser, 38, a blaster who is working to rebuild the World Trade Center site.

    “I wouldn’t work there, especially after I found out about what the imam said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11,” Kaiser said.

    The grass-roots movement is gaining momentum on the Internet. One construction worker created the “Hard Hat Pledge” on his blog and asked others to vow not to work on the project if it stays on Park Place.

    “Thousands of people are signing up from all over the country,” said creator Andy Sullivan, a construction worker from Brooklyn. “People who sell glass, steel, lumber, insurance. They are all refusing to do work if they build there.”

    “Hopefully, this will be a tool to get them to move it,” he said. “I got a problem with this ostentatious building looming over Ground Zero.” A planned 13-story community center and mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, Park51 has exploded into a national debate.

    read on…………….

  164. Thing is, living over here, you see the stuff that isnt censored, i get to see some hard stuff and its not pleasant, i can pick up many middle eastern tv channels and years ago they used to televise punishments.

    The attacks on christians by fundamentalists does happen in abundance, you just dont see it reported as much, Govt’s control the agenda. Look up the malatya murders from a few years ago or the murder of Father Andrea Santoro.

    In April 2007, Christians Necati Aydın (35), Uğur Yüksel and German national Tilmann Ekkehart Geske (46) were tied to their chairs, stabbed and tortured at the Zirve Publishing House in the southeastern Anatolian city of Malatya before their throats were slit and thrown from the 3rd floor window like animal carcases. The publishing house they worked for printed Bibles and Christian literature. Nine men have been charged with the murders, and seven of them are in jail.

    Meanwhile, a second indictment that was released recently regarding the murders of the three Christians links suspects in the Ergenekon case to the Malatya murders. One of the main suspects in the Ergenekon case, retired Gen. Veli Küçük, had monitored the activities of missionaries in Turkey. The indictment, which includes conversations between murder suspects Hüseyin Yelki and Günaydın, states that Yelki had apparently convinced Günaydın to commit the murder.

    Its increasing here as it is across the middle east, Christians have to watch their backs constantly.

  165. moon,

    It is a skewered world when international leaders and media are more concerned with feigned attacks on muslims and not with what is going on with Christians.

    The Gods must be laughing themselves hoarse.

  166. JanH and MOP,
    Do you two think war is imminent with Iran? Debkafile is saying that Syria and Iran is on high alert, and all this other peace talks and Israel’s congressional uproar is nothing more than a smokescreen. Russian is suppose to start soon, within hours.

  167. JanH
    August 20th, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    I try to ignore comments on Youtube unless I intend on responding to them. The videos speak to me, the comments mean nothing to me if they are attacking the videos.

  168. moononpluto
    August 20th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    In April 2007, Christians Necati Aydın (35), Uğur Yüksel and German national Tilmann Ekkehart Geske (46) were tied to their chairs, stabbed and tortured at the Zirve Publishing House in the southeastern Anatolian city of Malatya before their throats were slit and thrown from the 3rd floor window like animal carcases.

    I just watched a video about that a few hours ago. The two Turkish Christians were converts. Evidently, the wives of two of the murdered men are still practicing Christians living in Turkey. Brave of them to do so.

  169. confloyd said “Hillary is of strong moral fortitude and can deal with the devils of the Bilderbergs”
    ——————————-
    Actually, Hillary, during the campaign, questioned in re to Bilderberg, said quite clearly: “Bill is a member. I am not.”

  170. confloyd,

    If I had to guesstimate, I would say that the first move will be Hizbollah sparking a war with buddies Iran and Syria enthusiastically along for the ride. They are just waiting for Israel to make one false move, no matter how trivial, to give them what they see as justifiable circumstances to anihilate the State of Israel once and for all.

    At that point Israel and hopefully the U.S.A. would join forces to stop them.

  171. As everyone leaves their jobs, Hillary should stay put

    Posted By David Rothkopf
    Friday, August 20, 2010

    Earlier this week, FP scooped the world with its report that Secretary of Defense Bob Gates was planning on stepping down next year. Admittedly, this is the second worst kept secret in Washington (after Barack Obama’s conversion of the White House bowling alley into a mosque). But it doesn’t take much to get tongues a-wagging in Washington, especially in August when the president is off in Martha’s Vineyard taking windsurfing lessons from John Kerry or doing whatever people do in Martha’s Vineyard. (Drink Pinot Grigio and laugh at America’s working classes?)

    So the question is: Who’s leaving and who’s staying?

    Of course, no one knows for sure, but that doesn’t stop people from speculating. Since Gates’s Pentagon press spokesperson has subsequently clarified the SECDEF’s comments without actually denying that he was going (saying that there was a big window — almost a year — during which he might leave), we can consider Gates in the departure lounge already. It is also widely assumed that Jim Jones, an awkward fit as National Security Advisor from day one, is on his way out. Also, likely to leave from the small group who advised the president most closely on national security matters are Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod. Hillary Clinton is already missing one deputy secretary (Jack Lew, who went off to plug one of the personnel holes on the economic side at OMB). But it was thought, at least until the Lew departure, that Jim Steinberg was also likely to depart. That’s quite a lot of turnover in the very small group of principals and deputies with real national security clout. And it doesn’t even count the departures earlier this year of Director of National Intelligence Admiral Denny Blair and AfPak Commander General Stanley McChrystal (or the CENTCOM opening created when General David Petraeus left that slot to step in for McChrystal).

    But don’t worry about a thing. There’s no truth to the rumor that America’s most famous flight attendant Steven Slater is working the newly installed escape slide at the NSC. This is what happens toward the end of the second year of many administrations. Ok, come to think of it, it’s more extreme than what happened in any recent administration. Clinton did lose his first Secretary of Defense after just a year and Reagan went through national security advisors like professional athletes go through the Kardashian sisters. But if things pan out as currently expected this is considerably more churn than usual.

    But why cry over job openings in a city that craves them more than anything other than headlines or campaign cash? Instead, the summer fun comes from speculating who’s going where. Already articles in Politico and elsewhere have floated names for the Gates job, from Senator Jack Reed to former Senator Chuck Hagel and included for good measure one person who I actually think will someday be secretary of defense, Michelle Flournoy, currently under secretary of defense for policy. I’m not sure now is the time for her, but she is certainly preparing for the job and is widely respected.

    Who replaces Jones? Some say his deputy Tom Donilon. Some say Steinberg. Some say U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. I say, could be, but my bet would be someone else, an outsider with more international stature than any of these three. Interestingly, one bit of buzz is that Gates let slip his own departure plans so the president would know they would be next year and that he could focus later this year on properly replacing Jones. As for Emanuel, the name I’ve heard most is Tom Daschle, which would have been a much better choice in the first place (Obama needs more the skills of a former Senate Majority Leader in the job than he does those of a former House majority whip — a coalition builder, rather than a tough guy.) As for Axelrod, you hear that press secretary Robert Gibbs might replace him. Honestly, they should leave the slot open. With a campaign beginning and a campaign organization likely to form soon, the president would be better off with his top political advisors doing political work in a war room someplace rather than continuing to have them doing political work in the war room in the West Wing.)

    As for the deputies jobs at State, one name that comes up a lot is Wendy Sherman, who is close to Clinton, was a top advisor to Madeleine Albright and who played a central role in delicate North Korean matters during the Clinton years. Another that does not come up that often but should, if talent and experience were the key criteria, is Richard Holbrooke. He has burned many bridges in this town and has detractors but I would argue that there is no individual on the Democratic side of the ledger better equipped to be a true deputy to Secretary Clinton than Holbrooke, if what she is looking for is someone who can also get on a plane and represent and advance the interests of the Untied States at the highest level. Under Secretary Bill Burns, a career diplomat, is another possible choice for one of these jobs, as should be the exceptionally gifted and experienced Under Secretary Bob Hormats. Frankly, yet another way to go which I think would be worth considering would be for Clinton to pick a chief executive of a major international corporation for the job, someone like Pepsi’s Indra Nooyi, for example, who has been deeply involved in a host of international issues and who fill a big void in the administration without a single serious, high-level private sector representative at its top levels.

    One additional twist at State is that top Clinton advisor, policy planning chief Anne Marie Slaughter has reportedly always planned to stay only two years before returning to her job at Princeton where she was Dean of the Woodrow Wilson School … and to where she has been commuting to see her family throughout her tenure.

    But for all the fun of speculation, there is one serious point I’d like to make here. (Because honestly, all the above is based on rumors I’ve heard. Even at this late date in the Obama administration, the president has yet to call me even once for personnel advice.) Of late, and despite the heat, one of the most energetic little enterprises in town has been the constant stream of articles suggesting or even recommending that Hillary Clinton replace Gates or even that she replace Vice President Biden.

    Please, Madame Secretary, ignore these suggestions. Resist them if anyone in a position of power suggests them. You are in a position to do one thing that is vitally important to the country and a second which could be important to you personally.

    The one that is vitally important to the country is continuing the work you have started restoring the centrality of the State Department to U.S. foreign policy. With America’s appetite and resources for military involvements overseas dwindling and with our need to adjust to a new reality in which deftly managing international relations will be vastly more important because there is so much less we can or will undertake alone, State’s role must be restored. Indeed, I would argue that we may be entering a period in which it may be more important than it ever was … precisely because we will not only be more constrained in terms of resources and political will to undertake actions alone, but also because old alliances and international mechanisms may not be suited to new challenges and new creative, foreign policy management will be critically important.

    We are entering what could be — and indeed, what must be — not only a potential golden age for U.S. diplomacy, but one that demands new thinking, new models and imaginative leadership to bring that promise to fruition. (To pick just one very timely example of a new and central role to be played by State, consider the vastly expanded and in some cases unprecedented roles it will be asked to play in Iraq with the “end of the combat mission” there this month.) Not only does Secretary Clinton uniquely possess the stature and the skill sets to fill this role, she has a year and a half of experience getting up to speed and laying the foundations on which to build such a new department. We can ill-afford to have someone else do on the job training and we shouldn’t be tempted to do so.

    Finally, there is the personal side. If she stays where she is, given all the tumult around her and the relationship she has cultivated with the president and with world leaders and given the preceding sense of the changing role of the State Department, she could certainly be the most significant U.S. Secretary of State since James Baker. If, during the next several years, State successfully steps up in its new role and scores a couple of victories — re: advancing peace talks in the Middle East, managing risks in North Korea, shaping a new role with regard to stabilization missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and even Pakistan — she could be the most important secretary of state since Kissinger. It’s very premature to suggest such things right now. Only the groundwork has been laid, many of the challenges are great and there are no great secretaries of state who did not serve with great presidents. So it’s far from certain all will turn out so well. But it’s possible. On the other hand, following in Gates’s footsteps at defense, managing a very difficult draw down in Afghanistan or disappearing into the vice presidency, would not offer the same kind of possibilities — nor do I believe she would be so well equipped to succeed in those jobs at the same level she can at State.

    For the record, however, neither she nor anyone else has asked my advice on this issue, either.

    http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/20/as_everyone_leaves_their_jobs_hillary_should_stay_put

  172. The Comeback Girl

    August 20, 2010
    Jacob Heilbrunn

    Never underestimate Hillary Clinton. The announcement that Middle East peace talks will take place in early September in Washington, DC will solidify her standing with President Obama. Until now, Clinton has enjoyed a reputation as a lonely hawk in the Obama administration, the bad cop who calls for tough measures against foreign adversaries such as Iran and admonishes countries like Vietnam about human rights.

    The talks that are scheduled to take place between Israelis and Palestinians will help change that. Clinton is in a position to become a heroine. Middle East peace has been similar to trying to reach the horizon–always receding as you try to approach it. But conditions have rarely been riper. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a hardliner and an opportunist. He can astonish his critics and earn a reputation as a statesman if he reaches a deal with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who has his own reasons for a peace treaty, which include isolating Hamas.

    Is a deal difficult to envision? Not at all. The terms are pretty clear. It’s more a matter of each side, particularly the Palestinians who have balked in the past (why they didn’t they sign at Wye?), deciding that enough is enough. The proposed timeline of a year is more than enough for an agreement to be signed in a Rose Garden ceremony.

    For Obama and Clinton the stakes are high. Obama is being written off as president by the likes of professor Fouad “Iraq will greet us with flowers” Ajami. In a particularly odious column [3] in the Wall Street Journal about the purported obsolescence of Obama that David Rothkopf dismisses [4] as “arrant nonsense”–in my view, “bilge” might be more like it–Ajami crowed that it’s all over but the shouting. It will be interesting to see if this Ajami prognostication proves as half-baked as his previous ones. As Rothkopf notes, “the Obama presidency, if it is like any of those before, has yet to be defined. Indeed, it is how he deals with unexpected and unanticipated events that are yet to come — or to the unintended consequences of his initial policy moves — that is more likely to define his presidency than anything that has happened thus far.”

    It would be a crowning irony if Clinton, who tried to move heaven and earth to prevent Obama from becoming president, ended up rescuing him.

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/hillary-clintons-comeback-3920

    ——————–

    Given that Hillary has done nothing but rescue this bozo from the very beginning, it is a mute point.

  173. Unfortunately JanH, Iran will be nuclear within hrs. It is now only a matter of time when they weaponize. Sadly, Israel will lose over 1/2 it’s population (maybe even 2/3rd’s) when Iran launches it nuke. Israeli subs will then launch a massive counter strike probably resulting in millions of Iranians dying. All this because Bush and Obama failed to stop these stone aged barbarian from getting a nuke.

  174. Mrs. Smith, something has puzzled me for some time. You, wbboei, confloyd etc have repeatedly cited the Rothschilds as the controlling force behind the “evil” Soros yet continue to champion Lynn Forester who is married to Sir Evelyn R. de Rothschild, with whom she shares business interests as well as membership in the Bilderberg group, the subject of much controversy among conspiracy theorists both left and right. How do you resolve this conflict in your thinking? I’m not challenging you. I really want to understand this.
    ————————-
    I will let Mrs. Smith respond from her end, but here is my take on the matter. The research we did indicted that Soros was most definitely an employee of the Rothschild bank, that Rothschild money set him up in the Quantum Fund and that members of the Rothschild family were part of his investor group–specifically Jacob as well as others who were not part of that family but were connected to it in various ways. We greatly admire Lynn and we think highly of the man she is married to who is part of that family as well based on what little we know about him. The bottom line is it is not the Rothschild family as a whole but a faction within it that has consistently supported Soros and he has reciprocated by making them money through tactic which are similar in some ways to those of the baron who cashed in on the Napoleonic War. But there are interlocking relationships with Wall Street interests as well including familiar names like Rockefeller, people on the Council of Foreign Relations and the neo libs who are the beneficiaries of the new economy and see themselves as citizens of the world. This group is distinctly different from the interests which cluster around the old economy, but both groups are threatened by a rising China and a 1500 mile wall which is harder to penetrate than the one of brick and mortar. They respond to this in different ways obviously. But both of them bleed the middle class, and fail to realize in the process that without a middle class their own lifestyle and fortunes are at risk. And that is their myopia. My banker friend who has lived though a violent revolution in this hemisphere has an interesting observation about that: the upper class and the lower class both believe society’s rules do not apply to them.

  175. jbstonesfan
    August 20th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    ——————–

    Best analysis for sure.

    I am hoping that Hillary really meant it when she spoke about what the U.S. would do if Iran attacked history. I am further hoping that she can stop bozo from screwing things up on his end.

  176. Unfortunately JanH, Iran will be nuclear within hrs. It is now only a matter of time when they weaponize. Sadly, Israel will lose over 1/2 it’s population (maybe even 2/3rd’s) when Iran launches it nuke. Israeli subs will then launch a massive counter strike probably resulting in millions of Iranians dying. All this because Bush and Obama failed to stop these stone aged barbarian from getting a nuke.
    —————————–
    We can applaud Hillary’s announcement that Israel and Palestinian representatives will sit down for discussions about a possible peace agreement. At one time, that was seen as the fulcrum of an enduring peace in the Middle East. But today the center of gravity has shifted to Iran and the Taliban. The response to the growing threat in the Middle East is to build mosques at Ground Zero and to beg Iran to talk to us rather than doing what we should have been doing all along which was to undermine their government. Strategically, our middle east program is a costly counter productive mess which is bleeding the American taxpayers dry. And by the way did you happen to notice that we diverted 250,000 troops to Pakistan to deal with the mega crisis which jeopardizes the existing government and could open the door to a Taliban controlled state with nuclear weapons. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a deep thinker on such matters. She sees no chance that Obama will get a second term but also believes that he will destroy our country before his first term is over. She cited to me a dizzying array of things which are occurring now that portend of a contracting economy and an emerging crisis which the media is hiding from us but is coming soon. That is the nightmare.

  177. I work in NYC right by Ground Zero, and decided to see where this proposed mosque site is. There were pro and con protestors with signgs, but it was quiet, and a handful of cops on hand to keep it that way.

    It literally is a “stone’s throw” from one of the buildings being rebuilt (if not one of the two tall buildings, but one of the smaller buildings in the complex). Catty-corner from the construction site is the Amish deli, and about 50 feet further to the proposed site.

    I understand the idealism in the “pro” camp (religious freedom and toleration, yah baby!). But I believe it is outweighed by the reality in the “con” camp, who find tone deafness in those who are intrasigently pushing ahead with it, and who do not appear to be “encouraging dialog”.

  178. If Soros is really the monster he appears to be and is approaching 90 with a bullet; doesn’t it seem likely that he would do something really big as he left the earth. Eighty something owning Obama and will most likely be dead by 2016. If he has spent his wealth upsetting the status quo, being the conscious of the world– No way he is not planning on going out with a bang. Ego would not allow it. Scary but I think it is only going to get worse.

  179. lil ole grape, I actually knew Hillary wasn’t a member of the Bilderbergs and Bill and Obama are. Most Potus’s are members, so perhaps these are the folks who did not want Hillary as Potus while we the American people did.

    Hillary is a TRUE American and is interested in making sure everyone here in America reaches his/her God-given potential. It just makes me sick that the very person we need at the helm has the “boys club” stopping her.

  180. I actually wonder if perhaps the militant haters expected Americans to beat Moslem neighbors or the right wing press to start blindly attacking after 9/11. IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
    In the days the months the years that followed 9/11 how many hate crimes against individuals from the middle east were reported?

    Remember the story about the medical students who laughed in the restaurant as footage of the Towers falling was replayed? The diners did not beat the shit out of them– they were followed and questioned and then released. Or even in the past year when three young men of middle eastern appearance broke into the Pittsburgh Steelers stadium and repeatedly changed their stories when questioned as to why they were there. No violent reaction.

  181. I’ve had a terrible headache since 6am this morning and nothing seems to knock it out…so I am down in the mouth..LOL!

    I am just getting so depressed as it doesn’t seem there’s a thing that is going to save us from this idiot in chief. Our country seems to be doomed along with the mosque!

  182. Mrs. Smith, something has puzzled me for some time. You, wbboei, confloyd etc have repeatedly cited the Rothschilds as the controlling force behind the “evil” Soros yet continue to champion Lynn Forester who is married to Sir Evelyn R. de Rothschild, with whom she shares business interests as well as membership in the Bilderberg group, the subject of much controversy among conspiracy theorists both left and right. How do you resolve this conflict in your thinking? I’m not challenging you. I really want to understand this.
    ________________________________

    lil ole grape:

    It’s easy to judge using guilt by association rules which would mean Lynn Forrester de Rothschild blindly believes in the ruthless ideology (of some but not all) of the Soros loving Rothschilds. I simply did my due diligence before supporting Lady Lynn and found she holds the same values as Hillary and as Hillary’s true supporters do…the things high up on their priority list. That is.. using the means available to you doing all you can for the public good in any way you can trying to make the world a better place one day at a time… even something as small as helping an elderly person across the street or taking a veteran to the Veteran’s Hospital for a doctor’s apt. It all adds up at the end of the day, all the way up to the issues our SOS is dealing with daily helping entire cultures ME (women) helping them advance as equals in the Middle East.

    Did I mention this time, Sir Evelyn R.deRothschild married up? 😉

    I posted a link to an interview (transcript) between Lady Lynn and (ahem)Campbell Brown. Brown trying to entrap LL as an elitist because of her lifestyle because LL called Obama an elitist and did as I did, voted for McCain. 🙂 The video has been withdrawn and the transcript doesn’t quite capture Brown’s tone and Brown’s reaction to LL’s smackdown. I will try finding another version on Utube and post it here.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/19/bitter-campbell-brown-brought-heel-lynn-forester-de-rothschild

    ps.. single, lft hnded, 2 fngrs typing- pardon the typos.. thnks

  183. blowme, Good things happen to those who wait. I think Fitz is trying to insnare Obama and of coarse when the rethugs take over in November, we shall be waiting for the curtain to drop on Obama and his thugs. The rethugs better be in the business of bringing them to justice or they will be out the next go around.

  184. Regulators seize and shut 4 banks in Chicago, Florida, Virginia

    Community National Bank at Bartow, in Bartow, Fla., with $67.9 million in assets, and

    Independent National Bank of Ocala, Fla., with $156.2 million in assets.

    Imperial Savings and Loan Association of Martinsville, Va., with $9.4 million in assets.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Regulators on Friday shut down a big community bank based in Chicago that has been known for its social activism but racked by financial troubles in recent months. It was the 114th U.S. bank to fail this year.

    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over ShoreBank, with $2.16 billion in assets and $1.54 billion in deposits. Urban Partnership Bank, a new institution comprised of several big Wall Street banks and a private foundation, agreed to assume ShoreBank’s deposits and nearly all its assets.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Regulators-shut-3-banks-in-apf-496139063.html?x=0

  185. I understand the idealism in the “pro” camp (religious freedom and toleration, yah baby!). But I believe it is outweighed by the reality in the “con” camp, who find tone deafness in those who are intrasigently pushing ahead with it, and who do not appear to be “encouraging dialog”.
    ————————————-
    You have more tolerance for them than I do rgb. As far as I am concerned they are the same kind of idiots who stand outside the penitentiary wall as the hangman prepares to perform his appointed task on a mass murderer who has confessed and been duly convicted. Invariably, their signs read save the heinous one and when some Cambal Brown type says I admire your courage and please tell us why you are so committed to this act of humanity they say because even the meanest creature deserves a second chahhhnce. If this were a case of religious freedom then they would show some respect for the innocent people who died there and erect their monument disguised as a mosque somewhere else.

  186. Dear wbboei and Mrs. Smith, thank you for your responses to my question. You have pointed me toward further research into the Rothschild family and the suggestion of a division in the family in regard to their views on both finance and politics. As to the Quantum Fund, that goes back about 40 years when the Rs invested heavily in Soros fund management company, right? Have they distanced themselves from Soros since then?– but I guess all these money interests are so intricately interwoven that there’s no way out even if they did disagree with Soros’ policies…whatever those are – I’m late in reading wbboei on Soros. I have a very weak understanding of these matters, so thanks for your patience.
    wbboei, St Helena is too good for him. He only ‘thinks’ he’s Napoleon. Check out one of these places:
    http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-remote-places-on-planet-earth.php

  187. Jan– Jacob Heilbrunn is a proven plagiarist as you can see below. He appeared on Steve Sailors blog. He appears to be an Obama supporter and the thrust of his article is to boost Hillary while subordinating her to Obama. In fact, what Hillary has managed to achieve as SOS has been in spite of Obama rather than because of him. I think this is a subtle attempt to rehabilitate Obama. And they figure she will settle for a headline like this. In sum, my read on this guy is a tool. What do you think?

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/10941

  188. nomobama
    August 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am
    Since this article is dealing with Islam, and obama, I thought it appropriate to post these videos. This is the face of “moderate” Islam in Egypt, the place where obama gave one of his “teaching moments”. Keep in mind the coptic Christians were in Egypt before Islam conquered North Africa. obama is a fraud.

    I hope the admin posts these series of videos Parts 1 through 3 .

    =============================================================================

    My post made at 11:52am is now out of moderation. If you go upthread and find it, you will be able to see the three videos that are linked with it. They are an eye opener to how many Christians live in Egypt. It’s pitiful.

  189. Blago will not go quietly into the night…he is starting to hum his tune…so people are aware he has a song to sing…if anyone thinks he is going down…he will not go down alone…message is clear…

  190. HOW OUR BELOVED LEADER GOT SUCKER PUNCHED (HINT: TAX ACCOUNTING IS NOT HIS STRONG SUIT–SEE HOW BARACK KISSED THE ASS OF BP, SCREWED THE TAXPAYERS AND BRAGGED ABOUT HOW HE STOOD UP TO BIG BUSINESS–OUR HERO NUMBSKULLED HARVARD TRAINED IDIOT PREZ)

    SHORT & SWEET… BUT, IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF Obama’s SKILL…

    It seems like a miracle that our beloved leader was able to convince
    BP to establish a $20 billion slush (oops, escrow) fund to compensate
    those hurt by the ongoing oil plume in the Gulf of Mexico. After all,
    he had no constitutional power to force them to do so; so had to
    resort to Chicago-style negotiating.

    But, let us take a closer look at the effect on BP’s finances:

    1. BP will establish a $20 billion fund, but will pay only $7 billion
    into it during 2010.

    2. BP is a British corporation, but has a very large operating entity
    in the US but only about 30% of it’s income is derived from the US.

    3. By Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAP), BP must book the
    entire $20 billion expense in the year accrued. Therefore, they will
    book a $20 billion expense in 2010, reducing their US tax liability by
    $7 billion.

    4. Our dear leader also convinced this massive corporation to show
    their concern for the “small people” by withholding dividends to their
    shareholders for the last 3 quarters of 2010. This reduces their
    outward cash flow by about $7.5 billion,including approximately 40% of
    that amount to US citizens. Assuming that the Bush tax cuts will
    survive through 2010, theUS Treasury will lose another $450 million in
    taxes on that amount. We won’t even discuss the effect on the US
    economy.

    Let us put the results into a table easily understood by the small
    people (including me):

    BP Cash Flow:

    o Escrow funding ($7 billion)

    o Dividend saving $7.5 billion

    o Tax savings $7 billion

    o Net favorable cash flow : $7.5 billion

    US Treasury Tax Receipts:

    o BP Corporate income tax ($7.5 billion)

    o BP Shareholders ($0.45 billion)

    o Net unfavorable tax receipts ($7.95 billion)

    I guess we really should expect this. After all, our dear leader is
    the most inexperienced man in ANY room he enters.

    Now tell me …………………Did the enlightened one “Kick Ass”, or did he get
    ”Sucker Punched”?

    This is just one more reason why a ‘community organizer” should NOT be
    negotiating anything dealing with money and finances!

    Bottom line: The $20 Billion BP is putting up will create a $7.5
    Billion positive cash for BP flow this year. But, Obama actually
    “thinks” he really did something special and “kicked ass’ (in his own
    words).

    In reality, BP executives are laughing at him and ‘kicked his ass”.
    Oh well….what’s new with this President anyway??? He is in over his
    head when he starts dealing with “business people”.

  191. Hillary Clinton.Secretary of State
    Posted: August 20, 2010 02:48 PM BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers’ Index .
    Hillary Clinton.Secretary of State
    Posted: August 20, 2010 02:48 PM

    Our Shared Humanity Moves Us to Help Pakistan (from Huffington Poopoo)

    http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1705667530?bctid=590029677001

    Currently more than 20 million Pakistanis have been affected by the worst natural disaster in Pakistan’s history. That is more than the population of New York State. The enormity of this crisis is hard to fathom, the rain continues to fall, and the extent of the devastation is still difficult to gauge.

    Our thoughts and prayers are with those who have lost loved ones, those who have been displaced from their homes, and those left without food or water. The United States has and continues to take swift action to help. But governments cannot be alone in helping the people of Pakistan.

    That is why the United States Government through the Department of State has established the Pakistan Relief Fund for all Americans to join in this tremendous relief, recovery and reconstruction effort.

    The pictures we see coming out of Pakistan are painful images of human suffering at its worst. In surveying the lives and landscape affected by this disaster, we see brothers and sisters; mothers and fathers; daughters and sons. We see 20 million members of the human family in desperate need of help. This is a defining moment – not only for Pakistan, but for all of us.

    And now is a time for our shared humanity to move us to help. Americans have always shown great generosity to others facing crises around the world. And I call on you to do what you can. Every dollar makes a difference. $5 can buy 50 high energy bars providing much needed nutrition; $10 can provide a child or mother with a blanket; and about $40 can buy material to shelter a family of four.

    So I urge my fellow Americans to join this effort and send much needed help to the people of Pakistan by contributing to the Department of State’s Pakistan Relief Fund. Please go to http://www.state.gov or send $10 through your mobile phone by texting the word FLOOD, F-L-O-O-D, to 27722.

    If we come together now, we can meet this challenge and ensure that future generations in Pakistan have a chance to have the bright future they deserve and fulfill their own God-given potential

  192. I’m going to donate a small amount. I didn’t donate to Haitian Relief effort, either, and Hatians are predominately Christian. I am doing it because they are having difficulty raising money, and I don’t like to see people suffer. I hope that the money is used for what is intended since Pakistan is a notoriously corrupt country. If I could donate to a Christian Relief group that works there, that is probably the way I will do it. If I cannot find one like Catholic Charities, then I will donate via Hillary’s link.

  193. ADMIN Could you please release my comment that I made on 11:06pm so that people understand what my 11:11pm comment is referencing?

    Thank you!

  194. I found this on Hillbuzz tonight. This is for turndownobama concerning the Greek Orthodox Church, and the government dicking them around with regards to the reconstruction of a new church to replace the St. Nicholas Church that was destroyed on 9/11.

    Greek Orthodox Archdiocese issues statement on the rebuilding of NYC’s St. Nicholas Church

    Posted 08/20
    NEW YORK, NY [GOA Press Office/OCA] — The growing controversy over the construction of a mosque in close proximity to Ground Zero has raised a new awareness of the plight of the faithful of Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which was completely destroyed when World Trade Center Tower Two collapsed on it on 9/11.On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Fox News aired a special report on the church,
    transforming what primarily had been a local/regional issue into a national one.

    The following day, Fox reported that Port Authority officials alleged that the issue was “dead.”

    The following day, the New York City-based Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America issued a statement concerning the church, the complete text of which reads as follows.

    “As is well known, on September 11, 2001, our city and nation suffered a terrorist attack of unparalleled proportions. In addition to the tragic and horrific loss of almost 3,000 innocent victims, a number of whom were members of our own community, the world witnessed the unimaginable collapse of the Twin Towers. When the second Tower fell, it landed on and erased all traces of the Greek Orthodox Christian Church of Saint Nicholas, the only house of worship destroyed that day. Opened in 1916 by a group of Greek immigrants, the church not only served the spiritual needs of its parishioners but was also a sacred space in which people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds working in the surrounding area would often stop, light a candle and spend a few moments in prayer and reflection.

    “Following the events of 9/11, the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America and the Saint Nicholas parish fully cooperated and worked closely with the relevant authorities. Former Governor George Pataki pledged without reservation his support for rebuilding in the belief that it was a necessary part of the healing of New York City and of our nation. Early on, as plans were being formulated for the reconstruction of the area, the Church agreed to relocate and rebuild its house of worship at a new locale to facilitate the envisioned design for the overall site. In 2004, the authorities proposed that the new edifice be built at 130 Liberty Street, a parcel on the same block as the original site, and an agreement was reached between the Archdiocese and the Port Authority. Four successive LMDC/Port Authority administrations honored this mutual agreement
    which entailed extensive ongoing work and planning on the part of all parties.

    All site plans for the area which the LMDC/Port Authority released to the public show Saint Nicholas at this new locale. Regrettably, the latest Port Authority administration in 2009 unexpectedly and arbitrarily reneged on this agreement and as a result, the Archdiocese and St. Nicholas parish are suddenly offered no
    viable option.
    LMDC/Port Authority has refused to meet with us. In the meantime the LMDC/Port Authority has excavated the original site without our consent, rendering it unusable, in flagrant violation of our legal rights.

    “The Archdiocese and parish leadership remain firmly committed to the rebuilding of the church honoring the long standing agreement with LMDC/Port Authority. Confident that we have acted in good faith and trusting in Almighty God, we expect that justice will prevail and that we will be successful in this sacred endeavor.”

    To find links to news broadcasts, to learn more about Saint Nicholas Church, or to donate for rebuilding efforts, visit http://www.goarch.org, or text REBUILD to 27722 and $10 will be added to your mobile phone bill and it will be earmarked for the Saint Nicholas rebuilding.

  195. counterpunch.org/leupp08192010.html

    By innuendo they assert that Rauf is linked to international terrorism. That seems unlikely since he’s been hired by the FBI since 2001 to offer sensitivity training to agents and has also just been asked by the State Department recently to tour the Middle East to “foster greater understanding” about the U.S. and its Muslims.

    The charge seems based solely on the fact that in a June 2010 interview with Aaron Klein of New York’s WABC Radio, he declined to say whether he agreed with the listing of Hamas as a “terrorist organization.”

    He declined to do, replying, “I’m not a politician. I try to avoid the issues. The issue of terrorism is a very complex question…. I’m a bridge builder. I define my work as a bridge builder. I do not want to be placed, nor do I accept to be placed in a position of being put in a position where I am the target of one side or another.”

  196. the reconstruction of the area, the [St Nicolas] Church agreed to relocate and rebuild its house of worship at a new locale to facilitate the envisioned design for the overall site. In 2004, the authorities proposed that the new edifice be built at 130 Liberty Street, a parcel on the same block as the original site, and an agreement was reached between the Archdiocese and the Port Authority. Four successive LMDC/Port Authority administrations honored this mutual agreement
    which entailed extensive ongoing work and planning on the part of all parties.

    All site plans for the area which the LMDC/Port Authority released to the public show Saint Nicholas at this new locale. Regrettably, the latest Port Authority administration in 2009 unexpectedly and arbitrarily reneged on this agreement and as a result, the Archdiocese and St. Nicholas parish are suddenly offered no
    viable option.

    ======================

    Ah, thank you for some facts!

    Please note the situation is as I guessed: the St N’s problem is that they ARE in ‘ground zero’, which is under the authority of LMDC/Port Authority and must fit into a LMDC/Port Authority plan for the whole ‘ground zero’ area.

    Apparently the Cordoba project does not have this problem because they are not under the authority of the LMDC/Port Authority and do not need to be fitted into the LMDC/Port Authority plan.

    Because the Cordoba project is NOT in ‘ground zero.’

  197. Is this quote, attributed to Thomas Paine, accurate?

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    I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of… Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)

  198. wbboei
    August 20th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    Jan– Jacob Heilbrunn is a proven plagiarist as you can see below.

    ————————-

    Thank you for providing the link. Very enlightening.

  199. Survey: ‘The whole world is against us’

    By YONI COHEN
    19/08/2010

    TAU Peace Index finds that 54% of Jews say Israel is isolated.

    Fifty-six percent of Jewish Israelis believe that “the whole world is against us,” according to a recent Peace Index survey published on Thursday.

    The Peace Index project is conducted under the auspices of the Evens Program for Conflict Resolution at Tel Aviv University and the Israel Democracy Institute.

    Many Israeli Jews believe that the world will continue to be critical of Israel with 77% saying that it does not make difference what Israel does and how far it will go on the Palestinian issue.

    In contrast to the Jewish population, a large majority (75%) of the Arab public disagrees with the maxim that the whole world is against Israel.

    A small majority (54%) of the Jewish public believe that Israel is completely or moderately isolated, this is compared with 46% who believe that Israel is not alone. Opinion among the Arab public is similar, but in reverse, with 48% saying that Israel is isolated and 51% believe that Israel does not find itself isolated in the world.

    The majority of the Jewish public believe that the government has not handled Israel’s foreign relations, with 62% giving the government a failing grade.

    Only 34% believe that the government’s functioning in this realm as moderately or very satisfactory.

    When asked the same question, the Arab public gave a much more positive response with 47% giving the government a good or very good grade.

    When asked why young Jews in the Diaspora become distanced from Israel, 49% attributed a strong influence to the general weakening of Jewish identity among young people in the Diaspora. Israel’s policy on the Palestinian issue was considered the least influential factor with only 22% of respondents saying that it had an influence.

    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman did not fair too well in the survey with 55% of Jewish respondents saying that he is moderately or greatly damaging Israel’s status in the international community.

    Not surprisingly opinion among the Arab population is similar but more extreme with 81% believing that Lieberman is damaging Israel.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=185338

  200. The last fig leaf fell off the Obama administration’s hope and change with the first-time unemployment filing going to the Hindenburg Omen-worthy 500,000 the week ending August 14, reported today (as presciently pointed to by Joe Brusuelas, Bloomberg, when we spoke last Friday 13).

    The markets now prepare themselves for a slide and drift, as there is no going higher with this much uncertainty and gloom. The Philadelphia Fed manufacturing number declined for the first time since the depths of July 2009.

    No one plans to hire, because there is a weakness in orders that leads to weakness in inventory build-up. They are going to let their shelves empty again and wait for the election.

    POTUS campaigns on the statement that the GOP wrecked the economy (not untrue) and that the Democrats have saved the economy and are moving in the right direction.

    This is no longer accurate. The economy is now going in reverse, with an “R,” – which is not useful for POTUS’s drab wit when he says the GOP will put the car of state in reverse. Ooops. “R” for Reverse Hope. Shrug.

    Larry Kudlow tells me that Larry Summers is soon gone from the POTUS econocoven, and James Pethokoukis, Reuters, does not disagree. With Christina (Cheerful) Romer already out the door, with the markets already prepped for the Hindenberg Omen, nothing like a morning bath in arsenic and ashes to plump up the corpse of the Democratic Congress.

    Speaking with David Drucker, Roll Call, re the GOP strategists now saying it is okay to attack Obama directly, as he is toxic.

    The Democrats are telling their guys just to avoid POTUS as much as possible, but it is okay to use him for a fundraiser. Just don’t talk policy. Prepare Hindenburg. Hydrogen gas ready. Lakehurst, New Jersey, here we come. (Steve Russolillo, DowJones, tells me that there is a 25% chance of a crash, back-tested to 1988.) Oh, the humility!

    CHART OF THE DAY: Goldman Sachs Thinks the End of the Stimulus Is Going to Crush GDP Growth

  201. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRof_dizXH4

    Today I was told that Obama’s plan is to legalize the illegals, to provide them with special benefits and to liquidate social security to pay for it. I hope that is not true but it came from an informed source. That is why November is critical.

    This video gives you a good idea of how Obama is letting the problem get increasingly worse, so an end game like this becomes plausible. This is why some of us have deep concern that the country will make it to 2012. I am talking reality here.

    If you combine this with a steadily deteriorating economy where the real unemployment figure is over 18% perhaps you can see the problem.

    The source I spoke to today for 3 hours mentioned how the dissatisfaction with Obama seems to break down. People over 50 are furious with him because he is destroying their world and their retirement security. People who have graduated from college recently are dissatisfied as well because they have large debts and no jobs. People who are 30-40 especially the teckies are strong supporters because they are in charge of many parts of the business world now. However those people are like Obama in the sense that they have no experience and that is what is starting to get them into trouble. They tend to hire people their own age, so older workers now are frozen out of the job market. And as Obama continues to heap costs on the bleaguered taxpayer, the economy is not producing the jobs to pay the taxes. It is unsustainable.

    One thing that is particularly noteworthy is that Larry Summers is leaving. Since he outmaneuvered everyone else to get his way this is less apt to be a move based on frustration, but more likely an example of another rat jumping off a sinking ship. God I hope Hillary walks away from this miasma before it is too late. My biggest fear is that she won’t.

  202. wbboei
    August 21st, 2010 at 1:03 am
    —————————–
    I neglected to copy the author of the above piece. It is John Batchelor.

  203. S
    August 20th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Blago will not go quietly into the night…he is starting to hum his tune…so people are aware he has a song to sing…if anyone thinks he is going down…he will not go down alone…message is clear…
    ——————–

    Yup, and this is Blago’s special gift to Barry that I am waiting for.
    Sing Blago, sing!

  204. The other thing that source noted to me is how revealing it is that Obama celebrated Ramadan in the White House. First president who has ever done that. Since Muslims are not a large political constituency in terms of numbers it is a good bet that the motive was personal rather than political. It lends further credence to the view that he is Muslim himself as his Indonesian records say, and/or that he is a surrogate for the Saudis, as hypothesized earlier. Do you remember how in the primary that picture of Obama in sultan garb showed up and his assholes accused the Clinton campaign of releasing it? Instead of hitting back they retreated, which was a mistake.

  205. New additions make for 107 Journolist names
    Clarice Feldman
    Poster Buckeye Texan of Free Republic has posted an updated list of 107 names confirmed on Journalist, with organization identities provided:

    1. Spencer Ackerman – Wired, FireDogLake, Washington
    Independent, Talking Points Memo, The American Prospect
    2. Ben Adler – Newsweek, POLITICO
    3. Mike Allen – POLITICO
    4. Eric Alterman – The Nation, Media Matters for America
    5. Marc Ambinder – The Atlantic
    6. Greg Anrig – The Century Foundation
    7. Ryan Avent – Economist
    8. Dean Baker – The American Prospect
    9. Nick Baumann – Mother Jones
    10. Josh Bearman – LA Weekly
    11. Steven Benen – The Carpetbagger Report
    12. Jared Bernstein – Economic Policy Institute
    13. Michael Berube – Crooked Timber (blog), Pennsylvania State University
    14. Lindsay Beyerstein – (blogger)
    15. Joel Bleifuss – In These Times
    16. John Blevins – South Texas College of Law
    17. Sam Boyd – The American Prospect
    18. Rich Byrne – Playwright and freelancer
    19. Ta-Nehisi Coates – The Atlantic
    20. Jonathan Chait – The New Republic
    21. Lakshmi Chaudry – In These Times
    22. Isaac Chotiner – The New Republic
    23. Michael Cohen – New America Foundation
    24. Jonathan Cohn – The New Republic
    25. Joe Conason – The New York Observer
    26. David Corn – Mother Jones
    27. Daniel Davies – The Guardian
    28. David Dayen – FireDogLake
    29. Brad DeLong – The Economists’ Voice, University of California at Berkley
    30. Ryan Donmoyer – Bloomberg
    31. Kevin Drum – Washington Monthly
    32. Matt Duss – Center for American Progress
    33. Eve Fairbanks – The New Republic
    34. Henry Farrell – George Washington University
    35. Tim Fernholz – American Prospect
    36. James Galbraith – University of Texas at Austin (professor)
    37. Todd Gitlin – Columbia University
    38. Ilan Goldenberg – National Security Network
    39. Dana Goldstein – The Daily Beast
    40. Merrill Goozner – Chicago Tribune
    41. David Greenberg – Slate
    42. Robert Greenwald – Brave New Films
    43. Chris Hayes – The Nation
    44. Don Hazen – Alternet
    45. Michael Hirsh – Newsweek
    46. John Judis – The New Republic, The American Prospect
    47. Michael Kazin – Georgetown University (law professor)
    48. Ed Kilgore – Democratic Stategist
    49. Richard Kim – The Nation
    50. Mark Kleiman – The Reality Based Community
    51. Ezra Klein – Washington Post, Newsweek, The American Prospect
    52. Joe Klein – TIME
    53. Paul Krugman – The New York Times, Princeton University
    54. Lisa Lerer – POLITICO
    55. Daniel Levy – Century Foundation
    56. Alec McGillis – Washington Post
    57. Scott McLemee – Inside Higher Ed
    58. Ari Melber – The Nation
    59. Seth Michaels – MyDD.com
    60. Luke Mitchell – Harper’s Magazine
    61. Gautham Nagesh – The Hill, Daily Caller
    62. Suzanne Nossel – Human Rights Watch
    63. Michael O’Hare – University of California, Berkeley
    64. Rick Perlstein – Author, Campaign for America’s Future
    65. Harold Pollack – University of Chicago
    66. Foster Kamer – The Village Voice
    67. Katha Pollitt – The Nation
    68. Ari Rabin-Havt – Media Matters
    69. David Roberts – Grist
    70. Alyssa Rosenberg – Washingtonian, The Atlantic, Government Executive
    71. Alex Rossmiller – National Security Network
    72. Laura Rozen – Politico, Mother Jones
    73. Greg Sargent – Washington Post
    74. Thomas Schaller – Baltimore Sun
    75. Noam Scheiber – The New Republic
    76. Michael Scherer – TIME
    77. Mark Schmitt – American Prospect
    78. Adam Serwer – American Prospect
    79. Thomas Schaller – Baltimore Sun (columnist), University of Maryland, Baltimore County (professor), FiveThirtyEight.com (contributing writer)
    80. Julie Bergman Sender – Balcony Films
    81. Walter Shapiro – PoliticsDaily.com
    82. Nate Silver – FiveThirtyEight.com
    83. Jesse Singal – The Boston Globe, Washington Monthly
    84. Ben Smith – POLITICO
    85. Sarah Spitz – NPR
    86. Adele Stan – The Media Consortium
    87. Kate Steadman – Kaiser Health News
    88. Jonathan Stein – Mother Jones
    89. Sam Stein – The Huffington Post
    90. Jesse Taylor – Pandagon.net
    91. Steven Teles – Yale University
    92. Thoma – The Economist’s View (blog), University of Oregon (professor)
    93. Michael Tomasky – The Guardian
    94. Jeffrey Toobin – CNN, The New Yorker
    95. Rebecca Traister – Salon (columnist)
    96. Cenk Uygur – The Young Turks
    97. Tracy Van Slyke – The Media Consortium
    98. Dave Weigel – Washington Post, MSNBC, The Washington Independent
    99. Moira Whelan – National Security Network
    100. Scott Winship – Pew Economic Mobility Project
    101. Kai Wright – The Root
    102. Holly Yeager – Columbia Journalism Review
    103. Rich Yeselson – Change to Win
    104. Matthew Yglesias – Center for American Progress, The Atlantic Monthly
    105. Jonathan Zasloff – UCLA
    106. Julian Zelizer – Princeton professor and CNN contributor
    107. Avi Zenilman – POLITICO

  206. Thanks for the list Wbboei. We will try to always refer to these people as “JournoLister” (as in “JournoLister Ben Smith”) when we refer to any of them.

  207. From

    Canada Free Press

    50 Impeachable Crimes and Counting
    By Fred Dardick Tuesday, August 17, 2010

    A few weeks ago I wrote an article From the White House to the Big House: 25 Impeachable Crimes and Counting that detailed 25 illegal acts committed by President Obama and his Democrat cohorts in Washington. It showed a President and political party willing to break the law at will in order to accomplish their political aims. Thanks to reader contributions and conservative writers around the country, here are 25 more for your consideration.

    Whether or not any of these troubling examples will lead to Obama’s impeachment and/or imprisonment, only time will tell. Regardless, taken together they paint a picture of an out of control President who lacks basic American values and has little to no respect for the rule of law.
    25 More Impeachable Crimes

    1. Obama’s term as Board Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in the mid-1990s where he and his colleague, unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, misused over $300 million in private donations meant to improve the education of minorities. Instead of spending the money on traditional learning programs, Obama and Ayers directed the funds to local community activists who wasted it on trying to “radicalize” the students. An official review of the program found that it was a complete and utter failure.
    2. As an Illinois State Senator, Obama directed tens of millions in state money to slumlords Valerie Jarrett and Tony Rezko meant to provide for housing for low income, minority tenants in return for political donations. Due to shoddy construction and nonexistent maintenance, the majority of the units, after less than 10 years of use, have been rendered uninhabitable.
    3. Michelle Obama’s politically connected $316,000 VP of Community Affairs job at University of Chicago Hospitals while her husband was serving as US Senator. She was responsible for the design of an illegal “patient dumping” scheme that prevents local African Americans from using the emergency room at one of the nation’s finest hospitals and instead redirects them to community healthcare centers where they often receive substandard and inadequate treatment. The high paying position was eliminated soon after Mrs. Obama’s departure from the university.
    4. Millions in illegal contributions accepted by the Obama campaign during his presidential run. Credit card filters designed to screen out foreign money and domestic donors who had maxed out their legally allowable limits, as required by US law, were intentionally switched off.
    5. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s ongoing effort to create international small arms accords that will subvert the Second Amendment rights of US citizens.
    6. The Russian-American START treaty signed by Obama in April 2010 that has no chance of making it through Congress unless passed during the lame duck session. Not only does the treaty hamstring US missile defense development and make it difficult to modernize our rapidly aging nuclear weapons arsenal, it represents unilateral disarmament by the US in return for nothing more than Russian “good will”.
    7. Moving control of the Census Bureau from the Commerce Department directly into the White House where it is managed by Chief of Staff Rham Emmanuel.
    8. Providing de facto amnesty to illegal immigrants by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton, who has prohibited ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws outside the institutional setting. The ICE union has subsequently taken the unprecedented step of voting “no confidence” in Morton’s leadership.
    9. Attorney General Erik Holder’s failure to sue sanctuary cities for violating US immigration law, while at the same time proceeding with a lawsuit against the State of Arizona for enforcing US immigration law.
    10. Failure by Obama to treat the takeover of sovereign land in Arizona by the Mexican drug cartel as an Act of War.
    11. Refusal by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Administrator David L. Strickland to release results from an internal investigation into the Toyota sudden acceleration problem that contains findings favorable to the foreign automaker.
    12. Ongoing efforts by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski to gain control over the internet in opposition to a judge’s ruling and Congress’s will, by reclassifying internet companies as telecommunication providers thus making them subject to FCC regulation.
    13. Obama and his environmentalist allies preventing US industries from taking advantage of our rich natural resources including oil, coal, uranium and timber.
    14. Obama’s month long stint as UN Security Council Chair in 2009, the first ever by a sitting U.S. President. Not only did this action give credibility to an international organization ruled by tyrants, it also called into question potential dual loyalties by our President.
    15. The Obama National Security Strategy released in May that allows for the targeted assassination of US citizens including “homegrown terrorists” without due process. It has also been described by the Kremlin, which knows quite a lot about these kinds of things, as a “new law put forth by President Obama capable of seeing up to 500,000 American citizens jailed for the crime of opposing their government.”
    16. Obama executive order signed in Dec. 2009 that allows Interpol to operate in US territory with impunity and without oversight by Congress, the courts, FBI or local law enforcement.
    17. Deployment of 1,200 National Guard troops to border states where they will not, under any circumstances, be used to stop the flow of illegal aliens or drug traffickers.
    18. A foreign policy that can be best described as the turning away of our allies, in particular Great Britain, Israel, Honduras, Poland, Columbia, and Taiwan, and the embracement of our enemies.
    19. The State Department using $23 million in taxpayer money to help transform Kenya into a constitutionally communist nation where the freedom of speech is limited and private property rights are subservient to “social justice”. In addition, the recently adopted Kenyan constitution allows for the practice of Sharia Law in some regions, ensuring women will not be guaranteed basic human rights.
    20. Obama’s refusal to hold press conferences and answer difficult questions as expected of a US President. Never in the modern age has there been a President so unwilling to answer to the American people for his actions. Considering the public’s growing anger towards his progressive policies, it is doubtful Obama will ever hold another press conference again.
    21. The $26 billion bailout of the teacher’s unions that Obama recently signed into law. Not only was the money taken from food stamp programs for poor Americans in order to fund Democrat special interests, a portion will be skimmed off the top as union dues and funneled to Democrat political campaigns this fall.
    22. Obama’s involvement with Governor Rod Blagojevich’s attempt to sell his old Illinois Senate seat. Even if Obama didn’t try to purchase the position for his chosen replacement, slumlord Valerie Jarrett, at the very least he had to know the seat was for sale.
    23. Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s plans to take control of millions of acres of public and private land in Western states by designating them national monuments. These efforts are being carried out in secret and without input from Congress, state and local officials and current land owners.
    24. Obama’s use of taxpayer money to pay for Democrat propaganda including $15 million for The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act road signs and $18 million for the perpetually misleading recovery.gov website.
    25. The lasting damage Obama has done to the Jewish people. In his less than two years in office, there has been an outpouring of hatred towards the Jews the likes of which I thought I would never live to see. From Helen Thomas telling the Jews to “get the hell out of Palestine” to heavily armed, terrorist flotillas destined for the Gaza Strip described as “peaceful” by the western press. From throwing stones at little old ladies leaving synagogue in Sweden to the thousands of Jewish families fleeing Muslim persecution in France, a sea change in world public opinion against the Jewish people has been accomplished during Obama’s term. Because of his refusal to speak out against virulent anti-Semitism being pushed by left-wing politicians and Islamists around the world, the harm to the Jewish people will surely outlive his presidency and could have terrible, unforeseen consequences.

    Original List of 25 Impeachable Offences

    1. Convicted felon and Chicago real estate developer Tony Rezko’s purchase of land adjacent to Obama’s house in Hyde Park, IL. In 2006, Rezko sold a 10 foot strip of his property to Obama for $104,500, rendering the remainder of Rezko’s $625,000 investment too small to be developed and, for all intents and purposes, worthless.
    2. The provision of Obama campaign donor lists to ACORN in 2007 and 2008, more complete than the ones he gave to the FEC. ACORN used the lists to raise money for Obama’s election from donors who had already maxed out their legally allowable contributions.
    3. Widespread voter fraud including voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, falsified documents, and threats of violence against Hillary Clinton supporters committed by the Obama campaign and ACORN during the 2008 Democrat primary election. For more information see my CFP article How Obama Used an Army of Thugs to Steal the 2008 Democratic Party Nomination.
    4. Obama’s refusal to release his long form birth certificate which would show conclusively that he is a dual citizen and therefore not constitutionally eligible to serve as President. Obama’s college records, which have also not been released, would also contain information regarding his dual citizenship status.
    5. Protecting union interests over those of GM and Chrysler bond holders during bankruptcy proceedings, forcing investors to accept millions of dollars in losses in direct violation of bankruptcy laws, money to which they were legally entitled.
    6. Preferential treatment given to minority and women owned car dealerships by Obama administration officials as part of the auto industry bailout program and the forced closing of a disproportionate number of dealerships located in rural areas that did not vote for Obama.
    7. Unsubstantiated firing of Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin for exposing Sacramento Mayor and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson’s misuse of an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant.
    8. Purchase of Congressional support for the passage of Obama’s healthcare bill including the “Cornhusker Kickback”, “Louisiana Purchase” and having the Department of Interior increase water allocations to the Central Valley of California to secure the votes of Democrat Reps. Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa.
    9. Lying to the American people by promising they could keep their healthcare coverage if they wanted to, when in reality tens of millions will be forced out of their current plans.
    10. Attempted bribery of Rep. Joe Sestak with job offers to get him to drop out of the Senate primary race against Sen. Arlen Specter.
    11. Directing the EPA to unilaterally set carbon emission standards, thus bypassing Congress which opposes Obama’s energy reform bill. For more information see my CFP article Forget Cap and Trade: EPA Regulation of CO2 Emissions Will Begin in 10 Months.
    12. The Obama administration’s statement that a panel of experts had agreed with their plan for a 6 month Gulf Coast drilling moratorium, when in actuality none of them had supported the measure.
    13. Bullying BP to set up a $20 billion slush fund to compensate Gulf Coast businesses and residents affected by the oil spill, to be administered by an Obama political appointee without any judicial or congressional oversight.
    14. Implementing a third oil-drilling moratorium after the first two were thrown out of court, creating a de facto Gulf Coast offshore drilling ban in opposition to two judge’s rulings.
    15. Establishment of a commission to investigate the Gulf Coast oil spill that contains not one oil industry expert and whose transparent purpose is to push a partisan political agenda rather than investigate the cause of the disaster.
    16. Obama’s policy of intentionally not securing our nation’s borders, in opposition to Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution which calls for the President to protect states from foreign invasion, in an attempt to blackmail Republican support for comprehensive immigration reform. In essence, Obama is holding border states and residents politically hostage during a time they are being overrun by a narco-paramilitary invasion.
    17. Department of Justice illegal race based policies regarding voter fraud as exposed by former Justice attorney J. Christian Adams. This includes the dropping of voter intimidation charges against 2 Black Panthers brandishing weapons in front of a voting location in Philadelphia and the stated intention by political appointees to ignore voter crimes committed by African Americans, Latinos and other minorities.
    18. Department of Justice purposefully allowing some states to continue their disenfranchisement of military personnel serving overseas in direct opposition to the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, which was established in response to the more than 17,000 military votes that were not counted in the 2008 election because ballots had arrived after the deadline.
    19. Recess appointment of Donald Berwick as head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services without even a token attempt to put him through the Congressional nomination process, signaling that Congress’s constitutional obligation to vet presidential appointees means nothing to Obama. The same can be said of the 30+ Obama administration czars.
    20. Spending $23 million of taxpayer money through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to support a constitutional referendum in Kenya in spite of the Siljander Amendment, which makes it illegal for the U.S. to lobby for abortion in other countries. The Kenyan referendum was partially written by Planned Parenthood and is designed to legalize abortion in that nation.
    21. The participation of the Obama administration in the firing of Sherry Sherrod from the USDA without due process because of publicized out of context remarks she made at a NAACP meeting in March 2010.
    22. The White House sham investigation of BP’s involvement in the release of the mass murdering Lockerbie bomber from prison. The Obama administration not only knew beforehand of the Scottish government’s plan to set Abdel Baset al-Megrahi free on “compassionate” grounds, they even sent a letter to Scottish authorities stating their preference for his remaining in Scotland over his transfer to a Libyan prison.
    23. The canceling of 77 properly filed oil field development contracts approved by the Bush administration by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, preventing the extraction of up to 3 trillion gallons of oil buried under Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and North Dakota, more than enough to end our dependence on foreign oil and supply the U.S. with its energy needs for hundreds of years at current consumption rates.
    24. Investigations by the Department of Homeland Security to determine the political affiliation of people making Freedom of Information Act requests and the subsequent delay and even altogether ignoring of requests made by Republican affiliated individuals.
    25. The hardest to prosecute in court, but worst crime of all that Obama has perpetrated against the American people is the economic tyranny his socialist policies have wrecked upon our nation. While Obama has been living the life of a king including frequent 5 star vacations, dozens of concerts at the White House and endless rounds of golf, all paid for by taxpayer money—the increased transportation and security costs alone are in the millions of dollars—he has called for the rest of us to endure economic sacrifice. The annual trillion dollar deficits and borrowing of 41 cents of every dollar of federal spending by Obama is leading to unsustainable and potentially catastrophic national debt.

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  208. Turndownobama at 12.47AM

    Yes Your quotation is in Age of Reason Part First Section 1 Page 1

    The correct quotation is

    I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    You can read Thomas Paine’s complete works on line at

    http://www.ushistory.org/PAINE/

  209. In continuation of my above comment, the following is also in Age of Reason on the same page after a few more sentences.

    Each of those churches show certain books, which they call revelation, or the word of God. The Jews say, that their word of God was given by God to Moses, face to face; the Christians say, that their word of God came by divine inspiration: and the Turks say, that their word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from Heaven. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all

  210. I still can’t believe we are allowing the nuts in Iran to have a nuclear power plant! This is what Obama was selected for, among others, all which is BAD for the United States.

  211. I still can’t believe we are allowing the nuts in Iran to have a nuclear power plant! This is what Obama was selected for, among others, all which is BAD for the United States.
    ——————————————————
    Confloyd, my sense of it is this: first, Obama does not want to do what should have been done to undermine that regime because it cuts against his idealistic construct of foreign policy which is Wilsonian as opposed to Machiavellian. Second, he does not want to go up against China or to a lesser extent Russia who have strong business ties to Iran. Third, he reckons that when they do become a nuclear power then he can negotiate a strategic arms limitation treaty with them–which they will sign and then repudiate by giving that technology to al Qaeda. Fourth, he does not want to risk a confrontation with the Muslim world because that could destabilize his mentors in the Saudi Royal family. Sixth, he does not want to destabilize the oil market. Seventh, he reckons that if HE can get a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine AND if HE can get a strategic arms limitation treaty with Iran then he can earn that Nobel Prize he was given and make himself the greatest President in history. He will get some biased and ethically challenged historian like ummmmm Doris Kearns Goodwin to say as much. Historic will be the word, And if Hillary thinks there will be anything in this for her she is sadly mistaken. But more important than that we will see a reprise of Neville Chamberlanin with that umbrella and a note in his hand saying things like I have met with Mr. Hitler. I can do business with him. And I bring you good news because what I have here is my hand is the key to everything–a document which ensures peace in our time. I hope Hillary does not get sucked into this thing. She needs to get our after the elections.

  212. We will try to always refer to these people as “JournoLister” (as in “JournoLister Ben Smith”) when we refer to any of them.
    ————————-
    Excellent.

  213. Wbboei, Thankyou for your excellent analysis and I agree. I do hope Hillary moves on soon, I would hate for her to get the stain of this POS.

    Most Christians will tell you if there is a true peace/complete peace with all the nations of the Arab world and Israel it will be the beginning of the END. Inotherwards, Armagaddeon will shortly follow.

    So your analysis is right on target!

  214. The question is whether this doofcock has the ability to forge this peace….we will see! I doubt it, he is so ate up with his own self worth that he can’t see the forest for the trees.

    The Iranian regime is laughing at him as is Putin!

  215. When I said there is nothing in this for Hillary I meant nothing in terms of future political viability. There is of course a respect that comes from peers in the foreign policy world–newsmen like Gelb, practioners like Kissinger and pretenders like Joe Klein. Also, there is the esteem of foreign leaders. Hillary will decide for herself how important that is. If it is that important then she will stay put and not make the move we hope she will. I have no earthly idea what she is thinking now, save to say that 90% of her attention is undoubtedly focused on world events which change minute by minute. But in terms of what is important to the American People that is not where the game is. The game is right here and what it entails is turning this country around, rebuilding an economy and restoring hope for the middle class. That is where her talents are most productively directed. National failure is more serious than foreign policy failure. She cannot let this country fail. And she cannot prevent that from happening if she remains where she is as Secretary of State.

  216. I hope everyone reads the article I posted about Wikileaks because it tells me that Obama will stop at nothing to make sure his plans for the destruction of America comes about. Obama and his handlers are ruthless.
    I still believe that his handlers did threaten Hillary.

    Trumped up charges against Julian Assange and you think they couldn’t/wouldn’t do it to Hillary Clinton and family??? Yes they would, in a heart beat.

  217. While in office, President Clinton tried to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians. He got directly involved and still the Palestinians chickened out. They wanted more and more.

    Now obama wants to solve what cannot be solved and Hamas, Hizbollah, et al, will fight him all the way.

    Good luck with that.

  218. JanH, He can’t even keep his constituents happy…always talking when he should be listening…sure he has the capability to do it…right! LOL!

  219. Is He? or is he not a Muslim?

    Answer?

    Place a CIA Mole in the WH then look for a Prayer Rug. Swipe it and run a DNA test on it. Simple cheap and final.

    Run Hillary Run and SOON

  220. Is He? or is he not a Muslim?

    Answer?

    Place a CIA Mole in the WH then look for a Prayer Rug. Swipe it and run a DNA test on it. Simple cheap and final.

    Run Hillary Run and SOON
    ————————
    Good idea ABM 90–on all counts. That would make a great bumper sticker after the fall election: “Run Hillary Run and SOON”

  221. http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/frequently-asked-questions

    Clearing up false charges made against Imam Feisal:

    “On 60 Minutes, the Imam said that American Foreign policy is an accessory to terrorism”

    [T]he statement was edited out of context. In the full interview, Imam Feisal describes the mistake the CIA made in the 1980s by financing Osama Bin Laden and strengthening the Taliban. This view is widely shared within the US and the US Government today, and Imam Feisal underlines the importance of not supporting “friends of convenience” who may in the future become our enemies. This is common sense.

    [….]

    “Imam Feisal has not condemned Hamas”

    Imam Feisal has always condemned terrorism (see his 1995 book “What’s Right With Islam is What’s Right with America” and his hundreds of speeches). Hamas is both a political movement and a terrorist organization. Hamas commits atrocious acts of terror. Imam Feisal has forcefully and consistently condemned all forms of terrorism, including those committed by Hamas, as un-Islamic. In his book, he even went so far as to include a copy of the Fatwa issued after 9/11 by the most respected clerics of Egypt defining the 9/11 attack as an un-Islamic act of terror and giving permission to Muslims in the U.S. armed forces to fight against those who committed this act of terror. Imam Feisal included this in his book to prove that terrorism must be fought even if Muslims have to fight fellow Muslims to stop it.

    “Imam Feisal is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood because his book was translated into Arabic by a publisher with ties to the Brotherhood.”

    Both charges are false. Imam Feisal has no connection whatsoever to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Arabic translation rights to his book were arranged by the Arabic book program at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, United States of America.

    “Imam Feisal is a member of the Perdana Global Peace Organization, which is a funder of the flotilla that attempted to deliver aid to residents of Gaza.”

    Imam Feisal has never been a member of this group. Several years ago, Imam Feisal was invited to Malaysia, the most moderate Islamic country in the world, to participate in a Peace Conference sponsored by the Perdana Peace Group. He was one of the hundreds of speakers present. He has no political, advisory or business affiliation of any nature with the Perdana group. A photo of Imam Feisal was taken at the conference, and this has been used to “prove” his membership in the Perdana Global Peace Organization, but the allegation is false. Because of the controversy surrounding Perdana, we have requested the Perdana Group to remove the photo of him from their publicity.

    [….]

    We wish to thank the following organizations for their support:

    September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, J Street, The Arab American Family Support Center, CLAL–The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, Auburn Seminary, American Jewish Committee, Cause New York, Chautauqua Institute, Congregation B’nai Jeshurun, Faith House Manhattan, Friends of the Arava Institute, Interfaith Youth Core, Intersections, Interfaith Center of New York, The Interfaith Alliance, Jewish Community Center in Manhattan, Lutheran Seafarers and International House, New York Buddhist Church, Odyssey Networks, New Seminary, Out of Cordoba, Averros and Miamonides, NY interfaith Disaster, One Voice, One Spirit, St. Bartholomew’s Church, Same Difference Interfaith Alliance, The Church of St. Paul and St. Andrew, Tanenbaum Center, The Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, Trinity Wall Church, The Healing of the Nations Foundation, The Migration Policy Institute, Union Theological Seminary, St. Peters Church, UN Special Envoy for HIV/AIDS in Asia and the Pacific, [sic]

  222. I was thinking about this this morning.

    1/ the biggest curse of the Bush administration was perhaps the doctrine of pre-emptive strike

    2/ the biggest curse of the Obama administration is his repudiation of American exceptionalism.

    That, coupled with his de facto policy of open borders and you no longer have a country.

  223. 21 August 2010 14:07

    Bill Clinton – Mccartney Serenades Another President

    Former U.S. President BILL CLINTON was treated to a musical surprise on his 64th birthday – SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY called him up to serenade him.

    The Democrat was delighted after picking up the phone to hear the Beatles legend on the line after reaching the age on Thursday (19Aug10).

    And he was stunned when MCCartney began an impromptu rendition of the Beatles’ 1967 love song, When I’m Sixty-Four.

    A source tells Britain’s Daily Mirror, “Sir Paul knows Bill is a huge fan of the Fab Four and instantly agreed to ring him. Well, it’s not every day you can get on the line to a former President.

    “But Bill was even more over the moon when he heard him – and couldn’t believe it when he started singing When I’m Sixty-Four.

    “Bill’s been a fan his whole life. He loves MACca’s solo stuff, too. So they chatted for ages.”

    It’s not the first American leader MCCartney has performed for – he staged a concert for U.S. President Barack Obama at the White House in Washington, D.C. in June (10).

    http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/mccartney-serenades-another-president_1160582

  224. Clinton will be in charge of latest round of Mideast talks between Mahmoud Abbas, Benjamin Netanyahu

    BY Kenneth R. Bazinet
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
    Saturday, August 21st 2010,

    Washington – A Clinton is once again trying to broker the elusive land-for-peace deal between Israelis and Palestinians.

    Secretary of State Clinton will referee the first face-to-face negotiations in two years between the leaders of Israel and the Palestinian Authority, she said yesterday.

    The meeting is set for Sept. 2 at the State Department.

    The players have a year to reach a deal – or at least show they’re making progress.

    “These negotiations should take place without preconditions and be characterized by good faith and a commitment to their success, which will bring a better future to all of the people of the region,” Clinton said.

    “It is important that actions by all sides help to advance our effort, not hinder it. There have been difficulties in the past, there will be difficulties ahead.”

    President Obama will host Mahmoud Abbas and Benjamin Netanyahu at a dinner the previous evening, Clinton said.

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Jordan’s King Abdullah and ex-British Prime Minister Tony Blair, another key Mideast peace mediator, are also invited to dinner.

    Hamas is not invited.

    Obama will meet one-on-one with all the foreign leaders, but he’s assigned Clinton the ringmaster role in talks between Netanyahu and Abbas.

    Clinton’s task is to try to do what her husband, ex-President Bill Clinton, fell short of accomplishing: A two-state solution with Israel and Palestine existing side-by-side.

    Obama will be used as an ace card, brought to the table only when necessary.

    Everything is on the table, including the most contentious issues, from the status of Jerusalem and Gaza, to land claims by Palestinians who left their homes after Israeli statehood, U.S. officials said.

    Bill Clinton had worked right up until the end of his administration to get a deal between Israel and Palestinians. He is credited with jump-starting the process when he mediated a successful accord in 1994 between Israel and Jordan.

    Obama made great strides at bringing the Israelis and Palestinians back to the table when he hosted Netanyahu at the White House last month, a source said.

    The two leaders buried the hatchet over bad blood triggered by Israel’s announcement in March it would end a moratorium on Jewish settlement expansion and build 1,800 housing units on longstanding Arab property in East Jerusalem.

    A contrite Netanyahu kept his word, delivering on his promise to Obama during that meeting to take “confidence-building” steps aimed at bringing both sides back to the table, the source said.

    Former President George W. Bush brought Abbas and ex-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert together in 2007 for the last round of talks.

    Those negotiations broke down a year later after Olmert launched a military offensive on Hamas-controlled Gaza.

    U.S. special Mideast envoy George Mitchell and national security adviser Gen. Jim Jones laid the foundation for the talks, shuttling to the Mideast to meet with key players.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/08/21/2010-08-21_its_hils_turn_to_make_peace_clinton_picks_up_baton_for_new_mideast_talks.html

  225. SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY= gadfly at large. A month ago he was wetting his pants over Obama. Anything to stay relevant. In the middle ages they had knights errant. Today we simply have errant knights. Case in point: Sir Paul.

  226. Obama keeps Hillary on the jet for 20months and just barely gave her enough time off for her daughters wedding and what does he do now for her???

    He gives her the charge of the Peace Talks, the most difficult and daunting act of diplomacy ever to be undertaken by anyone, and no one has been able to ever get these two to make peace.

    Gotta know he is definitely hoping she will fail or die of exhaustion!

  227. Construction worker refuses to work on Ground Zero Victory Mosque. and growing number of people refusing to work on this victory mosque.

    Says when the landmark decision was reached, he saw elderly parents of a murdered firefighters crying on one side clutching to their dead son’s photograph and the developers of the Victory Mosque high fiving and cheering on the other side.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u2G403xgRQ&

  228. John Batchelor:

    The markets do not believe Washington and have started talking randomly about the next Black Swan (known only after the fact) and those Hindenburg open-tickets to Lakehurst. Shrug. The housing program is the monster in the basement.

    The foreclosure gambit by the Treasury means that we have fake housing numbers because folk have been allowed to game the system and stay in their houses after stopping their mortgage payments. This keeps the house off the market, keeps their houses without overhead, and completely wrecks the comp prices on their streets and in their towns.

    Who can have confidence to buy when the Feds and the banks are warehousing inventory that is 30-50% overpriced and won’t be marked down until after you buy at the phony price? See the video below from my favorite Jim the Realtor re how Fannie is scheming in North San Diego County to hide the real decline in house prices in order to prop up the banks (who would have to mark down their asset sheets) and to hope and hop and hope and hop that prices rebound so they can move their shadow inventory stuff. Shrug. They pretend to fool us and we pretend to be entertained.

    The midterm is nearly now locked in as a wave swamp tsunami that will make the GOP feel important. What we do to the GOP after it has the House is not for the family hour programming. There will be blood.

  229. With these new talks, I hope this doesn’t mean Hillary is going to stay the whole 4 years. She needs to leave, and leave as soon as possible.

  230. Construction worker refuses to work on Ground Zero Victory Mosque. and growing number of people refusing to work on this victory mosque.

    Says when the landmark decision was reached, he saw elderly parents of a murdered firefighters crying on one side clutching to their dead son’s photograph and the developers of the Victory Mosque high fiving and cheering on the other side.
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    No problem here. Obama has two options. One option would be to find find muslim workers in the middle east, classify them as artisans needed for the sake of national security, and let them build the mosque. The other options would be to use illegal aliens to take jobs which American citizens refuse to perform, which is part of his mantra.

  231. With these new talks, I hope this doesn’t mean Hillary is going to stay the whole 4 years. She needs to leave, and leave as soon as possible
    —————————-
    That is what I was worried about above and trying to address.

  232. wbboei, I was at work when Hillary was speaking yesterday, but since the TV was just in the backgroud, I was only listening, not looking the at TV….. Hillary had the most monotone voice I had ever heard, no inflection, nothing….. it was like a robot speaking.

    I just wonder what in the world is going on. She just seemed so robotlike when she was speaking. Makes me think, all of this is being shoved on her.

  233. tim,
    Do you think she is being forced to tackle this huge problem???
    Bill always seems so happy…I don’t know whats up, but Hillary looks tired!

  234. W.H.: PRES. OBAMA ISN’T MUSLIM’
    A bonfire of liberal vanities, live on CNN.
    Wall Street Journal

    By JAMES TARANTO

    Richard Nixon was not a crook, Michael Dukakis was not unpatriotic, and Barack Obama is not a Muslim. Unlike Nixon and Dukakis, Obama didn’t actually issue an explicit defensive denial; instead, as we noted yesterday, the president said through a spokesman that he “is obviously a Christian. He prays every day.”

    But NewsBusters.org reports that CNN recast it as a Nixonian denial: “W.H.: PRES. OBAMA ISN’T MUSLIM,” read a chyron (caption at the bottom of the screen) yesterday on “The Situation Room,” as Wolf Blitzer led his program with a discussion of a recent poll in which 18% of participants thought Obama was Muslim.

    One of Blitzer’s guests, James Carville, offered this explanation for the finding:

    “I don’t [know] other than the fact people are just willing to believe anything or there are a lot of stupid people out there,” Carville said. “I really don’t have an explanation, just like I don’t have an explanation for the fact that you see some of these polls that a quarter of the people believe he was born outside the country. I’m just as flummoxed as the next person.”

    Newsbusters’ Jeff Poor makes an excellent point:

    Every time the question about President Barack Obama’s faith is brought up, the wizards of smart in the mainstream media get up in arms about “right-wingers” or “tea partiers” perpetuating those allegations. But is it possible that by devoting so much attention to these issues of Obama’s faith and his citizenship, the media are creating the very feeding frenzy they’re appalled by?

    This sounds exactly right to us. The agenda behind these polls, and the liberal media’s reporting on them, is to portray critics of President Obama as kooks and idiots (and, if you’re John Avlon, to peddle books, as we noted in March).

    This strategy is backfiring, and in two ways. First, as Poor suggests, by mainstreaming these supposedly fringe notions. If the idea that Obama is Muslim merits the attention of the august Pew Research Center for the People and the Press and the most respected name in news, who’s to say it’s crazy, or even wrong?

    Podcast

    James Taranto on Obama’s “Muslim” denial.

    Second, it puts the ugly attitudes of the liberal elite on display, à la Lonesome Rhodes’s open-mic incident in “A Face in the Crowd.” Now we know that James Carville thinks “there are a lot of stupid people out there.” At least those who work in the Obama White House are, for the most part, disciplined enough not to make such insulting statements–as Carville himself was when he worked for President Clinton. Yet when people hear such contemptuous statements from the president’s supporters in the media (as well as from some in politics, most notably Speaker Nancy Pelosi), they can draw their own conclusions about what Obama and his inner circle think of them.

    Thus, at a time when the vast majority of voters oppose the president’s policies for any number of legitimate reasons, the media’s self-superior dwelling on “stupid” or “kooky” Obama critics tends to marginalize Obama, not his opponents. Obama’s presidency is being consumed in a bonfire of liberal vanities.

    All the News That’s Fit to Print

    The great Greg Sargent notes a telling finding in the Pew poll: “A solid majority” of respondents who think President Obama is Muslim “say they ‘learned’ it from the media.” Sarge scratches his head:

    I’m not sure what to make of that. Maybe some voices on the right have succeeded in creating an alternate reality that really is impenetrable. Maybe traditional news orgs haven’t been forceful enough in knocking the lies down. Or, alternatively, maybe there’s a segment of folks who are so distrustful of the “MSM” that they believe the opposite of what it tells them.

    Maybe they read this article, published during the 2008 campaign:

    As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.

    Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.

    His conversion, however, was a crime in Muslim eyes; it is “irtidad” or “ridda,” usually translated from the Arabic as “apostasy,” but with connotations of rebellion and treason. Indeed, it is the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder (which the victim’s family may choose to forgive).

    What right-wing rag published this? The New York Times, of course.

    He’s a Holocaust-Denying Iranian Nuke Nut, but His Money’s Still Green
    The Ground Zero mosque is far from a fait accompli, reports Politico.com, which goes so far as to describe it as a “long shot”:

    The Cordoba Initiative hasn’t yet begun fundraising for its $100 million goal. The group’s latest fundraising report with the state attorney general’s office, from 2008, shows exactly $18,255–not enough even for a down payment on the half of the site the group has yet to purchase.

    The group also lacks even the most basic real estate essentials: no blueprint, architect, lobbyist or engineer–and now operates amid crushing negative publicity. The developers didn’t line up advance support for the project from other religious leaders in the city, who could have risen to their defense with the press.

    This report in the New York Post won’t help:

    The developers of the Ground Zero mosque are refusing to flat out reject cash for the project from Holocaust-denying Iranian nuke nut Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    “I can’t comment on that” was the reply of mosque spokesman Oz Sultan yesterday when asked specifically if the fund-raising would extend to Iran and Saudi Arabia. “We’ll look at all available options within the United States to start.”
    If the mosque plan is really this half-baked–it almost sounds like a mere prank–Barack Obama’s decision to throw the weight of the presidency behind it* is an appalling act of political malpractice.

    * Or behind its First Amendment rights, or however you want to construe his exquisitely nuanced position.

    Obama Really Is a Marxist!

    “Those are my principles,” Groucho Marx once said, “and if you don’t like them–well, I have others.” Politico’s Ben Smith reports that “key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit and instead stressing a promise to ‘improve it.’ ”

    Politico obtained and posted a “confidential” presentation from a group of Democratic consultants, which “suggests that Democrats are acknowledging the failure of their predictions that the health care legislation would grow more popular after its passage, as its benefits became clear and rhetoric cooled”:

    Instead, the presentation is designed to win over a skeptical public, and to defend the legislation–and in particular the individual mandate–from a push for repeal. . . .

    “Straightforward ‘policy’ defenses fail to [move] voters’ opinions about the law,” says one slide. “Women in particular are concerned that health care law will mean less provider availbality [sic]–scarcity [is] an issue.”

    The presentation also concedes that the fiscal and economic arguments that were the White House’s first and most aggressive sales pitch have essentially failed.

    “Many don’t believe health care reform will help the economy,” says one slide.

    The presentation’s final page of “Don’ts” counsels against claiming “the law will reduce costs and deficit.”

    The presentation advises, instead, sales pitches that play on personal narratives and promises to change the legislation.
    How’s this for a sales pitch: “That’s change you can believe in, and if you don’t believe–well, I can change.”

    Lost Kos?
    Markos Moulitsas, the Angry Left’s answer to the Htoo twins, is running a petition drive to abolish the Senate filibuster. Reader Craig Bosworth forwards an email from DailyKos.com and offers this comment:

    This made my jaw hit the floor. Kos is trying to get a bunch of Dems on record as opposing the filibuster, just as the Republicans are about to regain a majority. What is he smoking?

    Actually, Democrats would be better off without the filibuster next year even if the Republicans take a Senate majority. Let’s say the GOP picks up 10 Senate seats for a 51-49 majority and also takes control of the House. Without the filibuster, they could pass legislation with a majority vote in both houses–but it wouldn’t become law without President Obama’s signature or enough Democratic support to override his veto. Without the filibuster, though, the 49 Democrats would be able to pass legislation if they could win the support of one Republican.

    In a filibuster-free Senate, that is, a 49-seat Democratic minority next year would be the rough equivalent of the current 59-seat Democratic majority. One can see why Kos would find this an attractive prospect–though it would be very likely to come back to bite the Dems in 2013 if Obama isn’t re-elected.

  235. confloyd
    August 21st, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    I do. I think she is being forced into this path, after all she doesn’t decide what the fraud wants. As Hillary said, the fraud is a naive ignorant fool

    I really hope Hillary leaves after the dems get their a$$es whooped (as my wife would say) this november.

  236. I just wonder what in the world is going on. She just seemed so robotlike when she was speaking. Makes me think, all of this is being shoved on her
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    I think this is what we used to call a brown helmet job. Meaning a no win proposition. On the one hand how do you say no to this when you are secretary of state and the president asks you to handle it personally? On the other hand, this is a monumental task which will take lots of time and success will be elusive. As such, it puts her legacy at risk. If this had happened a couple years ago it would be different, whereas now it puts a crimp in any plans she might have had to get out. It is not dispositive of the issue, but merely another complication. This was always the problem–how to extricate herself from this Administration without being accused of quitting. The other problem of course is that inasmuch as Obama is a lazy type, it is more probable than not that he will assign someone to oversee her efforts and report back. If that is the case then it represents a further complication, and it becomes the old bird in gilded cage scenario. I am just guessing.

  237. Getting out was never so much a case of why as a question of how. Notice the moment Gates announced his retirement Obama supporters like Gelb start saying Hillary should take the job of Secretary of Defense. This could be interpreted more than one way of course, and the generals do like her better than anyone else in the administration, but this could be looked at again as an attempt by an Obama surrogate to block any challenge she might mount to Obama, or to prevent her from being considered as an alternative if the money men tell him one term is enough and go be historic in some other job.

  238. As such, it puts her legacy at risk. If this had happened a couple years ago it would be different, whereas now it puts a crimp in any plans she might have had to get out. It is not dispositive of the issue, but merely another complication. This was always the problem–how to extricate herself from this Administration without being accused of quitting.

    This is what I am afraid of and Obama and his cronies are setting her up every step of the way. By all counts, she will be successful and in the process she would have rescued him, the good little woman who was prevented from being president but want her to be a loyal worker bee making her boss look good. If she is successful in this, he should give up his nomination to her in 2012, voluntarily.

  239. http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/johnny-rotten-neocon-punk-rocker

    Johnny Rotten, who is widely considered to embody the zenith of punk music and a former singer of the British band the Sex Pistols, issued the following statement to the Independent newspaper about his planned concert in Tel Aviv:

    I really resent the presumption that I’m going there to play to right-wing Nazi jews [sic]. If Elvis-f-ing-Costello wants to pull out of a gig in Israel because he’s suddenly got this compassion for Palestinians, then good on him. But I have absolutely one rule, right? Until I see an Arab country, a Muslim country, with a democracy, I won’t understand how anyone can have a problem with how they’re treated.

  240. Who cares wether he is a muslim or a slice of ring baloney.He has got to go before his path of destruction for America and our democracy is total.It is our job(the people)to get him out of our WH even though he is never at home.It is not Hillarys job to evict him and if she quits she will end up like Palin”A rich quitter”.So lets get off our duffs and make him just an ink spot in our history books.

    Hang in there Hillary we will awaken and clear your path.World leaders want you to deal with not the wandering playboy.

  241. There are certain reactions that are visceral. Men do not mind a strong woman, but they have no respect for a weak man. And that is how Mr. Obama comes across to men. The poet Robert Service summed it up nicely when he said, speaking of the Yukon; I will not be won by weaklings, subtle and suave and mild (Obama), but by men with the hearts of vikings and the simple faith of a child. Women on the other hand are a different story. Many of them I believe do not mind a weak man. And that is why unmarried ones continue to support Obama come hell or high water.

  242. I was sitting here thinking about this whole mosque debate and how it resembles the big push for unilateral disarmament when we were locked in the cold war struggle. In that case, the adversary was the Soviet Union. In this case it is terrorism emanating primarily from Saudi Arabia, which is keeper of the Muslim shrine, i.e. Mecca and Medina and spreading from there throughout the world. In the former case they wanted to engage in unilateral disarmament. In this case, they insist that we must build a mosque on the edge of Ground Zero. In both cases they believed–or claimed to believe that by the power of our own moral example the bad guys would throw down their arms and embrace us, or at least meet us half way. This foolish view is common among elites who are ignorant as swans when it comes to understanding the motivations of adversaries. Typically, they do not want to compromise with us. They do not want to embrace us. They want to subjugate us and if necessary kill us. And I am sorry to say it but kindness and symbolic gestures are not the antidote. You bargain from a position of strength. Reagan knew that and the Soviets knew that he did. Trust but verify became the mantra, and then the other side had an incentive. Obama does not understand this. He projects weakness at every turn and weakness in the form of lying, failing to confront and backing down are noticed by adversaries. Predators sense this in their prey just as they sense it in Mr. Obama. But the problem in trying this approach with militants is something Kissinger said forty years ago which I have never forgotten. These people are not like the Soviets who were concerned about the world as it exists. These people are concerned about the world they want to bring about and which they are prepared to die for. That is the fallacy in thinking that the mosque will make a difference. In the mind of our adversaries it will be a monument to bin Laden.

  243. The answer to the above dilemma is what Hillary is doing–smart power. Not this mosque on ground zero business. But every time she starts to get somewhere Obama gets in the way and sends the wrong signals. Weakness. His ego is the problem.

  244. admin
    August 21st, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Wow. What a great way to put it.

    I wasn’t a Sex Pistols fan, so excuse me for writing this, but I thought that Johnny Rotten had already passed away. Now I am wondering who I mistook for him. 🙂

  245. By the way, that is Sid Vicious in the video, not Johnny Rotten. Sid is the one who died at 21 back in the late 70’s.

  246. “I think this is what we used to call a brown helmet job. Meaning a no win proposition.”

    ———————–

    He has given her Iraq and now the Middle East. What is left for him to do??? He’s screwed up the economy, maybe he’ll figure out a way to make that a state department responsibility as well so he can golf until the cows come home.

  247. I didn’t think Hillary was flat yesterday, a little tired maybe. I thought it was a very serious moment and that she was very presidential unlike someone else we all know.

  248. Barak to Clinton: Prevent flotilla from leaving Lebanon

    08.21.10

    Defense Minister Ehud Barak spoke by telephone to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, US National Security Advisor Jim Jones, and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, and requested that they make efforts to prevent the Gaza aid flotilla from leaving Lebanon.

    Barak called the flotilla an “unnecessary provocation” and clarified that Israel would allow humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza Strip after checks at Ashdod Port. The flotilla organizers announced Saturday they are postponing their departure from Lebanon because of difficulties finding a port to anchor in on the way.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3941031,00.html

  249. Another Obama Vacation – President’s Ninth Since Taking Office

    By Jim Roberts
    Aug 21, 2010

    President Barack Obama needs another break. The president is off for his ninth vacation since taking the job as Commander-in-Chief since taking the job in January 2009. Is he is taking too much time off?

    This ten-day golf retreat comes on the heels of wife Michelle Obama’s extravagant trip to Spain.

    One commentator asks, “Is he tone-deaf?” Certainly one advisor is. “I don’t think there’s an American person who doesn’t know that the president is working hard to do everything possible to get this economy back on the right track,” press secretary Bill Burton told reporters yesterday on Air Force One.

    Burton may need to get out of Washington, DC.

    The Obama poll numbers have dropped considerably, (Gallup has him now at only 42% approval and 51% disapproval on his job rating ) and many US taxpayers are still grumbling about having to pay for travel and security for his wife to see Spain in style.

    A poll from CBS asks “What do you think of the amount of time President Obama spends on “vacation”?

    The answer “too much” wins by a landslide in the online poll.

    http://www.nationalledger.com/ledgerdc/article_272634179.shtml

  250. Admin: excellent video at link if you would post it please.
    __________________________________________

    They won’t build it!
    Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero

    BY Samuel Goldsmith
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    Friday, August 20th 2010

    A growing number of New York construction workers are vowing not to work on the mosque planned near Ground Zero.

    “It’s a very touchy thing because they want to do this on sacred ground,” said Dave Kaiser, 38, a blaster who is working to rebuild the World Trade Center site.

    “I wouldn’t work there, especially after I found out about what the imam said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11,” Kaiser said.

    The grass-roots movement is gaining momentum on the Internet. One construction worker created the “Hard Hat Pledge” on his blog and asked others to vow not to work on the project if it stays on Park Place.

    “Thousands of people are signing up from all over the country,” said creator Andy Sullivan, a construction worker from Brooklyn. “People who sell glass, steel, lumber, insurance. They are all refusing to do work if they build there.”

    “Hopefully, this will be a tool to get them to move it,” he said. “I got a problem with this ostentatious building looming over Ground Zero.”

    A planned 13-story community center and mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, Park51 has exploded into a national debate.

    Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers’ Association, said unions have not yet taken a “formal position” on Park51, but he understands why members would be hesitant to work there.

    “It’s a very difficult dilemma for the contractors and the organized labor force because we are experiencing such high levels of unemployment,” he said. “Yet at the same time, this is a very sacred sight to the union guys.”

    “There were construction workers killed on 9/11 and many more who got horribly sick cleaning up Ground Zero,” Coletti said. “It’s very emotional.”

    L.V. Spina, a Manhattan construction worker who created anti-mosque stickers that some workers are slapping on their hardhats, said he would “rather pick cans and bottles out of trash cans” than build the Islamic center near Ground Zero.

    “But if they moved it somewhere else, we would put up a prime building for these people,” he said. “Hell, you could do it next to my house in Rockaway Beach, I would be fine with it. But I’m not fine with it where blood has been spilled.”

    Spina, who sells 9/11 apparel on his website, said he’s printed thousands of stickers and plans to produce thousands more.

    “They’re going all over the country,” he said. “They got pretty popular fast.”

    Popularity aside, there are some construction workers choosing not to set themselves against the project.

    “Hundreds of guys here are wearing stickers as a sign of protest, but I’m on the fence about it,” said Frank Langan, 50, a site superintendent from Queens working at Ground Zero.

    “It’s a tough debate,” he said. “I sympathize with workers’ position, but at the same time, you can’t single out all Muslims because of a small number of terrorists.”

    Read more:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/20/2010-08-20_we_wont_build_it_hardhats_say_no_way_they_will_work_on_wtc_mosque.html#ixzz0xI8UVymJ

  251. #
    wbboei
    August 21st, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    The answer to the above dilemma is what Hillary is doing–smart power. Not this mosque on ground zero business. But every time she starts to get somewhere Obama gets in the way and sends the wrong signals. Weakness. His ego is the problem.
    _________________________________

    Then again, I believe the footprints with the stub of a low heel on the back of BO’s crisp white shirt are still washable.

  252. “It’s a tough debate,” he said. “I sympathize with workers’ position, but at the same time, you can’t single out all Muslims because of a small number of terrorists.”

    WTH? The imam who wants to build this Ground Zero Victory mosque said on Sept. 30th, 2001, just NINETEEN DAYS after 3000 innocents were murdered, that “Bin Laden was made in America” and “US was an accesory to 9/11”

    And this site superintenant cannot understand why thousands of hard working Americans will not work on this ground zero mosque under any condition?

    This is not about building mosques, it is about building this mosque at this hallowed site by this imam.

  253. Thanks for that quote from Johnny Rotten Adm. Costello is a complete hypocrite, along with many others from the entertainment field. The boycotting of Israel(delegitamizing Israel so the world with stop all trade, commerce, etc) is the ultimate non-military threat to her survival). These so called “artists” are cowards and frauds(the same kind that run liberal universities and are divesting themselves from Israel), while ignoring the patent barbarism going on in the Arab/Muslin world.

  254. The Flintstones are on another vacation at Martha,s Vinyards.Sour Grapes for the residents.They even brought the WH chef along.Hail to the thief and say “No MO and BO Gotta Go”

  255. Seems like I’ve heard a lot of people say the US CIA made a mistake in the 1980s by financing Osama Bin Laden and trengthening the Taliban.

  256. WTH? The imam who wants to build this Ground Zero Victory mosque said on Sept. 30th, 2001, just NINETEEN DAYS after 3000 innocents were murdered, that “Bin Laden was made in America” and “US was an accesory to 9/11″
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    I agree Tim. For those who think this is a tough debate, lets make it easy for them. Lets everybody invoke religious freedom and tell them we won’t build the damned mosque, it against our religious principles that other people build it too, so if they try we will exercise our freedom of speech to dissuade contractors from delivering and our freedom of assembly rights to slow down the operation and create cost overruns and if the CNN reporter asks why we are doing this we can tell him or her it is a matter of conscience and have the cement truck pour cement over the reporter and thus erect a monument to freedom of speech. There I go thinking like a Teamster. Thirty years around them and it just comes natural. Oh yes and we can fly an inflatable rat over the New York skyline if the Philadelphia local still has it. If you ever go to New York yourself go to the Algonquin where the New Yorker Magazine was founded at the famous round table where my gal dorothy parker held court. Go upstairs where the sleeping rooms are and the wall paper is all cartoons from old issues. One of those cartoons depicts 10000 people in the middle of Time Square holding up picket signs and everyone honoring everyone else’s picket line and understandably nothing moves. That is kind of what I have in mind for this ground zero mosque. In a city that knows thirty ways to con outsiders this should be child’s play. They could do it in their sleep if they want to. And if they did then it would not be so difficult for this decider to decide.

  257. wbboei,

    Cool memories, thanks!

    “One of those cartoons depicts 10000 people in the middle of Time Square holding up picket signs and everyone honoring everyone else’s picket line and understandably nothing moves. That is kind of what I have in mind for this ground zero mosque. In a city that knows thirty ways to con outsiders this should be child’s play. They could do it in their sleep if they want to.”

    ==================

    Yup. So maybe they don’t want to. Maybe 53% of Manhattanites want a swimming pool etc to replace that boarded up building. Anyway they did in the Marist poll for “August 2010”. (31% opposed, 16% unsure)

    Most of the comments I’ve seen from Manhattanites are making fun of the idea that the old Burlington Coat Factory is ‘in’ or ‘near’ ‘Ground Zero’ — as well as the idea that ‘Ground Zero’ is somehow hallowed.

    From a recent photo showing the ‘ground zero’ area now full of construction equipment, the New Yorker should do a cover showing the equipment going in circles unable to agree on what to construct and where. Shopping mall seems to be the most likely now.

  258. Notice the one thing we have not heard? A compelling argument of why this mosque must be in the perimeter of ground zero. Specifically, how would building a mosque at ground zero empower moderate Muslims to dissuade their children from following the siren song of terrorism and allah akbar? Dont lecture to us. Give us facts. And bear in mind that this is an American burial site no different than sacred Indian ground, or Normandy.

    Don’t give us this freedom of religion crap. Nobody is denying your right to practice your religion. And for gods sake don’t try to tell us this is a civil rights issue. Bob Somersby bless his heart eviscerates an urban league celeb who tried to peddle that sophistry in Wash Po. http://www.dailyhowler.com/

    Goddamit make your case. Don’t lecture. Tell us why this will work. Persuade us that we are wrong. Prove to us that this will not be turned into a monument to bin Laden. And promise us that it will not be not be funded by Saudi or Iranian money. Just do it. And maybe then someone will listen. But until you do as Robin Williams so deftly put it–fuck off.

  259. wbboei,

    Cool memories, thanks!

    “One of those cartoons depicts 10000 people in the middle of Time Square holding up picket signs and everyone honoring everyone else’s picket line and understandably nothing moves. That is kind of what I have in mind for this ground zero mosque. In a city that knows thirty ways to con outsiders this should be child’s play. They could do it in their sleep if they want to.”

    ==================

    Yup. So maybe they don’t want to. Maybe 53% of Manhattanites want a swimming pool etc to replace that boarded up building. Anyway they did in the Marist poll for “August 2010”. (31% opposed, 16% unsure)

    Most of the comments I’ve seen from Manhattanites are making fun of the idea that the old Burlington Coat Factory is ‘in’ or ‘near’ ‘Ground Zero’.

    From a recent photo showing the ‘ground zero’ area now full of construction equipment, the New Yorker should do a cover showing the equipment going in circles unable to agree on what to construct and where. Shopping mall seems to be the most likely now.

  260. “Most of the comments I’ve seen from Manhattanites are making fun of the idea that the old Burlington Coat Factory is ‘in’ or ‘near’ ‘Ground Zero’.”

    Most of those “Manhattanites” that you claim to have seen either didn’t live there during and immediately after 9/11, the ones who were effected moved or they just worked here and never lived there in the first place, just commuted.
    However those surviving firefighters, etc, still serve that area and still remain scarred from this terrorist act, and will be all of their life. And there are thousands others who were not even NY residents who were murdered that day. They are the real victims, and their voices takes more importance in my view than the PR stunt the developers of this ground zero victory mosque want to provoke.

    It is less than 400 ft from ground zero. And so it is a Ground Zero Mosque, and yes, it was deemed to open on 9/11/11, before it was taken down from their website, next, you’ll be telling us it was never called the “Cordoba Initiative” (which has also been taken down from the website, but again just because its no longer on their website does not mean that was not called that or when it was deemed to open on 9/11/11). Park 51, which btw is inaccurate as the address is 45 Park Place. Not sure what significance 51 has, as that is not even their accurate address.

  261. “Most of the comments I’ve seen from Manhattanites are making fun of the idea that the old Burlington Coat Factory is ‘in’ or ‘near’ ‘Ground Zero’.”

    Most of those “Manhattanites” that you claim to have seen either didn’t live there during and immediately after 9/11, the ones who were effected moved or they just worked here and never lived there in the first place, just commuted.

    ================

    Well, many of them begin by saying where in Manhattan they were on 9/11. But doubtless they were lying.

    I’ll look for some quotes, or at least some links.

  262. yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/08/the-ground-zero-coat/

    (Yes, he’s on Journolist. Doubtless me made up all the comments, too.)

    Here are quotes from some comments that made a point of stating their location on 9/11. Most others show familiarity with the area and with local issues.

    At comment 17 I got tired of copying.

    45 Responses to “The Ground Zero Coat”

    —–

    I work at the World Financial Center right across the street from the former WTC site (I really, really dislike the ground zero appelation). I watched the whole disaster from Park Ave in Midtown, and as heart wrenching as it was, and sometimes still is, to those who were affected by it, I think we all need to take a step back. Making the former WTC site a some kind of sacrosanct district has been a mistake from the beginning

    —-

    I worked at the American Stock Exchange (2 blocks away!) on 9/11.

    —-

    I had an office in 2 WTC for a few years, and I still work in nearby buildings occasionally. I agree with MY that the Burlington Coat Factory is really nothing more than the derelict building next to the Amish Market.

    —-
    It used to have a lot of great wine bars and restaurants and much more shopping. After 9/11 many businesses slowly closed and a couple of years later, there were slim pickings if you had to get some food late at night. I still don’t think it has fully recovered.

    —-
    My office is a block and a half from the former WTC site, as it has been since 1989, and before that I was on Park Place a block over from Park51. I had a front-row seat for the attacks. I use the WTC Path subway station every day, but I can honestly say that I never considered my office to be at or even near Ground Zero or the WTC site or the Pile. ….
    And this is something that folks who don’t know the area don’t really appreciate: there really isn’t a “Ground Zero neighborhood.”


    i work in the area ….
    I’d also add that I do think the site of the twin towers is special or hallowed by the deaths of so many on that day. [talks about past years] That said I don’t think these poewrs extend to any (insert number here) block radius of the site.

  263. yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/08/the-ground-zero-coat/

    (Yes, he’s on Journolist. Doubtless he made up all the comments, too.)

    Here are quotes from some commentors who made a point of stating their location on 9/11. Most others show familiarity with the area and with local issues.

    At comment 17 I got tired of copying.

    45 Responses to “The Ground Zero Coat”

    —–

    I work at the World Financial Center right across the street from the former WTC site (I really, really dislike the ground zero appelation). I watched the whole disaster from Park Ave in Midtown, and as heart wrenching as it was, and sometimes still is, to those who were affected by it, I think we all need to take a step back. Making the former WTC site a some kind of sacrosanct district has been a mistake from the beginning

    —-

    I worked at the American Stock Exchange (2 blocks away!) on 9/11.

    —-

    I had an office in 2 WTC for a few years, and I still work in nearby buildings occasionally. I agree with MY that the Burlington Coat Factory is really nothing more than the derelict building next to the Amish Market.

    —-
    It used to have a lot of great wine bars and restaurants and much more shopping. After 9/11 many businesses slowly closed and a couple of years later, there were slim pickings if you had to get some food late at night. I still don’t think it has fully recovered.

    —-
    My office is a block and a half from the former WTC site, as it has been since 1989, and before that I was on Park Place a block over from Park51. I had a front-row seat for the attacks. I use the WTC Path subway station every day, but I can honestly say that I never considered my office to be at or even near Ground Zero or the WTC site or the Pile. ….
    And this is something that folks who don’t know the area don’t really appreciate: there really isn’t a “Ground Zero neighborhood.”


    i work in the area ….
    I’d also add that I do think the site of the twin towers is special or hallowed by the deaths of so many on that day. [talks about past years] That said I don’t think these poewrs extend to any (insert number here) block radius of the site.

  264. Here are quotes from some commentors who made a point of stating their location on 9/11. Most others show familiarity with the area and with local issues.

    At comment 17 I got tired of copying.

    45 Responses to “The Ground Zero Coat”

    —–

    I work at the World Financial Center right across the street from the former WTC site (I really, really dislike the ground zero appelation). I watched the whole disaster from Park Ave in Midtown, and as heart wrenching as it was, and sometimes still is, to those who were affected by it, I think we all need to take a step back. Making the former WTC site a some kind of sacrosanct district has been a mistake from the beginning

    —-

    I worked at the American Stock Exchange (2 blocks away!) on 9/11.

    —-

    I had an office in 2 WTC for a few years, and I still work in nearby buildings occasionally. I agree with MY that the Burlington Coat Factory is really nothing more than the derelict building next to the Amish Market.

    —-
    It used to have a lot of great wine bars and restaurants and much more shopping. After 9/11 many businesses slowly closed and a couple of years later, there were slim pickings if you had to get some food late at night. I still don’t think it has fully recovered.

    —-
    My office is a block and a half from the former WTC site, as it has been since 1989, and before that I was on Park Place a block over from Park51. I had a front-row seat for the attacks. I use the WTC Path subway station every day, but I can honestly say that I never considered my office to be at or even near Ground Zero or the WTC site or the Pile. ….
    And this is something that folks who don’t know the area don’t really appreciate: there really isn’t a “Ground Zero neighborhood.”


    i work in the area ….
    I’d also add that I do think the site of the twin towers is special or hallowed by the deaths of so many on that day. [talks about past years] That said I don’t think these poewrs extend to any (insert number here) block radius of the site.

  265. Found some, but for some reason the post isn’t going up. I’ll duplicate it at
    bemusedoutsider dot livejournal dot com

  266. This has got to be one of the dumbest articles in quite a while. Still guzzling the hopium, this Ignatius fellow:

    Obama the anti-politician needs a political spark

    By David Ignatius
    David Ignatius is a Washington Post columnist

    WASHINGTON — Last January, President Obama made a tellingly unpolitical comment to ABC’s Diane Sawyer: “I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.”

    Obama was talking to Sawyer about his pet project of health care legislation, which already was politically dicey. He explained his approach to governing in the most idealistic terms: “You know, there’s a tendency in Washington to think that our job description of elected officials is to get re-elected. That’s not our job description. Our job description is to solve problems and to help people.”

    I heard Obama make a similar disavowal of politics at a White House lunch for columnists last December, when he defended his politically risky (but generally correct) decisions to bail out Wall Street and the auto industry:

    “If I were basing my decisions on polls,” he said, “then the banking system might have collapsed, and we probably wouldn’t have GM or Chrysler, and it’s not clear that the economy would be growing right now.”

    I turn back to these earlier comments because the country is still struggling with Obama’s views on the right of Muslims to build a mosque near Ground Zero. This was a classic dumb thing to do, politically. A Hillary Clinton, say, would have known instantly that the correct answer is to leave this complex issue to the elected officials of New York City. The White House had taken this position until Obama decided, on principle, that he must speak out for tolerance.

    I think the president is right on the mosque issue (as on health care and his economic rescue efforts). But the larger point is that we truly have a leader who keeps doing the wise thing on policy (assuming you agree with him) but the dumb thing on politics.

    Politicians often like to brag about how they aren’t really political animals but public servants. It’s almost a political cliche, to accompany a craven decision with the statement: “I’m not doing this to win votes, but because it’s the right thing to do.”

    But Obama is different. He truly doesn’t seem to relish politics, in the raw, mix-it-up sense. Most of all, he isn’t needy for public attention in the way our most neurotic and gifted politicians have been — walking outpatients such as Richard Nixon or Lyndon Johnson or Bill Clinton. He doesn’t like red hot; he likes cool and deliberative.

    Obama’s tidy button-down style is clear when you look at those who have prospered in his administration and those who haven’t.

    Let’s examine first the people who got bounced. Adm. Dennis Blair’s biggest crime as director of national intelligence, near as I can tell, was that he talked too much in briefings, inserting what the president thought were personal opinions. Greg Craig’s demise as White House counsel is still a puzzle, given his legal talent, but critics argued that the expansive Craig ran an untidy shop.

    An interesting example of the administration’s ability to shrink large political personalities is Richard Holbrooke, the special coordinator for Afghanistan and Pakistan. Holbrooke’s garrulous style is utterly different from Obama’s, and the White House appeared to be on the verge of dumping him early this year when the secretary of state is said to have intervened. Holbrooke has been on a short leash — not making trouble, but not as effective as he might be.

    Now look at the people who have Obama’s ear: Secretary of Defense Bob Gates, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Hillary Clinton. They’re low-key, low-maintenance personalities who could fit in a moderate Republican administration as easily as this one.

    If national security adviser Jim Jones (another button-down guy) retires at the end of this year, there’s talk he may be replaced by Gen. James Cartwright, the current vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs. His precise, laser-sharp briefing style has impressed Obama. And Obama has ended up embracing Gen. David Petraeus, perhaps the greatest briefer in modern times, who could rival Obama in a Mr. Cool contest.

    Maybe Obama, the anti-politician, really doesn’t care if he gets re-elected, so long as he’s doing what he thinks is right. Somehow, I can’t imagine this breakthrough president stepping aside to write law-review articles. But to stand a chance in 2012, he’s going to need someone to light a fire under him, someone who can play politics fiercely — and also can bring in some new voters.

    Surely it’s obvious that I am describing Obama’s second-term masterstroke: Vice President Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    ********

    Yeah, that’s close, Ignatius. Like HRC is about to disappear into VP for the benefit of o.

  267. Visit the Wall in Jerusalem

    I refused to visit the wall when I was in Jersulem because it is partitioned…..women separated from me….and the men’s side nicer…..but that is typical of orthodox jews. I am a reform jew and believe strongly in the equality of women.

  268. 1. “I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.”
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    How about door 3: a bad president who gets impeached before completing his first term? If he is the best they have at Washington Post (who is simply a featured columnist unless I am mistaken
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    3. “If I were basing my decisions on polls,” he said, “then the banking system might have collapsed, and we probably wouldn’t have GM or Chrysler, and it’s not clear that the economy would be growing right now.”
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    And whom do you suppose fed him that line? And besides, what else can he say?
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    3. comment: Ignatius 60 has been a fixure at WashPo for years. He talks and talks and talks and says basically nothing. He is reputed to be a conservative and he is in the same sense that Olympia Snow is a republican stalwart. One thing is pretty clear in reading a number of articles on him including the one at Crooks and Liars and National Review is that he has been given special access by the Obama Administration since the first of the year, and possibly before that too. And essentially he parrots the party line and says nice things about Obama. For example, he is one of the small number of journalists whom Hillary has given a private audience to on Administration strategy. In my opinion, he is the kind of journalist who adds little of substance to the public understanding and can be led along by an administration through press releases. He is not a jurnolister but it is probably an oversight. He will never challenge the administration and that is perhaps his greatest weakness.

  269. Gov. Jennifer Grandholm, Democratic gov. from MI is on MEET THE PRESS with Dick Armey (R). She said her state has the most Muslims in the country and she spoke with an iman om MI who said that the guy who is trying to build the Mosque of Doom is a great moderate Muslim who is trying to build a bridge between Muslims and Americans. Apparently Gov. is a big supporter of the Mosque of Doom.

    David Gregory and Grandholm are attacking the Tea Party. Armey is doing a good job of combating their comments.

  270. I don’t need to know David any better than I do which is not at all to know Ignatius and his ilk. If you walk into his office at WashPo I can pretty much guarantee you there is a wall of photos of himself and various presidents. I can also guarantee you that he is a token conservative, and the people say David is really nice and as conservatives go he is not so bad. You can assume he has children who went to Ivy League institutions, a small cult following that read his novels and a nice home in Chevy Chase or someplace like that. He is a real man of the people alright. Now if you went into Krauthammers office, I sincerely doubt you would see those kind of vanities. But then again, you may not always agree with Charles but unlike David he is a conservative and is willling to make waves when the situation calls for it.

  271. trying to build a bridge between Muslims and Americans?
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    I did not realize he was trying to build a bridge. I thought he was trying to build a mosque at ground zero. And how exactly does he intend to build that bridge? By saying that Americans are complicit in terrorism as he did after 911? I still say forget about the rhetoric and follow the money.

  272. jbstonesfan
    August 21st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
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    Thanks very much. I was at the wall in my early twenties and was in complete awe of the history of this holy place.

    As far as the women not being allowed to pray in the same place, in one way I agree with Carol, but I grew up as an orthodox Jew and at the synagogue we attended on holy days, the men and their sons sat in the middle and the women and their daughters sat on the sides.

    I keep thinking that in comparison to certain Moslum customs, this one is fairly tame.

  273. They can double team Dick Armey all they want. They are not going to get around him. And you know what? And as democrats go they are stupid to do it. There are elements within the tea party movement who want to maintain their independence from both parties, but when one party attacks them and the other defends them they will be co opted. Grandholme wants votes from the Arab community, and Gregory is too dumb to spit.

  274. Experts: Iran not so close to bomb

    While Jerusalem expresses its concern over historic activation of Bushehr nuclear reactor, Israeli researchers explain facility really a Russian achievement, say Tehran will find it difficult to deceive Moscow and use nuclear waste to develop weapon

    Dudi Cohen
    08.22.10

    The historic activation of the Iranian nuclear reactor in Bushehr on Saturday was indeed an important move forward in the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program, and theoretically the facility could be helpful in Tehran’s efforts to attain a nuclear weapon, but experts believe it will not be able to do so.

    The move evoked a protest and expression of concern on Israel’s part, but according to the experts, the Iranians would find it difficult to deceive the Russian inspectors and use the facility’s nuclear waste to create a bomb.

    The facility’s activation was a historic movement, in which Iran joined the list of countries in possession of a nuclear power station. The reactor was inaugurated after decades of construction and preparations, with the nuclear fuel loaded under the supervision of technicians from Russia, which has helped Iran build the facility since the 1990s.

    Nonetheless, it will take several months before the reactor starts producing electricity. The Russians are expected to continue examining the site in the future as well, while making certain that Iran will not use the nuclear waste to create an atom bomb.

    Dr. Ephraim Asculai, a senior researcher at the Institute for National Security Studies, explained to Ynet that even if the Iranians wanted to use that waste to develop a weapon, it won’t be simple to deceive the Russians.

    “Fuel is not something you put in and remove easily. One-third of it will come out a year later and this is done under full supervision,” he said. “It’s a complicated operation which takes several dozen days, and the inspectors and the Russians will naturally be there.”

    According to Asculai, “Even when the fuel is outside the reactor, you need a big separation plant. It’s a long, complicated and dirty chemical activity, and at the moment there are no signs that Iran is building such a plant.”

    In accordance with the agreement signed between Iran and Russia, Moscow will provide Tehran with the nuclear fuel and get in back later under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    ‘Russia wants to control nuclear neighbor’
    But who will guarantee that the Russians indeed prevent Iran from using the nuclear waste for military purposes?

    According to Prof. Amnon Sela of the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, “Russia has no interest to turn Iran into a military nuclear country. They are too close to Iran geographically, and Russia has no need to have an uncontrollable nuclear neighbor.”

    Sela explained that apart from the money Russia is getting for the Bushehr reactor project, it is also using its involvement to gain power as a mediator in the ayatollah regime’s nuclear activity on behalf of the United Nations and the world.

    At least in terms of the diplomatic battle against Iran, Israel appears to be a lone voice. Russia, whose interests are clear as the country supporting the reactor, has stressed in recent days that it would help keep Iran away from nuclear activities aimed at producing a weapon, and the United States admitted Saturday that the reactor was not a proliferation risk.

    US State Department spokesman Darby Holladay stressed, however, that the reactor “underscores that Iran does not need an indigenous enrichment capability if its intentions are purely peaceful.” Tehran has been claiming all along that it is enriching uranium in its nuclear facilities in order to provide nuclear fuel for its future reactors.

    And yet, Dr. Asculai believes that the Bushehr reactor fails to strengthen the Iranian stand, that its nuclear program has peaceful purposes. “This project stands for itself and is not related at this stage to any other project in the Iranian nuclear lineup,” he said.

    Iran will likely use its first nuclear-related achievement for its own needs, but according to Asculai, this is in fact a Russian achievement, as Russia is the country operating the reactor. “This proves nothing in terms of the Iranian control of nuclear capabilities,” he stressed.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3941340,00.html

  275. JanH
    August 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
    Experts: Iran not so close to bomb
    __________________

    Thanks for posting this article. As it reinforces what we already knew as straight up logic. Russian scientists are at the helm of this project and reporting back to their Russian superiors their progress and will continue to oversee their nuclear development for commercial purposes not WMD’s.

    Shame on you John Bolton.

  276. “are elements within the tea party movement who want to maintain their independence from both parties,”

    wbboie, you nailed it! As a former democrat, I find myself agreeing with Dick Armey on many many things, but I am no longer a dem or a repub.

    As for Jennifer Granholm, what a amazingly ignorant woman, I am frankly embarassed at what the party of JFK has now become.

    As Pat Cadell says, the party is no longer the party of the common man, its a ruling arrogant condecending elitist class calling everyone an idiot, a racist, an ignoramus, “don’t know what’s good for us” if they disagree with them.

    Been a dem for over 3 decades, almost 4 decades now, I will never call myself a democrat again, frankly they disgust me.

  277. here we go again, now I’m “ignorant” for opposing the Ground Zero Victory Mosque

    ENOUGH!

    Henican On Mosque: Pundits Shouldn’t Be As ‘Ignorant’ As Other Americans

  278. By David Ignatius
    David Ignatius is a Washington Post columnist
    Now look at the people who have Obama’s ear: Secretary of Defense Bob Gates, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Hillary Clinton. They’re low-key, low-maintenance personalities who could fit in a moderate Republican administration as easily as this one.

    ===========

    ??????????? A bot calls Hillary low-key?

  279. Agents with limited authority and a wide gulf between their respective positions and a limited timetable, although deadlines are always useful or else the discussions continue on indefinitely. Except in a time of war, foreign policy successes carry little or no weight in elections. The same cannot be said, however, for foreign policy failures, like Afghanistan.

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    Top news: According to U.S. officials, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will announce today that Israeli and Palestinian leaders have agreed to return to direct negotiations for the first in 20 months. President Barack Obama is expected to invite both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Mahmoud Abbas to Washington in early September to kick off the talks. Both sides have agreed to a one-year time limit for the negotiations. The Obama administration had been anxious to restart talks before Israel’s 10-month moratorium on settlement construction expires on September 26.

    Despite the confidence in Washington, both Israeli and Palestinian officials say they are waiting to study the U.S. invitation before agreeing to take part in talks. Israel has rejected any preconditions for talks, such as a further halt in settlement construction, and Netanyahu’s fragile right-wing coalition may make it difficult for him to agree to concessions. Abbas, meanwhile, needs the support of the Palestine Liberation Organization and other Arab states before entering into direct negotiations with Israel.

  280. wbboei
    August 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
    WTH? The imam who wants to build this Ground Zero Victory mosque said on Sept. 30th, 2001, just NINETEEN DAYS after 3000 innocents were murdered, that “Bin Laden was made in America” and “US was an accesory to 9/11″

    The imam of the Ground Zero mosque said that?!

    You would have to be a Chomsky-ite to think that this guy is moderate!

  281. Maariv: Emanuel told Dermer “don’t f–k with me”

    In this Friday’s Maariv, senior diplomatic columnist Ben Caspit speculates on where the diplomatic process, and US-Israeli relations, are headed. For color, he gives us this:

    August 21, 2010

    September at the gates

    Anyway, September starts soon. The [settlement] freeze is ending with a bang. Construction will restart at full pace. The bulldozers will swarm the hilltops. Is there any way to bypass this minefield? Probably not. Even if Abu Mazen relents in the next few days and direct talks between us and them finally begin, it’s clear that renewal of construction will halt everything. And if the construction renewal doesn’t do it, then the negotiations themselves, where the parties are as far apart as Galant and Ashkenazi will.

    The question is, what will the Americans do? The congressional elections are in November. After them, Barack Obama will be less restrained. And still, it’s unclear whether he’ll be free to see to us. The current change in his attitude is politically motivated. Very many Senators and Congressmen [sic] swarmed Washington [sic] and begged the President to loosen the leash and let Netanyahu be (otherwise the Jewish donors will close their pockets.) After the elections, all that will disappear.

    Will Obama present an American peace plan? Will a bridging document be placed on the table? That question does not yet have an answer. Not in Washington either [sic]. Obama will have to decide what he prefers: A second term, or to get into the history books and make peace in the Middle East. In both cases, the returns are not certain. But the first option, taking his hands off the conflict and focusing on a second term, is easier.

    In any case, the real US attitude towards the Netanyahu government hasn’t changed. Inside the room, nothing has changed about how the two parties regard each other. Both parties. This is exemplified by the following story: A little while back, Rahm Emanuel paid us a visit. A family visit, on the occasion of his son’s Bar Mitzvah. Still, Emanuel conducted some [working] meetings in Jerusalem. In the Prime Minister’s Office, among others. With Netanyahu’s Diplomatic Adviser, Ron Dermer, among others. The meeting was held at one of the offices in “the aquarium” [the Prime Minister’s suite]. The tone was not amicable. At some point, it turned into shouting and cursing. Emanuel, as he regularly does, used obscene language. Don’t f–k with me for example.

    That word, f–k [transliterated into Hebrew in the original], which is off-limits in the American media, appears in every second sentence Emanuel utters. Whoever translates it, does it at his own risk [I guess that refers to yours truly in a roundabout way — DR]. Dermer, by the way, gave back as good as he got. Emanuel was angry, he claimed, because Dermer briefed certain Americans, Jewish and non-Jewish, against the President and and Emanuel himself. The ruckus at the meeting was bad and hasn’t leaked until now. Afterwards, Bibi went to Washington and everything calmed down.

    The question is, what will happen after November. Will Emanuel remain in his position? Will the President still be in an historic [sic] mood. From Netanyahu’s perspective that’s an existential question. At least two of his confidantes have been inquiring over the past few weeks, very discreetly, “who can be Defense Minister” instead of Barak. They’re also beginning to take into account that Labor’s path in the government may come to an end at some point.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://coteret.com/2010/08/21/maariv-emanuel-told-dermer-dont-fuck-with-me-expletive-not-deleted

  282. A bot calls Hillary low-key?
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    Turndown, I do not think of him as a bot so much as a RINO who sold out his journalistic principles in exchange for access and influence. In some respects that is worse, but it is a fausian pact however you choose to look at it. I was being facetious when I said he is a jurnolister. He has too much faux gravitas for that, plus he is from the wrong generation. Oh there were a few old men on that list like Bomber Bill Ayers buddy Todd Gitland who has a summer home on the red planet of Mars, but by and large these are young pups like David Sirota, Stewart Ackerman about whom the old saying goes ah youth ah wilderness. They have very little experience in the trials and tribulations of life and their articles have the smell of the lamp to them. But like Ignatius, they too have been bought by this Administration, only at a much cheaper price.

    As for Hillary this is part of the good little woman meme that Axelrod and others are promoting. That is thoroughly disgusting. But there is another wrinkle to it too. If you look at Holbrooke what you have is a Hamlet type who struts and frets his hour on the stage and worries out loud about a time when he is heard no more. What I told my friend the other day is that they want Hillary handling this personally because it may well fail, and even if it does not, he will claim the credit. In addition, they know she is keen to succeed in this project and make a middle east solution part of an enduring legacy only if it does succeed he will steal it. And it imposes an opportunity cost on whatever plans she might have to ever seek the presidency. They also know that Hillary is a policy wonk and will be keen to succeed on a project which Carter commenced and her husband nearly completed a lifetime ago. This is not a good situation. I know what Pateaus said, but I still say this does not matter to Americans. We need to bring our troops home.

  283. JanH
    August 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    That Emanueal really is a Piece of ya know what, no wonder Hillary had to clean up after him when Bill was president. I pray and hope Hillary leaves this admn after the midterms, this whole mideast “peace” meeting just has disaster written all over it, and when it crashes, Hillary will be blamed.

    I really hope Hillary leaves this scumbag administration, she will be tainted by it, no matter how hard she tries to distance herself.

  284. tim,

    I agree completely. I just hope that American Jews are not taken in again. I also think that a petition should be started to expel Emanuel from the Jewish race.

  285. This will be the defining issue in the 2012 election. No jobs. Not for average Americans. Before that we may well see a gotterdamerung. It is worrisome, but nobody in power seems to be worried. Amazing. Just business as usual and more payola to black professionals and labor unions. When Bush was in the payola went the other way to religious conservatives and politically connected contractors. The middle class and people over 50 are being financially destroyed. That is where the revolution will come from I suspect. What precise form it takes remains to be seen.
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    Jobless Venom
    By John Batchelor on August 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM in Current Affairs

    Madeleine Lim, DowJones, tells colleague Simon Constable that the corporations will not hire until there is a solution to Regime Uncertainty — chiefly taxes to pay for the deficits as well as the healthcare and the FinReg geniuses.

    This is an official observation by a professional who is paid to describe certainty to the markets, and to identify uncertainty where it exists.

    The Obama administration has been weakened by its stubbornness to spend (stimulus and bailouts) and pretend (mortgage adjustments, mortgage purchases, Fannie/Freddie zombiehood), a simple political calculation aimed to get to the election with the jobs-created number improving month to month.

    Spoke Joseph Brusuelas, Bloomberg, who says the GDP downgrade by JP Morgan Chase to 1.5% or so for the remainder of the year means that we are looking at the risk of a decline in jobs again in 2011.

    Instead of adding the needed 150-200K jobs per month in the fourth quarter, we will add 50-100K, and this means that we are shrinking the employed because it does not account for population growth — all the demand for jobs from the young joining the workforce.

    Next year, the jobless rate, measured by household survey, will likely climb above 10%. Expect noisy, paradoxical, venomous revolution by August 2011, cheered by a GOP Congress.

  286. Some perspective from a real Manhattanite:

    I live in Greenwich Village and used to work 2 blocks from the WTC on 9-11. Alot of New Yorkers referred to the site of the attacks as Ground Zero while it was still a smoldering pile of misery. At some point, perhaps around the time that the clean-up of the site was finished, almost all New Yorkers switched to referring to it as either the World Trade Center Site, or simply reverting back to World Trade Center. Nobody outside of FNC headquarters in this city calls it ‘Ground Zero.’ If you’re a tourist in Manhattan and go up to a local and ask for directions to ‘Ground Zero’ I can almost guarantee you their response will be something along the lines of ‘You can get to the WORLD TRADE CENTER by blah blah blah.’ There’s something macabre and maybe even trivializing about people’s insistence on calling the site Ground Zero. So anyway, when this controversy first flared up, it was obvious to me and everyone around here that it was the work of outsiders, simply by the language that was chosen. New Yorkers cringe at that word Ground Zero, it always seemed like it was forced on us by outsiders, and now it’s happening again.

  287. JanH
    August 22nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Yes. My SIL, who is jewish, another lifelong democrat who is now an independent, tried so hard in 2008 to reach the people who went to her synagogue, they in majority voted for the fraud. I think they were taken in by people like Ed Koch vouching for the loser in the WH.

    My SIL now tells me, people, at least in her synague, are abosultey livid, and she just calmly says why they thought the fraud would be different? He sat in a church listening to anti-sematic nonsense, he praised Khalidi, who hates Israel.

    At least the people in that synagogue are now awake. When people show you who they are by who they hang out with, believe them.

  288. That Emanueal really is a Piece of ya know what, no wonder Hillary had to clean up after him when Bill was president. I pray and hope Hillary leaves this admn after the midterms, this whole mideast “peace” meeting just has disaster written all over it, and when it crashes, Hillary will be blamed.

    I really hope Hillary leaves this scumbag administration, she will be tainted by it, no matter how hard she tries to distance herself.
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    Amen.

  289. Hillary will be called “low key” until they need a scapegoat when this all falls apart, then she will be blamed, front and center.

  290. it was obvious to me and everyone around here that it was the work of outsiders, simply by the language that was chosen. New Yorkers cringe at that word Ground Zero, it always seemed like it was forced on us by outsiders, and now it’s happening again.
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    Yes. On one level it is really a battle between those who want to forget what happened because it is too painful or just not relevant in their lives, vs. those who want to remember because they understand what a thousand year war looks like.

  291. Hillary will be called “low key” until they need a scapegoat when this all falls apart, then she will be blamed, front and center.
    ————————
    Correct. And so we are clear on how the deck has been reshuffled here the original thinking was that George Mitchell would supervise these negotiations based on his success in Ireland and if he failed then Holbrooke would step in, and if he failed then there was always old reliable Dennis Ross. But now, suddenly, it is Hillary.

  292. wbboei
    August 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    bingo! yes, those people live there, but they lose anyone? were any of their friends or family members murdered that day? people on those 2 planes, and the other 2 place in DC and PA.

    and 9/11 did not just affect NYC, it was the nation that was attacked.

    and this imam is more intent and saying and defending Islam than condemning terrorism. There is another organization, “Islamic center for Democracy”, they just want to practice Islam in peace, and strongly condemn terrorism and Shariah law.

    While on the other hand the defenders of this ground zero mosque are part of the “Center for Advancement of Islam”, what the hell do people think this means? They want to ADVANCE Islam, not just integrate into America, but advance Islam in America.

    The second is the what the Shariah-loving imam of the ground zero victory mosque wants to advance. The American people have figured this out and so 70% disapprove with it!!!!

  293. rumor has it the (R’s) will be running Patraeus for president in 12′. If BO claims a return to the OO unopposed in a primary, he will lose to the General. If Hillary makes primary bid in 12′ against BO and wins, I believe the General will concede to her early on or give her a smooth run to the WH.

  294. “Hillary will be called “low key” until they need a scapegoat when this all falls apart, then she will be blamed, front and center.”

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    So what are her choices now?

  295. from a commenter at Althouse.. When will this charade of Obama’s catch up?

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    According to the Army Times … combat brigades are being “renamed” and returned to Iraq from Kuwait.

    The total number of U.S. soldiers will remain essentially the same. Nothing has changed except the branding of these soldiers by the media. This was necessary for the media to claim that Barack Obama has kept a campaign promise to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months of being elected, when he has not done so and will never do so.

    Barack Obama is a liar and Democrats should not vote for him since he’s a warmonger and drone murderer.

    Sources:

    Army Times
    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/08/dn-brigades-stay-under-different-name-081910/

    Newsweek
    http://www.newsweek.com/2009/02/25/reality-on-the-ground.html

  296. from a commenter at Althouse.. When will this charade of Obama’s catch up?

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    According to the Army Times … combat brigades are being “renamed” and returned to Iraq from Kuwait.

    The total number of U.S. soldiers will remain essentially the same. Nothing has changed except the branding of these soldiers by the media. This was necessary for the media to claim that Barack Obama has kept a campaign promise to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months of being elected, when he has not done so and will never do so.

    Barack Obama is a liar and Democrats should not vote for him since he’s a warmonger and drone murderer.
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    {links on next comment}

  297. I’m confused, what about the troops that left Iraq?

    The MSM kept saying “Last of the combat troops” leaving Iraq. So, the remaining will just be renamed but the number of troops there will be the same?

    And God bless all who put themselves in harm’s way, irregardless of support or against the Iraq war, the troops and the family deserve the country’s support. Just read on HillBuzz that Code Pink told a mom who lost her son that “her son deserved to die”
    http://bigpeace.com/dlee/2010/08/21/code-pink-tells-gold-star-mom-your-son-deserved-to-die

  298. According to the Army Times … combat brigades are being “renamed” and returned to Iraq from Kuwait.
    The total number of U.S. soldiers will remain essentially the same. Nothing has changed except the branding of these soldiers by the media.

    ==================

    That would be a great point worth making. But I don’t see evidence for “essentially the same” in the Army Times or the Newsweek cites. Of course they may be covering for Obama’s re-labeling.

  299. “But I don’t see evidence for “essentially the same” in the Army Times or the Newsweek cites.”
    *********
    Maybe I need help with my reading comprehension:

    (snip)
    “There are seven Advise and Assist Brigades in Iraq, as well as two additional National Guard infantry brigades “for security,” said Army spokesman Lt. Col. Craig Ratcliff.
    (snip)
    The Army has three different standard brigade combat teams: infantry, Stryker and heavy. To build an Advise and Assist Brigade, the Army selects one of these three and puts it through special training before deploying.

    The Army selected brigade combat teams as the unit upon which to build advisory brigades partly because they would be able to retain their inherent capability to conduct offensive and defensive operations, according to the Army’s security force assistance field manual, which came out in May 2009. This way, the brigade can shift the bulk of its operational focus from security force assistance to combat operations if necessary.To prepare for their mission in Iraq, heavy, infantry and Stryker brigades receive specialized training that can include city management courses, civil affairs training and border patrol classes.

    As far as equipment goes, the brigades either brought their gear with them or used equipment left behind that is typical to their type of brigade, said Ratcliff.
    (snip)
    Of the seven Advise and Assist Brigades still in Iraq, four are from the 3rd Infantry Division, based at Fort Stewart, Ga. The 1st Heavy Brigade of the 1st Armored Division, based at Fort Bliss, and the 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 4th Infantry Division, based at Fort Carson, Colo., are also serving as Advise and Assist Brigades”
    (snip)

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/08/dn-brigades-stay-under-different-name-081910/

    So my understanding the difference between a combat Brigade and an Advise and Assist brigade are “specialized training that can include city management courses, civil affairs training and border patrol classes” and a shiny new name from the Obama Ministry of Propaganda.

    Worse than Bush!!!

  300. SHV,

    What I don’t see is total number of men (ie troops) who were there when Obama took over, vs the 50,000 men that will be left.

    Also the total number of men that are coming home permanently or being discharged — vs how many men are being sent to “the right battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan.”

    Dunno from ‘brigades.’

  301. So here we have it…

    Obama Administration Thinks Road to Tehran Runs Through Jerusalem

    By KT McFarland
    August 20, 2010

    The Obama administration’s point man on Iran’s nuclear weapons program, Gary Samore, said recently that Iran is a year away from having nuclear weapons. And, in an attempt to reassure us all — Israel included — that this isn’t so bad. Samore claims that “a year is a very long period of time.”

    At nearly the same moment, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced that the perennial talks between Israel and the Palestinians are set to begin anew; talks which would result in “the emergence of an independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors.” And, Secretary Clinton assures us, these talks “can be completed within one year.”

    This fixation with a one-year timetable is not a coincidence. It’s the Obama administration’s plan to deal with Iran. They think the road to Tehran runs through Jerusalem.

    The Obama administration, and the Bush administration before it, failed to derail Iran’s nuclear weapons program. So we’re now watching a train wreck in slow motion. The United States (and Israel) will have to come to grips, within the year, of either bombing Iran or letting Iran get the bomb. Either one will be a disaster.

    If we (or Israel) bomb Iran, it will ignite a regional war, as Iran inevitably retaliates. It could do any or all of the following: give Hezbollah and Hamas the green light to launch their large stockpiles missiles on every square mile of Israel; unleash sleeper terrorist cells in Europe and the U.S.; and mine the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of all worldwide oil shipments flow. The price of oil would skyrocket to $400-500 a barrel overnight, and plunge the world into another, even more serious recession. At the same time, the world’s oil producing states would reap windfall profits.

    The job of sweeping the Strait free of mines would fall to the U.S. Fifth Fleet in the Persian Gulf, thus drawing the U.S. into a third war in the region. And, as Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mullen has said, even a successful bombing raid on Iran’s nuclear sites wouldn’t stop their program, but only set it back a few years.

    On the other hand, if we don’t stop Iran’s nuclear program, the entire Middle East will be swept into an arms race – a nuclear arms race. Neighboring Sunni Arab states will not stand idly by and let Shiite Persian Iran dominate the region. They will rush to “nuke up,” too. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on – in the Middle East or anywhere else. And, if the single most volatile, dangerous part of the world is awash in nuclear weapons, it is only a matter of time before one gets detonated – accidentally, intentionally or inadvertently.

    So, what’s the Obama administration’s plan to deal with these horrors? Officially, they say the military option remains on the table. But almost no one believes they mean it, least of all the nations in the region.

    Instead, the administration thinks they can contain Iran, and manage the situation. First, they think if they extend America’s nuclear umbrella over the region, the Sunni states will no longer think it’s necessary to acquire their own nuclear weapons. And in the bizarre world of nuclear theory, the administration thinks Iran will be deterred from ever using its nuclear weapons by the threat that America might use its nuclear weapons in retaliation to an Iranian attack. This raises the question of how credible Obama’s promise to trade Tel Aviv for Texas might be, which is what extending the nuclear umbrella would mean.

    The administration also plans, as one administration official told me, to force an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement and thereby “change the trajectory” in the Middle East away from war and towards peace and economic development. According to this plan, an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement would clock in just ahead of a nuclear Iran, and thereby make Iran, even a nuclear Iran, increasingly irrelevant in the region.

    This raises the question of how easy it’s going to be to force the Israelis and Palestinians to reach an agreement that both sides would honor. It is an issue that has proved illusive since the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, and bedeviled the region for millennia. Secretary Clinton should know better than to predict an agreement in a year’s time. President Clinton came closest to forging a peace agreement and nearly succeeded, only to have the Palestinians renege in the 11th hour. And even if the administration were able to force an agreement, what guarantees are there that Hamas would honor any deal signed by its Palestinian adversary Fatah?

    If containing a nuclear Iran is such a long shot — as surely the administration must know even if officials won’t admit it publicly — then why come out now with this one-year timetable and reassurances that a year is a long period of time? Because in the end, Team Obama thinks the greatest threat to peace in the region comes not from Iran, even a nuclear Iran, but from Israel and a pre-emptive attack on Iran’s nuclear sites.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/20/obama-administration-thinks-road-tehran-runs-jerusalem/

  302. “Team Obama thinks the greatest threat to peace in the region comes not from Iran, even a nuclear Iran, but from Israel and a pre-emptive attack on Iran’s nuclear sites”

    Sadly, this is exactly what Mr. Fraud thinks. The man should have stayed in the IL state senate, he is only going to mess up everything he touches, even worse than Bush, and I cannot beleive Bush looks better now.

    “Senator Mccain and I have a lifetime of experiences, all Obama has is a speech”… Hillary you were so correct then, and that statement applies today as well.

  303. Press is very busy confirming that o is a Christian, but I have yet to hear or read even one mention his Freudian slip with Stephanopolous when he said my moslem faith.

  304. I want to see hard numbers on how many soldiers were there in Iraq when Obama started and how many there are left now. Is that such a hard question for the fucking Big Media to report?

  305. JanH
    August 22nd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    ================================

    I read this comment with interest.

    The Muslim world will never live in peace with those who don’t believe like them. They cannot even live in peace amongst their different factions. The capture of Jerusalem, either through negotiation or war, would be a prize for the advancement of Islam throughout the world. Islam is a belief system based on war and subjugation. No amount of kowtowing to them will change that. Give them an inch, and they’ll try to take the world. They will only be happy once they have subjugated the world to Islam, but even then, their happiness will be found to be illusory.

  306. Regarding the number of Americans deployed in Iraq, let’s hear how many American men and women who are currently in the military will remain there. I don’t care what their titles are. Show us the numbers.

  307. I think the deception about the Iraq numbers is that he promised to bring ALL combat troops out of Iraq but now he is leaving 50,000 of them behind and calls them by a different name.

  308. Here is the bottom line on what Obama has thrown Hillary into. There was a book on interest based negotiations by the Harvard boys, i.e. Roger Fisher and William Ury on interest based negotiations called “Getting to Yes”. I say that so you will appreciate the irony of this piece on the middle east settlement prospects by Donald Horowitz. The final paragraph identifies an alternative path. The one Obama has put Hillary on could result in a train wreck. The one I believe she wants spelled out in the final paragraph is the only sensible one. http://www.the-american-interest.com/article.cfm?piece=864

    (Note: Donald L. Horowitz is James B. Duke Professor of Law and Political Science at Duke Law School and Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, United States. He earned his PhD from Harvard University in 1968 and also holds degrees from Syracuse University. He is a specialist in the study of ethnic conflict and author of the books Ethnic Groups in Conflict (California University Press, 1985), A Democratic South Africa? Constitutional Engineering in a Divided Society (California University Press, 1991) and The Deadly Ethnic Riot (California University Press, 2001). He has acted as a consultant on the problems of divided societies and on policies to reduce ethnic conflict in locations including Russia, Romania, Nigeria, Tatarstan and Northern Ireland. In 2006, Horowitz was appointed to Secretary of State’s Advisory Committee on Democracy Pr
    Prior to his appointment at Duke, Horowitz was employed as a lawyer at the Department of Justice and undertook research at the Harvard Center for International Affairs, the Woodrow Wilson Center, the Brookings Institution and the Smithsonian Institution. He is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
    ————————————————————
    Getting to No
    Donald L. Horowitz

    As proximity peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians appear to give way to a resumption of direct negotiations, the parties will shift their attention from pre-negotiation maneuvering to the substance of the negotiations themselves. When they do, conventional wisdom will reassert itself. That wisdom holds that there is already in existence at least the general shape of a deal to which both sides can agree. It is a modified version of what Yasir Arafat walked away from at Camp David and then at Taba in 2000, what an unofficial group of Israelis and Palestinians presented at Geneva in 2003, and what Mahmoud Abbas failed to answer definitively when it was presented to him by outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in 2008. With some fine-tuning, the chorus of pundits will say, perhaps an agreement can be consummated. President Obama himself said, during Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit to Washington on July 6, that he thinks an agreement can be readied within the year.

    This is an illusion. There are important elements of the hypothetical deal itself to which each of the parties has strong objection. Even if those could be overcome, there are two greater obstacles standing in the way of permanent peace. The first concerns whether the negotiating partners, having agreed among themselves, are able to bring along enough others on their side to make peace. The second is even more daunting: Can either side make a credible commitment to deliver the future—that is, can a peace agreement, duly signed and sealed, really end the conflict once and for all? At this time, the answer to these questions is no.

    Think of the problem as involving three concentric circles. In the center is the agreement itself, consisting of terms based on compromises to which the negotiators can give their assent. In the middle circle are politically influential segments of both sides whose starting views diverge from those negotiating on their behalf. Can they be induced to support an agreement that is far from what they see as optimal? In the outer circle are the spoilers and diehards, those for whom the conflict has an existential element. In ordinary circumstances, a good agreement and skillful implementation tend to marginalize people in this last category, but the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has a special feature that makes the outer ring unusually problematic.

    (Final Paragraph_The Obama Administration needs to return to a less- rather than more-engaged posture, in which it presses the parties to negotiate but does not commit its prestige to full participation in making the agreement. That is a position that recognizes how difficult this process will be and also has the virtue of modesty. Such an approach does not create expectations that, if they are disappointed again, will produce even less faith on the part of the parties in what the other side is ultimately willing to do. It is, however, also an approach that acknowledges the serious possibility that there will be no peace agreement, and perhaps no sustained peace, in the Middle East for years to come.

  309. ‘Ground Zero’ imam not a moderate

    Chad Groening – OneNewsNow – 8/19/2010 4:00:00 AM

    A former member of the Palestine Liberation Organization has monitored Arabic language traffic in Middle East that reveals the controversial “Ground Zero” mosque imam is not a moderate at all.

    Walid Shoebat, a convert from Islam to Christianity who is now an outspoken critic of Islam, recently translated an Arabic language interview conducted by Imam Feisel Abdul Rauf. He believes the imam’s words should be alarming as they indicate what the world will look like if he gets his way.

    The Islam critic explains that the organizer spearheading the Ground Zero mosque outlined his manifesto for the infiltration of secular governments like that of the United States by means of “peaceful lobbying efforts.”

    “What he is suggesting is to make the governors and the political institutions consult Muslim institutions and Muslim personalities like himself…in the field so as to ensure that the decision-making…reflects the spirit of sharia, to make Muslim personalities so they can begin to influence the government and so they can become consultants to the government,” Shoebat reports. “And then they make sure that the laws are within the spirit of sharia Islamic laws.”

    He points out that Abdul Rauf has already taken a step toward his goal by getting a State Department-funded trip to the Middle East to be an envoy for alleged “peaceful” Islam

  310. pm317 said:
    I want to see hard numbers on how many soldiers were there in Iraq when Obama started and how many there are left now. Is that such a hard question for the fucking Big Media to report?

    ===============

    Yes.

  311. Press is very busy confirming that o is a Christian, but I have yet to hear or read even one mention his Freudian slip with Stephanopolous when he said my moslem faith
    ——————————————-
    They are not convincing anyone. Admissions are important and actions speak louder than words. But if they want to say he is a Christian then the question for them is what kind of christian is he. The answer to that question is the kind of christian who spends twenty years in a church which preaches racial and religious hatred. Is that really any defense. Every way he turns he is boxed in and we would not be having this discussion now except for this mosque. And far from distracting us from the unemployment problem it magnifies it because nobody trusts him. I am surprised big media has not changed the subject. The battle for them on this issue is already lost.

  312. A friend of mine just returned from a trip where he met with one of the elites. This man is an American hero and his family goes back to colonial times. He is a real American, as opposed to a rootless cosmopolitan like Soros and Obama. He told my friend I am not worried about the future of my company but I am very worried about the future of my country.

  313. There is a negotiator I know named Jim Thomas. He maintains that in any negotiation, you make your point once and see if the other side agrees. If they do not agree then you may or may not make your point again, just in case they did not understand. But if you keep repeating your point after that all you are going to do is piss them off, and convince them you are not fair minded. That is exactly the position they have put themselves in with Obama. The jury has already decided what they think of him, and more worshipful comments about him by big media is counter productive. There are so many issues they should be addressing now which have substance that it is madness to revisit this issue.

  314. pm317 said:
    I want to see hard numbers on how many soldiers were there in Iraq when Obama started and how many there are left now. Is that such a hard question for the fucking Big Media to report?
    *******
    It is hard to report “facts” when the Commander in Chief is a pathological liar. 25% of oil remains in the Gulf??? According to the govt scientist in charge of the study, the 25% number came from the WH Ministry of Propaganda and the political stooge who heads NOAA throws away whatever scientific integrity that she may have had to support the Fraud. NOAA can’t come up the the “raw” data for at least two months…so these clowns start with the “conclusion” ordered by the WH and then cook the numbers to fit.

    Same deal with the troop numbers. For the Afghanistan “surge”, inorder to make the troop numbers match Obama’s number, they removed 14,000 support troops and replaced them with contractors. By my count, there are still around 67-70,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations. But who the fuck knows.

  315. They are not convincing anyone. Admissions are important and actions speak louder than words. But if they want to say he is a Christian then the question for them is what kind of christian is he.
    ********
    “Religion” is just another distraction. A person with Obama’s psychopathology transcends such trivial identity issues, such as religion. For Obama any religious reference is just like his wife and children; a theatrical prop for the “Obama Show”.

  316. nyt:
    WASHINGTON — Some counterterrorism experts say the anti-Muslim sentiment that has saturated the airwaves and blogs in the debate over plans for an Islamic center near ground zero in Lower Manhattan is playing into the hands of extremists by bolstering their claims that the United States is hostile to Islam.
    Opposition to the center by prominent politicians and other public figures in the United States has been covered extensively by the news media in Muslim countries. At a time of concern about radicalization of young Muslims in the West, it risks adding new fuel to Al Qaeda’s claim that Islam is under attack by the West and must be defended with violence, some specialists on Islamic militancy say.

  317. A person with Obama’s psychopathology transcends such trivial identity issues, such as religion. For Obama any religious reference is just like his wife and children; a theatrical prop for the “Obama Show”.

    ==============

    THere’s support for that in pre-koolaid profiles of Obama. He was raised more or less atheist. Became a ‘community organizer’ sponsored by a church. Other churches wouldnt’ take him seriously. So he shopped for a church to join.

  318. Mrs. Smith,
    If the R’s are going to run Petreas, then they know things will be getting pretty scary by then…after BO screws up everything.
    Hillary would have to go up against a General that will no doubt have an Afganistan win under his belt, even though Hillary did help that situation.
    I really see no way she will be able to run…and its the fault of the DNC…they could have had a 16 year run, but they wanted this nincompoop at the helm during the scariest time this nation has ever known.

  319. a General that will no doubt have an Afganistan win under his belt,
    ********
    Much more likely is that Afghanistan will end both his military career and his political ambitions.

  320. Here’s more on the ‘ground zero’ Greek Orthodox church. They want the Port Authority, which oversees reconstruction at the Ground Zero land, to trade them a site in ‘ground zero’ 7 times bigger than their old site, and to pay $55 million of their $75 million new church. Also of course they need permission from the Port Authority to do ANYTHING at all in the actual GZ area.

    Cordoba isn’t asking Port Authority help and doesn’t need Port Authority permission, because Cordoba is NOT in ‘ground zero.’

  321. Here’s more on the ‘ground zero’ Greek Orthodox church. They want the Port Authority, which oversees reconstruction at the Ground Zero land, to trade them a site in ‘ground zero’ 7 times bigger than their old site, and to pay $55 million of their $75 million new church. Also of course they need permission from the Port Authority to do ANYTHING at all in the actual GZ area.

    Cordoba isn’t asking Port Authority help and doesn’t need Port Authority permission, because Cordoba is NOT in ‘ground zero.’

  322. Sorry my last post went off too soon. This gives more detail of the problems the Greek Orthodox church — and everyone else — have in building anything at the ACTUAL ‘Ground Zero’ site.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/nyregion/03trade.html?_r=4&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/B/Bagli,%20Charles%20V

    The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency overseeing reconstruction
    ….
    On Monday, the Port Authority acknowledged that many parts of the sprawling reconstruction project — including the new PATH station, a 9/11 memorial and several office towers — faced delays of a year or more and cost overruns into the billions. With 26 interrelated projects squeezed onto 16 acres in Lower Manhattan, a delay or dispute at one project is almost certain to create problems at adjoining projects, the report concluded.
    ….
    The church has for several years wanted to build the new St. Nicholas a block northeast of its original home on Cedar Street. But doing so would require trading land with the Port Authority, and an agreement has proven elusive. In the meantime, the church designed a domed marble complex that would be six times the size of its original home, and far more expensive.

    Both St. Nicholas and the Port Authority are eager to resolve the issues quickly, especially since the authority plans to pick a contractor to build the southern perimeter wall for the entire site this summer, and it needs title to the church’s property to proceed. But officials involved in the talks say there remain substantial differences over the size of the church complex and the amount of money the Port Authority will contribute to building it.
    ….
    In keeping with the archbishop’s vision, Mr. Koutsomitis planned for a roughly 24,000-square-foot marble church and adjoining spiritual center at an estimated cost of up to $40 million. But church leaders say they have raised only $4 million. JPMorgan Chase has agreed to give $10 million toward the rebuilding of St. Nicholas, as part of the bank’s tentative deal to build an office tower on the site of the Deutsche Bank building.
    ….
    The church wants the authority to provide roughly $55 million toward the estimated $75 million cost of rebuilding St. Nicholas. The Port Authority in turn wants the church to scale back its plans, move the location slightly and raise more money privately.

  323. Opposition to the center by prominent politicians and other public figures in the United States has been covered extensively by the news media in Muslim countries. At a time of concern about radicalization of young Muslims in the West, it risks adding new fuel to Al Qaeda’s claim that Islam is under attack by the West and must be defended with violence, some specialists on Islamic militancy say.
    —————————-
    Okay fine. Let Harry Reid show his contrition and step down. Obviously he is a muslim hating extremist for saying build the mosque elsewhere. One sacrificial lamb however is enough.

  324. wbboei, I agree with Harry Reid statement above.

    The Boston Herald states this on 7 Aug 2010: …[snip] controversial mosque and Islamic center to be built some 600 feet from Ground Zero[snip]…
    600 feet is close enough for me…and every other rightheaded American. After all, it is closer than Russia from Palin’s house, and closer than November from my house.

    And about The Won being muslim…if it was born a muslim er duck, if it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck, if it says “…my muslim faith,” if it celebrates muslim holidays and not Christian holidays, then how could one doubt that The Won is muslim?

  325. “Islam is under attack by the West and must be defended with violence”

    And they, the peaceful muslims, are wondering why the West is afraid of Islam? What Christians go around saying “Christianity is under attack from the Middle East and must be defended with violence”

    Wanna build bridges?? Instead of being first in line to cry and scream Racist! why the hell aren’t the first in line to condemn the use of violence against non-muslims!

    Seems these nuts who want to build the Ground Zero Victory Mosque want to paint themselves as the victims of 9/11 rather than the actual victims of 9/11 victims whose family, friends, relatives were murdered by radical muslims.

  326. I hope the people who run the Islamic center for democracy stay strong, those are some solid patriotic Americans, who happen to be muslim. They are the muslim voices in America that need to be heard from the most and Bless them for staying strong. Of course they are never brought on TV because they would upset and dispute the LSM’s storyline.

  327. Given how busy she will be, I hope she gets Sundays off at least…

    Food security expected to top agenda at hunger conference in New York
    CONOR LALLY

    Mon, Aug 23, 2010

    MINISTER FOR Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin and US secretary of state Hillary Clinton are to co-host an international hunger conference in New York next month to which up to 190 nations have been invited.

    The issue of food security in the wake of the devastating floods in Pakistan and fires in Russia is expected to top the agenda.

    Mr Martin said he and Ms Clinton had agreed to co-host the conference when Ms Clinton visited Dublin last year. Officials from both nations had been working on the plan since the Dublin meeting to ensure the conference formulates what he called “tangible proposals” to help tackle world hunger.

    The conference, to be held on the fringes of the United Nations general assembly, will take place in five weeks’ time.

    The conference will also hear from leading high-profile campaigners on world hunger, and from global private sector leaders.

    Mr Martin in a statement last night said the events in Pakistan and wheat shortage caused by the recent fires in Russia had added a new focus to the September conference.

    “We are prioritising the prevention of under-nutrition in children under the age of two, as the science shows that children never recover from malnutrition at that age; they never develop to their full potential physically or mentally.

    “And we estimate that about 200 million children are suffering from malnutrition globally. We will call on the international community to work together to respond to this crisis,” he said.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0823/1224277380454.html

  328. M. Zhidu Jasser, this is a very articulate American muslim, a navy veteran, who often speaks for the Islamic Center for democracy. Only Fox News has had him on, no other TV channel, figures.

  329. 22.08.10

    Netanyahu demands talks focus on security issues before borders

    PM on upcoming talks with Palestinians: If we get security ensuring no missiles will fall on Tel Aviv, we will be able to move quickly toward a comprehensive arrangement.

    By Natasha Mozgovaya, Barak Ravid and Avi Issacharoff

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu intends to lead the direct negotiations with the Palestinians due to be inaugurated in Washington on September 2. Netanyahu says he plans to focus on security arrangements before addressing final borders.

    Speaking behind closed doors, Netanyahu said the success of the talks will hinge on understandings between the leaders. “I will want to reach agreed principles with the Palestinian leadership and there will be no need for many teams [of negotiators] and hundreds of meetings …. If I get the security that will ensure that no missiles will fall on Tel Aviv, it will be possible to move quickly toward a comprehensive arrangement,” he was quoted as saying.

    Netanyahu said during his meetings he wants to discuss security issues with the Palestinians first; only then would the two sides focus on borders of a future Palestinian state.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had announced Friday that Israel and the Palestinian Authority would resume direct negotiations for the establishment of a Palestinian state. The talks will be inaugurated at a two-day summit in Washington, which will follow an 18-month lull in the negotiations.

    In addition to Netanyahu and PA President Mahmoud Abbas, U.S. President Barack Obama has invited to the summit Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Jordan’s King Abdullah II, and the head of the Quartet, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    Obama will hold separate meetings with each of the leaders at the White House on September 1, and will then host a joint dinner. The inauguration ceremony will take place a day later under Clinton’s auspices. The event will probably include speeches by the leaders and initial negotiations about the first round of talks, which are likely to take place shortly after.

    Sources close to Netanyahu said on Saturday that most of the negotiations will take place in Israel or the region and not in the United States.

    Both Clinton and U.S. special envoy George Mitchell said over the weekend that the negotiations will aim to reach a permanent settlement and the establishment of a Palestinian state in a year. They said the negotiations will focus on all core issues: Jerusalem, borders, refugees, security, settlements and water.

    Clinton noted that there will be no preconditions – this is considered a major achievement for Netanyahu, who insisted that the direct talks take place unconditionally.

    In her announcement over the weekend, Clinton also did not mention the September 26 expiry of the freeze on settlement construction.

    The Quartet’s announcement also made no mention of the construction freeze or building in East Jerusalem. It just referred to its previous statement on the subject, which calls for a construction freeze.

    The Quartet issued a statement calling for talks that “lead to a settlement … that ends the occupation which began in 1967 and results in the emergence of an independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors.”

    The Americans offered few details at the press conference that followed, but Clinton recognized that there would be obstacles and warned that the enemies of peace would try to foil the talks.

    “As we move forward, it is important that actions by all sides help to advance our effort, not hinder it. There have been difficulties in the past, there will be difficulties ahead. Without a doubt, we will hit more obstacles,” Clinton said.

    “But I ask the parties to persevere, to keep moving forward even through difficult times and to continue working to achieve a just and lasting peace in the region.”

    The chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat, said the Israelis “have a choice now whether to choose settlements or peace. I hope they choose peace. I hope that Mr. Netanyahu will be our partner in peace … and we can do it.”

    The Islamist group Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, dismissed the direct talks as a U.S. attempt to “fool the Palestinian people.” But U.S. officials said Hamas would have no role in them.

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-demands-talks-focus-on-security-issues-before-borders-1.309411

  330. so the Imam’s wife of the Ground Zero Victory mosque in an interview today says the opponents of the mosque are like “Anti-sematies”, and that “they are persecuted like the Jews” have been

    Now, I’ve heard biggest piece of crap ever.

    These people are nuts, I am now convinced, they really think they are the true victims of 9/11 not the actual victims whose family/friends were murdered on 9/11/01

  331. “What I told my friend the other day is that they want Hillary handling this personally because it may well fail, and even if it does not, he will claim the credit. In addition, they know she is keen to succeed in this project and make a middle east solution part of an enduring legacy only if it does succeed he will steal it.”

    ——————–

    wbboei,

    This better not be a win-win situation for obama. He doesn’t deserve it.

  332. tim,

    This is all obama’s fault. His sympathies towards the Muslims and hatred towards Israel shows up again and again. He will let the Muslims use the race card to get whatever they want.

    I would bet that he never expected anyone to attack him over his first speech, the one he gave at the Muslim dinner, about the mosque and 9 11. It blew up in his face, so he had to scramble for his handlers to come up with a “save me” plan. How many times does this make it? I guess the bitter Americans are at it again.

  333. JanH
    August 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    oh yes, doctors taking out kids tonsils, grandpa getting arrested for taking kid to ice cream shop, americans get over 9/11, you are too racist to not allow a ground zero victory mosque

    Obama’s has a lot of experience pronouncing what he thinks is wrong in America and saying who is to blame. That is the expertise he has spent a lifetime developing.
    That is what he does. What else would he do? Hes not even a community organizer, he’s a community agitator, hustler

  334. It is AL-QUEDA who claimed “Islam is under attack by the West and must be defended with violence”

  335. The whole world is watching now. At least Australia is. This is a story in a Sydney paper.

    Al-queda is probably making recruiting flyers out of this.

    news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/rallies-over-mosque-near-wtc-get-heated-20100823-13hg7.html
    The proposed mosque near the former World Trade Centre site drew hundreds of fever-pitch demonstrators on Sunday, with opponents carrying signs associating Islam with blood, supporters shouting, “Say no to racist fear!” and American flags waving on both sides.
    [….]
    Signs hoisted by dozens of protesters standing behind police barricades read “SHARIA” – using dripping, blood-red letters to describe Islam’s Shariah law, which governs the behaviour of Muslims.

  336. I hope these protests will shame the ‘good and moderate’ Muslims to change Sharia law and its most heinous practices. They had better start making those flyers.

  337. let me add one more to the wishlist..

    I hope the ‘good and moderate’ Muslims and their governments go after Taliban and Al-Queda in their countries and get rid of them instead of secretly funding and enabling them.

  338. This is going to be a very bad issue for Democrats.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2010/many_more_now_following_mosque_controversy_and_don_t_like_it

    A lot more voters are paying attention to the plans to build a mosque near the Ground Zero site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York City, and they don’t like the idea.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 85% of U.S. voters say they are now following news stories about the mosque planned near Ground Zero. That’s a 34-point jump from a month ago when only 51% said they were following the story.

    The new finding includes 58% who are following the story very closely, up from 22% in mid-July.

    Now 62% oppose the building of a mosque near where the World Trade Center stood in Lower Manhattan, compared to 54% in the previous survey. Twenty-five percent (25%) favor allowing the mosque to go ahead, and 13% more are not sure.

    Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the Political Class, however, favor building the mosque near Ground Zero. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Mainstream voters are opposed.

  339. I am quite perplexed. It is as though Obama wants a civil war in the country with every faction going after each other, Dems vs. Dems and Repubs vs. Dems, pitting people against religion, race..

  340. pm317,

    I agree. I also think obama’s head is so swollen that he thinks he can say and do anything he wants and everyone will genuflect.

    It goes back again to the “bitter American” remark.

  341. Analysis: Obama stays close to home

    By HERB KEINON
    23/08/2010

    Obama’s talks push stems from domestic concerns.

    Many and varied were the ways the US could have announced the relaunch of direct talks between Israel and the Palestinians last Friday.

    One way would have been for US President Barack Obama, who has invested so much time and energy into the diplomatic process, to announce the talks himself. He could have stood on the storied White House lawn, where so many Middle East ceremonies have played out in the past, and made the announcement in his own inimitable, dramatic fashion.

    But he didn’t. Rather, Obama entrusted the chore to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who made the announcement, and then left Mideast envoy George Mitchell to face the reporters and fill in the details.

    This method of unveiling the talks says much about Obama’s expectations and something about part of his domestic political considerations.

    Mitchell, during his press conference, was asked what happened precisely now – after months of trying – that made it possible for the two sides to restart the talks. What was the turning point? He gave a diplomatic non-answer.

    “We believe it’s the recognition by the parties themselves, by their leaders – Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Abbas – that the best outcome is an agreement which results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and that the only way that can be achieved is through direct negotiations between the parties in which the United States will be an active and sustained participant, and with the full support of our many friends and allies around the world, including, of course, specifically, the Quartet.”

    OK, the reporter followed up, but why – really? Mitchell responded again with more diplomatese.

    What Mitchell did not – or could not – say, was that one of the reasons, though surely not the only one, why the US pushed the Palestinians hard now to relaunch the talks has to do with something far away from either Jerusalem or Ramallah: the upcoming US midterm elections, in which Obama will be struggling to retain Democratic control of Congress.

    Obama badly needs a foreign policy achievement, and – at least until the talks stall, which the US is unlikely to allow until after the November elections – he can point to getting the Israelis and Palestinians back to the table as one such achievement. Granted, it’s not peace in Northern Ireland, but it’s something, and this president needs something, right now.

    That Obama selected Clinton to make the announcement also indicated that his expectations are not over the moon, and that he wants to retain his own little exit ramp.

    Think US Mideast policy over the last 18 months and you think Obama, his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, National Security Adviser James Jones, Jones’s deputy Tom Donilon, NSC chief of staff Denis McDonough, NSC staffer Dennis Ross and Mitchell. But you don’t necessarily think Clinton, whose public role in this process has been rather limited.

    Yet not only did Obama let Clinton make the announcement, but she – not the president – will be there when the talks between the sides actually start.

    Obama will host the principals, plus Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordanian King Abdullah II, for a ceremonial dinner on September 1, but Clinton will do the grunt work by launching the actual talks on September 2.

    This is a good way for Obama to watch and see where the process is headed, before deciding whether to take credit – it if succeeds – or distance himself from it and leave the responsibility to the State Department if it fails.

    There may also be a tactical reason in not getting the president involved intimately in the talks themselves from the very beginning, the way Bill Clinton did during the Oslo years. In this way the US administration will keep the heaviest artillery, the president, for the end, when some serious “squeezing” of the sides needs to be done, rather than “wasting” him at the outset.

    Another reason for what the Palestinians say has been unprecedented US pressure on them to enter the talks has to do with Obama’s continued hemorrhaging of Jewish support.

    Despite Obama’s recent charm offensive that included meetings with Jewish congressmen and senators, his warm welcome of Netanyahu last month at the White House, and an empathetic interview he gave to Channel 2, he continues to lose Jewish support.

    A Pew Research Center poll last week found that while 72 percent of American Jews considered themselves Democrats or leaning toward the Democrats in 2008 – and indeed, Obama captured some 78% of the Jewish vote in that year’s presidential elections – now only 60% characterize themselves as Democrats; as opposed to 33% of American Jews saying they are either Republicans or lean Republican.

    In a year in which there are key congressional and senatorial races in states with large Jewish populations, such as Florida and Pennsylvania, this trend could be extremely significant. It is not unlikely that somewhere lurking in the back of the minds of those in the administration dealing with the peace process was the thought that a renewed peace process right now would play very well among American Jews in places like Boca Raton and Philadelphia.

    This shouldn’t be interpreted to mean that this was the only factor in the administration’s decision to lean hard now on the Palestinians to enter direct negotiations. But one would be politically naïve not to realize that it was certainly one of those factors.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=185649

  342. Some fluff news…

    Bill Clinton Celebrates 64th Birthday With A-Listers in the Hamptons

    By MICHAEL PRESTON
    Mon, Aug 23, 2010

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    Getty Images Former President Bill Clinton basked in the glow family and a group of A-list celebs to celebrate his 64th birthday in the Hamptons, reports the New York Post.

    On hand for the big night were designer Vera Wang, who made Chelsea Clinton’s wedding dress, Katie Couric, “Today Show” host Matt Lauer, and rockers Paul McCartney and Jimmy Buffett.

    The fiesta was held at the home of longtime Clinton aide Doug Band in the town of Water Mill with the food catered by Almond restaurant in Bridgehampton. Bubba’s wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, co-hosted the party.

    The president’s actual birthday was August 19 and he received a call from Sir Paul on which he sang the Beatles 1967 hit, “When I’m Sixty-Four.”

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/entertainment/celebrity/NATL-Bill-Clinton-Celebrates-64th-Birthday-With-A-Listers-in-the-Hamptons-101285969.html

  343. This better not be a win-win situation for obama. He doesn’t deserve it.
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    I see it as a real trap, and I think it is lethal for her. First, the effort is likely to fail, for the reasons suggested by Don Horowtitz. His entire background is in ethnic conflict and he is a world expert in the subject. He says even though the elites most of whom are dilettantes by comparison see a political settlement the fact is it is an illusion and in the end the effort will fail. That gives Obama credit for trying and Hillary blame for failing. Second, she was not the designated referee for this lovefest originally, Mitchell, Holbrooke were the designees. I mentioned Dennis Ross who has more subject mater knowledge than anyone, but as I think about it I doubt he would be acceptable to the Palestinians. It is possible that Hillary was the only neutral acceptable to both sides and here presence lends gravitas to the project. But that does not change the political consequences of it for her, except that it makes it impossible for her to extricate herself as it goes down the tube. I suppose you could say Obama has set it up for a win win and it may earn him a statue somewhere erected by the elite class. But in the minds of the American public struggling with the coming meltdown of our society, our fortune and our lives this is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that our power to influence world events is diminishing by the day, and wherever you look a red dawn is rising in the form of China. If you talk to senior naval planners they are extremely apprehensive. They see a 5 to 1 advantage for China within a few years.

  344. Netanyahu has always been a brilliant politician, speaker and strong voice for Israel. However, because of Obamna’s threats and actions, he has prevented Bibi from attacking Iran to prevent it’s obtaining nuclear weapons. Obama, with the help of many liberal Jews, assuredly has put the wheels in motion for the imminent destruction of our people and the land of Israel.

  345. Obama badly needs a foreign policy achievement, and – at least until the talks stall, which the US is unlikely to allow until after the November elections – he can point to getting the Israelis and Palestinians back to the table as one such achievement. Granted, it’s not peace in Northern Ireland, but it’s something, and this president needs something, right now.
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    That is an erroneous assumption. The only people this matters to are the elites. The American People do not care about this. The writer goes on to admit as much, if only by inference.

  346. Netanyahu has always been a brilliant politician, speaker and strong voice for Israel. However, because of Obamna’s threats and actions, he has prevented Bibi from attacking Iran to prevent it’s obtaining nuclear weapons. Obama, with the help of many liberal Jews, assuredly has put the wheels in motion for the imminent destruction of our people and the land of Israel.
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    That is indeed the concern. A liberal Jew might say the world will hate us if we attack Iran, let the diplomatic process will work it out eventually and if it does not all we have really lost is time. The problem with that argument is that in the long run we will all be dead, Iran will have the bomb, and may indeed use it. If they do, what good does it do to say that the United States will retaliate. The deterrence argument assumes your adversary is motivated by rational deliberations. Also, it assumes that Obama would annihilate an Islamic Republic which seems highly unlikely give his biases. Think back to the raving lunacies of his spiritual mentor Reverend Wright and you will have your answer.

  347. The way he has dealt with the Mosque issue and the perception right or wrong about him as a Muslim sympathizer will color this Israel-Palestine issue in the people’s minds. They will be mistrusting and wonder what he is up to. If he washes his hands off when things don’t go well and if he tries to make Hillary the scapegoat, that will also backfire.

  348. So are these the two goals for obama?

    1/ Destroy Israel

    2/ Destroy Hillary Clinton

    Maybe Tim is right. Maybe she should get out after mid-terms.

  349. Also, it assumes that Obama would annihilate an Islamic Republic which seems highly unlikely give his biases. Think back to the raving lunacies of his spiritual mentor Reverend Wright and you will have your answer
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    Correct. Unlike Hillary, Obama hedged on that question in the primaries.

  350. Just a short quote from Taylor Marsh re the political ramifications of the Mosque. She seems to be neutral about the Mosque, as I am; but her remarks concerning o’s “leadership” are worth reading:

    “Even if Pres. Obama publicly takes a stand, speaking out for the people who are against where the Islamic cultural center is to be built, so much time has passed that it may simply be too little, too late. Leadership is about standing up before consensus pushes you into it, taking heat in the face of adversity and leading people who will follow by convincing them you know the way….

    “the short-term impact of the mosque issue has potential for long-term residual blowback.

    “It’s an emotionally sticky subject that obviously resonates with people across this country, which feeds into the already built-in feeling that Pres. Obama and his administration just don’t get it. That they are out of touch with how Americans feel, but worse, that he’s not listening, just like many feel Pres. Obama and the Democrats didn’t listen on health care either. It leaves the impression of leadership through force instead of representation.

    “Howard Dean is wrong on the mosque issue, but he’s right that the Obama White House just doesn’t get it. Unfortunately, Pres. Obama thinks he’s above explaining it, going into detail on the Cordoba House, thinking that at this late date turning to jobs and the economy will save the Democrats in November, even as things show no sign of turning upward. A hail Mary pass if ever there was one.”

  351. “Now 62% oppose the building of a mosque near where the World Trade Center stood in Lower Manhattan, compared to 54% in the previous survey. Twenty-five percent (25%) favor allowing the mosque to go ahead, and 13% more are not sure.”

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    Moon,

    The issues are piling up for the dims. I hope this bites them good.

  352. If I had to guess, I would say that by the time 2012 rolls around Mr. Obama will be the most hated man in America. This is not entirely his fault, but he is largely responsible for it. This country imputes to its leaders the ability to solve its economic problems when in fact much of it is beyond their control. Holmes was right about that when he doubted the ability to of political leaders to do much to help the economy. On the other hand, those leaders can indeed make the system worse by the policies which they adopt or fail to adopt particularly during a period of crisis. Obama has perpetuated the borrow and spend policies of his predecessor, produced record deficits and added over two trillion to our national debt. He has introduced sweeping legislation which is byzantine in its complexity and he has pushed his own party to sign it without reading it. All this has had a chilling effect on business expansion and job creation as unemployment reaches unsustainable levels. Meanwhile the computer has decimated the management layer in business which existed a generation ago. Illegal immigration is at record levels. In addition to that however, Obama has lectured to the American People, has defiled their traditions, failed to protect their borders, and as they lose their jobs and suffer he lords it over them with lavish vacations, People magazine photo ops and shows them how the other half lives while so many young people and African Americans applaud. This is theater of the absurd stuff. The only thing missing is Mel Brooks to produce it. The end game is inevitable. Obama will be blamed for the catastrophe which will befall us and out of those ashes will come some political figure who is not currently on the stage. The window for Hillary to get out is really the first of the year. Obama will drag EVERY democrat down with him if there is no alternative. In the over 50 set he is already the most hated man in America. It is only a matter of time before that sentiment becomes majority opinion. Pain is a great motivator.

  353. TheRealist said:
    About troop levels in Iraq etc…Congressional Research Service
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40682.pdf

    ================

    THanks. Now maybe someone will bottom line that for us civilians. Counting all men in the countries, not just ‘boots on the ground’.

    And counting US civilian contractors (Blackwater etc)?

  354. The level of contracting services needed to support the drawdown of troops and equipment from Iraq has yet to be fully identified.

    Contractors will continue to provide a wide range of tasks essential for operations and for reconstruction programs, but DoD announced plans for a 30% reduction in overall contractor support (to a force of 75,000) by the end of FY 2010. As of January 22, 2010, USF-I reported 100,035 DoD contractors working in Iraq:

    _ 51,990 third-country nationals
    _ 27,843 U.S. citizens
    _ 20,202 Iraqi nationals

    http://www.sigir.mil/publications/quarterlyreports/index.html

  355. Fineman is at it again…

    The Resurgence of Bill Clinton

    by Howard Fineman
    August 23, 2010

    The former president is stepping out of the shadows again to help campaign for Barack Obama … or is he?
    If you’re President Obama, here is a galling fact: most Democrats would rather have Bill Clinton campaign for them this fall than, um, you.

    “Part of it is that Bill Clinton is, at this point, a sympathetic story and has always been a likeable guy,” says Eric Schultz of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee. “But his appeal right now has to do with the fact that voters associate him with a time of prosperity. You can’t say that about either George W. Bush or, unfortunately, Barack Obama.”

    It turns out that the quality that made Obama special as a presidential candidate—his descended-from-the-clouds, antipolitical, sui generis image—is now making it easier for run-of-the-mill Democratic politicians to separate themselves from his presidency. According to Democratic polls, Democratic Senate candidates are doing much better in the horse race of the campaign than Obama is doing in overall popularity in most states. In Missouri, for example, Obama’s approval rating is 36 percent, but Democratic Senate candidate Robin Carnahan is only a couple of points behind Republican Roy Blunt.

    So into the top-of-the-ticket, presidential-level campaign void has (happily) stepped Bubba, as charming as ever, as sharp as ever at stating his case to voters. Plans are still “up in the air, but expect to see him out quite a bit,” says his spokesman, Matt McKenna.

    As a Democratic campaign operative who spoke on background says, “Somebody’s got to get out and make the case nationally for a Democratic Congress. And who is that going to be? Not Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid. If you’ve got Clinton, you’ve got to use him.”

    And when Clinton is “out” there, don’t expect him to fill his speeches with personal praise of Barack Obama. As a lawyer and salesman, Clinton knows that touting Obama as The One is a nonstarter given the president’s plummeting job-approval numbers. But permit me a moment of Machiavellian thinking to suggest that Clinton loves to be in a situation in which he has to make the Democrats’ case by damning with faint praise a man whose campaign he once dismissed as a “fairy tale.”

    I always love listening to Bill Clinton. If you listen carefully, you can see all the gears in motion: he makes himself clear to people who bother to take him seriously. So what is he saying? That this president has “done a better job than he has gotten credit for so far.” (Which is not the same thing as saying that Obama has done a good job.) And: “All elections are about the future, so what is the alternative?” (Pay no attention to Obama, look at those scary Republicans!) And: “Give us two more years—two more years until another election. If we fail, you can throw us all out.” (Hillary will then be free to pick up the pieces!)

    One other thing to note. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama love to play golf—just not with each other.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/23/bill-clinton-campaigns-for-obama-or-does-he.html

  356. The rumours are flying…

    Chelsea Clinton to Make First Public Appearance Since Wedding

    Monday August 23, 2010

    CHELSEA Clinton will host a 60-minute benefit ride to raise money for the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund next week.

    The former First Daughter will make her first major appearance since marrying investment banker Marc Mezvinsky next Saturday at Soul Cycle’s Bridgehampton studio.

    Bill Clinton will also make an appearance, but it’s unclear whether he’ll pedal. Tickets range from $500 to $5,000 for one of the 71 bikes that are available, according to New York Post gossip column Page Six.

    Recent reports claimed Chelsea and Marc are planning to have a baby.

    During the father-daughter wedding dance at Chelsea’s reception, she whispered in Bill’s ear that she and Marc were going to make him and Hilary grandparents next spring,” a source told American tabloid the National Enquirer.

    “Bill was so happy, tears streamed down his face. Others thought he was just overcome with emotion from the wedding, but it was more than that.

    “He’s dreamed of being a granddad but his health has been failing recently and he doesn’t think he has long to live. Knowing that Chelsea and Marc already have baby plans in the works has given him a real boost.

    “Chelsea was in no hurry to get pregnant just a few months ago. In fact, she was focused on her new career as a health care industry executive.

    “But Bill’s failing health has her so worried, she and Marc agreed to have a baby sooner instead of later because she knows it means everything to her father.

    “She has that pregnant glow about her and has switched to a special diet and exercise program. She is doing all the right things for a pregnant woman.

    “She’s even quit drinking and is planning a nursery.”

    http://www.showbizspy.com/article/211017/chelsea-clinton-to-make-first-public-appearance-since-wedding.html

  357. JanH
    August 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    The rumours are flying…

    Chelsea Clinton

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    WTH???????????

    Bill’s health is failing and he doesn’t think he has much time left?????????????????????????????????????????

    If this were true, Hillary would step down immediately.

    May the Big Dawg live long and prosper, Hillary too.

  358. In case anybody gives a damn, The Fraud’s visit to Martha’s Vineyard seems to have aroused Mother Nature to send wind and rain to the island. The clouds came in with intermittent threats on Saturday, brought light rain and dark skies yesterday morning. By late afternoon, wind began rocking the trees and whistling around the rocks and eaves. Rain is promised at least through Thursday thus cancelling outdoor fun in the sun. Not that he strikes anyone as a nature lover and one wonders why such a person would want to come to this place where nature, not civilization, reigns supreme, but with the water near the visitor’s beach polluted and the weather seeming vengeful, not to mention the cool reception by the residents, we are hoping for news of an early departure.
    A funny thing happened at the bank last week. Vineyarders were quietly queued up for their transactions and the tellers were doing their thing when a woman came bursting through the door, her arms angling in the air, loudly exclaiming, “He’s coming! Obama’s coming! He’s out there! He’s coming up the street now!” A few heads turned to stare at the disturbance and one older woman with an edge in her voice that would cut glass stepped a few inches out of queue to respond dramatically. “Is he attended by celestial choirs?”

    One or two ha-rumphs were heard and a titter or two, but the quiet bank routine continued undisturbed. The woman at the door, suddenly feeling awkward and perhaps embarrassed, abruptly left. After her exit, a Vineyard gent was seen stretching out his arm to offer a handshake to congratulate the woman in the adjacent queue who had inquired about the celestial choirs and then everyone became very cheerful.
    Astonished by the glaring absence of welcome signs, we took a deliberate tour of places on the island where we thought there were sure to be at least a few of them. We saw 2 and a few lame little gestures in shop windows. There were also some flags and buntings, but people often leave those out from Memorial Day to Labor Day. Couldn’t help recalling how home-made signs welcoming the Clintons were EVERYWHERE when they used to come here. People used to mob the intersections—waving their flags and home-made signs – they had to be urged off the roads to prevent injuries and let Clinton’s few vehicles pass. As for the anti-fraud signs we were going to post, there was no need to do it. The island’s atmosphere of gloom preceding his arrival and the silence since then have spoken more eloquently than a few signs could.

    Of course, there are the tourists, eager to return home claiming, “We saw the President!” They got to be on TV, too! Rah-rah.
    If the MSM is making it seem that we turned out for him, it’s all fakery in both words and pictures.

    In the primaries, when the state of MA voted for Hillary, Martha’s Vineyard voted for The Fraud. Vinyarders’ reaction to this visit is very telling. Disgruntlement is heard daily regarding the damned mosque and the economy, The Great Hopey-Changey Disillusionment and, amazing to this lil ole grape on the vine, is that so many people are sounding like they feed off hillaryis44.

  359. This observation is from a democratic strategist who worked for the Bill and Hillary. He is saying what the Republican strategists are thinking and are about to say in a much louder voice. The worst part of it for Obama however is that it cannot be dismissed as racism, ignorance or partisanship which are of course his typical dodges from responsibility. It is true, and people can see it is true with their own eyes.
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    “Why Obama’s Failing,” Doug Schoen, The Daily Beast:

    The net result of Obama’s failed policies is that consumers are reluctant to spend, entrepreneurs are reluctant to invest, and employers are reluctant to hire to the degree necessary to spur economic growth

  360. lil ole grape
    August 23rd, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    In case anybody gives a damn, The Fraud’s visit to Martha’s Vineyard seems to have aroused Mother Nature to send wind and rain to the island.
    ————–

    Yep, I just saw Major Garret reporting from there and there was water on the lens and they didn’t bother to wipe it off or go someplace dry. I wonder why. 🙂

  361. As of September 8, travellers from countries in the US visa waiver programme will nevertheless have to hand over $14 to be allowed into the country.

    The new entry fee is made up of $10 for “travel promotion” and $4 for administrative costs.

    The remaining $10 of the fee will go towards a semi-public promotion fund that was created under the Travel Promotion Act signed into law in March this year. The act aims to boost the US tourist industry, which has been in decline since 2000. The fund will be used to help the industry recover.

    …………………………….

    be prepared to pay money to go abroad now that the US is charging visa waiving countries.

  362. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/august_2010/48_say_obama_s_views_are_extreme_51_say_hillary_is_mainstream

    hahahaha, Hillary beats him again.

    48% Say Obama’s Views Are Extreme; 51% Say Hillary Is Mainstream

    Forty-eight percent (48%) of U.S. voters now regard President Obama’s political views as extreme. Forty-two percent (42%) place his views in the mainstream, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    By comparison, 51% see the views of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as mainstream. Thirty-five percent (35%) think Clinton’s views are extreme. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided.

  363. Ooooooooo, what a showing!

    Uninsured Slow To Sign Up For Coverage

    HACKENSACK, N.J. – Just two people in New Jersey will begin receiving coverage Monday under new plans created by federal health care reforms.

    NJ Protect plans are available to those who have been without insurance for at least six months and submit evidence of pre-existing health conditions.

    The state will receive $141 million in federal subsidies to cover claims that exceed the premiums paid by the beneficiaries.

    Horizon Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Jersey spokesman Tom Vincz expects more people will enroll in the coming weeks.

    Vincz says more than 600 applications were downloaded and 268 information kits were sent out following the program’s announcement on Aug. 1.

    Two policies are available, with premiums ranging from $212 to $768 monthly, depending on age.

  364. At this rate, it could be President Hillary Clinton in 2012

    Monday, 23 August 2010
    BY ALAN J. STEINBERG

    President Barack Obama is a man whose political fortunes have imploded. The national political rock star of 2008 has become the Democratic political albatross of 2010. Democratic candidates in the 2010 gubernatorial, U.S. Senate, and House of Representatives elections are running away from him, not with him.

    Obama’s approval rating reaches new lows every day, due to worsening economic conditions and a foreign policy of appeasement of hostile nations and downgrading of alliances with loyal friends. On the two leading 2010 “values” controversies, to wit, the Arizona immigration law and the Cordoba Ground Zero mosque initiative, the President is definitely on the losing side of public opinion.

    That is not the worst news for Barack Obama. In August, 2011, his political fortunes and prospects may be far worse.

    There are two looming political nightmares for the President. First, a growing number of mainstream economists are predicting a severe recession in 2011. Second, unless the tax reductions enacted during the administration of former President George W. Bush are extended beyond December 31, 2010, the American public will be subjected to the largest income tax hike in American history in 2011.

    If either one of these two situations occur, Obama will be in far worse political shape than he is in today. If in 2011 the American public experiences both a severe recession and a huge income tax hike, there is no way that the President will be reelected, regardless of who wins the Republican presidential nomination. Any of the prospective GOP presidential nominees — Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, or John Thune — would easily defeat Barack Obama under such a scenario.

    The key political question would then be whether Hillary Clinton would challenge Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination. If Obama looks like a sure reelection loser, I suspect that many Democrats would actually favor Hillary mounting such a challenge. She is the one Democrat who could possibly defeat any of the above mentioned GOP candidates if Obama’s reelection prospects become moribund.

    The question then would be how could Hillary Clinton step down from her present position as Secretary of State and then seek the Democratic Presidential nomination against the incumbent President who appointed her. A Clinton resignation from the position of Secretary of State would have to be based upon a fundamental disagreement with President Obama on a major foreign policy issue.

    Such an issue might arise if Israel launches air strikes against Iran’s developing nuclear weapon facilities.

    Obama is less supportive of Israel than any other President since the Declaration of Independence of the Jewish State in 1948. If Israel launches such an attack, Obama will certainly condemn Israel’s actions and maybe even seek sanctions against the Jewish State.

    By contrast, both Bill and Hillary Clinton have been far more supportive of Israel than Barack Obama. Although they both have had disagreements with Likud Party leaders, they remain on very friendly terms with the major players in Israel’s Labor Party. Obama is viewed negatively by an overwhelming majority of Israelis, right and left.

    Furthermore, Hillary Clinton has been far more hawkish than Obama against the Iranian Ahmadinejad government. If Obama were to repudiate an Israeli preemptive strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities, there is a significant chance that this would lead to a Hillary Clinton resignation as Secretary of State.

    If Hillary then defeated Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, she would have at least an even money chance of defeating any of the above mentioned GOP Presidential candidates in the general election. The failures of Barack Obama have not adversely affected the standing of Bill and Hillary Clinton with the American public.

    As a long time New Jersey GOP stalwart, I have a shameful confession to make. I had a surprisingly good working relationship with the then Senator Hillary Clinton and her staff while I served as Region 2 EPA Regional Administrator during the second term of President George W. Bush. I certainly would never support her for President, but if I had to have a Democratic President, I would far rather have her than a Barack Obama.

    Hillary’s concern for the environment was genuine, and unlike Obama, she was willing to work closely with Republican members of the House of Representatives and the Senate to achieve bipartisan goals. This was confirmed for me in a conversation I had with my closest friend in the New York State Republican Congressional delegation, the then Congressman Jim Walsh, who represented the Syracuse area.

    Jim Walsh and I had similar experiences of bipartisan cooperation with Hillary Clinton. This was in sharp contrast to our working experiences with the disgraced former Governor Eliot Spitzer, a political Sonny Liston, who was a vulgar, offensive and profane cowardly partisan bully, without ethical scruples. Both of us had experienced ugly confrontations with the then New York governor – from which neither Jim nor I backed down. Unlike Hillary, who was gracious and dignified, Eliot Spitzer gave new meaning to the term “political thug”.

    Another distinguishing feature of the then Senator Hillary Clinton was her Senate staff. On the Democratic side of the aisle, she had the most competent staff of any Senator, with the exception of the late Senator Ted Kennedy’s Labor Committee staff. Her record of Senate accomplishment stood in sharp contrast to that of the Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, who established a record of substantial nonachievement.

    So in late 2007, I was certain that Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States in 2008. I had no doubt that she would have a campaign staff as competent as her Senatorial staff. I felt that with the supreme political skills of both her husband Bill and herself, she would easily defeat Barack Obama.

    I was therefore shocked by the incompetency of both her campaign and campaign staff. I was even further surprised when she accepted Obama’s appointment of her as Secretary of State.

    Had Hillary Clinton remained in the U.S. Senate, I am convinced that she could have eventually achieved the stature of the late Senator Ted Kennedy or an Orrin Hatch, senators respected on both sides of the political aisle for their ability to achieve bipartisan cooperation in pursuit of the public good. Instead, she became the spokesperson for a failed foreign policy with which, I believe, she often disagrees.

    If the opportunity to wrest the nomination from Barack Obama arises and the Clintons decide to take the political plunge, I am convinced that they would not make the same mistakes they made in the 2008 campaign. The Clintons never make the same mistakes twice.

    All the above is a matter of sheer speculation, I admit. Perhaps Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid will find some way to extend the Bush tax cuts in a way to at least hold harmless middle class families. Perhaps the economy will not deteriorate further in 2011.

    If my above described possible scenario develops, however, and if Hillary runs against Barack in 2012, remember you read about the possibility of it here first.

    http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/commentary/at-this-rate-it-could-be-president-hillary-clinton-in-2012

  365. Clinton upholds deal with Israel – Obama reneges re Bushehr, Palestinian issues

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report August 23, 2010

    debkafile’s Washington sources reports Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is misleading his ministers by presenting the direct talks opening with the Palestinians on Sept. 2 as a diplomatic victory. He has omitted to disclose that the Obama administration has reneged on the secret deals for paving the way to the talks it concluded with Netanyahu’s senior aides Yitzhak Molcho and Uzi Arad.

    Part of the deal was for Israel to line up with the Obama administration’s non-reaction to Iran’s activation of its Russian-built nuclear reactor at Bushehr last Saturday, Aug. 21. The United States promised, for its part, to deliver the Palestinians to the negotiating table for face -to-face talks after dropping their pre-conditions (determination of the 1967 lines as the final borders of a Palestinian state and a moratorium on Jewish construction on the West Bank and Jerusalem).

    But most of all, the secret deal obliged Obama to refrain from twisting Israel’s arm on behalf of the Palestinians should the dialogue founder – as it is widely expected to do.

    With this deal in the bag, Netanyahu was able to showcase the Obama administration’s endorsement of his diplomatic strategy and its rejection of Palestinian demands.

    However, the deal was shown to have sprung a leak in the formal announcements in Washington of Friday, Aug. 20, debkafile discloses.

    Whereas Secretary of State Hillary Clinton kept faith with Israel and turned down a last minute White House demand to insert this phrase in her announcement: “The United States could offer bridging proposals if necessary,” into her announcement, the euphemistic phrase turned up in special presidential envoy George Mitchell’s remarks elaborating on the Clinton statement.

    The US sources consulted by debkafile Monday, Aug. 23, made no bones about White House intentions. Those “bridging proposals” referred to Obama’s views on the most intractable disputes at issue between Israel and the Palestinians, i.e. final borders, Jerusalem and Israel’s security demands. They would be put forward as friendly gestures to lift the talks out of a ditch, but Israeli would be left in not doubt that it must bow to the US president’s take – or else.

    In Ramallah, debkafile’s sources report, Mahmoud Abbas, Chairman of the Palestinian Authority, was accused of failing to stand up to US pressure when he agreed to meet Netanyahu face-to-face on Sept, 2 after 20 months of ducking direct talks. Abbas assured them that the Palestinians had no cause for concern because the White House had promised him that the “bridging proposals” would be tilted in the Palestinians’ favor and Netanyahu would be hustled into backing down on every important issue.
    Our sources add that Washington also reneged in the first half of its commitment to Israel too. Instead of staying mum on the Bushehr plant when it was started up on Saturday, Aug. 22, as did the Netanyahu government, the state department spokesman responded a few hours later by saying that Washington sees no “proliferation risk” from the launch of Iran’s first nuclear power plant.

    This went down badly in Jerusalem as a form of US approval for the reactor, a surprising deviation from their accord and another ill omen that the Obama administration may seek to grind Israel down in the way it manages the talks with the Palestinians.
    Obama is already under fire from several groups of Israel’s defenders for what is regarded as his unfair and unbalanced treatment of Israel and favoritism for the Arab and Muslim side of the Middle East rift. The drift of Jewish and pro-Israeli voters away from the Democrats ahead of November’s midterm congressional elections is reflected in more than one poll. According to the latest Pew Research Center report earlier this month, whereas in 2008 the Democrats enjoyed three times as many Jewish supporters as the Republicans. The ratio has now sunk to less than two to one.

    In Israel, the US president’s ratings, exceptionally high after his election, have plunged – unaffected by the effort Obama made to give Netanyahu a warm White House welcome in July.

    The Israeli prime minister may be counting on the November midterm elections to hold Obama’s hand from weighing too heavily in favor of the Palestinians – if the talks manage to stagger on that long.

    http://www.debka.com/article/8986/

  366. Whereas Secretary of State Hillary Clinton kept faith with Israel and turned down a last minute White House demand to insert this phrase in her announcement: “The United States could offer bridging proposals if necessary,” into her announcement, the euphemistic phrase turned up in special presidential envoy George Mitchell’s remarks elaborating on the Clinton statement.
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    This is important. It confirms our collective suspicions about this whole deal. First, it is a trap. Second, she knows it. Third, this is why she must get out of this corrupt administration which elevates crass politics over statesmanship with our friend Isael and the general welfare of the American People domestically. This by the way is the game that ruins nations.

  367. wbboei,

    I wonder if this was why she looked upset when she spoke.

    So many dishonest games behind the scenes.

  368. Interesting article JanH. Hillary trying very hard to achieve some type of direct negoatiations while Obama undermines her credibility with his pro-Muslim statements and tacit approval of the Iran reactor.

  369. Obama is not a Christian, he is not an American, and he is not a citizen of the world as he claims to be. He is a rootless cosmopolitan who cares for nothing and nobody except himself. A hog feeding at the public trough is the image I see when I look at him, and the people who applaud him at this point are right out of Orwell’s classic Animal Farm. It is as if an alien entered our midst, cast a spell over our youth and then took away everything we valued.

  370. I wonder if this was why she looked upset when she spoke.

    So many dishonest games behind the scenes
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    My thought as well. I did not mention it because I was not sure who said it–I thought it was Tim but I was not sure. But that is exactly what I see. The other thing I have to be mindful of which is my own reaction when I hear her invoke his name. I automatically assume it is either a matter of protocol or respect, but in some cases it is merely to clarify that the policy she is announcing is more his than hers. Obama himself is stupid. It is the staffies around him like Axelrod who are looking to score points with constituencies that are pulling everyones strings. Obama is what he has always been–a puppet.

  371. Remember also the video with that pompous axxhole Holbrooke where it looked like she walked out on him. While she was trying to convey how heinous the Taliban crimes were, he went back to his good taliban vs. bad taliban idea arguing this incident was just the work of a few extremists. I think Holbrooke and Mitchel are trying to minimize her by kowtowing to the WH.

  372. This is important. It confirms our collective suspicions about this whole deal. First, it is a trap. Second, she knows it. Third, this is why she must get out of this corrupt administration which elevates crass politics over statesmanship with our friend Isael and the general welfare of the American People domestically. This by the way is the game that ruins nations.
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    QUICK! Someone grab Hillary by the arms and someone grab her legs. You can toss her off the balcony to the waiting 9/11 crew holding a safety net. I have two fast horses waiting outside that can go amphibianian when we wisk Hillary off safely to Mesopotamia where she can hide until it’s safe to come out!. ( a strong leader stands fast in the face of adversity) Isn’t that exactly what she is doing?

    I know you mean well. But you are staring to sound like John Bolton’s regretful posturing as an ill informed gentleman looking for and needing attention!… after last weeks dire warnings QUICK… BOMB IRAN! THERES ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT…HURRY, BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! Ahhhh… (biting knuckle)

    I dare say David Horowitz is an expert. However, he needs to supply his publisher with opinion pieces every week. His latest opinion piece was a clever ploy of two words YES and NO! How can you be faulted for answering both positions with your opinion elaborating on the yay and nay of the lady in distress, Hillary Clinton, (only she needs us to tell her she’s in trouble) for putting forth a new strategy bringing both sides to the table? As if to presume ANY writer blowhard is more knowledgesble negotiating with the problems between Israel and Pakistan when her husband didn’t write about it; he dealt with the two leaders in the 90’s over Peace talks personally, first hand!

    If Hillary is indeed in trouble… know this- I will keep two of the fastest horses waiting for her at Foggy Bottom just in case she needs a quick getaway. And this is when your help will be called upon as patriots, when all things go sideways. 🙁

    ever more!

  373. JanH
    August 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    The rumours are flying…

    Chelsea Clinton to Make First Public Appearance Since Wedding

    Monday August 23, 2010

    Recent reports claimed Chelsea and Marc are planning to have a baby.

    During the father-daughter wedding dance at Chelsea’s reception, she whispered in Bill’s ear that she and Marc were going to make him and Hilary grandparents next spring,” a source told American tabloid the National Enquirer.

    “Bill was so happy, tears streamed down his face. Others thought he was just overcome with emotion from the wedding, but it was more than that.

    “He’s dreamed of being a granddad but his health has been failing recently and he doesn’t think he has long to live. Knowing that Chelsea and Marc already have baby plans in the works has given him a real boost.

    “Chelsea was in no hurry to get pregnant just a few months ago. In fact, she was focused on her new career as a health care industry executive.

    “But Bill’s failing health has her so worried, she and Marc agreed to have a baby sooner instead of later because she knows it means everything to her father.

    “She has that pregnant glow about her and has switched to a special diet and exercise program. She is doing all the right things for a pregnant woman.

    “She’s even quit drinking and is planning a nursery.”

    ___________________________

    JanH… thanks for posting the good news!

    BEST WISHES to Chelsea and Marc and of course, Grandma Hillary and Grandpa Bill 🙂

  374. Ground Zero Imam Says U.S. Worse than al-Qaeda (Audio)

    New audio has surfaced of the imam behind the controversial mosque near Ground Zero allegedly telling an audience overseas that the United States has been far more deadly than al-Qaeda. “We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims,” Feisal Abdul Rauf said at a 2005 lecture sponsored by the University of South Australia. After discussing the U.S.-led sanctions against Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Rauf went on to argue that America is to blame for its testy relationship with Islamic countries.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38673

    Nice……………

  375. There are millions of people out there like this one. And yet neither Obama, his party or the elitist media understands that they actually exist. They are so mesmerized by Obama that anyone who opposes him is a priori the enemy. That is their delusion. And there are far more of us than there are of them. That is their problem.
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    Why I am a tea party activist

    National commentators continue attempts to define the tea-party movement, including some who allege it is a racist organization. Guest columnist Jennifer Holmes of Renton disputes that idea and explains why she is a tea-party activist.

    By Jennifer Holmes
    Editorial Comment

    I AM a tea-party activist, not a racist.

    I grew up on the Eastside. I went to college, earned a job teaching school, got married, bought a house, had a baby, and stayed home to raise my children. We live in the same house we bought in 1986. Our only debt is our mortgage. A few months before 9/11, my husband was laid off and for six years worked very hard to bring home the bacon taking on various jobs. We survived.

    Every election I have cast my vote. Occasionally, I have written the governor, as well as a few senators and some representatives to express my opinions regarding various issues.

    But that just doesn’t seem to be enough.

    I would classify myself as a conservative mix of the various parties. I want a smaller government, an environment that is cherished, and citizens who take personal responsibility for their actions. I want those in need to be cared for, a military capable of protecting us, and the Constitution to be followed. I want our national borders to be secure and a national balanced budget. I want liberty for all, inasmuch as it doesn’t encroach on the liberties of others.

    I believe the majority of tea partyers believe as I do.

    Both our grandparents and parents wanted their children to prosper; to have opportunities and the chance of a better and more fulfilling life. Not just to survive, but to thrive. I want that for my children, too. But we are not thriving, we are surviving.

    We pay our monthly bills and make ends meet. We stick religiously to our budget. But there is never anything left. Camping has been the epitome of our vacations. Eating out consists of Subway and Taco Del Mar. I frequent thrift stores for clothing and household items and we were part of a gleaners group.

    Other than my husband’s company investment program, we have not been able to put any money away. Money comes in and money goes out to cover the mortgage, gasoline and food. Nothing is left for investing, nothing is left for college.

    That is why I have attended various tea-party rallies with my family. The first one was in downtown Renton on April 15, 2009. Then on Independence Day, my girls and I sat in on a rally on Mercer Island. This year on Tax Day, we drove to downtown Seattle to wave our flags and listen to others, like us, who are deeply concerned about the direction of our nation. And this past Fourth of July we were in Olympia.

    Our oldest son just completed high school and wants to go to college. What opportunities does he have with exorbitant college costs, a horrendous job market and looming inflation? I don’t see his generation as one that will have the same affluence as my parents’ generation.

    I don’t see things getting better. I see them getting worse. That is why I am a tea-party activist.

    The current path our nation is on is not right — with diminishing personal freedom, greater government control, less money in our pockets, and perpetual debt that is threatening the future of this generation and the generations to come. My distrust of my government is growing because I see those I have elected as caring more about keeping their jobs than making the hard decisions needed to protect and preserve our country.

    America is waning. The changes I see are not the ones I want.

    I am a flag waver, not a racist. I am an American who cares deeply for the future of our nation and its citizens. I am a tea partyer.

    Jennifer Holmes lives in Renton.

  376. “We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims,” Feisal Abdul Rauf said at a 2005 lecture sponsored by the University of South Australia.
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    Keeping score the last 5yrs? So building a mosque on sacred American soil disrespecting the thousands who died in the towers on 9/11 somehow will even up the score?

    right!

  377. In reference to the inclimate weather in grape country, funnnny! Karma. We do not enjoy paying for it as they lord over us while Americans hurt; and so they should not be able to enjoy it.

  378. Short Termer-

    No greater suffering for Obama than having to stay put under one roof with days of inclement whether forcast and his wife looking back at him with that latern jawed skowl.. ha! oh, the humanities!

  379. JanH, So I guess Chelsea is already pregnant…isn’t that wonderful….Bill and Hill will make wonderful grandparents. Perhaps this was why Hillary looked so happy at the wedding???

    Great article from Debkafile….I just hope he quits soon. LaRouche seems to think Obama’s administration is sunk and the word is out that there will be NO second term. LaRouche seems to think he shouldn’t even come back after vacation.

    I think his whole purpose in wanting to be Potus was to screw Israel, just my opinion though!

  380. Confloyd, i personally think Obama was all about getting there and having the adulation and basically could not give a shit what happened when he got there, its all ego. All he wanted was the plaudit and as usual when he got something, he got bored of it pretty quickly, the spoilt kid syndrome, gets a present on christmas morning bored of it within an hour

  381. surprised no one commented on this article posted by JanH-

    Convert Lauer and Couric to their call letters and you have Bill and Hill making nice with NBC and CBS.. a little glad handing and goodwill for the pre-Hillary bid for th WH perhaps? It looks like it could be to me…
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    JanH
    August 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
    Some fluff news…

    Bill Clinton Celebrates 64th Birthday With A-Listers in the Hamptons

    By MICHAEL PRESTON
    Mon, Aug 23, 2010

    Print Share Buzz up!retweet0diggsdigg

    Getty Images Former President Bill Clinton basked in the glow family and a group of A-list celebs to celebrate his 64th birthday in the Hamptons, reports the New York Post.

    On hand for the big night were designer Vera Wang, who made Chelsea Clinton’s wedding dress, Katie Couric, “Today Show” host Matt Lauer, and rockers Paul McCartney and Jimmy Buffett.

    The fiesta was held at the home of longtime Clinton aide Doug Band in the town of Water Mill with the food catered by Almond restaurant in Bridgehampton. Bubba’s wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, co-hosted the party.

    The president’s actual birthday was August 19 and he received a call from Sir Paul on which he sang the Beatles 1967 hit, “When I’m Sixty-Four.”

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/entertainment/celebrity/NATL-Bill-Clinton-Celebrates-64th-Birthday-With-A-Listers-in-the-Hamptons-101285969.html

  382. Mrs.Smith, It does appear that they are trying to makeup for the error in their judgement during the 08′ primary…I hope she gets to be Potus….it would be a shame if she did not get it.

  383. Mrs. Smith
    August 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
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    Just this one time I have to disagree with you. I believe these are very serious times for both Hillary and Israel.

  384. confloyd & Mrs. Smith,

    I posted that article about Chelsea with some trepidation. I’m not sure how true the facts are which is why I labeled them rumors.

  385. I heard that Imam say on the tape it is our own fault that our Twin Towers were knocked down. Well I guess you can compare that thought with the same idea that some folks think its the woman’s fault when she gets raped.
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    The lefties are crazy!

  386. JanH
    August 23rd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    Mrs. Smith
    August 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
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    Just this one time I have to disagree with you. I believe these are very serious times for both Hillary and Israel.
    ___________________

    Do you believe in Bibi’s judgment Jan? I do, if you have a lack of confidence in him I think it is unfounded. I believe in Hillary’s judgement as well because she’s been there before with Bill when he was negotiating between the 2 countries. Hillary is no neophyte and she is never alone when she is giving advise.

    I also believe Hillary has a continuous stream of infomation coming her way 24/7. Sure, she’s a woman. I’m sick of the journalists propagandizing hyperbole just because she’s a woman. I haven’t read anything about the John BOLTON catastrophe crying the SKY is FALLING, have you? Why hasn’t the media held him accountable scaring people half to death who listen to and believe this poppycock Israel should attack Iran?

    Can you imagine if Bibi listened to this journolist antagonist and actualy attaked Iran, where we would be right now?

  387. JanH
    August 23rd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    confloyd & Mrs. Smith,

    I posted that article about Chelsea with some trepidation. I’m not sure how true the facts are which is why I labeled them rumors.
    ________________________

    I hope we’re going to be victimized by the rumor mill again… well, anyway, if she is, I am happy for her…

  388. make that.. NOT victimized.. (I really miss my right hand) 🙂 I hate complaining when I know, some people are forced to type with thier toes…or a pencil in their mouth.. sheesh!

  389. Mrs. Smith,

    I have always believed in both Hillary’s and Bibi’s judgement. But there are a lot of rats in the White House and given what happened during the 2008 elections, I’m concerned about what hidden promises have been made behind both Hillary’s and Bibi’s backs. I firmly believe that Obama and his thugs are working their damnedest to undermine those two and I am concerned.

    I am Jewish and Israel means the world to me. I am a 150% fan of the Clintons as well. But this doesn’t mean I am naive or blind to the evil out there.

  390. I was at the doctors today and he said in another week I can begin therapy. Believe me, I am looking forward to gaining full use of it again and being pain free. Time will tell.. In all my years of riding horses and the occasional spill; I’ve never had a broken bone before.. But I guess, it’s never too late.

  391. Confloyd, i personally think Obama was all about getting there and having the adulation and basically could not give a shit what happened when he got there, its all ego. All he wanted was the plaudit and as usual when he got something, he got bored of it pretty quickly, the spoilt kid syndrome, gets a present on christmas morning bored of it within an hou
    ————————
    That is my impression as well. If it were otherwise, we would be hearing something–anything about what the great man actually accomplished as editor of the Harvard Law Review, as a State Senator and later as a US Senator. It was historic to be the first black president of the law review but what if anything did he do after that? Later we heard that he was a no show editor. How ironic. What we see today is a president who campaigns between vacations and does not govern. Big media sells him to the public as gold, but most people have come to the realization that he is iron pyrite which is otherwise known as fools gold.

  392. Surprisingly, the RCP disapproval rating for him went down. He is at 49.1% down from 50.1 %.
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    Charlie Cook was asked why democrats registered an uptick for a two week period vis a vis the November election. Polling for subsequent periods reflected a reversion to the mean. His response was this two week surge was nothing more than a statistical anomaly. Perhaps that is what we are dealing with here. Also, do note that RCP is an average number which means that a few outlier polls or politically driven ones could easily affect the reported number. Perish the thought that that any big media poll would be politically driven boy scouts and truth seekers that they are.

  393. I have always believed in both Hillary’s and Bibi’s judgement. But there are a lot of rats in the White House and given what happened during the 2008 elections, I’m concerned about what hidden promises have been made behind both Hillary’s and Bibi’s backs. I firmly believe that Obama and his thugs are working their damnedest to undermine those two and I am concerned.
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    Nah, it will never happen. They need Hillary to right the listing ship. The tide is turning, JanH, recognize it and embrace it. The elites have given Obama and Soros almost two years to accomplish what they promised they could deliver. That is a complete humbling of middle class Americans committed to serfdom in perpetuity through the TAX schemes Soros has been trying to implement through his Climategate/Global Warming Schemes and HealthCare Reform which amounts to another Tax designed to cripple any economic recovery anticipated by American citizens.

    The Soros/Obama team are the world’s biggest laughing stock and failures right now and the elites can’t wait to be rid of them because they can’t deliver. The elites want to make money! Obama doesn’ know how… all he and that Amazon know how to do is spend it..nobody needs him… except the muslims and they are a negative to the elites…

    We have to stop kvetching about Hillary. She has the best man she can have by her side. And they have Israel’s interest first and foremost now that their son-in-law is Jewish… yes?

    The Obama WH is toothless and impotent. People are leaving in droves…. my money is on Hillary without reservation.

  394. When it comes to the democratic party Mr Obama is a true svengali. He looks them in the eye and gets them to piss the interests of their constituents down the drain. He has the same magic effect on RINOS like Snowe, Collins and Brown, plus a few in the House including Dennis the menace cooz kucinich. It is like watching a magic act by Rasputin.
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    svengali definition:

    Definition of SVENGALI

    a person who manipulates or exerts excessive control over another
    Origin of SVENGALI

    Svengali, villainous hypnotist in the novel Trilby (1894) by George du Maurier
    First Known Use: 1919
    Rhymes with SVENGALI

    Kigali, loblolly, Nepali, sea holly, Somali, tamale

  395. When the jury failed to return a guilty verdict against Blago and the judge agreed to try him again I was curious as to why double jeopardy did not attach. I asked that same question to someone today and they told me that on many of those counts what you really had was not a finding of not guilty but a hung jury with only one hold out vote. In those circumstances the prosecution can seek another trial. The problem with doing so is the defense now has all the evidence before them and knows exactly what it must rebut. Therefore, they may decide to seeks a settlement based on the one count Blago was convicted of which carries a limited jail sentence.

  396. Carol
    August 23rd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
    Where is admin????much missed…
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    Ditto. Getting a little worried.

  397. I wouldn’t be surprised if Chelsea started a family in the next few years, but that stuff about Bill dying is ridiculous. His weight loss was to benefit his health – not a sign of its deterioration.

    I did see a copy of Chelsea’s wedding program (a newspaper had one) and there was a mention in it about “the children we hope to have.” So she and Marc evidently want a family.

  398. “We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims,” Feisal Abdul Rauf said at a 2005 lecture

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    So what’s your body count on both groups, and what are your sources?

  399. This is strictly hypothetical but…

    If Soros had chosen Blago instead of Obama and backed him for a WH bid we would definately have a problem getting him to leave the WH or forego the notion of reelection. Blago definately does possess the “it” factor. I’m not sure if he is electable in any federal position..however, Idubt we’ve seen the last of him.

    Obama not so much, after you live with him for a period of time… you find yourself saying…
    “Is that all there is?”

  400. Oh. Geller is the source of the tape alleged to be Rauf, and here is all that even she really claims (per Human Events):

    “New audio has surfaced of the imam behind the controversial mosque near Ground Zero allegedly telling an audience overseas that the United States has been far more deadly than al-Qaeda. “We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims,” Feisal Abdul Rauf said at a 2005 lecture sponsored by the University of South Australia.

    “After discussing the U.S.-led sanctions against Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Rauf went on to argue that America is to blame for its testy relationship with Islamic countries.

    “What complicates the discussion, intra-Islamically, is the fact that the West has not been cognizant and has not addressed the issues of its own contribution to much injustice in the Arab and Muslim world.” The audio was uncovered by blogger Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs.”
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38673

    Excuse me for taking the quote at face value in my previous post.

  401. http://mediamatters.org/research/201008230063
    “Geller distorts Rauf lecture to falsely paint him as a terrorist sympathizer”

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    A good long article with Rauf’s actual quotes in context and supporting material from Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, former chairman and vice chairman of the 9-11 Commission respectively and Graham E. Fuller, former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA.

  402. Administrator, we hope you are having a really super vacation. You deserve it. But, we are kind of selfish. We miss you and can hardly wait for your return!

  403. Someone questioned whether the Manhattanites (53%) favoring the community center had lost anyone in the 9/11 attack.

    The WSJ interviewed two strippers who work near the site.
    “[She] sat on a barstool in a tiny, shiny red dress and defended Park51. ‘They’re not building a mosque in the World Trade Center. It’s all good. You have your synagogues and your churches. And you have a mosque.'” Chris lost eight of her friends on Sept. 11, 2001, firefighters from the Brooklyn firehouse she lived next to at the time, but “the people who did it are not going to the mosque.”

  404. A good long article with Rauf’s actual quotes in context and supporting material from Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, former chairman and vice chairman of the 9-11 Commission respectively and Graham E. Fuller, former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA.
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    That may well be true but we need a better source than Media Matters. I have seen them invent stuff themselves and take things out of context to cover for Obama. They have too much of an ideological axe to grind for me to take their opinions seriously. The same may be true of Geller but at this point I cannot make that judgment. I guess what I am saying is I need a non partisan to render a judgment, or else to hear what Geller might say in rebuttal. I know this moderate muslim who is bent on forcing his view on the American People with the support of Obama travels at taxpayer expense for the State Department, but for whom in the State Department authorized this? There is too many ideological currents in the Obama administration to gainsay that is Hillary’s choice any more than that deranged Deputy who whines to Red China about the Arizona law is saying what she wants, much less what is in the interests of the American People. Having seen what we have seen from these people the only sensible approach is to be skeptical of whatever they say and whatever they do. And that goes especially for Media Matters which is a de facto arm of the Administration. How about a good old fashioned idea. Rather than lecturing to us and telling us what we must think to be nobel savages like them, maybe this Administration should step back for a second, take a deep breath and listen to what the American People are saying. Since that will never happen with these people the choice is really between representative democracy and dictatorship. Who would have thought the democrats could make the republicans look good. Charlie Cook put it best. The bad news for republicans is the American People do not trust them, as a result of Bush. The good news is with Obama in charge it really does not matter. And the fact that Bush has a higher approval rating now than Obama by 6 points tells you how much he is despised.

  405. Turndown: looks like you and I are among the few who do not sleep posting as we do in the wee small hours of the morning.

  406. When I said this administration should listen to the American People let me clear on what I meant. They do listen to what we say for campaign purposes, and they shape their message to conform to whatever they think we want to hear. But when it comes to governing they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to what we say, rather than incorporating it into policy choices. And the reason for this is clear. They have academics running the show, and they know better than we do. I have heard that from businessmen who met with them originally and I have read about it recently when businessmen are asked why they are sitting on trillions in cash which they could be investing in expansion and jobs.

  407. wbboei
    August 23rd, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    A Martha Stewart verdict. Lying to federal investigators.
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    Lying? How can that be illegal? Obama does it every day. Oh that is right. He has sovereign immunity.

  408. This is consistent with the Don Horowitz analysis I posted yesterday. It opens the door for the Iman wannabe at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to do what he does best–blame others. From today’s Wall Street Journal. It is called playing out a losing hand, not my fault etc.
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    Mideast Sirens
    Grounds for a durable Israeli-Palestinian peace don’t seem to exist.

    Henry Kissinger once wrote that “when enough bureaucratic prestige has been invested in a policy it is easier to see it fail than to abandon it.” So it is with the Obama Administration’s latest efforts to revive peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. The prospects for success are bleak, but everyone still wants to give it that old State Department try.

    The hopeful news, to the extent some exists, is that both sides will engage in “direct” talks after nearly two years of “proximity” sparring. The U.S. will host and presumably midwife the early September talks in which the two sides will have to confront their major differences face to face. Optimists suggest that this could be another 1979 moment, when Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat both took an unlikely leap against their own histories and signed an Israeli-Egyptian peace.

    The fundamentals today argue against such a joint leap. Israel is less secure now than it was then, especially with the rise of Iran as a menacing regional power. Tehran has supplied its proxy, Hezbollah, with 45,000 rockets aimed at Israel from across the border in Lebanon—despite Condoleezza Rice’s assurances that the U.N. would stop the rocket supply after the 2006 Lebanon-Israel war.

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    Reuters
    Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

    Iran also arms Hamas, which now controls Gaza and is sworn to Israel’s destruction. Syria is as much part of Iran’s orbit as it was two years ago, despite much U.S. pleading and high-profile visits to Damascus by John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi.

    These realities understandably make Israel determined to keep a military presence on the West Bank border with Jordan as part of any new Palestinian statehood—to prevent the West Bank from becoming another Lebanon or Gaza. Israel also wants a long phase-in of any withdrawal from the West Bank, again as a way of building confidence in long-term security.

    This will all be difficult for Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) to accept. Even if he does, Hamas will denounce any peace treaty and use violence to sabotage it. Hamas abruptly ceased its reconciliation talks with Fatah and the Palestinian Authority, which runs the West Bank, merely because the PA agreed to participate in the September direct talks with Israel.

    Mr. Abbas also wants a Palestinian exile “right of return” to Israel that no Israeli government can accept, lest it guarantee a majority Palestinian future on its soil. Then there’s the dispute over dividing Jerusalem, the Israeli capital that Israelis also won’t cede to the PA to the extent Mr. Abbas is seeking.

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    The U.S. will no doubt try to squeeze both sides to compromise, especially Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has the kind of hawkish credibility that might let him sell concessions to the Israeli public. But he also leads a balky left-right coalition that could break apart if he concedes too much.

    Rather than squeeze peace from these stones, the U.S. might make more progress with both Israel and Mr. Abbas if it stopped Iran’s march toward becoming a nuclear power. Israelis and Arabs saw on the weekend that Iran began loading fuel into its (ostensibly civilian) nuclear reactor at Bushehr, with the help of Russian fuel rods and no objection from the U.S. Russia says it will control the rods and return them to Russia, but any rods that disappear could be turned into weapons-grade plutonium.

    Iran’s march to nuclear status is the security threat that dominates the region because it would instantly transform every nation’s strategic calculations. Israel is less likely to cede more territory for promises of peace if it knows that Hamas and Hezbollah are suddenly backed by an Iranian bomb. A diminished Iran with a shuttered or damaged nuclear program wouldn’t guarantee that Israel and the Palestinians could agree to a peace, but it would improve the chances.

    The White House and U.N. officials argue that, whatever the long odds, there is no harm in trying. But sometimes there is harm in trying and failing. Mr. Obama is putting his own prestige on the line, and that supply is not unlimited. A loud failure might weaken Mr. Abbas’s political position among the Palestinians, while inflaming anti-Israel sentiment in Europe, Turkey and elsewhere. We certainly hope for the best, but the White House and Pentagon should prepare for the consequences of failure.

  409. turndownobama
    August 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    “… than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims,”

    I wonder what al-Qaeda’s count is if you add in the innocent Muslims?

    You can be as uber liberal as you want, for me I will never support or defend a psudo-religion which denies the basic humanity of half the human race. Apsudo-religion which allows a man such total power over a woman that to mention beating, beheading, or just tossing them to the curb is just mentioning the tip of the iceberg. And which allows them to spread the legs of five year old girls and mutilate their genitals in the name of keeping them wondering.

    There it is in a nut shell – muslin men are so physically and spiritually ugly that the only way they can get a woman to hold still for them is to hobble her under a burka, or mutilate her genitals or beat her and if all else fails behead her. Women are like herd animals to them, even their daughters are not sacred, if it looks like a daughter might make a break for a life other then being a cow for some muslim man he kills her and leaves her body at the curb.

    They hate women and yet want 17 virgins waiting for them after they kill innocent people in the name of their prophet. The prophet tells them that even the ugliest most repulsive man can have access to their bodies any time any place. Women trapped by the muslims can’t even look forward to the here after. Do non-virgin muslim women even get a place in the here after? Or does their god kick them to the curb too? I ask my God to bless and free every unfortunate women who is born into their culture.

    I also read this morning that our taxpayer money is going to fund re-building and building mosques all over the world and I oppose that because our taxpayer money is not to be used to further any religion or anything that goes my the name of religion but mostly for all the reasons listed above and because I am a women and because muslims stink.

  410. Mrs. Smith, It looks like Dean is Soros’s new puppet to challenge Dean. Dean sure seems to be out and about griping about Obama. What do you think??

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