‘We Will Not Be Silenced’ And An Emergency Warning To Sarah Palin – Something Grisly This Way Comes

We might have “jumped the gun” yesterday. We declared Sally Quinn “our national harlot”. We neglected Arianna Huffington.

Arianna Huffington is looking for a new bed to jump to and she’s eying Sarah Palin as her new objet d’amour, Watch out Sarah. Arianna has the pox and she’s looking to politically bed you. Watch out Sarah – something grisly this way comes.



In early February of this year we warned the Tea Party movement to beware of Arianna Huffington (along with our warning to use the epithet “whore” with extreme care as it is a particularly weaponized word used to degrade women). We wrote to the Tea Party activists:

“After using her gay husband’s money and reputation to advance herself, after using Newt Gingrich’s money and reputation to advance her Hillary Hating self, after politically fellating Barack Obama – Arriana is ready for a burlap covered Tea Party bed. Tea Party activists beware: Arriana has the pox. Don’t let her near you.

Arianna Huffington has been a conservative Republican and a “revolutionary Republican” storm trooper for Newt Gingrich. From there the adaptable Arianna became a revolutionary of her version of the Democratic left. But don’t be fooled, Arianna is a harlot – looking for the latest movement, the latest star – so she can drain it/them of integrity and character – and appoint herself the queen of the scene.

Back in February, it was the Tea Party movement. And there was cooing towards Sarah Palin:

“Indeed, at times in her speech, Palin sounded like the second coming of Huey Long. “While people on Main Street look for jobs, people on Wall Street — they’re collecting billions and billions in your bailout bonuses,” she said. “And everyday Americans are wondering: Where are the consequences? They helped to get us into this worst economic situation since the Great Depression. Where are the consequences?”

I was within an inch of singing along: “Yeah, where are the consequences!? You tell ‘em, Sarah!

Arianna shouted “You tell ’em, Sarah!” This is the same Arianna who just days or weeks earlier was shouting “You tell ’em, Barack!”

Now the grisly Arianna Huffington presumes to speak for the Mama Grizzlies. In her latest writing exercise, to prepare herself for the next Olympic worthy bed-hop, Arianna sings praises to Sarah Palin:

“I’ve been thinking about this paradox: the most important political ad of 2010 so far did not play on television, and came from someone not currently running for any office. It was Sarah Palin’s latest web video, “Mama Grizzlies.”

For those who haven’t seen it yet, the video features footage of women of various ages taken at an assortment of Tea Party and Palin rallies, accompanied by audio clips from a recent Palin speech. Among the choice sound bytes:

It seems like it’s kind of a mom awakening… women are rising up.”

“I always think of the mama grizzly bears that rise up on their hind legs when somebody is coming to attack their cubs.”

“You thought pit bulls were tough? Well, you don’t wanna mess with the mama grizzlies!”

Arianna douses her Sarah Palin love letter with the cheap perfume so valued by the educated fools who style themselves the “creative class”. Talk of Jung and psychobabble is employed to explain to the stupid educated what “bitter”, “clingy”, small town America always saw:

“To really understand her appeal, we need less policy analysis and more psychology. Specifically, we need to hear from that under-appreciated political pundit Carl Jung.

It’s not Palin’s positions people respond to — it’s her use of symbols. Mama grizzlies rearing up to protect their young? That’s straight out of Jung’s “collective unconscious” — the term Jung used to describe the part of the unconscious mind that, unlike the personal unconscious, is shared by all human beings, made up of archetypes, or, in Jung’s words, “universal images that have existed since the remotest times.” Unlike personal experiences, these archetypes are inherited, not acquired. They are “inborn forms… of perception and apprehension,” the “deposits of the constantly repeated experiences of humanity.”

This is the realm Palin is working in — I’m sure unintentionally — and it’s why she has connected so deeply with a large segment of the public. In fact, her evocation of mama grizzlies has a particularly resonant history in the collective unconscious. According to the Jungian Archive for Research in Archetypal Symbolism, “The bear has long fascinated mankind, partly because of its habit of hibernation, which may have served as a model of death and rebirth in human societies.”

As a matter of fact, another very popular Republican politician once used the image of a bear in an ad. The bear was used differently, but to powerful effect.”

Arianna tell us that Palin does what she does “unintentionally”. We are sure that Palin understands fully what she does, even if she is not the most educated person in the world. We have no doubt that Sarah Palin is not a particularly well educated person, but we also have no doubt that Sarah Palin is one very smart woman who understands very well what she does and how she does it.

But Arianna thinks Palin is too stupid to know what she is doing even though it is Palin who is doing it. Palin used the soccer mom pitbull analogy during the presidential election and now she uses the Mama Grizzly analogy. Both analogies are pretty much the same but Arianna presumes to declare that Sarah Palin is a dope that has fallen by accident into such vivid and powerful language.

Go to hell Arianna! Don’t come back (we’re sure when Arianna does go to Hell she will tell Lucifer what the deeper meaning of his existence is and that she would like to be Mrs. Lucifer and lead the troops from the gates of Hell to challenge the Almighty – whom she will no doubt compare to Hillary Clinton as a dynastic fraud!)

You do not need Jung nor Arianna to understand the power of Sarah Palin. All you need is to hear her when she says Barack Obama lacks, um, testicular fortitude (Palin actually said Obama lacks the fortitude and the testicles).



Obama Dimocrats and Arianna Republicans and everyone else would be smart to avoid reading Arianna’s silliness and look at the rise of the Mama Grizzlies through pink colored glasses and think Hillary. Amy Siskind, in an article also featured on Huff n’ Puff, is the article even Arianna should read:

“Why did President Obama choose to appear on The View? The answer is simple. The View’s audience is 79% female and Obama has a women problem. Obama’s approval among women voters has plunged from 59% to 45% during his term in office. Here’s a shocker: just one-third of white women approve of the President.

In fairness to President Obama, his policies and lackidasical focus on women’s issues only partially explain this nosedive with women. The Democratic Party — once heralded as the party of equality — has lost its moral authority with women after the misogyny-fest of 2008.”

Sing it sista! Sing it!

The Democratic Party — once heralded as the party of equality — has lost its moral authority with women after the misogyny-fest of 2008.”

There is lots in that article to ponder. Siskind argues there is “A redefinition of “women’s issues” as well as the issue of “gender representation” as opposed to policy.

“Until recently, conventional wisdom has been that the best way to better conditions for women was to elect politicians who would support women’s policies. The gender of the politician was secondary. When Obama was elected, Ms. magazine issued a special Inaugural edition cover featuring Obama in a superman pose with a t-shirt proclaiming: “This is What a Feminist Looks Like”. Foreboding perhaps.

In the ensuing year, neither women nor women’s issues fared particularly well under President Obama (even the widely ballyhooed signing of the Lilly Ledbetter Act only makes it easier to file pay-discrimination suits). [snip]

Whereas the policy argument makes women passively dependent on progressive male candidates; the gender representation alternative posits: get women into leadership and the rest will take care of itself! [snip]

Republican women candidates are also supported by women in their party.”

That last sentence particularly hurts. It has the ring of truth. Republicans do support their women candidates. Obama Dimocrats destroy women candidates. Amy Siskind is right about the loss of moral authority by the Dimocratic Party and the now gone Democratic Party:

“The Democratic Party of the Roosevelts and Kennedys was based on the notion of equality. Yet in 2008, we learned that equality of the gender variety had de minimis standing in the current Democratic Party.

In 2007-08, the Democratic Party fielded its first viable female presidential candidate. What ensued was a onslaught of horrific, shameful, overt sexism for which the Democratic Party was silent and in some cases complicit (if you forgot how bad it got, watch here.)

Where were the DNC officials? Where were the Democratic elected officials? Where was Obama and his aids? Why did so few speak out?

What ensued was an awakening. A realization that in 2008, sexism was alive and well in our country — and in some instances, was promulgated by the Democratic Party and the liberal media. And as women increasingly feel betrayed, their loyalty and attachment to the Democratic Party has cooled.”



What so many of us, women and men, learned in 2008 was that the Democratic Party we fought for and the allies we thought we had were as capable as the worse of the Taliban in their sexism and misogyny. Yesterday, Fox & Friends continued to fulfill its promise to examine the 2008 elections. “We Will Not Be Silenced” says CountUsOut:



“What happened with the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation cover-up, as well as Holder’s Justice Department’s alleged policy of not prosecuting Voting Rights Act complaints brought by citizens who happen to be white, suddenly has a larger context, a background, a backstory, and, crucially, a THEME. And the theme is: Barack Obama and his Movement will lie, cheat, and steal to win elections. Literally.

Since many of today’s readers may be new to this site and ones like it, I’ll post a few links for background information on what’s been going on in the Democratic party and in the upper echelons of DC and the national media headquarters since at least 2005.

Hillary Clinton actually received MORE VOTES than obama in the Dem Primaries and Caucuses of 2008. Let that sink in. Every time you read or hear a media spokesperson refer to Clinton’s “bitter loss” or “incompetent campaign” or “hard-fought loss” to obama, please  click on this link to reassure yourself that YES, the media is shamelessly lying. Clinton did not suffer a “bitter loss.” She won for lord’s sake. What she did do, was finally throw in the towel on June 7, 2008 because she knew she couldn’t beat the DNC Machine. So she cut her losses and tried to salvage a worthy and valuable goal from the corrupt wreckage of the New Democratic Party, as shamefully redesigned by Axelrod, obama, Emanuel, Brazile, and Pelosi. That gang, with obama as their untouchable figurehead, tragically transformed the party of inclusive, idealistic, and all-American common sense liberalism into a Chicago style club of insider-only thugs who play disenfranchised groups off of each other, working only to keep us divided and hating each other so we’ll be distracted fighting for scraps from a government that no longer guarantees justice for all but instead payback with taxpayer cash for a few (and, yes, the “few” most certainly include the corporate interests that funded his campaign).

But not only did Clinton receive more votes; she also received them in a climate of corruption, intimidation, and blatant favoritism practiced by the media and the party referees; the Dem party  leadership and media honchos who had the hots for an obama presidency. In Nevada and Texas, the corruption and illegal activity by the obama campaign against Clinton voters at the polling places was so blatant and out of control that the Clinton Campaign officially registered a complaint with the DNC and requested an investigation into, among other things:”

There are plenty of “other things”which CountUsOut enumerates. There are many of us who will not be silenced. We’ll let Amy Siskind summarize:

“The sexism the 2008 election will forever change the political landscape. Millions of women voters, be they registered Democrats or newly-minted Independents, no longer feel that they have a home in the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party does not yet realize this, the Republican Party does!

The next year will be very telling. Women voters have decided every modern day presidential election. If the Democratic Party continues its tone-deafness to women voters, it does so at its own political peril.”

We’re still Democrats and will remain so. We Will Not Be Silenced and we will fight to restore the once great Democratic Party and destroy the root, truck, branches, leaves, and fruit of the Obamination Dimocratic Party. But many Democrats have already left, never to return. Many more leave every day.

The sexism and misogyny unleashed against Hillary Clinton will be marshaled against Sarah Palin. Obama Dimocrats and “intellectuals” had no fear in attacking Hillary Clinton. They will have even less computation in destroying Sarah Palin.

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282 thoughts on “‘We Will Not Be Silenced’ And An Emergency Warning To Sarah Palin – Something Grisly This Way Comes

  1. Admin, what are you hearing about what impact these Fox series is having on people? Who is watching it?

  2. Arianna is a moron.

    I made the same Jungian analysis re: Obama — that he uses our beloved universal archetypes such as “HOPE”, in order to appeal to the collective unconscious, and make an end-run around actually having to give specifics to his policies — in January of 2008!

    Arianna and the rest of the BOTs though didn’t see it then with Bambi because they were too mesmerized. They dismissed the psychological analysis….because well, that’s what psychos do when confronted with evidence. So…why should we believe anything they say now?

    Idiots.

  3. I would like to see that woman who sat next to that tub of lard Roosevelt during the Rules and By=laws Committee meeting on Fox to explain why she allowed obama to steal the nomination. I would like her to explain herself, that would hinge on if she is an honorable honest person, of course.

    I also wish Charlie Rangel would write a book – quickly.

  4. Could a voter in a primary state sue for what transpired specifically in Denver? We don’t know what the original counts were. Is there a way to pry this open with some kind of civil suit?

  5. ROFL, now even that cesspool Politico is calling for an Obama – Clinton 2012 ticket. 🙄

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/40523.html

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    Obama-Clinton ticket for 2012

    With midterm elections approaching, and many focusing on politics, more than a few people want to determine what the tea leaves might mean for 2012 — when the “Big One” is on us again.

    It would be good for President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party to address some important issues — now.

    The president’s poll numbers can be read different ways, depending on who is doing the reading. One thing is clear, though: He has to improve his favorability numbers, as well as the unsettled national mood reflected in the “right track/wrong track” indicators. Neither is easy. Nor is there a simple fix.

    But one thing Obama can do is reconnect with the 2008 campaign themes he used to barnstorm the nation: “audacity’ and “change.”

    Since Obama has expressed admiration for the portrait of Abraham Lincoln that Doris Kearns Goodwin paints in “Team of Rivals,” he could do the 16th president one better: He should name Hillary Clinton as his running mate in 2012. That would be both needed change and audacious.
    Clinton has been nothing but a team player who has earned good marks since being asked to serve as secretary of state. She has skillfully navigated the globe and been tough and commanding when the moment called for it (with Iran) and graceful and diplomatic when situations required (navigating complex relations with Russia, Pakistan and China).

    Has her time as secretary of state been perfect? No. Has she ended these 18 months with the stature of someone ready and able to be president were the moment to call for it? The answer, unequivocally, is “yes.”

    Since the heady days of the 2009 Inauguration, middle-class independents have grown increasingly distant from Obama. Working-class voters — always more enamored of Clinton — have grown even more wary and distrustful of the Chicagoan. Both voting blocs pose the danger of serious defection in 2012. Without their support, Obama cannot win.

    With this state of political fragility, Obama needs to reevaluate the policy advisers who brought him here. That leads to the threshold question of whether Joe Biden should remain on the ticket. I say no.

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    More at the link…http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/40523.html

  6. A sort-of interesting critique of Obama from a left viewpoint:

    http://www.zcommunications.org/the-fall-of-obama-by-alexander-cockburn

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    The Fall Of Obama

    The man who seized the White House by fomenting a mood of irrational expectation is now facing the bitter price exacted by reality. The reality is that there can be no “good” American president. It’s an impossible hand to play. Obama is close to being finished.

    The nation’s first black president promised change at the precise moment when no single man, even if endowed with the communicative powers of Franklin Roosevelt, the politic mastery of Lyndon Johnson, the brazen agility of Bill Clinton, could turn the tide that has been carrying America to disaster for 30 years.

    This summer many Americans are frightened. Over 100,000 of them file for bankruptcy every month. Three million homeowners face foreclosure this year. Add them to the 2.8 million who were foreclosed in 2009, Obama’s first year in office. Nearly seven million have been without jobs in the last year for six months or longer. By the time you tot up the people who have given up looking for work and the people on part-time, the total is heading toward 20 million.

    Fearful people are irrational. So are racists. Obama is the target of insane charges. A hefty percentage of Americans believe that he is a socialist – a charge as ludicrous as accusing the Archbishop of Canterbury of being a closet Druid. Obama reveres the capitalist system. He admires the apex predators of Wall Street who showered his campaign treasury with millions of dollars. The frightful catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico stemmed directly from the green light he and his Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, gave to BP.

    It is not Obama’s fault that for 30 years America’s policy – under Reagan, both Bushes and Bill Clinton – has been to export jobs permanently to the Third World. The jobs that Americans now desperately seek are no longer here, in the homeland, and never will be. They’re in China, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, Indonesia.

    No stimulus program, giving money to cement contractors to fix potholes along the federal interstate highway system, is going to bring those jobs back. Highly trained tool and die workers, the aristocrats of the manufacturing sector, are flipping hamburgers – at best – for $7.50 an hour because U.S. corporations sent their jobs to Guangzhou, with the approval of politicians flush with the money of the “free trade” lobby.

    It is not Obama’s fault that across 30 years more and more money has floated up to the apex of the social pyramid till America is heading back to where it was in the 1880s, a nation of tramps and millionaires. It’s not his fault that every tax break, every regulation, every judicial decision tilts toward business and the rich. That was the neoliberal America conjured into malign vitality back in the mid 1970s.

    But it is Obama’s fault that he did not understand this, that always, from the getgo, he flattered Americans with paeans to their greatness, without adequate warning of the political and corporate corruption destroying America and the resistance he would face if he really fought against the prevailing arrangements that were destroying America. He offered them a free and easy pass to a better future, and now they see that the promise was empty.

    It’s Obama’s fault, too, that, as a communicator, he cannot rally and inspire the nation from its fears. From his earliest years he has schooled himself not to be excitable, not to be an angry black man who would be alarming to his white friends at Harvard and his later corporate patrons. Self-control was his passport to the guardians of the system, who were desperate to find a symbolic leader to restore America’s credibility in the world after the disasters of the Bush era. He is too cool.

    So, now Americans in increasing numbers have lost confidence in him. For the first time in the polls negative assessments outnumber the positive. He no longer commands trust. His support is drifting down to 40 per cent. The straddle that allowed him to flatter corporate chieftains at the same time as blue-collar workers now seems like the most vapid opportunism. The casual campaign pledge to wipe out al-Quaida in Afghanistan is now being cashed out in a disastrous campaign viewed with dismay by a majority of Americans.

    The polls portend disaster. It now looks as though the Republicans may well recapture not only the House but, conceivably, the Senate as well. The public mood is so contrarian that, even though polls show that voters think the Democrats may well have better solutions on the economy than Republicans, they will vote against incumbent Democrats in the midterm elections next fall. They just want to throw the bums out.

    Obama has sought out Bill Clinton to advise him in this desperate hour. If Clinton is frank, he will remind Obama that his own hopes for a progressive first term were destroyed by the failure of his health reform in the spring of 1993. By August of that year, he was importing a Republican, David Gergen, to run the White House.

    Obama had his window of opportunity last year, when he could have made jobs and financial reform his prime objectives. That’s what Americans hoped for. Mesmerized by economic advisers who were creatures of the banks, he instead plunged into the Sargasso Sea of “health reform,” wasted the better part of a year, and ended up with something that pleases no one.

    What can save Obama now? It’s hard even to identify a straw he can grasp at. It’s awfully early in the game to say it, but, as Marlene Dietrich said to Orson Welles in Touch of Evil, “your future is all used up.”

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  7. Admin, I disagree to one statement in the above article: We have no doubt that Sarah Palin is not a particularly well educated person, but we also have no doubt that Sarah Palin is one very smart woman who understands very well what she does and how she does it.

    Sarah,according to wiki: Sarah Palin Education Background
    Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College in Hilo, Hawaii, in 1982 for a semester, where she majored in Business Administration, and transferred in 1983 to North Idaho College for the 1983-1984 school year. After winning a scholarship, she transferred to Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term before transferring back to the University of Idaho the following year where she finished out her college education and received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987, where she also minored in political science.

    And according to the US Census Bureau 2010, 27.2% of the US population have a bachelor’s degree or higher. So, not all 27.2% are B.S. degrees. So, Sarah has more
    education than 72.8% of the population. How can that be equated with the statement that she “is not a particularly well educated person?” Evidently her educational background has been vetted. So, I would put her education up as stellar especially compared with The Won who has shown nothing to verify that he actually has an education, nor has he been vetted.

    Now, if one if equating her speech pattern with either a lesser intelligence level or not being well educated, then heaven help you. For one has nothing to do with the other. Her speech pattern is a force of habit and not a measure of intellect or education.

  8. Why is it so many of us have been able to see right through Arianna, Kos, and their ilk all along? Oh yes, because they have NEVER been real Democrats! It has driven me nuts for years now that so many life long Democrats were so gullible to fall for their ulterior motives, and happily if blindly prance off a cliff with (and for) them. How can they not see how much they have been manipulated by these charlatans?

    How special of Gloria Allred to get on TV and talk about the convention corruption. Last time I heard of her she was invited to come on PUMA Radio after the convention to talk about it. But, instead she spent the entire show campaigning for Obama and trying hard to persuade the crowd if we didn’t fall in line to vote for him that Roe vs Wade would be overturned. Anyone here remember this? I was livid that she did that, and using the same ole abortion stick trick as the rest of the Obots to scare the wimmenz. How did that work out for her?

  9. My gosh, this is such a good post. I have heard the name of Amy Suskind before, but honestly, I really don’t know anything about her. Yet, her words ring true, LOUD AND CLEAR!

    Arianna Huffington is just weird. She is like a ball of slime, or is it a slime ball? One can’t quite box her in because she seems to metastasize like a cancer in the body, ready to reposition herself in some unsuspecting, and undeserving place as she sees fit to do so. I wonder if she has parkinson’s disease? Does she not remember what her past at all? What a blatantly self-serving witch she is. Stating that Sarah isn’t smart enough to even know what she is doing actually made me laugh. It’s not Sarah who isn’t smart, it’s Arianna that is not smart for writing such a STOOOPID comment. I’m laughing again as the STOOOPID LEFT destroys themselves.

    I also agree with Fifth Dimension, that obama’s name (I think I’ll continue to make the first initial lower case for now on as a sign of his insignificance) could easily have been substituted for Palin’s name in Arianna’s twisted writing. Oh, just one more reiteration, there sure are some STOOPID people representing the American left.

  10. ShortTermer,

    Thanks for pointing that out because I wanted to make a similar comment as was made by you, but I forgot. You are correct as it is not a fair thing to write that Sarah is not particularly well educated. One can make a comparison between Sarah’s education, with say someone like Hillary, and arguably conclude that Hillary is more educated, but making a comment about Sarah not being a well educated person is not supported by the facts as you have noted. Also, there is not just schooling to be considered either. There are life experiences that people learn from, and I suspect that Sarah Palin has had many that she has learned from, while the almighty obama, has had some experiences, but based on his current actions, he was probably too high at the time to have learned anything from them.

  11. basement angel said:
    Could a voter in a primary state sue for what transpired specifically in Denver? We don’t know what the original counts were. Is there a way to pry this open with some kind of civil suit?

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    Hi, nice to see you.

    Possibly libel/slander? Write up a true account, hope some bot disputes it and insults you. Then sue the bot for libel/slandering you.

    Hm, Paula Jones’s suit was used to find and pry open secrets of Lewinsky. Wonder if there’s a parallel.

  12. The Where’s the line? video was disturbing, even the clips with Mo in them. I don’t like seeing this shit. I do have one question though. If I, as a man, say a guy is a bastard, is it not ok to refer to a female as a bitch, where the meaning of both statements are basically the same… meaning I find either the guy and lady to be someone not likeable, mean-spirited, evil, or a host of other negatives? Is it misogynistic to use the term, even though I also use the word bastard when I feel it valid?

  13. Now, if one if equating her speech pattern with either a lesser intelligence level or not being well educated, then heaven help you. For one has nothing to do with the other. Her speech pattern is a force of habit and not a measure of intellect or education.

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    I grew up in a small rural town and I recognize that pattern. It comes of speaking, eg, at the PTA without a microphone or a platform. You have to repeat phrases because people in the back of the room probably didn’t hear you the first time. Or it’s part of the rhetoric, like a topic sentence and then a summing up, which are the same, repeated. That’s how you do emphasis when the acoustics aren’t good enough for subtle eloquence.

    For people of that kind of rural culture, it’s probably an intelligent choice on her part. Whether she can do another style I don’t know. It was not a good style for interviews with Gibson or Couric; but probably they would have condemned whatever she did.

  14. Baseball Rules:

    Strike One: DNC refusal to investigate 2000 complaints of voter fraud and intimidation against Hillary supporters

    Strike Two: RBC stealing votes from Hillary and awarding them to Obama who did not even campaign in the State

    Strike Three: DNC condones bribes and intimidation of Hillary supporters at the Convention and refusal to count votes

    Conclusion: this is not a political party any more. It is a thugocracy run by global financial interests. The record is clear, cogent and convincing: they betrayed Hillary, disenfranchised her supporters (supra), and violated its own fundamental rules. Anybody who knows these facts and still supports this Obama should have their head examined—by Doctor Kervokian.

  15. “Obama is the target of insane charges. A hefty percentage of Americans believe that he is a socialist …”

    Cockburn doesn’t get it. Whether Obama himself is a socialist is besides the point — Obama is backed by Communists and he inspires Communism. The sickness of Jornolism is straight out of Animal Farm and is a direct result of Obama. The crap that Obama preaches, that Cockburn criticizes, is straight out of Lenin’s utopian playbook. Those Stalinesque pictures of Obama with a halo make me sick. Teaching schoolchildren to sing Hosannah to the Leader. Suppressing the rights of Americans to criticize their President by playing the race card. Appointing Communists as czars. Empowering the New Black Panther Party. Praising Mao. Self-avowed Communists getting standing ovations. And Donna Brazille’s so-called New Democrat Majority, if it ever took hold, is more susceptible to Communism. It’s all directly connected to Obama.

    What’s the difference between socialism, communism, Marxism — who cares? They don’t mean what they say anyway. China has a market economy — does that mean it’s ‘ludicrous’ to say China is a Communist nation? They’re still ruled by the Communist party. We talk about ‘sowing the seeds of fascism’ and the ‘slippery slope into fascism.’ The same applies to Communism. Obama is the Great Hope of ultra-leftist radicals who don’t believe in the Constitution, free speech, limited or representative government, and who are more coordinated than ever.

  16. Obama is pushing this nation away from Constitutional government where the people are sovereign to a totalitarian order. The first directive of a totalitarian leader is this: give me your children. The second thing I want is your mind. The third thing is I want to control your entire life. That what Mr. Obama is.

    Webster Definition: totalitarianism is a form of government that subordinates all aspects of its citizens’ lives to the authority of the state, with a single charismatic leader as the ultimate authority. The term was coined in the early 1920s by Benito Mussolini, but totalitarianism has existed throughout history throughout the world (e.g., Qin dynasty China). It is distinguished from dictatorship and authoritarianism by its supplanting of all political institutions and all old legal and social traditions with new ones to meet the state’s needs, which are usually highly focused. Large-scale, organized violence may be legitimized. The police operate without the constraint of laws and regulations. Where pursuit of the state’s goal is the only ideological foundation for such a government, achievement of the goal can never be acknowledged. Hannah Arendt’s Origins of Totalitarianism (1951) is the standard work on the subject.

    One of my favorite political scientists: Hannah Arendt was a German-Jewish writer and teacher whose 1951 book, The Origins of Totalitarianism, made her internationally famous. It was the first popular critical analysis of political movements that led to the world wars and death camps of the 20th century. Arendt grew up in Hanover and studied philosophy in Marburg with Martin Heidegger, in Freiburg with Edmund Husserl and in Heidelberg with Karl Jaspers. Arrested by the Gestapo in 1933 and briefly jailed, she made her way to Paris and, when World War II began, to New York (1941). During her career she had several teaching positions, including a professorship at Princeton University, and earned a reputation as an expert on moral issues in the wake of World War II. Her 1963 book on the war crimes trial of Nazi Germany’s Adolf Eichmann, Eichmann in Jerusalem, is famous for her term “the banality of evil”; she characterized Eichmann as a thoughtless bureaucrat rather than a demon, and was criticized by some for what was seen as a lack of sympathy for victims of the Holocaust. Her books made her famous beyond academic circles, and include On Revolution (1963) and the posthumously published (and incomplete) The Life of the Mind (1978). Arendt had a love affair with Heidegger, who was married and 17 years her senior… She became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1950.

  17. So called “global warming” is just a secret ploy by wacko treehuggers to make America energy independent, clean our air and water, improve the fuel efficiency of our vehicles, kick-start 21st-century industries, and make our cities safer and more livable. Don’t let them get away with it!
    — inscription on a cup

  18. Panic has officially set in. Huffington likes to see herself as a global thinker and trend setter who hops on any trend passing by her elitist throne. She swings fast and large. And Politico saying O needs Hillary as a veep? Please. These are people who are trying to remain relevant. Women know what the Dems did and they have long memories. Obama making overtures to women is like an abuser who offers dinner out after beating the crap out of them. He doesn’t seem to understand that they can say no and go out with someone else or stay home. Or even more surprising call the police (Fox News) and tell everyone what a piece of shit he is. Obama is scheduled to be in my state later this month. State wide Democratic candidates have to be about 300 miles in the opposite direction at the exact moment he is here. So he is just going to shake down, er raise money, but they are having some trouble getting Democrats to commit to even showing up. Word is if they can’t get enough they will have to ship attendees in from out of state or cancel. He is poison. It is reaching the point that it will cost more to host him than he can raise.

  19. The bloody cheek of Politico wanting Hillary to bail that useless lump of nothing again in 2012. No thanks. I do not want him leaving a stained stench on her whatsoever.

  20. He’s worried….Obama is obsessed with approval.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/obama-mocks-polls-but-spe_n_663553.html (so sorry for posting from this rag of shit but it is informative today)

    Obama Mocks Polls But Spends More On Them ($4.4M) Than Bush Did

    During his daily press briefing on July 13, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was peppered with questions about why the president’s popularity numbers are in decline and his policy positions are so difficult to sell.

    ABC News’s Jake Tapper sought reaction to the network’s newest poll showing that 51 percent of respondents would rather have Republicans running Congress. CNN’s Ed Henry wanted to know why, in that same poll, “six in 10 Americans have little or no faith in the President to make the right decisions.” CBS’s Chip Reid then pointed to his own network’s poll showing that only 13 percent of respondents thought the president’s economic programs had affected them personally.

    Exasperated, Gibbs deployed a classic rejoinder: mocking the polling-obsessed media culture.

    “You know, in all honesty, Chip, there isn’t a website in the world that doesn’t have a new poll every day,” the press secretary replied. “And if you spent a lot of time sitting around worrying about polls rather than worrying about the people that you’re trying to help, I’m sure you’d get discouraged. But we’re way too busy to sit around looking at polls.”

    Too busy to look at polls? Perhaps. But not too poor to pay for them. While Gibbs routinely chides members of the press for obsessing about the day-to-day temperamental swings of the American public, behind the scenes the White House has poured plenty of money into conducting its own public opinion polls. Through June 9, 2010, the administration, via the Democratic National Committee, has spent at least $4.45 million on the services of seven different pollsters, according to records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. (The Huffington Post looked into only those expenditures that totaled more than $5,000.)

    That total represents only 18 months into the administration. During the first 24 months of the Bush administration, the Republican National Committee spent $3.1 million on polling according to a 2003 study done by Brookings. During the 2005-2006 years of the Bush administration, the RNC spent just north of $1.23 million on “surveys,” “focus groups,” and “polling,” according to an analysis of Center for Responsive Politics data (they spent millions, instead, on telemarketing services). So far this cycle, the RNC has spent slightly more than $1 million on those same activities. (The Huffington Post did not examine data from the 2008 cycle because spending totals were affected by the presidential election.)

    read on……….

  21. An incredibly powerful and inspirational post, admin. Thank you. I am glad you included the two paragraphs beginning “Hillary Clinton actually received MORE VOTES than obama in the Dem Primaries and Caucuses of 2008. Let that sink in.”

    As for anything Obama in the future, for some reason a line of a song from the 1950’s or early ’60’s has begun circling my mind: Got along with outcha before I metcha, gonna get along withoutcha now. Gonna find somebody who’s twice as cute ’cause I didn’t like ya any how.

  22. Again with the obama-clinton ticket?

    They stole the election from her, they ripped the heart out of the democratic party. Now they want blood?

    These obama addicts will do anything to keep their idol in power, and Hillary is supposed to give her life supply to helping them achive their goal.

  23. Even more Chelsea Clinton wedding details: Presidential moonwalking, the gift bags, the friend’s band — and where’d that crazy Oprah rumor get started?

    Another memorable moment from Chelsea Clinton’s wedding: Bill Clinton, on the dance floor Saturday night, making a very proud attempt at the moonwalk.

    See? We knew we could cadge a few more details from the guests, once they’d recovered from a three-day weekend of festivities that didn’t end until Sunday afternoon, with brunch for all 400 at a restored barn outside of Rhinebeck, N.Y.

    And how about those guests? Ever more indication that this truly was Chelsea and Marc Mezvinsky’s wedding, not a fundraising opportunity or Renaissance Weekend Redux. The only Cabinet-level guests from the White House years appeared to be Madeleine Albright and John Podesta. Podesta’s predecessors as chief of staff, like Mack McLarty and Erskine Bowles, not in evidence. Instead: Many lesser-known staffers who’d spent more time with Chelsea, including two White House butlers. And Chelsea’s spinning instructor, manicurist, family doctor. And scads of 30-something friends of the bride and groom.

    Out of that category came Friday’s rehearsal-dinner entertainment: Tim Blane, a Boston-based singer-songwriter, whose band has a jazzy pop sound. The Potomac native was a Sidwell Friends classmate of the bride’s. In an e-mail he told us it was an “absolute joy” and honor to play for his friend — but sorry, no other details, out of respect for their privacy.

    Guests got gift bags that included pretzels, peaches and bottles of wine from the fortuitously named Clinton Vineyards in nearby Clinton Corners, N.Y.

    Oh, and so you know, turns out that the jewelry Hillary Clinton wore with her Oscar de la Renta dress — a pink crystal necklace and earrings — was custom-made by D.C.’s Ann Hand store.

    As a month of speculative frenzy finally quieted, we checked in with Jim Langan, editor of the Hudson Valley News, which had the biggest hit of the news cycle — but also the biggest miss. The small-town weekly broke the news that this super-secret wedding would happen in Rhinebeck. But it also trumpeted a scoop — echoed across the mainstream media — that guests would include Oprah Winfrey, President Obama, Steven Spielberg and Ted Turner. None of it true.

    Regarding the first story, Langan said, “We’re pretty pleased. … It certainly raised our visibility.” As for the second, he wouldn’t say what went so wrong, but “I can think of a couple sources I won’t use again.”

    He added: “There was a palpable disappointment around town when they realized the biggest celebrity was going to be Ted Danson.”

    Finally, guests had barely cleared out of the wedding reception when the grand estate where it was held — Astor Courts, the beaux-arts mansion built for John Jacob Astor IV — was put on the market for $12.million. The headline on the ad in Sunday’s New York Post: “Yes, It’s for Sale. Home of the Recent Celebrity Wedding.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2010/08/rs-_chelsea_round_up.html

  24. Aug 02, 2010

    George W. Bush schedules his first post-White House TV interview

    George W. Bush will give NBC his first in-depth interview since leaving the White House — but not until after the mid-term elections.

    The interview, with Today’s Matt Lauer, will air on Nov. 8 around the time of the release of his book, Decision Points.

    NBC said Bush “will discuss the defining decisions he has made in his personal and political life.”

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/08/george-w-bush-schedules-his-first-post-white-house-tv-interview/1

  25. Canaan
    August 3rd, 2010 at 2:27 am
    ================================

    You’re absolutely correct. The only thing these people, movements, etc. are truly concerned about are their own power. Anything else is secondary.

  26. Democrats Keep Distance From Each Other

    With midterm elections looming on the horizon, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi skirted questions on ABC’s “This Week” about the ethics charges pending against two Democratic members of the House, illuminating the fact that, for most Democrats these days, the prevailing tactic seems to be “every man for himself.”

    “I’m totally out of the loop,” Pelosi told ABC’s Christiane Amanpour. “It is independent. It is confidential, classified, secret, whatever. We don’t know what it is.”

    And just as this leader of the Democratic Party has chosen to distance herself from the alleged wrongdoings of her colleagues, so have numerous democratic congressional hopefuls chosen to distance themselves from the current unpopularity of their Party’s leadership.

    Take Georgia’s most prominent Democrat, former Gov. Roy Barnes, for example. When President Obama travels to Atlanta on Monday to headline a Democratic National Committee fundraiser and address the Disabled American Veterans convention, Barnes plans to be campaigning for voters’ favor in Southern Georgia, more than 100 miles away.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/democrats-congressional-distance/story?id=11301899

    translation to Obama……stay the hell away.

  27. I cannot believe it. We are down to a good sales report by Coach as a sign the economy is recovering. Let’s see, they have tried and tried to say the economy is reviving, only to have a new group of figures prove they are wrong. For me, unless we see some sign of recovery in CA (who is at 12.5 jobless), the rest of it does not matter. CA is like the 5th largest economy in the world.

    O really has not taken the steps for a rapid recovery for the Nov Elections. He feel he can turn it around for himself in 2012. However, many judge people with first impressions, and it will be interesting to see if those first impressions can be reversed, regardless of what ever recovery they can concoct in the media.

    I guess if Dooney has good sales we really are on a role. How does buying an expensive purse negate people losing their homes and still filing for bankrupcy.

  28. I so totally agree with Canaan
    August 3rd, 2010 at 2:27 am

    The Weather Underground Manifesto espouses to use any means necessary to reach the goal of communism and a dictator. It appears to be their playbook, along with Alinsky methods.

    Back in 2007, I stated on this site that The Won’s goal was to be the totalatarian dictator of our once great and proud country, perhaps of the world.

    So many Americans still, after all this time, are playing ostrich. Or they are focusing on petty issues of ‘party.’ Even with the demise of the Democratic Party, there is still only a ‘one party’ system here with the two so called parties being the opposite wings of the same bird. We can all play ostrich if we want, but it will be our grandchildren and future generations who will have to suffer with the decisions that collectively we make right now, possibly forevermore.

  29. LIMBOBAMA…HOW LOW CAN HE GO?

    Lowest point yet. There’s a graph since 2009; look at the red (disapproval) line down near 20% in Jan. 2009, finally and thoroughly crosses the ever-decreasing black (approval) line.

    realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

  30. Could a voter in a primary state sue for what transpired specifically in Denver? We don’t know what the original counts were. Is there a way to pry this open with some kind of civil suit?
    ————————–
    That question was looked at and the answer was no. The political party was deemed to be a private entity free to make (and break) its own rules as it sees fit). If there was a proven incident involving racial discrimination, that would be different because on that issue they will bootstrap, as they did with liquor licenses issued to private clubs which gave the federal government a colorable basis to intervene but here not. Another example would be acts of physical violence under the police powers of the state, but the scrutiny would be narrow. We tried to get one of the states interested in pursuing a cause of action and that was the reaction. To be honest with you, I do not remember what the specific issue was but it arose at or near the time of the convention. As I recall, there was an issue of standing as well, as we saw in the Berg case.

  31. MOP, I have been so worried about my employment status….I live in the middle of no where and jobs are hard to comeby…so I have been working PRN very weird hours…so this comes as a blessing!

  32. confloyd Congratulations!!

    I had a friend in Alameda, CA who just got a job also, and it is a decent commute, and they can stay living where they are. A real plus in SF. They met the salary requirments also, which were in the 6 figure range.

  33. Dem pollster says voters not buying Bush-boogeyman strategy, i’m laughing because Almost two-thirds of respondents see Republican control of Congress as, well, Hope and Change. Talk about a backfire on Obama.

    If Democrats want to convince anyone not already firmly in their own camp to support their candidates, they need a better argument than BushBushBushBushBush. National Journal reports the results of a poll commissioned by a Democrat-leaning think tank that shows voters don’t consider today’s GOP as watercarriers for Barack Obama’s predecessor. Almost two-thirds of respondents see Republican control of Congress as, well, Hope and Change:

    Dems have tried repeatedly to tie the GOP to Bush’s economic policies, which remain highly unpopular. But so far, that hasn’t worked, according to officials at the Dem-leaning Third Way think tank.

    “Just eighteen months after President Bush left office with the nation’s economy in historic freefall, two-thirds of Americans now see congressional Republicans and their economic ideas as new and completely separate from those of the former president,” the group wrote in a strategy memo sent to Dem leaders last month.

    A majority, 53%, of Americans still blame Pres. Bush for the country’s economic woes, while 26% pin the blame on Pres. Obama. Only 14% give Bush excellent or good ratings on handling the federal budget, and 28% say he helped the middle class, according to a survey from Benenson Strategy Group.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/03/dem-pollster-says-voters-not-buying-bush-boogeyman-strategy/

  34. On the subject of totalitarianism, Orwell is a classic example as well. Unlike Hannah Arendt who was a victim of the totalitarian system, Orwell was an insider, and his insights into the totalitarian mindset are those of a fellow traveler. This link is to a website which features the 10 most depressing insights into that mindset. If you read the comments you find a war between obots (big daddy, scorpio, and others we saw at Taylor Marsh, especially when Taylor went over to the darkside), and the Republicans. The Obots claim that the neo-cons were the epitome of Orwell, whereas the Republicans claim it is more typical of Islam, and by extension Obama. I think you can find elements of it in both the neo-cons and the obots. But I do think Obama is a far more virulent strain of the disease, which is fatal to our democracy. I am reasonable sure his worshippers would not hesitate to burn the village to save it, as they used to say in Viet Nam. That is the prevalent concern.

    http://alternativereel.com/includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00085

  35. Paul Krugman Gives Up

    By Fred Douglass http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/paul_krugman_gives_up_1.html
    A marvelous thing happened over on Paul Krugman’s blog at the New York Times last week. Krugman effectively conceded defeat on a range of economic debates. Who defeated him? People who posted comments on his New York Times blog. Mere commenters. …. Etc
    ————————
    Defeated by anti-Keynes arguments he could not counter…interesting article – a few interesting comments, too — especially from “sage”
    =======================
    Confloyd – great news! Five!

  36. NMF, That is great…it such a sacrifice when you have to move…I have two beloved Pit Bulls and they are not welcome everywhere…my little home is paid for and I am 60 y.o….so moving was out of the question….now I will be able to work as long as I am healthy which is what America is coming to….no Wal-Mart greeter job for me…LOL!

  37. confloyd
    August 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 am
    I have some great news to share with everyone….

    I JUST A FULLTIME JOB!!! ITS CLOSE TO MY HOME!!!
    &&&&&&&&

    Congradulations. Now you get to grumble about Mondays again.

    Glad it worked out!

  38. What a Fucking mess.

    Washington, D.C. – Four months after U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously declared “We have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it,”a congressional panel has released the first chart illustrating the 2,801 page health care law President Obama signed into law in March.

    Developed by the Joint Economic Committee minority, led by U.S Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas and Rep. Kevin Brady of Texas, the detailed organization chart displays a bewildering array of new government agencies, regulations and mandates.

    “For Americans, as well as Congressional Democrats who didn’t bother to read the bill, this first look at the final health care law confirms what many fear, that reform morphed into a monstrosity of new bureaucracies, mandates, taxes and rationing that will drive up health care costs, hurt seniors and force our most intimate health care choices into the hands of Washington bureaucrats,”said Brady, the committee’s senior House Republican. “If this is what passes for health care reform in America, then God help us all.”

    Brownback, the committee’s ranking member, added, “This updated chart illustrates the overwhelming expansion of government control over health choices and the bewildering complexity facing everyone affected by this law. It doesn’t take long to see how the recently signed health care bill causes a hugely expensive and explosive expansion of federal control over health care. Personal choices that should be between a doctor and a patient will quickly be strangled in a never ending web of bureaucracy.”

    Senate Steering Committee Chairman Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina) called Obamacare “a bureaucratic nightmare. The Democrats’ takeover of health care creates a byzantine network of 159 new federal programs and bureaucracies to make decisions that should be between just the patient and their doctor. It should concern everyone that at the center of this regulatory web is the new CMS chief, Donald Berwick, who has championed rationing and European socialized medicine. Americans were rightly outraged that this big government bill was rushed through Congress before anyone read or fully understood the bill’s consequences. Republicans will fight to repeal this reckless takeover and to ensure health care freedom to American families.”

    In addition to capturing the massive expansion of government and the overwhelming complexity of new regulations and taxes, the chart portrays:

    $569 billion in higher taxes;
    $529 billion in cuts to Medicare;
    swelling of the ranks of Medicaid by 16 million;
    17 major insurance mandates; and
    the creation of two new bureaucracies with powers to impose future rationing: the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute and the Independent Payments Advisory Board.

    Brady admits committee analysts could not fit the entire health care bill on one chart. “This portrays only about one-third of the complexity of the final bill. It’s actually worse than this.”

    http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx08_brady/pr_100728_hc_chart.html

  39. Canaan: “What’s the difference between socialism, communism, Marxism — who cares?”
    Not caring about what these concepts mean doesn’t give you any particular right to make sweeping pronouncements about them.
    “Obama is the Great Hope of ultra-leftist radicals who don’t believe in the Constitution, free speech, limited or representative government, and who are more coordinated than ever.”
    Well, then, at least o is a hope for somebody. But you seem to imply that socialists (I qualify as one) don’t believe in the Constitution and so forth, which is an ignorant thing for you to say. While socialist, I am very conservative in one important respect: I adhere strongly to the 18th century Enlightenment upon which the Constitution, free speech, limited and representative government are founded, and I also have no respect for o, whom I certainly do not regard as my Great Hope.
    As regards all of the freedoms we cherish, I also have a very 18th-century attitude: Each freedom implies a corresponding responsibility. We are free to bear arms, for example, but we bear responsibility for what we do with them (the NRA would heartily agree). And regarding the freedom of speech, you in particular should keep in mind that what you say about socialism, communism, Marxism, ultra-leftist radicals and o is irresponsible, ignorant blither.

  40. CAN SLAPPED TOGETHER FRANKEN-CARE BILL SURVIVE THE LEGAL CHALLENGES??

    Ummmm, probably not.

    latimes.com/health/la-na-healthcare-ruling-20100803,0,4564535.story

    State has right to challenge healthcare law, judge rules
    =================

    A Virginia lawsuit contesting the healthcare mandate is not dismissed. The ruling could lead to a potentially drawn-out legal battle for the Obama administration.

    By Noam N. Levey, Tribune Washington Bureau

    August 3, 2010

    Reporting from Washington — The Obama administration lost an early legal skirmish over the new healthcare law Monday when a federal judge declined to dismiss Virginia’s lawsuit challenging a key part of the landmark legislation.

    U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson did not rule on the central issue in the lawsuit brought by Virginia Atty. Gen. Kenneth Cuccinelli — the law’s requirement that most Americans buy health insurance beginning in 2014.

    But the judge swept aside the Obama administration’s efforts to quash the legal contest in its infancy, ruling that the state of Virginia has the right to sue. Citing the sweep of the new law, he also appeared to open the door to a potentially drawn-out legal battle over a core tenet of the health overhaul.

    “While this case raises a host of complex constitutional issues, all seem to distill to the single question of whether or not Congress has the power to regulate — and tax — a citizen’s decision not to participate in interstate commerce,” wrote Hudson, an appointee of President George W. Bush. “Neither the Supreme Court nor any circuit court of appeals has squarely addressed this issue.”

    President Obama and many healthcare experts think that requiring Americans to buy health coverage — and fining them if they do not — is the only way to assure that healthy people do not game the system by purchasing insurance only after they develop medical problems, thereby pushing up costs for everyone.

    Many legal experts also support the administration’s view that because the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce, lawmakers have broad authority to regulate the health insurance market.

    Critics argue that the insurance requirement is an unprecedented and illegal expansion of federal power. On Monday, Cuccinelli, a conservative Republican, and other opponents cheered the judge’s ruling.

    “Today’s decision makes us very optimistic about the prospects of our own legal challenge,” said Karen Harned, executive director of the Small Business Legal Center at the National Federation of Independent Business.

    The traditionally conservative federation has joined in a second legal challenge brought by officials — almost all Republican — in 20 other states. A federal judge in Florida is expected to rule this year on the administration’s motion to dismiss that case.

    In Washington, Obama administration officials downplayed the Virginia ruling as procedural, while emphasizing the importance of the mandate and other benefits of the healthcare law that would be imperiled by a legal challenge.

    “People who make an economic decision to forgo health insurance do not opt out of the healthcare market, but instead shift their costs to others when they become ill or are involved in an accident and cannot pay,” Stephanie Cutter, assistant to the president for special projects, said in a blog post Monday.

  41. great news, confloyd.

    Now be sure to keep your politics to yourself and don’t hobnob with the resident obots.

    😉

  42. nomobama: “If I, as a man, say a guy is a bastard, is it not ok to refer to a female as a bitch, where the meaning of both statements are basically the same…”

    Basically, they’re not the same. A bastard is a man (not a woman, actually) whose mother was not married to his father and is therefore disinherited – he would be a false claimant to any privileges stemming from the father. By extension, anybody who grabs for more than he is actually is worth is a bastard = someone who thinks a lot of himself = dishonest person, etc. I’ve never heard the word applied to a woman; but theoretically, in this extended sense, it could be.

    Female dogs, or bitches, are reputed to be nasty. I have heard women, though, refer to a man as their bitch, meaning their boyfriend. I have also heard women refer to themselves and each other as bitches, meaning they’re mean enough to get what they want, get things done, or overcome conventions and obstacles. So, “bitch” seems to be taking on positive meanings these days and can be a proudly worn label.

    Your question is, would it be sexist, as a man, to use “bitch” against a woman? I don’t think so. “Bitch” has now been diluted beyond recognition or any original meaning, when you hear jokes like “Life’s a bitch! Then you die.”

    I suggest you just stop asking yourself the question and try it out with your neighbors!

  43. Still reading your excellent post Admin, and the whole idea of women in politics after 2008 leaves my head spinning.

    The DNC and ObamaPuppetMasters thought Barry could ‘win’ by his skin color, age and plastic flowery speeches…

    …that women and men that supported Hillary were not necessary when they knew how to scam the voting in caucus states and game the system with threatening the delegates.

    Add in the pay to play media tactics, Hillary and her voters were disposal.

    As BarryBoy continues to tank in the polls for months, no matter what he does, (passing a flim-flam ‘hell care’ bill, spending like a child king), he thinks he can reach the women he has lost by going on the View, talking in his Slick Rick the Poverty Pimp manner and all the women will swoon back to his bed.

    This guy and his handlers are idiots!!!!!!!!

    Women have their daggers drawn, and Sarah told him what he will end up like without the women in his party…

    “This man has no cojones!”

    PUMAs knew he was an empty suit from day one.

  44. Congratulations, confloyd! 🙂

    Also, thanks, JanH, for posting that WaPo column on the wedding. Reliable Source has always been good at Clinton coverage by ignoring the sensational stuff (ie. the estimated cost of the nuptials).

  45. FYI…

    washingtonexaminer.com/politics/blogs/yeas-and-nays/Like-father_-Chris-Matthews_-daughter-tackles-the-deficit-1004913-99584284.html

    Twenty-one-year-old Caroline Matthews, daughter of “Hardball” host Chris Matthews, is focusing her summer on the national debt. She’s an intern for President Obama’s federal deficit commission and, this week, she’s biking from Philadelphia to Washington to “break the debt cycle” for an organization she helped found, Concerned Youth of America.

    *************************************************

    thehudsonvalleynews.com/HVNews/Blog/Entries/2010/7/31_inside_the_Clinton_PRE-PARTY.html

    nice, flattering photo of Hillary and Bill at end…

  46. So Matthews has been bought off then, no surprise there, does that constitute a problem for him if his family is involved in the administration, how can he objectively (and i use that term loosely with him) commentate.

  47. Obama asked to be elected to correct the ‘mistakes’ of the Bush Administration. So what exactly has he done then to correct them……….errrrrrr.

  48. The Trotsky-its call Bullshit on Obama’s Iraq speech:

    Obama hails Iraq war in “withdrawal” speech
    By Bill Van Auken
    3 August 2010
    (snip)
    Obama continued: “Shortly after taking office, I announced our new strategy for Iraq and for a transition to full Iraqi responsibility. And I made it clear that by August 31, 2010 America’s combat mission in Iraq would end. And that is exactly what we are doing—as promised, on schedule.”

    These targets were, in fact, set by Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, in a 2008 status of forces agreement negotiated with the US-backed regime in Baghdad. The incoming Democratic president quickly jettisoned a pledge he had made to pull out all US troops more rapidly, conforming to the original schedule, even as he kept at their posts all of the top civilian and military officials picked by Bush to run the war.
    (snip)
    In extolling the supposed withdrawal from Iraq, Obama hailed the military for “moving out millions of pieces of equipment in one of the largest logistics operations that we’ve seen in decades” and bringing “90,000 of our troops home from Iraq since I took office.”

    He failed to add, however, that these millions of pieces of military hardware and tens of thousands of troops aren’t being brought home, but are instead being shipped to Afghanistan. While reducing the US troop level in Iraq by two thirds, the Obama administration has tripled the size of US forces in Afghanistan, while spreading the war across the border into Pakistan.

    He defended the US war in Afghanistan, however, using the same pretext as his predecessor, claiming that US forces are there to fight al Qaeda and foil terrorist attacks. This, even as US and military and intelligence officials acknowledge that there are less than 100 al Qaeda members in the entire country.
    (snip)
    The claim that all US “combat troops” will be out of Iraq by August 31 is fraudulent. Units previously classified as “combat” troops are merely being relabeled as “advice and assist” brigades, with their mission supposedly restricted to training and “advising” the Iraqi security forces.
    (snip)
    There is little reason to believe that the remaining US troops will be withdrawn from Iraq by the end of 2011. Senior military officers have repeatedly stressed that US forces will remain in the country for many years to come, and Washington has continued to build up and retain control of giant military bases, such as those at Balad, Al Asad and Tallil.

    After seven years of war, costing the US more than $700 billion and the lives of at least 4,400 troops—and an estimated one million Iraqis—the American occupation will continue.
    (snip)

    For its part, the US State Department is reportedly preparing to field its own private army of “security contractors,” i.e., private mercenaries. As McClatchy Newspapers reported, the top US commander in Iraq, Gen. Raymond Odierno flew back to Washington last week to discuss plans for deploying this force. The news service reported that the State Department has already asked the Pentagon for “Black Hawk helicopters; 50 mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles; fuel trucks; high-tech surveillance systems; and other military gear.”
    (snip)

    His administration and the Pentagon know this statement is a barefaced lie. Only days earlier, the Iraqi government issued a report showing that Iraqi casualties for July month had risen to their highest level since May 2008, nearly double the number killed the previous month. In all, the figures compiled by the Iraqi defense, interior and health ministries recorded 635 deaths for the month, 396 of them civilians. In addition, 50 Iraqi soldiers, 89 police officers were killed, along with 100 individuals declared by the Iraqi regime to have been “terrorists.” Nearly another 1,400 Iraqis, the vast majority of them civilians, were wounded.

    The US military heatedly disputed the casualty figures from the Baghdad regime, claiming that the real number killed in “enemy action” was only 222. This figure is absurd on its face. The Associated Press counted 350 Iraqis killed based solely on its own reporting. The news agency considers this a significant underestimate, given that many deaths do not get news coverage.
    (snip)
    etc…etc…etc…

  49. USA Today poll puts Obama approval at 41% – now they are hiding the poll numbers from him.

    But you’ll have a hell of a time finding it at either USA Today or at Gallup, which partnered with the newspaper for the poll. The USA Today lead on the survey is that approval for the war in Afghanistan has dropped since the Wikileaks exposure of internal documents from the military, and that decline is notable, a 12-point plummet in just five months from 48% to 36% approval. But they buried the real lead, which is that Obama is now struggling to keep his approval ratings in the 40s

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/03/usa-today-poll-puts-obama-approval-at-41/

    Meanwhile, in the fifth paragraph:

    Only 41% of those surveyed Tuesday through Sunday approved of the way Obama is handling his job, his lowest rating in the USA TODAY/Gallup Poll since he took office in January 2009. In Gallup’s separate daily tracking poll, his approval was at 45% Monday.

  50. #
    basement angel
    August 3rd, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Could a voter in a primary state sue for what transpired specifically in Denver? We don’t know what the original counts were. Is there a way to pry this open with some kind of civil suit?
    ———
    I’m with ya on this one basement angel, our state didn’t cast any votes in Denver, Nasty moved up the vote before many were in Denver and also they were denied access to contact info with other delegates by the DNC.
    Why is the DNC above the law????????

  51. oops..missed this part:

    “In his speech Monday, Obama touted the “progress” achieved by the seven-year-old US war in occupation in Iraq—which as a candidate he had ostensibly opposed—claiming that “violence in Iraq continues to be near the lowest it’s been in years.”

    His administration and the Pentagon know this statement is a barefaced lie. Only days earlier, the Iraqi government issued a report showing that Iraqi……..

  52. now struggling to keep his approval ratings in the 40s
    ********
    Low 40s is his bottom support level until after the Nov elections…then free fall to next base-line support level of 26%….26% is about twice the number of people who thought that he deserved the “Peace Prize”..ie….the bottom of the barrel.

  53. moononpluto.

    I was there for the last one, walking in the snow with young college kids. Iowa was such a small entity, yet it decided the whole election. If O was successful at anything it was that he was a fake from day one.

  54. 1. It is always sexist and inappropriate to use the word “bitch”. It is a slur that is related to gender, not behavior. You can call someone an asshole, a jerk, but not a “bitch”. Stay away from epithets that relate to one’s race, one’s gender, one’s faith or one’s ethnic background. There are still plenty of names to call people left.

    The fact that hip hop has thoroughly infiltrated our culture with that word doesn’t make it any less offensive.

    2. Obama’s policies are far from communism/socialism as it gets. He is to the right of Ronald Reagan time and time again. Socialists bail out ordinary people. Obama bails out banks. Most of his cabinet is from Wall Street. You can’t be from Wall Street, working on Wall Street’s behalf, and be a lefty. You just can’t.

    I don’t know why people find this so confusing. Communism arose as a reaction to the abuses of the ruling elite in Europe. In practical form, it’s about returning wealth and power to the majority and away from the entitled elite. Like all political systems, it can be co-opted and corrupted by tyrants – but it is not a system of tyrants. It’s an economic system, and tyranny is a political system.

    Next time someone tells you that Obama is a “closet socialist” or a “closet communist”, ask him why the hell his policies don’t benefit ordinary people. We have a 10% unemployment rate in this country, and no socialist would be content, as Obama is, with that.

    The Socialist Party in the US hates the guy because of his policies. I mean, c’mon.

  55. I should not say decided the whole election, I should say, it started the whole fraud. HRC won the election in spite of it, and yet got away with not even putting out a final vote at the convention.

    WHY DID NOT THE HRC DELEGATES WALK OUT.

  56. Wbboei,

    People sue private entities all the time. People sue insurance companies, country clubs, dry cleaners, private schools, private business – why would this be any different.

    If a voter that voted in the primary in a particular district is aware that party rules were not followed on their behalf, why couldn’t they sue the party on civil grounds? We’re not talking criminal charges. We’re talking failure to abide by party rules on behalf of party members.

    People sure Home Owners Associations for failing to enforce rules and win. Why couldn’t a voter do the same?

  57. Agreed about the mosque, jbstone. It’s unconscionable.

    OTOH, I find the timing of the release of two big stories, the ethics violation probes of both Rangle and Waters as well as the increased scrutiny of the 2008 primary fraud very strange and I wonder who’s behind them.

    Is Squat getting back at Rangle and Waters for supporting HRC?
    Are the repubs pushing for the probes now as a subliminal stealth smearing of squat in terms of race indentity?
    Were the probes delayed until Squat stole the (s)election?

    And what about the sudden interest in fact the primary was stolen from HRC?
    Who’s pushing it and why?
    Is it the repubs spilling the beans now instead of 2008 becasue they didn’t want to help her but want to taint squat?
    I don’t think the info helps HRC but it does hurt squat, both now and in 2012.

  58. Fifth Dimension
    August 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 am

    ROFL, now even that cesspool Politico is calling for an Obama – Clinton 2012 ticket. 🙄
    ———
    The way this article is written, makes me spitting mad!!

    As if Hillary has been a good little girl, learned a lot, worked hard enough to be named at the Ahole’s VP.

    Don’t even get me started…

  59. Basil,

    They want to damage Obama sufficiently that he cannot win in 2012 but not so thoroughly that he doesn’t get the nomination.

    The GOP wants to run against Obama, not Clinton. Not Gore.

    I’d be interested in knowing who pushed the Gore stories – whether it’s Obama or the GOP. We’ll never know…

  60. basement angel: “Obama’s policies are far from communism/socialism as it gets.”

    I agree with your whole statement. The same things need to be said at hillbuzz. The writer and his bloggers all cast o as a socialist, as if that’s something everyone knows to be bad. They also cast themselves as what they think is the opposite of socialist – “conservative”. These label-throwing games turn my stomach.

    I also agree, more or less, with what you say about “bitch”. Even though I don’t take back what I said about “bastard” and “bitch”, I think name-throwing, slang and epithets are the lowest form of speech that does nothing but get on people’s nerves and in the way of real thought.

  61. jeswezy said to canaan:
    But you seem to imply that socialists (I qualify as one) don’t believe in the Constitution and so forth, which is an ignorant thing for you to say. While socialist, I am very conservative in one important respect: I adhere strongly to the 18th century Enlightenment upon which the Constitution, free speech, limited and representative government are founded, and I also have no respect for o, whom I certainly do not regard as my Great Hope.

    ==================

    I might qualify as a ‘socialist’ by some definitions — certainly way to the Left on many issues. Way further than Obama!

    So thanks Jeswezy. And thanks to Basement Angel for continuing to try to clarify what those terms really mean.

  62. basement angel said:
    The GOP wants to run against Obama, not Clinton. Not Gore.
    I’d be interested in knowing who pushed the Gore stories – whether it’s Obama or the GOP.

    =================

    It’s the GOP style: Paula Jones all over again.

    Obama would just call him racist.

  63. What I’m hearing on Martha’s Vineyard in regard to the idea of HRC as VPres goes like this: “Really lame idea. No matter how you pump it up, a VPres is an understudy. What the hell good can she do as long as he’s still the president…unless the plan is for him to take a walk, in which case, she’d be the one to take over. Now, that’s a great idea!” and “Hmnn, is Obama stepping down? – he doesn’t look very healthy – maybe that’s the deal.” There’s also: “Forget about it. If they’re trying to bury her, it won’t work – she’s too smart to fall for that.”
    ————————–
    Here’s a remark I heard at the supermarket:
    “Let them build the damned mosque. Then we can go down there and bomb it off the map. I’d feel real good about that!”

  64. “While this case raises a host of complex constitutional issues, all seem to distill to the single question of whether or not Congress has the power to regulate — and tax — a citizen’s decision not to participate in interstate commerce,”

    ================

    First catch your interstate commerce. In Obamacare, the insurance companies are FORBIDDEN to sell across state lines.

  65. Basement Angel,

    ‘They want to damage Obama sufficiently that he cannot win in 2012 but not so thoroughly that he doesn’t get the nomination.’

    Sounds plausible to me. I wonder how involved they were in stealing the nomination from HRC in ’08.

  66. BTW,

    Remember when posters on 44 were speculating about the deal-with-the-devil between Rove and Brazille?

    It’s beginning to look like he got the better end of the bargain, no?

  67. Turndown Obama,

    It’s also Obama’s style to release sex scandals against his opponents. Remember, the Obama campaign got after journalists to cover Bill Clinton’s post-presidential sex life. Obama’s in real trouble in the polls. I’m not sure he can win re-election. He may be very interested in taking out potential rivals.

  68. Is Squat getting back at Rangle and Waters for supporting HRC?
    Are the repubs pushing for the probes now as a subliminal stealth smearing of squat in terms of race indentity?
    Were the probes delayed until Squat stole the (s)election?
    *******list
    That is the most perplexing question…Why now??? Maxine Waters has been on the CREW “Top 15 most corrupt” for years and compared to many other Congress-critters and especially compared to the Fraud-in-Chief, just nickle and dime stuff. Rangle also made the CREW list but nothing was said about Rangle until after he endorsed Hillary and then the House in the D.R. came out. The whole thing stinks because Congress runs like the “Illinois Consortium”; ie.. don’t let partisanship interfere with the underlying graft and corruption.

  69. What I’m hearing on Martha’s Vineyard in regard to the idea of HRC as VPres goes like this: “Really lame idea. No matter how you pump it up, a VPres is an understudy. What the hell good can she do as long as he’s still the president…unless the plan is for him to take a walk, in which case, she’d be the one to take over. Now, that’s a great idea!” and “Hmnn, is Obama stepping down? – he doesn’t look very healthy – maybe that’s the deal.” There’s also: “Forget about it. If they’re trying to bury her, it won’t work – she’s too smart to fall for that.”

    =================

    After what she’s done with SOS, I agree. If she took the job, she’d make something of it.

    And she’d be in the line of succession!

  70. basement angel said:
    It’s also Obama’s style to release sex scandals against his opponents.

    =================

    Oh, right. Obama got to the US Senate because his strong rivals just coincidentally had their divorce records made public.

  71. Larry Johnson calls Bullshit on the Sociopath-in-Chief’s “Iraq” speech”
    (snip)
    “The really disturbing part of what is going on in Iraq is the fact that Iran has taken the place over. Iranian intelligence officers are deployed throughout Iraq. Iranian front companies, by the hundreds, are doing business in key areas of Iraq. I am not one of the agitators for a war with Iran, but that does not mean we should ignore what Iran is doing to shore up its strategic position in the Middle East.

    We can delude ourselves that our sacrifice of blood and treasure in Iraq meant something. It did not. It was a stupid, short sighted war. Goddamn George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for this farce. They have helped bankrupt our country and bear ultimate responsibility for the American soldiers killed and wounded in Iraq. They died for what? To make Iran the pre-eminent political power in the region?

    Compounding this tragic farce is Barack Obama doing a victory lap for something he did not support. Worse, he appears oblivious to Iran’s growing influence in Iraq and has not come up with a policy to deal with this threat. I find this disgusting on all points.”

  72. #
    wbboei
    August 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Could a voter in a primary state sue for what transpired specifically in Denver? We don’t know what the original counts were. Is there a way to pry this open with some kind of civil suit?
    ————————–
    That question was looked at and the answer was no. The political party was deemed to be a private entity free to make (and break) its own rules as it sees fit

    =================
    WTF?????

    If the DNC can cheat in an election and there is no recourse for voters………..what is the value of your vote????

    Hillary could have won in a larger landslide and they could still give her delegates to the fraud???

    Why is the DNC above the law?????
    Only racial issues are good enough????????

    Steam is coming out of my ears right now.

  73. Larry make a good point about Iran…In retrospect Saddam was one of our best allies in the region…He hated both the Iranians and the Radical Islamists….IIRC he killed or imprisoned at least 300 thousand “radicals” in Iraq.

  74. Canaan,

    You’re confusing political systems with economic systems. Socialism is an economic system. Oppressive policies are part of the political system.

    Obama is not a socialist. There are no socialists in his cabinet. Indeed, with only a couple of exceptions, his cabinets members are as far right as most of Reagan’s cabinet members – that means that they institute economic policies that benefit wealthy Americans, and corporate America over ordinary Americans.

    If Obama was a liberal/socialist/communist, he would have created a mortgage bail out that protect homeowners, but he didn’t do that. His bail out protected the banks. You can’t protect the banks at the expense of average mortgage holders and be a socialist. If he were a socialist, his health care plan would have provided health care by a public entity such as Medicare. It does not do that. It mandates that you and I must purchase our insurance from a private entity. You cannot be a socialist or even a liberal if that’s what your health care plan calls for.

    There is nothing in Obama’s policies that is even slightly left.

    Again, socialism is an economic system that rewards labor and encourages wealth to flow to the middle class and the lower class. Fascism is an economic system that encourages wealth to flow to corporate entities.

    Lots of countries are socialist and are not repressive in the least – Canada, Sweden, France, England, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, The Netherlands and the list will go one for quite a ways.

    So, the next time you’re wondering about whether Obama is a lefty or a righty, ask yourself who benefits from his policies as they actually are. If it drives money to corporate America, banks, insurance companies or just the financial elite, then he’s not socialist.

  75. If the DNC can cheat in an election and there is no recourse for voters………..what is the value of your vote????
    *******
    Who organizes and pays for Party Primaries? If significant tax dollars are used, the “private entity can do whatever it wants” seems to be a pretty weak argument.

  76. You’re confusing political systems with economic systems. Socialism is an economic system. Oppressive policies are part of the political system.
    **********
    Good point….The political “spectrum” is usually described as linear, ie..”Right-Left” when in fact is really circular..despite the economic differences, was Hitler (Right) any different than Stalin or Mao(Left)? except for the ultimate body counts, that is.

  77. ANOTHER SPEECH, ANOTHER SERIES OF EXAGGERATIONS AND LIES

    We all knew, including the hopium smokers, that Obama’s promise to “get us out of Iraq” was going to be a huge empty promise not to be lived up to, despite that it was the primary premise behind the inexperienced junior senator’s campaign to become POTUS.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    SHV
    August 3rd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
    The Trotsky-its call Bullshit on Obama’s Iraq speech:

    Obama hails Iraq war in “withdrawal” speech
    By Bill Van Auken
    3 August 2010
    (snip)
    Obama continued: “Shortly after taking office, I announced our new strategy for Iraq and for a transition to full Iraqi responsibility. And I made it clear that by August 31, 2010 America’s combat mission in Iraq would end. And that is exactly what we are doing—as promised, on schedule.”

    He failed to add, however, that these millions of pieces of military hardware and tens of thousands of troops aren’t being brought home, but are instead being shipped to Afghanistan. [snip]

    The claim that all US “combat troops” will be out of Iraq by August 31 is fraudulent. Units previously classified as “combat” troops are merely being relabeled as “advice and assist” brigades, with their mission supposedly restricted to training and “advising” the Iraqi security forces.
    (snip)
    There is little reason to believe that the remaining US troops will be withdrawn from Iraq by the end of 2011. Senior military officers have repeatedly stressed that US forces will remain in the country for many years to come, and Washington has continued to build up and retain control of giant military bases, such as those at Balad, Al Asad and Tallil.

  78. I’m not sure it’s fair to call the proposed building a ‘mosque’, nor to say it’s ‘at ground zero.’ It’s a 13 story ‘community center’ which invites non-Muslims and would include a swimming pool, auditorium, exhibit space and a worship area.

    Still I think Palin has the right approach: appealing to the Muslims to respect the feelings of opponents and build their centers elsewhere.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/18/sarah-palin-to-muslims-reject-ground-zero-mosque/?icid=sphere_politicsdaily_inline2
    via the social networking site Twitter, the former Alaska governor asked “peace-seeking” Muslims to understand that the mosque will interfere with recovery from the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
    “Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation; it stabs hearts. Pls reject it in interest of healing” Palin tweeted from her BlackBerry.
    Earlier Sunday afternoon, Palin tweeted, “Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn’t it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate.”
    (But she likely meant “repudiate.”)
    Six minutes later, Palin asked New Yorkers to reject the mosque. She wrote, “Peaceful New Yorkers, pls refute the Ground Zero mosque plan if you believe catastrophic pain caused @ Twin Towers site is too raw, too real.”
    Palin, who has 190,000-plus Twitter followers, deleted the original post with the misspelling and posted this note: “‘Refudiate,’ ‘misunderestimate,’ ‘wee-wee’d up.’ English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it! ”
    Currently, there are plans to build a $100 million 13-story mosque and Muslim community center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York City. It has already received some of its building permissions. The center would include a swimming pool, auditorium, exhibit space and a worship area.

  79. SHV said:
    The political “spectrum” is usually described as linear, ie..”Right-Left” when in fact is really circular..despite the economic differences, was Hitler (Right) any different than Stalin or Mao(Left)?

    ==================

    Admin made this point very well in an article a month or so ago. Too far in either direction arrives at Totalatarianism — regardless of whether the government owns things or just forces the people to buy from private corporations.

  80. The political party was deemed to be a private entity free to make (and break) its own rules as it sees fit

    ===================

    Didn’t Crist of Florida talk about keeping the ‘Dem Party’ off the November ballot (printed by the state) if they didn’t behave like a real political party?

  81. Who organizes and pays for Party Primaries? If significant tax dollars are used, the “private entity can do whatever it wants” seems to be a pretty weak argument.
    ————————————–
    My thoughts exactly. A weak argument, but it is the law.

    However, lest we forget, we do have people like that ACLU judge in Arizona in the ranks of our judiciary, therefore what is logical, what is equitable and what is sensible is inadmissable, or else they let it in for what it is worth, or they say what you say I find that what you say is important, however in weighing the equities I find against you because, well just because I love to tinker with the law, more than I care to solve the real world problem.

    I live in a cloistered world. It is is the realm of books, and lamps and smelling salts. In my little world, I find that Nazis can march in Skokie and reverse discrimination is not discrimination, and I like the state when it is going against the majority and I hate the state when it is going against the minority even when the minority is wrong. I trace my roots back to Roger Baldwin who was a friend of Lenin. That is the ACLU for you.

    Now I will say this. There have been some excellent ACLU members over the years, like Professor Van Alstein at Duke University if he is still living. Nixon went to Duke. Van Alstein left the ACLU over its policy on reverse discrimination, which was and is iminical to equal justice under the law.

  82. The economic systems are left to right. The political systems are ultimately circular.

    Economic systems which are right wing are more likely to include oppressive political systems, because ordinary people get angry when they aren’t reasonably reimbursed for their labor – so that tends to necessitate an oppressive political system. Socialist economic systems which provide reasonable access to decent housing, schooling, health care and provide decent wages don’t usually require repression to sustain themselves.

    We’re experiencing one of the dangers of capitalism right now. Employers have employees over a barrel because it takes so long to find a new job now – six applicants for every opening. So employers are slashing jobs and slashing pay for the jobs the keep. Productivity is rising because people are afraid to lose their jobs. Profits are skyrocketing at a time when we have 10% unemployment. This is a situation that is driving money to the financial elite and is destabilizing and impoverishing the middle class. Neither Sarah Palin, nor anyone in the GOP, will stop this slide. If this continues for another 6 years, we will lose our status as a first world nation. We’re falling behind in a big way and Obama is as culpable as Bush and Reagan in this mess. Only the Clinton presidency saw rising wages for the middle class, and those gains have long since been wiped out.

    Make no mistake – caterwauling about Obama as a socialist when he is transfering money to the financial elite with the same conviction Bush did is just insane.

  83. jewesezy

    ….Female dogs, or bitches, are reputed to be nasty. I have heard women, though, refer to a man as their bitch, meaning their boyfriend. I have also heard women refer to themselves and each other as bitches, meaning they’re mean enough to get what they want, get things done, or overcome conventions and obstacles. So, “bitch” seems to be taking on positive meanings these days and can be a proudly worn label.

    ———-
    You must be living in either a different world or generation than I am.

    A ‘bitch’ is a female dog, nothing to do with being nasty or nice.

    …and the term used from one human female to another in my world is nothing to be proud of. Usually meaning that the other female is unreasonable, angry, narcissistic and mean. Somehow in your world, (maybe the younger generation?) the word has been turning into something meaning powerful.

    If this is true, it is sad, because then the word can be used in a derogatory way by someone, and the other person will be more approving of it thinking that it is a compliment.

    …if someone calls me a ‘bitch’, my temper flares like a bat out of Hell.

  84. I guess I have to say this again – the question is not whether the state can prosecute the Democratic Party. We know the answer to that – party rules cover caucuses. State rules cover primaries. In the case of a primary, a state, if they chose to and felt they had appropriate grounds, could sue. But by and large, the fraud went on in the caucus states – so now, the state cannot sue on criminal grounds. We already know that.

    The question is only whether a Democratic voter, who legitimately participated in a caucus or a primary, could sue in civil court to determine if the party rules were followed. Again, we’re not talking about criminal prosecutions here. If Homeowner Associations can be sued succesfully for not enforcing HOA rules, why couldn’t the Democratic party be sued, by Democrats who participated, for not enforcing party rules?

  85. #
    lil ole grape
    August 3rd, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    What I’m hearing on Martha’s Vineyard in regard to the idea of HRC as VPres goes like this: “Really lame idea. No matter how you pump it up, a VPres is an understudy. What the hell good can she do as long as he’s still the president…unless the plan is for him to take a walk, in which case, she’d be the one to take over. Now, that’s a great idea!” and “Hmnn, is Obama stepping down? – he doesn’t look very healthy – maybe that’s the deal.” There’s also: “Forget about it. If they’re trying to bury her, it won’t work – she’s too smart to fall for that.”
    ————————–
    Here’s a remark I heard at the supermarket:
    “Let them build the damned mosque. Then we can go down there and bomb it off the map. I’d feel real good about that!”
    ============

    I totally agree with both of these issues, maybe I should move back east…

  86. It is starting to come back to me now. The question did arise in the context of the convention, and it concerned whether the DNC could deny the right for Hillary supporters to vote for Hillary on the first ballot. Having been disenfranchised in the caucuses, and again before the RGB, Hillary supporters were obviously interested in preventing it from happening a third time. If you go back in the files of the Denver Group you may find something on this.

    I have a different story which is appropos of Admin’s comments. When I arrived on my fourth stop on the campaign trail, West Virgina, there were two attorneys present in our campaign office. One of them was from a big Boston firm and he was well along in years. Things were looking pretty good on the ground at that point, and I asked him whether he saw a path to victory for Hillary. He did not see it himself and he was greatly saddened by it. I know he was close to Hillary because he introduced her at the victory celebration that evening. The thing that worried him was the reaction the women would have to what the party was doing to Hillary. He said the women in Massachusetts were furious about it.

    Bambi and his entourage would do well to remember the words of Kipling on the subject:

    When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
    They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws –
    ‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale –
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    The Obama loyalist thought it was over after the convention, and over the screams of the obots we won we won we won, they demanded fealty and unity. Well . . . it ain’t over Bambi. It is like original sin Bambi you cannot wash it off.

  87. SHV

    The Obamas party and vacations and the “Hill” is left to clean up the shit
    ——-
    No kidding.

  88. basement angel said:
    The economic systems are left to right. The political systems are ultimately circular.

    —————-

    But when the corporations own the government….

  89. wbboei
    August 3rd, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Who organizes and pays for Party Primaries? If significant tax dollars are used, the “private entity can do whatever it wants” seems to be a pretty weak argument.
    ————————————–
    My thoughts exactly. A weak argument, but it is the law.

    ———
    I don’t understand what you are saying. It’s law that the DNC doesn’t have to follow any laws?

    That there are no laws saying they have to represent the vote count?

    I can understand Hillary not pressing the legal issues, but what prevents voters from taking legal action that their votes were not represented in the primary?

  90. Basement Angel

    The question is only whether a Democratic voter, who legitimately participated in a caucus or a primary, could sue in civil court to determine if the party rules were followed. Again, we’re not talking about criminal prosecutions here. If Homeowner Associations can be sued succesfully for not enforcing HOA rules, why couldn’t the Democratic party be sued, by Democrats who participated, for not enforcing party rules?

    ———
    Yes, and to carry the thought further…

    Since there is no public record of how every delegate voted in the Convention, some states did not vote at all, like California, the voters in California that voted for Hillary were not cast for her, therefore all those votes were thrown out.

    If a class action lawsuit was started against the DNC, it would would not only draw attention to the caucus fraud, but it might at least force the DNC to publish the votes, and all the delegates that were NOT counted.

  91. WBB
    If you go back in the files of the Denver Group you may find something on this.
    ——

    Who and where is the Denver Group???

  92. Re ‘Denver Group’ look up Heidi Li and ‘Tom in Paine’ or suchlike spelling.

    ——
    Was the legal issue of a class action law suit discussed there?

  93. Turndown Obama –

    Fascism, according to Mussolini, is more correctly known as “Corporate Fascism” – when the corporations own the government that is, by definition, fascism.

  94. its amazing to me how few know what really went on.

    ie: the denver group. the many scattered Hillary entities were not tied together… with the primary shenanigans receiving little press.

    I hope that this next election sees some mainstream clearing house of Hillary information started somewhere on the web. zero had his propaganda site and it seems like there was no counter site.

    maybe Hillaryis44 should be the place or see to it that it happens. this next election will be much better organized web wise.

  95. Shadowfax,

    What he’s talking about are caucuses which are governed by party rules, rather than state law. It would be much harder for a state or federal prosecutor to pursue an action against a caucus. That being said, there are still things that happened that are almost certainly illegal. Importing people from another state to vote in a caucus that they are not qualified to participate in order to sway the outcome, is almost certainly illegal.

    However, in primary states, state law governs the elections. That’s someplace where an action could be pursued by a state or federal prosecutor if they felt they had the grounds to do so. Most of the hanky panky took place in caucus states – though not all of it. One of the women in both documentaries, Barbie, is from Indiana. Her underage grandson, was loaded onto a bus, taken to an early voting site, given a palm card instructing him who to vote for, and voted in the Indiana primary for Barack Obama. IIRC, he was given a meal and an iPod for his service. The Clinton campaign has the palm card.

    I don’t even know that it involves a class action suit although maybe it does. If states have laws that obligate delegates to vote for the candidate whom they are to represent for one or two ballots, and we don’t know how anyone voted on the first ballot, why can’t an individual voter who lives in one of those states, sue to find out what was on the first ballot?

  96. BA

    I don’t even know that it involves a class action suit although maybe it does. If states have laws that obligate delegates to vote for the candidate whom they are to represent for one or two ballots, and we don’t know how anyone voted on the first ballot, why can’t an individual voter who lives in one of those states, sue to find out what was on the first ballot?

    —-
    I agree, Calif is a state that requires delegates to vote to represent voters, on the first ballot. (that was brought up by the video on Fox and Friends, Gloria whatever with the gag.

    If Calif. was not given the change to vote in the first ballot on the floor…we know why…and the votes were not published by the DNC…….why isn’t that grounds for a class action suit in itself?

    The DNC being able to cheat in a primary caucus state just goes against what we think Democracy and voting is all about.

    God, I could kick myself again for not going to Law School. (I was on the road to that career but decided not to for the cost of student loans.)

  97. The longer the jury goes, I expect the less likely they are going to convict. But then, don’t you think that was the bribe!

    Yes, HRC worked hard at her campagin, but refused to promise what she could not deliver, or be guilty of fraud. Now she is proving that she can do the job.

    As far as the sex tapes go, if they find any on HRC, I will applaud it. I will be glad she is getting some, after all, all of the fellows seem to be.

    DARN, DID I JUST SAY THAT.

  98. A day after disclosure reports showed Meg Whitman was spending more per day by early summer than rival Jerry Brown had spent all year, the Republican gubernatorial nominee made no apologies for her spending, saying her personal fortune would give her independence in the governor’s office. “I will continue to invest in the campaign,” Whitman said, adding that she would continue to raise money from others as well.

    [snip]
    LA Times

    —-

    Excuse me, but I find this disgusting. To me, it’s trying to buy an election and the more of her mean ads I have to navigate around on tv, the more I dislike her.

    She has also only agreed to two debates after a long fight that Brown wanted many more. What is she afraid of, having to defend her positions?

    Personally, I hope she spends herself into poverty and doesn’t win, just on principle if nothing else, (I know, she has bazillions). I also don’t like her policies…what ever they are…like Raygun’s’.

  99. Shadowfax,

    The first vote was at the hotel while the delegates were in their rooms. I’ve forgotten the mechanics of it. I do know that the DNC has released the results. I think individual voters might be able to sue to make sure that they were represented as required by state law. It’s the states where reps are required for two rounds of balloting that might have the most room for litigation.

  100. I have seen the state primaries. They had out of town people watching everything, and all credentials were checked right up to the point it went into the counting machine. So why so stricked at the state level, and they can vote from their rooms at the national level. Heaven knows who was really voting. I really think someone should have screamed a long time ago.

  101. Shadowfax, I think your boy is going to get off….the jury is probably taking its time because they are at least employed while they are comtemplating the fate of Blago…

  102. NMF,

    The were required to vote from their rooms in Denver, not allowed. I think it was a ploy to prevent anyone from knowing what was transpiring in terms of the vote totals.

    People have been screaming since it happened but Fox has only recently decided to cover it. The GOP is clearly serious about winning back control of Congress and the WH in 12. That’s why it’s being covered now.

    Bush stole two elections in a row and Fox didn’t care. They don’t have a principled stake in this. This is political coverage meant to fracture the Democratic party. Still, if it can impact the party sufficiently to prevent Obama from running for re-election, it can be used to get us the candidate that we really want and need – you know who. 🙂

  103. Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol calls off engagement to Levi Johnston for second time – AP

    That boy is no good, must be about that story he got another girl pregnant. If it is, I hope Sarah has a stern chat with her and gets rid of him completely.

  104. And just like that, they were off again. “It’s over. I broke up with him,” Bristol Palin tells PEOPLE exclusively of her second try at an engagement to Levi Johnston, father of her 19-month-old son Tripp.

    Palin, 19, says the relationship soured on July 14, the very same day they announced their marriage intentions to the world. Palin says he told her that evening he might have fathered a baby with another teenage girl. (Palin did not name the young woman, but a pregnant former girlfriend of Johnston’s has since publicly denied his paternity.)

    In an emotional phone interview with PEOPLE, Palin spoke through tears about feeling heartbroken, humiliated and trapped – while Johnston acted cool. “There’s been no remorse,” she says, adding that she’s seen him only once in the past three weeks.

    ……………………………….

    Yup he’s obviously been round the ladies………..a lot.

  105. The 19-year-old daughter of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told People magazine that the “final straw” was when Johnston told her he was going to Hollywood to see a hunting show, but actually went there to star in a music video mocking her family.

    ………………………..

    Well I’m glad Sarah let her learn the hard way about men. She had to let her see the experience for herself that the boy was no good.

  106. sirmrks
    its amazing to me how few know what really went on.
    ie: the denver group. the many scattered Hillary entities were not tied together… with the primary shenanigans receiving little press.
    I hope that this next election sees some mainstream clearing house of Hillary information started somewhere on the web.

    ===============

    I think Pumapac.org has got a lot of evidence collected online (tho it’s not the easiest site to get around). Dailypuma.com has latests posts of ALL the Puma blogs and some non-Puma so you could find what different blgs are focused on.

    Imo H44 Admin has enough on her plate already!

  107. Referendum in Missouri: Will the Show-Me State Show Up Obamacare?

    Missouri voters go to the polls Tuesday for the first-in-the-nation referendum on President Obama’s health care plan. It is likely to give Republicans a chance to brag about the unpopularity of Obamacare, but the vote will be largely symbolic. Courts will eventually decide whether Missouri and other states can legally trump federal law and exempt citizens from the mandate to buy insurance. But sending a signal to Washington will be victory enough for the Republicans and Tea Party activists pushing Proposition C.

    “You don’t need to worry about the courts when the people are trying to have their say,” says Lloyd Smith, executive director of the Missouri GOP. “The people are saying this is going too far. It’s a referendum on the overreach of the Obama Administration and the liberals in Congress.” The vote is as much about “anger and frustration” at all things Washington as it is about health care, explains Representative John Diehl, a Republican from St. Louis County who was one of the chief proponents of the referendum when it passed the Missouri legislature.

    But the specific issue boils down to this: Can the government require that citizens buy health insurance? Mandatory insurance is a key element of the health care reforms passed by congressional Democrats and signed by Obama this year. Adding healthy people to the insurance pool spreads the cost of policies for people with health problems. Missouri’s referendum rejects that mandate by asking voters whether state laws should be amended to forbid penalties for failing to have health insurance.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008087,00.html

  108. basement angel
    August 3rd, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Shadowfax,

    The first vote was at the hotel while the delegates were in their rooms.

    ***All that yelling and screaming and being chased down the hall way… was the ‘First Vote’???????????
    Maybe next time they can hold it in the restroom stalls or in the shower. What BS, away from the cameras and away from public sight!!

    So the ‘vote’ on the convention floor was the second vote after the slasher shower scene…………
    Why have a second vote at all if the thugs had all their ballots covered in Hillary blood???

    Do Republican’s have caucuses too, or only the nitwit Dems???

    —-
    I do know that the DNC has released the results.

    I would love to see them somewhere on the internets, if anyone knows of them…

  109. confloyd
    August 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Shadowfax, I think your boy is going to get off….the jury is probably taking its time because they are at least employed while they are comtemplating the fate of Blago…

    —-
    My boy……….hehehe

    I think the longer it goes on, Blago will get at least something stuck to his buns, maybe something that will require picking up trash along side of the freeway for a weekend.

    I hope they either have real damn proof that he stole something or shafted someone to better his life or let him off clean as a whistle.

    God knows, compared to obama, rahm, nasty or reid, Blago is a choir boy…and if he is acquitted of no wrong doing, he should sue for his old job back and get paid for slandering his reputation.

    Put the DNC and OBAMA on trial!!!!!!

  110. I feel sorry for Sarah’s daughter, she is just learning that many good looking guys are just horndogs…

    Did I say that? 😉

  111. Put the DNC and OBAMA on trial!!!!!!
    ———————–

    I am for that!

    ————————

    I feel sorry for Sarah’s daughter too and Sarah….she is trying to get the media off her back…this won’t help her….the bigblog boys will have lots of stuff to write nasty stuff about. I thought Levi looked like an empty headed jock!

  112. Democratic Party to Keep Controversial Superdelegates

    Colin Woodard
    August 02, 2010

    A reform effort to take away party bigwigs’ presidential-nominating power suffers a setback.

    Before 2008, your average American might not have known what a Democratic Party superdelegate was. But that year these mysterious party insiders became a feature of the daily news cycle as the fierce presidential-primary battle swept across the country. In a neck-and-neck race, the party confronted the very real possibility that these unelected delegates to its national convention might support Hillary Clinton in sufficient numbers to give her the nomination, despite Barack Obama’s slim but indisputable lead among pledged delegates, who are assigned by the results of state primaries and caucuses. The prospect of Democratic insiders taking the nomination away from the first African-American to qualify for it threatened to seriously damage party unity, and prompted a move to reform the Democrats’ nomination process.

    But recently a party committee quietly tossed out a plan to take nominating power away from the superdelegates—former presidents, current senators and Congress members, members of the Democratic National Committee, and other party luminaries such as labor leaders. The superdelegates currently have automatic seats at the convention and are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they please.

    After Obama secured the party’s nomination, he urged the DNC to create a commission to examine superdelegates’ influence and other shortcomings in the nomination process. The Democratic Change Commission (whose members included Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, and House Majority Whip James Clyburn of South Carolina) took a tough stance. Superdelegates, it recommended, should be required to vote for a candidate assigned to them, based on the results of their state’s caucus or primary.

    “We need to show deference to what the party members in our state have done,” said McCaskill, the commission’s co-chair, in December, when the recommendations were announced and forwarded to the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee for approval.

    But the rules committee took a dim view of this proposal. While endorsing recommendations to dilute the superdelegates’ influence (mostly by increasing the number of ordinary delegates), it quietly nixed the redefinition of their voting powers at it July 10 meeting. How quietly? Enough that even some members of the change commission hadn’t yet heard about it when NEWSWEEK spoke to them last week.

    “That’s going to be disappointing for a number of grassroots delegates across the country who worked very hard on this,” said one commissioner, Rebecca Prozan, an assistant district attorney in San Francisco. “We need to make sure that the candidates are out convincing voters in the cornfields of Iowa, the South, and Latino communities in Arizona, not spending time convincing superdelegates.”

    Activists are indeed unhappy with the development. “Any reform that allows superdelegates to overturn the vote and will of Democratic voters nationwide is not real reform,” said Charles Chamberlain, political director of Democracy for America, the reform group founded by former DNC chair Howard Dean.

    Why would the rules committee do such a thing? After all, the proposed reform would have allowed superdelegates to keep their convention seats and even to attend as nonvoting delegates if they couldn’t stomach the candidate they would have been assigned to represent. It ensured the active participation of party elites—whose engagement can be vital to the success of nominees and presidents alike—while guaranteeing that they could never mount a coup against the voters’ preferred candidate.

    “People ask: isn’t it enough for folks to have floor privileges and a hotel room and not have an actual vote?” says rules-committee co-chair James Roosevelt Jr., a grandson of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. “The answer is: what you’re doing is creating two classes of delegates, people with the vote and people without the vote. Clearly, the people at the grassroots level should be the predominant voice. But if you don’t give elected officials a real voice, they are basically second-class citizens.”

    Political realities played a role as well, as any reforms have to be endorsed by the DNC, whose 447 members are all superdelegates. “The rules committee did not think that the full DNC would vote to take away their own voting rights,” says rules-committee member Elaine Kamarck, an expert on the presidential-nomination process at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government who has previously argued that superdelegates should be eliminated altogether. “It was always going to be difficult to pass this because you were asking a large group of people to vote against their own self-interest,” Kamarck adds. “Frankly, this was not a big enough issue with enough political pressure being put on the rules committee to accomplish that.”

    The result was a compromise, whereby superdelegates will keep their powers but will have their collective influence diluted from about 20 percent of voting delegates to about 15 percent. This has allowed the DNC to paper over the differences. “We’re proud of the work both the Democratic Change Commission and [the rules committee] have done to increase the overall impact and influence of the grassroots on the … nominating process,” the DNC press office replied by e-mail to a NEWSWEEK query. “Each took a different approach, but both took seriously the charge … to increase the power of the grassroots.”

    As reforms go, it’s fairly mild stuff. In effect, it turns the clock back to 1984, when 14 percent of convention ballots were in the hands of superdelegates. That’s a far cry from the 1972 and 1976 election cycles, when there were no superdelegates at all.

    As a practical matter, the changes are unlikely to mean much, at least for 2012, when President Obama will presumably not face a serious nomination challenge. Extremely close, protracted primary contests like the one in 2008 are rare events, and even in that race the superdelegates didn’t change the outcome.

    “My personal view was that the superdelegates were no longer a particularly important part of the nomination system,” says Kamarck, “and I supported the change commission’s views on this because of the public reaction I’d seen in 2008. But it’s kind of a moot point. Ever since 1984, the superdelegates have always followed the will of the voters, and that’s where they were in 2008.” She adds: “The number of superdelegates has been reduced by 5 percent, and that’s pretty good.”

    But other critics argue that an important principle is at stake, one that shapes rank-and-file voters’ perceptions of what—and whom—the party really stands for. “As a DNC member who is regularly engaged with grassroots activists, I couldn’t defend the system in 2008 and tell people my vote should count more than that of somebody who stood in the snow to register their vote,” says Sam Spencer, a Democratic national committeeman for Maine. “The superdelegate system is an outdated and undemocratic way of doing things that’s unsuited for modern times. The farther we veer away from one person, one vote, the worse it is for our party. If we let the current system stand in light of what happened in 2008, it seems pretty clear this is never going to change.”

    Technically, it’s not too late for Democrats to change their mind. Spencer and his DNC colleagues will vote on the rules committee’s recommendations at their Aug. 19–20 meeting in St. Louis, but sources say this is usually just a formality.

    Still, members are likely to hear grumbling from activists in the weeks ahead. “I’d imagine that the people who want the superdelegates retained probably don’t want anyone to believe it’s possible to overturn the ruling,” says Democracy for America’s Chamberlain. “It might be difficult, but I’m confident it’s possible.”

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/02/democratic-party-to-keep-controversial-superdelegates.html

  113. Congratulations on your new full time job, confloyd. I heard yesterday that Florida has an unemployment rate of 12%.

  114. Shadowfax,

    You’re wrong – the results of the first vote (when the delegates were confined to their room) was never released. I know this for a fact. No one was getting chased down the hallway. They were simply ordered to vote. And at no point has the result of that vote ever been made public. There are probably five people total who have seen it. If there is a law suit, that’s where it lies. We have no idea if delegates voted as they were legally obligated to.

    The second round of voting was pure chaos and it was televised. I watched that in PUMA HQ in Denver in real time. Just horrible.

  115. O’Reilly’s memo….Hillary Clinton will run against Obama if his numbers stay below 40% and he bet Karl Rove that Hillary would win the nomination. Rove bet him 1000 dollars she would not to the college of his choice if she wins….Rove doesn’t think she has a chance…LOL! He seems to know the cards are stacked against her again….well he is not taking in us Pumas!

    O’Reilly also said she was going to have to decide by spring because she was going to have to raise 100 million in order to run….well again I am glad I am working again so I can donate to the campaign!

  116. My personal view was that the superdelegates were no longer a particularly important part of the nomination system,” says Kamarck, “and I supported the change commission’s views on this because of the public reaction I’d seen in 2008. But it’s kind of a moot point. Ever since 1984, the superdelegates have always followed the will of the voters, and that’s where they were in 2008.” She adds: “The number of superdelegates has been reduced by 5 percent, and that’s pretty good.”
    ***************

    Followed the will of the voters in 2008? BS.And that my dear friends is why they don’t release the number of votes Hillary got vs the clusterfu*k that is illegally in the WH.

    I’m with wbb. It doesn’t matter the definition of Fascism, Dictatorship, Totalitarianism, Communisim…it’d all about power and control, for ‘them”, not the people.
    **********
    And turndown…

    … “While socialist, I am very conservative in one important respect: I adhere strongly to the 18th century Enlightenment upon which the Constitution, free speech, limited and representative government are founded,…”

    I don’t think you can be for “limited government and be a Socialist because, by definition, a socialistic society takes from those who have (and worked hard their whole life for ) and gives to those who don’t (don’t get me started ) and you have to have a large and powerful government to take what is someone else’s to give to those all to willing to take what they have not earned….and remember, a government big enough to take what you have earned, is big enough to take it all, including your liberty…

  117. In a final analysis on the fraudlent 2008 dem primaries/causus, any legal battle against the DNC would be a moot point…..the chief witness to be called would be Hillary and she is not going to raise the fraudlent act…..

    She chose/was forced to accept the DNC wishes…..

  118. Gonzo,

    Socialism is about rewarding labor rather than inheritance. Most wealth in this nation is inherited. Most rich people don’t work. Most rich people didn’t make their money – some ancestor did. And those people can corral the money, because money funnels upwards. At the point where a significant portion of the wealth is under their control, the middle class starts dying (we’re well on our way here) and becoming poor.

    With the exception of Clinton’s eight years, our wages have been stagnant for thirty years and the gains we made under Clinton were quickly wiped out by Bush. Meantime, the wealthiest 1% have gotten rich beyond all reason. that’s why we only have one job per 6 job seekers. You can have a healthy middle class with good income, or you can have the kind of tax policies that we have that drive money to the already wealthy – it’s one or the other. According to the WH, unemployment isn’t going to drop below 10% before 2012. That’s scandalously bad news and it’s staggering that a president of either party accepts those numbers. But Obama does, and that’s all the proof you need that he isn’t a socialist. That unemployment serves the wealthy and the employer. They use that number to cut wages, and hours because people who have a job will do anything to keep it. So corporate profits store, while the middle class lose ground.

    And yes, being able to define a word properly matters. Only morons, or insane people think it doesn’t.

  119. Time magazine’s new cover: Woman whose nose was cut off Taliban

    Not just her nose, though: They ordered her husband to saw off her ears too for the crime of running away from home. Time’s editor insists that “We do not run this story or show this image either in support of the U.S. war effort or in opposition to it,” but that’s nonsense, of course. The image is as stark an argument as you’re likely to see for continuing the war, which is why lefties naturally have been griping about it all day. Some offer legit complaints — instead of putting a mutilated girl on the cover to make the case for staying put, why not put a dead soldier on there to make the case for pulling out? — and some not so legit, like the idea that because this happened last year when U.S. troops were already in the field, it portends nothing about what’ll happen on a wider scale when we leave. I’m glad that Time’s trying to reintroduce the moral complications of withdrawal into the debate at a moment when the anti-war Narrative would prefer to ignore the messy aftermath, but this may be a case where “the story about the story” overshadows the actual, you know, story. Most of the bloggy links that I’ve seen today have gone to the piece at Time defending the decision to publish the photo, not the actual cover story about the catastrophic social backsliding to come once Islamist fanatics regain power (not to mention the inevitable retrenchment of Al Qaeda). Maybe a little too heavy on the distracting shock factor here?
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/38465519#38465519

  120. basement angel, I agree with what you said because of the personal experience I”ve recently had. I got a call from the chief technologist where I just got a job and she was complaining her call back time had been cut from 2 hrs per callback to just one hour.
    I also know that is the reason I am no longer working at the same job I was…they got rid of everyone and lowered the wage 5.00 an hour.
    I just got rehired for the same company but at a different facility and I will accept whatever money they will pay me to stay in the area…

    This is what big business is counting on…I can tell you that the folks that own this hospital have never worked a day in their lives.

  121. basement angel
    August 3rd, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Shadowfax,

    You’re wrong – the results of the first vote (when the delegates were confined to their room) was never released. I know this for a fact. No one was getting chased down the hallway. They were simply ordered to vote. And at no point has the result of that vote ever been made public. There are probably five people total who have seen it. If there is a law suit, that’s where it lies. We have no idea if delegates voted as they were legally obligated to.

    The second round of voting was pure chaos and it was televised. I watched that in PUMA HQ in Denver in real time. Just horrible.
    ————–

    Huh, what?

    I wasn’t the one that said the votes were made public…I thought you said it…someone said it…
    I was asking for someone to post the link of where the votes were published on the internet so I could see them.

    And the delegates were chased down the hallways, I read the emails that were passed around in private emails from the delegates that told PUMAs what happened. They said they were chased down the hallways to change their votes from Hillary to Obama. It was in the hotels……
    Several said it, so I take it as fact.

    I watched the second vote in a Denver bar with other crying PUMAs, real time, real tears.

  122. Confloyd,

    there are graphs out there that chart unemployment and corporate profits. IT’s staggering how out of what everything is.

    And Gonzo, here is a page on the top marginal tax rates that show you how high they have been over the years. Clinton raised the marginal tax rate on the wealthy by just 3%, created more jobs than anyone in history, the highest wages in history, shored up social security and balanced the budget:
    http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/2010/02/04/historical-marginal-income-tax-rates/

  123. Meantime, the wealthiest 1% have gotten rich beyond all reason.
    **********
    ‘In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers).’

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

    The genius of the Republican party beginning with Reagan was to convince the the former Democratic voting “White Working Class” to vote against their economic self-interest. “Welfare Queens”, “Socialism”, “Income Redistribution”, “Trickle Down Economics” all worked to re-distribute “wealth” to the upper 1%. We are now back to the economic mal-distribution that equals the wealth disparity of 1928. The real joke is “Income Redistribution…be afraid of the Socialists”….Income has been redistributed…to the upper 1%. In 2007, IIRC, the bottom 60% of Americans earned 28% of the income and had 4% of the wealth. Regean-omics worked as planned.

  124. Shadow,

    Oh, they were chased and everything else. But they were sequestered in their rooms for that first vote. I have no idea who said that votes had been released – they never have been. I think Gloria Allred even addresses that in her appearance on Fox.

    Some of the women had bruises on their arms from having their arms twisted by Obama supporters. I think John West got pictures.

  125. Socialism is about rewarding labor rather than inheritance. Most wealth in this nation is inherited. Most rich people don’t work. Most rich people didn’t make their money – some ancestor did.

    *****************

    Bs Bs Bs. I know MANY self made millionaires who worked their butts off, including my husband. We both came from below poverty level as did MANY of our friends that are now millionaires. The fact that we lost a great chunk of it does not demean the fact of what we did to make it and how hard we worked to do it and how hard our children work and our friends children to do the same. We are NOT the exception. This GREAT country gives EVERYONE the opportunity to PURSUE their careers, make their millions and try to keep it. It is why for over 600 years people have done everything that could think of to cross the Atlantic, Rio, or Pacific to have that chance. No where in the world is there this hope, this light. There is only ONE America, ONE great land of opportunity. This free society, this GREAT Republic is great BECAUSE it is a CAPITALISTIC society. Take your Socialism and shove it. I will fight for my right to make those millions again, as my ancestors did before me. What a sad state of affairs that so many are willing to call themselves Socialist. Keep your hands out of my wallet.

  126. And yes, being able to define a word properly matters. Only morons, or insane people think it doesn’t.
    ****************

    I see you are back calling people names. You must have a Borderline personality. Real fun to be around. NOT!!!

  127. Basement

    I swear, if I had been a Hillary delegate there would be blood in the hallway if those fu@kers tried to get me to bend over for Obama. I can kick like a mule and anything tied down would go flying at their head.

  128. This actually goes along with the above article and link to the 9:38 post of the Time Mag above FYI
    ***************

    Don’t Ask, Don’t Leak: WikiLeaks Traitor Openly-Gay Activist Upset Over Treatment of Gays In the Military
    American Media Blacking Out That Fact Utterly From Coverage
    —Ace
    The argument made by the military is that open homosexuality is bad for morale and discipline.

    Pfc. Bradley Manning is doing his all to prove that.

    I am less outraged by the gay angle here than the media suppression angle: I didn’t know this. Did you know this? I never heard a word of this.

    That’s what you call an embargo, my friends. If it doesn’t advance The Narrative, it never really happened.

    “The revelations of Manning’s openly pro-homosexual conduct suggest that a more liberal Department of Defense policy, in deference to the wishes of the Commander-in-Chief, had already been in effect and has now backfired in a big way. The result could be not only the loss of the lives of U.S. soldiers, as a result of the enemy understanding U.S. intelligence sources and methods, but damaged relations with Afghanistan and Pakistan and a possible U.S. military defeat in the region as a whole.” – Accuracy in Media

    According to one story appearing in Britain’s The Telegraph, Manning, who served as a US Army intelligence analyst, became depressed after a break-up with his homosexual campanion. He also wrote: “Bradley Manning is not a piece of equipment,” and quoted a joke about “military intelligence” being an oxymoron.

    Manning, who is openly homosexual, began his gloomy postings on January 12, saying: “Bradley Manning didn’t want this fight. Too much to lose, too fast.”

    Pentagon investigators plan to delve into Manning’s background to ascertain if they missed any warnings when he applied to join the US Army. According to The Telegraph, in May 2010, when he was serving at a US military base near Baghdad, he changed his status to: “Bradley Manning is now left with the sinking feeling that he doesn’t have anything left.”

    Italics added. I don’t mean to be glib but that is in fact a sign they missed something.

    And so set loose the Taliban on the heroic peasants cooperating with our military.

    After WikiLeaks published a trove of U.S. intelligence documents—some of which listed the names and villages of Afghans who had been secretly cooperating with the American military—it didn’t take long for the Taliban to react. A spokesman for the group quickly threatened to “punish” any Afghan listed as having “collaborated” with the U.S. and the Kabul authorities against the growing Taliban insurgency. In recent days, the Taliban has demonstrated how seriously those threats should be considered. Late last week, just four days after the documents were published, death threats began arriving at the homes of key tribal elders in southern Afghanistan. And over the weekend one tribal elder, Khalifa Abdullah, who the Taliban believed had been in close contact with the Americans, was taken from his home in Monar village, in Kandahar province’s embattled Arghandab district, and executed by insurgent gunmen.
    The violence may just be beginning. According to Agha Lali, the deputy head of Kandahar’s provincial council, threatening letters have been delivered to 70 elders in Panjwaii district. While it is unknown whether any of the men were indeed named in the WikiLeaks documents, it’s clear the Taliban believes they have been cooperating with Western forces and the Afghan government. One short handwritten note, shown to NEWSWEEK, said: “We have made a decision for your death. You have five days to leave Afghan soil. If you don’t, you don’t have the right to complain.” The screed, written on the letterhead of Mullah Mohammed Omar’s defunct Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, bore the signature of Abdul Rauf Khadim, a senior Taliban official and former inmate at the American lockup in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, who had been released into—and subsequently escaped from—Kabul’s custody last year.

    Into whose arms did this hystrionic little bitch fly? Into the Taliban’s, of course. They treat openly-gay homosexuals nicely. (At least the ones branded as homosexual; they seem to have a lot of nuance in the definition ’round Taliban country.)

    The Taliban, which did this to a woman who’d fled her family. Warning: Very Graphic Image Below the Fold.

  129. JanH, That Kyra Phillips video has been removed. She hosted Larry King’s show Monday, and discussed Chelsea’s wedding. She was slightly annoying, but the four guests she had on were pretty good – even Clinton-hating Sally Quinn.

  130. You can pay taxes like everyone else who works for living. I don’t believe you or anyone you know has ever made more than $7 an hour to be perfectly honest.

    But if that’s how you feel, why are you supporting Hillary? She’s already said that we need to raise taxes on rich people.

    I’ll give you an anecdote since I’m sure you’ve never met anyone who has any real wealth. A friend of mine’s daughter was gifted with $1m the day she was born by her grandfather. Her father traded it aggressively and by the time she was 13, she was worth $30m. She’s now 21, and living on a trust. She pays far less in taxes though she has never worked a day in her life.

    Most wealth in this nation is inherited – that is a fact. Most wealthy people and most corporations pass less in taxes than most middle class people. That is also a fact that most wealthy people are aware of. In fact, Warren Buffett has a standing offer of a free $1m bonus to any CEO who can prove that he pays more in taxes than his executive assistant. The offer has stood for years, and has never been taken. The reason? CEOs all pay less in taxes than their secretaries. You think that’s fair, and Warren Buffett doesn’t. Guess which one of you knows more about economics?

    I think you need to turn off Rush Limbaugh and leave the right wing talking points behind. The US is now a less economically mobile society than most of Europe. The reason that we have so much unemployment is that too much of our nation’s wealth is in the hands and bank accounts who have never worked a day in their life. And you pretending otherwise, doesn’t change that reality.

  131. You can pay taxes like everyone else who works for living. I don’t believe you or anyone you know has ever made more than $7 an hour to be perfectly honest.
    ***************

    What an arrogant little fool you are.

    Sorry you never “made it”…it shows, your, jealousy that is.

  132. Paula
    August 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    ——————-
    Thanks for letting me know. She was making fun of everything related to Chelsea’s wedding and gagging over how most were thrilled about it.

  133. Gonzo,

    LOL

    Gonzo, the reason that I know you aren’t wealthy and that you don’t know anyone who is, is that people who have money are intensely aware of how many of their friends inherited it, rather than earned it. It’s a fairly frequent topic of conversation among people who work for their wealth. Then there’s the whole subject of how much do you leave your children? Do you leave them the whole shebang or do you do what Gates is doing and limit it to a set amount? Rich people don’t sit around denying that most wealth is inherited because no one is more aware of the truth of that than people who have earned their way. You have no idea about that because you don’t know who is rich – that’s very clear.

    All you did was spit out right wing talking points that are used to delude the gullible into thinking that they too can get rich in the US. And yes, if you’re really smart, and that’s what you want to do, you can get your medical degree or your law degree and earn a very nice living. But short of having a genius for business, you aren’t going to get rich without a tremendous amount of luck.

  134. basement angel, I agree with you totally about the tax structure in this country.

    BTW, on an entirely unrelated note, lol, I just read Bill Clinton attended the Yankees game tonight and was cheered loudly when he was shown on the video board.

  135. Someone posted earlier on what O’Reilly said on Fox tonight–I didnt’ catch all of it but I heard Rove saying Hillary would not run. Did he give any reason why he thinks that? Did anyone see that segment on O’Reilly?

  136. medical degree or your law degree and earn a very nice living.
    *********
    With the educational debt burden among other costs, you better enjoy the work because it’s not a road to wealth. A friend of a friend just finish a specialty surgical fellowship and was offer a job for $900,000 per year. After the deduction for buy-in to the practice, practice overhead costs, repayment of loans and taxes, his take home will be around $40,000. Not a lot of money for about 15 years of education after High School graduation.

  137. MP,

    I know of no reason why Clinton would need to be appear in a law suit designed to find out if delegates voted as they were legally obligated to. She wasn’t in charge of that.

  138. Admin. Great to be back! Your thought provoking, well researched and often VERY funny articles here on Big Pink have been a mainstay of my daily reading. I signed on again to join in, on occasion, and because I was finally stirred by recent comments.

    After signing in, I thought it the better part of valor (and manners) to bite my lip about the things that compelled me to sign in.

    Wobbie, Confloyd, ShortTermer (who knows me in real-life) Gonzo, MoonOnPluto and others – hello to all.

  139. American Gal, It was me that was talking about O’Reilly. I too did not hear the whole thing, but I plan on listening to it when it replays. I really hate Rove.

    SHV, I agree, the doctors are getting hit really hard…what I think Gonzo is misunderstanding is that people who work whether professional or hourly…they aren’t getting rich anymore…its the business men who really make the money.

    Clinton did raise the taxes just a little and it really helped the budget…I think we should do this before screwing poor folks out of their social security. The Bush tax cuts couples with the huge expenditure for the war…is what started our decline in the economy.

  140. I am not going to call myself a Socialist, I am an American that is a Centralist old school Democrat.

    I think everyone should pay tax except those that don’t work, because they are sick, homeless or lost their job.

    No taxes should be paid on unemployment nor Social Security or other similar, income.
    No tax breaks for the rich, no loop holes for anyone…period!

    Taxes should be set similar to when Bill was Prez.

  141. All you did was spit out right wing talking points that are used to delude the gullible into thinking that they too can get rich in the US. And yes, if you’re really smart, and that’s what you want to do, you can get your medical degree or your law degree and earn a very nice living. But short of having a genius for business, you aren’t going to get rich without a tremendous amount of luck.
    **************************

    All I did was spit out the truth. I don’t need to explain or prove myself to anyone. We just work harder and save well. People really don’t want to work as hard as their parents, or grandparents did. Not a problem in my house. My husband worked in management for a well known company 80 hours a week for 26 years and they went public and our stock soared. I raised 2 kids and worked weekends and nights saving and saving and saving. I work on an average 20 hours of overtime now and I save, and save, and save. My daughter is 24, had a full ride for basketball in Div 1 and is already working on a PHD. She got that WORK ETHIC from us! If you look at who is running the 7/11’s around the country it is hard working immigrants. People who are not afraid of rolling up their sleeves make it in this country. I work with a Doc from India that takes 7 days off a year. Just 7. He is more than making it, a cool 1.5 mil a year. He works out of 3 hospitals and travels to the rural counties, takes all his own calls 7 days a week, day in, day out like the energizer bunny. Do I think people are having hard times? Of course, but many don’t want to change, they fear the unknown, I know this, but it is the fear that is their enemy. This country is full of opportunity, even today. I have a neighbor who’s kid started a lawn service at 16, hired 4 guys as it got so big, and stared a t-shirt company on the Internet at the same time. At 16 he was pulling in a profit of 3500 a month. But sing your sad song as you always do, off key. I pay my taxes by the way, I volunteer hundreds of hours and we donate tons of money…We do more than our “fair share” and you can keep your hands out of my pockets. By the way, how’s that “documentary” going you? The one you collected all that money for? Are you planning on returning the money that was so graciously donated to you with the understanding there would be a finished project?

  142. One thing I notice at the State convention, the grass roots Hillary volunteers were really kind of frozen out from being delegates. We got the lady that worked the hardest and was the lead in the state in by a fluck. The women she beat out, a party regular, somehow still ended up as a delegate.

    It is obvious to me now, this was because they take care of the people that have been there for ever, and lets face it, the leadership can intimidate them. If they don’t do what the party says, they lose everything, their jobs (may state employees in the party system), and their social group.

    With Me, I could tell them to go to H, but the clique people could not, as they are too dependent on the group.

  143. I think Rove on O’Reilly was saying that Hillary would not challenge Obama in 2012…perhaps Howard Dean from the Left but not Hillary. because she would not challenge a sitting or is that playing president?

    Rove is, indeed, a weasel and no doubt is eaten up with Clinton Derangement Syndrome although he’s semi skilled at hiding the seriousness of his “illness”.

    Perhaps some day the true story will come out about the extent to which he was involved with Donna Brazille et al in defeating Hillary.

    I guess we just have to look at Karl Rove as the pitful little guy he really is and keep our eyes wide open about anything he says or does when it comes to our Hillary.

  144. SHV, I agree, the doctors are getting hit really hard…what I think Gonzo is misunderstanding is that people who work whether professional or hourly…they aren’t getting rich anymore…its the business men who really make the money.
    ********************

    Please confloyd don’t make assumptions. I know whats going on! And SHV I am sure your friend the specialist does not have to repay all the loans in the first year and will within a few years be making a good living after the deduction for the buy in is complete.

  145. Shadowfax – I’m not familiar with the younger generation using the word “b*tch” as a positive word for other women, but I have heard again and again and again men using it to degrade other men. It’s no longer bad enough to call another man a b*stard – nope, it’s much much worse to call him a b*tch, because we know how those darn women are second class, so that’s a much bigger insult to a guy than b*stard is.

  146. SHV, I agree, the doctors are getting hit really hard..
    ********
    It’s not time to cry poverty for the MDs quite yet but many people with advanced degrees are finding that education is not a protection from unemployment. Countries such as India and China have highly educated scientists, engineers, software programmers, etc. who will work for a fraction of an American income. Many of “jobs’ requiring advanced education are easily outsourced. Traditional “service” jobs that a person with a High School or College education could work and support a family are also being outsourced. The transfer of wealth to the upper 1% is not sustainable. Here is a graph that shows the transfer of wealth to the upper 1% over time. It peaked in 1928 and then the economy crashed and reached a low in 1976. Since the Carter/Reagan transition, the curve is back to 1928 levels. The only threat to the kleptocrats was the Clinton era…one reason why Gore had to be defeated.

    http://www.demos.org/inequality/numbers.cfm

    One thing that I haven’t seen mentioned with the proposed huge reductions in Medicare is that Medicare essentially funds post graduate medical education in this country. That will be an area that is likely to be gutted. I was in the post Medicare funding era when the yearly salary for an Intern went from $300 per year to $1,700, to $3,330 to ~$7,000 over about five years, I thought that was pretty good pay for 120 hours of work per week. :>)

  147. (so many conversations going on at once…love it.)

    —–
    lorac
    August 4th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Shadowfax – I’m not familiar with the younger generation using the word “b*tch” as a positive word for other women, but I have heard again and again and again men using it to degrade other men. It’s no longer bad enough to call another man a b*stard – nope, it’s much much worse to call him a b*tch, because we know how those darn women are second class, so that’s a much bigger insult to a guy than b*stard is.

    ————-
    Yes, men saying some other guy is his ‘bitch’ is like saying they have control over them, that they are submissive and stupid for being submissive.

    No matter how you color it, it’s a slam to degrade women.

  148. Paula said:
    basement angel, I agree with you totally about the tax structure in this country.

    =============

    With you and HIllary and Bill. ;=)

    Thanks for facts and cites.

    I’ve forgotten the details and cite, but in 2000 someone did a poll and found that c. 23% thought they WERE in the top 3%, and c. 19% expected to get there soon.

  149. Uppity is on a righteous rant…

    Barack’s little Women problem, and Jew problem, and Hispanic problem, and Independent problem
    Posted on August 3, 2010 by Uppity Woman

    The Lying One would never be parking his butt and smoking his Marlboros in the Oval Office chair if it weren’t for certain groups of people, enough of whom bought his tripe and put him there. Of course most of the readers of this blog knew BS when they saw it, and it’s taken more than a year for the rest to catch up. That’s pretty slow for a bunch of people who pretended they were Upscale in the brains department, but that’s no surprise either. Obama attracted all the useful fools he could muster, while the rest of us watched in horror, knowing this guy was nothing more than an illusion with a hidden agenda.

    Now Barack has a little problem. Americans are learning who he really is, what he really is, and how little his promises meant. They are shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    Women, for starters, have just figured out that the pig who played “99 Problems But A Bitch Ain’t One Of Them” at his rally, the pig who pointed out to two admirers that he didn’t have a b@ner in his pants, it was just his vibrating cell phone, the guy who told a female pharmacist that he would kiss her if she voted for him, the pig who told a female reporter to ‘Hold on Sweetie,” just doesn’t give a rat’s ass about, much less have a whit of respect for women. This is a guy who has bargained away mammograms before age 50, for Chrissakes. This is a guy who bargained with Iran and helped place them on the Women’s Rights Commission at the UN–because they wanted to be on the HUMAN Rights Commission-can’t have that! Let’s pretend we don’t notice and give those animals to the Wimmin!

    This is a guy who spoke in Cairo about how woman’s rights boil down to her right to wear a hijab. A guy who made it clear that Human Rights are nice but are NOT a priority. A guy who never sticks his neck out on the abortion issue. The guy who, when making one of his fake visits to the Gulf, wanted to discuss the tar balls a female reporter said she found in her bathing suit. This mental adolescent is disgustingly disrespectful of women. So, do you really think this smirking woman-hater has your best interests at heart, ladies? Really, “Sweetie”?

    Golly, what a surprise.

    Dig deeper and the polling points to another ominous sign: Obama’s approval with white college-educated females has dipped below 50% for the first time in his presidency. Tasked with making household budget decisions, women are skeptical of the President’s health care plan and disappointed in our economic outlook. This explains Obama’s effort to woo the women of “The View.” It also explains his administration’s backing of an equal-pay bill in Congress – the rallying cry of bra-burning feminists. But don’t expect them to buy it. Talk is cheap.

    I guess you have to be a “bra burner,” a term I haven’t heard in years, to expect equal pay for equal work. So much for this reporter. Women have a lot of nerve expecting that, don’t you think? Apparently this reporter hasn’t figured out that the guy tapping out a story at the desk next to her, the one she often has to help, makes more money than she does. Perhaps she should burn her bra. But she shouldn’t hold out hope. Sexist Obama paid his female campaign staffers less than he paid the Beer-Pong Boyz. That’s what made his lame Lilly Ledbetter gesture almost comical in a Do As I Say Not As I Do kind of way. So if you think he’s serious about this issue, then I can grow pineapples in the Adirondacks. He just wants to sucker punch you into voting for his lackys in November. You go ahead and fall for it. Why should 2010 be any different in the Stupidity Department than 2008? Me? I would stay home before I would vote for an Obama lacky OR one of those far right meddling theocratic crackpots. Barack is counting on you, because after all, “Where else are they gonna go?”. That’s why he pandered to you on The View. No other reason, girlz.
    You sure?????????

    Feminist, my ass.

    The reporter got one thing right about Obama: Talk is cheap and nobody does cheap-talk like Barack Obama. Equal pay my ass. Women are lucky if they come out of this administration without burqas as far as I’m concerned. Barring none, Barack Obama in his words and actions is most definitely the most sexist President I have ever known in my not so short life.

    So, the This- Is- What- A- Feminist- Looks- Like crowd is catching on. Barack Obama is not and never was what a feminist looks like. He couldn’t care less about you bitches. Get it yet? Judging from the numbers, not enough of you do Get It. What do you need, a telephone pole on your heads? No wonder women’s rights have been kicked backwards by 40 years in just a few short Obama years. Frankly, you should consider yourselves lucky if the worse he does during this term is keep you from getting the pay you deserve.

    One more thing to you supposed “educated females”: The reason the expression “Women and minorities” is used is because woman are not a minority. They are the, repeat after me….M A J O R I T Y. Try acting like it and stop this sexist pig from bargaining away the rights other people stood in the rain and snow for you to have. Your complacency is his tool.

    But wait! There’s an added bonus! If you call within the next ten minutes, you can toss Jews into the mix. He’s lost ground with them too.

    Frankly, given his actions and behaviors in 2008, and that elusive video of Obama speaking at Islamofascist Rashid Khalidi‘s party, you know, the video the press refused to release to the public, I find it hard to believe that any Jew with any sense could possibly have voted for this anti-Semite. Okay, so in addition to women, Jews caught on kind of late. I’m not so sure that “Better late than never” works well here, though. Obama clearly has no use for Jews or Israel and neither does the preponderance of his cabinet.

    Jewish voters have grown more skeptical as well. Obama’s newfound warmth toward Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel after a very public scolding is being taken with a triple helping of kosher salt in the American Jewish community. This presents fund-raising difficulties with a demographic that contributed heavily to his 2008 campaign.

    I’m sure Obama will make up the loss of fund-raising revenues by tapping Hamas again, just like he did in 2008. I guess America’s Jewish population didn’t notice that. I did. Or he can use that same Cold Call Center in Gaza City that he used in 2008 to solicit replacement contributions.

    more…

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/baracks-little-women-problem-and-jew-problem-and-hispanic-problem-and-independent-problem/

  150. Ahhh, so you didn’t get rich because of hardwork. You got rich because of stock that increased in value for a company that is not yours.

    Could you have made my point more perfectly? You didn’t earn that. You didn’t create the value of thee stock. You got lucky.

    Your “husband” could have worked for one of the myriad companies that have pissed heir employees retirement funds away just as easily. People who worked at Enron were rich one month and dirt poor the next. You’re no different. Your husband didn’t have the brains to create that wealth – someone else did. You weren’t even smart enough to hang on to it.

    And spare us about all the overtime. Moat people have good work ethics and they can also comprehend that defining words correctly matters.

  151. Posted on PUMApac

    I’M sure I’ve taken and passed this test before.

    The One (1) Question Test:
    This test only has one question, but it’s a very important one.
    By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally.
    The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which
    you
    will have to make a decision.
    Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous.

    THE SITUATION:
    You are in Florida, Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you
    caused by a hurricane with severe flooding.
    This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photojournalist
    working
    for a major newspaper, and you’re caught in the middle of this epic
    disaster.
    The situation is nearly hopeless. You’re trying to shoot career-making
    photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some
    disappearing
    under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury.

    THE TEST:
    Suddenly you see a man and a woman in the water. They are fighting for
    their lives, trying not to be taken down with the debris.
    You move closer. Somehow they look familiar.
    You suddenly realize who they are. It’s Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi!!
    At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take
    them
    under forever.

    You have two options:
    You can save their lives or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer
    Prize-winning
    photo, documenting the deaths of two of the world’s most powerful
    people.

    Here’s the question, and please give an honest answer….

    Would you select High Contrast Color film, or would you go with the
    classic
    simplicity of Black and White?

  152. Another state tells Obama to go to hell.

    Missouri Votes to Block Health Insurance Mandate

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — Missouri voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a key provision of President Barack Obama’s health care law, sending a clear message of discontent to Washington and Democrats less than 100 days before the midterm elections.

    With about 70 percent of the vote counted late Tuesday, nearly three-quarters of voters threw their support behind a ballot measure, Proposition C, that would prohibit the government from requiring people to have health insurance or from penalizing them for not having it.

    That would conflict with a federal requirement that most people have health insurance or face penalties starting in 2014.

  153. After looking at that devastating Missouri vote on “Obamacare” and the low turnout of Democrat rank & file voters in Kansas, Missouri and Michigan, if I were a Democrat I would be very very worried.

  154. There is more to this birthday thing, why would they not want some big birthday that they usually do, its like she can’t stand to be near him.

  155. Washington (AP) Michigan Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick lost her bid for an 8th term yesterday, becoming the 8th incumbent lawmaker to be fired by a frustrated electorate.

  156. Well you were his waterboy during the election, so stop whining now.

    Jack Cafferty Rips the Bureaucratic ‘Obama-nation’ Created by ObamaCare

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/08/03/jack-cafferty-rips-bureaucratic-obama-nation-created-obamacare

    On Tuesday’s Situation Room, CNN’s Jack Cafferty used the term “Obama-nation,” a pun on the word “abomination,” which is used on many conservative blogs, to slam the “sprawling bureaucratic giant…that seems to be the result of President Obama’s new health care law.” Cafferty admitted during his commentary that ObamaCare is “shaping up to be exactly what the critics were afraid it would be.”

    The CNN commentator devoted his regular Cafferty File segment 12 minutes into the 6 pm Eastern hour to the recent report from the Congressional Research Service that, as Cafferty put it, “says it’s ‘impossible’ to estimate the number of agencies, boards, and commissions that will be created by this new law.” Cafferty explained that the report “points to many reasons for this. First off, the parts of the law that create these new bodies vary drastically. In some cases, the law gives a lot of details- in other cases, barely a mention.”

    Later, the CNN personality cited one provision in the ObamaCare law which “requires six separate agencies- six- within Health and Human Services to each establish an Office of Minority Health- six!” After listing two delays in getting new bureaucracies set up, he continued that there were “questions about the ability of Congress to carry out oversight of this sprawling mess.”

    At the end of the segment, Cafferty asked his usual “Question of the Hour” of his viewers: “How’s the government going to manage our health care if it’s impossible to know the number of agencies, boards, and commissions that are created by the new health care law?” He even got one minor dig at his nemesis on the right, Sarah Palin. He asked anchor Wolf Blitzer what he thought of his use of the “Obama-nation” term. When Blitzer replied he hadn’t heard of it before, Cafferty quipped, “Me and Sarah Palin- we make up these words.”

  157. moononpluto,

    Well, some of us who are Democrats are happy to see some of it. Obama’s health care plan is an atrocity and it’s got to go. There are a lot of blue dogs who make it impossible for even a Democratic majority to function well – I don’t mind seeing them go either.

    I want some real FDR Democrats in Congress and we have way too few at the moment. Some big changes are necessary to have a shot at putting this nation right again.

  158. Of course its a disaster, i’m just furious at all those idiots who preached utopia and are now finding out Obama was the disaster we all knew he would be.

  159. turndownobama – I believe MOST Americans, were HRC VEEP, say “Bring it on” to am Obama impeachment. They (and we) so want Obama out of the White House so much, that even to the Ultra Right, Hillary would be a relief for the next two years and be someone they felt they could beat in 2012.

    In the meantime, Hillary would be able to prove her chops by working to undo the most egregious offensive Obama Policies and be able to run as the REAL reformer. Just my opinion. But God, I would hate to see her run with him.

  160. Newt could not match Clinton’s intellect and lost in 90s, I think he will win against Obama’s puny “professorial” intellect in 2012. You all know what Obama will do, right? Throw Newt’s sexual indiscretions to his face. A match made in heaven. But I like listening to Newt better than Obama, at least there is some coherent logic and depth in what he says.

  161. basement angel
    August 4th, 2010 at 1:26 am
    Ahhh, so you didn’t get rich because of hardwork. You got rich because of stock that increased in value for a company that is not yours.

    Could you have made my point more perfectly? You didn’t earn that. You didn’t create the value of thee stock. You got lucky.
    **********************

    Once again your jealously is showing. Sorry you never made it. Got lucky? I guess working extremely long hours 0530 till 10 pm everyday for 26 years, saving, investing, and sacrificing is too much for the likes of your arrogant, narcissistic self. All you seem able to do is name call and take others money and NOT finish the work. Work, a true 4 letter word to you . I usually ignore your trash, unless I am supporting another poster…I will now go back to that policy. Why Admin doesn’t block you is beyond me. He’she must feel sorry for you.

    Here is a novel idea, instead of getting on the blog and wasting precious time, why don’t you use that time to “finish” that little project you took other’s money for?

  162. Shadowfax
    August 4th, 2010 at 1:17 am
    **************

    I hate to say this, but women are their own enemy. I say this as a woman who works in a female dominated field.I don’t care how many post graduate degrees they have, few have cajones and many continue to vote and support policies and people that are not in women’s best interest. I live in Austin and quite frankly these fool’s still love the fraud and blame him for, in reality, nothing. I was listening to a group of “them ” recently talking about how the fraud would get re-elected. Unbelievable.

  163. Schumer, Gillibrand, Weiner & Obama Silent on Ground Zero Mosque

    As the proposal to build a 13-story Islamic center two blocks from Ground Zero moves forward and controversy surrounding the plan grows, top New York Democrats are maintaining radio silence on the matter.

    A spokesman for Senator Chuck Schumer told the Wall Street Journal two weeks ago that the senator is “not opposed” to building the mosque near Ground Zero (as a matter of law, decency, or both, it wasn’t clear). But Schumer himself was mum this afternoon following the Senate Democrats’ weekly luncheon. Asked by THE WEEKLY STANDARD to elaborate on his position (is the mosque good for interfaith relations? insensitive to 9/11 families?), Schumer didn’t reply and ducked into a senators-only elevator, staring blankly ahead while waiting for the elevator doors to close.

    A call this afternoon to Schumer’s office was not returned. And though a spokesman for New York’s junior senator Kirsten Gillibrand told the Journal that Gillibrand supports the mosque, Gillibrand’s office also hasn’t responded to a request for clarification on the issue from TWS. Meanwhile, the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent reports that liberal firebrand Anthony Weiner of New York City will not respond to requests for comment on the Ground Zero Mosque.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/schumer-gillibrand-weiner-obama-silent-ground-zero-mosque

  164. What the F… is she on? What has she been smoking?

    Eleanor Clift: Obama’s Poll Numbers Down Because He Hasn’t Blamed Bush Enough

    After the release of a number of polls Tuesday showing President Obama’s favorability rating plummeting, his minions in the media were out in force trying to blame the slide on something or someone else.

    Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift, ever the dutiful shill always at a Democrat’s service when the chips are down, took [1] a predictably absurd tack: Obama hasn’t blamed George W. Bush enough for all that ails the nation.

    “Obama hasn’t done as good a job as Reagan of blaming his predecessor,” wrote Clift after sharing some of Obama’s dismal poll numbers.

    For our sins Clift elaborated:

    Jimmy Carter for years served as the GOP’s version of Herbert Hoover while Obama let George W. Bush slip away into the ether, a former president so invisible that he might as well be in a witness-protection program. Bush’s upcoming book, Decision Points, won’t be released until a week after the November election, reinforcing the GOP’s decision to keep the unpopular president out of the mix in the midterms.

    Readers are reminded that another Democrat media shill Bill Press told [1] his radio listeners Tuesday that Obama’s declining poll numbers were due to Americans being spoiled, impatient children.

    What do we learn from this?

    That no matter what the current president does, and no matter what happens to the economy, in Iraq, in the Gulf of Mexico, or anywhere on the planet, Obama has media minions that will quickly be out in force trying to deflect blame from him without regard to facts or reason.

    After all, as it pertains to Clift’s argument, there likely hasn’t been an administration in history that has spent more time blaming the country’s problems on the previous president.

    To suggest otherwise is what Hillary Clinton would say requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

    But Clift knows her role, and she plays it well.

    Of course, the magazine she writes for is in terrible financial condition desperately looking for a suitor to save it from extinction, but that’s beside the point.

    Despite the inanity in her position, Clift must be given an “A” for tossing such nonsense at her readers with a clear conscience and a straight face.

    That is certainly something she can always be counted on for.

  165. I still hate Newt…he is a hypocrit….I will never forgive or forget, but Obama bringing up Newt’s crap is ridiculous since he is nothing but a gangster….now if Hillary were to run against Newt she most certainly could kick his ass in that department…that I would love to see. I think this is why he’s not committing on running yet…he doesn’t want to go up against Hillary.

    I’m sorry just cause Newt has found the Real God at the Catholic church does not make him any better of a human being…his claws have been out on numerous occasions here lately. F*(k him.

    If the republicans can’t get Sarah to win (we know they can because they wrote the book on cheating in an election) I will stay home…I’m not voting for just any republican.

    Sam Brownback won the republican nomination for Kansas Governor….now there’s a true man of God and he is Catholic and I would vote for him any day for Potus…Newt…not a chance in hell.

  166. Sam Brownback had the cajones to walk up to Hillary in the Senate and apologize to her….he is someone that can rise above petty politics and he has a spine.

  167. All this crap about Obama dropping Biden for HRC in 2012.

    I have a better one, how about Biden dropping Obama and going with Hillary in the top slot.

    Its about as mad as the other suggestion, but i have a feeling they will dangle it on her to try and stop Hillary and then to make her look difficult if she then launches a primary challenge on.

  168. Has anyone been following the debate on The Economist? — does China “offer a better development model than the West?”

    “… is China, in the way it is developing, getting something right that democratic, free-market-espousing developed countries are getting wrong? If so, does this mean that developed countries should change the way they think about economics and politics, and how they attempt to guide the developing world? If, for example, China’s autocratic system helped it respond quickly and decisively to the global economic meltdown, should we see merit in restraining democracy? If what some see as an even bigger problem, climate change, requires rapid and far-reaching efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, should we forgive China’s fondness for diktat? Or does talk of a “China model” mask weaknesses in China’s system that will become more apparent in the years ahead and shift global opinion back in the other direction?”

    Don’t let facile labels put you off the question (Communism, Socialism, Democracy, etc) …the meat is in the discussion and debate.

  169. The silence is deafening.

    A black guy shoots 8 white co-workers in Manchester Conn allegedly because of racism (although the truth is he was asked to resign becasue he was caught on video stealing) and it’s not reported anywhere!

    The family said “Everyone has their breaking point” about why the guy went on the murder spree.

    Reminds me of the inconvenient shooting of 13 people in Texas by a Muslim officer which got next to zero press because it doesn’t fit with the POTUS story line.

    But the Sherrod case gets top billing for a week.

    Un-friggin-believable.

  170. Basil9, I agree, the press doesn’t report anything that they should. While they are lambasting the democrats for their dirty deeds several rethug congress and/or senators are under investigation….why not cover all the dirty deeds so the america people can make up their own minds who to trust….its freaking sickening.

    This is what they did to Bill Clinton…talking 24/7 about Monica, while Newt was carrying on with a woman while his wife was dying of Ca…WTF is wrong with these folks…we should not be putting up with corruption on either side….

  171. I am surprised at Weiner and Gillibrand…perhaps Obama is blackmailing them into being on his side of the mosque issue….Shumer and the idiot Bloomberg should retire…I can’t stand either of them.

    They probably don’t agree with it, but at this point in time do not want to buck the “ONE”.

  172. For anyone interested,

    Apparently, Chelsea and Marc are on the cover of the new People Magazine, with new pictures, including one of Chelsea and her mom.

  173. Inevitable Backlash Against Chelsea Clinton Wedding Begins

    8/4/10

    Back when Hillary Clinton made a particularly strange comment about her daughter’s Jewish/Methodist wedding in the context of American tolerance, it was hard not to raise an eyebrow. “We recognize the right that every single person has to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” she told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “Over the years so many of the barriers that prevented people from getting married — crossing lines of faith or color or ethnicity — have just disappeared.” Besides the obvious problem with this statement — there is one very notable barrier preventing people from getting married that has not “just disappeared” — it seemed strange that Clinton would find her daughter’s interfaith marriage so progressive. Marriage between faiths has never been illegal in the United States, and hasn’t it been a while since this has really even been an issue?

    This was a naïve question. Apparently, Chelsea’s much-publicized marriage posed a problem to a significant group of people. From the Times today:

    Some Jews fear that the societal openness confirmed by high-profile intermarriages like that of Ms. Clinton and Mr. Mezvinsky, or Caroline Kennedy and Edwin A. Schlossberg in 1986, prod more Jews to marry out of their faith. That, they worry, could threaten the vitality of a group that represents no more than 2 percent of the American population … “Everything we know about the commitment and work it takes to pass Jewish tradition on to the next generation shows that the context within which that is most likely to occur is in a household where both parents are committed to Jewish tradition,” said Steven C. Wernick, executive vice president of the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, the congregational arm.

    Well, okay, that’s a pretty specific complaint, not about interfaith marriage in general. But at least one person has a gripe about the wider implications of this famous union of Chosen and Goy: Marc Mezvinsky’s uncle Norton! Norton warned the Daily News that “the Clinton-Mezvinsky wedding extravaganza will almost certainly adversely affect pronouncements by many religious leaders in our society against inter-marriage.” Yipes! Somebody’s mad they didn’t get invited to the ceremony.

    And finally, in more light news, the backlash to the wedding has even turned to real estate. Right after the wedding, the New York Post accepted a full-page ad from Kathleen Hammer and her husband Arthur Seelbinder, the owner of Astor Courts (where Chelsea’s wedding was famously held). Turns out the Seelbinders are selling the 50-acre Stanford White–designed Rhinebeck estate for $12 million. After taking the couple’s money for the ad — which touted the “Home of Recent Celebrity Wedding” — the Post turned around and called Donald Trump to get a quote about how tacky it was to place the ad in the first place. “Over the years, I’ve seen many tacky things take place in the wonderful world of real estate, but never have I seen anything so bad,” the Donald told “Page Six.” “It was disgusting, and if I were Bill or Hillary Clinton, I would never speak to their ‘good friend,’ the owner, again.”

    Don’t worry, Seelbinders: When Donald Trump is telling you that you pulled a tacky real-estate move, and “Page Six” is tut-tutting your exploitation of famous people, you know you’re doing something right.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/inevitable_backlash_against_ch.html

  174. moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am
    What the F… is she on? What has she been smoking?
    *******8

    Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift, ever the dutiful shill …

    But Clift knows her role, and she plays it well…

    **************

    She’s on the payola.

  175. Fascinating Back-and-Forth With Michael Totten, On Israel, on the Conflict, on Obama’s Idealistic Stupidity
    —Ace
    This is a truly great read, a conversation that’s interesting not just because it’s loaded with insight and perspective, but because it’s an actual conversation, transcribed as it happened, and an enjoyably erudite one at that.

    There’s a lot of good stuff here (it’s quite long) but I’ll focus on the brief bit about Obama and the press, because, I guess, not every conservative cares so much about the ins and outs of Israeli politics or what Zionism actually is but we all care about Obama and the press.

    And Europeans and their arrogance.

    That said — this isn’t the best section of the interview at all. Other sections are better, such as the parts on Zionism, or whether the Palestinians have an actual identity as a people, or on the anger Israelis feel at the nonstop Nazi slurs. But this is the “grabby” part.

    Read the whole thing, as they say, but if you can’t, here’s some interesting stuff.

    MJT: So what’s it like to read about Israel in the foreign press?
    Benjamin Kerstein: Surreal.

    MJT: How so?

    Benjamin Kerstein: It rarely bears any resemblance to the country I live in, mainly because it either deals only with the conflict or because the news is produced by people who live in the English-speaking Jerusalem bubble.

    MJT: Tell me about the English-speaking Jerusalem bubble.

    Benjamin Kerstein: There’s a large population of English speakers in Jerusalem. The people who speak English tend to gather around each other, especially if they’re in the higher reaches of government or the media. They tend to hang out with other English-speaking people. They go to the places where such people congregate, they read English-language newspapers, and they watch English-language television. They have very little contact with the rest of Israel, which is predominantly Hebrew-speaking….

    What they portray as Israeli is a corner of a corner of a corner of this country.

    So when we read about Israel in the foreign press—especially if we know about the English-speaking bubble in Jerusalem, or if we’ve ever dealt with the media in Jerusalem—we recognize almost instantly the same themes over and over and over again. All you usually get is the view of a closed subculture, which is not even interesting in my opinion.

    MJT: A lot of these journalists don’t even socialize with English-speaking Israelis….

    Benjamin Kerstein: You find this sort of thing everywhere. People with shared interests and a shared language congregate. Hebrew isn’t a supremely difficult language to learn, but if you don’t have to learn it, you won’t. There are people who have lived in Jerusalem for thirty years who haven’t learned Hebrew because they don’t have to. This affects their opinions, it affects their view of the world, and it affects how they write about it.

    MJT: What is it that outsiders tend not to understand about Israel? I’m not asking because I want to pick on them, but because I don’t want to be clueless myself.

    Benjamin Kerstein: …

    Although there’s a general awareness of the Holocaust, I’m not sure outsiders are aware of the depth of the sense of trauma in Israeli society. We’re a people who really are deeply wounded. Around seventy percent of the people who moved here were forced out of the places they came from. That’s true of almost all the Jews from the Muslim world. It’s true of most of the Jews from Europe who fled persecution before the Holocaust, during the Holocaust, or after the Holocaust. Very few people came here out of free choice.

    MJT: Mostly just Americans, right?

    Benjamin Kerstein: People from the Anglo-Saxon world, yes. Even Jews who are coming here now from France are coming to escape anti-Semitism. The Jewish community in Turkey right now is undergoing a kind of silent exodus. Initially these people come here with a feeling of liberation. They release a lot of themselves. But they also have a strong sense of trauma and resentment because of what they had to go through. Particularly in the regards to the Jews from the Muslim world, there is hardly any understanding of this on the part of outsiders. There is almost no recognition of it. Outsiders are gloriously unaware of this side of Israeli history.

    Most people come here and see the conflict. They come here originally as conflict tourists, like you and me. [Laughs.] They come here for the action. They go to the West Bank, they see the checkpoints and the shootings and the riots. And they develop a loyalty to one side or the other.

    MJT: What about governments? The US and European government have their opinions about and positions on Israel, and most of their officials have never been here. They hardly know anything. They’re the ultimate outsiders, way more than conflict tourists or journalists who have at least spent some time in the place.

    Benjamin Kerstein: I’m not really qualified to talk about how American and European policymakers view Israel. So much goes on behind closed doors. I don’t know how much of it is for show. I don’t know how much of what they say about Israel in public is just to protect their interests in the Arab world.

    MJT: Feel free to speculate. Everyone else does.

    Benjamin Kerstein: My guess is that Europe and America have a pretty simple attitude: they want a solution to the conflict. It’s a pain in the ass for them, and they’d like it to go away.

    MJT: Of course. Aside from Hamas, Hezbollah, and so on, who doesn’t want it to go away?

    Benjamin Kerstein: But I also think officials in the US, Europe, and elsewhere are much less naïve than their public statements make them appear. I don’t think many of them believe that the peace process, for instance, is nearly as easy as they say it should be. They say things like, “If we could just get the Israeli and Palestinians to sit down and talk, we could reach a solution.”

    I think most of them are smart enough to know that isn’t true. I also think they’re smart enough to know that a lot of it isn’t Israel’s fault, but by blaming most of it on Israel they can buy themselves leverage in the Arab world. I think the Arab world understands this perfectly well, that it’s the politics of the gesture.

    I have to say, though, that when foreign governments say Israel has to make concessions and take responsibility for the conflict, Israelis take it all very seriously. The charge of disproportionality during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, the Goldstone Report—Israelis do not take into consideration the possibility that these may just be gestures. Israelis take it personally, and they become very angry. Israelis feel very strongly that the world is against them.

    MJT: Why do you suppose that is?

    Benjamin Kerstein: Most Israelis are here because they fled from Muslim and European countries. They don’t feel that either of those blocs have the right to lecture them about anything. Why should a country where your parents were expelled or killed have the right to tell you how to conduct yourself in a war against people who are trying to kill you today? This is something hardly any non-Israelis understand. They don’t understand how galling we find this.

    Israelis are often accused of being arrogant, but they find it extremely arrogant for Europeans and Arabs to lecture them about morals, especially during a war. What has Israel ever done that is as brutal as what Europe did to the Jews, or what Arabs routinely do to even each other during armed conflicts?

    I suspect, though, that a lot of the rhetoric is just that. It’s just rhetoric. If you look at what Europe actually does, in a lot of cases it’s better than what the rhetoric would suggest.

    I do think Europe retains an insufficiently pessimistic attitude about the Palestinian national movement, which is perhaps out of desperation. They have to go with either Fatah or Hamas. There is no other option. Most politicians, however ideological they may sound, are basically pragmatists. They think that if Hamas has to be out of the picture, they’re going to have to rehabilitate Fatah. Otherwise, there won’t be anybody to talk to. They might be right about that, but I think they are overly optimistic about Fatah signing an agreement.

    I think the smart leaders in Europe are trying to lessen the tension here now, and I think they’re doing a much better job than America is. Barack Obama actually seems to believe that he can end the conflict. He doesn’t seem to be trying to lessen the tension. He seem to be willing to exacerbate tensions if he thinks it might bring results.

    MJT: What’s he doing to exacerbate tension that Europe is not?

    Benjamin Kerstein: Calling for a settlement freeze.

    MJT: But the Europeans have been doing that all along.

    Benjamin Kerstein: Yeah, but it has less bite to it. They don’t have much clout here. They have never been able to produce any results. When the US says it, though, the Palestinians are forced to respond to it. If Obama calls for a settlement freeze, Mahmoud Abbas can’t negotiate until after a settlement freeze. When Europe calls for a settlement freeze, Abbas can dismiss it as irrelevant and remain in peace talks with Israel, but he can’t be softer on Israel than America is.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/michaeltotten/2010/08/04/the-greatest-collection-of-nightmares-on-earth/

  176. Great political choices…Corrupt or Crazy and Corrupt

    Republican gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes is warning voters that Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper’s policies, particularly his efforts to boost bike riding, are “converting Denver into a United Nations community.”

    “This is all very well-disguised, but it will be exposed,” Maes told about 50 supporters who showed up at a campaign rally last week in Centennial.
    (snip)
    http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_15673894

    Same dynamic in Nevada. The worthless SOS Harry Reid is now more likely to get re-elected for the same reason. A partially trained monkey could have beaten Reid in Nov. but Noooooo…the Rethugs had to run a total wacko

  177. moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 2:42 am

    There is more to this birthday thing, why would they not want some big birthday that they usually do, its like she can’t stand to be near him.

    ———
    I get the same feeling, something stinks in the Obama family, MO is pist at him about something?

    Maybe because he has been caught with his pants down by the public and his isn’t going going to win a second term and she knows it???

  178. Wow: 81% of Nevada Republicans say they’re certain to vote on election day

    http://tinyurl.com/249t4rv

    The bad news? Angle’s standing has slipped sufficiently far among registered voters that Reid now leads her by … 16 points. The good news? Nevada GOPers hate him so much that they’d walk through a tornado to get to the polling place. Fully 81 percent say they’re certain to vote compared to just 64 percent of Dems, which practically guarantees that the race will be close no matter how badly Angle screws up.

    The worst news? Even with a 17-point lead on enthusiasm, among likely voters she … still trails by four points. Gulp.

  179. bitterpol
    ********
    U.S. State Department lifts warning to African Americans about ‘racist’ Spaniards… just as Michelle Obama jets into Marbella

    The Obama administration faced an embarrassing diplomatic blunder today after it was forced to pull a warning about racism in Spain – just as the First Lady arrived in the country for a summer holiday.

    Staff at the U.S. State Department removed the contentious advice to travellers, which included the phrase ‘racist prejudices could lead to the arrest of Afro-Americans who travel to Spain,’ from its website on Monday.

    The First Lady landed in the Costa del Sol this morning for a break with her youngest daughter Sasha, nine.

    She is on a four-day visit and will be staying at the five-star Villa Padierna, rated as one of the world’s top 30 hotels, with 40 friends. The party has reserved 60 rooms.

    But Mrs Obama’s trip now risks being overshadowed by a row about institutionalised racism.

    The State Department advice sat alongside information about ETA and Islamist terrorist attacks in the country

    More @ link

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1300240/Michelle-Obama-jets-Marbella-5-star-holiday-daughter-Sasha.html#ixzz0vePwamGr

  180. Sheriff Taylor’s health pitch sparks cardiac arrest

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sheriff_taylor_health_pitch_sparks_IO4A3hqygAspuyCVuzzCNO

    WASHINGTON — Was it not enough for President Obama to saddle future Americans with billions of dollars in new health benefits and entitlements that they simply cannot afford?

    He also had to go and corrupt one of America’s most beloved figures of the last half-century. And stick you with the $700,000 bill.

    Before Obama started pimping him out last week to sell the highly unpopular health-care law, actor Andy Griffith was about as all-American as you could get.

    Grew up during the Great Depression.

    Award-winning gospel singer.

    As widower Sheriff Andy Taylor, he was thoughtful, big-hearted and always gently right.

    As Matlock, he always won his cases.

    Yet in a sick deal with the Obama administration, Griffith shatters his credibility, promising all roses with a health-care law that even Barney Fife could tell you is a disaster in the making.

    “This year, like always, we’ll have our guaranteed benefits,” Griffith says in the gauzy ad, as if today’s seniors are America’s last generation.

    “And with the new health-care law, more good things are coming. Free checkups, lower prescription costs. and better ways to protect us and Medicare from fraud.”

    Yeah, as if the real problem with today’s economy is that people aren’t paying enough in taxes and the government has too much money on its hands.

    Guess it is good to know that at least Andy Griffith is still in Mayberry.

    But the 59 percent of voters who want the law repealed live far from Mayberry, no matter what Griffith tries telling them.

    So sad…from Bitterpol
    ************
    And the most shocking thing about the fantasy ad?

    You paid for it.

    That’s right. It is taxpayers who are coughing up the $700,000 to run the ad all over the country in a government campaign to sell its cockeyed health-care scheme.

  181. I love that photo of Hillary with her mom and Chelsea! I can’t believe Mrs. Rodham is 91. She looks at least 20 years younger.

    BTW, I’m still certain that Hillary won’t run in 2012, unless Obama steps down. But 2016 isn’t at all out of the question. She’ll be 69 on election day 2012, and if she has her mother’s youthful genes, Hillary will still be in her prime then, lol.

  182. from Bitterpol
    ************
    if there is ANY doubt, Katie Couric is nothing but an elistist bitch, hate to use that word , but she is…… here she she in a raw video before she goes on the air ridicululing Gov. Sarah Palin…..

    before the twit interviews her.

    this is no longer bias, this is PURE propoganda

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNorlsJOw_o&feature=player_embedded

    and the story that goes with it.

    I urge you all to read it, how cBS/Couric framed the narrative to detroy Gov. Palin

  183. gonzotx
    August 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    ———
    I agree and it sounds like we are surrounded by similar people that hate to admit that Obama has failed.
    One positive thing I have found in the past few months is they are really quiet about him…no praising, no defense, just silence.

  184. I listened to the video of Katie and she does make fun of Palins kids names, town, etc. I thought it would b worse. I took someone else’s word for it. Appartenly Drudge had it on his front page.

  185. confloyd
    August 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    I still hate Newt…he is a hypocrit….I will never forgive or forget, but Obama bringing up Newt’s crap is ridiculous since he is nothing but a gangster….now if Hillary were to run against Newt she most certainly could kick his ass in that department…that I would love to see. I think this is why he’s not committing on running yet…he doesn’t want to go up against Hillary.

    A big fat YES on that one!

    If the republicans can’t get Sarah to win (we know they can because they wrote the book on cheating in an election) I will stay home…I’m not voting for just any republican.

    —–

    It will take a lot for me to pull the lever on any Rethug again, (I voted for McPalin as a protest, first time voting Rethug in my life).

    I do want power taken away from the Fraud, so I have to consider Rethug congressfolks…

    my state is gone too far to the left, so maybe some rethugs need to get in there too to screw up the dimwits in Calif congress.

    I like Diane Feinstein, she is the ONLY incumbent I will vote for. Will not vote for Meg Whitman, only if Hell freezes over.

    When considering the minions in my state, I will probably vote Independent when I can. Anyone running a second term or without opposition will not get my vote.

  186. gonzotx
    August 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    ———————-

    I read the entire article with Michael Totten
    interviewing Benjamin Kerstein. Very interesting and spot on with his views on how Israelis feel about the charges against them.

    As a practicing Jew myself, and a strong supporter of the State of Israel, I have to admit that I share those emotions.

  187. #
    moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    All this crap about Obama dropping Biden for HRC in 2012.

    I have a better one, how about Biden dropping Obama and going with Hillary in the top slot.

    Its about as mad as the other suggestion, but i have a feeling they will dangle it on her to try and stop Hillary and then to make her look difficult if she then launches a primary challenge on.
    ——–

    First, didn’t Biden say he only wanted to be VP for one term?

    I know that Hillary and Bill are already considering all the moves and what her future goals are. They are experts at chess, as long as their opponent isn’t cheating. Now they have experience at how the DNC and Obama dirty tricks go, so if they see the same drama will be a rerun, she will not run for Pres. in 2012. She also will not want to run around the world like Superwoman for another 4 years, working like a dog while the Fraud plays and screws up her party further.

    If Hillary decides to run again, she will need to know the game is fair, the DNC will not strip her in public again, and that her supporters will be there. She probably knows that her supporters do not want her to be VP.

    Being an SOS gave her the opportunity to meet and work with other nations, build her long resume, show the obots what a real leader is like and how experience does matter.

  188. pm317
    August 4th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Three generations of Rodham/Clinton/Mezvinsky

    —–
    Love these photos, finally get to see a large photo of Bill and Chelsea, her dress is really beautiful…Bill looks like he is doing everything he can to keep his feelings in check.

    Hillary, her mom and Chelsea…what a photo…grandma has her hand on Chelsea’s buns. 😉

  189. DON’T FORGET TO CELEBRATE OBAMA’S BIRTHDAY!!! WHATTAGUY!

    He won’t forget, he’ll be partying.

    So he was allegedly born on this day. Perhaps even in this country. No one knows for sure…

  190. NEW LOW: RCP AVG. FOR DISAPPROVAL HITS 50% FOR FIRST TIME

    Mind you, it’s the average, including all the skewed friendly polls.

    realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

  191. here’s the breakdown, and he’s in negative territory across all polls except Reuters, a tie:

    Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
    RCP Average 7/13 – 8/3 44.7 50.0 -5.3
    Gallup 8/1 – 8/3 44 48 -4
    Rasmussen Reports 8/1 – 8/3 46 53 -7
    USA Today/Gallup 7/27 – 8/1 41 53 -12
    FOX News 7/27 – 7/28 43 50 -7
    Reuters/Ipsos 7/22 – 7/25 48 48 Tie
    CNN/Opinion Res. 7/16 – 7/21 47 50 -3
    Quinnipiac 7/13 – 7/19 44 48 -4

  192. rgb44hrc,

    He won’t just be partying. The coffers are empty and the fundraising will be in high gear.

  193. Does anyone know how to find the best lawyer in an area in Texas for child custody…I don’t know how to do this!

  194. #
    rgb44hrc
    August 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    DON’T FORGET TO CELEBRATE OBAMA’S BIRTHDAY!!! WHATTAGUY!

    He won’t forget, he’ll be partying.

    So he was allegedly born on this day. Perhaps even in this country. No one knows for sure…
    ——-

    On Greta last night, Jan Brewer has a website set up where you can electronically letter a b-day cake for Barry, one choice is:

    “Happy Birthday Mr. President. Do your job! …

  195. Nice article about Hillary and the wedding.

    stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2010/08/04/hillary-clintons-motb-moment-stunning-like-a-princess/?xid=rss-topheadlines

  196. The freakin’ nerve! I just found this in my email inbox…

    Only a million of his obots give a rat’s-ass for him now, bwahahahaha…

    Friend —

    Today’s the President’s 49th birthday, and I just heard how many of you have signed his birthday card so far: 1,266,611 as of this morning.

    It’s already an amazing show of support. But before the card is delivered with all of your signatures, I want to make sure you have one more chance to add your name — I just added mine.

    Will you sign it with me, if you haven’t already?

    Thanks,

    David Plouffe

    —————–Original Message—————–
    From: Michelle Obama
    Subject: Will you sign Barack’s birthday card with me?

    Friend —

    Every year, our family tries to come up with a fun way to wish Barack a happy birthday. (For example, this year we decided to go on a vacation to Spain with herds of friends and not invite him.)

    And this August 4th, when he turns 49, I have something new in mind.

    This has been a big — and hectic — year for him. After signing the Affordable Care Act Is this a new title? Good they are not calling it Hillary’s ‘Univeral Health Care Plan’. and Wall Street reform into law — and completing his first year as president — I think it’s safe to say we will remember it for a long time.

    ———-

    Bite me!!!

  197. She’ll be 69 on election day 2012, and if she has her mother’s youthful genes, Hillary will still be in her prime then, lol.

    ===============

    Mmmm! I just imagined a poster in 2016 showing Hillary WITH her mother.

  198. I wonder if Bambi’s right hand man Reggie Love is spending the night with him in Chicago…………………while Michelle is off staring at Spanish Boys.

  199. She probably knows that her supporters do not want her to be VP.

    =====================

    I hated that idea in 2008, but at this point I wouldn’t mind. In 2008 it would have meant giving up her Senate seat, but now that’s gone already. As SOS she’s not exactly acted subordinate to Obama. After all this flying around dealing with crises, VP might be an easier job. Looking at what she’s done with SOS, she could probably do something good with VP also.

    And she’d be in the line of succession!

  200. Hm. Isn’t SOS forbidden from raising money for her own future campaign? But as VP she could do that?

  201. and we wonder why there is no money……………………….

    Federal Workers Pocketed ‘Fraudulent’ Social Security Payments, GAO Finds

    Hundreds of federal employees may have improperly reaped millions in Social Security disability benefits, according to a government watchdog that caught workers at several major agencies pocketing fraudulent payments.

    The Government Accountability Office issued a report that showed at least 1,500 federal employees may have wrongly received benefits. The group’s investigation, which focused on two Social Security programs for people who have limited incomes due to disabilities, found several specific cases in which beneficiaries were earning well above the income cap while still receiving benefits. In one case, a Transportation Security Administration screener was overpaid $108,000, according to the report.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/04/federal-workers-pocketed-fraudulent-social-security-payments-watchdog-finds/

  202. I urge you all to read it, how cBS/Couric framed the narrative to destroy Gov. Palin
    ***********

    This is true however, Couric and the MM had already framed the narrative PRIOR to the interview. Palin walked into a trap that the McCain group ill prepared her for.

    I too think SP is smart like a Fox and you live and learn. She will not let that happen again.

    **********

    JanH,

    I grew up in Milwaukee and at that time there was a large Jewish population. As you know, Golda Meir lived there. I was Lutheran, but I dreamed of working for Simon Wiesenthal…hunting Nazi’s. I really wish I had gone in that direction. By the way, if you go to the Centers website they have a picture of Hillary on it, not the freaking fraud!

  203. If Hillary is put in as Obama’s VP won’t the Republicans target her even worse than before to try to lessen any potential voter appeal she would bring to the ticket? I mean, wouldn’t it get very, very ugly towards her. Also, by becoming Obama’s VP she would have to get out there and give speeches supporting his agenda. Since he and his legislation is so unpopular, wouldn’t that affect her popularity and thus value to the ticket as well? Wouldn’t voters just see her as another politician who does whatever to have power…particularly when the Republicans show footage from 2008 where she is shown ripping into Obama and his ideas.

    I just don’t get those columnists promoting Hillary as Obama’s VP. Sometimes it seems to me like magical thinking–you know, lets put Hillary as his running mate and they will be an invincible team for reelection. I’m not as asute as all of you but would it really be that way? Although it would be historic, people are looking for answers and leadership….and people vote for the top of the ticket, not the VP.

    Just wondering about all this….

  204. turndownobama
    August 4th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    ************

    I think I would throw up if she took the VP. Besides, she is MUCH more effective as SOS. Why align herself with the fools failed policies? She would have to go around and support the fools initiatives. Now she can just hop on a plane and ignore him and the manchildren that he surrounds himself with. People are not connecting her with his failures now.

    By the way, Gibb the clown is on TV saying the oil spill has disappeared and it was really just comparable to opening a coke can in the Astrodome….Really? It has gotten scary, really scary. And we know that photographers have been banished from the area or from publishing pics of the dying birds, dolphins, fish…

    Did I tell you guys about the story I read about a Gulf fisherman that went out fishing when it was first going on because he knew that it would be shut down soon? He said a dolphin came up to him in his boat, unusually close. He drifted a bit and the dolphin followed him. It was at that time he noticed the oil coming out of its sprout. It was suffocating and it was asking for help. I cried. I just cried, and so did he.

  205. Hillary was born Oct. 26, 1947, so she will turn 63 this year, ergo 65 in 2012, and yes, 69 in 2016.

    Confloyd is right.

  206. ” admin
    August 4th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Welcome back Norma Desmond. ”

    THANKS, Admin!

    I have to go back to work soon and work in the morning again, but I will BBL – and as always – will be watching!

    XO

    Norma

  207. ZERO-BAMA WONDERS WHY HE IS NO LONGER ADORED…

    I guess here’s where Eleanor Clift should come to the rescue with advice for Mr. Donothing: “Obama is not doing a good enough job of blaming Bush”.

    noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqmFzvbbAzSQ&pos=1

    U.S. Economy: Spending Stagnates, Home Sales Drop
    ==============

    By Timothy R. Homan and Courtney Schlisserman

    Aug. 3 (Bloomberg)

    Consumer spending, pending home sales and factory orders were all weaker than projected in June, showing the U.S. recovery lost momentum heading into the second half of the year as employment stagnates.

    Household purchases, which account for about 70 percent of the economy, were unchanged from May, according to figures from the Commerce Department issued today in Washington. Contracts to buy existing houses unexpectedly dropped for a second month and factory bookings fell more than twice as much as economists estimated, other reports showed.

    Stocks dropped, depressed by earnings at companies like Procter & Gamble Co. that showed some Americans are cutting spending on name brands as the jobless rate hovers near 10 percent. Slower growth means it will take even longer to regain the 8.4 million jobs lost during the worst economic slump since the 1930s.

    “The consumer is less willing to spend,” said Guy LeBas, chief fixed income strategist at Janney Montgomery Scott LLC in Philadelphia, who projected purchases would stall. “Soft labor markets are likely to remain so through 2013. There’s not a lot of opportunity for income growth.”

    The Standard and Poor’s 500 Index fell 0.5 percent to 1,120.46 at the 4 p.m. close in New York as shares of Procter & Gamble slumped 3.4 percent. The dollar dropped and Treasury securities rose, sending the yield on the benchmark 10-year note down to 2.91 percent from 2.96 percent late yesterday.

    Less Than Projected
    ——————

    The median estimate of 76 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for a 0.1 percent gain in spending. Projections ranged from a decrease of 0.3 percent to a 0.3 percent gain.

    Incomes also stagnated in June, failing to increase for the first time since September, compared with a 0.2 percent gain projected by the survey median. Wages and salaries in June fell 0.1 percent, the first drop since September.

    Procter & Gamble, the world’s largest household-products maker, today forecast first-quarter profit that fell short of analysts’ projections. The maker of Olay skin products, Pampers diapers and Tide detergent has increased promotions and new products to capture customers from competitors. Some money- conscious consumers have switched to cheaper generic items as they strive to recover from the recession.

    “We see a mix effect as consumers without jobs or in challenging positions trade down,” Chief Executive Officer Bob McDonald said today on a conference call.

    Bernanke’s View
    —————

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said yesterday he was counting on a pickup in wages to boost consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.

    “We have a considerable way to go to achieve a full recovery in our economy,” Bernanke said in a speech to southern U.S. state lawmakers in Charleston, South Carolina. Still, “rising demand from households and businesses should help sustain growth,” and consumer spending “seems likely to pick up in coming quarters from its recent modest pace.”

    The savings rate for American households increased to 6.4 percent, the highest level since June 2009, to $725.9 billion.

    “Consumers are still a bit cautious,” said Scott Brown, chief economist at Raymond James & Associates Inc. in St. Petersburg, Florida. “The biggest driver for spending is going to be jobs. You need stronger economic growth to generate job growth.”

    The jobless rate climbed to 9.6 percent last month from 9.5 percent in June, economists forecast a Labor Department report Aug. 6 will show. Payrolls probably dropped by 60,000 workers, reflecting a drop in temporary government employees as the census wound down, the survey also showed.

    Housing Slump
    ————

    A lack of jobs is one reason Americans aren’t buying houses. The number of contracts to purchase previously owned houses fell 2.6 percent in June, indicating demand kept unraveling after the expiration of a homebuyer tax credit.

    The index of pending home resales dropped to 75.7, the lowest level since data began in 2001, figures from the National Association of Realtors showed. Economists projected sales would rebound 4 percent following a 30 percent plunge in May that was also the biggest on record.

    The end of the government tax credit worth as much as $8,000 on April 30 means a sustained recovery in housing now depends on employment and wage gains.

    “We’re still seeing the aftereffects of the homebuyer tax credit expiration,” said Dean Maki, chief U.S. economist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York, who forecast a decline in June pending home sales. “The comeback from the housing downturn is likely to be sluggish.”

    Manufacturing Cools

    Even manufacturing, which led the world’s biggest economy out of the economic slump, is cooling. Orders placed with factories declined 1.2 percent, more than double the 0.5 percent drop projected by the median forecast of economists surveyed.

    Smaller increases in consumer spending and inventories may offset gains in business investment and growing exports, leading to a more sustainable factory expansion.

    “A downshift in the manufacturing boom is under way,” said Aaron Smith, a senior economist at Moody’s Economy.com in West Chester, Pennsylvania. “This shouldn’t be taken as a signal of widespread weakening. Businesses still have expansion in their sights and will provide the fuel for growth.”

  208. Nothing but the best for MO and her friends, reserving 60 rooms in one of the most expensive hotels in the world on OUR DIME!!

    Check out the photos of this place…

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    VIP welcome: The First Lady and her daughter are greeted at Malaga airport

    She is on a four-day visit and will be staying at the five-star Villa Padierna, rated as one of the world’s top 30 hotels, with 40 friends. The party has reserved 60 rooms.
    [snip]

    ‘Millionaires’ playground’: The hotel Villa Padierna in Marbella, where Michelle and Sasha Obama will stay for four days

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1300240/Michelle-Obama-jets-Marbella-5-star-holiday-daughter-Sasha.html#ixzz0vfPsFF4B

  209. It just seems strange MO is going on vacation without her husband. I don’t think Hillary ever did that when Bill was president. And if she had, everyone would’ve been commenting about the state of her marriage.

  210. gonzotx
    August 4th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
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    Weisenthal is one of my all-time heros. I just re-watched the documentary about him on you tube the other night: “I Have Not Forgotten You.” A job with the center would have been so interesting.

    And Golda Meir…what an amazing lady. So lucky for you to have lived in the same area.

  211. Re basement angel: [snip] Moat [Most?] people have good work ethics and they can also comprehend that defining words correctly matters.
    ————————————————————————
    Playing semantics and defining words correctly may be your calling in this uncertain world, but more of us imho would be among the ones with burlap wrapped around our bleeding feet forging on with George Washington to the freezing waters of the Delaware in a bitter cold snow and ice storm to actually establish/save our freedom.

    I have a definition for you from http://mw1.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriot PATRIOT.

    Main Entry: pa·tri·ot
    Pronunciation: \ˈpā-trē-ət, -ˌät, chiefly British ˈpa-trē-ət\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriōtēs, from patria lineage, from patr-, patēr father
    Date: 1605
    : one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests

    I would that you as a patriot do more than provide insane definitions. A patriotic act on your part would be to provide Alisyn Commarota with a copy of your documumentary that may help prevent fraud, thievery and thuggery during the 2012 election process and you might make a little more money on it in the process.

  212. BA – the reason the right goes on and on about O being a ‘socialist’ is because of the health mandade and all the govt bailouts and new bureaucracy…for ex, businesses will have to report business for anything over $600…I, also, find that extremely intrusive…just the additional overreaching of the IRS in our health issues freaks the tea party and the people you speak of out and hence…they label O a Socialist

    …while I am also freaked out about the above, I agree with your statement:

    Make no mistake – caterwauling about Obama as a socialist when he is transfering money to the financial elite with the same conviction Bush did is just insane.

    …however the right has not focused as much on the ‘insider game’ O is playing with corporations…they do not ‘roll’ that way…it is not to their advantage to demonize business and corporations…

    but O is a selfish, ruthless corportist, thru and thru…the man does not have one finger pinch of the empathy, charity and compassion of Bill or Hillary Clinton…

    ********************************************************************

    just heard that Romanoff, who Bill endorsed, has closed a 14 point deficit on Bennett, who O is campaigning for…and Romanoff now has a 3-4 point lead…

    …way to go, Bill!

    *******************************************
    good one, MOP…

    moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am
    All this crap about Obama dropping Biden for HRC in 2012.

    I have a better one, how about Biden dropping Obama and going with Hillary in the top slot.
    *********************************************************

    and my two cents…no, no, no, no to Hillary as VP…no, no, no…I would rather Hillary go write a book or head up some University, or start her own foundation and global initiative…Hillary, no VP to O…please, NEVER…Hillary will be tarnished forever if she is associated with his admin and it would HURT her chances in 2016…

    We would be much better off with one term of a republican as prez and then Hillary would make a blockbuster come back in 2016…

  213. Robert Scheer simply hates the Clintons…he is part of the West Coast group of O lovers – especially during the primaries – that are so vehemently against anything connected to the clintons…I have previously mentioned a lawyer friend of mine in LA/Venice who is out of the same mold….smart people, blinded by their hate…you cannot reason with them…they revert to the reactionary behavior of a five year old..

    …even though, you notice, Scheer, like the rest of his ilk, makes excuses for O bringing on ex Clinton people, etc…true to form…O, of course, is never held responsible for his own admin…it is always someone else’s fault…even if the Prez he holds responsible is over ten years removed…(the faulty reasoning: Clinton made O do what O ran against and now does)

    …it is sad, I used to enjoy reading Robert Scheer in the LA Times and other places…many moons ago…but once these old, hardcore lefties catch the CDS, nothing will cure them…they lose all objectivity and pass it on to the newcomers…and nothing…no amount of good and goodwill that Bill and Hillary will and can do for countless people in our country and all over the world will be acknowledged…

    …they cannot help themselves…and now they will go to any length to protect O by blaming Bill…to the extent that poor, bitter Robert Scheer could not have even had the good grace just to wish chelsea and marc mazel tov…

  214. Basement is a light of sanity in an insane situation.

    ———–
    S said
    August 4th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    BA – the reason the right goes on and on about O being a ’socialist’ is because of the health mandade and all the govt bailouts and new bureaucracy…for ex, businesses will have to report business for anything over $600…I, also, find that extremely intrusive…just the additional overreaching of the IRS in our health issues freaks the tea party and the people you speak of out and hence…they label O a Socialist
    …while I am also freaked out about the above, I agree with your statement:
    Make no mistake – caterwauling about Obama as a socialist when he is transfering money to the financial elite with the same conviction Bush did is just insane.
    …however the right has not focused as much on the ‘insider game’ O is playing with corporations…they do not ‘roll’ that way…it is not to their advantage to demonize business and corporations…

    —————–

    I’m not much for bashing the GOP of Palin, McCain, and the Tea Party. But the old GOP crowd is still around and probably up to their old tricks. Label Obama’s policies ‘socialistic’ and all the Leftists will believe it and vote for him — so he can really send the money to the GOP fat cats.

    You’d think the GOP voters would have voted against him, but they apparently stayed home?

  215. I used to respect Robert Scheer, too. BTW, I love how he blames Bill for Gore’s loss in 2000. No, it’s Gore’s fault for not figuring out how to embrace the prosperity of the Clinton years while handling the Monica baggage. But of course he had numbskulls like Bob Shrum running his campaign …

  216. Re 2000, it wasn’t Gore’s fault that Jeb Bush was the Governor of FL, that a county ballot designer screwed up, that the GOP controlled the mechanism that controlled vote counts, that the Supreme Court favored Bush, etc etc.

    The GOP massively stole the 2000 election. We can’t blame Gore for that — any more than we can blame Hillary for Obama stealing the 2008 primary nomination.

    Gore WON the popular vote, and the electoral votes if they had all been counted, instead of the GOP running out the clock by backstage manipulation — as the Bots did in 2008.

  217. Re 2000, it wasn’t Gore’s fault that Jeb Bush was the Governor of FL, that a county ballot designer screwed up, that the GOP controlled the mechanism that controlled vote counts, that the Supreme Court favored Bush, etc etc.

    The GOP massively stole the 2000 election. We can’t blame Gore for that — any more than we can blame Hillary for Obama stealing the 2008 primary nomination.

    Gore WON the popular vote, and the electoral votes if they had all been counted, instead of the GOP running out the clock by backstage manipulation — as the Bots did in 2008.

  218. turndown, I agree. My point was, if Gore had allowed Clinton to campaign for him in a few states, the race wouldn’t have come down to Fla. and been close enough for the GOP to steal. But they definitely stole it, no argument there.

  219. Gore lost his own HOME state of Tennessee, his HOME state my friends, and he ran a horrendous campaign. It was his race to lose and by God he did that. Throw in the caveat that he gave a very half hearted effort in the recount in Florida.

    No doubt Jeb had a hand in the recount and the stoppage of counting the vote, but Gore lost this one on stupidity. I will never forget the horrendous job he did during the debates. I thought at one point he was either on crack or losing on purpose.

  220. Has anyone thought that maybe MO has a little friend too…afterall doesn’t she call her husband sticky??? If she is renting 30 rooms, surely one could be a boytoy??? Obama is off with is pals at the Chicago men’s club so what good for the goose is also good for the gander.

  221. confloyd,

    My theory is that she blackmailed Squat into letting her go, threatening to disclose something unflattering about him if she didn’t get her way.

    I think MO is not so stupid that she doesn’t realize her hubby is toast and she wants to get all the perks she can while the getting’s good.

    Also, maybe the trip is a way to one-up the Clinton’s? Jealousy?

    I dunno. Just speculating here but there’s definitely something rotten in Denmark besides her and his stinky feet.

  222. nahhhhh, MooSchelle is in Spain so that I can enjoy MY birthday today. She loves me and wants me to be happy. When I am asked for my birthdate online I always put 4 Aug 1961. I chuckle as I wonder if anyone has ever figured that one out.

  223. My theory is there is not much of a marriage there, she’s basically window dressing.
    *******
    She and the children are just “props” in his narcissistic life. I think that she will bail out after his one and only term is finished.

  224. gonzotx asks: Did I tell you I love you lately?

    I love you, too gonzotx. What a nice sentiment on today, my day of the year….and he had the audacity to be born on it!!!!!!!sheeshhhhh!

  225. #
    moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    My theory is there is not much of a marriage there, she’s basically window dressing.

    ———-
    I could say something about the qualifications of being a window dressing…….but I won’t. 😆

  226. #
    Shadowfax
    August 4th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    #
    moononpluto
    August 4th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    My theory is there is not much of a marriage there, she’s basically window dressing.

    ———-
    I could say something about the qualifications of being a window dressing…….but I won’t. 😆
    ……………..

    you mean looking like a set of badly dressed curtains most of the time………..

  227. In a close race, any one factor being different could have decided the outcome. We can’t blame the whole outcome on some one mistake, or even all the one candidate’s mistakes.

    Everyone makes mistakes, including Hillary and Bill.

    As to who Gore let campaign for him — in some Tennessee race he wouldn’t even let his own father campaign for him! It wasn’t necessarily personal to Bill.

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