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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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The Death Of America

How great we have fallen. On a day set aside to celebrate with fireworks the independence of a nation we instead have to contemplate the Obama oil turds polluting the beautiful beaches of the Gulf Coast. The unofficial anthem of the United States now must strike the Gulf from the inventory of “from sea to shining sea”.



This past Saturday, Hillary Clinton warned:

“Some of the countries engaging in these behaviors still claim to be democracies,” Clinton said at an international conference on the promotion of democracy and human rights. “Democracies don’t fear their own people. They recognize that citizens must be free to come together, to advocate and agitate.” [snip]

“But we must be wary of the steel vise in which governments around the world are slowly crushing civil society and the human spirit,” she said.”

Add the United States to the list of governments which fear the truth and their own people. It’s not just the Obama Dimocrats running from Tea Party activists at town halls which is troubling.

That first amongst equals – the First Amendment – is no a bulwark of democracy and against tyranny these days. Establishment of the right to worship and free exercise of religion, the right to freedom of speech, the rights of a free press, the right to peaceably assemble, and the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, all flow from the First Amendment. But increasingly those are just words. As usual with Obama, the words are betrayed by the actions.

Deceit, aided and abetted by the journalist class, is now the practice of government. That free press that Thomas Jefferson thought so essential is no longer. But perhaps the Obama turds of oil which now pollute the Gulf coast might waken some to the abuses Americans suffer silently in this age.

On the last day of June, PBS’ NewsHour protested on behalf of themselves and “many other journalists”:

“It has been virtually impossible to get any information about the federal mobile medical unit in the fishing town of Venice, La. The glorified double-wide trailer sits on a spit of newly graveled land known to some as the “BP compound.” Ringed with barbed wire-topped chain link fencing, it’s tightly restricted by police and private security guards. [snip]

For over two weeks, my NewsHour colleagues and I reached out to media contacts at HHS, the U.S. Coast Guard and everyone listed as a possible media contact for BP, in an attempt to visit the unit and get a general sense of how many people were being treated there , who they were and what illnesses they had. We got nowhere. It was either “access denied,” or no response at all. It was something that none of us had ever encountered while covering a disaster. We’re usually at some point provided access to the health services being offered by the federal government.

We tried the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals who told us to talk to HHS. HHS said they couldn’t provide us access and said they would get back to us about our questions.

We reached out to local parish officials, who told us to talk to Unified Command Center Operations. Unified Command Center Operations told us to talk to HHS… noticing a pattern here?

NewsHour colleagues — correspondent Spencer Michaels and Producer Joanne Elgart Jennings — warned us of the wild goose chase they were sent on two weeks ago while they were in Venice trying to find out what goes on there.

We found we weren’t the only ones. Fox News’ Dr. Manny Alvarez was also denied access to the unit.”

It was not so long ago that Democrats demanded transparency from government. Now, Obama Dimocrats declare transparency and practice duplicity. “They told me if I voted for John McCain that the press would get silenced and the executive branch would block accountability.”

Accountability and transparency. The words are contradicted by the actions.

“There’s no question that BP has lied extensively over the past few months about the growing Gulf oil disaster. The company has bullied journalists, fudged numbers, and even deployed fake journalists to the Gulf to write about how everything is fine. Now BP may be literally trying to cover up oiled beaches by dumping sand on top of them.

The video below, filmed by Judson Parker of Save Our Shores Florida, purportedly shows oil sandwiched between two layers of different types of sand. According to Parker, local deputies confirmed that BP dumped sand onto the Grand Isle, Louisiana beach and attempted to smooth it over.”



BP is now wedded to government power and coercion to suppress the truth. It is the American government who threatens, with jail terms, those who seek the truth. Even the man who disparaged “teabaggers” appears to be agitated enough to sound like a “teabagger”:



Anderson Cooper and the rest of Big Media enabled the Obama’s abuses. We are aware that it is self-interest and self-interest alone which motivates Cooper’s objections. For Big Media it is an economically cheap story to report from an economically depressed area of the country. Nevertheless, the objections from more and more Big Media outlets is in striking contrast to earlier worship of Obama.

It is the American government, run by Obama Dimocrats, shutting down citizens and even the usual Big Media shills from reporting facts as they occur in the Gulf. It is the American government, run by Obama Dimocrats, full of words in support of truth and transparency, which is engaged in the current oppressions in the Gulf.

“In some instances, it appears that equipment is provided simply to quiet public criticism. Mr. Nungesser, who has frequently appeared on local and national television, was apparently visited by two White House officials at his office on Fathers’ Day. According to Mr. Nungesser, the purpose of their visit was to find a way to keep him from calling attention to the lack of equipment. Specifically, they asked him, “What do we have to do to keep you off tv?” He simply replied, “give me what I need.” On another occasion, Placquemines Parish officials requested 20 skimmers at a town hall meeting held by the Coast Guard. According to Mr. Nungesser, “They gave us two skimmers to shut us up.” These accounts raise serious questions about whether the Administration is more concerned with fighting a public relations battle than combating the oil spill.”

Even the most repulsive Obama worshipers in Big Media are alarmed about the death of the Gulf coast and the duplicity of the American government – even though they cannot quite yet attack the object of their adulation, Barack Obama:

“The water means everything to the people here. The local economy is based entirely on the money earned from the fishing industry, and since May, the boats have been idled because of the oil disaster.

I am here to shoot a special for my TV One Cable Network show, Washington Watch. This town is largely African American, and considering our network targets Blacks, it was an ideal place to focus our attention. But the heartache and strain I am hearing in Pointe a la Hache is the same in other towns, whether the faces are white, Hispanic, or Asian.

It really is hard to fathom what this disaster will do to the residents here, many of them third-generation fishermen. The water is all they know, and if they can’t make a living doing this, there really is nothing else to do. The countryside of southern Louisiana is gorgeous — though the heat is stifling and the mosquitoes plentiful –but this is very much a coastal community. There are no massive shopping centers, large manufacturing facilities or high tech parks.

The bottom line: No fishing; no money; no life.[snip]

Rev. Edwards, with a black and gold Bible in hand, said it’s time for President Obama to come to small towns like Pointe a la Hache and hear firsthand from the men and women who are scraping by, angry with the bureaucracy that is preventing the resources from flowing.

He is still seething from a meeting last week with Kenneth Feinberg, the Washington, D.C. attorney President Obama appointed to oversee the $20 billion fund BP established to assist victims of the disaster.

This guy sounds like BP all the way,” said Edwards, who didn’t like what he said was Feinberg’s suggestion to fishermen that it’s best they take $100,000 now instead of trying to sue.[snip]

One fisherman said that Plaquemines Parish is their home and they want to see it thrive, but things are reaching a boiling point.

What do we have to do? Wreak havoc down here to get people’s attention because that’s what it’s coming to.”

234 years ago, that is exactly what it came to. Does the star spangled banner yet wave over the land of the free and the home of the brave? That question remains unresolved.

What is resolved is the history American inherit. 234 years ago, words gave birth to actions. They were not empty words from empty men and women. These were words that indeed still shake the world:

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. [snip]

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”

One of those who signed the Great Declaration has also made a challenge across the ages. “A republic, if you can keep it.” That challenge grows every day. That challenge was answered by previous generations. But that challenge on this July 4th, remains unanswered by the current generation – a republic - if we can keep it.



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  • admin

    Confloyd posted this video earlier. A Republic if you can keep it.

  • admin

    From the musical “Hair”, a love song to the red, white and blue:

  • confloyd

    I brought this over from the last thread…the Combine at its finest!

    http://www.breauxlott.com/

  • confloyd

    Here’s all you need to know about the democrat Breaux.

    Obama’s Lobbying Rules: Daschle & John Breaux
    Posted on 11/12/2008 by katy
    In a pointed move Barack Obama banned lobbyists from donating to his White House transition. They are forbidden from helping his transition team in any area where they lobbied for clients in the last year. The rule only applies to registered lobbyists. Many in Washington aren’t registered, as they do not lobby federal officials on specific issues.

    Take two influential Democratic ex-Senators, Tom Daschle and John Breaux. Tom hangs his hat at Alston & Bird, alongside Bob Dole and ex-Medicare Chief Tom Scully. John Breaux works with Patton Boggs and has his own firm, The Breaux Lott Leadership Group.

    Tom Daschle is not a registered lobbyist, so he can help the Obama team in any capacity. John Breaux lobbied for companies representing most major industries, according to federal records. John Breaux could have a hard time finding a way to help Barack’s transition team, were he so inspired.

  • ShortTermer

    The first Presidential televised speech:


  • basil9

    admin,

    What is happening in the Gulf is heartbreaking. I can’t bear to watch any footage (the little that’s available, that is) because my thoughts go immediately to the poor innocent creatures of the sea and air who are dying by the thousands every minute the spill goes on.

    By the same token, I can’t stand to think about the thousands of American families suffering loss of livlihood, income and home.

    It is horribly tragic.

    BTW, I was reading the Declaration today, too, and these charges by the protesters 234 years ago sound awfully familiar and eerily similar to what many at 44 complain of today.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    (Xmas Eve health care bill, anyone?)

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. (thousands of new IRS agents, hundreds of so-called commissions, etc.)

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: (jihadists)

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    (Self-explanatory)

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: (Suing Arizona, not prosecuting the Black Panthers, trying to hold 911 trials in NYC)

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us.
    (That’s RACIST!)

    We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

  • wbboei

    Pretty heady stuff. There are those of us who would say that the Old Republic died with the onset of World War II when the federal government arrogated unto itself vast powers over markets (the NRA), unions (the War Labor Board( and personal liberty (the internment of Americans of Japanese lineage). Perhaps the exigencies of war justified some of these measures.

    The problem is that after the war, we never really reverted back to the old Republic. We became the Superpower and thus failed to heed the warning of our first and greatest president to avoid foreign entanglements. Also, we discounted the testimony of our most decorated Marine Corps general that the primary aim of our foreign policy was to advance the interests of Wall Street and Big Business at the expense of the American People. Eisenhower warned of the growing power of the Military Industrial Complex and it fell on deaf ears.

    The liveliest foreign policy experts of our time tell us we cannot turn our backs on the world. I have been hearing that bromide for over forty years. It is one thing to turn your back on the world, and quite another to jump in bed with them. The problem with foreign alliances is the more they develop the more the tail begins to wag the dog. And how many times have we seen that happen.

    Barack Obama was billed as the first African American President. Yet, he was never a product of the American civil rights movement, and he never really labored in the vineyards before he was chosen to lead this nation. I believe the reason he was installed for two reasons: first, he is a puppet of the elite business and financial interests who want to form a tans-Atlantic trading block to counter China, and by Saudi and to a lesser extent European interests who worry more about the rise of radical Islam that we do for obvious reasons. He is most definitely a muslim and they believed he could provide assurances to the Muslim world which others could not.

    But in order to do this, they needed to manipulate the political system, and effectively disenfranchise the American Public. The stupid desperate and naive fell for it all hook line and sinker. Unfortunately, the rest of us were outspent and out numbered. But the bottom line is this. If we are to have any hope of restoring any semblance of the OLd Republic, where the Constitution has meaning and the American People are sovereign then it must begin with the defeat of the dimocratic party and the restoration of the Old Republic. In the words of the Unsinkable Molly Brown, we ain’t done yet.

  • Shadowfax

    I was so depressed after the last thread, I am glad to be able to watch a special on the History channel on the history of the United States, which has gotten me out of that funk.

    One story after another, inventions by some ‘little person’ that takes hold and changes our world. From many disasters, someone stepped up and figured out a way to make a difference.

    I see that what is going on today may seem like death to us, but in the big picture, it is just a very bad president that is running the country into a ditch…his time will come, sooner rather than later, and it is up to us to wake up as many kool-aid drinkers as possible, to make sure the next president in the White House is capable of putting us back in the black and giving America back to it’s citizens.

    I also think the Gulf Oil gusher is the turning point for the folks that voted for the Fraud. The disaster is something that is not out of the news in a week or two, can’t be swept under the rug, and those that saw the failures of Bush in Katrina, can’t deny the same is going on with Obama. This is Obama’s Waterloo.

  • wbboei

    Admin–you are a great American.

  • basil9

    Me too, shadowfax. In a way, I am grateful to have been so busy the last six months.

    I had a break from deadlines today and time to think and boy did I get depressed.

    I can’t beleive how far this country has fallen in just the past short eighteen months.

    wbboei, you could be 1000 % right with your analysis about the ‘poweres that be’ but I’m more and more inclined to believe it’s the ugly part of human nature to try and expand and enlarge one’s territory and wealth at everyone else’s expense. Sometimes I don’t even think it’s deliberate, or conscious. It’s the survival mode gone wild. It’s the desire for self-preservation and propogation abopve everything else. It’s the evil side of human nature. It’s just pure evil.

  • wbboei

    Happy Fourth of July to all of you.

  • holdthemaccountable

    At some point in the 5 AM hour this morning, a local ABC affiliate aired a video of Lisa P. Jackson’s photo-op allegedly at Pensacola. The beach looked lovely, save for a few dark spots. Lisa lifted one to her nose, then uttered something nearly unintelligible to me but believe she stated it had no odor which meant …… something good, I guess. There were 5 (more or less) humans standing with shovels – no doubt the guards on-the-ready to snatch the very next nasty oil ball the very moment it intended to touch the beach. A sign had been posted discouraging/prohibiting swimming(I dunno which – it is all such a tragic joke; who really cares what it said?). But some people were in the water – it looked good to them. Others said NO WAY – not going to risk it. Great journalism.
    Which brings me of my intent to remind us of the same permissiveness granted GWB for way too long. You all may not know how distraught I was that that incompetent jerk made it to the OO, but my family knew, and one year for Christmas I got two of those 16 month count-down calendars for Bush’s last term. I used the smaller one and have saved the big one. Brought it out tonight to share one of the pages, and the one which comes to mind is this:
    “You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.”
    George W. Bush, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, September 6 2006.
    Katie should have hit him with that but I don’t recall that she did.

  • basil9

    Boo hoo hoo hoo.

    Por widdle anderson discovers their is no Santy Claus, the dims are no better than and may be worse than the repubs.

    And he thought it was onky the mean ole R’s who cheated, stole, lied and
    swept stuff under the rug.

    how will he ever survive without leg tinglies and visions of obamatoe?

    (BTW, for weeks i have been blocked from hearing audio for most clips posted
    here. Anyone else having that problem?)

    Jerk.

  • wbboei

    Shadow I see a deeper problem here than one bad president. I see us evolving from a country where the people are sovereign to a multi national trading block where elites call the shots and the will of the people is discounted. We can change presidents from Bush to Obama to whoever the next errand boy is. But the people who make the puppets dance do not change. At this point, they are no longer strictly American interests, they have deep roots in both parties and they are not at all on the side of the American People. Hillary stands in opposition to these forces and is our last best hope for the future.

  • basil9

    Whoever gueessed BO would play golf today wins the prize.

    Pres. Obama back at the WH after 4 1/2 hrs of golf at Andrews AFB where it’s an unpleasant 93-degrees.
    about 3 hours ago via web
    .markknoller
    Mark Knoller

  • gonzotx

    RAY CHARLES, “AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL”


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  • basil9

    Apologies for horrendous typos!

    The laptop is merciless.

    I never thought I would be agree with as many republicans as I do today.

    “They’re snuffing out the America that I grew up in,” Boehner said. “Right now, we’ve got more Americans engaged in their government than at any time in our history. There’s a political rebellion brewing, and I don’t think we’ve seen anything like it since 1776.”

  • basil9

    oops!

    Here’s moran’s response to Boehner’s comments.

    “The irony is that each area of American life the Democrats are bending their efforts to “transform” needs reforming. There are many conservatives and Republicans who could have supported small, prudent, incremental changes in health care, on Wall Street, and in energy policy. But this has never been about fixing what’s broken for the Democrats. It has always been about gaining for government the ability to control. Whether for angelic purposes, or as a grubby political power play, the connecting thread in what the Democrats are trying to do has, as a practical effect, limited the choices of ordinary people to control their own lives. This interposition of government in what were previously private matters, by definition, is an attack on our liberties no matter how well intentioned.

    Boehner’s complaint about the Democrats is a reminder of what is at stake in the elections of 2010. The majority of us don’t want an American transformation, which should be made quite plain in November. Whether it will be enough to preserve the America we grew up in will be a continuing concern in the years to come.

  • gonzotx

    Palin is not in the hip pockets of the corporations either, hence the Repub party elite do not support her. We need both PAlin and Hillary, there are too few that don’t take the payola. We have to vote ALL of them out. Even the ones we supported in the past. They have not stood up and spoken truth to power but voted lock step for the “Party”…only when nanAdolfEichmann told them “I have enough votes, so go ahead and act if you care and vote against the bill”,did they.

    I feel Admins passion for this great Country and the worry we may have already lost it or are perilously close to it and just don’t know it, I feel it too. Hope i am not putting words into your mouth.

  • gonzotx

    A call to arms…

  • confloyd

    Admin: This is the first chance I’ve had to compliment you on your post….beautiful…brought tears to my eyes.

  • Shadowfax

    #
    wbboei
    July 4th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Shadow I see a deeper problem here than one bad president. I see us evolving from a country where the people are sovereign to a multi national trading block where elites call the shots and the will of the people is discounted. We can change presidents from Bush to Obama to whoever the next errand boy is. But the people who make the puppets dance do not change. At this point, they are no longer strictly American interests, they have deep roots in both parties and they are not at all on the side of the American People. Hillary stands in opposition to these forces and is our last best hope for the future.
    ——————
    Somehow I knew you were going to say that, and I agree that there are forces pulling Obama’s strings, yet to only look at that aspect leaves me to believe that without Hillary in the Oval Office, there is little hope for the American public to own their own country again with a few good people like Hillary in office. Simple minded, maybe, but I need to feel as though the American population can stand up against the big money that tries to rule them. Didn’t America begin to fight against the rulers in Europe? People like our forefathers stood up, and it is our job to do the same. What ever it takes.

  • turndownobama

    The Clintons are wonderful but they are getting old. We have to encourage other good people to be ready to take their places.

    We can’t do that by turning against and destroying everyone else. (Aside from the fact that it makes us look like paranoids.)

  • basil9

    The problem with the gulf is that the government has no expertise in the collection, distribution, dispatch and command of clean-up efforts of this magnitude.

    This is very different from a hurricane or a tsunami or an earthquake.

    But there are lots of people who have the equipment, the manpower, the ability and resolve to fight the spill and they’re being hamstrung by squat and his crew.

    Having covered the legislature in the small area where I live and having seen the mobilization of all rescue and emergency centers for a hundred year snowfall and seeing how successfully they pulled together, coordinating with the local energy company to clear the roads, rescue the stranded, help the elderly and get power back up, I am convinced that squat does not want to fix the problem.

    There’s just no way incompetence of this magnitude for this length of time can exist.

    More and more I am feeling this is deliberate, willful damage inflicted on the gulf for any number of reasons from geo-political to trying to use a ‘crisis’ to impose new energy legislation to wiping out a large potion of a republican voter base to retaliation against those who oppose squat.

    I swear I wouldn’t put anything past him.

    If the teeny county where I live can rally for and respond to the snowstorm of 2010 which dumped up to 8 feet of snow in the area there is no reason in he11 the federal government can’t mobilize to clean up the gulf.

    This is criminal.

  • Mrs. Smith

    HAPPY FOURTH EVERYONE!

    Admin please post this video asap-

    This vid has to be Hillary’s best and most inspirational by far-



    I dare anyone on this blog to listen and not struggle fighting back tears because we know, deep down, how right Hillary was then and how right she is now in needing to reverse all the damage done to our country over the last 10yrs. And ever thankful, she wants the job, confident she has the way forward to heal our bruised and battered country.

  • Shadowfax

    This is criminal.
    ———-
    I agree it is criminal, but if I find out the inept One is purposely doing this…………

  • Shadowfax

    Yes, before I get sidetracked……..Happy 4th of July to all.

  • confloyd

    Gonzo, I agree with you we need Palin and Hillary, they are the true reformers…you only need to listens to Obama’s network to figure out who to vote for…you vote for the ones they malign everyday…those are the real americans and patriots. If MSNBC doesn’t like them, I well vote for them.

    Just as I posted the repubs and dems have gotten together and together they can make mincemeat out of this country. When they act in unison…the checks and balances are gone.

  • Shadowfax

    [snip]

    This is the story of America. Of women and men who defy the odds and never give up.

    How do we give this country back to them?

    By following the example of a brave New Yorker , a woman who risked her life to shepherd slaves along the Underground Railroad. And on that path to freedom, Harriett Tubman had one piece of advice.

    If you hear the dogs, keep going.

    If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

    If they’re shouting after you, keep going.

    Don’t ever stop. Keep going.

    If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.

    Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton

  • basil9

    shadowfax,

    I have covered many emergency and first responders and the one trait those people share is the desire to want to help. Now. Inaction is the silent killer for them.

    Those poor guys in the gulf must be going out of their friggin minds having one barrier after another, one delay after another imposed on them by Squat and crew.

    Imagine a firefighter being told he can’t go into a burning building to rescue people.

    What’s being done to gulf residents is demonically demoralizing.

    I finally got to see the interview between Cooper and the two local officials and they are reeling from orders and rstraints imposed by the government and hindering their clean up efforts.

    WTF is going on? Whatever it is is not right. I know squat’s bloodless but even he has seemed more detached than usual about the gulf clean-up efforts. It’s almost as if he knew the sequence of events, the unfolding of the disaster in advance like during the primaries when he seemed impervious to HRC’s victories in one big state after another and remained eerily convinced he would win. Many of us commented about that at the time.

    It’s like he knew the outcome then and he knows the outcome now and just like with the (s)election, whatever it is will not be good for the country.

  • Shadowfax

    confloyd

    …you only need to listens to Obama’s network to figure out who to vote for…you vote for the ones they malign everyday…those are the real americans and patriots. If MSNBC doesn’t like them, I well vote for them.
    ———-
    Be careful with that philosophy. You should always vote for someone by their voting record and not what any media professes. Many Democrats made that mistake by listening to the MSM instead of voting for the candidate with the proved experience in their lives. Doesn’t mean that the MSM will always get it wrong, just like Anderson Cooper’s reporting on the Gulf crisis may be for his own reasons, ratings, or station, doesn’t mean that what he is reporting isn’t important and necessary.

  • basil9

    He is seriously schizophrenic!

    Just the other day he was saying being an American is a matter of faith, not of blood or birth.

    “This is the day when we celebrate the very essence of America and the spirit that has defined us as a people and as a nation for more than two centuries,” Obama told guests at a South Lawn barbecue honoring service members and their families.

    And for those with a strong stomach, check the pics of squat and scowly at breitbart. She looks like she’ preggers in a completely inappropriate red spangled halter top while he’s in a short sleeve blue shirt that looks several sizes too big and makes him resemble Alfred E Neuman.

    “We celebrate the principles that are timeless, tenets first declared by men of property and wealth but which gave rise to what Lincoln called a new birth of freedom in America—civil rights and voting rights, workers’ rights and women’s rights, and the rights of every American,” he said. “And on this day that is uniquely American we are reminded that our Declaration, our example, made us a beacon to the world.”

  • JanH

    Mrs. Smith
    July 4th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    HAPPY FOURTH EVERYONE!

    Admin please post this video asap-

    This vid has to be Hillary’s best and most inspirational by far-

    ————-

    One of my favorites. Thank you for posting. :)

  • confloyd

    Shadowfax, I agree and should have stated that both things should be taken in a decision on who to vote for…Sarah did wonderful thing for the Alaskans…she fought the “good ole boys” in the Oil Patch no less….she has testicular fortitude as our special lady has.
    If only they would become a team…fear would be making Tweeties leg tingle instead of excitement over the “great orator”.
    I was amazing to read the last part of “Game Change” last night. Whether the comments in the book were truly Hillary’s or not, everything she supposedly said about the “One” has come true. He’s an empty suit, devoid of feeling, pompuous, self rightous. He would wreck the country…everything right down to a tee. I believe that why she was teary eyed in New Hampshire because she knew what the Global elites had in store for the common man.

    I just hope we can all band together with on common idea and that is to rid D.C. of the scourge that resides in our government offices.

    I was thinking today about “taxation without representation”, it is what is happening to every man, woman and child of the middle class. We pay taxes and they do not represent us. I believe like Basil9, this Gulf crisis may catapult this nation of people to take our government back. Debra Medina, former candidate for governor of Texas has said when we have to take our country back this time it will not be without our children’s bloodshed.

    Happy 4th everyone!

  • jbstonesfan

    And for those with a strong stomach, check the pics of squat and scowly at breitbart. She looks like she’ preggers in a completely inappropriate red spangled halter top while he’s in a short sleeve blue shirt that looks several sizes too big and makes him resemble Alfred E Neuman.
    =========================================================

    LOL!!!!

  • confloyd

    Mrs. Smith, Thanks for posting that video of Hillary, I was watching it this afternoon…she is so inspiring. I don’t think for minute she has ever left us…she is working the only way she knows how right now and if there is a way, she will right the wrong done to us by the latest series of usurpers in the WH. Neither were elected, both were selected!

  • gonzotx

    Fox has had on a “Whats so good about America” program and it’s great

  • turndownobama

    Shadowfax said:
    Anderson Cooper’s reporting on the Gulf crisis may be for his own reasons, ratings, or station, doesn’t mean that what he is reporting isn’t important and necessary.

    ======================

    Yes. No human is 100% right or 100% wrong in all their actions all the time. We need to look at each action separately and support those actions that can have good effects, criticize those actions that can have bad effects.

  • Shadowfax

    turndown

    ……..Yes. No human is 100% right or 100% wrong in all their actions all the time. We need to look at each action separately and support those actions that can have good effects, criticize those actions that can have bad effects.
    ——–
    I totally agree.

  • Southern Born

    Mrs. Smith, thank you for posting the “Let Your Heart Decide” video of Hillary. That’s a wonderful 4th of July gift to us.

    And you are right, how could any of us watch it without tears streaming down our faces.

    Oh, what could have been. And hopefully, what will be!

  • wbboei

    One of those who signed the Great Declaration has also made a challenge across the ages. “A republic, if you can keep it.” That challenge grows every day. That challenge was answered by previous generations. But that challenge on this July 4th, remains unanswered by the current generation – a republic – if we can keep it.
    ————————————-
    That is brilliant Admn. I think it was Franklin. “A republic sir, if you can keep it”. That is the challenge before us. And bought and sold ig media is on the wrong side of the line.

  • confloyd

    This just makes me sick…read it, especially the last two paragraphs…its tells you what BP did to save money. Obama is not doing anything about this..its like he is happy that it is done.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100704/ts_nm/us_bp_new_investors

  • wbboei

    Shadow I see a deeper problem here than one bad president. I see us evolving from a country where the people are sovereign to a multi national trading block where elites call the shots and the will of the people is discounted. We can change presidents from Bush to Obama to whoever the next errand boy is. But the people who make the puppets dance do not change. At this point, they are no longer strictly American interests, they have deep roots in both parties and they are not at all on the side of the American People. Hillary stands in opposition to these forces and is our last best hope for the future.
    ——————
    Somehow I knew you were going to say that, and I agree that there are forces pulling Obama’s strings, yet to only look at that aspect leaves me to believe that without Hillary in the Oval Office, there is little hope for the American public to own their own country again with a few good people like Hillary in office. Simple minded, maybe, but I need to feel as though the American population can stand up against the big money that tries to rule them. Didn’t America begin to fight against the rulers in Europe? People like our forefathers stood up, and it is our job to do the same. What ever it takes.
    ——
    Shadow here is what we are up against: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

  • Shadowfax

    Fat Allen still hasn’t given the green light to TEST the Wale.
    A new retrofitted, huge tanker made to skim oil from water.

    I hope to God this helps, and Fatty finally puts his ass in third gear and at least lets it be tested.

    Aholes.

    New Orleans, Louisiana (CNN) — Initial results from test runs of a ship billed as the world’s largest oil skimming vessel could come back Monday after a weekend spent plowing the seas atop the undersea gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Cool video of it.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/04/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html?hpt=T1

  • Shadowfax

    the Whale

  • Shadowfax

    BTW, I know Allen’s first real name. ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    Shadow here is what we are up against: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

    That’s why God made American’s with big mouths, intelligence and pitchforks.

  • confloyd

    WTH, I thought they dispatched that ship yesterday??? What is the hold up…enviromental impact, WTF, it can’t be as bad as the oil right now loose in the Gulf of Mexico…RETARDS the bunch of them.

    Its got to be an inside job…they want this oil in the Gulf so that can get their damn carbon tax. Both sides are in on this…I don’t believe a thing Boerhner has to say.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Thanks, confloyd, Southern Born and Jan-

    I don’t know if that is a retooling of an old video but with the Celine Dion vocals in the background, it really sets an uplifting, inspirational tone to Hillary’s message that resonates like the snap heard from a whip whirling through the air.

  • confloyd

    Wbboei, I read that link…its sick…those bastards…exactly what I’ve been saying all along…just didn’t know how to say it. Controlled democracy…this is why they don’t like the Tea parties…well more and more folks are joining up.

  • wbboei

    That’s why God made American’s with big mouths, intelligence and pitchforks.
    ————————————–
    It is also why the tea party movement is important. It is a grass roots revolt against the kind of inverted totalitarianism and managed democracy we see with Mr. Obama. The more we can get people to understand the forces at work and their motivations the better chance we have of defeating those forces. If we had an honest media in this country they would be doing the heavy lifting for us. But these people are in the bag for Obama and the people who own him control big media. So they put a pellet in the chamber and gloria borger, howard fineman or johnathan alter all fight for it. Lawyers have a saying never defend an indefensible position but these people do it every day, if they cannot change the subject. The public needs to move away from these kind of people en masse. They would never have made it in the days of Murrow and Sarnoff. They belong in soap operas.

  • confloyd

    Shadowfax…Those holes in the side of the ship are big enough to catch turtles and stuff in them…well BP is burning them…and poisoning them…so they are going to die anyway I guess.

    Have you ever seen the Wrigley turtles…next week while I’m in Corpus I can take part in the yearly event of releasing them….wonder if they should do it this year???

    You know they are trying to tell us by getting more green technology and passing the law for the sale of carbon credits it will help the enviroment…Its the biggest lie evah…yes it might help the enviroment, but the main purpose of it for them is the make more, more and more money for themselves. These folks don’t care about the enviroment…where’s Al Gore…why isn’t he down here in Louisiana raising hell about the oil well??? Where is Michael farking Moore??? Where is Susan Farking Sarandon??? Where are those jerks?
    Donna Brazoid is from Louisiana…where is her fat butt?

  • confloyd

    jbstonesfan…I did go look at that pic…MO does look pregnant. If there was a barbecue at the WH, was BO there, I heard he did 4.5 hours of golf today?

  • wbboei

    Wbboei, I read that link…its sick…those bastards…exactly what I’ve been saying all along…just didn’t know how to say it. Controlled democracy…this is why they don’t like the Tea parties…well more and more folks are joining up
    —————————
    This guy who coined this term is Professor Wollin. He is a well respected scholar and professor at Yale. The guy who put me on to him was Chris Hedges in one of his columns at Common Dreams. If you read Professor Andrew Bacevich at Boston University you get shades of this as well. The book that explains this transition nicely is American Empire. We cannot fight this enemy effectively unless we understand him. And if you read some of the early work of Professor Lester Thurow at MIT you understand why the western powers are anxious to build trading blocks to counter the influence of China, and to erase borders which represent an impediment to the free flow of goods and people. But who in their right mind would want to live in that kind of a world. The ambiguity of Obamas birth, and his reluctance to embrace the symbols of this nation are suddenly more understandable–and troubling.

  • wbboei

    Where is Susan Farking Sarandon???
    ———————————-
    She needs to take a long walk into the bayou until her hat floats or the alligators get hungry. On second though, no alligator I know is that undiscriminating.

  • Southern Born

    jbstonesfan, Confloyd, I, too, looked at the picture of ME-chelle today in her bare back halter maternity looking top. Then I thought about classy first ladies like Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan and I wondered what kind of message MO and BO send to other countries with their choices.

    Remember back during the campaign when some in the media said that when others in the world looked at BO, they’d identify with the USA and want to be our best friends…or some such.

    Wonder what the Taliban and Muslims think of our first lady and her clothing? Do you suppose they are checking on how to order that MO outfit for their wives even as we speak?

  • confloyd

    wbboei,
    And if you read some of the early work of Professor Lester Thurow at MIT you understand why the western powers are anxious to build trading blocks to counter the influence of China, and to erase borders which represent an impediment to the free flow of goods and people.
    ————————————
    I have been speaking with a Dr. friend and he is from a tiny little country called Eritrea, it is between the Sudan and Ethiopia. He and I have struck up a friendship discussing global politics and its really interesting to get the perspective of someone who grew up in Africa. He is very afraid of China’s advancement in his country…its very apparent he does not like China…I think this is why Hillary has done such a wonderful job of realigning our foreign policy with these countries because with her diplomacy they are less afraid of us than they are the Chinese which is a plus for us. We had been discussing the exploitation of his country by these huge international companies. It is not like it used to be…the peasants of these countries a waking up and realizing what the elites are doing by striping them of their natural resources for their own personal gain and then leaving their countries in a huge mess. People seem to love, respect and trust Hillary throughout the world, yet some folks here in this country still believe she’s a cold blooded killer…I know a Doctor that believes with his whole heart that she is…disgusting. This Dr. loves the Danish.

  • confloyd

    The Dr. that likes the Danish people is the Dr. from Eritrea, not the one who does not Hillary Clinton.
    ————————————

    Yes its makes you wonder what the Taliban think of MO clothes…some probably think Barack ought to beat her within an inch of her life…the rest of them think he should be beheaded her. Wonderful folks these Taliban…Someone last week on the morning talk shows one of the lady commentators said we should get out of Afganistan and airlift anyone with a vagina out of the country…good idea.

  • turndownobama

    You know they are trying to tell us by getting more green technology and passing the law for the sale of carbon credits it will help the enviroment… [....] yes it might help the enviroment, but the main purpose of it for them is the make more, more and more money for themselves. These folks don’t care about the enviroment

    =====================

    Right, they don’t care. So if they can’t make their money with green causes, they’ll make it some other way. They’ll sell their green energy stock and buy oil stock again, or nuclear.

    Is that what you want?

    Even if only a small percent goes to actual green technology, that’s better than them putting their money back in oil and trying to kill the green.

  • Shadowfax

    wbboei

    That’s why God made American’s with big mouths, intelligence and pitchforks.
    ————————————–
    It is also why the tea party movement is important. It is a grass roots revolt against the kind of inverted totalitarianism and managed democracy we see with Mr. Obama.

    —-
    Don’t forget the PUMA movement, they have been around longer than the tea party movement and they are still around. Some of those Hillary supporters don’t blog, but behind the scenes, they are still there.

    Also the media and it’s dirty tricks, all the MSM and newspapers like the NYTimes are seeing a dive in readership and watching. More Dems are watching Fox than ever before. Many Hillary supporters have gone from Dems to Independents, not a shift to the Republican party, but in the middle where they can watch both sides.

    The Republican’s are no better than the Obamafollowers and the voter anger is unhappiness with politicians that are not supporting the will of the people.

  • Shadowfax

    confloyd
    July 4th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Shadowfax…Those holes in the side of the ship are big enough to catch turtles and stuff in them…well BP is burning them…and poisoning them…so they are going to die anyway I guess.

    Have you ever seen the Wrigley turtles…

    ———–
    The slots in the side of the Whale have spokes, not sure of how big the holes are in reality though. I hope it works, the more oil that is extracted out of the Gulf, the less toxic the water will be. Honestly, the Gulf life is doomed for years, but it has to be stopped and cleaned as soon as possible, or it will kill life in the Atlantic.
    I wish that BP and all the rigs in deep water would go to Hell.
    When folks that live down there say they need to drill for the jobs, I bet the people that lived in Chernobyl used to say the same thing…now look at it. All the folks that got cancer and died.

    http://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=chernobyl_2010&image=chernobyl_pe_06_lrg

    I don’t know much about the turtles, but I hope, somehow they survive.

  • Shadowfax

    Southern Born
    July 5th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    jbstonesfan, Confloyd, I, too, looked at the picture of ME-chelle today in her bare back halter maternity looking top.

    ———–
    I usually don’t talk about women and what they should wear as First Ladies, but MO, I will make an exception cause of my lack of fondness towards her.
    Buy her a nice burqua.

    http://teaandpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/burqa.jpg

  • confloyd

    turndown, I don’t know but Im sick of the money mongers…I sick of their exploitation. Of coarse I want the planet saved, but will it? I doubt it. They will spend a billion to study something for 4 to 8 years and 5 people will get jobs and then we will never hear a thing about it again.
    They had technology in the 60′s that would have made cars get 80 to 100 miles to the gallons. The oil companies bought the patents and we never heard about it again…just think how much cleaner an enviroment would be now if they’d used that patent then.
    I’m just mad about the oil spill, no jobs, social security, health care…a million things that they are getting rich on…enough is enough!

  • SHV

    You know they are trying to tell us by getting more green technology and passing the law for the sale of carbon credits it will help the enviroment…
    *********
    Or as Obama says let the “private markets” regulate the carbon economy. Carbon credits will take the place of the derivative, credit default swap, etc. markets that were based on the real estate bubble. The big winners, Chicago Climate exchange, GE, Goldman Sachs, et al.

    One of the “dirty little secrets” about “Green Energy” is the dependence on various Rare Earth Elements, mostly to make the electrical magnets efficient. A wind turbine would be too heavy to sit on a pole if the magnets didn’t contain a lot of Rare Earth Elements, same with electric car motors, etc. Who supplies the world with the Rare Earth elements??? China to the tune of 95%.

    For comparison, everyone is concerned with our “dependence” on petroleum products imported from the Middle East. Of the top 5 countries sending petroleum to the US, Saudia Arabia is #3, supplying ~17%. Of the top 15 countries..3 are Mid-East (Saudi, Iraq, Kuwait) and their total percentage of the 15 is again 17%.

    Follow the money…

  • Shadowfax

    I haven’t checked my home email in a couple of days, and guess what?
    I had emails from some of our favorites:
    Barry the Fraud Obama
    Donna Brazillenut
    Barbara Boxer
    MoveOnDotBullshit

    All, begging for money, no matter how many times I write back telling them, “Bite me!”

  • SHV

    The slots in the side of the Whale have spokes, not sure of how big the holes are in reality though.
    ********
    It will be interesting to here what the results of the testing are but with the pattern of cover up and dishonesty so far, can anything that they say be believed? I can’t find any reported number of the amount of oil that has been skimmed. “Oily water” skimmed has been reported but what does that mean.

    I am beginning to think that “skimmmers” is just another distraction. BP can say “see we are doing something”…critics can say Jones Act..blah..blah..and any foreign business man with anything that works like a “skimmer” is trying to cash in on the financial gravy-train.

    My impression as of now is that skimmers really don’t do much in a “open ocean” spill such as that in the Gulf. By early reports, the “Whale” skimmer, skims a path about 200 feet wide and can skim about a square mile of Ocean surface an day. The last number that I saw was that the oil slick covered about 27,000 square miles. I think a lot of the “lack of skimmers” hysteria is a combination of politics and business people trying to cash in on the tragedy. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.

  • wbboei

    THE PROPER RESPONSE TO MR. OBAMA AND THOSE HE REPRESENTS

    “experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”– Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence

    The Obamacrats disenfranchised the American People in 2008 through 2000 cases of voter fraud and intimidation at the caucuses and through the kangaroo court decision of the Rules and By-laws Committee which invalidated the votes of 600,000 people in the state of Michigan. They have grand designs of doing the same thing again through the Soros funded secretary of state project and through the voting machines. If they try to do that again they need to know they are playing with fire.

  • confloyd

    SHV, It might of helped if Obama hadn’t waited a whole month before deciding to do something and get some skimmers down there. I spoke to a lady from Denmark recently, apparently they had a big oil spill a few years back, she said her government cleaned it up in no time at all, of coarse they have really good oil spill equipment which they would send down here, but Obama is sitting on this hands.

    If what you say is true, then obama just needs to tells us the real story…because its much worse for us to think he not doing anything than to know there’s nothing that can be done.

    27,000 square miles…WOW! Thats alot of dead dolphins and fish.

  • confloyd

    they need to know they better have the army ready to come in and fight its own citizens…the amount of unrest and irritation with our government is growing rapidly.

  • confloyd

    shadowfax,
    I wish that BP and all the rigs in deep water would go to Hell.
    When folks that live down there say they need to drill for the jobs, I bet the people that lived in Chernobyl used to say the same thing…now look at it. All the folks that got cancer and died.
    ———————————

    I read today that in Britain, they would have NEVA allowed the kind of casing that BP used here in the gulf. In Britain, they are required to use double-walled casing…its not a requirement for the U.S., so they did not use it even though they were drilling deeper than ever before. I wonder if the other casings in the relief wells are double walled. I doubt we could ever find out because the press is bought and paid for.

  • wbboei

    Actually, that is not a bad turn of a phrase–Obamacrats. It is after all a party that worships the ground he walks on. This term differentiates these people from democrats or republicans.

    I wonder what Jim Webb would say if someone called him an Obamacrat? I had the highest hopes for him when he took office. But he voted for Obamacare along with the rest of them. That bill stripped half a trillion out of Medicaid. You have to love Obama an awful lot to do that to the senior population.

  • SHV

    If what you say is true, then obama just needs to tells us the real story…because its much worse for us to think he not doing anything than to know there’s nothing that can be done.
    *******
    Obama is incapable of telling the truth but most of the time he just reads the lies that are written for him. Covering up with BP doesn’t make a lot of sense because the Obama handlers have no problem throwing people and businesses under the bus. The only thing that I can think of was that it was just a few weeks prior to the well blow out that Obama lifted the drilling ban and said drilling was safe. I think that the WH hoped that if they minimized the spill and BP could shut it off within a month that Obama wouldn’t look like a complete fool. so now they are on the same game plan to control the news and manage the message but it’s ain’t working.

    The bottom line for Obama is that Ken Salazar was appointed Sec. of Interior. The whole oil bidness and MMS has been corrupt for decades and got a lot worse with Bush/Cheney. Big oil supporters Obama and Salazar weren’t going to change it. If they has appointed a person who told MMS to follow the law and the rules, the well blow out wouldn’t have happened. Reading blog post by people in the “oil business” the whole MMS and safety regulation and inspection was a joke. When BP made last minute very risky changes to the well design to save money, it was approved within less than a day by MMS.

  • Shadowfax

    confloyd
    I think BP skimmed and broke as many safety rules as they could to save time and money, because they thought they could get away with it.
    After all, it isn’t their backyard that is now distroyed, it is only money to them, bottom line and not consequences of the way of life in the Gulf for the people and animals/fish.
    I hate BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SHV

    I read today that in Britain, they would have NEVA allowed the kind of casing that BP used here in the gulf
    ********
    That issue is just the tip of the iceberg of corner cutting. I think that the straw that “broke the camels back” and exposed all of the other short cuts was trying to save a few extra dollars by replacing the drilling mud in the pipe with sea water. Unlike the “mud” which was heavy enough to hold back the well pressure, sea water wasn’t and it just blew the water out of the pipe, followed by oil and natural gas….booooooom.

  • confloyd

    This is a pretty interesting story of how the democrats lost Texas in 1976. It almost fits today screw ups with Obama.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7094018.html

  • confloyd

    Wbboei, What is it that they all love about Obama, it has to be money. Obama is very well connected to all corporate money and I guess they are willing to throw little old ladies out in the street to help him. I would have never thought a democrat would ever stoop so low.

    I will always remember Hillary saying at the convention “we’re democrats”, well she is, but she’s the only one in his administration that is.

    I leave Tuesday for the coast and I’m taking a shovel. I want to dig down in that sand a little and see what I get. If I find anything I’ll send you guys some pics.

  • Shadowfax

    confloyd

    I leave Tuesday for the coast and I’m taking a shovel.

    Wear rubber gloves and be aware if there is a smell in the air, not to stay long and breath it in.

  • confloyd

    Well they are doing this, but its 2 months late.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/deepwaterhorizonresponse/4762215309/

  • turndownobama

    SHV said:
    By early reports, the “Whale” skimmer, skims a path about 200 feet wide and can skim about a square mile of Ocean surface an day. The last number that I saw was that the oil slick covered about 27,000 square miles. I think a lot of the “lack of skimmers” hysteria is a combination of politics and business people trying to cash in on the tragedy.

    ======================

    If that’s correct, then we’d need thousands of skimmers, which we lack.

  • turndownobama

    SHV,

    I agree that Obama’s ‘carbon credits’ are nonsense for speculators.

    However, when you say,
    One of the “dirty little secrets” about “Green Energy” is the dependence on various Rare Earth Elements, mostly to make the electrical magnets efficient. A wind turbine would be too heavy to sit on a pole if the magnets didn’t contain a lot of Rare Earth Elements, same with electric car motors, etc.

    [sarcasm mode on]
    So how fast are these Rare Earth Elements used up, and how much damage do they cause when spilled?
    /sarcasm

  • turndownobama

    They had technology in the 60’s that would have made cars get 80 to 100 miles to the gallons. The oil companies bought the patents and we never heard about it again…just think how much cleaner an enviroment would be now if they’d used that patent then.

    =================

    Something like that. So, the technology exists. We just need to get the oil companies out of the way. Let the fat cats make some money off ‘green’ investments, just so we get the clean cars back on the road!

  • admin

    He just doesn’t care if people know he doesn’t care:

    http://twitter.com/markknoller/status/17744462387

    Pres. Obama back at the WH after 4 1/2 hrs of golf at Andrews AFB where it’s an unpleasant 93-degrees.

  • Mormaer

    “He just doesn’t care if people know he doesn’t care:”. Yes and his mental illness is getting worse not better. Maybe it is a Dissociative disorder. But the press starting to whine about not getting any information is infuriating as they did not want any information when this Chicago criminal was running. Now they want information and cannot get it. They cannot have it both ways the WH is implying. They pledged Obama Omerta so they have to go down with him. I watched the News Hour and gave to PBS for thirty years. Now it is blocked on my TV and I hang up on their fund raising calls and shred the begging letters. The press are slowly turning on him partly from economic necessity and partly from facts hitting them in the head. The elections in November will complete the cycle as this group of ass kissers will not want to be stuck with a loser.

  • holdthemaccountable

    basil9 @ 9:19 pm: WTF is going on? Whatever it is is not right. I know squat’s bloodless but even he has seemed more detached than usual about the gulf clean-up efforts.
    ——————–
    I watched something on TV a number of weeks ago & tried to put it out of my mind. The segment claimed that oil-covered animals absorb much more heat from the sun than they would in their normal situation. I wonder if that is true of the Gulf waters as well. If so, the flooding of oil would make water temperatures rise astronomically. If so, this would make a great case for suddenly-increased global warming and the imminent need for his energy dream.

    PS: Mormaer re PBS. Me too.

  • jbstonesfan

    Webb turned out to be a major disappointment.

  • moononpluto

    Seems that Health Care reform is back front and centre in peoples minds. This is going to hurt big in Nov.

    Sixty percent (60%) of voters nationwide favor repeal of the recently passed health care law, including 49% who Strongly Favor repeal.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 36% oppose repeal. That figure includes 24% who are Strongly Opposed.

    Forty-three percent (43%) believe repeal would be good for the nation’s economy. Twenty-seven percent (27%) believe repeal would be bad for the economy, while 20% say it would have no impact. Political Class voters strongly believe repeal would be bad for the economy, while most Mainstream Americans think repeal would help the economy.

    Despite the ongoing support for repeal, just 41% believe the law is even somewhat likely to be repealed. Forty-five percent (45%) say repeal is unlikely. In April, however, 51% considered repeal unlikely.

    The current figures show 13% consider repeal Very Likely, while 10% say it is Not at all Likely. In April, those figures were 11% and 18% respectively.

    Eighty-one percent (81%) of Republicans and 65% of voters not affiliated with either major party favor repeal; 56% of Democrats oppose it. Part of the doubt about the likelihood of repeal may come from the fact that Democrats could still control Congress after November. Part of it also may come from skepticism that Republicans would be any different. Recent polling showed that just 42% think there would be a noticeable change if Republicans win control of Congress. Republican voters overwhelmingly believe that their party’s representatives in Washington are out of touch with the party base. Just 21% believe that Republican officeholders have done a good job representing Republican values

  • TheRealist

    Et Tu’ Fareed?…lol

    Most of the business leaders I spoke to had voted for Barack Obama. They still admire him. Those who had met him thought he was unusually smart. But all think he is,
    AT HIS CORE, ANTI-BUSINESS.

    When I asked for specifics, they pointed to the fact that Obama has no business executives in his Cabinet, that he rarely consults with CEOs (except for photo ops), that he has almost no private-sector experience, that he’s made clear he thinks government and nonprofit work are superior to the private sector. It all added up to a profound sense of distrust.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/04/AR2010070403856.html

  • SHV

    [sarcasm mode on]
    So how fast are these Rare Earth Elements used up, and how much damage do they cause when spilled?
    /sarcasm
    *********
    I agree with the message of your “snark”…my point is that “green energy” or more nuclear, etc. looks good as a headline “More wind energy”, create jobs, etc. until those new jobs are in China because they control the technology.

  • JanH

    U.S. Secretary Hillary Clinton paid tribute to the victims of Armenian Genocide (July 05, 2010)



  • JanH

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at a meeting in Cafesjian Museum of Art



  • JanH

    Clinton Pledges U.S. Support For Georgia

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a robust show of support for Georgia today by vowing to uphold its “territorial integrity” and voicing opposition to its inclusion in a Russian “sphere of influence.”

    The blunt message, delivered at a joint news conference with the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, appeared to be designed as a warning to Moscow in the wake of Russia’s August 2008 invasion of its Caucasian neighbor. “The United States is steadfast in its commitment to Georgia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States does not recognize spheres of influence,” she said, referring to Russia’s claim that it has privileged interests and special influence in former Soviet states like Georgia.

    Her comments came during a visit to Georgia, the last leg of a five-country visit to Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. Describing her words as a message from President Barack Obama and herself, Clinton said she had expressed similar sentiments to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev during his trip to Washington last month.

    Clinton also called on Russia to meet the commitments it made in a cease-fire agreement following the invasion — including withdrawing its troops to the positions they held before the attack. Russia should permit humanitarian access to the portions of Georgia its troops still occupy, the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and refrain from building more permanent military bases there, she said.

    ‘Democracy Agenda’

    She had earlier told a group of Georgian women leaders that the United States opposed Russia’s ongoing “occupation” and called for diplomatic efforts aimed at ending it to be stepped up.

    “We continue to speak out, as I have, on this trip against continuing occupation and we support the use of the Geneva mechanism,” Clinton said, “but it needs to be revived, and it needs to be intensified, and we intend to try to do that. I am not going to stand here and tell you that this is an easy problem, because it is not.”

    The Obama administration is trying to strike a balance between pressing the Russians to withdraw their forces from South Ossetia and Abkhazia and convincing the Georgian government that building up its military is not the right solution.

    At a question-and-answer session, Clinton also insisted the administration had a “democracy agenda” for Georgia in response to a questioner who said the country suffered from human rights abuses that had been ignored by President George W Bush.

    “The potential of this country to serve as a beacon and model for democracy and progress is extraordinary, and for me, it is in large measure is rooted in day-to-day changes that have occurred here in Georgia,” Clinton said.

    Armenia’s Genocide Memorial

    Earlier, on a visit to Armenia’s capital, Yerevan, Clinton laid a wreath at the Genocide Memorial built in homage to up to 1.5 million ethnic Armenians massacred by Ottoman Turkish forces during World War I. However, she was criticized for failing to publicly utter the word “genocide” by the Armenian National Committee of America, a Washington-based lobbying group, which decried her visit as “a missed opportunity.”

    Both Clinton and Obama pledged to recognize the Armenian killings as genocide during their 2008 presidential campaigns, but have not done so.

    Calling For Karabakh Settlement

    Visiting both Azerbaijan and Armenia on July 4, Clinton urged the two countries to end a long-running dispute over the region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Speaking at a press conference in Yerevan, she said the United States was ready to help achieve a lasting peace settlement. “It is in the interests, first and foremost, of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh — but certainly of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the greater region — to work as hard as we can together to come up with an acceptable, lasting settlement of this conflict,” Clinton said.

    Armenia and Azerbaijan have been in dispute over the territory since a 1994 cease-fire ended a three-year war that claimed thousands of lives. Clinton also called on Turkey to move forward on stalled efforts to normalize ties with Armenia and on opening the two countries’ border.

    Media Concerns

    In Yerevan, Clinton said she has raised U.S. concerns about a recently enacted Armenian media law and was told the government might consider changing it in the fall. Clinton said she was given the assurances in a meeting with President Serzh Sarkisian on July 4. She was speaking during a meeting with civil society activists today. The law passed by parliament last month regulates the introduction of digital television and radio in Armenia.

    Opponents at home and media experts of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe have warned it could curb pluralism on radio and television.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/Clinton_Heads_To_Georgia/2091014.html

  • wbboei

    Realist: an interesting article, made even more interesting for the question he fails to ask. I have three reactions:

    First, it is hardly surprising that Fareed would say that the business leaders he meet met Obama and voted for him. They live in Washington, they do business in Washington, they cannot be sure when they will be quoted, they are part of his demographic so my question to Fareed is what do you expect them to say, and my follow up question would be you meed to widen your horizons, get out the the center of the country and ask the same question. The answer will be diffeent.

    Second, he goes on to say that inspite of their love for Obama he is anti business. That characterization is over broad. If the question is whether he is anti small business, and private enterprise–meaning competition then that is true. He will tax and regulate them to death unless they are minority controlled. And that is unfortunate because they are the job engine of our country. But if you broaden the category to multi national business, and state capitalism–meaning a monopoly then it is decidedly false. He is owned by them and controlled by them and any pretensions to the contrary are false. (Note: yes he quotes that scumbag Jeffrey Imelt of General Electric who connived to put him in there. What Fareed does not tell you is that this waste of protoplasm is one of 10 members of his counsel of economic advisors along with the president of Catepillar et al. which negates the premise that GE at least is being frozen out).

    Third, having got all that wrong, Fareed fails to ask the logical question which this implies:

    1. If the business leaders he spoke to voted for Obama, and-

    2. If they have come to find out that he is anti-business, then-

    3. Would they vote for Obama in 2012 against a generic Republican candidate.

    (And pray tell why did you fail to ask that question. For me it is the dog that did not bark which is of course a venerable Arab expression which Fareed is familiar with I am sure.)

  • wbboei

    I had lunch with one of those business leaders myself roughly a year ago. He was a republican and he was active in the ill fated McCain campaign. I do not know if he was bullshitting me because I am a Hillary supporter or what but he told me that that like many other businessmen he felt some trepidation when the new administration took office that they would be anti big business. But thereafter he visited the White House and was favorably impressed with the gold dust twins–Axelrod and Emanuel. They seemed pro business, and had an excellent handle on congress and he could do business with them, etc. I gather that he did not meet Obama but I suppose he would have been favorably impressed with him as well. Interestingly several months later he publicly condemned Obama for failure to protect the country from the terrorist attack by the Detroit bomber. Evidently, he did not buy the argument of Obama and his big media cronies that he could protect the country just fine from the back of a golf cart on a golf course in Hawaii/

  • wbboei

    Clinton Pledges U.S. Support For Georgia

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a robust show of support for Georgia today by vowing to uphold its “territorial integrity” and voicing opposition to its inclusion in a Russian “sphere of influence.”
    ————————
    Mrs. Smith: you know the real story here and who was behind the Rose Revolution which deposed Sheveradze. I think the sting pullers are at work. I do not see how a policy of confrontation here benefits the American People. Perhaps I am missing something. . . .

  • wbboei

    “He just doesn’t care if people know he doesn’t care:”. Yes and his mental illness is getting worse not better. Maybe it is a Dissociative disorder. But the press starting to whine about not getting any information is infuriating as they did not want any information when this Chicago criminal was running. Now they want information and cannot get it. They cannot have it both ways the WH is implying. They pledged Obama Omerta so they have to go down with him. I watched the News Hour and gave to PBS for thirty years. Now it is blocked on my TV and I hang up on their fund raising calls and shred the begging letters. The press are slowly turning on him partly from economic necessity and partly from facts hitting them in the head. The elections in November will complete the cycle as this group of ass kissers will not want to be stuck with a lose
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Brilliant analysis. Where the press and big business are concerned the final line of a song by the Kingston Trio says it all. After the narrator admits he killed a deputy sheriff, and after the jury gives him (in this case us) 99 years on the hard rock pile for doing it, he says far too late “this has sure been a lesson to me”.

  • wbboei

    Jbstonesfan: the diffence between now and 1932 is that today we have Obama whereas all we had then was Roosevelt, who probably did not finish as high on the Sienna College survey of scholars than Obama did. Roosevelt said we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Obama said, sit on your ass, light up a camel, I am the Messiah, and this is the promised land if you know how to speak Chinese. They will pay for to carve his cherished image on the side of Mount Rushmore, with the inscription to read the man who sold America to China. I have it on reliable authority that he has an executive order on his desk which would permit massive Chinese immigration to this country, and they would provide the massive cash infusion necessary to keep him in office. No I have not seen that order myself but as I say I have it on good authority. The core idea would be they would be allowed to emigrate here without restriction, to buy homes and thereby prop up a sagging real estate market and they would work over the internet so they would not take US jobs. I have this only on hearsay, but I believe it to be true. Whether he signs that executive order or not remains to be seen. If he does it should be grounds for impeachment if we have a republican majority. Otherwise the Obamacrats and slavish press will protect him. I am not buying the argument that mainstream media is really turning against him. There is a difference between occasional hissy fits and a consensus to take him down. The latter is beyond the capabilities of these whores who are in some ways responsible for whatever lies ahead and we need to remember who they are.

  • mp

    As reported in Friday’s Wall Street Journal, Cuba will begin deepwater drilling early next year. The first well to be drilled will be done by Repsol YPF a scant sixty miles south of Key West. Repsol (REP) will use a floating drill rig presently being repaired in a Chinese shipyard which is almost identical to the Deepwater Horizon unit of BP (BP) fame, with the addition of five blowout devices instead of the four on Deepwater Horizon. Almost all parts and components of the rig, reports the WSJ, are from non-US companies. Thanks to a 1977 treaty between Jimmy Carter and Fidel, the Straits of Florida were divided equally between Cuba and the United States, which gives Cuba the right to drill so close to the U.S. land boundary.

    Inspires hope and confidence, doesn’t it? And there are many more oil projects off the Cuban coast from Havana to the Yucatan Channel to follow. Repsol’s partners in Cuba include Statoil ASA (STO) and India’s state-run Oil and Natural Gas. Eight other oil companies hold fossil fuel leases from the Castro Brothers, including Petrobas (PBR) and Sherrit International (SHERF.PK).

    It appears as though anything that President Obama does to curtail drilling for fossil fuels in the Gulf of Mexico fails to stop other countries from exploiting the billions of dollars in fossil fuel energy stored beneath the waves. We lose. Cuba, Mexico, Venezuela and other Caribbean countries win.

    Investors should monitor this series of events, as well as Cuba’s efforts to extract fossil fuels and minerals on land, via companies such as Freeport-McMoran (FCX).

    By most measures, Cuba itself is an awful place to do business. Cuba, for the companies named above, is a small part of their overall operation. The takeway is that the United States can remove U.S. Gulf of Mexico oil production through regulation, Florida Governor and Senate hopeful Charlie Crist can propose an amendment to the Florida constitution to forever ban drilling off the Florida coast and we can spend our way to alternative energy oblivion while right under the nose of the most powerful nation on earth, deep water drilling en masse will commence with the lion’s share of profits going to our adversaries.

    ———–

  • turndownobama

    SHV
    July 5th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    [sarcasm mode on]
    So how fast are these Rare Earth Elements used up, and how much damage do they cause when spilled?
    /sarcasm
    *********
    I agree with the message of your “snark”…my point is that “green energy” or more nuclear, etc. looks good as a headline “More wind energy”, create jobs, etc. until those new jobs are in China because they control the technology.

    ========================

    I don’t care where the new jobs are as long as the oil stays out of the water and the air.

    SEriously, are you saying that these Rare Earth Elements occur ONLY in China, cannot be found in our own territory (or would require destructive mining)? And cannot be synthesized, or improved technology developed to get around this bottleneck? Stronger windmill towers, for one thing. This sounds like a problem (if it is a problem) solveable by more research.

    And would China insist on building the windmills instead of selling us the REE?

    [ begin getting more snark out of my system mode ]
    Now let’s see if I’ve got this straight. The International Soros Conspiracy wants to unite us with Europe AGAINST China (the New Yellow Peril) by imposing the Metric System and Esperanto. But at the same time the International Soros Conspiracy wants to develop green energy to make us dependent on REE from China.
    [ end ]

    No offense, and I’m very glad you brought this up here where we can hash out all sides of it. ;-)

  • jbstonesfan

    100% correct Wbboei.

  • turndownobama

    mp
    July 5th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    As reported in Friday’s Wall Street Journal, Cuba will begin deepwater drilling early next year. The first well to be drilled will be done by Repsol YPF a scant sixty miles south of Key West. Repsol (REP) will use a floating drill rig presently being repaired in a Chinese shipyard which is almost identical to the Deepwater Horizon unit of BP (BP) fame, with the addition of five blowout devices instead of the four on Deepwater Horizon. Almost all parts and components of the rig, reports the WSJ, are from non-US companies. Thanks to a 1977 treaty between Jimmy Carter and Fidel, the Straits of Florida were divided equally between Cuba and the United States, which gives Cuba the right to drill so close to the U.S. land boundary.

    ==========================

    Now that is serious, no snark. We’d better be working on ways to skim off their spills (and re-use the oil so we don’t have to buy it from them).

    Or, here’s a reason to support the International One World Green Conspiracy; only a One World Government can make regulations to override Carter’s 1977 treaty and whatever other international law allows polluting the One World Ocean(which, unfortunately, is the only ocean the planet has got).

  • wbboei

    Thanks to a 1977 treaty between Jimmy Carter and Fidel, the Straits of Florida were divided equally between Cuba and the United States, which gives Cuba the right to drill so close to the U.S. land boundary.
    ————————–
    It is too bad impeachment proceedings cannot be commenced against a former president retroactive to 1976, thereby invalidating his signature on that treaty.

  • wbboei

    THE OBAMA STORY SET TO MUSIC
    (by the late Sam Cook, y-tube video to follow)

    Don’t know much about history
    Don’t know much economy
    Don’t know much about how business works
    Don’t care much if this country succeeds or fails

    But I do know that I love me
    And I know that Chicago does too
    So if I can bamboozle the fools like I did before
    What a wonderful world this can be–for me

    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2010/04/dont-know-much-about-history.html

  • sirmrks

    I read: http://jbjd.wordpress.com/ which has a ton of legal information regarding elegibility… and ran across a really good article on the constitutional eligibility of political candidates and the challenge period that we missed with obama.

    this is the last paragraph from: http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/03/citizen-has-standing-to-contest-the-eligibility-of-candidates-for-office/

    MRS. RONDEAU: What do you believe the state will do to ascertain the eligibility of the candidates you’ve challenged?

    MS. MERONI: This is essentially a test, a sincere test to find out what type of information the candidates will be asked to provide to prove their eligibility, so I really don’t know how it will proceed. There are some wild cards. One is what the State Board of Elections will do: will they simply make one ruling that says everyone has to show a birth certificate, and then we’re done, and then they’ll just dismiss my objection out of hand? If they do that, then I lack standing to challenge it. That could be one solution. Or maybe a candidate will refuse to produce verification. If I get a ruling that the onus of proof is on the signer, then I can take that ruling and say, “Look, they’ve ruled at this level that he has to prove it. I may lack standing, but he still has the responsibility to prove it.” Then I would have something that would throw me back into court, wouldn’t I?

    Obama came in under the secrecy of election law, at which he is an expert; that’s how he won the other elections. I’m sure the strategy was very well-calculated, and they assessed their risk factors and decided to go for it. There still are those risk factors, and Obama’s risk factor is that he can’t run again. If you look at the history, while in China, he made the statement that he would serve only one term. I think he knows it, and we can’t sit back and assume that he’s going to run again, but if we don’t do something, then we leave the door open for that and we lose the chance a second time.

    MRS. RONDEAU: Thank you very much for explaining your petition in such great detail. The Post & Email will follow up with you next week after

    its very much worth reading if you are interested in such things….. birther or not.

    it appears there is almost no way to challenge the citizenship of a potential candidate except during a 5 day period which gives you the standing to be able to challenge eligibility.

  • JanH

    Clinton Pledges Support for Georgia



  • Shadowfax

    SHV and Turndown

    So how fast are these Rare Earth Elements used up, and how much damage do they cause when spilled?

    ————-

    What are the ‘Rare Earth Elements’ you are talking about?
    Metal to make magnets?
    Diamonds, gold or what?

  • JanH

    Is bambi sure he can spare the time from his golf games?

    ———–

    July 05, 2010

    White House Rolls Out Red Carpet Ahead of Netanyahu Visit

    The White House is rolling out the red carpet ahead of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Tuesday visit to Washington as President Obama tries to smooth over tensions and move forward on Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

    The prime minister is expected to get a very different welcome than the one he received back in March.

    This time, he’ll stay at the official White House guest residence, the Blair House, as opposed to a hotel. The two leaders will also hold a photo op — unlike last time, when no pictures were released and no formal statement was issued after a pair of closed-door meetings at the White House. That meeting, which yielded no agreement, came after Israel announced new apartments in disputed east Jerusalem in the middle of Vice President Biden’s visit and triggered a stand-off with the White House.

    The Obama administration is looking to move past that when Netanyahu arrives. Though the deadly Israeli raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla in May drew fresh attention to Israel’s blockade policy, even that issue has been sidelined. The White House meeting Tuesday is expected to focus on how to move to direct peace talks with the Palestinians, which Netanyahu has been calling for.

    “The only way to successfully complete a negotiation as complicated as this is to have the two parties, Israel and the Palestinians, sit opposite one another and directly negotiate these complex issues together,” Netanyahu said.

    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says he will only begin direct talks if the issue of borders for a future Palestinian state is settled. In exchange, he’s willing to discuss a way to address Israel’s security concerns.

    Analysts say the White House appears to believe the red carpet treatment will lead to better results.

    “Perhaps the president was not as aware that he needs to maintain the semblance of good relations with Israel and the Israeli prime minister, especially if he wants Israeli public opinion to participate in moving the peace process forward,” said Chemi Shalev, political analyst for the Israeli newspaper Yisrael Hayom. “I think there is a bit of a second thought, and they are trying to put a best face forward and start a new stage in the relationship.”

    Israel did make a significant change to its blockade policy ahead of the meeting. The country on Monday ended restrictions on consumer goods into the Gaza Strip. Asked whether Netanyahu might go further and extend a 10-month construction ban on Jewish homes in the West Bank — land Palestinians want for a future state — a senior Israeli official said, “No, the government’s position has not changed.”

    The ban is set to expire Sept. 26. Failure to reach a mutual understanding on the issue could lead to worsening relations between the White House and Israel.

    The Israeli official told Fox News that during the meeting, Netanyahu will also ask for more sanctions on Iran beyond those recently passed by the United Nations and United States.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/white-house-rolls-red-carpet-ahead-netanyahu-visit/

  • Shadowfax

    (CNN) — An Iranian human rights activist warns Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani, a mother of two, could be stoned to death at any moment under the terms of a death sentence handed down by Iranian authorities.

    Only an international campaign designed to pressure the regime in Tehran can save her life, according to Mina Ahadi, head of the International Committee Against Stoning and the Death Penalty.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/05/iran.stoning/index.html?video=true?video=true&hpt=T1

  • wbboei

    The White House is rolling out the red carpet ahead of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Tuesday visit to Washington as President Obama tries to smooth over tensions and move forward on Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
    ————————————-
    Someone needs to tell the Obamacrats that you cannot un-ring a bell. Someone needs to tell his Jewish contributors in this country that a leopard does not change its spots, and knowing now what his true predelictions are, why he was installed as President and by whom, how can you ever be sure what little deals he is cutting behind your back. The good news is that Bibi has stood him down and is pushing for direct talks which remove Obama from the central role of mediator, interlocutor and broker of a potential peace accord which is not in Israel’s and America’s best interests.

  • turndownobama

    Shadow,

    These Rare Earth Elements sound like an oil company talking point to me. I’m sure they don’t get used up and don’t spill and aren’t very dangerous if spilled — compared to oil.

    But SHV doesn’t deal in anti-green talking points, so he’s the one with answers.

  • wbboei

    Only an international campaign designed to pressure the regime in Tehran can save her life,
    ————————-
    Did we not try that before, when dinnerjacket stole the election. And how well did it work. Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming into a room to sigh the sanctions accord. He fought against it every step of the way. He still believed what he said in the debates that he could sit down with Americas enemies and they would succumb to his charms. Delusional.

  • JanH

    “The good news is that Bibi has stood him down and is pushing for direct talks which remove Obama from the central role of mediator, interlocutor and broker of a potential peace accord which is not in Israel’s and America’s best interests.”

    —————-

    wbboei,

    How much do you want to bet that obama will do his best to insinuate himself into those talks anyway? Then he can say that only he alone was able to bring peace to the area.

  • wbboei

    How much do you want to bet that obama will do his best to insinuate himself into those talks anyway? Then he can say that only he alone was able to bring peace to the area.
    ——————————————-
    No bet Jan.

  • Shadowfax

    #
    turndownobama
    July 5th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Shadow,

    These Rare Earth Elements sound like an oil company talking point to me. I’m sure they don’t get used up and don’t spill and aren’t very dangerous if spilled — compared to oil.

    But SHV doesn’t deal in anti-green talking points, so he’s the one with answers.

    ———-
    What are these RARE earth elements SHV is talking about?
    Without knowing the subject, how can we discuss their effect?

  • ShortTermer

    I agree, wbboei, do whatever it takes to restore the Old Republic. I would be curious to know just how many young Americans would be able to define the concept of “Old Republic.”

  • Shadowfax

    Rough seas foil testing of giant skimmer ‘A Whale’; will continue when weather improves

    NEW ORLEANS

    Choppy seas have temporarily foiled attempts to see if a giant oil skimmer can be a silver bullet for cleanup efforts in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Bob Grantham, spokesman for Taiwanese shipping firm TMT, says the company’s vessel, dubbed “A Whale,” will need further testing off the coast of Louisiana.

    Grantham said in an e-mail Monday that conditions in the Gulf over the weekend were too choppy to get definitive answers on the vessel’s capability.

    Billed as the world’s largest oil skimmer, A Whale is supposed to be able to suck up 21 million gallons of oily water per day.

    Grantham says testing will resume as soon as the water is calmer.

    ——————
    I just watched this story covered on CNN tv and they just said, the tests were inconclusive as to if the skimmer works……………..Fox in this article at least says the testing needs to continue when the water isn’t so choppy.

    CNN didn’t even mention the weather, just left the watcher to wonder if the ship didn’t do it’s job…for what ever reasons.

  • jbstonesfan

    http://www.foxnews.com/
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    This is appalling.

  • Shadowfax

    jbstoesfan

    WTF?????????????

    NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Published July 05, 2010

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    Shown here is NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. (YouTube)

    NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his “foremost” mission as the head of America’s space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

    Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA’s orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.

    “When I became the NASA administrator — or before I became the NASA administrator — he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering,” Bolden said in the interview.

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    Barry and his bro agenda and cuts out the space program for his love of muslims.

    Get this turd out of our White House!!!!!

  • Shadowfax

    Sorry, forgot to wipe up on isle three.

  • JanH

    jbstonesfan
    July 5th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

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    Nothing this terrorist lover does surprises me anymore.

  • JanH

    Borders for PA: Abbas Relies on Clinton, Obama Ignores Bush

    05 July 10

    Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas is relying on former U.S. President Bill Clinton’s initiative as Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu flies to Washington. White House officials refuse to comment on former President George W. Bush’s written promises to Israel.

    Abbas told the Jordan news service Ammon.net that negotiations with Israel over a proposed new Arab state within Israel’s current borders must be based on Clinton’s initiative with former PA chairman Yasser Arafat and former Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin.

    Under the initiative, Israel would surrender 97 percent of the land restored to the Jewish State in the Six-Day War in 1967, including most of post-1967 Jerusalem, with the remainder of the land to be negotiated. %ad%

    Abbas also hardened his demand that Israel allow the immigration of millions of foreign Arabs claiming Israeli ancestry. He previously has stated that he knows it is not realistic for Israel to accept more than few thousand foreign Arabs. Buoyed by the Obama administration’s support for his other demands, Abbas told the Jordanian news site, “There are around six million Palestinian refugees in different countries, I do not expect all of them to return, but there is a crucial need to agree on solutions that ensure the return of a large number of them.”

    As U.S. President Barack Obama prepares for the visit of Prime Minister Netanyahu later this week, his National Security Council’s senior director for the Middle East declined to comment whether the Obama administration accepts former President Bush’s written promise in 2004 that heavily Jewish populated areas in Judea and Samaria would remain under Israeli control.

    “I don’t think … we’ll have a comment on these kinds of … private discussions that we’re having with the parties. We have a very good understanding with our Israeli partners about the foundations of this relationship and this effort to move toward our shared goal of comprehensive peace and two states,” Dan Shapiro said, as quoted by the Washington Times.

    The Bush letter to former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is the basis for Israel’s demand that the city Maaleh Adumim (pictured), east of Jerusalem, and the Gush Etzion bloc, south of the capital, remain outside a future PA state. Abbas has used the Israeli demand as a lever for demanding an equal amount of Israel land that would give the PA a direct link between Gaza and Judea and Samaria.

    The April 14, 2004 letter states that a final agreement on a new Arab state should reflect “new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers. It adds, “It is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.”

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/138439

  • jbstonesfan

    Agreed JanH…but watch the dog and pony show he puts on for Bibi..Sadly, many American super liberal Jews (which I was one of at one time) will fall for it and reassure themselves how much Obama cares for Israel-not!!!

  • wbboei

    Mr. Obama is doing the bidding of Saudi Arabia and Europe. Not the United States and Israel. It could not be clearer.

  • SHV

    What are these RARE earth elements SHV is talking about?
    Without knowing the subject, how can we discuss their effect?
    ********
    Lanthanum, Praseodymium, Neodymium, Samarium, Gadolinium, Dysprosium, etc.

    “To make the most efficient, lightest weight, lowest service wind turbine generator of electricity takes one ton of the rare earth metal, neodymium, per megawatt of generating capacity.” (Jack Lifton, 5/07/09)

    “Let’s take a look at wind turbines. In certain applications, two tons of rare earth magnets are required in the permanent magnet generator that goes on top of the turbine. If the permanent magnet is two tons, then 28% of that, or 560 lbs, is neodymium.” (Mineweb, 5/13/09)

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/159155-chinese-rare-earth-rationing-shouldn-t-sink-wind-power-sector

    cont…

  • SHV

    “Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/05/clean-energy-apos-s-dirty-little-secret/7377

    I guess my point is that it seems as if everything that I read about energy, ie. “Drill baby Drill”, clean Wind, Solar, More nuclear, etc. The opinions and recommendations that are being given are driven by an “agenda”, rather than working from “facts” to the agenda. Everything has good and bad and there needs to be a national energy policy driven by “facts’ rather than corporate money. One of the major stumbling blocks to “alternative” is our antiquated electrical grid. Currently, unlike the distribution of natural gas which has Federal cental regulation, the electric grid does not. The best areas for wind, solar, geo-thermal, etc. are the areas with the least access to the “Grid”. A few years ago, the cost estimate to re-do the electric grid was a “staggering” $670 billion which was thought to be beyond being able to be funded. In contrast, we have spent at least $900 billion in Iraq, for nothing.

    A perfect example was the mindless mantra “drill baby drill” and people who said “not so fast” were call anti-American tree-huggers”. Well who was paying for the “drill baby drill” campaign???

  • Shadowfax

    SHV

    Thanks for the info on Rare elements, unfortunately, I am not a chemist, but I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the wind turbines, seems like Denmark, Sweden and Holland have made windmills for centuries without the rare elements, and the big bucks could be thrown behind research in solar, wind and ocean power instead of towards the Big Oil companies.

    Not sure about this, but some news station said only half of the original stimulus money was given out. What if the Fraud gave some of it toward green research, not just a few million that he has given as a token to keep his Obots distracted? In the long run, these sources of energy are not going to run out, not going to pollute, and the new products they would manufacture could put America back in the drivers seat with jobs if the corporations don’t send these jobs overseas. If the Fraud were smart, he could pass a law saying the manufacturing of these new products could only be MADE IN THE USA.

  • SHV

    Last one:

    “Are Rare Earth Minerals Too Costly for Environment?”

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec09/china_12-14.html

  • SHV

    If the Fraud were smart, he could pass a law saying the manufacturing of these new products could only be MADE IN THE USA.
    ********
    That is the rub…no Rare Earth production in US, therefore the Chinese ultimately control where they are made. There is a mine in CA that was closed for environmental reasons and is going to be re-opened but at what cost?

  • Shadowfax

    SHV
    July 5th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    “Are Rare Earth Minerals Too Costly for Environment?”
    ———-
    This reminds me of the 12 series I watch on the History channel, when they came to Edison’s invention of the light bulb…

    In the period from 1878 to 1880 Edison and his associates worked on at least three thousand different theories to develop an efficient incandescent lamp. Incandescent lamps make light by using electricity to heat a thin strip of material (called a filament) until it gets hot enough to glow. Many inventors had tried to perfect incandescent lamps to “sub-divide” electric light or make it smaller and weaker than it was in the existing arc lamps, which were too bright to be used for small spaces such as the rooms of a house.

    Edison’s lamp would consist of a filament housed in a glass vacuum bulb. He had his own glass blowing shed where the fragile bulbs were carefully crafted for his experiments. Edison was trying to come up with a high resistance system that would require far less electrical power than was used for the arc lamps. This could eventually mean small electric lights suitable for home use.

    Rare elements are not the only way to make a battery, research is needed to invent something more common and safe, and that takes trial and error.

  • turndownobama

    ShortTermer
    July 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I agree, wbboei, do whatever it takes to restore the Old Republic. I would be curious to know just how many young Americans would be able to define the concept of “Old Republic.”

    ======================

    Well, it was long long ago in a galaxy far far away….

  • confloyd

    Here is an email I got from my son…its chilling!

    In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: ‘Who lost Europe ?’
    Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands , at the Four Seasons, New York , introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem .

    Dear friends,

    Thank you very much for inviting me.

    I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

    First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe . Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem .

    The Europe you know is changing.

    You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

    All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

    There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe . With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

    Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden . In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

    In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

    Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear ‘whore, whore’. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

    In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

    In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels , because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

    Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya , Israel . I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

    A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

    Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France . One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call ‘respect’. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

    The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey .

    Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators ‘settlers’. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

    Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

    The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages – at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

    Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means ‘submission’. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

    Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam ‘the most retrograde force in the world’, and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel . First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

    This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam’s territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines , Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan , Lebanon , and Aceh in Indonesia . Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

    The war against Israel is not a war against Israel . It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

    Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel , they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a ‘right-wing extremists’ or ‘racists’. In my country, the Netherlands , 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy
    mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America – as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome , Athens and Jerusalem .

    Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe , American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe ‘s children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.

    We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.

  • confloyd

    BTW, Tar balls from the oilgusher is washing up on Texas beaches in Galveston. I Hope I can make it to Corpus in the morning before the tarballs get there. The weather is stopping the skimming…the oil gusher is 400 miles from Galveston. Corpus is another 150 to 200 miles from Galveston.

  • confloyd

    Are these rare earth materials found in Afganistan??? So now instead of the Saudi’s we will be beholden to the Chinese…we are trading one tyrant for another.

  • confloyd

    Afghanistan Minerals
    According to reports from major news agencies appearing on June 13, the United States has just discovered vast mineral reserves in Afghanistan with an estimated worth of about $1 trillion dollars. This discovery has enormous consequences for the people of Afghanistan who have withstood several years of ongoing war and violence as well as for other countries which have commercial relationships with Afghanistan, for example, the United States and China.

    According to United States officials, Afghanistan Minerals discovery can drastically change the fate of the people of Afghanistan by transforming their whole economy, which currently is mainly based on opium production, into one of the most important mining centers of the world. The new economy would eclipse the nation’s current $12 billion dollars gross domestic product.

    The huge deposits of Afghanistan minerals found throughout all of the nation’s territory consists of an assortment of valuable minerals including iron, gold, copper, cobalt, niobium, rare earth elements, and lithium. Being iron and copper the biggest mineral deposits and lithium a key element in today’s technological world of which many of everyday electronics’ batteries are made of.

    Regarding the huge Afghanistan lithium deposits, an internal Pentagon memo states that Afghanistan could become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium,” according to The New York Times.

    But not everything is good news in this week’s announcement of the Afghanistan minerals; as the region’s economical importance has risen, violence could rise as well, and the currently conflicting parties could strengthen the pursuit of power that has brought havoc to the Afghanistan nation, thus making the correct handling of the discovery of Afghanistan’s minerals even more critical because it will become a crucial matter for Afghan people’s security and peace.

    With conflicting interests from the Afghan government officials, the United States, China, the Taliban and regional insurgents, one has to wonder what’s the best course of action to enable the Afghan people to obtain the benefit from the new nation’s wealth contained in the Afghanistan minerals and to prevent internal corruption and external influence from taking away the new opportunity the people of Afghanistan have to rebuild their nation.

    We invite you to sign the petition in order to give your support for the Afghans by shining some light on this subject and thus spreading the word

  • confloyd

    OMG, have you all seen this video of the gulf water boiling?


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  • SHV

    Afghanistan Minerals
    According to reports from major news agencies appearing on June 13, the United States has just discovered vast mineral reserves in Afghanistan with an estimated worth of about $1 trillion dollars.
    *******
    Mineral deposits in Afghanistan are nothing new. In the 60-70s the Russians identified a lot of potential but there are “minor” problems like how to ship the ore out of the country…the Russians were considering a northern route.

    I may be getting too cynical but the “breathless with excitement” minerals piece by Risen in the NYT looks like a plant by the Obama ministry of propaganda to one of their news stenographers. The date of the story corresponds to more news that the Afghanistan war is really turning to shit. Remember the Bush/Cheney propaganda ministry BS about how the Iraq war would pay for itself from oil??? American tax payers are close to $1 trillion in the hole for that fiasco and if Obama get his way for the “Good War” then it will be more of the same. ie Nancy and Harry couldn’t get $27 billion for short falls in Medicaid to help the 17% who are unemployed but Nancy said no problem for a $33 billion supplemental for the Afghan war. I guess the Afghan government officials who are air freighting billions of dollars to their private accounts, need more money.

  • confloyd

    SHV, Your right you just cant believe anything the news says anymore..its all propaganda!

  • mp

    In the late 90s, an isolated indigenous group in Colombia captured world headlines with an almost Avatar-esque conflict. From their remote home in the Andean cloud forests, the U’wa let it be known that if Occidental Petroleum carried out plans to drill for oil on their territory, they would commit mass ritual suicide by jumping off a cliff. Their elders explained that oil is part of ruiria, “the blood of Mother Earth”. They believe that all life, including their own, flows from ruiria, so pulling out the oil would bring on their destruction. (Oxy eventually withdrew from the region, saying there wasn’t as much oil as it had previously thought.)

    Virtually all indigenous cultures have myths about gods and spirits living in the natural world – in rocks, mountains, glaciers, forests – as did European culture before the scientific revolution. Katja Neves, an anthropologist at Concordia University, points out that the practice serves a practical purpose. Calling the Earth “sacred” is another way of expressing humility in the face of forces we do not fully comprehend. When something is sacred, it demands that we proceed with caution. Even awe. If we are absorbing this lesson at long last, the implications could be profound. Public support for increased offshore drilling is dropping precipitously, down 22% from the peak of the “Drill Now” frenzy. The issue is not dead, however. It is only a matter of time before the Obama administration announces that, thanks to ingenious new technology and tough new regulations, it is now perfectly safe to drill in the deep sea, even in the Arctic, where an under-ice clean up would be infinitely more complex than the one underway in the Gulf.

    Same goes for geo-engineering. As climate change negotiations wear on, we should be ready to hear more from Dr Steven Koonin, Obama’s undersecretary of energy for science. He is one of the leading proponents of the idea that climate change can be combated with techno tricks like releasing sulphate and aluminium particles into the atmosphere – and of course it’s all perfectly safe. !He also happens to be BP’s former chief scientist, the man who just 15 months ago was still overseeing the technology behind BP’s supposedly safe charge into deepwater drilling. Maybe this time we will opt not to let the good doctor experiment with the physics and chemistry of the Earth, and choose instead to reduce our consumption and shift to renewable energies that have the virtue that, when they fail, they fail small. As US comedian Bill Maher put it, “You know what happens when windmills collapse into the sea? A splash”.

    The most positive possible outcome of this disaster would not only be an acceleration of renewable energy sources like wind, but a full embrace of the precautionary principle in science. The precautionary principle holds that “when an activity raises threats of harm to the environment or human health” we tread carefully, as if failure were possible, even likely.

  • turndownobama

    Shadowfax
    July 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    SHV

    Thanks for the info on Rare elements, unfortunately, I am not a chemist, but I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the wind turbines, seems like Denmark, Sweden and Holland have made windmills for centuries without the rare elements, and the big bucks could be thrown behind research in solar, wind and ocean power instead of towards the Big Oil companies.
    [....] In the long run, these sources of energy are not going to run out, not going to pollute, and the new products they would manufacture could put America back in the drivers seat with jobs if the corporations don’t send these jobs overseas.

    ====================

    Busy day but I bet you’re right. No offense to SHV but some of those cites smell like oil company talking points. The oil companies (like the tobacco companies before them) have plenty of money to hire people to find obscure facts and write them up as though they concluded the matter. Throw them out into a general discussion to keep the green side scurrying around catching up on the research.

    We can’t dismiss these points out of hand — as a sensible person, SHV, thought them worth mentioning. I’m glad they are here for discussion and debunking.

    Offhand — this cite at least doesn’t have an anti-green headline. But look at the qualifiers:
    “ most efficient, lightest weight, lowest service wind turbine”
    [....]
    “In certain applications [....] on top of the turbine”
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/159155-chinese-rare-earth-rationing-shouldn-t-sink-wind-power-sector

  • wbboei

    Pinning the tail on the right donkey–in this case, jackass. So then it is more than what I said yesterday. It wasn’t merely the delayed response, it was the policy plus the man he put in charge, Salazar, as shv pointed out.
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    Obama Decried, Then Used, Some Bush Drilling Policies
    Wall Street Journal

    Reuters
    Choppy seas have limited the ability of ‘skimmers’ to collect oil in the Deepwater Horizon spill. Above, TMT Group’s converted super tanker ‘A Whale’ in the Gulf on Sunday.

    Less than four months after President Barack Obama took office, his new administration received a forceful warning about the dangers of offshore oil drilling.

    The alarm was rung by a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., which found that the government was unprepared for a major spill at sea, relying on an “irrational” environmental analysis of the risks of offshore drilling.

    The April 2009 ruling stunned both the administration and the oil industry, and threatened to delay or cancel dozens of offshore projects in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico.

    Despite its pro-environment pledges, the Obama administration urged the court to revisit the decision. Politically, it needed to push ahead with conventional oil production while it expanded support for renewable energy.

    Risky Design

    See details on the designs of deepwater Gulf wells.

    More photos and interactive graphics
    Another reason: money. In its arguments to the court, the government said that the loss of royalties on the oil, estimated at almost $10 billion, “may have significant financial consequences for the federal government.”

    The U.S. Court of Appeals reversed its decision and allowed drilling in the Gulf to proceed—including on BP PLC’s now-infamous Macondo well, 50 miles off the Louisiana coast.

    The Obama administration’s actions in the court case exemplify the dilemma the White House faced in developing its energy policy. In his presidential campaign, President Obama criticized the Bush administration for being too soft on the oil industry and vowed to support greener energy forms.

    But, once in office, President Obama ended up backing offshore drilling, bowing to political and fiscal realties, even as his administration’s own scientists and Democratic lawmakers warned about its risks.

    After the Macondo well blew out, sinking the Deepwater Horizon rig and causing a catastrophic spill, Mr. Obama said his administration should have been more vigilant in handling the oil industry. “More needed to be done, and more needs to be done” to tighten oversight, he told reporters recently.

    Still, the administration defends its intervention in the court case, and says the ruling made it look more cautiously at whether to open new areas to offshore drilling. It pins blame on the Bush administration for pursuing a policy for deep-offshore drilling “that was driven by one principle: open everything,” said White House spokesman Ben LaBolt.

    More

    Big Skimmer Hindered by Weather; Oil Hits Texas
    “Over the course of the year,” he said, “the Interior Department conducted a review process to produce an offshore strategy that closed a number of environmentally sensitive areas from exploration and put in place a process to explore where additional production could take place.” Since the Deepwater Horizon explosion, he added, “we are implementing top to bottom reforms to ensure that a disaster like this is never repeated.”

    Michel Olsen, a former official in the Bush Interior Department, defended the previous administration’s offshore approach. “Our policy was founded on the requirements of the law,” he said. “It wasn’t just to give industry whatever it wanted.”

    Mr. Obama inherited a slew of energy challenges when he took office in early 2009. The agency within the Interior Department charged with overseeing the oil and gas industry, the Minerals Management Service, was reeling from scandals. An inspector general’s report months earlier had described rigged contracts, drug use and sex between MMS employees and industry representatives.

    Along with cleaning up the MMS, Interior had to wrestle with a five-year drilling plan the Bush administration had filed just days before leaving office. The plan sought to open the waters in most of the U.S. outer-continental shelf to oil and gas exploration between 2010 and 2015. The push into ever deeper waters in the Gulf, which began in earnest in the mid-1990s, reflected the reality that drilling in shallower waters was largely tapped out.

    To buy time and work out its own policy preferences, the Obama administration reopened the Bush plan for public comment.

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    The West Atlas oil rig on fire last November off Australia’s coast.

    The tensions in the administration’s own deliberations were clear from the start. Mr. Obama’s Interior secretary, Ken Salazar, quickly picked a fight with the oil industry when he retroactively withdrew 77 oil-and-gas lease sales in Utah that the Bush administration had approved in its final weeks. The move drew applause from environmentalists and criticism from oil companies.

    In April 2009, Mr. Salazar went on a four-city tour to discuss the nation’s offshore energy future. His first stop: A solar-powered convention center in Atlantic City, N.J., where he touted the potential of offshore wind power to supply clean electricity to the eastern seaboard. Boosting offshore renewable energy had become a “top priority” for Interior at the express wish of Mr. Salazar, who had issued a secretarial order to that effect just three weeks earlier.

    But, before the packed house of politicians, activists and interested citizens, Mr. Salazar also defended the need for more offshore oil and gas. “The reality is that we have oil and gas potential in significant ways, especially in” the Gulf of Mexico, he said, according to a video of the event.

    The administration was apprehensive about expanding offshore drilling. But it also hoped to get a legislative package on climate change through Congress. At the center of the bill was a controversial and potentially expensive provision requiring companies to acquire permits to release carbon dioxide.

    To navigate Capitol Hill, the administration needed to strike a balance between the “green energy” projects favored by environmentalists and liberals, and the traditional oil and gas projects favored by Republicans, whose support would be crucial in the Senate. Continuing to promote offshore drilling was part of that bargain.

    But the federal appeals court decision, which came just days after Mr. Salazar’s tour, threatened to throw a wrench in that process. The case was brought two years earlier by indigenous Alaskans and a coalition of environmental groups. It challenged a Bush-era plan to lease large chunks of offshore Alaska to oil drilling.

    The groups argued the strategy didn’t adequately account for the whole range of environmental perils raised by oil drilling on the outer shelf.

    The appeals court agreed, ruling that the federal program was based on “irrational” analysis. The government’s own assessment, the court found, weighed only the impact of oil washing up on shorelines. In a foreshadowing of the post-spill debate, the court noted that the analysis didn’t address the impact of a significant spill further out at sea.

    At first, Mr. Salazar used the ruling as a way to draw a distinction between his approach and that of the Bush White House. Blasting what he called “the previous administration’s failure to apply the law,” Mr. Salazar said in a statement that he planned to “fix the problems” the court identified. He would do so not by firing managers or shaking up MMS, but by subjecting offshore drilling to heightened scrutiny. Those fixes, he said, would “put oil and gas leasing decisions back on a firm scientific footing.”

    Still, the ruling presented an immediate problem. It threw into uncertainty hundreds of millions of dollars in drilling projects already under way in the Gulf—the source of about a third of the country’s domestic oil supply and the lifeblood of the regional economy. In addition, the government had another big lease sale for Gulf offshore acreage coming up in August.

    In its response, the government noted that the oil and gas from approved exploration and drilling projects had a combined value of $7.65 billion. Among the existing leases, the petition noted, was the March 2008 Lease Sale #206. That deal included BP’s acquisition, for $34 million, of the acreage encompassing the Macondo well.

    Voiding existing leases, the Justice Department argued on behalf of Interior, would cause “severe and unnecessary disruptions” to oil and gas activity in the Gulf of Mexico, and could push companies and drilling rigs toward other nations with less onerous regulations.

    A day after the administration’s petition, the industry’s main lobbying group, the American Petroleum Institute, made its own case echoing the government’s arguments. “The significance of [Gulf of Mexico] activities under the five-year program cannot be overstated,” the API argued.

    In late July, the D.C. appeals court responded to the government petition by clarifying its earlier ruling. Only drilling in Alaska, the case’s main focus, would be stopped. Activity in the Gulf of Mexico could continue while the administration carried out a new environmental analysis to address the court’s concerns about deep-water spills.

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    In February, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, left, toured Nantucket Sound for a proposed offshore wind energy project.

    Mr. Salazar began to express confidence that he had resolved the problems within the Minerals Management Service that had led to poor oversight of offshore drilling. In September, in testimony before the House Natural Resources Committee, he listed the steps he had taken to make sure ethical lapses “don’t occur in the future.”

    Still, inside the administration there was debate about the right policy for offshore drilling.

    On Sept. 21, Jane Lubchenco, Mr. Obama’s handpicked head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, filed a lengthy comment on the Bush-era drilling plan still under review. She cited several concerns, including the government’s tendency to underestimate the likelihood of oil spills and to downplay their potential environmental impacts. She also noted the government’s penchant for cribbing from older, often outdated, environmental analyses.

    She cited a Congressional Research Service study from earlier in the year. “The threat of oil spills raises the question,” the report said, “of whether U.S. officials have the necessary resources at hand to respond to a major spill.”

    The administration’s struggle to find middle ground on its offshore policy came to a head in Senate hearings in mid-November, just weeks after a drilling rig off the coast of Australia had suffered a deepwater blowout, creating an oil leak that would go on for months.

    Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) pointed to an enlarged photo of the Australian rig in flames and asked rhetorically whether he was “just being old-fashioned” to worry that a similar blowout could occur in the U.S.

    MMS Deputy Director Walter Cruickshank assured the panel that such fears were misplaced. The Australian rig wouldn’t have been licensed to operate in U.S. waters, he said. The U.S., he said, had “what we believe is the most aggressive oil spill contingency planning…in the world.”

    On March 31, Mr. Salazar joined President Obama in a hangar at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland to announce their new offshore policy. Standing before an F-18 “Green Hornet” fighter jet designed to run partly on bio-fuel, Mr. Obama told the audience that “we’ll employ new technologies that reduce the impact of oil exploration…And we’ll be guided not by political ideology, but by scientific evidence.”

    The plan was designed in part to allay the federal court’s concerns. To satisfy the court’s demand for better “balance,” it included a broader environmental analysis, examining the impact of spilled oil on marine life and not just on shorelines.

    It also ranked prospective drilling areas in terms of their environmental sensitivity. The Central Gulf of Mexico, where BP’s Macondo well was based, topped the “most sensitive” column. It also scrapped a handful of planned lease sales in Alaska.

    But the proposal kept much of the Bush plan intact, and even added for the first time new lease sales off the coast of Virginia.

    It also relied extensively on environmental impact analyses carried out in April 2007 that the court had found wanting.

    The 2007 document said “large oil spills associated with [outer continental shelf] activities are low-probability events.” The “most likely size” of a serious spill, that report concluded, would total 4,600 barrels—a fraction of what the Deepwater Horizon continues to allow into the water every day.

    Kieran Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, which brought the original lawsuit, said their court victory wound up changing little. “Salazar, and by extension Obama, have pursued the same offshore program as the Bush administration, even while playing a smoke-and-mirrors game,” he said.

    Two weeks before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, President Obama offered a plug for wider offshore exploration. “Oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills,” he told a gathering in Charlotte, N.C. “They are technologically very advanced.”

    On April 20, with the blowout on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, everything changed.

    The Macondo spill has forced the administration to take many of the steps it dismissed as draconian last summer in the wake of the appeals court ruling. On May 27, Mr. Salazar canceled a lease sale in the Gulf set for August. He ordered that all lease sales set for 2011 had to face tougher environmental scrutiny.

    And he ordered a six-month moratorium on all drilling activity in the Gulf of Mexico. That moratorium was struck down as arbitrary by a federal judge in New Orleans in June, but Mr. Salazar has fought back, insisting the moratorium remain in place. So far the judge’s ruling stands.

    Write to Neil King Jr. at neil.king@wsj.com and Keith Johnson at keith.johnson@wsj.com

  • confloyd

    turndown, I was looking up this company the other night and it had a different kind of windmill, it did not look like the ones we see with huge propellars. I went to the site and found their main office was in Calif. and the manufacturing was being done in India. The government needs to quit lying to its people and saying that these new green technologies are going to bring jobs here…they are building these offshore. Its all a lie, the people that want to use this to make money will build them in different countries to make their profits larger and scalp the taxpayers money to do it…The huge stimulus was a payoff to his donators…none of the money made jobs for the people who actually voted for the scumbag.

  • mp

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/27/ex-bp-official-received-payouts-perks/

    this guy steve kroonin is #2 guy in the energy dept…as he was chief scientist at BP, why is Chu and BVO not using his expertise to stop the spill….why did they say that only BP has the expertise to stop/kill the well….BO has the right “BP” expertise just under him…

    BTW: this is a senate approved position and nobody minded that!!!!1

  • turndownobama

    SHV
    July 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    I guess my point is that it seems as if everything that I read about energy, ie. “Drill baby Drill”, clean Wind, Solar, More nuclear, etc. The opinions and recommendations that are being given are driven by an “agenda”, rather than working from “facts” to the agenda. Everything has good and bad and there needs to be a national energy policy driven by “facts’ rather than corporate money.

    ==========================

    So where and how are we (or anyone) learning about these facts, and how do we know what is being left out? Anything with a title like “dirty little secret” or “too costly for enviroment” is obviously slanted.

    The most volume of ‘facts’ is going to come from the most money paid to researchers and writers and media: ie corporate money.

    I see two approaches to a balanced view. One is to read from both agendas; whichever facts one source omits, the other will give. Another way is to find a report favoring the side that didn’t fund it: eg Palin’s survey of non-fossil power sources available in Alaska and how they could be used.

    There’s also a sort of “summary judgement” appproach, which Shadow and I have been using. Assume the prosecution (ie the anti-greens) is right on certain facts; take the worst case against the REE’s etc — and see if it adds up to enough to worry about. See how the worst (future hypothetical) case of REEs compares with the best (actual) case of oil (Valdez, BP).

  • turndownobama

    confloyd,

    I don’t care where the jobs go. I just want no more oil in the ocean, which destroys not only jobs in the Gulf but also animals.

    All jobs are going overseas with Obama. So what else is new?

  • Shadowfax

    turndownobama

    I agree that the big Oil companies and stock holders don’t want to see their money train dry up, like you pointed out, the tobacco industry not only added ingredients to cigarettes to addict it’s users but also tried to hide the fact that they caused cancer. How many years, and still today, do people that push a dangerous product hide their corruption and try to destroy anyone, media that goes against them.
    Just because one procedure of making a product, like windmills might be expensive, doesn’t mean that all future intentions in green energy should be held back or lied about.

    Another example is the bullshit that Hannity is pushing on his show right now. Blaming the stock market corruption on the hippies of the 60′s. (Saying they are the greedy people that took over the stock market.)
    As if those that were not hippies were to blame.

  • SHV

    F’ing… Ijits
    *****
    “The BP/Government police state”

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html

    Where was Greenwald when people who thought that a sociopath wasn’t a good choice for the US Presidency were driven from “progressive” blogs by “police state” tactics and the Dem. primary process was subverted by “police state” behavior??? And now he is “shocked” and clutching his pearls because a sociopath and his enablers have extended that behavior to the functioning of the state apparatus???? What an a**hat!!

  • confloyd

    turndown, If they are going to use my tax dollars I want the jobs here, not in India. I don’t want any more oil in the Gulf either, but the horse is already out…I beginning to think they can’t stop or won’t so they can stick the middle class with more taxes to bring the rest of the world up to our standards. WHy don’t these countries pay themselves…if they are that poor…then they are not polluting because they have no industry…the american companies are over there polluting their countries and then they want us to pay for the greening of the companies that they moved from here…so what they are doing is shipping our jobs offshore to make more money because there is no regulation, so along comes climate gate and so now the very same companies that left here want the people they laid off to pay for the upgrades…I don’t think so.

  • turndownobama

    confloyd,

    Only ONE horse got out this year: one BP gusher. If we keep on using oil, more and more spills will happen in future. The only way to stop future damage is to stop using oil.

  • ShortTermer

    confloyd, that email from your son was mindbending.

  • wbboei

    F’ing… Ijits
    *****
    “The BP/Government police state”

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html

    Where was Greenwald when people who thought that a sociopath wasn’t a good choice for the US Presidency were driven from “progressive” blogs by “police state” tactics and the Dem. primary process was subverted by “police state” behavior??? And now he is “shocked” and clutching his pearls because a sociopath and his enablers have extended that behavior to the functioning of the state apparatus???? What an a**hat!!
    ————————————-
    Fine point SHV. Let me put it to verse:

    1. FIRST, THE OBAMACRATS came for the HILLARY SUPPORTERS,
    They committed fraud and intimidation in the caucuses
    They disenfranchised them at the RBC on 5/31/08

    Did BIG MEDIA call these “police state tactics”?
    No. They praised Obama and they covered it up.
    Because they hate the Clintons.

    2. NEXT, THE OBAMACRATS came for the TEA PARTY PEOPLE ,
    They called them ignorant and racist racists
    And they used union goons to physically assault them.

    Did big media call these “police state tactics”?
    No. They vilified the Tea Party and covered up the Obama tactics.
    Because they are elitists and hate the American People.

    3. NOW, THE OBAMACRATS are coming for HONEST REPORTERS (an oxymoron)
    They are abridging their right to cover the Gulf disaster–so they say.
    And they are threatening them with prosecution–and jail–so they say.

    Big Media does not scruple to call THESE actions “police state tactics”
    They work themselves into high dudgeon and invoke the First Amendment as if it were holy writ
    Even though the original intent was to protect patriots with printing presses
    Not these paid and pampered pricks who practice their own form of censorship

    So when the Obamacrats throw one or more of them
    In Angola State Prison where they belong
    Don’t look to me for sympathy–or a writ of habeas corpus.

  • turndownobama

    SHV,

    Sorry I’m so abrupt today.

    Compare medical reserach. Two companies have competing drugs. Each company funds studies to look for beneficial ‘links’ to their drug and harmful ‘links’ to the competitor’s drug. Then they hire people to search these and similar studies and write popular articles showing their drug as good and the competetor’s as bad.

    The popular articles are full of false equivalencies. If Drug A is clearly the safer, still they will get an article written saying “Drug A is linked to a 400% rise in hangnails. (In fact of 1,000,000 patients, 400 would get hangnails instead of 4 getting hangnails. Big ffffing deal. But they headline it “The dirty little secret of Drug A”. Then discussion gets focused on details of those hangnails and the impression is given that we should give up on Drug A.

    There IS no impartial, fact-based venue. The studies are published in popular magazines funded by ads from one company or another.

    Same with this stuff.

  • Shadowfax

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh, my first real trip over to watch CNN with 360, and after 77 days of just looking for articles on the Gulf gusher, finally some news on it.
    Too bad Fox, you still don’t get it.
    We need news, real news on everything, not just news that show Republican’s in the best light and don’t bother with much of anything else.

  • SHV

    Compare medical reserach. Two companies have competing drugs. Each company funds studies to look for beneficial ‘links’ to their drug and harmful ‘links’ to the competitor’s drug.
    *********
    Well I am headed out into the weeds but the “popular” press doesn’t bother me as much as the drug companies suppressing the research data that show results that show no or harmful effects for a drug and the drug get approved by the FDA. Or no inspection of the drug production facilities and people die. Same with the Oil companies, fudge the data, get an exemption, no inspections. I am finding the same trends in “scientific” literature on energy….picking and choosing the “facts” to support the “agenda”.

    The bottom line on the energy debate is the “third rail”‘ too many people. The energy debate is basically moving the chairs on the Titanic…Our ecosystem can’t support the growth of the human population. Ultimately it is self correcting, more humans, more energy demand more CO2, warming, Polar and sub-arctic melting..more CO2 and methane….more warming..collapse of agriculture for large parts of the world’s population.

  • Mrs. Smith

    WP- White Voters leaving Obama

    “Four years after Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) lost the white vote by 17 percentage points, Obama lost it by 12, according to exit polls. While the 2008 gains were generally attributed to Obama’s strength with young voters — he won by 10 points among whites 18 to 29 years old — he managed to improve on Kerry’s showing with white voters across every age demographic.

    Fast-forward to today. With the November midterm elections less than four months away, Obama’s standing among white voters has sunk — leading some party strategists to fret that the president’s erosion — and the party’s — could adversely affect Democrats’ chances of holding on to their House and Senate majorities.

    “Since in the past House elections white voters tended to represent the independent vote, [the midterms] will surely be devastating for Democrats running in an election that will be a referendum on the Obama agenda,” predicted one senior Democratic operative who closely tracks House races.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/04/AR2010070403988.html

  • S

    confloyd
    July 5th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    OMG, have you all seen this video of the gulf water boiling?

    **********************************************

    that video is shocking…one can only imagine what is in that once beautiful, clean water…

    …this is a disgrace…where the hell are all the envioronmentalists?

    where are the Dims? where is O? it is like they are ignoring the enormity and seriousness of what is going on…

    all weekend I saw ‘slice of life’ human interest clips on tv about what this is ACTUALLY doing to people’s lives and livilihoods and the enormous domino effect it is having on whole communities and the coastline…not to mention the assualt this is on our sea and land…this is the equivalent of a terrorist attack on our country…and O is MIA…

  • S

    the title of this post by admin is ‘the death of America’…and those words are ringing true more and more each day…

    …excuse the length of the following but it is sickening how the MSM and O’s WH are avoiding this story of utter destruction…our country is literally dying…

    …take note of what the conservationist says re: the chemicals being poured into the water…who knows what this holds for the future and the health of the people and living creatures…

    …we really need a hero…and in this case, the money is secondary…they are not focused on the cleanup and have wasted such valuable time…and now positioned us for the hurricane season…this alone should become O’s albatross…he is useless…

    utdocuments.blogspot.com/2010/06/transcript-mac-mcclelland.html

    Monday, June 28, 2010
    Transcript – Mac McClelland

    Glenn Greenwald: My guest today on Salon Radio is Mac McClelland, who is a reporter for Mother Jones, who has been providing some of the nation’s best on the scene reporting of the BP oil spill, essentially from the start, including effort to restrict coverage, and we’re here to talk about some of her reporting.

    Thanks so much for joining me.

    Mac McClelland: Thanks for having me.

    GG: One of the things that has struck me about your reporting from the start is that it seemed to be conveying so much more urgency about the magnitude of the disaster than the American media generally was conveying, and so I wanted to begin by asking you what motivated you to go there and do this on the scene reporting, and when is it that you realized the magnitude of this crisis?

    MM: I was actually already in New Orleans reporting a different story, and one day when I was supposed to be meeting soon, I looked at a map and saw the direction the spill was moving in, and so I drove down to one of the barrier islands that looked like it was going to be in the path of destruction, and I happened to arrive as oil was washing up on the shore. I think the second that you see it, literally the second you see it, you realize how massive this disaster is.

    I mean, that was only the very, very beginning of the brownish rust-colored stick globules that have washed up, but still, they were all over the beach, and a lot of them are in tiny pieces and are broken up, and there is stuff all over the shore, and if you think about, how could somebody possibly pick this up and clean this up? Especially when it’s going to be washing in in big black waves for the next many, many months. It’s hard not to see the urgency of it, I think.

    GG: One of the issues that you’ve been writing about most in terms of what is hard to find in other places, is the concerted effort on the parts of lots of different entities, law enforcement entities, and BP especially, to prevent coverage of what was really happening, and on May 22 – and this is one of just so many examples, but it was pretty stark – you wrote, quote:

    It’s Saturday May 22, a month into the BP oil spill, and I’ve been trying to get to Elmer’s Island for the past two day. I’ve been stymied at every turn by Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s deputies, brought in to supplement the local police force of Grand Island, a 229-year-old settlement here, at the very southern tip of Louisiana.

    Can you talk about just in general the efforts that you encountered to prevent you and other members of the media from covering the spill?

    MM: Sure. Well, it started with sheriff’s deputies; I was encountering sheriff’s deputies all over Grand Isle as soon as oil had washed up, and they’re actually still there, doing the blockades now, a month later. They have also brought in private security contractors, and some of the actual just clean-up workers will be conscripted into security duties. They stepped up a lot of security shifts of the sheriff’s deputies from several parishes here in Louisiana. One parish has 57 extra shifts per week that they are devoting entirely to, basically, BP security detail, and BP is paying the sheriff’s office, reimbursing them for that overtime.

    There’s a lot of security down here, and you can see – someone from the local TV station down here was thrown off a beach. I still get thrown off of beaches, so as much as people are saying, we’re not doing that anymore, and the Coast Guard is saying that the coast is clear, it’s obviously not the case when you’re actually on the ground.

    GG: There’s been some discussion about the role that the federal government has played in those efforts to prevent media coverage including restrictions on how low helicopters could fly, obviously the use of dispersants, it was suggested was an effort to prevent detection. Have you encountered that, the role of the federal government in what seems to be coverage-preventive efforts?

    MM: Yeah, I was actually on a helicopter flyover, I guess it was about a week ago now, and the federal government had by that time already announced that they had eased the restrictions and that now helicopters that were carrying civilians or press – non-military or BP related people – could fly as low as 1500 feet, and that is absolutely not true. It certainly wasn’t true when I was in the air; our pilot had to be at least 3000 feet in the air.

    He had extreme restrictions, and we could see people related to the government or BP flying well below us, so they’re still allowed in that lower air space, but we had to stay 3000 feet in the air. And even when we were that high up, there were military guys coming over the radio harassing my pilot for being in the area at all. So, that certainly is not the case that those restrictions are totally eased.

    GG: One of the interesting things you write about in media criticism is that a lot of times people listen to media in a very kind of abstract and theoretical way, even if they sympathize with it, it’s
    very hard almost believe in a visceral that it’s actually happening, and yet one of the things that often occurs is that when somebody has first-hand knowledge of an incident, because they’re involved in it or seeing it, and then compare that to how the media is covering it, they really get a vivid understanding of how the media can distort things or how coverage can be distorted by the government or others, and prevent the media from covering it.

    So, in terms of your being on the scene from the start, was there a disparity between the way the media was conveying what had happened here, the seriousness of it, and the reality, either because the media just did a bad job or because it was prevented from covering it in a way that would have informed people about what was taking place?

    MM: I think it’s hard, since I’ve not been here for two months, and the local media is freaking out, obviously. All of the front page stories on the local papers are about this spill. I imagine that that is not the case elsewhere in the country. Again, I check in with The Times and see that they’re, it doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the alarm bells ringing in other papers as there are down here. I think it’s difficult to feel the whole distress of the situation unless you are really immersed in it, and it’s possible that media outlets are concerned about people getting coverage fatigue because we’ve been talking about this for such a long time now. And we’re going to keep talking about it for many, many months.

    I lived here during Katrina and we saw the same thing, where people stopped talking about what was going on, and down here it was a totally different tone to the story. I mean, it’s all anybody talks about. Every single radio show is about the oil spill. All the news shows are about the oil spill. The newspapers, the conversation, on the street, in bars, in diners – it’s all-consuming because it really is going to change everybody’s lives in a huge way.

    GG: There was an incident this week that you documented, and have been investigating, and I’m going to link to your description of what took place, but still if you could just walk me through what it is that happened, how you learned about that, and what you were incensed, that would be really helpful.

    MM: There is a conservation coordinator from the American Birding Association, as you can tell by his title, he’s a very threatening individual, and he was videotaping himself giving a monologue about Corexit, and how dangerous Corexit is, in front of BP…

    GG: Corexit is what?

    MM: Is the chemical dispersant that they’re using.

    GG: Right.

    MM: He was basically talking about how Corexit is going to kill us all, and was across the street on private property in a sugar cane field, but you could see the BP building was in the background. But it was across traffic and all the way across the street.

    GG: When you say, it was on private property, it was not on BP private property, right?

    MM: Oh yes, right. Not on BP-owned, private citizen property is that he was standing on.

    GG: And he was essentially filming this narration with BP in the background to dramatize that it was BP that was releasing this dispersant that was so dangerous.

    MM: Correct.

    GG: And so then what happened?

    MM: The a sheriff’s deputy from Terrebonne parish approached him, and you can’t see the deputy on camera, but you can hear him clearly and he tells him that BP doesn’t want anyone filming there. He asked him for ID, and the guys asks, him, am I breaking any laws, and the cop says, not particularly, but BP doesn’t really want people filming here, so all I’m going to do is strongly suggest that you need the of leave. I’m just going to strongly suggest that you leave And he tells him that a couple times.

    He runs his information to see if he has any warrants, and he doesn’t. and so the deputy leaves, and the guy goes on with his business After that, he packs up his camera, he gets in his car, and he drives away, and as soon as he starts driving away, the cop pulls him over, and…

    GG: the same cop you had warned him to leave?

    MM: Right Same cop. Pulls him over, except now he has somebody in the car with him, and it’s a guy whose badge says Chief BP Security. So the cop went back to BP to pick up this security guy, and brought him back and together they pulled over this conservation coordinator. Basically the cop just stood by while the BP guy asked this citizen they had pulled over questions for 20 minutes. He asked him who he worked for, who he answered to, what he was doing there, why
    he was in Louisiana, etc., etc. And then after, he called in, the BP guy was calling in information about this guy as he was answering it, and after about 20 minutes they let him go.

    GG: Now I guess there was some kind of a– someone notified you that the police officer was off duty and was working for directly for BP at the time, how did that happen?

    MM: I finally got a hold of – you know, police departments aren’t the fastest people to call the press back down here, and especially right now. but I finally got a hold of somebody from the
    Terrebonne Parish Sheriff’s Department, and he said that that guy was not actually on duty, he was working private security detail. He was moonlighting basically, but the thing about that is is that in Louisiana, you can wear your uniform, your sheriff’s uniform, no matter who you’re working for, and use your car.

    So, I mean, you wouldn’t know that this guy was essentially a security guard and not a sheriff’s deputy at that particular time, unless he pulled you over and you said, you are dressed like a cop, and in a cop car, but are you actually a cop right now? There’s no way to tell who they’re working for or on whose authority they’re pulling you over or interrogating you.

    GG: And when police officer had warned him to leave the area and to stop filming in front of BP headquarters though not on BP property, was the claim also that he was not acting in his official
    capacity as a police officer?

    MM: That guy never said anything about who he was working for at the time, and the guy he pull over had no idea, and so he just said, I’m going to strongly suggest that you leave because BP doesn’t want you here. This guy assumes that he was speaking on behalf of the Terrebonne Parish Sheriff’s Office. When I talked to the guy from the sheriff’s office who was explaining to me that all of this behavior was totally on the up and up, it was completely standard, because that guy could have been a terrorist, so even though none of… this conservation coordinator was not breaking any laws, he was still be suspicious, and since he was being suspicious, it’s fine that the sheriff pulled him over and let this BP guy interrogate him.

    GG: I mean the reason, one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you about this is that I found this so incredibly creepy. I mean it’s essentially, it sounds like a corporate police state, basically. In you experience, is this a one-time aberrational incident, or has there been a lot of cooperation along these lines between BP and law enforcement?

    MM: There is definitely a lot of cooperation between BP and law enforcement. This Terrebonne parish sheriff’s department, they alone have 40 of their deputies who are in the private employ of BP on they’re time off, so just in that one little parish there’s 40 cops who look like cops but are not necessarily always cops. In the rest of the parishes, where they have stepped up their security detail that they’re working for BP, BP is paying them.

    They’re paying these sheriffs departments, so there’ s obviously a lot of collaboration between and part of the things that had originally happened when I tried to get down to Grand Isle and I was originally encountering all of these restrictions, the BP liaison, who was married to a sheriff from the department that was telling me that I wasn’t allowed through, said, we have a lot of sway over the sheriff departments. And of course the sheriff’s departments will say that that’s not true, but anyone down here can tell you that all the evidence points of the contrary.

    GG: And have you found that your ultimately able to circumvent these restrictions and provide that coverage and get the access that you want, or have you been meaningful impeded in being able to convey what’s going on there as a results of these police actions?

    MM: I definitely haven’t seen as much as I would be able to if there weren’t a whole bunch of cops standing in my way telling me I can’t go and look at stuff. I made it onto, there was one wildlife refuge I made it on to there after I had to wait for two days because the sheriff’s blockade wouldn’t let me through until BP gave me permission, and it took them – and you have to be escorted.

    So it took me two days to get a BP escort as if I were in a war zone or something to get to this wildlife refuge and since then the way that I’ve beenkeeping up with it is that one of the clean-up workers who is on that island called me in the middle of the night and tells me what’s going on, because there’s not press on that island, and so he’ll calling to give me updates like, hey, by the way, on this 8 mile stretch of wildlife refuge we only have 60 workers. And they’re not really doing anything. And it looks worse every day.

    Those are the sort of things that nobody is getting pictures of because it’s hard to get on there. When I tried to get on to that island the second time, with PBS who’s down here, and they asked me to take them and I did, and they couldn’t get on because they were told they would have to wait for two days. And that’s a story killer for a lot of people. I mean this guy can’t just hang around and wait for a couple of days, and then the video wouldn’t be ready for broadcast.

    So they did actually totally successfully keep PBS from getting footage of this island, and that’s only one of many beaches around here where I’ve been told that I have to leave or that I can’t get on at all. Sometimes I can kayak cause a lot of these islands are pretty close – I kayaked to a couple of them to get around their restrictions. You can’t get everywhere in the Gulf on a kayak

    GG: Right. So, just the last question: can you – and it’s a pretty broad question, so I’ll let you kind of pick and choose what you think is the most important to hear and you talk about, just first-hand witness the extent of the devastation of the Gulf from this oil spill and the wildlife and wetlands and other things that you actually seen in a way that may be national media hasn’t totally conveyed. Through no fault of their own, but just in terms of what you’ve seen, and also in
    terms of the adequacy or inadequacy of the cleanup efforts , what kinds of things have you seen that would let you believe there there’s not enough being done in response.

    MM: The cleanup effort is probably most alarming me about the things that I’ve been looking at. You see the pictures, everybody knows that these beaches are covered in crude, and I think we’re going to see more pictures of that now that Florida and these beautiful white sandy beaches are also being destroyed, but there seems to be no oversight of these cleanup efforts and they’re pretty important obviously. That, like I said, Elmer’s Island is a wildlife refuge; there were 60 guys on there.

    I went to an island that five miles of beach – it was the island where those really famous AP photos of the birds that are just drowning in really, really thick crude, those photos – on that island there’s 30 guys. There’s 30 guys on that whole island and so there oil everywhere. It doesn’t even look like anyone is trying to take care of the problems and to consider how much more is going to wash up, it’s mind boggling to think that anyone will ever be able to restore these beaches at the the rate that it’s going.

    And I can’t find any evidence that the government is really watching this closely and taking care of it. The Coast Guard sends out these press releases where they say, we have twenty-some thousand responders on the ground, and when I called the coast guard and I said, can I get a break down of these numbers, they said, Oh, that’s BP’s information, that’s not actually our numbers, so we’re going to have to ask them. So the government is not only disseminating official BP stats as a official government stats, but there not even fact checking it. They’re not even following up and asking for a spreadsheet of who these volunteers are and where they are.

    So the people down here who live here and whose lives are totally altered are also very concerned that the response isn’t enough. isn’t fast enough, and most importantly, nobody’s watching, because nobody believes that BP has the citizens and the environment at the top of their priority list. So they really want someone who does those things at the top of their priority list paying attention and being in charge and that does not appear to be happening.

    GG: Well your reporting has, as I said at the start and I really mean it, been really great. I’ve used it as one of my primary resources to feel like I have been able to be informed about what going one, and the most recent episodes involving the the deployment of a police force to carry out BP corporate interest in violation of the law by intimidating people who are trying to cover, is just unbelievably disgusting and outrageous and I hope you’ll continue to write about that, and I’m sure you will, and the more attention that’s brought to those kind of things the better. So thanks so much for the work you’ve been doing and taking the time to talk to me about it. I appreciate it.

    MM: Of course.

    GG: Thanks very much.

    [Transcript courtesy of Thames
    Valley Transcribe]

  • S

    msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#38099047

    i will give credit to msnbc for reporting this…the suicides and mental anxiety these poor people are enduring…

    …then there is a second clip…

    where is our govt?? O is MIA…

    this reminds me of watching a bit of MTP a few weeks ago and Gail Collins complaining that people are tired of the ‘oil spill’ story…these damn elitist creeps…

  • SHV

    all weekend I saw ’slice of life’ human interest clips on tv about what this is ACTUALLY doing to people’s lives and livilihoods and the enormous domino effect it is having on whole communities and the coastline…not to mention the assualt this is on our sea and land…this is the equivalent of a terrorist attack on our country…
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    And the vast majority of those people will get Zero $$ from the compensation fund.

  • turndownobama

    reporters threatened with felony convictions for showing oil in louisiana marshes
    “Georgianne Nienaber

    Haiti relief worker, investigative journalist, author

    The United States Coast Guard considers me a felon now, because I “willfully” want to obtain more photos like these to show you the utter devastation occurring in Barataria Bay, Louisiana as a result of the BP oil catastrophe. If the Coast Guard has its way, all media, not just independent writers and photographers like myself and Jerry Moran, will be fined $40,000 and receive Class D felony convictions for providing the truth about oiled birds and dolphins, in addition to broken, filthy, unmanned boom material that is trapping oil in the marshlands and estuaries. We don’t have $40,000 to spare, and have had to scrape the bottoms of our checkbooks as is to hire boats to take us to the devastation the Coast Guard, under the direction of BP, does not want you to see.”

    http://fubarandgrill.org/node/97

  • confloyd

    She tired of the oil spill story??? OMG, lets let the AA’s down there that are shrimpers, charter boat owners, restaurant/bar owners hear that. Oprah and her buddy just need to shut up.

  • confloyd

    S, I just can’t quit thinking about what Oprah’s friend Gail said. You know those two are into their African heritage, so you reckon the story is old is because no one cared about the nigerian oil spill, so they are making an example to America by saying that they don’t know what we really want Obama to do and we are tired of of this oil spill story, thereby dismissing it like america did in Nigeria. As far as they are considered American’s chickens have come to roast?
    This could be Obama’s real reason for slowing the process down and just not care and golf while this goes on?? Could be Obama thinks is OK, eye for an eye, and a oil spill for a oil spill. It fits his personality..what was one of the things he did as President…he sent back Churchilll’s bust…oil well for oil well…like he will stand with the Muslims/Africa???

  • wbboei

    I have been thinking about those ceo’s who were impressed with Obama, voted for Obama, and have since come to the realization that he is anti-business. I do not believe that bullshit for one moment. At some point in their career most CEO’s have had to make hiring and firing decisions. They did not get to where they are not knowing how to make such decisions. Indeed in this post industrial age where the world is changing under their feet, the only thing they have to rely on is their team. So when they hire somebody, the logical questions they ask are is the individual competent, will he or she work well with my team, and will they be loyal to me. Do you think they did not ask those questions to themselves about Barry? They knew up front that there was no there there. But that was fine with them because they thought they could control him. What they have since discovered, much to their chagrin, is even if you are a ceo, you cannot control a sociopath. That was their mistake.

  • turndownobama

    Lots of stories on the Gulf at Pumapac.

    http://pumapac.org/2010/07/03/saturday-open-thread-13/

  • basement angel

    The email about Muslims in Europe is rightwing, boiler plate bullshit. There are random facts that are true but the hysteria is pure right wing nonsense.

    Don’t be gullible. Europeans aren’t becoming Muslim. Women aren’t giving up their rights.

    Back away from stupid emails like that and you’ll participate in making this a better nation.

  • S

    Confloyd…to be fair…that was Gail Collins, the opinion writer at the New York Times…she appears on MTP once in awhile…she made that statement about two weeks ago…

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    no one can deny, this is Obama’s oil spill – completely on his watch…

    online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704699604575342843359124882.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

    Obama Decried, Then Used, Some Bush Drilling Policies

    Less than four months after President Barack Obama took office, his new administration received a forceful warning about the dangers of offshore oil drilling.

    The alarm was rung by a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., which found that the government was unprepared for a major spill at sea, relying on an “irrational” environmental analysis of the risks of offshore drilling.

    The April 2009 ruling stunned both the administration and the oil industry, and threatened to delay or cancel dozens of offshore projects in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico.

    Despite its pro-environment pledges, the Obama administration urged the court to revisit the decision. Politically, it needed to push ahead with conventional oil production while it expanded support for renewable energy.

    Risky Design

    See details on the designs of deepwater Gulf wells.

    More photos and interactive graphics

    Another reason: money. In its arguments to the court, the government said that the loss of royalties on the oil, estimated at almost $10 billion, “may have significant financial consequences for the federal government.”

    The U.S. Court of Appeals reversed its decision and allowed drilling in the Gulf to proceed—including on BP PLC’s now-infamous Macondo well, 50 miles off the Louisiana coast.

    The Obama administration’s actions in the court case exemplify the dilemma the White House faced in developing its energy policy. In his presidential campaign, President Obama criticized the Bush administration for being too soft on the oil industry and vowed to support greener energy forms.

    But, once in office, President Obama ended up backing offshore drilling, bowing to political and fiscal realties, even as his administration’s own scientists and Democratic lawmakers warned about its risks.

    After the Macondo well blew out, sinking the Deepwater Horizon rig and causing a catastrophic spill, Mr. Obama said his administration should have been more vigilant in handling the oil industry. “More needed to be done, and more needs to be done” to tighten oversight, he told reporters recently.

    Still, the administration defends its intervention in the court case, and says the ruling made it look more cautiously at whether to open new areas to offshore drilling. It pins blame on the Bush administration for pursuing a policy for deep-offshore drilling “that was driven by one principle: open everything,” said White House spokesman Ben LaBolt.

    Big Skimmer Hindered by Weather; Oil Hits Texas Libya Oil Chief Calls BP a Bargain Oil Spill Loan Rises to $9 Billion “Over the course of the year,” he said, “the Interior Department conducted a review process to produce an offshore strategy that closed a number of environmentally sensitive areas from exploration and put in place a process to explore where additional production could take place.” Since the Deepwater Horizon explosion, he added, “we are implementing top to bottom reforms to ensure that a disaster like this is never repeated.”

    Michel Olsen, a former official in the Bush Interior Department, defended the previous administration’s offshore approach. “Our policy was founded on the requirements of the law,” he said. “It wasn’t just to give industry whatever it wanted.”

    Mr. Obama inherited a slew of energy challenges when he took office in early 2009. The agency within the Interior Department charged with overseeing the oil and gas industry, the Minerals Management Service, was reeling from scandals. An inspector general’s report months earlier had described rigged contracts, drug use and sex between MMS employees and industry representatives.

    Along with cleaning up the MMS, Interior had to wrestle with a five-year drilling plan the Bush administration had filed just days before leaving office. The plan sought to open the waters in most of the U.S. outer-continental shelf to oil and gas exploration between 2010 and 2015. The push into ever deeper waters in the Gulf, which began in earnest in the mid-1990s, reflected the reality that drilling in shallower waters was largely tapped out.

    To buy time and work out its own policy preferences, the Obama administration reopened the Bush plan for public comment.

    The West Atlas oil rig on fire last November off Australia’s coast.
    The tensions in the administration’s own deliberations were clear from the start. Mr. Obama’s Interior secretary, Ken Salazar, quickly picked a fight with the oil industry when he retroactively withdrew 77 oil-and-gas lease sales in Utah that the Bush administration had approved in its final weeks. The move drew applause from environmentalists and criticism from oil companies.

    In April 2009, Mr. Salazar went on a four-city tour to discuss the nation’s offshore energy future. His first stop: A solar-powered convention center in Atlantic City, N.J., where he touted the potential of offshore wind power to supply clean electricity to the eastern seaboard. Boosting offshore renewable energy had become a “top priority” for Interior at the express wish of Mr. Salazar, who had issued a secretarial order to that effect just three weeks earlier.

    But, before the packed house of politicians, activists and interested citizens, Mr. Salazar also defended the need for more offshore oil and gas. “The reality is that we have oil and gas potential in significant ways, especially in” the Gulf of Mexico, he said, according to a video of the event.

    The administration was apprehensive about expanding offshore drilling. But it also hoped to get a legislative package on climate change through Congress. At the center of the bill was a controversial and potentially expensive provision requiring companies to acquire permits to release carbon dioxide.

    To navigate Capitol Hill, the administration needed to strike a balance between the “green energy” projects favored by environmentalists and liberals, and the traditional oil and gas projects favored by Republicans, whose support would be crucial in the Senate. Continuing to promote offshore drilling was part of that bargain.

    But the federal appeals court decision, which came just days after Mr. Salazar’s tour, threatened to throw a wrench in that process. The case was brought two years earlier by indigenous Alaskans and a coalition of environmental groups. It challenged a Bush-era plan to lease large chunks of offshore Alaska to oil drilling.

    The groups argued the strategy didn’t adequately account for the whole range of environmental perils raised by oil drilling on the outer shelf.

    The appeals court agreed, ruling that the federal program was based on “irrational” analysis. The government’s own assessment, the court found, weighed only the impact of oil washing up on shorelines. In a foreshadowing of the post-spill debate, the court noted that the analysis didn’t address the impact of a significant spill further out at sea.

    At first, Mr. Salazar used the ruling as a way to draw a distinction between his approach and that of the Bush White House. Blasting what he called “the previous administration’s failure to apply the law,” Mr. Salazar said in a statement that he planned to “fix the problems” the court identified. He would do so not by firing managers or shaking up MMS, but by subjecting offshore drilling to heightened scrutiny. Those fixes, he said, would “put oil and gas leasing decisions back on a firm scientific footing.”

    Still, the ruling presented an immediate problem. It threw into uncertainty hundreds of millions of dollars in drilling projects already under way in the Gulf—the source of about a third of the country’s domestic oil supply and the lifeblood of the regional economy. In addition, the government had another big lease sale for Gulf offshore acreage coming up in August.

    In its response, the government noted that the oil and gas from approved exploration and drilling projects had a combined value of $7.65 billion. Among the existing leases, the petition noted, was the March 2008 Lease Sale #206. That deal included BP’s acquisition, for $34 million, of the acreage encompassing the Macondo well.

    Voiding existing leases, the Justice Department argued on behalf of Interior, would cause “severe and unnecessary disruptions” to oil and gas activity in the Gulf of Mexico, and could push companies and drilling rigs toward other nations with less onerous regulations.

    A day after the administration’s petition, the industry’s main lobbying group, the American Petroleum Institute, made its own case echoing the government’s arguments. “The significance of [Gulf of Mexico] activities under the five-year program cannot be overstated,” the API argued.

    In late July, the D.C. appeals court responded to the government petition by clarifying its earlier ruling. Only drilling in Alaska, the case’s main focus, would be stopped. Activity in the Gulf of Mexico could continue while the administration carried out a new environmental analysis to address the court’s concerns about deep-water spills.

    In February, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, left, toured Nantucket Sound for a proposed offshore wind energy project.

    Mr. Salazar began to express confidence that he had resolved the problems within the Minerals Management Service that had led to poor oversight of offshore drilling. In September, in testimony before the House Natural Resources Committee, he listed the steps he had taken to make sure ethical lapses “don’t occur in the future.”

    Still, inside the administration there was debate about the right policy for offshore drilling.

    On Sept. 21, Jane Lubchenco, Mr. Obama’s handpicked head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, filed a lengthy comment on the Bush-era drilling plan still under review. She cited several concerns, including the government’s tendency to underestimate the likelihood of oil spills and to downplay their potential environmental impacts. She also noted the government’s penchant for cribbing from older, often outdated, environmental analyses.

    She cited a Congressional Research Service study from earlier in the year. “The threat of oil spills raises the question,” the report said, “of whether U.S. officials have the necessary resources at hand to respond to a major spill.”

    The administration’s struggle to find middle ground on its offshore policy came to a head in Senate hearings in mid-November, just weeks after a drilling rig off the coast of Australia had suffered a deepwater blowout, creating an oil leak that would go on for months.

    Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) pointed to an enlarged photo of the Australian rig in flames and asked rhetorically whether he was “just being old-fashioned” to worry that a similar blowout could occur in the U.S.

    Heard on the Street
    BP May Need Radical Rethink MMS Deputy Director Walter Cruickshank assured the panel that such fears were misplaced. The Australian rig wouldn’t have been licensed to operate in U.S. waters, he said. The U.S., he said, had “what we believe is the most aggressive oil spill contingency planning…in the world.”

    On March 31, Mr. Salazar joined President Obama in a hangar at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland to announce their new offshore policy. Standing before an F-18 “Green Hornet” fighter jet designed to run partly on bio-fuel, Mr. Obama told the audience that “we’ll employ new technologies that reduce the impact of oil exploration…And we’ll be guided not by political ideology, but by scientific evidence.”

    The plan was designed in part to allay the federal court’s concerns. To satisfy the court’s demand for better “balance,” it included a broader environmental analysis, examining the impact of spilled oil on marine life and not just on shorelines.

    It also ranked prospective drilling areas in terms of their environmental sensitivity. The Central Gulf of Mexico, where BP’s Macondo well was based, topped the “most sensitive” column. It also scrapped a handful of planned lease sales in Alaska.

    But the proposal kept much of the Bush plan intact, and even added for the first time new lease sales off the coast of Virginia.

    It also relied extensively on environmental impact analyses carried out in April 2007 that the court had found wanting.

    The 2007 document said “large oil spills associated with [outer continental shelf] activities are low-probability events.” The “most likely size” of a serious spill, that report concluded, would total 4,600 barrels—a fraction of what the Deepwater Horizon continues to allow into the water every day.

    Kieran Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, which brought the original lawsuit, said their court victory wound up changing little. “Salazar, and by extension Obama, have pursued the same offshore program as the Bush administration, even while playing a smoke-and-mirrors game,” he said.

    Two weeks before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, President Obama offered a plug for wider offshore exploration. “Oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills,” he told a gathering in Charlotte, N.C. “They are technologically very advanced.”

    On April 20, with the blowout on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, everything changed.

    The Macondo spill has forced the administration to take many of the steps it dismissed as draconian last summer in the wake of the appeals court ruling. On May 27, Mr. Salazar canceled a lease sale in the Gulf set for August. He ordered that all lease sales set for 2011 had to face tougher environmental scrutiny.

    And he ordered a six-month moratorium on all drilling activity in the Gulf of Mexico. That moratorium was struck down as arbitrary by a federal judge in New Orleans in June, but Mr. Salazar has fought back, insisting the moratorium remain in place. So far the judge’s ruling stands.

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    no wonder O tried to detach from this story at the beginning and now never mentions it…he knows they are neck deep in this mess…they could have stopped it, but they gambled with the oil companies and the gulf…and the gulf lost…and the American people along with it…

  • Shadowfax

    turndownobama
    July 6th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    reporters threatened with felony convictions for showing oil in louisiana marshes
    “Georgianne Nienaber
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    This information that BP is trying to hide must get out to the public as much as possible.
    Huffpuff had and article on their site that if the fix to the spill, by drilling to intersecting pipes to fill the hole doesn’t work, the gusher could go on for 2 years.

    My prediction is the gusher is much worse than the public imagines and BP is afraid (cost) for American’s to know how bad things are under the water line.
    I think within a month, thousands of dead animals and fish will be seen, coming to the top or on shores.
    I curse BP and all the killing they are doing in the Gulf.

  • Carol

    basement angel
    July 6th, 2010 at 2:06 am

    Do you have any data to back up your claims?

    I have read the numbers on Muslims in Europe from many varied sources. I have read reports of the violence,etc.

  • ABM90

    Our real President gets things accomplished with heads of states and prime ministers while the black panthers hunt for his balls (golf)and protect his others if there are any.

    Where is Hillary? Easy answer.

    Secretary Clinton: Travel to Ukraine, Poland, Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia

    July 1, 2010 to July 5, 2010

    Travels With
    Secretary of State
    Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Interactive Travel Map | Photos | Text the Secretary a Question About the Trip

    In Kyiv, Secretary Clinton opened the second meeting of the Strategic Partnership Commission and met with government officials, including President Yanukovych and Foreign Minister Gryshchenko, and with civil society and independent media leaders. In Krakow, Secretary Clinton participated in the celebration of the 10th anniversary of the founding of the Community of Democracies, an organization initiated by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and her Polish counterpart Bronislaw Geremek in 2000. Secretary Clinton also met with Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski.

    The Secretary continued on to Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia, where she held meetings with government officials and civil society leaders to discuss bilateral issues, as well as issues related to regional peace and stability.

    Remarks
    07/05/2010 Remarks at Meeting With Staff and Families of Embassy Tbilisi
    07/05/2010 Joint Press Availability With Georgian President Saakashvili
    07/05/2010 Remarks at a Town Hall With Georgian Women Leaders
    07/05/2010 Remarks at a Reception With Armenian Civil Society Leaders
    07/05/2010 Joint Press Availability With Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandyan
    07/05/2010 Remarks at Meeting With Staff and Families of Embassy Yerevan
    07/04/2010 Remarks at the Top of Her Meeting With President Sargsian
    07/04/2010 Joint Press Availability With Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Mammadyarov
    07/04/2010 Opening Remarks at a Roundtable With Azerbaijani Civil Society and Youth Leaders
    07/04/2010 Remarks at Meeting With the Staff and Families of Embassy Baku
    07/04/2010 Remarks at the Top of Bilateral Meeting With President Aliyev of Azerbaijan
    07/03/2010 “Civil Society: Supporting Democracy in the 21st Century,” at the Community of Democracies
    07/03/2010 Remarks at Meeting With Staff and Families of Consulate Krakow
    07/03/2010 Remarks at the Schindler Factory Museum and Announcement of U.S. Contribution to Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation
    07/03/2010 U.S.-Poland Bilateral Missile Defense Signing and Joint Press Availability With Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski
    07/02/2010 Remarks At the Embassy Meeting at the Intercontinental Hotel
    07/02/2010 Town Hall at Kyiv Polytechnic Institute
    07/02/2010 Remarks at the Closing of the Strategic Partnership Commission
    07/02/2010 Remarks with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kostyantyn Gryshchenko
    07/02/2010 Remarks with Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych
    06/29/2010 Special Briefing on the Secretary’s Upcoming Travel
    06/25/2010 Secretary Clinton to Travel to Kyiv, Krakow, Baku, Yerevan, and Tbilisi

    Other Releases
    07/03/2010 Protocol Amending the Ballistic Missile Defense Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Poland
    07/03/2010 Joint Statement of Secretary Clinton and Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski
    07/03/2010 Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation Announcement
    07/03/2010 Joint Statement of the Second Session of the United States-Ukraine Strategic Partnership Commission

  • JanH

    Tuesday July 06, 2010

    Clinton Concludes ‘Reassurance’ Tour of Russia’s Neighbors

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has concluded a five-day, five-country tour of Eastern Europe and the South Caucasus meant to impart a critical message: we haven’t forgotten you.

    On July 2 in Ukraine, Clinton told Ukrainians they could “count on the support and friendship of the United States” as they “chart your own course toward your own future.”

    And two days later in Azerbaijan, she said Washington was “committed to helping you and your fellow citizens build a prosperous, independent, democratic, sovereign Azerbaijan.”

    And closing out her trip on July 5 in Georgia, Clinton pledged to “do everything we can to assist our partners, inside and outside the Georgian government, as they strive to strengthen democratic institutions and processes.”

    With her repeated vows of support, Clinton appeared to be attempting what could be called a “readjustment to the ‘reset’” — a pledge that the United States could be friends with Russia without abandoning its smaller allies in the region.

    Chiding Moscow

    It’s a delicate balancing act. Clinton — who lashed out at Russia’s “occupation” of Georgia’s breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and signed a deal with Polish officials on a missile-defense shield that has raised Kremlin hackles — has already provoked an angry response from Moscow.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry today dismissed the U.S. defense shield — a plan Washington says will protect its European allies from Iranian missiles — as unfounded.

    And on July 5 Prime Minister Vladimir Putin defended his country’s role in “liberating” South Ossetia in the August 2008 war. He also chided Georgian officials about turning to outsiders for help in what he said was essentially a bilateral issue.

    “Some believe that it has been occupied, but others think that it has been liberated,” Putin said. “It is the subject of dialogue between the Georgian people and the South Ossetian people and they should conduct this dialogue without referring to third parties.”

    Warmer Abroad

    Despite the heated rhetoric, however, ties between Washington and Moscow have grown unmistakably warmer during the past year. Moreover, ties between Moscow and many of its former satellites have warmed as well.

    Ukraine, which this year elected Viktor Yanukovych to the presidency, is no longer the bastion of anti-Moscow opposition it was under Viktor Yushchenko. Poland, after years of rabble-rousing against Russia’s resurgent authority, has likewise cooled its resentment in favor of friendly dialogue.

    And oil-rich Azerbaijan, whose ties to Washington have soured over U.S. attempts to forge a Turkish-Armenian reconciliation, has turned to Moscow as its preferred mediator in its prolonged impasse with Yerevan over Nagorno-Karabakh.

    In each of these countries, Clinton’s mission was to reestablish a channel for dialogue with the United States that runs more parallel than counter to Moscow’s own.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/Clinton_Concludes_Reassurance_Tour_of_Russias_Neighbors/2092434.html

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    and obama went golfing…

  • ShortTermer

    Carol, I googled muslims in europe and got innumerable hits. I am concerned that we may be playing ostrich on the subject. My biggest question centered around WHY in the world anyone would disrespect the NY citizens, and American citiznes, by wanting to build a muslim mosque at or near ground zero; it seems like they were in our face to see what our reactions would be. Thank you for your comment above asking for backup of that offensive statement.

  • S

    confloyd…to be fair upthread, the Gail Collins I mentioned is an opinion writer for the NYT
    I tried posting that last night with another article and I guess somehow it got swallowed up…

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    could not have said this better myself…

    politics.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2010/07/02/mort-zuckerman-obama-is-barely-treading-water.html?PageNr=1

    The hope that fired up the election of Barack Obama has flickered out, leaving a national mood of despair and disappointment. Americans are dispirited over how wrong things are and uncertain they can be made right again. Hope may have been a quick breakfast, but it has proved a poor supper. A year and a half ago Obama was walking on water. Today he is barely treading water. Then, his soaring rhetoric enraptured the nation. Today, his speeches cannot lift him past a 45 percent approval rating.

    There is a widespread feeling that the government doesn’t work, that it is incapable of solving America’s problems. Americans are fed up with Washington, fed up with Wall Street, fed up with the necessary but ill-conceived stimulus program, fed up with the misdirected healthcare program, and with pretty much everything else. They are outraged and feel that the system is not a level playing field, but is tilted against them. The millions of unemployed feel abandoned by the president, by the Democratic Congress, and by the Republicans.

    The American people wanted change, and who could blame them? But now there is no change they can believe in. Sixty-two percent believe we are headed in the wrong direction­—a record during this administration. All the polls indicate that anti-Washington, anti-incumbent sentiment is greater than it has been in many years. For the first time, Obama’s disapproval rating has topped his approval rating. In a recent CBS News poll, there is a meager 15 percent approval rating for Congress. In all polls, voters who call themselves independents have swung against the administration and against incumbents.

    Even some in Obama’s base have turned, with 17 percent of Democrats disapproving of his job performance. Even more telling is the excitement gap. Only 44 percent of those who voted for him express high interest in this year’s elections. That’s a 38-point drop from 2008. By contrast, 71 percent of those who voted Republican last time express high interest in the midterm elections, above the level at this stage in 2008. And these are the people who vote.

    Republicans are benefiting not because they have a credible or popular program—they don’t—but because they are not Democrats. In a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, nearly two thirds of those who favor Republican control of Congress say they are motivated primarily by opposition to Obama and Democratic policy. Disapproval of Congress is so widespread, a recent Gallup poll suggests, that by a margin of almost two to one, Americans would rather vote for a candidate with no experience than for an incumbent. Throw the bums out is the mood. How could this have happened so quickly?

    The fundamental problem is starkly simple: jobs and the deepening fear among the public that the American dream is vanishing before their eyes. The economy’s erratic improvement has helped Wall Street but has brought little support to Main Street. Some 6.8 million people have been unemployed in the last year for six months or longer. Their valuable skills are at risk, affecting their economic productivity for years to come. Add to this despairing army the large number of those only partially employed and those who have given up their search for work, and we have cumulative totals in the tens of millions.

    Many people who joined the middle class, especially those who joined in the last few years, have now fallen back. It’s not over yet. Millions cannot make minimum payments on their credit cards, or are in default or foreclosure on their mortgages, or are on food stamps. Well over 100,000 people file for bankruptcy every month. Some 3 million homeowners are estimated to face foreclosure this year, on top of 2.8 million last year. Millions of homes are located next to or near a foreclosed home, and it is the latter that may determine the price of all the homes on the street. There have been dramatically sharp declines in home equity, representing cumulative losses in the trillions of dollars in what has long been the largest asset on the average American family’s balance sheet. Most of those who lost their homes are hard-working, middle-class Americans who had lost their jobs. Now many have to use credit cards to pay for essentials and make ends meet, and they are running out of credit. Another $5 trillion has been lost from pensions and savings.

    But it is jobs that have long represented the stairway to upward mobility in America. For a long time, it was feared they were vulnerable to offshore competition (and indeed still are), but now the erosion is from economic decline at home. What happens as those domestic opportunities recede? Middle-class families fear they have become downwardly mobile and have not hit the bottom yet. The financial security that was once based on home equity and a pension has been swept away.

    In a survey just released, the Pew Research Center explored the recession’s impact on households and how they are changing their spending and saving behavior. Nearly half the adults polled intend to boost their savings, cut their discretionary budgets, and cut their debt loads. The report concludes that the present enforced frugality will outlast the recession and its overhang. Fully 60 percent of those ages 50 to 61 say they may delay retirement. What does that mean for the young would-be employees entering the labor force over the next few years?

    The administration’s stimulus program, because of the way Congress put it together, has created far fewer jobs than anyone expected given the huge price tag of almost $800 billion. It was supposed to constrain unemployment at 8 percent, but the recession took the rate way above that and in the process humbled the Obama presidency. Some 25 million jobless or underemployed people now wish to work full time, but few companies are ready to hire. No speech is going to change that.

    Little wonder there has been a gradual public disillusionment. Little wonder people have come alive to the issue of excess spending with entitlements out of control as far as the eye can see. The hope was that Obama would focus on the economy and jobs. That was the number one issue for the public—not healthcare. Yet the president spent almost a year on a healthcare bill. Eighty-five percent in one poll thought the great healthcare crisis was about cost. It was and is, but the president’s bill was about extending coverage. It did nothing about the first concern and focused mostly on the second. Even worse, to win its approval he accepted the kind of scratch-my-back deal-making that suggests corruption in the political process. And as a result, Obama’s promise to change “politics as usual” disappeared.

    The president failed to communicate the value of what he wants to communicate. To a significant number of Americans, what came across was a new president trying to do too much in a hurry and, at the same time, radically change the equation of American life in favor of too much government. This feeling is intensified by Obama’s emotional distance from the public. He conveys a coolness and detachment that limits the number of people who feel connected to him.

    Americans today strongly support a pro-growth economic agenda that includes fiscal discipline, limited government, and deficit reduction. They fear the country is coming apart, while the novelty of Obama has worn off, along with the power of his position as the non-Bush. His decline in popularity has emboldened the opposition to try to block him at every turn.

    Historically, presidents with approval ratings below 50 percent—Obama is at 45—lose an average of 41 House seats in midterm elections. This year, that would return the House of Representatives to Republican control. The Democrats will suffer disproportionately from a climate in which so many Americans are either dissatisfied or angry with the government, for Democrats are in the large majority in both houses and have to defend many more districts than Republicans. In any election year, voters’ feelings typically settle in by June. But now they are being further hardened by the loose regulation that preceded the poisonous oil spill—and the tardy government response.

    The promise of economic health that might salvage industries and jobs, and provide a safety net, has proved illusory. The support for cutting spending and cutting the deficit reflects in part the fact that the American public feels the Obama-Congress spending program has not worked. As for the healthcare reform bill, the most recent Rasmussen survey indicates that 52 percent of the electorate supports repeal of the measure—42 percent of them strongly.

    It is clear that the magical moment of Obama’s campaign conveyed a spell that is now broken in the context of the growing public disillusionment. Obama’s rise has been spectacular, but so too has been his fall.

  • wbboei

    For all the hand ringing we see over the subject, I wonder what the percentage of muslims is today in Western Europe. I suspect it is about 20%. I also suspect that the population growth within that demographic is high whereas the population growth in the traditional population is in the negative range. And that, I suspect is the problem.

    In the United States I suspect it is half that amount? Again I do not know. What I do know, or have at least heard, is that Obama wants to bring millions of them here to this country. I do not know his plan or how many have come over thus far. Under the Bush Administration Eagleburger did alot of that with other groups without public knowledge.

    The point I guess is that during the last thirty years, the elites have uses immigration policy as a bartering chip in international relations. During the Kennedy era, they brought over thousands of white Russian refugees who were dispossessed of their holdings in the Ukraine, placed in working camps, fled to Hong Kong after the war, emigrated to Brazil and from there with the blessing of JFK and Alaska officials to Anchor Point Katchemak Bay south of Anchorage. They have their own town, practice there own customs and are resistant to outsiders. At one time, I had the job of trying to collect money from them. They were elusive, but then again with Stalin on your heels, you learn to adopt.

  • JanH

    I disagree completely that the rise of the Muslim population in Europe is a non-issue and nothing to worry about.

    When you look at the rise in extreme hate crimes, rioting, mobbing, not to mention ties to terrorism and money laundering, and then look at how obama is trying to appease this group as well, there is definitely a problem.

    I am not lumping all Muslims as terrorists, but there are groups within who have unholy goals.

  • wbboei

    A very interesting clip on the history of the zeplin. They were prevalent for 40 years prior to the Hindenberg disaster, and the US Navy had a lighter than air group who operated one or more of them. Their rise and fall are similar in some respects to the political fortunes of Mr. Obama–elation, disaster, sober reappraisal. The video tells us they have been reintroduced. The symbolism there for me is Hillary in 3012. Even if you cannot make the connections here that I do, I think you will agree this is a beautiful video, and for those of that generation not unlike the experience of going into space.

    http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=cp7x7pxkP7E&feature=related

  • wbboei

    2012==I cannot see the keyboard

  • wbboei

    The other interesting thing is the zeppelin was billed as the pride of Nazi Germany, yet Goering had no use for them, and the program was abandoned after the disaster. Perhaps that is because the program began long before Hitler took power and the head of the program, a world renowned figure, was strongly anti-Nazi.

  • wbboei

    I disagree completely that the rise of the Muslim population in Europe is a non-issue and nothing to worry about.

    When you look at the rise in extreme hate crimes, rioting, mobbing, not to mention ties to terrorism and money laundering, and then look at how obama is trying to appease this group as well, there is definitely a problem.

    I am not lumping all Muslims as terrorists, but there are groups within who have unholy goals.
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    I understand what you mean. I do not intend to be dismissive of the issue. There are reasons for the hand ringing, as you point out. These incidents are serious in and of themselves since they can result in a loss of life. Moreover, in the age of dirty bombs, and biological warfare they must be taken seriously. And I have no doubt they are as police matters.

    But I suspect the cause in fact among European leaders is less a matter of possible terrorism, and more a matter of the loss of ethnic Europe from an invasion. That battle is one they have been fighting for a thousand years. On one level it can be characterized as discrimination, whereas on another level it can be thought of as a matter of survival of a European identity. If you asked Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Institute I have no doubt that he would claim it was the former, whereas if you asked the average European in places like France I believe you might get a different answer.

  • JanH

    wbboei,

    It is indeed also a matter of preserving the European identity. Taken as a whole, do you see this becoming an American issue at some point?

  • JanH

    What I meant to ask was whether you have seen this issue take flight in the U.S. since obama came to power.

  • wbboei

    Yes Jan. That is part of what this fight is about. National identity is important. It is part of what defines us as unique individuals in a world of 6 billion people. Clearly, it is one of impediments to globalists like Soros with his mission to collapse borders and institute a common world language. Even Tom Friedman, a self acknowledged globalist in his own right will concede that much. As for Morris Dees, he has done what people like him always do. They do not rest on their laurels they move on to new frontiers so they can keep their enterprise going. The NAACP is that way too. And so is the NRA/

  • wbboei

    http://buzzroom.nasa.gov/multimedia/videos/351/

    Unbelievable. Notice his mawkish comments about Obama. A saccarine light ass kisser.

  • wbboei

    Posted by Moe Lane (Profile)
    Tuesday, July 6th at 7:17AM EDT

    (The Dimocrats are) widely hated, directly responsible for some appalling legislation, mistrusted on most of the topics of the day, completely outclassed when it comes to partisan enthusiasm, long since lost the independent vote, beholden to the smallest ideological faction in American politics, reliant on voting demographics that show no sign of coming out in 2010, and largely fighting in territory that rightfully belongs to the GOP. The combined total of all of this should translate quite handily into a 2010 shellacking for the Democratic party, much to their displeasure, ire, and outrage.–Moe Lane.

    Comment: the only thing I would add to Moe’s comments is that Obama’s rating is below 50%, Congress (which they control) rating is 20%, and we are on the brink of a depression. Yes, Obama promised change and he took us from bad to worse. And the psuedo intellectual rubes fell for it.

  • JanH

    ‘We’re committed to peace’
    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    06/07/2010

    PM calls for direct talks with Palestinians in White House meeting, Obama commends Israel on new Gaza policy, calls US-Israel relationship an “extraordinary friendship.”

    Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu entered the White House to meet with US President Barack Obama on Tuesday afternoon.

    “We’re committed to peace, I’m committed to peace,” Netanyahu said. However, the Prime Minister pointed out that Israel wants security after a peace agreement, saying that the withdrawal from Gaza did not bring that.

    “Peace is the best option,” Netanyahu declared.

    Netanyahu said that, in order to accomplish this goal, “Abbas and I need to move to direct talks.”

    “I believe the prime minister wants peace, two states living side-by-side in peace and security” Obama said. “We expect the proximity talks to lead to direct talks, and there will be a set of confidence-building measures.”

    Obama called the meeting “one more step in the extraordinary friendship between the US and Israel, which has grown closer and closer as time goes on.”

    Netanyahu will brought a detailed list of goods Israel will not allow into the Gaza Strip. The “negative” list, defines what is prohibited rather than what is permitted, thus allowing more goods in. In reaction to the list’s unveiling on Monday, the US called it an “important step.”

    The Jerusalem Post also learned of a proposal in whicht Obama would hint at the US accepting Israeli control over the major settlement blocs, and Netanyahu would say that he would extend the settlement freeze in the West Bank in all areas outside of those blocs.

    This proposal would mean that Obama accepts former US president George W. Bush’s 2004 agreement with then-prime minister Ariel Sharon. The agreement is thought to have led to the 2005 disengagement from Gaza.

    Protest at the US consulate

    About 30 members of the activities committee of the Binyamin and Shomron Council protested outside the US Consulate in Jerusalem on Tuesday as Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu met with US President Barack Obama in Washington.

    The protesters called on Netanayhu not to extend the ten month moratorium on construction in West Bank settlements that is scheduled to end in September.

    Protesters held up signs with slogans such as “Bibi is trampling the settlements” at the demonstartion.

    http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=180618

  • JanH

    Obama Says Netanyahu Will Take ‘Risks for Peace’

    July 06, 2010
    By Jonathan Ferziger

    July 6 (Bloomberg) — President Barack Obama said today he believes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will take “risks for peace” with the Palestinians as the two leaders met at the White House.

    Obama described U.S.-Israeli ties as an “unbreakable” bond in remarks to reporters in the Oval Office after a discussion with Netanyahu that he called “excellent.”

    “The U.S. will never ask Israel to take risks that would undermine its security,” Obama said.

    Obama has been trying to prod Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to engage in direct peace negotiations following the indirect talks they have been conducting through U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell.

    “Israelis are prepared to do a lot for peace but they want to make sure” no threat emerges such as the 2007 seizure of the Gaza Strip by Hamas, Netanyahu said after the meeting with Obama. The Islamic movement rejects Israel’s right to exist and has fired hundreds of rockets at Israeli communities. The attacks prompted a military offensive by Israel on Gaza in December 2008.

    Abbas, who visited Obama at the White House June 9, has ruled out moving from the so-called proximity talks to direct negotiations unless Israel halts all settlement construction in the West Bank. A partial freeze that Netanyahu, 60, initiated in November is set to expire Sept. 26, and settler leaders have vowed to start building again immediately.

    Obama said today he expects direct talks will begin before the moratorium runs out. Israel ruled out an extension today.

    ‘No Chance’

    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said there was “no chance” Israel will extend a partial freeze on West Bank construction.

    “It is important that direct talks resume and the government supports this but will not agree to pay for this,” Lieberman said in comments sent from Helsinki by text message.

    Obama and Netanyahu also conferred on what they say is the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran. Netanyahu praised sanctions that Obama signed into law last week, targeting Iranian gasoline imports and banking access, as measures that “bite.”

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-06/obama-says-netanyahu-will-take-risks-for-peace-.html

  • wbboei

    Big Media has an ugly habit of identifying the age of certain people they write about and ignoring it with those people they seek to protect. How many times did we see Hillary identified as Hillary Clinton, 60. See above the reference to Bibi is 60. But have you ever seen a reference to Obama, 48? This is age discrimination by our beloved big media. And why not. Experience has shown they practice every other form of discrimination from race to gender when it serves their agenda, while pretending to deplore it at all other times.

  • wbboei

    In a business where they are forever editing to eliminate useless words because space on a page or time on the air cannot be wasted, they continue to tie certain individuals and not others to their age when it is older than the mean. This is purposeful not superfluous.

  • Shadowfax

    S
    July 6th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    …excuse the length of the following but it is sickening how the MSM and O’s WH are avoiding this story of utter destruction…our country is literally dying…

    …take note of what the conservationist says re: the chemicals being poured into the water…who knows what this holds for the future and the health of the people and living creatures…

    Glenn Greenwald: My guest today on Salon Radio is Mac McClelland, who is a reporter for Mother Jones,

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    Thank you for posting this article. I guess it helps to explain the question that was raised on the blog a week or so ago, “Where are the environmentalists?”

    S
    We have plenty of heroes out there, but most of them are just ‘little people’, and if not shown on local or cable news, we never hear of them…

  • Fifth Dimension

    Had CNN on in the background while making lunch. They just reported that the lawsuit challenging Arizona’s immigration law has been filed.

  • Shadowfax

    Fifth Dimension

    Had CNN on in the background while making lunch. They just reported that the lawsuit challenging Arizona’s immigration law has been filed.
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    PHOENIX (AP) — The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona’s new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and the state over the nation’s toughest immigration crackdown.

    The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Phoenix argues that Arizona’s law requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws such as traffic violations usurps federal authority.

    “In our constitutional system, the federal government has pre-eminent authority to regulate immigration matters,” the lawsuit says. “This authority derives from the United States Constitution and numerous acts of Congress. The nation’s immigration laws reflect a careful and considered balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests.”

    The government is seeking an injunction to delay the July 29 implementation of the law until the case is resolved. It ultimately wants the law declared invalid.

    more…

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IMMIGRATION_ENFORCEMENT_LAWSUIT?SITE=ALOPE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

  • S

    Shadowfax, I agree there are many heroes out there who do not get the recognition they deserve…however with the enormity of this disaster – ‘they’ ‘we’ need a spokesperson on the national level…for awhile Carville was doing a good job, but now he seems mute…or in the background again…but what he was doing is what is needed…a loud, blunt voice shouting out the reality of what is going on…and a strong true blue democrat would be great…

    Carville was really the only strong voice I can think of that was screaming out aloud…something…someone seems to have gotten to even him…

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    fifth dimension…can you imagine…a president, instead of going to the state and reasoning with the authorities and hearing and seeing for himself what they have to say…instead we have O, suing the state…I hope the courts rebuff him big time…
    what a waste of money and a hostile act against the citizens of arizona…

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    the O admin and his ‘justice’ dept did not seem to have any problem letting the ‘new’ black panthers off the hook for intimidating citizens at the voting booth…

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    O gets worse and worse every day…now even the teacher’s unions have been thrown under the bus…and are retaliating…too little, too late…

    Teachers’ Union President: ‘This is not the change I hoped for.’ (Video)

    No one from the Obama Administration was scheduled to speak at either of this year’s conventions held by the two national teachers’ unions. That would be because Obama and Company did not want to endure the embarrassment of being heckled by the Democratic Party supporting organizations.

    The largest union’s meeting opened here on Saturday to a drumbeat of heated rhetoric, with several speakers calling for Mr. Duncan’s resignation, hooting delegates voting for a resolution criticizing federal programs for “undermining public education,” and the union’s president summing up 18 months of Obama education policies by saying, “This is not the change I hoped for.”

    “Today our members face the most anti-educator, anti-union, anti-student environment I have ever experienced.”

    – Dennis Van Roekel,
    National Education Association (NEA), President

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    that’s right…”not the change anyone hoped for”

  • turndownobama

    S
    July 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Shadowfax, I agree there are many heroes out there who do not get the recognition they deserve…however with the enormity of this disaster – ‘they’ ‘we’ need a spokesperson on the national level…for awhile Carville was doing a good job, but now he seems mute

    =====================

    More likely ‘muted’ — ie the media have stopped broadcasting whatever he is saying.

    Just because someone isn’t getting media coverage — doesn’t mean HE has weakened. (Remember when Hillary gave a major foreign policy speech — and NO media covered it?)

  • wbboei

    No injunction should issue. The statute is the mirror image of the federal law. Can a State which is responsible for the welfare of its citizens not enforce a federal law where the federal government, for reasons which are largely political, refuses to do so? The State of Arizona acted to prevent harm to its citizens. The State of Arizona acted only after the federal government refused repeated requests to do its job. Given the public statements of Mr Obama on why he refuses to secure the border, the motives of the federal government are highly suspect. For an injunction issue, the moving party must establish that irreparable harm would occur if it was not issued. In this case the law which the government seeks to enjoin was enacted to prevent irreparable harm to its citizens, and the issuance of an injunction against its implementation would surely engender the kind of harm which the injunction statute is intended to prevent. No injunction should issue.

  • wbboei

    A state statute that incorporates a federal mandate would be a better way to put it.

  • wbboei

    A nice take-down of embedded hillary hater and NYT spokesperson maureen dowd. Somerby’s closing comments say it all: “Dowd may be the dumbest person on earth. She is clearly one of the sickest. By the rules of the guild, Brooks was restricted from naming her name. But liberal “leaders”—editors of “liberal journals”—have also deferred to this screaming nut-cake over the past twenty. years.”
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    Daily Howler
    THE UNTOUCHABLE MAUREEN DOWD! Dowd is a cancer on the nation. What haven’t “liberals” said so?

    Special report: How we got here!

    Read each thrilling installment: David Brooks described a broken press culture. How in the world did we get here?

    PART 1: Journalists never trash the press—but last Friday, David Brooks did. See THE DAILY HOWLER, 6/28/10.

    PART 2: Brooks mentioned cable TV and the Net—but he skipped past Lady Dowd. See THE DAILY HOWLER, 6/30/10.

    PART 3: David Brooks had 800 words. A great deal was left unsaid. See THE DAILY HOWLER, 7/2/10.

    In today’s final installment, we review an untouchable—Dowd.

    PART 4—THE UNTOUCHABLE MAUREEN DOWD (permalink): How did we ever reach the point where our journalism is all about trivia? Where “the least important” topics prevail?

    By the rules of the game, David Brooks couldn’t name Maureen Dowd when he considered this problem. (He doesn’t name Paul Krugman today.) But over the course of the past twenty years, major liberals and “liberal journals” have never gone after Dowd either.

    No other print journalist has played such a major role in taking our discourse to a dim, dumb place. But have you ever seen a “liberal journal” criticize Dowd for her squalor?

    What have “liberals” bought with this silence? Consider the insolence and sheer stupidity of Sunday’s column by Dowd, in which she continues to reinvent our political history—in a way which air-brushes endless misconduct by herself and her high crowd.

    For her main topic, Dowd lets us know that she loved Dracula when she was a teen. (No big surprise there.) But before she takes us to that place, she offers her latest absurd review of recent political history.

    How did George W. Bush reach the White House? Imploring the world to fly its freak flags, the lady was clowning again:

    DOWD (7/4/10): On this Independence Day, if you’re passionate about it—even (or especially) if no one else is—let your freak flag fly.

    Al Gore would probably have gotten to be president if he hadn’t let his campaign mercenaries talk him out of a full-throated zeal on the subject he was most passionate about, the one topic that snapped him out of his wooden mien: the environment.

    His hired guns in the 2000 race advised him that if he droned on about the environment, he would come across as a tedious tree-hugger. It wasn’t considered a sexy issue at that point.

    Later, when “An Inconvenient Truth,” his slide show that left jaded Washingtonians bored, became a hit—the movie won two Oscars and Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize—he no doubt realized he should have stuck with his passion when he campaigned.

    From the time I was small, I had a passion that many others found strange.

    The sub-text here is predictable: I was smart enough to be myself. Dumb-bell Gore was not! Requisite self-glorification to the side, let’s examine Dowd’s clownish, self-serving attempt to re-imagine our history.

    As a candidate, should Gore have discussed the environment more? Would it have helped him garner more votes? There’s no real way to answer that question. This explains why such ruminations are pleasing to dim-wits like Dowd.

    But one fact is abundantly clear: If Gore had discussed the environment more, Dowd and her colleagues would have ridiculed him for it. Consider the way the mainstream press corps—and Dowd herself—behaved during Campaign 2000.

    The New York Times in the balance: Simply put, Candidate Gore was ridiculed for his environmentalism at the New York Times. By now, his best-selling 1992 book, Earth in the Balance, was being described at our greatest newspaper as his “mid-life crisis book.” That specific phrase was penned by reporter Robin Toner, who was merely “reporting” that the book “is widely considered to be Mr. Gore’s mid-life crisis book.” (So considered by whom? Toner didn’t say.) But the notion that Earth in the Balance involved a “mid-life crisis” was expressed at least five separate times by Times writers during this campaign, starting with Michiko Kakutani’s mocking, front-page treatment of the book in December 1999. (Kakutani’s treatment of the book may be the most propagandistic “review” of a book ever committed to print.) Presumably, this mockery would have been heightened had Gore discussed the environment more.

    The RNC and the mainstream press: Starting in the spring of 1999, the RNC began pimping a baldly dishonest claim about Gore’s very kooky book: Al Gore has advocated eliminating the automobile! This claim was always baldly moronic. But go ahead! Try to find a single instance in which a mainstream reporter or opinion writer discussed this obvious fact. On Crossfire, Robert Novak pimped the theme, Bill Press fumbled and failed.

    The war over Michigan: By the fall of 2000, Lee Iacocca was starring in Michigan TV ads, further asserting this ludicrous theme ands headlining the Republican effort in this pivotal state. Gore ended up winning Michigan. But go ahead! Try to find the mainstream journalist who pushed back against this drive.

    Simple story: Gore was frequently ridiculed for his environmentalism during Campaign 2000. How did Lady Dowd react? The lady could have written about these topics, of course; she could have pushed back against all the nonsense. But on the few occasions when she deigned to let such topics pollute her work, she of course did what her colleagues were doing—she ridiculed Gore, rather hard.

    Did Gore avoid discussing the environment? In June 2000, he met with the New York Times editorial board, and with dimwits like Dowd. In her subsequent column, Lady Dowd whined and complained about how boring Gore had been. The punishment had been extreme. Just look what Gore had discussed!

    DOWD (6/14/00): Al Gore met yesterday with Times writers and editors. The first question put to him was: How do you assess George W. Bush as a candidate?

    The vice president spoke 1,565 words, really, really slowly, with glacial pauses between each word. He propounded and expounded for more than 15 minutes, touching on such diverse topics as the human genome, the ice-free future of the Arctic Ocean, the “Star Wars” journey, the climate of New York City, federal entitlements, the climate of Atlanta, embassy security, the climate of Illinois, Individual Development Accounts, the climate of Oklahoma and the state of the U.S. economy in 1835. But despite some prodding, he never did get around to answering.

    He simply kept exhaustively not answering in that formal voice that sounds as though he has to guide his listeners by the hand, no matter how well they know the subject.

    All . . . those . . . drawn . . . out . . . syllables . . . signifying . . . nothing . . . had . . . a . . . soporific . . . effect . . . on . . . me. But when I snapped back to attention, I hadn’t missed a thing.

    Good God, that climate talk was boring! The lady had struggled to stay awake! But what else was new? From the 1996 re-election on, Dowd rarely talked about Gore and the environment—but when she did, she typically did so as a way to mock Gore’s freak flag. In 1997, she even complained on behalf of the Chinese leadership! (During a visit to China, Gore had “whipp[ed] out his carbon dioxide emission charts for the Prime Minister,” even “recalling the last ice age.” This was too much, Dowd had said.) Later in 1997, Gore was off to Kyoto—and Dowd did a column about what he was thinking. She pictured Gore singing “I Feel Pretty.” Eventually, she had him say this:

    DOWD (12/3/97): Heading off to Kyoto now to talk global warming. I’ll try not to get too charged up about the earth disappearing. (Like my hair.)

    Maureen Dowd is morally ill—and she’s an absolute fool.

    Dowd had always been like this. Indeed, just two weeks before she wrote her column about Gore’s deadly talk to the New York Times board, the lady had written one of her typical fatuous columns, imagining who would be more fun to date, Candidate Bush or Candidate Gore. Among Candidate Gore’s advantages, he would “amuse you with wild exaggerations about his accomplishments,” this monumental dimwit imagined. But among his “disadvantages,” Dowd pictured this: “He’d bring his global warming charts and talk about his Inner Ecology.” And Dowd knew how crazy that book of his was! In April 2000, she offered these thoughts about the Gore camp’s approach to the environment. As always, the dick joke came first:

    DOWD (4/5/00): Some Gore backers are excited about two things in “Erin Brockovich.”

    No, two other things.

    These Democrats think that the allure of the movie about a saucy working-class divorcee who wins a whopping class-action suit against a California utility that poisoned a town’s water augurs a Gore victory because the story is pro-environment and pro-tort.

    “Texas has one of the worst records on the environment, while it’s Gore’s signature issue,” crows a White House official. “And Bush is for tort reform, which is basically denying people the right to redress grievances through the court for having their lives blasted away.”

    [...]

    Republicans are still counting on using quotes from Mr. Gore’s book, “Earth in the Balance,” which is being re-released for Earth Day 2000, to make him seem flaky and extreme. Mr. Gore warns of “an ecological Kristallnacht” and thunders that our children could “inherit a wasteland.”

    Republicans are searching for his unedited text, which they hope will sound even flakier.

    Mr. Luntz says that, polling for the Nature Conservancy, he came away feeling that women don’t want programs as extreme as Mr. Gore’s: “The suburban housewife wants to maintain the park down the street, not close the state of Colorado.”

    After her requisite, dim-witted thought about a lady’s pair of large knockers, Dowd portrayed Gore backers and White House officials actively talking up the environment —to which she responded by churning Pure Republican Cant about how “flaky and extreme” Gore’s book really was. Needless to say, the languid lady made no attempt to evaluate these RNC claims. Purring from Dear Jack’s finest shag, she cattily passed on the smack.

    In fact, Gore did discuss the environment during Campaign 2000. He could have discussed it more, of course. How would Dowd and her colleagues have responded? It isn’t hard to guess.

    Dowd is one of the world’s biggest fools—and a cosmic gender nutcase to boot. Simple story: No print journalist has played a bigger role in dumbing our discourse down to the breaking point, in just the way Brooks described.

    David Brooks didn’t call Dowd’s name. But then, no “liberal journal” has ever done so in a serious way, in all the years of the headlong decline Brooks described in his column. Darlings! It simply isn’t done! Dowd is an icon in a powerful world. Considerations of career and social status keep the “liberals” who edit your “liberal journals” from calling this sick loser’s name.

    By April of the following year: By April 2001, of course, things were quite different for Dowd. By now, George W. Bush was in the White House, and the lady could see she’d been wrong, oh so wrong, in her past denigrations of Gore. You see, this lady had been thrown for a loop by a joke Bush told at a dinner:

    DOWD (4/1/01): I guess a guy who can yuk it up about a woman he has executed in Texas can yuk it up about anything.

    But it was a creepy moment.

    It worked for Erin Brockovich to joke about the carcinogens in the water enviro-villains were sipping because she wanted to get the poison out. W. wants to keep the poison in—to help the enviro-villains who contributed to his campaign.

    Forgive me, Al Gore.

    I used to think you were striving too geekily to be Millennial Man. The Palm Pilot on your belt. The Blackberry. The Earth-cam you dreamed of. Citing “Futurama” as your favorite show. The obsessions about global warming and the information highway. Boldly choosing the first Jewish running mate.

    But now I’m going hungry for a shred of modernity. Bush II has reeled backward so fast, economically, environmentally, globally, culturally, it’s redolent of Dorothy clicking her way from the shimmering spires of Oz to a depressed black-and-white Kansas.

    Dowd, of course, is a consummate idiot. Four months after this column appeared, she flipped on Gore again. Gore wasn’t fighting Bush hard enough, she now declared. And of course, Dowd could tell why Gore was being so slick—it was all about the campaign he planned to run in 2004!

    You know? The campaign he never ran?

    This particular column vividly displays Dowd’s emotional and intellectual squalor—the sickness your “liberal leaders” accept. For that reason, we post a large chunk of the column. As she starts, Dowd is upset because Gore is too fat—and because he has grown a beard on a family vacation. She knows his plans for 2004. Indeed, she knows the very words the gentleman hears in his head.

    This column was written by an ultimate fool—a sick, sad clown to whom liberal leaders have deferred for the past twenty years. “Liberal leaders” have refused to tell the truth about this sick, sad, stupid loser:

    DOWD (8/5/01):The beard is magnifique. So Continental, so Pepe Le Pew.

    In all those pictures from Europe, the newly hirsute Al Gore looking like Orson Welles, strolls contentedly after a repast in Rome with Tipper.

    He has a sly, freshly liberated expression that you usually see only on guys of 18, when they’re finally old enough to escape from their parents, principals and guidance counselors, go off on a trek to Europe and grow a goofy-looking beard.
    It took Prince Albert, who has to choreograph spontaneity, decades to break away—to escape from his alpha-male coach, media mercenaries and overshadowing political sibling, go off on a trek to Europe and grow a goofy-looking beard.

    With his Hemingway growth and Heineken girth, all Mr. Gore needs is a pack of Gitanes and an earth-tone beret. It is tres formidable that Al can be so insouciant, playing the romantic, carefree expatriate when he is really the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

    All the fervid speculation last week about whether Mr. Gore would run again in 2004—despite Tipper’s resistance—was piffle.

    Of course, Al is in the ring. The way he sees it, he isn’t starting all over. He is running for re-election—against a man he has already defeated. He just needs to evict the Occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania, the Scalia squatter. After all, W. is never there anyway. And even when he’s there, he’s not there.

    Mr. Gore has been playing hard to get, like George Washington or a Rules girl, waiting for the clamor of his party and his public. It is likely to be an interminable wait.

    [...]

    Does Mr. Gore really think that all the Ken dolls—John Edwards, Evan Bayh, John Kerry—much less his eager ex-protege, Joe Lieberman, will simply step aside and say, “Oh, O.K., Al, you go again”? Does he think he’ll get a green light from Tom Daschle, the clever, potent Senate majority leader who de-pom-pommed Mississippi cheerleader Trent Lott?

    Democrats are exasperated all over again by the plodding, self-conscious way Mr. Gore is backing into his re-emergence by hosting a political academy for recent college graduates in Tennessee (the home state he couldn’t carry). His speech is not open to the press. “It is just like Gore,” sighs a Democratic official, “to try not to look political when what he is doing is so obvious.”

    He’s trying to act as if he has a machine, but it’s a chimera. What are his passions, except getting what he feels he earned by toiling in the High Chair King’s court?

    As W. and Uncle Dick went about strip-mining the nation, allowing arsenic in the water and turning Alaska into a gas station, Democrats assumed Mr. Gore would lead the opposition. He was the champion of Kyoto and author of a chicken-little polemic warning of “an ecological Kristallnacht” and “wasteland” that looks mild compared to the toxic dreams of the Houston Oilers.

    But he was too busy licking his wounds and calculating his comeback to respond when the Earth really was In the Balance. He was too caught up in an image of himself as a bearded, buff Russell Crowe, standing in the Coliseum, listening to the mob scream his name: Maximus, Maximus.

    Poor Al. He is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and yet he never will be.

    By now, Dowd could state her real view, the view she had snickered out all along. Earth in the Balance had simply been “a chicken-little polemic.”

    This past Sunday, Dowd declared that Candidate Gore should have played Chicken Little much more.

    Dowd may be the dumbest person on earth. She is clearly one of the sickest. By the rules of the guild, Brooks was restricted from naming her name. But liberal “leaders”—editors of “liberal journals”—have also deferred to this screaming nut-cake over the past twenty years.

    They will continue to defer. Their careers will be enhanced—and, for perfectly obvious reasons, your nation will continue to fail.

  • wbboei

    Carol, I googled muslims in europe and got innumerable hits. I am concerned that we may be playing ostrich on the subject. My biggest question centered around WHY in the world anyone would disrespect the NY citizens, and American citiznes, by wanting to build a muslim mosque at or near ground zero; it seems like they were in our face to see what our reactions would be. Thank you for your comment above asking for backup of that offensive statement.
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    That is a good trap question for Obama at a press conference. Whether, given his outreach to the Muslim world, he supports the erection of a mosque on the hallowed ground where more Americans died at the hands of Muslim extremists than perished at the hands of Japanese imperialists at Pearl Harbor. If he says yes, then the follow up question should be is your answer to terrorism to simply turn the other cheek?

  • Shadowfax

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    turndownobama
    July 6th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    S
    July 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Shadowfax, I agree there are many heroes out there who do not get the recognition they deserve…however with the enormity of this disaster – ‘they’ ‘we’ need a spokesperson on the national level…for awhile Carville was doing a good job, but now he seems mute

    =====================

    More likely ‘muted’ — ie the media have stopped broadcasting whatever he is saying.

    Just because someone isn’t getting media coverage — doesn’t mean HE has weakened. (Remember when Hillary gave a major foreign policy speech — and NO media covered it?)

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    I agree with both of you. From what I read, it seems as though the media in areas of the Gulf are covering the news pretty well, but other places, like here in Calif, the local news have nothing of significance on the spill at all. They cover some potential riot, a building burning down, while I scream at the tv.

    Once again, it seems like the PUMA websites are doing the job of getting the news out that the media isn’t covering. What else is news since Barry stole the White House?????????

  • Shadowfax

    Let me just make it clear, I am not a lawyer, but the suit by the Feds on Arizona for enforcing the Federal law…I think will leave the Feds with their pants down.

    Assuming Arizona has good lawyers and the Feds don’t buy off the judge, the Feds claim Arizona has no right to do the Feds job, and Arizona can say, the state has the right to protect their state, abiding by the rules of the Federal law, especially when the Feds refuse to uphold the law to protect citizens.

    So far, all report that the suit does not claim the Arizona law has racial profiling.

  • basement angel

    Carol,

    The email is pure hysteria – as if Europe is going to become a Muslim region. Bullshit. Europeans aren’t religious and they’ve shown no inclination to adopt Islamic tenets as their own.

    The Muslims as a group are problematic, but Europe created a lot of the problem. Rather than integrating them into their neighborhoods as has happened in the US, they grouped them into tenements where they only people they interacted with were other Muslims from their home region. From there, thuggery took over as will always happen in impoverished, isolated communities.

    It’s bizarre in the extreme to me that you read an absolutely hysterical, idiotic racist rant designed to scare you and you accept that. When someone suggests that it’s mostly boiler plate hysteria, you ask for documentation.

    The level of stupidity in that letter is through the roof. What the writer is counting on is your racism and lack of critical thinking skills to allow you to buy his horseshit.

    This kind of assholery is a good part of what’s ruining this nation. you cannot ask how people were stupid enough to vote for Obama if you’re stupid enough to take a letter like this at face value.

    The “final stages of the Islamification of Europe”!!!!

    Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

  • wbboei

    Let me just make it clear, I am not a lawyer, but the suit by the Feds on Arizona for enforcing the Federal law…I think will leave the Feds with their pants down.
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    I hope you are right. Normally, an injunction is hard to get. I have tried to get them through a federal court twice in my career and each time I failed. But here you have the issue of federalism and it weighs in favor of the federal government, not dispositely but arguably. Aprops of this is the doctrine of pre emption which precludes states from acting in an area which is reserved to congress. But here I am hoping that the issue is seen not in those terms, but in terms of each entity having an obligation to its citizens, and as we have seen Arizona citizens have been murdered by drug gangs on their ranches because the federal government has failed to secure its border. Perhaps we should put an effigy of Congressman Pete Stark on the border to remind everyone that even though violence is spilling over into our country the border is safe/

  • basement angel

    Here’s a Reuters Fact Box on conversions to Islam by Europeans that also lists the number of Muslims in the nation:
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06820042.htm

    Germany has 81 million citizens, 3 million of which are Muslim. Around 4000 Germans converted to Islam last year.

    Britain has 60 million citizens of which 2 million are Muslims and there were approximately 16,000 converts in 2001.

    France has a population of 65 million people of which 6 million are Muslim.

    Out of 200 million people in those three nations, approximately 5% are Muslim. And those Muslims are, by and large, the poorest people in those countries. And that represents the “Final stage of the Islamification of Europe”? Gimme a fucking break.

    Just step away from the stupid, sanctimonious crap that gets passed around on the internet. This is part of what fucks up our national discourse and allows assholes like Bush and Obama to get elected. It’s politically and culturally irresponsible to engage with the kind of crap. It’s also infantile and narcissistic.

    The last time a friend emailed me something this stupid, I wrote them back and told them that if they took a gun and shot their head off, they wouldn’t be any stupider than they were beforehand. Blessedly, they haven’t sent me anymore of this crap.

    Don’t tolerate it. Don’t indulge it. Call it out for what it is racist, bullshit hysteria and put it right back on the person who dumped on you. None of us need this kind of garbage filling up our head.

  • moononpluto

    If I was Brewer, I’d file a new law requiring all election candidates to produce to the Governor’s office a full valid Birth Certificate to able to be put on the ballot in 2012.

  • wbboei

    If I was Brewer, I’d file a new law requiring all election candidates to produce to the Governor’s office a full valid Birth Certificate to able to be put on the ballot in 2012
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    Yes. And that should also be a plank of the tea party movement. Never before in our history have we seen such a determined effort to water down the legal doctrine of citizenship. Blanket amnesty coupled with a national id card are precursors of this and the slight of hand Obama has used to skirt the issue of his own birth is further evidence of this. Again, the goal here is to create a North American Union, which will lead ultimately to a Trans-Atlantic Union. I find that obscene, but that is what Obama and Bush before him were put in office to do. That is the elite agenda. And it is what we must fight against. It is a new form of tyranny.

  • wbboei

    Here’s a Reuters Fact Box on conversions to Islam by Europeans that also lists the number of Muslims in the nation:
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06820042.htm
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    Thanks. It is way below my guess. In that case, it must be the birth rate differential which has got them worried.

  • Shadowfax

    wbboei

    Can Arizona lawyers win by proving that the Feds did not enforce the immigration law in their state, leaving citizens in harms way, and that failure by the Feds is why the Arizona law enforcement is necessary, which their first job is to protect their state from harm?

  • basement angel

    Shadowfax,

    The immigration laws are enforced in the fashion that they are because Big Business likes having illegal immigrants that they can underpay and threaten as employees. The Supreme Court is in the hands of a heavily pro-corporate majority at the moment. You do the math…

  • wbboei

    Obama Says Netanyahu Will Take ‘Risks for Peace’
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    This statement is gibberish. There are risks in doing what is required to secure peace just as there are risks inherent in not pursuing it. The issue is are they prudent risks, how are they backstopped, what is the right timing, and how do they look as you weigh them against other risks. As usual, Obama is in lala land.

  • wbboei

    wbboei

    Can Arizona lawyers win by proving that the Feds did not enforce the immigration law in their state, leaving citizens in harms way, and that failure by the Feds is why the Arizona law enforcement is necessary, which their first job is to protect their state from harm?
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    I have not studied the pleadings. If this were a commerce clause case, the grant of authority to congress under the Constitution has been held to be so broad that congress is deemed to have pre empted the field, in which case even in the absence of congressional action, the states are precluded from acting. You can thank Daniel Webster for that. Coincidentally, I saw oral argument on that issue before the Supreme Court many years ago. I am hoping this case is treated differently.

  • basement angel

    And here is a BBC report that expands quite a bit on the number of Muslims in Europe. And no one sane and informed is worried. It’s the hysterical and the racist who are in a panic over it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4385768.stm

  • wbboei

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    By Mary Lu Carnevale

    Reaction poured in quickly to the Justice Department’s lawsuit to overturn Arizona’s new immigration law.

    Shortly after the suit was filed, 20 Republican members of the House protested the lawsuit in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder.

    “Not only does this lawsuit reveal the Obama administration’s contempt for immigration laws and the people of Arizona,’’ they said, “it reveals contempt for the majority of the American people who support Arizona’s efforts to reduce human smuggling, drug trafficking and illegal immigration.”

    In a joint statement, Arizona’s two Republican senators, John McCain and Jon Kyl, said that “the American people must wonder whether the Obama Administration is really committed to securing the border when it sues a state that is simply trying to protect its people by enforcing immigration law.”

    Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, a Democrat who represents a large portion of largely rural Arizona stretching from Phoenix and Tucson to the Utah and New Mexico borders, called the suit “a sideshow.”

    “A court battle between the federal government and Arizona will not move us closer to securing the border or fixing America’s broken immigration system,” she said in a statement. “The legal fights and boycotts are drawing focus and attention away from what has to be a policy-driven, substantive debate.”

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said that “Suing the people of Arizona for attempting to do a job the federal government has utterly failed to execute will not help secure our borders.” He urged President Barack Obama to take “amnesty off the table and focus his efforts on border and interior security.”

    Georgia Rep. Tom Price, chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a campaign group in the House, called the action “nothing short of ridiculous” because the Arizona law only mirrors federal law. In a statement, he said that “The federal government should be vigorously securing the border, not suing the State of Arizona.”

    In Indiana, GOP Senate candidate Dan Coats blamed what he described as lax border enforcement – and the Obama administration: “”Our federal government has been asleep at the switch in curbing illegal immigration. Americans have waited too long for their government to fulfill its Constitutional responsibility to secure and protect our borders.”

    Benjamin Todd Jealous, president and CEO of the NAACP, cheered the lawsuit. “In filing this lawsuit, the Obama administration has taken a strong and principled stand against Arizona’s discriminatory law. African-Americans have the misfortune of being all too familiar with the pernicious effects of racial profiling, and we welcome the addition of the administration to the broad spectrum of organizations already challenging this unconstitutional law.”

  • Shadowfax

    wbb
    I have not studied the pleadings. If this were a commerce clause case, the grant of authority to congress under the Constitution has been held to be so broad that congress is deemed to have pre empted the field, in which case even in the absence of congressional action, the states are precluded from acting. You can thank Daniel Webster for that. Coincidentally, I saw oral argument on that issue before the Supreme Court many years ago. I am hoping this case is treated differently.

    So does this mean that imminent death (shootings by drug cartels, for example) does not allow the state to act without the consent or physical presence of the Feds being there? So if the Feds say they are broke and can’t send more than a max. of 520+ people to sit behind a desk in Arizona, that Arizona has to look the other way when it comes to crime rushing over their border?

    Also, why do you think the Feds did not add discrimination to the suit, when that is what they have complained about all along?

  • moononpluto

    Well if the Republicans needed another banner slogan for Nov, the Dems just handed them one on a plate by doing this.

    “Vote Democrat if you support human smuggling, drug trafficking and illegal immigration”

    They really can’t be that stupid.

  • wbboei

    How about this: the Arizona law shall remain in effect until such time as the “policy driven subsantive debate” Representative Kirkpatrick dreams about culminates in concrete action to protect Arizona citizens from the imminent threat of violent death rather than more hot air and political chicanery from Obama. Seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

  • Shadowfax

    The Feds also passed and injunction (?) to keep the Arizona law from going into effect until their suit is ruled on.

    Which should get them though the 2010 election, possibly 2012.

    Last I heard, illegals were not granted the right to vote.

  • wbboei

    Well if the Republicans needed another banner slogan for Nov, the Dems just handed them one on a plate by doing this.

    “Vote Democrat if you support human smuggling, drug trafficking and illegal immigration”

    They really can’t be that stupid.
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    Moon: my hat is off to you.

  • Shadowfax

    Where is our Admin? Is he/she depressed after posting Death of America?

    Admin, I hope you are okay.

  • Fifth Dimension

    Shadowfax

    The Feds also passed and injunction (?) to keep the Arizona law from going into effect until their suit is ruled on.

    What??? Was the injuction already granted?!?

  • wbboei

    Can they really be that stupid?

    Well . . . in a word . . . yes.

    But in a rational universe, how can that be true?

    Well . . . they live in an irrational universe.

    Where NASA officials shill on Al Jezzera.

    Some call it the Age of Obama. Others call it the end times.

  • Shadowfax

    What??? Was the injuction already granted?!?

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    Oooops, my question mark was that I didn’t know if ‘injunction’ was the correct word.

    No, they asked for it, but I don’t think it was passed…yet?

  • Fifth Dimension

    Ok phew! Though given the way things work these days, wouldn’t surprise me though if they already had.

  • wbboei

    No it has just been filed. I suspect they will go for a temporary restraining order first. That should be denied pending a full hearing on the merits. Did the Obamacrats really say in their brief that this law is an attempt to second guess the federal government? The federal government has had years to address this problem and has failed to do so. There is no guessing about it. The Arizona law modeled on federal law so in that sense it is not second guessing.

    This dispute is different from the pre emption cases you see in the commerce clause arena. It involves the physical security of Arizona citizens. The systemic refusal of the federal government to enforce EXISTING federal law, incorporated in this statute gives them unclean hands in seeking an injunction. He who seeks equity must do equity. If I were the Judge in this case, I would ask the federal government seeking an injunction whether they are prepared to send in 3000 troops to secure the border pending a new immigration agreement by congress.

  • wbboei

    This dictum is helpful: “But the high court’s opinion said that deference (to federal action, or in this case inaction) only goes so far and that federal laws do not foreclose on state’s ability to enforce its own laws.”
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    USA v Arizona What is Preemption?

    July 6, 2010 – 2:40 PM | by: Lee Ross

    The Obama Administration’s lawsuit challenging a controversial Arizona law cracking down on immigration is based on a legal doctrine known as preemption. It is a rather straightforward legal conflict that the Supreme Court has faced several times in recent years coming down on either side of the divide giving supporters and opponents of the Arizona law reason to claim the legal high ground.

    Preemption is based on the premise that federal oversight is preferred in some areas or preempts state and local laws that cover the same ground. The theory is that federal law works best in providing uniformity with rules and regulations that could never be achieved in all 50 states. This is particularly important for large businesses that generally prefer to work under one set of federal rules rather than a hodgepodge of limitations that can vary widely throughout the states.

    In this case, the Obama Administration claims the controversial Arizona measure is preempted by federal law. The federal government asserts it has the primary statutory responsibility of enforcing the country’s immigration policies and that Arizona cannot pass a measure that usurps this authority. The feds will insist that if each state is allowed to create its own policies then its national immigration prerogative is thrown into chaos.

    Arizona officials argue their law supports federal immigration efforts and does not impede on Washington’s ability to control immigration policy. These officials including Gov. Jan Brewer (R) believe the federal government has failed in its efforts to deal with problems that are more acute in its state–that sits on the Mexico border–versus other states where the concerns over illegal immigrants are less pressing.

    The high court has addressed the preemption issue several times in recent years. Here’s a look at a few of those cases:

    Cuomo v. Clearing House (decided June 29, 2009)

    5-4. Justice Antonin Scalia authored the opinion in favor of New York State. The ruling holds that the New York Attorney General can pursue an investigation into the lending practices of major national banks (Wells Fargo, Citibank, etc.) but may not issue subpoenas related to that investigation.

    In 2005, New York’s attorney general sent letters of inquiry to various banks in response to newly released federal statistics suggesting those banks might have discriminated against minority borrowers who took out home mortgages. The statistics indicated that minority borrowers were more likely to have higher interest rates on home loans than white borrowers. The letters asked for the banks to provide the attorney general proprietary information that could have been used against them in any subsequent lawsuit.

    The banks and their trade association filed their own legal challenge to stop the investigation. They were eventually joined by the federal Office of Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) which regulates large national banks. Together, they argued the attorney general cannot investigate a matter that falls within the exclusive purview of the OCC. A federal district court judge agreed and granted the banks relief from the investigation. It ruled the OCC can preempt any state investigation or prosecution of national banks even if those banks violate state laws. A divided panel of the Second Circuit of Appeals affirmed that judgment saying the OCC is entitled to due deference in its interpretation of federal law.

    But the high court’s opinion said that deference only goes so far and that federal laws do not foreclose on state’s ability to enforce its own laws.

    Wyeth v. Levine (decided March 4, 2009)

    6-3. Justice John Paul Stevens authored the opinion in favor of Diana Levine. In a victory for consumer rights, the Supreme Court rejected Wyeth’s claims that because they complied with federal laws they are shielded from lawsuits in state courts. Wyeth Pharmaceuticals appealed a $6.7 million jury award given to Levine, a Vermont resident, who claimed the labeling on Wyeth’s anti-nausea drug Phenergan was inadequate. In 2000, health workers at Diana Levine’s local clinic incorrectly inserted the drug into Diana Levine’s right arm. After several weeks of excruciating pain, the arm became gangrenous and was amputated.

    The majority opinion authored by Justice John Paul Stevens says federal laws administered by the Food and Drug Administration do not preempt Levine’s successful lawsuit filed under Vermont state law. The jury in that case said Wyeth’s Phenergan label did not adequately convey the dangers associated with the drug in violation of state labeling laws. Justice Samuel Alito in his dissent said “this case illustrates that tragic facts make bad law.” He was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Antonin Scalia in calling the ruling a “frontal assault” on the FDA’s authority to regulate the drug industry.

    Riegel v. Medtronic (decided February 20, 2008)

    8-1. Justice Antonin Scalia authored the opinion in favor of Medtronic. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for approving medical devices before they are put into use. In 1996, the Medtronic-made catheter that was used in Charles Riegel’s angioplasty ruptured. A suit was filed in New York claiming that the catheter was improperly manufactured and violated that state’s common law. Lower courts ruled against the Riegel family concluding the states could not impose rules different from the guidelines proscribed by the FDA. And the High Court reached the same conclusion.

  • moononpluto

    Obama really wants everyone fighting with each other, thats his goal. He’s going to start a border war. The one thing this is guaranteed to do is drive white voters further and further to the republicans.

    I really don’t understand the logic of this administration not wanting to secure borders or check who is waltzing into the country.

  • wbboei

    I am sure the lawyers for the State of Arizona have prepared an affidavit documenting not only the economic harm but the physical harm to the citizens of Arizona caused by the failure of the federal government to discharge its constitutional duties. I hope they also cite the comments of Mr. Obama which make it perfectly clear that the reason he is not sending troops in is because he wants the problem to continue to give the political opposition an incentive to agree to amnesty. In other words he is holding the security of the people of Arizona hostage to a political agenda. An injunction is an equitable action, and he who seeks equity must do equity–the doctrine of unclean hands.

  • wbboei

    I really don’t understand the logic of this administration not wanting to secure borders or check who is waltzing into the country.
    ———————-
    Then take a look at the agenda of Obama’s godfather and you will see that there is a method to the madness. And remember this guy is the most powerful money man in the New Democratic Party, and he turns up everywhere you look.

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/25/104735.shtml

  • JanH

    Hillary Clinton on Politics, Democracy, and Governance



  • JanH

    Raw Video: Hillary Clinton in Georgia for Talks



  • Carol

    basement angel
    July 6th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    I stopped reading your response when I got to the foul language….not appreciated.

    I did glimpse your “stupid” comments….also not appreciated.

    I based my first query to you based on…as I said earlier…many news reports that I have read….not on the one letter posted here. I was interested in what reports you have read. I won’t make that mistake again.

    I have read reports of the percentage of school age children and people under 20 that tell a different story. Just as in the US, it is important to look at the generation that is soon to come of age.

    I live in a community that has become at least 20% latino. However, the schools are 50% latino. Do the math. The reports I have read show a similar situation in Europe.

  • wbboei

    President
    Former NASA Director Says Muslim Outreach Push ‘Deeply Flawed’
    By Judson Berger

    The former head of NASA on Tuesday described as “deeply flawed” the idea that the space exploration agency’s priority should be outreach to Muslim countries, after current Administrator Charles Bolden made that assertion in an interview last month.

    “NASA … represents the best of America. Its purpose is not to inspire Muslims or any other cultural entity,” Michael Griffin, who served as NASA administrator during the latter half of the Bush administration, told FoxNews.com.

    Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and “perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering.”

    Officials from the White House and NASA on Tuesday stood by Bolden’s statement that part of his mission is to improve relations with Muslim countries — though NASA backed off the claim that such international diplomacy is Bolden’s “foremost” responsibility.

    Griffin said Tuesday that collaboration with other countries, including Muslim nations, is welcome and should be encouraged — but that it would be a mistake to prioritize that over NASA’s “fundamental mission” of space exploration.

    “If by doing great things, people are inspired, well then that’s wonderful,” Griffin said. “If you get it in the wrong order … it becomes an empty shell.”

    Griffin added: “That is exactly what is in danger of happening.”

    He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

    “There is no technology they have that we need,” Griffin said.

    The former administrator stressed that any criticism should be directed at Obama, not Bolden, since NASA merely carries out policy.

    The White House stood by Bolden on Tuesday. Spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a written statement to FoxNews.com that Obama “wants NASA to engage with the world’s best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration.

    “Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration,” he said.

    Bob Jacobs, NASA’s assistant administrator for public affairs, echoed that point. However, he said that Bolden was speaking of priorities when it came to “outreach” and not about NASA’s primary missions of “science, aeronautics and space exploration.” He said the “core mission” is exploration and that it was unfortunate Bolden’s comments are now being viewed through a “partisan prism.”

    Though the Al Jazeera interview drew widespread attention, it wasn’t the first time Bolden made the assertion.

    A Feb. 16 blog in the Orlando Sentinel reported that Bolden discussed the outreach during a lecture to engineering students. As he did in the interview with Al Jazeera last month, Bolden was quoted then saying Obama told him to “find ways to reach out to dominantly Muslim countries.”

    He reportedly talked about the importance of helping countries establish space programs and pointed to the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia, as a possible partner.

    “We really like Indonesia because the State Department, the Department of Education (and) other agencies in the U.S. are reaching out to Indonesia as the largest Muslim nation in the world,” he said.

    Bolden did not describe such outreach as his prime mission at the time.

    The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo, and in the interview with Al Jazeera he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

    “It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations),” he said.

    He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

    However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission. “Not at all. It’s not a diplomatic anything,” he said.

    He also said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

    Griffin disputed this point. He said the U.S. can still make those strides without international aid if it wishes, and that, “To the extent that we wish to go to Mars, we can go to Mars.”

    Griffin said the U.S. should in fact seek international cooperation for those missions, but that it would be “clearly false” to suggest the U.S. needs that cooperation.

    Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency’s Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.

    Fox News’ Brian Wilson contributed to this report

  • wbboei

    Obama really wants everyone fighting with each other, thats his goal. He’s going to start a border war. The one thing this is guaranteed to do is drive white voters further and further to the republicans
    ————————–
    Obama is just a puppet. Tnese policies of political destabilization are purposeful and they come out of Soros think tanks around the world. I have often thought if we could just get one of his people to defect and give us the inside story that more people would wake up. But to date, that has not happened. The problem is it would have to be somebody pretty senior, and those people are presumably of the same faith and have been well vetted. To assume that these policies are simply designed to placate modify and seduce Hispanic voters is to miss the larger point, just as people missed the larger point that Obama was Muslim because they were more focused on the fact that he was half black.

  • wbboei

    A missing piece of the puzzle? I asked Carol Haka what he said but have yet to see a response. Did anyone here see the program she is referring to?
    ————————-

    carol haka
    Turn to Fox Business. Bartle Bull is on and he is mad!

    He’s telling the truth about ACORN and 400k fraudulent votes that he is aware of.

    Today, 16:06:40 – Flag – Like – Reply
    Liked bysowsear
    Breeze
    Ferd Berfle
    Armymom
    Diana L. C.
    Onofre’s arm

    carol haka
    And, the racist reasons behind dropping the Voter Intimidation Case.

  • wbboei

    I FOUND IT. HERE IT IS. IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE, I GUARANTEE YOU IT WILL KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF:

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4267253/civil-rights-attorney-on-accusations-vs-doj/?playlist_id=87651


  • jbstonesfan

    Israeli “right” MK’s not impressed with Obama:
    ====================

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=180666

  • Mrs. Smith

    wbboei
    July 6th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    GEAT Find!

    JMJ- If this isn’t grounds for Impeachment, I don’t know what is?

  • Mrs. Smith

    GREAT=GREAT (glasses on):)

  • JanH

    jbstonesfan
    July 6th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    ——————
    Also a great find!

    “Obama doesn’t sound wicked now, but he was merely buying time,” Eldad said.

    –Wrong! He has been evil from day 1.

  • basement angel

    Carol,

    gee, so you’re offended by foul language but not blatant, racist hysteria? Wow. Your values are upside down.

    Someone can be as profane as they want with me as long as they get their facts right, and their suppositions are grounded in the real world. You, however, reject actual authoritative demographics and prefer simplistic, racist, right wing hysteria.

    Let’s take a look at some of the sources you allegedly have saying that 50% of the children in school in Europe are Muslim. I put data on the line. Let’s see you do the same.

  • Shadowfax

    True Reporting on the Gulf Oil Spill- Gregg Hall Live

    Date / Length: 7/6/2010 7:00 PM – 1 hr 1 min
    Length: 1 hr 1 min
    Description:
    h:133355 s:1133979
    Greg Hall continues his Live discussion of the situation in Pennsacola and Surrounding Beaches. Gregg takes us for a daily video tour of the worsening Beach conditions. His uploads to facebook each morning come from his i-phone on the sand in front of his home. Join us for discusion that gives true reporting of the crisis situation.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/emily-harris/2010/07/07/true-reporting-on-the-gulf-oil-spill-gregg-hall-live?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a50:g12:r1:c0.999153:b35421594:z0

    posted on PUMApac, blog talk radio

  • Shadowfax

    I’m listening to the blog radio I posted above, they are talking about things like BP hiring contractors to bring in sand, even from NJ to cover up the oil on the sand…

  • SHV

    I this is true then BP assets should be seized.

    “BP Squandered Chance to Capture More Oil From Well, Helix Says”

    “July 6 (Bloomberg) — BP Plc waited six weeks to accept Helix Energy Solutions Inc.’s offer to help gather oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico, opting to rely on vessels with less than half the capacity to capture crude from its leaking well.
    (snip)
    Helix, the Houston-based owner of floating oil platforms and subsea wells, offered its Helix Producer I vessel in late April to help BP collect oil that has been gushing from the Macondo well since an April 20 rig explosion that killed 11 workers, Chief Executive Officer Owen Kratz said today in an interview. BP initially declined the offer, he said.
    (snip)
    “The ad-hoc way this has been reacted to has reduced the amount of oil captured,” Kratz said by telephone from Houston. “The connection to the vessel itself is jury-rigged because we’ve only had since June 10 to put it together.”

    Bryan Ferguson, a BP spokesman, didn’t immediately respond to a telephone message seeking comment for this story.

    Macondo has been gushing as much as 60,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean, according to a government estimate. London- based BP has been capturing about 25,000 barrels of oil a day from the well this month.

    Below Capacity

    Once the Helix Producer I hooks into a floating buoy connected to the well, it will collect as much as 25,000 barrels a day, less than 60 percent of its capacity, because of the mechanical limitations associated with BP’s delay, Kratz said.
    (snip)

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-06/bp-squandered-chance-to-capture-more-oil-from-well-helix-says.html

  • Shadowfax

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectGulfImpact#p/u/13/iS66fomgWFI

    BP OIL DISASTER! DR. RIKI OTT TALKS ABOUT DISPERSANT AND WHAT BP IS HIDING!

  • Shadowfax

    Corexit Being Sprayed From Coast Guard Planes!

    This guys explains how deadly the dispersant is and why it was chosen by BP.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectGulfImpact#p/u/8/1FxfYqnlQ50

  • wbboei

    He doesn’t sound evil now because he needs Jewish votes and money,” said Deputy Negev and Galilee Development Minister Ayoub Kara.
    ——————————-
    Forget what Obama says.

    It is eye wash and lies.

    He has been bamboozling people since he was in knee pants.

    But watch very closely what he does.

    His words and his actions seldom match.

  • Shadowfax

    By JEFF DONN and MITCH WEISS, Associated Press Writers Jeff Donn And Mitch Weiss, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 10 mins ago

    More than 27,000 abandoned oil and gas wells lurk in the hard rock beneath the Gulf of Mexico, an environmental minefield that has been ignored for decades. No one — not industry, not government — is checking to see if they are leaking, an Associated Press investigation shows.

    The oldest of these wells were abandoned in the late 1940s, raising the prospect that many deteriorating sealing jobs are already failing.

    The AP investigation uncovered particular concern with 3,500 of the neglected wells — those characterized in federal government records as “temporarily abandoned.”

    Regulations for temporarily abandoned wells require oil companies to present plans to reuse or permanently plug such wells within a year, but the AP found that the rule is routinely circumvented, and that more than 1,000 wells have lingered in that unfinished condition for more than a decade. About three-quarters of temporarily abandoned wells have been left in that status for more than a year, and many since the 1950s and 1960s — eveb though sealing procedures for temporary abandonment are not as stringent as those for permanent closures.

    As a forceful reminder of the potential harm, the well beneath BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig was being sealed with cement for temporary abandonment when it blew April 20, leading to one of the worst environmental disasters in the nation’s history. BP alone has abandoned about 600 wells in the Gulf, according to government data.

    more…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_abandoned_wells

    posted on PUMApac

  • wbboei

    Experts: ‘Ridiculous’ Lawsuit Won’t Nix Arizona Law on Illegals
    Tuesday, 06 Jul 2010 08:05 PM Article Font Size
    By: David A. Patten

    Top Republicans Tuesday blasted the Obama administration’s lawsuit against Arizona’s controversial illegal-immigration law as “nothing short of ridiculous.”

    Immigration law experts tell Newsmax that the administration has little chance of prevailing against the Arizona statute, which empowers police to arrest illegal aliens once another violation has occurred.

    After weeks of speculation, the Department of Justice on Tuesday filed a 22-page lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of Arizona.

    President Obama has charged the law could contribute to racial profiling. “In the United States of America, no law-abiding person, be they an American citizen, a legal immigrant or a visitor or tourist from Mexico, should ever be subject to suspicion simply because of what they look like,” Obama said when Mexican President Felipe Calderon visited the White House in May.

    Apparently unable to substantiate the racial-profiling allegation — the Arizona law doesn’t even take effect until July 29 — the administration instead focused its lawsuit narrowly on the Supremacy Clause in the U.S. Constitution.

    The Supremacy Clause says federal laws take precedent over state laws. Article 6, clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that laws made “under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.”

    Supporters of the Arizona law, however, say it is merely intended to enforce federal laws already on the books.

    “The Justice Department’s complaint that Arizona has somehow preempted federal law is nothing short of ridiculous,” Republican Study Committee Chairman Tom Price, R-Ga., said in a statement to the media. “Arizona has simply reinforced longstanding federal laws, whose enforcement the Obama administration is now actively seeking to prevent… States like Arizona should not have to act on their own, but Washington’s decades of neglect for border security leave them no choice. The federal government should be vigorously securing the border, not suing the State of Arizona.”

    In a sense, Arizona’s law is designed to “help” federal immigration authorities enforce their own laws against illegals — statutes that the feds have largely ignored. The Arizona law, S.B. 1070, was carefully crafted to mimic federal laws that are already on the books precisely to avoid a lawsuit based on federal supremacy.

    The Obama administration’s lawsuit goes so far as to say S.B. 1070 could damage the conduct of U.S. foreign policy.

    “S.B. 1070 has subjected the United States to direct criticism by other countries and international organizations and has resulted in a breakdown in certain planned bilateral and multilateral arrangements on issues such as border security and disaster management,” the lawsuit states.

    The bill’s primary sponsor, Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce, shrugged off the administration’s lawsuit Tuesday, telling Fox News: “We knew they were going to sue. This was written based on their law, knowing they were going to sue. We will prevail.

    “They’re looking for an easy way to find a liberal judge who will put a TRO temporary restraining order, so they can usher in amnesty. It is a policy of non-enforcement. This administration … it’s about time we elect people that have a sacred, and a solemn duty, to the Constitution.”

    Steven A. Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies, tells Newsmax that he shares the skepticism that administration will win its lawsuit against the Arizona law.

    “In talking with one of the attorney’s that helped write [the Arizona law] it’s not that likely that the pre-emption arguments or supremacy arguments are going to hold sway,” Camarota tells Newsmax. “… Because the courts have already ruled that local authorities have the right to enforce federal immigration law even without this [Arizona] law.

    “So it’s kind of hard to argue that when you create a law that just simply mirrors the federal law that now you’ve done something that’s illegal. There’s already precedent saying local authorities can enforce federal immigration law.”

    Law professor Kris W. Kobach, of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law, who has litigated several high-profile immigration lawsuits, told Fox News that it will be hard to convince the courts the states should be barred from participating in the enforcement of federal immigration laws, given that Congress established a Law Enforcement Support Center (LESC) to help law officers determine whether detainees are illegal.

    The LESC Web site states the purpose of the system is to provide “identity information to local, state and federal law enforcement agencies on aliens suspected, arrested, or convicted of criminal activity.”

    “What Arizona does is it standardizes the practice, and says, ‘OK, all law enforcement officers shall do this, shall utilize this system, and here’s when you should do it,’” Kobach told Fox News. “So for the federal government now to come out and say, ‘Well, we don’t want the state and local help’ is a little bit two-faced because Congress created this law enforcement support center. The statutes of the federal government clearly contemplate this help.”

    Kobach adds that judicial precedents in the Arizona court where the case was filed do not bode well for the administration.

    “Many people talk about the ninth circuit as being a very liberal court,” he said. “But the ninth circuit has a lot of experience in dealing with illegal immigration. And the ninth circuit has actually ruled on a case that is very similar to this one back in 1983, and the ninth circuit held effectively in Arizona’s favor, saying that ‘Yes, states and local police do have the authority to make immigration arrests and to assist the federal government in enforcing federal immigration laws.’”

    In its lawsuit the Justice Department states no fewer than 10 times that it has a responsibility to “balance” conflicting interests in the enforcement of immigration laws, weighing humanitarian and foreign-policy considerations.

    At times, the suit appears to come perilously close to claiming the federal government has a sovereign right to enforce, or not enforce, whichever immigration laws it wishes, claiming “the preeminent federal authority and responsibility over immigration.”

    Among its objections to the Arizona law:

    It says the law interferes with federal priorities. The federal government, it says, “principally targets” aliens who appear most dangerous or violent. The Arizona law would result in the arrest of anyone found to be in the United States illegally during the course of a “lawful police contact,” such as a speeding violation.
    It states the law could lead to the arrest of immigrants who are waiting for a pending request for political asylum to be adjudicated. The suit states the federal government entertains asylum requests from applicants who are illegal immigrants.
    The federal lawsuit contends S.B. 1070 “attempts to second guess” federal policies which “do not involve any legitimate state interest.”
    The lawsuit voices the concern that many other states are considering similar legislation, complicating U.S. foreign policy and overall efforts to regulate immigration.
    It argues that the “alien inspection scheme” will lead to “countless inspections and detentions of individuals who are lawfully present in the United States.” The case is not based on such civil rights concerns, however.
    It raises the prospect that legal minors without a driver’s license or without “an accepted form of identification” could be arrested. The Arizona Motor Vehicle Department requires minors to obtain an instruction or learner’s permit, however.
    The bill also predicts that the Department of Homeland Security would be deluged with requests to verify alien status, thereby placing “a tremendous burden on DHS resources.” In other words the administration states DHS, with a $44 billion budget, does not currently have the capability to consistently verify the residency status of aliens, without allocating additional resources.

    Camarota suggests the president’s real objective may be political anyway.

    “Because [President Obama] can’t offer the amnesty crowd anything substantive,” he says, “he’s got to do something to show he’s still with them however … it’s symbolically important. I think that’s why he’s doing it.”

    One indication of that political sensitivity: Three of the five Democrats who represent Arizona in the House of Representatives petitioned President Obama not to file the lawsuit challenging the law.

    Arizona’s GOP senators, Jon Kyl and John McCain, blasted the administration’s decision Tuesday, stating “the American people must wonder whether the Obama Administration is really committed to securing the border when it sues a state that is simply trying to protect its people by enforcing immigration law.”

    Kyl and McCain also predicted the federal lawsuit would be very difficult to win.

    The Justice Department’s lawsuit will now join at least five other lawsuits already pending against the Arizona law.

    U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton has set a hearing date of July 15 in one of them, a lawsuit filed by a Phoenix police officer. That lawsuit requests a temporary injunction to block the law’s implementation.

    Lawyers for Arizona contend the request for an injunction should be dismissed, because its claims that the law will violate citizens’ constitutional rights are speculative.

    A hearing related to yet another lawsuit against the law has been scheduled in Bolton’s court for July 22.
    © Newsmax. All rights reserved.

  • wbboei

    JMJ- If this isn’t grounds for Impeachment, I don’t know what is?
    ———————————-
    It is devastating testimony against Obama by an unimpeachable source. It is political dynamite for 2010 and 2012. It lays bare the anti white racist practices of the Obama Justice Department, and the serial violations of the Voting Rights Act which Obama took an oath to enforce. And it shines a light on the future plans of Obamacrats to steal the election in 2010 and 2012 by intimidating poll watchers and sneaking in 400,000 illegal voters. In short, it confirms many of our impressions. If we did not have FOX News none of this would have come out. CNN, NBC, MSNBC and ABC are his propaganda ministry. They would have covered it up. If Obama can corrupt our democracy to this extent then impeachment is the next lawful step.

  • jeswezey

    wbboei: “It is devastating testimony against Obama by an unimpeachable source…. ”

    What are you talking about here? Did I miss this testimony?

  • jeswezey

    Just thought I would share this hilarious article with you all…

    ******

    Prominent U.S. congressman rejects expansion of oilsands pipeline to Gulf coast

    By Dina O’Meara, Calgary Herald July 6, 2010 •Story•Photos ( 1 )

    A coalition of American congressmen is trying to delay the $12-billion Keystone XL pipeline expansion, insisting in a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the “tarsands oil pipeline” needs more study.Photograph by: Courtesy of TransCanada, Courtesy of TransCanadaCALGARY —

    A top U.S. politician has waded into the debate against a Canadian pipeline expansion to take crude from Alberta’s oilsands to southern markets, calling the Keystone XL a “step in the wrong direction.”

    House Energy and Commerce committee chairman Henry Waxman called on the U.S. government to block the expansion of TransCanada Corp.’s proposed pipeline expansion to the Gulf of Mexico.

    The California Democrat joins a growing list of U.S. representatives and environmentalists opposing the line which they say promotes global warming and environmental degradation by supporting oilsands operations.

    The proposed $7 billion expansion would pump 510,000 barrels per day of crude from Alberta to U.S. refineries in the Gulf of Mexico. It would be completed by 2013, and forms part of TransCanada’s Keystone line which began pumping to refineries in Illinois last week.

    “This pipeline is a multi-billion dollar investment to expand our reliance on the dirtiest source of transportation fuel currently available,” stated Waxman in a letter to the U.S. State Department. “I am concerned that the Keystone XL pipeline would be a step in the wrong direction,” he said about the Obama administration’s push on climate change.

    Last week, 49 Democratic representatives sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urging her to halt the Keystone XL expansion on grounds the bitumen carried on the line represents damaged environments in northern Alberta and higher carbon dioxide emissions in North America.

    In response to mounting pressure against the oilsands, Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach ran a half-page ad in the influential newspaper the Washington Post on Friday.

    Stelmach outlined the importance of Canada’s secure oil supply, the jobs the industry represents in the U.S. on the pipelines and refineries processing the resource, as well as technologies being used to mitigate some of the environmental impacts. He urged collaboration between the nations to develop a secure energy future.

    Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the United States, followed by Mexico, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia.

    **********

    What I find hilarious about all this is not the substance of the debate, but the fact that these 49 congressmen, instead of sending their letter to the Secretary of Energy and/or of Environment, Commerce, Foreign Trade and/or the President himself, send it to the Secretary of State, who by law has no authority in the matter and who furthermore is just back from a fence-mending mission in eastern Europe.

    This reflects either a total ignorance of the de jure powers of the executive branch departments, or total awareness of the de facto realities of power within the current administration. It is quite apparent that these 49 congressmen realize that the only member of the current administration who is capable of reading, listening, thinking, and acting on any matter of concern to them is the current Secretary of State. All the other members of the administration, including our fine President, are out to lunch.

  • holdthemaccountable

    wbboei @ 9:38 p: I FOUND IT. HERE IT IS.
    ——————
    Wow.
    I’ve passed it on.

  • jeswezey

    Here’s another Hillary-friendly editorial from WaPo:

    Hillary Clinton mends fences in Central Europe and the Caucasus
    Wednesday, July 7, 2010

    SECRETARY OF STATE Hillary Rodham Clinton spent the holiday weekend on what might be described as a makeup tour. In Central Europe and in the Caucasus, she visited countries that the Obama administration has been accused of ignoring or undervaluing as it has sought to “reset” relations with Russia. Along the way, she delivered a speech on a cause — democracy promotion — that the administration, and Ms. Clinton herself, have also appeared to play down.

    Though not a substitute for a consistent policy, this diplomacy of reassurance was useful. In Tbilisi, the secretary of state stood alongside Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili — a favorite of the Bush administration who has yet to get a meeting with President Obama — and affirmed, “We are Georgia’s partner. We are Georgia’s supporter in both word and deed.” She added that the administration had made clear to Russia that it opposes the continuing occupation of Georgian territories and rejects Moscow’s claim of a sphere of influence in former Soviet republics such as Georgia.

    In Poland, where the Obama administration created a stir last year by abruptly canceling a missile defense accord, Ms. Clinton signed an amended agreement with Defense Minister Radek Sikorski, who said that his government “liked the new configuration better” — a statement that should undercut continuing Republican criticism of the shift. In Ukraine she expressed continued support for a “strategic partnership” with the newly elected government, despite its tilt toward the Kremlin.

    In her address to a meeting of the Community of Democracies in Krakow, Poland, Ms. Clinton rightly described civil society as a crucial component of “a free nation” and called attention to a “crisis”: “Governments around the world are slowly crushing civil society and the human spirit.” She cited examples of repression in countries such as Cuba, Egypt and China, and she proposed modest but potentially helpful responses, including a new fund “to support the work of embattled NGOs [non-governmental organizations].”

    To her credit, Ms. Clinton followed up on her words when she visited Azerbaijan, a strategically important energy producer with an autocratic government, meeting with civil society activists and publicly raising the cases of two imprisoned bloggers. Yet when she was asked at a news conference about the country’s human rights record, she offered the regime of Ilham Aliyev an undeserved endorsement, saying that “we believe there has been a tremendous amount of progress in Azerbaijan.”

    As an Azeri journalist was quick to remind her, the assessment of human rights groups is just the opposite. The slip was perhaps understandable; Ms. Clinton was there, after all, to stroke a friendly regime. But such reassurance, however justified, should not be delivered at the expense of honesty.

  • jeswezey

    “Ms. Clinton was there, after all, to stroke a friendly regime. But such reassurance, however justified, should not be delivered at the expense of honesty.”

    Hillary has said this herself with respect to Israel’s actions.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Since 1979 I’ve seen the need for such a headline such as this:

    Reverse discrimination in New Black Panther case
    Surely President Obama does not support the U.S. Department of Justice’s outrageous decision to drop prosecution of the most blatant example of voter intimidation likely ever caught on video, the New Black Panther case in Philadelphia in 2008. Obama needs to tell Attorney General Eric Holder to reverse the decision before this thing explodes into a scandal of epic proportions. More important, Obama should make clear to Holder and to America that he expects the Justice Department to prosecute all federal voter intimidation cases to the fullest extent of the law without regard to anything but the evidence at hand. Snip.
    h t t p://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Reverse-discrimination-in-New-Black-Panther-case-97891039.html

  • holdthemaccountable

    Ironic, this suppression of the Philadelphia voter intimidation incident with racial overtones. Was it not AG Eric Holder himself who early on mocked Americans for not having the guts to discuss race?

  • holdthemaccountable

    Related.
    Friday, June 26, 2009
    Attorney General Holder: Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws
    On the night of June 1, 2008, a mob of nearly two dozen black teenagers stormed through the streets of Mount Clemens, Michigan, robbing and beating any white person who crossed their path (see article here). One white man was talking on a payphone outside a gas station when he was accosted by the mob. He tried to run into the gas station to safety, but the attendant had already locked the door when he saw the mob approaching. As the man desperately pounded on the locked door, he was surrounded by the mob and savagely beaten. Workers would later have to wash the victim’s blood from the front of the door. In an even more violent incident, a car driven by Andy Kaufmann, a 29-year-old white father of three, was surrounded and a brick was thrown through the window. Andy was beaten unconscious and left with a fractured skull. He sustained permanent brain damage and will never be the same. Andy’s wife Angelina, who was sitting in the passenger seat on the night of the attack and who watched helplessly as her husband was nearly killed, laments, “I miss the Andy I used to know.” In light of the brutality of the crimes committed that night, the sentences handed down were extremely lenient. The man who threw the brick at Kaufmann’s car and instigated the attack, 17-year-old Deonte J. Williams, was sentenced to only 19 months in prison.
    In a radio interview shortly after the attack, Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel was asked why hate crime charges were not sought, which would have resulted in stiffer penalties. Hackel responded that he didn’t consider hate crime laws to be applicable since Kaufmann is white, and therefore not a member of a “protected class.” Hackel said, “I don’t know if it [hate-crime legislation] applies to an unprotected class, and I don’t know if whites are part of that. I’m not sure.” In hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, Attorney General Eric Holder settled Hackel’s question of whether hate crime laws protect whites: they don’t.
    Holder repeatedly claimed that hate crime laws are designed to protect only groups that were targeted for violence on a “historic basis,” such as African-Americans, Hispanics, Jews, and gays. (Holder’s testimony can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the ‘webcast’ link here. He lists the groups he considers to be protected between 73:30 and 74 minutes). snip
    h t t p://araceagainsttime.blogspot.com/2009/06/attorney-general-holder-whites-not.html
    caveat: I know nothing about this site; it appears to me to present the matter in a responsible way and that’s enough for me.

  • wbboei

    holdthemaccountable thank you. It is megapolitical. It breaks his political back. It puts a lie the big media claim that he is a post racial candidate. It is almost like having Martin Luther King or Bobby Kennedy arise from the grave and call the Obama Administration racist. Big media has two choices here: censor it, or invoke the bad hair day defense. I hope they opt for the latter. I love to watch these Goebbels imitators defend an indefensible position. They have had a lot of practice.

    In the area of civil rights, this Administration has adopted two positions of the hard left:

    1. Original sin: black people have been the victims of discrimination throughout our history. Therefore, no matter what they do to whites for racial reasons it cannot be characterized as discrimination. Why? Because a victim cannot also be an oppressor. But when you press them on this issue, they tell you that even though a particular individual may not have been discriminated against in a given instance, his ancestors were. The problem with that argument insofar as it applies to Obama is his ancestors were not slaves. They were slave traders, lest we forget. Thus, he is not a legitimate claimant to the black experience in this country, and they have been sold a bill of goods on the man.

    2. Open Borders: America is not a sovereign nation with a distinct history, culture and borders. America is simply an idea, and it is open to anyone who shares that idea and wants to come here, without regard to any other considerations. The legal doctrine of citizenship is dismissed as racist and nativist. The people who live in this country are not citizens linked to this country by common blood lines and shared experience, but merely the current “occupants” of this land. This argument leads inevitably to a breakdown of civil society, and without customs and culture the only source of control is brute force. It is prevalent thinking in the brownstones of mid town Manhattan and the slopes of Vail Colorado where too much money and too little common sense hold high court. Also, it is the stock and trade of immigration lawyers.

  • wbboei

    Ironic, this suppression of the Philadelphia voter intimidation incident with racial overtones. Was it not AG Eric Holder himself who early on mocked Americans for not having the guts to discuss race?
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    Yes it was. Obviously, he was not thinking of club wielding Black Panther leader King Shabazz who told a poll watcher at a voting booth that he was a cracker and was about to find out what it was like to be ruled by a black man. Not only did Mr. Shabazz have the guts to discuss race, he was rather uninhibited about it. Les bon temps roule.

    Question: what is with this name Shabaaz? Nelson Mandella’s ex wife was named Betty Shabaaz and she was a hard core racist. She was an advocate of black on white violence as I recall. Nelson wanted no part of her, and you never hear much about her any more. She was an artifact of the old apartheid system, which was part of that nation’s past and not its future. Nelson is their George Washington, and Simon Bolivar. In time they will be the dominant power in Africa.

    The more important question is what does this tell us about Eric Holder. When he was in private practice he defended a corporate client who had a labor dispute in South or Central America. A number of the labor organizers were systematically murdered. That did not seem to both Eric, any more than the proven intimidation of poll workers did here. He may condone these practices as a private citizen or a hired gun for a multinational corporation, but when he took the oath to enforce the laws of the United States he assumed an obligation to prosecute such violations aggressively, whereas here he did not. The reason he failed to do so was purely political. Same reason he is suing the State of Arizona.

  • wbboei

    Anyone who hires people for a living will tell you that past performance is the best predictor of future behavior. That being the case, why is it any surprise that as President Mr. Obama would attempt to govern this nation by campaigning rather than governing by governing? Campaigning is all he knows, and his concept of governing consisted of nothing more than seeing how many times he could push th wrong button in the senate, and how much campaign contributions he could collect by doing the bidding of big business. It has been said that he was the insurance company’s go to guy in Illinois. The fact is he was everybody’s go to guy, if by everybody you mean corporate clients willing to buy public officials.

  • gonzotx

    As a forceful reminder of the potential harm, the well beneath BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig was being sealed with cement for temporary abandonment when it blew April 20, leading to one of the worst environmental disasters in the nation’s history. BP alone has abandoned about 600 wells in the Gulf, according to government data.
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    Why would they be plugging the well prior to the blowout, it by all appearances is the motherlode?

  • wbboei

    The question is hypothetical but it is worth considering. It assumes a continuation of current trends, and assumes no intervening forces which cannot be assumed.

    However, what if by 2012 90% of the blacks still support Obama in spite of what he has done to the country, and 90% of the whites oppose him because of what he has done to the country, would that be a good thing for the country?

    It seems to me that some people need to get past their illusions and see him as he really is. The emergence of black republican candidates is some evidence that is happening. But it is far from conclusive.

    Unfortunately, the people who realize they need to ween themselves off an illusion will get no help from big media. Big Media celebrities are impervious to logic and common sense. They will stick with him until the bitter end, unless he cramps their style and then they will turn on him like a pack of mad dogs.

  • SHV

    Why would they be plugging the well prior to the blowout, it by all appearances is the motherlode?
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    The “well” was an exploration well. It could have been years before that area was used for production. The oil companies are always pushing to open more areas for leases/exploration. One reason is that an oil companies stock price is more related to the amount of “proven” reserves that it owns rather than the oil that they produce.

    This screw up by BP has also likely ruined that oil reserve for production.

  • blowme0bama

    gonzotx
    July 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
    As a forceful reminder of the potential harm, the well beneath BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig was being sealed with cement for temporary abandonment when it blew April 20, leading to one of the worst environmental disasters in the nation’s history. BP alone has abandoned about 600 wells in the Gulf, according to government data.
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    Why would they be plugging the well prior to the blowout, it by all appearances is the motherlode?
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    Energy companies do this all the time. They save these known reserves. There is no shortage of oil, anywhere.

    They also reduce production when they believe oil / gas prices are going to go lower, thus paying less taxes, and less in royalties. Then they increase production from such wells when prices do in fact go lower.

  • wbboei

    Think back to the primary. Do you remember how the denizons of big media twisted Hillary’s innocent comments about RFK into a death wish for the one. It was a total outrage, and RFK Jr. was quick to condemn it. Nevertheless, Axelrod fed it and circulated video to his designated media whores to pump up the story. Shortly thereafter you had people like Michael Goodwin at the New York Daily News on Lou Dobbs and in his columns, Jeffrey Tubin the legal expert at CNN, and David Gerghen screaming at Hillary get out get out! get out!! of the race and let our man Obama have it!!! Do you remember that? Those kinds of demands by those people brought us to the precipice we are confronting today. Tubin, Goodwin, Gerghen et al need to follow their own advice and get out of the journalistic profession. They have no legitimate place there. They lie to the American People.

  • SHV

    unless he cramps their style and then they will turn on him like a pack of mad dogs..
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    The “historic”, “unprecedented” mid-term elections of 2010 will likely turn the media into mad-dogs. No honor among thieves.

  • wbboei

    Is this what they mean by bi-polar? (If so we could make it into a waltz)

    A NQ commentor

    We are in bad shape here. When you see your friends who had professional level jobs losing their homes, you know something is terribly wrong.

    I will vote for Boxer even though I am very disappointed with her. But Carly is, well, not right for the job. We don’t have strong, experienced candidates for goverrnor either. I finally understand why people pray for saviors!!!!!
    Today, 08:14:17 – Flag – Like – Reply————-
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    wbboei

    The old cure for a hangover–more of the hair of the dog that bit you does not work in politics. In politics you need accountability, The drive-by comment Carly is not right for the job tells us nothing. And the experience which we see in Boxer is the wrong kind. I commend to your attention The Law of Holes, i.e. when you are in one, stop digging.

  • SHV

    Energy companies do this all the time. They save these known reserves.
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    A companies “proven reserves” (non-producing) is the number that the SEC says must be provided to investors.

    For US the good news is that Canada has oil reserves that are second only to Saudia Arabia and in fact we import the most from Canada. The fallacy of US oil independence is that the maximum estimate (not proven) of US off shore oil reserves is about 85 billion barrels. If all of this was brought to production today, it would supply US oil needs for ten years. In addition, the cheap, easy oil has or is being produced. What is left is more expensive and potentially more risky to produce. What is the cost/benefit ratio if, say one out of a thousand wells will cause a multi-hundred billion (trillion) dollar cost to the economy and environment? The mindless meme “drill baby drill” has some serious downsides especially if the US government agencies that are responsible for assuring “best practices” are bought off. If a similar accident happens in Alaska or the Arctic, the consequences will be much worse.

  • turndownobama

    SHV
    July 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Energy companies do this all the time. They save these known reserves.
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    A companies “proven reserves” (non-producing) is the number that the SEC says must be provided to investors.

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    This is something Palin went after the oil companies in Alaska about. See “Palin governed from the center”

  • gonzotx

    I heard this on Rush, someone sent it in and then I found it @ Bitters
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    Dem Strait
    “Money for Nothing”
    Spread the Wealth

  • gonzotx

    Bet you won’t hear MSN, NBC, CBS, ABC, or the other RATS talk about this….

    Magazine: Levi Johnston apologizes to Palins

    Levi Johnston has acknowledged telling lies about Sarah Palin and her family after splitting with the former Alaska governor’s daughter last year.

    The 20-year-old tells People magazine in an online story posted Tuesday that since his untrue statements were made in public, “I owe it to the Palins to publicly apologize.”

    It’s unclear which statements he was referring to, and Johnston couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

    Johnston tells People he was “a little angry” after breaking up with his former fiance, 19-year-old Bristol Palin, after their son’s birth in December 2008. He says that against his better judgment, he said things about the Palins that “were not completely true.”

    Johnston says he has also privately apologized to Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, and her husband, Todd.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/06/national/a170959D70.DTL&tsp=1

  • gonzotx

    Oil Fouls New Orleans’ Lake PontchartrainUpdated: 2 hours 29 minutes ago

    Lauren Frayer
    Contributor

    AOL News (July 7) — Oil seeping into New Orleans’ Lake Pontchartrain from the Gulf of Mexico spill is threatening the pristine estuary’s fragile ecosystem less than 20 years after what experts describe as a “dramatic turnabout” in its pollution levels.

    The fact that oil has turned up in the lake, a 630-square-mile inland bay popular with boaters and fishermen, is a psychological blow to New Orleans. The city, more than 100 miles from the gulf, had hoped to avoid much of the gloom that’s beset coastal towns more severely affected by America’s worst-ever oil spill.

    “People love the lake, and they live around the lake,” Anne Rheams, executive director of the Lake Pontchartrain Basin Foundation, told the Los Angeles Times. “It’s really bringing this closer to home for our folks in the basin.”

    Gerald Herbert, AP
    A helicopter flies over New Orleans’ Lake Pontchartrain on Tuesday.
    Nearly 1,700 pounds of reddish-brown gobs of oil have been collected from the lake since the weekend, by cleanup crews and civilians armed with pool-skimming nets on boats and lakeside docks, the New Orleans news website NOLA.com reported.

    Tar balls and an oily sheen appear to have blown into the sheltered area on winds from Hurricane Alex last week — even despite lines of barges anchored in a narrow waterway known as the Rigolets that feeds into the lake, to try to block the flow of oil.

    “This proves that the oil can come in,” the foundation’s director of coastal sustainability, John Lopez, told The Washington Post. “It’s kind of, on an emotional level, disconcerting to see this happen.”

    It’s believed that tar balls spotted Friday near Cat Island off Mississippi’s coast reached the Rigolets on Sunday and then the eastern edge of Lake Pontchartrain a day later. State authorities have closed most of its eastern waters to fishing.

    New concerns about oil contaminating the gulf arose this week, with The Associated Press reporting that there are more than 27,000 abandoned wells in the region, some of which date back to the 1940s. Neither the government nor the oil companies are checking for leaks, according to AP, despite numerous studies over the years warning about environmental dangers posed by the wells.

    New Orleans’ drinking water isn’t likely to be affected because most of the city gets its supply from the Mississippi River. But Lopez told the Post he’s concerned about the impact of the oil on blue crabs, shrimp and fish that migrate into the lake for breeding.

    Lopez also wistfully recalled how his foundation helped to rescue the lake from pollution in the 1990s, restoring it to a bountiful body of water popular today with tourists and fishermen and safe for swimming.

    “Ten, 20 years ago, the lake was in a much worse state,” Lopez told ABC News. “Basically it looked like a lake that was dying.”

    “Even the people involved in the restoration didn’t believe it could be restored. It was completely written off. It was thought to be an impossible task,” he told The Associated Press. “It has been a dramatic turnabout.”

    This isn’t the first disaster to befall Lake Pontchartrain after its revival nearly 20 years ago. In 2005, Hurricane Katrina destroyed many of the area’s lakeside restaurants, seafood docks and vessels. Then during the hurricane cleanup, the Army Corps of Engineers drained contaminated flood waters out of New Orleans and into the lake, the AP reported.

    The lake is named after a 17th-century French count of Pontchartrain, who served under Louis XIV, for whom Louisiana is named. It’s the second-largest saltwater lake in the United States, and a 24-mile causeway that runs across it is believed to be the longest bridge over any body of water in the world.

    The oval-shaped lake nestles New Orleans’ northern suburbs, and it’s been a recreational area and source of seafood for centuries. Those working on the oil cleanup said the lake holds a special place in New Orleans’ residents hearts, as the subject of local lore and a scenic focal point for the city.

    “You won’t hear songs about a lot of the marshes in south Louisiana, but you will hear songs about Lake Pontchartrain,” Brian Lezina, a state biologist involved in testing local seafood for oil contamination, told the AP.

  • moononpluto

    Can someone sort out whatever video it is slowing the site down, its taking ages to get it to load, something is holding it up.

  • gonzotx

    Krauthammer Bashes Obama’s Infantile NASA Muslim Outreach Program

    http://tinyurl.com/35wyrk4

    Charles Krauthammer on Obama’s new NASA strategy:

    “This is a new of fatuousness. NASA was established to get America into space and to keep us there. This idea of ‘feel good about your past’ scientific achievements is the worst kind of group therapy, psycho-babble, imperial condescension and adolescent diplomacy. If I didn’t know that Obama had told him this, I’d demand the firing of Charles Bolden.”

    Don’t hold back, Charles.

  • moononpluto

    Now what was that about death panels, by the backdoor it seems.

    Obama Recess Appoints Rationing Advocate Donald Berwick to Medicare Post

    Washington, DC — President Barack Obama used a recess appointment today to name rationing advocate Donald Berwick to become the director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services. The office oversees government health care programs and that worries pro-life advocates because Berwick has praised British programs that ration care.

  • gonzotx

    Too many posts would be my thinking, time for a new one

  • SHV

    This is something Palin went after the oil companies in Alaska about. See “Palin governed from the center”
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    True..she said “use it (the leases) or loose it” and that got her on the sh*t list of the oil companies and the Repub. party bosses in Alaska. The downside of her “drill baby drill” mentality; we are seeing in the Gulf. I am not against drilling; what I am against is giving the oil companies a free pass to to whatever they won’t. In addition to massive profit, the oil companies get Govt tax exemptions and subsides worth 100s of billions of $$. Last(?) year Exxon Mobile paid no net taxes to the US govt but when these guys screw up it the middle class working people who pay to fix the mess. Another example of American “Socialism”; privatize the profits, socialize the debts. I kinda like the Chinese system of “free for all capitalism”, their system has risks. If a CEO get caught, cutting corners that causes a problem or a govt official’s bribes causes a “problem”…9mm to the back of the head.

  • turndownobama

    SHV
    July 7th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    This is something Palin went after the oil companies in Alaska about. See “Palin governed from the center”
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    True..she said “use it (the leases) or loose it” and that got her on the sh*t list of the oil companies and the Repub. party bosses in Alaska. The downside of her “drill baby drill” mentality; we are seeing in the Gulf. I am not against drilling; what I am against is giving the oil companies a free pass to to whatever they won’t.

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    I may be too biased in Palin’s favor, but she did a good job in Alaska. She’s promoting drilling but she also got a great report done about alternate energy sources in Alaska; hopes to beat the national guidelines on that.

    She sure tamed the oil companies re drilling their reserves, and raised taxes on them and sent the money to the citizens. I’ve heard she put some safety and environmnetal restrictions on drilling; I’d expect her to have done equally well with those, but haven’t heard any detials.

    She had a point on Facebook: Nimby drove the drilling out to deep water where it’s less safe, instead of drilling on land (eg in ANWR) where it’s much more safe.

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