What Would Hillary Clinton Have Done? – America Thrown To The Wolves

President Hillary Clinton would never have given that mess of a speech last night. As Hwc wrote:

“Can you imagine Hillary Clinton’s Oval Office speech on the oil disaster? I can. She’d rattle off a 12 point action plan, right down to what kind of underwear Thad Allen would wear. She may not plug the leak, but you’d damn sure turn off the TV thinking she had a plan.”

There would have been no “Czar” appointed. Especially not an unknown “Czar” with an already full day time job. Hillary Clinton would have been in charge. An action packed Mama Grizzly. Big Media would mock her as “Czarina” of the Gulf Gusher. Barack Obama would have concocted fairy tales of how he would have voted against the oil gusher. But Hillary Clinton would have been in charge and in the lead.

Instead of an about to retire Thad Allen, Hillary would have searched out for someone who cares about the Gulf Coast culture and people with all his/her heart and soul – to be an informal and permanent “eyes and ears”. A well connected lover of the Gulf with a dash of Jean LaFitte and a recognizable loud mouth. Would that have been loudmouth Democratic operative James Carville and his loudmouth Republican wife Mary Matalin? You betcha!. We would not be surprised if Sarah Palin would find herself invited repeatedly to tour the Gulf with the original Mama Grizzly.

We easily picture President Hillary Clinton touring the Gulf, for days, in a boat – gutting fish and those who stood in the way of immediate action. James Lee Witt would have received a phone call the very hour the Deepwater Horizon went bad. The armada against invading oil would have been organized from the start and the first speech a few days after the crisis began would have been comprehensive and effective.

Of course we are engaged in speculation. No one knows for sure what specifically Hillary Clinton would have done. But we do know her history and her level of engagement. We also know what it is that Obama has done. History teaches.



His own wife says, “Barack spent so much time by himself that it was like he was raised by wolves.” Michelle of the “cold and ungrateful” scowl also has been “angry at his selfishness and careerism“. That’s the Barack Obama thus far hidden from the easily distracted.

“Raised by wolves.” So little wonder he chose as his new home the city filled with blood soaked, fatted cow, stockyards. He will prey.

Bereft of Grecian columns but soaked in Grecian formula to hide the grey wolf hairs, Barack Obama last night surrounded himself with symbols of normalcy. But there were no crowds to cheer and the words fell flat.

The words were always flat. But the crowd noise, the cheers from his keyboard armies, the silly Obama Girl and Obama Boy Youtube videos made it appear that the flat words were coming in smooth undulating waves of genius. But the words were always flat. Now even his Blog Boy fans and tingle leg blowhards know this. The American people know this too, with increasing anger.

Obama is responsible as the conman extraordinaire. But the ones who helped perpetuate the scam are responsible too. We see the price of their responsibility as it coats the Gulf of Mexico. The oil attacking the Gulf is of the same the thick unctuousness these children of the corn displayed to elect their Mess-iah.

America was thrown to the wolves by the very same people who last night finally expressed shock at the empty plaster saint who is their Superman Messiah.

We know who threw America to the wolves. We knew back in 2008:

“For Hillary Supporters, election 2008 taught us about how ugly our Party, the Democratic Party, could be. The blinders came off, eyes opened wide – sometimes in disbelief – at the similarities between the ugliest Republicans and the “best” Democrats. Democrats we had supported through thick and thin, like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi, proved to be as adept at double dealing and vileness as the most rancid Republicans.

We also saw how some of our fellow Democrats could be led by the nose in the same way we used to laugh at “mindless” Republicans. There are a lot of lessons learned.

* * *

For Hillary Supporters, the stink of a B.O. administration will not be a surprise.

We will not wake up having to apologize for the latest Obama blunder or the latest Obama flim-flam. We will nod our heads and acknowledge the reality of the great American blunder of 2008. We lost another bit of our innocence in 2008 but we are armed with reality in 2009.

The Hopium addled Obama supporters have a world of hurt coming to them.”

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139 thoughts on “What Would Hillary Clinton Have Done? – America Thrown To The Wolves

  1. http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/06/obama-oil-spill-address-draws-32-million.html

    Barack Obama’s first address from the Oval Office delivered 32.1 million viewers Tuesday evening. The speech ranks as the president’s second least-watched major cross-network primetime event.

    Obama discussed the Gulf Coast oil spill and called for energy policy changes. The 20-minute address was viewed across 11 networks — ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, TEL, UNI, CNN, CNBC, FOXNC, MSNBC, and TWC.

    The audience is down 33% from Obama’s first State of the Union address in January and down 21% from his last primetime speech announcing a strategy for U.S. involvement in Afghanistan last December.

    Of Obama’s major addresses, last night was the least-watched telecast yet. But the president’s health care reform press conference last July pulled a smaller audience, drawing 24.7 million.

  2. The chickens will come home to roost in November.

    Obama cheated his way into the White House, we haven’t forgotten and it’s time for his followers to see how incompetent he really is, at the expense of the Gulf Coast and American democracy.

    Madam President, we are still waiting for you!
    Please run again, Hillary!
    We need you.

  3. Boobs in charge:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/16/engineering-analysis-shows-packgen-boom-superior/

    After the federal bureaucracy finally got notified by Jake Tapper of an untapped inventory of boom that could be put to good use in the Gulf disaster, the Joint Command insisted that Packgen’s boom didn’t meet its quality standards. Packgen responded by having an outside analyst inspect its product. As Jake Tapper reports in his follow-up, it not only meets the standards but is actually superior to its competition:

    [Ian] Durham was recently hired by Packgen – the Maine packaging company that manufactured roughly 80,000 feet of boom that the US Coast Guard says failed an initial BP quality control test. Packgen president John Lapoint III has expressed frustration at BP/Coast Guard bureaucracy, insisting that the boom he’s making will work well in the Gulf, where boom is desperately needed.

    Durham would not say how much he was paid, but he says he’s generally paid $100 an hour for consulting, and his analysis of Packgen boom took rougly 40-45 hours.

    You can read Durham’s report HERE.

    He says Packgen’s boom is superior to other boom. Its woven polypropelene is “practically indestructible,” he says. “Packgen uses it to make toxic waste disposal containers.”

    Does Durham believe that the government and BP should be acquiring Packgen’s product? “Absolutely,” Durham tells Tapper.

    The excuse prior to this has been that Packgen’s product didn’t meet quality control standards and didn’t come with universal connectors. Packgen has already agreed to change connectors, even though the boom already being deployed doesn’t have them. This report demolishes the quality-control argument as well. These now appear to have been nothing but an excuse to distract people from the fact that the Obama administration’s team knew nothing of Packgen’s inventory despite media coverage of their production in anticipation of the demand in the Gulf.

  4. admin
    June 16th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    Can’t post this “celestial choirs” enough:
    _____________________

    My fave, Admin- for many reasons.

    A reminder, The Bumble Bee will “STING” to protect the hive.

  5. Admin says:

    “Can you imagine Hillary Clinton’s Oval Office speech on the oil disaster?”

    yes, I can- I can’t tell you what a pleasure it would have been to work for Hillary had she been facing this terrible catastrophe. We would have left our jobs temporarily (summer vacay) and gone to La to volunteer our help and done some wrangling on our own.

    There is nothing more satisfying than seeing a plan created for good remediating a dangerous, bad, scenario, coming to fruition

  6. More and more I think that voters are wondering “what Hillary would have done.” If anyone should be thrown under a bus now, it should be barack hussein obama, his wife, emanuel, pelosi, and on and on and on.

    If he wins another term, I give up.

  7. “And we’ve gotta start that right now because of an underwater leaking pipe 40 miles off Louisiana that we haven’t plugged and don’t really understand how it broke in the first place. So let’s do the electric car thing and build more windmills now.”

    Electric cars are complicated, can’t push on them now. But windmills are simple and have worked for centuries.

    So the main point is quite right — except that it’s not an either/or. Who is this monolithic ‘we’ that can only do one thing at a time?

    There are thousands of people who are ready and willing to progress with windmills and other green energy projects, if given just a little authorization and/or help from the government. There are few people who have any expertise in plugging an ‘unprecedented’ gusher in the ocean floor.

    The oil spill doesn’t need more money so much as competent leadership. It can have all the attention it can use — with plenty of attention and money left over to promote cleaner energy to prevent future oil spills.

  8. Shadowfax
    June 16th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    I’m kinda stuck on all those oil-eating microbes that when deployed they gobble up ALL the oil sitting in sea water. They live and thrive goobleing up oil until there isn’t anymore oil to gobble. Then they die!

    Why aren’t they being used to reduce the size of the huge slicks growing from the plumes?

  9. JanH
    June 16th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    More and more I think that voters are wondering “what Hillary would have done.”
    ___________________________

    And that is a good thing for us and for Hillary. Our best shot is removing Obama under threat of Impeachment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors or a full blown Impeachment if he doesn’t resign voluntarily . Biden moves up, chooses Hillary for VP- Further on down the road, Biden resigns and Hillary moves into the catbird seat… [sigh]

    I got it all figured out- Just have to wait to make it happen! 🙂

  10. Admin, here’s a better version of the now famous and proven correct “celestial choirs” speech without that talking head lady speaking over Hilldawg.

    If Hillary were in charge, the oil would not have been allowed to reach the coast. Period.

  11. JtJames, that Jon Stewart video (along with the updated Celestial Choirs and the Unicorns) is a “you’ve come a long way baby”.

    Comedy Central used to love to mock this website, but now it is Stewart who says Obama is “flim-flammery”. The whole video is a long list of Obama lies. Amazing.

  12. Shadowfax:

    The guy in his mother’s basement with the legos and the YouTube doesn’t have any idea what he’s talking about. He thinks they placed the first containment dome over the BOP.

    Seriously, BP can be faulted for lots of things, but the undersea effort to cap this well is not one of them. They have been doing incredible work down there. They are up against a very, very difficult problem.

  13. I love me some Krauthammer. He speaks power to truth and gives truth power. Long live Krauthammer.

  14. The oil eating microbes are already there. They live in the ocean. In fact, they are turning into super-microbes, devouring oil and multiplying like wildfire. This is a huge part of the mechanism that will slowly cleanse the Gulf, just as it did after the Itox spill.

    It’s not all a free lunch. In their super feeding frenzy, these oil-eatin’ microbes will deplete the oxygen, causing dead zones in the Gulf.

    The oil industry people working this thing have made lots of mistakes, but not they are not stupid. They understand the processes.

  15. PumaPAC has a quote from “Dissident Voice (a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice)” that essentially acknowledges that we were right all along. We did not need them to tell us we were/are correct about Obama, but we do like the way they sum it up.

    http://pumapac.org/2010/06/16/wow/

    Here is the quote:

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/06/gulf-crisis-implodes-presidency/

    All by himself and speaking from behind the most powerful desk in the world on Tuesday night, the President of the United States imploded his Presidency. Finally, the only people who make any sense any more are those who said from the very beginning that this man would not stand and deliver.

  16. ShortTermer
    June 16th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    I love me some Krauthammer. He speaks power to truth and gives truth power. Long live Krauthammer.

    Well, as long as he doesn’t favor the particular power. He was a notorius Clinton hater, and I wouldn’t call what he did “speaking truth”. He’s a far right wing conservative.

  17. I can not believe so-called Democrats foisted this light weight on us. Even Jon Stewart didn’t totally go for the juggular in that video. Whatever Obama is, he ain’t Frodo.

  18. mj, I find that Krauthammer is thoughtful, logical, well researched,and as you say, he may be conservative, but how is the ‘left wing’ in Obama working for ya? Left wing and right wing are the two wings of the same bird. I so wish we could get away from labels and adhere to the facts as we do our own individual research for the truth. I dare say that Krauthammer loves this country as set up by the founding fathers, do the Dims of the current administration? Food for thought.
    As I look to sooner than later to leave this land in the hands of my great-grandchildren, I wish to leave them a country worth having.I also do not wish for them to live in a dictatorship or in a serfdom. So call me whatever you wish. As I learn more about the current regime, the more conservative I get.

  19. I don’t consider Obama “left wing”, and I didn’t vote for him. Obama is “Obama wing”, and working out only for himself as far as I can tell. I never liked Krauthammer, since his huge Clinton bashing days. He is a right wing conservative. I doubt he’d argue with that.

  20. By the way, Kruthammer is a Canadian, and he may love this country in his way, but he hated Bill and Hillary Clinton.

  21. Admin
    Comedy Central used to love to mock this website, but now it is Stewart who says Obama is “flim-flammery”. The whole video is a long list of Obama lies. Amazing.

    ———–
    Good to see that Stewart is finally speaking out about Barry’s brand of lies and we can watch the videos again…sometimes.

    I noticed that the video did not speak of the Gulf Oil gusher, wonder why that was left out of the skit…maybe it was later or maybe he sides with the flim flam boy from the hood.

  22. JanH
    June 16th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    If he wins another term, I give up.
    ____________________________________
    He’s gone as soon as the next congress is seated. He’s got 6 more months to royally fuck even more shit up.

  23. hwc

    I’m just curious as to your background. I see you discard a lot of things that are put on the blog about the spill. I certainly don’t understand all that has happened and would appreciate real details if you have them that are more accurate.

  24. Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax

    I’m kinda stuck on all those oil-eating microbes
    ———
    I also heard somewhere…sorry, I have been reading things on so many sites, don’t remember where this came from…that the microbes work better in the shallow wetlands, not open sea…and I don’t think it has been tried in mass scale to find out if long term, it is safe.
    Honesty, I don’t know what is the best thing to fix this mess.

  25. Someone on Fox just said BP doesn’t have 20 Billion to give the Gulf, they would have to sell off stock or whatever.

  26. mj, I still don’t get it either. Remember how Obama voters couldn’t give concrete reasons for voting for him, other loving his “hopey changey” message? Heaven forbid they would’ve actually considered issues like who would better in a crisis,

  27. Short Termer,

    Obama is a conservative. He is consistently to the right of even the Bush administration. His stimulus was far too small, and to vague to effectively stimulate the economy and focuses to much on tax cuts – a right wing “remedy”. His health care bill was developed by the heritage foundation as a response to Hillary Clinton’s healthcare proposal of 1993 and was written by the insurance industry itself. he’s come to the right of the Bush administation on gay marriage, and has done more harm to women’s reproductive care rights than any GOP president.

    Everything Obama does is done to serve big business in America and if that’s who you are serving, then you are a conservative.

    Nearly everything Obama has done has been in absolute defiance of Democratic party platforms and principles. He is not recognizable as a Democratic leader.

  28. Love the Jon Stewart bit, and yet the coward still is only going after him with a feather.

    Loved how he gave props to Sarah Palin! I’ll bet anything Sarah lives rent free in that idiot Obama’s head.

  29. Shadowfax:

    I just have followed it pretty closely. TheOilDrum has been the best overall resource.

    I know they have failed so far, but the steps BP has taken, the things they have tried, and the order they have tried them in has been very impressive. This is just a nearly impossible situation. The smart guys in the industry knew early on that this thing would spew oil until the relief well is completed in August or September. It isn’t like the BP guys and all the underwater engineering companies aren’t smart enough to think of all the surefire solutions that appear on YouTube. There just aren’t any. All the talk of “nuking” the well and stuff is just absurd. I’m in awe of the fact that they are capturing any oil with this latest cap. That has been a very impressive operation. Watching the fleet of ROV’s place that cap last week was awesome. My god, those guys deserve commendation.

    I think the failure has been the cleanup/capture end of the operation along the shoreline. That does not appear to be well organized. IMO, that was where the government should have been expediting things. Telling BP what to try 5000 feet beneath the surface was a total waste of goverment resources.

    The big problem is that both BP and the government wanted to softpedal the true extent of the problem.

  30. BP is only expected to put $20 billion into the escrow account over a period of “several years”. It’s not a lump sum deal. The whole thing is pretty much a PR/political move.

    It’s actually good for BP because now the government takes the heat for every angry Cajun who feels like he deserved a better settlement. BP funnels money into the deal at pretty much the same rate they would have regardless.

  31. One of these days, one of these “sell my soul” for access media shills will finally connect the dots. “Gee Obama seems detached, lacks empathy, doesn’t connect with the “small people”, blah..blah…” well duh..he’s a fucking highly socialized sociopath.

    The Oval Office crap was the bes-test yet. He has thrown his most ardent D-riding followers under the bus and now it was a fuck you to all of his sycophants. He blamed everyone else for the problems but made sure that it was obvious that he didn’t care and that he didn’t care that his d-riders knew that he didn’t care. Sociopath!!!

  32. Hwc, exactly right on the escrow account. In addition the “kick the can down the road” strategy means that the complaints will come closer, ever closer, to the elections. This is another too clever by half political stunt that will backfire down the road.

    As we have repeatedly written about con men, it is always about keeping one step ahead of the law. In this case “kicking the can down the road” will eventually hurt because those “angry Cajun” types will be angry and ready to vote.

  33. I think the failure has been the cleanup/capture end of the operation along the shoreline. That does not appear to be well organized. IMO, that was where the government should have been expediting things. Telling BP what to try 5000 feet beneath the surface was a total waste of goverment resources.
    *******
    That is exactly right…The WH and Obot meme that BP knows best is pure bullshit. The Feds should have immediately taken over the oil recovery, shore protection and clean up. BP outsourced the relief well and bottom up kill operation to the experts and the Feds would/should have done the same. Letting BP hire fishing and recreational boats for oil recovery was/is pi** poor, ineffective and dangerous to the untrained people involved. Effective oil recovery requires highly specialized equipment, protected and trained people. Obama has wasted two months and massive damage to the environment because he considered the “spill” a distraction from golf and parties.

  34. admin, not sure if you have this clip, it was on the Colbert Report from 2008, in the middle of his beginning of the show, one of the stage lights go out, and then he goes, something to the effect, what shall we do?

    And then Hillary comes out, and then orders people to do this and that to fix that stage light. And she says something like experience matters, that’s why you hire someone with experience.

    I might have the details wrong, but it was from 2008.

  35. Shadowfax
    June 16th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
    Someone on Fox just said BP doesn’t have 20 Billion to give the Gulf, they would have to sell off stock or whatever.
    __________________

    BP stock is a stock cities and towns in the UK use for their long term investment portfolios similar to the caliber of investment stock promoted by Enron. The UK stated many cities and towns are invested in BP stock for their state’s pension and retirement plans just as Enron was invested here nationwide.

    Tony Hayward doesn’t care- He dumped most of his stock. He’s in the clear! Think about what happens if UK pension and retirement funds follow suit. BP goes BK.

  36. BP stock is not just in UK’s pensions, about 40% of their stock is in US pensions, the NJ teacher’s pensions, etc..

  37. You betcha it’s a metaphor!

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38636.html

    Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm says the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico has become a symbol that Barack Obama’s got to shake.

    “Everybody’s frustrated by the inability to cap the hole in the Gulf, and that’s become sort of a metaphor, perhaps, and that’s a challenge when you keep seeing this,” Granholm said in a wide-ranging interview with POLITICO Wednesday. “If you could cap that hole and start the cleanup, then I think that sort of shifts the paradigm.”

  38. hwc

    I think the failure has been the cleanup/capture end of the operation along the shoreline.
    ———
    I think a huge problem is the oil in the ocean that is somewhat mixed with the toxic disbursement. The fish, plants and the mammals are going to die in mass from it. The spill is toxic to the shoreline and is bad for the wetland animals and people.

    I can’t see BP with anything to admire yet, I am concerned that they are in over their head in fixing the problem and I hope to God I am wrong.

  39. Politico’s overview of the reaction to the speech:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38609.html

    President Barack Obama’s Oval Office address on the Gulf Coast catastrophe is being greeted with a barrage of criticism from commentators and political analysts across the ideological spectrum — the most intense negative reaction to any major public appearance he has given as president.

    If the goal was to change the widespread Washington storyline that Obama is not rising to the occasion for the BP debacle, it became clear within moments that the 18-minute speech was an emphatic failure — and not just among conservatives who predictably root for the president to fail.

    Junk Shot,” blared the headline at Huffington Post. Salon took a similar theme: “Just words: Oval Office speech fizzles.”

    Generally sympathetic commentators Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews likewise honked with critical reviews on MSNBC. Voices on the right, not surprisingly, were even more critical.[snip]

    But the withering reviews from the commenting class were so widespread that they created a new problem for a White House that already has a plateful. Common themes were that Obama did not project a sense of executive command and was too light on details about both the cleanup and the energy legislation he is pushing in the wake of the disaster.

    It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last 57 days,” said Olbermann on his show’s recap of the speech.

    He noted that there was “not even much of a pitch for his own energy bill which, as he mentioned, was passed by the House, which he did not mention was stalled in the Senate and still sits there.”

    “Nothing specific,” he added. “Nothing specific at all.”

    Appearing with Olbermann, “Hardball” host Matthews said Obama fell short in showing the American public that he is in charge.

    I don’t sense executive command,” Matthews said.

    Huffington Post, underneath a picture of Obama, linked to stories from its own writers on what he was “overlooking” and asking “what was the point of that terrible speech?” [snip]

    “I didn’t feel any energy in the first two-thirds of the speech in which he talked about cleanup. He’s not a cleanup guy. He’s a guy who dreams,” scolded Charles Krauthammer on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor.”

    “He said if we could land on the man on the moon, so why not have this glorious green energy? That’s the most tired trope we’ve ever heard,” Krauthammer continued. “People have said if you can land a man on the moon, so why can’t you cure cancer? Well, we can’t. We don’t know how to.”[snip]

    And one of the leading bloggers for the popular conservative site Hot Air opined that Obama’s rhetoric was “gassy and notably short on specifics.”

    Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin even suggested that capping the damaged well was not the president’s first priority during an appearance on Fox News.

    The pundit reaction wasn’t all bad for Obama.

    David Gregory, host of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” said the address showed Obama “wants to stand up and be a big consumer advocate” and “make sure the little guy on the Gulf Coast is going to get paid by BP.”

    Time’s Mark Halperin said the speech was “well-written and well-delivered.”

    Halperin, though, also pointed to the “negative insta-reaction from conservatives across the board” and was joined by many other leading journalists in highlighting flaws in the address.

    “The optimistic take, at least for environmentalists, is that this is the language and approach Obama uses when he really means to legislate,” wrote Ezra Klein, a liberal blogger for The Washington Post. “The pessimistic take is that Obama shied away from clearly describing the problem, did not endorse specific legislation, did not set benchmarks, and chose poll-tested language rather than a sharper case that might persuade skeptics.”

  40. The Oval Office crap was the bes-test yet. He has thrown his most ardent D-riding followers under the bus and now it was a fuck you to all of his sycophants. He blamed everyone else for the problems but made sure that it was obvious that he didn’t care and that he didn’t care that his d-riders knew that he didn’t care. Sociopath!!!
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    True. But he did ask for God’s help. He may lose a few atheists along the way, but just think of how many god fearing voters will now leap to his defense. Funny, I do not see many of them leaping—other than that depraved and deserved be defrocked Catholic sky pilot who was doing the Hillary bashing for Obama. Before venturing into his church I would practice throwing rotten tomatoes to make sure I did not miss. Or maybe a Lemmon Merange pie, so when he said praise the Lord, I could say and pass the ammunition.

  41. Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm says the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico has become a symbol that Barack Obama’s got to shake.
    ——————————-
    I am not sure how President Tarballs can shake the image of . . . Tarballs.

  42. wbboei

    I’d like to throw crude filled pies at Barry, while his is dressed in his white shirt and Dockers.

  43. hwc
    June 16th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
    Shadowfax:

    I just have followed it pretty closely. TheOilDrum has been the best overall resource.

    I know they have failed so far, but the steps BP has taken, the things they have tried, and the order they have tried them in has been very impressive. This is just a nearly impossible situation.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Actually BP failed when it chose to take safety short cuts and the Fraud was only too happy to oblige seeing as they donated incredible amounts of money to his campaign. BP had the worst safety record of ALL oil companies, is my understanding, BEFORE this disaster. There is NOTHING in my mind to commend them or this fool on the hill for.

    By the way, BP has only 7 billion net on the books right now per Fox news, so they are 13 million short as it is for the fund. I see them filing bankruptcy and we the tax payers will be sunk.

  44. Time’s Mark Halperin said the speech was “well-written and well-delivered.”

    Halperin, though, also pointed to the “negative insta-reaction from conservatives across the board” and was joined by many other leading journalists in highlighting flaws in the address.
    —————————–
    Well written?

    Well delivered?

    Even though it was bare as a goats ass and long as a whore’s dream???

    Hey, I have followed this joker Halperin since the time he worked for Bob Dole. He has become one of if not the most corrupt journalist in Washington, who is not dismissed out of hand as a charlatan. He needs to be. The reason he is shilling is because he and his idiot sidekick sig Heilman have been promised access for a tell all book he is writing on the White House. He is a terminal case of what SHV was referring to journalists who as selling their soul for access.

  45. Obama’s biggest and best critics will be his kids. I can imagine him coming to the dinner table and the kids give him the silent treatment OR- they go into a Michelle-like rant and ripping him up one side and down the other until they run him out of the room. His kids have to face the kids at school every day- They know the score and can be cruel and demeaning. Calling their father, the President of the Free World, a failure will be something the girls won’t soon forget.

  46. I’d like to throw crude filled pies at Barry, while his is dressed in his white shirt and Dockers.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    If you did that the bots would make run to the local department stores, buy their own white shirts and throw crude oil at each other to start a new fashion trend. Monkey see monkey do where those idiots are concerned.

  47. Mrs.Smith, sorry, this is not the article I was looking for, I had one that listed all the American pensions that had BP stock as part of their porfolio. I did not bookmark it, if I find it again I will post it for you.

    But, here is just a sample link that describes BP stock in NJ pension funds, they avoided a loss by selling right before the explosion. (But NJ is not the only state that has BP stock in its pension portfolio)

    http://cbs3.com/wireapnewsnj/NJ.pension.managers.2.1750724.html

  48. and I meant to add, the NJ pension fund is a consolidation of all state pensions, including the teachers pension fund.

  49. Shadowfax
    June 16th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
    wbboei

    I’d like to throw crude filled pies at Barry, while his is dressed in his white shirt and Dockers.
    ________________________________________________
    @wbboei “and pass the ammunition”.

  50. His kids have to face the kids at school every day- They know the score and can be cruel and demeaning. Calling their father, the President of the Free World, a failure will be something the girls won’t soon forget.

    Just a hunch, but I’m guessing their aren’t too many Obama haterz at Sidwell Friends.

  51. Hillary Hater Dick Morris has some sensible things to say tonight on the O’Reilly show. He noted how smart Bill Clinton was after 10 years as governor. Bill Clinton knew to get around the bureaucracy to get things done. Obama thinks if he sends a memo his job is done. If a speech is mouthed, his work is done. But Obama does not understand what any manager of even the tiniest organization knows: follow-up.

    A lot of what Morris said tonight comes from his latest column. We think the problems are bigger than Morris describes, but he is on target on the overall picture. Here’s Morris’ column:

    http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2010/06/16/dems-turn-on-obama/

    To the left, the oil spill is not an index of presidential competence or an issue in the political sphere. It is a daily gushing of poison into the Earth’s waters as a direct result of the president’s failure to stop it. They blame BP. But they already hate oil companies. And they blame Obama, too. And they are coming to dislike him.

    When Obama attempts to recoup this damage to his political base by pushing new legislation on the environment or by resurrecting his cap and trade legislation or by bringing criminal charges against BP or by setting up a liability fund for the spill’s victims, it does not solve his political problem. With each day, 60,000 gallons gush into the Gulf, Obama’s equivalent of the body count in Iraq that caused the left to loathe George W. Bush. Rhetoric or programs or visits to the Gulf or posturing won’t assuage the negatives. Only plugging the hole in the bottom of the ocean can do it.

    The right and center of American politics turned off Obama over health care. And now the left is leaving him over the oil spill.

    Why can’t Obama plug the hole?

    Because he has no administrative experience. I often saw Bill Clinton, as governor and as president, call in experts and ask the tough questions when he faced a new disaster. In Arkansas, it was tornadoes or floods or fires. In Washington, it was Oklahoma City. But, each time, he thoroughly familiarized himself with all the technical issues. He took a bath in the science and substance of the hazard and became as knowledgeable as those who had spent a lifetime studying it. So he knew what questions to ask.

    Any CEO or COO or manager has similar experience. But a community organizer, law professor, state senator, US Senator, and president doesn’t have the requisite experience. He doesn’t know not to trust his own bureaucracy. He hasn’t been burned enough to realize that he needs to intervene to waive restrictions, set aside regulations, and open up the process to new solutions. He’s like JFK during the Bay of Pigs. He doesn’t know how to avoid being betrayed by his own bureaucracy and the industry it’s supposed to regulate.

    Why did he not waive the Jones Act (he still hasn’t) to allow foreign vessels to ply our waters to clean up the spill? Not because he was against it. He couldn’t have been against so obvious a course as waiving it. It was likely because nobody told him about it and he never knew to ask.

    Why did he let the bureaucracy use only US contractors to dredge the Gulf and build the berms that Louisiana wanted? Why did he spurn the offer of Dutch assistance (half the country has been dredged from the sea and is below sea level)? Not because he wanted the jobs to go to Americans. That would have been an insane consideration in the face of this crisis. it is probably because he never realized that our capacity for dredging needed augmentation. Because he never asked.

    To the right and the center, these failings show that Obama is in over his head. But to the left, which bleeds for each drop of water in the Gulf and cries over every turtle or shrimp or sea bird, it is an unpardonable sin.

    It is the nature of things that presidential mistakes metastasize into presidential character flaws. Bush’s inaction over Katrina comes across as insensitivity. Now Obama’s incompetence and inexperience is causing liberals to see him as arrogant, aloof, removed, conceited, suspicious of outside advice, and even lazy. Long after the oil has stopped spilling, these supposed character defects will haunt the president, just as Carter’s reputation of timidity and inability lasted long after the Iran hostages came home. These defects will last until 2012 and beyond.

  52. Halperin, though, also pointed to the “negative insta-reaction from conservatives across the board” and was joined by many other leading journalists in highlighting flaws in the address.
    ———————-
    This is not exculpatory. It is inculpatory. It suggests that the negative reaction is confined to “conservatives” when in fact it exists across the ideological spectrum. The objection is not politically based, it is grounded in patriotism and concern for the welfare of this country. Halperin tries to pretend otherwise, and in the process reveals his sick bias.

  53. Just remember, if Granholm hadn’t signed the bill that had passed on a party line vote with only Republicans voting for it, Michigan’s primary wouldn’t have moved up and Roosevelt wouldn’t have a reason to dock Michigan half their delegates. And if half their delegates aren’t docked, well, Obama doesn’t become the nominee.

  54. If the elites run Obama again in 2012 they are asking for big trouble. Surely they realize that by now.

  55. Actually BP failed when it chose to take safety short cuts

    That is probably true. Although veteran drillers at TheOilDrum say that BP didn’t do anything that hasn’t been done many times on many wells. It’s not as cut and dried as Waxman makes it out to be. Like most major catastrophes, it took a particular combination and sequence of events to make it all go bad. Change one thing (for example, the BOP works) and it’s a different outcome.

    Be that as it may, I was refering to BPs action in the undersea effort since the Deepwater Explorer sunk. I can’t find anything they could have done differently or better to be honest. These are not dumb contractors working down there. These are the top minds in the biz coming up with very innovative ideas and doing some extremely difficult work.

    [quote]By the way, BP has only 7 billion net on the books right now per Fox news, so they are 13 million short as it is for the fund. I see them filing bankruptcy and we the tax payers will be sunk.[/quote]

    They aren’t putting $20 million into an escrow account tomorrow. That’s how much they’ll put in over a period of “several years”. They’ll probably start with $3 billion. This whole escrow account thing is mostly just a dog and pony show to make it look like Obama is kicking somebody’s ass.

  56. tim
    June 16th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
    Mrs.Smith, sorry, this is not the article I was looking for, I had one that listed all the American pensions that had BP stock as part of their porfolio. I did not bookmark it, if I find it again I will post it for you.
    _______________________________

    That would be great, Tim. Thanks for the info you posted. We have family invested in the Teachers pension fund. It would be great if you could find the list and post it.

  57. They aren’t putting $20 million into an escrow account tomorrow. That’s how much they’ll put in over a period of “several years”. They’ll probably start with $3 billion. This whole escrow account thing is mostly just a dog and pony show to make it look like Obama is kicking somebody’s ass.
    **************

    I understand that, but 7 billion in the face of this disaster really is not very much. I don’t know how they will survive it. Unless they are bailed out…

  58. Hedges, an honest man of the left, is very good on this stuff. The elites know the American People do not study the details of the candidates, but buy brands. Thus they give us a choice of brands, but not a choice of policies. They alone determine the policies. It took 8 years for brand Bush to go stale. Brand Obama is deteriorating four times as fast. There is a marketing book called Branding Is For Cattle. The author advances the view that branding is only as good as its proven ability to deliver. If there was ever any question about Obama’s ability to deliver results as opposed to rhetoric, and the consequences of his inability to deliver then surely those questions have been settled with finality through this world class example of executive incompetence. It is ridiculous to compare this incident to the Bay of Pigs. It is unprecedented.

  59. thank you hwc:

    Likewise, I have had the deepest admiration (while overall being saddened by this crisis) how they have been using the ROVs and the robots…..Who ever they are or whichever company they have come from, they are trying their best….

    The latest I am hearing is that this Maconda well maybe the largest oil field in North America and simply the pressure from underneath is just too much…..

    I read Hayward’s speech online and he mentions that 7 layers of safety measures that would/should have detected and normally stopped the flow just did not work….these 7 layers are managed/produced by different companies.

    And yes, 40% are US shareholders, 40% UK and the rest globally….and BP employs 20,000+ Americans and about 10,500 Uk personnel and the rest from elsewhere…

    “BP America” has about $50 billion in assets – 7 billion in cash….they will be selling some assests towards the 20 billion….

    Full Disclosure: I owned BP stock for many years but sold it 4 weeks ago.

  60. tim
    June 16th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    admin, not sure if you have this clip, it was on the Colbert Report from 2008, in the middle of his beginning of the show, one of the stage lights go out, and then he goes, something to the effect, what shall we do?

    And then Hillary comes out, and then orders people to do this and that to fix that stage light. And she says something like experience matters, that’s why you hire someone with experience.

    I might have the details wrong, but it was from 2008.

    ====================

    I remember that skit but I never watch Colbert. I think it was Letterman or Leno or someone like that.

  61. hwc
    June 16th, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    I don’t doubt they’re aren’t any haters at Sidwell. Children reflect what the see and hear at home in school. You can bet his kids are being pressured by their peers for action and success of that action. This is a huge issue unrelated to hate but related to action and production. I think I’ve written about this before. Initially, when his daughters asked him: “when was he going to get the hole plugged”… his public response I thought was childish, as if he were responding to his children with the ‘ass kicking’ comment, then the subsequent ‘I’m not superman’ comment. You get the idea.

  62. basement angel
    June 16th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Obama is a conservative. He is consistently to the right of even the Bush administration. His stimulus was far too small, and to vague to effectively stimulate the economy and focuses to much on tax cuts – a right wing “remedy”. His health care bill was developed by the heritage foundation as a response to Hillary Clinton’s healthcare proposal of 1993 and was written by the insurance industry itself. he’s come to the right of the Bush administation on gay marriage, and has done more harm to women’s reproductive care rights than any GOP president.

    Everything Obama does is done to serve big business in America and if that’s who you are serving, then you are a conservative.

    Nearly everything Obama has done has been in absolute defiance of Democratic party platforms and principles. He is not recognizable as a Democratic leader.

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    I agree with most of this post! But how does going far right on reproduction and gay rights serve big business?

  63. ShortTermer
    how is the ‘left wing’ in Obama working for ya? Left wing and right wing are the two wings of the same bird.

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    The real leftwing has its faults — but Obama is not part of it. His actions are rightwing.

  64. Hillary backstabber Robert Reich:

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/06/16/obama_missed_opportunity_open2010/index.html

    The man who electrified the nation with his speech at the Democratic National Convention of 2004 put it to sleep tonight. President Obama’s address to the nation from the Oval Office was, to be frank, vapid. If you watched with the sound off you might have thought he was giving a lecture on the history of the Interstate Highway System. He didn’t have to be angry but he had at least to show passion and conviction. It is, after all, the worst environmental crisis in the history of the nation.

    With the sound on, his words hung in the air with all the force of a fundraiser for your local public access TV station. Everything seemed to be in the passive tense. He had authorized deepwater drilling because he “was assured” it was safe. But who assured him? How does he feel about being so brazenly misled? He said he wanted to “understand” why that was mistaken. Understand? He’s the president of the United States and it was a major decision. Isn’t he determined to find out how his advisors could have been so terribly wrong?

    Tomorrow he’s “informing” the president of BP of BP’s financial obligations. “Informing” is what you do when you phone the newspaper to tell them it wasn’t delivered today. Why not “directing” or “ordering?”

    The president distinguished what has happened in the Gulf of Mexico from a tornado or hurricane because they are over quickly while the leak is an ongoing crisis, lasting many weeks and perhaps months more. He likened it to an “epidemic.” But the real difference has nothing to do with time. Tornadoes and hurricanes are natural disasters. Epidemics occur because germs mutate and spread. The spill occurred because of the recklessness and ruthlessness of a giant oil company in pursuit of profit.

    And what has the nation learned from all this? The same lesson we’ve known for decades, according to the president. We must end our dependence on oil. But if we’ve known this for decades, why haven’t we done anything about it? The president endorsed the cap-and-trade bill that emerged from the House (without calling it cap-and-trade) but didn’t call for the only thing that may actually work: a tax on carbon.

    I’m a fan of Barack Obama. I campaigned for him and I believe in him. I think he has a first-class temperament. I have been deeply moved and startled by his ability to speak about the nation’s most intractable problems. But he failed tonight to rise to the occasion. Is it because he’s not getting good advice, or because he’s psychologically incapable of expressing the moral outrage the nation feels?

    Or is it something deeper? Whether it’s Wall Street or health insurers or oil companies, we are approaching a turning point. The top executives of powerful corporations are pursuing profits in ways that menace the nation. We have not seen the likes not since the late nineteenth century when the “robber barons” of finance, oil, and the giant trusts ran roughshod over America. Now, as then, they are using their wealth and influence to buy off legislators and intimidate the regions that depend on them for jobs. Now, as then, they are threatening the safety and security of our people.

  65. In case anyone has missed it (no one should watch MSNBC) Rachel Maddow tonight gave her version of the speech Obama should have given. In her version Maddow said that Obama should enlist Hillary Clinton to get the best ideas from around the world on how to fight the oil catastrophe.

    Can you beat that? Maddow trashed Hillary to the guffaws of her few viewers and now wants Hillary to rescue the boob.

  66. On gay rights and reproductive health care, business doesn’t want to pay for the benefits. The bigger advantage is that he is able to advance causes that are dear to the heart of the constituency that big business relies on to vote their way.

  67. Report: Obama said ‘I Am a Muslim’
    (ht/ Pamela Geller/ American Thinker

    The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim.”

    That was the claim of Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit, as reported in the May 2010 issue of Israel Today. According to journalist Avi Lipkin, Gheit appeared on Nile TV’s “Round Table Show” in January, on which he said that “he had had a one-on-one meeting with Obama who swore to him that he was a Moslem, the son of a Moslem father and step-son of Moslem step-father, that his half-brothers in Kenya were Moslems, and that he was loyal to the Moslem agenda.”

    Obama allegedly said this in the context of reassuring Gheit that he would soon deal with Israel:

    He asked that the Moslem world show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American problems (Healthcare) [sic], that he would show the Moslem world what he would do with Israel.

    Could this be true? Even if Gheit’s claim isn’t true, or was misreported, every country in the free world must be cognizant of the catastrophic sea change that has taken place in the leadership of the free world — as witnessed by events over the past year. Barack Obama took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and yet whether he is a Muslim or not, he has undeniably gone around the world promoting Islam and Sharia (Islamic law).

    And now, if what Gheit says is true, we know why.

    The alleged exchange between Obama and Gheit would almost certainly have happened in early January 2010, when Gheit was in Washington, D.C. regarding “Mideast peace talks.”

    On Thursday, January 7, 2010, the Associated Press reported that “Clinton and Mitchell [were] scheduled to meet” with Gheit on Friday, January 8, 2010: see ABC news here.

    On Friday, January 8, 2010, Hillary Clinton and Gheit spoke with each other. The U.S. Department of State has provided video before the meeting: see the Department of State here.

    On Saturday, January 9, 2010, NPR spoke with Gheit about his visit: see NPR.org.

    This is a devastating claim, and yet no media outlet is covering it. Remember, during Obama’s campaign, I and others were excoriated for using his middle name. We were accused of implying he was a crypto-Muslim. We could not discuss his background, his Islamic schooling, his ties to Islam. However, I have meticulously documented his Muslim background in my soon-to-be-released book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America.

    It became all too clear after his election how proud Obama was of his Muslim name, background, and family. He made this plain when he gave his very first interview to Muslim media and boasted of these things. He suddenly became proud of the very things that were verboten to speak of during the campaign. That was the level of deceit and obfuscation.

    If Gheit’s reported claim is true, then Obama is a baldfaced liar. But why? Why lie if you have nothing to hide?

    Of course, if Obama believes himself a Muslim, then his prior behavior constituted taqiya — deception or lies to advance Islam. This he performed brilliantly during his election: He lied with brazen contempt. And now his Islamic Jew-hatred is made painfully clear in his stunning rebuke of Israel. In Israel Today, political analyst Aviel Schneider exposes some of the further implications of Gheit’s claim:

    That could explain why Obama has instructed that the term “Islamic extremism” no longer be used in official government documents and statements. Furthermore, the US is now accusing Israel of harming American interests in the Middle East. General David Petraeus, the head of US Central Command, said Israel’s intransigence on resolving the conflict with the Palestinians is endangering US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even the US Congress considers Obama’s behavior toward Netanyahu humiliating. Three-quarters of the House of Representatives, 337 of 435 members, signed a bipartisan letter to Clinton expressing “deep concern over recent tension” between the two countries, and demanding that it be smoothed over quickly and in private.

    “Obama is a real problem for Israel,” a senior official told told Yediot. “He is Israel’s biggest strategic catastrophe.” The newspaper also quoted another official who believes that for the first time Washington has switched sides. “The Obama White House is putting pressure only on Israel but does not expect anything from the Palestinians,” he said. “These American demands are unacceptable.”

    Is it any wonder that Obama’s counterterror adviser speaks Arabic, calls Jerusalem “Al-Quds,” and calls jihad a “legitimate tenet of Islam”?

    We know that Gheit met with Obama in April 2010 in D.C. — check out White House.gov, which lists Gheit as one of the attendees of a “Nuclear Security Summit” at that time. And they met more than once. Gheit had a private meeting with Obama in May 2009.

    Worse yet, Gheit just last month called Israel “the enemy.” This after Israel gave them the Sinai (which Israel had won in a defensive war and defended through another one) with all its oil in return for “peace.”

    How plausible is Gheit’s reported claim about Obama? Let’s review Obama’s track record:

    * March 2009: Obama declares the “war on terror” is over, despite a dramatic increase in jihad war ops.
    * March 2009: he floats the idea that he will talk to violent, genocidal Hamas.
    * March 2009: he demands that more Muslim Americans work in the Obama administration and insists that they be recruited.
    * April 2009: Obama tells Europe to admit Islamic Turkey into the EU, much to the consternation of the Europeans.
    * April 2009: Obama demands that non-Muslims respect Islam (despite our differences) in a speech in Turkey.
    * April 2009: Obama says in a speech from Turkey, “We are not a Christian nation.”
    * April 2009: Dalia Mogahed, the first hijab-clad senior adviser to Obama on Muslim affairs, says in an interview with terrorist- and jihad-supporting Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi’s website, “Many have claimed that terrorists have ‘hijacked Islam.’ I disagree. I think Islam is safe and thriving in the lives of Muslims around the world. What the terrorists have been allowed to take over are Muslim grievances.”
    * April 2009: Obama lays groundwork for a partnership with Hamas.
    * May 2009: Obama promises to offer his “personal commitment” to Muslims.
    * May 2009: Obama calls America “one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet.”
    * June 2009: Obama invites the Muslim Brotherhood, a violent global jihadist group whose sole objective is a universal caliphate, to his speech to the ummah (Muslim community) in Cairo.
    * June 2009: Obama makes a stunning speech to the Muslim world from Al Azhar University in Cairo. It defies explanation.
    * July 2009: Obama reaches out to the violent jihadists of Hezb’allah.
    * July 2009: Obama creates a new office at the State Department, Outreach to the Worldwide Muslim community, reporting directly to Hillary Clinton.
    * July 2009: The State Department Welcomes Hamas mouthpiece Al-Quds TV to D.C. to filmpPropaganda.
    * Obama promises to close GITMO.
    * Obama is rebuked when plans are revealed for CIA prosecutions for 911 interrogations: Seven Ex-chiefs of CIA Oppose Case Review: ALL Sign letter to Stop CIA Persecutions.
    * In July 2009, Obama sanctions the brutal crackdown of those marching for freedom in Iran and sides with the mullahcracy. He stands silent about the Iranian regime’s mass executions, mass rape, and murder.
    * July 2009: Obama plans to slash the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
    * September 2009: Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton on Obama at the U.N.: “This is the most radical anti-Israel speech I can recall any president making…I have to say I was very shaken by this speech.”
    * October 2009: Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund.
    * November 2009, Fort Hood Jihad Coverup: Obama Urges Congress To Put Off Fort Hood Probe, Warns Against Turning Tragedy Into “Political Theater”
    * November 2009: Obama offers the Taliban control of the Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Kunar, and Nuristan provinces, in return for a halt to the Taliban missile attacks on U.S. bases.
    * November 2009: Obama reaches out to bloodthirsty jihadis in the Philippines.
    * On Thanksgiving eve, Obama issues a special Hajj message to the world’s Muslims.
    * December 2009: Obama’s “Non-Religious” White House Christmas and No Christmas Gifts for his Kids.
    * February 2010: Obama names a Hafiz to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. “And as a hafiz of the Koran, [Hussain] is a respected member of the American Muslim community,” Obama said in his message to the Doha meeting, using the Arabic world for someone who has memorized the Islamic holy book.
    * February 2010: Obama cuts U.S. space program, orders NASA to work with Muslim countries
    * February 2010: Covering up for jihadists in the White House.
    * Obama’s counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, Involved in Obama Passport Breach
    * March 2010: Obama Obsession with Islam: Calls “entrepreneurship summit” with Muslims.
    * April 2010: Libyan President Gaddafi Praises Obama: “Barakeh Obama is friend”; “He is of Muslim descent, his policy should be supported…”
    * May 2010: Obama’s Counterterrorism Adviser Calls Jihad “Legitimate Tenet of Islam.”
    * May 2010: White House Pro-Terrorism John Brennan Speechifies in Arabic, Equates Terrorists with Shoplifters, Lawmakers Call for his Firing.
    * June 2010: Obama equivocates on the jihad warship convoy (affectionately named a “flotilla” by the media): Obama “Expressed a Deep Regret Over Loss of [Jihadist] Life”
    * June 2010: Obama administration to Support Anti-Israel Resolution at U.N.

    And earlier this week, Obama became the first president to host a press conference with the American flag nowhere in sight.

    Ouch. What a disgrace.

    Now: will the lapdog media make Obama address Gheit’s claim?

    The American people deserve answers. But whether or not what Gheit reportedly says is true, Obama’s pro-jihad track record is clear.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/report_obama_said_i_am_a_musli.html

  68. How does prosecuting the CIA for breaking the law reveal a pro-Jihad agenda? I think they should prosecute those guys to the letter of the law and throw a whole lot of ’em in jail.

    This just reads like a list of right wing grievances dressed up in an anti-muslim robe for easier sale.

  69. Admin I heard, I was in the kitchen making a bite to eat and I heard the clinton name uttered, hit the rewind and was stunned. I also heard someone in the last few days I believe it may have been tingles ask about Hillary on the ticket as VP to help save the one. He asked who ever he was interviewing if he would vote for Obama in 2012 and he replied do you want to get me in trouble, he also noted that Hillary was doing a great job where she was.
    I was also just over at the Daily mail and was reading the BP article on how the pensioners in Britain were going to take a hit in their pockets from BP escrow fund, and this jumped out at me…. an interesting way to deal with failure and I’m not talking about the BP execs!!

    Vietnamese-born Congressman Joseph Cao went so far as to suggest that the only honourable way for BP bosses to atone for the environmental crisis was to commit suicide.
    ‘In the Asian culture we do things differently,’ he said. ‘During the samurai days, we’d just give you a knife and ask you to commit hara-kiri.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287222/BP-oil-spill-British-pensioners-pick-BP-compensation-fund.html#ixzz0r5AIZ1ua

  70. It’s all very well to sympathize with the British stockholders who were relatively innocent. But the Gulf residents and the animals were TOTALLY innocent.

    It is the stockholders’ responsibility to choose good executives, and the stockholders ARE liable for the damages the company causes.

  71. People like maddog are desperate. He is sinking in quicksand and people like her are going down with them. Their stupid idea to enlist Hillary to help him is no different from what Gelb was talking about. Hillary must not consider such a move. This guy needs to be relegated to the dust bin of history. Nobody should save him, least of all her. That is not in the interests of the country.

  72. ’m a fan of Barack Obama. I campaigned for him and I believe in him. I think he has a first-class temperament. I have been deeply moved and startled by his ability to speak about the nation’s most intractable problems. But he failed tonight to rise to the occasion. Is it because he’s not getting good advice, or because he’s psychologically incapable of expressing the moral outrage the nation feels?

    Or is it something deeper? Whether it’s Wall Street or health insurers or oil companies, we are approaching a turning point. The top executives of powerful corporations are pursuing profits in ways that menace the nation. We have not seen the likes not since the late nineteenth century when the “robber barons” of finance, oil, and the giant trusts ran roughshod over America. Now, as then, they are using their wealth and influence to buy off legislators and intimidate the regions that depend on them for jobs. Now, as then, they are threatening the safety and security of our people.
    ————————–
    The Harvard dwarf is a stupid ass. The question is not whether the robber barons are running roughshold over this country. That is a given. The question is why do people like the Harvard dwarf go on extolling the imaginary virtues of the very man who is letting the robber barons get away with it? Is it because they both went to Harvard, or are they just slow learners?

  73. TurnDownObama, there are a lot of other BP stockholders. One of the difficulties in the interwoven economies is that so many are invested in so many. Greek debt is owned by a lot of countries so Greek debt crisis cannot be ignored. This is not to make excuses but the “who gets hurt” answer is complex. Americans own half of BP and pension funds own a huge amount of that. The NYTimes had a short rundown on BP stockholders:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/business/energy-environment/17investors.html?src=busln

    Just how big is this oil spill, really? For BP shareholders, about $88 billion big — and growing.

    That is roughly how much money investors have lost on paper as the oil giant’s share price has plunged. And, in the grim calculus of the spill — the lives and livelihoods lost, the barrels of oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico — the financial toll keeps mounting, too.

    BP is so big, and its stock is so widely held, that its troubles are being felt throughout the investment world. Large insurance companies in Britain, big money management companies in the United States, government-controlled investment funds in Norway, Kuwait, China and Singapore rank among the company’s largest stockholders. BP may be British, but Americans own half its stock.[snip]

    No single institution has more money riding on BP than BlackRock, the money management firm that is BP’s largest shareholder. On behalf of clients, BlackRock funds held more than 1.1 billion shares, or 6 percent of the shares, as of the end of last year.

    Along with Barclays Global Investors, which BlackRock owns, the combined stock was worth $14.57 billion on April 20. But as of Wednesday, those shares were worth about $7.5 billion.[snip]

    Governments, too, have lost big on an investment that, for them, has been both financial and strategic. [snip]

    Public pension funds in the United States are reviewing their BP investments. The State of Wisconsin Investment Board, which holds $30 million in BP stock as part of an indexed investment that tracks the broader market, is monitoring the developments closely, said Vicki Hearing, a spokeswoman for the board. Its BP investment represents a small fraction of the fund’s $74.8 billion in assets.[snip]

    The Teacher Retirement System of Texas, for instance, has sold several million shares in recent weeks, bringing its BP holdings to an estimated 14 million shares. The board is scheduled to meet on Thursday, and BP could come up , said Howard J. Goldman, a spokesman.

    Tim Hoyle, vice president for research at Haverford Investments, said his firm sold its shares in BP in early May, when the spill was still relatively young. [snip]

    “They think the government is going into a lynch mob mentality,” said Fadel Gheit, a managing director at Oppenheimer Funds. “The worst for investors is uncertainty.”

    Among analysts, BP’s decision to suspend dividend payments and create a cleanup fund had been widely expected. Many were hoping BP would start to quantify its potential liabilities.

    Some large sovereign funds see the share as a buying opportunity.

    But Thomas S. Hull, the chief investment officer at Lowry Hill Investment Advisors, said it was nonetheless difficult to assess BP’s stock given the lingering uncertainties. “It’s difficult to value a company in this situation,” he said. His firm sold a significant portion of its BP holdings early last month.

    BP, for its part, said in a statement on Wednesday that its board “remains strongly committed” to resuming dividend payments and “delivering long-term value to shareholders.”

    But Mr. Gheit, the Oppenheimer analyst, said that investment funds that required dividends under their charters, like pension funds, would now be forced to sell their BP shares, if they hadn’t already. And, given the potential cost of the cleanup, BP may not be able to share its profits with shareholders again soon.

    “We know the dividend will be suspended for three quarters,” after which there will be a board review, Mr. Gheit said. “But there is nothing sure.”

    We read somewhere that the Teacher’s Pension fund in New Jersey will lose $40 million from the lack of dividends. Risk takers should be punished by the markets but that still does not mean that innocents will not be hurt financially. It’s a sad situation and one we attribute to the lack of power shareholders have.

  74. More on BP stockholders:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/06/the_collateral_damage_to_beati.html

    According to marketwatch.com, at least eight state pension plans, including teachers’ pensions, have at least a million shares of BP. A partial list is sobering at a time when state budgets are being devastated by the recession:

    New Jersey: 51 million shares of BP
    California: 36 million shares
    Pennsylvania: 7 million
    Alabama: 4.5 million
    Texas: 4.1 million
    Washington: 1.2 million
    Illinois: 1.1 million
    Ohio: 1.1 million

    The loss to these plans alone since the spill and the relentless political attacks has been about $3 billion, assuming they kept their shares.

  75. jtjames
    June 17th, 2010 at 1:30 am
    like I posted wbboei, the Asian culture has an interesting way of dealing with failure!
    ————————————-
    Yes. It is called termination with extreme prejudice. In my opinion, Obama is the guilty of the white collar crime of benign neglect, But if he was charged then he would undoubtedly claim sovereign immunity. Thus the only effective the remedy for his transgression is at the ballot box.

  76. admin

    In case anyone has missed it (no one should watch MSNBC) Rachel Maddow tonight gave her version of the speech Obama should have given. In her version Maddow said that Obama should enlist Hillary Clinton to get the best ideas from around the world on how to fight the oil catastrophe.

    Can you beat that? Maddow trashed Hillary to the guffaws of her few viewers and now wants Hillary to rescue the boob.
    ———-
    As if the Clinton’s aren’t working their buns off to save the Democrats, Haiti, America, women and children all over the planet and all the obots can think of is more ways they need to help Obama out.

    Maybe Bill can save poor countries, stump for all incumbent Dems, fix Haiti, run his company and run to the White House when ever BO needs help figuring out how to be pResident.

    Hillary needs to be SoS, fly nonstop around the world to speak for the Fraud, be a Supreme, be VP, be Sec of Defense………..

    Where does the need stop?

    She should be our President and everyone now knows it.

  77. Plugging the hole in the Gulf of Mexico SHOULD NOT have anything to do with politics…if anyone know (Hillary or anyone) people then they should be called to duty.

    This is beyond if she has to help him…personally we just need to plug the hole…after that he should be on his own to clean it up…but no way, no how should politics get into this gusher…its a national emergency.

  78. BP is so big, and its stock is so widely held, that its troubles are being felt throughout the investment world
    ———————————
    Well, here is the perfect solution in Obamaworld: first you call them out and kick their ass. Second, you drive them into bankruptcy. Third, you have Pelosi and Eeid pass yet another taxpayer bail out bill because they are Obama contributors, payed to play and are too big to fail.

  79. Can you beat that? Maddow trashed Hillary to the guffaws of her few viewers and now wants Hillary to rescue the boob.

    I say the same thing to Rachel “Rosanne Rosannadanna” Maddow as I would say to Jack Welch (who was whining about Obama today, too):

    Bite me.

  80. Well, here is the perfect solution in Obamaworld: first you call them out and kick their ass. Second, you drive them into bankruptcy. Third, you have Pelosi and Eeid pass yet another taxpayer bail out bill because they are Obama contributors, payed to play and are too big to fail.
    ——

    Yup, so it all comes down to the cost lands in the laps of American taxpayers again. Obama will be long gone from office while we pay for his stupid mistakes for generations. He will go down in history alright…

  81. Dan Froomkin, of the Obama loving Huffington Post can go screw himself too. Now that it is too late he writes this attack on “words” versus action. Froomkin should watch Hillary’s “celestial choirs” speech as he describes Obama’s inability to confront people and “failed systems”:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/obamas-speech-not-the-tur_n_614273.html?ir=Politics

    The most depressing thing about President Obama’s profoundly underwhelming speech Tuesday night was that the White House thought it would change everything, when there was no good reason to think it would change anything.

    White House aides had excitedly announced that the speech — his first from the Oval Office — would be an “inflection point,” somehow turning eight weeks of growing anxiety about the disaster in the Gulf and the government’s response in a positive new direction.

    But vague generalities and empty, convictionless rhetoric just don’t have that effect — certainly not in the midst of a real, concrete national emergency.

    How unmoored from reality are Obama and his top advisers to think that some pretty words with so little substance could accomplish so much? It makes me wonder: Was that ultimately the lesson they took from the 2008 campaign — rather than that a nation was hungering for, you know, actual change?

    And how much power do they invest in the trappings of the presidency, such that they thought the Oval Office setting would make his feeble call to action so commanding that it would suddenly, benevolently redirect the public’s visceral outrage over the oil spewing from the sea floor, the perfidy of BP, and the sluggishness of the government response?

    I don’t blame the speechwriter. I blame Obama, or Rahm Emanuel, or David Axelrod, or whoever it was who ultimately decided that words, rather than action, were the best way to change the perception that the government isn’t doing enough in the Gulf.[snip]

    But that would have meant admitting mistakes (from the Oval Office, no less) and would have entailed confronting people and failed systems, something it turns out Obama seems strongly averse to doing.[snip]

    Saying “the one approach I will not accept is inaction,” as he did, is more a relinquishing of power than an application of it.

    And though it was the strongest part of his speech, his disquisition on weaning the nation from fossil fuels still wasn’t even as strong as George W. Bush’s patently insincere but rhetorically effective assertion that “America is addicted to oil.”[snip]

    Courage? Where has the courage been in Obama’s response to the oil spill? Where was the courage in this speech? Courage would have been calling it like it is, holding those who have failed accountable, standing up for something, and charting a clear and detailed path to a better place.[snip]

    By contrast, Obama’s ambivalent mush is getting ripped apart by both the right and the left this morning. Being attacked from all sides is, unfortunately, some people’s notion of good political journalism, but it’s nobody’s idea of effective political leadership.

    As for inflection points, there may have been one on Tuesday night after all, just not the one the White House was hoping for. This week could, ultimately, mark the point at which the public, and the media, start actively discounting what the president says, judging him instead on what he does and doesn’t do.

  82. Well, here is the perfect solution in Obamaworld: first you call them out and kick their ass. Second, you drive them into bankruptcy. Third, you have Pelosi and Eeid pass yet another taxpayer bail out bill because they are Obama contributors, payed to play and are too big to fail.

    ===================

    Fourth, you just give BP a lot of money with no strings attached, and HOPE they will do something good with it.

  83. Regardless of where the BP stockholders live, and how “little power” they had — still the people and animals of the Gulf had NO power in this situation. The physical needs of the innocent should come before the on-paper losses of the guilty.

    If you want to soften the blow for BP, then spread the loss over the rest of the oil industry, and the oil lobbyists, their advocates in government and journalism, etc.

  84. Did I miss this? and why am i not surprised. I guess no coverage of it.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/more-testimony-on-blago-financial-deals-on-tap.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChicagoBreakingNews+%28Chicago+Breaking+News%29

    Blago defense tries to link kickback to Obama contribution

    The defense for Rod Blagojevich tried today to link money from a kickback scheme to President Barack Obama.

    Joseph Aramanda, a business associate of insider Antoin “Tony” Rezko, acknowledged he donated $10,000 to Obama’s campaign when he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004. Aramanda said he did so at Rezko’s request.

    The contribution came days after Aramanda had picked up a $125,000 check while acting as a middleman in what prosecutors allege is a corrupt inside investment deal involving Rezko, Blagojevich and two other top aides. There was no evidence Obama would have known the contribution might be tainted.

  85. http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/blagojevich-on-trial/2010/06/prosecutors-want-gag-order-on-blagojevich-defense-lawyers.html

    Hmm Prosecutors want gag order on Blagojevich, defense lawyers …….

    Prosecutors or the WH?

    Federal prosecutors are seeking a gag order to keep ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his lawyers from making public comments, saying Blagojevich has attempted to manipulate media coverage to gain favorable attention and influence the jury in his corruption case.

    In a 16-page filing today with U.S. District Judge James Zagel, prosecutors said Blagojevich and his attorneys made comments to reporters Tuesday at the end of testimony by government witness Alonzo “Lon” Monk, Blagojevich’s former friend and chief of staff.

    Prosecutors said Blagojevich and his counsel “made statements to the press, on camera, giving their takes on Monk’s testimony, and in particular, his credibility, in what essentially amounted to mini-closing arguments on the topic.”

    Prosecutors cited the scores of interviews Blagojevich has conducted leading up to the trial and the fact he has hired a public relations firm in an effort, they said, to sway the jury.

    “Blagojevich used these platforms to try his case in the public realm, often going beyond declaring innocence and instead representing pretrial developments in the court case and making inflammatory comments regarding the prosecutors,” the government said in its filing.

    Prosecutors are asking Zagel to issue a gag order that would prohibit the parties and counsel, during the trial, from making “extrajudicial statements that a reasonable person would believe could be publicly disseminated, expressing opinions, questions, or commentary regarding the merits of this case.”

    read on………

  86. Last line of article (or similar) MOP linked to at 7:52 am:
    Obama’s own issues with Rezko are well-documented. When he ran for president, Obama returned tens of thousands of campaign donations linked to the corrupt fundraiser.
    newsblogs dot chicagotribune.com/blagojevich-on-trial/2010/06/defense-tries-to-connect-kickback-donation-to-obama-.html

    Really?

  87. and another link:
    Era of Obama rhetoric is over
    Examiner Editorial
    June 17, 2010
    President Obama’s Oval Office speech Tuesday marked the end of an era — an era in which at least half the population believed any crisis could be defused by one man’s supposed rhetorical genius and personal charisma. The derisive reception of President Obama’s Tuesday night speech from the Oval Office on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill makes it clear that Obama’s sweet voice no longer suffices, not even for his biggest boosters.
    www dot washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Era-of-Obama-rhetoric-is-over-96490264.html

  88. Actually stockholders have total power. They could have invested in green energy instead of in oil.

    If you don’t want to risk your money, take it out of industries that risk the planet.

  89. The most depressing thing about Obama’s profoundly underwhelming speech Tuesday night was that the White House thought it would change everything, when there was no good reason to think it would change anything.

    But vague generalities and empty, convictionless rhetoric just don’t have that effect – certainly not in the midst of a real, concrete national emergency.
    ——————————–
    This has got to be a terrifying moment for the elites and his household handlers. The public is ready to skin him alive at the polls for letting this mega disaster happen. He can dismiss them as bitter, clinging racists all he wants but their ranks are growing. What Obama and his White House manipulators cannot quite cotton however is the scathing reaction of his amen corner in the press. They gave him a pass before and turned his chicken shit into chicken salad as with the race speech which preceded a precipitous drop in race relations thanks to the post racial candidate. But here he is dealing with a national emergency and he cannot summon the courage to act. Thus, his amen corner is on the defensive, he has put them there and they can no longer cover for him because their own credibility is now on the line, in ways that it was not on the line before. They still hope to be thought of as serious people, as opposed to shills or fools. But time is running out.

  90. No letup to the Obama bad news:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-jobless-apf-1639241920.html?x=0&.v=3

    The number of people filing new claims for jobless benefits jumped last week after three straight declines, another sign that the pace of layoffs has not slowed.

    Initial claims for jobless benefits rose by 12,000 to a seasonally adjusted 472,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. It was the highest level in a month and overshadowed a report that consumer prices remain essentially flat.

    First-time jobless claims have hovered near 450,000 since the beginning of the year after falling steadily in the second half of 2009. That has raised concerns that hiring is lackluster and could slow the recovery.

    The four-week average for unemployment claims, which smooths volatility, dipped slightly to 463,500. That’s down by 3,750 from the start of January.

    “Most market economists have been expecting claims to fall below 450K for several weeks now,” said Kevin Logan, an economist with HSBC Securities. “The wait is getting longer and longer. As each week goes by, doubts about the underlying strength of the economic expansion grow.”

  91. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-six percent (46%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

    46% STRONG DISAPPROVAL. HIGHEST YET.

    Overall, 43% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-six percent (56%) now disapprove.

  92. Oh and Blanche Lincoln may as well just pack up and go home.

    Republican John Boozman now holds a near two-to-one lead over Democratic incumbent Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas’ U.S. Senate race, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state.

    Election 2010: Arkansas Senate

    John Boozman (R)61%
    Blanche Lincoln (D)32%
    Some Other Candidate 4%
    Not Sure 3%

    A 29% lead. Oh yeah she’s toast.

  93. Sorry just have to post this, so wonderful, it made me cry….makes you feel good to know that kind of love is still around, 72 years married and he renews his vows with just before he dies.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1287185/Dying-man-renews-marriage-vows-purely-wonderful-wife-72-years-hospital-bed.html

    Dying man renews marriage vows with ‘purely wonderful’ wife of 72 years from his hospital bed

    With just days left to live Vernon McAlister made his dying wish come true by renewing his wedding vows with Sue, his wife of 72 years.

    Mr and Mrs McAlister took part in the ceremony at Hospice of the Upstate in Anderson County, South Carolina, USA, reports IndependentMail.com.

    After having a dream that his wife wanted to marry him again, Mr McAlister asked the nurses to help him stay alive a few more days so they could celebrate their 72nd anniversary together.

    ……………………………

  94. Like I have always said, economics is a historical study, and yet we pay so much for these opinions to tell us the future. In my opinion, they are no bettr than fortune tellers, onl they have degrees.

    Admin 9:58

    “Most market economists have been expecting claims to fall below 450K for several weeks now,” said Kevin Logan, an economist with HSBC Securities. “The wait is getting longer and longer. As each week goes by, doubts about the underlying strength of the economic expansion grow.”

  95. I saw Oprah today on John King’s show on CNN…She said she just CAN’T imagine what people expect the President to do….how’d I know she’d say that?? LOL!

  96. well Obama pretty much promised them the earth, so come on then big mouth Oprah, you put him up there on the pedestal, your as much to blame and i’m holding your feet to the fire for it.

  97. just tell me how this “dog and pony” show going on in the nation’s capital is helping the situation on the Gulf? We still don’t have enough skimmers, we still don’t have a “go to person”. The folks that are fighting the oil, have no one to talk to about getting things done. Its all politics, all the time…just in time for November.

    COde Pink was at the hearing…it was quiet interesting.

  98. Moon, Lets put her in the same cell as Obama when we find out he let this get worse for political reasons.

  99. confloyd
    June 17th, 2010 at 11:23 am
    I saw Oprah today on John King’s show on CNN…She said she just CAN’T imagine what people expect the President to do….how’d I know she’d say that?? LOL!
    *******************************************

    Oprah and all the O apologists…emphasis Joe S and Mika…geesh!…ridiculous…
    should talk to Rudy Guliani…I happened to catch a few segments of Morning Joe this AM…which i do not watch because besides being on MSNBC…it is a silly, silly show…all self promoters patting each other on the back…and can no longer stand Danny Deutch…he is really creepy…

    …but…say what you or I will about Rudy Guiliani…this morning he NAILED O…if anyone has what Rudy said on utube it should go viral…Rudy ticked off everything O did wrong from Day One…and he concluded that O gets an F in CRISIS MANAGEMENT…O did everything wrong…(Dylan Ratigan and Cramer were also there to back up Rudy)

    btw…what is with Mika and Joe…do they get extra bonsuses for protecting O on air??? Mika is at the point of being absurd…and Joe S…he has lost it in exchange for his new celebrity…

    …at one point Rudy actually said to Mika, as she was going way out of her way to pooh pooh anything substantive that O could have done…Rudy said “Mika, I know you love O and want to protect him but he failed in crisis management and I can list many more things he did wrong”

    Rudy, good job…just don’t run for Prez…

  100. Please, always add Amy Klobuchar and Betty McCullom to your list of names “like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi”. Two bigger traitors to the true democratic party are hard to find and I am so happy you are including the “enablers” they need to be tarred and feathered.

    I voted for Klobuchar because she said she would fight for real health care reform. When she sold out Hillary I knew she was only one of the nose ring senators and her “real” health care reform meant something different then the Real Health Care Reform MN democrats had been fighting for for years.

    Way last May of 2007 an aide to Klobuchar told me she was supporting Obama because she felt he was the best candidate. For the past month I called her office repeatedly and asked her to announce her retirement because she was either too compromised or too stupid to represent the people of MN.

  101. Mid way through his first term in office (the first of three since Sunstein is changing the Constitution to remove the two term limit), Barack Insane Obama is becoming what Hamlet spoke of, namely “a walking shadow, a poor player who struts and frets his hour on the stage and then is heard no more, a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.”

  102. Over at CW, I learned that Obama was meeting with 41 Wednesday and also said that Rahn has said an important new announce will be made soon…where do they get this information?

  103. confloyd, what is CW?

    BTW, I despise toe-sucker Dick Morris, but that column is right on the money. Has anyone else in the MSM asked why foreign help with the oil spill hasn’t been accepted?

  104. w

    This has got to be a terrifying moment for the elites and his household handlers. The public is ready to skin him alive at the polls for letting this mega disaster happen.

    —–
    And well the elites should be for thinking they were so much smarter than the American public.

    The smoke and mirrors have been exposed and voters are sharpening their pitchforks……look out boys, we’re coming to get ya!

  105. Paula, Of coarse not. The media asked what Obama will let them ask. I have NO idea how we will ever get this information.

    CW-citizen wells

  106. admin
    June 15th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    He’s wearing a flag lapel pin now. Before he disdained such dreary decoration.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    Which country? Cuba? Haiti? Iran? North Korea? Saudia Arabia?

    I mean, if you are the Great Conciliator, and Nobel Peace Prize Winner, you don’t represent the USA, you represent The World!

  107. S, that freaking Mika is just awful…she sneers when someone asks or makes a statement against Obama…she is NO freaking reporter…she is a propaganda reader and that all she is…what kind of money do these puppets make anyway…anyone know???

    I have enjoyed watching Anderson Cooper, he is trying to do some honest reporting, but you can tell he flinches everytime someone says something Obama needs to do. He has been doing this more since the pulitzer prize winning speech a couple of days ago.

    I am beginning to think that the boyz from the “chicago man’s club” is running our government and they are all either blackmailed or are working in unison with Obama.

  108. admin
    He’s wearing a flag lapel pin now.
    ——
    I watched his Oval office play, and did notice the pin……..wondered why he bothered.

  109. He’s playing to play all american family man when he’s the furthest thing from it, his family, I’m sorry to say it, seem to be these days, nothing but props.

    There’s about as much passion between him and Michelle as there is between Burt and Ernie on Sesame St. I’m pretty sure most of his adult life is pretty much manufactured.

  110. jtjames
    June 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    here’s Giuliani on morning joe, it’s almost 20 minutes long but he hammers O

    ———

    I could only listen to the first half of the program because of the stupidity of the two hosts…how could these people have a job, how could they actually have any argument against what Giuliani said?

    Giuliani was spot on with his assessment and I may not agree with his political views but I have a lot of respect for how he handled the 9-11 crisis.

  111. It’s the shell game again…

    On HuffPuff

    Why did the Obama administration just approve more than 400 new leases for oil companies to operate in the Gulf of Mexico?

    [snip]

    But while existing rigs may be out of commission for the near future, the administration hasn’t exactly put the brakes on new oil and gas drilling ventures. In recent weeks, the government has quietly approved the sale of more than 400 new leases for vast swaths of the Gulf of Mexico. And these contracts—which mark the first step in the drilling process—were subjected to the same slapdash environmental oversight that failed to prevent the BP catastrophe.

    The region was included in a plan created by the Bush administration’s Department of the Interior to lease new areas of the Gulf to the oil and gas industries.

    http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/06/new-drilling-leases-gulf-of-mexico

  112. It should be remembered that no one gets a bigger F in crisis management than Giuliani. He screwed up just about every aspect of job that related to terrorism in New York. A guy who fucked up as badly as Giuliani did criticizing Obama isn’t worth the time it takes to watch it. Remember, he’s the one who moved the office for emergency response (small letters because I’ve forgotten the name of the office) to the WTC against expert advice so that he could be nearer his girlfriend. Yup. That’s the kind of asshole that shouldn’t be on tv criticizing someone else.

    It’s partisan sniping and has no value.

    Quit watching tv, folks, there is nothing of value to be heard there.

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