Update VIII: The Senate bill passed the House (219-212); the Republican Motion to Recommit failed (182-219); the Reconciliation bill passed (220-211). The Reconciliation bill now goes to the Senate.
The few “appealing” aspects of the bill (such as portability of insurance from job to job) that kick in rapidly will help Dimocrats marginally. But from now on every Medicare patient that is unhappy or has to wait for an appointment will, rightly or wrongly, blame Obama and the Dimocrats and will vote in November to punish for the massive Medicare cuts.
All the magic promises will be magnified by unions and Dimocratic allied organizations with publicity stunts featuring “enrollment” drives and assorted distractions. But the magic will never materialize and the “bitter and clingy” mood of Americans will grow even more bitter and sour. Economic misery will have every American answering the question “Are you better off today than you were two years ago?” at the ballot box in November. The Arrogance! Incompetence! Corruption! Cowardice! of Obama and his Corrupt Dimocrats will be punished in November.
By April 15, 2011 the new taxes will have to be paid, just in time for the preliminaries to the 2012 election campaign.
Politico provides a handy guide to the Dims that will “walk plank with ‘yes’ vote.”
“Some members of Congress will end up with primary challenges as a result. Others may have signed their own political death warrant. [snip]
Members in this category include Reps. Harry Mitchell of Arizona, Chris Carney of Pennsylvania and Baron Hill of Indiana, each of whom was elected in the 2006 Democratic wave and represents a seat that George W. Bush carried twice.
And virtually every freshman Democrat who won a marginal district in 2008 will need to mount a vigorous explanation of the benefits of a “yes” vote — especially members like Reps. Mark Schauer of Michigan and Dina Titus of Nevada, who won Republican-held seats.
Some veterans — among them nine-term Rep. Earl Pomeroy, who hails from solidly Republican North Dakota, and West Virginia Reps. Alan Mollohan and Nick Rahall — will also feel the heat.”
Suzanne Kosmas, Betsy Markey, Mary Jo Kilroy, Steve Driehaus, Carol Shea-Porter, Thomas Perriello, John Boccieri, signed their death warrants too.
Those running for higher office (Brad Ellsworth, Paul Hodes, Kendrick Meek) have also signed their death warrants. Bart Stupak and his ilk will face bipartisan loathing and defeat.
Update VII: The vote on the Senate passed bill will soon start. After that vote, there will be a last ditch Republican attempt to kill the bill by proposing a “motion to recommit”. The motion to recommit will “contain only language on abortion that Stupak originally had wanted to include in the Senate bill.” In November:
Sixty-eight Democrats voted for Stupak’s language in a November vote. They could be portrayed as flipping if they now voted against it.
If the Republicans don’t muck things up, as they did in November, this will be yet another time bomb to explode in November against the Dimocrats. Obama Dimocrats are celebrating today and one is walking around with a clown size gavel. As Pat Caddell describes it, ‘it’s a Kool-aid party’. A Hopium spiked Kool-aid party fit for a cult:
Update VI: A little history might be in order. Some are saying that “the public is fickle and does not stay focused that long” and therefore Obama’s Dimocrats will be able to get away with by hook or by crook legislation. This is a variation of the “the public does not care about process” argument. We believe both are wrong.
We wrote about “process” and the “fickle public” previously and concluded that ordinarily Americans do not care about the “process” for legislation, but that health care legislation is an exemption to that rule. We believe the “process” answer applies to the “fickle” argument too. It’s not just opinion versus opinion – there’s history.
In 1989 the Democratic controlled Congress was warned by seniors against passing an alleged “expanded Medicare coverage” bill. Democrats were convinced “the people” would love the bill once it was passed and they passed the bill. Seniors revolted. Within months the same Democratic Congress was forced to repeal the law. Here’s a visual:
Seniors in 2010 are expected to account for 54% – 56% of the vote. We suspect that today’s seniors will revolt against the Medicare cuts in Obama’s health scam just like the seniors in 1989 did.
Tonight the Dimocrats will proceed with the Obama health scam. Republicans will continue the opposition unto November 2010 and 2012. Republicans will even pose as the defenders of Social Security and Medicare and the elderly. Amazing.
Update V: Stupak sells out his principles. Obama will sign an Executive Order. PINOs in congress will keep their mouths shut – so much for “core Democratic values”. Stupak parrots the “American people are the winners” line but Americans don’t feel like “winners” with this massive transfer of taxpayer dollars to Big Insurance and Big PhaRma.
A little note on the atmospherics of the Stupak press conference: Marcy Kaptur’s face and delivery did not match her upbeat words. Bart Stupak looked sullen too. The Republicans must be giddy as they contemplate November. The Dimocrats and allied organizations will hold countless publicity stunts to “sign up” for health care and other such charades, but the independents who vote in November will not be smiling.
The Obama Executive Order may be read HERE. Read it and keep those Pink Grenades handy.
The fight will continue this week in the Senate if and when this Obamination scam passes the House. The lawsuits will commence too.
Update IV: They Still Don’t Have The Votes but that might change momentarily because Stupak is about to speak and the rumor is he will “Save Obama” and Obama will sign some sort of Executive Order – will any of the so-call progressives react with principle? We doubt it.
Earl Pomerory is a “Save Obama” vote.
There are not many votes left to mine as the stomach turns. This vote could drag on all night as Pelousy flits about with a comically huge gavel. “One big tell-tale sign” of what is happening is the changed schedule.
Update III: Want to call Bart Stupak (a live person is answering the phones at his office? (202) 225 4735, (989) 356 0690, (906) 875 3751.
Keep fighting. They still don’t have the votes.
Update II: They still don’t have the votes. It’s close.
Bill Foster votes to “Save Obama”.
The much courted John Tanner votes “NO!”.
Rumor at DireFog has Lincoln Davis also a “NO!”. DireFog has the vote at 208 “Save Obama” and 209 “NO!” Get the pen Barack! Forget what you told Planned Parenthood during the primaries. Time to wield that back stabbing pen.
It is amazing that with the entire Obama presidency at stake so many are voting “NO!”. It’s the growing NObama Coalition.
Update I: The latest on the rumors of a Bart Stupak deal HERE. Nothing is confirmed. Stupak has yet to announce an agreement.
More rumors – Stupak is not quite a “Save Obama” vote yet.
Not a rumor – Brian Baird is a “Save Obama” vote.
More rumors – is this the Executive Order? A “non-binding show” which is a stab in the back? Rumors.
Latest non rumor, Major Garrett states on Fox News that he received an email from Stupak’s spokesperson that there is no deal.
Keep fighting. They still don’t have the votes.
They Still Don’t Have The Votes. With massive Dimocratic majorities in both chambers, and control of the executive branch of government – the most they can HOPE for is a bare majority. The most they can hope for is a bare majority and a Dimocratic president signing a ban on abortion funding. What audacity!
American Big Media is all out to help flim-flam Obama pass his health scam. As usual we turn to the overseas media to provide a sense of some reality. The TimesOnline headline says it: “Late swings leave Barack Obama’s healthcare reforms teetering“
What appears to propel a great deal of the “they have the votes” conjecture is that no president or no thinking person would stake so much (a presidency, a congress, an entire infrastructure of allied organizations, unions, a political party, Big Media allies) unless it was a sure thing. Hillary supporters know better because we have watched Obama’s flim-flams accepted wholesale even when not based in reality.
We’ll be keeping track of the health scam vote all day and updating this article as appropriate. They still don’t have the votes.
Will they get the votes? Will they work out a deal with Bart Stupak (latest rumors say they have)? Pelousy and Obama will try to scheme as much as necessary, bamboozle as much as possible to get the votes – By Hook Or By Crook. The hook will probably not work, so the crook will have to up his game.
If they do manage to get the votes (They Still Don’t Have The Votes) what can we expect? Well there will be a fight in the Senate all week long, but that conjecture is for another day. The Republicans know what they will do:
“The top House Republican said if his party takes the majority, he would work to repeal the health care bill.
“If this bill passes, we will have an effort to repeal the bill, and we’ll do it the same way that we approached health care on a step by step basis. I’d have a bill on the floor the first thing out, to eliminate the Medicare cuts, eliminate the tax increases, eliminate the mandate that every American has to buy health insurance and the employer mandate that’s going to cover jobs,” Boehner said according to an advanced transcript of NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
The Senate side Republicans are saying much the same thing:
“National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn of Texas said Sunday this fall’s midterm elections will be a “referendum” on the health care bill, saying it will be the “defining issue” even when President Barack Obama runs for reelection in 2012.
“For example, in places like Indiana, where only 37 percent of the public approve of it, you have congressmen who want to be the next senator from Indiana saying they’re going to vote for this bill,” Cornyn said on “Fox News Sunday.” “That will be the defining issue in that state – states like New Hampshire, known for their fiscal responsibility where Paul Hodes, a congressman there, said he’s going to vote for this two-and-a-half trillion dollar bill that’s a job killer that’s going to run up deficits, cut Medicare and raise taxes.”
The whiff of New Hampshire is everywhere these flim-flam days.
Cornyn has other fires to burn in the Senate:
“Texas Sen. John Cornyn said Sunday fellow Republicans will take issue with a tax on high-priced insurance plans, arguing that it violates the rules of budget reconciliation.
Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” Cornyn said that a point of order in the Senate could strip that key provision or even scuttle the bill
“The so-called excise tax on Cadillac insurance plans that doesn’t go into effect until 2018, eight years from now, that effects Social Security. It violates the Byrd rule, and we’re going to raise a point of order. There are 41 senators that signed a letter saying that we will not vote to wave the point of order, it will fall, either that provision or potentially even bring down the whole bill,” Cornyn said.
Cornyn said Republicans have hundreds of amendments to the bill, meant to “highlight” what they consider to be its bad provisions.”
If phase 1, passage in the House of Representative does happen, the fight will continue. It will continue all the way until November 2010 and 2012.
By Hook Or By Crook will not be enough. The Crook will get the Hook soon enough.