The Edsel – Obama, The Health Scam, And The Health Summit Publicity Stunt

Unlike Obama, his health scam is not for sale – at any price. Americans do not want this clunker. This clunker is like an Edsel. Americans do not want to pay cash for this clunker.

Hillary Clinton supporters know real health care died in Denver in August 2008. Hillary Clinton supporters also know that, unlike his health scam, Obama is for sale to the highest bidder (read The Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss).

Obama supporters desperate for a rationale to continue the Hopium guzzling note that some items in the Obama health scam are popular and therefore the Obama health scam should be made the law of the land. Today we will instruct these Hopium guzzlers on the Edsel.

The Edsel was a car Ford Motor Company did a great deal of polling on, asking consumers “What would you like in a car?” before designing it. The Edsel was a dream car full of items consumers wanted, but “the word “Edsel” has become synonymous with failure.” Wikipedia has some of the Edsel history:

“The Edsel was introduced amidst considerable publicity on “E Day”—September 4, 1957. It was promoted by a top-rated television special, The Edsel Show, on October 13, but it was not enough to counter the adverse public reaction to the car’s styling and conventional build. For months, Ford had been circulating rumours that led people to expect an entirely new kind of car, when in reality, the Edsel shared its bodywork with other Ford models.”

Obama himself is an Edsel – he is not who he said in his books, he is. The Obama health scam is an Edsel too:

There is no single reason why the Edsel failed, and failed so spectacularly. Popular culture often faults the car’s styling. Consumer Reports cited poor workmanship. Marketing experts hold the Edsel up as a supreme example of corporate America’s failure to understand American people. Business analysts cite the weak internal support for the product inside Ford’s executive offices. According to author and Edsel scholar Jan Deutsch, the Edsel was “the wrong car at the wrong time.

Do we need to draw clearer similarities between the Edsel and Obama’s health scam? A spectacular failure, bad styling, poor workmanship, “failure to understand American people, weak internal support, the wrong car health plan at the wrong time. More similarities:

The prerelease advertising campaign touted the car as having “more YOU ideas“, and the teaser advertisements in magazines only revealed glimpses of the car through a highly blurred lens or wrapped in paper or under tarps. Edsels were shipped to the dealerships undercover and remained wrapped on the dealer lots.

But the public also had a hard time understanding what the Edsel was, mostly because Ford made the mistake of pricing the Edsel within Mercury’s market price segment. [snip]

Not only was the Edsel competing against its own sister divisions, but model for model, people did not understand what the car was supposed to be—a step up or a step below the Mercury.

After its introduction to the public, the Edsel did not live up to its overblown hype, even though it did have many new features, such as self-adjusting rear brakes and automatic lubrication. While consumer focus groups had said these and other features would make the “E” car attractive to them as car buyers, the cost of the cars outstripped what the public was willing to pay. When many potential buyers saw the base price tag, they simply left the dealership, and others were frightened by the price for a fully loaded top-of-the-line model.

We’ve made many comparisons of Obama as “New Coke”. As Dimocrats face disaster in November 2010 many begin to see we were right about the “New Coke” analogy. Edsel Obama and the Edsel which is the Obama health scam have not lived “up to its overblown hype.” The Edsel Obama Edsel plan also “outstripped what the public was willing to pay.” And there is this:

One of the external forces working against the Edsel was the onset of the recession in late 1957.

Reconciliation is Obama’s “An Edsel in every garage” demand. American consumers and voters do not want Edsel Obama or his Edsel scam.

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Before today’s publicity stunt the narrative was, “It’s a trap!” Turns out it is a Republican trap on a desperate, bumbling, Obama. The Republicans brought their “A” team to the summit publicity stunt and Obama brought his boobery. On premiums Obama proved a boob with his claim that premiums under his scam would not go up (we wrote about this last year in Who Do You Trust?). The Congressional Budget Office cannot even analyze the Obama Edsel plan. The old “cost control” argument was also jettisoned by credit card Obama in his eleven page “plan”. Harry Reid lied about “No one’s talking about reconciliation”.

The Barack Obama publicity stunt today is meant to somehow counter the correct view of most Americans that Obama lied to us when he promised transparency and that negotiations on health care reform would “be on C-SPAN”. Barack Obama worked out his deals with the pharmaceutical lobbyists in private in January/February 2009 and now he wants to play dress up before the cameras, but it is too late.

Republicans were ready and Obama fell into the trap. Yesterday, before the publicity stunt, this video was released by Republican allies:



Republicans pretended to be afraid of Obama’s vaunted, but not deserved, masterful Mess-iah style abilities. But it was a trap. Why are Republicans wisely participating in these Obama scams? Because every day that Obama annoys the American public with this more than dead health scam is another day there is no focus (another recently broken Obama promise) on jobs and the economy. “Let’s keep on talking about something that is not going to happen and waste more time, Barack” say the Republicans. Dimocrats, ever willing to be bamboozled, continue to play Obama’s game. Dimocrats will pay in November.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Obama has a “Plan B”. That “Plan B” will fail too. The used car salesman tried to sell an Edsel and now he wants to try to sell another clunker – the consumer will walk out of the dealership.

The Obama health scam is dead. The Edsel ran out of gas.

Barack Obama will continue his publicity stunts to distract Americans from the fact that he has done nothing and will continue to do nothing – other than big Wednesday night lavish spending on parties, sleeve removers for Michelle, and vacations.

Barack Obama will continue to spend on lavish, overly produced publicity stunts which feature himself spewing a cascade of words and more words. Today is but the beginning of the even bigger, faster publicity stunt presidency.

Six hours of Obama. How much more must the nation be punished?

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92 thoughts on “The Edsel – Obama, The Health Scam, And The Health Summit Publicity Stunt

  1. McCain reminds Obama of promises made; Obama responds those promises were made during the election (so forget the election promises):

  2. Lamar! thinks it’s an Edsel too:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7041663.ece

    For the rest of us, however, it was mainly an opportunity to see how many conciliatory-looking poses Obama could strike while listening to his Republican opponents explain why the entire first year of his administration has been a gigantic waste of time, and why the telephone directory-sized health Bills produced by both the Democrat-controlled House and Senate should be fed into a shredder the size of Connecticut, before they . . . well, no one seems to know exactly what these vast pieces of legislation would do. [snip]

    The President’s first challenger of the morning was the Republican charmer Lamar Alexander, a whiskey-voiced Senator from Tennessee. “We want you to succeed, because if you succeed, our country succeeds,” he told Obama, before adding, a few moments later, that want he really wanted, more than anything, was for the President to fail.

    Or, as he put it: “This [healthcare reform] is a car that can’t be recalled and fixed . . . we ought to start over.”

    Throughout all this, Obama, looking incongruously glamorous in a crisp white shirt and blue tie — like Jamie Foxx chairing a convention of Pittsburgh cement contractors — gave an Oscar-worthy performance as the Concerned Listener.

    He listened with his chin raised and his eyes narrowed. His listened with his head resting quizzically in one hand. He listened while scribbling furiously in his notebook. Indeed, it was only when one of his own allies began to speak — the purple-suited Nancy Pelosi, famed for her left-wing politics and fondness for private jets — that Obama’s camera-talent abandoned him, and he allowed himself to be filmed with his middle finger creeping over his lips, as if urging Ms Pelosi to shut the hell up and take the next Gulfstream back to California.

    His frustration was understandable. After all, for a while, it seemed as though Senator Alexander might be getting the upper hand, and the viewer began to wonder if Obama’s gambit — to bore America into submission while getting another opportunity to look handsome on television — was about to blow up in his face.

  3. Obama responds those promises were made during the election (so forget the election promises):

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    What a sleeze.

  4. KEY QUOTES from the White House healthcare summit

    WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) – Here are some of the remarks made by President Barack Obama and U.S. congressional leaders at the White House healthcare summit on Thursday.

    PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

    “What I’m hoping to accomplish today is for everybody to focus not just on where we differ, but focus on where we agree.”

    “And then let’s talk about some areas where we disagree and see if we can bridge those gaps. I don’t know that those gaps can be bridged.”

    REPUBLICAN SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN

    “Both of us … promised ‘change in Washington.’… Eight times you (Obama) said negotiations on healthcare reform would be conducted before C-Span cameras. I’m glad, more than a year later, that they are here.”

    “Unfortunately, this product was not produced in that fashion. It was produced behind doors.”

    SENATE DEMOCRATIC LEADER HARRY REID

    “Harvard just completed a study that shows 45,000 Americans die every year because they don’t have health insurance, almost 1,000 a week in America.”

    REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE CHARLES BOUSTANY

    “We all agree on prohibiting insurance companies from arbitrarily canceling insurance policies. That’s a no-brainer. There’s strong agreement on both sides of the aisle.”

    DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE LOUISE SLAUGHTER

    “I even have one constituent — you will not believe this, and I know you won’t, but it’s true — her sister died. This poor woman had no denture. She wore her dead sister’s teeth, which of course were uncomfortable and did not fit.”

    REPUBLICAN SENATOR LAMAR ALEXANDER

    “With respect, you (Obama) are wrong about your bill. It would increase premiums, I believe.”

    Alexander also urged Democrats not to resort to a rarely used procedure that would allow them to avoid a Senate Republican procedural roadblock.

    “You can say that this process has been used before, and that would be right. But it’s never been used for anything like this.” Alexander quoted Democratic Senator Robert Byrd’s description of the process as ramming the bill through like “‘a freight train.'”

    DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHARLES SCHUMER

    “You can’t just get up there and say we don’t want to cut anything out of Medicare. We want to cut the bad stuff and keep the good stuff. And I think that’s where we can find common ground.”

    SENATE REPUBLICAN WHIP JON KYL

    “There are some fundamental differences between us here that we cannot paper over. We do not agree about the fundamental question about who should be mostly in charge.”

    “There’s so much in the bills that you’ve supported that puts control in Washington that we have a very difficult time supporting those provisions.”

    REPUBLICAN SENATOR TOM COBURN

    “The government now directs over 60 percent of the healthcare in this country. And if throwing money at it and creating new government programs could solve it, we wouldn’t be sitting here today because we’ve done all that. It hasn’t worked.”

    DEMOCRATIC SENATOR MAX BAUCUS

    “We basically know what the problems are, all of us. We basically know that the current system is unsustainable.”

    “We are actually quite close — there’s not a lot of difference…”

    “We are on the verge and the cusp, with not too much effort, to try to bridge a lot of gaps here, because the gaps, in my judgment, are not that great.”

    HOUSE REPUBLICAN WHIP ERIC CANTOR

    “We can’t afford this. That is the ultimate problem here.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2525463720100225

  5. In closing remarks Obama just rambled about insurance sold across state lines. The boob in the process appears to have attacked Biden or at least Delaware. Obama noted that “some states” went to the bottom in terms of regulation and credit card companies relocated there. Obama might not know that state he is talking about is Delaware.

  6. JbStonesFan, then Dingle wants to waste several more months on angering Americans even more and ignoring jobs and the economy.

    The Dimocrats are in a lose/lose on this. Either they admit they have wasted well over a year and prove they are not ready to govern; or they continue to focus on proving they can pass this and consume more months without addressing the economy. The timing is not going to help either. The reconciliation timetable would have the vote take place around April 15, not a time the American people are in the best of mood.

  7. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33512.html

    Thursday’s health care summit wound down with President Barack Obama making clear he couldn’t sign on to the Republican plan for reform, wouldn’t abandon reconciliation and had no intention of scrapping his own plan – capping the six-plus-hour session with a dig at Republicans for pitching a bill that covers just a fraction of the uninsured.

    “Those steps don’t get you to the place people need to go,” Obama said of the Republican plan.

    Republicans said the same thing in their closing comments that they said at 10 a.m. – start over. Obama won’t.

    So the parties walked out of Blair House almost exactly the way they walked in – completely at odds over the best way to fix the health insurance system.

  8. Yep… it was the ultimate ” DOG AND PONY” show today put on by both sides of the isle

    on this they were “Bipartisan” for sure.

    I say throw em all out and start over.

  9. admin
    February 25th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    Krauthammer had it right:
    ***********

    I have to disagree with Kauth on this one. The fraud has never shown concern for anyone other than himself. He just doesn’t want to lose nor compromise, period. And the reason he let congress do all the dirty work is because that is his history. He is incapable of hard work. Most narcissistic are.

  10. I warn you there is one line that makes no sense and is derogatory towards BC… the rest is on the mark
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    February 25, 2010
    Danny Williams’ Surgical Sojourn
    By Jeannie DeAngelis
    Danny Williams, esteemed premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, left the Canadian health care system far behind to receive minimally invasive mitral valve heart surgery in the United States. The people of America should send Mr. Williams a combination get well/thank you card for inadvertently divulging how politicians, regardless of country of origin, view themselves in relation to those they govern.

    Newfoundland and Labrador may be considered the “Far East of the Western World, renowned for friendly people, marine wildlife and stunning seacoasts.” Of late, thanks to Danny Williams, the scenic region has also become notorious for long medical wait times and archaic cardiac surgery.

    That may be why Newfoundland and Labrador’s premier chose to forgo Canada’s government Medical Care Plan, pay out of pocket, and head south of the border to place his life in an American heart surgeon’s care. Premier Williams was well “aware his trip to the United States for heart surgery earlier this month would spark outcry, but concluded personal health trumped any public fallout over the controversial decision.” In defense of Williams, Newfoundland and Labrador’s deputy premier Katy Dunderdale said, “He’s doing what’s best for him.”

    Canadian critics expressed their sentiments toward Williams’ decision. One person, in a post to the Globe and Mail website, railed, “Gee, it must be nice to be able to afford to bypass Canada’s crappy health-care system and its dangerously long waiting lists for surgery. Some people are more special than others I guess?” Williams claimed that the surgery he needed was unavailable in Canada and defended his choice to obtain what prisoners of public health care systems never have access to.

    In an attempt to quell controversy, Williams tried to put Newfoundlanders at ease with reassuring words, saying, “We do whatever we can to provide the best possible health care that we can in Newfoundland and Labrador. The Canadian health care system has a great reputation.” This is true…unless, of course, one is independently wealthy like Danny Williams and in need of “a very specialized piece of surgery.” In that case, going to Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami to see cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Joseph Lamelas is a much better option. In fact, entrepreneurial companies in Newfoundland sponsor medical tours to the United States for procedures like mitral valve surgery.

    Consummate politicians touting socialized medicine are an interesting phenomenon because typically, when it comes to personal well-being, they always choose the finest private care. Champion of the public option Ted Kennedy did, as does the always-vigorously virile Bill Clinton. When in need of emergency care, neither politician subjected his major organs to anything but the optimum attention only American doctors can provide.

    In an interview with the Canadian Press, Williams said, “This was my heart, my choice and my health. I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics.” Yet politicians pushing socialized health care are the ones responsible for depriving the people they govern of obtaining what they demand for themselves.

    In the next few years, if Barack Obama manages to implement his sweeping vision for government run health care, Williams’ words about politicians “not signing away rights” may very well become a mantra in defense of elitists receiving care far superior to the general population’s. Why? Because legislative changes do not affect the powerful. Regardless of Obama’s proposed measures, Washington’s privileged will retain a better-quality benefit package at taxpayers’ expense, while those financing the plan will be herded toward substandard care.

    Mr. Williams argued that he “wanted to get in, get out fast, and get back to work in a short period of time,” maintaining unselfish motives as a public servant drew him to the United States for surgery. If given the opportunity, recipients of Washington Cadillac plans will likely employ Williams’ explanation to justify health care inequity by using the “banks are too big to fail” excuse. Like banks, American congressmen in need of heart surgery and senators with a diagnosis of glioblastoma are just too big to be denied the finest medical care America has to offer.

    Williams’ eloquently articulated concern about maintaining “fairness” provides Washington Democrats further cues, if need be, to defend exclusive dispensation. Danny Williams stated that one reason he came to America for minimally invasive heart surgery was not merely to circumvent the Canadian option of having his sternum cracked open to access his heart, but to avoid being unfairly perceived as “jumping a line or a wait list.” Newfoundland and Labrador’s premier, while recuperating comfortably in his Sarasota, Florida condominium, can rest in the knowledge that equality prevailed when he received the specialized care denied the people he governs.

    After having successful surgery and in true elected official manner, the recovering mitral valve heart patient reiterated that the decision to travel to Miami for enhanced health care “did not reflect any lack of faith in his own province’s health care system.” Premier Danny Williams said, “I have the utmost confidence in our own health care system in Newfoundland and Labrador, but we are just over half a million people.”

    Williams citing the sparsely populated province’s five hundred thousand inhabitants as a barrier to his ability to obtain adequate health care is a concern that a nation of three hundred million people should

    seriously consider whenever President Obama insists that health care reform changes nothing.

    If the president gets his way, Americans needing surgery may have to follow Premier Danny Williams’ lead. For the first time ever, those fearing death at the hands of Obama health care reform may be forced to cross the border into Mexico.

  11. Phil Klein:

    Having watched every minute of the health care summit, I have to disagree with my co-bloggers. I think that Republicans have been, generally speaking, handling this very well. I’ve been very critical of the GOP throughout the health care debate, but Republicans have consistently made fact-based arguments on why President Obama’s plan will make our health care system’s problems worse, presented other ideas, and made the case for scrapping the current highly unpopular bill and taking a different approach. Paul Ryan just completely eviscerated the Democratic claims that the Senate health care bill would contain costs and reduce deficits, outlining the accounting gimmicks that Democrats used, as well as the actuarial study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found the Senate bill would actually increase health care spending. Chuck Grassley, while not the whiz kid that Ryan is, followed up by noting a CBO report that found Democrats cannot double-count the savings from the Medicare cuts to claim it will both reduce deficits and extend the solvency of the program both at the same time.

  12. gonzotx

    It all comes down to the cost and how they fudge the figures. Having seen the government accounting system first hand, I have never trusted a number given, as the system is so complex. That is why they think they can tell you lies like that. Fortunately, at least Church Grassley has learned some lessons about the system, and know when the 2 plus 2 does not equal 8.

  13. So will charlie rangel step down now??? Or being black he thinks he is above the rule?

    He broke the rules – accoding to the ethics committee!

  14. The conventional wisdom (even Gergen knows the Republicans did well – in-between the necessary Obama praise on CNN):

    When CNN says “it’s a tie”, you know Obama got snookered. There was no “game change” meaning Obama lost.

  15. I thought many times that Obama either looked totally bored or very iritated. He must have forgotten to take his meds today!

  16. confloyd
    February 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
    I thought many times that Obama either looked totally bored or very iritated. He must have forgotten to take his meds today!
    —————–

    you mean he forget to take a little sniff or something?

  17. JanH, He winged it, therefore it was ahhh, eeeee, ahhhhh, eeeee.

    mp, he was visibly wanting to take a break at 11 am for lunch. Must of been time for a little snort. LOL!
    He look so condesending all afternoon. Schummer looked real sleepy this afternoon, he should have had a little snort to wake up. LOL!!

    Patterson is under fire again, WTF??? Again????

  18. I saw a clip of Hannah Giles, I think Breitbart might be sending her to Haiti. What the heck for I don’t know. They need to leave Bill alone.

  19. admin
    February 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    you are right, even with only 50% of the debate time…as you know, the Fraud is the “President”

  20. I thought an interesting moment was when The One went on and on lecturing about the Blue Cross increases in California and explaining that this resulted from so many unemployed people cancelling their insurance, leaving the pool dominated by high-risk, bad health customers.

    It seemed to me that the obvious answer to that would be for Washington to quit screwing around with health care and do something about jobs and the economy. Stupid!

  21. The Main Event: Ryan v. Obama

    Rep. Paul Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin, just launched a full-bore assault on the faulty assumptions behind the claim that the Obama health care plan will reduce the deficit. Obama didn’t even bother questioning Ryan’s presentation. He changed the subject to Medicare Advantage. The expression on the president’s face as Ryan made his case was absolutely priceless. Simply put, he looked like someone who realizes he’s met his match.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/main-event-ryan-v-obama

  22. Republicans Brought Their A-Game to Summit… Say the Media?

    CNN’s DAVID GERGEN: “The folks in the White House just must be kicking themselves right now. They thought that coming out of Baltimore when the President went in and was mesmerizing and commanding in front of the House Republicans that he could do that again here today. That would revive health care and would change the public opinion about their health care bill and they can go on to victory. Just the opposite has happened.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

    • GERGEN: “He doesn’t have a strong Democratic team behind him.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

    THE HILL’S A.B. STODDARD: “I think we need to start out by acknowledging Republicans brought their ‘A Team.’ They had doctors knowledgeable about the system, they brought substance to the table, and they, I thought, expressed interest in the reform. I thought in the lecture from Senator John McCain and on the issue of transparency, I thought today the Democrats were pretty much on their knees.” (Fox News’ “Live,” 2/25/10)

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/media-republicans-brought-their-

  23. Sounds like a good idea!
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    February 25, 2010
    Why not a medical bankruptcy provision in health care reform?
    Grant Ellis

    One problem yet to be addressed by any healthcare proposal is that of family financial ruin over illness. Given Obama’s notion that “No one in America should go broke because they get sick,” you’d think this would be a prime component of his plan. Instead, it’s a problem ignored.
    I suggest a Medical Bankruptcy provision be included in any plan that makes it to the President’s desk. In spite of my severe distaste for more federal meddling in health care, this may be a justifiable intrusion given that it would parallel existing federal bankruptcy law.

    The idea here would be to secure a channel through which families would receive unique support via new federal bankruptcy law. In the absence of deep research, I’m going to speculate that a small one-size-fits-all rider attached to every medical insurance policy written in America could be used to fund the entire program, a program that would include low-cost loans and, in severe cases, debt “forgiveness” absent the stigma or credit damage that results from ordinary bankruptcy.

    Administered by a Court Master, qualifying persons would prevail upon the court for an injunction that would essentially call a “time out” between debtor, creditor and health insurance company. That “time out” would give the Master the working room needed to assess the financial landscape. Upon assessment, the Master would then broker a final binding deal with the express intent of keeping all vested parties whole or nearly so. Note that any “award” would be structured to the pre-illness financial condition of the debtor to ensure that any/all rendered assistance would be based solely on medical-based merit.

    Are there downsides to this proposal? Sure: prospects for fraud and abuse to name two. Still, if Medical Bankruptcy is the problem it’s purported to be, a direct “fix” seems appropriate, even in the absence of a larger health care bill. On the other hand, if Medical Bankruptcy isn’t the problem it’s purported to be, the “fix” should be entirely manageable. Either way, we’ll finally put an end to the debate regarding the number of bankruptcies that are directly attributable to medical costs.

  24. Admin:

    I wasn’t able to do my due diligence and sit through the entire health care broadcast. However, the link you posted from the Times Online (with a quote); I couldn’t help but smile reading this quote re: Obama’s demeanor towards Pelosi during the Summit.

    “Throughout all this, Obama, looking incongruously glamorous in a crisp white shirt and blue tie — like Jamie Foxx chairing a convention of Pittsburgh cement contractors — gave an Oscar-worthy performance as the ‘Concerned Listener’.”

    “He listened with his chin raised and his eyes narrowed. His listened with his head resting quizzically in one hand. He listened while scribbling furiously in his notebook. Indeed, it was only when one of his own allies began to speak — the purple-suited Nancy Pelosi, famed for her left-wing politics and fondness for private jets — that Obama’s camera-talent abandoned him, and he allowed himself to be filmed with his middle finger creeping over his lips, as if urging Ms Pelosi to shut the hell up and take the next Gulfstream back to California.”

    [sigh]perfect!

  25. Olberman’s ‘Special Comment’ about his father makes some good points.

    But as to ‘death panels’, we should distinguish:

    1. ‘End of life planning’ which Olberman and his father did with their doctor, which some people (including me) would like to see paid for by HC and made standard practice

    2. The national board that Obama wanted to create to set policy for what treatments should be given to which people (Obama’s example: his grandmother should not have got a knee replacement because she had not long to live anyway). This is Obama’s proposed FCCCER, see below cut.

    3. The benefit reviewers that each private insurance company assigns to each patient to decide what treatment the patient can have. Delaying treatment till the patient dies saves the company money. Also there’s a ‘lifetime cap’ on how much money the company will spend on each patient.

    Palin spoke of ‘death panels’ that a patient would ‘go before’ to see if they are approved to live. This describes #3 — the insured individual asks their insurance company for a treatment, and the insurer decides whether to give it.

    Palin was probably referring to #2, but if so, she understated her case. This national board would not let any patients ‘come before’ it to plead their individual case. It would just set rules for all patients, nationwide. This is Obama’s proposed FCCCER, see below cut.

    #1 does not fit Palin’s remark at all, though some of her supporters are opposed to such planning (‘living will’ etc). The patient himself gives the instruction during the advance conference (hopefully years in advance). That is the point in having these advance conferences paid for and encouraged. When the patient becomes unable to communicate well (as Olberman’s father did), then the doctor and family follow the instructions the patient gave earlier. The patient does not ‘come before’ the panel; the whole point is that by this time he cannot.

    FCCCER:
    President Obama’s Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was sold as simply government helping doctors choose the best treatments. But there are dozens of medical journal review articles that do just that. The real purpose of such councils is ultimately to establish official criteria for denying reimbursement to less favored (because presumably less effective) treatments — precisely the triage done by the NICE committee in Britain [….]

    charles krauthammer writing at
    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/27/AR2009082703262.html

  26. I really don’t like the idea that someone would have denied a close relative of a knee replacement in her late 80s. She had few illines during her lifetime, had payed into that system all her life, and I felt she deserved the relief given to her, even for a short period of time.

    In addition, I can see the medical community already making some of those decisions. I accompany a friend to radiation, and I see a variation of treatment, especially with the older patients. When they feel that the life span is 10 years or less, the treatment plan is less aggressive.

    In addition, we all know that the people who are wealth will still get the most agressive treatments possible, because they use their own money to pay for it.

  27. NMF: Yes, the fewer rules, the more common sense can prevail.

    I was tipped off to this video by a conservative site; hope it will be enjoyed here:
    Gergen On CNN: Dems Didn’t Get “Breakthrough” They Wanted; GOP “Had Their Best Day In Years”
    www youtube.com/watch?v=4y70VVj6tuU

  28. Clinton says U.S. deficit now a security issue

    WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday said “outrageous” advice from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan helped create record U.S. budget deficits that put national security at risk.

    Appearing before congressional panels to defend the State Department’s $52.8 billion budget request for 2011, Clinton said the massive U.S. foreign debt had sapped U.S. strength around the world.

    “It breaks my heart that 10 years ago we had a balanced budget, that we were on the way of paying down the debt of the United States of America,” Clinton said.

    “I served on the budget committee in the Senate, and I remember as vividly as if it were yesterday when we had a hearing in which Alan Greenspan came and justified increasing spending and cutting taxes, saying that we didn’t really need to pay down the debt — outrageous in my view,” she said.

    Though she did not give a date, that hearing must have taken place during the presidency of George W. Bush, who authored a massive tax cut while spending billions on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and sponsoring a major expansion of the Medicare health program for seniors.

    Clinton urged lawmakers to tackle the federal budget deficit, which reached a record $1.4 trillion for the fiscal year that ended last September.

    “We have to address this deficit and the debt of the United States as a matter of national security not only as a matter of economics,” Clinton said. “I do not like to be in a position where the United States is a debtor nation to the extent that we are.”

    Having to rely on foreign creditors hit “our ability to protect our security, to manage difficult problems and to show the leadership that we deserve,” she said.

    “The moment of reckoning cannot be put off forever,” she said. “I really honestly wish I could turn the clock back.”

    Though she did not mention it, China’s portfolio of some $755 billion in U.S. Treasury bonds has become a concern for some U.S. policymakers. They worry that Beijing’s creditor status could create leverage to influence U.S. policy.

    FALL OF THE ORACLE

    Clinton’s swipe at Greenspan symbolized the way the former central bank chief’s reputation has fallen since he left the job in 2006.

    First named to the office by President Ronald Reagan in 1987, Greenspan served throughout the presidency of Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton. He was regarded as economic oracle whose cryptic pronouncements were searched for inner meaning and regularly moved financial markets.

    Now, he has become a handy whipping boy blamed for helping inflate a housing bubble that eventually burst, setting off a grave financial crisis and plunging the economy into the worst recession in decades.

    Greenspan, known as a deficit hawk, late last year endorsed a proposed bipartisan commission to help make tough calls needed to bring U.S. debt under control.

    Clinton noted that the 2011 budget request for the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development represented a $4.9 billion increase over 2010, most of which would fund work in the “frontline states” of Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    “We are now assuming so many of the post-conflict responsibilities, and that is the bulk of our increase,” Clinton said.

    Republican Representative Ron Paul, who has helped lead congressional efforts to rein in the deficit, pressed Clinton on U.S. diplomatic spending including a plan for an expensive new U.S. embassy building in London

    Clinton said the costs of the proposed modernist glass cube would be offset by savings on rent for satellite offices that embassy personnel must now use. “I believe I can make the case that we’re not asking for new money,” she said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2511749320100225

  29. Charlie Rangel ruling puts Nancy Pelosi in a jam
    The House ethics committee’s decision to admonish New York Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel over improper corporate-sponsored trips to the Caribbean leaves both Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the ethics committee itself facing some difficult questions.

    When then-Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) was admonished by the ethics committee in October 2004, Pelosi and other Democratic leaders went on the offensive against him.

    “Mr. DeLay has proven himself to be ethically unfit to lead the party,” Pelosi said at a press conference the following day. “The burden falls upon his fellow House Republicans. Republicans must answer: Do they want an ethically unfit person to be their majority leader or do they want to remove the ethical cloud that hangs over the Capitol?”

    Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) — now the House majority leader — said DeLay “certainly ought to step aside as leader at this point in time because I think his credibility has been undermined by these findings.”

    Six years later, the shoe is on the other foot: Republicans have previously called for Rangel to lose his chairmanship over his ethical troubles, and some of them — including Indiana Rep. Mike Pence — renewed that call Thursday night.

    How will Pelosi and Hoyer respond?

    Neither had anything to say about Rangel’s future Thursday night, but the issue is certain to be a central topic for Democratic leadership in the days ahead.

    The ethics committee’s decision on Rangel’s trips resolves just a small part of the ethical controversy in which he’s caught up. The ethics committee is still investigating a variety of issues related to Rangel’s personal finances, including his use of rent-stabilized apartment, his fundraising on behalf of a research institute bearing his name, and his failure to declare hundreds of thousands of dollars on income and assets on annual financial-disclosure reports.

    The ethics committee, meanwhile, appears to have issues of its own.

    In a statement Thursday night, ethics committee leaders Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) and Jo Bonner (R-Ala.), took Rangel and his staff to task — but also admonished the committee’s own former counsel.

    “The evidence shows that Representative Rangel’s staff knew that corporations had contributed funds to Carib News specifically for the 2007 and 2007 [trips],” Lofgren and Bonner said. “This information was not provided to the Standards Committee when [Rangel] sought and received approval to accept these trips.”

    Lofgren and Bonner said the ethics committee “did not find actual evidence, nor does it believe that it would discover additional evidence” to show that Rangel personally knew about the corporate funding, but they added that Rangel “was responsible for the knowledge and actions of his staff in the performance of their officials duties.”

    The committee faulted its former counsel, Dawn Kelly Mobley, for giving confidential information to Carib News officials about the probe.

    And the ethics committee made a criminal recommendation to the Justice Department against three Carib News employees – Karl Rodney, Faye Rodney, and Patricia Louis – for having “submitted false or misleading information” to the ethics committee before it approved the trips.

    At a Thursday evening news conference, Rangel lashed out at the ethics committee, and he was seen holding two closed-door meetings with Lofgren and Bonner off the House floor after the news broke that he would be the only one punished by the panel.

    “I don’t want to be critical of the committee, but the common sense dictates that members of Congress should not be held responsible for what could be the wrongdoing of, or mistakes occur, as a staff unless there’s reason to believe the member knew or should have known. And there’s nothing in the record to indicate the latter,” Rangel told reporter. “So I have to now deal with my lawyer as to what the hell do they mean that something’s imputed. Does it mean that no matter what a staff member does if the member doesn’t know it that the member could be charged and admonished publicly for it?”

    An ethics watchdog blasted the ethics committee for singling out Rangel for sanctions, saying all five members who went on the trips should have been admonished by the panel.

    “The Ethics Committee decision’s makes no sense. There is simply no reason for Rep. Rangel alone to be held accountable for taking this trip when a number of other members were also present,” said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “The notion that Rep. Rangel alone was aware the trip was sponsored by corporate donors defies logic. There were banners identifying specific corporate donors and Rep. Donald Payne (D-N.J.), publicly thanked corporate sponsors. The fact is, each and every member of Congress present was equally as culpable as Rep. Rangel and all should be held to the same standard.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33564.html

  30. Rangel reminds me of all the politicians I used to have such high regard for.

    One of my biggest disappointments was that I could be so wrong about so many dims. Naive as it may seem, I never expected them to be so susceptable to bribes and treachery against Hilary and Bill.

  31. obama’s buddies are at it again…

    Iran, Syria mock U.S. policy; Ahmadinejad speaks of Israel’s ‘annihilation’

    By Howard Schneider
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Friday, February 26,

    JERUSALEM — The presidents of Iran and Syria on Thursday ridiculed U.S. policy in the region and pledged to create a Middle East “without Zionists,” combining a slap at recent U.S. overtures and a threat to Israel with an endorsement of one of the region’s defining alliances.

    The Obama administration is trying to build an international coalition behind economic sanctions aimed at curbing Iran’s uranium-enrichment program, which the United States and others fear is aimed at developing nuclear weapons. The United States also recently announced that it will send an ambassador to Damascus after a five-year absence, part of an effort to weaken Syria’s relations with Iran and discourage the country’s support for militant groups antagonistic to Israel.

    But the message delivered by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in a joint news conference was sharp and spoke to a shared sense that Iran is gaining influence in the region despite U.S. efforts. Until the outcome of the broader struggle over Iran’s nuclear program becomes clear, analysts here say, it is unlikely Syria will change direction — or that progress can be made toward an Israel-Syria peace agreement.

    The United States wants “to dominate the region, but they feel Iran and Syria are preventing that,” Ahmadinejad said. “We tell them that instead of interfering in the region’s affairs, to pack their things and leave.”

    Ahmadinejad, a Holocaust denier, spoke of Israel’s eventual “demise and annihilation” and said the countries of the region could create a future “without Zionists and without colonialists.”

    Assad criticized what he regarded as the United States’ “new situation of colonialism” in the region, with troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan, and pressure on Syria to split from Iran, a friendship Assad emphasized was secure even given Syria’s faltering economy.

    The joint appearance and tone of the remarks come as an answer of sorts to the U.S. decision to send an ambassador, Robert Ford, to Damascus after pulling its representative in protest over the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri. Hariri’s killing was among a wave of assassinations in Lebanon attributed to Syria and its allies.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Wednesday that the return of an ambassador marked a “slight opening” toward Syria but that ultimately the United States expects Assad to curb his ties with Iran and his support for militant groups like the Lebanon-based Hezbollah and Hamas, based in the Gaza Strip.

    But Assad and Ahmadinejad on Thursday emphasized that their countries’ relationship had deepened with the signing of an agreement waiving visa restrictions for travel.

    The relationship between Iran and Syria has become one of the central alliances in the region, of particular interest now as a barometer of the success of U.S. policy toward Iran and of whether a larger Arab-Israeli peace deal is possible.

    Nowhere is concern over Iranian nuclear ambitions more pointed than in Israel, where officials argue that a nuclear-armed Iran will become even more influential over countries like Syria and will embolden radical groups to take a harder line with Israel.

    “If Iran is seen as being on the ascent, that strengthens all those people that oppose peace in the Middle East,” said Mark Regev, spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. “Those who are on the fence will come off the fence on the wrong side, and those who are in the peace camp will be playing defense.”

    Israel and Syria have held several rounds of peace talks and until late 2008 were talking indirectly through Turkish mediators.

    The outline of a deal, both sides say, is well known and in some ways simple: Israel’s full surrender of the Golan Heights territory it seized from Syria in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war and Syria’s end of the strategy of “resistance” and support for militant groups that has defined the rule of Assad and his father, the late Hafez al-Assad.

    Netanyahu and Assad have said they are willing to reopen peace talks but have disagreed over who, if anyone, should mediate. More recently, their countries traded barbs that included threats by the Israeli foreign minister to topple Assad and threats by the Syrian foreign minister to target Israeli cities in any war.

    Israeli officials say they still believe that a deal with Syria is possible but less so if President Obama fails with Iran. “The question is, where is Syria going to locate itself?” asked Tzachi Hanegbi, chairman of the Israeli parliament’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. The alliance with Iran, he said, “gives them less reason to be pragmatic.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022505089.html

  32. BREAKING NEWS:

    Embattled New York Gov. David Paterson will not seek full term in office,
    Democratic Party source tells CNN.

  33. Clinton joins Bush, Obama as wedge issue

    By Aaron Blake – 02/26/10

    It’s becoming a steady drumbeat in the Kentucky Senate race: Trey Grayson attacks, and Rand Paul responds by tying him to President Obama. Now, though, it appears Bill Clinton is fair game too.

    In what is shaping up to be one of the nastiest primaries in the country, Paul hit back with an ad for the second time this week.

    More interesting about the latest Paul ad is that it points out Grayson voted for “draft-dodger Bill Clinton.”

    Grayson, a former Democrat, quipped at a GOP function last year that, “Some people in college tried pot; I tried Clinton.”

    Rand Paul – Strong Defense

  34. JanH, both Rand and his Daddy are not people we should support. They are from the Pat Buchanan school of bringing out the worst fears in average Americans and I am sure you are well aware of their hostile foreign policy views on Israel.

  35. … Is Obama so ‘high’ on himself he actually thinks the Repubs will sit back and take his pronouncements without a fight? Repubs are the Party of policy and rules of engagement… And again, Obama will be responsible for letting the Repubs make fools out of the Dems!

    Health summit is a flop as President Obama vows to move forward on reform – with or without GOP

    WASHINGTON – President Obama vowed to press on with health care reform with or without Republicans after Thursday’s summit marathon showed a bipartisan deal looks hopeless.

    More than seven hours of talk before the TV cameras produced agreement only on the surface issues, and the President served notice he would not heed the GOP’s demand to start from scratch.

    “I’d like Republicans to do a little soul-searching and find out are there some things you’d be willing to embrace that get to this core problem of 30 million people without health insurance,” Obama told them.

    He even suggested it would take some courage for the other side to get on board.

    “I don’t know, frankly, if we can close that gap,” Obama said. “It’d be very hard for you, politically speaking, to do this.”

    The senators, House members and administration officials seated around a square table at Blair House spent much of the time rehashing now-familiar talking points, arguing over the accuracy of costs and poll numbers.

    Obama insisted that he heard some GOP ideas – such as on medical malpractice reform – that he might be able to embrace. But he was adamant he won’t return to the drawing board.

    “We cannot have another year-long debate about this,” Obama said.

    The President and Democrats have watched their political fortunes deteriorate dramatically as the debate has dragged on.

    And a Gallup poll out yesterday found slightly more Americans – 49% to 42% – would not want Democrats to push ahead on their own.

    But Obama strongly hinted Democrats could go it alone if Republicans can’t agree with them on large issues such as expanding coverage to enough people to achieve the savings and reforms they say everyone wants.

    “If we can’t, then I think we’ve got a go-ahead and make some decisions,” Obama said. “And then that’s what elections are for.”

    Republicans were pushing for a plan that would cover an additional 3 million people.

    The decision Obama may have to make is to use a Senate rule that allows Senate legislation affecting the budget to be passed with a simple majority, and not the 60 votes often required.

    Sen. John McCain argued that using that budget reconciliation measure was too drastic of a step.

    “I think it could harm the future of our country and our institution,” McCain said.

    But Obama and other Democrats brushed off the GOP warnings.

    “The big problem Americans would have [is] why does it take 60 votes to get a majority?” said Harlem Rep. Charlie Rangel. “People aren’t concerned with the debate – they’re concerned with what you’re going to produce.”

    Republicans, led by House Republican Leader John Boehner, called repeatedly for Democrats to start over.

    “The thing I have heard more than anything over the last six or seven months is that the American people want us to scrap this bill,” Boehner said.

    “Frankly, I was discouraged by the outcome,” said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell.

    Although few sparks flew in the wonky confab, White House aides admitted the event accomplished the goal of showing they were making a last-ditch effort at bipartisanship.

    “We’ve taken two things off the table – criticism that we didn’t conduct business in the open, and that we don’t listen to the other [GOP] side,” an aide said.

    “We’ll get it done,” said a newly optimistic Senate Democratic source. “Today unified the Dems.”

    But Democrats have been arguing among themselves for many months about the ingredients for a health care overhaul. And as Democrats dragged the dispute from 2009 into 2010, they lost their filibuster-proof Senate majority and the party’s overall standing has sunk further.

    Among liberal Democrats, momentum is picking up to push ahead with an even more robust bill than Obama is pushing. That would be passing a public insurance option that Obama has left out of his latest proposals.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_after_7hour_debate_health_deal_is_doa_li_bam_sez_no_starting_over_dems_will_go_i.html

  36. JanH-

    Rangel, Paterson, Jackson, Patrick, Emanuel, the whole lot need to be shown the door. Since the promised Clean-Up in DC has essentially become and annex for an expanded base of operations for the corrupt Chicago machine politics.

  37. jbstonesfan,

    I meant to say that I agree with you about Rand, but I don’t think Paul is any better.

    Both are users in different ways.

  38. “But Obama and other Democrats brushed off the GOP warnings.”

    ———————–
    When the GOP is in power this happens as well. However, I see what the dims are doing right now as even worse.

  39. Hi all

    Just want to let you know i am still here.

    It is tax season, don’t have time to post.

    I got a call from the Democratic Party thanking me for voting for O. I told her i did not vote for him and i am now an Independent.

    She got very quiet and hung up.

    They were probably looking for a donation.

  40. JanH,
    When the GOP is in power this happens as well. However, I see what the dims are doing right now as even worse.
    ———————————————————————-

    This is what I find most perplexing, we are fooled by the politicians all of the time, I wish there were way to figure these guys out before we put them……the media gives us problems when we try to put good folks in….well I guess they make so much more money when the politicians are bad.

    So Amadinejad is shooting his mouth off again?

    So does this mean Patterson is jumping ship now or what?

  41. FWRD:::

    Now the British are Revolting!!!!

    Dear Fellow Tea Party Patriots,

    No, I don’t mean that people from England are repulsive. I mean they are revolting against out-of-control government just like millions of Americans are. On Saturday, as Tea Party Patriots in America gather to celebrate the One Year Anniversary of the Nationwide Tea Party Movement, EU Parliament Member Daniel Hannan will host a British Tea Party.

    Since Tea Party Patriots is the organization that supports the local coordinators and grassroots members, TPP members have stepped up to the plate to help organize the British Tea Party as well. Today, at 4:00 pm eastern, Tea Party Patriots’ Hot Tea Radio Show will host Daniel Hannan to find out what is happening in the EU and why he is leading this effort in Britain.

    Listen Today at 4 PM

    You can listen live by going to http://www.hottearadio.com/. You can chat and call in by going to the Hot Tea Radio Blog Talk Radio page. Be sure to listen today at 4:00 pm eastern time.

    Hot Tea Radio

    Did you know Tea Party Patriots have been helping international local tea party groups since our inception? We have had tea parties in the UK on Thanksgiving in front of Parliament, the Netherlands on Tax Day last year. There is a European Tea Party Movement that has started and Tea Party Patriots is mentoring them to help get organized.

    If you are thinking of starting a local Tea Party Patriots group, you can sign up here and someone will be in touch with you shortly to help you get started.

    Oh and in case you have not seen it, the Dallas Tea Party has an incredible video inviting Keith Olberman to their One Year Anniversary Event this weekend.
    You are the heart and soul of the Tea Party Movement. Thank you for promoting the causes of fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free markets with us!

    Your Tea Party Patriots National Coordinator Team,
    Debbie Dooley, Mike Gaske, Ryan Hecker, Jenny Beth Martin, Mark Meckler, Sally Oljar, Diana Reimer, and Dawn Wildman

    Jenny Beth Martin (jennybethm@gmail.com, 770-878-1550)
    Dawn Wildman (dmwtpp11@yahoo.com)
    Mark Meckler (mark.grassroots@gmail.com)
    Debbie Dooley (debbie0040@yahoo.com)

  42. Hillary Clinton steps into Falklands row after ‘feeble’ Obama fails to back Britain in stand-off with Argentina

    By Ian Drury
    26th February 2010

    U.S. secretary of state Hillary Clinton is due to meet with Argentina’s president amid accusations of a snub to Britain over America’s refusal to support the UK in the Falklands oil drilling row.

    Mrs Clinton is to meet Cristina Ferndandez de Kirchner in Uruguay on March 1, Argentina’s ambassador to the U.S. has announced.

    Hopes are high in Argentina that Mrs Clinton will intervene on the country’s behalf in the row with Britain over the disputed territory.

    Respected Argentine newspaper La Nacion quoted State Department sources that claimed Mrs Clinton was ‘prepared to mediate’ in the row.

    America’s lack of support for Britain was last night blamed on the UK’s decision to release sensitive U.S. intelligence on a terror suspect.

    President Barack Obama was accused of being ‘feeble’ by failing to back London in the stand-off with Argentina over the disputed islands, despite the ‘special relationship’.

    Mrs Clinton and Mrs Kirchner are meeting in Uruguay as they attend the presidential inauguration there of José Mujica.

    Argentina already has the support of Latin America and the Caribbean in the row with Britain, and regional leaders are expected to press the case with Mrs Clinton.

    London and Buenos Aires are at odds over UK firm Desire Petroleum’s decision to drill for oil 60 miles north of the Falklands.

    Geologists estimate there are up to 60 billion barrels of oil in the seabed.

    The Argentine government has tabled a UN resolution condemning the plan. It has also secured backing from 32 South American nations supporting its claim that Britain has occupied the islands illegally since 1833.

    But despite Argentina’s sabrerattling, senior U.S. officials insist Washington’s position on the oil drilling is neutral. It is also ‘taking no position’ on the issue of sovereignty of the islands in the South Atlantic.

    A senior MP and a respected foreign policy think-tank claimed Washington’s stance was ‘payback’ for the British courts ordering the disclosure of secret CIA files on Binyam Mohamed.

    Two weeks ago, the U.S. said it was ‘deeply disappointed’ that Foreign Secretary David Miliband had been told by Court of Appeal judges to publish closely-guarded information about the former Guantanamo Bay prisoner.

    The papers detailed evidence showing MI5 knew that Mohamed, a British citizen, had been tortured by U.S. spies after he was detained in Pakistan in 2002.

    This week the White House has refused to endorse the UK’s historic sovereignty over the islands and its right to explore for oil in its waters.

    Last night, the Henry Jackson Society, a London-based foreign affairs think-tank, said Mr Obama’s stance was linked to anger at the release of the secret files.
    Executive director Alan Mendoza said: ‘The Obama administration’s decision to ignore the democratic rights of the Falkland islanders is disgraceful.
    ‘It can only be motivated by moral weakness in the White House or a misplaced desire to punish Britain for the Binyam Mohamed case and the disclosure of U.S. intelligence documents.

    ‘The decision, while feeble, is unsurprising. For the past year, Mr Obama has followed a foreign policy path that punishes allies and democracies while allowing rogue authoritarian nations like Iran and North Korea to pursue their objectives.’

    The criticism was echoed by Tory MP Patrick Mercer, the chairman of the Commons’ terrorism sub-committee. ‘The U.S. position on the Falklands certainly seems to be a warning shot which says to Britain: “Don’t mess us around too much or we could make life problematic”,’ he said.
    Last week, it was revealed that a conference to mark 60 years of UK and American defence intelligence sharing had been cancelled after the Mohamed judgment. It was to have been held at the U.S. Embassy in London.

    Relations between the UK and U.S. nosedived last summer over the decision by the Scottish authorities to release the Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Al Megrahi back to Libya.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253878/Falkland-Islands-oil-row-Hillary-Clinton-steps-Argentina-stand-off.html

  43. Thank you Hillary!

    ——————-
    Clinton: Goldstone problematic for other countries

    US secretary of state tells House of Representatives that report accusing Israel of committing war crimes in Gaza could cause problems for United States, other states fighting terror. Congress members urged Obama administration to keep report from advancing to International Court of Justice

    Yitzhak Benhorin Published: 02.26.10, 07:30 / Israel News

    WASHINGTON – A day before the United Nations General Assembly meets for a second discussion on the Goldstone Report, which accused Israel of committing war crimes in Gaza, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday expressed her reservations about the report and clarified that the Jewish state could launch an internal investigation into Operation Cast Lead.

    She admitted that the report was problematic for the United States and other countries, which face the same type of war on terrorism coming out of populated areas.

    The US secretary of state told the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee in a testimony Thursday that the Obama administration believed the issues raised by the Goldstone Report must be subject to an internal inquiry. She said she believed Israel has the ability and the institutions to do so and that the Jewish state was carrying out its own inquiry.

    Clinton warned that the US would not be the only one to be affected if the Goldstone Report sets the international standards, and that nearly any other country will be found responsible in a similar way. “I share the concern,” she said.

    ‘Defend right to self defense’

    Meanwhile, more than 100 Congress members have sent a letter to Clinton, urging the Obama administration to keep the Goldstone Report from reaching the International Court of Justice in The Hague. The letter was initiated by Congressman Ron Klein.

    The UN General Assembly president, Ali Treki of Libya, called a meeting on Friday to continue discussing the Goldstone Report, which will end with a decision according to the draft distributed to the committee members, giving Israel and the Palestinians five months to complete their investigations.

    The Congress members wrote to Clinton that in although the Obama administration opposes the report strongly, countries which do not share the vision of a peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue to use it as a tool to question Israel’s legitimacy and sabotage the peace process. They called on the secretary of state to continue working to stop “these unjustified attacks on Israel”.

    “We know you share our concerns about an anticipated UN General Assembly resolution that is expected to refer the Goldstone Report to the Security Council, and ultimately to the International Court of Justice,” said the letter. “This is an extremely troubling development that threatens to undermine the renewal of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks at a critical time, and is counterproductive to our foreign policy goals.

    “We believe that the correct venue for investigating issues related to Operation Cast Lead is not the Security Council or the International Court of Justice, but the world-class Israeli justice system itself,” the Congress members wrote.

    They also asked Clinton to work to defend the right for self defense of Israel, the US and all free democracies, saying this was a top priority of the American foreign policy.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3854841,00.html

  44. Confloyd said: I wish there were way to figure these guys out before we put them
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What they have done tells us who they are. Of course, even then, we get no guarantees and the only warranty is the next election when we can trade them in.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Confloyd said: So Amadinejad is shooting his mouth off again?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, still. And Hillary is right to talk like a hawk.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Confloyd said: I hear you really got bad weather up there in the northeast. You all take care!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Not the coast – we got big rain and wind – beat on the windows and rattled the house last night, but at the mo, the sun is clearing away the fog – wish we could say the same about the political scene. The Mr Ms and Mrs Average Citizens I talked to thought the OFraud TV production offered no clarification of any kind of healthcare plan. Said it was a waste of time and talk and that the only players who made any sense were Republicans which is of course exactly what the media folks are saying, too. Everytime the Fraud makes a public appearance people think less and less of him. It’s getting so I can’t find anybody to argue with!

  45. lil ole grape,

    Now I hear that something is going on with medicare funding and the dr’s. are threatening not to see the medicare pts.

    I believe we need to get the fraud and waste out of medicare…..O is just not with it enough to get this message out correctly so it does NOT scare the patients or the doctors……he is an enept leader…..just look at the last two posts about Hillary…..she could have convinced everyone that the medicare waste was something that has to be done and not to worry you will get the coverage you need……if Reagan can fire the air traffic controllers…..The President can make the doctors see the patients…….whatever happened to the hippocratic oath……

  46. Connie, most people I know agree that we’re not going to get anything sane done about healthcare until we get Hillary behind the desk in the Oval Office. And I know a doctor who agrees with this. She not only knows how to fix it, she can give people of shaky integrity the courage to stand tough against fraud, waste and pressures from the drug, hospital and insurance piggies.

  47. I knew the Dems were in trouble when the Rep layout the errors in the financial logic so clearly, and O just looked at him and said NEXT. The Reps know that Americans are worried about the debt, and adding to it.

    He should have been ready for that one.

  48. Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Friday, February 26, 2010 Email to a Friend ShareThisAdvertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-three percent (43%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20. For President Obama, the Approval Index has been lower only once (see trends).

    Data for these updates is collected via nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, just one-third of the interviews for today’s update were collected following the President’s health-care summit. Sunday morning will be the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the summit.

    By a 46% to 29% margin, Democrats say it would be better for workers if they were dropped from their employers health insurance coverage and enrolled in a government plan. Republicans and unaffiliated voters disagree. Voters are divided on support for a “public option.”

    Fifty percent (50%) see China as a long-term threat to the United States.

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates are also available on Twitter and Facebook.

    Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. That matches the lowest level of total approval yet measured for this President. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove.

  49. lil ole grape, The democrats without Bill and Hillary come off as stupid, thats why the repubs hate Bill and Hillary, but we have to constantly convince the leftists (dumbasses) in our party of Hillary’s ability. I for one am sick of that.
    Obama went to that meeting without even once comtemplating how/what the rethugs would bring with them for this meeting. They only brought Obama (I guess their still drinking his koolaid). IT was a complete failure because the rethugs brought doctors and doctors/politicians to the meeting and the dims looked like dimwitts as usual.

    Rass has the fraud down and the stock market is up….does that tell anybody on the left anything…..NO

  50. I hear you really got bad weather up there in the northeast. You all take care!!

    Really bad. My power just came back on after more than 12 hours of no light, no heat, no coffee. It went out last night right after I posted here. I thought maybe Obama’s goons had finally tracked me down and cut the cable.

  51. On healthcare, the question is whether or not Obama and the Democrat Party is stupid enough to continue kicking this dead horse in the face of overwhelming voter disapproval. We are getting living proof, day after day, that this New Democrat Party is simply incapable of governing effectively.

  52. hwc,

    I thought maybe Obama’s goons had finally tracked me down and cut the cable.

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    ROTFLMAO!! I have often thought that when my computer was acting up or when the IRS started bugging me again after 10 years. Glad you got your power back on. I’d be scared up there in the frozen tundra without heat and electricity. Here in Texas we can always make it, but in the summer without a/c we have heat strokes. JUst as bad I imagine.

  53. OUt of the 20 times the reconciliation has been used, the republicans have used it 16 times.

    I am not advocating using it, but I would like for the republicans to at least be honest and quit pulling the wool over americans eyes. Its their same old tricks. Why can’t they be honest and say we’ve used, but its not a good idea for this one. They are all liars!

  54. Funny posting from FDL:

    “The historic Conclave at Blair Castle has finally ended, the illustrious personages in attendance have shared their wisdom with us, and I have humbly transcribed their words, so serfs everywhere will be able to sleep well tonight knowing that all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well . . .

    Obama, the Lord of Change, began the proceedings by talking about letters he’s received from serfs imploring him to provide them with more labor, and lamented the fact that many of them have lost their huts. Many other serfs are worried that they’ll lose their huts too, he said, and are just as worried that they’ll get sick, won’t be able to work in the fields anymore, and will get thrown out of their huts by sheriffs with Writs of Eviction.

    Duke Alexander, a loyal vassal of King WellPoint, responded by arguing that most of the serfs still have their huts and don’t get sick every day. Consequently, it would be irresponsible to overreact by issuing that Proclamation of Healing the Lord of Change and his minions are so proud of. Furthermore, the serfs overwhelmingly oppose it, so it’s going to be necessary to start all over again and write an entirely new Proclamation of Healing.

    Duchess Pelosi disagreed, and argued that the serfs are dropping like flies. We have to be bold and resolute, she said, or they’re going to keep dropping like flies and we’re going to run out of serfs.”

    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/31866

  55. Judd Gregg is a fiscal hawk Republican Senator from New Hampshire. He is retiring in November. Very, very well respected. Probably as well-respected as anyone in the US Senate.

  56. The Democrat Party should just stop effin’ around and pass their damn health care bill if that’s what they want to do. I don’t really understand what all the squealing is about. They clearly don’t care what the people want and they have the votes. Don’t they? Just get on with it.

  57. Whirlpool in Evansville, Indiana is closing and threatening its workers not to participate in protests against its closure. No more Whirlpool products for me.

  58. Gregg is the son of a NH governor. Exeter Academy, Columbia University, BU Law School.

    Did four terms in the US House. One term as NH governor. He’s wrapping up his third term in the US Senate.

    I know people who know him and say he’s just disgusted with Washington’s refusal to act like grown ups on fiscal issues.

    He initially accepted Obama’s Sec. Commerce position and then realized Obama was just blowing smoke up his ass about wanting serious bipartisanship, so he withdrew his name from nomination.

  59. confloyd:

    between yesterday and today, we’ve had 5″ of rain. Lucky it was rain and not 6′ of snow-

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    birdgal-

    The parody from FDL is hilarious!

  60. Confloyd

    I believe the GOP (many of them) have admitted publicly to using that method but have said it was for legitimate budget issues. what you stated above is a democrat talking point used to paint the GOP in a bad light….same old “half truths”

    there are big differences between what the GOP did and what the Dims are trying to do….what the dims are trying to do is unprecedented, as it is not a budgetary issue based on laws currently enacted, they are trying to pass laws, it is a huge piece of legislation they are trying to pass that controls 1/6th of our economy.

    and according to what i have read else where reconciliation was never intended to be used to “pass” new laws… only to adjust budgets already passed.

    so.. IMHO …far far far worse than anything the GOP has passed using this method.

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