Update: Obama’s short, limp, weak, speech is over. Short version of the speech (which had no details – what did Obama do for three months?) is: “we’re accelerating in to accelerate out”.
A pictorial representation of the speech is here:
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If you elect a boob, expect boobery. A while back we made our “Julia Child” analogy regarding universal health care. The “Julia Child” analogy is also apt for the situation in Afghanistan:
Think of it this way: A hungry person gets two invitations for dinner. The first invitation is from Julia Child. The second invitation is from Jeffrey Dahmer.
With the first invitation from Julia Child (a.k.a. Hillary Clinton) the hungry person is sure to get a delicious nutritious dinner from an experienced and knowledgeable and trustworthy cook who knows the pitfalls of the kitchen. With the second invitation from Jeffrey Dahmer (a.k.a. Barack Obama) the hungry person will be on the table as the dinner.
The above was from Obama Holds Press Conference At Waterloo. That was the presser that ended with Obama insulting the Cambridge Police Department. That press conference was supposed to force the U.S. Senate to vote on health care before the August recess. That press conference was a failure.
Tonight we have yet another Obama publicity stunt. The stage props tonight will be cadets at West Point Academy.
We’ll wait patiently for the publicity stunt words to roll out of Obama’s mouth tonight. But we don’t think things will go well. If you elect a boob, expect boobery.
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There is a reason why Americans are so concerned about the White House “party crashers”. The story is interesting not because of people sneaking into a state dinner. It’s not even about all the misspellings on the White House menu for a state dinner. It’s about the disarray people sense and things unraveling.
Many Americans are upset at the lavish Obama party spending in the face of so much economic dislocation. Even so, with all the assistants Michelle Obama has hired to keep her high on the hog, with all the employees dedicated to state dinner jobs, how do such “mishaps” happen? What do the little things say about the big things?
A little noticed Newsweek story clues us in to the fact that the Secret Service is taking all the blame when clearly something else is going on:
The White House staff member whose job was to supervise the guest list for state dinners and clear invitees into the events says she was stripped of most of her responsibilities earlier this year, prompting her to resign last June.
The account of Cathy Hargraves, who formerly served as White House “assistant for arrangements,” raises new questions about whether changes that she says were made by President Obama’s social secretary, Desiree Rogers, may have contributed to the security lapses that permitted Virginia socialites Michaele and Tareq Salahi to crash the state dinner for India’s prime minister last week and get themselves photographed with the president.
Hargraves tells Declassified in an exclusive interview that although she had originally been hired as a White House political appointee in 2001, she landed a new position on the White House residence staff in 2006 and was specifically detailed to the social office to work on state dinners.
Her job duties included overseeing the invitations for guests at state dinners and keeping track of RSVPs, she says. On the evening of state dinners, she says, she physically stood at the East Gate portico entrance and greeted each of the guests as they arrived, checking their names off a computerized printout of those who had been invited.
But when she met with Rogers last February and went over her job responsibilities, she says, the new social secretary told her, “We don’t feel we have a need for that anymore.” Rogers’s explanation, according to Hargraves: “In these economic times, I don’t think we’re going to have very many lavish expensive dinners. It wouldn’t look very good.”
Yet the lavish Marie Antoinette entertainments flourished with sleeveless Michelle presiding.
The lavish wit of yesteryear, Dorothy Parker, was once asked to use the word “horticulture” in a sentence. Parker replied, “You can lead a horticulture, but you can’t make her think.” In the same way you can give Obama a perfect plan but it won’t work. You can give Obama a Julia Child recipe but what he produces will not be edible. Obama may or may not have a perfect plan for Afghanistan, but boobery will ensue.
Think of it this way: In any Three Stooges short film, the Stooges might be wealthy and dressed in Tuxedos, but the end result will be the same – a pie fight will ensue. Larry’s hair will eventually be yanked by the fistful, and Curley is sure to have a hammer clammer on his head.
It does not matter what Obama does or says at 8:00 p.m. tonight. Expect boobery.
Obama’s post-dither speech tonight will not exude the resolve nor the patience to inspire American troops in the field. We expect Obama will announce a “surge” of troops to Afghanistan, while focusing on withdrawal. It will be a double message which will not radiate confidence. There will be promises a plenty too. We don’t expect the latest Guantanamo-style promises on Afghanistan to be kept.
Later this week there will be yet another Obama publicity stunt. That one will be about job creation. Expect lots of flowery words and boobery, but no results
The Dimocrats who enabled all this boobery will continue to make excuses for Obama. When a vote for funding of Obama’s War comes to a vote we hope Republicans will stay in their seats and not vote until the Dimocrats who called Hillary a “war-monger” are forced to produce the votes all by themselves to fund Obama’s War. Only then should Republicans get up off their seats to vote.
Elections have consequences and only now will Dimocrats begin to understand the boobery they have enabled and inflicted on the nation. Unfortunately those troops that will put their lives on the line will be the ones to suffer.
On land, on sea, in the air, the consequences of tonight’s speech will be made manifest.
This Christmas season, we’ll just have to muddle through somehow. We could have had a real commander-in-chief who knew what she was doing.
We’ll have to muddle through somehow:
Dec. 1, 2009
Chelsea Clinton to Wed Next Summer
Former First Daughter to Wed Longtime Beau Mark Mezvinksy, Hillary Clinton Confirms Engagement to CBS News’ Michelle Miller
Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton has announced she’s engaged to her longtime beau Mark Mezvinsky, and plans to wed next summer.
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LOL! At first reading I thought she was engaged to Michelle Miller!
Sorry no time today but wasn’t Hillary quoted not long ago as saying she was Goldilocks bewteen extremes on Afganistan troop requests and did she mention the figure 30,000 instead of what the extremes wanted???????
We could have had a real commander-in-chief who knew what she was doing.
No kidding. Eagleburger on Cavuto called Obama and his advisers amateurs but made a special exception to SoS. There was another article by Faoud Azami in WSJ that showed Obama’s boobery especially how he on his apeasement tour has failed to impress the Arabs — they don’t like a guy who bad mouths his own.
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499404574558300500152682.html?mod=rss_Today%27s_Most_Popular
Hillary has played it very smart by not publicly discussing exact numbers. She understands that the far left already will blame her as a “bad influence” and applaud Biden who was ready to leave and declare victory. We should have been in Afghanistan in large numbers from the beginning as this is where those savages plotted and trained for 9/11. Obama even claimed it was a “war of necessity”. He simply wanted ample cover and time to cover himself for a decision that was by and large already made before Gen. McCrystal’s request. This whole “deep” thought process is a crock of shit. Many soldiers died while Obama , more or less, voted once again “present” and had to let other make the argument for him.
Here is a cleaner link for the WSJ Azami article (I like this guy and have referenced his article in my NQ post — Obama’s Summer of Wee Wee):
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499404574558300500152682.html
simply put
2 Sayings modified…..
“An asshole never changes his spots”
or
“Once a moron always a moron”
Amazing both apply to Obama so easily.
Comedy Central quotes CNN:
http://www.indecisionforever.com/2009/12/01/barack-obama-wants-to-end-the-war-in-afghanistan-in-three-years-for-some-reason/?xrs=
* Don’t worry. It won’t. Those troops will be there for at least another decade or so.
JbStonesFan, the Kooks will blame Hillary and Republicans. That is why we suggest that Republicans stay in their seats for the vote until the Dimocrats themselves have to arm twist to get the votes for the war funding. Republicans should not provide cover for Obama.
As to Hillary, she will make sense with her suggestions. The problem will remain that she is not the one in charge. There is a boob in charge.
jbstonesfan
December 1st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
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Admin,
Very timely article. Your choice of clip is my all-time favorite scene and song of Judy Garland’s. Thanks for the memories even if you posted it for other reasons.
admin:
“Think of it this way: A hungry person gets two invitations for dinner. The first invitation is from Julia Child (Hillary Clinton). The second invitation is from Jeffrey Dahmer.”
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Yes, the hungry person invited to the Julia Child dinner will eat well. Barack O’Dahmer knows he well eat well after he finishes with his hungry guest.
(your analogy is as funny as hell, admin)
BARF ALERT!
NBC/Vanity Fair poll asks if a 5th prez should be added to Mount Rushmore and if it should be Squat!
On another note – LSM is lying about Squat’s expected announcement of 30,000 troops for Afghanistan as being close to what McCrystal asked for. Nope. He originally requested 60G.
How sickening that anyone has to serve under a POS POTUS like Squat.
politico.com/click/stories/0912/potus_is_boon_for_prompter_industry.html
Ernie Harris has one favor to ask of Barack Obama: Please, Mr. President, lower the eye line of your teleprompter panels.
The current height of the beam splitters — as they are called — makes the president’s chin lift too much, says Harris, which creates the appearance that Obama is talking down to his audience.
Harris should know. He’s the general manager of Capitol Prompting Service Inc., an Arlington, Va.-based company that has supplied prompters to numerous politicians. Last year, the company was the main supplier for Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign, and it currently provides equipment to several members of Obama’s Cabinet.
The use of teleprompters has become so identified with the current commander in chief that it’s made for an axiom: As goes Obama, so goes the prompter. Critics looking to take Obama’s oratory down a peg have derisively pointed to the device, as if to say, “If he’s really so good, why is he reading?” Others have had fun with it: The satirical publication The Onion recently posted an online video sendup mocking the president’s prompter use, just another in a long line of ribbings he’s received. (No matter that The Onion rents prompters for its fake TV news programs from the same company that sold the White House its current lot of hardware.)
Obama’s embrace has changed the game for those like Harris. “We used to float under the radar,” he says.
But not any longer. Obama’s much-publicized usage has both provided a wealth of free advertising for the industry and added to the besmirchment of the speaking aid as a crutch. “I think it is good in that it gets it out there,” says Harris, “but sometimes I think it creates a stigma we have a hard time overcoming.”
Steve Carofalo, general manager at the New York-based prompter company Q-TV, says corporate clients began moving away from using “presidential-style” prompting in the late 1990s, when the stigmatizing first began. For that crowd, he says, Obama’s use and the ensuing conversation around it have further discouraged it.
“These are Type A personalities, chief executives, and they don’t want to look bad,” Carofalo says. “They want to put the best face forward, and a lot of them are doing off-the-cuff, extemporaneous remarks, so that it is more real.”
From the time Obama announced his candidacy to the present day, the president has been committed to the prompter. Harris says that several McCain staffers put forth the idea early in the general election that their candidate go off prompter to distinguish himself from his opponent. Ultimately, and at times quite clumsily, McCain decided to use one anyway.
Sean Graham-White, whose Chicago-based business, SGW Teleprompting Solutions, staffed and supplied the Obama campaign, says he was reluctant to advertise his famous client for a while.
“I didn’t really publicize it so much,” he says. “Because it was such a polarizing campaign, I didn’t want to go out there and say, ‘I am the Obama guy.’”
But after Obama took office, Graham-White says, he’s less wary about the association and now features a photo of the campaign and a testimonial from the president on his company’s website.
For every few dozen new clients who are encouraged by Obama’s use of prompters, Graham-White says, he gets a few who express leeriness because of how they’ve interpreted the president’s use. On balance, it’s been good for business, but Graham-White, Harris and others speak of the calamitous possibilities that could arise from a single bad prompting episode.
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Ernie Harris has one favor to ask of Barack Obama: Please, Mr. President, lower the eye line of your teleprompter panels.
The current height of the beam splitters – as they are called – makes the president’s chin lift too much, says Harris, which creates the appearance that Obama is talking down to his audience.
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he IS talking down to his audience, Mr. Harris…
…harris does not realize that O likes to always have his nose up in the air and looking down at people…just look at him in any photo at any event and he is always got his nose up in the air and peering down from that vantage point…
yeah, Basil9…Mt. Rushmore to go with his Nobel Peace Prize for doing “squat” and actually decreasing the amount of people in the democratic party…and increasing unemployment and foreclosures while looting the treasury at the same time…
oh…the irony of it all…
politics.theatlantic.com/2009/12/dept_of_bad_timing_obama_and_tiger_on_the_cover_of_golf_digest.php
Dept. Of Bad Timing: Obama And Tiger On The Cover Of Golf Digest
What timing: President Obama and Tiger Woods will appear together on the cover of the January issue of Golf Digest.
It could be the most politically charged Golf Digest cover ever. Woods is dealing with a swirl of rumors and media scrutiny after crashing into a fire hydrant outside his house at 2:30 a.m. and his wife bashing his SUV’s window with a golf club. Obama is sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and trying to pass a health care bill.
On the inside spread, the cover story is titled: “What President Obama could learn from Tiger Woods–and vice versa.” Seriously.
Any suggestions for what each could learn?
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once again…you cannot make this stuff up…photo at site above…
jbstonesfan
December 1st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
We should have been in Afghanistan in large numbers from the beginning as this is where those savages plotted and trained for 9/11.
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Obama is on record in summer 2007 saying in a careful position paper that we should move the troops from Iraq to “the real battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan.” He has been saying for a long time that we should have gone into Afgan instead of Iraq in the first place and Iraq was a distraction from that.
gag alert…
Bernanke, Obama among world’s top thinkers: report
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j4df2dyd9yRdYH91373gYPIkf_Ew
Clinton to attend NATO meeting on Friday
WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will attend a “very important” meeting of NATO foreign ministers on Friday, her office said, as Washington seeks further allied reinforcements for Afghanistan.
The Brussels meeting, the first between Clinton and her 28 NATO counterparts, follows an expected announcement from US President Barack Obama later Tuesday that he is sending another 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.
The United States is counting on its allies — more than 40 countries have troops in Afghanistan — and particularly European nations to provide up to 10,000 troops to meet recommendations by the top US and NATO officer there.
But so far US allies are only expected to be able to muster between 4,000 and 5,000 extra troops, some of which are already in Afghanistan as temporary reinforcements, a NATO officer said Tuesday.
Ministers will also meet Friday with counterparts from countries who are not members of the military alliance but contribute troops to the 112,000-strong NATO-led International Security and Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.
Friday’s gathering was a “very important coordination meeting” for future Afghan deployments, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said, adding that Clinton will leave Washington on Thursday.
NATO military officers are to meet in southern Belgium on December 7 to rubber stamp the commitments already in the pipeline.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h9_hGk6I9xAt67HlAEN35vURHzUg
Clinton: ‘Civilian efforts as vital as military operations’
By Jill Dougherty
December 1, 2009
Washington (CNN) — As President Obama prepared to explain his military strategy for Afghanistan Tuesday, his secretary of state said U.S. civilian efforts are just as critical to successfully getting Afghanistan back on its feet.
At the same time, a diplomatic source says the United States is pushing for an international “special coordinator” to work in parallel with the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
Speaking Monday in New York to the Business Executives for National Security Gala, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington’s “goals in Afghanistan include providing the government with the support that it needs to take full responsibility for its own country.
“That makes civilian efforts as vital as military operations and of longer duration,” she said. “We have begun to elevate diplomacy and development alongside defense in our national security strategy, and we are certainly engaged in doing so in Afghanistan.”
Clinton described the work of the State Department, USAID and other government agencies deployed in Afghanistan. She said experts from the U.S. Department of Agriculture are embedded with the U.S. military and “rule of law” experts are working to extend a system of justice “so that the Taliban would not offer the only form of justice in Afghanistan.”
The State Department says it is tripling the number of civilian staff deployed to Afghanistan, and plans to have 974 staff members there by early 2010.
U.S. Department of State
Despite the increased numbers of U.S. civilians expected to go to Afghanistan, and Obama’s expected announcement that 30,000 more U.S. troops will deploy there, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs cautioned that the U.S. mission will not be “nation-building.”
“As the president said, we can’t be there forever. This can’t be nation-building. This can’t be open-ended,” Gibbs told CNN Tuesday. “We have to help clear and hold areas that the Taliban control now, but we have to transfer that to a competent Afghan government that’s addressed governance and corruption issues but also understand that they alone have the responsibility to provide their own security going forward.”
Clinton, according to the State Department, has been involved in intense diplomacy in the run-up to the president’s speech, speaking by phone with the foreign ministers of more than a dozen countries over the past week to outline Obama’s strategy. But she appears to be encountering reluctance among some allies to ante up more support.
French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner was one of those contacted by Clinton, a European diplomat told CNN. In a conversation last Thursday, the diplomat said Kouchner told Clinton that France “will stay as long as needed” in Afghanistan but has no plans to send more than the 3,750 French troops currently there. The State Department refused to confirm that Clinton asked Kouchner for more troops.
Meanwhile, a senior U.S. official speaking on background according to State Department ground rules said Clinton supports the concept of an international special coordinator who would work with the Karzai government to strengthen it and avoid possibilities for corruption. The idea has been proposed informally by U.S. special representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke.
State Department spokesman Ian Kelly denied Tuesday that having a coordinator would be an attempt at an “end-run” around Karzai, whose government has been accused of mismanagement and corruption.
“It’s a coordinating role,” Kelly said. “It’s about coordinating civilian developmental and other resources among international partners. This is about helping build the capacity of the Afghan government. It is not about by-passing.” “We are trying to better support the Afghan government. This is the main objective of having this civilian coordinator. And it will include a role for the U.N. as well,” he added.
The European diplomat, speaking on background because of the sensitivity of the subject, agreed. “He [Karzai] has a lot to deliver and we want to make sure he does,” the diplomat said. “We want to help him.”
Other ideas being proposed by Europeans include creating a “secretariat” of the government, an administrative service that would assure the functioning of the government, this official said. While there are many different ideas, there is no deadline for accepting them, the diplomat said. The hope is that proposals might be ready for discussion at the international conference on Afghanistan that will be held in London, England, on January 28, 2010.
Mark Schneider, senior vice president of the International Crisis Group, said Holbrooke appears to be basing his idea on the model adopted after the war in Bosnia, under which the office of High Representative had “enormous powers” to void legislation and fire corrupt officials.
The situation in Afghanistan is not the same, Schneider said, but the hope would be that Karzai would agree to have an international overseer to help the government deal with corruption, lack of effectiveness and the civilian side of the counter-insurgency effort.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/01/clinton.afghanistan/
JbStonesFan, the Kooks will blame Hillary and Republicans. That is why we suggest that Republicans stay in their seats for the vote until the Dimocrats themselves have to arm twist to get the votes for the war funding. Republicans should not provide cover for Obama.
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Brilliant!!!!!
yeah, Basil9…Mt. Rushmore to go with his Nobel Peace Prize for doing “squat” and actually decreasing the amount of people in the democratic party…and increasing unemployment and foreclosures while looting the treasury at the same time…
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Why despoil Mount Rushmore?
“As the president said, we can’t be there forever. This can’t be nation-building. This can’t be open-ended,” Gibbs told CNN
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Gibbs (hereinafter “Curly” from the Three Stooges) is right! His military commanders say eight years and eight years is not forever. Except there are economic and geopolitical considerations which will extend our mission to maybe 50 years. But as Curly says, fifty years are not forever. Diamonds are forever, and Curly would look good with one in his ear. And Curly is right when he says this cannot be nation building. Even if we hire contractors, build cities, let global capitalists plunder what is there we must not call it nation building. Obama does not do nation building. But any company with roots in Chicago should be banned from participating in this grand delusion which we shall not call nation building. There is too much corruption in their circle. Forget about all this bullshit Curly, and give me two honest answers if you are capable of telling the truth: i) how much will it cost? ii) who will pay for it. One more question: is Britain pulling out?
Snot nosed David Gregory is the oldest 37 I have ever seen. He claims Obama is better than Bush because he is plans to withdraw from Iraq. If Bush were in he would be pulling out as well, so what is the point? Isn’t it true that Obama voted in favor of every spending measure. He is no better than Bush. He misses the critical point which is that Obama is doubling down in Afghanistan, becoming a war president, and committing us to another Viet Nam. David Gregory is not very smart and his only redeeming virtue is his name is not Russert. Let us hope that jackal is sitting inside the gates of hell with Jeffery D, deciding what is for dinner.
wbboei, Just a little info about politics of East Texas. 5 low level politicians have decided to change to republicans for 2010. Like rats leaving a sinking ship. They know most people are going to vote a straight rethug ticket in 2010 so they want to get out of the way of that. LOL!!
Even these local politicians know the dimocrats are going to get their asses handed to them in 2010.
Cover Of Golf Digest
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At one time this was a great magazine. Ben Hogan published his classic The Fundamentals of Moder Golf in their pages in 1956. Some of their camera work is excellent. And they have run alot of article by my golf teacher David Leadbetter. Today however Golf Digest is too much like Oprah.
If you have played golf you know there is a big difference between low gross and low net. Low gross your actual score. Low net is your actual score minus your handicap. One of the many ways to cheat in the game of golf is to inflate your handicap. The technical term for this is sandbagging.
Now that you understand the difference between low gross and low net, you will understand the difference between Tiger(who is the real thing) and Obama (who is a fraud). With apologies to Jerry Tarde who wrote an article a twenty years ago entitled “Why it is becoming a low net world”.
1. Golf carts are low net. Walking is low gross.
2. Mulligans are low net. Playing the ball out of a divot hole without complaining is low gross.
3. The Crosby was low net when Bing ran it. When Katherine moved it to North Carolina it became low gross.
4. The senior tour is low net. The PGA tour is low gross.
5. Eighteen hold playoffs in major championships are low net. Sudden death playoffs are low gross.
6. A LeRoy Neiman print in your living room is low net. Keeping your trophies in the attic is low gross.
7. Pete Dye dinosaur mounds are low net. Courses like Pine Valley designed by dead architects are low gross.
8. Blowhard CEOs interviewed at tournaments is low net. Understated corp sponsorship is low net–Masters.
9. Laying up when you have a chance to win is low net. Going for it and risking it all is low net.
10.Obama is low net. Tiger Woods is low gross.
Tiger is the best golfer of his generation, and maybe the greatest ever if you adjust for equipment. What Tiger is to Golf, our girl Hillary is to leadership–the best of the best.
The publicity stunt is about to begin.
if this a**hole utters the words duty, honor, country, i will puke for sure.
Correction: I got distracted. 8 & 9 are wrong. It should read:
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Cover Of Golf Digest
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At one time this was a great magazine. Ben Hogan published his classic The Fundamentals of Moder Golf in their pages in 1956. Some of their camera work is excellent. And they have run alot of article by my golf teacher David Leadbetter. Today however Golf Digest is too much like Oprah.
If you have played golf you know there is a big difference between low gross and low net. Low gross your actual score. Low net is your actual score minus your handicap. One of the many ways to cheat in the game of golf is to inflate your handicap. The technical term for this is sandbagging.
Now that you understand the difference between low gross and low net, you will understand the difference between Tiger(who is the real thing) and Obama (who is a fraud). With apologies to Jerry Tarde who wrote an article a twenty years ago entitled “Why it is becoming a low net world”.
1. Golf carts are low net. Walking is low gross.
2. Mulligans are low net. Playing the ball out of a divot hole without complaining is low gross.
3. The Crosby was low net when Bing ran it. When Katherine moved it to North Carolina it became low gross.
4. The senior tour is low net. The PGA tour is low gross.
5. Eighteen hold playoffs in major championships are low net. Sudden death playoffs are low gross.
6. A LeRoy Neiman print in your living room is low net. Keeping your trophies in the attic is low gross.
7. Pete Dye dinosaur mounds are low net. Courses like Pine Valley designed by dead architects are low gross.
8. Blowhard CEOs interviewed at tournaments is low net. Understated corp sponsorship is low gross–Masters.
9. Laying up when you have a chance to win is low net. Going for it and risking it all is low gross.
10.Obama is low net. Tiger Woods is low gross.
Tiger is the best golfer of his generation, and maybe the greatest ever if you adjust for equipment. What Tiger is to Golf, our girl Hillary is to leadership–the best of the best.
Obama starts by reliving 9/11 and blaming George W. for not sending enough troops to Afghanistan.
I need a proof reader. Hogans book was the Fundamentals of Modern Golf. I misspelled the word Modern. For at least forty years it was the teaching bible of the USGA. He was the greatest ball striker who ever lived, and the game in those days was less a game of power and more a game of finesse. If you substitute the word money for power the analogy to politics becomes obvious.
Obama starts by reliving 9/11 and blaming George W. for not sending enough troops to Afghanistan.
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He just became a war president in the mind of Michael Moore. That should be the que to Republicans to do what you suggested above.
Let us hope the public is smart enough to see through this charade. Again, the question is whom do you trust. The words are not his own, and he breaks every promise he makes. Why should anyone believe him now?
The look on the cadet’s faces is one of disgust. Thinking to themselves, why in the world did we vote for this guy in the first place? Where is the Hope and Change? They were told by Obama, he would bring everyone home starting on day 1 he is in office. Obama is waxing Bush III.
The TelePrompTer appears to be working. Something appears to have gone awry with the lack of introduction however. Maybe it was planned?
ok al qaeda, you’ve heard it from the horses mouth, all you’ve gotta do is hide in your caves for the next 18 mos. after that it will be “party time” for the terrorists.
He appeared at first to address the Vietnam analogy but then gave it very short shrift. He only said that Americans are not fighting alone. Now he seems to be addressing the cost issue but not a whiff about how “guns and butter” can be had at the same time.
Now we are back to Obama flowery words about how he will rewrite the rules of war.
Twenty eight minutes into his speech, cadets falling asleep at the same ole, same ole- BS…
Mrs. Smith, it is so silent, no applause, we forgot there was an audience.
Finally, some applause.
He’s back to borrowing from Abe Lincoln.
When BO mentioned the word prosperity… no one looked up.
Someone just lit up the applause sign.. hmm..
total bomb.
It’s over already.
Resist DC: A Step-by-Step Plan for Freedom
Rep. Matthew Shea (WA-4th)
Tenth Amendment Center
November 30, 2009
This summer, legislators from several states met to discuss the steps needed to restore our Constitutional Republic. The federal government has ignored the many state sovereignty resolutions from 2009 notifying it to cease and desist its current and continued overreach. The group decided it was time to actively counter the tyranny emanating from Washington D.C.
From those discussions it became clear three things needed to happen.
• State Legislatures need to pass 10 key pieces of legislation “with teeth” to put the federal government back in its place.
• The people must pass the legislation through the Initiative process if any piece of the legislative agenda fails.
• County Sheriffs must reaffirm and uphold their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
With the advent of the Tea Party Movement, many people have been asking how exactly we can make the above reality. What follows is Part I of the outline of that plan regarding state legislation, the action steps any concerned citizen can take to see this legislation to fruition, and the brief history and justifications behind each.
Step 1: Reclaim State Sovereignty through Key Nullification Legislation
continued:
infowars.com/resist-dc-a-step-by-step-plan-for-freedom/
Did we miss the speech? This was 99% filler. No details on anything.
It’s over already.
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It’s the only thing that brought a smile to the cadet’s faces.
Talk about sending a message of weakness! The clarion call came from a kazoo.
The entire speech – nothing:
anyone have any reaction from the daily kooks side?
How appropriate- NBC’s World’s Biggest Loser is continuing programming after BO’s speech.
Admin,
thanks for the play-by-play.
Glad it wasn’t me that had to sit through it.
S,
ROTFLMFAO!
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We updated by adding a pictorial representation of Obama’s speech to our article.
Those poor cadets going off to war with weak Obama in charge.
Alcina, there is a strange silence from Kookville. We have not been to DailyKooks, but the other Obama Big Blog Boys are doing their best to ignore the speech. It’s almost as if they are pretending tonight did not happen. Kookville is silent now that the Grinch stole their Hopium.
For those that bothered to watch, did you see that just about every camera pan of the cadets had a few snoozing?
Bill O’Reilly just told Dennis Kucinich about Obama “He agrees more with me than with you.” That should help the DailyKooks who called Hillary a “war-monger” realize they have been had by a flim-flam man from Chicago.
admin, I am not sure he is a war-monger either. He is a spineless coward who is trying to have it both ways, by deploying new troops and talking about bringing them back in 18 months. But what is to be accomplished in those 18 months and how?
admin
December 1st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
The count was 1 in 10 nodding off from the rat-tat-tat droning of the speech until someone started to applaud waking-up those almost in Ambien state.
Why, Big Blog Boys like Ambinder are not having an orgasm crying that was the best speech ever (like they did last time for the Fort Hood one)?
Pm317, that is exactly the point – he’s trying to have it both ways. By talking “exit” he sends a message of weakness to opponents. What leaders do, even if unsure, is they make a strong case – and get beaten up by those who disagree with them domestically. Obama wants to keep the Dimocrats happy and threaten the enemy and fails at both.
What he needed to do was make a strong case for his position and take his lumps from those who enabled him. Instead he produced a speech which sends a message of weakness. Those in Afghanistan he is sending American troops to fight against get the message that the commander in chief lacks resolve and they just have to wait him out. Even if he did not like it, Obama should have sent a message of resolve to the troops and to enemies. Instead he sounded weak and limp.
As to calling him a “war-monger” we do so to force the DailyKooks and their ilk to look at themselves and how they attacked Hillary with those very words.
Obama is a profiteer involved in protecting Pakistan. The Gatecrashers are pro-Hamas and therefore welcome at the State dinner by their benefactor.
Lauer said, at first the Salani’s asked nbc for 6 figures to do the interview. They ended up with zero to prognosticate publicly.
prognosticatereplace with prevaricateM/b>.After this weak speech expect the “coalition of the willing” to become a coalition of the exiting.
prognosticatereplace with prevaricate.Did Tiger Woods watch the speech?
The concern I have about Obama as Commander In Chief (Toastmaster General and Gladhandler at large)is summed up by two lines from Tennyson about the Crimean War:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!
“Charge for the guns!” he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
2.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!”
Was there a man dismay’d?
Not tho’ the soldier knew
SOMEONE HAD BLUNDER’ED:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Fortunately, we have good commanders in the field. Let us hope he does not interfere.
After this weak speech, I expect a grand exodus to Mexico and Canada.
admin
December 1st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Did Tiger Woods watch the speech?
Tigger is Winnieing in deep Pooh…
So did obama just join the Republican Party?
Mrs. Smith….. No exodus anywhere for potus….. As it seems via drudge he will be partying 28 times in December like it’s 1999 with 50,000 visitors to the WH.
After this weak speech expect the “coalition of the willing” to become a coalition of the exiting.
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The question any ally must ask themselves about Obama is given his history of breaking his word, why should we count on him to keep his word in this instance. It is a serious question and it may cause the coalition to collapse. At a minimum, there is reasonable grounds for scepticism. In the past we could count on Britain and Israel to back us. He has undermined that coalition by his actions.
Admin, right, I do get why you say “war-monger.” BTW thanks for the comments. I didn’t watch the speech. Here is the incongruousness (?!) I see. Every life lost between now and the 18 months are up will be for what? When we are asking them to give their lives, we at least have to give them the mission/the vision of the same magnitude in the name of their country. But this guy goes limping around everywhere apologizing.
The Cadets were suffering from droopy eyelids syndrome while the messiah rambled on and on with his lullaby of BS.
The real president sat there and suffered in silence.This is itenarary for tomorrow.She will also appear before
the Foreign Affairs hearing at 1:30 pm on C-Span 3
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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to Travel to Brussels
Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
December 1, 2009
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Secretary of State Clinton will travel to Brussels December 4, 2009 to attend a meeting of the North Atlantic Council (NAC) at the level of Foreign Ministers to be held at NATO Headquarters. On the agenda will also be a meeting of NATO Foreign Ministers with Non-NATO ISAF contributing nations and a NATO-Russia Council working lunch.
She will also meet with NATO Secretary General Rasmussen, as well as with newly appointed Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme and Foreign Minister Steven Vanackere, and EU leaders
She will also
ABM90, tomorrow we will hear a presidential presentation from Hillary. Too bad she’s not the Julia Child in the kitchen.
My g-d that was awful…I felt terrible for those cadets having to listen to a guy who basically just told the enemy we are coming, but then going, once again, in front of our nations finest, apologized for our mistakes. Then tries to end it all in some kumbaya , we are the world, m=nonsense. Disgraceful, embarrassing, incompetent.
WH does all the research and framing for these bastards. They don’t have to lift a finger but to collect their fat checks.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1209/Obama_lunches_with_top_political_writers.html
JbStonesFan, Hillary will have to buck up the cadets and troops tomorrow when she testifies.
#djia
December 1st, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Mrs. Smith….. No exodus anywhere for potus….. As it seems via drudge he will be partying 28 times in December like it’s 1999 with 50,000 visitors to the WH.
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It’s disturbing to me Obama is depleting our domestic defenses by sending West Point cadets with their strategic military skills to die in A-stan. You know damn well, al queda will be hiding out in caves for the next 18 mos (the giveaway in Obama’s speech) forcing our troops out into the open as cannon fodder for the insurgents.
For what Obama is asking of the cadets and troops, that speech should have been given directly from the oval office.
At Puma P.A.C. the headline is “He Plays One On TV.”
http://pumapac.org/2009/12/01/he-plays-one-on-tv/#comments
WH does all the research and framing for these bastards. They don’t have to lift a finger but to collect their fat checks.
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They always go to the schamiest members of the press–like Eugene Robinson, Al Hunt and Joe Kline–cnn newsweek time and new york times, who are perfectly willing to lie for them.
The Confluence posted a video of Chris Matthews calling West Point “the Enemy Camp”. http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/why-is-chris-matthews-calling-westpoint-the-enemy-camp/
Warning: Chris Matthews is on the video:
Mathews should be fired immediately!!!!!!!! I am stunned that even a jackass like him could say something so incredibly stupid.
We’ve been punished enough. This is what we wanted to see:
This Robert Haass who was on to defend the decision is not only head of the Council of Foreign Affairs but is also a Bushie. Most likely a neocon. Why are these guys out front. Normally they stay back in the shadows. Remember Hillary’s comment about them when they moved from New York to Washington DC. I do not remember the exact words but it was a joke about them watching over the administration. Many a truth is said in jest/
http://www.cfr.org/publication/18273/war_of_necessity_war_of_choice.html
Matthews is a brain dead reader. Obama standing at the podium telling the cadets they are shipping out to A-stan to die for more of his lies. Didn’t Matthews hear the lofty words of spreading freedom and democracy coming from his boy? Did he expect cheers, smiles and unrelenting applause for Obama’s death knell proclamation to the cadets who understood fully he is asking them to give their lives for his ever vacillating words?
Better still, after the speech. The fast talking Richard Haas from the CFR was on with David Gregory. He sounded like a used car salesman selling a good looking car that was actually an underwater restoration job from Katrina.. pumping up Obama’s circular logic.
Greta Van Susteren opened her show with the Chris Matthews clip.
I am sure the cadets loved hearing how the Muslim religion was a wonderful religion after some of their countrymen in Texas was masacred by one of its followers.
Chris Mathews is losing it! West Point is the enemy camp! WOW!
Gah, he’s so darn COLD. One of the things that bothers me most is that you could tell he just flat doesn’t care, either way, except about how it will affect HIS career. It’s all politics to him. He was voting present.
If he believes it’s unwinnable militarily, then come out and MAKE THAT CASE, outline the withdrawal steps, and outline the bold alternatives we’ll pursue instead of continued occupation.
And though I’d disagree, I could (almost) respect him for it if he decided yes, we need to do this, we CAN win this, we’re going all-in, and he came out and gave his reasons, and rallied the nation and those young men and women to BELIEVE in their mission. I’d hate it, but I could at least respect it a tiny bit.
But THIS namby-pamby fence-straddling bullshit? He’s a f**king coward with no convictions at all, about anything. He’s an empty cipher. He’s a husk. It’s creepy. Our troops deserve so much better than that.
more from Obama mouthpieces, a different kind of propaganda news network, much more dangerous because they seem to be benign and thoughtful (there is that word again)..Ambinder did have his high today at the lunch with his best president evah..
politics.theatlantic.com/2009/12/interview_with_the_president_the_politics_of_escalation.php
pm, Ambinder needs to get off his knees and learn not to talk with his mouth full. Sorry, admin – I’m just so disgusted right now.
What did Plouffe say in his book? They (Obama’s campaign) gave/fed the reporters things to report as opposed to reporters digging up objective news and information about him and his fucking campaign. Well, they are still using the same MO/tricks with the lapdog media bastards.
Someone posted a photoshopped picture of a cadet reading a book “Kill Bin Laden”. hahahaha. Well, at least he wasn’t asleep.
Since when is West Point the “enemy camp” for the president? Matthews is a real nutcase. Why does he still have a job? Thanks for the pbp.
Obama issues order for escalation in Afghanistan
“The new “surge” follows the 21,000 additional troops Obama ordered to Afghanistan in the first weeks of his administration. It will bring the total US troop deployment to 100,000—the highest since the invasion eight years ago.
In escalating US violence in Afghanistan and threatening more direct military involvement in Pakistan, the administration is defying public opinion in the two countries, where popular opposition to US military operations is pervasive, and in the US itself, where opinion polls show that a majority of the American people is opposed to the war.
In its contempt for the will of the people, as in its policies on the economy, war and democratic rights, the Obama administration is continuing without a hitch the basic policies and methods of the Bush administration, which were repudiated by the electorate when it voted for Obama on the basis of his claim to be the candidate of “change.”
It is highly significant that, after the manner of his predecessor, Obama has chosen the US Military Academy at West Point as the venue for tonight’s nationally televised speech. He is not speaking as the civilian president from the Oval Office, as is traditional for major presidential policy statements, or going before the elected legislators in Congress.
Instead, he has chosen to address the officer corps who will be entrusted with carrying out his orders. He will speak as a military figure—the commander in chief—before a captive audience, outlining policies in Afghanistan and Pakistan that were set by the top military brass.
Obama’s choice of venue demonstrates that the main constituency to which he is appealing is the military. The more the administration pursues right-wing, unpopular policies—whether bailing out the banks, attacking civil liberties, or escalating the war—the more it seeks to base itself on the military and the national security apparatus.
The increasingly open and powerful role of the military in US political life has reached the point where the formal trappings of democracy have become almost irrelevant. Obama is signaling that the military represents an independent constituency, separate and apart from the people, whose approval must be secured, regardless the sentiments of the population.”
h… pumasunleashed.wordpress.com
damn him. Ben Nelson wants Stupak type language in the Senate bill. I hate his face, he is on Greta now.
pm317
December 1st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
damn him. Ben Nelson wants Stupak type language in the Senate bill. I hate his face, he is on Greta now.
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I loathe these guys that want to control women’s reproductive rights. What hubris.
Well, here’s a little tidbit of information I just mentioned today might happen in the not too distant future sometime after Christmas IF Obama keeps pushing Americans into a corner not only challenging their freedom but his lack of interest in America’s economic recovery and job creation.
“Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War” (here)
If it’s being predicted, you know it will be instigated by gov operatives.
“Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin today that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.”
h… pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/obama-orders-1-million-us-troops-to-prepare-for-civil-war/
The look at that poor woman’s face is haunting. Obama has no clue. He’s a boob.
Obama enabler Garry Wills will no longer guzzle Hopium, he says (and writes in the NYTimes Review of Books):
http://blogs.nybooks.com/post/265874686/afghanistan-the-betrayal
If Gibbs is Curly then Emanuel must be Moe.
Obama enabler Garry Wills will no longer guzzle Hopium, he says (and writes in the NYTimes Review of Books)
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Fine. Obama BETRAYED him. That is the word he uses and it is the only word that accurately describes what has occurred. That makes him better than Ambinder and the rest of the temporaizing rationalizing lying zombies. But he needs to go one step further to complete the recovery process. He needs to look in the mirror and say but for deceived fools like me who failed to do their homework we could have had a great president. We could have had Hillary.
I am not offended by Matthews statement. He spoke the truth. West Point is not the enemy of the United States. It is the hero of the United States. It has given us an officer corps second to none in the world–second only to Annapolis, on or off the grid iron. Matthews point was these men and women of honor are Obama’s enemy because he has no honor. I can tell you this for sure. I know these people and they have no patience with liars. Robert Service said it best.
I will not be won by weaklings
Subtle and suave and mild
But by men with the hearts of Vikings
And the simple faith of a child.
Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin today that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.”
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This is payback for what Soros did to Russia. I think this is KGB propaganda. Putin respects Hillary but has no use for the buffoon Obama. And he knows that the American People are losing their faith in him. This rumor would widen and deepen the schism. The other possibility is it is true.
Remember the lecture Putin gave him and the way nobody would shake his hand in the receiving line. I guarantee you Putin knows Obama is a Soros puppet, and he remembers only too well what Soros, Bzezinsky, Sachs et al did to Russia, Georgia and Ukraine. I hate to sound like a broken record, but Obamas intimate relationship with Soros anathema to Putin. That much is certain.
Some enterprising reporter needs to delve into the Council of Foreign Relations. The public needs to understand the nature of that organization, what its true purpose is, what specific policies it advocates, who his on it and what entities do they represent. Somebody asked me about the Council and I said they are fine I have been reading their publication for four decades, and past members like Kennan, Acheson, Marshal et. al. But now I realize I know nothing about them. If they are running our foreign policy under this administration then we need to know alot more about them. At one time the New York Law Firm Sullivan and Cromwell ran our foreign policy so this is not farfetched. Hillarys casual comment underscore my concern. When I found out that Soros and Bzeziniski were members that peaked my interest and the more I learned about that duo the more concerned I became. Why this guy Haass with the Council would be the amen corner for Obama in this Afghan surge is even more suspicious.
…more power to all of you that can manage through a whole speech of his…so, when does he leave to pick up his ‘Nobel PEACE prize’??? what a colossal joke!
…wonder how the nobel peace council feels about this now…more karma…O throws Nobel Peace Prize under the bus…
more power to all of you that can manage through a whole speech of his…so, when does he leave to pick up his ‘Nobel PEACE prize’??? what a colossal joke!
…wonder how the nobel peace council feels about this now…more karma…O throws Nobel Peace Prize under the bus…
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S: I have never seen a play in the theater of the absurd . . . until now. In light of what happened tonight, they need to retract the peace prize and give him a war prize.
How the f… did it take 3 months to come up with that?
By the way, I was right about the speech, totally useless.
basil9
December 1st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
BARF ALERT!
NBC/Vanity Fair poll asks if a 5th prez should be added to Mount Rushmore and if it should be Squat!
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I hate Vanity and this is why. They did this crap all through the nomination. That article on Hillary must have slipped through the trash bin.Probably heads rolled.
On another note, Chris Matthews should be fired. We need to start a writing campaign.The media is the enenmy camp IMHO
Well its official, i had a look over at the lame dead bot sites and they are all furious at Obama.
This went down like a lead baloon.
Boy is he gonna be in trouble now. The headlines coming out of those aint pretty.
Best comments, and this is from the DUmmies.
“The Best Bush Speech Obama has given”
“Obama is escalating this, wtf?”
“Its official, he’s Bush 2″
“God were we sold a crock of shit with Obama”
Even Rachel Maddow shredded him.
The really left wing just had its eyes well and truly opened and the fallout from this is going to be astronomical.
So how exactly does one pick up a nobel peace prize and send 30’000 soldiers to their deaths to fight in a hellhole.
I mean this is just absolutely incredulous, the Nobel board should strip him of it right now.
Last night the messiah held a sleep in for the cadets and a turn-off for the misguided and and snookered supporters.That Mussolini pose is becoming a caricature for the comics books.Hillary has the patience of Jobe and must hold back the urge to hold her nose when he spouts his self love teleprompter scripts.
More info on Hillarys commitee hearings today and tomorrow.Two long days of hearings will further enhance her talent for knowing and solving world problems.Glad that it follows a day after BO exposed himself to the world wide audience as a mis-begotten fraud and cannot be trusted.
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R. KELLY: Okay. Well, welcome. I think, as you all know, the Secretary is going to accompany the President up to West Point tonight for the speech by the President to talk about his strategy toward Afghanistan. The Secretary will have about seven hours of hearings tomorrow beginning with the Senate Armed Services Committee at 9:00, and then that will be followed in the afternoon by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She’ll be joined by Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen at both of those briefings.
On Thursday, the same three will participate in a hearing at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. That starts at 9:00. There will also be a hearing in the afternoon of the House Armed Services Committee, but Deputy Secretary Lew will participate in that one. Secretary Clinton tomorrow goes to – I’m sorry, not tomorrow, Thursday – goes Thursday to Brussels for meetings on December 4th.
There will be a meeting of the North Atlantic Council at the level of foreign ministers at NATO Headquarters on the agenda. There will also be a meeting of NATO foreign ministers with non-NATO ISAF contributing nations, and a NATO-Russia Council working lunch. She, of course, will also meet with the NATO Secretary General Rasmussen as well as with the newly appointed Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme, and Foreign Minister Steven Vanackere and EU leaders.
check out “bush lite” photo on dailybeast…..quite a beauty!!!!!
Europe is officially out of love with Obama
This article from Der Speigel
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,664753,00.html
Searching in Vain for the Obama Magic
Never before has a speech by President Barack Obama felt as false as his Tuesday address announcing America’s new strategy for Afghanistan. It seemed like a campaign speech combined with Bush rhetoric — and left both dreamers and realists feeling distraught.
One can hardly blame the West Point leadership. The academy commanders did their best to ensure that Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama’s speech would be well-received.
Just minutes before the president took the stage inside Eisenhower Hall, the gathered cadets were asked to respond “enthusiastically” to the speech. But it didn’t help: The soldiers’ reception was cool.
One didn’t have to be a cadet on Tuesday to feel a bit of nausea upon hearing Obama’s speech. It was the least truthful address that he has ever held. He spoke of responsibility, but almost every sentence smelled of party tactics. He demanded sacrifice, but he was unable to say what it was for exactly.
An additional 30,000 US soldiers are to march into Afghanistan — and then they will march right back out again. America is going to war — and from there it will continue ahead to peace. It was the speech of a Nobel War Prize laureate.
Just in Time for the Campaign
For each troop movement, Obama had a number to match. US strength in Afghanistan will be tripled relative to the Bush years, a fact that is sure to impress hawks in America. But just 18 months later, just in time for Obama’s re-election campaign, the horror of war is to end and the draw down will begin. The doves of peace will be let free.
The speech continued in that vein. It was as though Obama had taken one of his old campaign speeches and merged it with a text from the library of ex-President George W. Bush. Extremists kill in the name of Islam, he said, before adding that it is one of the “world’s great religions.” He promised that responsibility for the country’s security would soon be transferred to the government of President Hamid Karzai — a government which he said was “corrupt.” The Taliban is dangerous and growing stronger. But “America will have to show our strength in the way that we end wars,” he added.
It was a dizzying combination of surge and withdrawal, of marching to and fro. The fast pace was reminiscent of plays about the French revolution: Troops enter from the right to loud cannon fire and then they exit to the left. And at the end, the dead are left on stage.
Obama’s Magic No Longer Works
But in this case, the public was more disturbed than entertained. Indeed, one could see the phenomenon in a number of places in recent weeks: Obama’s magic no longer works. The allure of his words has grown weaker.
It is not he himself who has changed, but rather the benchmark used to evaluate him. For a president, the unit of measurement is real life. A leader is seen by citizens through the prism of their lives — their job, their household budget, where they live and suffer. And, in the case of the war on terror, where they sometimes die.
Political dreams and yearnings for the future belong elsewhere. That was where the political charmer Obama was able to successfully capture the imaginations of millions of voters. It is a place where campaigners — particularly those with a talent for oration — are fond of taking refuge. It is also where Obama set up his campaign headquarters, in an enormous tent called “Hope.”
In his speech on America’s new Afghanistan strategy, Obama tried to speak to both places. It was two speeches in one. That is why it felt so false. Both dreamers and realists were left feeling distraught.
The American president doesn’t need any opponents at the moment. He’s already got himself.
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The last line is pure poetry!!
Why are not people outraged about the number 18 months? Why 18 months (it is obvious why)? The brazen politics of that number is breathtaking. To think he thinks he can get away with it, audacity of only a fool.
I get a kick out of all of the old Dims who now say they were mistaken. The young you can caulk up to inexperience at politics, or they are gulible. However, the older experience people that feel betrayed by Obama, I am sorry, you are just plain stxpid, and responsible for your actions. Saying that you could not vote Rep, does not cut it. So you will not give anymore money. So What. His sins are your sins, and YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.
This was a serious election, and you made a BIG mistake that all America will suffer under for a LONG time. Sorry, just cutting off your money donations to the Dims really does not cut it.
Got a call from the Dims last night, and I got to do my song and dance about how they blew it when they stole the Primary from HRC. I always feel good after I am able to blast them with my opinion. That is the only reason I stay register in that Party. I NEVER WANT THEM TO FORGET WHAT THEY DID.
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wbboei
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 am
Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin today that US President Barack Obama has issued orders to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to “begin immediately” increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.”
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This is payback for what Soros did to Russia. I think this is KGB propaganda. Putin respects Hillary but has no use for the buffoon Obama. And he knows that the American People are losing their faith in him. This rumor would widen and deepen the schism. The other possibility is it is true.
Remember the lecture Putin gave him and the way nobody would shake his hand in the receiving line. I guarantee you Putin knows Obama is a Soros puppet, and he remembers only too well what Soros, Bzezinsky, Sachs et al did to Russia, Georgia and Ukraine. I hate to sound like a broken record, but Obamas intimate relationship with Soros anathema to Putin. That much is certain.
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Dreams/propaganda die in the face of reality. Payback for Obama being a Soros puppet has nothing to do with their statement. Strange analogy when the facts point to their statement of reality as a final conclusion to Obama’s actions. which are-
Obama isn’t concerned about his failing approval rating or re-election.(red flag). The Dem Congress is unconcerned about low approval ratings or re-election (Red Flag). Obama hasn’t rescinded his declared State of Emergency due to the Swine Flu Epidemic (that never happened)(Red Flag) FEMA Rules state: “During a State of Emergency, ALL ELECTIONS ARE SUSPENDED INDEFINATEY”. Obama hasn’t lifted a finger to revive the economy or create jobs after a year in office. (Red Flag) The country continues to deteriorate with no relief in sight. Just more of Obama’s giveaways of Taxpayer money to causes other than our own creating unprecedented resentment from a public fed up and angry at Obama’s outright unrequited provocative behavior.
wbb, I almost wish your dream scenario of propaganda as payback were true. But the facts as they lay, as I’m sure you would agree, loom large in the face of our reality. As Rham always says: “Never let a CRISIS go to waste.”
How much more would it take after Obama’s speech last night and after the Anti-War Rally in DC Dec 12 to make Civil-War breakout in this country as the Russians predicted? A spark coming from any direction would do it.
Here is a path Obama could have adopted and in the process kept his campaign promise of a non-war-monger. He could have started withdrawing the forces from Iraq and Afghanistan and promised them aid with the condition that they would clean up their acts. If they don’t and let Al-Queda, Taliban and other terrorist groups fester on their land, they would go the way of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Bring the rest of the sane countries and govts together for the mission of eradicating terrorism — ostracize and punish the bad state players who harbor terrorists (I think I have to like GWB’s you’re with us or with them) and do not pay attention to their current blackmail strategies (like Pakistan blackmailing the rest of the world with their nukes. Call their bluff and see if they let their govt fall apart and disintegrate. Chances are that it won’t happen.)
One more thing, Pakistan certainly has resources to go after Al-Queda and Taliban if they wanted to (which is what Hillary daringly pointed out in her last trip there.) I really wish someone would get in the face of these bullies and threaten them with dire consequences if they don’t clean up their act.
Kay
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
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Yes! At last!
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How on earth did he come up with the “18 month” figure? Are the soldiers supposed to work themselves to the bone…do or die…in order to achieve this? As moononpluto stated yesterday, Afghanistan is a no-win situation. How much blood does this guy want on his hands?
He would have been better off pulling them all out if he was going to set such a short time limit.
He was probably waitin to make sure he won the nobel peace prize before sending in more troops.
Confloyd, you’re damn right? All that dithering was a political calculation. He would have delayed it even further if he could, like doing this after getting his prize later this month. Now Favreau has to work doubly hard to make sense.
oops, unintended ? mark. There is no question Confloyd is right.
Kay
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
“The American president doesn’t need any opponents at the moment. He’s already got himself.”
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Exactly why his speech was a non-starter to the cadets who although were primed beforehand to respond enthusiastically to his speech shut out his words from their consciousness . It would also help if we knew for sure if Obama isn’t a Muslim or Muslim sympathizer. As Bin Laden said in a video, the US will be destroyed from within. His prescient words daily come closer to the reality we are facing. The combination of an undercover Muslim president subverting the richest country in the world to austerity and strife would eventually be enough to trigger a Civil-War changing our culture and landscape for years to come.
After the Fort Hood massacre and last night’s address to the WP Cadets, how much more would it take for the SS or the military to Frog-March the fraud down the front steps of our WH preempting the deceiver in Chief from completely destroying our country?
I am so enjoying the outright depression by the commentators over on Taylor Marsh. Oh, how I enjoy all the crying, although there is still one hateful commentator over there. We tried to tell them he didn’t know what he was doing. Well, at least we have Hillary working her ass off to keep things going right, for that we all can be greatfull, the kool-aid drinkers have nothing to be happy about. Their messiah has fallen from grace and most still hate the war-monger Hillary.
Has Chris Mathews apologized yet???
US ‘commitment’ to Afghanistan, Pakistan: Clinton
WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday pledged an “enduring” commitment to Afghanistan and Pakistan, adding Washington will also significantly expand support to Pakistan.
“It should be clear to everyone that — unlike the past — the United States and our allies and partners have an enduring commitment to Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the region,” Clinton told US lawmakers.
She added: “We will significantly expand support intended for Pakistan to develop the potential of their people.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i4vC2yM0S26AVrVN51wDPNNpSTmw
uh, oh.. lunch bribe was lost on Friedman:
This I Believe — Let me start with the bottom line and then tell you how I got there: I can’t agree with President Obama’s decision to escalate in Afghanistan. I’d prefer a minimalist approach, working with tribal leaders the way we did to overthrow the Taliban regime in the first place.
JanH says:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 am
Kay
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
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Yes! At last!
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How on earth did he come up with the “18 month” figure? Are the soldiers supposed to work themselves to the bone…do or die…in order to achieve this? As moononpluto stated yesterday, Afghanistan is a no-win situation. How much blood does this guy want on his hands?
He would have been better off pulling them all out if he was going to set such a short time limit.
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Jan…fate is going to catch up with O…call it karma, call it justice…call it the truth winning out…the scene is being set…this man’s ‘character’ is becoming obvious to all on all sides…a man with no honor to anyone, including his cold hearted self…
Hillary on the hot seat: Clinton answers for Obama’s Afghanistan surge at Senate committee
BY Richard Sisk
Wednesday, December 2nd 2009,
Secretary Hillary Clinton answers questions from the Senate Armed Services Committee on Obama’s announced Afghanistan surge.
WASHINGTON — Citing her own experiences on 9/11, Secretary of State Clinton Wednesday pleaded with doubting Senate Democrats to back President Obama’s Afghan troop surge.
“Simply put, among a range of difficult choices, this is the best way to protect our nation now and in the future,” Clinton told the Senate Armed Services Committee on which she served as New York’s junior senator.
The heavy lift Clinton had in selling the plan to put another 30,000 troops into Afghanistan by this summer became evident before Clinton could sit down at the witness table.
An anti-war protester followed Clinton into the room and said politely: “Hillary, c’mon, you know better than this.”
Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Armed Services Committee, then told Clinton that Obama had gotten it backwards on the surge — thousands of Afghan troops should be trained to take the field before U.S. surge troops arrive, and not the other way around, Levin said.
The problem in Afghanistan, Levin said, “is not a shortage of American combat troops, it’s a shortage of Afghan troops.”
Levin’s skepticism on the surge echoed the doubts expressed by scores of Senate and House Democrats that could pose a problem when Obama seeks funding for the surge in the range of $30- to 40 billion. Republicans have generally supported the boost in troop numbers.
But Clinton, who was joined at the hearing by Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the Joint Chiefs chairman, said the surge was vital in reversing the recent gains made by Al Qaeda and the Taliban, and in preventing attempts to plot another 9/11.
“I witnessed the tragic consequences in the lives of thousands of innocent families” in New York City, Clinton said, “and the damage done to our economy and our sense of security. So I feel a personal responsibility to help protect our nation from such violence.”
Gates said the surge in Afghanistan would encourage Pakistan to hit harder at its own terrorist threat. “We know the Pakistan Taliban operate in collusion with both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Al Qaeda,” Gates said.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the ranking Republican on the committee, strongly supported the surge while carping about Obama’s decision to start pulling back the surge troops in July 2001.
“I think it deserves the support of all Americans,” McCain said of the surge, but “the President was wrong to signal our intent to start leaving Afghanistan on an arbitrary date.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/12/02/2009-12-02_secretaries_hillary_clinton_and__.html
Janh, I imagine that winning the nobel peace price was something Obama wanted, I believe it is a family tradition, I mean didn’t Obama’s real father win one also???
Excuse me, I meant pm317.
Sisk is an idiot.
First, this pullback date is not July 2001. Someone needs to tell this loon that was the first year of the bush presidency. And it was before 9/11. But that is what you get from a newspaper that is so bad that it employs Michael Goodwin and is owned by a man who has little regard for the strategic interests of Israel.
Second, it is not carping to argue against telegraphing your timetable for retreat to the enemy. It is unsound strategy on all levels to do this. Even if you intend to withdraw or end the surge that quickly why on earth would you communicate that to the enemy. It is the mark of a fool. Carping?
The bet here is that we can clean out the Taliban and get al Quaeda in 18 months. If that is the case this is going to be very intense. We will take casualties. And when we have achieved military victory things we may lose it on the political front, because there is no nation there we will have to build one. But as Obama would be first to tell you call it anything you like please do not call it nation building.
The political risk here is that they do find Osama. Let us hope he disappears and is never heard from again. No good would come from his high profile death at this point. It would incite Muslim extremists around the world, would rekindle the tragedy of those who lost loved ones in 9/11 and the jackass in the White House will claim credit.
This surge will spill over into Pakistan, just as in Viet Nam we were force to go into Laos to destroy enemy bases.
Has anyone else heard that the man that shot those 4 police officers dead took the muslim faith while in prison in Arkansas.
Here is a site that is praising the death of the 4 white officers in Seattle.
h t t p : / / blackmalefelon.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/adorned-with-virgins-jewelry-crowned-seattle-bow-martyr-against-white-terrorist-police-maurice-clemmons/
Here is a path Obama could have adopted and in the process kept his campaign promise of a non-war-monger. He could have started withdrawing the forces from Iraq and Afghanistan and promised them aid with the condition that they would clean up their acts. If they don’t and let Al-Queda, Taliban and other terrorist groups fester on their land, they would go the way of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Bring the rest of the sane countries and govts together for the mission of eradicating terrorism — ostracize and punish the bad state players who harbor terrorists (I think I have to like GWB’s you’re with us or with them) and do not pay attention to their current blackmail strategies (like Pakistan blackmailing the rest of the world with their nukes. Call their bluff and see if they let their govt fall apart and disintegrate. Chances are that it won’t happen.)
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At least he did not do that. No I think this is the least worst approach. A big piece of it will be diplomacy and aid. I am quite sure Hillary supports this policy. I think she is right. I think this was force fed to Obama. I think the 18 month cap was a mistake. What interests me is that coward Obama reads a speech and Hillary does the heavy lifting. I cannot find polite words to describe the contempt I have for Levin. I hope he gets his head handed to him the next time he runs. He is repulsive to look at and even worse to listen to.
Levin reminds me of an old malignant toad with reader glasses on his nose.
Clinton, Gates And Mullen Outline Obama’s Afghanistan Strategy To Senate
12/2/2009
Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Admiral Michael Mullen discussed the strategy for the war in Afghanistan outlined by President Barack Obama Tuesday night.
In his opening statement, Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., said that the U.S. “has important security interests in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region.” He added, “Instability in Afghanistan, or the return of the Taliban to power, would not only provide fertile ground for Al Qaeda and other extremists to regroup and renew plots against the United States and its allies, but it would also threaten the stability of neighboring Pakistan, a nuclear-armed country.” Levin said that he agreed with Obama’s call for the training and rapid growth of the Afghanistan National Security Forces, his call for more NATO involvement in Afghanistan, and his call for more active involvement of the Afghanistan government in preparing it to function on its own.
While ranking member Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., said he agrees with Obama’s decision to send 30,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan, he said he does not agree with the decision to establish a timeline of about 18 months before he begins withdrawing those troops. “What I do not support, and what concerns me greatly, is the president’s decision to set an arbitrary date to begin withdrawing U.S. forces from Afghanistan,” McCain said. He added, “A date for withdrawal sends exactly the wrong message to both our friends and our enemies – in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the entire region – all of whom currently doubt whether America is committed to winning this war.” McCain argued that setting a withdrawal date “only emboldens Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, while dispiriting our Afghan partners and making it less likely that they will risk their lives to take our side in this fight.”
In her testimony, Secretary Clinton said that, as part of its strategy in Afghanistan, the U.S. would work with the Afghan and Pakistani governments to “eliminate safe havens for those plotting attacks against us, our allies, and our interests.” She also said the U.S. would “help to stabilize a region that is fundamental to our national security.”
Additionally, Clinton stated the U.S. would “develop a long-term, sustainable relationship with Afghanistan and Pakistan so that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past.”
In addressing the limited time the extra U.S. troops will be in Afghanistan, Clinton said, “The duration of our military presence will be limited, but our civilian commitment must continue even as our troops begin to come home.” She further emphasized that the U.S. “will help by working with our Afghan partners to strengthen institutions at every level of Afghan society so that we don’t leave chaos behind when our combat troops begin to depart.”
Clinton said the U.S. plans to triple the number of civilian positions in Afghanistan to 974 by early next year.
Finally, she argued that a “strong, stable, democratic Pakistan” will be key to the U.S. in helping to maintain stability in both Afghanistan and the entire region.
Secretary Gates also emphasized the importance of Pakistan to the war in Afghanistan in his testimony, stating, “Giving extremists breathing room in Pakistan led to the resurgence of the Taliban and more coordinated, sophisticated attacks in Afghanistan.” He said that, in the past year, “the Pakistan Taliban…has become a real threat to Pakistan’s own domestic peace and stability, carrying out – with Al Qaeda’s help – escalating bombing attacks throughout the country.” Gates said the U.S. is well aware that “the Pakistan Taliban operate in collusion with both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Al Qaeda.” “A stable security situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan – one that is sustainable over the long term by their governments – is vital to our national security,” Gates added. He indicated that the U.S. strategy for the region would involve reversing Taliban momentum through sustained military action by the U.S., its allies and the Afghans themselves.
Further, Gates said the U.S. would work to deny the Taliban access to and control of key population and production centers and lines of communication.
The U.S. will also disrupt the Taliban outside secured areas and prevent Al Qaeda from regaining sanctuary in Afghanistan, which he said would help degrade Taliban to levels manageable by the Afghan National Security Forces.
Gates said another goal would be increasing the size and capability of the ANSF and employing other local forces selectively to begin transitioning security responsibility to the Afghan government within the roughly 18 months the troops surge will be in place.
Admiral Mullen said in his testimony that one of the major goals for the U.S. in Afghanistan is to “deny al Qaeda safe haven and the Afghan-Taliban the ability to overthrow the duly elected Afghan government.” “To achieve this refined strategic aim,” Mullen added, “we must continue to deny al Qaeda any Afghanistan toe-hold, reverse the momentum of the Taliban insurgency, and build sufficient Afghan government and security capacity to eventually defeat the insurgent threat.” He argued that Obama is committed to rapidly send the 30,000 extra troops “to get as much force into the fight as fast as General (Stanley) McChrystal can absorb it.” Doing this, Mullen argued, will allow Generals McChrystal and David Petraeus to “plan for cohesive logistics and transportation support over the course of the coming year.” Mullen also emphasized that he expects U.S. forces in Afghanistan to make “significant headway in the next 18-24 months.”
http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=1145809
Mrs. Smith–you realize of course that I did not rule out that possibility. All I am saying is that I need more evidence. Absent that I think it is more probable than not that it is propaganda or contingency planning. We shall see.
Mrs.Smith/Wbboei, the site I just posted shows exactly how this civil war will begin. I think its real and imminent. When more people lose their jobs they are going to blame the President and it won’t be pretty. This is also exactly what Soros and his crew want, civil war, high umemployment and food shortages to get what they want. I do believe Mrs. Smith’s post last evening.
note: This post was written before I read confloyd’s post- thanks..
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wbboei
December 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Mrs. Smith–you realize of course that I did not rule out that possibility. All I am saying is that I need more evidence. Absent that I think it is more probable than not that it is propaganda or contingency planning. We shall see.
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wbb, would you disagree these are incontrovertable facts:
“Obama isn’t concerned about his failing approval rating or re-election.(red flag). The Dem Congress is unconcerned about low approval ratings or re-election (Red Flag). Obama hasn’t rescinded his declared State of Emergency due to the Swine Flu Epidemic (that never happened)(Red Flag) FEMA Rules state: “During a State of Emergency, ALL ELECTIONS ARE SUSPENDED INDEFINATEY”. Obama hasn’t lifted a finger to revive the economy or create jobs after a year in office. (Red Flag) The country continues to deteriorate with no relief in sight. Just more of Obama’s giveaways of Taxpayer money to causes other than our own creating unprecedented resentment from a public fed up and angry at Obama’s outright unrequited provocative behavior.”
I need more evidence your propaganda theory can hold up to reality that Putin would be so easily satisfied throwing pebbles at George Soros under the guise of an outbreak of Civil War in the US in retribution for his puppetmaster status of Obama. When Soros has been a pain in his backside for the last 20yrs and if anything Civil War would be the pinnacle of Soros’ plan realized leaving him with clean hands and Obama in charge. I fail to see the logic in your argument unless you can convince me otherwise.
Mrs. Smith,
You present a very frightening outlook, but one that makes more and more sense. I can’t believe how much has changed for the worse in so short a time.
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confloyd
December 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Mrs.Smith/Wbboei, the site I just posted shows exactly how this civil war will begin. I think its real and imminent. When more people lose their jobs they are going to blame the President and it won’t be pretty. This is also exactly what Soros and his crew want, civil war, high umemployment and food shortages to get what they want. I do believe Mrs. Smith’s post last evening.
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confloyd, which site are you referring to? The AA site?
wbboei, Hillary may be on board with this policy but I am beginning to think that this is all wrong and the speech last night and the US language is hurting the self-esteem (if they have any) of countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan — imagine being a Zardari or a Karzai under the conditions (of occupancy) from the US. It is like occupying your poor and hapless neighbor’s house and demanding him to get rid of his crazy uncle because the uncle throws rocks/grenades at your house. How about fortifying your house and get a neighborhood watch and pay some money to your poor neighbor to get help for his uncle? And if he didn’t do that nuke his house! No, not the last part but may be call police (in my analogy, get the world community to support) to make him behave.
Here are two links you may enjoy reading:
powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/12/deadly-liar-and-manipulator.html
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obamas-af-pak-whack-bushs-iraq
Admin, good thing, I notice that when I link with a www dot something, the link is auto-converted (without getting into moderation. Let me see if it works with the other link:
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/12/deadly-liar-and-manipulator.html
If anyone were going to suspend elections they’d suspend the 2012 election, not midterms.
All this civil war thing is too far fetched. There is enough bad stuff without going hyper with those, IMHO. If we do, we are only empowering Obama and his supporters and even people in the middle to easily negate and dismiss our rational arguments. Even in a dysfunctional democracy like that of India when Indira Gandhi went too far with her Emergency rule in the 70s, people brought back sanity quite quickly. At some level we have to have faith in the genius of the American democracy.
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JanH
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Mrs. Smith,
You present a very frightening outlook, but one that makes more and more sense. I can’t believe how much has changed for the worse in so short a time.
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You can read everywhere, gun sales are up in the US- People are feeling the
hopelessness of Obama’s promises never coming to fruition and they are scared. Even the Blacks are frightened because they have received no help at all and Obama has used them for his own political gain.
People are taking the stand, it’s ‘every man for themselves’ warehousing food, water and protection rather than waiting any longer for Obama to help them. I feel sorry for the people who have already lost their homes and their jobs who are left indigent and vulnerable because of Obama’s grand bamboozlement scheme.
What are the Canadians saying abut his speech last night. There is a good assessment at Truthdig with an update to the Afghan escalation and Kucinich is speaking out on audio how the Afghan escalation is a mistake.
h… w… truthdig.com/report/item/here_we_go_again_20091202/
pm317,
Where was the “genius of the American democracy” in the last election?
pm317
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
You’ll have to read wbb’s brilliant 12 chapter treatise on Soros here:
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/blockbuster-obama%e2%80%99s-godfather/
Wbb and I may disagree on minor points due to informational interpretation but on major points we wholeheartedly agree, SOROS IS DETERMINED TO DESTROY AMERICA. HE SAID SO IN HIS OWN WORDS. A CIVIL WAR in this country would be the means to his accomplishing his goal.
Mrs. Smith,
Canadians are somewhat confused by his deadline. Canada has been in Afghanistan since 2001 and the prime minister has repeatedly stated that he will not extend the mission beyond 2011.
There is some speculation as to whether obama chose the same date because of this, but mostly it’s that he tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing nobody.
JanH, well, we don’t like what happened but it was still democracy, people voted in fair elections and majority accepted the outcome. What happened within the Dem party is a party problem and not an American democracy problem. The genius I am referring to is not about electing the best and the brightest which is subjective but having a process that works and it did work (however much we don’t like the outcome). The best lines I have read about democracy are these:
Politics is heartless, and there is no place to be sentimental. You cannot personalise a situation in a democracy.
The person who said it is Nehru’s nephew who is a politician and elected parliamentary member in India. I bet Hillary knows this all too well which is why she can function as well as she can with the hand she is dealt with.
pm317,
fair enough.
Not surprising Confloyd if true..Yet, once again, Obama in front of our military had to defend his Muslim brothers and sisters….
JanH
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Mrs. Smith,
Canadians are somewhat confused by his deadline. Canada has been in Afghanistan since 2001 and the prime minister has repeatedly stated that he will not extend the mission beyond 2011.
There is some speculation as to whether obama chose the same date because of this, but mostly it’s that he tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing nobody.
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Ten years is a fair benchmark for success or failure. Kucinich makes a valid point in his audio statement, saying: It takes almost a year to withdraw troops safely from any battlefield and he wonders what can be accomplished in a mere 6 mos if troops are to be withdrawn in 18 mos.
I did not know the Canadians had a definitive timeline. Thanks for the info.
Gibbs was already qualifying the 18 months, paraphrasing him, it is about handing control over to Afghans and not necessarily withdrawing in 18 months.. Whatever.
Gibbs was already qualifying the 18 months, paraphrasing him, it is about handing control over to Afghans and not necessarily withdrawing in 18 months.. Whatever.
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He says at paragraph 13 of his speech:
This review is now complete. And as Commander-in-Chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. These are the resources that we need to seize the initiative, while building the Afghan capacity that can allow for a responsible transition of our forces out of Afghanistan.
Translation: he said the troops would begin to come home after 18 months. Curly is lying through his teeth if he claims that Obama said the 18 month deadline was about turning over control and not necessarily withdrawing in 18 months. The plain meaning of the phase our troops will begin to come home in eighteen months is that we will begin to withdraw in 18 months. I am quite sure that is how al Quaeda read it.
These guys are rank amateurs. They cannot even get the message straight.
well this quote from Reuters says it all really from a poor afghan boy.
KABUL (Reuters) – Thirty thousand more U.S. troops for Afghanistan? Esmatullah only shrugged.
“Even if they bring the whole of America, they won’t be able to stabilize Afghanistan,” said the young construction worker out on a Kabul street corner on Wednesday morning. “Only Afghans understand our traditions, geography and way of life.”
and there you have it in a nutshell
but you see, begin to withdraw, does than mean withdrawn within a month, within a year, 5 years, 10 years.
You can withdraw 1000 soldiers a month over 100 months and still call it a withdrawal.
The plot thickens…
Emails show White House crashers lobbied hard for invite
(AFP) – 2 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Copies of emails exchanged between a couple who crashed a White House dinner and a Pentagon official show the pair lobbied hard for an invite, but apparently showed up to the event without one. The emails obtained by ABC News show Tareq Salahi and his wife Michaele sought an invite to a state dinner honoring Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, but also suggest they showed up without receiving one.
“It worked out at the end,” he wrote in an email to Michelle Jones, a Pentagon official who had sought to get the couple an invitation. “We ended up going to the gate to check in at 6.30 pm to just check, in case it got approved since we didn’t know, and our name was indeed on the list!” the email from Tareq Salahi reads.
The White House has denied that the Salahis were authorized to attend any part of President Barack Obama’s first state dinner, and the Secret Service is investigating how the couple was able to meet and be photographed with dozens of high-profile guests, including the president.
Just hours before the state dinner Jones, a special assistant to the secretary of defense White House liaison, wrote that she was still working to get invites for the Virginia socialite couple. A day earlier, she warned: “I still haven’t given up, but it doesn’t seem likely.”
The emails show the Salahis pushed hard for an invitation to the glamorous event, attended by some of the country’s top politicians and celebrities.
In one email, dated November 23, Tareq Salahi suggests that there should be room for him and his wife. “By the way — I know for a fact these persons are unable to attend the state dinner and the reception portion,” he wrote, listing among others Democratic Senator Harry Reid and his wife, who he said “have gone home early for Thanksgiving.”
The emails were reportedly released by lawyers for the Salahis, and come after the White House released a statement from Jones denying she had procured tickets for the couple. “Even though I informed them of this, they decided to come,” the statement said.
The email exchange appears to back her version of events.
In a message after the dinner, Tareq Salahi references a voicemail from Jones he says he was unable to access earlier in the day. “I just got you (sic) message now after driving back out. But obviously it worked out in the end,” he writes.
The incident has provoked White House and congressional fury, with lawmakers demanding to know how the pair were able to enter the presidential residence without permission.
The House of Representatives Homeland Security committee has said they will hold a hearing on the security lapse, during which they are expected to seek testimony from both the Salahis and the Secret Service.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jxbUuYTsoiE0K6upbYGn2I6xweTA
Mrs.Smith, Yes, its a black site and I have posted upstream @ 1:11.
I agree there will be a civil war and Soros and his puppet are making sure of it. We all know cap and trade is going to fail, so they had to devise another plan to bankrupt us which is the Afghan War. Everything has to be airlifted in, so it will be more expensive than Iraq. Thats how you might say theres more than one way to skin a cat. The project has not changed. I am so worried about the Palestinian running for governor of Texas. If he gets in the super highway will be a done deal.
This Salihi thing is a smoke screen. I remember someone saying that they feed the news to the media instead of the media looking and generating a story. This is what they do, they make a mountain out of a mole hill to keep people from looking very deep at what is really going on.
Are they televising the Senate hearing on the new Afgan policy?? I have looked at C-span and did not see it. I love to see Hillary stick to those smart ass young rethugs. She does it so elloquently.
NEW ARTICLE IS UP.
Wow! Re: Press conference in Cambridge – I never realized what a failure that was – and that only tells me how effectively the media covers for him. We all heard about the genius of the beer summit, but no one said a word about the failure to have the vote before recess. Thanks for setting things straight for me.