Turkeys For Thanksgiving

According to Ben Franklin the turkey is a “respectable” bird. We’ll ignore the sage Dr. Franklin to take note of some people “turkeys”.

We won’t focus on Barack Obama who has shattered the “Spending Record For First-Year” boobery and who was caught “clutching” a GQ magazine “featuring himself”.

There are a lot of “turkeys” out there to guffaw at:

First up is Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post. In a laughable attempt to defend Obama, Marcus sinks him. Somehow, Marcus does not remember Obama’s oft repeated words/promises not to raise taxes on the poor or middle class. Marcus, to defend Obama, unwittingly calls him a liar by calling the entire health care mandate “a tax”:

Which brings us to the alternative source of congressional authority, the “Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises.”

The individual mandate is to be administered through the tax code: On their forms, taxpayers will have to submit evidence of adequate insurance or, unless they qualify for a hardship exemption, pay a penalty.

Obama lovers are busy defending Obama against the “tax and spend” line of attack. Obama lover Ruth Marcus just shouted “tax and spend Obama” – and she thought she was defending Obama. Ruth Marcus is a turkey today.

The DailyKooks are turkeys too. One of Obama’s strongest supporters amongst the Kooks is weeping.

But, it increasingly seems that you have decided that your “change” will be confined to eliminating the strangle hold that the Bush White House exercised over all branches of government.

You have stood back and let the bought and paid for Senate devise legislation that effects no real change in the health care system except around the edges.

You have allowed the financial industry to continue the very practices that drove the economy into chaos. You have filled your Cabinet with the very people who were instrumental in laying the ground work for the disaster, and given them free hand to prop up and protect the banks with no increase in regulation or protection for the system.

You allow the struggling Harry Reid to try to whip the Joe Liberman’s and Ben Nelson’s into line without any public effort to back him up.

Now, it looks as though you are going to accept the advise of General McCrystal, the man instrumental in the Pat Tillman cover up, to dictate Afghanistan policy.

Nothing is changing except the Disaster of the Day.

Yes, yes. I know that you have restored the image of America around the world. But really, Sir, was that going to be so hard after 8 years of Bush/Cheney? Just getting them out of office was going to spread a warm fuzzy feeling across the planet. Anyone could have done that.

I know it’s popular for those of us who supported you to list the many small changes you have shepherded. But in the big things, Sir, health care, climate change, using the stimulus package to improve infrastructure and generate jobs, forestall the foreclosure crisis, and address renewable energy, you have done little.

Where are those fine rhetorical skills, now? Why are you not devoting a great deal more time to explaining to us what you are doing. Transparency has become the cash word, of late. But, little real transparency can occur without a careful and full disclosure of not only high sounding phrases of “hope” for the future, but of a discussion of the issues, led by you.

I’m an old woman, Mr. President. And, after decades of disappointment, and frustration at the willful greed and blatant ignorance of the Beltway Bovines, I dared to think that you might actually offer leadership. Leadership by drafting the rough outlines of what you wanted in legislation rather than letting the high school clique that inhabits Capitol Hill play their mindless games while we, out here, fall over a cliff. Leadership in a little serious arm twisting to get the Democrats to fall in line. Leadership in by passing the mindset of the military and getting us out of Iraq and Afganistan.

Instead, Sir, I see the same old game, played in the same old way, with only the faces changing.

Age, it is clear, does not always translate into wisdom. Instead of leading the young into the wisdom of experience, that “diarist” enabled the flim-flam of the Chicago con. Hillary Clinton told the truth and did not deceive, but was lambasted by the Kooks.

The comments in that “diary” alone are filled with weeping and gnashing of teeth, along with more excuses for the false prophet from Corrupt Chicago.

One of the major defenses, repeated over and over, is the ‘we’ve never gotten this far before’ on health care. Larry O’Donnell, of late one of the biggest of Obama enablers, exposes the falseness of that defense. O’Donnell also unwittingly devastates the defunct Ted Kennedy for his role in the failure of true health care reform when Hillary was in charge. Here’s O’Donnell speaking in non-turkey:

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Ted Kennedy loaded the Hillary health care effort with amendments he himself was forced to vote against and reject on the Senate floor. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton with less votes available to them bought down the debt and eliminated the deficit. Congress did not dare defy Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton with 43 Republican senators got as far as the Senate floor. So much for “never before” arguments. “Never before” – except in 1994.

Even turkey Politico mocks and dents the “never before”, “unprecedented” argument.

The Obama White House is addicted to the “unprecedented.”

Perhaps it was a sign when President Barack Obama sat down in January to record his first weekly address and announced: “We begin this year and this administration in the midst of an unprecedented crisis that calls for unprecedented action.”

What has followed is declaration after declaration of “unprecedented” milestones. Some of them are legitimate firsts, like the president’s online town hall at the White House in May.

But others the president wins merely on a technicality, and several clearly already have precedent.

“Unprecedented” corruption and flim-flammery is what is going on. As bad as the Kooks, Josh Marshall’s piano players in the whorehouse are turkeys too.

I do not know a single person who is not disappointed by Obama’s first year in office. And the people I know represent Obama’s base. Pretty much all of them supported him in the primaries. They worked like dogs during the general. And they took buses, cars and planes to be at his inauguration.

Today much of their enthusiasm is gone.

And the reason for their disappointment is that they wanted a fighter, someone who would implement campaign promises (at least the ones a President can do unilaterally like gays in the military) and challenge the right’s lies. Instead they have a conciliator.

They wanted a “fighter”? Nonsense, they wanted a pet who would perform for them. We know who the fighter is – Hillary Clinton.

While the Kooks, former peaceniks who attacked “war-monger Hillary” today attack anyone who is against the Afghanistan “surge” (months in the consideration with great ostentation) some Dud turkeys are upset over landmines. Oh how they berated Hillary on the landmine issue! Now the Duds are weepy.

The Obama Administration announced late today that it will not sign an international convention banning land mines but would send observers to a review conference on the treaty in Cartagena, Colombia. State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said Tuesday that the Administration recently completed a review and had decided not to change the Bush-era policy.

Former Obama turkeys are now grousing. The old “Hope” poster is now on T-shirts in a tattered, faded version with the tagline “Hope Is Fading Fast“. Turkeys!

The former Obama turkeys, strung out on Hopium now call him “Emperor Obama” and list the many ways Obama is the Third Bush Term:

The World’s Got Problems has been careful to document the many ways in which the Obama administration has maintained continuity with its disgraced predecessor.

We told them Hillary is a fighter (in August 2007!). We told them Obama is the Third Bush Term. Now reality hits these turkeys like the ax on Thanksgiving Turkeys.

Hillary hater and Obama lover Howard Dean is now clucking at the Huff n’ Puff Obama enabler website in pessimistic clucks:

One of the leading progressive champions of health care reform is pessimistic about the state of the debate in the Senate, saying he sees virtually no path to passing strong legislation and predicting potential congressional losses for Democrats as a consequence.

Former DNC Chair Howard Dean told the Huffington Post on Monday that Senate Democratic leadership was “in deep trouble” on health care, even after Majority Leader Harry Reid cobbled together over the weekend the 60 votes needed to get legislation to the floor. The problem was as much about politics as policy.

“I think if you passed the Senate bill tomorrow it would be OK. But then the problem is they don’t have any defense for their members in 2010,” Dean said, noting that the public option would not become operational until 2014. “On the other hand, if they drop the public option [to placate moderate members], I think they lose seats.”

“So this is really tough. I didn’t anticipate being in this position. I thought it would pass. Maybe Harry has some magic up his sleeve. But I don’t see how he gets those four votes [Sens. Joseph Lieberman (Conn.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.)] without compromising the bill,” Dean concluded. [snip]

“If you have members refusing to vote for Reid on procedural issues you will have a revolt in the party,” Dean said. “What is the point of having a 60-vote margin? This is going to be death for the [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee] and the [Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee]. Why would anyone donate to them if they’re supporting candidates who defeat the Democratic agenda?”

There are a lot of things you did not anticipate Howard. We’ve always known, and after George W. everyone should have known: If you elect a boob, expect boobery. Howard is not a duck – he’s a turkey.

Across the ocean, other turkeys are squawking:

Bob Ainsworth, the defence secretary, has blamed Barack Obama and the United States for the decline in British public support for the war in Afghanistan.

Time for an Obama speech in Great Britain we suppose.

The Israel haters, who now refer to Israel as “Israel-Palestine” finally realize Obama is a chump. A chump outwitted easily by wily Netanyahu.

In Israel-Palestine, Obama underestimated the damage of the past decade and has been outmaneuvered by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

We suppose those years at the age of 6 in Indonesia will now cease to be touted as “experience” and “world wise” know-how.

And African-Americans who turned their backs on a true life-long friend, who attacked the many strong Hillary supporters as race traitors? We said they would be the most hurt. Now the hurt is here and no amount of “hope” will change the hurt to happiness:

Joblessness for 16-to-24-year-old black men has reached Great Depression proportions — 34.5 percent in October, more than three times the rate for the general U.S. population. And last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that unemployment in the District, home to many young black men, rose to 11.9 percent from 11.4 percent, even as it stayed relatively stable in Virginia and Maryland. [snip]

The jobless rate for young black men and women is 30.5 percent. [snip]

Young black women have an unemployment rate of 26.5 percent, while the rate for all 16-to-24-year-old women is 15.4 percent.

Hopium is not nutritious. Hope is not a strategy. Hope does not feed the hungry nor bring the dignity of work to the unemployed. The young are not feeling the hope either:

The economy’s seismic shift has been an equal-opportunity offender, hurting various racial and ethnic groups, economic classes, ages, and white- and blue-collar job categories. Nevertheless, 16-to-24-year-olds face heavier losses, with a 19.1 percent unemployment rate, about nine points higher than the national average for the general population.

Their rate of employment in October was 44.9 percent, the lowest level in 61 years of record keeping, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Employment for men in their 20s and early 30s is at its lowest level since the Great Depression, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies.

Unemployment among young people is particularly troubling, economists say, because the consequences can be long-lasting. This might be the first generation that does not keep up with its parents’ standard of living. Jobless teens are more likely to be jobless twenty-somethings. Once forced onto the sidelines, they likely will not catch up financially for many years. That is the case even for young people of all ethnic groups who graduate from college.

Hey, dudes, you could have had Hillary – and jobs – and health care. Hillary learned from mistakes and kept on going – making things better for all Americans.

But not to worry, dudes. Obama is having a grand old time with grand parties in the White House. Obama’s reflected glory will heat your homes. Obama getting the top job is worth you losing your jobs – for a long time. Obama has health care, dudes, so you don’t. But why worry – be hopeful and happy for Obama. Suffer in silence.

The feathers are flying in Obama land. The ax is landing on a lot of turkeys.


125 thoughts on “Turkeys For Thanksgiving

  1. Good Old Howard Dean. You were a big part of making this mess, and now you complain, because you did not know it would turn out this way. I guess that goes to show you, a Doctor who becomes a politician really does not know what a good experienced politican is. If you did, you would have supported HRC.

    Suffer in Silence

  2. To all those DIM Turkeys….

    YOU GO GET STUFFED into thin air as far as I am concerned!!!!

    your woes make me laugh!!!!

  3. And let us not forget the grand poobah turkey of them all: nancy pelosi.

    Great article, Admin.

    And as far as “Israel-Palestine” goes, what a bunch of garbage. They can trash, name-change, and rewrite history anyway they want, but Israel will always shine on its own.

  4. Netanyahu continues to be wily (the Palestinian “leadership” will soon start screaming “no”:


    Special Envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell will brief the press today, as reports say Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to announce a 10-month freeze on new construction of Jewish settlements in the West Bank. The freeze would not apply to construction already underway or to East Jerusalem.

    (UPDATE: Hillary Clinton issued a statement praising the move: “Today’s announcement by the Government of Israel helps move forward toward resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We believe that through good-faith negotiations the parties can mutually agree on an outcome which ends the conflict and reconciles the Palestinian goal of an independent and viable state based on the 1967 lines, with agreed swaps, and the Israeli goal of a Jewish state with secure and recognized borders that reflect subsequent developments and meet Israeli security requirements. Let me say to all the people of the region and world: our commitment to achieving a solution with two states living side by side in peace and security is unwavering.”

    Mitchell said: “….While they fall short of a full freeze, we believe the steps announced by the prime minister are significant and could have substantial impact on the ground. For the first time ever, an Israeli Government will stop housing approvals and all new construction of housing units and related infrastructure in West Bank settlements. ….”)

    The moratorium is one that Hillary Clinton caused an uproar over by praising as “unprecedented” at a Jerusalem news conference last month, though she and Obama have made clear the point is to try to move to a relaunch of Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations as soon as possible. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has so far continued to publicly insist on a full settlement freeze that would include East Jerusalem and a halt to existing construction before returning to those talks.

    Though it is seen as insufficient by the Palestinians and some advocates of a two-state solution, one Israeli observer noted that the moratorium “is a major step for Netanyahu and and it is what has been agreed with Mitchell.”

    Whether Mitchell can use it to push Palestinians back to the table remains to be seen. “We will try,” one administration official said on condition of anonymity. “They won’t like it today, but we hope to build on it, so to speak.”

    Pro-Israeli group officials meeting with legislative members last week had suggested Netanyahu was about to make the moratorium announcement. But then before he did, a Jerusalem planning board approved the construction of some 900 new homes in the Jerusalem suburb of Gilo, in an area taken by Israel after the 1967 war. The White House and State Department publicy rebuked Israel for the move, and for days, there was a sense of uncertainty about whether the moratorium announcement was still going to happen and what it would even mean if it did.

    Meantime, new factors are in play. Reports on progress in Egyptian-mediated negotiations between Hamas and Israel for the release of Israeli Corp. Gilad Shalit had suggested Israel was considering releasing Palestinian politicial figure Marwan Barghouti, who is among the prisoners whose release Hamas has demanded. If the deal takes place, and it’s not clear that it will, Barghouti’s return would potentially give Abbas more political competition. It might also at least temporarily bolster Hamas, which would be credited for gaining Barghouti’s release. Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom has been cited as saying Barghouti won’t be released; Hamas says he will.

    “Everything is rumor now, worth less than an old copy of the National Enquirer,” one Israeli American journalist says of the Barghouti/Shalit reports and counterreports. He suggested that, in the long run, Hamas didn’t want Barghouti as a political competitor any more than Fatah did.

    “A freeze excluding East Jerusalem is problematic at best,” one Washington Middle East hand said. “A Shalit deal, however, will put a lot of pressure on Abu Mazen.”


    And the winner is: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    This may be “old new”, from Friday 11/2, and perhaps it was already posted. If so, tough noogies. If it was good medicine then, then it’s good for you now.

    The NY Times admits that Karzai is not talking with anyone in the administration except for that feisty woman. You know, the SMART one?


    Clinton Seen as Obama’s Key Link to Afghan Leader

    Published: November 19, 2009

    KABUL, Afghanistan — It is far from clear that President Obama can depend on President Hamid Karzai to bring order to this violent country, but it is becoming clear that he will depend on Hillary Rodham Clinton to be his go-between in dealing with the mercurial Afghan leader.

    In a visit to Kabul, during which she held a 90-minute, one-on-one session with Mr. Karzai on Wednesday, and in an intense telephone call a few weeks ago in the aftermath of Afghanistan’s election, Secretary of State Clinton has built an unlikely rapport with the Afghan leader, according to administration officials.

    It is a new and risky role for Mrs. Clinton — one that thrusts her into the thick of the administration’s most critical international problem, but that also hitches her reputation to a leader who has often proved unreliable. If Mr. Karzai lets down the White House again, Mrs. Clinton, as his principal intermediary with the administration, could find herself damaged along with him.

    Mrs. Clinton, who got to know Mr. Karzai in 2005 when she took him to Fort Drum in upstate New York to thank American veterans of the Afghan war, seems to recognize the potential dangers.

    “When I came into the administration, I was one of the few people who had a long-term positive relationship with President Karzai,” Mrs. Clinton said in an interview on Thursday, hours after seeing him get sworn in. “I continue to believe he has a tremendous historical opportunity.”

    But she quickly added, “That doesn’t mean you make excuses for behavior that you want to see changed; you constantly push back.” In the meeting this week, a senior official said, she bluntly warned Mr. Karzai to crack down on corruption or risk losing American aid.

    Her rapport with Mr. Karzai puts her in a distinct minority among senior American officials, some of whom have either clashed with him or, as in the case of Mr. Obama, never developed a relationship with him.

    With Mr. Obama planning to announce his decision soon on sending more troops to Afghanistan, Mrs. Clinton has emerged, for better or worse, as the senior official best placed to push Mr. Karzai to help make that policy work. Mr. Karzai appears to appreciate the relationship; he moved up the date of his inauguration to accommodate her schedule, a senior American official said.

    As Mr. Karzai begins his new term, Mrs. Clinton has worked to avoid a hectoring tone in her public comments about him. American officials had done too much of that in the past, she said.

    Shortly before Mr. Obama took office, Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. stalked out of a meeting with Mr. Karzai. More recently, Mr. Karzai reacted badly when the administration’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard C. Holbrooke, asked him what he would do if a runoff election became necessary after the initial round of voting in August.

    The American ambassador, Karl W. Eikenberry, has a workable relationship with Mr. Karzai, officials said. But the two have also had their ups and downs, and anyway, some American officials say the White House needs an interlocutor at a higher level than an ambassador, or even a special envoy, like Mr. Holbrooke.

    President George W. Bush used to conduct regular video conference calls with Mr. Karzai from the White House. When Mr. Obama stopped the practice, officials said, it left Mr. Karzai hurt and bewildered.

    “It is critical Obama develops a channel to Karzai where hard messages can go both ways,” said Bruce O. Riedel, who helped the administration formulate its initial Afghan policy. “It is time-consuming, but we can’t hope to succeed without a political channel that works.”

    Mrs. Clinton “combines the hard-headed strength, the political clout and the human understanding to do it right,” said Mr. Riedel, who is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

    Of those qualities, her political bona fides may be the most relevant. When Mr. Karzai was wavering about whether to allow a runoff vote after almost a million of his votes were disqualified, she implored him to acquiesce, arguing that he would emerge with a stronger hand. (In the end, Mr. Karzai’s rival, Abdullah Abdullah, pulled out, making a second round unnecessary.)

    In case Mr. Karzai did not get her point, Mrs. Clinton reminded him of her own bitter experience in the 2008 Democratic primaries, losing to Mr. Obama, who later named her the nation’s chief diplomat.

    “One of the ways that I talk with President Karzai is in very political terms, because I understand that in politics, you’ve got to make some tough compromises sometimes,” she said.

    American officials failed to make allowances for his circumstances in trying to govern an unruly country, she said. “We were trying to hold him to a standard that was not in sync with the historical standard.”

    When Mr. Karzai first took office in 2002, she noted, there were one million students in Afghanistan, virtually all boys. Today, there are seven million, 40 percent of them girls. She said Mr. Karzai deserved some credit for that, as well as for other advances during his tenure.

    Mrs. Clinton also noted that the United States was hardly a perfect candidate to demand a crackdown on corruption.

    Asked about reports in The New York Times that the C.I.A. made payments to a brother of Mr. Karzai, Ahmed Wali Karzai, who is suspected of involvement in the drug trade, Mrs. Clinton did not respond directly, but said, “Every country makes compromises, and it behooves you to be humble about pointing fingers.”

    “It also is a reminder that we have to do more to support his campaign against corruption,” she added. “We have to facilitate, not impede, the removal and even prosecution of those who are corrupt.”

    With Hamid Karzai around for the foreseeable future, the administration has little choice but to accommodate him. So Mrs. Clinton looked for praiseworthy lines in Mr. Karzai’s inaugural speech. If he delivers, she said, he can expect American support for years to come.

    “I would imagine, if things go well, that we would be helping with the education and health systems and agriculture productivity long after the military presence had either diminished or disappeared,” she said.

  6. No doubt Uncle Teddy stuffed Hillary’s healthcare with amendments to make sure it failed. He wanted this healthcare to be one of his accomplishments. He was what we called in soccer a “ball hog”. He was more concerned with whether his name was on it rather than for the 40 million without insurance. I bet you that why he did it.


    This guy gets taken to the cleaners by Iran, Russia, North Korea, the list is endless…and from Friday’s 11/20 NYT article, how the Chinese stage managed him into a corner.


    In Obama Interview, Signs of China’s Heavy Hand

    Published: November 19, 2009
    President Obama spent part of his last morning in Beijing giving an interview to Southern Weekly, a newspaper in Guangdong Province sometimes known for its push-the-envelope approach to the government’s ever-present censorship.

    But if the White House expected a hard-hitting article that showcased the United States’ commitment to press freedom, it must have been disappointed when the newspaper hit the stands on Thursday.

    Mr. Obama was quoted talking about basketball. His other comments — about trade, bilateral relations and China’s rise — added virtually nothing to what he had previously said on his three-day visit.

    Yet, as they did throughout the president’s visit, the government authorities appeared to monitor carefully how his words were transmitted to China’s public. They were especially vigilant about Southern Weekly’s report, by some accounts, because Mr. Obama had turned down an interview request from CCTV, China’s main national television network.

    Mr. Obama’s advance team may have selected Southern Weekly for the interview because it has had a reputation for occasionally tackling subjects other state-run media outlets decline to examine. If so, American officials got a taste of the limits of media diversity in the country.

    Southern Weekly’s publication was held up late into the night, said one of its journalists, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution. The page that contained the interview was missing from the edition delivered to Western news outlets in Beijing.

    An employee of Southern Weekly’s reader services department said the Obama article delayed several pages in the front section past the deadline for Beijing delivery. But there were scattered reports that the paper was not able to deliver even to newsstands in its hometown, Guangzhou, the provincial capital.

    The weekly’s Web site did not display the interview with any prominence, and primary Internet portals were ordered to ignore it, Chinese journalists said. “It is not like whatever Obama says is news,” said Yu Wei, a top editor of the portal Sohu.com.

    Michael Anti, a Chinese blogger and an advocate of greater press freedom who once worked as a researcher for The New York Times in Beijing, said the White House should not have expected anything different. “This result is no surprise to us,” he said in a telephone interview. “Maybe Obama didn’t understand that all the high officials of the so-called free media are appointed by the party.”

    Zhang Zhe, a reporter who attended the 12-minute interview on Wednesday, declined to answer questions about whether government censors were involved in either formulating questions for Mr. Obama or reviewing the paper.

    The weekly’s editor in chief, Xiang Xi, said he was too busy to answer questions. In an interview with China Business News, however, Mr. Xiang did not quite present himself as an independent journalist. “Since Obama chose us, Southern Weekly must represent Chinese national interests,” he told the newspaper, which is based in Shanghai.

    Propaganda officials in the past few years have sought to install more loyal editors at Southern Weekly and have warned Internet news portals not to pick up politically sensitive stories if the newspaper publishes them.

    Moreover, this week showed that the Chinese authorities were determined to oversee the shaping of Mr. Obama’s public image here. They rejected a White House request to nationally broadcast Mr. Obama’s town-hall-style meeting on Monday in Shanghai, and carefully screened and coached questioners. One student said that she and other participants underwent four days of “training” beforehand and that they were ordered not to ask about Tibet. Mr. Obama’s news conference with President Hu Jintao on Tuesday was broadcast nationwide, but no questions were allowed.

    Mr. Anti said that Southern Weekly seemed to have forfeited the chance for a less sanitized encounter. In the first three questions, Mr. Obama was asked how he felt about his first visit to China, whether he still had time to play basketball and how he saw China-United States cooperation in the region. “They just talked about nothing,” Mr. Anti said. “Just empty talk.”

    Mr. Xiang, the weekly’s editor, portrayed it differently to the Shanghai newspaper.

    “Obama didn’t avoid any questions or hedge in a politician’s tone,” he said. “Of course, we didn’t hold back; we asked all the questions that should be asked.”


    Funny jobs numbers?

    Joe Schmo quoted as saying: “Hey, is dis one of dem “Created” jobs, or one of dem “Saved” jobs? I can’t tell, because mine didn’t get saved and it didn’t get created”.


    Watchdog Urges Caution on Claims of 640,000 Stimulus Jobs

    Published: November 19, 2009
    WASHINGTON — The government watchdog overseeing the federal stimulus program testified Thursday that he could not vouch for the Obama administration’s recent claims that the money had saved or created 640,000 jobs. He suggested that the administration should have treated the number with more skepticism.

    The 640,000 figure, announced by the White House with some fanfare last month, came from reports filed by recipients of the stimulus money, many of which have been shown to be inaccurate or overstated since they were made public. But the watchdog, Earl E. Devaney, the chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, said that it was also possible that the figure understated how many jobs were affected. Up to 10 percent of the recipients had not filed the required reports showing how many jobs they had created or saved, he said.

    “I have no doubt that there’s a lot of jobs being created,” Mr. Devaney said at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. “I think it could be above or below 640. I think missing reports might drive the job numbers up, and I think there’s enough inaccuracies in here to question if the 640 number might go down.”

    When the White House announced the figures three weeks ago, officials hoped to reassure people that the $787 billion stimulus program was working in the face of rising unemployment. Many economists credit the stimulus with helping the economy, but tallying the actual jobs has proved difficult. A series of embarrassing reports — of raises being counted as new jobs, of jobs claimed in Congressional districts that do not exist, of school districts claiming to have saved the jobs of more teachers than they employ — may have ended up undermining confidence in the stimulus program.

    This week, Representative David Obey of Wisconsin, an influential Democrat who helped write the stimulus bill, issued a blistering statement calling the mistakes in the data “ludicrous” and “outrageous.”

    “Credibility counts in government, and stupid mistakes like this undermine it,” he said. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. was even quizzed about the figures when he sat for an interview on “The Daily Show.”

    Also Thursday, a report issued by the Government Accountability Office identified “significant” problems with the jobs numbers. It found that 58,386 of the jobs were being claimed by recipients who had not reported spending any money; on the other hand, recipients who had received nearly $1 billion had claimed no jobs at all.

    Administration officials have said that they believe that mistakes overcounting jobs are likely to be offset by mistakes undercounting them.

    Representative Darrell E. Issa, the ranking Republican on the committee, read the Oxford English Dictionary’s definition of propaganda at the hearing, and suggested that the administration was using the faulty jobs figure to promote its policies.

    He read a series of statements of administration officials trumpeting the figure, and asked Mr. Devaney if it would have been better to have simply acknowledged that the data came from recipients and could not be verified.

    Mr. Devaney, who has warned for months that the data was likely to contain inaccuracies, seemed to agree, saying that he liked that statement. The data is all publicly available on the government’s Web site, http://www.recovery.gov, which he oversees.

    Elizabeth A. Oxhorn, a White House spokeswoman, said that Mr. Biden had warned publicly that the data was not 100 percent accurate and would require corrections.

    Mr. Devaney said that the mistakes were coming to light because of the effort toward transparency, and said, “My expectation is that any embarrassment suffered will encourage self-correcting behavior and lead to better reporting in the future.”

  9. rgb:…Her rapport with Mr. Karzai puts her in a distinct minority among senior American officials, some of whom have either clashed with him or, as in the case of Mr. Obama, never developed a relationship with him.
    Well, now. There’s another thing POTUS has not done. Never discussed Afghanistan with Afghan President. But I hear he’s going to travel to West Point next Tuesday to tell everyone how he’s going to finish GWB’s job over there.
    OT but his state dinner Tuesday night really burns me and I don’t see much coverage of the expense and opulence. There is a slide show of the event and preparations for it at www dot politico.com/click/stories/0911/power_by_day_glamour_by_night.html
    Slide #19 showns construction in progress, #9 is a shot of guests enjoying. I do not understand who pays for this, or what justification there is for holding such a thing when WSJ tells me FDIC is running in negative territory.
    online dot wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091124-711307.html
    I just wish he’d take his whole darned show to Hollywood where it belongs.

  10. BTW, who did the most to get rid of landmines while attacked as landmine war hawks? That’s right – Bill and Hillary Clinton:


    “Every year land mines kill or maim more than 25,000 people — children, women, farmers peacefully going about their business. That is why, since I called for the global elimination of land mines in 1994, the United States has been at the forefront of the effort to ban them — not just in words, but in actual, concrete deeds. I believe…that every man, woman and child in this world should be able to walk the Earth in safety.”

    President Clinton
    The White House
    September 17, 1997

  11. These people like the poster at D-kooks are pathetic. I don’t feel anything but anger for the African Americans who abandoned Hillary and Bill for Obama. I don’t remember his name but there was an African American super delegate in Ohio who was afraid for his life. His family was being threatened and he said that he was glad it was so cold outside so he didn’t have to leave the house. This kind of intimidation is still happening. Is it too early to start impeachment proceedings?

  12. Dija so sorry to hear of your loss, i lost my grandmother a few months ago, it hits hard. All i can say is “Celebrate her life, don’t mourn the death”.

    xx for now.

  13. Well, if bambi plays his cards right, his next gig can be lead character in a remake of “Moon Over Parador.” He’s smarmy, egotistical, stupid…what more could you ask for?

  14. just a moment to check in again, still got to read the article, but wanted to jump in with “THANKS” to all the words of comfort and sympanthy from everyone… Much appreicated.

    we will be celebrating her life for sure, that was what my mom was all about 😀

  15. I watched the duffus in chief pardon the Thanksgiving turkey today, he had notes that he read off. OMG! he can’t even make a simple “thanksgivingday turkey pardon” without notes or a teleprompter. This is just getting more ridiculous every day.

    Someone said up thread they wish he would take his show to Hollywood where it belongs…..a truer statement has never been said.

    Again tonight another campaign ad for Soro’s latest protege, Farouk Shami. Soros needs someone who will sign off on the eminent domain so he can have his TransTexas highway. I can tell you the folks in Texas are ready for this fight and it won’t be a pretty one. Some of the ranches and farms have been in the same families since the 1700’s and they are not giving up without a fight. This really could be the start of the revolution. Texans aren’t going to put up with this shit from Washington, when they know all the jobs will be going to Brazil (Soros new home).

  16. I will also add that Soros new home was partially paid for by our tax dollars. How much did Bambi give Soros to buy into the oil well in Brazil?? Guess??

  17. Florida Students Suspended for ‘Kick a Jew Day’

    Tuesday, November 24, 2009

    NAPLES, Fla. — Ten students at a Naples middle school were suspended after district officials say they participated in “kick a Jew day.”

    District spokesman Joe Landon says a Jewish student at North Naples Middle School student reported being kicked on Thursday. The school’s principal addressed the entire student body the next morning and asked for anyone with information about the alleged attack to come forward.

    The district determined that 10 students should be punished. They each served one day of in-school suspension Monday.

    Landon says the first 20 minutes of the school day, which is normally used for reading and tutoring, will now be used to teach students about respect, kindness and ways to prevent bullying.

    No criminal charges have been filed.


  18. Apologies for making everyone sick with this news:


    The queen of daytime will interview the president of the country during an ABC holiday special that brings together Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama.

    The network has announced “Christmas at the White House: An Oprah Primetime Special,” which includes an interview with the president, a conversation with the First Couple and tour of the White House. The special will also go behind-the-scenes as staffers prepare the White House for the holiday season.

    The special marks the first time Winfrey has interviewed Obama since he took office. “Christmas at the White House” will air Sunday, Dec. 13, at 10 p.m.

    Winfrey, who has never endorsed a presidential candidate before, was a strong supporter of Obama during his presidential campaign, stumping for him in key states.

    She attended Obama’s victory rally in Chicago last November and the president’s inauguration in January but has not been politically involved since the election and recently interviewed former Alaska governor and Obama rival Sarah Palin.

    Winfrey also didn’t attend the high-profile first White House state dinner Tuesday night, but her close friend Gayle King did.

    While she reigns in daytime with her talk show, Winfrey has rarely hosted primetime specials, most notably her 1993 interview with Michael Jackson at his estate. Oprah recently announced she will end her syndicated talk show in 2011 and focus on launching her cable network, OWN.

  19. Big Media and thugs:


    Six people arrested in August outside a raucous town hall meeting in south St. Louis County have been charged with misdemeanor ordinance violations.

    The six, including a Post-Dispatch reporter, had attended a demonstration outside an Aug. 6 forum called by U.S. Rep. Russ Carnahan, D-St. Louis, at Bernard Middle School in Mehlville to discuss health care reform.

    The charges were filed Tuesday by the St. Louis County counselor’s office, which prosecutes misdemeanor ordinance violations in unincorporated areas. All are to appear in court Jan. 21.

    The maximum penalty upon conviction would be one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

    Some bloggers have been writing for months about the lag between the arrests at the politically-charged event and the filing of charges.

    County Counselor Patricia Redington insisted it had nothing to do with politics, influence or pressure from any official.

    “These charges are like the 90,000 other charges we file each year,” she said.

    Post-Dispatch reporter Jake Wagman, 30, of University City, was charged with interfering with a police officer. The charges allege that he failed to obey repeated commands “to leave the site of an ongoing disturbance.”

    Elston McCowan, 47, of St. Louis, and Perry Molens, 50, of De Soto, each were charged with assaulting a person and interfering with police. They are accused of scuffling with and injuring Kenneth Gladney in a clash of opinions over the Democrats’ universal health care proposals.

    Javonne Spitz, 51, of O’Fallon, Mo., and Brian Matthews, 34, of Glendale, also were charged with interfering with an officer. Cheryl Johner, 55, of Arnold, was charged with assaulting a person and destruction of property for allegedly pushing another woman and breaking her cell phone.

    Ordinance violation charges are usually filed within four to six weeks of an incident, Reddington said, but this case involved interviews with dozens of witnesses and review of many videos posted on the Internet.

    Post-Dispatch Editor Arnie Robbins issued a statement Wednesday that said, “Jake was covering a newsworthy incident. He was not in the way or interfering with the police. His press credentials were fully displayed. The charge is unfounded and will be challenged in court.”

    The BigGovernment site has more:


  20. djia
    November 25th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    “we will be celebrating her life for sure, that was what my mom was all about.”

    You have my sincerest sympathy, djia. We’ve reached that stage where we’ve become parents to our parents.. You will be in our blessings in tomorrow’s thanksgiving. God Bless-

  21. Just to get this up before wbboei does…

    As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
    I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
    Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

    We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
    That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
    But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
    So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

    We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
    Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place;
    But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
    That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

    With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
    They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
    They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
    So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

    When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

    On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

    In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
    By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
    But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

    Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
    And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
    That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four—
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man—
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:—
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

    And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
    As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will bum,
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

    — Rudyard Kipling

  22. sort of an FYI ‘on the street’ encounter…today I went into a “hip” store here in Broward county…the hub of democratic loyalists…and i started chatting with the girl running the store…i would guess she was about 25…anyway, one thing led to another and she said “i lean left and all my friends lean left, but i don’t know anyone who wants this health reform scam’ she said she is leaning libertarian and can’t believe how uninformed all her friends are and how she has to be careful what she says around them…I told her, don’t believe all the leftist propoganda and BS you are hearing…so much of it is the usual ‘group think’ junk that gets filtered down from their corporate bosses and driven into the mainstream…the dims have become the party of corportists and O is their ringleader…he just took over from bush and now is making a very bad situation much WORSE…be strong and keep questioning everything…don’t fall for the lies…

    moral of the story…even the young people in fort lauderdale are seeing thru the smoke and mirrors of the O admin…


    on another note…i had a thought today that perhaps Oprah’s end of her network tv show is kind of a clearing of space for her to get more involved in the O admin…maybe an ambassadorship…or, more likely, another CZAR POSITION…czar of some concocted whatever…it will not surprise me at all if something like this is in the making…

  23. Contrary to popular opinion, Obama is unprecedented in a number of ways, however none of them positive.

    November 25th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    1. first president to hail from the Windy City of Chicago and the corrupt political machine
    2. first president to grant terrorists equal rights with the American People
    3. first president to bankrupt the country
    4. first president to ignore the wishes of 2/3 of the American People re. health care
    5. first president to take his wife on mega expensive expensive dates at taxpayer expense
    6. first president to passionately embrace Chavez, Castro and Ortega
    7. first president to side with Abminizjad against the freedom fighters in Iran
    8. first president to bow to his knees to the world dicators, and refuse to pledge allegiance to the flag
    9. first president to be openly anti white and anti middle class
    10.first president to be owned and controlled by George Soros


    And the winner is: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Of course!

  25. Home –> Articles
    August 20, 2008
    The odd choices in Barack Obama’s career
    By J.R. Dunn

    It’s time to throw my hat in the ring as regards predicting the election results. So here it is: Barack Obama will be defeated. Seriously and convincingly defeated. Not due to racism, not due to the forces of reaction, not even due to Karl Rove sending out mind rays over the national cable system. He will lose for one reason above all, one that has been overlooked in any analysis that I’ve yet seen. Barack Obama will lose because he is a flake.

    I’m using the term in its generally accepted sense. A flake is not only a screwup, but someone who truly excels in making bizarre errors and creating incredibly convoluted disasters. A flake is a “fool with energy”, as the Russian proverb puts it. (“A fool is a terrible thing to have around, but a fool with energy is a nightmare”.)

    Barack Obama is a flake, and the American people have begun to see it. The chief characteristic of a flake is that he makes choices that are impossible to either understand or explain. These are not the errors of the poor dope who can’t grasp the essentials of a situation, or the neurotic who ruins things out of compulsion, or the man suffering chronic bad luck.

    The flake has a genius for discovering solutions at perfect right angles to the ordinary world. It’s as if he’s the product of a totally different evolutionary chain, in a universe where the laws are slightly but distinctly at variance to ours. When given a choice between left and right, the flake goes up — if not through the 8th dimension. And although there’s plenty of rationalization, there’s never a logical reason for any of it. After awhile, people stop asking.

    Obama’s rise has been widely portrayed as a kind of millennial Horatio Alger story — young lad from a new state on the outskirts of the American polity, a member of once-despised minority, works his way by slow degrees to within arm’s length of the presidency itself. That’s all well and good — we need national myths of exactly that type.

    But what has been overlooked is the string of faux pas marking each step of Obama’s journey, a series of strange, inexplicable actions, actions bizarre enough to require some effort at explanation, through such efforts have rarely been offered. It’s as if the new Horatio made it to the top by stepping into every last manhole and open trapdoor in his path. And we, the onlookers, the voters who are being asked to put this man in the White House, are supposed to take this as the normal career path for a successful chief executive.

    What are these incidents? I’m sure many of you are way ahead of me, but let’s go to the videotape.

    Here’s a young man who graduated from Columbia with high marks, with a choice of positions anywhere in the country. He comes from a state generally held to be a close match to Paradise. One, furthermore, that can be characterized as the most successful multiracial society in the world, with harmonious relations not only between whites and blacks, but also Japanese-Americans and native Hawaiians as well. To top it off, a state controlled in large part by a smoothly-functioning Democratic machine. So where does he choose to go?

    To Chicago. One of the windiest, coldest, most brutal cities in the country. One that is also infinitely corrupt in a sense that Hawaii is not. One that remains one of the most racist large cities in the U.S. (Cicero, Al Capone’s old stomping grounds, a suburb that is effectively part of the city, is completely segregated to this day.) It would be nice to learn which of these aspects most attracted young Obama to the city. But if you’d asked at the beginning of the campaign, you’d still be waiting.

    And what does he do when he reaches the city? Why, he joins a cult. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church has been turned inside out since the videotaped sermons appeared early this year, without anyone ever quite explaining exactly what Obama was thinking of when he joined up in the first place. Street cred, so it’s claimed. But there are a plethora of black churches that would have provided him that without the taint of demented racism that Wright’s church offered.

    Obama apparently had to swear an oath of belief in “black liberation theology” when he joined the church. (It is the little touches of that sort that make it a “cult”, and not simply a “church”.) Did the thought of his career ever cross his mind? Didn’t he realize that church would inevitably cause him trouble somewhere down the line? That he’d be required to repudiate it and its ideas eventually? We can ask — but we won’t get an answer.

    Back at school, Obama got himself named editor of the Harvard Law Review. This is a signal achievement, no question about it. The kind of thing that would be mentioned about a person for the rest of his life, as has been the case with Obama. But then… he writes nothing for the journal.

    Now, let’s get this straight: here we have one of the leading university law journals in the country, one widely cited and read. Entire careers in legal analysis and scholarship have been founded on appearances in the Review, including some that have led to the highest courts in the country. Yet here’s an individual who, as editor, could easily place his own work in the journal — standard practice, nothing at all wrong with it. But he fails to do so. And the explanation? There’s none that I’ve heard. We can go even farther than that, to say that there is no explanation that makes the least rational sense.

    We follow Obama down to Springfield, where as a state legislator, he voted “present” over 120 times. What this means, as far as I’ve been able to discover, is that he voted “present” nearly as much as he voted “yes” or “no”.

    Now, statehouses work very simply: a member approaches his colleagues and asks them them to vote for his bill. Some comply, some do not. Some ask, “Is it a good bill?” and some don’t. Either way, they customarily, except in unusual circumstances, vote “yes’ or “no”. All except for Barack Obama. And how did get away with it? How did mollify his colleagues? How did he square himself with the party bosses? Echo answereth not.

    (A good slogan could be made of this: “You can’t vote present in the Oval Office.” I hereby commend it to the McCain campaign.)

    We turn eagerly to learn what his term in the U.S. Senate will reveal, only to be disappointed. But it’s not surprising, really. After all, he was only there for 143 days.

    And there lies one of the keys to Obama’s rise. David Brooks pointed out in a recent New York Times column that Obama spent too little time in any of his positions to make an impact one way or another. This is what saved him from the normal fate of the flake: he was never around long enough for his errors and strange behavior to catch up with him.

    But a presidential campaign is a different matter. A man running for president is under the microscope, and can’t duck anything, as many a candidate has had reason to learn. If Obama is a flake in the classic mode, now is when it would come out. And has it?

    The case could be made. Here we have a campaign with everything going for it — the opposition party in a shambles, a seriously undervalued president, the media in the candidate’s pocket, the candidate himself being worshiped as nothing less than the new messiah. And yet the results have comprised little more than one fumble after another.

    First came the Wright affair. Obama apparently thought he was above it all — a not-uncommon phenomenon with flakes — and allowed the revelations to take on a life of their own before bothering to respond. Even then, his thoughtful and convincing explanation (that he hadn’t been listening for twenty years) did little to settle the crisis, which instead guttered out on its own after nearly crippling his campaign. Even months afterward it threatens to pop back up at any time. The latest word is that Wright — now a deadly enemy of his onetime protégé — has written a book. I can’t wait.

    Obama learned his lesson, and confronted the next threat immediately, tackling The New Yorker cover with the avidity of a man having discovered zombies in the basement. A development that could have been defused with a chuckle and a quip (the customary method is for the politician to ask the cartoonist for the original) was allowed to explode into a major issue. The campaign’s relentless attacks on one of the oldest liberal magazines extant merely perplexed the country at large. After all, any Republican has had to endure far worse.

    Almost simultaneously, the birth certificate saga was unfolding. On no reasonable grounds, the campaign blew off requests for a copy of the document, at last releasing it through one of the least reputable sites on the Internet, and so badly copied that literally anything could be read into it — and was. I’m not one of those who believes that Obama was actually born in Indonesia/Kenya/Moscow/the moon, but I still have plenty in the way of questions, almost all of them arising from how the matter was handled. Well played.

    The latest pothole (or one of them, anyway) involves Jerome Corsi’s The Obama Nation. Corsi has been given the full New Yorker treatment, with the campaign hoping to avoid John Kerry’s “error” in not challenging Corsi’s 2004 book, Unfit for Command. What Obama missed was the fact that Kerry’s major problem was not with Corsi but with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who were disgusted with Kerry’s hypocrisy in running as an experienced military veteran, and set out to take him down. Corsi’s effort dovetailed with the veteran’s campaign and to a large extent was swept up with it. No such campaign is in operation against Obama. The smart method of answering Corsi would have been to allow the media to handle it, instead of drawing attention to the book and raising it to level of an issue. This appears to be a real talent for the Obama campaign.

    We could go on. The victory tour of Europe, and the speech in which Obama declared himself “citizen of the world”, a trope guaranteed to focus the attention of Middle America. His inept handling of Hillary, in which he wound up appearing frightened of the opponent he’d just beaten. Allowing Hillary (and her husband there, what’s-his-name) a starring role in the Democratic convention is not a solution any sane individual would be comfortable with — much less a roll-call vote. This threatens the near-certainty of turning the entire affair into BillandHillarycon, with the nominee winding up as a footnote. But it’s all of a piece with the campaign Obama has waged up until now.

    We’ve never had a flake as president. We’ve had drunks, neurotics, cripples, louts, and fools, but never a career screwup. (I except Jimmy Carter, whose errors arose from sincere, misguided goodwill.) And I don’t think we’re going to get one now. Another three months of flailing, incompetence, and a collapsing image will do little to assure voters concerned with terrorism, the oil crunch, a gyrating economy, and a bellicose Russia. (Anyone doubting that Obama will go exactly this route can consider the Saddleback church fiasco, which unfolded as this piece was being wrapped up. Evidently, the campaign goaded NBC news personality Andrea Mitchell into all but accusing John McCain of “cheating” by failing to take his place within the “cone of silence” during Obama’s part of the program. The grotesque element here is that Obama’s people and much of the liberal commentariat — including Mitchell — apparently believe that the “cone of silence”, a gag prop for the old Get Smart! comedy series, actually exists and was in use at Saddleback.)

    Many of us have dealt with flakes at one time or another, often in settings involving jobs and careers, and not uncommonly in positions of some authority. We all know of the nephew, the fiancé, the boyfriend, whose whims must be catered to, whose reputation must be protected, who must be constantly worked around if anything at all is to be accomplished, always at the cost of time, money, efficiency, and personal stress.

    In the fullness of time, we will inevitably see such a figure in the White House. But not this year, and not this candidate. Such acts of national flakery occur only when there’s no real alternative. In this election, an alternative exists. Whatever his shortcomings, nobody ever called John McCain a flake.

  26. Does this really surprise anyone???


    A couple of aspiring reality-TV stars from Northern Virginia appear to have crashed the White House’s state dinner Tuesday night, penetrating layers of security with no invitation to mingle with the likes of Vice President Biden and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

    Tareq and Michaele Salahi — polo-playing socialites known for a bitter family feud over a Fauquier County winery and their possible roles in the forthcoming “The Real Housewives of Washington” — were seen arriving at the White House and later posted on Facebook photos of themselves with VIPs at the elite gathering.

    “Honored to be at the White House for the state dinner in honor of India with President Obama and our First Lady!” one of them wrote on their joint Facebook page at 9:08 p.m.

    But a White House official said the couple were not invited to the dinner, not included on the official guest list and never seated at a table in the South Lawn tent.

    A woman describing herself as a publicist for the Salahis denied that they were interlopers. Pressed for details, Mahogany Jones sent a statement saying simply: “The Salahis were honored to be a part of such a prestigious event…. They both had a wonderful time.”

    In same room with world leaders

    While the White House offered no official explanation, it appears to be the first time in modern history that anyone has crashed a White House state dinner. The uninvited guests were in the same room as President Obama, first lady Michelle Obama and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, although it is unknown whether they met the Obamas and the guest of honor.

    article continues

    geesh! talk about security!

  27. talk about amateur hour…more on the reality show state dinner gate crashers, including a photo of a smiling Biden with his arm around the woman


    and this one has the ‘all powerful’ Rahm standing there smiling in a photo with the gate crashers


  28. usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-11-24-Poll_N.htm

    O is tanking big time on all major issues


    His extended deliberations may be taking a toll: 55% disapprove of the way he is handling Afghanistan and 35% approve, a reversal of his 56% approval rating four months ago.

    “He’s being held responsible for a deteriorating situation and relentlessly bad news,” says political scientist Richard Eichenberg of Tufts University. “But Americans continue to believe doing something about al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was the right thing to do.”

    On a series of fronts, Obama is moving against headwinds:

    • By more than 2-1, Americans say the United States shouldn’t close the terrorist prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, as Obama has promised.

    • By 49%-44%, they oppose passing a health care bill in Congress this year, which he calls critical.

    • A majority are against holding the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York, and nearly six in 10 say the self-proclaimed 9/11 mastermind should be tried in a military rather than a civilian court. That’s at odds with the decision announced this month by Attorney General Eric Holder.

    When it comes to seven specific areas, Obama no longer commands majority support on any. On only two — energy policy and global warming — does he have a net positive rating. On the economy, health care, jobs and Afghanistan, a majority disapprove of how he’s doing. There’s an almost even divide on his handling of terrorism: 45% approve, 47% disapprove.


  29. This administration is shaping up to be a colossal failure. Even if he has a success or two and big media trumpets him it will make no difference. This is the reverse of the boy who cried wolf principle. The media have been spinning, propandizing an lying for him for so long that if they say compliment him for something he does achieve no one will believe them.

  30. Houston Mayor Bill White also addressed the audience, noting the size and importance of the local Muslim community. Mr. White is seeking higher state office, and a positive impression on him could be to the advantage of Muslims. The Chairman of the ISGH ‘Ulema Committee, Shaikh Abdul ‘Aziz of the Brand Lane Masjid also graced the occasion.
    I work with a nurse who is the SIL of Bill White, Dem running for Senate in Texas. I use to think he had a slim chance, not real well know outside of Houston, but I see he is keeping shaddy co. What do you know of him?

  31. The Al-Qaeda Bar


    Some of the nation’s wealthiest and most powerful law firms have donated hundreds of millions of dollars in free legal services to terror suspects at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

    Their work, bolstered by left-wing activists groups, has helped to free, or force the transfer, of hundreds of al Qaeda suspects to third countries. Some have gone back to terrorism and the job of trying to kill Americans.

    The work of big American law firms on behalf of al Qaeda is drawing new attention since Attorney General Eric Holder decided this month that Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who orchestrated the murder of over 3,000 9-11, is coming to New York City for trial. Holder was a partner at Covington & Burling, which in 2005 gave one its attorneys an award for aiding 17 Yemeni suspects at Guantanamo.

    Much more @ link

  32. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15. This is the second straight day at -15, the lowest Approval Index rating yet measured for President Obama (see trends).

    Seventy-four percent (74%) of African-Americans Strongly Approve along with just 19% of white voters (see other recent demographic highlights from the tracking poll).

    Among all voters, just 34% now give the President good or excellent marks on his handling of the economy while 47% say he is doing a poor job in that arena. On national security issues, 42% say good or excellent while 41% say poor.

    Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters believe that political correctness kept the military from preventing the Fort Hood shootings.

  33. From Bp as were the last two, I am tired and waiting for a cake to cool…

    Barack & Sarah’s reversal of fortune

    Last year at this time, Bar ack Obama was fresh off his historic election, riding a honeymoon high that would see him hit 70 per cent approval. Voters gave his party control of Washington, and media acolytes were force-feeding the nation syrupy comparisons to FDR and Lincoln.

    Sarah Palin, on the other hand, was sent skulking back to Alaska, beaten as well as defeated. John McCain wouldn’t let her speak on election night, a final insult in a race where she was ridiculed as a little nutty by the mainstream press and a little slutty by late-night jackals.

    What a difference a year makes. And the winds of change are still gaining speed.

    Obama’s fall from grace has been dramatic as he pushes unpopular policies from a health-care overhaul to 9/11 terror trials in New York. His approval is below 50 percent, and the man who rode the wave of public anger is now the focus of it. Even deep-blue states like New Jersey are falling out of love.

    He has redivided the nation he promised to unite, and those who strongly oppose him outnumber those firmly in his corner. Independents and moderate Democrats are jumping ship, having concluded he was not honest about promises to govern from the center.

    Even more surprising, Palin is the darling of discontent. Her book, “Going Rogue,” is a publishing sensation, selling 600,000 copies in two days. Thousands of people camp out overnight to buy the book and get her autograph.

    She’s becoming the phenomenon Obama was a year ago.

    This flip-flop in fortunes stems from many factors, war and recession chief among them. Yet ultimately, Obama has mostly himself to blame.

    He’s aligned himself with the left wing of his party instead of the ordinary Americans who identify with Palin. His Ivy League eloquence seems tired next to her wrong-side-of-the-tracks passion.

    That she could quit her job as governor and still rise from the dead is a testament to fury at Obama and his policies. She is probably not a viable 2012 candidate; then again, he’s not looking so hot himself.

    His slide is prompting some beleaguered supporters to argue that expectations for his presidency were naively high. Laugh out loud at that one.

    He set those expectations with messianic-like promises, such as the claim his election would mark “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

    No sign of that yet, but unemployment and the deficit are soaring. And speaking of the planet, some of his climate-change advisers have been cooking the books by hiding inconvenient data and squelching dissent. So much for science and transparency.

    Oh, and the phony stimulus job stats don’t pass the smell test.

    Recent events perfectly capture his problem. Still undecided after reviewing Afghan policy for over three months, Obama opted for a bowing-and-scraping trip to Asia.

    The long visit was a waste of time and showed “disturbing amateurishness in managing America’s power,” writes Leslie Gelb, a foreign-policy expert whose book aims to help guide Obama. Apparently, the president didn’t read it.

    Obama then marked his return home with his 25th golf outing and a promise that “I will not rest until . . . businesses are hiring again and people have work again.”

    He should get his rest. It’s the golf he should give up.

    His choice of words at the Monday photo op was also revealing. His obsession with health-care bills surfaced as he saw an “urgent need for us to get to the finish line,” before conceding that most people are focused on “jobs and the economy.”

    Indeed they are. So why isn’t he?


  34. S, fortunately it was imbiber Biden with his arm around the woman gate crasher. If Jon Favreau was there a groper sex assault case would have ensued.

  35. yes admin…check out this photo of Biden with the babe…


  36. November 25, 2009
    ABC announces Oprah-Obama Christmas special

    The queen of daytime will interview the president of the country during an ABC holiday special that brings together Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama.

    The network has announced “Christmas at the White House: An Oprah Primetime Special,” which includes an interview with the president, a conversation with the First Couple and tour of the White House. The special will also go behind-the-scenes as staffers prepare the White House for the holiday season.

    The special marks the first time Winfrey has interviewed Obama since he took office. “Christmas at the White House” will air Sunday, Dec. 13, at 10 p.m.

    Winfrey, who has never endorsed a presidential candidate before, was a strong supporter of Obama during his presidential campaign, stumping for him in key states.

    She attended Obama’s victory rally in Chicago last November and the president’s inauguration in January but has not been politically involved since the election and recently interviewed former Alaska governor and Obama rival Sarah Palin.

    Winfrey also didn’t attend the high-profile first White House state dinner Tuesday night, but her close friend Gayle King did.

    While she reigns in daytime with her talk show, Winfrey has rarely hosted primetime specials, most notably her 1993 interview with Michael Jackson at his estate. Oprah recently announced she will end her syndicated talk show in 2011 and focus on launching her cable network, OWN.


    Oprah is launching her own network, OWN. (Oprah Winfrey Network)

    The queen of daytime will interview the president of the country during an ABC holiday special that brings together Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama.

    The network has announced “Christmas at the White House: An Oprah Primetime Special,” which includes an interview with the president, a conversation with the First Couple and tour of the White House. The special will also go behind-the-scenes as staffers prepare the White House for the holiday season.

    The special marks the first time Winfrey has interviewed Obama since he took office. “Christmas at the White House” will air Sunday, Dec. 13, at 10 p.m.

    Winfrey, who has never endorsed a presidential candidate before, was a strong supporter of Obama during his presidential campaign, stumping for him in key states.

    She attended Obama’s victory rally in Chicago last November and the president’s inauguration in January but has not been politically involved since the election and recently interviewed former Alaska governor and Obama rival Sarah Palin.

    Winfrey also didn’t attend the high-profile first White House state dinner Tuesday night, but her close friend Gayle King did.

    While she reigns in daytime with her talk show, Winfrey has rarely hosted primetime specials, most notably her 1993 interview with Michael Jackson at his estate. Oprah recently announced she will end her syndicated talk show in 2011 and focus on launching her cable network, OWN.

    IIRC- Something I read long ago-

    Oprah is launching her own Church called The New Age Religion.


    sounds to me like another Jim Jones.. Koolaid session.

  37. Last year at this time, Bar ack Obama was fresh off his historic election, riding a honeymoon high that would see him hit 70 per cent approval. Voters gave his party control of Washington, and media acolytes were force-feeding the nation syrupy comparisons to FDR and Lincoln.

    Sarah Palin, on the other hand, was sent skulking back to Alaska, beaten as well as defeated. John McCain wouldn’t let her speak on election night, a final insult in a race where she was ridiculed as a little nutty by the mainstream press and a little slutty by late-night jackals.

    What a difference a year makes.
    Prophetic words from the contemptible Michael Goodwin. He is the king of jackals. A year ago May he was screaming on Lou Dobbs and his column in the New York Daily News that Hillarys invocation of Robert Kennedys name mean she wanted the same fate to befall Obama. That is the kind of jackal he is.

  38. From BP


    Palin, Bachmann to headline Tea Party convention

    (CNN) – Sarah Palin will be the main attraction at what’s being billed as the “First National Tea Party Convention.”

    Tea Party Nation announced Wednesday that last year’s Republican vice presidential candidate will serve as keynote speaker for the conference, scheduled to take place in Nashville, Tennessee February 4-6. A representative for Palin has not confirmed the former Alaska governor’s speaking role at the gathering.

    The group also announced that Rep. Michele Bachmann will be speaking at the gathering as well. The Minnesota Republican has become a hero among many in the conservative movement. A representative for Bachmann confirms her speaking role.

    The event could focus the political spotlight on both women. Bachmann has become a rising star, her ascent fueled in part by major support from Tea Party activists. For Palin – currently taking a brief Thanksgiving break from a national tour for her new book, “Going Rogue: An American Life” – serving as headliner at a tea party convention could increase speculation that she is weighing a run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination.

    Judson Phillips, a spokesman for Tea Party Nation, says the group is talking with other high-profile political leaders about possible convention roles, though he wouldn’t name any names.

    “(T)he convention is aimed at bringing the Tea Party Movement together from around the nation for the purpose of networking and supporting the movements’ multiple organizations (sic) principle goals,” according to a statement from the group.

    Phillips says the conference will feature workshops, seminars, information centers, and organizational tools for leaders to take back to their respective local tea party organizations. He adds that the Republican Party is not coordinating or organizing with Tea Party Nation in any way.

    Phillips says Tea Party Nation was launched in April, just before the first tea parties were held across the country on tax deadline day, and that the group held rallies in Nashville and in other parts of Tennessee on April 15. He added that Tea Party Nation also organized a smaller tea party event in early July, when a second round of events were held around the nation, but did not take part in the two cross-country tea party caravans held the past few months.

    A spokesman for the Tea Party Express, which organized those two cross country tea party caravans, says they are not currently involved in the organization of the convention, but that they are supportive of the gathering’s goals.

  39. thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-15/the-boys-under-the-bus/

    …getting a little crowded under that bus…not to mention – women, seniors, african americans, gays, even former governor Siegelman says O DOJ is the same as Bush’s DOJ…


  40. news.aol.com/article/michaele-and-tareq-salahi-crash-white/787013?icid=main|main|dl3|link2|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fmichaele-and-tareq-salahi-crash-white%2F787013

    …this has the whole CNN segment on the security breach of the gate crashers at the WH…very embarrassing…and on a serious note, dangerous…

    party on, Obamas! oblivious to everything but let the good times roll…

  41. Now isn’t this interesting?

    Free Speech Silenced at Columbia and Princeton
    by Pamela Geller

    Nonie Darwish, the executive director of Former Muslims United and author of Cruel And Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law, was scheduled to speak at Columbia and Princeton last week, but both events were canceled under pressure from Muslim groups on campus.

    Darwish, a soft-spoken ex-Muslim and daughter of an Islamic martyr, is a champion of the rights of women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies, and leader of the group Arabs for Israel. She had been planning to speak on “Sharia Law and Perspectives on Israel.” She is one of the few courageous voices who speak out against Islamic anti-Semitism and the oppression of women under Sharia.

    At Princeton, she was invited three weeks ago and was scheduled to speak last Wednesday. But on Tuesday evening, Arab Society president Sami Yabroudi and former president Sarah Mousa issued a joint statement, claiming: “Nonie Darwish is to Arabs and Muslims what Ku Klux Klan members, skinheads and neo-Nazis are to other minorities, and we decided that the role of her talk in the logical, intellectual discourse espoused by Princeton University needed to be questioned.”

    The sponsors of her talk immediately caved in to this defamation. The president of the Whig-Clio student debate Society, Ben Weisman, said: “Our decision to co-host the event was based on our belief that by extending an offer to speak to Ms. Darwish, members of TFI deemed her views a legitimate element of the mainstream discourse and in part agreed with her incendiary opinions. By rescinding their offer, TFI indicated their understanding that Darwish’s views have no place in the campus community.”

    TFI was the other group that had invited Darwish to campus: the ironically named Tigers for Israel. They also issued a statement: “On Tuesday evening Tigers for Israel and Whig-Clio rescinded our cosponsorship of today’s Nonie Darwish Lecture. Tigers for Israel accepted the opportunity for her to speak based on a misconception about what she actually believes. After her anti-Islam position was brought to my attention on Tuesday afternoon by the Center for Jewish Life director Rabbi Julie Roth and the Muslim Chaplain Imam Sohaib Sultan, I conducted extensive research and discussed the issue with TFI and Whig-Clio leadership, and we decided to rescind our cosponsorship after concluding that Tigers for Israel disagrees with and does not condone Ms. Darwish and her beliefs on Islam. As President of TFI I take full responsibility for not vetting Ms. Darwish from the beginning, and I sincerely apologize for offending any person or group on campus, especially the Muslim community. Tigers for Israel deeply regrets the initial sponsorship and we do not in any way endorse her views.”

    At Columbia, where Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was welcomed like a returning king, Darwish was rejected. Just hours before Darwish was scheduled to speak at Columbia last Thursday, the Whig-Clio group and the Tigers for Israel again succumbed to demands from student Muslim groups and canceled her speaking event.

    The Whig-Clio Society is the oldest debating society in the U.S., founded by James Madison in 1765. These are the students who are supposed to be the leaders of the future. Haven’t these Ivy League students studied Islam? Jihad? Have they read Dr. Andrew Bostom’s The Legacy of Jihad and his Legacy of Islamic Anti-Semitism? Here is something they don’t know: Sohaib Sultan, who helped get the Darwish lecture canceled, wrote the book The Koran for Dummies. In that book he says that the medieval Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir is the “most referred to” authority on Islam “in the Muslim world today.” Sultan says that Ibn Kathir offers “an excellent collection of historical analysis on the Koran and his mastery of Islamic law makes his insights especially interesting.” Yet Ibn Kathir taught that Muslims should wage jihad war against Jews and Christians and impose laws upon them that would make them “disgraced, humiliated and belittled.” Ibn Kathir said that “Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah [Jews and Christians] or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.”

    So who is more like the KKK or neo-Nazis? A courageous woman standing up for human rights for Muslim women and ex-Muslims, or a Muslim imam who holds up as an authority someone who says that non-Muslims should be “disgraced, humiliated and belittled”?

    Darwish told me that she was shocked that just weeks after an Islamic attack on a military base on U.S. soil, the largest such attack in U.S. history, activists who speak the truth about Islam are being shut down and marginalized.

    And in another assault on free speech last week, they were throwing pies at a Robert Spencer event at NYU. What’s next?

    Voices of truth are being marginalized. And things have gotten decidedly worse since Obama took over.


  42. wbboei
    November 26th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    I didn’t know McCain wouldn’t let SP talk on election night. Is that true I wonder. I really think he was an A*s to her post election and tried to infer it was her fault. He didn’t ever defend her, or the very least imaginable. He came off very vindictive and the old cries of a Major Chauvinist came to be true I believe.

    Wbb, do you know anything of Bill White?

    By the way, NEVER make a Tres Leche cake…it is taking hours…

  43. From Ace

    The 12 Days Of Obamas (pronounced like Christmas at the end, you see — Oba-Mass).

    Continue reading

    On the First day of Obamas my true lord gave to me, a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Second Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, two car companies and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Third Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, three options for Afghanistan, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the fourth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Fifth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Sixth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Seventh Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Eighth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, eight principles for health care, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Nineth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, nine trillion dollar deficit, eight principles for health care, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Tenth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, ten resignations, nine trillion dollar deficit, eight principles for health care, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Eleventh Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, eleven months of rule, ten resignations, nine trillion dollar deficit, eight principles for health care, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

    On the Twelfth Day of Obamas, my true lord gave to me, twelve teleprompters, eleven months of rule, ten resignations, nine trillion dollar deficit, eight principles for health care, seven broken promises, six principles to fix Wall Street, Five Terrorists in NYC, four pillars of foreign policy, three Afghanistan options, two car companies, and a promise to close Gitmo.

  44. Hahah, Granny Doc, the Kossack in question, is so full of shit, it’s staggering. Pretentious. Sanctimonious. Dishonest. Gullible. She’s a demerit for the human race. Oh, and she’s a psychologist, not an MD. Anyway, here is my favorite Granny Doc diary. Whenever someone would try and use her diaries to convince I should support Obama, this is the link I would send them:


    When I was growing up in elitist, upper-class, isolation, I realized rather early that in order to survive in the world I would have to learn a great deal about how “the other half” lived. My mother, lately come to the culture of the New England blue-bloods, was horrified when, at the age of 13, I went out and got a job in a retail store.

    My father, heavily imbued with nobless oblige, was delighted. He felt that I had many things to learn and struggling for a pay check was a excellent way to start.

    My first task was to figure out how those with whom I would be working acted, and why.

    * Granny Doc’s diary :: ::

    Looking much older than my tender years, and having lied about my age to get the job (I said I was 17), I had no difficulty being accepted as “one of the girls” on the first day. Admittedly, I was better dressed, but no one seemed to notice that, at first.

    My first shock was the total violation of social graces that I had been indoctrinated to believe were sacred. These women talked about things that were never mentioned in “polite society”. They discussed money, and sex, and religion, and politics. They listed their physical infirmities. They discussed family altercations, break-ups, and loss. And they did all of this in public!

    I was nonplussed. I was horrified. And then, I figured out that these conversations lent status and position, generated shared joy and condolences, were used to bond and form friendships based on shared experiences. It was no different in my crowd, but it was far less self-disclosing and far more impersonal. Easy for us because our status was a given, our friendships were formed based on group dynamics that rarely threw strangers together, and it required no proof of why one should be accepted.

    How different it was down in the trenches! But, I learned. I was never quite as successful as I wanted to be, but I was very careful to never divulge my roots, or my lack of need for that job, to the hard working young women who shared the chores with me. We became casual friends, and I developed a deep respect for their work ethos, and their struggles. Struggles no different from those experienced in my community, but less concealed, and less denied.

    As luck would have it, that early preparation was critical. I have worked all of my adult life, and the skills I learned in that first foray into the world have stood me in good stead.

    This lead in to the question in my title will be come clear, soon.

    Each of us finds ourselves in situations where we don’t know the rules. We don’t understand the dynamic. We don’t speak the lingo. We are at a disadvantage because no matter where we might have started, we are at sea in deciphering the rules of the current situation.

    The reasoned response is to look for direction from those who are more experienced, know more about the dynamics; those who can talk the talk and walk the walk that will lead to assimilation in the new culture.

    If I want information I go to the informed. If I want fun, I go to those who look like they are having fun. And, if I want success, I seek out the successful and rehearse their attitudes and behaviors.

    Why then, are the least successful in our culture, so eager to dismiss successful and skilled men and women on the basis of elitism? Why does that word create fear and a reflexive dislike? Why do so many people turn away from learning and growing with disgust?

    If, everywhere I turned, I was being told that highly educated, affluent, sophisticated voters were supporting one candidate, and low educated, economically stressed, uninformed voters were supporting another, what part of group identification would keep me from wanting to follow the lead of successful people?

    I remember those young women, all of those years ago. They wanted to grow beyond their current place in the scheme of things. They wanted to get an education, marry “well”, travel, and be a part of a bigger world.

    This is the generation who now sneer at “elitism”. What happened, and what will it take to rekindle that joy and curiosity, that striving for personal growth?

    It is not that we “know better”, but we know demonstrably more. When did seeking the well informed when information is needed, become a signal of social failure?

    A funny, and favorite song, just popped into my head. “Why can’t a woman be more like a man?” With some modification, those lyrics contain all of the truth and hubris implicit in my question!

  45. Obama is the first President to pardon the turkey with the use of notes on his podium. I couldn’t believe he can’t even make an impromptu pardon without his speech writer.

  46. Even though it’s the holiday for being thankful, and I am for many things including all of you here at Big Pink, I cannot pause without mentioning this article about health reform legislation:

    “It’s a huge amount of power being shifted to HHS, and much of it is highly discretionary,” said Edmund Haislmaier, an expert in health care policy and insurance markets at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
    www dot washingtonexaminer.com/politics/HHS-would-become-federal-giant-under-Senate-plan-8586777-73718162.html

    Now then: Happy Thanksgiving to All

  47. Here’s Obama Thanksgiving message to the muslims:

    Obama Sends Greetings To Muslims

    As Obama’s Navy Department continues with their plans to try 3 Navy SEALs for allegedly giving the al Qaeda terrorist who murdered and mutilated 4 Blackwater security guards a fat lip, Obama sent greetings, on behalf of the United States, to pilgrims performing the annual hajj in Saudi Arabia, and to Muslims worldwide celebrating the Eid-ul-Adha holiday.

    “The rituals of Hajj and Eid-ul-Adha both serve as reminders of the shared Abrahamic roots of three of the world’s major religions,” read a White House statement.

    “On behalf of the American people, we would like to extend our greetings during this Hajj season — Eid Mubarak,” Obama said, using a traditional Muslim greeting

  48. I am thankful for all of my Big Pink friends who stuck it out through all of this last year, all of those that read and occasionally post, and all of those that just read.

    Happy Thanksgiving to ALL.

  49. Well it is 8:40 and I finished that never to be attempted Tres Leche cake.

    Wanted to take a moment to thank Admin and you all for my sanity. We always knew we were right… and to wish all a festive, fun, good food, good friends Thanksgiving day. To those who have to work…God bless you. God bless our troops…

  50. In all my born days have you ever, here’s one for Wobbeis unprecedented list, ah well they had foreigners names, i guess they get a superficial glance for security……

    htt p://ww w.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1231081/White-House-Gatecrashers-Michaele-Tareq-Salahi-crash-Obamas-White-House-party-post-pictures-Facebook-embarrassing-security-scare.html

    The White House Gatecrashers: Reality TV hopefuls crash Obama party and post pictures on Facebook

    Crashing a state dinner at the White House apparently takes a security breakdown as well as some kind of nerve.

    But the stars were aligned for Tareq and Michaele Salahi on Tuesday night.

    White House staff were left red-faced after the aspiring reality TV couple caused a security scare by gatecrashing an Obama-hosted dinner.

    The Salahis mingled in the same room as President Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama and guest of honour Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh – despite not being on the guest list.

    They even posed for pictures with Vice President Joe Biden, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and U.S. news presenter Katie Couric.

    It is not known if they encountered the Obamas themselves.

    The couple was only discovered after posting pictures on Facebook.

    They captioned them, writing: ‘Honored to be at the White House for the state dinner in honor of India with President Obama and our First Lady!’

    The couple did not manage to be seated at a table in the South Lawn tent where the dinner was held, however.

    ……read on

  51. How do you just wander into a state dinner in the WH and mingle with the CoS, the VP, celebrities, HOW?

    The Govt’s of the US and India could have been wiped out in one go had they been trained assassins.

    Unprecedented, sorry had to throw that in.

  52. Happy Thanksgiving to all…and special thanks to Admin for your courage and intelligence…

    …’see’ you all in a couple of days…

  53. Moononpluto, That was something, WH party crashers??? Whats up with the Secret Service?? There has been unpresendented security around the President, how could these two have gotten through??

  54. We now know that the Chi-town mobsters own the WH, just as they thought they did in 1963, JFK, and his brother went after those mobsters. Thats not the case here, they have consolated power in both parties and I can tell they won’t give up that easily. We think we can just merely vote them out, huh, they own the ballot boxes, Sec. of states, the county chairman, governors and governors to be.

    My prediction is either Obama will re-run or they will have a corrupt politician in the rethug party to take his place. The people of United States have been boondoggled into letting these crooks in power and it will be long time before we can get them out.

    If it was that easy to rid a state of corruption, Illinois would have gotten rid of the Daley machine long ago, they haven’t been able to do either.

  55. wbboei
    November 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
    Contrary to popular opinion, Obama is unprecedented in a number of ways, however none of them positive.

    11. First president who no one knows for sure where he was born, including perhaps his wife, himself, and his mother and father.
    12. First president to provide proof of citizenship in an on-line only version.
    13. First president since 1948 to treat Israel worse than her warring neighbors.
    14. First president with absolutely zero “executive experience” prior to being sworn in.
    15. First president to require a second take in swearing in.
    16. First president to require a teleprompter for over 75% of all public appearances (W. was probably around 40%, but he didn’t care what he said the other 60% of the time).
    17. First SITTING president to win a nobel prize. For no apparent reason. Except as “embodying a concept”, or vaguely for “being an inspiration”, or the color of his skin but not for his deeds.

  56. wbboei, I have found the silver lining in the black cloud that has been hanging over our country. (black cloud=losing our bread basket status in the world to South America.
    I just had a conversation with a Dr. from Peru and she said the fruits and vege’s there are wonderful. She said Peru has over 200 kinds of potatoes. The avacado’s are from the size of a walnut to the size of a grapefruit, so I will look forward to that, but not the transtexas highway and the outward theft by our govt to get the land from its owners.
    BTW, Lou Dobbs is open to running for POTUS in 12′, I think it could be Dobbs/Palin 12′.

  57. I want to wish all of my youg friends on big pink a very safe and fullfilling holiday.Thanks giving is a day for all no matter whoever and whatever you are thankful for.In my 91 years on this earth my blessings are truly over whelming.THank you all.

    By ABM90. May this coming year be year that Hillary becomes our real POTUS and saves our precious country from it’s elected enemies.

  58. BTW, Lou Dobbs is open to running for POTUS in 12′, I think it could be Dobbs/Palin 12′.

    The perpetual VP candidate..

    wbboei, did you read the WSJ article Obama’s bad golf (I linked to it on the other thread)? At NQ John Batchelor thought his golf outings were a ruse to hide his smoking.

    If anyone cares 😉 there is a picture of Hillary at the state dinner on still4hill and secretaryclinton blogs.

  59. PM317, I was just guessing as to Palin, but read an article about Dobbs. I actually think it would be better if it were Palin/Dobbs, afterall she the one with the experience in govt.

  60. Hope this post isn’t too long, but here are some facts against a current debunking of Thanksgiving.

    Here’s the case for the prosecution, which boils down to: there was a party in 1621 and Indians did join and bring food; a generation later, 1637, there was a fight. http://www.oyate.org/resources/shortthanks.html

    Here’s the original British account of the 1621 event, which sounds like a prospectus, but isn’t that far off in the facts of the 1621 event.

    We set last spring some twenty acres of Indian corn, and sowed some six acres of barley and peas; and according to the manner of the Indians, we manured our ground with herrings [….]

    Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might, after a special manner, rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors. [….] At which time, among other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming among us, and among the rest their greatest king, Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted; and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation, and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others.

    [The Indians] are a people without any religion or knowledge of any God, yet very trusty, quick of apprehension, ripe-witted, just.

    Although I received no letter from you by this ship, yet forasmuch as I know you expect the performance of my promise, which was, to write unto you truly and faithfully of all things, I have therefore at this time sent unto you accordingly, referring you for further satisfaction to our more large relations.

    You shall understand that in this little time a few of us have been here, we have built seven dwelling-houses and four for the use of the plantation, and have made preparation for divers others. We set last spring some twenty acres of Indian corn, and sowed some six acres of barley and peas; and according to the manner of the Indians, we manured our ground with herrings, or rather shads, which we have in great abundance, and take with great ease at our doors. Our corn did prove well; and, God be praised, we had a good increase of Indian corn, and our barley indifferent good, but our peas not worth the gathering, for we feared they were too late sown. They came up very well, and blossomed; but the sun parched them in the blossom.

    Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might, after a special manner, rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors. They four in one day killed as much fowl as, with a little help beside, served the company almost a week. At which time, among other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming among us, and among the rest their greatest king, Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted; and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation, and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others. And although it be not always so plentiful as it was at this time with us, yet by the goodness of God we are so far from want, that we often wish you partakers of our plenty.

    We have found the Indians very faithful in their covenant of peace with us, very loving, and ready to pleasure us. We often go to them, and they come to us. Some of us have been fifty miles by land in the country with them, the occasions and relations whereof you shall understand by our general and more full declaration of such things as are worth the noting. Yea, it has pleased God so to possess the Indians with a fear of us and love unto us, that not only the greatest king among them, called Massasoit, but also all the princes and peoples round about us, have either made suit unto us, or been glad of any occasion to make peace with us; so that seven of them at once have sent their messengers to us to that end. Yea, an isle at sea, which we never saw, hath also, together with the former, yielded willingly to be under the protection and subject to our sovereign lord King James. So that there is now great peace amongst the Indians themselves, which was not formerly, neither would have been but for us; and we, for our parts, walk as peaceably and safely in the wood as in the highways in England. We entertain them familiarly in our houses, and they as friendly bestowing their venison on us. They are a people without any religion or knowledge of any God, yet very trusty, quick of apprehension, ripe-witted, just.

    For the temper of the air here, it agrees well with that in England; and if there be any difference at all, this is somewhat hotter in summer. Some think it to be colder in winter; but I cannot out of experience so say. The air is very clear, and not foggy, as has been reported. I never in my life remember a more seasonable year than we have here enjoyed; and if we have once but kine, horses, and sheep, I make no question but men might live as contented here as in any part of the world. For fish and fowl, we have great abundance. Fresh cod in the summer is but coarse meat with us. Our bay is full of lobsters all the summer, and affords a variety of other fish. In September we can take a hogshead of eels in a night, with small labor, and can dig them out of their beds all the winter. We have muscles and othus [others?] at our doors. Oysters we have none near, but we can have them brought by the Indians when we will. All the spring-time the earth sends forth naturally very good salad herbs. Here are grapes, white and red, and very sweet and strong also; strawberries, gooseberries, raspberries, etc.; plums of three sorts, white, black, and red, being almost as good as a damson; abundance of roses, white, red and damask; single, but very sweet indeed. The country wants only industrious men to employ; for it would grieve your hearts if, as I, you had seen so many miles together by goodly rivers uninhabited; and withal, to consider those parts of the world wherein you live to be even greatly burdened with abundance of people. These things I thought good to let you understand, being the truth of things as near as I could experimentally take knowledge of, and that you might on our behalf give God thanks, who hath dealt so favorably with us.

    Our supply of men from you came the 9th of November, 1621, putting in at Cape Cod, some eight or ten leagues from us. The Indians that dwell thereabout were they who were owners of the corn which we found in caves, for which we have given them full content, and are in great league with them. They sent us word there was a ship near unto them, but thought it to be a Frenchman; and indeed for ourselves we expected not a friend so soon. But when we perceived that she made for our bay, the governor commanded a great piece to be shot off, to call home such as were abroad at work. Whereupon every man, yea boy, that could handle a gun, were ready, with full resolution that, if she were an enemy, we would stand in our just defense, not fearing them. But God provided better for us than we supposed. These came all in health, not any being sick by the way, otherwise than by sea-sickness, and so continue at this time, by the blessing of God. . . .

    When it pleased God we are settled and fitted for the fishing business and other trading, I doubt not but by the blessing of God the gain will give content to all. In the meantime, that we have gotten we have sent by this ship; and though it be not much, yet it will witness for us that we have not been idle, considering the smallness of our number all this summer. We hope the merchants will accept of it, and be encouraged to furnish us with things needful for further employment, which will also encourage us to put forth ourselves to the uttermost.

    Now because I expect your coming unto us, with other of our friends, whose company we much desire, I thought good to advertise you of a few things needful. Be careful to have a very good bread-room to put your biscuits in. Let your cask for beer and water be iron-bound, for the first tire, if not more. Let not your meat be dry-salted; none can better do it than the sailors. Let your meal be so hard trod in your cask that you shall need an adz or hatchet to work it out with. Trust not too much on us for corn at this time, for by reason of this last company that came, depending wholly upon us, we shall have little enough till harvest. Be careful to come by some of your meal to spend by the way; it will much refresh you. Build your cabins as open as you can, and bring good store of clothes and bedding with you. Bring every man a musket or fowling-piece. Let your piece be long in the barrel, and fear not the weight of it, for most of our shooting is from stands. Bring juice of lemons, and take it fasting; it is of good use. For hot waters, aniseed water is the best; but use it sparingly. If you bring anything for comfort in the country, butter or salad oil, or both, is very good. Our Indian corn, even the coarsest, makes as pleasant meat as rice; therefore spare that, unless to spend by the way. Bring paper and linseed oil for your windows, with cotton yarn for your lamps. Let your shot be most for big fowls, and bring store of powder and shot. I forbear further to write for the present, hoping to see you by the next return. So I take my leave, commending you to the Lord for a safe conduct unto us, resting in him,

    Your loving friend,
    E. W.
    — Plymouth Colony leader Edward Winslow, 1621

  61. Hmm it gets more interesting, these two gatecrashers at the WH are heavily involved with American Task force for Palestine, ones a board director.

    I wonder if they actually were invited off the record and the WH did not want anyone to know until the wife displayed it all over Facebook.

  62. That was something, WH party crashers??? Whats up with the Secret Service?? There has been unpresendented security around the President, how could these two have gotten through??


    Disguised as a pimp and a prostitute, maybe?

  63. confloyd, yes I know you were guessing but I think it is impossible for Palin to run on another VP slot again. She will have to run for the big enchilada and right now I think her chances are kind of slim of winning unless she develops good ideas on issues that matter. But she certainly has the attention of the public that every politician craves.

  64. On my Thanksgiving history post, here’s a version more balanced and realistic than either extreme. (Search for ‘Englishmen’ to skip to the key events of 1621)
    h/ no w
    xiphias.livejournal.com/544757.html?style=mine#cutid1 Massasoit’s expert political manipulation maintained peace in the region for at least fifty years. [….] Maybe not very many generations — but nonetheless, an accomplishment to be celebrated.

  65. Thursday, November 26, 2009
    Gary Bauer

    Happy Baracksgiving

    What do the nascent economic turnaround, Chicago White Sox ace Mark Buehrle’s perfect game and conservative Republican Robert F. McDonnell’s landslide victory in the Virginia governor’s race have in common?

    Barack Obama, if we are to believe the president and his surrogates, is responsible for them all.

    Much has been written about Mr. Obama’s penchant for self-aggrandizement. As a candidate in October 2008, he said: “Like any politician at this level, I’ve got a healthy ego.” But Mr. Obama goes beyond what even most politicians would do in taking credit for things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. It is made worse by his habit of blaming others – namely his predecessor and his country – for all that ails the world. It is one thing for a president to try to control an issue. In late October, Mr. Obama said, “We can see clearly now that the steps my administration is taking are making a difference, blunting the worst of this recession and helping to bring about its conclusion.”

    It’s another thing entirely for him to take credit for things he had nothing to do with. In a phone call to the White Sox’s Buehrle after the pitcher threw a perfect game in July, Mr. Obama, according to administration Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, said “maybe [the perfect game] was because I wore the White Sox jacket at the All-Star Game.”

    Mr. Obama’s proxies go even further. Last fall, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine credited Mr. Obama for the cease-fire between Russia and Georgia, saying, “I’m very, very happy that the senator’s request for a cease-fire has been complied with by President Medvedev.”

    After protests following Iran’s sham elections in June, senior Obama advisers privately credited Mr. Obama’s Cairo speech for inspiring protesters. One senior administration official told The Washington Post, “There clearly is in the region a sense of new possibilities. I was struck in the aftermath of the president’s speech that there was a connection. It was very sweeping in terms of its reach.” Mr. Obama himself said that “obviously after the speech that I made in Cairo we tried to send a clear message that we think there is the possibility of change” – for a “robust debate” in Iran.

    Of course, as the economists would say, correlation does not imply causation. Just because Mr. Obama called for a cease-fire in Georgia and it happened does not mean Mr. Obama caused it to happen. But Mr. Obama’s admirers never allow logic to interrupt their praise for the president from whom all blessings flow.

    Republican victories on Election Day 2009 were seen partly as a repudiation of Mr. Obama’s policies. Yet Obama senior adviser David Axelrod flipped the prevailing wisdom on its head by insisting that Mr. McDonnell, a Republican, won in Virginia because he ran “not as a Sarah Palin Republican, but more as a Barack Obama centrist.”

    Obamaphiles even credit him with making interracial marriage fashionable and with the surge in the use of BlackBerrys because of Mr. Obama’s devotion to the gadget.

    Mr. Obama rarely deflects praise. At last year’s Al Smith dinner, he joked, “If I had to name my greatest strength, I guess it would be my humility. Greatest weakness, it’s possible that I’m a little too awesome.” That must have been what the Norwegian Nobel Committee was thinking when it nominated Mr. Obama for the Nobel Peace Prize after he had been in office just two weeks. When the committee awarded him the prize in October, it highlighted Mr. Obama’s “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”

    The Norwegians also credited Mr. Obama with creating a “new climate in international politics.” That probably had nothing to do with Mr. Obama’s efforts to address man-made climate change but could have been related to his claim upon receiving the Democratic nomination that he was “absolutely certain that generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when … the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

    Mr. Obama’s self-aggrandizement would be more easily forgivable if it weren’t combined with his habit of deflecting blame to others. In his aforementioned October remarks about the economy, he was careful to add, “As I’ve said many times, it took years to dig our way into the crisis we’ve faced. It will take more than a few months to dig our way out.” The most revealing words above are “as I’ve said many times.” Indeed, Mr. Obama has continuously blamed former President George W. Bush for global warming, the recession, the deficit, anti-America sentiment abroad and much more.

    Mr. Obama is constantly either “cleaning up the mess” left by Mr. Bush, rescuing us from a “financial disaster” that he “inherited” from Mr. Bush or saving us from a war strategy that was “adrift” under Mr. Bush. Most shameful is Mr. Obama’s criticism of Mr. Bush’s war on terror, which Mr. Obama claims “likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.”

    Aside from the president’s curious habit of bowing to foreign sovereigns, it has been Obama the vain, Obama the arrogant and Obama the smug. The only apologies Mr. Obama issues are on behalf of America for its supposed sins. During Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez’s anti-America rant at the United Nations, Mr. Obama sat quietly and commented later that he couldn’t feel bad about things done before he was born.

    What Mr. Obama couldn’t sit through was a plane ride to Germany for the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. He did, however, find the time to send a video address reminding Germans of all the world-changing events that have taken place over the past two decades, including … wait for it … his own ascension to the U.S. presidency.

    None of this bodes well for the Thanksgiving holiday, traditionally a time when presidents offer remarks about reasons our country can be thankful. Given that our current president embraces the liberal view of an American history defined by enslavement and antagonism toward American Indians, he may wish to avoid any mention of the Thanksgiving story. Instead, Americans awakening from tryptophan-induced comas may see a president earnestly quoting our first president’s Thanksgiving proclamation, which implored “the great Lord and Ruler of nations … to pardon our national and other transgressions.”

    During Mr. Obama’s recent trip to Asia, he told students in Shanghai, “I think it’s very important for the United States not to assume that what is good for us is automatically good for somebody else. And we have to have some modesty about our attitudes towards other countries.”

    Would that Mr. Obama exhibited half as much modesty as he demands from the nation that elected him president.


  66. A chilling 30 second glimpse of what Squat has done to the economy in just 11 short months.

    the unemployment rate from “07 to today.

    www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=x18hrNp

  67. wbboei, any of you economist out there could you pls decipher this for me. I am not sure what this could mean for us here in the U.S.

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Just a year after the global downturn derailed Dubai’s explosive growth, the city is now so swamped in debt that it’s asking for a six-month reprieve on paying its bills — causing a drop on world markets Thursday and raising questions about Dubai’s reputation as a magnet for international investment.

    The fallout came swiftly and was felt globally after Wednesday statement that Dubai’s main development engine, Dubai World, would ask creditors for a “standstill” on paying back its $60 billion debt until at least May. The company’s real estate arm, Nakheel — whose projects include the palm-shaped island in the Gulf — shoulders the bulk of money due to banks, investment houses and outside development contractors.

    In total, the state-backed networks nicknamed Dubai Inc. are $80 billion in the red and the emirate needed a bailout earlier this year from its oil-rich neighbor Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates.

    Markets took the news badly — with the Dubai woes and the continued fall of the U.S. dollar giving investors twin worries. Dubai’s move raised concerns about debt across the Gulf Region. Prices to insure debt from Abu Dhabi, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain all rose by double-digit percentages Thursday, according to data from CMA DataVision.

    In Europe, the FTSE 100, Germany’s DAX and the CAC-40 in France opened sharply lower. Earlier in Asia, the Shanghai index sank 119.19 points, or 3.6 percent, in the biggest one-day fall since Aug. 31. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng shed 1.8 percent to 22,210.41.

    Wall Street was closed for the Thanksgiving holiday and most markets in the Middle East were silent because of a major Islamic feast.

    “Dubai’s standstill announcement … was vague and it remains difficult to discern whether the call for a standstill will be voluntary,” said a statement from the Eurasia Group, a Washington-based research group that assesses political and financial risk for foreign investors interested in Dubai.

    “If it is not, Dubai World will be going into default and that will have more serious negative repercussions for Dubai’s sovereign debt, Dubai World and market confidence in the UAE in general,” the statement added.

    Dubai became the Gulf’s biggest credit crunch victim a year ago. But its ruler, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al-Maktoum, had continually dismissed concerns over the city-state’s liquidity and claims it overreached during the good times.

    When asked about the debt, he confidently assured reporters in a rare meeting two months ago that “we are all right” and “we are not worried,” leaving details of a recovery plan — if such a plan exists — to everyone’s guess.

    Then, earlier this month, he told Dubai’s critics to “shut up.”

    “He needs to produce a recovery plan that will be respected by those who want to do business with Dubai,” said Simon Henderson, a Gulf and energy specialist at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “If he does not do it right, Dubai will be a sad place.”

    After months of denial that the economic downturn even touched the glitzy city-state, the Dubai government earlier this year showed signs of trying to deal with the financial fallout that has halted dozens of projects and touched off an exodus of expatriate workers.

    In February, it raised $10 billion in a hastily arranged bond sale to the United Arab Emirates central bank, which is based in Abu Dhabi.

    The deal — seen by many as Abu Dhabi’s bailout of Dubai — was part of a $20 billion bond program to help Dubai meet its debt obligations.

    On Wednesday, the Dubai Finance Department announced the emirate raised another $5 billion by selling bonds — all taken by two banks controlled by Abu Dhabi.

    Abu Dhabi’s ruling Al Nahyan family has been more conservative with its spending, investing oil profits into infrastructure, culture and state institutions. During Dubai’s real estate bonanza, the Nahyans saw their flashy neighbor race ahead with development plans and tourism plans that had plenty of hype but few details on how they would be pulled off.

    Some did materialize. The more than 2,600-foot (800-meter) Burj Dubai is scheduled to open in January as the world’s tallest building. But many other projects, including a tower even taller than the Burj Dubai and satellite cities in the desert, are still just blueprints.

    The standstill will likely not immediately affect CityCenter, an $8.5 billion casino complex opening next month in Las Vegas that is half-owned by Dubai World. A Dubai World subsidiary and casino operator MGM Mirage agreed with banks in April to fully fund and finish the six-tower, 67-acre development of plush resorts, condominiums, a retail mall and one casino on the Las Vegas Strip.

    However, the standstill’s effect may be felt on the famous Keeneland thoroughbred horse auctions near Lexington, Ky., where Sheik Mohammed is a prominent bidder.

    Last week, Sheik Mohammed demoted several prominent members of Dubai’s corporate elite and replaced them with members of the ruling family, including his two sons, one of whom is Mohammed’s designated heir.

    Businessmen who fell out of favor were closely associated with Dubai’s phenomenal success. They include the head of Dubai World, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, and Mohammed Alabbar, the chief of Emaar Properties, developer of the Burj Dubai and hundreds of other projects.

    “He is trying to shake things up,” said Christopher Davidson, a lecturer on the Gulf at Britain’s Durham University and an author of two books on the UAE.

    However, Davidson added, Mohammed’s decision to replace those who helped put Dubai on the world map with his relatives might be “read as an increase in autocracy which does not look good internationally.”

    Not everyone is upset at Dubai Inc.’s transformation into a family business, analysts say.

    Mohammed’s latest moves may have pleased Abu Dhabi more than the foreign investors, but it is Abu Dhabi that still has the strongest incentives to save Dubai from its financial misery.

    “By shifting the power base back to the family things are as they should be as far as Abu Dhabi is concerned,” said Mohammed Shakeel, a Dubai-based analyst for the Economist Intelligence Unit.

    After an expensive adventure in doing things the Western way, it’s “going back to basics” for Dubai, Shakeel added.


  68. wbboei, did you read the WSJ article Obama’s bad golf (I linked to it on the other thread)? At NQ John Batchelor thought his golf outings were a ruse to hide his smoking.
    Also, it provides a convenient excuse to spend four hours of quality time with Soros crony Wolf (UBC) who is not much of a golfer either but knows how to carry messages.

    As far as his golf swing, he has the classic the faults of a rookie. Same problem with his day job. But Soros people (like Rham) are there to help guide him.

    Wont you tell him please
    To put on some speed
    Follow my lead
    Oh how I need
    Someone to watch over me.

  69. confloyd, it basically means, the worlds bankers stuffed and hid a shitload of money in Dubai and now its all up the creek, its the kickoff of economic meltdown part 2.

  70. And the article says he has been playing golf for the last 10 years..


    WOW…more experience at playing golf than being a leader. Yep, I guess the bots really knew what they were doing…NOT!

  71. The moral of Dubai is

    never let your children play in a sand-pit because animals crap in a sand pit, its a litter tray.

    Dubai is a sand-pit. Work it out.

  72. I guess gas will be going up on the unemployed middle class americans to pay for the bankers mistakes in Dubai.

  73. dija, I’m so sorry for your loss. Please accept my condolences.

    It’s wonderful to have you back, BTW!

    Also, here’s the only pic I’ve seen of Hillary in her state dinner gown. She looks great.


  74. confloyd
    November 26th, 2009 at 5:22 pm


    I agree. I would like to find out what the fallout of this means as well.

  75. Happy Thanksgiving, Big Pinkers:

    Obama’s Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage

    When he entered office, US President Barack Obama promised to inject US foreign policy with a new tone of respect and diplomacy. His recent trip to Asia, however, showed that it’s not working. A shift to Bush-style bluntness may be coming.

    There were only a few hours left before Air Force One was scheduled to depart for the flight home. US President Barack Obama trip through Asia had already seen him travel 24,000 kilometers, sit through a dozen state banquets, climb the Great Wall of China and shake hands with Korean children. It was high time to take stock of the trip.

    Barack Obama looked tired on Thursday, as he stood in the Blue House in Seoul, the official residence of the South Korean president. He also seemed irritable and even slightly forlorn. The CNN cameras had already been set up. But then Obama decided not to play along, and not to answer the question he had already been asked several times on his trip: what did he plan to take home with him? Instead, he simply said “thank you, guys,” and disappeared. David Axelrod, senior advisor to the president, fielded the journalists’ questions in the hallway of the Blue House instead, telling them that the public’s expectations had been “too high.”

    The mood in Obama’s foreign policy team is tense following an extended Asia trip that produced no palpable results. The “first Pacific president,” as Obama called himself, came as a friend and returned as a stranger. The Asians smiled but made no concessions.

    Lost Some Stature

    Upon taking office, Obama said that he wanted to listen to the world, promising respect instead of arrogance. But Obama’s currency isn’t as strong as he had believed. Everyone wants respect, but hardly anyone is willing to pay for it. Interests, not emotions, dominate the world of realpolitik. The Asia trip revealed the limits of Washington’s new foreign policy: Although Obama did not lose face in China and Japan, he did appear to have lost some of his initial stature.

    In Tokyo, the new center-left government even pulled out of its participation in a mission which saw the Japanese navy refueling US warships in the Indian Ocean as part of the Afghanistan campaign. In Beijing, Obama failed to achieve any important concessions whatsoever. There will be no binding commitments from China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. A revaluation of the Chinese currency, which is kept artificially weak, has been postponed. Sanctions against Iran? Not a chance. Nuclear disarmament? Not an issue for the Chinese.

    The White House did not even stand up for itself when it came to the question of human rights in China. The president, who had said only a few days earlier that freedom of expression is a universal right, was coerced into attending a joint press conference with Chinese President Hu Jintao, at which questions were forbidden. Former US President George W. Bush had always managed to avoid such press conferences.

    Relatively Unsuccessful

    A look back in time reveals the differences. When former President Bill Clinton went to China in June 1998, Beijing wanted to impress the Americans. A press conference in the Great Hall of the People, broadcast on television as a 70-minute live discussion, became a sensation the world over. Clinton mentioned the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, when the government used tanks against protestors. But then President Jiang Zemin defended the tough approach taken by the Chinese Communists. At the end of the exchange, the Chinese president praised the debate and said: “I believe this is democracy!”

    Obama visited a new China, an economic power that is now making its own demands. America should clean up its government finances, and the weak dollar is unacceptable, the head of the Chinese banking authority said, just as Obama’s plane was about to land.

    Obama’s new foreign policy has also been relatively unsuccessful elsewhere, with even friends like Israel leaving him high and dry. For the government of Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, peace is only conceivable under its terms. Netanyahu has rejected Obama’s call for a complete moratorium on the construction of settlements. As a result, Obama has nothing to offer the Palestinians and the Syrians. “We thought we had some leverage,” says Martin Indyk, a former ambassador to Israel under the Clinton administration and now an advisor to Obama. “But that proved to be an illusion.”

    Even the president seems to have lost his faith in a genial foreign policy. The approach that was being used in Afghanistan this spring, with its strong emphasis on civilian reconstruction, is already being changed. “We’re searching for an exit strategy,” said a staff member with the National Security Council on the sidelines of the Asia trip.

    ‘A Lot Like Jimmy Carter’

    An end to diplomacy is also taking shape in Washington’s policy toward Tehran. It is now up to Iran, Obama said, to convince the world that its nuclear power is peaceful. While in Asia, Obama mentioned “consequences” unless it followed his advice. This puts the president, in his tenth month in office, where Bush began — with threats. “Time is running out,” Obama said in Korea. It was the same phrase Bush used against former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, shortly before he sent in the bombers.

    There are many indications that the man in charge at the White House will take a tougher stance in the future. Obama’s advisors fear a comparison with former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, even more than with Bush. Prominent Republicans have already tried to liken Obama to the humanitarian from Georgia, who lost in his bid to win a second term, because voters felt that he was too soft. “Carter tried weakness and the world got tougher and tougher because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans, the dictators, when they sense weakness, they all start pushing ahead,” Newt Gingrich, the former Republican speaker in the House of Representatives, recently said. And then he added: “This does look a lot like Jimmy Carter.”


  76. And the article says he has been playing golf for the last 10 years..
    Okay, lets play it from that side of the fairway. Assuming arguedo that this is not just another prolific lie, and assuming arguendo that the plain meaning of playing golf for 10 years is that he played on a regular basis during that period—and still looks and plays like a rookie, then the only possible conclusion is that he told us the truth when he that for him experience does not matter–he is just as bad as the day he first picked up a golf club. By the same token he will be no better in the executive office three years from now than he is today. It is also like golf in the sense that if you triple bogey the first three holes its damned tough to get back to even at the turn. That is where that glass shafted scoring pencil with a big fat eraser comes in handy. Emnanuel knows all about that sort of thing.

  77. This damned thing is having a hell of an impact. I met with a maritime arbitrator and he says the longshore industry on the pacific northwes has dwindled from a seven day to a two day a week operation. It may be better in Longbeach San Pedro because that port serves the huge LA basin but it is still bad. I understand that the LTL industry is in real trouble and the two market leaders Roadway and Yellow Freight which merged five years ago are wanting the union to buy them out–or an esop program. FEDEX is struggling on the groundside and even UPS which has the biggest volume and the lowest costs in the industry is struggling. The problem in all cases is the same–no freight. This is all hearsay so it may not be entirely accurate, but I strongly suspect it is true/

    Hope, change, the one we have been waiting for.

  78. Well . . . it was bound to happen sooner or later. After one year in office we have finally found SOMETHING Obama does well. Those who heard him pardon a turkey were amazed at how good he was at it. Someone asked me how he could be so good at pardoning a turkey, and so bad at everything else a president is supposed to do. The answer is he has considerable experience pardoning a turkey namely himself.

  79. Admin,

    Thank you for hanging in there and continuing to supply the ammo. It’s a good fight we’re fighting.

  80. Looks like this Dubai thing is getting big, Asian markets are dropping. Today might really be black friday. It might prove to be bad today. Lets hope and pray our stock market hold up today.

  81. What the heck??? What about this???

    Gold tumbles as Dubai triggers stampede to dollars

    LONDON (Reuters) – Gold prices tumbled nearly 5 percent to a one-week low below $1,140 an ounce on Friday as investors fearing debt default in Dubai sought safety in dollars and cash.

    Other precious metals also slipped. Silver hit a two-week low of $17.66 an ounce, while platinum and palladium touched one-week lows of $1,418.50 and $351 an ounce respectively.

    Spot gold briefly hit a low of $1,136.80 a troy ounce, the lowest since November 16 and was bid at $1,161.55 an ounce at 1045 GMT from $1,192.60 on Thursday, when the precious metal hit $1,194.90 — a record high.

    “It’s mainly driven by this news out of Dubai (which) has had a large impact on risk appetite and resulted in a sharply stronger dollar,” said Daniel Major, a metals analyst at RBS Global Banking & Markets.

    Dubai said on Wednesday two flagship firms planned to delay repaying billions of dollars in debt. State-backed Dubai World has $59 billion of liabilities — a big chunk of the emirate’s total debt of $80 billion.

    That has raised the specter of default and triggered a sell-off of risky assets such as commodities and stocks.

    For graphic on risk assets click here

    Gold, a traditional safe haven, has also been sold because the higher dollar makes the precious metal more expensive for holders of other currencies.

    “Gold has not been spared the carnage — so much for its safe-haven status,” said David Thurtell, analyst at Citi.

    Many investors will also be selling gold, up more than 30 percent this year, to pay for losses elsewhere.

    “Margin calls might be playing a part here, particularly for Middle Eastern investors,” Thurtell said.


    But analysts say expectations of gold purchases by central banks in emerging markets will help buoy prices.

    Earlier this week the International Monetary Fund said it had sold 10 tonnes of gold to the Central Bank of Sri Lanka, adding the sale was part of the 403.3 tonnes approved by its executive board in September.

    The IMF has already sold 202 tonnes to the Reserve Bank of India and the Bank of Mauritius.

    “The central bank story is the one that has driven gold higher not just the dollar story,” Major said.

    Earlier this week the IMF declined to comment on a newspaper report which suggested India could buy more gold from the fund.

    Also driving gold are purchases by investors looking for a hedge against inflation that could be triggered by the vast amounts of money being pumped into the global economy by central banks and government around the world.

    That can be seen in the world’s largest gold-backed exchange-traded fund, SPDR Gold Trust, holding 1,127.860 tonnes as of November 25 and within touching distance of the record 1,134.03 tonnes seen on June 1.

    Spot silver was at $18.03 an ounce from $18.61 late in New York on Thursday, platinum at $1,434 an ounce from $1,452 and palladium at $357 an ounce from $368.

  82. Now also this! Gringos! Now we know why Soros is in Brazile, its to double dip the American taxpayer for his own gluteonous appetite for money and power. Sure Soros is trying to save the world while he sets himself up to be richer!

    MANAUS, Brazil – Brazil’s president said Thursday that “gringos” should pay Amazon nations to prevent deforestation, insisting rich Western nations have caused much more past environmental destruction than the loggers and farmers who cut and burn trees in the world’s largest tropical rain forest.

    President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva made the comments just before an Amazon summit in which delegates signed a declaration calling for financial help from the industrial world to halt the deforestation that causes global warming.

    “I don’t want any gringo asking us to let an Amazon resident die of hunger under a tree,” Silva said. “We want to preserve, but they will have to pay the price for this preservation because we never destroyed our forest like they mowed theirs down a century ago.”

    In Brazil, the word “gringo” does not only mean American, but generally refers to anyone from the northern hemisphere.

    Silva convened the meeting to form a unified position on deforestation and climate change for seven Amazon nations ahead of the Dec. 7-18 Copenhagen climate summit. But the only leaders who attended were Guyana’s Bharrat Jagdeo and France’s Nicolas Sarkozy, representing French Guiana, prompting top Silva aides and environmentalists to admit the gathering will have a muted impact.

    Other nations sent vice presidents or ministers, and the presidents of Colombia and Venezuela embarrassed Brazil by canceling at the last minute.

    Sarkozy supported a recent proposal by Silva to create a financial transaction tax that would be used to build a fund to help developing nations protect their forests. Details will be discussed in Copenhagen.

    Despite the lackluster summit showing, Silva aides said it was important to drive home a message that the Amazon is home to 30 million people, most of whom depend on the forest’s natural riches to eke out a living. About 25 million live in Brazil’s portion, which has about 60 percent of the Amazon, an area larger than Western Europe.

    “In Europe everyone has opinions about the Amazon, and there are people who think the Amazon is a zoo where you have to pay to enter,” said Marco Aurelio Garcia, Silva’s top foreign policy adviser. “They don’t know there are 30 million who work there.”

    Brazil has managed to reduce Amazon destruction to about 7,000 square kilometers (2,702 square miles) a year, the lowest level in decades. But that is still larger than the U.S. state of Delaware.

    The Brazilian Amazon is arguably the world’s biggest natural defense against global warming, acting as an absorber of carbon dioxide. But it is also a big contributor to warming because about 75 percent of Brazil’s emissions come from rainforest clearing, as vegetation burns and felled trees rot.

    Brazil has an incentive to protect the Amazon because the new global climate agreement is expected to reward countries for “avoided deforestation,” with cash or credits tradable on the global carbon market.

    Norway is making payments to give Brazil $1 billion by 2015 to preserve the Amazon rain forest, as long as Latin America’s largest nation keeps trying to stop deforestation.

    The nation was the first to supply cash to an Amazon preservation fund Brazilian officials hope will raise US$21 billion to protect nature reserves, to persuade loggers and farmers to stop destroying trees and to finance scientific and technological projects.

    Brazilian Environment Minister Carlos Minc has said Japan, Sweden, Germany, South Korea and Switzerland are considering donating to the fund.

  83. Looks like pay for play, Chicago style here in Texas. As soon as we elect the proper Governor we will get our contracts back, we will need to elect Farouk Shami. Looks like a Soros manipulation to me.

    Truck bid loss shows Texas may be losing leverage
    Perry trying to save Sealy plant’s contract after Pentagon gives it to Wisconsin
    Nov. 26, 2009, 11:15PMShare
    Print Share Del.icio.usDiggTwitterYahoo! BuzzFacebookStumbleUponWASHINGTON — The Pentagon’s decision to shift the production of Army trucks from Texas to Wisconsin after 17 years caught Texas’ elected officials by surprise, raising questions about overconfidence, a loss of political clout and the impact of economic incentives provided to the winning company by Wisconsin’s Democratic governor.

    Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry and the 34-member Senate-House delegation are rallying to salvage a deal for BAE Systems that could be worth $2.6 billion and sustain 10,000 direct and indirect jobs around the sprawling truck manufacturing plant in Sealy.

    But as one Democratic operative puts it: “That’s like having a party in the corral after all the horses have run out.”

    The 92-year-old Oshkosh Corp. undercut BAE Systems’ bid by roughly 10 percent. The Wisconsin company had support by a predominantly Democratic congressional delegation that helped Barack Obama carry the state last November. And the truck builder reaped the benefits of state assistance crafted by Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle.

    Elected officials in Texas assumed the contract would remain in their state, relied on networks of support built up during Republican control of the White House and Congress and did not provide BAE Systems any state assistance.

    Katherine Cesinger, Perry’s deputy press secretary, said BAE Systems “did not ask our office for any assistance prior to the recent decision.”

    “It sounds to me like complacency may be the biggest factor in Texas losing this contract,” says political scientist Paul Light of New York University. “The Army made a decision to give the contract to the lowest bidder. If I were an elected official from Texas, I’d stop whining and start asking questions about why Texas didn’t put up the dollars to help the company keep that contract.”

    The congressional watchdog, the Government Accountability Office, expects to decide by mid-December the outcome of BAE Systems’ appeal of the Army decision. The contract calls for production of 23,000 trucks and trailers over the next five years, starting with manufacturing 2,568 trucks for $281 million.

    Hoping for reversal
    “We are hopeful the government will reverse the decision in the interests of the U.S. military and the U.S. taxpayer,” says BAE spokesman Michael Teegardin.

    The setback for Texas illustrates just how far the state’s political leverage has plummeted since Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, D-Houston, helped BAE’s predecessor win the initial contract in 1991 under President George H.W. Bush, and Sens. Phil Gramm, R-College Station, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Dallas, helped the company retain the contract in 2001 under President George W. Bush.

    “We never saw this coming — we were completely blindsided,” says a top aide to Sen. John Cornyn, R-San Antonio, a former member of the Senate Armed Services Committee panel with jurisdiction over military vehicles.

    Lawmakers and BAE officials alike felt “sucker punched,” added David Davis, a top Hutchison aide. “ ‘Shocked’ doesn’t begin to describe it.”

    Not on the radar
    Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin, whose Austin-to-Houston district includes the plant, learned of the Army’s decision while driving to an appearance in his district in late August. He and press secretary Mike Rosen immediately diverted to visit BAE officials in Sealy.

    “In a time of war, terminating a relationship with a proven manufacturer does not seem to be a prudent choice,” McCaul subsequently wrote Defense Secretary Robert Gates in a letter signed by 25 members of Texas’ 32-member House delegation.

    One congressional aide said Texas lawmakers should have been more alert to the possibility of losing a contract that Oshkosh had tried to win in 2001. “It just wasn’t on anybody’s radar,” the aide said.

    Criticism by Democrats
    Some Texas Democrats have seized upon the lost contract to criticize GOP officials. “Job protection is really job No. 1 for a member of Congress,” says former Democratic Rep. Chris Bell, a former Houston City Council member who served one term in the House before losing in 2004.

    McCaul failed to enlist Democrats in Texas’ congressional delegation such as Rep. Chet Edwards, D-Waco, to help protect the contract in a Democratic administration, says Matt Angle, a longtime Democratic operative who heads the political action committee known as the Lone Star Project.

    Some members of Texas’ congressional delegation suspect political interference. There was “a political push that was inappropriate,” said one Senate aide. “Claiming this decision was based on the merits is laughable.”

    McCaul, a former Justice Department prosecutor and former Texas deputy attorney general, said Pentagon contracts should be awarded “based on quality, realistic cost and how quickly the product can get to our troops on the battlefield.”

    But Jay Kimmitt, head of the winning company’s Washington office, says Oshkosh won the contract on the merits without “inappropriate and unnecessary” intervention by the governor; Sens. Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold; or Rep. David Obey, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

    Ellis Brachman, spokesman for the House Appropriations Committee, said the powerful chairman played no role.

    “This was a case where Oshkosh has been building major trucks for a long time, and the military chose to go a different direction,” Obey’s spokesman said.

    Tax breaks
    The $35 million in tax breaks and the economic assistance provided Oshkosh over 12 years signal that “Wisconsin is open for business,” Doyle said. But the truck manufacturer says the assistance “did not make the difference” in the outcome of the bidding.

    Don Jarosz, spokesman for the Army command in Warren, Mich., which handles vehicle purchases, said headquarters would not comment on the contract or BAE Systems’ appeal.

    But Light, the political scientist, noted: “It doesn’t sound like Texas has much maneuvering room in the bid protest — a 10 percent difference in price is huge on a multibillion-dollar contract

  84. A potential “Tempest in a Teapot” coming Hillary’s way. She had better deal with it fast and step out of the way. Looks like BO is looking to get her credibility sandbagged.

    h… pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/

    And this article posted by JanH:

    The knives are out again…

    The Clintons aim to keep their worlds from colliding
    Potential conflicts of interest are issue for couple, critics say

    By Mary Beth Sheridan
    Thursday, November 26, 2009

    h… w… washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/25/AR2009112503877.html

    After seeing Obama giving Hillary the “Fisheye” (photo below)

    I believe what is happening in Pakistan will be compounded with other events eventually embaressing and blamed on Hillary.

    h…. farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/4134237281_4450343f5c.jpg

  85. Mrs. Smith, I will have to check it out later as that site is blocked now at work. Why, I don’t know. It wasn’t two weeks ago.

    I just got off of Atlas Shrugs and down thread she has some awful news about KFC offering Halal chicken in New York and alot of the KFC’s are Muslim owned. She also states that 6th graders are now being taught about the muslim religion and that the Obama administration has spies in Israel talking to those people who live in the settlements.
    OMG! I just can’t believe the audacity of this regime. Oh,BTW, his grannie from Kenya that is supposed to have been a Christian is a guest of the Saudi govt. in mecca. Apparently she is making her lifetime visit to the holy place. Lies and lies about this regime.

  86. About the turkey, did anyone else notice how OO put his hand over the turkey, like he was anointing him?? That might be protacal, but I thought it strange.

    About Dubai, I was amazed at how it was growing in leaps and bounds, and how the stars were investing in it. Brad and Angelic did, and I saw somewhere where Angelic now says that OO is smoke and mirrors. I think they endorsed him, did they not.

    I wonder how this crumbing will effect the American economy?

  87. confloyd
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Things are moving faster than one can imagine. The videos are key to understanding what Obama has planned for Hillary as far as her SOS duties as head of foreign policy. He’s going to say she’s known about the covert Blackwater activities and approved it… note in Madsen’s video he states the Cheney/Bush/Obama WH connection responsible for the covert Blackwater activities.

    She has to get out in front of this and burn the accusation to the ground before the media spins it all out of proportion.

    Jan’s article states the Republicans are becoming vociferous claiming conflict of interest with the Clinton Initiative and government involvement. Where the CGI is a non-profit corp and the meshing of the two through the State Dept is a conflict of interest…

  88. Kill the bills. Do health reform right.

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, November 27, 2009

    The United States has the best health care in the world — but because of its inefficiencies, also the most expensive. The fundamental problem with the 2,074-page Senate health-care bill (as with its 2,014-page House counterpart) is that it wildly compounds the complexity by adding hundreds of new provisions, regulations, mandates, committees and other arbitrary bureaucratic inventions.

    Worse, they are packed into a monstrous package without any regard to each other. The only thing linking these changes — such as the 118 new boards, commissions and programs — is political expediency. Each must be able to garner just enough votes to pass. There is not even a pretense of a unifying vision or conceptual harmony.

    The result is an overregulated, overbureaucratized system of surpassing arbitrariness and inefficiency. Throw a dart at the Senate tome:

    — You’ll find mandates with financial penalties — the amounts picked out of a hat.
    — You’ll find insurance companies (which live and die by their actuarial skills) told exactly what weight to give risk factors, such as age. Currently insurance premiums for 20-somethings are about one-sixth the premiums for 60-somethings. The House bill dictates the young shall now pay at minimum one-half; the Senate bill, one-third — numbers picked out of a hat.
    — You’ll find sliding scales for health-insurance subsidies — percentages picked out of a hat — that will radically raise marginal income tax rates for middle-class recipients, among other crazy unintended consequences.
    The bill is irredeemable. It should not only be defeated. It should be immolated, its ashes scattered over the Senate swimming pool.

    Then do health care the right way — one reform at a time, each simple and simplifying, aimed at reducing complexity, arbitrariness and inefficiency. First, tort reform. This is money — the low-end estimate is about half a trillion per decade — wasted in two ways. Part is simply hemorrhaged into the legal system to benefit a few jackpot lawsuit winners and an army of extravagantly rich malpractice lawyers such as John Edwards.

    The rest is wasted within the medical system in the millions of unnecessary tests, procedures and referrals undertaken solely to fend off lawsuits — resources wasted on patients who don’t need them and that could be redirected to the uninsured who really do. In the 4,000-plus pages of the two bills, there is no tort reform. Indeed, the House bill actually penalizes states that dare “limit attorneys’ fees or impose caps on damages.” Why? Because, as Howard Dean has openly acknowledged, Democrats don’t want “to take on the trial lawyers.” What he didn’t say — he didn’t need to — is that they give millions to the Democrats for precisely this kind of protection.

    Second, even more simple and simplifying, abolish the prohibition against buying health insurance across state lines. Some states have very few health insurers. Rates are high. So why not allow interstate competition? After all, you can buy oranges across state lines. If you couldn’t, oranges would be extremely expensive in Wisconsin, especially in winter. And the answer to the resulting high Wisconsin orange prices wouldn’t be the establishment of a public option — a federally run orange-growing company in Wisconsin — to introduce “competition.” It would be to allow Wisconsin residents to buy Florida oranges.

    But neither bill lifts the prohibition on interstate competition for health insurance. Because this would obviate the need — the excuse — for the public option, which the left wing of the Democratic Party sees (correctly) as the royal road to fully socialized medicine.

    Third, tax employer-provided health insurance. This is an accrued inefficiency of 65 years, an accident of World War II wage controls. It creates a $250 billion annual loss of federal revenue — the largest tax break for individuals in the entire federal budget. This reform is the most difficult to enact, for two reasons. The unions oppose it. And Barack Obama savaged the idea when John McCain proposed it during last year’s campaign. Insuring the uninsured is a moral imperative. The problem is that the Democrats have chosen the worst possible method — a $1 trillion new entitlement of stupefying arbitrariness and inefficiency.

    The better choice is targeted measures that attack the inefficiencies of the current system one by one — tort reform, interstate purchasing and taxing employee benefits. It would take 20 pages to write such a bill, not 2,000 — and provide the funds to cover the uninsured without wrecking both U.S. health care and the U.S. Treasury.


  89. Mrs. Smith & confloyd,

    I see that article about Hillary/Bill conflict of interest as being a direct result of the rumor that spread this last week about Hillary being V.P. for 2012. The rumor spread like wildfire to major television and newspaper outlets and the knives came out on both sides of the aisle.

  90. Mrs. Smith, well we knew he had something up his sleeve when he asked her to be his S.O.S. and now its bearing fruit, and of coarse those nasty ass republicans have always wanted to hang Hillary and Bill. Neither party has been able to get a single candidate on the caliber as Bill Clinton or able to do as much as they have. I think its jealousy as it was for Teddy. What a bunch of dirtbags. I will get off around 6:30 pm and will watch them as soon as I get home. I hope she’s getting out of there quickly, but she’s known for standing her ground in the face of overwhelming odds, she is unafraid of anything, I think more so than Bill. It was her that put the gravel in him to withstand the onslaught of the republican knives all these years. They just need to tell the american people what is really going on.

  91. The story bout Ted Kennedy and the Clinton healthcare is fascinating! I am renewing my call for this POS legislation, the Health Club for Men to be named Ted Kennedy’s bill. Deserved on so many levels!

  92. My prediction is either Obama will re-run or they will have a corrupt politician in the rethug party to take his place. The people of United States have been boondoggled into letting these crooks in power and it will be long time before we can get them out.
    I was watching David Horowitz last night. He was a red diaper baby, a founder of The New Left and marxist writer. He left the movement when a book keeper he recruited was murdered by the Black Panthers, and the New Left closed ranks to protect the murderer. I spent a day with him at a Republican fundraiser I chaired–before I became an independent. At that time, he was frustrated with the inability of the center right to recognize the terrible threat to our country, our freedom and our liberty posed by the New Left in general. The country club republicans were not alarmed and the grass roots were too invested in peripheral issues. He felt like Cassandra–able to foresee the future but unable to convince anyone that it was mortally serious. He does not scruple to call Barack Hussein Obama what he is–the MOST RADICAL PRESIDENT in history, and the most ANTI-ISRAELI. And he believes the American People are finally waking up to the threat he has been warning about for years. Horowitz says when you can get 1 million people to march on Washington that is a megapolitical event, and the left (including corporate media) has awakened a sleeping giant. He sees a landslide victory for the Republicans next year if they can field good candidates. If I am right, the trajectory of Obamas presidency will be similar to that of a V-2 rocket. The most beloved President in history as of 2008 will become the most despised president by 2012–as he buries our nation in debt and destroys our culture. I hope the people also wise up about the Soros connection because that is the critical element in the equation. But if it works out the way I think it will then those who invested all their hopes and dreams in this guy will be marked for life–and it will be harmful to other black candidates. Hell, maybe I am wrong about this and it will all turn out to be Nirvana–but I dont think so. One thing you will see if there are close elections is the left will engage in civil disobedience in support of Obama. I think he will take the party down with him–and maybe that has to happen for a new party responsive to the American People can re emerge. But the only way to have any hope of a happy ending is for Big Media to go down in flames as well. They are the puss pocket of evil here and if Obama did not exist they would have to invent him. The American People need to avoid them like small pox.

  93. The only thng wrong with the Horowitz scenario is he hasn’t moved past the either or political Party as the Party of choice in 2012.

    No-one I know is going to vote Republican because the Democrats are, if possible, even more corrupt than the Republicans who are standing by helping/watching the country go down the tubes.

    My post at:

    Mrs. Smith
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    is proof of that- No, the combined agenda, the R’s and the D’s, are to begin taking Hillary (and Bill) down as the People choice as a serious contender for the WH in 2012 starting now-

    I hope she see this for what it is and deals with it accordingly realizing the War has begun on her future candidacy for president if in fact she intends to run.

  94. Both parties are corrupt, they are in this together to get the country where the power brokers want it. I think the American people aren’t going to vote rethug this time just because we now have found out that the dims are as corrupt as the rethugs, come on folks Washington is full of shit. We need new blood which is Hillary. She hasn’t been in office as a political candidate except in the senate. Her time as first lady doesn’t count.

  95. By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, November 27, 2009

    The United States has the best health care in the world — but because of its inefficiencies, also the most expensive.


    Most expensive perhaps, but not the best iirc. I’ve seen comparative figures showing other countries with longer life expectancies, shorter wait times for care, fewer disabilities, etc etc.

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