Bullets Fly In The Democratic Civil War

The latest abortion fight on health care reminds us of how we got to this point in America – with “progressives” claiming women must once again suffer for the “greater good”. The fake, “progressives in name only” (PINOs), with their lurid arguments against equality still denigrate women in order to promote and protect Barack Obama and the ugly Obama situation comedy coalition which these disgusting PINOs are a party to.

In April of 2008, as Dean/Obama/Brazile/Pelousy/Kennedy plotted to gift Obama the nomination and deny the Democratic grassroots the determinative voice in selecting the Democratic Party nominee for President,
we predicted a Democratic Party civil war.

By May 2008, we stated that the Democratic Civil War was on. We wrote then, “It is a war that must be fought.” On Memorial Day 2008 we not only wrote “The Civil War has begun”, we spoke to the sexism that was apparent and pervasive in the Democratic Party. We quoted some good writings which discussed the situation. Kristen Breitweiser

Those who are responsible for putting Democrats in the broken place we are in right now with regard to Barack Obama had better own it to the end. Leave those bumper stickers on and wear those campaign pins until the bitter end folks because YOU OWN IT. And people are going to want to know whose [sic] to blame.

The London Times:

Yet the excoriation of Hillary – under the cover of Clinton-bashing – raises the question of whether America could elect any woman at all. A country self-flagellating about its racial fissure has basked in its own misogyny. Racism is a proper injustice after all, sexism a Vaudevillian amusement. And so the “Bros not Hos” T-shirts depicting Obama (the black brother) and Hillary (the whore) are simply a blast. The Hillary Clinton novelty nutcrackers, on sale in American airports, are just frat-boy joshing, while a crude racial novelty item – perhaps a mammoth Obama pepper grinder to indicate the stereotypical size of the black male organ – is unlikely to have a patent pending.

Those who heckled Hillary with “iron my shirts” would be indicted or lynched if they barracked Obama with “bus my table” or “shine my shoes”. And it may be his slip of the tongue, “a bad habit”, as he says, to call a female reporter “sweetie” – although what might it be if Hillary called a black writer “boy”? – but did the journalist herself deserve to be branded a “bitch” or a “fat slob” merely for taking umbrage?

When the Democratic convention trashed Hillary votes by nominating Obama, Hillary supporters and many, many, Democratic women prepared to vote against Obama. The Democratic Party and Barack Obama, which hitherto paid little to no attention to women then began to wave the red flag of abortion rights and the Supreme Court to get Hillary supporters to debase ourselves and vote for Obama. Here at Big Pink we would not fall for the abortion red flag ploy. We wrote about how women had been ignored but now were being played for fools:

Now, Obama supporters and Democrats appear only to be concerned about Women. Hillary supporters are told: ‘The Supreme Court, Oh, The Supreme Court, Think of the Supreme Court and abortion and blah, blah blah’.

Women are expected to only care about abortion – not their self respect.

The cries for “Unity” are heard in abundance, in full shout, from those that sowed the seeds of division. However, the seeds of division have borne a bumper crop this year.

Democrats like Obama/Dean/Brazille/Pelosi think they can wave the red flag of ‘Supreme Court’ or ‘Abortion’ and women will come running to the aid of the Democratic? Party and forget the misogyny Obama/Dean/Brazille/Pelosi never spoke against while Hillary and her supporters were belittled and denigrated.

We debunked those arguments and demanded respect for women and for equality. We made it clear that we did not trust Obama, nor Dimocrats, on women’s issues nor on abortion rights, nor on Supreme Court appointments. Now the same Democrats/PINOs/Hopium addled boobs that declared abortion rights as the be all and end all, want to convince Democrats and women that abortion rights and equality should be cast aside for the greater good.

In 2008, Dimocrats said “vote because abortion rights are so important”, but in 2009 the argument is “suck it up, abortion rights are not so important”.

This time we Hillary supporters are not alone in noticing the Dimocratic and Big Blog Boys PINO hypocrisies. And open warfare after a preparatory period, with shooting, heralds the Democratic Civil War.

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The boy PINOs, and they are boys, at Move-On are running attack ads attacking Democrats who voted “no” on the Obamination health scam. The boys at PINO Move-On do not care about women’s equality rights. No surprise here about those Obama-loving boys.

While the boys of Move-On attack Dimocrats we have congressional Dimocrats who voted FOR the Obamination (now they claim to have 41 votes who this time really mean it, already committed, again) echoing John Kerry. “I voted FOR it, before I voted AGAINST it” say the Dimocrats.

As we wrote in our last article, who is going to believe the useless “pro-choice caucus” or the “progressive bloc” and their latest threats? They voted FOR the Obamination. Now they stomp their feet and say “next, I’ll vote AGAINST”. Imagine the ads “I voted FOR it, before I voted AGAINST it”.

The “progressive bloc” and the “pro-choice caucus” betrayed their own constituencies just like Gay-American “leaders” betrayed their own and just like some Jewish “leaders” betray their own and just like abortion rights groups (think NARAL endorsing do nothing newbie Obama over always there Hillary) betrayed their own. They are all boobs who will defend Obama and throw away all of the few principles they give lip service to.

These useless fools are now making even more not credible threats:

We will not vote for a conference report that contains language that restricts women’s right to choose any further than current law.

As if anyone believes them they say this foolishness.

The remaining Hopium guzzling boobs of the “creative class” will be the only ones who believe these empty threats. Representative Diana DeGette, as we wrote previously, now tells the Washington Post that she will abort the Obamination unless women are only oppressed as they are currently. Possibly DeGette and Slaughter will hold their breaths and turn purple but no thinking person can possibly believe these clowns.

Meanwhile the gay Hillary haters who trashed Hillary and Bill Clinton while they fellated Obama now want to organize a gaycott or boycott or something (these boobs call it a “pause”) which is too little too late. Until and unless these boobs realize that Obama must be removed from office or at the minimum removed as a 2012 candidate the problem will not go away. The problem is Obama and his situation comedy coalition.

Here is a list of boobs who led Democrats astray and continue to shamelessly promote themselves as “leaders”, but are the ones responsible for continued support of Obama:

Joe and I are launching today a donor boycott of the DNC. The boycott is cosponsored by Daily Kos, Jane Hamsher of FireDogLake, Dan Savage, Michelangelo Signorile, David Mixner, Andy Towle and Michael Goff of Towle Road, Paul Sousa (Founder of Equal Rep in Boston), Pam Spaulding, Robin Tyler (ED of the Equality Campaign, Inc.), Bil Browning for the Bilerico Project, and soon others.

It’s really more of a “pause,” than a boycott. Boycotts sounds so final, and angry. Whereas this campaign is temporary, and is only meant to help some friends – President Obama and the Democratic party – who have lost their way. We are hopeful that via this campaign, our friends will keep their promises.

So please sign the Petition and take a Pledge to no longer donate to the DNC, Organizing for America, or the Obama campaign until the President and the Democratic party keep their promises to the gay community, our families, and our friends.

These Hillary haters and Obama enablers need to be removed from the debate. They think they are cute with their simpering “pause”. They are Obama loving boobs who have led the once great Democratic Party astray and plunged the nation into the abyss by supporting Obama. These fake gay “leaders” betrayed their constituency when they supported gay-basher Obama and continue to betray with their fake “pause” and their fake outrage.

At the Hopium drunk booby hatch we call “Nothing Left” the excuse machine is working overtime. But the Hopium boozehounds are not taking the nonsense with their usual glee, if the comments are to be believed. This comment gets to the point:

Don’t people realize that unless the progressive movement decisively breaks with its slavish devotion to Saint Obama and the Democratic Party, we’ll never get our country out of this mess? Now is not the time to congratulate these hacks, now is the time to get angry!

Some are even beginning to question the boys on the blogs:

what is the use of the progressive blogosphere if it merely echoes what the Beltway Democrats say and think?

If those who run those blogs merely mouth the conventional wisdom, what is gained? Only another voice in an already too-crowded echo chamber.

The only way these blogs can be useful is if they are informed and skeptical analysts of the stream of information/disinformation that our politicians shower us with daily. If they become simply another establishment outlet disseminating the same stuff, they become useless.

I appreciate your efforts on this issue, but this diary goes in the wrong direction.

Too late. The Big Blog boys have been an echo-chamber of Big Media Hillary hate since 2007. The source of ire for that comment was a ludicrous article by the ludicrous Mike Lux who persists in the defense of flim-flam Obama. The article was so ludicrous it was roundly mocked and jeered. Even in the Nothing Left dens, the Hopium guzzlers are falling off the tree.

This comment in response to ludicrous Mike Lux gets to the heart of the matter even as it is met with Hopium addled ignorance and misinformation:

Clinton would’ve stood up for us. That’s the difference. She knows how to fight.

We expect Hillary to continue to bide her time and continue to be a “team player” but we cannot wait for the day she breaks out of her gilded cage and tells the truth.

Along with the typical Hillary hate and Obama love at Nothing Left, some are not only questioning their “leaders” but they are ever so slowly beginning to realize the Big Blog Boys have sold them out. Now there is even open mockery of the “progressive bloc” by the creative class minions who are learning they were flim-flammed and taught to tolerate misogyny and the savaging of a true Democrat – Hillary Clinton – in order to oppress the nation with the flim-flam man from Chicago.

Funny, I don’t read much anymore about the Progressive Bloc at OpenLeft. Cat got your tongues?

These Big Blog Boys are the boobs that bark for donations to the “progressive bloc” of do-nothing boob Dimocrats. These Big Blog Boys are the boobs who attacked Blue Dog Democrats and Republican Joe Wilson for calling Obama a liar – then immediately turned their attentions to raising over a million dollars for the Blue Dog that will run against and be beaten by Joe Wilson. These are boobs, plain and simple – boy boobs who call themselves the “creative class”.

In another bullet flying on the Big Boy Blog called Nothing Left one commenter gets it that the Obama health insurance scam is an Obamination that demands defeat. This comment comes from the “creative class” boobs who now realize the Big Blog Boy “leaders” who hated Hillary are boobs or worse:

The bill sucks, okay. The bill sucks. We aren’t talking about demanding perfection. We are talking about a bill that, in many ways, is worse than the current situation. [snip]

Good negotiation requires credibility. The Congressional Progressive Caucus drew a line in the sand, demanding a robust public option. They didn’t get it. Then they voted for the bill anyway. Way to flush your credibility down the toilet. Maybe Lux doesn’t have much experience in negotiation, but I can assure people that empty threats are a big no-no.

How bad is the Obamination? Another (possibly former) Hopium guzzler explains:

My sentiments echo those of Marcia Angell, M.D. Physician, Author, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Medical School, per her article on Huffington Post this morning:

“Well, the House health reform bill — known to Republicans as the Government Takeover — finally passed after one of Congress’s longer, less enlightening debates. Two stalwarts of the single-payer movement split their votes; John Conyers voted for it; Dennis Kucinich against. Kucinich was right.

Conservative rhetoric notwithstanding, the House bill is not a “government takeover.” I wish it were. Instead, it enshrines and subsidizes the “takeover” by the investor-owned insurance industry that occurred after the failure of the Clinton reform effort in 1994. To be sure, the bill has a few good provisions (expansion of Medicaid, for example), but they are marginal. It also provides for some regulation of the industry (no denial of coverage because of pre-existing conditions, for example), but since it doesn’t regulate premiums, the industry can respond to any regulation that threatens its profits by simply raising its rates. The bill also does very little to curb the perverse incentives that lead doctors to over-treat the well-insured. And quite apart from its content, the bill is so complicated and convoluted that it would take a staggering apparatus to administer it and try to enforce its regulations.

What does the insurance industry get out of it? Tens of millions of new customers, courtesy of the mandate and taxpayer subsidies. And not just any kind of customer, but the youngest, healthiest customers — those least likely to use their insurance. The bill permits insurers to charge twice as much for older people as for younger ones. So older under-65’s will be more likely to go without insurance, even if they have to pay fines. That’s OK with the industry, since these would be among their sickest customers. (Shouldn’t age be considered a pre-existing condition?)

Insurers also won’t have to cover those younger people most likely to get sick, because they will tend to use the public option (which is not an “option” at all, but a program projected to cover only 6 million uninsured Americans). So instead of the public option providing competition for the insurance industry, as originally envisioned, it’s been turned into a dumping ground for a small number of people whom private insurers would rather not have to cover anyway.

If a similar bill emerges from the Senate and the reconciliation process, and is ultimately passed, what will happen?

First, health costs will continue to skyrocket, even faster than they are now, as taxpayer dollars are pumped into the private sector. The response of payers — government and employers — will be to shrink benefits and increase deductibles and co-payments. Yes, more people will have insurance, but it will cover less and less, and be more expensive to use.

But, you say, the Congressional Budget Office has said the House bill will be a little better than budget-neutral over ten years. That may be, although the assumptions are arguable. Note, though, that the CBO is not concerned with total health costs, only with costs to the government. And it is particularly concerned with Medicare, the biggest contributor to federal deficits. The House bill would take money out of Medicare, and divert it to the private sector and, to some extent, to Medicaid. The remaining costs of the legislation would be paid for by taxes on the wealthy. But although the bill might pay for itself, it does nothing to solve the problem of runaway inflation in the system as a whole. It’s a shell game in which money is moved from one part of our fragmented system to another.

This comment demonstrates that women are putting down the Obama Hopium teat held by Big Blog Boys:

F*ck You, Mr. Lux

The Stupak Amendment is not symbolic. It’s the worst blow to women’s reproductive freedom in over a generation. So it may be no more than mere collateral damage to you, but it’s my body and the bodies of 51% of the nation that are being played as a political football. So to quote Ving Rhames in Pulp Fiction “I’m pretty f*cking far from okay.”

So really, f*ck you and f*ck the two bit f*cking horse you rode in on. You want eloquence on this subject, my husband jeff is the guy to go to. I don’t have it in me anymore.

(asterisks added by Big Pink).

We have to remove the “u” from those four letter words, but otherwise some of the Hopium guzzlers are sounding increasingly like Big Pink or even Tea Party people in recognizing the Dimocrats and Obama are a flim-flam operation. The Hopium guzzlers at Nothing Left even seem to remember the town hall lies told by Dimocrats:

Just a month ago, my congressperson held a much-belated town hall meeting where she repeatedly assured nearly 1000 people in attendance (most of whom were there testifying, demanding, clapping and hooting on behalf of some sort of single payer/Medicare for all, by the way!) that we could rest assured about the House…the House was our friend. The House would produce a bill with a truly robust public option…the House would counter the disappointment of the Senate and Baucus with a plan that would serve all Americans well. The House would take care of the people–not big insurance, not big pharma–but the people by taking to conference the strongest possible public option.

As I think back to that, I’m nearly shaking with rage at what has just happened–thanks to our “friend, the House.”

And from you, we get the utterly offensive message –really gross as a matter of fact–that we should understand and learn to appreciate the most regressive sell-out of women in my lifetime (a sell-out orchestrated by the goddamn Democratic leadership--headed up by a woman from San Francisco no less–to rack up the last couple of votes for a bill that was called here last night “watered down, watered down, watered down”) because it wasn’t really a sell-out of women after all. No it was just the necessary casting of women–especially poor, desperate women– as political footballs to pass a lame bill that is, lest we forget is “watered down, watered down, watered down.” Hey, just the nature of the beast, you say.

And then, as if all this wasn’t enough the folks you actually manage to condemn the strongest, the ones you are truly “appalled by,” are the two progressive House Democrats who actually, you know, voted as progressive House Democrats. My god…I have no words for this.

At this point, Progressive Caucus is a joke. The Democratic party is a joke. And the Health Insurance industry is having the laugh of its life.

This is the most infuriatingly obsequious post I’ve ever read on Openleft. How utterly disappointed and saddened I am that you thought to post this.

[And remember how the “creative class” attacked war-monger Hillary and praised that peace loving god Barack Obama? Now these “creative class” boobs will swallow as 100,000 troops are in Afghanistan during election year 2012.]

We went into the Hopium drenched cesspools in our Pink waders so our readers did not have to. We found the analysis at Mother Jones of Obama’s health care scam and the abortion rights outrage in The Price of Health Reform: Abortion Rights?

We re-read the moot paragraphs and Obama style flowery words of the Democratic Party plank on abortion. We read at FireDogLake the anger even among Hopium guzzlers there who realize the health care scam is an Obamination:

I don’t understand celebrating this pile of dung. Sure, pre-existing conditions can no longer be denied. Great. Now the fun part. When the insurance companies have to start covering all these things they weren’t covering before, um, well, guess what happens to premiums? And especially guess what happens to them when there is no PO (or one like this one that is pile of shit), well the premiums are going to go up more.

This bill does NOTHING except make the insurance companies cover people and procedures they didn’t before, but makes sure they get paid handsomely for doing so. OK, the subisides for folks to buy that insurance I’ll agree is a plus, but it would’ve been a bigger plus had they been able to use those subsidies on a real, viable, strong PO.

Oh, and then there’s the Stupid amendment. I’ll bet anyone now that if a health insurance bill is signed by Obama, it WILL include the Stupid amendment.

I know it wasn’t Jane’s fault (bless her for all of her hard work), but the fact remains, we had a PLEDGE from progressives to vote NO, and I gave to that pledge as did thousands of others. The next time a fund like that is set up, how likely do you think it’s going to be we give again?? I know the answer for me. In fact, I want my $100 back.

Sorry folks, I’m NOT celebrating. I hope this bill DIES, and they either start over next year with single payer or nationalize the elections on that issue next year.


With respect to “compromise” being necessary to address “political realities” in getting any bill passed, I think that, instead of the perfect being the enemy of the good, which proponents of this bill would tell us, we have something neither perfect, nor good, but simply bad. [snip]

The “change” hoax is being exposed. The national political leadership of the Democratic Party is being exposed. The myth of the populism of the “liberal feminist” figures like Pelosi is being exposed. That is the only silver lining in what otherwise looks like the last chance for a very long time to get a good health care system founded being squandered to cater to plutocratic interests and election PR.

In the Democratic Civil War a great many Hopium guzzlers will soon be imitating John Kerry and saying “I voted for Obama, before I voted against Obama.”

The damage however is done. Those who put aside principles and logic to attack Hillary and enable Obama are responsible for Obama and they are the ones who must take the bullet for the Obamination America faces today.