The World Series: The Hillary Clinton Coalition Versus The Barack Obama Coalition, Part II

Update: Confusion reigns among Obama supporters. At FireDogLake and the DailyKooks they are purposefully confusing the Democratic “base” with the Obama coalition. We wrote about the “Situation Comedy” demographics of the Obama coalition which excluded old people as a useless bunch.

FireDogLake anticipates defeat in Virginia and trys to exculpate the 2008 support for Obama by mixing “base” wth “Obama coalition. Memo to the Hopium addled – you guys were the ones who laughed at old people and talked about that “new” coalition of young, black, and liberal rich which would lead to the thousand year Obama reich. FireDogLake:

Some have compared this year’s election to the 1993 election that served as a preview for what would happen in 1994. I actually think things are a little bit worse. In the 1992 election, senior citizens were one of the best voting blocks for Bill Clinton–and of course seniors have excellent voting patterns and represent a larger share of the electorate in low turnout mid-term elections. That helped save a number of Democrats in 1994–like Lawton Chiles in the Florida Governor’s race. But in 2008, seniors were one of the groups with which Barack Obama struggled. The strongest groups for Democrats in 2008 were voters under the age of 30 and minority voters. Also known as the two groups whose participation historically falls in midterm elections. In Virginia this year, one poll showed the percentage of the likely electorate under the age of 30 falling 70% from 2008–and the African American share of the vote falling 39% from 2008! That’s why virtually every poll has shown today’s likely electorate as having voted for John McCain by double digits over Barack Obama in Virginia last year–despite Virginia having voted almost exactly the reverse.

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Big Media is working overtime again to protect Obama. Tonight, as election results are tallied, Big Media will pump out justifications to absolve Barack Obama and his situation comedy coalition of “younger,” “urban” (meaning “black”), and wealthy suburban liberal whites.

Dana Milbank started to circle the wagons with the argument that tonight’s results are or are not a referendum on Obama depending on whether the observer is an Obama fan. Milbank protects Obama by making a negative assessment of Obama by the voters as a question of bias on the part of the analyst.

Milbank is wrong. There are a lot of data and facts which tonight’s election results will provide that allow us to analyze the strength of the Obama situation comedy coalition versus the Hillary Clinton/FDR coalition.

Big Media is also attempting to protect Obama by distorting the New York 23rd district race as a disaster for Republicans because conservatives successfully eliminated a liberal Republican (who has endorsed the Democrat!) as a contender. We argued that conservatives are teaching liberals how to act when faced with candidates they don’t like force-fed to them (like Obama in 2008) by the party hierarchy.

Instead of praise for conservatives who acted against ideological opponents gaining the Republican ballot line, Big Media labels this as somehow dangerous for Republicans. But attacks by Democrats against Democrats like Senator Joe Lieberman and Democratic “Blue Dogs” are fluffed as righteous – Republicans angry with apostate liberal Republicans are viewed as somehow rabid and dangerous. The anger multiples on Big Boy Blogs because conservatives are successful (and targeting an additional dozen races) and active while Big Boy Blogs failed to replace Lieberman with Ned Lamont and instead Lieberman and the Blue Dogs grow stronger.

Dimocrats and Obama also continue to stab Gay-Americans in the back, particularly in Maine, but Big Media has been silent because Gay-Americans are not part of the Obama coalition. Foolish Gay-Americans gave money to gay-basher Barack Obama and ignored the marriage fight in Maine. Foolish Gay-Americans will continue to support gay-basher Barack Obama and his OAFs (Organizing for America which used to be Obama for America which we call OAF) even as Obama and his OAFs drain Maine to bolster New Jersey.

That’s right – Obama and his OAFs are asking Maine activists to leave Maine today and the Maine marriage fight in order to rescue John Corzine in New Jersey. Gay-Americans who continue to support gay-basher Obama, or those who (Hillary hater John Aravosis) supported Obama deserve what they get.

“Drain Maine” says Obama, those Gays don’t matter. Old people are not part of the Obama coalition (the elderly are part of the Hillary/FDR coalition) either even though he needed those old people votes in 2008. White people, unless they are young or liberals or financially well-off are not part of the Obama situation comedy coalition either. Those “bitter” and “clingy” white people are showing more sense than (black and white) Gay-Americans because the “bitter” and the “clingy” are at least realizing they are not wanted in the Obama coalition and Obama’s sweet words were just a ruse to get their votes away from Hillary.

In Iowa “bitter” and “clingy” white people are regretting their Obama flim-flammed votes:

Pauline McAreavy voted for President Obama. From the moment she first saw him two years ago, she was smitten by his speeches and sold on his promise of change. She switched parties to support him in the Iowa caucuses, donated money and opened her home to a pair of young campaign workers.

But by the time she received a fund-raising letter last month from the Democratic National Committee, a sense of disappointment had set in. She returned the solicitation with a handwritten note, saying: “Until I see some progress and he lives up to his promises in Iowa, we will not give one penny.”

I’m afraid I wasn’t realistic,” Ms. McAreavy, 76, a retired school nurse, said on a recent morning on the deck of her home here in east-central Iowa.

“I really thought there would be immediate change,” she said. “Sometimes the Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. But it’s politics as usual, and that’s what I voted against.”

There’s no fool, like an old fool. There were a lot of fools in Iowa 2008.

Interviews with voters across Iowa offer a window into how the president’s standing has leveled out, especially among the independents and Republicans who contributed not just to his margin of victory in the caucuses here but also to the optimism among his supporters that his election would be a break from standard-issue politics.

For Democrats, the immediate peril of failing to hang on to some of these swing voters could play out Tuesday in the governor’s race in Virginia, a state Mr. Obama wrested away from Republicans last year, but where the Democratic candidate for governor has struggled to reprise Mr. Obama’s enthusiastic coalition.

In Iowa, Ms. McAreavy fears that the president’s health care plan will shortchange her Medicare benefits and mean infrequent mammogram examinations. She worries that his decision on Afghanistan will mean that her son, a member of the Iowa National Guard, will return to the battlefield. And she believes too many of Mr. Obama’s actions are rooted in Democratic politics.

“All my Republican friends — and independents — are sitting back saying, ‘Oh, what did we do?” Ms. McAreavy said. “I’m not to that point yet, but a lot of people are.”

There’s no fool, like an old fool – especially when up against a master flim-flam man from Chicago. They were never part of the Obama coalition, he just needed their votes to get him by and now they are “under the bus” and realize there is something rather heavy squishing them.

But an erosion of support from independents and disapproval from Republicans suggests that the coalition Mr. Obama built to win the White House is frayed. [snip]

A social studies teacher who saw Mr. Obama on his maiden trip here wonders whether momentum from the election is gone forever. A retired electrical engineer who became a Democrat to support Mr. Obama believes the president too often blames others for his troubles. And a teacher who voted for Mr. Obama because she was fed up with George W. Bush does not trust this administration any more than the previous one.

Time after time in 2007, we wrote that Obama blamed everyone for everything, but himself. It was always “blame the staff” time for Obama. And we were the first to say Obama Is The Third Bush Term. Now, old fools in Iowa, bamboozled by their grandchildren or by Obama himself, realize they indeed are fools.

As a candidate, Mr. Obama soared, several people said in interviews, but as a president, he often has come across as cautious, tentative and prone to blame his troubles on others.

“I think he was more presidential when he was running for office than he is now,” said Paul Johnson, 58, a student legal services lawyer at Iowa State University. “He seems more subdued, which is probably a result of having to actually deal with the issues on his plate as opposed to just rallying the troops to vote for him.”

Mr. Johnson and his wife, Kathy, are loyal Democrats, but Mr. Obama was not their first, second or third choice during the Iowa caucuses that opened the party’s primary on Jan. 3, 2008. At the time, they favored, in order, John Edwards, Joseph R. Biden or Hillary Rodham Clinton. When Mr. Obama won the nomination, however, they eagerly supported him, and now they say they believe he is doing well, but often wonder if he is assertive enough.

It’s overdue for him to actually take charge here,” said Ms. Johnson, 57, a social worker in the town of Nevada. [snip]

“Given all the situations that he’s dealing with — the economy and the war — I think it’s going to take some work,” said Ms. Schmieder, who had never been involved in politics, but said she was drawn to Mr. Obama by his books.

As Mr. Obama approaches the anniversary of his election, the sense of possibility and the dash of romance that moved many voters are no longer apparent. The challenges of governing have eaten away at the optimism. The pace of government intervention also has jarred many voters.

John Sager, a retired electrical engineer, said he was so impressed by Mr. Obama at the United Auto Workers hall in Marshalltown last year that he allowed his name to be promoted on a list of Republicans supporting Mr. Obama before the Iowa caucuses.

“He gave a fairly decent presentation, but that’s what it turned out to be — a presentation,” said Mr. Sager, 77. “I don’t think he should keep hiding behind the fact that he inherited all these problems.”

Kathy Shaffer, 60, a retired school teacher, did not tell her husband, Larry, a staunch Republican, that she had she voted for Mr. Obama until recently. She said she had been frustrated by the Iraq war, fed up with the Bush administration and eager for a change.

Now, she said she regretted her vote, largely because she disapproved of how the government had intervened to help failing financial institutions and car companies. She also fears that Mr. Obama will send more troops to Afghanistan.

“I want to be a Republican domestically and probably a Democrat on foreign policy — I’m in a lose-lose situation,” Ms. Shaffer said.

Imagine, voting for a candidate because you like his books! There is no fool like an old fool.

The problem for Obama is that old fools can learn new tricks. Old fools can learn from mistakes.

We suspect, today, a lot of old fools are about to start fixing their mistake in 2008.

Part III tomorrow. We’ll discuss the real goal in election 2010 (hint: census) and the mistake in 2008 that rejected the winning and growing Hillary FDR coalition.

Tune in tonight for election results.

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234 thoughts on “The World Series: The Hillary Clinton Coalition Versus The Barack Obama Coalition, Part II

  1. Good luck Acorn – this just in

    jimgeraghty

    as of noon, trusted sources says total turnout in GOP & swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts.

    33 minutes ago from TweetDeck

    looks like Corzine is going to go down in flames.

  2. In New Jersey, Turnout Higher In GOP and Swing Districts Than In Democrats

    I want to preface this by noting that all of this is based only on the early voting, and is based on about a half-dozen polling places in every county in New Jersey; some known as historically Republican districts, some known as historically swing districts, and some known as historically Democratic districts.

    A trusted source tells me that as of noon, total turnout in the GOP the swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts. The turnout ratio is not quite two to one, but it’s not that far from it.

    Now, this should NOT be interpreted as ipso facto evidence that Chris Christie is going to win. Democratic districts may have more voters show up later in the day. This isn’t an exit poll, and we have no idea how the folks in any of these districts are voting; we just know that they’re showing up and voting.

    But, as of this morning, turnout was higher Republican areas of the state than in Democratic ones, and that has to make Chris Christie and his supporters feel like they’re doing their jobs well…

    UPDATE: I have a bit more detail now. Again, this is based strictly on the morning turnout, and there’s the afternoon and evening turnout could look completely different.

    The two heaviest turnout counties are Hunterdon, which McCain carried by 13.3 percent over Barack Obama, and Morris County, which McCain carried by 8.1 percent.

    The phenomenon is not uniform; Union Country’s turnout is described as above Ocean’s, and Obama carried Union by 27 percent; Ocean County’s turnout is described as “good,” and McCain carried that county by 18 percent.

    Hudson County and Essex County were described as “light.” Hudson County is heavily Democratic, with Obama carrying it by 46 percent last year; he carried Essex County with 75 percent of the vote.

    Salem County’s turnout is described as “unbelievably sleepy”; Obama carried that county by 4 percent.

  3. Thanks for the information MoonOnPluto. Lots of anecdotal evidence piling up that Dimocrats/Obama will be punished today.

  4. Just saying, quite a turn around…from American Thinker
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    November 03, 2009
    Al Gore, the first ‘carbon billionaire’ (updated)
    Douglas Lang

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    Why is it a nasty turnaround for the American Thinker to print a nasty hit piece about Gore? Their faction has always said nasty things about him. And about Bill, and Hillary….

  5. From NRO.

    These Two Rumors Can’t Possibly Be True, Can They?

    I’m passing these two observations from liberal Virginia bloggers on to readers, but they’re so out of line with expectations, I have a hard time buying them.

    First, from Not Larry Sabato, about the Virginia delegate races: “SIX SEATS ARE GONE- ANOTHER NINE ARE IN PLAY FOR GOP PICKUP.” Yesterday I predicted a GOP gain of six seats; I think most Virginia Republicans saw picking up 11 as their best-case scenario.

    Then, from Blue Virginia: “I’m a bit skeptical of this, so take it with as big a grain of salt as you’d like, but it’s from an excellent source. They got exit poll results from a precinct in Arlington that went 60%+ for Kaine in ’05. With around 250 voters sampled over a 5-hour period this morning, McDonnell is up 22 points on Creigh Deeds. WTF? I mean, if that’s even CLOSE to being true, it’s horrible. Also, even if it gets better through the day, we’re talking about possible margins in Arlington of less than 60% possible for Deeds. For comparison purposes, Tim Kaine got 74% of the vote in Arlington in 2005.”

    Are these two trying to motivate lethargic Democrats? Or is there really evidence of a building Republican wave in northern Virginia?

  6. Admin,

    Your indepth research continues to be amazing.

    Will the race card be overused again tonight? I can’t think of any other excuse the dims can use for what looks to be a dismal showing.

  7. No the question has to be asked, if Repubs sweep tonight is “where have all Obama’s amazing new registrations voters gone to”

  8. Yep, these are obama’s bosom buddies… and he is making her his scapegoat.

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    November 3, 2009 No. 2628

    PA Officials: Hillary Clinton is a Liar Bribed By the Zionists

    Palestinian Authority officials have expressed disappointment with statements by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who called on them to resume negotiations immediately and without preconditions; they are calling her a liar and inexperienced, saying she has been bribed by the Zionists, and accusing her of being pro-Israel.

    Following are excerpts from articles and statements on the issue:

    Advisor to PM Fayyadh: “Clinton, Why Must You Lie?” “How Much Did The Zionists Bribe You?”

    In an article titled “Clinton, Why Must You Lie?” Omar Hilmi Al-Ghul, advisor to PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyadh and columnist for the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, wrote: “U.S. Secretary of State [Hillary Clinton] and her administration’s officials must answer many questions regarding a solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. First of these is: Why is Mrs. Clinton lying to herself, to the American people, and to [other] world nations by twisting the truth and accusing the Palestinians of being an obstacle to a [peaceful] arrangement?!

    “Why, Mrs. Hillary? How much did the Zionists bribe you, and what weight does AIPAC carry in your decisions and inclinations? Have you asked yourself who is occupying whose land? Which side is plundering the land, murdering [its] inhabitants, sowing death, violence, and terror, and destroying human civilization in the region?

    “Mrs. Clinton, your lies can deceive only a few simpletons, who have been led astray – but the overwhelming majority of people can clearly see the truth… Despite all stratagems and coercive pressure [exerted by] your administration, the Palestinian leadership will remain an address for peace [in the Middle East] and for adherence to the settlement option; yet it will never submit itself to your or your administration’s rationale of resuming negotiations while construction in the settlements continues.” [1]

    ‘Abbas: The U.S. Position is “Unreasonable”

    PA President Mahmoud ‘Abbas stated: “[T]he U.S. has proposed no new [initiative] to move the Israeli-Palestinian peace process ahead; its position is unreasonable, since a six-month suspension of settlement construction is not the same as a complete freeze – which is a precondition for the peace process.” [2]

    PA Presidential Speaker Nabil Abu Rudeina accused the U.S. administration of “going back on its promises,” and said that it is “unable to fulfill its commitments, and in particular the demand to freeze all settlement [construction] – which Obama set forth in his Cairo University address.” Abu Rudeina went on to state: “Washington cannot compel Israel to freeze settlement [construction] because it is not pressuring it enough. If the U.S. administration cannot persuade Israel to freeze the settlements, how will it force it to withdraw from the West Bank and East Jerusalem?

    “The Palestinian side still adheres to its former position that all [construction] activity in the settlements must be stopped before negotiations are resumed.” [3]

    Columnist: The U.S. “Gave a Powerful Push to the Escalation of Palestinian and Arab Extremism”

    In a column titled “Obama Should Fire Her” in the PA daily Al-Ayyam, Talal ‘Awkal wrote: “Mrs. Clinton has poured oil on the fire. For her, it wasn’t enough that the U.S. has been backing down more and more from its internationally [declared] position of championing a freeze on settlements, including natural growth – [no,] she [also had to] praise the position of [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu, [that is], opposition to a definitive freeze on settlements in Jerusalem and insistence on continuing the construction of 3,000 housing units in the West Bank…

    “The U.S. administration has perpetrated a great deception, by backing down from the position that it itself declared and that had [subsequently] been internationally [accepted]. Thus, it strengthened the concerted efforts by Netanyahu and his government to destroy the peace process, and dealt a severe blow to all advocates of moderation, flexibility, and peace in the Palestinian arena. At the same time, it gave a powerful push to the escalation of Palestinian and Arab extremism.

    “Mrs. Clinton has [always] been known as an Israeli sympathizer – as a presidential candidate and then as secretary of state. This time, however, she has showed her inexperience in political action.

    “If the aim of her visit to the region was to support Senator George Mitchell, her statements at the press conference with Netanyahu undermined [Mitchell’s] efforts, and may even lead to his resignation. That is what I would do if I were in his shoes.” [4]

    [1] Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Palestinian Authority), November 2, 2009.

    [2] http://www.alarabiya.net, November 1, 2009.

    [3] Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Palestinian Authority), November 2, 2009.

    [4] Al-Ayyam (Palestinian Authority), November 2, 2009.

    http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP262809

  9. Admin,

    That is a great article from the NYT, for once, about the Iowa idiots who gifted the (s)election to Squat.

    Hope they prove untrue the “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks’ adage.

    MOP – I hope Corzine does go down in flames and with it the entire corrupt (un)educational system which is joined at the hip to the dims and is ruining another generation of kids.

  10. Clinton meets Libyan FM for first time

    CAIRO — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met for the first time on Tuesday with her Libyan counterpart, Mussa Kussa, at a conference in Morocco, her spokesman said.

    “They sat for about fifteen minutes,” said Philip Crowley, aboard the airplane bringing Clinton to Cairo, where she is to meet Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to discuss the paralysed Middle East peace process. “They talked about Sudan, Darfur, cooperation about terrorism and the possibility of advancing our relationship.”

    Crowley said the two did not discuss the matter of Libyan Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, the man convicted of the the 1988 bombing of an airliner over the Scottish town of Lockerbie that killed 270 people.

    Megrahi, who is 57 and suffering from cancer, was released from a Scottish prison in August on compassionate grounds because he was said to have only three months left to live.

    “The issue of Megrahi did not come up,” Crowley said, but “the Libyans understand our concerns about Megrahi very very well.”

    Following his release, Megrahi returned home to a warm welcome, triggering fury from the US administration and American relatives of Lockerbie victims.

    Relations between the United States and Libya, which Crowder described as a “country we have an emergent relationship with,” warmed after Tripoli renounced the pursuit of weapons of mass destruction in 2003 and agreed to pay 270 million dollars in compensation to Lockerbie relatives.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iqbHzGagDA17XZdVi_oMh9JzlikQ

  11. Here we go. ;evil:

    Police called to NY-23 polling places by – guess who – the dims.

    www dot nydailynews dot com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/11/police-called-to-ny-23-polling

  12. The guys at Hillbuzz link to this article in the Chicago Tribune regarding tonight’s premiere of the TV show “V”.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tc-tvcolumn-v-1102-1103nov03,0,7062976.story

    Imagine this. At a time of political turmoil, a charismatic, telegenic new leader arrives virtually out of nowhere. He offers a message of hope and reconciliation based on compromise and promises to marshal technology for a better future that will include universal health care.

    The news media swoons in admiration — one simpering anchorman even shouts at a reporter who asks a tough question: “Why don’t you show some respect?!” The public is likewise smitten, except for a few nut cases who circulate batty rumors on the Internet about the leader’s origins and intentions. The leader, undismayed, offers assurances that are soothing, if also just a tiny bit condescending: “Embracing change is never easy.”

    So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait — did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who’s come here to eat us?

    It’s only a TV show:

    Welcome to ABC’s “V,” the most fascinating and bound to be the most controversial new show of the fall television season. Nominally a rousing sci-fi space opera about alien invaders bent on the conquest (and digestion) of all humanity, it’s also a barbed commentary on Obamamania that will infuriate the president’s supporters and delight his detractors.

    “We’re all so quick to jump on the bandwagon,” observes one character. “A ride on the bandwagon, it sounds like fun. But before we get on, let us at least make sure it is sturdy.”

    The bandwagon in this case is conspicuously saucer-shaped. “V” starts with the arrival of a couple of dozen ships from outer space, piloted by creatures who look like humans except a lot prettier. “Don’t be frightened,” says their luminously beautiful leader Anna (Morena Baccarin, “Serenity”). “We mean no harm.”

    The aliens — who become known as V’s, for visitors — quickly enthrall their wide-eyed human hosts.

    A handful of dissidents hold out against the rapturous reception given the V’s. Some are simply uneasy, such as the youthful priest Father Jack (Joel Gretsch, “The 4400”), who sharply criticizes the Vatican’s embrace of the V’s as divine creations: “Rattlesnakes are God’s creatures too.”

    With or without the political sheen, “V” is sweeping television storytelling at its best. Whether you choose to view it as a blood-and-guts war story, a spy thriller (unlike the original show, these V’s are perfect replicas of humans, so you never really know who might be sitting beside you at the bar), a high-stakes family drama (as households divide over the intentions of the V’s), a religious allegory (the V’s make a crippled man walk, filling up churches again) or just a sci-fi throwback to the days of “Earth vs. the Flying Saucers” and “The Thing,” “V” is irresistible. This bandwagon is definitely worth jumping on.

  13. Funny basil, no one seemed to call the police when black panthers were beating the shit out of Clinton voters last year.

    As for NY – 23, it may be tight but i dont think it will be, today seems to be pointing to a high gop turnout and it depends on turnout but if its like the desperately low turnout in NJ, Dems are in big trouble, it seems Conservatives are out in force, and minorities have not been assed to go out and vote.

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    “I’ve been working in Newark (biggest city in NJ, dem stronghold) for the past 3 days, making calls, putting up signs, etc. The biggest thing going on today is no one here is going to the polls. In one polling place 49 votes were cast by 11 am, in contrast, at the same time last year, there were 378 votes cast. Unless people come out of the wood works in Newark, Christie may win this big regardless of Daggett. Speaking of Daggett, in my home county (Morris, Christie’s base) Daggeett was the LAST name on the ballot, all the way to the right. I concur with your reader who eariler stated that he was not worried about him any more.”

  14. Interestingly though, Democratic mouthpieces have been fast racheting up the rhetoric in the last 2 hours that todays losses are not a referendum on Obama.

    I’d take that as a sign that NJ, VA and NY23 are swept away.

  15. MoonOnPluto, we’ve made phone calls and things are bleak for Dimocrats. On the positive side, Democrats usually vote late in the day. In New Jersey, the likelihood of Republican victories die days before the voting but this time, it looks like Christie is still hanging on. The situation might change later in the day, but right now, things look like a disaster for B.O. all over.

    Politico has some anecdotal tidbits too:
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1109/On_the_ground_in_Virginia_Energized_Republicans.html

    A UVA grad student emails:

    Last year, I made phone calls for John McCain two days before the election. There were five other volunteers in the office. This year, I tried to make phone calls for Bob McDonnell two weeks before the election, and there were approximately 25 volunteers. Not enough phones for everyone.

    The only Creigh Deeds signs I see are the ones that the campaign used to pollute the highway medians with. Even in liberal Charlottesville, there are far more Bob McDonnell bumper stickers/yard signs than Creigh Deeds.

    A NoVA voter emails:

    I was at my polling place (22206) at 5:55 this morning, and was 6th in line. Last year, I was there at 5:30 AM, and there were several hundred people in front of me. Also, the only “door-knockers” I saw in the neighborhood were for the Dem House of Delegates rep. Very few yard signs for anybody in my neighborhood. It doesn’t seem folks are real interested in this one (relative to last year anyway).

    And Shaun Dakin emails from Falls Church in Fairfax County, where paper ballots are back (and where he took the photo above):

    * About a 3-5 min wait
    * GOP people outside the polling place very energized. No Deeds people (see photo) – there were 3 people right there.. No DEMs.

  16. The problem with NJ and for Corzine is that he is deeply unpopular and when you have a deeply unpopular incumbent, no amount of crap will drag them out to the polls and if they do its to vote for the other guy.

  17. God this is fun, have not had so much fun with you guys since the primaries when Hillary was whalloping his ass.

  18. I think I will boycott watching “V”. I watched the original series but the breakdown for this one just makes me sick.

  19. from NRO

    It Appears Democrats’ Panic in Virginia Is Justified, So Far

    One of my Virginia guys who’s plugged in says he’s not surprised by Democratic reports of panic; the indicators and things he’s seen make him think it’s justified.

    Again, it’s early; the after-work crowd could be much more Democratic and make the overall picture look different. The Democrats have a few more hours to try to make these delegate races look better for themselves. But from everything we’re hearing and seeing, it seems safe to say the GOP had an excellent morning.

    However if the Dem turnout is like most other places and many cant be bothered, its going to be a very very bad night.

  20. from twitter.

    tweet from Erik Erickson:

    ewerickson: Looking from the ground like Harmer in CA-10 could be a surprise GOP pick up.
    12 minutes ago

    if that happens, its gonna be a political earthquake.

  21. Thanks MOP.

    Amazing that densely populated Newark has had such a low turnout in the one district cited whereas here in rural Leeds there have already been hundreds.

    And there’s nothing that controversial going on up here except for some typical dirty politrix ‘let’s try to keep the other guy off the ticket’ type of thing.

    Personally, I’m hoping for a Dim fizzle today!

    😀

  22. moon,

    For all the spin they will make,bambi and his thugs have to be shaking in their boots. I can just imagine the dirty money they are going to throw away in 2010 to turn things around.

  23. MoonOnPluto, if a Republican would win in California 10, it would not be a political earthquake, it would be a supernova explosion. A Republican win in New Jersey will be only an earthquake. 🙂

  24. Just heard that Deeds is losing by 20 points in early polling in Va and the libtards are going even more nutz than they already are.

  25. From PPP (Public Policy Polling)

    In NY-23 despite the presence more or less of two Republican candidates on the ballot, Doug Hoffman is winning 71% of the GOP vote to Bill Owens’ 67% of the Democratic vote. Hoffman leads Owens 52-30 with independents.

    In New Jersey Chris Christie is getting 82% of the Republican vote while Jon Corzine is at 72% of the Democratic vote. Christie leads 52-29 with independents. …

    …………. independents are giving the GOP very high levels of support. It should be the best Republican election night since George W. Bush got reelected.

  26. MOP,

    The 20% is from SOME of the early polling.

    It would be great if that number stays double digits.

    I bet the dims are wishing they’d gone with Terry-o.

  27. sad….but true

    quote

    We’re used to a usual after-work vote rush. But compared to a year ago in democratic states, there are quite a few people with no work to go to this morning.

  28. Turnout In Some Democratic Counties in VA Below 2005 Levels

    And now we see one of the reasons for Democratic panic in Virginia: “Charlottesville-area polling places are reporting low to moderate levels of voter turnout, election officials said Tuesday afternoon. As of 1 p.m., 5,116 voters had cast a ballot in Charlottesville, marking a turnout of 18.6 percent. “That’s lower than 2005 at this point,” said Charlottesville registrar Sheri Iachetta. Voters turned out at a slightly higher rate in Albemarle County, where 25.9 percent of voters had cast a ballot by 1 p.m.”

    Last year, Obama carried Albemarle County 59 percent to 40 percent. In 2005, Democrat Tim Kaine carried the county with 61 percent.

  29. Basil9, the race in Maine is a referendum to overturn the gay marriage law which passed the Maine legislature.

    BTW, we think that the gay advocates have once again done a horrible job. Gay activists have not yet formulated a good response to children “indoctrinated” in schools. Gay marriage opponents know children and schools are the soft underbelly for gay marriage advocates but gay activists only deal with the issue by calling opponents foul names. Until gay rights organizations enunciate a good response to the “children and schools” issue, fear mongering opponents will continue to have the upper hand. That is what happened in California and it happened again in Maine with very strong TV advertisements.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29065.html

    Maine became the fifth New England state to enact gay marriage last May, when Democratic Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill passed by Democratic majorities in both chambers of the Legislature. Voters could repeal that law by supporting Question 1 on Tuesday, making Maine the latest in a long string of states to reject gay unions when the issue is put to a popular vote.

    Recent polls have shown Mainers split down the middle between the “yes” and “no” positions on the ballot measure. A Public Policy Polling automated survey released Monday showed the initiative striking down gay marriage leading by 4 points, 51 percent to 47 percent, but two polls last week contradicted that finding by reporting opponents of the measure ahead by 4 and 11 points. Turnout, say operatives on both sides of the issue, is the wild card in the contest.

    Advocates of same-sex marriage are optimistic that ballot box history won’t repeat itself in Maine. Having learned the lessons of their loss in California, they say, the No on One campaign could break their seemingly endless series of defeats in popular elections.

  30. November 03, 2009

    White House Sees ‘Ramifications’ for 2010 in New York Congressional Race

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs acknowledges that the Obama administration has some interest in the special election for New York’s 23rd Congressional District seat.

    The conservative rebellion against a moderate Republican candidate for Congress in upstate New York has “ramifications” for the 2010 elections, the White House said Tuesday, while dismissing as “navel-gazing” any speculation about the impact of the Virginia and New Jersey gubernatorial races.

    The Obama administration is reluctant to draw any lessons from Tuesday’s elections — Democrat Creigh Deeds is far behind Republican Bob McDonnell in polls ahead of the Virginia governor’s race; Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine is in a tight race for re-election against Chris Christie in New Jersey; and Democrat Bill Owens is trailing his opponent in a New York special election for Congress.

    As Republicans have begun to crow about the positive implications for them any GOP wins might carry, the White House is arguing the elections mean very little — though President Obama or Vice President Biden actively campaigned for the Democrat in all three of those races.

    “I know there’s a great cottage industry in this lovely town that looks at what happens today and sees what it portends for next year,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. “I don’t believe that local elections in Virginia and New Jersey portend a lot about legislative success or political success in the future. I just don’t.”

    But Gibbs was willing to acknowledge that the White House has some interest in the special election for New York’s 23rd Congressional District seat. “I do think there are interesting tidbits that we see coming out of New York 23,” he said.

    Gibbs’ remarks were meant more as a warning to the Republican Party than Democrats, however. In that race, Republican Party candidate Dede Scozzafava was effectively forced out of the race by the surging candidacy of third-party conservative Doug Hoffman — whose campaign was buoyed by endorsements from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, other prominent conservatives and grassroots activists. Gibbs picked up on the narrative Tuesday that this scenario could repeat itself in other districts in 2010, spelling trouble for other moderate Republicans.

    “I think there are a host of primaries that will affect 2010 next year that pit moderate Republican candidates and conservative Republican candidates,” Gibbs said. “I think many in the Republican Party hung out a sign … that moderates need not apply. “I do think that has ramifications for next year,” he added.

    Gibbs, though, dismissed a question on why the White House intervened to help convince Scozzafava to endorse Owens. White House Political Director Patrick Gaspard reportedly intervened to help Scozzafava make the decision that has been roundly criticized by Republican Party operatives and politicians. “I think that what … the former Republican nominee decided was — and talked to, I’m sure, both Republicans and Democrats both in New York and nationally about who she thought was best suited to carry on the things that she cared about and believed in — she decided that that candidate was a Democrat,” Gibbs said.

    Though the White House downplays the rest of Tuesday’s elections, it has invested presidential time and resources in all three of the major races. Biden campaigned for Owens on Monday. Obama has made several trips to New Jersey to rally support for Corzine and try to motivate his supporters to the polls. Obama also traveled to Virginia last week for Deeds but did not return.

    If Democrats lose two of the three big contests, it raises questions not only about their chances for retaining or picking up seats in the 2010 mid-term elections but also about the willingness of moderates to continue to support the president’s agenda in the year ahead.

    “A victory in one state would reverse a troubling trend line for the GOP and would give the party momentum heading into 2010. The RGA winning both states would be devastating to Democrats,” the Republican Governors Association said in a memo.

    Historically, the off-year elections are inconsistent predictors of the midterms. Republican wins in the 1993 off-year elections preceded big Republican wins in Congress in 1994. But, as Gibbs noted, Democrats won in 2001 but it didn’t do them much good in Congress the following year.

    Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, said Tuesday’s races are by no means a “referendum” on Obama. The only real presidential referendum comes in 2012, he noted. But he said the president has nevertheless inserted himself into these races and that there may be lessons to glean from the results Tuesday night.

    “He’s very much a factor,” Sabato said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/white-house-sees-ramifications-new-york-congressional-race/

  31. unfortunately the after hours DIM voters will those thugs types we found in the primaries……fraud, double voters…both in prescent voters and via mail and probably checking on those who have not voted yet and going in and voting for them with fraudalent papers……I just hope there are too many of them to swing it to the DIMS…

  32. quote

    “we just voted in our heavily democrat district in Richmond VA. My wife and I were the only ones in there voting. A far cry from last year, when the place was packed to the teeth.”

    Where did they all go.

  33. It’s Barack Obama’s first anniversary – but there’s precious little to celebrate: The US President’s performance has dismayed even his biggest admirers, writes Simon Heffer in New York

    By Simon Heffer
    03 Nov 2009
    A year ago, almost to the minute, I was here in New York, watching television reports of the aftermath of the election of Barack Obama as 44th President of the United States of America. I recall the sight of a lachrymose woman from the Midwest, standing outside her run-down house as the sun rose, giving thanks for her deliverance: not from George W Bush, but from the threat of foreclosure. I have no idea whether this poor woman kept the roof over her head; all I know is, if she did, it would have been no thanks to Mr Obama.

    On the anniversary of his election, he is busy with unpleasant confrontations with reality. As my colleague Toby Harnden reported so graphically last week, the honeymoon is over. Never in American politics has someone come to power on such a bubble of expectation; never, inevitably, has the pricking of that bubble caused such shock. America may just have come out of recession, but things remain bad. Ten per cent of the workforce is unemployed: here in New York, perhaps the most dynamic and prosperous city on the planet, the figure is even higher.

    The rhetoric that bore Mr Obama to office proved equal to electoral success, but not to economic management. Moreover, Mr Obama’s most coveted legislative aim, the creation of a sort of national health service, remains elusive. The Wall Street Journal, the newspaper here of serious money, has just savaged the Bill as perhaps the worst inflicted on the American people since the era of Roosevelt. Its projected cost – $1.055 trillion over 10 years – is regarded as madness when America has a level of debt so astronomical that it (just) exceeds, per capita, that of Britain; and few outside a hard core of Obama devotees see it delivering what is needed, where it is needed.

    Internationally, the lustre has worn off, too. Mr Obama might have won the Nobel Peace Prize, but the less said about that the better. The award was apparently decided in February, days after he entered the Oval Office. He gave up his missile defence system in eastern Europe: we all imagined the Russians would give something in return, but we are still waiting. More recently, he went to Copenhagen to try to secure the 2016 Olympics for Chicago, and failed. While this did little more than provide amusement to many, it damaged him in America, and outraged his true believers: perhaps the emperor had a small wardrobe after all.

    Now he is immersed in a deliberative exercise about whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. As is the lot of politicians, he will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. What the dilemma illustrates is that governing is not so easy as it might once have seemed; that you cannot please all of the people all of the time, so there is little point trying; and that the expertise of the Obama campaign in managing image is useless when managing a country. Tony Blair, had they asked, could have told him that.

    For all the difficulties of America’s imperial burden, it is the domestic, and particularly the economic, front that Mr Obama and his colleagues are finding hardest to defend. America rejoiced when unemployment dropped in July, but the dawn was false. In the next two months it rose again by nearly 700,000. The projected cumulative deficit for the next 10 years is now $9 trillion, having just been revised upwards by $2 trillion. Perhaps it is because these sums are incomprehensible that Americans are no longer shocked by them: but someone will have to pay. There is no sign of the budget going into the black in any of the next 10 years: the projection for 2019 is still that it will be 4 per cent of gross domestic product (it is between 11 and 12 per cent now). The health care plans, were they to be enacted, would make this dire situation even worse. They can be funded only by higher taxes, which is no doubt fair if everyone wants such a system, but far from everyone does. And, as I have written in relation to our benighted economy, the growth that might ease the problem will only be depressed by higher taxes. The stimulus package of $787 billion has paid few dividends (“He didn’t even read the Bill, he just signed it,” a Republican told me): as at home, serious cuts in spending are not on the agenda. The dollar remains a reserve currency, but has been heading south. For all the supposed brilliance of Timothy Geithner, the Treasury Secretary, and Larry Summers, Mr Obama’s chief economic adviser, they are still looking for the paddle.

    Mr Obama seems also to have made another bad mistake. Apparently shocked by the virulence of Fox News Channel’s attacks on him, he has declared war on the network. We can imagine what would happen if a British head of government were to try to take on an arm of the media, and it has happened here. Many voters feel the President has diminished himself by admitting to being so bothered by Fox, which for its part has turned up the abuse.

    So too has Rush Limbaugh, the talk radio presenter, whom Mr Obama and his friends have made the mistake of branding the leader of the Republican Party. That was meant to be an insult to the Republicans: it has transmuted into a further proof of the administration’s weakness, and has elevated Mr Limbaugh to an even higher position of influence. The President appears thin-skinned, immature and inexperienced. Mr Limbaugh now taunts him outrageously to see what reaction he can provoke, such as by saying last weekend (on Fox, of course) that the President’s attendance at the repatriation of dead American servicemen was a “photo opportunity” contrived because his popularity was slumping. The gloves are not just off; the knuckledusters are on.

    To use another old cliché, Mr Obama looks like a man who has made the mistake of believing his own publicity. His adherents in the media are now so defensive that they have started complaining about the rules – implying that the exercise of free speech by the likes of Mr Limbaugh verges on the traitorous, and is preventing the President from doing his job properly. Any excuse, we must suppose, will do.

    For his part, Mr Obama is engaging in acts of deference to the Democratic majority in Congress – as a Chicago machine politician probably has to, for genetic reasons – that are exceeded only by his acts of deference to the unions, who have never had it so good, and who were the reason for his absurd decision to put tariffs on tyres imported from China.

    By the time you read this you will know whether the Democrats have lost a series of key elections held yesterday, including the governorships of Virginia and New Jersey. If they do, it will reinforce the point that Mr Obama won last November because he was not the heir of George Bush, and for no other reason. The President starts to risk comparisons not just with Jimmy Carter, but with Lyndon Johnson, felled by a combination of a foreign war and welfare reform, and even, with his list of enemies, Richard Nixon. The problem may be one of immaturity and inexperience. If so, he had better learn fast. For, at this rate, next year’s congressional elections start to look more than challenging for him.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/simonheffer/6496501/Its-Barack-Obamas-first-anniversary—but-theres-precious-little-to-celebrate.html

  34. November 3, 2009

    Public Opinion on Key Obama Policies Sinks

    President Barack Obama’s overall approval rating has stabilized in the latest CNN/Opinion Research poll – at 54%, it’s still roughly where it’s been since late summer.

    But the underlying trends appear worrisome for the White House. In just about every specific policy category, Obama’s approval rating has declined significantly since the last time pollsters checked.

    On the economy, it’s down to 46%, compared with 54% in September. On health care, it’s 42%, down from 51% in September. On the federal budget deficit, it’s 39%, versus 46% in September (although up from 36% in August). On Afghanistan, it’s 42% versus 49% in August.

    The percentage saying his policies are too liberal (42%) is also up slightly, although 44% still say his policies are just about right. The poll has a margin of error of four percentage points.

    One key to the president’s continued popularity is the personal confidence he inspires in people.

    Over half – 57% – agree that he’s been a better president than George W. Bush so far. One third (34%) say Bush was better. The popularity contest between Vice President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Dick Cheney, is slightly tighter – 54% say Biden has been a better veep, while 38% pick Cheney.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/11/03/public-opinion-sinks-on-key-obama-policies/

  35. got this via email……. seems a perfect time to post it today (election day) 😀

    545 PEOPLE

    By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red …

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees..

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper

    What you do with this article now that you have read it………. Is up to you.

    This might be funny if it weren’t so darned true.
    Be sure to read all the way to the end:

    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table
    At which he’s fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for peanuts
    Anyway!
    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.
    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax ALL that he has.

    Tax it all
    Then let him know
    That you won’t be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He’s good and sore.
    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he’s laid…

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    Taxes drove me
    to my doom…’

    When he’s gone,
    Do not relax,
    It’s time to apply
    The inheritance tax..
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge T ax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Sales Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice FeeTax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
    What in the heck happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’
    And I still have to ‘press 1’ for English!?

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!
    GO AHEAD – – – BE AN AMERICAN!!!

  36. Why is it a nasty turnaround for the American Thinker to print a nasty hit piece about Gore? Their faction has always said nasty things about him. And about Bill, and Hillary….
    *******************************

    I am saying this. The article is from American Thinker. If you connect the dots, Gore has made out like a bandit after losing in 2000. And he will make TONS more off of cap and trade, OUR money.

  37. STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
    What in the heck happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’
    And I still have to ‘press 1′ for English!?
    *****************************

    All our manufactoring went to third world countries.

  38. Thanks Admin.

    MOP,

    That IS sad – about people not having jobs this year – and true.

    GREAT POST dijia!

    And let me add another to the list – WATER! That’s right! Our demented Gov Paterson is getting ready to (if it hasn’t already gone into affect) place a $.05 tax on each 8 oz bottle of DRINKING WATER!!!!!!

  39. Now isnt it funny that Virginia has now 100,000 less voters now in Nov 2009 than it did in Nov 2008 and Obama won Virginia by 200,000.

    Very strange, where did 100,000 voters go?

  40. Some exit polls slowly released by network news.

    Also, Blue Dog Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania has this to say about the election results (which parallels our thesis that in order to bring the Democratic Party back from death and drive away Dimocrats and Obama there must be big losses this year and devastating losses next year):

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/66041-blue-dog-says-dem-losses-would-strengthen-centrists-position

    Centrist Blue Dog Democrats might see their position strengthened if Democrats suffer broader electoral losses, one Blue Dog member suggested Tuesday.

    Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.) argued that an Election Day rebuke for Democratic candidates across the nation could lead some in the party to rethink their plans on healthcare reform and other issues.

    “It looks as though the anger that has been boiling up the last couple of months is going to lead to a pretty high turnout from Republicans and from people who are concerned about increased spending,” Altmire said Monday evening during an appearance on Fox Business Network.

    “And I do think that if the results show Republicans have a pretty good night, that probably is going to lead some Democrats to think that, going into next year, we need to take a second look at the way that we’ve done a lot of bills we’ve addressed up to this point,” the Pennsylvania congressman added.

  41. Well, Admin, you are clairvoyant, as we know, and most of what you foresee comes to pass.
    YAY!

    BTW, I love this comment by Mary quite contrary over at hillbuzz;
    If the trifecta “hits” look for Barry act on Afghanistan by 3am. Why? Because the Blue Dogs and any other elected Dem who doesn’t want to actually have to look for employment, is going to bail on ObamaCare. Pelosi will be thrown under the bus (how does Botox work with tire tracks?)

    The Won will have to do “something” “anything” to get over the Epic Fails. NY23rd and VA are “givens;” NJ is the litmus test (Barry was there yesterday). Corzine’s loss is a kick in the boney butt of you know who. So look out Afghanies…Barry is pi$$ed.

  42. And I do think that if the results show Republicans have a pretty good night, that probably is going to lead some Democrats to think that, going into next year, we need to take a second look at the way that we’ve done a lot of bills we’ve addressed up to this point,” the Pennsylvania congressman added.
    ********************

    isn’t it sad that they paid little attention to all the phone calls, emails, letters, office visits,million people march…but when THEY may lose THEIR jobs, they will re look @ things….sick

  43. We updated the article with this:

    Update: Confusion reigns among Obama supporters. At FireDogLake and the DailyKooks they are purposefully confusing the Democratic “base” with the Obama coalition. We wrote about the “Situation Comedy” demographics of the Obama coalition which excluded old people as a useless bunch.

    FireDogLake anticipates defeat in Virginia and trys to exculpate the 2008 support for Obama by mixing “base” wth “Obama coalition. Memo to the Hopium addled – you guys were the ones who laughed at old people and talked about that “new” coalition of young, black, and liberal rich which would lead to the thousand year Obama reich. FireDogLake:

    Some have compared this year’s election to the 1993 election that served as a preview for what would happen in 1994. I actually think things are a little bit worse. In the 1992 election, senior citizens were one of the best voting blocks for Bill Clinton–and of course seniors have excellent voting patterns and represent a larger share of the electorate in low turnout mid-term elections. That helped save a number of Democrats in 1994–like Lawton Chiles in the Florida Governor’s race. But in 2008, seniors were one of the groups with which Barack Obama struggled. The strongest groups for Democrats in 2008 were voters under the age of 30 and minority voters. Also known as the two groups whose participation historically falls in midterm elections. In Virginia this year, one poll showed the percentage of the likely electorate under the age of 30 falling 70% from 2008–and the African American share of the vote falling 39% from 2008! That’s why virtually every poll has shown today’s likely electorate as having voted for John McCain by double digits over Barack Obama in Virginia last year–despite Virginia having voted almost exactly the reverse.

  44. well admin,,,they said they didn’t need us old hags so i hope the door doesn’t hit them too hard on the way out. Actually I do!

  45. As happy as I am that the dims are having a poor showing today, I wish it were independents who were winning and not repubs.

  46. Interesting.

    And this remark truly shows the delusional state of Bots.

    ‘Successful candidates in 2010 will find a way to engage young voters and minority voters so they come back to the polls–’

    I do not think they will ever find a way to repeat the once in a lifetime Squat coup. At least, that’s what I’m hoping.

  47. JanH
    November 3rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
    ********************

    They are, it’s the Indies making a big crossover from the fraud to the Repub

  48. While I do believe some sort of HCR is needed, I don’t think the 2000 page House bill is the answer.

    Apparently, neither does the Dem party. (via ABC)

    Senior Congressional Democrats say reform before end of year is highly unlikely.

    Senior Congressional Democrats told ABC News today it is highly unlikely that a health care reform bill will be completed this year, just a week after President Barack Obama declared he was “absolutely confident” he’ll be able to sign one by then.

    “Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go,” a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News. Two other key Congressional Democrats also told ABC News the same thing.

    This may come as an unwelcome surprise for the White House, where officials from the president on down have repeatedly said the health care bill would be signed into law by the end of the year.

  49. about Indies
    ******************

    In NY-23 despite the presence more or less of two Republican candidates on the ballot, Doug Hoffman is winning 71% of the GOP vote to Bill Owens’ 67% of the Democratic vote. Hoffman leads Owens 52-30 with independents.
    In New Jersey Chris Christie is getting 82% of the Republican vote while Jon Corzine is at 72% of the Democratic vote. Christie leads 52-29 with independents. …

    From the high levels of party unity it’s clear that Republicans voters see the path back to power will require staying on the same page. And whether it’s because the Democrats have bad candidates or they’re unhappy with President Obama, independents are giving the GOP very high levels of support. It should be the best Republican election night since George W. Bush got reelected.

    Christie, though, is not in a good position. He may be getting more of the Republican vote than Corzine is getting of the Democratic vote, but the fact is New Jersey has a lot more Democrats than Republicans. Hopefully doing well with independents will provide votes to put him over the top, but it’s going to be near thing: We probably won’t know until late tonight or early tomorrow morning.

  50. More on NY23:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1109/The_turnout_gap_in_NY_23.html

    Early indications are that Conservative Doug Hoffman is winning the voter enthusiasm battle over Democrat Bill Owens in the New York special election.

    Clinton County Democratic party vice-chair Patty Bentley told POLITICO late this afternoon that turnout was middling at most Plattsburgh city precincts, where the special election was the only race on the ballot. Volunteers were working to go door-to-door to get more volunteers to the polls – with less than four hours before polls close at 9 p.m.

    Plattsburgh is Owens’ home base, and he needs strong turnout there and in surrounding Clinton County to have a shot at winning.

    Meanwhile, the pro-Hoffman, pro-life organization Susan B. Anthony List is reporting that turnout is higher-than-expected at several reliably-Republican precincts they’ve been targeting – with this update from the largest precinct in Jefferson County:

    We’re on the ground at the largest precinct in Jefferson County.

    It’s been steady all day. During peak hours we averaged about 1 voter every minute. An election official said turnout at this precinct is approaching Presidential years.

  51. What I don’t get is why Beck is insulting Gore and Hillary regularly now. He used the Pumas, but I guess he doesn’t feel he needs them now, or maybe he thinks they won’t mind them mocking Al Gore and Hillary. I think he’s wrong about that.

  52. I think Fox got a message…Gore, now i have issues with him…Hillary, they are afraid of how powerful she has become i think

    You know, enemy of my enemy is my friend untill….

  53. MoonOnPluto, we went on MSNBC for the first time in months to verify your report (Fox News has not projected McDonnell the winner yet). Chuck Todd was on saying that many Democrats feared that the Obama coalition would not turn out except for Obama and that it appears those fears are confirmed. Young and black did not show up to vote today. Matthews now questions whether Obamanism exists.

    Too late Dimocrats, you wanted that “new” Obama coalition.

  54. I called in to cover 1/2 of shift, will be back about MN, but then again have to be @ work tom @ 6:45 am, but i will check in.

  55. Matthews now questions whether Obamanism exists.
    ****************

    He should know with his pants leg being wet and all…just saying, he he

  56. FOX reporting 14% of Va votes are in and McDonnell is leading 2 – 1.

    OTOH:
    An amusing glimpse of rural dirty politrix.

    (And proof that the hicks are paying attention to the national political landscape.)

    Mass purchase of local weekly a blatant attempt to control the press?

    Democratic Committee Chairman Thomas Connelly bought as many as 350 copies of this week’s edition of The Greenville Press — not to prevent its contents from being seen, he said Friday — but to make it available to all residents.

    Connelly said Friday he was “appalled” by the negative and distasteful tone the Republicans’ campaigns had taken and wanted Greenville residents to see for themselves how the various campaigns were playing out in the media.

    Connelly said he bought $250 worth of copies, which retail at 75 cents, at total of five stores in Greenville Thursday morning.

    Connelly stated that Republicans were “trying for a new record low in Greene County politics, inundating this week’s papers with letters and ads full of lies, insults and negativity.”

    The incident “astonished” Greene County Republican Committee Chairman Brent Bogardus, who announced the mass-purchase in a press release he issued Thursday night.

    He said Friday that people should be able to find their newspaper at their normal locations and that the mass-purchase was a blatant attempt to control the press.

    Bogardus said he had not seen a copy of the paper because it was unavailable at his preferred store and could not comment on the content of the advertisements and letters within.

    Hudson-Catskill Newspapers printed 530 copies of the Press Thursday night and Fenoff redistributed her paper in Greenville Friday.

  57. Um Um Um.

    How the spin turns.

    Yahoo;
    More than four in 10 voters in Virginia said their view of Obama factored into their choice on Tuesday.

    CNN
    There’s been plenty of talk by political pundits that Virginia’s gubernatorial contest was a referendum on President Barack Obama, but voters don’t agree, according to data from CNN exit polls of people voting Tuesday in that state’s gubernatorial contest.

    Get your story straight, a$$wipes! Um um um. hehehehe

  58. “From a Democrat operative
    Corzine isn’t pulling nearly enough votes out of Northern Jersey, and turnout is 25% lower than expected in key Democrat districts.

    Quote: “It’s bad. [Democrats] freaking out about the low turnout in Newark.”

  59. A+ coverage, Mop!

    I hope Corzine goes down! I lived in NJ during the first couple of years of his governorship and he was a disaster, although his predecessor, McGreevey,wasn’t any better.

  60. BTW,

    It is funny as he!! hearing the commentators skirt around the difference in NJ AA turnout now vs a year ago.

    👿

  61. interesting

    National Review Online just reported on a CNN exit poll indicting Christie leading by over 25 pts with Independents,

  62. Hillary Clinton to attend APEC ministerial meeting in Singapore

    04 November 2009

    WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) ministerial meeting later this month in Singapore, senior official Kurt Tong said on Tuesday.

    The United States will have a high-level presence at “the annual ministerial meeting which is a meeting of both Secretary Clinton and US chair (Ron) Kirk and their counterparts from the other 20 economies,” Tong told reporters. Kirk is the US trade representative.

    The ministerial meeting is scheduled for November 11-12, ahead of the APEC summit, at which President Barack Obama will make his inaugural appearance. APEC finance ministers will also hold meetings that week.

    Tong said the various APEC meetings will focus on “economic recovery” following the massive global slowdown.

    The participants will also discuss the theme of “resisting protectionism,” a major topic of the summit in the September G20 summit of Pittsburg as well as regional economic integration, Tong said. He added that they will also seek to “reinforce the G20’s pledge to establish a pattern of global growth that is more balanced by region and less prone to destabilising booms and busts.”

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/1015765/1/.html

  63. mop,

    Notice they’re not shy about reporting stats on whites?

    If Corzine loses I’m sure the spin will be NJ is RAAAACCCIST!

    Grrrrrrrrrrr

  64. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush to debate in NYC

    November 3, 2009

    It’s the battle of the former presidents!

    George W. Bush and Bill Clinton will face off early next year at Radio City Music Hall, as the main event in an annual speaker’s series.

    The Feb. 25, 2010, debate is billed by MSG Entertainment as a chance for Clinton and Bush to “present their thoughts on a wide range of important current events and national issues.”

    Specifics on the event format, time limits and moderator have not been announced.

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/bill-clinton-george-w-bush-to-debate-in-nyc-1.1566581

  65. NBC exit poll:

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/11/03/2118162.aspx

    Democrats should heed a warning inside the numbers in the Virginia gubernatorial race — independent drift and a significant drop off among young voters.

    In 2008, candidate Obama won independent voters in Virginia, 49%-48%, according to exit polls. But the exits in this year’s contest show that independents abandoned Creigh Deeds (D) and went overwhelmingly for the Republican, Bob McDonnell, 62%-37%.

    Voters, age 18-29, made up more than one in every five voters in 2008 (21%) in Virginia. This year, they made up just 10%. They broke 60%-39% for Obama, but just 51%-47% for Deeds.

    By contrast, older voters (65+) made up more of the electorate this time around in Virginia. In 2008, voters 65 and older made up 11% of the electorate; in 2009, 18%. They broke for the Republican both times by similar margins — in 2008, 53%-46% for John McCain; in 2009, 55%-45% for McDonnell.

    Additionally, there was a five-point dropoff among black voters from 2008. Black voters made up a whopping 20% of all Virginia voters when Obama was on the ballot. This time, though, they made up just 15%.

  66. CNN exit polls in NJ:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/03/exit-polls-independents-may-play-crucial-role/

    Independents appear to be playing an important role in the country’s two off-year gubernatorial races.

    In New Jersey, Republican Chris Christie took 58 percent of the independent vote, according to early CNN Exit Poll data. Incumbent Gov. Jon Corzine, a Democrat, took just 33 percent of the independent vote. Independents made up 27 percent of the voters in New Jersey race.

    To the south, in Virginia, 62 percent of independents cast ballots for Republican Bob McDonnell in that state’s gubernatorial contest. Democrat Creigh Deeds earned the votes of 37 percent of independents. Independents made up 29 percent of voters in that race.

  67. Republican sweep in Virginia:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29081.html

    Just a year after President Obama won the state’s votes for the Democratic Party for the first time in 44 years, McDonnell, incumbent Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling and Republican attorney general candidate Ken Cuccinelli were elected easily over their Democratic opponents.

    Network exit polls showed a starkly different electorate went to the polls in Virginia Tuesday than the one that elected President Barack Obama in 2008. The proportion of voters under 30 dropped from 21 percent in 2008 to 10 percent today. Just 15 percent of the Virginia electorate was black this year, compared with 20 percent last year.

  68. FWIW,

    from Geraghty;

    NJ HORSERACE

    Christie By One Percent?

    ‘Everybody and their brother thinks that New Jersey is going to go down to the wire. But one of my readers is plugged in to a New Jersey Democrat, and this guy’s running of the numbers goes to Republican Chris Christie winning by one percentage point. Admission against interest, and all that. Take it for what it’s worth.’

  69. Fun:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/former_presidents_to_face_off_in_EOs3vCrmgLrnYuXWC0KvUM

    Bubba and Dubya are going to engage in a presidential debate for the ages.

    Former President Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will square off on the same stage at Radio City Music Hall in February as part of a series pitting liberal and conservative thinkers.

    The event is part of MSG Entertainment’s third annual “Minds That Move The World” speakers series.

    The event — billed as “The Hottest Ticket in Political History” — will take place on Feb. 25, 2010, at 8 p.m., according to organizers.

    Clinton, a Democrat who served two terms starting in 1993, and Bush, a Republican, who also served two consecutive terms starting in 2001, will engage in an “uncensored, unedited and unpredixctable” debate.

  70. Lou Dobbs said that the White House informed CNN that obama had no intention of watching the returns tonight or having an election party.

    LOL…I don’t believe it for a moment.

  71. JEEZZZZZZZZ!

    Those exit polls are BAAAADDDDDD news for the dims, dontchathink?

    nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!

    Or is it
    nah nah nah nah
    nah nah nah nah
    Hey he-ey
    Goo-ood by

    Remember those classy bots singing that at the immaculation?

  72. Virginia will be cut off from the Obama admin now as a state, you watch, they’ll pull contracts, everything, he is that petty.

  73. I heard that!

    Yeah, right! Squat has no intention of watching the election results.

    Wonder what Mo is doing?
    Think she’s on a sleeve-ripping rampage or a Bo-bashing bout?

  74. We’re very happy that Bill and Hillary are far far away from this mess tonight. Bill campaigned as little as needed and then went to see his statue. Hillary is at work, as usual.

    Obama is smoking, Michelle is yanking.

  75. WOW!

    Corzine’s Intrade numbers down to 38 from a high of 56.

    I heard Intrade was very accurate during the ’08 election.

    Anyone know about that?

  76. I’m glad the Clinton’s have managed to avoid this train wreck, too.

    Hope they’re having wonderful time wherever they are, whatever they’re doing.

    Krauthammer talking about how ephemeral the ’08 (s)election was.

  77. Words of warning: thus far the Democratic counties (Essex, Hudson) are still not reporting. Newark seems to be a bust for Corzine. Maybe cousin Pookie is still on the sofa in NJ too.

  78. I know it’s way early but here’s the NJ numbers so far via Drudge.

    NJ: 167,323 Christie [R] 134,055 Corzine [D] 18,373 Daggett [I]

  79. evening all…..sorry i am late, been busy taking care of my mom

    via drudge just now:

    NJ: 207,647 Christie [R] 154,146 Corzine [D] 21,697 Daggett [I

  80. twitter dot com/JimPethokoukis/status/5408764560

    NY-23 exit polls at 5:00 PM – Hoffman (Conservative): 50.3%, Owens (Dem) 47.2%, Scozzfava (Rep) 2.5%

  81. OK. I answer my own questions. 😈

    “If Cousin Pookie would vote, if Uncle Jethro would get off the couch and stop watching SportsCenter and go register some folks and go to the polls, we might have a different kind of politics.”

    So Squat has a cousin Pookie invoked in times of electoral need?

  82. Here we go again…

    ————–
    November 03, 2009

    New Jersey Hospital Denies Claim That ACORN Workers Collected Absentee Ballots

    A New Jersey hospital is denying accusations that ACORN workers have been inside collecting absentee ballots for the state’s gubernatorial race.

    East Orange General Hospital CEO Kevin Slavin said Tuesday that “all proper protocols” were followed as part of its program to allow patients to vote via absentee ballot, and that no third-party groups were signing up patients.

    “Other than the specifically designated and trained staff to hand out and collect these ballots, no advocacy groups were authorized nor allowed access to the hospital to hand out absentee ballots to patients as has been recently reported in unsubstantiated blogs and on political talk shows,” he said in a written statement.

    Slavin was referring to reports that claimed people wearing ACORN shirts were spotted distributing and collecting absentee ballots at a hospital in the area. The Wall Street Journal reported this Monday, as did BigGovernment.com — the Web site that publicized recent undercover operations in which ACORN workers were filmed giving tax advice to two activists posing as a pimp and prostitute.

    The claim comes on top of reports that the New Jersey Democratic State Committee has admitted to paying for a robo-call promoting independent gubernatorial candidate Chris Daggett and criticizing Republican Chris Christie.

    Lawyers representing Christie on Tuesday called for an “immediate investigation,” saying unless the robo-calls were conducted in coordination with Daggett, “they are not permitted by law.”

    The ACORN accusation potentially can be traced in part to an e-mail, allegedly from the husband of a hospital worker, claiming his wife saw and spoke with the activists. A New Jersey GOP official provided the e-mail to FoxNews.com but could not corroborate its authenticity.

    “ACORN is working the hospitals in Orange in Newark. Registering up to 10 people for absentee ballots and submitting it for them on their behalf,” the e-mail said.

    If true, the official said, this would be a clear “oversight” on the part of the hospital.

    New Jersey law allows third parties to collect a limited amount of absentee ballots, but the official said it would be troubling if activists were involved.

    “There’s no way to tell if there was any pressure involved,” the official said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/new-jersey-hospital-denies-claim-acorn-workers-collected-absentee-ballots/

  83. Looks like BO’s coalition is in the garbage can tonight! LOL~~

    BTW, My daughter just got released from the hospital tonight, her 02 sats came up today. She is feeling much better.

    Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers and info!

  84. A commentator on another blog said that new show V is an Obama documentary. LOL~~

    I watched and its true right down to the part when the V President told the newsman that he could not ask any questions that would show them in a bad light. Sounds like the current WH to me!!

  85. Fox TV bottom screen scroll has Christie 5+ above Corzine but Hoffman losing to Owens.

    But it’s early.

    I would settle for a Christie win rather than a Hoffman although I’d prefer both.

  86. no need, Christie is running about 10% better than the republican in 2005, i think he wins this, the margins in dem counties is way off the last election

    Christie took Gloucester county off corzine with a swing of 10%.

  87. sorry I’m late to the party folks was running around with the kids, going to work in a half hour waiting anxiously for the NJ race to be called. Confloyd great news on you daughter. Hopefully they call Nj before I go to work.

  88. My favorite show NCIS was on tonight so there was absolutely no chance I would want to watch “V” even if I had been so inclined.

  89. Why is Hoffman trailing Owens??????

    Anyone have any insight about this?
    ———-

    I am guessing on this: The independents are usually socially liberal but fiscally conservatives. Hoffman is very socially conservative as well as fiscally conservative which would put off some indies!!!

  90. amazing that with all the money Bloomberg threw into the NY mayor race, as well as changing the term limits to suit himself, that the race is so close right now.

  91. well that Kaine and Warner who got behind BO’s ass big time last year said “hillary win as president who make virginia go BIG RED”!!!!!

    Eff you warner/kaine!!!!!! You lost the governship for the dems by your dismal support for that zero!!!!!

  92. JanH
    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    My favorite show NCIS was on tonight so there was absolutely no chance I would want to watch “V” even if I had been so inclined.
    ———————————–
    Jan i am glad to hear that you watch NCIS. My son is one of the writers on the show.

    Keep watching so they can get the ratings.

  93. Good for Christie!

    Almost makes me want to move back to NJ. (NOT!)

    Hopefully Paterson will go the way of Corzine in 2010.

  94. neetabug,

    Tell your son that the stories are fantastic. You must be very proud.

    ————
    LOL…I guess we are all excited about New Jersey.

  95. jtjames,

    Dontchaknow Squat ain’t watching and Mo’s at a Miley Cyrus concert with the tweens?

    😈

    Good insight, mp. thanks.

  96. JanH, Neetabug

    I am a NCIS Groupy, and have become a devote fane. Glad to know I have company. Confloyd, glad to hear the good news about your daughter. My significant other had Bronchitist in the Spring. It was rough getting his sats up. I hope her life gets better.

    Interesting Election Night.

  97. JanH, Neetabug

    I am a NCIS Groupy, and have become a devote fane. Glad to know I have company. Confloyd, glad to hear the good news about your daughter. My significant other had Bronchitist in the Spring. It was rough getting his sats up. I hope her life gets better.

    Interesting Election Night.

  98. It is interesting that few of the young voters that put us in this mess decided not to vote. In fact, it makes me mad.

  99. JanH
    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
    neetabug,

    Tell your son that the stories are fantastic. You must be very proud.
    ———————————-
    I will out in Ca next month, i will be meeting the cast of NCIS will take pictures.
    While he was a writer for JAG i went to the cast party.
    —————————————
    ADMIN

    This is a GREAT DAY FOR US. ARE THE BOTS WAKING UP

  100. Idon;t believe for a minute he is not watching.

    He is not only watching he is also crying. He is starting to crumble.

  101. neetabug….. i am huge CSI fan and my fav is NCIS

    does he write for the new show ncis la? they say its the #1 new show this season
    but i have to say i think its my least fav of the csi shows. but i watch it 😀

  102. neetabug
    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    ————-
    OMG! You are so lucky to be able to meet the cast. This is one show where I actually like all of the main characters, which doesn’t happen that often to me.

    I loved watching Jag as well.

  103. so bambi went to New Jersey how many times to wave his magic wand? Oh dear. I bet that ego of his is feeling a little dented right now.

  104. does he write for the new show ncis la? they say its the #1 new show this season
    but i have to say i think its my least fav of the csi shows. but i watch it
    ——————————-
    Yes

    He says it will get better

  105. I love NCIS too, but I did not realize that V was on the same station. I won’t be watching V again, I just wanted to see it resembled the “Yes WE Can” campaign, it was almost identical, for the exception it was a woman.

    I am a NCIS fan too, I watch it and then watch the reruns on all day sometimes. Tony is my favorite.

  106. Corzine won’t even get to 45% of the vote in overwhelming Democratic New Jersey. NY23 is next. Owens is winning but only because the Dem districts are the ones reporting.

  107. What a referendum on the “the One”. I bet they are all saying its because Bush screwed everything up and he is black.

  108. Confloyd: Great news about your daughter! (((Hugs))).

    Christie is no prize, but it was better to see the BOT Corzine get beaten.

  109. neetabug……thanks for the reply and that is good to hear about ncsi LA getting better as i love the cast members.

  110. admin says:

    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
    Corzine is now conceding. Obama’s new slogan “Change is hard. No, we can’t.”

    *********************************

    OMG…too funny!

  111. jtjames
    November 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
    I have a New Gov in NJ, and he’s not a bot…..
    ********************************************
    Corzine was not a bot…he supported Hillary until she bailed…I actually live in NJ, have a large family here, and although I understand the BO hatred…can anyone tell me how exactly Christie is going to be good for NJ????

  112. jeleanoro, I think America is just scared as hell, and the rethugs are reaping the benefits they don’t deserve. Its sad that people forget who/what got us in this mess. The DNC is to blame, they wanted their messiah, instead of Hillary. She told Obama when you cheat you will never be a legitimate candidate and it showed tonight and will continue. The polls that are showing him at 49% are jacked up by the Obama coalition.

  113. I wonder how George Soros feels tonight?? He he is going to take over the world, he’d better hurry cause the people are pist.

  114. Jeleanoro, the election of Obama has plunged us all into an abyss. The sad news is that Christie will likely not improve your life. The Republicans are not the answer. But the undemocratic Dimocrats are not the answer either.

    At this point we are scrounging for crumbs. The crumbs we cling to now is the restoration of a Democratic Party that will represent the people. But that Democratic Party will not be reborn without devastating, crushing defeat for the Obama Dimocratic Party. Unfortunately, until elected officials begin to tear away from Obama there will be no HOPE. Corzine tied his ship to Obama and a victory for Corzine would have been a victory for Obama and his corruptions.

    The little consolation to be had is that with tonight’s election results we are one election closer to getting rid of Obama and his horrid creation – the Obama Dimocratic Party. Next year will be the next shattering blow. Only then will Democrats demand a return to sanity and the rebirth of the Democratic Party.

  115. Neetabug, I like Hetty on NCIS LA, and it looks to me like her role has grown in just the first 3 episodes.

  116. admin…I know you’re right about the Dimocratic party, I cringed everytime I heard that BO was coming back to NJ. You know the Independent Daggett wasn’t half bad…The Star Ledger actually endorsed him instead of the Dem or Repub…but I think he only got 5% of the vote!

  117. Hoffman lost!

    D@mn!

    These friggin pollsters are so off with their predictions.

    I hope that #!%$#!! Scabafuka is proud of herself. Traitor.

  118. I feel like I am in an alternate universe wishing for a Republican to win, when they aren’t going to do anything to help the American people. Both parties are incompetent and corrupt. I just don’t want the corruption to win. BO did spend a lot of time on the behalf of Corzine, with little to no benefit. The democratic win in NY State is being touted as a huge victory for the democrats, the DNC, and Pelousy.

  119. Goodnight to cousin Pookie and Uncle Jethro.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-11-03-health-care_N.htm

    In a blow to the White House, the Senate’s top Democrat signaled Tuesday that Congress may fail to meet a year-end deadline for passing health care legislation, leaving the measure’s fate to the uncertainties of the 2010 election season.

    Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., spoke as Democratic officials said it could be December before Senate debate begins in earnest on the legislation atop President Obama’s domestic agenda, months after senior lawmakers and the White House had hoped. [snip]

    While Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and House leaders weighed final changes to their version of the bill, Reid for the first time publicly raised the possibility that lawmakers would not be able to meet their — and Obama’s — self-imposed deadline of completing work on health care by year’s end.

    “We’re not going to be bound by any timelines. We need to do the best job we can for the American people,” he said after the weekly closed-door meeting of rank-and-file Democrats.

    At the White House, spokesman Dan Pfeiffer sought to put the best face on the developments.

  120. Per sfgate.com

    (11-03) 21:22 PST Sacramento, Calif. (AP) —

    Lt. Gov. John Garamendi has won a Calif. congressional seat, keeping it in Democratic hands.

    He was an early Hillary supporter, if I remember correctly.

  121. My father once said, when the chickens come home to roost, they bring their strange new friends from the city with them.

  122. If you think the election results reflect poorly on the white house, think not.

    Huffington Post just dissuaded me so with it’s blaring red headline,

    “It’s the economy (NOT OBAMA) stupid.”


  123. Swine flu and the downside of positive thinking

    The government and Big Pharma were depressingly optimistic about their ability to produce the H1N1 vaccine.

    [….] An Oct. 26 headline in the New York Times put it this way: “Road to Flu Vaccine Shortfall, Paved With Undue Optimism.” The vaccine shortage is “threatening to undermine public confidence in government,” the article concluded.

    But let’s stop a minute and ask: Who really screwed up here — the government or private pharmaceutical companies, including Glaxo- SmithKline, Novartis and three others that had agreed to manufacture and deliver the vaccine by late fall? Last spring and summer, those companies gleefully gobbled up $2 billion worth of government contracts for vaccine production, promising to have every American, or at least every American child and pregnant woman, supplied with vaccine by now.

    According to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the government was misled by the companies, which failed to report manufacturing delays as they arose. Her department, she says, was “relying on the manufacturers to give us their numbers, and as soon as we got numbers, we put them out to the public. It does appear now that those numbers were overly rosy.”

    If, in fact, there’s a political parable here, it’s about big government’s naive and trusting reliance on big business to safeguard the public health: Let the private insurance companies manage health financing; let profit-making hospital chains deliver healthcare; let Big Pharma provide safe and affordable medications. As it happens, though, all these entities have a priority that regularly overrides the public’s health, and that is, of course, profit — which has led insurance companies to function as “death panels,” excluding those who might ever need care, and for-profit hospitals to turn away the indigent, the pregnant and the uninsured.

    As for Big Pharma, the truth is that it’s just not all that into vaccines, preferring to manufacture drugs for such plagues as erectile dysfunction, social anxiety and restless leg syndrome. Vaccines can be tricky and less than maximally profitable to manufacture. They go out of style with every microbial mutation, and usually it’s the government, rather than cunning direct-to-consumer commercials, that determines who gets them.

    One reason for this year’s delay is the 50-year-old technology employed by most drug manufacturers, in which the vaccine is produced in chicken eggs. Chicken eggs are fine for omelets, but they have quickly proved to be a poor growth medium for the viral “seed” strain used to make H1N1 vaccine, causing the drug companies to overestimate how many doses they could get from each egg used. In Europe, meanwhile, which has been ahead of the U.S. in approving new manufacturing technologies, some vaccine for the new flu has been produced with much faster “cell culture” methods.


    h/ no w
    drugpolicycentral.com/bot/article/latimes7133.htm

    Article was here but gone:
    h/w
    latimes.com/features/health/la-oe-ehernreich4-2009nov04,0,856771.story

  124. Great election coverage here. Just a couple of comments came to my mind.
    admin Nov 3 at 5:54 pm re BlueDog Jason Altmire PA-4th.
    PA primary 2008; Hillary won Altmire’s district by 60 points. Altmire endorsed POTUS. (This stat frequently available at pumapac site during the summer of 2008).
    JanH Nov 3 at 10:37 pm – how many times did bambi go to NJ?
    CBS NY at 5 PM Election Day: Obama came to NJ several times. HAH! Other sources said 3 times, a few said 4 times. Point: he came plenty of times but CBS was not pointing that out before the polls closed.

    We have a lot to be thankful for this day!

  125. The extremely worrying there here for Dems is this…….independents who deserted the party in droves last night. They went for the republican by more than 3:2. Thats is gonna be the glaring bullet at Obama this morning.

  126. Thanks for the amazing blogging last night. You truely make election nights come alive for me. I have learned more about politics on this blog since I have joined it, than any civicss class taken so long ago.

  127. Good things are starting to happen for Hillary in spite of the Fringe Media attempts to villify Bill and Hill.The messiah must now be aware that what goes up must come down.His impatient stimulus base realize that he cannot deliver and did not turn out
    and the promised restitution is not forthcoming.
    Barnum had it right “there is one born every second of every election.Time is now to continue
    the fight for Hillary and back off mundane and
    boring non-related subjects. The subject must be Hillary or we will fail in the fight to save our country.Soros is out there waiting to strike the death blow to our Democracy.

    By ABM90 The messiah is a one termer and he gets the message this morning and more to com each day.

  128. The repubs are now in gloat mode. The unfortunate truth is that in this case both the repubs and the dims are the complete opposite of the “lesser of the two evils.” Neither has put America first in years.

    The only thing this does is become a jumping point for 2010 to balance both sides a little more instead of a majority of dimwitted dims. And as far as satisfaction goes, it did take the wind out of obama’s sails for one night and bring him down to earth.

    Otherwise, I don’t see where the euphoria comes in.

  129. The local programs are full if it. They are saying this is always the trend after a Presidential election for the last 20 years, and then they say the exit polls say it is the economy, and the inability of the Dims to turn out its base. They don’t discuss why.

  130. Other Obama lines in the sand are also getting blurred. A one-year deadline to close Guantanamo? It won’t happen. Pass health care before the August recess? Didn’t work out. Crack down on Israeli settlements to restart the Mideast peace process? Not anymore.

    The tension between transformational ambitions and conventional instincts even carries over to Obama’s personal style. What happened to the new Camelot that was to dawn over the Potomac?

    “I think that was writers planting their hopes on the first couple. I think that was fantasy,” said Carol Joynt, who writes on the Washington scene for the New York Social Diary. “They’re behaving like parents who travel a lot and live in a big house. … I haven’t seen what some other people got all wound up about. I haven’t seen radical change in fashion. I haven’t seen radical change in the social scene.”

    This sense of disappointment, of letdown — how can a campaign that shattered so many expectations have produced a presidency that already feels quite ordinary? — extends from the nearly cosmic to the nearly comical. What could be more conventional — more downright old-fashioned — than a president who likes to golf every Sunday, whose idea of sweeping change extends to lowering his own handicap?

    “We thought we were getting a man of action. Instead, we got someone who’ll spend six hours chasing a white ball around a park,” Joe Mathews, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation, said, with tongue planted only partly in cheek. “If voters had known about the golf, they would have been less surprised by his lack of urgency on many issues.”

    ——

  131. hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ELECTION_RDP?SITE=NMALJ&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-11-04-10-04-20

    H stuff no Ws

    As they try to brush off the results, some of the media is beginning to do their jobs.

  132. Is it true that Obama asked his supporters in Maine to spend their time in NJ campaigning for Corzine — instead of in Maine working for the gay marriage ballot issue?

    I hope gays will remember this betrayal!

  133. What did Hoffman lose by?? THey probably fixed that race because that shows that Sarah doesn’t have as much power Obama and the dims want to cover that up as long as they can.

  134. Elton John AIDS Foundation To Honor Sharon Stone And Bill Clinton

    November 4, 2009 by Tim Saunders

    The Elton John AIDS Foundation will honor Sharon Stone and Bill Clinton at a charity event this month.

    The Enduring Vision Gala is an annual event that last year raised over $2 million for the organization. Sir Elton’s event has attracted celebrities such as Gladys Knight, Tim Allen and Whoopi Goldberg in the past, and this year’s event promises to be bigger than ever.

    Sir Elton set up his AIDS Foundation to provide funding for educational programs targeted at HIV/AIDS prevention and/or the elimination of prejudice and discrimination against HIV/AIDS-affected individuals, and for programs that provide services to people living with or at risk for HIV/AIDS.

    The gala will take place on November 16 at Cipriani Wall Street in New York.

    http://www.looktothestars.org/news/3348-elton-john-aids-foundation-to-honor-sharon-stone-and-bill-clinton

  135. Hoffman lost bu 3-4%. A great showing considering scabbafuka was still on the ballot and got 5%.

    Meantime, the Indies have abandoned the Squat sinking ship.

    In NJ they went for Christies by 60-40% and the numbers are similar in Va.

    BARF ALERT! WH is saying Squat watched an HBO documentary about his historic victory last night!!!!!

  136. basil9

    That is probably his only accomplishment, and he got there by frauding the primary. That is his whole life and political history.

  137. BARF ALERT! WH is saying Squat watched an HBO documentary about his historic victory last night!!!!!

    of course he did….. he’s a narcissis (he’s all about self adulation)

  138. OBAMA MISUSE OF POLITICAL CAPITAL:

    Not knowing when to punt, when to try for fourth and one, Obama overspent political capital in NJ, provided underwhelming support to NYC’s Thompson (to canoodle up to Bloomberg, who now looks like a very lame duck), and sprinted away from Deeds in VA.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29113.html

    Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s stunningly narrow re-election in New York was a moral defeat for the billionaire incumbent, and a profound embarrassment for a Democratic establishment – from the White House on down — that abandoned his rival, City Comptroller Bill Thompson, as a hopeless loser.

    Bloomberg’s meager five-point win left Democrats pondering what might have been if New York’s Democratic donors hadn’t turned their back on Thompson, if its politicians had worked for him, and most of all if President Barack Obama had offered anything more than the lamest words of praise.

    “Maybe one of those Corzine trips could have been better spent in New York. Who knows?” remarked New York Rep. Anthony Weiner, who weighed his own run for mayor, referring to the White House’s devout attention to the New Jersey contest.

    “Maybe Anthony Weiner should have manned-up and run against Michael Bloomberg,” shot back a White House official, who attributed the night’s results across the board to anti-incumbent fervor.

    The New York race deepened the impression that a White House that prides itself on resisting conventional political analysis had badly misjudged the key contests Tuesday — committing itself most heavily to a New Jersey election that Republican Chris Christie won handily, studiously avoiding a referendum to preserve same-sex marriage that was defeated in Maine and giving up too early in New York City.

    But Obama wasn’t alone in abandoning Thompson. The city’s Democratic donors – source of millions for the likes of Obama and Senator Chuck Schumer – closed their wallets to the Brooklyn-born Thompson, who spent less than 10 percent of the $90 million spent by Bloomberg.

    The city’s top politicians also kept their distance, with City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, a Bloomberg ally, endorsing Thompson so late that he, out of pique, refused to appear with her to accept her backing.

    But the president’s tepid endorsement appeared particularly calculated, and held particular sting.

    Obama’s spokesman at first refused even to say Thompson’s name. And Obama’s late, weak backing did little to soothe irritation among New York’s black leaders that the first black president – who had already tried to torpedo the state’s floundering African-American governor – kept the African-American mayoral candidate at such a distance.

    For Obama, the political reward was in associating himself with the independent Bloomberg and his non-partisan national image, not a fellow urban politician – and especially one who had appeared headed for a crushing defeat. That might have been the smart, unsentimental political choice, but locally, it made Obama seem just a bit too infatuated with the billionaire mayor.

    Thompson, in his concession speech Tuesday night, declared a kind of moral victory, looking as buoyant as he ever had in the course of a bruising campaign.

    “Some told me to sit this one out,” he said. “This campaign was about defying conventional wisdom. This campaign was [about] never backing down in the face of a formidable challenge.”

    Bloomberg, in turn, made no reference to the unexpectedly slim margin, but downplayed his differences with Thompson, whom he’d pummeled with endless negative television advertisements.

    The mayor appeared to write off the surprising squeaker – he beat Thompson 51 percent to 46 percent — to anti-incumbent sentiment.

    “The public has been very clear and some incumbents have learned that they are tired of politics as usual,” Bloomberg said, and indeed, a neighboring executive, Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi appeared Tuesday to be struggling to hold on Tuesday in another surprising outcome.

    Bloomberg could not have run with more institutional support. He had the backing of dozens of newspaper editorial boards, including the major papers – the New York Times, Daily News, and Post – and a score of ethnic publications. The city’s main Russian-language newspaper seemed to capture the spirit of the race on the Friday before the election with a front page endorsement under the headline: “There is only one choice: Mike Bloomberg.”

    Voters, however, clearly saw two choices, and the result shocked and confounded the city’s political class.

    “I’m stunned,” said Doug Muzzio, a professor of public affairs at Baruch College who closely follows city politics. “Good thing he spent $100-plus million — unless the relentless multimedia barrage reminded folks that Bloomberg was an arrogant, out of touch plutocrat.”

    Others said a round of Democratic primaries should have pointed to an electorate ready to push back.

    “The primary proved that voters were deeply unhappy about term limits,” said a consultant to incoming Public Advocate Bill de Blasio, Rebecca Kirszner Katz. “The runoff showed that polling is highly unpredictable in this environment.”

    And Bloomberg’s aides found themselves explaining a narrow margin that is well under the numbers posted even by incumbents more widely viewed as embattled, like Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who won reelection earlier this year with 55 percent of the vote.

    Bloomberg aide Howard Wolfson defended the mayor’s victory to reporters at Bloomberg’s victory party at a Manhattan hotel, the New York Observer reported.

    “This is the most difficult environment for incumbents that I’ve seen since 1994,” he said. “You know, whether the Yankees win in four, or five, or six or seven, they’re going to be world champions. On January 1, Michael Bloomberg is going to be the mayor of New York.”

  139. With the overconfident, under-experience Obama as head coach, expect lots of “coulda-woulda” losses.

    Obama will be the boon to the Republican party that they could never do on their own.

  140. OBAMA THROWS SUPPORTERS UNDER THE BUS AGAIN.

    In the Feeble Excuses category, we have a winner…envelope please…

    turndownobama
    November 4th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Is it true that Obama asked his supporters in Maine to spend their time in NJ campaigning for Corzine — instead of in Maine working for the gay marriage ballot issue?

    I hope gays will remember this betrayal!
    &&&&&&

    Turndown, your wish has been granted:

    politico.com/politico44/perm/1109/explaining_maine_b8b2c72e-6485-4e8e-9bb9-8d9b2e1a654d.html

    Explaining Maine
    W.H.: POTUS doesn’t do ballots
    By JOSH GERSTEIN | 11/04/09 11:11 AM

    Asked why President Obama didn’t get involved in the debate over a Maine ballot initiative that narrowly repealed a law approving gay marriages Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters the president simply doesn’t get involved in referenda.

    “The president typically doesn’t and hasn’t gotten involved in ballot initiatives,” Gibbs said Wednesday morning.

    Gay rights advocates have expressed dismay at the White House’s decision not to actively help supporters of gay marriage in Maine, who fell narrowly short of scoring the first popular win for same-sex marriage at the polls last night.

  141. Yesterday’s crossword puzzle had a quote from Mario Cuomo as the main theme of the puzzle: “You campaign in poetry, you govern in prose”.

    Obama, a fish out of water when it comes to anything more involved than “inspiring people”, continues his endless campaign strategy, attempting to govern in poetry.

    “Hey, should I give another speech?”

  142. CIA agents guilty of Italy kidnap

    An Italian judge has convicted 23 CIA agents and two Italian secret agents of the kidnap of a Muslim cleric in 2003. The agents were accused of abducting Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, known as Abu Omar, from Milan and sending him to Egypt, where he was allegedly tortured.

    The trial, which began in June 2007, is the first involving the CIA’s so-called “extraordinary rendition” programme.

    Three Americans and five Italians have been acquitted in the case. The CIA agents were all tried in their absence.

    The CIA’s Milan station chief at the time, Robert Lady, was given an eight-year term, while the other 22 Americans convicted were sentenced to five years in prison.

    The two Italian agents were given three-year prison terms.

    Italian prosecutors said Abu Omar was taken as part of a series of extraordinary renditions carried out by the CIA – when terror suspects were moved between countries without any public legal process.

    They told the court he had been kidnapped in daylight on a Milan street in 2003 and flown to Germany, and then Egypt, where he was held for years until being released without charge.

    Judge Oscar Magi said the CIA chief for Italy, Jeffrey Castelli, was protected by state secrecy laws, as were the former head of Italy’s military intelligence agency, Nicolo Pollari, and his deputy, Marco Mancini.

    Mr Pollari, who resigned over the affair, told the court earlier this year that documents showing he had no involvement in the kidnapping were classified under secrecy laws.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8343123.stm

  143. Bill Clinton links extremism, lack of opportunity

    By ADAM SCHRECK

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Former President Bill Clinton on Wednesday drew a link between extremism and lack of opportunity in the Middle East, telling students in the region that suicide bombers are driven by a feeling they have more to gain in the afterlife than now.

    The former president hushed a packed basketball stadium at the American University in Dubai when he asked, rhetorically: “What leads people to suicide bombing?”
    Answering his own question, Clinton said: “They believe they have more to gain in the next world than this one.”

    “They believe that change is not possible through reasoned, common efforts,” he continued. “They believe that, absent some cataclysmic and destructive event, that tomorrow is going to be just like yesterday.” That feeling, he said, is the “major danger” confronting Palestinians and Israelis today.

    “If we keep going on where the Palestinians are absolutely convinced that tomorrow is going to be just like yesterday, it can have calamitous consequences not just for them, but for all the rest of you as well,” he said.

    Clinton’s comments came as his wife, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, was elsewhere in the region defending the U.S. stance toward Israeli settlement to worried Arab allies.

    After meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo, the secretary of state told reporters that Washington does not accept the legitimacy of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. But she said an Israeli offer to restrain — but not halt — construction represents “positive movement forward” toward resuming stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations.

    The former president’s comments in Dubai — a peaceful enclave that has largely been spared the region’s violent extremism — were part of a broader address urging students to work to overcome the triple challenges of inequality, instability and unsustainability he said confront the world today.

    In the talk, he praised the American-style university for offering young women the same chances as young men, drawing enthusiastic applause when he said such equality was “key to the future of the Middle East.” He also highlighted the need promote education, equality and economic opportunity in fighting extremism in Afghanistan and Pakistan, saying “we cannot shoot our way out of the world’s instability.”

    “Peace is not just the absence of conflict,” the former president said. “It is the presence of opportunity and cooperation and a sense of justice and fairness and movement.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hPPABcCfJz_BUq9nlfLf18mwRb_QD9BOR77O1

  144. Just for the record, Owens is a registered independent.

    Dems pick Plattsburgh attorney
    23RD CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT: Owens, a registered independent, helped redevelop Air Force base site
    By JUDE SEYMOUR
    TIMES STAFF WRITER
    TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, 2009

    “Mr. Owens is not a Republican, but he’s not a Democrat, either. The attorney is a registered independent.”

  145. The GOP just dropped a nuke on the Democrats.

    Per CNN, the Republicans added an amendment to the Democrat’s plan that’ll require all of Congress to take and use the “Public Option” as their only health insurance.

  146. basil9
    November 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    Bwahahahahahahahaha!

    that bill is dead dead dead!!!!!!
    ———————————————————————————–

    Or, at least the public option part.

  147. Alex Jones Fall Of The Republic – The Presidency Of Barack H Obama – The Full Movie HQ

    youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

    a must see video!!

  148. Alex Jone’s Fall Of The Republic documents how an offshore corporate cartel is bankrupting the US economy by design. Leaders are now declaring that world government has arrived and that the dollar will be replaced.

    full HQ video here: length: 2:24:23

    youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

  149. Well I think that race where Owens won is the real thing, it shows the people are sick of both extremists in both parties and want a real independent party.

  150. Thanks admin for posting that video.. i am still watching it now and it is very well done.
    sorry about the double post…it never showed either time i tried.

    alex jones has asked it be passed around far and wide… now i am not really a jones follower but i do believe this video needs to be seen far and wide.

  151. Just watch Obama give a speech in a school somewhere and the crux of the speech was to unveil the “race to the future” in which school will be competing for billions of dollars. He said the students will be competing on an international level. I don’t know what this means for the exception is he has already signed over our soveignty. He stumbled a little with he said those words “international level” because he knows of the implication. I hope Glenn Beck heard that speech.

  152. confloyd i am truly hopeful that in 2010 the american people will vote for alot more independant candidates. and we can finally make a 3rd party as strong as the dims and rino’s

  153. Clinton lauds oldest Peace Corps volunteer, an 85-year-old

    Charley Keyes,
    November 4, 2009

    (CNN) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Tuesday praised as “one of the best” the oldest Peace Corps volunteer in the world, an 85-year old Florida woman serving in Morocco.

    Clinton recognized Muriel Johnston during a meet-and-greet session of U.S. Embassy officials and other Americans in Marrakech, Morocco. Clinton was representing the U.S. at an international conference in Morocco, during a trip that stretched from Pakistan to the Middle East.

    “I have to recognize — I just learned about this last night — Muriel Johnston. Muriel? Stand up, Muriel,” Clinton said to applause and cheers from Johnston’s fellow Peace Corps workers and other Americans.

    “My young staff said, ‘Oh my goodness, Muriel Johnston, she’s the oldest Peace Corps volunteer in the world.’ I said, ‘That’s not the way we think about it.’ No, Muriel and I might say she is one of the best Peace Corps volunteers in the world,” Clinton said to more applause, emphasizing “best.”

    “And it’s also a great reminder that in America in the 21st century, there are not only second acts, there’s third acts and fourth acts and fifth acts and — if you’re ready to embrace new challenges,” Clinton said.

    Later, Clinton shook hands with Johnston and asked if she was enjoying herself.

    “I’m having a wonderful time, ” Johnston told the secretary.

    Johnston is serving as a health worker in the Moroccan province of Azilal. She hails from New York but has lived in Sebastian, Florida, since 1992. Peace Corps headquarters in Washington confirmed that she is the oldest Peace Corps volunteer currently serving.

    She is one of more than 7,600 Peace Corps volunteers at work in 75 countries.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/03/morocco.us.peace.corp.senior/

  154. Alright Hillary, this means that never say never. She will run again. Lets hope so, this group that chose Obama over her are getting their asses kicked. People want a centrist and they overwhelmingly said so last night. No far right and NO far left. They want another Bill Clinton.

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