The World Series: The Hillary Clinton Coalition Versus The Barack Obama Coalition, Part I

It’s not a game, but in politics the day to tally contest results is election day.

Tomorrow is election day in the United States and we will see the first results in the contest between the Republican Party versus the Obamination Party (formerly the great Democratic Party which once represented the working class and the middle class).

We will also measure the new “situation comedy” coalition which Barack Obama and his Hopium addled minions declared would “harden” into a permanent “transformational” majority. We will also compare that Obamination coalition with the FDR coalition which Hillary Clinton wielded to victory after victory even as Dimocratic leaders insisted Obama was the one for them.

Today, and tomorrow, and on Wednesday we will look at Tuesday’s nation-wide elections in the United States and map out the historic mistake the Democratic Party made when it gifted Obama the nomination and rejected the winning, and filled with growth potential, Hillary Clinton coalition.

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We will discuss the coalition built by Hillary Clinton and the situation comedy demographics of the Barack Obama circus but we would be remiss if we ignored the latest actions by those personalities.

While Barack Obama and his costumed, silly, wife partied for Halloween in a no longer white, but rather garish orange-lit house, Bill Clinton was receiving his earned peace prize. Bill Clinton was in Kosovo to unveil a statue.

Capitalist vendors in Washington will soon be selling mock Nobel Peace Prize amulets with Obama’s face but they likely will not sell. Obama does not sell anymore:

A quick look around downtown Washington confirms that the Obama trinkets are still for sale, but more than one strategically placed street hawker have found little point in displaying the T-shirts, posters, and “Yes We Can” buttons bearing the new president’s image.

“They stay in the truck,” grumbled a vendor who identified himself as “Dick,” as he pointed to a rusty vehicle behind him. “They don’t sell anymore.

Indeed, Obama’s honeymoon with the American people lasted less than six months.

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have reputations based on hard work, not gimmicks sold to the gullible. Bill Clinton is not gifted by anyone, anything. Bill Clinton earned a peace prize from people whose lives were saved by Bill Clinton:

Thousands of ethnic Albanians braved low temperatures and a cold wind in Kosovo’s capital to welcome Bill Clinton yesterday as the former president attended the unveiling of an 11-foot statue of himself on a key boulevard that also bears his name. [snip]

Many of those gathered waved American, Albanian, and Kosovo flags and chanted “USA!’’ as Clinton climbed atop a podium with a poster behind it reading “Kosovo honors a hero.’’ Some peeked out of balconies and leaned on window sills to get a better view. To thunderous applause, Clinton waved to the crowd as a red cover was pulled from the statue. [snip]

Clinton also addressed Kosovo’s 120-seat assembly, encouraging members to forgive and move on from the violence of the past.[snip]

An estimated 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed during the Kosovo crackdown, and about 800,000 were forced from their homes. They returned after NATO-led peacekeepers moved in following 78 days of bombing.

[picture slideshow of Bill Clinton in Kosovo HERE]

Hillary Clinton too has been busy trying to save the world even as she is hampered by the Obama inexperience and the contempt of world leaders for the pushover who is ultimately responsible, but continues to blame others for his bumbling.

In a situation with no “good” guys, just a bunch of conflicting interests and bad choices Hillary Clinton proved her mettle:

The Honduran tragicomedy that has consumed the hemisphere’s diplomats for months is at an end (read the details here). Barring the unforeseeable, which is always an iffy thing to do in Honduras, the coupster is out, the mercurial elected president is back in (pending a face-saving vote by Congress and the Supreme Court), and an election to replace him will be held on November 29, as planned.

In light of all this, who was the winner in the Honduran crisis? [snip]

The real winner in this drama is the top diplomat for the key power who quietly, patiently pushed for this settlement all along. It was Hillary Clinton’s State Department that first pressed for an agreement along these lines. It was State that asked Costa Rican president Oscar Arias to mediate a deal like this, and it was State that stepped into the breach when the Arias compromise fell apart: They dispatched Assistant Secretary of State for the West Hemisphere, Thomas Shannon, to Tegucigalpa on multiple occasions to help settle the dispute.

It’s therefore fitting that, from far off Islamabad, it fell to Hillary Clinton to announce the deal. Hailing the “historic agreement” between the two sides, she went on to stress that “I cannot think of another example of a country in Latin America that, having suffered a rupture of its democratic and constitutional order, overcame such a crisis through negotiation and dialogue.”

Hillary managed the unmanageable. The elected Mel Zelaya, whose actions sparked the crisis, will return as president but now will be a weakened lame duck who must head a “unity government”. The leader of the coup, Roberto Micheletti is forced to respect the electoral process and possible legal consequences. Hugo Chaves of Venezuela lost a potential vassal state and prestige before his followers, and the Organization of American States failed without Hillary.

Hard work Hillary is busy saving the world while show horse Obama struts and primps at Halloween parties. Show horse Obama is now limping while work horse Hillary gallops along. The lesson of hard work is a lesson the working class and the middle class understand. It’s a lesson the Dimocrats are about to re-learn tomorrow.

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Tomorrow and Wednesday we will address the FDR coalition of Democrats and independents which Hillary Clinton forged versus the Obama coalition. The New York Times asks the correct question about tomorrow which we will try to answer in the next few days:

In an effort they are calling “Yes We Can 2.0,” Corzine campaign officials are devoting millions of dollars and thousands of volunteers to try to bring back to the polls those 442,000 New Jersey residents who had never voted before Mr. Obama’s election last November. They are flooding them with phone calls, mail and text messages, hoping to contact each of them at least eight times before Tuesday. [snip]

Whether the first-time Obama voters turn out could make a crucial difference in this race, with most polls showing Mr. Corzine and his Republican opponent, Christopher J. Christie, still running neck and neck two days before the election.

The outcome could also help answer a question nagging at Democrats nationally: Can they keep engaging those drawn to the polls by Mr. Obama’s charisma and historic campaign, or will last year prove a one-time surge for the party?

“If Corzine can activate the Obama surge vote in New Jersey, that would suggest that last year was more than just a flash, that it has staying power,” said Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University. “It will show that Obama’s support was about more than just one candidate’s charismatic personality, and give him a chance to transform American politics.”

The governor’s race in Virginia is also being closely watched for what it may say about Mr. Obama’s ability to excite his supporters to back Democratic candidates. In that race, the Democrat, Creigh Deeds, is trying to draw Mr. Obama’s backers with rallies and fliers showcasing him in photographs with the president.

Dimocrats, the Hopium addled, and writers (Frank Rich is particularly laughable in yesterday’s column on the 23rd district race in New York) and Obama advisers are lying either to themselves or their Hopium allies. The coalition of clowns will try to spin defeat as meaningless and victory as justification for policies which the American people continue to reject.

In 2010 the penultimate judgement on the inexperienced and unqualified Barack Obama and his sycophants in Big Media and the Obamination Party will be rendered by the electorate. Tomorrow we will begin to see whether we have been correct in our defense of the coalition which FDR created and Hillary reforged.

Tomorrow we will also see the first time that the Hopium addled will be rattled in their community of unreality and Obama worship. We will have to wait until 2010 and the November elections to witness the mass panic when Dimocrats realize they gifted the Democratic Party and the nomination to the wrong candidate – and the wrong coalition.

Part II tomorrow.


85 thoughts on “The World Series: The Hillary Clinton Coalition Versus The Barack Obama Coalition, Part I

  1. Before the elections Big Media is stating that Obama will be a significant factor. If the Republicans win, let’s see how quickly some in Big Media change their spin.

    Stumping for Mr. Corzine in a concert hall in Camden, N.J., a Democratic stronghold that is about 60 percent black, Mr. Obama turned on the charm to the delight of the boisterous crowd. He urged the roughly 5,500 supporters there to not only get out and vote, but also to prod their friends and relatives to the polls.

    “You’re going to need to get cousin Pookie off the couch, and say, ‘Pookie, it’s time to go vote,’ ” Mr. Obama told the supporters at the Susquehanna Bank Center. “You’ve all got a cousin Pookie; you know who I’m talking about.”

    It was Mr. Obama’s third Garden State visit for the Corzine campaign.

    A Corzine loss would send a frightening message to Capitol Hill Democrats in tough races next year that Mr. Obama’s personal popularity can’t be depended on to deliver votes in the midterm elections. That would make it harder for some Democrats — conservative Blue Dogs in the House and moderates in the Senate — to back the administration’s agenda, including a health care overhaul.

  2. While Barack Obama and his costumed, silly, wife partied for Halloween in a no longer white, but rather garish orange-lit house, Bill Clinton was receiving his earned peace prize. Bill Clinton was in Kosovo to unveil a statue.

    Capitalist vendors in Washington will soon be selling mock Nobel Peace Prize amulets with Obama’s face but they likely will not sell.


    Excellent article, Admin!

    obama and his sleeveless wife have made the White House into a tasteless emporium akin to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

    And his “pooky” racist comments as well as everything else that comes out of his mouth belong in Animal House.

  3. While Barack Obama and his costumed, silly, wife partied for Halloween in a no longer white, but rather garish orange-lit house, Bill Clinton was receiving his earned peace prize. Bill Clinton was in Kosovo to unveil a statue.

    Capitalist vendors in Washington will soon be selling mock Nobel Peace Prize amulets with Obama’s face but they likely will not sell.

    Excellent article, Admin!

    obama and his wife have made the White House into a tastless abode the likes of Rocky Horror Picture Show.

    His “pooky” comments as well as everything else that comes out of his racist mouth belong in Animal House.

  4. You know as well as I do, these guys aint gonna go out and vote, they have no incentive to and frankly most of them were bussed in from out of town or were fraudulent registrations.

    I’ll bet you the AA turnout is next to non existent.

  5. While I was driving to work this a.m., the satellite radio station that I listen to, played an excerpt of Bill’s speech. It was funny, when he said that his wife asked for a picture to prove that the statue was real. LOL!

  6. “While Barack Obama and his costumed, silly, wife partied for Halloween in a no longer white, but rather garish orange-lit house, Bill Clinton was receiving his earned peace prize. Bill Clinton was in Kosovo to unveil a statue.

    Capitalist vendors in Washington will soon be selling mock Nobel Peace Prize amulets with Obama’s face but they likely will not sell.”

    Excellent article, Admin!

    bambi and his wife have disgraced the White House with their disgusting and insensitive “Animal House” tactics. Now it is more like the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

    His pooky comments are getting old and more racist as time goes on.

  7. For any of you nurses out there I have a question. My daughter is worse today with pneumonia (bilateral). She has been treated with I.V. Rocephin and Zithromax and steroids. Its been 7 days and she is getting worse. Her legs are now cramping. I worried she has an embolism, do you get cramps in your legs with that?

  8. “While Barack Obama and his costumed, silly, wife partied for Halloween in a no longer white, but rather garish orange-lit house, Bill Clinton was receiving his earned peace prize. Bill Clinton was in Kosovo to unveil a statue.

    Capitalist vendors in Washington will soon be selling mock Nobel Peace Prize amulets with Obama’s face but they likely will not sell.”

    bambi and his cat wife have degraded the honor of the White House forever more. It is more like the Rocky Horror Picture Show now. His constant snide/juvenile references about “pooky” get more racist as time goes on. Definitely Animal House fodder.

  9. Admin,

    Great article!

    The White House has become the Rocky Picture Horror Show thanks to bambi and his tasteless wife. His continued references to “pooky” become more racist as time goes on. Fodder for Animal House.

  10. well looky here!! this will tell you all you need to know about Wright and Obama

    pay close attention at the 8 min mark:

    Rev Jeremiah Wright (introduced by Robert McChesney) speaking at the 60th anniversary celebration of the independent socialist magazine Monthly Review. The event was held on September 17th, 2009, at the New York Society for Ethical Culture in New York City.

  11. ADMIN…thank you for highlighting this honor for President Bill Clinton…his own country does not honor him for all the good and great things he has done and that he continues to do…but the world knows a real HERO…a remarkable and accomplished PRESIDENT when they see him…Bless Bill and Hill…their positive contributions to this world are countless…limitless…

  12. Confloyd,
    My best wishes to your daughter. I’m not a doctor, but I’ve heard that muscle cramps can be a result of an imbalance of Calcium, Potassium, and Zinc (&/or electrolites), and that blood clots can accompany muscle cramps. Have you had a chance to speak to her doctor(s) or to an RN? Are they changing regularly her position as she lies in bed for better circulation?

  13. ABC’s George Stephanopoulos Spins Hoffman Race as a GOP ‘Civil War’

    By Scott Whitlock
    November 2, 2009

    Former top Democratic aide turned journalist George Stephanopoulos on Monday spun the upcoming November 3 congressional election in New York as a Republican “civil war.” Recounting the battle between the Conservative Party nominee, a Democrat and a liberal Republican, he claimed, “But, what’s most interesting here is civil war inside the Republican Party.”

    Stephanopoulos added, “You saw this conservative candidate just come in and swamp the Republican who was pro-choice, pro-gay rights. And what the White House is trying to do even if they lose here is exploit- is fan the flames of this civil war.”

    Of course, Stephanopoulos, who served in the Clinton White House and worked for Michael Dukakis’ 1988 campaign, doesn’t often talk about Democrats engaging in a “civil war,” despite the unhappiness by liberals over issues such as the “public option” and President Obama’s inaction over gays in the military.

    Stephanopoulos also appeared on Sunday’s GMA and played prognosticator. Discussing the two gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey and the congressional election in New York, he predicted, “I think you’re likely to see a split here.” (The This Week host suggested a victory by Democrats in New Jersey.) Previewing White House spin, he added, “If there is a split, I think it’s a wash and we’ll move on.”

  14. trixta, thanks! I feel so inadequate to help her. SHe is at a very small hospital that she works at and I hope the Dr. knows what he is doing, you never know in these rural hospitals.

  15. Obama’s Whine House

    Dennis Byrne

    President Barack Obama’s threadbare attacks on anyone who has the audacity to disagree with him continue to the point of weariness. Here is a Politico story about how partisan Democrats took to the woodshed a fellow party member who dares work for FOX News:

    Bob Beckel: A Democratic apostate?

    Democratic pundit Bob Beckel has been under contract with Fox News for six years. And in the midst of the White House war against the cable network, some of his liberal friends think that’s six years too many.

    They invited him to lunch the other day for an intervention: Why is Beckel — a true-blue Democrat who worked for Robert F. Kennedy and ran Walter Mondale’s 1984 presidential campaign — giving comfort to the enemy?

    Beckel’s response: “I talk to more persuadable voters in a month than anybody on MSNBC and CNN talks to in a year.”

    Meanwhile, National Public Radio, the exemplar of all things liberal got its bullocks handed to it when it asked its listeners if they sided with the White House with its war on FOX News. Here are the results:

    Of 1.1 million votes cast, fully 81 percent, or 974,072 listeners said they sided with Fox News. Can you image how flummoxed NPR liberals were to find out that four out of five of their listeners took FOX News’ side against their favorite president?

    No doubt they now regret taking the poll in the first place. Serves them right. The poll itself is an insult to free speech, especially the highest form of constitutionally protected speech: the right to disagree with the government. Just taking seriously the thought that a presidential administration–any presidential administration–should crack down on a free press is not something that the tax-supported NPR should be entertaining.It just shows how far liberals like Obama and NPR have departed from truly liberal principles.

  16. I don’t know if this has been posted.

    US and Israel reiterate to Moscow: Military option is on the table
    DEBKAfile Special Report
    October 31, 2009, 8:20 PM (GMT+02:00)

    US Strategic Petroleum Reserve site in Texas
    DEBKAfile’s US intelligence sources report indications of impending war preparations against Iran after Tehran’s rejections of the UN-brokered proposal to ship its enriched uranium overseas for further enrichment. These sources reveal that the administration is seeking congressional authorization to open America’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). Furthermore, the US-Israeli joint US-Israel Juniper Cobra ballistic exercise is in full swing. Finally, US and Israel officials have been instructed to warn Moscow that the military option is still on the table if Iran’s nuclear program is not halted by diplomatic means.
    The US SPR which contains 727 million barrels of petroleum is only opened in time of war. Under an agreement signed with Israel in 1975, Washington undertakes to supply Israel with its fuel needs for five years in an emergency.
    Word of these apparent war preparations appeared Saturday Oct. 31, the day after Iran’s senior nuclear negotiator delivered a counter-proposal to the UN-brokered plan to the IAEA in Vienna which excised its main object, which was to reduce the enriched uranium stocks in hand for Iran to make a nuclear bomb.
    The joint US-Israeli military exercise which ends Tuesday, Nov. 3, moved to the Tel Aviv arena last Tuesday with US forces drilling defensive action against a prospective Iranian missile attack or a seaborne strike from the Mediterranean on Israel’s central conurbation.
    For the last three days, Moscow has had nothing to say about the Iranian rejection of a plan which would have sent Iranian uranium to Russia for reprocessing, although Tehran previously indicated to the Kremlin that the international plan would sail through. DEBKAfile’s Moscow sources regard the rebuff as Tehran’s response to the suspension of Russian S-300 missile defense batteries after they had already been packed for delivery to Iran

  17. oh yes…those street vendors and their Obama junk stuff!!!! Hope they all lose their money!
    — A starement on the article on obamaianiacs support cooling off!!!!

    Since mid-October, it has hovered just above 50 percent, a “significant drop” from his earlier numbers, according to Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup Poll.

    “In general, this puts Obama’s current ratings slightly below average for all US presidents since World War II,” Newport told AFP, noting that the ongoing economic problems are contributing to the curb in enthusiasm.

  18. confloyd
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I give it a day before bambi backtracks on this. I mean how dare the U.S. threaten bambi’s Russian buddies?

  19. According to FOx News Hillary is backing of backing Israel. She said that Israel needs to give in more to the Palestinian demands. OMG, I guess the fraud called her and told her to back off. WTF, I have never been more proud of her. Well maybe I am just a rethug and did not know it! lol!!!

  20. Confloyd: (((hugs))))

    pneumonia can be difficult to treat. Embolisms can be caused by prolonged bed rest. Is she getting up and walking around? If not, is she wearing elastic stockings (anti-clot)? Pulmonary embolisms are marked by chest pain and leg cramps can be from a variety of causes, including electrolyte imbalances. Talk to her physician about your concerns, if you haven’t already.

  21. November 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    Confloyd: (((hugs))))

    I agree. I have been gone for 3 days so i don’t know the jest of it all. Did she start with the flu? If she is getting worse, maybe moving her to a better hospital can be considered after you consult with the Dr.

  22. Too little too late dept…

    27% Say Hillary Would Be Better President Than Obama

    Just 14% of U.S. voters say Hillary Clinton would be doing a worse job as president than Barack Obama if she had won last year’s Democratic presidential nomination.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 27% of voters think Clinton would be doing a better job as president while 49% say she would be performing about the same.

    Democrats who think things would be different with Clinton are evenly divided between whether they’d be better or worse. Republicans and unaffiliated voters who think things would be different tend to believe Clinton would have done a better job as President.

    Perhaps one explanation for this is that voters see Obama as more politically liberal than Clinton. Forty-nine percent (49%) say Clinton is a liberal, but 38% see her as a moderate. By comparison, 74% say Obama is a liberal, while just 20% view him as a moderat

  23. Gonzotex&birdgal, She did not start out with the flu, they tested her and she was negative. She went to the er in acute respiratory distress from asthma which she has never had before. After about 3 days in the hospital with numberous IV antibiotics she developed bilateral pneumonia. They have re-xrayed her today and apparently one side is better and one side is worse. She is moving around and walking the halls with her oxygen several times a day. She is extremely overweight and I think that is complicating her progress. I thought they should be getting her one of those little things that measure your deep breathing. The respiratory tech should be working with her for deep breathing, but I don’t know. I don’t have clinical experience, only diagnostics. I am at my wits end to figure out why her 02 sats will not come up. THe oxygen is drying out her throat and making it real sore. SHe is pretty miserable.

  24. I just hope they are not missing an embolism, I made her ask her doctor today, he doesn’t thing it that. He said her potassium is off as well as her magnesium.

    They started her out with Rocephin/zithromax/steroids. They did a portable xray and it was undiagnosable, 3days later they did one in the dept and it was positive for bilateral pneumonia.

  25. Well, now it’s easier to understand why POTUS had to have that Nobel Peace Prize; had to stay a step ahead of Bill. However, Clintons have two things which he will never have and those two thing are scruples and class. I never tire of watching those two in action. I recall feeling confident that the world would be a better place after BC’s two terms because time after time, he used negotiation to mend fences. All that progress was cast aside, of course, by Bush The Lesser, who needed his own war. Next up was Obama, whose idea of negotiation is giving speeches and hosting social events. And whose idea of governance is down and dirty dealing:

    …Plenty of reasons exist for suspecting absentee fraud may play a significant role in tomorrow’s Garden State [NJ] contests. Groups associated with Acorn in neighboring Pennsylvania and New York appear to have moved into the state. An independent candidate for mayor in Camden has already leveled charges that voter fraud is occurring in his city. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party in New Jersey is taking advantage of a new loosely written vote-by-mail law to pressure county clerks not to vigorously use signature checks to evaluate the authenticity of absentee ballots, the only verification procedure allowed….

    online dot

  26. From admin’s link at the top, the DC street vendors stuck with “Obama-gear”, more quotes:

    And as a consequence, the popularity of Obama gear at the souvenir shops that abound in Washington appears to be taking a hit.

    “Sellings have really slowed down since Obama took office,” said vendor Vin Ngo.

    This is not for want of supply: from a lifesize cardboard cutout to gold jewelry to a bottle of special vintage champagne bearing the president’s name, the list of Obama tchotchkes and high-end souvenirs is long.

    As such, the conditions remain ripe for more sales, according to Lian Nelson, another street vendor in Washington, who hangs Obama T-shirts alongside those featuring another prominent African-American hero: Michael Jackson.

    Who is outselling whom? According to Nelson, the “King of Pop” is well ahead.

    We knew Obama got into the Senate on a whim, continued to coast as he was protected from anything that would expose him, played the novelty / celebrity angle for all it was worth to beat Hillary and then McCain. But we here knew the novelty would not last, shiny baubles turn to be fake, and the emperor’s clothes would turn out to be …not there.

  27. confloyd
    November 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
    I just hope they are not missing an embolism, I made her ask her doctor today, he doesn’t thing it that. He said her potassium is off as well as her magnesium.


    The electrolyte imbalance can cause muscle cramps, as well as cardiac arrthymias. The steroids may be slowing her recovery, since they can inhibit the immune response. Steroids decrease the inflammatory response, but they also suppress the immune response. A catch-22. Granted, I am a psych nurse, but wouldn’t a respiratory therapist be doing breathing treatments with her?

    Her O2 sats will not come up, until her lungs clear up. Walking is good for her, helps to expand her lungs and decreases the chances for an embolism.

  28. Clinton to fly to Egypt for Mubarak meeting

    Mon Nov 2, 2009

    MARRAKESH, Morocco, Nov 2 (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will travel to Egypt for a meeting on Wednesday with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a U.S. official said on Wednesday.

    State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Clinton would leave Morocco, where she is attending a development conference, on Tuesday to meet Mubarak in Cairo on Wednesday.

    Clinton is on a whirlwind trip through the Middle East seeking to garner Arab support for the resumption of stalled peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.

  29. Clinton relished best job in the world

    November 02 2009

    Istanbul – Former United States president Bill Clinton said on Monday that he would have preferred to leave the White House in a coffin because he loved being commander in chief, but signalled his political life is over.

    “It’s good that we have a (term) limit. Otherwise I would have stayed until I was carried away in a coffin. Or defeated in an election,” Clinton said at a conference in Istanbul. “I loved doing the job.”

    Clinton won two terms in office, the maximum under the constitution, and served from 1992 to 2000. His wife Hillary Clinton is now US Secretary of State under President Barack Obama after losing the Democratic primary to him in 2008.

    Clinton said he enjoyed his current position as chairperson of the Clinton Global Initiative, which raises funds to address issues ranging from healthcare to poverty to climate change.

    But the former president’s surprise visit to North Korea in August to secure the release of two jailed American journalists showed he still wields considerable diplomatic clout – and stole some of the spotlight from his wife.

    “I loved being president, but I like my current life too … I will leave the politics to my wife and to President Obama,” he said. –

  30. confloyd
    November 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Portable xrays are notorious for missing things. We use them for last resort.

    She can do deep breathing exercises herself to help her cough up the junk and expand her lungs. You can do percussion tapping on her back to loosen things up.

  31. Obama: More job losses to come
    Despite signs of economic uptick, president warns labor market will remain weak in the coming months.

    November 2, 2009

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Barack Obama warned Monday that more job losses should be expected in the months ahead despite recent signs of economic recovery. He also called for “new models” of economic growth to help avoid a repeat of what he said was the debt-driven expansion of the past.

    “We anticipate that we’re going to continue to see some job losses in the weeks and months to come,” the president said during a meeting with several of his top economic advisers.
    There is “always a lag of several months between businesses starting to make profits again and investing again and them actually rehiring again.”

    Obama also said, however, he’s confident “that having moved the economy on the right track … there’s no reason why we’re not going to be able to not only create jobs, but the kind of sustainable economic growth that everybody’s looking for.”

    The White House has highlighted several indicators of economic stabilization over the past week. Among other things, administration officials have argued that the Democrats’ controversial $787 billion economic stimulus program helped stave off a depression and spark 3.5% growth in the third quarter.

    On Friday, the administration released a report claiming the program helped create or saved over 640,000 jobs.

    Republicans questioned the validity of the White House report, saying it exaggerated the program’s effectiveness. Each new job, critics charged, cost $248,000 to create.

    The Commerce Department said construction spending rose unexpectedly in October by almost 1%. Economists surveyed by were anticipating a 0.5% decline.

    Meanwhile, the National Association of Realtors reported pending home sales rose much more than expected, by 6.1%, in September. Analysts were looking for a 1.2% increase.

    Unemployment, however, is currently close to 10%, and has continued to rise in recent months.

  32. Hey confloyd, Nurse here, if you are concerned about a DVT in her legs ask that they do a doppler study. This would show up a clott. If the doppler study is negative ask that she gets SCD boots. These squeeze and release the legs forcing the blood to circulate in the legs. She should be receiving nebulizer treatments to help break up the congestion, I would also ask for an incentive spirometer and the resp therapist and nurse should be able to show her how to do this. It’s just a canister that she breathes into but it is great at getting the pt to breathe deeply. She should be doing it at least 10 x an hour while awake. She’s also got to get up and ambulate in hall ways and when she is in bed make sure she is sitting upright and not lying down, it doesn’t help the lungs expand. I’m sure that she will be having more xrays and hopefully you will see and improvement. Steroids can slow the process down but they are needed for the inflammation. Is she diabetic… steriods can increase a pt’s blood sugar, make sure they are monitoring her blood sugar every 6 hours. As for the O2 making her throat dry have the nurse attach some humidifaction to the nasal cannula. WHen her O2 stats are dropping are they giving her oxygen through a venti mask or 100% non rebreather mask, or are they still using the nasal cannula. venti mask would be better when she drops her O2 stat. it should help. Take her some throat lozenges as well. Hang in there hopefully everything will improve soon.

  33. from BP

    GOP nominee endorses Democrat
    Posted: November 1st, 2009 04:51 PM ET

    From CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart

    Instead of endorsing Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman, pictured, Republican Dede Scozzafava chose to endorse a Democrat, according to a statement published online Sunday.
    (CNN) – The Republican Party nominee in this week’s special congressional election in New York endorsed her Democratic opponent Sunday, one day after releasing supporters from their commitment to support her, the Watertown Daily Times reported on its Web site.

    New York Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava said she was backing Democrat Bill Owens over Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman in the special election for ex-GOP Rep. John McHugh’s seat in this northern New York congressional district. McHugh resigned to become Secretary of the Army.

    “Since announcing the suspension of my campaign, I have thought long and hard about what is best for the people of this District, and how to answer your questions,” she said in the statement posted on the Web site. “This is not a decision that I have made lightly.”

    “In Bill Owens, I see a sense of duty and integrity that will guide him beyond political partisanship. He will be an independent voice devoted to doing what is right for New York. Bill understands this district and its people, and when he represents us in Congress he will put our interests first.”

    “I am supporting Bill Owens for Congress and urge you to do the same.”

    CNN has contacted Scozzafava, but has not yet heard back.

    Scozzafava was chosen to be the Republican Party nominee by state party officials for the special election scheduled for Tuesday, but her centrist views on a number of issues caused an immediate backlash from conservative activists and national organizations which rallied behind Hoffman’s candidacy.

    Owens embraced the endorsement of one time rival.

    “I am honored to have Assemblywoman Scozzafava’s endorsement,” Owens said in his statement. “Over the course of her career, Dede has always committed to serving the people of Upstate New York before serving a partisan agenda.”

    Scozzafava’s decision to back Owens over Hoffman quickly drew criticism from a former campaign aide.

    “At the end of the day I believe in the Republican Party and the responsibility of the party to take back the House of Representatives,” former Scozzafava campaign spokesman Matt Burns told CNN. “I respect her but we disagree.”

    In a separate statement to CNN, Burns said that he was “supporting Doug Hoffman, because denying Nancy Pelosi another foot soldier is vital to restoring fiscal responsibility and common sense in Washington.”

    A Siena College poll released Saturday, just hours before Scozzafava announced she was dropping her bid, showed Owens and Hoffman in a virtual tie while she trailed her two rivals by 15 points.

    Update, 11:03 p.m.: The statement published in the Watertown Daily Times Sunday was sent via e-mail by Dede Scozzafava to several of her supporters and friends, the New York State Democratic Party tells CNN.

  34. …there are some great photos of Bill Clinton at the address below…×8726985

  35. jtjames/gonzotex, thanks for the infor, I couldn’t remember the name of that little device, but I thought she should have one. THe respiratory tech is not doing their job, she should have already done this, I wonder if it takes a dr. order to get one and to do chest repercussions??

    Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it, as an xray tech you just don’t find out much about clinical information.

  36. One good thing is the hospital was able to get the insurance company to start covering her on the 1st, so that really makes her feel better.

  37. confloyd
    November 2nd, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Usually, incentive inspirometers are given to patient’s upon admission, but every hospital is different. Ask one of the nurses for one. It may or may not need an order. Respiratory does need an order to do percussion and nebulizer treatments. Ask her nurse.

  38. Birdgal, thanks she is getting nebulizer treatments, so the respiratory therapist should of already gotten her one.

    She had bronchitis the week before and they test her for the flu then and it was negative, but I am beginning to think she might have been exposed on the last two days she worked.

    We just had a kid die of H1N1, with the exact same symptoms she has, I am just scared to death. She is not improving and thats also what the doctor says.

  39. confloyd –

    So sorry your daughter having such a rough time. Does she have a history of cardiomegaly or CHF? Very possible that potassium and magnesium deficiency could be contributing to leg pain/cramps. If receiving IV Lasix for fluid, this will certainly affect electrolytes. Probably getting K+ through po meds, but if too low, give IV (very painful and caustic to veins). Although extremely taxing effort for severely obese individuals, essential that she have a certain amount of activity. Physical therapy may need to help her with ambulation. Movement is key. Bedside commode. Also, as others mentioned earlier, she most definitely needs the chest percussions to loosen the phlegm, the incentive spirometer exercises, and low sodium diet. And yes the steroids will wreak havoc with blood glucose levels. If she is diabetic, harder to manage of course. Concerned with her IV antibiotics. Seems she may need other broad-spectrum ABO’s. Hopefully they cultured her sputum before any regime began. I know all about ineptness in hospitals. Takes a caring team EACH shift for successful outcomes. Nurses, respiratory therapists have to really be proactive and give good reports to next shift to stay on top of serious infections, so you’re not taking one step forward and two steps backward. Infuriating when caregivers ho-hum on timely meds, etc. Laissez-faire attitudes prevalent on nursing units in many hospitals, party atmosphere. Drives you crazy. Can’t stand incompetence. Will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

  40. from Rasmussen above:
    Forty-nine percent (49%) say Clinton is a liberal, but 38% see her as a moderate. By comparison, 74% say Obama is a liberal, while just 20% view him as a moderate


    Now that is wierd. On health care issues Hillary is to the left of Obama. Also on foreclosures. She voted against FISA when Obama switched and voted for it. She has said ‘get to the bottom of’ a torture issue.

    On what other issues is Hillary on record left of Obama? Is this something we should work up for a later article?

    And remember exit polls show she would have defeated McCain by a better margin than Obama got: his 7% vs a 12% for her (plus those PUMAs who stayed home). I have the cite on this if wanted, have posted it several times.

  41. Infuriating when caregivers ho-hum on timely meds, etc. Laissez-faire attitudes prevalent on nursing units in many hospitals, party atmosphere. Drives you crazy. Can’t stand incompetence. Will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

    Really? As a nurse, I have never worked in a party atmosphere! Laissez…hmmm… All I know is I have worked my ass off for 33 years and quite frankly am tired of these ridicous comments.

  42. gonzo,
    My experience in a county hospital and nursing home is very limited thank God, but the nurses in both were GREAT. Very concerned, very communicative. (All paid for by Medicare and Medicaid.)

    The atmosphere was cheerful — cheering up the patients.

  43. gonzotx, no the nurse are taking care of her in the realm of their experience. They are really nice, but not used to this king of care.

    Curiosity, No sputum before antibiotics. I know they are really trying, but are just not equipped. The night nurse when she was admitted asked her how she got admitted with bronchitis, well as it turned out she had bilateral pneumonia, but because of the size and the portable xray they missed the diagnosis, but the nurse thought I guess she was being a baby. She has a big pneumonia from what I see on the xray, but she still gets up 3 4 times a day and walks the complete circle of the hospital, so she is walking.

  44. It makes no sense to me that obama would congratulate Karzai on his re-election. What re-election?

    The whole point of having one was to weed out the massive corruption from the first one. Now he is back by default and all is well?

    I guess obama’s personal corruptness spoke to Karzai’s.

  45. JanH
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Why not, it worked for him!

    Hey, I know ihave asked this, some of you have Wobbeoi’s email, where is he

  46. Skullduggery: Democrat Admits to Placing Robocall That Slammed Republican Christie, Promoted Independent Spoiler Dagget
    But we’ll still be hearing about those calls from nobody of any importance spreading rumors about John McCain’s black baby, even though that is now ten years in the past and there are plenty of fresher, more Democratic examples of dirty-pool robocalling.

    The Democratic State Committee now admits paying for a robocall to Somerset County voters that slams Republican Chris Christie and promotes independent gubernatorial candidate Christopher Daggett.
    A Democratic spokeswoman says the party’s chairman, Joe Cryan, was not aware of the robocalls when he denied that the state committee had anything to do with them yesterday afternoon.

    Cryan, who told yesterday afternoon that the Democratic State Committee had “absolutely” nothing to do with the call, could not immediately be reached for comment.

    The call angered Republicans and further fueled conspiracy theories that Daggett is in cahoots with the Corzine camp. A disclaimer at the end says it was paid for by Victory ’09, “a project of the NJDSC” (Democratic State Committee), and gave the committee’s Trenton address.

    Daggett, for his part, disavowed the call.

    “Voters hate robocalls. This is just another instance of the dishonest ways Democrats and Republicans use to win campaigns and to fool voters,” he said in a statement this afternoon. “It is little wonder more and more voters are rejecting these kind of desperate dirty tricks and turning to my campaign for a positive message about how to make New Jersey more affordable and competitive.’’

    Before the Democrats owned up to it, Daggett media advisor Bill Hillsman said the call might be Republican trick to generate a sympathetic newspaper story.

    Daggett is pretty much a Democratic operative. He’s running because Corzine is too weak to win a majority, and his presence in the race is only to help Corzine eke out a slim plurality.

  47. gonzotx:

    Excuse me, but I am also an RN in TX and have too worked my ass off for years. My comments were from my own cumulative observations in hospital settings. Unfortunately, so many nurses are so busy sprouting wings and halos, being legends in their own minds, being on the defensive, and quick to attack anyone who dares to point out the “other” ugly side of the healthcare profession, they don’t have a clue about the deadbeats around them. Scary as hell. So nice that your working career has been so perfect. But just because you haven’t “experienced” this, as many if not most healthcare workers have, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

    Incidentally, I was communicating with confloyd out of concern for her and her daughter and have never ONCE been jumped on by some know-it-all on this site. Not only were your comments unwarranted, but what I blogged to her was really none of your damn business. So save your sanctimonious comments for some other blogger. You know me well. I’m the nurse who never stops – NEVER – and is to busy saving lives – rather than the nurse trying to convince the nurse managers how wonderful he/she is. I walk the walk, not talk the talk.

  48. well the thing is, even with nurses, they are just people, you get good ones, you get bad ones, you get lazy ones and you get energetic ones.

    They are only people after all. They cant all be good and they cant all be bad.

  49. moononpluto:

    Exactly… open-minded of you:)

    I’ve worked with some absolute saints:)

    And the other extreme:(

    Also, believe teaching in public schools for years was extremely beneficial for so many reasons. Many (in both professions) so often wander beyond mere pride in their “trade” and tend to get caught up in what makes a “real” nurse or a “real” teacher”. Horse$#!+. These types tend to lose their own identities in “titles” and have such an inflated opinions of themselves. You’ve seen this perhaps in your own friends, aquaintances (and families). Nurses and teachers who think they are “all that” – just ask them. They need to get over themselves and remember why they chose those professions in the first place. All that matters in the end, are patients with restored health and children who have mastered the subject, have critical-thinking skills necessary to be productive citizens, and greater capacity for understanding.

    Again, thanks moononpluto for “getting it”.

  50. confloyd,

    I just hope that your daughter comes through this okay. I know how worried and stressed out you and your family must be.

  51. curiosityhasme
    November 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Well, I must say you come off as an angry person. I don’t need to justify my work to you or anyone, I know what I do. Apparently you have been unsatisfied with your work environment for sometime. Again, I will say the nurses I have worked with are overwhelmingly professional, and caring. Not to say there aren’t some I would rather not work with or have take care of me or mine, but that is in anything. I have nothing to apologize for, sorry your career has not been surrounded by the same, may be time for a change.

  52. November 02, 2009
    Election 2009 Forecasts
    By Richard Baehr
    On Tuesday, there will be elections in four states: two governorships and two U.S. special elections for U.S. House seats, all of whose constituencies were won by Barack Obama in 2008. Republicans or Conservative Party candidates are poised to win two or three of the four races, but in each of them, the Democrats will significantly underperform the results from the 2008 elections. While the White House may argue on Wednesday that there is no national meaning to such a result, the extent of the Democrats’ drop-off from 2008 — roughly 15% or more in each race — may be a warning sign for moderate Democrats in the House and Senate wavering in their support of the health care reform bill or the cap and trade bill, both of which were drafted by the more left-wing elements of their caucus.

    Virginia governor’s race

    Virginia’s governor can serve only one term, so every race is an open-seat race. Democrats Mark Warner and Tim Kaine won the last two gubernatorial races by 5% and 6%, respectively. Democrats also won the last two Old Dominion Senate races with Jim Webb besting incumbent George Allen in 2006 by less than 1% and Mark Warner winning an open seat race by 31% in 2008. Barack Obama won Virginia in 2008 by 7%, the first victory there for a Democrat in the Presidential race since 1964. Democrats also picked up three Virginia Congressional seats in 2008.

    It would have been fair to say based on these results that once-red Virginia had become purple, leaning more toward blue than red. But now Republicans are on the eve of a sweeping statewide victory in Virginia. Their candidate for Governor, Robert McDonnell, has opened up a huge lead over Democrat Creigh Deeds of about 14% according to the RCP average of the latest poll results.

    Republicans are also leading in other statewide races and are poised to pick up seats in the state legislature. The shift from Democrats to Republicans from 2008 to 2009 in Virginia appears to be over 20% (a 7% Obama win, a 14% McDonnell win). Virginia has been more Republican in presidential election years than in off-year elections prior to 2008. The White House has been of late trying to distance Obama from the race, telling reporters that Deeds ran a poor campaign. But a blowout loss in Virginia is an embarrassment for the White House after their intense and successful organizing effort there in 2008.

    New York’s 23rd Congressional District race

    In the special election to fill the seat of Republican John McHugh, appointed Secretary of the Army, the state Republican Party picked moderate Dede Scozzafava. Doug Hoffman, who had competed for the nomination, then decided to run on the Conservative Party ticket. The Democrats picked Bill Owens. New York 23 has elected a string of Republicans to Congress for over a century, with McHugh winning by huge margins in his last few races, regularly securing 60% or more of the vote. It is likely that McHugh was offered his new job in part to create the open seat and give Democrats the shot at a pickup.

    Obama won the district by 5% in 2008, suggesting that in an open seat race, Democrats would have a chance. With McHugh’s appointment, the GOP was down to two Congressmen from the 29 House seats in the state, from 10 prior to the 2006 midterms. Scozzafava held an early lead in the race until Hoffman gained strength and became competitive with the support of movement conservatives in the district and national conservative figures. But the split in the GOP vote between Hoffman and Scozzafava gave Owens the lead. The tide turned in the last week as Hoffman pulled even with Owens and Scozzafava’s support dropped. On Saturday, Scozzafava suspended her campaign, and on Sunday, she stunningly endorsed Owens, throwing the race into turmoil.

    No one can be sure where Scozzafava’s remaining supporters will go. Many had already switched to Hoffman, but those that stuck with her were not by and large a conservative-leaning group. The last independent poll from Siena gave Owens a 1-point lead over Hoffman (36-35) with Scozzafava at 20%. My best guess is that Hoffman is now a slight favorite to win, but this race will be close, and it could go either way (5% margin of victory or less). The combined vote for Hoffman and Scozzafava (whose name will remain on the ballot) will likely reach 55%, at least 10% more than the Democrat receives. In other words, from a 5% Obama district in 2008, the shift to the Republicans and Conservatives in this open-seat race may be as much as 15% in one year. Still, if Owens wins, this will be a disaster for the GOP, another in a string of open-seat losses in former GOP districts.

    New Jersey governor’s race

    This is by far the hardest race to forecast. The RCP poll average shows a very tight race between Democratic Governor John Corzine and Republican Chris Christie, with independent Chris Daggett trailing far behind. Corzine has outspent Christie by well over two-to-one, and the Democrats have a better ground game in the state. Obama won New Jersey by 15% in 2008 (Republicans last won the Presidential election in 1988), and Democrats have won all major statewide races (governor or senator) for many years. Republicans are often close in final polls and then underperform on Election Day. Daggett is a wild card. His support has been eroding, and more of his supporters pick Christie as a second choice than Corzine. Third-party candidates often fare poorly on Election Day (much worse than their final poll numbers) when supporters of these candidates realize they cannot win. This could help Christie.

    When an incumbent runs for governor, statewide issues matter, and Corzine is unpopular. New Jersey has a big deficit, high unemployment, rising taxes, and abundant corruption. Unlike Virginia, the Obama team has devoted many campaign days to backing Corzine, and other powerful national Democrats have also trooped into the state to help him. If Corzine loses, his defeat will be more closely tied to Obama than the impending loss for the Democrats in Virginia.

    While the RCP average poll result shows a 1% Christie lead, the individual polls are all over the place, with solid leads for Corzine in two polls, and smaller leads for Christie in many others. Picking a winner here is a total crapshoot. Many analysts believe Corzine will eke out a narrow victory (1-2%). I thought this was likely earlier in the week, but Christie seems to have a bit of momentum heading home. Based on the current poll averages, the Democrats have again dropped 15% or more from the Obama margin in New Jersey in 2008.

    California 10th Congressional District race

    Congresswoman Ellen Tauscher has been appointed Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. Tauscher won her last race in this east Bay district by a 34% margin and received 65% or more of the vote in each of her races. Obama won the district by 32% in 2008. The Democratic nominee, Lieutenant Governor John Garamendi, is leading in late polls by 10% over his GOP opponent, David Harmer. This race has been off the radar, with political attention focused on the other three. It would be an enormous upset if Harmer won, but if Garamendi wins by only 10% in the 10th, that too will represent a significant drop-off from Obama’s margin in 2008 of over 20% in one year.

    If Republicans can win in New York 23 and New Jersey, it will be a very big night. In Virginia, the Deeds is done, so to speak. But in each of the four races, the Democrats appear to be headed for a collapse from Barack Obama’s margins in 2008.

    Richard Baehr is chief political correspondent of American Thinker.

  53. gonzo,

    I heard that the dims have been playing some very dirty tricks on the repubs for these elections.

    How surprising…NOT.

  54. From No Quarter

    A “Real World” referendum on high tax vs low tax states? CA and TX

    By Author: Lisa B Close Name: Lisa B

    on November 2, 2009 at 4:00 PM in Current Affairs

    The LATimes has a fascinating article comparing California to Texas. William Voegeli basically argues that the Texas model of low taxes / low-benefit works better than California’s high-benefit / high-tax model.

    In America’s federal system, some states, such as California, offer residents a “package deal” that bundles numerous and ambitious public benefits with the high taxes needed to pay for them. Other states, such as Texas, offer packages combining modest benefits and low taxes. These alternatives, of course, define the basic argument between liberals and conservatives over what it means to get the size and scope of government right.

    It’s not surprising, then, that there’s an intense debate over which model is more admirable and sustainable. What is surprising is the growing evidence that the low-benefit/low-tax package not only succeeds on its own terms but also according to the criteria used to defend its opposite. In other words, the superior public goods that supposedly justify the high taxes just aren’t being delivered.


    One way to assess how Americans feel about the different tax and benefit packages the states offer is by examining internal U.S. migration patterns. Between April 1, 2000, and June 30, 2007, an average of 3,247 more people moved out of California than into it every week, according to the Census Bureau. Over the same period, Texas had a net weekly population increase of 1,544 as a result of people moving in from other states. During these years, more generally, 16 of the 17 states with the lowest tax levels had positive “net internal migration,” in the Census Bureau’s language, while 14 of the 17 states with the highest taxes had negative net internal migration.

    These folks pulling up stakes and driving U-Haul trucks across state lines understand a reality the defenders of the high-benefit/high-tax model must confront: All things being equal, everyone would rather pay low taxes than high ones. The high-benefit/high-tax model can work only if things are demonstrably not equal — if the public goods purchased by the high taxes far surpass the quality, quantity and impact of those available to people who live in states with low taxes.

    Today’s public benefits fail that test, as urban scholar Joel Kotkin of and Chapman University told the Los Angeles Times in March: “Twenty years ago, you could go to Texas, where they had very low taxes, and you would see the difference between there and California. Today, you go to Texas, the roads are no worse, the public schools are not great but are better than or equal to ours, and their universities are good. The bargain between California’s government and the middle class is constantly being renegotiated to the disadvantage of the middle class.”

    These judgments are not based on drive-by sociology. According to a report issued earlier this year by the consulting firm McKinsey & Co., Texas students “are, on average, one to two years of learning ahead of California students of the same age,” even though per-pupil expenditures on public school students are 12% higher in California. The details of the Census Bureau data show that Texas not only spends its citizens’ dollars more effectively than California but emphasizes priorities that are more broadly beneficial. Per capita spending on transportation was 5.9% lower in California, and highway expenditures in particular were 9.5% lower, a discovery both plausible and infuriating to any Los Angeles commuter losing the will to live while sitting in yet another freeway traffic jam.

    If this is correct, if we can see that many people actually prefer “a la cart” services rather than “all-in-one” from government, I’d think this has implications for Obamacare, Obamacorps, and anything else the federal government is thinking of nationalizing.

    But that’s just a few people moving from CA to TX and doesn’t mean anything right? I’m not so sure. Tea partiers seem to me to make the same argument and those people can be found in all states.

    Personally, I live in one of the highest taxed communities in my state. By all accounts, this is a great place to live, but many are fed up with zooming property taxes that saw property re-valuations go up 40% AFTER the economic plunge last year. Local incumbents are suffering during this election season. The general consensus among the dissatisfied is that local government spends too much and is unaccountable. Is this a nice place BECAUSE of local government or despite it? That’s a good question.

    I think the LATimes makes an important point. And I think one paragraph, in particular, hits the anxiety of Americans concerned about what the Obama administration is moving toward.

    . . . California’s interlocking directorate of government employee unions, issue activists, careerists and campaign contributors has become increasingly aggressive and adept at using rhetoric extolling public benefits for all to deliver targeted advantages to itself. As a result, the political reality of the high-benefit/high-tax model is that its public goods are, increasingly, neither public nor good. Instead, the beneficiaries are the providers of the public services, and certain favored or connected constituencies, rather than the general population.

    This sounds a lot like Chicago as well. Did the poor in Chicago ever get the renovations they needed from those who got money to fix up the dilapidated apartment buildings? No. Given the many financial scandals of Wall Street, K Street, Obama administration officials and Congress, it would be madness to think higher taxes would ever get past the all the “bites” and actually reach its intended purpose.

    And I think many people see Obamacare as trickle-down health care. Send all your money to the top and hope the care actually trickles down to you how, when and where you need it.

    New programs and bureaus set up under this insane spending plan.

    1. Retiree Reserve Trust Fund (Section 111(d), p. 61)
    2. Grant program for wellness programs to small employers (Section 112, p. 62)
    3. Grant program for State health access programs (Section 114, p. 72)
    4. Program of administrative simplification (Section 115, p. 76)
    5. Health Benefits Advisory Committee (Section 223, p. 111)
    6. Health Choices Administration (Section 241, p. 131)
    7. Qualified Health Benefits Plan Ombudsman (Section 244, p. 138)
    8. Health Insurance Exchange (Section 201, p. 155)
    9. Program for technical assistance to employees of small businesses buying Exchange coverage (Section 305(h), p. 191)
    10. Mechanism for insurance risk pooling to be established by Health Choices Commissioner (Section 306(b), p. 194)
    11. Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund (Section 307, p. 195)
    12. State-based Health Insurance Exchanges (Section 308, p. 197)
    13. Grant program for health insurance cooperatives (Section 310, p. 206)
    14. “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 321, p. 211)
    15. Ombudsman for “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 321(d), p. 213)
    16. Account for receipts and disbursements for “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 322(b), p. 215)
    17. Telehealth Advisory Committee (Section 1191 (b), p. 589)
    18. Demonstration program providing reimbursement for “culturally and linguistically appropriate services” (Section 1222, p. 617)
    19. Demonstration program for shared decision making using patient decision aids (Section 1236, p. 648)
    20. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicare (Section 1301, p. 653)
    21. Independent patient-centered medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302, p. 672)
    22. Community-based medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302(d), p. 681)
    23. Independence at home demonstration program (Section 1312, p. 718)
    24. Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (Section 1401(a), p. 734)
    25. Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission (Section 1401(a), p. 738)
    26. Patient ombudsman for comparative effectiveness research (Section 1401(a), p. 753)
    27. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1412(b)(1), p. 784)
    28. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for nursing facilities (Section 1412 (b)(2), p. 786)
    29. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1413(a)(3), p. 796)
    30. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 1413(b)(3), p. 804)
    31. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities (Section 1422, p. 859)
    32. Demonstration program for approved teaching health centers with respect to Medicare GME (Section 1502(d), p. 933)
    33. Pilot program to develop anti-fraud compliance systems for Medicare providers (Section 1635, p. 978)
    34. Special Inspector General for the Health Insurance Exchange (Section 1647, p. 1000)
    35. Medical home pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1722, p. 1058)
    36. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1730A, p. 1073)
    37. Nursing facility supplemental payment program (Section 1745, p. 1106)
    38. Demonstration program for Medicaid coverage to stabilize emergency medical conditions in institutions for mental diseases (Section 1787, p. 1149)
    39. Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund (Section 1802, p. 1162)
    40. “Identifiable office or program” within CMS to “provide for improved coordination between Medicare and Medicaid in the case of dual eligibles” (Section 1905, p. 1191)
    41. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 1907, p. 1198)
    42. Public Health Investment Fund (Section 2002, p. 1214)
    43. Scholarships for service in health professional needs areas (Section 2211, p. 1224)
    44. Program for training medical residents in community-based settings (Section 2214, p. 1236)
    45. Grant program for training in dentistry programs (Section 2215, p. 1240)
    46. Public Health Workforce Corps (Section 2231, p. 1253)
    47. Public health workforce scholarship program (Section 2231, p. 1254)
    48. Public health workforce loan forgiveness program (Section 2231, p. 1258)
    49. Grant program for innovations in interdisciplinary care (Section 2252, p. 1272)
    50. Advisory Committee on Health Workforce Evaluation and Assessment (Section 2261, p. 1275)
    51. Prevention and Wellness Trust (Section 2301, p. 1286)
    52. Clinical Prevention Stakeholders Board (Section 2301, p. 1295)
    53. Community Prevention Stakeholders Board (Section 2301, p. 1301)
    54. Grant program for community prevention and wellness research (Section 2301, p. 1305)
    55. Grant program for research and demonstration projects related to wellness incentives (Section 2301, p. 1305)
    56. Grant program for community prevention and wellness services (Section 2301, p. 1308)
    57. Grant program for public health infrastructure (Section 2301, p. 1313)
    58. Center for Quality Improvement (Section 2401, p. 1322)
    59. Assistant Secretary for Health Information (Section 2402, p. 1330)
    60. Grant program to support the operation of school-based health clinics (Section 2511, p. 1352)
    61. Grant program for nurse-managed health centers (Section 2512, p. 1361)
    62. Grants for labor-management programs for nursing training (Section 2521, p. 1372)
    63. Grant program for interdisciplinary mental and behavioral health training (Section 2522, p. 1382)
    64. “No Child Left Unimmunized Against Influenza” demonstration grant program (Section 2524, p. 1391)
    65. Healthy Teen Initiative grant program regarding teen pregnancy (Section 2526, p. 1398)
    66. Grant program for interdisciplinary training, education, and services for individuals with autism (Section 2527(a), p. 1402)
    67. University centers for excellence in developmental disabilities education (Section 2527(b), p. 1410)
    68. Grant program to implement medication therapy management services (Section 2528, p. 1412)
    69. Grant program to promote positive health behaviors in underserved communities (Section 2530, p. 1422)
    70. Grant program for State alternative medical liability laws (Section 2531, p. 1431)
    71. Grant program to develop infant mortality programs (Section 2532, p. 1433)
    72. Grant program to prepare secondary school students for careers in health professions (Section 2533, p. 1437)
    73. Grant program for community-based collaborative care (Section 2534, p. 1440)
    74. Grant program for community-based overweight and obesity prevention (Section 2535, p. 1457)
    75. Grant program for reducing the student-to-school nurse ratio in primary and secondary schools (Section 2536, p. 1462)
    76. Demonstration project of grants to medical-legal partnerships (Section 2537, p. 1464)
    77. Center for Emergency Care under the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (Section 2552, p. 1478)
    78. Council for Emergency Care (Section 2552, p 1479)
    79. Grant program to support demonstration programs that design and implement regionalized emergency care systems (Section 2553, p. 1480)
    80. Grant program to assist veterans who wish to become emergency medical technicians upon discharge (Section 2554, p. 1487)
    81. Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee (Section 2562, p. 1494)
    82. National Medical Device Registry (Section 2571, p. 1501)
    83. CLASS Independence Fund (Section 2581, p. 1597)
    84. CLASS Independence Fund Board of Trustees (Section 2581, p. 1598)
    85. CLASS Independence Advisory Council (Section 2581, p. 1602)
    86. Health and Human Services Coordinating Committee on Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1610)
    87. National Women’s Health Information Center (Section 2588, p. 1611)
    88. Centers for Disease Control Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1614)
    89. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Women’s Health and Gender-Based Research (Section 2588, p. 1617)
    90. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1618)
    91. Food and Drug Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1621)
    92. Personal Care Attendant Workforce Advisory Panel (Section 2589(a)(2), p. 1624)
    93. Grant program for national health workforce online training (Section 2591, p. 1629)
    94. Grant program to disseminate best practices on implementing health workforce investment programs (Section 2591, p. 1632)
    95. Demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals (Section 3101, p. 1717)
    96. Demonstration program for substance abuse counselor educational curricula (Section 3101, p. 1719)49. Grant program for innovations in interdisciplinary care (Section 2252, p. 1272)
    97. Program of Indian community education on mental illness (Section 3101, p. 1722)
    98. Intergovernmental Task Force on Indian environmental and nuclear hazards (Section 3101, p. 1754)
    99. Office of Indian Men’s Health (Section 3101, p. 1765)
    100. Indian Health facilities appropriation advisory board (Section 3101, p. 1774)
    101. Indian Health facilities needs assessment workgroup (Section 3101, p. 1775)
    102. Indian Health Service tribal facilities joint venture demonstration projects (Section 3101, p. 1809)
    103. Urban youth treatment center demonstration project (Section 3101, p. 1873)
    104. Grants to Urban Indian Organizations for diabetes prevention (Section 3101, p. 1874)
    105. Grants to Urban Indian Organizations for health IT adoption (Section 3101, p. 1877)
    106. Mental health technician training program (Section 3101, p. 1898)
    107. Indian youth telemental health demonstration project (Section 3101, p. 1909)
    108. Program for treatment of child sexual abuse victims and perpetrators (Section 3101, p. 1925)
    109. Program for treatment of domestic violence and sexual abuse (Section 3101, p. 1927)
    110. Native American Health and Wellness Foundation (Section 3103, p. 1966)
    111. Committee for the Establishment of the Native American Health and Wellness Foundation (Section 3103, p. 1968

    They are friggin insane.

  55. The Dem’s in NJ got caught making negative robo calls about Christie saying they were Daggetts supporters and it got traced back to them and guess what? No main stream media on national news carrying it. A lot of political junkies say that the word on the street is that Dageett was put in there by the Dem’s to siphon votes off the Repub as they knew Corzine couldn’t get a majority.

  56. Palestinians downbeat despite US backtracking
    (AFP) – 2 hours ago

    JERUSALEM — Palestinians on Tuesday remained pessimistic about the likelihood of relaunching peace talks with Israel despite US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s attempt to clarify earlier remarks about settlements.

    During a visit to Morocco, Clinton told Arab leaders that Washington remains opposed to all Israeli settlement activity after she had praised an Israeli offer to ease construction as “unprecedented” during a trip to Jerusalem.

    Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki said on Monday he was “satisfied” with Clinton’s clarifications, but the Palestinian Authority (PA) insisted on Tuesday it will not relaunch talks without a complete settlement freeze.

    “Clinton’s backtracking on her remarks, especially with regard to the partial freeze of settlements, is not sufficient to restart negotiations with Israel,” PA spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina told AFP.

    “The administration must compel Israel to halt all settlements in the Palestinian territories, including natural growth and settlement activity in east Jerusalem.”

    Another Palestinian official close to Abbas said US pressure on the Palestinian Authority has been mounting in recent weeks, leading the president to seek aid from Arab and European states.

    “Abu Mazen (Abbas) will work towards building a unified Arab position… and will work with them to form a strong European position that will be more helpful to us,” the official said on condition of anonymity.

    The Palestinian press remained intensely pessimistic that US President Barack Obama will follow through on his demand that Israel halt settlement activity, seen as the main obstacle to relaunching the peace process.

    “It’s clear that the Obama administration is too weak to deliver on its promises, and that it has shifted from putting necessary pressure on Israel to pressuring the Palestinians,” an editorial in Al-Ayyam daily said.

    “The peace process died a long time ago… But it is in the interest of different local, Arab and international parties not to mourn it and bury it because the process, with or without peace, has become a demand unto itself.”

    Another editorial, in Palestinian daily Al-Quds, accused Israel of derailing another attempt at resolving the decades-old conflict.

    “Israel is now burying the vision and the initiative of Obama in its cradle, with the clear and explicit agreement of the Americans,” it said.

    “It’s clear that that negotiations as a choice and a programme and a culture have fallen past the point of no return.”

    Well this is what happens when you have an inexperienced potus who’s middle name is “backtracking.”

  57. “What did we do?”

    You F**KED royally up, that’s what you did you iowan idiots!

    In Iowa, Ms. McAreavy fears that the president’s health care plan will shortchange her Medicare benefits and mean infrequent mammogram examinations. She worries that his decision on Afghanistan will mean that her son, a member of the Iowa National Guard, will return to the battlefield. And she believes that too many of Mr. Obama’s actions are rooted in Democratic politics.

    “All my Republican friends — and independents — are sitting back saying, ‘Oh, what did we do?” Ms. McAreavy said. “I’m not to that point yet, but a lot
    of people are.”

    www dot nytimes dot com/2009/11/03/us/politics/03year

  58. confloyd,

    Still thinking about your daughter. Hope she’s improving.

    Scofazza is in the district north of mine and local talk radio is ALL OVER her for her hypocrisy!

    If I could vote in that district I would but since I can’t I’m sending positive energy to Hoffman in NY-23.

  59. November 3, 2009

    Hamas ‘tests long-range rocket’

    Thousands of rockets have been fired from Gaza since 2001
    The Palestinian militant group Hamas has test-fired a rocket capable of reaching Tel Aviv from Gaza, Israel’s head of military intelligence has said.

    Maj-Gen Amos Yadlin told a committee in parliament that the rocket was believed to be of Iranian origin and had been successfully fired out to sea.

    There was no immediate comment by Hamas and it is not clear what evidence there is that the rocket came from Iran. The new rocket has a range of about 60km (37 miles).

    Militants have in recent years fired thousands of rockets into southern Israel, many from Beit Hanoun in the north of the strip.
    Most have a range of just a few kilometres and land without causing injury or damage, though the rockets cause widespread fear and disruption.

    Since 2001, 18 people in Israel have been killed by rockets from Gaza.

    The furthest Palestinian militants have managed to fire rockets into Israel is approximately 46km (28 miles), hitting the city of Beersheba.

    Long-range Grad-style rockets have hit the city of Ashkelon since 2006.

    Hamas has controlled the interior of the Gaza Strip since it drove out forces loyal to the Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas in 2006.

    Israel withdrew its forces and settlers from Gaza in 2006 but continues to control the strip’s border, coastline and air space. Israel and Egypt maintain a crippling blockade on the territory.

    Israel launched a devastating assault on Gaza in December and January aimed, it said, at stopping rocket fire by Palestinian militants. Rocket fire since the assault has diminished dramatically.

  60. curiosityhasme, gonzo,

    i have tremendous respect for those in the healthcare field.

    but, CHM, you summed up what I’ve been going through in chemo TX. I’d say the majority of the staff are outstanding and professional but probably 20% fall into this category:
    ‘Unfortunately, so many nurses are so busy sprouting wings and halos, being legends in their own minds,’

    Since I never know who’s going to oversee TX, I walk around on eggshells with those divas, knowing that if I say the wrong thing at the wrong time I could be in for another hour or so of TX or they will not-so-gently jab the needles into my arm. Sad but true. It’s that way with most professions, I think. And just to be on the safe side, I always bring treats for the staff on my tx day, ju8st in case someone’s in a lousy mood. But like I said, from my brief experience I’d say 4 out of 5 nurses are good to excellent.

  61. Secretary of State Clinton to Pakistan: You Must Help Us Get Al Qaeda

    Tuesday , November 03, 2009

    HOST: Now you are going to Islamabad, where Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took a three-day trip, and her tone was tough and blunt. Now, the secretary was critical of Pakistan for not doing enough to fight al Qaeda, and her criticism doesn’t stop there. One thing we noticed in Pakistan, Secretary Clinton’s trip got enormous attention. We met the secretary in Islamabad and we asked her about all the attention she was getting.

    HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF STATE: Well, I’ve had a great trip. This is the third day of a three-day trip, and I’ve really gotten out to talk to people and listen to them and try to explain, you know, some of what we’re trying to do so that we dispel some of the misconceptions.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you were tough on them, though. I mean, I have one quote where you said, “I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where al Qaeda is and couldn’t get them, if they really wanted to.” So you’re talking about that — you’re hard on the government. You weren’t — you weren’t — you weren’t sugar-coating anything.

    CLINTON: Well, Greta, what we’re trying to do here is to rebuild a better relationship. You know, we’ve been friends and allies of Pakistan going back to their beginning, but there is a deep level of mistrust and suspicion about America’s intentions and actions that has built up over the last eight years. When we came into office, we looked at the — you know, the public research and we saw that even though we have a common enemy and a common threat that we have to pursue together, there wasn’t the base of understanding that there needed to be.

    So I wanted to come and I needed to, you know, find time so that I wouldn’t just talk to government officials, as important as that is, but get out into, you know, different settings, universities and business groups, and really listen to people.

    And they said to me very clearly, Look, we have a trust deficit for you. And I said, Well, look, that’s a two-way street. And I’m happy to take any of your questions. I’m happy to admit where we may not have always done as well as we could have in our relationship. But a lot of people back home want to know, you know, How come al Qaeda has a safe haven in Pakistan? How come we arrest somebody like Zazi and find out that he was trained in a training camp run by al Qaeda in Pakistan?

    I think that’s the kind of relationship we need to have. I mean, we’re very impressed by the campaign that the military here is running against the Pakistan Taliban in Swat and South Waziristan. But our point to our friends in Pakistan is that that is an important and necessary step for you to take, but remember that there is a terrorist syndicate with al Qaeda at the head. They inspire. They direct. They fund these groups. And so you can’t just say your job is done because you’ve cleared out Swat and you’ve cleared out South Waziristan until we truly root out what is, in my view, the source of a syndicate and a lot of the problems that Pakistan, Afghanistan and the rest of us face.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I realize sort of you’ve got to have a — you certainly have a different role here in this country than I do, but what struck me is that there was — there is some blame among the very few people I spoke to that we’re responsible, for instance, for the violence that they just recently had because we’re not handling our affairs in Afghanistan, it’s pushed down into Pakistan, and that it’s somehow, you know, in part our responsibility. Is it in part our responsibility, or is this just them blaming us?

    CLINTON: Well, that’s where we need to have the kind of dialogue I’m talking about. Clearly, al Qaeda left Afghanistan and we let them out. You know, we should have taken them out when we had the chance back in ’01 and ’02. And they escaped, and they escaped into Pakistan. So to that extent, you know, if we had done a better job going into a Afghanistan and captured the people who attacked us or killed them, you know, we would be maybe in a different position.

    But there are homegrown terrorists here in Pakistan. They’ve made common cause with al Qaeda. So we can look backwards through the rearview mirror and say we shoulda, coulda, woulda, and you shoulda, coulda, woulda, too. Or we can say, Look, we have a common enemy. And we’re proud that you’re going to after the Pakistan Taliban, who are causing so much damage and destruction, that terrible bombing in Peshawar the other day. But that’s not enough. You have to help us get al Qaeda. You will be more secure if you help us get the people who are helping to fund and train and equip the very people you’re going after in South Waziristan right now.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Up next, the nightmare, nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists. Secretary Clinton answers that terrifying question. Is Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal secure?

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, it seems another one of the controversies here is the aid from the United States. I mean, we have an enormous goal to help them, for self — forget the humanitarian reasons, and that’s also important to keep — you know, so they have a stable economy and a stable government. But of course, we have self-interest because of the homegrown terrorism that gets sent over to the United States. But they don’t like it when we give them aid, and we tell them we have strings attached to it, This is what we need to have you do with it. That’s a problem.

    CLINTON: Well, we had a lot of discussion about that because this really became a very big issue here in Pakistan, and I don’t think most of us in America really understood what’s the beef. You know, we’re trying to demonstrate a long-term commitment to the development of Pakistan, to your energy sector, to education, infrastructure, health, the kinds of things that will provide a greater level of stability for the people of Pakistan because their incomes will be rising and their futures will look better.

    But in the, you know, three days I’ve been here, we could have phrased some things differently. We could have been a little more sensitive to how we are perceived. I’ve been very clear. I’ve said, Look, if you guys don’t want the aid, you don’t have to take it. I mean, we think it’s in your interests and our interests that we have this relationship. But they’ve come back and said, No, wait a minute. We — you know, we didn’t understand some of what you were talking about there.

    So you know, there’s enough room for misunderstanding. We need to clear the air and we need to do it on an ongoing basis.

    VAN SUSTEREN: There has been some suspicion on the part of India that aid from the United States to Pakistan was being used to form these terrorist groups that then would inflict terror in India. I mean, they’re even suspicious of the sort of the cycle of where the aid goes. Do the Pakistanis not understand why we Americans would really want to know where the money is spent and how it’s spent and why we put the strings on it?

    CLINTON: I think that they do understand that, but I think that what their concern was, is that some of the way we worded what is the accountability, that we have to be accountable to the American taxpayer — and I’ve said that over and over again in my meetings — they didn’t — you know, that it was taken the wrong way.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, like, what, because now I sort of have the misunderstanding of their misunderstanding because…

    VAN SUSTEREN: … I’m coming here and thinking, you know, We’re giving you money, and you’re complaining about, you know, the strings. So what don’t I get?

    CLINTON: Well, I’ll give you an example. You know, one of the features in the bill was to say the United States has to, you know, verify that there’s civilian control over the military. Well, I can see why the government and the people would say, We just got rid of a military government because we wanted a democracy, and the democracy is now in place and we are in charge. And why would you question that? I mean, do you see what I mean? So we just have to be aware.

    The point is that what that bill was intended to do was to demonstrate a long-term commitment to Pakistan, which I think is absolutely right. What it did not do was impose micromanaging and all the rest of it. But what is absolutely clear is that when we give aid anywhere, we have accountability measures. And I’ve explained that. This is not unique to Pakistan. This is something that, you know, we expect.

    And so I think we could have been just cleaner and simpler and say, you know, We need to make sure that whatever aid we give goes for the intended objective, and there will be measurements of accountability to ensure that that happens. You know, I think that’s exactly the kind of, you know, straightforward expectation that they should have about what it is we’re doing.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Are you confident that the nuclear weapons here in this country are secure? Because I know — at least, I’ve read that if we don’t help them out financially, the government’s going to crumble. So I assume that we need to financially help them so their government doesn’t crumble so their weapons continue to remain safe. Right or wrong?

    CLINTON: Well, I do have confidence in the security of their nuclear arsenal. And I’m sure that this democratic government, you know, is, you know, under that kind of threat. But we want to strengthen democratic institutions in Pakistan. We want to, you know, create the conditions where the people of Pakistan have a stake in the future that they’re trying to build together. We want to, you know, eliminate any kind of, you know, a safe, you know, haven or any kind of support for these terrorist groups because it’s in our interests, but it’s also in the Pakistani interests. So that’s, you know, what we’re challenged by and that’s what, you know, I get up every day and try to work on.

    VAN SUSTEREN: And even our strategy in — military strategy in Afghanistan bleeds over into this country. I mean, you can’t just sort of, I guess, look at it in a vacuum. When the president makes that decision, it’s going to bleed into this country, whatever the decision is.

    CLINTON: Absolutely. I mean, when we first did our review upon taking office, we concluded that you had to look at Afghanistan and Pakistan together in light of the war on terror that we had to wage. And we are well aware that, you know, the stronger the partnership we have with Pakistan, the stronger their efforts to root out terrorists in their own country, the better the situation is across the border in Afghanistan.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So why do you like this job? I mean, this is — I mean, I’m not kidding. I say, Why do you like this job? I mean, it — it is so complicated!

    CLINTON: It is. It’s really complicated and it’s very hard because, first of all, I believe that the United States has an essential role to play in the world and there’s not a problem we can walk away from, that we have to prioritize because we can’t be all things to all people, but we have to be out there trying and working to solve problems and convincing people to come to our side and understand how we see the world. And I believe it’s absolutely critically important — probably more complicated today than it’s been in the past, but even more important today.,2933,571269,00.html

  62. I came across this on the web. Survey USA (don’t know about it’s reliabilty) had a poll late yesterday showing Christie ahead of Corzine 45 to 42% in New Jersey but some Obama bots are saying that another part of the poll, counting early voters, shows Corzine 50% and Christie 38% (but there is a high margin of error of 8%).

    This is from the Direct Democracy website, a place I don’t often frequent since it became Obamaland so who knows if any of this is accurate or not. Like all other elections I guess turnout will be the key..

  63. UPDATE 1-Virginia, New Jersey races may test Obama’s clout
    Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:17am EST

    * Democrats bracing for possibility of losses

    * Will Obama’s appearances help?

    * Wild race in New York congressional district (Adds Plouffe, Hoyer quotes)

    By Steve Holland

    WASHINGTON, Nov 3 (Reuters) – Republicans seeking a comeback from recent losses may pick up the governor’s seats in Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday in campaigns that tested the limits of U.S. President Barack Obama’s influence.

    Democrats were bracing for the unhappy possibility they could go down to defeat not just in those two states but in a congressional district in upstate New York where a conservative candidate was leading.

    The election outcome could give some clues as to the national mood a year after Obama was elected president and a year before 2010 congressional elections that will represent the first clear referendum on Obama’s time in office.

    David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager in his run to the White House, dismissed the potential impact of the governor’s races on Democrats and the 2010 elections. “These are local races, there’s 18,000 lifetimes between now and next November,” Plouffe said on NBC’s “Today” show.

    While local factors influenced all three races, the weak state of the U.S. economy was an overarching issue that played a role in each state.

    In Virginia, Republican Bob McDonnell was leading Democrat Creigh Deeds by double digits in opinion polls as Virginians went to the polls — an opportunity for Republicans a year after Obama became the first Democratic presidential nominee to win the state since 1964. Two appearances on Deeds’ behalf by Obama appeared to have little impact, as Democrats suffered from a lack of enthusiasm without Obama on the ticket and Republicans were energized by the chance to take back the governor’s seat, held by Democrats the past eight years. Voting ends at 7 p.m. EST (0000 GMT) and the winner could be known a few hours later.


    In New Jersey, Republican Chris Christie has been running neck-and-neck with Democratic Governor Jon Corzine, the former Wall Street executive who has pumped $23 million of his own money into his campaign. A poll released on Monday gave the Republican a slight lead.

    Independent candidate Chris Daggett trailed, and a key question concerned how many of Daggett’s supporters would abandon him for Christie or Corzine and sway the race.

    Obama campaigned with Corzine on Sunday and made a last-ditch appeal for the Democrat. “We will not lose this election if all of you are as committed as you were last year,” he said. “So I want everybody in this auditorium to make a pledge that in these next 48 hours, you will work just as hard for Jon as you worked for me.”

    New Jersey polls close at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Wednesday) but it could be some hours before the outcome is clear.

    While a Virginia loss for the Democrats could be considered fairly predictable in a state long considered a Republican stronghold, a defeat in New Jersey would be seen as a bigger blow to the party because the state leans Democratic. Obama won it by 16 points last year. “If the Democrats win New Jersey and lose Virginia, I would basically say, no harm, no foul,” said Democratic strategist Doug Schoen. “The only real adverse impact is if the administration loses two campaigns, especially one they’re heavily invested in in New Jersey.”

    Steny Hoyer, the Democratic leader in the U.S. House of Representatives, said Democratic losses in the governor’s races would not slow Obama’s domestic agenda in Congress, particularly the raging battle over a healthcare overhaul.
    “The campaign has not been about that. Their ads have not been about that. That’s not part of the campaign,” he said.

    In New York City, Mayor Michael Bloomberg appeared headed to victory over Democrat Bill Thompson after engineering a rules change to allow him to run for a third term and spending millions of his own money. As of last month, the billionaire mayor had spent $85 million to Thompson’s $6 million.


    A wild race was taking place in New York’s 23rd congressional district for a House seat left vacant when Obama picked Republican John McHugh as his Army secretary.

    Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman was leading Democrat Bill Owens slightly in the traditionally Republican district. The race took a bizarre twist over the weekend when Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava withdrew because of flagging support and endorsed the Democrat.

    Democrats charged the race was an example of how divided the Republican Party has become between conservatives and moderates as it tries to rebound from losing control of Congress in 2006 and the White House in 2008.

    Hoffman had been endorsed by conservative Republicans such as Sarah Palin, last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee. “If you look at what I think is likely to happen next year, you already have some Republicans who are more aligned with the very conservative element of what’s happening in New York, saying, ‘This is a model for what you’ll see throughout the country,'” said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

  64. gonzo,

    I am covering some of the elections in the Catskills and while we’re one district south of the NY-23, I will tell you that there’s an uncharacteristically large turnout for an off-year in these parts according to the poll workers I’ve spoken to.

  65. Well, the poll workers clammed up when I let them know I’m with the local daily but I did get the impression that people are upset with the economy and are not happy with the direction the country is going in.

    But this county, as is the case with many upstate NY areas, is predominantly conservative to begin with.

    I would think the concerns here would be similar to those in the NY-23, which is just north of Albany, and that would bode well for Hoffman. I don’t know much about the man but I hope he wins if for no other reason than it would damage Squat. BTW – I’ve read that Intrade is a good predictor of political stuff.

    It has Corzine at only 50% but Hoffman at over 80%. It also predicts HCR will not pass this year and that more troops will be sent to Afghanistan. Some posters have said Intrade was the most accurate political predictor in 2008.

  66. Maybe this is why Gore didn’t fight so hard to be president…He was bought off? Just saying, quite a turn around…from American Thinker

    November 03, 2009
    Al Gore, the first ‘carbon billionaire’ (updated)
    Douglas Lang

    Al Gore’s is positioned to become a green billionaire thanks to his investment in several ‘green energy’ companies which reportedly will soon be awarded healthy contracts by the US government. If it were anything other than ‘green’ energy — say oil, there would be widespread outrage.

    The UK Telegraph reports:

    Last year Mr Gore’s venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology.

    The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient.

    The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts.

    Thomas Lifson adds:

    This stinks of corruption. “Grants” means that our tax money is being given to private companies. This “smart grid” push would be financed by private markets if it had economic merit. Keep in mind that with a “smart grid”, statists will be able to monitor and control the electricity consumption of individual households from a central location. General Electric, closely aligned with the Obama Left, stands to profit hugely from government money put into the “smart grid.”

    Update from Randall Hoven

    Did Al Gore forget to pay his CPUSA dues? The New York Times, of all liberal mouthpieces, is outing the former Vice President for the crime of making big money. l

    In this case, though, the way Gore makes that money is not quite the old fashioned way. (Although, in the sense of the world’s oldest profession, it is.) Here is how it works.

    Step 1. Lobby the world, the country, and the government that it must do something big and soon to save the planet. In Gore’s case, we have his book, his movie, his franchised PowerPoint brief, his Nobel Peace Prize, his Oscar, etc.

    Step 2. Specifically lobby your government to spend big money on projects to save the planet. Better yet, make sure that money goes to very specific contractors. In this case, we have “smart grids”, which the government is now spending $3.4 billion on. And specifically, a little company called “Silver Spring Networks” got $560 million from the government for it.

    Step 3. Invest in those very specific contractors. In Al Gore’s case, he has a company for this investing kind of thing: Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. His company, by coincidence I’m sure, had invested $75 million in Silver Spring.

    Step 4. Collect big money from those investments. In Al Gore’s case, he is also a “corporate adviser” to Silver Spring.

    Al Gore defends all this as putting his money where his mouth is and investing in what he believes. That would almost make sense, were it not for the fact that money is made in this “industry” only because the government is sending dump-trucks full of money to these companies.

    One would think that, with energy costing so much, good old profit-maximizing corporations would be looking for ways to cut energy costs. But apparently, Al Gore, Barack Obama and other energy experts know better. They know so much, in fact, that they will invest billions of your tax dollars where even greedy capitalists fear to tread.

    Funny how Democrat politicians know how to make money better than greedy capitalists, isn’t it? You might think our government is many trillion dollars in debt. But Gore and Obama actually saved or created trillions of dollars over the years with their investments of your money. Just ask Joe Biden.

    Thomas Lifson adds:

    I posit another step for Gore: secure flattering media coverage, such as this over-the-top cover story in Newsweek titled wit the caption: “The Thinking man’s thinking man.” This about the a guy whose college science grades at Harvard were disgraceful.

  67. Wasn’t someone here saying early voting Corzine had a big lead? Well here’s why and surprise, Acorn is @ the bottom of it….. mass fraud, what a surprise, stealing another, Chicago style…

    ACORN Aims to Tip New Jersey Election in Corzine’s Favor

    Monday, November 2, 2009 6:36 PM

    By: David A. Patten Article Font Size

    Fearing a potentially devastating Democratic loss, the highly controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) group and its affiliated organizations are gearing up to tip the scales and re-elect the beleaguered incumbent in the hard-fought New Jersey gubernatorial race, sources tell Newsmax.

    “ACORN is heavily involved in Gov. Jon Corzine’s get-out-the-vote operation, but is maintaining a low profile at the insistence of the Corzine campaign,” Matthew Vadum, senior editor of the conservative Capital Research Center think tank, tells Newsmax. “If Corzine manages to win reelection, he doesn’t want the victory tainted by his close association with ACORN.”

    Wall Street Journal columnist and author John Fund wrote Tuesday that “Plenty of reasons exist for suspecting absentee fraud may play a significant role in tomorrow’s Garden State contests.”

    ACORN-linked groups from neighboring Pennsylvania and New York “appear to have moved into the state,” Fund wrote.

    Fund also reported that the state’s Democratic Party is pressuring county clerks around the Garden State to downplay signature checks on absentee ballots. Without such checking, it is very difficult to detect absentee vote fraud.

    Although bruised and battered by the recent undercover videos depicting workers at various ACORN offices giving advice on tax evasion to a reputed child-prostitution ring, ACORN remains a potent political force in many regions. It has been the focus of voter-registration fraud investigations in more than a dozen states.

    A search of the Web site shows that the organization has a heavy presence in New Jersey. It maintains offices in Jersey City, Trenton, Paterson, and Newark.

    The group could play an important role in voter turnout, which many pundits predict will determine whether Corzine or his Republican challenger, Chris Christie, emerges victorious.

    The latest Quinnipiac poll shows Christie clinging to a narrow 42 percent to 40 percent lead over Corzine, with independent Christopher Daggett garnering 12 percent. Among those Daggett voters who say they may change their minds, Christie is preferred 39 percent to 29 percent.

    Although those trends would appear to favor Christie, Republicans haven’t forgotten the prolonged Minnesota recount battle that ended with Democrat Al Franken being awarded the victory over GOP incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman. The bitter lesson drawn by many Republicans: Once officials in a heavily Democratic state declare a race close enough for a recount, all bets are off.

    “If there is a recount,” Fund writes, “you can bet disputes about absentee ballots will loom large. Moreover, if serious allegations of fraud emerge, you can also expect less-than-vigorous investigation by the Obama Justice Department — which showed just how seriously it takes such allegations when it walked away from an open-and-shut voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia earlier this year.”

    Absentee ballots become critical in every recount, and New Jersey officials are reporting a marked increase in requests for absentee ballots.

    “There has been a reported surge in absentee balloting, which might be suspicious but isn’t necessarily proof of anything,” Vadum tells Newsmax.

    Fund reports that state officials received “a flood” of more than 180,000 requests for absentee ballots.

    “On some 3,000 forms the signature doesn’t match the one on file with county clerks,” Fund adds. “Yet citing concerns that voters would be disenfranchised, Democratic Party lawyer Paul Josephson wrote New Jersey’s secretary of state asking her ‘to instruct county clerks not to deny applications on the basis of signature comparison alone.'”

    Voter-fraud allegations have marred several New Jersey elections in recent years, Fund reports.

    In September, New Jersey Attorney General Anne Milgram announced the indictments of Atlantic City Councilman Marty Small and 13 campaign workers, charging that they solicited absentee ballots on behalf of individuals not qualified to receive them, then opened the sealed ballots, and destroyed any that were not cast for Small.

    In this election, supporters of Roberto Feliz, an Independent candidate for mayor of Camden, are sounding alarms over suspicious ballot activity, Fund reports. One Feliz backer says absentee ballots, which are thought to be more vulnerable to voter fraud, have increased by a factor of 15 compared with previous elections.

    “In the 2005, when the city’s voters voted for both governor and mayor on the same day, only 200 absentee ballots were cast,” Fund writes. “This year, some 3,700 have already been received.”

    Fund adds that the Feliz campaign has received complaints from voters regarding absentee irregularities.

    Fund writes: “I spoke with Uremia Rojas who reports that ‘a man with a clipboard knocked on my door and had me sign something so I could vote by mail. I was skeptical but signed and got a ballot. I never really wanted one.'”

    According to Fund, SEIU Local 32BJ, which is headquartered in Philadelphia but maintains an office in Newark, is “heavily involved” in the New Jersey gubernatorial election. The local’s political director, Peter Colavito, is a former political chief for ACORN, Fund says.

    New York’s Working Families Party also has “moved into” New Jersey, he reports. The Working Families Party has very close ties to Acorn, an organization notorious for its labyrinthine network of affiliates.

    In October, The New York Times reported that, before becoming White House political director, Patrick Gaspard “worked with ACORN in New York to set up the Working Families political party and sat on the party’s board,” along with ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis.

    Fanning Republican fears is the fact that, despite New Jersey’s recent run-ins with vote-fraud allegations, Corzine signed a new “Vote by Mail” law in June that some believe may make it harder to detect fraudulent ballots.

    That law allows voters to opt to receive mail-in ballots automatically for all state elections, which eliminates the need ever to show up at a polling place and submit identification.

    “There are also new opportunities for voting shenanigans in New Jersey,” Vadum says. “Voting by mail is even easier now, thanks to the law Corzine signed.”

    There was no immediate response from the Corzine campaign or ACORN Monday afternoon to a Newsmax request for comment regarding ACORN’s reported involvement in the election.

  68. Good luck Acorn – this just in


    as of noon, trusted sources says total turnout in GOP & swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts.

    33 minutes ago from TweetDeck

    looks like Corzine is going down in flames.

  69. JanH
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
    It makes no sense to me that obama would congratulate Karzai on his re-election. What re-election?

    I guess obama’s personal corruptness spoke to Karzai’s.

    I thought Obumma’s “congratulations” on Karzai’s “win” was offensive. It reinforces that he doesn’t see the need to count real votes, in primaries or general elections. You just start out with a result, and you bribe and buy your way into office.

    So that’s how he can congradulate Karzai for his “win”.

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