The Big Story Is AHIP, Not The Senate Finance Committee Passes A Bill

We’re not going to waste time. There is no point taking seriously the Baucus Senate Finance Committee health care bill. If we were asked to discuss whether Obama is the Messiah or just a brilliant leader we would not waste time either because we know he is a flim-flam man. Likewise we will not waste time discussing the flim-flam bill which today was voted out of the Senate Finance Committee.

Much more interesting is the latest play on the chessboard by the health insurance industry via their lobbying arm AHIP (America’s Health Insurance Plans) and what that means. To us what it means is that if the health care scam Obama is running actually passes this year, it will become the Big Story for Republicans next year as they try to wrest control of the congress from Dimocrats. More importantly, Republicans and the Obama opposition will have the financial resources not available until now. And do not doubt that more opposition money will be coming – including labor union money.

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After spending $100 million on pro-“reform” advertisements (such as this one) the insurers are not happy. Insurers thought they had a deal with Obama to have the Internal Revenue Service police and beat down any American who tried to evade paying insurers thousands of dollars in premiums, thousands more in deductibles, and then get little to no coverage of medical expenses.

No surprise to readers of Big Pink that Obama and the insurers hid The Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss. Now, however, it appears there is a falling out among thieves.

The falling out among thieves – Barack Obama and the Insurance industry – came about because of even more watering down in the Senate Finance Committee of profits the industry expected from Obama. Such is the disaster emerging in Obama health care legislation that Obama will sign anything and to get something to sign Obama had to agree to water down the Baucus mess even more.

Get it? Let’s restate: (a) Obama wants a bill, which; (b) will have to be a watery mess in order to get votes. But, in watering down the bill (c) Obama had to agree to get rid of provisions which would bring billions of new profit dollars to insurers.

Darn it, now we have to waste time discussing some of the Baucus bill details. Here’s “reputable” Obama-loving Time magazine:

Under the Democratic bills, federal tax credits to help make health insurance affordable for millions of low- and middle-income households won’t start flowing until 2013 — after the next presidential election. But Medicare cuts and a sizable chunk of the tax increases to pay for the overhaul kick in immediately. [snip]

Lawmakers use a 10-year accounting window to assess new programs. Starting the Medicare cuts and some of the taxes in the early years — and pushing the bulk of new spending into the latter years — helps keep the cost of the health care overhaul within Obama’s $900 billion limit. [snip]

“It means that the full cost of the program is underestimated in the 10-year window that you are looking at,” said Gail Wilensky, who ran Medicare for former President George H.W. Bush. “It’s not like we’ve never seen this before, but people need to understand what’s going on.” [snip]

To answer Obama’s call for an immediate end to insurance company discrimination against the sick, Baucus would set aside $5 billion from 2010-2013 to help states provide affordable coverage to people denied because of a medical condition. The money would be apportioned to high-risk insurance pools that many states have set up.

It may not go far enough. State high-risk pools now spend about $1 billion a year and cover only 200,000 people. [snip]

If there’s a silver lining in the three-year wait, it’s that it will give individuals and families time to prepare for a new federal requirement to carry health insurance, starting in 2013. That won’t be a problem for the majority who with employer or government coverage. But even with the tax credits that Democrats are proposing, many middle-class families that buy their own coverage still may be unable to afford it, and risk being assessed a penalty.

But lawmakers may have figured out how to use time to their advantage. The Senate Finance Committee voted to pare down the penalties and postpone them until 2014. Because the fines would be collected through income taxes, no one will get a bill until April 2015.

It is the pared down penalties that has insurers upset because low penalties means that many Americans, especially the young, will choose to pay penalties rather than turn over thousands of dollars for “junk insurance” that will provide limited benefits after thousands of more dollars in deductibles are paid.

Labor unions are now getting ready to join AHIP in opposition to key provisions of Obama’s health care scam:

About 30 unions will run a full-page ad in newspapers Wednesday announcing their opposition to the Senate Finance Committee’s health overhaul bill, a top labor lobbyist said.

The ad will state that unions will oppose the measure on the Senate floor unless improvements are made, according to Chuck Loveless, legislative director of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

The ad will state, “Real health care reform and nothing less,” Loveless said.

Labor has been a major Democratic ally in the health care debate but is unhappy the legislation lacks a publicly run insurance plan and would tax expensive policies in an effort to drive down costs.

AHIP has an advertisement out today. The ad states: “Is it right to ask 10 million seniors on Medicare advantage for more than their fair share?” “Congress is proposing over 100 billion in cuts to Medicare advantage. The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says many seniors will see cuts in benefits.”



The advertisement is running in states such as Missouri, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Louisiana and Nevada.

A million dollars will be spent in the above ad in the next few days. Many more millions, possibly hundreds of millions of dollars are sure to follow.

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So the Big Story today is not the Senate Finance Committee vote. The Big Story is that the disaster which is the Obama health care plan will not end once there is a vote in the Senate and House.

The health care fight will be the Big Story next year and there will be hundreds of millions of dollars to punish Dimocrats for voting for the scam.

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  1. postonpolitics.com/

    U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Boca Raton, will resign from Congress to take a “public policy position,” Democratic sources said today.

    “He called. He is going to resign….He told me that he is moving on. Beyond that, I don’t have any any answers,” said state Sen. Jeremy Ring, D-Coral Springs. Ring said he is considering running in the special election to replace Wexler.

    Another Wexler confidant, Palm Beach County Commissioner Burt Aaronson, said he talked to Wexler this afternoon and Wexler “said he had to do what he had to do for his family.” Wexler didn’t specifically say he would resign, Aaronson said, but by “putting two and two together” he concluded Wexler is leaving office.

    Another Democratic insider said Wexler is considering a position related to Middle East policy. It wasn’t immediately clear if the post was inside or outside government.

    Wexler’s office would not comment, but said the seven-term congressman would discuss his future plans with reporters Wednesday morning in Boca Raton.

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  2. Good news S.

    Wexler is another one who stabbed Hillary in the back. (expect jbstonesfan to do cartwheels today)

    We also remember this:

    http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2008/07/wexler_received_maryland_tax_b.html

    For at least three years, U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler received tax breaks in Maryland by claiming his house there as his primary residence.

    The Democratic congressman ostensibly from Boca Raton or Delray Beach has been under fire after he admitted on national TV that the only house he owns is in Maryland and that he uses his in-laws’ home in a senior-only community in Delray Beach to meet residency requirements. robert%20wexler1.jpg

    Maryland offers its residents a tax break similar to Florida’s Save Our Homes exemption. Maryland residents receive a tax credit that basically caps how much their tax assessment can increase at no more than 10 percent a year.

    Maryland tax records show Wexler listed his home in Potomac, Md., as his primary residence in 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002. He changed his tax information in 2003 to state the house was not his primary residence.

    Wexler’s property tax bill in Maryland ranged between $3,803 and $3,995 during the years he declared the home his primary residence. The bill shot up to $5,147 in 2003 when he no longer received the tax break. He owed $8,933 on this year’s tax bill.

    Wexler sold his home in South Florida 11 years ago, the year he was sworn in to Congress. Later that year, he moved his wife, Laurie, two daughters and a son from their house west of Boca Raton to one in Maryland, which has been their home base since.

    His Maryland home is valued at $846,000.

  3. yes, Admin and Confloyd…Wexler has been a traitor and frankly a loudmouth showboater…I won’t miss him…another one that once had promise and went downhill…but you knew he was angling for something when he went for O…and always was trying to get in front of the cameras…

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    this ‘health reform’ debacle is such a scam…and with a congress that is at 21% approval…they will be below zero by the time this is over…

  4. This “health insurance reform” is a total disgrace and a slap in the face to the middle class. I will not vote for any senator or congressperson who votes for this bill.

  5. Another Democratic insider said Wexler is considering a position related to Middle East policy. It wasn’t immediately clear if the post was inside or outside government.
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    Is Camel jockey considered an inside job these days?

  6. Mrs. Smith, It seems that the Obama administration with all the talking about a new way, sure is letting the old has beens run things.

    I really do know that they are mortal enemies, thats why when Bambi went over there not one of them would shake his hands, so they sent Hillary. The idiots really thought that would fool the Russians, send a new messenger with the same old message doesn’t work.
    We are down, and they know it. I am sure when they were down we also knew it.
    This globalization thing is not going well for the “New World Order” people. It seems like the stupid Americans aren’t playing that game.

  7. Got it!

    ‘Get it? Let’s restate: (a) Obama wants a bill, which; (b) will have to be a watery mess in order to get votes. But, in watering down the bill (c) Obama had to agree to get rid of provisions which would bring billions of new profit dollars to insurers.’

    This POS burns me up. It is such a rip off of people who have paid into SS their entire lives. And about the 20 somethings buying insurance – fergeddaboudit! Everyone’s invincible then (not to mention poor) and it’s far cheaper to pay a 1G fine then pay a couple of G’s in insurance and if anything catastrophic happens there’s always the ER and according to the bauccus bill, they’ll be able to pick up insurnace, then.

    BTW – turndownobama had a great point in the previous thread about where such fines should go – back to the ER’s would be the right answer but won’t happen. 😈

  8. basil, BO will sign anything that has Health Insurance Reform attached to it. I really don’t think that he cares very much what is in it. He’ll be long gone, before many of the provisions take place.

  9. AP IMPACT: Obama’s favors blue states for travel
    By PHILIP ELLIOTT (AP) – 4 hours ago

    PITTSBURGH — For President Barack Obama, it’s almost as if the election campaign never ended. Just look at his travel schedule. The same states that Obama targeted to win the White House are seeing an awful lot of the president, Vice President Joe Biden and top Cabinet officials. Only this year, the taxpayers are footing the multimillion-dollar tab for the trips, and Obama officials are delivering wheelbarrows of economic stimulus money — also compliments of taxpayers.

    An Associated Press review of administration travel records shows that three of every four official trips Obama and his key lieutenants made in his first seven months in office were to the 28 states Obama won. Add trips to Missouri and Montana — both of which Obama narrowly lost — and almost 80 percent of the administration’s official domestic travel has been concentrated in states likely to be key to Obama’s re-election effort in 2012.

    While similar data hasn’t been compiled for previous administrations, new presidents traditionally have used official travel to shore up — and add to — their political base. Consider President George W. Bush’s travel record, for instance. “When we were trying to build support for key policy initiatives, it made sense for President Bush to travel to states with persuadable citizens,” says Scott Stanzel, a former White House spokesman who was the press secretary for Bush’s 2004 re-election bid. “That meant visits to ‘purple states’ where people weren’t as likely to already support or oppose the president’s plans.”

    For Obama, the key policy initiative early on was a $787 billion economic stimulus package. While aimed at the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, it also gave the new administration a chance to reap political benefits traditionally reserved for lawmakers touting pork-barrel projects back home.

    Though insisting that the stimulus legislation include no such “earmarked” congressional projects, Obama, Biden and the Cabinet spent months traveling the country to announce billions of dollars in new federal job-creating money that was going for bridge construction and green-energy projects, and for extended unemployment benefits.

    Biden in particular has been the bearer of stimulus good news, making nearly two dozen trips to 14 states to tout the legislation and its impact on local communities. The vice president has made five stimulus trips just to Pennsylvania, a must-win state in 2008 that never faded from Obama’s political planning meetings. All told, administration officials have been to the Keystone state more than three dozen times since January.

    Obama spoke last month to the nation’s largest labor organization in a packed Pittsburgh ballroom. Days before, Biden was at a Labor Day parade there and praised the reliably Democratic union members. Obama was back a week later, this time to meet with the leaders of the world’s 20 largest economies, whom he had invited to the one-time steel city that the White House sees as a barometer of its political standing.

    Yes, the White House loves Pittsburgh — and places like it in states that will play a key role in 2012. When Obama visits cities like Cleveland and Columbus, or Detroit and Denver, he gets wall-to-wall coverage in the local press from the time Air Force One lands until it departs, and his poll numbers in the area generally tick upward.

    In August, for example, Obama went to Elkhart, Ind., to announce $2.4 billion in stimulus grants for production of electric and hybrid cars. Indiana and Michigan — the two states benefiting the most — both backed Obama in 2008 and will be important politically to him next time.

    Colorado, which has shifted from Republican-leaning to Democrat-friendly in recent years, had seen Obama officials 35 times through early August, including Obama’s Feb. 17 trip to Denver to sign the stimulus bill into law. Virginia, which gave Obama a surprise victory in 2008 and has one of this year’s two governor’s races, has gotten 17 visits. Combined, those states have received $8.9 billion from the stimulus bill.

    The White House defended the travel as necessary to promote the administration’s agenda for the country. “President Obama and key members of his team have traveled to communities large and small … to discuss the encouraging impact of the Recovery Act and to reinforce this president’s commitment to creating the kind of jobs that will lay a new foundation for America’s long-term economic strength,” deputy press secretary Josh Earnest said in a statement. Earnest said Obama plans to travel this week to Louisiana and Texas, states that Republican Sen. John McCain won in the 2008 election.

    Sometimes, the administration’s travel has been political as well as personal. Before joining the Cabinet, many of Obama’s appointees were popular figures in their home states — four secretaries most recently were governors, four were members of Congress and Biden was a longtime senator. When they go home to announce a new grant or see a program firsthand, the administration has a spokesman who already has standing.

    Energy Secretary Steven Chu, for example, has made California his top destination; the Nobel Prize-winning physicist taught at the University of California, Berkeley, until he joined the administration. Similarly, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shawn Donovan has made New York and Connecticut his top destinations; he was New York’s housing chief before being tapped in December.

    The AP review of travel costs — some agencies refused to provide costs for security reasons — documented that the taxpayers have paid at least $1.4 million for trips by top administration officials this year, and that doesn’t include any costs for trips by Obama and Biden. It also doesn’t include travel costs by the secretaries of Homeland Security, Labor and Justice, whose departments declined to release tallies. Nor does it include the cost of security agents who travel everywhere with officials in the presidential line of succession, or the military aides who are always at their sides. It does, however, reflect the props needed at events, such as sound equipment, oversized U.S. flags, microphones and room rental.

    Costs vary widely from trip to trip, and from official to official:

    _Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood spent $747 to attend a Pullman Porters event in Philadelphia; he took Amtrak for the one-day trip.

    _Commerce Secretary Gary Locke spent $8,013 to address the National Conference of State Legislatures, also in Philadelphia, also a one-day trip.

    _Interior Secretary Ken Salazar spent $13,194 to meet with the families of Flight 93, the hijacked United Airlines plane that crashed into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, 2001; he returned to Washington that night.

    Travel costs, provided voluntarily by the Cabinet agencies at the White House’s urging, depend in large degree on the number of staff who accompany high-level officials. For instance, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson took a three-day trip to Tampa, Fla., that cost $10,408, with more than $9,200 attributed to traveling staff. While there, she spoke to the National Association of Black Journalists and announced $95 million in stimulus grants.

    When Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack made a two-day trip to New Hampshire in July, taxpayers picked up the $6,742 tab for the secretary, two aides and a dairy expert. Of that total, $4,467 went to staff costs.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hJKP6g1aCMmKbaNxB-757faysdJgD9BADAO02

  10. Tuesday, October 13, 2009

    Union asks White House to halt BofA CEO’s retirement paySan Francisco Business Times – by Mark Calvey

    The Service Employees International Union is asking the Obama Administration to put a halt Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis’ multi-million-dollar retirement package. The letter, posted on the union’s web site, describes Lewis as “one of the chief architects of the most severe economic crisis since the Great Depression.”

    BofA (NYSE: BAC) did not have an immediate response to the letter.

    The SEIU has been a frequent critic of Lewis.

    Lewis is scheduled to retire at the end of the year. According to the bank’s 2009 proxy, Lewis’ retirement package includes a pension of $53.2 million; deferred compensation of $10.6 million; and 305,000 restricted shares valued at about $5 million.

    In the letter to be delivered to Kenneth Feinberg, the White House’s special adviser on executive compensation, the SEIU said, “The American people are counting on you to reform the reckless culture of Wall Street that allows bank executives to drive our economy into the ground and walk away with millions.”

    sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/10/12/daily35.html

  11. Will the U.S. veto prosecution of Israeli soldiers when this kangeroo court takes place? If they don’t then they can say good by to any cooperation from Israel in their peace plans. If they do, they will bring down the wrath of the biased terrorist groups, who are pushing their hate agenda, on their heads. Interesting dilemma obama has put the nation in.

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    Arab envoys to push Goldstone paper

    Oct. 14, 2009
    E.B. SOLOMONT and TOVAH LAZAROFF

    Israel is poised for a showdown with Palestinian diplomats and representatives of Arab states who plan to use Wednesday’s UN Security Council debate to press for action on the Goldstone Report. Israel’s ambassador to the UN in New York, Gabriela Shalev, is expected to address the council during its monthly debate on the Middle East.

    The council will likely focus on the Goldstone Report, which alleged that the IDF committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity during its offensive against Hamas in Gaza last winter.

    Jerusalem has rejected the Goldstone Commission’s mandate as biased and inherently flawed, but Wednesday’s debate presents Israel with an opportunity to publicly address Arab states.

    The Security Council meeting was moved up from October 20, after a Libyan request for an “emergency” session to discuss the Goldstone document was denied. Palestinian officials have rallied support at the UN among countries that plan to weigh in on the report, produced last month by a four-person commission headed by South African jurist Richard Goldstone.

    “We are sure that several countries will talk about Goldstone. It will be a big part of the discussion,” a Western diplomat said.

    Still, the Security Council, which has the authority to ask the International Criminal Court in The Hague to use the document as a basis for prosecuting individual Israelis, is not expected to take any action on the matter. The debate in New York will take place a day before the UN Human Rights Council holds a special session on the report in Geneva.

    The Human Rights Council will likely demand action on the report, including sending it to the UN General Assembly, which in turn could send it to the International Court of Justice, also in The Hague. The Human Rights Council could also demand that the Security Council turn to the International Criminal Court, a move that would likely be vetoed by Western countries on the Security Council.

    While US officials have repeatedly stressed their position – that fallout from the Goldstone Report belongs in the Human Rights Council, which mandated the fact-finding mission – Palestinian Authority Foreign Minister Riyad al-Malki has crisscrossed the globe, shoring up support for a discussion in the Security Council.

    Malki is expected to speak on Wednesday, to press the cause and raise other concerns, including the recent Israeli security measures in Jerusalem around the Temple Mount. “Of course the emphasis will be on the Goldstone Report, and we are inviting all countries to come and to intervene in that session and really to stress the importance of the discussion of the Goldstone Report and the importance of endorsing the recommendations of such a report,” Malki told reporters in New York on Friday.

    He spoke following meetings with the Vietnamese ambassador, this month presiding over the Security Council, and the president of the General Assembly, Ali Abdussalam Treki of Libya. “We not only supported the [Goldstone] Commission, we also supported the report that came out of the commission, and we also supported all the recommendations that were in that report,” Malki said. “This is our only choice, to continue with such a report in order to seek its implementation and for the recommendations to be implemented,” he said. “That’s why we are here.” Malki also met with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who on Sunday praised Palestinian leaders’ engagement with UN member states regarding the Goldstone Report.

    The secretary-general and PA President Mahmoud Abbas spoke by phone, and Ban “expressed his support for President Abbas’s engagement with member states on a proper process for the consideration of the Goldstone Report,” according to Ban’s spokeswoman, Michele Montas. She said Ban would elaborate on his views on the report when the matter was officially taken up by UN bodies.

    But in Geneva, PLO Ambassador to the UN Ibrahim Khraishi said he saw the call as a sign that Abbas supported the Palestinian decision to call for a special session. “Yesterday’s statement by the secretary-general was very important,” Khraishi told The Jerusalem Post.

    On Tuesday, the Human Rights Council said that 18 of its 47 member states had co-sponsored the Palestinians’ request for the session: Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bolivia, China, Cuba, Djibouti, Egypt, Gabon, Indonesia, Jordan, Mauritius, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Senegal.

    The session starts on Thursday and ends on Friday, the council said. This is the 12th special session the UN Human Rights Council has held since its inception in 2006, and the sixth that it has held on Israel.

    Khraishi said that the Palestinians had expanded the text of the resolution it was planning to place before the council, to include Israeli violations of international law in east Jerusalem.

    Speaking to reporters in New York on Tuesday, Montas said Ban would only consider bringing the Goldstone Report to the Security Council after Friday, once the Human Rights Council had approved a resolution on the matter.

    The United States and other Western states on the council can veto any action that body might take on the report. But there is no such veto power in the UN General Assembly.

    Palestinian leaders have pledged to pursue the implementation of the Goldstone Report in several UN venues, and their next focus is the General Assembly, after Wednesday’s Security Council debate. Malki said Palestinian diplomats were coordinating with Libya, Arab states and others to get “full backing and support.”

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255450644782&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  12. birdgal,
    “He’ll be long gone, before many of the provisions take place.”

    that’s the story of our lives, isn’t it? Always the Mf-ing bureaucrats inventing rules and regs they’ll never have to observe and then cutting out when the sh!!t hits the fan.
    They never seem to suffer the consequences of their actions – we do it for them. I am so disgusted by this. If i wasn’t a do-no-harm-to-others unless they physically threaten you kind of person- i dunno – oTOH – this HCR bill does do harm to us, doesn’t it?

  13. i dunno – oTOH – this HCR bill does do harm to us, doesn’t it?
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    Well, I think it does. The Medicare cuts will take place right away, which I believe will lead to a cut in services. How could it not?

    Harmful, yes. Higher taxes, premiums, deductibles, and co-pays will all increase, since there are no cost controls built into the plan.

    As far as “Cadillac” plans, those are plans that unions have fought for, for many years, often times settling for a lower salary. Taxing these plans and counting health care benefits as income, will definitely increase the tax burden on the middle class.

    In addition, since health care plans cost more for older people, how long before the premiums increase and those plans are considered “cadillac” plans?

    I also read that health care benefits for retirees will be taxed as income. Now, whether or not, any of these provisions are in the final bill, remains to be seen.

    The Bacus bill needs to be merged with the more liberal House bill. We still don’t know for sure, what we will end up with, but it isn’t going to be good.

  14. confloyd Says:
    October 13th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    “Mrs. Smith, It seems that the Obama administration with all the talking about a new way, sure is letting the old has beens run things.”

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    Obama is following Saul Alinsky’s philosophy point by point dismantling the establishment and the Federal government. It was Alinsky who coined the word “CHANGE” during his “community organizer” days. Dismantling city government was the focus of his curriculum teaching new recruits how to dismantle city government as he did in Chicago to Mayor Daley Sr.

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    “thats why when Bambi went over there not one of them would shake his hand.”

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    And I loved it when they said: “efu pal”- “we know who you work for”…

  15. McConnell Statement on Finance Committee Proposal

    from the Office of Senator Mitch McConnell

    Tuesday, October 13, 2009

    ‘The fact is, this proposal will never come before the Senate’

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell made the following statement Tuesday regarding the Finance Committee vote on partisan health care reform:

    “Sen. Snowe called me this morning to let me know that while she continues to have serious, substantive policy reservations with this proposal, she wanted to keep the process moving. I share her concerns about the direction of this bill once it leaves the committee, and her call for transparency before we vote to proceed to any bill on the floor.

    “The fact is, this proposal will never come before the Senate. But what we do know is that the bill written behind closed doors here in the Capitol will be another 1,000-page, trillion-dollar Washington takeover. We know it will slash a half-trillion dollars from seniors’ Medicare, add new taxes and raise premiums. That’s not reform.”

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  16. I live in Boca and for years actually liked Wexler as he was a big defender of Bill Clinton during the impeachment hearings. Looking back, he was on TV almost every night and perhaps it was more of a self-promoting gig rather than actually caring what happened to President Clinton. Wexler, for some unknown reason to me, supported Obama before almost any other Jewish politician, and supported him very effectively going from condo to condo in our very Jewish district. He was and still is beloved by these old time Jewish democrats who think of him as their own “Jewish son”. I wrote to him during the primary and got he standard bullshit about Obama being pro Israel, and I wrote to him more recently about Obama’s anti-Israeli stance, and received no response. Now I understand he could give a shit about his constituents. He probably got a high paying job fro some obstensibly pro-Israeli middle eastern group-you know, the type of pro Israeliu group that is anythig but,,,I guess we will find oiut more tommorrow as he retuns to Boca from his residence in Maryland…the guy turned out to be a total faker and Obama ass kisser.

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    Robert Wexler to resign from Congress
    > Posted by Anthony Man on October 13, 2009 04:48 PM

    Update:

    U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler, who represents Broward and Palm Beach counties, plans to resign from Congress.

    Wexler plans to meet with reporters Wednesday morning in Boca Raton to detail his next move. A Democratic source with knowledge of Wexler’s plans said the seven-term congressman is likely to take a public policy job that deals with the Middle East. The job does not involve working for the Obama administration and does not involve lobbying.

    Democrats expressed admiration for their longtime political colleague — and began handicapping who among their ranks might run. Republicans were critical of the Democratic congressman.

    The district is especially enticing for Democrats because the party holds an overhwhelming edge in registered voters. Most of the district lies in Palm Beach County, giving someone with that home base an edge in what will certainly be a Democratic primary.

    “This is a very safe Democratic seat. The Republicans have either mounted jsut a token opposition to Wexler’s re-election or he’s run unopposed. Even Republicans realize this is just a safe Democratic seat,” said Robert Watson, a political scientist and director of American studies at Lynn University in Boca Raton.

    “I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve got 10 people [Tuesday] night invesigating it,” said state Sen. Jeremy Ring, D-Parkland. “This could be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.”

    Ring and state Sen. Ted Deutch, D-Boca Raton, are the two potential replacements mentioned Tuesday by Watson and several Democrats.

    Another possible candidate is Broward Mayor Stacy Ritter.
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  17. Hillary Was Being Diplomatic
    By Steve Kornacki

    The takeaway from Hillary Clinton’s “Today Show” interview this week, at least to judge by the media’s coverage of it, was the secretary of state’s emphatic-seeming statement that “no, no, no,” she won’t run for president again.

    “This is a great job,” Mrs. Clinton said. “It is a 24/7 job, and I’m looking forward to retirement at some point.”

    But the more meaningful words from the broadcast actually came from “Today” host Meredith Vieira, who said after the segment aired: “Check her in a few more years, though, on that running for president. We’ll see.”

    Ms. Vieira’s skepticism (and that of any similar-minded viewer) is well-grounded—and not just because Mrs. Clinton began her response with out-of-context laughter, generally a signal that whatever follows will be complete hooey.

    No matter what she says right now, there really is every reason to suspect that Mrs. Clinton will end up running for president again—in 2016, when the Democratic nomination will be wide open.

    Try to take the long view on this one. Yes, Barack Obama’s popularity has dropped off from the ridiculous levels of January and February, and yes, Republicans are poised to make gains—possibly significant gains—in next year’s midterm elections.

    But it still remains a good bet that Mr. Obama will be re-elected in 2012. The economy should be in much better shape by then—in which case the considerable personal good will that most voters have toward Mr. Obama will reassert itself. This is the same basic pattern that took Ronald Reagan on a four-year journey from a landslide election in 1980 to a humbling midterm setback in 1982 and back to another landslide victory in 1984.

    Politically, the question then would be which Democrat is in line to assume to Obama mantle for 2016. Ordinarily, this would be the loyal vice president—the path that George H.W. Bush and Al Gore followed to their parties’ presidential nominations. But it’s not so clear-cut in this administration, since Joe Biden will be 73 when ’16 rolls around—and 74 on Inauguration Day in 2017.

    Mr. Biden is intent on keeping his options open. His spokesman earlier this year made it clear that he was reserving the right to run, and not ruling it out ahead of time like Dick Cheney did. But unlike Mr. Bush and Mr. Gore, he is not seeking to milk the vice presidency for its long-term political benefits.

    Instead, he’s been happy to immerse himself in weighty internal debates, especially over foreign policy. If he were to run for the Democratic nomination in ’16, he’d be formidable—but nothing like the odds-on favorite that Mr. Gore was in 2000.

    In fact, Mrs. Clinton is actually better positioned to assume the next-in-line role. Hers was no ordinary primary campaign last year; she accumulated nearly 20 million votes (nearly doubling her husband’s total when he won—in a rout—the 1992 nomination) and won numerous primaries and caucuses. Her defeat was an upset, but it wasn’t the kind of reputation-killer that, say, Rudy Giuliani’s one-delegate performance on the G.O.P. side was.

    More than a year later, Mrs. Clinton remains the second-biggest name in Democratic politics, behind only Mr. Obama. No one else—not even Mr. Biden—is even close. And, so far at least, her work as secretary of state has only enhanced her stature. As she jets from one corner of the world to another (and makes headlines at every stop), Americans have gotten a chance to see her essentially acting like a president—a leader on the world stage, not just another senator making pointless floor speeches and casting procedural votes.

    And by all accounts, her relationship with Mr. Obama, defined by mutual mistrust and scorn during and immediately after their campaign, is now cooperative and even friendly. It helps that she has done nothing as secretary of state to arouse suspicions of grand-standing and political posturing at Mr. Obama’s expense. She’s been the team player that many of Mr. Obama’s supporters doubted she’d ever be. In terms of ’16, this has earned her many new potential friends—and cost her none of those she already had.

    It’s hard to believe that someone with Mrs. Clinton’s demonstrated ambition—nearly a decade of meticulous preparation preceded her White House bid—would just thumb her nose at a second chance at the prize she most covets, especially when (at least this far out) the odds are in her favor.

    Steve Kornacki can be reached via email at steve.kornacki@observer.com.

  18. JBStonesfan…

    …I have had similiar feelings as you to Bob Wexler…that is what I meant about ‘another one with promise goes downhill’ I also liked him so much when he defended Bill Clinton during the impeachment days…that kind of added to the big disappointment I had in him when he went for O so soon and often sounded like he was belittling Hill and Bill…and he was a disgrace – a disgrace – when it came to counting Florida’s votes and then at that delegate fiasco DNC meeting…

    I know he is beloved by the Florida Jewish community…however I think you may be correct that all that support of BC may have been part of Wexler’s attempt to make a name for himself…he sure was loud enough…

    I would bet he is moving on to some cushy, high paying, insider deal…

    Stacy Ritter sounds like she has issues these days and maybe some conflicts of interests that could surface…at least from what’s in the news these days and the FBI crackdown on Broward crooks…Bob Norman just had an article in New Times that cast some shadows…

    blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/10/sheila_alu_went_federal.php

    (geesh, Broward gives Chicago a run for its money…corruption everywhere!)

  19. “I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve got 10 people [Tuesday] night invesigating it,” said state Sen. Jeremy Ring, D-Parkland. “This could be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.”
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    Exactly what needs to stop, automatic wins…term limits….

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Hillary Was Being Diplomatic
    By Steve Kornacki

    another slimeball…

  20. I do not care for Ritter at all. Ted Deutch would be my pick as he attended the fund raiser for Hillary down her with Bill Clinton and was very passionate at that time in his support for her…..

  21. The job does not involve working for the Obama administration and does not involve lobbying

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    He is going to work for “The Center for Progress”, where all the Van Jones’s goes to work when Obama can’t hide them anymore and must pay them back for a job. In otherwards he going to work for Soros.

  22. I thought that Steve Kornacki column was fine. I agree with him that Hillary has a real shot in 2016 if she wants it.

  23. And you can be sure she won’t make the same personnel mistakes in 2016 (hiring Patti Solis-Doyle and Mark Penn) that she did in 2008. She’d be an unbelievably formidable candidate.

  24. Wexler is a disgrace and if he is going to work for Soros, this just confirms and explains his eager and early support for the fraudulent -in -chief.

  25. Some gems from Redstate, nite all
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    Rick Sanchez of CNN Ran Over a Man Then Fled the Scene. Two Hours Later, Sanchez Was Still Drunk.

    Tuesday, October 13th at 8:34PM EDT

    Here is what is phony.

    Rick Sanchez quoted Rush Limbaugh on CNN and the quote was fabricated. The racially insensitive quote attributed to Limbaugh was made up on the internet and not uttered by Rush.

    Sanchez has refused to apologize for using the quote in a hit job on Limbaugh designed to destroy Limbaugh’s bid for the St. Louis Rams.

    Here is what is real.

    Rick Sanchez ran over a man and left the guy for dead.

    It was December 10, 1990. Sanchez was leaving a Miami Dolphins game when he ran over a man. Sanchez fled the scene for two hours.

    Finally, Sanchez came back. Two hours after the incident, Sanchez was still drunk — well above the legal limit. But Sanchez was a well known Miami reporter with lots of friends on the police force. He was never charged with the hit and run. He just pled no contest to DUI.

    The man Sanchez hit and ran away from? He died in 1995, paralyzed and in a nursing home.

    This is the guy who decided to take to television this week and moralize against Rush.
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    When Nuts Collide: ACORN Power Struggle in New Orleans

    Tuesday, October 13th at 11:30AM EDT

    Over the weekend, an unpaid ACORN volunteer in New Orleans expressed her desire to see a little more evidence of the Hope’n’Change she voted for when President Obama visits the city, however briefly, on Thursday.

    Since it’s hard to fire an unpaid volunteer, the Big Wigs from HQ showed up on Tuesday and sacked Beth Butler, longtime executive director of Louisiana ACORN.

    But there might be more to the story. Pass the popcorn.

    On one hand, there’s the official line:

    As it happens, ACORN officials agree with Butler that her termination was not carried out only as retribution for the Obama critique. Rather, according to an ACORN official who would speak only on background, the episode was “reflective of a lack of accountability to process” on Butler’s part.

    Butler had repeatedly breached ACORN protocol, and this was the most recent instance, he said.

    Butler says it’s about the control of some assets:

    Butler, who has worked for ACORN for 37 years, said her real sin in the eyes of the national organization’s leaders was a failure to concede (sic) to their demands. In particular, she said, she had led resistance to a demand to turn over the land trust, called the ACORN Community Land Association of Louisiana, to the national group.

    “We were told by national ACORN that we had to give it up to them, ” she said. “We got e-mails threatening our jobs because we didn’t push the land trust people to hand over property and money to the New York people who took over ACORN.”

    Butler passed along an e-mail message from Lewis calling Butler’s behavior regarding the land trust “unacceptable.”

    The national entity is also making a play for roughly $90,000 in hurricane relief money controlled by the local group, Butler said.

    More likely, the move on the part of the national organization is an attempt to purge the unpleasant memory of Wade Rathke & the $1 million (at least) that his brother embezzled:

    That [Breitbart video] scandal was preceded by revelations that ACORN employees had registered dozens of phony voters before the last election. And before that, it emerged that Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN’s founder, New Orleans-bred Wade Rathke, had embezzled nearly $1 million from the group. Instead of announcing he’d been caught, selected group leaders allowed him to quietly repay the money over a period of years.

    The last scandal resulted in the ouster of Wade Rathke, who also happens to be the longtime companion of Butler. The two have lived together for decades and raised two children together, Butler said.

    The moral? Never trust a Community Organizer.
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    Obama Adviser Loves Sharia
    by Robert Spencer

    10/13/2009

    Dalia Mogahed, Barack Obama’s adviser on Muslim affairs, appeared on British television last week, where she said: “Sharia is not well understood and Islam as a faith is not well understood.” How have we misunderstood Islamic law? We have associated it with “maximum criminal punishments” and “laws that… to many people seem unequal to women.” The Western view of Sharia was “oversimplified,” said Barack Obama’s adviser on Muslim affairs; most Muslim women worldwide, she said, associate it with “gender justice.”

    Here’s some gender justice straight out of the Koran, the Islamic holy book that forms the basis of Sharia. As I explain in my book The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran, the Koran declares that a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man: “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her” (2:282). It rules that a son’s inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: “Allah (thus) directs you as regards your children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females” (4:11).

    Worst of all, the Koran tells husbands to beat their disobedient wives, saying that “men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other,” and that therefore “good women are the obedient.” And as for those who are not obedient, the Koran directs men to give them a warning, send them to a separate bed, and “beat them” (4:34). It also allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures “shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” (65:4).

    These are not “cherry-picked” verses taken “out of context.” All these stipulations — about testimony, inheritance, wife-beating, marriage and divorce — remain part of Sharia to this day. So does the law that a wife must not refuse sex to her husband, no matter where or when he makes the demand. This is based on a saying of the Islamic prophet Muhammad: “If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relations] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.” And another: “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle.”

    Gender justice. And that’s not all. Mogahed, a member of the President’s Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, made her defense of Sharia on a TV show hosted by a member of Hizb-ut-Tahrir. This is an international organization that is banned as a terrorist group in many nations, and which is openly dedicated to the worldwide imposition of Sharia and the destruction of all governments that are constituted according to any other political philosophy — including Constitutional republics that do not establish a state religion.
    On the show with Mogahed were two Hizb-ut-Tahrir who repeatedly attacked “man-made law” and the “lethal cocktail of liberty and capitalism” one encounters in Western societies. They said Sharia should be “the source of legislation.” Not “a” source. “The” source.

    Mogahed, for her part, offered no contradiction to any of this. Should an adviser to the President of the United States really have given her sanction to such a group? Apparently she has no problem with its goal, since instead of defending the American system of government, she maintained that Sharia was popular among Muslim women: “I think the reason so many women support Sharia is because they have a very different understanding of sharia than the common perception in Western media.”

    On the same show, Dalia Mogahed described her job in the Obama administration as involving efforts “to convey…to the President and other public officials what it is Muslims want.” What Muslims want. Not what America might want from Muslims — i.e., a recognition of the ways in which Sharia contradicts the Constitution regarding the equality of all people before the law, and a forthright rejection of those elements of Sharia. No one, Muslim or non-Muslim, seems concerned about any challenge to those provisions from the adherents of Sharia. Perhaps they should listen more closely to Dalia Mogahed.

  26. Paula Says:

    October 13th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    ********************

    He slimed all over her. Extrememly condesending

  27. I get so tired of the media trying to spin something from nothing about the Clintons. They haven’t a clue what Hillary’s plans are and yet they will try to create fictitious scenarios from her every phrase, look, and body language. And all so they can reel her in for being disrespectful to their messiah.

    These imagined yes she will no she won’t articles are borderline schizophrenic in my opinion.

  28. I am going to bed but found this UK Telegram,…only ten Isay? I can think of a billion more but I think i will make a flyer out of this as I did during the primaries
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    Barack Obama’s Top 10 unfulfilled pledges
    Less than nine months into his four-year term of office, President Barack Obama’s record is already one of abandoned promises, sidelined issues and lack of action.

    Analysis by Toby Harnden in Washington
    Published: 7:53PM BST 12 Oct 2009

    Pomises broken or stalled by Mr Obama include closing down Guantanamo Bay and healthcare reforms Photo: GETTY
    PolitiFact, a political accountability project run by Florida’s St Petersburg Times, has formulated an “Obamameter” gauge that registers seven broken promises, a dozen stalled initiatives and 117 pet projects still “in the works”.

    Here is the top 10 list of most glaring examples of Mr Obama falling short in key areas he trumpeted during his campaign.

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    Obama to abandon bipartisan health reform1.PROMISE BROKEN. Mr Obama said he would “not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days”. But the “sunlight before signing” promise has already fallen by the wayside with Mr Obama signing three major bills without public scrutiny.

    2.PROMISE BROKEN. Mr Obama repeatedly said he would negotiate health care reform in televised sessions broadcast on C-SPAN, the public service network. Instead, he his approach has been no different from his predecessors, holding talks behind closed doors at the White House and Congress.

    3.PROMISE BROKEN. Mr Obama solemnly pledged that “no political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years”. In practice, Mr Obama has granted several waivers to this rule, allowing lobbyists to serve in the top reaches of his administration.

    4.PROMISE BROKEN. Mr Obama said he would end income tax for the elderly making less than $50,000 per year, thereby eliminating taxes for seven million of them. This has not been part of his economic stimulus bill, his first budget outline or any legislation proposed by the White House.

    5.PROMISE STALLED. On taking office, Mr Obama announced with great fanfare that the Guantanamo Bay prison camp would be closed within a year of his inauguration on January 20th. Defence officials now concede that this self-imposed deadline will not be met.

    6.PROMISE SIDELINED. Mr Obama promised to end the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy that prohibits openly gay personnel from serving in the United States armed forces. Despite reiterating the pledge this weekend, Mr Obama shows no signs of taking concrete action on the issue.

    7.PROMISE BROKEN. Mr Obama said that in 2009 and 2010 “existing businesses will receive a $3,000 refundable tax credit for each additional full-time employee hired”. Democrats on Capitol Hill opposed this and Mr Obama has quietly abandoned the proposal, omitting it from his list of requirements for draft legislation.

    8.PROMISE BROKEN. During the campaign, Mr Obama promised that “as President I will recognise the Armenian genocide” carried out by the Ottoman Empire after 1915. Once in office, he travelled to Turkey and made no mention of genocide. In a statement in April on the memorial day for the genocide he spoke of the “heavy weight” of history and the “terrible events ” of the period but failed the use the g-word.

    9.PROMISE SIDELINED. As a candidate, Mr Obama highlighted his support for abortion rights, stating he would back this up “by passing the Freedom of Choice Act as president”. At a press conference marking his first 100 days, Mr Obama said this was “not my highest legislative priority” and that it was important to “focus on those areas that we can agree on”.

    10. PROMISE SIDELINED. Mr Obama promised to end warrantless wiretaps on the domestic communications of Americans and to “update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to provide greater oversight and accountability”. So far, he has taken no action.

  29. the Kornacki article is realistic…there is no way Hillary can exhibit any personal ‘ambition’ right now…she is finessing everything just right…this week all kinds of articles, photos and clips of her with powerful world leaders everywhere…and often she is the only woman in the room full of male leaders…she is like a ‘Jane’ Bond with racing limos to seal the deals…strong pictures and images for her ‘portfolio’…our Hillary knows what she is doing…

    btw…JB…Bob Norman has a whole series of articles following the corrupt trails and the FBI sting and outreaching tentacles down here…I used to read him when I first relocated and then lost touch…he is one of the better investigative reporters still actually ‘investigating’…

  30. gonzotx Says:

    October 13th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    ********************************

    Sanchez is a creep…a friend of mine used to co-host a tv talk show with him in south florida…he had issues then…i cannot believe he has a steady job on CNN…he is awful on TV…I guess they want him as their Latin rep but he is unbearable to watch…CNN has really sunk to unwatchable lows…

  31. Hermes Diaz, a smart person, writes to Camile Paglia:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/10/14/teaparty/index.html

    Dear Camille,

    I am amazed at the easy pass you still give the Obama administration. You continue to excuse his blunders and misses as the result of a lack of experience and bad advisors.

    Many of Obama’s policies have been a scary continuation of the worst ideas of the last year of the Bush administration, while undoing some of the few things they got right.

    You have been hitting that note about the need to shake up his staff for quite a while. Yet isn’t it true that people tend to surround themselves with like minds? You said recently that “I am hopeful that he will rid himself soon of these simplistic anti-American clichés.” Has it occurred to you that maybe that is just who he is and the people he surrounds himself with are just a reflection of himself?

    I see Obama and his presidency as the crowning of the ideas of that northeastern liberal aristocracy you so much criticize. He appears to me as a cliché of all their pathologies, and yet you seem infatuated with him. You continually praise his speech and demeanor while to me it seems like a mask for his lack of substance. I find him to be a man of an oversized ego, with a messianic complex and a cult-like following, which would not be so scary if he didn’t wear the media as his own personal lap dog.

    As a person born and raised in Latin America who studies history as a hobby, I can’t help but see President Obama as the closest thing we have had in this country to the long line of populist leaders who have been the scourge of Latin America for decades and sent many of us here into exile. He is not a Chavez-like figure who uses vulgarity and threats as a weapon but a more sophisticated version of a young Peron.

    Hermes Diaz

  32. At this point I wouldn’t blame Hill in the least if she served out her time as SOS and retired to work on something smaller & close to her heart.

    What kind of institution is the presidency nowadays anyway, when the corporations control everyone and everything?

    Just look at Health Care, where 2/3 of the people want something and not only can’t get it, but will get something else entirely, something that they DON’T want.

  33. We have been heading for a total corporate state since Nixon. We hired the dimocrats to change that and SOros/Kissinger perputrated the greates hoax of the century. He is no more for the people that Reagan, Bush I & II or Nixon.

  34. This is downright criminal and should be prosecuted!

    Smosska’s ACORN Smoke Screen

    By Warner Todd Huston Monday, October 12, 2009
    This is an update on a story about a company in South Carolina named Smosska that I covered back in July. At this point, it seems beyond question that Smosska is a sham organization that was set up by ACORN in order to hide “community activism” behind a false front in South Carolina.

    Back in July I reported on a corporation that swept into Florence, South Carolina promising all sorts of new jobs with wonderful new benefits. Naturally none of these jobs have materialized. Looking into this Smosska, Corp. proves that the company is a sham group formed to serve the needs of the criminal ACORN organization.

    Well, for an update, it looks like this sham company is getting served with an eviction notice.

    Holcombe Land Development officials say they filed eviction papers against the Smosska company on September 23.

    HLD officials tell News 13 that they filed the eviction papers after failing to receive rent payments from Smosska. They say they received a prorated payment on July 10, when the company moved in to the the office. They also received a bad check for August rent on August 25. HLD officials say that Smosska did not make any other rent payments.

    Of course, this didn’t stop this sham group from charging $40 to each person that thought they were applying for a job with Smosska. This fee was supposedly for an “aptitude test” that the applicants took in order to qualify for these non-existent jobs.

    But it isn’t just this “fee” that Smosska’s representatives ripped off these poor, unsuspecting applicants for that is troubling here. Smosska also has a shady past and some troubling connections. As I wrote in July:

    The links between Smosska and the troubled community group weren’t openly admitted, to be sure. The Florence Better Business Bureau looked into the company after questions were raised about its odd characteristics. The BBB found that Smosska is being backed by a group called Organizers for America, which itself is a subsidiary of the National Organizers Alliance, which itself is affiliated with ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, the nationally troubled group associated with massive voter fraud, financial irregularities. Of course, all were heavy Obama campaign backers.

    Even the state and county employment agencies cannot find any information out about this shadowy corporation and they’ve stopped any of their further applicants from going to Smosska to apply.

    In any case, it is looking like I was right before. This is a sham organization that was an attempt by ACORN to set up another false front behind which they could do their business, whatever that may be. This eviction notice makes that assessment seem more and more correct.

  35. Found this on a site from a commentator, don’t know if its true. I wonder if there’s a way to check it out??

    Rockefeller said this in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.” PNAC said something similar right before 9/11.

    .

  36. Has anyone seen this?

    Orly Request for Notice that Individual Damages not Required in Public Sector Mail&Wire Corruption
    Defend Our Freedoms Foundation | Oct. 11.2009 | Dr. Orly Taitz

    Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:32:18 PM by Elderberry

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA Notice of Electronic Filing The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 10/11/2009 at 12:57 PM PDT and filed on 10/11/2009

    Come now the Plaintiffs with this Request for Judicial Notice that Individual Damages are not required in public sector mail & wire fraud relating to political corruption under 18 U.S.C. §1346, together with notice of filing expanded report by Susan Daniels.

    During this Court’s hearing on October 5, 2009, the Court searchingly examined counsel for the Plaintiffs and Defendants regarding the sole threshold question of “standing.” Plaintiffs’ provided arguments of Flast v. Cohen taxpayer standing or else 9th Amendment reserved rights to Petition for Redress of Grievances concerning a clear violation of the Constitution’s clearly demarcated qualifications for the Presidency, as well as Oath taker standing per Allen v Board of Education and USA v Clark . l

    Plaintiffs have, in the course of their investigations during the past year, accumulated a substantial amount of evidence concerning the Mr. Obama’s fraudulent manipulation of his own identity, and the legal identity of others. To this end Plaintiffs have previously submitted the Affidavit and Independent Investigative Report of Former Scotland Yard Inspector Neal Sankey and now submit the expanded Report of Ohio Private Investigator Susan Daniels.

    These two private investigation reports, although slightly duplicative, show beyond reasonable doubt a pattern of manipulation of Barack Hussein Obama’s identity, employment, and residence information. The use of a multitude of social security numbers alone is indicative that Mr. Obama appears to have committed a substantial number of felony violations, including but not limited to violations of 42 U.S.C. §408(a)(7)(B). which shows dishonest political advantage during 2008 election.

    Plaintiffs submit again that “the American People Reserve the Right to know”. Furthermore, the examination and decipherment of the trail of deception so casually left by this successful candidate will (1) lead ultimately to discovery of the truth about his origins and citizenship, (2) reveal the nature of the scheme to defraud by which this Mr. Barack Hussein Obama became President, and (3) show the degree and nature of the collusion of other people and parties in the scheme of defraud leading to his election, including but not limited to the other Defendants.

    The Plaintiffs have repeatedly alleged that the election of 2008 was procured by fraud. Acquisition of high public office by and through implementation of a scheme to defraud regarding material facts regarding a candidate’s qualifications and identity is a species of public sector fraud. Such a scheme to defraud is actionable by private parties under 18 U.S.C. §1346, in that each instance of the use of interstate wires or mail delivery facilities counts as an individual predicate act under Civil R.I.C.O., 18 U.S.C. §§1961, 1962(a)-(d), and 1964(c).

    Plaintiffs request the Court to take note that the United States Congress’ express purpose in enacting 18 U.S.C. §1346 was to ensure that corruption by both (even paired) public and private sector defendants (such as Defendants Barack and Michelle Obama were from the Illinois Senatorial Election 2004-up-through January 20, 2009 individualized damages were not required to obtain convictions under 18 U.S.C. §1346.

    It logically follows that Civil RICO actions relating to public and private sector corruption which would utilize predicate acts of criminal violations of 18 U.S.C. §1346 could likewise be brought without proof of individualized damages or “standing” in the civil sense.

    Plaintiffs accordingly submit that the principles of prosecutions of public corruption based on 18 U.S.C. §1346 be applied to evaluate the standing of the Plaintiffs in the present above-entitled-and-numbered case Barnett v. Obama.

    WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs request that this Honorable Court take Judicial Notice of the doctrine of the people’s intangible right to honest services based on 18 U.S.C. §1346, and consider the significance for the standing of the people to bring suit under Civil RICO (18 U.S.C. §1964(c)), that the criminal predicate acts for RICO which may be substantiated under this title do not require specific personalized injury to business or property interests.

    Accordingly, the people of the United States may sue for Civil RICO for the fraudulent denial of their intangible right to honest services without showing individualized specific injury, and this case should be allowed to go forward, albeit with Plaintiffs’ Second Amended Complaint allowed to be filed, and considered as a fundamental (complementary) element of citizen standing. Respectfully submitted, Sunday, October 11, 2009

  37. Yo.

    I’m back, just been away for a week in London and other places, hope everything is fine, will catch up with you all later this week.

  38. Here is more on the dollar from yesterday, we will see what happens today.

    Last Updated: 3:16 AM, October 13, 2009

    Posted: 1:44 AM, October 13, 2009

    Ben Bernanke’s dollar crisis went into a wider mode yesterday as the greenback was shockingly upstaged by the euro and yen, both of which can lay claim to the world title as the currency favored by central banks as their reserve currency.

    Over the last three months, banks put 63 percent of their new cash into euros and yen — not the greenbacks — a nearly complete reversal of the dollar’s onetime dominance for reserves, according to Barclays Capital. The dollar’s share of new cash in the central banks was down to 37 percent — compared with two-thirds a decade ago.

    Currently, dollars account for about 62 percent of the currency reserve at central banks — the lowest on record, said the International Monetary Fund.

    Bernanke could go down in economic history as the man who killed the greenback on the operating table.

    After printing up trillions of new dollars and new bonds to stimulate the US economy, the Federal Reserve chief is now boxed into a corner battling two separate monsters that could devour the economy — ravenous inflation on one hand, and a perilous recession on the other.

    “He’s in a crisis worse than the meltdown ever was,” said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. “I fear that he could be the Fed chairman who brought down the whole thing.”

    Investors and central banks are snubbing dollars because the greenback is kept too weak by zero interest rates and a flood of greenbacks in the global economy.

    They grumble that they’ve loaned the US record amounts to cover its mounting debt, but are getting paid back by a currency that’s worth 10 percent less in the past three months alone. In a decade, it’s down nearly one-third.

    Yesterday, the dollar had a mixed performance, falling slightly against the British pound to $1.5801 from $1.5846 Friday, but rising against the euro to $1.4779 from $1.4709 and against the yen to 89.85 yen from 89.78.

    Economists believe the market rebellion against the dollar will spread until Bernanke starts raising interest rates from around zero to the high single digits, and pulls back the flood of currency spewed from US printing presses.

    “That’s a cure, but it’s also going to stifle any US economic growth,” said Schiff. “The economy is addicted to the cheap interest and liquidity.”

    Economists warn that a jump in rates will clobber stocks and cripple the already stalled housing market.

    “Bernanke’s other choice is to keep rates at zero, print even more money and sell more debt, but we’ll see triple-digit inflation that could collapse the economy as we know it.

    “The stimulus is what’s toxic — we’re poisoning ourselves and the global economy with it.”

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    Ben Bernanke’s dollar crisis went into a wider mode yesterday as the greenback was shockingly upstaged by the euro and yen, both of which can lay claim to the world title as the currency favored by central banks as their reserve currency.

    Over the last three months, banks put 63 percent of their new cash into euros and yen — not the greenbacks — a nearly complete reversal of the dollar’s onetime dominance for reserves, according to Barclays Capital. The dollar’s share of new cash in the central banks was down to 37 percent — compared with two-thirds a decade ago.

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    Fed boss Ben Bernanke may be forced to raise rates in order to restore faith in the dollar — and help bring the euro and the yen back to earth.
    Currently, dollars account for about 62 percent of the currency reserve at central banks — the lowest on record, said the International Monetary Fund.

    Bernanke could go down in economic history as the man who killed the greenback on the operating table.

    After printing up trillions of new dollars and new bonds to stimulate the US economy, the Federal Reserve chief is now boxed into a corner battling two separate monsters that could devour the economy — ravenous inflation on one hand, and a perilous recession on the other.

    “He’s in a crisis worse than the meltdown ever was,” said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. “I fear that he could be the Fed chairman who brought down the whole thing.”

    Investors and central banks are snubbing dollars because the greenback is kept too weak by zero interest rates and a flood of greenbacks in the global economy.

    They grumble that they’ve loaned the US record amounts to cover its mounting debt, but are getting paid back by a currency that’s worth 10 percent less in the past three months alone. In a decade, it’s down nearly one-third.

    Yesterday, the dollar had a mixed performance, falling slightly against the British pound to $1.5801 from $1.5846 Friday, but rising against the euro to $1.4779 from $1.4709 and against the yen to 89.85 yen from 89.78.

    Economists believe the market rebellion against the dollar will spread until Bernanke starts raising interest rates from around zero to the high single digits, and pulls back the flood of currency spewed from US printing presses.

    “That’s a cure, but it’s also going to stifle any US economic growth,” said Schiff. “The economy is addicted to the cheap interest and liquidity.”

    Economists warn that a jump in rates will clobber stocks and cripple the already stalled housing market.

    “Bernanke’s other choice is to keep rates at zero, print even more money and sell more debt, but we’ll see triple-digit inflation that could collapse the economy as we know it.

    “The stimulus is what’s toxic — we’re poisoning ourselves and the global economy with it.”

  39. “You continue to excuse his blunders and misses as the result of a lack of experience and bad advisors.”

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    This harkens back to hiring someone without a resume, without the necessary education and experience to do the job, to hire someone for all the lamest reasons…aka…voting in a Hollywood star wannabe to the highest position in the land.

    You get what you pay for.

  40. Here’s more crap on the dollar a la Mr. Soros..

    Fed boss Ben Bernanke may be forced to raise rates in order to restore faith in the dollar — and help bring the euro and the yen back to earth.
    Currently, dollars account for about 62 percent of the currency reserve at central banks — the lowest on record, said the International Monetary Fund.

    Bernanke could go down in economic history as the man who killed the greenback on the operating table.

    After printing up trillions of new dollars and new bonds to stimulate the US economy, the Federal Reserve chief is now boxed into a corner battling two separate monsters that could devour the economy — ravenous inflation on one hand, and a perilous recession on the other.

    “He’s in a crisis worse than the meltdown ever was,” said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. “I fear that he could be the Fed chairman who brought down the whole thing.”

    Investors and central banks are snubbing dollars because the greenback is kept too weak by zero interest rates and a flood of greenbacks in the global economy.

    They grumble that they’ve loaned the US record amounts to cover its mounting debt, but are getting paid back by a currency that’s worth 10 percent less in the past three months alone. In a decade, it’s down nearly one-third.

    Yesterday, the dollar had a mixed performance, falling slightly against the British pound to $1.5801 from $1.5846 Friday, but rising against the euro to $1.4779 from $1.4709 and against the yen to 89.85 yen from 89.78.

    Economists believe the market rebellion against the dollar will spread until Bernanke starts raising interest rates from around zero to the high single digits, and pulls back the flood of currency spewed from US printing presses.

    “That’s a cure, but it’s also going to stifle any US economic growth,” said Schiff. “The economy is addicted to the cheap interest and liquidity.”

    Economists warn that a jump in rates will clobber stocks and cripple the already stalled housing market.

    “Bernanke’s other choice is to keep rates at zero, print even more money and sell more debt, but we’ll see triple-digit inflation that could collapse the economy as we know it.

    “The stimulus is what’s toxic — we’re poisoning ourselves and the global economy with it.”

  41. I heard yesterday they are planning another stimulus, if they try that, we need something in D.C. that is larger that the last tea party. They have to quit printing money and stop more stimulus. I don’t trust that Soros and co. is not wanting this to happen.

  42. I was in London when she was there. Hillary was there and the reception for her was amazing. She sorted more crap out in 5 days than Bambi has in 9 months.

  43. Apparently RUssia will not help on sanctions on Iran, the dollar is at the lowest level in its history. Israel is threatening to bomb Iran if sanctions aren’t in place by December. There are NO jobs. Healthcare reform is garbage. North Korea is shooting of short range missiles again. The whole world is in a financial meltdown from last September’s manipulation by Soros,inc. Obama can’t decide what to do in Afganistan.

    The only thing good that has come lately is that North Korea apologized to South Korea, and I tribute that to Bill Clinton.

    Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. Surely we can get him on something.

  44. The healthcare fight yesterday was to cover the news about the dollar! That was they just said on FOx. Keep us sidetracked while we lose our dollar and our country.

  45. Thanks for the update moon.

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    confloyd,

    on my way to work in a few moments but looking forward to catching up on your posts later this morning.

  46. confloyd Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    “Apparently RUssia will not help on sanctions on Iran.”

    Russian scientists are working in Iran. Russia has a direct line to what is going on. I’m sure they don’t want to act when they know there is no danger. Then Iran would know they’re not even close to producing a nuclear weapon… right?

    ~~~~~~~~

    “Israel is threatening to bomb Iran if sanctions aren’t in place by December.”
    Israel has made contact with the Russians…

  47. “You continually praise his speech and demeanor while to me it seems like a mask for his lack of substance. I find him to be a man of an oversized ego, with a messianic complex and a cult-like following, which would not be so scary if he didn’t wear the media as his own personal lap dog.”

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    Admin, Hermes Diaz is a very insightful person.

  48. “Obama can’t decide what to do in Afganistan.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    I read yesterday, he sending 14,000 troops to Astan. Just under the media radar.

    I watched the Frontline Trailer last week. The most ridiculous plans are in place for our troops deployed there. Their exposure to danger is unbelievable.

  49. Here ya go confloyd… the important thing is “we” don’t go into meltdown mode…full story from the Jerusalem Post. Just found it at Drudge

    Why Russia is not afraid of an Iranian bomb

    US President Barack Obama’s recent decision to cancel the deployment of an anti-missile defense (AMD) system in Eastern Europe was met with approval by the Russian authorities. In exchange, speaking at the recent G-20 summit in Pittsburgh last month, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev changed his position regarding sanctions against Iran.

    While Russia had, until recently, vetoed UN Security Council resolutions against the Iranian nuclear program, Medvedev suddenly hardened his rhetoric, mentioning sanctions as a possible course of action. Either way, it is quite clear that Russia, which borders Iran on the Caspian Sea, does not fear the emergence of its new nuclear neighbor and is even actively aiding the construction of the nuclear station in Iran. Why? The reasons are manifold.

    RUSSIA HAS traditionally maintained good sources of information within Iran. Its specialists, who are closely involved in the construction of the nuclear site, probably have information that is unknown to the rest of the world. For example, these sources may indicate that Iran is still rather far from creating the bomb, or perhaps they believe they can control the process.

    Similarly, Russia’s strategic and tactical interests cannot be ignored. Russia is probably unhappy with nuclear weapons being positioned so close to its own territory, yet seems sure that these weapons won’t pose a threat to its sovereignty. This is because Russia stands to benefit greatly from Iran’s opposition vis-a-vis the United States and the United Nations Security Council, for two reasons: First, Iran is primarily a threat to Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. This will increase regional tensions and strengthen Russia’s position there. Good relations with Iran could position Russia as a mediator between these countries and the Islamic republic. For example, the recent cancellation of the deal to sell Iran anti-aircraft complexes was used to leverage Russia-Israel relations.

    h… w… jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255204781388&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  50. “At this point, it seems beyond question that Smosska is a sham organization that was set up by ACORN in order to hide “community activism” behind a false front in South Carolina.”

    ———————–

    confloyd,

    The real question is who knew about it in the White House, how many more of these “sham” setups are out there, and what will happen now that it is out in the open.

  51. Mrs. Smith,

    Those 13,000 extra troops are labeled “support troops” but will still be in the thick of it providing air support, medical relief, etc. The reason bambi supported this is because it won’t be his fault if something happens to them. This extra manpower was mandated during Bush’s tenure but just didn’t get done. So I think he feels that the public won’t pummel him for risking more lives over this latest action. Kept it really hush hush like the weasel he is.

  52. I never expected a country that is actually babysitting and nurturing Iran with technical and arms assistance (namely Russia) to fall into line. When has the western world been able to trust anything coming from a country swollen with one of the bloodiest histories in the world? As jbstonesfan mentioned yesterday, their record for torturing Jews is despicable. I would add to that their record of murder in the Russian Ukraine, i.e. massacres is also a black mark. Helping a country that wants Israel and the Jews wiped off the planet isn’t surprising.

    And here we have this potus giving Russia everything but the kitchen sink. This is going to come back and bite obama in the ass big time.

  53. She is loved and respected everywhere she goes…

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    Hillary Clinton in visit to Queen’s

    By Lauren Mulvenny
    Wednesday, 14 October 2009

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was welcomed to Queen’s University by vice-chancellor Peter Gregson. US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was at Queen’s University earlier this week as part of a one-day visit to Northern Ireland.
    Her appearance at the local university, on Monday, October 12, was the third out of four stops on a trip that also saw her visit Stormont Castle, Parliament Buildings and the newly refurbished City Hall.

    As Mrs Clinton’s fifth visit to Queen’s — and her first as Secretary of State — it was a relatively low-key affair as students, looking puzzled at the increased security presence, seemed unaware of the imminent arrival of America’s top diplomat.

    But by the time she arrived — over an hour behind schedule — word had spread and a crowd gathered at the gates, waving camera phones frantically as the Secretary of State’s cavalcade sped past.

    Once inside, Mrs Clinton held a private one-hour meeting with around 40 US and Northern Ireland business leaders, but there was no major US investment announcement as expected.

    However, addressing a gathering of Queen’s students and staff, along with waiting journalists, she did reveal that Boston-based firm NaviNet, a leading US healthcare communications network, is to set up a software research and design centre in Belfast.

    Reiterating US commitment to Northern Ireland, Mrs Clinton also announced details of a working group that will see American business experts work with their counterparts in Northern Ireland. Led by Declan Kelly, special economic envoy, she said the group “will help Declan develop strategies that can be pursued that will be mutually beneficial and will contribute to the recovery of the global economy”.

    During her talk Mrs Clinton also praised “the vitality and dynamism” of the Northern Ireland business sector.

    belfasttelegraph.co.uk/community-telegraph/south-belfast/news/hillary-clinton-in-visit-to-queenrsquos-14530768.html

  54. From an interview that will be broadcast tonight: Hillary on Nightline

    Clinton Nears Decision on U.S. Strategy in Afghanistan
    America’s Top Diplomat Tells ‘Nightline’: ‘Not Every Taliban Is al Qaeda’

    By CYNTHIA MCFADDEN and AMMU KANNAMPILLY
    Oct. 14, 2009 —

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is close to formulating a U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, she said today in an exclusive interview with ABC News’ “Nightline.” Although she refused to go public with what she believes is the best course of action for the United States in Afghanistan, a somber Clinton said she “will be prepared to offer the president my best advice when he asks for it.”

    In response to reports that she took a more hawkish position on the war than that of President Obama’s other advisers, she said, “I’m not going to comment on where I’m leaning, where anybody else is leaning, I think I owe the president my best advice and I think I’ll leave it at that.”

    Clinton also took pains to defend beleaguered Afghan President Hamid Karzai and took time to clarify his claim in an interview on “Good Morning America” Tuesday that al Qaeda has “no base in Afghanistan, the war against terrorism is not in Afghanistan villages, it is not in the Afghan countryside.” “There’s no doubt,” Clinton said, that the Taliban in Afghanistan “fund extremists.” But, she added, what Karzai “was trying to get at, which is also our analysis, is there are people who are Taliban, who are fighting because they get paid to fight. They have no other way of making a living, you’ve got a very poor population in general, they get paid more to be in the Taliban than to be a police officer.

    “Another is there are all kinds of internal conflicts in Afghanistan between certain tribal groups or ethnic groups who find it opportunistic to ally with the Taliban. They’re very conservative, but they’re not a direct threat to us.”

    Part of the problem, Clinton said, was “to sort out who is the real enemy. Our goal is to disrupt, dismantle, defeat al Qaeda and its extremist allies. But not every Taliban is al Qaeda.” But she acknowledged that the irregularities in the Afghan elections had made the timing of any decision on sending more U.S. troops to Afghanistan more challenging.

    Her words diverged sharply from Karzai’s take on the controversial elections, which he described as “good and fair and worthy of praise.”

    Clinton: I Was ‘Resistant to the Idea’ of Being Secretary of State

    Earlier this week, Clinton surprised many people when she ruled out running for president again. She reiterated today her refusal to run, saying, “I gave it all I had,” adding that she was looking forward to taking some time off after her stint as secretary of state.

    Recalling the aftermath of the election, Clinton, for the first time, shared the details of how she was offered and later accepted the position of U.S. secretary of state.

    “It was about five to six days after the election, and my husband and I were out for a walk, actually, in a sort of reserve near where we live in New York. And he had his cell phone in his pocket, [and] it started ringing in the middle of this big nature reserve. And, instead of turning it off, he answered it and it was President-elect Obama wanting to talk to him about some people he was considering for positions, and he said I’d like to also talk to Hillary at some point.”

    At the time, she thought Obama was calling to ask her for her opinion of other people he wished to hire, saying, “we know a lot of people, so obviously [he’s] calling to say, ‘Should I put this person there? What do you think about that person?’ “When I did talk to the president, he said he wanted me to come to Chicago because he wanted to talk to me.” “Even then,” Clinton said, “I honestly did not believe it was about me. & I did not.”

    Obama immediately offered her the job, Clinton recalled. “He said, ‘I want you to be my secretary of state.’ And, I said, ‘Oh, no you don’t,'” she said, laughing. “I said there are so many other people who could do this and do it really well. I had this image in my head, I’d be back in the Senate, I’d spend time at my house, I’d visit my friends in the city and upstate and go back and work on health care. … So I was very taken aback and somewhat resistant to the idea because it just seemed so unexpected. I couldn’t grasp it,” she said.

    “But we kept talking, [and] I’m pretty old-fashioned … so, at the end of the day, when your president asks you to serve, you say yes if you can.”

    Since taking on the role, Clinton said, Obama “has been very supportive, very forthcoming. “I feel not only incredibly involved but relied upon.”

    abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/hillary-clinton-nears-decision-us-strategy-afghanistan/story?id=8815655#

  55. Another GOP senator open to health care overhaul

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

    WASHINGTON — Another Republican senator says she’s open to voting for a sweeping health care overhaul this year. Maine Sen. Susan Collins said Wednesday the status quo is unaccaptable and she shares the goal of passing responsible health care legislation to expand coverage and curb costs. But Collins also said she has serious concerns about the version that cleared the Finance Committee Tuesday with the support of her Maine colleague, Olympia Snowe. Collins said she worries the coverage won’t be affordable for many families and small businesses, and said proposed Medicare cuts are too deep

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9BATJ8O0

  56. October 15, 2009

    Clinton Urges Russia to Open Political System

    By MARK LANDLER

    MOSCOW — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton declared Wednesday that Russia would best fulfill its potential if it opened its political system and allowed more dissent.

    In a town-hall meeting with almost 1,000 students at Moscow State University, Mrs. Clinton spoke forcefully about human rights abuses and the weaknesses in Russia’s legal system.

    “That’s why attacks on journalists and human rights activists are such a great concern, because it is a threat to progress,” Mrs. Clinton said. “The more open and dynamic political system you have, the more opinions that will flow in, and the more successful outcomes will flow out.”

    Asked by a student to name a book that had made an impact on her, Mrs. Clinton singled out “The Brothers Karamazov” by Fyodor Dostoevsky. She said the parable of the Grand Inquisitor in that novel spoke to dangers of certitude, and was a lesson she had carried with her for her adult life. “One of the greatest threats we face is from people who believe they are absolutely, certainly right about everything,” Mrs. Clinton said.

    Mrs. Clinton’s trip visit served to underscore the Obama administration’s growing attachment to Dmitri A. Medvedev, the 44-year-old lawyer and businessman who was Vladimir V. Putin’s choice to succeed him as president. The White House made much of a recent statement by Mr. Medvedev that “sometimes sanctions are inevitable,” interpreting it as support for a tough stance on Iran. But his words have not been echoed by either Mr. Putin or the foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov. After Mr. Lavrov rejected the American call to threaten sanctions against Iran on Tuesday, Mrs. Clinton went to see Mr. Medvedev at his dacha outside Moscow. Her aides said he repeated the support he had expressed to Mr. Obama.

    On Wednesday, when Mrs. Clinton was asked during a Moscow radio interview why she had gone to see the president, she pointedly reminded listeners of who directs Russia’s foreign policy. “The president sets the policy,” Mrs. Clinton said. “I carry out President Obama’s policy; Minister Lavrov carries out President Medvedev’s policy. So making sure we are communicating is very important.”

    Later, at a town-hall meeting at Moscow State University, Mrs. Clinton praised the president’s vision of a Russia that builds its economic prosperity on technology and innovation rather than mineral wealth. Left unsaid was the role of Mr. Putin, who remains the power behind the throne in this country. He was off in Beijing during Mrs. Clinton’s visit, signing trade deals worth several billion dollars with the Chinese.

    But Mrs. Clinton’s emphasis was on the new rather than the old. She told the students that they symbolized a new Russia, one that produces innovators like Sergey Brin, the Muscovite started the Internet search giant, Google. And she urged Russia to throw aside its old animosities.

    I choose partnership, and I choose to put aside being a child of the cold war,” Mrs. Clinton said. “I choose to move beyond the rhetoric and propaganda that came from my government and your’s.”

    “I choose a different future, and that’s a choice everyone of us can make every single day, and I look forward to sharing that future with you,” she said.

    nytimes.com/2009/10/15/world/europe/15diplo.html?hp

  57. JanH Says:

    October 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
    Another GOP senator open to health care overhaul

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    The problem is, that the present plan stinks and doesn’t do very much, if anything, to control costs. Robbing Medicare to pay for this, is wrong and short-sighted. We need reform, but not this plan. I believe that most of the middle class costs will only go up with the proposed plan. We’ll have to see, what the final product looks like. The Baucus bill is not the way to go.

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    Whatever Hillary decides, will be the right thing for her. She really can’t say anything else, even if she wanted to.

  58. JanH Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    I never expected a country that is actually babysitting and nurturing Iran with technical and arms assistance (namely Russia) to fall into line. When has the western world been able to trust anything coming from a country swollen with one of the bloodiest histories in the world?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Apparently, Hillary (and Bibi) is/are aware of what is going on but doesn’t find it productive holding their past against them in the interests of the present situation controlling Iran’s production or non-production of enriched uranium.

    Clinton, Lavrov agree to delay sanctions against Iran

    h…. en.rian.ru/russia/20091013/156451209.html

  59. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe so, but I guarantee you they are sleeping with one eye open. I doubt very much they are completely falling into bambi’s wacky peacekeeping mode just yet.

  60. “S”, as a resident of S. Fla for 37 yrs and know all abpout Rick Sanchez, and Larry King for that matter…….how these two (2) made it , particularly, King is astonionshing to me.

  61. JanH 10:27 am: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is close to formulating a U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, she said today
    ================
    so this is how BO can do what he wants there and still justify peace prize.

    BTW: My son-in-law told me that Hitler was nominated for NPP. This at a time when no one knew how bad he was going to become. The son-in-law is pretty sharp but I did a brief check finding similar info at wiki: Hitler’s nomination stood for a month.

    So I’d say, as if you’ve not been saying it forever already, America beware.

  62. huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/insurers-royally-played-o_b_318181.html

    Insurers Royally Played Obama

    In the months after President Obama’s inauguration, he and other administration officials held more than two dozen secret meetings with top insurers and the major pharmaceutical groups. He met with registered lobbyist Karen Ignagni, president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the major private insurer’s industry group, on March 5, 6 and 11, May 11 and June 30.

    The meeting with AHIP and the other industry bigwigs was followed by a much public and much ballyhooed pledge by the private insurers and the pharmaceuticals to plow tens of millions of dollars into an ad and PR blitz to back Obama’s health care reform plan. They solemnly and very publicly assured that they’d work closely with Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus and his five other cohorts on the Committee to not be the hardheaded obstructionists they’d been for the past six decades to getting health care reform passed. Obama bought their pledge, back patted them for their spirit of cooperation, and publicly hailed them for promising to break down the final barrier, namely themselves, to providing affordable health care to all Americans.

    The insurers hustled, conned and lied to Obama. They cynically played upon his political naiveté about them. Worse, they didn’t even try to mask their play of him. AHIP brazenly fired off to the press a study it commissioned that claims that Obama’s health care reform plan will hike the cost of insurance for families by thousands. The insurers insist that private employers will get hit even harder with the increased fees, taxes, and add-on costs in the reform plan. They swear that will cause many employers to reduce or even eliminate coverage for their employees. The insurers doubled down on their play of Obama by threatening to spend a fortune on an ad campaign to kill his plan.

    The worst part of the insurers con game is that they had already squeezed a guaranteed profit bonanza out of the White House and the Senate Finance Committee–no public option, government enforced mandates complete with penalties, taxpayer subsidies of the poor and middle class uninsured, forced employer mandated plans, and best of all absolutely no meaningful government hammer over them to make sure that they don’t raise prices or figure out ways to dump those who private insurers label “high risk” or less charitably, “undesirables” at the first chance they get. Those are the millions who suffer chronic and major diseases–cancer, diabetes, asthma and heart disease. The overwhelming majority of them are blacks and Latinos and the poor.

    Covering them was supposed to be the reason that Obama and congress battled for reform in the first place. The issue for private insurers even as they made nice with the White House and deceived Obama into thinking that he had a deal with them has never changed. It’s still their endemic fear of any smattering of government control of medical care.

    The hint that insurers would double cross the White House the first chance they got was Obama’s mere mention that he’d impose higher taxes on the wealthy to pay for coverage of the uninsured. This stirred terror among insurers and medical industry groups of deficit soaring taxes and socialized medicine. The even bigger hint was the even more terrifying to them thought that congress might actually impose cost containment measures into whatever reform package that finally emerged from congress. This would directly threaten what insurers regard as their absolute right to make and keep the kings ransom in profits they’ve raked in seemingly forever. This drove them to the barricades the past six decades even faster than their phony, self-serving scare shout that health care reform is socialized medicine.

    Obama learned an age old and bitter lesson from the insurer’s double cross. When you try to buy your enemies affection you can never be rich enough. The insurers royally played Obama.

    Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His forthcoming book, How Obama Governed: The Year of Crisis and Challenge (Middle Passage Press) will be released in January, 2010.

  63. A little more…

    Clinton: I’d have hired Obama

    By: Andy Barr
    October 14, 2009 10:54 AM EST

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday that if she had won presidential election, Barack Obama would “absolutely” have served in her Cabinet.

    Recalling the conversation she had with then-president-elect Obama about her joining the administration during an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” Clinton said that she was at first surprised when the president offered her the secretary of state post.

    “It was, you know, about … five, six days after the election. And my husband and I were out for a walk, actually, in a, sort of, preserve near where we live in New York. And he had his cell phone in his pocket. It started ringing in the middle of this, you know, big nature preserve,” Clinton said. “Instead of turning it off, he answered it. And it was President-elect Obama wanting to talk to him about some people he was considering for positions.”

    Clinton said she then picked up the phone thinking Obama wanted to talk generally about Cabinet picks when he surprised her by asking the former New York senator and Democratic rival to become his chief diplomat.

    “He said I want you to be my secretary of state. And I said, ‘Oh, no, you don’t,’” Clinton recalled. “I said, ‘Oh, please, there’s so many other people who could do this.’

    “But, you know, we kept talking. I finally began thinking, look, if I had won and I had called him, I would have wanted him to say yes,” Clinton continued. “And, you know, I’m pretty old-fashioned, and it’s just who I am. So at the end of the day, when your president asks you to serve, you say yes, if you can.”

    Asked if she would have made the same call to Obama if she had been elected president, Clinton responded: “Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, of course.”

    Additionally, Clinton backed up her statement from earlier in the week that she will not run for president a second time.

    “I have absolutely no interest in running for president again. None. None,” she said. “I mean, I know that’s hard for some people to believe, but, you know, I just don’t.”

    “I feel like I have had the most amazing life in my public service,” the secretary of state continued. “And for the last 17 years, ever since my husband started running for president, I have been, you know, in the spotlight, working hard. And this job is incredibly all-encompassing. So I think I’m looking forward to maybe taking some time off.”

    (There is a video to watch as well)

    politico.com/news/stories/1009/28278.html#

  64. Fox News Less Biased Than CNN, MSNBC in White House Coverage

    October 14, 2009
    By Mary Kate Cary, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

    My colleague Doug Heye wrote yesterday about White House Communications Director Anita Dunn’s recent attack on Fox News. I agree with Doug—the White House should not be going after a specific news outlet as biased. Especially when it’s not true. Take a look at a Fox News account that includes this fact:

    As for Dunn’s complaint about Fox News’ coverage of the Obama campaign, a study by the Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News’ stories on Obama’s Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative.

    On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent). The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories—a spread of 59 points.

    I’d add this: If you were a reporter at another network, wouldn’t the logical “next step” be to make sure your coverage of the president is positive all the time, so that you are not singled out and cut off from further access to the president, as Fox has been? This is what happens when the administration tries to manipulate press coverage. And I think it’s safe to say it backfires every time.

    usnews.com/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/10/14/fox-news-less-biased-than-cnn-msnbc-in-white-house-coverage-.html

  65. THis is interesting!! BO the muslim terrorist???

    House Republicans accuse Muslim group of trying to plant spies
    By Jordy Yager – 10/14/09 11:01 AM ET
    Four House Republicans are accusing a Muslim advocacy group of trying to plant spies.

    Republican members of the Congressional Anti-Terrorism Caucus say the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), tried to plant “spies” within key national security committees to shape legislative policy in its favor.

    Reps. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.), John Shadegg (R-Ariz.), Paul Broun (R-Ga.) and Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), citing the recently released book Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America, called for the House sergeant at arms to investigate whether CAIR had been successful in placing interns on key committees. The lawmakers are specifically focused on the House Homeland Security Committee, Intelligence Committee and Judiciary Committee.

    “If an organization is connected to or supports terrorists [and] is running influence operations or planting spies in key national security-related offices I think this needs to be made known,” Broun said. “So I join my colleagues here today in calling for action.”

    The book, which was written by P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry with a forward by Myrick, is scheduled to be released Thursday.

    A representative of CAIR called the accusations unfounded and worried that they would tarnish the improving relations between Muslim and non-Muslim Americans.

    “God forbid American Muslims take part in the political process and exercise their rights,” said Ibrahim Hooper, a CAIR spokesman, in a telephone interview. “I suppose they’re going to investigate the Muslim Staffers Association next.

    “If these people weren’t so hate-filled, it would be laughable, but unfortunately they have an audience and given their positions, it’s going to get picked up by the hate blogs

  66. I have to so I’m more than a little fed up with all this.

    In all the years he was President, I almost never disagreed with what Clinton was doin’, or at least I understood why he had to do certain thigns even he may not have liked.

    But first not going to Denver, then giving BO cover with that horrendous heist known as the stimulus package, and now he’s excited about the fuckin’ Baucus bill?

    I just don’t understand.

  67. # JanH Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Mrs. Smith,
    Maybe so, but I guarantee you they are sleeping with one eye open. I doubt very much they are completely falling into bambi’s wacky peacekeeping mode just yet.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Bambi has backed his end of the bargain agreeing not to build a missile defense system in Poland- Their faith, as is ours, is in Hillary as an honest broker of the agreement between Russia and the US.

    No one knows better than the Russians if there is any betrayal from their side of their agreement. You can expect the US to respond with WWIII with good reason.

    Why would we want to think emotionally reliving Cold War themes in the 21st Century? Neither side stands to benefit if that were the climate of our diplomatic relations with Russia.

    Hillary, according to the article you posted, is using this inroad to promote Human Rights and protection for journalists lost to Cold War thinkers who feel they have something to protect. She is wisely using this opportunity for giving greater scope to a broader agenda than just compliance problems with Iran.

    I am behind her 100% and would never attempt to second guess or advise her to do otherwise.

  68. admin:

    I’m hearing from several blogs your “LIVE Feed” to new articles is not working. There is either an error with Google Live Feed or the Live Feed code is missing altogether from His44.org..

  69. “I am behind her 100% and would never attempt to second guess or advise her to do otherwise.”

    ————————-

    Mrs. Smith,

    I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I am in 100% agreement with you about Hillary on all points. I was simply stating that while she is indeed an honest broker, she is not a naive one. She has done her homework, is giving her all to make this happen, but will not let the Russians try to fool her in any way.

    That was all I meant.

  70. JanH Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Whenever discussing anything Hillary is doing, I always look at what she is doing through “her” eyes; not my own. When old grievances and grudges get in the way, right away, imho, it’s apparent, clear heads are not prevailing over a current situation. That would worry me, if that were the case.

    Anyway, I understand your concern …

  71. From the Obamafile. I thought it quiet interesting on Obama’s past and who is protecting him.

    Globalist Cover-Up Hiding Obama’s Past?

    Mychal Massie says Barack Obama has spent (or had spent for him) between $1.8 million and $3.2 million in legal fees to keep his personal records secret. These include his birth certificate, his college records and all else that could provide more insight into his past.

    But why? Who spends that kind of money to keep their records hidden unless they have something to hide? And if someone (especially a political figure, not to mention a sitting president) is willing to go to such lengths, it is reasonable to believe he has something to hide. It is reasonable to believe that whatever it is they are hiding would be damning if revealed. What could it be that Obama is so fearful of having revealed?

    Consider the kind of power it takes to command such silence. Let’s face it — there is nothing not known that cannot be made known — Jimmy Hoffa’s resting place notwithstanding.

    Let’s first start with what it takes to keep the cacophony of silence and complicit cover-up silent and covered up.

    Joan Swirsky writes that Douglas Hagmann, in an interview with Dr. Laurie Roth, revealed, “The reason for the media blackout about [Obama’s] birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media, issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations, but also from Federal Communication Commission officials. According to Hagmann and [his investigative partner] Judi McCleod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously,” threats were made to fire major talk-show hosts if they mentioned Obama’s birth certificate, threats were made by FCC officials to yank broadcasting licenses, and memos were circulated by corporate TV headquarters to all on-air employees advising them not to mention the birth-certificate issue, his lawyer’s license or his college records.

    According to Swirsky, during the interview Hagmann and McCleod alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession — copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations.

    But the question that begs answering is: Why go to such lengths to keep documents away from public scrutiny? The birth-certificate issue is only a critical problem if, as many believe, it contradicts Obama’s citizenship story. And why prevent access to college records or restrict inquiry concerning his law license?

    An even more pressing question is: How does a person like Obama — a nobody from nowhere — come to command such power and money so as to pull this off? Think about what it takes for a presidential candidate, and now sitting president, to have such power.

    The answer can only be that Obama is the front man for something far more sinister. One person, without the strength and backing of a cabal capable of toppling governments and affecting worldwide currencies, etc., could not even consider such an undertaking, much less pull it off.

    Ergo, the logical conclusion must then be that behind Obama there exists a group or organization so powerful and so sinister that they are able not just to influence global policy, but to control it. I repeat for the record, Obama in and of himself cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, singularly demand that every major media outlet ignore investigating that which could potentially make Woodward and Bernstein’s investigation into President Nixon pale in comparison.

    Global domination is obviously their goal, but what in Obama’s background threatens to derail them if it were exposed? Rumors and suspicions abound pursuant to his citizenship, but if someone has enough power to silence a worldwide press and media, they would certainly have the ability to forge or recreate birth documents.

    Also, Obama didn’t go to school in a vacuum. If there were something in his college records or if he had committed a crime or whatever, other students would know it and those persons would have by now leaked same to a credible source or outlet.

    But there is one thing that wouldn’t be as accessible to public scrutiny and that is his medical records. If in his background there is evidence of emotional breakdown, susceptibility to breakdown, emotional instability or something similar and it became known, it is the one thing that could derail the objectives of the power behind him.

    I’m not an investigative journalist. I write opinion, and it is my opinion that Obama is but the tip of something much larger, and if same were to become known it would reverberate worldwide. If he isn’t, then he should make the requested records available immediately. No other president or leader — not Castro, not Chavez, not Clinton, not Khrushchev — has demanded and received the secrecy he has. No one was capable of such a feat until now.

    It is time, no matter the risk or the cost, for investigators and reporters to do their jobs. The American public has the right to know the truth about Obama. Eligibility
    10/14/09
    KeepAmericaSafe.com

  72. Putin is now saying that if anyone attacks Iran, they reserve the right and the nuclear right to go after the nation that attacked Iran.
    Bambi has made a huge mess, with no way to get out.

  73. BBC News in Europe is reporting that the Obama administration has informed the UK Govt of an announcement within a few days of a substantial increase in troops in Afghanistan, sit back and watch the liberal wing of the party go apeshit.

  74. I doubt seriously Russia would nuke Israel if she attacks Iran as that would possibly cause us to retaliate not to mention Israel can aim the rest of the arheads towards Moscow….Putin is an evil and dangerous man, but does not want Russia to go down over Iran…

  75. “threats were made to fire major talk-show hosts if they mentioned Obama’s birth certificate, threats were made by FCC officials to yank broadcasting licenses, and memos were circulated by corporate TV headquarters to all on-air employees advising them not to mention the birth-certificate issue, his lawyer’s license or his college records.”

    —————————

    Which makes what Lou Dobbs and Fox did even more brave.

  76. Putin blustering and flexing his puny muscles. If he thinks Bibi would stand down over a threat like this, he is more loony-tunes than I originally thought.

    How will he back off from a threat like this. Is he really ready to start a nuclear world war III just to protect a terrorist regime?

  77. confloyd Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    From the Obamafile. I thought it quiet interesting on Obama’s past and who is protecting him.

    Globalist Cover-Up Hiding Obama’s Past?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    confloyd- make sure wbb knows about this article when you speak to him. A good intro into the research he’s doing.. The more people asking questions the better the chance we have making the case Obama is not the real president, Soros and his cronys are-

  78. OCTOBER 14, 2009

    Obama Pushes Congress to Extend Payments for Seniors

    By HENRY J. PULIZZI

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is pushing Congress to extend a stimulus program to provide $250 payments to help seniors, veterans and people with disabilities cope with the economic slump next year. “These payments will provide aid to more than 50 million people in the coming year, relief that will not only make a difference for them, but for our economy as a whole, complementing the tax cuts we’ve provided working families and small businesses through the Recovery Act,” Mr. Obama said in a statement. “This additional assistance will be especially important in the coming months, as countless seniors and others have seen their retirement accounts and home values decline as a result of this economic crisis.”

    The Social Security Administration is expected to announce Thursday that Social Security beneficiaries won’t get a cost of living adjustment next year as a result of the recession.

    As it faces pressure to adopt new measures to bolster the economy and spur job creation, the White House painted the proposal as a one-year extension of an effective element of the $787 billion stimulus plan. So far, 55 million people have received “economic recovery payments” totaling $13.7 billion. Most of those checks were mailed in May. The White House said 57 million people would benefit from the extension, which would cost $13 billion.

    According to the White House, the size of the benefit would be $250 billion, or equivalent to a 2% increase in benefits for the average Social Security beneficiary. People would be prohibited from “double dipping,” receiving the payment through more than one program. People also wouldn’t be allowed to receive the economic recovery payment as well as the administration’s signature Making Work Pay tax credit. The White House said the cost of the proposal wouldn’t damage the solvency of Social Security or other social insurance programs.

    Most of the recipients of the new payment — 49 million — would be Social Security beneficiaries. Around 5 million would be Supplemental Security Income beneficiaries, 2 million would be veterans benefit recipients, 0.5 million would be railroad retirement and disability beneficiaries, and about 1 million would be public-employee retirees.

    House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D., NY) expressed support for the proposal. “This additional assistance will be especially important in the coming months, as countless seniors and others have seen their retirement accounts and home values decline as a result of this economic crisis,” Mr. Rangel said in a statement.

    The White House also announced that the Internal Revenue Service and the Treasury Department will take steps this week to prevent reductions in the amounts that workers can contribute to IRAs, 401(k)s, and other aspects of tax-favored retirement systems in 2010.

    online.wsj.com/article/SB125555666289285827.html

  79. Congratulations President Clinton. Well deserved!

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    Bill Clinton’s Nobel Consolation Prize

    Wednesday, October 14, 2009
    By Katie Paul

    So Barack Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize. Whatever. That’s all you got, Obama? The Big Dog takes your Nobel and raises you a Scholar-Statesman Award.

    That’s right. This evening, as Barack Obama continues to fret about war, peace, and the domestic political fallout from an unexpected (and seemingly unwelcome) Nobel win, Bill Clinton will be at the Pierre Hotel in New York accepting the annual Scholar-Statesman Award from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

    Last week, the Gagglers named Bill Clinton one of the six people most peeved about the Obama win, but we say he has plenty of reason to feel just as good about his new award. For one, the two have a lot in common. Last year’s Scholar-Statesman was Henry Kissinger, who has also won a Nobel Peace Prize. For another, the description sounds catchier. “There’s a certain magic when you bring together people who have contributed so much to our nation and Western Civilization writ large,” said Robert Satloff, the Washington Institute’s director, of the event last year. The Nobel Committee describes its own ceremony as “solemn.” And finally, anybody can order up their own knock-off Nobel Prize Award Dinner at the Grand Hotel Oslo these days. Take that, Nobel.

    blog.newsweek.com/blogs/wealthofnations/archive/2009/10/14/bill-clinton-s-nobel-consolation-prize.aspx

  80. Here’s this from Putin:

    BEIJING (Reuters) – Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned major powers on Wednesday against intimidating Iran and said talk of sanctions against the Islamic Republic over its nuclear programme was “premature”.

    Putin, who many diplomats, analysts, and Russian citizens believe is still Russia’s paramount leader despite stepping down as president last year, was speaking after U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited Moscow for two days of talks.

    “There is no need to frighten the Iranians,” Putin told reporters in Beijing after a meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.

    “We need to look for a compromise. If a compromise is not found, and the discussions end in a fiasco, then we will see.”

    “And if now, before making any steps (towards holding talks) we start announcing some sanctions, then we won’t be creating favourable conditions for them (talks) to end positively. This is why it is premature to talk about this now.”

    Clinton failed to secure any specific assurances from Russia on Iran during her visit, leaving her open to criticism at home that she had not received anything from Moscow after earlier U.S. concessions on missile defence.

    Iranian, Russian, French, U.S. and U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency officials will meet in Vienna on Oct. 19 to discuss how to implement a plan agreed in principle at talks in Geneva for low-grade Iranian uranium to be enriched overseas to a purity suitable for nuclear reactors but not weapons.

    The Geneva talks on Oct. 1 also produced Iranian agreement for international inspectors to visit a second enrichment plant now under construction near Qom. Apparent Iranian concession reduced pressure for a widening of economic sanctions some analysts said could be extended to the oil and gas industry.

    Clinton said she would have liked to have seen Putin but that their agendas did not coincide. Putin left for a trip to the Russian Far East and China before her arrival in Moscow.
    On the contentious issue of missile defence, which has divided Russia and the United States in the past, Putin said he hoped the United States would not renege on its promise to scrap plans for an anti-missile system in central Europe.

    “We are being guided by what the head of the American state is saying,” Putin said. “He said there would be no anti-missile shield in Europe. We are satisfied by this statement, and to make assumptions what happens next is not quite right.”

    Moscow had opposed plans by previous U.S. President George W. Bush to deploy interceptor missiles in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic, viewing this as a direct threat to Russia’s national security.

    Putin said however Moscow “feels no euphoria” about Bush’s successor Barack Obama’s promise to roll back the shield plans.

    “We treated this decision with reserve, calmly,” he said. “In any case, the country’s leadership accepted it with understanding and gratitude. We believe this was Obama’s right and courageous decision.”

    (Writing by Guy Faulconbridge and Dmitry Solovyov, editing by Michael Stott and Janet McBride)

    © Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved

  81. Well. Obama made the grand gesture. Unilateral disarmament. And then he said hey Vlad now its your turn. And what did Putin say in return? Did he say how can I say no to a Nobel Peace Prize recipient who never did jack squat, a Country Western Entertainer of the Year Award who never cut a record, or a Heisman Trophy winner who never set foot on grid iron. No Vlad the impaler cut right is a man of action, even when the action is inaction. He looked the Messiah in the eye and said, thank you for the unilateral concession but I have changed my mind. Sucker!

  82. And Turkey is moving closer and closer towards a Muslim / anti-Israeli nation each and every day…..So, the big reach out to Muslims fails, the big give away to Russia bites him in the butt. and his health care plan will pass , barely, because he has the votes, but will be very hurtful to most Americans in the long run….

  83. Collins and Snowe must go. Two dogs IMHO.

    I am not so sure this health care will ever be enacted. Passed yes, enacted, maybe not if we can get enough buffoons out of the congress.

  84. Oct. 14 (Bloomberg) — Twenty-seven U.S. labor unions defied White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and announced their opposition to the $829 billion health-care measure passed yesterday by the Senate Finance Committee.

    The unions say in a full-page newspaper advertisement today that lawmakers need to make “substantial” changes to the bill or they will urge their members to seek its defeat on the Senate floor. Emanuel asked organized labor not to go public in opposition, said Gerald McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

    “He told us that we really don’t want to be looked upon as the group that stopped meaningful health-care reform,” McEntee said in an interview yesterday. “We would love to be on the exact same page as the White House, but we see ourselves as fighting for our members.”

    Sarah Feinberg, senior adviser to Emanuel, declined to comment.

    Unions helped elect President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority in Congress, and have made overhauling the health-care system a top priority. They oppose elements of the bill approved by the Senate committee, including a tax on the most-expensive insurance plans. Some union contracts provide health benefits costly enough to be affected.

    The provision will become “a tax on the middle class,” who “through negotiations or otherwise, have employer-provided coverage,” Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said in an e-mailed statement.

    The measure would impose a 40 percent excise tax on insurers of employer-sponsored health plans with benefits exceeding $8,000 for individual coverage and $21,000 for families.

    AFL-CIO, Auto Workers

    Among groups signing the ad, which appeared today in Washington newspapers, were the United Auto Workers, the Air Line Pilots Association, the United Steel Workers and the AFL- CIO, the world’s biggest labor federation with about 11 million members.

    The ad’s headline is: “Our Bottom Line for Health Care Reform.” Calling for “good, affordable health care,” it says, “We aren’t there yet. The Senate Finance Committee bill is deeply flawed.”

    The unions want Congress to create a so-called public option, a government health plan that would compete with private insurers, and to require that almost all employers provide health care or contribute to a fund subsidizing coverage. Neither provision is in the measure that the Finance Committee approved, 14-9.

    snip

    Unions hope their public opposition will pressure Democrats to adhere to labor’s goals, McEntee said. Labor will also press its views in private meetings with lawmakers, he said. “If it reaches the floor in this manner, we will ask them to vote against it,” he said.

    ‘Not the Commitment’

    McEntee said Emanuel called him and AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka on a Sunday last month and asked them not to oppose the legislation while the Finance Committee was considering it. “We didn’t talk to any senators about our opposition,” he said.

    Emanuel pressed labor again last week not to oppose the bill once it was approved by the committee, according to McEntee. “That was not the commitment we made,” he said.

    Labor leaders have made clear their distaste toward the committee bill since it was proposed last month by Senator Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat and the panel’s chairman. Trumka urged labor activists at the AFL-CIO convention in Pittsburgh to make the case against it. McEntee led the convention delegates in a chant denouncing the proposal as “bullshit.”

    Some labor unions that were included in a draft of the newspaper advertisement didn’t sign on to the final version, including the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.

    The Service Employees International Union, led by Andy Stern, didn’t sign either version of the ad.

    Stern said in an e-mailed statement that his union’s 2.1 million members will work to make sure health legislation “is worthy of their support and truly makes health care affordable for all Americans.”

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=asRzBcIRCcog#

  85. And Turkey is moving closer and closer towards a Muslim / anti-Israeli nation each and every day…..So, the big reach out to Muslims fails, the big give away to Russia bites him in the butt. and his health care plan will pass , barely, because he has the votes, but will be very hurtful to most Americans in the long run….
    —————————–
    Hope? Change? Hope and Change? Change and Hope? Bush III? Hopeless? Alfred Nobel is turning over in his grave. It is like the old Texas expression when all is said and done, much is said and damned little is done. Just words? Just words? Just words? Thats about the size of it. How come he is so intelligent and everything is so fu?

  86. Stern said in an e-mailed statement that his union’s 2.1 million members will work to make sure health legislation “is worthy of their support and truly makes health care affordable for all Americans.”
    ————————————————
    Now thats what I call a gentleman–I mean a real asshole. Look up in the sky its a bird its a plane no no no it is the backus heath care bill.

    The devolution works this way: universal health care becomes health insurance reform which becomes health reform, and reconciliation will produce the bride of frankenstein , which is fitting and proper since Pelosi is involved.

    When asked what impact this would have on ordinary Americans Pelosi smiled demurely until her face snapped and then uttered coyly> oh them– the little people? Let them eat cake.

  87. Something funny happened today. There was this teacher who gave a higher math test and discussed the scores of the students in class. One student asked the question, “But, you WILL scale the grades won’t you?” This is a smaller class because it is higher math. The grades were disappointing, especially in light that these were to be future teachers.

    Well, let me tell you, honey…that teacher gave the BEST lecture on
    redistribution of grades, and how scaling is welfare, that grades should be earned not given, and that scaling would be socialism. This teacher asked a student who works hard and does well how would she feel if another student who does not work hard or study and expects to be ‘given’ a grade was given part of her earned grade? I am told that student had the aha light bulb come in her head. The teacher gave a mulitude of examples of how allowing students to ‘float’ through is not good for any of the students, or their future students, for teachers need to know their subjects, teach where the students can learn, and expect excellence. The teacher also presented to them that later in the semester they will learn about why there was no mathematical base for scaling grades in a class this size. The teacher also asked for two students to complete an assignment to try and prove the teacher wrong, only one person volunteered. These are math students who will be teaching, like high school mathematics, in a school near you in short order.
    I stated, but whoa are you not afraid that you will be disciplined for going against the Alinsky/Annenberg Challenge socialist current way of teaching? The teacher said, “Well, I don’t see HOW I could be in trouble for I am a math teacher, and I was teaching numbers.
    This is a very brave teacher, and I commend her.

  88. So BO’s giving seniors $250 for Social Security next year, but looking to cut $500B from Medicare to give the insurance industry (in addition to 40 million new customers and a whopping giveaway on prescription drugs) under the guise of reform.

    Make that the guise of bi-partisan reform, cause, you know, Olympia Snow is involved so it’s bi-partisan.

  89. Blue Democrat, I believe that is what is called voodoo math or fuzzy math. Maybe they learned this from the derivative market, convincing people that they really are selling a good, but in essence are selling nothing.

  90. OMG, This cannot be happening, why in the world would be let a Chinese General on a US Army base?? Gates says he has been working on this for 2 years, so this is what GWB also wanted?? Mr. One World GOvernment is one its way. This needs to go viral. This needs to be stopped!

    July: China Allows Rare Glimpse Inside Army Base

    Mao’s Popularity Surges in China 60 Years After Revolution

    China’s second-ranking military officer will travel to Washington later this month on a week-long visit designed to promote trust and avoid “misunderstandings,” the Pentagon said Wednesday.
    General Xu Caihou, vice chairman of the People’s Liberation Army central military commission, will hold high-level meetings from October 24-31 and visit military commands and bases across the United States, press secretary Geoff Morrell told a news conference.

    Since Defense Secretary Robert Gates paid a visit to China two years ago, the Chinese official “has been committed to fostering a better and deeper strategic dialogue with that country, especially better trust and transparency between our two militaries,” Morrell said.

    Gates “has been pushing for quite some time to have this kind of visit,” he said.

    “The more transparency there is, the more dialogue that goes on, the less chance there is for a misunderstanding between two very formidable powers on the world’s stage,” Morrell said.

    China is in the midst of a drive to modernize its armed forces and has announced large military budget increases in recent years, prompting US officials to question Beijing’s intentions.

    The two nations also experienced a series of standoffs involving Chinese vessels and US navy ships in waters off China earlier this year.

    China cut military exchanges with the United States for months last year over a proposed 6.5-billion-dollar US arms package to Taiwan, but agreed to resume them in February.

    Since then, the two countries have held several rounds of military talks.

    During his tour, the Chinese general was due to visit sites from all the US armed services, including the US Naval Academy in Maryland, US Strategic Command in Nebraska, Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, the US Army’s Fort Benning in Georgia, the North Island Naval Air Station in San Diego and US Pacific Command in Hawaii, Morrell said.

    “We will show him a great deal of how our military operates in this country,” he added.

  91. Rush Limbaugh has been dropped from those who wish to buy the Rams. This is the Chicago mob at its best, when they can rile up the mostly (black) football players to say they have a problem with Limbaugh being part owner in the Rams, we are nearing a civil war/black on white. I think Soros is pushing this. As they say, they need a serious crisis to complete the takeover.

    Letting a Chinese General look inside of our military bases is downright criminal. I am not sure its legal? Pls if I am wrong, pls, pls correct me because this scares the hell out of me. THe repulican civilians just can’t imagine that their little Bible toting POTUS could be in on the ruination of America, well they better wake up, it slices thru both parties.

    Now we hear that Biden is against the troop buildup, is this what happened in 2002 when Obama came out and said he was against going into Iraq?? Its worked one time so SOros believes it can happen again in 2012. Hillary again has been screwed because she is on record of saying to give the General his 40,000. Obama is giving just enough to ensure defeat, 25,000 more troops. Hillary has been sent across the other side of the world to Russia (siberia) while the mover/shakers put over another lie. She, I believe would NOT compromise her beliefs. WHEN WILL SHE STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH???

  92. The dollar is still falling, the stock market is still rising and this is what will lead to the loss of the dollar and our soveignty. It is how they took over every country since 1965.

    People this healthcare fight is loud and it is comsuming the American public’s mind right now, just what they want to keep us concerned over the unconcernable. The democrats have enough votes to pass the public option with out the help of anyone. Its merely smoke and mirrors. Fox is not even on top of this, WHY, I don’t know.

    When I heard about BIden making headlines about the troop buildup and when I heard we are not giving the amount of troops the General wants then I knew what is in the making. Hillary will not run, they won’t let her, she will not compromise her beliefs, and she will have to to get done what the globalists want to get done. Folks that is why she was crying in New Hampshire. I do thing Hillary is the only hope to save us and must all pray she will.

  93. wbboei, Glenn Beck is working hard to unearth the scorge of filth that lives in the WH, but he is not going after Soros as much as I would like. He is still going after the messengers, WHY??? They all know at (Fox) who is behind this, they are not talking. I believe they to are playing a role in this, keeping all of us upset, but never solving the real problem, the globalists, which includes many republicans.

    This has taken years of brain washing the run of the mill republicans and democrats to work against each other and we always have this fight between the red and the blue so the globalists can rob us of our country.

    THere are many more players in this besides Soros, he is one of many. How could they have put forth a man with no background to be POTUS, they are powerful. Now they are going to give the alcoholic Biden, when the country wants Hillary??? When we unravel the mystery behind Hillary’s defeat, we will find the players of this scourge that is taking our country away from us.

    Mrs. SMith, I am not slamming Hillary, just pointing out that she is still standing on her principles, I just hope to God BC is working behind the scenes to defeat this!!!

  94. Vivid memories of our girl in debate: Disillusioned liberals yearn for Hillary Clinton by Chris Stirewalt 10/15/2009

    Where were you when you came to the panicky realization that Hillary Clinton was right? For me, it was while driving to work one recent morning and talking with a colleague about the state of the health legislation. I was explaining how the Obama plan wasn’t really about universal coverage but rather cutting a deal with the insurance industry and then making it look good for liberals. I paused, realizing that I had just repeated, almost verbatim, the lines that Clinton used to bludgeon then-Sen. Barack Obama during the Democratic primaries.

    As they debated in Cleveland — the nastiest of their one-on-one matchups after John Edwards dropped out to spend more time with his families — Clinton charged that Obama wouldn’t play tough enough and would get rolled by the insurance industry. Her words came back to me: “Senator Obama’s plan does not cover everyone. It would leave, give or take, 15 million people out.” I expected to look into the rearview mirror and see her sitting in the back seat cackling and wearing that suit that looked like it had been plucked from the wardrobe trailer of “Star Trek: The Next Generation.”

    [later on in the same debate came another memorable Clinton line: “Shame on you, Barack Obama.”]

    www dot washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Disillusioned-liberals-yearn-for-Hillary-Clinton-64236872.html

  95. I never like Rush Limbaugh, but I believe in his right to own whatever he can afford in this country, afterall he is an American, but these days we are selling everything we own to China.

    Gee, I wonder how many Chinese and foreign buyers are in on the deal, anyone know??

  96. OK now, the Chinese to see our military machine and now Russia to see our nuke sites?? WTF is this?? THis has been going on while we were all fighting about healthcare!!!

    weapons inspection program that would allow Russians to visit nuclear sites in America to count missiles and warheads.

    The plan, which Fox News has learned was agreed to in principle during negotiations, would constitute the most intrusive weapons inspection program the U.S. has ever accepted.

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who met with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, said publicly Tuesday that the two nations have made “considerable” progress toward reaching agreement on a new strategic arms treaty.

    The 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires in December and negotiators have been racing to reach agreement on a successor.

    Clinton said the U.S. would be as transparent as possible.

    “We want to ensure that every question that the Russian military or Russian government asks is answered,” she said, calling missile defense “another area for deep cooperation between our countries.”

    On another critical issue, Lavrov declared that it would be counterproductive to threaten Iran with more sanctions over its nuclear program — as he resisted efforts by Clinton to win agreement for tougher measures should Iran fail to prove its program is peaceful.

    Clinton visited Moscow on her first trip since becoming America’s top diplomat, in an effort to gauge Moscow’s willingness to join the U.S. in imposing sanctions.

    Clinton said the U.S. agreed it was important to pursue diplomacy with Iran.

    “At the same time that we are very vigorously pursuing this track, we are aware that we might not be as successful as we need to be, so we have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful and cannot assure ourselves and others that Iran has decided not to pursue nuclear weapons,” she said at a joint news conference.

    Iran insists it has the right to a full domestic nuclear enrichment program and maintains it is only for peaceful purposes, such as energy production.

    President Obama — who visited Russia in July — has vowed to “reset” U.S.-Russia relations. On Tuesday, Clinton apologized for missing that meeting because of a broken elbow.

    “But now both my elbow and our relationships are reset and we’re moving forward, which I greatly welcome,” she said.

    She was to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev later Tuesday.

  97. Why is the chinese and the russians being allowed to see our military bases and see where and how many nukes we have???? Who in the hell is approving this???

  98. admin: Please embed. This is dejavue. His HC plan sucks and its the one he wanted in the first place. What a crock of crap!

    h t t p :/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtmUYg13CY

    She would limit the amount of premiums insurance companies can charge to a percentage of their income.

  99. Fox is saying Hillary has failed to secure sanctions in RUssia. THey knew she would fail and are letting the press say this and not a thing about the good things she has done. Nothing has changed since the election, NOTHING!!

  100. Wbboei, I will be in and out all day, have many things to do. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE FOR SORO’S WEAK SPOT!! Check this out. There is a book that was written, I will try and find it at the library today. IT’s calling The Investment Practices of George Soros vs. Warren Buffet. There is an excerpt on line, it will not let me embed the url. It is also 85 pages. In it, it discusses the methodology of the billionaires. They are looking at healthcare, 1/7th of the economy for a takeover, its all how it will come out. Hillary’s way was the way she stated in the 08 video of the debate which I posted upstream. Soros is planning on using our tax dollars (as he did with oil in Brazil) to make money in the healthcare field. Buffet has a completely different approach and there in lies the fighting in Washington, like a bunch of vultures picking the carcus’es of the American Medical Institution. Read this!! THis is how and why Soros doesn’t like the FBI!!

    Michelle Malkin Soros-backed Medicare insurer raided by FBI
    By Michelle Malkin • October 25, 2007 10:36 AM
    Photoshop via Van Helsing

    The St. Petersburg Times reports on an FBI raid of WellCare, a shady Medicare insurer…initially funded by far Left billionaire George Soros and run by one of his acolytes:

    For the past two years, analysts have been asking how fast-growing WellCare Health Plans of Tampa has been able to make so much money running government health plans for the poor and elderly. Now government investigators may be asking the same thing.

    On a rainy Wednesday morning, more than 200 federal and state agents swarmed WellCare’s campus on Henderson Road in Tampa, forcing employees onto the sidewalk and into their cars.

    Steven Meitzen, 51, who arrived at WellCare about 9:40 a.m. for a job interview, said he was initially told it was a bomb scare. “Later on, I talked to someone who said the FBI had a subpoena and were looking for records,” he said.
    Wellcare serves Medicare and Medicaid customers–more than 350,000 seniors in Florida alone. The stock fell yesterday on news of the raid. Seems stories have been floating around for a while about the company enrolling dead people and such:

    Thomas Carroll, analyst with Stifel Nicolaus in Baltimore, called the raid “ominous” and downgraded WellCare shares to “sell” from “hold” in a note to clients. Contacts within the company said BlackBerries, computers and files were seized from corporate, marketing and human resources offices, according to Carroll.

    Carroll suspects the raid is potentially the result of a lawsuit in which an employee brought a matter to the attention of authorities.

    “When the FBI and HHS raid a health care company, the outlook on earnings, legal proceedings and the entire operations of the company can be questioned,” Carroll said.

    WellCare’s business practices have come under increased criticism over the past several months. Last spring, the company said independent sales agents in Georgia enrolled dead people in Medicare plans. In May and June, WellCare representatives appeared along with other insurance executives at hearings in the Senate and House into aggressive Medicare marketing practices. WellCare and six other insurers subsequently agreed to a temporary halt in marketing one type of Medicare plan, while promising to initiate consumer safeguards. In August, however, Medicare cited WellCare once again for violating several provisions of its Medicare contract, including sales practices.

    WellCare, which had earnings of $139.2-million in 2006, gets all of its nearly $4-billion in revenues from state or federal governments.
    WellCare’s PAC has donated considerable money to Republicans. But the company took off with a generous helping hand from George Soros:

    WellCare was a slow-growing Florida company until 1992 when its owner, Dr. Kiran Patel, sold it to a New York investment group led by financier George Soros. The bankers hired Todd Farha, an aggressive Harvard MBA, to transform the company. Under his leadership, WellCare’s earnings have increased eight-fold and the company’s investors and executives like Farha have profited handsomely from appreciation in its stock.
    Soros Private Equity Investors had owned about 80 percent of WellCare at the time of its IPO. “In December [2004], Soros Private Equity Investors sold 5.6 million shares for about $170 million. In April [2005], Soros spun off the $1.3-billion private equity group and the new firm was renamed TowerBrook Capital Partners. TowerBrook is headed by Neal Moszkowski, who previously led Soros Private Equity. Moszkowski also is chairman of the WellCare board.”

    Also on the board of directors: former Democrat U.S. senator and Florida governor Bob Graham.

  101. “Where were you when you came to the panicky realization that Hillary Clinton was right?”

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    LOL…I love that sentence. It should become a political mantra.

  102. confloyd,

    My first thoughts yesterday when I realized that not much had come out of Hillary’s visit to Russia was when would the finger pointing begin?

    Of course they are going to blame Hillary and not “he who sets policy” terrible as it is. Nobody said the media was smart. Nobody said the media wasn’t biased. Of course they won’t blame poor bambi. It was a set up big time to send her there.

    I have to think though that obama is reeling right now for being so stupid in thinking he could honestly broker anything with the Russians. It will be the same with Iran, China, and North Korea.

  103. Majority of Nobel jury ‘objected to Obama prize’

    OSLO — Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee had objections to the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to US President Barack Obama, the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG) reported Thursday.

    “VG has spoken to a number of sources who confirmed the impression that a majority of the Nobel committee, at first, had not decided to give the peace prize to Barack Obama,” the newspaper said.

    In a surprise move last Friday, the Nobel committee attributed the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama less than nine months after he had taken office. The committee, appointed by the Norwegian parliament, honoured Obama for “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.” “The committee was unanimous,” its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.

    But Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, who represented the right-wing populist Progress Party on the committee, led the way in objecting to the choice of Obama because she questioned his ability to keep his promises, the newspaper said.

    It also said the representative of the Conservative Party, Kaci Kullmann Five, and Aagot Valle, the representative of the Socialist Left, had objections.

    The choice for Obama was however strongly supported by committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland and Sissel Roenbeck, both representatives of the Labour Party.

    The members of the committee represent their parties but do not sit in Norway’s parliament. “Each year, we start with many candidates and many different points of view and agree as the discussions move along. This year was no exception,” Lundestad commented Thursday.

    The newspaper quotes Ytterhorn and Five as saying they both supported the committee’s final decision.

    Obama himself said he was “surprised” and “deeply humbled” by the prize.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gOy7GLcrP7iQja3yU5Zu4BHMqFdw

  104. Palestinians hopeful of condemning Israel at UN

    2009-10-15

    RAMALLAH, Oct. 15 (Xinhua) — Palestinian newspapers on Thursday reported a state of optimism among Palestinian diplomats that the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) will pass Gaza war report to the Security Council.

    The Geneva-based council has agreed to hold an exceptional session on Thursday and Friday to discuss the UN fact-finding mission’s report which accused Israel and Palestinian Hamas movement of serious violations of laws during Israel’s winter offensive in Gaza.

    On Wednesday, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) submitted a 5-page draft resolution condemning Israel for its violations in Dec. 27 to Jan. 18 Gaza military operation and the Israeli measures in East Jerusalem.

    The daily newspapers said that Palestinian and Arab diplomatic missions in Geneva believe that the UNHRC would raise a draft resolution to the Security Council to take actions against Israel and Hamas if they failed to carry out impartial and thorough investigations into the allegations of war crimes.

    The reports quoted a senior Palestinian official, speaking on condition of anonymity, that the council will pass the draft resolution which mostly condemns Israel and Hamas, the PNA’s rival. “Some members of the council might be absent but the number of members supporting the draft resolution would be bigger than the absentees,” the official said.

    On Oct. 2, the UNHRC delayed the voting on the report, which was conducted by a team led by Southern African Judge Richard Goldstone, to its next session in March. The decision outraged the Palestinians who sharply criticized their authority for upholding the delay.

    Eighteen states from the 47-nation council agreed to hold the exceptional session

    news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/15/content_12240585.htm

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    I hope they choke on their hatred.

  105. Look at Germany’s healthcare, this is what SOros/Obama want. Read it and you will know why they want it–MONEY! Buffett’s is no better (republican) its all about money! Hillary’s plan was the only one that would work!

    But these days, less is the operative word. The social solidarity that has traditionally underpinned the German healthcare system is looking increasingly frail. The basic problem is that German society is ageing, while its birth rate is sinking. This means that healthcare costs are rising while fewer people are paying into the system. (SOUND FAMILIAR???)

    Many believe that what the only way to rejuvenate the system is to expose it to market forces.

    Rising costs

    But this would mark a dramatic break with Bismarck’s original program. Made up of health insurance; accident insurance; disability insurance and an old-age retirement pension, it was based from the outset on the principle of solidarity: anyone who was employed was obliged to pay into the system and anyone who fell ill would receive medical care and a living allowance. The cost was divided between employers and the employed – the employers contributing one third, the workers two thirds.

    The ratio has changed since then – and so have many other aspects of the German health care service. The last 20 years alone have seen 14 health care reforms. While the initial health care restructuring was designed to provide more efficient and cost-effective healthcare services, the most recent reforms focus more on the structure of health insurance funds.
    One way or another, most of them have been bad news for the public. Personal contributions to dental care and medicine costs have gone up, and patients now have to pay a mandatory 10 euros ($14) per quarter whenever they go to the doctor.

    Dissatisfaction
    Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Private patients are more lucrative
    So although the German healthcare services are still more or less all-inclusive, the cracks are showing. And it’s not just patients who are noticing. Medical and healthcare professionals also say that conditions are worsening.

    “Everything has gone downhill,” says one nurse who works in a hospital in Bonn. “We all have less time, there are so many cuts, patients are dissatisfied, especially the elderly ones.”

    Doctors are also fed up, and say the system is flawed. Dorothee Keltz is a GP with a practice in Bonn. She believes it’s important to take the time to talk to patients, and resents the fact that insurers prefer to see doctors using technical equipment.

    “If one of my assistants does a cardiogram and we tell the patient what our findings are, we make three times as much money as we would if we spent 10 minutes talking to the patient,” she complains.

    Another problem is that doctors have had to start relying on private patients to stay afloat. In Germany, only 10 percent of the population has private, for-profit insurance – mostly civil servants and the self-employed. Increasingly, doctors are realizing that patients with state health cover are just not profitable enough.

    Patients as pawns

    Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The German health care is the fourth most expensive in the world

    Still, the stakes are high. The German health care system averages an annual turnover of over 250 billion euros, making it one of the nation’s most important economic sectors.

    It’s also a sector in which powerful interest groups from trade associations to pharmaceuticals companies are constantly jockeying for position. German Health Minister Ulla Schmidt is well aware of the tensions.

    “No other sector has the financial clout of the health service,” she says. “The amount of money spent on it exceeds the entire federal budget. The sector’s players are dealing with huge funds with which they can buy opinion, influence opinion and promote their products. In this respect it is patients themselves who are in the weakest position, even though they should be the strongest, because 70 million people in Germany have state health cover.”

    But the public is often little more than a pawn in a game, and has little insight into what is being spent and how. The new cornerstone for funding German health care spending is the controversial and highly complex ‘Gesundheitsfond’, the health care fund. Supposedly, it aims to simplify health benefits, provide more choices, increase transparency and create competition among providers.

    But its detractors believe that it fails to address the increasingly urgent issue of funding the enormous German system. It makes no mention of reducing cost, they say, but simply spreads the cost risk differently.
    In the wake of the financial crisis, saving costs has become more important then ever. After numerous attempts at resuscitation, the solidarity principle introduced by Bismarck could well be on its last legs, and Germany’s two leading parties cannot agree whether it should be kept on life-support.

    Social Democrat Ulla Schmidt, for one, would like to give it another chance and abolish private health insurance altogether. But ultimately, today’s social and economic forces are nudging Germany more in the direction of a healthcare system built on individual responsibility. The issue will certainly be on voters’ minds when they go to the polls this month.

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  106. Here is a few more tidbits about Soros. Its from Gurufocus.

    Some astute economic observers worry that Soros, who has repeatedly made major ripples on the international financial scene, could be up to more than just conventional trading and hardball and might cause America an unpleasant “surprise” by pulling strings and causing “marketplace disruptions” on the economic front. There has been speculation on this for the past two years!

    Still others in the upper echelons of the legal professions have suggested that Soros now has the power to sway Asian investors, particularly China, to reinvest the profits from the burgeoning US trade deficit into Central Europe and Eastern Europe, instead of having it flow back into US government backed securities, which is slowly forcing the fed to keep raising interest rates. His recent forays into Singapore are indicative of his efforts to shift opinions of Asian investors and central bankers according to some sources.

    Some have compared George Soros to a Rockefeller or Carnegie, but by manipulating currencies and speculating with other people’s money, has he really produced anything of lasting value? Is Russia today any more open than it was ten years ago? Does money still flow to the highest potential yield on investment and has anyone beat the world record of $1 billion profit in a single week of trading? Is Soros looking to pull off another coup and break the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States with such recent pronouncements that the real estate market will bust in 2007 as the Fed continues to raise rates too high over too long a period?

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    If he is funneling the money to Europe, then he is trying to get us to inflation, which could be the beginning of a true depression worse than the one in 30’s. How this man has not been thrown UNDER the jail for insider trading is beyond me. The got poor Martha Stewart, yet not this devil, how can this be???

  107. # gonzotx Says:
    October 14th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Collins and Snowe must go. Two dogs IMHO.

    I am not so sure this health care will ever be enacted. Passed yes, enacted, maybe not if we can get enough buffoons out of the congress.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Most definately! Snowe has to go. She has been a PIA for years. When legislation untoward the public is coming down for a vote; she can be counted on to habitualy add her poison vote to further poison the well.

  108. Mrs.Smith, its excerpts from a long article in Gurufocus. This much there about Soros.

    I have been researching since 4am. I was taken aback by Biden bs this morning and I realized what this whole thing is about. I would call it clash of the titans. I will talk to wbboei today about what I have found.

    Soros has been quietly investing in healthcare since about 2000′, he also has some pretty shadow institutions which he owns controlling interest in according to the FBI. Anyway, I will talk to Wbboei today.

  109. confloyd Says:
    October 15th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Mrs.Smith, its excerpts from a long article in Gurufocus. This much there about Soros.

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    Yes, I know, confloyd. I don’t want to read the whole site, just that article…

  110. Can anyone tell me what assets are left in America?? There is no steel industry, manufacturing is gone. What I can think of is military and its subsiduaries, healthcare and its offshoots, and energy and its off shoots. Is there anymore??

  111. LEADER OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY DITHERS, LEAVING SUPERMAJORITY LOOKING NOT SO SUPER

    Crowley nicely reveals flaws we have known about for a LOOOOng time.

    Couple of money quotes:

    “Mr. Obama’s own protracted dithering has allowed the Democrats’ divergent stands to become a story, which in turn, will only make his final decision more difficult. ”

    “The lack of presidential leadership on these issues has created openings for members of Mr. Obama’s party to argue among themselves. If he had directed each of these debates with a strong hand, Democrats would have had less time and inclination to commit fratricide.”
    washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/14/supermajority-fight-club/#

    Supermajority fight club
    ================
    (Public disapproval stirs intraparty tug of war)

    By Monica Crowley

    It wasn’t supposed to be this hard for the Democrats. In January, they swept into the White House and took supermajorities in both houses of Congress. Intoxicated by their newfound power and leverage, they believed they had entered liberal nirvana, where their sheer numbers and political momentum would enable them to steamroll the opposition and pass whatever legislation they wanted.

    Little did they know that the opposition they had to worry about wouldn’t come from Republicans, but from their own ranks. Democrat-on-Democrat mayhem threatens to turn the party into a political fight club.

    Democrats also are learning that having a Democratic president doesn’t matter much if he doesn’t instill party discipline, particularly on issues as important to them as health care, Afghanistan and “cap-and-trade.

    On health care reform, more liberal Democratic members of Congress, from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi of California to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia insist that a government-run public option be included in a final bill. House Blue Dog Democrats, concerned that any reform costs would contribute to an already out-of-control national deficit, are dragging their heels on Obamacare.

    Many Democrats have unanswered questions about the bill that was passed by the Senate Finance Committee Tuesday on a 14 to 9 vote: How can you give away a $1 trillion new entitlement and argue with a straight face that it won’t involve new costs? How could the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score it accurately last week ($829 billion over 10 years) when it’s merely a phantom bill with no legislative language in it yet? How can they vote for a bill that hasn’t factored in the cost increases that will occur when businesses offload their insurance responsibilities by throwing their employees into the ranks of the uninsured, paying the new fines instead of continuing to provide insurance?

    Even if you take the CBO’s numbers at face value, what about the exponential costs that will explode in the second 10 years? What about the approximately 25 million people left uninsured by the bill? Won’t we still have to pay for their medical care if they walk into a hospital emergency room? How will the legislators sell a bill to voters that includes significant tax increases on the middle class (in the form of stiff penalties for non-coverage, higher premiums, and on medical devices like wheelchairs and new mothers’ breast pumps) while the “benefits” don’t kick in for three years? And how about reading the bill before voting on it?

    Most Democrats may, in the end, fall in line behind whatever kind of legislative sausage emerges. But the intraparty fault lines that have emerged during the health care battle mean that Democratic unity on other issues may be even harder to achieve.

    On Afghanistan, for example, Mr. Obama’s extended indecision about whether to fulfill Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal’s request for 40,000 additional troops has created the space for another Democratic food fight.

    Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. supports fighting the war like it’s a video game: with a technology-based counterterrorism focus rather than Gen. McChrystal’s troop-based counterinsurgency emphasis. Last week, Mrs. Pelosi rolled her eyes and recoiled when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid suggested that Democrats would support whatever decision the president made on new troop deployments. This week, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin said flatly, “Don’t send more combat troops.”

    But California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the mission in Afghanistan is in “serious jeopardy” and advocated sending more troops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton also has signaled support for a troop surge, as have Sens. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent, and Ben Nelson, Nebraska Democrat.

    Mr. Obama has both a military and a political choice to make, and his own party isn’t coalescing around a course of action. If anything, Mr. Obama’s own protracted dithering has allowed the Democrats’ divergent stands to become a story, which in turn, will only make his final decision more difficult.

    And on cap-and-trade, Democrats again are sprawled all over the map. The party is deeply divided over the legislation, which barely passed the House and has taken an even more aggressive form in the Senate under the sponsorship of Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Barbara Boxer of California. Many liberal members are pushing for stricter cuts in greenhouse gases, while many Democrats from rural, manufacturing and coal-producing states are throwing the brakes on it. Self-proclaimed socialist Sen. Bernard Sanders of Vermont argues that the bill needs to be made “stronger,” while Mr. Rockefeller of coal-rich West Virginia said of the Kerry-Boxer bill: “I am against it.”

    The smooth sailing the Democrats envisioned for their agenda has hit choppy waters, and it’s not just because of the party’s traditional internal brawling, described so well by Will Rogers: “I’m not a member of any organized party. I’m a Democrat.”

    The lack of presidential leadership on these issues has created openings for members of Mr. Obama’s party to argue among themselves. If he had directed each of these debates with a strong hand, Democrats would have had less time and inclination to commit fratricide. Just as important, even as they indulge in their own intraparty strife, they continue overall to push policies such as Obamacare and cap-and-trade that a majority of Americans don’t support.

    As President Lincoln once said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” particularly when that house is on the wrong side of the American people.

  112. Mrs. Smith, I managed to find it.

    h t tp :// www .guru focus.com /news .php?id=1116

    Speculation surrounding Soro’s Transparency.

    Its any wonder who taught BO how to hide what his real agenda is, Soros has been hiding his for years. He does it by layers, upon layers of foundations, people, charity projects and company over seeing other companies. They can’t figure out who is in charge. Thats why he is not in prison now.

  113. “Mr. Obama has both a military and a political choice to make, and his own party isn’t coalescing around a course of action. If anything, Mr. Obama’s own protracted dithering has allowed the Democrats’ divergent stands to become a story, which in turn, will only make his final decision more difficult.”

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    Maybe they should start having their discussions on the golf course. Then at least he can vote “present.”

  114. Is Warren Buffett and leftie or a rightie, I can’ t figure it out. Some say he is a leftie, but doesn’t he own FOX news??

  115. Paula Says:

    October 13th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    I thought that Steve Kornacki column was fine. I agree with him that Hillary has a real shot in 2016 if she wants it.
    &&&&&&&&&
    hillaryis45.org, anyone? anyone? Beuhler?

    Yes, it was a well written article about Hillary’s strengths.

  116. Hillary Clinton is finally more popular than Barack Obama, new Gallup poll shows

    BY Michael Mcauliff
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
    Thursday, October 15th 2009,

    Hillary Clinton is finally more popular that Barack Obama, for the first time ever, Gallup informs us Thursday.

    The Secretary of State is sitting at an enviable 62% favorable rating, compared to the President’s not-too-shabby 56%.

    Clinton says she no longer thinks about the top job, so it would seem her new found popularity is a year too late.

    But, we do recall that just a little more than a year before she ran for President, she told us she wasn’t even interested in moving back to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    And she does have about $3 million in her political accounts. So for Hillary fans old and new, ya never know.

    nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/10/15/2009-10-15_hillary_clinton_is_finally_more_popular_than_barack_obama_new_gallup_poll_shows.html

  117. And her becoming more popular than obama is exactly why the media is trying to strike her down again. This time using Russia.

  118. OK, thanks, confloyd, got it-

    it’s easier to post the link right away when sometimes you need context for perspective..

    Thanks again, for finding it..

  119. confloyd Says:
    October 15th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Speculation surrounding Soro’s Transparency.

    Its any wonder who taught BO how to hide what his real agenda.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hiding comes naturally to Obama. He was a quick study under Soros. Which means he was easily corruptible because he doesn’t know any other way to do things. He really is a sad representative for our United States.

  120. May she rest in peace

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    In Memoriam: Political activist Lili Rachel Smith, 15, daughter of Democratic insiders “Ace” Smith and Laura Talmus

    Lili Rachel Smith, whose spirited refusal to accept the bounds of physical disability won her the friendship and admiration of some of the nation’s top political leaders, died unexpectedly this week in her sleep, her family said. She was 15.

    Smith was the daughter of leading Democratic political consultant Averell “Ace” Smith and his wife, veteran Democratic fundraiser Laura Talmus of Kentfield. One of the most feared political opposition researchers in the country, Ace Smith ran Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaigns in several states including California, as well as Antonio Villaraigosa’s 2005 campaign for Los Angeles mayor, and the 2006 campaign of State Attorney General Jerry Brown.

    Smith family

    Lili Smith, 15, activist
    “Lili Smith was a beautiful girl..taken from her family and friends far too soon,” said former President Bill Clinton, who befriended the girl during the 2008 presidential campaign, in an email to The Chronicle Tuesday. “As Hillary and I got to know her…we were increasingly amazed at her endless capacity for kindness and generosity. An advocate and role model for other children living with disabilities, Lili never let her own disability keep her from living her life and touching the lives of others. She was a wonderful person who will be greatly missed.”

    Born with a rare condition, Apert’s syndrome — a congenital disorder characterized by malformations of the skull, hands and feet — Lili Smith required extensive and often painful surgeries at birth and at regular intervals during her life.

    Undaunted by her physical challenges, Smith — with the strong encouragement of her parents and older brother, Abram, 19 — became an energetic activist in social and political issues and a seasoned campaign insider, working with her father in Texas on Clinton’s behalf during the 2008 presidential campaign.

    In a family steeped in politics, Smith distinguished herself and won countless admirers by proving “the most natural politician of them all,” recalled Democratic consultant Dan Newman, a longtime partner with Smith in the San Francisco-based firm SCN Strategies.

    At one point in the 2008 presidential race, the girl confidently “reassured Hillary Clinton that the candidate was in good hands with her Dad running her California operation,” Newman said. “Before long, there were Lili-Hillary bumper stickers” with Lili listed first “of course,” Newman said.

    Smith family

    Democratic strategist Peter Ragone, who traveled to three states with the Smiths during the 2008 presidential race, marveled that Smith, despite her youth, wasn’t intimidated in the least by being “on a first name basis with two of the most famous people in the world.”

    And many of Smith’s friends in top political circles came forward this week to express grief at her passing.

    San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris,the 2010 Democratic candidate for State Attorney General whose campaign is managed by Ace Smith, said Tuesday that Lili Smith “was a completely fearless go getter, a beautiful and elegant young woman who carried herself with dignity and grace, excited by life…and I am going to miss her terribly.”

    Villaraigosa told The Chronicle Tuesday that the Smith daughter was “a source of strength and inspiration” who was “poised and mature beyond her years…and a blessing to everyone who came in contact with her.”

    Dolores Huerta, co-founder of the United Farmworkers, said Tuesday that Lily “was a wonderful example to special needs children. She was self-assured, she knew who she was — a beautiful example that you can be out there in front…and the credit goes to her parents, for the way they raised her.”

    Smith also became an energetic activist for causes she believed in — including equality, human rights and global injustices, friends and family said. Her bat mitzvah ceremony included a speech lauding Harris for creating a “city of refuge” for women, many of them ex-prostitutes and victims of domestic violence. Smith called for more such programs.

    As a member of the Marin County Youth Leadership Commission, Smith also became an advocate for children with special needs in the Marin County School District.

    Before becoming a freshman at the Scattergood Friends School in Iowa this year — where she died of natural causes last weekend — Lili attended Marin Montessori School, Bacich Elementary School, Kent Middle School and Forest Knowles Academy as a home schooled student.

    Services will be held at Congregation Rodef Sholom, 170 N. San Pedro Rd., San Rafael on Friday, October 16th at 10 am. Graveside services follow at Mount Tamalpais Cemetery.

    The family has requested that to honor of their daughter’s commitment to social issues, contributions may be made to the Clinton Global Initiative (New York, NY), the Breast Cancer Fund (San Francisco, CA) and Scattergood Friends School (West Branch, IA).

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=49501&tsp=1

  121. confloyd Says:

    October 14th, 2009 at 3:59 am
    Has anyone seen this?
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    Great info on The Fraud committing fraud.

    After impeachment and removal from office, will he reside in Joliet Correctional Facilities?

  122. Article on seniors not getting a COLA i know a lot of seniors who are mad. A lot have health issues. They are saying the 250.00 want cut it. Already some of their prescriptions have gone up.

    I told some the goverment don’t care about you. You are a burden to them. You are living too long.

    All voted for O.

  123. JanH Says:

    October 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    A little more…

    Clinton: I’d have hired Obama

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday that if she had won presidential election, Barack Obama would “absolutely” have served in her Cabinet.
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    What Obama’s job would have been?

    Secretary of Community Organizing?
    Chairman of Chicago 2016 Olympics Committee?
    Ambassador to Saudia Arabia?
    Czar of Animal Control?

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