Obama Screws America; Obama Gets Nobel Gold

Update: The Nobel farce helps Big Pink make the point that narcissistic celebrity Obama is gifted what he does not deserve. Obama worshipers are now forced to see what we have been saying for years about Obama: “You haven’t done nothing.”


We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you’ll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you

But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!


Doo doo, wop.

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Once again, America can’t even get the Olympic bronze, but Barack Obama gets the gold. Obama personally profits, American continues to sink.

Today the Nobel Peace Prize turned itself into a piece of bling-bling junk.

The Associated Press headline said it all: For What?

He won! For what? [snip]

He has no standout moment of victory that would seem to warrant a verdict as sweeping as that issued by the Nobel committee.

And what about peace? Obama is running two wars in the Muslim world — in Iraq and Afghanistan — and can’t get a climate change bill through his own Congress.

His scorecard for the year is largely an “incomplete,” if he’s being graded.

Even Saturday Night Live knows Obama has done NOTHING! Jack Squat.

What about peace?

He banned torture and other extreme interrogation techniques for terrorists. But he also promised to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a source of much distaste for the U.S. around the world, a difficult task that now seems headed to miss his own January 2010 deadline.

He said he would end the Iraq war. But he has been slow to bring the troops home and the real end of the U.S. military presence there won’t come until at least 2012, and that’s only if both the U.S. and Iraq stick to their current agreement about American troop withdrawals.

He has pushed for new efforts to make peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. But he’s received little cooperation from the two sides.

He said he wants a nuclear-free world. But it’s one thing to telegraph the desire, in a speech in Prague in April, and quite another to unite other nations and U.S. lawmakers behind the web of treaties and agreements needed to make that reality.

He has said that battling climate change is a priority. But the U.S. seems likely to head into crucial international negotiations set for Copenhagen in December with legislation still stalled in Congress.

Clearly Norway bureaucrats are unaware of Obama’s flailing poll numbers in the United States – unless the Nobel committee is aware Obama is sinking and they are trying to prop up a celebrity. The bureaucrats in neighboring Denmark know Obama was and is a fizzle:

And what about Obama’s global prestige? It seemed to take a big hit last week when he jetted across the Atlantic to lobby for Chicago to get the 2016 Olympics — and was rejected with a last-place finish.

Perhaps for the Nobel committee, merely altering the tone out of Washington toward the rest of the world is enough. Obama got much attention for his speech from Cairo reaching out a U.S. hand to the world’s Muslims. His remarks at the U.N. General Assembly last month set down new markers for the way the U.S. works with the world.

But still … ?

The Nobel Peace Prize used to be an honor. It is now debased. Earlier winners had actually accomplished great works, not just treacly words. Even Obama thugs know this once glorious honor is undeserved. David Axelrod when told many people are “stunned” by the announcement responded “As are we.” The Nobel is now an embarrassing international joke:

Critics — some in parts of the Arab and Muslim world — called the committee decision premature. [snip]

Obama is the fourth U.S. president to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize after Jimmy Carter won in 2002, Woodrow Wilson picked it up in 1919 and Theodore Roosevelt was chosen for the 1906 prize.

Issam al-Khazraji, a day laborer in Baghdad, said of Obama: “He doesn’t deserve this prize. All these problems — Iraq, Afghanistan — have not been solved . . . man of ‘change’ hasn’t changed anything yet.”

Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing “joke”.

Previous Nobel Peace Prize winners are the International Committee of the Red Cross, the American Friends Service Committee, Albert Schweitzer, Dag Hammarskjold, Linus Pauling, Martin Luther King Jr., the United Nations Children’s Fund, Willy Brandt, Andrei Sakharov, Amnesty International, Anwar al-Sadat and Menachem Begin, Mother Teresa, Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Lech Walesa, Desmond Tutu, Eli Wiesel, United Nations Peacekeeping forces, International Physicians for The Prevention of Nuclear War, and Nelson Mandela and F.W. de Klerk.

The above are people and organizations who actually accomplished something, often at great cost to themselves. Some, like Anwar al-Sadat paid for the award with their very lives.

Now to that long list of estimable laureates, add Obama the Clown.

The truly great Lech Walesa won the Peace Prize in 1983 in the midst of a great struggle to liberate Poland, lift up the human rights of the Polish people, and destroy the Evil Empire which was the Soviet Union. Walesa went to jail and his country invaded, but Walesa won the battle and the Evil Soviet Empire crumbled. Walesa’s Peace Prize is now devalued by a Clown getting the award:

The deadline for nominations for the prize was Feb. 1 — two weeks after Mr. Obama was inaugurated.

“So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far,” former Polish President Lech Walesa, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983, said Friday. “He is still at an early stage.”

The Nobel Peace Prize Committee joins the once great Democratic Party at the junkyard, rusted and useless.

Even in Norway, where Mr. Obama enjoys huge popularity, the decision raised eyebrows among some. “It is just too soon,” said Siv Jensen, leader of Norway’s main opposition party, the Progress Party. “It is wrong to give him the peace prize for his ambition. You should receive it for results.”

She said that the decision to bestow the award on the president was the most controversial she could remember and was one of a number that had moved the prize further away from the ideals of Alfred Nobel.

Others made the same point in somewhat more diplomatic language. Amnesty International, which won the peace prize in 1977, congratulated Mr. Obama but said he couldn’t stop there.

Of course if Obama had to produce results in order to get a prize, he would never get one.

Far from being an award, this is an embarrassment which highlights the total lack of accomplishment of Obama. Here at Big Pink we do think Obama deserves Olympic gold and Nobel recognition as a flim-flam man greater than Madoff or Abramoff or Music Man Professor Harold Hill.

The Nobel Peace Prize is now an absurd mockery:

The award of this year’s Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself. [snip]

Instead, the prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronising in its intentions and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely begun his period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for peace. [snip]

There is a further irony in offering a peace prize to a president whose principal preoccupation at the moment is when and how to expand the war in Afghanistan.

The spectacle of Mr Obama mounting the podium in Oslo to accept a prize that once went to Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi and Mother Theresa would be all the more absurd if it follows a White House decision to send up to 40,000 more US troops to Afghanistan. However just such a war may be deemed in Western eyes, Muslims would not be the only group to complain that peace is hardly compatible with an escalation in hostilities. [snip]

It is certainly true that his energy and aspirations have dazzled many of his supporters. Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all previous winners have been diminished.

The Nobel Prize to Obama The Clown assures us that the Academy Awards will now honor Pauly Shore, the Grammy music award will go to a garbage truck, the Pulitzer to Archie Comics, the Westinghouse Award for Chemistry to the local lemonade stand, and the Congressional Medal of honor to a cook injured in the line of peeling a potato.

The only award Obama deserves is a shiny, big, round, rubber, nose.

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198 thoughts on “Obama Screws America; Obama Gets Nobel Gold

  1. In 1920 the Nobel Prize was awarded to a man named Neut Hampson. On the odds, you have never heard of him. But during that decade, he was the toast of the literary world. Hemingway, Wolfe, Steinbeck, Dos Passos all revered him, and tried to write like him. His writing was harsh, unadorned and brutal in my opinion, but that is probably what appealed to all of them. A decade later he was a non person. That is because he and Ezra Pound were the two leading intellectuals in Europe who sided with Hitler. What is my point? Simply this: the Nobel Committee is hardly infallible when it comes to whom they award their jack in the box awards to and that is certainly true in this case. I could just as easily argue that when you push religion out of the public square entirely, people find secular gods to worship and sometimes you end up with Hitler. In other cases you end up with Carter–a prior recipient of that award.

  2. On behalf of the Norwegian population, I apologize!!!
    Please don’t think this reflects on the average Norwegian, this is a committee of 6 people, and with a new leader of this year, which have obviously been a bad influence on this committee.
    We are all asking ourselves what were they thinking?? What has he done to deserve this? (answer: NOTHING).

    We are mostly embarrassed that the committee has chosen to diminish the reputation of this award in such a manner, for the first time in my life I AM embarrassed to call myself a Norwegian, my heart is crying. This is just fu**ed up!!! This committee should take their hats and leave.

    My only hope now, is that Obama will escalate the war (and all presidents have a tradition of starting a new war…sadly) and if he does, the Nobel committee have no choice but to retraced the reward, which is a rule in the Nobel testament, which would be rather fun, as the embarrassment would be complete.(for Obama)
    oh well, once again, I’m sorry, but this doesn’t reflect the peoples opinion! -Gorto.

  3. Wbboei, there is a couple of paragraph in the clinton tapes where President Clinton worries and says he thinks someday the Chinese will persuade a sitting POTUS to ammend our constitution to look alot like the Chinese one.

    I think his name is Obama. President Clinton has amazing skills to see future events.

  4. confloyd Says:

    October 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
    Al Gore said he was extremely well deserving.
    &&&&&&

    Deserving of what?

    Impeachment? Removal from office?

  5. I wonder how much was paid for this award. I am still dumfounded that this sham of a person could receive this award. He should really decline it, but he probably thinks that he deserves it.

  6. Gorto, thanks for reinforcing our belief that Norwegians have not gone nuts. The Nobel Prize has been a force for good in years past. When oppressed leaders, like Walesa, were in prison for their fights against oppression and for the better angels of the human spirit, the Nobel Peace Prize gold has penetrated prison walls.

    Keep the pink light on in Norway, which all America, all the world looked to as an example, years ago.

  7. I wouldn’t hold Gore’s comments against him. He cant’ exactly go on TV and say Obama is undeserving. No Dem will publicly say that, believe me, but virtually all of them are thinking that privately.

  8. http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/10/meet_the_people_who_were_passe.asp

    Meet the People Who Were Passed Over for Obama

    Sima Samar, women’s rights activist in Afghanistan: “With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women’s Affairs.”

    Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.

    “Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence.”

    Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: “These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon.”

    “Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for ‘inciting subversion of state power.'”

    “Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China’s communist system. He now lives in the United States.”

  9. Yes Al Gore was deserving of the award. Obama not. Al Gore said Obama was deserving of the award.

    Yes Obama deserves impeachment.

  10. thanks wbboei, been a long time! I just got depressed after the election, I’ve been looking for silver linings for a hope somewhere that Hillary can still one day assume the position she should have gotten. But met with bad news once more today.
    I can only imagine what she might feel of this. If any presidents have deserved this it is Bill, he runs a peace center, he travels to the forgotten places all around the globe. What has the clown done??? Just an embarrassment.
    But on one surprising note, the media actually agrees with us it seems, finally someone is asking:But what has he done?? And coming from the MSM that’s a change! Too bad the Nobel committee didn’t watch SNL the other day, they could have learned something.

  11. Has anyone seen his acceptance speech? He is really is stuck on himself. This award will really make his narcissistic personsality go into overdrive.

  12. Hi all….. alot is going on with me right now, haven’t been online in weeks and the first chance i get was today and damn if i don’t wish i hadn’t…. this Nobel Peace Prize BS has made me Ill beyond words!!

    after a bit of digging i have come across this that is posted on the NPP website on the “who can submit nominations” section I have not seen this section mentioned here or anywhere yet…

    The Nobel Committee makes its selection on the basis of nominations received or postmarked no later than February 1 of the year in question. Nominations which do not meet the deadline are normally included in the following year’s assessment. Members of the Nobel Committee are entitled to submit their own nominations as late as at the first meeting of the Committee after the expiry of the deadline.

    upon further digging, there are two new committe members added just this year!!

    while checking out who each of these members are a common theme run amok!
    THEY ARE LEFTISTS!……COMMUNISTS!

    I am sure there is more one could find out about them with proper resources and digging.

    ADMIN???
    who do they have a connection with??

    excellent article by the way!…so many i have missed 🙁

  13. Thank you for that video admin, I haven’t seen that before, and have never heard Märtha’s voice before, thanks.

    I don’t believe Obamas ego can take any more worshiping, this is silly. The peace prize is supposed to shine light to people and placed that are in desperate need for help. Obama has more than is healthy for any one man. What about Desmond Tutu? Nelson Mandela? Mohamed Yunus? Aung San Suu Kyi, dalai lama, mother Theresa, they have the scars to show for it!! Obama has only his ego to show.
    Most of us thought a columbian senator(don’t remember her name) would get it… too bad.
    I actually think even oprah might feel this is a little over the top, and you know it’s bad if oprah has had enough.

  14. The Nobel for Narcissism

    h t t p://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2QzNzMzZTRjZTE3NjEyYzkzOTI5MDJmZjZhMGJhZmM=

  15. djia, just for your information, almost all are LEFTIST in Norway, the people farthest to the right in norway, are still way left compared to the ones in the USA. We just reelected a socialist government(yes one of the three parties in this government is called the socialists). Guess what? It works for us. Socialist doesn’t really have the same meaning in norway as it does in america.

    But good job anyway of finding out that there are two new members this year. And believe me, one of them are already taking some heat and he has to spend a lot of time answering for himself!

  16. PLAYING BY THE RULES:

    Gordo above wrote:

    My only hope now, is that Obama will escalate the war (and all presidents have a tradition of starting a new war…sadly) and if he does, the Nobel committee have no choice but to retraced the reward, which is a rule in the Nobel testament, which would be rather fun, as the embarrassment would be complete.(for Obama)
    &&&&&&&

    so their rules are that the prize can be retracted. Schweet.

    After that’s retracted, we can follow up that humiliating exercise by havig the Supreme Court rule that he is not constitutionally eligible to be president due to him not being able to prove he was born in the US.

    I am not a “birther”. I am a US citizen who knows what the constitutional requirements are, and I am not satisfied with what meager “proof” has been provided by him so far. Even McDonald’s would have to turn him down. “But it’s on my website, barackwantstoworkatmcdondalds.com”

  17. Just on Yahoo. GM signs a big deal to sell Hummer to the Chinese. Here it is folks the autioning off of America. I told you this was going to happen. Obama will destroy the constitution in the name of PEACE.

    Curiosityhasme, I agree.

  18. Gorto

    Thanks for that information.

    sorry but i have to run back to the hospital now…. (for my mom)
    I may not be back today, but will check in again tomorrow.

  19. Yes the rules are, that if he were/or anyone else, to act in a way which is in the opposite direction of peace, the award WILL be taken away from you. There are guidelines, if they are not followed, there will be consequences.

    Birdgal, I love conspiracies, they are much more interesting then the truth, but no. There are strict laws, this is supposed to be an unaffiliated group of people, they follow the rules, only allows for personal interpretations. No one could have paid these people money in, I believe 2005 when wangari matai won, for planting trees!!! Hardly a big funded group behind that one!

    This is just a sad case of a few people who wants to feel special, and in their views will get to meet a celebrity and think they themselves will have become meaningful people. Sad and pathetic. Honest! No politician or influential people get to these people, they are independent, and I must say, usually does a good job. Just a case this year of small people wanting to feel bigger and more important. sad….

  20. LIFTED FROM ERIC MEYER:
    Yo Barack, I’m really happy for you and Ima let you finish but Dalai Lama is the best peacemaker of all time! OF ALL TIME!

    =======================

    Aw, maybe that’s why Obama wouldn’t talk to the DL.

  21. Gorto Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    “We are all asking ourselves what were they thinking?? What has he done to deserve this?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Welcome back, Gorto. I remember you were present early on at the birth of Big Pink.

    What has Obama done to deserve the Nobel?

    He is on track destroying America as is the plan of the elites, namely, George Soros.

  22. …Here it comes, right on schedule…

    Obama’s Nobel: The Last Thing He Needs

    h…. //news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091009/us_time/08599192939500

    The last thing Barack Obama needed at this moment in his presidency and our politics is a prize for a promise.

    Inspirational words have brought him a long way – including to the night in Grant Park less than a year ago when he asked that we “join in the work of remaking this nation the only way it’s been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years – block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.”

    By now there are surely more callouses on his lips than his hands. He, like every new president, has reckoned with both the power and the danger of words, dangers that are especially great for one who wields them as skillfully as he. A promise beautifully made raises hopes especially high: we will revive the economy while we rein in our spending; we will make health care simpler, safer, cheaper, fairer. We will rid the earth of its most lethal weapons. We will turn green and clean. We will all just get along. (See pictures of eight months of Obama’s diplomacy.)

    So when reality bites, it chomps down hard. The Nobel committee cited “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.” His critics fault some of those efforts: those who favor a missile shield for Poland or a troop surge in Afghanistan or a harder line on Iran. But even his fans know that none of the dreams have yet come true, and a prize for even dreaming them can feed the illusion that they have. (See the Top 10 Obama Backlash Moments)

    Maybe the prize will give him more power, new muscles to haul unruly nations in line. But peacemaking is more about ingenuity than inspiration, about reading other nations’ selfish interests and cynically, strategically exploiting them for the common good. Will it help if fewer countries come to the table hating us? To a point. But it’s a starting point, not an end in itself.

    At this moment many Americans are longing for a president who is more bully, less pulpit. The president who leased his immense inaugural good will to the hungry appropriators writing the stimulus bill, who has not stopped negotiating health care reform except to say what is non-negotiable, whose solicitude for the wheelers and dealers who drove the financial system into a ditch leaves the rest of us wondering who has our back, has always shown great promise, said the right things, affirmed every time he opens his mouth that he understands the fears we face and the hopes we hold. But he presides over a capital whose day-to-day functioning has become part-travesty, part-tragedy, wasteful, blind, vain, petty, where even the best intentioned reformers measure their progress with teaspoons. There comes a time when a President needs to take a real risk – and putting his prestige on the line to win the Olympics for his home town does not remotely count.

    Compare this to Greg Mortenson, nominated for the prize by some members of Congress, who the bookies gave 20-to-1 odds of winning. Son of a missionary, a former army Medic and mountaineer, he has made it his mission to build schools for girls in places where opium dealers and tribal warlords kill people for trying. His Central Asia Institute has built more than 130 schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan – a mission which has, along the way, inspired millions of people to view the protection and education of girls as a key to peace and prosperity and progress.(See an interactive guide to Obama’s first 100 days.)

    Sometimes the words come first. Sometimes, it’s better to let actions speak for themselves.

  23. Maybe he won because the committee thought that he had suffered greatly last week after his humiliating loss to the IOC.

  24. From the above article:

    “The Nobel committee cited “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”

    hahaha! It was HILLARY who WON the AWARD…. not Obama…

  25. JbStonesFan, Bill Clinton has actually accomplished many deeds worthy of recognition. The Clinton Global Initiative adds to his courageous actions to save Muslims in the Balkans and bring actual PEACE to Ireland. But those were accomplishments and so in the Obama Age of Fake not worthy of a Nobel.

  26. Even the Obama worshipers can’t believe the nobel prize news. Obama lover Peter Beinart is also calling it a “farce” even as he trys to say that Obama opponents are all conservatives.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-09/obamas-nobel-farce/?cid=hp:mainpromo1

    I had always thought the way these things worked was that you helped bring peace or democracy to some corner of the globe first, and then you won the Nobel Prize. But this year, the Nobel Committee has turned that logic around: It clearly likes what Obama is trying to do: on nuclear disarmament, climate change and Middle East peace—and so, in a “preemptive” strike, it’s giving him the award now, in hopes that doing so will boost his chances of success later. It’s an interesting idea. Perhaps next they’ll start giving Oscars not to the people who have made the best movies of last year, but to the people who have the best chance of making the best movies next year. After all, once you’ve already made the movie, you no longer need the encouragement.

    I like Barack Obama as much as the next liberal, but this is a farce. He’s done nothing to deserve the prize. Sure, he’s given some lovely speeches and launched some initiatives—on Iran, Israeli-Palestinian peace, climate change and nuclear disarmament—that might, if he’s really lucky and really good, make the world a more safe, more just, more peaceful world. But there’s absolutely no way to know if he’ll succeed, and by giving him the Nobel Prize as a kind of “atta boy,” the Nobel Committee is actually just highlighting the gap that conservatives have long highlighted: between Obamamania as global hype and Obama’s actual accomplishments.

  27. I wonder if this paints him into a corner, and ties his hands on taking any agressive moves internationally. If it does, he will either become more mute, or he will have to go against the intent of the award. Either way it is kind of a big problem.

  28. Of course, Obama isn’t turning the prize down. How typical. That’s a great piece by Peter Beinart, BTW. At first I was furious he got an award he has no business receiving at this point in his presidency. Now I’m simply enjoying the ridiculousness of the whole thing. It is quite amusing, actually.

  29. # NewMexicoFan Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I wonder if this paints him into a corner, and ties his hands on taking any aggressive moves internationally. If it does, he will either become more mute, or he will have to go against the intent of the award. Either way it is kind of a big problem.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Good point, NMF. And could be the reason he is stalling sending more troops to A-stan. I read an article yesterday reported by an Apache Chopper pilot. He has never seen anything like the strength and violence of insurgents penetrating the perimeters of our troop’s campsites.

    The firestorm inflicted by the insurgents resulting in a fireball leaving nothing but cinder and rubble of the shelter constructed for our troops encamped in the Afghan valley. The insurgents were firing from the mountainside down on our troops without cover or manpower to deal with the attack. He did the best he could to rescue what was left of our soldiers… Deaths not accounted for as of yet.

  30. Doesn’t this gratuitous prize to BO just confirm that there is an invisible internationalist push for BO and his policies? I sense that they have plans for him to head the UN or some other international organization after he serves either one or two terms as POTUS. BO is their magical puppet in bringing about their desired economic and geopolitical structural changes the world over.

  31. We updated the article with a Friday night video:

    Update: The Nobel farce helps Big Pink make the point that narcissistic celebrity Obama is gifted what he does not deserve. Obama worshipers are now forced to see what we have been saying for years about Obama: “You haven’t done nothing.”


    We are amazed but not amused
    By all the things you say that you’ll do
    Though much concerned but not involved
    With decisions that are made by you

    But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
    Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
    ‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
    “You haven’t done nothing”!


    Doo doo, wop.

  32. The Affirmative Action Nobel Peace prize.

    AKA the Jack Squat Premature Peace Prize.

    Unearned, undeserved and now worthless.

  33. I am kind of upset about this as I thought the luster was finally wearing off…..how can anyone with a straight face say he deserves this. I hope he has to join the stage with the Israeli WOMAN who won the Nobel for chemistry .

  34. …so many of us grew up…me for one…in awe of an award like ‘the Nobel Peace Prize’…wow…what a goal…what an achievement…

    …when the primaries smashed many of our ideals on how the so called ‘liberals/progressives’ behaved in reality…a big chunk of that awe for ‘doing good in the world’ just evaporated because people once revered were seen to be phonies and fakes and HYPOCRITES…you all remember all the examples liberals (LIEberals) being the worst misogynists, racists…etc – etc – etc…INTERGRITY gone…

    …the Nobel Peace Prize going to O today just brings the collapse of all that former integrity full circle…

    …I had held out hope for Hillary being awarded this award…in maybe a year or two down the road after the signing of some important treaty…something that had taken genuine diplomacy and forged and CREATED peace…something that actually took hard work that resulted in success…

    …and god knows that Bill Clinton is long overdo for an award that supports and recognizes bringing Peace to this world…

    …NOW…as Gorto and others have said…this prize is forever diminished and will be thought of as a joke…especially after the people on the list above were skipped over to give it to this ambitious, narcissistic do-nothing…

    …the Nobel Peace Prize has been pimped (or maybe punked)…its value plummeted today…

    …O even knows he has not done anything in reality to deserve this honor…and tried to use humor to deflect his lack of accomplishment…

    …I do think this will backfire…even supporters are aghast…today I was going into an elevator in a prestigous building in the center of intense Democratic supporters neighborhood, and as i got on that was all everyone was talking about and they were PISSED…everyone has the same reaction…For what? He hasn’t even been in office for one year!!!

    …later, I stopped at the supermarket and I heard the same chatter…”It’s too soon…he has not done anything yet”

    …happened to hear Limbaugh on the radio on the way home and he was saying what one of the commenters here said…that the voting took place in Feb, 2009 and choose O then…about two weeks after O took office…so the nobel committee really had nothing to base giving this award to O on except O’s campaign speeches and…wishful thinking…like the rest of the koolaid believers…if this voting process is true…then they may very soon be regretting diminshing their once prestigious award…

    …especially if O expands the wars…and there is a report today stating that 60,000 new troops are needed in Afghanastan…

    …today…the Noble peace committee are the laughing stock of the world…everyone is wondering what the hell were THEY thinking?

    …as for O…people who are being kind are saying “It’s too soon”…

    …realists living in the real world are saying “for what? this is a joke! He has not done anything yet”

    I guess it will all be downhill from here…they can’t give it to him twice…oh, wait…maybe they plan on giving it to him every year while in office…since they seem to be making unusual exceptions for ‘him’…

  35. http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/obama-and-the-nobel-peace-prize/#comment-152615

    I read (as apparently many other global observers have also) the announcement of the selection of Barack Obama as a 2009 prize recipient with the utmost disbelief. Surely, I thought, this was someone’s misguided attempt at humor. I mean honestly, this person was in his present position for approximately two weeks before the nomination deadline. Exactly what were the accomplishments of that two week period that made him nobel worthy, more so than other who have been endeavoring similarly in the fields you credit to Obama for many, many years. Even if the selection was to include his single term as a legislator, I still challenge you to produce a record worthy of Nobel consideration, let alone a prize. I am familiar with his record, and I submit there is none.

    There is another explanation. A very sad one. I believe the Nobel organization has sold, no worse, given away their credibility as an organization and diminished the value of the awards they bestow as another victim of the global cult of personality that swirls around Obama’s politically popular ethnicity.

    They have done a tremendous disservice to prior laureates, and others around the world whose legitimate efforts continue to go unrecognized.

    The Nobel organization has lost my respect.

  36. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/09/tommy-seno-obama-nobel-prize-win/

    Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. Over the last decade the only requirement to win the prize was that the nominee had to be critical of George W. Bush (see Al Gore, Mohamed El Baradei and Jimmy Carter).

    President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.

    Let’s take a look at the president’s first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:

    January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.

    January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an “open house” party at the White House.

    January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how’s that working out?)

    January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

    January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

    January 25: Skipped church.

    January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner’s swearing in ceremony.

    January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

    January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

    January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

    January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

    January 31: Took the day off.

    February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

    So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

    Good grief.

  37. We are having the balloon Fiesta here this week. I went out for lunch at a small local restaurant. Seated next to us were some people from out of town, balloonists. five people. One of them said, “Did you hear, OO has won the Nobel Prize”. A women in the group said, WHAT FOR

  38. We are having the balloon Fiesta here this week. I went out for lunch at a small local restaurant. Seated next to us were some people from out of town, balloonists. five people. One of them said, “Did you hear, OO has won the Nobel Prize”. A women in the group said, WHAT FOR

  39. anyway, I was not finished. Someone else in the group said quickly, those award have become worthless. Another at the table stated, he was put in for it after only 2 weeks in the job. A lot of people feel this way.

  40. And Kristof isn’t exactly an Obama critic, either. The Nobel committee that voted on this must’ve had zero idea what kind of reaction this would engender. I’d like to read the transcript of what Obama said today on this. Can admin post it?

  41. People on the blog should take heart. I never know any award to have gone so badly for anyone. The people he was up against, really did something, and many placed themselves in personnel danger.

  42. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28129.html

    President Barack Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize is quickly turning from a singular honor into a gold-medal headache, as even supporters call it premature and critics say it proves he’s a darling of the international elite. [snip]

    “With this ‘award’ the elites of the world are urging Obama, THE MAN OF PEACE, to not do the surge in Afghanistan, not take action against Iran and its nuclear program and to basically continue his intentions to emasculate the United States,”Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO.

    At a time when Obama faces critical choices on Afghanistan, Guantanamo and other sensitive national security issues, the Nobel Committee’s action does revive Republican arguments that Obama is beholden to global elites looking for a dramatic break from the policies of President George W. Bush.

    It could also remind some of a critique of Obama dating back to the presidential primary — that he is praised more for his rhetoric than his actions, more for his air of celebrity than any tangible accomplishments.

    The collective shock around Washington about the award also seemed to reflect the new perception of Obama – that he has proven to be something of a political mortal, even a conventional politician.

    His deal-cutting and compromises on foreign policy and even domestic priorities such as health care often seem starkly at odds with the idealistic tone of his campaign. The Gitmo decision is a prime example – after campaigning for two years on closing the prison for terror suspects, Obama has been forced to acknowledge he’ll probably miss his one-year deadline to do so. [snip]

    If it seems a bit dated, that could because it is. Nobel nominations were due by Feb. 1 — just 12 days after Obama took office. It’s not clear who nominated Obama. [snip]

    However, the committee pointed to no concrete achievement of his fledgling presidency.

    “I think the White House is correctly sensitive to the growing perception in the country that President Obama has been heavy on hype and light on solid, tangible accomplishments during his first year in office,” said veteran GOP strategist Mike Murphy. “Unemployment is way up, healthcare is becoming a partisan shambles, Afghanistan is growing more difficult. It’s hard to see how a star-struck Nobel committee giving him the prize based on his first sixty days as President does much to fight that show-horse perception.”

    Even devoted Obama backers expressed amazement and a sentiment that the award was premature for a president who cannot yet point to any notable triumphs in the arena of foreign affairs — that the whole thing felt like a breathless fan letter from the European elite to the notion of Obama as a man of peace.

    “At this point, Barack Obama is like the kid who gets a Porsche for his sixteenth birthday. It’s wonderful but where can you go from there?” William Jelani Cobb, Professor of History, Spelman College, wrote in POLITICO’s The Arena. [snip]

    Cobb and other analysts said the prize could complicate some of the decisions Obama faces.

    “But to the extent that a Nobel Peace Prize can make your life more difficult this does. . . . Now he’s a Nobel laureate. But coming as he weighs his options for Afghanistan this may be, or at least seem, like an attempt to influence policy? How does a Nobel Peace Prize winner order more troops into war?” Cobb said.

    On the other hand, if Obama makes any but the most hawkish choices on Afghanistan, the Nobel award will dovetail neatly with the right’s contentions that the president has put assuaging world opinion ahead of a hard-headed assessment of America’s interests.

    Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele said Obama’s receipt of the reward was regrettable. “The real question Americans are asking is, ‘What has President Obama actually accomplished?’ It is unfortunate that the president’s star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and human rights,” Steele said. [snip]

    Many TV reports on the award Friday morning were delivered with a smirk and an air of disbelief.

    When the dust settles, the biggest loser could be the credibility of the Nobel Committee itself.

  43. Thanks Portlandon for that list. We were working on compiling a similar list.

    Also congratulations to those speculating about the Nobel prize earlier this week in the comment section – you were right and those of us who thought such a ridiculous thing could never happen were proven wrong.

  44. Thanks admin, God knows I want to see more of Hillary than this O farce!!

    I’m so ashamed and embarrassed I can’t believe it.

    People have always thought of norway as just some place in sweeden, and us norwegian(ancesters) have always tried to climb up from behind that rock and let the world know that we are our own country, but today, I wish I could hide away as a swede for a day or a year.

    I cannot believe the committee would risk throwing away their credibility, sadly I enjoyed and agree with your post S!! totally agree!

  45. admin Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Hillary having fun:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    admin: Conan making a 3 am phone call to Hillary to resolve a dispute between Conan and Mayor Booker.. Hill-arious!

  46. Gorto Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    No worries, Gorto.

    We as Americans hope the world doesn’t hate us for the vanity on display by the ‘ignoramus’ we call president.

  47. Gorto, sunset in Narvik is still one of the glorious places in the world. We still love Norway. No one should blame Norway for some bad apples in the Nobel Committee.

    [sorry we could not find the Jackson 5 version]

  48. Just saw a rag sheet at the grocery store, which said that MO is mad as Hell at Oprah. She blames her for the Olympic sizzle, and says she embarressed the President.

    If that is true, MO is in trouble. You don’t mess with Oprah.

  49. haha, thanks admin, good to hear.

    I’m off to bed now, when I wake up in the morning I’ll be hoping this was all just a bad dream.

  50. ps. I read something over at hotair. com, they quote rush limbaugh actually mimicking something they have been saying in the media over here. This can be the only good thing to come of all this.
    here’s the quote:
    “That Nobel was not a gesture of Obama-worship by left-leaning Norwegians. It was the very opposite: It was a pre-emptive strike against Obama, an attempt to neutralize him. How can a Peace Nobelist strike Iranian nuclear plants? Or wage a protracted war in Afghanistan? Or tell the Palestinians, “Sorry, that’s the best offer, take it or leave it”? The hope of course is that he cannot.”

    hotair. com/archives/2009/10/09/limbaugh-on-the-nobel-theyre-trying-to-get-him-to-stand-down-in-afghanistan/

  51. I heard he was giving the money to charity, I wonder which one?? Acorn or other community organizing group or maybe he will give it back to SOros to offset the price Soros paid to get the award for the dimwit.

  52. “…unless the Nobel committee is aware Obama is sinking and they are trying to prop up a celebrity.”

    “The Nobel Peace Prize used to be an honor. It is now debased. Earlier winners had actually accomplished great works, not just treacly words. Even Obama thugs know this once glorious honor is undeserved”

    “It is wrong to give him the peace prize for his ambition. You should receive it for results.”
    ———————-

    Yes! Yes! & Yes!

    I waited patiently Admin, and you didn’t let me down.

    Amazing article! This is backfiring on bambi big time. I don’t think this is quite what he had in mind for today’s news…lol…worse and worse.

    —————————-

    Gorto,

    Welcome back. You all have my sympathies over there.

  53. No one is talking about the Chinese buying the Hummer brand, so now when we replace the ones we will need for a war, we will have to buy them from the Chinese.

    What do you all think about Obama selling off the assets of the nationalized companies now??

  54. This is leading to a very slippery slope. I do not trust this guy. He comes from no where, does nothing, gets selected for the Presidency, get a nobel prize for doing nothing. Something is seriously wrong with this picture.

  55. confloyd,

    It looks as if bambi is selling America to China, genuflecting to all Muslim nations, and letting Russia push it around.

    Is there anyone who can stop him?

  56. The prize award was “Anti-Race Card Insurance for Denmark.I am sure they are well aware of what BO has in mind as he builds his black empire.Maybe its their form of ridicule of the American political agenda.

    Bt ABM90 Keep your eyes and ears tuned to Hillary and her diplomatic skills as she goes on her tour for peace..

  57. portlandon Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Thanks for the laugh a minute video…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    SNL should be a hoot- BO’s ego has given them soooo much material to ridicule 🙂

  58. “The prize award was “Anti-Race Card Insurance for Denmark”

    ———————

    ABM90.

    I’m sure that was a large part of it. I’m also sure that once the shock wears off, all the koolaid dims and bots will use the race card over and over again if anyone dares to diss their king for getting the prize. It’s only a matter of time.

  59. Well this was Friday’s newsday dumb and his getting the nobel prize was the perfect cover to dumb the story of Obama selling GM’s Hummer to the Chinese. I wonder how many of the taxpayers nationalized companies will evenually find themselves being owned by foreign governments, especially the Chinese.

    Brazil is already buying up our Tyson chicken farms, and will probably close them and we will be forced to eat chicken from Brazil and more people will be out of work, especially those unskilled ones that work at the slaughter houses. Its the Obamaeconomy!!

  60. portlandon,

    Great list.

    And Big Pink does it again with the most excoriatingly accurate comments on the web.

    Could you imagine how we would all feel if we didn’t have 44????????

  61. For your comedic pleasure and god(dess) knows we could all use a laugh today.

    From French nail at NQ – a collection of Nobel-Jack Squat cartoons.

    europumas dot over-blog dot com/

  62. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

    From hillbuzz:

    Patricia Melton of Mineral City awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature. “But, I didn’t even write a book,” a stunned Melton exclaims.

  63. confloyd Says:

    October 9th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
    No one is talking about the Chinese buying the Hummer brand, so now when we replace the ones we will need for a war, we will have to buy them from the Chinese.

    What do you all think about Obama selling off the assets of the nationalized companies now??

    —————————————————————————————————-

    This is not really new. It was in the news over the summer, but I heard today that GM received $150 million for the Hummer brand, instead of about 500 million that they thought they might get.

  64. BREAKING NEWS… the Nobel Peace Prize committee regrets that the actual recipient of the award was somehow lost in translation…

    in fact, the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize has been awared to TOPUS…the Teleprompter of the President of the USA…

    …for providing endless words and inspiration toward peace and hope and change…

    yes you can, TOPUS…

  65. If O had one pinch of grace in that presumptious body and brain of his…he would show real humility and offer the Nobel Peace Prize to someone on that list that was nominated who have worked for years and put their life on the line to accomplish their recognition…

    for example…he might say, I hope to be worthy of the prestigious award, however I have not yet accomplished what I hope to do, having said that i would like to see:

    Sima Samar, women’s rights activist in Afghanistan: “With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women’s Affairs.”

    Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.

    “Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence.”

    Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: “These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon.”

    “Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for ‘inciting subversion of state power.’”

    “Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China’s communist system. He now lives in the United States.”

    …receive the award at this time…

    …that would show true humility and actually garner some respect from me…but no, not this guy…he and MO are already for the next european stage…

    …maybe there will be protests in Norway…O should be ashamed of himself to go there and pontificate…

  66. Bill Clinton or Bono not Obama deserved Nobel Prize

    By Niall O’Dowd

    The Nobel Prize committee has decided to punish George Bush by awarding his successor the Nobel Prize. That is the only conclusion I can come to when the head-scratching verdict of this year’s Nobel Prize winner was announced.

    The hatred for Bush was profound in Europe and it seems the global outreach Obama has done since he took office a mere 10 months ago has achieved mythical status already in Europe. The widespread approval for Obama’s policy is warranted, the Nobel Prize is not. Frankly where are the great foreign policy achievements?

    Compare Obama to former President Bill Clinton whose global initiative has stemmed the tide of AIDS in Africa, has raised billions to fight previously incurable diseases and who dedicated himself in office to solving the Middle East – almost – and Northern Ireland where he played an invaluable role in the peace process there.

    Or think of Bono the global crusader for Africa who like Clinton on Africa has raised hundreds of millions for the cause and energized millions of young people to think beyond themselves and give back to the world.

    Both men would have been profound and deserving choices for the Nobel Prize.

    Last month I interviewed former Irish president and UN Human Rights chair Mary Robinson about the impact of Barack Obama since he took office.
    She immediately referred to his now famous Cairo speech where he reached out to the Muslim world and carried the olive branch that had been missing during the Bush era. Robinson had been traveling in the area during the period on her own humanitarian work and had been well-placed to assess it.

    She said the speech had been transformative and overnight the image of America had shot up in countries where under Bush it had been at its lowest point ever.

    I thought of that conversation when the Nobel Prize committee awarded its top honor to President Obama. I understand where they are coming from – mainly delivering a belated kick in the pants to former President George Bush I think, but it is far too early.

    Obama has been wonderful on rhetoric but understandably short on delivery as he has been in office less than a year.

    In the Middle East it has been very tough going,with no tangible success In Afghanistan and Pakistan the war drums still beat.

    In Iraq a shaky civilian government still has much to prove.

    It may well be that in a few years Obama will have brought peace and stability to those war torn regions. But the Nobel Prize this year has been awarded for rhetoric not results.

    Bill Clinton and Bono have a reason to be annoyed.

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/col/NOdowd/Bill-Clinton-or-Bono-Not-Obama-Deserved-Nobel-Prize-63841857.html#

  67. “in fact, the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize has been awared to TOPUS…the Teleprompter of the President of the USA…”

    ————————
    LMAO!

  68. Can you just imagine how the other nominees feel? You know the ones who actually accomplished big things and deserved it?

    My heart goes out to them.

    The Nobel Peace Prize has now been damaged beyond repair. I would think that no one, including the Clintons would want this plastic prize in a crackerjack box trophy in the future.


  69. This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I’d been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

    To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who’ve been honored by this prize — men and women who’ve inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

    But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it’s also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

    That is why I’ve said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won’t all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it’s recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

    This award — and the call to action that comes with it — does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

    So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we’ve begun together. I’m grateful that you’ve stood with me thus far, and I’m honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

    ===================

    Good rush job by the Groping Speechwriter.

    6 am? I bet they didn’t have to wake the Groping Speechwriter up. He was probably still up, groping.

    6 am? I bet they didhn

  70. From National Review Online:

    Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Jack Danforth tells NRO that President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize is “completely ridiculous.”

    “What has he done?” asks Danforth, a former Republican U.S. senator from Missouri. “In eight months, if anything, what he has done is make himself popular with Europe, at least according to the polls. It’s a joke.”

    “He’s announced the closing of Guantanamo Bay,” says Danforth. “He’s announced that he’s getting rid of enhanced interrogation. He’s announced he’s getting out of Iraq. He’s clearly revisiting his prior commitment to Afghanistan. And, on various occasions, he’s gone around the world apologizing for the United States. That’s what the Europeans like to hear.”

    “This is totally laughable,” says Danforth. Citing the Nobel committee’s high praise, Danforth says he worries about President Obama’s hubris. “My concern is that the president actually believes these things about himself,” he says. “This is part of the apotheosis of Barack Obama. The president is already pretty taken with himself. Now, he gets the Nobel Peace Prize. It’s just further encouragement.”

    What should the president say when he goes to Oslo? “He sure doesn’t need my advice,” says Danforth. “He’s the orator of all orators. I’m sure it will be fabulous oratory, and yet another example of telling Europe what it wants to hear.”

  71. birdgal, thanx, I hadn’t realize it was old news, but I find it interesting that the price has gone from 500 million to 150million.

    I am sure that all of those companies he nationalized will be sold off to China a various other countries.

  72. confloyd Says:

    October 9th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
    birdgal, thanx, I hadn’t realize it was old news, but I find it interesting that the price has gone from 500 million to 150million.

    ————————————————————————————–

    The lower cost was surprising, but when a company is in trouble, bargaining power is compromised. This has been a strange day.

  73. The peace Prize…well let’s say it lost some glimmer when they gave it to Arrafat…
    *****************

    All Soro’s bought and paid for… remember the primaries, couldn’t’t take the bitch slapping from the Olympic committee, now he sends out the clowns, this one from a land that rolled over for the Nazi’s . And before anyone says I don’t have a dog in this show, I am 1/2 Norwegian by blood. I have no delusions about Norway. I pic’s of my great uncle from Norway all dressed up in his finest Nazi attire… Hell, it has one of the biggest Muslim communities in all of Europe!

    Saturday, April 18, 2009
    Norway: “Norwegian culture threatened by Muslims”

    Norway: “Norwegian culture threatened by Muslims”

    Steinar Lem is a Norwegian Leftist who recently started off a public debate with his article, posted on the Human Rights Services site (in Norwegian), in which he called to stop non-Western immigration to Norway. The following is an interview in Dagbladet about his article, followed by a response from Thomas Hylland Eriksen, fellow Leftist.

    ———

    “Oslo will soon have a majority of non-Western background, at a steady rate the same could happen all over the country during this century. Most non-Westerners will have a Muslim background. The consequences will be dramatic.”
    ****************

    More @ the article blogspot.com/2009/04/norway-norwegian-culture-threatened-by.html

    Fu*k it’s Christmas everyday in Obamaland!

  74. I just read over at NO Quarter a link to the thought of Naomi Klein which is said to be an Obama supporter which I really doubt. SHe is a peace activist and thought she had Mr. Peaceful. She definitely says that he is not doing what he promised and is actually destroying the Kyoto Protocol. I don’t like what she says about Israel, but I do believe what she says about George Soros. So why they are saying she is an O supporter is beyone me. I think Kucinach fits her ideals more.

  75. I forgot to say she said Obama should not have gotten it and was shocked and is trying to figure out WHY is was chosen when so many other very deserving people should have gotten it.

  76. Barack Obama and the Temple of Doom
    —Ace
    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom caused a furore (classy) because it was 1) pretty lame, but mostly 2) because it featured violence which had previously earned a film an R-rating, but the MPAA rolled over for St. Steven and gave him his PG.

    Some people agitated this was unacceptable, and that such strong material (strong? it seems quaint now) should either get an R, or an in-between rating for a film halfway to R should be created.

    And so shortly after was created the PG-13 rating. Red Dawn was, I think, the first film so rated.

    Anyway, from what I’ve read today, the Norwegian parliament is given control over creating the actual Nobel Peace Prize committee.

    I figure there is some outrage even in Norway over what is supposed to be an award for actually, you know, advancing peace or human rights being rewarded for no other reason than pure brazen fellow-traveler puffery.

    So… I think there’s a damn good shot that a right-leaning party in Norway introduces a bill to reform the Nobel Prize Committee and insure the prize is given for the purposes originally intended, rather than be debased further as some grotesque leftist beauty pageant.

    Not predicting it will be adopted — but predicting it will be proposed.

    And that will be pretty embarrassing for President Prissypants — to be so obviously inappropriate and unacceptable a choice so as to provoke legislative corrective.

  77. I’ve been laughing at this all day — but that list of passed-over nominees made me cry. Literally cry out in pain.

  78. some of soros media operatios;

    Soros Finances Media Empire

    Media Monitor | By Cliff Kincaid | March 22, 2006

    Lately, Soros has been talking down the American economy, saying the U.S. dollar is weak and that we could slide into recession in 2007. Of course, he could help bring that about through his global financial manipulations.

    Billionaire and convicted inside trader George Soros has proposed what he calls “an annual issue of Special Drawing Rights (SDR) that rich countries would donate for international assistance.” The SDR idea is a variation of a global tax to finance more foreign aid. SDRs, created by the International Monetary Fund, have been defined as a form of international reserve currency intended to “supplement the existing official reserves of member countries” in transactions with the IMF. What Soros proposes would greatly alter and expand their use. As someone who has developed a reputation for practicing financial and economic warfare against the nations of the world, he seems determined to drain more wealth away from the United States.

    What is also fascinating is that a column in which Soros makes this proposal is available on the website of “Project Syndicate,” an emerging Soros-supported media empire.

    Project Syndicate claims to consist of 257 newspapers in 113 countries, with a total circulation of 39,323,478. It is funded by “member papers in developed countries,” as well as the Open Society Institute of George Soros, Politiken Foundation, based in Sweden, and the Die Zeit Ebelin und Gerd Bucerius Foundation, based in Germany.

    In another column distributed by the Project Syndicate, Soros declared, “I consider using an issue of SDRs preferable to the Tobin tax (a proposed tax on international currency transactions) for a number of reasons, the most important of which is that a special SDR issue was already authorized in 1997 and ratified by 71% of IMF members. It could be used for international assistance immediately, if the US Congress also ratified it, and developed countries pledged their allocations for that purpose.”

    Lately, Soros has been talking down the American economy, saying the U.S. dollar is weak and that we could slide into recession in 2007. Of course, he could help bring that about through his global financial manipulations.

  79. Obama lover Ruth Marcus at the Washington Post:

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/10/a_nobel_for_a_good_two_weeks.html

    This is ridiculous — embarrassing, even. I admire President Obama. I like President Obama. I voted for President Obama. But the peace prize? This is supposed to be for doing, not being — and it’s no disrespect to the president to suggest he hasn’t done much yet. Certainly not enough to justify the peace prize.

    “Extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples?” “[C]aptured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future?” Please. This turns the award into something like pee-wee soccer: everybody wins for trying.

    Scroll down the list of peace prize winners. Jimmy Carter won in 2002 “for his decades [emphasis added] of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts.” Last year’s winner, Martti Ahtisaari, was cited “for his important efforts, on several continents and over more than three decades [emphasis added], to resolve international conflicts.”

    Obama gets the award for, what, a good nine months? Or maybe a good two weeks — the nominations were due Feb. 1. The other two sitting presidents who won the prize –Woodrow Wilson in 1919 for founding the League of Nations, Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 for negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese War — were in their second terms.

  80. been a long time! I just got depressed after the election, I’ve been looking for silver linings for a hope somewhere that Hillary can still one day assume the position she should have gotten. But met with bad news once more today.
    ———————————-
    Gorto, I believe Hillary will be President of the United States. I suspect she is disappointed that this award was not given to one of the several deserving people who earned it based on actual accomplishments. Ex malo bonum however because this has teed up the issue of whether he has earned all the accolades given to him when he has achieved nothing. It gives any honest person in the media a vehicle to raise the question whereas before they would only be attacking themselves. It forces them to deal with results. Today on another blog I said this is the end of virtual reality for him. We shall see if I am right. Also, it makes it harder for a man of peace to support a policy of war to achieve peace. He would have been smart to refuse the prize and tell them to give it to ham once he has achieved something. But self denial is not in his nature

  81. well said wbboei! This puts him between a rock and a hard place. Will be difficult for him to escalate the war…. But it seems inevitable that he will, so I just don’t get this. But as you say, this forces all to deal with results and it will be an end to the virtual reality for him(I hope).

    But this will be agonizing to live through, do you know who will be hosting the nobel peace prize concert???

    WILL SMITH! and Jada Pinket Smith, as if Obama wasn’t full of himself before, it will not help to have two fawning actors being all over him…..
    I like Will Smith as an actor, but he has always seemed to have a big ego, imagine how I feel about O?? Will is nothing in comparison to him, boy this is just gonna be a love fest won’t it!..

    I pray you are right about Hill, she actually does something rather then talk about doing it. What a contrast!

  82. wbboei, Here is another interesting article about Soros from Maulkin;

    Democratic Platform’s hidden Soros slush fund

    Michelle Malkin
    BrookesNews.Com
    Monday 25 August 2008

    The Democratic Party platform is like a bag of pork rinds. You never know what high-fat liberal government morsel you’re gonna get.

    Buried in the 94-page document is a noble-sounding proposal to create a “Social Investment Fund Network.” The program would provide federal money to “social entrepreneurs and leading nonprofit organizations [that] are assisting schools, lifting families out of poverty, filling health care gaps, and inspiring others to lead change in their own communities.”

    The Democratic Party promises to “support these results-oriented innovators” by creating an office to “coordinate government and nonprofit efforts” and then showering “a series of grants” on the chosen groups “to replicate these programs nationwide.”

    In practice, this Barack Obama brainchild would serve as a permanent, taxpayer-backed pipeline to Democratic partisan outfits masquerading as public-interest do-gooders. This George Soros Slush Fund would be political payback in spades. Obama owes much of his Chicago political success to financial support from radical, left-wing billionaire and leading “social entrepreneur” Soros.

    In June 2004, Soros threw a big fundraiser at his New York home for Obama’s Illinois Senate campaign. Soros and family personally chipped in $60,000. In April 2007, Obama was back in New York for a deep-pocketed Manhattan fundraising soiree, with Soros lurking in his shadow.

    No doubt with Soros’ approbation (if not advice from the hands-on “progressive” activist or his advisers), Obama fleshed out his Social Investment Fund Network plan last December. In concert with his mandatory volunteerism pitch and $6 billion anti-poverty plan, Obama called for the creation of a “Social Entrepreneurship Agency” to dispense the funds in unspecified amounts.

    The agency would be a government-supported nonprofit corporation “similar to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting,” which runs public television. (And we’ve all seen how fair and balanced that lib-dominated, Bill Moyers-boosting private-public enterprise turned out.)

    Obama cites the Harlem Children’s Zone, which provides after-school activities and mentors to children in New York, as an example of a program that should be funded. (HCZ’s former senior leader Shawn Dove is now an official at Soros’ Open Society Institute.) The problem with such initiatives, as Mitchell Moss pointed out in the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal several years ago, is that these private-public partnerships formed under the guise of economic renewal often become nothing more than fronts that coordinate “an enormous safety net for social services.”

    Private donations give the illusion of self-help and philanthropic independence, but in reality, the “clients” are never weaned from the teat of the welfare state. They simply learn how to milk it more efficiently. Even more troubling is how the Democratic Party/Obama plan would siphon untold millions or billions of public tax dollars into the Soros empire without taxpayer recourse. Obama promises “accountability” measures to ensure the money is spent wisely. But who would assess effectiveness of the spending? Why, experts in the social entrepreneurship community, of course. Fox, meet henhouse.

    Soros has donated some $5 billion of his fortune to left-wing nonprofit groups through the Open Society Institute — an institution committed to Soros’ militant ideology of toppling the “fascist” tyranny of the United States, which he says must undergo “de-Nazification” in favor of “justice.” The mob at Obama-endorsing MoveOn, purveyors of the “General Betray Us” smear against Commanding General, MNF-I, David Petraeus, is the most notorious Soros-backed political arm.

    But scores of other activist nonprofits have received Soros funding under the guise of doing nonpartisan “community” or “social justice” work — and it is exactly such leftist activist groups that would be first in line for the Democratic Party/Obama’s “social investment” seed money. Point in case: ACORN. As I’ve reported before, Obama’s old friends at the Chicago-based nonprofit now take in 40 percent of their revenues from American taxpayers. They raked in tens of millions in federal antipoverty grants while some of their operatives presided over massive voter fraud and others were implicated in corporate shakedowns and mortgage scams across the country.

    Soros has donated at least $150,000 to the group, according to Investor’s Business Daily, and “heads a secretive rich-man’s club called ‘Democracy Alliance’ that has doled out $20 million to activist groups like ACORN.”

    Once the spigot is turned on, there’s no turning back.

    Where are fiscal conservatives on this far-left boondoggle? Well, if you’re wondering why the McCain campaign doesn’t raise hell over this proposed left-wing nonprofit/government pipeline, it’s because McCain himself is a Soros beneficiary. His “Reform Institute,” a tax-exempt, supposedly independent 501(c)(3) group focused on campaign finance reform, was funded by the Soros-funded Open Society Institute and Tides Foundation.

    Birds of a Big Government feather flock together — and look out for each other. Watch your wallet

  83. wbboei, This is why we wont be send any more troops to Afganistan to irradiate the rest of Alqueda and Taliban. THis is also what we will be doing soon instead of the American constitution in favor of the AmericanUnion.

    h tt p:// www. youtube .com /watch?v =iPwG0eb

  84. … Bibi is mobilized and in motion. Putting the US on notice and giving the UN an ultimatum. If Obama wants to play Peacenik, he had better believe voting “present” isn’t an option…

    Iran: Israel’s threats inexplicable

    h… w… ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3787724,00.html

    Iran’s ambassador to UN demands Security Council take steps against comments made by Ephraim Sneh, who said Israel would attack Iran if sanctions weren’t in place by Christmas

    Iran’s ambassador to the UN, Mohammad Khazaee, sent a letter of protest to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moonin which he wrote that “there is no explanation for Israel’s continuing threats against Tehran”.

    He was referring to an interview given by former Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh to the Sunday Times in which he said that if Iran were not further sanctioned by this Christmas Israel would attack the country.

    Sneh told the paper that if Israel were forced to attack the Islamic Republic on its own it would do so, remarks the Iranian ambassador deemed “irresponsible”.

    He said he hoped the UN would take steps against such comments. “Remarks such as these, stated once in a while by Israeli leaders, are no more than sorry excuses aimed at avoiding supplying answers regarding Israel’s nuclear arsenal and deflecting public awareness from the crimes and terror Israel commits in the region,” he said.

    Khazaee once again stressed that his country’s nuclear program was intended for peaceful purposes and said that “the only threat in the region is Israel’s nuclear arsenal, which remains unsupervised to this day.”

  85. It’s just like the idiot to start things and then run when the going gets tough, leaving countries in a mess and taking no responsibility. If he leaves Afghanistan without finishing the job, this will be the worst decision he has made so far.

    At the other end of the spectrum, I do wish he would just butt out of Israeli affairs. He is a worse than useless mediator with huge biases against the only democratic country in the mix.

    If Israel is pushing on Iran, it’s only because bibi knows that bambi would rather sit down with Iran’s monsters and have tea and crumpets than do anything to hurt their little feelings. This whole idea of having to wait almost 3 weeks to go into Iran to check the nuclear facilities is beyond ridiculous.

  86. Here’s a little story about how Soros did recently during the downturn of the economy.

    THE SOROS INVESTMENT YEAR:

    Positions I took were too big for ever more volatile markets

    Although I positioned myself reasonably well for what was coming last year, one thing I got wrong cost me dearly: there was no decoupling between markets of the developed and developing worlds.

    Indian and Chinese stocks were hit even harder than those in the US and Europe. Since we did not reduce our exposure, we lost more money in India than we had made the year before. Our Chinese manager did better by his stock selection; we were also helped by the appreciation of the renminbi.

    I had to push very hard in my macro-account to offset both these losses and those incurred by our external managers. This had its own drawback: I overtraded. The positions I took were too large for the increasingly volatile markets and, in order to manage my risk, I could not go against the market in a big way. I had to try to catch minor moves.

    That made it difficult to maintain short positions. Although I am an experienced short-seller, I got caught several times and largely missed the biggest down-draught, in October and November.

    On the long side, where I stuck to my guns, I lost an enormous amount of money. I was impressed by the potential in the new deep-water oilfield in Brazil and bought a large strategic position in Petrobras, only to see it decline by 75 per cent at one point in time. We also got caught in the developing petrochemical industry in the Gulf.

    We did get out of our strategic long position in CVRD, the Brazilian iron ore producer, in time for the end of the commodity bubble and shorted the other big iron ore groups. But we missed an opportunity in the commodities themselves – partly because I knew from experience how difficult it is to trade them.

    I was also slow to recognise the reversal of fortune for the dollar and gave back a large portion of our profits. Under the direction of my new chief investment officer, we did make money in the UK, where we bet that short-term interest rates would decline and shorted sterling against the euro. We also made good money by going long on the credit markets after their collapse.

    Eventually I understood that the strength of the dollar was due not to people choosing to hold dollars but to their inability to maintain or roll over their dollar obligations. In a very real sense the strength of the dollar, like the fever associated with sickness, was a measure of the disruption of the financial system. This insight helped me to anticipate the downturn of the dollar at the end of 2008. As a result, we ended the year almost meeting my target of 10 per cent minimum return, after spending most of the year in the red.

    Interesting. First he claimed, “I positioned myself reasonably well for what was coming last year.” Yet, in the conclusion he wrote “we ended the year almost meeting my target of 10 per cent minimum return, after spending most of the year in the red.”

    Doesn’t sound to me like he positioned himself well for what was coming last year if he was down until the dollar collapsed at the end of November.

    In fact, as his 3rd quarter and 4th quarter 13F filings reveal, his equity holdings did VERY poorly.

    This was also VERY telling:

    That made it difficult to maintain short positions. Although I am an experienced short-seller, I got caught several times and largely missed the biggest down-draught, in October and November.

    So, he wasn’t even SHORT when the market collapsed last year?!?

    And, something he neglected to tell his readers was how he took a HUGE position in Lehman Brothers months before it went bankrupt.

    Add it all up, and Soros didn’t accurately position his investments at all for his bearish, gloom and doom predictions, for the bulk of his profits came WELL AFTER the collapse began and was achieved via a short position in the U.S. dollar which sold off at the end of November more than two months after the crisis started.

    As such, not only was he long stocks during one of the biggest crashes in American history — as opposed to being short as the top traders and hedge funds in the world were!!! — but he also missed last year’s HUGE commodities rally.

    Granted, if he did indeed finish the year with almost a ten percent gain as he stated, that’s a fine performance in such a down year.

    However, for someone who claimed to be “positioned reasonably well” for what was coming, given the extraordinary rally and eventual collapse in commodities, and the crash in stocks, he should have done FAR better than up almost ten percent, and shouldn’t have needed a position taken at the end of the year to get him back in the black.

    That all said, I can’t wait to see how the various shills in the blogosphere who are funded by this America-hater are going to support his profiteering while so many are suffering, and am anxious for the personal attacks on me for having the gall to question their benefactor.

  87. JanH, the stupid liberals are stuck in the 80’s when Iran helped us and the mujadeen run the Soviets out of Afganistan. They still think Iran will help and are not threat. Ahmendinijob was’nt even on the job then. Iran can not be trusted.

    I am looking for the video this morning about when Zbig just loves the chinese. THis will tell us why we will be more like China in the coming years.

  88. just a quick thought before heading out for the day…

    …to put this NPP in perspective…the current news reports are stating that 10,000 – 60,000 troops are needed in Afghanastan asap…’

    …the WH said as of yesterday that a decision will not be made for “at least a few weeks”

    …SO that brings us almost to December when O is due to go to Oslo to pick up his Nobel PEACE prize…

    *** kind of boxed into a corner, isn’t he?

    does he give the general the troops he needs, especially as casulaties are mounting every day and more and more troops are being wounded and killed…(especially since the WH just said there will be no big troop withdrawals from Afg)

    …and then go to oslo after sending more troops into an expanding war…in effect, accepting a peace award for expanding a war and try to pull another ‘bait and switch’ and talk himself out of it, as in…

    O: “no, NPP committee and WORLD audience…this is the hope and change I promised…in the 21st C you must expand wars to secure peace…just believe in me, I, and only I, know best”

    …that would be so characteristic of the essence of this man…

    OR…does he leave the troops to fend for themselves…er, throw them under the bus with everyone else – to wait for another time more convenient for him…what do they expect O is just getting around to placating the gays again…troops must wait…try not to get wounded, killed or die…

  89. HEre is an exerpt of the Clinton Tapes as Bill discusses when Taylor Branch his forebodings about China after a meeting with the Jiang.

    This historical forebodings reminded me of President Clinton’s somber mood about China in an earlier session. He said his reactions were similiar but distinct. As opposed to inward dangers to Russia, and within Russia, he was more preoccupied with outward projections of Chinese power. When I asked if he could elaborate on anything Jiang Zemin might have said aling these lines, the president vividly recalled their private meeting. He said Jiang was well aware that mammoth size and rapid growth destined his economy to become the largest on earth. Jiang’s rhetoric in Seattle had invoked this future so lucidly that Clinton conceded to him the possible of a very different summit in fifty years, when some leader might try to cajole a U.S. president to “reform” our constitution and laws along Chinese lines. Jiang declared that Chinese rulers believed in discipline for their people, not from them, and he bluntly diminished American self-government as a small and dubious blip on the chinese calendar, not a monument of world history. In my notes, dictated moments later on the way home, I said I could only appproximate the eloquent force of President Clinton’s relayed quotation. “Look” Jiang told him. “Its wonderful that you have all this freedom, all this money, but what do you do with it? You have 33,000 homicides by guns. Your cities are inimhabitable. Your schools dont work. You have rampant drug use, and you can’t control your population. Who is to say that your freedom is worth it?”

    This is quiet an amazing forecast by BC in 1994. I don’t believe its taking 50 years, I think its happening right now. Thanks to the BUsh twins, George and Barack.

  90. S,

    If he procrastinates on this, how many lives will be at risk? It is beyond the pale that he could manipulate major decisions like this based on when he will get the best kodak moments. Maybe he should just go to Oslo now and leave the heavy lifting to totus.

  91. Now here’s class…

    —————————
    White House calls talk host Scarborough an a**hole over Nobel win

    A senior White House official emails MSNBC staff during a live morning talk show, calling co-host Joe Scarborough an a**hole for questioning Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize win.

    While MSNBC’s television talk show host, Joe Scarborough, has likely been associated with the label before, an unnamed senior White House official emailed staff members of Scarborough’s morning program during the live telecast – calling Scarborough an a**hole.

    Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, a decision the surprised many people around the world – including the Obama administration. There were a record 205 candidates in the running for the prize.

    Scarborough questioned the Nobel commission’s motives in awarding President Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, comparing Obama to prior Nobel winners Yassar Arafat and Al Gore – and saying the award “is not prestigious anymore.”

    A few moments later Scarborough was alerted to an email from the White House.

    “Joe, stop being such an a**hole,” the senior administration official wrote.

    Worldwide response to the news on Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize win was mixed.

    digitaljournal.com/article/280316

  92. Jan,

    this is the dilemma that the NPP committee has boxed him into…

    …his feet to the fire…no more “present” votes…____ or get off the ____

    O is going to be forced to start deciding and matching his ‘destiny’ with ‘moments of truth’

    …and now the whole WORLD is REALLY watching…

    frankly, I do not know how he goes to Oslo with the Afg predicament pending in such a ironic timely way…

    …and then stands there on a podium and deny this award to much, much more DESERVING people…especially after all the criticism he is receiving around the world for not having done anything yet to get this award…we always said his ego would be his downfall…he is becoming a joke…(saw some clips last night re: the international response to this and everyone has the same reaction “are you freaking kidding me?” sums it up…

    he is going to look like the pompus, egotistical, ambitious fool that he is…

  93. if he does go there an accept that award…he should take the award money and split it up amongst the other much more deserving nominees…that would show some dignity…(instead of funneling to offline acorn thugs)

    heading out…

  94. W
    hile the Nobel prize winner wallows in his two weeks service to mankind,the real president and the real Nobel Prize deserving awardee is SoS Hillary Rodham Clinton.Without her Obama stands for nothing,
    earned nothing and deserves nothing.Here is —Hillary’s schedule.

    ————————————————-he U.S. Air Force Boeing 757 that carries Secretaries of State on their travels has just taxied down the runway, and we are officially on our way to Zurich, London, Dublin, Belfast, Moscow and Kazan.

    The Secretary’s first stop will be Zurich, where she will attend the signing of two protocols between the governments of Turkey and Armenia. These signings are a historic step for both Turkey and Armenia towards normalization of their relations. The Secretary has been closely engaged with the parties to move this along, and we will remain prepared to work closely with both governments in support of this process.

    Secretary Clinton will then travel to London, where she will discuss a range of bilateral and transatlantic issues, including Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, with senior U.K. officials. From London, she will travel to Ireland and Northern Ireland for the first time as Secretary of State.

    During her visit to Dublin, she will meet with senior Irish leaders and reaffirm our strong commitment to and ties with Ireland. In Belfast, the Secretary will highlight our continuing commitment to political progress and economic development in Northern Ireland. The Secretary recently named a new Economic Envoy to Northern Ireland, Declan Kelly, and this reinforces U.S. commitment, along with our international partners, to ensure Northern Ireland’s economic recovery.

    The Secretary will then travel to Moscow, where she’ll hold a series of meetings with Russian officials, including President Medvedev and Foreign Minister Lavrov. They’ll review progress and provide further guidance to our negotiators on a successor agreement to START. Secretary Clinton and Foreign Minister Lavrov are the coordinators of a Bilateral Presidential Commission, established last July in Moscow. Together, they will review the progress of the commission’s various working groups.

    These consultations are an integral part of our renewed partnership with Russia, one that we believe is already yielding results, from progress on a successor agreement to START to Russia’s agreement to allow the United States to transport military personnel and equipment across Russia in support of NATO-led operations in Afghanistan.

    In my previous job, I served as Director of Russian Affairs here at the State Department, so I’m very much looking forward to returning to Russia with the Secretary. I’ve been to Moscow many times, but to really understand a country, one has to travel outside its capital city. I think this is particularly true of such a large country as Russia, if one wants to understand its rich vibrancy and diversity.

    So, finally, the Secretary will travel to Kazan, a historic city and the capital of Tatarstan. I’ve never been to Kazan, but I know that it will show that the Russian Federation is a country comprised of many constituent parts. Many different ethnic and faith groups are represented in Kazan. The Secretary will hold discussion with local officials to learn more about Kazan’s experience in fostering tolerance and interfaith dialogue. She will solicit advice from religious leaders, young Muslims, participants in U.S. exchange programs, and civil society representatives on how to apply the lessons from their experience in other societies.

    We’ll keep you posted on the Secretary’s travels here on DipNote, as well as on state.gov and Twitter. You can also follow the her trip on our interactive travel map, featuring the Secretary’s latest video, photos and remarks. As you follow along, text the Secretary your questions about her travel. We look forward to hearing from you.
    –he U.S. Air Force Boeing 757 that carries Secretaries of State on their travels has just taxied down the runway, and we are officially on our way to Zurich, London, Dublin, Belfast, Moscow and Kazan.

    The Secretary’s first stop will be Zurich, where she will attend the signing of two protocols between the governments of Turkey and Armenia. These signings are a historic step for both Turkey and Armenia towards normalization of their relations. The Secretary has been closely engaged with the parties to move this along, and we will remain prepared to work closely with both governments in support of this process.

    Secretary Clinton will then travel to London, where she will discuss a range of bilateral and transatlantic issues, including Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, with senior U.K. officials. From London, she will travel to Ireland and Northern Ireland for the first time as Secretary of State.

    During her visit to Dublin, she will meet with senior Irish leaders and reaffirm our strong commitment to and ties with Ireland. In Belfast, the Secretary will highlight our continuing commitment to political progress and economic development in Northern Ireland. The Secretary recently named a new Economic Envoy to Northern Ireland, Declan Kelly, and this reinforces U.S. commitment, along with our international partners, to ensure Northern Ireland’s economic recovery.

    The Secretary will then travel to Moscow, where she’ll hold a series of meetings with Russian officials, including President Medvedev and Foreign Minister Lavrov. They’ll review progress and provide further guidance to our negotiators on a successor agreement to START. Secretary Clinton and Foreign Minister Lavrov are the coordinators of a Bilateral Presidential Commission, established last July in Moscow. Together, they will review the progress of the commission’s various working groups.

    These consultations are an integral part of our renewed partnership with Russia, one that we believe is already yielding results, from progress on a successor agreement to START to Russia’s agreement to allow the United States to transport military personnel and equipment across Russia in support of NATO-led operations in Afghanistan.

    In my previous job, I served as Director of Russian Affairs here at the State Department, so I’m very much looking forward to returning to Russia with the Secretary. I’ve been to Moscow many times, but to really understand a country, one has to travel outside its capital city. I think this is particularly true of such a large country as Russia, if one wants to understand its rich vibrancy and diversity.

    So, finally, the Secretary will travel to Kazan, a historic city and the capital of Tatarstan. I’ve never been to Kazan, but I know that it will show that the Russian Federation is a country comprised of many constituent parts. Many different ethnic and faith groups are represented in Kazan. The Secretary will hold discussion with local officials to learn more about Kazan’s experience in fostering tolerance and interfaith dialogue. She will solicit advice from religious leaders, young Muslims, participants in U.S. exchange programs, and civil society representatives on how to apply the lessons from their experience in other societies.

    We’ll keep you posted on the Secretary’s travels here on DipNote, as well as on state.gov and Twitter. You can also follow the her trip on our interactive travel map, featuring the Secretary’s latest video, photos and remarks. As you follow along, text the Secretary your questions about her travel. We look forward to hearing from you.

  95. S,
    I feel the same way about the corner Jack Squat has painted himself into.
    If I were mcCrystal, I would say the he11 with it, kick the paint can over and lobby for troop reinforcements no matter what the consequences.
    I am no war hawk but the US soldiers over there are sitting ducks, now.
    They’re under orders not to harm civilians, the lack of POTUS support is emboldening the Taliban and troop morale is plummeting by the day.
    It is unconscionable the way Squat has thrown the troops under the bus in favor of Islamic extremists.

  96. Sorry about the double paste.Still a novice using the one finger hunt punc and miss method.

    By ABM90 The emperor got the prize She will earn the Presidency.

  97. A few weeks back the Canadian General, with federal government support, met with Afghan village leaders and told them straight out that if they didn’t start giving them intel on potential land mines and enemy strikes, then Canadian troops were going to halt rebuilding efforts. This was after another tragic Cdn. troop loss that could and should have been avoided.

    It would be nice if bambi would start doing the same with his generals.

    It would be nice to see bambi

  98. Confloyd, thanks for that Clinton Tapes quote. The Chinese think long-term. To them the U.S. with only 230+ years is a “blip”, a historical non-entity compared to countries with thousands of years of some sort of continuity.

  99. Perhaps someone here can help. We’ve made some phone calls about this, to no avail.

    Today on http://www.drudgereport.com/ there is a picture in the middle column. The picture is Obama and a rather attractive woman walking beside him. What is odd and we are wondering about is the fact that no story is associated with the picture. It’s just a picture of Obama and a woman. Is Drudge implying something? Are we wrong and indeed there is a story associated with the picture?

    Is Drudge telling a story with a picture?

  100. hehe, you don’t suspect that the president is having something on the side are you?? 😉

    I followed the link above the photo and the woman in the photo is written about in the article, she is the president of Argentina, Christina Fernandez de Kirchner. But it was a long article, so I haven’t read it yet so I don’t know if Obama is mentioned in the article yet.

    But I agree, I did a double take on the photo at drudge earlier today, no obvious link to go with the pic, but there you have it.

  101. Just did a quick search through the article for obamas name, never came up. So, weird to use a photo of her and obama together, maybe a way to draw ‘clicks’ to the link…. ??

  102. Gorto, the picture name is of Obama at the G20 summit. Perhaps you are right that it was a way to draw ‘clicks’ to the article. Maybe the National Enquirer will enlighten us. 🙂

  103. Confloyd–I posted the link at NQ concerning Naomi Klein’s negative reaction to BO winning the Nobel peace prize. Yes, I identified her as an Obot because during the primary and the GE she (like Jeramy Skahill) give her support to BO because they believed he would “change” things. In any case, like most Obots she rarely criticizes BO directly for continuing and/or escalating GWB’s policies. It’s alway someone else’s fault. Unless she radically changes her tune about BO, I’ll still see her as an Obot.

  104. I think the pic is of the Argentinian prez – forgot her name.

    Whoever she is she seems to share Mo’s fashion -sense – zero – and like MO favors cardigan sweaters and ugly prints.

    If Bo is straying it’s to a familiar port.

    👿

  105. The link above the picture seems to be about Obama, the link below seems to be about the Argentinian president, maybe they wanted to save space and use ‘two flies in one….whack’…

    Yeah we might have to wait for National Enquirer, we know from the past that some actual credible news might come from the most unexpected sources.

  106. Trixta, after reading her book, she is a very intelligent woman, its a shame she could be taken in by BO, especially since he has followed everyone of Bush’s policy, perhaps she believed as many do that Hillary would be another Bush.

    Oh how they must be feeling like a jilted girlfriend. Hillary would have been the one who would have done what she would have wanted because Hillary is for the people and for the US and always has been.

    I do believe Hillary is doing a great job keeping this country together while the EGO is fumbling.

    Naomi Klein uncovered corporate America and that needed to be done, but she not perfect.

  107. admin: I just hope I can find a link from the Chinese to Soros/Brezezinski. I know Brezezinski loves the Chinese economy. I think there will be a much higher percentage of unemployment in the future. It will be our shock therapy to bring down our labor prices and working conditions like the Chinese. We already know BO is selling our assets to the Chinese and Brazil.

  108. FRONTLINE has a 24min video as a trailer for an upcoming Special Report on the War and Our Troops in A-stan. Well, worth watching…

    h…w… pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/

  109. Clinton reaches UK on Europe tour

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has arrived in the UK on the the second leg of a five-day tour of Europe.

    The Afghan war and concerns over Iran’s nuclear programme are expected to be high on the agenda when she meets Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Sunday.

    Mrs Clinton arrived from Zurich in Switzerland, where she attended the signing of a historic pact between Turkey and Armenia.

    The two countries normalised relations after a century of hostility.

    On Monday, the US secretary of state will address the Northern Ireland assembly in Belfast.

    Visiting Russia for the first time as chief US diplomat, Mrs Clinton will hold talks on Iran’s disputed nuclear programme with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Moscow on Tuesday.

    She is expected to press the Russian leader for a strong commitment for tough new sanctions on Tehran.

    Officials say she will also raise other issues, including arms control, missile defence, and cooperation to convince North Korea to abandon nuclear weapons.

    Mrs Clinton returns to Washington late on Wednesday, after visiting Russia’s mainly Muslim city of Kazan.

    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8300376.stm

  110. She has been busy…

    —————————-
    Clinton Brokers Deal as ‘Hitch’ Delays Turkey-Armenia Accord

    By Janine Zacharia

    Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spent about an hour in a car outside a Zurich hotel brokering a deal between Armenia and Turkey after a last-minute dispute delayed an accord to restore relations.

    Clinton’s motorcade abruptly turned tail after it arrived at the ceremony at Zurich University this afternoon, returning to the Dolder Grand Hotel. The event was delayed by a disagreement about the texts of statements to be read at signing.

    Clinton made phone calls to the Turkish and Armenia foreign ministers from her car before heading into the hotel to meet with Armenian officials, an aide said. She then left for the ceremony a second time accompanied by the Armenian foreign minister.

    The accord will end a 16-year freeze on diplomatic contacts following disputes over borders and the World War I killings of Ottoman Armenians. Détente between the neighbors may boost Turkey’s European Union membership bid and bolster ties with the U.S., where members of Congress have criticized the country for refusing to acknowledge the 1915 deaths as genocide.

    U.S. assistant secretary of state Philip Gordon met with Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian to “facilitate and agreement after a “last-minute hitch” delayed the signing of an accord between the former Soviet republic and Turkey in Zurich today, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said.

    The signing ceremony will be attended by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner and European Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana.

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aBfK3HGiCUPk#

  111. Pakistan army HQ attack exposes extremist threat: Clinton

    (AFP) – 20 minutes ago

    LONDON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the militant attack on Pakistan’s army headquarters Saturday served to underline the extremist threat to the Islamabad government.

    Clinton, who arrived in London late Saturday as part of her five-day European tour, said the measures being taken to root out extremists in Pakistan were “very important”.

    Militants were holding up to 15 people hostage after a bid to storm the army headquarters in the garrison town of Rawalpindi left six soldiers and four attackers dead, Pakistani officials said.

    Clinton told reporters she had been briefed about the attack.

    She said she wanted to “point out this shows the continuing threats to the Pakistani government and the very important steps that the civilian leadership, along with the military, are taking to root out the extremists and prevent violence and direct assaults on the sovereignty of the state.”

    Up to 10 suspected Taliban gunmen in military uniform armed with automatic weapons and grenades drove up to the compound and shot their way through one checkpost.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iFcpbWG7ItYUzUvBs7a8VUn36tqQ

  112. bambi’s buddies are bloodthirsty to say the least
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    October 11, 2009

    Tehran Plans to Execute 3 Protesters of Election

    By MICHAEL SLACKMAN

    CAIRO — Iranian officials have sentenced to death three protesters who participated in demonstrations following the nation’s disputed presidential election in June, according to ISNA, Iran’s semi-official news agency.

    The news service quoted an unnamed spokesman for the Tehran prosecutor’s office saying that the three were sentenced to be hanged and that they had been part of what Iran considered terrorist organizations.

    The death sentences are the first to be made public in cases involving the hundreds charged in the vast protests that followed the government’s declaration of a landslide victory for the incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in the June 12 presidential election.

    Reform-aligned Web sites reported last week that a prisoner named Mohammad-Reza Ali-Zamani had received a death sentence. The announcement on Saturday, which said a man with the initials M.Z. would be put to death, appears to confirm that sentence and report two others. According to the report Saturday, two of the protesters were members of the Kingdom Assembly of Iran, a group that wants to restore the monarchy. The third, identified as N.A., was said to be a member of People’s Mujahedeen of Iran, an exile group that Iran says works to overthrow the government.

    The news of death sentences sparked immediate condemnation from international human rights groups. In the weeks after the election, millions of Iranians marched in the streets of Tehran, charging that Mr. Ahmadinejad stole the race. At least 30 people were killed in a government crackdown that quelled the protests but failed to end the simmering discontent.

    “Zamani’s trial was a mockery of justice,” the executive director of Amnesty International USA, Larry Cox, said in a statement. “To impose the death sentence is beyond deplorable. Iran should immediately rescind this sentence.”

    The ISNA report, without giving details, said the court also sentenced 18 other protesters. That raised concerns about the hundreds of journalists, former government officials, academics and protesters still held in prison, many incommunicado, said the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran, a group based in the United States.

    There have been many charges of protesters’ being tortured while in prison, and the government has agreed that some prisoners were abused, although it has continued to dispute accusations that some were raped and sodomized. “Iranian authorities have released little or no information about many of the approximately 400 persons who remain detained,” the human rights campaign said in a statement, adding that Iran was “violating international standards for due process and raising deep concerns about their health and safety.”

    Among those who remain in detention are Maziar Bahari, a filmmaker and reporter for Newsweek, and Shapur Kazemi, the brother-in-law of Mir Hussein Moussavi, who the opposition claims won the election. Mr. Kazemi, 62, is a respected telecommunications engineer and is known for his activities in technical and economic fields rather than for political activism.

    Others who are still being held include the former vice president, Mohammad Ali Abtahi; Muhammad Atrianfar, a publisher and confidant of the former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani; Mostafa Tajzadeh, a deputy interior minister in the reformist government of the former president Mohammad Khatami; Saeed Leylaz, an economist and former government official; and the journalist Isa Saharkhiz, who according to Iranian news reports suffered broken ribs during interrogation.

    Student activists being held include Abdullah Momeni, a former spokesman for the student group Iran Alumni Association, who confessed in court. Mr. Momeni’s wife says he had been badly tortured, according to Iranian news reports.

    nytimes.com/2009/10/11/world/middleeast/11iran.html

  113. Iran will enrich uranium further if talks fail

    By ALI AKBAR DAREINI (AP) – 1 hour ago

    TEHRAN, Iran — Iran warned Saturday it will enrich uranium to a higher level needed to power a research reactor if talks with the U.N. nuclear watchdog and world powers fail to help Iran obtain the fuel from abroad.

    Such a step would heighten tensions in the standoff over Iran’s nuclear program that are already running high over last month’s revelation that the country is building a second enrichment facility.

    The United States and its partners in the negotiations want Tehran to send some of its low enriched uranium to Russia to further process the material for use in a medical research reactor in the Iranian capital.

    Enrichment is a central concern because the technology can be used to make fuel for nuclear power plants and research reactors at low levels or atomic weapons at high levels. Having the higher-level enrichment carried out abroad would be an important confidence-building step that could help ease Western concerns that Iran is seeking to use its civilian nuclear work as a cover for weapons development.

    It would also be a long-sought compromise because Iran has repeatedly refused to involve an outside country, insisting it has the right to a full domestic enrichment program that it maintains is only for peaceful purposes such as energy production.

    Ali Shirzadian, spokesman for the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, told The Associated Press Saturday that Iran will proceed to enrich its uranium to the higher level of about 20 percent needed for the Tehran reactor if no deal is reached in talks on Oct. 19 in Vienna. That is still well below the 90 percent level of enrichment needed for nuclear weapons, but it would generate significant concern for the nations trying to persuade Iran to limit its enrichment program. So far, Iran has produced about a ton of uranium enriched to less than 5 percent.

    Shirzadian said Iran will need up to 660 pounds (300 kilograms) of the more enriched uranium to keep the Tehran reactor running for another 10 to 15 years. He said the facility — which Iran says is used for medical and scientific research — only has enough fuel to run for another year and a half. The more than 30-year-old five-megawatt reactor was built by the Americans before the 1979 Islamic revolution toppled the pro-U.S. Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and brought hard-line clerics to power.

    Shirzadian said Iran is open to discussing various proposals on the issue at the meeting in Vienna with officials from the U.S., France and Russia and the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog agency.

    One proposal is for Iran to buy the enriched uranium from countries willing to sell it, and the other is for Iran to send some of its low enriched uranium to countries such as Russia for further processing, he said. “The talks will be a test of the sincerity of those countries,” he said. “Should talks fail or sellers refuse to provide Iran with its required fuel, Iran will enrich uranium to the 20 percent level needed itself,” he said. Shirzadian said Iran prefers to buy the fuel from the world market, saying that would be cheaper than producing it at home.

    The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, said last week in Tehran that there has been a “shifting of gears” in Iran’s confrontation with the West to more cooperation and transparency. A landmark meeting on Oct. 1 in Geneva put the negotiations back on track.

    The West has new concerns, however, about the newly revealed uranium enrichment site near the holy city of Qom. ElBaradei said international inspectors would visit the facility on Oct. 25.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jG7bnyWWJfgaYD-JwcqmImlpRujwD9B8ER780

  114. Young Hamlet’s Agony
    By Charles Krauthammer

    WASHINGTON — The genius of democracy is the rotation of power, which forces the opposition to be serious — particularly about things like war, about which until Jan. 20 of this year Democrats were decidedly unserious.

    When the Iraq War (which a majority of Senate Democrats voted for) ran into trouble and casualties began to mount, Democrats followed the shifting winds of public opinion and turned decidedly anti-war. But needing political cover because of their post-Vietnam reputation for weakness on national defense, they adopted Afghanistan as their pet war.

    Charles Krauthammer RealClearPolitics
    Vietnam Iraq

    “I was part of the 2004 Kerry campaign, which elevated the idea of Afghanistan as ‘the right war’ to conventional Democratic wisdom,” wrote Democratic consultant Bob Shrum shortly after President Obama was elected. “This was accurate as criticism of the Bush administration, but it was also reflexive and perhaps by now even misleading as policy.”

    Which is a clever way to say that championing victory in Afghanistan was a contrived and disingenuous policy in which Democrats never seriously believed, a convenient two-by-four with which to bash George Bush over Iraq — while still appearing warlike enough to fend off the soft-on-defense stereotype.

    Brilliantly crafted and perfectly cynical, the “Iraq War bad, Afghan War good” posture worked. Democrats first won Congress, then the White House. But now, unfortunately, they must govern. No more games. No more pretense.

    So what does their commander in chief do now with the war he once declared had to be won but had been almost criminally under-resourced by Bush?

    Perhaps provide the resources to win it?

    You would think so. And that’s exactly what Obama’s handpicked commander requested on Aug. 30 — a surge of 30,000 to 40,000 troops to stabilize a downward spiral and save Afghanistan the way a similar surge saved Iraq.

    That was more than five weeks ago. Still no response. Obama agonizes publicly as the world watches. Why? Because, explains national security adviser James Jones, you don’t commit troops before you decide on a strategy.

    No strategy? On March 27, flanked by his secretaries of defense and state, the president said this: “Today I’m announcing a comprehensive new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan.” He then outlined a civilian-military counterinsurgency campaign to defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan.

    And to emphasize his seriousness, the president made clear that he had not arrived casually at this decision. The new strategy, he declared, “marks the conclusion of a careful policy review.”

    Conclusion, mind you. Not the beginning. Not a process. The conclusion of an extensive review, the president assured the nation, that included consultation with military commanders and diplomats, with the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan, with our NATO allies and members of Congress.

    The general in charge was then relieved and replaced with Obama’s own choice, Stanley McChrystal. And it’s McChrystal who submitted the request for the 40,000 troops, a request upon which the commander in chief promptly gagged.

    The White House began leaking an alternate strategy, apparently proposed (invented?) by Vice President Biden, for achieving immaculate victory with arm’s-length use of cruise missiles, predator drones and special ops.

    The irony is that no one knows more about this kind of warfare than Gen. McChrystal. He was in charge of exactly this kind of “counterterrorism” in Iraq for nearly five years, killing thousands of bad guys in hugely successful under-the-radar operations.

    When the world’s expert on this type of counterterrorism warfare recommends precisely the opposite strategy — “counterinsurgency,” meaning a heavy-footprint, population-protecting troop surge — you have the most convincing of cases against counterterrorism by the man who most knows its potential and its limits. And McChrystal was emphatic in his recommendation: To go any other way than counterinsurgency would lose the war.

    Yet his commander in chief, young Hamlet, frets, demurs, agonizes. His domestic advisers, led by Rahm Emanuel, tell him if he goes for victory, he’ll become LBJ, the domestic visionary destroyed by a foreign war. His vice president holds out the chimera of painless counterterrorism success.

    Against Emanuel and Biden stand David Petraeus, the world’s foremost expert on counterinsurgency (he saved Iraq with it), and Stanley McChrystal, the world’s foremost expert on counterterrorism. Whose recommendation on how to fight would you rely on?

    Less than two months ago — Aug. 17 in front of an audience of veterans — the president declared Afghanistan to be “a war of necessity.” Does anything he says remain operative beyond the fading of the audience applause?

    tinyurl.com/yglu2aw

  115. I say she has been busy, look at this. I think her and Bill have been doing a lot as they are not hindered by the media very much.

    BEIJING – North Korea appears keen to improve ties with the U.S. and its neighbors in Asia and perhaps rejoin nuclear disarmament talks, China’s premier said Saturday, urging fellow leaders not to let the opportunity slip away.

    “We need to seize the opportunity and make the most of it,” Premier Wen Jiabao told a news conference after a meeting with leaders from Japan and South Korea. “If we miss this opportunity, we might later have to do more than we should.”

    These were Wen’s first public comments on a visit last week to Pyongyang, where he said he met for 10 hours with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il. China is reclusive North Korea’s chief ally and source of economic aid.

    His upbeat remarks are the latest indication that the North is shifting tack after earlier this year pulling out of six-nation disarmament talks and conducting nuclear and missile tests. But the North says it first wants direct talks with the United States before re-entering the multilateral negotiations.

    The North’s nuclear program was a key topic as Wen, Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak met in Beijing for an annual summit Saturday. The East Asian nations agreed to work together on the nuclear issue and jointly tackle other challenges, such as climate change and expanding trade and investment ties as they move toward closer regional integration.

    Wen said his deepest impression after his talks with Kim was that the North wants to improve relations with the United States as well as Japan and South Korea.

    Kim told Wen the North might return to six-nation nuclear talks — which also include China, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the United States — depending on its hoped-for negotiations with Washington.

    “The North Korean side showed flexibility. It said it is not opposed to the six-party talks, and it is willing to resolve the relevant issues through bilateral and multilateral talks,” Wen said.

    North Korea has long sought a direct dialogue with the U.S. American officials have said such talks may be possible if they are part of the six-party negotiations.

    A decision is still pending on whether to let North Korea’s deputy nuclear envoy, Ri Gun, attend a private security forum in the U.S. later this month, State Department spokesman Philip J. Crowley said Friday.

    News of the planned trip has raised speculation that Ri might meet with U.S. officials to lay the groundwork for possible direct talks with Washington.

    Despite the show of unity in Beijing, the North’s three neighbors have long had differing approaches in dealing with Pyongyang. As host of the nuclear talks and a long-time supplier of fuel and food to the impoverished North, China is viewed as having greater influence.

    After their three-way talks, Wen did not respond directly to an agreement Friday by the Japanese and South Korean leaders that the North should not be given aid until it begins to dismantle its nuclear weapons program.

    He said China’s assistance to the North, its longtime communist ally, was meant to aid the country’s development and “improvement of people’s livelihood.”

    U.N. sanctions imposed after the isolated country’s rocket launch and nuclear tests appear nonetheless to be helping push the North toward dialogue, Japanese officials say.

    The isolated country, meanwhile, marked the 64th anniversary of the founding of the ruling Workers’ Party with calls to unite around leader Kim — though there was no mention of the nuclear standoff.

    Apart from the North Korea issue, Wen and his counterparts discussed climate change, the world financial crisis and moves to deepen already close economic and trade ties.

    Japan’s Hatoyama said cutting back on economic stimulus measures could derail the still feeble recovery from the financial crisis.

    “It may be too early to consider exit strategies,” he said.

    Hatoyama, who took office last month, appears to have won favor with Japan’s closest neighbors by emphasizing his desire to assuage sensitivities over Tokyo’s history of invasion and occupation in the region before and during World War II.

    “We have agreed we will seek common ground and shelve our differences,” Wen said.

    The three leaders endorsed the idea of working, albeit gradually, toward a regional economic community, agreeing to begin research on a possible free trade agreement.

    While officials emphasized that the vision for a regional community is a long-term and inclusive one, the shift toward a sharper focus on more cooperation within Asia was clear.

    “Until now, we have tended to be too reliant on the United States,” Hatoyama told reporters after the summit.

    “The Japan-U.S. alliance remains to be important, but as a member of Asia, I would like to develop policies that focus more on Asia,” he said.

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  116. “North Korea appears keen to improve ties with the U.S.”

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    She gets a lot of things done behind the scenes. He gets the credit but she gets the satisfaction.

  117. So how many “DNC labelled terrorists” have sprouted since yesterday? You know the ones lumped in with the taliban and hamas and others who think “that Zero” did not deserve that “piss” award.

    I am one of them!!!!

  118. “The irony is that no one knows more about this kind of warfare than Gen. McChrystal. He was in charge of exactly this kind of “counterterrorism” in Iraq for nearly five years, killing thousands of bad guys in hugely successful under-the-radar operations.”

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    Exactly! And yet bambi disrespects this amazing general left and right.

  119. Maybe I am reading too much into this and I am sure (as Gorto said) there are just a few bad norwegian apples….but looks like there is another one here…Kai….maybe some norwegians are trying to suppress anything happening in Afghanistan…!!!!1

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    UN chief Peter Galbraith is removed in Afghanistan poll clash
    Written by The Times
    America’s top diplomat at the United Nations mission in Afghanistan has been ordered out of the country after a row with his boss over how to respond to last month’s fraud-riddled presidential elections, it has been alleged.

    The alleged quarrel is threatening to spark a mutiny within the UN mission. At least a dozen senior staff are backing the American, Peter Galbraith, in the dispute with his Norwegian superior, Kai Eide.

    Mr Galbraith, a close friend of the US special envoy Richard Holbrooke, left for Boston on Sunday after a heated meeting with Afghan election officials. His “pointed” questions to the Independent Election Commission (IEC) were evidence of a much tougher line towards the Afghan authorities than the “softly-softly” approach of Mr Eide, who heads the UN mission to Kabul.

    “The relationship between Kai and Peter has completely broken down,” said a diplomat in Kabul. “Peter has left the country. The official line is that he’s on a three-week mission to New York. But Kai just turned round to Peter and said, ‘I want you out’.”

    The apparent row illustrates the deepening divisions within the international community on whether to allow President Karzai to claim re-election in the flawed presidential poll.

    Mr Galbraith wants the IEC to annul results from 1,000 of the total of about 6,500 polling stations and to recount results from another 5,000, diplomatic sources said. Mr Eide, a former UN envoy in Bosnia, seeks only a face-saving recount of some 1,000 polling places, the sources said.

    Mr Galbraith’s wholesale recount would virtually ensure a second round in the election, denying Mr Karzai his claimed first-round victory. Harsh winter weather means that the second round could not be held before May, leaving Afghanistan in political limbo.

    Mr Eide’s solution would probably enable Mr Karzai to claim victory, although with a reduced margin.

    Mr Eide and Mr Galbraith insist that they are old friends from serving in the Balkans. Indeed, Mr Eide introduced Mr Galbraith to the Norwegian anthropologist who became his wife. But Mr Eide is said to have lobbied behind the scenes to block Mr Galbraith’s appointment as his deputy in March and their relationship appears to have deteriorated.

    The row worsened when Mr Eide left Afghanistan to celebrate his wedding anniversary in Norway after the election and refused to cut short his break despite the fraud allegations..

    Mr Eide was out of the country when the election-rigging issue reached a head last Tuesday.

    The IEC were preparing to announce the last 15 per cent of ballots, coming from the most controversial areas of the south and Badghis province in the north. All are expected to return big majorities for Mr Karzai. Mr Galbraith then stepped in and forced the more robust line from the IEC, forcing them to agree not to announce the controversial last results.

    At a meeting with IEC officials on Sunday, Mr Galbraith “laid into the commissioners, in front of the donors and observers” and demanded to know why they had not started printing ballot papers as part of a run-off contingency plan.

    Mr Eide, now back in Kabul, has urged his staff not to speak out against the fraud because he fears that it will destabilise efforts to build a democracy. He is also afraid that fraud investigations will be seen as foreign interference, because three of the five people in charge of the Election Complaints Commission are UN appointees.

    “The one thing the UN should be doing, which it’s not doing, is speaking up on election fraud,” said a mission insider. “A lot of people in the UN feel that unless there’s space for someone to behave as Peter has behaved, then what are we doing here?”

    UN officials suggested that Mr Galbraith was more in tune with America’s tough stance on fraud, while Mr Eide’s less vocal position echoes that of the European missions in Kabul.

    British embassy officials insisted that they were in line with the American position. “As the Foreign Secretary has made clear, we will not be party to any whitewash when it comes to the elections,” a spokesman said.

    Mr Eide and Mr Galbraith met on Saturday night, shortly after the latest set of official results confirmed Mr Karzai’s lead with 54.3 per cent of the vote. Mr Eide is said to have asked Mr Galbraith to “leave the country for a while”, according to a European official.

    When news of Mr Galbraith’s sudden departure spread around the UN mission, a dozen senior diplomats went to his office to show him their support, before his flight. “He has provided the principled leadership UN staff expect,” said one of the officials.

    Farhan Haq, a UN spokesman in New York, said that Mr Galbraith was in Boston “on mission” and would travel to London next week before going to New York to brief the UN Security Council on September 29 with Mr Eide

  120. 4,000 foreigners join Taliban, minister says

    ‘The enemy has changed,’ he says in plea for more international troops

    KABUL – Thousands of foreign fighters have poured into Afghanistan to bolster the Taliban insurgency, the country’s defense minister said Saturday as he called for more international troops.

    The remarks come as the U.S. debates whether to substantially increase its forces in Afghanistan or to conduct a more limited campaign focused on targeting al-Qaida figures — most of whom are believed to be in neighboring Pakistan.

    The minister’s comments hit on a key worry of the United States — that not sending enough troops to Afghanistan will open the door back up to al-Qaida. They also suggest that the Afghan government is nervous about the U.S. commitment amid talk of changing the strategy and a surge in violence in recent months.

    An American and two Polish troops were killed by bombs in the latest violence reported by NATO forces.

    “The enemy has changed. Their number has increased,” Defense Minister Gen. Abdul Rahim Wardak told lawmakers in a speech. He said about 4,000 fighters, mostly from Chechnya, North Africa and Pakistan “have joined with them and they are involved in the fighting in Afghanistan.”

    He gave no timeframe for the supposed increase in foreign fighters.

    Wardak said Afghan intelligence services had asked for more international forces to cope with the foreign threat, and the minister’s spokesman said Wardak backed the call.

    U.S. military officials said they could not immediately comment on the claim of a recent influx of foreign fighters.

    Afghanistan’s interior minister, who also spoke to parliament, endorsed a strategy promoted by the top U.S. commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal to focus on protecting civilians rather than simply killing insurgents.

    “If the target of this fight is only killing the Taliban, we will not win this war. If it is saving the Afghan people, then we have a possibility,” Interior Minister Hanif Atmar said.

    Election complicates matters
    The strategy debate in the U.S. has been complicated by the still-undecided Afghan presidential election, which has raised doubts about whether there will be reliable, credible Afghan leadership to cement any military gains by the U.S. and its allies. Results from the disputed August vote have been delayed because of widespread allegations of fraud.

    A U.N.-backed fraud investigation panel was analyzing data Saturday from an audit and recount of polling stations with suspect results. Results from about 13 percent of the country’s polling stations hang in the balance — enough to swing the result from an outright win by President Hamid Karzai to a forced runoff between the top two finishers.

    Election officials have said they expect to announce final results by the end of next week.

    The weeks of waiting have been dogged by accusations of wrongdoing between candidates and even within the U.N., which has advised on the vote and whose appointees dominate the fraud investigation panel.

    The second-in-command at the U.N. in Afghanistan was fired this month after a dispute with his boss about how to investigate alleged fraud. The official, American Peter Galbraith, has since accused the U.N. of trying to cover up fraud to avoid a runoff vote. Kai Eide, the top U.N. envoy to Afghanistan, has denied the charges.

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    Obama ‘weeks away’ from Afghan decision

    An Afghan election official said Saturday that the U.N. dispute is further damaging the credibility of an election already seen as marred by fraud.

    “This kind of controversy will of course have an impact on the wider perception of the election inside and outside Afghanistan,” said Zekria Barakzai, a deputy chief electoral officer with the government-appointed Independent Election Commission. “It is a negative impact.”

    New soldier deaths

    In developments on the battlefield, U.S. officials said that the U.S. service member who died Saturday was a bombing victim in southern Afghanistan.

    The Polish soldiers were killed when their vehicle hit a roadside bomb in eastern Wardak province on Friday, Poland’s Defense Ministry said. Four others were wounded.

    Also Saturday, Afghan officials said nine Taliban were killed the day before in a gunfight in Wardak.

    Two Afghan policemen and a district official were killed Friday when their vehicle struck a roadside bomb in Paktika province, which borders Pakistan.

  121. The Nobel price for Obama is a crying shame and a moral bankrupcy for the Nobel committee!!

    Economy, Unemployment, Universal health care, Climate change, Immigration reform, Iraq, Afghanistan

    Has be done anything? Anything at all in the above mentioned issues? NOPE

    The pretender will soon be off to Europe again as a empty suit & pretend that he has accomplished something!!!

    What a farce! He irritates me when I see him on my TV. Yuck!

  122. G.Soros says “Jump” and Barack Hussein Obama says “How High Sir ”

    By ABM90 Every working day and night,Hillary is getting closer to the Presidency
    and The emperor can’t stop her.

  123. The Iranian election was corrupt. The Afghan election was corrupt. obama wants to pay taliban and al queda terrorists to stop be terrorists. Which will end up being de facto financial support for them to continue their crimes. Does he really think after all that indoctrination and hatred that they are just going to give up the cause???

  124. How about some stuff on Obama and his big money man?

    –of Barack Obama’s socialist agenda and ideas for the United States comes directly from Soros and in turn through his network of leftist funded organizations. This includes the funding of organizations that advocate abortion, open borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, a cap and trade tax, to prevent man-made global warming, huge cuts in defense spending, increasing the minimum wage and the world poverty tax just to name a few.

    Soros likes to be considered a “stateless stateman”.

    In fact he is more accurately described as the Godfather of World Socialism.

    Too bad Soros has not apparently read or understood the works of Friedrick Hayek, Karl Popper’s good friend and author of the Open Society and Its Enemies for which Soros’ Open Society Institute (OSI) is named.

    http://www.soros.org/

    http://www.soros.org/about/overview

    I find Soros ideas interesting but his dismissal of capitalism as market fundamentalism both revealing and mistaken.

    Milton Friedman was right, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Rumors on talk radio are that Soros and his financial currency trader group are planning an October surprise such as either a run on the U.S dollar or bidding up of oil future contract prices.

    If this happens and they are successful, U.S. gasoline prices would significantly increase above $4 a gallon as the US dollar declines in value and the cost of oil increases.

    This is turn would throw the economy into a recession or at less increased fear of a recession in 2009.

    The theory is this would help Obama.

    I think not.

    Such a move would backfire for the simple reason, it is the Democratic Party that is stopping oil and gas exploration off the U.S. coasts and in ANWR.

    Furthermore, the Democratic Party is largely responsible through Federal government intervention in the mortage markets insisting on home loans for people that would not normally qualify.

    This resulted in the financial collapse of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the need for its bailout and the collapse or buyout of a number of mortage bankers, investment banks, and broker dealers.

    One of Senator’s Obama’s financial and housing advisor just so happens to be Franklin Raines, the man who collected over $90 million in compensation for mismanaging Fannie Mae (see videos below on Fannie Mae, Raines, and the bailout).

    I think there will be two October surprises that will appear in the last week of the campaign.

    Just in case a Soros instigated surprise materializes, you better fill up your gas tank in the last week on October.

    Make sure you have enough gas in your vehicle’s gas tank to get to the place you vote.

    If you want a recession and socialism vote Obama.
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  125. How about the worldwide Soros influence and the money man for Obama the puppet.

    .————————————————–Soros foundations are autonomous institutions established in particular countries or regions to initiate and support open society activities. The priorities and specific activities of each foundation are determined by a local board of directors and staff in consultation with George Soros and Open Society Institute boards and advisors. In addition to support from OSI, many of the foundations receive funding from other sources.

    Below are links to Soros foundations, arranged alphabetically by country or area.

    Albania: Open Society Foundation for Albania

    Armenia: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Armenia

    Azerbaijan: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Azerbaijan

    Bosnia and Herzegovina: Open Society Fund–Bosnia and Herzegovina

    Bulgaria: Open Society Institute–Sofia

    Czech Republic: Open Society Fund–Prague

    East Africa: Open Society Initiative for East Africa

    Estonia: Open Estonia Foundation

    Georgia: Open Society Georgia Foundation

    Guatemala: Fundacion Soros–Guatemala

    Haiti: Fondation Connaissance et Liberte

    Hungary: Soros Foundation–Hungary

    Kazakhstan: Soros Foundation – Kazakhstan

    Kosovo: Kosovo Foundation for Open Society

    Kyrgyzstan: Soros Foundation–Kyrgyzstan

    Latvia: Soros Foundation–Latvia
    Lithuania: Open Society Fund–Lithuania

    London: Open Society Foundation

    Macedonia: Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia

    Moldova: Soros Foundation–Moldova

    Mongolia: Open Society Forum

    Montenegro: Foundation Open Society Institute–Representative Office Montenegro

    Poland: Stefan Batory Foundation

    Romania: Soros Foundation Romania

    Serbia: Fund for an Open Society–Serbia

    Slovakia: Open Society Foundation–Bratislava

    South Africa: Open Society Foundation for South Africa

    Southern Africa: Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa

    Tajikistan: Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation–Tajikistan

    Turkey: Open Society Foundation – Turkey

    Ukraine: International Renaissance Foundation

    West Africa: Open Society Initiative for West Africa

    This person has control of our whitehouse,the president and our futures.Dangerous stuff.

  126. In doing genealogy research I came across this Revolutionary War patriot and would like to share with Big Pink:

    I am unable to learn much of Isaac Allen’s early life. He was reared on a farm and, like most of the farm boys of his time, started in life at his majority (21 years) with but little education. But like his Virginia peers, his whole being radiated with patriotism and when his state made the first call for volunteers to fight in the American Revolutionary War, he shouldered his rifle and hastened to join the army of George Washington, in whose army he remained until England acknowledged the independence of each of the thirteen colonies and peace was declared. During that seven years of hardship and suffering, he stood in the forefront of that noble army and never flinched from duty.

    When the state of Virginia, before ceeding the north western Territory, comprising Ohio, Indiana and other states of the middle west, to the United States Government, the state offered to each of her soldiers of the War of 1776, a quarter section of land in this territory if they would just go out and survey it off, making their selection of location. He (Isaac Allen) absolutely refused to accept it saying, “I did not fight in the War of the Revolution for money, but for the liberty of our country and that so long as I am able to make a living for myself, I will not ask charity of our country.” Much of the sentiment of his life is expressed in a verse on the marble shaft that marks his grave in Wolf Creek Cemetery in northeastern Park County, Indiana: “Unyielding in his country’s cause, This Christian patriot stood, Devoted e’vr to right, to laws, To country, Home, to God.
    _____________________________________________________
    The source: Thomas and Elizabeth Summers Allen Quoted from the website: Thomas and Elizabeth Summers Allen by David Allen Roach, their grandson, in 1911

  127. HILLARY’S historic brokering of Turk/Arenian deal getting very liittle play…saw a link on AOL but nowhere else.

  128. JanH, WHose money is he planning on paying off the Taliban with?? The US is out of money or I guess he will fire up those printing presses again!! Send the 40,000 troops in and get rid of them so we will not have to deal with them again.

  129. JanH, I am sick to death of the fraud getting the credit for what she is doing. All I can say is she better get the nomination in 2012 and he better suddenly need to go back to Chicago and spend more time with his family.

  130. ABM90 says:

    “This person has control of our whitehouse,the president and our futures.Dangerous stuff.”

    ~~~~~~~~~

    To put it bluntly, Soros is the “real” president of the US running our country by proxy through Obama.

  131. This is a good story on how George Soros funnels money to Acorn and Healthcare reform.

    The Provocateur
    The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’

    Thursday, July 2, 2009
    George Soros’ Unholy Alliance with ACORN
    What if a corrupt far left billionaire got together with a corrupt but effective grassroots group in an effort to radically change America ? That’s exactly what’s happening between George Soros and ACORN. Think of ACORN as instruments of George Soros grand plan. Soros wants to elect far left candidates, pass universal health care, props up the unions among many liberal ideological goals. Think of ACORN is the tool of implementation of his ideology, or at least a tool. On top of this, every policy which Soros uses ACORN to implement also helps President Obama. That’s the stakes in this unholy alliance.

    For instance, ACORN has an affiliate named Project VOTE. It’s an organization that specializes in GOTV campaigns. Of course, the scam is that this group only goes into areas of the sort of candidate that Soros likes. So, while Project Vote does in fact do voter registration drives they do them almost exclusively in poor, African American neighborhoods. In other words, they would only do voter registration in neighborhoods that would back candidates that Soros would also back. Of course, Soros would never give money to ACORN directly. In fact, here, one of his own affiliates Democracy Alliance, gives money to Project Vote, itself an ACORN affiliate.

    Whenever Soros does business it’s like this. The reason for this is that the world that both Soros and ACORN inhabit is a maze of tax codes. 501 (C)3, 501 (C)4, and Soros favorite 527 among dozens. Each has its own rule for disclosure. The more tax benefits a non profit organization the more it has to disclose. By both Soros and ACORN creating multiple affiliate organizations it’s nearly impossible to track the money. As it moves from one affiliate to another eventually outside folks aren’t allowed to see all their records.
    (O’Reilly’s now famous diagram of Soros affiliates)

    This way all sorts of shenanigans can go on without enough of a paper trail to prove it. There are stories that have reported that Soros was behind, what they call a rigged recount and he used ACORN in just such a way to do it in Minnesota for Al Franken. Of course, it goes without saying that Franken accounts for the 60th and filibuster proof vote in the Senate

    Another way that Soros uses ACORN is in the area of universal health care. Here, the two form an alliance along with several other far left groups called Health Care for America Now. A Politico story recently characterized HCAN as “the groups that represent the base of the Democratic Party”.on the issue of health care. One of the biggest donors in HCAN is the Tides foundation. That’s another Soros affiliate. Meanwhile ACORN is one of a group of more than a dozen different organizations that created HCAN. HCAN runs as a 501 (c)4. Here are all the principles involved in creating this organization.

    ACORN, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, AFT, Americans United for Change, Campaign for
    America’s Future, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Campaign for Community Change, Children’s Defense Fund Action Council, Communications Workers of America, International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW), MoveOn.org, NAACP, National
    Council of La Raza, National Education Association, National Women’s Law
    Center, SEIU, UFCW, USAction, Women’s Voices, Women’s Vote and Working
    America.

    (Of course, you should notice other liberal icons in this group like La Raza, the SEIU,and Moveon.org) This group is now organizing advertisement campaigns against wavering Democrats like Mary Landrieu. They hold rallies, organize town halls, and make phone calls among many different other support activities in order to get universal health care passed. (four minutes into this video in front of HCAN, Congress Woman Jan Schakowski admits that the goal of universal health care is single payer)

    Meanwhile, the guy that runs the Tides Foundation is a gentleman named Drummond Pike. He’s close personal friends with Wade Rathke. Wade Rathke was the long time CEO of ACORN who was removed last summer because he covered up the embezzlement of his brother Dale. When this embezzlement was first made public, Wade turned the embezzlement into a loan and then sold said loan to Pike. As such, ACORN no longer owned the paper on what was owed. It’s one of the perks for ACORN of having wealthy and powerful friends. It’s no different than the quid pro quo they got from Bruce Ratner, owner of the Nets, to build a new stadium in Brooklyn.

    Soros is also a supporter of the unions through his involvement with the SEIU. The SEIU contributes funds to Soros linked organizations, does GOTV activities, and any other grass roots activites for liberal causes. Of course, the local New Orleans 100 SEIU is run and was created by Wade Rathke. Yes, that’s the same Wade Rathke that used to run ACORN. Furthermore, ACORN members often belong to the SEIU as well. The SEIU often uses ACORN to organize Alinsky like demonstrations in order to pressure hospitals, grocery stores, and other places of business to unionize.

    Then, there’s George Soros’ good friends Herb and Marion Sandler. They created the Sub Prime Mortgage Company Golden West. They sold it to Wachovia for $24 billion in 2006. It ultimately lead to the demise of Wachovia. The Sandlers contribute a great deal to an organization called the Center for Responsive Lending. This organization was a champion for Community Reinvestment Act, which championed quotas for bank’s mortgage lending an poorer areas. ACORN used this very CRA in order to perpetuate campaigns of intimidation on bankers in order to get them to comply with the CRA. The Center for Responsive Lending funded a lot of ACORN’s CRA activities.

    There are several things everyone should know. First, at all times their connections are loose and so difficult to track. Second, ironically, all of these connections are made that much easier by McCain/Feingold. In fact, it’s not too far a stretch to say that McCain was used as a pawn by George Soros in creating the shadow government that Soros uses. After all, shadowy groups like 501 (c)3’s and 527’s would have much less power without McCain/Feingold. Now, Soros has a community organizing group to advance the agenda of a President, himself a former community organizer. Under no circumstances should we ever underestimate George Soros.

  132. Basil: on September 26 you said you had read that Soros invested 2.3 billion dollars in ABC. I have looked for that information and could not find it. If you recall where you saw it could you give me the link. Thanks.

  133. …I know it’s coming. And I have just the place for it. Above the fireplace, next to the photo of my parents. They’ll be so proud….

    www dot freep.com/article/20091011/COL01/910110484/1008/NEWS06/If-Obama-can-get-a-Nobel-Peace-Prize–you-can–too

  134. The Soros Obama alliance goes on and on
    with the flow of money and evil cohorts pushing our country into complete disaray and bankruptcy.THe bad stuff on these two traitors is endless.
    -It is well-known that George Soros, the hedge-fund manager, major Democratic Party donor and anti-Israel crusader, has been a generous contributor to Barack Obama. But relatively few people realize that a loophole in McCain-Feingold allowed Soros his family members to be particularly generous in support of Obama’s Senatorial campaign.

    Because Obama was running against Blair Hull in the primary and then Jack Ryan in the general (both multi-millionaires), Obama could, and did, receive especially large donations from individuals, to so-called “millionaires exception.” Normally individuals are limited to giving $2300 to candidates in federal elections, but when candidates are running against millionaires, these limits are lifted and candidates are allowed to receive up to $12,000 from a single individual. Soros and his family gave Barack Obama $60,000. This does not include money that Soros was able to funnel to so-called 527 groups (Moveon.org, for example) that have also been politically active; nor does it include money that Soros was able to raise from tapping a network of friends, business associates, and employees.

    After taking advantage of the special freedom to raise large amounts of money from influential individuals, and as the campaigns entered their closing rounds, news was leaked to media outlets that both Hull and Ryan had personal scandals associated with them. The release of this news devastated both of their campaigns, leading to an easy run to victory for Obama in the primary and then in the general election. The New York Times Magazine revealed earlier in the year that David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political and media adviser, may well have been behind the leak of the story that doomed the Hull candidacy as the primary reached its home stretch.

    Axelrod is known for operating in this gray area, part idealist, part hired muscle. It is difficult to discuss Axelrod in certain circles in Chicago without the matter of the Blair Hull divorce papers coming up. As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull’s second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had “worked aggressively behind the scenes” to push the story. But there are those in Chicago who believe that Axelrod had an even more significant role – that he leaked the initial story. They note that before signing on with Obama, Axelrod interviewed with Hull. They also point out that Obama’s TV ad campaign started at almost the same time. Axelrod swears up and down that “we had nothing to do with it” and that the campaign’s television ad schedule was long planned. “An aura grows up around you, and people assume everything emanates from you,” he told me.

    In mid-March George Soros wrote his latest broadside against the “Israel Lobby”-calling for the Democratic Party to “liberate” itself from the influence of the pro-Israel lobby and stating that America should be dealing with Hamas, the terror group that is now the governing authority of the Palestinians. This was published in the influential New York Review of Books. So inflammatory were Soros’s comments that a few leading Democrats issued rebuttals. While some Congressmen did so personally (Robert Wexler, Eliot Engel), a spokeswoman did so for Barack Obama. Jen Psaki, of the Obama campaign, said,

    “Mr. Soros is entitled to his opinion. But on this issue he and Senator Obama disagree.

    “The U.S. and our allies are right to insist that Hamas – a terrorist organization dedicated to Israel’s destruction – meets very basic conditions before being treated as a legitimate actor. AIPAC is one of many voices that share this view.”
    Obama received some praise for separating himself from George Soros on March 21st, even if he chose to do so through a spokeswoman. The New York Sun ran an article with the headline, “Obama rebuffs Soros” on March 21st . Hope springs eternal, but in this case, not so much.

    New York magazine revealed in an article regarding Barack Obama’s fundraising prowess that a mere two weeks later, after this so-called rebuttal of Soros (on April 9th), Barack Obama attended a fundraiser at the New York residence of Steven and Judy Gluckstern. There was a photo at the beginning of the article of Obama speaking from a stairwell to the small group assembled to give him money for his campaign? None other than…George Soros was in the audience.

    It seems that Obama’s “criticism” (or rather the perfunctory criticism offered by a spokeswoman) of Soros for his anti-Israel diatribe (which was also a veiled insult to American supporters of Israel) has not prevented Barack Obama from socializing with, and receiving money and support from, George Soros.

    Since Barack Obama has proudly proclaimed his purity regarding fundraising ethics, one might ask him two questions about his campaigns against Blair Hull and Jack Ryan. When the scandals surfaced that led to these millionaire opponents withdrawing from the races, did Obama then refuse to accept donations that exceeded normal campaign limits because he was no longer running against millionaires?

    And since he was no longer running against multi-millionaire candidates that could fund their own expensive campaigns, did he see fit to return any of the excess amounts he collected under the millionaire’s exception?————————————————

  135. wbboei, here is something I had not seen before on Soros and how he would legalize the drug trade. Its scary.

    George Soros

    He went from apple harvester to capitalist kingpin to progressive savior. The countercultural investor has more money than you’ve ever heard of, and he just loves to give it away.

    By Alan Deutschman

    March 27, 2001 | Last year, when the great investor George Soros retired, at 70, from his career of speculating with billions of other people’s dollars, it was as if a legendary athlete — his fingers covered with championship rings — had grudgingly given up after a couple of humiliating losing seasons. Soros’ lifetime record was astonishing: If you had invested $1,000 in his Quantum Fund when he started out in 1969, he would have turned your paltry grand into $4 million by the new millennium — a cumulative 32 percent annual return, the financial equivalent of a major-league slugger batting .400 not just for a single season but for three decades.

    Like John D. Rockefeller in a previous generation, Soros found making his billions to be very stressful, and he took much more pleasure in giving them away. Even though he has already given $2.8 billion to his foundation, Soros is still worth around $5 billion. He has promised to give away the rest of his wealth before he turns 80, meaning that his legacy as a philanthropist and reformer could be even greater than it already is.

    Soros achieved his lasting fame early on: Back in 1981 he was hailed as “the world’s greatest money manager” by the bible of the trade, Institutional Investor, which wrote: “As Borg is to tennis, Jack Nicholas is to golf and Fred Astaire is to tap dancing, so is George Soros to money management.”

    Only one other individual — the famed Warren Buffett — rivaled Soros as an investing wizard for the long stretch from the ’60s through the ’90s. Buffett’s approach was dreadfully prosaic — he lived in Omaha, Neb., of all places, bought stocks in a few supersolid companies (among them Coca-Cola, Disney, ABC and the Washington Post) and held onto them forever. Soros, in contrast, was the epitome of guts and glory. He was a short-term speculator who made terrifyingly huge bets on the directions of financial markets.

    No wager was bigger than the time in September 1992 when he risked $10 billion — billion with a B — that the British pound would fall. His instinct was right: That night, while Soros slept in his apartment on New York’s Fifth Avenue, he made $1 billion from the trade. Ultimately his profit reached almost $2 billion — and earned him international notoriety.

    From that point on, Soros had guru status among traders, who believed that he could move markets single-handedly. Presidents and prime ministers constantly feared that Soros would bet against their currencies, and the sheeplike denizens of Wall Street and London’s City would follow him, resulting in sharp devaluations and economic crises. Malaysia’s chief of state demonized him for allegedly ruining that country’s economy during the Asian financial panic. Soros gained a reputation as one of the few names — along with Buffett and Alan Greenspan — that had oracular status in the global economy.

    And then it all went to hell. Soros lost $2 billion in Russia’s default in 1998. The following year he made a big bet that Internet stocks would fall. The basic idea was right, but he was about a year too early, and he quickly lost $700 million. Then he rushed to buy up a bunch of tech stocks, which sank. His embarrassing losses mounted to almost $3 billion when the NASDAQ ultimately did crash in the spring of 2000. That’s when Soros announced that he was withdrawing from an active role at Quantum, which he would transform from a high-risk speculative fund into a conservative institution — a move like Babe Ruth pledging that he would only try to hit singles from now on.

    Soros wasn’t the only legend who suffered an embarrassing fall. Another famous speculator, Julian Robertson — who managed money for New York glitterati such as writer Tom Wolfe — lost billions and had to close down his Tiger Fund last year. Even Buffett had a bad slump. For the small-time day trader at home, moaning as he watched CNBC and logged on to E-Trade and figured that he had just blown the kids’ college tuition fund, it was oddly comforting. It was like watching Tiger Woods triple-bogey every hole on the back nine. If even he could be such a duffer, then you had an excuse.

    But even as Soros retired from Wall Street, his influence in the world had never been greater. For two decades his true passions had been philanthropy and political influence, not investing, and by 2001 he had put a stunning $2.8 billion into his foundation, which promotes liberal democracy throughout the globe. Since 1980, when he began giving financial support to dissidents and human-rights movements such as Poland’s Solidarity, no private citizen has done more to promote reform in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. Newsweek called him “a one-man Marshall Plan.”

    In the ’90s Soros expanded his efforts to Africa, Latin America and even the United States, where the paragon of capitalism became a cult hero to the bohemian counterculture for his outspoken criticism of the drug war and his financial largess for groups advocating drug legalization and medical marijuana ballot initiatives. Although the $30 million he has given toward changing drug policy is a mere crumb of his overall philanthropy, it has helped to remake his image in this country from capitalist kingpin to progressive savior. While Buffett is famous for sipping Cherry Coke, Soros — who doesn’t smoke tobacco, let alone pot — is most celebrated for fostering cannabis clubs.

    Soros was born in Budapest in 1930 as Dzjcgdzhe Shorash and grew up in a family of haute bourgeoisie Hungarian Jews. His father, Tivadar, was an attorney who worked very little, preferring the pursuits of a bon vivant. He owned real estate and published an Esperanto journal. Tivadar’s life of comfort and leisure, made possible in part by a good marriage, came after a perilous youth. He was a lieutenant in World War I when he was taken as prisoner of war on the Russian front and exiled to Siberia. He escaped and lived as a fugitive through the tumult of the Russian Revolution.

    Those survival skills were crucial to the family when the fascists invaded in World War II. Tivadar bribed government officials for false identity papers so his son could pretend to be the godson of a gentile bureaucrat. For a period, the family hid from the Nazis in nearly a dozen different attics and concealed stone cellars.

    After the war the teenage Soros moved to England (he was inspired by BBC broadcasts) and scrounged odd jobs. As a waiter at Quaglino’s, a posh restaurant in London, he wasn’t too ashamed to scavenge the leftover profiteroles. In 1948, at age 18, he supported himself by harvesting apples and painting houses before enrolling at the London School of Economics.

    Soros was strongly influenced by one of his professors there, Karl Popper, author of “The Open Society and Its Enemies.” At a time when leftist intellectuals still had faith in the Marxist religion, Popper argued that Communism was as condemnable as fascism, since both were repressive and intolerant. Popper’s ideas resonated with the young Soros, who had lived under the Nazi and Soviet occupations and had seen both regimes firsthand. Decades later, Popper’s conception of the “open society” would be the basis for Soros’ philanthropic efforts — he would even borrow the term for the title of one of his own books.

    Soros aspired to be an intellectual luminary like Popper, but his grades weren’t top-notch and he had to struggle for his subsistence. During one break from school he did a stint as a night-shift railway porter. In 1952, after receiving his degree, he worked as a handbag salesman before finally getting in the door at a London investment bank. Four years later he moved to New York with only $5,000.

    Soros began to establish himself as a junior trader on Wall Street, but his real ambition remained to become an intellectual in the grand European tradition. Through the early ’60s he tried to rewrite his philosophy dissertation so he could publish it as a book, but his efforts frustrated him.

    “There came a day when I was rereading what I had written the day before, and I couldn’t make sense of it,” he later reminisced in his 1995 book, “Soros on Soros.” “That was when I decided to get back into business … I thought that I had some major new philosophical ideas, which I wanted to express. I now realize that I was mainly regurgitating Karl Popper’s ideas.”

    While Soros was what he liked to call a “failed philosopher,” he excelled as a money manager. In 1969 he went out on his own and established a private investment partnership, or “hedge fund,” that would evolve into what is now the Quantum Fund. His success was quick and conspicuous: Throughout the awful bear markets of the 1970s, when most investors lost money, Soros’ fund was profitable every year, and sometimes he even scored double-digit returns. Quantum had only one losing year in its first two decades — ironically, it was 1981, when Institutional Investor jinxed Soros by putting him on its cover as “the world’s greatest money manager.”

    But Soros’ biggest embarrassment came in October 1987: For a Fortune cover story titled “Are Stocks Too High?” Soros predicted that the U.S. market wouldn’t fall. Only days later Wall Street suffered the crash of ’87. Soros took a $300 million hit, making him one of the biggest losers in the debacle. But even with that big blow, Quantum was actually up 14 percent for the calendar year — a year when Soros’ personal compensation of $75 million made him the second-highest-paid man on Wall Street. He could pull triumph out of disaster.

    Soros settled into his reign as the King of the Street. In 1992, the year that he made his gutsy $10 billion bet on the British pound, Soros’ compensation was $650 million. It was the most lucrative year for any individual in Wall Street’s recent history. (Even Michael Milken reported an annual income of only $550 million at his peak.) In 1993, Soros topped the rest of his peers by making $1.1 billion, which was more than the annual profit of the McDonald’s Corp. Financial World calculated that Soros’ pay was greater than the gross national product of 42 nations. In retrospect, a billion bucks a year seems relatively modest compared with the Internet fortunes of the late ’90s, but back then it was real money.

    Soros’ success sprang partly from his extraordinary energy and relentless drive. He often tested the stamina of his butler and cook by sleeping for only two hours a night before returning to work. But Wall Street is full of supercharged workaholics, which begs the question: What was Soros’ secret? His basic theory of investing was that financial markets are chaotic. The prices of stocks, bonds and currencies depend on the human beings who buy and sell them, and those traders often act out of highly emotional reactions rather than coolly logical calculations.

    Soros didn’t accept the prevailing theory among economics professors, who held that markets are rational, that prices reflect every nuance of hard data and relevant information. He believed that investors influenced one another and moved in herds. Soros’ trick was to try to understand that herd instinct. Most of the time he went along with the mob, but his real killings came from sensing when the trend would turn and getting out in front of the pack.

    And how could he tell the timing of the crucial turning points? Like other investors, Soros had colleagues gather information and perform analyses. But he also had an extraordinary gut. He said that he would have an instinctive physical reaction about when to buy or sell. Normally his composure was cool and emotionless, but when he suffered from a bad backache, he took it as an ominous warning about problems in the market. “I used the onset of acute pain as a signal that there was something wrong in my portfolio,” he once explained. “I rely a great deal on animal instincts.”

    The Soros Foundations’ push for liberalization in Eastern Europe began with a focus on his native Hungary in the early ’80s as a showcase. One of his first coups was surprisingly simple: His foundation discovered that photocopiers were rare in the country, so it gave 400 machines to libraries and universities as a way of fostering free expression and dissemination of ideas.

    Although he started pouring cash into Eastern Europe in the ’80s, it was Soros’ media stardom as an investor that really gave him an unprecedented visibility. “Until 1992, I had difficulty getting an Op-Ed piece on Eastern Europe published in the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times,” he said. From that point forward, Soros’ cash and clout enabled him to hobnob with chiefs of state as if he were one of them. In 1993, after dining with the heads of Moldova and Bulgaria in the same day, he told journalist Michael Lewis: “You see, I have one president for breakfast and another for dinner.”

    Soros’ greatest influence, however, came not from his shuttle diplomacy but, rather, from his donations to dissidents and grass-roots political movements, such as the Otpor student group and other organizations that agitated for the overthrow of Yugoslav tyrant Slobodan Milosevic. Soros shrewdly gave money and equipment to scores of tiny independent TV stations, which used the newer generations of scaled-down apparatus to elude the control of repressive regimes as they broadcast uncensored news. Evelyn Messinger, who worked as director of electronic media for Soros’ foundation, recalls flying to Belgrade with a TV transmitter in her baggage to deliver to an operator.

    Starting in the mid-’90s, Soros pushed his reform efforts into the United States, most conspicuously with his criticisms of the nation’s war on drugs. He argues that the emphasis should be on treating addicts, not on criminalizing them. Soros supports the Lindesmith Center, a leading advocate of drug legalization. The center is run by Ethan Nadelmann, a rabbi’s son and former Princeton professor, who is one of the most outspoken and charismatic crusaders in the cause. Soros has also funded needle exchange and methadone treatment programs and supported medical marijuana ballot initiatives in seven states, including California and Arizona. Joseph Califano Jr., director of Columbia University’s National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, calls Soros “the Daddy Warbucks of drug legalization.”

    “I’ll tell you what I’d do if it were up to me,” Soros says in “Soros on Soros.” “I would establish a strictly controlled distribution network through which I would make most drugs, excluding the most dangerous ones like crack, legally available. Initially I would keep the prices low enough to destroy the drug trade. Once that objective was attained I would keep raising the prices, very much like the excise duty on cigarettes, but I would make an exception for registered addicts in order to discourage crime. I would use a portion of the income for prevention and treatment. And I would foster social opprobrium of drug use.”

    That kind of approach is still a long shot in today’s political climate. But when it’s voiced by someone with the Establishment credentials of George Soros — and billions to spend — it’s an idea that can no longer be dismissed by the pooh-bahs of the political world.

  136. Why on earth is he dredging up “don’t ask, don’t tell”?? This is a controversial subject and a hot one, I imagine this is to get the media off Afganistan.

    He also wants to get rid of BC’s “defense of marriage act”. THese are both Bill Clinton’s. What’s up with all of this.

  137. wbboei, ABC is owned by DIsney. I can’t find any connection for the exception of ABC moving into the whitehouse for healthcare.

    I imagine repeeling the “don’t ask, don’t tell”, and “defense of marriage act”, is the pay back to ABC. What do you think???

  138. I marvel at the skills and knowledge that Hillary has about how diplomacy is conducted while the faux CIC stumbles and bumbles through trivia to cover his lack experience and integrity.This is how Hillary gets things done.

    –Plane Briefing en Route London, U.K.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of StateEn route London

    October 10, 2009

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    SECRETARY CLINTON: This is on the record, yes. Well, we had a good night in Zurich, watching the signing of the protocols between Turkey and Armenia. And now the process continues. We, obviously, are committed to doing everything we can to build on the milestone that was reached today, but it’s challenging. And there is a lot of very difficult, complex issues that have to continually be discussed and worked out. But I am very pleased that we were able to get the protocols signed, and now we move on to the next phase of this.

    QUESTION: What was in the protocol that they objected to? What did the Armenians object to in the statement that was to be delivered by the Turks?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: There were questions of interpretation as to what should or should not be said. These are issues that Phil and I have been dealing with for months. And we were able to get everybody to understand that it was imperative that we go forward, and so we did.

    QUESTION: Can you give us (inaudible)?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, I know.

    (Laughter.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Phil was at the hotel, and learned that there were some problems that had to be worked out. We went back. I was on the phone with Phil, with Minister Nalbandian, with Mr. Davutoglu.

    And then we wanted to get everybody in the same place, instead of having the Swiss come to see us, and then talking to everybody on the phone. So that’s when I went in and spent time talking through some of the concerns that had been expressed, and brought Minister Nalbandian with us back to the university, so that the chief Swiss negotiator, (inaudible), plus our other counterparts, Ministers Lavrov, Kouchner, Solana, and —

    PARTICIPANT: (Inaudible.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, right, (inaudible), were all in the same place. We began to talk it through.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

    QUESTION: Why not have any statements of —

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes.

    QUESTION: Why not have the statements afterwards? Why was that decided?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first of all, it got awfully late. I was already two hours late. Lavrov was late. Everybody was late. The foreign minister from (inaudible) had already missed his plane. So it was sensible to get the signing done, and then people could issue their statements, which I am sure they’re doing. And we’re working on a joint statement among the witnesses.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible) for an hour?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Because I was on the phone. And I was talking to Phil, I was talking to Nalbandian, and I was talking to Davutoglu, and we were — and talking to the Swiss. And so, we were trying to get everything worked out so we could move forward. And that’s when I — so when I left the car, I went to ask Minister Nalbandian to drive with me to the university, which he did.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible) what is the most difficult diplomatic thing that you have done so far?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I mean, we do diplomatic —

    ASSISTANT SECRETARY GORDON: Things?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: — things, yes —

    (Laughter.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: — of varying degrees of difficulty. Kind of like diving every day. Some of you were with me in Honduras. That was also a very challenging negotiation, which finally worked out very well.

    But I think it’s just what you sign up for. I mean, this is — when you’re trying to help people resolve long-standing problems between themselves, it is a very challenging process. People have a lot of history that they have to contend with. They have all kinds of domestic, political challenges. The Armenians, as we saw with President Sargsian’s tour, have people around the world with strong feelings. So, it is — you know, it is a challenge, but that is what we’re trying to work out here.

    QUESTION: Are there —
    QUESTION: (Inaudible) the possibility of ratification (inaudible)?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, they’re both going to be submitting the protocols to their parliaments, and it’s going to be difficult. But that’s the next step of the process.

    QUESTION: So what was it that got — what was it that allowed them to sign? What was the deal that was reached? (Inaudible.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: I think that — I think there was an agreement that the protocols should speak for themselves. I mean, they have been carefully, painstakingly negotiated over many months. And, at the end of the day, that was what the substance of this was about, what the protocol said.

    People are free to say whatever else they want, but let the protocols be the statement. Because, in effect, that’s what we were there to sign.

    QUESTION: Can I ask what is probably a completely obvious question? Why did it take three hours to get them to agree not to do something?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Phil and I have negotiated over press releases that have taken days. So, actually, this is pretty speedy, all things considered.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

    QUESTION: I just want to — I mean, why — were they both insistent on giving (inaudible) statements?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: I will let Phil pick that up.

    ASSISTANT SECRETARY GORDON: When there are multiple parties involved — and the Secretary mentioned that we also have, you know, the Russians and Solana, and the French, and the Swiss — you know, you can’t just do this in one second. You have to talk to the different actors involved, and be careful, and make sure you get everything right. And three hours is actually not — I mean, the Secretary was joking, but a lot of these statements that you see released, when you see the final product, they take an awful lot of time of rolling up the sleeves and talking about issues.

    QUESTION: Can you give us any kind of a flavor for what the sticking points were? Just a flavor of what the sticking points were?

    ASSISTANT SECRETARY GORDON: No. I think, you know, you can talk to the parties. I don’t think we need to get into the details of diplomatic discussions. Look at the protocols, and you know what this is all about. And the protocols, as the Secretary says, speak for themselves.

    QUESTION: Why is —

    QUESTION: Was there a critical moment where you said to the principals, “Look, guys, this is too important. We can’t let this whole thing unravel?” Because — if there is such a moment, could you give us a flavor?
    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, there were several such moments, because we believe strongly that this is in the best interests of both Armenia and Turkey. We recognize how hard it is, and what courage it takes to move forward in the face of very strong opposition in both countries.

    So, there were several times when I said to all of the parties involved that this is too important, that this has to be seen through. “You’ve come too far, all of the work that has gone into the protocols, you know, should not be walked away from. And will there be continuing difficulties in working this out? Of course there will be. But you have agreed on these protocols. So let’s sign those, and then we will go on to the next stage.” And eventually, everyone decided that would be —

    QUESTION: Who did more of the talking in the car ride down to the university, you or the Armenian?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: I did a lot of talking, didn’t I? Yes.

    (Laughter.)

    QUESTION: Was that a kind of a — was that a moment where you were able to bring your point across?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, we just kept making our point.

    ASSISTANT SECRETARY GORDON: She looks pretty good. She’s been on a plane all night, and —

    QUESTION: Four minutes until the —

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, he had some really deep concerns, and wanted to make sure people understood them, which we — Phil and I — conveyed that we not only did understand, but we appreciated how hard this was, but that this needed to be done.

    QUESTION: Did you have to call the President?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes. Yes. Several times.

    QUESTION: From the car or the hotel?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Hotel and university.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Phil and I have been kidding about this, because —

    QUESTION: You weren’t supposed to negotiate, right, you were just going to witness?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, but we know that this is always fraught with potential complexities. And so, we said, “Look, we think we’re going to go, and we will be able to witness this.” But we weren’t surprised at all.

    QUESTION: The parties are —

    QUESTION: (Inaudible) said the dispute was over language that would say something about, “We will negotiate” — something about peace in the Caspian region, and that the Turks — the Armenians objected, because it was a reference to the occupied territory in Azerbaijan.

    SECRETARY CLINTON: There were concerns from both sides. It’s really not accurate to characterize the questions as only coming from one side. There were concerns on both sides.

    QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

    SECRETARY CLINTON: We are going to leave with Phil, and —

    QUESTION: Madame Secretary, one last thing. There was this major attack in Pakistan.

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes.

    QUESTION: Are you in a position to say anything? I know you have been very busy, but —

    SECRETARY CLINTON: No. But, I mean, I’ve been briefed about it. I am not in a position to say anything about the specifics of it, other than to point out this shows the continuing threat to the Pakistani government, and the very important steps that the civilian leadership, along with the military, are taking to root out the extremists, and to prevent, you know, violence and direct assault on the sovereignty of the state.

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  139. confloyd Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 7:00 am

    Thanks, confloyd for posting that article. No wonder Obama can’t make a decisive decision. The man doing his thinking for him has a confused mind based in delusions of grandeur, devoid of logic, thinking he can create himself into an intellectual mind.

    Now you have a brain behind a brain where neither one is conferred with the gift of intellectual prowess trying to express and expound a theory not yet in practice because neither one possess the intellect or understanding, as distinguished from the faculties of feeling and willing as Soros demonstrates when he says, “when he suffered from a bad backache, he took it as an ominous warning about problems in the market. “I used the onset of acute pain as a signal that there was something wrong in my portfolio,” he once explained. “I rely a great deal on animal instincts.”

    If you wonder why the country is at a standstill or stagnated, the combination of Soros and Obama st the helm is the reason why-

  140. ABM90,

    Thank you so much for the interview with Hillary. I really enjoyed reading it.

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    Confloyd,

    Once again your research shines. Thanks for posting those Soros articles.

  141. nuh-uh. poor bambi doesn’t qualify for the literature prize either. So much plagiarism and ghost writing.

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    Obama burdened by great expectationsFont Size:

    October 12, 2009
    The Australian

    JUSTIFYING his Nobel Peace Prize will be a very hard task.

    PERHAPS the Nobel committee got their awards mixed up and meant to honour Barack Obama with the award for literature rather than the peace prize. To date, the American President’s greatest achievement in international affairs is oratory, in particular his appeal to the Muslim Middle East to engage with the Western world delivered in Cairo in June. But giving Mr Obama the peace prize makes it an award for encouragement rather than achievement, and a repudiation of his predecessor as president, George W.Bush. Mr Obama has set an ambitious foreign policy agenda. He is determined to end US engagement in Iraq and to secure peace in Afghanistan. He wants a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians; he is determined that Iran and North Korea will abandon their plans for weapons of mass destruction. He wants better relations with Russia, and nuclear non-proliferation. It is a wish-list born either of arrogance or optimism, and after a bare nine months in office it is not surprising he has delivered none of it. But if he achieves half of what he hopes by the time he leaves office, he will merit a second peace prize.

    The Nobel committee obviously hopes he will have a go. Mr Obama is immensely popular in Europe because his rhetoric seems to set a new course for American foreign relations. Many Europeans were uncomfortable with Mr Bush’s unabashed belief in the ability of the US to lead the world. Where Mr Bush talked of an American obligation to defend democracy, and all who aspire to it around the world, Mr Obama wants to end old enmities. Where Mr Bush declared a war on terror, invading Iraq and holding America’s enemies without trial at Guantanamo Bay, Mr Obama talks of working within multilateral forums. Where Mr Bush believed in American exceptionalism, Mr Obama makes it clear that he respects other cultures. And where Mr Bush was an unequivocal ally of Israel, Mr Obama makes it clear he expects the Israelis to make concessions for peace. Any of these difference alone are enough to endear Mr Obama to Europeans, who believe the West must compromise rather than confront its enemies.

    But in endorsing his agenda, the Nobel committee increased expectations that Mr Obama will conduct a consensual foreign policy involving allies and cajoling rather than confronting nations that threaten world peace. And in doing so, they burden him with impossible expectations. The idea of Iran and North Korea giving up their nuclear aspirations without threat of severe sanctions, or military action if required, is unlikely. Mr Obama’s special Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, is following many others who have unsuccessfully sought a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians. And while Mr Obama is benefiting from the Bush administration’s successful strategy in Iraq, with the country looking like it could become a functioning democracy, there is no sign of a victory in Afghanistan. The test of Mr Obama’s commitment to multilateralism is yet to come. Like Mr Bush before him, there will come a time when he needs to act on emergencies, such as Iran’s nuclear ambitions, while the Europeans want to debate rather than act. And the reasons for this award will be used against him when, as he inevitably will, he uses the military to protect specifically American interests.

    Mr Obama is the fourth American president to win the Nobel Peace Prize. His predecessors fall into two camps – those recognised for accomplishments and those honoured for their ideals. Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906, mainly for brokering peace between Russia and Japan after their war over Manchuria. In 1919, Woodrow Wilson was honoured for creating the League of Nations, the predecessor to the UN. But for all his idealism, Wilson could not convince the Senate to approve the US joining the League. And Jimmy Carter was awarded the peace prize 20 years after losing office, less for what little he accomplished in international relations than as a lifetime achievement award for proselytising for peace.

    The difference between these three and Mr Obama is they were honoured for what they had done, not what they were expected to do. In increasing what the world expects of Mr Obama, the Nobel committee has done him nofavour.

    theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26195934-16741,00.html

  142. ABM90 Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    I marvel at the skills and knowledge that Hillary has about how diplomacy is conducted while the faux CIC stumbles and bumbles through trivia to cover his lack experience and integrity.This is how Hillary gets things done.

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    Yes, ABM90- Hillary’s brilliance is evident in her knowledge of World history. History is the common denominator all of the countries rely on using past grievances as leverage for tipping the scales in their favor. Hillary’s knowledge of all sides of the equation with the countries involved is the force she implements so deftly and beautifully to the advantage of all resulting in a Win-Win resolution.

    Hillary is precious to our survival.

  143. Wbboei,
    I wouldn’t doubt this is true but i didn’t post it.
    # wbboei Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 3:06 am
    Basil: on September 26 you said you had read that Soros invested 2.3 billion dollars in ABC. I have looked for that information and could not find it. If you recall where you saw it could you give me the link. Thanks.
    BTW – ABC continues its decline. Caught a glimpse of it this morning and along with bradzilla, they’ve added Ariana Huffinton to their panelist pool.
    Next it will be Oprah and then MO. So it wouldn’t surprise me to learn Soros had invested billions in the network.

  144. Dissidents out of step – Clinton

    Hillary Clinton speaking about Northern Ireland ahead of her visit there

    A rise in dissident republican activity in Northern Ireland is “out of step” with the peace process, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said. Mrs Clinton, speaking in London as part of her tour of Europe, said it was “imperative” the Good Friday Agreement was “seen all the way to conclusion”.

    She is to travel to Dublin and Belfast after a meeting with Gordon Brown.

    Mrs Clinton and Foreign Secretary David Miliband also re-iterated their faith in the US-UK “special relationship”. After a breakfast meeting between the two, Mrs Clinton paid tribute to the “special bond” between Britain and the US and spoke of her admiration for the “incredible courage and commitment” of British troops in Afghanistan.

    The Afghan war and concerns over Iran’s nuclear programme were expected to be on the agenda at her meeting with Gordon Brown at Chequers.

    Personal commitment

    Mrs Clinton’s comments on Northern Ireland come as Irish republican paramilitary group the Irish National Liberation Army is expected to announce it is renouncing violence. Police have recently begun what is being described as a major operation aimed at disrupting what is seen as increased dissident republican activity this year.

    Mr Miliband paid tribute to Mrs Clinton’s “personal commitment” to the peace process in Northern Ireland for more than 15 years. On her visit, she is expected to push for a break in the deadlock over a date for the devolution of policing and justice powers.

    Mrs Clinton said: “Those who would try to disrupt the peace of people going about their daily lives are out of step and out of time.”

    Asked about the potential that financial support was being provided by US sympathisers, she added: “There is no support… the best we can tell is that those who try to inflict harm on others and cause damage are funding their evil enterprise from criminal gains and we hope to see an end to all of that.”

    Her visit comes as an Irish republican paramilitary group responsible for dozens of murders during Northern Ireland’s Troubles is set to announce it is renouncing violence.

    The Irish National Liberation Army is expected to say on Sunday that in future it will pursue exclusively peaceful means.

    bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8301276.stm

  145. Clinton woos Russia over Iran sanctions

    US charm offensive aims to persuade Israel not to attack Iran over nuclear weapons development

    by Paul Harris in New York The Observer, Sunday 11 October 2009

    Amid increasing fears of an Israeli strike against Iran, America will this week press Russia to support a threat of tougher sanctions against Tehran in an attempt to avert possible military action.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will meet Russian president Dmitry Medvedev and his foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, on Tuesday with worries about Iran’s nuclear ambitions at the top of the agenda. Clinton, who began a five-day European trip yesterday, is expected to push Russia to support a move for stronger sanctions in the wake of recent revelations about a secret uranium enrichment site near the Iranian city of Qom. Washington wants Russia to back the sanctions if Iran does not agree to halt its enrichment activities.

    American officials also believe that tough sanctions supported by Iran’s traditional allies, China and Russia, could go some way to mollifying Israeli hawks who have been making increasingly militant noises about Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

    But there is no guarantee that Clinton’s diplomatic push will actually get Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment programme by the end of the year, as Washington has demanded. Russia has been a hard sell in putting sanctions in place against Iran, and officials are sceptical that Moscow will fully support the latest moves. There are fears that Iran’s agreement to let UN inspectors into the Qom site, and its reopening of talks between Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator and diplomats from the US, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany may have persuaded the Russians thatno further steps were needed.

    In the face of Iran’s apparent determination to secretly develop its nuclear facilities, Russia has recently struck a harder tone, although it has still not explicitly backed new sanctions. Last week, in a pre-recorded television interview, Medvedev said that Russia did not want to see any more nations develop nuclear weapons.

    “The expansion of the ‘nuclear club’ is very much not in our interests,” he said. However, he failed to address the sanctions issue directly.

    One factor aiding Clinton might be Russia’s reaction to Barack Obama’s decision to abandon plans left over from the George W Bush era to base a missile defence system in eastern Europe. The plans were intensely disliked by Moscow. Although scrapping them brought criticism from some European nations and US conservatives, the move was welcomed in Moscow and could signal a thaw in relations and perhaps ease co-operation on thorny issues such as Iran. Other matters for Clinton and Medvedev to discuss will include arms control and the worsening situation in Afghanistan and North Korea.

    Last week, tensions over Iran rose further after Israeli deputy defence secretary Ephraim Sneh said Israel could attack Iran by Christmas if further sanctions were not introduced. The comments were the latest in a series of statements by Sneh that have struck an increasingly militant tone. In mid-September, he told the Dow Jones newswire: “If they, by weakness and by stupidity, allow the bomb, we have no choice. We can’t allow them to continue. It’s urgent.”

    Now Sneh’s most recent comments have seen Iran complain last week to the United Nation’s general secretary Ban Ki Moon. Mohammed Khazaee, Iran’s ambassador to the UN, wrote to Moon, saying that such words were “irresponsible” in international diplomacy. “There is no explanation for Israel’s continuing threats against Tehran,” he wrote.

    However, some Iranian officials have responded in kind. At the end of last week, a senior Iranian commander in the Revolutionary Guard threatened an instant and devastating response to any Israeli attack. Mojtaba Zolnour, the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s representative in the Guard, said it would attack Israel with missiles if a US or Israeli missile landed in Iran. “Should a single American or Zionist missile land in our country, before the dust settles, Iranian missiles will blow up the heart of Israel,” Zolnour told the state IRNA news agency.

    guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/11/hillary-clinton-iran-sanctions

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    So we all know how busy Hillary is going to be this week. Anyone know bambi’s agenda?

  146. confloyd Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 7:27 am

    Why on earth is he dredging up “don’t ask, don’t tell”?? This is a controversial subject and a hot one, I imagine this is to get the media off Afganistan.

    He also wants to get rid of BC’s “defense of marriage act”. THese are both Bill Clinton’s. What’s up with all of this.

    ===========================

    He might be saying this to damage Bill Clinton, by giving the impression that BC is to blame for these things.

    In fact the Clintons went in in the 90s planning to give gays in the military full rights, no secrecy required, by executive order. This got so much opposition from Congress and military brass that they finally settled on “don’t ask don’t tell” as the best compromise they could get — which was an improvement on the previous “search and destroy” policy.

    DOMA is more complicated but basically the same scenario: they took the best compromise they could get. At that time the anti-gay people had enough power to do a constitutional amendment which would have been worse. The Clintons settled for a DOMA that headed off the cons amend and had more wiggle room in it.

    I remember seeing a good quote from Hillary in 2008 explaining this. Somehow I associate it with a pink background.

  147. Confloyd: that is a real puff piece on Soros. If you had only that to go on you might think he was some kind of hero when nothing could be further from the truth.

    As for the author he presents a revisionist history which is so sanitized that one might assume Soros is a saint. Why? I think this writer sees himself as is part of that global elite, He is an expert on change and would like to be part of the globalization process. His client list reveals as much. I regard his work on the subject pretty good. But his motives in the Soros piece are not only transparent, they are vulgar IMO.

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    Deutschman is the former Executive Director of Unboundary, a strategy consulting firm whose clientele includes top executives at major companies such as FedEx and Charles Schwab. In a 19-year career as a business journalist, Deutschman has been the Silicon Valley correspondent for Fortune; a senior writer at GQ, where he wrote the “Profit Motive” column; and a contributing editor at Vanity Fair, where he has co-authored the “New Establishment” power list for the past decade. Most recently, he was a senior writer for Fast Company.

  148. George Soros

    He went from apple harvester to capitalist kingpin to progressive savior. The countercultural investor has more money than you’ve ever heard of, and he just loves to give it away.

    By Alan Deutschman

    March 27, 2001

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    Sounds a bit puffy pro-Soros, but are its facts wrong?

  149. puff piece or not, wbboei, for those of us…namely me, who doesn’t have that much background knowledge about Soros, I’ll take all I can to get a better picture of just how evil this guy is.

  150. wbboei/turndown, I posted the piece because of the last area about the drugs legalization. It is downright a horrible idea to legalize all drugs, make then cheap, then raise the price of them. Sounds like a devilish thing to do. Get everyone (poor people) hooked on cheap drugs then raise the price. Sounds like a capitalist idea to me. One that might of come from a person who was responsible for taking out the gold filling of the dead jews during the holocaust.

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    “I’ll tell you what I’d do if it were up to me,” Soros says in “Soros on Soros.” “I would establish a strictly controlled distribution network through which I would make most drugs, excluding the most dangerous ones like crack, legally available. Initially I would keep the prices low enough to destroy the drug trade. Once that objective was attained I would keep raising the prices, very much like the excise duty on cigarettes, but I would make an exception for registered addicts in order to discourage crime. I would use a portion of the income for prevention and treatment. And I would foster social opprobrium of drug use.”

  151. The Sunday shows were excellent in that they roasted Bambi and his new trophy. I had to turn off David Gregory, he is so anti-war it makes me sick. If were not going to finish something don’t fucking start the damn war in the first place. This world is littered with our politically inspired wars and strategies that have made things horrible for our fellow man. I think we need to finish the Taliban off since all they will do is turn into Al Queda’s. We have given many women in Afganistan hope for education, and safety, how can we go back on our word now??

  152. Here you have George Soros was in the area to buy Bambi his new trophy.

    COPENHAGEN (Reuters) – Billionaire George Soros said on Saturday that he would invest $1 billion in clean energy technology as part of an effort to combat climate change.
    The Hungarian-born U.S. investor also announced he would form and fund a new climate policy initiative with $10 million a year for 10 years.

    “Global warming is a political problem,” Soros told a meeting of editors in the Danish capital where governments are scheduled to meet in December to try to hammer out a new global climate agreement to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.

    “The science is clear, what is less clear is whether world leaders will demonstrate the political will necessary to solve the problem,” he said, according to a brief email statement.

    His remarks came a day after climate talks in Bangkok ended in deadlock over how much cash should be made available to poorer nations to help them cope with climate change and over the size of rich countries’ greenhouse gas emissions cuts.

    Soros said he would apply stringent criteria to his investments in clean energy technologies.

    “I will look for profitable opportunities, but I will also insist that the investments make a real contribution to solving the problem of climate change,” Soros said.

    (Reporting by John Acher)

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  153. Now we know who will make money off green technologies. George Soros of coarse. We, the taxpayers, bought him an oil well in Brazil, why not give him all the money to be made out of green technology. He can share it with Al.

  154. Arianna Huff n Puff is officially off the kool-aid. Donna Brazille got her butt kicked this morning by none other than Huff n Puff.

  155. Diane Feinstein is on George’s show this morning. I like what she is saying about McCrystal and Afghanistan. She basically said that if you are going to send someone of his high calibre into Afghanistan to evaluate and bring back recommendations, then she doesn’t understand why you (obama) wouldn’t take them.

  156. Feinstein is kicking that liberal’s butt today. I can’t think of his name, he reeks of liberalism. I don’t know what is taking Obama so long to decide what to do. It reminds me of the pirate problem. He just can’t make a decision, all he does is philosphise.

  157. confloyd,

    Every time brazillion used the phrase…the movement wants to do this…the movement wants to do that….grrrr

    I just wanted to throw something at the t.v. I settled for muting it whenever she appeared.

    What movement?

    This is indeed a presidency of presentation. No accomplishments but hey at least the speeches are pretty if empty.

  158. And once again Hillary cleans up obama’s mess

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    Clinton stresses strong U.S.-Britain relations

    2009-10-12

    LONDON, Oct. 11 (Xinhua) — Visiting U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Sunday afternoon at Chequers, the prime minister’s official country residence, reiterating her faith in the U.S.-Britain special relations.

    The situation in Northern Ireland, military strategy in Afghanistan, Iran’s nuclear program and climate change also dominated their agenda.

    The pair reportedly also discussed the current situation in Pakistan and India.

    Clinton’s visit came at a time when bilateral ties got in sour due to U.S. irritation over the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Brown had reportedly been snubbed by the White House after requesting a private meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama when he traveled to New York and Pittsburgh last month.

    On the Northern Ireland peace process, the U.S. secretary of state said it was imperative the Good Friday Agreement was seen all the way to conclusion. It is reported that the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) on Sunday afternoon announced an end to its violence in Northern Ireland. A representative of the Irish Republican Socialist Party (IRSP) said: “The objective of a 32-county socialist republic will be best achieved exclusively through political, peaceful means.”

    The U.S. diplomat later flew to Dublin for talks with Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen on Sunday. They will discuss a range of international issues, as well as the close relationship between Ireland and the United States.

    xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/12/content_12213432.htm

  159. # confloyd Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Arianna Huff n Puff is officially off the kool-aid. Donna Brazille got her butt kicked this morning by none other than Huff n Puff.

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    Donna Brazile is the scum of the earth. All she cares about is $$$ opportunities for herself and her cronys. I wish I had seen Huff-O blistering her six ways from Sunday… maybe there will be a video..

  160. Bill Clinton Funding the World’s Largest Solar Power Project

    10/11/09

    A giant 3,000 MW solar power station is being set up in Gujarat, in northwestern India. The estimated cost of this project is going to be about $10 bn. Logistic and financial support is being provided by the William J Clinton foundation, founded by the former President Bill Clinton.

    “The Clinton Foundation will help us in bringing manufacturers and power generators and also in providing access to international funding at cost-effective interest rates,” said S. Jagdeesan, principal secretary, energy and petrochemicals in the government of Gujarat in an interview. “They are facilitators. We will invest in the infrastructure.” The project is going to be developed on 10,000 hectares of land spread across three locations within an area of 150 square kilometers (58 square miles) in Gujarat, reports a Bloomberg research.

    The Clinton Foundation works on issues such as AIDS, poverty and climate change in the developing nations of the world.

    benzinga.com/general/22933/bill-clinton-funding-the-world%E2%80%99s-largest-solar-power-project

  161. Mrs. Smith,

    I’m not a Huffington fan, but she dissed brazille’s comments about “the movement.” She basically told brazille that this same movement was cracking because of the dire straits Americans are finding themselves in, i.e. unemployment, losing homes, health care, etc… And that they were disilusioned that nothing was being done by bambi and the dims to stem the bleeding.

  162. JanH Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Clinton stresses strong U.S.-Britain relations

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    sud
    This is incredible- Is this my imagination? Where media has suddenly so much reportage about Hillary’s work with our foreign diplomatic relations? Treatys signed, mending fences with our allies, working on the Irish Peace process, discussing a military strategy in Afghanistan, Iran’s nuclear program and climate change all over the course of a few days?

    Hey! Adding to her already great resume outlining her credentials for the presidency.

  163. # JanH Says:
    October 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
    Mrs. Smith,

    I’m not a Huffington fan, but she dissed brazille’s comments about “the movement.” She basically told brazille that this same movement was cracking because of the dire straits Americans are finding themselves in, i.e. unemployment, losing homes, health care, etc… And that they were disilusioned that nothing was being done by bambi and the dims to stem the bleeding.

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    Thanks for the info-

    No doubt Brazile when referring to “the movement” is referring to promises made to AA’s during the campaign how AA would be CEO’s of their own businesses, all other ethnicities, (specifically whites) would be restricted from participation.

  164. There is a slight whiff of condescension attending the announcement that Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. There is the sense that he has won simply by not being George W. Bush. Effete Europe is congratulating rowdy America for cleaning up its act and not bringing guns to the dinner table.

    Well, I’m as relieved as anybody that the Bushian gunslingers have been given the gate and, as regular readers know, I’m a big fan of patient, rigorous diplomacy–and there’s a certain lovely irony to any prize that brings the Taliban and the neoconservative Commentary crowd together in high dudgeon–but let’s face it: this prize is premature to the point of ridiculousness. It continues a pattern that holds some peril for Obama: he is celebrated for who he is not, and for who he might potentially be, rather than for what he has actually done. If he doesn’t provide results that justify the award, this Nobel will prove a millstone come election time

    Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/09/no-peace-no-prize/?xid=yahoo-feat#ixzz0TeHsZzSj

  165. Mrs. Smith,

    Hillary is the only one who makes him look good at a time when everything is falling apart and he looks more and more like a b-grade movie star.

    They are reporting on her hard work and accomplishments so that the glory can go to their master.

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