Newsom For Governor; Martha Coakley For Senate; Hillary For President

Let’s be clear, Dimocrats must suffer shattering defeats in the 2010 elections (let’s not forget the few 2009 elections and what is really happening there) if we are to have a Democratic Party in the foreseeable future or ever. The Democratic Party modeled on the FDR winning coalition must be restored. Obama must be rejected. More importantly Obamaism must be rejected too.

With the above in mind, those of us who reject Obama and his Obamination Party must have allies in elected office. We must be very selective in whom we endorse.

Bill Clinton will endorse Gavin Newsom today in the California governor’s race. Big Media wants to debase the discussion, yet again, by dragging the name of Jerry Brown into the discussion, but Brown is not the concern.

Gavin Newsom is our choice. In the California nomination race we agree with Bill Clinton:

But Newsom curried favor with the former president in 2008, when he endorsed and campaigned actively for Hillary Clinton during her quest for the Democratic presidential nomination. The 42nd president is now returning the favor by throwing his weight around in a Democratic primary, as he has done with other 2010 candidates who backed Hillary’s bid last year.

The endorsement by Bill Clinton of Gavin Newsom corners Obama even more than he already is. Bill Clinton is now supportive of gay marriage rights and Obama – Jack Squat.

We documented Obama’s gay-bashing in many articles we have written. In this one we quoted an article in San Francisco Gate regarding Newsom’s history with gay-basher Barack Obama:

“I gave a fundraiser, at his (Obama’s) request at the Waterfront restaurant,” said former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown. “And he said to me, he would really appreciate it if he didn’t get his photo taken with my mayor. He said he would really not like to have his picture taken with Gavin.”

Today, of course, Obama’s people are backpedaling away from that account like crazy. His deputy campaign director, Steve Hildebrand, who lives with his partner as an openly gay man, calls it “a ridiculous story.” [snip]

But insiders at City Hall, both current and former members of Newsom’s staff, recall the incident well. And you can bet that Newsom hasn’t forgotten it either.

“He was pissed,” said one former staffer.

In fact, early last year, Newsom alluded to the incident in an interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Speaking to Reuters on Jan. 26, 2007, Newsom was asked about three potential Democratic candidates: Obama, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. [snip]

“One of the three Democrats you mentioned as presidential candidates, as God is my witness, will not be photographed with me, will not be in the same room with me,” Newsom told Reuters, “even though I’ve done fundraisers for that particular person – not once, but twice – because of this issue.”

Gavin Newsom, a Hillary supporter, winning an election while Craig Deeds in Virginia runs away from Barack Obama like a scalded cat, will clue in a few clueless Dimocrats – not to mention the help in can provide in the future.

Obama is Jack Squat on Gay rights. Obama is a gay-basher and even the Hillary hating boobs on Americablog are having to live in their Obama supporting filth:

Apparently, General Jones would have us believe that President Obama wasn’t aware that we were fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when he promised to lift the gay ban during the campaign in exchange for our votes. So, Jones tells us today, Obama can’t get to that particular promise right now because he’s busy fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Uh huh.

So when exactly are both of those wars going to be over? I’m guessing some time after Obama leaves office. And that of course assumes that we don’t have more wars to “distract” the president.

Jones just set us back. Again. He just gave the Republicans, and conservative Dems, the perfect talking point. Should anyone – members of Congress or the administration – move to lift the ban any time before these wars are over, our opponents will simply quote General Jones saying that to lift the ban during war time would be too distracting. [snip]

In the end, don’t think that Jones is simply freelancing. There is no way a senior administration official goes on TV and keeps screwing up like this. At first it’s a screw up. After this many times, it’s part of the plan. And the plan is to move the goal posts again and again and again until Obama can pass his gay rights promises to the next president, assuming we get a Democrat elected again this century.

Obama is a gay-basher you boobs, when will you learn, when will you apologize to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton? In all likelihood you will never apologize because you and Andrew Sullivan are boobs listening to Clinton hating boobs who whisper in your ears and you are too stupid to recognize the truth when it slaps you in the face.

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In Massachusetts, Martha Coakley supported Hillary Clinton even though Ted Kennedy drove the Democratic Party there over the bridge. All the big, Kennedy/Kerry/Patrick strutting did not stop Hillary, with the help of Coakley, from a double digit win in the primaries. It’s time to support Coakley.

An email from a Coakley supporter quotes Coakley when she endorsed Hillary:

What poetic justice it would be to have a woman win Ted Kennedy’s seat since, were it not
for his early support of Obama, HIllary Clinton would be President today. [snip]

[Martha Coakley’s endorsement of Hillary: “I am determined to see a successful Democratic campaign for President in November. . . . However, as one of two unpledged delegates elected by the Massachusetts State Committee, I have determined to cast my vote for Hillary Clinton. Running for office under any circumstances is arduous and stressful; it is at times exhilarating and at times exhausting. It tests the issues, the families and supporters, and the very core of the candidate. Running for President of the United States is all of that many times over. Regardless of the outcome of the primary, Mrs. Clinton’s energy, stamina, and resolve have changed the course of history for women seeking office, including the presidency, and I dare say, have changed the course of history of Presidential politics in the United States. It is for these reasons that I will vote for Hillary Clinton in August at the Nominating Convention.”

Martha Coakley kept her word. Ricki Lieberman and the naughty boys at HillBuzz (along with those Massachusetts residents with whom we have discussed this selection) have also endorsed Martha Coakley. Here’s Hillbuzz:

For those of you who don’t know, Martha Coakley is a strong Hillary Clinton supporter. Coakley was a Clinton delegate to the Convention in Denver and refused to surrender her vote to Dr. Utopia, even when Deval Patrick and the Kennedy spiders pressured her to do so. Coakley stood by Clinton, and Clinton Democrats need to stand by Coakley now.

To everyone out there, those of you who remained loyal to Hillary Clinton have our friendship, love, and loyalty in return forever. Those who sided with Dr. Utopia, like Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Howard Dean, John Edwards, Tom Daschle, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Claire McCaskill — well, you deserve what you get.

Martha Coakley deserves to have that Senate seat.

Please help make Martha Coakley the first female Senator from Massachusetts.

Team Hillary rides again!

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One final note regarding Hillary Clinton. In the past we were opposed to Hillary taking the Secretary of State job. We also stated that Hillary was the one with all the facts about the conditions for taking that task on and the only one with full knowledge of her intentions and wishes. We supported whatever decision she wished to make.

Hillary decided to become Secretary of State and eventually we were happy to see that in that position she was able to distance herself from the current mess that Obama flings America into on a daily basis – a distance she would not have been able to maintain as an U.S. Senator.

We have been happy that Hillary has been able to keep herself in the public eye, have jobs for her allies thereby keep a segment of her organization together, and gather even more credibility – all while Bill Clinton keeps the Clinton political franchise alive and well and powerful.

Bill and Hillary should keep the franchise alive, not because of their fans (no worship at Big Pink, just deep respect and trust) but because they are the ones with the common sense and ability to get the United States out of the mess Big Media, George W. Bush, and Hopium addicts have gotten us into.

More recently we broached the topic of Hillary’s resignation. We know that Hillary needs to get out but we have not been sure of when. We wrote that Hillary could get out before the Obama mess gets even bigger or after the 2010 elections when the Dimocrats begin to see the bleak future if they stick by Obama and Obamaism’s Situation Comedy coalition.

We now think that it is probably best for Hillary to wait for after the 2010 elections to resign. Our reasoning is that thus far Hillary has shown a remarkable alacrity to travel far when Dimocrats surely want her in the United States to argue on behalf of the policies of that Chicago Clown of Corruption, Barack Obama. We are not worried, but rather relieved, that Hillary is keeping a low profile. We don’t want her associated with the Obama clowns.

We therefore surmise that by remaining as Secretary of State until after the 2010 elections Hillary will be precluded from helping to campaign and therefore elect Dimocratic creeps. Bill Clinton will still travel the country selectively to endorse worthwhile Democrats who might assist any future endeavors.

Hillary can travel the world displaying her quality.

Team Hillary is still together in winter quarters, waiting for the order to march.

In California and Massachusetts, some of the troops are getting exercise, just in case.

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143 thoughts on “Newsom For Governor; Martha Coakley For Senate; Hillary For President

  1. Hillary supporters remain true to Hillary.

    Carmen Miranda remains true to the Navy (our continuing salute to Rio):

  2. Great article…Newsome’s ex became a “rightie” as a Fox analyst. I wonder if that is just for TV as there was no way she could have gotten away with when she was the wife of Mr. Newsome in San Fran.

  3. While I rarely watch CNN with the exception of Lou Dobbs, I will make an exception and watch the following tomorrow when it comes on a 2nd time in the evening…

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    Amanpour exclusive interview with Clinton, Gates

    (CNN) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates are to join CNN’s Christiane Amanpour for an exclusive roundtable discussion this week, looking at the global challenges now facing America.

    The war in Afghanistan, nuclear tension with Iran and global efforts to combat terrorism are all on the agenda in what is expected to be a compelling discussion in Washington D.C..

    “President Obama’s participation at the United Nations last week only underlines the re-dedication of the United States to multilateralism in world affairs,” said Amanpour.

    “I’m looking forward to this chance to really dig deep into their plans for dealing with these global crises.”

    This special edition of Amanpour, where Christiane will be joined by Frank Sesno, Director of George Washington’s School of Media and Public Affairs, will air on both CNN International and CNN/U.S. on Tuesday, 6 October at 15.00 ET/21.00 ET.

    edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/10/05/amanpour.gates.clinton/

  4. JanH Says:

    October 5th, 2009

    Secretary of State Clinton Remarks at the Corporate Council on Africa’s Seventh Biennial U.S.-Africa

    pr-canada.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=130460&Itemid=61

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    Long but worth a look.

  5. Reposted from last thread…

    spin from the L.A. Times

    Did White House give a dressing-down to Gen. McChrystal for publicly objecting to new strategy?

    October 5, 2009

    It started in London last week, when Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who heads U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, told an audience at the Institute of International and Strategic Studies that he does not support a new military strategy being floated privately by Vice President Joe Biden.

    The idea, under review at the White House, is to withdraw troops from Afghanistan towns and refocus them on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, where Al Qaeda forces are headquartered. The alternative strategy also envisions using more drone missile strikes and special forces ops against the terrorist network.

    During his remarks in London, McChrystal predicted that such a plan was “short-sighted,” that it would produce “Chaos-istan” and that he would not support it.

    Now, London’s Telegraph is reporting that White House advisers were “shocked and angered” by the bluntness of McChrystal’s remarks and noting that the very next day President Obama summoned the general for a 25-minute, one-on-one meeting aboard Air Force One as it sat on the runway in Copenhagen after the president’s unsuccessful bid to win the 2016 Olympics for Chicago.

    Asked if the president had told the general to tone down his remarks, National Security Adviser Gen. James Jones told CBS on Sunday: “I wasn’t there so I can’t answer that question. But it was an opportunity for them to get to know each other a little bit better. I am sure they exchanged direct views.”

    In fact, in a series of Sunday talk show appearances, Jones, a retired Marine general and former Allied commander in Europe, carried the administration’s message that the military — perhaps conditioned by the Bush administration to expect its opinions to reign — had better respect civilian command.

    “Ideally, it’s better for military advice to come up through the chain of command,” Jones told CNN. “I think that Gen. McChrystal and the others in the chain of command will present the president with not just one option, which does, in fact, tend to have a … enforcing function, but a range of options that the president can consider.”

    I think in military lingo they call that a dressing-down.

    – Johanna Neuman

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/10/white-house-furious-at-gen-mcchrystal-for-going-public.html

  6. “Bill and Hillary should keep the franchise alive, not because of their fans (no worship at Big Pink, just deep respect and trust) but because they are the ones with the common sense and ability to get the United States out of the mess Big Media, George W. Bush, and Hopium addicts have gotten us into.”

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    Amen. I also agree that Hillary should wait to move on. I don’t like the idea of how she would be trashed as a quitter or not up to the job that the media would throw at her. She is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t but I do think she can add to her accomplishments in the meantime in spite of obama. Her travelling as you said is also very important.

  7. Birdgal (Admin, what are your thoughts on Jerry Brown?)


    Brown served in various offices in California and was OK but very erratic (for instance, the race for Cranston’s senate seat which he dropped to run for president). Brown ran for president in 76 and 80 and 92.

    In 1992 his main platform plank was written by Arthur Laffer of supply-side economics fame. Clinton destroyed him on that one in a great NY primary debate. It also did not help that Brown in 92 suggested his running mate would be Jesse Jackson.

    Brown has introduced interesting ideas on how to finance a campaign without big dollar donors but not much of anything else. As Mayor of Oakland he did not do much. As attorney general of California he did not do much.

    Brown gets good publicity for not much work.

  8. Gosh, Admin. I certainly would like to vote for Hillary for President but Newsom is a nightmare. He won’t win. Even if Big Bill does endorse him. He is so way left as to be up there with 0zer0. He meddles in life style choices and would like to legislate what we eat. SF used to be a fun city, full of characters and eccentrics, but is now the PC capital of the world; the air is stifling from this control freak.

    Check out his SF “Universal” health care. Can be used only if you are a SF resident and in SF, and not all that wonderful. It covers all illegal aliens without question. And just think when you dine at a SF restaurant you get to donate 4% to the SF Health Care Plan…included on your bill. I don’ know whether this is the employer’s part or a donation for the employee’s payment or whatever. All I know is I am not going to pay for my own health care and theirs too.

  9. JanH-

    “Amen. I also agree that Hillary should wait to move on. I don’t like the idea of how she would be trashed as a quitter or not up to the job that the media would throw at her. She is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t but I do think she can add to her accomplishments in the meantime in spite of obama. Her travelling as you said is also very important.”

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    Exactly, JanH- Windows of time open up when it will be seen as appropriate for her to step out of the Cabinet position. She just has to wait for that window to open but she has to be ready with a mechanism and a plan already in place to make that move onto the next phase of her career; hopefully as President.

  10. We now think that it is probably best for Hillary to wait for after the 2010 elections to resign. Our reasoning is that thus far Hillary has shown a remarkable alacrity to travel far when Dimocrats surely want her in the United States to argue on behalf of the policies of that Chicago Clown of Corruption, Barack Obama. We are not worried, but rather relieved, that Hillary is keeping a low profile. We don’t want her associated with the Obama clowns.

    We therefore surmise that by remaining as Secretary of State until after the 2010 elections Hillary will be precluded from helping to campaign and therefore elect Dimocratic creeps. Bill Clinton will still travel the country selectively to endorse worthwhile Democrats who might assist any future endeavors.
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    Admin: I see it the same way you do. It means she will not run for governor of New York, despite what we saw from those rumor mongers at swoop pretend to know.

    Those charlatans go on to talk about Hillary’s apparent inability to bring her influence to bear on behalf of Obama in matters of foreign policy. That attempted slight works to her advantage because it allows her to distance herself from his disastrous policies. If he would let her do her job it would be different, but he is too much of a narcissist.

    He is Jack Squat.

    apparent inability of Secretary of State Clinton to bring her influence to bear.

  11. ADMIN reports that a well known gay blogger says:

    And the plan is to move the goal posts again and again and again until Obama can pass his gay rights promises to the next president, assuming we get a Democrat elected again this century.

    …he has the concept correct…in fact the O strategy is:

    And the plan is to move the goal posts again and again and again until Obama can pass his FILL IN THE BLANK to the next president, assuming we get a Democrat elected again this century.

    …O will just keep voting present as long as he can keep his bluff going…

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    ADMIN says:

    Our reasoning is that thus far Hillary has shown a remarkable alacrity to travel far when Dimocrats surely want her in the United States to argue on behalf of the policies of that Chicago Clown of Corruption, Barack Obama. We are not worried, but rather relieved, that Hillary is keeping a low profile. We don’t want her associated with the Obama clowns.
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    agree, Hillary knows what she is doing…right now, she has the best of all worlds…more and more people are going ‘on the record’ regretting not supporting her…more and more are thinking it…

    …Hillary is removed from O’s policitical mess and at any time she chooses she holds the card to ‘break away’ and state that she can no longer support a particular position/another debacle O will create…and differentiate herself from O…she knows who and where the skeletons are…and a low profile empowers her…

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    birdgal Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    Admin, what are your thoughts on Jerry Brown?
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    birdgal…Jerry Brown was the person who first attacked Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton during a debate during the 92 democratic primary debates on the whole Whitewater fiasco and suggesting that Hillary was funneling money through her law firm… ( there are clips of Brown’s attack on Bill during that debate…that is the one where Bill turns to Jerry Brown and says:

    Brown: He is funneling money to his wife’s law firm for state business, that’s number one …

    Clinton: I don’t care what you say about me, but you ought to be ashamed of yourself [pointing] for jumping on my wife. You’re not worthy to be on the same platform as my wife …

    (it was very dramatic!)

    Jerry Brown essentially set the tone and set in motion the whole Whitewater mess – that led to the travelgate mess…and, if any of us can actually believe it…the nonstop nonsense that the Clinton’s had to endure during the most promising administration of our lifetime…

    Jerry Brown is an angry, vindictive, jealous man when it comes to the Clintons…

  12. birdgal…re JB, you may find this article interesting…

    independent.com/news/2009/sep/24/blessings-bubba-and-baby/

  13. On Afghanistan, US military puts Obama on the spot

    by Dan De Luce – Sat Oct 3, 11:03 pm ET

    WASHINGTON (AFP) – By openly declaring their views on the Afghan war, US military leaders have placed President Barack Obama in a bind as he faces a fraught decision over the troubled US-led mission.

    Obama has refused to quickly approve a request from his commanders for a major troop build-up in Afghanistan, insisting first on a full vetting of the current strategy.

    But while a war council takes place behind closed doors at the White House, top military officers have made no secret of their view that without a vast ground force, the Afghan mission could end in failure.
    “They want to make sure people know what they asked for if things go wrong,” Lawrence Korb, a former assistant secretary of defense, told AFP.

    As a result, if Obama chooses to change course in Afghanistan or decline a request for large numbers of troops, he will be rejecting the advice of the US military, raising the political stakes.

    Commentators on the left say the military ought to keep its advice private without trying to influence public debate, with New York Times columnist Frank Rich accusing the generals of an attempt to “try to lock him (Obama) in” on Afghanistan.

    Korb said the top brass is keen to avoid a repeat of the run-up to the Iraq war under former president George W. Bush, when military leaders bowed to White House demands for a small invasion force — with disastrous consequences.

    Drawing on blood-soaked experience in Iraq, military commanders now fervently embrace counter-insurgency doctrine, which calls for large numbers of troops providing security and winning the trust of the local population.

    Amid rising casualties and a spreading insurgency, skeptics in Congress and the White House have floated proposals to freeze or even reduce the 65,000-strong force.

    But McChrystal and his superiors have dismissed such alternatives as half-measures.

    “You can’t hope to contain the fire by letting just half the building burn,” McChrystal told Newsweek.

    Top US military officer Admiral Mike Mullen and the head of the regional Central Command, General David Petraeus, have publicly endorsed the manpower-intensive strategy set out in a report by McChrystal.

    The commander’s stark assessment of the war, which was leaked, has set off a flurry of counter-leaks in US newspapers with unnamed officials in the White House voicing skepticism about esclating the American commitment.

    The heated debate over war strategy mostly pits hawks on the right demanding Obama promptly endorse the commander’s request for more troops against voices on the left who raise the specter of a quagmire akin to Vietnam
    .
    Senator John McCain and other Republicans invoke Iraq, arguing the US military turned the tide there only after a “surge” of additional combat troops and tactics suited to irregular warfare.

    McCain has praised Bush for approving the surge strategy in late 2006, a move that was opposed by most of the US military leadership at the time.

    Dismissing calls by Democrats to hold off on a troop buildup until training more Afghan security forces, McCain said: “We’ve seen this movie before, it didn’t work in Iraq and it won’t work in Afghanistan.”
    But the disputed election in Afghanistan, tainted by allegations of widespread fraud, has jolted the administration and renewed serious doubts about the credibility of the Kabul government.

    “Nobody expected it to go this poorly and that I think that has got people thinking,” Korb said.

    The White House meanwhile acknowledged some members of Obama’s team have been reading “Lessons in Disaster,” a book about flawed decision-making in the Vietnam war.

    In the book, author Gordon Goldstein suggests the late president John F. Kennedy, if he had lived, would have rejected the military’s demand for combat troops in Vietnam — as he had lost faith in his generals’ advice after the Bay of Pigs fiasco in Cuba.

    “Perhaps this is Obama?s JFK moment,” George Packer of the New Yorker wrote in his blog. “We?ll know in a few weeks.”

  14. Politicians always think they can fight these tough wars half way across the globe on the cheap, and each time they try experience proves them wrong. There is no leaning curve here.

  15. admin Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    and

    S Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
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    Thank you both for the information. No wonder Bill Clinton endorsed Newsom. I do like Newsom, but I think he has a tough road ahead of him, because he may be too liberal for the rest of the state. He was a great supporter for Hillary and was out on the campaign trail. I do remember that.

  16. I like her- I wonder how long she will last.
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    US FDIC Chief: “Too Big to Fail” Must End for All
    by David Lawder

    ISTANBUL – The head of the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said on Sunday that she wanted to end the “too big to fail” doctrine and shrink the shadow banking system that operates outside the reach of regulators.

    Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Chairwoman Sheila Bair speaks during her testimony at the Senate Banking Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington in this July 23, 2009 file photo. (REUTERS/Larry Downing/Files) FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair, speaking to the Institute of International Finance meeting here, said a U.S. proposal to create the authority to shut down failing systemically important financial firms may need to be extended to insurers and hedge funds.

    “We need to end ‘too big to fail’ and this needs to be an overarching policy that applies to everyone,” Bair said.

    Bair said she believed that bank holding companies with subsidiaries that are shut down by regulators also should be made to pay the price of failure by being subject to the same wind-down process.

    “I believe that the new regime should apply to all bank holding companies that are more than just shells and their affiliates regardless or not whether they are considered to be systemic risks,” she said, adding that including only systemically important firms in the shut-down regime could reinforce the ‘too big to fail’ doctrine.

    Financial firms subject to systemic risk shutdown authority should likely also be required to publish “living wills” — details on how an orderly wind-down would play out — on their websites to provide more clarity to shareholders and customers.

    And by applying the resolution authority more broadly outside of normal regulated bank holding companies, it would help shrink the shadow banking system by discouraging regulatory arbitrage under which financial firms shop for the most lenient supervisors.

    “If you tighten regulation of the banks even more without dealing with the shadow sector you could make the problem even worse,” she said.

    Bair added that reducing the shadow banking system and regulatory arbitrage is her top priority for the U.S. Congress as it works on legislation to revamp U.S. financial oversight this fall.

    She said there were some problems in extending resolution authority beyond banks to insurers and hedge funds, which she called a “sea change” in their oversight. But these could be overcome and it was appropriate to consider including them in the systemic risk resolution authority regulation.

    “If the entity is systemic, that means if the entity gets in trouble it could create problems for the rest of us,” she said.

    Bair added that the FDIC is talking with the American Securitization Forum, a financial trade group, and others regarding the agency securitizing some of the assets that it has taken over from failed banks in order to help jumpstart U.S. securitization markets

  17. The commander’s stark assessment of the war, which was leaked, has set off a flurry of counter-leaks in US newspapers with unnamed officials in the White House voicing skepticism about esclating the American commitment.
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    Obama plays games with the lives of Americans. He is supposed to be the president. He does not need to be leaking his concerns. He is afraid to face the issue. Utterly disgusting.

  18. once again….Biden short sightedness steps in…..

    He wants the fight “in Pakistan”……that is a tough one…….but if you have the additional military in Afghanistan set up, you might find it easier to fight those terrorists in Pakistan!!!!!

    I am repeating this: it is best for the military commands to be more open on this troop issue. Remember the private awful sessions between the military leaders, bush and Rumsfeld….the military wanted more but Rumsfeld say no!!!! Bush was plainly overidden in any decision by Cheney/rumsfeld.

  19. “heath reform”. That is the work jack squat is pitching now. What does that mean? does it mean

    1. uhc

    2. insurance regulation

    3. higher taxes

    4. rationing

    5. fines for those who do not get insured

    6. ceiling on malpractice awards

    7. cutting medicade

    8. rewarding your contributors

    what do those two stupid non descript words mean., i.e. health reform?

    This is gibberish.

  20. wbboei, I looked for the list of military people who was behind Hillary and Gen. James Jones was not on the list. Now that is all I have to go on. I do know that Gen James Jones had to step down from his job as ceo of Chevron in order to take the job of advisor to Obama. So he wasn’t on the radar as a military guy. I don’t know if he supported her but the list I found did NOT have his name on it. I do know that he is friends with Soros.

  21. Hilllary Clinton was a category on Jeopardy. The Hillary clues were read on video by Hillary! All the clues were answered by the contestants. Here appearance – A total surprise.

  22. admin:

    “We now think that it is probably best for Hillary to wait for after the 2010 elections to resign. Our reasoning is that thus far Hillary has shown a remarkable alacrity to travel far when Dimocrats surely want her in the United States to argue on behalf of the policies of that Chicago Clown of Corruption, Barack Obama. We are not worried, but rather relieved, that Hillary is keeping a low profile. We don’t want her associated with the Obama clowns.”

    “We therefore surmise that by remaining as Secretary of State until after the 2010 elections Hillary will be precluded from helping to campaign and therefore elect Dimocratic creeps. Bill Clinton will still travel the country selectively to endorse worthwhile Democrats who might assist any future endeavors.”

    “Hillary can travel the world displaying her quality”

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    When speaking of Obama’s failures, I don’t think anyone associates Hillary as part and parcel of the Obama Administration.

    Hillary stands in a class all by herself because of her success after success and earned respect from World Leaders in our matters of Foreign Policy. It is the contrast of her success against Obama’s failures that sets her apart from the Obama Administration.

    During the Primary campaign, when asked if “experience” was an important or necessary factor for the next president; Hillary warned them: “In these economically challenged times a “neophyte” would be unable to cope with so many obstacles to overcome”..(paraphrased) … but the media mavens disagreed. The dumb Chris Matthews and dumber Olbermans said: “He can hire and have the best people around him to advise him.” Ultimately, they were convincing enough and why the NBC news network is looking for a serious buyer.

    As we are aware, Matthews and Olberman are has beens in the news business.

    What it has done is damaged the Obama presidency beyond repair and become an all too familiar result using the same recyclable template for any policy Obama has proposed and plans on proposing to the People.

    Obama’s biggest and most grievous SIN has been his broken campaign promises. Obama has NOT kept one of them. How could he? During the Primary, he became a chameleon to all people. Making promises his audience wanted to hear- He said whatever he needed to say that would generating a vote for him. Obama did this knowingly, making promises he knew he could never keep.

    STANDING for NOTHING and as a result, losing the TRUSTof Americans, BECOMING NOTHING.

    The recent IOC Smackdown has left Obama mortally wounded. The elites who’s money catapulted him to fame and the presidency will be running in any direction AWAY from Obama.

    Obama has become hazardous waste. A radio-active Franken-President no one in any corner of the world wants anything to do with. The elites, Soros, ZBig, Rockefeller and Carter created him as their puppet dependent on daily orders from their headquarters.

    Unfortunately but not surprisingly the elites chosen presidential model Carter, chosen to lead Obama through one of the most difficult times in history has done a spectacular job of passing the mantle of “Worst President Ever” to his protégé, Barack Hussein Obama.

    Well done, Mr Carter- very clever indeed.

  23. “Obama plays games with the lives of Americans. He is supposed to be the president. He does not need to be leaking his concerns. He is afraid to face the issue. Utterly disgusting.”

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    Exactly!

  24. “When speaking of Obama’s failures, I don’t think anyone associates Hillary as part and parcel of the Obama Administration.”

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    Mrs. Smith,

    I agree. The media can’t spread the message that she has been minimilized and doesn’t have his ear on the one hand, and then do an about turn and suggest that she is directly linked to his growing failures.

  25. admin Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
    Hilllary Clinton was a category on Jeopardy. The Hillary clues were read on video by Hillary! All the clues were answered by the contestants. Here appearance – A total surprise.

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    Was that today? What a surprise. Any clips?

  26. Over at no quarter they have posted that Hillary Clinton will seek the governorship of New York. Have you all seen that??

  27. # JanH Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    “When speaking of Obama’s failures, I don’t think anyone associates Hillary as part and parcel of the Obama Administration.”

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    Mrs. Smith,

    I agree. The media can’t spread the message that she has been minimilized and doesn’t have his ear on the one hand, and then do an about turn and suggest that she is directly linked to his growing failures.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Precisely- Hillary is in a unique position. Foreign Policy is a genre unto itself. Hillary has been and continues to be well received by a consensus of world leaders which therefore places her in a league of her own.

    She was wise to take the SOS position rather than stay in the Senate becoming tarred and tainted by the Chicago mob-

    She never would have been trusted in a future run and would have been seen as one of them.

  28. It will be interesting to see what happens in 2010 and the elections. If the dims lose very many spots, then Hillary is going to be one of the only shining stars left for the party.

    obama will be blamed for his failed policies even if he does shove health care through. He will be a weakened potus if the loss is substantial.

  29. confloyd Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
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    I don’t believe it. What is their evidence? I won’t believe it, until I hear it from her.

  30. Confloyd,
    It doesn’t say HRC WILL run for NYS governor – it says there is a (supposedly) Washington insider rumor that she may be considering it.
    But admin’s perspective on HRC’s future has been most enlightening.

    BTW, admin and everyone who watched the Carmen-sailor clip – CHECK out those PLATFORM shoes! D@mn but they must be 6 inches high! The lady sure knew how to keep her balance – just like HRC. 😉

  31. Here’s the NQ article.
    The poster, Bronwyn’s Harbor, subscribes to a Washington Insider newsletter called the Scoop.
    The last paragraph includes the HRC speculation.

    Washington’s World – October 5th – October 11th, 2009

    Administration officials are modestly pleased with the outcome of the October 1st Geneva talks with Iran. They feel they assembled a robust coalition to put pressure on Tehran and that, as a direct result of this, the Iranians are being more responsive to international demands on their nuclear program than has been the case in the past. They also fee they have bought time to deepen the search for a diplomatic solution — though there remains much skepticism on that front among foreign policy experts. Based on our private conversations with senior officials, our assessment is that President Obama wants above all to avoid turning Iran into a crisis.

    [Bronwyn’s aside: OF COURSE HE DOES — Obama, above all else, tries to be the artful dodger because he is TERRIFIED of having to make TOUGH DECISIONS. Look at his procrastination in getting into serious talks with the generals on Afghanistan. There’s more below on Afghanistan.]

    As one senior official commented to us: “Obama does not want to make Iran the touchstone of his foreign policy.” If this fails, then the White House fallback position is to fashion — albeit without any explicit acknowledgment — a Cold War-style deterrence policy toward Iran. This may set the stage for some form of Israeli unilateral action in the coming months.

    A more pressing problem for Obama is Afghanistan. Here the fault lines between his civilian and military advisers as well divisions inside the Democratic party are increasingly on display. The Pentagon is urging a substantial expansion of the US presence while the others want to recast US war aims to focus almost exclusively on countering Al-Qaeda. The choice is an uncomfortable one for Obama, not made easier by growing doubts about the legitimacy of the Karzai government. No decision is expected for another few weeks.

    [Bronwyn’s aside: That’s SO Obama. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Obama hasn’t the prerequisites for true leadership, which include the ability to MAKE A DECISION, to grab the bull by the horns. The only thing Obama knows how to do is read from a teleprompter, which even his allies are growing weary of, and prevaricate. They’re seeing too much talk and no decisive actions.]

    Obama’s dilemmas on foreign policy are throwing a spotlight on the apparent inability of Secretary of State Clinton to bring her influence to bear. In private conversation she has indicated that she may be interested in running for the governorship of New York in 2010.

  32. I read the link and as usual the sources are un-named when it comes to Hillary.

    h… theswoop.net/sys/index.php

    Is it coincidence admin announced Hillary will wait until 2010 relevant in dispersing the rumor printed elsewhere- for the Pink Pack..

    The above link is interesting as the “Obama Brain Trust” is again moving in the wrong direction in Foreign Policy.

  33. What I don’t get is why would Gen. James Jones go to Brazil and see what is going on with Soros’s oil company?? Can he do side jobs like that while on the tax payers dime?? I don’t know, just asking??

  34. confloyd,

    I’m confused as well. What is Jone’s connection to Soros? It doesn’t seem like a good fit.

  35. I don’t know, my hope that whatever she decides to do it will be the right thing to do that will ultimately bring her to sit in her rightful place as POTUS. She won it fair and square, however the world of bots like to spin it, the seat was hers.

  36. I agree with Admin, about Hillary needing to stay if she can. I think something will happen to take Obama down as it did Nixon. So she would be foolish to get out now.

  37. Well, apparently the Clinton tapes are good, so I guess I will read it. Damn I have to drive so far to get a real book. The only ones here in my little town is “the audacity of hope”, which I refuse to read.

  38. JanH, when I look for a connection I google their names together and up comes articles about both. Thats how I linked Jeffrey Sachs and Soros. Now theres a team that needs watching.

    Jones and Soros, he went down to Brazil to oversee Soros’s investment in the Brazillian oil well that he has purchased way back before the election. There are friends.

  39. confloyd Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    What I don’t get is why would Gen. James Jones go to Brazil and see what is going on with Soros’s oil company?? Can he do side jobs like that while on the tax payers dime?? I don’t know, just asking??

    **********************
    I remember through an odd series of events speaking with a very big republican fundraiser during the Bush admin and he ‘leaked’ to me that he stood to make tons of money on the iraq war…

    maybe Jones is in on the deal in some convoluded way…there are so many conflicts of interest and shenighans that go in between the politicians, the lobbyists, yes, the military…the whole kit and kabuddle…everyone is profitting except us the silly little taxpayers who are underwriting all their adventures…and if they fail…se la vie…the taxpayers will be their to bail them out again…

    CNN did an piece today on how ruthless the credit card co are being to get all they can any way they can before the new rules go into effect…there was a segment about a family who just had their minimum payment raised to $900 a month and CNN was there while they spoke to who??? Chase bank…the banks will not budge even as the man said you are sending me into bankruptcy…they are raising the rates and doubling minimum payments…and in some cases adding fees…

    a word to the wise…check you statements very carefully because these banks will not allow you to opt out after they raise your rates…we really do need a debtors revolt…the banks have made us prisoners to their changing terms…and the Democratic Congress is fully aware and stands by doing nothing…

    Huff post has an article today on 300,000 foreclosures a month are still happening and their is no legal assistance to help the homeowners with the legal mess…O forgot to allow for legal assistance to homeowners who are losing their homes, despite his so called plan to help them…

    oops…i guess O was too busy giving the assistance to the banks to screw the american taxpayers that were keeping them in business…

    and finally for another example of how screwed the people of this country are…and frankly I blame the left for this…there was a follow up of the people in Conn who had to sacrifice their homes to eminent domain after the liberals on the supreme court forced them to hand over their family homes to developers in the Conn case…well, the man showed where the home he grew up in used to be…and now there are uncompleted real estate developments that are far behind in execution because the bottom has fallen out of the real estate market….so families lost their homes to eminent domain that developers benefited from and now the real estate market has crashed and the land is in limbo…

    nice, huh? where are the democrats and the O admin when you need them??? enabling the crooks, that’s where…

  40. JanH, actually I read an article that stated Jones was getting his orders from Nixon’s secretary of state Kissinger. He’s a favorite of the Bilderburgs.

  41. MONEY/GREED/REPUBLICANS, the tripletts that is who we need to beware of. BO is a full fledged rethug in hiding.

  42. Jones is Colin Powell’s replacement. He is a dual player for the Bush Team and the Obama-Soros Team-

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones

  43. THis is just a gut feeling but why would Colin Powell suddenly get behind Obama??

    If Jones is throwing water on McKrystal, you can bet George Soros doesn’t want to mess with Afganistan and neither does his buddies,Brezezinski, kissinger and Carter.

    I wish Carter would just STF up and retire to his peanut plantation and take Brezezinki with him. They are past their time. They all absoluted believe the the “the chicago boys” version of Milton Friedman’s shock therapy.

  44. Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia and France to stop using the US currency for oil trading.

    Here it comes full force with both feet:

    h… w.. independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

    By Robert Fisk

    In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.

    Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

    The plans, confirmed to The Independent by both Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong, may help to explain the sudden rise in gold prices, but it also augurs an extraordinary transition from dollar markets within nine years.

    The Americans, who are aware the meetings have taken place – although they have not discovered the details – are sure to fight this international cabal which will include hitherto loyal allies Japan and the Gulf Arabs. Against the background to these currency meetings, Sun Bigan, China’s former special envoy to the Middle East, has warned there is a risk of deepening divisions between China and the US over influence and oil in the Middle East. “Bilateral quarrels and clashes are unavoidable,” he told the Asia and Africa Review. “We cannot lower vigilance against hostility in the Middle East over energy interests and security.”

    This sounds like a dangerous prediction of a future economic war between the US and China over Middle East oil

  45. Here’s a good one about about the O from the American Thinker. Hope this hasn’t been posted yet.

    .

    Barack Obama has been the number one topic of conversation among many of my friends and associates in London. His incompetence, narcissism and danger to the interests of the United States and its allies in Europe are startling people. I was asked “How does Obama view himself as President?” We happened to be sitting in a hotel which overlooked Buckingham Palace and suddenly the answer to the question came to me.

    In the United Kingdom and many other countries with a parliamentary system there is a distinction between the head of state and the head of the government. In some countries such as Denmark, Spain and the United Kingdom the monarch either a King or Queen is considered the head of state and with that office goes all the trappings of royalty. The mundane responsibility of running the government falls to the elected Parliament and their chosen Prime Minister.

    Of the world’s major democracies only the United States merges both functions into the office of President.

    It appears that Barack Obama views himself as the head of state only. As such he cannot be bothered with the day to day responsibility of governance. He is, in his narcissistic world, above all that; thus he delegates the writing of the Stimulus, health care and other major bills to Nancy Pelosi, puts off any decisions on Iran and Afghanistan, appoints czars with power to spend and set policy and prefers to spend his time on television speaking to the huddled masses.

    His responsibilities as the head of government have been assigned to others, who in many cases are not answerable to the American people. This has created untold chaos in Congress and apprehension among the citizenry. Yet the President appears not to care, as his interests lie elsewhere.

    The Presidency of the United States to Mr. Obama is nothing more than a stage so he, pre-ordained by destiny, can act as head of state for the world. He is much too busy enjoying the trappings of royalty, despite his oft-declared disdain for that class, to be bothered about the dismal long term future of the United States if the left wing policies of his government are enacted. It appears President Obama also believes as the world head of state he can, by sheer force of his will, charm and persuasion convince the most brutal of global adversaries to live in peace.

    The rest of the world has begun to see through his unrestrained self-absorption. The rejection of the Olympics for Chicago despite his personal intervention, and the published mockery of him by Nicholas Sarkozy are just the tip of the iceberg that is the real consensus of opinion, particularly in Europe.

    However President Obama’s make-up is such that he will never accept any criticism as being valid when directed toward him, and will instead seek any excuse to explain away what is said or done as being the result of the failings of others.

    Notwithstanding the determination of the founding fathers to avoid having a monarch, we now have one, at least in his own mind.

  46. Mrs. Smith Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia and France to stop using the US currency for oil trading.

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    hmmm…all buddies of bambi. I guess you reap what you sow but couldn’t they just punish him and leave the rest of America alone?

  47. confloyd Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

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    I did read this earlier but it is indeed an excellent article.

  48. JanH-

    “hmmm…all buddies of bambi. I guess you reap what you sow but couldn’t they just punish him and leave the rest of America alone?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    There has to be a benefit to the Obama/Soros agenda for this to be happening. I think we are in agreement, they want to break the middle class totally and completely. For those who have survived thus far, winter is coming in a few weeks. If home heating oil is traded in currencies other than our own, then the difference in worth will be passed on to the consumer.

    For example: As of today, you need $1.45 USD to equal 1 Euro dollar. If you purchase 50 gallons of home hearing oil purchased for 50 Euro dollars it will cost $72.50 in USD… It’s another way of raping Americans and our economy.

  49. Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

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    Mrs. Smith that a good find. You did notice Brazil in the mix? Soros’s/Kissinger’s hands are in this big time. This is what the globalists have been wanting. Expect unemployment to rise above 30% and gas prices to soar in the coming years. It’s going to be shock therapy to get the American people to succumb to the new money and new open borders (no constitution). Its going to get very bad because we are a proud people and won’t give up easily.

    I am not sure 9 years is the time frame. If it is we can be sure Obama will be POTUS for the duration of it. That is for sure

  50. confloyd Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    S, you know that forclosure rate and the ccard company problems has to really be bothering Hillary!

    ***********************************

    confloyd…this is a NATIONAL DISGRACE…especially with the so called DEMOCRATS in charge of everything…they are devoid of any meaningful help…the american taxpayer and homeowner are on their own…if, having the democrats in charge of EVERYTHING does not offer any special, targeted help and resolution for the actual citizens of this country…while the govt, the banks and the credit card co continue to actually EXTORT from us…well then, I really believe we are on our own…we cannot remain passive…and subservient…these people are WORSE, WORSE…than loan sharks and our congress is allowing this all to be legal…because they have been bought off the interests working against us…

    …the democrats are perfect for this leader they follow…”all talk and no action”

    …the oxygen is being sucked out of the room on all the transgressions against us, by this charade of ‘health care reform’ (march the pawns over to the insurance companies to be sucked in)

    …for us to secure Hillary’s freedom within the O admin…Hill must stay out of the day to day of foreclosures, cc, our economy and even jobs…this is our country’s GREAT LOSS when someone…some hero…some heroine…is needed most…

    Who will speak for us? and DEMAND action and results for the people of this country…?

  51. My mom always told me the next world war will be fought with the yellow skinned people. She never said which one. They are suppose to rule the world one day according to my mom prophecies. So far she has been right. Oh how I wish she were alive to see this, but maybe I don’t she’s already went thru one depression. No one deserves to have to go thru more than that.

    I get tickled at people here in rural america getting ready by having huge gardens and putting stuff up the in freezer. I told them better think again and can it. There may not be electricity. BTW, I am breaking one of my own rules and buy a gun to go deer hunting with. My son in law is going to keep it for me in case I ever need it. I can’t have one at my house because of my husband’s dementia. He goes crazy sometimes.

  52. This is the second part of the article posted previously concerning the US Dollar:

    not a peep about this in US News..

    “The Americans, who are aware the meetings have taken place – although they have not discovered the details – are sure to fight this international cabal which will include hitherto loyal allies Japan and the Gulf Arabs. Against the background to these currency meetings, Sun Bigan, China’s former special envoy to the Middle East, has warned there is a risk of deepening divisions between China and the US over influence and oil in the Middle East. “Bilateral quarrels and clashes are unavoidable,” he told the Asia and Africa Review. “We cannot lower vigilance against hostility in the Middle East over energy interests and security.”

    This sounds like a dangerous prediction of a future economic war between the US and China over Middle East oil – yet again turning the region’s conflicts into a battle for great power supremacy. China uses more oil incrementally than the US because its growth is less energy efficient. The transitional currency in the move away from dollars, according to Chinese banking sources, may well be gold. An indication of the huge amounts involved can be gained from the wealth of Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar who together hold an estimated $2.1 trillion in dollar reserves.

    The decline of American economic power linked to the current global recession was implicitly acknowledged by the World Bank president Robert Zoellick. “One of the legacies of this crisis may be a recognition of changed economic power relations,” he said in Istanbul ahead of meetings this week of the IMF and World Bank. But it is China’s extraordinary new financial power – along with past anger among oil-producing and oil-consuming nations at America’s power to interfere in the international financial system – which has prompted the latest discussions involving the Gulf states.

    Brazil has shown interest in collaborating in non-dollar oil payments, along with India. Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East.

    China imports 60 per cent of its oil, much of it from the Middle East and Russia. The Chinese have oil production concessions in Iraq – blocked by the US until this year – and since 2008 have held an $8bn agreement with Iran to develop refining capacity and gas resources. China has oil deals in Sudan (where it has substituted for US interests) and has been negotiating for oil concessions with Libya, where all such contracts are joint ventures.

    Furthermore, Chinese exports to the region now account for no fewer than 10 per cent of the imports of every country in the Middle East, including a huge range of products from cars to weapon systems, food, clothes, even dolls. In a clear sign of China’s growing financial muscle, the president of the European Central Bank, Jean-Claude Trichet, yesterday pleaded with Beijing to let the yuan appreciate against a sliding dollar and, by extension, loosen China’s reliance on US monetary policy, to help rebalance the world economy and ease upward pressure on the euro.

    Ever since the Bretton Woods agreements – the accords after the Second World War which bequeathed the architecture for the modern international financial system – America’s trading partners have been left to cope with the impact of Washington’s control and, in more recent years, the hegemony of the dollar as the dominant global reserve currency.

    The Chinese believe, for example, that the Americans persuaded Britain to stay out of the euro in order to prevent an earlier move away from the dollar. But Chinese banking sources say their discussions have gone too far to be blocked now. “The Russians will eventually bring in the rouble to the basket of currencies,” a prominent Hong Kong broker told The Independent. “The Brits are stuck in the middle and will come into the euro. They have no choice because they won’t be able to use the US dollar.”

    Chinese financial sources believe President Barack Obama is too busy fixing the US economy to concentrate on the extraordinary implications of the transition from the dollar in nine years’ time. The current deadline for the currency transition is 2018.

    The US discussed the trend briefly at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh; the Chinese Central Bank governor and other officials have been worrying aloud about the dollar for years. Their problem is that much of their national wealth is tied up in dollar assets.

    “These plans will change the face of international financial transactions,” one Chinese banker said. “America and Britain must be very worried. You will know how worried by the thunder of denials this news will generate.”

    Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq.

  53. S, agreed! I pray Hillary and Bill will know the right time to sprout their wings and come out of the foggy bottom to help us. I believe they are biding their time. The Hillary I know from the 2008 election will never succumb to these people. She will use them until the time is right. All I can say is Godsped Ms. Hillary.

  54. Mrs. Smith,

    Well, there is definitely a reason he keeps making promises and rewarding the Arab nations at the expense of Israel. He is shackled by U.S. debt to China and seems to want Iran to have free reign. His slow-down in making a decision about more troops in Afghanistan is putting the present troop population in grave danger.

    All in all, he is a walk-in closet of presents to the enemy and I just hope he gets caught in a web he can’t get out of.

  55. This could be the money quote of the entire article:

    “Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq.”

  56. Mrs. Smith, that is all BS., the folks that saying they have been worrying about the dollar for years have been undermining it daily. They want this system. They always have. They stand to make sheer fortunes with the dollar breaks down just as they did in every country the IMF broke. This is always been their plan. They know the American people are not going to take this laying down, so they have to quietly do it behind everyone’s back. Obama has been put their to incite racial problems, birth certificate problems, health care problems, cap and trade and all the other things that are preoccupying the minds of the American people while the robbers make their plans.

    WHY DO YOU THINK WE LIT THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WITH THE COLORS OF CHINA,we are in this too.

  57. JanH…

    Couple my post at 10:07 with Basil’s at 7:36 here:

    “As one senior official commented to us: “Obama does not want to make Iran the touchstone of his foreign policy.” If this fails, then the White House fallback position is to fashion — albeit without any explicit acknowledgment — a Cold War-style deterrence policy toward Iran. This may set the stage for some form of Israeli unilateral action in the coming months.”

  58. Mrs. Smith,

    This is a catastrophe in the making. obama wants Israel to be the fall guy. He could care less about Jewish casualties and he is ready to make heavy use of the “deniability” clause.

    Israel will do what it has to do but it will come at the expense of a different world where they are considered the monsters and the monsters are considered the victims.

    It makes me sick.

  59. JanH Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    “This is a catastrophe in the making.”

    Exactly, and Obama is drawing Israel into a War with Iran. The entire ME will be blowing up in an unmitigateble War.

  60. confloyd Says:

    October 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    ********************************

    what really bothers me is that as mentioned…here we have the Democrats in charge of Everything and the so call ‘savior’ of the people in O as ‘the one; the president to change everything…and…

    …there is no URGENCY whatsoever to actually produce results with saving those 300,000 homes a month…those 250,000 jobs LOST per month…to stop the EXTORTION of the arbitrary change in terms of credit card co and banks to just take a few extra additional hundred bucks from us per month…

    …the democrats and the O admin response: la, de, da…oh, hum…

    their mantra: “health reform, health reform, health reform’…bla, bla, bla…the rest of those things mentioned can go to hell and us with them…raise the rates on everything…no jobs and people in the streets…but just raise every rate there is out there…the people cannot sustain this…something has to give…

  61. I’m hoping Russia will play along with us on this- I read earlier, Iran is sending nuclear material to Russia for accelerated enrichment (in my view, for nuclear weapons) their view is for energy use.

  62. Israel has no choice…she must hit Iran asap with tactical nukes and rid the world of this maniacal leader .

  63. I have faith in Bibi and he is on it already- If this news is just reaching us, he’s known about it for a few weeks and is taking appropriate action to thwart O’s plans for creating this unnecessary hardship on Israel through other more realistic means.

  64. And yet the Jews(and I am one) still hold him at a 63% favorable rating (down from 82%). No wonder why we let the Nazis destroy us….Obama’s entire adult career, culminating with the Presidency, would not have been possible but for his Jewish power broker allies…It is shameful to me as a Jew and as an American.

  65. jbstonesfan Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    The Jews in America have to rise up and hold O’s feet to the fire. Whoever is advising them is Carteresque in their thinking… and they are afraid to call him on what they are seeing are his plans.

    He promised them a strong ally in America standing behind Israel. They paid handsomely for protection from the US. The Jews in America have to stand up and demand it from him. So they need to go public and scream-

    I don’t think I mentioned it before but my late husband was Jewish (non-practicing)

  66. And here we have people the likes of Hillary, Gates, and McChrystal who are brokering honestly while all around them there are forces trying to sabotage what they are trying to do.

  67. The devaluation of the dollar is my big concern and perhaps the most damaging results of the Obama conspiracy for to take over our lives and push his restitution and retribution agenda .
    I remember well when we invaded Germany and cleared towns and cities of retreating Whermacht troops.we found boxes and bags of paper money printed by the Hitler treasury.The civilians told us that it took hundreds of these Marks to buy a losf of bread.
    Obama and his army are destroying us and he must be removed from office.We cannot waste another day month or year and let our country collapse.

    By ABM90 I have seen,experienced and been through much in my years and this has to be the worst of them all. Stay ready Hillary.

  68. Yes, Jan- and that may be the reason the rumor floated today about the Governorship came from the WH… not Hillary. She has to be livid as these plans begin to evolve.

    Another thing- ZBig has been anxious for a war with Russia. It has been his obsession for years. If Russia does help Iran go through with an enrichment program it will be the Perfect Storm for an excuse for US involvement with Russia..

    Hillary has a trip planned to Moscow, Ireland and a few other countries, I believe in the next few weeks. I can’t remember the exact date, I’d have to look it up. Rest assured, the thinking people (H&B) concerned for the best interests of our country and Israel are going to prevent this major catastrophe come hell or hi water! Enough is enough-

  69. October 6, 2009

    Barack Obama accused of snubbing Dalai Lama to placate China

    Giles Whittell in Washington

    President Obama was accused of bowing to Chinese pressure and snubbing the Dalai Lama as he prepares for a Sino-US summit in Beijing next month.

    Tibet’s spiritual leader arrived in Washington yesterday on his first visit since Mr Obama’s inauguration. For the first time since 1991 he will not be received at the White House. The Dalai Lama will eventually meet Mr Obama, but not until the US President returns from the Beijing meeting.

    American officials have insisted that the delayed encounter is part of a broad new strategy to win Chinese co-operation on a range of issues including North Korea, Iran, Taiwan — and Tibet. But the break with a nearly 20-year tradition of White House “drop-ins” by the Dalai Lama follows a declaration by Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, that human rights alone cannot be allowed to determine the US-Chinese relationship.

    A leading Republican campaigner on human rights called Mr Obama’s failure to welcome the Dalai Lama “just terrible”. Frank Wolf, a congressman, veteran advocate for Tibet and friend of the Dalai Lama, told The Times: “This is a retreat by the Obama Administration on human rights and religious freedom. “Dissidents in Lhasa will know exactly what it means. Guards will come by their cells and laugh at them. It’s a mistake and the ramifications are going to be felt for months ahead.” One Tibetan expert with ties to Chinese delegations in the US, who did not want to be named, said that the decision was unnecessary since Beijing had been resigned to a meeting going ahead.

    The State Department announced yesterday that the Dalai Lama would be meeting its Tibet co-ordinator, Maria Otero, on his arrival in Washington.

    US officials reacted angrily to suggestions that the White House had made a needless concession to Beijing, comparable to the announcement by David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, last year that Britain no longer questioned China’s territorial claims in Tibet. The move was intended to kick-start direct talks on Tibet, but they collapsed soon afterwards.

    The White House claims that delaying Mr Obama’s first meeting with the Dalai Lama as President is part of a new policy of “strategic reassurance”, designed to replace a policy of regular meetings with dissidents that did little to improve their lot.

    The Dalai Lama’s representative in the US, Lodi Gyari, publicly endorsed the new policy yesterday, saying: “The Dalai Lama has always been supportive of American engagement with China.” He added in a statement: “Our hope is that the co-operative US-Chinese relationship that President Obama’s Administration seeks will create conditions that support the resolution of the legitimate grievances of the Tibetan people.”

    Privately, the Tibetans lobbied hard for a White House meeting this week and gave ground only when it became clear that the Obama Administration was not prepared to ignore Chinese opposition to the idea, according to The Washington Post.

    Ian Kelly, a State Department spokesman, said the Administration did not want to “downplay some of the concerns that we have in the areas of human rights, religious freedom and freedom of expression”, but argued that the relationship between China and America and the timing of a meeting were “two separate issues”.

    A home from home

    The Dalai Lama has visited the White House ten times since 1991, recently with maximum publicity. In 2007 he was accompanied by President George W. Bush to the Capitol, where he was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal.
    In September 1987, the Dalai Lama proposed a five-point peace plan between Tibet and China to the congressional human rights caucus in Washington. He also met the former President Jimmy Carter.

    In 1991 he spoke to members of Congress.

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6862371.ece

  70. “Obama and his army are destroying us and he must be removed from office.We cannot waste another day month or year and let our country collapse.”

    ————-

    Amen, ABM90.

  71. You guys see this from LJ’s No Quarter?

    Supposedly from a DC Insider newsletter called swoop. Check the end.

    “Administration officials are modestly pleased with the outcome of the October 1st Geneva talks with Iran. They feel they assembled a robust coalition to put pressure on Tehran and that, as a direct result of this, the Iranians are being more responsive to international demands on their nuclear program than has been the case in the past. They also fee they have bought time to deepen the search for a diplomatic solution — though there remains much skepticism on that front among foreign policy experts. Based on our private conversations with senior officials, our assessment is that President Obama wants above all to avoid turning Iran into a crisis.

    [Bronwyn’s aside: OF COURSE HE DOES — Obama, above all else, tries to be the artful dodger because he is TERRIFIED of having to make TOUGH DECISIONS. Look at his procrastination in getting into serious talks with the generals on Afghanistan. There’s more below on Afghanistan.]

    As one senior official commented to us: “Obama does not want to make Iran the touchstone of his foreign policy.” If this fails, then the White House fallback position is to fashion — albeit without any explicit acknowledgment — a Cold War-style deterrence policy toward Iran. This may set the stage for some form of Israeli unilateral action in the coming months.

    A more pressing problem for Obama is Afghanistan. Here the fault lines between his civilian and military advisers as well divisions inside the Democratic party are increasingly on display. The Pentagon is urging a substantial expansion of the US presence while the others want to recast US war aims to focus almost exclusively on countering Al-Qaeda. The choice is an uncomfortable one for Obama, not made easier by growing doubts about the legitimacy of the Karzai government. No decision is expected for another few weeks.

    [Bronwyn’s aside: That’s SO Obama. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Obama hasn’t the prerequisites for true leadership, which include the ability to MAKE A DECISION, to grab the bull by the horns. The only thing Obama knows how to do is read from a teleprompter, which even his allies are growing weary of, and prevaricate. They’re seeing too much talk and no decisive actions.]

    Obama’s dilemmas on foreign policy are throwing a spotlight on the apparent inability of Secretary of State Clinton to bring her influence to bear. In private conversation she has indicated that she may be interested in running for the governorship of New York in 2010.

  72. Obama to speak to gay audience

    By PHILIP ELLIOTT

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama plans to address the nation’s largest gay rights group this weekend in an effort to mollify an uneasy Democratic constituency frustrated with the White House’s slow pace. Obama plans to address Saturday’s Human Rights Campaign fundraising dinner gala, the organization and the White House announced Monday afternoon.

    “It is fitting that (Obama) will speak to our community on the night that we pay tribute to his friend and mentor Sen. Edward Kennedy, who knew that as president, Barack Obama would take on the unfinished business of this nation — equal rights” for the gay community and for “every person who believes in liberty and justice for all,” said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese.

    The dinner falls on the eve of the National Equality March, expected to draw thousands of gay and lesbian activists to the National Mall. Many have been critical of Obama’s slow pace on redeeming campaign promises to end a ban on gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military and pushing tough nondiscrimination policies.

    “Eleven months after his election, he has failed to deliver on any of his commitments to gay Americans, but even worse has been his refusal to engage around these issues,” said Richard Socarides, who advised President Bill Clinton’s administration on gay and lesbian policy. “What he needs to do now is engage and deliver,” said Socarides. “Spend some of his political capital on ending the gay military ban, a hugely symbolic issue. And with no intellectually sound arguments left against it, come out squarely for gay marriage equality.”

    Obama wasn’t likely to go that far, though, despite a rocky relationship with gay grass roots activists. He has taken a slow and incremental approach to the politically charged issues. He has expanded some federal benefits to same-sex partners, but not health benefits or pension guarantees. He has allowed State Department employees to include their same-sex partners in certain embassy programs already available to opposite-sex spouses.

    But that remains far short of his campaign rhetoric. “At its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans,” Obama said a 2007 statement on gay issues. “It’s about whether this nation is going to live up to its founding promise of equality by treating all its citizens with dignity and respect.”

    Since then, he publicly has committed himself to repealing the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that allows gays and lesbians to serve in the military as long as they don’t disclose their sexual orientation or act on it. On Jan. 9, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs answered “yes” when asked whether the administration would end a policy that has seen the dismissal of more than 12,000 troops after their sexual orientation was revealed.

    But as president, Obama hasn’t taken any concrete steps urging Congress to rescind the Clinton-era policy that some former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have acknowledged is flawed. Yet the office of the current chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, signed off on a journal article that called for lifting the ban, arguing that the military is forcing thousands of military members to live dishonest lives.

    Obama also pledged during the campaign to work for repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, which limits how state, local and federal bodies can recognize partnerships and determine benefits. But lawyers in his administration defended the law in a court brief. White House aides said they were only doing their jobs to back a law that was already on the books.

    Even before Obama took office, he disappointed gay and lesbian activists who objected to the invitation to evangelist Rev. Rick Warren’s participation in the inauguration despite Warren’s support for repealing gay marriage in California.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZUjpkw6hIX3KDjuV8xK0idc_H0wD9B537700

    ————————–

    hmmm…good luck with that.

  73. The Scandal Behind the
    White House Olympics Bid

    Oct. 5 (EIRNS)—In the midst of two wars, skyrocketing unemployment, and the worst financial crisis in modern history, President Obama went into a major political flight forward, by flying off to Copenhagen on Oct. 2, to personally convince the International Olympics Committee to choose Chicago for the 2016 Summer Olympics. The gambit failed, as Chicago was the first of the four contender cities to be eliminated.

    This was a stunning humiliation for Barack Obama, as myriad press commentaries were quick to point out. He obviously thought, and was told by his advisors, that his “irresistible charm” would guarantee success for his hometown. Once again, Obama’s dangerous narcissism has taken a blow, this time internationally.

    While many have ridiculed the White House abuse of the Presidency in this affair, the real scandal has been exposed by EIR, which has uncovered a massive conflict of interest, on the part of of the White House officials involved in the lobbying effort, in particular, Obama’s closest advisors, Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod.

    Chicago’s bid to host the Olympic Games, was officially handled by a “non-profit” organization called Chicago 2016. The top players in the organization were major backers of Obama’s Presidential campaign, and were also among the people who would stand to reap the biggest financial rewards if the Olympic bid went through.

    White House aide Valerie Jarrett and longtime Obama confidante, is at the center of the conflict of interest. An intimate personal friend and mentor of both Barack and Michelle Obama, Jarrett was the vice chair of Chicago 2016. Until coming to the White House, she was also the CEO of a Chicago construction company, The Habitat Company, which was bidding on the contract to build the 3,500 unit Olympic Village. She is also an owner of Grove Parc Plaza Apartments, a run-down complex, with a 90% vacancy rate, that would have been torn down, to make way for part of the Olympic infrastructure.

    In spite of these highly personal motivations, the White House announced on May 1, 2009, that Jarrett had been given an ethics waiver, to allow her to represent the President, in pushing for the Chicago Olympics bid.

    White House political director Axelrod was another beneficiary of Chicago 2016 largess. His firm, ASK Public Strategies, did public relations work for Chicago 2016. Jarrett bluntly admitted, in a recent Bloomberg News interview, that the Chicago group at the Obama White House talked about the Olympics bid “every single morning together as we met.”

    Four other members of Chicago 2016 were also part of the Obama inauguration committee, including Penny Pritzker, whose Hyatt hotels were designated as priority Olympic sites in the Chicago 2016 plan.

    Lyndon LaRouche has called for a full investigation, and dismissal of the White House aides involved.

    Now, as President Obama’s aura of invulnerability wears thin, the White House is expected to lash out with a vengeance on the health-care reform front. While the bills in the House and the Senate, as they now stand, would never pass, because of the “death panel”/euthanasia provisions, the White House plan is to put separate bills through the two chambers, and then have the conference committee, which reconciles the two versions, introduce the changes they seek behind closed doors.

    LaRouche immediately put the U.S. population on notice: After what we just learned about the massive conflict of interest scheme, involving the White House inner circle—Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod—there will be no closed door deals. We want full, public disclosure of everything” to do with the health-care bills. The U.S. population, already furious over the crashing economy, bank bailouts, and soaring unemployment, will not take it.

    larouchepub.com/pr/2009/091005obama_scandal.html

  74. Blue Democrat Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    You guys see this from LJ’s No Quarter?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yup, basil posted it at 7:36pm earlier.

    The last 20 or so posts are piecing together what the heck is going on…

  75. JanH Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    The Scandal Behind the
    White House Olympics Bid

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Excellet- I hope they wrap them together with a big red bow and orange jumpsuits-

  76. Here is some of the stock that Soro’s has recently purchased and we
    must not forget Petrobras, its in Brazil.

    Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (RIO) is a diversified Brazilian metals and mining company. It produces, exports, and supplies different metals to companies. This company will move with the price of the overall metal futures market. Obviously Soros is making a bet on the future of metal prices worldwide. With almost 16% of his portfolio in the company he is making a pretty huge bet. His initial buy was at around 25 dollars to 32 dollars on March 31, 2006 . Soros increased his position by 1400% in December of the same year at a price of 21 dollars to 20 dollars per share. Soros is obviously bullish on the metal bull market to continue and I would not bet against Soros.

    .

  77. Here another one of Soro’s recent buys, so Mrs. Smith, you might be right about Iran.

    Halliburton (HAL) is notorious for being an evil company affiliated with the Bush administration. While the affiliation with the current presidential administration may or may not be overdone the stock has undoubtedly done very well over the last couple of years. Halliburton (HAL) being an oil services stock is directly tied to how the oil markets do. If the price of oil is high more oil companies will hire companies such as Halliburton (HAL) and vice versa. Soros originally bought shares for 27 dollars to 33 dollars in December of 2006. So far he has been right on the money as his shares are up 13%. With this not being his only commodities investment let alone oil investment this should say something about the economic predictions of George Soros.

  78. I’ve been waiting for this news all day!

    Obama eligibility case survives 1st court test

    Judge hears arguments, refuses immediate dismissal demand.

    A federal judge in California today listened to government lawyers argue that a lawsuit over President Obama’s eligibility should be immediately dismissed but refused to grant their request, saying he would make his decision and announce it later.

    The result came this morning from U.S. District Judge David Carter, who already has set a tentative trial date for the dispute Jan. 26, 2010. The judge also already had lawyers draw up a tentative schedule for hearings and deadlines in preparation for the trial.

    WND previously reported on plans for the hearing handled by attorneys Orly Taitz and Gary Kreep, each representing separate clients.

    The lawsuit was brought by several political candidates and party officials, including former U.S. ambassador Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson of the American Independent Party.

    WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
    Obama eligibility case survives 1st court test
    Judge hears arguments, refuses immediate dismissal demand
    Posted: October 05, 2009
    4:29 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A federal judge in California today listened to government lawyers argue that a lawsuit over President Obama’s eligibility should be immediately dismissed but refused to grant their request, saying he would make his decision and announce it later.

    The result came this morning from U.S. District Judge David Carter, who already has set a tentative trial date for the dispute Jan. 26, 2010. The judge also already had lawyers draw up a tentative schedule for hearings and deadlines in preparation for the trial.

    WND previously reported on plans for the hearing handled by attorneys Orly Taitz and Gary Kreep, each representing separate clients.

    The lawsuit was brought by several political candidates and party officials, including former U.S. ambassador Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson of the American Independent Party.

    They are suing Obama alleging he is not eligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement for a “natural born” citizen in the Oval Office. Forty-six of the plaintiffs are represented by Taitz, who has worked on a multitude of lawsuits over Obama’s eligibility, and two – Drake and Robinson – are represented by Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation.

    Kreep told WND after the hearing it appeared to him the judge was expecting answers and failed to get them from government attorneys during the hearing.

    “He was asking the [Department of Justice] to explain impeachment. If he really was [legitimately president], how would that work.”

    Kreep said he argued impeachment wasn’t relevant, since “you have to have a valid, elected president.” He said a court hearing with full disclosure of evidence is required, since the impeachment provision wouldn’t technically apply to someone who never was qualified to be president.

    Taitz was contacted by WND but declined to comment on today’s hearing.

    But Kreep said he argued that a simple numbers formula also doesn’t apply. Many of the government arguments have noted the candidates who are plaintiffs, such as Keyes, did not have a reasonable mathematical probability of winning the presidential election.

    That assertion is not relevant, Kreep said he argued. Had Obama’s ineligibility been publicized before the election, Hillary Clinton likely would have become the nominee, and she might have been vulnerable to other candidates, he said.

    Carter’s order that no discovery of evidence will be allowed until his decision was continued today.

    Lawyers representing Obama in the case claim “no single federal district court has the power to declare that a sitting president is not fit or qualified to occupy the office, and is, therefore, not a legitimate president.”

    The attorneys have argued the election process and Constitution allow only Congress to examine the credentials of a presidential candidate, and in any event, that opportunity is long gone.

    They have argued, “Plaintiffs simply are not the proper parties to challenge President Obama’s qualifications or fitness for office and this court is not the proper forum to decide this issue.”

    The plaintiffs, however, have argued on behalf of their “real, tangible injuries” from Obama’s placement in the White House. If he is not eligible, “they have been denied a free and fair election.”

    They have suggested the simplest resolution is to put Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other government officials under oath and question them about Obama’s birth and birth records.

    They also have indicated plans to ask, if given permission by the court, for copies of Hawaiian records regarding Obama’s birth, Washington state records regarding him and his mother, his Harvard Law School records, passport records and a long list of other documents.

    According to Sept. 25 court documents the DOJ filed in response to Kreep’s opposition to dismissal, the DOJ states, “The arguments made by these plaintiffs, in large measure, completely ignore the fact that Barack Obama is the president of the United States and seek to treat him as simply a candidate for office. Try as they might, plaintiffs cannot conceal the fact that what they are really seeking in this case is nothing less than a determination by this United States District Court that President Obama should be removed from office. The preposterous nature of this assertion is readily apparent. No single United States District Court has the power to try the question of whether a sitting president of the United States should be allowed to remain in office.”

    Kreep has requested immediate access to Obama’s records, such as his original long-form birth certificate and his Occidental College records. The plaintiffs’ suspicion is that those records would undermine the president’s statements that he is a “natural born” citizen, which could disqualify him. For example, an original birth certificate could indicate it was a “delayed” filing, which could open the door for a birth location outside the United States.

    Likewise, the Occidental College records could be significant if Obama attended on a program for foreign students or represented himself as a foreign student at the time.

    The DOJ also filed a separate response to Taitz’ opposition to dismissal Sept. 25, stating, “Much of the opposition filed by these plaintiffs is a disjointed polemic, completely devoid of citation to any case or statutory authority. Defendants will not waste the court’s time, or that of undersigned counsel by seeking to respond to the many irrelevant statements and references made therein.”

    Both Taitz and Kreep have expressed significant differences of opinion in how the case should be handled. Should the lawsuit proceed, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been heard in open court.

    WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

    Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

    Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

    Complicating the situation is Obama’s decision to spend sums probably exceeding $1 million to avoid releasing an original long-form state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.

    WND also has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and his adoption records.

    Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a “natural born citizen,” no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama’s claim to a Hawaiian birth.

  79. Basil’s always on it!

    Guess it’s safe to say something is goin’ on behind the scenes.

    First Hill’s remarks at the UN, then this blurb about the NY Gov spot – which could well be a plant.

  80. agreed, BD

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Excerpt from O’s defense team taken from the WND Report on Obama’s eligibility:

    “Much of the opposition filed by these plaintiffs is a disjointed polemic, completely devoid of citation to any case or statutory authority.”

    Ha… Obama spending millions on this useless word salad…

  81. Mrs. Smith, don’t you think by the last post that we will not see the long form BC because it will be kicked up to the Supreme Court?? If that happens I wonder if we will ever see it??

    Blue Dem, I agree, something smells fishy, lots going on behind the scenes!

  82. confloyd Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Mrs. Smith, don’t you think by the last post that we will not see the long form BC because it will be kicked up to the Supreme Court?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

    I don’t think the SCOTUS will touch this with a 10ft poll. They suffered the embarrassment, ridicule and pure hatred for what they did to Gore. I don’t think they ever want to relive that fiasco again. If the Judge rules in favor of the Plaintiffs and they file an appeal, it will be denied. (imo anyway-)

  83. Here is another.
    Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
    Sept. 28, 2009

    Unless a purgative system of bankruptcy is put into effect very soon, the entire world system of nation-states will soon disintegrate, one after the other, chain-reaction style. It could come as soon as some time in October. If it is permitted to occur, it will come as a result of the hyperinflationary collapse, like that of Weimar Germany in 1923, but not in one isolated nation, this time; the entire planet will collapse, and leading nations will simply disintegrate. This could be stopped now, if my proposal for a reorganization-in-bankruptcy converts certain leading nations from the present international monetary system, into a credit-system of the type prescribed by the U.S. Federal Constitution. Otherwise, the doom is already inevitable.

    There are two principal facts which must be considered, if the reasons for such a present threat to the entire world-system is to be understood. The first consideration is specified by my “Triple Curve.” That “Triple Curve” identifies the scientific reason why such a collapse will be fully ripe in the U.S.A. itself as early as sometime during October. To discover why such a U.S. collapse would set off an immediate chain-reaction collapse through the entire world, it is necessary to consider the effects of forty years of the single, combination of two combined factors. The first of these co-factors, is the spread of “free trade.” The second, is the crucially aggravating co-factor of a policy of what has been called “globalization.” These two co-factors have, in effect, destroyed those barriers inherent to the modern sovereign nation-state economy which have acted as “fire-breaks” against the spread of a chain-reaction effect of a crash in the combination of one or several economies, which bring down all of the economies of the world. You may justly call this threat to world-wide civilization “a Monsanto effect,” so designated for reason of the effect of the monopolistic practices which Monsanto has been permitted, contrary to all reasonable law, to conduct in the field of grain.

    The effect of the process of “globalization” has featured the following typical expressions.

    Globalization Today

    What is called “globalization” today, began during the late 1940s and 1950s, with the so-called “runaway shop.” For example: industries which had been developed in the region of a relatively superior quality of culture, were transferred from those areas into cheap-labor zones. This trend, which began in the United States with the shift of employment to cheap-labor markets characterized by poorer standards of intellectual life, results in a lowering of the standard of living throughout the national economy. In this way profit was derived not from advances in culture and productivity generally, but by cheapening labor, and transferring production to regions of lower productivity.

    The process of economic degeneration of the world economy as a whole, has proceeded into what has become known as “globalization” today. The policy of “globalization” is the tendency that nations cease to produce the products which they consume in their own nation, but transfer the production of what they used to produce and consume in their own nation, to other nations, thus undermining, and virtually destroying the existence of even food security in one’s own nation. The control of production and consumption, now lies in international financier cartels, which determine who lives and dies, at margins of price, and of wages of production, which the financier cartels control.

    The asymptotic effect on which this process converges is a copy of the Biblical Tower of Babel, in which what had been intellectually effective language-cultures degenerated into relative conditions of cultural stupidity among a mass of slaves.

    The collateral effect of this under present world conditions already established, is that any financial crash in any keystone nation of the global process spreads like a wildfire in a drought-stricken forest throughout the world economy as a whole.

    The case of China is exemplary. China was used as a dumping-ground for the production of goods which had been published in the economies of other nations, the United States most notably. China also depended on advanced technologies such as those of Germany, but which Germany was no longer permitted to produce for Germany’s own consumption. When the foreign markets for goods produced by China collapsed, China was suddenly faced with two leading effects: it had lost markets on which its economy had been conditioned to depend, and it was thereby faced with the makings of a social crisis in its own nation.

    There is another, two-fold feature of the predicament created for China by the fate of both the U.S. economy and the incompetence of the U.S. government under President George Bush. The U.S. had a debt of about $2 trillions to China, which it had no expressed intention of paying, even by the obvious measure of providing China long-term credit to finance investment in a greater margin of economic independence through capital improvements inside China itself.

    Under a sane system of relations among sovereign nation-states, each nation is encouraged to protect its internal economy by protectionist measures, especially the building up of self-sufficiency to approximately 80% of total essential consumption, and by tariff agreements with other nations which, to a very large degree, protect each nation against intolerably severe shocks radiated from problems generated by other nations. Essential economic self-sufficiency and efficient national sovereignty are the essence of a sane world order.

    Globalization and related measures have virtually destroyed that protection which sovereign states enjoyed as defenses against grave disorders erupting in other parts of the planet.

    So, a collapse of the U.S. dollar would mean an immediate chain-reaction collapse throughout every part of the planet as a whole.

    For such a contingency as that we are already facing in October, the only remedy is the shutting-down of the principal cause of the explosive, hyperinflationary monetary disorder, by putting the economy through a proceeding in bankruptcy based on the notion of a Glass-Steagall standard of bankruptcy of the national banking system. Financial derivatives and related categories of fictitious values would simply be debrided under bankruptcy rules, while the banking system operating according to Glass-Steagall rules would continue to operate, even under bankruptcy protection, if the bank were in any meaningful sense “salvageable.” This is what I had proposed with my 2007 Homeowners and Bank Protection Act. Had that legislation not been blocked by Representative Barney Frank et al., we would be coming “out of the woods of crisis” today.

    Today, more is required. Without a creation of a new credit-system, to replace all monetary systems, by means of a pilot agreement to this effect among the U.S.A., Russia, China, and India, no nation will be left standing, including those four, as the smoke settles on a world whose population is being rapidly reduced from about 6.7 billions human beings, to about two, or less: about the level which Britain’s Prince Philip has stated as his intention.

    Time is running out. Assuming that the U.S.A. would get through this month of October, is already a big stretch.

  84. Mrs. SMith, so you mean this could be the end, he will have to show it, correct?

    If he has to show it or if they call Nancy Poolosi and others to the stand, he will step down. I hope they can tie in Nancy though, that would leave Hillary and Biden at the helm. I can live with that.

  85. Austrilia just raised its interest rate and it the first to do it. It will go fast now because their in danger of losing their Messiah thru the bc issue.

  86. admin: Excellent strategy for Hillary to stay in until 2010. I ran into Newsome at Hillary’s HQ here and he told me about the Obama incident.

  87. Powell resigned and came out relatively unscathed(sans UN embarrassment)….Hillary can do same and while the typical suspects(se MNBC) will pounce on her, she will be more popular and attract many former Obama followers now disillusioned. I see he is now going to meet with Dhali and the gays ..the guy is totally unprepared and his actions inconsistent and unfocused.

  88. Admin: I forgot to tell what a great article you wrote today. I agree she should stay, you just never know what may happen but she is there to protect us. The very thought of her not being there is scary indeed.

    No talk today here on the blog about the Glenn Beck hour, it was something. There is a new name he mentioned today to google its “Deepak Bhargava”. Well I am off to research this freak from Obama’s freak show.

  89. This is what Breitbart and Glenn Beck was talking about today. This guy went to Harvard the same time Obama did and he also is an advisor for the Open Society Institute.

    h t t p: // embed r.com /playlist /breitbart -tv -playlist

  90. I would not take that swoop blog about Hillary running for governor as true. These people pretend to be insiders, but my sense is they are just guessing. Or they are trying to promote Obama and take a gratuitous shot at Hillary. Or this is disinformation. I would be more inclined to believe that Admin s take is the correct one.

  91. wbboei, I’ve been trying to call you, no answer. I will try again tonight.

    If you all try to look up the Bhgava, be careful, lots of virus’s connected to anything connected to him. I almost downloaded one here at work, it scared the crap out of me. I need this job, so my research for now on will be on my own computer at home. LOL!!

  92. I think they are trying to incite a run on the banks. Look at Drudge. Arab states seeking to get rid of the dollar. I knew as soon as he got back from his failed Olympic bid. I think the whole thing is he wanted a few of his buddies to have some money coming in while this country is raped and pillaged to get us to accept a single monetary system and to rewrite the labor laws to be more consistant with China’s.

  93. I very much appreciate this post because it reminds me that I need to begin focusing on the upcoming election season.
    Yet, I cannot resist a second gloat (the first having begun last Friday, and even now not entirely extinguished) which is as follows:

    Senate Democratic leaders had hoped to begin debating a health care reform bill by next week, but that may slip to the following week because one version of the bill is still stuck in the Finance Committee. The panel had planned to vote on a bill by Tuesday, but it is awaiting cost estimates for the legislation from the Congressional Budget Office.

    Some Democrats on the committee say their vote may depend on the final cost of the bill, which had earlier been estimated at about $850 billion by Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is already working behind the scenes with the White House on merging the Finance Committee bill, which calls for the creation of an insurance co-operative, with a more liberal bill that creates a government health insurance plan.

    Reid cancelled the week-long Columbus Day recess in order to begin debating the bill on the Senate floor, which is expected to take weeks.

    www dot washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Health-care-bill-schedule-gets-murkier-in-Senate–63586462.html

  94. So let me get the legal defense part straight. Just because he frauded his way to the Presidency, he is now no longer required to be eligible. He is above the law, and not subject to the eligibility rules laid down in the constitution. However, John McCain was.

    How the American people put up with this Bull Shxt I will never know. Obviously, when WJC screwed around, he was not above anyone or anything. They still tried to impeach him.

  95. confloyd Says:
    October 5th, 2009 at 8:34 am

    basil9, he gave a half hearted speech to the IOC and they went for Rio, Georgie’s new homeland. I am sure he stands to make millions, him and Bush.

    ======================

    That would fit Obama’s pattern. Big flashy gestures that appear to fail, so he gets credit for trying while his biggest donors get the cash.

  96. We’re lucky Obama’s defense team have a flimsy defense and this Judge has been brave enough to take this case on. This is a huge development. So many attorneys before Taitz and Kreep have tried and failed getting past square one.

    No doubt Obama’s defense team are going to scramble keeping Obama’s records sequestered during the discovery process. It looks likely if they take that track, Taitz and Kreep will subpoena Pelosi and Dean to the stand to attest they have seen Obama’s BC and he is a NBC. Will Dean and Pelosi risk a perjury charge possibly jail time to protect the “fraud”… We shall see.. It’s almost Christmas come early for people like me supporting the Natural Born Citizen amendment.

  97. More fuel adding to the confusion:

    Oil states say no talks on replacing dollar

    h… uk.biz.yahoo.com/06102009/325/oil-states-say-talks-replacing-dlr.html

    By Simon Rabinotvitch and Wayne Cole

    ISTANBUL/SYDNEY (Reuters) – Big oil producing nations denied on Tuesday a newspaper report that Gulf Arab states were in secret talks with Russia, China, Japan and France to replace the U.S. dollar with a basket of currencies in trading oil.

    The U.S. dollar eased in response to the report, which was written by The Independent’s Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk and cited unidentified sources in Gulf Arab states and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong.

    It said the proposal was for trade in crude oil to move over nine years to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen, the Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, which includes Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

    But top officials of Saudia Arabia and Russia, speaking on the sidelines of International Monetary Fund meetings in Istanbul, denied there were such talks.

    Asked by reporters about the newspaper story, Saudi Arabia’s central bank chief Muhammad al-Jasser said: “Absolutely incorrect.” He repeated the same response when asked whether Saudi Arabia was in such talks.

    Russia’s deputy finance minister Dmitry Pankin said: “We did not discuss this at all.”

    Algerian Finance Minister Karim Djoudi told Reuters: “Oil producing countries need to stabilise revenues but…I don’t see a need for oil trade to be denominated differently.

    “But we are at the IMF conference where all sorts of subjects are raised and discussed,” he added.

    SLIP

    The U.S. dollar slipped in the wake of the newspaper story. The euro edged up as high as $1.4749 in European trade from $1.4662 before the story appeared.

    The euro fell back to $1.4701 when the Saudi Arabian and Russian officials denied the story, but it subsequently resumed strengthening because of the currency market’s continued concern over the dollar’s trend.

    Russia has in the past publicly raised the idea of shifting its oil trade away from the dollar because of the weakness and volatility of the currency, which has been undermined by the U.S. trade and budget deficits.

    China, holder of the world’s biggest foreign exchange reserves, has suggested that in the long term, the dollar should lose its role as the globe’s top reserve currency.

    A main focus of the talks among global finance officials in Istanbul has been correcting big trade imbalances that can destabilise the world economy. Many economists think the dollar may have to weaken further to reduce the imbalances.

    However, analysts said that while individual countries would find it relatively easy to stop using the dollar in settling their oil trades, as Iran has already done, replacing the currency in which oil is priced would require a massive effort.

    The newspaper story did not make clear how the change would work, and many analysts doubted it would occur any time soon.

    “I don’t think we will see much concrete action coming out of such discussions because even when the dollar is weak, it doesn’t mean that commodities are undervalued,” said David Moore, commodities analyst at Commonwealth Bank of Australia.

    “In fact, when the dollar weakens, commodities prices tend to increase by a higher ratio.”

    And apart from the strong political links between Gulf nations and the United States, the lack of convertibility for many Gulf currencies and the yuan tops the list of practical hurdles to making such a shift.

    Saudi Arabia and some other Gulf states now peg their currencies to the dollar.

    “First, they will need to select a basket of currencies, and issues surrounding that are: which are the currencies to be included in the basket and what ratios to use,” said Victor Shum, energy analyst at Purvin & Gertz Consultancy in Singapore.

    “It’s already a big hurdle just to move oil from one currency to another, let alone a basket of currencies. If there was already a significant proportion of global oil trade being priced in non-U.S. dollar now, than perhaps there would be more pressure to price crude in another currency. But we’re still far from that.”

    Sources with refiners in Japan, China and South Korea all said they had not been approached by any oil suppliers about changing the terms of their settlement for crude oil purchases.

    SECRET MEETINGS

    “Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars,” said the newspaper story, adding that France had also been involved in the talks.

    The Independent said U.S. authorities were aware that the meetings had taken place but had not discovered the details and were “sure to fight this international cabal.”

  98. If this fails, then the White House fallback position is to fashion —

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    Yep, Michelle will wear a blingy dress and that’s all the media will talk about!

  99. Best SoS ever and the one that will return sanity to this troubled country.

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    SECRETARY OF STATE CLINTON:
    3:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a Bilateral Meeting with His Excellency Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Foreign Minister of Pakistan, in the Treaty Room.
    (JOINT PRESS AVAIL FOLLOWING THE BILATERAL MEETING AT APPROXIMATELY 3:30 P.M.)
    Pre-set time for cameras: 2:30 p.m. from the 23rd Street entrance.
    Final access for print journalists: 3:00 p.m. from the 23rd Street entrance.

    THERE WILL BE A DAILY PRESS BRIEFING AT 1:00 P.M WITH SPOKESMAN IAN KELLY.

  100. ABM90 Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Best SoS ever and the one that will return sanity to this troubled country.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    For sure!

    ABM90, you must get a copy of Taylor Branch’s book, ‘The Clinton Tapes’.

    If you think you liked Bill and Hillary before, after you read Bill’s diary during his presidency, as Branch describes their unique relationship, you will love them even more…

    Youtube has many short clips if you want a preview of Branch’s account of events in the book. Branch is a kind and gentle man steeped in integrity yet candid and amazed at the Clinton’s relationship.

    You will find, he calls em… the way he sees em…

  101. “Will Dean and Pelosi risk a perjury charge possibly jail time to protect the “fraud”… ”

    ————————–
    Mrs. Smith,

    LOL…I almost spilled my water all over my keyboard when I read your comment.

    Does a duck quack? Hell yeah, they have already lied over and over again for Jack Squat. This is a no-brainer for them.

  102. Algerian Finance Minister Karim Djoudi told Reuters: “Oil producing countries need to stabilise revenues but…I don’t see a need for oil trade to be denominated differently.

    “But we are at the IMF conference where all sorts of subjects are raised and discussed,” he added.

    ———————————–

    Well that was certainly an ambiguous statement. In other words, of course it came up. They just won’t admit it until it is a done deal. I bet they hate that it got leaked.

  103. Gates, Clinton jointly discuss issues

    Oct. 6, 2009

    The Taliban has the “momentum right now” in Afghanistan but it cannot be allowed to win, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said. “Because of our inability and the inability, frankly, of our allies to put enough troops in Afghanistan, the Taliban do have the momentum right now,” Gates, who appeared with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at a program in Washington, told CNN.

    In the rare joint interview with CNN, the two Cabinet members said the United States is committed to building long-standing relations with both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Gates warned a Taliban victory would lead to al-Qaida having “added space” for more recruiting and fundraising and allow the group to claim another victory over a superpower after driving out the Soviet Union. “There should be no uncertainty in terms of our determination to remain in Afghanistan and to continue to build a relationship of partnership and trust with the Pakistanis,” he said.

    Clinton called for a regional approach in Afghanistan and Pakistan to defeat the terrorists, the report said. “We’re going to come up with what we think is the best approach, but the goal remains the same,” Clinton said.

    The two officials also said the Iranians need to know they will be better off with a peaceful nuclear program than developing a nuclear weapon.

    upi.com/Top_News/2009/10/06/Gates-Clinton-jointly-discuss-issues/UPI-31781254828321/

  104. Clinton, Gates: Goals Are Same in Afghanistan, Only Details Under Review

    By Al Pessin
    Washington
    06 October 2009

    U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hilary Rodham Clinton made a rare joint public appearance Monday, telling an audience at George Washington University American goals in Afghanistan are not changing, as President Barack Obama and his top advisers examine how they want to pursue those goals. The two secretaries spoke for more than an hour at the event, which was recorded for broadcast on CNN.

    The two cabinet secretaries say the United States still wants to deter, defeat and dismantle the al-Qaida terrorist network, as President Obama said in his statement on strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan in March. But they say things have changed in Afghanistan since then and Secretary Clinton told the audience of mostly students that it makes sense to examine the strategy and tactics being used to achieve those goals.

    “What we’re going through in asking ourselves, ‘Okay, we know what the goal is, is what we’re going most likely to achieve that goal, is what a very decisive and intelligent commander-in-chief would do,” Clinton said. “So we’re going to come up with the best approach, but the goal remains the same.”

    Neither official would provide any insight into the closed-door White House deliberations on the way forward in Afghanistan, which are expected to be concluded within the next few weeks. But Secretary Gates, who has served numerous presidents in a 43-year government career, endorsed the idea of asking fundamental questions.

    “The notion of being willing to pause, reassess basic assumptions, reassess the analysis and then make those decisions, seems to me, given the importance of these decisions, which I’ve said are probably among the most important he will make in his entire presidency, seems entirely appropriate,” Gates said.

    Secretary Gates says a re-evaluation is particularly appropriate because security has deteriorated more than expected in Afghanistan. And, the Afghan election, which he describes as “flawed,” has further complicated the situation. But he echoed what the White House spokesman said Monday, that the United States is not considering withdrawing from the region, but rather how it will move ahead toward its goals. He calls U.S. determination to stay in Afghanistan and to continue building its relationship with Pakistan a “long term…strategic objective.”

    The defense secretary has given several hints of his views on the way forward in Afghanistan, including a speech earlier Monday in which he cautioned against an over-reliance on air power and high technology, which some officials believe should be used more in Afghanistan, instead of the additional troops the U.S. and NATO commander there wants. Secretary Gates notes that the current and former Afghanistan commanders have both limited offensive air strikes in order to reduce civilian casualties.

    While the top-level process is continuing, Washington is consumed with a debate about whether the president should send more troops as the commanders want or take the air power and high technology route. Secretary Gates says President Obama has pledged to give all the time necessary to allow the commanders to make their case, before he decides.

    The two secretaries also welcome the recent agreements regarding Iran’s nuclear program, but both also indicate they remain skeptical about Iran’s intentions. Secretary Clinton says the process of getting Iran to submit to inspections and to get rid of its enriched uranium is not “finished until it’s finished” and that it is not clear whether the Iranian government is sincere about wanting to resolve the dispute. Secretary Gates says he believes Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons and that the international community must keep it on “tight enough deadlines and specific enough requirements” to determine whether its government is seriously interested in taking a different course.

    upi.com/Top_News/2009/10/06/Gates-Clinton-jointly-discuss-issues/UPI-31781254828321/

  105. Another one under the bus?

    Obama’s Gitmo blame game

    By: Josh Gerstein
    October 6, 2009

    Greg Craig, the top in-house lawyer for President Barack Obama, is getting the blame for botching the strategy to shut down Guantanamo Bay prison by January — so much so that he’s expected to leave the White House in short order.

    But sources familiar with the process believe Craig is being set-up as the fall guy and say the blame for missing the deadline extends well beyond him.

    Instead, it was a widespread breakdown on the political, legislative, policy and planning fronts that contributed to what is shaping up as one of Obama’s most high-profile setbacks, these people say.

    The White House misread the congressional mood – as it found out abruptly in May, when the Senate voted 90-6 against funds for closing the base after Republicans stoked fears about bringing prisoners to the U.S. The House also went on record last week opposing bringing Gitmo detainees here.

    The White House misread the public mood – as roughly half of Americans surveyed say they disagree with Obama’s approach. A strong element of NIMBY-ism permeates those results, as Americans say they don’t want the prisoners in their backyards.

    But most of all Obama’s aides mistook that political consensus from the campaign trail for a deep commitment in Washington to do whatever it takes to close the prison. “The administration came in reading there to be wide support for closing Guantanamo at home and abroad, and I think it misread that attitude,” said Matthew Waxman, a Columbia law professor who held Defense and State Department positions on detainee policy. “In general, they were right….but there was very little willingness to accept the costs and risks of getting it done.”

    The White House declined to make Craig available for an interview, or discuss the Gitmo deliberations in detail, but several allies and even some critics scoffed at suggestions that Craig bears the main responsibility for the missteps.

    “This clearly was a decision that had the full support of the entire national security team,” said Ken Gude, who tracks Guantanamo issues for the liberal Center for American Progress think tank. “It’s typical Washington that someone has their head on the chopping block, but it’s ridiculous that it’s Craig.” “The implication that this was the brainchild of the White House counsel is not really credible,” said Elisa Massimino of Human Rights First.

    When Obama signed a series of executive orders on Guantanamo during his second full day in office, what grabbed attention was not his promise to close the prison but his pledge to do it within one year. During the presidential campaign, Obama talked almost daily about closing Guantanamo, but he rarely offered a timeline. His Republican rival, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), spoke in a far greater specificity, proposing to move the Gitmo prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth in Kansas. However, back in July 2007, Obama co-sponsored an amendment offered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) that called for Guantanamo to close within a year. Obama’s primary rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) was also a co-sponsor.

    Some Bush administration officials contend that the one-year timeline was driven by a naïveté on the part of Obama’s aides. “To a certain extent, they had drunk a lot of the far-left Kool-aid: that everybody, or most people, at Guantanamo were innocent and shouldn’t be there, and the Bush administration was not working very hard to resolve these issues, and that the issues were fairly easy to resolve once adults who were really committed to doing something about it in charge,” said one Bush official who met with Obama’s aides during the transition on Gitmo. “It became clear to me they had not really done their homework on the details.”

    But even back on Jan. 22, 2009, the same day Obama signed the orders, Craig acknowledged some of the difficulties involved – including that some of the detainees can never be tried, a problem Craig called “difficult” and “most controversial.”

    Now Obama’s decision to set a one-year deadline is being widely second-guessed. Craig supported the idea – and Craig’s allies say that a deadline was needed to persuade foreign governments that Obama was serious. They note that President George W. Bush talked on at least eight occasions about his desire to close Guantanamo – and left office with 250 prisoners there. “Simply reasserting the intention to close Guantanamo would not have been sufficient in the international community,” Gude said. “They had to have a firm date and they had to have a timeline.” Gude had advocated an 18-month timeline to “build in a cushion” but he said the only real mistakes the White House made involved failing to anticipate the resistance in Congress – particularly surrounding the Senate’s sharp rejection of Obama’s $80 million request to close Gitmo.

    “They made that request without much supporting information and opened the door for Republicans in Congress to make it a Congressional issue and they did it very successfully,” Gude said. “The White House didn’t have a plan to support Democrats who were willing to back up their proposal and it all fell apart.”

    Craig’s backers contend that, if that was the White House’s key misjudgment, other top officials share responsibility for the breakdown. “It seems very unlikely to me that Greg Craig, by himself, engineered a DOD appropriations request,” one lawyer close to Craig said.

    In retrospect, there were early signs of possible trouble ahead. Within hours of Obama signing the orders, McCain warned of a backlash and said the time frame the president set out would be “very difficult” to achieve. A McCain adviser said the Obama team should have known. “I don’t think they realized how much heat McCain took from conservatives” during the GOP primary, said the aide, who asked not to be named. “Had they been aware of that I don’t think they would have handled it this way…..It shouldn’t have surprised anybody.”

    Today, the National Security Council and Obama senior adviser Pete Rouse are effectively in charge of closing Gitmo, though Press Secretary Robert Gibbs denied Craig had been stripped of his responsibilities on the prison. “There are number of people that are working on it, Greg being one of them,” Gibbs said. A review of Guantanamo prisoners is also nearly complete, with about 80 detainees up for release and State Department envoy Dan Fried lining up places to receive them. “Our friends and allies have accepted or agreed to accept more than 30 of the remaining detainees at Guantanamo who cannot be sent home due to humane treatment concerns, and are seriously considering taking others,” said a White House official who asked not to be named.

    But it’s been slow. Obama’s administration has transferred 17 Guantanamo prisoners to other countries so far – compared to 19 by the Bush administration in the first nine months of 2008.

    Obama aides have blamed the delays on disarray in government files about the detainees, but several former officials said that is not directly linked to the thorniest questions such as where to locate detainees in the U.S. “Those issues that have been kicked down the road are by far the hardest,” Waxman said.

    politico.com/news/stories/1009/27940.html#

  106. # JanH Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am

    “Will Dean and Pelosi risk a perjury charge possibly jail time to protect the “fraud”… ”

    ————————–
    Mrs. Smith,

    LOL…I almost spilled my water all over my keyboard when I read your comment.

    Does a duck quack? Hell yeah, they have already lied over and over again for Jack Squat. This is a no-brainer for them.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ha! I hope they do. It’s always the LIE that catches people in the throws of prideful denial.
    Lemmesee- Martha Stewart went to jail for lying to investigators..
    Especially in a coverup- I should have included Reid.. the biggest rabid skunk of all in my previous list of power players.

  107. Jan–the scapegoating of Greg Craig, if it comes to pass, is music to my ears. He was a high ranking official in the Clinton administration, thus like Judas Richardson, the Clintons made him what his is. He is a Yale Law School graduate, just like the Clinton. Yet, like Judas Richardson, Craig betrayed Hillary first by switching to Obama; and second by publicly disparaging her foreign policy credentials and feeding the Obama campaign lie that all she did as First Lady was go around the world having tea with foreign officials, implying that her qualifications were far less important than spending a year growing up in a Kenyan village. Thus, he is another Judas, and let us hope that this happens soon. He is also the one who warned everyone to not talk to the press. He has enough damaging information on the Obama crew that if it does happen, he could take some of them down. For that reason, I will believe it when I see it, but someone on the inside is feeding Politico this story.

  108. Specifically, he warned them not to talk to Bob Woodward, and issued a memo to that effect which made the rounds in the White House. Perhaps now he will be the one talking to Bob Woodward, since he has no enduring loyalty to anyone but himself.

  109. wbboei,

    I remember that. I see it as just desserts but I also see it as a precurser to the complete downfall of obama’s Guantanamo idea. I don’t understand why the media isn’t listing his failure to close within a year as another no-show for him.

  110. Our City election is today. I just got a personnel call from the Republican which I voted for. The incumbent, whom I use to support, came out early and big time for O. I was bound and determined that I would never vote for him again. This guy from the Rep side has called me personnally three times. He said that his polling is looking good. I hope so. I would be so happy if an O supporter got voted out of office tonight in my area. I also gave freely of my advice on how he could connect better with the people in our neighborhood.

  111. the key word is URGENCY…urgency…

    now even the koolaid gang is addressing the most pressing ignored reality in the USA…

    friends, trust me, if this ‘problem’ does not start getting immediate attention and priorities by this president and his congress…this ‘problem’ – so far sidelined to somewhere way ‘over there’ and just taken for granted now…this will be the final stroke that will break the camel’s back and take down the O presidency:

    nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06herbert.html?_r=1&hp

    Does Obama Get It?

    By BOB HERBERT

    Published: October 5, 2009

    The big question on the domestic front right now is whether President Obama understands the gravity of the employment crisis facing the country. Does he get it? The signals coming out of the White House have not been encouraging.

    The Beltway crowd and the Einsteins of high finance who never saw this economic collapse coming are now telling us with their usual breezy arrogance that the Great Recession is probably over. Their focus, of course, is on data, abstractions like the gross domestic product, not the continued suffering of living, breathing human beings struggling with the nightmare of joblessness.

    Even Mr. Obama, in an interview with The Times, gave short shrift to the idea of an additional economic stimulus package, telling John Harwood a few weeks ago that the economy had likely turned a corner. “As you know,” the president said, “jobs tend to be a lagging indicator; they come last.”

    The view of most American families is somewhat less blasé. Faced with the relentless monthly costs of housing, transportation, food, clothing, education and so forth, they have precious little time to wait for this lagging indicator to come creeping across the finish line.

    Americans need jobs now, and if the economy on its own is incapable of putting people back to work — which appears to be the case — then the government needs to step in with aggressive job-creation efforts.

    Nearly one in four American families has suffered a job loss over the past year, according to a survey released by the Economic Policy Institute. Nearly 1 in 10 Americans is officially unemployed, and the real-world jobless rate is worse.

    We’re running on a treadmill that is carrying us backward. Something approaching 10 million new jobs would have to be created just to get back to where we were when the recession began in December 2007. There is nothing currently in the works to jump-start job creation on that scale.

    A massive long-term campaign to rebuild the nation’s infrastructure — which would put large numbers of people to work establishing the essential industrial platform for a truly 21st-century American economy — has not seriously been considered. Large-scale public-works programs that would reach deep into the inner cities and out to hard-pressed suburban and rural areas have been dismissed as the residue of an ancient, unsophisticated era.

    We seem to be waiting for some mythical rebound to come rolling in, magically equipped with robust job creation, a long-term bull market and paradise regained for consumers.

    It ain’t happening.

    While the data mavens were talking about green shoots in September, employers in the real world were letting another 263,000 of their workers go, bringing the jobless rate to 9.8 percent, the highest in more than a quarter of a century. It would have been higher still but 571,000 people dropped out of the labor market. They’re jobless but not counted as unemployed. The number of people officially unemployed — 15.1 million — is, as The Wall Street Journal noted, greater than the population of 46 of the 50 states.

    The Obama administration seems hamstrung by the unemployment crisis. No big ideas have emerged. No dramatically creative initiatives. While devoting enormous amounts of energy to health care, and trying now to decide what to do about Afghanistan, the president has not even conveyed the sense of urgency that the crisis in employment warrants.

    If that does not change, these staggering levels of joblessness have the potential to cripple not just the well-being of millions of American families, but any real prospects for sustained economic recovery and the political prospects of the president as well. An unemployed electorate is an unhappy electorate.

    The survey for the Economic Policy Institute was conducted in September by Hart Research Associates. Respondents said that they had more faith in President Obama’s ability to handle the economy than Congressional Republicans. The tally was 43 percent to 32 percent. But when asked who had been helped most by government stimulus efforts, substantial majorities said “large banks” and “Wall Street investment companies.”

    When asked how “average working people” or “you and your family” had benefited, very small percentages, in a range of 10 percent to 13 percent, said they had fared well.

    The word now, in the wake of last week’s demoralizing jobless numbers, is that the administration is looking more closely at its job creation options. Whether anything dramatic emerges remains to be seen.

    The master in this area, of course, was Franklin Roosevelt. His first Inaugural Address was famous for the phrase: “The only thing we have to fear. …” But he also said in that speech: “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.” And he said the country should treat that task “as we would treat the emergency of a war.”

    Now that’s the sense of urgency we need.

  112. NMF: what has become of Heather Wilson? I played golf one time with the chief pilot for Alaska Airlines, and he was in her graduating class at the Air Force Academy. He had a high opinion of her.

  113. latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-taylor-branch4-2009oct04,0,3967988.story’

    The Clinton Tapes’ by Taylor Branch

    review by Douglas Brinkley

    An unusual arrangement between the 42nd U.S. president and a famed historian has resulted in a splendid political chronicle.

    The Clinton Tapes

    Wrestling History

    With the President

    Taylor Branch

    Simon & Schuster: 708 pp., $35

    Vice President Al Gore had just lost the 2000 presidential election to George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton was hopping mad. During the frenetic last weeks of the dead-heat campaign, Gore, following bad advice from pollster Stan Greenberg, gave Clinton the pariah treatment. Greenberg was convinced that the name Clinton had become synonymous with sex scandals and impeachment woes. During the October home stretch, Team Gore brutally sidelined Clinton from the Main Game.

    “I think you made a mistake not to use me more in the last 10 days,” Clinton chided him after the election. An understandably bitter Gore was in no mood for a finger-wagging I-told-you-so. He turned the tables on his boss, blaming him for not properly screening donors and flat-out lying during the Lewinsky affair. Later, Clinton privately complained to his secret court historian, Taylor Branch, that poor Gore lived in “Neverland.”

    Welcome to “The Clinton Tapes,” a weird memoir in which the 42nd president emerges as a self-absorbed political genius and a dazzling player with cunning pragmatism and spot-on observations. Branch — the Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer of the Rev.Martin Luther King Jr. — secretly met with Clinton 79 times between 1992 and 2001. Together they conducted a massive oral history aimed at posterity. Amazingly enough, the Beltway grapevine never discovered the collaborative project. Worried about becoming a Clinton lackey, Branch had convinced himself that conducting these taped interviews was surely a gift to future generations. After his 1992 presidential election, Clinton, it seems, had wanted to maintain a periodic White House diary. However, he was too self-conscious about babbling into a hand-held micro-recorder as Richard Nixon did when gin-drunk. And he worried about the tapes being subpoenaed.

    So an unusual deal was struck between Clinton and Branch. The historian would periodically drive, usually at night, from his Baltimore home to the White House and be ushered through West Wing corridors to the second-floor Treaty Room. Branch would then interview the president on tape about current events. Each session lasted around 90 minutes. There was, however, a major ground rule. After each therapy-like session, Branch would hand the cassettes over to Clinton, who personally buried the booty in his White House sock drawer. Sadly, in writing “The Clinton Tapes,” Branch could only paraphrase the ex-president and use his own summary dictation. Amazingly, Branch has never even heard the very tapes used in the book’s title.

    For a lesser historian, this skewered arrangement would be quite a handicap. Who wants secondhand Clinton when the Arkansan is on national television regularly talking about himself? But “The Clinton Tapes” proves to be a remarkable read, paying out the huge dividends of history that Branch had hoped for. And as a corollary, Clinton’s long-term reputation is bound to take an upward revisionist spike because of this important publication. Love him or hate him, as Branch makes abundantly clear, Clinton was always on the job. Furthermore, with the advantage of hindsight, Clinton’s anti-deficit crusade looks downright heroic — as does his Herculean effort to bring human rights to Haiti and Africa.

    Branch also devotes quite a bit of space to Clinton’s stalwart leadership during the Balkan wars (as well he should). Unlike Clinton’s 2004 autobiography, “My Life” — which ran flat when it came to his presidency — many of Branch’s White House stories are surreal. When Boris Yeltsin visited Washington, D.C., in 1994, for example, he apparently became a menace on the loose. The Secret Service, in fact, told Clinton that the Russian president had escaped Blair House and was drunk, wandering along Pennsylvania Avenue in his underwear searching for pizza. Clearly, Yeltsin had plenty of marbles missing. When Branch asked Clinton what happened, the president simply replied, “He got his pizza.”

    The Clinton who emerges here is a kind-hearted finagler, at times even a citadel of fair-mindedness. Not that he didn’t have a devilish side: Branch manages to give Clinton’s shopworn wonkishness a kind of rakish charm. Like a jolly Machiavelli, Clinton realizes that homework and cunning aren’t always enough for history-making stars to align. After the breakdown of summit talks between Syria and Israel in Shepherdstown, W.Va., for example, Clinton matter-of-factly lamented: “The political timing did not fit the diplomatic window.”

    Highlights of “The Clinton Tapes” include in-depth analysis of Clinton’s salutary peacekeeping efforts in Northern Ireland and the Middle East, and a riveting account of the 1995 Oklahoma City terrorist attack (in “My Life,” Clinton downplayed his adroit handling of this crisis for some peculiar reason). Branch helps fill the void. Clinton’s determination to get the bad guys was wolverine fierce; he was relieved when the FBI determined that Islamic thugs weren’t responsible. “If a terrorist group was involved, the president said carefully, he fervently hoped that it was not one affiliated with a foreign government,” Branch writes. “The hand of a government would make this bomb an act of war, rather than a heinous crime, triggering obligations to retaliate.”

    When it turned out that the all-American nut job Timothy McVeigh was responsible, Clinton predicted that right-wingers would somehow blame his administration for capitalizing on the tragedy. Sure enough: The GOP turned the public debate around. Was the right wing really that coldhearted? To Clinton, this was proof positive that the conservative movement would stir up “fearful resentment” toward civilian government in coming years without an iota of shame. “Senior members of the Republican Party,” Clinton lamented, “are terrified of their own base.”

    Not all of “The Clinton Tapes” is heavy. There are warm anecdotes about Clinton helping daughter Chelsea with homework and snuggling with Hillary in a foyer. (All that is missing is the mistletoe.) For fun, he plays cards with Steven Spielberg and golfs with O.J. Simpson in San Diego (yikes). He busily does a New York Times crossword puzzle, including one on Elvis Presley. Hollywood also gets into Branch’s mix. At one black-tie affair, Clinton sat at the same table as Elizabeth Taylor and Sophia Loren. When the brazen Grande Dame Taylor asked whether he had looked at Loren’s breasts, a startled president said no. The actress nodded off his denial as a fat lie. Everybody was copping glances — Clinton succumbed and admitted that he had. “That’s better,” Taylor said, pleased to put the president’s famed disingenuousness in check.

    In a helpful “Afterword,” Branch meditates on how the Vietnam era had personally disappointed him about the efficacy of electoral politics. All those ’60s protest rallies, for what? Dead Kennedys and Richard Nixon twice? A disillusioned Branch instead decided to enter journalism, where integrity, he supposed, was easier to come by than in arena politics. Clinton, however, disagreed with Branch’s sideline approach to fixing society. “If you want to solve the world’s big problems,” Clinton told him, “you have to start with fights over who rides first in the motorcade.”

    For eight years, Clinton rode first. And even with the distraction of a prolonged impeachment trial, our country benefited from his robust leadership. One of his shrewdest accomplishments, it turns out, was allowing Taylor Branch an Arthur Schlesinger Jr.-like front-row seat at the Washington circus spectacle.

    Brinkley is a professor of history at Rice University.
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    can’t wait to read…now there is a President who puts his ego to work to get positive results for his country and the world….

  114. I am still clocked in waiting to march for Hillary.
    I check into big pink daily and just waiting in the wings.
    been very difficult to watch the bozo rruin our economy and threaten the health of our country.
    if it cant be Hillary in 2012 I will be supporting Palin if possible.
    I dont see much else on the 2012 horizon.

  115. A loud NOTE TO BOB HERBERT:

    OBAMA DOES NOT GET IT BECAUSE HE NEVER HAD IT!!!!!!

    The question is as a effing lying NY TIMES BO butt kissing journalist Bob, “DO YOU GET IT”???????

    Once again Bob Herbert – DO YOU GET IT?

  116. S Says:

    October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

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    Excellent article. obama lives in his little glass house demanding arugala every day. He makes pretty but empty speeches that have nothing to do with the crisis at hand.

  117. Many of the government arguments have noted the candidates who are plaintiffs, such as Keyes, did not have a reasonable mathematical probability of winning the presidential election.

    That assertion is not relevant, Kreep said he argued. Had Obama’s ineligibility been publicized before the election, Hillary Clinton likely would have become the nominee, and she might have been vulnerable to other candidates, he said.

    =======================

    They may be the enemy of our enemy, but they can stuff THAT argument! Exit polls showed that Hillary would have won by 12%, compared to the 7% that Obama did win by.

  118. Herbert may be a first-class idiot along with the rag he works for, but my view is even if they took forever to get to this place, maybe just maybe they will continue with it.

    LOL…use them until they dry up.

  119. Got this off of Yahoo’s homepage

    By FOSTER KLUG, Associated Press Writer Foster Klug, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 6, 6:24 am ET

    WASHINGTON – A decision by Barack Obama to postpone his first meeting as president with the Dalai Lama is overshadowing a visit to Washington this week by the exiled spiritual leader of Tibet’s Buddhists.

    The Dalai Lama arrived Monday in Washington and will be received by prominent lawmakers and the U.S. coordinator for Tibet. But the focus for many in China, Tibet and the United States is the president’s decision not to meet with the Dalai Lama until after Obama visits Chinese President Hu Jintao in Beijing in November.

    The Dalai Lama has met with the past three sitting U.S. presidents during his visits to Washington. But this week’s trip comes at a delicate time for a new U.S. administration looking to improve relations with Beijing and win Chinese support for crucial foreign policy, economic and environmental goals.

    Although China calls him a “wolf in monk’s robes” who seeks to split Tibet from the rest of China, the Dalai Lama says he merely wants genuine autonomy for Tibetans.

    Those who advocate for Tibet see the Dalai Lama’s White House visits as important messages of support for Tibetans and others struggling for human rights. A White House audience for the Nobel Peace laureate this week, however, would have cast a shadow over Obama’s talks with Hu next month.

    “You only get one chance to start this the right way,” Douglas Paal, a former senior Asia adviser for presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, said of Obama’s relationship with Hu.

    Obama must balance his efforts to develop ties with China with his desire to support the Dalai Lama. He also needs to overcome harsh criticism by those who feel his administration is not doing enough to push Beijing to better address human rights complaints.

    Obama recognizes that how he treats the Dalai Lama will be watched closely — by Beijing, by U.S. lawmakers and voters, and by other world leaders who have been castigated by China for meeting with the Dalai Lama.

    Florida Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said in a statement that the United States is “kowtowing” to Beijing by not meeting with the Tibetan monk.

    The Dalai Lama’s envoy, Lodi Gyari, played down the situation, saying there “has been no question of President Obama not, at the appropriate time, meeting His Holiness.” He said Monday in a statement that the Dalai Lama, “taking a broader and long-term perspective,” agreed to the postponement in the hope that a cooperative U.S.-China relationship will help resolve Tibetans’ grievances.

    This week, the Dalai Lama plans to meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Maria Otero, the U.S. special coordinator for Tibetan issues. He will also receive on Tuesday a human rights award in memory of the late Rep. Tom Lantos.

    The Dalai Lama’s meetings with past U.S. presidents were conducted behind the scenes in the White House. President George W. Bush, however, attended an elaborate public ceremony in 2007 and presented the Dalai Lama with Congress’ highest civilian honor.

    China says Tibet has been part of its territory for four centuries. It has aggressively governed the Himalayan region since communist troops took control there in 1951. Many Tibetans claim they were effectively independent for most of their history and say Chinese rule and economic exploitation are eroding their traditional Buddhist culture.

  120. wbboei

    Heather runs what Hexx of a campaign, and until she bowed out to run for the Senate (which she lost to another Rep), she seemed unbeatable. I think she might have won the Senate bid, up against the Dem. She almost won the party bid. In fact, I got a taped phone call from her this morning, trying to get me to vote for the Rep for Mayor. However, I voted for Chavez, who support HRC.

    I don’t think she is done with politics. Her forta was absentee ballots. She woul always be behind until those were counted. She had a terrific staff. I think she is in a private job right now, but depending on how the political wins flow, I see her challenging the Dem who replaced her as Representative, or even going for Gov up against Diane Denish. Of course Diane was a BIG HRC supporter.

    However, just like the mayor race (the Dems put up someone else up against Chavez because he supported HRC) they might go up against Diane also. The HRC supporters are fighting their own party.

    I think Heather Wilson will be back, the question is where will she run.

  121. Does Obama Get It?

    By BOB HERBERT

    Published: October 5, 2009
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    It seems to me the International Olympic Committee has already answered that question with finality. The answer was no. Obama does NOT get it.

    But it would be a mistake to assume their decision, wisdom, insight-call it what you will is confined to the Olympics. It is increasingly obvious to all but the most dimwitted bot, that their ruling to the effect that he does not get should be broadly construed.

    In other words, he does not get any part of the job when it comes to governing. Naaahhhthing. And nothing will come of nothing.

  122. Oct 5 2009, 12:26 pm
    by Marc Ambinder

    How Democrats May Be Helping Republicans Create A Corruption Narrative

    The investigation into Rep. Charlie Rangel’s alleged financial shenanigans is probably the most touchy question to pose to senior House Democrats and their aides these days. As the New York Times’s Carl Hulse implied over the weekend, if Rangel were not the chairman of the Ways of Means Committee, if he were not a beloved figure among his colleagues, if fears of internal racial politics weren’t in the mix, Rangel would be as good as stripped from his position. (Rangel says he’s innocent and chides journalists who ask him about the investigation.) Rangel is one of several congressional Democrats who could plausibly become significant albatrosses around the neck of House incumbents next year, not the least of which because of his high-status position as the nation’s chief tax writer. Events are conspiring with House Democrats to give Republicans a pretty solid anti-corruption narrative to run on. Of the 15 members of Congress who are under some sort of investigation, according to CREW, 11 are Democrats.

    Last week, for example, it was revealed that the Obama administration’s corporate compensation overseer, Ken Feinberg, had given his “blessing” to a $10.5 million bonus for the AIG CEO. Republicans already plan to run on the charge that health care reform will result in millions of middle class taxpayers paying more for health care. Even though Feinberg’s decision was within social and political norms, it’s the type of thing that the party in power gets blamed for, and will therefore make for a great Republican TV ad in the Midwest, in the Rocky Mountains and in the South. Add to this combustible mix a broad anti-government sentiment a frustration with Democratic insularity, solid GOP recruitment and relative fundraising parity.

    And who, again, will be overseeing a broader tax reform effort next year? Whose committee will oversee the tax changes resulting from health care? Rangel, who is being investigated for failing to pay taxes on income and property he did not disclose, among other things.

    Many Democratic consultants think that, at some point, if the drip-drip about Rangel continues, the pressure to oust him as chairman will precipitate the sort of late-September pre-midterm panic that has the potential to cascade into a bigger problem for Democrats. At this point, Speaker Nancy Pelosi may have to choose whether loyalty (to her friend Jack Murtha, for example) is too important a value to sacrifice.

    Believe it or not, some very senior Democrats refuse to accept that their party might have a corruption problem, or that, at the very least, the public may not believe that Democrats are inherently honorable and Republicans are essentially corrupt. Republicans hope that the 2006 and 2008 elections removed the low-hanging corruptibles from their conference in the House — although they have a significant problem in the Senate, where one senator, John Ensign, is facing an ethics investigation and is almost certain to face other legal challenges as the year goes on.

    politics.theatlantic.com/2009/10/you_think_that_is_perhaps.php

  123. NewMexicoFan Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 8:54 am

    So let me get the legal defense part straight. Just because he frauded his way to the Presidency, he is now no longer required to be eligible. He is above the law, and not subject to the eligibility rules laid down in the constitution. However, John McCain was.

    How the American people put up with this Bull Shxt I will never know. Obviously, when WJC screwed around, he was not above anyone or anything. They still tried to impeach him.

    ======================

    Hm. Well, there’s a precedent. If they can question Obama under oath about his birth certificate, then they can impeach him for perjury. 🙂

  124. NMF: you voted the right way. As admin notes, we need to get all the Hillary supporters elected and all the obama supporters defeated. The obama supporters are worse than republicans. Heather was a key staff member in Bush 1, had some problems suppressing evidence concerning her husband, was set up by a local television reporter. But I agree with you that we have not seen the last of her.

  125. admin will appreciate the “obama re-election safety net’

    The $787 billion recovery plan was intended to stretch over two years, partly in anticipation that the downturn would be prolonged. About 60 percent of the total is yet to be released, and much of that will go toward projects like road-building, other construction and research that save or create jobs.

    (btw…as you read check out the info re: the terrible financial condition of the States – and yet the O ‘health reform’ is getting ready to make the States burden even more…nothing the O admin and this Congress does makes any COMMON SENSE)

    Obama Aides Act to Fix Safety Net

    JACKIE CALMES
    Published: October 5, 2009

    WASHINGTON — With unemployment expected to rise well into next year even as the economy slowly recovers, the Obama administration and Democratic leaders in Congress are discussing extending several safety net programs as well as proposing new tax incentives for businesses to renew hiring.

    President Obama’s economic team discussed a wide range of ideas at a meeting on Monday, following his Saturday radio address in which he said it would “explore additional options to promote job creation.” But officials emphasized that a decision was still far off and that in any event the effort would not add up to a second economic stimulus package, only an extension of the first.

    “We’re thinking through all additional potential strategies for accelerating job creation,” said Mr. Obama’s senior adviser, David Axelrod.

    The latest deliberations, and Mr. Obama’s added phrase in Saturday’s radio address, occurred against a backdrop of worsening joblessness. While some economists and policy makers say the recession is easing, a report on Friday showed unemployment in September inched up to 9.8 percent, a 26-year high.

    Among the options for additional steps is some variation on Mr. Obama’s proposal during the stimulus debate to give employers a $3,000 tax credit for each new hire, which Congress rejected last winter partly out of concern that businesses would manipulate their payrolls to claim the credit. Another option would allow more businesses to deduct their net operating losses going back five years instead of the usual two; Congress limited the break to small businesses as part of the economic stimulus law.

    The search for further remedies is part of a two-track effort in the White House and Congress. Democrats are also considering plans to continue through 2010 the extra unemployment assistance and health benefits available to people who are out of work for long periods. Also likely to be retained, some officials say, is a popular $8,000 tax credit for first-time homebuyers that was included in the $787 billion stimulus law and has helped rouse a housing market that nonetheless remains shaky.

    The unemployment and health benefits are otherwise due to expire at the end of this year, and the homebuyer’s credit at the end of November. Extending the unemployment and health benefits alone through next year could cost up to $100 billion. Additional measures would raise the price at a time when the White House and Congress are confronting growing pressure to avoid adding to already high deficits.

    Yet Democrats are more anxious about stemming the loss of jobs and creating new ones.

    With economists forecasting that unemployment could hit 10 percent before job growth returns, perhaps in mid-2010, Democrats face month after month of bad news on the jobs front in a midterm election year, when a president’s party typically loses Congressional seats. Charlie Cook, a longtime nonpartisan election analyst, said last week that he was raising the odds of Democrats losing their House majority to about 50-50.

    Even a modest stimulus package that mostly maintains current programs would ignite a debate about the effectiveness of the original $787 billion plan, stoking Republicans’ arguments that the package of spending and tax cuts was a waste of taxpayers’ money. While most economists agree with Democrats that job losses would have been worse without the stimulus, Mr. Obama remains on the defensive for his initial promise that it would save or create 3.5 million jobs.

    Despite the bad jobs figures, Democrats in Congress generally agree with the White House that a second full-blown stimulus package is not needed, barring an economic relapse.

    The $787 billion recovery plan was intended to stretch over two years, partly in anticipation that the downturn would be prolonged. About 60 percent of the total is yet to be released, and much of that will go toward projects like road-building, other construction and research that save or create jobs.

    Mark Zandi, an economist who occasionally advises Congressional Democratic leaders, and before that advised Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, in his two presidential campaigns, has projected an additional 750,000 job losses through next March, which would bring total losses to almost 9 million since December 2007. Mr. Zandi predicted that the unemployment rate would peak at 10.5 percent next June.

    It is “very important,” he said, for the government to “continue to provide significant support to the economy through next year.” At the least, he said, that should include extending the homebuyer’s credit, various business tax breaks and mortgage relief programs.

    But the demands on the federal government are likely to expand beyond that in the coming year.

    Continued job losses only add to the plight of the states, which already are reeling from reduced tax revenues and increased demand for social services. Most states were able to balance their budgets this year, as they are required to do, only with billions of dollars in infusions from Washington. And the fiscal outlook for the states is now worse than a year ago, according to agencies that monitor them.

    As the White House and Congress proceed with discussions of what to do next, Congress is working to stretch unemployment compensation for people who have been out of work for up to 79 weeks, or a year and a half. The House passed a bill for 13 additional weeks of aid for jobless workers in the 27 states with unemployment rates of 8.5 percent or higher, but some senators want an extra 12 weeks of benefits available in all states.

    With the safety net programs due to expire after Dec. 31, the White House and Congress have contemplated for some time that they would probably have to renew them.

    Besides the extended unemployment and food stamp benefits, they would keep alive a subsidy for people who lose their jobs and opt for the Cobra program, which lets them buy continued health care coverage under their former employers’ insurance plans. The subsidy covers up to 65 percent of the insurance premiums for most workers.

    As Democrats have found, aiding those who have lost their jobs is simpler than preventing more layoffs and creating new jobs.

    “There may not be anything we can do,” said a Democratic Congressional leadership aide who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter. “Under any circumstances, it’s going to take a while for jobs to recover.”

    John Harwood contributed reporting.

  126. SEEMS LIKE BOB HERBERT WISHES HE DIDN’T WORK SO HARD TO ELECT OBAMA…

    He’s ragging on the current Resident (ROTUS) as much as the previous Resident.

    Too bad, Roberto, you could have had Hillary.

    nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06herbert.html?_r=1&hp

    Does Obama Get It?
    ==============

    By BOB HERBERT
    Published: October 5, 2009

    The big question on the domestic front right now is whether President Obama understands the gravity of the employment crisis facing the country. Does he get it? The signals coming out of the White House have not been encouraging.

    The Beltway crowd and the Einsteins of high finance who never saw this economic collapse coming are now telling us with their usual breezy arrogance that the Great Recession is probably over. Their focus, of course, is on data, abstractions like the gross domestic product, not the continued suffering of living, breathing human beings struggling with the nightmare of joblessness.

    Even Mr. Obama, in an interview with The Times, gave short shrift to the idea of an additional economic stimulus package, telling John Harwood a few weeks ago that the economy had likely turned a corner. “As you know,” the president said, “jobs tend to be a lagging indicator; they come last.”

    The view of most American families is somewhat less blasé. Faced with the relentless monthly costs of housing, transportation, food, clothing, education and so forth, they have precious little time to wait for this lagging indicator to come creeping across the finish line.

    Americans need jobs now, and if the economy on its own is incapable of putting people back to work — which appears to be the case — then the government needs to step in with aggressive job-creation efforts.

    Nearly one in four American families has suffered a job loss over the past year, according to a survey released by the Economic Policy Institute. Nearly 1 in 10 Americans is officially unemployed, and the real-world jobless rate is worse.

    We’re running on a treadmill that is carrying us backward. Something approaching 10 million new jobs would have to be created just to get back to where we were when the recession began in December 2007. There is nothing currently in the works to jump-start job creation on that scale.

    A massive long-term campaign to rebuild the nation’s infrastructure — which would put large numbers of people to work establishing the essential industrial platform for a truly 21st-century American economy — has not seriously been considered. Large-scale public-works programs that would reach deep into the inner cities and out to hard-pressed suburban and rural areas have been dismissed as the residue of an ancient, unsophisticated era.

    We seem to be waiting for some mythical rebound to come rolling in, magically equipped with robust job creation, a long-term bull market and paradise regained for consumers.

    It ain’t happening.

    While the data mavens were talking about green shoots in September, employers in the real world were letting another 263,000 of their workers go, bringing the jobless rate to 9.8 percent, the highest in more than a quarter of a century. It would have been higher still but 571,000 people dropped out of the labor market. They’re jobless but not counted as unemployed. The number of people officially unemployed — 15.1 million — is, as The Wall Street Journal noted, greater than the population of 46 of the 50 states.

    The Obama administration seems hamstrung by the unemployment crisis. No big ideas have emerged. No dramatically creative initiatives. While devoting enormous amounts of energy to health care, and trying now to decide what to do about Afghanistan, the president has not even conveyed the sense of urgency that the crisis in employment warrants.

    If that does not change, these staggering levels of joblessness have the potential to cripple not just the well-being of millions of American families, but any real prospects for sustained economic recovery and the political prospects of the president as well. An unemployed electorate is an unhappy electorate.

    The survey for the Economic Policy Institute was conducted in September by Hart Research Associates. Respondents said that they had more faith in President Obama’s ability to handle the economy than Congressional Republicans. The tally was 43 percent to 32 percent. But when asked who had been helped most by government stimulus efforts, substantial majorities said “large banks” and “Wall Street investment companies.”

    When asked how “average working people” or “you and your family” had benefited, very small percentages, in a range of 10 percent to 13 percent, said they had fared well.

    The word now, in the wake of last week’s demoralizing jobless numbers, is that the administration is looking more closely at its job creation options. Whether anything dramatic emerges remains to be seen.

    The master in this area, of course, was Franklin Roosevelt. His first Inaugural Address was famous for the phrase: “The only thing we have to fear. …” But he also said in that speech: “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.” And he said the country should treat that task “as we would treat the emergency of a war.”

    Now that’s the sense of urgency we need.

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