The Obama Race-Baiting History – And Other Truths Emerge, Part II

The chickens are coming home to roost as reality strikes at the Obama mythical crackpot history. All that ‘I was six years old abroad so I am an expert in international relations and foreign policy is my strong suit so don’t argue with me and call my “no preconditions” stance with regards to Iran “naive” (I’ll meet with Ahmadinejad any time, any place, any where he wants in the first year)’ has now collapsed.

Instead of “no preconditions” meetings with crackpots and Tin Pot Dictators, after “open hands” “clenched fists” words, after insulting American allies like Britain and Israel, Obama has to face the fact that he is in a one man fools paradise. After appeasing Iranian leaders and jutting his jaw at protesters challenging the Tin Pot Dictator and the entire Iranian regime, Obama says “Oops”. It turns out, as the knowledgeable were aware: Iran has “a secret underground plant to manufacture nuclear fuel”.

You just can’t trust a Tin Pot Dictator – like Ahmadinejad.

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When, a few weeks ago, we described Obama as The Tin Pot Dictator little did we know that shortly a YouTube video would emerge to confirm our description.

YouTube videos and events aplenty already existed on which we based our article but the latest YouTube now threatens a firestorm.

No firestorm, or much discussion on Big Media (some Hillary sympathetic websites did discuss the revelations), from our Tucker Carlson The Obama Race-Baiting History – And Other Truths Emerge, Part I

There was some discussion of the Tucker Carlson public admission that Obama’s campaign did indeed proposition reporters with scurrilous assertions, lies and false narratives to portray the Clintons as “racists”. D.K. Jamaal wrote:

Carlson admission finally confirms that Obama’s campaign was as divisive, vituperative, heartless, scheming, unethical, malevolent, destructive, and manipulative as many Americans have long believed.

The evidence has long been there – Jesse Jackson’s Kanye-like implication that Hillary did not care about Katrina victims, the campaign’s infamous South Carolina race memo, rumors of how the Obama camp threatened black superdelegates, and the odious “Hillary wants Obama assassinated” story they tried to sell.

But Carlson becomes the first corporate media journalist to actually say, yes, the Obama campaign tried to use me to sell the Hillary-is-racist crap.

D.K. Jamaal bears witness that there was much evidence to the Obama race-baiting history. D.K. Jamaal then asks the vital question:

Carlson is brave for finally telling it like it is, beyond any doubt, that the corporate media has long known Obama to be a race-baiter from day one.

Will any other reporter be honest enough to second what Tucker Carlson revealed?

It will take a while but the truth shall rise. Eventually reporters will report events from the primary and the secret history we have outlined will be filled with stark colors. Eventually even Obama campaign thugs and operatives will turn on each other or demand credit and the secret history of the Obama race-baiting will emerge full-born.

For now, we have to rely on the facts few want to discuss, and sharp analytical minds to put into context events as they unfold. For instance, in Obama The Tin Pot Dictator we wrote:

Time was when Americans could laugh at leaders from other nations who tried to create a cheesy cult of personality. Now we have our own cheesy tin pot rattling “leader”.

That Tin pot dictator mentality is what has raised alarms about Obama’s speech next week aimed at schoolchildren. President John F. Kennedy was a popular president who started a presidential effort aimed at schoolchildren. But the Kennedy efforts were aimed at physical fitness and physical fitness programs not at creation of a cult of personality akin to North Korean “Dear Leader” rallies.

There were no “let’s get physically fit for the glory of the Dear Leader” components from John F. Kennedy. Attempts to link physical fitness or sound educational goals to the greater glory of “Dear Leader” abound in world history. Hitler youth programs, Leninist state glorification camps, Maoist “Red Book” wavers, dozens of African leadership cults, Red Kerchief programs from the socialist world, all are examples of the glorification of the state and the “Leader” via school children programs.

Americans are waking up to their own “cheesy cult of personality” for Dear Leader. The evidence was always there but few wanted to open their eyes and see. Few wanted to see the Obama cult of personality we have written about for so long. There was evidence during the campaign:



Perhaps because it was a political campaign some dismissed it as wise politics. To us it reeked of Nike sneakers and comet tails and Marshall Appelwhite. It reeked of Susan Atkins. It reeked of dangerous leader cult in national government.



To us it is time to look at that old man who bristles at the cult and time to put aside Godwin’s law lest we forget.

At B. Bernice Young Elementary School in Burlington, New Jersey the indoctrination has begun.



The song is a dark reference to “Jesus Loves The Little Children”. The video was posted by Charisse Carney-Nunes the author of “I Am Barack Obama”. Some liberals who should know better, who would scream if George W. Bush was the object of adoration (we would certainly object too) prefer to say “nothing new”, “this is fine”. No, this is not fine. This is indoctrination and it is ugly.

There’s a reason why Americans posthumously honor presidents by naming ships or buildings in their honor. Americans do not engage in monument building for living leaders. We are not a nation of Tin Pot Dictator worshipers.

Or at least we used to not be a nation of Tin Pot Dictator worshipers.

In February of 2008 we quoted from the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel:

The rise of democratic frontrunner Barack Obama signifies an alarming victory of style over substance. Not unlike the dot-com hype, his campaign promises more than he can deliver. The one thing his voters can count on is that they will ultimately be disappointed.

Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama reminds many people of former President John F. Kennedy or civil rights leader Martin Luther King. But when I hear him speak, I have to think of the crazy days of the New Economy.

It was a magical time, even for the most levelheaded of business executives. For several years, wild promises seemed to be the most valuable currency in circulation. Profits? No big deal! Experience? Unnecessary! Realism? More of an obstacle than anything else. While some entrepreneurs undoubtedly had realistic business models and administrative talent, most of them were simply peddling ideas.

Der Spiegel wrote along with us, in February 2008, the truth about Obama and an Obama presidency:

Nevertheless, if Obama is elected he will eventually be forced to disappoint his voters. Politics in a democratic society is a balancing of interests, not a revivalist meeting. It takes finesse, experience and power to transform ideas into reality. Hope and optimism can enhance these qualities, but they cannot replace them. Obama’s message is more of a promise to heal the nation than a campaign platform.

The future Obama is promising seems foggy and indistinct. He wants to change the rules of engagement in politics, but he neglects to explain how and in what direction. He wants to write a new page in the history books, but what handwriting does he plan to use to make his entry? He wants to drive out lobbyists, but if he does, who will champion the interests of union members, war veterans and chemical corporations? He wants to negotiate with the world’s dictators, but to what end, exactly?

In fact, Obama’s most dangerous land mines are hidden in foreign policy. [snip]

And Osama bin Laden and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would be the real winners of the 2008 American presidential election.

On top of all that, Obama, in an effort to show strength, has come up with a new, and in some ways exclusive, theater for the US armed forces. He talks about military operations in the nuclear power Pakistan, operations that he, as commander-in-chief, would order even without the approval of the United Nations. That is “the war we need to win,” he says again and again.

But in reality a military campaign in Pakistan would be lunacy, even if many in the American media have chosen to studiously ignore Obama’s comments. A comparison with President John F. Kennedy, who was 43 when he was elected, reveals that Kennedy was in fact unenthusiastic about going to war in Vietnam. It was a war the inexperienced President slid into, and if he was a war president, it was by accident and not design.

Der Spiegel, a German magazine, has special insight into the politics of despair:

But there is no room for thoughtfulness in the turbulent world of Obamania. Hillary Clinton, his rival in the fight for the Democratic nomination, suffers from the same problems as traditional companies in the automotive and engineering industries did when confronted with the hype of the New Economy. She is out of touch with his supporters. She uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she’s a secure investment, he is speculation.

When the New Economy reached its conclusion, people suddenly realized that their hopes were dashed and their cravings for quick riches left unfulfilled. In 2002, Worldcom’s stock price fell to less than 10 cents.

If democracy functions only half as well as the market economy, the Obama bubble will burst. The burning question is: When? Will it happen before the Democratic nomination this August — or not until afterwards?

The Obama bubble is bursting much too late. But the truth about Obama continues to emerge. The Obama Race-baiting history and other truths continue to emerge.

Those truths are getting more and more dangerous, not less.

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198 thoughts on “The Obama Race-Baiting History – And Other Truths Emerge, Part II

  1. Watch Hillary Clinton at 1:00 p.m. (ET) live here:

    http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/ourmeetings/meeting_2009_annual_webcast.asp?Section=OurMeetings&PageTitle=Webcast

    Friday, September 25, 1:00 PM – 2:00 PM ★ Metropolitan Ballroom, 2nd Floor

    The closing plenary will highlight progress achieved over the past five years, showcase the accomplishments of the 2009 Annual Meeting, and inspire attendees to continue their work via Commitments to Action in the year ahead with a keynote address from Hillary R. Clinton, United States Secretary of State, and closing remarks from President Clinton.

  2. Amen, Admin.

    I am sick of the double standard. No preconditions on a terrorist regime but precondition after precondition on Israel, a democratic ally.

    The man makes me sick. I hope impeachment happens soon.

  3. Admin, great article, I especially liked your analogy ” If Hillary Clinton is a secured stock, he is a speculation”. Gotta love that!

  4. My fear is that a majority of our population today is so gullible that they cannot tell the difference between reality and fiction. Their future is being stolen right out from under them, and they do not protest. On the contrary, they applaud.

  5. That D.K. Jamal article is impressive.

    BTW, besides the propagandist message anyone else nauseated by the song’s stupid refrain;

    Mmmmm Mmmmmmm Mmmmmmm

    UGH!!!!!!!!

  6. I wonder what happened that forced BO’s to admit Iran is building a second nuclear reactor?

    Also, remember last year it was practically a crime to mention BO’s middle name? Now it’s being celebrated in kid’s songs.

  7. Evidently that kids video was taped last February but that hasn’t stopped Burlington parents from protesting.

    ‘As critics of the video claimed it amounted to “indoctrination,” the tension at B. Bernice Young Elementary School escalated to such a degree Thursday that the school was placed temporarily on lockdown after its principal received death threats over a YouTube video that showed nearly 20 children being taught songs lauding the president, though back-to-school night events continuing as planned Thursday night at the school.’

  8. I talked to my old boss last night. He was in his cups, which is not an altogether bad thing, because in wine there is truth. He is a staunch right wing republican, he was pretty upset with me for changing parties, and yet last night he told me point blank that he would have voted for Hillary over any republican. I told him we need a centrist party, we will not get one until 2016, and just wait and see what happens. I told him the democratic party has fully embraced Obama, and in doing so, it has contracted the political equivalent of the AIDs virus, and the Republican party has no coherent message. Under the circumstances, keep your powder dry. If the Hillary of the primary ever emerges again, and can operate unfettered then I will support her just as I did before, and so should you. Yup, that is what I told him.

  9. If that sounds tentative I am sorry. But I am too far along in the game of life to give anyone a blank check. But if the Hillary I loved, the intelligent populist as Ed Rendell described her in the primary comes back to us, then I will break that rule and give her 110% support.

  10. Hillary was right. That kodak moment during the primary debates when obama said he would talk to anyone without preconditions? I hope he chokes on it now.

    ————————-

    Clinton calls for IAEA probe of Iran nuclear site

    Fri Sep 25, 2009

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The International Atomic Energy Agency must investigate Iran’s newly disclosed uranium enrichment plant and Tehran must take immediate steps to show its program is peaceful, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday.

    “This is now a clear challenge to the international community,” Clinton told reporters in New York after Iran told the IAEA it had a second uranium enrichment plant under construction. The disclosure by Iran came just as six world powers and Iran prepare for rare talks on October 1.

    “This facility sharpens our sense of urgency and underscores Iran’s absolute need to engage seriously with us on October 1 and take immediate steps to demonstrate the exclusively peaceful nature of their nuclear program,” she said after a meeting with Belgium’s foreign minister.

    reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58O3LY20090925

  11. US rethinks plans to give Libya $2.5 million in aid

    Fri Sep 25, 2009

    * Two influential lawmakers ask Clinton to scrap aid

    * Lawmakers say Gaddafi shows no remorse for Lockerbie

    * Gaddafi accused of “flagrant disrespect” for victims

    * Gaddafi says understands anger, desires technology

    By Arshad Mohammed

    NEW YORK, Sept 24 (Reuters) – The U.S. State Department said it is rethinking a decision to give $2.5 million in aid to Libya, including to foundations run by the Libyan leader’s sons, after lawmakers on Thursday asked it to cancel the plan.

    In a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, two U.S. lawmakers said they were unwilling to give the aid because of the warm reception Tripoli recently gave a Libyan official convicted of involvement in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. They also accused Libyan leader Col. Muammar Gaddafi of showing “flagrant disrespect” for the 270 victims of the bombing during his visit to New York this week to attend the U.N. General Assembly.

    “The celebration that President (Gaddafi) recently held in honor of … the only man convicted in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, showed just how little remorse (he) has for the terrorist attacks that killed 270 civilians,” Rep. Nita Lowey and Rep. Kay Granger wrote in a letter obtained by Reuters. Lowey, a New York Democrat, chairs the influential House of Representatives appropriations subcommittee that oversees funding for the State Department and U.S. foreign assistance. Granger, of Texas, is the subcommittee’s top Republican.

    While the State Department could reject their request, as a practical matter it is unlikely to do so because of the power that the appropriations committee has over its budget.

    State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the department was rethinking the funding, which two sources said had included $200,000 each for two foundations run by Gaddafi’s sons.
    One source said one foundation promoted civil society and the other women’s empowerment.

    “The decision to appropriate the money was made some time ago but, in light of recent events, we will be taking another look at these decisions,” Crowley said. The “recent events” was a reference to the celebratory reception Abdel Basset al-Megrahi received on his return to Libya last month after being freed by Scottish authorities on compassionate grounds because of his terminal cancer.

    ‘IT IS ALL OVER’?

    Gaddafi’s U.S. visit has upset some family members of the Lockerbie victims who resented his unsuccessful efforts to get permission to pitch a Bedouin tent he likes to stay in in Central Park and in two other sites near New York City.

    On Wednesday, Gaddafi delivered a rambling 94-minute speech to the U.N. General Assembly that touched on everything from the assassination of John F. Kennedy to swine flu and denounced the powers of the U.N. Security Council, which he said should be called the “Terror Council.”

    Despite Gaddafi’s unpredictability, the United States in late 2003 began a process of rapprochement with Libya after decades of estrangement because of Tripoli’s decision to abandon the pursuit of weapons of mass destruction.

    In an interview with the Wall Street Journal newspaper, Gaddafi appeared to strike a conciliatory tone, saying he could “comprehend” the anger directed at him by Americans who lost relatives in the Lockerbie bombing. Gaddafi also said he hoped to build a new era of relations with U.S. President Barack Obama and wanted to put his nation’s long conflict with the United States in the past. “As a case, the Lockerbie question: I would say it’s come to an end, legally, politically, financially, it is all over,” the newspaper quoted Gaddafi as saying. “I would say, thank Allah, that this problem has been solved to the satisfaction of all parties. We all feel the pain for such a tragedy.” He also made clear his desire for his country to benefit from Western technology.

    “Libya does need the technology of the advanced world,” Gaddafi said. “And if Libya wishes to develop itself, it must cooperate with the developed world.”

    reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN24480443

  12. D.K. Jamaal is an honorable journalist. He finds the facts and connects the dots and delivers the truth. What a breath of fresh air. It was a goddam big media obama plot to smear the Clintons. And it worked to a fare thee well. However, the people who supported this plot and benefitted from it must realize that next target may be them.

    We must not indulge the fiction that big media will come around. They are too invested in the plot. They still believe he will loot the taxpayers to bail them out. And sure as god made little green apples he will–unless he is vigorously opposed.

  13. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the department was rethinking the funding, which two sources said had included $200,000 each for two foundations run by Gaddafi’s sons.
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    This is not fair. Honorable number 1 son Hannibal Gaddafi known and loved for his penchant for assaulting servants in public places, had those taxpayer dollars committed to charitable causes like buying a new ferrari.

    No one bothers to ask why those monies were appropriated to him in the first place. But I guess the way they are printing money these days, it hardly matters.

  14. I wonder what happened that forced BO’s to admit Iran is building a second nuclear reactor?

    Also, remember last year it was practically a crime to mention BO’s middle name? Now it’s being celebrated in kid’s songs.
    ————————————————
    This say it is coming from new intelligence techniques. In fact, there is nothing new about it. It is coming from moderates inside the administration. It was going to go public, so Bambi has tried to get out front of it. It can be confirmed now through surveillance and special equipment.

  15. Kids singing the original religious lyric, “Jesus loves the little children of the world”, would have the ACLU attempting to shut down the entire school and jailing the teacher. It’s just outrageous that these teachers/schools believe they have the authority to indoctrinate these kids…it doesn’t matter that the kids have been convinced that he’s the hip, popular God. Disgraceful and disgusting.

  16. Unfortunately for OO, the Clintons looks like the Global Leaders. I loved the story about the outhouse, and the snakes. Leave it to WJK to show how much he can relate to problems many countries are still experiencing. Great leaders don’t display themselves as superior, they show them selves as one of everyone.

  17. Wow :The Dynamic Duo.Bill and Hillary Clinton.Kneel down on your prayer rug barack hussein obama and thank Allah for your very short tenure as the president of this great nation.You are burnt toast and need to be impeached.

    By ABM91 Glenn Beck,keep up the good work.

  18. repost from last thread:

    I watched and listened last night to CGI… highly recommend seeing all the good things happening because of the CGI…

    # Mrs. Smith Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Hillary will speak at the CGI closing event along with Bill.Check it out.

    ——————————————-CLOSING PLENARY SESSION
    Friday, September 25, 1:00 PM – 2:00 PM ★ Metropolitan Ballroom, 2nd Floor
    The closing plenary will highlight progress achieved over the past five years, showcase the accomplishments of the 2009 Annual Meeting, and inspire attendees to continue their work via Commitments to Action in the year ahead with a keynote address from Hillary R. Clinton, United States Secretary of State, and closing remarks from President Clinton

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Bill Clinton has accomplished so much as a non-profit enterprise using his contacts and his leadership role, ( just as a speaker said about BP), ‘doing the right thing while no one is looking’… all for helping people climb out their dire circumstances providing a better standard of living and a brighter future. If his vision of making America and the World a better place was undertaken by our government, we would be out of our financial doldrums within a year and there would be millions of jobs created for rebuilding our collapsed employment system .

    I watched the latest podcast episode last night. (link below) The guests were very interesting and informative. A UAE representative, a middle eastern woman’s account of how their schools are participating in Environmental Educational programs there and noting the trickle down effect to their families, as part of not only the school’s curriculum but incorporated in almost every subject taught in the schools. This reminded me of one of my friends, a teacher at the Waldorf School. Their approach to teaching is similar, where every class is related to the 3 R’s, where making brownies becomes a lesson in math, following directions, executing the task successfully and reaping the rewards of completing the task correctly..

    Surprisingly enough, the UAE are committed to making their place on the earth the model for environmental efficiency. (planning now for the future when oil is no longer king)

    Deidre, ( a wonderful representative) of ‘Making it Right’ recipient of a new environmentally friendly, all green, energy efficient home in the 9th Ward appeared as a living testament to the affordable housing Brad Pitt has worked so hard to provide to the devastated victims of Katrina. (Deidre brought the house down when she wanted to clue the audience in to her “dual flush commode.”)

    BP has done a spectacular job in the progress he’s made ( persevering) gathering the right people together for finding ways of making energy efficient, safe, sustainable, affordable housing possible in lieu of the costs associated with building traditional homes in an area constantly under the threat of flooding.

    This episode is over 2 hrs long but well worth watching. The time just flew by listening to the innovative, interesting and fresh ideas from people directly involved in the Clinton Global Initiative. I got the impression the enthusiasm in the audience was such, no one really wanted to leave. People were still actively seeking more information and volunteering new ideas.

    As ABM said, Hillary will be there today with Bill for the closing ceremony. All of the guests and events going on during the week are accessible on site, just pick and click..for viewing..

    h.. w… clintonglobalinitiative.org/ourmeetings/meeting_2009_annual_webcast.asp?Section=OurMeetings&PageTitle=Webcast

  19. DEMS HAVING TROUBLE RAISING MONEY??? BUT ISN’T OBAMA “SO POPULAR”???

    Wall St. giveth, Wall St. taketh away.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/24/AR2009092404906.html

    Democrats Are Jarred by Drop In Fundraising
    ===============================
    Complacency, Absence of Big Donors Cited

    By Paul Kane
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 25, 2009

    Democratic political committees have seen a decline in their fundraising fortunes this year, a result of complacency among their rank-and-file donors and a de facto boycott by many of their wealthiest givers, who have been put off by the party’s harsh rhetoric about big business.

    The trend is a marked reversal from recent history, in which Democrats have erased the GOP’s long-standing fundraising advantage. In the first six months of 2009, Democratic campaign committees’ receipts have dropped compared with the same period two years earlier.

    The vast majority of those declines were accounted for by the absence of large donors who, strategists say, have shut their checkbooks in part because Democrats have heightened their attacks on the conduct of major financial firms and set their sights on rewriting the laws that regulate their behavior.

    As the battle over President Obama’s effort to overhaul the health-care system reached a fever pitch this summer, the three national Republican committees combined to bring in $1.7 million more than their Democratic counterparts in August. The pair of Democratic committees tasked with raising money for House and Senate candidates — and doing so at a time when the party holds its strongest position on Capitol Hill in a generation — have watched their receipts plummet by a combined 20 percent with little more than a year to go before the November 2010 midterm elections.

    Large-scale defeats in the midterms could be a crippling blow to the ambitious agenda mapped out by Obama’s top advisers, particularly if they happen in the Senate, where Democrats caucus with a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority. The party will have to work furiously to defend at least six Senate seats and as many as 40 in the House, including many snatched from Republicans.

    “If they take them back, this is the end of the road for what Barack and I are trying to do,” Vice President Biden said Monday at a fundraiser for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), whose district was held by a Republican for more than two decades before her 2006 victory.

    Democrats said a struggling economy is only partly to blame for the poor fundraising performance and acknowledged a more perilous problem: satisfaction among activists that the party now holds the White House, 60 votes in the Senate and 60 percent of the House.

    “There was a little sense of complacency that set in despite our best efforts to warn people,” said Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “We made it very clear: Beware.”

    Democrats had watched the party’s campaign committees rake in increasing amounts of money throughout this decade, culminating in the 2007-2008 election cycle, when their congressional committees raised a combined $125 million more than their GOP counterparts. They used that financial edge to boost their candidates with seven- and sometimes eight-figure advertising budgets, often using that money to run negative ads that candidates shy away from airing.

    Now there are signs that such advantages may not be there next year.

    The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee was considered the party’s best-run organization as it oversaw pickups of 14 Republican seats in 2006 and 2008. But through August, the DSCC had raised just $27.5 million, a drop of more than 25 percent, or $9.2 million, from the same point two years ago. While donations from special interest political action committees have increased, individual donors are disappearing at a rate that has alarmed party leaders: The DSCC’s contributions from individuals was $18.5 million through August, a drop of $12.6 million, or nearly 40 percent, from two years earlier, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

    A midyear analysis by the FEC showed that the DSCC declines at that stage had come entirely from individuals who gave $10,000 or more, a small slice of overall contributors but a group that traditionally provides about half the committee’s fundraising total. Through June, those individual donors’ contributions had declined by more than 50 percent from 2007. The committee is running 12 percent behind its 2005 pace among large donors.

    Orin Kramer, the head of a private investment management company in New Jersey, said there has been a mutual belief among those collecting checks and those writing them that now is the time for deep-pocketed people involved in business and finance to steer clear of the political arena. “If there’s been a point in time since Teddy Roosevelt when an administration cannot afford to be perceived as being manipulated by the financial community, it’s now. There’s an understandable sensitivity, because it’s critical to avoid any sense that Wall Street has been empowered,” said Kramer, a longtime fundraiser for Senate Democrats and one of Obama’s earliest financial backers.

    Other Democrats and their aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal party strategy, said that rhetoric toward big business has grown so antagonistic that it has become increasingly difficult to raise money on Wall Street, particularly after the controversy about bonuses and executive compensation. The DSCC has also established a rule that forbids accepting donations from the handful of financial firms that received money from the Troubled Assets Relief Program, the $700 billion bailout effort approved last fall, and have not yet repaid the government.

    Democrats continue to collect more from big donors than Republicans do, with their trio of national committees almost tripling the amount taken in by the GOP committees in first half of the year, according to the FEC. But Republicans are benefiting from much more energized small-dollar contributors.

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee, which has been pitching itself to conservative donors as the only check against Obama’s agenda, has stayed roughly even with the DSCC in overall receipts, and its cash flow is 30 percent ahead of its 2007 level.

    Democrats remain optimistic that they will have the resources needed to wage a forceful campaign next fall, particularly in most of the six seats that are being vacated by retiring GOP senators.

    “The further we get into the cycle, the clearer it becomes that we will have more than enough funds to run competitive campaigns in each of our targeted races,” said Eric Schultz, a DSCC spokesman. “In fact, every day that Republicans wash their hands of any responsibility to deal with the economy and the health-care crisis, our supporters grow more and more motivated to help us.”

    Some Democrats characterized the fundraising bonanza they experienced during the 2008 election cycle as an anomaly, saying Obama’s campaign — which shattered records by raising more than $700 million — brought so many new donors to the party fold that some contributors have understandably drifted away without the charismatic candidate at the top of the ticket in 2010. They also said a busy fall fundraising season for the president and vice president began in earnest last week with Obama’s trip to Philadelphia, which raised $2.5 million split between Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and the DSCC, and Biden’s fundraising work for House members.

    However, the need for cash is more urgent than it has been in recent cycles, when Democrats had few vulnerable senators facing reelection. In 2010, the DSCC must defend seats in some of the nation’s most expensive media markets — New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver and Las Vegas — before it can even think of going after GOP-held seats.

    House Democrats have seen donations to the DCCC drop 16 percent, with individual contributions more than 25 percent off their 2007 pace. But party leaders saw a 50 percent increase in small-dollar donations in August, after what they hope was a wake-up call to liberals who watched endless cable news footage of conservative protesters dominating town hall meetings.

    “Our supporters around the country realized they have a fight on their hands,” Van Hollen said. “People are rallying.”

  20. wbboei, I think I have found a connection from where Chelsea Clinton works and the Soros Investment firm. Its thru this guy named Richard D’addrio. I thought this might be where the leverage could be and I repeat could be used to get Hillary to do what they want her to do.

  21. From my above post was this sentence:

    “Some Democrats characterized the fundraising bonanza they experienced during the 2008 election cycle as an anomaly, saying Obama’s campaign — which shattered records by raising more than $700 million — brought so many new donors to the party fold that some contributors have understandably drifted away without the charismatic candidate at the top of the ticket in 2010.”
    &&&&&

    Actually, Obama IS at the top of the ticket…(he’s been running for re-election since Nov. 5, 2008); it’s just that people don’t like what they’re seeing.

    Repubs don’t like his policies.
    Dems are starting to realize that Obama is not making good on his promises.
    Indies see a man who promised to be post-racial post-partisan stoke racism and partisanship to new heights.

    Whattaguy!

  22. NewMexicoFan Says:

    September 25th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
    Unfortunately for OO, the Clintons looks like the Global Leaders. I loved the story about the outhouse, and the snakes. Leave it to WJK to show how much he can relate to problems many countries are still experiencing.
    &&&&&&

    WJK? Is that William Jefferson Klinton? Isn’t he married to Hillary Hotrod-Klinton?

  23. This speech and presentation is unbelievable in its support of WOMEN. HRC through WJC is doing more for women Internationally, then NOW, NARAL,ETC could ever hope to. In fact, I think they should disband, and let Bill handle it.

  24. MORE LOW-DOWN ON THE BENJAMINS

    thehill.com/homenews/house/60335-a-star-is-born-wilson-raises-big-bucks

    A star is born: Wilson raises big bucks
    By Reid Wilson – 09/25/09 10:39 AM ET
    Weeks after a public outburst made him a national name, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is becoming a hot commodity on the fundraising circuit, pulling in big bucks for fellow Republicans around the country.

    During President Obama’s Sept. 9 address to a joint session of Congress, Wilson shouted “You lie!” when Obama said healthcare legislation would not cover illegal immigrants. He was later reprimanded in a largely party-line vote.

    But instead of making him a pariah, the episode made Wilson a star. His campaign committee has raised about $2 million, nearly twice what he raised and spent during the 2008 election, and suddenly, Republicans around the country are clamoring for his time.

    “He’s been asked to do multiple events,” said Eric Dell, Wilson’s chief of staff. “He’s always helped his colleagues. He’s always been someone who helps the team, ever since he was elected.”

    On Friday, Wilson’s name adorned an e-mail from the National Republican Congressional Committee urging donors to make contributions before next Wednesday, the close of the September reporting period, asking for help to “retire” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and support a bill to require legislation to be posted online for 72 hours before it is voted on.

    “Democrats don’t want you reading their healthcare bill — or any other bill for that matter. Their legislative agendas will do nothing more than grow the government, raise your taxes and squash individual freedom. That is why they have cloaked their legislation in mystery and rushed it to vote. Democrats cannot win the battle of ideas and they know this,” the NRCC letter from Wilson says.

    Earlier this week, Wilson penned a missive on behalf of Bill Howell, the speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates, asking for contributions to Howell’s political action committee in order to counteract “big liberal money.”

    And next Friday, Wilson will head to Jackson, Mich., to headline a fundraiser for ex-Rep. Tim Walberg (R). Walberg lost his 2008 reelection bid to Rep. Mark Schauer (D) and is running for his old seat. An invitation to the event touts the chance to take a photo with Wilson for $150, while a ticket to a larger reception will set donors back just $20.

    Dell said other Republicans had asked Wilson to record messages and videos for various events. Though Wilson is focused on his home district, based around Columbia and parts of ten counties that stretch south to the Georgia border, Dell said Wilson would do his part in the future to aide colleagues.

    The Republican National Committee, too, has asked for donations to support its efforts to combat the resolution condemning Wilson. In an e-mail to donors Sept. 17, RNC chairman Michael Steele pointed to several Democratic members of Congress with ethical clouds over their heads, including Reps. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) and John Murtha (D-Pa.).

    “The truth — the Democrats don’t want an apology. They want a side show,” Steele wrote as the resolution was being debated.

    But Wilson has proven a financial boon for Democrats as well. His opponent, Iraq war veteran Rob Miller (D), has raised more than $1.5 million since Wilson’s outburst, nearly tripling the amount he spent during the 2008 campaign, when he held Wilson to a 52 percent to 48 percent win.

    Meanwhile, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee used Wilson’s image just hours after the infamous incident, exhorting donors to “stand against” Wilson’s “unacceptable outburst.” The DCCC met their goal of raising $100,000 in 48 hours, a spokesman said.

    And in Virginia, Gov. Tim Kaine (D) responded to the letter on behalf of Howell’s PAC with one of his own, writing that Wilson’s foray into Commonwealth politics showed state Republicans were giving “tacit approval of disrespectful behavior.” Kaine’s letter sought donations for his Moving Virginia Forward PAC.

    Kaine is also the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, but that organization has not used Wilson in fundraising appeals.

  25. JanH Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    JanH read this article in the WP… and note the policy comments from the WH when Obama has known about Iran’s second facility with a uranium enrichment program since he took office.

    “On Wednesday, Medvedev said after meeting with Obama privately that sanctions on Iran might be necessary. A senior national security official said Obama was briefed about the existence of the plant during his transition into office and that he directed the intelligence community over the summer to develop a comprehensive presentation for the IAEA. But the United States postponed giving that presentation in an attempt to build a stronger case that the facility could not be used for more benign purposes, officials said.

    The waiting ended, officials said, when Iran recently discovered that its secret was out. Following Iran’s letter on Monday, which officials described as a vague mention of the new facility with few details, the United States and its allies scrambled to give their presentation.”

    “We thought it was very important to wait until the facility had reached the stage of construction and was undeniably” designed to produce material for nuclear weapons, one of the officials said.

    what in the world were they thinking letting Iran develope a nuclear bomb before stepping in to STOP them.?..

    h… w… washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/25/AR2009092500289_pf.html

    ~~~~~~~~
    And the difference in Hillary’s no nonsense statement you posted uptread….

    Clinton calls for IAEA probe of Iran nuclear site

    Fri Sep 25, 2009

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The International Atomic Energy Agency must investigate Iran’s newly disclosed uranium enrichment plant and Tehran must take immediate steps to show its program is peaceful, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday.

    “This is now a clear challenge to the international community,” Clinton told reporters in New York after Iran told the IAEA it had a second uranium enrichment plant under construction. The disclosure by Iran came just as six world powers and Iran prepare for rare talks on October 1.

    “This facility sharpens our sense of urgency and underscores Iran’s absolute need to engage seriously with us on October 1 and take immediate steps to demonstrate the exclusively peaceful nature of their nuclear program,” she said after a meeting with Belgium’s foreign minister.

    reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58O3LY20090925

  26. DEMS MOVE FORWARD WITH POWER GRAB

    Do as I say, not as I do. When Romney was Mass. gov, Dems did not think it was fair that the sittting governor be allowed to simply appoint someone to fill in a vacated seat, because that would be unfair. Such a seat would require a special election!

    Now, with a Dem, Deval Patrick (he o’ the blarney stone) in the Gov’s mansion, the Dems cry that it would be unfair to let a perfectly nice seat remain vacated, lest some important bill come up. No special election needed!

    Installing a confidant to TK perpetuates the image (and the reality) that the Kennedy’s are a plutocracy whose tentacles reach into other states.

    thehill.com/homenews/senate/60295-dems-reach-60-gop-cries-foul-

    Dems reach 60 with appointment to fill Ted Kennedy’s seat; GOP cries foul

    By Aaron Blake
    09/24/09 08:46 PM ET

    Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Paul Kirk will become the 60th Democratic vote in the Senate and the first new Massachusetts senator in a quarter-century on Friday, unless a state court intervenes.

    State Republicans are fighting the appointment, but Republicans in Washington indicated they would not intervene.

    Gov. Deval Patrick (D) on Thursday named Kirk the temporary replacement for the late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D), who died last month.

    Massachusetts Republicans called it a political power grab and questioned Patrick’s legal authority to appoint Kirk so soon after the State Legislature granted him the power.

    The state GOP is seeking an injunction to delay the appointment, and the injunction will be the subject of an 8 a.m. Friday hearing. Kirk is set to be sworn in later in the day, at 3:15 p.m. in Washington.

    Patrick is moving up the appointment to help Democrats gain a filibuster-proof majority.

    The GOP has cried foul because Democrats in the state were effectively giving Patrick appointment powers they had stripped from GOP Gov. Mitt Romney just five years ago, when Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) was the Democratic nominee for president.

    Senate Republicans could block Kirk with a filibuster if they maintained party unity. Democrats would need 60 votes to quash a filibuster, and they control only 59 seats after Kennedy’s death.

    Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl (Ariz.) said the constant tinkering with election law by Massachusetts Democrats was “hypocritical.” But he said he doubts the GOP will filibuster Kirk in retaliation, because “there’s a certain degree of comity in the Senate.”

    Senate Republican Conference Chairman Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) said, “It’s blatantly cynical to say that if there’s a Republican governor there should be an election, and if there’s a Democratic governor there should be an appointment.”

    Republicans kept one of Minnesota’s Senate seats vacant for months by threatening any effort to seat Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) after his race against former Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.) ended in controversy. In that case, they were aided by Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s (R) refusal to certify Franken’s win; whereas now, Patrick isn’t giving them any such luxury.

    Speaking at a press conference Thursday morning, Patrick said it was vital that Massachusetts be represented in the Senate at such a critical time. On Wednesday, the State Legislature passed a bill restoring his appointment powers, and earlier Thursday he sent a letter to the secretary of state declaring an emergency to expedite the process.

    Republicans say state Supreme Court precedent doesn’t allow for an emergency declaration in this case. Without the declaration, Patrick would have had to wait 90 days to make the pick.

    Patrick acknowledged that “for some in the Legislature, this was a difficult vote.” But he said he checked with legal counsel and was convinced he is acting within the law.

    He accused Republicans of playing politics with the appointment powers as well.

    “They though it was a good idea then” to appoint a replacement, he said. “I question why they don’t think it’s a good idea now.”

    “The issues before the Congress and the nation are simply too important to Massachusetts for us to be one voice short,” Patrick said.

    Experts were divided on the merits of the GOP’s case.

    Meredith McGehee, policy director of the Campaign Legal Center, said Republicans could have a point.

    “It’s not going to be an impossible case to make [for Democrats], but it could be difficult,” McGehee said. “For the governor to say this is an emergency — an emergency in the legislative process?

    “They’ve presented the court with some interesting choices.”

    Brenda Wright, the director of the Democracy Program at the Demos public policy research group, said the case doesn’t seem to hold much water, because the precedent cited isn’t clear.

    “The opinion didn’t really address the precise question that they’re raising,” Wright said. “Generally, if you don’t have clear authority for your lawsuit, and the question could go either way, that makes it more difficult to get an injunction.”

    University of Buffalo law Professor Jim Gardner said the courts are usually hesitant to override governors when it comes to emergency declarations, for fear of unnecessarily mixing branches of government.

    But he said the amount of legal precedent in this case could give Republicans a chance.

    “I would expect deference, but this is a situation where, if a court was not going to be deferential, this would be a good occasion for it,” Gardner said.

    Kirk, 71, is the head of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation and a longtime former aide to Ted Kennedy. He was presented as someone who can easily pick up where Kennedy left off at a time when Kennedy’s pet issue, healthcare, is before the Senate.

    He will not run in the Jan. 19 special election, when Massachusetts voters will choose someone to serve out the rest of Kennedy’s term. State Attorney General Martha Coakley (D) and Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) lead the field of competitors in that race.

    Kirk said the appointment was a “profound honor, and I accept it with sincere humility.”

    In a brief statement, the White House, which had pushed for the appointment, praised the pick.

    “Paul Kirk is a distinguished leader whose long collaboration with Sen. Kennedy makes him an excellent interim choice to carry on his work until the voters make their choice in January,” President Barack Obama said in the statement.

  27. “the United States and its allies scrambled to give their presentation.”

    ————————–

    What a joke.

    Thanks for the info, Mrs. Smith.

  28. Confloyd,

    I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for all your recent posts on Soros. So much valuable information to take in, but very important.

  29. Well, I hate to say this but I hope Israel is loading the B-52’s. I always felt he was waiting until it was too late to stop it.

  30. JanH, Thankyou, it helps to try and uncover the stuff and get it on here so people with literary ability can make use of it, otherwise I will feel like a sitting duck all of the time, LOL!

    OMG, there is so many layers its mindboggling. Its what they did on purpose, confuse and hide everything they could. The Muckety.com website has a wealth of information and many organizational charts.

  31. JanH Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    “the United States and its allies scrambled to give their presentation.”

    ————————–
    What a joke.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I should have stated more clearly the point I was trying to make rather than just posting a blurb and a link.

    It could be Obama was providing cover for Iran by not challenging them publicly about their second uranium enrichment program until then had their first bomb completed and threatened to use it if Israel didn’t comply with Iran’s demands.

    Someone leaked the info out (and it didn’t come from the WH) about Iran’s enrichment program…the WH never intended to have a presentation ready, they were letting Iran continue in it’s enrichment program unabated…

    If it can be proven through other sources the WH was aiding an abetting a terrorist country by avoiding and recognizing they are a potential threat to World security particularly Israel…. This could definitely be a problem that would sink Obama once and for all..

  32. Mrs. Smith,

    I have no doubt that obama has been waffeling (sp?) and providing cover. I was discussing this very point last night with a few of my friends. The concensus is that obama may not know what the hell he is doing, but he definitely has hidden agendas that bode well for his Arab buddies worldwide.

  33. There was just TOO much love displayed at the UN for him not to be in their pocket.

    I think we need to link his campaign donations to them, then we could have something.

  34. wbboei, Mrs Smith, Pls go to the Muckety.com website and help me understand how homer, bart, lisa simpson have anything to do with Obama 2008 campaign?? These have to be false names!!

    When you go there all you have to do is key in Barack Obama Campaign 2008 and it will show you a interactive map of contributors and alliances that got him elected. Very interesting stuff.

  35. Got the direct connection from the Obama campaign to ACORN, thru Citizens Services, Inc.

    Why haven’t the media been connecting the dots, WHY???

  36. JanH Says:

    September 25th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    Mrs. Smith,

    I have no doubt that obama has been waffeling (sp?)
    &&&&&&&&

    waffle
    waffling
    Waffler-in-Chief

  37. Are any of the parents upset about this? I only heard a quote from one grand parent??? If my kids were subjected to propaganda, be it left or right, heads would be rolling . This is plain wrong for public institution.

  38. JanH Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    I almost think that obama and his friends actually want Israel to take care of Iran. That way the monster’s anger and that of his buddies won’t rain down as hard on them.

    ======================

    That would fit his pattern. Like letting Congress and the GOP take care of his big money donors (insurance co’s, pharma, etc) while he stays back out of sight.

  39. ADMIN: spot on:

    (She) Hillary uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she’s a secure investment, he is speculation.

    *****************************************

    a few things from today’s news:

    Was Hillary Clinton right on Iran?

    It was a pivotal moment in the presidential campaign, when Hillary Rodham Clinton branded Barack Obama as “naive” for suggesting he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in his first year as president without any preconditions
    “I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive,” Clinton said after their July 2007 debate in South Carolina, adding that Obama gave an answer “I think he is regretting today.”

    During his inaugural address, Obama maintained his outreach to Tehran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has denied both the Holocaust and Israel’s right to exist. In one of the most discussed passages of his speech, Obama said,

    To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history, but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.

    Today, Obama spoke for a growing cadre of powerful nations — France, Britain, Germany and for the first time perhaps even Russia — in condemning Iran. Amid intelligence that Iran has kept a second nuclear facility, capable of producing 3,000 centrifuges, hidden from weapons inspectors for years, Obama warned that unless Iran acts immediately, punishment will be swift. “Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow,” he said.

    France’s Nicolas Sarkozy added muscle to Obama’s statement, warning that “everything must be put on the table,” and that if by December Iran has not reformed, sanctions will be imposed.

    And Britain’s Gordon Brown added spine, saying that Iran’s “level of deception” in keeping the plant secret for years, along with the scale of its nuclear ambitions, means that “the international community must draw a line in the sand.”

    Somewhere Clinton is sighing.

    — Johanna Neuman

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/was-hillary-clinton-right-on-iran.html

    **************************************************************

    seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8441

    Mandate + No Public Option = Unpopular taxpayer bailout of private insurance

    In the drive to bring health coverage to almost every American, lawmakers have largely rejected restrictions on how much insurers can charge, sparking fears that consumers will continue to face the skyrocketing premium increases of recent years.

    The legislators’ reluctance to control premium costs comes despite the fact that they intend to require virtually all Americans to get health insurance, an unprecedented mandate — long sought by insurance companies — that would mark the first time the federal government has compelled consumers to buy a single industry’s product, effectively creating a captive market.

    “We are about to force at least 30 million people into an insurance market where the sharks are circling,” said California Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, a Democrat who served as the state’s insurance commissioner for eight years. “Without effective protections, they will be eaten alive.”

    snip…continues

    ****************************************

    and then this:

    politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall

    Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

    This doesn’t happen often enough.

    Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

    Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it “Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.”

    The note was a follow-up to Ensign’s questioning at the markup.
    (handwritten copy of note is available by clicking on ‘this’ at beginning)

    ************************************************************

    **********************************************

    finally, missed the beginning of CGI with Hillary and will watch in later, however I caught the last hour and Hillary was there on stage as Bill spoke and introduced people…

    …all I can say is completely agree that the two of them are treasures to the world…I feel confident History will regale them as the two most important people at the end of the 20th century and as the 21st century begins – in so many ways…

    Bill Clinton stands there as a man who has proven that he cares more about the “we” and “us” than the “I”…he is remarkable…and Hillary is right there as an equal partner, however she was denied her opportunity to take the torch and keep running…

    Hillary is doing the best she can…and it is alot…with the hand she is dealt…i would not be surprised if behind the scene this week Hillary gave O a stern talking to…maybe like Cher did in Moonstruck…when she slapped Nickolaus Cage by the side of his head and said:

    “SNAP OUT OF IT”…as in O get with reality…stop the celebrity tour and get down to work…

  40. Mrs. SMith siad:
    PSD was winding down Hillary’s campaign just before Iowa, even for soliciting donations. By the time Hillary went to Vegas, the bulk of her warchest had been spent on expensive rooms for staff, hundreds of pizzas, hardware store purchases for shovels for shovling snow off the sidewalks in front of voting centers.

    ===================

    Some pizzas and snow shovels were practical. What wasn’t, was the “Hillcopter”, showing off in a helicopter around Iowa.

    I remember Hillary going on some talk show saying that it would all be decided Feb 5. Maybe that was after the first 3 primaries hadn’t decided it.

  41. ADMIN: spot on:

    (She) Hillary uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she’s a secure investment, he is speculation.

    *****************************************

    a few things from today’s news:

    Was Hillary Clinton right on Iran?

    It was a pivotal moment in the presidential campaign, when Hillary Rodham Clinton branded Barack Obama as “naive” for suggesting he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in his first year as president without any preconditions
    “I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive,” Clinton said after their July 2007 debate in South Carolina, adding that Obama gave an answer “I think he is regretting today.”

    During his inaugural address, Obama maintained his outreach to Tehran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has denied both the Holocaust and Israel’s right to exist. In one of the most discussed passages of his speech, Obama said,

    To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history, but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.

    Today, Obama spoke for a growing cadre of powerful nations — France, Britain, Germany and for the first time perhaps even Russia — in condemning Iran. Amid intelligence that Iran has kept a second nuclear facility, capable of producing 3,000 centrifuges, hidden from weapons inspectors for years, Obama warned that unless Iran acts immediately, punishment will be swift. “Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow,” he said.

    France’s Nicolas Sarkozy added muscle to Obama’s statement, warning that “everything must be put on the table,” and that if by December Iran has not reformed, sanctions will be imposed.

    And Britain’s Gordon Brown added spine, saying that Iran’s “level of deception” in keeping the plant secret for years, along with the scale of its nuclear ambitions, means that “the international community must draw a line in the sand.”

    Somewhere Clinton is sighing.

    – Johanna Neuman

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/was-hillary-clinton-right-on-iran.html

    **************************************************************

    seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8441

    Mandate + No Public Option = Unpopular taxpayer bailout of private insurance

    In the drive to bring health coverage to almost every American, lawmakers have largely rejected restrictions on how much insurers can charge, sparking fears that consumers will continue to face the skyrocketing premium increases of recent years.

    The legislators’ reluctance to control premium costs comes despite the fact that they intend to require virtually all Americans to get health insurance, an unprecedented mandate — long sought by insurance companies — that would mark the first time the federal government has compelled consumers to buy a single industry’s product, effectively creating a captive market.

    “We are about to force at least 30 million people into an insurance market where the sharks are circling,” said California Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, a Democrat who served as the state’s insurance commissioner for eight years. “Without effective protections, they will be eaten alive.”

    snip…continues

    ****************************************

    and then this:

    politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall

    Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

    () doesn’t happen often enough.

    Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

    Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it “Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.”

    The note was a follow-up to Ensign’s…
    (handwritten copy of note is available by clicking on ‘this’ at beginning)

    ************************************************************

    **********************************************

    finally, missed the beginning of CGI with Hillary and will watch in later, however I caught the last hour and Hillary was there on stage as Bill spoke and introduced people…

    …all I can say is completely agree that the two of them are treasures to the world…I feel confident History will regale them as the two most important people at the end of the 20th century and as the 21st century begins – in so many ways…

    Bill Clinton stands there as a man who has proven that he cares more about the “we” and “us” than the “I”…he is remarkable…and Hillary is right there as an equal partner, however she was denied her opportunity to take the torch and keep running…

    Hillary is doing the best she can…and it is alot…with the hand she is dealt…i would not be surprised if behind the scene this week Hillary gave O a stern talking to…maybe like Cher did in Moonstruck…when she slapped Nickolaus Cage by the side of his head and said:

    “SNAP OUT OF IT”…as in O get with reality…stop the celebrity tour and get down to work…

    (please delete the duplicate in moderation, thx)

  42. “If there’s been a point in time since Teddy Roosevelt when an administration cannot afford to be perceived as being manipulated by the financial community, it’s now. There’s an understandable sensitivity, because it’s critical to avoid any sense that Wall Street has been empowered,”
    ———————————
    The words “bought and paid for by Wall Street” should be inserted in every campaign commercial for Mr. Obama, to ensure truth in advertising. He does not represent the American People. He is a fraud.

  43. wbboei, I think I have linked the republicans to Obama’s campaign.
    —————————————
    We know about Rove. Who else?

  44. ADMIN: spot on:

    (She) Hillary uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she’s a secure investment, he is speculation.

    *****************************************

    a few things from today’s news:

    Was Hillary Clinton right on Iran?

    It was a pivotal moment in the presidential campaign, when Hillary Rodham Clinton branded Barack Obama as “naive” for suggesting he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in his first year as president without any preconditions
    “I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive,” Clinton said after their July 2007 debate in South Carolina, adding that Obama gave an answer “I think he is regretting today.”

    During his inaugural address, Obama maintained his outreach to Tehran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has denied both the Holocaust and Israel’s right to exist. In one of the most discussed passages of his speech, Obama said,

    To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history, but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.

    Today, Obama spoke for a growing cadre of powerful nations — France, Britain, Germany and for the first time perhaps even Russia — in condemning Iran. Amid intelligence that Iran has kept a second nuclear facility, capable of producing 3,000 centrifuges, hidden from weapons inspectors for years, Obama warned that unless Iran acts immediately, punishment will be swift. “Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow,” he said.

    France’s Nicolas Sarkozy added muscle to Obama’s statement, warning that “everything must be put on the table,” and that if by December Iran has not reformed, sanctions will be imposed.

    And Britain’s Gordon Brown added spine, saying that Iran’s “level of deception” in keeping the plant secret for years, along with the scale of its nuclear ambitions, means that “the international community must draw a line in the sand.”

    Somewhere Clinton is sighing.

    – Johanna Neuman

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/was-hillary-clinton-right-on-iran.html

    **************************************************************

    seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8441

    Mandate + No Public Option = Unpopular taxpayer bailout of private insurance

    In the drive to bring health coverage to almost every American, lawmakers have largely rejected restrictions on how much insurers can charge, sparking fears that consumers will continue to face the skyrocketing premium increases of recent years.

    The legislators’ reluctance to control premium costs comes despite the fact that they intend to require virtually all Americans to get health insurance, an unprecedented mandate — long sought by insurance companies — that would mark the first time the federal government has compelled consumers to buy a single industry’s product, effectively creating a captive market.

    “We are about to force at least 30 million people into an insurance market where the sharks are circling,” said California Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, a Democrat who served as the state’s insurance commissioner for eight years. “Without effective protections, they will be eaten alive.”

    snip…continues

    ****************************************

    and then this:

    politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall

    Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

    This doesn’t happen often enough.

    Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

    Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it “Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.”

    The note was a follow-up to Ensign’s questioning at the markup.
    (handwritten copy of note is available by clicking on ‘this’ at beginning)

    ************************************************************

    **********************************************

    finally, missed the beginning of CGI with Hillary and will watch in later, however I caught the last hour and Hillary was there on stage as Bill spoke and introduced people…

    …all I can say is completely agree that the two of them are treasures to the world…I feel confident History will regale them as the two most important people at the end of the 20th century and as the 21st century begins – in so many ways…

    Bill Clinton stands there as a man who has proven that he cares more about the “we” and “us” than the “I”…he is remarkable…and Hillary is right there as an equal partner, however she was denied her opportunity to take the torch and keep running…

    Hillary is doing the best she can…and it is alot…with the hand she is dealt…i would not be surprised if behind the scene this week Hillary gave O a stern talking to…maybe like Cher did in Moonstruck…when she slapped Nickolaus Cage by the side of his head and said:

    “SNAP OUT OF IT”…as in O get with reality…stop the celebrity tour and get down to work…

    (sorry for any duplicates due to spam filter)

  45. I remember Hillary going on some talk show saying that it would all be decided Feb 5. Maybe that was after the first 3 primaries hadn’t decided it.
    ——————————-
    That was Penn’s fault. He did not understand how the primary vote was allocated, and thought California was winner take all. Nobody could argue with the guy. Some friends of mine sent in a guy who was the leading expert in coordinating campaign message with polling results–a PHD from Claremont College. Penn refused to see him. When he finally recanted and spent an hour with him, all he said was I cannot use him.

  46. admin, sorry for duplications,I tried to get past the spam, please delete the last two and keep the first which has all links and if possible delete this…thx

  47. S, in this instance repetition is a blessing. The Ensign story alone is a keeper. Americans “buy” thousands of dollars of useless insurance from an insurance company and if they don’t they have to pay a $1,900 penalty. And if they don’t pay the penalty it’s a $25,000 penalty.

    We noticed someone in the comments mocking Dimocrats who will try to distract from Obama to George W.:

    Oh…they’re not going to do that! Do you really believe they’re going to throw people in jail for not purchasing Obama Insurance? Now, under Geo. Bush2 I could see that. Cheney would be all for it. Our “Dear Leader” is a kinder, more gentle man, who only wants the very best for us all. We should be thankful for his concern for us all. I have been brainwashed of course, and am proud of it.

  48. # JanH Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    I have no doubt that obama has been waffeling (sp?) and providing cover. I was discussing this very point last night with a few of my friends. The consensus is that obama may not know what the hell he is doing, but he definitely has hidden agendas that bode well for his Arab buddies worldwide.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obama doesn’t think for himself, he is told what to do by people like Brzezinski and the Soros Cabal. They feed him their daily briefing and he mouths the instructions for the day in front of people and newcasters swallowing the propaganda whole. Apparently, there was a plan afoot to continue keeping Iran new facility secret.

    Britain, Russia, France and Germany want access to the nuclear facility by the end of next week…No one is waiting for Obama to act. They are rolling over him like he is a Jr Senator from Chicago.

  49. BTW, beware that CBS/New York Times poll which sampled 22% Republicans and 37% Democrats. The poll is still not good news for Obama, but the poll downplays that fact. Jay Cost does the honors:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/09/the_presidents_choice.html

    Poll after poll shows the public has real concerns about the health care proposals working their way through the Congress, as well as the President’s handling of the issue. Even the latest CBS News/New York Times poll – whose 22/37 Republican/Democrat split has probably not been seen in an actual election since 1936 – shows a confused and divided public.

  50. huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/neil-barofsky-tarp-inspec_n_300178.html

    (he speaks on video at site) (how many ways can we screw the american taxpayer?)

    ‘Financial System May be in a Far More Dangerous Place than last year’

    Neil Barofsky is the man who tracks the historic bailout known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. The 39-year-old special inspector general monitors a dozen separate bailout-related programs that now account for nearly $3 trillion in financial commitments. A former federal prosecutor, Barofsky has subpoena power and has launched about three dozen investigations since being named to the post in December 2008. In an audit released in July, Barofsky made clear that he was intent on demanding transparency from all quarters — including the U.S. Treasury. His next audit is due in October. During an interview with the Huffington Post Investigative Fund, Barofsky made some striking observations. Among them were:

    He found hundreds of banks capable of tracking their use of the TARP money – despite claims by the U.S. Treasury that the task was impossible.
    If the purpose of the TARP rescue was to increase lending, it has failed.
    The U.S. financial system, now dependent on bigger and fewer banks, is shakier than ever.

  51. Correct Mrs. Smith: he is trying to pretend that he is leading this and fed the story to that effect to Foreign Policy Magazine article. I posted it above. And in true Obama fashion, I scrubbed the two references in it to him and substituted the words United States. In fact, that was a naughty thing to do because east is east and west is west and ner the twain shall meet.

  52. Hillary is doing the best she can…and it is alot…with the hand she is dealt…i would not be surprised if behind the scene this week Hillary gave O a stern talking to…maybe like Cher did in Moonstruck…when she slapped Nickolaus Cage by the side of his head and said:
    —————————————
    S: My concern is that he does not listen to Hillary, but pays attention to people like Jarrett, Power and Rice. Let us hope that Russia, Britain and France can put enough pressure on Iran to force inspections. This has been in the planning stages for some time. The catalyst is the willingness of Israel to act if the Europeans do not. Obama is a bit player in this drama. Bibi is the leader of the free world.

  53. “Britain, Russia, France and Germany want access to the nuclear facility by the end of next week…No one is waiting for Obama to act. They are rolling over him like he is a Jr Senator from Chicago.”

    ————————–

    Good. And if the media really think this week was a success for this idiot, then I hope they purchase lots of obama health insurance.

  54. The supporters of Obama have determined that Afghanistan is a losing battle for him politically, and future support for that war should be left to the Republicans. Therefore what he said a few weeks ago about this being a war of necessity is now null and void. The truth is we cannot afford it economically. But any repercussions arising from withdrawal will be pinned on him.

  55. And sure enough the whitewashing has started…

    Obama scores twin coups on Iran, economy

    reuters.com/article/GCA-G20Pittsburgh/idUSTRE58O5V320090925

  56. Was Hillary Clinton right on Iran?

    September 25, 2009

    It was a pivotal moment in the presidential campaign, when Hillary Rodham Clinton branded Barack Obama as “naive” for suggesting he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in his first year as president without any preconditions.

    “I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive,” Clinton said after their July 2007 debate in South Carolina, adding that Obama gave an answer “I think he is regretting today.”

    During his inaugural address, Obama maintained his outreach to Tehran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has denied both the Holocaust and Israel’s right to exist. In one of the most discussed passages of his speech, Obama said,

    “To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history, but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.”

    Today, Obama spoke for a growing cadre of powerful nations — France, Britain, Germany and for the first time perhaps even Russia — in condemning Iran. Amid intelligence that Iran has kept a second nuclear facility, capable of producing 3,000 centrifuges, hidden from weapons inspectors for years, Obama warned that unless Iran acts immediately, punishment will be swift. “Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow,” he said. France’s Nicolas Sarkozy added muscle to Obama’s statement, warning that “everything must be put on the table,” and that if by December Iran has not reformed, sanctions will be imposed. And Britain’s Gordon Brown added spine, saying that Iran’s “level of deception” in keeping the plant secret for years, along with the scale of its nuclear ambitions, means that “the international community must draw a line in the sand.”

    Somewhere Clinton is sighing.

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/was-hillary-clinton-right-on-iran.html

  57. Poll after poll shows the public has real concerns about the health care proposals working their way through the Congress, as well as the President’s handling of the issue. Even the latest CBS News/New York Times poll – whose 22/37 Republican/Democrat split has probably not been seen in an actual election since 1936 – shows a confused and divided public.
    —————————–
    So they sample twice as many democrats as republicans and then present that as a valid polling result? They have to stretch the the truth that far in order to present a conclusion favorable to the administration? Shocking.

  58. Bravo Hillary!

    ———————-
    Clinton Pushes UN Resolution to Curb Violence Against Girls

    By David Gollust
    United Nations
    25 September 2009

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Friday urged global action to curb conflict-related violence and sexual exploitation against young women and girls. Clinton is to chair a special session of the U.N. Security Council on the issue next Wednesday.

    Clinton says preventing the exploitation and marginalization of girls is no longer an afterthought but a core foreign policy objective of the United States, which is co-sponsoring a Security Council resolution on the issue next week.

    The secretary of state joined her counterpart from the Netherlands, Maxime Verhagen, at a meeting at U.N. headquarters Friday previewing next week’s council meeting.

    On an Africa trip last month, Clinton met with women and girls raped and otherwise abused by soldiers and irregular forces in the conflict in the eastern part of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the DRC.

    She told U.N. delegates and women activists here that the harrowing testimony she heard only underscored for her the point that societies cannot reach their full potential if half the population, women and girls, are oppressed and subjugated. “When women are accorded their rights and afforded equal opportunities and education and health care and employment and political participation, they invest in their families, they lift them up, they contribute to their communities and their nations,” Clinton said. “When they are marginalized, when they are mistreated, when they are ignored, when they are demeaned, the progress is not possible, no matter how rich and well-educated the elite may appear.”

    Clinton said the United States is pressing DRC authorities in Kinshasa “very hard” to bring to justice five military officers who have either been directly implicated in rape and violence against young women, or created the environment in which the abuses could occur. She also decried dowry-related murder and so-called “honor killings” of young women, and selective abortion and infanticide of females in many countries that has created the phenomenon of millions of “missing women.”

    Dutch Foreign Minister Verhagen, for his part, said the abuse of young women is not limited to developing countries as evidenced by recent highly publicized cases of murder, long-term abduction and exploitation of young women in Europe and the United States. “Human rights apply to all people, in all places, at all times, including the world’s children,” Verhagen said. “They applied to Rowena, Savannah, Elizabeth, Jaycee, Fawzia and to so many more girls whose names and faces we do not know. Where does responsibility begin? It begins here in this room, with all of us. Where does it end? It does not. Our responsibility as politicians never ends.”

    The U.S.-sponsored Security Council resolution, expected to win easy approval next week, will create a special representative to the U.N. secretary-general to lead, coordinate and advocate efforts to end gender-based violence in armed conflict.

    voanews.com/english/2009-09-25-voa35.cfm

  59. wbboei says:

    S: My concern is that he does not listen to Hillary, but pays attention to people like Jarrett, Power and Rice. Let us hope that Russia, Britain and France can put enough pressure on Iran to force inspections. This has been in the planning stages for some time. The catalyst is the willingness of Israel to act if the Europeans do not. Obama is a bit player in this drama. Bibi is the leader of the free world.
    ****************************

    I understand your point… in addition to Bibi, I feel Bill Clinton still remains out there on the international stage as (a) (the) leader of the free world…world leaders still look to Bill Clinton, regardless of O…as admin stated at the beginning of this post, O is speculation, many are beginning to realize that he is actually an unknown…and X factor, if you will, but Bill Clinton is a solid, known entity…and unshackled, so to speak…

    IMHO…I fully understand that Bill is not in elective political power, yet…in some ways metaphorically Bill seems like a President to the World (the Korean episode, etc)

  60. Just watching Bambi at the G-20 answering very important question, his voiced quivered ever so lightly when asked about Afganistan. Looked nervous when questioned about Iran.

    The man is way out of his league and it shows more and more everyday.

  61. “IMHO…I fully understand that Bill is not in elective political power, yet…in some ways metaphorically Bill seems like a President to the World (the Korean episode, etc)”

    —————————

    It might be wishful thinking on my part, but I agree with you.

  62. confloyd,

    It’s because he’s used to getting fluff questions or pre-identified questions from the media. Not that he is on the world stage, media world-wide are wanting him to impart his wisdom. Only problem is, he doesn’t have any.

  63. JanH Says:

    September 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
    “IMHO…I fully understand that Bill is not in elective political power, yet…in some ways metaphorically Bill seems like a President to the World (the Korean episode, etc)”

    —————————

    It might be wishful thinking on my part, but I agree with you.

    **************************************************

    sigh!

  64. S says:

    I understand your point… in addition to Bibi, I feel Bill Clinton still remains out there on the international stage as (a) (the) leader of the free world…world leaders still look to Bill Clinton, regardless of O…as admin stated at the beginning of this post, O is speculation, many are beginning to realize that he is actually an unknown…and X factor, if you will, but Bill Clinton is a solid, known entity…and unshackled, so to speak…
    IMHO…I fully understand that Bill is not in elective political power, yet…in some ways metaphorically Bill seems like a President to the World (the Korean episode, etc)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You got it.. Let the faint of heart step aside if they are too prickly with their emotions to keep the faith- I trust Bill and Hillary will get us through this in one piece and intact.

  65. There is a troubling article in The Globe Magazine, which is a source I normally place no confidence it. This is the same scandal sheet that set Frank Gifford up with the hooker to embarrass Kathy Lee Epstein who was and is his wife. Kathy appeared with Regis Filbin and was always talking about what a great lover Frank was.

    This article claims that Obama is preparing an enemies list of 25 people he wants to destroy. Beck tops up the list. It says Bill is helping him. I hope to God that is not true. Bill has reasons of his own to do something like this but I hope to God he does not sink to Obama’s level. That would be very destructive.

  66. Do you all think that Obama was dumb enough to think that his kissin up to the dictators at the UN with his speech was going to satisfy them?? I think he was.

    Ahmandinajab will be on Larry King Live tonight.

  67. Mrs. SMith, the more I see those two like we did at the UN, the better I feel.

    I just saw an excerpt of her speech, she looked great, and they looked great together. He is STILL campaigning for her and I have to say he doing a wonderful job of it.

  68. wbboei,

    I just read your post from the Globe. My first thought was of those farfetched headlines that often appear in these rags…i.e. two-headed man visits the moon…lol… I’m sorry and I don’t mean any disrespect to you, but this just sounds very silly to me.

    1/ I’m sure obama’s list is already much longer than 25 people.

    2/ I can’t see Bill Clinton having the time or inclination to get involved in something this criminal.jmo

  69. wbboei, It seems as though the Clintons are getting a chance to clean up their tarnished images that the likes of Gingrich and Ken Starr saddled them with. THis will be a good thing. Some of those folks who said things like “Hillary killed Vince Foster” and other horrible things should be put “out of business”, they are NOT good for our political processes or for that matter for our country. We all know it was all a pack of lies and those things need to STOP.

  70. Last night Larry King had Chavez on. Tonight he has this other idiot on. Why on earth is CNN giving these monsters airtime to spout their poison?

  71. Well, they need ratings so they can compete with Glenn Beck. My red flag went up today while watching Glenn Beck because he asked his audience if they were willing to lose everything and start all over again?? I felt funny about that question because it reminds me of unfettered capitalism ideals.

  72. JanH, You know Larry King could be a real hero to the world, he just needs to fix up his guests coffee. It would do the world a favor. LOL!!

  73. wbboei, It seems as though the Clintons are getting a chance to clean up their tarnished images that the likes of Gingrich and Ken Starr saddled them with. THis will be a good thing. Some of those folks who said things like “Hillary killed Vince Foster” and other horrible things should be put “out of business”, they are NOT good for our political processes or for that matter for our country. We all know it was all a pack of lies and those things need to STOP.
    ——————————-
    Scaiffe is on Hillary’s side and has joined CGI. Starr is holding out.

  74. S,
    Good catch.
    Here’s the text of Barthole’s handwritten note to Ensign. (for those who haven’t read it)

    (Written on Joint Committee on Taxation Letterhead.)
    Sec. 7203 of the code provides that if there is a willful failure to file, pay, or maintain appropriate records and the like the taxpayer may be charged with a fine of up to $25G and not more than a year in jail.
    WTF!!!!!!!!!!

  75. confloyd,

    I don’t usually watch GB but during chores I turned on the tube and a quarter way through the program guess whose ugly mug came on the screen?

    That’s why I always keep the remote handy for the brief time during the day when the tube is on.

  76. I will never forgive Gingrich for what he did to BC.

    He can go on Fox all he wants but he will never get my vote for anything except slimebag of the century.

  77. confloyd Says:

    September 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
    Mrs. SMith, the more I see those two like we did at the UN, the better I feel.

    I just saw an excerpt of her speech, she looked great, and they looked great together. He is STILL campaigning for her and I have to say he doing a wonderful job of it.

    **********************************

    confloyd…i happened to catch wolf blitzer within the last half hour or so and Jill Dougherty did a piece on “the pre-eminent couple’ Bill and Hillary Clinton…if anyone can find it on utube – PLEASE post –

    …it was wonderful…it showed when Hillary, Bill and Chelsea entered today and then clips of them speaking about each other…so proud of each other…Chelsea smiling on…all three of them beaming…and clearly indicated the strength and substance of these two amazing people…Hillary looked great…rested…

    …it ended with Hillary leaving to go do her part to ‘save the world’ and Bill remaining to do his part at CGI…they have come full circle and are still powerful…

  78. confoyd,

    Maybe we’ll get lucky and see achmadinnerjacket’s translator yell, “I can’t take it anymore” and collapse on the floor as happened with Khadaffy’s translator yesterday.

  79. Wbboei, what is Ken Starr doing these days??? I can forgive Gingrich IF he has truly changed his way. I know that he has found God and has come clean with his own indiscretions. Hillary as you know forgives easily, maybe we should to, but always be on guard.

    The reason I don’t like Gingrich is because of this economics. Total unregulated Capitalism!

  80. confloyd,

    I can never support Gingrich. I don’t believe he has changed. His sanctimoniousness in going after BC for his sexploits while he was having an affair is too much hypocrisy to handle.

  81. List of Soros owned, controlled or financed organizations

    1. 2008 BO Presidential Campaign

    2. Committee For Sensible Marijuana Policy

    3. Drug Policy Alliance

    4. Open Society Forum 2009

    5. BO Inaugural Committee

    6. Democracy Alliance

    7. Alpha Hedge Fund Managers 2008-9

    8. Quantum Fund

    9. World Economic Fund 2008-9

    10. Media Fund

    11. Joint Victory Fund

    12. Center For American Progress

    13. Move-on.org

    14. International Crisis Group

    15. Soros Fund Management

    16. Soros Economic Fund

    17. Earth Institute

    plus a dozen more organizations controlled by relatives

  82. Starr is Dean of Pepperdine Law School which is located in bright white building on cliffs which overlook Malibu.

    In other words, he has gone to heaven.

    As for Gingrich, you will be happy to know that he has converted to Catholicism and confessed all his sins.

    Therefore he can run in 2012 with a clean slate, new ideas and Wall Street backing. His position on mark to market tells you all you need to know.

  83. Our dear friend wobbei is the author of this wonderful compilation:

    THE SOROS STRATEGY

    A friend of mine with superb political, communication and media credentials has studied billionaire, market manipulator and left wing extremist George Soros in some depth. She is now in a position to begin building a working model of what he has done to install Mr. Obama. The first part of the hypothesis is provable based on conclusive evidence extant, whereas the second must be treated as a theoretical construct which explains much of what has occurred but requires additional facts to corroborate its validity. My friend is a staunch Hillary supporter who is trying to look at this thing clinically, as we all must. And the more you delve into it the more obvious it becomes that Soros is in charge and is guiding Mr. Obama.

    The first piece to the puzzle involves the Democratic Party–not as it exists today, as the wholly owned subsidiary of George Soros (as Don Iverson and other senior officials have confirmed), and the amalgam of big business and the radical left (as free media has exposed, and captive media has sought to hide)– but as it existed during the second Bush term. At that point, there was a struggle for control of the Party between the centrist forces represented by Hillary Clinton and the hard left represented by George Soros. That struggle occurred at the grass roots level, in congress and at the DNC.

    The Soros cabal selected Mr. Obama prior to that time. Indeed some of the old research I did confirmed he was selected as early as 2003 by Howard Dean who is very much a Soros man, and has strong family ties to Wall Street which people do not talk about. The cabal intended to run him for President at some point, they positioned him for it through the 2004 speech at the Democratic National Convention. The one thing the plotters did not know was whether the public was ready for it. They needed to test it.

    They chose Massachusetts as a test case for the proposition because it was the bluest of blue states. They ran a pint sized candidate named Duvale Patrick who was black, had an Ivy League education, and could deliver eloquent speeches. In each of those respects, he mirrored Mr. Obama. The question was whether such a candidate could win in the aftermath of a Republican incumbent. Axelrod was sent to Massachusetts to manage that campaign, but Soros operatives did the heavy lifting.

    Their strategy was based on positioning Mr. Patrick as an underdog (i.e. someone with remarkable ability who is unfairly held back by arbitrary factors, i.e. race), and delivering a message which was responsive to the emotional state of the electorate at that particular moment. That alone is not unique. However, what is novel is that they also developed a powerful capability to monitor the public mood in real time as discussed below. If it is true, and can be proven, then welcome to 1984.

    History records that Duval won the Massachusetts election, and has since managed to tank the state economically. But the point is he won. And by winning, Soros validated the tactics he would later use in the 2008 primary and general election. If you have ever wondered why Mr. Obama plagerized the speeches of Patrick, e.g. just words, it is because those words were tested and proven to work under laboratory conditions and Soros did not want to deviate one iota from the script.

    When it came to the Obama campaign, the same strategy was applied. Mr. Obama was not a legitimate African American because his ancestors were slave traders not slaves, as Jack Wheeler and other well wishers of his hasten to point out. Also, the ghetto life he has lived was at Morningside Heights (Columbia), and Cambridge Mass (Harvard). But he was black and that gave him the ability to claim racial identification, victimhood and make them believe he was the underdog.

    But the other part of it was to perpetrate the “Big Lie”, which was that Hilary Clinton was a warmonger, a racist and a clone of George Bush. How ironic that was, given the fact that Hillary and Bill have been strong proponents of black people and have opened up doors for so many of them at all levels. Nevertheless, they made black people believe it to the point that 9 out of 10 deserted Hillary and there was even a move to primary her in New York. Also, far from being a clone of Bush, Hillary was perhaps his most ardent and vocal critic. The charge was crap but it worked.

    In addition, Soros inter alia induced the Media into launching non stop sexist attacks against Hillary, and her supporters. They even suggested she wanted her opponent done away with. None of this was true, but it was part and parcel of the Soros Obama campaign to promote his puppet as an underdog, and to crush the centrist wing of the party which she represented. This is hardly suprising. And today, his goal is to reduce Hillary to a non person, and to marginalize her role as SOS. Again, it is working.

    (Note: in his youth, Mr. Soros was a Nazi collaborator who confiscated the personal effects of Jews sent to death camps, and at the mature age of 67 he told Steve Croft of 60 Minutes that he had no regrets about this. In sum, the man is a moral monster. His charitable works are a facade. His goal is to destroy our country and Obama is his agent. Today, he represents a cabal of financial interests. His partner is Mr, Wolfe of UBC–the Bank of Switzerland whose depositors are secret. Mr Wolfe met with Obama in January 2008 to finalize certain parts of his campaign. He met with him again privately at the Kennedy funeral)

    My friend believes that there may come a point where the public realizes the wrong which was done to Hillary–and to the country as a result of Soros and his cabal. This includes Goldman Sachs, General Electric and other Obama contributors who Putin agreed to see after Barack withdrew our missile defense shield from Poland and Czeckoslovokia. At that point they may see her as the problem solver and legitimate liberal who cares about the country more than big business. But with Big Media dictating what people believe that day is a long way off. In fact, if all the cards were put on the table it would be obvious to the world–as it surely is to us, that the real underdog in the campaign was Hillary Clinton, and she was the only candidate who put the American People first. Therein may lie her political salvation,–and ours as well, but only if we can expose the truth of the matter.

    Finally, the policies Mr. Obama has pursued since taking office and without regard to the declining state of the economy are the very same policies that Soros previously advocated on his website, from the stimulus bill, to cap and trade, to health care reform to amnesty for illegal aliens in furherance of is announced support for open borders and the North American Union. At some point, it becomes obvious that Mr. Obama is pursuing the Soros strategy which is as devastating to the interests of the American People today as his prior stategies were to countries like Britain, France, Russia, Thailand etc.

    The foregoing conclusions can be substantiated based on proven facts now in the public domain. The balance of my friends case requires additional proof. Therefore, it would be a good thing if hundreds of people who are interested in the truth could read what is stated below and then uses all resources they have to dig for supportive evidence. Given how fast Obama is moving, time is of the essence.

    During the Clinton Administration, we built the super computer. That device gave government the ability to mine information in real time from all the conversations taking place in the world through phones, email, faxes etc. After 9/11 programs were written to mine information based on key words used in those conversations–words commonly used by those who committed terrorist acts. Later, programs were written to monitor emotional states of people who might commit such acts. Ultimately, programs were written to monitor the national psyche in response to catastrophic events.

    In the newest book by Dan Brown there is a specific reference to this at page 74. Granted, the book itself is fiction, but so too is the work of Tom Clancy who writes books like The Hunt for Red October. That book describes in intimate detail the capabilities of American and Russian submarines. I can assure you that information is secret and in some cases it is top secret, but there it is. The point is fiction writers like Brown and Clancy have their sources in government, and that is where they get this kind of information. That is the badge of credibility.

    Much has been made of Mr. Obama’s tendency to contradict himself. This may not be contradiction at all, but merely adjustment to the prevailing national psyche as it changes from time to time. The polls are not always a reliable indicator. But if you could mine this information off the supercomputer in real time with the right program then you could in the words of Brown advise the President on the national psyche, could you not? And you could adjust the message while continuing to pursue the appointed agenda.

    It may surprise you to know that this is not illegal. The United States Supreme Court has ruled that government can mine this information without violating the Fourth Amendment right to privacy because of a legal fiction, i.e. that when you sign up with the cell phone company, the landline company etc. you sign a contract. And the legal effect of that contract is to waive your right of privacy, because is no longer just between you and the recipient. Believe it or not, that is the law.

    But even if that information is collected by the Super Computer and analyzed for its content based on key words, how does someone like Axelrod get access to it. When he was in a campaign mode it was difficult, but now that he is in the White House all he needs to do is ask for it under the authority of the President. Who could say no to that?

    During the campaign, Blue State Digital may have written a program to access that information. That entity is joined at the hip with the Obama campaign is a Soros funded entity. It takes credit for winning the campaign for Mr. Obama. It is now doing business in Brazil where Mr. Soros has recently acquired significant financial holdings. Mr. Soros is invested in Brazilian Oil and wants to make it the worlds bread basket. You could even speculate that if he is successful in tanking the United States dollar and economy, as he has done with several other countries, then Brazil is where he will go. Get it?

    So that is the working hypothesis. We cannot assume it is true, we must prove it. But do note how Mr. Obama has supported FISA and his now extending the Patriot Act. Also, my friend tells me that at midnight last night cnbc aired a program called Big Brother is watching, which discussed the ways in which government is mining information and using it to influence elections and policy. The program was produced in 2006 as a hit piece on Bush. However, to an even greater degree, it calls the game on Mr. Obama, which is ironic to say the least since he is their candidate, not ours.

    The bottom line is this: we need people to utilize whatever capabilities they have to show the direct corrollation between Obama and Soros. Like Bobby Kennedy did to the Mafia, we must show the key players on a chart and understand the relationships which exist and operate at sufferance to the interests of the American People. In the words of Lord Chief Justice Erskine, we must “drag those dark movers from behind the scenes” and show the American People who they are, and what they are doing to tank our country and promote their own cause which is world government. If they want to call this a conspiracy then fine let them do it. Let them also know that all history is a series of conspiracies.

    The force we are fighting against is powerful. However there is a saying in Quantum Physics which describes the current situation nicely: miracle happen when you align yourself with the field–that unseen nothing from which everything significant ultimately emerges. But again, time is of the essence.

  84. if you have some extra time on your hands and you want to read something that tries to simply break down the mess we are in…try this:

    thenation.com/doc/20091012/prins_hayes

    As we mark the end of the first year of the financial bailout, the public seems to regard the government’s actions with a toxic combination of rage and confusion. People are pissed off but too bewildered to know what to do with that anger. The confusion isn’t an accident. The government hasn’t exactly been forthcoming about how it’s made buckets of money available to the banking sector. When it does disclose some information–such as in July’s SIGTARP report from the Treasury or the Federal Reserve’s weekly balance sheet–it’s in the form of intimidating descriptions, accounting mumbo jumbo and technical reports that do little to illuminate just what the hell is going on.

    What’s worse, banks and the establishment press have portrayed TARP as the sum of the banking industry’s federal subsidies. An August 30 New York Times article, “As Banks Repay Bailout Money, U.S. Sees a Profit,” gives the impression that taxpayers should be happy to have made $4 billion on the deal, as if our checks were in the mail. But when the government became Wall Street’s bank, it wasn’t just $700 billion of TARP money that flew north to Wall Street. TARP was but a small fraction (roughly 4 percent) of the full $17.5 trillion bailout and subsidization of the financial sector. [See image.] The details of this total bailout are complicated, but the basic mechanisms aren’t beyond the average citizen’s grasp. We’re going to walk you through it.

    Five Easy Pieces: The Tale of Joe and Katie

    article/ the story continues…

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    how in the world do we ever break these cycles and regain control of our country and fiscal responsibility? the forces working against us are mind boggiling!

  85. S, you are right it is mindbloggling. All a person as to do is to go to Muckey.com and key Barack Obama Campaign 2008 and see how mindbloggling it really is.

    wbboei, I wish we could transpose Obama’s campaign and Hillary’s campaign and see if there is a difference in names and support.

    I did see on this chart our favorite traitor Patty Solis Doyle hooked up with Obama’s campaign!!!

  86. saw this comment at another site re: health care congress receives vs health care “reform” they are debating…

    “they are out of touch- they have been receiving pretty good, taxpayer-subsidized health insurance for a long time. The highest cost, fee-for-service family plan they can get costs them $410.57/month (the government- i.e. the taxpayers- pay $763.88/month into this plan). There are other, less expensive plans. The current salary for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000/year. Do the math- they’re paying just under .03% of their gross salary (or less) for health insurance. That would be a pretty good deal for most people- .03% (max) of their salary for health insurance. ”

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    now, I am the first to admit that math has never been my forte…BUT if I am understanding this correctly at a salary of $174,000, Congress is paying under .03% of their gross salary for their health insurance…

    AND YET…the Congress is working to construct “health reform” for the rest of us that FORCES us to pay at least 12% to possibly 20% of our incomes (that is, if you are not part of the 16 Million people out of work and growing) to private insurance companies for health insurance…

    AND IF WE DO NOT COMPLY TO THE FORCED MANDATE…then we can be fined, threatened and harassed by the IRS and ultimately be hit with another $25,000 penalty and/or jail time…

    …like I said…see you all either revolting in the streets or in debtor’s prison

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    btw…these days, how do they expect people to pay their mortgates by adding on all this right now???

    I honestly believe this is just another shell game to funnel money to the drug and insurance companies…it has NOTHING to do with health reform…
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  87. note: there was a correction to the amount congress is paying…it is 3% not .03%…

    got that? they pay 3% of there very generous salaries…

    so why are they trying to stick us with over 12% of our moderate salaries? it is robbery, plain and simple…

  88. How if f*cks name could anyone who ever supported Hillary Clinton now back Newt Gingrich? That makes utterly no sense. He did his absolute best to destroy the remnants of the New Deal and bring down the Clinton White House. I understand feeling upset with the Obama administration. They are frankly nothing more than “moderate” Republicans. We would have seen the same policies under Mitt Romney. But supporting Republicans is not the answer. They have raped the treasury for the last 30 years and absolutely ravaged laws meant to protect the American worker and the middle class. They have not changed their philosophy one iota. If anything, they are more rightwing, and the Democratic leadership is more right wing. Neither party is offering real solutions to lift up and empower the middle class.

  89. Neither party is offering real solutions to lift up and empower the middle class.
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    Correct. And that is the hell of it.

  90. if you have some extra time on your hands and you want to read something that tries to simply break down the mess we are in…try this
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    S: since I trust Volker, I accept the proposition that the banks needed to be bailed out in order to prevent massive default. But it was gross negligence for the fed, bush and now obama to not extract certain reciprocal requirements from the banks such as freeing up credit, not using the money frivolously, or to buy other banks, or to continue the speculative practices which led to the default. I also blame those parties for extending bailouts to non banking terms whose business models are obsolete to benefit unions at the expense of other people in society. That is very bad medicine.

  91. Where the hell is Donald Trump? The biggest mouth in the world silenced
    and not explaining why his property was going to be used for that Libyan scum bag….

  92. wbboei…

    exactly…and add to that no accountability…a fed that does not want any audits…and the continued bonusus…

    while the foreclosures continue to mount…

  93. Here it comes, that piece of S*it….
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    Obama: I know Americans tired of war

    President Barack Obama says he understands that Americans are tiring of the war in Afghanistan, and he said he is examining whether the U.S. is pursuing the right strategy there.
    tinyurl.com/yboyrjd
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    What a piece of shit he is. He is doing this for his brethren Islamfacist pigs, emphasized pigs. Afghanistan will fall to the Talibahn ( where the 9/11 plot was formulated), Pakistan will follow (nuclear weapons), India and Pakistan will begin the nuclear Holocaust

  94. The Bush administration should have pursued Afghanistan in the first place. It is where the Taliban were most visible. Instead Bush Jr. decided he was going to show daddy that he could get the job done, even though daddy told him not to.

    So now we have many nations who sent young men and women to Iraq and the losses are horrifying. The damage to Iraq may never be fully undone. So better late than never, the U.S. under obama’s fickled watch decided to join Canada and others, who were out of their depth, in Afghanistan.

    And now he proposes to leave a country dependent on the poppy and heavily leaning towards dependency on the enemy high and dry. This after more damage to a country.

    So how does this move stop the terrorists? Does it make matters worse or better? Will just the idea that the free world is slinking away be a victory for evil? What is the answer? Does anyone know?

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    jbstonesfan,

    I read somewhere that Trump leases that land to Arabs and that they took it upon themselves to let Ghadaffi squat there. Not sure if it’s true or not.

  95. Thanks JanH,,,,,,,,,,,
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    Wobbei is very brilliant in his analysis…..I am amazed at the depth of the posters here and often feel inadequate as my posts are more of an emotional type and not deep. I appreciate the forum nonetheless, and admire the many posters and administrator for the brilliant analysis in this otherwise “fairy tale” media world we are living in.

  96. Just to let everyone know,

    Weekend TV Talk Shows: Bill Clinton is on ‘Meet the Press’ and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is on on ‘Face the Nation,’ Sunday.

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/09/weekend-tv-talk-shows26.html

  97. gonzotex, Is the SOB getting out of Afganistan?? Leaving those poor women to be mutilated on a daily basis because his bud, Qudafi says the Taliban are innocent of knocking down the towers. Well, this is crap!!

  98. mj, you are correct, there is NO difference between the parties, for the exception of Bill and Hillary. They silenced them, but it looks like they might be making a comeback. What do you think, are they??

  99. I have definitely found where the William J. Clinton Foundation was formerly with George Soros’s “Open Society”. I repeat FORMERLY!

  100. I would not say Hillary and Bill are the best hope for this country. I would say they are the only hope for this country.

  101. wbboei, I have been playing on the Muckety.com website and found a link from Glenn Beck to the Threshold editions which goes to Dick Cheney. So we must be careful who we are following blindly.

  102. School children in the public school system are not the only ones having indoctrination forced upon them – so are the teachers. Today some teachers went through Professional Development. It is a requirement. There, classes had been shut down, and faculty had to listen to a looong diatribe that indoctrinated them along the lines of the “Dimocrats.”
    The keynote indoctrinator spoke at length and quite forcibly on the agenda of the Democrats, called himself a Yellow Dog Democrat, and oh, yes, a diatribe on those bad bad bad, bad REPUBLICANS!
    I got a first hand account from someone who was there and said that you don’t dare speak out against it because THE administration of the college system has a doctrine that you can not be a TEACHER and NOT be a DEMOCRAT.
    I am going to Google the keynote indoctrinator’s name and see what I come up with. Hmmm, I wonder if there will be an obvious connection to the Annennberg Challenge?

  103. short termer, we should get that to Glenn Beck.

    wbboei, I muckety’d Valerie Jarrett and compared her to Rahm Emmanuel. She has WAY more connections to various foundations. She must be the one that stinks, if you know what I mean.

    I also muckety’d our darling Meanchelle Obama, now that was interesting.

  104. This is a synopsis of his book of the guy who was the keynote speaker at a community college today during Professional Development – the indoctrination session. He was Terry Banion.

    Learning College for the 21st Century by O’ & Terry Banion
    This text advocates the community college as the ideal forum for creating a new learning paradigm for the 21st century. It describes the emerging models, the six key principles that form the definition and character of a learning college, and analyzes six institutions that have followed this path.

    Many earlier attempts at education reform have failed, causing some critics to call for a much more expansive wave of reform in which learning becomes a central focus. O’Banion presents an argument for the community college, with its strong penchant for innovation and risk-taking, as the ideal forum for creating this new learning paradigm. He proposes a provocative new concept called “the learning college,” which is designed to help students make passionate connections to learning. The book describes in detail the six key principles that form the definition and character of a learning college. Emerging models of this concept are already in place at a handful of community colleges, and six of these pioneering institutions share their initial journeys in this book. O’Banion provides a practical guide for community college leaders who are preparing their institutions to enter the 21st century.
    Author(s) :

  105. confloyd, I would be interested to know what the other teachers on Big Pink think of this, a long standing practice of indocrinating faculty, and if they have similar experiences.
    Why not muckety the name of Terry Banion? I would doubt much would be there, but he is trying to sell the idea and his book.
    We must be on there by ourselves. lol

  106. Admin: please embed when you have an extra minute:

    Recommended viewing for a sign of the times:

    youtube.com/watch?v=_i7HXBnFqmM

  107. short termer, I muckety’d both Terry Banion and Annenberg challege. He’s is not on either one of those but will keep checking and will check thru Barack Obama.

    I can also tell you when you key in the Annenberg challenge, there’s only two names, they are William Ayers and Barack Obama! LOL!! Didn’t Obama have amnesia when it came to the Annenberg challenge?? He’s a LIAR!! We’ve known all along.

  108. The final word on Sally Quinn after you wade through all the Daughters of The American Revolution crap, Smith College garbage, and caretaker of Ben Bradley nonsense:

    Henry Kissinger said, “[Post reporter] Maxine Cheshire makes you want to commit murder. Sally Quinn makes you want to commit suicide.”

    Amen.

  109. Bwaack is moving fast on the Soros agenda. . .

    No More Allies
    ABE GREENWALD – 09.23.2009 – 12:32 PM

    Barack Obama’s address to the UN General Assembly was much more than some feel-good, can’t-we-all-get-along pep rally for the multi-culti set. It was a straightforward explication of a worldview that seeks to redefine international relations along frighteningly utopian lines. It is a glimpse into the ideological stew that has produced the dangerous real-world policies toward our one-time allies that we now see unfolding everywhere, from Israel to Poland and the Czech Republic to Honduras. Obama said,

    In an era when our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero sum game. No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold. The traditional division between nations of the south and north makes no sense in an interconnected world. Nor do alignments of nations rooted in the cleavages of a long gone Cold War.

    Holding up the heaven-on-earth stuff is the logical architecture for an ally-free America. Line by line:

    “In an era when our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero sum game.” Ideally, there is to be no more competition among nations

    “No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation.” It follows that there is to be no hierarchy among nations.

    “No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed.” There is no exceptionalism, American or otherwise. And no nations are to play favorites. That means, among other things, the U.S. will not extend special privileges to democracies or other free societies.

    “No balance of power among nations will hold.”

    With no competition, no hierarchy, and no favored-nation status, states that have found themselves in a fortunate position as the result of dated rivalries and alliances can no longer be relied upon to impose balance on a region from the outside. (Like all utopian fantasies, this is propped up by a contradiction: balance will exist, but any attempt to maintain or impose that balance will, by definition, constitute a violation of that balance.)

    “The traditional division between nations of the south and north makes no sense in an interconnected world.” There will be no distinctions between developing and developed nations.

    “Nor do alignments of nations rooted in the cleavages of a long gone Cold War.” An incontrovertible renunciation of our long-held alliances.
    The next time some democratic leader is woken up in the middle of the night with a phone call from the U.S. State Department telling him that he’s on his own, he would do well to refer back to today’s speech as he scratches his head and tries to figure out what happened to his friends, the Americans.

  110. short termer, thru the Tides Foundation one of the directors also chairs and organization called the Noyce Foundation. It has something to do with schools, but I just can’t find enough on it. All these off shoots appear so bland to the naked eye until you realize they are funded by Soros.

    Mr. SOros’s web is extensive and he’s had lots of time to prepare it. I don’t see how the republicans will break it, unless the blacks don’t come out and vote. My guess we will have this embecile for 8 years.

    wbboei, the ceo of the Tides Foundation is a Doctor from Hawaii, can you believe that???

  111. wbboei, I have one more thing before I go to bed, all the other stars in hollywood threw Hillary over for Buttcrack for the exception of Barbara Streisand. She also belongs to the Willam J Clinton Foundation. I always loved all her movies, (Ive seen everyone of them) and her music is beyond wonderful. She is also a Jew.

  112. Confloyd: if Soros supports Mr. Obama, Mr. Obama does his bidding at the expense of the American People (both literally and figuratively), Soros is well along in years, and has no more confidence in his blood relatives than Teddy had in his, then perhaps Soros has designated Mr. Obama to be his successor. Any evidence to that effect would be to say the least illuminating.

    A friend of mine tells me that in this life there are lions, tigers and monkies. Lions are those in charge, tigers are those who aspire to be tigers and monkies are there to entertain. The real game is watching the tigers try to become lions, and the lions slap them down and push them back. The monkies are pleased to be there and mingle. They think they are scoring points, when in fact they are just entertainment until they no longer get invited. Try going to a Mayflower Sally Quinn party (actually her relative stowed away in steerage of a vessel from Ireland, but all that is beyond the memory of living men and ships logs like birth certificates can be altered) and this is what you will see. Bill Clinton is a tiger is a lion and so is Soros, Obama and W are tigers, Wexler and McCaskill are monkies. When a lion grows old he looks for a successor and he normally turns to a tiger.

  113. Its too early for this. Corrections to second paragraph:

    A friend of mine tells me that in this life there are lions, tigers and monkies. Lions are those in charge, tigers are those who aspire to be tigers and monkies are there to entertain. The real game is watching the tigers try to become lions, and the lions slap them down and push them back. The monkies are pleased to be there and mingle. They think they are scoring points, when in fact they are just entertainment until they no longer get invited.

    Try going to a Mayflower Sally Quinn party (actually her relative stowed away in steerage of a vessel from Ireland, but all that is beyond the memory of living men and ships logs like birth certificates can be altered) and this is what you will see. Bill Clinton is a lion and so is Soros, Obama and W are tigers, Wexler and McCaskill are monkies.

    When a lion grows old he looks for a successor and he normally turns to a tiger. That may be what Soros will do with respect to Obama.

    (Note: my friend admits that this vignette was stolen from an episode of The Rockford Files, but it is a case where life really does imitate art.)

  114. wbboei, I have one more thing before I go to bed, all the other stars in hollywood threw Hillary over for Buttcrack for the exception of Barbara Streisand. She also belongs to the Willam J Clinton Foundation. I always loved all her movies, (Ive seen everyone of them) and her music is beyond wonderful. She is also a Jew.
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    Confloyd: a great singer too. I remember when she first came on the scene in the mid 60s. There was nobody like her. The Rogers and Hammerstein stuff was terrific. The movies too as you point out. Hello Dolly was my favorite, but it never really succeeded at the box office the way it should have. You do not see that kind of star in the crop of 30 somethings, at least I don’t. Celebrity now trumps talent, imo. Things are geared to that and to the European Market. I met with a scriptwriter several years ago to discuss a project and he told me how it is in Hollywood now. People in their late twenties are calling the shots. They are the only ones who can stand the long hours he said. During the 1930s you had Irving Thalberg at MGM who was regarded as a boy genius and probably was, when he was not cross dressing and romping through the hay with his Norma Shearer. His age was an exception whereas today it is the rule.

  115. Confloyd: I think the Hollywood divide was based more on age than anything else. Boomers like Michael Douglas went with Hillary, whereas x generation types went with Bambi. Speilberg went with Hillary and his asshole partner Geffin went with Bambi. Clooney had his finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing. What a disappointment he has turned out to be. It almost makes you appreciate the papperazzi,

  116. Larry at NQ had an article praising Obama for protecting our nation against terrorism. I took issue with it in my comments but received no response. My point was that the arrests which occurred recently were the work of the FBI which is headed up by a Bush appointee and were not the work of the White House. But here is the real proof that Obama is failing on that point as well, if the criterion is the welfare of this nation. If the criterion is the Soros agenda, then in the words of Barck’s mentor Soros himself, I am having a nice crisis thank you.

    (CNSNews.com) – Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Border Patrol Director of Media Relations Lloyd Easterling confirmed this week–as I first reported in my column yesterday–that his agency is planning for a net decrease of 384 agents on the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal 2010, which begins on October 1.

    A Department of Homeland Security annual performance review updated by the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border to the Northern Border to meet the FY 2010 staffing requirements, with only a small increase in new agents for the Southwest Border in the same year.

  117. Obama is Carter on domestic policy and Neville Chamberlain on foreign policy. Brazil needs nuclear weapons to defend its borders? The elites who got greedy and installed this guy to loot the American People really screwed up big time. Big time. In the late 20s the Kellogg Briand Act was passed outlawing war as an instrument of national policy. Ten years later storm troopers were on the march. Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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    Brazil VP says country should build nuclear arms
    Sep 25 09:44 AM US/Eastern
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    U.N. Security Council Approves Resolution to Rid World of Nuclear Weapons

    BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) – Brazil’s vice president says his country should develop nuclear weapons.

    Jose Alencar says “a nuclear weapon has great importance” to prevent attacks on Brazil because of its extensive borders and maritime holdings. Alencar tells Brazilian newspapers that Brazil doesn’t have a program to develop nuclear weapons, but should.

    Alencar’s influence is relatively limited and he is not a member of President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s party. Brazilian officials insist they are developing nuclear energy only for peaceful means.

    Alencar aide Adriano Silva confirms the comments published Friday by newspapers including O Globo and O Estado de Sao Paulo. He says they are personal opinions and not a position of the government.
    Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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    And the great Obambi will sit by and do nothing. He is weak and the world knows it, we are no longer the leader of the free world. I’d like to credit all of the liberal drones who put this clown in office. This is just the beginning of America’s distruction, I hope you’re proud.
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    FiringSquad76p · 22 hours ago
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    “Can’t We All Just Get Along?”

    BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    “My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds.”
    — 1938 – British prime minister Neville Chamberlain —

    BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    That is an extremely nervous laugh BTW
    I think the world senses WORLD WAR……

  118. Dont let the lap dog media sell you any bullshit here. Bibi not Bambi is the leader of the free world. Bibi is willing to act, and he went to Russia personally, without Bambi, to tell this to the Russians. Now THAT is what brought Russia in line on sanctions against Iran.

    Bambis cave in on missile defense for Poland and Czechoslovakia was primarily to open the door for his contributors to do business with Putin. Another Rezko deal.

    Bibi was the one who brought Russia in line on sanctions. Now that is the unvarnished truth. It is how you deal with dictators. None of this kumbyaa crap.

  119. Obama’s ‘Final Solution’ for Israel

    By Ellis Washington
    September 26, 2009

    President Obama gave the worst anti-Israel speech of any American president I can remember.

    ~ John Bolton, Former U.S. ambassador to the U.N.

    The speech was good and positive for Israel and for moving the peace process forward.

    ~ Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel

    How can Bolton and Netanyahu, two seemingly rational, educated and intellectual men hear President Obama’s U.N. speech Wednesday and come to such diametrical opposite conclusions? Both men proudly claim that they are conservatives; both men claim that they believe in a strong, independent, defensible Israel with an indivisible capital at Jerusalem. Answer: One man is a statesman like Sir Winston Churchill; the other is a politician, an appeaser like Neville Chamberlain.

    Obama’s speech was delivered with the dispassionate indifference of a man who was handed a speech others wrote for him and loaded into his teleprompter for him to read like a robot, yet the devil is always in the details. Here are some of the highlights of Obama’s U.N. speech:

    The time has come to relaunch negotiations – without preconditions – that address the permanent-status issues: security for Israelis and Palestinians; borders, refugees and Jerusalem. …

    This paragraph could just as easily been written by Col. Moammar Gadhafi who ranted and raved for 100 minutes before the U.N. assembly and affectionately called President Obama “my brother.” Obama’s U.N. speech could have been written by a whole host of enemies of Israel – Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinians; Khaled Mashal, the Gaza leader of the terrorist organization Hamas; Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah terrorist group occupying Lebanon.

    What does Obama mean by “the time has come to relaunch negotiations”? This guy is such a narcissist that he thinks whenever he does something, like trying to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians, that he is the first leader to attempt it. Every U.S. president since Harry Truman in the late 1940s have in one way or another tried and failed to “relaunch” peace in the Middle East.

    Obama wants there to be “negotiations without preconditions.” That statement is oxymoronic. All legitimate negotiations between parties done in good faith must set reasonable preconditions. For example, the Palestinians (and all Arab and Muslim nations) must accept the irrevocable fact that Israel is a legitimate nation-state with the right to exist in peace. The Palestinians and the 44 Muslim nations have been fighting against that simple precondition for 65 years.

    President Obama further stated:

    The goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security – a Jewish state of Israel, with true security for all Israelis. …

    Can anyone name any place on the planet where a nation has a divided capital and is living in peace and security? Washington, D.C., London, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Berlin, Riyadh, Tehran, Baghdad? To demand that any of these countries divide their capital in half and give one half to their largest ethnic minority group would be tantamount to that country committing genocide against itself, yet for over 40 years this is the untenable position the world has placed on the backs of the Israelis.

    Obama further emphasized his anti-sovereignty point when he arrogantly declared in his U.N. speech that “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.”

    When Obama says, “… and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people,” he is using perhaps the most evil, anti-Semitic language I’ve ever heard from any American president against Israel. (“Contiguous” = unbroken “territory”; “occupation” = unlawful seizure of land). Obama seems to be demanding that Israel give back the land the Jews won in the 1967 war, a war fought and paid for by the blood of thousands of courageous Israeli soldiers and Jewish civilians. Following Obama’s perverse view of history, what nation on earth could lay legitimate claim to the land they presently have? There is not a place on earth where lands were not taken from another people but by force or war.

    Obama wasn’t finished with his screed when he said:

    As we pursue this goal, we will also pursue peace between Israel and Lebanon, Israel and Syria, and a broader peace between Israel and its many neighbors. In pursuit of that goal, we will develop regional initiatives with multilateral participation, alongside bilateral negotiations.

    What “goal” does Obama wish to pursue for God’s chosen people? Is Obama’s “goal” tantamount to Hitler’s “Final Solution” regarding the nation of Israel? Not to be histrionic here, but what other result would happen to America’s most faithful ally if Obama throws her into the clutches of Lebanon (controlled by Hezbollah and Iran), or Gaza (controlled by Hamas and Iran) and Syria, who two years ago was on the fast track to develop nuclear weapons to “wipe Israel off the map” until Israel tactically executed a pre-emptive strike against Syria’s secret nuclear facilities Sept. 6, 2007 – nuclear technology and weapons of mass destruction Syria bought from Iran.

    President Obama’s perverse worldview (not just regarding Israel) stems from the fact that virtually all of the people who mentored him during his early formative years were communists, terrorists, fanatical anti-Semites or haters of America. The most conspicuous example being Rev. Jeremiah Wright whose church propagated “liberation theology” – a racist, Marxist brand of religious hatred Barack and Michelle Obama dutifully enjoyed for 20 years.

    That bad seed of anti-Semitism planted in the heart of Barack Obama by Rev. Wright was in full bloom during Obama’s speech at the U.N. Ambassador Bolton wisely stated that President Obama’s U.N. address just put “Israel on the chopping block.”

    Let me be clear: A divided Israel is an Israel that will be quickly and utterly destroyed by the Islamic countries surrounding her who are sworn by their Muslim religion to “kill the Jew where you find him.” The Muslim world has dreamed of this day when a weak, Quisling leader in America like Obama would seek to curry favor of the Muslim nations to bolster his own universal reputation. The price? – a revival of Hitler’s “Final Solution” and the genocide of the independent nation-state of Israel.

    May God forbid.

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  120. While Obama dithered, Iran was busy

    We now know that Barack Obama has sat for almost a year on the information regarding Iran’s “secret” nuclear plant. His hand was forced yesterday by the Iranians who were the ones that went public with the information when it appeared to them that their security had been breached. This led to Barack Obama disclosing the previously withheld information regarding the plant. The Iranians kept the plant secret and Obama aided them by his silence. So much for the transparency promise.

    What damage has been caused by Obama’s withholding this information from the world?

    Instead of focusing his attention and efforts on Iran – a major geopolitical problem – he chose focus his efforts…where, exactly? The stimulus bill was cooked up by Congress; his health care reform efforts are stalled; cap and trade seems D.O.A. Instead of using his impressive rhetorical ability and his bully pulpit to focus on Iran, he bullied Israel over settlements and castigated and insulted American businessmen, Republicans, town hall resisters, doctors, policemen, and a wider range of Americans (and America).

    Yet, he praised the Islamic Republic of Iran and apologized for America’s actions in the Middle East. He held out his hand to a regime that denies the Holocaust while plotting to commit another one, and has a history of lying repeatedly to the international community while murdering away around the world (including its own citizens, uh..subjects).

    Obama has given Iran more time to develop nuclear weapons. But is there more damage that Obama has caused?

    He has allowed Iran time and wiggle room to escape the brunt of the one type of sanction that once held promise to restrain Iran: crafting and enforcing sanctions on companies and nations that export refined gas to Iran (Iran has been unable to build its own refinery capacity to meet the needs of a rapidly expanding population. That is what happens when you turn industry over to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards; they make American government bureaucrats seem efficient).

    In the last year, threats of sanctions on those few companies and nations that supply Iran with gasoline and heating oil have been partially effective. But the serious pressure would have come from sanctions passed by Congress. Had this bill passed other nation’s may have been persuaded to follow America in sanctioning the regime.

    There has been a bill in Congress – the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act – that has been bottled up by Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, in deference to Obama’s “diplomacy”, Now it appears that Congressman Berman is piqued that Barack Obama had information regarding Iran’s duplicity and hid it from prying eyes. Berman writes an op-ed in today’s Washington Post indicating that he intends to move on the bill in the coming months.

    But it may be too late, and this fact shows the damage Obama has caused by withholding information from the American people and the world community.

    In the past few months , Iran has arranged to import gasoline from other nations (China and Venezuela, among them) that will be less susceptible to pressure from America. Refineries are being built in Iran with Chinese help. Syria, Iran’s ally, is building refineries with Venezuelan help. The months that Obama has given Iran – with nothing but venom and braggadocio in return – has given Iran leeway to diversify its sources of oil. Its Achilles Heel is no longer very vulnerable. The Iranians have taken countermeasures to eviscerate the threat and potency of sanctions.

    As Helen Thomas might say, Thank you, Mr. President. … and we say, time to think about the benefits of early retirement,

    americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/while_obama_dithered_iran_was.html

  121. “Bibi was the one who brought Russia in line on sanctions.”

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    Bambi and his media allies are so desperate for a positive news spin, that they have no problem stealing accomplishments by others and bringing them on a platter to him.

    I see Bibi in the same terms as I see the Clintons. They see something that needs to be done and they do it, quietly and effectively, without the need for accolades. Hillary always prefaces her ideas/new initiates as being Obama’s. Yes she is a team player but she is also confident and not in need of the constant pats on the back bambi seems to need. That does not mean that the majority of us do not know that he is simply a rubber stamper.

    Bibi gets the job done quietly and effectively. His trip to Russia was an in-your-face snub to obama. It was done because Israel could no longer wait for an ineffective potus to step up to the plate. Bibi does what he does for Israel. Obama does what he does for himself.

  122. JanH Says:
    September 26th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    Because of Obama’s pathological duplicitous nature, (always steering towards the most lucrative deal possible from either side) he has compromised America’s prestige and credibility as an honest broker for dealing in the best interests of humanity.

    I can only hope the Global community rise to the occasion and sanction him personally for withholding grave information that could have had catastrophic consequences throughout the World.

  123. Mrs. Smith,

    He may not have been the only leader witholding this information. He may have persuaded others, i.e. Great Britain to hold off as well. It just seems to me that none of theses leaders showed true surprise when this came out. They were caught off guard and their spin doctors went to work.

    A global cover-up for the worst reasons.

  124. The bots are out in force at Larry Johnson’s shop. I questioned Larry’s conclusion and someone who calls himself prime bot roared back with a wonderful socratic retort which got alot of heads over there nodding. Well, here was my reponse. I was chatting with a retired property law professor the other day and he told me that after five years he abandoned the socratic method, because if you get a bad response to your first question, where do you go from there.
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    Comment by wbboei | 2009-09-26 10:14:04

    Prime Obot says: If Obama gets no credit when our law enforcement and security personnel catch wannabe terrorists, would that mean he wouldn’t get the blame if they miss someone and we do get attacked?
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    Wbboei says: No. That is sophistry.

    Surely you realize there is a yawning gap between what Mr. Obama says, and what Mr. Obama does. This has been true with campaign finance, fisa, lobbyists, defense contractors, big pharma, Afghanistan and virtually everything else. It is rather excessive.

    That being the case, it is quite reasonable to insist as I do that Mr. Obama should get credit or blame for what he does, not what he says, and especially not for what his 24-7 media machine imputes to him which has no basis in fact, and lacks balanced assessment.

    If you can show me that the White House directed these sting operations, and there was no entrapment, then I will agree with Larry. But if there is no such evidence then there is no basis to credit Obama.

    On the question of whether he should be blamed or absolved if there is a terrorist attack upon our soil, again it will depend on the facts.

    If perchance that attack were launched by terrorists who entered the country through our porous southern border, then the following would bear on the question of whether Mr. Obama adequately protected the nation:

    (CNSNews.com) – Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Border Patrol Director of Media Relations Lloyd Easterling confirmed this week–as I first reported in my column yesterday–that his agency is planning for a net decrease of 384 agents on the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal 2010, which begins on October 1.

    A Department of Homeland Security annual performance review updated by the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border to the Northern Border to meet the FY 2010 staffing requirements, with only a small increase in new agents for the Southwest Border in the same year.

  125. The most worrisome report that I read was the one in which someone asked Secretary Gates if there was any possibility that they maybe hiding more underground facilities and this is the one they will let us see.

  126. Somehow, I am on NY Gov. David Paterson’s email distribution list. I don’t mind; it likely came about during the time I protested Princess Caroline, and I’d like to see the guy have a fair chance. His latest email announces that he will be on Meet The Press tomorrow morning for the purpose of “discussing the state of the economy, challenges facing governors nationwide, and what true economic recovery will entail.”

  127. wbboei, What do you know about the International Crisis Group?? What I don’t like is that George Soros is a board member and so is Samantha Power.

  128. North Korea, Iran, and now Venezuela…

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    Venezuela Seeking Uranium With Iran’s Help
    Saturday , September 26, 2009

    CARACAS, Venezuela — Iran is helping Venezuela to detect uranium deposits and initial evaluations suggest reserves are significant, the South American government said Friday — the same day world leaders criticized the Islamic republic of secretly building a uranium-enrichment plant that could be used to make an atomic bomb.

    Mining Minister Rodolfo Sanz said Iran has been assisting Venezuela with geophysical survey flights and geochemical analysis of the deposits, and that evaluations “indicate the existence of uranium in western parts of the country and in Santa Elena de Uairen,” in southeastern Bolivar state. “We could have important reserves of uranium,” Sanz told reporters upon arrival on Venezuela’s Margarita Island for a weekend Africa-South America summit. He added that efforts to certify the reserves could begin within the next three years.

    The announcement came as revelations that Iran has secretly been building a uranium-enrichment plant provoke concerns among countries including the U.S., Russia, France, Britain, Germany and China. On Friday, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev urged Iran in a statement to prove it is not seeking to develop atomic weapons, saying the undeclared construction of an enrichment facility flies in the face of U.N. Security Council demands for Iran to stop uranium enrichment at its only declared facility.

    Iran is under three sets of Security Council sanctions for refusing to freeze enrichment at what had been its single publicly known enrichment plant, which is being monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

    U.S. State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said recently that U.S. officials also have “concerns” about a possible transfer of nuclear materials between Iran and Venezuela. But analysts say Iran, which has significant uranium deposits, currently has no need to import uranium, although those deposits may not be enough to sustain its future enrichment goals.

    Sanz dismissed suggestions that Venezuela could aid Iran with its nuclear program, saying Venezuela is only aiming to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Chavez has repeatedly said that all countries should end their nuclear-weapons programs, while insisting that Iran and Venezuela have a “sovereign right” to pursue peaceful nuclear ambitions.

    Michael Shifter of the Inter-American Dialogue in Washington said that regardless of whether the uranium exploration efforts lead to nuclear cooperation, they are going to cause “a serious problem in the relationship” between Caracas and Washington.

    Chavez’s government has “clearly announced they’re sort of beginning down this road,” Shifter said. “It’s going to be very difficult for the U.S. to really pursue any cooperation with Caracas on other issues because this is going to top everything else.” Chavez’s project remains in its planning stages and still faces a host of practical hurdles, likely requiring billions of dollars, as well as technology and expertise that Venezuela lacks. Russia has offered to help bridge that gap, and Chavez has announced that the two countries have created an atomic energy commission.

    But Sergei Novikov, a spokesman for Russian state nuclear agency Rosatom, has said there are no concrete projects and that any joint work on mining deposits of uranium or the radioactive metal thorium would have to wait until Venezuela decides whether it wants Russian help exploring them and, if so, create a joint venture for the purpose.

    Both Chavez and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are well-known for their anti-U.S. rhetoric, and have forged ties in everything from finance to factories, provoking concerns in Washington. Iran now manufactures cars, tractors and bicycles in Venezuela. Earlier this month, Chavez sealed a deal to export 20,000 barrels of gasoline daily to Iran, giving Tehran a cushion if the West carries out threats of fuel sanctions over Iran’s nuclear program.

    foxnews.com/story/0,2933,555720,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r4:c0.065694:b27968464:z0

  129. Wbboei, I found this little gem, its and open letter to Glenn Beck from the founder/ceo/director of the Tides Foundations thru his blog the Left Coast.

    Drummond Pike’s Blog
    September 23, 2009
    An Open Thank You Note to Glenn Beck
    Filed under: Global, Media & Culture, Progressive Movement, The Earth — Drummond Pike @ 4:15 pm
    Dear Mr. Beck,

    Thank you for giving Tides such extraordinary and generous attention on your shows. In the “no such thing as bad publicity” category, it doesn’t get much better. My mother drilled into us that manners really matter, so thank you.

    I doubt you realize it, but you’ve really begun to rally folks behind a commitment to change, of the sort that was so decisively demonstrated in last fall’s elections. I have to say that of all the things you decry about the people and programs we support, going after a video explaining sustainability to kids is really something.

    Of course, your assertions about last night’s topic, The Story of Stuff (www.storyofstuff.com) were absurd, but the attention you brought to them really helped. It:

    •Drove more than 25,000 new visitors to the http://www.storyofstuff.com site – more than twice their usual number of daily visitors. Thanks to you, 25,000 (and counting) visitors heard The Story of Stuff’s message and many signed up to get involved.
    • Raised more funds to help The Story of Stuff increase its impact and reach. Contributions are streaming in from existing supporters, as well as from brand-new donors who are now much more interested in supporting The Story of Stuff because you oppose it.
    •Sparked an avalanche of calls and emails from parents, teachers, principals and school administrators from coast to coast about how valuable The Story of Stuff is to teaching kids about sustainability.
    •Fired up the progressive netroots and grassroots in support of The Story of Stuff.
    You’ve really done your part to help increase The Story of Stuff’s impact, and as our elected leaders grapple with the very real issues of global climate change and the need for sustainability, your assistance in rallying progressives has been just wonderful.

    You know, with all you’ve had to say about Tides in recent months, we’ve never had the chance to talk. But if you are ever in San Francisco — you know, like for a wedding or something — I’d love to buy you a cup of coffee: Fair Trade, of course!

    All

  130. wbboei, I found this little gem from the Left Coast blog. Its from Drummond Pike ceo/founder/director of the Tides Foundation.

    September 23, 2009
    An Open Thank You Note to Glenn Beck
    Dear Mr. Beck,

    Thank you for giving Tides such extraordinary and generous attention on your shows. In the “no such thing as bad publicity” category, it doesn’t get much better. My mother drilled into us that manners really matter, so thank you.

    I doubt you realize it, but you’ve really begun to rally folks behind a commitment to change, of the sort that was so decisively demonstrated in last fall’s elections. I have to say that of all the things you decry about the people and programs we support, going after a video explaining sustainability to kids is really something.

    Of course, your assertions about last night’s topic, The Story of Stuff (www.storyofstuff.com) were absurd, but the attention you brought to them really helped. It:

    •Drove more than 25,000 new visitors to the http://www.storyofstuff.com site – more than twice their usual number of daily visitors. Thanks to you, 25,000 (and counting) visitors heard The Story of Stuff’s message and many signed up to get involved.
    • Raised more funds to help The Story of Stuff increase its impact and reach. Contributions are streaming in from existing supporters, as well as from brand-new donors who are now much more interested in supporting The Story of Stuff because you oppose it.
    •Sparked an avalanche of calls and emails from parents, teachers, principals and school administrators from coast to coast about how valuable The Story of Stuff is to teaching kids about sustainability.
    •Fired up the progressive netroots and grassroots in support of The Story of Stuff.
    You’ve really done your part to help increase The Story of Stuff’s impact, and as our elected leaders grapple with the very real issues of global climate change and the need for sustainability, your assistance in rallying progressives has been just wonderful.

    You know, with all you’ve had to say about Tides in recent months, we’ve never had the chance to talk. But if you are ever in San Francisco — you know, like for a wedding or something — I’d love to buy you a cup of coffee: Fair Trade, of course!

  131. JanH, That article is downright scary. I wonder why they are manufacturing tractors, bicycles and cars in Venezuela when their population is underemployed. I guess they are learning from America.

  132. Just a reminder that Bill and

    Hi All.Just a reminder that we have two
    important tasks for tomorrow.

    1. Bill on Meet The Press

    2. Hill on Face The Nation

    We have a duty to keep them out front on the news in any shape or form
    24/7.The fringe media as Beck calls them are stuck in a bad choice mode
    after annointing Bo and Mo and they have no way out of the Race Track.

    By ABM91. Good things are starting to take shape for our Clintons

  133. wbboei, you were wonder what the lefties are thinking of their Messiah, well heres one from the Talk Left comments.

    Last night I was contacted by the DNC asking for money to put up ads telling the real details of “The Presidents Health Care Reform Plan,” and debunking Republican misinformation.
    I told them I was sympathetic to their needs, but with so little leadership from the President, the Democrats have lost control of the debate and that I was unable to justify sending any more financial support.

    The fellow agreed with me that the President had not provided much leadership on the issue and that they were hearing that from others. He seemed perfectly willing at that point to say good-bye and thank me for past support.

    I guess only the White House is not getting the message.

    ft commentators over health care reform;

  134. wbboei, What do you know about the International Crisis Group?? What I don’t like is that George Soros is a board member and so is Samantha Power.
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    Power is an idiot, but this tells you why she was there with obama from the beginning. Another soros klingon.

  135. Confloyd: it is nice to see these lefties have adopted the fuerher bunker mentality, as reality comes crashing down on their ears.

  136. What’s a Senior to do? Caution: what you are about to envision may not be pretty so have your barf bag at ready!

    When Congress takes away my MediCare Advantage I may have to become a ‘performance artist’ to pay for my healthcare.

  137. The fellow agreed with me that the President had not provided much leadership on the issue and that they were hearing that from others. He seemed perfectly willing at that point to say good-bye and thank me for past support.
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    A rational mind would ask, if he is not supporting what we believe in, then why should we continue to support him. Too much to ask in this case however. And the band played on.

  138. Mr. Obama’s failure to confront the Iranian problem has given them the time they needed to build and diversify their nuclear weapons. Mr. Obama was briefed on this a year ago, yet he has done nothing. He is indecisive in his own right, and Idiot Power like Mayflower Sally makes you want to commit suicide.

  139. wbboei, the big tent democrat on the talkleft blog, say he/she will begin discussing next week how he/she will be talking about being more hawkish regarding foreign policy. OMG!! the little jerks are scared of Iran and now they forget it about talking blow their asses away. Its funny when facing death a person dispenses with mere talk, they want full blown action to save themselves. The little hipocrates!

  140. Contrary to what the Obama spin machine would have you believe his timing was lousy. He should have acted during the uprising, but instead he failed to pull the trigger and created another Bay of Pigs. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may asshole. This is no victory for you.

  141. wbboei, As much as I hate to give this administration any credit, that hole in the ground in Iran is more than 8 months old. So why did the “Shock and Awe” Bush/Cheney administration do nothing either?? I think this is part of the overall plan to F*&k the American people by the Capitalists.

  142. wbboei, As much as I hate to give this administration any credit, that hole in the ground in Iran is more than 8 months old. So why did the “Shock and Awe” Bush/Cheney administration do nothing either?? I think this is part of the overall plan to F*&k the American people by the Capitalists
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    Then let us agree they are in pare delicto–equally at fault. Two wings of the same bird, as Lou Dobbs says.

  143. That is the critical point here. Bambi is afraid to act. But if someone else in willing to put their chestnuts in the fire, he will give a nice speech. He is mouth and gutwind.

  144. confloyd and wbboei Say:

    September 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
    The fellow agreed with me that the President had not provided much leadership on the issue and that they were hearing that from others. He seemed perfectly willing at that point to say good-bye and thank me for past support.
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    A rational mind would ask, if he is not supporting what we believe in, then why should we continue to support him. Too much to ask in this case however. And the band played on.

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    yeah, especially since all this time and discussion is invested in no plan, just a mish mosh of five competing bills…

    bills…that the new ‘transparent’ president and senate will not even allow to be put on the internet for the voters to see because “it would take too much time”

    what a bunch of idiots…they are all so out of touch that they think we are not aware of the robbery – the bait and switch – they are trying to pull off…they assume they can just slip in legalease and no one will notice and then they will rush it all through and “too bad” it’s the law now…

    …the sleeping giant is the average smoe out there slowing waking up to the fact that this involves the IRS, penalties and maybe even jail time…if you have to choose between your mortgage, home insurance, kids college tuition and health insurance…you will have no choice with that week’s paycheck…the Obama government will decide for you or you will pay very dearly for your ‘health care’…like it or not…

    when i look at that senate finance comm – with multi millionaire Kerry and lobbyist Baucus up there with their condescending attitude I am fed up with the old lot of them…

    if nothing else, we need divided govt in the congress…all of their egos and perspective are completely out of control…they are talking amongst themselves (and their lobbyists)…it has nothing to do with us…

  145. Obama covered for Iran while they secretly built another facility making a strike by Israel almost impossible. All this while giving the most anti-Israeli speech ever by a Pres, no less, at the UN!!!! (Jew hater central). Israel must now chise to leave with a country vowed to destroy it having nuclear weapons, or , imo, hit them with a tactical nuclear strike….this is the only military option that can work for Israel.

    This is an evil man with evil intentions not only for Israel, but for anyone who dares challenge him. Our democratic/capitalistic form of government is vanishing before our eyes and it well might be too late to stop this.

  146. Obama covered for Iran while they secretly built another facility making a strike by Israel almost impossible. All this while giving the most anti-Israeli speech ever by a Pres, no less, at the UN!!!! (Jew hater central). Israel must now chise to leave with a country vowed to destroy it having nuclear weapons, or , imo, hit them with a tactical nuclear strike….this is the only military option that can work for Israel.
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    Absolutely correct. And now Iran is in league with Obama’s half brother Chavez. This is why I was so concerned that we take action when the Iranian protesters were in the street. The only answer here is regime change, and the United States missed the opportunity to do it. This inspection process will be a rope a dope, which will push off Israel and let them proceed, possibly in Venezuela. Mr. Obama either believes you can make friends out of enemies through style even though vital interests clash, or else he is in league with the devil. I think it is the latter and his name is Soros.

  147. wbboei Says:

    September 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

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    He covered for three reasons. He is in love with his terrorist friends. He is a closet anti-semetic. And the most important reason…He wanted to have a giant kodak leadership accomplishment this week.

    It didn’t matter what the fallout of his deliberate procrastination would be. This was a smokescreen plain and simple for an otherwise dud of a UN and G20 performance for obama. This was a change the message moment.

  148. You were correct then and now Wobbei…Sadly, people ignored every possible warning sign. BO said exactly what he was going to do in the campaign , albeit in very nuanced terms that the average idiot in our country could not discern. When Bill and Hillary called him out on it, they were, sadly, also not prepared for the lynch mob/ racist attacks launched at them. ‘Maybe, just maybe, Hillary accepted the SOS so as some have suggested, she can try and mitigate the damage he is doing. If so, time is running out and she needs to resign, call him out, and start the revolution for 2012…unlikely, but possible.

  149. obama’s polling is tanking so what does he do? It’s not rocket science. He wants to be a strong hero again to his slaves. Yep a kodak moment with world leaders standing all around him and nodding their heads like bobble dolls.

  150. I blame Bush a lot for this as well…he caved in concerned for his legacy and did not stop Iran or deliver the arms Israel needed at the time. Believe it or not, Cheney was correct all along.

  151. bills…that the new ‘transparent’ president and senate will not even allow to be put on the internet for the voters to see because “it would take too much time”

    what a bunch of idiots…they are all so out of touch that they think we are not aware of the robbery – the bait and switch – they are trying to pull off…they assume they can just slip in legalease and no one will notice and then they will rush it all through and “too bad” it’s the law now…

    ======================

    Hm, remember Alinsky’s ‘make them play by their own rules’? Someone should quote Obama’s own promises to put all bills on the internet for comment. Quote it to his own bots….

  152. jbstonesfan, it makes it almost impossible for Israel to strike!

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    key word— Almost —-I trust Netanyahu more than I trust my POTUS!! The jews are smart, they’ll figure it out and probably already have.

    My idea is Hillary’s idea, just obliterate the whole Freaking country with a nuke and have the trigger locked and loaded for anyone who wants to return the favor.

  153. wbboei, I don’t forsee that Hillary will run again, the infiltration of the Soros group is so complete, I doubt she will be picked for the next POTUS job.

    Soros could go with a moderate Republican to continue his goals of making American a baron waste land devoid of jobs and completely devoid of God. He is an athiest and that is what he hated about Bush was his Christianity. I imagine that is why he hates the Jews also. He is pure evil.

    Our govt. is saturated from top to botton with these maggots with more joining all the time.

    I found this site last night, it is called the Center of Progressive Leadership. This organization is a grassroots organization that is looking for more people with likewise ideas for community organizing and for leadership roles and people to run for office. This organization should be treated just like we are treating ACORN. It needs to go.

    There is also another site run by one of Soro’s employees of the Tides Foundation and it is called The NewCapitalist. Now if I have ever seen a site that has communist ideas its that one. I couldn’t hardly go to sleep after watching some of its videos and I also am a little down after watching it. Go there, from Yahoo it will make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!!

  154. confloyd Says:
    September 26th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    wbboei, I don’t forsee that Hillary will run again, the infiltration of the Soros group is so complete, I doubt she will be picked for the next POTUS job.

    Soros could go with a moderate Republican to continue his goals of making American a baron waste land devoid of jobs

    ======================

    You’re probably right. I’d expect that the big money people would try to get their puppets nominated by both parties, but are ready to back whichever is most useful to them in November 2012/16.

  155. wbboei, I don’t forsee that Hillary will run again, the infiltration of the Soros group is so complete, I doubt she will be picked for the next POTUS job.

    Soros could go with a moderate Republican to continue his goals of making American a baron waste land devoid of jobs
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    We are in uncharted water here. So are the elites. If you cut off the head of a snake –Soros the body dies. All it really takes is another stock market collapse and it is good by Mr. Obama.

    As for the elites, they never wanted Roosevelt but the people did.

    You have just got to wait and see. Things will not continue the way they are much longer. This is not a business cycle this is a structural collapse, and what ultimately comes of it is anyones guess.

    But whatever happens, the country and the world will need problem solvers and in a word that is what they say.

  156. wbboei, I tried calling you, but could not get thru. I have found something I can’t put on here. It is worrisome!

  157. Soros could go with a moderate Republican to continue his goals of making American a baron waste land devoid of jobs
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    I think Soros is a short term problem. Age is one factor. But the more people realize who he is, what he represents, and whose lives he has destroyed, the more difficult it will be for him to implement his plan. So your job is to continue doing what we are doing now so we can do our part to expose him. I am sure he would consider this effort funny, but that very effort to sneer at ordinary Americans is what will undermine him in the end. We do not like being manipulated, and we especially do not like being sneered at.

  158. Wade Radke—Founder of ACORN—-member of SDS—-director of The Tides Foundation(a Soros foundation)

    Wade Radke’s mentor is George A Wiley, here is his bio, its long, and scary!

    African-American militant of the 1960s, widely regarded as the father of the “welfare rights” movement
    Founder of the National Welfare Reform Organization
    One of the earliest and most successful practitioners of the “change-through-crisis” formula prescribed by the “Cloward-Piven strategy”
    Mentor of Wade Rathke, founder and leader of the radical cult ACORN
    Pioneer of the radical “franchise” concept, now used by ACORN and other groups, which enables local activists to quickly and easily build local outlets of national activist organizations through replication

    George Alvin Wiley is best known for his effective use of the so-called “Cloward-Piven strategy,” which called for swamping the welfare rolls with new applicants, beyond what the system could bear. The plan’s inventors, Columbia University political scientists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, hoped that the resulting economic collapse would lead to political turmoil and ultimately socialism. Cloward and Piven recruited Wiley to put their plan to work in the streets.

    One of six children, George Wiley was born in Bayonne, New Jersey on February 26, 1931, but soon moved with his family to Warwick, Rhode Island, a mostly white suburb of Providence. Wiley’s father supported his family by working as a postal clerk, but his heart lay in political activism, which he pursued by editing a weekly newspaper for the black community and leading the Rhode Island Urban League. Wiley’s mother was also active in black charities and political organizing.

    Wiley earned his undergraduate degree at the University of Rhode Island in 1953; received a doctorate in organic chemistry from Cornell University in 1957; fulfilled a six-month ROTC obligation as a first lieutenant in the Army at Fort Lee, Virginia; and subsequently accepted a post-doctoral fellowship at UCLA. He taught chemistry for two years at the University of California at Berkeley, whereupon he took a teaching position at Syracuse University in New York.

    As his career progressed, Wiley never forgot his political upbringing. He led a voter registration drive in Petersburg, Virginia while serving in the Army. During his stint teaching at UC Berkeley, he counseled student activists taking part in sit-in protests. But only after he moved to Syracuse did Wiley’s militancy begin to emerge in full. He joined the Syracuse University faculty in 1960. That same year, he founded the Syracuse chapter of CORE (Congress for Racial Equality) and became its first Chairman. On November 23, 1964, Wiley accepted the job of Associate National Director of CORE, making him second in command to National Director James Farmer. Wiley left academia that year to become a fulltime activist, moving with his family to New York City’s Lower East Side.

    Within 14 months, however, Wiley became disillusioned with CORE’s conventional approach to civil rights. He left the organization in January 1965, forming his own activist group called the Poverty Rights Action Center (PRAC), with headquarters in Washington, DC. Reflecting his new militancy, Wiley exchanged his business suits for dashikis, jeans, scuffed shoes, and a newly grown Afro. He took up residence in Washington’s Dupont Circle — not far from the Institute for Policy Studies, whose doctrine of “creative disorder” resonated with the underlying goals of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

    Wiley was just getting PRAC up and running when Cloward and Piven began promoting their “flood-the-rolls, bankrupt-the-cities” plan in the activist community. Cloward and Piven believed that their plan could spark a nationwide movement. To lead the movement, they sought an experienced organizer with vision, charisma and — most important of all — street credibility with inner-city blacks. That organizer turned out to be George Alvin Wiley.

    Wiley’s first act was to organize nationwide protests by welfare recipients. From June 20-30, 1966, about forty welfare recipients marched 155 miles from Cleveland to Columbus, Ohio, gathering at the state capitol with about 2,000 supporters to demand increased benefits. Their June 30 arrival in Columbus was timed to coincide with rallies in fifteen other cities, including New York, Trenton, Chicago, Louisville, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Wiley declared “the birth of a movement.” It became known as the Welfare Rights Movement.

    Wiley’s National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO) held its founding convention in Washington DC, August 25-27, 1967. Closely following Cloward and Piven’s recommendations, Wiley and his followers invaded welfare offices — often violently — bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law “entitled” them. Regarding Wiley’s tactics, The New York Times reported in 1970: “There have been sit-ins in legislative chambers, including a United States Senate committee hearing, mass demonstrations of several thousand welfare recipients, school boycotts, picket lines, mounted police, tear gas, arrests — and, on occasion, rock-throwing, smashed glass doors, overturned desks, scattered papers and ripped-out phones.”

    These methods proved effective. “The flooding succeeded beyond Wiley’s wildest dreams,” writes Sol Stern in the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal. “From 1965 to 1974, the number of single-parent households on welfare soared from 4.3 million to 10.8 million, despite mostly flush economic times.”

    In accordance with the Cloward-Piven strategy, NWRO pushed for a guaranteed living income, which it defined, in 1968, as $5,500 per year for every American family with four children. Wiley introduced the battle cry, “Fifty-five hundred or fight!,” raising it the following year to “Sixty-five hundred or fight!” Though the guaranteed income never progressed beyond the level of rhetoric, the tens of billions of dollars in welfare entitlements that Wiley and his followers managed to squeeze from state and local governments came very close to sinking the U.S. economy, just as Cloward and Piven had predicted.

    Wiley and his welfare radicals terrorized social workers all over the United States, but their greatest success came in New York City. Newly elected in 1966, arch-liberal Mayor John Lindsay knuckled under to every demand from Wiley’s NWRO. New York’s welfare rolls had already been growing by 12 percent per year before Lindsay took office. The growth rate jumped to 50 percent annually in 1966. “By the early 1970s, one person was on the welfare rolls in New York City for every two working in the city’s private economy,” writes Sol Stern in the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal. As a direct result of its reckless welfare spending, New York City was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1975.

    Crucial to NWRO’s success was its business model, which evinced certain odd parallels with the franchising strategy of hamburger chains such as McDonald’s and Burger King. Franchise chains grow through replication. Their founders create successful, easy-to-duplicate businesses, then sell licenses to individual franchisees, who set up exact copies of the business, at their own expense, in their own local markets. In addition to the licensing fee, each franchisee is required to pay a percentage of sales each month to the parent company, in exchange for the privilege of using its name and business system.

    NWRO worked in a similar fashion. It encouraged local activists to set up independent chapters in their communities. Each chapter became a profit center in its own right, generating money from its own local operations. Whereas McDonald’s made money by selling hamburgers, NWRO made money by teaching people to exploit the welfare system, then charging its beneficiaries membership fees for the privilege of profiting from NWRO’s shakedown operations.

    Membership fees alone did not cover NWRO’s expenses, however. Wiley’s radical franchise required outside financing to stay afloat. This came in the form of grants from federal agencies and private philanthropists. In his book The Tragedy of American Compassion, former communist and promoter of “compassionate conservatism” Marvin Olasky notes that NWRO received more than $500,000 from the National Council of Churches from 1968 to 1971. At one point, Johnson administration officials signed a contract to give NWRO $435,000. Wiley received only $106,000 of this sum before President Nixon cancelled the grant in 1969. Despite such occasional setbacks, federal aid flowed freely to Wiley’s group from many sources and in many different forms, including free legal aid and free office space from the Legal Services division of the Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO).

    Fueled by its multitudinous income streams, NWRO chapters sprouted up from coast to coast. By 1969, NWRO claimed a dues-paying membership of 22,500 families, with 523 chapters across the nation.

    With Richard Nixon’s accession to the White House in 1968, the federal funds that drove NWRO began drying up. So did the public’s patience for the sort of violent tactics Wiley promoted. As money tightened, NWRO’s leaders began turning on each other. White activists were driven from leadership positions by black extremists. Wiley himself came under attack for his middle-class background. A poor people’s organization should be run by poor people, the insurgents declared. Pressure grew to fill every leadership slot with welfare recipients, rather than with the professional activists who had previously led NWRO.

    Wiley announced his resignation in a New York Times interview of December 16, 1971. “The welfare rights movement created a political and economic crisis around the issue of welfare which could have led to reform or repression,” he told the Times. “What we are witnessing is repression, and we need a broad organized movement to counter it.”

    Wiley said that he would officially leave NWRO on January 31, 1972, in order to start a new group called The Movement for Economic Justice. “In some ways, people are tired of the issue of welfare and the label is a problem …” he said. “The real welfare in this country is going to the Department of Defense, the railroads, the airlines and to other corporations through tax loopholes.” Wiley declared that he would reach out across class and racial lines, building a coalition of the working poor, the unemployed, senior citizens and the lower middle-class (those making $5,000 to $15,000 per year) around such issues as national health insurance, consumer rights, housing, daycare, and tax reform. He explained that he was not abandoning his original mission, but expanding it. Welfare was only one of many paths to his ultimate goal: “income redistribution.”

    The Movement for Economic Justice never got off the ground. Wiley died in a boating accident on August 8, 1973. NWRO closed its doors two years later. Its stormy history had lasted only eight years, from 1967 to 1975. But Wiley’s concept of the radical franchise chain, whose operations can be duplicated in any community, continues to inspire imitators to this day, such as ACORN and the PIRG groups. Former NWRO activist Mark Toney credits Wiley with “introducing the first organizing model that was consciously designed to be replicable anywhere in the country. The many community organizations today that use a standard model when they start a chapter in a new community have NWRO to thank for the concept.”

    Wiley’s legacy lives on most powerfully through ACORN — a nationwide movement founded and led by Wiley’s protegé Wade Rathke, a former Students for a Democratic Society militant and onetime NWRO organizer. ACORN and its front groups today are the leading practitioners of the “Cloward-Piven strategy” that Wiley pioneered.

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  159. I’m shaking down to the opinion, that except for the Clintons and a few allies, there’s no point in us thinking about a balanced budget or anything like that.

    Whichever party controls Congrss can print all the money they want (“deficit spending”) and give it to their own friends and donors. The GOP gives it to Halliburton and military suppliers. The Democrats used to give it to welfare voters but now gives it to bankers.

    So the only thing worth doing is to grab as much of it as we can for our own favorite causes.

  160. wbboei, Here’s another chart that is interesting, especially those of us who are worried about healthcare;

    Soros—Open Society—-Aryeh Neier,President of “Open Society”—-Nueva Vista Group–Alliance for care at the end of life

    How do you like that link

  161. Poll finds New Yorkers tell Obama to butt out

    September 24, 2009

    ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — President Barack Obama is getting a round of boos for reportedly undermining New York Gov. David Paterson in one of the nation’s most Democratic states, according to a Marist College poll released Thursday.

    Meanwhile, Democratic Rep. Gregory Meeks of Queens said in Washington that although he was acting on a concern from the White House about Paterson’s low poll numbers, Obama never ordered him to deliver a message to the governor that he should drop out of the 2010 race. “I was not told by the White House to tell him to get out of the race, it was more of ‘There are strong concerns,'” Meeks told The Associated Press. “What happened was they had concerns about various numbers, polls numbers, et cetera. Once that was communicated to me, I thought it was important to tell my friend that the White House had concerns.”

    A Marist College poll finds 62 percent of New Yorkers say the Democratic president should stay out of New York politics. Even 51 percent of New York Democrats feel the White House was meddling where it didn’t belong.

    The poll asked voters if they thought it was right for the White House to “suggest” Paterson not run next year. The effort to get Paterson out of the race is widely attributed to the White House in news reports citing unnamed sources. An Obama spokesman on Monday wouldn’t say whether or not the administration was involved.

    The episode began late Saturday night when The New York Times reported that the Obama administration had sent a clear message that Paterson should step aside for the more popular Andrew Cuomo, now the state’s Democratic attorney general. It continued during a presidential visit near Albany Monday, when Obama’s comments and body language were generally read as favoring Cuomo over Paterson.

    The conflict evidently has hurt Obama’s popularity in New York. His approval rating in the Marist poll dropped 5 points in the last week to 52 percent.

    Meeks said Obama didn’t speak to him about the issue and Cuomo wasn’t involved. “The administration has seven years to go here, and he wants to make sure we get this agenda done,” Meeks said, anticipating Obama will win a second four-year term. “So he has the right to have concerns about races throughout this country.”

    Democrats are concerned that Paterson, whose 17 percent approval ratings are the lowest a New York governor has ever had, could weaken the ticket so much that it would threaten the all-Democratic control of state government, said Lee Miringoff of the Marist poll. It also could entice former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the Republicans’ most popular potential candidate, to run for governor. Cuomo has personal record-high poll numbers as attorney general and the potential to lead a stronger ticket while staving off Giuliani.

    “I think that sounds more like an excuse than a reality,” Giuliani said Thursday after a speech in New York City. “They have no idea whether I’m going to run or not, and we have no idea what that would look like a year from now.”

    Meeks says he hopes the situation will be resolved soon for “my governor, my friend, who has done a relatively good job.”

    There was no immediate comment from Paterson or the White House.

    Meeks said, as have other top Democrats in New York, that Paterson has to figure out “what he wants.”

    Those comments come even as Paterson almost daily has said he’s “clearly running” and has no intention of dropping out.

    newsday.com/news/new-york/poll-finds-new-yorkers-tell-obama-to-butt-out-1.1473622

  162. Meeks told The Associated Press. “What happened was they had concerns about various numbers, polls numbers, et cetera. Once that was communicated to me, I thought it was important to tell my friend that the White House had concerns.”

    Question: how many times and how many ways was that conversation massaged. The technical term is “horse shedding a witness”.

  163. WO!
    Sorry for the length but this is an amazing speech by Geert Wilds in support of Israel on Sept. 25 at the Four Seasons hotel!

    www dot oilforimmigration dot org

    (Thanks for the link, confloyd)

    Here are the last few passages but if you have time, read the whole thing.

    It lays out in stark terms what the struggle aginst Islamo-fascism and Sharia Law really means and how Israel is the last line of defense.

    It’s from a European perspective, where whole areas of countries have been overtaken by fundamentalist Muslims.
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    Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam ‘the most retrograde force in the world’, and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel . First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense

    This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam’s territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines , Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan , Lebanon , and Aceh in Indonesia . Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.
    The war against Israel is not a war against Israel . It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us.. If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.
    Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel , they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a ‘right-wing extremists’ or ‘racists’.
    In my country, the Netherlands , 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America – as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome , Athens and Jerusalem .
    Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe ’s children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.

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