The Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss

Almost two years ago exactly, on September 24, 2007, we discussed the Obama Health Care Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss in an article called “Reality Based Community”.

We have recently pointed out repeatedly that for all the words and publicity stunts staged this year Barack Obama has not actually submitted a health care plan, let alone an Universal Health Care Plan.

What we do have at the moment is a bunch of mish-mash proposals from four (soon to be five) committees in the U.S. Senate and U.S. House Of Representatives. The five plans are as welcome to the health care debate as the Ebola virus is to a school full of young children.

Almost two years ago we wrote what we will write about again today and what we will write about again and again: The Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss.

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Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss the Obama history on health care as described by a Big Media outlet in 2007. Ordinarily, Big Media, PINOs, and Dimocrats would race to research the history of those proposing major changes to any policy. But a strange blindness, a willful blindness afflicts Big Media, PINOs and Dimocrats when it comes to Obama. Big Media, PINOs and Dimocrats, do not want to look at Barack Obama’s history on health care.

Big Media, PINOs and Dimocrats expressed disbelief and shock when, after initial White House denials followed by proof, the juicy deal between Obama and Big PhaRma was exposed last month.

The history of the deal Barack Obama fellated from Big PhaRma was very ugly. Not only was the union between Obama and Big PhaRma ugly, it was a consensual affair with Billy Tauzin – a man Obama had whipped with denunciations during the election campaigns of 2008.

To add to the shock and disbelief from Big Media, PINOs and Dimocrats, the secret wedding of Obama and Big PhaRma was consummated in February of this year when Obama was riding high in public opinion polls and had no need to get on his knees before Big PhaRma. The details of the unholy union became known in August when Obama’s false pregnancy did not result in a health care reform plan baby.

The Barack Obama Health Care Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want to Discuss ironically enough was published by Big Media outlet The Boston Globe on September 23, 2007. The elemental discussion which detail by detail replicates what thus far has happened this year is not however discussed now by The Boston Globe nor any other Big Media outlet, nor by PINOs, nor by Dimocrats.

Here is what The Boston Globe wrote then which is not discussed now by Obama and his fluffers:

When Barack Obama and fellow state lawmakers in Illinois tried to expand healthcare coverage in 2003 with the “Health Care Justice Act,” they drew fierce opposition from the insurance industry, which saw it as a back-handed attempt to impose a government-run system.

Over the next 15 months, insurers and their lobbyists found a sympathetic ear in Obama, who amended the bill more to their liking partly because of concerns they raised with him and his aides, according to lobbyists, Senate staff, and Obama’s remarks on the Senate floor.

The writer of The Boston Globe article, Scott Helman, understood that the fight in Illinois in 2004 “illustrates how Obama, during his eight years in the Illinois Senate” conducted business. Writes Helman, in the article that should inform those concerned about true universal health care reform:

But it also shows how Obama’s own experience in lawmaking involved dealings with the kinds of lobbyists and special interests he now demonizes on the campaign trail.

Obama has tried to distinguish himself from rival Hillary Clinton by criticizing her ties to lobbyists and special interests, and, unlike her, refusing to take contributions from federal lobbyists and political action committees.

Hillary was attacked by Obama and his Hopium dealing thugs because she publicly stated she understood that all sides had to be considered in policy discussions, but that there would be no “celestial choirs”, just a fight for core Democratic values and principles. Hillary understood when to stand on common ground and when to stand her ground. Obama gets on the ground:

On one side were healthcare advocates, eager to capitalize on the Democrats having won control of the General Assembly and the governor’s office. On the other were most insurers, who worked vigorously to sink the bill. Obama was in the middle, trying to reconcile a range of agendas to get a viable plan signed into law.

The bill originally called for a “Bipartisan Health Care Reform Commission” to implement a program reaching all 12.4 million Illinois residents. The legislation would have made it official state policy to ensure that all residents could access “quality healthcare at costs that are reasonable.” Insurers feared that language would result in a government takeover of healthcare, even though the bill did not explicitly say that.

By the time the legislation passed the Senate, in May 2004, Obama had written three successful amendments, at least one of which made key changes favorable to insurers.

Most significant, universal healthcare became merely a policy goal instead of state policy – the proposed commission, renamed the Adequate Health Care Task Force, was charged only with studying how to expand healthcare access. In the same amendment, Obama also sought to give insurers a voice in how the task force developed its plan.

For all the Obama flowery words the treacherous snake is always ‘neath the flower. The goal Obama killed then was “quality healthcare at costs that are reasonable”. What we know of current plans is that the costs will be unreasonable and that “quality” is not to be mentioned. The transfer of wealth to insurance companies with the IRS as the Chicago style fee payment enforcer terrorizing citizens on behalf of the insurance companies is the current Obama Hoped for Change.

What is now, is what was – in Illinois:

Lobbyists praised Obama for taking the insurance industry’s concerns into consideration.

“Barack is a very reasonable person who clearly recognized the various roles involved in the healthcare system,” said Phil Lackman, a lobbyist for insurance agents and brokers. Obama “understood our concern that we didn’t want a predetermined outcome.”

In one attempt at a deal, Obama approached the Campaign for Better Health Care with insurers’ concerns, asking if the group would consider a less stringent mandate than requiring the state to come up with a universal healthcare plan. The coalition decided not to bend, said Jim Duffett, the group’s executive director.

“The concept of the Health Care Justice Act was to bring the sides – the different perspectives and stakeholders – to the table,” Duffett said. “In this situation, Obama was being a conduit from the insurance industry to us.”

Obama later watered down the bill after hearing from insurers and after a legal precedent surfaced during the debate indicating that it would be unconstitutional for one legislative assembly to pass a law requiring a future legislative assembly to craft a healthcare plan.

Obama watered down strong medicine into weak sugar water. Placebo Obama pretended, with flowery words, to fight for universal health care but when the pretense is put aside, he was a lawyer for ACORN the insurance industry.

During debate on the bill on May 19, 2004, Obama portrayed himself as a conciliatory figure. He acknowledged that he had “worked diligently with the insurance industry,” as well as Republicans, to limit the legislation’s reach and noted that the bill had undergone a “complete restructuring” after industry representatives “legitimately” raised fears that it would result in a single-payer system.

Single payer advocates and public option advocates who persist in their silly Hope and Change beliefs that Obama “secretly” will fight for anything other than himself are fools beyond the reach of history lessons. Obama suckered these fools in order to advance himself and these fools still think he is on their side, “secretly” of course.

“The original presentation of the bill was the House version that we radically changed – we radically changed – and we changed in response to concerns that were raised by the insurance industry,” Obama said, according to the session transcript.

Obama himself states, according to the transcripts, that he will fight for change, including radical change -FOR THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY. History is a teacher.

Obama (remember, history is a teacher) mouthed a lot of flowery words in Illinois too which fooled the gullible then and fools the Hopium addled today:

During debate over the Health Care Justice Act, Obama also attacked the insurers, accusing the industry of “fear-mongering” by claiming, even after he made changes they wanted, that the bill would lead to a government takeover.

Still, Obama’s willingness to hear out insurers and their lobbyists is revealing given the posture he strikes today on the presidential campaign trail – that lobbyists, insurance companies, and other big-industry special interests have an outsized and polluting influence on policy-making in Washington.

Let’s repeated that sentence from 2007 because it is as valid today as it has ever been: “Obama’s willingness to hear out insurers and their lobbyists is revealing given the posture he strikes today”

Lobbyists, Big PhaRma, money men, insurance giants – Obama’s base.

In a new television ad his campaign unveiled last week, Obama says that cynics “don’t believe we can limit the power of lobbyists who block our progress, or that we can trust the American people with the truth. . . . In 20 years of public service, I’ve brought Democrats and Republicans together to solve problems that touch the lives of everyday people. I’ve taken on the drug and insurance companies and won.”

Obama has taken on the the drug and insurance companies in the same way an ACORN hooker takes on tricks.

And yet while serving in Illinois, Obama was willing to accept campaign contributions from lobbyists. Obama’s state Senate campaign committee accepted contributions from insurance companies and their lobbyists – including $1,000 from the Professional Independent Insurance Agents PAC in June 2003, and $1,000 from the Illinois Insurance PAC in December 2003 – while the Health Care Justice Act was wending its way through the Illinois General Assembly. Obama also collected money from the insurance industry and its lobbyists for his successful US Senate campaign in 2004.

Those attacking Senator Max Baucus because of the money he has taken from “special interests” will never discuss Obama taking money from “special interests”. If Max Baucus and those who take “special interest” money are suspect or corrupt why then do PINOs, Dimocrats, and Big Media not view Obama with suspicion and investigative eyes?

For us, History is a Teacher. Big Media, PINOs, and Dimocrats want to ignore history to protect their precious “media darling” Obama.

We will continue to discuss the Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss because it says more about the current health care “reform” scam than all the many legislative bills so many are urging be read. No need to read the thousands of pages in the current bills to know what will happen – history is THE guide.

For Americans History is a teacher and a guide too. Every day, as history is made anew, Americans re-learn the history we know so well, as it repeats and repeats:

Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

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246 thoughts on “The Obama Health Plan Obama Supporters Do Not Want To Discuss

  1. “Obama watered down strong medicine into weak sugar water. Placebo Obama pretended, with flowery words, to fight for universal health care but when the pretense is put aside, he was a lawyer for ACORN the insurance industry.”

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    It always comes back to this. Well said, Admin.

  2. Admin, great article (as usual)

    Time to start calling senators and congress people to protest the Baucus bill. I will not vote for any congress person that votes for this bill.

    This is travesty and debacle on the middle class, who will shoulder the burden of the proposed plan. This is just about worse than doing nothing.

  3. One more thing:

    Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

    Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

    Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

    Obama simply cannot be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted on any issue. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

  4. I am doing my best to keep up with your brilliant analysis, Admin, but I confess it is very confusing.

    Intiuitively, I KNOW bozocare is a disaster but it’s difficult to verbalize why.

    I think that the Bacchus plan was a setup to anger everyone on both sides of the aisle so much that whatever bozo presents as an alternative will be welcomed.
    I didn’t realize the extent to which his healthcare ties existed in Illinois. I didn’t think it was possible to mistrust him even more but after reading your post that’s how I feel. Jan posted an article in the previous thread about the redistribution of wealth under Bozo with a projected pricetag of $10 trillion over the next decade through help for the poor programs – I guess that includes Acorn – but the costs are spread out through 71 different programs and thousands of pages. i am more convinced than ever he wants to destroy this country.

  5. The BM commentary thet Bozo is staying above the racial fray is despicable. He has been overseeing and spearheading the race card for years. It is so obvious what he’s doing that it’s bewildering to see how it’s ignored by BM.

    Bozo’s double-edged sword – race-baiting and healthcare.

  6. LOL…Thank God!

    White House Adviser: Obama Will Not Give Another Race Speech
    Debate Over Race, Opposition to Obama Continues

    By KATE SNOW
    Sept. 17, 2009

    President Barack Obama has no plans to wade into the raging debate about race and the role it plays in an increasingly divided public discourse in America. Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett said she does not believe the president needs to give a speech about race, as he did last year. “Right now, the president is focused on health care reform,” she said, which “the people need. “The president gave an outstanding speech on race during the campaign,” Jarrett said by e-mail this morning. “People should be encouraged to re-read it.”

    The president will instead remain focused on the difficult and challenging efforts to overhaul health care, she said.

    cont. at…

    abcnews.go.com/Politics/politics-obamas-race-conservatives-divide-america/story?id=8596409

  7. “Our country is great because people can say what they think and they believe,” she added. “But I also think that they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause.”

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    I believe and think emphatically “THAT BITCH OF SPEAKER NEEDS TO TAKE REPONSIBILITY FOR THE RACIAL VENOM AND INCITEMENT THAT SHE HAS HELPED TO CAUSE”……yes ma’am you are problem!!!!!

  8. Basil,

    He should put a stop to all this racist labeling. Just as long as he doesn’t give a primetime speech to do it. His procrastination in dealing with national issues as volatile as this is par for the course.

  9. NewMexicoFan, the “treacherous snake is always ‘neath the flower” is our variation of Shakespeare.

    ” Look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent under ‘t. ”
    – Macbeth
    Act I, Scene 5

    Credit goes to Bill Shakespeare not us.

  10. Pelosi is fueling the racist debate. She pretends she is taking the high road and asking everyone to step back because…sniff…sniff…she is worried about potential violence. She should be telling her party to shut the hell up and stop finger pointing.

    If violence occurs, the dims will be right in the middle of it.

  11. admin, who are you? inquiring minds want to know.

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    # admin Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    NewMexicoFan, the “treacherous snake is always ‘neath the flower” is our variation of Shakespeare.

    ” Look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent under ‘t. ”
    – Macbeth
    Act I, Scene 5

    Credit goes to Bill Shakespeare not us.

  12. VIOLENT, now wasn’t that what OO campaign promised if he won the people vote in the primary, but the superduds did not vote for Him. In fact VIOLENCE was going on in El Paso, and at the Convention.

    So if anyone knows what violent is, I think it is the Dims. Be careful what you promise, as it just might come back to bit you.

  13. wbb-

    I posted my answer to your question:

    “The question is why would Soros fund an organization one of whose goals is to dismember the United States? One possible answer is he wants to dismember the United States.”

    with this reminder. Obama and Soros DO NOT use Triangulation. They use Dissection and Cover (smoke) to achieve their goals. (easily put as magicians tricks)

    The answer is posted as the very last post in the previous thread here:

    hillaryis44.org/2009/09/16/obamas-patriot-act-and-the-castrated-left/

  14. Obama Health Rally Today; Michelle Obama to Give Health Speech Friday

    09/17/09

    First Lady Michelle Obama on Friday will make a speech at a low-key event to bolster President Obama’s push for passage of his health care overhaul. The White House said Mrs. Obama will “amplify” the president’s message on the need for reform at an event featuring women and families impacted by the current system.

    Unlike Obama’s big public rallies to keep pressure on Congress — at the University of Maryland at College Park today and last Saturday in Minnesota — Mrs. Obama will stroll next door to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building to deliver her remarks.
    Mrs. Obama has been involved — at her own pace, in her own way — with helping Obama’s health push since June, as Daily Flotus has been reporting.

    politicsdaily.com/2009/09/17/obama-health-rally-today-michelle-obama-to-give-health-speech-f/

  15. Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Thursday, September 17, 2009

    Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 32% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8 (see trends). Thirty-five percent (35%) believe the U.S. is generally heading in the right direction and investor confidence today reached the highest level of 2009.

    Forty-four percent (44%) now favor the President’s health care plan. That’s unchanged from before the speech…and from July. Public opinion on the issue appears to be hardening. A Rasmussen video report notes that 53% of those with insurance believe they would be forced to change coverage if the proposed health care reform is approved.

    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) now disapprove. Over the past week, the President’s ratings bounced to their highest level in two months but have now retreated to earlier levels.

    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  16. http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/House_votes_to_block_ACORN_funding.html

    The House has just voted to 345-75, to cut off all federal funding to ACORN — using a procedural trick to force a vote on an amendment.

    The overwhelming majority of Democrats voted with all Republicans to ram through the measure, which follows the Senate’s passage of an amendment barring HUD from funding the community group, which specializes in social services, housing preservation and foreclosure mitigation.

    The “Defund ACORN Act,” introduced by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) would bar the federal government from doing business with the group, citing several voter registration fraud investigations. But it would also go much farther, prohibiting “any organization that shares directors, employees, or independent contractors” with ACORN from receiving federal cash.

  17. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112931363

    The House has voted to deny all federal funding for ACORN, the community-organizing group that has been caught up in several scandals.

    The House action came several days after the Senate took a similar vote to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN. The Census Bureau last week severed its ties with the group for the 2010 national head-count.

    Republicans, long critics of the liberal-leaning group that advocates for the poor, led the effort to cut off all federal funds. Some are urging the Justice Department to investigate.

    California Republican Darrell Issa, who sponsored the measure in the House, says the “scandal surrounding the criminal activities of ACORN have called into question their role in all aspects of government.”

    The vote, on a provision attached to a student aid bill, was 345-75. All 75 no votes were from Democrats.

    On Wednesday, ACORN said it was ordering an independent investigation after its employees were caught on camera appearing to advise a couple posing as a prostitute and pimp to lie about the woman’s profession to get housing help.

    The group, which came under fire from conservatives for alleged voter fraud in 2008, said it is refusing new admissions into its service programs.

  18. Bo and Mo keeo wasting our time and money as they use the Oval Office as their travel agency and entertainment center.These two are a disgrace to the Presidency.I believe they are freeloaders for themselves and the entourage of friends,relatives and the gravy train politicians that spoon feed them.
    Well said admin.The new title you have bestowed “The Fringe Media”
    I will never forgive them for their blackout of Hillary for her Four Freedoms Medal Award.This was a crime against humanity and not a word
    from BO the ego messiah whose a– she has saved.She is a true patriot.

    BY ABM91 Hillary I am sad that I have never met you in person but to me you are like a daughter I must
    help.

  19. jbstonesfan Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

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    Exactly. It’s a mockery of biased justice.

  20. admin Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

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    Now who says there can’t be bipartisanship once every century.

  21. Good news about ACORN.

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    ABM91: I am disappointed that SOS Clinton is not covered more in the news. It is quite remarkable, actually. Former SOS’s have always been in the news.

  22. Here is the list of who voted “no’ or “present”

    Democrats who voted to keep funding ACORN:

    Baldwin D WI No
    Becerra D CA No
    Brady (PA) D PA No
    Brown, Corrine D FL No
    Butterfield D NC No
    Capuano D MA No
    Carson (IN) D IN No
    Castor (FL) D FL No
    Cleaver D MO No
    Clyburn D SC No
    Crowley D NY No
    Cummings D MD No
    Davis (IL) D IL No
    DeGette D CO No
    Delahunt D MA No
    Doyle D PA No
    Edwards (MD) D MD No
    Ellison D MN No
    Engel D NY No
    Fattah D PA No
    Filner D CA No
    Fudge D OH No
    Green, Al D TX No
    Grijalva D AZ No
    Hinchey D NY No
    Hirono D HI No
    Holt D NJ No
    Honda D CA No
    Jackson (IL) D IL No
    Jackson-Lee (TX) D TX No
    Johnson, E. B. D TX No
    Kilpatrick (MI) D MI No
    Kucinich D OH No
    Larsen (WA) D WA No
    Lee (CA) D CA No
    Lewis (GA) D GA No
    Lynch D MA No
    Markey (MA) D MA No
    McCollum D MN No
    McDermott D WA No
    McGovern D MA No
    Meeks (NY) D NY No
    Mollohan D WV No
    Moore (WI) D WI No
    Moran (VA) D VA No
    Nadler (NY) D NY No
    Neal (MA) D MA No
    Olver D MA No
    Pallone D NJ No
    Pascrell D NJ No
    Payne D NJ No
    Polis (CO) D CO No
    Price (NC) D NC No
    Rahall D WV No
    Rangel D NY No
    Roybal-Allard D CA No
    Rush D IL No
    Sanchez, Linda T. D CA No
    Schakowsky D IL No
    Scott (GA) D GA No
    Scott (VA) D VA No
    Serrano D NY No
    Sherman D CA No
    Sires D NJ No
    Slaughter D NY No
    Stark D CA No
    Thompson (MS) D MS No
    Towns D NY No
    Tsongas D MA No
    Velazquez D NY No
    Waters D CA No
    Watson D CA No
    Waxman D CA No
    Wexler D FL No
    Woolsey D CA No

    Democrats voting “present”:

    Hastings (FL) D FL Present
    Watt D NC Present

    Members who did not vote:

    Abercrombie D HI Not Voting
    Clarke D NY Not Voting
    Connolly (VA) D VA Not Voting
    Costa D CA Not Voting
    Frank (MA) D MA Not Voting
    Tanner D TN Not Voting
    Barrett (SC) R SC Not Voting
    McHugh R NY Not Voting
    Nunes R CA Not Voting
    Paul R TX Not Voting
    Radanovich R CA Not Voting

  23. any statistics on how AA’s voted no/not present???

    Or better still HOW MANY AA”s voted “YES”

    and yes..they can call me racist….the BO thinking racist…if you know what I mean!!

  24. Poopsie fears violence?
    WTF? After everything she’s said and done to incite it?
    After Bo used the threat of violence and race-baiting to steal the selection?
    First it was ‘there will be blood in the streets’ if a black man was denied the dim nomination.

    Now it’s ‘there will be blood on the streets’ if anyone dares challenge much less disagree with bozo.
    Bullying, boorishness, nastiness and insolence for the past 2 years. If the American people are stupid enough to keep falling for this sh!t they deserve what they get. Unfortunately, the rest of us will have to go down with their ship unless we can wake them up.
    “I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw … I saw this myself in the late ’70s in San Francisco,” Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. “This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and … I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made.”BTW, here’s what P said. “

  25. I’ve been hearing some theories about why Gillibrand didn’t vote to cut off Acorn. Since she was appointed by Paterson, she owes him.

  26. So bambi and soros throw Acorn under the bus. Sure enough they’ve already started up a new underground dynasty to take their place.

  27. Thanks for the list Birdgal.

    Here’s more news on the victory for the good guys. We can celebrate for a moment as our efforts enter harvest time:

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/acorn-in-senates-sights-again/?hp

    Updated Both the House and the Senate on Thursday took actions aimed at ensuring that Acorn wouldn’t receive federal funds from pending bills, even when no allocation was proposed for the national community organization.

    Not satisfied with overwhelmingly winning a Senate ban on housing and transportation dollars going to the community group that is in the sights of conservatives, Senator Michael Johanns, Republican of Nebraska, on Thursday offered the same ban to a measure covering spending by the Interior Department.

    The problem, according to Senator Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat in charge of the bill, was that there is nothing in the measure that sends money to Acorn.

    “To the best of our knowledge, there is no funding in this bill for Acorn,” said Ms. Feinstein, who said her colleague’s proposal seemed a bit redundant.

    However, she said she was perfectly willing to add his language to the measure and would be happy to do so without a roll call vote, which she assumed would turn out pretty much like the 83-7 vote against Acorn on Monday. That vote came after Acorn employees were videotaped offered advice to conservative activists posing as people interested in establishing a prostitution business.

    Mr. Johanns, recognizing a political winner when he sees one, said he would want a roll call vote regardless. In fact, he insisted on it.

    “This is such an important issue,” he said. “This is an issue that people all across the country are watching the Senate floor.” He said the Senate owed it to the public “to show them how we’re going to vote on this issue.”

    The senator did say, however, that rather than forcing such a vote every time a spending bill is on the floor, he was instead assembling a proposal that would ban Acorn, which has received an estimated $53 million in federal money since 1994, from receiving any federal money whatsoever.

    In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she would leave it up to members of the Appropriations Committee to determine whether the group would be banned for what she described as unacceptable and inexcusable behavior.

    “It’s up to the Appropriations Committee to scrutinize Acorn or any other group that receives money from the federal government that has such an allegation against it,” she told reporters.

    Update: Shortly after Ms. Pelosi spoke, House Republicans successfully pushed an amendment to a college loan act to ban all federal funding for Acorn. The vote was 345-75, with all 75 votes in opposition coming from Democrats.

    At a hastily assembled news conference shortly after the vote, House Minority Leader John Boehner, flanked by three other House Republicans, said the “writing’s on the wall” for Acorn.

    He also said the vote a victory for taxpayers and called on President Obama to indicate whether he would sign a bill that would forbid Acorn from receiving federal funding.

  28. In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she would leave it up to members of the Appropriations Committee to determine whether the group would be banned for what she described as unacceptable and inexcusable behavior.
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    Why this idiot dances around this one I will never know. Unacceptable? Inexuseable?

    How about fraudulent? How about illegal?

    Oh, that is right, they are Obama supporters. Well then it’s kings X. Right Eric Holder?

  29. birdgal,
    Tell me if you think I’m nuts but there’s something strange about two waspy privileged geeks going up against some of the most ignorant poorly-educated pathetic people I’ve ever seen.

    I mean, so what. In the end, how much money does Acorn get compared to the financial wizards who have bankrupted the country.

    There’s just something sleazy about the whole thing. i hate Acorn as much as the next person but seeing these idiots hung out to dry when you know the big fish won’t get caught . . . more smoke and mirrors, I fear. A safe target for everyone to go after while letting the real culprit slip through the net.

  30. NMF,

    If only.

    🙁

    Bbozo will get away with this just like he gets away with everything else. Disposable politics – use and toss – the story of his life.

    It’s disgusting.

  31. I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw … I saw this myself in the late ’70s in San Francisco,” Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. “This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and … I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made.”BTW, here’s what P said. “
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    Then why did this fool open her mouth in the first place and start calling people Nazis. Here little off Broadway act billed as a tragedy is really a comedy, better still a farce.

  32. In the meantime, bozo turns his back on eastern Europe.

    Where’s the outrage about that?

    His is a scorched earth policy – incinerate as much of America as possible (figuratively speaking) and leave nothing behind to let the people rebuild.

  33. I am back from lunch. So the women who strong armed everyone at the convention, and threatened people is now upset about the violence she sees against the people who used violence to get a nomination they should have never had.

    When you start the violence, you should expect the actions to result.

    I guess lunch did not help much.

  34. Bbozo will get away with this just like he gets away with everything else. Disposable politics – use and toss – the story of his life.

    It’s disgusting.
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    Basil: don’t get discouraged. The chickens are coming home to roost on Mr. Obama.

  35. basil9 Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
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    No, you’re not nuts. It is amazing that when the House wants to get something done, it can happen very quickly. We all have our tinfoil hats on at times. 🙂

  36. wwboei,
    What’s going on is so friggin’ surreal.
    Did you SEE the clip? She looks positively DERANGED!
    (Like the pic of bozo on Drudge the other day.)
    Meanwhile, bozo sits in his palace, stoking the flames, careful not to leave any evidence, letting his lackeys do all the heavy lifting for him and when they break under the strain to the bottom of the bus they go.

  37. “Then why did this fool open her mouth in the first place and start calling people Nazis. Here little off Broadway act billed as a tragedy is really a comedy, better still a farce.”

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    pot calling the kettle….

  38. wbboei,

    I HOPE you’re right but I fear you’re not.

    Has your Cuban friend offered any more insight?
    Do you have a scenario in mind about how the bozo falls that you might share with us?
    Yes, I am in need of inspiration.

  39. NMF,

    hehehehehe.

    I’ve read that on other blogs.
    Did you SEE her? She had that wild blinking startled eye thing going and her mouth – i don’t know if it’s the botox but her bottom lip kept flopping down and her lips looked rubbery, like she couldn’t control them.
    She reminded me of Meryl Streep in Death becomes Her.

  40. At least someone is standing up to sna fran nan.
    Pete Sessions, texas, said;
    “The Speaker is now likening genuine opposition to assassination. Such insulting rhetoric not only undermines the credibility of her office, but it underscores the desperate attempt by her party to divert attention away from a failing agenda,” Sessions said in a statement. “During one of the most important policy debates of our time, the American people have been completely abandoned by those elected representatives under her control. Voters are justifiably frustrated with Washington, and the Speaker’s verbal assault on voters accomplishes nothing other than furthering her reputation for being wildly out of touch with the American people.”

    Rep. Pete Sessions (Texas), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said Pelosi crossed the line when she related the rhetoric of anti-gay protesters in San Francisco in 1978 — the year Harvey Milk, the first openly gay member of the city’s board of supervisors, and his political ally, Mayor George Moscone, were killed by former supervisor Dan White — to that of contemporary conservatives while answering a question about the protests against President Obama’s health-care proposals.

    “The Speaker is now likening genuine opposition to assassination. Such insulting rhetoric not only undermines the credibility of her office, but it underscores the desperate attempt by her party to divert attention away from a failing agenda,” Sessions said in a statement. “During one of the most important policy debates of our time, the American people have been completely abandoned by those elected representatives under her control. Voters are justifiably frustrated with Washington, and the Speaker’s verbal assault on voters accomplishes nothing other than furthering her reputation for being wildly out of touch with the American people.”

  41. Wbboei,

    C’mon. Give it a shot. Can we get rid of him before 2012? Is he gonna last another 3 and a half years? If not, what will bring him down?

    You have a great imagination, wbboei. Tell us a story.

  42. Obama’s climbdown is likely to be seen by Russia as a victory for its uncompromising stance.
    ————————-
    That is what he is teaching to world. When you are weak like he is you are the word’s oyster.

  43. I didn’t like the Bush boondoggle in Poland. I’m glad it’s dead.

    This health plan looks like the MA fiasco. Admin, what do you think the chances are of this limp d*ck PO passing all the progs are hanging their hat on, and seemingly are willing to support any bill, as long as it is in there? Hill ran on a massive Medicare-like program for all takers. I don’t think the PO in current leg is anything but smoke and mirrors, but do you expect it to be in the final bill?

  44. Basil–I am supposed to being a book review for a friend of mine. I have no time to be telling stories. However, if you ever saw a show called Tales of the Crypt there is a malevolent half human creature who acts as the announcer, and he she it reminds me of pelosi. I think she is doing a dance of the macabe on this race issue.

  45. # JanH Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Now there’s the rub. Will he sign it? Does he even have a choice?

    can you say “signing statement”?…Bush was famous for ’em, bo continues the practice…

  46. Wbboei-

    Honored to receive your email, unfortunately the attachment didn’t come through. I would have been very interested in the contents.

  47. Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

    The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors’ own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

    It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration’s claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors’ positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

  48. MOP,

    I’ve read about that. In another survey 65% of doctors polled said they opposed the BO plan and 45% said they would shut down their practice if it passes.

    Where I live there is a real shortage of doctors, It’s a big problem, especially for the elderly. If the BO plan goes through I don’t know where a lot of these people would go. It would affect me, too, but I could always drive up to Albany. But some of the senior citizens who live up in the mountains would have a hard time getting medical care if the few doctors in this area were to leave.

  49. September 17, 2009
    Categories: Hillary Clinton

    Polish PM wouldn’t take U.S. calls

    Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk confirmed today that he declined last night to take a call from the U.S. informing him of the decision to scrap planned missile-defense bases in his country.

    Two U.S.-based sources close to the Polish government said Thursday that Tusk also rejected a call from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — on the grounds that, as the head of the government, he should speak to the president.

    “Hillary called — and the reason he turned it down was because of protocol,” said a source.

    Questions about the exchanges surfaced in the Polish press after Obama reached the Czech prime minister late last night to warn of the policy change, but did not speak to the Pole until this morning. And the static offers a glimpse at the distress beneath the diplomatic facade being offered by Eastern European leaders.

    Polish Radio reports today that Tusk confirmed an earlier press report that he hadn’t taken Obama’s call but denied it was due to “technical difficulties.”

    Tusk said he declined to speak with President Obama during the night because he wanted to “properly prepare for the discussion.”

    A Polish Embassy spokesman noted that Tusk ultimately spoke to Obama, while Clinton spoke to the country’s foreign minister. A State Department spokesman didn’t respond to an email seeking comment on the episode.

    The Polish preparation may have paid off however: They are reportedly angling for an American commitment of Patriot missile systems based in Poland, which Poles see, like the larger missile-defense bases, as a partial guarantee against Russian agression (despite American denials that the defenses are aimed at Russia).

    “I would not describe what is going on today as a defeat for Poland,” Tusk told reporters in Warsaw, according to the AP, saying Obama had signaled that “Poland has a chance to win an exclusive position” in the new system.

    politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/Polish_PM_wouldnt_take_US_calls.html?showall

  50. Baucus bill booed at Obama health rally
    By Sam Youngman – 09/17/09 12:52 PM ET

    President Obama’s mention of Sen. Max Baucus’s healthcare proposal drew boos Thursday at a healthcare rally at the University of Maryland.

    By contrast, the left-leaning crowd cheered Obama when he endorseed a public health insurance option, which is considered a core provision for liberal lawmakers but is absent from Baucus’s (D-Mont.) proposal.
    The president’s speech in College Park, Md., was part of a return to campaign mode aimed at his attempts to drum up support for his embattled healthcare proposal.

    Baucus, a centrist and chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, unveiled his bill Wednesday. He had been working behind the scenes for months with a group of three Republicans and two Democrats in an attempt to craft a bipartisan measure. But Republicans and liberal Democrats criticized the legislation upon its release, and the White House was largely noncommittal.

    Obama did not endorse Baucus’s bill at the rally. But he assailed critics of his broader goal, threatening those who mischaracterize his plans that he will “call them out.”

    “I’ve heard a lot of Republicans say they want to kill ‘ObamaCare,'” Obama said. “Some even raise money off of it.”

    By the end of the rally, the president had brought the crowd firmly back to his side, leading them in the now-familiar chants of “Fired up, ready to go.”

    Earlier Thursday, the White House formally announced that the president had directed Health and Human Service Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to begin offering $25 million in grants for demonstration projects to find ways to improve patient safety while limiting medical malpractice suits.

    “I don’t think this is a silver bullet, but I want to explore the idea,” Obama said in Maryland.

    The move, announced during the president’s joint address to Congress last week, was largely viewed as an olive branch to Republicans who have long faulted frivolous lawsuits for raising the cost of insurance.

    Trial lawyers, one of the most reliable Democratic donor bases, have long fought attempts at tort reform on Capitol Hill, but Sebelius said that the president is not trying to use the outreach as “a lever” in the healthcare debate.

    Sebelius told reporters earlier Thursday that the launch of the demonstration projects can track with legislative language that explores ways to limit malpractice suits, and the president’s directive “captures some of the legislative intent and jumpstarts it.”

    “I don’t think this is an either-or,” she said. “I see this as very complementary to some of the proposals on the table.”

    thehill.com/homenews/administration/59245-baucus-bill-booed-at-healthcare-rally

  51. I know at different times we have all discussed different aspects of the racism and race card the dems and MSM have not only created but drummed into the air for the sake of O’s benefit…for the purpose to divide, marginalize and conquer…

    …fast forward now to Pelosi and Hoyer actually writing an article calling americans ‘unamerican’ for exercising their right to free speech, free will to peacefully protest and express their own opinions…and now bordering on comparing independent thinkers to assassins…

    …really makes you wonder what happened to “I might disagree with you but I will fight for your right to express yourself” gone!…now, it is ‘shut up, you racist”

    we have heard certain democratic representatives and senators and former democratic presidents all come out and BLATANTLY reinforce the ‘racism’ BS…and then we have heard the predicable MSM produce segment after segment strumming the tune and drumming the drums about anyone opposing O as being a racist – CNN – MSNBC – NYT, WP, – all of them all of the time…

    …and it got me thinking back to the primaries…I remember listening to a discussion with the always rabid Tim Russert and hyperventilating Chris Matthews about how racist Bill Clinton was and having guest upon guest on to reinforce and discuss in detail how racist Bill’s remarks supposedly were…this was all around the time of the pending South Carolina primary…

    …and right about that time I remember writing a letter to Russert and Matthews combined saying that if anything happened to either Bill Clinton or O, they would both have the blood on their hands for purposely driving and exacerbating all the racism emotion that were pushing on the air…

    …that the two of them were helping to create a dangerous atmosphere that could lead to problems or violence…they seemed to almost be willing that some kind of trouble would manifest…during that time, Bill could not sneeze without being labeled a racist by the whole clan, Roland Martin, Clyburn, ER, Dyson, and the rest of them…all over tv all of the time…all kinds of airtime and print given to creating the notion that not only Bill, but Gerry Ferraro, Ed Rendell, and all Hillary supporters were racists

    …and it just brings me right back to the present…how the media now it content to say that, “no, they never really thought Bill was a racist” BUT now they use the very same tactics to continue to provoke and CREATE an atmosphere where no racism exists but they seek to use the tactic anyway, regardless of the consequences…

    …as if they want to deny any opposition any way they can…

    …so cynical…so programmed…so diabolical…frankly, really so unamerican…

    …one cannot be flipping thru the channels and not fall upon CNN or MSNBC when predictably they are talking about racism (Oh, come on, not again, yes again) with a panel full of guests that are all reinforcing the racism (if there is no racism, they will be sure to make you believe there is- what’s wrong with you?)…and then we all know the drill, those same guests, whether they be a Joe Klien, or whomever, then go on to write an article about it to further coordinate and reinforce the meme…

    …all designed to stifle, marginalize and divide the country…we are going backwards…how many black and/or caucasian friends do you have that are surprised to hear how racist we all are? (yes, there is real racism) to hear the MSM and democrats explain it, they are here to tell us that people you thought you were friends with or you admire…well, that’s wrong…because they are here to remind you that you are really a racist…

    the democratic party is taking us backwards…undoing all the gentle weaving that has naturally been taking place in all kinds of positive directions…the dims and the MSM seek to splinter or crack and halt where we are and take us backwards…

    backwards like Nancy pelosi said herself today to the 70’s and beyond…when we have moved so much further ahead…I have never been so disappointed in the cynism of the democratic party in my whole life…so fake and manipulative…

  52. JanH Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    So bambi and soros throw Acorn under the bus. Sure enough they’ve already started up a new underground dynasty to take their place.

    ******************

    You bet they are re-organizing yesterday.
    **********************
    “I would not describe what is going on today as a defeat for Poland,” Tusk told reporters in Warsaw, according to the AP, saying Obama had signaled that “Poland has a chance to win an exclusive position” in the new system.

    ***********************

    What it this, American Idol? Insulting. we can not get this guy out quick enough. he is so dangerous to the World. You know Russia will roll into the satellite’ and h is forcing Israel to be the bad guy. The deaths will be on his head

  53. Rumor has it that obama cancelled the missile shield, not because of the cost, but because he is hoping that in exchange the Russians will agree to sanctions against Iran.

    Just today Russia stated that they would not accept any new sanctions against Iran.

    Interesting…

  54. It just dawned on me . . .
    of course BO wouldn’t support competition or free markets.
    He’s never competed (fairly) for anything in his life.
    And based on the little we know about his background, he was complaining about racism when he was in high school in Hawaii.
    One of his friends said BO charged racism was the reason he hadn’t made the basketball team but the kid’s father said, “No, Barry. it’s because you missed two shots.”
    Ever since then it seems he’s been obsessed with getting as much as he could doing as little as possible to earn it and crying racist whenever things didn’t go his way. how pathetic a person like this is in the WH.

  55. Jan,

    He’s a lying POS.

    He doesn’t gave a sh!T about what happens in any white-skinned majority area of the world. Period. That includes all of Europe, Israel and the US.

  56. Realist: if you have my email address then send me yours and I will send the attachments to you directly.

    Jbstonesfan: same message if attachments did not arrive.

  57. from BP
    ************

    washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-helps-strengthen-General-Electric-Putin-ties-59644627.html

    09/17/09 2:06 PM EDT
    Reuters reports an interesting nugget in the wake of President Barack Obama’s decision to grant Vladimir Putin his wish and kill the Eastern European missile shield:

    Shortly after the pullback on the shield programme was announced, Russia’s government said Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would meet several U.S. executives on Friday from firms including General Electric, Morgan Stanley as well as TPG, one of the world’s largest private equity firms

    General Electric may be the company with the closest ties to the Obama administration (if not, GE is second only to Goldman Sachs), and here we see the company benefiting from an abrupt foreign policy change made by President Obama. But GE isn’t the only company benefiting. Reuters paints the broader picture:

    “U.S. companies have arguably lost out to some European companies in joint ventures, and better diplomacy will likely improve the chances for investors in the strategic sectors of the Russian economy,” said Carlo Gallo, senior Russia analyst at London-based consultancy Control Risks.

    GE CEO Jeff Immelt sits on Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, and GE owns MSNBC, the network famously friendly to Obama.

    Comments are good at link also.

  58. basil,

    He’s certainly gaining a wonderful reputation for making friends with evil dynasties. Good luck to him with that.

    As far as Pelosi goes, maybe she should stop her name-calling, i.e. Nazis and unAmericans if she expects others to do the same. She started all this.

  59. President Obama’s mention of Sen. Max Baucus’s healthcare proposal drew boos Thursday at a healthcare rally at the University of Maryland.

    By contrast, the left-leaning crowd cheered Obama when he endorseed a public health insurance option, which is considered a core provision for liberal lawmakers but is absent from Baucus’s (D-Mont.) proposal.
    The president’s speech in College Park, Md., was part of a return to campaign mode aimed at his attempts to drum up support for his embattled healthcare proposal.
    —————————————
    Will they boo Mr. Obama when he fails to deliver a viable public option? He could use the nuclear option to do it? Has he got the balls to do it? Well, we know the answer to that one. At some point, he will either cheat the progessives or his contributors. We know the answer to that one as well. No surprise in this cracker jack box.

  60. they will be doing this in CA soon. The farmers are dying there. Gov won’t give them water.
    *********************************from BP

    omg!

    I just read the belfgian cow farmers are watering their farms with milk, b/c the prices of milk have plummeted there.. and they are trying to bring up demand.

    ssmith // September 17, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    1.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SrHCdMvFLlI/AAAAAAAAG5A/IdUjw2ye_rQ/s1600-h/milk+protest.png

    the picture.. farmers watering their farms with milk

  61. S,
    Excellent rant.
    It’s despicable the way the BM shills who have mostly grown up and lived in lily-white privileged areas infiltrated by the occasional acceptable person of color and never rubbing elbows with the real people, either white and black, have the gall to pass judgment on something they haven’t got a clue about, have never experienced and will never understand.
    It’s one big group jerk-off session. It’s self-indulgent, narcissistic and psychopathic. Just like BO.
    m

  62. Interesting, i did not listen as I was @ work…also BP
    ****************************

    hannity on the radio and he’s urging hillary to quit the administration after tehPrick failed to go forward with arms defense shields in poland/europe. he’s telling hillary to quit now before she is blamed!

  63. Rumor has it that obama cancelled the missile shield, not because of the cost, but because he is hoping that in exchange the Russians will agree to sanctions against Iran.

    Just today Russia stated that they would not accept any new sanctions against Iran.
    ————————
    GE has its hooks so far into Mr. Obama that he is their vampire. For them he throws constituents and allies alike under the bus. It turns my stomach to watch him operate.

  64. Will they boo Mr. Obama when he fails to deliver a viable public option? He could use the nuclear option to do it? Has he got the balls to do it? Well, we know the answer to that one. At some point, he will either cheat the progessives or his contributors. We know the answer to that one as well. No surprise in this cracker jack box.
    ———————————————————————————————————

    He doesn’t have the political courage to do it. A public option is going to have to come from the Congress and the people demanding it.

  65. Oh wait. He still doesn’t care about Hillary. He’s just announcing that he is going to start blaming her for one more thing that has gone wrong in his stupid little world.

  66. birdgal:Hillary is the only strength that we have that can keep our country out of harms way as Obama has no idea how to run a Koolaide let alone a country.He must be so insanely jealous about her worldwide respect and adoration while he is looked upon as a world threat.He has no expertise on any subject and could
    start WWIII.at anytime.The Fringe Media made him and now they have to figure out how to get rid of him or live
    with him as they allgo down the chute
    together.

    By ABM91 I believe that Hillary will make her move when we rise up and demand his resignation or impeacment
    for love of country.

  67. She started all this.

    I disagree. BO started the whole thing. (see my post at 7:14.) It’s been his modus operandi since he was a teenager.

    But he’s slick enough and evil enough to divert the blame to everyone else and if those designated to shield him from incrimination fail under the bus they go and he appoints a new lackey to assume the position.
    It is seriously demented. We have a sociopathic madman in the WH.

  68. JanH Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    Oh wait. He still doesn’t care about Hillary. He’s just announcing that he is going to start blaming her for one more thing that has gone wrong in his stupid little world.

    —————————————————————————

    She isn’t the boss, BO is the president.

  69. Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2009

    Now Bill Cosby weighs in on Carter’s side of race issue

    Comedian Bill Cosby has gotten a lot of praise on the right for his fairly conservative take on race and racial relations in the U.S. recently. And he hasn’t been afraid to take on President Obama on those issues, either; after Obama said police had acted “stupidly” in arresting Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., Cosby said he was “shocked.”

    Conservatives aren’t likely to enjoy Cosby’s latest statement about race quite so much. On his Facebook page, the comedian had this to say about former President Carter’s allegation that racism is behind much of the animosity towards Obama, and about Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C.:

    I agree with President Carter that racism is playing a role in recent outbursts against President Obama. During President Obama’s speech on the status of health care reform, some members of congress engaged in a public display of disrespect. While one Representative hurled the now infamous “you lie” insult at the President, others made their lack of interest known by exhibiting rude behavior such as deliberately yawning and sending text messages ….

    Various polls prior to the election indicated that between five and ten percent of Americans would never vote for an African American president. That number, of course, only includes those who actually admitted to their prejudice. How many others harbored such feelings but did not respond honestly when asked the question? And how many people oppose Obama’s plan because the President is African American?

    In “Birth of a Nation,” D.W. Griffith used white actors in black face to portray black legislators as having low intelligence and acting like fools. Today, we have a band of real life congressional fools seemingly bent on blocking any meaningful reform of the health care system. But if we allow even one American to die simply because he or she cannot afford treatment, we are creating a shameful scenario that could aptly be called “Death of a Nation.”

    salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/16/cosby_race/

  70. birdgal, I agree. He does not intend to make a tough decision like that, that can be blamed on him. He intends to vote present, or get the congressional types to send him legislation that he will say he Has to Sign.

    However, I don’t think that will sell well with the Insurance companies, who might start asking for their money back. Tough position for a rookie to be in.

  71. hannity on the radio and he’s urging hillary to quit the administration after tehPrick failed to go forward with arms defense shields in poland/europe. he’s telling hillary to quit now before she is blamed!
    ——————————————–
    He happens to be right. But I see no reason why she should listen to him. He has done her no favors over the years.

    If I believed Obama was pursuing US vital interests when he reneged on the promise to provide a shield I would not be as livid with him as I am. If he extracted a binding commitment from Russia to interve with Iran I might disagree with the merits of the deal, but I would at least have some assurance that he was acting in our interests. But abandoning ou allies so GE can do business with Russia is too much like pursuing cap and trade so GE can benefit, or doing health insurance reform so GE equipment subsidiary can thrive, or not supporting the uprising in Iran because GE is doing business over there. He represents big business not us. It is just that simple. However, the soros piece is the real story.

  72. I am hearing that the Bachus bill was floated because the WH knew no one would like it, then they will put in their public option after it fails as the only alternative. Really? How people will support that is beyond me, but then they don’t give a shit what we think, hell they didn’t even know 1.2 million people were protesting in their street’s!
    ***************************8

    KARL ROVE

    wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574416963495232516.html

    On Friday, I was at DePauw University in Indiana debating former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean. It was two days after Barack Obama’s big speech before a joint session of Congress and Mr. Dean is a strong advocate for his party’s agenda and a medical doctor, so I expected him to defend the president’s idea of adding a “trigger” to health-care reform to ease its passage and thereby guarantee a government takeover of our health-care system.

    But Mr. Dean turned out to be tougher on triggers than I was. He called them a “terrible” idea.

    It’s now becoming clear that Mr. Obama’s speech failed to rally voters and failed to inspire Democrats to follow their president’s lead. And while the fissures are small now (Mr. Dean’s worry seems to be that triggers would give too much away to Republicans), they will likely widen unless the president shows that his policies will do what his campaign did–expand the pool of voters in favor of Democrats.

    That’s not happening now. A Gallup poll this week found that 38% of Americans say their representative should vote for ObamaCare–40% want their member to vote against it. It was 37%-39% on the same question the day before Mr. Obama spoke.

    Part of Mr. Obama’s problem is his language. His speech contained little new information and his tone was unpresidential. Instead of binding Americans to his cause, he called legitimate concerns “misinformation,” “false,” “demagoguery,” “distortion” or “tall tales.” Earlier in the week he declared them “lies.” This was like calling people with concerns stupid, and it’s not the way to win them over.

    Take the issue of illegal aliens. The president’s assertion that his reform “would not apply to those who are here illegally” drew an angry eruption from a GOP House backbencher. Then late Friday night, the White House quietly announced that proof of citizenship would be required to enroll in the president’s health plan. This closed the loophole that provoked Rep. Joe Wilson. Had Mr. Obama acknowledged the concern and offered a solution in his speech, he would have come across as reasonable.

    Mr. Obama is forgetting that the political landscape can change when the pool of people who vote changes. In 2008, five million more people voted than in 2004. Mr. Obama drew two million more African-Americans to the polls. He also shifted support among younger voters (ages 18-24) from 54% Democratic, 45% Republican in 2004 to 66% Democratic, 32% Republican.

    Today, Mr. Obama’s approval among young voters is down 10 points since July, according to Gallup polls. It may drop more when those voters discover that the plan put out by Sen. Max Baucus (D., Mont.) this week would fine them up to $950 a year for not being insured. Young people are 9.9% of the population. Fining them only antagonizes them.

    Fiscally conservative independents who were already upset with Mr. Obama’s stimulus spending will only be more upset with his health-care plan. It starts running annual deficits in its third year, piles up $219 billion in deficits in its first decade, and could add $1 trillion to the debt in its second.

    Last weekend’s grassroots rally against ObamaCare in Washington was a sign that voters are getting active to oppose the president’s agenda. If it keeps up, middle-class anxiety about the national debt could make 2010 a tough year for any Democrat up for re-election.

    Those Democrats will soon notice that seniors are worried about Mr. Obama’s proposed Medicare cuts and that Hispanics–the fastest growing part of the electorate–are slipping away from the president. Gallup polls reveal his support among Hispanics fell 14 points to 67% over the summer. Mr. Obama may be changing the electorate for 2010, but in the wrong direction for his party. This has worried many of the 70 Democrats in congressional districts carried by George W. Bush or John McCain.

    Pennsylvania Rep. Jason Altmire’s district went 55% for Mr. McCain last year. After Mr. Obama’s speech, he called the House bill “flawed” and said, “We can do better.” Ohio Rep. John Boccieri, whose district favored Mr. McCain 50%-48%, told reporters, “I don’t believe the president has shifted any of my opinions.” Alabama Rep. Parker Griffith, whose district gave Mr. McCain 61% of its vote, called for health-care reform “without expanding government or adding more debt to an already overburdened treasury.”

    And it’s not only Democrats in red districts who are questioning the president. California Reps. Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa followed the speech by saying it hadn’t swayed them. Mr. Obama carried their districts with 60% of the vote. Reps. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri and Artur Davis of Alabama, both African-Americans, voiced similar sentiments.

    Mr. Obama will appear on five news shows on Sunday. His time might be better spent praying for more public support.

  73. JanH Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
    **********************

    Obama is “family”- the Hood is thicker than sanity

  74. What I was told today is that China has officially stopped buying our treasury bills. I know they failed to show up at a recent auction, but I have not been able to confirm that they have taken a position to that effect. If so, big media is hiding that fact from us.

    I was then told that as a result of that development the United States is issuing 3 day paper to the public at option, and is turning around and buying that paper with money it is now printing. This will lead to hyperinflation if it is true.

    This came from someone I trust. But I would not rely on it unless it can be corroborated. Has anyone heard that China has adopted a policy of not buying our t bills?

  75. Mr. Obama will appear on five news shows on Sunday. His time might be better spent praying for more public support.

    —————————————————————————————–

    Maybe, spending some quality work time in the oval office, instead of posing for interviews, would be more helpful

  76. But Mr. Dean turned out to be tougher on triggers than I was. He called them a “terrible” idea.
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    Dean has a pathological hatred for Rham Emanuel who has snubbed him and marginalized him and turned him into a nobody who most people have forgotten.

    You will be happy to know that I have not forgotten Mr. Dean. Let us hope we meet some day so I can ask him why he committed treason. Benedict Arnold’s reasons are understandable whereas Dean’s are not.

  77. Mr. Obama will appear on five news shows on Sunday. His time might be better spent praying for more public support.
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    He will panic if this full court press fails to move the needle. He is a one trick pony. I predict a 2 day bump and then a further slide. There is no deal he can make here that will satisfy or mollify his constituents and his contributors. He will have to create a distraction.

  78. gonzo,

    I think that the Bacchus plan was a setup to anger everyone on both sides of the aisle so much that whatever bozo presents as an alternative will be welcomed.

    I think one of the reasons for the increased opposition to BO policy is that over the past year most Americans have had to cut expenses, tighten their belts and become more frugal. Seeing the BO spending like a drunken sailor is not sitting well with the rest of us.

  79. ‘He will have to create a distraction.’

    Isn’t that really what the Acorn thing is about?
    And the race-baiting?
    And prying Carter out of the crypt?
    And egging the black congressional caucus and the white guilt libs into demonizing anyone who doesn’t agree with bo’s policies?

  80. I forgot to mention–the trigger idea which dean says he hates because it would give too much away to the Republicans is the brainchild of Emanel and it is his attempt to get himself and Bambi off the hook with progresssives while honoring the commitments he made to big pharma, health insurers that there would not be a public option. Dean is really trashing Emanuel here, although he does believe in the public option as well.

  81. Baucus is a vile person:

    “Although he failed in his monthslong quest to get Republican backing for his bill and now faces a host of Democratic concerns, Baucus defended his efforts Thursday.

    “I don’t think there will be any changes in the core provisions of the bill,” Baucus said.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_taxes

  82. But Hillary has the ultimate get out of jail card, counsellors. She serves the potus. He won. She didn’t.
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    I know Jan. You think it works and she does to. However, the people I talk to who are conservative democrats, progressives, republicans think otherwise. If he goes down hard, no member of that administration will be viable. I share that opinion. However, I spoke today with my friend he professor and she sees a desperate economic situation looming on the horizon, does not think Obama will make it to 2012, and believes people will turn to Hillary because she is the only competent elected official available. I told he big media will never ever let that happen, and she said the leadership of big media is changing. She added that we are in a real transition period now and an internet army is out there now digging for the truth, and people like Brian Williams look like pathetic anachronisms. On that point we were able to agree.

  83. Kerry, who originally proposed the idea of taxing the high-value plans, said he would offer an amendment next week to raise the value of the plans being taxed to $24,000 for a family plan and $9,800 for an individual plan. He said this would make a difference in exempting some union plans and focusing the tax on wealthier workers.

    from the same article listed above at 8 p.m
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    Kerry is out touch. In the HMO that I work for all union workers receive the same benefits, whether one is a pharmacist, RN, LVN, Housekeeper, Lab Tech, Radiology Tech, Nurse Practitioner, etc,. etc. The MDs do have more complete coverage, but everyone else, has the same medical coverage. Kerry is a dolt, if he thinks, 9.800 will be less difficult for lesser paid union employees.

  84. men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2009/09/secret-history.html

    The Bill Clinton Tapes
    A Q&A with Taylor Branch, author of ‘The Clinton Tapes’

    …interesting…

  85. wbboei Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

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    That makes a lot of sense. I hope your friend is right.

  86. wbboei, 7:39 What is going on with China not buying anymore treasury bills is what Ive been saying all along. If you read the post I posted on 9/15, you will see this is what happened to all countries that lost their currency. This is what Soros is doing!!!The shock doctrine.

  87. Howard Dean Blasts Baucus Healthcare Bill
    September 16, 2009 05:51 PM ET | Paul Bedard, Nikki Schwab | Permanent Link | Print
    By Nikki Schwab, Washington Whispers

    Howard Dean, former Democratic National Committee chairman, minced no words about Sen. Max Baucus’s healthcare proposal, unveiled to the public this morning. “The Baucus bill is the worst piece of healthcare legislation I’ve seen in 30 years,” Dean said last night at a healthcare town hall and book signing in Washington. “In fact, it’s a $60 billion giveaway to the health insurance industry every year,” he said. “It was written by healthcare lobbyists, so that’s not a surprise. It’s an outrage.”

    The Baucus bill leaves out some of the president’s goals for healthcare reform, such as the controversial public option. While more palatable to Senate moderates, the Baucus proposal also drew criticism from Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat from West Virginia, who said yesterday he would not vote for it in its current form. “I’m glad Senator Rockefeller is not going to vote for it. I wouldn’t vote for it at all under any circumstances,” Dean added. Instead, Dean said Senate Democrats should and would end up using the reconciliation process to pass a plan with the public option. “It can be done, and that’s how it will be done,” Dean said, pointing out that a majority of Senate Democrats still support a more robust bill.

    usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/09/16/howard-dean-blasts-baucus-healthcare-bill.html

  88. Gonzotex, @7:20pm. Your post is quiet revealing. If you want more information of this go to the CFR website and click on Brazillian upcoming economy and see what their contribution to the world will be shortly, Chicken, Milk and food. You must remember that Soros has decided to back this country with our (taxpayers) money. OBama just sent 2billions for oil exploration in Brazil. He has also bought many stocks in that oil company.

  89. Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) now disapprove. Over the past week, the President’s ratings bounced to their highest level in two months but have now retreated to earlier levels.

    OMG….I fear that TOTus will now appear more often to boost his ratings…

    I’ve been hearing some theories about why Gillibrand didn’t vote to cut off Acorn. Since she was appointed by Paterson, she owes him.

    inexcusable…I intend to let her know

  90. Carol, Those are still dismall numbers considering the corruption that is going on. You have to wonder what the heck people are thinking?? Do they really have their heads that far into the sand?? OMG, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figue that Obama is here to make America fall. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the rethugs are in on it!! WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!

  91. Obama’s stopping the missile shield, WTF, is he doing it for, apparently he doesn’t think IRan is able to do anything?? Read this:
    Hosted by Back to Google NewsAP NewsBreak: Nuke agency says Iran can make bomb
    (AP) – 8 hours ago

    VIENNA — Experts at the world’s top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.

    The document drafted by senior officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency is the clearest indication yet that the agency’s leaders share Washington’s views on Iran’s weapon-making capabilities.

    It appears to be the so-called “secret annex” on Iran’s nuclear program that Washington says is being withheld by the IAEA’s chief.

    The document says Iran has “sufficient information” to build a bomb. It says Iran is likely to

  92. IMHO-If Obama is halting plans for the missile shield in Poland then he has to have made a deal with Russia to put the brakes on Iran as a proxy control in tandem with the US.

  93. # pm317 Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I just read in a comment at NQ, GE is meeting with Putin. Now you know why no missile shield.

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    What does GE have to do with the missile shield?

  94. Mrs. Smith, Putin didn’t want the missile shield and GE gets something in return, I don’t know what but that is irrelevant.
    mj, you may be right. But it it the back story of GE.

  95. # mj Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    There will still be missle shield in Europe, just not the Bush boondoggle. He’s right on this one.

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    Whereabouts?

  96. pm317 Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Mrs. Smith, Putin didn’t want the missile shield and GE gets something in return, I don’t know what but that is irrelevant.

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    Do I have this right? Because GE is meeting with Putin, now we know why there is no missile shield?
    Do you have a link to the person saying this?

  97. There will still be missle shield in Europe, just not the Bush boondoggle. He’s right on this one.
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    Do you have a link showing that there will be a missile shield in Europe on a date certain that will protect Poland and Czechoslovakia, because that is the first I have heard of it?

  98. pm317 Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

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    Call us spoiled if you want to… because of the hi quality research that goes on at Big Pink.

    Rumor is one thing, justified speculation is another, facts are king.

    I can live with the latter two but have a hard time giving rumors much credence.

  99. I’m trying to remember where, but it seems to me I read a while back that an alternative missile shield site was in the Middle East. Israel has stated that it isn’t ready for one though.

  100. Does He Lie?

    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, September 18, 2009

    You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn’t lie. He’s too subtle for that. He . . . well, you judge.

    Herewith three examples within a single speech — the now-famous Obama-Wilson “you lie” address to Congress on health care — of Obama’s relationship with truth.

    (1) “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future,” he solemnly pledged. “I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period.”

    Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama’s very next sentence: “And to prove that I’m serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don’t materialize.”

    This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there’s absolutely nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not. Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.

    Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. “Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?”

    (2) And then there’s the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.

    But more important, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we’d have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it’s illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don’t voluntarily turn themselves in.

    When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson’s “You lie!” shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem?

    (3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating “hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud” from Medicare.

    That’s not a lie. That’s not even deception. That’s just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse — Meg Greenfield once called this phrase “the dread big three” — as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.

    Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health-care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare overspending is breaking the budget, why hasn’t he gotten started on the painless billions in “waste and fraud” savings?

    Obama doesn’t lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health-care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things — energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel’s Law — a crisis is a terrible thing to waste — failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.

    So on to the next gambit: selling health-care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office’s demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform — until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.

    Obama doesn’t lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads — so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.

    Slickness wasn’t fatal to “Slick Willie” Clinton because he possessed a winning, nearly irresistible charm. Obama’s persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703329.html

  101. pm317: my question was addressed to mj, because it does make a difference from a strategic standpoint if those two former soviet republics are protected from nuclear attack. If there is a residual system then the right wing criticisms are subject to question, but if Obamas decision leaves them naked before their enemy then it advances Putins agenda to put them under his control.

  102. By not going ahead with the original missile system, Obama made it clear that he has been duped by Putin who seeks world wide domination by Russia once again. Russia will not stop Iran , and in fact, will supply them with SA 300 anti-missile system which can engage over 100 planes, contest 12 at a time, and hit at up to 90k feet, rendering an Israeli air strike next to impossible. It is incredible what this man is doing to our country in a mere 8 months…We are seeing the US becoming weaker and weaker as the Russians, Chines, and their proxies in Iran and N. Korea are even more emboldened. God help us all.

  103. # pm317 Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I take it all your Soros stuff is justified speculation..You may be giving Big Pink a bad name.

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    Now how did I know you were going there? Justified speculation is allowed as long as there is a conclusion physically linked to a link expanded and borne out by a comprehensively researched site using a simple mathematic axiom 1+1= 2 not 3

    My Soros post after hours of reading is fraught with links in case you missed it. Taken from a very comprehensive site here:

    h… canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700

    In fact, wbboei just informed me he has sent the site to Glen Beck… and that isn’t just a rumor.

    Stay tuned, you may just see what has been written here by many of the posters and Admin- picked up by the Beck show.

  104. By not going ahead with the original missile system, Obama made it clear that he has been duped by Putin who seeks world wide domination by Russia once again. Russia will not stop Iran , and in fact, will supply them with SA 300 anti-missile system which can engage over 100 planes, contest 12 at a time, and hit at up to 90k feet, rendering an Israeli air strike next to impossible. It is incredible what this man is doing to our country in a mere 8 months…We are seeing the US becoming weaker and weaker as the Russians, Chines, and their proxies in Iran and N. Korea are even more emboldened. God help us all.
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    I agree with this analysis. But if mj can provide me with a link which shows that those countries are protected anyway and that the missile shield for Poland and Czechoslovakia was just a bush boondoggle as she put it then that is material. If there is such a link we will want to verify the information, because it could be propaganda. My sense is that those countries were not protected by a missile shield and that is why they were anxious and asked repeatedly for one, and that was why Bush promised them one. I would be particularly interested in knowing whether Kissinger advised Obama to abandon the nuclear shield when he took Bambi over for the initial meeting. Kissinger is a practioner of real politic just like Bismark so I am quite sure he did not. If you asked me why Obama sold out our allies I think pm 317 is right that it was partly to benefit his backer GE–at our expense. I also believe he wants to have a strategic arms limitation treaty as a political headline to show his foreign policy credentials to position himself against a Republican challenger in 2012, even if it weakens us in the process as you correctly point out. The big secret here is in the absense of a treaty, Russian would be jettisoning these weapons anyway because they are old cold war systems, and are obsolete or outdated. So Obama got rolled–what else is new.

  105. wbboei, looking at FP site, they all say Obama canceled Bush’s plan but don’t say what comes in its place, if any. So don’t know where mj is getting her info. Polish PM refused to take Obama’s call last night.

  106. The other reason he wants that treaty is because he wants to position himself on the world stage as the moral voice of non-proliferation. This ties in with his amazing, historic, intergalatic soiree at the UN where he will chair a world committee on non polifieration. With Mr. Obama it is never about the truth,never about governing and never about the strategic interests of the United States. It is always about Barack, the endless campaign and the next headline, and the one after that, and the one after that etc.

  107. wbboei, what do you think of polish PM not wanting to take the call?

    Also, if anyone watched BC on Jon Stewart, the ending was spectacular. Ever the master, BC pumped up Obama, said he would get his reform, praised the young people for voting for him, and then the zinger,.. paraphrasing — the young people voted for him even though the individual mandate will make them pay for it more than any other group. I am waiting to see what these Obots will do when they realize what individual mandates do to their pocket book.

  108. Barack. The most beautiful name I’ve Barack . . . okay enough Leonard Berntein–Maria in West Side Story. Welcome to the Prisoners Dilemma. He makes the deal with the industry. The deal reads NO PUBLIC OPTION. He has Old Stoneface Backus tender a bill which forces his young worshipers to pay or be fined with no public option. Then he goes to college campuses, lets them boo Backus, and promises them what? A PUBLIC OPTION. Not even Houdini could get out of that one. But Hodini never met Rham Emanuel and if you can get past his foul mouth Rambo is the smartest chief of staff who ever lived and Rham has come up with the magic trick to escape the trap: THE TRIGGER. Hi ho silver away! Only problem is Fatfuck Dean who hates Rham for cutting his legs out from under him is running around the country doing what? Trashing the trigger. Which puts good old Barcrack right back in the prisoners dilemma, towit:

    Question: sir if the market went against you praytell whom did you intend to cheat–your wife or your broker?

  109. Sorry: I am doing the late Lennie Bernstein an injustice: the lyric goes:

    Barack . . . the most beautiful name I have ever heard.

    Maria . . . the most beautiful name I have ever heard

  110. For the record, to extend the American nuclear umbrella to the Baltic states and other regions within the Soviet/Russian sphere of influence was madness.

    For the record, the announcement of the end of the missile placement in Poland was a monumental misjudgment because it was made on the anniversary of the invasion of Poland by the Soviet. Whoever was responsible for that decision is an idiot. Whoever it was. Hopefully Hillary had nothing to do with this mess and we suspect she did not.

    Chuck Schumer thought this withdrawal should have been part of a transaction. Perhaps it was and we do not know it yet. Not making public any possible agreements is a mistake. If there was no quid pro quo it is an even bigger mistake with epocal implications.

  111. ACORN and SEIU will be campaign issues. In New York Kristin Gillibrand might have finished off her chances if the Republicans run a credible candidate. Here’s what’s happening in Virginia.

  112. The young people voted for him even though the individual mandate will make them pay for it more than any other group. I am waiting to see what these Obots will do when they realize what individual mandates do to their pocket book.
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    Now now. Before they throw a hissy fit, they need to study up on the ancient and honor custom of Tithe, as described below. Also they should reflect upon the Biblical precept that it is more blessed to give than to receive. BOTS should have no problem with that.

    The book of Malachi has some of the most quoted Biblical verses on tithing, Malachi 3:8-12. Jews, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant Christians who tithe, understand that no man may outdo God in the act of charity. These verses talk about the supposed cause and effect of tithing. If one gives to God, they are to be blessed, where if one refuses to give they will be cursed. (Note: Obama is their god).

  113. ACORN and SEIU will be campaign issues. In New York Kristin Gillibrand might have finished off her chances if the Republicans run a credible candidate. Here’s what’s happening in Virginia.
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    Admin: they will run Peter King–I think.

  114. For the record, to extend the American nuclear umbrella to the Baltic states and other regions within the Soviet/Russian sphere of influence was madness.
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    Admin: could you clarify what you are saying. I see a distinction between placing missiles in the footprint of the Soviet Union vs. providing a missile defense system there. One is a provocative act, whereas the other is fundamentally defensive. However, I know for a fact that Putin does would not differentiate between the offensive and defensive systems like I do, any more than his predecessors do. The reason I ask is because the term “nuclear umbrella” could be construed to mean either or both. Could you give me your wisdom on that subject.

  115. Chuck Schumer thought this withdrawal should have been part of a transaction. Perhaps it was and we do not know it yet. Not making public any possible agreements is a mistake. If there was no quid pro quo it is an even bigger mistake with epocal implications.
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    Admin: correct on all points.

  116. Trigger was Snowe’s idea. I wrote about it in one of my posts
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    It was rahams idea before it was snowe’s according to what I read–but dont ask me for a link–unless it is kosher with mustard.

  117. wbboei, what do you think of polish PM not wanting to take the call?
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    I am no longer a Republican but in some respects I still think like one. This may be one of those instances. I see this as problematic. At a minimum, that 3am call did not involve her. Was this because of protocol or was there more to it? Was there a prior course of dealing between Hillary and the Prime Minister of Poland? What promises were made to him on behalf of this Administration. You may recall that there was a prior dispute on this issue between Obama and this man on this very issue? How was that issue resolved? What role did Hillary play in the resolution of that prior issue? Was he blind sided on this, or was he given opportunity to react and discuss before the fact? My suspicion and concern is there may have been mixed messages here with so many cooks involved. Since I do not know the answer to those questions, I do not know what to think about it. I do know the management structure he has put in place makes sound real time decision making nearly impossible.

  118. You may recall that there was a prior dispute on this issue between Obama and this man on this very issue?
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    To put a finer point on it, I think what happened was the Polish prime minister asked Barack if he would make good on Bush’s promise to install a missile defense system and he said yes. Then later he said no or equivocated. Whereon the Polish ambassador objected. That was the initial dispute. At that point, I expect that Barack told him not to worry, it would all get worked out. Finally, I think Barack got target lock on a SALT with Putin and Putin demanded that the missile defense system not be built and Bambi said okay, but forgot to tell Poland. Details can be very confusing while the Bulls are playing. This is guesswork however.

  119. For the record, the announcement of the end of the missile placement in Poland was a monumental misjudgment because it was made on the anniversary of the invasion of Poland by the Soviet. Whoever was responsible for that decision is an idiot. Whoever it was.
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    Seems like the kind of thing Samantha Powers Sunstein might do–just doing what comes naturally.

  120. Wbboei, Peter King is not running for Senate. What we have heard is that the Republicans think they have a good chance of taking over the House and they are making their efforts there. King was assured of good assignments (Appropriations Committee) and fundraising help if he would forego the Senate race and stick to the House. He has agreed to run for reelection to his House seat. The same is happening with other candidates around the country.

    The Republicans have not given up on the Senate but they think the House is definitely doable because 2010 will be a wave election.

    As to the Russian situation: The U.S. efforts to provide a nuclear umbrella for the Baltic states and Georgia and states surrounding the former Soviet is not practical. All these states are border states (Georgia actually within) to the Russian Federation and the U.S. does not have the muscle now to carry out its promises. As to missiles and the rest, there are practical reasons for providing missile protection but would the U.S. really go to nuclear war (which is what would happen) over states so close to the Russian Federation? It seems to us an empty promise and a check that can be written but won’t be honored. It is Bresk-Litvosk all over again.

    In addition, announcing these steps on the anniversary of the Soviet invation of Poland was not wise.

    There are rumors aplenty that the steps were taken out of desperation due to the rumored Iranian acquistion of a nuclear device and the means to deliver it. The U.S. wants some Russian help, something, anything. The U.S. is desperate and we think the Russians are savvy enough to know they have the upper hand in the matter.

    Israel knows the U.S. influence is waning and Netanyahu went to Russia to try and do something to forestall an Israeli attack on Iran and who knows where else. The Israelis will defend themselves and they are feeling abandoned by the Obama U.S. government. This is dangerous. The U.S. should stick by Israel publically and privately in order to influence Israeli policy and calm Israeli fears. Indeed, the U.S. should make Israel feel secure in order to forstall actions which will have ramifications.

    Your point about a distinction between defensive versus provacative acts is well made. However, the U.S. is too weak to promise protection to states which Russia can pressure either economically, geographically or even militarily. The Russians are not fools. They know the U.S. military is over-deployed. The Russians further know that economically the U.S. is too weak to bolster its forces significantly. It’s almost the reverse of the Reagan years when the U.S. economy was so strong we were able to break the Soviet military via economic means. The Russians also know that politics in the U.S. are way different from the time when Jimmy Carter was able to force Pershing missiles to be deployed despite American/European public opinion. [Need we mention the Russians know Obama is a weak sister?]

    Mind you, we have a soft spot for the Baltic states and Poland and the Czech Republic has claims on our historic memory too. It is not a good feeling to accept that the U.S. is now so weak that these states must be left to mostly deal with the Russian bear without significant American support. It’s Finlandization again (we wonder how the Finns are feeling these days). But the U.S. military and the U.S. economy (which is a prerequiste for a strong military) are so weak that the reality is our protective arm cannot defend these states. Not for a moment do we believe that the Russians are not aware of the Federal Reserve’s shenanigans with the U.S. Treasury to disguise our actual economic weakness.

    We won’t even go into the gas and oil situation because it is too depressing.

    We hope we are wrong. We hope we are very very wrong.

  121. One last observation regarding missiles in Europe.

    Missiles in Europe are a political statement much more than a military statement. The U.S. has sufficient ICBMs and multiple warheads along with submarines armed with nuclear missiles to remove Russia from the political map. The whole purpose of these missile deployments and American personnel in bases housing the missiles is to make the political statement that the U.S. is an ally which will respond to any attack simply because American personnel would be casualties in the event of military assault.

    The military deployments are the way the U.S. makes a committment to European (actually worldwide) states of the seriousness of U.S. intentions.

    The American blue water navy vastly outclasses the Russian navy. American submarines in 15 minutes could devastate the Russian Federation. The current argument is political, not military.

    The Polish government understood the significance of the American decision today and is furious (ergo the phone call issue).

    Finally, missile deployments are militarily not important but the implication is a political withdrawal and that is a serious issue.

  122. Polish PM refused to take Obama’s call last night.
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    That is some evidence that the scenario I laid out is correct. It was a renege. And Barack was the culprit. The reason he did not return Hillary’s call and called it protocol was to force Barack to call him so he could fail to return his call, and thereby let him know exactly how he felt. Does one scintilla of this even register with Barack? Probably not. He is too oriented to the big picture and too determined to go where no man has gone before. But the more I see him in operation the more the whole thing looks like The Original Amateur Hour.

  123. One, final, final, point.

    American presidents turn their eyes towards foreign policy at the end of their terms usually. This is because by the end of their terms presidents are usually spent forces domestically. For an American president there is the ability to almost act without restraint and therefore when presidents are in trouble domestically, they turn their eyes outside American borders.

    What this means: Hillary – get the hell out of there as soon as possible.

  124. Wbboei, Peter King is not running for Senate. What we have heard is that the Republicans think they have a good chance of taking over the House and they are making their efforts there. King was assured of good assignments (Appropriations Committee) and fundraising help if he would forego the Senate race and stick to the House. He has agreed to run for reelection to his House seat. The same is happening with other candidates around the country.
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    Admin: I did not know that. But it makes sense. I assume that is because they have a better shot at achieving control in that chamber. Also, Pelosi will be easy for them to run against.

    The reason I thought King would be their senate candidate is because when Hillary left her seat, there was speculation that Peter would be the opponent in 2010. But he would lose his seniority if he did that, and if he has been promised good committee assignments which would like his visibility and help him deliver for constituents then this makes sense.

  125. In another survey 65% of doctors polled said they opposed the BO plan and 45% said they would shut down their practice if it passes.
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    That is believable. They have bicycles built for two–at least they used to back in the gaslight era. So why not ass kicking machines built for two– for bambi and backus. What is the matter with Mr. Obama? Why just the other day Bob Herbert was saying he was a thoughtful man in a thoughtful administation etc. You don’t hear that word much anymore.

  126. Admin: I commend you on a high level of analysis on the Russian situation. I read it exactly as you do on every single point. This reads like an executive summary of a first rate Pentagon Briefing Paper. The conclusion is sobering to say the least.

    If only our leaders had the confidence to bring the public in on more of this, rather than trying to keep us in the dark.

    If only we had a media that told us the truth, did not call malign, disparage and condescend to our people and did not try to incite racial strife when all those people ever did was try to participate in this democracy to the extent of their ability.

  127. “What this means: Hillary – get the hell out of there as soon as possible.”
    ————

    Admin, yep. I am nervous for her about this latest development. I think she should go back to NY and run for Governor. She will win and that would be an easy transition out of this snake pit. Lazio threw his hat in. Paterson is weak.

  128. John Batchelor (I think) on NQ wrote an article about Obama’s solo trip to Russia and said that they were surprised how he gave away the farm to them, how under prepared his team was (we should perhaps be glad that Hillary was not on that trip?). So this does not look like a quid pro quo, what did the US get in return?

  129. “For the record, the announcement of the end of the missile placement in Poland was a monumental misjudgment because it was made on the anniversary of the invasion of Poland by the Soviet. Whoever was responsible for that decision is an idiot.”

    Admin, wow, just wow! A side note, you know how when Obama visited Poland and in some ceremony (with the military parade), he and MO and Polish PM and his wife stood there in attention to watch it, at one point, the camera caught him looking at MO with a half knowing smile (kind of look where we are or look at these morons type) — incredibly rude and uncouth.

  130. This latest tap dance regarding the missile shield makes me finally agree with those saying that Hillary should step down asap. It’s very hard because I see her as the only saving grace in this circus, but the truth of the matter is that not only can obama not be trusted, but the party is full of vipers now.

  131. Good Morning,

    I just want to wish my Jewish friends on this site a very happy Rosh Hashanah. Happy New Year to all of you. I hope it is full of wonderful blessings and joy. 🙂

  132. U.S. missile decision sparks European reaction

    Friday, September 18, 2009

    The cancellation of a long-planned missile shield for Eastern Europe by the United States set off a flurry of reaction Friday in Europe.

    NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen urged the Western alliance and Russia to consider linking their defensive missile systems to combat the proliferation of such technology in other countries. “If North Korea stays nuclear and if Iran becomes nuclear, some of their neighbours might feel compelled to follow their example,” Rasmussen said in Brussels.

    In Sochi, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin praised U.S. President Barack Obama’s decision to scrap plans for a missile defence system in Europe, hailing the move as “right and brave.” He also urged the U.S. to cancel trade restrictions on Russia.

    Meanwhile, Turkey’s military said it will spend $1 billion US on four long-range missile defence systems. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu denied media reports that Turkey is buying missile interceptors against Iran.

    On Thursday, Obama said he is shelving a plan that would have put a missile defence system in the Czech Republic and Poland. The Bush-era project had been opposed by Russia.

    Instead, the U.S. will launch a new program in 2011 that will focus on sea- and land-based missile interceptors. The system is also set to include a range of sensors in Europe to defend against ballistic missile threats from the Middle East.

    The move came about because of a change in the U.S. perception of the threat posed by Iran.

    cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/18/us-missile-react018.html

  133. US Mideast envoy fails to strike settlement deal

    By Nasser Abu Bakr

    RAMALLAH, West Bank — US envoy George Mitchell appeared Friday to have failed to secure a key deal on Jewish settlements aimed at paving the way for a resumption of Middle East peace negotiations. The former senator shuttled between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas on Friday, after having met with both leaders earlier this week.

    He has been trying to wrest a compromise on the thorny issue that would have led to a three-way meeting between Netanyahu, Abbas and US President Barack Obama on the sidelines of next week’s UN General Assembly.

    “Mitchell told us he did not reach an agreement with the Israelis on freezing settlements,” key Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat told reporters after Mitchell held talks with Abbas in the occupied West Bank. Mitchell met with Abbas after huddling with Netanyahu in the morning and was to hold a second meeting with the premier in Jerusalem later in the day. He has been aiming to get some kind of an Israeli moratorium on settlement construction that would be acceptable to the Palestinians and enable the resumption of peace talks that were suspended in late December.

    Netanyahu has so far rebuffed US calls to freeze settlement construction in the West Bank, including annexed east Jerusalem, and Palestinians are sticking to their demand for such a halt before negotiations can resume. Abbas told Mitchell that “the issue of a settlement halt is not up for compromise,” Erakat said.

    Mitchell, who was involved in brokering the 1998 Good Friday agreements that ended decades of strife in Northern Ireland, was due to continue his efforts to find the elusive compromise before the UN meeting. “We hope that a comprehensive agreement on all issues can be found and senator Mitchell is deploying all his efforts toward that end,” Erakat said.

    Mitchell has been in the region for nearly a week, urging all parties to “take responsibility” for peace amid US efforts to secure a comprehensive regional deal to resolve the decades-old Arab-Israeli conflict. “The United States is asking all the parties, Israel, the Palestinians and Arab states to take responsibility for peace through actions that will help create a positive context for the relaunch of negotiations,” he said on Thursday after talks with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

    On Monday, Netanyahu repeated he had no intention of implementing a complete settlement freeze, saying any halt would be temporary, would not extend to east Jerusalem and would exclude some 2,500 units already under construction.

    Mitchell said at the start of his latest tour that the United States shared a “sense of urgency” for peace talks to resume before the end of September. Standing in the way are Jewish settlements on occupied Palestinian land — home to half a million Israelis, viewed as illegal by the international community, and a key obstacle to reaching a peace deal.

    Obama’s administration has been working towards a comprehensive peace package that would see Israel strike deals with the Palestinians, Syria and Lebanon, and Arab countries normalise relations with the Jewish state. Israelis and Palestinians resumed negotiations in November 2007 after a nearly seven-year hiatus, but the talks made little visible progress and were suspended in late December after Israel launched its war in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip.

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iTW_gdeDi49q3Z3ySm5UaSmmEBtw

  134. Friday, September 18, 2009

    Obama’s never found guilty by association
    Lorne Gunter, National Post

    Suppose it was revealed that the pastor who had married George and Laura Bush, baptized their two daughters and ministered to their spiritual needs for 20 years was a raving white supremacist who, from the pulpit, preached the separation of the races, claimed that the promiscuity of African-Americans had quickened the spread of AIDS and mused about how America might be improved if black people were sent back to Africa.

    Or what if Mr. Bush, while president, had appointed an admitted neo-Nazi to a senior advisory post within his administration, a man who openly endorsed the use of child labour in Third World sweatshops and accused all Muslims of being terrorists or terrorist sympathizers hellbent on the destruction of Western civilization?

    Or how about former vice-president Dick Cheney, the American left’s favourite dark prince? What if it were revealed he had been one of eight members of a foundation board that had also included an ex-mercenary who, while never convicted of an assassination, nonetheless boasted about of having shot at several Third World leaders and lamented aloud how he’d wished he’d done more?

    The leftist blogosphere would never believe that Messrs. Bush and Cheney were unaware of the radical positions taken by these associates. Lefty bloggers like Daily Kos and Moveon.orgwould see these affiliations as proof positive of a secret Evangelical- fascist agenda submerged deep within the administration bent on provoking wars of aggression for commercial gain. And the bloggers would be cheered from the sidelines by CNN, the New York Times, CNBC, CBS and National Public Radio.

    Now what if on top of all this, it was revealed that George Bush had once done work for an organization that then stuffed ballot boxes to get him elected and routinely counselled clients on how to cheat on their taxes?

    Barack Obama is guilty of associations similar to all of these less than eight months into his administration.

    The most recent disclosures are about Acorn, the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now, of which Mr. Obama was not only once a prominent member, but which he had hoped to involve in, among other things, next year’s U. S. census that will help determine the number of Congressional districts in Democratfriendly inner cities. Several Acorn employees have recently been caught on tape counselling apparent inner city residents on how to cheat on their taxes, and more than a dozen others have been charged with submitting fraudulent voter registrations on behalf of the Democrats in last fall’s presidential election.

    Most members of the American media are wilfully blind to the possibility of a pattern in all this. They refuse to see how the President’s past associations might reveal a reflexively radical nature Mr. Obama has worked had to disguise.

    The minister who performed Mr. Obama’s marriage to Michelle, Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ, who baptized their two girls and was the family’s pastor for 20 years, of course has said many famous and inflammatory things. Best known is Rev. Wright’s call for blacks to sing God Damn America, rather than God Bless America. Even since Mr. Obama’s inauguration, though, his former preacher has continued to blame plots by whites and Jews for America’s troubles.

    Then there is Van Jones, Mr. Obama’s so-called “green jobs czar,” who resigned earlier this month after it was discovered that he was a self-described “rowdy communist” and black nationalist who had as recently as four years ago signed a “Truther” petition. (A Truther is someone who believes the Bush White House or CIA were really behind the 9/11 attacks.) On the night after the 9/11 attacks, Mr. Jones had helped organize a vigil at which speakers denounced America, expressed sympathy for “America’s victims” around the world and stated their solidarity with Muslims.

    And, of course, Mr. Obama had sat for three years on the eight-person board of Chicago’s Woods Fund with William Ayers, an unrepentant ’60s radical and former member of the Weather Underground, who still brags about setting bombs in laboratories and businesses with connections to the Vietnam war.

    On far less evidence, most Western journalists were able to convince themselves that George Bush was the most dangerous, illegitimate president ever. Yet they give Barack Obama a free ride.

    nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=5b628b9f-66f9-483d-9afb-f73d5ec8f1a7

  135. Where is Hillary Clinton in the great missile defence surrender?

    By Con Coughlin Defence September 18th, 2009

    Excuse me, but when Washington announces a revolutionary change in the way it conducts its relations with the outside world it is normal for the American Secretary of State to be involved in some way.

    So where’s Hillary Clinton? We’ve heard a lot from President Barack Obama and Robert Gates, the Defence Secretary, about their lamentable decision to abandon the missile defence system in Europe, which has been a key pillar of the transatlantic alliance for a decade or more. But we’ve heard not a squeak from Mrs Clinton.

    Could this be that, unlike Mr Obama and Mr Gates, she sees this decision for what it is, an abject surrender of American influence in Europe, and a shocking betrayal of all those former vassal states of the Soviet Union that are desperately seeking the support and protection of the West?

    Compared with Mr Obama and Mr Gates, whose first instinct when faced with an international crisis is to make concessions, Mrs Clinton is a more hard-headed and hawkish operator. She might want to “reset” Washington’s relations with Moscow, but not at the expense of capitulating to Iran’s attempts to terrorise the world with its nuclear programme.

    She, for one, will not be at all surprised that, within 24 hours of Mr Obama’s decision to abandon the missile defence system, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad appears on American television declaring that Tehran will never abandon its nuclear programme.

    This is precisely the kind of response you can expect if you try to appease dictators, which is how Tehran will interpret the cancellation of the missile system. But I suspect Mrs Clinton has her own views on how to respond to this increased bellicosity from Iran, and it does not involve rolling over and having her tummy tickled by the mullahs.

    blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100010436/where-is-hillary-clinton-in-the-great-missile-defence-surrender/

  136. Never let them forget that the WH wanted Acorn to run the census next year, a fact that seems to have been forgotten.

  137. Where is Hillary Clinton in the great missile defence surrender?

    By Con Coughlin Defence September 18th, 2009

    ——————————–

    We should frame this article and keep it for future reference.

  138. MOP,
    YUP! Can you imagine what would have happened had they not been exposed?
    ADMIN!!!!!!
    Pleeze,pleeze pleeze embed!
    Krauthammer briliantly eviscerates the dim use of the racecard.
    And he dissects modo in the process!
    About modo ‘hearing’ the unspoken word ‘boy’ after Wilson’s “You Lie” outburst.
    Krauthammer; “I saw plenty of people who heard things that weren’t said in my former profession. They were called “Patients.”youtube dot com/watch?v=EB6AsQmPtuU&feature=player_embedded#t=94
    Race is the Last refuge of the Liberal Scoundrel

  139. WH must have sent a memo, they are all backtracking from the race baiting exercise. I wonder what will Joan Walsh do to back track.

  140. Admin,

    Your posts on the missile shield are out-of-the-park brilliant!

    Even the global-politics-challenged like me was able to follow!

    Thanks

  141. pm317,

    TOO LATE!

    Bwahahahahahaha!

    And now unleashing Big MO on the public to lobby for healthcare – D@m n but that’s going to be fun!

    😉

  142. In a Fox poll about whether people thought opposition to BO’s healthcare policy was based on race, check the results;

    34% of Dems said yes
    8% of Repubs
    13% of Indy’s
    and 67% of AA’s!

  143. short succinct statement on the connection between the missile shields, Putin and US corporations.

    Reuters reports an interesting nugget in the wake of President Barack Obama’s decision to grant Vladimir Putin his wish and kill the Eastern European missile shield:

    Shortly after the pullback on the shield programme was announced, Russia’s government said Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would meet several U.S. executives on Friday from firms including General Electric, Morgan Stanley as well as TPG, one of the world’s largest private equity firms”

  144. Opposition to HC reform hits new high.

    Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide now oppose the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition yet measured and includes 44% who are Strongly Opposed.

    Just 43% now favor the proposal, including 24% who Strongly Favor it.

    But the overall picture remains one of stability. While the numbers have bounced a bit following nationally televised appearances by the president to promote the plan, opposition has generally stayed above 50% since early July. Support has been in the low to mid 40s.

    The number who Strongly Oppose the plan has remained above 40% and the Strongly Favor totals have been in the mid-20s. This suggests public opinion is hardening when it comes to the plan that is currently working its way through Congress.

    However, now just 48% say that health care reform plan is at least somewhat likely to pass this year, a figure that has been trending down in recent days. That figure includes 17% who say passage is Very Likely.

  145. In a Fox poll about whether people thought opposition to BO’s healthcare policy was based on race, check the results;

    34% of Dems said yes
    8% of Repubs
    13% of Indy’s
    and 67% of AA’s!

    ……………………………………………………………..

    Which frankly more or less proves that a majority of AA’s still have not gotten past the old mindset of Whitey hates us, seriously whats it going to take or will they ever. I think its a fair question.

  146. Obviously the brain dead idiots working with Obama have no clue.

    Not only shafting the american’s allies by dropping the missile shield but because pising off Poland as they announced it on THE SEVENTIETH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SOVIET INVASION OF POLAND, YOU DAFT, HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE, IDIOTS?!?

  147. Yes, the opinions are hardening. The question is how does this affect the voting in the House and Senate. The House are re-elected every two years, so they must carefuly reflect how the voters, who vote them in are feeling. But as I remember, the Senators are elected every 6 years, so that might mean only 1/3 of them are up for re-election. Those are the people that must refect how the voters feel in their areas. The exception are seats that have been vacated unexpectedly, due to moving on or death. So we have probably 50% of the house up for re-election byt the rest up shortly and 33% of the Senate up for re-election, and it is in those areas you will find people really paying attention to the voters.

    The Senators who are re-elected in 3 or 5 years, now they could give a crap, as they think voters will forget. Of course if the feeling are strong in thier areas, their memories might improve.

  148. Confloyd,
    your theory about globalization and the drive for a 1-world currency is being covered on Fox.
    They’re talking about the UN push for it in a recent report and also how the UN wants to punish the US.

    If this is true, on top of BO’s increasingly active role in the UN, it lends credence to your position that BO is purposely trying to bankrupt this country with his off-the-charts spending to make it easier for the UN plan to succeed. What do you think?

  149. Basil9, I don’t understand why Putin met with GE, Morgan Stanley and TGM,what is the significance?? What are we peddling to Russia??

  150. Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Poland one of are Coalition member who fought and died with us in Afnamistan and Iraq??

  151. In answer to who it was that advised the POTUS to decide to drop the missile shield on the 70th anniversery of the Soviet invasion, it could be no one other than Bambi because he is ignorant of historical relevance and has been since he was sworn in twice. He did send that bust of Churchill back and so many other stupidass things, it really could be no on other than him.

    Of coarse he is going to butter up the communist nations, all of his friends are communists, he doesn’t feel he needs to hide it anymore as the dumb democrats selected him over Hillary.

  152. moononpluto, I find this so disgusting. I thought we were going to try and teach countries to respect one another? WE were going to reset foreign relations???

    I wonder how those Polish moms feel this am after burying the sons to help the United States??

    Isn’t there any way to get this moron out of there sooner than 2012?? At this point I am not sure this country will survive it tenure.

  153. NATO Proposes Link With Russia’s Missile Defense

    h… w…foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/09/18/nato-proposes-link-russias-missile-defense/

    NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen appealed for unity a day after the U.S. shelved a Bush-era plan for an Eastern European missile defense shield that has been a major irritant in relations with Russia.

    BRUSSELS – The head of NATO called Friday for the U.S., Russia and NATO to link their missile defense systems against potential new nuclear threats from Asia and the Middle East, saying that the old foes must forget their lingering Cold War animosity.

    Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen appealed for unity a day after the U.S. shelved a Bush-era plan for an Eastern European missile defense shield that has been a major irritant in relations with Russia.

    “We should explore the potential for linking the US, NATO and Russia missile defense systems at an appropriate time,” Fogh Rasmussen said. “Both NATO and Russia have a wealth of experience in missile defense. We should now work to combine this experience to our mutual benefit.”

    Fogh Rasmussen said in a speech calling for a rethink of NATO-Russia relations that long-range ballistic missile technology in the hands of such countries as North Korea and Iran threatens the West and Russia in large part because it could lead to regional proliferation.

    “If North Korea stays nuclear, and if Iran becomes nuclear, some of their neighbors might feel compelled to follow their example,” he said. “The proliferation of ballistic missile technology is of concern not just to NATO nations, but to Russia too.”

    Fogh Rasmussen said NATO and Moscow have failed to jointly take on global security threats including terrorism.

    “When the Cold War ended 20 years ago, NATO and Russia developed rather unrealistic expectations about each other,” he said. “Those flawed expectations … continue to burden our relationship.”

    He did not elaborate on how or to what extent the Russian, NATO and American anti-missile systems could be linked up.

    The U.S. said the decision to abandon the Bush administration’s plans came about because of a change in the U.S. perception of the threat posed by Iran. U.S. intelligence decided short- and medium-range missiles from Iran now pose a greater near-term threat than the intercontinental ballistic missiles the Bush plan addressed.

    A new missile-defense plan would rely on a network of sensors and interceptor missiles based at sea, on land and in the air as a bulwark against Iranian short- and medium-range missiles.

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Friday praised Obama’s decision and urged the U.S. to also cancel Cold War-era restrictions on trade with Russia.

    Russian leaders had threatened to deploy short-range missiles to the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad near Poland if the U.S. moved ahead with the missile defense plan.

    On Friday, the Interfax news quoted an unnamed Russian military-diplomatic source as saying that such retaliatory measures would now be frozen and, possibly, fully canceled in response to Obama’s decision to scrap the missile defense shield.

    In the past, Russia has said it is ready to jointly work on missile defense with the NATO and the United States.

    But it views Iran being far from obtaining a long-range missile technology and says it’s necessary to jointly analyze missile threats from that country and other nations before taking any further action.

    In 2007, Putin who still was Russia’s president at the time, offered the U.S. to use a Soviet-era radar in Azerbaijan as an alternative to the Bush administration’s missile defense plan for Eastern Europe.

    The Bush administration said the facility couldn’t replace the planned missile shield.

    The NATO allies have done some technical work with the Russians on missile defense in the past.

    But this has slowed down in recent years as the relationship tanked over NATO enlargement and the Georgian war. Fogh Rasmussen’s speech is a bid to revive such joint work.

    Turkey’s military said Friday that it was planning to spend $1 billion on four long-range missile defense systems but denied it was buying missile interceptors for use against Iran.

  154. Ah! making deals with the Devil. After all Russia has been such a reliable friend in the past, and after all they are a stable democracy now. Yah, right.

  155. basil9, @ 9:59 I think this is the reason this PUPPET is in office and the only reason he is there. Hillary would not play the game and she is there to protect us from this if possible. I wonder if she is getting on their nerves as she was marked for assassination in Africa. ThankGod nothing happened to her. I can see her taking this job for the explicit purpose of trying to protect the American people whenever possible. I think she used her political clout to get this job and use it if possible. A kind of under cover job.

  156. Ahmadinejad: Iran will never stop nuclear program

    Thu Sep 17, 2009

    WASHINGTON, Sept 17 (Reuters) – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday that Iran would “never” abandon its disputed nuclear program to appease Western critics. In an NBC-TV interview, the Iranian leader also did not offer a direct response when asked whether there were any conditions under which Iran would develop a nuclear weapon.

    “We don’t need nuclear weapons,” Ahmadinejad said, speaking through an interpreter. “We do not see any need for such weapons. And the conditions around the world are moving to favor our ideas,” Ahmadinejad added.

    Iran has repeatedly said it is enriching uranium only to generate electricity, not for fissile bomb material, although it has no nuclear power plants to use low-level enriched uranium. Ahmadinejad said Iran would “never” halt work on its nuclear program to mollify Western skeptics.

    Iran is set to attend talks on Oct. 1 with major powers worried about its nuclear strategy. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said this week any talks with Iran would have to address the nuclear issue. “We have always believed in talking, in negotiating, that’s our logic. “Nothing has changed,” Ahmadinejad said, speaking through an interpreter. “If you are talking about the enrichment of uranium for peaceful purposes, this will never be closed down here in Iran,” he said.

    The P-5 plus 1 (the United States, Britain, China, France, Russia and Germany) is concerned that Iran’s nuclear enrichment program is aimed at producing a nuclear weapon. The International Atomic Energy Agency said on Thursday that it has no proof that Iran has or once had a covert atomic bomb program, dismissing a media report that the IAEA had concluded Iran was on its way to producing nuclear weapons.

    In the NBC interview, Ahmadinejad also defended the legality of his re-election last spring, “I don’t see any problems.”

    reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN17231382

  157. ACORN IS FUCKED. ONLY 17% SAY THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE FUNDED. ONLY 15% HAVE A FAVOURABLE VIEW OF ACORN.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of U.S. voters now say Congress should end all federal funding of the controversial community organizing group ACORN.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 17% favor continued taxpayer support of the Association for Community Organizations for Reform Now. Thirty-two percent (32%) are not sure.

    Among those who have been very closely following recent news stories about ACORN, which describes itself as “the nation’s largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people,” 80% think all federal funding should be ended.

    Only 15% of voters now have even a somewhat favorable opinion of ACORN, while 67% have an unfavorable view of the group. Those figures include only three percent (3%) with a very favorable opinion and 47% with a very unfavorable view.

    Eighty-five percent (85%) of Republicans, 73% of voters not affiliated with either major political party, and 44% of Democrats have an unfavorable view of ACORN.

    Liberal voters are evenly divided—35% favorable and 38% unfavorable. Eighty-two percent (82%) of conservative voters give ACORN unfavorable marks along with 60% of political moderates.

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it’s in the news, it’s in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    Fifty-seven percent (57%) of all voters also believe that the ongoing criminal investigations of ACORN in several states are primarily the result of illegal behavior on the organization’s part. Twenty percent (20%) say the investigations are politically motivated, and 23% are undecided.

    The U.S. Census Bureau had been planning to use ACORN workers to ensure a more accurate count of the U.S. population in 2010, but 64% agree with the Census Bureau’s recent decision to end that relationship. Ten percent (10%) disagree with the bureau’s action, while 26% are not sure.

    ACORN employees in several cities have been secretly videotaped advising a man and women how to set up a prostitution business that in at least one case included use of underage girls. ACORN has insisted the videos were illegally filmed and only represent the actions of a few bad employees. The group has launched its own internal investigation of the incidents. ACORN is also being investigated in a number of states for fraudulent voter registration in connection with last year’s election.

    Critics have attempted to draw President Obama into the controversy because his campaign hired an ACORN affiliate to get out the vote during last year’s Democratic primaries. The Obama campaign says it did not use ACORN during the general election campaign.

    The House on Thursday voted to end all federal funding of the group. Just 75 Congress members voted against the measure, all Democrats. The Senate on Monday voted 83 to 7 to end funding for the group.
    Seventy-five percent (75%) of Republicans and 58% of unaffiliated voters say Congress should end all funding of ACORN. Only 24% of Democrats agree.

    Seventy-three percent (73%) of conservative voters want ACORN funding halted. Among liberals, just 14% favor a stop to ACORN funding, while 39% are opposed and 48% are undecided.

    Seven-out-of-10 voters (70%) say they are following recent news stories about ACORN at least somewhat closely, with 41% following very closely. Only eight percent (8%) say they aren’t following the news about ACORN at all.

  158. According to the Soros Plan Obama wants to:

    Legalize Illegals To Get Them Health Care

    lengthy video if you want to embed:

    realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/18/obama_legalize_illegals_to_get_them_health_care.html

    “Washington Times: “Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don’t simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken,” Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. “That’s why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

    Mr. Obama added, “If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all.”

  159. I disagree, that the ACORN people were not used during the general, as they had become fixtures (in and out feeding data bases) in the state office here.

    I also don’t understand that it makes any difference, as it frauded the Primary and therefore the General Election.

  160. From NBC’s Libby Leist
    Secretary of State Clinton defended President Obama’s decision on missile defense saying, “This decision was not about Russia it was about IRAN and the threat its ballistic missile program poses.”

    She said the change proposed by Obama will deploy missile defense sooner – a “stronger and smarter approach.”

    She made the comments during a speech at the Brookings Institution, previewing next week’s session of the U.N. General Assembly.”

    Hillary…please get out while you still can…:(

  161. Mrs. Smith,

    I read that. Talk about brazen! So Bo said he won’t fund HC for illegals – because there won’t BE any illegals after he provides amnesty for all!

    MOP,
    I think acorn is just going to shapeshift into some other organization, using one of the 71 federal programs that now fund them.

    confloyd, After what I saw on Fox today it seems like one world order based on one world currency is the wave of the future unless something or someone intervenes.

  162. I don’t think she’s been poisoned, but I agree that she should get out. Whether it’s true or not that this was more about Iran than Russia, the implication and fallout is showing that it doesn’t matter. Russia gains. Eastern Europe doesn’t. Russia and Iran are laughing. The rest of the world…shaking their heads.

  163. birdgal Says:

    September 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
    Finally, something is being done about the nefarious activities of ACORN.
    &&&&&&&&

    Agreed, ACORN should be buried (by a squirrel).

    However, methinks the monied interests that bought and paid for the Resident at 1600 will find a shell organization to carry out what ACORN will not be able to. For instance, watch out for some new group, perhaps called NORCA (National Obama Re-election Community Activists).

    All that sellin’ out to insider interests no doubt has Mr. Low Approval Ratings swimming in campaign cash. The money will find its mark.

    The question is, despite the advantages of incumbency and money, will Obama’s disastrous performance result in him being voted out of office?

  164. While HRC is still the SoS, don’t look for her to be too brazen in her criticism of The One. Criticisms will be couched, her sentences parsed for implied meanings.

  165. Friday, September 18, 2009

    Iran must ‘now decide’ on nuclear talks: Clinton

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged Iran on Friday to take up the offer from the United States and other powers to negotiate a halt to its suspect nuclear activities.

    “We have made clear our desire to resolve issues with Iran, diplomatically. Iran must now decide whether to join us in this effort,” Clinton told foreign policy experts before the UN General Assembly in New York next week.

    The five UN Security Council permanent members — the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France — plus Germany are due to take part in the talks with Iran’s top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili on October 1.

    Clinton warned that Iran, which the US and other Western nations fear is secretly developing nuclear weapons under the guise of its civilian nuclear power program, would face further sanctions if it shies away from talks. She said there would be “accompanying costs” for “Iran’s continued defiance,” citing “more isolation and economic pressure, less possibility of progress for the people of Iran.”

    As tens of thousands of Iranian opposition supporters mounted the first major protest in two months chanting “Death to the dictator” against hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Clinton heaped scorn on the regime. “Since June we have seen the Iranian government engaged in a campaign of politically motivated arrests, show trials and suppression of free speech,” Clinton said in a speech at the Brookings Institution.

    “The Iranian government seeks a sense of justice in the world, but stands in the way of the justice it seeks.”

    google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hCHedZaS8QR9OKAIIcLEMtuBP4fg

  166. Mrs. Smith Says:
    September 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    “Washington Times: “Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don’t simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken,” Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. “That’s why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    If they are “illegal aliens”, how can they be here “legally”???

  167. Hillary Clinton denies US rift with Japan

    Peter Alford, Tokyo correspondent | September 18, 2009

    HILLARY Clinton has denied that Japan’s change of government is opening alliance rifts, saying US officials are “engaging intensively” with the incoming Hatoyama administration. “It’s a change, which is dramatic, given the 50 years of (Liberal Democratic Party) governmental leadership,” the US Secretary of State said yesterday. “But I am very confident that the strength of our relationship and our alliance will stand the test of any political changes, although there will be new policies and new approaches.”

    However, the US has moved for immediate clarifying discussions. The State Department’s senior Japan expert, Kurt Campbell, headed to Tokyo after Katsuya Okada was named Foreign Minister on Wednesday night. Mr Campbell, Assistant Secretary for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, is expected to meet Mr Okada today, although neither Tokyo nor Washington would confirm that yesterday.

    Unease has grown on both sides as new Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama has declined to retreat from Democratic Party of Japan election positions affecting the alliance, while loose talk by Washington officials has raised DPJ hackles.

    The immediate concern for the US is the DPJ’s undertaking to remove Japanese refuelling support for the international naval cordon supporting anti-terrorism efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The DPJ, which won government in a landslide on August 30, said it would not renew enabling legislation for Japanese refuelling missions when it expired next January. The party’s policy objection is that the Indian Ocean mission is not UN-mandated, although it was endorsed post-hoc by the UN Security Council.

    During the election campaign, US officials acknowledged this was a position from which a DPJ government would not shift. They hoped, however, Japan would increase its contribution to Afghanistan stabilisation by other means, such as its funding for the training of Afghan police.

    The deeper worry for Washington is the DPJ’s policy call for a review of US military basing arrangements – particularly regarding relocation of the marines’ Futenma airbase on Okinawa – and the Status of Forces Agreement determining how local laws apply to US military people. On the other hand, DPJ policy officials and even some US commentators were affronted when, the day after Japan’s election, a State Department official stated Washington had “no intention” of reopening Okinawa base negotiations.

    Mr Okada shares Mr Hatoyama’s view that though the US alliance is the mainspring of Japan’s national security, the new government needs to take a more independent-minded position than did the LDP. As soon as he became Foreign Minister, Mr Okada confirmed his ministry would thoroughly investigate the status of an alleged secret nuclear weapons agreement between Washington and a previous LDP government.

    The hidden adjunct to the 1960 renegotiation of the US-Japan security alliance allowed US nuclear weapons to be transported into Japan, in defiance of one of the country’s “three non-nuclear principles”.

    The side-agreement appeared to be confirmed by a State Department document that came to light in 1999, though Japan’s Foreign Ministry continued to officially deny its existence.

    theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26088238-2703,00.html

  168. moononpluto Says:

    September 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
    ACORN IS &%$#ED. ONLY 17% SAY THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE FUNDED. ONLY 15% HAVE A FAVOURABLE VIEW OF ACORN.
    &&&&&&&

    Funny, ACORN’s favorability goes up to 63% when dead voters are polled.

  169. basil9 Says:

    September 18th, 2009 at 8:54 am
    pm317,

    TOO LATE!

    Bwahahahahahaha!

    And now unleashing Big MO on the public to lobby for healthcare –
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Oy ve, as if we don’t have a speech-a-minute from BO, now it’s MO’s turn?

    Let me guess, she’s an “expert” on health care because she managed to talk a hospital into paying $270,000 / year…

  170. birdgal,

    meme just has to breathe and they cover it. Many articles about her entering the health debate as bambi’s secret weapon of all things. Many more articles about her opening a market.

    the media should be ashamed of themselves.

  171. More coverage on talk radio about BO’s plan to make sure no illegals are covered by HC by providing amnesty for them and eliminating the legality issue.

    They play portions of the speech he made at some college University the other day when he was heckled as he repeated the lie that his HRC bill won’t cover illegals.

    What a lying POS he is.

    birdgal – maybe it’s a good thing there’s a blackout (OOPS! that’s RACIST!) about HRC. Flying beneath the radar is sometimes the best way to travel.

  172. No blackout here in spite of the Obama and fringe media to do so.Her day is coming and there will be a lot of buyers remorse within the Messiah scam cheerleaders.Here is this great lady schedule for today.I might add that I think thatBO is the busiest loobbyist that the Insurace industry has ever hired.He is “On The Road Again”

    ——————————————

    Daily Appointments: Daily Appointments Schedule for September 18, 2009
    Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:50:49 -0500

    Daily Appointments Schedule for September 18, 2009

    Washington, DC

    September 18, 2009

    ——————————————————————————–

    SECRETARY OF STATE CLINTON:
    10:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton delivers a Speech in Advance of the United Nations General Assembly, at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C.
    (POOL PRESS COVERAGE FOR CAMERAS/OPEN PRESS FOR WRITERS AND STILLS)
    Pre-set time for stills: 9:00 a.m. at 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW. (Press entrance is the main entrance)
    Final access time for writers: 10:00 a.m. at 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW.

    12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a Swearing-In Ceremony for Nancy Powell, Director General of the Foreign Service, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    1:35 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the Winners of the Second Annual Democracy Video Challenge, at the Department of State.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set time for cameras: 12:55 p.m. at 23rd Street Entrance.
    Final access time for writers and stills: 1:20 p.m. at 23rd Street Entrance.

    3:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton tours the Foreign Service Institute and hosts a Meet and Greet with Students, in Arlington, Virginia.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE FOR MEET AND GREET AT APPROXIMATELY 4:10 P.M.)
    Please note that the tour will be closed press coverage.
    Pre-set time for cameras: 2:30 p.m. at the main FSI Visitors Entrance, 4000 Arlington Boulevard.
    Final access time for writers and stills: 3:30 p.m. at the main FSI Visitors Entrance, 4000 Arlington Boulevard.

  173. RANT WARNING!

    BM is reporting approvingly of poopsie’s fake tears about the possibility of violence yesterday after TRASHING HRC when she got emotional in NH!!!!!

    👿

  174. basil9 Says:
    September 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    rgb44hrc Says:
    September 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    It’s the same old refrain… you can’t TRUST Obama. No One Can! Admin’s motto 🙂

    Obama is implementing slowly but surely every single policy change ordered by George Soros.

    I checked back in my files. I’ve been hunting information on Soros since last January, right after Obama took office. I believe Soros is moving double time (now) because his plans are being foiled as soon as his chessman are put in place.. Getting rid of ACORN is a must and we can’t let down on them giving them a pass.

    Cliff Kincaid has been a tireless source of information on Soros. His investigative connections are priceless. You may laugh at or mock what I’ve written in the last thread thinking, who does she think she is… but I don’t care. Everyone has there niche, reading the signs like a roadmap, that is mine… dyslexics are that way doncha know…As long as Pink is OK with what I write, I’m fine… If not, I’m sure admin will find a way to let me know…

    Soros Money Financed Communist Van Jones

    By Cliff Kincaid Tuesday, September 15, 2009

    When the list of donors to the Van Jones “Green for All” organization is examined, one name stands out-the Open Society Institute of billionaire George Soros. The Green for All 2008 annual report is also notable for the pictures of the powerful people who associated with Jones. They include House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former Vice President Al Gore.

    While the Open Society Institute was supporting Green for All in 2008, when Jones was running it, the Soros-funded organization was financially underwriting the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights when Jones was in charge of that group. The Open Society Institute gave the Ella Baker Center $151,800 in 2006 and $140,000 in 2007. Jones ran this group during the years 1996-2007. He then emerged as a senior fellow at the Soros-funded Center for American Progress.

    Other funders of the Green for All group included Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection, the Rockefeller family, Men’s Warehouse, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the New World Foundation, the Schwab Charitable Fund, the Streisand Foundation, the Service Employees International Union, and the Tides Center and Foundation.

    The 990 IRS forms of the Open Society Institute also disclose $560,000 in 2007 and $455,000 in 2006 to the Equal Justice Society, whose president, Eva Paterson, emerged as the major apologist for Jones when he came under attack for his communist background and anti-American statements. Paterson, who said that she hired Jones at the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area, wrote a column for the Huffington Post about how Glenn Beck, one of Jones’ major critics, was allegedly “fabricating” his attacks on Jones.

    “Beck has said repeatedly that Van is some kind of a mysterious ‘czar,’ accountable to no one but the President,” she said. “A simple Internet search shows that this claim is false. A March 10, 2009, press release announced that Van was hired by the Chair of the White House Council on Environmental Quality-to work on her staff as a ‘special advisor.’ In other words, Van is within the normal White House chain of command, reporting to an office confirmed by the United States Senate, just like most White House staffers. Media outlets sometimes use the ‘czar’ shorthand. But the facts show that Van has no mysterious role or extra-constitutional powers.”

    In fact, that March10 release does not say that Jones was “hired” by the chair of the Council on Environmental Quality. It says that, “White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) Chair Nancy Sutley announced today that Van Jones will serve as Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at CEQ.”

    Sutley had a role in announcing the appointment, but not in making the hiring decision. This was confirmed when my Freedom of Information Act requests to the CEQ failed to disclose any documents about his hiring. Instead, the CEQ told me to contact the White House, which did not respond. We have subsequently learned that White House official Valerie Jarrett said that “we” had recruited Jones for his job at the CEQ. The “we” has never been identified but Jarrett is close to Barack and Michelle Obama.

    Paterson did report a piece of information that, if true, is startling. She said, “Beck has implied on two occasions that Van Jones and other Obama appointees were not vetted by the FBI. False. I was interviewed in my own office by an FBI agent, dutifully vetting Van. Yet another fabrication on the part of Mr. Beck.”

    If the FBI did investigate Jones’ background, we don’t know what the bureau discovered, and whether that information was taken into consideration or disregarded before he was hired by the White House. Jarrett, however, had said that the White House had been following Jones’ career for years.

    Josh Nelson, another advocate for Jones, wrote an ill-timed column for the Huffington Post entitled “I Stand With Van,” appearing on September 5, just hours before Jones submitted his resignation. He urged people to go to a standwithvan.com website to show their solidarity with Jones. One of the featured prominent endorsements of Jones came from Benjamin Todd Jealous, president and CEO of the NAACP.

    For those interested in finding out how a real communist got a White House job, the Van Jones scandal isn’t over. One of the most fascinating preliminary answers involves the George Soros connection. Why would an organization associated with someone who made billions of dollars by exploiting the global capitalist system want to underwrite the activities of a communist? We have previously noted that Soros has escaped press scrutiny because he has funded a variety of news media organizations, in addition to major elements of the Democratic Party. Soros was a major backer of Obama during the 2008 campaign.
    Impeach George Soros: Our Real President

    “Impeach George Soros: Our Real President,” declared one sign at the 9-12 march on Washington, D.C.

    Equally significant, Communist Party official Jarvis Tyner has written an article, “The persecution of Van Jones and the struggle for democracy,” defending Jones against the “racist and red baiting attack” that he blames on those to whom capitalism is a “cult-like religion.”

    In a case of what seems like strange bedfellows, this communist official approvingly quoted George Soros, supposedly a capitalist himself, as calling such people capitalist “fundamentalists.” But the communist praise of Soros makes perfect sense, in view of the fact that, in the words of the Washington Post, Jones “rose from near obscurity in the Oakland, Calif., grassroots organizing scene to the leader of a national movement to spur the green economy.” The Post, of course, neglects to mention-but Tyner must fully understand-that Jones made his mark in part by using Soros money and Soros connections-before his past finally caught up with him.

    Despite the forced resignation of Jones, Tyner is more determined than ever to support Obama. “It’s time for action,” Tyner went on to say. “Contact your representative and let them know what you think. Support the local demarcations candle light vigils, demonstrations and house gatherings being sponsored by Move on and Organizing for America.”

    MoveOn.org is another Soros-funded organization, while Organizing for America is the official successor to the Obama for President campaign and continues to organize people to support the Obama agenda.

    In an article in Political Affairs, the CPUSA publication, Tyner says that Obama is not a socialist but “is heading in a positive direction” and “the left and progressive forces are linked to Obama’s destiny.”

    The interesting development is that today’s “progressive” forces don’t need funding from Moscow anymore. They have George Soros. The communists know this, even if most of the public does not.

  175. “Ms. Pelosi, who seldom displays emotion, seemed to choke back tears as she recalled the violence in San franciso so many years ago . . . ”

    I’m paraphrasing but the TONE of the reports is SYMPATHETIC and SUPPORTIVE.

    I could SCREAM when I remember how they ravaged HRC for showing the slightest hint of emiotion.

    The hypocrisy is sickeningly stunning!

  176. basil,

    It’s perfect. They can no longer say he hasn’t entered the race controversy. He just stepped into it up to his scraggly neck.

  177. I posted the above Kincaid article for two reasons. We have to bear in mind the research sent to Beck has to be impervious to recantation. If Beck is willing to put his credibility on the line for us, his pronouncements have to stand up to scrutiny and cross-examination. For now, he is the only one out there taking hefty shots at the BO Administration.

    My second point is this… Jones rehire. Jones being rehired by another government agency is like playing wack-a-mole.. There was a missed opportunity there. Knocking them down is just not enough, they have to be knocked out of play not in a bad way just use who they are and what they stand for if we are to succeed in stopping the Soros/Obama advancement.

    Jones new job and title: ““White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) Chair Nancy Sutley announced today that Van Jones will serve as Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at CEQ.”

  178. Mrs. Smith,

    The kincaid article looks interesting.

    I will read after I get back from covering a local motorcycle festival.
    (I can’t think of much I like less than gratutiously loud noise and the smell of gas fumes except for MoBO).

  179. “Jones new job and title: ““White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) Chair Nancy Sutley announced today that Van Jones will serve as Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at CEQ.”

    ———————-

    How the heck is this possible?

  180. Basil, best hope it is a windy day and you are upwind of the fumes…

    lata-

    JanH..

    I know, we won’t see any fanfare connected to Jones new position headlining in the newspaper anytime soon.

  181. How the heck is this possible?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The WH must be growing green mold around the arches from the stench of rife corruption permeating it’s white overcoat.

    I wish they’d take a poll.

    “If you had a choice, which would you take: Blow-Job or the Screwing of America?”

    Should be a no brainer-

  182. # JanH Says:
    September 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    So was this a back room deal so he would go quietly?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He’s a trusted Soros employee thats about all we need to know. But what is Gore doing in the mix? unbelievable-

  183. They truly have NO FEAR.

    Jones’ rehire still within the administration, Axelrod (Rhambo) successfully learnng on Duval Patrick for reversing law in order to seat Kennedy replacement, throwing Poland (and all allies, really) under the bus, BHO administration declaring war on California’s farmers, and Soros’ known deals with GE, et al over Russian deal only proves the complete and utter boldness, in-your-face “whatcha-gonna-do-about-it” schoolyard bully that is Obama and his Chicago Combine thugs embody.

    We can only pray that Beck, Hannity and others have their arsenal ready to counter what bump The One gets from his Sunday talk-show blitz. Bringing in militant MO to strong-arm women into submission over heathcare is nothing short of Serena Williams. This “outright mean country”, according to MO is fixing to “get served” on a break-point, for sure. She may as well be looking in the eyes of the American public, like Serena did the seated ref. And yes, she does intend to “shove this effin’ deathcare down our effin’ throats”, just as Serena bullied those who dared to correct her.

    Shock and awe details trotted out daily is what we need from Beck, Hannity, and Rush right now. I pray whistleblowers are coming forth under the cover of dark and outing the likes of ACORN, SEIU, and the Soros-based “layers upon layers” of corruption. The only ammunition we, the American people have right now is The Truth. The only way to secure the truth is for the decent citizens of D.C., Chicago, SF, and points in between to decide to save our country. I am convinced there are those “in the know” who absolutely can save this country. The question is – how brave and savvy are they in making their way to those who can sound the alarms? Make no mistake – the forces of good and evil are among us. And yes, Hal Lindsey, you are right – Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth.

  184. A far as the CIA, they need their own “mutiny on the bounty”. Never thought it was too smart for BHO to go after former Justice Dept. attorneys, thus trying to harm undercover CIA agents. I mean, really, that’s about the most dumbass thing I’ve ever heard. The CIA needs to have Deep Throats coming out of the proverbial woodwork, from all corners of the globe. They have more knowledge about the workings of the government and what’s at stake. Covert can work both ways, n’est pas?

  185. curiosityhasme Says:
    September 18th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    They truly have NO FEAR.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, n’est pas.

    “I am convinced there are those “in the know” who absolutely can save this country. The question is – how brave and savvy are they in making their way to those who can sound the alarms? Make no mistake – the forces of good and evil are among us. And yes, Hal Lindsey, you are right – Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth.”

    I am convinced as well there are those closeby that are getting fed-up with seeing the American dream going up in smoke for the sake of an insane, ruthless businessman’s warped idea of what America should look like through his eyes. Hillary is tuff as nails. If Hillary can take it… I hope she stays where she is until some progress is made. Without her presence, we are truly lost.

  186. JanH Says:

    September 18th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
    “Jones new job and title: ““White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) Chair Nancy Sutley announced today that Van Jones will serve as Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at CEQ.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    If Jones “had to go” because he was an embarrassment to himself and the administration, then rehiring him is an embarrassment strictly for the WH. It reveals them to be bait-and-switch con artists.

    They continue to squander their credibility until there is not one shred left.

  187. Just on Fox, SOS Clinton agrees with the Obama administration in stopping the missile shields in Europe. Well we knew she would back him. At this point, she can’t do anything else. She did say that the dynamics have changed, well I guess so, Bambi drug his feet in making Iran mind to the point that they probably already has the bomb and Russia just sent them a boat load of short and medium range missles. I expect this giveaway was to assure their help in contending with Iran. Obama did this all by himself, waiting, waiting and waiting until they were nuclear, and now their having to figure out what to do. Get Russia to help. We can really trust those guys.

    JanH, If you out there, we all need to pray for Israel. Here it is there New Years day and such terrible news for them with the missile shield and that awful report.

    curiosityhasme, well if you want to cripple the intel comming into this country you mess with the CIA. THat keeps them off their game.

    In due time we will see the evilness of this man, and so will Hillary.

    Bomb, Bomb Bomb , Bomb Bomb bomb IRAN……. NOW!!!

  188. and doing so (rehiring VJ) will only open the floodgates of criticism to resume, which is presumably what Obama and Emanual wanted to avoid when they asked VJ to request time to “spend with his family”.

    They are a flinchy, unconfident bunch.

  189. (Newsmax) Soros Gives $5M to Liberal Healthcare Group

    Monday, August 10, 2009

    Billionaire George Soros is weighing in on the U.S. healthcare battle, pledging $5 million to a coalition of left-wing groups seeking the so-called public option socialized medicine.

    But activists are disappointed that the group Soros quietly contributed to Health Care For America Now, the leading coalition of pro-reform groups, unions and providers hasn’t been nearly as aggressive in pushing Democrats toward the public option.

    The Soros pledge is noteworthy, because both sides will seize on it. The right will say it shows the real astroturfing is coming from the pro-reform side billionaire bogeyman Soros is bankrolling this fight!

    �The left will cite the donation to demand that HCAN show real results,� the blog continued. �Some on the left, such as blogger Jane Hamsher, have been asking why heavily bankrolled HCAN hasn�t been able to secure more commitments from Dem members of Congress to stand firm behind a public option.�

  190. The people of Iran know the bombs will begin dropping soon, as they are rioting again today. I feel for those people with their mullahs in charge. We also have our Mullah to deal with here in the US.

  191. Looks to me like after I heard Biden speak, they aren’t worried about a bomb hitting the U.S., they are worried about one hitting maybe Israel, or maybe Iraq with all of our GI’s there. Ask yourself what would happen if they loaded two medium range missiles with a nuc, one headed for Israel and one head for either/or Afnamistan or Iraq? They could take out American in one full swipe. All of our GI’s are in the middle east. Take out our Army, and Bambi/Soros can take over this country and turn it into a dictatorship of this country.

  192. Finally,

    Hillary on Health Care: Take Two Aspirin
    September 18, 2009 12:52 PM

    A rare step into the health care debate from the Secretary of State – an issue with which, she acknowledged laughingly, she has her “own acquaintance.”

    At a Brookings forum this morning, Clinton predicted that health care would pass this year and drew a laugh when she prescribed “two aspirin” and a good night’s sleep to calm the raucous debate over the issue.

    “Will it be everything any one person would want? No, of course not. That’s not the nature of the compromise required in a legislative setting. But I am — I’m quite optimistic. You know, we really have an opportunity now to produce an outcome that will significantly improve the important aspects of health-care reform: controlling costs, increasing quality, expanding coverage,” Clinton said.

    ABC’s Kirit Radia reports from the event, Clinton said she believes Americans have learned more about health care since the failed attempts in 1993-1994.

    “More people know what’s at stake, more people have seen us try other things. I mean, I remember one of the arguments that was made 15 years ago, ‘You know, let the HMOs handle it; we’ll do something called managed competition; that will control costs; that will eventually cover everybody’…. And of course, you know, that was not to be,” she said.

    “So I think that there’s just much more real-world experience that people from all walks of life have that, in the absence of what is being proposed, costs will continue to go up for those of us who are insured, coverage will continue to shrink for those of us who are insured, the numbers of people who have access to any form of insurance will continue to diminish; and therefore, I think we will be successful,” Clinton added.

    blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/09/hillary-on-health-care-take-two-aspirin.html

    there is also an embedded video on the site.

  193. Happy New Year to my fellow Jewish posters and to all of you. I pray that the coming yr will be better for all, and that Hillary/Bill will somehow rein this clown in or leave his administration. What he has done to Israel, as well as our Euro allies, is a crime. What has has done domestically has caused more racial unrest and hate than we have seen in decades.

  194. Explain how celebrities (such as Sean Penn) can observe THE last independent news organization currently being shut down in Venequela , and support the likes of Chavez? I will never understand the mindset of these “liberal” zealots, who espouse freedom and equality whhile supporting tyrannical dictators. How can politicians who extol the virtues of the likes of Castro, garner one single vote? And, these celebrity news organizations, such as TMZ and others who glorify anything supported by these mindless robots are disgusting with the groveling displayed online and on air. They all deserve to be led around by the rings in their nose, eyebrows, ears, navals, for the rest of their lives for being such cowards and not having an original thought. Makes Jon Voight look like John Wayne. Blows my ever lovin’ mind.

  195. CONTIINUED TREND OF COURTING ENEMIES AND DISSING FRIENDS:

    WSJ piece contains this quotable paragraph:

    “The European switcheroo continues Mr. Obama’s trend of courting adversaries while smacking allies. His Administration has sought warmer ties with Iran, Burma, North Korea, Russia and even Venezuela. But it has picked trade fights with Canada and Mexico, sat on trade treaties with Colombia and South Korea, battled Israel over West Bank settlements, ignored Japan in deciding to talk with North Korea, and sanctioned Honduras for its sin of resisting the encroachments of Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez. ”

    online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574418563346840666.html

    Obama’s Missile Offense
    =================
    (It’s better these days to be
    a U.S. adversary than its friend.)

    President Obama promised he would win America friends where, under George W. Bush, it had antagonists. The reality is that the U.S. is working hard to create antagonists where it previously had friends.

    That’s one conclusion to draw from President Obama’s decision yesterday to scrap a missile-defense agreement the Bush Administration negotiated with Poland and the Czech Republic. Both governments took huge political risks—including the ire of their former Russian overlords—in order to accommodate the U.S., which wanted the system to defend against a possible Iranian missile attack. Don’t expect either government to follow America’s lead anytime soon.

    “If the Administration approaches us in the future with any request, I would be strongly against it,” Jan Vidim, a conservative Czech lawmaker who voted for the system, told the Associated Press.

    The White House justifies its decision by claiming to have new intelligence showing that Iran’s long-range missile capabilities are not as advanced as previously believed. Instead, it intends to upgrade and deploy currently available missile interceptors that are useful mainly for intercepting short- and medium-range missiles, where, it says, Iranian capability “is developing more rapidly than previously projected.”

    We’re all for deploying interceptors to stop Iranian missiles of every range. But the Administration’s argument is difficult to credit, not least because our sources told us as early as February that the Administration was prepared to abandon those sites—which is to say, well before the allegedly new intelligence became available.

    It’s also hard to square the intelligence community’s sanguine assessment with Iran’s successful launch of the solid-fuel Sejil missile in May. With an estimated range of 1,560 miles, the Sejil could deliver a one-ton payload as far as Warsaw. That cannot be comforting when the International Atomic Energy Agency is now saying that Iran has “sufficient information” to build an atomic bomb and will also “overcome problems” involved in its delivery system.

    The Administration’s likelier motive for scrapping the interceptors is that it hopes to win Russia’s vote at the U.N. Security Council for tougher sanctions on Iran. Maybe the Russians have secretly agreed to such a quid pro quo, though publicly they were quick to deny it following yesterday’s decision.

    And as Russian opposition leader Garry Kasparov has noted, Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin benefits by keeping the Iranian crisis on a low boil, because the threat of a Middle East crisis drives energy prices up while putting U.S. interests at risk. Russia also likes spooning out dollops of diplomatic help at the U.N. in exchange for material Western concessions. This time, the concession was missile defense. Next time, perhaps, the West can be seduced into trading away the pro-Western government of Georgia, or even Ukraine.

    That’s hardly an idle fear. It has been the tragic fate of the countries of Eastern and Central Europe to be treated as bargaining chips in the designs of their more powerful neighbors. Their inclusion in NATO and EU was supposed to have buried that history, but Russia’s new assertiveness, including its willingness to cut off energy supplies in winter and invade Georgia last year, is reviving powerful fears. Officials in Warsaw surely noticed that President Obama cancelled the missile system 70 years to the day that the Soviet Union invaded Poland as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Nazi Germany.

    The U.S. decision also undermines the credibility of the U.S. nuclear defense umbrella. The Bush Administration sought to develop a global defense posture in part to reassure allies that they don’t need their own nuclear deterrent, even as rogue regimes seek nuclear arms and the missiles to deliver them. America’s Europe reversal tells other countries that they can’t rely on the U.S. so it’s best to follow the Israeli path and develop their own weapon and defenses. For that matter, this also makes the U.S. East Coast less safe; the ground-based system in Alaska and California covers the East, but barely. The Polish and Czech sites were to provide added protection.

    The European switcheroo continues Mr. Obama’s trend of courting adversaries while smacking allies. His Administration has sought warmer ties with Iran, Burma, North Korea, Russia and even Venezuela. But it has picked trade fights with Canada and Mexico, sat on trade treaties with Colombia and South Korea, battled Israel over West Bank settlements, ignored Japan in deciding to talk with North Korea, and sanctioned Honduras for its sin of resisting the encroachments of Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez.

    We’re reminded of the rueful quip, by scholar Bernard Lewis, that the problem with becoming friends with the U.S. is that you never know when it will shoot itself in the foot.

  196. CHARLIE COOK SEES DEMS FALTERING…

    Money quote: “Some Capitol Hill Democrats are accusing President Obama of pushing too hard; others argue that he has not provided enough leadership or pushed hard enough. ”

    nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cookreport.php

    Dems Should Focus On The Color Purple
    Blue-state Democrats are showing little awareness that their party has a problem.
    by Charlie Cook

    Saturday, Sept. 19, 2009

    In June 1953, cartoonist Walt Kelly had one of his characters say the immortal words, “We have met the enemy and he is us.” Congressional Democrats would be wise to take this line to heart.

    Some Capitol Hill Democrats are accusing President Obama of pushing too hard; others argue that he has not provided enough leadership or pushed hard enough. Although Obama has indeed made some critical miscalculations and missteps this year, the Democratic Congress has significantly damaged itself. And its members — not Obama — will be the ones on the ballot in November 2010.

    Republicans have finally come up with an organization to do the public opinion and message testing that Stan Greenberg and James Carville’s Democracy Corps has long done for Democrats. The consortium, dubbed Resurgent Republic, produced a report last week based on focus groups conducted last month among independent voters in Florida, Montana, Nevada, Ohio, and Virginia by five prominent GOP pollsters. The report, written by former Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie and a sixth top poller, Whit Ayres, found a reservoir of goodwill among independents toward Obama — if not his policies — but those warm feelings did not extend to Congress.

    I am becoming convinced, based on this and other research, that although many independent voters are disappointed in specific things that Obama has done, they still hope that he will do well and believe that he might. To be sure, red America has already given Obama the thumbs down. And blue America just wishes he would be more liberal. But it’s purple America, the independents who voted for Democrats in the 2006 midterm election by an 18-point margin, that makes the biggest difference right now. Most House Democrats live in blue America and show little awareness that their party has a problem. However, the Democrats’ majority is built on a layer of 54 seats that the party picked up in 2006 and 2008 that are largely in purple — or even red — America. Democrats ought to keep in mind that 84 of their current House members represent districts won by President Bush in 2004 or John McCain in 2008.

    A whopping 48 of those Democrats — eight more than the size of their party’s majority — are from districts that voted for both Bush and McCain. That America is very different from the Democratic base in blue America, and it sees many major issues very differently.

    Resurgent Republic’s findings corroborate a growing view that the cumulative impact of Democratic missteps has reached a critical mass, with Obama receiving some damage and with Democrats in Congress and the Democratic Party receiving much more. Critics point to the Troubled Asset Relief Program; the takeovers of banks and auto companies; an economic stimulus package that they see as ineffectual and stuffed with pork; and climate-change and health care reform efforts as all being contributing factors to Democrats’ decline.

    The 17-point advantage that Democrats enjoyed in the January Gallup Poll (when “leaners” were included) shrank to 5 points in August. Their edge on the generic congressional ballot test has vanished, according to most national polls. For three years, Democrats enjoyed high single-digit or low double-digit leads on this question — a very good indicator of which direction (and how hard) the political winds are blowing as a congressional election nears.

    What we are seeing is an electorate growing just as disgusted with the Democratic majority as it did with the Republican one in 2006. The mounting ethics problems of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., combined with ongoing allegations about House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman John Murtha, D-Pa., and others on his panel threaten to make matters still worse for their party.

    Sure, November 2010 is a long way off, and the economy may well be substantially better by then. But Democratic lawmakers, who must face the voters two years before Obama does, should remember that the public’s attitudes tend to eventually harden. Think cement.

  197. DID PUTIN CONTRIBUTE THE MAXIMUM TO MYBARACKOBAMA.COM???

    There’s at least one person who likes Obama’s plan to “rework” the missile shield (aside from the NYT). Seems like Vlad “The Impaler” Putin couldn’t be happier that we have a Wuss-in-Chief.

    W
    voanews.com/english/2009-09-18-voa11.cfm

    Putin Lauds Obama for Scrapping Missile Defense System in Europe

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in Moscow, 11 Sep 2009
    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin says U.S. President Barack Obama’s decision to scrap plans for a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic is “correct and brave.”

    Mr. Putin Friday said he hopes other measures that would improve ties will follow.

    President Obama Thursday said he is replacing a planned missile defense system in central Europe with what he calls a new approach for defending the United States and its NATO allies from a missile threat from Iran.

    Russia had fiercely opposed the earlier planned system as a threat to its security.

    Some U.S. Republican leaders and East European politicians have criticized the change as misguided.

    Friday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States is not shelving missile defenses but implementing a more comprehensive defense system. She insisted the United States is not walking away from its allies.

    Thursday, U.S. Republican Senator John McCain called the decision a step backwards at a time when Eastern European countries are increasingly wary of what he calls “renewed Russian adventurism.”

    Some Czech and Polish officials said the development will not endanger the security of their countries. But others, such as former Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, whose government negotiated the missile deployment accord, said the decision threatens Czech security.

    Poland’s Foreign Minister Radek Sikorsky called the timing of the announcement clumsy, noting that it came on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of his country during World War Two.

    In his announcement, Mr. Obama said the change follows a new assessment of Iran’s missile program. The missile defense system planned for central Europe was supposed to counter an attack from Iranian intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    But White House officials say the Iranian ICBM threat is developing more slowly than previously thought, while the threat from Iranian short and medium-range missiles is developing faster than projected.

    Former U.S. President George W. Bush first proposed building a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic in 2006. Russia immediately condemned the move and threatened to place its own missiles on the European Union borders if Washington carried out its plans.

  198. When I read Charlie Cook I am utterly amazed at how such pedestrian, self evident and ponderously slow analysis can claim the accolades it does, or why people defer to it. Perhaps they are subconsciously comparing it to the kind of crap you get on Politico from the likes of dullard Ben Smith, or the little racist ratboy Chuck Todd, which make almost any attempt at political analysis look like Einstein in comparison .

  199. Wbboei, it is surprising that vapid commentary from Big Media gets attention and accolades. Little wonder that less and less people care what Big Media publishes/broadcasts.

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