Celebrate 9/11: Boo Obama Lustily

Time was when Democrats loved a good protest and booed lying politicians. No longer. Now Dimocrats in power demand elected officials be treated like kings and queens.

Time was when Democrats loved a good protest and did not give a hoot as to the venue. Democrats would either complicity wink or silently cheer protests which interrupted the sacred mass at Catholic cathedrals and chortled as shoes were thrown at George W. Bush in foreign countries. No longer.

Now Dimocrats are the establishment in power and they demand obedience, respect and subservience. Now Dimocrats are the establishment in power and they demand revolting protesters know their place and not disturb “sacred” venues such as the increasingly corrupt congress.

The other night, at lying Obama’s publicity stunt speech before congress, a Republican dared speak the truth and Dimocrats swooned at the insolence of spoken truth. A few days before, prissy PINOs whined against those darned Blue Dogs, but after the boos directed at Obama bin lyin’ the very same PINOs raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to elect a Blue Dog challenging the damned booer of Obama bin lyin’.

Dumbass PINOs raised money for a Blue Dog because they were so upset that Obama was called the liar which he undoubtedly is.

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Hypocrite Dimocrat Queen Carol Shea-Porter is an example of the Dimocratic Hypocrite Aristocrats which now demand subservience of those they rule in America. It was not always thus:

The irony is, of course, that Shea-Porter used to be a “tea-bagger” on the left. She stalked then-congressman Jeb Bradley at town hall-style meetings the 1st District Republican incumbent held throughout his district.

Shea-Porter’s passion against the Iraq war and other Bush policies made her a darling of the liberal throng that came out to rock the house in September 2006 and deliver her a stunning blowout victory over former House Democratic Leader Jim Craig, of Manchester.

Now Dimocrat Aristocrat hypocrite Queen Carol Shea-Porter throws out those who dare question her majesty:



The hypocrite Dimocrat Aristocrat Queen Carol Shea-Porter used to do what she now denounces.

Hypocrite Dimocrat Aristocrat Queen Carol Shea-Porter joined Hypocrite Dimocrats in the House of Representatives because of her protests at town halls. Hypocrite Dimocrat Aristocrat Queen Carol Shea-Porter joined Dimocrats who lustily booed George W. Bush in 2005 during the State of the Union address before both houses of congress.

Back then Democrats booed lustily when George W. Bush lied.



In 2005 when Democrats booed a lying president Republican protested the outrage. Democrats defended the booing of a lying president in the now “sacred” halls of congress. Indeed, Democrats and their allies reminded Republicans of a time when Republicans booed the great President Bill Clinton.

Dimocrats who should remember the booed Bill Clinton and the booed George W. Bush now pretend to be shocked at such unaristocratic behavior towards their Pope Obama. Joe Biden was “embarrassed” and said “It demeaned the institution.”

Rahm Emanuel screeched “No president has ever been treated like that. Ever.”

Rahm of course is lying. Rahm was there when Bill and when George W. were lustily booed.

When George W. Bush was booed and Republicans complained, Democrats reminded Republicans of the once booed Bill Clinton. Democratic ally Media Matters researched the boos against Bill Clinton:

“Pundits called Dems’ reaction during Bush address “unprecedented,” but Republicans booed Clinton

February 04, 2005 6:38 pm ET

Media figures have falsely claimed that Democrats’ audible disapproval of President Bush’s misleading claim in his February 2 State of the Union address that Social Security will be “exhausted and bankrupt” in 2042 was “unprecedented.” In fact, Republicans routinely booed and hissed during President Clinton’s State of the Union addresses.

Many hosts and pundits suggested the Democrats’ reaction was the first of its kind:

  • TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed. [ABC, Nightline, 2/2/05; Koppel’s panel consisted of former Bush adviser Mary Matalin, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein, and former Clinton speechwriter Michael Waldman]

Media Matters listed the misinformation which came from CBS’ John Roberts, (“I’ve never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address.”); Joe Scarborough (“After the Democrats booed and hissed, Republicans were on the floor saying, you know, we never once did that to Clinton. So every time he would talk about Social Security, the roars got a little louder. And they got behind their president.”); Bob Barr (“It will be a very, very difficult battle as we saw by the unprecedented and, I think, highly improper virtual booing of the president when he simply said that the system is going to be bankrupt and the time is now to fix it.”); and Joe Watkins “Did you hear it? Certainly not the polite protocol usually practiced when a president speaks to Congress. If a Democrat one day delivers a State of the Union address, I hope the Republicans won’t lower themselves to such a disrespectful level. I hope last night’s behavior by a few lawmakers doesn’t set a new precedent, that both parties can agree to remain civil, even when voicing disagreements.”).

But indeed Bill Clinton had been lustily booed by Republicans. Media Matters again:

PAUL BEGALA (CNN host): Let me correct your history — 1993, I was with President Bill Clinton in that House chamber when he addressed a joint session of Congress. And Republicans heckled him when he cited Congressional Budget Office statistics about the deficit. [CNN, Crossfire, 2/3/05]

  • JOHN GIBSON (FOX News host): Maryanne Marsh, what did you think of those audible jeers, boos, for the president? It sounded a little like the House of Commons: that grumbling that comes from the back-benchers when they don’t like something [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair said. That isn’t very common for state of the union speeches, is it?

    MARYANNE MARSH (Democratic strategist): I don’t ever remember hearing it, and was very surprised. But I have to say at least the good news is the Democrats are fighting and they’re on offense. And they’re more united than they’ve ever been against George Bush and the Republicans. [FOX News, The Big Story with John Gibson, 2/3/05]

  • In addition to the 1993 State of the Union, during which, as Begala pointed out, Republicans heckled Clinton, they also voiced their disapproval in three other Clinton State of the Union addresses, which were presumably attended by then-members of Congress Scarborough and Barr:

    • “Clinton’s proposal to expand Medicare to allow Americans as young as 55 to buy into the system drew shouts of “no” and some boos from Republicans during his speech.” [Chicago Tribune, 1/28/98]
    • “Only once did they unmistakably and collectively show their disapproval — when Clinton spoke disparagingly of a GOP-sponsored constitutional amendment to balance the budget. Many Republicans hissed and some booed.” [Los Angeles Times, 2/5/97]
    • “The upheaval wrought by the Republican election landslide was visible throughout the president’s State of the Union address — from the moment Speaker Newt Gingrich took the gavel to the striking silence that often greeted Clinton from the GOP. At one point, Republicans even booed. About 20 of them left as Clinton went on and on for an hour and 20 minutes.” [Associated Press, 1/24/95]

    As Media Matters for America has noted, the assertion that Social Security will be “exhausted and bankrupt” in 2042 is misleading, since Bush’s own Social Security board of trustees reported in 2004 that “[p]resent tax rates would be sufficient to pay 73 percent of scheduled benefits” after 2042 and “68 percent of scheduled benefits in 2078.”

    That was then. That was before Dimocrats fixed nominations. Now Dimocrats think they are all part of the Kennedy dynasty which demands automatic bows, not boos.

    Dimocrats now think they are aristocrats and demand the serfs bow their heads. Dimocrats do not want their boob booed and they will denounce hypocritically anyone who dares raise their head in protest.

    What has happened to the great Democratic Party? It died in Denver. Now the Dimocrats are the party of establishment aristocrats and race-baiters and gay-bashers and sexists and misogynists.

    Obama Hopium addled Camile Paglia recently discussed the Dimocrat Aristocrats:

    As an Obama supporter and contributor, I am outraged at the slowness with which the standing army of Democratic consultants and commentators publicly expressed discontent with the administration’s strategic missteps this year. [snip] Had more Democrats protested, the administration would have felt less arrogantly emboldened to jam through a cap-and-trade bill whose costs have made it virtually impossible for an alarmed public to accept the gargantuan expenses of national healthcare reform. (Who is naive enough to believe that Obama’s plan would be deficit-neutral? Or that major cuts could be achieved without drastic rationing?)

    By foolishly trying to reduce all objections to healthcare reform to the malevolence of obstructionist Republicans, Democrats have managed to destroy the national coalition that elected Obama and that is unlikely to be repaired. [snip]

    Why did it take so long for Democrats to realize that this year’s tea party and town hall uprisings were a genuine barometer of widespread public discontent and not simply a staged scenario by kooks and conspirators? [snip]

    Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers (one reason for the hypocritical absence of tort reform in the healthcare bills). Weirdly, given their worship of highly individualistic, secularized self-actualization, such professionals are as a whole amazingly credulous these days about big-government solutions to every social problem. They see no danger in expanding government authority and intrusive, wasteful bureaucracy. This is, I submit, a stunning turn away from the anti-authority and anti-establishment principles of authentic 1960s leftism.

    How has “liberty” become the inspirational code word of conservatives rather than liberals? [snip]

    But affluent middle-class Democrats now seem to be complacently servile toward authority and automatically believe everything party leaders tell them. Why? Is it because the new professional class is a glossy product of generically institutionalized learning? Independent thought and logical analysis of argument are no longer taught. Elite education in the U.S. has become a frenetic assembly line of competitive college application to schools where ideological brainwashing is so pandemic that it’s invisible. The top schools, from the Ivy League on down, promote “critical thinking,” which sounds good but is in fact just a style of rote regurgitation of hackneyed approved terms (“racism, sexism, homophobia”) when confronted with any social issue. The Democratic brain has been marinating so long in those clichés that it’s positively pickled.

    Barack Obama deserved to be booed. If there were real progressives in the congress that night they would have thrown shoes at Obama. Obama lied repeatedly and real Democrats would have booed and not left the job to Republicans.

    Obama has been lying and flim-flaming:

    So it was throughout this 47- minute nationally televised monument to presidential flimflam. Sometimes the prevarications were so obvious that even the president’s most ardent supporters – like the news staff of The New York Times – had to concede that he was playing fast and loose with the facts. For instance, the Times quoted Obama’s repeating of his familiar claim that “if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance, nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.”

    “That is technically true,” the Times carefully admitted, “but there is a real possibility that existing policies could change as a result of the legislation. The government, for instance, would set new standards, and employers that already offer insurance would have to bring their plans into compliance.” In other words, when, as is inevitable, the cost of providing health insurance is more than the federal fine Obama seeks for not providing it, companies will drop their employee plans, forcing millions of people into the government-run health care system against their will.

    Similarly, Obama claimed “most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system, a system that is currently full of waste and abuse.” If $675 billion equals “most” of the $900 billion Obama says his proposal would cost, why wait to get those savings? Finally, there is abortion and illegal immigrants. Obama said “no federal dollars” will fund abortions under his proposal and “the reforms I am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.” If Obama truly believes that, then he will have no objection when Democrats in Congress reverse their previous votes barring such provisions from the legislation when they were proposed by Republicans. In short, did the president sleep through August?

    Obama bin lyin’:

    The hard part, in terms of both policy and politics, is finding a way to pay for the expansion in coverage. And on that most contentious issue, unfortunately, Obama argued that Congress could cover most of the cost by attacking waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid — a pain-free path that’s as unrealistic as it is alluring.[snip]

    Still, the president’s comments about the savings available in Medicare were disingenuous, as was his assertion that a new tax on insurers would lead them to “provide greater value for the money” instead of simply passing the cost on to policyholders. Obama will have to come up with a more complete approach to paying for reform as the legislation moves forward. He claimed the plan as his own with this speech, but he left some of the hardest questions unanswered.

    Obama bin lyin’:

    “Hubris-laden charlatans” was the way a recent e-mail from a reader characterized the Obama administration. That phrase seems especially appropriate for the Charlatan-in-Chief, Barack Obama, whose speech to a joint session of Congress was both a masterpiece of rhetoric and a shameless fraud.

    To tell us, with a straight face, that he can insure millions more people without adding to the already skyrocketing deficit, is world-class chutzpa and an insult to anyone’s intelligence. To do so after an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office has already showed this to be impossible reveals the depths of moral bankruptcy behind the glittering words.

    Obama bin lyin’ and flim-flamming. Get the shoes:

    “Details Still Lacking On Obama Proposal White House Unclear on How Some Far-Reaching Goals Would Be Met.”

    One day after President Obama pitched his plan for comprehensive health-care reform to a joint session of Congress, administration officials struggled Thursday to detail how he would achieve his goal of extending coverage to tens of millions of uninsured Americans without increasing the deficit.[snip]

    The 10-year, $900 billion proposal Obama envisions borrows heavily from concepts circulating on Capitol Hill, but there was little evidence that the broad ideas are sufficient to break a congressional logjam.

    After declining for months to identify himself with the details of emerging legislation, the president for the first time Wednesday embraced a set of ideas as “my plan.” But the White House released scant specifics on legislation advertised as including new taxes, changes in malpractice law, a new national high-risk insurance pool, a commission on eliminating Medicare fraud, and tax credits for individual consumers and small businesses that cannot afford insurance.

    Let’s all remember what Big Media will not say: The Obama “plan” does not exist. Obama is lying that he has a “plan”. There is no Obama “plan”. It is all a lie. There are plenty of Obama words but no “plan” as the word has been understood before Obama. There is no Obama legislation which codifies the nonexistent Obama “plan”.

    Big Media is also silent on the quiet “boos” from legislators:

    After a White House meeting with Obama, Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) voiced concerns that the most prominent health-care proposals fall short.

    “We all understand that we want to move toward universal coverage, but I don’t think we’re focusing enough on costs,” he said.

    Although virtually every Democrat found something to like in the president’s 47-minute address, the interpretations of what he meant varied widely, suggesting more difficult negotiations ahead. On the controversial question of whether to form a new public insurance option, many liberals characterized what was widely interpreted as Obama’s neutral stance to be unwavering support for the idea.

    “We were pleased you explicitly expressed your support for a public option as a central piece of achieving true reform,” leaders of the House Progressive Caucus wrote in a letter to Obama.

    Ways and Means Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) said the bill that will be sent to the House floor for a vote will have a public option “of course.” But other high-ranking Democrats suggested the idea could be left out.

    That is the “Pretend” strategy Dimocrats and PINOs have embraced – which we wrote about yesterday in Pretend Progressives Pretend. That is what the once great Democrats and progressives are reduced to – games of pretend.

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    On this September 11, 2009 we will rejoice in the democracy the terrorists (now a banned word in Obama-ville) reviled. We will celebrate the diversity of our culture and our people. We will celebrate our citizens, even the gay ones reviled by Obama and terrorists. We will throw (symbolic if not actual) shoes at the television every time Obama makes an appearance to lie once again. We will celebrate at women in pantsuits and Bikinis. We will celebrate at those who enjoy liquor or maybe even a marijuana toke. We will celebrate at all our religions and all our houses of worship. We will celebrate for every politician ever booed in this country, even the ones we like. We will celebrate the Tea Party people who will protest tomorrow at the nation’s capital. We will celebrate protest. We will celebrate ourselves. We will celebrate the honor we had to be the first Hillary support site to speak without fear starting back in early 2007. We will celebrate all our sister websites who continue to speak out against the horror of Obama and the Dimocrats.

    We will celebrate democracy and freedom today.

    We will defend the rights of all to dissent and to speak their minds. But we will also condemn the Obama supporters who employed their democratic rights to inflict Obama on this nation. We will also condemn, while upholding their democratic rights, the Obama friends who on the Sunday after September 11, 2001 denounced America. We will condemn and denounce Barack Obama.



    We will celebrate democracy and freedom today. We will remember the day the planes hit with a celebration of dissent and protest and democracy and freedom. That is what the terrorists fear most. That is what Obama fears most.

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    364 thoughts on “Celebrate 9/11: Boo Obama Lustily

    1. WHAT A GREAT POST ADMIN.

      Just going to repost my last comment, full details at bottom of previous article.

      So lets see.

      Acorn has 11 workers arrested in Florida for election fraud.

      2 workers and an office investigated in Baltimore for advising how to run prostitution, tax fraud and probable child prostitution.

      Acorn opens its big mouth and says its isolated and lo and behold today, we have part 2.

      The big govt website has hung a 2nd ACORN out to dry by revealing a 2nd video, the office in Washington DC offered to also help set up a whorehouse, escape tax fraud.

      The hint today is, it is not the last office they have the goods on.

      WHY HAVE THEY STILL GOT FEDERAL FUNDING? THIS IS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR AND IT IS NOT ISOLATED.

    2. Megyn Kelly appeared on O’Reilly’s show Thursday about this the first tape in Balitmore. She said that they (Don’t know if she meant Fox or this couple) have been working on something for some time and it will be released soon and it will be something stunning.

      Beck also said something to the effect of “how high can you count” referring to possibly more tapes than just the two.

      The WH must be crapping themselves.

    3. whorehouse, escape tax fraud.
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      If they had better legal advice they would have set it up as a tax shelter.

    4. The WH must be crapping themselves.
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      There needs to be a nexus. At a minimum an investigation of the history of ACORN to remind the American People where Mr. Obama came from. I assum CNN, ABC and NBC are not reporting this, which would indicate they have no objection to theft of taxpayer money as long as it is being done by organizations that are tied to Obama. I wonder who in the White House gives through three corrupt networks their marching orders.

    5. Admin:

      Haven’t had a spare minute to read your new article.

      Here is something you may want to use on another day.

      Obama denying Illegal Immigrants Covered in Health Care Plan

      youtube.com/watch?v=M4caqw6bipc

      House Health Reform Bill will allow Illegal immigrants to receive
      Tax-Payer Funded Health Care

      h… w.. fairus.org/site/DocServer/2009_07_24_Analysis_Section_246_is_Ineffective_vFINAL.pdf?docID=3101

    6. I have to laugh, if the couple that were fake pimps/prostitute went to every Acorn office and got the same response, OMG, this would be some kind of embarrassment. It would definitely blow the lid off Acorn.

      Admin: Great article, It reminded me of the county convention I went to when the Obama thugs took over the meeting in the very same way, this time however its the white people. The speakers can’t talk and this is exactly the way our county convention was taken over and Obama came out on top after Hillary clearly won.

      I can’t even pull up Yahoo, theres a picture of the fraud on the front praying for the 19 muslim terrorists that died in those planes 8 years ago.

    7. wbboei, Oh hell, I shouldn’t opened a whore house instead of a beer joint, I would still be in business and woulda gota hell uv great tax exemption, Oh crap!

    8. Bravo, Admin!

      Yes there was a time. It was a time when you could be proud of the Democrats. But this is a different time. And these are not Democrats. They are an invading plague of wannabes who have taken democratic principles and thrown them under the bus. They have made a mockery of the party and dragged the party lower than ever before.

    9. moononpluto Says:

      September 9th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
      Well, this could be fun.

      From the Weekly Standard:
      Two sources have stated that Hillary Clinton is considering stepping down as Secretary of State this fall in order to run for Governor of New York.
      &&&&&&&&&

      RGB Times has it “on good authority” that Hillary will become manager of the NY Yankees. She can diversify her resume, make lots more than her current or other government jobs, and use this “executive experience” to ramp up for 2012.

    10. Wonderful post, Admin, especialy this part;

      ‘On this September 11, 2009 we will rejoice in the democracy the terrorists (now a banned word in Obama-ville) reviled. . . . .

      We will celebrate the honor we had to be the first Hillary support site to speak without fear starting back in early 2007. We will celebrate all our sister websites who continue to speak out against the horror of Obama and the Dimocrats.”

    11. “We will throw (symbolic if not actual) shoes at the television every time Obama makes an appearance to lie once again.”

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      We can also mail a pr of old shoes directly to the WH and flood the place with ole soles protesting lying heels. (Corny, I know. But couldn’t resist.)

      If the WH mail bags are filled with stinky old shoes instead of thrown by protesting Americans, he will get the message.

    12. wbboei, Oh hell, I shouldn’t opened a whore house instead of a beer joint, I would still be in business and woulda gota hell uv great tax exemption, Oh crap!
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      Don’t be too hard on yourself Confloyd. The whorehouse tax exemptions only work while bambi occupies the oval office. When there is a change in Administrations, we get respectful again and the action move to the airport mens rooms. The only business I can think of that can weather the storm of two dysfunctional groups of thugs is the money laundering business but even that aint perfect because you would have to put up with megalomaniacal doctor stangeloves like Soros.

    13. No, the WAshington DC Post Office will just throw protest stuff away, the WH will never hear about it.

      More to the point would be donations to Joe Wilson.

    14. I have to laugh, if the couple that were fake pimps/prostitute went to every Acorn office and got the same response, OMG, this would be some kind of embarrassment. It would definitely blow the lid off Acorn.
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      This was a clear case of entrapment. If a news organization can engage in it. Generally speaking, an entrapment occurs when the police commit one element of the crime. Here the actor was a news organization. Nevertheless, it is a 60 Minutes kind of journalism I am not keen on.

    15. “you would have to put up with megalomaniacal doctor stangeloves like Soros.”

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      He is strange, isn’t he? Soros continues to love reliving his boyhood, pilfering wallets and gold watches from the dead and spinning the spoils into $$$$ for his benefactor. In which case he has replaced his benefactor with himself and the dead people are financially wounded Americans.

    16. “Gotcha” journalism is what it is. Made Mike Wallace famous, but it’s more “gotcha’, than it is journalism imo…
      ACORN has other problems that are coming to light anyway…

    17. This was a clear case of entrapment. If a news organization can engage in it. Generally speaking, an entrapment occurs when the police commit one element of the crime. Here the actor was a news organization. Nevertheless, it is a 60 Minutes kind of journalism I am not keen on.

      …………………………………………………………

      Can’t agree on that. These guys went out of their way to help what they thought were criminals. They didnt bat an eyelid to prostitution, tax evasion or the trafficking of kids for gods know what. They openly wanted to help someone doing criminal activity. Its one thing to try and entrap someone into sex in a public place, but these guys at Acorn went to a whole new level of engaging advice against law enforcement officials and tax officials and against every american taxpayers.

      The money quote from the guys at the 2nd Acorn office was “just lie to the police and if they ask, we got your back”. What the hell does that say about the whole organisation.

    18. Camille Paglia’s article does well issuing a verbal lambasting to Democrats and Obama..

      When she’s on, she’s on-
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      turndownobama Says:
      September 11th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

      I think lining thousands of shoes on the sidewalk outside the WH gates and snapping a pic would do just fine.

      Wilson is going to be the folk hero who unseated Obama from his perch atop the American flag. No worries about Wilson. There are hundreds of donation sites across the web as we type.

      Drudge is already running several…

    19. ADMIN…”Obama bin lyin” – that is priceless…it should immediately be made into t-shirts, magnets, banners, under the Joker poster, everywhere, etc…

      (btw…i saw a magnet on a site that said “you’re lying” with the O logo in the middle)

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      JanH Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
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      Jan…the dims have become synonomis with the repubs…they are all corportists now…it is incestuous…the current democratic party…our ‘rebel’ days are gone…now it is all about agenda, money and power, donations…and the worst, CENSURESHIP…shut up and destroy everyone that dares be critical…principles no longer matter…truth, integrity, fairness…gone…

      now its all about who can “spin” their side the best…sad, but we were forced to open our eyes to see the truth, to see icons we admired crumble and crack right in front of us…idealism took a big hit…and now there is no going back…
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      re: ACORN…evidently Conyers was preparing to investigate ACORN and was told from ‘above’ to squash the investigation…that needs more push…FOX is the only tv network touching any of it…

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      wbboei Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
      Ticketing information for Clinton and Gates’ appearance has not been made public yet, but will be free and open to the public.
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      I hope somebody from this site goes because it would be good to get a first hand report. I doubt it will be televised, and because Hillary is in it, the New York Times will censor it. I guess I am interested, and I do expect it will be discuss our expanding role in Afghanistan, something which I strongly oppose. But then again, I find my own focus which used to be attuned to the world narrowing considerably with the exception of my concern for Israel. For me at least, the world has become peripheral to my thinking, partly because I believe we are on the wrong track but it affects our lives far less than what is happening right here. That is where the worst seeds are being planted. That is where I am inclined to focus my attention.

      *****wbboei, I would bet that c-span will cover it**********

    20. I think lining thousands of shoes on the sidewalk outside the WH gates and snapping a pic would do just fine.

      ==============

      Yes, that would have, er, legs. 🙂

      It’s just mailing gimmicky stuff through the Post Office that’s a waste of time because the PO discards it.

    21. Admin:

      Please embed: Acorn Video identifying Pimps and Prostitutes and Tax Fraud.

      (ht/RBO)

      youtube.com/watch?v=3T6TPQHAUrQ&feature=player_embedded

    22. reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSTRE58941P20090910

      Wall Street sees few surprises in Obama speech

      By Lewis Krauskopf and Susan Heavey

      NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Shares of U.S. health insurers climbed on Thursday after analysts saw no “game changers” from President Barack Obama’s highly anticipated speech on health reform.

      Following the speech, analysts predicted any changes to the system would be moderate, with Obama backing many initiatives put forth earlier this week by a leading Senate committee. The possibility a threatening public health plan would be enacted also now seemed doubtful, analysts said.

      “There wasn’t anything said that is drastically changing the outlook as to what might come out of Congress,” said Steve Shubitz, an analyst with Edward Jones.

      Democratic leaders promised swift action on healthcare reform after Obama called for quick action on a broad overhaul in his prime-time address on Wednesday night.

      The prospect of dramatic changes to the healthcare system has pressured health insurer shares since Obama took office in January and made reforming the nation’s healthcare system and expanding coverage to the uninsured a top goal.

      Shares of UnitedHealth Group (UNH.N) and WellPoint Inc (WLP.N), the two largest health insurers, rose about 1 percent and 2 percent, respectively. Aetna Inc (AET.N) rose more than 2 percent and Cigna Corp (CI.N) jumped more than 4 percent.

      Obama “demonized insurers several times but didn’t add anything new to the debate,” Wells Fargo analyst Matt Perry said in a research note. “Overall we view the speech as neutral to insurers.”

      Obama made his case that a public health plan would force more competition in the private market. The idea has prompted worries from investors that companies would be unable to compete and could eventually lead to a government takeover of healthcare.

      But Obama said he had “no interest in putting insurance companies out of business” and was open to other ideas to ensure Americans have affordable insurance options.

      Concern remains over the possibility of a public insurance option and how alternatives that could be less threatening, such as non-profit cooperatives, would operate. But there is a growing sense that the government’s role may not be as big as once feared.

      Investors “are probably most concerned about how strong a government-run option to compete with commercial health insurers might be in a final bill, and … Obama signaled yet again that he recognizes there’s going to have to be compromise,” said Paul Heldman, a senior healthcare policy analyst at Potomac Research Group in Washington.

      Ana Gupte, a Sanford Bernstein analyst, said in a research note she was “even more confident after the Obama speech that the legislative outcomes will be moderate with no threat of a Medicare-like public plan.”

      Overall, analysts said, Obama took a more moderate approach, with his plan resembling the framework proposed earlier this week by Senator Max Baucus, head of the powerful finance committee whose formal bill will be crucial for investors to watch when it is released.

      “It’s very clear that this is the route they’re going to use to get something out there,” Shubitz said.

      Ipsita Smolinski, a healthcare analyst with Washington-based Capitol Street, said the focus on the Baucus bill helps give the market a sense of the road ahead.

      “The worst is behind us. We’re not going to see any brand new reimbursement policies or negative coverage decisions because the (final congressional) bill at this point is going to have to be whittled down from what we’ve already seen,” she said.

      Potomac Research’s Heldman said Obama clearly endorsed two ideas included in the Baucus plan that threaten insurers and other companies: a tax on high-end, “Cadillac” insurance plans and a more powerful commission that could cut spending under the Medicare insurance program for the elderly and disabled.

      Those and other provisions still left to be settled as the Senate and House of Representatives work out differences and pass final legislation for Obama to sign are likely to keep the entire health care sector on edge, he said.

      “This is going to be a rollercoaster ride throughout the fourth quarter,” he said.

      (Reporting by Lewis Krauskopf in New York and Susan Heavey in Washington, editing by Gerald E. McCormick, Leslie Gevirtz)

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      that’s right, insurance companies are cracking open the champagne just thinking about those thousands, millions of new mandatory customers…

      nothing like enslaving the american people to the insurance companies on a mandatory scale…

    23. Now I know why John Stossel is moving to FOX. It is because of his ripping report on American Heath Care, which must have not set well with ABC.

      I got this in an email.

      youtube.com/watch?v=q9GMKK_fWKg

      This might have been addressed before.

    24. I think Acorn is running scared…er…terrified. So they are throwing their lesser slaves to the wolves in the hopes that they can someday regroup and savage ethical politics and the American public once again…and all in the name of their master.

    25. Good one, NMF..

      JanH:

      Firing employees will reach the breaking point and just not be enough. The point is Acorn is to be the recipient of Billions of Federal government dollars and should be stricken from Federal Grant Rolls. We have to keep up the pressure destroying Obama’s base of corruption if we are to prevail.

    26. White House Resists Offering Details on Financing Health Plan

      By Julianna Goldman and Mike Dorning

      Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) — President Barack Obama vowed before a national television audience on Sept. 9 that his $900 billion proposal to overhaul health care wouldn’t add “one dime” to the federal deficit.

      So far, White House officials have offered few details on how they intend to pay for the plan. Instead, they’ve deferred to Congress on the issue, saying they’ll consider all options.

      With Obama this week declaring ownership of the plan to enact the most extensive changes in health care in more than four decades, the White House’s reluctance to break down how it would finance the measure is rankling some lawmakers.

      “He needs to put together a blisteringly specific plan that can be analyzed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office or embrace legislation that is already being considered,” said Representative Mark Kirk, an Illinois Republican and member of the House Appropriations Committee. “Otherwise, all we have is non-specific assertions with no credible support.”

      Administration officials say two-thirds of the legislation will be financed by savings in the Medicare and Medicaid programs, and the elimination of “waste, fraud and abuse” in the health-care system. The remainder will come from revenue- raising measures, some of which have stirred opposition in Congress. As a result, some lawmakers and experts say Obama’s plans lack the clarity his aides promised before his speech.

      Working With Congress

      Even on Obama’s endorsement of a proposal to tax insurers on their most expensive policies, officials said they hadn’t yet settled on the threshold for imposing the levy. They wouldn’t specify how much revenue it would generate, estimating it would yield between $100 billion and $200 billion over 10 years.

      “That’s one of the things that we’ll work through and discuss with Congress as we move forward,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said yesterday in his daily briefing.

      Some lawmakers and analysts say the White House is pursuing a smart strategy by leaving itself open to various ideas, since that may make it easier for House and Senate negotiators to complete legislation. “He needs to be mindful of the role Congress has in this,” said Democratic Senator Tom Carper of Delaware. “The role of the president is to steer the boat, not row the boat.”

      Leaving out the details of how the plan will be paid for is “familiar code” for a noncommittal strategy that may make the congressional talks easier, said Bill Galston, a scholar at the Washington-based Brookings Institution who was a domestic policy adviser to former President Bill Clinton.

      ‘Won’t Know for Sure’

      “Until the White House puts out a scoreable accounting of how it gets to $900 billion, we won’t know for sure” how they’ll finance the program, Galston said.

      Obama and congressional Democrats are trying to extend coverage to millions of uninsured Americans and rein in health- care costs that account for about one-sixth of the U.S. economy. Among other issues, they’re considering requiring employers to provide coverage, mandating that everyone get insurance and placing new rules on insurers.

      The administration outlined a plan in June to raise $948 billion over 10 years to carry out the reform that depended heavily on cost savings. Yet more than $300 billion in revenue came from a proposed limit on tax deductions for high-income filers that has run into opposition in Congress.

      Falling Short

      The tax on high-end health plans that Obama backed this week falls short of that $300 billion mark in the version being considered by the Senate Finance Committee. Finance Chairman Max Baucus has proposed a $200 billion levy on insurance companies that offer health plans valued at more than $8,000 for individuals and $21,000 for families. The administration’s cost-savings plan also drew skepticism from David Walker, former head of the U.S. Government Accountability Office, Congress’s investigative arm. “We don’t have enough details,” said Walker, who is now president and CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation.

      White House officials argue that the president has proposed more than $1 trillion in savings and revenue measures to pay for the proposed overhaul. Proposals have included a $635 billion down payment in Obama’s fiscal 2010 budget; $313 billion in planned savings in Medicare and Medicaid, and the tax on insurance policies, which could raise between $100 billion and $200 billion over 10 years. “We will work with Congress to ensure that the health- care bill he signs will be deficit-neutral,” said Dan Pfeiffer, deputy White House communications director.

      Waste and Fraud

      Baucus’s measure, which he said his panel will draft next week, projects about half the revenue needed to offset its cost will come from steps to reduce fraud and waste in Medicare and Medicaid. Among other proposals, his plan would overhaul the enrollment process for doctors and medical suppliers, impose new data-matching and data-sharing procedures across federal health programs, and make it easier to suspend payments during fraud investigations.

      The House Ways and Means Committee adopted $583 billion in new taxes, most of which would be collected from an income surtax as high as 5.4 percent on Americans earning more than $350,000. That’s likely to face significant opposition in the Senate.

      Stan Collender, a former analyst for the House and Senate budget committees, said Obama is in no position now to get too much into detail because of the congressional negotiations. “Not only can anything change but everything will change and that’s the reason he wasn’t more specific,” said Collender, now managing director of Qorvis Communications in Washington.

      “The pay-fors are always the most difficult part of the politics.”

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    27. “The point is Acorn is to be the recipient of Billions of Federal government dollars and should be stricken from Federal Grant Rolls. We have to keep up the pressure destroying Obama’s base of corruption if we are to prevail.”

      —————————

      Mrs. Smith

      Yes, I totally agree with you.

    28. Rocket fire from Lebanon sparks Israel retaliation

      By BASSEM MROUE (AP) – 2 hours ago

      BEIRUT — Two rockets were fired from southern Lebanon into Israel on Friday, prompting Israel to respond with artillery fire, Lebanese security and military officials said. The exchange, in which no casualties were reported by either side, was the latest in persisting tensions between the two countries. It was the fourth time rockets have been fired from Lebanon into Israel, each time bringing Israeli retaliation.

      It was not immediately known who fired the rockets Friday. But radical Palestinian factions in Lebanon have been blamed in the previous barrages this year.

      The border has been tense since Israel and the Lebanese Shiite guerrilla group Hezbollah fought a brutal 34-day war in 2006. More than 1,200 people in Lebanon and 160 in Israel died in the conflict. Hezbollah has a large rocket arsenal but is not believed to have used them against Israel since the 2006 fighting. It has denied involvement in previous rocket attacks on Israel.

      Michael Williams, the U.N. special coordinator for Lebanon, told reporters in Beirut that the incident “is a very, very serious development and I would like to call on all sides to exercise absolute caution and restraint.”

      Friday’s exchange began when two rockets were fired into Israel from the area of the Lebanese town of Qlaileh, near the port city of Tyre, a Lebanese military official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press. One of the rockets hit near the northern Israeli town of Nahariya, Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said. No injuries were reported. Israel’s Channel 10 TV showed a telephone pole near a kibbutz not far from the border that was toppled by a rocket.

      The Israeli military said it fired artillery at the source of rocket fire. The military “views this incident very severely and we hold the government of Lebanon responsible,” a statement said. At least two Israeli shells hit near Qlaileh, Lebanese security officials said, also speaking on condition of anonymity. Lebanon’s state-run National News Agency reported that nine Israeli artillery shells fell near the town, but there were no reports of casualties or damage.

      The U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon, which monitors the border, said it, in cooperation with Lebanese Armed Forces, deployed additional troops in the Qlaileh area to prevent escalation. The force, known as UNIFIL, said in a statement that it had contacted both sides, urging them to exercise “maximum restraint.”

      Israel and Hezbollah have been increasingly exchanging warnings in recent weeks that they will retaliate against each other if either side sparks hostilities. The tensions come as Lebanese politicians are wrangling over the formation of a new government, which would likely include members of the Hezbollah-led opposition. Israel has said that if Hezbollah is part of the Cabinet, it would hold the Lebanese government directly responsible for any attack by the guerrillas. Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV reported on the exchange, but did not make any claim of responsibility.

      The last exchange, blamed on Palestinian militants, across the border came in February. Palestinian militants also fired rockets across the border twice in January, during Israel’s offensive on Gaza against the militant Palestinian Hamas.

      google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gCHfA
      WAy_fYeedrL-WswqiDnyzyQD9AL769G4

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      “urging them to exercise “maximum restraint.”

      Sure. And if it had been Israel who initiated this, bambi, the U.N., the Arab terrorist leaders would all have been screaming bloody murder.

    29. ACCORDING TO SOMEONE I JUST SPOKE TO, WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF A AN INFLATIONARY DEPRESSION. THIS EXPLAINS MANY STRANGE THINGS WHICH ARE HAPPENING AT THE PRESENT TIME. I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE IT. JUST CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE.

      1. CHINA HAS STOPPED BUYING OUR COMMERCIAL PAPER. (GETHNER’S MISSION IN JULY WAS A FAILURE)

      2. OUR DEBTS ARE FALLING DUE AND WE NEED TO RAISE MONEY IMMEDIATELY THROUGH TAX INCREASES, BENEFIT CUTS AND PRINTING MORE MONEY.

      3. OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE BLITZ IS A SMOKESCREEN. THE INTENT IS TO RAISE MONEY THROUGH RETROACTIVE TAXES ON HEALTH CARE AND CUTTING BENEFITS.

      4. OBAMA HAS GIVEN THE GANG OF 6 UNTIL TUESDAY TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON HEALTH CARE COMPROMISES. THEY DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FACT HOWEVER.

      5. CONGRESS RAISED THE DEBT CEILING TO 12 TRILLION THIS WEEK SO THE FED CAN PRINT MORE MONEY TO COVER OUR DEBTS. BUT THIS WILL MAKE THE DOLLAR YOU HOLD NOW WORTH LESS.

      6. OBAMA IS PUTTING THE PRIORITY ON CUTTING MEDICARE BENEFITS RATHER THAN ELIMINATING WASTE.

      7. THERE IS A 27% SHORT FALL IN TAX REVENUE BETWEEN PROJECTIONS AND RECEIPTS. THE TAX INCREASES IN THE HEALTH CARE INITIATIVE MAY BE MADE RETROACTIVE TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

      8. ALSO, OBAMA HAS REPORTEDLY CUT A PRIVATE DEAL WITH THE SEIU TO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY.

      AGAIN, DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANY OF THIS. CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF. I HOPE NONE OF IT IS TRUE. MY SOURCE HAS REACHED THIS CONCLUSION NOT–NOT THROUGH INSIDE KNOWLEDGE BUT THOUGH A CAREFUL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

    30. wbboei, YOUR PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE. I BELIEVE IT, THE CARTEL THAT RUNS THIS COUNTRY HAS PUT OBAMA IN TO GET RID OF THE DOLLAR. THEY DID NOT WANT TO SOIL THE REPUBLICANS WITH THIS DELIMMA. WHAT BETTER TO KEEP THE MASSES IN HAND BUT TO PUT IN THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. THEY EXPECT THE BLACKS WILL NOT RIOT BECAUSE ITS OBAMA. THEY FIGURE THE WHITES ARE TOO RESERVED TO DO IT. THAT LEAVES THE CRAZIES AND THEY CAME BRING THE NATIONAL GUARD TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE.

      WHEN WBBOEI, WHEN?? THATS ALL I WANT TO KNOW, I am planting my garden and storing food now. When will the ball drop?? Soon I expect, especially after Israel blows up Iran, there will be no gas? Will call you tonight!

    31. More fun than Mad-Libs, it’s….

      An Obama Speech in 13 Easy Steps
      By Rich Lowry

      Everyone marvels at Barack Obama’s rhetorical prowess. But don’t be overly bedazzled. With these 13 easy steps, you, too, can give a Barack Obama speech.

      1) Create a false center. In his speech to a joint session of Congress, Obama positioned himself between the Left’s calling for a single-payer system and the Right’s agitating to end employer-based health insurance. Presto – he’s the very definition of a centrist. Anyone advocating almost any position can benefit from the same insta-centrism.
      2) Scorn ideology. Obama warned against “the usual Washington ideological battles.” Message: He has no philosophical commitments himself. He’s pushing a Great Society redux only as a matter of practicality. Superficial pragmatism is the ideologue’s best friend.

      3) Talk about your openness to ideas from opponents. The more you do this, the less you have to adopt any of their ideas. “I will continue to seek common ground,” Obama said. “I will be there to listen. My door is always open.” While he does all this common-ground seeking, he will be whipping up the Democratic votes to pass a massive, liberal reordering of the health-care system. But he’ll be listening!

      4) Embrace empty symbolic measures as a show of reasonableness. The centrist, nonideological, open-minded leader needs something tangible to demonstrate all these qualities, lest anyone suspect it’s a rhetorical put-on. This is why God, in his goodness, created the demonstration project. In a bow to Republicans, Obama blessed medical-malpractice experiments in the states. Thus, he takes the most tentative step toward a GOP idea while marching his Democrats toward an overhaul of one-sixth of the economy by Thanksgiving.

      5) Make lawyerly distinctions too subtle for most people to notice. Never underestimate the power of the cagey formulation. Obama said people won’t be “required” to change their current arrangements if they like them. That sounds reassuring even though it leaves open the likelihood that millions will have to change insurance as a result of his plan. (Caution: May require the aid of experienced policy hands and professional speechwriters.)

      6) Say things just because they sound good. Why not? Obama always says he’ll reduce costs even though the Democratic plans do little or nothing to reduce costs. That’s his sound bite, and he’s sticking to it.

      7) Dissemble as necessary. Don’t hesitate to brazen it out as needed. The House plan authorizes the secretary of health and human services to include abortion coverage in the public option. But Obama insists reform won’t cover abortion, and accuses his opponents of lying when they say it will. Shamelessness has its advantages, especially if a compliant press will overlook it.

      8 ) Make the price right. Washington’s new standard for expensive is $1 trillion. Naturally, Obama’s plan came in at $900 billion. He might as well have said it will cost $999.999 billion.

      9) Never admit any cost or downside to what you are proposing. Even an unparalleled genius of an orator has trouble selling things people don’t like. So don’t do it. Obama stipulated the new taxes will fall on insurers and drug companies. And, oh yeah, don’t say “taxes.” They are “revenues” and “fees.” Or, in the case of employers, it’s called “chipping in.” As for the Medicare cuts, all of them will come from “waste and fraud” and “unnecessary subsidies.” See how easy this is?

      10) Couple attacks on your critics as unworthy hacks with calls for civility. If you favor “a civil conversation,” you can better dismiss your opponents for their “bickering” and “games.”

      11) Be sure to say something like “this is the time.” Evocations of the urgency of the moment sound bold and determined. E.g., “Now is the time to deliver on health care,” because “here and now we will meet history’s test.” The status quo can’t be accepted: “Not this time. Not now.”

      12) At least once a speech, keep talking over the applause. This is inspiring.

      13) Load it up in a teleprompter. And repeat as necessary.

    32. I just pray the country can pay their social security bills to the people of this country, if not, there will be starvation. I heard the other day when a country loses its form of money, it is immediately thrown into what looks like a third world country. Its really scary. I would love to know who in the hell are the Lords of the Cartel.

    33. wbboei, My personal projection for the dollar, it will be gone by the end of the year, if not the end of the month. Its bad and getting worse by the day. Soros speculating to get the “One” elected got out of hand and now they can’t stop it.

    34. Putin is telling the world not to strike their friends Iran. Israel had a undercover meeting with Putin and now Putin is saying No. hmm, hmmm

      The only thing to get the economies of the world back on target is a BIG war. WWII fixed the depression and got America back together again. What do you think they will do NOW?

    35. Wilson wins:

      Democrats put Joe Wilson anti-illegal immigration demands into health care bill

      Story:

      h..w.. examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d11-Wilson-wins-Democrats-put-Joe-Wilson-antiillegal-immigration-demands-into-health-care-bill?cid=exrss-PostPartisan-Examiner

    36. Israel should move closer to Russia and China and away from the US as long as this anti-Israeli POTUS is in power. Russia cannot be trusted, but they know Israel can and will strike if they don’t get Iran to stop their nuclear weapons program.

    37. This article is way over the top garbage. meme is on the move…I find this an extraordinary inappropriate use of White House prestige and honor.

      ——————-

      Michelle Obama to help Chicago’s Olympic bid
      (AP) – 46 minutes ago

      WASHINGTON — An Obama is definitely going to Denmark for the vote to award the 2016 Olympics.

      The White House announced Friday that first lady Michelle Obama will be a lead member of Chicago’s delegation for the Oct. 2 vote by the International Olympic Committee. President Barack Obama has not ruled out going, but told IOC president Jacques Rogge his priority right now is the fight to reform the health care system.

      “He will continue to work to support Chicago’s bid,” said Patrick Ryan, chairman of Chicago 2016. “There is no greater supporter of Chicago and its bid to host the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games than President Obama and his support is recognized worldwide.”

      Chicago and U.S. Olympic Committee members have openly lobbied for Obama to join them in Copenhagen, believing his presence could help bring the Summer Games back to the United States for the first time since 1996. Chicago is in a tight contest with Rio de Janeiro, Madrid and Tokyo, and the presence of world leaders has been instrumental in the most recent votes.

      Tony Blair helped London land the 2012 Games when he met IOC members in Singapore in 2005, and Vladimir Putin traveled to Guatemala City in 2007 to push Sochi’s winning bid for the 2014 Winter Games. Brazil’s president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has already said he’ll be in Copenhagen, as will King Juan Carlos of Spain.

      Japan has invited incoming Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama and Crown Prince Naruhito to attend.

      But Rogge said Thursday that Chicago’s chances shouldn’t hinge on whether Obama makes a personal appearance in Denmark. Obama, an ardent supporter of his adopted hometown’s bid, has videotaped four messages for IOC members in recent months. “If they want to come, this is an honor for the IOC,” Rogge said. “We’ll feel honored by their presence. It would be absolutely legitimate if they go to defend the bid of their country. We are not asking for heads of state to come there.”

      Besides, Michelle Obama brings some pretty good star power and international popularity of her own to the effort. She was born and raised on Chicago’s South Side, not far from where the Olympic stadium would be, and she and the president will host Olympic athletes at the White House next week.

      The athletes will visit local schools first, then join the Obamas and Chicago 2016 leaders at the White House in the afternoon. “It is with great pride that I will go to Copenhagen to make the case for the United States to host the 2016 Olympics,” she said in a statement. “There is no doubt in my mind that Chicago would offer the world a fantastic setting for these historic games and I hope that the Olympic torch will have the chance to burn brightly in my hometown.”

      As first lady, Michelle Obama has highlighted opening doors for underserved communities, particularly young people. She said this fits with the city’s pledge to encourage the involvement of children in the games, if it hosts, through the distribution of over 500,000 tickets to local youth.
      “Since President Obama has assumed office, the USOC and the bid have felt nothing but complete support. Sending the first lady to Copenhagen is an unprecedented statement of support,” the USOC said in a statement. “The first lady, as a Chicago native, is a tremendous ambassador for the Chicago 2016 bid. She is a representative of Chicago and of America, of the first family and of their support for the bid.”

      The White House has also said that Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama’s top adviser and the former vice chair of Chicago 2016, will travel to Copenhagen.

      google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j6_M9s8SmlcoS7YrG57F7bQ0VCUgD9ALAO281

    38. Senate confirms head of White House regulatory office: The Senate has confirmed Cass Sunstein to lead the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs

      ◦By Ben Bain◦Sep 11, 2009

      The Senate has confirmed Cass Sunstein to head the White House office that reviews proposed and final rules before they are published, a critical position in the federal regulatory process.

      As administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), Sunstein will head a small office that wields extensive power. The Paperwork Reduction Act of 1980 created OIRA, but it was under an executive order by President Bill Clinton that it gained extensive power to steer and overrule agencies’ regulations.

      Sunstein, has taught at Harvard’s law school and the University of Chicago’s law school, and has authored several books. The Senate confirmed him by 57 to 40 on Sept. 10. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee approved Sunstein in May.

      “Cass Sunstein has exceptional qualifications and extraordinary talents and will lead OIRA in a positive direction,” Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), that committee’s chairman, said Sept. 10.

      The nonprofit research and advocacy organization OMB Watch said Sunstein will be responsible for carrying out reforms to the regulatory process that the President Barack Obama has pledged. The group has criticized the regulatory process and wants Obama to change the relationship between OIRA and federal agencies that promulgate rules. OIRA comes under the White House’s Office of Management and Budget.

      “We expect Cass Sunstein to oversee a regulatory system that puts the public first by allowing federal agencies to write and enforce the regulations that protect us in our everyday lives,” said Gary Bass, OMB Watch’s executive director. “We look forward to working with Sunstein and his OIRA staff to promote a regulatory agenda that actively works to protect the public.”

      fcw.com/articles/2009/09/11/web-oira-administrator-confirmed.aspx

    39. Obama is coming apart at the seams. He needs to get Michelle out of his hair because she has nothing else to do but watch what he’s doing…

    40. TheRealist Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
      More fun than Mad-Libs, it’s….

      *************************************

      Lowry forgot one thing:

      “Yes, my door is open to all, but if you ‘lie’, “we will call you out”

      (translation…don’t you dare question me in any way, shape or form)

    41. Everyone needs to go over to the Obamafile and catch up with the BC issue. Some very positive things are going on. THe dr. that is on the suit, is leaving for Iraq tomorrow and doesn’t want to go if the usurper is not the real POTUS. The judge is hearing her case tomorrow at 2pm. They have expeditied the discovery part of the lawsuit. Obama may have to prove it sooner than later. We will see if the military changes her orders for Iraq, like they did the last time.
      He also shows a Canada free press article that shows the difference in the certifications of Obama and Biden as the democratic nominees. Its very interesting. Its not too much fun to be Obama now, its coming at him on all sides!

    42. If I were Joe Wilson, I would tell them I would apologize on the floor with the people who need to apologize to George W. Bush. In fact they can do that in unison.

    43. bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aUTh4YMmI6QE

      very long and complicated…but there is a constant thread running through this report…the O admin has virtually done nothing of consequence to protect the financial stability of our country since last years collapse…regardless of the fluff we will get from O’s next “publicity stunt” (admin) on Monday…

      here is part of the article…I have one question that I previously asked to any legal minds here…what happened to our anti-trust/monopoly laws???

      Lehman Monday Morning Lesson Lost With Obama Regulator-in-Chief

      By Alison Fitzgerald and Christine Harper

      Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) —

      Less than 24 hours after his swearing-in ceremony, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner surprised Camden R. Fine with an invitation to a one- on-one meeting about the financial crisis.

      “I about fell out of my chair,” said Fine, president of the Independent Community Bankers of America, a Washington-based trade group with about 5,000 members. He was in a corner office overlooking the White House at the Treasury Department the next morning, telling Geithner that behemoths such as Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. were a menace, he said.

      “They should be broken up and sold off,” Fine, 58, said he declared, as Geithner scribbled notes before thanking him for his time and ushering him out into the January chill.

      The Treasury secretary didn’t follow through on Fine’s suggestion, just as he didn’t act on the advice of former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul A. Volcker, or Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. head Sheila C. Bair, or the dozens of economists and politicians who pressed the White House for measures that would limit the size or activities of U.S. banks.

      One year after the demise of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. paralyzed the financial system, “mega-banks,” as Fine’s group calls them, are as interconnected and inscrutable as ever. The Obama administration’s plan for a regulatory overhaul wouldn’t force them to shrink or simplify their structure.

      Policy of Containment

      “We could have another Lehman Monday,” Niall Ferguson, author of the 2008 book “The Ascent of Money” and a professor of history at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said in an interview. “The system is essentially unchanged, except that post-Lehman, the survivors have ‘too big to fail’ tattooed on their chests.”

      After the deepest recession since the 1930s, which has seen the world’s largest economy shrink 3.9 percent since the second quarter of last year, and more than $1.6 trillion in worldwide losses and writedowns by banks and insurers, President Barack Obama decided on a policy of containment rather than a structural transformation.

      His proposal for revamping the way the U.S. monitors and controls banks doesn’t include taking apart institutions, supported by taxpayer loans, that have grown in scope and size since Lehman imploded. The biggest, Charlotte, North Carolina- based Bank of America, had $2.25 trillion in assets as of June, 31 percent more than a year earlier, and about 12 percent of all U.S. deposits.

      Creating Bedlam

      Instead, the Obama plan would label Bank of America, New York-based Citigroup and others as “systemically important.” It would subject them to capital and liquidity requirements and stricter oversight, relying on the same regulators who didn’t understand the consequences of a Lehman failure. And while companies could be dismantled if they got into trouble, they, their creditors and shareholders could also be bailed out with taxpayer money, according to the plan.

      The chief architects, Geithner, 48, and National Economic Council Director Lawrence H. Summers, 54, say they don’t think it would be practical to outlaw banks of a certain size or limit trading activities by deposit-taking banks, according to people familiar with their thinking. They said the two men, who declined to be interviewed, and others on Obama’s team believe the lines are too fuzzy between banking and investing products and that forcing the divestiture of units and assets would create bedlam.

      “It’s a very difficult thing to say as a national policy goal that we’re going to limit the success of an American firm,” said Tony Fratto, 43, a spokesman for President George W. Bush and former Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson who now heads a Washington consulting firm.

      System Failure

      The lesson of Sept. 15, 2008, is that limits may be necessary, according to Fine and other critics of the government’s regulatory proposals.

      Lehman, the leading underwriter of mortgage-backed securities in 2008, was done in by too much borrowing and too many real estate investments that couldn’t be sold easily. When the property market turned sour — home prices fell by 20 percent in the two years preceding the bankruptcy, according to the S&P/Case-Schiller home-price index of 20 U.S. cities — and creditors wanted more collateral for loans or their money back, the investment bank had to fold.

      It had $613 billion in debt and so many deals with so many companies that its bankruptcy set off a chain reaction the government and other Wall Street firms didn’t anticipate. Simon H. Johnson, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, likened it to the fictitious substance ice-nine in the 1963 Kurt Vonnegut Jr. novel “Cat’s Cradle,” one drop of which could crystallize all the water on Earth. The Chapter 11 filing froze the global financial infrastructure.

      Obama’s Fix

      “This was a failure of the entire system,” Obama said on June 17 when he introduced his blueprint. “A regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis – – the Great Depression — was overwhelmed by the speed, scope, and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy.”

      The president’s fix is to empower the Fed to put the brakes on banks, hedge funds, insurers or other financial firms whose crash could have a crippling domino effect. About 25 companies may qualify based on their assets and on factors such as funding relationships, Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told the House Financial Services Committee on July 24.

      Potential Threats

      “Most reform proposals acknowledge, perhaps with some consternation, that systemically important institutions are likely to be with us into the indefinite future,” said Daniel K. Tarullo, a member of the Fed’s board of governors, in an interview. “The proposed reforms are oriented toward forcing those institutions to internalize more of the risks they create and thus making it less likely they will create problems for the system as a whole.”

      A Financial Services Oversight Council — made up of the heads of the FDIC, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and other agencies — would advise the Fed on potential threats.

      The Treasury would be able to take over and wind down financial institutions with an authority modeled on powers held by the FDIC, which guarantees deposits and can close and sell failing banks under its jurisdiction. A Consumer Financial Protection Agency could restrict what it viewed as unsuitable products for Americans.

      ‘Crap Loans’

      The existence of such a regulatory framework might have averted Lehman’s chaotic end — and the economic crisis that followed — because cheap money wouldn’t have been allowed to inflate a real estate bubble with questionable mortgages and mortgage derivatives, according to Austan Goolsbee, a member of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers.

      “One of the fundamental principles of the plan is that if you’re menacing to the system, someone is going to regulate you very closely,” said Goolsbee, 40. “They’re going to be in there watching everything you do.”

      If a consumer agency had existed, lenders wouldn’t have been able to sell so many complex and costly mortgages, said Ralph L. Schlosstein, chief executive officer of New York investment bank Evercore Partners Inc. and a supporter of Obama’s.

      “There has never been decent regulation of the appropriateness of lending products as opposed to investment products, and the fact that that didn’t exist really allowed trillions of dollars of crap loans that were neither affordable nor understood to be made,” said Schlosstein, a co-founder and former president of asset management company BlackRock Inc.

      Fatally Flawed

      As much as it might mitigate some risks, the Obama strategy is fatally flawed because it fails to force the largest banks to change their behavior, said Johnson, the former IMF economist who is now a professor for finance at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge.

      “The biggest problem is it doesn’t deal with too-big-to- fail,” Johnson said. “It doesn’t say anything.”

      If constraints aren’t legislated, “complexity will multiply and take on new forms,” and regulators once again won’t be able to keep up, he said. “You have to make things a lot smaller.”

      That too-big-to-fail predicament — the theory that certain businesses can’t be allowed to go bankrupt because of the economic damage that would cause, and that the implicit government guarantee encourages risky behavior — was discussed in conference rooms and watering holes during the Kansas City Fed’s annual symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, in August.

      ‘Financial Oligarchy’

      The chairman of the regional Fed and the event’s host, Thomas M. Hoenig, 63, had set the tone with speeches over the past year that warned against allowing power to be concentrated in a “financial oligarchy.” Hoenig played on the theme at the opening steak-and-salmon dinner on Aug. 20 at Jackson Lake Lodge, a National Historic Landmark in Grand Teton National Park. Access had to be limited, he said, for fear the group would grow “too big to feed.”

      That thread of humor spread as speakers tried to work references to size and failure into their remarks, with varying degrees of success, according to Mark Gertler, 58, a New York University economist and former research partner of Bernanke’s who attended the conference.

      Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer, Bernanke’s thesis adviser at MIT, addressed the topic more seriously at lunch on Aug. 21.

      “At this stage, we seem to be taking it for granted that we should go back to the structure of the financial system as it was on the eve of the crisis,” Fischer, 65, a former Citigroup vice chairman, told his audience in the lodge’s Grizzly Room. “Even for the largest economies, there is a case for discouraging financial institutions from growing excessively.”

      ‘Fragile’ System

      Fischer’s comments echoed those of Volcker. The 82-year-old head of the president’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board began his campaign for restructuring the basics of U.S. banking 17 months ago in a speech to the New York Economic Club. It was April 8, 2008, three weeks after the Fed helped New York-based JPMorgan Chase & Co. buy Bear Stearns Cos. by extending a $30 billion backstop.

      The “demonstrably fragile financial system that has produced unimaginable wealth for some, while repeatedly risking a cascading breakdown of the system as a whole, needs repair and reform,” the 6-foot-7-inch (2.01-meter) Volcker said, grasping a podium that reached only to his waist. Before the speech at the Grand Hyatt New York, he belatedly celebrated his 80th birthday by blowing out a candle on a cake shaped like a stack of gift boxes.

      Volcker’s Plan

      Volcker’s ideas for overhauling the system — including strict regulation of over-the-counter derivatives trading — were outlined in an 82-page report prepared by the Group of 30, an organization of current and former central bankers, finance ministers, economists and financiers that Volcker heads.

      When he made the document public on Jan. 15, Volcker told reporters that he “sent a copy to some of the people in the new administration that would have an interest in it.” Since then, Volcker, an adviser to Obama during the presidential race, has lobbied Geithner and Summers, according to people familiar with the discussions. The former Fed chairman is taking his case on the road this month, starting with a speech on Sept. 16 to the Association for Corporate Growth in Beverly Hills, California.

      Volcker would subject money market funds to the same regulatory burdens as banks, demanding they hold capital to protect against losses like those suffered by the Reserve Primary Fund when Lehman’s bankruptcy touched off a run and more than 60 percent of its assets were withdrawn in two days.

      ‘Molotov Cocktail’

      Another critical change, according to Volcker, would be to prohibit big, interconnected companies that handle essential services such as deposit-taking and business payments from making high-risk bets with their own money in so-called proprietary trading. Volcker also wouldn’t allow non-financial firms to own government-insured deposit-taking companies. The proposals, intended to prevent another ice-nine episode, are similar in some respects to restrictions in place in the U.S. for more than 60 years until the Glass-Steagall Act was overturned by Congress in 1999.

      “Does anyone think it’s a coincidence that less than 10 years after they repealed Glass-Steagall, the financial markets collapsed?” said Fine of the community bankers group. He called current rules for banking a recipe for a “Molotov cocktail.”

      Bair, the FDIC chairman, has taken a different tack: She wants to check growth by charging fees based on the risks banks take. If Lehman had to pay for its gambles, it might not have held $84 billion in mortgage investments and loaded up on mortgage-backed securities in early 2008, after the subprime crisis began.

      Bair, Geithner

      “A financial system characterized by a handful of giant institutions with global reach and a single regulator is making a huge bet that those few banks and their regulator over a long period of time will always make the right decisions,” Bair told the Senate Banking Committee in May. She and Geithner have clashed because of her public opposition to his plan to make the Fed the chief overseer of systemically important financial institutions.

      For the executives and government officials who met at the New York Fed the weekend before Lehman went bust last September, the right decisions weren’t obvious.

      Their focus was on mitigating damage from about 1 million over-the-counter derivatives trades that Lehman had participated in, according to people who attended the meetings. The men and women in the room weren’t prepared when panic struck the $3.6 trillion money market industry, which provides short-term loans called commercial paper used by corporations such as General Electric Co. to pay everyday bills.

      Espresso Shot

      “They didn’t know who Lehman was intertwined with because they hadn’t done their homework,” said Joseph Stiglitz, a Columbia University economics professor who won the Nobel Prize in economics in 2001 for his analysis of markets with asymmetric information.

      That came home to Fratto the Saturday morning before Lehman fell apart. He sat in his West Wing office at the White House, adorned with pictures of his children and an inscribed photograph of Bono, monitoring the negotiations when he got a call from a friend at a New York bank.

      Sipping from a cup of Starbucks coffee with an extra shot of espresso, Fratto asked what she was doing at work.

      “She told me that every bank in New York City had their back offices filled with people trying to figure out their counterparty risk to Lehman,” Fratto recalled. “I was stunned. Everyone knew that Lehman had been listing for six months…

      article continues…
      ******************************

      ‘Financial Oligarchy’ – this is what is going on…concentration of all the weath in all the industries…the auto industry, the banks, wall st, the health industry, real estate, and all while jobs continue to decline…

      …this is what happens when there is nothing left to steal…just scoop up all that remains, anyway you can…assets, abolish labor costs, etc

      …when there is nothing left to steal…print the money and use the taxpayers as backup…

    44. NewMexicoFan Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
      If I were Joe Wilson, I would tell them I would apologize on the floor with the people who need to apologize to George W. Bush. In fact they can do that in unison.

      *************************
      NMF…you know what…all sides, the dems included, need to apologize to Bill Clinton…when you think of what they dragged him and Hillary through (and I will never excuse or justify in any way the ML betrayal) they all dragged our country into major distractions and another colossal waste of $$…

      …the dems are acting so petty…msnbc & cnn – I don’t watch because I cannot stand the nonsense but just channel surfing – Wilson is all they are talking about…what idiots…trivial nonsense…

    45. Very interesting, confloyd.
      I didn’t know about obamafile.

      This posting about how the DNC did a bait and switch in their affadavits certifying Bo and Biden as nominees is very interesting.

      Evidently the document submitted didn’t contain this phrase:

      “are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”
      ORIGINAL
      THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

      That was signed on Auguist 28.

      The one submitted on 9?11 read like this:

      THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively.

      WBBOEI! What do you think?

    46. wbboei,

      Could you look at this article and comment on it?

      (Thanks for the heads-up, confloyd)

      canadafreepress dot com/index.php/article/14583

    47. Sorry for the length but i am finding this absolutely fascinating.

      Any thoughts? (more from confloyd’s link)

      The Implications
      Please, allow me to connect the dots here…
      • The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.
      • One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.
      • The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President.
      Oh, there is one more important document in this story.
      The RNC “Official Certification of Nomination” for John McCain and Sarah Palin reads, and I quote:
      “We do hereby certify that a national convention of Delegates representing the Republican Party of the United States, duly held and convened in the city of Saint Paul, State of Minnesota, on September 4, 2008, the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States, and the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of Vice President of the Unites States, were nominated for such offices to be filled at the ensuing general election, November 4, 2008, viz;”
      The certification of constitutional eligibility is there in the RNC Certification of Nomination presented to the state Election Commissions. It’s there in the document which the DNC had prepared, signed and notarized, but did NOT deliver to the states.
      But it is NOT there in the DNC Certification of Nomination that the DNC used to certify and elect Barack Hussein Obama President and Joseph Biden Vice President of the United States of America.
      Last, the fact that TWO DNC Certifications exist, both signed, dated and notarized by the same individuals on the same day, means that a very real conspiracy to commit election fraud was underway, and since it took until six months after the election to uncover it, the conspiracy was indeed successful.
      Are you still wondering why Barack Obama has spent nearly $1.5 million in taxpayer’s funds to race Department of Justice lawyers around the country to stop all cases questioning Obama’s eligibility before discovery can force Obama to open up his top secret life?

    48. I am totally ashamed I am known as a democrat. They had there chance at 12-16 yrs in office, but what did they do they put the usurper dumbass in. His minions thought he had jeweled crown that could not be knocked off like BC’s did. So they threw their weight around called people racist. Now the republicans have taken their power base (Acorn) down. LMAO!! THe stupid F*&^king democrats, they deserve everything they get.

    49. S Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

      ————————–

      Good. A step in the right direction. obama must be crying buckets over this.

    50. I hope this is true!

      Breaking: Census Bureau cuts ties to ACORN
      posted at 6:30 pm on September 11, 2009

      No link yet at Fox but Major Garrett’s tweeting about it. From a practical standpoint, this is no great shakes; ACORN didn’t have a huge role in the census plans. But from a political standpoint, the feds dumping the president’s favorite community organizers for simply being too filthy to associate with is devastating.

    51. Why was the fraud at the Pentagon and not the Twin Towers today?? All the POTUS’S go to the largest disaster. Why?? I wonder if his brothers in the middle east wanted to see their king deep inside the Pentagon while on the outside the people are scrambling because they think they under fire again. Oh what levity for the terrorists!

    52. “We do not come to this decision lightly,” Census director Robert Groves wrote in a letter to ACORN, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

      In splitting with ACORN, Groves sought to tamp down GOP concerns and negative publicity that the partnership will taint the 2010 head count.

      “It is clear that ACORN’s affiliation with the 2010 census promotion has caused sufficient concern in the general public, has indeed become a distraction from our mission, and may even become a discouragement to public cooperation, negatively impacting 2010 census efforts,” Groves wrote.

    53. Basil9, its true, the democrats have been stripped of their power base, which they should when they crown a Kenyan and mobster for POTUS!

    54. confloyd,

      I was appalled by the appearance of the Bo’s at the WH this morning for a ‘moment of silence.’ He couldn’t say anything? Disgusting POS.

    55. Are you still wondering why Barack Obama has spent nearly $1.5 million in taxpayer’s funds to race Department of Justice lawyers around the country to stop all cases questioning Obama’s eligibility before discovery

      ====================

      I don’t post to very large audiences these days, but I wish I had a really good cite on just how much money Obama has spent quashing these cases — rather than just showing his paperwork to the judge/s.

    56. h..w..

      examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d11-Wilson-wins-Democrats-put-Joe-Wilson-antiillegal-immigration-demands-into-health-care-bill?cid=exrss-PostPartisan-Examiner

      ==================

      Interesting site! It sounds kind of tabloid-y, but seems to have some valid content. And his recommended blog list looks like Daily Puma!

    57. Thank you turndown.

      I asked the other day where this money was coming from. I was hoping it wasn’t from the taxpayers. I should have known better.

    58. Gibbs? Are you and your ass of a president ever going to take responsibility for anything? Do you not think this was totally classless and insensitive for an exercise of this nature to be held on such a tragic day?

      Where exactly does the buck stop?

      —————————————-

      White House defends Sept 11 training exercise

      WASHINGTON — The White House is defending the Coast Guard’s decision to hold a training exercise in the Potomac River on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

      Spokesman Robert Gibbs says he doesn’t believe the White House was notified about the training exercise. He says if law enforcement felt there was a need for the exercise it’s “best not to second-guess.”

      Gibbs sharply criticized CNN for airing an inaccurate report that shots were fired during the exercise, saying “before we report things like this, checking would be good.”

      The training exercise took place near the route President Barack Obama traveled to a Sept. 11 ceremony at the Pentagon around the same time.

      google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ior5yn9XZOGzSg6CdyHh9OPXo_WwD9AL7D4G0

    59. Basil, he couldn’t say anything because he doesn’t feel anything. He only cares about himself. He obviously was cold at Teddy’s funeral and that guy practical adopted him.

      He does have alot on his mind, including how to stay in office. hehehe!

    60. I just broke the news to my yellowdog dad, “the democrats are things of the past”. With Acorn (NOI) not fixing the ballots the dems have NO chance to get in. Lets hope the rethugs can find a moderate republican who doesn’t hate the middle class.

    61. I can imagine there is crying and the gnashing of teeth in the WH tonight! Rahm is rowled up and stomping his foot and screaming! I luv it!

    62. I heard there could be as many as 2 million at the 9/12 event.

      OTOH, that could be Dims raising false expectations . . . .

      I also read that poopsie nixed the censure-Joe-Wilson movement started by our fav racist-in-chief, clyburn.

      Anyone else hear that?

    63. I have figured it out when the dollar goes belly up, its the day that Obama flies the Chinese flag outside his bedroom window.

    64. Anyone remember those trendy ‘Bros before Ho’s’ t-shirts?

      A blogger at NQ came up with this about ACORN.
      .

      ‘This is Bo’s very own “HOs for BROs” advocacy group.’

      Priceless!

    65. Another bit of news that was mostly ignored until now because Big Media was only looking at the Dimocratic total:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/scs_wilson_rakes_in_750000_in.html

      With a political arms race in full force, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) has raised almost $750,000 in less than 48 hours since his shout of “You lie!” to President Obama during the Wednesday address to Congress, almost matching the Internet-fueled haul of his likely Democratic opponent.

      A senior GOP official said Wilson, who apologized to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel after the health-care speech but has since refused a more public apology, has turned his own previous sleepy campaign machine into an Web-friendly effort. Just as liberals have poured cash into the campaign of Rob Miller, who lost to Wilson by almost eight percentage points in 2008, conservatives are pouring contributions into Wilson’s campaign at an astonishing rate.

      Miller, a former Iraq war veteran, has raised more than $1 million for his 2010 rematch with Wilson, according to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

      Republicans expect Wilson to also top more than $1 million by Monday because of the immense publicity he’s received in the last 48 hours. In the relatively inexpensive South Carolina district, which takes in the southern portion of the state, the two opponents will likely have their two-year budgets filled in less than a week, strategists say.

      To put this fund-raising haul in perspective, Wilson, by early next week, could equal the total amount of money he raised in the entire two-year-election cycle of 2008, when he raised a little more than $1.1 million.

      Miller, by contrast, raised just $390,000 in donations for the entire 2008 cycle and lent himself another $235,000 of his own money, according to records filed with the Federal Election Commission. So he’s already doubled, in just two days, his total donations over a two-year period.

      The controversy will definitely go on through the weekend, as Wilson — a quiet backbench lawmaker who’s never been in the national spotlight — is scheduled to appear on the Sunday morning news show “Fox News Sunday.” If he continues to refuse to make a public apology on the House floor, Democrats plan to offer a resolution admonishing his comments to Obama.

      After liberal Internet activists turned Miller into a cause celebre in their effort to extract revenge on Wilson, conservatives joined the fray. Wilson, who hired GOP web strategist David All, now has ads running on conservative-leaning web sites such as the Drudge Report.

    66. Looks like a civil war between the Red and the Blue. Its all a smoke screen, there all the same party and grand theatrics are for the commoners to get in on the fight. Its all BS.

    67. Another bit of a Friday night pickme-up for all (and a smile to Hillary’s lips):

      http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/09/11/chris-dodd-is-in-deep-trouble/

      Chris Dodd Is In Deep Trouble

      14 months out from election day, Democratic Senator Chris Dodd is in a heap of trouble. According to Rasmussen Reports, not only is he below 50%, he is below 40%, and his likely GOP opponent, former Representative Rob Simmons, is almost at 50%. Dodd trails 49%-39%. Dodd trails former ambassador Tom Foley 43%-40%. He leads state Senator Sam Caliguri 43%-40%, and venture capitalist Peter Schiff 42%-40%. His statewide favorables stand at 40%; his unfavorables stand at a whopping 59%

      To put things in perspective, this is only slightly better than where Rick Santorum was in 2006. A September Strategic Vision (R) poll had it at 52%-38% Casey; Keystone had it at 50%-37% Casey, and Quinnipiac had it at 52%-34% Casey. Santorum lost by 18 points.

      There’s a long way to go to election day, and Connecticut is a deep blue state right now. But this has to be considered at least a “Slight Lean Republican” right now, if not a “Lean Republican.” Very few incumbents come back from numbers like this.

    68. admin, a smile on mine to. I will never forget how he was during the debates, saying she is so devisive, he’s horrid. He needs to go on down the road, find a new friend to accost waitresses with.

    69. hmmm…we’ll see…

      theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/pelosi-dems-bracing-for-huge-turnout-at-glenn-becktea-party-gathering/

      House Dems Bracing For Huge Turnout At Glenn Beck/Tea Party Gathering

      Looks like there’s serious concern among Dems about the big 9/12 rally that’s being heavily promoted by Glenn Beck, Fox, and the tea partiers for tomorrow.

      A top House Dem leadership aide has emailed a memo to Dem aides on the Hill and outside liberal groups warning they should brace for a turnout of up to two million people, suggesting Dems worry that if enough conservatives descend on the Mall it will amount to a major PR victory for the right.

      The aide, Doug Thornell, warned in the memo that the dust-up over Joe “you lie” Wilson has been invigorating conservatives. “It looks like Saturday’s event is going to be a huge gathering, estimates ranging from hundreds of thousands to 2 million people,” Thornell wrote in the memo, which was forwarded by a source.

      In another sign of concern, the memo painstakingly detailed a range of turnout predictions from the event’s organizers, such as this one from tea party leaders promising a crowd of up to 1,000,000.

      Adding to Dem concern is the fact that Beck recently claimed a major victory in the ouster of former green jobs adviser Van Jones.

      The House leadership memo predicting huge turnout could have been written in hopes that it would leak and inflate expectations for turnout, anticipating that it will fall far short. But Dems on the Hill insist they’re genuinely worried about what tomorrow will bring.

      ***************************************

      Update: Thornell is actually an aide to Chris Van Hollen, not Pelosi. Aplogies for the error. He’s still a senior House leadership aide, however.

      Update II: The full memo is right here.

    70. Mrs. Smith Says:

      September 11th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
      Obama is coming apart at the seams. He needs to get Michelle out of his hair because she has nothing else to do but watch what he’s doing…

      ********************

      makes me wonder if Obama’s and jarret know something we don’t?? and using the olympics as cover to get out of here while they still can???

      what’s pelosi, reid,rahm,axelgreases,geitner and the rest of the heavy players schedule for the same time period??

    71. CHECK THIS OUT!!!

      this is credited to dakinikat over at riverdaughter from a tip from david sirota

      openleft.com/ (has the invitation on his site)

      House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the first time yesterday suggested she may be backing off her support of the public option. According to CNN, Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid “said they would support any provision that increases competition and accessibility for health insurance – whether or not it is the public option favored by most Democrats.”

      This announcement came just hours before Steve Elmendorf, a registered UnitedHealth lobbyist and the head of UnitedHealth’s lobbying firm Elmendorf Strategies, blasted this email invitation throughout Washington, D.C. I just happened to get my hands on a copy of the invitation from a source – check it out:

      From: Steve Elmendorf [mailto:steve@elmendorfstrategies.com]
      Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:31 AM
      Subject: event with Speaker Pelosi at my homeYou are cordially invited to a reception with Speaker of the House
      Nancy Pelosi

      Thursday, September 24, 2009
      6:30pm ~ 8:00pm

      At the home of
      Steve Elmendorf
      2301 Connecticut Avenue, NW
      Apt. 7B
      Washington, D.C.

      $5,000 PAC
      $2,400 Individual

      To RSVP or for additional information please contact
      Carmela Clendening at(202) 485-3508 or clendening@dccc.org

      Steve Elmendorf
      ELMENDORF STRATEGIES
      GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SOLUTIONS
      900 7th Street NW Suite 750 Washington DC 20001

      Again, Elmendorf is a registered lobbyist for UnitedHealth, and his firm’s

    72. I loved this comment from Hillary’s spokesman about that N.Y. Post story citing anonymous “sources” saying she was unhappy as SoS.

      Not everyone liked our story yesterday on Hillary Clinton’s frustrations at the State Department and rumors that she might depart prematurely from President Obama’s Cabinet to reclaim her US Senate seat. Clinton’s spokesman, Philippe Reines,said, “It seems that whoever was peddling lies about imminent weddings is now doing the same about jobs. So let me be Shermanesquely clear: She loves being secretary of state and isn’t running for anything. Period.”

    73. obama the weasil caved in again and with a terrorist at that…

      ———————————–

      U.S. Accepts Offer From Tehran for Broad Talks

      By Glenn Kessler
      Saturday, September 12, 2009

      The United States has decided to ignore Iran’s refusal to discuss its nuclear program and instead accept a vague Iranian plan for talks on security issues as the opening gambit to draw Tehran into real negotiation.

      The effort to “test” Iran’s intentions, announced on Friday, came after Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said his country is skeptical of the need for new sanctions on Iran, giving the Americans little choice but to treat seriously Iran’s latest offer.

      Iran this week ruled out talks on its program, instead offering a five-page plan that it said would lay the groundwork for peace and stability in the region. The document, first posted Thursday on the Web site of ProPublica news service, made no reference to international demands that Iran suspend its efforts to enrich uranium, but did mention ending proliferation in nuclear weapons as well as a broad offer of dialogue.

      Iran’s plan was disappointing but not surprising to U.S. officials, who nonetheless decided to take at face value the offer of a dialogue. Iran has insisted that the intent of its program is peaceful, but enriching uranium can be an element in building a nuclear weapon — though Tehran has not yet demonstrated it can enrich to a weapons-grade level. “There’s language in the letter that simply says the government of Iran is willing to enter into dialogue,” State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said. “We are going to test that proposition, okay? And if Iran is willing to enter into serious negotiations, then they will find a willing participant in the United States and the other [partner] countries. If Iran dissembles in the future, as it has in the past, then we will draw conclusions from that.” Crowley stressed that the United States wants “serious engagement” on Iran’s nuclear activities and that officials would raise it at any meeting, despite its absence from the Iranian proposal.

      The other countries negotiating with Iran make up an unwieldy and often divided coalition. It includes Russia and China — skeptics of new sanctions — and the United Kingdom, France and Germany, which tend to support the U.S. position but continue to trade with Iran. Putin, according to his spokesman, told a group of foreign policy experts that sanctions “won’t bring the desired effect” and that military action “would hurt the entire region,” but that Iran needs to answer international concerns about its nuclear program.

      European foreign policy chief Javier Solona, who has been designated the chief negotiator with the Iranians for the six powers, said in a written statement that he is seeking a meeting with Iranian nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili “at the earliest possible opportunity.”

      washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/11/AR2009091103823.html

    74. NEWS ALERT, NEWS ALERT!!!! HELL HAS FROZEN OVER…SORRY AL, THE GLOBAL WARMING THING WAS JUST A PRANK!

      FROM BP
      ********************************************8

      News shocker: Dick Armey now admires Bill Clinton
      September 11, 2009 | 5:03 pm

      “Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama have made me appreciate Bill Clinton more than I did. I think that President Clinton was more involved, more responsibly and more ably, in his job as president than what we’ve seen since him. He deserves more credit than I gave him at the time.”

      latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/dick-armey-bill-clinton.html

    75. Gonzotex, that is impressive, now will they say something nice about Hillary??

      Bambi has given in to the Iranians. Of coarse he did, thats who gave him the money to get in office. They know the bomb is almost finished and Bambi is giving them time to finish it. I pray for Israel. How did we ever get this fool in office, oh yeah, he cheated his way in.

    76. Admin & confloyd I know!

      I just saw Armey on Fox with the Tea protesters, and I told my husband how much i disliked him and whola, I find this article. Go figure.

      He was one of the vilest Clinton haters around.

    77. wbboei, Heres some more commentary about the bankrupcy of the United States from the American Thinker.
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      September 11, 2009
      Is the US Government bankrupt?
      By Pete Morin
      Before we continue to debate the merits of any Obama health care plan, we need to consider a few important facts.

      By any rational means, we must consider the present condition of our Government’s financial situation. An honest look at those finances would have a prudent person conclude that our government is tacitly bankrupt. Our unfunded liabilities far exceed our assets. Adding up all unfunded liabilities for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Government sponsored pension funds gives us a figure slightly in excess of $100 TRILLION dollars. That’s TRILLION with a ‘T’. The Federal budget deficit for fiscal 2009 will be approximately $1.84 TRILLION. That’s TRILLION with a ‘T’. Over the next ten years the projected deficit will be $9 TRILLION +. That’s $100,000,000,000,000.00 — TRILLION with a ‘T’. Of course, this projected deficit comes from the Congressional Budget Office and has to be considered a conservative estimate. In 1966 the feds estimated that the cost of the Medicare program by 1990 would be approximately $9 billion dollars/year; the actual cost was $67 billion dollars/year.

      Several other government programs over the years have proven to be equally underestimated in funding. Amtrak has a yearly budget shortfall of $1 billion dollars. The Postal Service, although deemed a private entity with its pension fund provided by the government, has a $3 billion dollar deficit. And the list goes on and on…

      It’s time for Americans to realize that the good times have stopped rolling. There may be no return to a robust economy. Our future can take only one of two possible paths; either we accept our unsustainable debt and reduce government spending and taxation accordingly with a structured refinancing of the Federal debt, or face the prospect of a chaotic bankruptcy with a massive collapse of the dollar on the world market followed by a severely reduced standard of living. If it’s any indication of the way government has approached past difficulties, I’m betting on the chaotic. Stagflation on a large scale may well make the 1970’s look like high times. Job losses that will occur may well make the 1930’s look like a picnic.

      This brings us to the question of healthcare. Why would anyone with a sound mind want to entrust a bloated, fiscally irresponsible government with the job of restructuring 17% of our economy? The Feds have proven, time and again, that trusting them to run a program based on sound fiscal policy is nearly impossible. Besides restructuring our national debt, we should take the only logical course with respect to healthcare and that would be to reform the private sector by the following means. 1) Allow individuals to purchase insurance across state lines. Congress has the authority through the Commerce Clause to make this happen. Insurance companies may not like this approach since it engenders competition, which will effectively lower the cost of premiums. Isn’t this what a free market is supposed to do — promote competition? 2) Remove as many mandates as possible that now exist at the Federal and State levels. There are, currently, over 2000 mandates for various procedures that insurance companies must comply with. In vitro Fertilization, Erectile Dysfunction, Hair Transplants and other specialized procedures should be left to individuals to decide what they might actually need. Removing these barriers and allowing individuals to design their own policies will be a strong motivator in reducing the costs of an insurance premium. Many other excellent ideas for reform of healthcare, too numerous to mention here, can be found at CAHI.org, The Council for Affordable Health Insurance.

      James Madison expresses the government role with respect to its citizens clearly in Federalist 51:

      If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place, oblige it to control itself.

      The first part of Madison’s quote has been achieved, but obligations concerning government restraint with respect to the populace remain unfulfilled. Was there ever a time when self-control was a mark of our elected officials? I believe there was, but, sadly, we’ve given in to our own impulse for self-gratification and our representatives have been only too happy to indulge us.

      Time is short. Either accept responsibility for our own lives and reduce the role of government in our most important affairs, or a chaotic future with citizen against citizen and neighbor against neighbor will be our fate. Our founders and many great leaders warned us of the dangers of unlimited government; let us be wise enough to heed their words now more than ever

      I say they will put it off until there is a soviet style crash of the economy, which would be horrible.

    78. I found this @ No Quarter, it only had 17 comments. I remember Red Skelton…He Gives a Moving Explanation of the Pledge of Allegiance … The Fruad and his fascist-Islamic pretender American associates in the WH need a lesson on what it means to be an American and what a privilege it is. Not that they have the capability to understand.
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      youtube.com/watch?v=SLDRmEpUcck&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enoquarterusa%2Enet%2Fblog%2F&feature=player_embedded#

    79. Chris Dodd Is In Deep Trouble
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      They keep track of everything else. They keep lists. In some cases, they even give rewards.

      However to my knowledge, there is no reward given for the one thing Congress does best: corruption. Thus, we need a bi partisan award for that. I propose that we call it The Duke Cunningham Award.

      I realize full well that the competition for this reward would be stiff. Stiff. I mean you have good old Barney Frank with his failure of regulatory oversight which caused the housing collapse. You have tales from the crypt Pelosi with her cave in on the Public Option. And you have the Duke himself if we are going to make this reward retroactive.

      Far be it from me to belittle the accomplishments of any of these people when it comes to the fine art of corruption. But after due consideration, I am of the view that Chris Dodd has done more to earn this award than anyone else. And I believe merit and ability should be recognized.

      Certainly his kickback from Countrywide is a major factor in his favor. And then you have that wild sex romp with Ted Kennedy in that diner a few years back. His father was censured by Congress so there may be some genetic predisposition to corruption as well. In sum, there is good reason to honor Dodd as The Most Corrupt Member of Congress.

      The inscription to read: “For conduct unbecoming even a senator . . . ” Let us hope the voters of Connecticut are tired of being fucked by this motor mouthed crustacian, and have the good sense to send him packing”. The next member might think twice before he accepts a bribe.

      Let me conclude with a Pelosi type remark, reminiscent of her collapse on the public option, which one can only hope the progressives will fillet her alive for: I think Chris Dodd is a great man and a fine representative of the American People. Everything to the contrary I have said about him up to this point to the contrary nothwithstanding.

    80. U.S. Accepts Offer From Tehran for Broad Talks
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      Jan there are two ways to look at this thing: the right way and the wrong way.

      The right way is to see if for what it is: a rope a dope against bambi. Bambi, the dog who did not bark when they were slaughtering their own people who wanted democracy. The talks will go nowhere. But they buy Iran additional time. The best you can hope for is some reduction in their level of support for terrorism or global currency. That is naive.

      The wrong way is to see it as a first step toward a renunciation of nuclear weapons and their commitment to destroy Israel. Generally speaking I do not believe in pre conditions for negotiation. Here however they are essential. If you do not make these issues part of your opening demand, you will never get them.

    81. Philippe Reines,said, “It seems that whoever was peddling lies about imminent weddings is now doing the same about jobs. So let me be Shermanesquely clear: She loves being secretary of state and isn’t running for anything. Period.”
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      Whether this is true or not, I think we have to accept it as the last word on the subject, until such time as something changes. When it comes to this secretary of state job, the comment is reminiscent of something Leaned Hand said in another context: the curtain calls will be the ones you give to yourself. Besides, the real battle against tyranny is here at home.

    82. One further comment. As someone who loves the Hillary we saw in the primary, who was fighting for the middle class, I was an early supporter of her taking the secretary of state job. Others on this blog took a contrary position that she should never join his administration. My response was deferential to Hillary. But I must say I believed she would be given a relatively free hand in foreign policy and would get credit for what she was able to accomplish. On both of those points, experience has proven me wrong. The foreign policy I see now is the foreign policy which Mr. Obama espoused during the campaign and it is characterized by weakness, a disrespect toward this country which falls in line with the black liberation themes we see in his domestic policies. The outreach to people like Chavez, and the concomitant distancing of ourselves from allies like Israel and Honduras. Perhaps this is delusional on my part, and I am not a devotee of Michael Boulton. But what I am seeing now is strong evidence of a declining world power, who is too tentative to seize legitimate opportunities, but needs the cover of the group in order to act in its own self interest. Granted, it is not Bush and thank God for that. But it is far too much in the opposite direction. I could be wrong, but I do not think so.

    83. CHECK THIS OUT!!!

      this is credited to dakinikat over at riverdaughter from a tip from david sirota

      openleft.com/ (has the invitation on his site)

      House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the first time yesterday suggested she may be backing off her support of the public option. According to CNN, Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid “said they would support any provision that increases competition and accessibility for health insurance – whether or not it is the public option favored by most Democrats.”
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      S: thanks for posting this. We knew it was coming. They are spitting in the face of the progressive movement, and the American People. Let us see if people like Sirota who said I will huff and puff and blow your house down if you do this will turn the other cheek. I have a close friend who used to have lunch with Pelosi in San Francisco when she was currying support from Jimmy Herman who was the leader of the Longshoremens Union on the west coast. He tells me she is a weak individual personally but uses organizational structure to fight her battles. Remove that orgaizantional power and there is no there there.

    84. Good morning NewMexicoFan! I am glad you are on the blog too. I was beginning to think I was talking to myself–which is never a good sign.

    85. I agree, but then it is the weekend.

      We all know going against what the majority of the dimocratic voters want is not unusual for this party. We remember what they did in the Primary. I think they are really scared. They went against the people, and that only works if you bring forth a successful administration. If they have passed little, or worse pass stuff people don’t support, and they lose that majority in 2010, I know they are in trouble, as they all have to return to the people they betrayed and then failed.

      We all know they must pass something, and just like with the speeches, what every passes will be praised by the administration and the press. But it is the people who will decide this in the end. It is they who will suffer the economy, and the reduction of medical services. They will retaliate the only way they know, and that is vote the party or person they think can get them out of this mess.

      There is something wrong when most people in France are retired by 60 and in America people are now saying they cannot retire.

    86. We all know going against what the majority of the dimocratic voters want is not unusual for this party. We remember what they did in the Primary. I think they are really scared.
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      100% correct. And it is even worse. They broke the most sacred rule of the Party to do it. When you do that, you no longer have a government by laws, but a government by many. It is the essence of tyranny.

      Are they scared? If they are rational people they are scared. I would not want to be in their position myself. They have possession of the ball and if we fail on their watch, it will not much matter what Bush did.

    87. There is a tendency in elite circles–meaning the media and the party to laugh at what they did to Hillary. She has accepted it and moved on. But they do not realize what they did to her they also did to us. And we do not forget so easily.

    88. They will retaliate the only way they know, and that is vote the party or person they think can get them out of this mess.
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      That depends on whether they can corrupt the electoral process to the point that it becomes dysfunctional. 2008 proved they could.

      The real leverage is in concerted action. A collective refusal to pay taxes, a national strike, etc. But once you head down that route everything falls apart.

      At this point it is still too early. Give it another year. I do not think the republicans will get control of congress. So it will have two more years to simmer and boil over.

      The thing I am watching closest now is how the progressives react to this betrayal of what they claim to stand for. First, the public option and then Afghanistan.

      Some will shut down like a bad acid trip. Others will object vehemently and may even lead a revolt. To their dying day, big media will support Mr. Obama for the reasons discussed before. But it will be harder for some of their pundits to keep a stiff upper lip.

    89. ADMIN…PLEASE EMBED… this glenn beck clip is perfect for this article!

      Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck September 11, 2009, opened with an emotional tribute to September 11, 2001, followed by news about the NEA conference call and more about the ACORN sting in D.C.

      After Eight Years the Trade Center Sits Still the Same! WHY?

      youtube.com/watch?v=r8Z6f0CW2GE&feature=player_embedded

    90. Admin has been the most accurate compass through this entire journey. At various times, we have been called shrewish, insane and many other badges of honor. Anyone who is honest will add one additional phrase: right on about Mr. Obama from the very beginning. Chicago Rules.

    91. Thank you for the Glen Beck video. For me, although our military shows great courage, and defend our country admirable, I will always hold in great respect, the people on that airplane that took it over, without weapons, without bullet proof vest, without missiles, who built an attack team out of plain American People, who somehow, without a speech, perceived the danger, put together a successful plan, implemented it with out one dime being authorized by congress or the President.

      In so doing they saved a nation.

    92. if you don’t watch glenn beck you may not know about this new website yet… i am in the process of checking it out and thought you may want to as well. it just went up this week, and is owned and run by andrew breibart.

      biggovernment.com

    93. Beck has certainly claimed center stage at FOX. I saw O’Reilly on line and he seemed boring middle of the road casper milquetoast by comparison. O’Reilly had Rove on and we wanted to hear what Rove said. But O’Reilly was so in love with his own voice, that he butted in several times and truncated the interview with his stupid gratuitous comments. Rove is bad, but he has far more political insight that O’Reilly.

    94. I sure did not realized that there had been so little progress in EIGHT years on the world trade center site. I guess I kind of feel like the terrorists won.

    95. NMF

      I was shocked to see that too, living here in the midwest i guess I only assumed they had done something with it. SHAME ON THE MSM for not keeping america aware of this tragedy!!

      to have done nothing with it in 8 years time…..it’s worse than what the terrorists did to the towers in the first place.

      I agree 100% with everything glenn said about this.

    96. NewMexicoFan Says:
      September 12th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

      I sure did not realized that there had been so little progress in EIGHT years on the world trade center site.

      =================

      That is very odd. Prime real estate.

      Whose decision was this? When you know who, you know why.

      Cui bono says Guiliani and Bush were trading on it and don’t want it healed. But I’d think financial pressures would have done something by now.

    97. What the Republicans will learn in 2010 is they cannot defeat the unholy triangle of Big Media, ACORN/SEIU and Mr. Obama UNTIL they are able to develop a competitive ground game. They did not invent these tea parties or health care protests, but they had better learn how to capitalize on them if they have any hope of saving the country from this smiling tyrant. Until this man snookered his way into office, I never believed we could get anyone worse than Bush.

    98. jbstonesfan Says:
      September 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
      Israel should move closer to Russia and China and away from the US as long as this anti-Israeli POTUS is in power. Russia cannot be trusted, but they know Israel can and will strike if they don’t get Iran to stop their nuclear weapons program.
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      That is 100% correct. It is a matter of survival. I think that is where Bibi is going. I could be wrong, but I think it is madness to trust Obama. Sooner or later he throws everyone under the bus, and they cannot afford to let that happen. Too many in this country are in denial as to what his intentions are. He has got them bamboozled.

    99. I think it is high time for Mr. Obama to break the monotony of pretending to govern, by taking that lovely wife of his on another $80,000 night on the town to celebrate our fragile economy,desperate job situation and brand spanking new 12 trillion dollar debt limit. If he waits a few months to pay the bill, he can do so with inflated dollars.

    100. The Tea PArty protest is going on ya all and it is big. MAybe 200,000. I hear different numbers. Of course the MM is down playing it. My hope is we get SOME of the Congress OUT of office in 2010 and put the Be Jesus in them!

    101. Morning Pinkers:

      Here is an important development as regards a Tobin Tax, here being advocated by AFL-CIO.

      from a communication I received this am:

      Tobin Tax ( h…. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_tax )

      “A Tobin tax is the suggested tax on all trade of currency across borders. Named after the economist James Tobin, the tax is intended to put a penalty on short-term speculation in currencies. The original tax rate he proposed was 1%, which was subsequently lowered to between 0.1% and 0.25%.

      On August 15, 1971, Richard Nixon announced that the US dollar would no longer convert to gold, effectively ending the Bretton Woods system. Tobin suggested a new system for international currency stability, and proposed that such a system include an international charge on foreign-exchange transactions.

      The idea lay dormant for more than 20 years and was revived by the advent of the South East Asia economic crisis in the late 1990s. In 1997 Ignacio Ramonet, editor of Le Monde Diplomatique, renewed the debate around the Tobin tax with an editorial titled “Disarming the markets”. Ramonet proposed to create an association for the introduction of this tax, which was named ATTAC (Association for the Taxation of financial Transactions for the Aid of Citizens). The tax then became an issue of the global justice movement or alter-globalization movement and a matter of discussion not only in academic institutions but even in streets and in parliaments in the UK, France, and around the world.”

      Note that the amount that they demand, as that in Congress, is quite wimpy, but it is a start
      that is getting the looters howling. What is missing is a tax on DERIVATIVES, and one that starts at a full 1%.

      This is where we can do some very effective work in advocating a “Tobin Tax” on derivatives as the key demand for any ‘Mass Strike’ mobilization, as some are talking about mass strikes without articulating a programmatic plan of reform as leadership.

      A mass mobilization which has started to occur around health care and the Tea Parties (which are being manipulated by Republican ‘Austrian School” operatives and insiders like Dick Armey) must evolve to confront this crisis at its core, the derivatives monster and the bankrupt speculators that own both parties. This is a possible means of evolving a shift and political disintegration of both parties as must happen.

      On the war front, be aware that General McCrystal’s Report comes out soon, with evil snakes as Pelosi potentially taking a stance against a troop expansions, which is good, only to give the democrats some left cover, especially as they continue to go further into the realm of outright fascism as regards the economy, etc.

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      As should be obvious to everyone by now, we do have alternatives to getting out from under this financial morass brought upon us be the Banks and our government. We’ve done all we can do to stablized our economy under the direction of Obama’s bosom buddy, Geithner, who in effect, has thrown his hands up in the air and said the economy is turning around when we know in fact, it hasn’t gotten any better, it’s gotten worse. A growing economy produces jobs. So far the job market is still a black-hole. Many people have given up sending out resumes and knocking on doors as they have for the past 6mos to a yr. and their benefits have run out. Stabilization of the housing market is a myth perpetuated by the president. Loan Modifications are relegated to 5yr IO balloon notes that advance incrementally every year until they reach market price.

      In short, Obama has done nothing for the American people except break every single promise he made during his campaign.

    102. BHO: Here is an honor that you can never receive in your lifetme.You are a sham very carefully planned and executed by a group of traitorus politicians and muslim supporters.
      Hillary is the real President of our country and you and your friends and supporters are never going to marginalize and destroy her as you have planned and now the world is ready for her lo undo the great harm that you have inflicted on all nations that are fighting for peace and prosperity than you will never bring.Mrs. Obama is a very poor choice to spread the good words about you and your den of cheats and liars,Bring her home if you can for the two of you represent a sad choice by stupid and greedy political nincompoops.

      By ABM91 Congratulations Hillary. We here at Big Pink are with you on your journey to the Oval Office

    103. Her it is my freinds.

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      Remarks Upon Receipt of the Roosevelt Institute’s Four Freedoms Award at the Roosevelt Institute’s Four Freedoms Medals Gala Dinner

      Hillary Rodham Clinton
      Secretary of State
      Waldorf-Astoria

      New York City

      September 11, 2009

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      SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. Thank you so very much. Oh, what an evening and what inspiration I certainly have derived from the stories and the words of our four honorees. I am deeply grateful for that very kind introduction, Dick. I thank everyone associated with the Institute, particularly Anne Roosevelt, who has been a friend for a number of years. I am also pleased that my successor and friend, Senator Gillibrand is here somewhere in the ballroom, along with another wonderful friend and colleague, Representative Jerry Nadler. And it is only fitting that we would be graced by the presence not only of their Royal Highnesses, but also of my colleague, the foreign minister, and so many friends and supporters of the Institute and the work that it has done during this special week where we celebrate 400 years of our relationship with the Netherlands.

      So this is, by all accounts, an extraordinary moment, and especially for this event to be held at the end of a long and emotional day for our city, our state, and our country. But I often believe that it is moments like this that are not only, as Dick said, about yesterdays, but about tomorrows. And Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt were all about tomorrows. They embodied American leadership at its best. The exemplified the true partnership that they brought to our nation’s challenges. They, in effect, demonstrated the real power of principle being a driving force for change and challenge. They mobilized the might of our nation at a time when their leadership and understanding was especially needed. And it is a great honor, and I am deeply touched to receive this Four Freedoms Medal.

      I am an admirer, I think as we all are, of both of these great Americans. As some of you might remember, I used to have imaginary conversations with Eleanor. (Laughter.) And she gave me a lot of really good advice. (Laughter.) I often remarked about how there was nothing I did as First Lady that Eleanor had not already done. I would go to a place in New York or a place in India, and be greeted by some excited person saying, “Oh, we haven’t had a First Lady here since Eleanor Roosevelt.” I discovered that she had blazed trails that were not only unique for her time, but really stood the test of time. But when she visited, it was not just a simple drop-in. She would listen, she would learn, she would bring that information back to her husband, and she would continue to push for the kinds of changes that were absolutely necessary.

      And of course, President Roosevelt and the Four Freedoms speech and the declaration, the real call to action that what he said still resonates through the years, shaped much of the work that Eleanor did on her own as she chaired the drafting committee for the United Nation’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a document that enshrines the Four Freedoms in its preamble. So when leaders from around the world gather for the UN’s General Assembly in about ten days, we will do so in part as inheritors of her work and wisdom.

      I think that so much that President Roosevelt said and did during another challenging time in American history stands very large today. Looking at what was done with economic and other difficulties here at home, the rallying of a nation to continue to believe in itself, the optimism that marked everything he did, and the vision that he articulated that helped Americans transcend their personal problems and the troubles of a nation provided a lodestar for every succeeding generation as to how to move forward in the face of adversity.

      We bear that responsibility today. And we are called to respond as courageously, as he and his generation did. We therefore should ask ourselves now, as you’ve heard from our four honorees, just what the Four Freedoms mean. Times have changed. Circumstances have certainly altered. But the fundamental truth of the Four Freedoms stands as a stark reminder of what is expected of us. So that even though the circumstances may be different, our response and how we are guided in acting remains the same.

      Freedom of expression, for example, is no longer just defined by whether citizens can go to the town square, or the town hall, and criticize their government without fear of retribution. Advances in technology, from email and blogs to Twitter and text messaging, have opened up new forums for exercising free speech, and created new targets for those who would suppress the open exchange of knowledge and ideas.

      Often, as we deal with these problems in the State Department now, we see that human rights defenders, civil society advocates, bloggers, and journalists are now being targeted for harassment and prosecution, even murder.

      We see the continuing imprisonment of Aung San Suu Kyi, the recipient in absentia of the Freedom from Fear Award in 2006. We see the murders of journalists in Russia who are trying to expose the truth of criminal activity and governmental misconduct. We see Iran using arbitrary arrests to detain nearly 4,000 people for voicing or reporting complaints about the conduct of recent elections. And then we see the consequences of what happens in Venezuela or China, or elsewhere, when people believe that they are just exercising the universal right to speak and be heard.

      Just weeks ago, an award-winning journalist and human rights activist was abducted and shot to death while investigating human rights violations in Chechnya. And while I welcome Russian President Medvedev’s pledge to foster independent media, actions speak louder than words. Dozens of journalists have been killed in Russia in the last decade. Most of the murders are unsolved. Those responsible for such crimes should be brought to justice. And we in the United States have to stand firmly on the side of those who speak out. (Applause.)

      We will continue to form partnerships with those who share our values, like the Government of the Netherlands. On Monday, the United States will take its place as a returning member of the UN Human Rights Council. When I made the decision that we would rejoin the Human Rights Council – (applause) – there were those who questioned that. How can you be part of something that is so contrary to the values that we espouse, that we wish to uphold, not only here at home but around the world? Well, we are going in to the arena. One of our priorities will be upholding universal standards for freedom of expression as we combat intolerance and discrimination everywhere it rears it head. (Applause.)

      And we are reinvigorating the Global Internet Freedom Task Force as a forum for addressing challenges to internet freedom around the world, and we are urging United States media companies to take a proactive role in challenging foreign governments’ demands for censorship and surveillance of their citizens. (Applause.)

      President Obama and I are committed to defending the Freedom of Expression on the new terrain of the 21st century so that, someday, people everywhere will have unencumbered access to the flow of information and the tools of expression – tools which are more abundant and more powerful today than at any time in history.

      Similarly, we wish to stand firmly on the side of the freedom of religion. As President Obama noted in his historic speech in Cairo, faith should bring us together. That’s why we have welcomed international efforts such as Turkey and Spain’s leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations. It’s one of the reasons that on my first trip as Secretary of State I visited Indonesia – the world’s most populous Muslim country and a secular democracy. It’s why we are encouraging people of different religions to come together not only in dialogue, but in service. In projects ranging from Malaria prevention in Africa to disaster assistance in South Asia, we are laying a foundation for good works – and good relations – among the world’s religious communities.

      Learning to respect the faith of our neighbors should be the price of admission into the 21st century. Now, in some cases, threats to religious freedom come from authoritarian regimes. Some Eritreans have been imprisoned in shipping containers for seeking to practice their non-violent beliefs. In others cases, bias and discrimination by majorities toward minority faiths or hateful ideologies can threaten the freedom of belief. So we must speak out forcefully against these wrongs wherever they exist.

      Now, some claim that the United Nations can best protect the freedom of religion by adopting what is called an “anti-defamation” policy that would restrict the freedom of expression and the freedom of religion. I, obviously, strongly disagree. An individual’s ability to practice their religion should have no bearing on others individuals’ freedom of speech. The protection of speech about religion is particularly important since persons of different faiths will inevitably hold divergent views on religious questions. And these differences should be met with tolerance, not suppression of discourse. And the United States will stand against the idea of defamation of religion in the United Nations General Assembly and the Human Rights Council. (Applause.)

      Even in a century of unprecedented plenty, Roosevelt’s third freedom – the freedom from want – is elusive for millions of families in our own country, and tens and tens of millions around the world. This freedom must be central to our foreign policy. We advance our own security, prosperity, and values when we work to improve the material conditions of people everywhere. Our development efforts provide a platform for collaboration with new partners, not only with other governments but with the private sector, the not-for-profit sector, with citizen groups and civil society. And we have a lot of work to do to address hunger, climate change, and disease.

      President Obama and I are committed to elevating and integrating development as a core component of our global agenda. We have to produce results for people. People have to believe that moving away from extremism, moving toward democracy, moving toward more openness in their societies, will put food on the table, and will provide education for their children and healthcare in their time of need.

      Because many people suffer in unspeakable conditions without the basic necessities of life, the President asked me to lead a whole-of-government effort to tackle hunger, poverty and under-nutrition by encouraging agricultural-led growth. We are working toward new solutions that can improve agricultural productivity, expand markets, and deliver millions from hunger and undernourishment that stalk the world’s poor.

      Central to this challenge, like so many others, will be our campaign to achieve equal opportunities for women, who are the key drivers of economic growth and social stability in every successful country in the world. Societies where women are accorded their rights and provided with opportunities for basic services – education, health, gainful employment – make progress and expand prosperity. (Applause.) In nations where these rights are denied, stagnation, decay, and corruption are often the rule.

      Now, in order to address the challenges, we are focusing on women, as you heard Dick say. It has been, of course, a longstanding passion and commitment of mine, but it is also the smart approach for our foreign policy. So we are training women entrepreneurs through an initiative in Latin America, and we’re supporting micro-credit lending in Africa and Asia, and we’re helping women gain access to global financial and trade networks.

      Freedom from want has to be a particular commitment that really engages our citizens. There are so many ways each and every one of us can make a contribution.

      And finally, freedom from fear, which was the most immediate concern to President Roosevelt’s audience in 1941. As the war ravaging Europe edged closer to the United States, fear returned as a tangible feature and led to such regrettable decisions as the internment of Japanese in our country.

      Today, of all days, we are reminded that our citizenship and residence on this continent do not grant us immunity from the vagaries of history. But rather than becoming prisoners of fear, we know that we can rise to the challenge if we stay true to ourselves. We can think about how President Roosevelt would have summoned us to really follow our better selves as we took on an enemy that showed no respect, no conscience, no humanity.

      Even as FDR exhorted the American people in his time to escalate weapons production, he envisioned a post-war world of greatly reduced armaments where international peace would rest on a foundation of freedom. And President Obama shares that vision. We are committed to working with concerned nations throughout the international community to reverse the spread of nuclear weapons and to do much more to prevent their use. (Applause.) We are acting in concert with countries to isolate and defeat violent extremists. And we are working within the international community for the resolution of deadly conflicts that hold millions in fear and misery. And I want especially to thank the Government of the Netherlands for their stalwart partnership and for their alliance with us in Afghanistan, where American and Dutch soldiers fight side-by-side and even die side-by-side.

      Violence and conflicts often exact a disproportionate toll on women and children. I saw that recently in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I’ve seen it in my travels across the world. But meeting with survivors of rape, which is now used increasingly as a tool of war, was shattering. The atrocities described to me distill evil to its basest form. And the United States and our partners throughout the world will not just condemn these attacks and all those who commit them and abet them, but work harder to try to find ways to prevent them. It’s why I thank the foreign minister and the Government of the Netherlands for coming up with the idea of having a forum about how to prevent violence against girls and women that we will be co-sponsoring during the UN General Assembly. (Applause.)

      These are crimes against humanity. They don’t just harm a single individual, or a single family, or village or group. They shred the fabric that weaves us together as human beings. This criminal outrage against women must be stopped. And we are going to – your government is going to be providing more funding for medical care and counseling and security and legal support to prevent and respond to the Congo’s epidemic of gender-based violence. (Applause.)

      But we also must condemn violence based on sexual orientation and gender identity. (Applause.) In country after country after country, young men and women are persecuted, are singled out, even murdered in cold blood, because of who they love or just based on claims that they are gay. We are starting to track violence against the LGBT community, because where it happens anywhere in the world, the United States must speak out against it and work for its end. (Applause.) Through our annual human rights report, we are documenting human rights abuses against LGBT communities worldwide. And we are seeking out partners at the United Nations such as Brazil, France, Sweden and the Netherlands to help us address these human rights abuses.

      We will be pushing for passage of a Security Council resolution on sexual and gender violence at the UN General Assembly, and we hoping many other nations will join this cause.

      So these four freedoms are not just a celebration of the past. They are a reminder and a challenge of what is expected of us. Now, after President Roosevelt’s speech, another son of New York, Norman Rockwell, created those four iconic paintings that you have seen on the screen. It took seven months of non-stop work during which he lost 15 pounds. If I had any artistic talent, I would try to follow that model. (Laughter.) And when Rockwell was finished, the Treasury Department sent his paintings on a tour around the country in a successful effort to encourage the purchase of war bonds. And the paintings were accompanied by essays on each of the four freedoms. And one of them sought to remind Americans what they were fighting for. And here’s what it said:

      “When we yield our sons,” and we would add today ‘and daughters’ “to war, it is in the trust that their sacrifice will bring to us and our allies no inch of alien soil, no selfish monopoly of the world’s resources or trade, but only the privilege of winning for all peoples the most precious gifts in the orbit of life—freedom of body and soul, of movement and enterprise, of thought and utterance, of faith and worship, of hope and charity, of a humane fellowship with all [humankind].”

      Our adversaries and our battles today may be different, but our objectives have not changed. These rights are no less relevant and these freedoms are no less precious. The principles put forward by President Roosevelt are no less deserving of our defense.

      In response to President Roosevelt’s call to action, the citizens of the United States went to work. In response to the attacks of 9/11, the citizens of the United States went to serve.

      In the future, we will be called to make sacrifices of our own. We may not be able now to foresee what they will be. But let us resolve to summon up that vision that Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt provided for their times which still is as important to our times. Let us forge again our commitment to carry on in service of these four universal and uniquely American freedoms.

      Thank you very much.

    104. Too bad that speech was not handled live, as it would have been an inspiration. But then, they really don’t want people to see that do they.

    105. By the way, they inflated the number on the tea party today, just so it would not look like anything big. However, I think 200,000 a large crowd.

    106. NEVER INTERRUPT AN ENEMY IN THE MIDDLE OF A MISTAKE–Bonaparte.

      ACORN scandal: baltimore city state’s attorneys may bring charges…against the (fake) pimp and pro!
      By American Girl in Italy on September 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM in ACORN, Sara in Italy (@ No Quarter)

      STATEMENT OF STATE’S ATTORNEYS OFFICE FOR BALTIMORE CITY RELATIVE TO THE ALLEGED BALTIMORE ACORN INCIDENT

      Baltimore, MD – September 11, 2009 – We have received inquiries from citizens and the media asking whether the Baltimore City State’s Attorneys Office would initiate a criminal investigation for acts allegedly committed at ACORN offices located in Baltimore. The only information received in reference to this alleged criminal behavior was a YouTube video. Upon review by this office, the video appears to be incomplete. In addition, the audio portion could possibly have been obtained in violation of Maryland Law, Annotated Code of Maryland Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article §10-402, which requires two party consent.

      If it is determined that the audio portion now being heard on YouTube was illegally obtained, it is also illegal under Maryland Law to willfully use or willfully disclose the content of said audio. The penalty for the unlawful interception, disclosure or use of it is a felony punishable up to 5 years.

      Would it be really cynical to wonder if her decision to possibly prosecute the makers of the video, and not the ACORN employees, could be politically motivated or biased?

      Now, perhaps Hannah Giles and James O’Keefe did violate some code about video taping without consent, but is that really the focus and main concern of Patricia Jessamy?

      ACORN employees were instructing two people on how to manipulate the law, falsify federal documents and provide cover for underage sex slaves. And she wants to prosecute the people who exposed them?

      Now, it’s no No-Doz worthy scandal, but Jessamy was accused by her opponent of accepting dirty money, and siding with criminals over cops.

      Maybe there is a pattern of behavior there…

      (Note: the Baltimore City Attorney is a huge huge huge Obama supporter)

      Life is good.

      If you were advising the enemy what to do in a situation like this, would you in your wildest dreams advise them to take this tack???????? First, it does not pass the red face test. Second, if you are dealing with a Machiavellian, he will come forward and dare you to prosecute–and then turn it into your worst nightmare. Third, if you want to protect privacy, find a better case to do it with.

    107. By the way, they inflated the number on the tea party today, just so it would not look like anything big. However, I think 200,000 a large crowd.
      —————————————–
      That is a huge crowd. And it will grow and grow as Mr. Obama proves himself incapable of solving our economic problems. One day, even he will realize the corner he has painted our country into.

    108. You have to see the picture overhead of the crowds. Michelle malkin is saying 2 million, I don’t know if that is true, but it is @ least in the hundres of thousands. Apparently they couldn’t get a permit for the “mall”…hmmm so they are spread out. Please post the picture Admin …And BArry is in Minnesota…COWARD!

      michellemalkin.com/2009/09/12/celebrating-the-912-rallies/

    109. The Dick Armey comment does not surprise me. When you are out of the political system, it is easier to view events objectively. He is an economist, and would agree with alot of what Bill did. And, I do think he loves this country, and sees no light at the end of the tunnel Mr. Obama is taking us down. It is almost as if patriots on both parties are trying to find ways to deal with this Obama delusion without harming the country at a very vulnerable time, where it could easily go one way or the other.

    110. Did Nancy Pelosi deliberately mislead the states on certification.

      http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

      Some Canadian Journo has copies of 2 documents signed by Pelosi.

      The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.

      One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

      The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President.

    111. You have to see the picture overhead of the crowds. Michelle malkin is saying 2 million, I don’t know if that is true, but it is @ least in the hundres of thousands. Apparently they couldn’t get a permit for the “mall”…hmmm so they are spread out. Please post the picture Admin …And BArry is in Minnesota…COWARD!

      michellemalkin.com/2009/09/12/celebrating-the-912-rallies/
      ———————————————
      Wonderful news!!!!! The people behind Obama have awakened a sleeping giant perhaps. As Frankfurther said: we should not despair when wisdom comes late because too often it never comes at all.

    112. As Frankfurther said: we should not despair when wisdom comes late because too often it never comes at all.
      ***************************

      I really like that saying

    113. Celebrating the 9/12 rallies; Update: Turnout estimated at 2 million
      By Michelle Malkin • September 12, 2009 10:06 AM

      I can’t make it to Washington DC today for the national 9/12 march, but I’m with all the marchers in spirit.

      It’s been an unprecedented year for limited government activism. It would never have been possible without the early initiative of grass-roots leaders in the #tcot community on Twitter, Smart Girl Politics #DontGo — and concerned moms like Keli Carender and Amanda Grosserode who stood up in their communities against reckless spending in Washington before anyone was listening. Before the cable news was paying attention. Before it became fashionable for politicians to latch on.

      Activists were derided as amateurs who couldn’t turn out a crowd. Then they were smeared as corporate shills. They were criticized for not having a coherent message. Then they were mocked for ideological single-mindedness. They are resented by professional strategists who accuse them of organizing empty protests that won’t translate into electoral gains. But the movement has given birth to a new generation of movers and shakers who have rejected establishment partisan politics for nimble, Internet-facilitated, issues-based advocacy.

      The success of the Tea Party movement and its allies/successors shows that there’s no monopoly on “community organizing.”

      You are the change we’ve been praying for.

      March on!

      ***

      Livecam of the D.C. rally here. Wow!

      The Tea Party Express blog is here.

      12:34pm Eastern: Police estimate 1.2 million in attendance. ABC News reporting crowd at 2 million.

      Teeny, tiny fringe, huh?

      ***

    114. POLICE ESTIMATES 1.2 MILLION!!!!!!!!!

      COMMENT FROM BP
      ****************

      LOL … “MILLIONS OF “THE WORST PERSON’S IN THE WORLD”

    115. # gonzotx Says:
      September 12th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

      Armey, All I remember of him his his hatred of the Clinton’s so it surprised me.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Exactly why I won’t criticize the likes of Wilson after his outburst. He’s helping our cause. If the purists think decorum trumps the Truth and freedom of speech;

      Two things I’ve never seen as a gravestone epitaph:

      “She was the BEST HouseKeeper” or “His Purism Changed the World.”

    116. wbboei, I loved your description of Dodd, a motormouthed crustation. Perfect. Yes, we need an award for the most corrupt.

      The lefties Icon has passed on Fidel Castor! Bambi willl probably fly the flag at half mast.

    117. gonzotx:

      “Activists were derided as amateurs who couldn’t turn out a crowd. Then they were smeared as corporate shills. They were criticized for not having a coherent message.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~

      From what I understand, Cindy Sheehan has been at the core of the 9/12 turnout. Kennedy’s funeral neutralized her off shore protest at MV. The march on DC kind of makes up for it.

    118. Is it true that Obama is running around in Minnesota. Why isn’t he standing there at Ground Zero right now? Does He think it would offend the Muslim World. If so, then someone needs to tell him that many in the Muslim World feel the same sense of tragedy we do. But if they told this to Obama, he would refer the matter to Mr. Axelrod, who would say fine, but how many of them vote?

    119. I loved your description of Dodd, a motormouthed crustation.
      ——————————————————-
      That is the frontal view. If you look at his profile, he looks more like a reptile, with a darting tongue.

    120. wbboei, I just can’t stand to listen to him talk, its like chalk on chalkboard creek. He irritates me beyond belief and this man loves to hear himself talk as much as Bambi does.

    121. I bet there is some cussing going on in the WH this morning with all those CRAZY teabaggers out there hollering to end corruption. Which means Bambi needs to pack his bags and go back to the mafia state of Illinois.

    122. Attention all you freeloaders that we call our representatives in Washington.
      Your gravey train is now in control of the people that you have deceived and abandoned for too long.We will no longer have to beg you for some crumbs from your trickledown loaves of bread that you expect to keep you in office from cradle to grave.Well you
      scumbags are no longer in charge of every part of our lives and you have a price to pay for grubby tenures.Perks for jerks and pork for payola are gone with your jobs as new elections are soon due.If you want to serve us we that put you into office,get behind Hillary Rodham Clinton to reclaim her real victory that you stole and presented to the unvetted green horn from the mob in chicago that waved a race card in your two faces instead of a legal and valid birth certificate.This is not a threat but a promise from millions of angry patriotic REAL live
      TRUE AMERICANS.If you need help come to us not your lobby bankrollers.

      By ABM91 Denying me health care because of my age is not a threat to me.I will keep working for my longevity and the strength to keep your feet to the fire until you dance your hip hop a–out of our lives.Please do not leave trash behind .Take him with you

    123. wbb:

      “That is the frontal view. If you look at his profile, he looks more like a reptile, with a darting tongue.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Exactly, the draconian side-view of an Iguana, double chin and all! 🙂

    124. Better to be a piano player in a whorehouse than a dimocrat right now. In that case, Obama’s people could help you get a stimulus loan.

    125. Beck just had a black man on stating that what is going on in this country is the Saul-Alinsky/Socialist group has taken over the democratic party and is also taking over the country… Bullsh(*!!

      In my belief what is going on is…there is a group ultra rich people (Soros and etc.) that are trying to take over the WORLD and have changed the face of several countries so far. Now they want to get the United States because this country is the life’s blood of all the others. THe last eight years they used the bible thumpers to make headway in the long term plan, now they are using the left (socialist/maxist) using the Alinsky method of control to do it along with the Chicago mob, Nation of ISlam, New Black Panther Party.

      If we continue to just believe in the simplest terms of bible thumpers vs. the left, we will FOREVER be in this limbo of the Republicans vs. the Democrats and will play into the hands of these people who are running this country. THese people manage this in complete animonity, WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE!!

    126. Sorry I posted that Fidel was dead, he is not, one of his comrades is. Who the hell cares except the little communists that in power now.

    127. Here is a link to CNN’s analysis of Obama’s making “Homes Affordable Program”.

      h.. w… cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/31/homeowners.mortgage/index.html?iref=newssearch

      Bank of America is the biggest offender; feigned under staffing, not versed in gov guidelines,
      the dog ate the client’s financials… etc..

      Obama has no regulations in place for helping homeowners as part of the Bank’s Bail-Out pkg funded by Tax-Payers. This is an unforgivable omission.

      From what I’ve read lately, BOA is on shaky ground.

    128. confloyd: *snicker*

      Just a wee comment. Yesterday on my way home I saw this billboard for a local car lot advertising and it had these 3 monkeys on it and it was saying something about “no monkey business” .. it wouldn’t surprise me if the “racist” police don’t yank that off the billboard and go after the car lot. Never in a million years would I have thought I’d go by a billboard and that pop into my head. We are scewed.

    129. GREAT 9/12 PROTEST VIDEO FOUND @ BP…PLEASE EMBED
      ********************

      youtube.com/watch?v=-VMXz6xGeqc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcamille424%2Ewordpress%2Ecom%2F2009%2F09%2F11%2Fthe%2Dapple%2Din%2Dthis%2Dcase%2Dthe%2Dnut%2Ddoesnt%2Dfall%2Dfar%2Dfrom%2Dthe%2Dtree%2F%23comment%2D312863&feature=player_embedded#t=11

    130. wbboei, At least that piano player in the whorehouse has a JOB, thanks to Obama and Acorn, these must be the jobs their talking about.

    131. c-span covered the entire dc 912 event with no commentary and it was terrific.
      They’re going to reurn the whole thin on Monday at 8pm.

      My fav parts;
      DeMint saying, “The president told us he was going to ‘call us out’ the other night.
      well Mr. prez, we’re out.
      Welcome to waterloo!”

      The other best moment was whne a black speaker got up (can’t remeber his name) and siad, “I just wanted you guys to see a black guy speak without a teleprompter”

      ROTF!!!!!!!!! Crowd estimates range from 100,00 to 1.5 million and more.

    132. Heres another of Bambi’s foreign policy blunders. You just can’t suddenly not take care of people to please the other side. This is disgusting. THis is from TIme.

      Hunger Strikers Ask U.S. to Help Iranian Dissidents in Iraq
      By Gaëlle Faure / London Saturday, Sep. 12, 2009Iranian protester Farzaneh Dadkhah is helped after collapsing on the sixth day of a hunger strike outside the US embassy in central London.
      Shaun Curry / AFP / Getty
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      Nearly every day, an ambulance comes to pick up one of the 12 Iranian hunger strikers camping out in front of the U.S. embassy in London. After a month and a half without food, some have suffered fainting spells, others vision loss or heart attacks. But the ambulance soon brings them back, because they refuse to be given IV drips. The strikers are relatives of Iranian dissidents living in a camp in central Iraq that was taken over by Iraqi police once U.S. troops had handed over control of the area. Their message to the U.S. is clear: protect their relatives and make Iraq release the 36 prisoners they took after a bloody raid of the camp at the end of July.

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Outside the U.S. embassy in London’s Grosvenor Square, Farzaneh Hosseini points to her 60-year-old father half asleep on a cot. He hasn’t eaten in 44 days; his siblings in the camp in Iraq are starving themselves too. His other daughter, Hoda, a doctor who watches over the strikers, says he and the others have reached a point where their blood pressure is so low they could die at any time. “I hope the U.S. fulfills its promise to the people of Camp Ashraf soon,” says Farzaneh.


      
Camp Ashraf, some 40 miles north of Baghdad, is the base for the controversial People’s Mujahedin Organization of Iran, also known as the MEK. A formerly-armed group that critics say resembles a cult, the MEK helped overturn the Shah in 1979, but in the ’80s clashed with former Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ruhollah Khomeini and fled Iran. Saddam Hussein let the exiles set up bases in Iraq — Camp Ashraf is the last standing — and gave the group arms and training to help him fight his war with Iran.

      � 

      After the fall of Saddam in 2003, U.S. forces were protecting Camp Ashraf’s approximately 3,400 inhabitants as part of an agreement in which the MEK traded in their arms in exchange for “protected persons” status under the Geneva Convention. (The U.S. considers the MEK a terrorist organization, though it has reportedly tapped the group for intelligence on Iran’s nuclear program). But ever since the U.S. handed sovereignty back to the Iraqis in June, Camp Ashraf no longer feels like a safe haven. On July 28, clashes between camp dwellers and Iraqi forces left 11 Iranians dead, scores more wounded and 36 imprisoned. Now the remaining MEK members in the camp live in fear of being sent back to Iran and thrown in prison, or being displaced within Iraq, where they face deep antagonism for their former ties to Saddam.
      (At Tehran’s Bidding? Iraq Cracks Down on a Controversial Camp)


      
With Baghdad and Tehran getting increasingly close, some observers think the raid was an attempt to appease Iran’s ayatullahs, who consider MEK members terrorists. “This situation was predictable the day Saddam’s regime fell,” says Karim Pakzad, a Middle East expert at Paris’ Institute of Strategic and International Relations (IRIS). “It’s understandable that the Iraqis want to extend their sovereignty to a camp of former militants, whose presence they can no longer stand. But it’s also become a humanitarian question: what to do with these people now?”

      � 

      Since the raid, women from the camp have written letters to the U.N. claiming the Iraqi forces threatened them with rape. Both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have called for an investigation of excessive use of force, while an Iraqi court has ordered the prisoners’ release. But the Iraqi government has kept them locked up, saying the violence only broke out after the dissidents refused to let the police establish a base at the camp.


      
Relatives of those living in the camp fear repeat violence, and say the camp’s food, water and medical supplies have recently become severely limited. Samer Muscati, a researcher at Human Rights Watch, hopes the bloodshed is not a sign of things to come in Iraq: “Civilians have to be given basic human rights considerations, whether or not they’re protected under an agreement.”

      � 

      Hunger strikers in Camp Ashraf — along with those starving themselves in sympathy in Washington D.C., London, Berlin, and Ottawa — are demanding that the U.S. take back protective control of the camp. In the long term, they’d like permanent U.N. protection for the dissidents. Several lawmakers and lawyer groups in Britain are voicing their support. On Sept. 9, London-based law firm Finers Stephens Innocent released a legal opinion calling on Iraq to respect the Geneva Convention in protecting the camp dwellers — and insisting the U.S. ensure their safety. (Full disclosure: Finers Stephens Innocent has represented TIME in the past.)


      
Middle East experts say it’s unlikely, however, that the U.S. would take back control of the camp. “It would be difficult go backward now that the Iraqi government is recovering sovereignty,” says Pakzad of the IRIS. “The best they and other humanitarian-minded nations could do would be to accept [the camp dwellers] as refugees.” A small patrol of U.S. troops is still stationed at Camp Ashraf, but video footage of the July raid shows they did not interfere — some even withdrew into an SUV and rolled up their windows as Iranians begged them for help.

      � 

      In London, the protesters say that if one of them dies, others will replace them. “I will continue my hunger strike until my family and friends are protected,” says Khalil Abadi, a middle-aged man speaking breathlessly as he hangs on to a podium to address supporters on his 44th day without food. Someone helps him walk slowly back to his cot, and he lies down again, facing the U.S. embassy. Whether or not the strikers continue to go hungry, Camp Ashraf’s fate depends on who has more influence on Iraq: the U.S. or Iran. And that’s a contest the U.S. would be loath to lose.

    133. Obama has agreed to one on one talks with North Korea, WTF, happened to the six party talks?? What has happened that has caused all these concessions to Iran and North Korea???

      Hillary always wanted 6-party talks, well I guess we have sold ourselves to the highest bidder.

    134. Barack: You can steal an election. You can take the oath–twice. You can introduce a radical agenda. You can unleash your hit squads. You can diss the United States before its enemies. You can control the Media. But at some point you reach a tipping point. Yes, you can.

      I think the Joe Wilson comment was the tipping point. The DailyKos money blitz financed by the SEIU and Soros reaction confirmed it. If Mr. Obama wants to remain politically viable, he needs to turn this economy around quickly. Time is of the essence.

    135. Obama has agreed to one on one talks with North Korea, WTF, happened to the six party talks?? What has happened that has caused all these concessions to Iran and North Korea???
      ———————————–
      The key player in the group of six was China. His decision to go it alone suggests he has lost China. It may relate to the currency issue, or a whole host of things. He is going to China soon. He will get a cheap healdline. But will he accomplish anything meaningful? Let us hope he gets a better reception than he did with Putin.

    136. Interestingly, he has got the former Republican Governor from Utah as his Ambassador to China. He has been identified as a potential presidential candidate. Interesting to see how this plays out behind the scenes.

    137. The report I just saw on CNN portrayed the teabag protestors basically as misinformed and fringe (at least by the reporter I saw). The reporter kept describing the extreme views of protestors and they interviewed some folk who clearly were more of the extreme types. This is the first bit of coverage I’ve seen today so perhaps CNN had different coverage earlier but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the way they have been presenting it—they will do all they can to spin it as something inconsequential…

      From what I have read online it’s been quite an event…..and a huge crowd..

    138. To repeat, the most important thing Mr. Obama can be doing at this point is not chairing committees at the UN, or galavanting around over seas. Nobody here cares about that. He needs to focus exclusively on this economy, look like he is doing so and turn the whole thing around like he promised in his campaign. That is the litimus. Just do it.

    139. The report I just saw on CNN portrayed the teabag protestors basically as misinformed and fringe (at least by the reporter I saw). The reporter kept describing the extreme views of protestors and they interviewed some folk who clearly were more of the extreme.
      ————————————————
      CNN is nothing more than an extension of the Obama campaign. The welfare of the country is not their concern.

    140. This was a clear case of entrapment. If a news organization can engage in it. Generally speaking, an entrapment occurs when the police commit one element of the crime. Here the actor was a news organization. Nevertheless, it is a 60 Minutes kind of journalism I am not keen on.

      …………………………………………………………

      Can’t agree on that. These guys went out of their way to help what they thought were criminals. They didnt bat an eyelid to prostitution, tax evasion or the trafficking of kids for gods know what. They openly wanted to help someone doing criminal activity. Its one thing to try and entrap someone into sex in a public place, but these guys at Acorn went to a whole new level of engaging advice against law enforcement officials and tax officials and against every american taxpayers.
      —————————————————
      I was speaking legally. It would be entrapment if the police did it. It is not entrapment if a news organization does it.

    141. The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.

      One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

      The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President.
      —————————————–
      That one is very interesting. If I were Judge Carter, I might grant a subpoena to bring in Dean, Pelosi, and Godzilla to explain this incongruity.
      It would make me curious.

    142. I hope people come to see Mr. Olberman not as a progressive but as a $7 million dollar shill paid to promote a corporate agenda. Lord knows, much as he screams and postures he is not one of them. Far worse however, he is an enemy of the truth.

    143. Not One Peep On Yahoo News About the TeaParty Rally in Washington DC. How can a million people rally and news not choose to cover it. Answer: when the media are all ass kissers.

    144. wbboei,

      I posted this yesterday about the dual DNC elections certifications.

      If you have a chance could you check this link and comment on it?

      (Thanks for the heads-up, confloyd)

      canadafreepress dot com/index.php/article/14583

    145. dot48,

      Every day MSM becomes more irrelevant.

      It almost doesn’t matter any more what they do and don’t cover.

      Many in the country have finally awoken to their bias.

    146. Well, the UK Daily Mail is covering it.

      Up to two million march to US Capitol to protest against Obama’s spending in ‘tea-party’ demonstration

      By Mail Foreign Service
      Last updated at 9:39 PM on 12th September 2009

      Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as “Obamacare makes me sick” as they protested the president’s health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.

      The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the Washington Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.

      People were chanting “enough, enough” and “We the People.” Others yelled “You lie, you lie!” and “Pelosi has to go,” referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html#ixzz0Qvtl0hRr

    147. Well, the UK Daily Mail is covering it.

      Up to two million march to US Capitol to protest against Obama’s spending in ‘tea-party’ demonstration

      By Mail Foreign Service
      Last updated at 9:39 PM on 12th September 2009

      Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as “Obamacare makes me sick” as they protested the president’s health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.

      The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the Washington Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.

      People were chanting “enough, enough” and “We the People.” Others yelled “You lie, you lie!” and “Pelosi has to go,” referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.

    148. I just saw those pics too, wow, there were many there. This administration had better get to work or their days are numbered.

    149. The Pics are great. The people were all over the place. Streets were packed forever the eye could see!. Tens of Thousands my behind. I do believe the 1.2 million mark set by the DC police, and I LOVE the sign “can you hear me now”. Actually there were soo many good signs.!

    150. The crowd size is a shocking surprise. Yesterday, we thought 50,000 was too optomistic an expectation. It appears the numbers are well above that number.

    151. ADMIN PLEASE EMBED:

      Black Speaker at DC Rally Mocks Obama’s Teleprompter Dependence

      “I thought you would want to hear a black man speak to you without a teleprompter.”

      youtube.com/watch?v=bUz1PE_OFBU&feature=player_embedded

    152. admin, I am not shocked. Everyone that I know who voted for this bamboozling fraud (who are not ashamed to admit it) are shocked, ashamed, and appalled at what is going on.

      Change my ass! The only change is the little we are getting to keep in our pockets\\

      VOTE EM OUT. Look out Pelosi, maybe someone in her district will run against her.

    153. BREAKING NEWS:

      Chicago hospital: Fmr. Blagojevich fundraiser dies

      CHICAGO (AP) – Ousted Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s former chief fundraiser died Saturday at a Chicago hospital, a hospital spokesman said.
      Christopher Kelly, 51, arrived at Cook County’s Stroger hospital by ambulance at 5:15 a.m. Saturday and was pronounced dead at 10:46 a.m., said spokesman Marcel Bright.

      SNIP

      Kelly, a suburban roofing contractor, was Blagojevich’s longtime fundraiser and had been indicted on three separate federal cases, including the one that alleges Blagojevich sought to sell or trade President Obama’s former seat in the U.S. Senate

      SNIP

      On Tuesday, Kelly admitted he paid $450,000 in kickbacks to an unnamed consultant who allegedly inflated cost estimates for repairs to hangars operated by American Airlines and United Air Lines at O’Hare International Airport. He was sentenced to nearly 5 years in prison.

      Kelly admitted that bids on the projectswere rigged to make certain that his BCI Commercial Roofing Inc. would land the contracts. In all, the contracts paid Kelly $8.5 million. His profit was $2.5 million, according to the plea agreement.

      breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9AM20EO0&show_article=1&catnum=0

    154. djia Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 11:17 am
      ADMIN…PLEASE EMBED… this glenn beck clip is perfect for this article!

      Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck September 11, 2009, opened with an emotional tribute to September 11, 2001, followed by news about the NEA conference call and more about the ACORN sting in D.C.

      After Eight Years the Trade Center Sits Still the Same! WHY?

      youtube.com/watch?v=r8Z6f0CW2GE&feature=player_embedded

    155. gonzo,

      That clip upthread is great!

      I loved the king BO character with the crown and fake fur smoking jacket.

      It’s striking how much more creative those protesters are with their goofy signs and slogans. No comparison with the Bo zombies who can only shout ‘Yes we can” on cue. All in all, a wonderful day for the constitution.

    156. Another crowd estimate from someone who was there. And, btw, as dot said, there were zero network camera crews recording the protest.

      From Vodkapundit dot pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/09/12/they-will-be-heard/

      Just got off the phone with Stacy McCain, who’s trying his damnedest to get into DC for the big TEA Party march today. Stacy was calling in to tell me about his talk with Barbara Espinosa. She’s on the ground at 11th & Pennsylvania Avenue, where they’re metering the crowd. We’re not talking about taking sample counts from a helicopter than extrapolating some dumb figure.

      They’re actually counting people.

      And as of about noon Eastern, more than 450,000 people had walked by.

      And as Stacy can tell you from the traffic, there are more coming in. Many more.

      Barbara will have pictures and video in just a bit — check back here for links and/or pics and vids.

    157. OMG!

      This cracks me up! A mathematician’s estimate of the crowd size done through extrapolation!

      Charlie Martin — a computer scientist with extensive intelligence experience — emails from his secret bunker near Boulder, CO:

      I did a back-of-envelope based on the photos and reports. A pretty dense crowd is about 1.8 people per square meter, and the National Mall alone is about 125 hectares, 1.25 million square meters. So that would be 2.3 million people.

      Given the report from Steve of an actual literal count of 450K early on, I think the 2 million number is *very* plausible.

      Knowing Charlie like I do, I’m inclined to trust his guestimates more than most people’s “facts.”

    158. good pics, dijia.

      I have read that some of the pics being posted are from 1997???

      I dunno.

      Anyway, here’s a funny sign I saw: Cash for Caskets.

      It would be funnier if it wasn’t potentially true.

    159. basil

      If you look at the arial photo of the crowd on therealbarackobama site you can see there are even still a ton of people coming from up all streets!

      I would say there was easily 2mil there today

    160. Last one about crowd size. (I know – I sometimes obsess over things like this)

      From pajamas media

      Here are some of the things one of the volunteers saw today, by the numbers.

      •70 outdoor port-a-potties.

      •90 minute wait to use one.

      •The People Meter on Penn Ave had read 450,000 by noon, and 1.5 million two hours later. (That last number still looks awfully high to me.)

      •1 DC police officer, who told her, “I’ve been here 20 years and this is the largest crowd I’ve ever seen.”

    161. dijia,

      I’m no good at estimating crowd size but it was clearly a huge crowd and if the people-meter is right it seems like it’s possible there were a million or more.

      I’m thrilled but also worried by the BM blackout. With each passing day we descend more and more into a 1984 universe where war is peace and up is down.

    162. I took a trip yesterday with a friend of mine who is a Chinese American. Three things of interest:

      1. the Chinese newspaper he reads said young white people are deserting Obama. I had not heard this before.

      2. I saw no Obama bumper stickers, whereas as recently as last week I saw over 20 of them on the same trip. People are removing them.

      3. he said the Obamamites took over his causus in the primary. They were loud and intimidating. He said thanked me for encouraging him to vote for Hillary. When friends come to him now and ask what is this man doing to the country, he says don’t blame me, I voted for Hillary.

    163. I have looked everywhere for even one word about the Roosevelt Award that Hillary was presented last night.Telebama and his fellow crime lords have controlled the news about her worldwide accomplishments and recognition as a truly world leader that any would love to have as their head of state.I am getting very impatient and annoyed by the lack of interest that many of the big pink bloggers are either disinterested or frightened by the Big Black Race Card the imposter waves like a scepter as he dispurses the stench of corruption,fraud,lies
      and malfeasance over this once strong and patriotic nation.up until he came along I have always been proud and have had a great feeling about what a band of brothers had accomplished in setting the world right again after the
      high crimes of Adolf Hitler and his deaf dumb and blind followers.It hurts to see so many infatuated young people pay tribute to this stranger with
      a silver tongue reading propaganda written for him by more young starstruck that have no sense of patriotism or duty to country.He has more Bu–Sh– than a livery stable.
      As you may see I am truly angry this day becauseI watched hundreds of thousands of real patriots standing together to protest what is taking place
      within our shores by a dangerous egomaniac.

      By ABM91 At this point I do not know if I can continue to express my fears
      about BHO or the great need to have Hillary in the WH as President.Blind eyes and dead ears present quite a barrier for getting the truth out.

    164. Thomas Jefferson would be proud of those tea baggers, even though olbertraumfuerer, Mrs. Alan Greenspan, and Cambell Brown are not. Somebody needs to ask Pelosi if she wants to withdraw her previous statement that people who oppose Obamacare are nazis. Also, she needs to read the First Amendment. Those elites thought they could feast on the bones of the American People.

    165. By ABM91 At this point I do not know if I can continue to express my fears
      about BHO or the great need to have Hillary in the WH as President.Blind eyes and dead ears present quite a barrier for getting the truth out.
      ————————————-
      ABM 90: KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. IT IT WORKING. TAKE A LOOK AT THE CROWD AT BEMERRYS SITE.

    166. AOL claims that OO is close to a deal on the Health Care Reform. Of course, we know he will get something. I am just concerned about what.

    167. DOES THE DEAL INCLUDE A FIRM UNCONDITIONAL PUBLIC OPTION AND HOW MUCH WILL IT COST? IT IS NO TRICK TO GET A DEAL. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    168. OBAMA IS IN MINNESOTA. HOW CAN HE BE CLOSE TO A DEAL. HE IS MUCH CLOSER TO CANADA. WHO IS HE NEGOTIATING WITH? BULL MOOSE? OR MAYBE THE GEESE.

    169. wbboei Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

      ————————–

      Personally, I think Israel is on it’s own now. Moving towards China and Russia? Neither has a stellar reputation where the Jews are concerned. I really hope that Bibi proceeds with caution.

    170. Guest lineup for the Sunday TV news shows:
      ___

      ABC’s “This Week” — Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius; Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and Mary Landrieu, D-La.; Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.
      ___

      CBS’ “Face the Nation” — David Axelrod, White House senior adviser; Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine.
      ___

      NBC’s “Meet the Press” — Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and John Cornyn, R-Texas; Howard Dean, former national Democratic Party chairman; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.
      ___

      CNN’s “State of the Union” — White House press secretary Robert Gibbs; Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.; Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va.
      ___

      “Fox News Sunday” — Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C.; Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union.

      newsday.com/entertainment/tv/guests-for-the-sunday-tv-news-shows-1.1440523

    171. abcnews.com does have an article up about the protestors in D.C.

      ————————————————————–

      wbboei Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

      I think the plan will look like the Baucus plan and is a huge giveaway to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. I also think that the middle class will be squeezed by this plan and will have difficulty paying premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. I am also concerned about the large cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. If eligibility for Medicaid is going to be broadened, then how are the states going to pay for this, if the program is cut?

    172. wbboei Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
      OBAMA IS IN MINNESOTA. HOW CAN HE BE CLOSE TO A DEAL. HE IS MUCH CLOSER TO CANADA. WHO IS HE NEGOTIATING WITH? BULL MOOSE? OR MAYBE THE GEESE.

      ———————————————————————

      I think the deal has been made and will not include a strong public option. The agreements and deals have already been made with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, and BO will not renege on those deals. If he does, he may lose funding for his campaign and other democrats. It is a battle between the Republicans and Dimocrats, to obtain the large cash infusions from the special interests. The government is run by corporations and I don’t see this changing anytime soon. Pelosi is having a fund raiser sponsored by United Health on 9.24.09. How much more in bed with the special interests can the congress critters be? The deals have been made and all the rest is Kabuki theater. BO is not a socialist; he is anything but that.

    173. I think the deal has been made and will not include a strong public option. The agreements and deals have already been made with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, and BO will not renege on those deals. If he does, he may lose funding for his campaign and other democrats. It is a battle between the Republicans and Dimocrats, to obtain the large cash infusions from the special interests. The government is run by corporations and I don’t see this changing anytime soon. Pelosi is having a fund raiser sponsored by United Health on 9.24.09. How much more in bed with the special interests can the congress critters be? The deals have been made and all the rest is Kabuki theater. BO is not a socialist; he is anything but that.
      ——————————————————
      That is the deal. And it will not satisfy the progressives.

    174. The “deal” shouldn’t satisfy anybody, particularly Hillary supporters. She actually ran on public insurance open to all, not Obama. Mark Penn recently said the purpose of public insurance for everyone was to lead to single payer. I think it is safe to assume he understood Hillary’s health policy. Every industrialized nation has some sort of single payer except us. Hillary was a health policy expert who understood well that private insurance was a “market failure”(her words). Obama’s whole foods crowd may care as an academic matter, but Hill’s working class voters needed health care finance relief, not some boondoggle for the private insurers.

    175. “If eligibility for Medicaid is going to be broadened, then how are the states going to pay for this.”

      Unfunded Mandate. The entire plan is the No Child Left Behind of health care.

    176. He is rushing everything through as more than likely 2010 will rsult in some gains for republicans despite their incompetence. As pointed out, Obama will get some health bill and his ego will be satiated and MSM will annoint him once again for “doing what Prez Clinton could not”. What they fail to remember is that Bill did not have a filibuster proof senate, and the dems gave him as much grief as the republicans back then.

    177. mj Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
      The “deal” shouldn’t satisfy anybody, particularly Hillary supporters. She actually ran on public insurance open to all, not Obama. Mark Penn recently said the purpose of public insurance for everyone was to lead to single payer. I think it is safe to assume he understood Hillary’s health policy. Every industrialized nation has some sort of single payer except us. Hillary was a health policy expert who understood well that private insurance was a “market failure”(her words). Obama’s whole foods crowd may care as an academic matter, but Hill’s working class voters needed health care finance relief, not some boondoggle for the private insurers.

      Unfunded Mandate. The entire plan is the No Child Left Behind of health care.

      ——————————————————————————————————-

      MJ, I totally agree. This plan/deal stinks. Hillary would have fought for a strong public option, even if she couldn’t get it. Currently, the climate will not permit single payer, but it would be nice, if some people could show some political courage to put up a fight for it. Kucinich said it would take a national movement for a single payer system. When Rose Ann DeMoro, president of the California Nurses Association, met with Baucus, the entire focus was getting a win for BO, not the health of the American people. As long as the insurance and pharmaceutical companies are contributing to the re-election of the congress critters, they will prevail and wield an enormous amount of power. It is very unfortunate for the health of our country that corporations are running the country.

    178. “What they fail to remember is that Bill did not have a filibuster proof senate, and the dems gave him as much grief as the republicans back then.”

      What they won’t remember is Prez Clinton actually had a plan that helped average Americans, not a bailout for the insurers.

    179. “MJ, I totally agree. This plan/deal stinks. Hillary would have fought for a strong public option, even if she couldn’t get it. ”

      I think she would have gotten it. I don’t think she would have barred the biggest proponents of public insurance, Medicare for All, advocates, from having a seat at the table.

    180. ABM90, I also have been looking for her award anywhere on the net, its not there! Its a shame when a brilliant woman is minimized to cannonize a Chicago gangster. We are not moving forward, we are moving backward.

      I am going to try and see if someone uploaded the speech on you tube, if I find it I will try to post the link.

    181. mj Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
      “MJ, I totally agree. This plan/deal stinks. Hillary would have fought for a strong public option, even if she couldn’t get it. ”

      I think she would have gotten it. I don’t think she would have barred the biggest proponents of public insurance, Medicare for All, advocates, from having a seat at the table.

      —————————————————————————————

      That’s true; she would not have barred them from having a seat at the table. Though, I don’t know, how she would have convinced the Blue Dogs to go along with it.

    182. Ok, heres where they take the guns. From the realbarackobama blog:
      Is Cass Sunstein a threat to the individual Second Amendment right to bear arms?
      September 12, 2009 by Procrustes

      In October 2007 Sunstein suggested the individual Second Amendment right to bear arms could be challenged in the Supreme Court in the near future:

      Is Cass Sunstein an even bigger threat than Van Jones?

      While media attention was drawn to the midnight departure of “Green Jobs Czar” Jones, “Regulatory Czar” Cass Sunstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

      Karole Dolen-Proffit, who asked the above question in yesterday’s Sacramento Conservative Examiner, writes:

      In a 57-40 vote, Obama’s Regulatory Czar of choice Cass Sunstein was confirmed to the official title of Director to the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

      Sunstein is just one of Obama’s many Czars who inspires controversy and strong opposition. Following Van Jones’ resignation, attention has now been turned to Sunstein due to his radical ideas on free speech, the right to bear arms, and animal rights. He has been named “Obama’s Gun Grabbing Czar” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, and deemed the “most powerful man you never heard of” by Fox News’ Glenn Beck due to his extremely radical ideas.

      With regard to free speech, Sunstein has said, “A system of limitless individual choices with respect to communications is not necessarily in the interest of citizenship and self-government.” He also believes that the government should control the Internet through the implementation of an “Internet Fairness Doctrine.”

      Elizabeth Delaney explained the concerns over Sunstein’s position on the right to bear arms September 9 in the Christianity & Politics Examiner:

      He’s not known for being a supporter of the second amendment, which is the right to keep and bear arms, and that disturbs ranchers who want to protect their cattle, those who are interested to have a gun on hand to protect their family, and those who are hunters.
      In a June 2008 interview with Time Magazine Sunstein said: “Obama has always expressed a belief that the Second Amendment guarantees a private right to bear arms.” All well and good. But what does “Regulatory Czar” Sunstein himself have to say on the issue?

      Dolen-Proffit adds:

      In his 2005 book “Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right-Wing Courts are Wrong for America” [Sunstein] writes, “[A]lmost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine. And if the Court is right, then fundamentalism does not justify the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms.”
      Ellis Washington writes today at World Net Daily:

      For example, here is Sunstein views on the Second Amendment right to bear arms: “My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears.”
      Dave Workman pointed out the confusion about Sunstein’s Second Amendment views September 10 in the Seattle Gun Rights Examiner:

      As the Washington Times editorial recalled, [Sunstein] sent a letter to Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia in July that stated, “I strongly believe that the Second Amendment creates an individual right to possess and use guns for purposes of both hunting and self-defense,” and then adds, “If confirmed, I would respect the Second Amendment and the individual right that it recognizes.”

      Well, which is it? Does the Second Amendment “create” an individual right, or “recognize” it? (I know the answer to that question and so should you, while Sunstein evidently has conflicting thoughts.)

      To be sure, everyone should agree that the Second Amendment creates some kind of individual right. But what kind? The text is unclear: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”
      […]

      In an opinion piece Sunstein authored for the Boston Globe on June 27, 2008, he wrote, “For the first time in the nation’s history, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment creates an individual right to possess guns for nonmilitary purposes.” There he goes with that “creation” thing again, and he clearly misrepresents what the high court ruling stated.

      Later in the same piece, Sunstein observed, “To be sure, everyone should agree that the Second Amendment creates some kind of individual right. But what kind? The text is unclear: ‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed’.”

      I don’t know, Cass. That seems pretty clear to me, and a lot of other people. And you still don’t get it about the Second Amendment.

      “My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears.”
      Americans voted for Obama last fall because they thought the country needed a change. Yet in the aftermath, by rushing to gun shops and gun shows, they clearly demonstrated with their wallets that they don’t think the country needs to abandon the Second Amendment

    183. It’s called the 4 freedoms award…and if you simply Google “Hillary Clinton 4 freedoms Award”…there are several, though certainly not enough citations…:)

    184. This is what scares me, that the backroom deal is already done and like in the primaries they are saying Fu*k you to the American people. My only hope is that the Repubs, Hillary voters (real supporters that didn’t cross over), libertarians and Indies continue to coalesce and knock the door down so to speak.

      I think it may just take a revolution. Botoxnan having a fundraiser backed by United Care in the middle of this? That needs to be protested big time, huge crowds.

      Admin, the Beatles please
      youtube.com/watch?v=JFipyKSC2U8

    185. September 11th, National Day of Service – Roosevelt Institute Four Freedoms
      Awards Dinner to Honor Secretary of State Clinton and Champions of Four
      Freedoms

      NEW YORK, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire/ — On the evening of the first 9/11 National
      Day of Service, the Roosevelt Institute will honor its five 2009 Four Freedoms
      Medalists, individuals whose devotion to public service has extended the four
      freedoms that President Franklin Roosevelt declared essential in his landmark
      1941 speech.

      This year’s overall FDR Four Freedom Medal will be awarded to Secretary of
      State Hillary Rodham Clinton, for her contributions to championing the four
      freedoms at home and abroad and, especially, for improving the lives of women
      and children across the globe.

      The Medal for Freedom of Speech and Expression goes to Anthony D. Romero & the
      ACLU; For Freedom of Worship to Eboo Patel & the Interfaith Youth Core; For
      Freedom from Want to Vicki B. Escarra & Feeding America; and For Freedom from
      Fear to Pasquale J. D’Amuro, former head of counterterrorism at the FBI.

      The Roosevelt Institute celebrates five leaders who make preserving and
      extending the four freedoms in the United States their life work as public
      servants. The Institute pays special tribute to the fight against CIA torture
      techniques by D’Amuro and the FBI and to the Freedom of Information Act
      victories around the treatment of terrorist detention suspects by Romero and
      the ACLU. “These acts reflect enormous courage to preserve liberty and
      security in a free society in times of grave danger for our country.” – Andrew
      Rich, President and CEO, Roosevelt Institute.

      President Roosevelt believed that “[d]evotion to the public good, unselfish
      service, never-ending consideration of human needs are in themselves
      conquering forces.” For decades, the Roosevelt Institute has worked to ensure
      that this belief endures and it is the Roosevelt legacy that has inspired our
      country to engage in public service in remembrance of the events of September
      11th.

      The 2009 awards will be presented in the presence of the HRH Crown Prince
      Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands and HRH Princess Maxima of the
      Netherlands.

      For more information about the Roosevelt Institute, visit
      http://www.rooseveltinstitute.org.

      The FDR Four Freedoms Dinner
      Friday, September 11, 2009 – 7pm
      The Waldorf Astoria
      Final access time for press 6:30 – RSVP REQUIRED

      reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS199616+10-Sep-2009+PRN20090910

    186. The other annoying thing, is that this debacle of health insurance reform is not to take place until 2013, although, Medicare cuts will begin in 2010.

    187. Medicaid, if anything needs to be narrowed. Everyone and their brother is on it in Texas. Illegals, 10 children, no problem…drug addict, alcoholic, no problem. Got an eating disorder, want one, no problem. Your nerves shot, here have a little Medicaid, it will help. Unwed mother, no problem, the middle class will pay for it all….have another kid while your at it.

      I have my two, that’s what I could afford, but you, go ahead, have that dozen or 14 like the Quintuplet mother, million dollars a year to care for them was the estimate secondary to being preemie, child care. No problem.

    188. I think it quiet unusual that another person that was going to prison involved in Obama’s senate seat sale is dead. He must have know LOTS. He was only 51, so I wonder what the cause of death was??

      I remember when all this first came down with ENRON, that guy died just before he was to begin his sentence. He could have implicated another POTUS.

      It seems they don’t live long if they know something.

    189. Gonzotex, I have not found that true, when my own daughter was beaten everyday by her husband for eleven years finally got free of him. She could not qualify for medicaid, just the children. I had to pay for her medical bills until she was able to find work with insurance. I have to disagree with you on that. I find most whites can’t get on it, it is saved for black and brown.

    190. posted on Taylor Marsh by texan4hillary; This is how the progressives are treated at the WH.
      Progressives on Hill Fury: Uninvited to WH! Goes Public with Anger
      10 September 2009 4:17 pm by texan4hillary

      http://tinyurl.com/nefg2h
      Progressive caucus confirms its is true. as tpm reported- cpc never met with Obama, although Obama promised sucha mtg to the chairs of cpc ina conf call friday. You want to talk dissed? No other caucus in congress is treated this way. And you bet cpc is now more determined to fight. How insulting. Your caucus is invited to wh and then its reneged and not rescheduled. So cpc has come out today SAYING THEY WERE DISSED AND DEMANDING A MTG WITH OBAMA. So sick of this disrespect.

      Harkin took over on HELP as Dodd stays at banking. Harkin is a liberal but now says co ops ok. So has reid. There is a growing shcism in the party I dont know how to fix because oBmama is antagonizing the hell out of progressives on the Hill one day after a well recieved speech! Crap

    191. birdgal Says:
      September 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

      The other annoying thing, is that this debacle of health insurance reform is not to take place until 2013, although, Medicare cuts will begin in 2010.

      =================

      does anyone have handy a good cite for what those cuts are and when they will begin?

    192. “That’s true; she would not have barred them from having a seat at the table. Though, I don’t know, how she would have convinced the Blue Dogs to go along with it.”

      The voters would have forced them to. One word: trust. Voters trust Hillary on health care, and they know her, they know her husband, they know when she advocates something it is fiscally responsible.

    193. freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338250/posts

      GREAT PICTURES OF THE DC PROTEST. I LOVE THE SNAKE!

      CNN HAS IT’S LEADING STORY ABOUT RACISM AND THE OBAMAFRAUD SPEECH ON HEALTHCARE!

      THEY DON’T THINK THE WORLD IS WATCHING….

    194. confloyd Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

      I TAKE CARE OF PLENTY OF WHITE PEOPLE ON MEDICAID AND GAMING THE SYSTEM. AS SOON AS ONE PERSON FIGURES THE SYSTEM OUT THEY FREELY SHARE THEIR WEALTH OF INFORMATION ON HOW TO DO IT. IT IS NOT A RACIAL THING

      YOUR DAUGHTER IS JUST NOT HANGING WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE…

    195. Thanks for the reminder Confloyd.

      The news about Dodd leaving the Chairmanship of the HELP committee to take over the Banking Committee is a very overlooked story (including here). Dodd left a sinking ship. Dodd leaving speaks volumes about what he thinks is going to happen.

      If Dodd thought there was going to be a successful health care reform law passed he would have stayed at the helm of the HELP Committee in order to advance his sinking reelection campaign. Dodd chose instead to get money as the head of the Banking Committee – as if more money would help his reelection.

      At some point we suspect other websites will begin to accept our insight on this matter and articles will be produced to flesh out the situation.

    196. admin Says:
      September 12th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

      Thanks for the reminder Confloyd.

      The news about Dodd leaving the Chairmanship of the HELP committee to take over the Banking Committee is a very overlooked story (including here). Dodd left a sinking ship. Dodd leaving speaks volumes about what he thinks is going to happen.

      Wow, you’re right. I hadn’t thought of that at all.

    197. does anyone have handy a good cite for what those cuts are and when they will begin?

      ————————————————————————————–

      It might be in this pdf file of the Baucus plan. I’ve read so many postings lately, that I can’t remember exactly where I’ve read specific information.

      It is 18 pages long.

      voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/BaucusFramework.pdf

    198. I feel down today as I can see there are many like us who are dismayed at the current state of affairs at the WH., but I feel like those folks that were picketing have been lead off the other side of the cliff. I think sooner or later we need to find the source of the problems in America. We all believe Obama and Bush have been puppets and now with this administration the BM has been bought off so we are in a heap of trouble. I think all this fighting over healthcare, while its real, is also being used to hide and confuse the masses about another banking crisis in the making.

      Today another bank failed, everyone was watching the 9/12 project. I don’t want to take away the excitment of that, if you listen to what those folks are gripping about they are being lead off the opposite cliff. People still dont realize we need to be fighting for transparency of what is happing with the banks.

      Dodd is biggest crook there is handling the banks, is as bad as Rangel handling taxes, WHEN WILL IT END?? As they say over on Riverdaughters, we need to be watching for the pickpockets.

    199. Insurance Reform in the Non-Group Market. Beginning January 1, 2013, health insurance plans in the individual market would be required to offer coverage on a guaranteed issue basis and would be prohibited from excluding coverage for pre-existing health conditions. Limited benefit plans and lifetime limits would be prohibited, and health insurance companies would be prohibited from rescinding health coverage.
      Health insurance premiums would be allowed to vary based only on tobacco use, age, and family composition according to the following ratios:
       Tobacco use – 1.5:1
       Age – 5:1
       Family composition:
      o Single – 1:1
      o Adult with child – 1.8:1
      o Two adults – 2:1
      o Family – 3:1
      Premiums could also vary to reflect geographic differences. Taking all these factors together, premiums could not vary by more than 7.5:1.
      Individuals with current coverage in non-group market can keep what they have.

      voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/BaucusFramework.pdf

    200. Small Business Tax Credits. Tax credits would be available for tax years 2011 and 2012 for firms with fewer than 25 employees and average wages below $40,000. Qualifying employers could receive the credit for up to two years with a maximum credit of 35%.

      Part D Drug Discount Program. Beginning in 2010, in order to have their drugs covered under Medicare, manufacturers must provide a 50% discount off the negotiated price for brand-name drugs covered on plan formularies when beneficiaries enter the coverage gap. Beneficiaries are eligible provided they do not qualify for low-income subsidies, do not have employer sponsored coverage, or do not pay higher Medicare premiums under Part B or Part D.

      Health Insurance Exchange. States would establish an exchange in 2010 to provide easier, more efficient comparison of health insurance plan benefits and premium costs. Information about coverage and cost-sharing would be available in a standard format. So-called “mini-medical” plans with limited benefits and low annual caps would not be offered in the exchange.
      Ombudsman. In 2010, states would be required to establish an ombudsman office to act as a consumer advocate for those with private coverage in the individual and small group markets. Policyholders whose health insurers have rejected claims and who have exhausted internal appeals would be able to access the ombudsman office for assistance.

      Transparency. Beginning in 2010, to ensure transparency and accountability, health plans would be required to report the proportion of premium dollars that are spent on items other than medical care. Also, beginning in 2010, hospitals would be required to list standard charges for all services and Medicare DRGs.

      High Risk Pools. In 2010, the proposal would increase funding for state high risk pools, so long as the funds are not used to replace current premium assessments and are not distributed to high risk pools that have a waiting list.

    201. SHARED RESPONSIBILITY
      Individual Responsibility. Beginning in 2013, all US citizens and legal residents would be required to purchase health insurance or have health coverage from an employer, through a public program (i.e., Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP), or through some other source that meets the minimum creditable coverage standard. Exemptions from the requirement would be allowed for religious objections consistent with those allowed under Medicare and for undocumented immigrants. Individuals who choose to keep the plan they have today would be deemed to have satisfied the requirement.

      An exemption from the penalty is permitted if coverage is deemed unaffordable – defined based on a circumstance where the lowest cost premium available exceeds 10% of a person’s income. Exemptions from the penalty are also allowed based on hardship, for Native Americans and for individuals below 100% of poverty. Additionally, in 2013, individuals at or below 133% of poverty will be exempt from the penalty.

      300% of poverty, the penalty for failing to obtain coverage is $950 per year with a maximum penalty per family of $3800.
      Employers with 200 or more employees must automatically enroll employees into health insurance plans offered by the employer. Employees may opt out of employer coverage, however, if they are able to demonstrate that they have coverage from another source. Additionally, states would have the option of establishing a process for auto-enrollment of individuals and families into policies offered in the non-group and small group markets.

      Employer Responsibility. Employers would not be required to offer health insurance coverage. However, employers with more than 50 full-time employees (30 hours and above) that do not offer health coverage must pay a fee for each employee who receives the tax credit for health insurance through an exchange. The assessment is based on the amount of the tax credit received by the employee(s), but would be capped at an amount equal to $400 multiplied by the total number of employees at the firm (regardless of how many receive a credit in the exchange). Employees participating in a welfare-to-work program, children in foster care and workers with a disability are exempted from this calculation.
      As a general matter, if an employee is offered employer-provided health insurance coverage, the individual is ineligible for the tax credit for health insurance purchased through an exchange. An employee who is offered unaffordable coverage by their employer, however, can be eligible for the tax credit. Unaffordable is defined as 13% of the employee’s income. The employee would seek an affordability waiver from the exchange and would have to demonstrate family income and the premium of the lowest cost employer option offered to them. Employees would then present the waiver to the employer. The employer assessment would apply for any employee(s) receiving an affordability waiver. Within five years of implementation, the Secretary must conduct a study to determine if the definition of affordable could be lowered without significantly increasing costs or decreasing employer coverage.
      A Medicaid-eligible individual can always choose to leave the employer’s coverage and enroll in Medicaid. In this circumstance, the employer is not required to pay a fee.
      Coverage offered by an employer of any size, including fully insured and self insured plans, is not required to comply with the list of benefits required of plans in the non-group and small group markets. Employers must provide first dollar coverage for prevention services (except where value-based insurance design is used), however, and cannot have a maximum out-of-pocket limit greater than that provided by the standards established for Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).

    202. From BP
      *****************funny
      Policy Updates

      —All of you “Far Horizons” Fifteenth Tier Plan subscribers may now choose any doctor you like, who will then refer you to the list of approved cheap doctors, ex-doctors, doctors-in-training, and veterinarians.

      —“Near Horizons” Sharing & Caring Plan members: Some misunderstandings about this plan have arisen lately. Sharing your hospital bed does not reduce the per-day costs of your hospital stay, and you will be legally liable if your bedmate contracts a communicable disease.

    203. birdgal, Is there any way to see what kind of premiums it will cost?? I guess not we will all have to sit and wait. I wonder what they are in Massachusetts??

      I am thinking they will be about 500. a month. I just wonder how people will afford them. There are some right now I could get for about 300., but I never spend that much. My meds are 28. a month. Hopefully they will have one that will just cover hospital visits. I would rather pay out of pocket for dr.visits and meds. Walmart has that $4. program and I tell my doc that I will not need any meds that are not on that list.

    204. This is just crazy to make people pay this, of coarse, the premiums will be higher than they would be if we did not have to cover the illegals going to the er. I guarantee you the insurance companies will hide those costs in YOUR premium.

    205. This is what will happen, people will buy the cheapest policy under the law and then be under insured. What happens then when they have a catastraphic illness?? I’m moving to Canada!

    206. confloyd Says:

      September 12th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
      birdgal, Is there any way to see what kind of premiums it will cost?? I guess not we will all have to sit and wait. I wonder what they are in Massachusetts??

      I am thinking they will be about 500. a month. I just wonder how people will afford them. There are some right now I could get for about 300., but I never spend that much. My meds are 28. a month. Hopefully they will have one that will just cover hospital visits. I would rather pay out of pocket for dr.visits and meds. Walmart has that $4. program and I tell my doc that I will not need any meds that are not on that list.

      ———————————————————————————–

      I don’t know for sure, but it seems like the subsidies will be based on income. For example, a family of 4 making 66,000/yr would not receive any subsidy, but the premium would not be more than 13% of the income (not sure, if it is gross or modified AGI). 13% of one’s income, plus co-pays and premiums would be a lot for a middle class family. I think this is one of things that they are still trying to iron out, but who knows? If I had to spend 13 % of my income for health insurance, co-pays and deductibles, it would cut down on the amount that I would be able to save for retirement. So, for a family of four, this would cut down on how income that could be alloted for college/retirement funds.

      Obviously, we will have to pay for health care, but with the current system, the insurance companies are being subsidized, instead of the consumer.

    207. This is a comment @ Redstate from a guy that was in DC. Funny comment down near the bottom, “the tens of hundres of us in the back”
      A pun on the MM of course. He says a million
      ****************************************

      johnCV Saturday, September 12th at 7:59PM EDT (link)
      I would sum it up by saying that the all of the people I met were pleaseant, well mannered, exited, decent hardworking and righteously pissed off at what this country is being mutated into.

      I was late getting there and took the metro train in. The pedestrian causeways over the interstate were full of people waiting to buy tickets at 0930! It took about 30 minutes to get a ticket and board the train. The train was mostly full at that point. Two stops in and it was tight standing room only. Four stops in and there was no room left (I estimate about 2500 people per loaded train).

      I forgot my camera (arrgggh), but the best sign was by a grandmotherly type and it said:
      ‘If you ram it down out throats in 2009, we’ll jam it up your (insert picture of democrat donkey) in 2010.’
      Another said ‘ We are not terrorists, but in 2010 heads will roll’

      Crowd size numbers were being thrown around left and right, but I think the one million +/- number sounds very reasonable.

      The best thing I saw though, was where I standing next to the cnn bus (great view of the capitol). Lots of epithets were hurled at it from passers-by on a regular basis. One guy walked up to the front door and strated shouting at them inside ” Hey, the news is out here! Out Here! Why don’t you do your jobs and get OUT HERE to see what’s going on!” He kept it up for a several minutes, starting to draw a crowd. Some cnn muscle came out and tried to move him along, but he stayed put (non-violent – but having a big crowd at your back doesn’t hurt either…).
      Finally a young lady came out (producer type) with a tape recorder (!) and pad and talked to the guy and a few others. CNN – cutting edge journalism.
      She seemed OK, but it really was pathetic. When confronted with the lack of reportage on the whole event she said they have done several stories but added it likely was not enough. I got the feeling she was personally sympathetic to what was going on, but couldn’t really say so.

      I could not get close enough to the stage or any speakers to hear any speeches (lots and lots of people!) so me and the ‘tens of hundreds’ in the back just had a great time exchanging opinions about where we thought things were going. Everyone saw this as a beginning, and will carry away a spark to bring home to fire up others who could not make it this time.

      Thanks to all that could make it to DC (District of Corruption) and the local events – have a safe journey home.

    208. DC (District of Corruption)

      ———————————————————-

      Isn’t that the truth! Now, that is something just about everyone might believe.

    209. birdgal, This is gonna be a disaster, people don’t want to pay that much money for premiums. THe people in Washington are so out of touch. People can’t afford another $500. payment to anyone. Some can’t afford $200. I just wonder what the hell these insurance companies are going to charge. If its going to be like car insurance, if you use it at all your premiums go up to cover the damages they have to pay. When this goes down and people are mandated to pay for crappy insurance, then maybe they’ll be ready for the public option, until then we all are going to be screwed. I meant single payor, not the govt.

    210. I am also worried about the union aspect of the healthcare field. THey will make all healthcare workers join the seiu?? Well, thats why they made the union n chief President. Think of all those dues, 401k’s they can strip for the Wall street boys.

    211. Confloyd: I’m not sure anyone really knows at this point, how much the premiums will be. But, if people make above 66,000/yr, they will not receive a subsidy and will not have to pay more than 13% of their income. Still a lot of money, but some people are probably paying more now.

      I don’t how they can make all health care workers join SEIU. I wouldn’t want to belong to such a corrupt union. In Southern CA, many of the nurses do belong to SEIU. I’m in Northern CA and belong to CNA (California Nurses Union), which has been a very strong union for nurses in northern CA. Interestingly, CNA is still sending e-mails to send faxes in support of a single payor system. They haven’t come out in full support of the proposed health insurance reform. The national association has sold out, but that isn’t anything new. The president of CNA in an article written in a CNA publication in June, said that Obama did not have the political courage to fight for a single payer system, but this was after praising him for many of his “great” qualities.

    212. Re premiums in Massachusetts:

      “It will basically be a government law that says you have to buy their defective product,” says Dr. David Himmelstein, a professor at Harvard Medical School and a founder of Physicians for a National Health Plan. [
      h….w
      pnhp.org/ ]

      “[ In a similar program in Massachusetts. ] For someone my age who is making $40,000 a year you are required to lay out $5,000 for an insurance premium for coverage that covers nothing until you have spent $2,000 out of pocket,” Himmelstein said. “You are $7,000 out of pocket before you have any coverage at all. For most people that means you are already bankrupt before you have insurance. If anything, that has made them worse off. Instead of having that $5,000 to cover some of their medical expenses they have laid it out in premiums.”

      h…..w
      truthdig.com/report/item/20090823_this_isnt_reform_its_robbery/

    213. confloyd Says:
      September 12th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

      This is just crazy to make people pay this, of coarse, the premiums will be higher than they would be if we did not have to cover the illegals going to the er.

      =================

      We’re already covering the illegals and everyone else goign to the ER — in the levies and such that fund our county hospitals. Or in the fees we pay to private hospitals. Whatever funding the ERs have now, we’re paying it, somehow.

    214. “Interestingly, CNA is still sending e-mails to send faxes in support of a single payor system. They haven’t come out in full support of the proposed health insurance reform. ”

      The CNA will never endorse this boondoggle. They support single payer, which not only gives every American health care at a sane price, but would greatly improve worker conditions for nurses. Indeed, if everyone actually had health care, we would probably hire more nurses. We are wasting billions of dollars every year to line the pockets of third party payers for no value add. it’s a complete looting of the public. That money could actually be spent on health CARE.

      Obama=Hoover. This is going to be a complete waste of 4-8 years.

    215. turndownobama Says:

      September 13th, 2009 at 12:37 am
      Re premiums in Massachusetts:

      ——————————————————————————————-

      This program is not a good one to emulate, which is what the proposed health insurance reform seems to be doing. There are people who cannot afford to pay the premiums in MA. The cost of premiums plus co-pays and deductibles will bankrupt people.

      The illegals are a big problem.

    216. This is just a travesty. I will buy the cheapest thing I can find for myself. I wonder since my husband is on medicare, will he be able to keep it or are they doing away with that too??
      I wonder if I can get a policy just for myself?? I just need something in case I have a heartattack. I have to be awful sick to consent to have anything more than a blood test. I think the further you stay away for the doctors the better you are. Unfortunately I am on two kinds of blood pressure, one to keep it down and keep the fluid for building up and the other to regulate the heartrate. I am not into making the drug companies rich, you not suppose to feel like a spring chicken when your 59, so why do people try to find a pill to try and make that happen?

    217. mj Says:

      September 13th, 2009 at 12:45 am
      “Interestingly, CNA is still sending e-mails to send faxes in support of a single payor system. They haven’t come out in full support of the proposed health insurance reform. ”

      The CNA will never endorse this boondoggle. They support single payer, which not only gives every American health care at a sane price, but would greatly improve worker conditions for nurses. Indeed, if everyone actually had health care, we would probably hire more nurses. We are wasting billions of dollars every year to line the pockets of third party payers for no value add. it’s a complete looting of the public. That money could actually be spent on health CARE.

      Obama=Hoover. This is going to be a complete waste of 4-8 years.

      ———————————————————————————————————

      This is why, I still some respect for CNA, because they know that this is a poor plan and will not help people.

      Exactly, the money that we spend for premiums should be spent on actual health care, and not lining the pockets of the third party payers. By promoting this program, the congress and president have sold out to the special interests.

    218. That Massachusettes fee schedule is ridiculous, I can’t imagine paying that much, they can just let me die. Fuck them, I am not paying that ridiculous price for most of the time shitty care.

    219. confloyd Says:

      September 13th, 2009 at 12:52 am
      ——————————————————————

      Paying the fine for not having health insurance will cost less than paying a premium, co-pays, and deductibles.

    220. Birdgal, EXACTLY, that money will pay for idiots like Meanchelle old job, that just try an cheat people out of care or drop them on another hospital. We will be paying for those rich asses to make a quarter mil. each year. Forget it, they can put me in jail, I am NOT going to pay this crap.

    221. I will only pay 80. to 100. a month and thats it, if the country can’t come up with that then to heck with them, they can put me in jail because I won’t file and income tax statement either. IF enough people do it, they’ll have to fix it. You get free healthcare in prison.

    222. Well, we’ll have a few years for this boondogle to take full effect.

      I’m wondering how they are going to tax employer provided health insurance. If the government taxes the companies, then wouldn’t the companies turn around and either drop insurance coverage or pass the cost on to the employee through less coverage, higher deductibles and co-pays? Or, if they decide to tax the employee for the employer provided health insurance? Who knows, but I think my health insurance coverage is going to be changing, in one way or the other.

    223. “At some point we suspect other websites will begin to accept our insight on this matter”

      Using the time machine again (smile)? Your second sight is getting scary.

    224. Turndown’s reference is must reading:

      truthdig.com/report/item/20090823_this_isnt_reform_its_robbery/

      The current health care debate in Congress has nothing to do with death panels or public options or socialized medicine. The real debate, the only one that counts, is how much money our blood-sucking insurance, pharmaceutical and for-profit health services are going to be able to siphon off from new health care legislation. The proposed plans rattling around Congress all ensure that the profits for these corporations will increase and the misery for ordinary Americans will be compounded. The corporate state, enabled by both Democrats and Republicans, is yet again cannibalizing the Treasury. It is yet again pushing Americans, especially the poor and the working class, into levels of despair and rage that will continue to fuel the violent, proto-fascist movements leaping up around the edges of American society. And the traditional watchdogs—those in public office, the press and citizens groups—are as useless as the perfumed fops of another era who busied their days with court intrigue at Versailles. Canada never looked so good.

      snip

      The Democrats are collaborating with lobbyists for the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry and for-profit health care providers to craft the current health care reform legislation. “Corporate and industry players are inside the tent this time,” says David Merritt, project director at Newt Gingrich’s Center for Health Transformation, “so there is a vacuum on the outside.” And these lobbyists have already killed a viable public option and made sure nothing in the bills will impede their growing profits and capacity for abuse.

      “It will basically be a government law that says you have to buy their defective product,” says Dr. David Himmelstein, a professor at Harvard Medical School and a founder of Physicians for a National Health Plan. “

      snip

      The bills now in Congress will, at best, impose on the country the failed model in Massachusetts. That model will demand that Americans buy health insurance from private insurers. There will be some subsidies for the very poor but not for anyone above a modest income. Insurers will be allowed to continue to jack up premiums, including for the elderly. The bankruptcies due to medical bills and swelling premiums will mount along with rising deductibles and co-payments. Health care will be beyond the reach of many families. In Massachusetts one in six people who have mandated insurance still say they cannot afford care, and 30,000 people were evicted from the state program this month because of budget cuts. Expect the same debacle nationwide.

      The U.S. spends twice as much as other industrialized nations on health care—$7,129 per capita—although 45.7 million Americans remain without health coverage and millions more are inadequately covered. There are 14,000 Americans a day now losing their health coverage. A report in the journal Health Affairs estimates that, if the system is left unchanged, one of every five dollars spent by Americans in 2017 will go to health coverage. Private insurance bureaucracy and paperwork consume one-third, 31 percent, of every health care dollar. Streamlining payment through a single nonprofit payer would save more than $400 billion per year, enough, Physicians for a National Health Plan points out, to provide comprehensive, high-quality coverage for all Americans. But the proposed America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (H.R. 3200 in the House) will, rather than cut costs, add an estimated $239 billion over 10 years to the federal deficit. This is very good for the corporations. It is very bad for us.

      snip

      The lobbyists have, as they did with the obscene bailouts for banks and investment firms, hijacked legislation in order to fleece the citizen. The five largest private health insurers and their trade group, America’s Health Insurance Plans, spent more than $6 million on lobbying in the first quarter of 2009. Pfizer, the world’s biggest drug maker, spent more than $9 million during the last quarter of 2008 and the first three months of this year. The Washington Post reported that up to 30 members of Congress from both parties who hold key committee memberships have major investments in health care companies totaling between $11 million and $27 million. President Barack Obama’s director of health care policy, who will not discuss single-payer as an option, has served on the boards of several health care corporations.

      Obama and the congressional leadership have shut out advocates of single-payer. The press, including papers such as The New York Times, treats single-payer as a fringe movement. The television networks rarely mention it. And yet between 45 and 60 percent of doctors favor single-payer. Between 40 and 62 percent of the American people, including 80 percent of registered Democrats, want universal, single-payer not-for-profit health care for all Americans. The ability of the corporations to discredit and silence voices that represent at least half of the population is another sad testament to the power of our corporate state.

    225. What is spent in America per person is $7,129 per annum. According to a prior comment, the premiums will cost $5000., and out of pocket expenses will be $7000. before the insurance company pay one dime. Well, I hope they are wearing masks during this robbery.

      I expect the insurance companies would love this plan, I would to. If each and every person in America gave me 5000. a year and I would not have to pay a thing by 129. of expenses. Lets see that $4,871. profit per person every year. Well now that a business to get into. Then to add icing on the cake for the insurance companies the govt. will pay for those who can’t afford insurance, so that person who is paying 12,000. a year for medical coverage will also pay taxes for those poor people.

      People can’t let this pass. Lets just do nothing, I will be better off.

    226. Over at GatewayPundit this morning:

      The White House issued a clarification today admitting that Joe Wilson was right–
      Team Obama is now for the first time backing a provision that would require immigrants to provide proof of citizenship. This is a provision that democrats have previously voted down in committee at least two times.

    227. ABM,

      Thanks for keeping us updated about HRC.
      It’s much appreciated.

      Gonzo,
      Great post about the first person experience of one of the protesters.

    228. Just heard on fox and friends Blago’s fund raiser Mr. Kelley who died yesterday apparently died of an “accidental aspirin over dose”

      accidental my arss!!!

    229. djia

      I wonder what he knew and who he knew it about.

      Confloyd yes, some of this gets to you, but feel my time on this blog is the only thing that keeps me up to date, and my democracy alive.

      Good Morning All

    230. FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES:

      WASHINGTON — A sea of protesters filled the west lawn of the Capitol and spilled onto the National Mall on Saturday in the largest rally against President Obama since he took office, a culmination of a summer-long season of protests that began with opposition to a health care overhaul and grew into a broader dissatisfaction with government.

      SNIP

      many demonstrators expressed their views without a hint of rage. They said the size of the crowd illustrated that their views were shared by a broader audience.

      SNIP

      As Mr. Obama traveled to Minnesota on Saturday to rally support for his health care plan, he flew over the assembling crowd in Marine One. The helicopter could be seen flying overhead as the demonstrators marched down Pennsylvania Avenue.

      SNIP

      In conversations with demonstrators, people identified themselves as Republicans, libertarians, independents and former Democrats. Several speakers denounced the Obama administration’s health care plan as “socialism.” A few Confederate flags waved in the air, but there were hundreds of American flags and chants of, “U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!” A young girl held a sign saying, “Don’t redistribute the wealth of my Barbies.”

      nytimes.com/2009/09/13/us/politics/13protestweb.html

    231. Just as I feel the people on that Airplane that went down in a PA field are heros, I have to wonder if there are any Political heros who will bring forward the information that many of us think is there. Writing it in your biography just is not good enough. We need some Political Heros, even at the risk of their careers, and we need them NOW.

    232. I took some full strength aspirn one time 2, and started bleeding in a very exciting place. But by the time I discovered it I had taken 2 more. I stopped the aspirn and the bleeding stopped. So some people cannot take it.

    233. Just was watching a little FOX and their debate on the Health Reform. The did the numbers about what experts say would be the deficit with the first 10 years and after. They asked the Dim rep how can you get from those deficits to it will not cost us one dime.

      He replied, that is because it is not based on the right plan, indicating that was the House of Rep plan, which they all say is dead. He said it is the Senate plan that will result in no deficit.

      So where is the budget expert analysis on what that plan would cost. Believe me I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO SAY.

      Smoke and mirrors, indicate there is some sort of plan out there, none of us know anything about in detail, and no expert budget analysis is available on.

      SO DO THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID OR WHAT.

    234. # djia Says:
      September 13th, 2009 at 9:14 am

      Just heard on fox and friends Blago’s fund raiser Mr. Kelley who died yesterday apparently died of an “accidental aspirin over dose”

      accidental my arss!!!

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      After being told by a friend of Mr Kelley’s sudden death; my first response was, how convenient and “needle in the neck” (?) I agree, NMF, an asprin overdose would cause unmitigated bleeding because it thins the blood and dilutes the blood’s clotting ability.

    235. I saw a headline on yahoo that the Blago advisor who died was headed to prison shortly.

      You gotta wonder about that.

      &&&
      I’m being lazy here, instead of hunting around, I just wanted to ask, what was Obama saying in his speech when Wilson interrupted with “You lie!”?

    236. Just as I feel the people on that Airplane that went down in a PA field are heros, I have to wonder if there are any Political heros who will bring forward the information that many of us think is there. Writing it in your biography just is not good enough. We need some Political Heros, even at the risk of their careers, and we need them NOW.

      ——–
      agreed!!!

      Joe Wilson come s to mind so does Palin…otherwise not much out there!!!

    237. I am confident that Fitzgerald has got the information he needs from Blago’s advisor. I am sure he was a cooperating witness, and there are other ways to get this into evidence. If there was foul play here, the bad guys got to him too late. They are going down. If they think this will stop Blago, they are crazy. I would make sure, however, that Blagos wife has protection. In these situations, the safest thing to do is to tell the authorities what you know in exchange for immunity. If there is a way to trade up from Blago to Obama that will happen. It depends on what Blago has. Whether Emanuel is a bigger fish than Blago however is a tactical question.

    238. Pelosi to punish Wilson if he doesn’t apologize to full House

      Fox News Channel | 9/13/09 | Wallace

      Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:29:40 AM

      Chris Wallace just on Fox. Reported that Pelosi will make Joe Wilson come to the front of the House (the “well”), hang his head in shame, and apologize to the full House about what a bad boy he was for calling-out Obama on his healthcare lies. Wilson reiterated that he will not do so. Pelosi then expected to call Wilson to the well for a public humiliation and perhaps punishment.

      Story just keeps getting better and better.

      In related news, Wilson has recieved over $ 1M in new donations; Lib hackers have shut-down his site.

      In SC, his popularity is soaring.

    239. Can someone tell me what is the difference between Wilson calling the fake potus a liar and Pelosi calling the American people Nazis?

      Granted she isn’t potus, but I think what she did was worse. Has she apologized in the house yet? Has she been disciplined?

    240. Sunday at noon and still one single mention on the MSM talk shoes and news papers about Hillary receiving the most coveted award possible for any world figure ‘ The Four Freedoms Medal”.The messiah is doing his evil best to destroy Hillary as he suffers the results of his failed attempt to take control of our country and the race card is no longer the scepter of a black mad man.

      By ABM91..Fellow bloggers keep up the pressure on him and keep Hillary as the rightful President of our country.
      If we fail We all had better learn how to grow BANANAS

    241. Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:29:40 AM

      Chris Wallace just on Fox. Reported that Pelosi will make Joe Wilson come to the front of the House (the “well”), hang his head in shame, and apologize to the full House about what a bad boy he was for calling-out Obama on his healthcare lies. Wilson reiterated that he will not do so. Pelosi then expected to call Wilson to the well for a public humiliation and perhaps punishment.

      Story just keeps getting better and better.

      In related news, Wilson has recieved over $ 1M in new donations; Lib hackers have shut-down his site.

      In SC, his popularity is soaring.
      ———————————-
      Wilson is a surrogate for the American People. I hope to god he does not blow it now and to grovel. Take the censure, and let that be the political issue against Pelosi in 2010. If the Republicans play it the right way, this can be manna from heaven. Never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake.

    242. the dims are going to make Wilson a hero of the common folk if they keep this up. Singling him out this way is such a joke. But I hope they keep it up. It will turn on them big time.

    243. Wilson is a surrogate for the American People. I hope to god he does not blow it now and to grovel. Take the censure, and let that be the political issue against Pelosi in 2010. If the Republicans play it the right way, this can be manna from heaven. Never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake.
      _________________________
      Wilson’s outburst could even have some appeal to the progressives as more and more of them come to the realization of how badly they have been betrayed by the big business shill in the white house. They may not agree with Wilsons politics or share the same concerns over illegals, but they would concur that Obama is a serial liar and betrayor of the American People and a shill for big business. That is enough common ground for a single issue alliance.

    244. ASPIRIN OVERDOSE???? OMG, did he not die pretty quickly?? I think they found him dead. He probably tried to off himself and they are calling it accidently.

      Where is Gonzotex?? I would like to get her/him feedback on this accidently aspirin overdose. I don’t think its a quick death, it takes at a couple of hours.

    245. The Republican Party is a study in weakness, vacillation, and indifference. They are little more than a trembling tower of tapioca. Look at that that so called leader John McCain. He is more worried about decorum in Congress than the merits of the issue Wilson raise. Obama IS a serial liar. Yet McCain ignores that issue. Lest we forget he and blivet Lindsay Graham were the architects of the failed amnesty bill and will support the next one put forward as well, without regard to the interests of the American People. Like an old battleship, McCain should be put in mothballs. There is no fight left in him. If this man is the best the Republicans have at the moment, they should turn in their charter.

    246. “Wilson is a surrogate for the American People. Never interrupt an enemy in the middle of a mistake.”

      Well said, wbb-

      ~~~~~~~~~~~

      September 13, 2009

      Obama’s Dissolving Credibility

      By Robert Tracinski

      We had our warning during the campaign, we really did.

      Remember Barack Obama’s famous speech on race, back in March of 2008? Obama had spent 20 years listening to the sermons of Jeremiah Wright, full of venomous anti-Americanism and attacks on “white America.” Yet when the reverend’s rants were revealed to the public, Obama tried to convince us that he just happened to be missing from the pews on any well-documented Sunday, and that the Jeremiah Wright we saw and heard was not the Jeremiah Wright he knew.

      It was a giant, implausible lie. Yet the speech was smoothly delivered and well-turned, perfectly balanced to seem to empathize both with the grievances of blacks and with the concerns of whites. So most people seemed to believe it.

      This is what Obama’s supposed gift for rhetoric amounts to: the ability to tell a smoothly polished bald-faced lie.

      And that was the whole essence of Obama’s big health-care speech. It was a pack of lies from beginning to end, and if we’re going to finally see through this flim-flam artist once and for all-as more and more people are beginning to do-then we had better identify them one at a time.

      I’ll skip the lies by omission-his only mention of town hall meetings, for example, was of people who “shared their stories with us” because they are “counting on us to succeed” in passing a health-care bill. Yeah, that’s what happened at town hall meetings last month!

      And I’ll skip the non-health-care lies, like Obama’s claim that he merely inherited giant deficits-when his first big legislative campaign was for three quarters of a trillion dollars in new deficit spending. Or his claim that the economic crisis was brought back from the brink “thanks to the bold and decisive action we have taken since January.” (Does anybody remember that day in February when the Dow dropped 300 points because Obama’s Treasury Secretary gave a speech in which he failed to outline any details of his latest plan? Bold and decisive indeed.) Or Obama’s claim that Ted Kennedy was not an advocate of big government.

      For now, let’s just stick to the speech’s seven big lies.

      Click the link for the 7 Big Lies:

      h.. w… realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/09/13/obamas_dissolving_credibility_98294.html

    247. wbboei, gee, are you mad at the rethugs this morning??

      Stephany Tubbs died of a hemmoraghic stoke which could have been caused by an overdose of aspirin or warfarin (blood thinners). This must be the way the Chicago Mobs like to kill people. The man was 51 years old, an accidently overdose of aspirin doesn’t happen. I have worked in the emergency room for 21 years and people take too many aspirins to kill themselves many times, but it takes a few days for them to die, unless they bleed out as Ms. Tubbs did.

    248. We’re already covering the illegals and everyone else goign to the ER — in the levies and such that fund our county hospitals. Or in the fees we pay to private hospitals. Whatever funding the ERs have now, we’re paying it, somehow.
      ———————-
      Yes, but there is another way to look at it as well. If you allow them to be treated in emergency rooms, there is no guarantee of health care. Only a past practice. But the minute you mandate taxpayer paid health care for illegal, then you will get what you pay for. Guaranteed health care becomes guaranteed illegal immigration by people who come here not even to work but for free health care. I do not blame them for coming. I blame phonies like Obama and Soros. Shock doctrine.

    249. wbboei, gee, are you mad at the rethugs this morning??
      ——————————————
      I am mad at the Quislings, the Vichi French, and others who lack the courage of their conviction, and become tools of the enemy. And that is what I am seeing now. McCain is both.

    250. found on DRUDGE…
      Richard A. Chapman/Sun-Times)

      Christopher Kelly, 51, of Burr Ridge, was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital at 10:46 a.m. An autopsy is scheduled for today, a Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office spokeswoman said.

      Kelly was Blagojevich’s “go-to guy” who once was the mastermind of the ex-governor’s lucrative campaign fund.

      Kelly’s death comes just four days after he pleaded guilty to a scheme involving $8.5 million in fraud at O’Hare Airport. It was the second conviction this year — he still faced trial along with the ex-governor, in June. Kelly had been indicted three times since 2007 but refused to become a cooperating witness. When he pleaded guilty to the O’Hare scheme Tuesday, Kelly spoke of feeling intense pressure by prosecutors to abandon his loyalty to Blagojevich and cooperate with the feds.

      Chicago police are investigating Kelly’s death. A source familiar with the investigation told the Chicago Sun-Times that Kelly, who is married, called a woman identified as his “girlfriend” and told her that he took some pills and was going to kill himself.

      The woman picked up Kelly near 170th and Cicero in Country Club Hills, where Kelly reportedly vomited. Police were taking samples of the vomit and searching for evidence, the source said.

      The girlfriend then drove Kelly to Oak Forest Hospital, dropped him off and called police to report she did so, the source said.

      Oak Forest Hospital does not have a trauma unit and was unable to treat Kelly, who then was rushed to Stroger Hospital in an ambulance.

    251. The way we are paying for illegals and the uninsured is by higher premiums. Thats why they are going to still be very high. When I first got insurance when I went to work for a hospital we paid 50. per pay period for top of the line insurance. Now its somewhere between 100 to 125 per pay period. That is what I pay the company pays the rest which is usually around 300. to 400 per month.

    252. Voices of reason

      Town hall meetings offered valid input

      September 12, 2009

      We have just witnessed across the country a revitalization of town hall democracy. The catalyst is health care reform, which has turned into a war. Perhaps caught by surprise, some Washington politicians and TV pundits have characterized these meetings as “food fights,” “evil-mongering” and “unAmerican activities.” Wow! Where is the evidence of this outrageous contempt for our government?

      I attended one of these meetings in the small town of Canisteo and though not present followed another in Wheeling, W. Va., where I used to live. The people came in force with a sense of urgency – vivid arguments and passionate dissent. But for those who wanted the excitement of mob action there was no “disruption,” no threatened violence. These events were enlivened by the mutual concern and respect among those who attended.

      In 2003, Hillary Clinton said, “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with the administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

      That is what we had in Canisteo and Wheeling.
      Some in the media would have us believe that the participants are a bunch of yahoos, uneducated and uninformed. That is also a false narrative. They have demonstrated their knowledge of the underlying facts of the health care problem and their ability to analyze legislation. The discussions have been aimed at the inefficiencies and inadequacies of the current system and recognize the complexities of reform. There are few voices contending for the status quo. These folks are not naïve. By their own battles with health insurers and agencies such as the Veterans Administration, they are aware of how egregious the abuses are. They make specific suggestions – such as allowing health insurance providers to cross state lines, medical liability reform, restricting the current huge expenditures by pharmaceuticals for advertising drugs. There also is a clear consensus against massive transformation through a single bill too big for anyone to understand.

      We are where we are now because this crucial legislation has been mishandled from the beginning. If the Obama administration and congressional leaders would start over with a renewed effort for bipartisanship, confidence could be restored.

      It is still not too late for positive outcomes. Some worry about the negative fallout for President Obama if there is too much compromise, but they have no cause for alarm. Forget about the fringe paranoia. The hyperbole is minor compared with what was heaped on President Bush. Whatever comes out in the end will have the Obama stamp.

      Blaming the president’s enemies and continuing to denigrate honest citizens is not a winning strategy.

      Dr. John Hunter of Hornell has been president of four colleges, including Alfred State College from 1986-1994.

      stargazette.com/article/20090912/VIEWPOINTS02/909120305/1121/Voices+of+reason

    253. ok, so he must have bled out thru his stomach. He said he was going to kill himself, thats not accidental. Prosecuters were pressing him and I can imagine he was getting pressure from the other side as well. It was probably an easier death than the one promised to him by both sides in prison.

      They need the autopsy done somewhere other than Cook County.

    254. I have been searching for a report of Hillary news for September 11th. All I was finding was bambi did this and bambi did that…until…

      Service And Remembrance Get Their Day

      By Paul Clolery
      September 11, 2009

      Events around the nation marked the first annual National Day of Service and Remembrance on September 11, an element of the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, passed with strong bipartisan support and signed into law by President Obama this past April.

      U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton keynoted the New York City event, attended by hundreds of September 11 family members, volunteers and nonprofit executives at the famed Beacon Theatre. Clinton described the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 as “humanity at its worst and humanity at its best.”

      Clinton praised firefighters, police officers, emergency medical personnel and first responders who ran “fearlessly into danger.” Said Clinton: “Their example must continue to inspire us all.”

      New York Gov. David Paterson spoke during the event, describing how simple sounds even eight years later, such as a police siren or even a loud noise, can bring memories of that day flooding back. He called the emotion “echos that haunt us all.” He implored those in attendance to “move past chagrin” because “love is stronger than death” when it comes to memories of those killed that day.

      Also speaking at the event were U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Doris Matsui (D-Calif.), head of the House of Representatives Service Caucus. Family members of the 9/11 victims also spoke to the audience.

      Actor Gary Sinise appeared at the event, with live performances by singer/songwriter Gavin DeGraw, the Harlem Boys and Girls Club Alumni Choir, Grammy Award winners The Roots, John Ondrasik of Five for Fighting and 2009 MTV Video Music Award nominee Anjulie. Caroline Kennedy, niece of the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, spoke to the audience about her uncle and the example he set by transitioning “to a life of purpose and meaning.”

      There were several calls for passage of the healthcare bill for rescue workers whose health was damaged while working at the World Trade Center site, also known as Ground Zero or The Pile.

      MyGoodDeed and ServiceNation, a coalition of more than 200 national and volunteer service organizations, co-hosted the event. The Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and the September 11 Memorial & Museum also supported the event. Target and GlaxoSmithKline were presenting contributors. The Jim Fassel Foundation, as well as AARP, Ambac Financial, and Keefe, Bruyette & Woods were also funders. The levels of financial support were not disclosed.

      “The anniversary of 9/11 is always a very personal day of sadness and reflection for me and my family, but it can also be a day when the nation comes together to embrace once more the spirit of compassion that helped our family and the entire 9/11 community see us through the very dark days following the attacks,” said Jay Winuk, who co-founded MyGoodDeed with David Paine, and whose firefighter brother Glenn Winuk was killed in the attacks. “Rightly so the anniversary of September 11 will finally become a national day of service and remembrance and such a designation not only pays appropriate tribute to those who were lost and those who rose in service, but also provides a constructive and meaningful way forward for our nation,” said Winuk.

      The event comes at a time when public service is being highlighted, but depending on which poll you read, might be declining in the face of a poor U.S. economy. According to the U.S. Department of Labor, 26.4 percent of Americans 16 and older volunteered in the year ending September 2008. That’s a decline from 27.6 percent in the year after the September 11 attacks and 28.8 percent two years after the attack, according to the U.S. Department of Labor. The economy is a factor in volunteering. Some 72 percent of Americans said they have cut back on the time volunteering, participating in groups and doing other civic activities when compared to last year, according to a recent survey.

      “You can look at that as withdrawing from civic engagement or you can look at it as refocusing their civic engagement, and I look at it as refocusing based on priorities,” said Michael Weiser, board chair of National Conference on Citizenship (NCoC) in Washington, D.C., which released the America’s Civic Health Index.

      According to the survey index, half of the respondents said they gave food or money to someone who was not a relative who needed it, while 43 percent said they gave food or money to relatives, 17 percent allowed a relative to live in their home or property and another 11 percent allowed a non-relative to move in. The survey also found that the economic collapse is changing public perception of institutions. Small businesses were ranked highest (31 percent) when respondents were asked what institutions they have a “great deal of confidence” in, followed by the scientific community (25 percent) and organized religion (22 percent).

      The institutions with the lowest confidence rankings were major companies (5 percent), the government’s Executive branch and Congress (both 6 percent) and banks and financial institutions (9 percent). “What we found is that we (Americans) were hurting so bad earlier this year that people had to shift from focusing outward to focusing inward,” said David Smith, executive director of NCoC. “They had to shift from being engaged in their communities to really looking out for themselves and their families.”

      NCoC surveyed more than 3,800 people this past May about their perceptions of the recession’s effect on civic engagement. The surveyed people were called and asked to participate in an online survey. To ensure balance of the sample, some of the respondents were provided compensation so they could purchase online access. Of those respondents making more than $50,000, 50 percent said they volunteered, compared to 29 percent of respondents making less than $50,000. Those making less than $50,000 were more likely to provide shelter (24 percent) than those respondents making more than $50,000 (21 percent) and also help in other ways than volunteering (39 percent versus 27 percent).
      Millennials, ages 15 to 29, had the highest percentage of volunteering (13 percent), compared to Generation X, ages 30 to 44 (10 percent), Baby Boomers, ages 45 to 64 (4 percent) and those 65 or over (5 percent).

      According to a recent study commissioned by The Volunteer Family and conducted by Harris Interactive, some 73 percent of 12- to 17-year-olds in the U.S., or 18.8 million youth, have engaged in a volunteer activity. These numbers are impressive when compared to a 1996 study conducted by the Independent Sector, which showed that 59 percent of 12- to 17-year-olds had volunteered in the previous year. This information also follows the recent CNCS study, which showed that the increase in young adult volunteers aged 16-24, makes up almost half of the overall increase in the number of volunteers nationally between 2007 and 2008. “As adults, when we see young people listening to iPods, texting friends, or watching TV, they may seem relatively self-absorbed,” says Heather Jack, founder and president of The Volunteer Family, whose Web site provides information to families and youth interested in finding a volunteer activity. “However, the reality is that young people are finding ways to give back in more ways than we could have imagined. They truly have the potential to become our country’s most philanthropic generation.” The study found that the types of activities popular among all youth ages 8-18 include helping children in need (29 percent), advocating for the environment (27 percent), assisting the elderly, sick or disabled (21 percent), helping animals in need (18 percent), and supporting the homeless (14 percent).

      “Today’s youth are choosing the causes they identify with and supporting them,” said Jack. “They are joining causes on Facebook. They are planning their own fundraising events. They are encouraging their friends and families to help out. They are embracing the traditional ideals of giving back, but they are finding new and unique ways of doing so.” Service projects in all 50 states marked the first officially recognized National Day of Service and Remembrance. Service projects marking the eight-year anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks ranged from food drives and home repairs to neighborhood cleanups and disaster preparation activities. In many areas, volunteers honored veterans, soldiers, or first responders by collecting donations, assembling care packages, and writing thank-you letters.

      “Eight years ago, the tragic events of that Tuesday morning inspired Americans to come together in a remarkable spirit of unity and compassion,” said President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama in a message urging Americans to serve on 9/11. “In that same spirit, we call on all Americans to join in service on September 11 and honor the heroes of that dark day as well as the brave men and women in uniform who continue to protect our country at home and abroad.”

      September 11 marks the end of the summer phase of President Obama’s United We Serve initiative and its transition to a long-term, sustained effort. Since the launch of United We Serve this past June, Americans have responded by replenishing food banks, preventing summer reading loss, supporting veterans and military families, and meeting other needs. ServiceNation launched its celebrity Ambassador Program engaging well-known personalities in service projects and advocacy as a means of raising awareness of the new day of service and inspiring the public to action. ServiceNation, a national campaign of Be the Change, Inc., recruited actor Tobey Maguire to head an Ambassadors Council.

      Continued at…

      nptimes.com/09Sep/bnews-090912-1.html

    255. You cannot negotiate with cannibals.

      Wilson Defends Outburst, Says He Will Not Apologize on House Floor
      Rep. Joe Wilson says he will not apologize again for his outburst during President Obama’s health care address.

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      Rep. Joe Wilson said Sunday that he will not apologize on the House floor for his outburst during President Obama’s health care address, even though Democratic leaders have threatened to formally discipline him if he does not.

      Wilson noted that he already apologized directly to the White House after shouting, “You lie,” to the president during his Wednesday address to a joint session of Congress. The outburst triggered a political firestorm, but Wilson told “FOX News Sunday” that Democrats are just “playing politics” by trying to drag out the issue and force another apology.

      “I’ve apologized one time. The apology was accepted by the president, the vice president. … I am not apologizing again,” he told “FOX News Sunday.” “I believe that is sufficient.”

      Wilson said he would “never do something like that again,” but continued to defend himself.

      The South Carolina Republican on Wednesday accused the president of lying for claiming his health care reform plan would not cover illegal immigrants.

      “I believe in the truth. What I heard was not true,” Wilson explained Sunday. “I believe (Obama) was misstating the facts.”

      Wilson said he felt “provoked” and attributed the outburst to a “town hall moment,” referring to the town hall meetings where constituents frequently shouted out their frustrations over health care reform.

      While Democrats’ health care plans do not provide for coverage of illegal immigrants, they also do not include verification mechanisms for determining legal status — Republicans have long said this leaves open the door for illegal immigrants to obtain coverage on taxpayer dollars.

      But Wilson said he was proven right, since the Senate Finance Committee and the White House are now considering such verification mechanisms and other stricter measures.

      Aside from his apology to the White House, Wilson also issued a written statement apologizing for his outburst on Wednesday.

      But while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated immediately afterward that Wilson had done enough, Democratic leadership has since decided to seek a public apology from Wilson to his colleagues on the House floor.

      If he does not, a resolution to punish him could come as early as Tuesday.

    256. confloyd Says:
      September 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

      The way we are paying for illegals and the uninsured is by higher premiums.

      ====================

      You’ve certainly got more info than I have. But I’m curious, how do our premiums get there from our insurance co? Are the ER’s passing their costs to the insurance co’s in the form of higher charges for insured patients?

      Anyway, it does seem that ‘we’ are already paying for the illegals’ care through the ER’s, so paying for their care through some more efficient way would be a savings, seems to me?

    257. THe last employee based insurance I had cost me $91. per period (biweekly). the company paid approx. $300. a month for it. The total price was $525. per month. It had a $250. deductible, $20. co-pay, and included meds which were $30.,15., 10. So according to the above posted price for a family making $66,000 per year, the price is suppose to be $5000. in premiums and you have $7,000. out of pocket expense before the insurance company pays one dime is total highway robbery.

      If this is the deal that Obama has gotten for us and he mandates, everyone will revolt. No one will pay that!

    258. Interesting about how long it usually takes to die from aspirin OD, confloyd..
      Do you have any more insight?

      Do you believe it’s possible for him to have died so quickly after ingestions?

      And how many aspirin would it take to kill someone?

    259. turndownobama, Hillary said that during her campaign. That’s how they are recouping the money. She said $2500. is built in automatically to cover the uninsured. How they move the pot of money around is beyond what she said.

    260. Big Media has done their level best to write Hillary out of the book of life. It is tragic, and yet another reason to destroy big media root and branch. They will bury the American People. If you doubt that proposition read modos latest contribution, accusing Wilson of being a racist. Modo is a nazi, plain and simple. Repeat the lie often enough and it becomes an accepted fact. That is the game. The counter to it is this: if everyone is a racist, then no one is a racist. I think every time we hear the charge we have to fire back the counter charge. There is no room for rational argument in that debate. It is like Greshams Law: the bad money chases out the good. And rather than being a moderating civilizing force for constructive debate low lifes like Maureen Down through gasoline on the fire.

    261. I saw Wilson on one of the Sunday shows and he is NOT backing down (as of now).

      Hope he sticlks to his guns.

      rgb- BO was talking about illegals not being granted health care when Wilson shouted ‘You lie.’

    262. basil9, I am not a nurse, but so I hate to state how long it would take, but it doesn’t take too long if you are bleeding out thru your stomach. I don’t know how many it would take, I can imagine it would vary according to weight an physical conditions.

    263. wbboei siad:
      Guaranteed health care becomes guaranteed illegal immigration by people who come here not even to work but for free health care.

      =====================

      Respectfully disagreeing, counselor. I think the difference is bigger in principle than in practice.

      I don’t see the difference between “ERs currently treat everyone free” and “The current health bill of 2009 treats illegals free” as being that big a determining factor in very many families’ decision to sneak in. Either policy could be changed de jure at any time by Congress, and/or de facto at the local or state level by officials asking for ID and proof of citizenship when people come for treatment. (The ACLU might sue the officials, big deal.)

    264. wbboei,
      My brother accused me of racism a couple of weeks ago and I was stunned.
      He knows my history – I was married at one time to a non-white person. I spent decades working with AA’s, hispanics and non-whites in public schools.

      For him to have said that shows just how deeply the koolaid has penetrated.
      We spoke about it later and he apologized and I told him that it seems to me he’s suffering from ‘white guilt’ and that perhaps I have none because I have lived and worked with people of all ethnicities while he has spent his life in a predominatly white town. I wonder if the fact that he has 2 adopted kids from Korea
      and one is now in HS has anything to do with it but I didn’t bring that up.

    265. Well, I am not the only one that think it is suspicious that Kelly tried to off himself with aspirin. There are soooo many easier ways, especially if your rich. I wonder why he would call his girlfriend, that sure is a bitch slap to his wife. I want to die with my mistress instead of my wife, gee he must of not cared what his children thought about him after death.

      Lamecherry has some good insight on the accidental overdose of aspirin. Its a good read.

    266. basil9 Says:
      September 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

      I saw Wilson on one of the Sunday shows and he is NOT backing down (as of now).

      Hope he sticlks to his guns.

      rgb- BO was talking about illegals not being granted health care when Wilson shouted ‘You lie.’

      =====================

      There was a post here with a long quote from Newsmax with details on what is and is not in the bill about illegals. Not that I trust Newsmax.

    267. turndownobama, I just remembered a case we had at this big trauma center I used to work at. This was an illegal who got all liquered up on Saturday night and got into a fight and got shot. We saved him but he was on a ventlilator for a long time. He ran up a million dollar bill, the hospital had to swallow that bill, they could not dump him on another hospital as that is illegal, so they just had to eat the bill. So I can imagine the hospital raises their prices to cover these writeoff’s and therefore the insurance is charged more for the normal care of an individual. So when the insurance company passes this cost to us its in the form of higher premiums.

      Multiply that bill several million times a day and you have a crisis that we are going to pay for, one way or the other. I say kick them out and close the border. These illegals (some) get in trouble alot. I had one come in in that very same hospital with seizures, headaches and dizziness, he had worms in his brain. We had to fix that too, no insurance.

    268. Congressman Murphy spoke at a town meeting I covered and one of the stats he mentioned was that
      Albany Medical Center gets hit with 40 mill a yeart in unpaid ER visits that the hospital has to eat.

    269. I hate to say all illegals are that way, because some I’ve met are hardworking people who pay cash for the doctors visits, especially the ones that work here in East Texas on the ranches we have here. Many times the rancher comes in and pays cash for the illegal to get care. Some are good, some are bad and I think alot depends on where they are living.

    270. Admin: thanks for the article from Camile Paglia. It shows her at her best attacking social orthodoxies prevalent among people who let money and an ivy league education go to their heads. There is no one better at puncturing their balloons. More to say on that in the second, but here is the particular paragraph from that article that rang especially true:
      ———————————
      affluent middle-class Democrats now seem to be complacently servile toward authority and automatically believe everything party leaders tell them. Why? Is it because the new professional class is a glossy product of generically institutionalized learning? Independent thought and logical analysis of argument are no longer taught. Elite education in the U.S. has become a frenetic assembly line of competitive college application to schools where ideological brainwashing is so pandemic that it’s invisible. The top schools, from the Ivy League on down, promote “critical thinking,” which sounds good but is in fact just a style of rote regurgitation of hackneyed approved terms (”racism, sexism, homophobia”) when confronted with any social issue. The Democratic brain has been marinating so long in those clichés that it’s positively pickled.
      ———————————————
      I think there is a tendency to look back on the late 60s as a radical period not only here but around the world. Much of it was directed out of Moscow, but that is not pertinent to what I am about to say. There is that tendency especially now among many boomers to look back on those times as the wonderful days of their youth, when they stood up as individuals and made a difference.

      Horse shit. They were led along by the nose. Most of them had no real idea of what was going on. But they wanted to be where the action was as long as it was not Viet Nam. A new generation of big media reporters who rejected the uber patriotic norm in favor of something else, contributed to the illusion that this generation was somehow special, or in the words of one writer, the most courageous, most moralistic generation in history, who lived to question authority.

      Again, horse shit. Years ago, I saw a short piece on a lady who wrote popular and historically credited account of the history of California–the miners came in 49 the whores in 51, etc. One day she was reading a diary of an early settler who came to California in a Conastoga Wagon, one of those giants in the earth. According to that original account, a rattle snake jumped into the wagon, everyone saw it, and no one had the courage to act, which is to say reach for a gun. The snake jumped from the wagon, and everyone was relieved.

      So my sense is this: nothwithstanding what Paglia says about the 1960s not much has changed. I have forgotten things that happened and remember things that never occurred.

    271. CONFLOYD!

      cHECK THIS!

      From the Chicago Tribune, September 13, 2009.

      “Kelly dies of possible overdose
      Authorities say death may be suicide but are investigating it as homicide”

    272. wbboei, that was a beautifully written comment about the 60’s and people not being aware of the ring in their noses. I think I was trying to say just that last night when everyone is happy about the picketting. As I said it was good, but I have the overwhelming idea that those folks and many others are still being lead around by their noses. If they keep the masses upset all the time, they can overtake our banking industry, change foreign policy and etc, and folks won’t notice. Very depressing! They just kept the rethugs and dimo’s fighting then they don’t have to answer to what they are doing behind the scenes.

    273. Here’s more.

      The Cook County medical examiner’s office said Stroger Hospital officials told them that Kelly apparently died of an overintoxication of salicylate, a drug used in anti-inflammatory and pain relief medications such as aspirin.

      Authorities said Kelly was in his 2007 Cadillac Escalade in the parking lot of a lumber yard at 173rd Street and Cicero Avenue in Country Club Hills — a few miles from his Markham office — Friday night when he began vomiting. Sources said a girlfriend of Kelly’s drove him to nearby Oak Forest Hospital of Cook County. The Escalade remained there Saturday afternoon, guarded by police.

      A hospital spokesman said Kelly arrived at 11:15 p.m. and was treated and stabilized. But doctors determined he needed more care and transferred him to Stroger Hospital in Chicago, about 25 miles away.

      Kelly arrived at Stroger by private ambulance at 5:15 a.m., hospital spokesman Marcel Bright said. Kelly was treated for several hours but pronounced dead at 10:46 a.m., Bright said.

      The rest is at the chicago trib.

    274. Basil 9, Lamecherry says that Donald Young died of lead poisoning. (hehehe) He also no one dies of aspirin overdose in this day. Those mobsters have new and inventive ways of killing people nowadays. Hope Blago watches his back!

    275. So according to that timeline approximately 12 hours passed between the time Kelly started vomiting – say somewhere around 10pm Friday night – and his death at 10:46AM Saturday.

      Can an aspirin OD kill you in 12 hours?

    276. Yes, I think so, but he was stable at the first hospital and the Police are looking at it as a homicide. Why was he at a lumberyard?

    277. Birdgal,

      I am no medical expert but I don’t see how you can die within 12 hours from aspirin Od.

      Guess I’m gonna haveta google for more info but it sounds awfully suspocious to me.

      What do you say, confloyd?

    278. I don’t see the difference between “ERs currently treat everyone free” and “The current health bill of 2009 treats illegals free” as being that big a determining factor in very many families’ decision to sneak in. Either policy could be changed de jure at any time by Congress, and/or de facto at the local or state level by officials asking for ID and proof of citizenship when people come for treatment. (The ACLU might sue the officials, big deal.)
      —————————
      I think the incentive to come here for medical treatment is greater if the right to receive that treatment is GUARANTEED as a matter of law. I do not know what the legal requirement is now–it may be tantamount to a guarantee in which case you would be right. The issue I am focusing on however is the incentive to act or not act in a certain matter.

    279. “Kelly made millions as a south suburban roofing contractor who secured million-dollar deals at O’Hare International Airport, Midway Airport and other city agencies. A roofing firm Kelly oversaw, BCI Commercial Roofing, along with an affiliated company, Castle Construction, were paid $7.6 million for work at O’Hare and Midway between 1999 and 2004.”

    280. basil9 Says:

      September 13th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
      Birdgal,

      I am no medical expert but I don’t see how you can die within 12 hours from aspirin Od.

      ——————————————————————————————–

      I am a nurse and I can see how someone could die within 12 hours. Depending upon the route of administration and the dose ingested, gastritis and widespread bleeding can occur. In addition, since aspirin behaves as an acid in the bloodstream, this upsets the metabolic acid-base balance in the kidneys, which can lead to seizures, coma, and death. People die everyday of aspirin overdoses. Tylenol overdoses are common and very lethal, since if not treated right away, liver failure can ensue.

    281. Thanks birdgal. I read at another site that maybe the sal ?????acyte was subsituted and that’s untraceable?

      Anyway – more about Kelly’s connection with Castle Construction. And, BTW, I’ve also read stuff linking
      MO’s brother’s plumbing company with the WTC – I will post for comments.

      The Attorney General’s office announced yesterday that a Cook County grand jury returned an indictment for Castle Construction Co., in Markham, Il. The announcement from the AG’s office is here.
      www. dot llinoisconstructionlawblog. dotom/2009/04/articles/attorney-general-announces-indictment-of-castle-construction/
      The indictment centers on an alleged scheme to defraud the City of Chicago and the CTA in two publics works contracts by concealing or misrepresenting the actual amounts of the public funds that went to minority owned businesses.

    282. Thanks birdgal. I read at another site that maybe the salicylate was subsituted and that’s untraceable?

      Anyway – more about Kelly’s connection with Castle Construction. And, BTW, I’ve also read stuff linking
      MO’s brother’s plumbing company with the WTC – I will post for comments.

      The Attorney General’s office announced yesterday that a Cook County grand jury returned an indictment for Castle Construction Co., in Markham, Il. The announcement from the AG’s office is here.
      www dot llinoisconstructionlawblog dot com/2009/04/articles/attorney-general-announces-indictment-of-castle-construction/
      The indictment centers on an alleged scheme to defraud the City of Chicago and the CTA in two publics works contracts by concealing or misrepresenting the actual amounts of the public funds that went to minority owned businesses.

    283. wbboei siad:
      I think the incentive to come here for medical treatment is greater if the right to receive that treatment is GUARANTEED as a matter of law. I do not know what the legal requirement is now–it may be tantamount to a guarantee in which case you would be right. The issue I am focusing on however is the incentive to act or not act in a certain matter.

      ==================

      I often drive a friend (who has Medicare) to the local county hospital ER for appropriate emergency and semi-emergency problems. Their waiting area is full of signs saying very emphatically that people needing emergency care are entitled to it free, regardless of whether they have insurance or can pay. Nothing said about citizenship. (And the area is usually empty of other patients.)

      Do you see a guarantee in a national bill as somehow set in cement, unchangeable?

      I’m tempted to say that any foreign family who would understand and care so much for the distinction, would be capable of immigrating legally. (Or would certainly have the capacity of becoming productive residents here, or at least becoming lawyers.)

      g,d,r

    284. OK. I confess I’m just hanging out on the proch with the parrots and my laptop but this is FRIGIN BIZARRE!

      coNNECTION BETWEEN -BO – MO – MO’ brother – and the plumbing company that installed the WTC sprinkler system.

      (warning – it does involve orly but it’s fascinating nonetheless)
      While addressing the issue of hundreds of Social Security Numbers and properties being associated with Barack Obama’s name, Dr. Taitz drew attention to two addresses of interest: one located in Illinois and another in New Jersey.

      The address located in Illinois, 1525 S. Sangamon St. Unit 707, Chicago IL was sold to an Osama Barakat. The Osama Barakat listed (Attachment F) has connections to a foundation that is listed in the “Golden Chain” as sponsors of al Qaeda.

      (Attachment C) shows an address in New Jersey for Kelly J. McCrum, wife of Craig M. Robinson. Craig Robinson is Michelle Obama’s brother, and is listed at 45 Willow Street in South Amboy, NJ. Not only can this address not be found by mapping the street, but this address had a credit lien on it by a company, Burlow Plumbing. Burlow Plumbing has a commercial affiliate named Magic Plumbing.

      (Attachment D) shows that Magic Plumbing had worked on the sprinkler system at the World Trade Center just days before 9/11. One of the men that performed this work lived in Brooklyn. He left Brooklyn on 9/11 and went to Tennessee. A woman that had a court date involving identity theft with the motor vehicle department in Tennessee met a mysterious death. Mr. Chatfield had no comment or thought in reference to this material being shown to him.

    285. I’m tempted to say that any foreign family who would understand and care so much for the distinction, would be capable of immigrating legally. (Or would certainly have the capacity of becoming productive residents here, or at least becoming lawyers.)
      ————————
      I think it depends on whether it is planned or not. It would not matter so much in an emergency room environment. I think the duty to treat the immediate problem probably is guaranteed as a matter of law. However the existence of a guarantee may be important in terms of the follow up treatment, in a non emergency room environment.

    286. Mayor: Ill. fundraiser said he OD’d before he died

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      The kelly story changes. It may not have been aspirin.

      CHICAGO (AP) — A former chief fundraiser for ousted Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich told a police officer before he died that he overdosed on a prescription drug, the mayor of the south Chicago suburb of Country Club Hills said Sunday.

      Mayor Dwight Welch did not say what drug Christopher Kelly told police he ingested, but he said authorities found a variety of drugs in Kelly’s vehicle. Kelly, 51, died Saturday at John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital in Chicago, and Welch said police are investigating the death as suicide.

    287. hello hillfriends…am out of town but touching base…

      a few thoughts…

      first, Confloyd and others speaking about premiums – that is what i have been getting at…this is outrageous… Hedges and others said it well…this is ROBBERY…the WH has already sold us out to the drug and insurance co…whatever comes after that will be in relation to their increased profits…period…and do not forget, that in the reality we are actually living in there are over 15 MILLION unemployed people and more growing daily…so on top of the poverty scale there are many MILLIONS more that will have no income…guess alot of americans will become roommates in DEBTOR’S PRISIONS after the IRS gets done breathing down our necks…

      ***************************

      Wbboei and others discussing CNN…I think we may have seen the same interview with David Siroto – he was complaining and impuging the tea protests…

      CNN is determined to drive RACISM into everything…as Don Lemon kept saying “It is the elephant in the room” every time anything critical is said about O and his plan…it is essentially written off as RACISM…

      I, for one, am sick of the whining…if O cannot be a man and take criticsim without resorting to the RACISM meme…then take your marbles and go home…and let someone…another black man or woman…or white, yellow or brown take over that can be a person without all this constant dividing…he, and people like so called progressive Sirota are taking us backwards…and trying to silence people…make them fearful to say anything…

      Wbb…Sirota is the male version of Katrina Van Huevel (SP)…they hum and haw on their blogs and then go on tv and support the fraud…they are the epitome of the hypocrisy on the left…wanting to stay relevant but still just spouting talking points…and conveniently ignoring the glaring truth…sooner or later they we be forced to realize that their ‘progressive’ savior has played them for fools…

      **********************
      don’t know if any of you caught the attractive black female democratic strategist on FOX, Jemue, something like that, cannot recal her name now, I have always liked her so much…she was a strong Hillary supporter…OMG, what a disappointment to hear her on FOX demeaning all the protestors, calling them sheep that are being led and all kinds of insulting terms…way over the top…I am sick at heart to see these wonderful dems go out there and not only lie, but demean thousands and thousands of fellow americans protesting…(and while simultaneously you have a rally for O where he is acting like an overhyped basketball coach and the people all respond on cue!)

      I watched some of the march on c-span and so many of those people could have been me and you…all or any of us…kids with their families, people in wheel chairs, grandmothers…

      …and for dems to say such things is revolting…(btw…many of us remember our protests and let’s be honest, we have our share of the extremes, but that is not the point…

      one of the highlights that I caught on c-span and definitely worth a utube imbed if anyone can find the clip…was of the black male entertainer with the tea bag express singing the tea baggers lyrics to ‘NEW York, New York’ with the protestors singing in chorus…it was great…

      *******************

      and finally Basil 9 and others, those time lapse clips of the protestors were outstanding…

    288. btw…I think the black male entertainer singing the tea bagger lyrics to NY, NY is named Marcus Lloyd…something like that…he was great…

    289. S,

      CNN is succeeding in injecting racism into everything.

      When my own brother accused me of racism, I knew he’d picked up that idea somewhere else. Like many of you on this site, I’m white and I don’t flinch from threats of being labeled racist. Any fears i had about that ended years ago in the dregs of the school slums. I’ve spent enough time in the belly of the beast to know everyone, no matter what their race, has the same capacity for good and evil.

      I saw one sign on c-span that said something like, “I’m not a racist but no matter what this sign says you’re going to call me that.'” How friggin’ sad is that? The good news is that I think the race card is approaching insolvency.

    290. Wbb…Sirota is the male version of Katrina Van Huevel (SP)…they hum and haw on their blogs and then go on tv and support the fraud…they are the epitome of the hypocrisy on the left…wanting to stay relevant but still just spouting talking points…and conveniently ignoring the glaring truth…sooner or later they we be forced to realize that their ‘progressive’ savior has played them for fools…

      **********************
      Katrina is the worst kind of progressive. A wealthy one who exploits race to obscure the real dichotomy which is class struggle. That is one thing Marx got right. She does this to protect herself.

    291. British elite unit said training Libyan special forces

      JONNY PAUL,
      Sep. 13, 2009

      LONDON – British elite forces are allegedly training Libyan Special Forces, according to a newspaper report on Saturday.

      The Daily Telegraph said the elite SAS has apparently been working with Gaddafi’s regime for the last six months, suggesting it may be connected to the release of Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al Megrahi, who was released by Scotland on compassionate grounds last month.

      The British government has been accused of engineering Megrahi’s release to promote Britain’s commercial interests, oil in particular, in Libya.

      The Prime Minister’s Office has rejected the claims, but Justice Secretary Jack Straw acknowledged trade and oil had played a part in the decision not to exclude Megrahi from an earlier prisoner transfer agreement with Tripoli.

      According to the newspaper, sources within the SAS say they are angry at being ordered to train soldiers from a country that provided the Irish Republican Army (IRA) with Semtex explosives, machine-guns and anti-aircraft missiles used against British troops during the Northern Ireland conflict. An SAS source told the Telegraph: “A small SAS training team have been doing it for the last six months as part of this cozy deal with the Libyans. From our perspective we cannot see it as part of anything else other than the Megrahi deal.”

      Another said: “The IRA was our greatest adversary – now we are training their backers. There was a weary rolling of the eyes when we were told about this.” The SAS team – said to be between four and 14 men – is training the Libyan troops in counter-terrorism techniques, including covert surveillance.

      However, techniques learned from fighting Islamic terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan is not expected to be passed on, the newspaper said.

      The Foreign Office said there was ongoing cooperation with Libya but denied that the SAS were training Libyan troops. “There is an ongoing cooperation with Libya in the field of defense. However to suggest this is part of the deal relating to Megrahi is simply untrue,” a spokesperson said.

      jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804553857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    292. If a black president cannot be called to task as a white president always has been over policy differences or policy impact, then we should not have a black president, because the ability to freely debate issues and the right of the American People of ALL RACES to participate in the political process trumps skin pigmentation. That is where these race card whore mongers are driving the debate through their incessant invocation of race. They are overplaying their hand, and leading us down the path to disaster. This is another example of how the hard left operates, and they are behind much of what we are now seeing.

    293. China to Probe Alleged ‘Dumping’ of U.S. Products

      By Bloomberg News

      Sept. 14 (Bloomberg) — China announced a probe into the alleged dumping of American auto and chicken products, two days after U.S. President Barack Obama imposed tariffs on imports of tires from the Asian nation.

      Chinese industries have complained that they’re being hurt by “unfair trade practices,” the nation’s Ministry of Commerce said on its Web site yesterday. The Beijing-based ministry is also looking into subsidies for the products, it said. It didn’t specify the imports’ value.

      The European Central Bank said last week that rising protectionism may hamper world trade and undermine the global economy’s recovery from recession. The U.S. placed tariffs starting at 35 percent on $1.8 billion of tire imports from China, backing a United Steelworkers union complaint against the second-largest U.S. trading partner.
      “While there’s friction, I suspect that the two nations will keep any disputes under control,” said David Cohen, an economist at Action Economics in Singapore. “They understand that they’re increasingly dependent as trading partners.”

      Dumping is selling goods for less than the cost of producing them.

      China’s commerce ministry said Sept. 12 that it “strongly opposes” the U.S. decision on tires and may refer the case to the World Trade Organization.

      ‘Retaliatory Spiral’

      “A sluggish global recovery and rising unemployment may increasingly tempt governments to adopt restrictive trade policy measures, which could lead to a retaliatory spiral of ever harsher trade restrictions and tensions,” the Frankfurt-based ECB said in its monthly bulletin. A resurgence of trade protectionism would “significantly impair the global recovery process” and reduce growth potential in the long run, it said.

      Yesterday’s three-paragraph statement from the Chinese commerce ministry didn’t refer to the tire dispute. “China has always steadfastly opposed trade protectionism,” the ministry said, adding that the nation was “willing to continue acting in concert with other nations to promote a global economic recovery as soon as possible.”
      The dumping and subsidy probes involve “some” auto and chicken imports from the U.S., it said, without specifying which ones.

      The U.S. decision in the tire case was a blow to Chinese producers such as GITI Tire Pte Ltd., the largest Chinese tire maker, and U.S. retailers of low-cost imports.

      ‘Unprecedented Action’

      “By taking this unprecedented action, the Obama administration is now at odds with its own public statements about refraining from increasing tariffs,” Vic DeIorio, executive vice president of GITI Tire in the U.S., said in a statement. “This decision will cost many more American jobs than it will create.”

      The U.S. duties likely won’t spark a trade war, according to White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. “For trade to work for everybody it has to be based on fairness and rules,” Gibbs said. “We’re simply enforcing those rules and would expect the Chinese to understand those rules.”

      Pork, soybean and other farm goods exporters urged Obama Sept. 3 to refrain from imposing tariffs or quotas on imports of tires from China because of the fear of retaliation against U.S. food and agriculture products.

      The U.S. consulted with Chinese officials before imposing tariffs to try to work out a solution, a U.S. trade official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The U.S. hasn’t been notified of the new dumping cases, the official said.

      If China is considering the dumping cases in retaliation for the U.S. tires decision, the U.S. could challenge that action at the WTO, the official said. The U.S. prefers holding talks to address the underlying causes of the problem in China, such as subsidies, the official said.

      bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&sid=a9igRzOC55wE

    294. 50 million new patients? More primary docs a must

      By STEVE LeBLANC

      BOSTON — President Barack Obama’s plan to revamp the nation’s health care system is facing a big hurdle with the shortage of primary care physicians.

      Extending health care to 50 million uninsured Americans could force many of those newly insured back into costly emergency rooms for routine care if they can’t find a primary care doctor.

      Massachusetts, home of the nation’s most ambitious health care law, has seen the need for primary care doctors shoot up under a 2006 law that mandates health care for nearly all residents.

      The American Academy of Family Physicians estimates the nation will need to add another 40,000 to the existing 100,000 doctors over the next decade. The group’s president, Dr. Ted Epperly, says that without more doctors, “it’s like giving everyone free bus passes, but there are only two buses.”

      google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hmauCD1_4kiQrLtvdWI3mzyBnCYgD9AMJDFO1

    295. wbboei said: However the existence of a guarantee may be important in terms of the follow up treatment, in a non emergency room environment.

      ===============

      Very good point. People talk about uninsureds getting non-emergency care from ER’s, but the ER’s must draw a line somewhere.

      Still … people from south of the border have plenty of reason to choose the USA to sneak into already, ie it’s closer and easier. If health care were a family’s main priority (and they were sophisticated enough for these distinctions), they’d make an effort to go to some country that has a more liberal healthcare policy, more firmly established than anything the US might hastily force through now.

      tdo
      probably just arguing herself onto your side

    296. wbboei,

      The race-baiting is either going to cause a civil war or a reversal of race progress made in this country.

      It is somehow more infuriating for those white guilt media elite o tcall us racist then to hear it from non-whites. You just know these a$$wipes never spent more than a couple of minutes in a crammed subway car with any people of color not from Ivy Leagues Institutions. The friggin hypocrisy is unreal.

    297. There is a tendency to say Obama is not a leftist he is a shill for Big Business, and the two are anathema.

      Wrong.

      When people think of capitalism they envision free enterprise, small business, competition and a viable middle class. That is what the term meant traditionally.

      Mr. Obama represents an entirely different form of capitalism. It is called State Capitalism. It is well suited to a global marketplace. It is dominated by sector monopolies who operate in concert with government. It sucks the blood out of the middle class.

      The operative model of Obama capitalism is China. The watchword is quasi private enterprise and political repression. That is what I believe Cass Sunstein and others in this administration are trying to construct. Individual freedom becomes a non sequitir.

      Most people have not figured this out. But it is key to understanding the meaning of “change”.

    298. It is somehow more infuriating for those white guilt media elite o tcall us racist then to hear it from non-whites. You just know these a$$wipes never spent more than a couple of minutes in a crammed subway car with any people of color not from Ivy Leagues Institutions. The friggin hypocrisy is unreal.
      ————————-
      For nearly a century this has been the policy of the left. The mother ship is gone. The parasite must find a new host.

    299. Keep an eye on Cass Sunstein. He is a heavy duty intellectual, a man of the Left, and the Regulatory Czar. He is a prolific writer, and I have breezed through a few of his books like The Law Of Fear, and other books which advocate his preference for a new constitution and a second new deal. He would be interesting to have as a professor in a class room environment, but dangerous as hell in a real world environment, unless you like social engineers. His taste in spouses however leaves something to be desired.

    300. Extending health care to 50 million uninsured Americans could force many of those newly insured back into costly emergency rooms for routine care if they can’t find a primary care doctor.
      —————————————
      There you go Confloyd. Exactly what you have predicted. And they will work cheap. If the SEIU is given the bargaining rights, Andy Stern will see to it they get minimum wage–great union representative that he is.

    301. I heard Sunstein wants to ban hunting and is for animal rights.

      I’m an animal lover and a vegetarian but I wouldn’t dream of imposing my food preferences on others. I think hunting should be regulated and as humane as possible. What I’ve learned from hunters is they have more respect for the animals they kill (and eat) then those who produce meat for the dinner table.

      If Sunstein wants to ban hunting he should also ban the raising and harvesting of animals for human consumption.

    302. Hmmmmmm….

      An interesting article at rbo ABOUIT THE Repub reaction to bozo’s speech.

      ‘It’s not just that Republicans are angry about the president’s speech,” one source said. “They are seething. Joe Wilson isn’t the only Republican who thinks the president lied for forty-five minutes. He’s just the one who said it out loud. It’s not going to cost a dime? He’s going to find $600 billion from where? There are how many uninsured? It was astonishing. We couldn’t believe it. The intensity has increased. Republicans have people who are angry and anxious and they just want to get to the midterm election ASAP.”

    303. Confloyd: I think the Council On Foreign Relations is on the balance a good organization. It has been around for nearl 100 years. It has had alot of peacemakers like George Kennan, and a few warmongers like Zieb Brevesniski as well. Their periodical Foreign Affairs is first rate.

    304. wbboei, You need to look a little closer at this organization. It’s just a different name for the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderburg Group. I will send you more information on that.

      Birdgal, thanks for your input, since I am not a nurse I couldn’t answer those questions about the suicide. It just seems that everyone connected to Obama either dies of lead poisoning (gunshot), has an unusual stroke and now death by aspirin. THe dead bodies are piling up around the WhiteHouse.

    305. Basil, they are bringing in Sustein to take our guns, that protest yesterday scared the hell out of them. It looked alot like Iran a few weeks ago, all we needed was a few garbage can fires to stoke up a notch, then all hell would have broke out.

    306. wbboei, this is a little background infor on the cfr which Rockafellar has his hands in deep.
      U.S. Foreign Policy Program
      An open question as George Bush took the oath of office on January 20, 2005, was how different American foreign policy would be in his second term in office. During his first term, he had challenged traditional approaches to foreign policy. Even before the September 11 attacks, his administration made clear that it refused to accept constraints on American freedom of action, doubted the value of international institutions, and was prepared to alienate even close allies in pursuing what it saw as American interests. Those instincts intensified in the aftermath of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The president announced the Bush Doctrine, which held that the United States would “make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these attacks and those who harbor them.” The application of this doctrine led to the Afghanistan War, which had the support of much of the rest of the world, and then the Iraq War, which did not. The administration dismissed complaints that it had invaded Iraq without the express authorization of the United Nations Security Council, even as poll after poll showed that America’s image was plunging around the world.

    307. wbboei, I sent you more info on an email, pls read and notice the names of the officers, and corporations involved with this group. They call this group the State dept. shadow dept. The CFR is running the State dept. not Hillary.

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