The Day Universal Health Care Died

Like Ismael, ship sunk by the white whale, Obama hopes now to survive by clinging to the floating casket of Ted Kennedy. It is not the first time.

We began to pick apart the curtains hiding what really happened in 2008 in Caroline Goes Plouffe:

The Obama nomination was gift-wrapped in Massachusetts [The real story of the Obama nomination gift is yet to be told. The Godfather fans will remember Godfather telling Tom Hagen Obama’s Tattaglia’s a pimp…. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Ted Kennedy Barzini all along].

It was Ted Kennedy all along. It was Kennedy who sought to preserve the memory of a false Camelot at the expense of a real America.

It was Kennedy, the Fredo of the Kennedy clan, with all his brackish history of death and sex, who sought redemption for himself and the family by keeping alive the flickering light of history as it turned to others such as the Clintons.

Like the hapless Fredo of Godfather fame, Teddy was the dimmest of three brothers:

Three days after that funeral, the Kennedys gathered at Hyannis Port for what was expected to be a somber Thanksgiving. Over that weekend, Teddy stayed up with friends one night, drinking and swapping bawdy tales about the party times with Jack. The next morning, his children’s governess quit, confiding to Rita Dallas, Joe Kennedy’s nurse, that she was appalled by Teddy’s behavior. Dallas tried unsuccessfully to convince her that it was all part of a traditional Irish wake and that she should stay.

Of course, it was more than just grieving for Jack. The ninth of nine children, Teddy’s role in the family had been that of the court jester, the jokester who entertained friends and acquaintances with stories and jokes. The man who had spent much of his life getting laughs for his role as the baby brother must have known intrinsically that Jack’s death permanently changed his standing and role in the family.

For all the good he did, Ted Kennedy’s role increasingly degenerated to preservation of the family and its legends and myths.

To those ends, the mummification of what was once flesh and blood, Ted Kennedy was the force behind Obama all along. With the Axelrod dress rehearsal during the Deval Patrick gubernatorial campaign the Obama campaign was indeed hatched and gift-wrapped in the Kennedy compound in Massachusetts.

It was Kennedy all along. John Kerry (and Christopher Dodd), would not make a move without explicit orders from Ted Kennedy. And for all the obfuscation, John Kerry privately endorsed Barack Obama well before the Iowa caucuses.

That’s right. John Kerry, with Ted Kennedy’s approval, endorsed Barack Obama before the Iowa caucuses. The public announcement however was withheld until after the New Hampshire primary because that is when the death blow was supposed to be dealt to Hillary Clinton. The Obama campaign knew it would win Iowa. Kerry, would endorse after another Obama victory in New Hampshire – and he would do it in crucial South Carolina. Big Media would know Kerry was moving on orders from Ted. This, it was presumed, would destroy Hillary.

The endorsement was weeks in the making. In the final days before the Iowa caucuses, Mr. Kerry was on the verge of announcing his support for Mr. Obama, aides said, but a final decision wasn’t made because it was not clear how it would affect the campaign. So Mr. Kerry decided to hold off on the endorsement until after New Hampshire primary.

But Hillary won New Hampshire. Hillary could not so easily be killed. So Kennedy played the race card for Barack Obama. Richardson, Dodd, Biden, all dropped out by then too on orders from Ted, but they kept lying to Bill Clinton.

Ted Kennedy pretended he was offended by Bill Clinton statements in South Carolina. Ted Kennedy pretended Hillary had insulted the Kennedy’s by saying it took Lyndon Johnson, not JFK, to pass the 1964 Civil Rights Act. But it was all pretend. Kennedy was on board with Obama well before John Kerry was on board – before the Iowa caucuses – well before.

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By Thursday, August 28, 2008, the Democratic Party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John Kennedy was gutted – to be replaced with fake Grecian columns and a death coalition in Denver.

Ted Kennedy, the master misogynist as recalled by Joan and Mary Jo, dealt the sexism, misogyny and race cards to the major players in what once was a glorious party.

Now, Obama Dimocrats along with Obama hope to slap health care reform legislation labels to the Kennedy casket as if it is to be in competition in NASCAR.

The Kennedy NASCAR casket holds a decomposing body so it is appropriate that the decomposing corpse Obama calls health insurance reform share the Ted Kennedy name.

Now we hear that 46 years experience in the Senate is valuable. Only now, from the Kennedy die nasty clan and friends do we hear odes to experience.

One year and one day ago, universal health care reform died. Ted Kennedy drove it over the bridge.

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255 thoughts on “The Day Universal Health Care Died

  1. Yes, indeed. That picture tells the story because this fucking idiot Obama is neither sophisticated nor smooth (as they make him out to be) to camouflage his feelings and intent. He is a guttersnipe from Chicago.

    So for giving up the family treasure (JFK’s name and honor) to this nincompoop, what did the Kennedy clan get in return? Fools!

  2. That picture is sad. Poor Ethel thinks that BO is like RFK; nothing could be further from the truth. Ethel is wishing for something that is an illusion

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    If Watson is comparing BO to Castro, in the framework of a grand leader and reformer, she is also deluded. BO is Bush III.

    If the Cuban health care system is so great, I wonder why, organizations from the U.S. have taken up collections for simple medical supplies, such as bandaids, for the clinics in Cuba?

  3. This is another great article that males me even angrier …These despicable men, Obama, Kerry and Kennedy ruined everything we Clinton supporters had ever hoped for. I shall never forgive or forget these rotten bastards.

  4. The Obama myths of “popularity” are already falling apart:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-poll28-2009aug28,0,7306834.story

    Obama’s job approval rating falls to new low

    The president slips to 50% in the Gallup Poll, reaching that point more quickly than most of his predecessors did.

    President Obama, who won the White House with an electoral college landslide and enjoyed soaring public approval in the weeks after his inauguration, has fallen to a 50% job approval rating in the newest daily tracking of the Gallup Poll released Thursday.

    The new low for Obama compares with his peak public job approval rating of 69% after his inauguration in January.

    The president’s sliding approval ratings in the Gallup and other national polls this summer have paralleled growing unrest about his healthcare plans.

    Polls also show that Obama has lost support for his handling of the economy, although his approval ratings for handling foreign affairs remain higher.

    The loss of support for the president on domestic issues has made it more difficult for the White House to rally support in Congress for his healthcare initiative, with lawmakers looking at midterm elections a little over a year away.

    Should the slide continue, Obama would by no means be the first president to drop below 50% in the Gallup Poll, which has been tracking public approval of presidents since Harry S. Truman.

    But Obama has reached his new low more quickly than most of his predecessors did, Gallup said. The percentage of people voicing disapproval for Obama’s job performance stands at a near-high of 43%.

  5. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2M2YWQ1ODQwNjZiOGVmZWU3MzQ2MmZmMDk4MWExZGY=

    ‘One of his favorite topics of humor was Chappaquiddick’   [Mark Hemingway]Jules Crittenden mentioned on his blog he heard Ed Klein, former foreign editor of Newsweek and editor-in-chief of The New York Times Magazine, recalling on air that Ted Kennedy liked to joke about Chappaquiddick. It seemed to defy belief, so I listened to the episode of The Diane Rehm Show in question and sure enough — I’ve transcribed what Klein told guest host Katy Kay (Here’s a link to the audio in WMA format, relevant portion starts at about 30:15):

    I don’t know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, “have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?” That is just the most amazing thing. It’s not that he didn’t feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too.

    EXCUSE ME? If that’s true, it makes Kennedy kind of a monster. The odd thing is that if you listen to the whole show, the tone of everyone involved is nauseatingly hagiographic and reverential. Klein apparently let his guard down a bit; after he lets it slip Kennedy liked to joke about the woman he killed you can actually hear in his voice that he’s trying to backpedal. The show actually cuts to a break as he’s trying to explain himself, and I seriously wonder if it wasn’t the producers trying to do Klein a favor. But I’m sorry, there appears to be little to that could explain this. It goes way beyond “you had to be there.”

    UPDATE: Blogging software was a tad buggy and didn’t respond to repeated attempts to fix audio link — it should be fixed now. Also, Ed Morrissey has the audio much more convinently packaged at this YouTube link.

  6. So why do they think he is handling of foreign affairs so HIGH? It is like they just have to give him something.

    They also keep saying that Clinton did a dive like this, but they fail to mention that his approval rating did not start at 69%. The higher they start, the harder they fall, and let’s face it, from that height the dive is with more force.

  7. Some huff&puff fool has written that Mary Jo would feel it was all worth it because it made Teddy a better public servant! you can look it up at Americanthinker.

  8. Also, part of his approval rating consists of almost all AA and and the youth who voted for him — let us see if he can win with just those blocs next time.

  9. pm317 Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
    Some huff&puff fool has written that Mary Jo would feel it was all worth it because it made Teddy a better public servant! you can look it up at Americanthinker.

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    Excuse me, but that makes me want to barf. I wonder, if the person saying it, would think his/her life would be worth snuffing out to help make someone a better public servant. I don’t think so.

  10. Admin: Another great analogy! That pic of Obama and Ethel is something! I think they look somewhat alike for the exception of the skin color.

    pm317, you have got to be kidding, someone actually wrote that?? Hopefully Mary Jo’s parents and family have long since past, so as not to see all those horrid remarks.

    Has anyone heard from wbboei??

  11. pm317

    So do you think the Jewish people think the lose of life was worth it since we have the interstates out of the Hitler mess. Sorry, something is just plain wrone with those people. I wonder what her parents think about that.

  12. Neetabug, you are right. There has been little coverage, including here, of Afghanistan and Iraq. So many scandals, so little time.

  13. “So Kennedy played the race card for Barack Obama. Richardson, Dodd, Biden, all dropped out by then too on orders from Ted, but they kept lying to Bill Clinton.”

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    I am very bitter about how Hillary was treated and having Admin reiterate in black and white what took place just makes me more determined and anxious for all of these monsters Waterloo’s to come as soon as possible.

    Just the other day, Netanyahu while in Germany was given the plans for Auswich. Plans for a gas chamber, plans for the anihilation of the Jewish race. I know one was a million times worse than the other. But this “gift” to Israel really saddens me.

  14. admin Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    The health care ad ABC and NBC won’t run:

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    That has to be the most inflammatory ad that I have ever seen. Snark.

    Our freedom of speech is definitely being controlled.

  15. neetabug Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    No one is talking about this

    August deadliest month for US in Afghanistan

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    Too sad.

  16. this kennedy/obama think is getting creepy. Maybe JFK was his father and that’s why he won’t release the birth cert…… you never know I’ve heard stories much crazier then that.

  17. neetabug Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    No one is talking about this

    August deadliest month for US in Afghanistan
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    Speaking of Afghanistan:

    From a liberal publication:

    Afghanistan Apocalypse

    “Yesterday afternoon at the Brookings Institution, four analysts portrayed a bleak and terrifying vision of the current state of affairs in Afghanistan in the wake of the presidential election. All four were hawkish, reflecting a growing consensus in the Washington establishment that the Afghanistan war is only just beginning.

    Their conclusions: (1) A significant escalation of the war will be necessary to avoid utter defeat. (2) Even if tens of thousands of troops are added to the US occupation, it won’t be possible to determine if the US/NATO effort is succeeding until eighteen months later. (3) Even if the United States turns the tide in Afghanistan, no significant drawdown of US forces will take place until five years have passed.

    The experts at the panel were Bruce Riedel, a 30-year CIA veteran and adviser to four presidents, who chaired President Obama’s Afghan task force; Michael O’Hanlon, a military expert and adviser to General David Petraeus; Tony Cordesman, a conservative military expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies; and Kim Kagan, head of the Institute for the Study of War.

    Not a single panelist questioned the goals, purpose or objectives of the Afghan war. Not one said anything about a political solution to the war, about negotiations, or about diplomacy. Not one questioned the viability of an open-ended commitment to the war. And none of them had any doubts about the strategic necessity of defeating the Taliban and its allies. Although the growing political opposition to the war was referenced in passing — more than half of Americans say the the war isn’t worth fighting, and liberal-left members of Congress are beginning to raise objections — the panel seemed to believe that President Obama can and must ignore politics and push to expand the war when General McChrystal, as expected, recommends an increase in the the level of US forces once again. O’Hanlon, a well-connected, ultra-hawkish Democrat who backed the war in Iraq, said that the chances that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi will lead congressional opposition to the war in Afghanistan in 2009-2010 are zero. “Congress will not pull the rug out from under Barack Obama, before the mid-term elections,” he asserted, calling the very idea “unthinkable” and “political suicide.”

    O’Hanlon, who had just returned from Afghanistan, acknowledged that McChrystal is “fully aware that, right now, America is not winning this war.” But he gently scolded Admiral Mullen, the chairman of the joint chiefs, for saying that the war is “deteriorating.” If Mullen goes around saying that in public, even after the addition of 21,000 US troops in 2009, he makes it harder to convince Americans that the war is winnable. O’Hanlon strongly favors adding yet more troops, but he didn’t provide numbers on how many forces the US will need ultimately. If the United States can turn things around, “In four to five years we will be able to substantially downsize.”

    more at:
    thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/466546/afghanistan_apocalypse

  18. ADMIN…yes! …I look forward the rest of the tale you will tell…

    …and the GE media and the rest of them were in on the sabatoge from well before the deeds were done, the ducks/soldiers (senators) were all lined up in a row…the Clintons were the targets…iso perfect, except for those pesky, persistant, little voters…

    it would not surprise me for this administration to convert all primaries to caucuses…

  19. for what it is worth…

    the other day I mentioned I heard speculation on TK temp senate replacement, I got the spelling wrong, it is Paul Kirk, Jr – 71 year old long time kennedy associate and dem

  20. s, Paul Kirk, no doubt part of the “Irish Mob”.

    jtjames, yeah Kennedy was white, but who really is Obama mother, do you know???

  21. Joseph Kennedy II is giving a long speech about sailing with Uncle Teddy and more on FOX. Wow! Wonder how many minutes have been alloted to him to speak? This is supposed to go for a couple of televised hours.

    We have had almost wall to wall coverage of Ted Kennedy most of the week, we had days when Tim Russert died, and we are all aware of how long the coverage was of Michael Jackson.

    Makes you wonder what we the media would do if a president died these days…weeks or months of coverage????

  22. if anyone is watching this memorial, it sure sounds like Joe Kennedy Jr is running for the seat in the special election…?

  23. Chris Dodd just said at the Ted Memorial that the Ted called him after he lost in the Iowa pormaries last year…”NOT THAT I EXPECTED TO WIN ANYWAY,” said Dodd.

  24. S Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    if anyone is watching this memorial, it sure sounds like Joe Kennedy Jr is running for the seat in the special election…?

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    To be quite honest, I am sick of the Kennedys. They are a very entitled clan.

  25. birdgal…perhaps that is why all these tributes for the last few nights have had very low ratings…people are tired of hearing this story…overkill…

  26. I think these people like hearing themselves talk…
    can you imagine O tomorrow…oh, heck, I have already made plans, I am going to have to miss it…gee wiz…!

  27. birdgal, lets just do what TK said to do when he endorsed Odrama. Its time for real change in American, lets leave the Kennedy’s at home. Its time for new blood in politics.

  28. I am here in Arlington VA

    I will be flying out of here tomorrow

    I hear he will be buried at Arlington cemetery

    I hope i can get out of here in time

  29. jt james, as per your post, your right we don’t know. The man has been our President for almost 8 months and we know nothing about him. We don’t what kind of grades he made, we know nothing of his college years, we just don’t know anything about this man that is running the greatest country of earth. Thats whats the real problem is people are afraid of him because he has no past, at least any that can be verified. So be it, people are waking up out of the kool-aid drunk they’ve been on since before the primary.

  30. confloyd

    Its time for real change in American, lets leave the Kennedy’s at home. Its time for new blood in politics.
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    Except for the CLINTONS

  31. confloyd Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
    birdgal, lets just do what TK said to do when he endorsed Odrama. Its time for real change in American, lets leave the Kennedy’s at home. Its time for new blood in politics.

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    I haven’t watched any of it, and I don’t plan on doing so. The Kennedys act like the Senate is the House of Lords, and a senate seat is passed on through the family. There have been others ie Lodge and ones that I can’t remember. It is definitely tme for new blood. Croakley sounds good. If Joe Sr. was around he would buy the senate seat again, like he did for Ted.

  32. webmail.aol.com/44148/aol/en-us/Suite.aspx
    h stuff no ws

    This says that commercial real estate is the next bust, and it names the 10 cities most effected. Might mess with that glorious recover they are all trying to sell. I have noticed here a big building of commercial real estate, and no one moving in.

  33. Phillip Garrido…The pedophile that abducted the 11 y/o 18 years ago. He gave an interview to CNN today, or yesterday, i just heard it, and it was so grandiose, delusional and narcissistic, I couldn’t help but compare him…to “HIM”

  34. turndownobama Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    TK was punished very severely for the accident at Chappa. Everyone (including me) said he did not have the right instincts for being President. Many people also accused him of having some scandalous relationship to the passenger, and/or of deliberate murder, and that slander has stuck; a very harsh and unjust punishment imo.
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    REALLY?…You MUST be jesting, you must!

  35. JanH Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Pelosi asks for $100K to fight ’smears’

    By: Alex Isenstadt
    August 27, 2009 02:15 PM EST

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has launched an urgent effort to raise $100,000 by Monday to help combat what she calls GOP “smears” about health care reform.
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    She could squeeze her face and collect all the botox and resale it!

  36. JanH Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Pelosi asks for $100K to fight ’smears’

    By: Alex Isenstadt
    August 27, 2009 02:15 PM EST

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has launched an urgent effort to raise $100,000 by Monday to help combat what she calls GOP “smears” about health care reform.
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    She could squeeze her face and re-sale the Botox, Easy $100,000

  37. neetabug, Of coarse, the exception is the Clintons. I am still hoping beyond hope that someday our girl will be our POTUS.

    How old is Soros, anybody know, isn’t it time for the Lord to call him back also, then maybe we can go ahead get this country back on track? LOL!!

    Gonzotex, ROTFLMAOF!! That is green technology, heh??

  38. That pedofile is really out to lunch. Talking to God and the angels in a box with headphones. He must be smoking the same stuff our dear leader smokes cause both of them are delusional.

  39. confloyd Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    That pedofile is really out to lunch. Talking to God and the angels in a box with headphones. He must be smoking the same stuff our dear leader smokes cause both of them are delusional.

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    Confloyd, the guy is mentally ill. He is psychotic, in addition to all his other issues.

  40. Barack Obama must abandon the Kennedy way, or he will fail: The President faces a crucial dilemma as he attempts to revive his fortunes, argues Fred Barnes.

    By Fred Barnes
    Published: 28 Aug 2009

    Teddy Kennedy was known as the liberal lion of the US Senate. But in fact, he hadn’t roared in decades. Even though his funeral today marks the end of the Kennedy family’s political saga, Kennedy liberalism, the brand of Left-wing politics with which the family was identified, died years ago.

    Kennedy, who served as a senator from the Left-wing state of Massachusetts for 46 years, supported Barack Obama in last year’s Democratic primaries in the hope that an Obama presidency would lift Washington to new heights of liberal progress, as Franklin Roosevelt had during the Depression and John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson did in the 1960s. He was wrong. A liberal president, and lopsided liberal Democratic majorities in the Senate and House, had indeed arrived. But the country, centre-Right for the past 30 years, hadn’t changed.

    Even before the senator’s death from a brain tumour, at the age of 77, his hopes of a liberal revival had been dispelled. He had already been disappointed by the moderate Democratic policies during Bill Clinton’s presidency in the 1990s – hence his endorsement of Obama over Hillary Clinton, which created a rift that never healed (after Kennedy’s death, the Clintons were among the last prominent figures to offer their condolences). Under Obama, Kennedy’s senate committee passed a health-care reform measure with his liberal stamp on it, his aides having written its provisions. But its chances of being enacted, even if renamed the Kennedy Health Care Reform Act, are poor.

    The same is true for much of Obama’s agenda. The Kennedy bill is fine with the President, as are other suggested versions of health-care reform that would increase spending, tighten the regulation of insurers and give the government in Washington a bigger role. But the public has taken a different view. Rather than embrace the liberalism of Kennedy and Obama, a growing majority of Americans have soured on its vision of greater spending, higher taxes, more government control of corporations, sharp limits on carbon emissions, support for the unions, and stiffer regulation of Wall Street, banks and hedge funds.

    The trend was foreshadowed on election day itself: in exit polls, 34 per cent of voters identified themselves as conservatives, 22 per cent as liberals, and 44 per cent as moderates. As the Obama presidency settled in, the trend accelerated. In late spring, a poll showed conservatives prevailing over liberals, 40 per cent to 20 per cent. By summer, 39 per cent of Americans said they were growing more conservative. Obama’s popularity dropped precipitously.

    As it turned out, the Democratic victory in 2008 had mostly been the result of distaste for the Republicans, seen as responsible for the George Bush presidency, the war in Iraq, and the economic collapse six weeks before the election. Now, seven months into Obama’s White House term, voters are showing, at least in opinion surveys, an increasing preference for Republicans.

    Of course, if Obama follows Kennedy’s path, he will retain the affection of one important group until the end: the press corps. The senator’s death was treated in the media as the tragic loss of an irreplaceable leader of the nation. One journalist reported that on Martha’s Vineyard, where Kennedy took his holidays in the summer, “it feels a bit like 9/11… end-of-summer weather is achingly beautiful but the mood is melancholy because of Teddy”.

    The cheerleaders were mourning not just a man, but a political philosophy. Kennedy’s heyday was the 1960s and 1970s, the years of liberal ascendency. His brother was finishing his second year as president when Teddy was elected, at 32, to fill his former Senate seat. He was thought by many to be unqualified for the job, but soon became a deft deal-maker. In 1965, he played an important role in loosening America’s immigration laws, allowing millions of non-Europeans to enter. He was also a strong backer of historic health-care reforms – the introduction of Medicare for the elderly and Medicaid for the poor – that were enacted that year.

    His passion for these issues remained intact – but the country changed around him. In 2007, Kennedy was the key Democrat supporter of immigration reforms that would have let 12 million illegal immigrants become full-fledged citizens. This time, however, the bill faced angry grassroots opposition, and failed. The same was true for health care. Liberals in the US have been promoting national health insurance since Harry Truman was president in the 1940s. Yet Kennedy’s backing – deemed critical – wasn’t enough to stop the loss of support for “ObamaCare”. Even Kennedy’s last major legislative achievement was bittersweet. In 2001, he joined forces with President Bush to sponsor an education reform measure that required schoolchildren to take tests. The law, called “No Child Left Behind”, was opposed by many liberals, including the teachers’ unions, and Kennedy later regretted his sponsorship of it. Indeed, many of his earlier accomplishments had also helped the conservative cause. In the 1970s, he helped deregulate airlines and railroads, now seen as conservative triumphs. Moreover, his run for the presidency in 1980 – which was derailed after the accident in Chappaquiddick re-emerged as an issue – weakened Jimmy Carter, the Democratic incumbent, and helped Ronald Reagan win the White House.

    Obama has expressed admiration for Reagan’s skill as a transformational leader. But Reagan campaigned as a conservative, then governed as one. Obama ran as a centrist, eager to end partisanship and ideological polarisation in Washington. But he’s governed as a Kennedy liberal, and that’s why he’s in trouble. The public likes Obama, but only a minority (mainly white liberals and African-Americans) favour his plans to enlarge the size and scope of the federal government. Americans, while not anti-government, are deeply suspicious of Washington. They prefer to decentralise power among states and localities. And they baulk at tax rises and surges in spending.

    As he barnstorms outside Washington, Obama has rubbed many up the wrong way. He has accused doctors of gouging; Americans love their doctors. He had denounced what he calls “the business mentality”; Americans are overwhelmingly pro-business. So Obama will have to make a choice: stick with the liberalism of Kennedy, or move to the centre, as Clinton did after the Republican landslide in 1994. Clinton revived his presidency, won approval for welfare reform, was re-elected, and warded off impeachment.

    Kennedy and other liberals fumed at his apostasy, and that bloc is determined to keep the President from “pulling a Clinton”. But if Obama sides with them, he’s likely to strengthen the growing coalition against him, which has already hindered his health-care, energy, and immigration initiatives. Already, the Democrats are trailing in two key races for governor this year. Strategists in both parties predict sizeable gains for Republicans in next year’s congressional elections. So retreat to the centre may be Obama’s best hope. Teddy Kennedy wouldn’t agree – but then he never made it to the presidency.

    telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6106990/Barack-Obama-must-abandon-the-Kennedy-way-or-he-will-fail.html

  41. JanH Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
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    I think the article is incorrect. BO is more Republican than liberal; he is Bush III.

  42. Admin:

    So, as suspected, you have confirmed what countless fans have really known all along, without verification. Not only was the “fix in” long before the primary season began in 2008, the BHO speech at the 2004 Democratic convention was the “public launch” of this Kennedy treason to the now “Dimocratic” Party. This senator, who I had for the most part forgiven for Chappaquidick, along with most Democrats, (and who I foolishly defended for almost FORTY years) betrayed millions of loyal Dems as well as the Clintons in his quest to continue the Kennedy Dynasty through BHO. Just one aspect of this was of course, to clear Hillary’s NY Senate seat for Caroline, etc.

    Can’t wait to hear more facts and “straight talk” from Admin as the days go on. NOTHING surprises us anymore – not even that we were exploited – milllions of Democrats – who have now LEFT the party of JFK and RFK.

    How appropriate that the tropical storm that headed toward the east coast be named Danny Boy. Time for an Irish famine in D.C.

  43. curiousityhasme, I also thought how ironic it was to have a hurricane Danny (boy) blowing in on the day of the funeral. Its almost like a omen.

  44. Thanks for telling the truth, admin. The truth can be brutal. It is uncomfortable for many of us to speak the truth without being attacked. When the powers that be have done everything in their power to convince the public that their lies are the truth, it takes courage to remind us of the past and what we all know really happened behind closed doors.

  45. If Admin were to take all of these articles and fashion them into a book about the 2008 elections, it would be a runaway bestseller.

  46. Admin 3:37

    You know what I find interesting about that video, is her finger. That is a very agressive defiant image, and I think when you see that you get defensive.

  47. JanH Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
    If Admin were to take all of these articles and fashion them into a book about the 2008 elections, it would be a runaway bestseller.

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    But, then he/she/them would be known……………there is always a pseudonym……………………..

  48. Does anyone think the truth will ever be confirmed? Will someone admit to the truth on their dead bed half a century from now? Will Bill or Hillary ever confirm what really happened last year after Obama leaves office or before one of them dies? Will a journalist finally be able to uncover the truth? I really hope so because right now only “fringe” sites on the Left and pro-Hillary sites are willing to talk about the closed room deals that happened last year.

  49. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    S Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    I agree with you “S”. Obama was groomed to run for president as early as 2004 and who knows what plans were in the works long before the Dem convention. Politicians don’t react because of “hurt feelings” or offhand comments. These are very calculating individuals. Each move they make is for a good reason to benefit themselves and their political power. Hillary and Bill publicly support Obama because they are following their political intuition, not their emotions. Ted’s backing of Obama wasn’t just a whim and it didn’t just happen immediately after Hillary’s LBJ comment. That is an excuse that the Dem Party and loyal supporters in the MSM make to somehow place the blame on Hill and Bill for being “racists”. It’s BS. Don’t believe it.

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    Well said.

  50. This is just unbelievable:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0809/Edwards_arrives_at_Kennedy_service.html?showall

    John Edwards just arrived along with wife Elizabeth at the John F. Kennedy Library for tonight’s private memorial service for family and friends of Ted Kennedy, where Vice President Joe Biden and senators John McCain, Orrin Hatch and Christopher Dodd will speak. Edwards arrived a few minutes after Caroline Kennedy.

    Edwards said of Kennedy, “He was never shy about sharing credit for anything,” and said that “Even though they may have opposed him politically, every single Republican senator had enormous respect for Senator Kennedy – and most of them had a lot of personal affection for him.”

  51. HighlyEducatedHillarySupporter Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    We still don’t know who killed JFK or RFK. I don’t think those trillionaires that run the World will EVER let it happen. If it does, it will be by a mistake and the Grace of God.

  52. The Kopechne family has had extra suffering because of the rightwing rumours about scandalous misconduct by their daughter. It’s bad enough to lose her in an accident without all the nasty rumours also. Imo we should not be spreading those rumours.

  53. turndownobama Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
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    You can think what you want, but as for me, TK is as guilty as hell, no rumor intended!

  54. admin Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    This is just unbelievable:

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    Do you think they were invited or just showed up? Seems tacky.

  55. birdgal Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    admin Says:

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    That Woman must be out of her mind!

  56. If Edwards showed up to talk, then it was definitely a conspiracy. I wonder if the Richardson will show up? Looks like everybody is there but the Clinton, well imagine that. Its all right there in living color all the backstabbers in the same room with the biggest one of all in the casket with Danny boy blowing in. Soon it will be the end of the liberals ahats, they’ll never be heard from again. I hope they all loose their seats and offices. None of these jerks and jerkettes can hold a candle to the Clinton’s.

  57. Is there anyway anyone can check on Wobbei? Hope he is okay and enjoying a great vacation or the like.

  58. confloyd, The Clintons will be a tomorrow’s funeral.

    BTW, I found Fred Barnes’ comment interesting. He said Ted was upset at Bill Clinton for being a moderate, and that’s why he endorsed Obama over Hillary. That actually sounds plausible to me. I always thought Ted being angry at Hillary’s RFK comments (which, of course, were misrepresented by the media) was just an excuse to explain his O endorsement, and not the real story.

  59. I did just get thru watching the memorial…

    and on a purely emotional level, all i can say is “what if?”

    ‘what if, Ted Kennedy had passed ‘the torch’ to Hillary Clinton…knowing Hillary Clinton, she would have chosen O as her VP…

    …the Democratic party would have been whole…warts and all…and we would have our ‘champion’ in Hillary to fight for health reform…and fight she would have, not vacillate and jerk around like O…and the democratic party probably would have been on its way to a 16 year run…

    …INSTEAD…to me, it feels like Ted Kennedy pushed the Clintons aside, and in doing so, pushed the Clinton dems aside with them…Ted Kennedy, who tonight, was hailed by so many people for all this kindness and thoughtfulness, seemed to have had the biggest heart for everyone…all his political friends…everyone but the Clintons…and us…

    …the insult, the pain, the disrespect…to cast and override the Clintons…and us…almost as if to make President Bill Clinton and at that time, Senator Hillary Clinton invisible and certainly the ‘past’ and irrelevant…is unforgiveable…and I cannot help but think that he did the same kind of thing to the Democratic party before, when he ran against Carter…right or wrong…TK had a very divisive streak…along with all the good he may or may not have done…he did a lot of irreparable damage…

    …as I mentioned a couple of days ago, I grew up in New England and lived in Boston during my college days, so like it or not, I have alot of emotional attachment to so many memories from those days…and yes, the Kennedy family…

    …what Ted Kennedy did to Bill and Hillary Clinton…and to us…was unnecessary and unforgiveable…and now the irony is that we are stuck with the results and he won’t even be around to see the damage that is being done…or around to try to correct it…

  60. Watched part of the memorial on C-span. Thank god Caroline did not become a US senator. John, Robert and Ted had some talent, but the rest of that family is pretty short in the IQ department.

  61. S Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    …the Democratic party would have been whole…warts and all…and we would have our ‘champion’ in Hillary to fight for health reform…and fight she would have, not vacillate and jerk around like O…and the democratic party probably would have been on its way to a 16 year run…

    =============

    Yes. TK’s bad decision to fight Hillary in 2008 fits with his bad decision to challenge President Carter. TK did not have enough party loyalty, did not support party unity.

    (Well, us Pumas have a good reason. 🙂

  62. so Bill and Hillary were not there and the Edwards showed up.

    Sounds like the Obama cheering section was given their orders.

  63. For anyone hording any misplaced feelings about Ted…he liked a good joke, especially about Chappaquiddick…fitting, the “dick” part that is…
    Found it @ NQ

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    noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/08/28/teds-favorite-jokes-were-about-chappaquiddick/#more-31406

  64. From American Thinker via NQ
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    Liberal at Huffpo thinks Mary Jo Kopechne didn’t mind dying for Ted
    Rick Moran

    Maybe she phrased it wrong. Maybe liberal blogger Melissa Lafsky writing in Huffpo this morning had a brain cramp and wrote something she didn’t want to.

    Maybe aliens made her do it.

    Somehow, some explanation must be given for this kind of incredible, tone deaf, idiocy:

    We don’t know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she’d have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history. What we don’t know, as always, could fill a Metrodome.

    Still, ignorance doesn’t preclude a right to wonder. So it doesn’t automatically make someone (aka, me) a Limbaugh-loving, aerial-wolf-hunting NRA troll for asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted’s death, and what she’d have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.

    Who knows — maybe she’d feel it was worth it.

    I don’t know about you, but I sure would rather be alive and kicking than being the “catalyst” for the notion that Kennedy could never be president because of my death and this was somehow a good thing because of all the good my killer did during the rest of his life, being forced to abandon his presidential aspirations and serve in the senate.

    Mary Jo Kopechne – Martyr to Kennedy’s failed ambition.

    Of all the millions of words, tens of thousands of articles, blog posts, and other scribblings by liberals over the death of Ted Kennedy, this may be the most amazingly shallow, myopic, and ultimately self centered sentence ever written.

    But it does highlight the liberal mindset quite well, don’t you think? To left wing fanatics like Lafsky, human life does not belong to the individual, but to the higher cause of the collective good. For Lafsky, of course Kopechne would, if she had a crystal ball and been able to see the future, have sacrificed herself on the altar of social “progress” rather than live a full life filled with friends, family, kids, and a fulfilling career.

    What a despicable thing to write.

  65. I knew they were going to be at the funeral, but it she seems to me everyone was there tonight for the lifetime acheivement awards that he did not deserve especially in light of what this country now has to go thru for his selfishness.

    I know that the Kennedy liberals hate Bill and Hill because I used to blog over at the DNC blog and they are a nasty group of individuals. They said Hillary was as mean a person as their could be. I never believed it.

  66. ‘what if, Ted Kennedy had passed ‘the torch’ to Hillary Clinton…knowing Hillary Clinton, she would have chosen O as her VP”

    ———————————-

    And he would have had the indecency, inexperience, bullying and all, to accept VP. And then Hillary would have had to watch her back every 30 seconds for all the knives he would be throwing and all the innuendos he would start so he could get her impeached and take over.

  67. Liberal at Huffpo thinks Mary Jo Kopechne didn’t mind dying for Ted
    Rick Moran
    Maybe she phrased it wrong. Maybe liberal blogger Melissa Lafsky writing in Huffpo this morning had a brain cramp and wrote something she didn’t want to.

    Maybe aliens made her do it.

    Somehow, some explanation must be given for this kind of incredible, tone deaf, idiocy:

    We don’t know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she’d have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history. What we don’t know, as always, could fill a Metrodome.

    Still, ignorance doesn’t preclude a right to wonder. So it doesn’t automatically make someone (aka, me) a Limbaugh-loving, aerial-wolf-hunting NRA troll for asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted’s death, and what she’d have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.

    Who knows — maybe she’d feel it was worth it.

    I don’t know about you, but I sure would rather be alive and kicking than being the “catalyst” for the notion that Kennedy could never be president because of my death and this was somehow a good thing because of all the good my killer did during the rest of his life, being forced to abandon his presidential aspirations and serve in the senate.

    Mary Jo Kopechne – Martyr to Kennedy’s failed ambition.

    Of all the millions of words, tens of thousands of articles, blog posts, and other scribblings by liberals over the death of Ted Kennedy, this may be the most amazingly shallow, myopic, and ultimately self centered sentence ever written.

    But it does highlight the liberal mindset quite well, don’t you think? To left wing fanatics like Lafsky, human life does not belong to the individual, but to the higher cause of the collective good. For Lafsky, of course Kopechne would, if she had a crystal ball and been able to see the future, have sacrificed herself on the altar of social “progress” rather than live a full life filled with friends, family, kids, and a fulfilling career.

    What a despicable thing to write.

  68. I can think of no reason why edwards and his wife are there except to get on the bandwagon and redeem their places in politics. A little sucking up at times like this is so good for the hanger-ons with such shallow egos.

    Already we have richardson getting a “get out of jail” free card with no inditements against him. How convenient. So now he will make a triumphant return to bambi’s side along with daschle and the rest of the idiots. I think edwards would give anything to become a “somebody” again instead of the “nobody” he really is.

  69. # birdgal Says:
    August 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    admin Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    This is just unbelievable:

    ——————————————————————————

    Do you think they were invited or just showed up? Seems tacky.

    ——–

    Yikes. I really hope that someone invited them because that’s just embarrassing. Especially for Elizabeth having to be paraded around as if she’s actually happily married. John Edwards is a has-been with no political future. I don’t even think he was close friends to anyone in the Kennedy family. So why is he there?

  70. Wonder what John Edwards knows about all the “behind the scene ” stuff that went on in the run up to the primaries and during it?

  71. JanH Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
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    so true…

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    Southern Born Says:

    August 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

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    Edwards will probably be reduced to writing a tell all book to meet all his additional financial needs for his two families…or to stay ‘visible’…yeah, that’s it…then he can go on a national book tour!

  72. Hello Admin, JanH, Southern Born, gonzotx, confloyd, Paula, bridgal et al

    I just wanted to come out and say, I am still here. I still read every single day. I want to salute the dedication admin has shown in keeping our flock together.
    I love reading the posts and the comments.

    “The proof of the pudding is in the eating” we can see what a disaster Obama is. Everything he has touched has failed. No wonder, Hillary took up the position as SOS – she must have figured that way she is at least out of the country!!

  73. Secret, Glad to see your still coming to see what we are talking about. Hope everything is good for you and yours.

  74. Thanks Confloyd, things are okayish on my end. Hope things are good on yours!
    ==================================================
    Southern Born, Ha ha ha ha – yes, I do have the knife. Should I use it yet? LOL

  75. Just checking, “Secret”, to make sure that it was really you. Glad you are still here. We missed you.

  76. Southern Born, Thanks for saying that.
    ================
    JanH, It’s lovely to hear from you. Hope all is well with you. Thanks for saying that, you are always kind.

  77. Does anyone know how to change our login password?

    I still have the automatically generated one. Hard to remember that. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!!

    Thanks

  78. Secret, log out. Then log in but tell them you forgot your password and they will send you another one via email. I forgot mine a long time ago and that is how I got a new password. BUT…it’s a real doozy with numbers, upper and lower case letters and symbols…nothing I can NOT remember so I have it written down in a permanent place.

    I’m sure there are better and easier ways to get a new password, however, this one will work.

  79. SB, ha ha ha. Yes, I have saved my password somewhere safe, but a pain to keep looking at it. It would have been easier – if we can change it to something we can remember!!

    You try and go to bed now. Good night then!

  80. If everything else fails, Afghanistan will be The One’s waterloo. Fighting with Afghanistan did not go well for the Russians, right?

  81. Southern Born Says:
    August 29th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Secret, log out. Then log in but tell them you forgot your password and they will send you another one via email. I forgot mine a long time ago and that is how I got a new password. BUT…it’s a real doozy with numbers, upper and lower case letters and symbols…nothing I can NOT remember so I have it written down in a permanent place.

    I’m sure there are better and easier ways to get a new password, however, this one will work.

    ================

    After you get the password they send, log in with it, then ‘change password’ to whatever you want.

  82. SEcret and Southern,

    When I’m logged in, there is a line above the ‘Leave a Reply’ box that says

    ‘Logged in as turndownobama. Logout’

    If I click on turndownobama, it takes me to a Profile page and at the bottom of the page there is a place to enter a new password.

  83. I had no idea there was so much hatred between Bill and Kennedy. I am sure that is why the Kennedy’s knew they had to groom someone very, very early to take out Hillary. The Obama snow job was in the works its seems for a long, long time.

    Seems that Bill and Hillary sould have seen this coming
    I

  84. Beginning in January 2008 I contacted Kerry, Kennedy and other Dem leaders via USPS on an increasingly frequent basis to protest the Party push for Obama. Here’s a curious message I received shortly after TK’s diagnosis was made public. It is dated June 02, 2008, is printed on old TK campaign stationery, and written by JP (initials only to give the woman some privacy) whom I presumed to be an office staffer.

    Body of the message: I want to thank you for writing to Senator Kennedy and assure you that you have been heard. The Senator values your comments and is doing what he can to uphold our country’s priorities and ideals.

  85. dot48, I wonder what could have happened between Bill and Ted to make them hate each other so?? I can imagine Bill did not give Ted his due as Ted thought he should have, but there are many time we would see the Clintons on that sail boat of his in Hyannisport. There are pics of it in either Hillary’s or Bill’s book. I will need to look and see which book has the pics.

  86. Good Morning. Always great to see a return poster.

    In this state, if you are at the core of the party, and do not fold into the party dictate, you are hated. So those that did not fold into OO, of course have a problem at this point. Of the two I know, one was always an outsider, as he always did what he wanted. I have come to admire that.

    In other words, for me, if you don’t agree with the party, I now trust you.

  87. I have been off the blog for a few days working on a related project, Frankly, I did not have the stomach for the Kennedy funeral orations. They buried the Pharohs with less pomp and ceremony than this man. What they say about him now is mostly fiction which they hope will keep his organization intact but that will be difficult. This dynasty is dust. Obama would like to be the successor but it will not work for the very reasons Barnes points out. And therein lies the dilemma. If Obama moves to the middle he loses the left and if he stays on the left he loses the center. And, if he or his minions resort to terror as we saw with Whole Foods that will backfire. If what is happening now was a movie like say 3 days of the condor, we could sit back and take in the plot. The problem is its real and the warning signals are hardly encouraging. The issue I have with Fred’s analysis is the one I always have with Freds analysis. Its alway the 50,000 foot level analysis which does not tell you much about what is going on on the ground and it assumes continuity meaning the cycles of history nonsense which the late Arthur Slessinger 3 olive martini in hand was famous for. That is to say, it assumes continuity, but what if what we are dealing with here is discontinuity. How valid is Fred’s analysis then.

    I spoke to ABM 90 a couple days ago and he is well. He stays busy and is an inspiration to me and all of you I am sure.

    I continue to marvel at the brilliance of Admin. The insights, the depth of analysis, the accuracy of predictions, and the ability to keep up with the floodtide of events is nothing short of remarkable. I concur with others who have said they do not know what they would do without this site.

  88. In this state, if you are at the core of the party, and do not fold into the party dictate, you are hated. So those that did not fold into OO, of course have a problem at this point. Of the two I know, one was always an outsider, as he always did what he wanted. I have come to admire that.
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    NMF: it is an interesting psychology. One can only wonder what happens when the haters become the hated. The question then becomes when to jump ship. When I was in college, I had a con law professor who was a brilliant maniac depressant. He finally committed suicide. He taught in the south during the civil rights movement and was at the forefront of the cause. That made him very unpopular with the right. When the Viet Nam War came along, he locked horns with the student radicals and other professors. That made him very unpopular with the left. There is something to be said for someone who could maintain his values through all that but from everything I could tell, with one noteable exception. He went along with a move by the powers that be with the school to oust a left wing professor who was a thorn in the side of the institution. He regretted it later and became vocal. Whereupon those same forces came after him, and tried to have him committed. That is the kind of situation the haters within the party may find themselves at some later date when the Obama balloon runs out of air. A progressive friend predicts that may happen by years end.

  89. The progressives I talk to are on notice and are watching Obama like a hawk, as he tries to walk the line between the deals he has made with big business and the values he portrayed to progressives. It appears to me that a schism is developing within the progressive community between those who are true to progressive values, and those who are true only to Obama, i.e. dailykos and move on. org. Other progressives are noticing that these organizations who were opposed to war in the middle east when bush was president have grown strangely silent as Mr Obama expands the War in Afghanistan. It makes them wonder whether these two organizations are really progressive at all. And if they are not progressives, then what exactly are they?

  90. “I wonder what could have happened between Bill and Ted to make them hate each other so??”

    —————————

    Maybe the simple fact that Bill Clinton reached the highest post, that of Potus, and Teddy was always the runner-up, the wallflower, the jealous little bully.

  91. I got into a long discussion last night about whether we have a divided country. I do not think it is so much divided as misinformed. And scared about what will happen. The only antidote is the truth.

  92. So long as cash makes the political system go ’round we will have to grapple with all the problems which bad politics create – and that means most of our problems.
    There are many in our merry little gang who realize that we yawp and heave about Barky, his enablers, his imperious selfishness and the rest of it – but precious little is achieved by it. We certainly have the human need to just ventilate our spleens and there is a certain joy in that, but I think that there is something more fundamental that we fail to grapple with – something which is the source for just about all the travail and misery that we lament. I refer, of course, to money.
    Our political system is awash in money. Barky hauled in almost a billion dollars to usurp the last election; Bush did it the same way. The lobbyists rule in Washington. Their power over individual members of Congress is pitiable to watch. I’ve worked in the House of Representatives and I have seen it in action. It is more than sad and its implications are terrifying.
    The knowledge that this situation prevails in all the state capitals and in Washington prevents a great many talented people from running for public office. Let’s face it, most of the candidates in all the parties are flagrant phonies who don’t truly give a damn about real public service. They know that politics is a begging job, chasing after campaign millions virtually all of the time – and then the inevitable payback when it comes time to write legislation or vote.
    All those dollars are buying something – and it is a lot more than just “access”. It is special pleading, special consideration, favored treatment. Those like Soros who write those whopping big checks just see it as a business expense and they have the full satisfaction of knowing that they have truly “bought something”.
    The system has become so suppurated because of the rising importance and costs of TV advertising and polling. I know it has been tried before and failed, but I just know that SOMEHOW we can legislate and regulate so that a reasonable amount of airtime would be available for a reasonable time to candidates – gratis. The length of campaigns could be limited to a more reasonable time, say, three months. The costs would be a great deal lower, more better people would be willing to get in and the influence of the corporations and the fat cats would be correspondingly smaller.
    It would not be Nirvana, but it would be one helluva lot better than the disgusting cash derby we have now. I know it is a daunting problem but one day we have to deal with a system which has shown such miserable results because it is, at bottom, about money and not about people.

  93. Sen. Feingold, in the WSJ, fires the first salvo in the war against the war…

    By RUSS FEINGOLD

    “After nearly eight long years, we seem to be no closer to the end of the war in Afghanistan. In fact, given the current buildup of U.S. troops and the possibility that even more may be deploying soon, many Americans, and many Afghans, wonder what we hope to achieve—and when our service members will start to come home.
    We went into Afghanistan with a clear mission: to destroy those who helped to perpetrate the horrific 9/11 attacks. I voted to authorize sending our forces there because it was vital to our national security, and I strongly criticized the previous administration for shortchanging that mission in favor of a misguided war in Iraq.
    President Barack Obama is rightly focusing on this critical part of the world. But I cannot support an open-ended commitment to an escalating war in Afghanistan when the al Qaeda operatives we sought have largely been captured or killed or crossed the border to Pakistan.

    Ending al Qaeda’s safe haven in Pakistan is a top national security priority. Yet our operations in Afghanistan will not do so, and they could actually contribute to further destabilization of Pakistan. Meanwhile, we’ve become embroiled in a nation-building experiment that may distract us from combating al Qaeda and its affiliates, not just in Pakistan, but in Yemen, the Horn of Africa and other terrorist sanctuaries.

    We need to start discussing a flexible timetable to bring our brave troops out of Afghanistan. Proposing a timetable doesn’t mean giving up our ability to go after al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Far from it: We should continue a more focused military mission that includes targeted strikes on Taliban and al Qaeda leaders, and we should step up our long-term civilian efforts to deal with the corruption in the Afghan government that has helped the Taliban to thrive. But we must recognize that our troop presence contributes to resentment in some quarters and hinders our ability to achieve our broader national security goals….”
    The rest is here;

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574376872733294910.html

  94. I agree wholeheartedly with what was said above. Ted Kennedys treachery had nothing to do with what Hilllary or Bill said or failed to say. It had everything to do with Ted and his delusions of a second Camelot. But in the end, the whole thing gets washed away like footprints in the sand.

  95. Blue: you are right. Two things big business did to undermine democracy:

    1. purchase big media

    2. hijack campaign finance reform

    The American People need to know this, and what it means.

  96. When I look at the boycott of Whole Foods and the public indifference I am reminded of that line by Yeats:

    The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

  97. from the bureau of labor statistics for July;

    For release: 10:00 A.M. (EDT)
    Media contact: (202) 691-5902 Wednesday, July 29, 2009

    Of the 49 metropolitan areas with a Census 2000 population of 1
    million or more,

    Detroit-Warren-Livonia, Mich., reported the highest
    unemployment rate in June, 17.1 percent.

    The large areas with the
    next highest rates were Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, Calif., 13.7
    percent; Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, N.C.-S.C., 12.4 percent; Las
    Vegas-Paradise, Nev., 12.3 percent; and Providence-Fall River-Warwick,
    R.I., 12.1 percent. Eighteen additional large areas posted rates of
    10.0 percent or more. The large areas with the lowest jobless rates
    in June were Oklahoma City, Okla., 6.0 percent; Washington-Arlington-
    Alexandria, D.C.-Va.-Md.-W.Va., 6.6 percent; and San Antonio, Texas,
    6.9 percent. All 49 large areas registered over-the-year unemployment
    rate increases of at least 2.0 percentage points. Detroit-Warren-
    Livonia, Mich., had the largest jobless rate increase from a year
    earlier (+8.1 percentage points). The areas with the next largest
    rate increase were Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, Ore.-Wash., (+6.3
    percentage points), Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, N.C.-S.C. (+6.1
    points), and Las Vegas-Paradise, Nev. (+6.0 points). Four additional
    large areas recorded rate increases of 5.0 percentage points or more.

  98. Wbboei;

    from the bureau of labor statistics for July;

    For release: 10:00 A.M. (EDT)
    Media contact: (202) 691-5902 Wednesday, July 29, 2009

    Of the 49 metropolitan areas with a Census 2000 population of 1
    million or more,

    Detroit-Warren-Livonia, Mich., reported the highest
    unemployment rate in June, 17.1 percent.

  99. wbboei Says:
    August 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    I have been off the blog for a few days working on a related project, Frankly, I did not have the stomach for the Kennedy funeral orations. They buried the Pharohs with less pomp and ceremony than this man. What they say about him now is mostly fiction which they hope will keep his organization intact but that will be difficult.

    ———————

    WBBOEI: Agreed but you’d be surprised at the lengths these people with the help of their friends in the MSM will do to make their next move. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Kennedys try to appoint one of their own to replace Ted in the Senate. When it comes to their family, we’ve all learned that they are willing to disenfranchise voters and rig elections to get the results they want. The MSM and elites will push the belief that any Kennedy would be entitled to the seat to continue Ted’s legacy. It’s BS. The citizens of MA deserve nothing less than a fair election where they can decide who replaces Ted.

    ————————-
    If Obama moves to the middle he loses the left and if he stays on the left he loses the center.
    ————————-

    WBBOEI: I disagree with you on this point. Obama is already to the right of the middle. He’s losing the left (those who have taken off their kool-aid goggles). The Democrats who still believe in him are misinformed and rely mainly on MSNBC and DKos for the news. Obama has already proven himself to be to the right of Bill Clinton in the 90s and Hillary Clinton. I only see Obama moving to the right because he believes he has the Left cornered and they will have no choice but to vote for him in 2012. He will try to sell himself to moderates and conservatives. He has no convictions and it’s why he can’t be trusted on anything including health care reform.

  100. I do not see how this approach to government can possibly work. So many sub cabinet positions remain unfilled because of a rube goldberg review process, and yet we have all these Czars floating around who answer to no one but Obama who is not a detail man. Someone said he has had only one cabinet meeting since he took office. How you manage such a structure, I haven’t the foggiest idea. I have seen variants of this in the private sector and in each case they failed because the turf wars, infighting and attenuated decision making process preclude real time solutions to problems. I think it is unmanageable. This is perhaps one of the fundamental differences between campaigning and governing. As a friend is fond of saying he has never run so much as a hot dog stand and it sure shows.

  101. WBBOEI: I disagree with you on this point. Obama is already to the right of the middle. He’s losing the left (those who have taken off their kool-aid goggles). The Democrats who still believe in him are misinformed and rely mainly on MSNBC and DKos for the news. Obama has already proven himself to be to the right of Bill Clinton in the 90s and Hillary Clinton. I only see Obama moving to the right because he believes he has the Left cornered and they will have no choice but to vote for him in 2012. He will try to sell himself to moderates and conservatives. He has no convictions and it’s why he can’t be trusted on anything including health care reform.
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    I guess it depends on your perspective. To us he is to the right, but to the right he is a leftist. And the center is deeply suspicious of him now. He may get a momentary bump from playing shaman to Kennedy funeral, but the momentum is down down down. The schism on the left is a big problem for him and the center does not trust him. The analysis changes if the economy turns around sharply, but I do not see that happening.

  102. wbboei

    Welcome back.

    In organizations where I have attended staff meetings, sometimes every morning, which I found was I hated them, but it kept me focused and my feet to the fire.

  103. Just look at what MEschelle has worn to the funeral.

    The dress has a big ASS bow right across the breasts. And I’m alking about a BIG Ass bow. It looks like she has some kind of cords stuff wrapped around her waste as well.

    And they call her a fashionista. Geez.

    What happened to a nice black suit.

    That dress screams LOOK AT ME.

    Hillary looks very nice in somber black plain, her hair is growing out and she look so rested and well.

    Bill looks a bit sunburned LOL.

  104. If we are a divided country now, much of the blame must be laid at the feet of big media. Again, two factors:

    1. their bitter partisanship

    2 the 2 year long primary

  105. Dot, I saw that. LOL.

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    blue Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 9:41 am
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    I have to agree with most of what you said. Money is the root of the evil in our political system and it makes putting forth any meaningful reform almost impossible. The present health care reform debacle is a prime example, as well as how rigged our elections are. Campaign finance reform and term limits are sorely needed. These two things might help to decrease some of the corruption in our government. Perhaps, we might even get more qualified govermenment elected officials. IMHO.

  106. TheRealist Says:
    August 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
    Wbboei;

    from the bureau of labor statistics for July;

    Detroit-Warren-Livonia, Mich., reported the highest
    unemployment rate in June, 17.1 percent.
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    Thank you. I will ask him where he got his figure. Maybe he is adding in those who have given up looking. I suspect that is what he will say. But I took it as the published figure, and as you point out thats wrong.

  107. I want to thank you for writing to Senator Kennedy and assure you that you have been heard. The Senator values your comments and is doing what he can to uphold our country’s priorities and ideals.
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    That sounds pro forma to me. The standard response when a constituent contacts his office to complain about something. I suspect it is a left over script from the bush years.

    Do you read more into it?

  108. Wbboei,

    Those are for July, so it is possible, though not probable, that the numbers jumped 12 pts in one month, but in this volatile economy, especially in that area, you never know…not counting those who have given up looking is a convenient disgrace…

  109. Dot, did you notice that Caroline must like those same SWEATERS that ME-chelle likes minus those “show me the attention” bows MO is addicted to.

  110. MeShelle isn’t used to a civil ceremony. She is used to the screaming Wright sermons, you know those that goddamn America. She is a fish outta water. Bambi is thinking about his next vacation golf game most likely

  111. Interesting body language between the hug that Hillary and Mrs. Kennedy shared and the brief hug that meme and Mrs. Kennedy shared.

  112. wbboei – welcome back…I think all agree…we all missed you…

    wbboei says:

    It appears to me that a schism is developing within the progressive community between those who are true to progressive values, and those who are true only to Obama, i.e. dailykos and move on. org. Other progressives are noticing that these organizations who were opposed to war in the middle east when bush was president have grown strangely silent as Mr Obama expands the War in Afghanistan. It makes them wonder whether these two organizations are really progressive at all. And if they are not progressives, then what
    exactly are they?

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    and add codepink to that list…the essence of their being…the most important and VOCAL cause they espoused…and now they are all silent…what’s to wonder? that, along with O and his secret meetings with drug companies and the pay offs to the banks…and they all remain silent?? hillary or mccain would be attacked 24/7 (Sarah Palin is out of the picture and they still find time to attack her)…but for O, their President, they remain silent…

    what’s to wonder?? their silence speaks loudly and says it all…

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    JanH Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
    “I wonder what could have happened between Bill and Ted to make them hate each other so??”

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    Maybe the simple fact that Bill Clinton reached the highest post, that of Potus, and Teddy was always the runner-up, the wallflower, the jealous little bully.

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    Jan…Bill Clinton is a self made man…he had no family legacy or fortune to propel him to the top…Bill made all his accomplishments based on the energy and intellect that made him the man he is…

    Hillary, with the inate harder road to carve, sheerly because she IS a woman…is the same…a self made woman…who often stepped to the side, when she could have led, in deference to Bill…but when her time came, she showed all that SHE, Hillary Clinton, had the right stuff…she had the goods, she is the real deal…unfortunately TK seemed to believe that the time was not right for this woman and had already decided and set in motion the path he would take with O

    …the unforgiveable part was TK’s need to cast the Clintons aside and divide the party the way he did…his intent in combination with O and the collusion of the MSM to make Bill and Hillary Clinton part of the past…inconsequential…and a chapter to just ‘SKIP’…SKIP ahead of the Clintons – as if they were invisible – that disrespect within the Democratic party- seen once before by TK when he took on Carter – was part of TK, the political man…

    Hillary and Bill Clinton remain self made individuals who have earned their place in history…nothing was given to them…no roads were paved ahead…any perceived opportunities that Hillary might have had turned out to make her journey even more difficult…but she has perservered against all the odds…

  113. how fitting IMHO that it’s raining cats and dogs as they take him outside the church to the hearse. I reckon I’m going to hell.

  114. someone posted over at BP that Meschelle fell asleep during the service! woot! woot! I can’t wait to see the video and the photos.

  115. Hillary does look wonderful. The much-deserved time off has been great for her. BTW, I loved Ted Jr.’s euology.

  116. Hillary looks pretty and natural as well as Laura Bush, Roselyn, Jill…natural nice makeup…then there was ME-chelle with a full professional makeup…false eyelashes and all.

  117. Paula Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    Hillary does look wonderful. The much-deserved time off has been great for her. BTW, I loved Ted Jr.’s euology.

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    Ted Jr.’s eulogy was very impressive, strong, and loving.

  118. I can’t get over Me-chelle’s outfit. That dress looked like something one would wear at a wedding or a glitzy awards show. She has no class.

  119. wbboei at 10:59
    ==============
    I’ve no idea what to make of that letter, even now. I posted it as we now reflect upon his life at this time for a chance that someone else could make sense of it. My return address, which is not MA was plainly visible each time I wrote protesting Party influence upon the primary; June 2 2008 was just after the public learned of his illness, and just before the primary came to its tragic end. Both letterhead and envelope were old campaign stationery and appeared to be from different Senate campaigns of his. The postage was an ordinary first class stamp and it had a PO cancellation mark across it indicating that it was mailed in Washington DC. I recall being very excited to receive it and then, as you’ve already mentioned, realized that it was the standard fare.

  120. I guess it’s just another example of the media love affair with the Obamas, force-feeding them down our throats.

  121. Ted, Jr brought the tears…the most human part of the whole ceremony…and last night former Senator John Culver was one of the funniest stories I have heard…a real laugh out loud…

    dot48…at least she wore black and sleeves…she did have sleeves, right?

  122. S, of course ME-chelle’s outfit had sleeves…it’s summer. If it were winter she would have been sleevless.

  123. Southern Born Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
    S, of course ME-chelle’s outfit had sleeves…it’s summer. If it were winter she would have been sleevless.

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    silly me, what was I thinking??? so funny, southern born…

  124. That video is just another example of how kind and gracious our Hillary is AND what a snotty brat Bambi remains.

    Admin, I’m still wanting that countdown clock till his first term is up.

  125. That video brings back some bad feelings.

    Senator Clinton was trying to be gracious and BO acted like an a** as usual. I just don’t get what people see in him. Everything about him is so fake and measured.

  126. here is a better url for picture of that hideous outfit. No wonder bambi looked perturbed.

    http :/ / tinyurl.com/mcj82c

  127. wbboei said: It appears to me that a schism is developing within the progressive community between those who are true to progressive values, and those who are true only to Obama, i.e. dailykos and move on. org.

    =============

    I thought HuffPo was publishing some things that at least disagreed with Obama on some issues, and moveon was working on public option against Obama.

  128. I agree Ted Jr. gave the most moving eulogy, it brought tears to my eyes. I haven’t seen a Catholic funeral since I buried my mom 5 years ago. I could barely watch Avi Maria.

    I noticed two things one how Hillary is warmly accepted by everyone, GWB and numerous others. Secondly, I noticed how GWB barely could look at Obama. I wonder why the old man did not come.

    Obama looked many times like he was going to sleep and he had to read the “Lords prayer”, did not seem to know it thru memorization.

  129. Oh yes and one other thing Meanchelle did not like the incense, she was rubbing her nose when it was being administered. That part of the funeral is very important.

  130. Obama has to READ his comments or speeches or else he ends up saying something like “wee weed up”. The Lord’s Prayer was just part of his speech.

  131. I think we need to get back to the Michael Jackson funeral. No Bambi, no Bagpipes, no Bullshit. Shane, come back please, all is forgiven. How will we live without Ted? We must endeavor to persevere.

  132. Wbboei…no Bambi, no bagpipes, no bullshit. YES INDEED LOL

    Oh, yes, for the good ol’ days of the Jackson press coverage. I really did enjoy the music that week though.

  133. Did anyone see the look on meme’s face when Ted Jr. thanked the Presidents and included Secretary Clinton?

  134. Jan, I noticed that as well. Actually I didn’t see a “good” look on ME-chelle’s face until BO was reading his speech.

  135. Did anyone see the look on meme’s face when Ted Jr. thanked the Presidents and included Secretary Clinton?
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    God bless that young man.

  136. Michelle is like a very dry martini. Nine parts anger to one part Queen of The May. Its a tough act to carry out 24-7.

  137. Jan H, I did see that look, she looked heartbroken that the only wife that was mentioned was Secretary Clinton. Deer in the headlights look.

    Hillary looked so natural, her counterparts on the otherhand look stiff and uncomfortable, meanchelle, and Laura.

    I thought GWB looked like a fish out of water. I just wish I knew what was going on in that mind of his. Its apparent he doesn’t like Bambi. I imagine the line has been drawn in the sand with the CIA investigation. Cheney is having a cow.

    I saw Gore and wondered why he wasn’t up there as Biden was there, so why not AL??

  138. wbboei, she seemed to be glaring at Biden for awhile there. Seems like those 25 assistants she has would fill her in on how not to stare when out in public. She really needs some ettiquette training. They say Teresa Heinz Kerry would have been a very bad First Lady, but man o man look at Meanchelle. LOL!!

  139. JanH Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
    Southern Born,

    I muted bambi’s speech.

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    LOL! So did I. It was a good time to take a break.

  140. I don’t care what media says but I have to say I was totally offended that they pimped, no, actually i mean prostituted the young kennedy kid for health care at TK’s funeral, that was just crass beyond words. I did’nt even think they’d do that, I’m surprised Obama didnt make a telecommercial out of the whole eulogy.

  141. Yes, PRICELESS when Teddy Jr. acknowledged Secretary Clinton and NOT First Lady MO. Simply priceless. Know EVERYONE was stunned. So, Patrick tried to undo the damage when he ONLY acknowledged the Obamas. LOL. Also Like the way Vickie’s daughter Caroline was immediatly above CK in program as pallbearer. Meanwhile, Oprah’s BFF Maria, looks so botoxed-out. CA First Lady looks downright scary.

    How fitting, too, that final tribute was full organ, choir singing America the Beautiful. Analogy to me was, that in the end, there really is no separation of church and state. Not even for liberal lion Ted Kennedy.

    Did you hear CNN commentators bemoaning the fact the BHO didn’t hammer home the healthcare issue? ROFLMAO.

  142. call me cynical!!!!!! but this is the way my mind works with ANY of those BO supporters especially the effing Kennedy’s!!!!

    Mentioning Senator Clinton was/is a ruse to curry favor from Hillary supporters when these young upcoming Kennedys start campaigning and asking for her to campaign on their behalf!!!!!!! Shameless pimps…..that these what they are…maybe even Ted Jr.!!!!!!

  143. Also, Caroline Kennedy still has no Schlossberg after name, unlike Kathleen Kennedy Townsend. She was “posing” whenever camera on her, IMHO. Still political ambitions? Did anyone see any exchange between her and Clintons? Doubt it seriously.

    Notice anything unusual about crowd at Capitol? Gee, I know it’s summer (tourists), but still surprising at makeup of crowd in D.C.

    And…MORE America the Beautiful…..quite amazing from a party that is hell-bent on destroying the Union.

  144. Hey, GLoria Borger (dimwit)…it’s bacause he is the LAST Kennedy brother….that’s why they’re there. It has NOTHING to do with healthcare…give it up.

    Anderson Cooper talks about “cross-section of crowd”. Really? How about LACK OF cross-section.

    Roland Martin (corner dunce) pulls anything out of the air…just to hear himself talk. Full of it.

  145. I stopped watching CNN during the primary and have never looked back. C-Span was tolerable, because there was no commentary.

  146. I left Arlington this morning. I flew out of Baltimore. while waiting for my plane the tv was on. They were showing the Washington Redskins.

    No TK funeral. Nothing, nada. No one was talking about him at all.

  147. As Borowitz said, two Americas and a family in each one.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0809/Edwards_and_Axelrod_reunited.html?showall

    One of the striking scenes at last night’s memorial for Ted Kennedy was a quick reunion between John Edwards and his longtime political guru David Axelrod, who shared an embrace and chat in the lobby of the JFK Library.

    Edwards seemed to do most of the talking. Axelrod — who crafted Edwards’ “Two Americas” message in 2004 before becoming President Obama’s main political adviser for the ’08 election — seemed to be doing most of the consoling, patting Edwards’ back and smiling as the former senator and ’04 vice presidential candidate spoke expressively.

    UPDATE: A reader took issue with my assertion that Ax was behind “Two Americas,” citing press reports that ex-Edwards aide Christina Reynolds actually coined the term.

    Edwards, hounded by claims he fathered a child out of wedlock with a former campaign videographer, surprised reporters by striding into Friday night’s service with wife Elizabeth.

    After the service, I asked Edwards when, and why, he decided to come:

    “I didn’t have a plan,” he said, heading out into the rain. “I spoke to Vicki and Sen. Kennedy over the last several weeks and I talked to Vicki on Wednesday.”

    Elizabeth Edwards, who has waged a long battle with inoperable cancer, added: “I thought it was a lovely celebration, but as spectacular as this evening is it is impossible to capture the man, though. Our hearts are really with Vicki and their family. As much of a loss as it is for everybody else, I can’t even imagine what it must be like for them.”

  148. neetabug Says:
    August 29th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

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    I have to admit I’m surprised! But glad to hear that some people are tired of the glamorized funerals of the rich and famous. It’s unnecessary to make people at an airport watch a funeral before boarding their plane.

  149. So I may be wrong, but are Edwards, Daschle, and Richardson making comebacks thanks to bambi and his mentor?

  150. Dot48, I thought it was against protocol to have both POTUS and VP POTUS there too. Good grief if something would have happened we would have had Botox Nan for POTUS or was she their too??

    That was a good reason to have George I not there, he could at least instruct the idiots at the WH on what to do next. LOL!! I think he snubbed Bambi for the CIA, wasn’t George I head of the CIA at one time??

    Did you all say Caroline never spoke to Hillary??

  151. I wonder if Edwards had a gun to Elizabeths head.

    No way would i be seen with him.

    I think she misses the spotlight. Some women are like that.

  152. Yes, the End of an Era. Camelot is really MacBeth. Oh, another woman who was a fifth-grader (interviewed on Fox) when JFK assassinated. Poor lady, she drank the kool-aid and only knows the garbage she’s been fed and is ignorant to the likes of the educational blogs such as Hillaryis44. In this case though, ignorance isn’t even blissful for them any longer….what a shame…breaks my heart…

    Speaking of blogs, and the First Amendment, have you read about the bill that Rockefeller slipped in giving The One authority over the Internet “in the event of an emergency”? Could that also include threatened dismissal of healthcare proposal among other things? Just askin’…

  153. Curiosity .. you know what his chief of staff says “why waste and emergency”. An “emergency” will be what they deem it.

    I am very worried where they are trying to take us and what they are trying to do to us.

  154. confloyd:

    Thought the same thing about POTUS and VP there at same event. Also, Pelosi was also seated few rows back (Behind Hillary for once). Guess jets were scrambling over Boston today, since line-up within Basilica.

  155. Anyone else spot the irony of that Kennedy memorial being held at the church of “our lady of perpetual help”. I cringed when i saw that.

    Jesus, Teddy sure didnt give perpetual help about 4 years ago.

  156. I wonder if Bush I is ill? He wasn’t at the service, but the other living presidents were in attendance.

    Jeez, even Sargent Shriver was present, and he has Alzheimer’s disease.

  157. Patrick tried to undo the damage when he ONLY acknowledged the Obamas.
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    Is Patrick the one Ethel had in mind when she said the Kennedy dynasty is over? Me thinks so, maybe.

  158. Admin,

    Here’s praying that those of you “in-the-know” are able to punch a few holes into Big Media’s cracks at the fringe and leak the REAL facts behind “the fix” being in the works for years, orchestrated by the Lion himself. Millions of True Blue Dog Democrats, Progressives, being treated just like the Clintons – like the spurned wife (Joan)…..everybody knows they’ve been betrayed except the injured party…(hiccup)

    I say let the curtain close on Camelot’s final act….and in less time than Intermission, jerk the blinds open and let the remaining Indy’s, unhappy Dims, even Republicans (who haven’t already awakened from their hopium-induced stupor) see the old Kennedy-Chicago Combine of Papa Joe and Daley Machine. This revelation of historical significance could make the difference, driving the final nail in the coffin (sorry for the pun) in this flawed healthcare debacle.

    Shakesperian (tragedy) indeed.

  159. After watching smiggins here and there of The Funeral.

    Ted, the politician and Teddy, the Father, were two different people.

    Ted modeled his life after his father’s, Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.

    Joe Kennedy Sr. was the ruthless, bootlegging, ambitious Kennedy that would stop at nothing to get what he wanted. Like Ted, he had political aspirations of the presidency. His term as Ambassador to Britain and his political ambitions ended abruptly by FDR, during the Battle of Britain in November 1940, with the publishing of his controversial remarks suggesting that “Democracy is finished in England and here. (US).

  160. All dynasty’s die, I actually don’t think theres a strong kennedy out there that has the might and longevity of JFK, RFK and TK. The rest don’t seem to be able to weald power like those three did. Today marked the end of the major kennedy influence.

    Caroline Kennedy is officially a joke and well…. Patrick Kennedy, theres a walking scandal whatever he does. If that family goes anywhere, i hope it is from the Kathleen K. Townsend direction.

    The one question is and no one seems to have asked this weekend is who will fill that huge hole in the Dem senior ranks that Kennedy controlled for so many years, expect a power struggle like never seen. It aint going to be pretty.

  161. Another question in that Chicago – Kennedy combine is….that deal is over, it died with Ted. None of the other kennedy’s can weald the necessary influence on them.

    The chicago mob will run wild without check now. Kennedy may have been able to hold them in the senate when he was alive but what now?

    I bet TK never thought of that!

  162. moononpluto Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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    There is a Kennedy in Chicago, one of RFK’s sons. I believe his name is Christopher.

  163. moonpluto:

    Except those wannabe’s – Rhambo, the Jesse Jackson’s, BHO….when Chris Matthews called The One the “fourth Kennedy brother” all these manipulating monsters will continue to flatter the Kennedy’s, leading them around by the nose. The ONLY Kennedy’s worth their salt now are the three RFK children (including KKT and RFK Jr.) who supported HRC.

    Teddy may have been the “Lion”, but Rhambo is the “Beast”. Hard to believe he (Rhambo) was once loyal to the Clintons. He and Pelosi are running this country, unchecked. Botox and the Beast. D.C. has overtaken NYC influence, and Windy City trumping them all. The Mob didn’t start there for no reason.

  164. curiosityhasme, gee, that church today would have been a terrorists dream. I think it was insane for all those heads of govt. to be there at one time. I read that security was tight. Thankgoodness everybody was safe. I saw all those windows in the basillica and thought of Dallas. I am glad SS was on their toes today.

  165. What does Teddy jr. do? Is he in politics? He at least seem to have a personality. I don’t Vicki liked that comment out French women. She flinched about that. She is from Louisiana, maybe she has some French in her.

  166. birdgal, is it still going on? All egomaniacs want a grand funeral. This must of cost alot of money. Shame on the Democrats for spending this much money planting Teddy with all those starving people in Africa.

  167. confloyd, the motorcade just stopped at the capitol building for a short prayer service. Next stop, Arlington Cemetary, so this thing is almost over. C-span is great.

  168. Robert Byrd is my Senator. God Bless him and believe me he has been one FANTASTIC senator. Talk about constiutent services — he is great.

    I am crying for my poor old guy sitting there in his wheelchair. I remember him visiting my little shanty home back in 1970/71 or so. He came to our house and had coffee with my mom and dad. My dad was a die hard democrat and hauled voters every election. I remember when Jay Rockefeller went to the Senate that we were so excited that maybe someday one of our own would be President, but Rockefeller has been a huge disappointment.

    I do think it is time for Mr. Byrd to resign his position. That being said I continue to wonder what kind of send off he’ll get when he dies.

  169. She’s Lebanese, but from Crowley, LA -very much Ragin’ Cajun stronghold. No doubt her striking brunette features mistaken for Acadian French. Devout Catholic families, probably linked this family of Reggie’s to the culture of Louisiana. Father must have been politically connected in LA, land of Huey Long – right up there with Chicago politics.

  170. For me the Camelot dynasty ended when Bobby died. I used to wonder what could have been if he’d fulfilled his full potential. Instead the best Kennedy brother lost his life way too soon.

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    I read that President Bush Sr. was going to attend at first but when he found out his son would be going, he felt that the family would be well represented with just one of them there.

  171. Pelosi another wannabe – imagines herself as the heir to the Italian-American’s claim to the WH. Her father was Baltimore MD, as “Honey Fitz” was mayor of Boston. Dream on Nana…go west old woman…right to SF where you really belong.

  172. For me the Camelot dynasty ended when Bobby died. I used to wonder what could have been if he’d fulfilled his full potential. Instead the best Kennedy brother lost his life way too soon.
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    I agree the dynasty died when Bobby died. John was my favorite.

  173. Bobby was my fav. He went through a spiritual realignment after the deaths of his brother and MLK, I do believe that, and I believe he would have been the most wonderful President.

  174. I read that President Bush Sr. was going to attend at first but when he found out his son would be going, he felt that the family would be well represented with just one of them there.
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    That doesn’t really sound right. Something else must of been cooking

  175. That was a good reason to have George I not there, he could at least instruct the idiots at the WH on what to do next. LOL!! I think he snubbed Bambi for the CIA, wasn’t George I head of the CIA at one time??
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    i believe you are right confloyd

  176. Paula Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    I agree with the people here who wonder how Michelle ever got the reputation of being a fashionista.
    **********************

    It was made up to increase her like-ability. Fake data. I wore a big bow when I was 12. She is what, 48? She dresses very ghetto when left up to her own devices. You can take the girl out of the Ghetto but never the sister!

  177. That doesn’t really sound right. Something else must of been cooking

    …………………………………………………………………………..

    Maybe he just hated the old guys guts and has got to that age where he don’t give a damn.

  178. Gee, this funeral is taking a long time, I don’t think it took this long to bury JFK or Reagan and they were Presidents.

    That letter to the Pope, I found interesting, seems Teddy was worrying about his immortal soul at the end as most of us probably will.

    I wish I could of got a letter from the Pope for my Mom, she was a devout Catholic. So much excess in the lives of the Kennedy’s, it sure hasn’t help them out any.

    To those given much, much is expected, I think that is how it goes.

  179. I wonder how much this funeral costs? It was a funeral befitting a King. Its almost like he is trying to control things beyond the grave and he just couldn’t let go.

  180. They keep talking about his ” great friend” Obama….was O at the graveside funeral as I thought was was for friends and family. I watched a lot of this today more out of historical context as I was too young to appreciate JFK/RFK’s loss. I did not feel sorry or sad for TK in the least as he lived a life many can only dream of…it’s easy to be a “friend” to the poor when your raised with a silver spoon in your hand and given anything you want. Did I admire him at one time-yes-but for al lthe good he tried to do, in the end, he was more concerned with carrying on a dynasty that long since had become irrelevant to all but, apparently, Chris Mathews, Keith Olberman, and Gene Robinson…His concern for woman was so great that he back stabbed Hillary, and Bill, whom where there for him in his one tough election against Romney and then the loss of John Jr….So, I guess I am callus and cold, but to me , he effectively destroyed my ties to the democratic party and while I feel for his kids a, wife, and family, it is iof no real significance to me on his passing. By the way, no mention of Joan kennedy who had to deal with hoim all thoise “bad years”.

  181. Well, it might very well have been an excuse, but this is what I read….

    BOSTON, Aug. 28, 2009

    Elder Bush Sitting Out Kennedy Funeral
    Spokesman for 85-Year-Old Former President Says Younger Bush Will Represent Family

    Jim McGrath says the 85-year-old Mr. Bush feels his son’s presence would “amply and well represent” the family Saturday.

    The senior Bush’s staff is unsure of how the word got out that he’d be at the funeral because, in the words of a source, “that was never the case.” Asked if the senior Bush’s health is OK, the source said, “rest assured all is well,” reports CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer. Following their long tradition, George and Barbara Bush are spending the summer at Kennebunkport, Maine.

    Mr. Bush released a condolence statement on behalf of him and his son immediately after Kennedy’s death. It was part of a stream of fond remembrances issued by Republicans.

    The other remaining former presidents – Democrats Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton – will join the younger Mr. Bush at the service. President Obama will give the eulogy.

    cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/28/politics/main5271407.shtml

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    And honestly, Kennedy was a senator not a potus so why his funeral had to be so elaborate, I am not sure. I guess he will become a martyr after all.

  182. With all the pics posted all over internet. I have not seen (1) pic of Mr Obama talking to Mrs Obama. I did however see Barry smiling and speaking over the Church pews to Prez Clinton with MO staring straight ahead as if she was sitting alone somewhere else.

  183. Yes, I did she that video of her nodding off during the funeral. I hope it goes viral. Of coarse, she is used to alot more action during church services. Catholic services are somber and reverent unlike those of Rev. Wright.

  184. Probably not enough of “them Jews or whitey” to keep her interest. By the way, why do I like George Bush much more than Carter, Obama and Kennedy?

  185. Confloyd 6:38 “All egomaniacs want a grand funeral”

    In that case, lets hope and pray for Obama’s health to hold up. You know he’d have to have a grander funeral that even Ted and it would go on for probably a couple of weeks with all TV being hijacked and then where would we be!

  186. God we are so stupid, we should have had a betting pool going for today, for the number of times healthcare would be mentioned by CNN.

    all bets in to the nearest 1000.

  187. Byrd endorsed the fraud as well..not hard to believe as he was not very helpful to Bill during the impeachment hearings……..dude is old and should call it a day imo.

  188. Rangel in a whole heap of new shit, add mortgage fraud and tax dodging to the list.

    Charles Hurt of the New York Post reports today:

    Rep. Charles Rangel claimed on mortgage papers that a Harlem brownstone was his principal residence — even though he was living elsewhere at the time, The Post has learned.

    When the Democrat — who is under investigation by the House Ethics Committee — took out the mortgage in 1990, he said the property on West 132nd Street was his “principal residence,” records show.

    By our count, Rangel simultaneously claimed three “primary residences.” The first is where he really lives, in three rent-stabilized Harlem apartments, for which he does not qualify, based on his income. He actually had four, but gave one up in the wake of reports that he was using it as a campaign office, prompting NLPC to file a Complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging that he violated election law.

    This from another blog……

    Let me get this straight.

    We have one politician in office who (according to the Wall St Journal on 08/28/09)

    1.) Did not report income from a federal credit union account with a balance somewhere between $250,001 and maybe as high as $500,000, failed to pay $15,000 in taxes on vacant lots in New Jersey that he owns

    2.) Didn’t disclose the $1,001 to $15,000 in stock he owns in Yum Brands or his stake in PepsiCo, $15,001 to $50,000

    3.) Is under investigation regarding his use of four rent-stabilized apartments at a swank New York location

    4.) Illegally solicited donations with his official letterhead for a Public Service at Center named after him at City College of New York, which was itself built with a $1.9 million earmark and

    5.) Failed to report $75,000 in income from a rental villa at the beachfront Punta Cana Yacht Club, in the Dominican Republic.

    6.) “forgot” about 600K in money he left with a “friend”.

    In summary, he failed to report income for tax purposes due to these “little errors” which bring this politician’s net worth for 2007 to somewhere between $1.028 million and $2.495 million, while his previous statement came in at $516,015 and $1.316 million, nearly DOUBLING his annual income.

    THIS politician, instead of being disgraced, removed from office and in jail, IS INSTEAD THE HEAD OF THE COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES TAXATION POLICY.

  189. Rangel at least stood with Hillary pretty much to the end although his wife was an Obama supporter. I think like Richardson, Rangels problems will simply go away.

  190. jbs they better not, that is out and out tax evasion pure and simple. I don’t care who he supported, thats dirty dealing.

  191. jbstonesfan, I was thinking the same thing, why do I like GWB all of the sudden??

    You know those latte liberals always called Hillary and Bill republicans. The seating arrangement were quiet unusual today. They had all the left wingnuts on the first row, and the republicans on the second. Did anyone else notice that.

    I had heard the seating arrangements were to be that Bill and Hillary were to sit between the two Bush Presidents, but I guess Herbert decided he would skip the cannonization of Ted Kennedy.

    It appears the funeral was long enough to bestow sainthood on Teddy.

  192. Peter Schiff Leans Toward U.S. Senate Run
    Sun, Aug 23, 2009
    The Hartford Courant | By Daniela Altimari

    Peter Schiff turns on his computer and checks his fundraising numbers with the studied nonchalance other guys might display while perusing last night’s box scores.

    It’s a Friday in early August and Schiff’s fans have set off a “money bomb” — a 24-hour pledge blitz they hope will persuade him to run for the U.S. Senate seat held for almost 30 years by Christopher J. Dodd.

    Schiff, the Fairfield County stockbroker and author who has become YouTube’s most popular prognosticator of financial doom, says he will make up his mind by Labor Day. But spurred on by a cadre of young and zealous followers from around the nation, and a fundraising total that is closing in on $1 million, he is leaning toward a run.

    Unlike most politicians, including his hero, Ronald Reagan, he does not traffic in unbridled optimism: It’s twilight in Peter Schiff’s America, and, if painful and drastic changes aren’t made soon, he foresees an economic depression lasting at least a decade. The future, as envisioned by Schiff, will be marked by rampant inflation — a gallon of gas could cost $10 — food shortages and rolling blackouts, unless government sharply shrinks and the free market is allowed to flourish.

    The current crisis is “payback for a decade of reckless monetary policy,” Schiff says. “The recession is not the problem, the recession is the cure. It’s not fun, just like heroin withdrawal is not fun … but it’s necessary.”

    Schiff, who has never run for public office before — in fact, hasn’t even voted in years — says he’d run as a Republican, albeit one squarely within the GOP’s libertarian wing, which is led by renegade Texas congressman Ron Paul.

    “I’m not running as an academic exercise,” Schiff says. “I’m running to win … and if I can’t run as a Republican, I can’t win.”

    There are already three other Republicans gunning for Dodd, and a fourth, World Wrestling Entertainment CEO Linda E. McMahon, announced she’s considering a run as well. Moreover, it’s not clear how Schiff’s slick style, quirky family history (his 81-year-old father is in prison for refusing to pay income tax), and unorthodox views on the U.S. economy would mesh with Connecticut’s Republican establishment.

    “It’s an open party and it’s a free country,” says GOP State Chairman Chris Healy, who is maintaining a neutral stance. He doesn’t know much about Schiff, except for what he’s seen on TV, but adds, “He’s raised a lot of money so far and I think that’s impressive, so we’ll see what happens.”

    Schiff’s eat-your-spinach ethos may resonate with the Tea Party crowd and others who are suspicious of President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress. And Libertarians here and around the nation have already rallied to Schiff, who was Ron Paul’s economic adviser during Paul’s unsuccessful presidential bid. “I like that he talks straight,” says Rich Lion, head of the party in Connecticut. “He’s not a professional politician.”

    Gary Rose, who chairs the department of government and politics at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, doubts that’s enough to propel this insurgent into the exclusive club that is the U.S. Senate.

    “Schiff has some excellent points, and he can certainly articulate those points very clearly,” Rose says. But securing the Republican nomination in a state such as Connecticut will be a challenge for such a Libertarian. “He’s really on the margins of the Republican Party and, at this point, he’s without a doubt, a real long shot. … I’m not so sure the voters are ready for his message.”

    Still, Rose adds, a Schiff candidacy would be “entertaining.”

    Schiff makes his living as president of Euro Pacific Capital, a brokerage firm headquartered in Westport. But he made his reputation forecasting the current economic crisis.

    In 2006, before the housing market toppled and the economy sputtered to a halt, Schiff was on CNBC and Fox News, predicting the worst. He wrote a book, “Crash Proof: How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse,” in 2007. A video compilation of Schiff’s pronouncements on YouTube — dubbed “Peter Schiff Was Right” — has been viewed more than 1.4 million times.

    Not everyone agrees. Illinois investment adviser Mike “Mish” Shedlock questions some of Schiff’s views, notably his prediction that the U.S. economy would melt down while the rest of the world stayed strong. “He never has anything good to say about the U.S. dollar or the U.S. political system,” Shedlock says. “It’s almost as if the man hates the United States.”

    But despite writing a blog post titled “Peter Schiff Was Wrong,” Shedlock concedes that Schiff got some things right. “He certainly called the housing bubble correctly,” and supports his Senate candidacy. “I believe he has the right ideas about what we need to do to fix government,” Shedlock says.

    Lessons From His Father
    In person, Schiff is less bombastic, more analytical. He is 46, with a close crop of graying waves, a trim build and an air of supreme confidence. On this day, his Weston home is a hive of activity. His company is holding a meeting here later in the afternoon, and his 7-year-old son has just arrived. (Schiff and the boy’s mother are divorced, but she lives nearby and they share custody.)

    Schiff, the older of two boys, spent his early years in Connecticut, his father’s home state — his paternal grandfather was a carpenter who helped build the Yale Bowl. His parents divorced when he was 5 and, though Schiff lived with his mother in New York and Florida, he spent considerable time with his father.

    In fact, the father’s narrative is intertwined with the son’s. Irwin Schiff is a UConn graduate who sought the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination in 1996 and has been fighting U.S. tax laws since the 1970s. He has been convicted of income tax evasion and other tax crimes numerous times and is currently in a federal prison in Indiana.

    “His health is failing,” Peter Schiff says. The elder Schiff recently had to be hospitalized. “To be 81, sick and shackled to a hospital bed is not a pleasant experience.”

    Schiff learned a lot from his father about Austrian economics, the gold standard and the ins and outs of U.S. tax policy. “My dad didn’t lie about anything,” Schiff says. “He told the government he wasn’t paying his taxes and here’s why. … The worst you can say about my dad was that he was mistaken.”

    Unlike Irwin Schiff, Peter Schiff pays his taxes, though the son concedes the father will “probably be an issue in the campaign.”

    Schiff anticipates another criticism, too: that he’s “un-American,” because he invests his clients’ money in China and Saudi Arabia and because he wrote a book offering suggestions on how to profit from the coming economic collapse.

    “I’d rather be investing in America,” he says. “I’d rather have written a book titled ‘How to Profit from the Coming Economic Boom.’”

    And then there’s the matter of his non-voting record. Schiff says he was registered to vote in California but never bothered to register when he moved back to Connecticut in 2004. He wanted to vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primary last year but missed the deadline.

    In Schiff’s view, voting usually isn’t worth the bother. “Most candidates are so unappealing,” he says. And most of the time, he adds, there isn’t much difference between them.

    So why is he running?

    Good question. “It’s a huge pay cut,” Schiff concedes. “It screws up my life.” If he wins, he’d likely have to give up his securities licenses.

    He pauses. “The country’s in serious trouble. We’re not going to change anything by sending the same bureaucrats back to Washington.”

    **************

    By the way, they have removed the video of MoZilla falling asleep @ the Funeral.

  193. jbstonesfan Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    Byrd endorsed the fraud as well..not hard to believe as he was not very helpful to Bill during the impeachment hearings……..dude is old and should call it a day imo.
    ******************

    YES!… And he was actually very hostile about Bill and was one on the reasons the vote was so close. I will never forget it. He has to go . What the hell is wrong with people voting for someone like this

  194. Next up…trumped up scare over Swine Flue….DO NOT TAKE THIS VACCINE….go the Newsmax and check it out…..vaccine will slowly kill you. Period. Then, follow Glenn Beck’s reporting on the Czars. Going to go after First Amendment on air – internet. WAKE UP AMERICA!

    We are under siege – no joke.

  195. curiosityhasme, I have to work in healthcare and I am afraid, I only took the flu shot one year about 18 to 20 years ago, I was sicker that year than I ever had been, so now I don’t take it. I know the hospital will ask us to take it, so I am not sure what to do. All my kids work in healthcare too so I am worried about it.

  196. Gonzotex, speaking of downsizing govt., was the crowd in front of the Senate today only for Ted Kennedy? Someone say he has 500 staffers, could that be correct? Who pays these people?? Sorry for my ignorance, but I just never paid attention.
    Does one Senator really need that many staffers???
    They have the audacity to speak about the top heavy insurance companies when it takes that many people to handle one measley little senator!
    Its no wonder the republicans have been gripping for years. I wonder how in staffer Orin Hatch has? We need a comparison. How about Pooplosi???

  197. confloyd Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
    curiosityhasme, I have to work in healthcare and I am afraid, I only took the flu shot one year about 18 to 20 years ago, I was sicker that year than I ever had been, so now I don’t take it. I know the hospital will ask us to take it, so I am not sure what to do. All my kids work in healthcare too so I am worried about it.

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    I get a flu shot every year and they are much better than they were years ago. I don’t get sick from them, and if I do come down with the flu, often times it is less intensive and doesn’t last as long. Of course, they are only effective, if the vaccine contains the right strain. Years ago, I used to get sick from the flu shot, but not anymore.

    Now, why would they give a vaccine that will make people become ill? And why would they recommend that pregnant women receive the vaccine?

  198. from BP

    my feelings if only i could write so eloquently
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    // August 29, 2009 at 5:36 am

    Mark Steyn: Things only a Kennedy could get away with

    And by not calling his bluff on Chappaquiddick, Americans became complicit in it.

    By MARK STEYN

    We are enjoined not to speak ill of the dead. But, when an entire nation – or, at any rate, its “mainstream” media culture – declines to speak the truth about the dead, we are certainly entitled to speak ill of such false eulogists. In its coverage of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy’s passing, America’s TV networks are creepily reminiscent of those plays Sam Shepard used to write about some dysfunctional inbred hardscrabble Appalachian household where there’s a baby buried in the backyard but everyone agreed years ago never to mention it.

    In this case, the unmentionable corpse is Mary Jo Kopechne, 1940-1969. If you have to bring up the, ah, circumstances of that year of decease, keep it general, keep it vague. As Kennedy flack Ted Sorensen put it in Time magazine:

    “Both a plane crash in Massachusetts in 1964 and the ugly automobile accident on Chappaquiddick Island in 1969 almost cost him his life …”

    That’s the way to do it! An “accident,” “ugly” in some unspecified way, just happened to happen – and only to him, nobody else. Ted’s the star, and there’s no room to namecheck the bit players. What befell him was … a thing, a place. As Joan Vennochi wrote in The Boston Globe:

    “Like all figures in history – and like those in the Bible, for that matter – Kennedy came with flaws. Moses had a temper. Peter betrayed Jesus. Kennedy had Chappaquiddick, a moment of tremendous moral collapse.”

    Actually, Peter denied Jesus, rather than “betrayed” him, but close enough for Catholic-lite Massachusetts. And if Moses having a temper never led him to leave some gal at the bottom of the Red Sea, well, let’s face it, he doesn’t have Ted’s tremendous legislative legacy, does he? Perhaps it’s kinder simply to airbrush out of the record the name of the unfortunate complicating factor on the receiving end of that moment of “tremendous moral collapse.” When Kennedy cheerleaders do get around to mentioning her, it’s usually to add insult to fatal injury. As Teddy’s biographer Adam Clymer wrote, Edward Kennedy’s “achievements as a senator have towered over his time, changing the lives of far more Americans than remember the name Mary Jo Kopechne.”

    You can’t make an omelet without breaking chicks, right? I don’t know how many lives the senator changed – he certainly changed Mary Jo’s – but you’re struck less by the precise arithmetic than by the basic equation: How many changed lives justify leaving a human being struggling for breath for up to five hours pressed up against the window in a small, shrinking air pocket in Teddy’s Oldsmobile? If the senator had managed to change the lives of even more Americans, would it have been OK to leave a couple more broads down there? Hey, why not? At the Huffington Post, Melissa Lafsky mused on what Mary Jo “would have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history … Who knows – maybe she’d feel it was worth it.” What true-believing liberal lass wouldn’t be honored to be dispatched by that death panel?

    We are all flawed, and most of us are weak, and in hellish moments, at a split-second’s notice, confronting the choice that will define us ever after, many of us will fail the test. Perhaps Mary Jo could have been saved; perhaps she would have died anyway. What is true is that Edward Kennedy made her death a certainty. When a man (if you’ll forgive the expression) confronts the truth of what he has done, what does honor require? Six years before Chappaquiddick, in the wake of Britain’s comparatively very minor “Profumo scandal,” the eponymous John Profumo, Her Majesty’s Secretary of State for War, resigned from the House of Commons and the Queen’s Privy Council and disappeared amid the tenements of the East End to do good works washing dishes and helping with children’s playgroups, in anonymity, for the last 40 years of his life. With the exception of one newspaper article to mark the centenary of his charitable mission, he never uttered another word in public again.

    Ted Kennedy went a different route. He got kitted out with a neck brace and went on TV and announced the invention of the “Kennedy curse,” a concept that yoked him to his murdered brothers as a fellow victim – and not, as Mary Jo perhaps realized in those final hours, the perpetrator. He dared us to call his bluff, and, when we didn’t, he made all of us complicit in what he’d done. We are all prey to human frailty, but few of us get to inflict ours on an entire nation.

    His defenders would argue that he redeemed himself with his “progressive” agenda, up to and including health care “reform.” It was an odd kind of “redemption”: In a cooing paean to the senator on a cringe-makingly obsequious edition of NPR’s “Diane Rehm Show,” Edward Klein of Newsweek fondly recalled that one of Ted’s “favorite topics of humor was, indeed, Chappaquiddick itself. He would ask people, ‘Have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?’”

    Terrific! Who was that lady I saw you with last night?

    Beats me!

    Why did the Last Lion cross the road?

    To sleep it off!

    What do you call 200 Kennedy sycophants at the bottom of a Chappaquiddick pond? A great start, but bad news for NPR guest-bookers! “He was a guy’s guy,” chortled Edward Klein. Which is one way of putting it.

    When a man is capable of what Ted Kennedy did that night in 1969 and in the weeks afterward, what else is he capable of? An NPR listener said the senator’s passing marked “the end of civility in the U.S. Congress.” Yes, indeed. Who among us does not mourn the lost “civility” of the 1987 Supreme Court hearings? Considering the nomination of Judge Bork, Ted Kennedy rose on the Senate floor and announced that “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit down at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution.”

    Whoa! “Liberals” (in the debased contemporary American sense of the term) would have reason to find Borkian jurisprudence uncongenial but to suggest the judge and former solicitor-general favored resegregation of lunch counters is a slander not merely vile but so preposterous that, like his explanation for Chappaquiddick, only a Kennedy could get away with it. If you had to identify a single speech that marked “the end of civility” in American politics, that’s a shoo-in.

    If a towering giant cares so much about humanity in general, why get hung up on his carelessness with humans in particular? For Kennedy’s comrades, the cost was worth it. For the rest of us, it was a high price to pay. And, for Ted himself, who knows? He buried three brothers, and as many nephews, and, as the years took their toll, it looked sometimes as if the only Kennedy son to grow old had had to grow old for all of them. Did he truly believe, as surely as Melissa Lafsky and Co. do, that his indispensability to the republic trumped all else? That Camelot – that “fleeting wisp of glory,” that “one brief shining moment” – must run forever, even if “How To Handle A Woman” gets dropped from the score. The senator’s actions in the hours and days after emerging from that pond tell us something ugly about Kennedy the man. That he got away with it tells us something ugly about American public life.

  199. I’ve taken the flu shot every year for the last 10 years. The only effect for me is a sore arm after, which Advil takes care of.

    Knock on wood, I haven’t had the flu once since I started on the shots.

  200. “And by not calling his bluff on Chappaquiddick, Americans became complicit in it.”

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    So by rights then, Americans who voted for bambi are also complicit with his lies, terrorist friends, Reverend Wright, etc…

  201. Probably not enough of “them Jews or whitey” to keep her interest. By the way, why do I like George Bush much more than Carter, Obama and Kennedy—————

    Yep I am liking GWB more than the above mentioned….and I pray for the health of Bush I. We do not need a presidential funeral while that BO is in office……ettiquette will reuire him to asked to give a speech…..

    And I have always thought that Laura Bush is very charming and graceful…even while GWB was in office…

  202. Swine Flu Vaccine contains squalene among other DEADLY & DEBILITATING substances. This is NOT to keep you healthy, it is to slowly kill you. Really.

  203. curiosityhasme Says:

    August 29th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

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    I’m not disputing what you are saying, but do you have any links, substantiated research that I could look at?

    Thanks very much.

  204. I saw a pic of Sen. Byrd, he looked really bad and seem to be taking the passing of Teddy real hard. I felt sorry for him and of coarse the family of Sen. Kennedy. Patrick Kennedy seemed to be the most upset.

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