Woodstock Nation: Barack Obama’s Situation Comedy, Part III

As the Nutroots and the Barack Obama Thugs (hereinafter B.O.T.s) gather to admire themselves we’ll celebrate the 40th anniversary of Woodstock – the music and art fair of counterculture America.

The historic Woodstock Music and Art Fair was held at Max Yasgur’s dairy farm in Bethel, New York from August 15 to August 18, 1969.



Woodstock begat the “Woodstock Nation”.

This all has relevance to our discussion of Barack Obama and the current political situation which we will brilliantly tie up all together in our next installment in this series.

Today however, we’ll celebrate the music, and ask the question: Where’s Woodstock Nation today?

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Some of the answers to the above question will be found in Barack Obama’s Situation Comedy and in
Barack Obama’s Situation Comedy, Part II

For now, keep in mind these quotes from Part I of the Situation Comedy:

Paid Obama shill David Axelrod and unpaid Obama shill Donna Brazile have a vision of the Democratic Party.

The Obama/Axelrod/Brazile vision for the Democratic Party mimics the desired demographics for a television sitcom.

As the long suffering Donna declared A new Democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don’t have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics.

Axelrod has declared The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years. This is not new that Democratic candidates don’t rely solely on those votes.

Keep those quotes in mind as we search for Woodstock Nation.



Undoubtedly some burnouts and genuinely good citizens of Woodstock Nation are now part of the Hopium addled Nutroots. But not all.

To borrow from John Lennon (from the “Paul is dead” era), “here’s another clue for you all“: the young become old, the old do not become young. And for Obama and his B.O.T.s and Hopium addled fanboys the old are a herd to be herded:

Here in Iowa, the Organizing for America effort resembles the earliest days of a presidential campaign, a shoestring operation where homemade signs hang from the walls and only the most diehard of supporters attend events. Many of the young campaign aides who became familiar faces in towns across Iowa are now working in Washington, so a new crop of workers has taken over to help direct older volunteers.

The young campaign aides of 2008 are now replaced with new young campaign aides to herd the old, former Woodstock Nation citizens. The grayer citizens of Woodstock Nation will be herded by the new, new young, of Nutroot Nation.



Is there any wonder why Obama has a Woodstock Nation problem?; and a Bobby Soxers problem?

The Soylent Green crowd is not going quietly. Woodstock nation has a problem with Nutroots Nation:

Democrats have a senior citizen problem.

Frustrated older Americans are packing the town halls on health care. They are incredibly passionate about their Medicare benefits. Polls show senior citizens largely disapprove of health care reform ideas so far.

And of course, they vote — in larger numbers than any other demographic.

As the young become older, then old, they tend to vote more and more. Woodstock Nation has more citizens than Nutroots Nation who vote regularly and with attention to the issues.

But so far, Democrats have focused much of their health care sales pitch on middle-class Americans and the uninsured — a slight that has been noticed by senior citizens, who hold great influence with members of Congress. [snip]

But Obama is talking about finding hundreds of billions in savings from Medicare — cuts supporters say will trim fat from the program — including slashing $156 billion in subsidies to Medicare Advantage, a privately administered Medicare program.

Seniors are one of the most attentive and engaged constituencies, especially on health care issues, and we’ve seen that in the Medicare Advantage programs,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans.

Woodstock Nation and the Bobby Soxers are not Obama fans. Woodstock Nation and Bobby Soxers vote.

A July 31 Gallup Poll found that just 20 percent of Americans aged 65 and older believe health care reform would improve their own situation, noticeably lower than the 27 percent of 18- to 49-year olds and 26 percent of 50-to-64-year-olds who say the same.

The senior citizen problem could pose a serious problem for the 2010 election cycle.

Older Americans turn out in much higher numbers than other age groups during midterm elections. In 2006, the 55-and-older age group still had the highest voting rate of any age group, at 63 percent, even though younger voters turned out in record numbers for a midterm, according to census data. Half of all votes cast in the 2006 midterms were from voters age 50 or older, according to AARP. And one out of four were AARP members.

But voting statistics tell only part of the story. Look at the faces at these chaotic congressional town hall events across the country. They are the faces of older Americans who paid into Medicare most of their working lives and are now enjoying the health care benefits they believe they’ve earned for their senior years.

Citizens of Woodstock Nation and near citizens of Woodstock Nation along with the earlier Bobby Soxers have experience to guide them. The situation comedy demographics of Brazile and Axelrod do not align with citizens of the former Woodstock Nation.

Obama’s problem with senior citizens isn’t new. Polls showed that John McCain bested Obama among seniors, even though Obama made gains across almost every other demographic.

Some experts say the real problem is that Democrats haven’t done enough to address seniors’ concerns to date, allowing the perception to grow that seniors will lose under reform. [snip]

Critics say the proposed $380 billion Medicare cuts in the House bill — including cuts to the privately administered Medicare Advantage program — will lead to long waits for care, doctors dropping patients and doctors deciding if their older patients “are worth the cost,” as one TV and Web ad from the 60 Plus Association warned.

Why would you want to cannibalize Medicare in order to create a new plan? Why wouldn’t we fix Medicare first? I think those are the concerns that are being raised,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said during a conference call Tuesday.

Woodstock Nation and the Bobby Soxers are not dancing to Obama’s off-key tunes. It’s shocking that the bamboozling insurance industry has more credibility than Obama when it comes to Woodstock Nation.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, a trade group for insurers, contends that slashing $156 billion from private Medicare Advantage plans would have a significant impact on seniors.

“Seniors have been told that their coverage is not going to change and if they like their coverage, they can keep it,” Zirkelbach said. “The fact of the matter is that if these cuts to Medicare Advantage go through, seniors are going to face increased premiums, reduced benefits and, in some parts of the country, they’re going to lose access to their Medicare Advantage plan all together.”

Woodstock Nation wants legal medication now. Woodstock Nation does not want to feel the purple haze of Hopium.



[Stay tuned for our thrilling Part IV installment wherein we tie it all together.]

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144 thoughts on “Woodstock Nation: Barack Obama’s Situation Comedy, Part III

  1. In this state, the rates, like in all states, are set by the State. Our state has set a rural rate for all of NM, meaning Albuquerque doctors are reimbursed at a lower rate than a city would be. Many doctors, when you call, now asked, are you over 55. If you are, they tell you they do not treat patients over 55, code words for people on medicare.

    With this cut, I am absolutely confident this will get worse in this state.

  2. HillaryforTexas Says:
    August 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    turndownobama @ 1:05 There is no way in hell that a machine is ever going to “read” your MRI or Cat Scan all by itself. [….]
    The technology being developed is intended as an AID to radiologists in isolating pixel anomalies, so that they can do a better job of interpreting the scan, and not miss things. You will still need a human.

    ======================

    My source (sorry I don’t have the cite) had matched computer analysis of a set of images against human analysis and the computer had done better. Of course they must have had human judges and other evidence.

    Sorry I oversimplified. Krauthammer’s point was that eg a $500 test for a large number of people to save $10,000 for a few would not be cost effective. My point is that given wide demand CHEAPER tests will become available. Even if the cheaper tests are not quite as good as the now-$500 test, the cheaper ones can SCREEN people and find a few people who should go on to the expen;sive test.

    distinctions.depaul.edu/Pages/CT%20scans.aspx

  3. I was at Woodstock…for one day. I was one of the morons who bought a ticket. We had to leave after a day because we ran out of food…after sharing with others…because there was no food or water. We were afraid that we would not be able to get out and get home by Monday and were afraid we would lose our summer jobs.

    JanH…in case you didn’t see this…

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/tobin/76052

    “No Second Thoughts” on Robinson May Give Obama License for Future Mischief

    Jonathan S. Tobin – 08.13.2009

    &n bsp; The New York Times noted today that the “White House said Mr. Obama had no second thoughts” about honoring Mary Robinson with the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Indeed, the ceremony bestowing on the former Irish president the nation’s highest civilian award went off without a hitch and nary a discouraging word as Robinson and 15 other recipients received their medals amid a blizzard of presidential praise.

    Obama lauded Robinson, the woman who presided over the United Nation’s anti-Semitic hatefest at the 2001 Durban Conference on racism, as “an advocate for the hungry and the hunted, the forgotten and the ignored,” and neglected the widespread criticism of the honoree from a wide range of Jewish groups as well as from some members of Congress. Robinson is a longtime foe of the Jewish state and even today holds the post of honorary president of Oxfam, an NGO that gained publicity last week for firing actress Kirstin Davis of Sex and the City20fame from her position as their spokeswoman because she also represents Ahava, whose Dead Sea cosmetics are considered off-limits by Israel-haters.

    Though the dustup over Robinson cast something of a shadow on an event that is almost always noncontroversial (because presidential vetting teams generally eliminate questionable candidates), the dispute did not generate a great deal of publicity. Even Obama’s most virulent critics on the Right were too preoccupied with the debate on health-care reform for Robinson’s award to register much of an impact on the nation’s Richter scale. That’s understandable given the stakes involved in the administration’s push to expand government’s control of the health-care sector.

    But friends of Israel, especially those Jewish Democrats who have been doing their best to ignore the White House’s increasingly belligerent tone toward the Jewish state, would do well to note what happened this week. Obama honored one of the most virulent enemies of Israel—someone who bears a great deal of responsibility for Durban, one of the most disgraceful episodes in the history of an institution—the UN—which is no stranger to disgrace. He has gotten away with it with hardly a scratch on his reputation. Though some will dismiss this incident as a mere blunder that will soon be forgotten, I doubt that Obama and his advisers will forget how easily they were able to dismiss a nearly universal Jewish dismay.

    The president and his foreign-policy team are preparing what we are told is a new Middle East peace plan and a peace conference that will attempt again to bludgeon Israel into making concessions to Palestinians that are uninterested in peace. The administration is also still committed to “engagement” with Iran’s despotic Islamist regime and continues to appear uninterested in any serious effort to stop Tehran from gaining nuclear capability.

    If anyone thinks the administration can be deterred from taking future stances that are clearly invidious to the security of Israel, the Robinson episode may well have taught Obama that he can get away with anything when it comes to Jewish Democrats. There were some who may have thought Robinson’s award would prove to be Obama’s Bitburg moment—a symbolic episode that forever tarnished Ronald Reagan’s reputation even among his most ardent Jewish supporters. Instead, it may turn out to be a trial run for far worse outrages yet to come.

    Jonathan=2 0S. Tobin is executive editor of Commentary magazine. He can be reached via e-mail at: jtobin@commentarymagazine.com.

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  4. admin:

    “The Obama/Axelrod/Brazile vision for the Democratic Party mimics the desired demographics for a television sitcom.

    Terrific analogy! We could chuckle if the stakes weren’t so high!

    As the long suffering Donna declared A new Democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don’t have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics.

    As we are all too aware, the generation Brazille speaks of is a generation that lacks a fundamental principal of the Boomer Generation….COMMITMENT! Some of us may not have been of age as active participants to the movement but we sure did watch, albeit from the sidelines, our brothers and sisters unfold a new generation of creative thought and unrivaled music innovation that has never been eclipsed by any subsequent generation to this day.

    Just as Obama has demonstrated so many times before. When people become useless to his cause they find themselves under the bus. So too will his generation and the generations of the 20s and 30 yr olds toss him under the bus, when they come to grips with the reality; the man they voted for is ‘not all that’…… Hopefully with not too much anger when they figure out they’ve been duped by President Bamboozler.

    Axelrod has declared The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years. This is not new that Democratic candidates don’t rely solely on those votes. “

    Axelrod fails to understand the white working class are not chattel. His rationale belies the fact our Parents generation is the generation he speaks of….. NOT the Boomers, who were the premiere generation “committed” to CHANGE.

    Axelrod has chipped away at a square peg, in a slight of hand technique, attesting to the fit of an ill fitting roundish peg equal to the sum total of a round peg in a round hole.

    Bullocks to the windsock. He’s not in Chicago anymore! Some of us are euphemistically speaking, a day early and a dollar ahead, when it comes to translating another Chicago Bamboozler into straight talk….

  5. Medicare for All is a boondoggle that waste taxpayer money by subsidizing corporate profits. It hasn’t helped anyone. But, I agree, they should have started with strengthening Medicare, not talking “cuts” and “entitlement reform” and then worked to expand it.

  6. All they will need are the Latinos. There are more of them than anyone else. We basically gave away control of our country to people who entered illegally. Obama and the dem party will give them education, social security, healthcare….the whole store and the middle class will pay for it.

  7. Oops, I went Medicare Advantage NOT Medicare for All. hehehe. That’s the problem with giving a private, for-profit business model the name Medicare.

  8. Oh Lawd, “illegal” immigration again…Who cares? For feck sake, 80% of us earn only 13% of the national income. You are picking the wrong enemy. The facists must just love to watch this. The wealthy have us fighting ourselves as we all continue to get screwed over endlessly by them. Don’t worry, Carol, there has been a sharp decrease in illegal immigration…since we stopped having any jobs. What fools we are.

  9. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/14/murtha-differs-from-obama-on-health-care-timeline/

    A bill to overhaul the nation’s ailing health-care system may not pass until January or later, Democratic Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania said Friday.

    His comment to CNN affiliate WJPA differed from President Barack Obama’s repeated insistence that Congress will pass a health care bill by the end of 2009.

    Speaking in Bentleyville, Pennsylvania, Murtha said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wanted a health-care bill passed before the current August recess.

    “She said we’re going to have it before we left,” Murtha said. “We said, ‘No, no, we want some time to think about this.’ We’re taking some time to make sure it’s done right. I don’t know that we’ll get something done before January, and even then we may not get it done. We’re going to do it right when it’s finally done.”

    There are deep divides between Democrats and Republicans over the health-care issue, and Murtha said more time is needed to come up with a solution that works.

    “We said to the speaker, the leadership, let’s not rush this thing,” he said. “Let’s do it right, so we’ll have a uniquely American plan, if the thing passes.”

    Some town hall meetings on health care have erupted in emotional and angry debate, and Murtha said such a response is natural in uncertain times such as the current economic recession.

    “I understand why they’re against it — they’re worried it’s going to harm their health care,” he said. “But we’re going to work it out.”

  10. August 16, 2009

    Obama catches cold as economic virus spreads

    The uproar over healthcare reforms is a symptom of how Americans, battered by the recession, are falling out of love with the new president
    Tony Allen-Mills Arriving in Montana to join battle with his critics on Friday, President Barack Obama stepped from Air Force One, stripped off his jacket and rolled up his sleeves. Little more than six months after he swept into office with some of the highest approval ratings recorded, he is fighting to save his historic presidency from turning into a one-term wonder.

    Obama was ready for a vigorous defence of the healthcare reforms that have spawned verbal fisticuffs at public meetings across the country. In the event, the Montana meeting unfolded with a subdued politeness that left some White House aides wishing it had been a little more feisty, so their champion could have shown off his sparring skills.

    Yet for all the heat that has recently been generated by the healthcare debate, amid wild accusations about euthanising granny and manipulating mobs, it became clear last week that medicine is far from the president’s only problem, and there may be no early cure for the economic ills that are crippling his promises of change and hope.

    Speaking in an aircraft hangar moments after a hailstorm had passed over Bel-grade, Montana, the 48-year-old president attempted to calm the confrontational climate that has soured debate about his attempts to overhaul an expensive and inefficient US healthcare establishment. Sticking to time-honoured presidential tradition, he blamed the media for getting his message wrong, and for focusing on a minority of angry protesters. “TV loves a ruckus,” he added. “What you haven’t seen on TV . . . are the many constructive meetings going on all over the country.”

    Yet in one sense that ruckus has spared the White House closer scrutiny of a stuttering economy that may yet prove Obama’s ruin. Recent optimism that the worst of the recession may be over has failed to make an impact on key areas of American life, and Obama last week endured one of the toughest weeks of his presidency in terms of bad economic news.

    “The rapid deterioration of the economy has slowed down,” said Alice Rivlin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office. “But if you have lost your job, the worst may not be over for a long time. If you have a job, you may still lose it.”

    The main problem for the president is that economic data suggesting improvements in growth and productivity are not yet translating into benefits for victims of recession. Mark Vitner, an economist at Wells Fargo bank, last week summed up future prospects as “a recovery only a statistician can love”. Obama insisted earlier this month that “actions we’ve taken in the first six months have helped stop our economic freefall . . . we’re losing jobs at half the rate we were at the beginning of the year”.
    That boast was promptly undermined when a barrage of negative reports was released last week, showing that personal bankruptcies surged 34% in June compared with last year; the number of homes subjected to foreclosure proceedings rose 32% as against a year ago; the number of people out of work for 27 weeks or longer reached a record 5m; and retail sales dipped in July despite a big boost from a popular secondhand car trade-in programme.

    Nor are the short-term prospects encouraging. More than 15m home owners – a third of the US total – are still estimated to have mortgages “underwater”, meaning that they owe their banks more than their homes are worth. Another report indicated that a foreclosure prevention programme, introduced by Obama as part of his economic stimulus package, had helped only 10% of eligible home owners.

    The continuing misery has made it hard for the White House to claim much credit for the modest gains recorded – not least because the prime beneficiaries of the fledgling recovery appear to have been the Wall Street bankers whose lust for quick profits started the crisis. The return of multi-million-dollar bonuses is certain to stoke popular outrage that injections of taxpayer money have served mainly to prop up a discredited system based on greed and excess.
    Despite these concerns, few doubt that Obama would benefit dramatically from a sudden economic turnaround. Andrew Kohut, a pollster with the Pew Research Centre, noted that a sharp fall in the president’s approval ratings, which according to some polls have slipped below 50% for the first time, has not been matched by a loss of confidence in the future. “People still think that he’s going to fix the economy,” Kohut said.

    Yet even Democratic officials admit that the climate has changed. The near-universal pride that Obama inspired as the first black man to be elected president has inevitably been dulled by hardship and conflict.

    Awe has given way to anger, and admiring “Obamacan” T-shirt slogans are increasingly giving way to a new form of presidential merchandise best summed up as “Obamacan’t”. One popular online retailer estimated last week that of 3m Obama-related items about 1m are now “antiObama”. One popular bumper sticker reads: “Don’t blame me – I voted for McCain.”

    “Back in April, when the [economic] stimulus [programme] had passed, there was this great sense of hope and, you know, he was a magic man, right?” said Richard Goodstein, a party strategist. “Reality has set in by now.”

    Obama now faces a potentially damaging credibility gap between the White House emphasis on hope and recovery and the experience of ordinary Americans. The dangers were evident last week when Christina Rohmer, chairwom-an of the president’s council of economic advisers, declared that the president’s stimulus package had saved “about 485,000 jobs” since February. The next day, a government report disclosed that 247,000 more Americans had lost their jobs in July. When economists talk of a recession ending, noted Lawrence Mishel of the Economic Policy Institute, they can be “at total variance” with the public experience.

    All this may help explain why the healthcare debate has become so vicious and sporadically violent. Confusing messages from the White House about what exactly the reforms will mean, and how they will be paid for, have presented the Republican opposition with its first real opportunity to rally around a popular cause.

    Somehow, over the past few weeks, Obama’s advisers have allowed his promise of “change we can believe in” to turn into a mud-slinging free-for-all about so-called “death panels” that will supposedly decide whether granny and other ageing Americans will be allowed hospital care or left to die untreated.

    “The Obama White House has done the near impossible,” said Peggy Noonan, a former Republican speech-writer and conservative columnist. “It has united the Republican party – social conservatives, economic conservatives, libertarians, t h e y a r e a l l a g a i n s t t h e healthcare schemes as presented so far.” Even some of the president’s staunchest admirers have been bewildered by his messy handling of the issue. Camille Paglia, a prominent feminist academic, said she continued to support Obama because he represented the US “with dignity and authority abroad . . . having said that, I must confess my dismay bordering on horror at the amateurism of the White House apparatus for domestic policy”. Denouncing the “grotesque mishandling” of healthcare reform, Paglia added: “Who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises?”

    The wispy slickness of Obama’s ideas was on ample display in Montana on Friday, when he insisted to one questioner that “I don’t want government bureaucrats meddling in your healthcare” – which is exactly what his reforms imply. Nor could the president give a convincing answer to the obvious question of how the reforms will be paid for at a time of economic retrenchment.

    “The only way you are going to get that money is to raise our taxes,” he was told by one audience member.

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6797780.ece

  11. JanH
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    Camille Paglia, a prominent feminist academic, said she continued to support Obama because he represented the US “with dignity and authority abroad . .

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    I really cannot understand this person. What Dignity, and what Authority are you talking about. His meeting have been vacations, and he welded little power, or got nothing difficult in the negotiations. I really don’t see how you came to that impression. He has bumbled some key international steps, gifts, in Russian they practically snubbed him. Please what TV and Papers are you reading. Oh, that is right, main stream media, WHERE THE NEWS ISN’T.

    You need to start bloggin lady, so you can see what is really going on.

  12. NMF,

    It’s beyond me how these love slaves of obama can be disgusted with his policies but still think he walks on water.

    Absolutely senseless drivel from them.

  13. From JanH 4:44, timesonline … a snip: “TV loves a ruckus,” he added. “What you haven’t seen on TV . . . are the many constructive meetings going on all over the country.”
    ============
    Another hoof and mouth disease moment for the President Obama, a moment well beyond the Candidate Obama who promised that Americans could watch the legislation being constructed on CSPAN.

  14. Paglia is the most self hating feminist I have ever read…and if you happen to be a strong feminist, like Hillary, you don’t receive her support. Similar to the other so called feminist fraud Hff-N-Puff , who is about as feminine as ……..well, you get the picture/

  15. bambi’s town halls are full of bussed in dims, bots, acorn, union maggots. I don’t call that constructive at all. I call it staged and a waste of time.

    His bullies are back in droves.

  16. mj Says:

    August 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    Politics is economics, Carol. You might want to reassess your enemy.

    Illegal immigration is a big econmic factor in my community. I will not take the time to go thru the ways it is having a very negative economic impact here. My point was that the huge amnesty given in the past and the amnesty the democrats are intent on giving soon definitely change the political landscape. They will be our largest voting bloc.

  17. Carol Says:
    August 15th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    All they will need are the Latinos.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It seems to be the direction Obama is going. Sotomayer, Chita Rivera, Medal of Freedom… Congress will create legislation allowing the illegals to vote for him. He’ll be busing/flying-in illegals, this time from Mexico and Africa. ( repelling any opposition by the sheer numbers of illegals supporting him) Unions, college students, AAs X 2.

  18. # Carol Says:
    August 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    mj Says:

    August 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    Politics is economics, Carol. You might want to reassess your enemy.

    Illegal immigration is a big economic factor in my community. I will not take the time to go thru the ways it is having a very negative economic impact here. My point was that the huge amnesty given in the past and the amnesty the democrats are intent on giving soon definitely change the political landscape. They will be our largest voting bloc.

    Ok, Carol, but nothing is having an effect on your community like income inequality. Nothing. We have not had so much income concentrated at the top since 1929, and I am sure you know what happened then. You can keep griping about immigration( and siding with Republicans and xenophobic Democrats who will NEVER do anything about it anyway but gin up and use your political support) but you could send every immigrant back to their home country and you’d still have deteriorated health care, safety net and eduction because the middle class is living off 13% of the national income.

  19. Admin,

    ROTF!!

    The Soylent Greene cowd. Love it.

    MJ – You are wrong about (current) illegal aliens.. If they get healthcare they will ruin the US financially as is now happening with the public school system. They will be entitled to health benefits, the same way they’re entitled to ‘education.” And if the health nsystem starts to resemble the public education system anymore than it already does, we are doomed.

  20. Admin,

    ROTF!!

    The Soylent Greene cowd. Love it.

    MJ – You are wrong about (current) illegal aliens.. If they get healthcare they will ruin the US financially as is now happening with the public school system. They will be entitled to health benefits, the same way they’re entitled to ‘education.” And if the health nsystem starts to resemble the public education system anymore than it already does, we are doomed.

  21. Admin,

    ROTF!!

    The Soylent Greene cowd. Love it.

    MJ – You are wrong about (current) illegal aliens.. If they get healthcare they will ruin the US financially as is now happening with the public school system. They will be entitled to health benefits, the same way they’re entitled to ‘education.” And if the health nsystem starts to resemble the public education system anymore than it already does, we are doomed.

  22. No, I’m not wrong. Doomed, please…You will never see the American government deport illegal immigrants en masse. Hate to tell you, but the Constitution requires education to all children, regardless of immigration status. What is dooming us is income inequality. Do you understand what it means that 13% of the income goes to 80% of the population, or that 37% goes to 1%? Do you have any idea how much income distribution has changed since WWII? Any at all? That’s what is dooming us. But go ahead with your fruitless efforts to demonize the “illegals”. It’s not going to get you ANYWHERE. It’s a waste of breath and space. But if it makes you feel better, go for it. The US government ain’t going to halt immigration. They are not going to deport people en masse. It’s not gonna happen. So, good luck to you anti-immigrant campaign. It’s a foolish waste of time.

  23. MJ….Are you calling me a xenophobic Democrat? I certainly hope not. Tjat is really comparable to saying that anyone who opposed BO is a racist. I am not a xenopphobe and not a racist. I believe strongly in immigration. However, I believe we should be taking immigrants from all over the world, not importing most of Latin America. I also believe we are a country of laws and that is what holds this diverse population together…our respect for the law of the land.

    Just look at California if you want to see what an out of control illegal immigration can do.

  24. The illegal immigrant population in my neighborhood is affecting my pocket book today and my health and safety so, yes, I will fight that situation AS WELL as all the other problems I can handle.
    I also give a lot of my time to animal rescue and I work, so I am able to do more than one thing at a time.

    There are reasonable alternatives between the extremes of amnesty for all and sending everyone home.
    Certainly people who are living in illegal housing, do not have steady work or who are breaking any of our laws and come to the attention of the courts and police should be sent home.
    That would be a start. Illegal immigration is just one more issue that the democrats have staked out that will inflame many americans. But if Brazille / Pelousy are correct, they will have their “new” voters and the rest of us can go to H…

  25. admin:

    Here is a site with wonderful clips of Woodstock then and now…

    Joan Baez, Richie Havens, the concert promoter…

    If you can capture the clips, it would be awesome-

    h… w…. voanews.com/english/VOA-Video-Player.cfm

  26. Don Surber of The DailyMail newspaper is writing about us again. Surber quotes Obama trashing Hillary on November 8, 2007 on her health care fight for Americans. Obama tried to dismiss Hillary’s health care experience by saying “it didn’t work”.

    Surber writes about Obama “They will soon share that experience. Oh, and don’t think Hillary’s supporters have not noticed.” Surber links to Big Pink at that point.

    The link is here: http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2009/08/15/townhalls-forcing-compromise/

  27. Carol said:
    Just look at California if you want to see what an out of control illegal immigration can do.

    =================

    I lived 10 years in a villlage near San Francisco. Now I’m in a pleasant mostly-white area in another state.

    I wish I had a teleport gate to that 7 11 in the California village where any morning I could drive up and get half a dozen immigrants to come and do yard work or heavy lifting or anything else necessary for cash by the hour. (Yes, I paid them minimum wage or more.)

    That’s what immigrants did to that California village. Kept it clean and kept old folks from breaking their own backs. And the lunch wagon they ate at that was all in Spanish had the best and cheapest food in town, I loved it.

  28. Education got ruined by poor funding, the rise of the ballot initiative, and regressive taxation.

    Immigrants do come from all over. We have plenty undocumenteds here from Ireland. That’s why Kennedy is such a proponent of legitimizing undocumenteds. If public education was ruined from “illegal” immigrants then why wasn’t that so when italians and irish and greek were coming in by the boat load, back when we said give us your weak and your hungry? It’s because it ain’t true. Keep focusing on “illegals”. No Party is ever going to go for mass deportation. Ronald Reagan was the last President to legalize undocumenteds. The pols are playing y’all for suckers. They have you focused on the little brown people, but they are NEVER, EVER going to stop them from coming or send them back home. Meanwhile, for every 10 dollars of income in this country, one person will continue to make $3.70 while 80 people will continue to make 1.3 pennies each.

  29. news.aol.com/article/obama-invokes-grandmothers-death-at/623808?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fobama-invokes-grandmothers-death-at%2F623808

    h stuff no ws

    What is this emotional crap about his grandmother, I don’t think they ever buried her. Yet, HRC was accused of using emotions to win the NH primary. They are HYPOCRITS!!!

    I don’t understand the average voter, seeing what they did against HRC, then watching this crap. In addition, she is performing circles around him.

  30. Oh, today while coming out of a restaurant, I saw a women getting into a car with an HRC sticker on the bumper. I could have hugged her. Instead I just ran over and said Hello, and told her I had my stickers on also, and that she had won.

    She probably thought I was nuts.

  31. Here’s your latest installment of CHICAGO STYLE PAY-TO-PLAY:

    Health Economy Now, the group that is heavily funded by Big Pharma, and is running all the high-dollar ads touting Obamacare, gave out some fat contracts to make those ads.

    Guess which consulting groups are making a bundle designing those ads? Why, it’s Axelrod’s good buddies at the company he founded! Also GMMB, who were and are heavily involved with Organizing For America, and who recently hired the facebook kid who did such a nice job pushing Hopenchangen, at a very nice salary.

    Nice to know that while Obama could not drive a good deal on drug prices for the American people, he did very well indeed at diverting some Big Pharma profits into the pockets of his political cronies.

    To make the ads, the group hired GMMB, a political consulting and advocacy advertising firm with close ties to the White House and Senate Democrats, as well as AKPD, top White House strategist David Axelrod’s former firm.

    patdollard.com/2009/08/86779/

  32. Here is the latest giddy-up what is going on at the Chicago BrainTrust:

    Aug 14, 2009

    City Government Closed For Business On Monday
    Chicago-If you planned to check out a library book, visit a city clinic or have your
    garbage picked up on Monday, you’re out of luck.

    The City of Chicago will basically be closed for business on Aug. 17, a reduced-service day in which most city employees are off without pay, according to a release from the Office of Budget and Management. City Hall, public libraries, health clinics and most city offices will be closed.

    (All this from same morons running the country)

    Read more at link:

    h…. cbs2chicago.com/local/Chicago.city.closed.2.1129409.html

  33. admin:

    Thanks for posting the Woodstock video.

    Took a few minutes to figure out how to view it; but worth the effort especially with a full screen.

    Thanks again-

  34. 9. He Sells Out The American Public: I had lunch recently with a member of a prior Republican Administration who is now in business for himself. He is a fine gentleman. I asked him how he saw the current political situation. I fully expected a partisan response, but to my astonishment he said he thought Obama was “pragmatic” and that Axelrod the sworn enemy of his party was “a brilliant guy”. Wow. At that point, I ordered a Bloody Mary and figured he needed it more than I did. And then it dawned on me that the only reason he would say that was because he is doing business with them, and is probably getting a good deal. But if that is the case, then the only thing you can be sure of is one of his competitors is getting a better one courtesy of Mr. Axelrod. But either way he never let on.

    In the aftermath of that conversation, I began to reflect on candidate Obama as he stood before the American People in one of the 26 debates and swore that he would drive the money changers from the temple. But as with every promise he made in the primary and the general election he has since repudiated it and no one in Big Media has the integrity to call snake eyes on him. However, FOX News Organization and others have noticed the steady stream of lobbyists stopping in at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue just to say hello, and asked if they might have a copy of the log of visitors. Whereupon the same man who promised transparency said hell no and slammed the door. The public has no right to know who this White House chooses to do business with and whatever deal it decides to enter into with health care insurers, cap and trade beneficiaries, defense contractors and other virtuous people. The public is merely expected to pay for it.

    Like Pepe Le Moko in the Hollywood movie Algiers (1938) Obama is running his own little Casbah behind White House doors. Are these good deals for the American Public? Or are they additional examples where big business wins and constituents lose e.g. Rezko, Excelon etc.? Consider the small matter of prescription drugs. During the campaign, Obama made a solemn promise to reduce the economic burden of spiraling health care cost on the average American by: i) permitting the importation of cheap foreign drugs and ii) negotiating a $300 billion reduction in cost from the pharmaceutical industry. He told us he would conduct the negotiations in public over C-Span. But we now learn from the industry negotiator, Billy Tauzin that Mr. Obama repudiated everything he promised the American People. He made a secret agreement with the drug industry to veto any bill that permitted the importation of cheap drugs or forced the industry to pay more than $80 billion over 10 years. And the industry was so delighted with the deal that they agreed to pay multi- million dollar cost to advertise and promote it. In 1993, Hillary Clinton proposed health care legislation beneficial to the American People. The insurance companies killed it. This time, the drug industry wants it and is willing to pay for it. Why? Because they know Obama sold out cheap.

  35. Admin. I will forward document ABM 90 referred to tomorrow or Monday.
    In the meantime, let me say that you, SHV and MJ were right about the definition of Obama, and I was wrong to the extent that I tried to define him in part as a leftist. Upon further reflection I realized that the three of you were right. Here is my new and improved definition which I think is legally, morally and factually defensible and above all accurate.
    __________________________________________________________

    2. The Real Obama: the first thing you must understand about Mr. Obama is that he is a man with an unquenchable thirst for power. The word megalomaniac comes readily to mind. He is a quantum leap beyond the big ego present in all successful politicians. Second, he is neither the populist nor the reformer he pretends to be. That is a fiction perpetrated by a hyperbolic and pervasive marketing campaign to bamboozle the unwary. He claims solidarity with various left wing groups. But if you look past his words to his actions, you will see for yourself that he is a company man. Third, he is in fact an agent of the Chicago Machine. To say that is one thing, and the typical reaction is– so what, when it comes to politics, there are no virgins in the whorehouse. But once you appreciate what it means to be a scion of the Chicago Machine, you will no longer feel sanguine about him. Fourth, if you examine his political career in any depth from the time he became a lowly state senator up to now as he presumes to act as President you will find a clear and unmistakable pattern: Obama sells out his constituents to Big Business for the sake of personal and political gain. Today, there is an invisible sign on the White House lawn which reads “For Sale.” Fifth, Obama himself has no core values. Instead, he is a chameleon who adopts himself to the hue and tone of the environment he hopes to influence. In doing so, he convinces people that he is on their side, when in fact he is loyal to no one and nothing except himself. Sixth, and above all, Mr. Obama is using the current economic crisis as a pretext to assume dictatorial powers and to institute fundamental and irreversible changes to our country. Those changes are beneficial to him and his cronies. However, they are detrimental to our country, contrary to the rule of law, offensive to the tradition of progressive politics. In sum, Mr. Obama is a clear and present danger to representative democracy, liberty, and the survival of the middle class. And that my friends is the real Obama. . .

  36. turndownobama Says:

    August 15th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Well I guess those workers hanging out at the 7 11 didn’t move in nextdoor in your single family residential neighborhood and turn it into a roooming house with peolple living illegally in the basemsnt and cars and trucks parked all over the lawn. I’ll bet your school taxes didn’t double in 6 years or your local hospital almost go under.

    and MJ, didn’t most previous waves of immigrants enter legaly? That is the issue, not the color of their skin.

  37. A voice of her own? Absolutely!

    by Susan Harrison Wolffis | Chronicle columnist
    Sunday August 16, 2009, 7:16 AM

    If she’s honest, every woman knows why Secretary of State Hillary Clinton snapped –Â now so famously — when asked what her husband’s thoughts were about the financial contracts the Chinese have with The Democratic Republic of the Congo.

    “You want me to tell you what my husband thinks? My husband is not the Secretary of State, I am. You ask my opinion. I will tell you my opinion; I’m not going to channel my husband,” she said after hearing the question.

    There was no denying that tone of voice.

    Hillary Clinton felt disrespected. There, in a meeting of journalists, diplomats, politicians and students, most of them men, she was rendered invisible.

    If she’s honest, every woman knows the feeling.

    Never mind that the translator seemingly got the question wrong, confusing his presidents and forgetting that Barack Obama is in the White House these days; not Bill Clinton, Hillary’s husband.

    Lay aside partisan politics, personal dislikes and likes, and if possible, forget even that the Secretary of State was in one of the most dangerous places to be a woman. She was in the Congo where gang rape and genital mutilation of women is the norm, not the exception. Hillary Clinton had spent time hearing stories of immense brutality toward women on her tour of the Congo; she had seen the evidence, witnessed the effects.

    In that context, even Hillary’s strongest critics could see the emotional wear that would take; the fuse that was growing emotionally short.

    This isn’t even the first time a Secretary of State has lost his or her cool. There is a certain, if limited, precedence. James Baker lashed out publicly during Mideast negotiations in another example of undiplomatic public responses.

    But all that’s fodder for serious political analysts, the diplomatic corps, even those who don’t always let facts get in the way of their opinion.

    For the time being, I want to talk about what it’s like to be a woman and feel unvalued, even in this day and age. Every woman’s experienced it, regardless of age or political stripe, economic circumstance, choice of career or husband.

    In boardrooms, women are often ignored, their voices outshouted, their voices drowned out or simply talked over, even in the calmest of discussions; their opinions, ignored; their insights, not considered.

    In financial dealings, whether it’s business or personal, how many times does the agent turn to the man, not the woman, as the expert or simply the one who has the final say? In everyday consultations or conversations, how many times is the woman relegated to the sidelines, silenced and unseen?

    There are studies, well researched and holding great credibility, that show boys are called on more than girls in academic settings. There is research that proves women and men can say the exact same thing, same words, same information, even same tone of voice – and yet, the men are seen as the experts. All of this minimizes a woman’s worth, whether it’s self-worth or that which is seen through the eyes of others.

    An old story? Old battle? You bet. Equality is elusive.Â

    When Hillary Clinton blew up, maybe she didn’t follow a diplomat’s rules for carefully chosen words and the demand for a constantly cool demeanor. But women who have been overlooked, women who have gone unheard, women who feel invisible at home and elsewhere understood why.

    The Secretary of State has a voice of her own, even if she had to raise it to be heard.

    mlive.com/opinion/muskegon/index.ssf/2009/08/column_a_voice_of_her_own_abso.html

  38. MJ,

    I find it interesting that you took issue last year during the primaries with what you considered ‘insults’ and yet you have no problem flinging your own when it serves your purpose.

    “The pols are playing y’all for suckers. They have you focused on the little brown people, but they are NEVER, EVER going to stop them from coming or send them back home.”

    ‘But go ahead with your fruitless efforts to demonize the “illegals”.”

    That is a false allegation. No one is demonizing immigrants here. We who are against funding health care for them are against those who haven’t paid into the system receiving benefits at our expense. It has nothing to do with demonizing.

    Let me put it simply. You can only divide a pie up so far. When it comes to the point that there are more ‘eaters’ than producers my take is it’s not right to prohibit those who made the pie from partaking of it.

    And some of the so-called ‘reforms’ would do just that. I’m not buying it.

    As far a your point that “that 13% of the income goes to 80% of the population, or that 37% goes to 1%?’

    So what. Has it ever been different? That’s not going to change. (much) But I don’t find that a sufficient argument to drag the rest of us down for the sake of 5 – 10% of the population who weren’t born here or haven’t pulled their fair share if they are here legally.

    There is never and will never be enough to go around for everyone. That is life. As I’ve said before, I have no objection to emergency care, vaccinations, public health issues.

    “Hate to tell you, but the Constitution requires education to all children, regardless of immigration status.”
    Who do you think you are talking to here? Get off your opinionated arrogant high horse.
    ‘So, good luck to you anti-immigrant campaign. It’s a foolish waste of time.”

    Again, no one is on any anti-immigrant campaign. It is absurd that you keep flinging that charge around on this board. Why don’t YOU spend your time and energy on some REAL ‘right wing’ anti-immigrant sites instead of here.
    Carol says;
    ‘Just look at California if you want to see what an out of control illegal immigration can do.’
    She has a great point. I saw the same thing in New Jersey, before I moved out. My property taxes had more than doubled over the 15 years I lived there
    Let me break it down for you, as someone who lived AND worked in what became an immigrant neighborhood.
    Property taxes, almost $8G for a modest house, were raised to keep pace with rising school costs brought on by increasing numbers of illegals who, yes, were entitled to an ‘education.’
    I have no problem with that. Some of my favorite students and parents were not here illegally.
    What I do have a problem with is the lop-sided financial services these kids received at the expense of citizens.
    A couple of examples to help you understand it.
    The school where I last taught had 3 – 4 classes per grade, K- 5.
    One class in each grade was the ‘bi-lingual class.’ Not only were the class sizes half that of the other ones, they also had a teacher assistant assigned and received one on one regular pull-outs provided by other very-well-compensated staff for extra tutoring during the school day.
    If the average cost of educating a kid in that district was $10 G, the bi-lingual kids got two to three times that amount.
    How is THAT fair to the other kids, the other parents or the property tax payers.
    And, in case you didn’t realize it, the AA parents were livid about the inordinate amount of money paid into the bi-lingual system, especially when the district tried to mandate Spanish be taught to all kids in all grades.

    I remember a couple of parents saying to me their kids couldn’t even speak proper English yet so why would they want them to learn Spanish.
    “Education got ruined by poor funding.’
    BS! The state-controlled districts where I taught had tons of money at their disposal but just like in the ‘stimulus bill” it wasn’t spent right.
    ‘Immigrants do come from all over. We have plenty undocumented here from Ireland.’
    Do they require special bilingual Irish class? Do you know how much those classes and services cost? Do you have kids in public school?
    When I taught in Jersey City there was a large Indian population who got one-on-one Gujharati instruction. Why should I pay for that? Those are things that are not the realm of the public school system,
    “When Italians and Irish and Greek were coming in by the boat load, back when we said give us your weak and your hungry? It’s because it ain’t true.”
    Oh really? I never heard of special pull-out classes or instruction in Italian or Greek.
    “They have you focused on the little brown people, but they are NEVER, EVER going to stop them from coming or send them back home.”
    You re the one who is focused on the ‘little brown people”.
    Perhaps you consider a civil discussion of illegal immigration racist?

  39. Thank you Basil,

    You said much of what I was holding back.

    BTW, I was born and spent my early youth in Jersey City!

  40. basil9 Says:

    August 16th, 2009 at 8:56 am
    ******************************************
    Good job Basil9……and Carol, you’re absolutely right that unless you live ‘up close and personal’, you don’t fully understand the consequences of the immigration issue to local systems. We need a lot of fixing in this country and stopping illegal immigration would certainly be a good start.

  41. Living in NM I understand some of what is going on here. If you live in TX, CA, AZ or NM you are bearing an unusal burden. I wish I knew the right answer to this. Unfortunatly, THE ONE does not really understand it, nor really wants to understand, unless it will get him votes.

    I feel that this issued should have been solved a long time again, like health care, and it really takes a President with the leadership to do it right. Now whether they would get re-elected after that I really don’t know. Of course I don’t think THE ONE will solve it, as he is too busy already running for his second term.

    Well it worked in the Senate. He got elected and immediately started running for office, so why should it not work for the Presidency. I guess he did not think a little thing like the hard solution to the economy dumping would be a problem. After all he is out of town running for re-election, and of course he really will vote Present when the right time comes. Besides, throwing money at a problem, especially if it goes to the Hoods, usually works. It worked in Chicago.

    Good Morning All.

  42. Carol, I am a teacher and will back up your comments on the education costs for illegals. As a special educator I am currently teaching students who are illegal immigrants and cost the district thousands of extra per pupil dollars because the law says we must provide special education services. The district I’m in is struggling financially and yet extra education money must be spent. However, many of these kids can’t even receive the specific teaching we have identified that they need. Lots qualify for our vocational program to learn job skills but can’t participate as they have no social security number to get hired by an employer. Thus we are spending money that cannot even be used for the purpose intended which is providing specialized education services to students with specific learning needs.

    A Minnesota state report from a couple years ago showed that educating illegals cost the state over $100 million per year. And that was in 2004. The average cost per day of educating a student is over $8,000, more if they are in special ed. The costs add up quickly.

    I love the illegal students I teach and I respect their parents for trying to give their kids a better life even if it means worrying day to day that you might get deported. New people to our nation bring their talents, their drive to achieve, and their cultural flavor to our society. All of these are good things. Your ancestors and my ancestors did the same thing and helped build this nation. I wouldn’t want the kids of illegals hurt by denying them an education but I don’t think it’s being racist, negative, or anti-American to examine the genuine costs.

    I don’t know what the anwer is but we need to have a serious discussion on this issue at the national level. Even up here in Minnesota our illegal population numbers have exploded and it’s having an impact on the state economy. There must be some way to find a balance between dealing with the situation and yet not hurting others from the financial drain.

    If this is choice we want as Americans then we desperately need to figure out a way to pay for it.

  43. MJ says:
    “If public education was ruined from “illegal” immigrants then why wasn’t that so when italians and irish and greek were coming in by the boat load,”

    First of all, immigrating by boat across the Atlantic ocean from Europe and then going through Ellis Island before either being admitted to the US or turned back is far different and involved far fewer people than what’s going on today from Central and South America.

    ‘From 1892 to 1954, over 12 million immigrants entered the United States from Ellis Island, a small island in New York Harbor located just off the New Jersey coast, within the shadow of the Statue of Liberty.’ Wikipedia.

    ://cis.org/IllegalImmigration-ShiftingTide

    Illegal immigration was 12.5 million in the summer of 2007, 10.8
    million in the first quarter of 2009.

    There is evidence that the illegal population rose in the summer of
    2007, while Congress was considering legalizing illegal immigrants. When
    that legislation failed to pass, the illegal population quickly began a
    dramatic fall.

    So the US is absorbing close to the same number of people who immigrated over the span of 60+ years EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

    We can’t afford that.

    There are no controls over the people spilling across the southern borders; no helth checks, no background checks, no documentation, not a d@mn thing.

  44. If no one minds, I will put my two cents in about the underlying theme here. It is my personal opinion that the best political debates are built on factual discourse without the need to insert personal attacks on someone, in other words labeling/name calling just because you don’t agree with his/her p.o.v.

    I applaud Paula and the others for standing tall and firm as well as furthering the debates with personal experience and well-researched facts.

    I hope I haven’t offended.

  45. Well if Dems poll better at weekends, god help Bambi next week. He’s sinking like shit down the flushhole.

    Rassmussen

    Rasmussen -9 (41% Stongly Disapprove, 52% Overall Disapproval)

    he Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 32% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9 (see trends).

    Today’s update marks the highest level of Strong Disapproval for President Obama ever. Previously, the number who Strongly Disapprove had reached 40% three times in late July. Most Americans would prefer no health care reform this year rather than passage of the legislation currently working its way through Congress.

    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.

  46. If one subtracts 10%, the African-American voters, the numbers for Obama become startling. If we say African-American voters do not desert Obama, it means that only 22% of non-African-American voters strongly approve of the way Barack Obama is performing his role as president. That means that non-African voters by a 2 to 1 margin strongly disapprove of Obama’s performance (41-22).

    Again, making the same subtraction, only 37% of the voters “somewhat approve” against 52% who somewhat disapprove.

    At the present pace, Obama will be down to African-Americans, welfare queens, Democrat apparatchiks, and a few asylum inmates.

  47. AMerican Gal said:
    Lots qualify for our vocational program to learn job skills but can’t participate as they have no social security number to get hired by an employer.

    =================

    Then change the rule: stop requiring a current SS number for that training.

  48. moon,

    And the more he sinks, the more he spends money he doesn’t have on advertising, the more the media, with few exceptions, trys to put a positive spin on what he is doing.

    I just hopes this translates into a minority government for him in 2010 and an about-face by the voters when he tries to worm his way into a second term.

  49. One also has to remember that GWB finished his sencond term on 35% approval thats only 12% lower than where goldenboy is now.

  50. Carol Says: I’ll bet your school taxes didn’t double in 6 years or your local hospital almost go under.

    ===============

    Our village schools were going under for lack of students, because we legal residents were too old or to gay to have children.

  51. HHS Sebelius admits BO caves on public option…insurance and health care reform all but dead…

    August 16, 2009
    Sebelius: Public insurance option not essential
    The Associated Press

    President Barack Obama’s health secretary is suggesting the White House is ready to accept nonprofit insurance cooperatives instead of a government-run public option in a health overhaul plan. A Republican senator says that is worth looking at.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says Obama still believes there should be choice and competition” in the health insurance market — but that a public option is “not the essential element.”

    Obama has been pressing for the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation’s nearly 50 million uninsured. But he had not seen a not-for-profit co-op as sufficient to offer consumers choice and competition that would bring down the costs of private insurance.

    Sebelius spoke on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    Republican Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama says a potential administration shift from a government-run health insurance to a privately run cooperative is something that opponents like him should consider.

    Shelby is a vocal opponent of the health care overhaul proposed by President Barack Obama. Shelby says he sees insurance co-ops as “a step away from the government take over of the health care system.”

    He says “that’s something we should look at.”

    Democratic Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota has been pushing the co-op system as an alternative to a government-run public option to help cover the nation’s nearly 50 million uninsured. Conrad says it’s an idea that has worked well in other business models.

    The senators appeared on “Fox News Sunday.”

  52. Isn’t it more like sh*t that’s about to hit the fan?…It’s gonna get all over the Obmanation…

  53. As I remember OO pointed out that HRC had failed at implementing a Universal Health Care Plan, he pointed that out in the Primary Debates. Then, he does not look at her plan, and what happen when she tried to implement. HRC, with her proposed plan during the Primaries, learned from what had happened to her. OO goes out, listens to the non-experienced around him, demands a health care plan without giving any guidance, changes the name to Reform to protect the innocent, and cannot understand why he is plummiting in the polls.

    Obvious OO does not learn from other peoples experience (since he had none of his own), and we continue to learn the lesson of Electing whom our children recommend, who talks hope and change, but never presents a specific plan (Not even after elected), who bumbles through international trips like they are great vacations for his family photo ops, but cannot seem to find that 5 minutre piece of paper he was suppose to use to hammer home a tough negotiation with the friends that he now Shxts on, as he bows and scrapes to our enemies.

    I could go on and on, but this is too easy. He does not have a clue as to how to work legislation, and is only interested in getting re-elected. If the American people let this happen again, we have only ourselves to blame. Well actually, we are to blame now, as the evidence was there.

  54. Are we reading each other’s minds now. I used Shxt before I refreshed and saw you guy had already gone to a discussion in that direction. This is scarey.

  55. It just becomes more and more apparent that the Potemkin President as I call him these days is more and more just as fake as that Potemkin temple he had at the Dem convention.

    Pull it down or peek round the back and all you get is the gophers pulling the ropes to hold it up with crap all else.

    He’s like one of those people in “Dollhouse” can be made to say anything and do anything and quite disposable.

  56. NMF,

    When I heard some of the idiot Dims like Caroline and Carter say thier kids had convinced them to vote for BO I knew it was over for the party.

    I don’t think I had ever been so disgsuted b as I was by such a$$hats masquerading as adults.

    Even Bradzilla and the DNC evil mongers didn’t offend me as much as I’d always expected them to show their true race-baiting selves.

  57. He comes off as being a person that when you are with him, he says what pleases you. Leading a country, you have to be more decisive than that, and make hard decisions.

    I still think he will get some sort of plan, as the Dims will make the blue dogs eat shxt if they do not. There will be a temporary poll gain from that, and then reality, debt, and the economy will set in.

    So how much from China to make the next fix for the economy, when the dollars don’t create jobs equal to what we are losing (well last stats said 1/2 of what we lost), or help people stay in their homes?

    Whether you like it or not, first impressions are important, so the cry that well, he has only had a little over 100 days does not sell. That was his opportunity to show the American People he actual could start leading from day one. Well the SOS sure hit the ground running, and as I remember, other than slowing down with a broken elbow, she has not taken a vacation.

  58. AmericanGal Says:

    August 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    My ancestors came to this country legally!

    This is not a discussion of the benefits of immigration. We are a nation of immigrants. I am a fourth generation child of immigrants. This is a discussion of illegal immigration. If you can’t distinquish then we really can’t have the discussion.

    One of the many problems of illegal immigration is that we have no control over who is entering the country. We are not given the opportunity to turn away people with criminal records, for instance. We also don’t have the ability to limit the numbers entering to those we can afford to absorb…..look at California…or my semi rural community in NY.

    NY state law dictates that ifa certain % of students in a grade does not speak English an ESL teacher must be hired. 10 years ago we had one ESL teacher. Now we have one for each grade. We have tripled our # of special education teachers. The per student cost of educating an elementary school student in my village has gone from about $10,000 to $19,500. The tax increase have been deastating for many seniors and families.

    The illegals as a group here are further distinquishing themselves here by their flagrant disregard for any of our laws. You really can’t blame them for their lack of respect for our laws. They came come illegally, then violate all kinds of laws, end up in court and nothing happens. They obtain free care at the hospital, often thru medicaid, and then return again whenever they need to.

  59. Carol,

    Having worked with both legal and illegal (mostly) hispanics, I can say that e little respect for American history or culture, period.

    I can’t tell you how many times I walked into the teacher’s room when several hispanic employees had congregated and were speaking in spanish (not knowing I could understand them) and trash the country, the Americans, the ‘gringas and say they were taking over.

    It was similar to what often happened when I came on groups of AA teachers dissing ‘whitey.’

  60. MOP,

    Obama will be down to African-Americans, welfare queens, Democrat apparatchiks, and a few asylum inmates

    ‘You forgot all the dead people.’ 👿

  61. NewMexicoFan Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    As I remember OO pointed out that HRC had failed at implementing a Universal Health Care Plan

    ====================

    Hillary spent the first Clinton years CREATING a good detailed plan. Iirc, by the time it got to Congress, the honeymoon period was over so the GOP defeated it.

    Obama is striking while his honeymoon is hot. Too bad he doesn’t HAVE a good plan and won’t use hers from the primary.

  62. TheRealist Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    HHS Sebelius admits BO caves on public option…insurance and health care reform all but dead…

    August 16, 2009
    Sebelius: Public insurance option not essential
    The Associated Press

    President Barack Obama’s health secretary is suggesting the White House is ready to accept nonprofit insurance cooperatives instead of a government-run public option in a health overhaul plan. A Republican senator says that is worth looking at.

    ===============

    I read that as HMS Sebelius (His Majesty’s Ship).

    Actually an open-ended number of co-ops might be worth looking at. Credit unions have a better track record than other banks don’t they?

    Public programs like Medicare and Soc Sec have been doing so much better than HMOs that they seem attractive. But they really are all eggs in one basket and one Congress could mess them up any time. Opening the field to new co-ops, to provide competition to both the HMOs and future versions of Medicare, might be a good idea.

  63. There they go flip-flopping again. If he dares to say one word about how Hillary failed at healthcare after this, then I hope the men in the white shirts come and get him.

  64. Clinton’s Africa Trip Meant to Underscore US Commitment to Closer Ties

    By Scott Stearns
    Dakar
    16 August 2009

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is back in the United States after a seven-nation tour of Africa. Secretary Clinton’s Africa trip was meant to follow-up on the policies outlined in President Barack Obama’s speech before Ghana’s parliament last month.

    “At every stop, we have emphasized the importance of fulfilling what President Obama said in his historic speech in Ghana: The future of Africa is up to the Africans,” she said.

    From Kenya to Cape Verde, Clinton spoke of the link between economic progress and good governance, respect for the rule of law – especially as it relates to gender- and sexual-based violence. She also spoke of Washington’s willingness to work with allies to end violence in the oil-rich Niger Delta and the Democratic Republic of Congo’s troubled Kivu regions.

    “This was a very important trip that both President Obama and I wanted to make early in the administration to send a very clear message that the Obama administration is committed to developing an even stronger and closer relationship with, not just the governments, but especially the peoples of Africa,” said Clinton.

    Secretary Clinton promised continued support for the government in Somalia, called on Kenyan leaders to bring to justice those responsible for electoral violence, and urged the governments of Angola and Nigeria to do more to fight corruption in the oil sector.

    She praised the government of Cap Verde for spending wisely money it is receiving from the U.S. Millennium Challenge Account.

    Secretary Clinton said the United States and South Africa will work more closely to push for reforms in Zimbabwe. She said there should be presidential elections in Angola “in a timely manner” and continued electoral reforms in Liberia and Nigeria before their respective elections in 2011. “Given the conflicts and the challenges that have often prevented the African people from realizing their full potential, the United States stands ready to be a partner and a friend,” she added.

    Secretary Clinton met with the presidents of Kenya, South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria and Liberia, as well as the Prime Minister of Cape Verde. “The most important part of this trip are the relationships that we have built, the commitments that we have discussed, the problems that we have honestly explored,” said Clinton. “We have not shied away from raising the difficult problems that exist and stand in the way of the people of Africa realizing their potential. And I think that will stand the test of time.”

    State Department officials traveling with Secretary Clinton say she also discussed the Group of Eight leading industrialized nation’s $20-billion food security initiative. That money is in addition to emergency humanitarian programs, and is meant to fight hunger by enabling small farmers to produce more of their own food by improving productivity.

    voanews.com/english/2009-08-16-voa11.cfm

  65. Dems abandoning leadership advice

    By Jared Allen
    Posted: 08/16/09

    An August in which Democrats were supposed to return home to sell the merits of a universal healthcare plan has turned into one where members are publicly fending for themselves.

    Some have even shunned the talking points and tactics their leaders encouraged them to use to gin up support for the Democratic healthcare bill as they’ve engaged with sometimes hostile constituents.

    Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.) recently lashed out at Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) recommended talking points aimed at the insurance industry, and criticized her approach in a letter to a local private insurance company, according to the Louisville Courier Journal. “Regrettably, with passions inflamed throughout the country, Speaker Pelosi recently made inflammatory statements that assailed the character of health insurers across the board. I unequivocally reject those misguided comments,” Yarmouth wrote to the CEO of Louisville-based Humana, the paper reported this week.

    Democrats unveiled a line of attack against the private insurance industry after the House failed to move a healthcare bill before August recess, an attack President Barack Obama has taken up in recent days. Pelosi called insurers the “villains” of the healthcare reform debate.

    Even Democrats who are not part of the central leadership team were confident that attacking the insurance industry would play well, even in districts where members were due to face a backlash against “socialized medicine.”

    But Yarmuth’s comments show the strategy has less than unanimous support.

    Some Democrats remain intent on staying on message, but are increasingly opting to do so in more controlled settings. Instead of opting for an open, public forum, where they are subject to jeers and confrontations that are dripping onto web sites like YouTube.com almost hourly, some lawmakers are conducting constituent meetings over the Internet.

    “Holding a telephone town hall meeting is an effective way for me to hear from thousands of residents across the Tampa Bay area,” Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.) said in a statement. A member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and a strong supporter of the leading House healthcare bill backed by her chairman, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), she opted for a tele-town hall after an earlier event turned violent and police had to provide her with a escort out of the event to ensure her safety.
    Castor, though, painted her telephone town hall as a convenience for constituents.

    “It’s convenient for my neighbors too. You don’t need to leave your house to participate. Folks simply answer the phone to access the call or dial in, which is helpful to those who cannot travel or suffer the August heat and thunderstorms.”

    The pressure members are feeling to navigate the remainder of the August recess without being skewered on YouTube was relayed to Democratic leaders on a caucus conference call earlier this week.

    But leadership aides only told members to avoid becoming discouraged, and to avoid canceling their public meetings. Leadership aides have also been giving members tips on how to keep their meetings calm and civil, including bringing along other local civic leaders – an approach that did not have the desired effect at Castor’s Aug. 6 town hall – and to highlight “personal stories” by having their constituents with healthcare horror stories appear on stage alongside them.

    thehill.com/leading-the-news/dems-abandoning-leadership-advice-2009-08-16.html

  66. August 16, 2009

    Elite Meltdown
    By Nancy Morgan

    The face-off between the ruling party and the people continues to unfold, as Democrat politicians hold town hall meetings across the country to build support for the Obama administration’s latest power grab, misleadingly labeled ‘health care reform.’

    The faux outrage politicians manufacture on demand has been replaced by real outrage. Outrage at the American people for failing to understand the nuances, the broad outline of a 1,000 page plus bill that most politicians haven’t even read. Hey, that’s what staff is for, explained new Democrat, Arlen Spector.

    Peons from fly-over country are daring to challenge the carefully scripted and (deliberately?) misleading talking points. Talking points which, by the way, have been endorsed by the media. Don’t these guys read the New York Times?

    Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are using the standard liberal tactic of diverting attention from the issue by demonizing the dissenter, in this case, the American people. According to Pelosi and Reid, voicing objections to the federal government’s take over of 17% of the formerly free market economy is ‘un-American.’ Harry Reid has gone a step further, tarring dissenter’s as ‘evil mongers.’

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs has blithely dismissed the burgeoning dissent by informing one and all that these ‘townhalls are not representative of America.’ Obama, meanwhile, is trying to divert the issue by blaming the ‘headline hungry television networks’, accusing them of ‘enflaming an ugly backlash.’

    Unused to any opposition that can’t be spun to their advantage or ignored, Democrats are desperately trying to convince Americans that the tidal wave of opposition is not genuine. Used to viewing every issue in political terms, our elected officials are actually convinced that the disruptive townhalls are merely the product of an evil conservative cabal. After all, every person these lawmakers know agree with them on this issue. Its called the ‘inside the beltway syndrome.’

    Despite a new $12 million ad campaign designed to soothe Americans into relying on misplaced compassion instead of common sense, pesky Joe Six-Pack and Susy Homemaker still don’t get it. And adding insult to injury, American citizens are starting to question where all the money is coming from to run these ads. And by the way, who’s signing the paychecks for the new army of health care advocates who are being paid $12 to $13 an hour for their support? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Answers to these questions are not forthcoming. Like the classic case of a wife catching her husband in bed with another woman, the question has become, “Who are you going to believe? Me, or your lying eyes?”

    Obama, in his latest finger-pointing lecture to the great unwashed, assured the masses that the proposed ‘public option’ won’t put private insurers out of business. When confronted with his own words to the contrary in 2007, he dismissed the discrepancy as a ‘mis-statement’. Oops. Time to move on. Time to focus on the real villains.

    Identifying a common enemy is another tried and true tactic liberals employ when it gets too hot in the kitchen. But the historically favorite villain, those dastardly drug companies, have already made their deal with the government health plan. And blaming the insurance companies won’t work either, since they’re on board, too. The only villain left is the American people.

    Not all Americans, Obama and the media assure us. No, the real villain can be traced to the ‘hate groups’ that have suddenly, and conveniently emerged. As reported by ABC: “Experts say a sharp growth in so-called militia groups that helped spawn a wave of domestic terrorism in the 1990s – are now using YouTube, rock music and the Internet to recruit members and spread hate and fear – and shouldn’t be ignored.”

    These hate groups, we are assured by the ultra liberal Southern Poverty Law Center, are protesting President Obama, not his health care plan. Not only that, they are putting his life in danger. Headlines inform us: ‘Fear For Obama’s Safety Grows As Hate Groups Thrive On Racial Backlash.’

    This is a media twofer. Obama is the now the victim instead of the oppressor. And dissenters are racist rednecks. The only problem is, Americans aren’t buying it. They’re suffering from the political equivalent of the ‘battered woman syndrome.’ Americans have been deceived and beaten up by the government so many times lately, that, even thought they still love Obama, they’re taking steps to distance themselves from what has become an increasingly dangerous relationship. Flowers, new cars, and soothing words are no longer effective. Even the race card isn’t ringing their bells.

    Liberals have finally succeeded in persuading Americans to look at the broad picture instead of inconvenient details. The kicker is, as more Americans see the broad picture, they see the unprecedented devolution of power to the federal government. They see the loss of America’s traditional reliance on individuals instead of government. They see the loss of personal liberty and freedom of choice. And they don’t like it.

    americanthinker.com/2009/08/elite_meltdown.html

  67. Pelosi called insurers the “villains” of the healthcare reform debate.

    =====================

    THen why are insurers spending a lot of money on ads SUPPORTING ‘Obama’s reform’?

  68. I saw pics of the usurper and his family at Yosemite, trying to learn to be an American. He even went fly fishing, although he learned his lesson when he went bowling in front of the camera’s. Everyone knew he was an elite, never bowled a day in his life. So he went fly fishing without the cameras.

  69. I finally figured this damned thing out . . . not at the computer but in a casino. We should never despair when wisdom comes late, because too often it never comes at all. In my case it damned near didn’t. Now we can stop crying and start kicking ass.
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    10. Why Big Media Aids And Abets Him: I have a good friend whose family was in the small town newspaper business for 100 years. Their product was consistently rated the best small town newspaper in the America, and they were committed to the highest standards of journalism. They were active in the American Newspaper Publishers Association. They were friends with the legendary Ben Bradley, and he told them how hard he worked to make sure the Watergate story was true in every respect and the two young investigative reporters named Woodward and Bernstein were fair and accurate.

    Today, the bias of Big Media is open and notorious. They promote Obama and attack Hillary every chance they get. The Pew Institute has proven this by analyzing the percentage of positive vs. negative stories on each of those figures over the past two years. This bias permeates every aspect of their business from content, to point of view, to air time, to selection of pundit to subliminal messaging. It began on the eve of the primary season, when CNN retained strategists developed a marketing strategy to brand Hillary Clinton as “divisive”, “polarizing”, “dishonest”, “untrustworthy”, “calculating”.

    Then they proceeded to repeat those adjectives again and again in the same manner that “biological warfare” and “weapons of mass destruction” were pounded across the air waves in the lead-up to the Iraq War. ABC White House correspondent Jake Tapper was kind enough to compare Hillary to “Tanya Harding” implying that she would break Obama’s knees to steal his crown. And, even today, Big Media ignores the excellent work Hillary is doing as Secretary of State, but when she gave a tough response to an insulting question in the Congo, they presented that clip over and over again to subtly suggest she is not likeable enough to be presidential.

    Meanwhile, MSNBC superstar Chris Matthews told us that when he sees Mr. Obama he feels as tingle up his leg and when he sees Hillary he is reminded of Nurse Ratched. Write to NBC Chief Steve Capus about this (as they suggest) and he will not answer you. Under pressure from the New York Chapter of the National Organization for Women he had Matthews apologize and hand the baton to Don Juan Olberman. Not to be outdone, Olberman promptly suggested that someone should take Hillary in the backroom and commit mayhem because she would not drop out of the primary until every state had had an opportunity to vote. GE, NBC, MSNBC were in lock step that she should concede to The Great Obama immediately.

    Why is this happening? Part of it relates to the entrepreneurial motive to promote a hot property and ensure access to the candidate. Part of it is symptomatic of the pathologies which former Wall Street Journal editor Peter Kahn identified in 1992. But the controlling factor is the business objectives of the conglomerates who now own Big Media. GE owns NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, AOL/Time-Warner owns CNN, Disney owns ABC, and Westinghouse owns CBS. We know for a fact that GE has a sweetheart deal with Obama. Thus, it is logical to assume that the others do as well. If those deals are anything like the deals Obama had with Rezko, Exelon and Tauzin then they will be anxious to preserve them. They know if Obama fails then Hillary is the mutually prominent alternative and she would never ratify a deal which is contrary to the interests of the American People. For those who ask why Big Media promotes The Great Obama 24-7 and attacks Hillary at a time when she is no longer an elected official, there is your answer.

    This is why the CEO of GE pierced the corporate veil of his subsidiary NBC and killed a story critical of The Great Obama. It is why Big Media stalked and tried to destroy a private citizen who had the audacity to ask The Great Obama a question the answer to which revealed his future intention to spread the wealth of the middle class. And above all, it is how Big Media became Thug Media in the eyes of most Americans, and why it is no longer worth listening to. The seeds of this devolution were sewn years ago when GE purchased NBC, and destroyed its journalistic culture to enhance profitability. But a news organization is not a widget factory. Responsible journalism marches to its own drum. It is fair. It takes time. And, if a story cannot be verified then it must be killed and you eat the losses. The profession of journalism requires nothing less. Unfortunately, it is a hard discipline which today’s profit driven practitioners do not accept.

  70. wbboei Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    ================

    Makes sense.

    How far backwards can you trace the pattern? Gore? Bill Clinton? Goldwater?

  71. Anyone else think it’s creepy the way BO is now invoking his granny’s death in the health care (insurance) debate and whining about how he would never pull the plug on other’s grannies after seeing his own deteriorate?

    This after he said she shouldn’t have been given a hip replacement coz of her age and hder cancer?

    And I am still not convinced she died when he siad – two days before the (s)election. how conenient for him. I wonder why it took months for him to get back t hawaii for services. i wonder what else he was doing in Hawaii.

    He is a psychopath.e

  72. Funny you say that basil9, I was just about to post a youtube with yesterday’s
    Grandma rebuttal mentioned in the video.

    If admin will embed….

    Although my reason for posting it was asking for help in discerning just exactly how did BO prove his point using the Republican example. I was intent on nominating this video for a Hall of Shame award as “The Best of Obama’s Bait and Switch Responses.”

    youtube.com/watch?v=kZmUzMtPLcE&feature=player_embedded

    Funny thing is… people applauding his remarks.

  73. Mrs. Smith,
    Today i was sitting on my enclosed porch with 3 of the 4 parrots free flying and perching in their spots when the plum-head parakeet Mrs. Mrs.Smith,

    Today I was sitting on my enclosed porch with 3 of the 4 parrots free flying and perching in their spots when the plum-head parakeet suddenly started darting around the room flipped out of her mind, practically banging into the quarter-inch-galvanized steel screening and finally landing on the floor under a chair.

    I had a hard time coaxing her onto a perch and into a cage. I was wondering why she’d gotten so freaked (although she is very high-strung) when I saw a red-tail hawk in the woods behind the cottage.

    But what struck me is that Basil (my namesake) is a hand-raised bird whose never been in the wild and her species is from the Indian rain forests where I don’t think there are too many red-tails as natural predators.

    My point is, every living creature has instincts about predators and while I certainly didn’t feel the urge to flap my arms and physically get away from BO, from the very beginning he sent shivers down my spine.

    He is the enemy.

  74. Obama’s dem supporters have gone in 6 months from “yes we can” to “please no d’ont do it”.

    They are crapping themselves nationwide at the dick. In fact the only part of Obama that doesnt look a dick is his dick.

  75. From bemusedoutsider.livejournal.com

    Healthcare nonsense — cui bono?
    Aug. 16th, 2009 | 04:41 pm

    Yes, rational debate is being shut down. Cui bono?

    Look at some major supporters of ‘Obama’s reform.’ Insurance companies and drug companies are spending and budgeting large amounts for ads (and for astroturfed organizations) supporting it.

    Those companies have means and opportunity to do their homework and find out what is likely to actually be in the bill. They have motive to maximize their own profits, protect their own investors.

    So — if they’re supporting Obama’s bill — is it likely to be real ‘reform’? Or is it more likely a placebo, an opiate for the populists, a cowpox to vaccinate the nation against any REAL reform getting passed?

    To keep the Left from looking at the issues, at what the bill is likely to include — and to keep us from lobbying for things like a strong public option, continuing to allow drug imports from Canada, not cutting Medicare, etc … we’re kept distracted with accounts of the far out fringe of conservatives. If some Bad Rightwing Nuts are against the bill, the implication is, then the bill must be a Good Leftist Bill. Annoy a Wingnut: support Obamacare.

    I’d rather annoy an insurance company by QUESTIONING the bill.

    Look what’s happening. We hear lots of people out shouting that the bill is socialized medicine, is far left, etc. So us Leftists, believing them, are supporting it without factchecking. Do we believe anything else the Right-Wing-Nuts claim? Why believe they are right about this, either?

    Could the Reality Based Community please try Reality Basing our reaction, here?

  76. Makes sense.

    How far backwards can you trace the pattern? Gore? Bill Clinton? Goldwater?
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    Eisenhower complained about it. But I think it got way worse with media consolidation legislation and campaign finance reform which shut a porthole and opened the floodgates to money, and with money comes control. That was in the 90s was it not?

  77. wbboei Says:

    August 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    ——————————

    Another excellent analysis. Your writing continues to amaze me.

  78. basil9 Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Cute story, metaphorically speaking.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    basil9 Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Murphy’s Law. It happens to all of us…

    even to us recovering dyslexics.

  79. Basil: where corporate lobbyists are concerned is big easy. Negotiating with him is like negotiation with yourself. Just make political contributions, give him a headline and say nice things. Do that and he will sell out his constituents in a New York minute. That is the nightmare progressives must wrassle with since many of them were swept away by his race and his pious tones. It is almost like a low grade horror movie for them.

  80. wbb:

    I think William Randolf Hearst was the innovator of “yellow journalism” when newspapers were the only news source. Hearst was responsible for the viral demonization, done through news print, to formally have “marijuana” outlawed.

    Of course, his true intent for his unrelenting attacks on hemp is still up for discussion. Some say it was for preventing commercial hemp as the primary supply for paper rather than Hearst’s contractual supply of timber forests.. Others, me included, feel it was at the behest of President Hoover’s affiliation with Dow Chemical co’s discovery of a new use for petroleum, plastic.

  81. Iran defies condemnation, expands opposition trial

    By NASSER KARIMI (AP)

    TEHRAN, Iran — Iran expanded a mass trial of opposition supporters on Sunday with the addition of 25 defendants — including a Jewish teenager — in defiance of international condemnation, as France said Iran agreed to release a French woman held on spying charges from prison.

    The defendants are among more than 100 people charged with plotting a “soft revolution” against the Islamic theocracy during the postelection protests. The mass trial is part of an attempt to put an end to the protests by those who say Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s June 12 re-election was the result of fraud.

    In apparent attempt to fend off criticism and move ahead with his second term, Ahmadinejad named three women who, if confirmed, would be Iran’s first female Cabinet ministers since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

    The trial, now in its third session, has included a number of televised confessions and has drawn international condemnation from human rights groups that allege the confessions are coerced. The U.S. last week labeled the event a “show trial.” The trial and official acknowledgments that some detainees have been abused in prison have only added to anger among both opposition supporters and some conservatives upset with the treatment of protesters.

    The additional defendants brought the total number being tried to 135. The defendants include a number of high-ranking politicians linked to the country’s pro-reform movement as well as employees from the British and French embassies and an Iranian-Canadian reporter for Newsweek magazine.

    A 24-year-old French academic, Clotilde Reiss, who had appeared during one of the previous court sessions, was freed Sunday from an Iranian prison, the French president’s office said late Sunday. She was arrested July 1 for attending a postelection demonstration. During her court appearance, Reiss apologized for attending the demonstration but said she did so because she was curious. The French Foreign Minister has said the statement was “worked on,” suggesting it was coerced. The French president’s office said it was asking for all charges to be dropped against Reiss and that she’ll be residing at the French Embassy in Tehran until she can return home.
    France is also asking for all charges to be dropped against another of its citizens, Nazak Afshar, who has dual French-Iranian citizenship and worked at the French Embassy. She appeared during a previous court session before being released from prison. She’s now residing at the French Embassy in Tehran. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner later said on the iTele TV station that bail was paid for Reiss but that the sum was “not enormous.” While she stays at the embasssy, Reiss will prepare her defense “to make her innocence known,” Kouchner said in a statement. He also reiterated the charges against her and the French-Iranian embassy employee, Nazak Afshar, were “unfounded.”

    At Sunday’s hearing, officials showed a film of attacks on public property, cars and a mosque by protesters, and the prosecutor accused the defendants of plotting the postelection turmoil years in advance. One of the new defendants was Yaghoghil Shaolian, 19, a member of Iran’s Jewish community, which numbers about 25,000 people. He was quoted by the semiofficial Fars news agency as saying that he was not an activist but that he got caught up in the moment and threw stones at a Tehran bank during a protest.

    Iran’s only Jewish parliamentarian, Siamak Mereh Sedq, confirmed the detention of Shaolian and his Jewish identity to The Associated Press. He said the detention was not connected to his religion and that Shaolian is innocent.

    Ahmadinejad’s decision to appoint three women to his Cabinet appeared to be an attempt to mollify the opposition and some of his conservative supporters while currying favor with women. Marzieh Vahid Dastgerdi, a 50-year-old gynecologist, will become health minister and Fatemeh Ajorlu, a 43-year-old lawmaker, will be minister of welfare and social security, Ahmadinejad said. He said he’ll nominate at least one more woman to the Cabinet, but did not give a name. Ahmadinejad’s chances of using the nominations to win over the opposition seems slim as the two women he named are considered fellow hard-liners.

    Women took part in large numbers in the street protests that followed the disputed election. Ahmadinejad’s attempts as president to enforce a strict dress code on women and the jailing of many female activists has won him few favors with women. Female politicians are not unheard of in Iran. Although they are barred from the presidency and religious posts, many Iranian women are in parliament and other political offices. Ahmadinejad currently has a female vice president. But Iran has not had a female Cabinet minister since the 1979 revolution that brought the cleric-led regime to power. The last female minister, Farrokhroo Parsay, was executed on charges of corruption after the revolution.

    Ahmadinejad is slated to present his new Cabinet to parliament on Wednesday. Every minister has to be approved by parliament — an uncertain prospect given that some lawmakers have criticized Ahmadinejad for not consulting with them prior to making his nominations.
    Ahmadinejad also named cleric Haidar Moslehi as the new intelligence minister to replace Gholam Hossein Mohseni Ejehi, who lost his job in July in an apparent dispute over the handling of the clampdown on the unrest.

    The Iranian president on Sunday also appeared to criticize President Barack Obama in a thinly veiled reference. “The excellency who talks about change made a big mistake when he openly interfered in Iran’s domestic issues,” Ahmadinejad told a group of clerics Sunday, according to the semiofficial Mehr news agency.
    Iran has tried to taint the unrest by asserting that it is a product of international meddling rather than internal anger.

    Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, who claims he was the true election winner, is also consolidating his political forces. According to newspaper reports Sunday, he has announced he will form a new political organization aimed at regaining people’s constitutional rights.
    Mousavi has not been arrested since the unrest began, although some hard-liners have called for him to be put on trial along with other opposition leaders.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixeFBxfLzaSjs8Mb8cuFmtPOT6-wD9A4842G0

  82. bambi is making new friends…

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    Mashaal: Hamas can speak with Obama

    Aug. 16, 2009
    Khaled Abu Toameh , THE JERUSALEM POST

    Hamas is interested in opening a dialogue with the Obama administration because its policies are much better than those of former US president George W. Bush, Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal said on Sunday.

    He denied reports about progress in negotiations for the release of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Schalit.

    Mashaal also denied that Hamas was seeking to impose strict Islamic rule in the Gaza Strip, saying religion should not be enforced through coercion.

    The Damascus-based leader’s remarks came in an interview with the Qatari newspaper Al-Watan and were published a day after Hamas foiled an attempt by a more radical Islamist group to establish an Islamic emirate in the Gaza Strip.

    At least 28 Palestinians were killed and more than 120 were wounded in clashes that erupted between Hamas security forces and the Jund Ansar Allah group in Rafah. The group’s leader, Sheikh Abdel Latif Mousa, died when he and one of his bodyguards blew themselves up during attempts to persuade them to surrender.

    “We’re not courting anyone, but we are dealing with matters with openness and realism,” Mashaal said when asked whether his recent statements about accepting a Palestinian state alongside Israel marked a shift in Hamas’s policy. “We have no problem dealing with any party in the world expect for the Zionist occupier. As for the US or any other country in the west or east, we are prepared to conduct dialogue with them because we are owners of a just cause.”

    He praised President Barack Obama for using a different language than his predecessor. “As long as there’s a new language, we welcome it,” Mashaal said. “But we want to see not only a change of language, but also a change of policies on the ground. We have said that we are prepared to cooperate with the US or any other international party that would enable the Palestinians to get rid of occupation.”

    Mashaal stressed, however, that his statements did not mean that Hamas would accept the demands of the Quartet to recognize Israel, renounce violence and honoring all previous agreements reached between Palestinians and Israelis.

    Mashaal strongly denied that his organization was trying to impose Shari’a in the Gaza Strip. Hamas, he said, was a national liberation movement whose main priority was to “liberate the homeland and restore Palestinian rights.”
    Hamas did not have a policy of “imposing religion on anyone, because faith comes should come through persuasion, not coercion.”

    Mashaal claimed that a recent decision by a judge in the Gaza Strip requiring female lawyers appearing in court to cover their heads did not reflect Hamas policy. “The judge acted on his own and not in coordination with Hamas or the government of Ismail Haniyeh,” he explained. “The judge wanted to implement his own interpretation of the law. We are now looking into this matter, but our policy remains that religion should not be imposed on anyone.”

    As for Schalit, there was nothing new. The efforts to agree on a prisoner exchange with Israel were continuing nevertheless, he added. “Until now, there hasn’t been a real breakthrough,” he said, denying reports that some Arab parties had offered Hamas money in return for the soldier.

    The Hamas leader expressed concern over the recent unrest in Iran, but said he was confident that Teheran would continue to support his movement. “We are certainly not worried about our relations with Iran or the support that the Iranians give us,” he said. “It’s no secret that Iran is one of many Arab and Islamic parties that have been supporting Hamas.”

    Meanwhile, a number of radical Islamic groups in the Gaza Strip threatened on Sunday to avenge the death of the Jund Ansar Allah members by attacking Hamas figures and institutions. One of the groups, Swords of Right, urged residents of the Gaza Strip to stay away from Hamas-run institutions and mosques because it was planning to attack them soon. Another group, Ansar Assuna (Companions of the Sunnis), said its members were planning a major attack in the Gaza Strip to express their solidarity with al-Qaida. The group is headed by Mahmoud Taleb, nicknamed Abu Mutasem, who has been wanted by Hamas for three years.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1249418620900&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  83. White House Acknowledges Unsolicited E-Mails on Health Care: The White House responds following complaints from people who said they received unsolicited e-mails on health care reform from the administration.

    FOXNews.com
    Sunday, August 16, 2009

    The White House for the first time Sunday somewhat acknowledged that people across the country received unsolicited e-mails last week on health care from the administration, suggesting the problem on third-party groups it claimed placed the recipients’ names on the distribution list.

    In a written statement released exclusively to FOX News, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said the White House hopes those who received the e-mails without signing up for them were not “inconvenienced” by the messages.

    “The White House e-mail list is made up of e-mail addresses obtained solely through the White House Web site. The White House doesn’t purchase, upload or merge from any other list, again, all e-mails come from the White House Web site as we have no interest in e-mailing anyone who does not want to receive an e-mail,” the statement said. “If an individual received the e-mail because someone else or a group signed them up or forwarded the e-mail, we hope they were not too inconvenienced.”

    The White House previously would not answer questions on how the e-mails landed unsolicited in so many inboxes. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Thursday said he couldn’t give an answer until he saw who received the e-mails because he doesn’t have “omnipotent clarity.”

    Yet the White House ignored repeated offers from FOX News to share with the administration such e-mail addresses, to help determine how the recipients ended up on the White House distribution list.

    “Further, we suggest that they unsubscribe from the list by clicking the link at the bottom of the e-mail or tell whomever forwarded it to them not to forward such information anymore. We are implementing measures to make subscribing to e-mails clearer, including preventing advocacy organizations from signing people up to our lists without their permission when they deliver petition signatures and other messages on individual’s behalf.””

    FOX News had received hundreds of e-mails from people who said they received an e-mail last week from senior adviser David Axelrod, even though they had never requested any communication from the White House.

    In the mass message, Axelrod defended President Obama’s health care proposals and asked supporters to help rebut criticism circulating on the Internet. Axelrod wrote that opponents are relying on tactics including “viral e-mails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies.” “So let’s start a chain of e-mail of our own,” he wrote, inviting supporters to forward his message countering claims that Obama’s plans would lead to rationing, encourage euthanasia or deplete veterans’ health care.

    But many people who thought they were not on any distribution list received the message directly from the White House, leading to accusations that the Obama administration was effectively spamming them. “It’s not a function of the White House to get somebody’s e-mail address,” said Utah resident Lou Porta. Porta, a self-described conservative Republican, said he received Axelrod’s e-mail even though he’s never accessed the White House Web site or asked for any communication from it on any topic.

    The Axelrod e-mail is just the latest move by the White House to raise privacy questions. The White House earlier drew criticism for asking the public to send in “fishy” information on health care reform they receive via e-mail or find on the Internet. Critics worried how the White House would use that information and accused the administration of playing “big brother.”

    Gibbs rejected the accusations and said the White House was not compiling a list of names.

    FOX News’ Major Garrett contributed to this report.

    foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/16/white-house-e-mail/

  84. Janh, the article you just posted reminds me why I have the opinion that their us no use in befriending the Hamas leaders, they can’t even get along with each other, much less anyone else.
    Why not the tough talk to them as well as NK. Its cause Bambi is a muslim.

  85. What is this??
    Mexican Army takes over customs operations on US border

    Aug 16 08:10 PM US/Eastern
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    The Mexican Army on Saturday took control of customs at the busy border with the United States, as federal authorities pulled their agents off the job, a government official told AFP.

  86. Won’t Get Fooled Again
    ——The Who

    We’ll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgment of all wrong
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    And I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again

    Change it had to come
    We knew it all along
    We were liberated from the fall that’s all
    But the world looks just the same
    And history ain’t changed
    ‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    And I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    I’ll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    For I know that the hypnotized never lie

    Do ya?

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss

  87. Here it is Hawaii turns 50 this week and they are NOT celebrating, it seems they think the US forced them to join the union. Alaska also turned 50 and they celebrated with fireworks and everything.
    Isn’t that just like comparing Obama to Palin. One hates America and the other loves America. LOL!!

  88. “The president has a zenlike quality. Rahm is a pile driver.” DAVID AXELROD President Obama’s senior adviser

    (Chicago speak, Obama: “Don’t blame me. It’s NOT my fault!”)

    WASHINGTON — As White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel was the one to bring the hammer down on Sidney Blumenthal.

    David Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett with Rahm Emanuel, who seems as if he is also political, legislative and communications director.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton wanted to hire Mr. Blumenthal, a loyal confidant who had helped her promote the idea of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” more than a decade ago. But President Obama’s campaign veterans still blamed him for spreading harsh attacks against their candidate in the primary showdown with Mrs. Clinton last year.

    So Mr. Emanuel talked with Mrs. Clinton, said Democrats informed about the situation, and explained that bringing Mr. Blumenthal on board was a no-go. The bad blood among his colleagues was too deep, and the last thing the administration needed, he concluded, was dissension and drama in the ranks. In short, Mr. Blumenthal was out.

    Perhaps nothing illustrates how far Mr. Emanuel has come than that conversation last month. Sixteen years ago, it was Mrs. Clinton, then first lady, who helped have Mr. Emanuel demoted as a senior official in Bill Clinton’s White House after he ruffled feathers with his aggressive style. Now all these years later, it is Mr. Emanuel telling Mrs. Clinton what she cannot do as a member of the cabinet.

    Seven months after moving into his office in the West Wing, Mr. Emanuel is emerging as perhaps the most influential White House chief of staff in a generation. But with his prominence in almost everything important going on in Washington comes a high degree of risk.

    As the principal author of Mr. Obama’s do-everything-at-once strategy, he stands to become a figure of consequence in his own right if the administration stabilizes the economy and financial markets, overhauls the health care system and winds down one war while successfully prosecuting another.

    If things do not go well — and right now Mr. Obama’s political popularity is declining, his health care legislation is under conservative assault, the budget deficit is at an eye-popping level and Afghanistan remains volatile — it is Mr. Emanuel whose job will be on the line before Mr. Obama’s.

    “He’s about to be tested; he’s spinning a lot of plates over there and he breaks a lot of china,” said Joel Johnson, a close friend and fellow veteran official of the Clinton White House. “They’ve had some good success early on, but they’ve got a number of major pieces of the agenda in the queue, and it’s going to be really difficult.”

    The caricature of Mr. Emanuel as a profanity-spewing operative has given way to a more nuanced view: as a profanity-spewing operative with a keen understanding of how to employ power on behalf of a new president with relatively little experience in Washington.

    Although relentlessly deferential to the president, Mr. Emanuel is clearly more chief than staff. While some predecessors husbanded their authority, lest it be diluted, friends said he believed the more someone used power, the more power that person had.

    He knows how to pull all the levers of influence in Washington — raising money, mobilizing interest groups and harvesting the latest policy ideas from research groups. At the same time, his relentless campaign-style approach sometimes leaves some colleagues worried they spend too much time reacting to events.

    At times, it seems as if Mr. Emanuel is White House chief of staff, political director, legislative director and communications director all rolled into one. He has fingers in almost every decision, like who gets invited to social events at the White House and how to shape economic and foreign policy.

    He carries a notecard in his pocket with a list of things to accomplish and marks them off obsessively. He requires cabinet secretaries and all West Wing departments to submit written reports each week and returns them with terse notes in the margins.

    As negotiations intensified on health care recently, he was a constant presence on Capitol Hill — one day alone, he was there 8.5 hours before returning to the White House to tend to other duties.

    “He can juggle 20 or 25 things in one day, in part by delegating and in part by picking only the things that matter,” said Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, a Republican congressman recruited by Mr. Emanuel to serve in the cabinet.

    A Frantic Pace

    Where Mr. Obama is known for cool detachment, Mr. Emanuel presses until the breaking point, then presses some more. “The president has a zenlike quality,” said Mr. Obama’s senior adviser, David Axelrod. “Rahm is a pile driver.”

    Attention has focused on Mr. Emanuel’s larger-than-life personality, but it is his operating style that matters more to Mr. Obama at this crucial juncture. What comes through in interviews with roughly 60 people in the White House, on Capitol Hill and around Washington is an intense engagement built on a series of testosterone-driven aphorisms:

    “Put points on the board.”

    “In politics, you’re either pitching or catching.”

    “A man never stands as tall as when he is on all fours kissing” rear ends.

    In other words, take what victories you can, stay on the offensive and do not be afraid to stroke big egos to advance the president’s agenda.

    very much more at link:

    nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/politics/16emanuel.html?_r=1&hp

    I can only wonder if Emanuel’s head will remain intact when the sh*t hits the fan better than his other wayward appendages.

  89. (cont.. from above)

    “Mr. Emanuel presides over a White House where people are defined by whether they went through the fires of the campaign. He did not. When Mr. Obama invited longtime aides like Mr. Axelrod and Robert Gibbs, the press secretary, to Camp David recently, Mr. Emanuel was not included.”

    The grand pseudo overachiever archetype who thinks he can make himself indispensable to the WH.

    “Mr. Emanuel’s hand could be seen in many fights Mr. Obama has won, including the economic stimulus package, the bank bailout and the budget bill, which passed the House by a wider majority than any in 10 years.”

    ” When Mr. Obama decided to eliminate the F-22 fighter jet, Mr. Emanuel called his old friend William M. Daley, a former commerce secretary, to ask him to generate an audience in Chicago for Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates to announce the move.”

    “Then Mr. Emanuel called more than 20 members of Congress. “He’s been so good to me, when he said, ‘We need you on this,’ I said fine,” recalled a Democratic senator who asked not to be identified describing a private conversation.”

    With this admission, it’s Emanuel who’s running Congressional Democrats, seconded by the Pelosi/Reid Team.

    “Mr. Emanuel still trades on a reputation sealed years ago as a ferocious operative, a reputation that, by most accounts, is dated. While he remains a tough, foul-mouthed scrapper, he is more likely these days to give a dog dish to a senator who got a new puppy (as he did to Kent Conrad this summer) than send a dead fish to an enemy (as he did two decades ago as a brash young campaign aide).”

    Emanuel may be surprised to learn the people of Tonga customarily eat their Pit Bull dogs as regular dietary fare.

    ““He’ll smile and at the same time he flips you the bird,” Mr. Issa said. “The best way to describe Rahm is that he’s a brass-knuckle Chicago politician.”

    “To say he has inserted himself into the heart of (health care) negotiations with Congress might understate it. When Mr. Obama spoke with Congressional leaders last month to get an update on health care before heading overseas, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, asked, “But Rahm is going to stay here, right?”

    There it is: Harry Reid is nothing more than floating deadwood in the Democratic Party.

    “Mr. Emanuel is more involved in domestic and foreign policy than outsiders realize, colleagues said. After Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner stumbled in rolling out a new banking policy, Mr. Obama told Mr. Emanuel to step in, and he met for an hour each day with the economic team to develop a workable policy.”

    Rahm, the ballet dancing control freak will never to sustain this pace for another 3.5 long years. It will be a contest to see who burns out first- Rahm or the Congress, who by now are showing signs of RF. Rahm Fatigue.

    All Over the Map For you JanH… now you know where to direct your anger,

    “In national security, officials said Mr. Emanuel had been a player on issues central to the Obama presidency — Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, the Middle East and, to some extent, Iraq and Russia. He has been a force behind the administration’s opposition to Israeli settlement expansion, drawing fire from some Israel supporters.”

    rather than continuing on with graphs of interest, taking a minute or two to click the link. It is well worth the read helping to understand the ADD whackiness of Obama’s policies..

    nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/politics/16emanuel.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1&hp

  90. I read somewhere a few weeks back that Obama has never convened at cabinet meeting. I wonder if that is true?? I have never seen pics if he has. Usually you see the whole cabinet around a large desk, but not in the administration. My guess is that there are others running it or that there are so many czars that they couldn’t get into one room, let alone one desk!

  91. Mrs. Smith,

    Hillary was right to push to have Emanuel demoted way back during Bill’s tenure. He keeps popping back up like a bad penny/or bambi just attracts the thugs of politics to his side. At any rate, he is no friend to Israel or Jews anywhere.

  92. That Nytimes article, they are trying to shield Obama from the health care fiasco. It is all Rahm’s fault.

    Cool detachment, Zenlike quality,… euphemistically speaking of course (for lazy, inexperienced, deer caught in the headlights, President in Name Only).

  93. Word gets around as obama’s failures continue to grow…

    ————————–

    Grim prognosis forces Obama retreat on healthcare

    Brad Norington,
    August 18, 2009
    The Australian

    BARACK Obama is retreating from ambitious plans to reform the US healthcare system, as the White House signals his much-vaunted proposal for a government run health insurance scheme is to be dumped.

    The US President is being forced to compromise because of the hard reality that he cannot secure enough Senate votes to back his preferred “public option” for 46 million uninsured Americans.

    But the backdown also reflects Mr Obama’s failure to regain authority in a fierce debate in which opponents have successfully fuelled public fears about government control and rationing of medical services.

    The shift comes after Mr Obama attempted to claw back public support at three town hall rallies over the past week.

    Kathleen Sebelius, the Health and Human Services Secretary in Mr Obama’s cabinet, said yesterday that a taxpayer-funded insurer was “not the essential element” of the administration’s overhaul of health. Ms Sebelius instead promoted non-profit co-operatives as an alternative that could achieve the White House’s stated objective of providing competition for private health insurance companies. “I think there will be a competitor to private insurers,” she told CNN. “That’s really the essential part … you don’t turn over the whole new market place to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing.”

    The shift was echoed by the President’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, who said the “bottom line” for Mr Obama was choice and competition.

    Compromise at this point is a significant setback for the President after he campaigned on the need for publicly funded universal health in last year’s election, and made it the cornerstone of his first-term domestic policy agenda. Politically, the White House is expected to try to salvage a win by taking credit for a health package that offers wider insurance than the status quo and seeks to stem a costs blowout.

    But Mr Obama’s retreat will leave many liberal Democrats disappointed, to the point where some members of congress could be unwilling to vote for reforms unless they contain a taxpayer-funded option. The health committee of the house has already endorsed a bill that contains Mr Obama’s so-called public option.

    His obstacle is the Senate where, despite having a nominal 60-vote majority, including two independents, he faces resistance from conservative Democrats who fear a taxpayer-subsidised scheme would only add to a record deficit budget. Democrat senator Kent Conrad, who chairs the US Senate’s budget committee, said yesterday that a government-run scheme never had enough votes to pass. Senator Conrad, an advocate of co-ops to compete with private health funds, said on Fox: “To continue to chase that rabbit I think is just a wasted effort.” Under the co-op model promoted by Senator Conrad, non-profit co-operatives owned by consumers would offer insurance in competition with private companies. But they would still be likely to receive sponsorship from the government with an initial injection of up to $US4 billion ($4.87bn).

    Mr Obama would also seek to have health legislation include tighter rules for health funds to make them more “accountable”, insisting they could not refuse to insure people with pre-existing conditions or drop people when they become ill, as happens now.

    One of the most disappointed Democrats is likely to be Edward Kennedy, who has been ill with a brain tumour and absent from Capitol Hill. He had sponsored one health bill in circulation that includes a public option, after spending a career campaigning for universal healthcare. Without Senator Kennedy’s presence in the chamber, the Democrats also fall one vote short of 60 required to avoid a filibuster that could force indefinite delays on disputed legislation.

    In an opinion piece published in The New York Times yesterday, Mr Obama again turned his political attack on private insurance companies, accusing them of discriminating against 12 million Americans in the past three years because they had pre-existing illnesses or conditions.

    theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25942829-2703,00.html

  94. JanH Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Yes, Jan. Hillary definitely would have picked up Mr. Important’s propensity for thuggishness once you give him a little power and authority.

    pm317…

    I should add just to clarify my take on Rham’s position. He is the messenger “boy” dictating policy as authorized by The Soros, Think Tank, “The Center for American Progress.”

    Emanuel is pretending he is the brain behind instructing the 33 Czars and Cabinet members and the Fed (Geithner) of Obama’s policy.

    When in fact, theres NO-WAY Rahm is mentally gymnastically capable of juggling 10-20 issues with directives and solutions all by himself.

    Soros has teams of workers specifically designated for each and every issue Obama is spinning. Environmental Team, Climate Change Team, Health Care Team, Finance Team,
    Auto Industry Team, Energy Team etc…

    Who does Emanuel think he is anyway? Bill or Hillary Clinton?

    The Think Tank Link: h…w…. americanprogressaction.org/

  95. Aug 17 2009, 12:14 pm by Chris Good

    Obama’s Approval Average Creeps Ever Lower…

    President Obama’s approval ratings inched down again today; his average approval in major polls is now 50.9 percent (vs. 44.7 percent who disapprove), continuing his gradual slide from the astronomical 84 percent approval CNN reported two days before his inauguration. There’s a predictable factor going on here: the latest poll was released today by Rasmussen, which, it’s been shown, tracks Obama’s approval consistently lower than other polls. Today, it put him at 49 percent approve/ 50 percent disapprove–slightly better, in fact, than its previous numbers.

    We sort of have to accept this symptom of averaging Rasmussen in, as Gallup’s higher-than-average numbers offset the slight and periodic Rasmussen Dip. Gallup’s last poll, released over the weekend, had Obama at 54 percent approval; they’ll come out with another poll in a few days, and his average will probably go back up by a percentage point or so.

    (Note: people still dig Obama’s personality: his favorability is at 57.1 percent.)

    If you believe that enacting an agenda as president involves selling off political capital, and if we spot Obama the circa-one-point gain that a new Gallup poll will probably give him, that leaves him with 1.7 percentage points to go before he becomes an unpopular president, if pushing forward with health care is really contributing to the slide.

    It’s not 1.7 percentage points of capital left in the tank: Obama has said he’d be willing to get bounced from the White House after one term if it meant getting big reforms passed in health care and energy. But, is it realistic that a president with a sub-50-percent approval rating can push those reforms through? And are we close enough to passing health care that 1.7 points will do the trick?

    politics.theatlantic.com/2009/08/obamas_approval_average_creeps_ever_lower.php

  96. With Obama in office, Fox News finds its stride

    By DAVID BAUDER (AP)

    NEW YORK — South Carolina Republican Bob Inglis, frustrated by a restive crowd at a recent forum to discuss health care reform, suggested people turn off the TV when Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck came on.

    Big mistake.

    Judging by the escalating boos and catcalls, squirting lighter fluid on burning coals would have been wiser. Beck is a hero to many people who are not buying the Age of Obama, and so is Fox. The network was already on pace for its best ratings year even before the health care debate sent viewership jumping during a traditionally slow month for news.

    How emboldened is Fox? After President Barack Obama’s press secretary Robert Gibbs warned against “cable news” derailing health care plans, Bill O’Reilly assumed he was referring to Fox and seemed ready for a fight. “Who’s that going to help?” O’Reilly said. “Us, that’s who. Our ratings are already soaring because we don’t denigrate the protesters, the way a lot of other TV news organizations do. They’re dying. We’re on fire.”

    Fox’s strong year hasn’t come without controversy. Some critics worry about overheated rhetoric — Beck has called Obama a racist and joked about poisoning House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — and suggest Fox has helped lead, instead of just follow, the president’s opponents.

    Fox’s viewership is up 11 percent over last year, according to Nielsen Media Research. CNN and MSNBC, which benefited from interest in the campaign last year, are down. O’Reilly, who already had cable news’ most popular show, Beck and Sean Hannity lead the way. The ratings expose as naive anyone who believed that the dawn of a Democratic government in Washington would hurt Fox.

    “Fox is much more firmly established than it has ever been,” said Eric Burns, former host of Fox’s “News Watch” media criticism show. “It has been in existence for 13 years. It knows its base. And it knows its base is bigger than CNN or MSNBC.”

    Since Fox is already the network of choice for conservatives, the ratings indicate it must be drawing in more moderates and even liberals, said Bernard Goldberg, best-selling author of “A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (and Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media” and other books that criticize liberal media bias. The poor economy and the administration’s ambitious agenda have made people anxious and searching for a media outlet that understands them, he said.

    Roughly three times as many Republicans said in a June survey that they regularly get news from Fox, as opposed to CNN or MSNBC, reported the Pew Research Center. The three networks had about the same number of Independent followers, and Fox had more Democratic followers than CNN and MSNBC had GOP fans.

    Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity, a group that is busing demonstrators across the country to health care forums held by members of Congress, said other news organizations seem more interested in who is helping to organize protests. Fox doesn’t ignore the protesters’ concerns, he said. “Is Fox more critical of Obama than MSNBC? Of course,” Phillips said. “But when you look at what is happening, Fox is actually covering it.”

    Fox’s critics question its balance. Fox aired comments from 63 opponents of health care reform on Monday and Tuesday, and only 10 supporters, the liberal media watchdog Media Matters for America said. Fox also cut away from Obama’s New Hampshire town hall after only two questions, saying it would return if it got contentious. It didn’t. Some advertisers are boycotting Beck because of his remarks about the president, although Fox quickly distanced itself with a statement by network executive Bill Shine saying it was Beck’s opinion, not Fox’s.

    During this spring’s anti-tax “tea party” demonstrations, Goldberg said he found many networks’ coverage disgraceful. But he was also critical of Fox, which he said “didn’t simply cover the tea parties, they championed them.” O’Reilly’s show (where Goldberg is a frequent guest) has covered the health care meetings fairly, he said. But he said others on Fox are encouraging the incivility of protesters. A call and e-mail to Fox for comment were not immediately returned. Fox also declined to make an executive available to be interviewed for this story.

    “Some liberals say we intentionally glorify the protesters,” O’Reilly said on his show last week. “That doesn’t happen here. We’ve said there’s no doubt that some of the dissent is organized by people who don’t like President Obama. That’s a fact — and we’ve reported it.”

    The addition of Beck and dropping of Hannity’s liberal co-host Alan Colmes has increased anti-Obama time on Fox. To a degree, MSNBC’s left turn provides Fox with cover; opinionated cable news is that much more accepted.

    Even if outnumbered, opposing voices are more likely heard in Fox’s prime-time than on MSNBC’s. Fox has also largely ignored the more extreme Obama opponents who question whether the president was born in the United States. Just from the e-mails he got at “News Watch,” Burns, the former “News Watch” host, said he understands the devotion of Fox’s fans. Many Fox fans feel their point of view wasn’t expressed on TV, and will be forever grateful to someone who does. The brand loyalty “exceeds the loyalty, I’ll bet, to any other network except maybe ESPN to sports fans,” he said.

    With Obama in office, he’s bullish about Fox’s future.

    “They’ve got it made,” Burns said. “They’ve got it made for four years.”

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izKEpa94gvJhjqp4JKJe4LE8hMtgD9A488QO1

  97. This article coincides with my 12:34pm submission:

    Apologies for the length of this article. Well worth reading imo-

    It’s also a good idea to view the Soros, Center for American Progress site…

    see if you recognize any of the names of the orgs at CAP involved in this Heath care Fiasco.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Some Obama Promises Must Wait

    SOME? (my emphasis)

    President Obama sounded a bit like a weary air traffic controller on Aug. 10, when he was quizzed during a three-way summit with leaders from Mexico and Canada about a promised overhaul of U.S. immigration laws.

    “I’ve got a lot on my plate, and it’s very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don’t all just crash at the same time,” the president said in response to a reporter’s question.

    While Obama said he expects Congress to send draft legislation his way later this year, the issue, at least for the moment, has been relegated to the back burner.

    Triage is a necessity in an administration confronted by a deep recession, with a president who is simultaneously shepherding big initiatives addressing health care, climate change, education and financial regulation.

    Obama and his aides understand there is only so much bandwidth to accommodate these efforts — and to complete work on fiscal 2010 spending bills and second-tier issues, such as a proposed rewrite of the rules for student lending.

    But that means a large number of political promises Obama made during his historic campaign have been pushed to the back of the agenda. Most, in fact. The PolitiFact.com Web site, which compiled a list of 515 Obama pledges, lists 374 under the category of “no action.”

    To be sure, Obama has begun to make good on some of his most prominent promises.

    Just days after he was sworn in, he issued orders to shut the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and limit harsh interrogation methods. Initiatives to overturn federal funding curbs on embryonic stem cell research, deliver a major address to the Islamic world and stem mortgage foreclosures, to cite just three others, followed suit.

    Many other high-profile issues have been deferred, either because they involve time-consuming negotiations with Congress or because Obama simply doesn’t want to expend the political capital. Here are five that are not likely to be acted on before year’s end:

    Revise ‘No Child Left Behind’ The 2002 education law (PL 107-110) was passed with bipartisan fanfare and promoted by former President George W. Bush as one of his most important domestic policy achievements. But its focus on standardized testing as the measure of achievement and the way it expanded the federal government’s role into what has been traditionally a local issue prompted heated calls for revision.

    During his campaign, Obama said he would overhaul the law “so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them” and pledged to find innovative ways to recruit and reward good teachers.

    However, a planned reauthorization has been crowded out by other domestic priorities, particularly Obama’s push to retool the U.S. health care system, making it unlikely that a planned reauthorization will move quickly. Education Secretary Arne Duncan wants to complete a nationwide listening tour before submitting a proposal to Congress. His department is also overseeing the expenditure of about $100 billion in new funding.

    Confronting China Obama stated last year that China’s rise posed one of the most important foreign policy challenges to the United States in the coming decade. He promised to discourage China from manipulating its currency, the yuan, to keep the prices of its goods cheap and generate trade surpluses. And he pledged to discourage China’s support for genocidal and repressive regimes in Sudan, Burma, Iran and Zimbabwe.

    Though Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner said during his confirmation hearing that the administration would act “aggressively” using “all the diplomatic avenues” to change China’s currency practices, the White House has stopped short of making a formal declaration to Congress that China is manipulating the yuan to gain an unfair trade advantage. Such a move could spark punitive action and countermeasures from China.

    Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao instead launched a “strategic and economic dialogue” in April. Experts such as Brookings Institution visiting fellow Dennis C. Wilder sense there is more continuity than change in the administration’s approach to engaging China — characterized by non-ideological dialogue that stresses positive areas for cooperation.

    One difference is the administration’s elevation of climate change to a top-tier issue. The administration understands that efforts to pass climate change legislation in Congress hinge, in part, on getting China to do its part in reducing the global carbon footprint.

    Fully Funding Veterans’ Programs Obama, who as a senator served on the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, spoke during the campaign about the “sacred trust to care for our nation’s veterans” and complained about years of chronic underfunding of the Veterans Administration medical care system.

    He pledged to fully fund the VA and make the VA budget must-pass legislation.

    But it’s Congress that is doing most of the heavy lifting to make the promise reality. The House in June passed a measure (HR 1016) that would put veterans’ health care programs on a two-year budget cycle and make funding more predictable. The VA would receive $108.9 billion, about 15 percent more than in fiscal 2009 (PL 110-329) and equal to President Obama’s fiscal 2010 budget request.

    Once money is released, the VA would detail to Congress any impediments to estimating future budgetary needs. The Office of Management and Budget would then request advance funding a year ahead of time and make the VA submit to Congress detailed explanations of those spending figures. The agency then would have to update Congress by July 31 of each year on whether the advance appropriations would be sufficient to meet the department’s needs.

    This would give the VA more certainty, but not as much as Obama pledged.

    Rebuilding the Gulf Coast During the campaign, Obama said he would “keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast” and take steps to prevent failures in emergency planning and response seen during Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

    Specifically, Obama would ensure New Orleans has a levee and pumping system to protect the city against a 100-year storm by 2011, free up rebuilding funds that had been allocated but not released and to rebuild hospitals and schools.

    Much of the work remains on the drawing boards. The administration got into a tussle with Sen. David Vitter, R-La., after he briefly stalled the nomination of Craig Fugate to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency because new federal flood maps included areas that were not previously designated flood zones, including much of Louisiana’s Cameron Parish, Grand Isle, and Lafourche Parish.

    Federal regulations prohibit FEMA recovery funds from being used for rebuilding in areas designated as “V-Zones” because of their risk for future flooding.

    An August 2009 report from the Brookings Metropolitan Policy Program concludes the region still faces major challenges due to blight, unaffordable housing and vulnerable flood protection.

    Though New Orleans’ economy is weathering the recession fairly well, the report says some districts continue to have high numbers of vacant and blighted residences, and that essential service workers can’t afford fair market rents. And while 16 additional schools opened in the New Orleans area in the previous 12 months, the entire area remains vulnerable to storm-related flooding. A storm-surge protection system now being built by the Army Corps of Engineers would not adequately protect against another storm of Katrina’s magnitude, the report states.

    Importing Prescription Drugs In spite of its overwhelming focus on overhauling the health care system, the administration has been silent on one of Obama’s signature health care promises: allowing consumers to import drugs made in FDA-approved facilities in countries where they are often sold for less.

    During the campaign, Obama charged that some drugmakers were exploiting Americans by charging premiums of as much as 67 percent higher than the prices they charge for the same medicines in Europe and Canada.

    But Obama’s administration has since cut a deal with the pharmaceutical industry in which drugmakers promised to provide $80 billion in discounts to seniors and the government over 10 years to help pay the cost of a health system overhaul.

    Ironically, Obama’s 2008 presidential opponent, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., offered an amendment during debate on a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee health plan that would have written such an importation provision into law. Democrats helped defeat it by a 10-12 vote, arguing that allowing access to the cheaper drugs from abroad was potentially dangerous in light of all the hazards Americans have faced in recent months from risky imported products.

    h…. news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20090817/pl_cq_politics/politics3191976;_ylt=Aseb1WZycBJ34HMFpQK6HLdn.6F4;_ylu=X3oDMTJpMGs1NGtiBGFzc2V0A2NxLzIwMDkwODE3L3BvbGl0aWNzMzE5MTk3NgRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawN0cmlhZ2Vzb21lb2I-

  98. PICKING REGRET-ME-NOTS

    Only seven months after planting, regret-me-nots are ripe for the picking.

    Another example of the “Third Bush Term”, pushing charter schools, endless testing, and “merit pay” that rewards teachers in affluent districts whose students test well.

    Some money quotes from the NY Times front pager today:

    “The administration’s stance has caught by surprise educators and officials who had hoped that Mr. Obama’s calls during the campaign for an overhaul of the No Child law would mean a reduced federal role and less reliance on standardized testing.”

    “Much of the grumbling is from educators who say they supported Mr. Obama’s candidacy. “I am a public school teacher who vehemently wanted to vote for a president who would save us from No Child Left Behind,” Diane Aoki of Kealakekua, Hawaii, wrote to the department. But linking test scores to teacher evaluations, Ms. Aoki said, means “the potential is there for the test frenzy to get worse than it is under No Child Left Behind.”

    nytimes.com/2009/08/17/education/17educ.html?_r=1&ref=politics

    Dangling Money, Obama Pushes Education Shift
    ================================
    By SAM DILLON
    Published: August 16, 2009

    Holding out billions of dollars as a potential windfall, the Obama administration is persuading state after state to rewrite education laws to open the door to more charter schools and expand the use of student test scores for judging teachers.

    That aggressive use of economic stimulus money by Education Secretary Arne Duncan is provoking heated debates over the uses of standardized testing and the proper federal role in education, issues that flared frequently during President George W. Bush’s enforcement of his signature education law, called No Child Left Behind.

    A recent case is California, where legislative leaders are vowing to do anything necessary, including rewriting a law that prohibits the use of student scores in teacher evaluations, to ensure that the state is eligible for a chunk of the $4.3 billion the federal Education Department will soon award to a dozen or so states. The law had strong backing from the state teachers union.

    Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Tennessee and several other states have moved to bring their laws or policies into line with President Obama’s school improvement agenda.

    The administration’s stance has caught by surprise educators and officials who had hoped that Mr. Obama’s calls during the campaign for an overhaul of the No Child law would mean a reduced federal role and less reliance on standardized testing. The law requires schools to bring all students to proficiency in reading and math by 2014 and penalizes those that do not meet annual goals.

    The proposed rules make testing an even more powerful factor in schools by extending the use of scores to teacher evaluations. The proposed rules for the $4.3 billion in grants, which the administration calls the Race to the Top, require states to show they are fostering innovation, improving achievement, raising standards, recruiting effective teachers, turning around failed schools and building data systems.

    Just to be eligible to apply, a state must have no “barriers to linking data on student achievement or student growth to teachers and principals for the purpose of teacher and principal evaluation,” the rules say.

    While many educators and advocates support the administration, there has also been an outpouring of complaints, including in comments on the rules filed with the Education Department. (The department will issue final rules after the comment period ends Aug. 28.)

    “The proposed regulations are overly burdensome,” Robert P. Grimesey, superintendent of the Orange County Public Schools in Virginia, said in written comments. “They give the impression that stimulus funds provide the federal government with unbridled capacity to impose bureaucratic demands.”

    Much of the grumbling is from educators who say they supported Mr. Obama’s candidacy.

    “I am a public school teacher who vehemently wanted to vote for a president who would save us from No Child Left Behind,” Diane Aoki of Kealakekua, Hawaii, wrote to the department. But linking test scores to teacher evaluations, Ms. Aoki said, means “the potential is there for the test frenzy to get worse than it is under No Child Left Behind.”
    An Education Department spokesman, Peter Cunningham, said, “There’s a healthy debate around this grand application, which is what we were hoping for.”

    “We’re mindful of all the criticisms about federal overreaching, about too much testing, of all the complaints about No Child Left Behind,” Mr. Cunningham said. “These complaints come up all the time in conversations about all our programs, not just this one, with education officials across the country. The context that No Child has generated is the context that we have to live with.”

    The New Teacher Project, a nonprofit group, published a report this month handicapping states’ chances. Florida and Louisiana, it said, were “highly competitive,” New Jersey and others were “competitive,” and Connecticut was “somewhat competitive.” California, New York and Wisconsin, the report said, were not eligible because of state laws limiting the use of achievement data in teacher evaluation.

    Lawmakers and officials in California and Wisconsin are debating whether to make legislative changes.

    In New York, officials are pushing back against suggestions that the state is ineligible. Merryl H. Tisch, chancellor of the Board of Regents, said Friday that because the law banned the use of student data in evaluating teachers only for tenure decisions, New York should be eligible.

    Also, Dr. Tisch said, the state law is scheduled to expire in June 2010, and “there is no appetite to renew that law.”

    Not everyone is upset with the administration’s tactics.
    “We like the way the administration is using Race to the Top to send a message about its priorities,” said Joe Williams, executive director of Democrats for Education Reform. “We like that it’s gotten states to take a close look at their laws and practices.”

    Diane Ravitch, an education historian at New York University, disagreed. “The Department of Education should respect the requirements of federalism and look to states to offer their best ideas rather than mandating policies that the current administration likes,” Dr. Ravitch said in comments filed with the department.

    An early sign that the promise of education financing could induce state changes came after several blunt statements by Mr. Duncan this spring that states limiting the growth of charter schools would have trouble getting an award.
    Lawmakers in Illinois, Louisiana, Tennessee and several other states responded by lifting caps on the numbers of charter schools or by expanding the pool of students eligible to attend them. Charter schools are publicly financed, but they are managed by groups separate from school districts and are largely free from traditional school work rules.

    In Indiana, lawmakers beat back an effort to impose a moratorium on new charters and, after Mr. Duncan warned that states prohibiting the use of test data in teacher evaluations would be ineligible for awards, revoked such a prohibition.

    Union lobbying was crucial in passing such laws. The two national unions have not formally commented on the proposed rules. They have opposed using test scores in evaluations, saying misuse of ambiguous data could lead to unfair dismissals.

    California got attention in June when Mr. Duncan noted in a speech that it was among states that had created “a firewall between students and teacher data.”

    “In California, they have 300,000 teachers,” he said. The top 10 percent are the “best in the world,” he said, the bottom 10 percent, “should probably find another profession, yet no one in California can tell you which teacher is in which category.”

    “Something is wrong with that picture,” he said.
    In response, the state’s superintendent of public instruction, board of education president and education secretary jointly wrote to Mr. Duncan saying his concerns were “based on a misunderstanding.”

    California’s law, they argued, bars state officials from using test results to evaluate teachers but does not block local districts from doing so. Only a few do.

    State Senator Gloria Romero, a Democrat and chairwoman of the Senate Education Committee, said in an interview that because “disagreement continues” between the state and Obama officials, she was drafting legislation to clarify the law. Ms. Romero has scheduled a hearing on the issue for Aug. 26.

    “We’ll do everything in our power,” she said, “to make sure that California is in compliance with the expectations of the Obama administration.”

  99. Jan, remember when Obama said: “I’ll be Ready to Lead On Day ONE”?

    And Donna Brazile echoing, “He’ll be ready to lead on day one!”

    Yep, Obama was seen salivating on Jan 19th.. when he gave himself permission to smoke a cigarette in anticipation of looting the Treasury for Bank Bailouts and appointing himself CEO of the Auto industry.

  100. BREAKING:

    August 16, 2009

    For immediate release:

    Next week, Cindy Sheehan will join other like-minded peace activists to have a presence near the expensive resort on Martha’s Vineyard where President Obama will be vacationing the week of August 23-30.

    From her home in California, Ms. Sheehan released this statement:

    “There are several things that we wish to accomplish with this protest on Martha’s Vineyard.
    First of all, no good social or economic change will come about with the continuation or escalation of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. We simply can’t afford to continue this tragically expensive foreign policy.

    Secondly, we as a movement need to continue calling for an immediate end to the occupations even when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office. There is still no Noble Cause no matter how we examine the policies.

    Thirdly, the body bags aren’t taking a vacation and as the US led violence surges in Afghanistan and Pakistan, so are the needless deaths on every side.

    And, finally, if the right-wing can force the government to drop any kind of public option or government supported health care, then we need to exert the same kind of pressure to force a speedy end to the occupations.”

    Cindy Sheehan will arrive on the Vineyard on Tuesday, August 25th.

    For more information, or to request an interview with Cindy Sheehan please contact:

    Laurie Dobson
    lauriegdobson@yahoo.com
    (207) 604-8988

  101. “the body bags aren’t taking a vacation”

    ——————————

    The stark and very sad truth.

  102. “I’ve got a lot on my plate, and it’s very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don’t all just crash at the same time,” the president said in response to a reporter’s question.”

    —–

    Did that zero mean “clash”? or his subconscious really did it for him to say “crash”!!!!!!

    🙂

  103. “We’re mindful of all the criticisms about federal overreaching”

    ———————————-

    I doubt it.

  104. repost from Aug 16, 7:42pm..

    If you get a minute admin.. please embed this video.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I was intent on nominating this video for a Hall of Shame award as “The Best of Obama’s Bait and Switch Responses.” (You need to listen carefully how BO couches his response…)

    youtube.com/watch?v=kZmUzMtPLcE&feature=player_embedded

    Funny thing is… people applauding his remarks.

  105. Mrs. Smith Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Next week, Cindy Sheehan will join other like-minded peace activists to have a presence near the expensive resort on Martha’s Vineyard where President Obama will be vacationing the week of August 23-30.

    “There are several things that we wish to accomplish with this protest on Martha’s Vineyard.
    First of all, no good social or economic change will come about with the continuation or escalation of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. We simply can’t afford to continue this tragically expensive foreign policy.
    &&&&&

    Second, we heard that the appetizers at Le Chic Pheasant are to die for.

  106. rgb44hrc:

    Second, we heard that the appetizers at Le Chic Pheasant are to die for.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ve always liked Ted Danson and Mary Steenburgen. Secretly, I was hoping Carly Simon would do the entertaining… How dreamy is that? Then again, me wishing something like that means Larry David will show up unannounced giving Chelsea and Marc a gift certificate for $25 to the dry cleaners in his neighborhood.

    Larry would complain, why weren’t they smiling?

  107. Obama faces backlash over potential retreat on public healthcare option: US president’s healthcare provision is now likely to be run by private insurance companies

    Ewen MacAskill in Washington
    guardian.co.uk, Monday 17 August 2009

    Barack Obama faced a backlash from the left today after his administration signalled retreat over the introduction of a government-run national health plan.

    Progressives dubbed the move ‘treachery’ and ‘betrayal’.

    Obama will continue to push for reform this year but the new healthcare provision is now likely to be run by private insurance companies rather than by the federal government, which had been his preferred option.

    The apparent White House shift brought to the surface the divisions between Democrats over reform. Left-wingers expressed sadness and anger that Obama appeared to be backing away from the public option while party conservatives claimed that it had never been a realistic option anyway. The softening of the White House position comes after weeks of sustained, noisy and disruptive protests across the country against his health plan, much of it orchestrated by the right.

    Howard Dean, who chaired the Democratic party from 2005 to this year, today emerged as the most high-profile party member to voice concern about dropping the public option. Interviewed on TV network CBS, he said: “You can’t really have reform without a public option. If you don’t want to have the public option … just do a little insurance reform … and then we’ll tackle health reform another time. But let’s not pretend we’re doing reform without a public option.” Dean’s comments reflect the debate within the Democratic party between those who argue that Obama should not back down in the face of the Republican campaign and those who say that it is better to compromise – to get half of what they want rather than nothing.

    Obama’s healthcare plan, aimed at extending insurance coverage to 46 million Americans who at present have none, has produced one of the most divisive debates in the US since the Vietnam war. Obama, on a visit to Phoenix, Arizona, today was greeted by a crowd in the streets loudly expressing support or opposition to the healthcare plan, even though he was due to speak to military veterans about Iraq and Afghanistan. The softening by the Obama administration over the public option was signalled by the US health secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, who yesterday said it was “not the essential element” of the healthcare plan.

    The White House insisted that this did not amount to a change: Obama continued to think the public option was the best one but he had always been flexible about how to achieve his healthcare goals.

    The group Healthcare for America Now, which has been paying for ads in support of the Obama plan, today expressed its continued support for the public option. Jacki Schechner, a spokeswoman, said: “We believe – and the president continues to say – that a public health insurance option is the best way to inject true competition and choice into the marketplace.” The group’s blog reflected some of the liberal anger. One commenter, identifying herself as Mary, said the alternative appears to be public subsidies for insurance companies. “I feel literally sick over this betrayal,” she said.
    Healthcare for America Now has not given up the fight and today announced spending on more television ads targeting the states of members of Congress opposed to reform.

    House Democrats today insisted they will not drop the public provision in their bill, at least not in the short term. The Senate, where most of the opposition is coming from, has not yet produced a bill. After both chambers pass bills, the two get together for horsetrading to produce a common bill.

    Obama’s administration is likely to be judged on whether he can get a health bill on the statute books – he sees it as the centrepiece of his first term. He is to continue the fight throughout the remainder of this month and into next. Although he is off on holiday with his family to Martha’s Vineyard in New England next week, he is to break in to it to continue campaigning.

    One of Obama’s biggest problems is not the Republicans but conservatives in his own party, the so-called Blue Dog Democrats, opposed to the public option. One of them, Senator Kent Conrad from North Dakota, said on Fox News yesterday that the public option was never on the cards: “The fact of the matter is there are not the votes in the United States Senate for a public option. There never have been.”

    Instead, he proposed creation of cooperatives in which members could negotiate coverage with private insurance companies. But this leaves many liberals cold as they regard it as giving more money to insurance companies, detested for their high profits and patchy performance in paying out on claims.

    guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/healthcare-obama-public-option-reform

  108. August 17, 2009

    Author of Human Rights report on Israel supports terrorism

    Ethel C. Fenig

    Noah Pollak at Commentary Contentions has done outstanding work exposing the racism and bigotry of the grossly misnamed Human Rights Watch. Supposedly an objective organization documenting human rights abuses around the world, HRW is anything but. Its extensive focus on Israel is one-sided and highly critical, often issuing reports condemning the country for its actions without putting them in the proper context while ignoring Arab/Muslim words and actions against Israel in addition to the extensive human rights abuses in their own countries.

    This is an organization which receives extensive funding from Saudi Arabia where women aren’t allowed to drive, religions other than Islam are banned by law, where hangings are a national sport, and where hatred of Israel and Jews is freely and approvingly expressed. Billionaire investor/market manipulator and Israel basher George Soros is another deep pocketed generous HRW contributor.

    Just last week HRW’s Joe Stork, deputy director of HRW’s Middle East and North African section, authored a scathing report against Israel, charging Israel’s army murdered peaceful, white flag waving Arabs civilians during Israel’s incursion into Gaza last winter to stop daily rocket attacks against Israeli civilians. Israel has totally denied these unfounded accusations.

    Until a few days ago, when HRW admitted for the first time that oh by the way, this constant bombardment by Gazans against Israeli civilians isn’t really very nice, HRW has been conspicuously silent about these rocket attacks.

    And now this week Pollak has presented what he aptly describes as a “blockbuster article” by Ben-Dror Yemini from the Israeli paper Ma’ariv on the real Joe Stork.

    Joe Stork, a senior official in Human Rights Watch, which accuses the IDF of killing Palestinians who waved white flags, is a fanatical supporter of the elimination of Israel. He was a friend of Saddam, ruled out negotiations and supported the Munich Massacre, which “provided an important boost in morale among Palestinians.” (snip)

    Several times in the past, Stork has called for the destruction of Israel and is a veteran supporter of Palestinian terrorism. Already as a student, Stork was amongst the founders of a new radical leftist group, which was formed based on the claim that other leftist groups were not sufficiently critical of Israel and of the United States’ support of it. Already in 1976, Stork participated in a conference organized by Saddam Hussein which celebrated the first anniversary of the UN decision that equated Zionism with racism. Stork, needless to say, arrived at the conference as a prominent supporter of Palestinian terrorism and as an opponent to the existence of the State of Israel.

    He also labeled Palestinian violence against Israel as “revolutionary potential of the Palestinian masses”-language that was typical of fanatical Marxists.

    In articles which he authored during the 1970’s, Stork stated that he was against the very existence of Israel as an “imperialistic entity” and, to this end, provided counsel to Arab regimes on how to eliminate the Zionist regime.

    There’s much more at the link about Stork, including a statement of support for the Black September terrorists who murdered Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics:

    “Munich and similar actions cannot create or substitute for a mass revolutionary movement,” the statement said, “But we should comprehend the achievement of the Munich action…It has provided an important boost in morale among Palestinians in the camps.”

    Human Rights Watch should be relabeled a propaganda organization incapable of speaking the truth. And its reports should be ignored.

    americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/author_of_human_rights_report.html

  109. Obama has accepted to speak at a memorial for Cronkite next month which Bill has already accepted………….I guess he will be forced to talk to Bill whom he has ignored despite Bill doing everything he can to help this novice who stole the election from Hillary.

  110. jbstonesfan,

    He probably only agreed because he wants to take Bill down a peg and outshine him. Yep, Bill will speak without a teleprompter and obama will speak with…

  111. And Bill probably has a huge history with Mr. Cronkite. I would think Obama would have had very little contact with this great man. Should be interesting.

  112. SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM….WONDERFUL SPAM

    White House Passes Blame on Unsolicited Health Care E-Mails
    The White House suggests third-party groups are to blame for unsolicited health care e-mails.

    The White House for the first time Sunday seemed to acknowledge that people across the country received unsolicited e-mails from the administration last week about health care reform, suggesting the problem is with third-party groups that placed the recipients’ names on the distribution list.

    In a written statement released exclusively to FOX News, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said the White House hopes those who received the e-mails without signing up for them were not “inconvenienced” by the messages.

    “The White House e-mail list is made up of e-mail addresses obtained solely through the White House Web site. The White House doesn’t purchase, upload or merge from any other list, again, all e-mails come from the White House Web site as we have no interest in e-mailing anyone who does not want to receive an e-mail,” the statement said. “If an individual received the e-mail because someone else or a group signed them up or forwarded the e-mail, we hope they were not too inconvenienced.”

    The White House previously would not answer questions on how the e-mails landed unsolicited in so many inboxes. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Thursday said he couldn’t give an answer until he saw who received the e-mails because he doesn’t have “omnipotent clarity.”

    Yet the White House ignored repeated offers from FOX News to share with the administration such e-mail addresses, to help determine how the recipients ended up on the White House distribution list.

    Shapiro said Sunday that those recipients can unsubscribe if they want, “by clicking the link at the bottom of the e-mail or (telling) whomever forwarded it to them not to forward such information anymore.” He said the White House is trying to correct the problem.

    “We are implementing measures to make subscribing to e-mails clearer, including preventing advocacy organizations from signing people up to our lists without their permission when they deliver petition signatures and other messages on individuals’ behalf,” he said.

    One possible reason for the confusion is that advocacy groups, when dealing with online petitions, are sending in their membership lists whenever they make contact with the White House – the e-mail addresses affiliated with those members could then become embedded in the White House distribution list. The White House indicated its Web site managers are going to seek out and block online petitions so that people can only sign up for information individually.

    Click here to read the White House response.

    FOX News viewers have said in some cases they received a copy of the president’s speech earlier this year in Cairo; in other instances they received health care updates.

    Most recently, FOX News had received hundreds of e-mails from people who said they got an e-mail last week from senior adviser David Axelrod, even though they had never requested any communication from the White House.

    In the mass message, Axelrod defended President Obama’s health care proposals and asked supporters to help rebut criticism circulating on the Internet.

    Axelrod wrote that opponents are relying on tactics including “viral e-mails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies.”

    “So let’s start a chain of e-mail of our own,” he wrote, inviting supporters to forward his message countering claims that Obama’s plans would lead to rationing, encourage euthanasia or deplete veterans’ health care.

    But many people who thought they were not on any distribution list received the message directly from the White House, leading to accusations that the Obama administration was effectively spamming them.

    “It’s not a function of the White House to get somebody’s e-mail address,” said Utah resident Lou Porta.

    Porta, a Republican, said he received Axelrod’s e-mail even though he’s never accessed the White House Web site or asked for any communication from it on any topic.

    The e-mail with Axelrod’s name on it, sent Thursday, came under a message from the White House. If it had come from Axelrod’s individual White House e-mail it would have been archived indefinitely under the Presidential Records Act. But messages from the more generic account may not fall under the same restrictions.

    The Axelrod e-mail is just the latest move by the White House to raise privacy questions.
    The White House earlier drew criticism for asking the public to send in “fishy” information on health care reform the public receive via e-mail or find on the Internet.

    Critics worried how the White House would use that information and accused the administration of playing “big brother.”

    Gibbs rejected the accusations and said the White House was not compiling a list of names.

  113. PEACE PRESIDENT?

    Afghanistan ramping up…
    More violence in Iraq causing generals to plan to nicely ask for more troops to come back…

    Must be a Republican in the WH. Ooooh, wait, just maybe, there is.

    reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSN13272325

    Obama to seek to rally support for Afghan war effort
    =====================================

    Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:00am ED

    By Matt Spetalnick

    PHOENIX, Aug 17 (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will seek to shore up U.S. public support for the war in Afghanistan on Monday just days before an Afghan presidential election widely seen as a major test of his revamped strategy.

    Obama will address a military veterans group in Phoenix at a time when U.S. combat deaths are rising amid a troop buildup against a resurgent Taliban, and polls show a softening of public backing for the eight-year-old war.

    Hoping to reassure Americans, Obama is expected to sketch out why he believes the Afghanistan policy he unveiled earlier this year is working and why the United States must remain committed to stabilizing the war-ravaged country.

    Since taking office in January, he has shifted focus from the more unpopular war in Iraq to Afghanistan, setting it as his administration’s top foreign policy priority.

    “He’ll obviously touch on what we’re accomplishing … (and) what we hope to accomplish,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said in previewing Obama’s speech, which will be delivered at 11 a.m. local time to a Veterans of Foreign Wars convention.

    Obama will speak as Afghans prepare to vote in an election on Thursday that the Taliban, stronger than at any time since they were driven from power in 2001, have vowed to disrupt.

    Securing the balloting will be a crucial test for Obama’s strategy that has rushed 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan this year in a bid to tip the balance in a war some in Washington had admitted the United States was not winning.

    “We’ve got tremendous resources there to ensure that there is a security situation that allows the Afghans to choose their leaders,” Gibbs told reporters.

    Underscoring the threat, however, the Taliban on Saturday claimed a suicide car bomb that killed seven people near the headquarters of the NATO-led international force in Kabul.

    PRESSURE TO SHOW RESULTS

    In a wide-ranging speech that will also delve into the winding-down of the Iraq war, defense spending and veterans’ healthcare, Obama can be expected to tread carefully about the Afghan election to avoid any implication of U.S. interference.

    Despite the Obama administration’s unease about incumbent President Hamid Karzai’s leadership, polls show him with a comfortable lead over his nearest challenger, Abdullah Abdullah, but not enough to avoid a second round run-off.

    The new commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, will deliver a strategy assessment shortly after the Afghan election. It comes at a time when Taliban violence is exerting pressure on Washington to show results in what was supposed to be a “good war.”

    After a record 44 U.S. troops were killed in Afghanistan in July, a recent CNN poll showed U.S. public support for the war at a new low — 54 percent opposed and 41 percent in favor.

    Obama’s strategy has called for increased aid as well as troops for Afghanistan, but the effort to bring in more civilians to help rebuild has been slow.

    He has worked to draw neighboring Pakistan into a regional crackdown on the Taliban and their al Qaeda allies, and though Islamabad has stepped up counter-insurgency operations in its territory Washington still wants tougher action.

    Iraq could also figure prominently in the speech. Obama, who rode to victory in last year’s election partly on his opposition to the war, has said the United States is on track to withdraw all troops from Iraq by the end of 2011.

    He has said his predecessor George W. Bush was too distracted by Iraq to give adequate resources to Afghanistan.

  114. And Bill probably has a huge history with Mr. Cronkite. I would think Obama would have had very little contact with this great man. Should be interesting.

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    And Bill gets to go last… which, imo, is the more desirable timetable.

  115. Mrs. Smith, last I read, Chelsea’s wedding is supposed to be this Saturday, the day before Obama arrives. BTW, Hillary is supposed to be off at the end of the week, which adds credence to that.

    secretaryclinton.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/secretary-clintons-schedule-for-monday-aug-17th/#comments

  116. Hillary to make women’s rights a signature issue.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/17/AR2009081702379.html

  117. Paula,

    The weather in MA and around the Cape (in the 90s) has been sooo fine the last couple of weeks! The bluest clear skies ever and if it rains, it does, just for an hour or so. Almost tropical with the humidity and all. I spent some time with relatives last week anchored off of Nantucket.

    I’m hoping someone can post a few private pix just for our little enclave here at Big Pink. I am sooo happy for Chelsea and Marc. Welcome to the newest genre of MIL jokes.

  118. Mrs. Smith, I imagine a photo will be released to the press afterward, the way JFK Jr. did after his secret nuptials.

    BTW, the latest rumor talks about her wedding dress, lol.

    style.com/vogue/voguedaily/2009/08/chelsea-

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    Poll: Obama Approval Rating Drops to 47 Percent
    Rasmussen Reports shows 52 percent disapprove of President Obama’s performance, while 47 percent at least somewhat approve.

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    President Obama’s approval rating has dropped to 47 percent, a new low, according to the Rasmussen Reports daily tracking poll.

    The survey released Thursday showed 52 percent of those polled disapprove of Obama’s performance, while 47 percent at least somewhat approve.

    The poll appears to reflect the growing discontent over the health care reform push on Capitol Hill, as well as the continuing challenge Obama faces in trying to turn public opinion.

    The new survey showed 42 percent favor the Democrats’ health care plan, while 53 percent oppose it.

    Obama’s approval rating has been steadily creeping downward in recent weeks.

    A Quinnipiac University poll last week pegged that number at 50 percent.

    The Gallup tracking poll still shows Obama’s approval rating at 53 percent.

    Rasmussen surveys 500 likely voters per night for its tracking poll and reports results based on a three-day average — for the full sample of 1,500 likely voters, the margin of error is 3 percentage points.

  120. $200 per child for school supplies: The Real Deal

    Syracuse (WSYR-TV) – Welfare and food stamp recipients Wednesday started getting letters in the mail letting them know extra money they received in their benefit payments this month, is supposed to be used to buy school supplies for their kids.

    The problem is, the money was available on their cards Tuesday, and local retailers tell us they were swamped with people cashing in.

    The owners of the Sunoco on the corner of Wolf and Grant Street in Syracuse were swamped Tuesday; food stamp recipients, they say, who found an extra $200 per child on their benefit cards, were coming in to cash in.

    “One person said she was going to buy a cell phone, I said ‘Wow, I thought the money was supposed to be for the kids — other people were just buying cigarettes and beer,” says Sunoco gas station owner Diane Goly.

    It’s very possible most of those people didn’t even know this cash that mysteriously appeared on their cards was supposed to be used to buy school supplies for their children — the letters from the state telling them that were still in the mail.

    Governor Paterson announced at a press conference Tuesday that he was using $140 million in stimulus money to fund this program — but prior to that, it seems he kept this allocation close to the vest.

    “We hadn’t done a lot of planning for it because we didn’t know about it,” says Ann Rooney of Onondaga County Human Services.

    Social Services had no say in the program or how the cash was distributed; they just learned about it last week and were told not to say anything about it to the public until Tuesday, when the governor announced the program at a press conference.

    “We would have liked to have been involved in the process and have some input,” says Rooney.

    Congressman Dan Maffei says, “The Governor gave me no heads up that they were going to do this, so this is a program that the state is implementing without the input of at least our congressional office.”

    State Republicans claim the governor developed this plan in secret with no legislative input and it’s ripe for fraud and abuse.

    We tried speaking with the governor’s office Wednesday about this, and they deferred us to the Office of Temporary Assistance.

    They admit the letters should have gone out well in advance of the money, but there was a lot of overhead and they wanted to make sure the cash was out before school started.

    With the governor’s plan, there’s no accountability. His office is just hoping folks do the right thing and spend the extra cash on their kids. Rooney thinks there may have been a better way to ensure that. “Perhaps we could have done something with Mary Nelson, who’s having her barbecue this weekend and put some of the money in her hands to supplement what she’s doing with the backpack giveaway,” she says.

    Nelson says she found out about the money and says she’s heard of people using it on other items rather than on their children. It shocks her, but she says it’s not the children’s fault and that she’ll still help them. “Maybe those parents should come by and bring some of those supplies, and feel bad for what they did,” Nelson says. She wishes she could have received at least some of that money; with just days left before the Youth Day Barbecue, she still needs enough supplies to fill up 1,000 backpacks. She also says she needs about 2,000 backpacks for folks who may not have signed up

    9wsyr.com/content/news/real_deal/story/200-per-child-for-school-supplies-The-Real-Deal/5K-xR9qIFUGXyHpwWtrEQw.cspx

  121. “The poll appears to reflect the growing discontent over the health care reform push on Capitol Hill, as well as the continuing challenge Obama faces in trying to turn public opinion.”

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    And now he’s apparently going to add Afghanistan to the mix of his subliminal begging. He wants to get the public back on his side for this war. Good luck with that.

  122. Paula:

    You-you-you- know everything!

    Favorite part of the piece:

    “Maybe the fascination with Chelsea Clinton is her steadfast pursuit of her right to privacy. While the majority of Americans begin to discover the downside of babble, living 24-7 on-line, Twittering, watching reality TV, and generally just talking too much about ourselves, Chelsea is one of the few people in public life reminding us what privacy is—the right to it, the pleasure of it, and the dignity of it.”

    A girl after my own heart… and why I am not a twitterer!

    More power to her if there is a wedding and her family and friends wouldn’t say beforehand. All things considered, Chelsea Clinton deserves at least one day off from the national spotlight, her wedding day. If you agree, say “I do.”

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