The Boob Job

Update: NPR, National Public Radio, has a new poll on Obama. In this respected poll Obama is now down to a shocking 53%:

President Obama has hit a rough patch this summer, squeezed between a lingering recession and rising questions about the health care overhaul he has made the centerpiece of his first-year agenda. [snip]

Those are the chief findings of the latest NPR poll of registered voters conducted nationwide Wednesday through Sunday by a bipartisan team. The pollsters found 53 percent approving of the president’s handling of his job, while 42 percent disapproved — the narrowest gap of the Obama presidency to date. Most of the approving group said they approved strongly, and an even greater majority of the disapproving group said they disapproved strongly. [snip]

In another part of the poll, respondents were asked which of two statements on the economy came closer to expressing their view. The first statement: “President Obama’s economic policies helped avert an even worse crisis and are laying the foundation for our eventual economic recovery.” The second statement: “President Obama’s economic policies have run up a record federal deficit while failing to end the recession or slow the record pace of job losses.” A plurality preferred the second statement, 48 percent to 45 percent. A majority on both sides said they agreed strongly (2 to 1 among those preferring the first statement; 3 to 1 among those preferring the second).

But if the president saw his numbers down, Congress fared far worse, with just 7 percent saying they approved strongly and 25 percent saying they approved somewhat. A 61 percent majority said they disapproved of Congress, with 2 out of 3 of them doing so strongly.

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It’s official: Obama is NOT popular. Big Media, please revise the narrative.

The Gallup poll organization is very mainstream and thus far the poll numbers from Gallup have put the best light on Obama. Bad ol’ Rasmussen, measuring likely voters, has Obama circling the toilet (at 49% approval). But Gallup has been Obama friendly and labeled Obama “popular”.

But after today, Gallup will have to relabel Obama as “NOT popular”. Today the Gallup daily tracking poll calculates the percentage of Americans who approve of the job the Boob is doing at 54%.

54% is an important number in the popularity sweepstakes. This is what Gallup had to say on July 3 about the approval ratings for recent presidents and how Gallup determines who is popular and who is not popular:

Whereas presidents from Harry Truman through Richard Nixon spent an average of 26 months above the historical average 55% presidential job approval rating after they took office, presidents from Gerald Ford to George W. Bush spent an average of just seven months above this norm.

A honeymoon period has an obvious beginning — when the president takes office — but no obvious end. But given that honeymoons are characterized by above-average ratings, one way to define the end point is by marking the point at which the president’s ratings become “average.” And the historical average presidential job approval rating in all Gallup Polls is 55%. [snip]

Because Obama has been able to maintain above-average approval ratings, he is arguably still in the honeymoon phase of his presidency. Now in his sixth month in office, his honeymoon has already exceeded the durations of those for Ford, Clinton, and George W. Bush. If he can maintain ratings above 55% through the summer, his honeymoon will match the length of those for Jimmy Carter and Reagan.

Now we know that at 54% Obama will not match Jimmy or Ronnie for time spent in the honeymoon bed.

Things are so bad for Obama right now that even the Hopium addled addicts, the Obama deadenders, are bored with Obama and they are not visiting him online. Even in web traffic (“official White House Web site–whitehouse.gov–has fallen from a post-Inauguration peak to nearly the same level it was during the waning days of the Bush administration“) Obama is now the Third Bush Term.

By July 20, Gallup began to provide empirical evidence of the great “transformational” who is in reality not even the interestingly transitional:

Qualms about President Obama’s stewardship of the economy are growing, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, as Americans become more pessimistic about when they predict the recession will end.

At six months in office, Obama’s 55% approval rating puts him 10th among the 12 post-World War II presidents at this point in their tenures. When he took office, he ranked seventh.

“His ratings have certainly come back down to Earth in a very short time period,” Republican pollster Whit Ayres says.

In that Gallup/USA Today poll article the growing disapproval for Obama policies was also noted and since then things have only gotten worse.

• By 49%-47%, those surveyed disapprove of how he is handling the economy, a turnaround from his 55%-42% approval in May. The steepest drop came from conservative and moderate Democrats.

• By 50%-44%, they disapprove of how he is handling health care policy.

• A 59% majority say his proposals call for too much government spending and 52% say they call for too much expansion of government power.

• Expectations of the economy’s turnaround are souring a bit. In February, the average prediction for a recovery was 4.1 years; now it’s 5.5 years.

• The administration’s stimulus package isn’t seen as a benefit by most whether viewed in the short term or the long term, in how it will impact the country or individuals. Only a third think it will help their own family’s finances in the long run.

Obama “might make the policies more popular by being associated with him,” says historian H.W. Brands of the University of Texas-Austin. “But it’s almost equally possible that it will make him less popular by linking him with those policies.”

USA Today answered the question “why bother with polls”:

A president’s standing after his first six months in office doesn’t forecast whether he’ll have a successful four-year term, but it does signal how much political juice he’ll have for his second six months in office.

That’s the lesson of history.

Barack Obama, who completed six months in office Monday, has a 55% approval rating in the USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, putting him 10th among the dozen presidents who have served since World War II at this point in their tenures.

The great Mess-iah it turns out is below average and since those numbers were charted things got only worse as hope for celestial choirs for change vanished.

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For Obama, July was the cruelest month, stuck in the wasteland which he inhabits.

Hope and change is become fear and loathing:

The Obama administration, which was flying high a month ago after pushing through a climate change bill in the House, has since been dealt a series of setbacks and is struggling to regain its footing.

After the climate bill passed 219-212 on the afternoon of June 26, there was a feeling that the White House could get much of its agenda through Congress in 2009.

A month later, there are doubts that President Obama will even achieve his No. 1 priority of healthcare reform, much less cap-and-trade, immigration reform and a regulatory revamp of the financial sector.

The lack of experience is showing:

Many centrist Democrats are worried that Republicans will have the upper hand in the 2010 elections.

Paul Light, an expert on the presidency and a professor at New York University, said the president’s problems with Capitol Hill reflect “a miscalculation by the Obama administration on how political capital gets spent in Washington.”

Light said that capital, even for a president who enjoys immense personal popular support like Obama, is spent a bit at a time on each initiative or piece of legislation.

“I think the Obama administration has been spending political capital at roughly the same rate the federal government spends money,” Light said. “Eventually, it runs out.”

Light quoted President Lyndon Johnson, who said that “if you don’t get it done in six months, you’re not going to get it done.”

And, as we have said all along to the fawners and the Hopium addled, Obama stinks – as a speaker:

The other misstep that has bogged down the administration on healthcare specifically is Obama’s inability to communicate effectively to the American people, Light said.

While it is shocking to consider that Obama is anything less than one of the best communicators in modern political history, when it comes to healthcare, he simply has not been able to make the sell to people who do have health insurance.

And Wednesday night’s primetime press conference was a “disaster,” Light said.

Left Talkers at the time got “tingles” up their leg and expected Obama to soar in the polls and thought that Obama “knocked it out of the park” at the most recent publicity stunt.

We thought Obama stunk.

Americans increasingly agree with us.

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135 thoughts on “The Boob Job

  1. Great article Admin: He has definitely spent his political capital. People are just getting plain tired of the rhetoric. They are interested in jobs, real healthcare and peace with its neighbors, not publicity stunts.

  2. July 28th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    I remember, during the primary, reading that there were also statemnents from a doctor in Kenya naming the hospital and claiming to be the physician at the birth. I believe that I read that in a british paper.

    I also do not trust the “paper ” archives. There is obviously a lot at stake here. I believe the archives could be manipulated.

    Even if BO was in fact born in Hawaii, there is obviously a problem…..either pertaining to his name or alledged father etc. There is something being covered up which ties in to the refusal to release college records, etc.This is what I believe. And as Lou dobbs says, why not just produce the info if there is nothing to hide? Name the doctor and the Hospital.

    Did his mother hve prenatal care in hawaii? How can someone go thru the childbearing process and not know the name o the doctor and hospital? There is definitely more than arrogance here.

  3. I was reviewing his campaign against Clinton’s superior health care plan and i think he really boxed himself in. There isn’t much he can do, that the insurance industry can’t pull out his broadsides against Clinton and use them against the current reform that’s being attempted.

    I’m not under the impression that he personally is invested in health care reform for others so much as to have his name attached to a Rooseveltian accomplishment. I mentioned this in the last thread, but I’ll bring it up again – James Roosevelt who chaired the by-laws committee that gave Obama Clinton’s delegates is the CEO of a health insurance company. Obama’s in deep with the bad guys.

    We needed a Franklin Roosevelt and instead, we got a James Buchanan.

  4. Admin communicates via ‘The Hill’ that:

    While it is shocking to consider that Obama is anything less than one of the best communicators in modern political history, when it comes to healthcare, he simply has not been able to make the sell to people who do have health insurance.

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    guess ‘they’ are starting to wake up and realize that he has been READING all along…and does not know what the hell he is talking about without his tellie…

    …and if he goes off prompter for even a few seconds all hell breaks loose…

    …the lesson (and comparison) of Mass Governor Patrick Deval cannot be far behind…

  5. As commented upon in the earlier article, here is Greta Van Susteren’s interview with the former Crowley supervisor:

  6. Gonzotex, I might as well believe it because it will not make any difference if that is why he is hiding his BC. If there is some other reason he is hiding it, then there will be something of value we can use to impeach and/or arrest him. You realize that this will cause rioting unlike we have ever seen before. We can thank those republicans who knew this and sat on it just to pull the crap they are pulling now with HC. I can image if there is something unconstitutional about him being POTUS, there will be lots of problems for those that knew. It will be bad. If its just a matter that he was born in Africa to an American woman, thats just not going to be of value, the Kool-aid drinkers don’t care and I have spoken to many of them at work and varous places. The Kool-aid drinkers don’t care about the constitution anyway, never did.

  7. Basement Angel: “boxed himself in” is an understatement. 🙂

    “Hoist on his own petard”, “chickens coming home to roost”, these too work.

  8. While it is shocking to consider that Obama is anything less than one of the best communicators in modern political history

    LMAO! Light should not be so shocked. The only thing Obama was ever able to communicate with passion and intensity was his own personal narrative about himself, and his dream of himself as president. That’s it. Nothing else.

    Fortunately we Hillary supporters have no use for Sirens, and like Odysseus lashed ourselves to the mast of sanity, and plugged our ears. So the suddenly looming rocks are no surprise to us. Unlike the groggy, confused, blinking sailors of the media now awakening from their dream, we steer steadily on, not bewildered by the scenery when the song has ended.

  9. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=am77.VJg3JqU

    July 28 (Bloomberg) — U.S. House Democratic leaders, struggling to reach an accord with party dissidents on health care, said they’re likely to miss President Barack Obama’s August deadline for legislation overhauling the medical system.

    “It doesn’t look like it to me,” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said in an interview. “I really hoped that we could have gotten a bill out of here by now,” he said, adding that he has a “heavy political heart.”

    Obama, who has made revamping health care the centerpiece of his domestic agenda, had urged the House and Senate to each pass versions of the bill before their monthlong August recess so negotiations on a compromise could begin when they return.

  10. While it is shocking to consider that Obama is anything less than one of the best communicators in modern political history, when it comes to healthcare, he simply has not been able to make the sell to people who do have health insurance.

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    Argueable before ONE would be more appropirate. Many of his speeches were spun that they would go down in history. I don’t see anyone quoting them, and it will be up to history as to whether they ever will. As pointed out before, many have panned his latest speech, but the media is still trying to spin this stuff as tingling down the leg down in history stuff. When JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country” It was immediately identified as the important sentence in his Inaugural Address. No one is quoting anything from O’s.

  11. We wrote yesterday about the Obama Birth Certificate Issue from the perspective of how Big Media is trying to turn it into a Republican problem. Many started discussing the Birth Certificate Issue itself. For those of you interested in this issue, you’ll probably want to watch the Bill O’Reilly show tomorrow when his guest is supposed to be Lou Dobbs.

  12. Basement Angel,

    why don’t you call the public library in HI and have them check O’s neighborhood for neighbors, and see if you can find some still there. I think you could maybe even put an ad in the newspaper to find them. Surely there must have been some neighbor that can remember what happen way back when.

    In fact, Just as Sgt Crowley associates have come forward to validate him, one would think there would be people that can come forward to validate Os birth.

    In my own family, I know that there are people (friends & relatives) that I could contact to validate births with, if that needed to be done, and I would have ask them long ago to do that to clear this up.

  13. What will the 44% who approve Obama care say when they find out he’s not passing Medicare for All, that their premiums don’t go down, that they can’t opt-in to Medicare, that they are federally mandated to buy an insurance product they still can’t afford? What then?

  14. mj, they won’t know or feel any of that until 2012. This bill will not have any real effects til then. It will be too late.

  15. Basement Angel says, “We needed a Franklin Roosevelt and instead, we got a James Buchanan.”

    Isn’t that the sorry truth.

  16. Hillary for Texas:

    Great post at 8:47
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    New Mexico:

    Early on Phil Berg was the primary litigator that has done extensive research on Obama’s Birth Certificate issue. The circumstantial evidence he has gathered all points to Obama was not Natural Born.

    Basement Angel, not being a stickler, but Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961 not Aug 5th as you posted. And just as a point of fact. At the time Obama was born, his mother most likely was in Mobassa, Kenya as Obama’s father wanted him to be a citizen of Kenya. It was customary for X-Patriots to fly into HI and register the birth in HI even though the child was born elsewhere.

    It’s all explained here at Berg’s site. h…. w….obamacrimes.com/

  17. Lamecherry blogspot has an interesting take on the BC and why the usurper is hiding it. It makes alot of sense. This could also explain why there was a registration in Hawaii, and who it was that registered it, although she has died of cancer recently.

  18. The thing with Obama’s speeches is every single one of them is THE BIGGEST SPEECH EVER! You can’t have that many greatest speeches of all time. It all comes down to hubris with him.

  19. Things are not going well with Mr. Obama’s War. The previous US Commander, David D. McKiernan, was sh*t canned by when he asked for at least three more combat brigades. Well Gen. McChrystal, his replacement, was the insurgency expert and didn’t need all of those troops. Ooops:

    “WASHINGTON (CNN) — The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan is expected to ask the Obama administration for additional troops and equipment, according to a senior U.S. military official familiar with Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s thinking.
    (SNIP)
    The request could be made in coming weeks after McChrystal completes a “troop-to-task review” to calculate whether there are enough U.S. troops in Afghanistan — and the right mix of troops — to carry out the military’s war plan at an acceptable level of risk, the official said.

    ww.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/afghanistan.troops/index.html

    Afghanistan is a “no win black hole” but “Gen. Obama has had a bug us his a** about winning in Afghanistan, maybe to show-up “W”, who knows..but he is going to get a lot of Americans killed for his ego.

  20. It makes no sense to give any credence to his being a legitimate in HI, without a review of the actual document, and a discussion with people that might know. Fake documents are created all the time. I also agree with the research done on X-Patriots. Hawaii was a Territory and on the edge of the frontier in 1961. To say that their vital records recording compares with areas such as Boston, who have been recording birth’s since the tea party really does not hold up.

    It is similar to the recording of Births in Boston, versus the Frontier. I, however, like to research early births inn Europe, because they were better organized than the colonies so to speak. If the government had not recorded it, then Catholic church had.

    In my research also I found that Florida was very much a frontier atmosphere in record keeping until air conditioning took hold and areas became more populated.

    There is really no basis for admitting that this birth recording is valid until you have seen all the documents, and interviewed all the people. What would you do in the case of a crime, in order to determine the facts. You would gather all of the written, video, photo, and oral evidence, and you would present it to a jury, who would determine if there was enough evidence to prove one thing or another.

    You really only prove possibilities, and procedures.

  21. The fraud already said it is an unwinnable War. I dont know if I were in the military I could go put my life on the line for a War that our CIC has already said it is unwinnable. Wonder what the moral is @ this point

  22. I completely missed that Admin wanted to make the point that the Reps were being blamed for continuing this issue.

    I personnel think that the Republicans have come in way too late on this issue.

  23. MJ, we have read some really stupid commentary from Ezra Klein and his ilk about how all Obama has to do is pass “something”. Frankly, at this point we do not know what will hurt Obama more: not passing a health care bill or passing this mess (what little we can discern will emerge).

    The answer we are stumbling toward right now is that passage of the current glob will hurt Obama the most. Reasons for thinking this is that a lot of his “he’s gonna pay for my gasoline, my mortgage, etc.” crowd think that once they get that “insurance card” they will get gold standard treatment. Instead they will discover that they have to wait until 2013 or something, that it will not be “free”, that it will not be gold standard treatment, that there will be payments required when they go for medical care – not to mention the eventual flood of forms we all will have to fill out.

    Your questions about Medicare For All, and premium payments are all valid. We do not know what will be in the muck that emerges from the “deliberations” from House, Senate, White House. But it is doubtful that the muck that emerges will be applauded.

    The nation needs genuine health care reform and it is a shame and worse that many people who need to get medical treatment will still suffer. We did our mourning for health care when Obama became the nominee. But a lot of the people who supported Obama were genuinely fooled by him (the Dimocratic leadership helped pull off the joke). These people really believe and they will soon have to do the mourning we did for health care about a year ago.

  24. Here it comes, the love affair continues. i so did not want officer Crowley to go t the WH and be used in this way. I guess he was in a no win situation. From BP
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    At picnic, Obama will be serving beer for a reason

    The president’s choice of beverages is an attempt to erase cultural lines between Gates and Crowley – and to strike a folksy note with Americans.

    But the president’s picnic table diplomacy speaks to Mr. Obama’s ability to leave behind his often-professorial persona and connect with the American people, political experts say. He has already managed to ratchet down tensions with police officers that he himself stirred when he said Crowley acted “stupidly” in arresting Gates.

    Remember, “[his opponents] tried the Joe Sixpack attacks in the last parts of the campaign, but here’s a man ripping a can off that pack,” says Bruce Gronbeck, director of the University of Iowa Center for Media Studies and Political Culture.

    csmonitor.com/politics/2009/07/28/at-picnic-obama-will-be-serving-beer-for-a-reason/

    Here we go. The MSM waxing poetic about Obama making miracles.

    “Folksie?” Isn’t that just as bad as calling us bitter people clinging to our bible

  25. SHV, General Shinseki (who wanted more troops for Iraq from Bush but was fired instead) must be chuckling.

    Neetabug, we generally catch O’Reilly in repeats. The original broadcast is at 8:00 p.m. on the East Coast.

  26. The answer we are stumbling toward right now is that passage of the current glob will hurt Obama the most. Reasons for thinking this is that a lot of
    his “he’s gonna pay for my gasoline, my mortgage, etc.” crowd think that once they get that “insurance card” they will get gold standard treatment. Instead they will discover that they have to wait until 2013 or something, that it will not be “free”, that it will not be gold standard treatment, that there will be payments required when they go for medical care – not to mention the eventual flood of forms we all will have to fill out.
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    Admin

    You are assuming they are part of the 50% THAT WORK. Maybe it will be free after all.

  27. Yes, we will be getting rid of Judas Richardson in 2010. However, LTG Diane Dennish, Dem, who was a Big Hillary Supporter until the End (she use to wear a gold scripted pen with Hillary on it which I lusted after). She deserves to win.

    The challeng with the 2010 elections is going to be to keep the good Dems. Coat tails work both way, good and bad.

  28. Obama to AARP: Health Care Reform “Not That Costly If We Start Making Changes Right Now”

    abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/obama-to-aarp-health-care-reform-not-that-costly-if-we-start-making-changes-right-now

  29. July 28, 2009

    Waters blames Rahm for recalcitrant Dems on healthcare

    by Michael O’Brien

    The White House may only have one of its top officials to blame for its difficulty in passing healthcare, one liberal California Democrat asserted Tuesday.

    Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) blamed now-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel’s work as head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), during which he worked to recruit many centrist candidates, resulting in landslide Democratic victories, for difficulties facing House leaders trying to pass reform legislation.

    “That may be difficult for Rahm Emanuel, because remember, he recruited most of them,” Waters said during an interview on MSNBC when asked if the White House could lean on centrist, Blue Dog Democrats to pass reform legislation.

    “Now the chickens have come home to roost,” she added.

    Waters said that the Congressional Progressive Caucus wouldn’t organize candidates to run against the recalcitrant Democrats on healthcare, she could understand why those lawmakers might face primary challenges.

    briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/07/28/waters-blames-rahm-for-recalcitrant-dems-on-healthcare/

  30. They laughed when HRC got slaughtered over health care. With O we will hear nothing but blaming someone else, and how hard the job it. Surely we could not possible blame him. I Guess HRC can just take the heat in the kitchen better than O can. But then we knew that during the Primary.

    Admin, you are right, that what we lost at that convention in August was not just a great leader, but the best health care bill we could get put together and presented by a person who had been there before, and really knew how to get it through Congress and make the deals. When you are an over achiever like HRC, you don’t fail twice.

  31. YA all know that 10-17 million of the “un insured” are illegals. They don’t talk about that . I really am offended that I have to pay for their health care. I know, I know, we are paying with ER services and numerous maternity ward visits, but this will be a neon sign that America has given up, ya all just come on over, we pay for everyone and it’s FREE!

  32. Just move on if you’ve heard this:

    The news traveling the grape vine on Martha’s Vineyard has it that the Fraud will indeed be staying at the Blue Heron Farm, but Michelle and the children will be staying with Caroline Kennedy. Both will be a few miles away from the island’s AA community and each other.

    Chelsea’s wedding will be a small affair at the home of Danson and Steenburgen.

    The Clintons and the Frauds will not be on the island at the same time.

    There is to be a fundraiser for Pelosi on the Vineyard – suggested contribution is $10,000.

  33. Okay, comment on another blog talking about various politicians saying really stupid crap lately made me LOL.

    Is there a pandemic of “foot in mouth” disease breaking through Washington DC? My guess is Biden is patient 0.

  34. GonzoTx, you wrote:

    “Admin

    You are assuming they are part of the 50% THAT WORK. Maybe it will be free after all.”

    Not quite right. With Obama we always return to first principles. First Principles: “Obama can’t be trusted….by friend nor foe.”

    Our assumption is Obama will stab everyone in the back.

  35. NewMexicoFan,

    You’re having a hard time absorbing this. The newspaper announcement was published 8 days after his birth from list that was posted by the Department of Vital Records. That means that they had received the birth certificate from the hospital, processed it and put it on the list of vital records for publication.

    This is a contemporaneous document – not a contemporary one. The letter from the grandmother is contemporary – it was created after she personally had a motivation to do so. The birth announcement happened at the time of the birth. And yes, I have talked to one neighbor and they thought they idea that he was born elsewhere was lunatic. For the record, they had not been contacted by anyone but myself.

    Obama is an asshole. When he finally gets pushed to turn over his birth certificate, he and his supporters are going to have a good laugh. That’s what this is all about. You’re being had by a real jerk.

  36. Grape

    Hadn’t heard that but I did hear that the Fraud was going there to get his new orders and directions from the power brokers who put him in office. It is where they play and apparently work

  37. NMF, I love your statement “when you are an overachiever like HRC, you don’t fail twice”. Now thats what I like to hear, now she must run for POTUS again.

  38. So Chelsea is getting married, I hope its exactly what she wants a quiet wedding. Why is Meanchelle and the kids not staying with Obama?? WHo is staying with him?? Maybe Reggie, huh??

  39. Even if BO was in fact born in Hawaii, there is obviously a problem…..either pertaining to his name or alledged father etc. There is something being covered up which ties in to the refusal to release college records, etc.

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    The obvious connection I see, is that the BC issue draws attention away from the college records (and similar) issues. The BC issue is easy to ridicule so no one is supporting the lawsuits that want both BC and college records.

    Seems to me the most solid evidence is the money BO is spending to fight these disclosure suits. If there’s nothing wrong with the BC or the college records, why fight it?

  40. turndownobama, Exactly, noone fights something and spends that kind of money for NO reason. This is money he is paying out of his pocket?? Maybe someone else is doing it for him?? Maybe the idiots that want him in that office??

  41. I never get to watch Lou Dobbs, has he quit talking about the BC since his boss told him to STFU???

  42. The news traveling the grape vine on Martha’s Vineyard has it that the Fraud
    will indeed be staying at the Blue Heron Farm, but Michelle and the children will be staying with Caroline Kennedy. Both will be a few miles away from the island’s AA community and each other.

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    What a picture to behold. Caroline and Michelle catching a few rays on the beach. I bet Michelle is a handfull after a few Mi Ties

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    Uh, thats right- Jackie’s estate in Gay Head.. and Ted’s in Edgartown..

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    Chelsea’s wedding will be a small affair at the home of Danson and Steenburgen.

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    I hope there are tons of pictures. We all watched Chelsea growing up. I’ll bet she doesn’t realize she has so many mothers out there wishing her well on her special day.

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    The Clintons and the Frauds will not be on the island at the same time.

    Best present they could ever give her.

  43. Hey folks this is a good one
    lol

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com /articles /2009 /07 /28/stop_calling_it_a_teachable_moment_97655.html

    Stop Calling It a ‘Teachable Moment’
    By Ruben Navarrette

    SAN DIEGO — It has been two weeks since his arrest by Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley, and Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. still needs an attitude adjustment.

    That’s what my father’s generation of old-school law enforcement officers was known to provide now and then when someone mouthed off, or lobbed insults, or challenged their authority. Today, folks on the job refer to this sort of thing as “contempt of cop.” It’s not illegal, but it’s also not a smart thing to do if you have an aversion to handcuffs and steel bars, since there are plenty of other things for which you can be arrested.

    Just ask Gates, who was written up for “loud and tumultuous behavior” at his house.

    What needs adjusting isn’t Gates’ attitude toward law enforcement; that’s between him and the police. The real problem is his presumptuous attitude toward the rest of us. The professor needs to stop calling what happened to him a “teaching moment.” We’re not his students. More importantly, we’re not the ones who let our ego get the best of us and went ballistic over a simple and harmless request to provide identification.

    The only person who needs to learn a lesson from all this is Gates, and the syllabus for that course should include a few lines about the proper way to interact with police officers. I’m surprised that, with all the knowledge that Gates has acquired on the way to becoming one of the nation’s most renowned public intellectuals, he never learned how to talk to a police officer — and, more importantly, how not to talk to one.

    Gates also sounded a tad naive when he said that the incident “made me realize … how vulnerable all black men are, how vulnerable all people of color are and all poor people to capricious forces.” He has spent his career chronicling the African-American experience, and he just realized this now? That speaks to how detached the Harvard professor is from his own subject matter.

    That point seems lost on President Obama, who said that the Cambridge police had “acted stupidly” only to walk back on that statement a couple of days later. At moments like this, Obama seems to be struggling with an inner tension between the responsibility he feels to offer the country some special insight into such matters as the first black president and the desire to be post-racial. It’s a difficult tightrope to walk, and the Gates’ arrest made the president lose his footing.

    Obama tried to make peace with Crowley by inviting him — and Gates — to the White House for a beer. It’s a nice gesture. It’s not every day that a cop on the beat gets an offer like that. But what concerns me is that Obama also said that he sees this incident as a “teachable moment.”

    Oh dear. Just what does the president think is the lesson from all this, and who does he think needs to learn it?

    As Crowley enters the premises of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., he should be careful. I hope he doesn’t find himself cast as racially insensitive or on the wrong end of a lecture about how to do police work by those who have never had to do it.

    After all, nothing ruins a good beer like the taste of condescension.

  44. http://www.cnsnews.com /public /Content /article.aspx?RsrcID=51633

    Traffic to Obama’s White House Web Site Has Plummeted
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009
    By Matt Cover

    White House logo(CNSNews.com) – The traffic at President Obama’s official White House Web site–whitehouse.gov–has fallen from a post-Inauguration peak to nearly the same level it was during the waning days of the Bush administration.

    The dramatic drop in traffic has happened despite the Obama Administration’s complete redesign of the site.

    According to the web-traffic tracking site Alexa.com, whitehouse.gov was almost the 500th most popular Web site in the world in February. Since then, it has fallen to the 3,732 ranked Web site in the world. Traffic to the site has fallen 51.6 percent in the last three months.

    People are also spending less time on the site than they did before. Time spent on a Web site is often used as a barometer for how interested visitors are in a site’s content. Time spent on whitehouse.gov declined 15 percent since May to an average of 2.6 minutes per visitor.

    Visitors are looking at less and less on the site, despite the daily increase in content. Visitors viewed an average of only two pages per day over the past three months, declining 18.5 percent during that time.

    In fact, the number of different pages viewed by the average visitor has fallen nearly 50 percent since February, when the site logged nearly four repeat visits per day. The White House is reaching fewer people through its Web site than it did in its early days. Whitehouse.gov’s reach–the percentage of Internet users who visit the site daily–declined to only 0.031 percent of all Internet users, a decline of 40.6 percent since May.

    The overwhelming majority of whitehouse.gov visitors–67 percent–come from the United States. India and Germany account for 4.5 and 4.1 percent of visitors respectively with China, the United Kingdom, and Canada rounding out the top five with 2.7, 2.0, and 1.7 percent each.

    The decline in White House’s web traffic has coincided with a decline in the president’s approval ratings and the approval ratings for his policies.

    A Zogby poll released July 24 showed that only 48 percent of Americans approve of the job President Obama is doing, down from 51 percent in mid-June — 49 percent of Americans said they disapprove of Obama’s performance and 4 percent were unsure.

    When asked to rate Obama’s performance, 53 percent rated it negatively, with 43 percent giving the president a “poor” rating.

    Other polls show a similar, negative trend for Obama. A Rasmussen tracking poll, published July 27, showed that only 49 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s performance, with a majority of 50 percent disapproving.

    Rasmussen reported similar findings, showing that only 25 percent of Americans thought Obama’s massive spending package had helped the economy, with 31 percent saying it had hurt the economy.

  45. http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51633

    Traffic to Obama’s White House Web Site Has Plummeted
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009
    By Matt Cover

    White House logo(CNSNews.com) – The traffic at President Obama’s official White House Web site–whitehouse.gov–has fallen from a post-Inauguration peak to nearly the same level it was during the waning days of the Bush administration.

    The dramatic drop in traffic has happened despite the Obama Administration’s complete redesign of the site.

    According to the web-traffic tracking site Alexa.com, whitehouse.gov was almost the 500th most popular Web site in the world in February. Since then, it has fallen to the 3,732 ranked Web site in the world. Traffic to the site has fallen 51.6 percent in the last three months.

    People are also spending less time on the site than they did before. Time spent on a Web site is often used as a barometer for how interested visitors are in a site’s content. Time spent on whitehouse.gov declined 15 percent since May to an average of 2.6 minutes per visitor.

    Visitors are looking at less and less on the site, despite the daily increase in content. Visitors viewed an average of only two pages per day over the past three months, declining 18.5 percent during that time.

    In fact, the number of different pages viewed by the average visitor has fallen nearly 50 percent since February, when the site logged nearly four repeat visits per day. The White House is reaching fewer people through its Web site than it did in its early days. Whitehouse.gov’s reach–the percentage of Internet users who visit the site daily–declined to only 0.031 percent of all Internet users, a decline of 40.6 percent since May.

    The overwhelming majority of whitehouse.gov visitors–67 percent–come from the United States. India and Germany account for 4.5 and 4.1 percent of visitors respectively with China, the United Kingdom, and Canada rounding out the top five with 2.7, 2.0, and 1.7 percent each.

    The decline in White House’s web traffic has coincided with a decline in the president’s approval ratings and the approval ratings for his policies.

    A Zogby poll released July 24 showed that only 48 percent of Americans approve of the job President Obama is doing, down from 51 percent in mid-June — 49 percent of Americans said they disapprove of Obama’s performance and 4 percent were unsure.

    When asked to rate Obama’s performance, 53 percent rated it negatively, with 43 percent giving the president a “poor” rating.

    Other polls show a similar, negative trend for Obama. A Rasmussen tracking poll, published July 27, showed that only 49 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s performance, with a majority of 50 percent disapproving.

    Rasmussen reported similar findings, showing that only 25 percent of Americans thought Obama’s massive spending package had helped the economy, with 31 percent saying it had hurt the economy.

  46. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/28/a_post-racial_president_97642.html

    Many people hoped that the election of a black President of the United States would mark our entering a “post-racial” era, when we could finally put some ugly aspects of our history behind us.

    That is quite understandable. But it takes two to tango. Those of us who want to see racism on its way out need to realize that others benefit greatly from crying racism. They benefit politically, financially, and socially.

    SNIP-
    With race– as with campaign finance, transparency and the
    rest– Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.

    The racial profiling issue is a great vote-getter. And if it polarizes the society, that is a price that politicians are willing to pay in order to get votes. Academics who run black studies departments, as Professor Henry Louis Gates does, likewise have a vested interest in racial

    For “community organizers” as well, racial resentments are a stock in trade. President Obama’s background as a community organizer has received far too little attention, though it should have been a high-alert warning that this was no post-racial figure.

    What does a community organizer do? What he does not do is organize a community. What he organizes are the resentments and paranoia within a community, directing those feelings against other communities, from whom either benefits or revenge are to be gotten, using whatever rhetoric or tactics will accomplish that purpose.

    To think that someone who has spent years promoting grievance and polarization was going to bring us all together as president is a triumph of wishful thinking over reality.

    Not only Barack Obama’s past, but his present, tell the same story. His appointment of an attorney general who called America “a nation of cowards” for not dialoguing about race was a foretaste of what to expect from Eric Holder.

    The way Attorney General Holder has refused to prosecute young black thugs who gathered at a voting site with menacing clubs, in blatant violation of federal laws against intimidating voters, speaks louder than any words from him or his president.

    President Obama’s first nominee to the Supreme Court is, like Obama himself, someone with a background of years of affiliation with an organization dedicated to promoting racial resentments and a sense of racial entitlement.

    An 18th century philosopher said, “When I speak I put on a mask. When I act I am forced to take it off.” Barack Obama’s mask slipped for a moment last week but he quickly recovered, with the help of the media. But we should never forget what we saw.

  47. NPR, National Public Radio, has a new poll on Obama. In this respected poll Obama is now down to a shocking 53%:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111194032

    President Obama has hit a rough patch this summer, squeezed between a lingering recession and rising questions about the health care overhaul he has made the centerpiece of his first-year agenda.

    The nation is close to evenly split in its assessment of the president’s policies to date, and there is great intensity on both sides of the debate with dwindling numbers in the middle.

    Those are the chief findings of the latest NPR poll of registered voters conducted nationwide Wednesday through Sunday by a bipartisan team. The pollsters found 53 percent approving of the president’s handling of his job, while 42 percent disapproved — the narrowest gap of the Obama presidency to date. Most of the approving group said they approved strongly, and an even greater majority of the disapproving group said they disapproved strongly.

    Poll respondents liked a Democratic statement on solving health care problems better than a Republican statement (51 percent to 42 percent). However, when asked about the plan now moving through Congress, a plurality of 47 percent was opposed and 42 percent said they were in favor, based on what they had heard about the plan so far.

    In another part of the poll, respondents were asked which of two statements on the economy came closer to expressing their view. The first statement: “President Obama’s economic policies helped avert an even worse crisis and are laying the foundation for our eventual economic recovery.” The second statement: “President Obama’s economic policies have run up a record federal deficit while failing to end the recession or slow the record pace of job losses.” A plurality preferred the second statement, 48 percent to 45 percent. A majority on both sides said they agreed strongly (2 to 1 among those preferring the first statement; 3 to 1 among those preferring the second).

    But if the president saw his numbers down, Congress fared far worse, with just 7 percent saying they approved strongly and 25 percent saying they approved somewhat. A 61 percent majority said they disapproved of Congress, with 2 out of 3 of them doing so strongly.

  48. Why would Ann Coulter say that the people interested in seeing Obama BC are “Kooks”. She should know that if we can prove he is not NBC then he’s out, why wouldn’t she want this? It doesn’t make sense!

  49. The Obama’s are paying some of the MV rent.

    No deal has yet been struck on the property, but the rental agreement being negotiated has reportedly been split into three separate leases: one to be held by the Obamas — and paid for out of their own pockets — one by the Secret Service, and a third by the White House, which will be sending a large entourage to Martha’s Vineyard to accompany the President.

    www dot timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6729772.ece

  50. “We thought Obama stunk.
    Americans increasingly agree with us.”
    I’ve agreed from the beginning and TG I found this site to help keep my sanity!
    MJ,
    I am so sorry about your HC situation. Despite all the problems I’ve had, I am grateful to have had any coverage. Without, i would either be living under a bridge or dead by this point. And, BTW, i DO expect to make full recovery. (again)
    I am also grateful for the opportunity to get treatment. My thoughts are with you.

  51. In 1835 the prescient de Toqueville wrote, “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”

    How’s that for calling it?

    The one feature he didn’t conceive was a president whose only purpose was self aggrandizement.

    The real surprise is the fecklessness of the people. They can tolerate the strutting of these capons like Bush and Barky and think that it is presidential. Our threshold of disgust seems to be gone.

  52. While surfing the net in the wee hours of the morning I was searching for JFK’s biography and found that when you click on his name under http://www.whitehouse.govcom, it takes you too Obama’s Presidential site. I can’t find JFK’s historical information from the WH. I can see all the other Presidents but not JFK. It seems as though Obama has scrubbed the info and put his name and info in place of JFK’s. Gee, I find that unusual, don’t you all??

  53. While surfing the net in the wee hours of the morning I was searching for JFK’s biography and found that as soon as you click on the site it takes you to Obama’s website, and its shows Obama in the WH, not JFK. I can find all the other Presidents, but not JFK. I find that unusual, don’t you?

  54. Unfortunately, Basement Angel, I think it is you who is having a hard time absorbing this. In today’s computerized world, any system can be broken by fraud or criminal activity and has been. You don’t think for a little money, people working in that vital records system or at the hospital could have arranged this. The fact that a document was arranged, and published in the newspaper within a certain timeframe really is not proof where the birth happened. It is just proof that a document went through the system.

    So take this neighbor and have them make a sworn statement with a lawyer that they lived in the neighborhood during this period, they knew this young lady, saw her pregnant, observed that she did not leave the country, and that they were present or very close to present at the new born’s birth. Then give that to O’Rielly. (Oh by the way, so why have they not come forward and given this information about O out, as most people would want their 5 minutes of fame). Also, sworn statement by Dr, and hosptial, and release the actually birth certificate with this information on it.

    It is really not thorough investigative work not to obtain the release of the documents, or have statements from these people. To accept that this system is flawless, is flawed, and you have played into the hands of the O staff who thought no one would really force them to see these documents. Obviously there are reasons why.

    I cannot not imagine why a person representing this country as it President would not want to wear this BC certificate on his sleeve, and have a crowd of people around him, such as Crowley had, stating I will swear in a sworn testimony that this birth took place in America. McCain sure clear this up.

    Something is wrong, and you are an enabler as they will not release those documents unless we all challenge where the birth took place.
    When you do thorough investigative work, you not only obtain the original document, you obtain statements of all the people who could substantiate the fact.

    You do not just accept the fact that a system is in place. Oh by the way, were their investigators that audited that system unknow to the people involved, to check for fraud and accuracy. I highly doubt it. In financial areas they try to do it, but as we have seen, there was a lot of fraud in the books of many large corporations that were audited, who had wonderful systems in place, and publish financial reports that said they were wonderful investments. Many people invested based on this, and lost everything.

    I am not challenging that you investigated, I am asking you to complete the investigation. You have taken the stuff that O staff wants to stop this with, and fallen short of the goal. Don’t buy into it. Ask for the sworn statements and the Certificate.

  55. NMF, good morning! I think you are right, we just don’t know enough about this man to say where he was born. We all know the CIA can and does witness protection and are able to give people new identities. So it is plausible what you are saying could happen.

    I am just wondering why Obama has highjacked JFK’s info on the official WH government website. I can look up all other POTUS’s but not JFK’s. Got any ideas why???

  56. Good Morning Confloyd

    That is interesting, as I though JFK or at least Caroline was a big O fan, so its absence mystyfies me also. There are some reports out on line that the amount of Hits to Os WH website have fallen dramatically in the last few weeks, which might have even been posted on this blog. We get so much information here, I sometimes forget where I have read it.

    Confloyd how are you doing? I know that you are having a rough go of it. I hope that you are getting all the support you need there.

  57. Obama has aura but doesn’t know how to legislate

    By: Michael Barone
    Senior Political Analyst
    July 29, 2009

    Aura dazzles, but argument gets things done. Consider the debate on the Democrats’ health care bill and the increasingly negative response to Barack Obama’s performance. Democrats have the numbers to pass a health care bill — 256 votes in the House, 38 more than the 218 majority; 60 votes in the Senate, enough to defeat a filibuster. But they haven’t come up with the arguments, at least yet, to put those numbers on the board. It’s something not many predicted that bright January inauguration morning.

    We knew that day that Obama was good at aura, at generating enthusiasm for the prospect of hope and change. His inspiring speeches — the Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner in Des Moines, the race speech in Philadelphia, the countless rallies in primary and caucus and target states — helped him capture the Democratic nomination and then win the presidency by the biggest percentage margin in 20 years.

    But it turns out that Obama is not so good at argument. Inspiration is one thing, persuasion another. He created the impression on the campaign trail that he was familiar with major issues and readily ticked off his positions on them. But he has not proved so good at legislating.

    One reason, perhaps, is that he has had little practice. He served as a legislator for a dozen years before becoming president, but was only rarely an active one. He spent one of his eight years as an Illinois state senator running unsuccessfully for Congress and two of them running successfully for U.S. senator. He spent two of his years in the U.S. Senate running for president. During all of his seven non-campaign years as a legislator, he was in the minority party.

    In other words, he’s never done much work putting legislation together — especially legislation that channels vast flows of money and affects the workings of parts of the economy that deeply affect people’s lives. This lack of experience is starting to show. On the major legislation considered this year — the stimulus, cap and trade, health care — the Obama White House has done little or nothing to set down markers, to provide guidance, to establish boundaries and no-go areas.

    The administration could have insisted that the stimulus package concentrate spending in the next year. It didn’t. It could have insisted that the cap-and-trade bill generate the revenue that was supposed to underwrite health care. It didn’t. It could have decided either to seek a bipartisan health care bill or to insist that a Democratic bill be budget-neutral. It didn’t — and it still hasn’t made this basic policy choice.

    Most of Obama’s top White House staffers are politics operatives, not policy wonks. The one leading policy wonk on health care, Budget Director Peter Orszag, has either missed signals of danger or has failed to communicate their seriousness to his colleagues. On Feb. 25, Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf, a Democratic appointee, signaled in testimony to the Senate Finance Committee that the CBO would not credit health care bills with the budget savings the administration was promising.

    Orszag, as a former CBO director himself, should have realized what this meant, which is that Democrats would have to shape their bills accordingly. They didn’t, and were stunned when the CBO came out in June and this month with estimates of little or no savings.

    And someone in the White House should have taken note when 40 Blue Dog Democrats signed a letter dated July 9 warning that they wouldn’t vote for anything like the health care bills being considered in committee. Without those 40 votes, Democrats don’t have a majority in the House. It’s unusual for dissenting members of the majority to set down such a public marker. Predictably, they haven’t backed down so far, despite foot-stomping by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and a chat session with Obama.

    Obama’s July 22 news conference was intended to rally support for the Democrats’ health care bills. It didn’t. The president eschewed serious arguments and rattled off campaign-type talking points. Those used to be enough to elicit cheers from enthusiastic audiences in Iowa and Virginia.

    But aura can only take you so far, particularly when you diminish it by disrespecting the Cambridge police department. Being president means being more than commenter-in-chief. You need to know how to legislate. You need not just aura but argument.

    washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obama-has-aura-but-doesn_t-know-how-to-legislate-8032142-51922177.html

  58. Jan H

    By: Michael Barone
    Senior Political Analyst 10:26

    So why did not this Senior Political Analyst and many more like him not see this Legislative hole during the Primary and the General. That lack of experience, that reluctance of Os to set down and negotiate a compromise was evident and discussed on the blogs. I guess I am not sure he is worth the money that comes with that title if he and the over experts did not see this sooner.

    In Illinois all the legislation was handed to him, yes, little or no time spent actually working any legislation in the Senate, and being a part of the minority party does not prevent you from working legislation. As I remember, HRC did.

  59. Some candid thoughts and snapshots of healthcare today from the provider side:

    I’m just off the phone with my husband (he calls me most every morning from the hospital right before his 9am case management meeting, the sweetie.)

    He and his PA have 45 inpatients in the hospital today. Of those, 21 are uninsured, including 3 in ICU beds. The group he works for does manage to pay him $35 a day for uninsured patients, so at least he gets a little something for their very complicated ICU care. His hospital is on the southside, which is the poorest section of the city

    Meanwhile, another large hospital here in San Antonio is affiliated with the University. It is politically influential, being a big research hospital affiliated with some big name professors, etc. University hospital gets a very generous allowance from Bexar county, paid for with tax dollars, to care for the uninsured. The deal is supposed to be that they are supposed to accept transfers of the uninsured from all the other hospitals here. NONE of the other hospitals get that chunk of money. Sound suspiciously like a certain well-connected hospital in Chicago?

    In the 2 years hubby has worked here, he has had University accept an uninsured patient maybe 5 times. If you call them to try to get one transferred, the answer is invariably “sorry, we don’t have any beds available”. The other docs from outlying hospitals will tell you the same- University almost never agrees to take the uninsured patients they are paid to take. It’s patient dumping, pure and simple, with them making a nice profit from those tax dollars.

    Our system is BROKEN. And if we don’t get real reform (not Obamacare), and soon, it’s going to get worse. I can’t tell you the number of medical professionals I personally know who are discouraged enough to say they are going to just say “fuck it” and get out of the whole profession. These docs and nurses and hospitals can’t keep pulling this load forever. Something’s got to give.

  60. HillaryforTexas

    Interesting educational insight.

    Sounds like we should pull HRC from SOS to present her plan, and lead the negotiations.

    I whole heartedly agree that we need something now, but the KoolAid drinkers and Superduds put in place someone that is not qualified enough to accomplish this, so bring in the true expert.

  61. FYI…

    nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/29/2009-07-29_hillary_camp_is_election_ready.html

    No political race in sight, but Hillary Clinton’s camp is election ready

    Hillary Clinton says running for office isn’t on her “radar,” but she still has an eight-person political team and sports two overflowing campaign war chests.

    Her team transformed the former Democratic White House contender’s massive campaign debts into a $3 million mountain of political cash, according to federal fund-raising records through the end of June.

    Clinton’s failed presidential bid is now $1 million in the black, and her old Senate campaign committee has $2.1 million in the bank, much of it transferred in from the presidential account.

    The former First Lady paid eight staffers nearly $100,000 in the second quarter of the year to tend to the remains of her political empire.

    She officially pulled out of the political arena in January when she became secretary of state. But Clinton’s campaign Web site continues to accept contributions.

    Democratic operatives were surprised at the size of the operation. “She’s got eight?” said one Democrat. “Can I get a job there?”

    By comparison, Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is up for reelection next year, had just three people on staff last quarter.

    One of Clinton’s remaining campaign workers said they were just there to wind down what was essentially a $250 million business, and would soon cut staff to five people.

    The worker noted John Kerry didn’t terminate his 2004 White House campaign for more than three years after he lost.

    The aide also said Team Clinton is looking to liquidate her presidential bank account, either by giving the money to other candidates or donating it to charity.

    Clinton is adamant she’s not running for anything, telling a Thai TV station recently, “That’s not anything that is at all on my radar screen.” And she told ABC News on Sunday, “I’m out of politics.”

    But analysts said as long as Clinton has a campaign committee with millions of dollars in it – dormant or not – she has weight in the political world.

    article continues…

  62. Thanks, basil.

    Um, to the person who asked about Barone, he was brutally honest about Obama’s weaknesses in the primary and wrote some very thoughtful pieces about Clinton, including that she was on her way to winning the greatest share of the white vote in the GE than any candidate since LBJ. I’m pretty sure that was Barone.

  63. Lil Ole Grape

    One more thing on sworn Statements. I have learned the hard way that people will tell you things, but when it comes time to make a sworn statement, either the statement changes, or they will not sign a statement at all. After all, perjury is something you can go to jail for.

    That of course is what got the auditors in trouble. When you close the books, the Chief Financial Officers signs the statement that the facts contained in the report are factual. If they are false, that CFO can and had been prosecuted. Unfortunately systems fail. Sometimes they know the system is fraudulant, and sometimes they really don’t.

  64. I remember BArone saying some sensible stuff during the primary. Sceptical of Obama. He seemed to ignore superficual bullshit and dig some real facts.

  65. http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=51625

    Conyers: Obama Suffers from ‘Rahm Emanuel Factor’–On Health Care, White House is Willing to ‘Make a Deal About Anything’
    Monday, July 27, 2009
    By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter

    (CNSNews.com) – When it comes to health care reform, President Barack Obama has succumbed to the “Rahm Emanuel factor,” meaning he will make a deal about anything, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) told reporters at the National Press Club on Friday.

    Rahm Emanuel is the White House chief of staff and a top political adviser to the president.

    Conyers was complaining about President Obama not pursuing a “single-payer” health care system as the goal of his health-care reform efforts. This is a system that Conyers supports and that he says Obama also used to support.

    “I can remember when Obama agreed with me,” said Conyers.

    As for why Obama changed his mind and now supports the health-care reform proposal under consideration in the House (which would create a “public option” government-run insurance provider to compete with private insurance companies), Conyers told the reporters:

    “I’m just guessing now, because we haven’t talked about it, but he wants it because of the Rahm Emanuel factor. Okay. I’m glad you asked me. The Rahm Emanuel factor, to quote him, is that, look, we want success, and we’re willing to make a deal about anything. Does that make you feel pretty comfortable about health care?”

  66. Barone needs to write an article going back and showing how he has pointed this out date and articles. If he does that, he will establish himself as a more credible analyst, and he would reap the benefits of that.

  67. NMF,

    I have read and posted Barone articles in the past. I would love for him to go back in his archives and write an article that tracks his comments of the primary and bambi. I think it would be very thought-provoking and quite an accurate summary of what actually happened and continues to happen.

  68. NewMexicoFan Says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    When JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country” It was immediately identified as the important sentence in his Inaugural Address. No one is quoting anything from O’s.
    &&&&&&

    Au contrair. Who can forget, “Um, er, I, ah, yeah, whatever you just said”?

  69. Did WE NOT PREDICT THIS!!!!!!!!
    Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak
    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.
    The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
    The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command’s Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.
    The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.
    It has yet to be determined how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.
    Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.
    As a first step, Gates is being asked to sign a so-called “execution order” that would authorize the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the proposed plan.
    Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later, depending on how much of a health threat the flu poses this fall, the officials said.

  70. Ahhhhhhhhhhh the gift that keeps on giving, I guess Obama wishes this would just go away so the day could focus only on the beer conference not a news conference with Lucia Walen the 911 caller.

  71. basil, I don’t have big problems with the military being involved in or training for disaster scenarios like that. They need to be.

    As far as I’m concerned, the clusterfuck of Katrina did not improve until General Tommy Franks finally got there and started knocking heads together and restoring order and moving supplies in an organized manner. They should have had him and his troops there 4 days earlier, IMO.

  72. JULY 29, 2009

    In a Savings Shocker, the Government Discovers That Paper Has Two

    By JONATHAN WEISMAN

    WASHINGTON — With the budget deficit soaring toward $2 trillion, the Department of Justice has figured out how to play its part: double-sided photocopying.

    To cut costs, the Forest Service will stop painting vehicles green.
    There are other acts of national sacrifice. The Forest Service will no longer repaint its new, white vehicles green immediately upon purchase. The Army will start packing more soldiers onto R&R flights. The Navy will delete unused email accounts.

    Three months ago, President Barack Obama ordered his cabinet secretaries to find $100 million in budget cuts for the current fiscal year to emphasize the point that he, too, was serious about belt-tightening. They responded with $102 million. That is 0.006% of the estimated federal deficit.

    The list of 77 spending cuts, which the White House is calling “the $100 million savings challenge,” reflects the vastness of government — and its vast inefficiency. Hundreds of millions of dollars in savings were found simply by casting around for areas to trim.

    Still, the reductions barely scratch the surface. “Some of these cuts are so small they would be a rounding error of a rounding error in the federal budget,” said Brian Riedl, a federal budget expert at the conservative Heritage Foundation. They also show how “unbelievably outdated” the government is, he said.

    “I mean, emailing around the daily press clips instead of printing them out and distributing them? That should not have been necessitated by a presidential order.”

    The Air Force has proposed replacing its specially formulated jet fuel with commercial aviation fuel, which it will top up with some military additives. That will save nearly $52 million next year, when the program begins.

    The Office of Thrift Supervision, a division of the Treasury, identified unused phone lines costing $320,000.

    By increasing the number of soldiers traveling on each airplane chartered for rest-and-relaxation leave, the Army will save $18 million in the next few months. The Navy will save $5 million a year by deleting inactive Internet accounts to configure their computer networks more cheaply.

    FEMA will re-use or sell its emergency trailers.
    The Justice Department estimates it can save $573,000 through fiscal 2010 by setting up its printers and copiers to use both sides of the paper. By emailing some documents instead of printing them out, the Department of Homeland Security will save $318,000.

    Both Homeland Security and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration have pledged to take the same step that has sent the newspaper industry into a tailspin: They will start getting their news online free, rather than renew their subscriptions. Homeland Security will save $47,160, or 0.0000026% of the deficit.

    The Coast Guard realized that maintenance schedules for its 1,800 small boats assumed they were for recreational use such as water-skiing or bass-fishing. By adjusting maintenance schedules to reflect what the Coast Guard actually does, the agency discovered it can save $2 million a year.

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency is going to save $3.8 million by refurbishing and reusing or selling its emergency trailers — like the ones provided to people displaced by hurricanes — instead of ditching them.

    Only one cabinet office proposed actually eliminating a program. The Department of Labor says it will disband the nearly 40-year-old Employment Standards Administration. With it goes an assistant secretary of labor, two deputy assistants and an administrative office.

    A Labor Department official downplayed the move. The ESA’s main activities (enforcing workplace regulation and workers’ rights rules) are alive and well, the official said. They will just have a few less bosses to report to.

    Bureau of Reclamation

    The Beechcraft that will no longer fly government engineers to the Grand Coulee Dam.
    The Bureau of Reclamation’s office in Boise, Idaho, is getting rid of its Beechcraft King Air 200 airplane. It wasn’t a tough call, says Bruce Cassidy, program manager for property and office services. The glamorous, airborne inspections of the west’s vast water projects — a staple of Bureau of Reclamation life since 1956 — is giving way to more the mundane life of the office jockey. Instead of flying engineers out to the Grand Coulee Dam in Washington State, staffers use videoconferencing gear and computer monitoring to keep tabs on the facility. Besides, the bureau’s office in Boulder City, Nev., was looking to upgrade an old aircraft of its own. So it got Boise’s hand-me-down Beechcraft.

    White House budget office spokesman Ken Baer said no one is suggesting the $100-million exercise will close the budget gap. The cost-cutting effort wasn’t a one-off program. This summer, the budget office told each cabinet department to devise a 2011 budget with zero growth, and another with a 5% cut. Before the 2011 budget proposal comes out early next year, the budget office will again go scouting for cost cuts and inefficiencies.

    On Wednesday, the White House budget office will release three sets of guides to press federal agencies to realize $40 billion in savings through procurement and contract-policy changes.

    “The fact that it may seem that there’s a lot of savings that is easily attainable proves a point,” he said. “There’s a lot of change in Washington that has to happen to make sure taxpayer dollars are used effectively and efficiently.”

    Republicans weren’t impressed. If the administration produces $100 million in savings every 98 days for the rest of Mr. Obama’s term, the savings will total $1.5 billion, or three days of interest on the federal debt, said Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

    “These savings tends to be in thousands, tens of thousands and millions,” said Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee. “Our fiscal challenges are in the thousands of billions.”

    online.wsj.com/article/SB124882436513388423.html

  73. I have not run off yet.

    Hillary for Texas, amen, yes, the military should have been at the ready, and Franks in charge. The sign of a good leader, as you know who to trust under you.. I always view Gen Tommy Franks as a crusty old dog, who knews when to follow procedure, and when to call and tell them to move NOW whether they had a written order or not. There is something called Vocal Orders of the Commander. You use it when you have to.

    rgb44hrc

    You had me laughing, of course who could forget the hums and haughs, and the flubbed oath.

  74. Carolyn Lochhead
    San Francisco Chronicle

    Waiting for white smoke from Pelosi’s office

    Seven hours of negotiations took place yesterday in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, with Pelosi, Rep. Henry Waxman and White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel trying to rein in seven Blue Dogs who are threatening to scuttle health care reform.

    Don’t bet on that. The Blue Dogs know that if Democrats fail to pass some reasonable facsimile of health care reform, they and their Prince are finished politically, none more so than the Blue Dogs themselves, many of them from districts Republican John McCain won last year.

    Odd thing is, the Arkansas district of top Blue Dog Mike Ross,probably stands to benefit quite a bit from the House legislation he’s fighting to modify. It’s a poor, depressed rural area a stone’s throw from Hope, where many working people cannot afford health insurance. It’s not a place physicians flock to, and a 63-year-old doctor practicing there now is afraid to retire, knowing that no one will replace him.

    For all the attention slathered on every twist and turn in last year’s presidential race, it might be worth paying attention to the actual governing that the politicians were elected to do.

    It’s a bit shocking to hear from people on government health care programs railing against a government takeover of their health care. Everyone from the president to the lowliest freshman has heard from constituents complaining, “I’m on Medicare, I like it, and I don’t want government running my health care.”

    Another is the horror and revulsion expressed at the idea of paring back the health insurance tax exclusion, a World War II artifact that is responsible for the creation of a health care system no sane person would design. It’s why people are chained to whatever insurance their employers provide, and why if you don’t work for a large employer, you’re out of luck. Ending that exclusion would go a long way toward expanding access, but Obama said no, embracing Pelosi’s surtax on millionaires instead.

    Fact is, there aren’t enough rich people to pay for everything the other 97 percent of Americans want from government.

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=44473

  75. Wednesday, Jul 29

    White House Advisor’s Son Joins HuffPost In Colorado

    FishbowlDC reported last night that White House Senior Advisor David Axelrod has a reason to be a proud papa today. His 22-year-old son, Ethan Axelrod, has managed to snag a highly coveted job in journalism right out of college, working for the Huffington Post as the editor of its new local edition in Denver.

    “I’ve been interested in journalism for a while,” Ethan told The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz, who got the exclusive on the story. “I heard through my father that they were expanding, so I applied for it.”

    HuffPo’s Denver page will be similar to the New York edition, which launched at the end of last month. It will debut in September, Kurtz said.

    Meanwhile, on of the Denver page’s competitors, the Denver Westword was not shy about voicing its thoughts on Ethan’s new gig.

    “On the off chance you were worried the Huffington Post would abandon its storied brand of knee-jerk Obama-ism when it waded into local news, rest easy: Westword learned today that the news site’s forthcoming Denver section will be manned by a guy who literally has to toe the party line, for fear of being uninvited to Thanksgiving dinner,” Westword reporter Joe Tone wrote.

    And, to be fair, the hiring of a young college grad with no journalism experience by the liberal-leaning online pub is pretty suspect. His last name and White House connections definitely had to play a role. Tone calls HuffPo’s decision “an interesting play”:

    It’s not a shock, obviously; HuffPo would probably let Sasha and Malia co-write a fantasy football column if they asked. But still: Especially in the wake of the Rocky’s death, there’s a bit of a dearth of astute local news coverage in town, and some liberal readers no doubt have visions of HuffPo providing a new stop on their daily Internet-news train. That it will be manned by a 22-year-old college grad with no professional journalism experience who’s barely (if ever) lived in Denver — and who happens to be the seed of the President’s top offensive coordinator — is certainly an interesting play.

    It’s a very good point, made scathingly by a local competitor that Ethan will undoubtedly be running into at events around town. But maybe the Denver paper is just upset that it was denied an interview with the new editor.

    “We wanted to interview young Axelrod, but were told they weren’t doing media,” Tone said. “By which they apparently meant that they weren’t doing media with anyone who wasn’t named Howard Kurtz, because not long after our inquiry, the Post’s media critic reported the move, complete with an interview with the kid.”

    Looks like someone will be keeping tabs on Ethan’s tenure, and it’s up to him to prove that he was a better hiring choice than all the other experienced, unemployed journalists in Denver.

    mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/the_revolving_door/white_house_advisors_son_joins_huffpost_in_colorado_122939.asp

  76. I’ve been reading excerpts of these healthcare bills, and I have one concern that is HUGE. Executive power grab, bigtime.

    From everything I’ve read, whoever the “Healthcare Czar” is will have full leeway to pick and choose what standards to apply, and which insurance plans will be accepted, and can change or adjust that at will. And Congress, once the bill is passed, will have ZERO further oversight on that, it will be an entirely executive branch deal.

    Can we say “insurance companies who play ball and make nice campaign contributions will get preference”, kiddies? It could end up the biggest Chicago style pay-to-play scheme ever created.

  77. JANH WHITE SMOKE SIGHTED

    BREAKING NEWS

    Deal brokered in House to move Health Care Reform along.

  78. conspiracy theory ? hmm…O insults the cambridge police and offends police depts all across the country…and SUDDENLY the stimulus money for police depts is released with positive national headlines

    for example, in massachusetts $$$ to police depts…timing? coincidence?

    bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090729new_bedford_to_rehire_13_police_officers_with_federal_stimulus_money/srvc=home&position=recent

    Over the next three years, the department will receive $2.41 million in federal stimulus money — the second most of 13 law enforcement agencies in Massachusetts.

    Under the grant’s terms, the Police Department must use the money to pay for the officers’ salaries and benefits. The department also must retain the officers for one year after the grant expires.

    Police Chief Ronald E. Teachman said he received telephone calls Tuesday from the offices of U.S. Rep. Barney Frank and Sens. John F. Kerry and Edward M. Kennedy assuring him the federal money was forthcoming.

    Read the full story at the Standard-Times.

    *********************

    a little controversary and the stimulus $$$ surges right to the top…just saying…

  79. S,

    I read about the police stimulus grants yesterday. Definitely trying to change the message. I say take bambi for every last penny!

  80. Hmmmmm…..

    Just saw this on Drudge.
    So House Dems HAVE reached agreement?????

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives have reached a deal with a group of fiscal conservatives in their own party on how to move forward with healthcare legislation, a leading lawmaker said on Tuesday.

    Representative Mike Ross, who leads the so-called “Blue Dog” conservative coalition, said they had reached a deal with leadership after days of long negotiations.

    CNN said that under the agreement, a healthcare bill would be moved to committee by Friday but that the full House would not take the issue up until September after it returns from its month-long break.

  81. CRITICIZE PRESIDENT, LOSE YOUR JOB

    Lesson: if you don’t have something positive to say about Dear Leader, do it anonymously.

    nytimes.com/2009/07/29/nyregion/29fired.html

    Facebook Postings Prompt Quick Exit of a City Politician’s Aide
    =======================================

    By SEWELL CHAN
    Published: July 28, 2009

    The arrest of the Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. on a disorderly conduct charge — later dropped — has prompted discussion about race and policing in America, particularly after President Obama weighed in (and later backed away from initial remarks) on the episode.

    The ramifications have reached far beyond Cambridge, Mass., and Washington. On Monday, a young aide to a New York City politician resigned after posting comments on her Facebook page about the controversy.

    The aide, Lee Landor, who had been the deputy press secretary to the Manhattan borough president, Scott M. Stringer, since May, posted comments on her Facebook page criticizing Mr. Gates and the president, whom she referred to at one point as “O-dumb-a.”

    The reaction was swift after word of Ms. Landor’s online comments spread in city government circles on Monday.

    “Ms. Landor’s comments were totally inappropriate and in direct contradiction to the views of the borough president and his office,” Dick Riley, Mr. Stringer’s communications director, said in a statement on Monday evening. “The borough president has accepted Ms. Landor’s resignation, effective immediately.”

    Ms. Landor, a graduate of the State University of New York at New Paltz, had worked as a reporter for The Queens Tribune, as a spokeswoman for Councilman James F. Gennaro of Queens, and as an editor for The Queens Chronicle before joining Mr. Stringer’s staff. She did not respond to a request for comment on Monday evening, and as of Monday night her Facebook page had been deactivated. The Web site City Hall News reported on Ms. Landor’s dismissal on Monday night.

    Images of the Facebook posts — which were captured before the page was deactivated and provided to The New York Times on Monday afternoon — showed that Ms. Landor engaged in a spirited discussion of the Gates case with other users of the social networking site.

    Ms. Landor wrote in one post, “O-dumb-a, the situation got ‘out of hand’ because Gates is a racist, not because the officer was DOING HIS JOB!”

    In response to one Facebook user who voiced disagreement, Ms. Landor referred to Professor Gates using a vulgarity and added: “And racial profiling does exist, but for good reason. Take a look at this country’s jails: who makes up the majority of inmates? Exactly.”

    In another Facebook post, Ms. Landor wrote, “You know what, I am really getting SICK of hearing about how white people are evil racists.” She added: “I get it — white men have dominated for hundreds of years and there’s a lot of anger there. But HOW MUCH MORE can the white people do to correct past injustices of their ancestors?”

    Even as politicians use social media to get their message out — Mr. Stringer, for example, maintains a blog, a Facebook page and a Twitter feed — the potential perils of the new online tools stand out.

  82. gonzotx Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    YA all know that 10-17 million of the “uninsured” are illegals. They don’t talk about that . I really am offended that I have to pay for their health care.
    &&&&&

    I totally agree. “There are those who say…” …that uninsured illegals should get free emergency room visits, especially when they could be spreading something communicable. But that goes right back to square one: why are they here exposing people to risk?

    I know, I know, “Who else is going to pick lettuce for two cents an hour?” We should be paying people a living wage, and if that means small businesses’ (farmers’) costs will go up, then maybe government subsidies are an idea to consider.

    After all, Mega-Financial Institutions A, B, and C were “too big to fail”. Shouldn’t Big Guv agree that the collapse of our own food production system is too important to let fail????

    Ya know, just thinking aloud here.

  83. JanH Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
    Wednesday, Jul 29

    White House Advisor’s Son Joins HuffPost In Colorado

    FishbowlDC reported last night that White House Senior Advisor David Axelrod has a reason to be a proud papa today. His 22-year-old son, Ethan Axelrod, has managed to snag a highly coveted job in journalism right out of college, working for the Huffington Post as the editor of its new local edition in Denver.

    “I’ve been interested in journalism for a while,” Ethan told The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz, who got the exclusive on the story. “I heard through my father that they were expanding, so I applied for it.”
    &&&&&&&

    HuffPost expanding, hmmmm?

    Could it be, that as (unofficial) government mouthpiece, they qualify for “stimulus” funding? I mean, it’s creating jobs. Right there, jobs for well-connected newbies fresh out of college.

    HuffPost might as well write: “We welcome on board Ethan Axelrod. He brings with him a wealth of inexperience, which we find refreshing in any position, including President”.

  84. “HuffPost might as well write: “We welcome on board Ethan Axelrod. He brings with him a wealth of inexperience, which we find refreshing in any position, including President”.”

    ————————-

    Exactly!

  85. NMF,

    There is absolutely no way they can justify hiring Axelrod’s son. It is pure political patronage at it’s worst.

  86. I have a hunch that President Hillary isvery active at this moment with her campaign to retreive her rightful seat in the Oval Office that the DNC so blatantly stole from her and presented them to the world’s self declared “The worlds greatest black leader”.The CROCK runneth over oh great one.
    Last week we heard she was deeply in debt ans trying to raise money to pay them off before she quits and goes into retirement.The truth is according to her greatest supporters is that she owes nothing and has an enormous war chest standing ready to move when the time is right .This outstanding LADY is the talk and the hope of many foreign leaders an their peoples that she will RETURN. I get as many as 20 e-Mails a day from the State Dept Dipnote site and they contain all of her daily and hourly activities and events and every word that she speaks is absolutely amazing.OUR GIRL knows exactly what she has to do to save our country and
    SHE IS DOING.step by step.Obama has to be worried big time and there is no way that he can stop her momentum 24/7

  87. ABM90 You have to wonder what is going on.

    However, I still think something will pass for Health Cover Reform, and will be touted as he has met the challenge, with a rise in the polls The Blue Dog Democrats, after they have ridden this for all it is worth, will have to compromise on something, and pass something so they look like they folded in, got the best deal they could, and can go back to their voters, and say they did the best they could (whether you liked it or not). In addtion to facing there voters, they have to work through the State Democratic Party.

    The questions are,

    1. Will the damage have been done, and the perception of legislative ignorance remain

    2. How quickly will the actual legislative bill be understood by everyone, and how it impacts them.

    When Bush screwed up Katrina, it did not seem to matter what he did after that, as the damage had been done. It is kind of like when one spouse cheats on the other. The other never really trusts the spouse again, and the majority of time it leads to divorce.

  88. From Cam424

    Obama Commits Perjury (Twice)

    Barack Obama has consciously and repeatedly avoided leaving any footprints in his 49 years. His life is completely undocumented (see here).

    However, during the campaign, Obama signed two documents in which he swears (or affirms) that he is eligible for the office of the President of The United States, one from the Commonwealth of Virginia, and another from the State of Arizona.

    On the candidacy form for the Commonwealth of Virginia, date stamped, December 13, 2007, Obama made the following statement:

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that all of the information in this Nomination Paper is true, that as to these and all other qualifications, I am qualified to hold the office that I seek, having fulfilled the United States constitutional requirements for holding said office. I further swear (or affirm) that I have fulfilled Arizona’s statutory requirement for placing my name on its Presidential Preference Election ballot.”

    On the Candidate Nomination Paper form for the State of Arizona, date stamped, December 13, 2007, Obama made the following statement:

    “I am a natural born citizen of the United States, am at least thirty-five years of age, and have been a resident within the United States for at least fourteen years.”

    Obama can’t run away from these documents. No wonder he is fighting the release of his bona fides so ferociously. Eligibility
    7/25/09 CNN Boss Leans On Lou Dobbs

    CNN/U.S. president Jon Klein sent an email to a handful of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” staffers last night regarding the coverage of the so-called Birthers and the validity of Obama’s eligibility.

    In part, Klein writes, “It seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.” Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Obama’s original birth certificate.

    If Klein’s statement is true, then this official statement, dated October 31, 2008, from state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino is false:

    “Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

    If what Klein says is true, Fukino is lying. If what Fukino says is true, Klein is lying. It’s one or the other, isn’t it?

    Klein may be the king of the dung heap at CNN, but this story is far from dead.

    The simple fact, that Klein, Chris Matthews, Brian Williams, John Stewart and even The New York Times, are addressing the eligibility issue on a daily basis now is clear evidence that the eligibility question is never, ever, going to go away. It will dog Obama until he goes back to Chicago — or releases his bona fides.

    The Times writes, “Advocates of the issue, who are sometimes called Birthers, have succeeded in calling attention to themselves through frequent calls to talk radio shows, e-mail messages to news organizations and a videotaped question at a Congressional town hall. The Associated Press said that Obama’s citizenship status had been one of the most popular topics for the wire service’s ‘Ask AP’ column.”

    A few months ago, Birthers numbered in the hundreds. Now, they number in the millions. Millions of Americans are demanding — “Obama, show us the birth certificate”

    “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandhi

    We are currently at Ghandi’s stage three.

  89. Typically a President gets to bring in his own ‘Kitchen Cabinet”, but in O’s case, what is so unusual, is that he has people who covered him as supposed objective journalists now as a significant part of his administration and has infiltrated MSM news, both in print and TV. with is people….very dangerous imo.

  90. DIMS SHOOTING AT BOTH FEET…WITH OBAMA LEADING THE WAY

    Even their own pet medium is biting the hand that feeds it.

    politico.com/news/stories/0709/25539.html

    Backlash: Democratic dangers mount
    ==========================

    Democrats giddy with possibilities only six months ago now confront a perilous 2010 landscape signaled by troublesome signs of President Barack Obama’s political mortality, the plunging popularity of many governors and rising disquiet among many vulnerable House Democrats.

    The issue advantage has shifted as well, with Democrats facing the brunt of criticism about the pace of stimulus package spending, anxiety over rising unemployment rates and widespread uneasiness over the twin pillars of Obama’s legislative agenda: his cap-and-trade approach to climate change and the emerging health care bill.

    Bolstered by historical trends that work in the GOP’s favor — midterm elections are typically hostile to the party in power — and the prospect of the first election in a decade without former President George W. Bush either on the ballot or in office, Republicans find themselves on the offensive for the first time since 2004.

    None of this is to say that the Democratic congressional majorities are in serious jeopardy. The GOP has suffered some significant setbacks, ranging from headline-grabbing personal indiscretions to Sen. Arlen Specter’s party switch, and it continues to be plagued by an inability to present its own new ideas.

    Yet the possibilities GOP officials now imagine are a dramatic shift from the bleak prospects that the 2010 midterm elections presented for the party at the beginning of the year.

    Back then, the newly elected president was fresh off a sweeping victory and riding a wave of inaugural goodwill. The Republican Party’s standing had seemingly hit rock bottom in the polls. The enormous Democratic House majority looked unassailable, and the party’s advantage in the Senate looked nearly as formidable, with the GOP forced to defend more Senate seats in total in 2010 than Democrats — a predicament exacerbated by a handful of Republican retirements in key battleground states.

    “There’s a sense building among Republicans that 2010 is going to be a far better political environment than 2008 or 2006,” said GOP pollster Whit Ayres. “Part of that is because we have a Democratic president and a Democratic-controlled Senate and House that are promoting fiscally dangerous policies for the future of the country. Part of it is we don’t have the burden of Iraq as we did in 2006 and don’t have the economy on the Republicans’ watch as we had in 2008.”

    In one sign of the reconfigured landscape, Republican candidates lead in the polls in this fall’s closely watched gubernatorial elections — in New Jersey and Virginia. In New Jersey, where first-term Democrat Gov. Jon Corzine trails his challenger by double digits, a far-reaching corruption investigation has led to the resignation of one member of Corzine’s Cabinet and insider speculation about whether Corzine should be replaced on the ticket in November by a more viable Democratic nominee.

    Corzine, who has shown no indication he’s willing or interested in stepping down, isn’t the only Democratic governor buffeted by the political winds. A handful of Democrats whose seats are up for election in 2010, including Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, have recently seen their approval ratings plummet below 40 percent — dangerous territory for an incumbent.

    In New York, Gov. David Paterson faces similarly daunting numbers, and other first-term Democratic governors from Ohio to Iowa to Colorado have also seen their approval ratings move in the wrong direction. In Pennsylvania, a recent Quinnipiac University poll reported Gov. Ed Rendell with the lowest approval rating of his two terms in office.

    “What’s hurting the Democrats badly is that people are afraid of the deficit and spending. They don’t see signs of economic growth, and people are worried,” said GOP pollster John McLaughlin. “If you look at the economy right now, voters gave the Democrats benefit of the doubt, they thought the stimulus would work, unemployment would recede — and they’re finding out now it’s not the case.”

    The polls tell only part of the story. National Republicans have recently met with success in persuading a number of top recruits to commit to 2010 races that not so long ago looked considerably less attractive — the surest signal that potential GOP candidates view the playing field as less tilted against them than just a few months earlier.

    One of them, former state Sen. Steve Stivers — who lost narrowly to Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy (D-Ohio) in 2008 — announced he’d seek a rematch earlier this month, citing the growing debt and Ohio’s double-digit unemployment rate.

    Another highly sought-after GOP recruit, state Sen. Alan Nunnelee, plans to declare his candidacy later this week against Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.), who was elected to Congress in a 2008 special-election upset. His announcement comes amid 11 percent unemployment in the congressional district, with one county’s rate running as high as 16.9 percent in June.

    “They see the Congress spending at a rate we’ve not seen in years; they’re making commitments for future generations — and we’re not seeing any results,” said Nunnelee. “Somebody needs to step up and hold the Obama administration accountable.”

    Former Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) also recently committed to running in 2010, putting aside his gubernatorial ambitions to try to reclaim the House seat he held for six years. His decision came on the heels of the energy and climate bill that narrowly passed the House on June 26 — an exceptionally tough vote for freshman Rep. Harry Teague (D-N.M.), who represents an oil-and-gas-producing district.

    “[Teague’s] cap-and-trade vote is the thing that put my decision over the hump,” said Pearce. “There are 23,000 statewide jobs in the oil and gas industry — and if this bill is passed, this will kill many of those jobs.”

    Two notable Republican Senate candidates considered uniquely suited to running in their Democratic-leaning states — former New Hampshire Attorney General Kelly Ayotte and Illinois Rep. Mark Kirk — also committed to running in recent weeks, in states that Obama carried easily in 2008.

    Because of GOP retirements in key battleground states, Republicans will be fortunate just to hold down their losses in the Senate next year. Still, if nothing else, the outlook is not nearly as grim as in January, when Republicans were poised to defend 19 seats to just 15 for the Democrats.

    Now, as a result of Obama’s and Vice President Joe Biden’s resignation from the Senate, and the appointment of two Democratic senators to Cabinet positions, both parties are now defending 18 seats each in 2010 — with Democrats defending four seats now held by appointed senators that suddenly look more competitive than they would have been otherwise.

    “The fact that [Republicans] have a bunch of open seats to hold and an unfavorable map to deal with will probably serve to limit their gains,” said Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. “I think [National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John] Cornyn’s efforts will have been a tremendous success if the NRSC holds their own in the 2010 elections, setting the table for significant 2012 gains.”

    For Republicans, the news isn’t entirely promising. There’s been no surge in GOP voter registration and little evidence that the party brand is experiencing a recovery. Last month, a New York Times/CBS poll reported that the GOP’s favorability ratings remained at a record-breaking low — 28 percent, down from a high of 59 percent in November 1994.

    “You can’t turn around in a year what, in fact, had accumulated over the economic policies of the failed Bush policies over the past eight years,” Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) told POLITICO. “Their top candidates continue to be largely a throwback to the past and are embracing the out-of-touch positions Republicans have shown on the economy.”

    There are other factors that stand to reset the 2010 landscape once again and return the commanding heights to the Democrats — particularly a resurgence of the economy and if Congress can point to significant legislative accomplishments.

    “How the economy is doing a year from now is going to have a major impact on what the cycle is like for us,” said veteran Democratic consultant Jason Ralston, who has developed media campaigns for House, Senate and gubernatorial candidates. “It’s understandable voters are anxious. The question is, six months to a year from now, do they feel that the economy has turned the corner?”

  91. Jul 29 2009, 11:15 am by Chris Good

    People Think Health Care Reform Will Hurt Them

    This is bad news for the Democratic reform effort: Gallup reports today that, according to its latest polling, more Americans than not think health care reform will hurt their own medical care and make it more expensive…though they think it will improve quality and access nationally.

    So on the three main questions of health care–quality, access, and cost–people think President Obama’s initiative will make things worse for themselves on all three fronts…and that it will make things better for the nation in two out of three categories.

    (There’s a fundamental discrepancy here: health care reform can’t help the nation across the board, while at the same time hurting most individuals.)

    The public narrative, this poll implies, is that health care reform means a tradeoff: is it worth more expenses and worse care for me, the average Gallup respondent, to improve quality and access across the board?

    This is specifically not how Obama wanted to paint the health care issue. In speeches and town-hall events, the president has argued that health care is a pressing need for you, that you could lose your health insurance or go broke if we don’t pass a reform bill–that it’s not about the millions of people without health insurance, per se, but rather about skyocketing costs that make the current system untenable. His reforms are supposed to preserve quality, improve access, and drive costs down.

    According to Gallup, the public doesn’t believe him–at least on how reforms would affect them personally.

    If Gallup’s polling is right, the health care issue pits altruism against self-interest in the public mind. And it’s a tough day for any initiative when people, on average, think it will hurt them personally, even if they see a solid upside for the rest of the nation.

    politics.theatlantic.com/2009/07/people_think_health_care_reform_will_hurt_them.php

  92. Did you know that during the summer, congress determines who the hottest new member of congress is, and to my chagrin, our new Representative from NM, Martin Heinrich won.

    h t t p://feyfriends.com/2008/11/hot-members.html

    I am kind of amazed that they would have a contest like that, but then I guess I have lost all kinds of respect for the group at this point.

    In defense of Martin Heinrich, having met him a few times, I think he is a little embarassed by this title.

  93. But if the president saw his numbers down, Congress fared far worse, with just 7 percent saying they approved strongly and 25 percent saying they approved somewhat. A 61 percent majority said they disapproved of Congress, with 2 out of 3 of them doing so strongly.

    ——————————————

    When you read figures like this you got to wonder if people are going to vote Republican next year to make a change and put in some balance and check again. I can well believe it, its happened before. I predict the house going Republican again and the Senate becoming a little more balanced. Gonna be interesting.

  94. Former Republican Sen Pierce put asside his desire to run for Gov, as the latest polls done 15 Jun show him behind LTG Diane Denish 35 to 57. As you heard me say before, Diane was with HRC until the end. She raised $500K this last quarter and her war chest is about $1.8M I think at this point.

    There are O Dems that will Challenger her (Patricia Madrid who lost to Wilson in 2006), but we are going to fight hard for Diane in this state. Patricia went whole hog O. Diane Denish and Martin Chavez, running for Mayor again this fal,l were staunch supporters of HRC, and one of the reasons I say registered as a Democrat

  95. I want anyone who helped Hillary last year, elected next year, whereas anyone who screwed her over for O-hole can go to hell. I will not support ANYONE who screwed her over.

  96. A few months ago, Birthers numbered in the hundreds. Now, they number in the millions. Millions of Americans are demanding — “Obama, show us the birth certificate”

    “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandhi

    We are currently at Ghandi’s stage three.
    ******************************

    So true!

  97. basil9 Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    Hmmmmm…..

    Just saw this on Drudge.
    So House Dems HAVE reached agreement?????
    *****************************

    You know they will pass some kind of crap so the fool can sign it and act as if he just put universal health care in and, oh ya, the CLINTON’S failed!

    I hope everyone here writes their congressmen and woman and screams about this mess. It really is not too late, but time is short. We need help, but not this crap.

  98. gonzotx

    Remember this just gets it out of the committee. It does not get it passed yet by the house of Reps.

  99. From Bitterpol
    *********************

    i would not let it pass these dims to do these backgroom shenanigans

    ACTION ITEM

    From the Desk of:
    Steve Elliott, President, Grassfire.org Alliance

    Two shadowy back-room deals are being struck right now in
    Congress as part of the Obama-Reid-Pelosi push to advance
    socialized healthcare before the August “recess.”

    In the House, Blue Dog Democrats are reviewing a private
    “compromise” that would advance ObamaCare to the House floor
    as soon as this Friday. Meanwhile in the Senate, six Senators
    are working behind closed doors on a bill that would allow
    the Senate to move ObamaCare through committee in the next
    few days.

    THAT MEANS TWO CLOSED-DOOR, BACK-ROOM
    DEALS ARE BEING STRUCK RIGHT NOW TO PUSH
    US TO THE BRINK OF OBAMACARE THIS WEEK!

    In both cases, details have not been released. We are simply
    told to trust members of Congress with the future of our
    health care and then accept their final vote.

    If they get ObamaCare passed through the House and through the
    Senate Finance Committee this week, most of their work will be
    done. The Democrats will then simply iron out the differences
    (i.e. revert to the full ObamaCare blueprint).

    + + Next 48 hours crucial

    The next 48 hours are crucial and we must now fight this battle
    on two fronts — the House and the Senate.

    That’s why we have just expanded our FaxFire campaign to include
    the six Senators who are striking the back-room deal.

    Even if you have done so already, please
    go here right now to send your faxes opposing
    socialized health care to key members of this House
    committee along with the six Senate negotiators,
    your two Senators and Representative:

    grassfire.net/r.asp?U=20543&CID=122&RID=21643702

    (As always, if you want to send your own faxes, we have provided
    the fax numbers and sample text for you. Just click here to
    access that information:

    grassfire.net/r.asp?U=20544&CID=122&RID=21643702

    + + Action #2 — Call your Representative and the “Senate Six”!

    Your Member of Congress will likely cast a vote this week on
    socialized ObamaCare. Call today and make sure your voice
    is heard:

    Rep. Franks 202-225-4576

    Or, call the House Switchboard: 202-224-3121

    Also, call the “Senate Six” and tell them you do NOT want any
    government mandate program that further burdens our economy,
    undermines the private sector and creates a federal healthcare
    mandate on businesses or individuals.

    The “Senate Six”:
    Max Baucus: 202-224-2651
    Chuck Grassley: 202-224-3744
    Kent Conrad: 202-224-2043
    Jeff Bingaman: 202-224-5521
    Olympia Snowe: 202-224-5344
    Mike Enzi: 202–224-3424

    Talking Points:

    #1 — I am outraged that the House and Senate are fast-tracking
    the President’s socialized healthcare plan this week.

    #2 — I do not want the government to have more control and
    influence over my health care. That is why I reject House
    health care bill (H.R. 3200) and the soon-to-be-released
    Senate “compromise” plan that still creates a federal mandate.

    #3 — America cannot afford the $1.5 trillion price tag of
    socialized health care during these difficult economic
    times. I flatly reject any health care proposal that
    increases costs or imposes new taxes on any American.

    Again, we are now fighting a two-front battle THIS WEEK that
    could determine whether socialized ObamaCare becomes a reality
    this year.

    Please… schedule your faxes right now:

    grassfire.net/r.asp?U=20545&CID=122&RID=21643702

    And please alert your friends. Thanks for taking action.

    Steve Elliott, President
    Grassfire.org

  100. It really is not too late, but time is short. We need help, but not this crap.
    **********
    Exactly…unfortunately the major push to kill this mess is coming from the right-wing/pro-Insurance groups. Obama and the Dem leadership are just as bought and paid for as the Republicans, so whether this Bill passes or doesn’t, it’s win-win for the Insurance Companies. When Obama and the Dem leadership said single-payer is off the table, any hope of helping middle-class working Americans get health care went out the window. If the current legislation becomes law, the majority of people who work and can’t afford health insurance won’t be any better off. The only change will be that they will have to deal with the paper work to get an exemption from the fines.

  101. Well, you just seem far to the right on Hill’s signature issue, which is health care. This bill looks like it was written by Republicans.

  102. No political race in sight, but Hillary Clinton’s camp is election-ready
    BY Michael Mcauliff
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

    Updated Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:32 AM

    Garcia/Bloomberg

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaks at a news conference earlier this month.

    Take our PollHillary Presidential Plans
    Hillary Clinton says running for future office isn’t on her radar, but she’s got an army of campaign staffers and millions of dollars on hand, so do you believe her?

    Yes, her presidential moment is passed, so what else could she do?

    No, the Clintons keep coming back. This won’t be her last post.

    Not sure.

    WASHINGTON – Hillary Clinton says running for office isn’t on her “radar,” but she still has an eight-person political team and sports two overflowing campaign war chests.

    Her team transformed the former Democratic White House contender’s massive campaign debts into a $3 million mountain of political cash, according to federal fund-raising records through the end of June.

    Clinton’s failed presidential bid is now $1 million in the black, and her old Senate campaign committee has $2.1 million in the bank, much of it transferred in from the presidential account.

    The former First Lady paid eight staffers nearly $100,000 in the second quarter of the year to tend to the remains of her political empire.

    She officially pulled out of the political arena in January when she became secretary of state. But Clinton’s campaign Web site continues to accept contributions.

    Democratic operatives were surprised at the size of the operation. “She’s got eight?” said one Democrat. “Can I get a job there?”

    By comparison, Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is up for reelection next year, had just three people on staff last quarter.

    One of Clinton’s remaining campaign workers said they were just there to wind down what was essentially a $250 million business, and would soon cut staff to five people.

    The worker noted John Kerry didn’t terminate his 2004 White House campaign for more than three years after he lost.

    The aide also said Team Clinton is looking to liquidate her presidential bank account, either by giving the money to other candidates or donating it to charity.

    Clinton is adamant she’s not running for anything, telling a Thai TV station recently, “That’s not anything that is at all on my radar screen.” And she told ABC News on Sunday, “I’m out of politics.”

    But analysts said as long as Clinton has a campaign committee with millions of dollars in it – dormant or not – she has weight in the political world.

    “It raises questions about that nascent presidential campaign for 2016 – and she didn’t close the door on that, if you read her remarks carefully,” said the University of Virginia’s Larry Sabato.

    “Just having the committee and the money gives her political clout, if she ever needs it,” Sabato said.

    A former Clinton senior campaign aide told the Daily News that her current job running the State Department would position her perfectly for a White House campaign redux.

    “It answers the last question about her: can she run something?” the aide said. “And it’s a huge platform.”

    mmcauliff@nydailynews.com

    Read more: nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/29/2009-07-29_hillary_camp_is_election_ready.html#ixzz0Mh0s1lJL

  103. Well, you keep posting crap about “socialized” medicine, and this certainly isn’t a liberal bill, so…

  104. Dammed if they do, and dammed if they don’t.

    The American public will not be pleased with the price tag. In addition, this action will affect everyone. I am really not sure if it is worst to shove this stuff up everyones Axx or fail to pass anything.

  105. From Bitterpol (for MP it is a right wing conspiracy site)
    ****************************

    House Democrat holdouts agree to move forward on health careStory Highlights
    NEW: Some Blue Dogs say they’ve reached compromise

    NEW: Vote by full House not expected until after August recess

    Obama pushing health care reform at town hall meetings in North Carolina, Virginia

    (CNN) — An agreement announced Wednesday between four fiscally conservative House Democrats and the chamber’s Democratic leadership allowed committee debate to resume on a bill to overhaul the nation’s health care system.

    President Obama stresses the urgency of health care reform at a town hall meeting in Raleigh, North Carolina.

    However, the deal put off a vote by the full House on President Obama’s top domestic priority until after the August recess.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and the House majority leader, Steny Hoyer of Maryland, announced that the Energy and Commerce Committee would begin debate later Wednesday on the health care bill and pass it by the end of the week.

    It is the last of three House committees required to pass the bill before it goes to the full chamber.

    The committee’s version would be merged during the August break, which begins Friday, with versions passed by two other House panels, according to the statement from Pelosi and Hoyer. The final version would be debated by the full House when legislators return to Washington in September, the statement said.

    Obama and Democratic leaders had wanted both the House and Senate to approve bills before the break. The Senate has announced that the full chamber won’t get a bill until September, after its Finance Committee produces a bipartisan compromise.

    The House deal with four of the so-called Blue Dog Democrats was announced as Obama hit the road to build more public support for his health plan.

    In a statement issued by the White House, Obama thanked members of both the House and Senate, including “some Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee,” for “working so hard to find common ground.”

    “Those efforts are extraordinarily constructive in strengthening this legislation and bringing down its cost,” Obama said.

    Earlier in the day, Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas, speaking for four Blue Dog Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said that the agreement called for the panel to begin debating the bill later in the day but for the full House not to vote until after the August recess.

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    Ross and the Blue Dogs had threatened to derail the bill in the committee because of concerns that it costs too much and fails to address systemic problems in the nation’s ailing health care industry.

    The Blue Dogs had presented committee Chairman Henry Waxman with a list of 10 items that they wanted changed in health care reform proposals. Neither side revealed what the 10 items were.

    Ross said the deal between four Blue Dogs on the House committee, the House Democratic leadership and the White House lowers the cost of the House health care reform plan by $100 billion and also exempts businesses with payrolls below $500,000 from having to provide health coverage for workers.

    He also said the bill’s government-funded public insurance option — a key provision for Obama and Democratic leaders — would be a choice for consumers instead of coverage forced on people without health insurance.

    It was not immediately clear Wednesday whether any Blue Dogs beyond the four who made the agreement would sign on. A statement issued by the Blue Dog coalition noted that the group had delayed House consideration of the bill until September to provide more time to address concerns.

    The statement said there was no consensus within the coalition on the health care issue.

    “While it appears ongoing negotiations at the committee level have yielded a number of important concessions in the direction of our principles, many Blue Dogs remain concerned with various aspects of the bill draft,” the statement said, adding, “The 52-member Blue Dog Coalition has not taken a group position on the draft health care legislation that is working through the committee process.”

    Republican opponents of the public option and some Democrats warn that such a not-for-profit plan would have a competitive advantage over private insurers and eventually wipe them out.

    House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, also criticized the House agreement, calling it a “raw deal for the American people.”

    “Sadly, it proves once again that the so-called Blue Dogs have no bite when they’re forced to choose between their constituents and the radical leadership of their party,” Boehner said.

    The announcement by the Blue Dog Democrats came as Obama held a town hall meeting on health care in Raleigh, North Carolina. Another town hall meeting took place later Wednesday at a Kroger grocery store in Bristol, Virginia.

    If Congress fails to act soon, Obama warned the Raleigh audience, health costs will double over the next decade, make millions more Americans uninsured and bankrupt government on both the state and federal levels.

    He also brushed aside criticism that the plan is being rushed through Congress without adequate time for review and debate.

    Lawmakers will have plenty of time to read the bill, Obama insisted. Noting that Congress won’t finish deliberating the legislation until after its August recess, Obama said he’d be willing to invite any representative or senator over to the White House to review the bill “line by line.”

    At a second town hall meeting Wednesday — near the produce aisle in a Kroger supermarket in rural Bristol, Virginia, on the border with Tennessee — the president repeated assurances that his health care plan won’t change Medicare benefits for senior citizens.

    Asked about rumors that his plan would put senior citizens “out to pasture,” Obama complained of “scare tactics” by opponents of the health care overhaul.

    “Medicare is in place, and as long as I’m there and even long after I’m gone, Medicare will still be in place. We’re not going to mess with Medicare,” Obama said.

    He added that he wants to improve the efficiency of Medicare by reducing excessive tests and other unnecessary costs, and negotiating lower drug costs with pharmaceutical companies.

    Earlier Wednesday, CNN obtained an e-mail from a top aide of Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus that aimed to debunk a Washington Post headline that negotiators in that chamber were close to a deal.

    “While progress has been made in recent days, neither an accord nor an announcement is imminent,” wrote Russ Sullivan, Democratic staff director for the committee. “In fact, significant policy issues remain to be discussed among the Members, and any one of these issues could preclude bipartisan agreement.”

    Although several senators have been more upbeat about the negotiators’ progress over the past 24 hours, there is also concern about managing expectations and about backlash from senators left out of negotiations who have not been briefed on all the details of the talks.

    Still, Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa told National Public Radio on Wednesday morning that they are “on the edge” of a deal this week

  106. This thing must fail. It does nothing but make the middle class permanent indentured servants to the insurers.

  107. mj Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    Well, you keep posting crap
    *****************************

    Ah, I believe it is in the eyes of the beholder, or should I say reader. I don’t agree with you so my postings are crap. Have a wipe…

  108. Well, it seems the Dems have reached a “compromise” on healthcare (read a cave-in to the insurance companies and Obama cronies.)

    Hubby has just been on the phone with several friends – a nephrologist, a couple of internists, and a family practice doc. Every one of them has said the practice of medicine has become too damn depressing, and ALL of them plan to get OUT by 2015. He will be planning his retirement from this fucked-up system himself, as well

    We may consider going back to Italy, or he and several friends are talking about getting together, saying EFF YOU to the insurance companies, and trying something like this:

    http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2008/12/22/seattle-docs-via-qliance-aim-to-revolutionize-health-care-by-freezing-out-insurance/

  109. Well, it seems the Dems have reached a “compromise” on healthcare (read a cave-in to the insurance companies and Obama cronies.)

    Hubby has just been on the phone with several friends – a nephrologist, a couple of internists, and a family practice doc. Every one of them has said the practice of medicine has become too damn depressing, and ALL of them plan to get OUT by 2015. He will be planning his retirement from this fucked-up system himself, as well

    We may consider going back to Italy, or he and several friends are talking about getting together, saying EFF YOU to the insurance companies, and trying something like this:

    xconomy.com/seattle/2008/12/22/seattle-docs-via-qliance-aim-to-revolutionize-health-care-by-freezing-out-insurance/

  110. mj Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
    This thing must fail. It does nothing but make the middle class permanent indentured servants to the insurers.
    **************************************
    Oh Oh, you are sounding so Republican… better watch it!

  111. No I am not. I would be completely on board with Medicare for All. I refuse to sell out my country to private, for-profit insurers. There is nothing Republican about that.

  112. HillaryforTexas Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
    ***************************

    You mean he doesn’t want to take care of 50 million more people for half the money and higher taxes? How unAmerican and Republican of you!

  113. Get on the phones, go to their offices, protest. Put the BeJesus in them. It’s worth a try. I know all our calls and letters did diddley squat for Hill, but, maybe.

  114. ADMIN!!!!!!!

    PLEEEEZEEE EMBED>

    The Cambridge caller speaks about the tapes.
    that poor woman. What BO and the f***ing media out her through is despicable.

    www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=WcNL59gw7YA

  115. Harvard Professor Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him
    Two Men at Center of Controversy Linked by Irish Heritage
    By NIALL O’DOWD
    IrishCentral.com Publisher
    July 28, 2009
    Henry Louis Gates Jr., the black professor at the center of the racial story involving his arrest outside his Harvard University-owned house, has spoken proudly of his Irish roots.

    AP graphic of Cambridge Police Officer James Crowley, left, and Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., who share an Irish lineage.
    (AP Graphic)Strangely enough, he and the Cambridge, Mass., police officer who arrested him, Sgt. James Crowley, both trace their ancestry back to the legendary Niall of the Nine Hostages.

    In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish immigrant and a slave girl.

    He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he found that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the Nine Hostages, the fourth century warlord who created one of the dominant strains of Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring.

  116. Got the link @ BP
    ****************************

    Deal with ‘Blue Dogs’ sets up health care vote

    AP – Obama retools pitch on health care overhaul

    – Henry Waxman, D-Calif., speaks after he and other Blue Dog Democrats met with President Barack Obama … By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent – Wed Jul 29, 4:05 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – After weeks of turmoil, House Democrats reached a shaky peace with the party’s rebellious rank-and-file conservatives Wednesday and cleared the way for a vote in September on sweeping health care legislation.

    Bipartisan Senate negotiators reported progress, too, on a bill to extend coverage to 95 percent of all Americans without raising federal deficits. “We’re on the edge, we’re almost there,” said Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the senior Republican involved in the secretive Senate talks.

    Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Finance Committee, said preliminary estimates from congressional budget experts showed the cost of the emerging Senate plan was below $900 billion and would result in an increase in employer-sponsored insurance — conclusions that may reassure critics who fear a bloated bill that prompts businesses to abandon the coverage they currently provide.

    Across the Capitol, House Democratic leaders gave in to numerous demands from rank-and-file rebels, so-called Blue Dogs from the conservative wing of the party who had been blocking the bill’s passage in the last of three committees.

    The House changes, which drew immediate opposition from liberals in the chamber, would reduce the federal subsidies designed to help lower-income families afford insurance, exempt additional businesses from a requirement to offer insurance to their workers and change the terms of a government insurance option.

    At their core, both the House bill and the plan under negotiation in the Senate are designed to meet President Barack Obama’s goals of spreading health coverage to millions who now lack it, while slowing the skyrocketing growth in health care costs nationally.

    Obama has placed the issue atop his domestic agenda, and as recently as two weeks ago was pressing the House and Senate insistently to pass separate bills by the end of July or early August.

    The White House issued a statement praising the development in the House, and with appearances in North Carolina and Virginia, the president sought to minimize the significance of the slippage in his timetable.

    “We did give them a deadline, and sort of we missed that deadline. But that’s OK,” Obama said. “We don’t want to just do it quickly, we want to do it right.”

    In his appearances, Obama stressed that any legislation he signs will include numerous consumer protections, including a ban on insurance company denials of coverage based on pre-existing medical conditions.

    Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas, a leader of conservative and moderate “Blue Dog” Democrats, said the changes agreed to by the leadership would cut the cost of the House bill by about $100 billion over 10 years.

    While Baucus reported the Senate Finance measure carried a price tag of under $1 trillion, congressional officials said it included only the cost of the first year of a 10-year, $245 billion program to increase doctor fees under Medicare. House Democrats used a similar sleight of hand, excluding the entire $245 billion when claiming their measure wouldn’t add to the deficit.

    The House deal was worked out over hours of talks that involved not only the chamber’s leaders but also White House officials eager to advance the bill. It was unclear, though, what commitments Speaker Nancy Pelosi or the administration may have made to support the agreement once the bill advances to the floor this fall.

    As word of the agreement spread, liberals fired back. “We do not support this,” said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., head of the Progressive Caucus. “I think they have no idea how many people are against this. They can’t possibly be taking us seriously if they’re going to bring this forward.”

    Whatever the longer-term ramifications, Democrats said the way was now clear for the Energy and Commerce Committee to approve its portion of the legislation, the last step before it comes to the floor for a vote.

    “We’re hoping to get a bill out before we leave … this week,” said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California, the panel’s chairman.

    In the Senate, Baucus, Grassley and two other senators from each party have been negotiating for weeks in hopes of agreeing on compromise legislation. Both men face considerable pressure from their respective parties — Baucus not to stray too far from Democratic objectives, Grassley not to hand the president a political victory.

    Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has given Baucus months to see compromise across party lines is possible, and he told reporters during the day he expects a bipartisan plan to emerge.

    The pace of decisions appears to have accelerated in recent days, with negotiators all but settling on a tax on high-cost insurance plans to help pay for the bill, as well as a new mechanism designed to curtail the growth of Medicare over the next 10 years and beyond.

    More problematic from the Democrats’ point of view is a tentative agreement to omit a provision in which the government would sell insurance in competition with private industry. In its place, the group is expected to recommend non-profit cooperatives that could operate at the state, regional or even national level.

    Nor is any bipartisan recommendation likely to include a requirement for large businesses to offer insurance to their workers. Instead, they would have a choice between offering coverage or paying a portion of any government subsidy that non-insured employees would receive.

    Like the House bill, the bipartisan proposal under discussion would expand eligibility for Medicaid to 133 percent of the federal poverty level.

    It provides for federal subsidies for individuals and families up to 300 percent of poverty, less than the 400 percent in the House measure.

    Even if the negotiations succeed before the Senate’s vacation, it is not clear when the Finance Committee would vote.

    The proposal would have to be blended with a more liberal measure that was approved last month by the Senate Health, Education Labor and Pensions Committee. It would then go to the Senate floor, where Democrats have 60-40 majority rather than the 3-3 lineup that Baucus and Grassley have led for months.

    _____

    Associated Press Writers Liz Sidoti, Alan Fram, Erica Werner and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this story.

  117. gonzotx Says:

    July 29th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    From Bitterpol

    ———————————————————————————–

    This bill is not socialized medicine. It is a boon to the insurance and drug companies. The middle class will be SOL.

  118. Bird

    I know, this is why I don’t support it. It is a wolf in sheeps clothing and we will be paying 60% min tax to get worse care and support illegals and the other 50 % that don’t pay into the system.

    It’s socialized welfare for the rich corporations.

  119. Did anyone watch Lou Dobbs tonight? He was talking about how few members read the stimulus bill before voting for it because it was so lengthy.

    Now the Health Care bill is supposed to be more than 1000 pages long. I wonder who if any have read their way through it. Not bambi for sure.

    Says a lot for the decision making in this White House…

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