Big Media And The Obama Birth Certificate Issue And “Whitey”

Update: Updated with video (at end) of several Cambridge police officers (African-American police officers too) speaking out in support of Sergeant Crowley.
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Here at Big Pink we have never ever never posted an article discussing the Obama Birth Certificate Issue.

On occasion some comments are posted in our comments section discussing the Obama Birth Certificate Issue. But there are so many Obama flim-flams, lies, boobery and scams that we have to pick and choose among them and cannot cover every Obama controversy (for instance we have never never ever discussed Larry Sinclair nor the famous “whitey” tape controversy).

Some Hillary supporters websites will not allow any discussion whatsoever of the Birth Certificate Issue for various reasons, none of which we will explore here.

But today, the Birth Certificate Issue has hit a high water mark and we will comment on one aspect of the controversy.

What has struck us today is how Big Media is covering the Obama Birth Certificate issue.

According to Big Media and the narrative Big Media is now fully engaged in pushing – the Birth Certificate Issue is now a very big problem – for REPUBLICANS!!!!!!

That’s right, according to Big Media an Obama problem which grows daily and has now busted full out on broadcast news, cable news, and at White House press briefings is now magically a Republican problem. UNbelievable. The Big Media protection of Obama continues.

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Ben Smith at Politico is not a stupid man but he acts stupid in order to protect Obama. Ben Smith is not alone in acting stupid with reporting that can only be described as dishonest. Ben Smith and other Big Media Obama protectors well know, they must know because they are not stupid, that the Birth Certificate Issue is about the thus far unseen Obama Birth Certificate.

Ben Smith and the Obama Big Media protectors are not stupid and they must know that there is a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate. But the Obama Big Media protectors act dumb in order to deceive and protect Obama by pretending they do not understand the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate.

Ben Smith and other Big Media Obama protectors then pretend that Obama is being transparent and open by not producing the document that is at the center of the controversy – the Birth Certificate.

Ben Smith today continues to act stupid using the insulting term “Birthers”. He does ackowledge that the Birth Certificate Issue is a growing presence on the political landscape:

The wave of publicity for the Birther movement hasn’t yet crested, with the dentist who’s the movement’s leading legal light, Orly Taitz, saying she’s taping the Colbert Report tomorrow, and popping up elsewhere in the mainstream media.

Not only has the Birth Certificate Issue not “yet crested”, Ben Smith wants us to believe that it is Republicans who will be hurt by Obama’s problem!!!

Sorry about all the Birther chatter on this site today, which may have something to do with the fact that I spent an hour this morning on NPR’s “On Point” talking about the subject this morning. (The segment is worth a listen, if only for Birther leader Orly Taitz, DDS, ESQ, calling me a “briownshirt.”)

The other two guests had more to say, though, and made interesting points about the dangers the movement poses.

The conservative talk radio host Michael Medved defended the conservative movement from blame for the conspiracy theories, noting the theorists’ overlap with 9/11 conspiracy theorists, and that its roots aren’t particularly in the organized Republican Party. But he also warned of the danger to the right from embracing this line of argument, and criticized Liz Cheney specifically. [snip]

That danger is being realized at the moment, as various Republican legislators express, when asked, some degree of sympathy with the discredited theory. Mike Stark easily got several House Republicans to express some doubts. (Video below.)

On NPR, the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Heidi Beirich suggested that the movement, and its encouragement on talk radio, also poses a more serious, physical danger.

Mike Stark, whose video Ben Smith posted, is a DailyKooks poster who now works for Arriana Huffington’s pro-Obama slimesite. Earlier in the day Ben Smith had noted in an unrelated piece that Huff n’ Puff is one of the leading shock troops for Obama’s Brownshirts:

Last month, Arianna Huffington took offense at my writing about the “symbiosis” between Huffington Post and the White House, suggesting (gasp!) that HuffPost is “left leaning” and part of “the new partisan media,” and writing that “what’s good for the Huffington Post is good for the White House, and vice versa.”

Arriana and her Obama website and Ben Smith and Politico are clearly trying to shift, unconvincingly, the Birth Certificate problem from Obama to Republicans. Today it was the lead propaganda effort at Politico with even more Politico writers acting dumb:

When lawmakers return home for recess in August, they can expect to hear tough questions from constituents on the economy, health care and government spending.

But Republicans are preparing for something else: the birthers.

As GOP Rep. Mike Castle learned the hard way back home in Delaware this month, there’s no easy way to deal with the small but vocal crowd of right-wing activists who refuse to believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States.

At a town hall meeting in Georgetown, a woman demanded to know why Castle and his colleagues were “ignoring” questions about Obama’s birth certificate — questions that have been put to rest repeatedly by state officials in Hawaii, where the birth certificate and all other credible evidence show that Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

In that dishonest report Politico once again acts dumb by pretending they do not understand the difference between a Birth Certificate and a Certificate of Live Birth. Thus far no Birth Certificate has been produced for Barack Obama and that is what is fueling suspicion and anger.

Instead of asking why no Birth Certificate has been produced by Obama (remember he made all those promises to be “transparent”) Big Media prefers to act dumb and deceive news consumers.

[Larry Johnson at NoQuarter has some interesting video on the differences between Birth Certificates, Amended Birth Certificates and a Certificate of Live Birth along with a batch of other theories for those wishing to explore those issues.]

Again, Big Media is acting dumb, pretending not to understand the arguments made by those demanding to see the actual Obama Birth Certificate. Lou Dobbs tried to explain the issue in the best way we have thus far seen, but Obama lover Roland Martin went nuts (as the youtube demonstrates):



For his rational efforts to explain the Birth Certificate Issue in an honest way to his viewers, Lou Dobbs was attacked. Forget the marketplace of ideas and the First Amendment. Big Media Obama lovers (redundant, we know) act dumb and get applause, Lou Dobbs treats the public as adults and gets slammed by The Southern Poverty Law Center via (surprise!) The Huffington Post:

The Lou Dobbs “Birthers” saga may be coming to a close. This morning, the President of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a major civil rights group, wrote a letter calling on CNN President Jon Klein to remove CNN host Lou Dobbs from the air. The request stems from a segment on Dobbs’ radio show this past Tuesday where Dobbs did his part to keep alive the conspiracy theory that President Obama is not an American citizen (AKA the “birther” theory). On air, he speculated: “I’m starting to think we have a document issue. You suppose he’s un… no, I won’t even use the word undocumented, it wouldn’t be right.”

CNN tried to shut Lou Dobbs up, but that did not go so well. Most of Big Media continues to act dumb and not ask the simple question: Where’s the Birth Certificate and why has it not been produced?



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Should we be surprised that Big Media continues to protect Obama? No. Big Media will continue to deceive and protect.

Recall the latest Obama race-baiting to protect his friend from Harvard, Henry Louis Gates. Remember how Gates denied he was yelling and in fact could not yell because of a throat condition? Remember how Gates race-baited yet denied he was racially motivated but that the cops were bigots? Remember that Obama called the Cambridge cops “stupid”?

Today, some tapes on the Gates saga were released. Gates was yelling (therefore lying). There was no mention of race initiated by the caller in the 911 call. Gates was “not cooperative” when he should have been grateful.



Big Media protected Harvard prof Gates . Why didn’t Big Media note Gates calling out “whitey” in his past?

“As always, whitey now sits in judgment of me, preparing to cast my fate. It is your decision either to let me blow with the wind as a nonentity or to encourage the development of self. Allow me to prove myself.”

Gates race-baited and Obama race-baited.

Big Media protected them both.

Big Media continues to protect Obama even if it has to act stupid and dumb to do so.

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163 thoughts on “Big Media And The Obama Birth Certificate Issue And “Whitey”

  1. ADMIN!!!!!!

    Can you PLEEEEZE embed this clip of Crowley’s AA friends supporting him and telling CNN’s Don Lemon they will not support BO again?

    Now this is post-racial!

    http colon slashslash myprops dot org/content/Cambridge-cops-support-Crowley/
    (Now I’m gonna read your words of wisdom)

  2. How ridiculous is it that bambi won’t produce his REAL birth certificate? If there isn’t any problem, then why the subterfuge? And how far does this scandal/potential coverup go? Did the dims/handlers/bullies/Clinton attackers know ahead of time that he wasn’t a citizen? Were they caught off guard, willing to do anything to keep their wunderkind on top, willing to do anything to destroy Hillary’s chances? Does this issue have legs? Damn right it does. And the media can call it a conspiracy if they want, but it isn’t the “birthers” who are conspiring here. It is the dims and the media who’s lists of conspiracies are growing by the minute.

  3. I’m having a hard time believing it, but I actually agreed with a comment by Robert Zimmerman on Lou Dobbs today.

    They were talking about the Gates incident and racial profiling. He surprised Lou and said that the real profiling going on in the last few years was “police profiling” by the media et al and it should stop.

  4. I don’t give a sh*t about the BC, I just wish that they would release the names of the Coal Company, Health Care, Big Pharma, etc. lobbyists who have open access to the White House. Also the Obama Administration invoking the legal doctrine of Sovereign Immunity is also a bit worrisome. Worse than Bush!!!!

  5. I dont care who you are but i could find my birth cert in seconds, its in that big ole shoebox momma kept all important documents and dont lie because you all know your mother had one and we all do it now.

    Its bull, mostly everyone can find that document if they wanted.

  6. I read somewhere that the problem is that BO’s NAME was different on the original certificate and the decision was made to keep that quiet to try and prevent any possible confusion about his citizenship – that his name on the BC was BARRY, not Barrack, and that’s all there is to it.

    But they bungled this strategy and now the cover-up of that innocent fact is proving worse than the truth. (As usual)

    I thought it was an interesting theory. Can’t remember where I read it.

  7. I don’t think it’s got anything at all to do with citizenship, I just think his name was Barry on the original, not Barack, then it was amended later to Soetero or whatever the hell his stepdad’s name was.

    Axelrove decided at the first to keep it under wraps because they were paranoid about the whole name-changing and Muslim thing. They figured any “unusualness” surrounding his name or heritage was going to feed into that “secret Muslim” frenzy, so they tried to hide it, Now they are just being stubborn.

  8. Thank you for discussing this. As I have stated previously, I have examined many vital records. Even the official birth certifcates, made out by the hosptials, in today’s world, can be wrong. A report of Live birth is a statement by someone, in this case the Mother, that O was born in HI. No one could blame O’s mother for wanting him to be born in American. After all Gov Richardson’s mother travel to LA to specifically make him an American citizen at his birth.

    However, what I don’t understand is O’Reilly crucifying Liddy over supposedly calling O’s mother a liar, while the letter written by O’s Grandmother in which she said she witness the birth is completely ignored, calling her the liar. Again, I state, that many times in our history, we have asked for such affadavides as a letter of a relative who were present at birth to correct or establish birth records.

    I cannot say which is the liar, but obviously someone is.

    I too am curious that this is flaming up at this point. Could it have something to do with the recent California ruling in which the judge said he would review the information, and they are getting scared? After all this was suppose to go away.

    McCain had a validate birth certificate from a military hospital, not a certificate of live Birth. We know that he qualifies to run for the Presidency.

    Again, it would be amazing if we have at least one Judge willing to hear this case. The Rest of them have folded in.

  9. moononpluto

    My mother had such a box, fire proof, and that is where she kept our birth certifcates. There might be something to the change of name, and also that he got foreign student scholarship help, which is why his college records are closed. If that is all the issue is, this charade has cost them close to a $1M now in legal fees.

  10. What’s funny to me is that while they are having conniptions over this as if it is horrible and unprecedented to question these things, no one had such qualms over whether the question ought to even be asked when it was McCain’s status in question. There were three suits filed in court demanding he produce his.

  11. I don’t think it’s got anything at all to do with citizenship, I just think his name was Barry on the original, not Barack, then it was amended later to Soetero or whatever the hell his stepdad’s name was.
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    If there is an issue with the BC that is the most likely scenario….The McCain situation was a more legitimate question, of “natural born” in the Canal Zone…The who issue could have been resolved if an issue was made about Barry Goldwater’s status when he was the Republican nominee..but no one did so the SC still hasn’t said what “Natural Born” means.

  12. Thanks Basil9. We embedded the clip you provided as well as updated the article by adding the video at the end.

  13. Martin, Brazil. Cooper, Borger, Gergen, and Blitzer did everything they could to protect Obama from scrutiny while distorting Hillay and Bills.

  14. Thanks, Admin- for embedding basil’s clip.

    I accessed the link before it was posted and thought it was dynamite!

    It looks like the Brotherhood is preparing to go all the way with it. It may not turn out to be a court case, but it will be a stick in Obama’s eye for months to come.

    Obama’s “stupid” remark just came back to bite him, exposing him for the racist he always was… Israel is doing a good job labeling Obama a racist as well.

    story at:

    pumasunleshed.wordpress.com

  15. It’s a great video. Our favorite part is when the cop (woman, African-American) says how she will vote in future.

  16. The low life Hannity again degrading Hillary again about her interview on MTP Sun. and what she said and what she really meant.He is again pushing Palin for a run in 2012.He is one of the most disgusting persons and a Morris
    clone.How could one Chicago community organizer create such a poisoned atmosphere and racial division just to run for office and destroy America as a great nation so that he can become the black leader of the world?

  17. Admin: Great article and I have been the one that kept everyone up on the BC issue because I think there is some kind of a coverup on the issue by the BO folks. No one pays 1 mil in attorney’s fees to fight something that is just a simple problem. It doesn’t make since. He won or at least cheated his way into the Presidency, so why doesnt’ he and Axelrove just come out and say, they were worried about the muslim issue and we did not want it to be an issue during the election?
    I think that everyone is right, he was born in Hawaii under the name of Barry Obama, then mom got married and then he became Barry Soetoro. I think his college records bares the name Barry soetoro foreign student. I think he got many schlorships as a foreign student and he was really a us citizen. In otherwards he gamed the system for his education, now that would be something worth a million dollars to cover up.

  18. ABM90, Hannity, Morris, Beck(crybaby),Rush and the rest of those jerks need to be put in the middle of island and left there. They are air pollution and not worth the air that they take in everyday.

  19. Hannity and Morris are two of the most despicable Clinton haters on the air. Great is the only Clinton friendly person on that station imo. CNN and MSNBC equally anti Clinton. ABC and CBS more fair, but not great.

  20. I’m thinking that we should be getting another kodak moment from bambi pretty soon. I think it will be a polished up version of his nonsensical “racism” speech that he gave months ago.

    It makes sense that he has to turn this around and fast. Won’t work, but desperation breeds desperation.

  21. First, why not fess up and show the documents, and if he has to pay the Univeristy back. Would that have cost $1 Million dollars? Instead, you want to hide what ever is there, and lie about it.

    People are getting frustrated, as viewed by that meeting where they showed up. The AA supporting him acted like he has been elected, and he is God. Indicated he is above the people and the law.

    Then he jumps in like a fool, yes a fool, without all the facts. One has to ask, does he do that in other important issues, like the rushing of the Stimulus bill, which looks so pathetic now. Is this the example of representing all the People of the United States from Day 1?

  22. I guess I think he is going to get that Kodak moment with the health Care Issue. He has to pass something, as unfortunately, his beloved media has made it so important. However, the people will have plenty of time to figure out what is in what ever bill they pass, in time for the 2010 election, and for sure the 2012.

    He would have been better off, waiting intil 2011, which would have gotten him through re-election without people recognizing how bad the bill was for them.

  23. Hannity is a pig. Greta on Fox is good, and even OReilly, though he’s a pompous windbag at times, is not a pig like Hannity. Bill O does some good interviews and stuff if he’s in the mood.

    Hannity is the only one on Fox that I absolutely cannot stomach, and not just because he hates Hilary so much he drips with it. He’s just a freaking arrogant, insular, stubbornly ideological, blind pig.

  24. He would have been better off, waiting intil 2011, which would have gotten him through re-election without people recognizing how bad the bill was for them.
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    If the current POS legislation becomes law, keeps on schedule and works perfectly, the first un-insured American won’t get any medical coverage until at least 2013 and the full impact of the bamboozel won’t hit until 2019.

  25. July 28, 2009
    Op-Ed Contributor
    Why Won’t Obama Talk to Israel?

    By ALUF BENN
    TEL AVIV

    IN his global tours and TV appearances, President Obama has spoken to Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Western Europeans, Eastern Europeans, Russians and Africans. His words have stirred emotions and been well received everywhere.

    But he hasn’t bothered to speak directly to Israelis.

    And the effect? Six months into his presidency, Israelis find themselves increasingly suspicious of Mr. Obama. All they see is American pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to freeze settlements, a request that’s been interpreted here as political arm-twisting meant to please the Arab street at Israel’s expense — or simply to express the president’s dislike for Mr. Netanyahu.

    This would seem counterproductive, given the importance the president has placed on resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. If Israel is part of the problem, it’s also part of the solution. Yet so far, neither the president nor any senior administration official has given a speech or an interview aimed at an Israeli audience, beyond brief statements made at diplomatic photo ops.

    The Arabs got the Cairo speech; we got silence.

    This policy of ignoring Israel carries a price. Though Mr. Obama has succeeded in prodding Mr. Netanyahu to accept the idea of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, he has failed to induce Israel to impose a freeze on settlements. In fact, he has failed even to stir debate about the merits of one: no Israeli political figure has stood up to Mr. Netanyahu and begged him to support Mr. Obama; not even the Israeli left, desperate for a new agenda, has adopted Mr. Obama as its icon.

    As a result, Mr. Netanyahu enjoys a virtual domestic consensus over his rejection of the settlement freeze. Moreover, he has succeeded in portraying Mr. Obama as a shaky ally. In Mr. Netanyahu’s narrative, the president has fallen under the influence of top aides — in this case Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod — whom the prime minister has called “self-hating Jews.” Meanwhile, Mr. Netanyahu is the defender of national glory in face of unfair pressure, someone who sticks to the first commandment of Israeli culture: thou shalt never be the freier (that is, the dupe).

    So far, Israelis have embraced Mr. Netanyahu’s message. A Jerusalem Post poll of Israeli Jews last month indicated that only 6 percent of those surveyed considered the Obama administration to be pro-Israel, while 50 percent said that its policies are more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli. Less scientifically: Israeli rightists have — in columns, articles and public statements — taken to calling the president by his middle name, Hussein, as proof of his pro-Arab tendencies.

    What went wrong? Several explanations come to mind.

    First, in the 16 rosy years of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Israelis became spoiled by unfettered presidential attention. Memories of State Department “Arabists” leading American policy in the Middle East were erased. The White House coordinated its policy with Jerusalem, and stayed out of the way when Israel embarked on controversial military offensives in Lebanon and Gaza. This approach infuriated America’s Arab and European allies, which blamed Washington for one-sidedness — something they were willing to forgive of Bill Clinton but not of George W. Bush.

    Mr. Obama came to office determined to repair America’s broken alliances in Europe and the Middle East. One way to do this — to prove that he was the opposite of his predecessor — was to place some distance between Israel and himself.

    Second, Mr. Obama’s quest for diplomacy has appeared to Israelis as dangerous American naïveté. The president offered a hand to the Iranians, and got nothing, merely giving them more time to advance their nuclear program. In Israeli eyes, he was humiliated by North Korea’s nuclear and missile tests. And he failed to move Arab governments to take steps to normalize relations with Israel. Conclusion: Mr. Obama is a softie, eager to please his listeners and avoid confrontation with anyone who is not Mr. Netanyahu.

    Third, Mr. Obama seems to have confused American Jews with Israelis. We are close emotionally and politically, but we are different. We speak Hebrew and not English, we live in the Middle East and have separate historical narratives. Mr. Obama’s stop at Buchenwald and his strong rejection of Holocaust denial, immediately after his Cairo speech, appealed to American Jews but fell flat in Israel. Here we are taught that Zionist determination and struggle — not guilt over the Holocaust — brought Jews a homeland. Mr. Obama’s speech, which linked Israel’s existence to the Jewish tragedy, infuriated many Israelis who sensed its closeness to the narrative of enemies like Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.

    Fourth, as far as most Israelis are concerned, Mr. Obama has made a mistake in focusing on a settlement freeze. For starters, mainstream Israelis rarely have anything to do with the settlements; many have no idea where they are, even when they’re a half-hour’s drive from Tel Aviv.

    More important: in the past decade, repeated peace negotiations and diplomatic statements have indicated that larger, closer-to-home settlements (the “settlement blocs”) will remain in Israeli hands under any two-state solution. Why, then, insist on a total freeze everywhere? And why deny with such force — as the administration did — the existence of previous understandings between the United States and Israel over limited settlement construction? There is simply too much evidence proving that such an understanding existed. To Israelis, the claim undermined Mr. Obama’s credibility — and strengthened Mr. Netanyahu’s position.

    Perhaps there are good reasons behind Mr. Obama’s Middle East policy. Perhaps the settlement freeze is in Israel’s best interest. Perhaps the president is truly committed to Israel’s long-term security and well-being. Perhaps his popularity in the Arab street is the missing ingredient of peacemaking.

    But until the president talks to us, we won’t know. Next time you’re in the neighborhood, Mr. President, speak to us directly. We will surely listen.

    Aluf Benn is the editor at large of the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

    nytimes.com/2009/07/28/opinion/28benn.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

  26. SHV Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
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    It only took 11 months to enact Medicare. Why is this POS taking so long? Election reasons.

  27. White House Defends Biden as ‘Asset’ After Controversy Over Russia Remarks

    Vice President Biden stirred controversy when he suggested that Russia would cooperate with the United States because the country is in a state of sharp decline.

    FOXNews.com
    Monday, July 27, 2009

    White House Press Secretary Roberts Gibbs on Monday called Vice President Biden an “enormous asset to the administration,” insisting that the loose-lipped No. 2 is not a distraction even after the State Department had to walk back his thorny comments on Russia.

    The vice president is known for his blunt, and sometimes off-color, commentary on issues ranging from swine flu to immigrants to President Obama’s teleprompter. The latest surprise came when he suggested that Russia will cooperate with the United States on a range of issues because the country is a mess.

    “I think we vastly underestimate the hand that we hold,” Biden said during an interview with The Wall Street Journal at the end of his trip to Georgia and Ukraine. “Russia has to make some very difficult, calculated decisions. They have a shrinking population base, they have a withering economy, they have a banking sector and structure that is not likely to be able to withstand the next 15 years, they’re in a situation where the world is changing before them and they’re clinging to something in the past that is not sustainable.”

    This drew a swift rebuke from the Kremlin, as the Obama administration has repeatedly said it wants to “reset” relations with Russia. The two countries produced a string of agreements on nuclear stockpile reduction and other matters following Obama’s recent trip to Moscow.

    Sergei Prikhodko, an aide to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, was quoted in the Interfax news agency calling Biden’s remarks perplexing.

    “The U.S. vice president’s intention to tie this serious work (on cutting nuclear weapons stockpiles) to economic reasons rather than to the responsibility that Russia and the U.S. bear to the international community are absolutely incomprehensible,” he said.

    Prikhodko acknowledged Russia’s economic problems, but blamed them on “reckless” behavior by U.S. institutions.

    Asked about Biden’s remarks on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Biden did not mean to suggest that the United States has the upper hand with Russia.

    She called Russia a “great power” and said there is an “enormous amount” of work being done to strengthen their relationship.

    “It takes time, it takes trust-building. And we want what the president called for during his recent Moscow summit. We want a strong, peaceful and prosperous Russia,” she said Sunday.

    She made clear that the United States has its terms. She said the administration will insist that Russia cannot have a “sphere of influence” in the former Soviet states in Eastern Europe.

    “The Russians know that, you know, we have continuing questions about some of their policies, and they have continuing questions about some of ours,” she said. But she praised Russia for its help in pressuring Iran and North Korea, and repeated that Russia and the United States are resetting their relationship.

    Asked about the Biden remarks Monday morning, Gibbs neither supported nor rejected them.

    He said both Obama and Biden believe better relations with Russia is in the national interest of both countries.

    The issue came up again at the daily press briefing Monday afternoon. Gibbs dismissed talk that Biden was a distraction, saying the administration is “enormously helped” by his work in implementing the stimulus package and seeking reconciliation among factions in Iraq.

    foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/27/white-house-defends-biden-asset-despite-controversy-russia-remarks/

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    I think that Biden is being given “busy work” to keep him out of trouble. If anyone is being marginalized it is him.

  28. JanH Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    I’m thinking that we should be getting another kodak moment from bambi pretty soon. I think it will be a polished up version of his nonsensical “racism” speech that he gave months ago.

    It makes sense that he has to turn this around and fast. Won’t work, but desperation breeds desperation.
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    I am sure we are in for the next “great race speech”. This time we will be told that the fraud “cured” race issues, over a “beer” in the WH with a representative from the “black” community (Gates) and one from the “White” community (Crowley).
    There will be no further race conflicts in America. He has said it, so it has been done!

  29. July 28, 2009

    $20m holiday home at Blue Heron Farm suits Barack Obama to a tee

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6729772.ece

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    So who is footing the bill for this?

  30. yeah, gonzo, OReilly is a sexist. But some nights I can stomach him in order to get some info, and some nights I can’t. Hannity I can’t watch at ALL.

  31. There must be something behind the BC, it has had legs for some time despite the cover up and dismissal by the Media. I really don’t think he is an American Citizen, too much $$$$ and the “Fraud” doth protest too much I fear.

    The “birthers” label is just put out there to ridicule anyone who supports it. Similar interestingly enough to the name “breeders” given to heterosexual people from the gay community.

  32. It only took 11 months to enact Medicare. Why is this POS taking so long? Election reasons.
    *****
    Amazing isn’t it. 11 months after LBJ signed the law, (after Republicans tried to stop it, arguing that medical care is a privilege) 45 million people were covered and began receiving benefits. No fancy data processing, computers etc. We seniors hate our gubmint, single-payer, socialized medicine….we are burning our Medicare cards.

  33. Glenn (crybaby) Beck is horrible. Riverdaughter and some of the other blogs that I visit regularly have been putting this pig on their website over and over. Its a shame they agree with him on anything. He’s a recovering alcoholic, probably drinking was the only way he could stand himself. I do like Greta, she is a good reporter and gives an honest acct. of what has happened.

  34. From BP, hot off the press!
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    njbitchysexyinx // July 27, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Man, they are going to great lengths to try and stop the “birthers”.

    Something big is brewing, I can feel it!!!

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    Resolution Proclaiming Hawaii Obama’s Birthplace Passes House Unanimously

    huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/house-to-consider-counter_n_245741.html

  35. Can anyone tell me if that interview gave to msnbc was the first that network has got from her since the primary?? I think it was and still they put that cackle on right in front of her. They are all disgusting and I agree with SP, since her son and many others fight for freedom of speech, “in honor of our military, just quit making things up”. No truer words have been spoken. Just quit making crap up on people.

  36. gonzotx Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    There must be something behind the BC, it has had legs for some time despite the cover up and dismissal by the Media. I really don’t think he is an American Citizen, too much $$$$ and the “Fraud” doth protest too much I fear.

    The “birthers” label is just put out there to ridicule anyone who supports it.

    =======================

    Any coverage of the BC issue is presented as coverage of the ‘birthers’. Just as, instantly, any coverage of the Tea Parties was presented as coverage of the ‘Teabaggers.’

  37. confloyd, I have not seen Beck on Riverdaughter, and I am there every day. I can;t think of any of the regulars there who like Beck at all.

  38. gonzotex, OMG, that for sure is that the house was in on the deception, including the rethugs. OMG, its time to fight to get our country back!!

  39. # JanH Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    $20m holiday home at Blue Heron Farm suits Barack Obama to a tee

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6729772.ece
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    So who is footing the bill for this?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    From what I’ve read, renting Blue Heron carrys a price tag of $35,000/wk. Supposedly, Obama is paying out of his own pocket for the vacation. So they say- Obama is grooving to be the next MC Hammer…

  40. Hfor T, maybe its RBO, I sorry I hope I did not name the wrong blog. I see him all over the place.

  41. gonzo, they are just doing the same thing they did with the similar brouhaha over McCain’s BC. They passed a senate resolution for him too.

  42. I had not realized that Odumbo has not spoken to Israel. Larouche says he is impeachable right now. Lets do it!!

  43. gonzotx:

    “Something big is brewing, I can feel it!!”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yup, I feel it too. When? After Chelsea’s wedding he’s gonna get sh*t canned!

  44. yeah, some of the PUMA sites have had a lot of Beck, but not The Confluence (riverdaughter blog). They stay pretty sane. You probably had them confused with another.

    Beck is a pig, too. He sometimes says and brings attention to things about O that no one else will, so I suppose I’m glad for that, but I still can’t stand him. He is high on his newfound success, and has zerp intelligence.

  45. How can they just make a resolution and make him an American citizen?? HOw?? This is downright criminal! We need to clean house in Washington, I think its going to happen the people are sick of this crap.

  46. LOL Well, confloyd, I think LaRouche is a total nutbag as well, so I wouldn;t take his word.

  47. confloyd…

    Obama still wouldn’t qualify for the presidency. A US president has to be born on American soil, hence Natural Born Citizen. They can Naturalize him, Baptize him, Cauterize him and it won’t make a hill of beans difference,

  48. If you view Admin’s Lou Dobbs video the (Rs) are introducing a Resolution for anyone seeking the presidency to first prove they are a NBC…

  49. H4T, I used to like Larouche and figured out he was a nutjob when he said that he was the only one in America that could fix the economy, that when I knew. Hillary could fix it.
    This BC issue is getting alot of play now, is Lou Dobbs continuing broadcasting the issue or has he been told to STFU?? I never get to watch him because dad has to watch Wheel of Fortune. He’s 87, so I let him watch it.

  50. http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/07/helen_thomas_birther_1.asp#more

    Helen Thomas, Birther?
    At the White House press briefing today, left-wing Air America radio talk show host Bill Press asked Robert Gibbs, “Is there anything you can say that will make the birthers go away?”

    To which Gibbs replied, Oh, please, please don’t make me talk about an issue that makes conservatives look like a bunch of nutjobs.

    I paraphrase. You can read the full exchange after the jump.

    But I thought it was curious that Helen Thomas seemed to think that concerns that Obama is not really a U.S. citizen are legitimate (some of the following exchange was left out of the official White House transcript, but see the 30:50 mark of this video):

    GIBBS: … no, nothing will assuage them. But there are 10,000 more important issues for people in this country to discuss, rather than–

    HELEN THOMAS: A violation of the Constitution.

    GIBBS:–whether or not the President is a citizen. …

    THOMAS: Why do you think it keeps coming up?

    MR. GIBBS: Because for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want.

    Bill Press: Is there anything you can say that will make the birthers go away?

    MR. GIBBS: No. (Laughter.) I mean, the God’s honest truth is no. I mean, Bill, let’s understand this — and I almost hate to indulge in such an august setting as the White House — and I mean this in seriousness — the White House briefing room discussing the made-up, fictional nonsense of whether or not the President was born in this country. A year-and-a-half ago I asked that the birth certificate be put on the Internet because lord knows, you got a birth certificate and you put it on the Internet, what else could be the story?

    Here’s the deal , Bill. If I had some DNA, it wouldn’t assuage those that don’t believe he was born here. But I have news for them and for all of us: The President was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the earth. He’s a citizen.

    But I have no doubt that Lester will ask me soon, and that I will receive e-mail —

    Q You’re wrong — I’ve got another question. (Laughter.)

    MR. GIBBS: I’m not entirely sure about that, Lester. But let’s not —

    Q Let me prove it. Let me prove it. (Laughter.)

    MR. GIBBS: I’m happy to wager that you’ll never ask me another birth question again.

    Q No, no, no — I didn’t say “never again,” I said, “not today.”

    MR. GIBBS: See, there we go. I’ll take my winnings and put it in my son’s college fund. But no, nothing will assuage them. But there are 10,000 more important issues for people in this country to discuss, rather than whether or not the President is a citizen.

    Helen Thomas: Why do you think it keeps coming up?

    MR. GIBBS: Because for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want.

    Posted by John McCormack on July 27, 2009 05:28 PM

  51. marie- the vote was not passed, it was postponed.

    Now here is the bad news:

    Obama, Gates, Crowley Beer meet set:

    latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-gates28-2009jul28,0,5578765.story

    “It’s set for Thursday, ( at 6pm) an administration official confirmed Monday night. Both Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge, Mass., Police Department and Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. have agreed to come. That means Obama is on the hook to achieve some kind of agreement.

    Bilateral get-togethers between Obama and a host of foreign leaders in recent months have gotten less attention. The image of the president trying to use a beer-drinking session to mediate an ages-old, highly volatile dispute has given new definition to diplomatic mission.

  52. 6. Importing Chicago Machine Model: in Federalist Paper No. 47, James Madison pointed out the dangers of a unitary system such as we have in Chicago: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. . . the preservation of liberty requires that the three great departments of power should be separate and distinct.” (January 30, 1787).

    If you examine what Obama has done since taking office, it fully appears that he is moving away from the Constitutional Model and toward what Madison described as tyranny, i.e. a unitary model of the Chicago Machine. The supporting evidence is as follows:

    a. Big City Boss: he has installed thirty-three (33) Czars to oversee all aspect of the economy. Those czars are not accountable to congress, the cabinet or to the people. They are accountable only to him. Past presidents have had one or two czars, whereas he has an army of them. The ranking Senator in his own party has strenuously objected to his power grab. He is forcing people who want to run for open senate seats in New York and Pennsylvania to withdraw so he can protect incumbents. Normally, those decisions would be reserved to state party organizations and the registered democratic voters. He is seeking total control of the system just like a big city boss.

    b. Slush Fund: he has forced passage of a major stimulus bill for the ostensible purpose of job creation. In fact, very few jobs have been created. Instead, he is using the money to reward friends and to punish enemies. For example, $230,000 of stimulus money to repair the windows in the wealthy social club in Seattle to reward a supporter. Then he sent a letter to the governor of Arizona threatening to withhold stimulus monies from that state beneficial to average people because the senator from that state who happened to be Republican had questioned the allocation of such monies. This arbitrary dispensation of public moneys is the m.o. of a big city boss.

    c. Rubber Stamp: he has taken steps to weaken the legislative branch, by forcing them to act on major legislation without time for deliberation, asserting a right to make binding treaties without prior congressional approval despite the language of Article II, issuing signing statements which do not reflect the intent of the legislation. and dictating who will run for open senate positions, rather than leaving that decision to the state party organizations and voters. His chief of staff who was formally minority whip routinely threatens the careers of legislators when they show any degree of independence. This is part and parcel of the Chicago Machine model.

    d. Political Machine: he has set up a political machine within government by bringing his campaign manager into the White House as his top advisor. He has moved the Census function from Commerce to the White House, under the control of his campaign manager. He has pumped massive public funds into ACORN which has been charged with voter fraud in 17 states. He has put them in charge of the census function. He has recruited an army of bloggers put them in charge taking over the census function, massive funding of ACORN, and the use of an army of bloggers to support his reelection, and to guarantee passage of his legislation. This is how the Chicago Machine disenfranchises voters.

    e. Patronage & Protection: he has failed to prosecute the Mayor of Sacramento who is a personal friend and supporter, allowed him to keep a portion of the monies he embezzled and fired the Inspector General who blew the whistle. By the same token, the Chicago Machine makes sure there are no prosecutions for graft in the City of Chicago or in Cook County. There will be hundreds of examples of this as time goes on because this is the only system he knows. The antecedents are Rezko and Excelon. Also, as Lynn Sweet notes, the White House is beginning to look like the 51st Ward in Chicago in terms of patronage jobs. Finally, he intends to create the same kind of public-private development projects across the country as he helped create in Chicago which have done so much to enrich his cronies yet so little for the people who he is in public office to represent.

    f. The Business Cabal: the late Walter Cronkite was asked whether there is a ruling class in this country. He said yes, I am afraid there is, they are the heads of commerce and finance, and they so manipulate democracy that they control democracy. In Chicago, this cabal is referred to as The Goose Lake crowd. In Washington, the cabal consists of major manufacturers and players in the new economy players. In finance it includes of Wall Street firms like Goldman Sachs, hedge fund operators like Soros and foreign banking interests. They selected Obama because he is willing to promote their business interests over those of his constituents—as he did before with Rezko and Excelon. In other words, he was chosen by those elites precisely because he would NOT stand up for the American People. They contributed heavily to his candidacy. Through him they hope to manipulate democracy to achieve their own ends. For example, the stimulus plan benefitted Wall Street. The cap and trade bill and health care reform benefit GE. GE is doing business in Iran, seeks to build 41 nuclear plants at a cost of $4 trillion over the next twenty years and Obama can be bought. GE Chairman Jeff Iment is one of Obama eight (8) economic advisors. The New York Times is a key supporter as well in case they need a taxpayer bail-out.

    g. Thug Media: this same cabal owns and controls big media: i.e. GE (NBC, MSNBC, CNBC), Time-Warner (CNN), Disney (ABC), and Westinghouse (CBS). Jack Welch is clear on this in his book “Winning”. Not surprisingly, the only big media network owned by a news organization is FOX and they are the only one that is willing to report unfavorable as well as favorable news about Obama. The others are not doing the job as reporters. They are doing the jobs of their corporate masters. Editors have become copyboys.
    Big Media attached a positive band to Obama because he would do the bidding of their corporate owners rather than that of the American People. According to Chris Hedges the purpose of brand obma is to make us feel better about government while corporate overlords loot the treasury, our elected officials continue to have their palms greased by armies of corporate lobbyists, and divert us with their gossip and trivia. We like our president. We believe he is like us. But like all products spun from the world of corporate advertising, we are being duped into doing and supporting things that are not in our interest. Corporations which control our politics no longer produce different things. They produced different brands. The Bush brand of studied folksiness collapsed. So we have been given the new Obama brand which is exciting and faintly erotic. The goal is give their products edge and to make consumers confuse brand with experience.
    Big Media attached a negative brand to Hillary and later on Sarah because they would do the bidding of the American People rather than their corporate owners. On the eve of the primary season, CNN retained strategists developed a marketing strategy to brand Hillary Clinton as someone who is is “divisive”, “polarizing”, “dishonest”, “untrustworthy”, “calculating”. Then they proceeded to repeat those adjectives again and again in the same manner that “biological warfare” and “weapons of mass destruction” were pounded across the air waves in the lead-up to the Iraq War. Jake Tapper compared Hillary to “Tanya Harding” implying that she would break Obama’s knees to steal his crown. And another pundit compared her to the deranged villainess in “Fatal Attraction” who continued to pursue the hero. Terry McAuliffe observed no candidate in history has received so much disrespect from Big Media. The reason for their persistence is they are determined to destroy the competing brands.

  53. “It’s set for Thursday, ( at 6pm) an administration official confirmed Monday night. Both Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge, Mass., Police Department and Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. have agreed to come. That means Obama is on the hook to achieve some kind of agreement.

    Bilateral get-togethers between Obama and a host of foreign leaders in recent months have gotten less attention. The image of the president trying to use a beer-drinking session to mediate an ages-old, highly volatile dispute has given new definition to diplomatic mission.
    ——————-
    Fuck them. This is a cakewalk from his standpoint. I hope they are joking here.

  54. wbb-

    If you’ve read about Gates and his affiliates at pumasunleashed, you’ll see where this is going.

    In all honesty, I believe this is a premptive attack by law enforcement. Crowley isn’t going to fold, you can bet on it

  55. I tell you I hate the beer drinking invitation, because the stupid elites think that the middle class is about drinking beer, guns and we are all bubbas. There are some people that don’t drink and there are those that don’t drink beer. They all catagorize us in that beer drinkers. Personally, I love beer, it my choice of alcoholic beverage.

  56. I still hope that Crowley brings his union rep with him. Otherwise it is like walking into an active minefield.

  57. wbb-

    If you’ve read about Gates and his affiliates at pumasunleashed, you’ll see where this is going.

    In all honesty, I believe this is a premptive attack by law enforcement. Crowley isn’t going to fold, you can bet on it
    —————————————-
    Wow. God I hope you are right. Those black officers in the clip have got Crowleys back here. I sure hope he takes someone with him. Otherwise, the race baiting professor and the race baiting occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. will double team him, and report out a total lie of what happened and corroborate eachother. I wonder what communications have taken place betwee Bambi and the Gate swings one way. What a bully.

  58. Do they need to go that far to prove he is a citizen he could simply show the BC.
    ————————————————————————————–

    Marie i agree. This want go away until they show the BC

  59. Obama’s Plan Isn’t the Answer

    By Martin Feldstein
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009

    For the 85 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, the Obama health plan is bad news. It means higher taxes, less health care and no protection if they lose their current insurance because of unemployment or early retirement.

    President Obama’s primary goal is to extend formal health insurance to those low-income individuals who are currently uninsured despite the nearly $300-billion-a-year Medicaid program. Doing so the Obama way would cost more than $1 trillion over the next 10 years. There surely must be better and less costly ways to improve the health and health care of that low-income group.

    Although the president claims he can finance the enormous increase in costs by raising taxes only on high-income individuals, tax experts know that this won’t work. Experience shows that raising the top income-tax rate from 35 percent today to more than 45 percent — the effect of adding the proposed health surcharge to the increase resulting from letting the Bush tax cuts expire for high-income taxpayers — would change the behavior of high-income individuals in ways that would shrink their taxable incomes and therefore produce less revenue. The result would be larger deficits and higher taxes on the middle class. Because of the unprecedented deficits forecast for the next decade, this is definitely not a time to start a major new spending program.

    A second key goal of the Obama health plan is to slow the growth of health-care spending. The president’s budget calls explicitly for cutting Medicare to help pay for the expanded benefits for low-income individuals. But the administration’s goal is bigger than that. It is to cut dramatically the amount of health care that we all consume.

    A recent report by the White House Council of Economic Advisers claims that the government can cut the projected level of health spending by 15 percent over the next decade and by 30 percent over the next 20 years. Although the reduced spending would result from fewer services rather than lower payments to providers, we are told that this can be done without lowering the quality of care or diminishing our health. I don’t believe it.

    To support their claim that costs can be radically reduced without adverse effects, the health planners point to the fact that about half of all hospital costs are for patients in the last year of life. I don’t find that persuasive. Do doctors really know which of their very ill patients will benefit from expensive care and which will die regardless of the care they receive? In a world of uncertainty, many of us will want to hope that care will help.

    We are also often told that patients in Minnesota receive many fewer dollars of care per capita than patients in New York and California without adverse health effects. When I hear that, I wonder whether we should cut back on care, as these experts advocate, move to Minnesota, or wish we had the genetic stock of Minnesotans.

    The administration’s health planners believe that the new “cost effectiveness research” will allow officials to eliminate wasteful spending by defining the “appropriate” care that will be paid for by the government and by private insurance. Such a constrained, one-size-fits-all form of medicine may be necessary in some European health programs in which the government pays all the bills. But Americans have shown that we prefer to retain a diversity of options and the ability to choose among doctors, hospitals and standards of care.

    At a time when medical science offers the hope of major improvements in the treatment of a wide range of dread diseases, should Washington be limiting the available care and, in the process, discouraging medical researchers from developing new procedures and products? Although health care is much more expensive than it was 30 years ago, who today would settle for the health care of the 1970s?

    Obama has said that he would favor a British-style “single payer” system in which the government owns the hospitals and the doctors are salaried but that he recognizes that such a shift would be too disruptive to the health-care industry. The Obama plan to have a government insurance provider that can undercut the premiums charged by private insurers would undoubtedly speed the arrival of such a single-payer plan. It is hard to think of any other reason for the administration to want a government insurer when there is already a very competitive private insurance market that could be made more so by removing government restrictions on interstate competition.

    There is much that can be done to improve our health-care system, but the Obama plan is not the way to do it. One helpful change that could be made right away is fixing the COBRA system so that middle-income households that lose their insurance because of early retirement or a permanent layoff are not deterred by the cost of continuing their previous coverage.

    Now that congressional leaders have made it clear that Obama will not see health legislation until at least the end of the year, the president should look beyond health policy and turn his attention to the problems that are impeding our economic recovery.

    Martin Feldstein, a professor of economics at Harvard University and president emeritus of the nonprofit National Bureau of Economic Research, was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers from 1982 to 1984.

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072701905.html

  60. bambi wants a kodak moment with Gates and Crowley, a grinning like a fool picture of the three men making nice that will cap a doomed July for him. One that will go rabid throughout the media world.

  61. Crowley better not give in to this idiot. Falling into the glamour of going to the WH and meeting O. I hope they don’t slip him a mickey

  62. HFT 7/27 9:10 PM:What’s funny to me is that while they are having conniptions over this as if it is horrible and unprecedented to question these things, no one had such qualms over whether the question ought to even be asked when it was McCain’s status in question. There were three suits filed in court demanding he produce his.
    =========

    Right on, and McCain had no qualms about answering publicly, directly, and promptly.

    How do you view DC Examiner as an information source? Byron York has this opinion piece there today:
    Who knows more about what’s in that bill — Mr. Average Democrat, or Mr. Average Republican?
    Bet on the Republican. For weeks now, GOP lawmakers have been studying the Democratic health care bill, and for months before that, they studied preliminary Democratic plans. Many rank-and-file Democrats, on the other hand, have been so ill-informed about what their leadership has been doing that it was only last week, when the party offered a five-hour class on the bill’s contents, that some members began to grasp the details.

    That means the Republicans hold an advantage going into the health care ground war that will unfold during the August recess, when lawmakers go home to visit with voters. “We learned from the stimulus, and the other side didn’t,” says one savvy GOP aide. “They pushed through a bill as fast as possible so that no one knew what was in it. Very early on, there was a clear goal that Republican members of Congress would know what was in this [health care] bill and what its impact would be.”

    House Republicans had six private health care seminars in May, two in June and three so far in July, with the ones this month dealing specifically with the Democratic proposal on the table. GOP officials estimate about three-quarters of the Republican members have gone through the sessions.

    www dot washingtonexaminer.com/politics/GOP-teachable-moment-on-the-risks-of-Obamacare-8028107-51819127.html

  63. Going to the WH, having a Beer and a photo op, will not erase the incident. They are mounting up.

    On the BC, So why don’t they just fraud one up. If they had done that many years ago, when they knew they were going to run him, they could have shown the thing, and nothing might have been brought up about it.

    Could this be the one fatal flaw in all of this. When this was said my mouth dropped:
    _______________________________

    GIBBS: … no, nothing will assuage them. But there are 10,000 more important issues for people in this country to discuss, rather than–

    HELEN THOMAS: A violation of the Constitution.

    _______________________________________

    The same thing happened on the TV Interview with Beck was it.

    The indication was from Martin I think, He has been Elected and HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE US.

    AND BECK SAID YOU ACT LIKE HE IS ANOINTED and the inference was above the rules
    ________________________________________

    Of course the Congressmen introducing legislation that you have to prove you US Citizen, should logical, and sane, like we were just going to enforce the consitution.

    __________________________
    The media have created him, and protected him, and I am beginning to believe, they DON’T like the results.

    If they made you, they can break you. I HAVE TO STILL WONDER WHAT MIGHT BE IN THE COLLEGE RECORDS THEY ARE AFRAID OF, LIKE IF HE WAS A FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENT, DID HE HAVE TO SHOW A BIRTH RECORD? I ALSO DON’T UNDERSTAND UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, WHY WE CANNOT GET TO THOSE RECORDS.

    I know when I was going to College, and changed colleges, I had to prove residence in that state. The question is what does a foreign student have to show?????

  64. Lets also go back in History: The reason that was place in the Constitution is Hamilton was born outside the US, and the founding father’s did not want him to become President of the US. Let me also rattle on again about how they would have proven citizenship back in those days. We did not have vital records. I am sure it was proven, if questioned by Bible records, or LETTERS WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO WERE PRESENT AT YOUR BIRTH.

    So tell me, why do we talk so little about the letter written from the Grandmother, who said she was at his birth outside the country, and we literally call her a liar, when if the birth records was in doubt, it would be a document like that, that would be taken as proof.

  65. HoldThemAccountable.

    Thank You, that is amazing information about how Reps are educating themselves on the Health Reform Bill. It make the Dims look well Dim.

  66. YAHOO AND HAWAII JOIN TOGETHER IN TIMELY DEFENSE OF OBAMA

    Talk about coincidental timing…

    So state officials re-re-double-checked his birth certificate, and pronouned “All is well, nothing to look at here folks, let’s move along”. Well, did they provide it to a neutral party? To a judge in one of the many pending cases?

    Ummmm, didn’t think so.

    Here are three important quotes:

    1. “They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama’s birthplace.”
    *** Hmmm, why is there a surge? Could it be that Obama never dealt with this issue, except for sweeping it under the carpet?

    2. “State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.”
    *** The judges who have squashed the law suits have raised a completely false, impossible-to-meet standard. Him being POTUS means that every single citizen has a tangible interest.

    3. “However, Obama’s birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that’s done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.”
    *** “…were brought forward”???? What the hell does that mean? Shown to whom?

    yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

    Here’s the whole piece from Yahoo:

    Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real
    ==================================

    By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer Jaymes Song, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jul 28, 1:54 am ET
    HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

    They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama’s birthplace.

    “I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

    So-called “birthers” — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

    Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama’s beginnings. Hawaii’s Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

    “They just keep asking over and over and over again,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

    The Constitution states that a person must be a “natural-born citizen” to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama’s birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father’s homeland. They’ve challenged his citizenship in court.

    One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN’s Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

    However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama’s island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”

    State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    However, Obama’s birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that’s done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.

  67. HIS PEOPLE MUST BE STARTING TO GET ANGRY AT HIM; THEY HAVE TO SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS DEFENDING HIS INDEFENSIBLE POSITION.

    …just show your birth certificate, dude.

    Contains this interesting tidbit:

    “FactCheck.org also pointed out that Obama’s American mother and Kenyan father placed an advertisement in a local Honolulu newspaper on August 13, 1961, announcing their son’s birth.”
    $$$ As I recall, “Factcheck.org” is an obama-cover group. Can someone please confirm? And an ad in a newspaper is the thinnest of circumstantial evidence. If you smuggled someone into the country a few days or weeks after they were born, you might resort to putting an announcement in a local newspaper. To quote Church Lady, “Isn’t THAT convenient??”

    yahoo.com/s/nm/20090728/us_nm/us_obama_birth_4

    Obama IS a U.S. citizen, says exasperated White House
    =======================================

    By Ross Colvin Ross Colvin – 1 hr 40 mins ago
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A vocal group of conspiracy theorists known as “birthers” are riling the White House with their persistent claim that Barack Obama is not an American citizen and therefore ineligible to be president.

    The claim that the United States’ first African-American president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, first emerged during his presidential campaign, but it has garnered more media attention in the summer “silly season,” a traditionally slow news period when many Americans are on vacation.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs looked exasperated at his briefing on Monday when a reporter asked him, “Is there anything you can say that will make the birthers go away?”

    “If I had some DNA, it wouldn’t assuage those that don’t believe he was born here,” Gibbs replied. “But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the earth. He’s a citizen.

    “A year-and-a-half ago I asked that the birth certificate be put on the Internet because Lord knows, you got a birth certificate and you put it on the Internet, what else could be the story?”

    The digitally scanned copy of the “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s Department of Health shows Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961.

    The nonpartisan FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, examined, handled and photographed the original certificate in an effort to put the controversy to rest.

    “We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the USA, just as he has always said.”

    FactCheck.org also pointed out that Obama’s American mother and Kenyan father placed an advertisement in a local Honolulu newspaper on August 13, 1961, announcing their son’s birth.

    Gibbs, who has ridiculed “birthers” in the past, impatiently dismissed the claims as “made-up, fictional nonsense.” “There are 10,000 more important issues for people in this country to discuss, rather than whether or not the president is a citizen.”

    Despite the seemingly incontrovertible evidence, the issue shows no sign of disappearing off the radar of right-wing radio talkshow hosts and others who say the birth certificate is a forgery to hide the fact that Obama is foreign-born.

    Republican Congressman Mike Castle was booed at a town hall meeting after he insisted Obama, a Democrat, was an American citizen. Video of the meeting went viral and has been viewed nearly 700,000 times on YouTube.

    Fellow Republican Congressman John Campbell is a co-sponsor of legislation that would in the future force presidential candidates to produce their birth certificates.

    Meanwhile, several lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to serve as president have been dismissed; and a U.S. army major made headlines by arguing he should not be deployed to Afghanistan on the grounds that the commander-in-chief of the U.S. armed forces was not an American citizen.

  68. ‘Terror cell planned attacks in Israel’

    A father, his two sons and four other men living in North Carolina are accused of military-style training at home and plotting “violent jihad” abroad, including against targets in Israel, federal authorities said Monday.

    Officials said the men were led by Daniel Patrick Boyd, 39, who resided in a small lakeside home in a rural area south of Raleigh, where he and his family walked their dog and operated a drywall business. Court records, however, indicate Boyd was a veteran of terrorist training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan who fought against the Soviet Union.

    “These charges hammer home the point that terrorists and their supporters are not confined to the remote regions of some far away land but can grow and fester right here at home,” US Attorney George E.B. Holding said. The seven men made their first court appearances in Raleigh on Monday, charged with providing material support to terrorism. If convicted, they could face life in prison.

    The indictment said Boyd, a US citizen, trained in Afghanistan and fought there between 1989 and 1992 before returning to the United States. Court documents charged that Boyd, also known as “Saifullah,” encouraged others to engage in jihad.
    Boyd’s beliefs were so extreme that he stopped attending worship services in the Raleigh area this year and instead began holding meetings for Friday prayers in his home.

    “This is not an indictment of the entire Muslim community,” Holding said. “These people had broken away because their local mosque did not follow their vision of being a good Muslim.”

    In 1991, Boyd and his brother were convicted of bank robbery in Pakistan and were accused of carrying identification showing they belonged to the radical Afghan guerrilla group, Hezb-e-Islami, or Party of Islam. They were each sentenced to have a foot and a hand cut off for the robbery, but the sentenced was later overturned.

    The wives of the men told The Associated Press in an interview at the time they were glad the truth about their husbands had finally become known. The wives said the couples had US roots but the United States was a country of “kafirs” – Arabic for heathens.

    Jim Stephenson, a neighbor of Patrick Boyd in Willow Spring, said he saw the Boyd family walking their dog in the neighborhood. He said the indictment shocked the residents. “We never saw anything to give any clues that something like that could be going on in their family,” Stephenson said.

    Two of the suspects are Boyd’s sons: Zakariya Boyd, 20 and Dylan Boyd, 22. The others are Anes Subasic, 33; Mohammad Omar Aly Hassan, 22; and Ziyad Yaghi, 21.
    Hysen Sherifi, 24, a native of Kosovo and a US legal permanent resident was also charged in the case. He was the only person arrested who was not a US citizen.
    All were residents of North Carolina. No attorneys for the men were listed in court records.

    Reached at her home in Silver Spring, Maryland, Boyd’s mother said she had not heard of their arrests and knew nothing about the current case. “It certainly sounds weird to me,” Pat Saddler said. “That’s news to me.”

    Hassan’s father declined to comment Monday night while others did not have listed numbers or did not return calls.

    It’s unclear how authorities learned of the activities, although court documents indicate that prosecutors will introduce evidence gathered under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The indictment claims Boyd traveled to Israel in 2007 with several of the defendants, hoping to engage in “violent jihad.” The attempt was unsuccessful, though, and the men returned home, officials said. Boyd was also accused of trying to raise money last year to fund others’ travel overseas to fight. One of the men, Hysen Sharifi, allegedly went to Kosovo to engage in violent jihad, according to the indictment, but it’s unclear if he did any actual fighting.

    Several of the defendants, including Boyd, were also charged with practicing military tactics on a private property in Caswell County in June and July of this year.

    jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1248277907214&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  69. Obama’s anti Israeli position has made groups like the above as well as Arab/Muslim nations emboldened to attack Israel imo. When you have an anti-Israel Prez, many will take that as a sign to attack. If you look at the news reports , particularly in Britain, the unmitigated anti-semetism is astonishing.

  70. July 27, 2009

    Bill Clinton Lauds CIA

    by Prerana Swami

    Former President Bill Clinton visited Central Intelligence Agency headquarters today to express his gratitude to employees and thank them for their role in protecting the United States against foreign threats.

    “I think it’s critical to meeting the challenges that we face today and the ones we’re likely to face tomorrow. I guess that’s the most important thing I can say—that I am grateful to all of you for your service here,” Mr. Clinton said.

    Mr. Clinton was also briefed on counterterrorism and regional hotspots by senior analysts at CIA headquarters. He said staffers are “trying to stop the big bad things from happening, trying to limit the damage from the bad things that do happen, and trying to keep moving the world in the direction it should go.”

    CIA director Leon Panetta complimented Mr. Clinton for his understanding of the CIA’s role in intelligence gathering in the post-Cold War era.

    “We certainly can benefit from the experience and perspective of a man who for eight years worked to defuse those dangers, protect our nation, and share the best of its ideals with the rest of the world,” Panetta said.

    Mr. Clinton also spoke about his experiences around the world after leaving office.

    cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5192255.shtml

  71. “I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
    ******************************

    I thought they went digital and all originals were not to be had?

  72. The local gov, etc mean nothing validating this document for a number of reason:

    1. They have a vested interest, they don’t want to lose the first President who claims to be from there

    2. They are stating again, you get tired of me saying this, that the live birth document is the all supreme record, and they are completely ignoring the Grandmother’s letter, which would be used to validate a birth in a complicated situation. None of the official Swearing, and yes, I want them to swear in front of a judge, on a bible that they have first hand knowledge of this birth.

    3. With the conflicting information before us, and all of the people dead that could confirm, I think you have to declare in a court of law that you can not substantiate he was born in HI. Unless you can come up with an eye witness from someone who was there when he was born.

    If he cannot substatiate, then he cannot run for President of the United States.

    CASE CLOSED.

  73. My understanding, from watching Lou Dobbs speak on the birth certificate issue is that it is simply a matter of producing a legal document that actually includes information, i.e. the name of the doctor who delivered obama as well as other pertinent data that does not appear on the phony piece of paper they have shown everyone.

  74. IF THEY DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF HIS BIRTH, THAN IT IS HERE SAY. Then having two conconflicting witnesses (his Mother and his Grandmother), you have to throw it out. If I were a Judge, I might request the unsealing of those college records, as they might have pertinent information to the case.

    What do you think all you lawyers on this blog. Works for me.

  75. JanH

    I don’t think that exists. You are right, I would think a HI Doctor’s name, mid wifes name, hosptial might help their case. From what I have heard, there have been two conflicting hospitals mentioned, and not Doctor’s name mentioned. That, like the college records might help this issue.

    I know who I was delivered by, and the name of the Hospital.

  76. Found @ BP
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    Barack’s ”Teachable Moment’

    americanthinker.com/2009/07/baracks_teachable_moment.html

    The night before the President of the United States addressed the questionable behavior of American law enforcement, physicians at Jersey City Medical Center harvested Detective Marc Anthony DiNardo’s organs for donation in preparation to take him off of life support. Two days later, a hearse carrying DiNardo’s body slowly made its way down a Jersey City street past a blue sea of stoic police officers lining the winding route. While inconsolable family members bid DiNardo farewell in New Jersey, at a Washington DC press conference Barack Obama reminded Americans of law enforcement’s history of racial injustice by impugning the procedural decision of Cambridge, Massachusetts police Sergeant James Crowley “acting stupidly.”

    More @ link

  77. This BC question is surfacing again, I venture to say, because Obama has been warned by the ‘Powers that Be’, he is skating on thin ice because he is taking too long getting their agenda in place.

    The threatened Trump Card they continue holding over his head as a reminder to him, he can be gone in an instant if the Truth is made public. One of them is going to crack first; I’ll bet Obama will crack first.

  78. This is why obamafraud want’s a vote prior to coming home on break!. I found this @ Bitterpol too.
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    Monday, July 27, 2009
    Sen. McCaskill’s Office Holds Town Hall– TEA PARTY BREAKS OUT

    Senator Claire “ACORN” McCaskill’s office agreed to hold a town hall meeting on Obamacare. A massive Tea Party Protest broke out!

    gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/sen-mccaskills-office-holds-town-hall.html

  79. wbboei Says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Wow. God I hope you are right. Those black officers in the clip have got Crowleys back here. I sure hope he takes someone with him. Otherwise, the race baiting professor and the race baiting occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. will double team him, and report out a total lie of what happened and corroborate each other. I wonder what communications have taken place betwee Bambi and the Gate swings one way. What a bully.

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    Here is an alternative view of what is happening here. All is not as simple or cut and dry in black and white if you take these facts into consideration. Are these coincidences or just timely events?

    Gates arrives home, finds front door jammed. (how, by who, when and why, did the door become jammed?) Obviously while he was away someone deliberately jammed the door.

    Gates reportedly by his own admission is gearing up for filming a documentary on “racial profiling” something that may trigger unrest locally within the Cambridge community and should this film go viral, may have a detrimental effect on race relations nationwide.

    A trigger at Obama’s fingertips, a powder keg of emotions set to go out of control should race relations suddenly become strained.

    Obama seems to be aware of Gates current activities, perhaps his old roomate, MA Gov. Deval Patric is Obama’s conduit to incendiary activities that whet Obama’s now public race baiting nature.

    We are aware, Obama’s Health Care Plan is modeled on the new MA HCProgram Patric implemented after taking office. (sidenote: The CBO did an actuary of Patric’s HCP and found it to be unfeasible because of adding illegals to his HC plan as Obama did and deemed it a failure)

    Back to the night Gates arrives home. Neighbors become aware of suspicious activity happening at the Gates residence. Ms. Whalen dials 911 as a concerned citizen joined in the community Neighborhood Watch.

    Cambridge Police answer the call, not with a random police officer on the beat in Gates neighborhood, but with their very best officer specializing in “racial profiling” teaching classes to new officers for the last 5 years. Cambridge police send in The Babe Ruth of racial profiling, Sgt. Crowley, along with several other police officers including an AA officer are sent to assist Crowley to the Gates residence as an eye witness to Gates erratic behavior. (Crowley’s words to the station, seeing Gates is combative, yelling at the him and the officers at the scene: “keep the cars comin.”)

    Gates is arrested not because of racial profiling but because of his disrespectful out of control behavior towards police officers risking their lives daily on the streets of a racially diverse metropolitan area. Gates is cuffed and stuffed, processed, fingerprinted and mugged shot at the Cambridge police station.

    Obama steps out of character at his prime time press conference on Health Care and takes an O/T question from a familiar Chicago reporter, Lynn Sweet… asking about him about the Gates arrest… Obama sure of himself, makes the now regretted statement, “the Cambridge Police acted stupidly” Obama thinking he has lit a match to a racially charged situation perhaps a catalyst for a future project his hero, a Rev Wright like hero, Gates, has in mind at a future date.

    So, are these coincidences (?) Pretty obvious, Lynn Sweet’s question was a plant by Obama, many noting how animated he became when answering her question… Obama was almost gleeful at the chance to call out the police as “STUPID” and guilty of racial profiling.

    Afterwards, Obama taking advantage of the opportunity playing himself as the victim referring to his own experience as a Black Man hailing a cab in Manhattan. (Remember Emanuel’s statement, making the most of a crisis situation.)

    It seems to me, the Cambridge Police were a step ahead of the Gates/Obama premeditated drama, astutely aware through their own INTEL sources, they were to be the patsy’s for Obama’s long held hate of whites and simmering racial bias as stars in part of a planned Gates documentary on Racial Profiling at a future date?

    It is a possibility, now that the facts and events have been laid out, the Cambridge Police did in fact make a preemptive strike on Gates because they knew in advance what Gates was planning and how it would affect their credibility and that of law enforcement policies on racial profiling throughout the country.

    I can only say, thank you to Sgt Crowley for your adept handling of a potentially volatile situation that could have set race relations back 50 yrs.

  80. I suspect that outside of a few kiss asses, Panetta is a non person at the CIA, after at first defending the agency, and then turning around later and trashing it by making a big deal about a covert program that was never implemented. The people who count cannot trust him.

  81. It the door was jammed when I got home from a trip, I don’t think I would try to open it. I would be terrified that someone was still inside, possibly a burglary going on, and would call the police myself to come and check it out. Upon their arrival, I would show them my identification, answer their questions politely just as they would do mine, and not try to make an international incident of it. I wonder if he called his pal obama to get him out of this mess.

  82. I always liked Panetta. I just think he is too ethical and unprepared for the new level of cutthroat politics bambi and his clan have introduced to government.

  83. For the record – Obama’s birth was contemporaneously announced in the Honolulu Advertiser which was the paper of record. The announcement itself came from the Department of Vital Records and we know this BECAUSE OF THE SECTION OF THE NEWSPAPER IT WAS IN. If it was a paid announcement, it would have been in a different section. So, the birth certificate was issued by the hospital. We know this because of the time frame. Had Barack’s family applied for the birth certificate, they would have needed to present notarized statements from the obstetrician, pediatrician or mid-wife who oversaw the birth and examined the newborn. The announcement of the birth would not have been able to make it into the paper from the department of vital records because the DVR processed those more slowly. Also, if he wasn’t born in Hawaii, getting a notarized statements from physicians and midwives would have required finding people willing to jeopardize their professional license on behalf of the Dunham family. IT seems unlikely.

    Also, Obama did present Fact Check with a copy of his birth certificate. No one took that seriously because he has a long standing relationship with the Annenberg Foundation that funds Fact Check.

    All of that being said, the problem is that Obama did not attempt to deal with this when the issue first arose. As James Carville observed, any political lie not answered within 24 hours becomes a political truth. That’s what happened here. Barack’s arrogance prevented him from tackling the issue aggressively and the story has spun out of control. This isn’t about where he was born because there is no real doubt where he was born. This is about his ego and judgement.

  84. Also, Obama did present Fact Check with a copy of his birth certificate. No one took that seriously because he has a long standing relationship with the Annenberg Foundation that funds Fact Check.

    All of that being said, the problem is that Obama did not attempt to deal with this when the issue first arose. As James Carville observed, any political lie not answered within 24 hours becomes a political truth. That’s what happened here. Barack’s arrogance prevented him from tackling the issue aggressively and the story has spun out of control. This isn’t about where he was born because there is no real doubt where he was born. This is about his ego and judgement.
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    Why present a document to an organization than to the public or Gov agency? Unless?

  85. basement angel

    IF ALL OF THIS IS SO TRUE, WHAT IS THE HESITATION ABOUT PRESENTING THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, INSTEAD OF THE RECORD OF LIVE BIRTH, WHY HAVE THE NAMES NOT BEEN RELEASED, EVEN SOME OF THESE PEOPLE MIGHT BE ALIVE, IF SO, WHY THEIR HESITATION NOW TO COME FORWARD.

    I fail to agree with you even that because of the importance of being born in American that this was not done by people, maybe even for a fee. It also again dismisses the letter from the Grandmother, indicating that vital records are more truthful than letters written by relatives. I research these records, and that is just not true.

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    Also, if he wasn’t born in Hawaii, getting a notarized statements from physicians and midwives would have required finding people willing to jeopardize their professional license on behalf of the Dunham family.———————————-

    Michael Jackson’s personnel physician did not seem to mind doing that. It all comes down to money. In addition, people wanted to be American, and I think people in HI are like anyWHERE else, they would have done it for a price. What harm in it. They did not expect that to become an issue.

    _______________________

    I SAY LET SOMEONE COME FORWARD WHO HAS FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THIS MAN’S BIRTH. HE IS YOUNG, IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD TO FIND.

    In addition, when something has blown up like this, O has back peddled, and change his words, or direction. SO WHERE ARE THE WITNESS NAMES DOCUMENTS.

    ALSO, DISPROVE THE GRANDMOTHER’S LETTER. She should be respected enough to do this. Otherwise, basement angel, you are calling her a liar without any proof.

  86. God, Basement Angel, you really expect us to believe that crxp that just because a newspaper printed something, and it was suppose to be based on a vital record that no one wants to produce, that we salute and take it for fact.

    Newspaper are no better than the people preparing the news print, and vital records are bad all the time (I have first hand knowledge of that). Sorry, but since I don’t see you blog here often, I have to challenge it.

    Basement Angel, so have you see these documents, and interview any live witnesses??? Where have you gotten your information. Sorry, Fact Check will just not do it, but then the Gov or vital records office will not either. Again, when you have conflicting sources of information, then you cannot determine the fact unless you have an eye witness to the birth. If you cannot find this, then sorry, he cannot comply with natural born, because he cannot prove it.

  87. Another thing, why won’t Obama release his school records when he went to school in Indonesia or his college transcripts from Occidental College and Columbia?

    Obama’s own step-grandmother witnessed his birth in Kenya.

    We’ve done the research. Obama can’t even pretend to be an American citizen anymore never mind one who is a NBC.

  88. gonzotx,

    There is no government agency that asks for someone’s birth certificate when running for president. This hasn’t been an issue for a long, long time. McCain dealt with his birth certificate issue by walking out to the press and handing them embossed copies that they could see and feel. Obama didn’t do that. He waited until the story was huge and then handed a copy off to an entity with which he had professional ties.

    As to why he hasn’t dealt with it in a forthright fashion – he’s an asshole. That’s why. He was born in the US. He doesn’t need to prove it, so you can go fuck yourself as far as he is concerned. Seriously. He’s that big of a dick.

    New Mexico Fan – the birth announcement is contemporaneous meaning that it was published at the time of his birth. And yes, official records that come from a hospital where someone was born, that are delivered to the Department of Vital Records, who then process the certificate and post it for publication by the local paper of record 8 days after the birth itself carry much, much, much more weight than a letter from a non-citizen claiming that they witnessed the birth.

    Michael Jackson was already famous and Obama was a five day old infant from a middle class family. Why would anyone jeopardize their professional license on behalf of the Dunham family? In order for the birth certificate to be processed in the time frame that it was processed in, the Dunham’s would have had to get notarized statements within 3 days of the birth, and even then, according to the DVR in Hawaii, they would not have been able to process them that quickly. The fact remains that the announcement was published 8 days after his birth and the announcement came out on a Sunday, which knocks two days off of the time frame.

    If you’re genuinely under the impression that Obama was not born in the US, then file a FOIA request with the State Department for information about his application for a passport when he was a child. There any number of FOIA requests that can filed and they don’t cost anything. I am quite confident that you will learn why the newspapers, who have filed the FOIA requests, haven’t written about this.

    And yes, I think the grandmother is lying.

  89. Senate panel approves Sotomayor

    A key Senate panel has voted in favour of Sonia Sotomayor’s nomination to the US Supreme Court.

    The majority-Democrat Senate Judiciary Committee voted 13-6 to back Ms Sotomayor.

    Her nomination will now go to the full Senate, where she is expected to be confirmed as the court’s first Hispanic justice next week.

    Her nomination has been vocally opposed by a chorus of Republicans who believe she is too liberal.

    But correspondents say Ms Sotomayor is unlikely to alter the ideological balance on the court as she would replace retiring Justice David Souter, a liberal.

    The Supreme Court is the final arbiter of the US Constitution, and its nine members are given lifetime appointments, though they can voluntarily resign or retire.

    It is called upon to rule on issues that spark some of the greatest controversy in US society – such as abortion, gun rights and national security issues.

    Past probed

    One Republican, Lindsey Graham, joined all 12 Democrats on the Committee in approving Ms Sotomayor’s nomination, which came after she and witnesses spent days testifying in front of the panel.

    Ms Sotomayor, 55, responded cautiously to questions on these “hot-button issues” when questioned by the Committee – prompting some members to complain that they were unable to gauge fully her stance on them.

    The powerful National Rifle Association has come out against Ms Sotomayor over her record on gun rights, though some commentators suggest she has made few definitive statements on the issue.

    But her supporters say she has a reliable record – and they cite her “inspiring” rise from a New York public housing project to respected judicial scholar and justice.

    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8173036.stm

  90. I think the public has long since lost interest in the birth certificate issue except to say why did he post a fraudulent one on his website, and why was he reluctant to produce a real one. The issue goes more to his character than to the consitution. Thus, if his workshippers think there is some tactical advantage in this they are sadly mistaken. The question for him now should be since you maintain that you are a United States citizen even though you raised questions about McCains status during the campaign, then will you not sir, as a concession to the shortness of life, urge your party to support the legislation proffered by the Congressman from Texas, and if not then why not sir?

  91. New Mexico Fan – I’m the producer of the PUMA documentary and I’m certain the administrator here will tell you that I’ve been posting here for a long time. I don’t post often but I do read the page daily.

    You have layers and layers of bureaucracy from the early sixties that all have the same records, as would be expected, if the birth certificate was issued in the expected fashion. In point of fact, there is no reason that I know of to think that it’s not legitimate. If he was born in Kenya, how would the newspaper have had the announcement from the Department of Vital Records? They didn’t put paid advertisements in that section. That was public information of record. Like copies of licenses, etc.

    How do I know all this? I’m the person who called the Hawaii State Library and did the initial search to see if there was a birth or marriage announcement on record. The library sent me the copy of the announcement from their archives. After that, i called the Department of Vital Records, and spoke with someone who worked there in the sixties to learn what their procedure was for processing birth records at the time. They got the records from the hospitals, processed them (births and deaths), drew up a list and then posted the list for the local papers of record to publish. Finally, I spoke with the Honolulu Advertiser to learn what their routine was. There story matched up with what the DVR told me. On Fridays, the newspapers would pick up the records, assemble them for publication on Sunday. This was the list of the official record. Paid announcements went into a different section of the paper as they did everywhere. Lastly, I did not tell them that I was researching Obama. I told them that I was adoptee with conflicting birth information trying to sort out what happened. At the point where I was calling them, it was still a fairly minor story with only Texas Darlin’ and a couple others following it online.

    Obama was born in Hawaii. The reason he isn’t dealing with this is that he is an asshole of the first order. He’s arrogant, narcissistic and mean. He has plenty to hide and there may, indeed, be something on that record that he doesn’t want you to see.

  92. The Fraud is @ the AARP taking questions and lying

    He is with the bought and paid for flunky’s including Andrea “botox” Mitchell who introduced him to a “willing” crowd…her words

  93. going to “reward” Dr’s who do ‘quality’ work- now how will they know who does “quality” work- Gov intrusion into your records

  94. Just a reminder, that James Roosevelt of Tuft’s Health opposes the public option and he chaired the RBC meeting that gave Obama Clinton’s delegates. It’s payback time.

  95. basement angel Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
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    If one believes this guy has been set up from birth, it would have been easy to plant it. Just my take. Too easy to get rid of this nagging story, it seems more than an asshole moment.

  96. Basement Angel

    You are wrong about the use of personnel letters being used to produce vital Records and to correct them. I have as much vital record knowledge, if not more than you do about their use not only in history but today.

    1 They were used for the Civil War Pension validation (I have seen these Civil War Pension records and the Letters, most all of them had them).

    2. They were used to Substantiate late birth when people were trying to validate their date of birth for SS (go to any vital records office and you will see where people were doing this like crazy at one point).

    3. I have first hand knowledge of their being used for a relative, who’s vital record birth listed only that they were baby so and so. When this person went to get a passport, that was not good enough, and a relative had to write a letter stating that they had first hand knowledge (older sibling) of this person’s birth. This happen in the late 60s. In addition, I visit a number of vital record sites thought out the country, and there are always instructions on how to CORRECT a vital record.

    4. You can author a web site and you can talk to as many vital records offices as you want to, but that does not make it true. You can also say that the Grandmother is lying, but you have no more proof of that, then you have that the vital record is correct.

    There is a myth, about vital records, tombstone, newspapers, being any more accurate or LEGAL than anything else. Just as there is error and fraud in everything, you find it in these records. In addition, there can be procedures, but not all people follow them. I have first hand knowledge of that also.

    In addition, if you have all of this information, then WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE HOSPITAL, DOCTOR OR MIDWIFE PRESENT AT THIS BIRTH. Surely this great bureauratic system that you are sure is so correct should have those recorded. If not, maybe you should phone those people again.

  97. My Birth Certificate story (Yup, got one of those, too).

    When I moved from NJ to NYS I had to get a NYS Driver’s License. I presented my BC, as required, only to be told it wasn’t valid and would not be accepted unless I went back to the original hospital and got an original copy with a raised seal.

    DMV REFUSED to issue me a NYS license until that had been complied with. I couldn’t believe it. I had to jump through hoops, tracking down that oh-so-long-ago facility which could issue an original but I MANAGED to get it done so WTF can’t/won’t BO?????????!!!!!! It’s simply not credible. When regular citizens are held to that standard it the bar should be as high or more for (s)elected officials.

  98. BORN IN THE USA?
    Just who delivered baby Barack Obama?
    Physician who attended birth remains shrouded in mystery

    wnd.com/?pageId=103796

  99. Cambridge Officer, Gates Set to Meet at White House

    By Nicholas Johnston and Roger Runningen

    July 28 (Bloomberg) — President Barack Obama is bringing Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge, Massachusetts, police Sergeant James Crowley to the White House July 30 for an informal talk around a picnic table.

    The three men are set to gather about 6 p.m. at the executive mansion for the discussion on the south lawn, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said this morning.

    “This isn’t going to have a formal agenda” Gibbs said, adding that it’s a chance for the president “to take the temperature down a bit.”

    The idea came from a telephone call last week between Obama and the officer, whose arrest of Gates on July 16 after a confrontation on the scholar’s front porch drew Obama into a national controversy.

    “There was a discussion about he and I and Professor Gates having a beer here in the White House,” Obama said July 24 of a conversation he had with Crowley. Gates and Crowley both endorsed the idea.

    Gibbs said beer will be offered, though he didn’t specify what kind.

    Obama, who described himself as a friend of Gates, stirred a controversy July 22 when, in answering a question at a news conference, he said Cambridge police “acted stupidly” in arresting Gates on a disorderly conduct charge. The charge was later dropped. Cambridge police unions called on the president to apologize.

    Call to Crowley

    The president called Crowley and Gates two days later and sought to quell the furor by saying he should have “calibrated” his words more carefully and didn’t intend to malign Crowley or Cambridge police. He said he thought the incident should become a “teachable moment” on race relations in the country. Gates is black and Crowley is white.

    Asked if race relations will be on the list of topics, Gibbs said “one never gets away from it.”

    Crowley plans to bring his family, Gibbs said.

    Police were called to Gates’s home after a passerby mistook his effort to open his jammed front door for a break-in. At the time, Gates, 58, director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research at Harvard, was returning home after a trip to China.

    Cambridge police yesterday released a recording of the initial call to police, in which a woman reports “two gentlemen trying to get into a house.”

    During their encounter, Crowley told a dispatcher Gates is being “uncooperative” and to “keep the cars coming,” according to a recording of the radio transmissions released by the department. Toward the end of the 4-minute, 37-second recording, Crowley asks if “the wagon” has been dispatched, a reference to a vehicle police use to transport arrestees.

    A committee will review police performance in Gates’s arrest and make a report, Cambridge City Manager Robert Healy said at a news conference yesterday.

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aVq7u.laYdKg

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    Well if he’s bringing his family, I wonder how much serious conversation will go on.

  100. My current birth certificate does not have the hospital, doctor, etc on it. My original did, but that one was unfortunately lost about 10 years ago.

    The replacement that my state of birth sent me no longer has that info on it, because that use a new format now. But it is STILL a legal birth certificate, and I have used it for everything from getting a passport to a drivers license. The fact that this info is not on his current certificate does not mean a damn thing. It isn’t on mine, either.

    He’s a dick, and simply didn’t want too much attention paid to his name and the “muslim” connection back in the beginning. And now he’s too proud to back down. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.

  101. Yesterday I posted an op-ed column from the New York Times regarding Obama talking to everyone but Israel. This is the White House response to it, and a poor one at that:

    The White House Reacts to Aluf Benn’s Arguments
    28 Jul 2009 12:04 pm

    Shortly after I posted a link to Aluf Benn’s New York Times op-ed on President Obama, I spoke to two senior administration officials who seemed to feel fairly strongly that Benn doesn’t understand what the President is trying to do. In his piece, Benn argued that Obama has spoken to most everyone in the world except to the Israelis — the Cairo speech to the Muslim world being the most obvious example of Obama’s desire to re-set relationships — and that until he allays Israeli fears, and explains his vision for the Middle East and for Israel’s security, Israelis will mistrust him, to generally deleterious effect.

    These two senior officials — sorry, those were the ground rules — made the plausible argument that the Cairo speech was, in fact, directed at Israelis as much as it was directed at Arabs. “The President went before a Cairo audience in a speech co-sponsored by Al-Azhar with Muslim Brotherhood members in the audience and spoke of America’s strong, unshakable support for Israel,” one of the officials said. “He could have gone to a million different venues to say this, but he went to Cairo, and it wasn’t exactly an applause line. Isn’t it more important to say this to the Muslim world than it is to say it to an audience of Israelis or American Jews?”

    These two officials pointed out something that I forgot about the speech, which is that it contained strong condemnations of the cynical Arab ploy to use the Palestinian issue as a diversion (in other words, to keep the focus of unhappy Arabs on Israel and not on the weaknesses of their own anti-democratic, corrupt governments), and of course it contained an unequivocal denunciation of terrorism committed in the name of resistance.

    For what it was worth, I mentioned my worry that in all of the noise about settlements, the pro-Israel message of the Obama Administration wasn’t being heard — not only the left-sounding message that a Palestinian state is in the best security, demographic and moral interests of the Jewish state, but the message that Obama believes in the core ideas of Zionism (as he expressed them to me during the campaign) and that, because he’s a believer, he sincerely wants to protect Israel from true existential threats.

    I asked these two officials when Obama might visit Israel, or at least speak at length about his positive vision for a secure Israel, but they were non-committal, but I’m obviously hoping that this happens soon. Otherwise, the forces that seek to exploit the growing unease in some Jewish quarters with Obama in order to advance their own pro-settlement — or pro-recalcitrance — agendas will only be strengthened. The Obama Administration doesn’t help its own cause when it condemns the so-called “natural growth” of settlement blocs that everyone from Abu Mazen to Hosni Mubarak knows will wind up as part of Israel in a final deal, but you’re not going to get too many complaints from me, and, my guess is, from the majority of American Jews, when the Obama Administration questions the motivations of those who seek aggressive settlement expansion right now, at a time when the Palestinian leadership of the West Bank is actually fighting terrorism, and building a functioning economy.

    To be continued, I’m sure.

    jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/07/the_white_house_reacts_to_aluf.php

  102. New Mexico Fan, what you cannot get around is that the announcement was published 8 days after his birth. 8 days. The publication of his birth on August 13th is a fact of history. And the record of his birth came from the Department of Vital Records at a point in time when Vital Records had become accurate. This isn’t the mid-nineteenth century. This is the mid-twentieth century that we’re talking about. And newspapers did not list the name of the hospital or the doctor – that was irrelevant to the public record. None of the birth announcements that were published by the Hawaii newspapers had that information. Again, we’re talking a publication that went out within 8 days of his birth. Not what happened, 47 years later.

    Why don’t you do a FOIA request on his passport when he was 8 and find out what they say? It’s free. Anyone can do it. and it will almost certainly answer your questions. And if you really think he wasn’t born in Hawaii, then why not hire a respectable investigative firm and have them track down women who were in the hospital the same day Obama’s mother was, or who worked in the hospital and see what they say? The birthers spend lots of time hammering away in court, but they don’t do the kind of shoe leather investigation that turns up definitive results.

    No middle class American girl of any race would go to Kenya to give birth, with the astronomical maternal death rate it had in the sixties, if they didn’t have to. Something like over 30% women died in childbirth over there. They had no emergency facilities. Deaths from staph infections were the order of the day even from babies born at home.

    The history is this – he was born on August 5th. The announcement was published in two papers within 8 days. The announcement was with the lists that came from the Department of Vital Records meaning that within 5 days of his birth, the DVR had the birth certificate. The newspapers had the record of his birth within five days.

    You guys got nothin’ except Obama’s sheer level of assholery on the subject. That’s it.

  103. I understand it would be hard for anyone to turn down a chance to have a beer with a Prez in the WhiteHouse, but I wish the officer had declined.
    As for Israel JanH, they saw right through this Jew hating president from the start. What they did not expect was that Emanule and Axelrod would spilt the Jewish community in 1/2 and only listen to “Obama’s Jews”.
    Lastly, the birth certificate is a non issue for me.,..a waste of time and makes us look bad.

  104. jbstonesfan,

    I agree totally.

    As far as the birth certificate issue is concerned…lol…with respect to everyone here, I’m just going to give it a rest. If it is just an asshole moment, it is one of many this guy has had. My only confusion is why the step-grandmother said what she did but other than that, I’m going to leave it alone.

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    Clinton in ChargeHillary Clinton sets her own agenda.
    By Anne ApplebaumPosted Monday, July 27, 2009, at 8:00 PM ET

    Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Click image to expand.Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden”It’s time for Barack Obama to let Hillary Clinton take off her burqa.” It’s a line that brilliantly managed to belittle our female secretary of state under the guise of supporting her, to offend her and “defend” her at the same time: No wonder the insult that Tina Brown lobbed at the White House two weeks ago continues to echo around Washington. Since Brown wrote her article (snidely titled “Obama’s Other Wife”), even Clinton has been forced to respond.

    “I don’t pay a lot of attention to what is said,” she told an interviewer before setting off on a trip to Asia, during which she seemed deliberately to court media attention and to care a lot about what was said. “I broke my elbow, not my larynx,” she pointed out. And then, defensively, “I have been deeply involved in the shaping and implementation of our foreign policy.”
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    Let Hillary take off her burqa. Yes, it was memorable. And yes, it reflected just how hard it is to understand how, exactly, foreign policy gets made in this country. If only President Obama really were sitting in the White House, scheming with his inner circle, dreaming up diabolical plots, sending out detailed instructions to Clinton, Vice President Joe Biden, and the director of the CIA—issuing metaphorical burqas—then at least we’d all find things easier to analyze. But that’s how foreign policy gets made in North Korea, not the United States.

    The fact is that the post of secretary of state is a fabulously ill-defined job. If she so desires, Clinton can engage the world in multiple ways. She can visit, she can write, and she can speak, knowing full well that everyone will hang onto her every word. She can hold town hall meetings in the countries she visits, and indeed she has done so. She has also done TV interviews, both in the United States and abroad. One presumes that she consults with the president on major speeches and key issues, but other than that, she sets her program.

    Not only has she not been kept forcibly silent, in other words, but she possesses an extraordinary number of ways to set the agenda, and she has done so on several occasions. She created a small fuss in February by declaring that human rights debates with China aren’t very important, because “we already know what they are going to say.” Since then she’s gone out of her way to talk about human rights and its central importance to Americans. Last week in Asia, she caused a fuss by discussing a “defense umbrella” that the United States could theoretically create to protect the Middle East, in case Iran gets nuclear weapons. Since then, she—and others—have backpedaled: Leaving aside any implications for Iranian nuclear policy, her comments surely came as a surprise to other members of the administration who have been telling other people that missile defense programs are all on hold.
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    Anne Applebaum previously wondered who cared what Hillary Clinton said to China about human rights. Dahlia Lithwick explains the scandal behind Hillary: The Movie. Plus, Fred Kaplan on the 25 movies Clinton should watch.

    Clinton is not alone is possessing the power to make up policy on the spot, of course. Biden also has this power, and he, too, has used it to the fullest. Following a recent trip to Ukraine and Georgia, for example, he described the Russian economy as “withering” and its population as “shrinking.” Although neither statement was untrue, exactly, Clinton herself felt obliged to publicly reassure the Russians that Washington still views their country as a “great power.” It makes one wonder what the Russians make of it all.

    But my point isn’t that the United States should have a crystal clear, perfectly unified foreign policy of the sort that can only be made by dictatorships. My point is that it is largely up to Clinton, not Obama, to determine what kind of secretary of state she is going to be. And although she can choose her issues and pick her big moments, so far she has mostly made headlines by accident. Her recent speech at the Council on Foreign Relations, billed as an important policy statement, was bland and predictable. What we know of her official views on Russia can be encapsulated by Biden’s vapid expression “let’s press the reset button.” She has engaged in some amusing back-and-forth with the North Koreans—I give her high marks for getting them angry enough to hurl insults (“She looks like … a pensioner going shopping”)—but we don’t know yet how she thinks that problem will be solved.

    I’m not sure that Clinton, or any secretary of state, needs to have an overarching “theory” in order to explain her views. But it is up to her to tell us what she thinks is important and why. If she hasn’t done so yet, it isn’t the presiden

  106. Jan,

    Imagine the personal cache in Africa having witnessed the birth of a US president with an African father. This is a very big deal over there. When they find a letter from the grandmother that was written at the time of his birth talking about having witnessed it, that would be on thing. But what we have is an offical state announcement in Hawaii, published by the local paper of record, in a list received from the DVR, 8 days after his birth vs a statement written 47 years after the event by someone who would stand to profit off of the statement.

    In a court of law, the contemporaneous publication of the announcement in the newspaper would take credibility over a personal letter written 47 years later.

  107. Jan and Jones, if it were a “non issuue, the fraud would have put up the goods.

    BORN IN THE USA?
    Just who delivered baby Barack Obama?
    Physician who attended birth remains shrouded in mystery

    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: July 12, 2009
    9:16 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii

    Despite an in-depth search, the name of any physician or medical attendant who might have helped deliver the baby Barack Obama at Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Hospital in 1961 remains shrouded in mystery.

    The White House, despite repeated requests from WND last week, failed to provide any details on President Obama’s birth, including the name of the attending physician. It also ignored a request that it release Obama’s long-form birth certificate or obtain from the president the required permission for official medical records on his birth to be released by the hospitals and government agencies that may possess such information.

    The certification of live birth short-form document Obama’s presidential campaign produced during the 2008 election fails to provide any birth details, mentioning neither the hospital where the president was allegedly born nor the physician who attended the birth.

    Join the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

    A thorough search of Obama’s campaign websites, White House websites and the voluminous Internet discussion devoted to his birth also failed to produce any information regarding the attending physician.

    (Story continues below)

    more @ the link i posted above

  108. Asked if race relations will be on the list of topics, Gibbs said “one never gets away from it.”
    *************************

    Not if it won you the presidency anyway!

  109. “Not only has she not been kept forcibly silent, in other words, but she possesses an extraordinary number of ways to set the agenda, and she has done so on several occasions.”

    ————————-

    Exactly!

  110. jbstonesfan Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Lastly, the birth certificate is a non issue for me.,..a waste of time and makes us look bad.
    *********************************
    I was addressing both of you and took the quote from jones.

    I initially felt the same way, but there has to be something there. It is too easy to make it all go away. Something stinks and this may lead us there.

  111. Mr. Obama has reportedly spent over a million dollars trying to prevent any personal information about himself from being made public, including his birth certificate, and his college transcripts, among others. One would think that it would be relatively easy to put these questions to rest by just publicizing these records. His birth certificate should have been made public before he ever ran for any political office. What is he trying to hide?There are many people questioning the validity of that claim, including respected members of the military.

    canadafreepress.com /index.php /article /13189
    More Military Officers Accuse Obama of Treason
    Obama Media Machine Rushing to Derail Treason Charges

    JB Williams Bio
    Email Article

    By JB Williams Monday, July 27, 2009
    The massive effort to force Barack Hussein Obama to become “transparent” about his birth place and circumstance, his college years and his passport records is gathering steam. Despite a million dollars in legal fees aimed at keeping Obama’s entire life history Top Secret, a relentless pursuit of the mystery messiah not only persists,—its going viral on the web and main stream in the press…

    CNN news anchor Lou Dobbs put his career on the line by even mentioning the topic of Obama’s apparent constitutional ineligibility for the office of Commander-in-Chief. After almost two years of reports and law suits regarding Obama’s secret past, the pursuit of truth is finally reaching critical mass among American voters and the mainstream press is being forced to address the matter.

    But don’t get too excited just yet… The Obama media machine is spinning around the clock to derail all efforts to smoke Obama out into the open, where he may soon have to answer the questions he has spent years and millions dodging. Is he a “natural born citizen” eligible to hold the office of president, or is he the greatest political fraud ever perpetrated on the American electorate?

    A Charge of “Treason”
    If Obama is what so many Americans assert, an unconstitutional fraud, then the appropriate charge for his actions, and the actions of those who have “aided and abetted” the fraud, would be no less than “treason.” A crime punishable by death… The implications are extraordinarily serious!

    On June 10, 2009, I released ”Is Obama Guilty of Treason?” – in which I report the events surrounding Retired Navy Commander Walter Fitzpatrick’s criminal complaint against Barack Hussein Obama. In response to the resulting leftist character attacks on Commander Fitzpatrick that followed, I released ”Why Commander Fitzpatrick Is NOT Guilty of Mutiny!” ‚

    He could put all of this to rest

    Simply
    SHOW THE FRIGGIN BC

    AHHHHHHHHH see how easy that is.

  112. jbstonesfan 3:10
    I think officer has to attend so media won’t do a sarah palin on him.
    ============================================
    Re Gates subtopic on this thread: Yid with Lid thinks Gates would feel at home in Obama administration:

    Dr. Henry Louis Gates -Run Charity Misreported Payouts on IRS Documents

    …Inkwell Foundation, a charity headed by star Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. is filing an amended 2007 report to the Internal Revenue Service because $11,000 it paid to foundation officers as compensation was mischaracterized as being for research grants.

    Questions about Inkwell Foundation emerged over the weekend, part of a tsunami of attention Gates has received since July 16, when he was arrested at his home by a police officer responding to a report about a possible burglary in progress. The incident ignited a national debate over racial profiling, further magnified when President Obama jumped into it….

    http:// yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/07/dr-henry-louis-gates-run-charity.html

  113. The truth of the matter is that disclosure/vetting of bambi should have been done by the dimwitted dims in the first place but probably was after the fact. Did he lie to them and then got caught out? And as many here have said, if he has nothing to hide, then there should be no problem coming clean with his birth certificate, educational history, etc.

    So many possible scenarios…so little time.

  114. sorry: thought that was a workaround. reposting

    July 28th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
    jbstonesfan 3:10
    I think officer has to attend so media won’t do a sarah palin on him.
    ============================================
    Re Gates subtopic on this thread: Yid with Lid thinks Gates would feel at home in Obama administration:

    Dr. Henry Louis Gates -Run Charity Misreported Payouts on IRS Documents

    …Inkwell Foundation, a charity headed by star Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. is filing an amended 2007 report to the Internal Revenue Service because $11,000 it paid to foundation officers as compensation was mischaracterized as being for research grants.

    Questions about Inkwell Foundation emerged over the weekend, part of a tsunami of attention Gates has received since July 16, when he was arrested at his home by a police officer responding to a report about a possible burglary in progress. The incident ignited a national debate over racial profiling, further magnified when President Obama jumped into it….

    (2 slashes)yidwithlid dot blogspot.com/2009/07/dr-henry-louis-gates-run-charity.html

  115. The point is, whether you think there is something to it or not (McCains lawyers investigated and found nothing), it is not going to result in the removal of Obama. Thus, while there may be questions regarding his birthm I would rather spend time attacking things we can make a difference on. I AM NOT A BOT!!!

  116. gonzotx Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    jbstonesfan Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at
    3:16 pm
    **********************
    What a BOT

    *********************

    If you are referring to that statement it is about the author of the article, not you

  117. Jan:

    “Well if he’s bringing his family, I wonder how much serious conversation will go on.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    I read Crowley’s mother was a former school teacher. When she first heard of the complaints from Gates and Obama, crying racial profiling, she was incensed at the newsmedia promoting their statements. She defended her son stating her son’s integrity and character are above reproach angry at the aforementioned for smearing him with lies.

    Sgt Crowley’s mother is a firecracker… I hope she is going with him to the WH on Thurday…

  118. jbstonesfan Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    The point is, whether you think there is something to it or not (McCains lawyers investigated and found nothing),
    **************************************

    McCain, I would not put much faith in. He was unwilling to use ANYTHING against the fraud. He really put very little effort into the run and faulted SP after. He lost all his credibility, the little he had, for me.

    In the end, if the forces continue to attack him, he will weaken and MAYBE some of this Fascist agenda will not come to fruition.If that is all that happens, it will have been worth it.

  119. GATES-GATE AND HEALTH CARE INCOMPETENCY

    Interesting op-ed linking the two, revealing Obama’s weaknesses. Mainly, that facts don’t matter to him.

    realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/28/mr_oblivious_to_evidence_97644.html

    Mr. Oblivious to Evidence
    =================

    By Mona Charen
    July 28, 2009

    The last moments of President Obama’s press conference last week have gotten the most attention, and some of the president’s supporters have wondered whether his big-footed interference in the Cambridge professor’s melodrama has overshadowed Obama’s push for health care reform.

    But the president’s response to Gatesgate actually sheds a lot of light on his approach to health care and other issues, for this reason: Obama adopts his positions before knowing what he is talking about. To be fair, Obama admitted as much, at least as far as Gates was concerned. “I don’t know all the facts,” he acknowledged, before launching into a lecture (later retracted) about the “stupidity” of the Cambridge police (while misrepresenting what had happened).

    How could he not have known all the facts? Press secretary Robert Gibbs mentioned on Fox News Sunday that the Gates matter was one of the issues the White House press operation had briefed the president on before the press conference. Numerous accounts of the imbroglio were available online — though the president need only pick up the phone to get all the information he wants.

    He didn’t want information. He preferred his comfortable, prejudiced view.

    This is worth bearing in mind as the country takes a good, hard look at the president’s plans for health care reform. On the day he announced support for embryonic stem cell research, Mr. Obama also signed an executive memorandum declaring that in the Obama administration, “we (will) make scientific decisions based on facts, not ideology.” And yet, his health care proposals — or rather the congressional ideas he has endorsed — seem to skirt facts and evidence at every turn.

    We are told, for example, that America needs a “public option” for health insurance to “keep the insurance companies honest.” How would that work? Would it be the same as keeping Ford honest by having the government own GM? In both cases, private companies who must make a profit and pay their expenses will be forced to compete with public entities not subject to market discipline.

    Well, they counter, Medicare has been better at controlling administrative costs than private insurance companies. Economist Robert Book examined that claim and concluded that Medicare’s per-beneficiary administrative costs are substantially higher than the administrative costs of private health plans. Democrats’ argument to the contrary is based on expressing administrative costs as a share of total costs. Book explains: “If X Insurance Co. insures a healthy 25-year-old and he makes zero claims in a year, then administrative costs are the only costs.” By contrast, Medicare’s population is (by definition) disproportionately elderly, disabled, or suffering end-of-life medical crises. In fact, Book argues, Medicare’s per-beneficiary costs are rising faster than those of private insurance companies. And Medicare’s costs have risen further and faster than any of the sunny estimates politicians have offered over the past 40 years. Medicare spending doubled every four years between 1966 and 1980. Without adding any further burdens, Medicare has unfunded future obligations of $36 trillion.

    Another proposal contained in some of the Democrats’ legislation is government-approved health insurance. All private insurers would be required to provide certain benefits or be ineligible to “compete” with the public option. Has anyone in the Obama administration checked the facts on this? State governments throughout the nation have been piling mandates on insurance companies for the past 25 years. The Council for Affordable Health Insurance keeps track. Forty-five states mandate alcohol- and drug-abuse treatment. Four require coverage for hormone replacement therapy. Bone density scans are required by 16 states. Contraceptives must be covered in 29 states, and in vitro fertilization in 15. Forty-four states mandate coverage of optometrist services; 18 require infant hearing screenings, and the list goes on. Every mandate increases the price of insurance and makes it progressively more difficult for the healthy uninsured to find no-frills, catastrophic coverage. It also increases the cost of each of those “covered” procedures because when they are paid for by third parties instead of out-of-pocket by patients, patients become less cost-sensitive.

    During the campaign, John McCain proposed to allow interstate shopping for health insurance, which would at least introduce an element of competition and cost-consciousness into the system. Obama ran ads deceptively claiming that this (and other proposals) would cause people to lose the coverage they already had.

    Obama is the last man to talk of keeping others honest.

  120. ON BC

    I had to replace my BC four years ago. I am over 60 years old. I was born in Birmingham, Ala. I received my BC, it has the name of the hospital and the DOCTOR. It also has how many live births my mother had before me. This was way back then.

    Back then a lot of births were recorded in the Bible.

  121. OK, Juan is on Hannity and he is not buying what the Fraud is selling. He slammed him on Crowley, Rev Wrong and other issues.

    I know I made a statement that I didn’t trust him after listening to him a few times support the fraud and dis Hillary.The thrill of having a AA in office has mellowed wit the reality of who that man really is.

    I stand corrected

  122. Well, they counter, Medicare has been better at controlling administrative costs than private insurance companies. Economist Robert Book examined that claim and concluded that Medicare’s per-beneficiary administrative costs are substantially higher than the administrative costs of private health plans.
    ********************************

    I would like SHV to speak to this. The quote is often admin costs are 3.7% in Medicare and 30-35% in private.

    Apply the anti-trust laws to Insurance co and you will see competition.

  123. gonzotx, Juan never really mainlined the koolaid, and was more fair than many others, but I think he fell into the category of “really really wanted to believe and give the benefit of doubt to the first potential AA president. That’s understandable.

    But I think he is a good enough journalist and an honest enough man to not stubbornly cling to that past the point of sanity. Juan’s okay.

  124. I would like SHV to speak to this. The quote is often admin costs are 3.7% in Medicare and 30-35% in private.
    ********
    I have no way to verify the raw data but I think reliable published data, unfortunately now > 6 years old, showed that admin. costs for Medicare were 3.7%, private insurance ~12% and when the costs to providers of processing all of the varied private insurance forms, the denials, etc, the admin. costs were > 31% for a total of $350-400 billiom per year. Six years ago 28% of the health care delivery work force was dedicated to processing claims related to the insurance companies. Americans are paying enough money now for universal health coverage, they just aren’t getting it. If all of the tax credits, the money that goes to the Fed Employees benefits, the un-necessary admin. costs, the obscene Health Insurance profits, the artificially inflated costs of drugs, etc. are added up, it would pay for single-payer UHC. The insurance company execs aren’t giving up their multi-million dollar compensation with out a fight, however.

  125. Basement Angel

    I would you to present case law (Case number person vs person and date) where a newspaper announcement of Birth was taken over a Letter written by a witness at Birth.

    I think if you have no other source, the newspaper article could be used, but if you have both, and there is a conflict of information, the written letter of witness would take the lead.

    As to why she would want to have a child in that country, I think that might have been something important to her husband or significant other at the time. Being of that heritage, he would probably want the child to have that citizenship also. As to why he would risk his wife, I think you need to understand their culture. Women are for bearing children, and they could care less if they survive.

    I still don’t have the faith in the newspaper article that you have, in that a that could be arrange. The trust you have in the system, is just not true.

    You can see that each state records their birth, and birth information differently, and those places that were territories, or on the fringes were even loser.

    I still want to know the name of the Hospital and the doctor or whom ever delivered him. I also want to know why someone has not come forward to state that. Are all of them dead at this point? You think someone would still be alive.

    I still think you should look at some vital records sites before you believe any thing any one tells you on the phone.

  126. If he is so foolish as to spend $1M covering nothing up, why would you want that person running the budgets and finances of this country.

  127. NewMexicoFan, I have been following the BC issue at TexasDarlin’s website since the beginning and I agree with TD that he was born in Hawaii, but I believe the real BC, not the COLB will tell us just who his real father is. I think he doesn’t want that out. There is something on that BC that Axelrove doesn’t want the world to see. THis is why all his school records are closed. Everything is closed that would reveal this information.
    Some have speculated that his name on the certificate is Barry and since now his name is Barack this may be the problem. They have also tried finding the papers of his name change, there aren’t any. Maybe he changed his name to Barack after his momentus decision in the 80’s to go to Pakistan. Who knows, its all a mystery! The man needs to come clean with the lies.
    I agree there is something real fishy about the BC, if not why would someone spend that kind of money to cover it up. BTW, its always the coverup thats worse than the sin.

  128. It is easy to prove, but he needs to prove it, not hide behind that he does not have to prove it.

    We Need all the records open! If this is silenced we will never know, and he will have proven he is ominpotent, and the Democracy a facade.

    In my research of family history what I have found to be true, is the Older people tell the truth at a very high level of confidence. The younger people still want to hide things, but the older people tell it like it is.

    Something is in those records, and we have enough evidence of conflict to require that they been shown. I will not go against the Grandmother, as I think she has as much respect and right to be proven wrong, as the vital records office has. Instead, they want you to dismiss her, and salute the vital records office.

    In addition, if there was something like that in the records, why did they not spend the $1M before the run for the election having some skillful person break into that records office and fix it. I am sure there were more than a few crooks that supported O, that could have sent their people to HI.

  129. confloyd Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
    NewMexicoFan, I have been following the BC issue at TexasDarlin’s website since the beginning and I agree with TD that he was born in Hawaii,
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    I don’t know how you can make this statement as NO ONE has ANY LEGAL document in their hands.

    It is all conjecture which could be easily solved…but isn’t, therefore none of us know anything until someone digs up the truth.

    This guy has NO friends and I don’t believe the white side of his family has come forward either one way or another. Of course, he really never talks about them or really has any relationship with any of them. Half white in name only when it serves him. Truly a weird and shady character.

    Thanks SHV

  130. From Ace
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    July 28, 2009
    It’s Official: No Vote on ObamaCare Before Recess
    And It’s Also Official: “Co-ops” Just Public Option by Another Name, Said Harry Reid Three Weeks Ago
    —Ace
    Under the bus, for now.

    Memo: No health vote before recess Democratic leaders have apparently thrown in the towel — telling their Republican counterparts that there will be no health care vote on the House floor before the August recess starts this Friday, according a Republican memo obtained by POLITICO.
    The memo:

    From: Cavicke, David
    Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:51 PM
    To: REDACTED
    Subject: Schedule

    Democratic Leadership has told Mr. Boehner’s staff that there will be no vote on Health on the Floor before recess and we will leave Friday.
    We still have no confirmation of plans to resume or end the Committee Markup.

    David L. Cavicke
    Republican Chief of Staff
    Committee on Energy and Commerce

    Via AHFF Geoff.

    Also, it’s official: On July 9th, Dingy Harry Reid said that the “quasi-public co-op” might just be the way to smuggle in public option past the city gates.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NY, told reporters Thursday that a system of nonprofit cooperatives could pass as a “public option,” or government-run health care, depending on how they are set up.
    “We’re going to have some type of public option, call it ‘co-op’, call it what you want,” Reid said, adding that Democrats are working on “some verison of a co-op that may satisfy everyone.”

    This is not likely to please the legions of liberal Democrats clamoring for a plan fully-setup and managed by the federal government.

    Reid has said something fairly similar to this before, but this comes one day after he met at the White House with Vice President Joe Biden, top health care advisor Nancy-Ann DeParle, and Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina

    The co-op plan, authored by Sen Kent Conrad, D-ND, is still being tinkered with, but, working with Sen Chuck Schumer, D-NY, and other Democrats, some changes have been agreed to — like a major infusion of federal dollars at the beginning and an initial governing board set up by the feds with federal involvement. One point of contention, however, has been how long government officials remain on the board. Conrad has contended that the board should eventually be run solely by participants. Schumer and others have sought a continued government presence, trying to create a quasi-public option.

    “We don’t care what it’s called. We need something that’s going to keep the insurance companies honest,” Schumer said, adding that any co-op plan must also “be available right at the beginning, have competition…and have the strength to bargain.” Schumer said the negotiations “are going pretty well.”

  131. Reid has said something fairly similar to this before….
    ***********
    ” UnitedHealth…. CEO William McGuire.

    McGuire has long been hailed as proof that nothing is wrong with paying outlandish sums for outrageous overperformance – in his case a 40-fold increase in total return over fifteen years. (“I don’t think we could have anticipated the shares [would reach] this level five years ago,” McGuire has said in rejecting the “perceived problem” of his excessive comp.)
    (snip)
    McGuire’s trove of in-the-money options from $1.6 billion in December to a still hefty $1 billion today.”

    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/07/10/8380799/

    The 40% increase in returns and the $1-1.6 billion compensation for the CEO didn’t come from providing health care, it came from collecting premiums and providing as little care as possible. And, oh BTH, who has received the most money from United Health since 2007?….Harry Reid…no one in Congress is interested in providing affordable UHC to the American people.

  132. sorry double post..I messed up the link
    **********Reid has said something fairly similar to this before….
    ***********
    ” UnitedHealth…. CEO William McGuire.

    McGuire has long been hailed as proof that nothing is wrong with paying outlandish sums for outrageous overperformance – in his case a 40-fold increase in total return over fifteen years. (”I don’t think we could have anticipated the shares [would reach] this level five years ago,” McGuire has said in rejecting the “perceived problem” of his excessive comp.)
    (snip)
    McGuire’s trove of in-the-money options from $1.6 billion in December to a still hefty $1 billion today.”

    money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/07/10/8380799/

    The 40% increase in returns and the $1-1.6 billion compensation for the CEO didn’t come from providing health care, it came from collecting premiums and providing as little care as possible. And, oh BTH, who has received the most money from United Health since 2007?….Harry Reid…no one in Congress is interested in providing affordable UHC to the American people.

  133. gonzotex, What I am saying is that I agree with TD about the place of birth, but I agree with everyone else there is something he is hiding. I don’t think it something as simple as the name being Barry Soetoro, its much more sinister. If we can just figure out what is the common denominator between the BC and the school records we will be heading in the right direction. I personally think its the name of the real father. Its all just conjecture, but until the idiot releases the BC/school records he is throwing gasoline on the fire.
    Whatever it is, its got to be good for Axelrove/Emmanuel/Pelose to put their asses on the line for it. If we get this information and it is damning the three stooges careers will be OVER.

  134. confloyd Says:

    July 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
    gonzotex, What I am saying is that I agree with TD about the place of birth
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    But that makes no sense. We have no proof of ANYTHING at this point.

  135. Poll: Obama Approval Rating at New Low

    July 27, 2009 by W. Hampton Harris

    A poll published today by Rasmussen Reports shows that President Barack Obama’s approval ratings have hit an all-time low. 40% of those polled said they “strongly disapprove” of the president’s job performance so far, while only 30% said they “strongly approve.” This gives
    Poll: Obama Approval Rating at New Low
    Date: July 27, 2009
    Washington, DC

    United States of AmericaObama a net of -10%, which is the worst number he has seen since being sworn into office just over six months ago. The numbers manifest themselves most clearly when looked at in terms of party. 72% of republicans strongly disapprove of the president while only 56% of democrats strongly approve of the job he is doing. These numbers suggest that the opposition to Obama is simply more passionate than his support.

    President Obama, who marketed himself as a moderate during his campaign, is being seen increasingly as a liberal by voters. 76% of those polled said they believed Obama was a liberal, while 48% said they see him as “very liberal.” The latter number is up an astounding 20 points from where it was at the time he was elected. Only 49% of those polled said they at least somewhat approve of the job the president is doing.

    Obama’s numbers took a significant hit after perhaps the most egregious gaff of his presidency during his news conference Wednesday night. Obama took a primetime slot on television to sell the American people on his plan for health care reform, but ended the event by taking a question on a recent incident in Cambridge in which a black professor is claiming he was arrested because of his race. Obama commented that the officers in the case acted “stupidly.” The comment essentially rewrote the headlines, taking all the attention away from Obama’s explanation of his health care policy. Amidst demands for an apology from Cambridge law enforcement, the president called and reportedly reconciled with the officer in question, but polls still show that the incident was a blow to his popularity.

    associatedcontent.com/article/1990588/poll_obama_approval_rating_at_new_low.html

  136. Great, now that he is aT new low, let us bring on the actual Birth records which shows, when, where, who delivered him, who his parents are, and under what name was it recorded.

    WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.

    HE IS NOT WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS, OR ACTUALLY HE IS NOT WHO YOU THOUGHT HE WAS.

  137. this is a good interview with Greta and with Crowley’s just retired supervisor, Michael Giatoppo – there are two clips of the interview – the last three minutes of the second tape are the most significant…clue: “your momma”

    (bottom line – Gates and O messed with the wrong white guy to play their race card)

    gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/28/full-interview-with-sgt-crowleys-boss/
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    gonzotx and HFT…I think we are seeing Juan in a similar light…he did take understandable emotional pride in the election of the first AA…but he is not cutting him any slack any more…

    I may have heard him defend Hill a few more times…if I ever come across the clips I will post…

  138. I remember, during the primary, reading that there were also statemnents from a doctor in Kenya naming the hospital and claiming to be the physician at the birth. I believe that I read that in a british paper.

    I also do not trust the “paper ” archives. There is obviously a lot at stake here. I believe the archives could be manipulated.

    Even if BO was in fact born in Hawaii, there is obviously a problem…..either pertaining to his name or alledged father etc. There is something being covered up which ties in to the refusal to release college records, etc.This is what I believe. And as Lou dobbs says, why not just produce the info if there is nothing to hide? Name the doctor and the Hospital.

    Did his mother hve prenatal care in hawaii? How can someone go thru the childbearing process and not know the name o the doctor and hospital? There is definitely more than arrogance here.

  139. New Mexico:

    Early on Phil Berg was the primary litigator that has done extensive research on Obama’s Birth Certificate issue. The circumstantial evidence he has gathered all points to Obama was not Natural Born.

    Basement Angel, not being a stickler, but Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961 not Aug 5th as you posted. And just as a point of fact. At the time Obama was born, his mother most likely was in Mobassa, Kenya as Obama’s father wanted him to be a citizen of Kenya. It was customary for X-Patriots to fly into HI and register the birth in HI even though the child was born elsewhere.

    It’s all explained here at Berg’s site. h…. w….obamacrimes.com/

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