Hillary Steps Up, Palin Sets Up, Obama Screws Up

On his sixth month anniversary in office Barack Obama proved yet again he is not ready on Day 1, Week 1 or Month 6.

Governor Sarah Palin today takes the target off her back in Alaska and begins a 3 year effort to vanquish the sexists and misogynists in the Republican Party and eventually confront the sexists and misogynists in the Dimocratic Party.

Hillary Clinton today displayed why the United States made an historic mistake in allowing the Dimocrats to gift Obama the nomination and deny ourselves a president of great quality.

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Hillary:

Hillary understands that unstable and desperate countries must be told without equivocation that they will not be allowed to run roughshod and threaten international peace now or in the future.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday that Iran will never achieve its goal of obtaining a nuclear weapon, declaring to Tehran: “Your pursuit is futile.”

“What we want to do is to send a message to whoever is making these decisions, that if you’re pursuing nuclear weapons for the purpose of intimidating, of projecting your power, we’re not going to let that happen,” Clinton said.

“First, we’re going to do everything we can to prevent you from ever getting a nuclear weapon. But your pursuit is futile, because we will never let Iran — nuclear-armed, not nuclear-armed — it is something that we view with great concern, and that’s why we’re doing everything we can to prevent that from ever happening. … We believe, as a matter of policy, it is unacceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons.”



The clear words were meant for the current leaders of Iran. To the people of Iran, Hillary spoke the words they needed to hear, the words they expected to hear, from an American president.

“I have been moved by the … cries for freedom. … People that go back millennia, that have such a great culture and history, deserve better than what they’re getting.”

Listening to Hillary speak Americans realized that we too “deserve better” than what we are getting.

To North Korea’s rulers, Hillary again spoke with clarity:

“They’ve engaged in a lot of provocative action in the last months. … It’s not going to work this time.”

“It’s not only that North Korea has, against the international norms … proceeded with this effort, but they also are a proliferator,” she said. “We know that for a fact. So it’s not only the threat they pose to their neighbors, and eventually beyond, but the fact that they’re trying to arm others.” [snip]

Clinton began by saying: “What’s important here is the clear message that we’re sending to North Korea. … North Korea must change their behavior, and we have to get back to moving toward verifiable denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula in a peaceful manner. … We’re imposing the most stringent sanctions we ever have. We have great cooperation from the world community.

“We still want North Korea to come back to the negotiating table to be part of an international effort that will lead to denuclearization. But we’re not going to reward them … for half-measures. They now know what we and the world community expect.

“We want to make clear to North Korea that their behavior is not going to be rewarded. In the past, they believed that they have acted out — doing things which really went against the norms of the international community—and somehow then were rewarded. Those days are over.”

Hillary also taught Vice President Joe Biden how to speak with wisdom and deal with adversaries on the world stage:

Asked whether this meant that the U.S. would now act as if it possessed the upper hand, Clinton responded, “No, I don’t think that’s all what the Vice President meant.”

She added that the US still views Russia “as a great power.”

“Every country faces challenges,” Clinton said. “We have our challenges. Russia has their challenges. And there are certain issues that Russia has to deal with on their own. We want to make clear as we reset our relationship we are very clearly not saying that Russia can have a 21st century sphere of influence in eastern Europe. That is an attitude and policy we reject. We are also making it very clear that any nation in eastern Europe that used to be a part of the Soviet Union…[can] choose whatever alliance they want to join.”

Clinton acknowledged that Russia has been “very helpful” in its support of the U.S. efforts to deal with North Korea, and that the nations continue to work together on matters of nuclear arsenals, loose fissile material and violent extremism.

“There is an enormous amount of work to be done between us and Russia,” Clinton said.

Hillary… sigh.

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Palin:

Today is Governor Sarah Palin’s last day as Alaska Governor. Governor Palin is ready for the next stage of her political career. We assume, because she is the freshest and most dynamic voice thus far that the Republicans have, that Governor Palin will likely run for president – but in any event Palin will be instrumental is creating and communicating the eventual Republican Party message.

But Sarah Palin really has only one decision to make: to confront sexism and misogyny or not.

Advice to Palin to get a unified team (not the SarahPAC team fighting the Governor Palin team), study up on foreign, economic, and domestic policy, fund-raise, organize in all 50 states, etc. are all well and good but ultimately not the problem. Sexism and misogyny are the problem.

We Hillary supporters have witnessed in the past few years the deep, pervasive, and entrenched, sexism and misogyny in American society. We Hillary supporters have witnessed that in many instances, particularly with women, the sexism and misogyny are so entrenched that it is not even recognized, nor acknowledged, by many women and men.

Sarah Palin will have to confront the many Republican sexists and misogynists as well as rivals for the presidency who will utilize sexism and misogyny to destroy her. Palin will do a great service if, by running, she brings an anti-sexism and anti-misogyny message to Republicans who have previously seen that struggle as a ‘Democratic sissy boy’ concern.

A Sarah Palin candidacy for President would be a new twist to the culture wars if she educates Republicans on these issues and shames Dimocrats for the sexism and misogyny they luxuriated in with their attacks on Hillary Clinton.

We Democrats are not in agreement with Governor Palin on many issues. But Governor Palin has the potential to created a unified front with Hillary supporters, who are aware of and want to end the applause sexism and misogyny receives from Obama Dimocrats, with Republicans who in their self-interest will finally accept that sexism and misogyny are indeed a big problem in American society.

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Obama:

Obama will take another Bush-style vacation in August. Obama will not go to Republican Texas, but rather to the lovely and wealthy precincts of Martha’s Vineyard. Obama will send a clear message to Americans: “I’ve got great health insurance, a Rezko house, and tens of thousands of dollars to spend on a vacation house – and screw you unemployed, unhealthy, uninsured, bitter and clingy Americans.”

George W. Bush went on vacation in August 2001, just before the planes hit, instead of implementing Bill Clinton’s recommendations on Bin Laden. Now Obama will vacay in the Vineyard while Americans burn.

Congress’s failure to deliver major health care legislation by President Barack Obama’s deadline next month transforms the traditionally sleepy August recess into what could be the decisive moment in the battle to win support for the legislation, especially from conservative Democrats considered crucial to its fate.

The recess, scheduled to begin August 7, will put to the test Obama’s vaunted, high tech political machine and the coordinated network of progressive groups that has been quietly preparing for months for this battle. They face, on the other side, a bruised Republican camp hoping to revive itself through a winning campaign against their opponents’ top priority.

That has made what was supposed to be a respite from the hand-to-hand combat of Washington politics into, perhaps, the most crucial month of Obama’s first year. And it will bring the battle over key elements of health care reform into dozens of targeted congressional districts.

August, will be a fake or break month for Obama and his Hopium addled Dimocrats. Obama will either have to bamboozle to an extraordinary degree, even for him, or he will be broken. July has not been particularly good either.

Barack Obama will look to rebound from one of the most difficult weeks of his six-month presidency, one in which his legislative priority, healthcare, stumbled and he got caught up in a racial controversy. [snip]

A Gallup poll released on Friday said only 41 percent of those surveyed wanted legislation approved this year, and the poll was done on Thursday night, one day after Obama’s healthcare-dominated news conference.

Other poll results paint a picture of an apparent rough patch for the president, as he tries to steer the country out of a lingering recession while pushing an ambitious agenda of making healthcare more affordable and accessible and addressing global warming.

Dimocrats are becoming Democrats again; the bamboozled are debamboozling:

But Americans are beginning to sour on his economic policies. A USA Today/Gallup poll last week said that by 49 percent to 47 percent, those surveyed disapprove of how he is handling the economy, a turnaround from his 55 percent to 42 percent approval in May.

The poll said the biggest drop came from conservative and moderate Democrats.

Fifty-nine percent said his proposals called for too much government spending, the poll found.

Obama also had Harvard egghead problems. But we wondered, is there a country, a country without Black/White problems, in which a citizen could insult a cop’s mother, or yell at a law enforcement officer, and the police would not be upset and effect an arrest?

Put another way, can anyone think of a country or a situation, where the Black/White racial dynamic is unquestionably absent, in which a cop would take punk talk from a prof’? We can’t think of such a place other than “stupid” Obama-egghead-friend-world:

The remark intensified the controversy and eventually forced Obama to back down in a surprise appearance in the White House press briefing room on Friday in which he said he regretted the remark.

The White House hopes a planned meeting over a beer between Obama, Crowley and Gates in the near future will defuse a contretemps that Obama admitted had become a distraction.

“I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but nobody has been paying much attention to healthcare,” he told reporters.

In a rational world, Hillary would be helping Americans from the White House, Sarah Palin would be enjoying a vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, and Barack Obama would be hanging out with flakes and counting snowflakes in Alaska. But it is not a rational world.

Instead we have Hillary deflecting politically about her future while stepping up on the foreign front, Sarah Palin getting set up for the biggest moves of her life and for the Republican Party, and Obama packing his bags for another vacation and even more glorious opportunities to screw up.

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224 thoughts on “Hillary Steps Up, Palin Sets Up, Obama Screws Up

  1. Admin: thank you for posting the salient points of what she said vis a vis Iran, Russia and North Korea. It refutes Bambis stupidity in saying we cannot prevent Iran from acquiring nukes, Bidens comments about Russia when he was kissing the blarney stone, and Obamas paralysis at North Korea.

    As I said earlier, a sea change has occured and Hillary is in charge of foreign policy. The prior efforts by his people to marginalize her failed. I think it is because of Israel. I think they are ready to act if we do not. And they have a deep distrust of Obama, and think the Jews here who support him are living in lala land. I suspect that they and other allies have sent a vote of no confidence in Obama on foreign policy. This is no time for dilatantes.

  2. Agreed, Admin.

    HRC did look and sound presidential today. :sigh:

    And I’ve been following the SP story and hoping she’ll ratchet the fight up now that’s she’s no longer Alaska gov.

    About BO, I can’t stand to watch or hear him.

    OTOH, Now THIS is a House Of Rep Resolution with cojones, NOT like that fake let-s-have-a-moment-of-silence-for MJ sh!t!

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Congress would demand that President Obama apologize to the officer the president said had “acted stupidly” in the arrest of a prominent Harvard professor under a resolution set to be introduced by one Michigan lawmaker.

    Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) will introduce a House resolution on Monday demanding Obama retract and apologize for remarks he has made about Cambridge Police Sergeant James Crowley this past week.

  3. When I watch Wexler and his followers worship Obama, I am reminded of the scene in the Old Testament where Moses comes down off the mountain having just received the Ten Commandments and sees the people worshipping the Golden Calf. He condemns their blasphemy and sets them back on the right track with a little help from the man upstairs. That is the way I see Bibi at this point. Bambi is the Golden Calf.

  4. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) will introduce a House resolution on Monday demanding Obama retract and apologize for remarks he has made about Cambridge Police Sergeant James Crowley this past week.
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    Good move. He is the best orator in the House.

  5. Excellent article, Admin.

    “Dimocrats are becoming Democrats again; the bamboozled are debamboozling”

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    I hope this trend continues. It must be a scary time for the bots right now as well. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving group.

  6. Basil: if you go back and read what I was saying a couple weeks ago it was very different from what I said above. Admins wisdom prevailed, but it was clear to many of us at that time that they were marginalizing her and we were getting that information from both parties, and foreign leaders, and some of her own comments. That was an accurate snapshot at that time. Now I believe it is different. I speculated on the reason, and I am reasonably sure I am right if you listen to the comments of Michael Boulton, and the fact that the neocons are being consulted. Today we have another snapshot, and it started when she was in Indonesia and reached a climeractic in the interview this morning judging by the posted quotes. It says Hillary in charge. The reason I mention this is because regardless of what is said or done today things will change. That insight helps me realize that everything can change–and probably will between now and 2012. Keep the faith. Just remember what the republican stategist told me on friday when I got dug in on one of my inevitable scenarios: the man (woman), the moment and the message will determine what happens in 2012.

  7. Thank you admin.your commentin this new post is also historic and should be preserved and repeated frequently for all the Americans that were not able to see or hear Hillary deliver a magnificent and historic interview.
    Today marks a change of direction in the disasterous path that this country is taking being led there by the worst president in our history.A significant sign is the State Dept Official website has posted the SoS interview in its entiriye and by now has circled the world for all to hear and see.One must appreciate what a giant show of respect this tribute by her thousands of employees and staff have paid to on this long to be remembered date
    Today.July 26 2009 is the beginning
    of real hope and change that is genuine and meaningful by the most
    eloquent and and wise woman in our history.She did not and will not mention her presidential aspirations for the future.THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
    WILL DO THAT FOR LOVE OF COUNTRY.

  8. I know it is discouraging to many to listen to her praise him and say she probably won’t run again but she has to do these things. The divide between the Obama supporters and her supporters will grow even more deeply if she never becomes President. He has racially divided this country but if Hillary never becomes President, there is going to be alot of permanent resentment against blacks. It is already starting. What we need is a Republican comeback in 2010 and Obama to be in a position where he knows he cannot be reelected. He’s so arrogant and narcissistic that he won’t run if he knows for sure that he win. For the first time in my life, I hope Dick Morris is correct about him becoming so politically radioactive that the Democrats dump him, black or not.

  9. When it comes to Hillary being marginaled or not, I need to be very cognizant of how the media, as corrupt as it is, can still be someone convincing at times. I think it is the “bludgeon someone so often and from all corners of the earth that you finally let a bit of doubt creep in” syndrome for me. It is subliminal suggestion at it’s worse but also malicious gossip and twisting of truth to always make bambi look the conqueror.

    And now that Hillary is out there again doing what she does best, I am sure the attacks will start again to try and crush her spirit. I just hope that I don’t fall for this idiocy where she is concerned.

  10. I know it is discouraging to many to listen to her praise him and say she probably won’t run again but she has to do these things. The divide between the Obama supporters and her supporters will grow even more deeply if she never becomes President. He has racially divided this country but if Hillary never becomes President, there is going to be alot of permanent resentment against blacks. It is already starting. What we need is a Republican comeback in 2010 and Obama to be in a position where he knows he cannot be reelected. He’s so arrogant and narcissistic that he won’t run if he knows for sure that he win. For the first time in my life, I hope Dick Morris is correct about him becoming so politically radioactive that the Democrats dump him, black or not.
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    That is exactly my thinking. When it comes to bots the answer is the same as the Larry Johnsons blog–no quarter. Speaking for myself, the animosity and contempt I feel toward them is permanent and grows with every downtick in the economy. Question: what would those party elders who feared giving the nomination to Hillary because it would cause the blacks to revolt and thus divide the party say if the white people walked away from the party because of this thug. Where are the jobs you promised, Obama? If I were working for the RNC I would be building my strategy around that.

  11. That is also the way to build the big tent which the Republicans have lost sight of. It is elementary that Hispanics, Asians and others have a vested interest in jobs. The very jobs he promised and cannot deliver, except for his cronies. It is so fucking Ghicago. But the larger demographic at the present time is still the whites, and the animus of race baiters like Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and now Gates is clearly directed at them. That is the bigger threat to his political future now.

  12. My biggest joy would be to see this imposter booted out after his first term or even before. The implications would be huge.

  13. what would those party elders who feared giving the nomination to Hillary because it would cause the blacks to revolt
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    I think that was a rationalization and PR meme to cover the real reason: Pure, unadulterated hatred of anything Clinton by the “Elites”. Poor Arkansas boy wins Presidency x2 by going against the Party Losers.

  14. Here’s a thoughtful assessment of the health care fracas from, of all places, the WAPO!!
    The Clintons recognized that the nub of the problem was the parasitical insurance companies. Barry’s first thought was to make certain that the most useless actors in the health care process get a guaranteed big slice of the pie. The Clintons really thought about the well being of the ordinary people but Obama and the Chicago crowd always first make sure that the money guys are taken care of. The system is an unfair chaotic botch right now and Barry’s efforts are sure to make it worse.

    washingtonpost.com
    The Ghosts of Clintoncare

    By Ezra Klein
    Sunday, July 26, 2009

    Barack Obama’s strategy to pass health-care reform seems based on a simple principle: Whatever Bill Clinton did, do the opposite.

    Where Clinton and his team crafted their health-care reform plan in the executive branch, Obama has left the details of his effort almost entirely to Congress. Where Clinton pursued an ambitious reconstruction of the entire sector, Obama has sought to preserve existing insurance arrangements and win the support of industry players. Where Clinton spent a year developing his bill before even getting to Congress, Obama lashed his efforts to a tight (and apparently unrealizable) timetable. Even the atmospherics offer contrasts: Clinton’s big push for reform came in a soaring 1993 speech before a joint session of Congress, in which he offered painstaking details of his plans; Obama made his argument to the nation at a news conference last week, addressing concerns more than specifying proposals.

    Obama’s reluctance to follow Clinton’s example is understandable: Few legislative failures have been as catastrophic as Clinton’s on health-care reform. Yet the ghosts of the early 1990s still hover over today’s debates.

    Much as opponents derided the Clinton effort as Clintoncare or Hillarycare, some now speak of Obamacare, and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) recently chortled in a conference call that a defeat on health care would be Obama’s “Waterloo.” The president, for his part, told PBS’s Jim Lehrer last week that some Republicans are engaging in a 1994 redux. “They explicitly went after the Clintons, said: ‘We’re not going to get this done.’ . . . It was a pure political play, a show of strength by the Republicans that helped them regain the House,” Obama said. “I think there are folks who think that we should try to dust off that old playbook.”

    Yet there are aspects of Clinton’s approach that could, and should, inform Obama’s effort — and not just as examples of what not to do. Clinton’s attempt to remake health care may be remembered now as a moment of colossal hubris and epic political misjudgment, but his project was bedeviled by a greater sin: prescience. Clinton got the politics of reform wrong, but in important ways, he got the policy right. He just got it right too soon.

    By the time Clinton and his team took office, the insurance market was changing. American consumers had traditionally relied on the most straightforward of insurance products: indemnity insurance. You went to the doctor or hospital of your choice, and that doctor or hospital sent your insurer the bill. Hopefully, your insurer paid it. That was that. The plans weren’t confined to networks tangled in deductibles and co-pays. But they weren’t holding down costs, either, and the system was becoming unaffordable. Managed care, a new system that was rapidly emerging, envisioned a more central role for insurers. After all, they were paying for your treatment, so why shouldn’t they get some say in how it was conducted?

    The managed-care revolution of the mid-90s was, by the early years of that decade, clearly inevitable; the financing and delivery of health care could not remain separate forever. But this was a dangerous change. Insurers make money by denying claims. Money they spend on health care is money they lose (they even have a name for it: the “medical-loss ratio”). Private insurance is a bit like a fire department that turns a profit by letting buildings burn down.

    So Clinton sought to cage managed care inside managed competition, which would regulate the behavior of insurers and force them to compete for patients. This would give consumers more power against their insurance companies, drive the bad actors from the market and generally protect against the excesses of managed care. Clinton’s plan also included a handful of other safeguards, like out-of-pocket caps and an independent appeals process, designed to protect consumers from deficient insurance.

    “Clinton attempted to grapple with that change that was coming,” recalls Sara Rosenbaum, director of George Washington University’s School of Public Health and Health Services and one of the lead drafters of Clinton’s bill, “but to also make sure that there would be a higher power than just the market.”

    But if Clinton’s team of enlightened wonks could glimpse managed care over the horizon, the public wasn’t as farsighted. Bill and Hillary weren’t seen as meeting and taming the managed-care revolution. The act of writing legislation that included managed care made it seem as if they were proposing it. And there was no political margin in that. Managed care, after all, means less choice. It means provider networks and insurance bureaucrats and complexity. It would have been a hard sell under any circumstances, but the Clinton administration’s chaotic political operation and continual drip of scandals made the job virtually impossible. The plan died a painful and public death in Congress and contributed to the GOP’s huge gains in the 1994 elections.

    But then a funny thing happened: Managed care came anyway. By last year, only 7 percent of American workers were in “traditional” indemnity health plans, while the rest of us — or at least those of us fortunate enough to have insurance — were swimming in the alphabet soup of HMOs and PPOs and HDHPs. We’re all in networks now. We don’t get our choice of doctor. There’s no appeals process. No out-of-pocket caps. Nothing to stop insurers from rejecting our coverage applications based on preexisting conditions. And if we don’t like our insurer? Tough.

    “We got managed care,” says Chris Jennings, who was one of Clinton’s top health-care staffers. “But we didn’t get the things that would protect us from managed care. We got the Wild West version of it.”

    In the modern health-care system, there is no higher power than the insurance market. And the insurers who populate that market have grown all the stronger. The Justice Department judges an industry “highly concentrated” if a single company controls more than 42 percent of the market. By that definition, 94 percent of statewide insurance markets are highly concentrated. A recent study by the advocacy organization Health Care for America Now showed that in Indiana, WellPoint controls 60 percent of the insurance market; in Iowa, Wellmark accounts for 71 percent; and in Alabama, Blue Cross/Blue Shield holds 83 percent. In the past 13 years, there have been more than 400 corporate mergers involving health insurers.

    Economics textbooks tell us that concentrated markets reduce the competitive behavior that benefits consumers and lead to outsize profits for the dominant firms. Predictably, health-care premiums shot up more than 90 percent between 2000 and 2007, while the profits of the 10 largest insurers increased 428 percent over the same period. Clinton had promised us managed care within managed competition. Instead, the insurers took control of our care and managed to effectively end competition. Neat trick.

    This has not gone totally unnoticed in the political system. In September 2007, a young senator lamented that the number of insurers had fallen by 20 percent since 2000. The senator? Barack Obama.

    All of this has led to an interesting reversal in this year’s health-care debate. In 1994, people feared that Clinton would restrict their choices. In 2009, people want Obama to bring their choices back. On June 2, Obama sent Sens. Ted Kennedy and Max Baucus, key players on reform, a letter laying out his “core belief” on a health overhaul: “that Americans should have better choices for health insurance.” He’s tapping into something. A Washington Post-ABC News poll last month showed that 62 percent of Americans support the choice of a public insurance option. It’s one of the most popular aspects of health-care reform. But if the public option would drive private insurers out of business and reduce consumer choice, the numbers flip, with 58 percent opposing it.

    What people support, in other words, is not public or private insurance, but choice in insurance. That, along with protection from escalating costs, is the inviolable principle of health-care reform.

    The irony is that some of the health reform proposals on the table this year are a bit of back to the future. The health insurance exchanges that Obama envisions — regulated markets that the government would set up where insurers would compete for business — are the successors to the managed competition that Clinton sought. The regulations on insurer behavior and the out-of-pocket caps are direct descendants of the Clinton bill.

    There are important ways, however, in which the bills currently working their way through Congress do not go as far as Clinton’s plan did 15 years ago. In attempting to ensure that Americans can keep the coverage they like, they do not always ensure that people can leave insurers they do not like. The insurance exchanges, in particular, are limited to the self-employed, the uninsured and small businesses. Someone who works for a larger employer would not have any more choice under these proposals. Indeed, the problem with trying to make sure that everyone can keep what they have is that you can’t change very much. This makes it hard for advocates to explain exactly how health-care reform will improve conditions for the insured, at least in the short term.

    Many in the White House say this is not a bug in the proposed system; it’s a deliberate feature. The lesson of Clintoncare was that even if the American people want reform, they do not necessarily want change. And so Obama’s health-care strategy involves a delicate effort to answer the question that doomed Clinton: How do you reform the health-care system without substantially changing it?

    But this is not the early 1990s. The indemnity insurance that most Americans enjoyed then is virtually nonexistent today. The mergers and takeovers and consolidations in the insurance market have given people less choice and thus less power. Today, the cost issue is more acute, the president is more popular, the Democrats have more seats in Congress, and the Republicans are more fractured. Obama, in other words, was right to dismiss those who would “dust off that old playbook.”

    But the ghosts still hover. Republicans are fixated on what worked for them in the last health-care battle, and Democrats are overly concerned with what contributed to their failure. Just as Clinton’s plan was weighed down by the impression that it would change too much, history may leave Obama’s effort vulnerable to the charge that it is changing too little.

    kleine@washpost.com

    Ezra Klein reports on domestic and economic policy for The Post and blogs at washingtonpost.com/ezraklein.

  15. ABM 90: Appropos of Obama and the bots, there is a story to tell. At the end of World War II General Gavin of the 82nd Airborne was in Berlin. He watched the captured German soldiers who were not SS but simply recruits or draftees by marched around a colloseum, abused and sent away to places from which they never returned. His Gavins statement was they were pushing partisan advantage to its bitter extreme and it was a mistake. Three years earlier there was the German soldier who wrote in his diary that he knew the war was lost when they raised the german flag rather than the ukranian flag over liberated ukraine. Again, partisan advantage was pushed to its bitter extreme and the war was lost long before stalingrad. This race issue is something he should have avoided altogether. Instead he revels in it and protects the race baiter. Believe me this is a deteriorating situation for him politically, and at this point it is hard to imagine what he can do about it. The die is cast.

  16. Wbboei, ABM,

    I like your analyses of HRC’s interview today.

    Again, I hope you’re right.

    Warehouse, I agree that the Dims didn’t think through their strategy too well. This white Americfan has left the party for good, along with millions of others. I’m now a registered Indy.

  17. The die is cast
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    iacta alea est….The Rubicon for the DNC was crossed when they decided to appoint an incompetent sociopath as POTUS.

  18. I don’t think the media has changed where HRC is concerned. That Kimmel thing and now today that kacle thing. Hillary has been MSNBC’s punching bag for years and they are just not going to stop unless we enact some laws in this country. Have you all noticed almost NO hideous skits or bad jokes about Obama?? The Clintons and Sarah Palin however, are still # 1 on the hit list. If the entertainment industry thinks its in bad taste to make fun of our first black president, then its should be of bad taste to make fun of our first ladies and governors also. THese sexiest remarks really need to STOP!

    As far as Hillary running again, I pray she does. I hope I am wrong. I hope these MAGGOTS will not succeed in keeping her down.

    Yes she looked beautiful and Presidential today and everyday. I loved her remark about the beer, however she did not bring up what the Prez’s initial statement was. I can imagine she was appalled at it. She was always so respectful of the Police, remember she took time out of her busy campaign to go to the fallen officers funeral. She has a huge heart and it isn’t a publicity stunt as this beer thing will be.

  19. Blue, –

    Ezra Klein has been one of the biggest Obama cheerleaders who pretends to know a great deal about healthcare but actually lacks the common sense needed to comment intelligently.

    Klein is another one of those that blames Democratic losses in the 1994 elections on the failure of health care reform. Yes, health care reform was part of the problem, but the bigger reason was that Republicans, under Newt Gingrich, were united in opposition to the increasingly obvious Democratic congress’ corruptions or perceived corruptions.

    Klein also forgets that Dimocrats hated Clinton because Bill Clinton decided to fight deficits and the debt instead of giving them tons of wasteful dollars in “stimulus” money to spend. If Klein wants to comment intelligently he should point out that Obama gave the Dimocrats the big “stimulus” trillion they wanted in order to buy their good will – that was lesson #1 from the Clinton years for Obama.

    Klein presumes that Obama took lessons from the Clinton effort and that was not to “dictate” the health care bill. But we think our analysis is much more accurate: Obama has never fought for anything or anybody other than his own selfish career advancement. That is the real reason why Obama let the Dimocrats in congress do the work, not as a reaction to the Clinton effort.

    Only now are fools and cheerleaders like Ezra Klein realizing that what Hillary and Bill tried to do was courageous and darn smart. BTW, Klein is still pushing the idea that the Obama health insurance schemes will pass because politically it will help the Dimocrats (we disagree with Klein on that too). Klein is only now beginning to understand, or at least publish, that the Clinton plan was the right way to go because we suspect that for all the brave words Klein is beginning to think that the Obama “plan” is going to fail.

    The prospect of failure is what is waking up Klein and a lot of Dimocrats. If the Dimocrats lose as big as we think is possible in 2010 then a lot of wishing and hoping might be dispelled and Dimocrats will wake up to the historic disaster they have enabled. Then the fight will turn into getting rid of Obama the boob.

  20. wbboei

    The race card played alot better before he was elected. Now people expect him to respect and represent all the people, and to for sure not to rush to judgement in a racial situation. As the President he should understand that he works for all and represents all, and we expect him to have the wisdom of Soloman.

    However, He does not.

  21. Admin – Thanks for your riposte! Obviously you have Klein’s history well in hand, and I
    did not until you set me straight.
    Barry has, as you say, never done anything for anybody and he has never held a steady job. His selfishness alone does not explain his abandoning the health care issue to the
    tender mercies of a moronic and corrupt Congress. The real truth is that he just doesn’t understand the complex issues of health care, doesn’t have the political skill and the knowledge to originate any “Plan”. He has turned it over to the clowns in Congress because he is sure that he can give it a “Chicago Boost” before it reaches his desk. Now
    it looks like the whole sad mess is going to lose in the Senate anyway, so this will turn
    out to be yet another nail in his political coffin. If Klein gets it, there sure must be a lot more…

  22. I don’t think the media has changed where HRC is concerned. That Kimmel thing and now today that kacle thing. Hillary has been MSNBC’s punching bag for years and they are just not going to stop unless we enact some laws in this country.
    ———————————
    The beauty of it is they look like the whores they are, and they keep her name in the headlines whereas their recent attempt was to reduce her to a non person by ignoring what she was doing. She can play it either way and so can sarah. If they attack she wins because she is saving the country, nobody likes a bully and it defeats their attempt to diminish her stature. Like FDR said I do not care what they say about me just spell the name right.

  23. WHATS HAPPENING TO THE NATIONS GOVERNOR’S OUGHT TO CONCERN THE DEMS FOR MIDTERMS NEXT YEAR.

    This is an excellent piece to read.

    With polls showing a drop in Barack Obama’s job rating and sinking support for the Democrats’ health care plans, there is evidence of collateral damage where you might not expect to find it, in the standing of Democratic governors. Pennsylvania’s Ed Rendell is suddenly getting negative job ratings in both the Quinnipiac and the Franklin and Marshall polls — his lowest marks in seven years as governor. Ohio’s Ted Strickland, who has spent most of his first term working amicably with Republican legislators, scores under 50 percent in the latest Quinnipiac poll and has only tenuous leads over two Republicans, John Kasich and Mike DeWine, who may run against him next year.

    In the two governor races being contested this year, Republicans seem to have an advantage. Republican Bob McDonnell has led Democrat Creigh Deeds in all but one poll and picked up the support of Black Entertainment Television billionaire Sheila Johnson, one of the biggest contributors to the incumbent, Democratic National Chairman Tim Kaine. New Jersey incumbent Jon Corzine, who spent more than $100 million on narrow wins for senator in 2000 and governor in 2005, is 15 points behind Republican Chris Christie. Corzine will not be helped by the indictment of multiple Jersey pols, most of them Democrats, in a case initiated by Christie when he was U.S. attorney.

    There’s an argument that these results hold little relevance to the standing of the national parties. Almost every state faces severe fiscal problems, and standoffs between a governor and a legislature can drag the governor’s ratings way down, as in the case of California’s Arnold Schwarzenegger. Moreover, a governor’s personal strengths and weaknesses can override party identification; one of the nation’s highest-rated governors is Dave Freudenthal, a Democrat in very Republican Wyoming.

    Even so, these numbers should be troubling for Democrats. Rendell and Strickland are attractive personalities with some penchant for centrist policies. Both were suggested as possible running mates for Barack Obama (both sensibly swatted away those suggestions). Corzine is running in a state that, with a rising immigrant population and an outflow of affluent residents, has been solidly Democratic for a dozen years. Altogether these states have 69 electoral votes, and Obama won all four by comfortable margins last November.

    Democratic governors in other important states also have been getting low marks from voters. North Carolina’s freshly elected Bev Perdue has only 26 percent of voters willing to re-elect her. Colorado’s Bill Ritter, Washington’s Christine Gregoire, Oregon’s Ted Kulongoski, Wisconsin’s Jim Doyle, Massachusetts’ Deval Patrick, and Michigan’s Jennifer Granholm have been getting submajority voter approval most of the year.

    These governors are mostly able and attractive people, and every one of their states voted for Obama. None of them is tarred by scandal or not up to the job, as seems to be the case with the nation’s lowest-rated governors, Nevada Republican Jim Gibbons and New York Democrat David Paterson.

    I take all this as evidence — not conclusive evidence, but significant evidence — for the proposition that economic distress does not predispose voters to favor bigger government. Not all the reasons for these governors’ negative job ratings arise from debates over the size of government, but many do — and voters are clearly not hankering for more government.

    When you put these results together with Obama’s slide in the polls, they suggest trouble for big-government Democrats. Pollster Scott Rasmussen now shows Obama with only 49 percent job approval; when he asked voters which party they’d like to represent them in the House, Republicans came out ahead of Democrats.

    Some analysts will point out that Rasmussen’s results tend to be more negative for Democrats than those of other pollsters. That’s because, as Rasmussen explains, he uses a likely voter formula that tends to assume that first-time voters in November 2008 will not turn out in force in 2009 or 2010.

    That seems to have been the case so far in most 2009 special elections and primaries. In off-year elections without Obama on the ballot, it seems unlikely that young blacks will turn out in larger proportions than young whites, as the Census Bureau reported happening in 2008. Democratic candidates will have to make their own case, and the governors’ job ratings suggest their prospects may be dicey.

  24. New Mexico: he never really left the Trinity Church of Christ, and the rapturous tones of his racist spiritual advisor are part of his magic thinking. We know where he stands. Exculpatory words and speeches from him have no credibility whatsoever.

  25. actually lacks the common sense needed to comment intelligently.
    ***********
    What a huge contrast between the time of Hillary-care and Obama-care. The silence of “Big Med” and the Insurance industry about Obama-care vs the days of continuous bombardment of “Harry and Louise” and “Socialized Medicine” in the early ’90’s…they were scared sh*tless of Hillary….The tens of millions of bribes paid off, the fix was in before the process started….Obama decided to tell the truth when he called the mess going on in Congress “Health Insurance Reform”. The American People, American Business and the American Economy can’t afford “Health Insurance Reform”.

  26. wbboei

    You are right.

    I just took a call from a Dem working for Marty Chavez, he is the Mayor of Albuquerque, and he is running for re-election. HE WAS A HILLARY SUPPORTER UNTIL THE END. The Young man calling also worked for HRC in Iowa, so we had a great conversation. I told him I would alway support and respect Marty because of how he stood up.

  27. Texas GOv. Perry said he is willing to turn down any healthcare single payor because it would be bad for Texas. Here 1 in 4 is without insurance. I don’t know what to think about Rick Perry.

  28. I don’t know what to think about Rick Perry.
    **********
    Perry makes the former Gov. Bush look intelligent and competent.

  29. Obama’s health plan – too good to be true

    Debra J. Saunders
    Sunday, July 26, 2009

    In May, President Obama touted $17 billion in cuts he had planned for a budget of more than $3 trillion. Obama was quite proud of these cuts. Really. He told reporters that while $17 billion in cuts was considered “trivial” inside the beltway, “outside of Washington, that’s still considered a lot of money.”

    So forgive me if I am skeptical when Obama – who called it “painful” to squeeze one half of 1 percent from the gargantuan federal machine – claims, as he did at Wednesday night’s news conference, that two-thirds of his plan to provide universal access to health care for Americans “can be paid for by reallocating money that is simply being wasted in federal health care programs.”

    What shocks me is how smart people actually buy into the notion that the administration can expand health coverage and that it will not – indeed, should not – cost most taxpayers a dime.

    As Kaiser Family Foundation President Drew Altman wrote, “Our polls show that most Americans (60 percent) think that if policymakers made the right moves they could cover the cost of health care reform without spending new money, which is not true.”

    Or try this from David Koitz of the nonpartisan fiscal watchdog group the Concord Coalition: “Standing alone, expanded insurance coverage means expanding access to health care and that will likely increase health spending overall. The efforts in Massachusetts mandating that its citizens have health insurance show that simply expanding the availability of insurance does not contain costs. If anything the evidence from its brief existence suggests the opposite. Over the past year, the state has had to raise taxes and fees to keep the new program afloat, and government and industry officials believe the program will not survive over the next five to 10 years if major actions are not taken to slow the state’s health care spending.”

    Feel free to reread that quote, and you will see the wisdom in Washington taking its time to pass what Obama calls health care “reform.”

    Everything I’ve seen so far suggests that the package is too good to be true.

    ABC’s Jake Tapper said to Obama, “understandably (my italics) – you don’t talk about the sacrifices that Americans might have to make.” He then asked whether the American people would have to give up anything to pay for Obama’s cost-cutting plans.

    Those of you with memories might recall that the 2008 Democratic primary was a nonstop repudiation of George W. Bush’s failure to call for “sacrifice.” Now that a Democrat is in the White House, you can forget that silly notion.

    Sacrifice? Ha.

    Obama’s answer began: “They’re going to have to give up paying for things that don’t make them healthier.” Now that’s leveling with the American people.

    More specifically: “If there’s a blue pill and a red pill, and the blue pill is half the price of the red pill and works just as well, why not pay half for the thing that’s going to make you well?”

    As Obama explained, “The system right now doesn’t incentivize that.”

    Forget for a minute that in Obamaland, HMOs and insurers have no monetary incentive to require generic prescription drugs, which of course work as well as name brands.

    The larger issue is that American voters should feel insulted that their president apparently thinks they are so gullible as to believe that there is a health care free lunch. Also, his administration will know what is better for you than your doctor.

    In an interview with New York Times columnist David Leonhardt published in May, Obama used his blue pill/red pill analogy. Questioned further, however, Obama named an operation that maybe/conceivably his administration would not cover – the hip replacement given to his grandmother after she was diagnosed with cancer.

    Her doctor believed that the 86-year-old Madelyn Dunham only had three to nine months to live, the president said, but that without the operation her quality of life would be terrible. Dunham had the hip replacement and then died within weeks. Obama said he would have paid for the surgery because she was his grandmother, but “whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model is a very difficult question.”

    And: “So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?”

    Obama suggested “a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists.”

    Be it noted Dunham’s doctor thought the surgery was in her best interest, and Dunham apparently agreed. That seems like conversation enough for me. Who needs a panel?

    Obama also said that under his reform, government will stay out of health care decisions. But then how can Washington cut health care costs as promised?

    ObamaCare isn’t an easy-to-fill prescription for the half-price-but-just-as-good blue pill. The real product under the safety cap is snake oil.

    You can e-mail Debra J. Saunders at dsaunders@sfchronicle.com.

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/26/IN3I18SM9O.DTL&type=printable

  30. I think the pollster misses the point. It’s no “big government” v. “small government”. I mean, Bush increased the size of the federal government tenfold. It’s that Democrats are not offering anything appreciably different than Republicans, so the results of the efforts, are not being felt. The stimulus, for instance, could have been much larger, but if it would have been enough to put people back to work, even temporarily, if it included something, anything, voters can look at like a supertrain system, then they would feel it and see an appreciable difference. Health care is a mess. Dem’s are in a quagmire because they are not puching for anything that will let the average joe pay less in insurance costs. If the public plan were substantial as was first proposed, or if they expanded Medicare, then people would feel better about it. but as it stands the proposal is to have everyone buy private insurance with no method for lowering premium costs. Admin, you can not possibly see Obama’s health plan, which the insurers love, as a liberal policy?
    Admin, you can
    not possibly see Obama’s vague

    Admin, you can
    not possibly think what Obama is offering on health care

  31. It looks like the Cowley phone call happened afterall.

    From Michaelk Daly, NY Daily news.Sgt. James Crowley was having a burger and a Blue Moon beer in Tommy Doyle’s Irish Pub when his cell phone rang.

    The Cambridge cop spoke for a moment and hung up looking altogether amazed.

    “His jaw dropped,” recalled Peter Woodman, a co-owner of the Kendall Square pub and two others of the same name. “He said, ‘Jesus Christ, you’ll never guess who’s going to ring me.’”

    Word quickly spread through Friday’s lunchtime crowd that White House press secretary Robert Gibbs had just telephoned Crowley to say President Obama would be calling him.

    “‘No way!’…‘No way!’…‘No way!’” patrons exclaimed.

    A hush swept across the whole place. The TVs and music went off. The clanging in the kitchen ceased.

    Crowley remained at a table by the front window, the cell phone set before him.

    “He got a bit nervous for a minute or two then he got his head, Woodman said. “Cool as a cucumber, just sat there sipping his beer.”

    The pub stayed absolutely silent.

    “You could hear a pin drop,” Woodman said. “Literally 80 to 100 people standing around him. It was surreal.”

    A couple came in from the street and asked for a table.

    “The whole bar [said,] ‘Shhh! Shhh! Shut up and sit down!’” Woodman said.

    After five or maybe six minutes, the phone rang again.

    “He braced himself, took a deep breath,” Woodman recalled.

    After two, perhaps three rings, Crowley answered.

    “Hello, Mr. President.”

    Obama addressed him as Sgt. Crowley.

    “Call me Jimmy,” Crowley said.

    Obama said to call him Barack. They spoke for five minutes or more as the crowd stood transfixed.

    “Not a person breathed,” Woodman said.

    k

  32. “Obama said to call him Barack. They spoke for five minutes or more as the crowd stood transfixed.

    “Not a person breathed,” Woodman said.”

    ————————————-

    That is just disgustingly sickening.

  33. MJ, no one can possibly know what Obama’s health insurance plan is.

    During the “stimulus” fight (which we opposed) and the 2010 budget fight and every fight over every dollar all we have said is that we want to see what the totality of the plan is. We’ve repeatedly quoted Bill Clinton’s great speeches when he put forth all his proposals and Bill showed how each proposal would work in tandem with the other proposals. Ditto FDR. We posted FDR speeches and Bill Clinton speeches to show how both presidents explained the problem and where they saw the solutions and how they could get us there. Other than flowery words which gave no indication as to what the overarching goals were we have no bleeding idea what Obama wants other than adulation and the opportunity to be seen as “bold” and a celebrity. We have a good idea what House Dims want on healthcare and we have some idea what Senate Dims might be considering on healthcare, but Obama – zilch.

    We do know that Obama’s plan is a health insurance plan and has very little to do with health. It’s like financiers who know nothing about cars now running GM.

    Again, no one can possibly know what Obama wants on health care because he has not said. We have a bunch of words and platitudes from Obama but a vision of what he wants – no idea.

    It does appear to us, walking about in the Obama fog of words, that the Obama goal is a further bailout of insurance companies – another AIG bailout in disguise, if you will.

    We have repeatedly demanded “smart” expenditures of the last few dollars the country has left. We thought Obama should have passed a Hillary-style HOLC and a Hillary-style health care package that would have helped businesses with their health care costs and not that 2010 election slush fund he calls the “stimulus”. Some funding for extended unemployment insurance and possibly some tax cuts to get money into the economy to “soften” the economic downturn we would also have supported.

    But we would never support a waste of dollars and massive bailouts of those responsible the financial abuses which have occurred.

    We mourned the death of health care reform when we saw the Grecian columns rise in Denver at that baccanal of Dimocratic idiotcy.

  34. JanH, there is another way to view the phone call – Mohammad had to go to the Mountain. The mountain was Crowley and Obama had to pay homage to Crowley by calling him. Crowley did not apologize and Crowley made it clear he would not apologize and that Obama did not have the facts.

    Obama knew Crowley was going to win this fight and so Obama surrendered. It could not have been easy for Obama to humiliate himself by talking to a “stupid” probably “bitter and clingy” white working class cop.

    The silence in the bar, we doubt was reverential. The bar crowd was bearing witness to the triumph of Crowley and Obama on bended knee. It’s rare that a haughty king is forced off his throne to bow to a peasant he has called “stupid”. Crowley is the one standing.

  35. Akin to wbboei at 5:50
    ===================
    We have a President who regards himself as African-American. He’s received a lifelong, and very generous helping, of Affirmative Action, and yet, he has a trigger finger on the race card. For a decade I, as well as everyone else who worked in a particular East Coast city, was subjected to constant AA harrassment. They would claim otherwise, but their requests for a cigarette, a match, the time were unending. Sometimes it was worse – bumping into whites as they walked, dancing back and forth in front of their vehicles long after the traffic light had turned green. On my last working day in that city, I went out ‘for a smoke’ and found an AA couple, probably in their 50’s. The man asked if I could lend him a cigarette. Since it was my last day I eased up and said sure. At that point, the lady said ‘He’s just aggravating you. He likes to do that. He has cigarettes in his pocket.” What I had suspected was confirmed at that moment.

    I expect what I’ve written will be upsetting to some, but I for one, have been waiting since the 1980’s for someone to acknowledge what whites are quite silently enduring. I’d wondered how these AA’s had come to be so angry, but then I saw Jeremiah Wright and the Trinity UCC, I sadly concluded that I’d found the answer to that question. And now it’s ratcheting up again. When will the reverse discrimination be acknowledged?
    BTW: I am a solid ex-smoker.

  36. I love your interpretation of the phone call, Admin, but do you think Crowley SHOULD go have that ‘beer’ with BoGate?

    (I know you were answering jan but had to butt in, as usual.)

  37. holdthemaccountable.

    great ‘account.’

    I, too, worked with majority AA’s in the East Coast public school system and the lengths some went taking advantage of the ‘system,’ from initiating baseless ‘lawsuits’ against white teachers they claimed had discriminated against or mistreated their kids to gaming the freebies -programs, tutoring, free food, free after-school programs, to demanding one-on-one adult aides for their out-of-control kids – the list is endless – was obscene.

    I was one of those who was ‘accused’ of ‘mistreating’ a 5-year-old kid 18 years into the job and I went BALLISTIC with the UNION demanding they support me and stand up to the bullying cash-hungry parent who, BTW, was egged on by one of those Pillsbury-dough-girlish Americorps volunteers with tons of money in the bank out to play Joan-of_Arc for a year in the urban trenches.

  38. Again, no one can possibly know what Obama wants on health care because he has not said.
    ***********
    He doesn’t care..it’s the form not the substance that he cares about. The signing ceremony, the MSM adulation that Obama “reformed the health care system”, something that Hillary couldn’t do blah..blah.. He wasn’t joking, (if he in fact said it), that if this goes down in flames, his Presidency is finished.

  39. admin Says:

    July 26th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
    JanH, there is another way to view the phone call – Mohammad had to go to the Mountain.

    —————————–

    Yes I agree. My reaction was simply to the fact that so many were “awestruck” that they couldn’t breathe. I guess he really is their messiah and that is what is so sick to me.

  40. JanH, most people have an instinctive respect for the office of the president, even if they don’t love the guy in office.

    If GW Bush has placed a personal phone call to one of my co-workers, the whole office would have gone silent and gotten excited as well. Doesn’t mean we all LIKED Bush.

  41. basil9
    ========
    What you endured is beyond horrendous. I’m saddened to learn that the reverse is worse than I could possibly have imagined.

  42. I had a friend call and tell me that she did not know how I felt about politics, but her son was receiving an award (he came in second on the Pulitzer) to be presented by O.

    I told her that I was proud of her son, and that while I thought O was a Shxt, he represents the office of the Presidency, and her son should be honor, not getting an Award from O, but from someone representing the American people as President.

    That is what I believe those people were honoring in that Bar, the Office, not the Man.

  43. HillaryforTexas,

    I do realize that. I just think having respect is one thing but…lol…oh well, I guess I’m not explaining it properly so just forget I mentioned it.

  44. Just trying to make you feel better, Jan. 🙂 Also, remember that the author’s characterization of that silence was HIS characterization, not holy writ.

  45. JanH

    I think I understand a little of the way you felt, because when I finished that story, I was a little sick about the hero worship scenerio being portrayed.

    However, there are some things to be considered.

    1. Was a bot telling the story.

    2. How many people left the bar, I would have.

  46. “hero worship.” Bingo! NMF, That’s it exactly. For any other president or hero I could understand. For this clown it is just mind-boggling.

    And you’re right. This could be over-the-top exaggeration.

    ————————–

    Thanks HillaryforTexas. Much appreciated. 🙂

  47. I am beginning to see a common theme among many voters all over the left-right spectrum. They are starting to classify politicians not by R or D or ideology, but by “generally on the side of the peeps” vs. “generally on the side of the parasitic pig political class”.

    If you get the former, you can work with them where you disagree. If you get the latter, you are screwed no matter what they say their lofty goals are, whether “conservative” or “liberal”.

  48. I kinda liked the Sarah Palin speech, that woman is going to go raise hell now she no longer has to temper her tongue.

  49. We’ll have to see howit plays out. She was fabulous as usual and appears refreshed and re-energized. However, whenever Hillary has appeared on top of her game, as we saw in the primary, big media or someone from within the DNC and or Obama team (the terms are synonyms to me) puts stuff out there to diminish her star.
    As for the interview, Gregory is a lightweight, but much fairer than the “gotcha” fat guy who is in that Big MSM in the sky. She handled Gregory with ease. As for the Obama praise, as we know, what else can she say? “The guy is incompetent” You should have voted for me”? She is part of the team and has to play the role. I was, however, saddened to hear what seemed genuine feelings that she would not be running for President again./ Very painful and made me realize what an opportunity this nation hasd lost. Hillary is real leadership..Obama is a guy who lacks any real skills other than polorazing people and using race to get ahead…He was bought and ppaif d before by elements that we all know now, butrt had no clue prior to the primaries. The guy cannot do anything without a telepromter and when he is left alone, he fucks upo with comments like the one’s he made against the police officer..an in typical frat boy tradition, wants to smooth it over with a couplre pitchers of beer..this is the leader of the free world!! KMy god what a horrendous mistake we made…

  50. Moononpluto, I can hardly wait for Sarah to calls it the way she sees it. I think the bots are scared of what she will say and so is Bo, Axelass, and the rest of the jerks. I am looking forward to another great woman.

  51. “I was, however, saddened to hear what seemed genuine feelings that she would not be running for President again./ Very painful and made me realize what an opportunity this nation has lost.”

    ——————————–

    For me too.

  52. boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/26/globe_poll_shows_patricks_approval_rating_falling/

    Governor Deval Patrick, fresh off signing a major tax increase and still battling through a historic budget crisis, has seen a huge drop in his standing among Massachusetts voters and faces a tough road to a second term, according to a new Boston Globe poll.

    The survey, taken 16 months before the election, shows that the public has lost faith in Patrick’s ability to handle the state’s fiscal problems or bring reform to Beacon Hill, as he had promised. He is either losing or running neck-and-neck in matchups with prospective rivals, according to the poll, conducted for the Globe by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center.

    Patrick’s favorability rating has dropped sharply over the past seven months, with just 36 percent of respondents holding a favorable opinion of him, and 52 percent viewing him unfavorably. As recently as December, 64 percent of voters viewed him favorably.

    The governor’s job-approval rating, sampled after Patrick scored several major legislative victories but also approved $1 billion in new taxes, is even worse, with just 35 percent of respondents approving and 56 per cent disapproving of his performance. Just as ominously, 61 percent said the state is on the wrong track, compared with 31 percent who said it was headed in the right direction, down from 44 percent in December – numbers reminiscent of voters’ mood before Patrick captured the corner office from Republicans in 2006.

    Even the state Legislature, traditionally held in low esteem by the public, won higher marks when voters were asked whom they trust more to manage the state budget crisis and faltering economy. Forty percent said they put more faith in state lawmakers to handle fiscal issues, compared with 23 percent for Patrick.

    “These numbers indicate that Patrick is in a very difficult position regarding his reelection,’’ said Andrew E. Smith, director of the survey center. “Voters do not think he is up to the task of dealing with the state’s fiscal problems, and he has lost his mantle as a reformer.’’

    …article continues

  53. Little Isis over at TC has a very good, sane piece up about Palin:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/why-it-will-never-end-part-1/

  54. Okay, I finally watched the full hour of Hill’s MTP interview. She was masterful. Oh, and it topped the list of “most viewed” on the site, while I was over there.

  55. She said in that interview that she spends some of her time in those other countries doing town halls, morning shows, etc – reaching out directly to the people, not just the diplomats.

    And from the few clips I’ve seen, they LOVE her.

    I do think that Obama and esp Axelrod were trying to sideline her – not where policy is concerned, but as far as the spotlight goes. In other words, she was supposed to toil away and do the heavy lifting, but keep her mug away from the cameras, which are the sole domain of Teh Precious.

    And I think there was a brief struggle over that, and I think Hill outmanuevered them and said no to that shit. She’s shining again.

  56. I was, however, saddened to hear what seemed genuine feelings that she would not be running for President again./ Very painful and made me realize what an opportunity this nation has lost.”
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    If Hillary has a free hand now in foreign policy which is how I read it then that is fine. But if our domestic situation goes to hell it really doesnt matter much. If I were convinced she will not make another bid then I would rejoin the RNC in a New York minute. That would be the only patriotic thing to do, if as I say she will not run again. Given enough time this joker will sink the country. The 2010 elections will tell the story for me. When the elites selected this joker they entered into a faustian pact with the Chicago Machine. That is like going to bed with a partner with AIDS except there is no such thing as safe sex with that crowd. Just remember who they are and how they operate.

  57. Red State and Politico are detailing plans for the Democrats to spend umpteen million dollars in advertising over the next month against Blue Dog Democrats opposed to the health care bills.

    Needless to say, the Republicans are enjoying this immensely.

  58. hwc, anyone not fawning over Obama and marching to Chicago’s tune is under the bus. Some of those Blue Dogs were Democrats long before Obama ever was. Yet their own party is going to go after them.

    The Dims are drunk on a very tenuous power, and continue to blindly destroy the party, They will eventually reap a whirlwind of resurgent conservatism and a long, long GOP rule – you watch.

  59. I was in the bookstore today returning the Carville book before the 30 days expired. While there I saw a book somebody wrote about howard deans health care plan. To me that fat ass is lower than a snakes belly but it called to mind something I failed to mention about the conversation ofn Friday. I asked him why howard dean has been consigned to oblivion and why did he not receive his 30 pieces of silver. I was told that the guy who stuck a shiv between fat howie’s shoulder blades was Emanuel, and he added insult to injury by announcing his appointment of health and human services without informing Dean and when he was out of pocket and could not be reached for comment. The bad blood was over dean’s insistence of a 50 state stategy vs. Emanuels insistence of a targeted strategy. It is too bad that they couldnt have killed eachother so we could have a viking funeral for two. But there was only one casualty. The second will have to wait for the blogavocich trial.

  60. Red State and Politico are detailing plans for the Democrats to spend umpteen million dollars in advertising over the next month against Blue Dog Democrats opposed to the health care bills.

    Needless to say, the Republicans are enjoying this immensely.
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    I do not know who is stupider–the dims who will advertise AGAINST members of their own party, or the republicans who are enjoying this becaue they think it opens the seat up for republicans. Most of the bluedogs are freshmen, they are opposing the Obama plans because their constituents do not want them, and if the dnc attacks them for it their consitiuents will see them as heroes and re elect them. If they are re elected the republicans do not get the seat and they will have a vendetta agains bambi. Maybe that is what they are enjoying.

  61. The Dims are drunk on a very tenuous power, and continue to blindly destroy the party, They will eventually reap a whirlwind of resurgent conservatism and a long, long GOP rule – you watch.

    —————

    No question. They are opening the door for a Newt Gingrich II shellacking in the mid-terms. One-party rule always breeds arrogance and contempt for the voter. People know exactly where the blame goes. Obama and Pelosi have fillibuster proof supermajorities. They can do anything they want. We need the checks and balances of a two party goverment to protect both parties from themselves!

  62. Hillary cannot come out and say she still wants the WH at present, they would slaughter her for it. She needs to sit back until the right moment to seize, when we all need her to make another bid.

    Otherwise the msm will have a field day on her for undermining the bozo.

  63. Everyone is right, of course, about what HRC can and can’t do as a politician which is why I’m not cut out for the job.

    As Admin suggested Crowley should do rather than meet with BO – drink poison – I would rather commit hari-kari than deal with that crew.

    It’s so slimey, so nasty, so evil and so permeant – I’d be afraid I’d never rid myself of the toxicity.

  64. Goodmorning Basil9, I too know she can’t say anything but to gush for the chosen one. She is quiet a good actress as shown on SNL during campaign. I hope she runs again, she does have testicular fortitude, so maybe if they are not threatening to release some dirt on the Clintons she will try again.

  65. Admin 3:20 a.m. WHEN DO YOU SLEEP!

    Anyway, after sleeping on the question of HRC asked at Meet the Press, I think we have taken the wrong slant here. WHY DID THEY ASK THE QUESTION?

    If this women has been marginalized, if they felt it was a foregone conclusion that O would run for re-election (or if they wanted him to), why would they ask? In addition, they knew that it would result in publicity, so why would they give that exposure to her?

    I wonder what is up?

    Good Morning all.

  66. That question is showing as a lead in two areas on AOL. Remember, the people duirng the campagin, and even before that, if the press did not think they were a part of this cycle, they did not ask them, nor did they pay much attention to them during the campaign, even ignored them during debates.

    Why would the editor have suggested or approve such a question really very early into the next cycle?

  67. Morning confloyd and NMF.

    I confess i don’t know how HRC handles it all. But she looked and sounded great, classy, well-informed, competent, knowledgable, efficient, insightful. . . .

    I’m glad her elbow is healing but was struck by her admission she still has trouble shaking hands.

    Side effects from meds and injuries can drive one nuts but she just soldiers on. SHERO.

  68. BEUHLER? BEUHLER?? ANYONE???

    spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/weve-figured-him-out

    We’ve Figured Him Out
    ================

    By Ben Stein
    7.24.09 @ 9:45AM

    Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?

    Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

    The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

    They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

    They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a “community organizer,” Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

    The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

    Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naïveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

    The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill — a great idea in theory — was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

    Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

    The American people already know that Mr. Obama’s plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be — a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

    These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to “protect us” from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

    Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

    There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.

  69. From above, Ben Stein’s mention of Clinton / Iran indirectly infers Obama’s responsibility. It should place responsibility where it belongs, with “her boss”.

  70. That is another thing that appears to be happening, everytime O fails or they talk about his failure, they immediately bring up Clinton and a HRC failure or a BC failure.

    1. When the health bill was Delayed (I don’t want to do what BC did).

    2. The above article.

    I think they are scared.

  71. Yeah, and if O’bama ever does succeed in one damn thing, they’ll trumpet it endlessly.

    Heck, they’ve even trumpeted his “successes” that eventually turn out to be failures.

    Literally, “he can do no wrong”. When he is wrong, it is “someone else’s fault”. Or, the failure has to be explained why it is in some brilliant / clever way, yet another subtle “victory”.

  72. Coupla comments made to Ben Stein’s piece:

    Larry| 7.24.09 @ 10:25AM
    Nice essay, Ben. As a Jew I continue to be amazed and disappointed in American Jewry’s 80% support for Obama. Truly, Reform Jews are educated far beyond their ability to understand.

    Sheryl| 7.24.09 @ 10:38AM
    Have you stopped smiling yet, Ben? (I recall your saying, amazingly, on CBS Sunday Morning that you “couldn’t stop smiling” as you watched our new Prez on TV.) So, just wondering…

  73. Clinton opens high-level talks with Chinese

    By MARTIN CRUTSINGER (AP) – 1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has opened talks with high-level Chinese officials, hailing an opportunity for better relations and saying the two countries share common interests and mutual threats. Kicking off a new dialogue with Beijing, Clinton said that the two “are laying brick by brick the foundation of a stronger relationship.”

    She said it was time to move from “a multipolar world to a multipartner world.”

    The talks will include discussions of the global economic slide, climate change and commercial relationships. Clinton said the two “will not always see eye to eye.” Both sides are emphasizing the importance of the meetings.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Two days of high-level talks between the United States and China are expected to expose sharp differences on trade and soaring U.S. budget deficits, but the discussion could be more amicable in the area of foreign policy.

    The Obama administration is going out of its way to praise Beijing for the help it has already provided on pressuring North Korea to abandon its nuclear program.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will lead the U.S. delegation, praised China on Sunday for being “positive and productive” in dealing with North Korea. “We’ve been extremely gratified by their forward-leaning commitment to sanctions and the private messages that they have conveyed to the North Koreans,” Clinton said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

    Clinton’s remarks came ahead of discussions Monday and Tuesday in Washington that continue a dialogue started by the Bush administration in 2006 to bridge differences between the two economic superpowers.

    Both sides are emphasizing the importance of the meetings. The Chinese are bringing 150 diplomats — one of the largest delegations it has ever assembled for discussions in Washington — and the administration will start the discussions with remarks Monday by President Barack Obama.

    With the global economy mired in recession, the United States and China have enormous stakes in resolving tensions in such areas as America’s huge trade deficit with China and the Chinese government’s unease over America’s soaring budget deficits.

    Other issues such as climate control will also be on the agenda. Both countries are the largest producers of the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

    Three years ago, then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson used the initial U.S.-China talks to press Beijing to let its currency, the yuan, rise in value against the dollar to make it cheaper for Chinese to buy U.S. goods. U.S. manufacturers blame an undervalued yuan for record U.S. trade deficits with China — and, in part, for a decline in U.S. jobs.

    The U.S. efforts have yielded mixed results. The yuan, after rising in value about 22 percent since 2005, has scarcely budged in the past year. Beijing had begun to fear that a stronger yuan could threaten its exports. Chinese exports already were under pressure from the global recession.

    But the Obama administration intends to remain focused on the trade gap, telling Beijing that it can’t rely on U.S. consumers to pull the global economy out of recession this time. In part, that’s because U.S. household savings rates are rising, shrinking consumer spending in this country.

    For the United States, suffering from a 9.5 percent unemployment rate, the ultimate goal is to help put more Americans to work.

    While the U.S. trade deficit with China has narrowed slightly this year, it is still the largest imbalance with any country. Critics in Congress say unless China does much more in the currency area, they will seek to pass legislation to impose economic sanctions on China, a move that could spark a trade war between the two nations.

    Geithner and Clinton will be joined by their Chinese counterparts, Vice Premier Wang Qishan and State Councilor Dai Bingguo.

    For their part, Chinese officials are making clear they want further explanations of what the administration plans to do about the soaring U.S. budget deficits. China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury debt — $801.5 billion — wants to know that those holdings are safe and won’t be jeopardized in case of future inflation.

    “The Chinese delegation, especially Vice Premier Wang, will make the request that the U.S. side should adopt responsible policies to ensure the basic stability of the exchange rate of the U.S. dollar and protect the safety of Chinese assets in the United States,” Zhu Guangyao, an assistant Chinese finance minister, told reporters in Beijing last week.

    The Chinese are likely to hear a repeat of the assurances Geithner gave them when he visited China last month. He said then that the administration is committed to cutting the U.S. budget deficit — expected to hit $1.84 trillion this year — in half once the emergency spending to ease the recession and the financial crisis are no longer needed.

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRPrTcTsoEOwz1g2CxeBsnWlBirwD99MQEQO0

  74. North Korea Hints It’s Open to New Nuclear Talks With U.S.

    By Tony Capaccio and Patrick Harrington

    July 27 (Bloomberg) — North Korea said it may be open to new negotiations on its nuclear program if it takes place outside of six-party talks involving the U.S., China, Russia, South Korea and Japan.

    “There are other means of dialogue to resolve the current situation,” North Korea’s foreign ministry said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency today. “There is a specific and reserved form of dialogue that can address the current situation,” the ministry said separately.

    The statements follow U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s call yesterday for the communist state to return to the negotiating table. North Korea has previously pressed for direct talks with the U.S. after vowing in April to never again participate in the six-party framework.

    The reclusive communist state should realize it’s “very isolated” and won’t be “rewarded for half-measures” toward ending its nuclear-weapons program, Clinton said yesterday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” program.

    Clinton said this past week that the U.S. is ready to resume talks with North Korea with a “more ambitious agenda” as long as the North understands that it won’t be given new rewards for fulfilling existing obligations on dismantling its nuclear-arms program.

    The U.S. China, Russia, South Korea and Japan have said “it’s not going to work this time,” Clinton said. “We’re imposing the most stringent sanctions we ever have,” working closely with China “to enforce these sanctions.”

    Kim’s Condition

    Kim Jong Il’s regime, which tested its second nuclear device May 25, said last month it will continue its nuclear weapons program, including weaponizing plutonium stockpiles and developing a highly enriched uranium program.

    Kim suffered a stroke in August last year according to U.S. and South Korean intelligence officials. He appeared at North Korea’s Supreme People’s Assembly in April limping slightly and looking gaunt and aged. He is grooming his third and youngest son Kim Jong Un as heir, Japanese and South Korean media have reported. The elder Kim is close to transferring power to Jong Un, a South Korean government official has said.

    Clinton said the U.S. has been “extremely gratified” by China’s “forward-leading commitment to sanctions” of North Korea.

    North Korean Behavior

    “The big issue in previous times was, how do we get China to really be working to change North Korean behavior,” she said. Clinton and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will meet in Washington this week with Chinese officials including Vice Premier Wang Qishan for two days of talks about economic and foreign policy issues including North Korea. It’s not too late to pressure for a change in North Korea’s nuclear program because it is “still at the beginning stages,” she said.

    Clinton illustrated her point about North Korea’s isolation by noting that even allies such as Myanmar have said they would enforce United Nations resolutions on sanctions. She also recounted a meeting last week of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations attended by a North Korean representative.

    “I was in the same room” as the official “who launched a broadside against the United States,” she said. “I listened. Everyone else just didn’t even look at him. I was struck by the body language. They don’t have any friends left.”

    Responding ‘Calmly’

    After the North Korean presentation Clinton said she “very calmly” responded “North Korea knows what it must do and what we are expecting from it.” Asked if North Korea’s missile program poses a threat to the U.S., Clinton said it’s “unlikely” at this time. Still, the program is “destabilizing for Northeast Asia,” Clinton said. The missiles “are a threat to our allies, particularly Japan and South Korea so therefore, they trigger a response from us to protect the allies.”

    Clinton also addressed the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran on NBC, saying the Islamic republic does “not have the right to obtain a nuclear weapon.” “What we want to do is to send a message to whoever is making these decisions, that if you’re pursuing nuclear weapons for the purpose of intimidating, of projecting your power, we’re not going to let that happen,” Clinton said. “Your pursuit is futile.”

    Clinton declined to elaborate on her remarks last week about a regional Middle East defense umbrella to counter Iran. “That would come later, if at all,” she said. “You hope for the best and plan for the worst.”

    bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5V_jY6JH5Co

  75. This is where I get disgusted with some people here:

    rgb44hrc Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    BEUHLER? BEUHLER?? ANYONE???

    spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/weve-figured-him-out

    Um, some of you seem to think Obama, by forcing everyone to buy private insurance, is “socializing medicine”. He is not. Further, some of you seem to be willfully ignorant to the fact that we are the only industrialized nation with a for-profit third party payment system that costs twice as much as everywhere else with worse health outcomes. Also, you seem to believe Hillary Clinton would not be charged with trying to do exactly what Stein inaccurately accuses Obama of doing. If Obama signs a law that gives everyone Medicare for craddle to grave(he won’t), I’d be quite happy to see him to do so. I don’t dislike Obama so much, that I am willing to give up the principles that made me support Hillary, like health care is a human right, and we all deserve affordable care. Now Congress, so far, has not pushed any plans that meet those objectives, but to agree with Stein that he’s trying to pass scary, “socialized” medicine strikes me as absurd.

  76. Ben Stein is an uneducated idiot…like so many of his fellow comedians. Either that or he is without a moral bone in his body, twists the news until it is no longer recognizable as the truth, and gets doggy bones from bambi when he succeeds.

  77. Admin wrote:
    Only now are fools and cheerleaders like Ezra Klein realizing that what Hillary and Bill tried to do was courageous and darn smart. BTW, Klein is still pushing the idea that the Obama health insurance schemes will pass because politically it will help the Dimocrats (we disagree with Klein on that too). Klein is only now beginning to understand, or at least publish, that the Clinton plan was the right way to go because we suspect that for all the brave words Klein is beginning to think that the Obama “plan” is going to fail.

    Thank you, Admin, for once again for helping me to avoid being sucked into the spin. On the surface the Klein article seemed reasonable and almost managed to convince me that perhaps there was some substance or strategy behind the debacle that we are seeing being played out with Obamacare.

  78. mj wrote:
    Um, some of you seem to think Obama, by forcing everyone to buy private insurance, is “socializing medicine”. He is not. Further, some of you seem to be willfully ignorant to the fact that we are the only industrialized nation with a for-profit third party payment system that costs twice as much as everywhere else with worse health outcomes. Also, you seem to believe Hillary Clinton would not be charged with trying to do exactly what Stein inaccurately accuses Obama of doing. If Obama signs a law that gives everyone Medicare for craddle to grave(he won’t), I’d be quite happy to see him to do so. I don’t dislike Obama so much, that I am willing to give up the principles that made me support Hillary, like health care is a human right, and we all deserve affordable care. Now Congress, so far, has not pushed any plans that meet those objectives, but to agree with Stein that he’s trying to pass scary, “socialized” medicine strikes me as absurd.

    I won’t comment on anything that Stein says mostly because I’m not interested in what he thinks. I am interested in your perspective because I recently received a plea from my union to support Obamacare but I am of the opinion that this is not a good idea because I am under the impression that the strongest voice at the table in this Congress comes from the insurance industry. I have zero confidence that there is anybody currently in power in Washington whose primary goal is to make healthcare more affordable for me. Moreover, I’m convinced that anything the Insurance lobby gets into the fine print of the eventual bill will ultimately be worse for me than what I manage (barely) to afford now. If that means that my support of the resistance coming from the Blue Dogs is absurd, then so be it.

    The difference between supporting Hillary’s Healthcare proposals and supporting anything that Barry tries to push through, is that for better or for worse, I believe that Hillary was/is interested in delivering a policy that works for the people of the country. I want Barry to fail, not because I’ve abandoned a primary principle but because I don’t believe that Barry is embracing that priniciple, even to promote his own interests, I believe that he has different principles and will ultimately do more damage that will be harder to undo should the nation recover from this doomed presidency.

  79. Agree with you about the current set of “reforms”, and that is why I don’t support them. however, I wouldn’t care if Jeb Bush were in the oval office, if Congress passed an improved Medicare for All, and he signed it into law, I would support it.

  80. To all the returning posting, thanks for continuing to read, and now posting again. Even if we disagree here, we at least discuss it. I trust more what I read here, as it is pulled in from all over, to include international.

  81. As admin has been saying all along, the CHICAGO WAY has COME TO TOWN:

    The L goes to Washington: White House becomes 51st Ward
    BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist

    I’ve wisecracked that there are so many Chicagoans in the Obama administration, it’s like covering the 51st Ward. Obama has swept into office with him dozens of Chicagoans, in all kinds of jobs.

    The late, great Chicago political scientist Milton Rakove titled one of his books We Don’t Want Nobody Nobody Sent, and that’s what I see so far: concentric circles of interlocking social, personal and political relationships that go back years. The University of Chicago is one focal point; City Hall is another.

    suntimes.com/news/sweet/1684568,CST-NWS-sweet26.article
    Reply

  82. This is right:

    But if Clinton’s team of enlightened wonks could glimpse managed care over the horizon, the public wasn’t as farsighted. Bill and Hillary weren’t seen as meeting and taming the managed-care revolution. The act of writing legislation that included managed care made it seem as if they were proposing it.

  83. h t t p://webmail.aol.com/43792/aol/en-us/Suite.aspx

    The women who called in the observation at the Gates house, saw the men only from the back and DID NOT SAY THEY WERE BLACK.

    At the bottom of the article, in which we are told that Gates wants to move on it states what I have copied below.
    ————————

    The president invited the officer and the professor to the White House for a beer. He conceded his words had been ill-chosen, but he stopped short of a public apology.
    ————————–
    Again, he apologizes for AMERICAN all over the globe (of course he was not wrong there), but he cannot MAKE A PUBLIC APOLOGY TO AN AMERICAN WHEN HE IS WRONG.

    What country was he elected President of anyway!

  84. U.S. China Relations Will Shape the 21st Centur–The Great Obama
    ——————————————-
    He has a remarkable ability to state the obvious sans the details.

    Which is why Hillary is going over there rather than him.

    Much easier to hang out at home where big media bows and scrapes.

    Than to go to places like Russia and China where they know a fraud when they see one and will not shake his hand.

    Obama needs to do a Batman Movie. That is about his speed.

  85. Today’s Foreign Policy Magazine email begins with this headline: Obamans in the Mideast

    Top story: U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates met with his Israeli counterpart Ehud Barak today as part of an effort to jumpstart Mideast peace talks.

    snip

    U.S. envoy George Mitchell is in the region also. Yesterday, he met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to urge Syrian participation in Mideast peace talks. After a quick side trip to Egypt on Sunday night for a meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Mitchell is meeting with Israeli officials today….
    ============
    Obamans?

  86. Ben Stein is an uneducated idiot…like so many of his fellow comedians. Either that or he is without a moral bone in his body, twists the news until it is no longer recognizable as the truth, and gets doggy bones from bambi when he succeeds
    ——————————-
    Ben is stretching the truth for partisan reasons. He was a Nixon speechwriter in another life. Ford too. And he was a law professor at Pepperdine which is a right wing institution, endowed by a Clinton hater and if memory serves Ken Starr is or was the Dean.

  87. Start the Popcorn!

    I Can’t WAIT to hear this!

    From the Boston Globe Staff

    Cambridge city officials today released tapes of the 911 call and police radio transmissions in the encounter between Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge Police Sergeant James M. Crowley.

    City Manager Robert Healy announced in a noon news conference that a CD of the tapes would be released immediately afterwards.

    Asked what the tapes show, Police Commissioner Robert Haas, who also spoke, said, “I think the tapes speak for themselves and I would ask you to form your own opinion.”

  88. wbb-

    The Carville book you returned to the book store. Was it the ‘4o more years’ book? If it was, what did you think of his thesis?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Basil9, I guess, the city is taking a conservative approach to the Gates/Crowley debacle by releasing the tapes. They seem to be hoping an apology is forthcoming from Obama. Nice move.

    Do you know, when and where the tapes will be available for auditing?

  89. mj, this is just a BAD plan.

    I am actually concerned about the cost of all this. NOT because I don’t want to pay for UHC (I do), but because I don’t see a damn thing here that prevents even MORE money being routed into insurance company profits, except this time the govt is going to aid and abet and force it.

    As long as that profit dynamic is not curbed, this thing is going WAY over budget over time, bank on it. We can afford to cover everyone, but we CANNOT afford to do it in this manner. Not without looking at restraining the profits of Big Insurance, which Hillary actually had the balls to talk about doing.

    But, pshaw. Everyone knows that as Obama said, we can make this puppy a cost-saver by cracking down HARD on all that nefarious TONSIL THEFT that is so rampant in the medical community.

  90. Agreed completely, HillaryforTexas. But the people with the loudest megaphones are not right about this. it’s not “socialized medicine”. If anything it’s fascist medicine. We need social insurance and we would spend a lot less percent of GDP on health care if we had it.

  91. My understanding of HillaryCare was she intended on having the Insurance Cos bid against each other for the government contract. Lowest bid would get the government’s business.

  92. Yes, Mrs.Smith. She basically intended to squeeze the profit out of for-profit insurance, which would lead to a quasi-state/private system, where the insurers are the paper pushers and not much more. This is how the French system operates, and basically how Medicare operates. In other words, medicare doesn’t actually have employees processing the paperwork, they just pay the bills.

  93. Mrs. Smith, I also heard her talk about caps on how much profit they were allowed to take off the top – much like the interest rate caps she talked about for bank credit cards.

    The problem with healthcare is that even if 90% of a plan is similar to Hillary’s, if you leave key provisions out it turns into something else altogether.

  94. “The problem with healthcare is that even if 90% of a plan is similar to Hillary’s, if you leave key provisions out it turns into something else altogether.”

    Hit the nail on the head there!

  95. # JanH Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    The longer obama waits to apologize the worse he looks.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    JanH- Just saw the latest on my local-local news. Axelrod speaking for Obama saying Crowley and Gates were both wrong.

    Obama’s direct quote: “They both OVERREACTED!” Crowley has to take a stand on this and not give-in. He’s got them in the wrong… keep them there.

  96. mj, it’s pretty obvious to anyone with common sense. But not to congress, because, um, ……….. Idunno.

    Logic makes the Baby Jesus cry, or something.

  97. H4T:

    “The problem with healthcare is that even if 90% of a plan is similar to Hillary’s, if you leave key provisions out it turns into something else altogether.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, and likewise if you add TOO many provisions for the insured, their employers and include insuring 37million illegals … forget it, the plan is going nowhere.

  98. ‘Impeach Obama’ bumper stickers spark a shopping mall protest

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — While protesters rallied in his support, the owner of a Concord Mills kiosk that sells conservative merchandise said he met with the mall’s manager Sunday to see what arrangements can be made for him to remain after his lease expires Friday.

    Nothing was agreed to, except that the two would meet again Monday, said Loren Spivack, owner of Free Market Warrior.

    Spivack has contended that he’s being kicked out of the mall for political reasons. He’s traced his exile to a letter to the editor in the Charlotte Observer criticizing his business, saying it promotes “ideas such as racism, sexism and even slavery.”

    He said he was at work again Sunday when he got a call from mall manager Ray Soporowski inviting to talk in his office.

    “It was a pleasant, amicable conversation, but we didn’t come to any resolution about whether our business would be able to stay in the mall,” Spivack said. “He wanted to include some of his company’s senior management and we agreed to talk again Monday.”

    Mall officials have repeatedly declined to comment. Reached Sunday, Soporowski continued that policy. “With all due respect, that conversation is between Loren and myself,” he said.

    Sunday, about 100 people rallied in front of the mall to support Spivack and his right to free speech.

    He opened his Free Market Warrior kiosk last spring, selling such items as “Impeach Obama” bumper stickers and baby bibs that say, “My parents chose life. Thanks Mom and Dad!”

    Spivack said he’s found other stores in the mall selling T shirts and other merchandise with offensive slogans and feels he’s being targeted “purely for politic reasons.”

    Since the controversy arose, he said his business has picked up.

    Read the full story at charlotteobserver.com

  99. Mrs. Smith, I have a BIG problem with insuring illegals, especially when we are already doing NOTHING to prevent that influx, or to get the current illegals into citizenship and ONTO THE TAX ROLLS. What do you think is going to happen if any adult who comes here can get free full healthcare?

    I’m not a hater, and I’m not a “ship ’em all to the border” lunatic, which really isn’t practical or feasible. My own brother-in-law was a border-jumper at 13 years old, who worked his ass off at menial jobs and got a green card as soon as he could, and later became a VERY proud US citizen. He has never taken a dime in help from the govt, and has put his kids through college.

    But we need to solve this problem.

  100. HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Mrs. Smith, I have a BIG problem with insuring illegals

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I agree, 100% H4T… Even moreso at Obama for proposing it.

    Texas also has a balanced budget which is almost an anomaly in these hard economic times even though they are right on the border. I have family there, so I try keeping up.

  101. I think health care is a human right and I wouldn’t personally exclude anyone, but don’t worry this bill excludes them. This has been a big problem in MA where they shut off funding to free care for the poor, since undocumented’s can’t get any of the health insurance offered.

    I know a person whose baby dies of a simple flu because they were afraid to go to the hospital for care since they are undocumented. That’s not right, IMO.

    Contrary to popular belief many “illegals” pay SS insurance and taxes because they work for big companies like Target that take it right out of their checks, but they will never have any access to the services provided through their tax dollars because they are undocumented.

  102. Mrs. Smith,

    here’s a link to almost 2 minutes of the sadio.

    WARNING!!!!!

    This is frigging BORING! (and very routine).

    www dot breitbart dot tv/cambridge-officerdispatch-audio-he-is-not-cooperative/

  103. Axelrod speaking for Obama saying Crowley and Gates were both wrong.

    Obama’s direct quote: “They both OVERREACTED!” Crowley has to take a stand on this and not give-in. He’s got them in the wrong… keep them there

    ————————-

    Mrs. Smith,

    I’m not surprised that obama needs his handlers to clean up another mess. Interesting that he didn’t include himself as overreacting. I don’t see this going away. And I think Crowley is smarter than the dims think.

  104. Newsmax has an article saying “Illegals Will Be Insured”

    newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_illegals_healthcare/2009/07/23/239369.html

    The words “should not” insure are not synonymous with the words “will not” insure. The bill for insuring illegals has already been passed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “In any case, the healthcare reform legislation backed by Democrats specifically does not bar illegals from receiving healthcare.

    On July 17, Democrats successfully defeated a Republican-backed amendment, offered by Rep. Dean Heller of Nevada, that would have prevented illegal aliens from receiving government-subsidized healthcare under the proposed plan backed by House Democrats and President Obama.

    The House Ways and Means Committee nixed the Heller amendment by a 26-to-15 vote along straight party lines.

    A significant portion of the more than 45 million uninsured people in the U.S. are illegal aliens.

  105. mj, we need comprehensive immigration reform, period. I know that many illegals pay taxes, but many don’t. I live in South TX, so I am well aware. I also know that some get work using stolen SS#’s and minimal withholding, which then causes a big problem for the real owner of that SS# when the govt comes after THEM for unpaid taxes owed. Try proving to the IRS that it wasn’t YOU working at Target for the past year, when they are trying to freeze your bank account and seize your house. The IRS is known for being so very understanding, after all.

    And emergency room care (which they already get) is not the same as giving them full access to a complete health plan paid for by MY tax dollars.

    I’ve already said that I want a way for those hard-working, tax paying illegals to GET their citizenship. But if you don’t think healthcare-for-all is going to EXPLODE the numbers coming over the border illegally, you’re dreaming.

    Let them come, absolutely. But we as a country have every moral right to manage and control that flow, decide how many and how often, and get them documented as they come in.

    You are a compassionate person, and that’s wonderful. And I’m sure you choose to help people, often. But does your compassion extend to saying it would be okay for anyone who “has need” to walk into your home, sleep in your bed, and raid your refrigerator without bothering to ask your permission? I seriously doubt it would. And it wouldn’t really matter if they pointed out that they had mopped the floor and fed the cat.

  106. Well, first, the number of “illegals” has gone way down since the economy tanked, especially from south of the border. But having no access to safety net care, including emergency rooms, as is supposed to be the case in MA, is a threat to the health of the rest of us. Let’s say swine flu breaks out in a community of illegals. They are not permitted to get care. What risk is that to the rest of us?

  107. Maybe this will be BO’s “Tawana Brawley’ moment?
    It took Sharpton decades to shed that stigma although he finally did.

    I don’t usually post long articles but I think this, by breitbart, is spot on.

    Less than a month after being confirmed as the nation’s attorney General, Eric H. Holder Jr. called out the American people as “essentially a nation of cowards” for refusing to talk openly about race.

    So, thank you, professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and President Obama, for starting the long-awaited national discussion on black and white identity – while averting our attention from the cockamamie scheme to nationalize health care.

    And kudos to the professor and the president for choosing Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge Police Department as the representative of the Caucasian-American side of this difficult and much-needed historic debate.

    Poetry was at work as the archetypal racist white cop who, according to the admittedly fact-challenged president, “stupidly” arrested his “friend.” Sgt. Crowley waged a swift and effective public relations campaign that quashed the racism meme that Mr. Gates was recklessly pushing.

    Sgt. Crowley, as it happens, is the Cambridge police force’s hand-picked racial profiling expert and was selected by a former black police commissioner. He also performed CPR on black basketball star Reggie Lewis, whose widow praised the public servant for doing everything he could to save her husband. Sgt. Crowley’s own police department immediately jumped to his defense in a picture-perfect multiracial photo op and press conference.

    Even though Mr. Gates and Sgt. Crowley are poised to put their individual grievances to rest – over a beer negotiated by the president of the United States – the scope of the problem that brought them international attention lingers, underscoring the need for continued robust public dialogue.

    We’re finally talking, Mr. Holder and Mr. Obama. Why stop now?

    Of course, the attorney general is essentially right in his assessment. Much of America is petrified to bring up race, especially in public forums – the media, in particular. But for exactly the opposite reasons Mr. Holder, the Obama administration and the brain trust of modern liberalism assert.

    Americans, especially nonblacks, are deeply fearful that the dynamic is predicated on an un-American premise: presumed guilt. Innocence, under the extra-constitutional reign of political correctness, liberalism’s brand of soft Shariah law, must be proved ex post facto.

    Think not? Ask the Duke lacrosse team, which had 88 of the school’s professors sign a petition that presumed their guilt before their side of the story was known. Even though the white athletes were exonerated and the liberal district attorney who pushed the case was dethroned, disbarred and disgraced, the professoriate that assigned guilt to its own students still refuses to apologize.

    Those signatories constituted 90 percent of Duke’s African and African-American Studies Department, the subject-matter domain of Mr. Gates, Michael Eric Dyson, Cornel West and other tenure-wielding, highfalutin, iambic-pentameter-filibustering race baiters, and 60 percent of Duke’s women’s studies department, another hotbed of victimology posing as intellectualism.

    While the media was front and center in preparing for the public executions of the three Duke lacrosse players, they scurried away when they were proved innocent. The Democratic Media Complex, in its pursuit of Orwellian hate-crime legislation, reparations and sundry non-ameliorative resolutions to America’s troubled racial past, pursues its victims with blood lust. But it cannot act in good faith to redeem those it has destroyed in countless rushes to judgment. (Richard Jewell, R.I.P.)

    The mainstream media choose to flaunt story lines that make white America appear guilty of continued institutional racism, while black racism against whites is ignored as an acceptable disposition given our nation’s history. This double standard provides a game board on which the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton can thrive in perpetuity and ensures racial progress is slowed.

    And that is why the Case of Sergeant Crowley vs. Professor Gates is so important. As is expected from professional race baiters, Mr. Gates instigated a public brouhaha over race. And Mr. Obama, a man who attended the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s racist sermons for 20 years, used the bully pulpit to grant his friend a national platform to condemn a man for doing his job.

    Sgt. Crowley, a proud and defiant public professional, played the moment perfectly and stopped his own assassination by media. Talk about a postmodern hero. Whether he likes it or not, Sgt. Crowley is a potent symbol of how the union has managed to become more perfect, a Rosa Parks of rush-to-judgment “reverse racism.”

    Now that the facts of the case show that his friend the professor was the man doing the racial profiling, the president wants to end the discussion.

    Now we see what the attorney general meant when he spoke of cowards.

    • Andrew Breitbart is publisher of the news portals Breitbart.com and Breitbart.tv. His latest endeavor, Big Hollywood (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com), is a group blog on Hollywood and politics from the center-right perspective.

  108. mj, I said nothing about denying them emergency care. A flu outbreak would fit that description.

  109. This has been a big problem in MA where they shut off funding to free care for the poor,
    ***********
    MA just shut off Mass-care for 30,000 legal immigrants (with green cards). The “Health Insurance Reform” that resulted in “Mass-care” is the indicator of what will happen if the proposed US “health Insurance Reform” becomes law. The bottom line is that “no way, now how” can the majority of Americans receive health care, keep costs under control and have it run by the Insurance Industry. The people who are hurt most by the current system, moderate income working people with employer based insurance, are going to worse off with Obama-care. Obama didn’t mention waivers by accident. There will be a large number of families and individuals who wont get subsidies, who can’t afford 14% of their pre-tax income and who will be bankrupt with the “fines” who will get a waiver and be un-insured.

  110. Thanks, basil9 for posting the link!

    I haven’t heard the audio just yet, but if it’s “friggen boring”, then they haven’t released the entire recording of the confrontation.

    As I remember it, when Gates started the racebaiting, yelling at Crowley; Crowley made sure the conversation was streaming directly into an open mic linked directly to the station.

    Theres got to be more.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    H4T:

    “And I think Crowley is smarter than the dims think.”

    Yes, I agree. Crowley is locked and loaded.

  111. Let’s say swine flu breaks out in a community of illegals. They are not permitted to get care. What risk is that to the rest of us?
    *********
    If a person looks a medical care for immigrants purely as self-interest than diseases such as TB are a much bigger problem. It a very big problem with immigrants both documented and undocumented and is easily spread in the general population.

  112. mj Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
    This is where I get disgusted with some people here:

    rgb44hrc Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    BEUHLER? BEUHLER?? ANYONE???

    spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/weve-figured-him-out

    Um, some of you seem to think Obama, by forcing everyone to buy private insurance, is “socializing medicine”. He is not. Further, some of you seem to be willfully ignorant to the fact that we are the only industrialized nation with a for-profit third party payment system that costs twice as much as everywhere else with worse health outcomes. Also, you seem to believe Hillary Clinton would not be charged with trying to do exactly what Stein inaccurately accuses Obama of doing. If Obama signs a law that gives everyone Medicare for craddle to grave(he won’t), I’d be quite happy to see him to do so. I don’t dislike Obama so much, that I am willing to give up the principles that made me support Hillary, like health care is a human right, and we all deserve affordable care. Now Congress, so far, has not pushed any plans that meet those objectives, but to agree with Stein that he’s trying to pass scary, “socialized” medicine strikes me as absurd.
    &&&&&&&&

    I don’t know why you need to “get disgusted by some people here”…

    Just because I post some article here doesn’t mean I endorse the whole thing. Excuse me for not carefully snipping out all the untiday parts.

    Stein’s piece has some extremely valid criticisms of Obama, especially worth hearing from someone who supposedly “couldn’t stop smiling” when Obama was elected.

    Yeah, he’s a big pro-business type guy, and I agree with you that attempts to reform health care, or anything, will be portrayed in some negative light with disparaging name-calling attached.

    AND NO, I am not WILLFULLY IGNORANT about our health care costs, etc. We here are pretty damn educated about these issues.

    Maybe you are willfully ignorant that Obama actually is trying to do any good. He only cares about appearances, he is not willing to stick his neck out the way Hillary would (will), nor is he willing to immerse himself in the details. Yes, we know her position would come under attack, but at least she’d be willing to fight it out. To witness, there is extremely little legistlative direction coming from the White House.

    You may *hope* for O’bama to succeed. I have looked at his track record, and the odds are long on him coming through.

    My hope is that when Obama fails, the safety net (Congress) contains the damage. Just like we had to endure for eight years under Bush.

    Then the Dems can consider if they want to risk renominating an imposter.

  113. My understanding of the nuts and bolt of health care industry, the insurance industry, big-pharmaceuticals, etc., is admittedly limited which is why I rarely comment on the details of current legislation.

    I am, however, an EXPERT in accessing the system and that is largely what I base my opposition to the BO proposals on.

    I know the horrors I went through to get coverage for my condition even after decades paying into the system and working at ‘reduced wages’ as a teacher coz I wanted the healthcare.

    I supposedly had one of the best insurance plans available; union negotiated, employee and state subsidized, along with an extra disability insurance policy which cost thousands every year.

    I never expected to NEED any of it.

    When the sh!t hit the fan for me, I had to use every bit of strength and determination to get what I was entitled to, what I had worked for, what I had paid for.

    If I had so many problems, with what was supposedly an excellent plan, what’s going to happen when millions more are shoveled into a system that won’t proportionately increase the number of caregivers and doctors?

    I heard an MD today tearing the BO plan apart, especially the portion specifying that those over 65 will have to have a ‘quality-of-life’ type (AKA is-it-time-to-pull the-plug) conversation with their doctor every five years.

    Sounds awfully like rationing and selective care to me. Sacrifice those over a certain age for others now deemed more valuable by this corrupt, fraudulent, self-serving, fascist administration..

    I say Bu!!$h!t!

    And Why should those of us who have paid into the system now fork over our benefits and sacrifice them on the alter of so-called ‘universal-care’ which is basically another type of rationing?

    NO WAY!

  114. Mrs. Smith,

    Here’s another audio of the tape. This one IS interesting as it features the full track of the CALLER.
    She sounds awfully calm to me . . . .
    What does everyone think?

    www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=zCQGHqwoaws&eurl

    (insert the ususal http’s colon slashslash)

  115. rgb44hrc Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    HOW MANY TIMES CAN I SAY I DON’T SUPPORT OBAMA-CARE? But I do think when you post something like that any sane person 9is going to agree you think this is some step toward government administered health which it clearly is not. And, again, like I said, I don’t care if Dick Cheney is President, fi Congress were to pass Medicare for All, I would cheer him on. My point is the criticism of Obama-Care from the Right is almost completely unwarranted, and when you promote such utter bs you diminish our chances to ever have a normal health payer system in this country. There is more than enough valid criticism of health care on the Left to avoid advancing crap from the Right. Sorry, this issue matters to me. I am self-employed and am both ineligible for subsidized care and unable to afford private care, and that is with the MA reforms these bozo’s are about to take national. i don’t have the luxury to laugh about how Obama looks like a socialist.

  116. Hey, I’m rationing my health care right now so you don’t have to. It’s called being completely locked out of the system.

  117. From NQ,

    More on the tapes.

    Comment by mountainaires | 2009-07-27 14:21:09

    www dot cbsnews dot com/stories/2009/07/27/national/main5191074.shtml?tag=breakingnews

    You can listen to the police dispatcher tapes. On that tape the dispatcher clearly states that the race is not known, thus Sgt Crowley DID NOT KNOW GATES WAS BLACK when he went to the address on Ware Street on the report of a burglary in progress. Sgt Crowley was blindsided by Gates’ verbal assault on him, since he didn’t even know the race of anyone involved when he arrived at the home.

    Now, how can a “racial profiling” charge be leveled against an officer who DID NOT KNOW THE RACE!

    What this proves is that Gate’s initial and continued verbal assault against Sgt Crowley about racism were in fact only Gates’ racism against Crowley!

  118. mj,

    ‘I am self-employed and am both ineligible for subsidized care and unable to afford private care, and that is with the MA reforms these bozo’s are about to take national. i don’t have the luxury to laugh about how Obama looks like a socialist.’

    D@mn, mj. Take real good care of yourself. I agree that coverage of some type should be available for American Citizens who have either paid into the system, or worked, tried to support themselves and their families, and many other categories I haven’t mentioned, but I do not agree we are obligated to provide universal healthcare for non-citizens or for those who haven’t contributed to the country.
    I’m not includ9ing emergency services in my admittedly meager list.

  119. Mj,

    Forgot to ask,

    So are you in that category of MA citizen that could potentially be ‘fined’ for not having insurance?

    Or is that not part of the program?

  120. basil9 Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Mj,

    Forgot to ask,

    So are you in that category of MA citizen that could potentially be ‘fined’ for not having insurance?

    Oh yes. My sister who is my lawyer is currently fighting the fines.

  121. mj,

    Right wingers have some valid criticisms of Obama (in general, and about his specific policies). They tend to also have some backwards ideas. Often there is a conflation of good and bad ideas.

    So by posting some of their views, I do not necessarily endorse them whole cloth. In fact, I’ve posted (in a contrarian manner) stuff I’ve completely disagreed with, as as a means establishing a pushing back platform. Such as, finding some goo-goo eyed hopium smoker, and rebutting them.

    Yes, Obama-care is the crappy / sloppy grab fest, a la Stimulus Plan for the Health Care Industry.

    But we need Congress to do something real. In recognition of the void at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., it means having a symphony without a conductor. A “community-organized” symphony, if you will.

  122. basil9 says:

    “I heard an MD today tearing the BO plan apart, especially the portion specifying that those over 65 will have to have a ‘quality-of-life’ type (AKA is-it-time-to-pull the-plug) conversation with their doctor every five years.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Obama Admin has been pontificating their HCP has the approval of the AMA. Whats’ that all about?

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    rgb44hrc Says:July 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    BEUHLER? BEUHLER?? ANYONE???

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have a funny Beuhler like story long before Ferris B’s Day Off became a classic.

  123. Basil9 Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “I heard an MD today tearing the BO plan apart, especially the portion specifying that those over 65 will have to have a ‘quality-of-life’ type (AKA is-it-time-to-pull the-plug) conversation with their doctor every five years.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Obama Admin has been pontificating their HCP has the approval of the AMA. Whats’ that all about?

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    rgb44hrc Says:July 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    BEUHLER? BEUHLER?? ANYONE???

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have a funny Beuhler like story long before Ferris B’s Day Off became a classic.

  124. Pat Racimora over at NQ has a terrific cartoon and an article which clearly discusses one of my objections to the BO proposal.

    (And, no, I’m not close to 65).

    She posts the ENTIRE garbled, indecipherable techno-legalese bill.

    What does everyone think? (go to the lonk to see the text of the bill)
    ‘Under the latest health care bill out of the Congress, will old folks have a duty to die?
    Does the bill prescribe end-of-life options and explicitly encourage them?
    Is everyone over 65 mandated to receive counseling for “Advanced Care Planning” (a euphemism for “death planning”) every 5 years?
    There are those who look at the bill and say, “absolutely.” Obama’s bill will solve health care costs by encouraging older people to decide to pack it in early, perhaps with the assistance of their “health care proxy” (a new decision-making position). Others say no such thing is stated and that those who say so are both cruel and out to destroy any improvement and needed reforms in our health care system.’

    www dot noquarterusa dot net/blog/2009/07/27/are-grandma-and-grandpa-the-targets/#more-28855

  125. OT and BTW, but I’ve been thinking about 2012, and who will run. These are just my thoughts at the moment, and could change:

    No, I don’t think HIll will, barring disaster that really tanks Obama and he doesn’t seek a 2nd term, and even then its doubtful.

    The GOP is going to push Mitt, HARD. Don;t know if the R primary voters will go for it, though. Jindal will run, and he’s a tool – will get a lot of the bible thumpers, but not a lot else. Newt wants to run so badly he can taste it, but is likely smart enough not to – he’ll play kingmaker instead. Palin will likely not run. I think she has other plans for her life.

    Then there’s Paul Ryan of Minnesota. Watch him closely. He may even run himself, but will most certainly be a VP short-lister for the GOP.

    He’s conservative as hell in a very libertarian way, but actually smart. Not a raging homophobe. Has degrees in economics and political science. Ran a successful business doing economic consulting at a very young age. Claims he has been reading annual white house budgets since he was 18, just because he found it interesting. Laughs and calls himself a geek.

    He’s young, and attractive in a sort of a my-favorite-kid-brother way, though he does have very striking blue eyes. Talks like a populist. Does some sneering at washington politics. Has been re-elected in landslides (over 60%) in Minnesota ever since 1998.

    I’ve been watching politics for a looooong time, and this guy is going to be a political star for the GOP. Watch.

    Remember I predicted it all, so hold me accountable either way. 😉 😀

  126. ‘Oh yes. My sister who is my lawyer is currently fighting the fines.’

    UNFRIGGIN BELIEVABLE!!!!

    $%!#@^%!

    BOL with that and stay healthy!

  127. I agree. I don’t like laws concerning end of life treatment, and I don’t think they are necessary. We can educate doctors to discuss the options with clients in the most dire situations, where it has already been shown to be effective. But these creepy mandated talks, and the thought of not giving an elderly person a hip replacement! are disgusting.

  128. I heard an MD today tearing the BO plan apart, especially the portion specifying that those over 65 will have to have a ‘quality-of-life’ type (AKA is-it-time-to-pull the-plug) conversation with their doctor every five years.
    ************
    I think that is a good idea. Very few people want to be trapped in an ICU bed, unable to make a decision about their own care and have their nearest relative, who feels guilty about an old family feud, tell the doctors to do everything possible. To go along with that scenario, there are a lot of people who won’t sit down a address those issues…”I’ll do it tomorrow”…..I always put it off until I was going to have major surgery, then took care of it…what if I had had a stoke or auto accident without having my wishes known? Obama-care is a POS and has do be defeated but MJ is right, the wingnuts are pushing people’s buttons so that the Insurance Companies will ration your Health Care forever. That the story about the government wants to “kill the old people”, the parasites on the health care system push this crap and they are laughing their asses off when people buy it. It’s the same thing about “higher taxes”. I remember people in the upper 0.5% laughing at the people who voted Republican so the rich could get tax cuts same play is going on with Health Care.

  129. SHV,
    It’s a potentially good idea IF people aren’t deliberately deprived of care because they fall into some bureaucratic cut-off point for continuing care.

    I do NOT trust big government to decide what that is.

    BTW, you might find this interesting. Emanuel’s brother, now a big-whit in the BO healthcare program and one of the guys calling the shots, wrote this book in 1991.

    The Ends of Human Life: Medical Ethics in a Liberal Polity. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1991. (Ezekiel is Rahm Emanuel’s brother)
    This book argues for terminating care for the elderly and the equitable allocation of medical resources.

  130. SHV, doctors already talk to patients about end-of-life care. Every day. There is no need to put it into the bill, in 3 paragraphs of excruciating detail about what those talks should consist of.

    If it is not meant to subtly pressure seniors into agreeing to renounce more care, then why the need to make it govt mandated, and not just every 5 years but “more frequently if there is an illness”?

    It’s intrusive, and it’s INSULTING. I am all for hospice, and living wills, etc. But that is NONE of the govt’s business when or how I have that conversation with my doctor and my family.

  131. SHV,

    I’d like to recomment Pat Racimora’s post over at NQ for some eloquent expressions of why this is questionable.

    Also, if you get a chance, perhaps you could check the actual text of the bill also posted at the NQ article.

    i have already confessed my ignorance about insurance details and such things. I guess I’m just dense.

  132. basil9 Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I checked out the CBO Report addressed to C.Rangal of the Ways and Means Com… Throughout the analysis, the CBO says it is unable to report an accurate view of the draft currently in the House because the portion they are reviewing is an earlier version entirely different in language and substance from the House version. Waste of Time when we’re not dealing with the version of the Bill currently in play.

  133. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    SHV, doctors already talk to patients about end-of-life care. Every day. There is no need to put it into the bill, in 3 paragraphs of excruciating detail about what those talks should consist of.If it is not meant to subtly pressure seniors into agreeing to renounce more care, then why the need to make it govt mandated, and not just every 5 years but “more frequently if there is an illness”?

    It’s intrusive, and it’s INSULTING. I am all for hospice, and living wills, etc. But that is NONE of the govt’s business when or how I have that conversation with my doctor and my family.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly right, H4T. When I brought my mother to the ER a few weeks ago, they handed her a living will to sign after her condition was stabilized. They wanted it on record.

  134. Apologies for inflicting torture but here’s a part of the bill.

    Thanks Pat at NQ.

    (ii) The Secretary shall limit the requirement for explanations under clause (i) to consultations
    furnished in a State—
    (I) in which all legal barriers have been addressed for enabling orders for life sustaining treatment to constitute a set of medical orders respected across all care settings; and
    (II) that has in effect a program for orders for life sustaining treatment described in
    clause (iii).
    (iii) A program for orders for life sustaining treatment for a States described in this clause is a
    program that—
    (I) ensures such orders are standardized and uniquely identifiable throughout the State;
    (II) distributes or makes accessible such orders to physicians and other health professionals that (acting within the scope of the professional’s authority under State law) may sign orders for life sustaining treatment;
    (III) provides training for health care professionals across the continuum of care about the goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment; and
    (IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association, and state hospice association.
    (2) A practitioner described in this paragraph is—
    (A) a physician (as defined in subsection (r)(1)); and
    (B) a nurse practitioner or physician’s assistant who has the authority under State law to sign
    orders for life sustaining treatments.
    (3)(A) An initial preventive physical examination under subsection (WW), including any related discussion during such examination, shall not be considered an advance care planning consultation for purposes of applying the 5-year limitation under paragraph (1).
    (B) An advance care planning consultation with respect to an individual may be conducted more frequently than provided under paragraph (1) if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual, including diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life-limiting disease, a
    life-threatening or terminal diagnosis or life-threatening injury, or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, along-term care facility (as defined by the Secretary), or a hospice program.
    (4) A consultation under this subsection may include the formulation of an order regarding life sustaining treatment or a similar order.
    (5)(A) For purposes of this section, the term ‘order regarding life sustaining treatment’ means, with respect to an individual, an actionable medical order relating to the treatment of that individual that—
    (i) is signed and dated by a physician (as defined in subsection (r)(1)) or another health care
    professional (as specified by the Secretary and who is acting within the scope of the professional’s authority under State law in signing such an order, including a nurse practitioner or physician assistant) and is in a form that permits it to stay with the individual and be followed by health care professionals and providers across the continuum of care;
    (ii) effectively communicates the individual’s preferences regarding life sustaining treatment, including an indication of the treatment and care desired by the individual;
    (iii) is uniquely identifiable and standardized within a given locality, region, or State (as identified by the Secretary); and
    (iv) may incorporate any advance directive (as defined in section 1866(f)(3)) if executed by the individual.
    (B) The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may include indications respecting, among other items—
    (i) the intensity of medical intervention if the patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac
    or pulmonary problems;
    (ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer to a hospital or remaining at the current care set21
    ting;
    (iii) the use of antibiotics; and
    (iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration
    .

  135. HillaryforTexas Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    ———————————

    Any other dim predictions? If not Hillary and not obama, then who?

  136. JanH Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    h…w… israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132597

  137. i have already confessed my ignorance about insurance details and such things. I guess I’m just dense.
    ************
    I downloaded the HR bill and spent four hours going through it. It is incomprehensible, I don’t know any more than I did before “reading” it. The only things that I know for sure 1) the legislation that Obama now calls “Health Insurance Reform” is basically designed to keep the money going to the Health Insurance Industry for at least another decade and 1/2 and 2) the right wing and Big-Med, Big-Pharma, and the Insurance companies are playing on people natural fears in order to screw them forever.

    As I have said before, the fortunate people who have health insurance and think that they are financially protected, are living in a dream world. Even if the company doesn’t dump you after a serious illness, the denials of payment, co-pays and other out of pocket costs will bankrupt most Americans.

  138. basil9 Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Apologies for inflicting torture but here’s a part of the bill.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    basil9- that Bill was submitted to the CBO before July 14th. Consequently, they are admitting the irrelevance of the Bill as written. The Bill currently in the House is completely different submitted on July 19th than the one linked at NQ.

  139. Hillary Clinton visit would help peace

    Monday, 27 July 2009

    Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, is no stranger to Northern Ireland and an autumn visit here, if the current speculation proves correct, would be most welcome.

    There is also strong speculation that she may be appointed by President Obama as the new special envoy to Northern Ireland. The post was previously held by career diplomats, and Senator George Mitchell also showed how a seasoned politician can bring an important dimension to peace-making here.

    Much progress has been made since George Mitchell made his unique contribution by paving the way for the Good Friday Agreement. As Chancellor, until recently, of Queen’s University he also kept a friendly eye on the Province as he carried out his official duties and also renewed his contacts.

    He has now moved on, and in his current onerous task as a Special Envoy to the Middle East, his experience here will no doubt prove beneficial.

    In the recent past diplomats, including Richard Hass and Paula Dobriansky, have played an important role as Special Envoys to Northern Ireland, but it appeared initially that President Obama was unwilling to fill the post full-time.

    Northern Ireland has made progress, but the Stormont power-sharing is still a fledgling experiment, and it would be foolhardy to suppose that this Province and its politicians could or should ignore offers of outside help and advice.

    Hillary Clinton is well-placed to fill the role of Special Envoy, even on a part-time basis. She is a partner in one of the most influential political dynasties in the United States and together with her husband President Bill Clinton, she has made a significant contribution to building peace and prosperity in Northern Ireland.

    There is no doubt that Bill Clinton played a major role here when he was the US president, and without his sustained interest and political skills it is doubtful if the final obstacles to the Good Friday Agreement would have been overcome.

    Hillary Clinton made her own contribution, not only as First Lady, but also as a shrewd politician who developed a close empathy with the people of Northern Ireland, and particularly with women’s groups.

    Obviously the situation has changed on the ground since her previous visits, but she knows enough about this Province to pick up quickly the more recent developments, and even more important, she understands the politics and the passions which makes Northern Ireland what it is.

    The appointment of a Special Envoy, and the identity of such an incumbent, is a matter for President Obama who has many other major preoccupations. Nevertheless he will be keen to do the right thing by this Province and its people.

    In the meantime, every welcome should be given to Hillary Clinton if and when she returns to Northern Ireland some time in the autumn. She has a wealth of experience and contacts to share with our political, economic and community leaders, and Northern Ireland will continue to need help at the highest levels to promote and sustain an economic progress to match that of the peace process.

    There is no better person to provide that help than Hillary Clinton, and her visit this autumn, if it materialises, could have a significant impact on our economic and political progress and, above all, on the prospects for a peaceful future.

    belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/viewpoint/hilary-clinton-visit-would-help-peace-14433370.html

  140. Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

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    WOW! An interesting turn of events, but I’m not surprised. Maybe it will start a world-wide trend…

  141. Wonderful article by the Belfast Telegraph. Finally hearing complimentary news about the importance Bill Clinton played in their Peace Accords

    Oh, boy! When Obama realizes how much the Clintons are revered in Ireland for sure he won’t appoint her.

  142. Jan,

    I am reading sporadic articles befuddled at the Jewish Communities nationwide still supporting Obama.

    Maybe this public display of anger against Obama will send the right message to those sitting on the sidelines and those still supporting BO.

  143. Mrs. Smith,

    It bothers me no end that even one Jewish person is supportive or even voted for the guy. It just seems like a slap in the face to Israel, given his plans for the area.

  144. We (Jews) have shamed ourselves and the land of Israel by supporting the most hostile , anti-Jewish POTUS in history. Initially, I rationalized it as a democratic thing, but it goes far beyond that. There are many Jews around Obama who are using their power and influence to marginalize Israel and those Jews who oppose Obama’s plan to destroy the Jewish state. This is a result, imo, of Jews being ashamed of their ethnicity and desire to totally assimilate into America, abandoning their bond with Israel. These Jews also have a warped view of history and forget that we did the same thing in Germany allowing Hitler to rise to power without opposition. This is a sad time to be a Jew and even sadder time to be an Israeli who has to hear American Jews, who have never faced the threat of daily terrorism, tell them that they are the obstacle to peace b/c of settlements.

  145. jbstonesfan Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

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    Well said! History repeating itself in the worst way.

  146. SHV,

    You are so right about this; ” the fortunate people who have health insurance and think that they are financially protected, are living in a dream world treatment now instead of waiting.

    That’s what really flipped me out about my situation. I may not have ever had much but I did think I had that base covered. What a wake-up call. That’s one of the reasons why I’m doing treatment now
    , just in case.
    Mrs Smith, You read that whole bill? Kudos. To you too Shv.
    jAN, jb, i’M also glad to see some israelis showing some backbone and protesting BO.

  147. Re: Mr. Gates.

    Will this become “Gates-gate”? I hope so…

    As for “having that beer”, Crowley can come on down and have a beer. As for BFFs Obama and Gates, they’ll have the Dom Perignon, before heading to Martha’s Vineyard.

  148. basil9 Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Mrs Smith, You read that whole bill? Kudos

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I went to NQ and the article you mentioned… clicked on the link that said “bill”
    the page and this link below was shown:

    h….angrybear.blogspot.com/2009/07/house-tri-committee-health-care-bill.html

    Then I hopped on link with the summary submitted by the CBO..

    CBO-Preliminary Analysis: Tri-Committee Health Care Bill

    It is there where they say, this is not the Bill under consideration but an earlier version.

    Really, I appreciate your intentions but it’s NOT a current of the Bill.

  149. “I have been moved by the … cries for freedom. … People that go back millennia, that have such a great culture and history, deserve better than what they’re getting.”
    *************************

    Hillary, we deserved better too!

  150. I think anyone thinking of having elective surgery should have it in the next 2 years. Don’t know if there will be an option if this “plan” goes thru

    Obama now wants old white ladies not to have hip surgery… If you haven’t felt the pain she must of felt trying to walk you might agree. Hip surgery is a major ordeal, she must of been suffering greatly to have agreed to go ahead under the circumstances. Of course, she could have chosen to be bed ridden, gotten decubit, incontinent as she couldn’t make the bathroom. But hey, she was going to die anyway. What is quality of life worth? He is ALWAYS using his poor old white grandmother as an example. He really does have his mother issues.
    Hope poor Michelle’s mothers heath is doing well, hate to see her crawling around on the White house floors in her depends!

  151. gonzo,

    meme’s mother was interviewed recently as saying she is having the best time of her life in the White House.

  152. From the Ben Stein article:

    Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation.

    What a patently absurd statement. She did no such thing. Also, what’s with the “Mrs.” part? She’s Hillary Clinton, period. He makes it sound like she’s an appendage of her husband’s.

  153. Paula Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
    From the Ben Stein article:

    Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation.

    What a patently absurd statement. She did no such thing. Also, what’s with the “Mrs.” part? She’s Hillary Clinton, period. He makes it sound like she’s an appendage of her husband’s.
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    She did not say anything like that. Stein needs to read her statement from yesterday’s interview. It is so tiring to read the way that people distort the truth and what someone says.

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    Hip replacements in older people are very dangerous, stressful, and carry a very high mortality rate with them. They are often the harbringer of death. If the surgery doesn’t kill them, the recovery will. Of course, the recovery rate is higher in those people who are in a better state of general health. Healthcare providers dread broken hips in older patients because of the high mortality rate.

  154. birdgal Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

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    I understand that, and as I SAID, she must have been in a great deal of pain to agree.As someone who IS an RN, I realize the complications, but as someone who suffers from arthritic pain, I know where she was coming from.

  155. gonzo,

    Agreed again.

    having spent 20 years in the inefficient mother-of-all-bureaucracies the so-called education system – i don’t want ANYONE fine-printing me to death.

    hehehehe

  156. Paula,

    I caught that as well. She didn’t give Iran carte blanche. She did the exact opposite in fact.

    It’s a no-win situation. The media has made the Clintons their punching bags and will do any and everything to twist whatever they say and make them look like monsters.

  157. gonzotx Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    In the end, I want to make that decision, not have the Gov make it for me
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    Exactly. I would want to make that decision myself. She must of been in horrific pain to have made the decison to undergo such an operation.

  158. And my last comment on hip surgery for the elderly, my grandmother was 95 and broke her hip, i too was afraid, Well, she had it done, went to rehab for 60 days and was back in her apartment without a walker for 5 years. Now Mr Fraud may not like those odds, and her fortitude was incredibly strong, I do believe she would have died in a nursing home.

    Hers may not be a typical story of a 95 year old getting hip replacement surgery, but I wouldn’t have wanted to be the Dr. to tell her she couldn’t have it. But then again, people are living longer and are generally more active for a longer period of life time. What do you tell the 79 y/o that still golfs, swims and hikes?

  159. By the way, anyone know the AARP take on this. Then again, what really is the AARP, seems to be an Ins Co.

  160. Obama’s Six Month Policy Implosion

    By Daniel Greenfield Monday, July 27, 2009

    …Obamacare, which was supposed to succeed where the Clintons had failed, ran into skepticism from the same conservative Democrats that the Democratic congress had relied on to create a congressional majority. While the AARP was a cakewalk, having wedged the heavily pro Obama Avis executive Barry Rand who had contributed nearly 10 grand to Obama, as the AARP’s new CEO. The AMA and the many
    HMO’s were a far trickier beast…

    ********************

    A lot he says is BS in the article, very dis Hillary, but I see AARP sold out long ago, as has the ANA (American Nurses Association-I sent them a few choice words)

  161. gonzotx Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    By the way, anyone know the AARP take on this. Then again, what really is the AARP, seems to be an Ins Co.

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    AARP seems to be supporting this potential legislation, but then again, they supported Medicare Part D. Makes one wonder, whose pocket they are in?

  162. A lot he says is BS in the article, very dis Hillary, but I see AARP sold out long ago, as has the ANA (American Nurses Association-I sent them a few choice words)

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    ANA and the CNA (California Nurse’s Association) are both sellouts. For the CNA, who has been very active in promoting a single payer healthcare system, for them to be supporting Obamacare makes my head explode.

  163. # gonzotx Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    By the way, anyone know the AARP take on this.
    **********
    Surprisingly AARP is all for Obama-care, which surprised me since Medicare is going to provide the majority of money to balance the books. I though the proposal to allow the Exec. branch to change Medicare benefits was particularly worrisome. Again, if they “save” $600 billion from Medicare/Medicade over ten years and shift that money for Obama-care, the Insurance Companies get a wind-fall of at least $150 billion.

    “Then again, what really is the AARP, seems to be an Ins Co.”
    ****
    I hadn’t thought of that but I think you are right. The only thing that I get from AARP these days are offers for insurance. Looks as if they are in the Insurance scam also, sold out their constituents.

  164. nice homage to President Bill Clinton over at: (those were the days)

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/ and many things Bill accomplished are listed

    I like how the writer, littleisis, puts things in perspective and says:

    In the Nineties, public support for Gay Marriage, Equality of Benefits, and the right for Gays to serve openly in the Military wasn’t very strong. In fact, Gay rights were still something of a taboo back then. When Bill was President, he dealt with a foaming Republican Congress, Democrats on the Hill who loathed him, an overly hostile Press Corps, and a Right Wing Conspiracy Independent Counsel sniffing for his impeachment every time he or Hillary so much as farted. Because of Ross Perot’s Candidacy, he wasn’t elected with a majority, and he defeated an extremely popular incumbent. He didn’t have much Political Capitol at all, but he still tried to push as much liberal legislation through Congress as he possibly could before the midterm elections, when the party in power almost always loses seats. Even Dubya, when he was first elected President, passed whatever legislation he wanted, despite not being elected by a majority (and in fact, stealing the election) because his party was in power.

    Barack Obama, on the other hand, has a fawning Press Corps and solid, filibuster proof majorities in the House and the Senate at his disposal. He is following an extremely unpopular administration into the White House and he was elected with 53% of the vote. At the moment he doesn’t seem to have much opposition for reelection in 2012. He should be the liberal God Obots claim him to be, but sadly, he is wiping his ass with the Constitution, continuing the War in Iraq, passing Stimulus Bills that stimulate nothing, Bailing out Banks with taxpayer money and proposing lousy Healthcare Reform.

    …and so it goes…

  165. Here’s a good one:
    [Dr. David] Scheiner, 71, was Obama’s doctor from 1987 until he entered the White House; he vouched for the then-candidate’s “excellent health” in a letter last year. He’s still an enthusiastic Obama supporter, but he worries about whether the health care legislation currently making its way through Congress will actually do any good, particularly for doctors like himself who practice general medicine.

    “I’m not sure he really understands what we face in primary care,” Scheiner says.

    www dot forbes.com/2009/06/18/obama-doctor-knocks-obamacare-business-healthcare-obamas-doctor.html

  166. I found thi @ Bitterpol
    +++++++++++++++++++

    Found this at Gateway Pundit – Rahm’s brother describing the new health care plan

    Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of
    Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

    Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. “Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely ‘lipstick’ cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change,” he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

    Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008).

    Yes, that’s what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

    Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they’ll tell you that a doctor’s job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time.

    Emanuel, however, believes that “communitarianism” should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia” (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. ‘96).

  167. 2 Senators better start writing resignation letters and get a lawyer.

    Dodd, Conrad told deals were sweetened

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Despite their denials, influential Democratic Sens. Kent Conrad and Chris Dodd were told from the start they were getting VIP mortgage discounts from one of the nation’s largest lenders, the official who handled their loans has told Congress in secret testimony.

    Both senators have said that at the time the mortgages were being written they didn’t know they were getting unique deals from Countrywide Financial Corp., the company that went on to lose billions of dollars on home loans to credit-strapped borrowers. Dodd still maintains he got no preferential treatment.

    Dodd got two Countrywide mortgages in 2003, refinancing his home in Connecticut and another residence in Washington. Conrad’s two Countrywide mortgages in 2004 were for a beach house in Delaware and an eight-unit apartment building in Bismarck in his home state of North Dakota.

    Robert Feinberg, who worked in the Countrywide’s VIP section, told congressional investigators last month that the two senators were made aware that “who you know is basically how you’re coming in here.”

    “You don’t say ‘no’ to the VIP,” Feinberg told Republican investigators for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, according to a transcript obtained by The Associated Press.

    The next day, Feinberg testified before the Senate Ethics Committee, an indication the panel is actively investigating two of the chamber’s more powerful members:

    —Dodd heads the Banking Committee and is a major player in two big areas: solving the housing foreclosure and financial crises and putting together an overhaul of the U.S. health care system. A five-term senator, he is in a tough fight for re-election in 2010, partly because of the controversy over his mortgages.

    _Conrad chairs the Budget Committee. He, too, shares an important role in the health care debate, as well as on legislation to curb global warming.

    Both senators were VIP borrowers in the program known as “friends” of Angelo. Angelo Mozilo was chief executive of Countrywide, which played a big part in the foreclosure crisis triggered by defaults on subprime loans. The Calabasas, Calif.-based company was bought last July by Bank of America Corp. for about $2.5 billion.

    Mozilo has been charged with civil fraud and illegal insider trading by the Securities and Exchange Commission. He denies any wrongdoing.

    Asked by a House investigator if Conrad, the North Dakota senator, “was aware that he was getting preferential treatment?” Feinberg answered: “Yes, he was aware.”

    Referring to Dodd, the investigator asked:

    “And do you know if during the course of your communications” with the senator or his wife “that you ever had an opportunity to share with them if they were getting special VIP treatment?”

    “Yes, yes,” Feinberg replied.

  168. AP Sources: Senate group omitting Dem health goals (err is there actually anything left in the healthcare bill that is actually healthcare?)

    WASHINGTON – After weeks of secretive talks, a bipartisan group in the Senate edged closer Monday to a health care compromise that omits a requirement for businesses to offer coverage to their workers and lacks a government insurance option that President Barack Obama favors, according to numerous officials.

    Like bills drafted by Democrats, the proposal under discussion by six members on the Senate Finance Committee would bar insurance companies from denying coverage to any applicant. Nor could insurers charge higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

    But it jettisons other core Democratic provisions in a reach for bipartisanship on an issue that has so far produced little.

    The effort received a boost during the day from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, normally a close ally of Republicans. In a letter to committee leaders, the business group called for the panel to “act promptly, preferably before” the Senate’s scheduled vacation at the end of next week. In doing so, the business organization dealt a blow to the Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other GOP lawmakers who have called repeatedly for Democrats to slow down.

    In yet another boost for the drive to enact legislation, PhRMA, which represents drug companies, has purchased more than $500,000 worth of television ads to air during the week in nine states.

    Obama’s top domestic priority has suffered numerous setbacks in recent weeks, and Republicans have stepped up their criticism. A Senate vote has been postponed until September. Administration and Democratic leaders hope to show significant progress before lawmakers begin their monthlong recess in hopes of regaining momentum.

  169. AP Sources: Senate group omitting Dem health goals
    By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent 8 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – After weeks of secretive talks, a bipartisan group in the Senate edged closer Monday to a health care compromise that omits a requirement for businesses to offer coverage to their workers and lacks a government insurance option that President Barack Obama favors, according to numerous officials.

    Like bills drafted by Democrats, the proposal under discussion by six members on the Senate Finance Committee would bar insurance companies from denying coverage to any applicant. Nor could insurers charge higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

    But it jettisons other core Democratic provisions in a reach for bipartisanship on an issue that has so far produced little.

    The effort received a boost during the day from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, normally a close ally of Republicans. In a letter to committee leaders, the business group called for the panel to “act promptly, preferably before” the Senate’s scheduled vacation at the end of next week. In doing so, the business organization dealt a blow to the Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other GOP lawmakers who have called repeatedly for Democrats to slow down.

    In yet another boost for the drive to enact legislation, PhRMA, which represents drug companies, has purchased more than $500,000 worth of television ads to air during the week in nine states.

    snip

    They said any legislation that emerges from the talks is expected to provide for a non-profit cooperative to sell insurance in competition with private industry, rather than giving the federal government a role in the marketplace. The White House and numerous Democrats in Congress have called for a government option to provide competition to private companies and hold down costs.

    Officials also said a bipartisan compromise would not subject companies to a penalty if they declined to offer coverage to their workers. These businesses would be required to reimburse the government for part or all of any federal subsidies designed to help lower-income employees obtain insurance on their own.

    Democratic-drafted legislation in the House includes both a penalty and a requirement for companies to share in the cost of covering employees.

    Any measure along the lines under discussion could face difficulties on the Senate floor, where Democrats command a 60-vote majority.

    Additionally, negotiators are likely to call for a commission to recommend long-term savings in Medicare that would take effect automatically unless overturned by Congress. Unlike some of the other provisions, that is an issue that unites the White House and business groups seeking to rein in the cost of medical care.

    Among tax increases likely to be adopted is an excise tax of as much as 35 percent on insurance with very high annual premiums, perhaps over $25,000.

    The senators involved in the negotiations are all members of the Senate Finance Committee, and include Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the chairman, and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, the senior Republican. Others participating are Democratic Sens. Kent Conrad of North Dakota and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico, and Republicans Olympia Snowe of Maine and Mike Enzi of Wyoming.

    They have met for hours in recent weeks in Baucus’ office, joined by aides and outside advisers such as actuaries summoned to explain arcane details of insurance. Douglas Elmendorf, head of the Congressional Budget Office, has also attended.

    snip

    Much of the cost of the proposal would come from curbing the growth in fees to insurance companies and other providers under Medicare.

    But congressional aides in both parties as well as lobbyists said a proposal limiting Flexible Savings Accounts to $2,000 annually is also a strong possibility. FSAs permit the use of pre-tax income to pay for items such as health care and child care.

    Negotiators also are considering fees on the manufacturers of medical devices and on the makers of both brand name and generic drugs coming onto the market.

    To cut down on the cost of the bill, the bipartisan group may include only one year of a long-term plan to adjust reimbursement fees under Medicare.

    Officials said the legislation under discussion in a series of private meetings would likely cost under $1 trillion, include an expansion of Medicaid, and provide federal subsidies for individuals and families up to 300 percent of poverty to spread health care more broadly.

    Individuals would have a mandate to buy affordable insurance, but companies would not have a requirement to offer it.

    more at:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul/print

    note the last line: “Individuals would have a mandate to buy affordable insurance, but companies would not have a requirement to offer it.”

    Does that make sense? How are people going to be able to buy “affordable” insurance, if the insurance companies aren’t required to offer it? I envision the coverage, if any, to be be very poor.

  170. moononpluto Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
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    LOL! You beat me to it.

  171. From BP..I think it is because AARP has sold out and it’s members have not a clue. They are being told things will actually be better. Time to call your parents and grandparents!
    *****************************

    OBAMA WILL REPEAL MEDICARE
    By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann 07.9.2009 Obama’s health care proposal is, in effect, the repeal of the Medicare program as we know it. The elderly will go from being the group with the most access to free medical care to the one with the least access. Indeed, the principal impact of the Obama health care program will be to reduce sharply the medical services the elderly can use. No longer will their every medical need be met, their every medication prescribed, their every need to improve their quality of life answered.

    It is so ironic that the elderly – who were so vigilant when Bush proposed to change Social Security – are so relaxed about the Obama health care proposals. Bush’s Social Security plan, which did not cut their benefits at all, aroused the strongest opposition among the elderly. But Obama’s plan, which will totally gut Medicare and replace it with government-managed care and rationing, has elicited little more than a yawn from most senior citizens.

    It’s time for the elderly to wake up before it is too late!

    In our new book, Catastrophe, we explain – in detail and in depth – the consequences the elderly of Canada are feeling from just this kind of program. Limited colonoscopies have led to a 25% higher rate of colon cancer and a ban on the use of the two best chemotherapies are part of the reason why 42% of Canadians with colon cancer die while 31% of Americans, who have access to these two medications, survive the disease.

    Overall, the death rate from cancer in Canada is 16% higher than in the United States and the heart disease mortality rate is 6% above ours’.

    Under Obama’s program, there will be a government health insurance company that gets huge subsidies of tax money. It will compete with private insurance plans. But the subsidies will let it undercut the private plans and drive them out of business, leaving only the government plan – a single payer – in effect.

    Today, 800,000 doctors struggle to treat adequately the 250 million Americans who have insurance. Obama will add 50 million more to their caseload with no expansion in the number of doctors or nurses. Indeed, his plan will likely reduce their number by lowering reimbursement rates and imposing bureaucrats above them who will force medical decisions down their throats. Fewer doctors will have to treat more patients. The inevitable result will be rationing.

    And it is the elderly who rationing will most effect. Who should get a knee replacement a 40 year old or a 70 year old? Who should get a new hip, a young person or an old person? Who should have priority in the operating room a seventy year old diabetic who needs bypass surgery or a younger person? Obviously, it is the elderly who will get short shrift under his proposal.

    But the interest groups that usually speak up for the elderly, particularly AARP, are in Obama’s pocket, hoping to profit from his program by becoming one of its vendors. Just as they backed Bush’s prescription drug plan because they anticipating profiting from it, so they are now helping Obama gut the medical care of their constituents.

    It is high time that the elderly of America realized what the stakes are in this vital fight to preserve Medicare as we know it and keep medical care open, accessible, and free to those over 65. It is truly a battle for their very lives.

  172. Yes, ARRP is an insurance company. I have been reading you guys posts and looking at other infor about HC and what I have come to decide is that this whole bill looks like a jackpot for the insurance companies. Hes bailed out the car company’s, aig, the banks and now he padding the pocket for the healthcare industry.
    I understand we are meeting with China now, I wonder what is promising them? Looks like the American people are on the bottom of the Christmas list again, just like we were when GWB was in.

  173. You know they are going to pass some junk just to say they did and NO good will come of it for the American people.

  174. OT, but John Conyers says there’s no point in reading legislation:

    (CNSNews.com) – During his speech at a National Press Club luncheon, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Democratic Congressman John Conyers (D-Mich.), questioned the point of lawmakers reading the health care bill.

    “I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill,’” said Conyers.

    “What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

    http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51610&print=on

    So if my surgeon doesn’t read my chart or my lab tests before he does surgery, an acceptable excuse is, “Well, it was all really long and complicated?”

    WTF???

    And if bills are too complicated to be understood by those voting on them, MAYBEEEE the solution is to WRITE THE DAMN BILLS IN PLAIN ENGLISH, NOT to just give up on reading or understanding the bills?

    These people are criminal. They really are.

  175. of course confloyd, all those phoney donations and corporate backing didnt come without a payoff.

    Obama had a shitload of pharma backing, you can be sure this bill is for them and not for anyone else. I wish the rest of the country would wake up to it.

  176. Dear Sandra,

    Live town hall meeting with President Obama.

    Tuesday, July 28
    1:30 p.m. Eastern
    I just got this, pass it around, the selling out of granny’s hips….
    *************************************
    Don’t miss the opportunity to participate:
    Submit your question on health reform NOW

    On Tuesday, watch the
    live webcast at
    http://www.aarp.org/TownHall

    President Barack Obama is holding a special LIVE town hall meeting with AARP and Divided We Fail supporters tomorrow – Tuesday, July 28th – at 1:30 p.m. EDT.

    But that’s not all, Sandra.

    You’ve taken part in the debate on the critical issue of health care reform from the beginning. Now you can take your questions straight to the top – we’ve arranged for President Obama to take several questions from our online supporters at tomorrow’s town hall!

    Click here to submit your question for tomorrow’s LIVE town hall meeting with President Obama.

    President Obama will join us to discuss the ways that health reform legislation currently before Congress will impact AARP members and older Americans and will be responding to your questions.

    The president will be joined by AARP CEO A. Barry Rand for a conversation with tens of thousands listening on the phone, online, and from a live studio audience.

    AARP has set up a live webcast on its site. Starting at 1:30 p.m. Eastern, you’ll be able to watch the town hall and listen to President Obama answer questions from AARP and Divided We Fail members about health reform.

    This is a critical juncture in the health care debate, and we need to make sure we have the facts. Now is the time to tune in, ask questions and listen to the options before us. We have a historic opportunity to ask President Obama some tough questions, so let’s make sure we take it.

    To watch the president live online in the webcast on Tuesday go to:
    aarp.org/TownHall

    Sincerely,

    The Divided We Fail Team

    P.S. Health care reform affects us all. Please forward this invite to others who might be interested in watching the town hall meeting! You can also spread the word by posting this on Twitter or Facebook.

  177. I had an interesting email conversation with a friend that lives in Phoenix about the real estate. She indicated there are a lot of short sales and bankruptsies going on. The small business are dropping like flies and a lot of vacant store fronts.

    However, she say that these homes are being purchased by people in Canada, and from Asia, at a very good price. I assume she is talking the bankrupt homes.

    Here, we saw a number of business offices built, some of the very elaborate, and they are now sitting vacant.

    This is the first I have heard of who is snapping up the bargains though. Anyone else see an article on this?

  178. Dear Sandra,

    Live town hall meeting with President Obama.

    Tuesday, July 28
    1:30 p.m. Eastern

    Don’t miss the opportunity to participate:
    Submit your question on health reform NOW

    On Tuesday, watch the
    live webcast at
    aarp.org/TownHall

    President Barack Obama is holding a special LIVE town hall meeting with AARP and Divided We Fail supporters tomorrow – Tuesday, July 28th – at 1:30 p.m. EDT.

    But that’s not all, Sandra.

    You’ve taken part in the debate on the critical issue of health care reform from the beginning. Now you can take your questions straight to the top – we’ve arranged for President Obama to take several questions from our online supporters at tomorrow’s town hall!

    Click here to submit your question for tomorrow’s LIVE town hall meeting with President Obama.

    President Obama will join us to discuss the ways that health reform legislation currently before Congress will impact AARP members and older Americans and will be responding to your questions.

    The president will be joined by AARP CEO A. Barry Rand for a conversation with tens of thousands listening on the phone, online, and from a live studio audience.

    AARP has set up a live webcast on its site. Starting at 1:30 p.m. Eastern, you’ll be able to watch the town hall and listen to President Obama answer questions from AARP and Divided We Fail members about health reform.

    This is a critical juncture in the health care debate, and we need to make sure we have the facts. Now is the time to tune in, ask questions and listen to the options before us. We have a historic opportunity to ask President Obama some tough questions, so let’s make sure we take it.

    To watch the president live online in the webcast on Tuesday go to:
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    Sincerely,

    The Divided We Fail Team

    P.S. Health care reform affects us all. Please forward this invite to others who might be interested in watching the town hall meeting! You can also spread the word by posting this on Twitter or Facebook.

  179. I heard that despite Dodd’s attacks on lobbyists, that he is still reaping the benefits from lobbyist contributions.

  180. Admin

    Would you erase comment of mine @ 7:05, is duplicate and has my name on it…Somehow I didn’t see that!

  181. Would’nt i just love to stand up with him at live town hall with him thinking i was going ask a wonderful planted question to just say “go fuck yourself for what you’ve done”

  182. gonzotx Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

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    I think Morris is inaccurate when he says:

    “Under Obama’s program, there will be a government health insurance company that gets huge subsidies of tax money. It will compete with private insurance plans. But the subsidies will let it undercut the private plans and drive them out of business, leaving only the government plan – a single payer – in effect.”

    Morris is wrong. Obamacare is not single payer, but he may be right about the future for the elderly.

    Is that really true that Canada has a two-tiered cancer chemotherapy program? The elderly receive substandard medication and treatment? That is very short-sighted, if that is the case.

  183. Never mind Admin, I did it to post 7:06 too!

    birdgal

    However the Fraud does it the end result will not be good. I can’t see the big 600 billion Ins Co going down nor the pharmaceuticals. We would be hearing them scream @ this point. The silence is deafening. Where are the commercials, the flyers?

  184. and Biden opens his mouth again and inserts foot then proceeds to wash it down with a glass of water.

    US Vice President Biden hits nerve in Russia (Biden: Russia is a weakened nation)

    MOSCOW — An interview U.S. Vice President Joe Biden gave to an American newspaper was front-page news Monday in Moscow, where his characterization of Russia as a weakened nation hit a raw nerve.

    Biden said Russia’s economic difficulties are likely to make the Kremlin more willing to cooperate with the United States on a range of national security issues.

    “I think we vastly underestimate the hand that we hold,” he said in an interview to The Wall Street Journal published Saturday.

    Biden’s comments appeared to catch the Kremlin by surprise, coming less than three weeks after President Barack Obama said on a visit to Moscow that the U.S. wants to see a “strong, peaceful and prosperous Russia.”

    It raises the question: Who is shaping U.S. foreign policy? The president or members of his team, even the most respected ones?” said Kremlin foreign policy adviser Sergei Prikhodko.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Monday downplayed suggestions that Biden was setting a different U.S. policy from that laid out by the president.

    When asked whether Obama thought Biden had gone too far in his remarks, Gibbs said the president stated his views on Russia during his recent visit and the vice president agrees with those views.

    Gibbs said both leaders believe Russia will do its part to improve relations with the U.S.

    Most Russian newspapers put Biden’s interview on their front pages Monday, with headlines casting doubt on Washington’s commitment to forge a more constructive relationship with Moscow.

    “Joe Biden unexpectedly returned to the rhetoric of the previous Bush administration,” the newspaper Kommersant wrote.

    Moskovsky Komsomolets said Biden, with his “boorish openness,” showed what the Obama administration really thinks about Russia. “We should respond to the Yankees in the same way,” the newspaper wrote. “Any other language, unfortunately or fortunately, they do not understand.”

  185. I really think Biden is doing this on purpose? Hillary comes out strong and he steals the headlines with his intoxicated comments? Water, ya…Vodka and water…

  186. SHV Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    I heard an MD today tearing the BO plan apart, especially the portion specifying that those over 65 will have to have a ‘quality-of-life’ type (AKA is-it-time-to-pull the-plug) conversation with their doctor every five years.
    ************
    I think that is a good idea. Very few people want to be trapped in an ICU bed, unable to make a decision about their own care and have their nearest relative, who feels guilty about an old family feud, tell the doctors to do everything possible. To go along with that scenario, there are a lot of people who won’t sit down a address those issues…”I’ll do it tomorrow”….

    ====================

    As a patient I agree!

    I have been trying for YEARS to get some sort of ‘living will’ done properly but there are too many obstacles. Hundreds of dumb technical questions … dozens of witnesses wanted for signing … the witnesses cannot be people who are conveniently available because they’re excluded as likely to have conflct of interest … some of them want a notary….

    And that’s years of me being able bodied and getting arouind getting other things done.

    Currently I’m in a nursing home (home tomorrow I hope) recovering from surgery and overheard someone else getting some sensible couneling: “Well, if your heart and breathing have been stopped for X time, then you’re probably badly damaged no matter what caused the stoppage.” I asked that coulselor to visit me also but she didn’t hve time….

  187. HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    SHV, doctors already talk to patients about end-of-life care. Every day.

    =========================

    Really? Where do I find one of those doctors? Mine barely talk about what I want treatment for right now! Nor their nurses, and well, the social worker is off this month….

  188. turndownobama Says:

    July 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
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    See if Advance DirectivesLiving Wills are available. One does need witnesses and a notary, but they are readily available and encouraged in the HMO that I work for. They are necessary, if you want your wishes carried out, and you are not able to make them. Google Advance Directive for more information and forms.

    Get well soon! I hope it wasn’t too serious.

  189. I think the converstion about end of life care is not going to be one of many choices and this this the ugly little secret. You will have very few options.

    option 1) who do you want to turn off the vent, your family, Dr, or the Gov representative

    Sorry, only one option….

  190. Dick Morris said?:

    42% of Canadians with colon cancer die while 31% of Americans, who have access to these two medications, survive the disease.

    ==========================

    Huh? Typo?

    Canada 42 % die — 68% survive
    US 69% die — 31% survive

    Morris is bullshit, even when he’s aiming it at Obama.

  191. When I brought my mother to the ER a few weeks ago, they handed her a living will to sign after her condition was stabilized. They wanted it on record.

    =========================

    Lucky she stablized in a condition able to sign it.

    I hope I manage to get something into my record BEFORE I hit the ER.

  192. Guys, go look at the headline on Drudge! Nancy looks quite alarmed! ROTFLMAO!

    drudgereport.com

  193. THanks, Birdgal!

    I fell off a galloping horse and broke some ribs and a hip. Full hip replacement very successful so far, walking around with minimal use of canes, home tomorrow maybe….!

    Medicare only: local hospital,local nursing home — all wonderful care so far.

  194. Hillary traveling to Africa early next month. (A little break from all the health care posts, lol.)

    state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/july/126522.htm

  195. I’m having a hard time believing it, but I actually agreed with a comment by Robert Zimmerman on Lou Dobbs today.

    They were talking about racial profiling and he said that the real profiling going on in the last few years was “police profiling” by the media et al and it should stop.

  196. Medicare only: local hospital,local nursing home — all wonderful care so far.
    ***********
    Don’t you just hate that “gub-nit” run medical care….horrible and you can’t even be balanced billed for all of the payment denials by an insurance company. Are you ready to burn your Medicare Card???? BTW, it’s worth going to a lawyer and doing “living will” and medical directive, power of atty, etc. correctly.

  197. What I would like to know is why the people on this health care committe, Dodd, Kennedy and etc. have never held real jobs. They have been in the senate since they were young men. THey were born with silver spoons in their mouths, so how do they know about employee based insurance?? THey have never been an employee of a business.
    Where is their experience for this job, oh thats right, there asking the insurance lobbiests for help!
    If they take out the public option, it will be a joke. Its what the stupid republicans wanted. It will be another bailout program, where the middle class will pay for everything. BushIII.

  198. Back to gates-gate. (RGB)

    ADMIN!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE EMBED this very powerful clip of Cowley’s AA colleagues sying they fully support him and will not support BO again.
    now THIS is post-racial!

    http://myprops dot org/content/Cambridge-cops-support-Crowley/

  199. Back to gates-gate. (RGB)

    ADMIN!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE EMBED this very powerful clip of Crowley’s AA colleagues saying they fully support him and will not support BO again.
    Now THIS is post-racial!

    http colon slashslash myprops dot org/content/Cambridge-cops-support-Crowley/

  200. NMF, I would not be surprised if some of the “ONE’s” terrorists friends aren’t buying up all the repo-homes. America is NO more! Insurance for the wealthy, homes for the wealthy, all work going to China, INdonesia and Africa! Does anyone here know a witch doctor, or an herbalist because we poor people will need them.
    Sharia law being recognized in America, Christian ministers swearing their faith to Allah, whats next folks? We will be a third world country by the end of his terms. Hillary won’t have a chance at getting elected, the liberal will be a dirty word for the next 40 years—-Thankyou Nasty Pelosi!

  201. turndownobama Says:
    July 27th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Lucky she stablized in a condition able to sign it.

    I hope I manage to get something into my record BEFORE I hit the ER.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    No, she couldn’t sign it there. That paperwork was to be taken home, signed witnessed and notarized and sent back to them by mail.

    My mother is 72 yrs old.. are you close in age ?

  202. basil9:

    Thanks for posting Crowleys latest clip..

    That clip is DY-NO-MITE! I hope Admin embeds it for you.

    The Brotherhood is backing their man… like I hoped they would!!!

  203. Thanks Basil9. We embedded the clip you provided as well as updated the article by adding the video at the end of the new article.

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