St. James Infirmary

Update: HWC in the comments has provided a very useful video link HERE. The video is located at the right hand column at the link and is an interview with Sergeant Crowley. Crowley answers many questions we have all had about what happened on the day he arrested Henry Gates. The video is about 22 minutes long. Crowley appears to be a very responsible and decent man.

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Race-baiting Barack Obama and his race-baiting friends accused Bll Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Hillary supporters of being racists. Even the many brave African-Americans who dared advertise themselves as for Hillary, and not the Rezko pal from corrupt Chicago, were assaulted unfairly as “racists”. Hillary supporters know how outrageous the charge of “racism” is.

As we pointed out yesterday, there was an African-American cop police officer at the scene of the Gates arrest. What does that black cop law enforcement officer say?

A black police officer who was at Henry Louis Gates Jr.’s home when the black Harvard scholar was arrested says he fully supports how his white fellow officer handled the situation.

Sgt. Leon Lashley says Gates was probably tired and surprised when Sgt. James Crowley demanded identification from him as officers investigated a report of a burglary. Lashley says Gates’ reaction to Crowley was “a little bit stranger than it should have been.”

Asked if Gates should have been arrested, Lashley said supported Crowley “100 percent.”

Gates has said he was the victim of racial profiling.

President Barack Obama says the officers “acted stupidly.” Lashley called Obama’s remark “unfortunate” and said he should be allowed to take it back.

Officer Crowley teaches racial profiling at the Lowell Police Academy. Crowley was personally selected by the African-American (former) police chief, Commissioner Ronny Watson, to teach the course on racial profiling. But now Crowley has been accused of being a racist. How is Crowley going to continue to teach that course now that the mighty Henry Gates of Harvard University has called him a racist (aided and abetted by race-baiting Barack Obama)?

Where will Hillary supporters Crowley go to get back his good name and repudiate the charge of racism? We hope he files a defamation of character lawsuit against Harvard’s Henry Gates. We hope for a full investigation of this incident.

Crowley has been trashed by Obama and his race-baiting friends. The reprehensible Michael Kinsley in today’s Washington Post praises Henry Gates as credible and makes the absurd claim that Gates “nobly but unconvincingly frames his anger in nonracial terms”. Really? Gates is “noble” and “nonracial”?

“It is the fault of the policemen who couldn’t stand a black man standing up for his rights, right in his face,” Gates said on CNN.

It appears that Gates is confirming that he was “in his face” and it is Gates who is not so “noble” but rather attacking Crowley in very ugly race-baiting and very racial terms.

Perhaps Kinsley will run away from his stupid remarks in defense of Henry Gates in the same way that Obama is running away from his own “stupid” remarks.

There are Left Talker attorneys who think Obama is “brilliant” and that being “black” is somehow exempt from common sense when dealing with authority and especially when interacting with a police officer who is responding to a report of breaking and entering. For these Left Talkers it is enough to hear “racism” and the Pavlov response is immediate.

Left Talkers who think Obama is brilliant, who surrendered to Big Media and said “vote for the Media darling” along with assorted race-baiters ignore the class ramifications of their Obama world.

Left Talkers who trashed Sarah Palin and laughed as David Letterman made clear class based attacks on Palin as a “slutty” stewardess type will take sides with their arrogant brethren rather than with a lowly working class cop.

Gates includes among his friends the Mayor of Cambridge (who is black), the Governor of Massachusetts (who is black), a well known thug from Chicago who occupies a white house (who is black) and the entire faculty of Cambridge’s Harvard University. But he is black so the Left Talkers immediately take his side and ignore that the entire power establishment of Cambridge are also black and friends of Gates.

Gates, unlike the poor or middle class, had the entirely justifiable charges against him dropped almost immediately without so much as a hearing. Does that happen to anyone but the best connected in the United States?

We certainly are not saying that police power and the abuse of same is not a problem. Indeed, the abuse of police power is extremely frightening. Abusive police, racist officers are a very real problem. What is disgusting however is that a poor or middle class person without connections who falls victim to a problem cop does not have the resources and power of the powerful Henry Gates and will now have genuine claims of racism devalued because of the false claim by Henry Gates. If there has been an abuse of power it is from Gates and his high powered friends, like Barack Obama who dares to speak without knowledge of the facts.

Americans can recall when Mayor Rudolf Giuliani of New York would automatically defend the police and deride the defendants in controversial incidents. How the defense bar of lawyers would howl and denounce the Mayor for talking sides or tainting ongoing investigations. It was right to denounce Giuliani for using his megaphone as the Mayor to prejudge an investigation. It is right to denounce Obama too.

Barack Obama, like Henry Gates, spattered race into a situation which reeks of class “you don’t know who you are messing with” arrogance. Prepare for lectures by the Hopium addled on how this is all code language for calling Gates “an uppity negro” because we all know that it is 100% impossible for black people to be arrogant. Black people, like Hillary supporters can be “racist” if they don’t support Obama but black people, even Ivy League Mussolini-types like Barack Obama and Henry “you don’t know who I am” Gates can never be arrogant.

Another line of defense by the Hopium addled is that the cop, Crowley, should have walked away because he eventually found out that Gates was indeed the resident of the house he had just broken into. This line of defense means that if you are in the right you have permission to insult law enforcement officials. Imagine that lovely world with people who are not committing crimes able to insult and denounce and ridicule police at will. If you are innocent of violating the law but a cop comes to your house on a call, or stops you for whatever reason you then have the right to call him/her a racist or insult their mothers or whatever simply because you have not violated any law.

Al Sharpton race-baited on the Tawana Brawley case. The race-baiting by Al Sharpton diluted the genuine claims by others who have indeed been made the victims of police misconduct if not outright racism.

Henry Gates shouted “racism” while abusing a police officer. The fake Gates “racism” cry now hurt the poor and the powerless who are genuine victims of police misconduct or genuine police racism.

Barack Obama proved once again he will race-bait.

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Obama is so so brilliant we are told by Left Talkers and the Hopium addled. He was not so brilliant in his most recent publicity stunt however.

Does anyone remember health care, or rather, health insurance? Obama is no longer alleging he is concerned about health care reform, now it is only about health insurance reform.

Obama killed his own publicity stunt message on health care.

Health care itself can be located at Saint James Infirmary – at the mortuary slab.



Don’t blame Republicans for this rigor mortis:

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders. [snip]

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said.

Although those Blue Dogs were supposed to be headed back into another meeting of the Energy and Commerce Democrats, their anger was visible.

If the two sides cannot reach an agreement, the only hope for passage of the bill in the House will be to go straight to the floor, an option leaders shied away from endorsing but said was an option.

But the Blue Dogs issued dire warnings to leaders contemplating that approach.

“Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus. And Melancon said there are more Democrats who will vote against the bill.

If they try to bring it to the floor, I think they’ll find out they have more problems than the Blue Dogs.”

On Wednesday Obama held a nationally televised publicity stunt and on Thursday he scheduled another publicity stunt “town hall”. Also on Thursday the Dimocrats in the Senate gave Obama a massive slap in the face as they told him “see ya later”.

Senate Democratic leaders on Thursday abandoned plans for a vote on health care before Congress’ August recess, dealing a blow to President Barack Obama’s ambitious timetable to revamp the nation’s $2.4 trillion system of medical care.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., delivered the official pronouncement on what had been expected for weeks, saying, “It’s better to have a product based on quality and thoughtfulness rather than try to jam something through.”

His words were a near-echo of Republicans who have criticized the rush to act on complex legislation that affects every American.



It is very likely that the August long delay, and the issuance of new economic reports will kill the Obama “reforms”. It is very likely that when constituents get to express their hostility towards the Obama “reform” to their elected officials during the August vacation the Obama “reform” will be killed.

It’s a mercy killing.

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256 thoughts on “St. James Infirmary

  1. The public needs to hear the 911 call and the police radio recordings…that will probably stop a lot of people in their tracks…and then it will be interesting to see what the Left Talkers and Kinsleys have to say…and how they spin the racism projected onto Crowley…

  2. I would bet my last dollar that question was planted.

    Admin, as usual very thorough. Gates also has a close friend names Oprah…

  3. gonzotx, I heard that Axelrod asked Lynn Sweet to ask the question at the end of the presser…tonight John McLaughlin also thought it might have been a plant to create a distraction…

    …but the bottom line it has backfired big time and brought O down quite a few notches…he looks biased, reckless and UNPRESIDENTIAL…

    the guy is so overexposed sooner or later everyone will be turning the channel when he comes on…oh him, big deal!

  4. President Barack Obama says the officers “acted stupidly.” Lashley called Obama’s remark “unfortunate” and said he should be allowed to take it back.

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    Amazing Sgt Lashley, who had first hand knowledge of the situation shows more intelligency and tact, actually really quite Presidental in his remarks, then the man the Kook Aid People elected.

  5. Found @ NQ. REally funny video by Chris Rock on “How not to get your As* beat by a cop”, need to send it to gates…
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    youtube.com/watch?v=LWGCIm4GNQE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enoquarterusa%2Enet%2Fblog%2F&feature=player_embedded

  6. I don’t know any President who has come in with more pluses, more excused errors, more blind eye worship, than O, and he really had blown it. I don’t think this blog could have imagined that he could have done this poorly. Yes, he exhibited all of these flaws during the election. Much of it was excused, hidden, justified, you name it they did it for him.

    But now, he stands alone. He does not have competition, as he won the gold ring, and he really does not know how to act, and what to do with it. He had a soft idea about how to deal with friends and enamies, and it really does not work. It is human nature not to work. He does not lead, he has news conferences with telepromters during prime time. When he speaks off the cuff, he screws up. He does not respond to international situations, he votes present. They justified that during the election, but that does not work when you are President.

    How can you expect him to put together legislation, and work it through congress. The bills with his name on them in Illinois, really had other names on it to begin with, and a person twisting arms in front of him.

    Here, the legislation was not put to gether by him, not undestood by him, not even an executive summary does he seem to know or understand on the key points.

    All of this was so predictable. Someone should pay for this mistake, and we all know that it will not be O. He never is responsible, he never makes a mistake, and he is not accountable for anything.

  7. Juan Williams is making sense in this video. He recounts cops coming to his house when the alarm has gone off and that he immediately provides ID and the cops search his house in order to make sure that there is no one else in the house forcing him to make statements.
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    That is standard procedure. I had similar situation as Juan; Wife and I get home late after a trip…front door stuck, alarm goes off, couldn’t answer the alarm service phone call. Finally get in the house and the police show up. Wife and I in the house with luggage…Police are polite but wary..want to see ID and then ask to inspect the house. That last part is “iify” and I guess I could have said no and started “sh*t but they wanted to make sure that there wasn’t a hostage situation in the house. The police are uptight with domestic calls, B&E and traffic stops and for good reason. To give them sh*t when they are doing their job and worried about being shot is really stupid or meant to cause an incident.

  8. Bravo, admin.

    BTW, you may get your wish. Crowley is considering a defamation lawsuit:

    jonathanturley.org/2009/07/24/report-sgt-crowley-considering-defamation-lawsuit-in-gates-controversy/

  9. All of this was so predictable.
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    True but I never dreamed that he would be this bad. I had assumed that his handlers would be doing a better job. His handlers may be incompetent or Obama’s aggressive narcissism won’t allow him to be handled, either way the wheels are coming off the Obama Presidency.

  10. HWC, we had trouble accessing your link. We found this link with the video at the right hand column which is easier to access (for those having trouble with HWC’s link).

    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO119845/

    It’s a very illuminating video. Lot’s of good detail.

    Text of the accompanying article which answers the question about the “go outside” statement by Crowley and the uncooperative stance of Gates which made Crowley suspicous:

    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO119845/

    Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley defended his actions during the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. in a one-on-one interview with 7News.

    Along with other officers, Crowley arrived at Gates’ home responding to a report of a robbery.

    Gates was arrested after forcing his way into his own house in what he and other blacks say was an outrageous but all-too-common example of how police treat them.

    “I said ‘Hi, Sgt. Crowley from the Cambridge police department, would you mind stepping out and talking to me?’ (Gates) said, ‘No I will not,’ in a very loud tone; an agitated tone.”

    Crowley said he was just doing his job by investigating a robbery in the area, but Gates put up a fight.

    “I was radioing in his name to our dispatcher so they could record it,” said Crowley. “As I did that, he was continuing his rant about that I was doing this because he was a black man in America, that I was a racist, and to the point that as I was reading his name off my identification card, I couldn’t hear myself say it; he was yelling that loud.”

    Crowley was concerned there may have been a second man on the property. The original 911 call described two black men breaking into Gates’ home.

    “I then asked him if there was anybody else in the residence. And my reason for asking that is two-fold: first of all, there was a report that there were two individuals,” said Crowley. “I see one, and it could be him, so where’s the second person. Or, there are two people in the residence that he doesn’t know are there. Either way, I wasn’t expecting his response, which was: ‘That’s none of your business.’ To me, that’s a strange response for someone that has nothing to hide.”

    Commissioner Robert Haas said he deeply regrets the situation and plans for an independent panel to investigate what lessons ought to be learned from the arrest of Gates, even though he’s convinced Sgt. Crowley did nothing wrong.

    “I don’t believe Sgt. Crowley acted with any racial motivation at all,” said Haas. “I believe he assessed the situation, he tried to de-escalate the situation and made a determination that the only way to stop the situation was to make an arrest.”

    Crowley further defended his actions.

    “(Gates) was the one that was being provocative,” said Crowley. “This wasn’t a back and forth exchange of banter or arguing. This was one-sided. I think there is a picture in one of the local newspapers where he’s already in handcuffs, you can see I’m in the background asking him to calm down and relax.”

    Gates, who returned to his summer home on Martha’s Vineyard, said “it’s time to move on to another story. Barack said it all.”

    President Obama commented on the Gates arrest during a primetime news conference Wednesday.

    “The Cambridge police acted stupidly,” said President Obama.

    After a White House spokesman tried to spin back the president’s word, President Obama said, “I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement because it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don’t need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who’s in his own home.”

    For five of the past six years, Crowley also has volunteered alongside a black colleague in teaching 60 cadets per year about how to avoid targeting suspects merely because of their race, and how to respond to an array of scenarios they might encounter on the beat.

  11. HWC, that video is really good. Thanks much. We’ll update the article with the video later because it is that good. Crowley answers a great many questions and comes off very good. If any part of what he states is corraborated, Gates/Obama are in trouble.

  12. Gates, who returned to his summer home on Martha’s Vineyard, said “it’s time to move on to another story. Barack said it all.”

    Ooooo, well aren’t we just dripping with arrogance from Martha’s Vineyard, making a none-too-subtle point that we are, after all, on a first name basis with the President.

  13. Thanks for fixing the link. I find this police officer highly credible. There was racism alright… racism on the part of Prof. Gates. I just wish Crowley had walked to the car and left Gates ranting and raving on his porch, but if I verbally abused a policeman like that, I’d be sitting in the back of a squad car faster than you can say “talk to your momma outside”.

    It actually would be a great time to rob Gates’s blind. You could spend all day in his house and the Cambridge police aren’t going to respond to a burglary call at that address.

  14. HillaryForTexas, Barack will be in Martha’s Vineyard next month. Maybe he will join Gates for some fishing and race-baiting.

  15. Too funny! The Blatherer in Chief has given 4 times as many interviews as Bill Clinton, but has answered less than 1/5 the total questions:

    In their first four months, Mr. Clinton gave 11 interviews and Mr. Bush gave 18, compared with 43 by Mr. Obama, according to Martha Joynt Kumar, a presidential communications scholar at Towson State University.
    Mr. Clinton answered questions 158 times this way in his first six months, compared with Mr. Obama’s 30.

    nytimes.com/2009/07/24/us/politics/24memo.html?ref=politics

  16. HWC, we updated the article at the top with the video link. It is very good and we highly recommend everyone watch it. Maybe there is a transcript available and if there is we will post that too.

    You are right that Crowley is very credible. His version of events is very lucid and filled with details which will be very easy to confirm (the woman that made the call is a witness and the reports that Crowley spoke to his station with his walkie talkie appear to be accurate and the yelling of Gates should be easy to hear).

    It is also clear that Crowley has been damaged, his reputation has been damaged and Crowley makes a strong case as to how his reputation is damaged. We smell lawsuit.

  17. admin, yes, his answers were better as well as more numerous.

    *sigh* I love me some Big Dawg.

  18. Well, Bill could always find his point, with precision. Hell, even Bush could find a point so long as it was kept very very simple. Obama just wanders around in search of one.

  19. “How is Crowley going to continue to teach that course now that the mighty Henry Gates of Harvard University has called him a racist (aided and abetted by race-baiting Barack Obama)?”

    “Where will Hillary supporters Crowley go to get back his good name and repudiate the charge of racism? We hope he files a defamation of character lawsuit against Harvard’s Henry Gates. We hope for a full investigation of this incident.”

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    Crowley has got to go all the way with this in a lawsuit. Tonight, Maher is siding with Gates on his program. yammering idjit.

    ” (the woman that made the call is a witness and the reports that Crowley spoke to his station with his walkie talkie appear to be accurate and the yelling of Gates should be easy to hear).”

    Yes, I’m reading Crowley opened the mic tacked onto his shoulder to the station and they have Gates ranting and raving on police tape.

  20. I know someone who worked on Gates’ PBS show – and he says Gates is one of the biggest prima donnas he’s ever worked with. Actually, he used the word “asshole” to describe him. I think that kind of prima donna attitude is quite common to major university professors. Especially those who have TV shows and are regularly published. Everyone kisses their ass. Other faculty does. Students stumble over themselves to be in their classes (so they can tell their parents that they’re studying with a professor you can see on TV!) So when someone comes up who isn’t kissing his ass – Gates throws a hissy fit and uses the race card, which he knows is a very powerful weapon. I have no doubt that Gates is a spoiled brat.

    I find the claims that the police were racially profiling to be silly. The cop wasn’t driving by and decided to pick on the black man. A neighbor called in a burglary and the cop was responding to the complaint – that is his job! Gates’ beef should be with his neighbors, not with the cop who is responding to a 911 call. The cop was doing his job. And it is also the cop’s job to not only check the ID of the person accused of breaking in – but they have to investigate the possibility that the person in question (whose drivers’ license has the correct address) is not an angry ex-husband whose wife changed the locks and has a restraining order. The cops have to search the house to make sure there’s no one locked up in there. It’s all part of the procedure. The procedure was not created to annoy Gates, it was created to protect the innocent. But Gates is a prima donna.

  21. Crowley makes a strong case as to how his reputation is damaged.
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    It will depend what the Mass. law on slander is. In my state, actual monetary damages have to have occurred to the slandered person, before a lawsuit can be filed.

  22. SHV, here is Jonathan Turley on a possible defamation suit:

    http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/24/report-sgt-crowley-considering-defamation-lawsuit-in-gates-controversy/

    Cambridge Police Sergeant James M. Crowley is considering a defamation lawsuit, according to his lawyer. [snip]

    Crowley has spent the last five years teaching the avoidance of racial profiling at the police academy and has an impeccable record, here.

    A defamation lawsuit would raise some novel issues. There is no question that the suggestion that Crowley acted with racial prejudice is injurious to his professional standing, particularly given his status as an expert on combating profiling. Impugning the professional integrity of another is a per se category of defamation for slander. Indeed, such profiling can be a criminal act — another category of per se defamation. A court would likely treat this as a case of per quod defamation where extrinsic facts are needed to establish the defamatory content.

    There is little chance for a lawsuit against Obama who was expressing his opinion on a public controversy. He did not expressly name Crowley (which is not a barrier to recovery but makes the case more complex) and he did not expressly say that it was racially motivated. He stated his concern that it might be racially motivated.

    Gates is a different matter entirely. He currently made such allegations of abuse and racism. Crowley is not technically a public figure or limited public figure simply because he is involved in a public controversy. His status as a police officer may not be enough to make him a public official under New York Times v. Sullivan. If treated as an average citizen, he would not have to satisfy the high standard of actual malice and show either reckless disregard of the truth or knowing falsity. The Court further defined the meaning of a public official in Rosenblatt v. Baer (1966) as “those among the hierarchy of government employers who have, or appear to the public to have, substantial responsibility for or control over the conduct of governmental affairs.” But does this include rank-and-file police officers? Some courts have said yes, here and here.

    The Supreme Court has clearly identified the seeking of public office as a common element in establishing public official status — as indicated in Gertz v. Robert Welch (1974) when the Court noted “An individual who decides to seek governmental office must accept certain necessary consequences of that involvement in public affairs. He runs the risk of closer public scrutiny than might otherwise be the case.” Moreover, the Court ruled out that mere public employment is not sufficient to establish this status. In Hutchinson v. Proxmire (1979), leaving it to “the trial judge in the first instance to determine whether the proofs show [the plaintiff] to be a ‘public official.’”

    Three years after New York Times v. Sullivan, the Court greatly expanded the reach of the constitutional defamation standard in Curtis Publishing Co. v. Butts by saying that the actual malice standard applied to “public figures” as well as public officials. In Curtis, the Court described public figures as private individuals who may help shape events and views of society and “play an influential role in order society.”

    There is no question that Crowley is now a public figure due to his media statements, but that does not mean that he was a public figure at the time of the statements by Gates, Sharpton, and others. As was held in Foretich v. ABC against my former client Eric Foretich, even a brief media appearance can convert an average citizens into a public figure as someone seeking public attention. Crowley, however, did not make public statements until after the original claims of racism and profiling.

    Lawsuits by police officer and fire fighters have long been controversial in and of themselves. For example, under common law torts, the Fireman’s Rule barred officers from claiming the more protective status of invitees in injuries that occurred in homes. However, the common law has never limited the right of officers to bring defamation claims. Indeed, Rev. Al Sharpton (who has also intervened in this controversy with claims of racism) was found guilty of defamation of prosecutor Steven A. Pagones in the infamous case of Tawana Brawley. Notably, police officers were also defamed in that case, but the most likely litigant Harry Crist Jr. former Fishkill, NY, police officer, committed suicide after being subject to the vicious and false statements. Crowley can make the same type of allegations as in the Brawley case. Of course, the Brawley case involved allegations of the physical abuse of a young girl for racial reasons — a far more specific and clearly criminal allegation.

    Gates could argue that this was merely an opinion uttered in the heat of the moment. However, the allegation continued to be made after the arrest and courts have rejected the use of the opinion defense when it is based on the assertion of a defamatory fact like racist motives.

    If Crowley can avoid public official or public figure status, he could have a case. It would allow him to conduct discovery with depositions of Gates and others — a great temptation for Crowley and his allies.

    There are strong public policy reasons for including police officers in the category of public officials because their actions are routinely subject to public review and scrutiny — and they hold considerable power over citizens. If he is found to be a public official, however, it becomes tougher but not impossible. He could still argue that Gates knew his allegation was false or had reckless disregard of the truth. However, Gates would argue that this was his view of the events and there is no objective means to prove one’s motivation. Moreover, Gates could argue that a ruling in favor of Crowley would expose any citizens to lawsuits by police when they allege racist motivations or actions.

  23. Admin. ..thanks for the link…I think it still depends on the state law. Again in my state, the state supreme court ruled that monetary damages have had to occur. There ruling was designed to keep “personal pi**ing contests out of the courts”…

  24. SHV, agreed. The Turley article focuses too much on the question of whether or not the “public figure” threashold is met.

    The reason why we “smell a lawsuit” is the remarks by Crowley in the interview which reference damages to him as an instructor and a coach. It appears to us that there is an awareness of the legal standards required by law in order to initiate a suit. It appears to us, totally our opinion, that Crowley had a very good talk with his lawyer before this appearance.

    Very soon there will be some substantive articles on the state law requirements for defamation suits in Massachusetts.

  25. On the interview stats:

    That’s around 10 TV interviews a month, or 2.5 per week. Between prep and shooting time, those things take hours.

    WHEN the hell does this man WORK?

  26. great work and info from everybody…thanks to all…

    just thinking of this pompus Gates demanding the apology and saying then he will teach Crowley about racism and there he is on TV speaking to a young black audience of young men and women and Gates going on about “it not being about him, but all the vulnerable young black men and women and the poor” (yeah, right, as he protitutes himself promoting a new documentary)

    …what a self serving arrogant man…those recordings may well be explosive…they must be released to the public…that is frankly the only way to shut up Crowley’s critics because the diehards are still at it…

    …noticed that Gates is being quoted as saying he has accepted the invite to the beer at WH…I hope Crowley does not allow himself to be used in that setting…because it seems as if Obama and Gates are trying to manipulate the situation to suggest that Crowley still has some ‘teachable moment’

  27. The photographer speaks too. He contradicts Gates’ original claim that he did not scream because he had a throat condition which did not allow him to yell:

    http://www.thebostonchannel.com/education/20143900/detail.html

    Gates, one of the nation’s pre-eminent black scholars and the director of Harvard University’s W.E.B. DuBois Institute for African and African American Research, said Crowley owes him an apology.

    “He should look into his heart and know that he is not telling the truth and he should beg my forgiveness,” Gates said in an interview on Tuesday night.

    Bill Carter, the man who snapped a photograph of Gates being led away in handcuffs, said police officers were calm and that Gates was “slightly out of control” and “agitated” when he was arrested.

    “The officers around kind of calmed him down,” Carter said. “I heard him yelling — Mr. Gates yelling. I didn’t hear anything that he was saying so I couldn’t say that he was belligerent.”

  28. http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090722henry_louis_gates_demands_apology_sensitivity_training/srvc=home&position=also

    Meanwhile, in online interviews, Gates said that claims that he was publicly yelling at Sgt. Crowley are false, and that with a bronchial infection, he was not capable of shouting, a claim repeated to the Herald by Ogletree. Crowley’s report said Gates had refused to show his ID, which Gates also has denied.

    A 55-year-old neighbor who said he witnessed the incident but declined to give his name, however, said that Gates was in fact yelling loudly, as indicated by a photo taken by another neighbor.

    When police asked him for ID, Gates started yelling, ‘I’m a Harvard professor . . . You believe white women over black men. This is racial profiling.’ ”

    “The police did their job,” said the neighbor. “He should be thanking them. But they shouldn’t have arrested him. He had just gotten off a 20-hour flight. He couldn’t get his door open. He got frustrated . . . They should have just said forget it.”

  29. I just read on Yahoo news that POTUS will be vacationing next month in Martha’s Vineyard. He will be staying at a 20 million estate fully equiped with pool and basketball court and golf tee. The article says he will be paying for it himself. I guess we will pay for all those secret service guys to be there also. Hmmm, he sure knows how to spend China’s money.

  30. Admin: here is a little tribute I wrote to commemorate Obamas six month anniversary, lest the entire event go unnoticed:
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    DECONSTRUCTING MR. OBAMA

    1. Overview: today marks the sixth month anniversary of the Obama Miracle. Where are we? The economy continues to deteriorate. Job losses have not abated. And he says he inherited the problem. To a degree he is right. Yet he continues to spend trillions we do not have on programs that constitute the greatest wealth transfer in history. He mortgages our future and fails to produce jobs. Be patient he says. And in the meantime, he hints at a second stimulus. Why? Because he underestimated how bad the situation was–like everyone else. Not true. Most experts called it right. He called it wrong and he knows it. Yet he proposes to spend trillions more, with CAP and Trade and UHC. On the foreign policy front he tells us bombastically that we need change. Again, there is some truth to what he says. But when he apologizes for America to the country that gave us Auschwitz, and Treblinka he goes too far. He repeats that theme when he visits other countries. He elevates himself at the expense of America. On what meat doth Caesar feed that he has grown so great? He calls for change in the Middle East, and when people in Iran rise up in response to a regime that promotes terrorism and threatens to annihilate our ally once it acquires the bomb he becomes the dog that did not bark. Yes, it has been a remarkable, historical, intergalactic six months.

    Not surprisingly, his poll numbers have started to drop. Conservatives see how he has used his imperial presidency and control of Congress to transform our system of representative government and free enterprise into a system of centralized control and state capitalism. They worry that he will become a dictator. Thinking liberals are outraged at how he has betrayed the campaign promises he made to them as a candidate with respect to FISA, public funding of elections, expanded the war in Afghanistan, etc. They now worry that he will become Bush III. Independents deplore his incompetence. They worry that he will turn a recession into a depression, undermine national sovereignty and compromise our security. The only ones who are not worried are Big Media and his hopium addled supporters. They continue to carry the torch for him because they are both part of his coalition. To many people, Obama remains a riddle, a conundrum, a human question mark. How does a man with a missing past, a thin resume and a phantom voting record rise so quickly through the political power structure, garner astronomical sums of campaign money and be gifted the presidency? Why does Big Media prostitute itself to promote this fraud? Do you really believe it is because he is black, went to Harvard Law School, lectured on Constitutional Law and can read through a teleprompter? Do you??? Think about it. There is no precedent for this in our history! Thus, it is time to revisit the same questions which were asked but never answered during the campaign: who is he, what does he represent, and where pray tell is he taking our country? Now more than ever, we need the truth.

    2. The Real Obama: if you examine the record as a whole, the answer becomes obvious: Obama is an agent of the Chicago Machine aka “The Chicago Way”; this machine is a government-business- big media cartel; its strategic objective is to monopolize economic and political activity within a geographic sphere; it is tied to the “new economy”; it engineered a hostile take-over of the Democratic Party with the support of global money, left wing interest groups and the repayment of an ancient debt owed to it by the Kennedy family since the 1960 election; it rigged the primary and the general election through the DNC and ACORN; the immediate goal is to expand its power base nation-wide and establish a de facto unitary executive, one party rule and reduce the Constitution to a hollow shibboleth; its ultimate aim is to leverage the power of our government to help it seize economic opportunities here and around the globe, e.g. Africa since trade follows the flag; it created “brand Obama” to break down racial, cultural and ideological barriers to its expansion; it markets that brand aggressively through junk politics, celebrity culture, and subliminal messaging; it engages in the programmatic destruction of opponents through Alinsky methods on the ground, in controlled media and over the internet; it is using the present economic crisis, which is quite real, as a pretext to consolidate its power; it does this at the expense of representative democracy, personal liberty, private enterprise and the survival of the middle class. In the final analysis, it is as simple as this: if Mr. Obama succeeds our nation is likely to fail.

    3. The Circumstantial Proof: that, I submit, is the explanation for the meteoric rise of Mr. Obama to the presidency. It reconciles every contradiction between what he says and what he does, in ways that conservative or liberal labels simply cannot do. And, most important, it provides a template for how he will govern the country. There is no need to speculate on the subject. The evidence is clear and unambiguous. If you merely examine: i) his career path, ii) his inner circle, iii) the government-business-media cartel that supports him, iv) the programmatic destruction of adversaries, v) his intimation of permanent power and, above all, vi) the structural changes he has made to our government in the first six months of his presidency, and compare all that to the modus operandi of the Chicago Machine as described below, then the conclusion becomes obvious: Obama is The Chicago Way. Most people did not realize this before because they were too bamboozled by the issue of race. As a result, progressives were hoodwinked into supporting a big city machine politician; blacks were seduced into voting for a candidate whose ancestors were slave traders; and the only ones who made out were well heeled and well connected insiders. Where is the hope and change in that scenario?

    4. The Chicago Way: aka The Daley Machine is an aberrant form of government which operates in the fine tradition of Tammany Hall. It relies upon a strong mayor, i.e. boss, a rubber stamp city council and an army of ward bosses and precinct captains who turn out blocks of votes on Election Day. The system functions on the basis of quid pro quo, as opposed to issue oriented politics. As such, it is the bete noire of progressive reform. Under this system, the Machine provides no- bid government contracts, government jobs, and special assistance in disputes before public officials, e.g. judges, policemen and inspectors. The beneficiaries then respond by delivering votes, campaign contributions and graft.

    This is of course against the law, but the Machine ensures that the law is more honored in the breach than in the observance. These corrupt practices are never prosecuted in the City of Chicago or Cook County. The U.S. Attorney’s Office is the only avenue of relief but as soon as someone like the Mayor’s “patronage chief” Robert Sorich is convicted and sent to reform school, another apparatchik rises to take his place. The Mayor was never touched, despite the RICO implications. In some respects this is the world of don Vito Coroleone. Whoever plays in that system is part of that system. There are no virgins in the whorehouse. If you step outside the system or challenge it they will destroy you through blackmail, bribes and/or violence.

    From a political standpoint, the Daley Machine is the only game in town. The last Republican Mayor Big Bill left office in 1931. Daley’s father served from 1956 to 1976 and died in office. Daley himself has served from 1989 to the present. His City Council supports the Mayor 90 percent of the time. The Machine is active in elections and crushes the opposition. In 2003, all but five of the fifty incumbents were re-elected, most with landslide support, and those who lost received tepid support. At the same time, ward bosses won in mostly uncontested elections. There is no effective political competition.

    The business beneficiaries of the Daley system are developers, city contractors, construction unions, real estate firms, bankers, lawyers, international manufacturing firms, and last but surely not least “major” contributors from the new global economy”. “The Goose Lake Group” which includes the heiress to Hyatt is at the center. Chicago bills itself as the mid-west capital of the global economy and plans to host the 2016 Olympics. Most tourist, convention, and major development decisions are made behind closed doors with little public input” and private sector influence. Yes, it works well for the wealthy thank you. But how well does it work for the rest of the population?

    This system has a perverse effect on low income people. For example, poverty in Chicago is growing. Today, 21% of the population is poor and that is up 114.5% since 1980. There has been a shrinkage in affordable housing. An estimated 30% of renters pay half their income or more for rent. The Machine initiated the largest Public Housing Re-development Program in the nation to promote gentrification. Many low income people were displaced, but now the Public housing they were promised has no materialized due to the economy. Nevertheless, builders have been enriched. Chicago has become the “National Capital of Police Repression”. CNN reported that between 2002 and 2004, citizens filed 10,000 complaints of police brutality few of which were ever investigated. As Daley’s father so eloquently put it, “the police are not there to create disorder. They are there to preserve it.” Finally, public education is being destroyed through privatization. Inner city schools are being closed. Those that remain open are neglected or decrepit. Classroom sizes are increasing. (Source: lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net http://sjlendman.blogspot.com )

    5. Portability: Obama is not the first politician to be sired by a big city machine. Harry Truman had a similar baptism under fire with the Prendergast Machine. But he did not take them with him when he went to Washington DC. What about Barack? Well, he took them along and now they are there too. After all, what are friends for?

    The White House Chief of Staff is Rhaum Emanuel. He will get a fine supporting role when the Bloggavich case makes it to trial or so I am told. The Special Assistant to the President is Valerie Jarret. She was head of the infamous Grove Park Project which bilked taxpayers. The First Lady of Hate is there. She got a nice little bump in salary when Obama became senator, from $175,000 to $400,000. I know she is good but where else but Chicago does a Hospital Administrator make that kind of money. And then there is Axelrod. Yup, Chicago Machine operatives are now embedded in the White House. In the words of that barracks ballad of the First World War: how ya gonna keep em down on the farm after they’ve seen DC? And what a wonderful launching pad to take the Machine national, not that it would ever enter their mind.

    Since taking office, Obama has done certain things which undermine the separation of powers, and hearken back to the unitary system of government which exists in Chicago. These include his installation of 33 Czars to preside over all aspects of economy with no congressional oversight which drew strong rebuke by the ranking member of the Senate Robert Byrd. His claim that he can temporarily bypass Senate ratification of treaties provided for in Article I. He statement that he will be in the presidency 14 years from now despite the Twenty-Second Amendment limit of two terms. His stated intention to raise a standing army equal to the Armed Forces.

    In Federalist Paper No. 47, James Madison explained the importance of the Separation of Powers in terms that even a Senior Lecturer of Constitutional Law and former editor of the Harvard Law Review should be able to understand: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. . . the preservation of liberty requires that the three great departments of power should be separate and distinct.” (January 30, 1787).

  31. THose of you that have been following POTUS’s for many I have a question. Obama seems to have 3 personal assistants. Reggie Love, Katie Johnson and Eugene Kang, is this normal? I do remember Hillary having a personal assistant, but I thought she was the only one. Why would you need three?? Reggie Love seems to be the most prominent one though.

  32. I just wondered if this whole controversy has been pushed by the adminstration just to take the news of the failure of Obama to get the HC vote. Afterall, it was just the beginning of the week when the pundits were saying he was dead in the water if he did not get this bill thru. hmmmm.

  33. Hilarious

    An escort who was hired by Eliot Spitzer claims to have worked with another married governor as another gubernatorial sex scandal may be looming. Even as South Carolina’s Mark Sanford waits to see whether his wife, Jenny, forgives his romp in the pampas, a New York call girl could plunge one of America’s most prominent governors into a fresh hell.

    The elegant blond courtesan, whom we’ll continue to call “Annie,” is talking about three “dates” she allegedly had with another state’s chief executive, who we’ll call Gov. X.

    The same call girl said Spitzer choked her during rough sex, a charge the former New York governor’s lawyer called “outrageous and defamatory.”

    According to the escort, this mysterious other governor has a wife who “is quite prominent in her own right.” Her madam corroborates the account; his spokesman has denied it.

    Who is it…..well the blogs all seem to be hinting at Gov Rendell, who’s wife is a Federal judge.

    Jesus, if you’re a Pol, keep it zipped up because these girls will do anything to make a buck.

  34. admin: It is very likely that when constituents get to express their hostility towards the Obama “reform” to their elected officials during the August vacation the Obama “reform” will be killed.

    It’s a mercy killing.
    =================
    Your comment may just keep a smile on my face for this whole, livelong day.

    BTW, I”m not clear on when or where Chelsea marries. Sure hope not to find out that O’s attended.

  35. Admin,

    I LOVE that cartoon!

    My cop story.

    A couple of years ago I was driving to a local park, my binoculars around my neck, to go birdwatching with my old bichon who had just had 14 teeth pulled and was wearing a pink no-scratch collar.

    The park was only a couple of miles away and it was 9AM on a Sunday morning.

    I got pulled over in a well-known cop-trap (where they fulfull their daily quotas) and I wasn’t in a good mood.

    Turns out my registration had lapsed coz motor vehicle hadn’t sent me a renewal notice and it had slipped my mind.

    I tried explaining that to the cop but he was a POS and wanted a trophy ticket.

    So I got snippy and asked for his name and badge number.

    He didn’t like that. Next thing I knew, he said he was impounding my car and asked if I wanted to walk home or did I want him to call a taxi?

    I was FURIOUS but there wasn’t a d@mn thing I could do about it. Plus I had a lot of musical equipment in the trunk which I had to take with me.

    He could easily have let me off with a warning and insist I go to DMV the next day and allow me to drive home, at least, but I had challenged his authority and he had a point to prove.

    The POS was obviously enjoying every second of my discomfort but I didn’t swear and hop up and down and yell and scream like Gates. I simply told him I would report him to his commanding officer, which I did, the next day, after I’d gotten my car back.

    Point is, EVERYONE has a cop story and it’s NOT about RACE! Most of the time it’s about ego.

  36. My Favorite Cop Story

    I have had my number of tickets, and usually I just pull over, keep my mouth shut, call them Sir and provide my ID and anything else they want.

    However, my significant other has a habit of not attaching his seat belt. I remind him, but many times I just forget. Of course I find that frustrating, as I think we all need to use our seat belts. Recently, while running down the street, one we frequent, where we really know they set up a place to check for seat belts, we got pulled over as his was not attached. The cop came to the passengers side of the door. He said sir you have not attached your seat belt. I could not hold it in. I told him, he does that all the time, Please give him a ticket. The cop looks at me strange and goes back to his vehicle. My friend is sighing next to me, as he knows he deserves it, and he knows this time it is going to cost him. The cop comes back and gives him a warning ticket. I think he thought I was being a shxt.

    I don’t know if that reverse works all the time, but my friend is happy he did not have to pay for a ticket, and he buckles up all the time now.

  37. Gates just wants everyone to know he is a black professor at Harvard. He is a uppity black man. He wouldn’t give the poor blacks the time of day outside of school.

    He knows he should have cooperated with the officer.

    I have told my kids when stopped by the police all ways cooperate. If they tell you to put your hands up do it and don’t move a muscle and keep your mouth shut.

    Sometimes they have to be brought down. I hope Crowley does sue. It will teach Gates a lesson.

    Harvard is making quite a name for it self. BAD

  38. There are strong public policy reasons for including police officers in the category of public officials because their actions are routinely subject to public review and scrutiny — and they hold considerable power over citizens. If he is found to be a public official, however, it becomes tougher but not impossible. He could still argue that Gates knew his allegation was false or had reckless disregard of the truth.

    However, Gates would argue that this was his view of the events and there is no objective means to prove one’s motivation. Moreover, Gates could argue that a ruling in favor of Crowley would expose any citizens to lawsuits by police when they allege racist motivations or actions.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Where Crowley is the Cambridge Police trainer on racial profiling; It may not only be Crowley who is suing Gates, but joined with the Cambridge PD as well. Crowley followed text book training for dealing with Gates.

    If that happens, we could see every PD in the country joining Crowleys suit as well. They are a Brotherhood. Gates has not only impuned the character of Crowley, he has impuned acceptable standards set forth in all police depts teaching a ‘racial profiling’ program throughout the nation.

  39. New Mexico Fan

    I had to laugh at your cop story.

    I have never had a speeding ticket in my life. I have been stopped but never given a ticket.

    I got stopped one day my daughter was in the car. The officer came up and asked for my ID i gave it to him, my daugther was in the passenger seat saying give her a ticket she has a lead foot.

    After the officer came back from checking my id all he said was watch your speed.

    I have been driving 49 years

  40. afaik- Chelsea is getting married the later part of August at Vernon Jordan’s estate on Marthas Vineyard.

    Maybe Obama will be visiting with his bosom buddy Gates.

  41. Sometimes we make judgements base on limited data, but first impressions are very important, and can stick. Having Chelsea’s grandmother in the back of the car I was escorting in IOWA, and having seen Chelsea up close at a meeting here, subing for her mother, my impressions of the character of the Clinton’s only grew.

    I admire how they are keeping this a family affair, and her grandmother seemed to indicate that Chelsea and her boyfriend visited often.

  42. Mrs. Smith, that story was out everywhere, but Greta specifically asked Hillary herself about it on Greta last week, and Hill said Chelsea is NOT getting married. It was a rumour.

    I heard it from Hill’s own mouth. Color me surprised!

  43. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 30% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9. (see trends).

    The number who Strongly Disapprove of the President has increased slightly following the prime time press conference on Wednesday night. That figure—39%–is now at the highest level yet recorded. As a result, the overall Approval Index has fallen to the lowest level yet recorded for this President.

    Obama still at 51% disapprove and 49% approve.

  44. confloyd Says:

    July 25th, 2009 at 4:30 am
    I just wondered if this whole controversy has been pushed by the adminstration just to take the news of the failure of Obama to get the HC vote.

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    I’m thinking just the opposite. This is just one more nail in a coffin that is already leaking very badly. This is another evidence-based moment where we realize for the upteenth time that barack obama is a cartoon character who is turning race relations backwards as far as it can go. This is another evidence-based moment where we continue to see this man’s incompetence, his weaknesses, and his anger at anyone who doesn’t have his skin colour.

  45. And this moment also suggests that pelosi will do anything and everything (criminal or not) to shove this health care through so she can give him the victory this faux potus desperately needs to hang on.

  46. Work, what work? He has outsourced it all to the monkeys in Congress and his handlers. Wow, those are some damning stats. Between those and travel and schmoozing with the Hollywood/wall street people and Wednesday night parties, we know he is not there to work for the country but have the title and enjoy the perks, big time.

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    # HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    On the interview stats:

    That’s around 10 TV interviews a month, or 2.5 per week. Between prep and shooting time, those things take hours.

    WHEN the hell does this man WORK?

  47. Rasmussen dropped again!
    I’m not terribly capable of identifying cause and effect, but am hoping the powers that be keep jacking stock market and lowering oil prices in an effort to boost those sagging ratings.

  48. Gates, being a Harvard Professor, should relish the idea of defending his own actions in a court of law, as this would provide a teaching moment for the country, that racism is bad and false claims of racism are the last bastion of scoundrels. If this thing does go to trial, I suspect he will call Sharpton and Clyburn as witnesses too since neither one of them let a little thing like the truth stand in the way of race baiting. The cross examination of each of those witnesses would be interesting, if you could get the Bible to not leap from their hand while they were taking the oath and lying about that. What we really need here is a bullshit detector.

  49. Good point by Crowley in tape. He was doing the OPPOSITE of profiiling. 911 got a call that 2 black men were breaking in. Finding one black man inside, he did NOT assume that the black man inside was one of the two who had broken in.

    He considered the possibility that the housebreakers might be elsewhere in the house unknown to the owner, or threatening the owner.

  50. ‘Arrest’ and ‘handcuffs’ are objective facts. Yelling and acting strange and acting uncooperative etc etc are opinion, and even the actual words and volume may not show up on the tape.

    Thus the ‘arrest’ and ‘handcuffs’ will spread through the media, before the yelling and acting strange can put its boots on.

  51. As someone said, here’s a safe target for burglary. In future, none of the neighbors will report it and no cops would answer the call if they did.

  52. How we had BHO forced on us by a
    string of special interests power merchants.Hillary never had a chance
    even though she won votes.What goes around comes around and he is in deep trouble.

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    In an effort to cast himself as independent of the influence of money on politics, Senator Barack Obama often highlights the campaign contributions of $200 or less that have amounted to fully half of the $340 million he has collected so far.

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    But records show that one-third of his record-breaking haul has come from donations of $1,000 or more: a total of $112 million, more than Senator John McCain, Mr. Obama’s Republican rival, or Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, his opponent in the Democratic primaries, raised in contributions of that size.

    Behind those larger donations is a phalanx of more than 500 Obama “bundlers,” fund-raisers who have each collected contributions totaling $50,000 or more. Many of the bundlers come from industries with critical interests in Washington. Nearly three dozen of the bundlers have raised more than $500,000 each, including more than a half-dozen who have passed the $1 million mark and one or two who have exceeded $2 million, according to interviews with fund-raisers.

    While his campaign has cited its volume of small donations as a rationale for his decision to opt out of public financing for the general election, Mr. Obama has worked to build a network of big-dollar supporters from the time he began contemplating a run for the United States Senate. He tapped into well-connected people in Chicago prior to the 2004 Senate race, and once elected, set out across the country starting to cultivate some of his party’s most influential money collectors.

    He courted them with the savvy of a veteran politician, through phone calls, meals and one-on-one meetings; he wrote thank-you cards and remembered birthdays; he sent them autographed copies of his book and doted on their children.

    The fruits of his efforts have put Mr. Obama’s major donors on a pace that almost rivals the $147 million raised by President Bush’s network of Pioneers and Rangers in contributions of $1,000 or larger during the 2004 primary season.

    Given his decision not to accept public financing, Mr. Obama is counting on his bundlers to help him raise $300 million for his general-election campaign and another $180 million for the Democratic National Committee.

  53. All great points, tdo.
    I logged in especially to comment on a scenario that could play out tomorrow. If so, it would be the second time Hillary has been disinvited to appear on a network show. My train of thought went like this: bet whichever station has been planning this hour-long interview with Hillary tomorrow was wishing they could weigh in on the hot news of the weekend. Perhaps Obama even wishes he could use that time to fill in with one more lackey of his.

    That brought back the memory of the time ABC cancelled HRC’s appearance on their morning show. Bear in mind that she indeed was First Lady at the time. In between scheduling her appearance and the day before it was to air, TrooperGate came out. Hil was expected to discuss it on the show. Hil refused. Hil was cancelled. Will be interesting to see if there is a similar action tomorrow.

  54. I guess I thought this was an Axelrod set up, but he forgot to telepromter O the answer, and it did not play as well as it did in the Primary and General election.

    People who shout WOLF too often, begin to get tuned out. I think this is unfortunate for AAs as I think that with them, along with a lot of other minorities to include Women there are a lot of issues to be addressed and fixed.

    I see some of this happening with women, as sometimes false charges are brought against men. This then weakens the ability for women who have justified complaints to be heard. Don’t get me wrong, I think charges should be brougt. But I think when you are seeking equality, you must be careful to choose your battles, and focus on legitiamate complaints, and not give exposure to those that are after fame or money.

    I also think that Gates, returning from China tired and without sleep, and who might have been sensitive in this area, just kind of went off. However, he should have regrouped and mellowed out on this more and quickly. Seeing the President inappropriately weight in on this has in the long run hurt the issue.

    Of course neither Gates or O apologized. O never does, and instead dances around the semantics, and invites people for a Beer. For a man who apologizes all over the world FOR Americans, you think he would be able to Apologizes TO an American Cop for speaking out INAPPROPRIATELY. Let me clue you, if they somehow force him to do it, it will be a fake as the times he did it during the campaign, which by the way, I cannot not remember him doing.

  55. I got this in an email. This should be an important issue for women. Please vote if you can, and ask others.

    Proposed Mastectomy Law Change (written by a surgeon);

    I’ll never forget the look in my patients eyes when I had to tell them they had to go home with the drains, new exercises and no breast. I remember begging the doctors to keep these women in the hospital longer, only to hear that they would, but their hands were tied by the insurance companies.

    So there I sat with my patient giving them the instructions they needed to take care of themselves, knowing full well they didn’t grasp half of what I was saying, because the glazed, hopeless, frightened look spoke louder than the quiet ‘Thank you’ they muttered.

    A mastectomy is when a woman’s breast is removed in order to remove cancerous breast cells/tissue. If you know anyone who has had a mastectomy, you may know that there is a lot of discomfort and pain afterwards. Insurance companies are trying to make mastectomies an outpatient procedure. Let’s give women the chance to recover properly in the hospital for 2 days after surgery.

    This Mastectomy Bill is in Congress now. It takes 2 seconds to do this and is very important. Please take the time and do it really quick! The Breast Cancer Hospitalization Bill is important legislation for all women.

    Please send this to everyone in your address book. If there was ever a time when our voices and choices should be heard, this is one of those times. If you’re receiving this, it’s because I think you will take the 30 seconds to go to vote on this issue and send it on to others you know who will do the same.

    There’s a bill called the Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act which will requ ire insurance companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for patients undergoing a mastectomy. It’s about eliminating the ‘drive-through mastectomy’ where women are forced to go home just a few hours after surgery, against the wishes of their doctor, still groggy from anesthesia and sometimes with drainage tubes still attached.

    Lifetime Television has put this bill on their web page with a petition drive to show your support.. Last year over half the House signed on. PLEASE! Sign the petition by clicking on the web site below. You need not give more than your name and zip code number.

    h t t p ://www.mylifetime.com/community/my-lifetime-commitment/breast-cancer/petition/breast-cancer-petition

    This takes about 2 seconds. PLEASE PASS THIS ON to your 20 friends.

  56. My significant other had a hernia operation, outpatient at his own choice. I am not a nurse. The first 24 hours were interesting. I guess raising children help me through some of it. But there was at least one worried telephone call to the on Call Doctor. As I remember the pain meds was attached with a tube, and we had to pull that out. I also felt more comfortable as there was an urgent care near by, and an ambulance station next door (2 blocks). If I was out by myself, I would have been more worried.

    I think we have reached a point of risk on some of these procedures, and it is time to stop.

  57. Commissioner Robert Haas said he deeply regrets the situation and plans for an independent panel to investigate what lessons ought to be learned from the arrest of Gates, even though he’s convinced Sgt. Crowley did nothing wrong.
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    This must be that “teaching moment”. Forced to do this I presume?

  58. As I inch closer to my senior years I can’t believe the Soylent Green moment has arrived. Soylent Green is a 1973 dystopian science fiction movie depicting a future in which overpopulation leads to depleted resources. The proverbially fork in the road is now upon us. Which way will America take? I found the link @ BP
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    GovernmentCare’s Assault on Seniors

    By Betsy McCaughey

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574303903498159292.html

    Since Medicare was established in 1965, access to care has enabled older Americans to avoid becoming disabled and to travel and live independently instead of languishing in nursing homes. But legislation now being rushed through Congress—H.R. 3200 and the Senate Health Committee Bill—will reduce access to care, pressure the elderly to end their lives prematurely, and doom baby boomers to painful later years.

    The Congressional majority wants to pay for its $1 trillion to $1.6 trillion health bills with new taxes and a $500 billion cut to Medicare. This cut will come just as baby boomers turn 65 and increase Medicare enrollment by 30%. Less money and more patients will necessitate rationing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only 1% of Medicare cuts will come from eliminating fraud, waste and abuse.

    The assault against seniors began with the stimulus package in February. Slipped into the bill was substantial funding for comparative effectiveness research, which is generally code for limiting care based on the patient’s age. Economists are familiar with the formula, where the cost of a treatment is divided by the number of years (called QALYs, or quality-adjusted life years) that the patient is likely to benefit. In Britain, the formula leads to denying treatments for older patients who have fewer years to benefit from care than younger patients.

    When comparative effectiveness research appeared in the stimulus bill, Rep. Charles Boustany Jr., (R., La.) a heart surgeon, warned that it would lead to “denying seniors and the disabled lifesaving care.” He and Sen. Jon Kyl (R., Ariz.) proposed amendments to no avail that would have barred the federal government from using the research to eliminate treatments for the elderly or deny care based on age.

    In a letter this week to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, White House budget chief Peter Orszag urged Congress to delegate its authority over Medicare to a newly created body within the executive branch. This measure is designed to circumvent the democratic process and avoid accountability to the public for cuts in benefits.

    Driving these cuts is the misconception that preventative care can eliminate sickness. As President Obama said in a speech to the American Medical Association: “We have to avoid illness and disease in the first place.” That would make sense if most diseases were preventable. But the two most prevalent diseases of aging—cancer and heart disease—are largely caused by genetics and their occurrence increases with age. Your risk of being diagnosed with cancer doubles from age 50 to 60, according to the National Cancer Institute.

    The House bill shifts resources from specialty medicine to primary care based on the misconception that Americans overuse specialist care and drive up costs in the process (pp. 660-686). In fact, heart-disease patients treated by generalists instead of specialists are often misdiagnosed and treated incorrectly. They are readmitted to the hospital more frequently, and die sooner.

    “Study after study shows that cardiologists adhere to guidelines better than primary care doctors,” according to Jeffrey Moses, a heart specialist at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Adds Jeffrey Borer, chairman of medicine at SUNY Downstate Medical Center: “Seldom do generalists have the knowledge to identify the symptoms of aortic valve disease, even though more than 10% of people over 75 have it. After valve surgery, patients who were too short of breath to walk can resume a normal life into their 80s or 90s.”

    While the House bill being pushed by the president reduces access to such cures and specialists, it ensures that seniors are counseled on end-of-life options, including refusing nutrition where state law allows it (pp. 425-446). In Oregon, some cancer patients are being denied care by the state that could extend their lives and instead are afforded the benefit of physician-assisted suicide instead.

    The harshest misconception underlying the legislation is that living longer burdens society. Medicare data prove this is untrue. A patient who dies at 67 spends three times as much on health care at the end of life as a patient who lives to 90, according to Dr. Herbert Pardes, CEO of New York Presbyterian Medical Center.

    What is costly is when seniors become disabled. In a 2007 Health Affairs article, researchers reported that surgeries to unclog arteries and replace worn out hips and knees have had a major impact on steadily reducing disability rates. And nondisabled seniors use only one-seventh as much health care as disabled seniors. As a result, the annual increase in per capita health spending on the elderly is less than for the rest of the population.

    Nevertheless, Medicare is running out of money. The problem is the number of seniors compared with the smaller number of workers supporting the system with payroll taxes. To remedy the problem, the Congressional Budget Office has suggested inching up the eligibility age one month per year until it reaches age 70 in 2043, or asking wealthy seniors to pay more.

    These are reasonable solutions—reducing access to treatments and counseling seniors about cutting life short are not. Medicare has made living to a ripe old age a good value. ObamaCare will undo that.

  59. From poster MaryB
    ******************************

    Did Obama have a personal vendetta against Cambridge cops?

    americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/did_obama_have_a_personal_vend_1.html

    Newsmax may have stumbled upon the real reason President Barack Hussein Obama (D) was so critical of the performance of the Cambridge police.

    One reason Barack Obama may have been so critical of the Cambridge Police Department is that he might have a grudge against the law enforcement agency.

    Obama, who attended Harvard Law School from 1988 to 1991, lived in Cambridge and apparently didn’t like the fact he was frequently hit with parking tickets.

    In all, Obama received 17 tickets for parking violations, and he did not pay 15 of them until a local newspaper exposed him as a scofflaw.

    (snip)

    Obama received 17 parking tickets in Cambridge between 1988 and 1991, mostly for parking in a bus stop, parking without a resident permit and failing to pay the meter, records from the Cambridge Traffic, Parking and Transportation office show.

    Racial profiling by ticketing cars parked in the wrong place and failure to pay a meter. Ask Professor Gates about this.

    But never fear. Our president is scofflaw no longer. More than 17 years after receiving his tickets, and being dunned for them

    The Illinois senator shelled out $375 in January – two weeks before he officially launched his presidential campaign – to finally pay for 15 outstanding parking tickets and their associated late fees.

    Jen Psaki, a spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, dismissed the

    tickets as not relevant. (snip)”He didn’t owe that much and what he did owe, he paid,” Psaki said on Wednesday. “Many people have parking tickets and late fees. All the parking tickets and late fees were paid in full.”

    Oh, Obama didn’t owe that much so he could at his convenience and only when he ran for public office.

    Definitely a case of racial profiling. Not!

  60. Gates’ lawyer, Ogletree, due to lecture on racism on Martha’s Vineyard.
    ——
    Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Will Speak at Union Chapel
    Charles Ogletree is lawyer, author, summer resident.

    Union Chapel is honored to welcome Professor Charles Ogletree Jr. to speak on Sunday, July 6, at 10 a.m.
    Mr. Ogletree is a Harvard professor of law, and founding and executive director of the Charles Hamilton Houston Institute for Race and Justice. He is a prominent legal theorist who has made an international reputation by taking a hard look at complex issues of law and by working to secure the rights guaranteed by the Constitution for everyone equally under the law.
    Mr. Ogletree has extensive literary credits to his name. His most recent book, co-edited with Professor Austin Sarat of Amherst College, is From Lynch Mobs to the Killing State: Race and the Death Penalty in America, published by New York University Press in May 2006.
    In 2000, he was selected by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America. He has received numerous awards, including the National Conference on Black Lawyers People’s Lawyer of the Year Award, the Man of Vision Award from the Museum of Afro-American History in Boston, and the 1993 Albert Sacks-Paul A. Freund Award for Teaching Excellence at Harvard Law School.
    In 2006 and again in 2007, Mr. Ogletree was named by Ebony Magazine as one of the 100-plus Most Influential Black Americans.
    From the Martha’s Vineyard Gazette
    mvgazette.com/article.php?17092
    —————————————————————————————
    This is from NY Mag article
    nymag.com/guides/summer/2009/57472/
    “As liberal as it is, the Vineyard is about as racially integrated as a college dining hall—blacks and whites get along fine, but they generally don’t socialize. “There’s not a lot of overlap between black and white,” says radio executive Skip Finley, who started vacationing in Oak Bluffs in 1954 and has been living there full-time for the past decade. “I don’t think anybody’s insulted by it. I’m certainly not.” It’s an arrangement that springs largely from the self-segregating impulse among black Vineyarders, who have come to the island to connect with each other. “We have people here who are black and upscale and racist,” Finley continues. “They don’t want to be around white folks, and they don’t have to.”
    snip
    “If you’re too Southern Baptist, too dark-skinned, too street, you might not be insulted by a white person but you may be insulted by a black person,” says Columbia law professor Patricia Williams.” … etc

    ———————————
    Comment on this article by certain members of the MV black community can be found in The Vineyard Gazette – front page – of Friday, 17July
    mvgazette.com/article.php?22035
    ————————————————–
    IMO both these articles, NY mag and Gazette, together might be very enlightening for those who are interested.

  61. When I was working on my degree for Nursing, I was a student during the day and worked full time 3-11 shift @ the hospital. I went to a University in Milwaukee that had very limited parking so you had to park on the streets. Unfortunately, you had 2 hr limits for the space so everyone was forever running out to their cars and moving them a foot or two as they would mark them with chalk, come back and ticket you if they saw the chalk. Needless to say, there were a few times I was not quick enough and had 6 tickets. It worried me all semester long but I was broke. Finally I saved the money, went to the police station to pay, which I did, but they immediately arrested me and put me in a holding pen. Yes, I am a criminal. I had to pay a VERY large fine, which I was not given as an option prior to my incarceration. It was humiliating and quite frankly ridiculous. Because I was a young pretty thing @ the time the police would come to the pen and stare @ me. To say the least, I was livid. I had one call, just like in the movies, called my BF and he came down and got me out.

    So the Fraud gets preferential treatment and he still calls out the police. Must be nice to be the chosen one all your life!

  62. “We have people here who are black and upscale and racist,” Finley continues. “They don’t want to be around white folks, and they don’t have to.”
    ********************************

    I thought you couldn’t be racist if your black?

  63. This must be that “teaching moment”. Forced to do this I presume?
    ———————————————————–
    It all depends on who is selected for that panel, and by whom. None of them should be from Harvard. None of them should be from the Cabridge Police Department. And none of them should be acquainted with the parties to the dispute or Obama who has managed to step in yet another cow paddy here. Each side should have competent representation. All material evidence photos, videos, tape recordings, police reports should be entered into evidence. Each party should have competent represretation. The panel should consist of three members: one selected by the policeman, one selected by the professor, and the third should be Associate Justice Clarence Thomas. The isssues should be: i) is did the policeman engage in racial profiling? ii) is the professor who makes a market in teaching about racism also a practioner of racism? and iii) why cant they just get along and have a beer with the fraud? The proceedings will be broadcast live, and legal experts from the Ted Bundy trial can weigh in. MSNBC who love to fan the flames of racism can do focus groups in Harlem and Hayden Lake to get the widest possible represnetation of viewpoints. And when it is all over, we can hang Matthews and Olberman, and spend a fine weekend at the Gates estate in Martha Vinyard where no whites are allowed.

  64. It is beginning to look like a hornets Nest, that they are trying to put a lid on. Let us face it, it has worked in the past.

  65. The reason it is a hornets nest is because Gates is wrong, and the evidence will prove it. If this case goes forward, he will be discredited. He will be seen as another Al Sharpton. Which is why I say le bon temps roule.

  66. NMF,

    Your cop story cracked me up!

    neetabug,

    Yours is funny, too.

    When mine happened I was in SHOCK that a middle-aged birdwatcher with an infirm white poodle was pulled over and considered a danger at 9AM on a Sunday morning!

  67. Basil9

    I understand completely, I moved back to my old hometown for a couple of year after I retired, and when the hometown cop pulled me over for speeding, as it was my second speeding ticket in the county, he threatened to send me to jail. They just must not have enough to do in my hometown. I just smiled, took the ticket, and paid it.

  68. My scariest cop experience was not actually cops, but the FBI.

    There was a missing/abducted child in my city a few months before. I had taken my kids including my 4-year-old son to the fair to see a small circus, and a newspaper photo caught his face in the crowd, and the reporter named us in the photo credit.

    Evidently, the grandmother of the missing boy saw the photo, and freaked out, swearing that was her grandson. I opened the door to armed FBI swarming over my house. I had to pull out the family photo albums from birth to 4, my son’s birth certificate, the whole nine yards, get neighbors and family involved to say yes he was my child.

    I didn’t get pissed off, though it was scary. I mostly felt so sad for that grandmother, hoping desperately that she saw what she thought she saw. I told the lead agent before he left to please feel free to give that grandma my phone number, and I’d gladly take my son to her house and let her see him in person if that would ease her poor heart in case she had any doubts.

  69. 1. step 1: G was in an agitiated state of mind because he could not get into his house. Then the officer approached and confronted him. He thinks about racism all the time in an academic setting. Suddenly, his
    magic thinking took over. White Officer + Black Civilian + Confrontation + trying to get into his own house= cop is a racist. Stupid perhaps, but we have all made similar mistakes. He levels the accusation.

    2. step 2: the cop asks for proof of identity. Since the cop does not know him, and is investigating a reported break in the request is a reasonable one. Does anyone believe if G had been white, the cop would have not done the same thing? It was a matter of procedure. Thus, the refusal to produce it was stupid as well. But again he may have been acting in the heat of passion.

    3. step 3: things escalate and he gets arrested. At that point, he should have settled down and produced the identification. But now it had become personal. Instead of gearing down, he dialed it up and decided to use his power and influence to destroy the cop.

    4. step 4: as things get out of control, instead of offering an olive branch to the cop, he demands unconditional surrender. The cop must apologize for something he never did, he may or may not forgive him depending on whether he thinks it is sincere, and then he will teach him about racisim.

    I have changed my mind about G. He is not a racist. He is a head case. But that does not absolve our illustrious president. He did the same thing he did with Hondurus–ready fire aim.

  70. bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1186932

    Gates case sure to set back race relations

    Now it’s Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Harvard academic and darling of the liberal glitterati, who’s triggered a furor with virulent accusations of redneck behavior by a cop who confronted him, ironically after arriving to protect his home.

    Fawning media quickly portrayed him as a martyr, as if Gates had been bloodied in a Birmingham bus station rather than arrested for indignantly shooting off his mouth to an investigating officer.

    But Bill Ford, 60, a cabbie in this town for decades, was one of many irate local callers who sees the damage being done.

    “You expect this from Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson,” he said. “They can’t exist without racial turmoil. If everyone began getting along, they’d be out of business.

    “Gates, however, has really infuriated people. I’m hearing it everywhere I go. Because of him, I can assure you racists have been created over these past few days.”

    Meanwhile, the educator plans to turn his victimization into a documentary. What a surprise.

    For the edification of wannabe victims, perhaps its closing line ought to be: “The race card. Don’t leave home without it.”

  71. noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/25/teachable-moment-my-ass/#more-28827

    Larry lets it rip…

    ‘Teachable Moment My Ass’

    The audacity of ignorance and hubris on display by Barack Obama is jaw dropping. His lame attempt Friday afternoon to quell the controversy sparked by his Wednesday night bloviation at the White House press conference, where he declared that the Cambridge police “acted stupidly,” flopped

    insert O video and comments

    Gave an impression? Is he crazy?

    You did not “give an impression” you fool. You did malign Sergeant Crowley. You just assumed that because he was a white cop he was in the wrong. Without getting any facts and without any caveat you said the Crowley acted stupidly. As Forest Gump said, “stupid is as stupid does” and you, Mr. Obama, have taken stupidity to a new level.

    (nail hits head/me)

  72. HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, H4T. I heard about Hillary stating there isn’t going to be a wedding on Greta. Can’t really blame her for fibbing a little if that is what it is.. The people leaking contrary info are the food staff involved in the menu for the wedding. I hope for Hillary’s and our sake there is a wedding and we can get that overwith, have a happy day ending with a joyous send off for Chelsea. The day after the festivities, get down to brass tacks w/Obama and start ripping him a new one.

    IOW… WWIII

  73. Oh, so maybe the wedding is on after all, Mrs. Smith, and this is just Hill’s way of trying to avoid a media frenzy for her precious girl! I hope so.

  74. You all have such wonderful cop stories. I hesitate writing about mine.

    Can you imagine getting stopped twice on the same interstate within 45 min of each other. The ticket still laying on the seat from the first cop?

  75. # HillaryforTexas Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Oh, so maybe the wedding is on after all, Mrs. Smith, and this is just Hill’s way of trying to avoid a media frenzy for her precious girl! I hope so.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly, H4T… and the only reason I can see she has been putting up with Obama’s tricks, trying to keep the peace until the wedding is over. I do so hope my intuition is right about her motives… time will tell, I guess.

  76. And when it is all over, we can hang Matthews and Olberman, and spend a fine weekend at the Gates estate in Martha Vineyard where no whites are allowed.
    *******************************

    Except I heard Gates is married to a ‘White woman”, per a sister. Don’t know if it’s true, but she has proven right many times in the past. What a trip she must be having and what fun in the ‘all exclusive, Black only ” Vineyard!

  77. Mrs. Smith, Where did you hear that stuff about the menu for Chelsea’s wedding? That’s new to me, although I’ve seen a number of other reports about her nuptials.

    BTW, I agree with you that Hillary is doing what she can to prevent a media frenzy. It’s not like she could’ve answered Greta’s question by saying, “Yes, indeed, she is getting married next month. Thanks for asking.” They’re trying to keep this a quiet as possible.

  78. Can you imagine getting stopped twice on the same interstate within 45 min of each other. The ticket still laying on the seat from the first cop?
    ***********
    Happened to me in West Texas…I was praying that the first citation hadn’t made it into the database as the second cop was running my tags.

  79. Paula Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Yes, it’s probably too late for curiosity seekers to make their way to MV to cause a frenzy now. However, the spoiler, BO is going to be in MV coincidentally at the time the supposed wedding is going to take place, renting a 28 acre farm for his vacay at a cost of $35,000/wk at taxpayer expense.

  80. Why are not the press standing on Gates lawn? They need teachable moments too, and they say Marthas Vinyard is lovely this time of year.

  81. For anyone interested:

    Sunday talk shows: Hillary Clinton, Kyl, Axelrod, Jindal, Gibbs, DeMint

    ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos: Sens. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), and a round table with George Will, Donna Brazile, David Brooks, Arianna Huffington and Paul Krogman.

    Bloomberg’s Political Capital with Al Hunt: Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.) and Bloomberg’s Rich Miller and Kevin Hassett.

    CBS’ Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer: White House advisor David Axelrod, Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.), Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.) and historian Douglas Brinkley.

    CNN’s GPS with Fareed Zakaria: French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde, University of Tehran’s Seyed Mohammad Marandi, Nouriel Roubini, US News & World Report’s Mort Zuckerman and “Ascent of Money” author Niall Ferguson

    CNN’s State of the Union with John King: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Axelrod, Democratic strategist Paul Begala, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos, William Bennett and the National Urban League’s Marc Morial.

    Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace: White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, Minority Whip Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and a round table with Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume, NPR’s Mara Liasson and Juan Williams and the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol.

    NBC’s Meet the Press with David Gregory: Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/

  82. Mrs. Smith, Where did you read about the wedding menu leaks? Just curious.

    BTW, Obama’s SUPPOSED to be footing the bill for his MV vacation.

  83. I wonder who is lobbying for the regular Joe???

    Lobbyists the silver lining in health care storm?

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR (AP) – 3 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — A strong force, perhaps as powerful in Congress as President Barack Obama, is keeping the drive for health care going even as lawmakers seem hopelessly at odds.

    Lobbyists.

    The drug industry, the American Medical Association, hospital groups and the insurance lobby are all saying Congress must make major changes this year. Television ads paid for by drug companies and insurers continued to emphasize the benefits of a health care overhaul — not the groups’ objections to some of the proposals.

    “My gut is telling me that something major can pass because all the people who could kill it are still at the table,” said Ken Thorpe, chairman of health policy at Emory University in Atlanta. “Everybody has issues with bits and pieces of it, but all these groups want to get something done this year.” As a senior official at the Health and Human Services department in the 1990s, Thorpe was deeply involved in the Clinton administration’s failed effort. This time, the health care industry groups see a strategic opportunity. As lawmakers squabble, the groups are focused on how to come out ahead in the end game.

    “We’re still optimistic that we can get health care reform accomplished,” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, the main insurance industry trade group. “There is strong support from policymakers and from across the health care sector. ”

    It’s all got to do with shifts in the economy. Even before the recession hit, employer-sponsored health coverage had been steadily shrinking, and many people couldn’t afford the premiums for individual policies. Meanwhile, government programs have been expanding — and they’ve gotten increasingly friendly to private insurance companies. Insurers now play major roles as middlemen in Medicare, Medicaid and the children’s insurance program.

    And if the government requires everybody to get coverage — just what the overhaul legislation calls for — it could guarantee a steady stream of customers subsidized by taxpayers not only for insurers, but for all medical providers.

    The industry groups have invested heavily to make sure their views get taken into account. The health care sector gave $167 million in campaign contributions to congressional candidates in the 2008 election cycle, according to the watchdog group OpenSecrets.org. Health care companies poured $484 million into lobbying efforts in 2008, and are on pace to exceed that this year.

    Separately, the drug companies have offered up $80 billion over 10 years to reduce prescription costs of seniors if a deal goes through, while major hospital groups agreed to a $155-billion reduction in Medicare and Medicaid payments to free up funds that would help subsidize coverage for the uninsured.

    The political infighting on Capitol Hill has strengthened the hand of the health care groups, since liberals have been thwarted so far in their attempts to win speedy passage of the legislation through the House and Senate.

    One of the liberals’ main objectives is to include a strong government-sponsored insurance plan in the legislation, to compete against private insurance. Stopping or weakening the government plan is a top priority for the insurance industry. Other health care interest groups are also leery because the public plan could put a dent in their budgets. The House version, modeled on Medicare, would pay doctors and hospitals less than private insurance.

    All eyes are now on Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., who has never been friendly to the idea of a government-sponsored insurance plan. Baucus is trying to broker a bipartisan deal with a handful of Republican colleagues.

    It’s not clear if Baucus will succeed, but his group is looking at creating nonprofit co-ops that would lack Medicare’s power to dictate payment levels and tell providers to take it or leave it. Instead, the co-ops would have to negotiate payment rates with hospitals, doctors and drug makers — just like private insurance plans do.

    “We are hopeful at the end of the day a bipartisan plan will emerge that benefits both patients and the U.S. economy,” said Ken Johnson, senior vice president of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the drug industry lobby.

    Obama has endorsed the notion of a strong public plan, the kind liberals want to see. But if Baucus gets a bipartisan deal, the president may have to swallow hard and embrace it — or accept defeat of his top domestic priority.

    “There is a way out of it — a bipartisan compromise_ but so far the liberals have found that to be anathema,” said Robert Laszewski, a health care industry consultant.

    Laszewski is pessimistic about the prospects for overhaul legislation this year. But he thinks insurers in particular look like they’re in a win-win situation.

    “The health insurance industry is in a fantastic position,” he said. Democratic liberals overreached and can’t move a bill over the objections of their moderate and conservative colleagues.

    “Democrats can’t blame the industry if this goes down,” Laszewski added. “So the health insurance industry is happy to let this thing take its course.”

    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5igfa8hbGjdOo8cuFoH1aPuwmHBWwD99LIP880

  84. Lots of interesting stuff again being posted today. Shame on you SHV for the 2 tickets. 🙂

    Shame on you JanH for mentioning Donna (ugh) Brazille. 🙂

    And we do want to remind everyone that Obama’s lawn is to be found at the Rezko house in Chicago. The White House is the people’s house, not Obama’s. That’s a teachable moment.

  85. There is also very big news today on the health care front. We’ll mention it here even though it deserves an article all its own.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25415.html

    For the second time this month, congressional budget analysts have dealt a blow to the Democrat’s health reform efforts, this time by saying a plan touted by the White House as crucial to paying for the bill would actually save almost no money over 10 years.

    A key House chairman and moderate House Democrats on Tuesday agreed to a White House-backed proposal that would give an outside panel the power to make cuts to government-financed health care programs. White House budget director Peter Orszag declared the plan “probably the most important piece that can be added” to the House’s health care reform legislation.

    But on Saturday, the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal to give an independent panel the power to keep Medicare spending in check would only save about $2 billion over 10 years- a drop in the bucket compared to the bill’s $1 trillion price tag.

    “In CBO’s judgment, the probability is high that no savings would be realized … but there is also a chance that substantial savings might be realized. Looking beyond the 10-year budget window, CBO expects that this proposal would generate larger but still modest savings on the same probabilistic basis,” CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf wrote in a letter to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Saturday.

    The proposal’s meager savings are a blow to Democrats working furiously to bring down costs in order to win support from their party’s fiscally conservative Blue Dogs, who have threatened to vote against the bill without significant changes. The proposal was heralded as a breakthrough on Tuesday after Blue Dogs and House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman emerged from the White House with agreement on giving the independent panel, rather than Congress, the ability to rein in Medicare spending.

  86. Paula, here are bits and pieces gathered from the Boston Globe.

    h…. hillaryunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/chelsea-clinton-getting-married-in-august/

  87. Thanks, Mrs. Smith, I did see that.

    Here’s the latest I’ve come across, including info on the Obama vacation.

    gawker.com/5322745/obamas-clintons-anybody-whos-anybody-will-be-in-marthas-vineyard-this-summer

  88. Shame on you SHV for the 2 tickets.
    ********
    I was just thinking about that situation…it was the perfect time to have been a smarta** with the cops. The first stop was by a TX highway patrol officer, I was doing five over he was very professional, gave me a warning. The second stop (again 5 mph over) was by a small town cop who was driving on the interstate. He was looking for trouble, asked me where I was coming from, where I was going, how much my car cost, what kind of job I had, how much money I made..blah…blah…I held my temper and got another warning…If I had objected to his behavior, it would have been “Sir, get out of the car” and then all down hill.

  89. There is also very big news today on the health care front.
    *********
    This short article sums up the health care situation…words matter and Obama finally told the truth, This is “Health Insurance reform” (To benefit the Insurance Companies)

    JanH Says:……..
    google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5igfa8hbGjdOo8cuFoH1aPuwmHBWwD99LIP880

    Big Med and Parma are basically in the position of saying “Please don’t throw us into the Briar Patch”!!!!

    This is the “money” quote:

    “And if the government requires everybody to get coverage – just what the overhaul legislation calls for – it could guarantee a steady stream of customers subsidized by taxpayers not only for insurers, but for all medical providers.”

    No sh*t and the Insurance Companies, etc are laughing all the way to the Bank.

  90. More good news for lobbyists:
    White House eases stimulus lobbyist restrictions. Posted 7/25/09. In a significant change, the Obama administration will now allow lobbyists to meet and have telephonic discussions with government officials regarding economic recovery projects.The lifting of the ban comes after K Street has cried foul for months and has challenged the White House on its restrictions….
    slash slash thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-eases-stimulus-lobbyist-restrictions-2009-07-25.html

  91. A poster at TC says: Schneider was just on CNN getting all bent out of shape than anyone would suggest Afghanistan is Obama’s war. “He was in Illinois. It’s America’s war. It’s the war of our allies all over the world,” etc. Lol

    LOL! No, it is Obama’s war now. He wanted the job, he gets held accountable for how he does it.
    What the hell did these people think was supposed to happen? Obama was supposed to take office, point at how bad everything is “because of Bush!”, then proceed to preen for 4 years while periodically reminding us of how bad Bush made things?

  92. ‘But on Saturday, the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal to give an independent panel the power to keep Medicare spending in check would only save about $2 billion over 10 years- a drop in the bucket compared to the bill’s $1 trillion price tag.’

    I hope the BD Dems take note of that.

    Mrs. Smith,

    ‘Fess up with your cop story. 😉

  93. Hmmmmmm….

    I just read the rest of the article Admin posted.

    Any chance the WH realy DOESN’T want a health care bill passed and is just grandstanding to save face with the left?

    Or am I being way too paranoid?

  94. Paula Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Thanks, Mrs. Smith, I did see that.

    Here’s the latest I’ve come across, including info on the Obama vacation.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Aha! looks like the wedding IS on!… I hope so. Too Bad Bambi has to horn in on all the fun. He coulda picked another island, yeah?

  95. # basil9 Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Mrs. Smith,

    ‘Fess up with your cop story.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    I’m not the greatest story teller, basil9. I don’t have a way with words like some of the great writers here. But there is a story to tell, thats for sure… might even raise a few eyebrows… As I look back,… oh well.

  96. Any chance the WH realy DOESN’T want a health care bill passed and is just grandstanding to save face with the left?
    ********
    The WH very much wants “Health Insurance Reform” passed. They couldn’t give a sh*t what is in the legislation…they just need a signing ceremony in the Rose Garden and MSM talking about how Obama saved the Health Care system. Even if the POS legislation is passed, there wont be anyone getting coverage until at least 2013 and the program wont be in full effect until after 2019. So Obama and the Dems will have a decade to say “it will get better, it’s takes time” when, in fact, they know that no one is getting a health care pony in 2019. The Insurance Companies are the only beneficiaries. Seen any “Harry and Louise” recently??? After they knocked Hillary out of the primary, the Health Insurance lobby was home free. Hillary was the only threat to their $600 billion per year cash flow.

  97. David Gregory is in for an interesing hour tomorrow when Hillary meets the press for one hour.He is up against the most well known and popular woman in the world and and he and B.(burnt toast)Obama will feel the wrath
    worldwide if he tries to belittle or marginalize her.

    =======================
    Secretary Clinton will be in the spotlight, literally, this Sunday morning. Back from Asia, she’ll be on NBC’s Meet the Press for the entire hour!

    •Speaking of the spotlight, a New York Times headline today declares: “Asia Trip Propels Clinton Back into Limelight.” (And yes, I know that many of you say she never ever was out of the limelight — the “shadows” thing was all concocted.)

    •Clinton has just “taken Asia by storm” with a tour that is “undeniably a success in public-relations and policy terms,” a college professor writes in a Scripps Howard News Service op-ed.

    •Clinton is viewed as the most intelligent first lady in a Harris Poll that asked about 11 first ladies from Eleanor Roosevelt through Michelle Obama (minus Elizabeth Truman and Mamie Eisenhower for some reason). Regarding the 11 first ladies, 29 percent of respondents said Clinton was most intelligent; Roosevelt was second with 13 percent, and Obama was third with 11 percent.

    •Regarding this week’s verbal jousting between Clinton and North Korea, a Washington Post Style article compares Clinton to the archetypal schoolyard “overachiever” and North Korea to the schoolyard’s “socially inept loner.”

    •Hillary fans aren’t going to like this one: A Boston Globe editorial accuses Clinton of “rookie mistakes” during her Asia trip.

    Photo: INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images

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    North Korea: Clinton looks like a ‘primary schoolgirl’
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 12:01pm

    I’m “speed-blogging” once again with a quick roundup of Hillary news:

    •Two days after Secretary Clinton compared North Korea’s leaders to “unruly teenagers,” the country’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement: “Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl and sometimes a pensioner going shopping.” (Really? North Korean schoolgirls wear pantsuits?)

    •Israel’s intelligence agencies minister has criticized Clinton for saying that the United States is considering extending a “defense umbrella” over the Persian Gulf region to deter Iran.

    •ASEAN has rejected Clinton’s suggestion that it should kick Burma out of the regional organization if it doesn’t free Aung San Suu Kyi.

    •When asked about her presidential ambitions in a TV interview, Clinton said, “I doubt very much that anything like that will ever be part of my life.”

    Photo: ROMEO GACAD/AFP/Getty Images

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    Clinton: ‘The United States is back’
    Wed, 07/22/2009 – 11:05am

    Once again, I only have time to offer a quick roundup of Hillary Clinton news. I’ve been ordered to prioritize copy-editing articles for the print edition of FP, so unfortunately Madam Secretary is “lite” today.

    •”The United States is back,” Clinton said upon arrival in Thailand for the ASEAN meeting in Phuket. “I believe strongly the United States has to be involved in this region,” she declared, referring to Asia.

    •Clinton suggested that the United States is considering extending a “defense umbrella” over the Persian Gulf region to deter Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

    •Clinton urged Burma to release democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi, saying it would pave the way for a better U.S.-Burma relationship, including investments.

    •Clinton is expected to be made special envoy to Northern Ireland.

    •A Hillary Clinton effigy was burned in India in protest of the frisking of a former Indian president by Continental Airlines. (How ridiculous!)

    •Clinton and President Obama might have “inflated hopes” about global cooperation, writes Philadelphia Inquirer columnist Trudy Rubin.

    Photo: BAZUKI MUHAMMAD/AFP/Getty Images

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    Hillary Clinton arrives in Thailand
    Tue, 07/21/2009 – 2:52pm

    Secretary Clinton has arrived in Thailand for the summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). Above, she speaks during a news conference with Thai Deputy Prime Minister Korbsak Sabhavasu in Bangkok.

    Due to time constraints, today I’ve just got a quick summary of recent Clinton news:

    •Clinton to sign ASEAN treaty: She’ll be signing ASEAN’s Treaty of Amity and Cooperation, a move possibly aimed at countering China.

    •Clinton is worried about military ties between Burma and North Korea.

    •Clinton and India’s external affairs minister signed a deal that will allow India to buy sophisticated U.S. weapons.

    •Clinton said the U.S. government is doing all it can to rescue captured U.S. soldier Bowe Bergdahl.

    •A federal judge has dismissed a 13-year-old lawsuit — “Filegate” — against Clinton.

    Photo: NICOLAS ASFOURI/AFP/Getty Images

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    Photo Summary: Hillary Clinton’s India Trip
    Mon, 07/20/2009 – 12:05pm

    Chairman of Indian conglomerate TATA group, Ratan Tata, left, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Reliance Industries Chairman Mukesh Ambani, right, share a light moment during a meeting with Indian business leaders in Mumbai on July 18. Clinton arrived in India hoping to deepen strategic ties with an emerging player on the world stage in security, trade, arms control, and climate change. Clinton also paid tribute to the nearly 200 people who died in last November’s terrorist siege of Mumbai.

    While wearing a thread necklace, Clinton claps to a song sung by volunteers of the NGO Self Employed Women’s Association (SEWA) during a visit to its premises in Mumbai on July 18. She first came into contact with the association of women artisans in 1995, when she was first lady. She said, “It is absolutely undeniable that the progress of women is directly linked to the progress of any country. The more women have the rights, education, employment opportunities, access to credit, role in decision making in family and community, the more development will take place.”

    The artisans presented her a handmade multicolored quilt. Clinton bought a jacket and scarf for Chelsea and an orange blouse dyed with pomegranate for herself.

    Clinton, watched by Indian TV journalist Arnab Goswami, left, and Indian Bollywood actor Aamir Khan, gestures during an interactive education discussion in Mumbai on July 18.

    Clinton waves to the media as Indian Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar (in white) looks on during a visit to the Indian Agricultural Research Institute in New Delhi on July 19. Clinton arrived in the Indian capital hoping to narrow a wide gap with her hosts on fighting climate change.

    A garlanded Clinton shakes hands with Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh upon her arrival at the ITC Green Centre Building in Gurgaon, on the outskirts of New Delhi, on July 19. A friendly as things look in this photo, discussions between two became heated later on.

    Clinton ended the day at the Delhi Haat artisans bazaar, where she bought a few handicraft pieces. She ate dinner at the Maurya Sheraton hotel’s Bukhara restaurant. Husband Bill and daughter Chelsea dined there in 2000, and the restaurant has two items named after them: the vegetarian Chelsea Platter, featuring the foods Chelsea liked, and the nonvegetarian Presidential Platter, featuring items that Bill ordered.

    Clinton said the next day, “I have long been an admirer of India. … I feel very much at home here. I eat way too much of the food at every chance I get. I have to go on a diet when I get back home — back to carrots and celery.”

    Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh gestures while talking with Clinton in New Delhi on July 20. Clinton hoped to seal a defense pact boosting U.S. arms sales to India in talks that should also see agreement on the siting of two U.S.-built nuclear reactors.

    She also held a question-and-answer session with university students in New Delhi. She said the entertainment industry can distort how people in one country view those in another, saying to a laughing audience, “If Hollywood and Bollywood were how we all lived our lives, that would surprise me. … And yet it’s often the way our cultures are conveyed, isn’t it? … People watching a Bollywood movie in some other part of Asia think everybody in India is beautiful and they have dramatic lives and happy endings. And if you were to watch American TV and our movies you’d think that we don’t wear clothes and we spend all our time fighting with each other.”

    Congress Party President Sonia Gandhi shakes hands with Clinton at a meeting in New Delhi on July 20. Gandhi is the widow of assassinated former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and daughter-in-law of the late Indira Gandhi, India’s first woman prime minister.

    Photos, top to bottom: INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images, INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images, INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images, PRAKASH SINGH/AFP/Getty Images, TENGKU BAHAR/AFP/Getty Images, PRAKASH SINGH/AFP/Getty Images, PRAKASH SINGH/AFP/Getty Images

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  98. On the healthcare front, and the “Republican scare tactics” about “Govt takeover of healthcare” here’s my latest thoughts:

    If you ask people if they want single payer, like Medicare, they overwhelmingly say “Yes”.

    But if you read this bill, then ask them:

    Do you want govt-mandated “end-of-life counseling” for seniors?

    Do you want an executive branch appointee to make decisions about healthcare and insurance, completely bypassing congress?

    Do you want govt deciding how much or what type assets a doctor can own?

    Do you want govt to decide how many beds a hospital can have, and when they are allowed to expand?

    Their answer is then a resounding NO..

    Because those things, to them, DO sound very suspiciously like the govt “taking over” healthcare. And the Dems have loaded up this bill with crap like that, which is why it’s over 1000 pages. Because they can;t bring themselves to do a simple, easily understood basic single payer plan. They can’t just sequentially expand Medicare.

    The Dims cannot RESIST the temptation to stick their fingers in and micromanage every little thing, and throw in exclusions for this pet lobby, or accommodations for that pet donor. And the voters get RIGHTLY suspicious that what was supposed to be a simple matter of limiting insurance abuses, and opening up a public plan for ALL (which was Hillary’s idea), has turned into something else altogether.

    The public doesn’t trust the fuckers, because every time a bill gets that big, and that complicated, they figure they are being snowed yet again, and God-Knows-What is in there.

  99. We had dinner last week with some good friends – a Polish nephrologist and his wife.

    He said in Poland, every employed person pays 7-8% of income in direct payroll taxes, and everyone is covered for everything. Self-employed people have to contribute the same amount annually when they do their taxes.
    The docs make a nice living, and there are not reams and reams of regulations and rules about what procedures you can do, can’t do, what diagnosis you can use, how it has to be billed. There is a set fee schedule for any visit, procedure, etc, and it is what it is. The govt there just set it up and kept it simple, without a lot of meddling. He says the regulations HERE on docs and hospitals, both from Medicare and private insurance, are insane. He said he’s never spent so much time and staff doing paperwork in his entire medical career!

    But in his view, the key is to keep it simple. If you start trying to micromanage and cost-cut by using intrusive measures and endless “requirements” and cost-reviews, you end up spending MORE money in administrative personnel trying to do that, than if you’d just left it alone and done simple general fees.

    That’s been his experience from practicing here, Poland, and a couple of other European countries. The ones that keep it simple do a better job.

  100. Yes, H4T and that is exactly the catch. It’s not the plan itself that some may find palatable… it’s the hook government puts into your pocket book and private life forcing you to take their deal. That is the smarmy endgame..

  101. Mrs. Smith, hubby is a doc, and says that if Medicare just fired all the thousands of people and man-hours they use trying to find “fraud” and “overcharges” and haggling over bills, they would likely lose LESS money.

    It probably costs more in man-hours to do all that “cost-control” than if they just let the occasional “unnecessary admission” slip through.

    I mean, really, I know there are a handful of as*h*le crooked docs out there. But the vast majority are not going around keeping people in the hospital for weeks and weeks just for shits and giggles.

  102. ABM90 Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    I read the Madame Secretary post at the Foreign Policy site… The Hillary pics from Getty images were the most meaningful of the whole damn article.

    The author claims he was so rushed… if you say so….

    The heat is growing in the State Dept… almost ready to explode.

    I think, Obama is the paranoid one. It really kills him whenever Hillary is complimented or receives accolades from well known organizations and foreign leaders… perhaps acadamia, or anyone with an ounce of brains can see they don’t belong in the WH…

    Consequently, he and his wife are ignored. As well you would ignore someone thinskinned that is crass and ruthless to the bone.

  103. David Gregory is in for an interesing hour tomorrow when Hillary meets the press for one hour.He is up against the most well known and popular woman in the world and and he and B.(burnt toast)Obama will feel the wrath
    worldwide if he tries to belittle or marginalize her.
    ———————————————
    Hope so ABM 90. I have got to tell you in all candor I cannot trust anything that is being said by our government now. I am very uneasy about that. And I am even more uneasy with the media. So more and more I find myself tuning out. It is like it is all bullshit now–rather than just partly bullshit. And the more you look at it the more it does not add up.

  104. H4T:

    “I mean, really, I know there are a handful of as*h*le crooked docs out there. But the vast majority are not going around keeping people in the hospital for weeks and weeks just for shits and giggles.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And your husband is absolutely right! The Nursing Homes are another story altogether…

  105. I did not mean that to apply to Hillary. But she is one of a kind. The rest of them . . . I just dont know anymore.

  106. I think, Obama is the paranoid one. It really kills him whenever Hillary is complimented or receives accolades from well known organizations and foreign leaders… perhaps acadamia, or anyone with an ounce of brains can see they don’t belong in the WH…

    Consequently, he and his wife are ignored. As well you would ignore someone thinskinned that is crass and ruthless to the bone.
    ————————————-
    Mrs. Smith., I think you are so right on that. He is definitely a head case and it tears him up inside when someone else holds the spotlight. What a terrible way to live. But even worse what a terrible characater flaw in a president. Are we the only ones who see it. Oh I guess Krautmammer does. The friend I talked to yesterday seemed to think Os meglomania, the way he stikes a pose like Mussolini is funny. I do not think it is funny at all. I think it is a big problem for the country. I am telling you, I worry about fools like him. They have a genius for getting the organization or in this case the country into deep kaka.

  107. Oh, I have worked nursing homes, and many are horrible. If there is anywhere we need MORE regulation, not less, it’s there. And most are so understaffed that even if they are trying to do a good job, they can’t.

    You try getting 20-something people, many of whom have to be physically lifted, up, bathed, dressed, meds given, etc, all between 8 and 11 am, and tell me you can do anything other than shove them around like cattle. And when you finish with the last ten, the first 5 have already soiled themselves again. And do it for marginally over minimum wage, to boot, which is all most nursing assistants make.

    No nursing assistant should be taking care of more than 10 residents, period. You are ASKING for bad care, and even frustration and abuse if you do. Even good people can snap if pushed hard enough.

  108. Mrs. Smith, but instead of providing more budget for nursing home care, we are employing hundreds to comb through files and find some doc who kept a gallbladder patient in the hospital for 3 days instead of the “allowed” 2 days.

    It’s madness.

  109. Do we know for certain that an audio recording of the confrontation exists? And what are the procedures for releasing them?

  110. I really hope they release those tapes, and play the good professor screaming and yelling like a maniac while Crowley calmly tries to talk to him on every news channel.

  111. Somebody above mentioned Bill Maher and the fact that Maher was siding with Gates. I was thinking about Maher and the fact that Maher supports racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims at airports. He’s frequently spoken on his show about how every Arab should be searched before boarding a plane. Does he not support racial profiling of Blacks?

  112. Maher plays to his latte-liberal misogynist Obama-lovin frat boy audience, period. He’d be on the side of anything he thought it was “hip” to be on the side of, and that would make them tune in.

  113. DYB…

    Oh, good! Lets move on and have a beer at the WH… They hooked into a rattlesnakes nest when they decided to mess with the Brotherhood. This is why it is imperative for Crowley to call in all PDs nationally and break the spell of playing the race card once and for all Obama and Axelrod are so adept at playing at every corner and turn.

  114. DYB, the radio was switched on “open” very early in the incident, and it was all recorded. Don’t know about the quality.

  115. DYB..

    I heard Maher’s show last night. He’s famous for kissing up to those in power. I couldn’t believe he was siding against Crowley. Maher is a headline maven. He runs with what is popular on the msm. I don’t believe he does any research at all on his own.

  116. Maher did not support HRC even early on, and I think it should have been a sign that the Dims were up to something. I have never been able to tolerate him.

  117. DYB,

    I didn’t recognize 2 of the guests at all. If I remember correctly, the one AA guest’s last name was Allen/Allan? Maher basically set the tone for what was discussed. There were no counter opinion representatives to his stand for Gates. He really was sickening.

    I just tried looking it up on my tv viewer guide.. won’t go back that far. It was last night’s show about 9pm…

  118. Another one bites the dust. Apparently Denzel Washington is going to play bambi in a new bio-pic movie and is ecstatic about it.

    I used to like him…sigh…

  119. OK… Here’s my Cop story. You must know by now.. I am not anti Law Enforcement or a Smart A**… I guess I’m what you’d call unorthodox…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Toodling down the interstate at a good clip, 70-75 mph..I spotted 13 or so cars already stopped along the roadside by two Troopers taking their time checking IDs and registration information… (I was already late for an aptmt over the state line) seeing the row of cars… then seeing a trooper flagging me over… the expletives were already streaming from my virgin lips. (thinking it’s going to take 20 min just for the trooper to get over to my poor old Fiat Spyder coupe huffing and puffing for all it’s worth just to get me where I’m going)

    I rolled down the window and handed the info to the officer. He said: Beautiful day, isn’t it?” At my wits end… I replied: “Yeah, it was beautiful until you flagged me over”…I went on with….”how long is this going to take?” I’m late as it is… and you’re making it worse…

    Five minutes later he retuned with my info in hand and a ticket, saying this is just a warning…slow down…. I thanked him and was on my way, again…. After 30min had passed I noticed the needle on the Temp Gage was climbing into the ‘red zone’ … I thought I saw smoke coming from the engine. I wasn’t about to stop to see what was the matter… just kept looking for a Gas Station sign at the next earliest exit.

    Finaly, I spotted a Shell sign among the treetops at the next exit… Upon exiting at a fairly high rate of speed, I exited onto a roundabout.. almost carrening broadside with my little car into a Troopers car… Needless to say, the Trooper was furious..He turned on his siren and flashing lights. I was undeterred, I would not stop, my only interest was finding a gas station to check my car. Seeing the gas station was a little ways up I continued… the trooper close behind me in my draft…

    Pulling in.. the attendent…(in Osh Kosh overalls with the right strap crossed over pinned to the left metal button..) I thought, OMG, He won’t even know where the dipstick is..(.I didn’t know either..) The trooper called out to me… I said: “NOT NOW”.. I can’t, I have to go to the Ladies Room.. He responded with “meet me at the donut shop across the street.”. I said, “fine”.. I went about my business and whatever the car needed.. the attendent took care of..

    After all this, I saw the trooper waiting for me in the parking lot across the street…I walked up to his window… looked at the ticket he was holding in his hand with almost every box checked off… my mind was elsewhere knowing how late I was for this appointment…when he proceeded to run down the list of violations… adding that I almost smashed into his car at the roundabout.. and on and on with the lecture… I finally said, “Just give me the damn ticket and let me be on my way”..

    He looked at me and said, “You know what, you remind me of my wife”…and tore up the ticket right in front of me.. I put my had over my lips and blew him a kiss and off I went.

    I know, I was being unctuous… and I’m not recommending my behavior to anyone… it’s just a true account of what happened… and t turned out for the good.

  120. CNN tells Lou Dobbs that Obama birth certificiate story is “dead” — sort of

    Remember how we were talking the other day about how Lou Dobbs has latched onto the Obama’s birth certificate story that’s STILL making the right wing’s collective leg tingle months after the election? Now CNN president Jon Klein has apparently told Lou’s crew that the Obama’s birth certificate story is “dead.” Sort of.

    The TV Newser blog obtained a copy of a Klein memo that asked CNN’s researchers to check out the story. After they responded by saying it wasn’t much of a story, Klein contacted Lou’s peeps on Thursday:

    “Since the show’s mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead – because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.”

    But not too dead. Lou the Explainer rapped about the issue again Thursday, mentioning CNN’s research. On Friday, Klein seemed to downplay the whole deal, telling Greg Sargent in an interview that Lou is running his own show. Which is the cable news equivalent of saying let “Lou be Lou.” Or, if you’re unfortunate enough to be a Dodger fan, it is the equivalent of saying let “Manny be Manny”:

    “Asked if CNN is concerned that Dobbs’ repeated granting of airtime to theories the network has conclusively debunked amounts to overkill and could harm CNN’s credibility, Klein brushed off the possibility. “We respect our viewers enough to present them the facts and let them make up their own minds,” he said, adding that what Dobbs does is “his editorial decision to make.”

    Meanwhile, the Southern Poverty Law Center called for Lou to get the boot Friday. Normally, we’d figure this controversy would all be a ratings boon for Lou the Englightener but his ratings have been tanking lately.

    sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=44277

  121. The Obama dream turns into nightmare

    By Nile Gardiner

    Today’s Rasmussen Presidential Tracking survey will have hit the poll-obsessed Obama White House like a bullet train at full speed. For the first time, Barack Obama’s approval rating has fallen below 50 per cent among likely voters. 51 per cent of Americans now disapprove of the president, with 38 per cent strongly disapproving. The poll also reveals that 53 per cent oppose the president’s hugely controversial congressional health care reform package, and a mere 31 per cent believe America as a country is heading in the right direction under Obama’s leadership.

    Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina was absolutely right when he pointed out this week that the Obama socialized health care plan could end up being Obama’s Waterloo, though arguably the initial outlook for Napoleon at the start of his own battle was slightly less grim. Even Democrats on Capitol Hill have balked at the huge costs of the $1 trillion Obama proposal, and the Senate has delayed a vote until after the August recess.

    To add to Obama’s woes, unemployment in America now stands at a staggering 9.5 percent and rising (the same level as the Euro area), compared to 7.2 per cent in the UK and 5.2 per cent in Japan, with the U.S. economy continuing to shed hundreds of thousands of jobs every month. According to figures cited by The New York Times, over 3.3 million jobs have been lost since January of this year. Apart from an unexpected rise in profits for prestige investment banks, there is little sign the $787 billion stimulus package is actually working (of which only $100 billion has actually been spent), and the size of America’s debt has reached staggering proportions – about $11 trillion.

    As recent Gallup surveys have shown, the United States remains a largely conservative nation, and Obama’s brand of high spending, high taxing neo-socialism is increasingly rejected by the American public. While much of Europe, including Britain, is moving rightwards, America is the only major country in the Western world whose leadership is dramatically moving to the left. Although he ran for the presidency largely as a centrist, Obama’s government is without doubt the most left-wing administration in American history.

    Even with liberals dominating the Executive Branch and both Houses of Congress, as well as about 80 per cent of America’s print and television media, the Obama team has so far spectacularly failed to win over the American people to a radical big government agenda that seeks to significantly enhance the power of the state over the individual.

    If he is not careful, Barack Obama may end up as one of the least popular presidents in American history. His dream of re-making the world’s greatest power into a large-scale version of modern-day Germany – with high taxation, dominant trade unions, overbearing government bureaucracy, stifling employment regulations, low defence spending, de-nuclearisation, a naive emphasis on soft power, and a constant desire to apologise for the past – is a nightmarish vision that fortunately is opposed by a growing majority of Americans. The spirit of individual liberty and free enterprise remains the most powerful force in the United States today, and any government that goes against it is bound to fail in imposing its agenda.

    blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100004655/the-obama-dream-turns-into-nightmare/

  122. JanH> I know a few people who have worked with Denzel Washington – and they all say that he is a racist; doesn’t like white people a whole lot.

  123. DYB,

    I didn’t know that. I’m sorry I ever thought he was a good person. What a waste of talent.

  124. Thanks, Jan and H4T:

    In hindsight, I guess I was pretty lucky with the officers involved, they weren’t out for blood. The tone since BO is president has changed immensely. His dragging up this Racist BS is pure evil.. It hurts both sides of the problem.

  125. Waxman is threatening to bypass the Blue Dog opposition by taking the bill straight to a floor vote. Will the Blue Dogs cave? There are 52 of them but Pelosi only needs 15 assuming the other democrats vote yes. They must stand firm!

  126. warehouse553

    I wonder how they feel about the power play, being bypassed. In addition, I wonder if they will cave also. But then, O is not looking quite like HE IS THE ONE, of past, and they all eventually have to face the voters that put them in office. \

    Also, they all were involved in the Power Play (fraud), that allowed the primary to be stolen, so with many of their voters they are in the dog house right now, especially since id does not seem to be working out so well.

  127. Even if they treaten with their lives enough Dims to pass this legislation, it will not go to the Senate before the Summer break. If that happens, it is my understanding this is the second issue that the Reps will be left standing on, while the Senators take a brake, and some indicate, will not pass the legislation that the Reps have gone out on a limb with.

    If that happens too often, you look lame.

  128. Denzel played the role of Malcolm X in the movie where the word “Bamboozler” came from. He played the lead in American Gangster.

    He hides the racism very well. Any time he appears in public, he is very humble and respectful, exactly the way he was taught to play it if he wanted to be successful. Denzel has finessed racism to a new level. If he is that… I’m not really sure about that..

    DYB… any examples we can relate to?

  129. I see the dims shoving legislation through over and over again as a walking time bomb for them. They did it with the stimulus and we all know the results. Like NMF says, you do look lame and you have no one to blame but yourselves when it blows up in your face. Bankrupting America is the name of the game.

  130. “Bankrupting America is the name of the game.”

    Thats about it in a nutshell.

    The next question is, How do we stop him for doing it?

    Does Denzel truly understand what Obama is all about?

    Or is he thinking in terms of a docu-drama…

  131. Very interesting.

    nytimes.com/2009/07/26/business/26antitrust.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

    “President Obama’s top antitrust official and some senior Democratic lawmakers are preparing to rein in a host of major industries, including airline and railroad giants, moving so aggressively that they are finding some resistance from officials within the administration.”

    Sounds good, right? Except read this part:

    In a third area, a White House effort to overhaul financial regulation, officials weighed but rejected a significant antitrust role as a way to reduce the size of large companies considered too big to be allowed to fail.

    So, they are going after cable companies on behalf of complaints by Verizon and ATT, (and ATT is a big longtime client of Axelrod’s) but the financial companies are holy taboo cows that can be as big and monopolistic as they please.

    I guess you don’t reign in the extortionists who own you, and threaten to tank the market if you don’t pony up. At least, you don’t if you are a ball-less gutless bought-and-paid-for wonder like Barack Obama.

  132. Denzel Washington to Play President Obama in Biopic
    July 24, 2009
    by:
    Ani Esmailian

    Denzel Washington has reportedly landed the role of President Barack Obama in a new movie and he couldn’t be more thrilled about the news!

    Denzel has expressed his desire to play Obama for months now, but he was scared the movie would take so long to launch, he would be too old to portray him.

    Luckily for Denzel, and us, the movie has gotten the green light and Denzel will play our new President…on the big screen.

    When asked about his new role, Denzel joked, “It was at the President’s suggestion. The only problem is he has bigger ears than me.”

    There aren’t any details surrounding the movie yet, like titles or release dates, but we are certain that Denzel has been casted to play Obama. Who do you think should play his leading lady? Do you think Denzel was a good choice to play Obama?

    hollyscoop.com/movies/denzel-washington/denzel-washington-to-play-president-obama-in-biopic_1614.aspx

  133. By DAN MENHINNITT

    Published: 23 Jul 2009

    DENZEL Washington will play his hero Barack Obama, the star has told Jonathan Ross.

    Speaking on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross the Malcolm X star explained he will play the US president in a biopic film after being suggested for the role by Obama himself.

    The 54-year-old added there were some differences between him and the president.

    “He’s got bigger ears than me,” the movie star joked.

    Denzel also explained he’d been invited out for a game of baseball against the president.

    “I’d beat the hell out of him,” he said.

    He also condemned former president George Bush.

    “We had a rough eight years and he isolated us from the rest of the world, it was embarrassing.”

    He also told Jonathan his wife prefers him when he has a little more meat on his bones.

    “Every wife wants their husband to be plump,” he explained.

    Bond dreams … Quentin Tarantino

    BBC/Rex
    Chat show king Ross will also interview Quentin Tarantino who talks about his dream of directing a Bond movie.

    “I said I wanted to do Casino Royale, they said it was un-filmable… I would have done it with Pierce Brosnan.”

    The 46-year-old also admitted he wooed Hollywood hunk Brad Pitt for his latest movie Inglourious Basterds by getting him drunk on eight bottles of Rosé.

    The episode, the final show of the current season, will be broadcast at 10.35pm on BBC1 tomorrow.

    thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2551091/Denzel-Washington-Ill-play-Obama.html

  134. The vibe I’m getting from Denzel is… he sees Obama as dangerous…

    If he really respected Obama, he would never say, He can beat the hell out of him..

  135. Mrs. Smith,

    I’m not sure what to think. I don’t know how edited this interview was and I was such a fan of Denzel in the past that I really hope he isn’t a racist.

  136. They use race to get ahead and then use it to perpetuate the myth of black men being treated unequally. It is a bullshit as only in America could a AA , with no experience and a history of associating with race baiters, get elected by a majority of white folks.

  137. Good point that whatever excuses Gates may have had for his first reaction — jet lag, surprise — that doesnt’ excuse his conduct later, escalating with his public statements.

    This is a sort of situation that police are trained for: a returning traveler tired, confused, annoyed — and perhaps so tired that he is breaking into the wrong house.

  138. JanH-

    I know how you feel. I’ve always liked Denzel too. For now, I think we can safely give him the benefit of the doubt.

    I don’t think Denzel stokes the fires of racism because he’s lived it as a true AA and doesn’t want his own children to be part of that type of Hate.. Something that doesn’t exist in Obama’s playbook because he’s never lived as an American negro, as Denzel would say, growing up in this country. Obama came here to go to school, he was an adult.

    He never witnessed first hand the work of Civil Rights leaders, MLK. Obama never witnessed the acceptance of black America into the mainstream over the last 50 yrs.

    He never witnessed or admitted knowing the progress Bill Clinton made through his celebrity giving a leg up rehabbing Harlem and locating his post presidential office there.

    All Obama knows is what Rev Wright presched to him over the last 20 yrs.

  139. I’m sure bambi will give Gates a “get out of jail” card. His arrogance in wanting to “teach everyone a lesson” implies that he is blameless as is Gates.

  140. They use race to get ahead and then use it to perpetuate the myth of black men being treated unequally. It is a bullshit as only in America could a AA , with no experience and a history of associating with race baiters, get elected by a majority of white folks
    ———————————————-
    If it is true that a liberal is someone who has never been mugged then I find it hard to believe that a majority of those white folks will make the same mistake twice. Of course next time he will have experience, but it will come at the price of a track record that is oh so easily attacked. We will say we are worse off than we were four years ago. He will say I inherited the mess. And we will say you had four years to fix it, you haven’t so do everyone a favor and get out of the White House, go to Mount Rushmore and open a koolaide stand.

  141. So, they are going after cable companies on behalf of complaints by Verizon and ATT, (and ATT is a big longtime client of Axelrod’s) but the financial companies are holy taboo cows that can be as big and monopolistic as they please.
    ——————————-
    This has been one of my concerns. It fits the Chicago Model. The death of private enterprise. The rise of state capitalism. I dont call it fascism. But some people certainly do.

  142. I’m sure bambi will give Gates a “get out of jail” card. His arrogance in wanting to “teach everyone a lesson” implies that he is blameless as is Gates.
    ———————————-
    It aint selling. 92% of those at fox do not want to move on. The more he pushes this thing the more it is resented. People see the situtation for what it is. People see the pattern here: major gaff=speech=fraud. There is only one teachable lesson here. Discrimination is multi racial and some of he people who make a market in it are also some of its most eggregious practioners. Words do not matter when they are not matched by action.

  143. NewMexicoFan, re: 8:34 p.m. “Does Admin have a Cop Story?”

    Answer: We have the right to remain silent. Anything we say can and will be used against us. We have the right to consult with an attorney and to have that attorney present during questioning. If we cannot afford an attorney, we will ask that one be appointed for us. We understand these are our rights. We will not be compelled to bear witness against ourselves. We will insist on full due process of law before we are deprived of life, liberty, or property.

    🙂

  144. to have that attorney present during questioning.
    *********
    That may not be true now. After the Obama DOJ asked the SC to overturn “Michigan v Jackson” and they did on on May 26, 2009.

  145. Lobbyists the silver lining in health care storm?

    WASHINGTON – A strong force, perhaps as powerful in Congress as President Barack Obama, is keeping the drive for health care going even as lawmakers seem hopelessly at odds.

    Lobbyists.

    The drug industry, the American Medical Association, hospital groups and the insurance lobby are all saying Congress must make major changes this year. Television ads paid for by drug companies and insurers continued to emphasize the benefits of a health care overhaul — not the groups’ objections to some of the proposals.

    “My gut is telling me that something major can pass because all the people who could kill it are still at the table,” said Ken Thorpe, chairman of health policy at Emory University in Atlanta. “Everybody has issues with bits and pieces of it, but all these groups want to get something done this year.” As a senior official at the Health and Human Services department in the 1990s, Thorpe was deeply involved in the Clinton administration’s failed effort.

    President Barack Obama on Saturday continued his full-court press to pass health care reform legislation. In his weekly Internet and radio address, Obama cited a new White House study indicating that small businesses pay far more per employee for health insurance than big companies — a disparity he says is “unsustainable — it’s unacceptable.”

    “And it’s going to change when I sign health insurance reform into law,” Obama said, adding that he has “a sense of urgency about moving this process forward.”

    This time, the health care industry groups see a strategic opportunity. As lawmakers squabble, the groups are focused on how to come out ahead in the end game.

    “We’re still optimistic that we can get health care reform accomplished,” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, the main insurance industry trade group. “There is strong support from policymakers and from across the health care sector. ”

    more at:

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090726/ap_on_go_ot/us_health_care_overhaul_silver_lining

    This bill is a boon for the insurance industry. It may end like Medicare Part D; expensive, layered with paperwork, denials, complications, inconvenient, and of no benefit to anyone.

  146. of no benefit to anyone.
    ********
    Except Big Pharma…no negotiations for drug prices, top dollar for drugs using tax payer dollars. As you point out the Obama “Health Insurance Reform” is a “brand new” influx of patients into the insurance system, suplimented by $1+++ trillion tax dollars. The health care debate was won when the public accepted the “Trojan Horse” of the Federal Health Plan..”We want what Congress has” class envy etc. That shut the door on single-payer and the rest of the discussion is how many tax dollar to give to the insurance companies. With the current legislation, the Insurance Companies are saying “Please don’t throw us in the “briar-patch”.

  147. “… he’s never lived as an American Negro. Obama came here to go to school, he was an adult. He never witnessed first hand the work of Civil Rights leaders, MLK. Obama never witnessed the acceptance of black America into the mainstream over the last 50 yrs.
    He never witnessed or admitted knowing the progress Bill Clinton made through his celebrity giving a leg up rehabbing Harlem and locating his post presidential office there.”

    Perhaps this explains why I always feel, when 0fraud0 opines on racism, that the last 40 or 50 years never happened. I know it did because I was part of the civil rights movement but it’s like a crazy time warp when it comes to him. According to him, no progress has been made. So silly coming from someone who (even if he cheated) is sitting in the WH.

    All Obama knows is what Rev Wright presched to him over the last 20 yrs.

  148. CBO deals new blow to health plan
    By: Chris Frates
    July 25, 2009 02:47 PM EST

    For the second time this month, congressional budget analysts have dealt a blow to the Democrat’s health reform efforts, this time by saying a plan touted by the White House as crucial to paying for the bill would actually save almost no money over 10 years.

    A key House chairman and moderate House Democrats on Tuesday agreed to a White House-backed proposal that would give an outside panel the power to make cuts to government-financed health care programs. White House budget director Peter Orszag declared the plan “probably the most important piece that can be added” to the House’s health care reform legislation.

    But on Saturday, the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal to give an independent panel the power to keep Medicare spending in check would only save about $2 billion over 10 years- a drop in the bucket compared to the bill’s $1 trillion price tag.

    “In CBO’s judgment, the probability is high that no savings would be realized … but there is also a chance that substantial savings might be realized. Looking beyond the 10-year budget window, CBO expects that this proposal would generate larger but still modest savings on the same probabilistic basis,” CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf wrote in a letter to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Saturday.

    On his White House blog, Orszag – who served as CBO director in 2007 and 2008 – downplayed the office’s small probable savings number in favor of the proposal’s more speculative long-term benefits.

    “The point of the proposal, however, was never to generate savings over the next decade. … Instead, the goal is to provide a mechanism for improving quality of care for beneficiaries and reducing costs over the long term,” Orszag wrote. “In other words, in the terminology of our belt-and-suspenders approach to a fiscally responsible health reform, the IMAC is a game changer not a scoreable offset.”

    But scoreable offsets are the immediate savings that fiscally conservative Blue Dogs and other Democratic moderates have been pushing for precisely because they will help offset the bill’s cost.

    The proposal’s meager savings are a blow to Democrats working furiously to bring down costs in order to win support from Blue Dogs, who have threatened to vote against the bill without significant changes. The proposal was heralded as a breakthrough on Tuesday after Blue Dogs and House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman emerged from the White House with agreement on giving the independent panel, rather than Congress, the ability to rein in Medicare spending.

    Republicans pounced on CBO’s analysis as another demonstration that Democratic proposals don’t control costs.

    “The President said that rising health care costs are an imminent threat to our economy and that any reform must reduce these long-term costs. But CBO has made clear once again that the Democrats’ bills in Congress aren’t reducing costs and in fact could just make the problem worse,” said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell.

    Saturday’s CBO analysis caps a tough week of blown deadlines, partisan bickering and fierce intra-party fighting among Democrats. On Friday, the tension between the Blue Dogs and Waxman exploded when Waxman threatened to bypass his committee and bring the reform bill straight to the House floor without a vote. The move infuriated Blue Dogs who have used their crucial committee votes to leverage changes to the bill.

    But by late Friday, Waxman said their colleagues had pulled the two groups “back from the brink” and back to the negotiating table.

    Still, Hoyer said there was little chance that that the House would pass a health reform legislation before Friday when lawmakers are expected to leave Washington for summer recess.

    House Republican Leader John Boehner’s office said that it’s time to hit the legislation’s reset button.

    “This letter underscores the enormous challenges that Democrats face trying to pay for their massive and costly government takeover of health care. In their rush to pass a bill, Democrats continue to ignore the stark economic reality facing our nation,” said Boehner spokeswoman Antonia Ferrier. “Let’s scrap the current proposal and come together in a meaningful way to reform health care in America by reducing cost, expanding access and at a price tag we can afford.”

    © 2009 Capitol News Company, LLC

  149. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 30% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9. (see trends).

    The number who Strongly Disapprove of the President has increased slightly following the prime time press conference on Wednesday night. That figure—39%–is now at the highest level yet recorded. As a result, the overall Approval Index has fallen to the lowest level yet recorded for this President. [snip]

    Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. This is the second straight day that his overall approval rating has been below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove. [snip]

    More than two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were completed after the President’s nationally televised press conference on Wednesday night. The first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the press conference will be released on Sunday.

  150. CBO deals new blow to health plan
    By: Chris Frates
    July 25, 2009 02:47 PM EST

    For the second time this month, congressional budget analysts have dealt a blow to the Democrat’s health reform efforts, this time by saying a plan touted by the White House as crucial to paying for the bill would actually save almost no money over 10 years.
    ——————————-
    More proof that Obama Reid and Pelosi haven’t the slightest idea what they are doing. No judgment whatsoever. Boehners comments are on point. Thanks Warehouse.

  151. More than two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were completed after the President’s nationally televised press conference on Wednesday night. The first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the press conference will be released on Sunday
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    The wizard of oooze obama is slipping. Time was when those press confrerences could move the needle. Not any more.

  152. Hope this is not a repeat:
    Freshman senators call for more health cost cuts
    By: Susan Ferrechio
    Chief Congressional Correspondent
    07/24/09 3:33 PM EDT
    Nearly the entire freshman Democratic class in the Senate sent a letter to Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., telling him to keep cutting costs from his bipartisan health care plan.
    The letter sends a strong signal to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., that any final senate bill will probably have to look a lot more like the yet-completed Baucus proposal, which is shrinking in cost, than the Kennedy bill, which has a $1 trillion price tag and calls for the creation of a massive government insurance option.
    The letter was initiated by Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., and Michael Bennett, D-Colo. and included every freshman Democrat except for Al Franken, D-Minn.

    (www.)washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Freshman-senators-call-for-more-health-cost-cuts–51589712.html

  153. wbboei,

    Thank you for citing the article that I posted. Hopefully the momentum shifting away from Obama is permanent!

  154. Admin 11:42

    Ah! Maybe you have a better cop story than the rest of us. It must take some practice to recite that stuff. Either that or your lawyer/policeperson background is showing.

  155. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Sunday, July 26, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory.

    Hopefully more people will continue to see the light!

  156. Well well well, Obama at -11

    he Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory.

    Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

  157. Sun, Jul. 26, 2009

    Obama failing to make plan deficit-neutral

    Matt Mackowiak (is president of Potomac Strategy Group and was press secretary to two Republican senators)

    There is an important thread that connects the failed stimulus bill and current efforts to reform health care: the federal deficit. And there is only one group on Capitol Hill with the commitment, credibility, and political mind-set to block the current health-care legislation.

    The Blue Dog Coalition is currently made up of 52 conservative and moderate Democratic members of Congress and has been in existence for 15 years. The organization exists, primarily, to join politically vulnerable Democrats and serve as a moderating influence on the larger and more liberal Democratic caucus.

    On the organization’s Web site, you’ll find the following figured prominently: “Currently, the U.S. Debt is estimated at: $11,226,807,380,955.11. Your share of today’s public debt is: $36,683.01.” The Blue Dogs have kept a laserlike focus on the federal deficit in recent years.

    On July 13, the federal deficit reached $1 trillion for the first time in U.S. history, and there is now real concern about near-term inflation and necessary interest-rate increases. The federal deficit for the year is expected to be $1.8 trillion – a sum greater than the last five years combined.

    Why does this matter?

    The $787 billion stimulus bill, the most expensive in U.S. history, was signed into law on Feb. 18. Since that time, the national unemployment rate has reached 9.5 percent, a 26-year high. Unemployment seems likely headed into double digits this year and is higher than the Obama administration projected. Additionally, less than 10 percent of the stimulus funding has gone out the door since the bill was designed to spend more from 2011-2019 than it would this year, when the need is greatest.

    The Blue Dogs were willing to support the stimulus, and the significant increase in the deficit, with the hope and expectation that the bill would forestall an economic depression and lead to a rosier economic picture by the end of this year. That has not happened.

    The question is, do regular people really care about the deficit? The answer appears to be yes. A poll released on July 20 conducted by the Washington Post and ABC News showed that public approval with President Obama’s handling of the deficit is now at 43 percent, with more independents disapproving than approving (48 percent to 42). Interestingly, the public does not just disapprove of his handling of the deficit; they prefer deficit reduction to increased spending to revive the economy by 55 to 40 percent in the same poll.

    What does this all mean?

    The Obama administration has made major health-care reform its signature domestic policy goal this year and set a deadline of early August for both houses to pass legislation.

    The perceived failure of the stimulus bill made health-care reform even more complicated because Obama felt he had to promise that the bill would be deficit-neutral to attract Blue Dog support. With Republicans unanimously opposing the Democratic health-care bill, Obama must have the Blue Dogs to pass it.

    But in order for the bill to be deficit-neutral, Obama and the Democrats have had to include unpopular provisions: slashing reimbursement rates, increasing taxes on small businesses and the wealthy, mandating that employers provide coverage or pay not to, and including a public option.

    A poll released on July 20 by the USA Today and Gallup found that by a margin of 50 to 44 percent, Americans disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care.

    This complicated health-care plan, which is still coming together on Capitol Hill, has left Obama playing defense on the issue. Recently, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reported to House Democrats that the legislation would not be deficit-neutral and would, in fact, add $239 billion to the deficit over 10 years.

    Of the three committees in the House with jurisdiction over health care, two have reported their bills out. However, the third, the Energy and Commerce Committee, according to the Wall Street Journal, includes “a large bloc of members of the Blue Dog Coalition [who] have been raising concerns about the cost of the House leadership plan.” The Blue Dogs have said that it takes seven votes to block the bill in committee and they have 10.

    The irony of this situation is that Obama and the Democratic Congress rushed through a terrible stimulus bill, wasting their one opportunity to add to the deficit without risking major Blue Dog defections. Because the economy has worsened and the stimulus bill has had no real positive effect, Democrats in vulnerable districts are requiring that health-care reform not add to the deficit, which in turn is imperiling the bill’s passage.

    philly.com/inquirer/currents/20090726_Obama_failing_to_make_plan_deficit-neutral.html

  158. I hate it when pollsters try and stick up for people. Very poor journalism from Rassmussen. Why have the headline as “26% Say Obama Response Good or Excellent on Cambridge Cop Question” instead of “46% Say Obama Response Poor on Cambridge Cop Question” so really 74% said poor or bad. Thats really holding an oar up for Obama.

    (26%) of voters nationwide say President Obama did a good or excellent job answering a press conference question about an incident involving a white Cambridge, Massachusetts policeman and a black Harvard professor. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 46% rate the president’s response as poor.

    But Americans are evenly divided as to whether or not the question – asked by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times – was appropriate to ask at a presidential press conference. Forty-one percent (41%) say it was appropriate while 43% disagree.

    eventy-one percent (71%) of African-Americans say the president’s response was good or excellent, a view shared by just 22% of white Americans.

    At the other extreme, 53% of white voters gave the president’s response a poor grade. Only five percent (5%) of black Americans offered such a negative response.

    African-Americans, by a two-to-one margin, say the question was inappropriate. Whites are fairly evenly divided on the appropriateness of the question.

    Seventy-three percent (73%) of African-American voters believe that most blacks receive unfair treatment from the police. Just 21% of white voters share that view

    Thirty-two percent (32%) of black voters say that most policemen are racist, but 52% disagree.

    Among white voters, just seven percent (7%) believe that most policemen are racist and 71% say they are not.

    On a partisan basis, 50% of Democrats say the president’s response was good or excellent. White Democrats are less supportive than black Democrats. The president’s response earned a poor rating from 77% of Republicans and 52% of those not affiliated with either major party.

    Liberals, by a two-to-one margin believe that most African-Americans are treated unfairly by the police. A solid plurality of unaffiliateds and a majority of Republicans disagree.

    About the only area of common ground is that people of all parties, ideologies and races have been following the news story about Gates and the Cambridge policeman. Overall, 75% say they’re paying attention, including 51% who say they’re following it very closely.

  159. I was reminded again today of how much I love Bill Clinton. No, he wasn’t perfect. But he has been the only president in my lifetime who actually knew how to make govt work efficiently, provide good public services, consider the public welfare, and do it without expanding govt needlessly or spending like a maniac. No one since him, Democrat OR Republican, has had a clue about thrift and efficiency.

    Take a look at this. Notice during what years “Govt spending as a percent of GDP” consistently and significantly DECLINES.

    It weren’t Saint Ronnie, folks. It was freaking William Jefferson Clinton.

    usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1903_2010&view=1&expand=&units=p&fy=fy10&chart=F0-total&bar=0&stack=1&size=m&title=US%20Government%20Spending%20As%20Percent%20Of%20GDP&state=US&color=c&local=c

  160. I am sick to death of these Dims AND these Repubs, and their squabbling over what govt should be.

    They all just want to argue over “Big! No, small! Expand it! No, drown it!”

    Bill’s approach was, “Doesn’t matter – how about we just make it WORK.” Hillary’s would have been the same.

  161. how much chicago thuggery pressure is being applied to the cambridge police not to release the audio tapes? any guesses as to whether the audio will ever be heard?

  162. moononpluto

    I have wondered at the presentation of those stats myself. Why would you present the lower state, which appears to make it look more significant.

  163. its ridiculous, NMF, if the majority rate it as poor or bad, thats the headline, not trying to spin it as in any way good. Its basically trying to bury the bad headline completely. Ridiculous journalism.

  164. I see that george stephanopoulis has put on Donna Brazoid to help defend the Prez. She will work about as much as it did when Lou Dobbs put on Roland(newblackpantherparty) from CNN.
    The Prez put his foot in his mouth again with the gatesgate and he is trying desperately to cover up the fact that he is a racist, just like Rev. Wright is. America is waking up to him. I just hope its not too late to save the U.S.

  165. I also get pissed off at the current democrats who want to trash Bill out of one side of their mouth, but claim his achievements as “proof” that democrats are better out of the other side.

    No, you pigs, the only thing that proves is that HE was better. It doesn’t say f*ck-all about YOU.

  166. May I just say that Hillary’s appearance on Meet the Press get an A+ from me. In my mind she presents herself in a very presidential manner.

    bambi could learn a lot from her on tact and diplomacy.

  167. As I listened to Hillary on “Meet the Press” I was struck by the obvious simple facts

    Hillary Clinton is smart
    Hillary Clinton is a beautiful woman who stands up for women
    Hillary Clinton engages her mind before her mouth
    Hillary Clinton is not a fraud although she is from Chicago
    Hillary Clinton should have been president
    Our country needs Hillary Clinton to get us out of the mess we are in with Barack Obama as the “leader”

    Through the entire interview with David Gregory, I was so thankful
    that Tim Russert was not there!

  168. Hillary Clinton is smart
    Hillary Clinton is a beautiful woman who stands up for women
    Hillary Clinton engages her mind before her mouth
    Hillary Clinton is not a fraud although she is from Chicago

    Hillary Clinton should have been president and the begging question is “why the fuck is Obama? He is dumbass personified, you could have voted in Paris Hilton instead of bambi and got the same results we are getting now.

  169. On the flip side of the “Meet the Press” Hillary interview, it was hard to listen ot her praise THE FRAUD.

    If you get to watch the interview, note that after Hillary piles it on about the great Barack Obama as president, it seemed like she was telling a little (big) white lie so bad that she had to gulp down a swallow of coffee or whatever it was to wash the taste out of her mouth.

  170. Southern born,

    I agree.

    I was also disappointed she basically ruled out another prez run.

    MRS. SMITH!

    Great cop story! 😉

  171. Oboob’s Rasmussen approval index for today just out. He lost another 2 points, and it’s now -11!!

    rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

  172. Southern Born,

    For me personally, I think it is very easy to gloss over her words about bambi and think he is her hero. Her tact is most in use here. There are enough holes and questions in her statements about him and so much generality that she gets a pass from me. She Praises him by giving him credit for the “buck stops here” with all policy moves. In effect, she is stating that he is POTUS and she isn’t, he makes final decisions and must be held accountable for them.

    She also has to be very cognizant that the media is just waiting to pounce on her if she says anything negative about their wunderkind. I would think that taking the high road here is both prudent and smart.

    At least that’s the way I interpreted her answers.

  173. She said, that she was very happpy as SOS, that she felt like the ‘luckiest woman in the world,’ having being First Lady, the NYS Senator, now SOS, that she didn’t see that in her future, that she was strongly behind BO . . . .

    That she wanted to see a woman prez in her lifetime but it had to be the right woman, that she didn’t know how else to answer the questions, she’d already said no, never, not in the cards . . .

    IMHO, she completely ruled it out. What does everyone else think?

  174. What is interesting is that almost ALL of his detractors feel very strongly, whereas fewer of his supporters feel strongly.

    50% total disapprove, but 40% STRONGLY so.

    49% total approve, but only 29% STRONGLY so.

    That means that of his approvers, a good chunk of them are at least a little “meh” about it. Not so for his detractors. He’s split almost half-and-half as far as approval, but a BIG gap in how strong those feelings are on either side.

  175. basil,

    I have no idea if she really believes that or not. Again I think if she had said the opposite the media would have burned her at the stake, opened up imagined scandals about her again, and upped the level of Clinton hatred once more.

    So I believe she would never say never but at the moment it is no. And there would have to be some very extreme happenings for her to consider changing her mind.

  176. Hillary Clinton is smart enough to know that a woman cannot be elected President of the United States, at this time, in this generation. Look what they’ve gone to Palin.

    When today’s college women are 60 years old and watched another 10 elections come and go with the excuse that every woman in the country is “just not the right woman”, another 10 elections of code words, they might start to wake up and get serious about pushing back. I’m guessing sometime around 2050 or so.

  177. Basil . . . Come on it is politics. Suppose she had said maybe. Would that not become a distaction to the job. Would that not become the headline. Would that not cause the bots to behave like in a three stooges movie. I think it would be self defeating at this point. It would suck the oxygen out of the room when there are very serious problems to deal with. When things go wrong the buck stops with Bambi. The dynamic has to change before anything like that is possible. The world we get from the media is the alternative universe. The media cares that this denzel washington drank the koolaid but as they see it this is simply a case of racial identification and they dont give a damned. You do not surive in politics by wearing your heart on the sleeve or by making media privy to your future plans before its time. All that said, and not watching the interview myself I would not parse her words too closely on this subject except saying that the buck stops with him. Much harder for the media to blame her for his policies.

  178. July 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
    Hillary Clinton is smart enough to know that a woman cannot be elected President of the United States, at this time, in this generation. Look what they’ve gone to Palin.

    When today’s college women are 60 years old and watched another 10 elections come and go with the excuse that every woman in the country is “just not the right woman”, another 10 elections of code words, they might start to wake up and get serious about pushing back. I’m guessing sometime around 2050 or so.
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    You are right. It will not happen, unless it is Hillary.

  179. wwboei 11:30

    I agree, public and private statements are very different. She also wants to continue to stay in the Dims party (better her than me). There will be no suggestion of this from HRC, unless they throw O to the wolves.

  180. Hillary Clinton: ‘Advisor,’ team player

    July 26, 2009 11:15 AM
    by Mark Silva

    It’s 3 a.m.

    The telephone is ringing in the White House.

    Wrong number.

    The national security line has been set on call-forwarding to the Naval Observatory, the vice president’s domain. The crisis hot-lines are ringing on the desks of Richard Holbrooke, special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, George Mitchell, envoy to the Middle East, and Dennis Ross, expert on the Iranian nuclear question.

    Right?

    Wrong, says Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who campaigned for president with warnings that her Democratic rival, Barack Obama, wasn’t ready for that late-night call in crisis. Now confronting an array of world crises as the nation’s chief diplomat, Clinton is asserting her command , and Obama’s competence, on several international fronts.

    “The United States is back, and we’re ready to lead,” Clinton said this morning, in an interview on NBC News’ Meet the Press today.

    “Part of what we’ve done is organize ourselves so we can concentrate on many important issues at the same time,” Clinton said. “I think it would be diplomatic malpractice not to have people of experience handling some of our most difficult challenges on a day-to-day basis…”

    The Bush administration focused so much on some issues, such as Iraq, she said, that much of the rest of the world felt as if they were “second tier… The United States cannot solve all of the problems of the world, but the rest of the world can’t solve them without the United States.”

    She was asked about a recent comment that she may have broken her elbow, but not her “larynx.”

    “The president is the president, and the president is responsible for setting policy. We have a great relationship. I see him several times a week, at least one on one,” she said. “I am the chief advisor on foreign policy, but the president makes the decisions…. At the end of the day, it is the president who has to articulate and set policy… But I know very well that a team that works together is going to do a better job for America.”

    On the domestic front as well, the former first lady who fought for healthcare reform during her husband’s administration, the president will succeed — he will achieve reform, she said. And he did the right thing, she said, on that thorny matter of Harvard Professor Henry Gates’ arrest in Cambridge in his own home.

    “He’s going to have a beer with Professor Gates and Officer Crowley,” Clinton said. “That’s leadership by example, and I commend him for that.”.

    Still the quetion remains: What about her?

    When will the nation see a woman as president?

    What’s it going to take for a woman to be president?

    “It’s going to take the right woman,” Clinton said. “II’m certainly hoping it happens in my lifetime…

    “I am convinced, and I don’t know if she is in elective office right now, or if she is preparing to run for office, but there is a woman who I am hoping is ” preparing for the job. Aked about Republican Sarah Palin’s comment that Clinton cracked the glass ceiling and now it’s Palin’s chance to break it, she was aksed if Palin offers that candidate/ “I’m out of politics,” Clinton said. “I would wish her well in her private life.”

    Will Clinton run again?

    “The answer is no, I don’t know how many… I say, no, never, not at all,” she said. “I have absolutely no belief in my mind that that is going to happen, that I have any interest in that happening.”

    The story for the world to know, she suggested, is that a team of former rivals is working toether: “”I think that’s the story. This is how democracy works… I’ve moved on. It’s very important to move on.”

    What has Obama proved to her as president that she hadn’t appreciated as a rival candidate, Clinton was asked. “I always had a very healthy respect for his intelligence, for his world view, for his understanding of the complexity that we face,” she said. “Now, having worked for him for six months, now what I see is his (focus), his discipline, his approach to difficult problems. ”

    “I’m here to say,” Clinton said of Obama, “as somebody who spent an enormous time and energy running against him, I think his experience in office has been incredible. ”

    What an array of challenges they face.

    Clinton said this about North Korea’s provocative missile testing and other actions in a news interview on Monday: “Maybe it’s the mother in me or the experience that I’ve had with small children and unruly teenagers and people who are demanding attention –don’t give it to them. They don’t deserve it.”

    (As a mother of one, she raised the question of which other “unruly” children she was speaking of here.)

    The North Korean government responded to the secretary of state’s comments rather curtly: “We cannot regard Mrs. Clinton as a funny lady. Sometimes she looks like a silly schoolgirl.”

    Clinton laughed like one when read the retaliatory comment this morning, during an hour-long interview. But there isn’t anything funny about the situation in Pyongyang — “destabilizing” for the region, was the secretary’s way of putting it.

    Is North Korea a threat to the United States?

    “That is unlikely,” Clinton said, speaking of U.S. defenses and North Korea’s limited abilities. “But they are a threat to our friends and allies… Therefore, they trigger a response from us.”

    Is Iran’s reelected regime illegitimate?

    “That’s really for the Iranians to decide,” Clinton said, suggesting that a nation with a cultural history such as Iran’s “deserves better than what they’re getting.”

    What about “resetting” that Russian button?

    Clinton was read Biden’s recent published comments about Russia’s situation, with leaders there “clinging to something of the past that is not sustainable.” Clinton said: “We wanted to reset our relations with Russia… We know that is not easily (achieved.)”

    “We view Russia as a great power,” she said. “Every country has their challenges. We have our challenges… As we reset our relationship, we are very clearly saying that Russia cannot have a 20th Century sphere of influence” in its region. “What we’re seeing here is the beginning of the resetting of that relationship.

    “We have continuing questions about some of their policies. They have continuing questions about some of ours.”

    With a surge of forces underway in Afghanistan, has this become President Obama’s “war of choice?” Gregory asked.

    “We know that the threat to the United States, and in fact those who plotted and carried out the horrific attack against our country on 9./11 have not been killed or captured,” Clinton replied. “So the president’s goal is to dismantle and eventually destroy and defeat al Qaeda.”

    Is a war with the Taliban a good use of U.S. power?

    “Al Qaeda is supported by and uses its extremist allies, like elements within the Taliban and other extremist groups… to extend its reach, to be proxies for some of its attacks… In order to really go after al Qaeda, to uproot it and destroy it, we have to go after those who were providing al Qaeda safe haven….

    “To withdraw our presence or to keep it on the low-level which had been demonstrated ineffective,” she said, would send the message that the U.S. was “leaving the field to them.” The Taliban is “now under tremendous pressure,” she said, “and I think that is in America’s interest.”

    swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/07/hillary_clinton_advisor_team_p.html

  181. People need to realize that Hillary is not going to let one negative word about the boob cross her lips. It would be the worst thing she could do, and take the focus OFF him, and put it ON her.

    She wants that focus right where it is, smack dab on his sorry failing ass, thank you, and will be nothing but sugar-mouth and sweet as pie while he commits political suicide all by his own self.

    She may or may not ever run for president again, but one thing I do know. She will be standing there watching, still respected and still effective, when Mr. Hopenchangen implodes.

  182. HillaryforTexas Says:

    July 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am

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    I couldn’t agree more!

  183. I have a strong hunch that the Chicago Machine is the one who is behind the rumors about Rendell. I have been aware of those rumors for about ten years, but only now are they coming to life. I know most people do not believe the daley people behave this way, but if you read what I posted the other day, you will get a sense of the how and the why of it. The operative question is not whether they could do it, or would do it, or have done it to others in the past. The answer to those questions is an unequivocal yes. The question is did they do it here. Whatever the res gestae, and however it came up, my instincts tell me they had a part in it. I hope it is repudiated, because as far as I am concerned he is a good man, and one of the greatest impediments to effective governement is politics by scandal. You can thank big media for that one too.

  184. Hillary saying she’s contemplating a future Presidential run would mean that her every move and statement would be parsed and interpreted as involving her desire to be President. And they’d see all kinds of activities that threaten Obama in her actions.

    Having said that, I don’t think Hillary will run for President again.

  185. I don’t think she will run again. If you watch her closely as I did during the interview, she says’ no regrets she gave it all she had. When a person does this and is cheated, you can bet she wont be able to get up enough to do it again. She also said it was a daunting task to run for President.
    I wonder if they pulled her out to somehow let us know that she has been advising him on healthcare. They did not spend much time on healthcare, but enough for us to know she advises him on many issues. She also stayed away for gatesgate.

  186. wbboei, if it’s Rendell who has been dallying, I have little doubt that Chicago thugs are the leakers. They have never forgiven him for sticking so hard with Hillary, and he’s also been on TV alot, not exactly criticizing, but being…… less than completely enthusiastic about Obama’s programs.

  187. Hillary, that is what I am thinking. At some point they will step on a booby trap. They are Nixonian in that respect.

  188. Al Sharpton’s lying ass is now on TV saying he never claimed the Gates incident was racial profiling. He’s walking it back BIGTIME, going on and on about how he is really only concerned about police abuse of power, whether black or white.

    May I remind you of what Al was blabbing on TV the moment the news broke?

    “I’ve heard of driving while black, and I’ve heard of shopping while black. But I’ve never heard of living in a home while black.”

    Methinks someone has gotten word that those tapes don’t sound so good for the professor, and Obama’s polls are dropping, so they’d better STFU with the race-baiting.

  189. DYB

    Who were your sources for calling Denzel racist… “he hates whites?”

    What words were spoken to you for you to get that impression?

  190. Confloyd, questions like that answer themselves with the passage of time. Perhaps you do not want to leave it open, but want to resolve it in your mind with finality and move on. I am prepared to take a wait and see approach. We cannot wait to know the answer. The overriding question is whether he and his Chicago Machine can be stopped before they destroy the country and whether the Republican Party can field the right candidate. I think the answer to both questions is yes, and the divining rod is the not what these bought and paid for pundits tell us but what the polls say.

    I really believe something has shifted here and again it is just an instinct. I think she is running foreign policy now, and I expect that will continue. If he or his minions try to marginalize her again–because that is what they were doing, then all bets are off. And the buck stops with him means that his minions will not be able to avail themeselves of the good cop bad cop role.

    Now I am going to get real petty. I do not care about what happens in foreign policy nearly as much as I care about what happens to this economy. And I do not see the answers forthcoming.

  191. Al Sharpton’s lying ass is now on TV saying he never claimed the Gates incident was racial profiling. He’s walking it back BIGTIME, going on and on about how he is really only concerned about police abuse of power, whether black or white.
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    Tawana Brawley II.

  192. Wbboei, health care and the economy are the two biggies for me. The present health care bill is a disaster and a gift to the insurance industry and drug companies. Of course, I am concerned about how the bill might affect my small corner of the world. I have nightmares of how much worse the paper work might become. It is already a nightmare and takes away from a provider’s time with the patient.

  193. Obama’s Hate America racial profiling began at his mother’s knee. Obama has never known anything else nor does he want to know any other way.

    This is why I say Crowley has got to take this Bull by the castagnas and run with it. Otherwise, Sharpton, Gates and Obama will twist and turn the events around in their rendition of what happened at the Gates residence with Sgt Crowley and their version will eventually become the official version.

  194. This nation is blessed to have such a leader as Hillary as SoS.A true national treasure like no other ever before her.The interview should be put into public domain and given to all schools and colleges.Perhaps our young people would learn what respect,patriotism,loyalty and diplomacy are so important in all of our lives. She gave a ten star performance and Gregory was fair and prfessional in his questioning.Now let me make it clear that I still distrust MSM “Gummie Puppen” interrogaters and their sponsers and he still works for Geffen,Welch and MSNBC and he lives in a million dollar mansion and his neighbors are Tweety Maththews and the late Russert.My take is that they now know that they put Obama in office and their sins have caght up with them.Hillary is much too smart to be entrapped by these hungry vultures who are seeking grist for their mills of destruction.
    Obama will continue to self destruct
    and the time will soon come when he
    will ask us to get him out of his miser-
    able job.
    I can just hear him singing out that
    great Humperdinck song.

    “Please Impeach ME Let Me Go For You Don’t Love ME Anymore”

    By ABM90- This was on of the best days that I have enjoyed in years.
    Seeing our next and 45th president,
    standing tall and ready to assume the presidency when the country has had its fill of miserable ,incompetent and
    race ridden weak leadership that we have ever been faced with.

  195. Alexrod on John King’s show said that he and his bunch never think about Sarah Palin and whether she will run for president against BO. Oh, sure.

    After seeing and listening to Alexrod you just feel greasy and dirty and like you need an industrial strength shower.

    Al Sharpton, Jackson, CLyburn, Brassile, Patrick, the mayor of ?San Fran? who was misusing funds, Roland Martin, Eugene Robinson, Gates and on and on. Unfortunately it seems like a pattern and it is disgusting stuff.

  196. wbboei, I think she was truly hurt by the cheating that went on, you can see it when she said “she gave it all she had”. That kind of pain doesn’t get well overnight, so we will just wait and see. I did notice how Gregory seemed to be handling her in a nice way, but during the playback of the question of the Indian lady asking her if she would run again, I noticed that extended cackle that MSM loves to run. I think she recognized it too. She did a small double take on the laugh. I think it was deliberately done. I hope that it comes out on utube, because the laugh had a little longer extension than did the video. It did not look like on the video that she was not laughing, it looked like she was smiling during the question.
    Jimmy Kimmel did a skit the other night, it was a fake roast of Hillary by the North Korea govt., it was groetesque. They alluded to her and Bill’s relationship and was quiet nasty for our current SOS. I was surprised that no one on the blogs seem to mind what was said.

  197. Confloyd. Kimmel is a maggot. I have written to cbs about him for all the good it does. Maybe I will run into him some day. For every wrong there is a remedy.

  198. wbboei, I think she was truly hurt by the cheating that went on, you can see it when she said “she gave it all she had”.
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    I think what bothered her is the people like Richardson who betraryed the people who had made them who they are, and the people who promised to stand their ground and then buckled. Frankly, the lack of honest leadership in this country is a depressing subject. And the chicago machine in the white house bodes ill for the future. Unfortunately, it is symptomatic of what we have become as a nation. The trick is to avoid becoming one of them.

  199. This is why I say Crowley has got to take this Bull by the castagnas and run with it. Otherwise, Sharpton, Gates and Obama will twist and turn the events around in their rendition of what happened at the Gates residence with Sgt Crowley and their version will eventually become the official version
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    I aint so sure about the guy. He voted for Bambi, and the proximity to power will get to him. I will be shocked if he stands his ground.

  200. “Please Impeach ME Let Me Go For You Don’t Love ME Anymore”
    ————————————
    Very good ABM 90.

    With respect to the presidency it is always a case of the man, the moment and the message. Man in this case is also understood to mean woman, where Hillary is concerned. 2008 was a watershed moment. 2012 will be too. Pain will mean change.

    With respect to foreign affairs the truth nobody wants to say is foreign leaders do not respect Obama. Nor do they trust him. That is why her star is rising–or so it seems.

  201. I was surprised that no one on the blogs seem to mind what was said.
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    I have a post on NQ coming up on NK’s bizarre comments.. (I don’t say anything in the post on Kimmel and his ilk) but I bring up the fact that we can dismiss NK as crazy but what do we do with the crazies right here at home.

  202. wbboei and others who are unmoved by HRC’s declarations she won’t run again and she’s just playing the political game, i hope you’re right.

    OTOH,

    Check this GORGEOUS pic of her on Drudge, with the headline iran won’t get nukes. Teal green is her color. 🙂

    www dot drudgereport dot com/

  203. IMO
    What HRC said this morning re will she run for prez again was what do you want me to say? No? Never? The fact is that I am so totally and happily immersed in my current job that I am not thinking about the future. I’m not the kind of person who thinks that far ahead
    (from one job to another without doing the current job properly — a la Fraud)

    When asked her opinion about his performance so far she said he’s doing an INCREDIBLE job. That is NOT praise. Incredible means unbelievable, not believable. In other words, I can’t believe this.

    She chooses her words well and we really have to listen closely.
    And she reminded us in plain language that the SOS works for the President. That is her job.

    Nothing she said rules out another run.
    She said she had no regrets because she gave it her best shot and feels satisfied about that and furthermore it’s all in the past and she’s not one to dwell in the past.

    We have to try to go out to her, to where she’s coming from when she tells us who she is and how things are for her. She gives us all the clues we need to understand her. But only if we listen, and not try to interpret her according to our own behavior patterns … i.e. ‘she thinks or feels this or that because that’s the way I would feel.’

    I thought she looked wonderful – strong, thoroughly grounded, comfortably confident. And her foreign policy statements and explanations were lucid and stimulating.

  204. wbb-

    “I aint so sure about the guy. He voted for Bambi, and the proximity to power will get to him. I will be shocked if he stands his ground.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ALL the Unions voted for Obama, wbb- The Racial Profiling issue is more than just about Sgt. Crowley. It’s about a standard accredited program that is being taught by Crowley as ‘the expert’ in MA and most likely throughout the US in every PD needing classes in Racial Profiling.

    Sgt Crowley can not let himself be taken in by the SLICKSTER Obama letting bygones be bygones… and having a beer in the WH.

    Obama will reinvent the facts and run with it as the eample of what happens when police are involved with AAs.

    I read Gates is about to do a documentary on the incident between him and Crowley.

    Rest assured, it won’t be as it happened if it isn’t in a court transcript first.

  205. admin Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    NewMexicoFan, re: 8:34 p.m. “Does Admin have a Cop Story?”

    Answer: We have the right to remain silent. Anything we say can and will be used against us. We have the right to consult with an attorney and to have that attorney present during questioning. If we cannot afford an attorney, we will ask that one be appointed for us. We understand these are our rights. We will not be compelled to bear witness against ourselves. We will insist on full due process of law before we are deprived of life, liberty, or property.

    ================

    ROFL !

    I think I”ll print that out and carry it with my auto insurance cards.

  206. I think she was truly hurt by the cheating that went on, you can see it when she said “she gave it all she had”. That kind of pain doesn’t get well overnight, so we will just wait and see.

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    But she’ll be damned if she’ll let the maggot media and dims see her bleeding. She is a true hero in my books.

    Go Hillary!!!

  207. lil ole grape Says:
    July 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Well said, lil ole grape.

    that singular question irks me to no end because there is never and end to it.

    Why do people keep wanting to live in the future when we can barely handle the present, with so much to do and so little time left to do anything about it before it all falls apart?

  208. Mine’s a non-story.

    I came home late at night from a trip, didn’t think to phone the police to take the house off the ‘vacant/watch’ list. They knocked, I offered my ID, they apologized for disturbing me, I thanked them for being so watchful, they declined coffee.

    What’s to take offense? They were SERVING me, forgodsake.

  209. Good One, admin:

    admin Says:
    July 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    NewMexicoFan, re: 8:34 p.m. “Does Admin have a Cop Story?”

    Answer: We have the right to remain silent. Anything we say can and will be used against us. We have the right to consult with an attorney and to have that attorney present during questioning. If we cannot afford an attorney, we will ask that one be appointed for us. We understand these are our rights. We will not be compelled to bear witness against ourselves. We will insist on full due process of law before we are deprived of life, liberty, or property.

  210. JanH:

    But she’ll be damned if she’ll let the maggot media and dims see her bleeding. She is a true hero in my books.

    Go Hillary!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    A-yup! It also helps if we, her own troops, stop asking if she’s gonna run..

    Loose Lips and all that good stuff. Obama’s camp sure can keep secrets; why can’t we?

  211. Mrs. Smith: I hope he is smart enough to realize the wisdom of what you are saying. If he does not then his name will be synonomous with racial profiling, and race baiters like Obama, Gates, Sharpton and Jackson will have the upper hand. Forgive me for being sceptical but I seriously doubt that he and the city of Cambridge have the guts to see this through. But that is the true state of the country today as well. Just look around you. Nobody stands their ground. If you are a bad guy with money you buy the man you injured or you buy the man above him. Take me Lord I am ready. As I say, I hope you are right because there is alot more at stake here than a lousy beer.

  212. I think Crowley ought to decline the invitation saying in essence, “Thanks for the kind invitation but I don’ t have time to make a trip to Washington to drink beer – I have to work.”

  213. again, i will be very surprised if they release the 911 call and recordings of the crowley-gates interaction. the chicago thugs will do everything to close this door.

  214. I guess bambi’s idea of leadership is inviting people for beer and telling them to make nice.

    What an idiot.

  215. I think Crowley ought to decline the invitation saying in essence, “Thanks for the kind invitation but I don’ t have time to make a trip to Washington to drink beer – I have to work.”
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    That would be the right thing to do. But I think he has already accepted, or am I wrong? If I were counselling him, I would advise him to settle for nothing less than an apology from Gates, and a retraction from Obama. I would tell him to batten down the hatches because the Chicago cartel (obama campaign, and big media) will do to him what they did to Joe the Plummer, and to make a verifiable contemporaneous record of everything that happens, and to get his union to create a website for donations to fight the civil case. I would be half tempted to ask him to go to the meeting and make a record of what Obama says. I would tell him to steer clear of the Republicans on this because the issue is far more important to be dismissed as partisan politics. The best scenario is the one we have. He is a democrat who voted for Obama whereas now if he has a brain in his head he sees the man as he is and not as he ought to be.

  216. JanH Says:

    July 26th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
    I guess bambi’s idea of leadership is inviting people for beer and telling them to make nice.

    What an idiot.

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    Kind of diminishes the incident, doesn’t it? It would be very difficult, if not impossible for someone to decline an invitation the WH. BO owes Crowley an apology. Maybe that is the symbolic gesture of the invite?

  217. I wish I was smart enough to start a grass roots campaign to FORCE elected officials to have to have the same health care that Medicare does. If health care reform happens I hope that those pinheads in
    Washington have to be covered under it as well.

  218. I don’t think bambi will apologize to Crowley. I think he’ll try to educate him on not being a racist.

  219. wbb-

    It’s not only the Cambridge Police; it affects the entire system nationwide.

    For one, Crowley’s credibility is shot within his own dept. Second, PD’s exchange accredited programs throughout the country; which means the whole teaching system for racial profiling is at risk.

    I think his and the dept’s attorneys are weighing the Pros-Cons of the situation. I can only hope they will stand fast and pursue it,

    The fact remains, Obama won’t apologize for calling him stupid or acknowledge Gates brought the arrest on himself for disorderly conduct.

    Obama knows eactly what he’s doing. He’ll keep the public focused on this case leaving him free to continue destroying the country.

    New movie out: “INTERNATIONAL”… this movie explains what we are up against with the Banks controlling the globe and ruining our lives. (Clive Owen,plays Interpol agent, Naomi Watts, FBI)

  220. Kind of diminishes the incident, doesn’t it? It would be very difficult, if not impossible for someone to decline an invitation the WH. BO owes Crowley an apology. Maybe that is the symbolic gesture of the invite?
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    Hi Birdgal. You have a good point there. Not an apology by words but an apology by actions. He should invoke Weingarten and bring his most competent union rep. He is walking into a situation where bambi and gates will make nice, doubleteam him and what they report out of this meeting will be self serving along with the mawkish photo ops. Bambi will pretend to be the great mediator, Gates will pretend to advance out understanding of personal interaction in racially charged situtations and all they are trying to do is cover their asses. Watch your step Officer Crowley.

  221. racism 101 by Al Sharpton. Either way you look at this, Crowley’s reputation has been smeared by the President of the United States. And in this case, this potus uses manipulation, bullying, and pitches a very big “throw them under the bus” policy. There is no way his handlers will let bambi take the blame long term, show shame, admit full out that he is responsible for the downturn in race relations today.

    The only redeeming factor for Crowley is that his law enforcement community is backing him 150%.

  222. It’s not only the Cambridge Police; it affects the entire system nationwide.
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    Of course Mrs. Smith. But they are the ones who have the power to say yes or no. What we need here is a good national poll on whether this incident should be swept under the carpet with a phony council, or litigated in a public forum with all material evidence coming into the record. If I were a police officer black or white I would want it that way. Race baiters attack black cops as well–call them uncle Toms. Look at what they did to Clarence Thomas whether you agreee with his judicial philosophy or you dont. The poll should be of law enforcement officers throughout the country, and if it turns out as I suspect it will then that will give spine to Crowley, Cambridge. The truth is Bambi and Crowley are guilty of the very sort of racial stereotyping which they object to when they are the target. They are the worst kind of hypocites. Again, again, again–they will DOUBLE TEAM him so he best not go to the White House for that beer alone, if he goes at all.

  223. Mrs. Smith, obviously I can’t tell you who told me this about Washington. But there were two different people and they worked with him. One of these people is a well-known TV personality. When someone else said she thought Washington was “super hot” this person responded that he was not very fond of white people.

  224. I don’t know all the details, and Crowley may have gone too far in arresting Gates, but Gates was acting like a fool and a buffoon. The last thing that I would do, would yell at police officers. Good way to get my a** thrown in jail. He was a jerk and BO should have answered the question differently.

  225. It’s interesting that Sharpton is backpedaling. On the heels of Gates saying we should all “move on.” Very curious indeed… When has Sharpton ever backpedaled on anything? He still hasn’t acknowledged Brawley was a fraud (as far as I know.)

  226. This came in an e-mail. I haven’t read it yet, but it is long.

    Interview With David Gregory of Meet the Press
    Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Secretary of State

    Washington, DC

    July 26, 2009

    state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/july/126450.htm

  227. DYB Says:

    July 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    It’s interesting that Sharpton is backpedaling. On the heels of Gates saying we should all “move on.” Very curious indeed… When has Sharpton ever backpedaled on anything? He still hasn’t acknowledged Brawley was a fraud (as far as I know
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    Maybe, they have heard the tapes?

  228. JanH Says:

    July 26th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
    It would be very difficult, if not impossible for someone to decline an invitation the WH.
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    as i recall, tiger woods turned-down (snubbed) an invite to join Bill Clinton at shea stadium to commemorate jackie robinson. tiger felt he was being “used” ..

  229. The reason they will double team his is not because they are black and he is white. They will doubleteam him because they are friends, each of them screwed up, and they do not want a complaining witness who could undermine their respective careers. If he goes alone he is making a mistake.

  230. It’s difficult, but not impossible, to turn down an invitation from the President. Wasn’t there a football player recently who refused Obama’s invitation? And got roundly bashed by the blogs for it?

    I hope Crawley at least sets certain terms for the meeting – primarily: no photos.

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