Hillary Clinton And Sarah Palin And The Democratic Civil War, Part I

Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin have their fates entwined.

Many true blue Democrats are despondent over the “marginalization” of Hillary Clinton while many Republicans are despondent over the disasters of Sarah Palin. But the death announcements for Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin are premature.

What is neither premature nor uninteresting is tracking the paths chosen by Hillary and Palin to not only survive, but to overcome and win.

The substantive part of our observations will come in Part II of this discussion. For now let’s look at the very latest public chess moves by both Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Governor Sarah Palin.

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Hillary

As she begins a world wide travel schedule Hillary spoke to the Council on Foreign Relation yesterday. Hillary outlined her agenda:

But the international agenda today is unforgiving: two wars, conflict in the Middle East, ongoing threats of violent extremism and nuclear proliferation, global recession, climate change, hunger and disease, and a widening gap between the rich and the poor. All of these challenges affect America’s security and prosperity, and they all threaten global stability and progress.

But they are not reason to despair about the future. The same forces that compound our problems – economic interdependence, open borders, and the speedy movement of information, capital, goods, services and people – are also part of the solution. And with more states facing common challenges, we have the chance, and a profound responsibility, to exercise American leadership to solve problems in concert with others. That is the heart of America’s mission in the world today.

Hillary talked foreign policy and the implications for domestic policy:

First, though, let me say that while the ideas that shape our foreign policy are critically important, this, for me, is not simply an intellectual exercise. For over 16 years, I’ve had the chance, the privilege, really, to represent our country overseas as First Lady, as a senator, and now as Secretary of State. I’ve seen the bellies of starving children, girls sold into human trafficking, men dying of treatable diseases, women denied the right to own property or vote, and young people without schooling or jobs gripped by a sense of futility about their futures.

I’ve also seen how hope, hard work, and ingenuity can overcome the longest of odds. And for almost 36 years, I have worked as an advocate for children, women and families here at home. I’ve traveled across our country listening to everyday concerns of our citizens. I’ve met parents struggling to keep their jobs, pay their mortgages, cover their children’s college tuitions, and afford healthcare.

And all that I have done and seen has convinced me that our foreign policy must produce results for people – the laid-off auto worker in Detroit whose future will depend on global economic recovery; the farmer or small business owner in the developing world whose lack of opportunity can drive political instability and economic stagnation; the families whose loved ones are risking their lives for our country in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere; children in every land who deserve a brighter future. These are the people – hundreds of millions of them here in America and billions around the world – whose lives and experiences, hopes and dreams, must inform the decisions we take and the actions that follow. And these are the people who inspire me and my colleagues and the work that we try to do every day.

Hillary wants to produce results not just talk. Hillary wants to address heath care, education, housing and jobs – results, not just talk on health care, education, housing, and jobs.

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Palin

The canny former Mayor of San Francisco analyzes Governor Sarah Palin’s resignation move:

The pundits are wrong. Conventional wisdom is wrong. Sarah Palin’s decision to step down as Alaska governor was a brilliant move.

Palin has some of the best political instincts I have ever seen. She became a pop-culture superstar overnight when John McCain made her his veep pick, and she’s still second only to President Obama among politicians the public is interested in. Even in liberal San Francisco, she’d be front-page news if she ever came to town.

But that kind of celebrity comes at a high price. What a lot of people don’t know is that Palin entered Alaska politics as a reformer attacking the corruption of the state’s Republican establishment. As such, she was the darling of the Democrats – until she hooked up with McCain.

After the election, with Palin back home but positioning herself for a 2012 presidential run, it was clear she would catch nothing but ridicule from Alaska’s Democrats. It was not going to be pretty.

If Palin wants to play on the national field, she has to be free to move around. She has to be able to drop into Indiana, Ohio or Tennessee and help Republican candidates raise money. She has to be available for radio and TV.

She has to be like Gavin Newsom, free to roam around the country, safe in the knowledge that things will pretty much take care of themselves back home.

Instead, Palin faced the prospect of being constantly pinned down in a state that is a day and a half away from the rest of America. She would have been totally isolated in every sense of the word.

Now she can study up on issues where she is lacking and become a full-time political celebrity.

The pundits call her a quitter, but let’s be honest – the pundits never liked her to begin with. Better to take one hit for stepping down and move on than to stay in Alaska and die a death by a thousand cuts.

Governor or not, Palin is still the biggest star in the Republican galaxy. After all, who else have they got?

Governor Sarah Palin has also begun, like Hillary, to make her very public chess moves. On Tuesday, Palin staked out a major issue as her turf by writing an Op-ed article in the Washington Post:

There is no shortage of threats to our economy. America’s unemployment rate recently hit its highest mark in more than 25 years and is expected to continue climbing. Worries are widespread that even when the economy finally rebounds, the recovery won’t bring jobs. Our nation’s debt is unsustainable, and the federal government’s reach into the private sector is unprecedented.

Unfortunately, many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges. So, at risk of disappointing the chattering class, let me make clear what is foremost on my mind and where my focus will be:

I am deeply concerned about President Obama’s cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.

While slapping Big Media gossip mongers posing as journalists, Palin takes on legislation which even some very prominent liberals believe should be euthanized. The energy issue is Governor Palin’s chosen entry route to the issues of health care, education, housing, and jobs.

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Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin have made major chess moves this week.

In the background, as Hillary and Sarah play chess for control of their fates, the fire and roar of cannons are heard as Democrats fight a civil war against Dimocrats.

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99 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton And Sarah Palin And The Democratic Civil War, Part I

  1. Yes, it is a chess game, and only experts need apply. Neighborhood Organizers are not EXPERTS. However, the Os Telepromter will be considered.

  2. WASHINGTON (CNN) — The cast on her elbow is finally off, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wasted no time Thursday swinging back at media reports that she is being sidelined by the White House in shaping U.S. foreign policy.

    At a question-and-answer session at the State Department, Clinton drew a laugh with her quip that “I broke my elbow, not my larynx.” She told reporters she is consistently involved both in shaping and implementing policy.

    Clinton is beginning a week-long trip to India and Thailand.

    She broke her elbow last month, requiring several weeks in a cast as well as hours of physical therapy, and forcing her to cancel two international trips and curtail her public schedule.

  3. I LOVE this post, Admin.

    You made my day.

    Now off to cover Irish music festivals and Bluegrass music festivals and local street fairs.

    Poor me. 😀

  4. just thinking how much more Obama needs Hillary than Hillary needs him…if for any reason Hillary were to leave his cabinet, O would immediately lose graviatas and credibility…

    …and if Hillary ever began to criticize him or discuss ‘differences in opinion or process’ from outside his admin her words would carry a lot of weight…the pundits can say what they will, Hillary is the one with the brains and the depth and the substance…all without any teleprompter…all in her head…and her instincts

    …that trio in the WH better mind their manners and show her the respect she deserves and has attained in the world…

  5. S, if Hillary waited until later in his term, when he was truly tanking in the polls, then made some differences known and walked out, she could kill his presidency deader than a duck.

    He knows that. He just doesn’t believe she’d do it. But if he doesn’t mind his manners, I wish she’d call his bluff and do it.

  6. I truly believe that one day soon the newspaper headlines will scream SAVE US HILLARY! because Obama is going to do something really stupid.

  7. Veeeery interesting. POTUS is making private visits to CitiGroup?

    U.S. President Barack Obama visited Citigroup Inc.’s (C) headquarters in New York Thursday, Fox Business Network reported. The presidential limousine was at 399 Park Ave. around 6 p.m. EDT, and the building was on security lockdown, although Fox had no information about what Obama did during his visit. Citigroup is scheduled to report its second-quarter earnings at 8 a.m. EDT Friday.
    http://www.foxbusiness.com

  8. The Michael Crowley article at New Republic is an outlier. I suspect it was written by the White House for him to publish since he is a known bot. I was not aware that they denied her request to hire Sydney Bluementhal. She needed him to fight against the four White House operatives who are undercutting her authority. Did you notice the fact that CNN panned to a rose garden ceremony which the White House scheduled at the same time as her speech. The Crowley article hides the truth of what is going on. The comments I saw were not impressed with his work either. The greatest problem however his Crowleys naivetee in failing to recognize Obama for what his is and the Chicago agenda he is foisting on the country.

  9. I had another discussion with the Iranian doctor. He is very concerned with what is happening in his country, and cited one example of a 19 year old boy who was arrested and tortured to death in prison while the authorities continued to assure his mother that he was okay. He was an Obama supporter, but now the bloom is off the rose. He was an Obama supporter, and felt he was fine to hold his tongue initially. However, he felt that Bambi should have taken a decisive acton a week ago, about when Hillary pushed him to be more aggressive. Today, the Iranian President rebuffed Obamas request to negotiation, reaffirmed his intention to proceed with nuclear weapons, and said they would take action against the west. Now, my friend has become skeptical of Obama. He told me about a cartoon he saw which showed Obama with his shit eating grin and a bouquet of flowers standing on the porch of the house of the Supreme Leader and the Supreme Leader is standing inside the door well with people in the background being tortured and the Supreme Leader telling the naiive Obama, now is not a good time. My friend tells me that the way to bring down the Iranian Government would be to prevail upon India and the Middle Eastern countries who provide Iran with gasoline to stop doing so and the regime would collapse within 30 days. But with Bambi as leader of the Free World who is to do it?

  10. US offer to Iran ‘not indefinite’

    Hillary Clinton reiterated US criticism of Iran’s post-election violence
    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned Iran the US will not extend its offer of engagement indefinitely.

    In a foreign policy speech, Mrs Clinton said Iran must respond to President Barack Obama’s overtures now.

    If not, Iran could face more isolation over its nuclear programme, she added. She said the US was appalled by the way Iran had quelled post-poll protests.

    Mrs Clinton, who visits India later this week, also announced plans to visit Pakistan in the autumn.

    She said America would welcome those who renounced militancy in Afghanistan and that success there required close co-operation from neighbouring Pakistan to defeat the Taliban.

    The BBC’s Kevin Connolly in Washington says there were really no new ideas in the speech.

    ‘No illusions’

    He says there has been speculation in the US capital that Mrs Clinton’s aim in the speech was to reassert her leadership in foreign policy.

    Neither the president nor I have any illusions that direct dialogue with the Islamic Republic will guarantee success

    Hillary Clinton
    It came after a week in which President Obama, Vice-President Biden and a trio of influential special envoys have enjoyed high profiles on the global stage, our correspondent notes.

    He also says Mrs Clinton took a side-swipe at the Bush administration by saying that its policy of shunning Iran had not worked.

    “Neither the president nor I have any illusions that direct dialogue with the Islamic Republic will guarantee success of any kind and the prospects have certainly shifted in the weeks following the election,” she said at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington.

    “But we also understand the importance of offering to engage Iran and giving its leaders a clear choice: whether to join the international community as a responsible member, or to continue down a path to further isolation.”

    She added: “We remain ready to engage with Iran but the time for action is now. The opportunity will not remain open indefinitely.”

    Mrs Clinton said the US had watched last month’s election in Iran with great admiration but was “appalled” by the government’s heavy-handed response to protesters who disputed the result.

    Violent street protests broke out in Iran after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was re-elected in the 12 June election.

    Some 17 people were thought to have died during days of clashes.

    Mr Obama has talked of engagement with Iran but has not made clear how that might take place.

    Shortly after coming to office in January, Mr Obama said: “If countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fists, they will find an extended hand from us.”

    The US fears Iran’s nuclear programme is a cover to build atomic weapons, a charge Iranian officials deny.

    Enriched uranium can be used to make atomic weapons, but can also be used in nuclear power plants.

  11. Here’s what Hillary said when Jill Dougherty asked her that stupid question about being marginalized. That Margaret Carlson article also is filled with questionable assumptions. As someone noted on another blog, Hillary spent the first six months of her Senate tenure working behind the scenes and keeping a low profile. She’s following the same tactic here. That’s how she works. She’s going to be fine.

    MODERATOR: Our first question goes to Jill Dougherty of CNN.

    QUESTION: Thank you very much, Madame Secretary. Over the past few days, Madame Secretary, we’ve been hearing some very strong frustration coming from you about the vetting process. And then also, at the same time, there has been a spate, which I’m sure you’ve seen, of reports about your allegedly being sidelined by the White House.

    And I would ask you, if you could, to set us straight on this. Is the White House actually making it more difficult for you to put the team that you want in place? And then also, how would you describe the impact that you, as the Secretary of State, are having directly on the formation of U.S. foreign policy?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first let me say that I don’t think there’s anyone who’s ever served in government who is not frustrated by the system that our country has. Most governments after they’re elected are up and going in a relatively short period of time. We are now six months into our new Administration, and it’s not only here, but across the government, we don’t have critical positions filled. I think it’s pretty obvious that the process has gotten much more complicated, cumbersome, and lengthy, and that is something that I hear from everyone. And it is a matter that I think we’re going to have to address. And it’s not just this Administration; it’s gotten increasingly more difficult.

    But it’s hard to explain in my position to our foreign counterparts that we don’t yet have positions filled that would be the natural interlocutors for their counterparts in other countries. But that’s something that we’re all frustrated by; it’s not in any way limited to myself or even to the State Department or USAID.

    I don’t really pay a lot of attention to what is said. I really stay focused on the work that I do. I broke my elbow, not my larynx. (Laughter.) I have been consistently involved in the shaping and implementation of our foreign policy. And I’m off to India and Thailand tonight. I will be back to co-lead the Strategic and Economic Dialogue with China. I will be meeting with Prime Minister Maliki as we continue to support the transition of Iraq to a better future, and then I will be off to Africa. So I think that I’m just going to do the work and make the contribution. I feel very honored and positive about my working relationship with the White House and in my personal relationship with President Obama.

  12. My point is, the media has consistently underestimated and belittled her. That’s not going to change. She pays no attention to it, and neither will I.

  13. I LOVED Hillary’s speech on the current state of Foreign Policiy. Her speech was like an oasis in an endless desert of Obama mirages. Every sentence was comprised of ACTION words and not the usual droning of pie in the sky Obama pledges.

    Here is KILLER information that should make the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end.

    OBAMA OUTLAWS PRIVATE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE

    pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

  14. Admin: I agree with your prognosis for Sarah Palin’s career. You are 100% correct, she needed to be FREE… and her current position and location were definitely a hindrance to her future career on the national stage and I wholeheartedly agree, now that I know her resignation was to broaden her horizons.

    I Love that little Willow. She is a miniature SP..

  15. HillaryforTexas Says:

    July 16th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
    S, if Hillary waited until later in his term
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    agree with you HillforTexas…

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    what you say is true Paula…however there are some that shall go unnamed in this White House that I would not trust as far as I could throw them…there are some control freaks and meglomanics that simply cannot be trusted and we have seen in the past that they have no loyalty and will stoop to some real lows…

    I give some credence to Bonnie Erbe’s opinion:

    cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/15/usnews/whispers/main5161888.shtml

    Bonnie says:

    I don’t put it beyond President Obama to have purposely buried Secretary Clinton and denied her visibility. He strikes me as a politician who will say or do anything to get himself elected in the first place and re-elected in the second place. So he cut a deal, quieted down the Clinton contingent, and then went on to consign her to not second- but third-class status in what is normally a high-visibility post. So what else is new?

    Bonnie Erbe US NEWS
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    as for the MSM, we know that Hill and Bill will never get the credit and respect for their accomplishments that they so deserve…

  16. S, I’m just confident Hillary can take care of herself. She’s a tremendous public servant, and will always do what she believes is best for the country. That’s her bottom line.

  17. You have to Love Ted-Bipolar disease and all…
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    Ted Nugent Says Obama Represents ‘Tyranny and Slavery’

    Things are going well for Ted Nugent. He just released a DVD of his 6000th concert, he has a new reality show coming out next month and he has the satisfaction of knowing of being able to say “I told you so” to anyone who’s doubted his political opinions. “Life is wonderful,” he tells Spinner. I’ve done the right things. I’ve never been liberal so I’ve got a nest egg. I’ve always lived within my means.”

    These days, you can see, hear or read Nugent’s thoughts on politics and the country everywhere you go. “If I try to make my voice heard any more than I already have, you would have been Nugified with a giant crowbar skull marking,” he says. “I have pieces in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Detroit news and WacoTrib.com. I’ve been doing speaking engagements at universities and public events for a couple dozen years now. I’ve been an activist forever. I’ve been warning people that this is coming. I wrote the first article identifying the artificial economy of America that is the house of cards we’re seeing fall now. I think I first wrote that in the late ’80s.”

    But just because Uncle Ted is being heard doesn’t mean he’s happy with what he sees. “With a liberal in the White House, it’s sad to see the celebration of mediocrity and slovenliness and the cult of denial expand,” he says. “That’s heartbreaking to see this once-great nation abandon the drive of excellence and the new squawking mantra of whining and excuse-making, which is why we have the president we have, and for him and his administration to defy the Constitution and Fedzilla exploding into the private sector and controlling corporations, it’s shocking.”

    Still, Nugent holds out hope for the country. “I believe that we the people will eventually see the criminality of the Obama administration and eventually stop them one way or another, so I have eternal faith in my fellow man,” he says. “I can’t believe this experiment in self-government is over. I can’t believe the documents our founding fathers clearly articulated and wrote are going to be abandoned for tyranny and slavery, and that’s really what Obama represents. He represents that ‘you people are so stupid and inept, I’ll have to cover you.’ I just don’t believe that’s true.”

    However, Nugent also thinks that plenty of Americans are to blame as well. “There is gluttony and denial in our economy,” he starts, his voice rising throughout. “Basically, it can be most simply understood by the U.S. government and its citizens being credit card pigs. You can’t buy another leather jacket when you’ve already got six. You claim you can’t make ends meet and you owe five grand, much less 250 grand, on your credit card, you chimp!? Of course, I’m the bastard for saying it. People are pigs from the blubber that they have intentionally infested ourselves with and then they have the audacity to squawk for health care but not care about our health? How does that work?! If the producers of ‘Planet of the Apes’ were offered the current American script that was playing out before us, they would turn it down because it’s too stupid. It wouldn’t qualify for a ‘Planet of the Apes’ script!

    “Only the guilty need to feel guilty,” he continues, “but anybody who claims they can’t make ends meet is a liar! Anybody that owes money on their credit card is a pig. If you smoke or drink or have blubber, you get no healthcare until you show me you care about your health. You can’t stab yourself in the eye every morning and then charge me for your eye doctor! What the f—?!”

    Well, there you have it, ladies and gentleman — you’ve been Nugified.

  18. I wonder if the reason Obama made the vetting process very stringent is because he knew people would balk at being vetted and not go for the position in question. Therefore, he could make all his crooked friends czars and basicaly do it without congressional oversight. In doing it this way, it would appear as if he has high morals and only wants highly moral people in his cabinet and some other positions while basically filling those unfillable seats with the Chicago thugs that couldn’t pass a criminal background check???

  19. The Fraud making an “Major Impromptu” speech the same time as Hillary is symptomatic of his Narcissistic disease. She has to get the hell out of there.

    HA she resigned yet!

  20. CNN is reporting about Michelle Obama’s slave grandparents. Apparently her great great grandfather was freed as a teenager after the Civil War.

    I may have this wrong, however, I think the Obama campaign commissioned a genealogical study to find Mechelle’s slave ancestors. Her roots could NOT be traced back to Africa as hoped.

  21. Wbboei, your article about the Chicago Thugs and the White House from early in the morning was very enlighting.

    We always appreciate your analysis. We’re so glad you provide comment on this site and look forward to your posts.

  22. I am beginning to believe Biden is in the “House” for comedy relief!
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    Joe “The Sherrif” Biden: “We Have to Spend Money to Keep from Going Bankrupt”
    —Ace
    Of course.

    – Vice President Joe Biden told people attending an AARP town hall meeting that unless the Democrat-supported health care plan becomes law the nation will go bankrupt and that the only way to avoid that fate is for the government to spend more money.
    “And folks look, AARP knows and the people working here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it. It can’t do it financially.”
    “We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.

    “Well, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, I’m telling you.”

    Joe Biden can see Pluto from his house.

  23. Joe “The Sherrif” Biden: “We Have to Spend Money to Keep from Going Bankrupt”
    —Ace
    Of course.

    – Vice President Joe Biden told people attending an AARP town hall meeting that unless the Democrat-supported health care plan becomes law the nation will go bankrupt and that the only way to avoid that fate is for the government to spend more money.
    “And folks look, AARP knows and the people working here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it. It can’t do it financially.”
    “We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.

    “Well, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, I’m telling you.”

    Joe Biden can see Russia Pluto from his house.

  24. Actually I appreciate all ya’ll who comment here. And Administrater, the first thing probably most of us do when we get to a computer is got straight to Hillary is 44 to see what you have written with your wise analysis. Thanks. We forget to thank you enough although we appreciate you every day.

  25. “I may have this wrong, however, I think the Obama campaign commissioned a genealogical study to find Mechelle’s slave ancestors. Her roots could NOT be traced back to Africa as hoped.”

    SB, Didn’t Obama’s genealogy show that his ancestors were African/Arab slave traders? No slaves in his family. Slave owners on the white side?

  26. “CNN is reporting about Michelle Obama’s slave grandparents.”

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    Hoping for a pity party for Michelle? My great-grandparents suffered through the Potato Famine in Ireland. The British commandeered their livestock, chickens and vegetable gardens and left them to die. When they immigrated to America, they were used as slave labor for the Brits… See- “Gangs of NY”… But they did transcend the hardship and they persevered, educating themselves and rose through the ranks until they reached the pinnacle fair and square.

    The Irish didn’t have the luxury of Affirmative Action programs.

    They did however, produce an several Irish presidents.

  27. Annie, I think the search was on the Robinson family…Michelle Robinson Obama’s black family.

    They are NOT reporting on Barack Obama’s roots and connection to slavery…hum.

  28. Mrs.Smith, You gotta wonder if this is the reparations that will be paid. The FIrst Lady thought she should get paid for her work as First Lady so now they can just pay her for reparations instead.

    I also got a letter from Al Gore today. He was asking for money to fight the Republicans in 2010. He says they are gaining again just like they did when Clinton was in and we need money to fight them. Needless to say, I threw out the letter. They should have thought of this when they selected instead of elected the President. Its too bad for the dims, they could have had a 16 year dynasty, but they got Obabble instead!

  29. “CNN is reporting about Michelle Obama’s slave grandparents.”
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    Nice myth. Lets see now. Slavery ended here in 1865. I think they called it the Emancipation Proclamation and the president was . . . Lincoln. If her grandparents were slaves then they would have to have been born prior to 1865. And she was born in the mid 1960s. I think that is a mathematical impossibility. But when you are a member of the Big Business Government cartel the truth no longer matters. The imporant thing is what Hymie Roth (Myer Lansky) told Michael Correlone (Lucky Luciano) which was that here in Cuba we have everything we want, beaches, sunshine and a government that will play ball with us, etc.–the Chicago Way. (Paraphrase)

  30. Confloyd, didn’t Obama say back during the campaign that he was going to be “in” for 14 years or something like that. Wonder what he knew then that we don’t know or was he just rambling again without his teleprompter to keep him from sounding like an idiot.

  31. I goofed. I should have said Michelle’s great great grandparents as reported. Michelle’s great great grandfather was Jim (I think it was) Robinson. He was the teenager in 1865. There is no more traceable records of her “slave” family…they were supposedly either lost or no record was kept. I believe the study of her roots were commissioned in hopes they could trace them back to Africa. Supposedly it was BO’s campaign who commissioned the study.

    There is no mention of the campaign commissioning a study of Barack Obama’s “slave” roots and it seems with good reason.

  32. Gangs of NY”… I read the book 30 years ago. There as another one about the Chicago Underworld in the mid 19th century called Gem of the Prarie, and San Francisco called Barbrary Coast. Irish gangs in all cases. The Italians came later. A business associate of mine was Italian, and he told me his grandmother was the called the Belle of the Five Points, which the part of Lower Manhattan which was bordered by Mott and Canal Streets. The Old Brewery depicted in the de Capria movie–which he financed personally. Charled Dickens visited the place at the time of the great social reform movement which swept over England epitomized by the Salvation Army and Methodist movement. He was appalled. That was saying something given the fact that he visted Liverpool and conditons there were deplorabe. Which reminds me of the story about a verbal exchange between Gladstone and Disraeli, wherein the holier than though Gladstone told Disraeli he woud either die of hanging or a terrible disease and Disraeli replied that depends on whether I embrace your politics or your mistress.

  33. There is no mention of the campaign commissioning a study of Barack Obama’s “slave” roots and it seems with good reason.
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    They were slave traders, which is a little different.

  34. I am worried about the 33 czars that Obama has! I don’t ever agree much with Glenn Beck but it is definitly worriesome to have that many. WHo is he listening to these czars or their rightfully appointed counterpart??

  35. Hoping for a pity party for Michelle? My great-grandparents suffered through the Potato Famine in Ireland. The British commandeered their livestock, chickens and vegetable gardens and left them to die
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    Then God is not an Englishman. My Iranian friend would agree. They have a long history of playing all ends to the middle. And their treatment of the Irish was deplorable. A terrible beauty is borne.

  36. My Iranian friend tells me that the British were the ones who persuaded the CIA to overthrow the Iranian Goverment in 1953 and install the Shaws father. They told the CIA that the existing government was communist, and that got them the knee jerk reaction they wanted. Then in 1976 the Shaw appeared on Iranian television and said the long term British oil producer contracts would be up for negotiation a few years later and he would demand much higher fees. As the drop dead date approached, the British got ahold of Komeni and the BBC gave him a micorphone to broadcast in Farci into Iran. In other words, the British helped orchestrate the Islamic revolt. In exchange they got a sweetheart deal and got the Americans who were close to the Shaw thrown out. He was pretty despondent today about Obamas failure. He thinks none of the superpowers wants the democartic forces to fail because China wants the oil, Russia wants the nuke program, Britain want the United States out, and Obambi wants whatever GE wants.

  37. I believe there was a complete genealogy of the Obama family on the internet. I guess that would be Communist Daddy Senior’s great granddaddy? I should look it up. My Southern Georgia family almost starved to death for 2 generations after the “War Between The States”; as one of my aunts said (b. 1912) from stories told by their grandparents, their money was worthless and “the damned Yankees” took their property through taxes, etc. They had been merchants rather than plantation owners. They never took help from anyone, succeeding eventually by the sweat of their own brow. And it didn’t matter to Sherman that they didn’t have slaves. They were burned out anyway. Maybe I should sign up for reparations too. LOL! The difference is that their pride didn’t allow them to become professional victims. My aunts were never allowed to date Northerners, however, and I was an adult before I realized that all my life I had carried forth a distrust of Yankees. The effects of an occupation force last a long time. Of course, people like the Obamas believe they are the only ones who were disenfranchised.

  38. confloyd Says:
    July 17th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Mrs.Smith, You gotta wonder if this is the reparations that will be paid. The FIrst Lady thought she should get paid for her work as First Lady so now they can just pay her for reparations instead.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Thats a thumbs down, confloyd. The Reparations Bill was kicked out long ago just as wbb said. It would be nice if MO refunded the grant/scholarship money she received for her Princeton Education though. There’s probably a student out there that would appreciate a full scholarship to Princeton and NOT end up hating America.

  39. “They never took help from anyone, succeeding eventually by the sweat of their own brow. And it didn’t matter to Sherman that they didn’t have slaves. They were burned out anyway. Maybe I should sign up for reparations too. LOL! The difference is that their pride didn’t allow them to become professional victims.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly, AnnieCarmel. Every other race has transcended the slave barrier.

  40. Mrs. Smith, I hadn’t realized that the reparations thing was thrown out, must of happened while i was real busy losing that 30 grand at the bar I bought. I did not have time to keep up with Obama and his minions much then.

    Whats with all those czars??

  41. confloyd:

    ” must of happened while i was real busy losing that 30 grand at the bar I bought”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Wow, confloyd. Who’d a thunk people would relinquish a night out having a few beers with friends in your community. Who has the Bar now? Or is it vacant?

  42. confloyd:

    To clarify, The Conyers Bill for Reparations hasn’t officially been called Dead. Just that it will never pass. Obama’s probably uses that as part of his keeping “HOPE”
    alive with AAs.. It just more of Obama’s mind control gymnastics for keeping people loyal if they think there will be money in it for them doing so.

  43. I should also add the Conyers Bill is calling for a STUDY… only!

    Admin:

    Here is a youtube from Feb 09- Obama in all his pomposity as the Saviour of the US economy.

    youtube.com/watch?v=yJ8ILA8krgE&feature=player_embedded

    Placed in close proximity to the comment made today by Biden.

    “Biden: We must bankrupt the country to avoid bankrupting it.”

    hotair.com/archives/2009/07/16/biden-we-must-bankrupt-the-country-to-avoid-bankrupting-the-country/

  44. Mrs.Smith, Its vacant. My area has been hard hit with the unemployment and people can buy their beer and go home and drink it cheaper than coming to a bar. All the bars are down in this area. THere are many here in this little tourist town. It would of been fun had the economy hadn’t crashed just as I was opening it. Oh well, I always knew I was going to have to work until I drop dead either at work or on the road. Losing the 30 grand just sealed that fate.

  45. Mrs. Smith, maybe you can tell me, should we be worried about the 33 czars or is that just the republicans stirring up fear?? Thats been on Fox news all day. I also heard Glenn Beck had a meltdown on the air and screamed at a caller to get off the phone because she did not agree with Beck’s talking points about UHC. I can’t stand Glenn Beck.

  46. confloyd:

    Hiring 33 czars is more than ridiculous. So, what would be a good enough reason for hiring 33 capos? Diminishing Congressional oversight? No worries about transparency? For doubling as captains between Move-On and ACORN manipulating voters at election time?

    All of the above?

    Or are these czars scheduled for strategic training of other volunteers handling the masses if and when there is a Revolution?

    An excerpt:

    “By some accounts, Obama has nearly three dozen czars in his administration, managing everything from closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility to ending the genocide in Darfur.”

    foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/15/obamas-czars-draw-criticism-sides-political-aisle/

    Sounds to me like he is in the process of building a private army.

  47. Mrs.Smith, Its vacant.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Where you had a license to sell liquor; did you try offering a luncheon menu? If I lived close to you, they could have tried my famous Lazagna sandwiches… I created them accidentally for a bunch of 8yr kids that dropped in unexpectedly for lunch with their Moms.

  48. Mrs.Smith, yes my daughter is a great cook and we had great food at reasonable prices, we had happy hours sometimes all day that also included food specials. My other daughter is a singer and we had Karoake. There are too many bars in this little town and of coarse the economy is way down. When I forfieted my beer license, TABC told about 8 years ago all he bars along that highway were at maximum capacity at all times. They can’t even believe its down this much. Some is the economy and some is also MADD, they are driving the beer joint business out of business. They have lowered the etoh level to .8. Most of the time that two beers, so its hard to be in business legally anymore and not risk the rath of MADD on the owners. I will not go to jail for anything, especially because one of my bartenders served a person that was legally drunk. It was alot of fun and it broke my heart to close it, but I was working a job just to support it and finally I decided I couldn’t keep supportng half of trinity counties drinking habits.

  49. Obama’s speech to NAACP is the most impassioned one I’ve heard since last year. He used it to re-introduce the race card: black kids have it tough.
    Why does he bend over when he speaks?
    When is someone going to represent whites, who have become victims of the Jeremiah Wright mentality?

  50. Herr Obama has alerted his troops to start their part of his campaign to begin the “Blitzkreig” of restitution and retribution.These words that he uttered are the signal that will destroy all stability in this country that has been achieved since MLK entered the scene at Selma.The battle begins now with his most infamous commands to his masses of hoodlums drug dealers rapists that has been well underway since Oval Office was stolen from Hillary and presented to him by the DNC.Let these foul words burn in your memory America”your Destiny is now in your Hands”.THe real Obama has emerged and he must be stopped at all costs.Beginning with IMPEACHMENT

    By ABM90 Blacks and Whites must now unite and save our Democracy.
    President Hillary is our only hope.

  51. Americans are worn-out from listening to his promises, since he never delivered.

    Admin: If you could, please embed.

    youtube.com/watch?v=yJ8ILA8krgE&feature=player_embedded

    there is a noticeable difference in his voice in Feb/09 when this video was made. To his ardent supporters, he was still believable, compared to now.

  52. We need to march on DC next week! We don’t need permits. We go and shut the city down. We need as many people to flood the city. Those who can’t go need to protest in every town across America. Here’s the theme of the protest. We want Obama to resign. Do not make signs about no govt healthcare, cap and trade, etc because its frivilous at this point. We need him out. We need to be angry but no violence. What do you think? Will you help me?

  53. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!
    THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US AND OUR COUNTRY!
    PLEASE LOOK THE FOLLOWING ITEMS UP ON THE INTERNET AND SEE FOR YOURSELF:
    1. Go to Google and type in the search box 1954 Bilderberg attendees

    2. Click on Wikipedia to Delete Bilderberg Attendee List

    3. Read the entire list of names. At the bottom of the list in the right corner click on New World Order.

    4. Click on the link 70 years Chart Illustrates the Dominance by the CFR- Read through the pages

    5. Go to Google and look up Agenda 21-Watch the videos [think about the swine flu in relation to this]

    TELL THIS INFORMATION TO YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS- STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. …Obama has alerted his troops to start their part of his campaign to begin the “Blitzkreig” of restitution and retribution.

    OMG. We saw a hint of it in the swimming club controversy last week in Philadelphia; in coverage, probably from 6abc, I heard the phrase ‘sue for restitution’.

    Most likely related to the effort, but occurring earlier, were the presence of well-dressed and upper class AA’s in the local post office and bank after the GE had passed. This is a small community with many AA’s living nearby, but geographical divide has kept them there. The couple in the in the PO appeared to be recent residents establishing mail connections.The man in the bank, who sported tailored clothes as fine as Obama’s, kept both tellers busy for quite some time, thereby causing a long line to form where usually there is none. The whole thing was a long, uncomfortable silence. I have no idea what was happening.

  55. If I remember my Civil War correctly, the federal government paid a pension to the Union Soldiers, but the Confederate Soldiers were given pensions from the South. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    So based on the rational of the reparations we are talking about, would not we owe something to the descendents of the Civil War, north and south, for their sacrafice? Just a thought.

  56. Today from Krugman:

    Over the past generation — ever since the banking deregulation of the Reagan years — the U.S. economy has been “financialized.” The business of moving money around, of slicing, dicing and repackaging financial claims, has soared in importance compared with the actual production of useful stuff. The sector officially labeled “securities, commodity contracts and investments” has grown especially fast, from only 0.3 percent of G.D.P. in the late 1970s to 1.7 percent of G.D.P. in 2007.

    That is the incomprehensible error of those media mouthpieces touting soaring stocks in financials, or soaring profits of big banks, as any kind of indicator of economic health.

    There was a time in this country when that would have been true. When banks were investing in real businesses that actually DID something, and EMPLOYED people. In days long past, a climbing stock market DID indicate that American businesses (and hence American workers) were doing well.

    That time is no more. Yet so many continue blithely to believe that “what is good for Wall Street is good for the country”, totally ignoring the massive shift in Wall Street – and the fact that Wall Street is no longer as heavily invested in “America” as they once were. They are now merely invested in themselves, trading empty paper “assets” back and forth, and making a killing on every trade, up or down.

  57. HillaryforTexas Says:

    July 16th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
    Veeeery interesting. POTUS is making private visits to CitiGroup?

    U.S. President Barack Obama visited Citigroup Inc.’s (C) headquarters in New York Thursday, Fox Business Network reported. The presidential limousine was at 399 Park Ave. around 6 p.m. EDT, and the building was on security lockdown, although Fox had no information about what Obama did during his visit.
    &&&&&&&

    Like he did with the Saudi king, he bowed, prostrated himself, washed their feet, and thanked them for their donations, and promised to continue delivering them all the “stimulus” and lack of oversight that they’ve requested.

    Given his track record of apologizing, he probably apologized for past government “indescretions” for being too nosy about their business dealings.

    But on the way out, he reminded them that they would not get such coddling from some other president, past or future.

  58. rgb44hrc

    He really postures himself in a weak position. I guess with hope and change cames a new way to present a strong position. I guess we will see how well that turns out soon. The powers of Europe and Asia, though, appear to be operating on the old traditional power position presentation.

    He really reminds me of Jimmy Carter.

  59. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_jGD5nZ6U

    Black Chamber of Commerce head slams Boxer for “Racial” “Condescending” and “God Awful” comments.

    This exchange is priceless

    This coming from a Senator from a bankrupct state blantantly lying about all those green jobs.

    Oh and Heeeeeee’s back (mayb he could slam the Mam again oh i forgot she hates to be called that

    http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/17/harry-alford-revisited/

    Twenty-one minutes long, but worth every second: this Breitbart interview with Harry Alford was done over the phone, so you can safely stick it in the background and listen and not miss anything

  60. Headline at AOL says O says Blacks Must Seize their own Destiny. Does that Mean YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, SO DON’T TURN TO ME.

  61. NewMexicoFan Says:

    July 17th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    President Obama to NAACP: “No Excuses”
    Does that Mean YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, SO DON’T TURN TO ME.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36×8rTb3jI

    Remember this:

    Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!

    blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/president-obama-to-naacp-no-excuses.html

  62. Sorry for the long post.

    Unemployment tops 10 percent in 15 states in June

    By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer Jeannine Aversa, Ap Economics Writer – 49 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – Unemployment topped 10 percent in 15 states and the District of Columbia last month, according to federal data released Friday. The rate in Michigan surpassed 15 percent, the first time any state hit that mark since 1984.

    The Federal Reserve this week projected that the national unemployment rate, currently at a 26-year high of 9.5 percent, will pass 10 percent by the end of the year. Most Fed policymakers said it could take “five or six years” for the economy and the labor market to get back on a path of long-term health. To get there, consumers must return to a regular spending groove and housing prices need to start rising again.

    Home to the nation’s struggling auto makers, Michigan has been clobbered by lost factory jobs. Its jobless rate of 15.2 percent in June was the highest in the country.

    Still, the U.S. Labor Department said it’s the first time in 25 years that any state has suffered an unemployment rate of at least 15 percent. In 1984, it was West Virginia.

    The state unemployment report underscores the damage that the longest recession since World War II has inflicted on companies, workers and communities.

    The other 14 states where unemployment topped 10 percent last month were: Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina and Tennessee.

    In May, the jobless rate topped 10 percent in 13 states and the District of Columbia. Alabama and Georgia joined the list in June.

    The states with the lowest unemployment rates in June were: North Dakota at 4.2 percent, Nebraska at 5 percent and South Dakota at 5.1 percent.

    While Michigan’s rate was the highest in the country in June, the record-high for the state was 16.9 percent in November 1982.

    (This version CORRECTS that Kentucky among states with rate over 10 percent, not Louisiana.)

  63. confloyd, here is a partial list of Obama’s czars:

    Energy czar Carol Browner

    Urban czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.

    Infotech czar Vivek Kundra

    Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois

    Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle

    New TARP czar Herb Allison

    Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney

    Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore

    Terrorism (I thought they didn’t use that word) czar John Brennan

    Regulatory czar Cass Sunstein

    Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske

    Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried.

  64. more Czars:

    1. Herb Allison-TARP Czar
    2. Alan Bersin-Border Czar
    3. Dennis Blair-Intelligence Czar
    4. John Brennan-Terrorism Czar
    5. Carol Browner-Energy Czar
    6. Adolfo Carrion, Jr-Urban Affairs Czar
    7. Ashton Carter-Weapons Czar
    8. Aneesh Chopra-Technology Czar
    9. Jeffrey Crowley-AIDS Czar
    10. Cameron Davis-Great Lakes Czar
    11. Nancy-Ann DeParle-Health Czar
    12. Earl Devaney-Stimulus Accountability Czar
    13. Joshua DuBois-Faith-based Czar
    14. Kenneth Feinberg-Pay Czar
    15. Danny Fried-Guantanamo Closure Czar
    16. J. Scott Gration-Sudan Czar
    17. Richard Holbrooke-Afghanistan Czar
    18. John Holdren-Science Czar
    19. Van Jones Green-Jobs Czar
    20. Gil Kerlikowske-Drug Czar
    21. Vivek Kundra-Information Czar
    22. George Mitchell-Mideast Peace Czar
    23. Ed Montgomery-Car Czar
    24. Dennis Ross-Mideast Policy Czar
    25. Gary Samore-WMD Czar
    26. Todd Stern-Climate Czar
    27. Cass Sunstein-Regulatory Czar
    28. Paul Volcker-Economic Czar

    Now, all of this would be laughable, were it not for the power of these individuals with strong loyalties to the Administration. These people are accountable to no one, able to make policy that affects the lives of ordinary citizens, and collect huge salaries compliments of the taxpayer. On second thought, maybe there should be one more czar–the Gone Too Far Czar.

  65. OKay, it’s obvious he’ll need a Czar Czar, to coordinate all the czars.

    Does each one get a little throne?
    And some peasants to torments?
    And a few wenches thrown in for good measure?

  66. Congresswoman Kaptur of Ohio KICKS ASS AND TAKES NAMES grilling Paulson. Watch the whole thing. She even links it to the “convenient” market crash jsut prior to the election.

    youtube.com/watch?v=ro_PjGqy2_w

  67. money.cnn.com/2009/07/17/news/economy/unemployment_benefits/index.htm?postversion=2009071709
    Last Updated: July 17, 2009: 9:53 AM ET

    Out of work, out of benefits, out of luck
    By August, 65% of all filers for unemployment insurance will have run out of their standard 26 weeks. And that’s just the beginning.
    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — The next bubble in the recession is about to burst.

    More than 650,000 Americans will have used up all of their unemployment benefits by September, in what experts say could be the start of a looming crisis.

    In the early days of the downturn, the government extended unemployment benefits beyond the standard 26 weeks to as many as 79 weeks in hopes of giving the jobless a longer lifeline. Officials predicted the economy worsening and businesses further contracting, resulting in fewer jobs for the newly unemployed to find.

    With the recession now 18 months deep and the national unemployment rate standing at 9.5%, it appears that the effort wasn’t robust enough for those in the crisis’ first wave of layoffs.

    We need to get the issue attention now, because people are running out of benefits and there’s just nothing for them,” said Andrew Stettner, deputy director of the National Employment Law Project, an advocacy group that has calculated the number of people who will exhaust their unemployment benefits.

    In fact, Stettner and the Labor Department are expecting the problem to accelerate. In the next few weeks, the victims of the mass layoffs that happened six months ago — when the pace of layoffs was at its zenith — will start running out of their basic benefits. A total of 4.4 million people are expected to face this fate — or 65% of the entire filing population

    SNIP-
    As a result, by late summer the government may begin reporting significant declines in continuing filers. But it won’t be cause for celebration. Instead of of indicating that the economy is on the rebound, it could mean that more people are falling off the radar.

    “We will see a decline in continuing filers,” said the NELP’s Stettner. “People are falling out of these numbers, and the pace of more recent layoffs replacing them is not as steep.”

    “They’re not included in these unemployment numbers we hear about every week,” said the NELP’s Stettner. “They’re desperate, asking, ‘What’s going to happen to me?'”

    That’s the question facing Jay Ridinger, 54, of Baxter
    And while they may have up to another year of unemployment insurance benefits — thanks to the confusing patchwork of extensions that were enacted last summer — they will be soon be unaccounted for in government unemployment reports.

    The Labor Department doesn’t track anyone who has moved beyond 26 weeks of unemployment in its weekly data on continuing claims (the number of people who request benefits after their first week). And, said Stella Cromartie, spokeswoman for the Bureau of Labor Statistics, said the agency does not currently have plans to begin tracking this population.

    The unemployment rate is going up, and the time spent unemployed is also going up,” Stuart said. “Jobs are disappearing, and we aren’t replacing them.”

  68. huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/obama-and-the-goldman-fia_b_237589.html

    Peter Daou asks “Obama and the Goldman fiasco – Is this America under Democratic leadership?

    Peter Daou provides many links…

  69. Shouldn’t someone can ask the ‘wise Latina’ wemen folk thier opinion on czars.

    I bet there lies ur answer to all the czar commotion.

    lol

  70. The manipulation of the accounting of UI benefits is especially troubling since all of the extensions are paid for by the Feds. In California ALL UI benefits beginning January 2009 were funded by the Feds because CA ran out of UI money. This is declared on EDD.ca.gov.

    One of my friends is on Extension #2. Extension #3 for 13 additional weeks supposedly will kick in when she exhausts that one…then she has another 26 week claim they told her to file…for less weekly benefit amount for the quarters garnered at the end of her employment. She has been out of work for a year and our county is at 16% unemployment (Ag and Retail jobs). Crime is up.

  71. We all know that they are trying to manipulate the figures, so for these survey’s to be showing this poorly NOW is interesting.

    Why are these unemployment numbers so bad. Could it be that there are places that do that reporting that O cannot bully?

    And of course you all are right, what happens to the people that fall off the rolls but do not get hired, they just quit looking or dive under the radar. If the number are this bad without them, what are we really facing.

    Harley Davidson is going to lay off 1,000 workers. They have a glut of cycles in the US, or so I read.

  72. Also where another of my friends works in Arizona, they are going through another round of closings, and they are talking about closing the whole plant. The places hiring are like Verizon, etc, cell phone techno stuff. Some of this has got to be due to people getting laid off, and going to cell because it is cheaper than a land line. We have our whole family under the family plan, as individual cell plans would have been much more expensive.

  73. Has anyone heard Obuma mention or say anything about the masterful job that she is doing as SoS?He is so isanely jealous of her skills and admiration by world leaders.We cannot afford to keep this blundering stranger in office while we ride the sinking ship of state into the deep waters of destruction.

    By ABM90 I hope Telebama allows the MSM to cover her meetings with world leaders.

  74. “Mr Paulson you ought to come to Ohio and see your handiwork”

    “If that’s your best arguement…it’s not good enough.”

    I love Congresswoman Kaptur!

  75. Mrs. Smith Says:

    July 17th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    *************************

    Herb Alpert- Music Czar

    Michael Jackson- Dead pediophile Czar

    Don King – Boxing Czar

    OJ- Ex Football Murderer Czar

    Just a few

  76. The Federal Reserve this week projected that the national unemployment rate, currently at a 26-year high of 9.5 percent, will pass 10 percent by the end of the year. Most Fed policymakers said it could take “five or six years” for the economy and the labor market to get back on a path of long-term health. To get there, consumers must return to a regular spending groove and housing prices need to start rising again.
    ****************************

    Notice they no longer speak to manufacturing or even jobs for that matter, we are to “spend’. Now what the Fu*k they think we have left to spend, well that is a horse of a different color.

  77. HillaryForTexas, on signing statements Obama lied again. We were the first to say that Obama is the Third Bush Term:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124761651200542351.html

    With $108 billion in International Monetary Fund loan guarantees in jeopardy last month, White House economic officials begged, cajoled and cut deals with Democrats to secure passage of legislation boosting the fund’s power. Days later, President Barack Obama announced he wasn’t bound by any of the agreements.

    The ensuing flap over the president’s June 24 signing statement is the latest in a series of clashes between the White House and Congress over an issue Mr. Obama once fought against himself: presidential fiat.

    As a candidate, Mr. Obama pledged that he wouldn’t abuse the presidential signing statement, a declaration issued by the president when he signs a bill to give his interpretation of that law. President George W. Bush used so many signing statements — more than 750 — that the American Bar Association criticized it as an abuse of power.

    After Mr. Obama’s issuance of his second signing statement last month, even some Democrats say he isn’t keeping his word on reining in unilateral presidential actions.

    “Of course there’s a broader issue here,” said House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D., Mass.), referring to the brewing battles with Mr. Obama over presidential prerogative. “It’s outrageous. It’s exactly what the Bush people did.”

  78. marie3548 Says:

    July 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    *********************************

    I would pay have that run on every channel on every news station in this country

  79. “Of course there’s a broader issue here,” said House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D., Mass.), referring to the brewing battles with Mr. Obama over presidential prerogative. “It’s outrageous. It’s exactly what the Bush people did.”

    And that cheap suit never even heard himself or computed the significance of his comment (or should I say admission?). What a sham.
    Yes. Barney. Exactly. Like we said: Bush II.

  80. Things are happening: Fox news has upped their coverage of President Hillay and many other sites have a little more than in the past.I believe that something big is going to take place and the Gulliver in the WH is in deep trouble.I wonder if he will be the guest speaker at the muslim convention taking place.On another note I do not want this creep deciding that at my age giving me medical care is a waste of his operating capital.I would rather have my fate decided by President Hillary.I have an undying faith in her good judgement and her tender loving care for all of God’s creations and I would bow out with a smile on my face.To Obama I say “No WAY Hussein” keep your evil and dirty mitts out of my wonderful 91 years that I have lived in the country I love and fought for.

    By ABM90 wbboei You are inspirational.

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